[19:12] <odder7> erre-or: I haven't installed anything recently
[19:12] <erUSUL> !empathy | Dougal
[19:12] <yoshx> hello
[19:12] <odder7> errr-or: the recovery mode shows BusyBox, too
[19:12] <NET||abuse> is there a repo to get the latest 64bit builds of flash player for ubuntu?
[19:12] <erUSUL> odder7: any error msg before you are dropped to busybox ?
[19:13] <odder7> Dr_Willis: nothing.
[19:13]  * Dougal heads off to read all about empathy then...
[19:13] <NET||abuse> i'm wondering if the 32bit  being used through 32bit wrappers in 64bit linux is a problem.. so i was thinking of using the native 64bit version of linux.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> NET||abuse:  i use the 32bit here just fine for stuff i do.
[19:14] <knoxville_> What program is used to add the Applications when you right click your desktop?
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> NET||abuse:  ive heard some people trying the 64bit beta versions also with mixxed success
[19:14] <NET||abuse> Dr_Willis, i'm getting all sorts of annoyances,, it keeps not letting me click anything in flash.
[19:14] <odder7> erUSUL: only "Gave up waiting for root device"
[19:14] <NET||abuse> though this has only started since i updated to karmic
[19:15] <odder7> erUSUL: and "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid-weird-numbers-here does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[19:15] <EasyTUX> knoxville_: xfce4-appfinder and drag and drop ain't bad...
[19:15] <errr-or> NET||abuse: i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and every flash i have to click into works very well.
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> NET||abuse:  ive seen some web sites that give a fix for that. Ive never tried them
[19:15] <erUSUL> odder7: if you do « ctrl + d» does it continue to boot ?
[19:16] <jak> @odder i now tryed somethings it seems its an error while mounting and after that many processes time out im currently reinstalling
[19:17] <odder7> erUSUL: when the white ubuntu logo vanishes and I press ctrl+d, nothing happens
[19:17] <Huldabir> hello
[19:17] <Huldabir> does anyone found a idea for mounting ext4 in windows seven?
[19:18] <odder7> erUSUL: but I have noticed a weird thing with my Grub -- the menu shows up by default and before the problem it used to pick the default kernel by itself
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> Huldabir:  may or may not be doable.
[19:18] <erUSUL> odder7: no when you are in the busybox shell. press crtl + d
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> !ifs | Huldabir
[19:18] <Halitech> odder7, have you removed any hard drives recently?
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm what is that factoid..
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> !ext2
[19:18] <Halitech> !ext2fs
[19:18] <Huldabir> !wiki ifs
[19:18] <Huldabir> ?
[19:18] <odder7> erUSUL: what is more, I have encountered this problem after freezing my laptop (but freezing used to work before)
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Huldabir:  theres several tools that let you do ext2/3 in windows - they may or may not be updated to win7/ext4 at this time
[19:19] <llutz> Dr_Willis: looking for fs-driver.org?
[19:19] <amy_> how do i delete cookies?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Huldabir:  see ^^^^ above url
[19:19] <odder7> Halitech: no, I haven't and I haven't installed any new programs recently (no updates, for instance, too)
[19:19] <amy_> and browsing history
[19:19] <amy_> passwords etc
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> I think firefox has some settings/buttons for that amy_ .
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> check the security tab?
[19:19] <Halitech> odder7, hmmmm maybe check the BIOS and see if anything is missing?
[19:19] <odder7> erUSUL: the prompt shows again, nothing happens
[19:19] <trism> amy_: Tools/Clear Recent History in firefox
[19:20] <Halitech> amy_, Tools - Clear Private Data
[19:20] <errr-or> Huldabir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 --> backward compatibility. should be mountable as ext3 as long it doesnt extent
[19:20] <Huldabir> Dr_Willis: thank you
[19:20] <erUSUL> amy_: everything including bookmarks ? of firefox ? clean start ? rm -r ~/.mozilla/
[19:20] <Huldabir> i will test it
[19:20] <amy_> thank you
[19:20] <Byte> No thank you, no nothing. Some people should be shot.
[19:20] <odder7> Halitech: I haven't changed anything and it worked before freezing my sys
[19:20] <Halitech> odder7, just because it worked before doesn't mean something didn't happen when you hibernated your system
[19:21] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[19:21] <Huldabir> hi
[19:21] <ironfoot495> Hello is there a way to get in to the /master boot record on xubuntu 9.10, because it's not working?
[19:21] <erUSUL> odder7: maybe you can try a few bootoptions « noresume » for instance (you said it happened after a suspend)
[19:21] <jacquesdupontd> i dont know how comes we can't use webcam microphone in
[19:21] <jacquesdupontd> 9.10
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  what do you plan on doing with it once you get 'into' it ?
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | ironfoot495
[19:21] <odder7> Halitech: I have checked my BIOS and cant see any changes
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | ironfoot495
[19:22] <ironfoot495> yes fixgrub!!!
[19:22] <odder7> Halitech: boot options are fine and so on
[19:22] <jacquesdupontd> everything is working , the webcam too, dkupd,spdp
[19:22] <syntac> hi, on 9.04 I encrypted a file and it was saved as a .pgp extension. now i'm on 9.10 and when i try to decrypt my file, no program is associated with it. how can I decrypt the file?
[19:22] <ironfoot495> thanks!
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> !pgp
[19:23] <syntac> Dr_Willis: i have already looked at that. i have seahorse but i am not sure how to decrypt the file (all it seems to do is manage keys)
[19:23] <Halitech> odder7, do you have the option to redetect drives to make sure they are actually being seen?
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> syntac:  thats about all i know on the topic.
[19:23] <bthornton> How do I enable/disable services (i.e. Apache, OpenSSH, etc.) in Karmic? There used to be a way to do it graphically, pre Karmic...
[19:23] <aaronius> ok, so I'm having a bit of trouble with a Karmic system.  Every time the display shuts off for power saving, the network adapter loses it's IP address, but comes back alive with the display
[19:23] <erUSUL> !boot | bthornton
[19:23] <^c|0ud^> Do I have to reinstall ubuntu if I want to add additional free space for my /dev/sda5 I deleted a ntfs partition my hard drive?
[19:24] <syntac> Dr_Willis: it says it integrates with nautilus, any idea why the .pgp extension isn't registered?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  many services are converted to using Upstart now. edit/move/remove the /etc/init/* scripts for those services
[19:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I downloaded the firefox zip file and unziped it and now I have the firefox folder on my desktop....... there is no read me file on how to install... does anyone know how?
[19:24] <knoxville_> Is there any irc client out there, I can make transparent
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  some are still using the sysv init system. those you can use bum, or the rc update tools
[19:24] <aaronius> is this something that is a power saving feature, or is there some other reason that the network stack would seem to shut off with the monitor power feature?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  yes. xchat can do that. or use one in a terminal and make the terminal transparent. : )
[19:24] <syntac> knoxville_: xchat or use a console client and make your terminal transparent. or use compiz
[19:25] <bthornton> wow...
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  with compiz you can make anything trasluent  but i dont use that feature
[19:25] <pepee> ot: what means "unassailable" ?
[19:25] <knoxville_> Dr_Willis Where do i make it transparent? I got xchat
[19:25] <erUSUL> knoxville_: i use irssi on a transparent gnome-terminal (thanks to compiz) ;D
[19:25] <bthornton> so, in terms of being able to control my services graphically, that is no longer possile?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  check its menus. its a setting somewhere.. or use the compiz features for true 'transparency'
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  its a work in progress i hear.
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  for sysv services the old tools work.. for upstart based ones.. not seen a gui yet.
[19:26] <ageeb> is this normal memory  usage?! http://imagebin.org/72017 - http://imagebin.org/72018
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  the upstart ones are just single *.conf files in /etc/init
[19:26] <bthornton> (kinda like how I have to install another program to get playback through line-in now)
[19:27] <xikteny> bthornton, Does seem like a regression, doesn't it...
[19:27] <bthornton> yeah, I knew there was a changeover to Upstart; I'm just surprised Karmic was released with these thing smissing
[19:27] <odder3> hm... the noresume option didn't work
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> Upstart is a work in progress.. and 9.10 is making a big push to get most all services to use upstart. i imagine by the next release ALL the services will be using upstart
[19:27] <pepee> sensors command is not showing fan rpm's, voltages
[19:27] <pepee> what can I do?
[19:28] <bthornton> xikteny: yep, it is.
[19:28] <diffra> pepee, have you run sudo sensors-detect
[19:28] <erUSUL> ageeb: short answer: " yes it's normal; its used for file cache. Free ram == wasted ram »
[19:28] <aaronius> would Upstart control the disabling of my network adapter when the display is put to sleep?
[19:28] <pepee> diffra, yes, of couse
[19:28] <pepee> *course
[19:28] <pepee> diffra, it was working on jaunty
[19:28] <Dr_Willis>   from what i read of the upstart specs. they still havent decided on the proper way to  set up disabling the things :) other then moving the script out of /etc/init
[19:28] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[19:28] <pepee> i think is because sensors3
[19:28] <DarrenTod>  :)
[19:28] <bthornton> Dr_Willis: You wouldn't happen to know if there's any real effort in getting these services controlled by a graphical front-end, would you? I know there are plenty of people happy changing this stuff in config files, but I'm not one of them. :p
[19:29] <pepee> or maybe the options I put in grub..
[19:29] <Dr_Willis>   bthornton   theres not mych TO change.. move the file out of /etc/init  and its disabled..
[19:29] <bthornton> and by "real effort", I mean an actual project that has a name and source repository
[19:29] <ageeb> erUSUL::  ty... will it swap it out for foreground apps as necessary or turn to swap partition next?
[19:29] <ironfoot495> DR_willis hi uhh ! Iwant to use the info that was just given to me but right now I can't get the system to even boot. Can you help me recover the system ?
[19:29] <bthornton> ah
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> bthornton: ive not noticed or heard of any gui. i imagine its being worked on.
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> ironfoot495:  proberly not - its my bed time. I will be going to ZZZzzz in about 5 min.
[19:29] <reeher> Grr.. hate when work gets in the way of life..  anyway.. understanding that 9.10 does not write an xorg.conf, I need to have one because my monitor does not pass the EDID information to the OS, so xorg defaults to 800x600 w/ no way to set it manually.. So, is there a way to create an xorg.conf short of building it manually?
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> reeher:  what video card?
[19:30] <erUSUL> ageeb: no when needed linux will just drop disk cache
[19:30] <ironfoot495> is there anyone who could help me do this?
[19:30] <Tetracomm> I know that this is probably futile, but, does anyone know of any programs which can be used to design interactive web movies like Flash yet?
[19:30] <reeher> Dr_Willis: intel 82G33
[19:30] <erUSUL> ageeb: if that's not enough (rare with 4 GiB) then yes it would have to swap
[19:30] <ironfoot495> all I need is to get in then I can do the rest I guess!!!
[19:30] <knoxville_> Dr_Willis: I can't find that setting
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> reeher:  Hmm.. I dont have my intel box set up to get its xorg.conf for you. there may be some examples of them on the intel video forums/threads
[19:31] <t0rc> anyone having troubles with ubuntu karmic and wiimote connectivity?
[19:31] <reeher> Dr_Willis: Kk, cool enough.. I'll look about.
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  assume people on irc have a 3 min attention span.. What setting?
[19:31] <ageeb> erUSUL::  k, thanks again.
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> reeher:  or cheat and use a older live cd. :)
[19:31] <knoxville_> Dr_Willis: Making xchat transparent
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> reeher:  and copy its xorg.conf
[19:32] <astaticskyline> register schiller6
[19:32] <bthornton> Dr_Willis: thanks for the (sobering) info. :)
[19:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I downloaded the firefox zip file and unziped it and now I have the firefox folder on my desktop....... there is no read me file on how to install... does anyone know how?
[19:32] <reeher> Dr_Willis: now *that's* a good idea!
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  check the xchat homepage/docs I dont use that program any more and its not installed here for me to check
[19:32] <reeher> !beer Dr_Willis
[19:32] <aske> make
[19:32] <erUSUL> U-b-u-n-t-u: what are you trying to do ?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> reeher:  I had to use my old nvidia xorg.conf for 9.10 -  then nvidia tools dont like the  minimal xorg.conf either
[19:32] <skrite> knoxville_, you can make xchat transparent
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  also be sure you are using xchat.. NOT xchat-gnome
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  i imagone xchat-gnome has that and 1000000+ other features removed
[19:33] <aaronius> does anyone know about the network adapter shutting down when the display is put to sleep?  has anyone seen or heard about a similar issue on 9.10?
[19:33] <U-b-u-n-t-u> erUSUL, I downloaded the firefox zip from firefox and unziped it and now want to install it but there isnt a read me file on how
[19:33] <skrite> knoxville_, using xchat gnome or just xchat?
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  OR just use the compiz feature to make any window a selectable 'true' transparancy  (the best way)
[19:33] <erUSUL> U-b-u-n-t-u: firefox comes istalled by default in ubuntu. no need to install by hand
[19:34] <jacquesdupontd> please
[19:34] <aske> U-b-u-n-t-u, open a terminal and type "firefox"
[19:34] <jacquesdupontd> everybody has this problem with skype webcam microphone ?
[19:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> i uninstalled it because I had issues with some of the plugins and now want to reinstall
[19:34] <skrite> knoxville_, xchat is settings > preferences > text box  there are three sliders
[19:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> aske, ok
[19:34] <knoxville_> Dr_Willis: Where do I see if I'm using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[19:34] <erUSUL> U-b-u-n-t-u: use the ubuntu tolls to reinstall
[19:34] <erUSUL> !software | U-b-u-n-t-u
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  look in the help/about menu peraps?
[19:35] <skrite> knoxville_, help > about
[19:35] <unitedpotsmokers> U-b-u-n-t-u: why not u install firefox from synaptic manager? i think it easy
[19:35] <jacquesdupontd> everything is working perfectly except we can't set the microphone but the webcam and everything else is working
[19:35] <jacquesdupontd> i'm on a laptop
[19:35] <erUSUL> U-b-u-n-t-u: sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[19:35] <knoxville_> skrite: It just adds color..
[19:35] <harag> hello
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> compiz has the ccsm toom settong for "Opacity" - you can use to select how trasluent a given window can be.
[19:35] <knoxville_> Dr_willis: I'm using xchat, not xchat-gnome
[19:35] <jacquesdupontd> and it makes the second laptop that has this problels
[19:35] <skrite> knoxville_, no. slide them (all three) all the way over
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> knoxville_:  xchat uses fake transparency also i recall. you will just see your wallpaper. not stuff under the window.
[19:36] <jacquesdupontd> PLEASE
[19:36] <knoxville_> skrite: to the left or to the right?
[19:36] <TinoW> hi
[19:36] <aske> U-b-u-n-t-u, worked?
[19:36] <harag> I have a executable that I can run if i cd to its location but if I specify its path I get "No such file or directory" ..any ideas what am I doing wrong
[19:36] <skrite> all three all the way to right (255)
[19:36] <kermit> how do i stop the display from dimming if i dont type for 10 seconds?   jaunty didnt do this.
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> harag:  spelling mistane? whats the full path to it/command you are using?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> kermit:  theres a dim on idle setting I belive in the power saver settings
[19:37] <knoxville_> skrite: yeah, it shows my wallpaper then.. guess I have to open it through terminal..
[19:37] <harag> I use tab completion to fill in the path so no spelling mistake
[19:37] <kermit> Dr_Willis: thats off though
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> harag:  spaces in the name?
[19:38] <harag> /home/phil/lisp/clbuild/target/bin/sbcl
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> kermit:  i recall there being screen saver settings, then power saveing settings i had to twiddle with. other then that. no idea
[19:38] <TinoW> after Upgrade to 9.10 I can't switch user anymore - it seems keyboard and mouse are grabbed but unavailable for the login screen (so can't enter anything, move the mouse or switch to other screen) - how can I resolve that?
[19:38] <harag> Dr_Willis: nope
[19:38] <bthornton> I've changed the groups membership on a current logged-in user. Is it possible for this user to refresh his privileges without logging-out/logging back in?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  not very easially.
[19:38] <bthornton> cripes
[19:38] <sebsebseb> TinoW: many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10,  clean installing 9.10 should solve your issue, but there is probably also another way, but I don't know about that
[19:38] <bthornton> okay, gotta roll then. thanks again.
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> bthornton:  and any  way i know to sort of do it.. can cause even more issues.. You can 'xterm -ls' or 'ssh localhost' or 'login' to relogin to the user in a termianl and for that termianl the new groups should apply
[19:39] <TinoW> bthornton: you could get around this by starting as login shell if you want to use this group membership only for a few programs
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> never mind.. :)
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> lol
[19:39] <TinoW> sebsebseb: ugh
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> TinoW:  yep. and that can get.. confuseing heh
[19:39] <sebsebseb> TinoW: oh maybe it's GDM 2 that has gone all wrong on you
[19:40] <sebsebseb> TinoW: ,but if you install KDM and tell it to use that, things wil be ok maybe
[19:41] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I already extended /etc/dbus-1/system.d/xorg-server.conf since I saw an entry at the end of the Xorg.*.log and some googling pointed to this but its not resolving just that error does not appear in the log anymore
[19:41] <sebsebseb> TinoW: oh it's switching users, not log in?
[19:41] <aaronius> so is my network problem being ignored, or does nobody have an answer?
[19:41] <TinoW> sebsebseb: yes, switching users
[19:41] <sebsebseb> TinoW: switching users,  when already logged in to Ubuntu you mean?
[19:42] <TinoW> sebsebseb: yes exactly
[19:42] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I just went to snaptic package manager and installed firefox again and when I did it came up with a msg that said ubuntu modifications not compatible with firefox 3.5.6...... suggestions?
[19:42] <TinoW> sebsebseb: now I'm getting (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null) at the end of the Xorg.*.log for that new screen
[19:42] <erUSUL> aaronius: i would report it as a kernel bug
[19:42] <sebsebseb> TinoW: switching users on the top right?  on the panel?
[19:42] <aaronius> erusul: thanks
[19:42] <TinoW> sebsebseb: yes exactly
[19:43] <sebsebseb> TinoW: ok so  their edited fast user account switcher has messed up on you it seems, but that has nothing to do with xorg
[19:43] <TinoW> sebsebseb: really?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> TinoW: it's just an app for Gnome, if you remove it from the panel,  Lock Screen,  Log Out, and Shut Down, should appear in the system menu instead,  and that's also where they are meant to be according to upstream Gnome
[19:44] <NaN> Hey guys, I'm having a hard time setting memlock limits in ubuntu..
[19:44] <TinoW> sebsebseb: because it creates the screen and I see the gdm login there - including the mouse pointer. I just cannot input anything nor move the mouse
[19:44] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I just went to snaptic package manager and installed firefox again and when I did it came up with a msg that said ubuntu modifications 0.7 not compatible with firefox 3.5.6...... suggestions?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> TinoW: yes when  pressing log out,  it wil go back to the log in screen
[19:44] <NaN> i.e. I want ulimit -l set to unlimited
[19:44] <TinoW> sebsebseb: so I still belive there is somethign fishy with the context in which the Xorg server for the new screen is started
[19:45] <TinoW> sebsebseb: no it does not
[19:45] <sebsebseb> TinoW: no it does not, to what?
[19:45] <harag> Dr_Willis: never mind I am an idiot when i dont use the path it is using the default location for sbcl according to system path not the file in that directory that is why it works when I leave out the path but not when I specify the path
[19:45] <TinoW> sebsebseb: because "no input" really means I cannot press anything :)
[19:45] <sebsebseb> TinoW: you can  fix xorg  maybe in the recovery mode,  but also in the recovery mode you can get the root shell and  sudo apt-get install kdm  tell it to use that, and give that a try
[19:46] <sebsebseb> TinoW: that's  an alternative log in screen the KDE one
[19:46] <TinoW> sebsebseb: how would that help?
[19:47] <sebsebseb> TinoW: uhmm  maybe you weren't clear enough  when it came to your issue,  since  I am assuming things, that I thought you put, and then possible solutions to that
[19:47] <sebsebseb> TinoW: as for xorg, it runs  the graphical stuff, Gnome etc
[19:47] <lb_> hi! I am trying to ssh into a machine running a Hardy Live CD. In the local session, you do not have to use a password to do root stuff. How can I get in?
[19:48] <lb_> ssh server is already running. I just don't know the password :/
[19:48] <orion72> are there any options for installing sun-java6-jdk, sun-java6-jre, and sun-java6-bin *update 13, 16, or 17* using apt-get (i.e. not using the .bin packages directly from Sun)?
[19:48] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I know what Xorg does :)
[19:49] <David-T> lb_: I don't think you will be able to ssh in as root
[19:49] <sebsebseb> TinoW: also to log in to other accounts,  I assume a log in screen is needed?  or something like it?
[19:49] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I thought I
[19:49] <David-T> lb_: if you're got root access locally you could always add a user, though.
[19:49] <wrapster> i have a strange issue while installing ubuntu...
[19:49] <orion72> i've run into the Eclipse ignoring breakpoints issue using update 15 (it's in update 15 as well)
[19:50] <wrapster> after I donwloaded the iso and used it to boot I get this. "partition table invalid or corrupt"
[19:50] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I thought I was pretty precise: I switch user using the panel entry, new login screen appears (gnome) but mouse/keyboard aren't working there anymore. I can kill that X and return to the old screen w/o issues
[19:50] <TinoW> kill from ssh of course
[19:50] <lb_> David-T: the person I am trying to help is not very computer-literate and just started using ubuntu. :( She encountered this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8332017
[19:50] <wrapster> can anyone please help me
[19:50] <lb_> and doesn't speak English
[19:50] <sebsebseb> TinoW: kill from ssh?
[19:50] <TinoW> sebsebseb: login via ssh since keyboard not working of course
[19:50] <outoftime> is there a way to restrict the amount of network bandwidth a particular process can use?
[19:51] <sebsebseb> TinoW: it seems that your GDM 2 has gone wrong,  you could try KDM instead,  that might just work.  if not  you can of course go back to GDM 2
[19:51] <sebsebseb> TinoW: also your keyboard should work on Ubuntu really
[19:51] <orion72> wrapster: are you getting this on the boot screen? i.e. white text, black background?
[19:51] <stargate> How stable is the upgrade process to 9.10 from 9.04 via update manager? And how stable is the 9.10 release in general?
[19:52] <orion72> wrapster: if so, are you *sure* that it is booting from the CD and not trying to boot off the HDD in it's current state?
[19:52] <iceroot> stargate: never touch a running system
[19:52] <sebsebseb> stargate: If you hardware works good in 9.04,  not much point getting 9.10 to be honest
[19:52] <David-T> lb_: ah. sorry, not sure how to fix that remotely..
[19:52] <David-T> (or at all, really)
[19:52] <stargate> Haha, sounds good, thanks iceroot and sebsebseb :P
[19:52] <sebsebseb> stargate: Also there isn't really anything as such in 9.10 that is worth it really.   I suggest trying from a Live CD first
[19:52] <iceroot> stargate: its the most important sentence with a computer
[19:52] <TinoW> sebsebseb: funny. I logged out w/ current user. Stopped gdm, started again and now its freezing login screen for first user too
[19:53] <cyberkilla> Anybody use Tracker? How do I search for something? If I type "config" it brings up config.php files, but if I specifically type "config.php", the damned thing can't find anything.
[19:53] <sebsebseb> stargate: then you can decide if your going to put it on or not.    well to upgrade to 10.04 when that's ou from 9.04 you would have to go through 9.10.   Also many people have had issues after upgrading 9.04 to 9.10.
[19:53] <epinky> lb_ : I've heard reinstalling will do the trick
[19:53] <cyberkilla> What the heck is the trick to Tracker?:)
[19:53] <Darwin2038> 冬天到了，春天还会远吗
[19:53] <lb_> I'll tell her that
[19:53] <erUSUL> !cn | Darwin2038
[19:53] <wrapster> orion72: yeah
[19:53] <sebsebseb> TinoW: It might not help,  but then again on the other hand it might help a lot, but if your up for it, you could try KDM instead
[19:54] <sebsebseb> stargate: also check out the notes to find out about 9.10
[19:54] <orion72> wrapster: haha, yeah to which question?
[19:54] <sebsebseb> !notes |  stargate
[19:54] <Darwin2038> well, thanks :)
[19:54] <wrapster> very sure..
[19:54] <orion72> wrapster: very sure that you are booting off the CD?
[19:54] <orion72> wrapster: i asked two questions, so i don't know which you are responding too
[19:55] <wrapster> orion72: yeah that its not booting from HD its definitely the ISO
[19:55] <sebsebseb> TinoW: If you do a clean install of 9.10 things will probably work well
[19:55] <sebsebseb> TinoW: well maybe not
[19:55] <orion72> wrapster: and when booting from the ISO, the first thing it does is report the partition table error?
[19:55] <wrapster> orion72: sorry for the confusion.
[19:55] <jrib> diffra: what you pastebinned had "1280$"
[19:55] <wrapster> yeah.
[19:55] <TinoW> sebsebseb: kdm doesn't work either... thats going weird now
[19:55] <stargate> I figured 9.10 had all their new cloud software, so it was worth messing around with, but I definitely appreciate all of the advice.   Am reading the literature at the moment.  Thanks, sebseseb
[19:55] <sebsebseb> TinoW: hmm
[19:56] <sebsebseb> TinoW: and everything worked in 9.04?  which graphics card?
[19:56] <Luyang> Hi guys
[19:56] <orion72> wrapster: do you have an existing OS installation on that HDD (e.g Windows)
[19:56] <Luyang> is there an easy way to run Ubuntu inside Windows 7, like a virtual machine?
[19:56] <sebsebseb> stargate: yes it has Ubuntu One client
[19:56] <wrapster> orion72: no I just created the HD ,
[19:56] <sebsebseb> stargate: which can also be installed into 9.04
[19:56] <TinoW> sebsebseb: yes it did and its annvidia card
[19:57] <Luyang> I wanna run a virtual Ubuntu in Windows 7. I wanna join you guys. Just tell me how and I'll do it.
[19:57] <TinoW> Luyang: in a virtual machine it works
[19:57] <orion72> orion72: what error do you get when you try and boot the machine if you take the ubuntu iso out?
[19:57] <sebsebseb> TinoW: ok well  things should be good in 9.10, but many people got issues after upgrading from 9.04,  I highly recommend that you do a clean install of 9.10 and try that
[19:57] <Luyang> TinoW: which virtual machine?
[19:57] <orion72> Luyang: the latest VMWare player lets you create a VM pretty easily. I suggest you download an ubuntu ISO and VMWare player
[19:58] <cyberkilla> Anybody use Tracker? How do I search for something? If I type "config" it brings up config.php files, but if I specifically type "config.php", the damned thing can't find anything.
[19:58] <Luyang> orion72: is it free? wmware?
[19:58] <diogo_79> hi guys
[19:58] <orion72> Luyang: yes
[19:58] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I'll rather not reinstall. We aren't windows, aren't we? :)
[19:58] <NaN> You know guys, I love how easy Ubuntu is for single-user cases, but using Ubuntu in a networked-environment is amazingly painful
[19:58] <sebsebseb> TinoW: sometimes  Linux distros should be re installed, plus if you re install you  should get Grub 2 and Ext4 without problems
[19:58] <wrapster> orion72: since its on virtualbox.. it says "no medium found"
[19:59] <NaN> Why isn't there a team working on making Ubuntu useful in a networked environment?
[19:59] <Halitech> TinoW, what about just purging gdm and all dependencies and reinstalling it?
[19:59] <beyossi> hi, having problems with booting ubuntu from USB dongle (assuming no hard-disk on my netbook) - any idea which chat to join?
[19:59] <TinoW> sebsebseb: I don't want ext4, I already got xfs :)
[19:59] <lb_> I guess there is no way to let Ubuntu go of a CD drive during a live session?
[19:59] <diogo_79> i am having a problem with ubuntu, sometimes it freezes and i have look in the logs and dont thing anything can some one point me to the right direction?
[19:59] <ikey> Pici, are you free a second please?
[19:59] <lb_> (to burn a newer version, for instance)
[19:59] <diogo_79> my ubuntu is 9.04 64 bits
[19:59] <TinoW> beyossi: what kind of problems?
[19:59] <orion72> wrapster: is this version 3.10 of virtual box?
[20:00] <NaN> GFDI, I can't set memlock limits no matter what I do in 9.10
[20:00] <sebsebseb> TinoW: also if you do an upgrade,  there is likely to be something from the old install that you no longer need that might cause a problem in the future.   Oh your using XFS,  how is it?  I  read that it can do the same stuff as Ext4 basicalley
[20:00] <wrapster> orion72: 3.06
[20:00] <max> buonasera
[20:00] <Luyang> THANKS this sounds awesome. WMWare+Ubuntu+Luyang = Three awesome musketeers!
[20:00] <outoftime> :q
[20:00] <TinoW> sebsebseb: yes its pretty fast and stable and I'm using it for much longer then ext4 even exists :)
[20:00] <outoftime> haha oops
[20:00] <Luyang> I got killed
[20:01] <wrapster> orion72: version 3.06
[20:01] <wrapster> orion72: sorry got cut out
[20:01] <sebsebseb> TinoW: yep it has had the Ext4 advantages most/all of them for well  quite a while now
[20:01] <Pici> ikey: Whats up?
[20:01] <ikey> Pici, May I PM you very quickly?
[20:01] <beyossi> TinoW: I installed the ubuntu 9.04 filesystem (from livecd) on my 4G dongle - but the system doesn't boot from it (I made the required change in the bios), saying "Operating Syatem not found"
[20:01] <Pici> ikey: anytime
[20:01] <cyberkilla> Nobody using Tracker? It's no surprise:P I can't get it to do anything useful: (
[20:01] <sebsebseb> TinoW: well I don't know how long XFS has been around.   If you don't want to just re install ok fair enough,  but as you may already know,  if you have a seperate home,  re installs of  Linux distros are easier
[20:02] <TinoW> beyossi: is it s apecial stick which simulates a floppy drive or something? This could get in the way
[20:02] <Dakara> Hello, I have been contemplating installing Ubuntu, but I need to know if I will still be able to use my Adobe programs. Can anyone help me?
[20:02] <mespejel> hello how was the commend to go to a certain area? cd what?
[20:02] <mespejel> i want to go to a file on desktop
[20:02] <mespejel> so i just do cd/desktop/name of file?
[20:02] <mespejel> i forgot
[20:02] <iceroot> mespejel: you cant access a file with cd
[20:03] <TinoW> sebsebseb: there is a lot configuration and packages which makes it harder to duplicate
[20:03] <sebsebseb> Dakara: Which Adobe programs?
[20:03] <mespejel> iceroot, what was the commend then?
[20:03] <iceroot> mespejel: cd = change directory
[20:03] <mespejel> ah i see
[20:03] <jrib> mespejel: why do you want to do this?
[20:03] <nino> hello guys
[20:03] <iceroot> mespejel: vi? cat? less?
[20:03] <Dakara> Illustrator, and Photoshop.
[20:03] <mespejel> jrib, im trying to install the nvidia drivers.. doing sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-190.42-pkg2.run
[20:03] <mespejel> but first i need to go the the location
[20:03] <mespejel> and then do that
[20:03] <mespejel> i guess
[20:03] <FloodBot1> mespejel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <jrib> !nvidia | mespejel
[20:03] <sebsebseb> Dakara: hmm how much RAM do you have?
[20:03] <mespejel> cause is not working just like that
[20:04] <jrib> mespejel: it is recommended you use the repositories
[20:04] <iceroot> mespejel: vi /dir/otherdir/file
[20:04] <Dakara> Hold on, let me check.
[20:04] <lb_> where is that menu.list file that grub uses?
[20:04] <jrib> lb_: grub or grub2?
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Dakara: Also  which versions?
[20:04] <mespejel> jrib, i know but is not working for me
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Dakara: of the programs
[20:04] <jrib> mespejel: then ask for help with *that*
[20:04] <VCoolio> lb_: in karmic grub is grub2 and is very different, read up on help.ubuntu.com
[20:05] <lb_> ok, will do
[20:05] <mespejel> i already ask before.. there was no solution.. and one guy told me to installed the one from the nvidia site
[20:05] <sebsebseb> Dakara: and what kind of stuff are you doing with them?
[20:05] <erUSUL> !grub2
[20:05] <jrib> mespejel: because if you install nvidia drivers that way, your X will be broken every time your kernel updates.
[20:05] <nino> guys where can i get some support
[20:05] <nino> ??
[20:05] <jrib> mespejel: of course there's a solution
[20:05] <jrib> nino: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:05] <iceroot> !ask | nino
[20:05] <Dakara> 2.0 GB
[20:05] <jrib> !grub2 > lb_
[20:06] <sebsebseb> Dakara: ok and in answer to my other questions?
[20:06] <lb_> thanks.
[20:06] <beyossi> TinoW: it is a usb disk-on-key, and it supposed to be my "disk" and no other storage is available. what do you meansimulating floppy drive?
[20:06] <Dakara> CS4
[20:07] <orion72> wrapster: i don't have much experience with virtualbox, soryr. However, that error message is grub error message (Error 5) to be exact
[20:07] <sebsebseb> Dakara: and what kind of stuff are your making with them?
[20:07] <orion72> wrapster: so i'm not exactly sure what introduced that problem or how you have to fix it, but might you start by looking there
[20:07] <nino> i am having some problem with the VGA driver
[20:07] <wrapster> orion72: yeah your right.. thats the error message
[20:07] <sebsebseb> Dakara: there are alternatives, but  might not be good enough for what you want.  Also there are ways to run those two inside Ubuntu, but not natively
[20:07] <mespejel> jrib, then what is that solution?
[20:07] <jrib> mespejel: you haven't stated the problem.
[20:07] <iceroot> nino: please ask a real ad detailed question to the channel
[20:07] <TinoW> beyossi: some USB sticks have a special boot mode where they simulate an usb connected floppy drive with part of the space. In this case you would have to write the boot image to that virtual floppy drive instead
[20:07] <nino> im using dell 1535
[20:07] <cyberkilla> How do I search for something? If I type "config" it brings up config.php files, but if I specifically type "config.php", the damned thing can't find anything.
[20:07] <wrapster> orion72: could you tell me where I can look for more info pls.
[20:08] <Halitech> nino, what video card ?
[20:08] <cyberkilla> *With Tracker
[20:08] <iceroot> cyberkilla: locate
[20:08] <Dakara> Well, I am doing an online course which requires CS4 so I guess Ubuntu isn't right for me at this time.
[20:08] <nino> GM965
[20:08] <Dakara> Thank you anyways.
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Dakara: hang on
[20:08] <Dakara> Alright, hanging on.
[20:08] <nino> intel integrated graphics
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Dakara: well you can try and get working in Wine
[20:08] <Halitech> !intel | nino
[20:08] <FishEee> anyway ever install the netbook remix? having issues booting from usb
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Dakara: or if you got say an XP CD, you could try them in a Windows virtual machine
[20:08] <cyberkilla> iceroot: Sorry, I mean't with Tracker. I can't get it to return useful results. It is indexed, I just don't know the query syntax. It isn't easily discoverable
[20:08] <MarderIII> beyossi: some models (U3 comes to mind) can be reformatted.
[20:08] <sebsebseb> Dakara: or just dual boot WIndows for those two, and do your other computer tasks on Ubuntu?
[20:09] <mespejel> jrib, well i go to the hardware drivers section.. im not able to install again the nvidia drivers again.. o install them before and i remove them.. dont ask me why.. and now i want to install them again, but is not letting me
[20:09] <iceroot> cyberkilla: sorry never heard of "tracker"
[20:09] <gnufreex> Dakara: Which OS do you curently use?
[20:09] <jak> AFTER the Message "Checking battery state..." the boot hangs HELP?
[20:09] <TinoW> sebsebseb: apt-get upgrade && reboot solved the issue aparently ;)
[20:09] <cyberkilla> iceroot: Okay, no problem. Thanks anyway.
[20:09] <Dakara> XP, Windows.
[20:09] <Snausages> FishEee: I've done it, it worked great on mine
[20:09] <sebsebseb> TinoW: good
[20:09] <jrib> mespejel: why do you want to install them *again*?  This means they are already installed then?
[20:09] <Snausages> FishEee: where is it breaking for you?
[20:09] <WizzKidd> hi folks. im running my distro within virtualbox... i've recently updated my kernel to <IP_ADDRESS>, and had to download the sources and prepare modules so that i could compile the virtual box additions - i managed to do that fine and noe vbox additionsworks perfectly with the new kernel.  I dont seem to have the "vboxdrv", does anyone know what im talking about? lol
[20:09] <cyberkilla> iceroot: I suppose I should just give up. There is a reason they took it out of the default ubuntu install. It's impossible to figure out what to do with it.
[20:09] <gnufreex> Ok, nevermind. I was thinking Mac
[20:10] <jak> AFTER the Message "Checking battery state..." the boot hangs HELP?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> !wine |  Dakara
[20:10] <FishEee> Snausages it isnt breaking just cant get it to boot form usb.. i have the boot order right? am i susposed to put it on usb a special way?
[20:10] <mespejel> jrib, i mean a install them before.. and i remove them.. now i want to install them once again
[20:10] <wrapster> orion72: could you send that link pls
[20:10] <guntbert> WizzKidd: in case you don't get useful answers here - there is #vbox too
[20:10] <npxx> hi
[20:10] <jrib> mespejel: what does hardware drivers say now?
[20:11] <sebsebseb> Dakara: and Virtualbox is a good program for running Windows inside  OS's such as Ubuntu.  There is an open source version in the Ubuntu repo download server that lacks USB support, and a closed source version that you can get from them that has it.  Both of which are free as in price.
[20:11] <WizzKidd> guntbert: thank u!
[20:11] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | Dakara
[20:11] <user> oO
[20:11] <jak> AFTER the Message "Checking battery state..." the boot hangs HELP?
[20:11] <Snausages> FishEee: yeah, you need to put that image file on the usb disk in a very particular way, did you follow those directions?
[20:11] <nino> any solution for my problem ( using intel GM965 integrated graphics ) while playing a video the system logs out
[20:11] <user> hey
[20:11] <nowik800> xcsags
[20:11] <FishEee> which ones
[20:12] <sebsebseb> Dakara: I don't know how well Photoshop CS4 and Ilusster will work in Wine if at all really, and maybe it's not the best idea to rely on a Windows virtual machine for them either.
[20:12] <lb_> Okay, I ought to be dealing with grub 1 and I'm in the menu.lst file. (I managed to set up a vnc connection.)
[20:12] <sebsebseb> Dakara: WIndows and Ubuntu dual boots are easy to set up though, if you want to do that
[20:12] <FishEee> Snausages is kubuntu and ubuntu netbook remix same thing?
[20:12] <beyossi> TinoW: When browsing this stick into my ubuntu host then I see the entire file system installed on it, so I guess it is not the issue, isn't it?
[20:12] <mespejel> now is saying that is not activated
[20:12] <guntbert> WizzKidd: np and Good luck :-)
[20:13] <MarderIII> FishEee: tried unetbootin?
[20:13] <orion72> wrapster: the virtualbox forums, #vbox on freenode, and googling for: "partition table invalid or corrupt" virtual box
[20:13] <Dakara> Thanks Sebsebseb.
[20:13] <gnufreex> Dakara: There is Crossover too. It is like better Wine, But I am not sure it is free.
[20:13] <FishEee> MarderIII no idea what that is hold on
[20:13] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Dakara
[20:13] <mespejel> jrib, its saying that is not activated
[20:13] <mespejel> this driver is not activated
[20:13] <jrib> mespejel: does it say it is installed?
[20:13] <MarderIII> FishEee: sry.. unetbootin is program to put iso images to usbstick
[20:13] <sivan> anybody knows why traceroute doesn't show anything but stars anymore on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[20:13] <zack_> does anyone know how to hide usernames from the new login screen?
[20:13] <Dakara> I have to go, thanks for your help you two.
[20:13] <sivan> (I actually tested it on 8.04 and 8.10 as well)
[20:14] <mespejel> jrib, it does not say that. it just say is not activated.. and i know that because i cant use compiz
[20:14] <Snausages> FishEee: this should help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:14] <jrib> mespejel: what version of ubuntu and what card?
[20:14] <zack_> Displaying 20~ users on the login screen, some of which are supposed to be hidden and a few of which are remote only users is NOT ideal
[20:14] <mespejel> jrib, koala and geforce 9600m gt
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> sivan: does it happen to all destinations?
[20:14] <sivan> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:14] <jrib> mespejel: pastebin: aptitude search '~i~nnvidia'
[20:15] <FishEee> Snausages thats what i tried let me look through it agai
[20:15] <zack_> Its a security risk and an annoyance, how do you configure this?
[20:15] <sivan> ActionParsnip: does not really matter which one I try to traceroute ot
[20:15] <ralchev> hey guys
[20:15] <ralchev> hi kostkon
[20:15] <Snausages> FishEee: if you downloaded a .img file, use these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> sivan: maybe your ISP is blocking ICMP
[20:16] <sivan> ActionParsnip: does it work for you on 9.10 ?
[20:16] <ralchev> I have a problem... my Toshiba notebook won't start after I close and open it :S black screen
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> sivan: just tested, works ok
[20:16] <npxx> hi
[20:16] <mespejel> jrib, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m14ec5fc3
[20:17] <sivan> ActionParsnip: odd
[20:17] <sivan> ActionParsnip: I even set the residential gateway to allow everything. How odd
[20:17] <sivan> ActionParsnip: and it worked 2 days a go
[20:17] <sivan> it suddenly stopped working
[20:17] <mikc> Is it possible in KDE 4.3.3 to make the NFS fstab entries appear in the left panel of Dolphin?
[20:18] <Luyang> How does clustering work?
[20:18] <jrib> mespejel: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glix-185
[20:18] <Luyang> Say I have to servers running and I want them to be clustered
[20:18] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu
[20:18] <nino> hi
[20:18] <ralchev> any ideas how to fix it?
[20:18] <npxx> help me pls
[20:18] <nino> long live ubuntu
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> sivan: could try removing then adding the app, but if your ISP is blocking ICMP you wont get the messages
[20:18] <jrib> mespejel: sorry, typo: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-185
[20:18] <kermit> zack_: traceroute works for me, maybe your firewall changed
[20:18] <ikey> Why not use jockey?
[20:19] <ikey> Or envy?
[20:19] <ikey> Much easier imo
[20:19] <Halitech> !envy | ikey
[20:19] <ikey> Why you telling me that?
[20:19] <ikey> I don't need to know
[20:19] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu ı need help
[20:19] <Halitech> ikey, because you suggested it
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> ikey: a single apt-get command is so much easier than any gui app
[20:20] <ikey> ActionParsnip, that's making the assumption the user is comfortable with the terminal
[20:20] <mespejel> jrib, No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[20:20] <ikey> But yeah, its easier
[20:20] <jrib> mespejel: sorry, typo: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-185
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> ikey: well if the user is asking in irc and a user whom is comfortable with the command advises it, i'd use it
[20:20] <Halitech> ActionParsnip, would you consider envy just a step above automatix in the damage it can do?
[20:20] <mespejel> jrib, yes i know. i did that one
[20:21] <jrib> mespejel: pastebin everything including your command
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Halitech: i dont advise envy ever, its ghastly
[20:21] <mespejel> jrib, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:21] <ikey> I've only seen envy do damage when the user doesn't know what they're doing
[20:21] <Halitech> ActionParsnip, nor do I
[20:21] <ikey> i.e. trying to install the ati driver on an old chipset
[20:21] <mikc> npxx : do you see things in /dev/dvb/ ??
[20:21]  * Luyang had to register to download VMWare player
[20:21] <mespejel> jrib, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m513e0dfe
[20:22] <jrib> mespejel: aren't you using karmic?
[20:22] <jrib> !info nvidia-glx-185
[20:22] <npxx> ı see but not have dev/dvb
[20:22] <npxx> mikc
[20:23] <mespejel> jrib, yes im using karmic
[20:23] <fornhort> gimp
[20:23] <fornhort> sry
[20:23] <jrib> mespejel: run "sudo aptitude update" and try again.  If it still fails, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list*
[20:23] <bostrt> hi...i am getting a lot of attempts for someone trying to send me a file called BOUCEATTACK.TXT from this channel...what is that?
[20:24] <bostrt> it doesn't sound good
[20:24] <Flannel> bostrt: Just ignore it
[20:24] <bostrt> Flannel: it seems a few were sucessful
[20:24] <sivan> so it is sure that my ISP is blocking ICMP ?
[20:24] <sivan> it seems unlikely
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> sivan: my guess
[20:24] <ikey> bostrt, /IGNORE ALL hostmask
[20:24] <ikey> consult /WHOIS to get the hostmask
[20:24] <mespejel> jrib, same result
[20:25] <UBUNTULINUXMAN> HI GUYS
[20:25] <UBUNTULINUXMAN> WHATS UP
[20:25] <ikey> Dont shout
[20:25] <jrib> mespejel: so pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list*
[20:25] <jrib> !caps | UBUNTULINUXMAN
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> UBUNTULINUXMAN: capitals is what's up
[20:25] <kronix> UBUNTULINUXMAN: do you like Ubuntu Linux
[20:25] <kronix> Rizwan-DHAKA: Sylhet > Dhaka
[20:26] <npxx> mikc
[20:26] <Luyang> can people have a tolower() script in mirc in order to sound-level the talk in the chans
[20:26] <mespejel> jrib, permission denied
[20:26] <guntbert> kronix: wrong channel?
[20:26] <jrib> mespejel: what did you type...?
[20:26] <ikey> eww @ mirc
[20:26] <jrib> mespejel: please stop being so vague
[20:26] <cyberkilla> Tracker users? Anyone? I need a quick bit of help.
[20:26] <mespejel> jrib, /etc/apt/sources.list*
[20:26] <kronix> Are we being flooded?
[20:26] <jrib> cyberkilla: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:26] <TacoTown> shhhh no you're not
[20:26] <jrib> mespejel: open them in a text editor, copy the contents, and put them in paste.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <kronix> I believe we are.
[20:27] <Guest15549> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 upgraded from 7.10. I want to make the input I get from pulseaudio the default but it doesn't work
[20:27] <guntbert> !ot | kronix
[20:27] <cyberkilla> jrib: I've already tried that, twice. I didn't want to flood the channel.
[20:27] <kronix> !ot | guntbert
[20:27] <Thundercross> *WB(travis)WB* - <+Travis> Wait... Thundercross actually chats? You mean he isn't just a bot that says something clever whenever Zips joins the chat?
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Luyang: mirc is a windows app, i'd ask in ##windows
[20:27] <alazyworkaholic> I sadly don't know how to mount the hard drive (/dev/sda) with xubuntu livecd when it's not visible in "Places". How can I mount it with the terminal (or other easier way?)
[20:27] <jrib> kronix: do not abuse the bot please.  Stay on the topic of ubuntu support here
[20:28] <Ubuntu> .
[20:28] <jrib> alazyworkaholic: sudo mkdir /media/somemountpoint && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/somemountpoint    probably
[20:28] <ikey> whoops..
[20:28] <Jevgeniy> Hi, How do I set custom GNOME Splash Screen in Ubuntu 9.10? Standard GNOME method (GConf -> /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image) doesn't work. I have also tried gnome-splashscreen-manager and removing xsplash, but it didn't help - the splash just doesn't show up.
[20:28] <Luyang> ActionParsnip: I just wanted to censor the all-caps guy, no worries
[20:28] <jrib> Thundercross: are you a bot?
[20:28] <weed^cocaine> heys guys
[20:28] <weed^cocaine> i need help
[20:28] <TacoTown> me too
[20:28] <guntbert> !ask
[20:28] <mespejel> jrib, how do i open them with a text editor? you mean with gedit?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> !ask | weed^cocaine
[20:28] <Guest15549> Starting Programs->Sound and Video->Recording Level Monitor shows microphone activity but trying to record using Programs->Sound and Video->Sound Recorder doesn't work, can anyone help?
[20:29] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu ı need help
[20:29] <jrib> mespejel: sure
[20:29] <jrib> weed^cocaine: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:29] <weed^cocaine> i am trying to use my screen instead of using my laptop screen
[20:29] <weed^cocaine> ok sorry
[20:29] <mespejel> jrib, i have no idea how to open that with a text editor
[20:29] <kronix> jrib: Stay on the topic of ubuntu support here. Asking people if they're bots has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[20:30] <sdsdsd> is there a way to use Ubuntu-one on Debian?
[20:30] <weed^cocaine> jrib: i am trying to use a flat screen instead of laptop screen
[20:30] <jrib> mespejel: open gedit, file -> open
[20:30] <weed^cocaine> i bought the pluggin wires and everything
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> !debian | sdsdsd
[20:30] <jrib> weed^cocaine: what card?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: ok not a useful factoid
[20:31] <weed^cocaine> card?
[20:31] <TacoTown> credit card
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: ask in #debian this is ubuntu support
[20:31] <jrib> sdsdsd: you might ask #debian how to install the ubuntu-one client properly
[20:31] <jrib> weed^cocaine: video card
[20:31] <weed^cocaine> 256 m
 i gone here, they told me to come here
[20:31] <tryggvib> How can I make pulseaudio the default sound card for input?
[20:31] <guntbert> TacoTown: please keep helpful
[20:32] <jrib> weed^cocaine: erm, nvidia? intel? ..>?
[20:32] <weed^cocaine> i got intel atom
[20:32] <zilla1> I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and now I can't access my floppy drive when I navigate to it through nautilus. I can mount it via the command prompt, and can access everything. When I right click on it and select "properties" everything comes up unknown. Where do I go to reset those entries?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: its an ubuntu product, true. But its still wanting to be installed on a debian system, not an ubuntu system
[20:32] <tryggvib> System->Preferences->Sound doesn't work
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: tell them that, there may be a method, but we are unsure as your OS is debian
[20:32] <jrib> sdsdsd: I'm in #debian and you aren't in my scrollback
 i know about ubuntu and Debian Relationship, i junt want to know about a easy package to install it all
[20:33] <weed^cocaine> jrib?
[20:33] <weed^cocaine> any idea's?
[20:33] <sdsdsd> jrib look channel history
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: no idea, its debian
[20:33] <mespejel> jrib, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m358c8a1f
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: its simple in ubuntu but ubuntu isnt debian
[20:33] <jrib> mespejel: go to system -> administration -> software sources and enable the "restricted" repositories
 i can download all packages and install it all... but it will give-me nome work
[20:34] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu ı need help
[20:34] <weed^cocaine> jrib???
[20:34] <benwa_> is it possible to get the packages from commercial and medibuntu depositories with a power pc?
[20:34] <jrib> weed^cocaine: be patient please
[20:34] <sdsdsd> <ActionParsnip some work...
[20:34] <sdsdsd> well thanks
[20:34] <weed^cocaine> ok sry
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> sdsdsd: if they are debian debs it will work, ubuntu debs shouldnt be used on debian and vice versa
[20:34] <FFEMTcJ> I just installed 9.10 64bit.. My system has 4gb ram, however free -m is only showing 3270 total.. Why?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> FFEMTcJ: you have installed 32bit
 will work.. everytime works
[20:35] <jrib> sdsdsd: just add the -src repos from ubuntu and tell apt to bulid the package from source
[20:35] <FFEMTcJ> ActionParsnip: Linux ethan 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> FFEMTcJ: you can install the server kernel to get PAE in the kernel
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> FFEMTcJ: ah, strange]
[20:36] <FFEMTcJ> ActionParsnip: any idea?
[20:36] <DeeTah> how to install kubuntu netbook edition using PXE?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> FFEMTcJ: i'd try the server kernel, just to test. Can always remove it
[20:36] <FFEMTcJ> how would i do that ActionParsnip ?
[20:36] <snoopy> is there a way to downgrade from 9.1 to 9.0?
[20:36] <weed^cocaine> jrib u there?
[20:36] <jrib> weed^cocaine: yes...
[20:37] <Halitech> snoopy, yes, reinstall
[20:37] <weed^cocaine> got any ideas ?
[20:37] <snoopy> Halitech,  any other way?
[20:37] <weed^cocaine> i am trying to use my flat screen
[20:37] <jrib> weed^cocaine: read about using xrandr on intel
[20:37] <weed^cocaine> instead of using my laptop's screen
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> FFEMTcJ: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-14-server
[20:37] <Halitech> snoopy, not that I would suggest someone else to try
[20:38] <mespejel> jrib, i did
[20:38] <jrib> mespejel: pastebin your new sources.list
[20:38] <snoopy> Halitech,  okay thanks
[20:38] <FFEMTcJ> thanks ActionParsnip
[20:38] <genii> !downgrade | snoopy
[20:38] <zilla1> weed^blow - plug in monitor. then go system > preferences > display, and detect monitors
[20:38] <weed^cocaine> i did that
[20:38] <weed^cocaine> no use
[20:39] <mespejel> jrib, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4856b64f
[20:40] <zilla1> you mean it didn't detect the other monitor, while it was connected?
[20:40] <jrib> mespejel: try jockey again
[20:40] <weed^cocaine> nope
[20:40] <weed^cocaine> i plugged everything
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> weed^cocaine: is it a crt?
[20:40] <weed^cocaine> but i keep hearing noisy sound every second
[20:40] <weed^cocaine> crt?
[20:41] <mespejel> jrib, what you mean with jockey?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> weed^cocaine: a crt monitor
[20:41] <jrib> mespejel: sorry, jockey is the name of Hardware Drivers
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> weed^cocaine: or is it a flatscreen?
[20:41] <weed^cocaine> its a t.v monitor
[20:41] <Ddorda0> where can I download the ISO file of Jaunty UNR?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> weed^cocaine: like this: http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/17%20CRT%20Monitor_558.jpg   ?
[20:42] <paul92_> hi (sorry for my bad English) I've a problem with Xorg on a new Kubuntu Karmic installation
[20:42] <monga> hey guys does ubuntu server support "auto backup" for data to remote servers?
[20:42] <weed^cocaine> nope
[20:42] <weed^cocaine> its a t.v
[20:42] <jrib> !backups | monga
[20:42] <weed^cocaine> normal monitor
[20:43] <monga> hmm those backups were not what i was looking for. I wanted something similar to apples Time Capsule
[20:43] <paul92_> i 've nvidia drivers, and i 've also used vesa but when i boot i 've a black screen
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda0: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[20:44] <zilla1> is there an option somewhere in the install disk to put GRUB in its own separate partition? I'm dual booting, and I don't want to have my boot loader wiped if i decide to wipe the OS
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> zilla1: you'll need the alternate CD, it allows you to specify the location of the grub install
[20:44] <jrib> zilla1: there used to be an "advanced" button on the gui installer but I haven't checked in karmic
[20:45] <mespejel> jrib, thanks! working now.. i need to restart
[20:45] <jrib> mespejel: cool
[20:45] <mespejel> jrib, thx
[20:46] <server__> !rs
[20:46] <server__> !sr
[20:46] <dastrove> hi! does anyone know if ubuntu can work with a Motorola Q9c phone as a tethered modem???
[20:46] <Ddorda0> ActionParsnip: it's an IMG file, not an ISO, how can I flash it on the drive?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda0: use the dd command
[20:47] <Ddorda0> just dd the img to the drive?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda0: you can use dd to put it on a usb stick then install from it
[20:47] <sakuramboo> how do i remove wpa_supplicant from ubuntu? i kill the process but it comes right back
[20:47] <infid> will this bluetooth dongle work with ubuntu, does anayone have it here? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833242004&cm_re=usb_bluetooth_dongle-_-33-242-004-_-Product
[20:48] <infid> it says it supports 'linux'
[20:48] <Ddorda0> ActionParsnip: is there any guide for that?
[20:48] <FishEee> ravens fired  hauschka woot
[20:48] <oles> where is /etc/inittab ?????
[20:48] <infid> what's the number for 911
[20:48] <jrib> !upstart | oles
[20:48] <elintarvikevaeri> infid: i spose it would work on ubuntu
[20:48] <bradland> I'm working with rsyslog trying to set up some remote logging, but everything is dumping in to my /var/log/syslog file. I tried defining rules such as 'vqm.* /var/log/vqm.log', but I get an error stating: unknown facility name "vqm". I have a feeling I'm doing this all wrong. The syslog messages are being forwarded from a remote host.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda0: could use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-netbook-remix-install/
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Ddorda0: or: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[20:49] <Ddorda0> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot :D
[20:49] <Infin1ty> i'm having problems setting my cpufreq to set 2.40GHz it's just wont let me, this is really starting to annoy me, at first i could use the gnome applet to do it, now even cpufreq-set wont respond
[20:49] <napsy> Hello. How can I remove a packet and all it's dependencies?
[20:49] <dbdii407> Guys, my xubuntu will not boot. We just went threw a power outage
[20:50] <guntbert> bradland: the rules should state the hostname - like +hostname, please see http://kwlug.org/files/2009-08-10-syslog-servers.pdf
[20:50] <Robs1> Hi everybody. Can somebody help me with running Wi-Fi in 9.10 on Asus F5RL ?
[20:50] <Halitech> napsy, sudo apt-get remove --purge <Package name>
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> napsy: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[20:50] <olly> can anybody tell me how to mute my microphon with pulse audio in playback, but not in recording?
[20:50] <dbdii407> Anyone?
[20:50] <Claw6> kann mir mal jemand sagen ob das normal sein soll ? : http://imagebin.ca/view/FNufKr3w.html
[20:50] <Halitech> dbdii407, does it not turn on at all? stop at a certain point? what ???
[20:51] <jcrawford> wow Ubuntu is funny
[20:51] <napsy> Halitech: I'm trying to remove gstreamer ugly plugins but only the metapackage is removed
[20:51] <jcrawford> i just noticed something
[20:51] <bradland> guntbert: excellent link, thank you. I had a line defined with the hostname, but nothing was logged at all. I checked the hostname to make sure it resolved to the IP of the source, but I'm not clear on how rsyslog receives that information. Can I use +<IP_ADDRESS> (with an IP) instead of a hostname?
[20:51] <jcrawford> i have been using a bluetooth keyboard and mouse for weeks now, yet when i just opened the bluetooth prefs it says no bluetooth adapter found
[20:51] <jrib> !de | Claw6
[20:51] <jcrawford> really???? what's letting the keyboard/mouse work then lol
[20:51] <Claw6> sry wrong chan
[20:51] <dbdii407> Halitech: Of course it starts. :|.  Still trying to get wireless to work on Hp Compaq 6715b. Got ndiswrapper part done. Got firmware and driverfiles loaded over from this computer to that computer.
[20:53] <bradland> guntbert: no worries. this link is really helpful :)
[20:53] <dbdii407> Halitech: No clue what you said.
[20:53] <Byte> Now...what is it I need to do to get it all working together ?
[20:53] <Byte> Driver is Broadcom 43xx
[20:53] <jcrawford> so I wonder why Ubuntu says it does not see my bluetooth adapter yet it works perfect
[20:54] <Halitech> dbdii407, huh?   My password is not being accepted by my smtp server.  This happened once before but I cannot remember the solution.  Obviously Rogers will not help (my isp)
[20:54] <dbdii407> ActionParsnip: What did you say?
[20:55] <Halitech> Bookman, does the password work for recieving?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> dbdii407: read:   dmesg | less     you can see whats going on with the adapter
[20:56] <dbdii407> ActionParsnip: Im sorry but that makes no sense to me
[20:56] <Halitech> ActionParsnip, dbdii407 is having a boot issue, not an adapter issue
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> sorry
[20:56] <olly> where to open that window: http://forum.skype.com/uploads//post-2150701-1255384104_thumb.png
[20:56] <Bookman> Halitech: I receive on a different server
[20:56] <Halitech> dbdii407, what is the last thing you see when it boots?
[20:57] <Halitech> Bookman, so you don't use rogers to receive mail?
[20:57] <dbdii407> Halitech: Like evryone time I boot. Black screen
[20:57] <dbdii407> Everytime
[20:57] <Bookman> Halitech: no, I forward all email to another server, just send through Rogers
[20:57] <Halitech> dbdii407, what is the last thing you see that you can describe?
[20:57] <Robs1> Anybody ?...
[20:57] <Halitech> Bookman, does rogers have a webmail system you can try?
[20:57] <dbdii407> Halitech: The last thing I saw was loading grub
[20:58] <dbdii407> Then I get a black screen like usual
[20:58] <Halitech> dbdii407, sounds like it might have wiped grub, can you boot from a live cd and check the file system?
[20:58] <dbdii407> But thus time, it won't go to the login screen
[20:58] <dbdii407> Halitech: If I knew how
[20:59] <Halitech> dbdii407, do you have a live cd kicking around?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Robs1: can you use http://pastebin.com   to give the output of: sudo lshw -C network
[20:59] <dbdii407> Halitech: Of course. But that will not load
[20:59] <Bookman> Halitech: yup, works fine there
[20:59] <k4mput> hello every one
[20:59] <Halitech> dbdii407, live cd won't load either?
[21:00] <k4mput> how dy :p
[21:00] <dbdii407> Since xubuntu hanged the disk startup, I cant live boot
[21:00] <guntbert> !hi | k4mput
[21:00] <dbdii407> Only install
[21:00] <dbdii407> Changed*
[21:00] <sakuramboo> why cant i remove wpa_supplicant?
[21:00] <Robs1> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d4a330ac8
[21:01] <free-lance> sal all
[21:01] <sakuramboo> more importantly, why cant i remove wpasupplicant without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[21:02] <dbdii407> Halitech: If you have anything else, pm me
[21:02] <dbdii407> Thanks
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Robs1: looks like you need to compile madwifi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163380
[21:02] <guntbert> sakuramboo: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package ( if I remember correctly )
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Robs1: you will need to recompile if you change kernels so keep the source handy
[21:02] <Halitech> dbdii407, what do you mean you can't live boot? I'm asking about the live cd, not the alt install cd
[21:03] <Robs1> ActionParsnip: I have alredy trying this guide, but it wont work...
[21:03] <dbdii407> Halitech: U didn't understand. I cant live ever sense ubuntu changed the disk startup
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Robs1: this may give some clues: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/395565
[21:04] <Halitech> dbdii407, you're right I don't, what do you mean ubuntu changed the disk startup?
[21:04] <xiong> Come all ye code jockeys and hear the story of a man who outsmarted himself seriously.
[21:04] <guntbert> dbdii407: do you say you cannot boot from a CD at all?
[21:04] <Robs1> ActionParsnip: It worked somehow in 8.10 and in 9.04, but after update it just died
[21:04] <dbdii407> Halitech: It used to go straight to live disk
[21:04] <guntbert> !ot | xiong
[21:04] <dbdii407> Not it asks you
[21:04] <dbdii407> Now*
[21:04] <npxx> ;Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu ı need help
[21:05] <Halitech> dbdii407, asks what?
[21:05] <dbdii407> Wow......
[21:05] <Infin1ty> i'm trying to set my cpu freq back to 2.40GHz but it's just wont let me, it's stuck on 800Mhz?! anything i can do about it?
[21:06] <xiong> guntbert, It's pretty well tied to Nautilus. Still don't want to know?
[21:06] <Infin1ty> cpufreq-set -g performance does not help,also cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 2.40GHz does not help as well
[21:06] <zilla1> during the partitioning phase of the install, how do I tell it to create an extended partition? I want to partition my disk into more than 4 pieces
[21:06] <guntbert> xiong: not here please - this is for support only
[21:06] <dbdii407> The old xubuntu cds used to go straight to live cd. Now they dont. And sense the, I HAVNT BEEN ABLE TO BOOT the live part
[21:07] <dbdii407> Do you understand now?
[21:07] <Scunizi> dbdii407: did you download the "alternate" by mistake?
[21:07] <dbdii407> Okay off the live disk thing
[21:07] <Halitech> dbdii407, no need to yell, have you checked your bios to make sure the cd rom is the first boot option?
[21:08] <dbdii407> Halitech: Off the disk thing now
[21:08] <mespejel> anyone know the difference between "override application setting" and "enhance application settings" on the nvidia x server settings?
[21:08] <Halitech> dbdii407, fine
[21:08] <Hajex>  can u give me any way to solve upgrading problem ( audio , graphic adapter  , bluetooth ) other than downgrading?
[21:08] <dbdii407> Getting annoying typing it over and over and over again on my iPod touch
[21:08] <Billiard> Hajex: does bluetooth/audio work on the live cd?
[21:08] <mespejel> for the antialiasing settings
[21:09] <dbdii407> I can boot into repair
[21:09] <Hajex> Billiard : yes but 8.04 cd live
[21:09] <dbdii407> Would that help?
[21:10] <Billiard> Hajex: does it work on the live cd of the version you want to upgrade to?
[21:10] <dbdii407> Can i copy my files to my flash drive from the recovery section?
[21:10] <Bookman> Can anyone else help with a smtp problem?  My server will not accept my password, yet when I use their web interface it works just fine with the same password.
[21:10] <dbdii407> Can i copy my files to my flash drive from the recovery section? Anyone?
[21:11] <Kaljj_> join #ubuntuusers
[21:11] <Billiard> dbdii407: should be able to
[21:11] <dbdii407> Anyway to figure out all the drives on the computer?
[21:11] <Billiard> dbdii407: the hardware?
[21:11] <Hajex> Billiard : I have only 8.04 live cd and it works well but when upgrading to 8.10 it stops working and not allow me to upgrade to 9.10 because the video adapter is not supported
[21:12] <bid> can i make new user home dirctory somthing else them /home/username ? i want to create a user and "lock" him on one dirctory
[21:12] <dbdii407> Get a list of all storage devices on the computer via terminal?
[21:12] <dajhorn> Bookman: You haven't provided enough information for anybody to help you.   At a minimum, software name and version, and an error message.
[21:12] <zilla1> If you want to do fancy things with your partition table, its not a part of the walkthrough install. you'll have to use fdisk, and build your partition table that way, and then go through the installation. Is that the message I should be getting?
[21:12] <Billiard> Hajex: you could check if audio works on 9.04 live cd or 8.10 live cd, if it does i would do a backup and fresh install
[21:12] <rubenmac>  someone have information about google chrome os?
[21:12] <Bookman> dajhorn: Ubuntu 9.04/Evolution.  Very stock.
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> dbdii407: you mean like: sudo fdisk -l  ?
[21:13] <dajhorn> Bookman: Are you running the SMTP server?  What is the error message?  Is there a log entry?
[21:13] <tonii> anybody got a tip on a good music player for Ubuntu? Preferably one that has nice functionality (Rythmbox and Amarok is, for me, useless).
[21:13] <Hajex> Billiard .. audio is working sometime and stop at the same session and not allow me to use skype
[21:13] <spookje> hello everybody,
[21:13] <Bookman> dajhorn: No.  I am an Evolution user trying to send an email to my smtp server.  Rogers.  It will not accept my password
[21:13] <dbdii407> bastid_raZor: Will that give me the drive thing? Like /sh1/media?
[21:14] <Billiard> Hajex: idk, i always do a fresh install, to avoid audio problems
[21:14] <spookje> do someone knows the dutch ubuntu channel?
[21:14] <Pici> !dutch | spookje
[21:14] <spookje> thanksss
[21:14] <Billiard> dbdii407: mount   will tell you were devices are mounted
[21:14] <Scunizi> Bookman: sometimes the username is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:14] <bastid_raZor> dbdii407: that will give you the /dev/ name .. you can also use: mount  to see the mount points
[21:15] <ph33r> how do I get 3gp to have sound in karmic? it shows only the video and not the sound, I have tried medibuntu repos but everything failed, I have th restricted codecs too, real player and mplay and smplayer and vlc too, any ideas how I can get them to play with sound ?
[21:15] <Hajex> Billiard :fresh install ? do u mean formating the current version?
[21:15] <archman> hello
[21:15] <Hans_Henrik> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop;  == doomed to fail?
[21:15] <dajhorn> Bookman: What happens when you click the "Check For Supported Types" button?
[21:15] <free-lance> what can i do?
[21:15] <Billiard> Hajex: backing up your data and formatting and fresh install yes
[21:15] <archman> ok, i'm trying to mount a digicam. lsusb lists "Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04da:2372 Panasonic (Matsushita) Lumix DMC-FZ10 Camera", but the device is not mounted. how to mount?
[21:16] <Scunizi> Hans_Henrik: you don't have to remove ubuntu-desktop to install kubuntu-desktop
[21:16] <Hajex> Billiard : thanks so much .. is there any solution other than that?
[21:16] <spookje> cu laters everybody, have a nice chat ;-)
[21:16] <bastid_raZor> !purekde | Hans_Henrik
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: Ubuntu Desktop is only a meta package or whatever it's called,  a selection of packages that are told to be installed when it is installed
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: and I was going to do what  bastid_raZor did  !purekde
[21:16] <Billiard> Hajex: well first i would make sure it actually works on the live cd, i think i fresh install is faster than an upgrade anyway
[21:17] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work ubuntu ı need help
[21:17] <Hans_Henrik> ok, thanks
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Hans_Henrik: You can have both installed, and you select which one to load up from the log in screen, and you have one set as default
[21:17] <Bookman> dajhorn: a window pops up and closes too fast to read
[21:17] <bradland> gee, should I accept this file....? http://imgur.com/pFrLb.png
[21:18] <bradland> at least get a less conspicuous name
[21:18] <Hajex> Billiard : aha .. I understand now ..thanks man
[21:18] <Billiard> Hajex: yup
[21:19] <dajhorn> Bookman: Check for typos in the server name and user name, like heading or tailing whitespace.  Try a non-25 port, if possible, like 587.
[21:19] <Hans_Henrik> brandland: well to be on the safe side - its 0 bytes, you just need the filename, make a new file with the same name :p
[21:19] <Bookman> dajhorn: how could that change randomly?
[21:19] <mrdk> Is there a way to prevent the mouse cursor from being dragged across to another x display?
[21:20] <Billiard> mrdk: i think you can change that in the compiz settings
[21:20] <bradland> Hans_Henrik: Because, hey, nothing dangerous ever came in zero bytes indicated filesize :)
[21:20] <mrdk> Billiard: any idea where?
[21:20] <archman> how to mount a digital camera?
[21:20] <Luyang> how can I make logs rotate? How do I replace nohup command with a command which automatically rotates logs?
[21:20] <Billiard> mrdk: somewhere in the compiz settings idk, look around
[21:20] <bradland> Luyang: Do you have logrotate installed?
[21:20] <Luyang> I wanna rotate weblogic stdout logs... I'm currently starting it with "nohup startWL.sh" but wanna have automatic log rotations
[21:20] <Hans_Henrik> brandland: hmm.. will the IRC client accept more than .. "0" bytes?  in that case, i guess you can call that a bug
[21:21] <Luyang> bradland: I don't think I do
[21:21] <djustice> archman: it has an SD card? or an internal memory?
[21:21] <bradland> Luyang: If you do, it's as easy as editing /etc/logrotate
[21:21] <Luyang> bradland: it's at work... I didn't install
[21:21] <zenyatta> who keeps wanting to send me to hacker threads?? >:o
[21:21] <Hans_Henrik> brandland: (0 bytes of data, that is)
[21:21] <Luyang> bradland: can it rotat my nohup logs, or do I have to start it up with new command?
[21:21] <Scunizi> zenyatta: I"m also getting them.. from different people
[21:21] <bradland> Luyang: It's installed by default in Ubuntu, so `which logrotate` and see what you get
[21:21] <archman> djustice, hmm, dunno it's not mine and i don't know a bit about digicams, but it's lumix, ls80
[21:21] <archman> djustice, i think it's SD
[21:22] <Luyang> bradland: well I'm not using ubuntu at work...
[21:22] <chriscreasy> In fullscreen flash in firefox certain videos run smooth, but it has like random white sqaures flash on and off, even when i exit avant, and turn off visual effects. anyone have this problem or any idea on how to fix it?
[21:22] <archman> djustice, lsusb gives: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 04da:2372 Panasonic (Matsushita) Lumix DMC-FZ10 Camera
[21:22] <bradland> Luyang: I'd be surprised if it weren't already installed
[21:22] <Luyang> I can't connect there now and check unfortunately
[21:22] <bradland> !logrotate | Luyang
[21:22] <djustice> archman: but no places menu entry? tried digikam? fspot?
[21:23] <bradland> Luyang: It's really your easiest bet. http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/logrotate8.html
[21:23] <zilla1> I've got 2 windows partitions already on my disk. I'd like to add a primary swap, and then an extended partition, in which i drop separate logical /boot, /home, /var, and /opt partitions. Is that achievable in the walkthrough install?
[21:23] <mrdk> Billiard: Might it be related to 'Overlapping Displays'?
[21:23] <archman> djustice, no...
[21:23] <archman> djustice, on xfce
[21:24] <rustyyy> ciao
[21:24] <Billiard> mrdk: that doesnt sould like it, i remember there was a few check boxes for when the mouse would pass over, while dragging while moving while dragging a window
[21:24] <Luyang> bradland does that mean I can do   /path/nohup.out {daily (newline) rotate5 (newline) endscript  }
[21:24] <rustyyy> !list
[21:24] <sebsebseb> zilla1: you don't need  seperate /boot  usaully  or /var
[21:24] <sebsebseb> zilla1: having a seperate /home is good though yes
[21:25] <sebsebseb> zilla1: and don't need seperate /opt
[21:25] <bradland> Luyang: yes, like this http://www.pastie.org/703253
[21:25] <mrdk> Billiard: This is a separate X display, using settings generated by nvidia-settings with 'separate X display' with two physically separate outputs
[21:26] <bradland> i think the space between rotate and the integer is important
[21:26] <gimbli> zilla1: separate /boot might be necessary if you want to crypt your drive. is this already available in the standard ubuntu 9.10 or only on the alternate cd?
[21:26] <archman> djustice, OMG they all require some useless dependencies, millions of apps; any other way?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> zilla1: and you can set up partitions on the manual install option,  as well as in gparted first, but then you would have to finnish off in manual install, telling it  what to use the partition as
[21:26] <Msx10> hi all
[21:26] <Msx10> can anyone help me with this..
[21:26] <Msx10> getting amd unsupported harware..
[21:26] <sebsebseb> gimbli:   zilla1 by default Ubuntu puts everything into  /  and make some swap space as well
[21:27] <trism> archman: maybe try gphoto2?
[21:27] <Msx10> how do i remove the watermark
[21:27] <archman> trism, installing
[21:28] <archman> trism, it's some cli?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> Msx10: watermark for what?
[21:28] <trism> archman: yeah
[21:28] <archman> trism, tnx, will test now :)
[21:28] <archman> trism, btw, strange that ubuntu can't automount such things, really...
[21:28] <Ph03n|x87> re
[21:28] <sebsebseb> gimbli: reply here not in pm
[21:28] <Sparky> I'm trying to set up Nefarious IRCd, but when I start the IRCd, and I try to go to the address in XChat, I get an error: Error: Connection Refused. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? For some reason I can only get to it when I go to local host: <IP_ADDRESS>. Instead of my IP Address/ DNS.
[21:29] <tonino> please , can somedy  help me with nvidia driver? I need install them without internet connection
[21:29] <trism> archman: yeah, it really should, it automounts mine now (but I used to use gphoto2 before it did)
[21:29] <aratai> someone here fast?
[21:29] <gimbli> sebsebseb Sorry. I just wanted to ask whether 9.10 is already able to encrypt a whole drive and not only the home drive in 9.10 ;)
[21:29] <archman> trism, how to use this? can you give me a quick tip?
[21:29] <aratai> i deleted grub by accident
[21:29] <aratai> and now i am on cd
[21:29] <Sparky> I'm trying to set up Nefarious IRCd, but when I start the IRCd, and I try to go to the address in XChat, I get an error: Error: Connection Refused. Does anybody know how to fix this problem? For some reason I can only get to it when I go to local host: <IP_ADDRESS>. Instead of my IP Address/ DNS.
[21:30] <aratai> how can i re install it?
[21:30] <dajhorn> Sparky: Run something like `sudo netstat -lntp` and check whether ircd is running on the external interface.  Don't repeat your question that quickly.
[21:30] <sebsebseb> gimbli: I don't normallley mind being pm'd, but...
[21:30] <aratai> i mean grub without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[21:30] <sakuramboo> aratai: open a terminal and run grub-install [device]
[21:30] <Sparky> Ok, sorry.
[21:30] <aratai> i am new to *nix
[21:30] <aratai> how to do that?
[21:30] <sebsebseb> gimbli: I think the desktop CD can only do the home folder, where as the alternate will do the whole drive
[21:31] <zilla1> sebsebseb, i'm planning on potentially hosting a site on this machine. Ideally, I'd like to have a separate GRUB partition, but that's looking complicated at this point. I've had issues with my SMART and my RAID system where a /boot partition ends up being a very good idea
[21:31] <gimbli> sebsebseb: thanks. good to know that
[21:31] <trism> archman: been a while since I used it, I believe I would use it with the -P argument to dump all the photos to the current directory
[21:31] <bastid_raZor> djerduigh zutgjjif8uef8ru
[21:31] <bastid_raZor> d tytfv
[21:31] <bastid_raZor> vb gbh
[21:31] <sebsebseb> gimbli well I think the alternate will only encrypt Linux partitions
[21:31] <archman> trism "Could not detect any camera" awesome XD
[21:31] <sebsebseb> gimbli: so if you have Windows on there as well for example, that won't be encrypted
[21:31] <toehio> can the ubuntu-USB be installed on a NTFS-formatted USB disk, or does it have to be FAT32?
[21:32] <sebsebseb> toehio: I woudn't recommend installing Ubuntu to NTFS or Fat32
[21:32] <unitedpotsmokers> hello.. i am using avast home for ubuntu karmic. does it run automatically every time i start a computer?
[21:32] <bastid_raZor> sorry.. my 3 year old likes to type.
[21:32] <sebsebseb> toehio: yes Linux file systems as well such as Ext4 or Ext3
[21:32] <gimbli> sebsebseb: thats no problem. i already tried this on debian with a separate LVM which worked out fine. But i missed these options in the graphical ubuntu installer.
[21:32] <sebsebseb> toehio: as well, was meant to be instead
[21:32] <mrdk> Billiard: I have now completely disabled compiz, yet the mouse cursor still moved to the alternate X display.
[21:32] <toehio> sebsebseb: I agree, I would rather install it on one of the EXTs
[21:32] <Billiard> mrdk: i thought compiz had a way to stop it but maybe im mistaken
[21:32] <archman> djustice, nah, it's not on the supported list
[21:32] <sebsebseb> zilla1: that's ok you can make a seperate /boot for Grub and the kernels
[21:33] <sebsebseb> zilla1: it's just usaully not needed
[21:33] <toehio> sebsebseb: unfortunately, I can't! So it should work on NTFS then?
[21:33] <archman> how to mount digicam on usb, guys? where can i see the device name (sdb, sda)?
[21:33] <Billiard> toehio: you cant?
[21:33] <Chousuke> toehio: I really wouldn't install it on NTFS. :/ It might work, but you'll likely hit weird problems somewhere.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> gimbli: ok
[21:33] <Chousuke> toehio: and FAT32 is even worse :)
[21:34] <toehio> Billiard: I CAN, but not in this situation (the USB device has to be accessed by windows machines)
[21:34] <Vhozard> test
[21:34] <Vhozard> !user
[21:34] <sebsebseb> toehio: you can run Ubuntu from a USB stick
[21:34] <sebsebseb> !usb |  toehio
[21:34] <Msx10> anyone know what Amd unsupported hardware means and i can do about it
[21:34] <dataviruset> why do I get no route to host when i run telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 25 ? =/
[21:34] <Chousuke> toehio: can't you make an ext partition on the USB disk aside the NTFS ones?
[21:34] <Tartaros> hi. What gui application should I use to find files by name, recursively in multiple directories?
[21:34] <toehio> sebsebseb: to clarify things, I want to install it ON the pendrive, not on a computer
[21:34] <sebsebseb> toehio: that can be done, see what the bot  put
[21:34] <Mike1> How can i disable maximizing of windows in UNR? for example GMPlayer does not like to be maximized
[21:35] <Chousuke> toehio: then have ubuntu installed on the ext partition and have some shared space for windows
[21:35] <toehio> Chousuke: excellent idea! Didn't think about it!
[21:35] <Billiard> dataviruset are you running a telnet service?
[21:35] <bradland> dataviruset: have you tried pinging your loopback?
[21:35] <Tartaros> mike1: configure or uninstall maximus
[21:35] <H_MrSun> got a huge problem, computer hung and i hard rebooted it, now it wont boot at all from hd ...
[21:35] <H_MrSun> how can i fix this? :7
[21:35] <bradland> Billiard: that wouuld give him connection refused
[21:35] <H_MrSun> how do i reinstall grub to try that ?
[21:35] <Mike1> Tartaros: i want to disable it just for certain apps
[21:35] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: now you :)
[21:35] <Gnea> !grub | H_MrSun
[21:35] <Tartaros> Mike1: yeah as I said, configure it
[21:36] <dataviruset> I'm trying to send commands to my postfix which doesn't work... ping <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't work either
[21:36] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: first of all,  anti virus for Desktop Linux at this time, is not needed,  unless for example your doing an email server, and so need to scan for Windows viruses
[21:36] <Mike1> Tartaros: but how?
[21:36] <bradland> dataviruset: do you get no route to host? or a different message?
[21:36] <toehio> everyone that helped me: thank you for your help -  I really appreciate it!
[21:36] <Msx10> anyone?
[21:36] <gimbli> dataviruset did you disable the loopback-device? didnt even thought about this being possible :D
[21:36] <Tartaros> Mike1: I§d say conf file but I§m not sure if it has any :) but it certainly has cli options
[21:36] <dataviruset> I get: PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[21:37] <dataviruset> no answer
[21:37] <Gnea> sebsebseb: it is if it's being shared to some windows computers
[21:37] <Tartaros> §='
[21:37] <Billiard> Msx10: where do you get this message
[21:37] <dataviruset> gimbli: i don't know ;/
[21:37] <ron_> why GNU GRUB version 1.97 beta4 is still in beta?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: plus you can use  programs such as ClamAV to  scan Windows partitions for viruses
[21:37] <sebsebseb> !virus | unitedpotsmokers
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Gnea: uhmm?
[21:37] <Msx10> where?? on the right side of the screen...it says amd unsupported hardware
[21:37] <lstarnes> ron_: it is still being developed
[21:37] <bradland> dataviruset: well, one thing is certain. if loopback (<IP_ADDRESS>) doesn't work, you've got networking issues. what distro and version are you running?
[21:37] <gimbli> dataviruset: Do you have a desktop or are you using only the terminal on your server?
[21:38] <Billiard> Msx10: when!!
[21:38] <Msx10> have a radeon  5770 card
[21:38] <lstarnes> ron_: note that grub 1 is still 0.97
[21:38] <Msx10> when i installed the drivers for it
[21:38] <Gnea> sebsebseb: yeah. oh that's right, you haven't worked much with bridging linux and windows, huh
[21:38] <dataviruset> bradland: i'm using ubuntu 9.10 server x64, just upgraded from 9.04
[21:38] <jac2> is there a rule that forbids dots in username? (Exp: first.last ) On ubuntu instalation it does not allow this types of usernames.
[21:38] <Msx10> Billiard, when i installed the drivers for it
[21:38] <sebsebseb> Gnea: I guess not,  bridgeing sounds slightly familur, but what is that?
[21:38] <faryshta_> Hi. I am having troubles booting a liveCD on a Dell Optiplex.
[21:39] <Gnea> sebsebseb: it's a term to describe a generalization
[21:39] <faryshta_> It gives the first menu but then gets freeze.
[21:39] <ron_> laptop
[21:39] <bradland> dataviruset: hrm, i'm not terribly famliar with ubuntu server. do you know if it uses network-manager, or does it use ifup/down scripts?
[21:39] <Billiard> Msx10: so this error message just pops out of nowhere from the right side of the screen?
[21:39] <Mike1> Tartaros: okay, found something with the keyword maximus and configure :-) there i a key in /apps/maximus in the gconf-editor :-)
[21:39] <unitedpotsmokers> sebsebseb: yes i know. in linux many people think dont need antivirus. i used both linux & windoz. what happen i use a pendrive contain virus, and need to clean all of them in linux?
[21:39] <dataviruset> bradland: ifup/down i think
[21:39] <H_MrSun> 1g
[21:39] <Mike1> Tartaros: thank you!
[21:39] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: yes that can be done
[21:39] <H_MrSun> !grub2
[21:39] <dataviruset> bradland: i'm not the kind of expert myself, hehe
[21:39] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: try ClamAV for that
[21:39] <gimbli> dataviruset try "ifup lo" then
[21:39] <Tartaros> :)
[21:40] <Msx10> yes when i installed the drivers for ati
[21:40] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: clamav should be able to take care of that, pretty sure there's a gui out there for it too
[21:40] <BenG92> Ok, i updated Ubuntu 9.10 earlier, so it was fully updated, then just now closed the lid on my laptop by accident, and put it into standby mode. when i tried to turn it on again, it didn't work, after 5 minutes i forcibly shut down my computer, and then when i tried to turn it on, ubuntu is dead. It comes up with a sh:Grub> and i typed 'Test' and it said Error: Failed.
[21:40] <faryshta_> The boot freeze on a Dell Optiplex with a Karmic LiveCD. Some help?
[21:40] <unitedpotsmokers> clamAV? but i already use avast now..
[21:40] <unitedpotsmokers> oh ic
[21:40] <archman> i need to use vmware to mount my digicam, ROFL
[21:40] <dataviruset> gimbli: yey, ping works now :O
[21:40] <mrdk> I have two monitors attached to the same computer, and on each monitor I have a separate desktop. Is there any way to prevent the mouse cursor from moving between the two screens, unless a hotkey is pressed?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: well  you could do Avast for Linux as well
[21:40] <sebsebseb> unitedpotsmokers: by the way not all anti viruses are going to pick up on exactly the same stuff
[21:40] <Billiard> Msx10: dunno, get nvidia card lol
[21:40] <bradland> dataviruset: look at the contents of /etc/network/interfaces. make sure the auto lo and iface lo lines are present
[21:40] <gimbli> dataviruset: nice. try to restart your mta now. perhaps the connection to port 25 might work as well now :D
[21:40] <unitedpotsmokers> so if i use ClamAV it will run automatically when start ubuntu?
[21:40] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers, sebsebseb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94093
[21:41] <dataviruset> gimbli: mta?
[21:41] <dataviruset> bradland: i'll check it
[21:41] <xeenah> hi everyone
[21:41] <unitedpotsmokers> ok, give me a sec...
[21:41] <maco> dataviruset: mail transfer agent
[21:41] <Gnea> unitedpotsmokers: it's setup a little bit differently than windows
[21:41] <gimbli> dataviruset: mta - mail transfer agent ... postfix for example. or what are you running on port 25
[21:41] <Doonz> hey can somone direct me to an article for maximizing my mdadm raid arrays?
[21:41] <Doonz> ors is 30MB/s pretty good on a 5x500gb raid 5 array?
[21:41] <bradland> dataviruset: should look something like this: http://www.pastie.org/703284
[21:42] <BenG92> Ok, i updated Ubuntu 9.10 earlier, so it was fully updated, then just now closed the lid on my laptop by accident, and put it into standby mode. when i tried to turn it on again, it didn't work, after 5 minutes i forcibly shut down my computer, and then when i tried to turn it on, ubuntu is dead. It comes up with a sh:Grub> and i typed 'Test' and it said Error: Failed.
[21:42] <xeenah> does anyone have a clue how to force mono output for whole system with alsa?
[21:42] <H_MrSun> doesnt help with reinstalling grub ...
[21:42] <dataviruset> bradland: thanks!
[21:42] <unitedpotsmokers> ok i will try clam... thanks for your advice.. :)
[21:42] <dataviruset> gimbli: that did it, thank you guys!
[21:42] <dataviruset> oh. thank you guys**
[21:42] <Xaviorin> Can someone answer an ignorant question for me
[21:43] <ron_> do you know when the gnu grub version 1.97 will come out of beta?
[21:43] <Gnea> Xaviorin: not if you don't ask it
[21:43] <lstarnes> ron_: probably never
[21:43] <Xaviorin> lol ok
[21:43] <prefrontal> why can't we have nice things? why can't we have a nice web browser that can view pdfs in a tab? why don't all of our web browsers support this?
[21:43] <lstarnes> ron_: grub 1 has been in 0.97 for a very long time
[21:43] <dataviruset> but my /etc/network/interfaces contains this O_o    Bra http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/restricted Packages
[21:43] <dataviruset> Bra http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Sources
[21:43] <dataviruset> Bra http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages
[21:43] <dataviruset> Bra http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/restricted Sources
[21:43] <dataviruset> Bra http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/universe Packages
[21:43] <FloodBot1> dataviruset: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <dataviruset> Bra http://se.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/universe Sources
[21:43] <Xaviorin> Never used linux and a buddy said ubuntu was a good one to use. If i use the windows installer can i switch back and forth from the os i had before ubuntu whenever i want?
[21:44] <sebsebseb> ron_: the verson that comes with Karmic says it's a beta I know, but you don't need to worry about that and think buggy
[21:44] <BenG92> Ok, i updated Ubuntu 9.10 earlier, so it was fully updated, then just now closed the lid on my laptop by accident, and put it into standby mode. when i tried to turn it on again, it didn't work, after 5 minutes i forcibly shut down my computer, and then when i tried to turn it on, ubuntu is dead. It comes up with a sh:Grub> and i typed 'Test' and it said Error: Failed.
[21:44] <Gnea> prefrontal: why do large software companies enact patents? why do they want to control everything and suck everyone's money away?
[21:44] <iceroot> !ot | Gnea
[21:44] <gimbli> dataviruset how did you make your /etc/network/interfaces your /etc/apt/sources.list? :D
[21:44] <faryshta_> The boot freeze on a Dell Optiplex with a Karmic LiveCD. Some help?
[21:44] <reeher_> I was just given the go ahead to look at hosting virtual systems on a centralized server, a la thin clients.  I need a big "start here" arrow on how I would get a desktop running linux to connect to a server running linux and having Windows run in a vbox.  Any ideas or suggestions?
[21:44] <unitedpotsmokers> 1 more question. i want to remove avast. sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation <-- is it correct?
[21:44] <Tartaros> What gui application should I use to find files by name, recursively in multiple directories?
[21:44] <Gnea> iceroot: uh, please, get a clue. I was being rhetorical.
[21:44] <Xaviorin> Never used linux and a buddy said ubuntu was a good one to use. If i use the windows installer can i switch back and forth from the os i had before ubuntu whenever i want?
[21:45] <jrib> reeher_: might try #vbox
[21:45] <prefrontal> Xaviorin, yes. Wubi installs to your Windows partition. You can reboot to either Windows or Ubuntu
[21:45] <reeher_> Xaviorin: Yes, but you'll have to reboot each time.
[21:45] <dataviruset> gimbli: but my interfaces file looks like this, but it doesn't get the job done when i start the machine =( http://paste.ubuntu.com/321093/
[21:45] <Xaviorin> thank you
[21:45] <Msx10> anyone have this problem...Amd unsupported hardware watermak
[21:45] <xeenah> Xaviorin - why use windows installer, if you can have both systems at the same time?
[21:45] <trism> prefrontal: try the mozplugger package
[21:45] <reeher_> jrib: Beaut, thanks!
[21:45] <BenG92> Somebody help me, i can't even get Ubuntu to load
[21:45] <Xaviorin> what did xeenah mean but have both systems at the same time?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> ron_: They don't support the old Grub in #grub anymore  or whatever.  So surely it's stable enough, hence why it got included in Karmic as well
[21:46] <prefrontal> trism, trying it, thanks.
[21:46] <unitedpotsmokers> yes or no? come on
[21:46] <gimbli> dataviruset: do you have a file /etc/init.d/networking? might also be of course the new upstarting system... then i am clueless
[21:46] <dangerx89> ciao
[21:46] <unitedpotsmokers> i need to remove it completly
[21:46] <Gnea> prefrontal: I have found that acroread will do just that... part of medibuntu
[21:46] <BenG92> can noone help?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> BenG92: oh Grub has messed up it seems hmm
[21:47] <trism> prefrontal: it might just work, but if not there is a guide to configure it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25685
[21:47] <dataviruset> gimbli: i do have that, yes. but all this stuff started to mess when i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 :/
[21:47] <Xaviorin> The windows installer is saying there is no disk.... whats that suppose to mean
[21:47] <BenG92> sebsebseb so how do i fix it?
[21:47] <prefrontal> trism, it works!!
[21:47] <prefrontal> thanks:)
[21:47] <BenG92> if I can't load ubuntu, i can't install the new update
[21:47] <prefrontal> (and it's using acroread)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> BenG92: Grub 2 is  pretty new, and I don't know it well yet.
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !grub2 |  BenG92
[21:48] <Msx10> does anyone know about this message..."Amd unsupported hardware"
[21:48] <Xaviorin> The windows installer is saying there is no disk.... whats that suppose to mean
[21:48] <Gnea> Msx10: nope, too generic
[21:48] <gimbli> dataviruset: what does "/etc/init.d/networking stop" and "/etc/init.d/networking start" show you?
[21:48] <Msx10> what u mean to generic?
[21:48] <dataviruset> gimbli: is it safe to run those commands over ssh?
[21:48] <Gnea> Msx10: there's no real info there
[21:49] <dataviruset> gimbli: perhaps if i do them at the same time
[21:49] <gimbli> dataviruset: hm, if you dont have physical access to the machine... no
[21:49] <Msx10> its a watemark i have on the bottom right off the screen
[21:49] <BenG92> sebsebseb unfortunatly that doesn't help my problem, because i think my problem is ubuntus core drivers have been wiped
[21:49] <unitedpotsmokers> BenG92: u need a ubuntu cd, start in live cd mode. then can repair grub
[21:49] <mrXX> guys, has anyone been able to acces the ipod touch from ubuntu?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> BenG92: core drivers aye? uhmm  most hardware support is  built in to the Linux kernel
[21:49] <mrXX> itouch 2nd gen
[21:50] <sebsebseb> BenG92: it will be graphics cards and wireless drivers, where you will probably need to install something
[21:50] <joljam> warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[21:50] <BenG92> unitedpotsmokers I used a home-burnt DVD disc to load, will it still work?
[21:50] <joljam> could anyone help with this :warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[21:50] <kermit> joljam: try #c
[21:50] <kermit> joljam: or ##c
[21:51] <joljam> kermit: where?
[21:51] <phantomcircuit__> im using brasero to burn a data DVD but it's getting stuck on "Getting size"
[21:51] <phantomcircuit__> it just sits there forever "Getting size"
[21:51] <dataviruset> gimbli: can i run it /etc/init.d/networking stop && /etc/init.d/networking start? i think the ssh connection recovers automatically
[21:52] <BenG92> and sebsebseb, i turn on my computer, i select 'Ubuntu' when asked to load between Vista and Ubuntu, and it goes: GNU GRUB then explains some testing protocol, says 'press TAB to see commands' so i did, it said Test was a command, so i tried it, it came back with an Error. its not the graphics or the wireless, its the whole installation of ubuntu that has broken
[21:52] <mrXX> is there any ipod touch software for ubuntu?
[21:52] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: not sure, but  you could try and burn a bit slower, or try other disc burning programs such as K3B.  K3B is rather nice it is a KDE app, but can run in Gnome as well, and if you haven't installed a KDE app before and you install K3B it will want to put on quite a bit of KDE  stuff,  which will also be used for other KDE apps that you could install.
[21:52] <zilla1> sebsebseb, this may be off channel, but at least on the 9.04 install, if list 3 primary partitions, and then a logical partition, the installer will tell you that the rest of the space is unusueable, even if you have more drive space training that final partition. If you create 2 primary, and then a logical, it will allow you to continue creating logical parts, and then a final primary
[21:52] <gimbli> dataviruset: you can also try "/etc/init.d/networking restart" but i only did this while beeing in the same building with the server i managed. it never failed but i would not guarantee anything ;)
[21:53] <phantomcircuit__> sebsebseb, so you suggest just not using brasero?
[21:53] <sebsebseb> zilla1: well 9.04 is really the better release in many ways, or so it seems to me
[21:53] <dataviruset> gimbli: i set sleep 120 and ifup eth0 as a @reboot script in crontab, i can make a remote reboot
[21:54] <sebsebseb> zilla1: well  better release depends on the user, and what they want to do with it, but also what hardware they have to some extent
[21:54] <npxx> help me pls
[21:54] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: I have had something not working in brasero before, but it worked in K3B
[21:54] <zilla1> sebsebseb old hardware is old
[21:54] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: it was a problem burning the contents of an ISO to a DVD, or wahtever
[21:55] <Robs1> anybody got running wifi on asus F5RL ?
[21:55] <npxx> Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s tv card not work
[21:55] <gimbli> dataviruset: ok, that might help if it fails. but i am still searching for the documentation of "upstart" which might cause the problem because this changed between 9.04 and 9.10 and might be the reason you had no loopback-device after reboot...
[21:55] <sebsebseb> zilla1: yes and?
[21:55] <npxx> ı need help pls
[21:55] <gimbli> dataviruset because the init.d-scripts havent been called
[21:55] <dataviruset> gimbli: the thing is, the eth0 didn't go up at the start either, i had to start it manually with ifup eth0
[21:56] <sebsebseb> zilla1: and 9.04 is now the release before the latest one,  but newer is not always better, and with Ubuntu it's not about what is the latest, it's about what is still supported with security updates
[21:56] <dataviruset> gimbli: here's my networking restart (run over ssh without problems :)) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/321100/
[21:56] <phantomcircuit__> sebsebseb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/482991
[21:56] <phantomcircuit__> same issue as that guy
[21:57] <gimbli> dataviruset: so the script works like a charme and it might be the upstart problem. i will see whether i can find something. brb ;)
[21:57] <dataviruset> gimbli: thanks :)
[21:59] <BenG92> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8231009 thats sort of my problem, except he fixed it by merging two drives into one, i have installed linux through Vista
[21:59] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: uhmm well I have had issues with Brasero before, K3B on the other hand tends to always work well
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> yeah
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> 250 MB later
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> :(
[22:00] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: 250 MB later???
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> sebner, well need to download 70MB
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> but installing 250
[22:00] <phantomcircuit__> kde libs and such
[22:00] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: for what? K3B?
[22:01] <Robs1> Help, I have finally recognized my WiFi card, but there are no hotspots recognized
[22:01] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: yes that's what I  told you earlier, it will want to put KDE stuff on
[22:01] <phantomcircuit__> yes
[22:01] <gimbli> dataviruset could you paste the output of "cat /etc/init/networking" please ?
[22:01] <BenG92> has anyone else had this problem?
[22:02] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__:  Gnome is alright, but  I like running a few KDE apps in it as well, sometimes.   Well Konversation is the main KDE app I use since it's my IRC client, rather nice one as well.
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> phantomcircuit, if you are planning on doing much burning K3B, and unfortunately the required KDE libraries, is probably the way to go
[22:02] <dataviruset> gimbli: you mean /etc/init.d/networking? http://paste.ubuntu.com/321101/
[22:03] <gimbli> dataviruset: no, it should be "/etc/init" it seems like they moved the scripts for upstart there which is used in 9.10. /etc/init.d is obsolete in 9.04, i guess
[22:04] <BenG92> does anyone know how to fix a SH:Grub> error when you try to boot unbuntu?
[22:04] <dataviruset> gimbli: wtf? that MAY be the reason why this doesn't work :O
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !language |  dataviruset
[22:04] <warren1234> hey Room!! I am having difficulty with PureAdminmy FTP server for ubuntu 9.10. I have everything set up and when I ftp://<IP_ADDRESS> it brings up the login box, when I login it allways fails. I think it might have something to do with users and groups. if anyone can help I would appreciate it greatly
[22:05] <dataviruset> =(
[22:05] <sebsebseb> dataviruset: :)
[22:05] <dataviruset> gimbli: i have an init dir as it seems, but no networking stuff
[22:05] <gimbli> dataviruset: yeah, looks like that. but i dont know why this failed during the upgrade as i did the same on my desktop machine
[22:06] <dataviruset> gimbli: perhaps it's possible to check somewhere what should be run (and in this case - from which directory it should be run) in the start
[22:06] <dataviruset> gimbli: and see if they changed the directory there to init
[22:06] <gimbli> dataviruset i am just copying the file for the networking... give me a sec ;)
[22:07] <Pipous> ola
[22:08] <BenG92> does anyone know how to fix a SH:Grub> error when you try to boot unbuntu?
[22:08] <kyentei> BenG92: tried booting from a live Ubuntu and then re-install grub?
[22:09] <phantomcircuit__> wtf
[22:09] <phantomcircuit__> sebsebseb, i install kb3 and it brings along mysql server and all kinds of friends
[22:09] <phantomcircuit__> ridiculous
[22:09] <gimbli> dataviruset I guess the script should look like this (this is what i found on my pc): http://paste.ubuntu.com/321108/
[22:09] <BenG92> kyentei I'll need to find my live cd, how do you re-install grub?
[22:10] <Catalin> hello all
[22:10] <gimbli> dataviruset: create a file "/etc/init/network-interfaces" and paste this into it. after restart this should be called by the upstart
[22:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and my 9.04 was 64 bit I assume the 9.10 was auto 64?
[22:10] <kyentei> You could also try and reach the recovery-mode of Ubuntu
[22:10] <kyentei> apt-get remove grub, apt-get install grub
[22:10] <gimbli> dataviruset: but i still cant guarantee for anything as this is my first time trying this ;)
[22:10] <knoxville_> I somehow shut down icons and rightclicking on the desktop.. (Like explorer in MS) How to get it back?
[22:10] <Catalin> i`m using an M-audio 5.1 sound card and when i plug my mic, the jack does not recognize it...what can i do?
[22:11] <dataviruset> gimbli: i'll try it out, many thanks to you!!
[22:11] <agente86> hola a todos
[22:11] <Catalin> the sound works fine, but my mic doesn`t recognize it
[22:11] <faryshta_> The boot freeze on a Dell Optiplex with a Karmic LiveCD. Some help?
[22:12] <Catalin> any ideea how to solve that issue?
[22:12] <glphvgacs> i'm on a mac
[22:12] <gimbli> dataviruset: but be careful. i hope it wont break anything during the start which might lead to bigger problems resulting in your server not booting anymore
[22:12] <sebsebseb> phantomcircuit__: oh not sure why it wants to put mysql server on
[22:12] <gimbli> dataviruset: wait a little. i will see whether i can find some more documentation on this
[22:12] <inh> does ubuntu server come wtih gnome?
[22:12] <rww> phantomcircuit__: mysql server, or some mysql common stuff?
[22:12] <agente86> alguien que hable español???
[22:12] <rww> inh: not by default, no
[22:12] <dataviruset> gimbli: ok, no problems =)
[22:12] <rww> !es | agente86
[22:12] <glphvgacs> hdiutil (mac's disk burning tool) reads this: http://pastebin.com/m2a06e1f6
[22:13] <inh> rww ok thanks =]
[22:13] <agente86> thx
[22:13] <glphvgacs> can i use it to burn .iso on a CD?
[22:13] <warren1234> inh: no
[22:13] <glphvgacs> is .iso a 'disk image'?
[22:13] <Catalin> is someone here online who can help me?
[22:13] <fcuk112> glphvgacs: yes and yes.
[22:13] <inh> i might be better sudted to use the desktop verion then
[22:13] <fcuk112> !ask | Catalin
[22:14] <rww> glphvgacs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Mac%20OS%20X is the normal way to burn ISOs from OS X.
[22:14] <gimbli> dataviruset: it is /etc/init/network-interface by the way. they only used the singular form for the name ...
[22:14] <Catalin> fcuk112, i just ask, but neither one respond to me
[22:14] <npxx> my tv card Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work  help me plsss
[22:14] <Flare-Laptop> !iso | glphvgacs
[22:14] <warren_> hey Room!! I am having difficulty with PureAdminmy FTP server for ubuntu 9.10. I have everything set up and when I ftp://<IP_ADDRESS> it brings up the login box, when I login it allways fails. I think it might have something to do with users and groups. if anyone can help I would appreciate it greatly
[22:14] <rww> Flare-Laptop: !burn, actually, but it just links to the URL I already gave.
[22:14] <Catalin> fcuk112, i`m using an M-audio 5.1 sound card and when i plug my mic, the jack does not recognize it...what can i do?
[22:14] <dataviruset> gimbli: okay, i'll try it out now then, thanks again!
[22:15] <Janhouse_> I am using ubuntu. I am connecting to windows server using terminal server. How can I send ctrl+alt+del?
[22:15] <Flare-Laptop> rww: Ahh ok
[22:16] <warren1234> !off topic help
[22:16] <warren1234> !off topic
[22:16] <dAlfa89_> !ot
[22:16] <warren1234> thnx
[22:16] <music_freak> anyone familiar with pykaraoke? i need hel
[22:17] <faryshta_> The boot freeze on a Dell Optiplex with a Karmic LiveCD. Some help?
[22:17] <warren1234> is that the room with non ubuntu program help?
[22:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 and my 9.04 was 64 bit I assume the 9.10 was auto 64? I don't know how to check
[22:17] <rww> U-b-u-n-t-u: correct
[22:18] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks rww
[22:18] <jongbergs> faryshta_: try enabling noapic nolapic of the advanced boot options
[22:18] <dAlfa89_> warren1234, pretty much, basically a general chat area
[22:18] <LjL> warren1234: there is a #pykaraoke channel
[22:18] <warren1234> U-b-u-n-t-u: look at what package you downloaded, I do not think that you can down grade from 64 without problems
[22:18] <LjL> it's also empty. nevermind.
[22:18] <ubuspire> hi all, is there a better (ubuntu wise) way to enable ip_forwarding, iptables -j masq and a dhcp server than running on the command line / with a custom script?
[22:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> warren1234, I just used the upgrade listed in the update manager
[22:19] <warren1234> Thanx LjL!! thats what I wanted ;) someone ther can help me with my pureadmin ftp question!! WOOT!
[22:19] <music_freak> i'm looking for pykaraoke support. i am having problems controlling screen placement
[22:19] <rww> U-b-u-n-t-u: to check, you'd do "uname -a" in a terminal. If it says "x86_64" towards the end of it, it's using 64-bit.
 it will keep you 64 bit
[22:19] <faryshta_> jongbergs, Ok.
[22:19] <nh2> can I chainload one grub2 from another grub2
[22:20] <U-b-u-n-t-u> perfect thanks warren1234 and rww
[22:20] <jongbergs> faryshta_: you can do so during boot menu, press F6, select acpi=off, noapic, nolapic   just to be sure
[22:22] <faryshta_> jongbergs, ok. noapic seems didn't work. Will try the other option now.
[22:23] <jongbergs> faryshta_: did you select the thre options? acpi=off, noapic, nolapic
[22:23] <memiux> Which utility allows me to continue copying files even if ocurrs an error?
[22:23] <memiux> like teracopy for linux?
[22:23] <faryshta_> jongbergs, NO! OK will reboot.
[22:24] <ubuspire> memiux: err ubuntu IS linux
[22:24] <server__> !rs
[22:24] <dataviruset> gimbli: i'm not sure if it worked, i'm going to trash the loopback part of my rescue-script where i run ifup lo, so i can check whether it's up or not afterwards (if your script worked it should get up)...
[22:24] <ubuspire> memiux: but you can lookup ddrescue
[22:24] <gimbli> dataviruset: i press thumbs that it works ;)
[22:24] <jongbergs> faryshta_: press space bar to select the option and an "x" mark beside the option means it's selected
[22:24] <faryshta_> jongbergs, Now I checked the three. Waiting...
[22:24] <dataviruset> gimbli: :)
[22:24] <npxx> my tv card Avermedia A707 PCIe dual Hybrid analog/dvb-t/dvb-s  not work  help me plsss
[22:25] <faryshta_> jongbergs, nothing happens it just freezes on a black screen after I order install.
[22:25] <Doonz> whats a good transfer speed on a raid 5 array using mdadm?
[22:26] <faryshta_> jongbergs, already checked md5 for errors.
[22:26] <jongbergs> faryshta_: does your ISO image OK?
[22:26] <LinuksGR> !
[22:26] <jongbergs> faryshta_: try enabling another option, press F4 then select safe graphics mode
[22:27] <jongbergs> faryshta_: you should have 4 options now
[22:27] <Ph03n|x87> n8
[22:27] <ScabbyMadman> hi anyone here using a version of ubuntu on an eeepc 1000he?
[22:27] <Flare-Laptop> Is there a flowchart and pseudo code program for linux? Something like raptor (http://raptor.martincarlisle.com/)
[22:28] <jongbergs> ScabbyMadman: try Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10, designed for lightweight netbook like eeepc
[22:28] <faryshta_> jongbergs, ok.
[22:28] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: there
[22:28] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: there
[22:28] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: there's one called Klavaro
[22:28] <ScabbyMadman> jongbergs, I have installed  it just wantto compare notes on a few  things
[22:28] <woble> anyone knows how to enable the fancy graphical grub2 menu?
[22:29] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: you can try to install it by sudo apt-get install klavaro
[22:29] <Flare-Laptop> jongbergs: That's a typing tutor not a flowchart/pseudo code program.
[22:29] <faryshta_> jongbergs, same.
[22:30] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: sorry, i mispelled, it's Kivio
[22:30] <dataviruset> gimbli: no, <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't answer on ping ;/
[22:30] <faryshta_> Freezes on black screen.
[22:30] <jongbergs> faryshta_: can you check your CD for defects?
[22:31] <Scunizi> Flare-Laptop: you want a flowchart type program? Try Dia
[22:31] <nh2> can I chainload one grub2 from another grub2?
[22:31] <jongbergs> faryshta_: hmm...what could be wrong..
[22:31] <Flare-Laptop> Scunizi: I know that, I'm using that. But I need something that runs pseudo code as well.
[22:31] <faryshta_> jongbergs, already did. MD5 is the same.
[22:32] <faryshta_> jongbergs, what is weird is I have Intrepid in that same computer.
[22:32] <gimbli> dataviruset: hm, strange. what does "service networking start" show you on the machine?
[22:32] <faryshta_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/467431 jongbergs
[22:32] <jongbergs> faryshta_: and did you encounter the same problem with intrepid?
[22:33] <ubuspire> never mind. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router found something
[22:33] <faryshta_> jongbergs, not at all.
[22:33] <dataviruset> gimbli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/321121/
[22:33] <dataviruset> gimbli: (unknown job networking)
[22:33] <dataviruset> gimbli: oops, i pasted that twice there. well. you got it clear xD
[22:34] <jongbergs> faryshta_: btw, what hardware platform you currently have?
[22:34] <gimbli> dataviruset: ah ok, then it, perhaps, has to be registered in some kind of way. i thought the pure existence of the file might fix it ;)
[22:34] <dataviruset> gimbli: hmm
[22:34] <faryshta_> Optiplex 740 two 64bits processor. 2gb RAM.
[22:34] <faryshta_> jongbergs,
[22:34] <ScabbyMadman> hi anyone here using a version of ubuntu on an eeepc 1000 series
[22:35] <taofd> how do I set it so that whenever an application demands attention  (like clicking a firefox link when my firefox window is in another work space) that application will be focused?
[22:35] <Flare-Laptop> Are there any pseudo code related programs for ubuntu/linux?
[22:36] <davidboy1> How would I set up a cron job to run at a specific time?
[22:36] <jongbergs> faryshta_: is could be an issue related to karmic's failing to boot under 64-bit
[22:36] <woble> anyone knows how to enable the fancy graphical grub2 menu?
[22:36] <jongbergs> faryshta_: have you done googling with this issue?
[22:37] <faryshta_> jongbergs, I am right now.
[22:37] <Lostinspace_46> Is anyone here well versed in Gizmod??
[22:37] <dajhorn> davidboy1: Add a cron job with the `crontab -e` command.
[22:38] <embrik> s it possible to downgrade? I want to get back to hardy - because of keyboard-problems with nx-client
[22:38] <jongbergs> faryshta_: and your using and AMD 64 cpu?
[22:39] <Flare-Laptop> Are there any pseudo code related programs for ubuntu/linux?
[22:39] <kermit> is there a way to make my touchpad not freak out any time i bump my track stick?
[22:39] <davidboy1> dajhorn: Thanks
[22:40] <jongbergs> Flare-Laptop: did you try kivio?
[22:40]  * Flare-Laptop facepalms
[22:40] <mgv2> can someone remind me how can i install graphic card driver? i want to try to play open arena again even tho i have no mouse
[22:40] <Flare-Laptop> jongbergs: it doesn't run pseudo code
[22:40] <faryshta_> jongbergs, yes is a amd Athlon x2
[22:41] <criss> hi guys .. can i increase my swap partition after ive installed linux? im new to all this .. i only have 256MB RAM or where do i find out what my swop is at the moment?
[22:41] <ubuspire> hmm.. actually the network manager in gnome seems pretty sufficient for most needs
[22:41] <TheCheeze> i am on a live cd environment and have my main drive mounted. i am trying to back up my home directory but it says i do not have the proper permission. how can i fix this?
[22:41] <ubuspire> no firewall etc are included but it's pretty nice
[22:42] <mespejel> any good tutorial of how to create a swapfile on ubuntu 9.10?
[22:42] <jongbergs> criss: sudo fdisk -l
[22:42] <ScabbyMadman> mespejel, I just did it today so ask
[22:42] <dataviruset> gimbli: the init directory shouldn't contain scripts, is that what you meant?
[22:42] <criss> jong what does that command do for me?
[22:42] <Bam_Bam> Does anyone know why my cdrom drive locks up while rhythmbox 0.12.5 is playing a media file?
[22:42] <Flare-Laptop> !swap | mesenga
[22:42] <Flare-Laptop> oops
[22:42] <Bam_Bam> or rather music cd
[22:42] <mespejel> ScabbyMadman, can you help me to create a swap file thanks
[22:42] <Flare-Laptop> !swap | mespejel
[22:43] <jongbergs> criss: launch terminal and type this command sudo fdisk -l, this would let you know where's your swap partition
[22:43] <ScabbyMadman> mesenga, yes or you can fillow the link that Flare-Laptop produced
[22:43] <criss> okay kewl thanks man
[22:43] <ScabbyMadman> mesenga, pm me if you want
[22:43] <ScabbyMadman> or if the channel doesent mind
[22:43] <embrik> TheCheeze, do it from command line: sudo cp -r /home/username/ destination_folder
[22:43] <gimbli> dataviruset: no. i think that the job has to be registered to be executed on startup. but i found out that the files dont have to be executable and perhaps we need a second file here which is named "/etc/init/networking"... i will paste the file in a second ;)
[22:43] <mesenga> ?
[22:44] <Flare-Laptop> mesenga: Sorry about that wrong person.
[22:44] <mespejel> Flare-Laptop, actually i have enough memory.. the problem is that without swap i cant have some functions like suspend or hibernate
[22:44] <mespejel> but i have enough memory and fast memory
[22:44] <mesenga> ok
[22:44] <ScabbyMadman> mespejel, how bif a swap file do you want?
[22:44] <taofd> how do I set it so that whenever an application demands attention  (like clicking a firefox link when my firefox window is in another work space) that application will be focused?
[22:44] <ScabbyMadman> big
[22:44] <dataviruset> gimbli: hmm, but does this all exist in a 9.10 clean install? in that case it would be copy 'n paste? :D
[22:44] <mespejel> maybe 1gb
[22:44] <mespejel> thats enough
[22:44] <gimbli> dataviruset: you can find the file content here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/321125/
[22:44] <mespejel> i just want to use it for does functions.. cause i lower my swappines to 10
[22:45] <TheCheeze> embrik will that get hidden folders too?
[22:45] <mespejel> so my memory is doing almost all the stuff
[22:45] <ScabbyMadman> tadof usually the  panel widget will flash
[22:45] <gimbli> dataviruset: oh it does, i guess :D
[22:45] <embrik> TheCheeze, yes
[22:45] <ScabbyMadman> mespejel,  pm  me if you want a  tutorial
[22:45] <criss> jongbergs: i have no idea what all that stuff means man ... im new to ubuntu ... can i send you the results in a PM or something please?
[22:45] <dataviruset> gimbli: isn't this a bug or something, then? :o
[22:45] <dataviruset> gimbli: i mean... do-release-upgrade should do everything? :ooo
[22:45] <faryshta_> jongbergs, seems is an open bug (probably will never be solved in Karmic).
[22:46] <gimbli> dataviruset: if these files doesnt exist after an upgrade... then it is :/
[22:46] <embrik> TheCheeze, maybe you should use a * to be sure /home/username/*
[22:46] <dataviruset> gimbli: so now i have two files in /etc/init, network-interface and networking ...
[22:47] <jongbergs> faryshta_: probably, this bug has already been submitted to launchpad..we just hope ubuntu team will issue a fix asap.
[22:47] <embrik> TheCheeze, read man cp
[22:47] <dataviruset> gimbli: so this should do the trick now? :P
[22:47] <prappl93> How do I readd the help thing to the panel?
[22:47] <vonnick> Is it possible to upload entire folders to Ubuntu One?
[22:47] <mrXX> is there a notepad++ equivalent for ubuntu?
[22:47] <Flare-Laptop> prappl93: click it
[22:47] <jongbergs> criss: did you read the swap faq sent to you?
[22:47] <prappl93> Flare-Laptop, what?
[22:47] <vonnick> prapple: Click system and drag Help and Support to the desktop
[22:47] <gimbli> dataviruset: try "service networking start"
[22:47] <vonnick> Drag that icon to the panel
[22:47] <TheCheeze> embrik thank you. had a catastrophic karmic failure after an update today
[22:48] <Doonz> whats a good transfer speed on a raid 5 array using mdadm?
[22:48] <prappl93> vonnick, thanks
[22:48] <dataviruset> gimbli: unknown job networking
[22:48] <prappl93> Is it possible to get Ubuntu One for the LTS?
[22:48] <criss> jongbergs: im reading that now i missed that thanks
[22:48] <embrik> I had the same on a lenovo r61i - had to backup and install hardy
[22:48] <mrXX> is there notepad++ for ubuntu?
[22:48] <embrik> mrXX, I use nano
[22:48] <Flare-Laptop> mrXX: you can do the same stuff in gedit as you can in notepad++
[22:49] <gimbli> dataviruset: does "initctl list" show you some networking-entries?
[22:49] <baytes-vm> mrXX: or bluefish
[22:49] <faryshta_> jongbergs, but for use the solution I will need to have ubuntu installed the only way to actually fix it is by releasing another .iso which I see improbable.
[22:49] <embrik> mrXX, If you want a gui you can start gedit
[22:49] <baytes-vm> mrXX: prob the closest to notepad++
[22:49] <rooth> Evning all, have anyonebeen able to use the built-in card-reader of HP-laptops with xD-memory-cards?
[22:49] <vonnick> I find kate to be good for a NP++ alt
[22:49] <mrXX> but gedit doesnt do formatting, else it is gr8
[22:50] <rooth> I have a HP Mobile Workstation Compaq 8710w
[22:50] <dataviruset> gimbli: no, but i ran sudo service networking restart and it restarted the networking stuff
[22:50] <prappl93> Can I install Ubuntu One on 8.04 LTS?
[22:50] <vonnick> I dunno rooth, but my card reader doesn't work in my HP A620N desktop
[22:50] <dataviruset> gimbli: the loopback interface seems to work aswell :O
[22:50] <arooni> how do i make it i can simulate a 3rd mouse button on my mouse?  i..e when i click left and right bottons at same time it results in a middle click?
[22:50] <rooth> vonnick: OK, thx!
[22:50] <dataviruset> gimbli: ah, not now
[22:51] <rooth> vonnick: strange that noone has addressed that matter =)
 is bluefish esp for webdesigners?
[22:51] <mrXX> i need to work with php, html, perl mostly
[22:51] <gimbli> dataviruset: damn, and i had a little hope that this worked out ;)
[22:51] <vonnick> If you can find out who makes the card readers for Hp there's probably a third party driver somewhere
[22:51] <Flare-Laptop> mrXX: It does all thos
[22:51] <Flare-Laptop> those*
[22:52] <Infomomo> do we know how to change the resolution on ubuntu-server 9.10 ??? thanks
[22:52] <vonnick> Although ubuntu 8.04 recognizes it from the live cd
[22:52] <dataviruset> gimbli: hmm. perhaps i should try to restart before you get too mad, you never know... :p
[22:52] <rooth> vonnick: 02:06.6 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 10)
[22:52] <mrXX> bluefish looks gud
[22:52] <jongbergs> faryshta_: does the version of ubuntu is 64-bit?
[22:52] <faryshta_> jongbergs, yes.
[22:53] <rooth> vonnick: darn, I'm in Italy on a business trip and left the 8.04 CD at home. I'll try the 9.10 cd.
[22:53] <ubuspire> arooni: it should be on by default, if not, then you have to edit your xorg.conf
[22:53] <gimbli> dataviruset: of course it is not a windows-system but it gives me some time to read more documentation ;)
[22:53] <grise24> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:53] <arooni> ubuspire, not set for me;; what do i need to change in xorg.conf?
[22:53] <vonnick> What's your laptop model?
[22:53] <dataviruset> gimbli: you're kind :)
[22:53] <locum> grise24,  estas en una sala en ingles
[22:54] <rooth> vonnick: I have a HP Mobile Workstation Compaq 8710w
[22:54] <vonnick> Here's a bug for your card reader: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311781
[22:55] <jongbergs> faryshta_: ok let's try again by selecting all the F6 options except free software only, as well as safe graphics mode under F4
[22:55] <arooni> how do i make it so i can do vncviewing on others desktops?  i need vncviewer on both computers?
[22:55] <vonnick> Seems someone found a solution there
 is there a way to preview the html file in bluefish
[22:55] <taofd> how do I set it so that whenever an application demands attention  (like clicking a firefox link when my firefox window is in another work space) that application will be focused?
[22:55] <ubuspire> arooni: Options Emulate3Buttons in your mouse section
[22:56] <gimbli> dataviruset: no problem. the best basic information for upstart i have found, by the way, is here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[22:56] <ubuspire> arooni that's on the ubuntu wiki - look up screen sharing. you need a vnc server on one side
[22:56] <ubuspire> arooni: ubuntu ships with one.
[22:56] <criss> hey thanks guys the swapFAW link help me big time i think i guess i need to reboot now to see if it works :o)
[22:56] <irnmn> I'm surprised opensource hasn't taken over.  I feel like an alcoholic.  Hi my name is ____, ive been windows free for a month.
[22:57] <Doonz> whats a good transfer speed on a raid 5 array using mdadm?
[22:57] <vonnick> Is there a way to let only certain websites use msttcorefonts?
[22:57] <vonnick> some sites are messed up with them
[22:57] <criss> yeah immn i totally agree with you im loving linux lol and all it has to offer
[22:58] <taofd> can anyone help with making compiz focus onto workspaces that require attention?
[22:58] <dataviruset> gimbli: haha, i googled for... like networking service start before and i saw that "upstart" thingy. i just "what's that?!" :D
[22:58] <irnmn> converted this asus n80vb from vista to ubuntu 9.10 x64 and havent had to look back
[22:58] <taofd> its really annoying when I click a URL and having to find where firefox is on another workspace
[22:58] <dAnon1> why do I lack the "windows printer via samba" option in my printer configuration?
[22:58] <dAnon1> 9.10 fresh install
[22:58] <w30> irnmn, got the shakes? HA
[22:59] <taofd> dAnon1, it should auto detect? I dunno, I've never had to specifically set it up...
[22:59] <jongbergs> criss: after reboot, verify the size of your swap by opening the terminal and typing the command sudo swapon -s
[22:59] <dataviruset> gimbli: how about a nice 'n fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10? :D
[22:59] <taofd> can anyone help with forcing compizto  focus  workspaces that require attention?
[22:59] <irnmn> i looked at switching to Fedora 12 but the only thing it trumped Ubuntu on was OpenGL tests
[22:59] <LetsGo67> My laptop turns off by itself, for no reason!  Help please!
[22:59] <taofd> can anyone help with forcing compiz to* focus  workspaces that require attention?
[22:59] <gimbli> dataviruset: of course it might, perhaps, fix the problem. but it would be cooler to solve it this way ;)
[23:00] <vonnick> Is there anyway to make wine use qt4? :(
[23:00] <taofd> anyone here use the new ibus input app? its kinda weird... doesn't work for me :(
[23:00] <dataviruset> gimbli: it's a bit annyoing that they haven't thought about this and fixed it in the "live upgrade command"
[23:00] <fcuk112> taofd: the new ibus rocks! :)
[23:00] <fcuk112> taofd: what problem are you having with it?
[23:01] <mindos> hi there. is there anybody to help me about chmod +x?
[23:01] <vonnick> what with?
[23:01] <taofd> fcuk112, when i set keys to enable it, they don't actually enable it... in particular i want to use my default language and japanese
[23:01] <gimbli> dataviruset: of course. but it worked out somehow on my desktop which i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 :(
[23:01] <fcuk112> taofd: you press ctrl-space to enable it?
[23:01] <gimbli> dataviruset: it would be nice to have something reproducable :)
[23:01] <dataviruset> gimbli: yeah, hehe
[23:01] <taofd> fcuk112, ctrl space would interfere w/ selecting files and folders
[23:02] <mindos> chmod +x linuxq3apoint-1.32b-3.x86.run