[11:30] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: aye. 'iwconfig' will get you back the network devices.
[11:30] <ubotu> Sandroad: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:30] <steel_lady> I know that I have to be patient but I ask and nobody pays attention to me for hours!
[11:30] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: then tell me if you see eth1 or wlan0 or whatever.
[11:30] <alexIdoia> eck, sounds good
[11:30] <panfist> gyaresu: i did install them? i followed this guide to the letter except at the "verifying" step my device is "mesa3d"something instead of radeon x1900
[11:30] <jussi01> steel_lady, whats your problem?
[11:30] <gyaresu> steel_lady: Try again.
[11:30] <slippyr4> sandroad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo worked very well for me.
[11:31] <panfist> gyaresu: this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:31] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: are you talking about in the network ...utility? window?
[11:31] <eck> Razoz: i think you will find that gnome uses very little memory, the things that use a lot are compiz/beryl, firefox, and some others like evince
[11:31] <weitz> hello, i tried installing ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop computer earlier and couldn't get the internet working, can anybody help me with this?
[11:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: no. you need to open up a terminal. Lets use the real tools.
[11:31] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: I can't have ubuntu open and be online on this computer at the same time, so I can restart and check something if I have specific instructions for what to do and what to report back
[11:31] <jussi01> weitz, wireless or normal ethernet?
[11:32] <eck> Razoz: if you investigate with a program like top you will see where the memory is really being used, and generally the things integrated with the desktop are pretty memory-concious
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: ethernet
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: i've got earthlink cable, and i connected directly to the cable modem, no router
[11:32] <jussi01> weitz, do you usually need a pssword in windows?
[11:32] <steel_lady> jussi01: I think I have general problem launching apps. For now I can not launch Nedit and Amule anymnore and I think it happened after I gave by accident chmod 777 to the whole home and teturned it generally to 775
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: no
[11:32] <eck> Razoz: also, if you use any gnome applications you will end up loading most of the gnome libraries anyway (same with kde apps)
[11:32] <weitz> jussi01: should just work w/ DHCP
[11:32] <lesshaste> is there some tool to detect which wireless networks will actually let you log in? I was sitting in a train station the other days and there were about half a dozen non-encrypted networks available. If you tried to use any of them they took you to a page to ask you to pay
[11:33] <jussi01> weitz, system -> administration -> network
[11:33] <weitz> jussi01: i'm on my laptop on ubuntu and it's working fine, just DHCP
[11:33] <eck> weitz: you might have to reset the modem
[11:33] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: yes, sorry. first get 'lspci' then 'iwconfig' (note the wireless device name wlan0 or whatever) then 'iwlist wlan0/whatever scan'. See you soon.
[11:33] <eck> weitz: a lot of cable modems don't really do dhcp properly, so resetting them will get it working again
[11:34] <weitz> eck: but i'm online right now, same modem, same ubuntu, just a laptop not desktop
[11:34] <st0n3cutt3r_> is it really supposed to be /whatever scan   ?
[11:34] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: dude...
[11:34] <eck> weitz: ah... try doing dhcp manually with dhclient and see what it gives you
[11:34] <jussi01> steel_lady, Im not too sure on that problem, Im sorry
[11:34] <eck> e.g. dhclient eth0
[11:34] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_:  (note the wireless device name wlan0 or whatever)
[11:34] <eck> (as root of course)
[11:34] <Razoz> eck: okay, thx
[11:35] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: ok, I was just checking (because you said it exactly the same way 3 times)
[11:35] <steel_lady> jussi01, whom can I ask then?
[11:35] <weitz> eck: i have two ethernet interfaces on the desktop, could that cause a problem?
[11:35] <st0n3cutt3r_> thx, brb
[11:35] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: Sorry. Getting sleepy. Good luck. I'll be here.
[11:35] <weitz> eck: ubuntu seems to detect them both, and the hardware appears to work for both
[11:36] <Kuba> hey if my compiling kernel failed how can i remove everything(files etc)what i did?
[11:36] <eck> weitz: i am not really sure, i only have one ethernet interface on my laptop so i have never found out how ubuntu does in that arena
[11:36] <gyaresu> steel_lady: If you've 'chmod 755 -R /home/blah' then that's somewhat mess.
[11:36] <gyaresu> *messy
[11:36] <jussi01> steel_lady, try #ubuntuforums they may not be able to help you, but then again the may. Just remember that is not an official support channel, so they dont *have* to help
[11:36] <Kuba> to start compile again?
[11:36] <eck> i would be sort of surprised if that was the issue though
[11:36] <soundray> Kuba: 'make mrproper'
[11:36] <kenthomson> Hello!
[11:36] <gyaresu> Kuba: if you installed it properly then you can 'apt-get remove' it.
[11:37] <eck> steel_lady: ouch, that is a very bad thing to do
[11:37] <Kuba> in the directory with new kernel?
[11:37] <weitz> eck: alright, i'll have to log off my laptop test the dhclient command, no router
[11:37] <kenthomson> When is feisty launching?
[11:37] <eck> steel_lady: a lot of things should _not_ be world readable, e.g. ssh keys
[11:37] <eilker> i wanna take a video of my 3d desktop. but i dont want its size big, which format to save avi or mpeg ?
[11:37] <gyaresu> Kuba: preface your comments with a nick please.
[11:37] <soundray> Kuba: where you ran the compile
[11:37] <eck> weitz: ok
[11:37] <soundray> commands
[11:37] <khaije> ghatak: i would reccomend (1)using the repo'd nvidia blobs instead of any other ones for simplicity and ease , also (2) purge and reinstall the xserver-xorg-core package , and (3) dist-upgrade if you haven't done that lately
[11:38] <Kuba> /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:38] <weitz> eck: ok, bbiab
[11:38] <kenthomson> !feisty
[11:38] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <alexIdoia> eck: that is strange no ftp capabilities for gedit, this is so strange I thought this was quite an essential feature, how do you guys do to edit html files to/from an external server ?
[11:38] <Kuba> gyaresu:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS> right?
[11:38] <eck> steel_lady: actually, some software will not even work if the configuration files do not have proper permissions
[11:39] <gyaresu> Kuba: what about it?
[11:39] <ghatak> khaije: right, trying that now
[11:39] <kenthomson> I am reading the beryl_wiki page and it has a section on "Show Desktop" plugin, but i can't find it in beryl-settings-manager; Can someone help me locate the Show-Desktop plugin
[11:39] <Kuba> gyaresu:there i have to type apt-get remove?
[11:39] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why on earth are you recompiling the kernel anyway?
[11:39] <agliv> Greetings all :) having problems dual booting WinDOOF + ubuntu.... wanted to use the same /boot partitition for booth, but ubuntu wrote over the windows entries and now I can only start Ubuntu...
[11:39] <kenthomson> gyaresu, Is he not on ISS?
[11:40] <eck> alexIdoia: i think you can open up an ftp session in nautilus and then edit those files with gedit. i personally just edit files locally or over an ssh session (using vim)
[11:40] <Flosoft> hey
[11:40] <gyaresu> kenthomson: the international space station?
[11:40] <khaije> ghatak: sorry my comp is slow and a little overloaded atm
[11:40] <Flosoft> I updated from edgy to feisty this night
[11:40] <steel_lady> jussi01, eck: first I did chmod 777 by accident then I returned to 755 but I don't believe that anybody can help me in general since we can not go file by file. but I did it in home! why is it affecting programs?
[11:40] <Flosoft> but the update failed during the night
[11:40] <sciboy> Hey guys, what download manager would you recommend?
[11:40] <Flosoft> now I can't boot anymore :S
[11:40] <kenthomson> gyaresu, righto! International Space Station ;-)
[11:40] <Kuba> gyaresu:i'd like to try compile kernel again.do i have to remove everything from last compiling?
[11:40] <gyaresu> Kuba: Please pastebin the output of 'dpkg --get-selections |grep image'
[11:41] <alexIdoia> eck: yes that is what I do right no, but vim can't do a lot of things
[11:41] <kenthomson> Flosoft, i was thinking about doing the same things but with different results, how was the experience?
[11:41] <eck> alexIdoia: like?
[11:41] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why on earth are you recompiling the kernel anyway?
[11:41] <eck> it can edit files remotely
[11:41] <gyaresu> Kuba: please read the messages.
[11:41] <kenthomson> gyaresu, are you sure he is not on ISS?
[11:41] <Flosoft> well .. when I boot into rescue mode I get this:
[11:41] <Flosoft> Cannot open root device "UUID=*something*" or unknown-block(0,0)
[11:41] <kenthomson> gyaresu, if he is not reading any of the messages than how do you expect him to read that one?
[11:41] <Flosoft> Please append a correct root= boot option
[11:42] <Flosoft> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:42] <gyaresu> kenthomson: eyeballs bug.
[11:42] <alexIdoia> eck: :) say that I am not sure how to do them, for ex how to encode a file with the proper charset
[11:42] <Flosoft> I really don't know what to do
[11:42] <kenthomson> Flosoft, a forum search might help you get results faster
[11:42] <Flosoft> didn't find anything :S
[11:42] <kenthomson> I am reading the beryl_wiki page and it has a section on "Show Desktop" plugin, but i can't find it in beryl-settings-manager; Can someone help me locate the Show-Desktop plugin
[11:42] <eck> alexIdoia: in vim try ":he charset"
[11:42] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about yourself
[11:43] <kenthomson> Flosoft, try making a detailed post, and great people at the forums will help you
[11:43] <kenthomson> gyaresu, does he understand natural language?
[11:43] <kenthomson> ubotu, what is your name?
[11:43] <gugu^> Please Help, I have instaled Hp laser Jet 1018, and his not printing, i folow instructions form here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220766&highlight=1020
[11:43] <Flosoft> isn't there any quick fix?
[11:43] <eck> alexIdoia: have you tried jedit? I am a sysadmin, so I am a really heavy vim user, but a lot of the programmers at work use that
[11:43] <gyaresu> Kuba: hello?
[11:44] <the_stig> hey im tryin to upgrade to breezy how do i change the repositories
[11:44] <eck> vim and emacs are good editors, but you definitely have to invest a _lot_ of time to use them efficiently
[11:44] <eshaase> i disabled the login manager and when i do a 'startx' i get an error about the gnome settings daemon and something about dbus, any idea whats going on?
[11:44] <alexIdoia> eck: ok I'll try
[11:44] <Kuba> gyaresu:sorry but i don't understand your question-i don't speak english very well
[11:44] <soundray> the_stig: are you on warty?
[11:44] <eck> e.g. for vim i'd say you probably have to know at least 40 or so commands before it really becomes worthwhile to use it
[11:44] <alexIdoia> eck: anyway, I like vim , is there a list of command somewhere so I can learn ?
[11:45] <finalbeta> Flosoft: You will have to boot with a live CD and edit your fstab so it will mount the correct partition. You can replace the UUID with the old style /dev/hd** if you want.
[11:45] <eck> alexIdoia: the built in help is the best documentation
[11:45] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why do you want to recompile you kernel?
[11:45] <eck> alexIdoia: i think it also provides the best tutorial
[11:45] <weitz> eck: back, i tried manually running dhclient, should i paste the output?
[11:45] <Kuba> you mean compile again?
[11:45] <kenthomson> gyaresu, "earth", missing?
[11:45] <eck> weitz: pastebin it
[11:45] <Flosoft> finalbeta: but the partitions should be ok?
[11:45] <weitz> eck: ok
[11:45] <gyaresu> Kuba: Why do you want to recompile you kernel? At all. For what reason? What is the purpose?
[11:46] <alexIdoia> eck:  and what do you think of gvim ?
[11:46] <eck> alexIdoia: you can search for something by trying ":he foo" and then hitting ctrl-d
[11:46] <eck> alexIdoia: gvim is nice, i use it when i edit files locally
[11:46] <Kuba> gyaresu:to make my system safer etc...
[11:46] <soundray> Kuba: run 'make mrproper' in the directory where you ran the compile commands originally. Then you can start over.
[11:46] <gyaresu> Kuba: No.
[11:46] <ardchoille> the_stig: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (CLI) or gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list (GUI)
[11:46] <the_stig> soundray: im on hedgehog or somethin.. crazy names :\.. neway i'm just using the apt-get method seems like its working
[11:46] <soundray> Kuba: your system won't be safer from compiling a kernel
[11:46] <alexIdoia> eck: has gvim the same command than vim ?
[11:46] <barata> hallo all, how can we make kde, gnome & xfce integrate seamlessly in Ubuntu
[11:47] <the_stig> there is no way i can do it straight to 6.10 ay?
[11:47] <alexIdoia> so if I learn vim I would also know gvim ?
[11:47] <finalbeta> Flosoft: it's pointing to the wrong partition, or the partition is corrupted. You can check the partitons from the live cd
[11:47] <barata> you know ... if you use gnome based, then gimp or thunderbird for instance will look funny & ugly in KDE
[11:47] <soundray> the_stig: I think it's a bad idea to upgrade from hoary hedgehog to breezy badger. I recommend you do a fresh install of edgy eft.
[11:47] <finalbeta> it's unlikely it's destroyed.
[11:47] <barata> and vice versa
[11:47] <eck> alexIdoia: gvim is just a pretty gui that allows you to have menus and better themes. the tabbing support is also a little more inuitive
[11:47] <weitz> eck: ok, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8527/
[11:47] <eck> but the commands are the same
[11:48] <alexIdoia> eck: ok cool
[11:48] <alexIdoia> eck: thanks
[11:48] <Kuba> gyaresu? isifference beetween apt-get remove and 'make mrproper?
[11:48] <the_stig> ive got an iso of edgy eft. but no blank cds.. neway i can run it without burning it??
[11:48] <eck> weitz: it looks like it isn't seeing any responses to its dhcp broadcasts
[11:48] <ardchoille> eck: How would one get gvim to work in tty1 if they had a problem with X?
[11:48] <eck> ardchoille: you would just use regular vim
[11:48] <ardchoille> ;)
[11:49] <soundray> the_stig: there is a way to install without a CD, but it's a little more involved. Read the pm from ubotu:
[11:49] <weitz> eck: so what do you think is the problem?
[11:49] <soundray> !install > the_stif
[11:49] <soundray> !install > the_stig
[11:49] <soundray> sorry
[11:49] <gyaresu> Kuba: Can you show me a link to the guide you were following please?
[11:49] <the_stig> :) thnx
[11:49] <finalbeta> Flosoft: using fschk.ext3
[11:49] <ardchoille> eck: So, it's probably a good idea to get used to regular vim now?
[11:49] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: should I e-mail the results or what do you want with/from them?
[11:49] <soundray> the_stig: topgear, eh?
[11:49] <jpjacobs> ardchoille, there is a vim tutorial in the vim package if i'm not mistaken. that'll get you going
[11:50] <gyaresu> !pastebin | st0n3cutt3r
[11:50] <ubotu> st0n3cutt3r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <eck> ardchoille: I always use it if i am working at the console, in X or not; i mostly use gvim for extended editing sessions
[11:50] <jpjacobs> ardchoille, vimtutr it is
[11:50] <Kuba> gyaresu:http://czlug.icis.pcz.pl/materialy/kernel/howto/
[11:50] <jpjacobs> vimtutor*
[11:50] <sciboy> Can anyone recommend a download manager?
[11:50] <eck> weitz: try resetting the modem, and make sure you are using the right interface
[11:50] <ardchoille> jpjacobs: I'm good with vim, I was just trying to see if eck would see the benefit to using regular vim now.
[11:50] <soundray> sciboy: wget
[11:50] <gyaresu> !offtopic | eck: ardchoille
[11:50] <ubotu> eck: ardchoille: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:50] <gyaresu> sciboy: GUI or CLI?
[11:51] <sciboy> GUI
[11:51] <sciboy> Please. =)
[11:51] <dgx> Hi :)
[11:51] <weitz> eck: yeah, the interface is right according to ifconfig output, besides they're both active and enabled, and i already reset the modem before that test
[11:51] <ardchoille> gyaresu: Thanks for that
[11:51] <Kuba> gyaresu:i typed mrproper
[11:51] <gyaresu> sciboy: Then no :) but axel is awesome and could be setup to be used by some programmes.
[11:51] <agliv> can anybody please help me fix my booting routiene so that windows is recognized?
[11:52] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8533/
[11:52] <eck> weitz: you should just get a router :-). you can also do static ip if you have to
[11:52] <ardchoille> gyaresu: Please don't be so quick on the ot trigger :)
[11:52] <eck> weitz: i suspect that if you look at the interface with wireshark or tcpdump you will see that there are no dhcp responses
[11:52] <weitz> eck: but this is quite bizarre, it's working fine on my laptop
[11:53] <gugu^> Please Help, I have instaled Hp laser Jet 1018, and his not printing, i folow instructions form here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220766&highlight=1020
[11:53] <kidbuntu> !nvidia
[11:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:53] <finalbeta> !paste
[11:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:53] <eck> weitz: there isn't a web interface for the modem, is there?
[11:54] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: so you have two wireless devices. wlan0 doesn't find any networks.
[11:54] <eck> if there is you might check if it keeps any logs
[11:54] <kenthomson>  Is there any place on the net/opther package that i can install to get even more beryl-plugins?
[11:54] <weitz> eck: no
[11:54] <finalbeta> aglet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8538/ << that is what needs to be placed inside you /boot/grub/menu.lst , but you still need to specify the correct location.
[11:54] <ardchoille> kenthomson: You might ask in #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: both of those devices appear for my 1 wireless adapter o_O
[11:55] <finalbeta> agliv:  : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8538/ << that is what needs to be placed inside you /boot/grub/menu.lst , but you still need to specify the correct location.
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> I have another adapter that I could have tested, but I didn't think to plug it in (I would have to find it first)
[11:55] <weitz> eck: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-10718.html, this appears to be similar to my issue
[11:55] <ikonia> kenthomson: beryl questions are better in #ubuntu-effect - there is more experienece there
[11:55] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Right. Is it a card that you had unplugged when you ran lspci?
[11:55] <st0n3cutt3r> no
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: is it internal?
[11:56] <weitz> eck: except that guy resolved it by resetting his modem, and has DSL
[11:56] <st0n3cutt3r> no
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: is it external?
[11:56] <kenthomson> ikonia, hi!
[11:56] <st0n3cutt3r> yes
[11:56] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Are we having fun yet?
[11:56] <kenthomson> ardchoille, ikonia i will go there, but i find it sleepy/less-responsive
[11:57] <ikonia> its the most expereinced place for beryl+ubuntu
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: lol
[11:57] <eck> weitz: i strongly suspect it is a problem on the modem's end, if you really want to make sure you would have to run a packet sniffing program
[11:57] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: This is the bit where maybe you provide me with a link to the model page or somesuch...
[11:57] <eck> weitz: dhclient would show some messages if there was anything that even looked like a reply
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> yeah
[11:57] <weitz> eck: alright, any ideas how to resolve this?
[11:57] <st0n3cutt3r> I was just looking
[11:58] <kenthomson> ubotu, foo is bar
[11:58] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >kenthomson
[11:58] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211#
[11:58] <nerdcore> hs anyone tried a live persistant install?
[11:59] <eck> weitz: sorry, i don't have any more ideas
[11:59] <nerdcore> I'm having issues with the persistant part...
[11:59] <ikonia> nerdcore: whats a live persistant install ?
[11:59] <weitz> eck: alright, thanks anyway, i guess i'll have to see if i can figure something out
[11:59] <nerdcore> ikonia: booting from CD or USB with a saved home
[12:00] <ikonia> ahhh I see
[12:00] <nerdcore> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent?action=show&redirect=LiveUsbStick
[12:00] <ikonia> I've personally never appriciated that approach
[12:00] <nerdcore> it's pretty slick..
[12:00] <nerdcore> only good for when you work in an office and get shuffled around
[12:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I don't have to beat you to death with google do I? You have seen the plethora http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=F5D7050+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[12:00] <nerdcore> multiple machines multiple headache
[12:01] <ikonia> I appriciate the need, I just find it too rare a solution
[12:01] <lesshaste> is it possible to make grub come up with a blank screen which only shows the options if you press some key?
[12:01] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: "Disclaimer. I accept no responsibility for anything that goes wrong using this howto. If it breaks your system, I guess you get to keep both halves. If it makes your system urinate on the dog, I guess you get to give the dog a bath"
[12:01] <kenthomson> HELP; i have installed beagled, and it sits in the background using very-high number of CPU cycles, and it paralyzes my PC. can i make it run gentler? I even tried "beagle-shutdwon" but it rudely re-started and again bloated my system. I can't have a fully indexed, but bloated system, please help me make beagle behave a little more politely
[12:02] <gyaresu> kenthomson you need to re-'nice' the process.
[12:02] <finalbeta> kenthomson: it should be using 100% cpu, using 80 would be a waste. But you can renice it if it's priority is to high. yet it shouldn't be.
[12:02] <eck> kenthomson: i have seen it do this before on some malformed files, i don't think there is a fix; top will lower the cpu priority, but ti will still waste cpu time
[12:02] <alexIdoia> eck: in vim to have the color syntax, the command is something link :sync on but I forget it exactly
[12:02] <gyaresu> kenthomson: 'top' then hit the 'r' key to renice it.
[12:03] <eck> kenthomson: using tracker as a replacement is an option (although it is not as tightly integrated atm)
[12:03] <finalbeta> But I would say, don't use beagle compiz and beryl, it's bad for you.
[12:03] <wladik> hi all! when is ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn out?
[12:03] <finalbeta> In 2007 month  04
[12:03] <ardchoille> wladik: April 19th, supposedly
[12:03] <finalbeta> that's why It's called 7.04
[12:03] <Seveas> !feisty| wladik
[12:03] <gyaresu> kenthomson: 19 is a decent value.
[12:03] <ubotu> wladik: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:03] <wladik> will be on cds shipit?
[12:04] <eck> alexIdoia: you need to :set syntax (and in the future, #vim is a more appropriate channel for vim questions)
[12:04] <gyaresu> wladik: no shipit is only 6.06
[12:04] <ardchoille> wladik: Not sure ShipIt will do that, since Dapper will still be supported.
[12:04] <EADG> Evening all.
[12:04] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about greetings
[12:04] <finalbeta> wladik: they seems to ship only long term supported releases, the release 7.10 will probably be one of those.
[12:04] <wladik> i used dapper alot -ist a stable and reliable :-) hope feisty will be too
[12:05] <ardchoille> wladik: Indeed, Dapper is quite nice.
[12:05] <kenthomson> gyaresu, how do i make it work at 19, or whatever that is?
[12:05] <gyaresu> kenthomson: did you run 'top'?
[12:05] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: most instructions I find, so far as I can tell, expect that I have access to the internet with ubuntu otherwise
[12:05] <st0n3cutt3r> 1. First, go into Synaptic Package Manager, and search for "ndiswrapper-utils"
[12:06] <CBunny> Hi! is it possible to install ubuntu using the serial port?
[12:06] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: 'apt-cache showpkg whatever' then see the exact version it would want to install. Get it and then 'sudo dpkg -i whatever'
[12:06] <lesshaste> where is the grub config file? Strangely I can't find it
[12:07] <eck> kenthomson: just to let you know, renicing it will not prevent it from keeping your cpu on and making the fans loud; you should check what files it is getting stuck on, i had problems in the past where i would download video files (on bittorrent) and beagle would try to parse the metadata associated with them and hog the cpu because they were malformed
[12:07] <soundray> CBunny: it may be possible, but I doubt that someone has documented the process
[12:07] <eck> kenthomson: you can do that with lsof
[12:07] <CBunny> soundray, why's that?
[12:07] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: plus its dependencies. If you just run 'sudo apt-cache depends whatever' then that'll tell you.
[12:07] <ardchoille> lesshaste: Do you mean /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:08] <lesshaste> ardchoille: oh !
[12:08] <eck> e.g. lsof | grep beagle
[12:08] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: whatever being wlan0 or wmaster0 again?
[12:08] <soundray> CBunny: serial ports are becoming rare in desktops. Embedded machines tend to use other distributions than ubuntu.
[12:08] <finalbeta> CBunny: because it's not something you want to be doing, check google for "install debian serial cable"
[12:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: no this is to install extra packages that you will need to get the wireless device happy.
[12:09] <finalbeta> debian will likely turn up more results and is similar.
[12:09] <st0n3cutt3r> ok, so what do I fill whatever with?
[12:09] <CBunny> finalbeta, what's wrong with it? i install most my servers using the serial port
[12:09] <lesshaste> ardchoille: thx :)
[12:09] <finalbeta> CBunny: got a guide? :)
[12:09] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: It's been detected but it isn't working. You might want to find a post with that exact problem/solution.
[12:10] <nerdcore> has anyone in here trued a persistant live USB install before, I'm halfway through and I'm getting stuck. (I'm booting live off USB, but persistance doesn't want to work.)
[12:10] <ardchoille> lesshaste: You're welcome :)
[12:10] <nerdcore> I'm getting a pretty clear error though when starting X
[12:10] <Ferret> Surely the serial console instructions are trivially the same as the X-less instructions, asssuming the install CD puts the required one line in menu.lst and one line in inittab?
[12:11] <deadeyes> hi all, I have a problem with snmpd... whenever I start it with the init.d script, it only listens to the loopback interface so I can only connect locally. I looked with ps aux and I saw an argument that tells smpd to only listen to loopback. I looked in the manual how I can change this... I found udp:161 but I cant seem to find where to change this so always as snmpd starts, that it listens to all interfaces:s
[12:11] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: alright, I'll look
[12:11] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Geeze it's messy. I'm not sure you want to do it without having net.
[12:11] <kenthomson> eck, gyaresu i am a bit more of a novice than you assume, i understand completely simple commands, or a GUI, nothing more than that. My problem: beagle makes my computer unusable, please rephrase your solution in a way i can implement it. And another question, is beagle worth the CPU-time, or i am better of with "locate foo"?
[12:12] <nerdcore> all I get is unable to lock ICE authority file: /home/ubuntu/.ICEauthority
[12:12] <ikonia> if beagle is killing your machine - its not worth it
[12:12] <eck> kenthomson: i think the problem that you are having isn't really possible to fix, beagle has a number of problems ineherent to it
[12:12] <eck> kenthomson: i would just use locate, or maybe tracker
[12:12] <kenthomson> eck, thank you that helps!
[12:12] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: did you find instructions?
[12:12] <kenthomson> eck, and you mean to say there is no way i can make it behave nicer, with one-two commands for all-time?
[12:13] <ikonia> depends on the problem
[12:13] <Seveas> ikonia, beagle is never worth it. Dog-slow
[12:13] <gyaresu> kenthomson: I am cli monkey so bash tools are win imho. However if you open another terminal and run 'top' you will then be able to hit the 'r' key and it will ask you what PID you want to renice. Just enter the Process ID of Beagle and then enter '19' as the 'renice' value.
[12:13] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I can load a page on my mac (which I am talking to you from right now) and just leave it up while my pc reboots into windows and use the instructions from here
[12:13] <eilker> can recordmydesktop save in avi format too or just ogg format ?
[12:13] <ikonia> Seveas: I've had it running "acceptable"
[12:13] <eck> kenthomson: you can have the kernel schedule it with lower priority, so that it doesn't slow down other appications
[12:13] <Xif> Hi. I'm trying to install a Lexmark E240 on Edgy. Any help?
[12:13] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: st0n3cutt3r http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=449166
[12:13] <eck> but this is _not_ the same as making it not use as much cpu
[12:13] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: messy.
[12:14] <Seveas> ikonia, killer hardware I assume :)
[12:14] <eck> in particular, it will keep the cpu on, the cpu will not be able to idle, and you will be using more power and the fans will get loud
[12:14] <Xif> Google said I might want to install it via the "generic PCL6" driver. anyone knows how I can do that?
[12:14] <ikonia> Seveas: yes, it has a fair bit of grunt
[12:14] <ikonia> and I agree its rarly worth it unless you have a real need for it
[12:15] <Xif> i.e. where do I find the PCL6 on the Add New Printer wizard driver menu?
[12:15] <gyaresu> Seveas: Yay! Sorry to bother but would you be so kind as to add a factoid for nick prefacing please. It's something I end up typing a lot. !preface or somesuch?
[12:15] <eck> kenthomson: if you think that the amount of time that beagle is spending using the cpu is unreasonable (and i think that it is) dn't use it
[12:15] <ikonia> eck: and there lies the real advice
[12:15] <Seveas> !prfefix
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prfefix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Seveas> !prefix
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prefix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <finalbeta> I don't see why beagle would have to be noticeably slow, it's doing it thing in the background. Taking up to many resources true, but when you search it's lightening fast.
[12:15] <kenthomson> eck, right
[12:15] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I think I can do this, but I would like you to talk me through a few parts before I start, if you don't mind
[12:15] <Alarm> hello
[12:15] <Alarm> is there any danger writing from windows to linux partition while linux kernel is not running ? i searched for some articles but couldnt find something about it
[12:16] <ardchoille> kenthomson: I used beagle for a bit, found it to be too much, so I found the deskbar applet to be much better for me. You might try the deskbar applet and see if that works for you.
[12:16] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Fire away.
[12:16] <kenthomson> Alarm, i do it all the time
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: how can you do that if the kernel is nor runnign ?
[12:16] <kenthomson> ardchoille, i find it too much taxing
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: do you mean from windows ?
[12:16] <Alarm> copy with ext2fs for example
[12:16] <agliv> finalbeta: Thanks for the info... that helps... now I can list my partitions with fdsk -l ?
[12:16] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: you will have to adjust your /usr/src/ to your kernel so, change to yours accordingly
[12:16] <Seveas> !prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:16] <lesshaste> I am using hiddenmenu in grub but I would really like the screen to be completely blank instead of showing the minimal grub message... is this possible?
[12:16] <st0n3cutt3r> ""
[12:16] <Seveas> %login
[12:16] <kenthomson> ardchoille, i might be better of with the deskbar applet, but what does it use to do a 'search'
[12:16] <Seveas> !prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:16] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[12:16] <Alarm> windows->linux
[12:16] <ikonia> Alarm: the danger is the ext2 driver for windows can cause issues, so its up to you if you chose to risk it
[12:16] <Alarm> on another partition
[12:16] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:16] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the prson you're talking too, you have a grater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: typo "person"
[12:17] <ikonia> kenthomson: he's just done that - the answer isn't going to change
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: typo "greater"
[12:17] <ardchoille> kenthomson: I believe it uses gnome-search-tool
[12:17] <kenthomson> Seveas, it should be pErson prson
[12:17] <Seveas> gyaresu, my e is dodgy
[12:17] <Seveas> thanks
[12:17] <nerdcore> alarm .. I missed something but are you trying to read an ext2 drive from win?
[12:17] <gyaresu> Seveas: get a better dealer.
[12:17] <Seveas> !no prefix is <reply> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking too, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[12:17] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:17] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking too, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:17] <Seveas> gyaresu, no, I hammer on the keyboard too much
[12:18] <Seveas> kenthomson, would you mind not being so annoying?
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> hey
[12:18] <Alarm> i see. so there shouldnt be a problem writing on linux partition and booting then to linux . (problems with fsck for example)
[12:18] <kenthomson> Seveas, it is NOT talking "too" but "talking to", a single "o"
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> can anyone help me with setting up dual monitors?
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: if you are interested in a beagle-like tool, look at http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/
[12:18] <gyaresu> Seveas: Old IBM clicky clack for you then. (Thanks muchly for the factoid).
[12:18] <finalbeta> agliv: sudo fdisk -l
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: it is in universe i think
[12:18] <kenthomson> eck, is it effecient, any first hand expreince?
[12:18] <Seveas> gyaresu, I'm on a laptop :)
[12:18] <eck> kenthomson: my experiences with it have been very positive
[12:18] <bodyboarding_bum> anyone know anything about dual monitors?
[12:19] <kenthomson> Seveas, it is NOT "talking too" but "talking to", a single "o"
[12:19] <Ferret> They come in pairs
[12:19] <kenthomson> !twinview bodyboarding_bum
[12:19] <ikonia> bodyboarding_bum: whats the problem
[12:19] <Alarm> nerdcore,  i am asking the risks of writing to a linux partition from windows
[12:19] <kenthomson> !twinview | bodyboarding_bum
[12:19] <ubotu> bodyboarding_bum: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:19] <bodyboarding_bum> i cant get my dual monitors working
[12:19] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:19] <ikonia> bodyboarding_bum: what technique are you using and what graphics card
[12:19] <nerdcore> I would suggest checking out explore2fsPE (or with out PE) for the task at least..
[12:20] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: sry, i didn't make that a real question; what does "you will have to adjust your /usr/src/ to your kernel so, change to yours accordingly" mean?
[12:20] <holle> hi
[12:20] <bodyboarding_bum> im using an ATI X300, and ive tried all the techniques i can find for ati cards, none worked
[12:20] <kenthomson> Alarm, you need a EXT3 driver (fs-driver.org), and it works like a charm, but all your linux partition config files are openly visible in windows so anyone can change them without knowing the root password, if that is what you consider a security risk
[12:20] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: How you going with the reading? The build-essential package has all the fun toys you need to compile things yourself. /usr/src is where the linux headers or kernel source live.
[12:20] <Alarm> okie :) thank you a lot
[12:20] <kenthomson> gyaresu, is linux_headers = kernell source? what is linux-headers.
[12:20] <A[D] minS> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:20] <A[D] minS> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include
[12:20] <A[D] minS> am trying to install vmware so what i should do now?
[12:21] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you just said
[12:21] <ikonia> kenthomson: just be aware that driver is not always stable, it can corrupt your partitions, so be careful when using it (there is a waring on the website saying use at your own risk)
[12:21] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:21] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:21] <agliv> finalbeta: hda 5 is winxp so what gose in the ( , )?
[12:21] <holle> is this the right channel to ask questions, problems about booting feisty fawn?
[12:21] <green> is there a dvd-rw eraseing program for ubuntu?
[12:21] <andrews> I edited my xorg.conf to include a higher rez (that i know this monitor can do) and I changed my resolution on my computer and now im getting wierd lines down the screen - any ideas on how to fix?
[12:21] <st0n3cutt3r> do I need to change /usr/src to something else?  (like /brian/src - brian being my user name)
[12:21] <kenthomson> ikonia, What does ubuntu say in its license? "ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.." Just press ctrl-alt-f1 and see what ubuntu says to you in the face!
[12:22] <CBunny> green, cdrecord
[12:22] <finalbeta> agliv: (0 , 4)
[12:22] <kenthomson> !prefix
[12:22] <ubotu> If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:22] <biotrox> how do i connect to my workplace using vpn?
[12:22] <green> ok ty
[12:22] <agliv> ikonia: you're not the same ikonia that has been helping me out these past days, are you?
[12:22] <green> i'll try that
[12:22] <finalbeta> agliv: sry! it's (hd0,4)
[12:22] <ikonia> kenthomson: yes I know, I'm not talking about ubuntu - I'm talking about the windows file system driver for ext2
[12:22] <kenthomson> agliv, theres only one
[12:22] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You will need the linux-headers-'uname -a' package to compile a new kernel module.
[12:22] <kenthomson> ikonia, ok
[12:22] <ikonia> kenthomson: just didn't want you to ruin your ext2 file systems
[12:22] <ikonia> or think that driver was %100 stable
[12:22] <ikonia> agliv: hello there
[12:23] <phatrabbit> Hi i have a problem with Ubuntu 6.10. When i boot up ubuntu it shows the ubuntu loading screen and then my monitor goes to standby
[12:23] <alexIdoia> eck still there ?
[12:23] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone ?
[12:23] <phatrabbit> it was working fine before
[12:23] <andrews> I edited my xorg.conf to include a higher rez (that i know this monitor can do) and I changed my resolution on my computer and now im getting wierd lines down the screen - any ideas on how to fix?
[12:23] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I understand what you are saying, but your instructions are slightly too short (lacking a how or where or when) for me to be able to use them
[12:23] <alexIdoia> I have open a file via nautilus in ssh, I have the permission to write in it but when using gvim, it does not allow me to write in it
[12:23] <agliv> kenthomson sometimes ikonia sometimes ikonia_ and sometimes both at the same time....
[12:23] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I'm still reading a couple of pages...
[12:23] <alexIdoia> anyidea ?
[12:23] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[12:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:24] <ikonia> agliv: thats when I'm on a clients site and leave my normal nick logged in at home
[12:24] <agliv> ikonia:  we never did finish our conversation
[12:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: I'm just trying to get my head around how you should do this :)
[12:24] <ikonia> no, I had to go to a meeting
[12:24] <kidbuntu> How do you format a USB Flash Disk in Edgy?
[12:24] <agliv> finalbeta: will try... looks right anyhow ;)
[12:24] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone know if this is available anywhere?
[12:24] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: is someone helping you?
[12:25] <foxiness> is there an update how-to to install ror?
[12:25] <ikonia> whats ror ?
[12:25] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: nope i tried restarting xorg but i get this drum noise and my monitor tuirns off
[12:25] <green> ive got k3b installed and it wont erase dvd-rw's?
[12:25] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: ubuntu used to work correctly for you, or did you just install it?
[12:26] <agliv> ikonia: got some spare time on your hands? or ICQ?
[12:26] <bodyboarding_bum> sorry, froze
[12:26] <phatrabbit> i installed it and it was working fine
[12:26] <ikonia> agliv: I can answer quick questions, but I'm doing a few things at the moment
[12:26] <st0n3cutt3r> and now it is not
[12:26] <agliv> green: have you configured k3b properly?
[12:26] <st0n3cutt3r> did you change anything?
[12:26] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[12:26] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: no i have not changed anything its a fresh install and i got all the updates
[12:26] <green> i believe so it writes fine
[12:26] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: what is the command to reconfigure my xorg
[12:26] <Otto-Mate> Looking for VMware Image of V6.10 Desktop - anyone know if this is available anywhere?
[12:27] <ardchoille> phatrabbit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <bodyboarding_bum> green: anyone help with ATI dual monitors?
[12:27] <soundray> !repeat | Otto-Mate
[12:27] <ubotu> Otto-Mate: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:27] <phatrabbit> ardchoille: thanks
[12:27] <agliv> finalbeta: just one last question.... how do I configure grub to automatacly show me the list and wait as apposed for me to having to prevent grub to default?
[12:27] <green> i dont have a ati card
[12:28] <agliv> ikonia: do you have icq?
[12:28] <Otto-Mate> ubotu - ok, thanks
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ikonia> agliv: no, I don't use it
[12:28] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I'm sorry I'm such a noob with ubuntu; what is ndiswrapper?
[12:28] <agliv> ikonia: you probably don't want to give me your email here....
[12:28] <A[D] minS> !kernel-source
[12:28] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[12:28] <st0n3cutt3r> used to install windows drivers, right?
[12:29] <agliv> ikonia: don't like icq or never used it?
[12:29] <ikonia> not used it for ages, I'm sure I have an account somewhere
[12:29] <green> let me see how this is configed
[12:30] <agliv> ikonia: there is also a web-java based implement for people who don't want to install... works, more or less...
[12:30] <alexIdoia> hey I have open a remote dir via ssh in nautilus, but I can't update file, why since all permission are clear
[12:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: ndiswrapper is indeed a 'wrapper' around binary windows drivers.
[12:31] <biotrox> !vpnclient
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vpnclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You have the driver disk for that usb device?
[12:31] <sergo> !vpnn
[12:31] <st0n3cutt3r> yes
[12:31] <lesshaste> how do find the version of an installed package?
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vpnn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <sergo> !vpn
[12:31] <bodyboarding_bum> does anyone in here use an ATI card?
[12:31] <agliv> Say, could anyone inform me how to change Grub so that I don't to preess a key to get the list, it's automatically shown and then waits?
[12:32] <Toma-> sergo: try /msg ubotu help
[12:32] <gyaresu> lesshaste: 'apt-cache showpkg thingy'
[12:32] <green> on tools for k3b all ive got is cd-rw?
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: sorry you don't want grub to display the menu
[12:32] <green>  how do i get dvd-rw erase?
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: not quite sure what your asking
[12:32] <agliv> ikonia: why not
[12:32] <ikonia> agliv: because I'm not clear what your asking
[12:33] <lesshaste> gyaresu: ok thanks.. looks like grub is at version 0.97
[12:33] <agliv> ikonia Step by step
[12:33] <ikonia> agliv: how do you want grub ot behave
[12:33] <gyaresu> agliv: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst read the manual 'man grub'
[12:33] <ikonia> to behave that should read
[12:33] <gyaresu> ikonia: boot order...
[12:33] <bodyboarding_bum> anyone use ATI?
[12:33] <ikonia> gyaresu: he wants to change the boot order ?
[12:34] <agliv> ikonia:  the way it is now: I boot and grub says press a key within x seconds to list... If not -> default
[12:34] <ikonia> agliv: yup - thats fine
[12:34] <soundray> bodyboarding_bum: is this a survey?
[12:34] <ikonia> agliv: so what do you want it to do
[12:35] <phatrabbit> ok reconfiguring xserver seemed to fix ti
[12:35] <agliv> Ikonia: what I want is for me not to have to press a key within x sec, but for gub to ALWAYS show the list and wait for selection
[12:35] <ikonia> agliv: edit the menu.lst and remove the timeout to 0 and make sure the default option is the one you want it to boot
[12:35] <gyaresu> agliv: ikonia You just need to change the file I pointed to ^^ or install the latest kernel. That will do it for you. 'man grub'
[12:36] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: yes, I do have the driver CD
[12:36] <lesshaste> I am using hiddenmenu in grub but I would really like the screen to be completely blank instead of showing the minimal grub message... the idea is that it would boot to the default after 5 seconds, say, unless you press Esc..is this possible?
[12:37] <agliv> by setting timeout to 0 will it autoshow or wait for a key to be pressed
[12:37] <agliv> ?
[12:38] <Valandil> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:38] <agliv> ikonia: gyaresu I guess it really doesn't make a difference... as long as I can boot either windows or ubuntu correctly....
[12:39] <soundray> agliv: I think it will boot into the default entry if you set timeout 0. To get the behaviour you want, comment out the timeout line.
[12:39] <agliv> soundray: greetings
[12:39] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Ok. Well I think all you need is the 4(?) ndiswrapper packages.
[12:39] <soundray> agliv: salve
[12:39] <spotted> Hello
[12:39] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: where can I get them
[12:39] <soundray> !hi
[12:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:39] <spotted> Can anyone pls help me with my ati video card?
[12:39] <agliv> soundray: iknoia still having problems with the geometery stuff
[12:39] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: and do I just... install them (gui) and run the cd?
[12:39] <holle> i am using the newest feisty release. i upgraded from edgyeft. i am using a macbook (serial ata, rootfs = /dev/sda4). with the newest kernel (and udev) i am not able to boot (rootfs) not found. if i am using the edgy kernel (2.6.17) everything ist fine. any suggestions?
[12:40] <spotted> I can't let the latest ati drivers work with an ATI mobile X1600
[12:40] <spotted> I need to use the propertary drivers...
[12:40] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[12:40] <ikonia> !ati >spotted
[12:40] <phatrabbit> is there a keyboard shortcut to open a new terminal
[12:40] <spotted> I have patched the drivers to work with the kernel 2.6.20 and then I have installed them as I read on an howto
[12:40] <spotted> now I still have mesa opengl instead of ATI
[12:40] <spotted> why?
[12:41] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: There's a GUI. Just finding it now.
[12:41] <soundray> phatrabbit: System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts-Run a terminal
[12:41] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: which of those 5 should I download?
[12:41] <phatrabbit> thanks
[12:41] <joanet> ?
[12:41] <ikonia> spotted: are you using feisty ?
[12:41] <tom_> is there any way to change the resolution/font size on the consoles (ctrl-alt-f*)
[12:41] <spotted> ikonia, I'm using edgy at the moment
[12:41] <soundray> agliv: sorry to hear that
[12:41] <loppa> I cant get a DVD to work, it says: org.freedesktop.dbus.error.accessdenied. So it wont even mount it. Any ideas?
[12:41] <ikonia> spotted: why are you using the 2.6.20 kernel ?
[12:41] <spotted> I quit feisty bedcause I couldn't let this work there
[12:41] <agliv> soundray: ikonia: I think we got the Grub issue for box 3 working now... still having mount problems with box 2 that you both were trying so long to fix the other day...
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, just because I have a MacBook Pro and there are a few fixes in this kernel
[12:42] <ikonia> agliv: whats the mount problem ?
[12:42] <ikonia> spotted: so you've built your own kernel
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, but I had the same problem on the older kernel...
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, yes
[12:42] <spotted> ikonia, X starts with fglrx in xorg.conf
[12:42] <ikonia> ok that sounds a good start
[12:42] <spotted> but if I type fglrxinfo I get mesa opengl...
[12:43] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: all but the ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 (I think)
[12:43] <spotted> instead of using sudo module-assistant prepare
[12:43] <spotted> I have built the kernel with make-kpkg module_image
[12:43] <spotted> built the drivers*
[12:43] <agliv> soundray: ikonia geometry (hd0) listed /root as sda7 and geometry (hd1) listed nothing but when booting it says sda7 worng something or another...
[12:43] <spotted> next I ran dpkg -i driverfilename.deb
[12:43] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: install the common then the source then utils-1.1 then utils
[12:44] <agliv> soundray: ikonia: but let me get box 3 fixed before we go back to box 2....
[12:44] <ikonia> agliv: I'm not sure I'm clear about what your saying
[12:44] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: 'copy them onto laptop then 'sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb'
[12:44] <st0n3cutt3r> ok (1,2,4,3?)
[12:44] <[WaZ] > Hi everyone, anyone know of a way to install IE7?
[12:44] <agliv> ikonia: don't you remember trying to fix it via ssh?
[12:44] <yomm> How can I see all users on my ubuntu box ?
[12:44] <Ferret> yomm: Total, or logged in?
[12:44] <ikonia> yes, I remember that, you are still having problems ?
[12:44] <yomm> Ferret : total :)
[12:45] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: and if you want a gui for installing ndiswrapper then there's http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/net/ndisgtk but you'll need it's dependencies as well.
[12:45] <Ferret> yomm: cut -f1 -d: /etc/passwd
[12:45] <agliv> ikonia: then you had to leave for a meeting, thought it shold work but it didn't....
[12:45] <st0n3cutt3r> which do you think will be easier?
[12:45] <yomm> Ferret : thx
[12:45] <ikonia> agliv: whats the error you get
[12:46] <agliv> ikonia: could I please clairify two other issues before moving on to box2 problems?
[12:46] <ikonia> certainly
[12:46] <ikonia> shout when you're ready
[12:46] <ikonia> I will probably around
[12:46] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: just the ndiswrapper should be fine
[12:46] <agliv> soundray: any idea why it's still not working?
[12:47] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: the gui or the alternative method (with 4 packages)
[12:47] <st0n3cutt3r> ?
[12:47] <soundray> agliv: I'm confused -- box 2? box 3? mount? grub?
[12:47] <agliv> ikonia: can I give you my ICQ or email and you contact me if have to leave on short notice
[12:47] <ikonia> please do
[12:47] <ikonia> stick iti n a pm
[12:48] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: the first packages are all necessary. The ndisgtk is just a pretty clicky thing that you don't need.
[12:48] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: ok, so what should I do?
[12:48] <[WaZ] > Anyone, whats the syntax for installing a package with the --force-overwrite flag?
[12:48] <A[D] minS> setting
[12:49] <agliv> soundray: it is confusing... I am parrallely working on three seperat box installations: box 1 Windows XP, box 2 Ubuntu 6.06 x64. box 3, Windows XP + Ubuntu 6.06
[12:49] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: the links to the packages. You need to download them click on the 'Download' and chose which part of the world you are in.
[12:49] <st0n3cutt3r> alright
[12:49] <alexIdoia> :q
[12:49] <st0n3cutt3r> after that
[12:50] <agliv> soundray: all three have seperate problems, and you were trying to help me with box 2: Ubuntu 6.06 x64... ring a bell?
[12:50] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: (what do I do with them once I have them on my usb drive in ubuntu)
[12:50] <phatrabbit> damm whenever i update my nvidia drivers and restart xserver my monitor turns off
[12:50] <agliv> ikonia: how do I send you a pm via irc?
[12:50] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: cp them all to a usb drive or cd or something and put them on the linux machine. From there you will need to install them. 'sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb'
[12:51] <st0n3cutt3r> ok
[12:51] <spotted> Hello
[12:51] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: anything else after that?
[12:51] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: probably even 'dpkg -i *.deb' from the folder they'll be in.
[12:51] <ardchoille> agliv: You need to identify to nickserv first.
[12:51] <spotted> I have followed the guide that ikonia linked to me but I can't do it work yet
[12:51] <agliv> archoille: and how?
[12:52] <spotted> I have created the symbolic link as stated in the guide...
[12:52] <soundray> agliv: yes, I do, but I'm trying to understand what you want help with now.
[12:52] <spotted> unfortunately I still have OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:52] <ardchoille> agliv: is your nick registered?
[12:52] <spotted> and Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:52] <spotted> ikonia, help me pls :(
[12:52] <spotted> !ati > spotted
[12:53] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Well if all goes well, this should work. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210035
[12:54] <ardchoille> !register | agliv
[12:54] <yomm> the commmand useradd somename -s /bin/false doesn't do the trick , how does it work on Ubuntu ?
[12:54] <ubotu> agliv: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:54] <Apaksi> what would be the best way to install Ubuntu on a computer whose CD-drive is so bad that the live-cd session crashes? for example, does it simply work if I use Debian's netinstaller-cd and only change sources.list?
[12:55] <agliv> soundray, now I am working on box 3... and once that's finished and working then box 2...
[12:55] <soundray> yomm: what are you trying to do?
[12:55] <agliv> soundray: 3 box windows + ubuntu, grub doesn't windows... problem
[12:55] <flsp> hi folks. I have 2 NTFS partitions in my HD, but ubuntu (LIVE CD) does not create /dev/hda* on boot. It only creates /dev/hda. What can I do?
[12:55] <agliv> ubutu: regestering...
[12:56] <yomm> soundray i: installing clamav , and it needs a user  without /bin
[12:56] <spotted> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[12:56] <soundray> Apaksi: there are ways to install without a CD. Check the links page the ubotu will send to you, and take particular note when you find something about debootstrap
[12:56] <gyaresu> Apaksi: you could try the 'alternative' iso for install or PXE.
[12:56] <soundray> !install > Apaksi
[12:56] <yomm> soundray : i suppose for security reasons
[12:57] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell me about install
[12:57] <soundray> yomm: run 'adduser username' and edit /etc/passwd to replace that user's /bin/bash with /bin/false
[12:57] <Apaksi> soundray: ok, thanks :)
[12:57] <jin> now virus scanner is also needed for ubuntu?
[12:57] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I will install those 4 and then how do I go from there to the instructions?
[12:57] <yomm> soundray great thx :)
[12:57] <h1st0> jin: no need for virus scanner
[12:57] <spotted> can anyone pls pls pls help me?
[12:57] <spotted> :((
[12:57] <ardchoille> jin: No
[12:57] <soundray> jin: only if you route mail for Windows users
[12:57] <h1st0> !virus | jin
[12:57] <ubotu> jin: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:58] <h1st0> spotted: what are you trying to get working and are you using Fiesty?
[12:58] <h1st0> spotted: like are you installing beryl/compiz?  and what video card do you have?
[12:59] <flo> i'vd installed amarok and kdevelop under a gnome envirment but now i have a /home/-/.kde/share/config empty folder how can i remadiate?
[12:59] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: do you have any ideas. everytime i update my xconf to the new nvidia drivers my monitor goes to standby. so i think the drivers are not compatible
[12:59] <erUSUL> spotted: do you have a 'Load "dri"' and Section "DRI"\n Mode 666\n EndSection  in your xorg.conf ??
[12:59] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: Your going to love this... Did you _read_ the page at !wifi ?
[12:59] <h1st0> flo: if you no longer have the programs installed you can just delet the .kde folders.
[01:00] <gyaresu> !wifi | st0n3cutt3r
[01:00] <ubotu> st0n3cutt3r: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:00] <phatrabbit> but they are the latest nvidia drivers and i have an nvidia card so im not sure what i am spose to do
[01:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_(Ralink_rt73_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:00] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[01:00] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[01:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:00] <phatrabbit> !xserver
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I know that when I triple-booted my computer I had the same problem
[01:00] <yomm> soundray : it's strange , according to the useradd --help "-s /bin/false" should be a valid string ....
[01:00] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: no i am only using XP and ubuntu
[01:00] <yomm> well .. it works so :)
[01:00] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I think that my computer did not like 64bit ubuntu at all
[01:01] <agliv> !register | aglIV
[01:01] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I think the principal still applies
[01:01] <soundray> yomm: what's wrong with my suggestion?
[01:01] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: how do i check if my ubuntu is 64 or 32
[01:01] <phatrabbit> im pretty sure its 32
[01:01] <flsp> hi folks. I have 2 NTFS partitions in my HD, but ubuntu (LIVE CD) does not create /dev/hda* on boot. It only creates /dev/hda. What can I do?
[01:02] <flo> h1st0: i have the progs installed and i want to run them but i get somme not writble files error in .kde/config(folder that is empty) on another pc this folder has a bunch of filles
[01:02] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: depending on your chipset... Looks like yours is the ZyDas zd1211b driver
[01:02] <soundray> yomm: you can even do 'adduser --shell /bin/false username'
[01:02] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: do you have your ubuntu install CD?
[01:03] <phatrabbit> yer i do
[01:03] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: have you tried booting from that?
[01:03] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: well i can just reconfigure my xserver and it fixes it
[01:03] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You can forget about the ndiswrapper. (Are you seeing my messages?)
[01:03] <soundray> flsp: check if ubotu recognizes the partitions with 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and tell me (just yes or no)
[01:03] <phatrabbit> st0n3cutt3r: its just i am puzzled becos i am updating my nvidia drivers and they dont work so what else am i spose to do :(
[01:04] <kraut> moin
[01:04] <soundray> flsp: sorry, that must be 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[01:04] <h1st0> flo: perhaps reinstall the programs?  Basically files in your ~ with . are hidden files ususually per user settings of the program.
[01:04] <whacko> hi guyz, do any1 know how to add/remove an entry to the right click menu of a file/folder ?
[01:04] <phatrabbit> !xconf
[01:04] <soundray> kraut: not those Germans again ;)
[01:04] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: yes I am, I am just extremely confused by them because you keep telling me different instructions to follow and i have no idea what to read or what to do with anything you are telling me.  sorry about not responding
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <Askar> I think i should keep ubuntu on my laptop...
[01:05] <phatrabbit> !x.conf
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <flsp> soundray, Yes.
[01:05] <soundray> !xorg > phatrabbit
[01:05] <phatrabbit> ta
[01:05] <ardchoille> whacko: In gnome? Not really any way to do that. Some apps, like nautilus-open-terminal, will add an anetry, but I don't think you can add/remove any entry you want.
[01:05] <techie> good morning all. There are certain programs I want to use from xp but I need to install certain plugins to make them work in Ubuntu. Anybody knows what that means? Basically I am looking for a way to execute "Wenlin" (a chinese learning program) I used to use in windows now in Ubuntu!
[01:05] <phatrabbit> !xorg
[01:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:06] <whacko> ardchoille, r u sure?
[01:06] <st0n3cutt3r> phatrabbit: I'm sorry, I'm a noob with linux, I just know that I was having a very similar problem and thought I might offer up my solution
[01:06] <soundray> flsp: then try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt' (or replace hda1 appropriately). It will mount read-only.
[01:06] <agliv> ardchoille: now I'm registered... how do I send a pm?
[01:06] <ardchoille> whacko: I have been searching for a way to do that for over a year and haven't found anything.
[01:06] <soundray> !goobotuse > phatrabbit, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:06] <soundray> !goodbotuse > phatrabbit, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:06] <soundray> dang
[01:06] <ardchoille> agliv: You type:  /query nick   and then pm with that person
[01:06] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_(ZyDas_zd1211b_driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29  These are the instructions for you.
[01:07] <whacko> ardchoille, cant we just modify the code of nautilus-open-terminal? is it so big and complex?
[01:07] <techie> Does anybody knows a good program in Ubuntu for learning chinese?
[01:07] <ardchoille> whacko: No idea.
[01:07] <agliv> ardchoille: thanks for the assistance :)
[01:07] <ardchoille> agliv: You're welcome :)
[01:07] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: I tried those, but I can't do the sudo apt-get update because I am not connected to the internet
[01:07] <whacko> ardchoille, i havent tried nautilus-open-terminal? it ll add an entry is it?
[01:07] <Askar> whacko: ardchoille:  nautilus-actions?
[01:08] <agliv> ikonia: still there?
[01:08] <ardchoille> Askar: Never played with it
[01:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: You will need three packages: You can download form packages.ubuntu.com the exact links are...
[01:08] <ardchoille> Askar: I take that back, I remember playing with it, realising it was crap and uninstalled it.
[01:08] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: build-essential http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fb%2Fbuild-essential%2Fbuild-essential_11.3_i386.deb&md5sum=9555bbff826c8f059d00a824d6285275&arch=i386&type=main
[01:08] <flsp> soundray, thats is the problem: mount responds: "the special device /dev/hda1 does not exist" - but hda1 is listed by fdisk
[01:09] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r: What kernel version are you running? Find out by 'uname -a'
[01:09] <whacko> Askar, have u used it to add an entry?
[01:09] <soundray> flsp: could you pastebin your dmesg output pls (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[01:09] <agliv> ardchoille: is a pm just a message or a seperat chat room... i.e. can I just type away and the user will recieve or does the user have to join the "room" inorder to se what I have to say?
[01:09] <st0n3cutt3r> gyaresu: ok, brb
[01:10] <agliv> soundray: still there?
[01:10] <soundray> yes
[01:10] <elkbuntu> spotted, you left while we were trying to get info from you. what is your video card?
[01:10] <ardchoille> agliv: a pm is like a private channel with you and the recipient. When you type and hit ENTER, they will see it provided you are registered and identified.
[01:10] <Matic`Makovec> Which MSN client would you recommend?
[01:11] <agliv> sounds good :) thankx again :)
[01:11] <flsp> soundray, No. the computer under test does not recognizes eth0 either...
[01:11] <Joeeigel> hi
[01:12] <spotted> elkbuntu, I solved it. :P
[01:12] <soundray> flsp: is the disk in question IDE or SATA?
[01:12] <elkbuntu> spotted, yay!
[01:12] <spotted> I did everythin' but disabling compiz in the file xorg.conf
[01:12] <agliv> ardchoille: freenode is saying that I'm not regestired eventhough I followed all the steps...
[01:12] <flsp> soundray, IDE - its a notebook.
[01:12] <Joeeigel> I need a hand installing "Tracert" and getting my internet to work...
[01:12] <ardchoille> agliv: /msg nickserv help register
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, you only needed to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and disable the DRI module ;)  out of curiosity, ATI?
[01:13] <spotted> elkbuntu, yes
[01:13] <jin> !p2p
[01:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[01:13] <soundray> flsp: has anyone else had that kind of trouble with your model? Search tuxmobil.org
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, and it was using the vesa driver?
[01:13] <spotted> Now I can install XGL and beryl
[01:13] <spotted> elkbuntu, yes
[01:13] <elkbuntu> spotted, you wont get beryl/compiz on the vesa :-/
[01:13] <soundray> Joeeigel: use tracepath - it is there by default
[01:13] <jin> spotted, why do you want it?
[01:14] <Joeeigel> Ok, but i also need help getting my internet to work on my ubuntu partition
[01:14] <spotted> elkbuntu, I have the fglrx driver running now, not vesa. :)
[01:14] <happer> hi
[01:14] <agliv> soundray:  got you now.... so by inserting the correct infor for the windows partition and commenting out the timeout, the problem should be fixed?
[01:14] <elkbuntu> spotted, brilliant :)
[01:14] <spotted> jin, cos I like beryl effects?
[01:14] <soundray> !elaborate | Joeeigel
[01:14] <ubotu> Joeeigel: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[01:15] <Joeeigel> Well... the internet just dosn't load on it
[01:15] <Joeeigel> It can ping sites fine
[01:15] <Joeeigel> but they dont load
[01:15] <Joeeigel> saim with the messenger
[01:15] <soundray> agliv: the commenting-out will just disable automatic booting
[01:15] <soundray> !enter | Joeeigel
[01:15] <ubotu> Joeeigel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:16] <agliv> soundray: will it show the list or not?
[01:16] <soundray> agliv: yes
[01:16] <flsp> soundray, I will serach... but I have another question: is there some linux application to recover windows MBR?
[01:16] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: can you open a terminal up and type some commands in please?
[01:16] <agliv> good, then let me save and reboot.... hopefully I'll be back shortly ;)
[01:16] <soundray> flsp: I don't think so, but you can probably do it with Freedos
[01:16] <agliv> soundray: wish me luck
[01:16] <Joeeigel> Im on a windows PC atm as my linux partiton dosnt work with the internet..
[01:17] <Joeeigel> if you want me to type commands, i would have to reset
[01:17] <gyaresu> Do you have a second computer that you can use here while you work on the Linux machine? It'll be hard to help ypu otherwies.
[01:18] <soundray> Joeeigel: have you tried pinging sites by IP address, or by name also?
[01:18] <Joeeigel> I have a PSP which i could use for email
[01:18] <Joeeigel> Souind, ive pinged google.com, which gave me an average of 102ms
[01:19] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: And you try looking at sites with which web browser?
[01:19] <Joeeigel> the firefox one, i cant get any others as i need an internet connection, which dosnt work.
[01:19] <soundray> Joeeigel: I suggest you try again and open a site in a web browser. If you get a response after 2 minutes of waiting, it's your DNS setup at fault
[01:20] <gyaresu> soundray: if he can ping google however...
[01:20] <flsp> soundray, problem: this notebook does not have floppy unit. I can only boot from CD.
[01:20] <soundray> gyaresu: ...the google IP may have been cached
[01:20] <kane77> i have a problem with disapearing dns... I'm on dapper.
[01:21] <rjalex01> hello anyone with experience on IBM Thinkpads and Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:21] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: Just try again and then report back can you? It's a strange problem that _shouldn't_ be happening. Try a few websites.
[01:21] <soundray> rjalex01: is that a survey?
[01:21] <gyaresu> !question | rjalex01
[01:21] <ubotu> rjalex01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <gyaresu> kane77: you know about /etc/resolv.conf ?
  Read PM
[01:22] <soundray> flsp: you can get a boot CD with Freedos somewhere
[01:23] <kane77> gyaresu, yes I know of it, but mine said that it is generated and shouldn't be manualy edited...
[01:23] <gyaresu> Joeeigel: Not me, I'm sleeping soon.
[01:23] <st0n3cutt3r_> well.. that took long enough to reconnect :/
[01:23] <Joeeigel> ok =/
[01:23] <Joeeigel> i also tried www.donteatcake.co.uk
[01:23] <rjalex01> thank you and sorry .. newbie ... I am wonderig why the installation of the tpb package which on Debian I use to control the Thinkpad buttons, causes the removal of the packages ubuntu-desktop and hotkey setup (IBM T42 and new inst of 6.10)
[01:23] <gyaresu> kane77: Do you have two network devices going (wifi & eth) bye any chance?
[01:24] <soundray> kane77: you can safely edit it to diagnose the problem. It just means that your changes may be overwritten.
[01:24] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: welcome back.
[01:24] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: thanks.  it said i686
[01:24] <kane77> gyaresu, yes I have and I use both (i use wifi for internet connection and eth0 for sharing internet connection)
[01:24] <soundray> rjalex01: because the package conflicts with something that ubuntu-desktop depends on
[01:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> I am sure I copied the output txt to the usb drive, but it's not showing up for some reason
[01:25] <rjalex01> I want to be able to turn my wifi radio on and off by pressing Fn-F5 like I did under Debian and do under Windows
[01:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: ulp! um. 'uname -a' should give you something like: Linux sdf 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:25] <soundray> rjalex01: either use hotkey setup instead, or let it remove ubuntu-desktop -- it is just a metapackage (read pm from ubotu)
[01:25] <kane77> gyaresu, I know I can edit it but when I setup the dns they work, only after reset/poweroff they disapear...
[01:25] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: the bit you need is actually the 'uname -r' bit 2.6.17-11-generic in my case.
[01:25] <soundray> !metapackage > rjalex01
[01:25] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: oh
[01:26] <flsp> soundray, probably is the only solution. Thanx!
[01:26] <soundray> flsp: which version of ubuntu live were you trying?
[01:26] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: -_-' I am about to pass out at this point; rebooting takes too long.  will you be on tonight?
[01:26] <rjalex01> thanks soundray ... I am new to ubuntu but not new to Debian hance I understand what a metapackage is.
[01:27] <flsp> soundray, Dapper 6.06 - but i've tried other distros - exact the same problem
[01:27] <soundray> flsp: is it a fairly new laptop?
[01:28] <rjalex01> is the generic kernel better be replaced for my Dothan 1.8 GHz pentium M processor ?
[01:28] <gyaresu> kane77: st0n3cutt3r_ sorry got to sleep soon. If you can take the machine to a LAN then things would be easier.
[01:28] <soundray> rjalex01: no
[01:28] <soundray> !generic > rjalex01
[01:28] <rjalex01> thanks soundray
[01:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: I'll see what I can do about it
[01:28] <kane77> gyaresu, ok, good night then
[01:28] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: will you be on later to help?
[01:28] <flsp> soundray, yes, about 1year
[01:28] <gyaresu> kane77: resolv.conf is overwriten by dhclient so if you change your network settings to static rather than dhcp you could keep them.
[01:28] <daedra> anyone recommend a good commandline music player?
[01:29] <soundray> flsp: did you find any installation reports on tuxmobil or elsewhere?
[01:29] <daedra> !music
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <soundray> daedra: ogg123, mpg321
[01:29] <kane77> gyaresu, that was exactly it, I dont use dhcp... (neither my isp)
[01:29] <daedra> soundray: ncurses plzzz
[01:29] <gyaresu> st0n3cutt3r_: I'll be around but if you show someone the link to the page you'll get help.
[01:29] <st0n3cutt3r_> gyaresu: ok, thanks
[01:30] <soundray> daedra: 'apt-cache search ncurses music' or similar
[01:30] <gyaresu> kane77: are both your network cards set statically?
[01:30] <kane77> gyaresu, yes
[01:30] <Zaggynl> Has anyone gotten Dungeondigger to work?  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2245353
[01:30] <Zaggynl> (Open Source Dungeon Keeper remake)
[01:31] <gyaresu> kane77: but you say your resolv.conf is being overwritten?
[01:31] <kane77> gyaresu, yes
[01:31] <vleon> hi if i hava a module for a devise "blabla.ko" how do i load it, or check if it is loaded?
[01:31] <burepe> Is there something that I can put in my tool bar to tell me how much disk space I have left?
[01:31] <phatrabbit> can somone tell me where all updates and apt-gets are saved to, as in the full path ?
[01:31] <kane77> gyaresu, that's why I think its strange....
[01:31] <erUSUL> phatrabbit: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:31] <aglIV> soundray: I partially worked, but I think I know what the problem is....
[01:31] <gyaresu> kane77: I agree.
[01:31] <phatrabbit> erUSUL: thanks
[01:32] <flsp> soundray, tried google yesterday. found nothing. the real problem is: this notebook is from a friend, has only windows partitions, and suddenly becomes unbootable. I am trying to use linux to recover MBR, or to backup.
[01:32] <erUSUL> kane77: not strange at all it says it clear in the 2 first lines of the file
[01:32] <aglIV> soundray: the other problem is that my wife is waiting and lunch is on the table, so I'll be back.....
[01:32] <kane77> gyaresu, could it be the vmware that causes that? (it added some network devices..)
[01:32] <DaveTarmac> afternoon folks. got a networking problem. using a wired connection now. cable plugged directly in to router, light came on the router indicating that a connection has been made, but cannot retrieve ip from dhcp.
[01:32] <soundray> aglIV: guten Appetit
[01:32] <aglIV> vielen dank
[01:32] <gyaresu> kane77: Here's mine: http://rafb.net/p/R8yDRR61.html
[01:32] <soundray> flsp: I see, so for all we know the disk may be faulty?
[01:33] <gyaresu> kane77: no to vmware (i think)
[01:33] <gyaresu> kane77: Sorry I won't be much use atm. I really must sleep.
[01:33] <soundray> flsp: have you got a spare laptop hard disk to exchange it?
[01:33] <DaveTarmac> are there any special commands i need to enter in order to get my WIRED connection working?
[01:33] <kane77> gyaresu, ok, bye
[01:33] <aglIV> soundray:  auch zum essen gerad? dann malzeit und la's schmecken.... und tu nicht verrecken ;)
[01:34] <bigbang14> omg! i was messing about in nautilus, yes i know bad thing to do, when i changed some important file permission. problem is i don't know which ones and i don't know how to change them back. is there a simple way out?
[01:34] <gyaresu> kane77: Short term solution would be to run a script that changed it on boot. Maybe a line in /etc/rc.local
[01:34] <soundray> aglIV: thanks, we'll have Brtchen for lunch today. We found a place here that makes good ones, indistinguishable from proper German ones ;)
[01:35] <soundray> aglIV: well, "brunch"
[01:35] <daedra> "i must sleep" = "insomniac" said backwards
[01:35] <kane77> gyaresu, okay, Ill try that anyways I plan to reinstall after feisty is released...
[01:36] <flsp> soundray, not physically. I could find a linux prog "testdisk" which can list all the files inside the partitions - the data is all there.
[01:36] <DaveTarmac> i have made sure that eth0 is up, but still cannot get an ip through dhcp using dhclient
[01:36] <rjalex01> how can I debug hibernate (suspend to disk) ? suspend to ram works well (Fn+F4) but suspend-to-disk (Fn+F12) does not seem to work (screen blanks momentarily but then session resumed)
[01:36] <flsp> soundray, no, I have not a spare disk
[01:37] <logikon> why keyring manager never actually "remembers" my password on a samba network access? I always have to type it again even though I check it to memorize..
[01:37] <bigbang14> i was messing about in nautilus, yes i know bad thing to do, when i changed some important file permission. problem is i don't know which ones and i don't know how to change them back. is there a simple way out?
[01:38] <Lunar_Lamp> bigbang14, what are the effects of the permissions change?
[01:38] <soundray> flsp: for safety, I would recommend backing up the disk, perhaps with dd if all else fails. Do you have an external disk or space on an accessible network share for doing that?
[01:39] <bigbang14> Lunar_Lamp: im getting message on start up about .dmrc i think and i cant use sudo or compiz
[01:39] <bigbang14> i changed most of the file permission starting from top
[01:39] <Co_Hilang> hello
[01:40] <bigbang14> any way to change them back to a default?
[01:41] <soundray> bigbang14: bummer. Easiest is to reinstall
[01:42] <soundray> bigbang14: you can fix the permissions one by one, starting with .dmrc, but it will take longer.
[01:43] <flsp> soundray, I have only a pendrive. have no big external unit to dd the entire disk. and have no network, because no linux distro could recognize this network adapter (Rhine II) - when i try to activate eth0, believe me, the kernel locks.
[01:43] <ikonia> rhine ii is supported isn't it
[01:43] <DaveTarmac> getting ticked at this now. why am i destined not to have this machine on the network?
[01:43] <nazgul> running dapper. I cannot get a new login when already logged into Gnome. neither nested mode nor new X server works. when I run "gdmflexiserver --xnest" in a shell nothing happens, it just blocks. any ideas?
[01:43] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: explain
[01:43] <phatrabbit> damm this is driving me crazy. I have used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common and installed my drivers which didnt work. I have tried Envy which downloaded drivers and isntalled them and didnt work. i am stumped any help would be much appriciated thanks
[01:44] <soundray> flsp: I'll be away for a while now -- freedos might be the solution for the mbr. Good luck
[01:44] <DaveTarmac> if anyone can help then I would be most grateful, plus it would save me money paying for new windows in the house.
[01:44] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: explain
[01:44] <flsp> ikonia, i dont know... in my notebook, no linux distro could bring it up.
[01:44] <ikonia> phatrabbit: what problem are you having
[01:45] <phatrabbit> ikonia: well i had huge problems with installing the latest nvidia drivers with ubuntu 6.06 dapper and now i upgraded to 6.10 and i am still having the same issue
[01:45] <flsp> soundray, thanks a lot for your assistance. i'll try freedos.
[01:45] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: For tha past week I have been trying to get MadWifi working to no success. Today I gave up, carted the machine downstairs and plugged it directly in to the router. There is still no network connection though.
[01:45] <loppa> can anybody help me with a DVD issue? Cant get it to work, says access denied. Even though I've installed libxine1 and libdvdcss
[01:46] <phatrabbit> ikonia: everytime i install the drivers and it updates the xconf and i restart xserver my monitor goes to standby
[01:46] <ikonia> phatrabbit: 1.) what is the problem 2.) why are you trying to use the nvidia drivers, rather than the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos
[01:46] <Clujo> DaveTarmac, did you try booting from the live cd?  what wifi card.
[01:46] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: there are lights on the router in the port I've plugged it in to which means that an active connection is thee
[01:46] <nazgul> hmm, actually I am running Edgy. I cannot start a second X server to have two sessions running.
[01:46] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: that suggests there is something else wrong as the odds of your wifi and wired connection ont working is a little slim
[01:46] <ikonia> nazgul: you can only have 1 xserver running per display
[01:47] <phatrabbit> ikonia: i will paste my xconf file for you
[01:47] <jin> how do I enable shadow without using beryl?
[01:47] <phatrabbit> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <nazgul> ikonia: I know.when I run "gdmflexiserver --xnest" in a shell nothing happens, it just blocks. any ideas?
[01:47] <jpjacobs> ikonia, more like 1 xserver per VT, and then you can also use Xnest to have an xserver in an xserver
[01:47] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: i did have the wifi working a couple of days ago, but it lost all settings on reboot
[01:47] <jin> !composite
[01:47] <g0su> Can you help me with locale? -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8579/
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <ikonia> jpjacobs: thats a better description
[01:48] <aglIV> soundray: I'm back... still there
[01:48] <aglIV> ikonia: you didn't recieve any pm from me did you?
[01:48] <ikonia> aglIV: nope
[01:49] <techie> I need to install an xp into ubuntu via the cd and then put it in virtual C drive. How do I send this to virtual C drive?
[01:49] <techie> an xp program unto ubuntu
[01:49] <bigbang14> are all the permission in ubuntu the same or will i have to change them to differnt things?
[01:49] <ikonia> techie: what are you on about - xp into ubuntu /???? do you mean using a virtual machine
[01:50] <Clujo> techie- look up wine, see if that will do.
[01:50] <DaveTarmac> screw it - i'm going to take a leaf out of the windows tech help book. If it doesn't work, format and reinstall!
[01:50] <ompaul> DaveTarmac, hardly help in that case
[01:50] <Phatrabbi1> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <flsp> hi folks, can I run freedos fdisk inside linux, without having to boot freedos???
[01:51] <Askar> hi!! The search option has disappeared from the places-menu! How do I get it back?
[01:51] <techie> Ikonia. NO! Basically there is an specific program I used to use while in xp called "Wenlin" (for learning Chinese). According to the instructions the only way to run this in Linux is to actually install the program in linux and then put in virtual C and do a (fake windows) so that you can run that program!
[01:51] <ikonia> flsp: not really - its still meant for dos
[01:51] <ikonia> techie: so you mean wine ?
[01:51] <Sivako> Hi
[01:51] <elkbuntu> !wine | techie
[01:51] <ubotu> techie: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:51] <Clujo> techie - again, have you looked at wine?
[01:51] <aglIV> ikonia: did you get my invitation?
[01:51] <ompaul> flsp, not really, but afik you could try to use qemu to start booting freefos if I understand it correctly
[01:51] <techie> I already have wine installed. and Yes the wine will try to run the program.
[01:52] <ikonia> ok - so whats your question, how do I use wine ?
[01:52] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia:  here is my xorg.config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8580/
[01:52] <ikonia> aglIV: nope
[01:52] <nazgul> flsp: perhaps using a msdos emulator. but linux comes with fdisk, cfdisk, parted ...
[01:52] <techie> Ikonia... hold on.
[01:52] <ompaul> aglIV, usually better to ask in the channel then anyone with a clue about what you are asking can help you
[01:53] <flsp> ompaul, I never used qemu - only wine... but i will try.
[01:53] <ompaul> flsp, not done it a while but the online howtos for it are rather good
[01:53] <bigbang14> where can i find a list of ubuntus original file permission?
[01:53] <techie> ikonia. first I must install Wenlin in debian system and then put in virtual C and use the following command: wine ~'/.wine/fake_windows/Program Files/Wenlin3/wenlin.exe'.
[01:54] <ikonia> bigbang14: on an ubuntu box
[01:54] <aglIV> ompaul: I want to send ikonia my email and ICQ address and really don't care but thought it would't be good to post here....
[01:54] <flsp> nazgul, i have to recover dos MBR. I think only dos fdisk can do it. is that right?
[01:54] <ikonia> techie: you do realise it may be a bit different on ubuntu
[01:54] <ikonia> aglIV: I'm not getting any info from you
[01:54] <techie> ikonia... yes but the program is not a true linux program yet.... I realize it might not be perfect
[01:55] <aglIV> ikonia: looks like the /invite nick channel is not working... so would you join me in #aglIV-pm?
[01:55] <ikonia> techie: the pogram is a windows program. So you need to install and configure wine on UBUNTU, then use wine to launch it
[01:55] <ompaul> aglIV, that would not be a good idea
[01:55] <techie> ikonia.... but I need the program and do not want to be going back to windows all the time just because of it.
[01:55] <ikonia> aglIV: yup
[01:55] <flsp> ompaul, yep, ill do some reading, and come back here later... thanks for the hint.
[01:55] <ompaul> aglIV, you need to be ops in a channel for that to work
[01:55] <ikonia> techie: thats fine - then use the ubuntu guide to install and configure wine
[01:55] <ziottt> hi there
[01:56] <techie> Ikonia I have already installed wine..... but what I do not understand is how to install to virtual drive c?
[01:56] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8580/
[01:56] <ikonia> Phatrabbi1: what ?
[01:56] <Clujo> the virtual drive c is already there if wine is installed.
[01:56] <ikonia> Phatrabbi1: you need to tell me the problem
[01:56] <techie> clujo. I was not aware even now I could see and read and use some of my windows programs through my windows folder
[01:57] <ziottt> time ago I remove apache and its service, but today I tried to re install it again but I can't find the service to launch it
[01:57] <techie> is that virtual c?
[01:57] <phatrabbit> ikonia: everytime i install the new nvidia drivers and it updates the xconf and i restart xserver my monitor goes to standby
[01:57] <ziottt> how is it possible
[01:57] <ziottt> tom@skeleton:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache-ssl
[01:57] <ziottt> Replacing config file /etc/apache-ssl/modules.conf with new version
[01:57] <ziottt> tom@skeleton:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ap
[01:57] <ziottt> apmd    apport
[01:57] <DaveTarmac> ikonia: ok - i've just booted it in to windows and that doesn't have the network driver for the onboard ethernet. could it be that Ubuntu doesn't either? If this is the case - how do Igo about putting one on?
[01:57] <ikonia> phatrabbit: are you using ubuntu or ubuntu x86_^4
[01:57] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia: i am using ubuntu 86
[01:57] <ikonia> DaveTarmac: what windows has/has not got is nothing to do with what ubuntu may or may not have
[01:58] <Phatrabbi1> ikonia:  how can i double check
[01:58] <erUSUL> Phatrabbi1: uname -m
[01:58] <Clujo> DaveTarmac, if you can, try a real cheap ethercard and boot from live cd.
[01:58] <ompaul> ziottt, care to use a pastebin next time?
[01:58] <Phatrabbi1> i686
[01:58] <DaveTarmac> so does ubuntu not work with onboard ethernet either then by default?
[01:58] <ikonia> phatrabbi I have seen issues like this  you may want to join #nvidia and ask in there as its normally something to do with dcc info not being advertised properly so it doesn't initialise the monitor, or dpms is not working
[01:59] <ziottt> ok ok
[01:59] <ziottt> sorry
[01:59] <Phatrabbi1> ok thanks
[01:59] <SirTouster> Hello, I have been finally getting rid of windows, took one disk with windows out, reinstalled grub on my minulx disk, and all was fine. Only, the sound does not work any more. Only hint I can see is that the "volme control" in the tray is not there any more. Please, could anybody help? Shoudl I put here some other specifications (in lshw, I cann see my card properly). Running on EdgyEft.
[01:59] <Clujo> ubuntu should find it DaveTarmac .
[01:59] <erUSUL> ubotu tell SirTouster about sound | SirTouster see priv msg from ubotu
[01:59] <Clujo> I have weird, old hardware and ubuntu has found everything.
[02:00] <jin> !nvidia
[02:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <techie> ikonia... another question. I recently download a medical movie ending with wrmv but I do not have the codecs to run it in totem. How do I download or find codecs for playing with my Ubuntu system?
[02:00] <jin> the performance of nvidia on ubuntu is very poor here
[02:00] <DaveTarmac> ok. so i'll get the latest live cd and try booting off that then to see if it picks it up.
[02:00] <Clujo> find a couple live cds.  knoppix too
[02:01] <techie> ikonia .... or for that matter how do I install needed codecs to be able to play them with my media player?
[02:01] <ompaul> Dave123, it does in most cases - I have yet to find a machine it does not work on
[02:01] <ikonia> techie: probably win32 codecs
[02:01] <techie> ikonia.... ah, thanks.
[02:01] <ikonia> !restricedformats >techie
[02:01] <techie> ok
[02:01] <Matic`Makovec> Which video player is the best to use for watching .wmv or siilar things?
[02:02] <ikonia> Matic`Makovec: doesn't matter, as long as they all have the codecs
[02:02] <Matic`Makovec> Which codecs are actually required? I'm kinda having problems with watching someting in Totem
[02:02] <aglIV> ikonia: sent you an email ;)
[02:02] <ikonia> win32 codecs
[02:02] <ikonia> aglIV: ok - thanks
[02:02] <Matic`Makovec> !win32
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <ikonia> !restricedformats >matic`makovec
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> !restricedformats > matic`makovec
[02:03] <Matic`Makovec> Righto, thanks
[02:03] <Euperia> i have a Dell C400 Latitude Laptop with no cd/dvd or floppy drive running Slackware 10.1 and  I want to install ubuntu on it.  Bios has option to boot from network.  How do I boot the loopback device mounted on my main box from the laptop over the lan?
[02:03] <ikonia> aglIV: I've just noticed I WAS getting your invites, it was just showing up on a difference desktop. Sorry
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: do you remember what info was in your ICQ profile??? I can search for you
[02:04] <paradroid> Hi. Is there an alternative to cups-pdf that will produce PDFs from any application (just like cups-pdf) but *with* the text in the PDF being selectable?
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: don't worry
[02:04] <ikonia> aglIV: nah, I'll find it on my old desktop
[02:04] <logikon> when I apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, will it install the latest version of xfce?
[02:04] <aglIV> ikonia: k, got time :)
[02:05] <comosicus> anybody using gaime?
[02:05] <Clujo> logikon, yes, but google it.
[02:05] <ikonia> comosicus: yes
[02:05] <paradroid> comosicus: Gaim? As IM Client? Yes, once in a while.
[02:05] <aglIV> ikonia: looks like soundray's no longer arround so your'e stuck with helping me out.... hehehe
[02:05] <ikonia> not at all
[02:05] <ikonia> happy to help
[02:05] <logikon> Clujo: the about says version <IP_ADDRESS> (xfce 4.4 beta2)
[02:05] <Dame> yey, finally my dad realised that he need to install linux on his pc, lap-top and at work. I feel good when gnu/linux gains people trust!
[02:06] <logikon> and I can't seem to find the transparency settings
[02:06] <comosicus> when i trying to ad buddy gaime says that the id is not on a server list
[02:06] <paradroid> comosicus: What protocoll?
[02:07] <paradroid> Anyone using cups-pdf to generate PDFs?
[02:08] <aglIV> ikonia: so I chaged the entries in grub.lst, but the problem is another (I think)
[02:09] <comosicus> in my acounts box it's yahoo....and if i click add it's aim/icq
[02:09] <ikonia> aglIV: wich problem is this
[02:09] <g0su> aglet, in grub.lst or menu.lst?
[02:09] <g0su> aglIV, sorry
[02:09] <aglIV> ikonia: to make a long story short it's saying root (hd0,4) FS unknown Partition 0x7
[02:09] <Five_Star> hello everybody
[02:09] <ikonia> aglIV: thats because you want (hd1,7)
[02:10] <aglIV> g0su: good question, let me look
[02:10] <ikonia> (assuming your root is sda8)
[02:10] <Five_Star> I've been trying to install ubuntu (I'm a veteran to this but I'm having some odd problems)
[02:10] <aglIV> ikonia: that was on box 2, talking bot box 3 now
[02:10] <ikonia> ok - so whats this problem
[02:10] <aglIV> ikonia: :)
[02:10] <g0su> aglIV, in my ubuntu is /boot/grub/menu.lst...
[02:10] <Five_Star> Every time I try to install, it gets to 15% (the ext3 partition part, I think creation), and it freezes
[02:10] <aglIV> g0su: mine too ;)
[02:10] <g0su> and in ubuntu documentation is /boot/grub/menu.lst XD
[02:11] <ikonia> its /boot/grub/menu.lst - ok - we've established that
[02:11] <paradroid> comosicus: Let me set up a Yahoo account for testing. Second.
[02:11] <comosicus> k
[02:11] <Five_Star> anybody have any ideas why it's freezing there?
[02:11] <g0su> (hd0,4) FS unknown Partition 0x7 = your partition dont have file system format or this partition is not correct
[02:11] <aglIV> ikonia:  g0su the problem was that grub was't seing windows so I updated menu.lst to the correct hd and partition, but then got the errror that I mentioned before
[02:12] <nemesis_> nas
[02:12] <aglIV> ikonia:  g0su and I think that I know why.....
[02:12] <ikonia> aglIV: you're grub options for windows looks different
[02:12] <ikonia> hang on I'll pastebin and example
[02:12] <g0su> aglIV, df -h and you menu.lst i need it
[02:12] <g0su> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :D
[02:12] <Hmmmm> when is fiesty out?
[02:12] <christophe> Hi folks. I have a strange Boot behavior with GRUB. I never saw that before. After the 'GRUB loading stage1.5.'-message it takes 30 sec (!) and then I get 'GRUB loading please wait' and then it takes another 30 sec. (!!) until ubuntu starts to boot. What is going wrong here?
[02:13] <Five_Star> Hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu (6.10), and every time it gets to the formatting part, it freezes at 15% (the ext3 partition creation part)
[02:13] <techie> ikonia totem movie player tells me I might not have the necessary pluggins. How do I install additional pluggins?
[02:14] <christophe> Five_Star: Are you sure, that your HD is ok?
[02:14] <predaeus> christophe: does it always happen? And did you change anything?
[02:14] <techie> ikonia the ending of the movie file is wmv
[02:14] <Five_Star> christophe: yea, but just to be double sure is there a way I can tell if it has died?
[02:14] <Five_Star> christophe: it's not making any crazy noises or the like
[02:15] <ikonia> !restrictedformats >technie
[02:15] <ikonia> !restrictedformats >techie
[02:15] <techie> ok thanks.
[02:15] <erUSUL> Five_Star: are you able to switch to a console and take a look at the logs? crtl+alt+F1
[02:15] <Five_Star> erUSUL: yea lemme look
[02:15] <paradroid> Five_Star: You could also use a GParted boot-disk to prepare the harddisk for installation and then let Ubuntu use this set-up.
[02:15] <techie> !restrictedformats
[02:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <ikonia> techie: I just sent you that link
[02:15] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >techie
[02:15] <christophe> predaeus: I can confirm... It always happens and I didn't change anything in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:16] <techie> Ikonia ... yes I am going there now to the links.
[02:17] <javier> hola, beuans tardes, alguien podria ayudarme?
[02:17] <erUSUL> !es > javier
[02:18] <predaeus> christophe: mine hangs only very seldom. and also not that long. maybe 1-2 times a year. dunno what that is though. sry.
[02:18] <robinlinth> How do i get the newest Xfce on my ubuntu install?
[02:18] <barata> anybody uses Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.2?
[02:18] <barata> what the heck is that?
[02:18] <ikonia> barata: its a none official product
[02:18] <barata> is it good?
[02:19] <ikonia> nope
[02:19] <barata> why not?
[02:19] <ikonia> its just pre-packaged stuff
[02:19] <ikonia> but its not official
[02:19] <aglIV> ikonia: g0su http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8583/
[02:19] <comosicus> helloooo!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:19] <ikonia> so its pointless
[02:19] <christophe> predaeus: Could that be a BIOS thing? I am using a 8.6 GB HD with a PIII 766Mhz IBM Netvista
[02:19] <jussi01> !hi | comosicus,
[02:19] <ubotu> comosicus,: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <barata> why the official one is 'better'?
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: that looks fine
[02:19] <Five_star> ok
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: whats the problem
[02:19] <ikonia> aglIV: what partition is your windows
[02:20] <Five_star> when I tried to do that, it froze completely
[02:20] <ikonia> barata: because its suported
[02:20] <tim167> how do i install Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem on ubuntu ?
[02:20] <Five_star> is there a way I can do that from terminal instead? because I have irssi running to get to here xD
[02:20] <barata> supported by whom?
[02:20] <ikonia> ubuntu support
[02:20] <barata> ohh ... ic
[02:20] <ikonia> eg: this channel
[02:20] <barata> are you with ubuntu ikonia
[02:20] <ikonia> nope
[02:20] <barata> well, honestly this channel is useless
[02:20] <magic-llama> is there anything open source like flash that actually works? [it can export to a .gif or mpeg or whatever, i don't need sound, i don't really care about most features :) just basic vector animation stuff]
[02:20] <barata> for newbie maybe
[02:21] <ikonia> then leave
[02:21] <barata> I will, I just wonder about that ultimate thing
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> barata: why do you think the channel is uselss?
[02:21] <christophe> Five_star: You could use the ubuntu alternate disk. That would give you a direct install, without loading the livedisk.
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> I've learned a ton here
[02:21] <ikonia> barata: if you're not a "newbie" then you should be able to read the website and understand
[02:21] <Five_star> christophe: :( I just downloaded this
[02:21] <barata> too many newbies question
[02:21] <Five_star> christophe: I don't wanna download it again
[02:21] <ikonia> yes that is true - but there are other channels
[02:22] <barata> but anyway, this is a place for wannabes & newbies
[02:22] <comosicus> paradroid how it's working?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> barata: oh.. i understand, ikonia is helping you.... ;)
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Got the account set up.
[02:22] <Five_star> xD
[02:22] <elkbuntu> barata, if you know so much, you should be able to help out then :)
[02:22] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: pardon ?
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Sorry, I had to think a lot to remember my password. ;)
[02:22] <barata> I can
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Long time I used the Yahoo account.
[02:22] <comosicus> :)
[02:22] <predaeus> christophe, so it only started to be like that now. It has not been always like that? Dont know if its a BIOS thing. Could also be the disk. Or maybe the GRUB install is somehow foobared.
[02:22] <paradroid> comosicus: Anyway, so now...
[02:22] <christophe> Five_star: Try to burn th *.iso image again with 24x speed or lower.
[02:22] <ikonia> barata: you can what ?
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: no offense at all, i twas just a colorful jab at how you never handhold newbies to an answer, just kinda nudge them
[02:22] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: he claimes he's not a newbie
[02:22] <Five_star> christophe: I burnt it at 1x and verified it
[02:22] <comosicus> yesss
[02:23] <paradroid> comosicus: You want to add a buddy and then ...
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: your advice is always spot on, it just makes me laugh when i watch you help people
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: so he won't be needing my help
[02:23] <barata> I can help if I happen to around when a question is shot
[02:23] <Five_star> christophe: I'm used to doing these things, which surprised me when this didn't work
[02:23] <christophe> Five_star: Ok ;)
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: lol, well you're definitely no use to him then..lol
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: not a problem, I just didn't get it
[02:23] <comosicus> that's all
[02:23] <comosicus> i want
[02:23] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: the gag went over my head, I see what your ribbing me on
[02:23] <barata> so, what is the advanced problem of the day today?
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: yeah, sometimes a chatroom doesn't relay my humor well.
[02:23] <Five_star> lemme try this one more time
[02:24] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: I'm laughing now that I get it
[02:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:24] <barata> how to crack windows using Ubuntu?
[02:24] <ikonia> :D
[02:24] <Five_star> lol
[02:24] <barata> anybody wanna know?
[02:24] <ikonia> barata: no, we're not interested
[02:24] <elkbuntu> barata, that attitude is not welcome here.
[02:24] <christophe> Five_star: Try a new installation and make a partition at the end of the disk, skipping the place where you could have a HD-problem.
[02:24] <jussi01> !offtopic | barata
[02:24] <ubotu> barata: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:24] <Five_star> barata: only a noob would use another os to crack windows, windows doesn't need any help to hack itself
[02:24] <jin> hi
[02:24] <barata> oh man ... please ...
[02:25] <ultra> barata, go away
[02:25] <aglIV> ikonia: /dev/hda5 is windows
[02:25] <paradroid> Five_star: LOL
[02:25] <Five_star> barata: you of all people should know about the neat new bios emulation hack
[02:25] <ikonia> aglIV: then that looks spot on
[02:25] <jin> when moving windows around, it leaves traces behind for half a second. any way to fix that?
[02:25] <jin> does that occur to your desktop too?
[02:25] <barata> oh yeah, it sucks
[02:25] <ghatak> Hi, i installed artwiz fonts but they do not show up when i try to set Gnome Terminal fonts, i have checked and the fonts are in  /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc dir. the path is in xorg.conf, What do i have to do to get these fonts working ?
[02:25] <barata> stay away from Vista
[02:25] <elkbuntu> Five_star, the same goes for you. no cracking talk.
[02:25] <aglIV> ikonia: spot on?
[02:25] <Five_star> barata: what do you think I'm installing ubuntu on top of? xD
[02:25] <ikonia> aglIV: yup hd0,4
[02:25] <paradroid> jin: You could activate the Reduced Ressources setting
[02:25] <golden> :P
[02:26] <ikonia> barata: this is a support channel, contibute or be quiet - its busy enough as it is
[02:26] <paradroid> jin: That will give you the frame of the windows when moving but not the contents
[02:26] <jin> paradroid, r heard of that. tell me more plz
[02:26] <barata> I dont know, I just run linux only
[02:26] <christophe> predaeus: Hmmm.... Maybe I will try SuperGrub. It might help ...
[02:26] <aglIV> ikonia: let me tell you what I did....
[02:26] <barata> nope
[02:26] <ikonia> aglIV: ok
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> barata: you may have more luck finding people of your skill level in #ubuntu-experts
[02:26] <jin> paradroid, how do I do that?
[02:26] <paradroid> jin: Run gconf-editor
[02:26] <barata> you must use a windoz booter
[02:26] <barata> for dual booting
[02:26] <Five_star> christophe: it's giving me an sda buffer error at a random block every time
[02:27] <Five_star> christophe: wait! It decided to work this time!
[02:27] <barata> and dont encrypt your vista
[02:27] <jin> paradroid, then?
[02:27] <paradroid> jin: Then navigate to apps >metacity
[02:27] <ikonia> barata: please give the windows chat a rest, this is a busy channel
[02:27] <Hobbsee> !ettiquite | barata
[02:27] <Five_star> christophe: I'm going to go with: The fact that I was in #ubuntu while I tried to install it forced it to work. :)
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ettiquite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <paradroid> jin: Expand and choose the "general" section
[02:27] <Hobbsee> !guidelines | barata
[02:27] <ubotu> barata: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:27] <barata> oh ... I dont need your help at all
[02:28] <barata> bye all
[02:28] <christophe> Five_star: Yeah ;)
[02:28] <paradroid> jin: There you will find the "Reduced Resources" checkbox which you might want to check ;)
[02:28] <Hobbsee> thanks elkbuntu
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> poor fella
[02:28] <jin> paradroid, does that effect occur on your desktop too?
[02:28] <Five_star> christophe: maybe this hdd is on it's way out, I hope so, then I can yell at western digital until they give me steep discounts on their new 500gb drives
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> but i request that he not be allowed to invade off-topic either..lol
[02:28] <ikonia> thank you
[02:28] <aglIV> ikonia g0su this is what happened... I wanted to use the same fat16 partition for both windows and linux booting -> hda1
[02:28] <paradroid> jin: The trail of moved windows? No. I just thought the reduced resources might help.
[02:28] <ikonia> aglIV: you can't do that
[02:29] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, if he does he will meet o4o
[02:29] <Five_star> heh
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: lol
[02:29] <g0su> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8584/
[02:29] <jin> paradroid, it does here. what do you think is the problem?
[02:29] <aglIV> ikonia g0su then installed windows and then when trying to install ubuntu i messed everything up
[02:29] <Five_star> heh
[02:29] <aglIV> ikonia:  yes i figured that out
[02:29] <alitrix> hi, after shutting down my kubunt, I get: 'time-of-day clock stopped'
[02:29] <jin> paradroid, any way to test my nvidia card with the current driver?
[02:29] <ikonia> aglIV: ahh good
[02:29] <Five_star> why not just use two partitons?
[02:29] <paradroid> jin: Sounds like the window manager needs too much system resources. Do you run on old hardware?
[02:29] <alitrix> can't get mine Dell laptop started anymore
[02:30] <jin> paradroid, nope
[02:30] <jin> os[Linux 2.6.15-28-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3700+ @ 1.00GHz]  mem[Physical : 1519MB, 85.6% free]  disk[Total : 225.92GB, 36.60% Free]  video[10de:01df]  sound[NFORCE - Intel ICH]
[02:30] <alitrix> been sniffing around on google, and I noticed a lot of ubuntu users have seen this issue
[02:30] <paradroid> jin: But you do use Metacity.
[02:30] <elkbuntu> jin, please dont use /sysinfo here
[02:30] <frodew> Where can I find systemrestore in Ubuntu ? (doing a school-task) msg thx:)
[02:30] <jin> paradroid, there
[02:30] <aglIV> ikonia I somehow screwed up the data on hd1 becaus windows will no longer boot and grub doesn't (didn't) see windows...
[02:30] <comosicus> paradroid.........
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> alitrix: what seems to be the issue.
[02:31] <paradroid> comosicus: Yeah, go on. You need to tell me what happens when you want to add a buddy.
[02:31] <ikonia> aglIV: grub can't read ntfs partitions so you will get the "unknown" partition error
[02:31] <alitrix> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149565
[02:31] <paradroid> comosicus: I'll try to reproduce.
[02:31] <alitrix> i'm having the same issues as these ppl
[02:31] <aglIV> ikonia g0su so now I need to fix some stuff
[02:31] <comosicus> k
[02:31] <ikonia> aglIV: I see
[02:31] <alitrix> and it looks like I've to open my laptop and remove the BIOS battery
[02:31] <paradroid> jin: What is your graphic card driver?
[02:31] <aglIV> so how do I boot windows?
[02:31] <aglIV> ikonia: boot windows?
[02:31] <alitrix> I'm afraid to break the front-end of the laptop, when opening it
[02:31] <frodew> :p
[02:31] <jin> paradroid, nvidia
[02:32] <comosicus> my gaime it's says that the buddy is not on a server list
[02:32] <jin> nvidia               4551028  12
[02:32] <ikonia> aglIV: have a read up on the chainloader option
[02:32] <jin> agpgart                34888  1 nvidia
[02:32] <tim167> does anyone know how to install an Alcatel Speedtouch USB modem on ubuntu ?
[02:32] <nomin> jin: I'm using the nvidia driver from nvidia's site right now, although I'm currently on a different distro.
[02:32] <paradroid> jin: Do glxgears run smooth for you?
[02:32] <Ferret> aglIV: usually just title windows  /  chainload (hd0,1)+1
[02:33] <jussi01> tim167, usbmodems can be quite hard to get running
[02:33] <Ferret> aglIV: With the correct device (usually hd0,0 == hda1, hd1,1 == hdb2, etc..
[02:33] <jin> paradroid, how do you define smooth?
[02:33] <aglIV> Ferret: for c:/Windows?
[02:33] <comosicus> where it is wrinting online or offline  in my gaime it's says not on a server list
[02:33] <Ferret> aglIV: yah.
[02:33] <paradroid> jin: Good question. Just from the visual impression. Wanted to rule out that there might be something wrong with acceleration.
[02:33] <nomin> jin: all I need to do on my 32-bit system is uninstall the current nvidia driver, download the file from nvidias site, exit X, then open the installer as root in a vitual terminal.
[02:34] <tim167> jussi01: that's what i suspected...but still i have to try it
[02:34] <aglIV> Ferret hda5
[02:34] <nomin> *virtual terminal
[02:34] <jin> nomin, ok, I'm gonna try it then
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: So I just added you (using this nick) to my buddy list.
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: It told me also you were not on the server list, then I querried your info
[02:34] <jin> nomin, do you need the kernel source/header files?
[02:34] <paradroid> comosicus: Now you show up fine.
[02:35] <jin> paradroid, I don't think it's smooth
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> I'm running Dual Displays, which is awesome, but i just found something I don't like.  Each monitor has its own desktop, I can only have firefox open on one desktop, if I try to open it on the other, i get a Firefox is already running, close the existing process, or restart(gag)... anyway to make firefox run in multiple sessions?
[02:35] <nomin> jin: oh yeah, I've needed the kernel source package as well.  The driver needs it to configure itself properly.
[02:35] <jussi01> jin you may want to use envy
[02:35] <aglIV> Ferret: menu.lst excerpt :title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[02:35] <aglIV> root		(hd0,4)
[02:35] <aglIV> savedefault
[02:35] <aglIV> makeactive
[02:35] <aglIV> chainloader	+1
[02:35] <jussi01> !envy | jin
[02:35] <ubotu> jin: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:35] <jin> jussi01, what's envy?
[02:35] <paradroid> paradroid: OK, then you seem to have driver issues.nomin was talking about installing drivers, right?
[02:35] <nomin> jin: the kernel source is usually a big package so you'll need to spend some time downloading it.
[02:35] <comosicus> i know that other people can add me but the problem is that i can't add other people
[02:36] <ompaul> aglIV, can you use a pastebin for that stuff - more than two lines is a flood
[02:36] <aglIV> Ferret ikonia so what's the deal?
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what service are you trying to configure with GAIM/.. sounds like its not configured correctly
[02:36] <comosicus> no sounds
[02:37] <aglIV> ompaul: normally I would... thought 5 wasn't worth it...
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: do you have sound in other apps?
[02:37] <ompaul> aglIV, it is :)
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: does your sound work with other apps?
[02:38] <comosicus> apps?!!!
[02:38] <nomin> jin: also, when you update the kernel, (which ubuntu does automatically every now and then), you'll probably need to download the kernel source for that new kernel and reinstall the nvidia driver again.
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: applications, can you open, say a music application like XMMS, and play a sound file
[02:38] <comosicus> aaaaaaaaa
[02:38] <jin> nomin, I'm going to run envy now
[02:38] <jin> brb
[02:38] <comosicus> not all aplication
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: huh?
[02:39] <comosicus> just some
[02:39] <nomin> hmmm...I don't think people need scripts like envy for installing the nvidia driver.
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> do you get sound when you start ubuntu, the little humming africans or the bongo drums?
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> nomin: whats envy?
[02:39] <comosicus> my upgrade is not full
[02:39] <jussi01> !envy | IndyGunFreak
[02:39] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: you're not making any sense
[02:39] <nomin> IndyGunFreak: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:39] <AMD->  IndyGunFreak: thast a good sound gets me so exited
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: lol, no comment
[02:40] <nomin> maybe envy can be good but I've heard that the scripts that are supposed to make things super easy also cause problems.
[02:40] <comosicus> but what in the hell have to do with my problem
[02:40] <jussi01> nomin, envy is a great script
[02:41] <comosicus> i cant add buddy to my gaim list
[02:41] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: so that's what that is? humming africans?
[02:41] <comosicus> that is my problem
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: well, first we can't distinguish wether its your PC or GAIM
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: i think so.
[02:41] <comosicus> is gaim
[02:41] <Five_star> comosicus: why not go to the gaim support channel?
[02:41] <nomin> jussi01: does envy set up everything for ATI's?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: they prolly threw him out.
[02:41] <jussi01> nomin, yes it does
[02:41] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: lol, so they recorded humming africans?
[02:41] <comosicus> becouse some buddy work fine
[02:41] <comosicus> :)
[02:41] <aglIV> Ferret: ikonia: still with me?
[02:42] <nomin> jussi01: sounds like a good deal.
[02:42] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: they like, flew to africa and got some of them to hum, then recorded it?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Five_star: well, maybe they simulated it...
[02:42] <Five_star> IndyGunFreak: hehehe
[02:42] <jussi01> comosicus, have you got see offline buddies on?
[02:42] <Five_star> alright, ubuntu installed, time for the restart
[02:42] <AMD-> IndyGunFreak:you must have a different sound from me then
[02:42] <jussi01> nomin, you always know its a good one when the bot doesnt do this:
[02:42] <jussi01> !automatix
[02:42] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: just about everything i have is different from everyone else it seems..lol
[02:43] <nomin> heh
[02:43] <Also> hello!
[02:43] <AMD->  IndyGunFreak: no comment
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> AMD-: lo
[02:44] <jussi01> !hi | Also
[02:44] <ubotu> Also: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:44] <Ferret> It wants you to reboot when done
[02:44] <Also> could anyone tell me how i can get my "linksys wireles g notebook adapter" working?
[02:44] <comosicus> almoust all my buddy's work fine.......i can see them add them erased them and add again if i whant but i have 2 buddy that doesnt work
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Also
[02:44] <ubotu> Also: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <Also> ok thanks!
[02:44] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux
[02:44] <Ferret> aglIV: I'd say remove every line apart from the title and have: chainloader (hd0,4)+1
[02:44] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux in ubuntu
[02:45] <jussi01> !patience | berent
[02:45] <ubotu> berent: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:45] <comosicus> where it sopoused to show if it is online or offline it show's :this is not on a server list
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: well then something says youve not configured it wrong.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> i mean configured it right
[02:46] <eyalw> hi
[02:46] <berent> I am patient will anyone help this patient!!!
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> !hi | eyalw
[02:46] <eyalw> how do i open the formula bar in OpenDocument, ? ???
[02:46] <ubotu> eyalw: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:46] <comosicus> when i click info on bad buddys it says :that language is not suported yet
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: i have no idea, you might try the gaim support channel... i have no issues at all with GAIM.
[02:47] <aglIV> Ferret: will that compensate for the faulty hd1?
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what services are you trying to use with GAIM?
[02:47] <comosicus> yahoo
[02:47] <eyalw> how do i open the formula bar in OpenDocument, ? ????
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, my yahoo account is working fine.
[02:47] <tkp> Hi
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: have you ever tried kopete?
[02:48] <Ferret> aglIV: I thought windows was on hda5?
[02:48] <tkp> I'm trying to use update-manager to upgrade mt Dapper to Edgy
[02:48] <Ferret> aglIV: What's on the second hard drive?
[02:48] <comosicus> no becouse i whant to solve that
[02:48] <tkp> I'm running it as `gksu "update-manager -c"`
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: what version of GAIM?
[02:48] <jamyskis> who should i go to if the NickServ is rejecting my password for whatever reason?
[02:48] <tkp> but The button which allows you to upgrade seems to be missing
[02:49] <tkp> all I can do is check for package updates
[02:49] <Skew-> firefox question: is there a way to increase/decrease the font sizes for just 1 website?
[02:49] <aglIV> Ferret: this is what happened... I wanted to use the same fat16 partition for both windows and linux booting -> hda1
[02:49] <berent> I am patient will anyone help this patient!!!
[02:49] <berent> is there any sqlj compiler  for linux in ubuntu
[02:49] <berent> SQLJ???
[02:49] <comosicus> v1.5.1cvs
[02:49] <aglIV> Ferret /windows is hda5
[02:49] <tkp> Apparently there should be a little bit at the top of the window that says "New distribution release is available"
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, well that should be the stable version.
[02:49] <comosicus> there is a gaime suport channel?
[02:49] <tkp> with a button saying "upgrade"
[02:49] <tkp> but it's not there
[02:50] <jussi01> !repeat
[02:50] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> !gaim
[02:50] <Ferret> aglIV: So hda1 is /boot?
[02:50] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:50] <tkp> what am I supposed to do to get this option??
[02:50] <paradroid> comosicus: What version of Gaim do you use?
[02:50] <aglIV> Ferret: but boot is /hd1 and on installing ubuntu I messed everything up...
[02:50] <berent> !sqlj
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> paradroid: 1.5  so he's using the stable version
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sqlj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <comosicus> v1.5.1cvs
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: it has to be something you've configured wrong
[02:50] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: OK.
[02:51] <paradroid> comosicus: What is the server you are trying to connect to?
[02:51] <Pelo> !java
[02:51] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:51] <aglIV> Ferret: perhaps you could counsolt with ikonia or g0su... and I'll be back in 15 min
[02:51] <soundray> berent: you can ask all day long -- if nobody knows your answer, you won't get any. Logical?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> comosicus: now i have read some reports on other forums about Yahoo having several outtages this weekend(I've had no probs though)
[02:51] <paradroid> comosicus: scs.yahoo.com or scs.msg.yahoo.com
[02:51] <Pelo> !flash
[02:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <tkp> anyone??
[02:51] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> tkp: keep your question on one line, its hard to follow one person with so much going on in here
[02:52] <soundray> !upgrade > tkp, read your pm please
[02:52] <Ferret> aglIV: well, I would suggest trying the second post from this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[02:52] <tkp> soundray: I have read that
[02:52] <tkp> and am doing what it say... "gksu update-manager -c "
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:53] <paradroid> tkp: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[02:53] <tkp> paradroid: it doesn't say that
[02:53] <tkp> what is -d?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> tkp: lol, he's tryng to help you and you're questioning his help
[02:53] <soundray> tkp: listen to paradroid, and try without the quotes -- they appear to be the wrong ones from your line
[02:54] <paradroid> tkp: The switches tell the regular update manager to check for beta upgrades. This is necessary even when Edgy is out of beta, in order to upgrade from one version to the next.
[02:54] <tkp> -d made no difference
[02:54] <tkp> gksu "update-manager -c -d
[02:54] <tkp> and I tried without the quotes
[02:54] <Udi> hi
[02:55] <paradroid> tkp: Did you run a "Check" (update sources) again?
[02:55] <soundray> tkp: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get update-manager'
[02:55] <AMD-> can any one help me with this ------------>Xerox:~# irw
[02:55] <AMD-> connect: Connection refused
[02:55] <soundray> tkp: sry 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install update-manager'
[02:55] <Pelo> AMD-,  what are you trying to do ?
[02:55] <venik> does anyone know how to install the NVIDIA drivers for geoforce 400?
[02:56] <jussi01> !envy | venik
[02:56] <ubotu> venik: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[02:56] <venik> the ENVY script did some damage, so I would like to stay away from it
[02:56] <tkp> soundray: I have the packages already
[02:56] <AMD-> Pelo: get my mce remote to work
[02:56] <alitrix> a/w 48
[02:56] <ohir> interesting.. such f*g unneeded thingy as flash9 was backported to dapper, postgres 8.2 you need to backport yourself :/
[02:56] <soundray> tkp: just do it PLEASE
[02:56] <tkp> soundray: I did!
[02:56] <jussi01> venik, what did it do?
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol
[02:57] <paradroid> tkp: There is a very nice how-to for the upgrading process here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrading-ubuntu-from-dapper-to-edgy-with-update-manager/
[02:57] <tkp> and yes, I did run the check for updates
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> crdlb: have a nice nap?
[02:57] <venik> it messed around with the restricted modules of the kernel, and in the end I have no access to the NVIDIA settings
[02:57] <crdlb> IndyGunFreak, yes
[02:57] <tkp> paradroid: I know.... Thats' what I'm following
[02:57] <soundray> tkp: have you updated ubuntu-desktop as well?
[02:57] <paradroid> tkp: Oh. Sorry.
[02:57] <kdrlx> coming over from ArchLinux and happy with ubuntu on laptop .. everything works .. hibernate, suspend everything .. this is nice
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> kdrlx: give it time,. something will break. :)
[02:58] <venik> I am even thinking of reinstalling Ubuntu, but perhaps it is best to wait for the next version
[02:58] <kdrlx> i hope not :) but then again .. arch taught me too much ... :)
[02:58] <jussi01> venik, if you can, wait
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> venik: next version isn't due till july i think
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> or maybe april
[02:58] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: April
[02:58] <tkp> I can't install ubuntu-desktop... broken packages
[02:58] <paradroid> IndyGunFreak: 19.04.