[16:37] <bastidrazor> silidan1, no.
[16:37] <Freddy2> hi
[16:37] <_kl_> Ребят есть живые кто?
[16:37] <ohir> rski: if no usb, no cd drive in machine (I assume its bad old blade server) you always can get off hdd and install system on other machine. Just add -server kernels by hand then
[16:37] <tonii> pelmen: you can damage components with charged up electrical in your body(depends on clothes), some times it shows up right away, some times it takes months for the damage to be noticable.
[16:37] <Freddy2> is there any repo for firefox 3.5 in hardy?
[16:37] <silidan1> hm.. maybe i should run asoundconf with sudo then?
[16:37] <_kl_> Русския есть?))
[16:38] <pelmen> how do i fix that ?
[16:38] <ohir> !ro | _kl_
[16:38] <mickster04> !ff35
[16:38] <ohir> !ru | _kl_
[16:38] <mazda01> bastid_razor, i didn't end up adding it in fear something like this would happen. I was going to add this repo: deb http://directhex.mfgames.com/ hardy main BUT when I tried adding the auth key synaptic crashed.
[16:38] <_kl_> ога- спос)
[16:38] <MK13> silidan1, if it only is wrong when you log in then it is your settings, not the root's or system's
[16:38] <silidan1> yea but if it is only my setting how else can i change them?
[16:38] <tschaka> pelmen funnily enough, just when i wrote you, my gnome freezed ...
[16:39] <bastidrazor> mazda01, that is not a good sign. adding third party repo's are dangerous.
[16:40] <mazda01> bastid_razor, i said I never added the key so it never tried to update anything. the problem occured with hardy ppa from launchpad for gnome-do .6.
[16:40] <tonii> pelmen: there are tools to lead away that sort of electricity, usually sold at the local computer shack. Anyhow, if possible try another OS to rule out ubuntu. and run some memory diagnostic tool to rule out mem-problem (usually available through the install cd).
[16:40] <n0gear>  nb
[16:40] <mazda01> bastid_razor, i did however enable the backports repo which may have screwed everything up!
[16:40] <pelmen> tonii: how does this message in kernel log sound, i am flooded with it:
[16:40] <pelmen> kernel: [  204.486307] Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=767960!
[16:40] <silidan1> what is the name of the app that is called when using system->settings->sound?
[16:42] <tonii> pelmen: looking it up now.
[16:42] <VCoolio> silidan1: gnome-sound-properties
[16:42] <mazda01> does anyone else use Hardy Heron with backports repo enabled?
[16:42] <del_diablo> Help >.< Xorg killed itself. The last adjustments to the system was adding 1 line in xorg.conf, which was for hibirnation
[16:44] <del_diablo> Removing the line did not solve the prolem
[16:44] <george1> Hi, i am a Linux newbee and i have a question which i would be able to answer if i was still using windows
[16:44] <tonii> pelmen: seems to be related to some wifi nic, can't find anything specific about that message.
[16:44] <^^gurami^^Dn> im not still complete downloading the linux ubuntu iso
[16:44] <tonii> rt2860
[16:44] <del_diablo> oh that card :P
[16:44] <del_diablo> update bios
[16:44] <^^gurami^^Dn> can i install via hard disk?
[16:45] <th0r> del_diablo: first step after installing linux on a laptop, disable hibernation and susped
[16:45] <^^gurami^^Dn> !ask
[16:45] <del_diablo> th0r: and exactly how do i do that?
[16:45] <^^gurami^^Dn> help again
[16:46] <th0r> del_diablo: in the power settings
[16:46] <rski> ^^gurami^^Dn: yes from cd to hard disk
[16:46] <del_diablo> th0r: im not on vanilla ubuntu anymore, its a clutter that i reconfigured over to openbox and removed gnome
[16:46] <del_diablo> th0r and no GUI >.< just the rootshell
[16:46] <^^gurami^^Dn> how about after i download a ubuntu
[16:47] <rski> ^^gurami^^Dn: how about it?
[16:47] <^^gurami^^Dn> i dont have cd burner
[16:47] <rski> borrow one
[16:47] <del_diablo> ^^gurami^^Dn: 1 gig usb pen + unetbootin?
[16:47] <^^gurami^^Dn> what if i boot in hard disk?
[16:48] <bastidrazor> mazda01, do you have any cd's in the drive? from my searches it shows that is possibly an issue.
[16:48] <rski> then you will boot from hard drisk
[16:48] <^^gurami^^Dn> i have extra hard disk
[16:48] <^^gurami^^Dn> great
[16:48] <^^gurami^^Dn> thanks
[16:48] <path1> I unplugged my primary hard disk, booted from ubuntu live CD and hotplugged my primary hard drive. how can i see wether it has been found by ubuntu? i want to repartition it. how can i do it?
[16:48] <pelmen> tonii: thanks man i'll try to go over all messages in logs just before freezes
[16:48] <george1> i have installed ubuntu on my thinkpad x31 2672 and everything works fine except the video and audio.  it seems that the drivers might not be the right ones?! videos (avi, wmv etc) do not play they just all look scrambled and the audio plays but is rubbish!! (youtube doesnt work either (i have all the flash bit and bobs installed) i have the latest 9.04. any ideas??
[16:49] <mazda01> bastid_razor, yes I do. I am trying to burn a dvd using tovid at this time but it's never been an issue before. I will remove the dvd so I can try to fix this permission issue.
[16:49] <^^gurami^^Dn> is it compatible in intel processor?
[16:49] <dakarn> path1: you want to change the partitions, or just format?
[16:49] <mazda01> bastid_razor, what are the permission of your users folder. ls -la /home/ | grep usernamehere
[16:49] <del_diablo> th0r: still, help <.< How do i force xorg to work?
[16:49] <george1> thinkpad is 'intell m'
[16:49] <tonii> pelmen: sounds like a good way to start troubleshooting :)
[16:49] <george1> sorry pentium
[16:50] <^^gurami^^Dn> i got a pentium 4
[16:50] <^^gurami^^Dn> will it run?
[16:50] <aethelrick> yes
[16:50] <^^gurami^^Dn> thanks
[16:50] <bazhang> !requirements > ^^gurami^^Dn
[16:50] <th0r> del_diablo: you might try to force it to reconfigure.....sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phig
[16:50] <boss_mc> -phigh
[16:51] <bastidrazor> mazda01, i gave that to you earlier.
[16:51] <l> hi
[16:51] <path1> Ok, it looks as if the system found my hard disk. Which file system shoul i use to format it?
[16:51] <rski> !best
[16:51] <del_diablo> th0r: did that one too <.<, also remove video drivers(fixed it for me last time), reinstalled them, and purged them, along with that
[16:51] <aethelrick> path1: for general purpose use I'd stick to ext3
[16:51] <boss_mc> path1: what OS's need to be able to read it?
[16:52] <path1> ubuntu
[16:52] <del_diablo> th0r: what is noteworthy is that my system do not display under most live CD's, but it runs under kvesa in puppy.
[16:52] <path1> @boss_mc ubuntu
[16:52] <dakarn> puppy has the worst package management ever :(
[16:52] <boss_mc> path1: then ext3 (for stability) or ext4 (for speed)
[16:53] <mazda01> bastid_razor, can you do me a favor and take a screenshot of your top level directory with a ls -la on it. so run, ls -la /    and then take a screenshot and paste it at imageshack.com PLEASE
[16:53] <path1> @boss_mc thx :) so i think i stick to ext3
[16:53] <boss_mc> path1: although the ubuntu ext4 is pretty stable too (I'm using it no probs)
[16:53] <aethelrick> be careful with ext4 if you run KDE apps... it has some known problems that can result in data loss
[16:53] <esb> in ext4 you will be able to defrag your disc..
[16:53] <del_diablo> dakarn: true, but it works as a live cd <.<
[16:53] <path1> @boss_mc or maybe ext4? i think i'll roll a die
[16:54] <del_diablo> Fedora live and netinstall do not work, debian used to work, other fail at the same spot: Monitor fails, most likely cuz of xorg'
[16:54] <boss_mc> path1: ext4 (the official one) has an issue where if it suddenly loses power, the data is not guarunteed to be written/indexed
[16:54] <dakarn> del_diablo so does knoppix hah\
[16:54] <george1> can anyone help me? or point me in the direction of some help? ----- i have installed ubuntu on my thinkpad x31 2672 and everything works fine except the video and audio.  it seems that the drivers might not be the right ones?! videos (avi, wmv etc) do not play they just all look scrambled and the audio plays but is rubbish!! (youtube doesnt work either (i have all the flash bit and bobs installed) i have the latest 9.04. a
[16:55] <del_diablo> dakarn: i would have, if i would a lite core iso <.<
[16:55] <del_diablo> dakarn: not tested it'
[16:55] <boss_mc> path1: but the ubuntu one uses the old writing system to prevent that issue (which means it's not as fast as 'real' ext4, but is faster than ext3)...
[16:55] <del_diablo> dakarn: but tested debian <.<
[16:55] <mazda01> bastid_razor, HA, it's because I ran out of space. I accidentally ran tovid_gui and it was writing to me /tmp folder and that partition only has like 8GB, so my / partition didn't ahve any space left on it.
[16:55] <path1> @boss_mc oh, thats a bad issue, because that what has happened to my system some time ago
[16:55] <boss_mc> path1: also, aethelrick, says KDE doesn't like ext4
[16:55] <boss_mc> path1: you can't go wrong with ext3
[16:55] <path1> @boss_mc i use gnome
[16:56] <bastidrazor> mazda01, ahh. i always have a place in my /home for temp files.. my /home partition is 300GB.. prevents that. glad you found the problem
[16:56] <path1> @boss_mc how many partitions should i create? my hard disk is 1 TB
[16:56] <boss_mc> path1: for the whole OS? or just data?
[16:56] <n0gear> is it as easy apt-get install xfce to put desktop env to server9.04?
[16:56] <path1> @boss_mc everything
[16:57] <aethelrick> yeah, the KDE issues are not really ext4 problems, rather some apps that made use of ext3 specific features
[16:57] <mazda01> bastid_razor, yeah. I usually run tovid_gui to write to my 500gb drive but forgot to change that setting in the begining. can you still please post that output I asked for as I think I may have changed some permissions while troubleshotting and I just wnat to make sure I have everything correct again. thanks so much if you can do this.
[16:57] <boss_mc> path1: my standard install is a little ext2 /boot partition, a larger ext3/4 root partition and the rest in /home
[16:57] <bastidrazor> mazda01, just in case though ..   http://yfrog.com/3hrootp
[16:57] <boss_mc> path1: and swap!
[16:57] <tdn> What is the recommended GUI SubVersion client for Ubuntu?
[16:58] <leifdk1978> hey guys have a quistion on blender and the guys that pack it
[16:58] <path1> maybe i just use a single partition? what are the disadvantages?
[16:58] <mazda01> bastid_razor, thanks, could you also tell me again permissions for your users home folder. THANKS
[16:58] <boss_mc> path1: with a seperate home partition, you can reinstall the OS without losing your personal data/settings
[16:59] <path1> sounds good
[16:59] <bastidrazor> mazda01, they are also captured on the screenshot.
[16:59] <kitty13Kitty> path1 what did you find out to be the problem?
[16:59] <boss_mc> path1: a separate /boot partition is useful for having multiple OS's (and early grub versions don't like booting from ext4...)
[16:59] <path1> @kitty13kitty i didnt find out anything... the problem is with the harddrive... but when i unplug it, i can boot from cdrom. While system is running, i hotplug my hard disk and partition it
[17:00] <rom1v> hi
[17:00] <leifdk1978> any one here that have response on blender.dep
[17:00] <rom1v> on a computer with intel gma945, the livecd doesn't launch in graphical mode (I have only a shell ubuntu@ubuntu$)
[17:00] <kitty13Kitty> probably can't set your cd/dvd as the first boot since you have sata, and it was probably trying to boot from hd still
[17:01] <kitty13Kitty> (my experience is that it just has the "boot from sata or scsi" but doesn't let you choose the device)
[17:01] <path1> @kitty13kitty maybe. i couldnt find out wether my board supports hotplug, but i just tried and it worked
[17:01] <mazda01> bastid_razor, thanks, so it's chmod 0755 for my users home directory
[17:01] <path1> lucky me
[17:01] <path1> :)
[17:01] <kitty13Kitty> heh
[17:02] <mazda01> bastid_razor, all fixed I hope.
[17:02] <mazda01> bastid_razor, synaptic is running again. gksudo nautilus is working again. ALL is good.
[17:02] <n0gear> !webmin
[17:02] <george1> video drivers on  thinkpad x31 2672 - anyone know where i can get alternative drivers?
[17:03] <gabkdlly> leifdk1978: if you want to get in touch with blender developers, check their site.  If you want to get in touch with the package maintainer, try launchpad.
[17:03] <leifdk1978> ahh ok thanx
[17:03] <bastidrazor> mazda01, good to know.. didn't know a full / would kill nautilus. good to make a note of.
[17:04] <Moult> how do i update my kernel on a computer without an internet connection (hence cannot through apt-get)
[17:04] <mazda01> bastid_razor, it pretty much killed everything.
[17:04] <gabkdlly> Moult: you can download the packages on another computer, and then install with dpkg
[17:05] <silidan1> still ubuntu doesnt play sound on the card i want, .asoundrc files in my home dir have no effect (at least when they are deletet)
[17:05] <Moult> gabkdlly: ok - where do i download the package? (my other computer is not a ubuntu computer)
[17:05] <mazda01> bastid_razor, i wish I had a script or something that would tell me / is full. like something that would run every 10 mins and if it's full, a warning would pop up or an email would get sent to me. do you knbow how to write bash scripts?
[17:05] <gabkdlly> Moult: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:05] <oOarthurOo> I installed office 2003 via wine, but then broke all my links. I'm trying to create new links, but can't find any office icons for the shortcuts. Where can I get them again?
[17:05] <mazda01> bastid_razor, i want a script to look at my trash bin every hour and then if it's higher then 1GB, i want it to empty the trash.
[17:05] <silidan1> when will ubuntu ever fix their stealthy settings hiding... where else are there settings regarding sound configuration ?
[17:06] <gabkdlly> Moult: dpkg -i linux.kernel.package.name.here.deb
[17:06] <del_diablo> silidan1: we can only pray <.<
[17:06] <gabkdlly> Moult: I think you will also need the headers, so don't forget those
[17:06] <gabkdlly> Moult: though you can check on packages.ubuntu.com what the depedencies are exactly
[17:07] <kitty13Kitty> if you just do the apt-get with the practice run you can get the package names for the ones it'll install, and you can always just download them all
[17:07] <Moult> gabkdlly: ok i want to 2.6.30-r10 kernel is this the one? http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/kernel-image-2.6.30-10-generic-di
[17:08] <bazhang> silidan1, you tried installing pavucontrol
[17:08] <bastidrazor> mazda01, no i wouldn't know how.
[17:08] <silidan1> i mean i set stuff trough system->settings->sound but ubuntu simply ignores these settings
[17:08] <oOarthurOo> They don't have to be the exact same icons, just any icons for microsoft office would be fune
[17:08] <oOarthurOo> fine*
[17:09] <kitty13Kitty> question, how do i change the repositories used, right now it points to the install cd (cdrom://) and i'm having problems with missing packages
[17:09] <silidan1> bazhang: no never heard of it will try
[17:09] <Moult> gabkdlly: i don't understand what is this "debian-installer" label it has? have i got the wrong one?
[17:09] <bazhang> silidan1, may be worth a shot
[17:10] <djdarkman> hello, where can I ask Ubuntu Netbook Remix questions?
[17:10] <bastidrazor> kitty13Kitty, synaptic>settings>repo's the very first tab will have an option for the CD .. uncheck it. reload
[17:10] <maty> hi im using ubuntu server and wondering how do i install .deb files?
[17:10] <kitty13Kitty> i can't get x running
[17:11] <scunizi> maty: dpkg -i <filename>
[17:11] <bazhang> maty, which deb files
[17:11] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: grapic card?
[17:11] <maty> DRBL
[17:11] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: and drivers?
[17:11] <scunizi> maty: or type aptitude for a cli graphical connection to the repos
[17:11] <bastidrazor> kitty13Kitty, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # on the line that calls for the CD
[17:11] <kitty13Kitty> no clue atm, it freezes everytime i run gdm
[17:11] <silidan1> nope pavucontrol gives only -5 no such driver
[17:11] <bazhang> maty, not in repos?
[17:11] <Moult> gabkdlly: the download is a .udeb file, not a .deb file - any hints?
[17:12] <maty> not sure but i was planing of downloading and SCPing it
[17:12] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: i suffer from the same thing <.<
[17:12] <silidan1> bazhang: no pavucontrol gives only -5 no such driver
[17:12] <kitty13Kitty> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release powerpc (20090421)]/ jaunty main restricted
[17:12] <kitty13Kitty> only line listed
[17:12] <bazhang> maty, always best to check if in repos first; what is the exact package name
[17:12] <oOarthurOo> Found a bunch on deviant art
[17:12] <julio_> hola q tal
[17:13] <julio_> me podrian ayuda r a configurar una red de area local en ubuntu porfa
[17:13] <scunizi> !es | julio_
[17:13] <diffred> julio_: es un chat ingles
[17:13] <bazhang> julio_, /join #ubuntu-es
[17:13] <julio_> ok gracias
[17:13] <gabkdlly> Moult: actually, what you are trying to do is a bit over my head
[17:14] <Moult> gabkdlly: i am trying to upgrade the kernel of a fresh kubuntu install that does not have an internet connection
[17:14] <kitty13Kitty> moult, easiest solution, get it to the internet
[17:14] <del_diablo> How do i repair my xorg? First it failed to detect displays, after attempting to reinstall grapic drivers it freezez after attempting to start(xdm, gdm, wdm login window)
[17:14] <Moult> kitty13Kitty: yes, and to do that i need the latest kernel
[17:14] <bazhang> Moult, that is not a wise decision
[17:14] <kitty13Kitty> doubtful
[17:14] <sunhao> hello
[17:15] <kitty13Kitty> del_diablo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:15] <Moult> bazhang: what, updating kernel?
[17:15] <bazhang> Moult, putting an unpatched (by Ubuntu) kernel, or one from a later release (ie Alpha) will break things
[17:16] <scunizi> bazhang: sounds like Moult can't get his nic or wireless card going without the latest kernel (via update I assume) and can't get to the internet without the new kernel
[17:16] <Moult> bazhang: i never said unpatched, i assume there are ubuntu packages for kernels in karmic
[17:16] <kitty13Kitty> anyluck there del diablo?
[17:16] <ohir> Moult apt-get -d linux-generic on some other machine (that has net) then retrive .debs from apt-get cache
[17:16] <Moult> scunizi: very right. not wireless byt the way
[17:16] <bazhang> scunizi, yep, wants to use Karmic kernel (breakage time)
[17:17]  * kitty13Kitty wonders if sshd freezes when running gdm...
[17:17] <ohir> Moult then get these packages via other means (lan/usb/courier pidgeons) to machine that need them
[17:17] <bazhang> Moult, that is not supported and will seriously compromise and break your system
[17:17] <scunizi> Moult: are you running Karmic or a different release?
[17:17] <bazhang> jaunty
[17:17] <scunizi> ah
[17:17] <Moult> scunizi: at the moment i have a kubuntu jaunty
[17:18] <scunizi> Moult: like bazhang says.. you're almost guaranteed a broken system if you try the karmac kernel on jaunty
[17:18] <bazhang> -almost
[17:18] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty:  no did not work, still get blank screen on attempting to start xorg <.<
[17:18] <gabkdlly> Moult: it might actually be easier in your case to compile the kernel yourself.  There is pretty good documentation available on how to do this for Ubuntu.
[17:19] <Moult> ok - any alternatives then?
[17:19] <Moult> gabkdlly: they recommended against an unpatched kernel?
[17:19] <scunizi> Moult: why not download the karmac alternate cd on another machine and use that to upgrade your machine?
[17:19] <Moult> scunizi: how would i do that?
[17:20] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: Any other suggestions <,<
[17:20] <del_diablo> ?
[17:20] <kitty13Kitty> check your config what does it say?
[17:20] <scunizi> Moult: I believe that the alternate gives "Upgrade" capability from one release to the next.. but of course.. you need another internet connected machine to dl the iso and burn it.
[17:21] <bazhang> Moult, help in #ubuntu+1 (but not recommended at all)
[17:21] <Moult> so what you are suggesting is install karmic
[17:21] <djdarkman> can somone tell me which is the Ubuntu Netbook Remix support channel?
[17:21] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: its completely "blank"(read: everything set to configure and default), with the excetion of 1 line under "Device" that is
[17:21] <bazhang> djdarkman, not sure if there is one, just ask here
[17:21] <scunizi> bazhang: is karmic +1 for support?
[17:22] <bazhang> scunizi, yep
[17:22] <del_diablo> "UseFBDdeb" "true"
[17:22] <kitty13Kitty> what machine are you using?
[17:22] <Moult> scunizi: are you suggesting i install karmic?
[17:22] <bazhang> Moult, not recommended,no
[17:22] <djdarkman> does someone know how can I add the keyboard layout switcher to the UNR desktop?
[17:22] <djdarkman> (panel)
[17:22] <gabkdlly> Moult: you are free to apply any patch you want, you can always tell grub to boot off a previous kernel if you run into problems.
[17:23] <scunizi> Moult: yes.. if you need the kernel but that is frought with issues because of the state of early development for karmic
[17:23] <protocols> are there know problems with the nforce4 chipset?
[17:23] <bazhang> djdarkman, not familiar with unr, does right click add to panel not do it?
[17:23] <mazda01> bastid_razor, how did you get your terminal transparent. when I do that it only shows my background picture within the transparency and not apps behind the terminal
[17:23] <gabkdlly> Moult: you might want to get comfortable with grub configuration first though, just in case
[17:24] <Moult> scunizi: ok i think i might be better off with another distro then
[17:24] <scunizi> bazhang: I get confused.. I've got a laptop w/ hardy, desktop w/intrepid .. haven't gone to jaunty yet and so my mind skips the fact that it is also available
[17:24] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: this little blackbox: http://ts.fujitsu.com/home/products/notebooks/amilo_pa_3553.html
[17:24] <djdarkman> bazhang: no, I can't add anything to the panel
[17:24] <bazhang> scunizi, yes, is confusing to me as well at times
[17:24] <scunizi> Moult: maybe.. you haven't really explaned why the new kernel is necessary other than to active internet.. is it just the nic card?
[17:24] <bazhang> djdarkman, let me check the forums
[17:24] <gabkdlly> Moult: yes, maybe, check around for hardware compatibility lists that meat your needs
[17:25] <Moult> scunizi: yes just to get internet
[17:25] <gabkdlly> Moult: perhaps one of the BSDs ?
[17:25] <kitty13Kitty> pastebin your lspci
[17:25] <Moult> gabkdlly: not going into bsd no thanks
[17:25] <djdarkman> I googled for it but didn't find any answere
[17:26] <scunizi> Moult: what's so unique about your nic card? see now everyone wants to help.. getting your nic to work shouldn't really involve a new kernel (you'd think anyway)
[17:26] <mazda01> can anyone help me figure out why when I try to add a Auth Key in the repo add screen, it crashes that dialog box. What log would I look at?
[17:26] <Moult> kitty13Kitty: ethernet controller attansic technology corp device 1063 (rev c0)
[17:26] <Moult> scunizi: ^ card
[17:26] <kitty13Kitty> del_diablo, pastebin your lspci and such
[17:27] <bazhang> djdarkman, you are wanting to edit the 'tabs' ?
[17:27] <Moult> scunizi: what's so unique? i don't know - it's a brand new laptop
[17:27] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: i wish i could <.<, i got it infront on me with no gui
[17:27] <bazhang> djdarkman, or the menu items
[17:27] <kitty13Kitty> ok, is it on the internet
[17:27] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: what exactly you want to know?
[17:27] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: nope <-<
[17:28] <Moult> scunizi: from what i've found out, it needs a atl1c driver for it to work, only currently available in newer kernels
[17:28] <kitty13Kitty> awww, can it be?
[17:28] <del_diablo> it could
[17:28] <kitty13Kitty> cause you can use the pastebinit cli tool to pastebinit
[17:28] <g-e> Hey People! Im trying to tune down my notebook so the fan keeps quiet. I have done this now: "powernowd -m 2 -v". I hope that keeps the cpu a bit more cool. But the fan still comes up from time to time. Any ideas?
[17:28] <kitty13Kitty> g-e live with it?
[17:28] <bazhang> djdarkman, tabs or menu
[17:28] <djdarkman> bazhang: I want to add the keyboard layout switching applet to the panel so that I can switch keyboard layouts
[17:28] <scunizi> Moult: this is mentioning older releases but it might give you some direction.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/77725
[17:29] <bazhang> djdarkman, seems alacarte can do that
[17:29] <djdarkman> bazhang: who/what is that and how?
[17:29] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: there it is
[17:29] <kitty13Kitty> there it is what?
[17:29] <bazhang> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-netbook-remix-904-hands djdarkman
[17:29] <bazhang> !info alacarte | djdarkman
[17:29] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: on the web
[17:30] <kitty13Kitty> yay, the web is mighty wide, wanna point me in the right direction?
[17:30] <bazhang> djdarkman, or just put in favorites, either way
[17:30] <scunizi> Moult: the L2 drivers seem to be supported. check this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man4/ae.4freebsd.html
[17:30] <mazda01> I figured it out, i hcan't do that when I have a blank cd or dvd in the drive. Weird bug filed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6473309
[17:31] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: it is connected with cable and got a IP, i understand its likely its going to be lspci + piping to the pastebin tool
[17:31] <kitty13Kitty> yeah
[17:31] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: but how <.<
[17:31] <FoolishOwl> I'd like to back up /home to DVDs. Would tar be adequate?
[17:31] <kitty13Kitty> apt-get install pastebinit
[17:31] <scunizi> Moult: Here's a patch.. maybe what you need. http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ubuntu.devel.kernel.general/2007-09/msg00067.html
[17:31] <kitty13Kitty> then pastebinit --help
[17:32] <bazhang> command | pastebinit del_diablo
[17:32] <del_diablo> ty
[17:32] <bazhang> then give us the url del_diablo
[17:32] <djdarkman> bazhang: you missunderstood me, I want to put an applet on the panel, not in the menu
[17:32] <Moult> scunizi: clicking the patch gives null
[17:33] <del_diablo> pastebin.com/f247188ef
[17:33] <bazhang> djdarkman, no idea then. sorry not to be more helpful
[17:33] <del_diablo> www.pastebin.com/f247188ef
[17:33] <scunizi> Moult: right click "save as" .. it's a .txt file .. open and look at it
[17:34] <scunizi> if you know what you're looking at.. I don't
[17:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Is there a way to send something through ssh that has a limit i.e. i wish to send a file but only 10GB of it and once it reaches that size it should stop sending?
[17:34] <Moult> scunizi: no, it's a page not found
[17:34] <erUSUL> Pirate_Hunter: split the file beforehand
[17:35] <kitty13Kitty> thats alot of stuff, and i see two video controllers listed?
[17:35] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: correct
[17:35] <Moult> scunizi: try clicking it - you will not get the file
[17:36] <FiReSTaRT> how can you kill a process if kill isn't doing it?
[17:36] <FiReSTaRT> i tried kill pid
[17:36] <Moult> FiremanEd: killall -9 name_of_process
[17:36] <scunizi> Moult: I was able to download it.. but looking at it, it appears to be html code with a note at the top stating that the page is AWOL
[17:36] <Moult> scunizi: yes, that is basically downloading the page not found page
[17:36] <FiReSTaRT> Moult: the process is still hanging around
[17:37] <Moult> FiremanEd: try pkill
[17:37] <Pirate_Hunter> erUSUL, i know i could do that but isn't there a way to just do it without having to split the files manually?
[17:37] <FiReSTaRT> Moult: pkill pid?
[17:37] <FiReSTaRT> still there
[17:37] <scunizi> Moult: obviously this has been an issue for some time... since the 6.10 release.. I would think that there would be something out there to activate that nic.  google seems to have tons of hits.. maybe a launchpad PPA
[17:38] <Manny-Calavera> hi guys, what irc client do you recommend?
[17:38] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: x-chat.. don't get the x-chat-gnome, get regular x-chat
[17:38] <papul_> Manny-Calavera, xchat
[17:38] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: iirc it comes stock with ubuntu
[17:38] <zenlunatic> Manny-Calavera, mirc
[17:38] <Moult> scunizi: what keywords are you looking for?
[17:39] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: if not, just use synaptic :)
[17:39] <Neremor> why is firefox 3.0 still the newest version in the repros? 3.5 is out for over a week, isn't it?
[17:39] <Manny-Calavera> FiReSTaRT: no xchat gnome? ok :)
[17:39] <bazhang> !ff35 | Neremor
[17:39] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: i think it lacks certain features and gives you absolutely zero advantages
[17:40] <kitty13Kittie> i love getting phone calls
[17:40] <FiReSTaRT> any other ideas to kill a process that refuses to die? kill pid, kill -9 pid, pkill -9 pid, killall -9 processname didn't work
[17:40] <x101> morning everyone
[17:40] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: any clues?
[17:40] <Manny-Calavera> FiReSTaRT: so the regular x-chat is the way to go, right? i'm new to Ubuntu. installed it this week for the first time. im still learning :)
[17:40] <scunizi> Moult: attansic ubuntu .. I'm looking here now.. https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=attansic
[17:40] <BromaxSux> Manny-Calavera : then just use the one thats with pidgin
[17:41] <x101> i am looking for some help. i'm really new to linux/ubuntu, and i'm having some hardware problems with my hp g60 104ca
[17:41] <kitty13Kittie> umm not really, did you get my comment about 2 display adapters?
[17:41] <x101> mostly with the keyboard and screen resolution
[17:41] <Manny-Calavera> BromaxSux: i tried using it, but i didn't like it.
[17:41] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: exactly :) go with it and you're golden... you can also use kvirc (but u gotta install a bunch of kde crap along with it and lots of people dont like the way it looks) and there's the chatzilla plugin for firefox
[17:41]  * FiReSTaRT personally using xchat
[17:42] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: i did, there is the vga out + 2 GPUs(which is not running in dualmodus) + the hdmi out
[17:42] <del_diablo> kitty13Kitty: and its a laptop
[17:42] <Manny-Calavera> FiReSTaRT: i don't like chatzilla. don't know why, never got used to it. and i prefer to have a stand alone client :)
[17:42] <kitty13Kittie> so which one interfaces to the screen in the computer?
[17:42] <ohir> FiReSTaRT, Manny-Calavera: and many other clients. with the most powerful actually - irrsi. But..
[17:42] <ohir> !best
[17:43] <del_diablo> kitty13Kittie: its suppose to be 0
[17:43] <del_diablo> kitty13Kittie: display 0
[17:43] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: in that case xchat is the way to go.. might not be able to see pretty colors but it does the trick and the UI is fairly neat :)
[17:43] <x101> my screen's native resolution is 1366x768, but i can't set it to anything higher than 920X540
[17:44] <Manny-Calavera> FiReSTaRT: i don't care about pretty colors :D i just want a good and robust piece of software
[17:44] <del_diablo> Manny-Calavera: what about a cli IRC client? :P
[17:44] <FiReSTaRT> Manny-Calavera: xchat will do the trick
[17:45] <del_diablo> kitty13Kittie: which is the interal one
[17:45] <x101> does anyone have any advice?
[17:45] <Manny-Calavera> del_diablo: never tried one, and i'm still intimidated by cli apps :P
[17:45] <Manny-Calavera> have to read some good tutorials first
[17:45] <kitty13Kittie> del_diablo, can you ssh into the laptop from your other computer, and launch gdm and get some of the logs from it?
[17:45] <del_diablo> kitty13Kittie: got xdm
[17:45] <kitty13Kittie> whatever
[17:45] <kitty13Kittie> it'll work
[17:46]  * kitty13Kittie kicks kitty13kitty and wonders how long it takes to time out damn it anyways
[17:46] <scunizi> Moult: maybe .. just maybe..if you have another old nic you can put in the machine do that and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .. and hopefully that will pull in the driver..
[17:46] <Moult> scunizi: no other nic sorry
[17:48] <ohir> Moult: you always may remove your hd put it in usb case and get deb s you need somewhere else
[17:48] <Manny-Calavera> btw guys, sorry to bother you, but tell me of a good rss agregator
[17:48] <kitty13Kittie> brb
[17:48] <Moult> ohir: i'm not sure you entirely understand the situation
[17:48] <ohir> !best | Manny-Calavera
[17:48] <gabkdlly> Manny-Calavera: google reader is my choice
[17:48]  * FiReSTaRT bbiab
[17:48] <x101> bye all
[17:48] <gabkdlly> Manny-Calavera: gpodder for media other than text
[17:48] <Manny-Calavera> i know there is no "best" app, but it's always nice to read oppinions :)
[17:49] <kitty21> ok thats just disturbing
[17:49] <scunizi> Manny-Calavera: then that would be a poll
[17:49] <del_diablo> kitty13Kittie: my slow line <.<
[17:49] <gabkdlly> Moult: maybe you can pick up an old ethernet card from somewhere
[17:49] <ohir> Moult: so describe situation again in short. I assume you need update machine with no net connection
[17:50] <Manny-Calavera> gabkdlly: gonna try it. i listen/watch a lot of podcasts. thank you very much
[17:50] <Moult> ohir: at the moment i'm trying to get online. ignore the updating for now
[17:50] <gabkdlly> Manny-Calavera: then miro is also worth a look
[17:50] <scunizi> ohir: Moult is on Jaunty with no support in the kernel for his attansic nic.. we're trying to figure out how to get it and install it.. but having problems locating it.
[17:51] <scunizi> ohir: the support might be in the updates but alas .. you can't update without an internet connection.. and aptoncd would be useless in this case.
[17:51] <ohir> Moult: sounds like kernel recompiling on that machine. Possibly bringing in some old nic module
[17:52] <scunizi> ohir: it is in the karmac kernel but he shouldn't go there.
[17:52] <Guest49824> any clues on the eth0 wired adapter not working on 9.04 ? have hp pavillion and it worked b4 the upgrade
[17:52] <scunizi> ohir: actually modprobe would work if the driver was avaible.. at least according to what I've read so far.
[17:52] <ohir> scunizi: but he certainly cant try to patch jaunty kernel tree with module from karmic
[17:53] <scunizi> ohir: can't or can ?
[17:53] <ohir> can
[17:53] <ohir> oops
[17:53] <scunizi> ohir: that's beyond my abilities.. I'm not sure if he wants to go there ..but if you know how and he's willing.. go for it.
[17:54] <del_diablo> god i hate ssh <.<
[17:54] <ohir> Moult: I assume you have other means to get files on this machine (cd/usb/whatever)?
[17:54] <scunizi> del_diablo: why?
[17:54] <Moult> ohir: yes
[17:54] <del_diablo> no easy way to setup for simple tasks <.<
[17:54] <MementoMori> hi
[17:54] <th0r> del_diablo: what do you want to do?
[17:54] <ohir> Moult: do you know which module you need?
[17:55] <del_diablo> i need to get a log over to this computer, i got ssh on my other(ubuntu one)
[17:55] <del_diablo> installed openssh client for windows
[17:55] <skoef> act
[17:55] <kitty21> pastebinit!
[17:55] <Moult> ohir: one opensuse guy somehow found online it was atl1c, but i'm running the 2.6.30-r10 kernel on my machine right now and i can't find that. so now i'm not too sure
[17:55] <kitty21> cat whatever > pastebinit!
[17:55] <scunizi> del_diablo: scp should do it
[17:55] <MementoMori> places->computer crashes nautilus and makes the desktop icons disappear. is this a know problem?
[17:55] <del_diablo> ?
[17:56] <del_diablo> it crashes when i start xdm
[17:56] <th0r> del_diablo: putty will do ssh on this end. If you want to transfer the from ubuntu to windows look for winscp
[17:56] <kitty21> i'm looking for your /var/log/Xorg.whatever log that is refered to when you do a ps aux | grep xdm
[17:56] <del_diablo> and i got /var and /tmp in tmpfs(ram)
[17:56] <papul> how do i add a dock?
[17:56] <yacoob> Hello. Do you know of any existing efforts to create ubuntu build environment under OSX?
[17:56] <papul> as in osx
[17:56] <ohir> Moult: if you do, you need to ask uncle google or other search engine, what the net knows about backporting this module to 2.5.24 line
[17:57] <scunizi> del_diablo: you're trying to start a graphical environment in ssh? you need to read more on how that works.. better to learn the cli commands to get things done.. screen helps too.
[17:57] <del_diablo> http://pastebin.com/f7b68e2bb
[17:57] <del_diablo> for kittty
[17:57] <ohir> Moult: I assume its new nic, not ancient one
[17:57] <kitty21> thats not exactly what i wanted
[17:57] <kitty21> but close
[17:58] <Guest49824> papul, are you on the water?
[17:58] <scunizi> ohir: it's been around for some time.. launchpad is riddled with bug reports
[17:58] <Moult> ohir: yes
[17:58] <del_diablo> scunizi: i would, if i actually got any use for it. I do not at the moment <.<
[17:58] <kitty21> what command are you going to use to invoke your graphical user interface ?
[17:58] <scunizi> ohir: probably since 6.10
[17:58] <ohir> Moult: /var/log/dmesg should hint you about how it is seen by kernel now
[17:58] <del_diablo> either: xdm, xinit, startx
[17:59] <del_diablo> all 3 of em gives the same problem <,<
[17:59] <kitty21> you got your ssh axs into the other box, start up x, then ps aux | and grep for whichever one you used, and see if it has a log file in the command line for x
[17:59] <kitty21> i know
[17:59] <kitty21> we're getting the log file
[17:59] <Moult> ohir: it is not seen. because there is no support.
[17:59] <kitty21> root      2330  0.0  0.6   3504   988 ?        S    21:40   0:00 xinit /etc/gdm/failsafeXinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:59] <kitty21> is what mine says when i run gdm
[17:59] <scunizi> del_diablo: with ssh you have to set the environment.. you cant just ssh into the box cold without any other peramiters and expect x to run
[18:00] <kitty21> and in my xorg.conf it is telling me that hald is not running and it can't detect anything because it isn't running
[18:01] <ohir> Moult: if its old one but was taken because of bugs, odds are that it still is in kernel source tree and can be simply compiled in
[18:01] <del_diablo> kitty21: how do i ssh into it? the documentation is standard level: a complete mess.'
[18:01] <kitty21> apt-get install ssh
[18:01] <kitty21> it'll install the openssh client and server
[18:01] <del_diablo> did do tyhat
[18:02] <Moult> ohir: i'm sorry -what are you trying to say
[18:02] <kitty21> you can then download a program like "putty" and ssh into the computer
[18:02] <kitty21> www.google.com and search for putty.exe and it'll be like the first link there
[18:02] <ohir> Moult: but if its so buggy it was blacklisted, I would suggest buying usb nic
[18:02] <ravigehlot> I know how to see how much free ram memory I have installed on my computer but I am having problems seeing what type of RAM memory I have installed on my PC. Anybody can help there?
[18:02] <Moult> ohir: what are you saying
[18:02] <tARrAScH> Hi, my CD has got stuck in the tray (part of the problem is that it also refuses to get mounted). Is this a normal issue? I also in desperation tried 'sudo umount /media/cdromX', but as usual nothing good came out of me trying to use the Console :)
[18:02] <scunizi> del_diablo: there's all kinds of how to's on the net .. google ssh remote x
[18:02] <Phantazus> Which app for managing my Ipod - Amarok or Banshee or something else?
[18:02] <ohir> Moult: ever compiled kernel yourself?
[18:03] <laughzilla> hi :) what's a good 3gp > avi or 3gp > mpeg  converter that i can install on my ubuntu box via synaptic package manager?
[18:03] <Guest49824> dmesg shows eth0 correctly identified, then later shows link not ready. ?
[18:03] <scunizi> !ipod | Phantazus
[18:03] <kitty21> scunizi i'm helping him thanks for quoting google
[18:03] <del_diablo> kitty21: ok, got putty inn
[18:03] <sachael> how can I feed a list of files to the rm command?
[18:03] <scunizi> kitty21: go for it..
[18:03] <deany> laughzilla, ffmpeg, but to convert 3gp you need to compile your own with the libamr libs enabled
[18:03] <Phantazus> thanks
[18:04] <laughzilla> deany yes i have ffmpeg , i was wondering if there's something even better ... {aka: easier for dummies who like GUI like me}
[18:04] <Moult> ohir: yes i have compiled a kernel myself
[18:04] <deany> hmm..
[18:04] <djdarkman> are there any gconf gurus around here?
[18:04] <kitty21> so del_diablo, when you're into your box over ssh, its just like you're at the console, if you startx, it'll popup on your laptop, it'll freeze like normal, but you can still use the ssh client to kill your xdm or whatever you ran so you can get more information
[18:05] <ohir> Moult: I am saying, that there is a chance that this nic module can be compiled in or compiled for current jaunty kernel, but it needs skill to do so (and skill to know when to give it up)
[18:05] <del_diablo> kitty21: ...... and how do i set up the ssh?
[18:05] <deany> laughzilla, winff
[18:05] <kitty21> cd /etc/init.d
[18:05] <kitty21> ./ssh start
[18:05] <laughzilla> deany - i know how to use ffmpeg, it's fine, it's just .. i dunno ... i'd prefer to use something that's more visual :)  thanks, i'll look into winff  !
[18:05] <del_diablo> cd init.d
[18:05] <kitty21> close :P
[18:06] <gabkdlly> sachael: xargs
[18:06] <del_diablo> ok
[18:06] <kitty21> open putty on your other computer
[18:06] <ohir> Moult: scunizi said this nic has been taken off somewhere at 6.10, so it really was buggy and your odds to get it compiled are small and to have stable connection are tiny
[18:06] <scunizi> ohir: not taken off but bug against it since then
[18:06] <Moult> scunizi: i don't think he said that.
[18:06] <kitty21> and itll have a "hostname" and "protocol", pop in your other machines ip, and leave it as ssh (22) and hit go
[18:06] <scunizi> *bugs
[18:07] <ohir> Moult: so if machine has usb2 or pcmcia I personally would spend a few bucks and use something supported. USB or pcmcia nic.
[18:07] <Moult> ohir: not to be rude but i think you are going the wrong way about this
[18:07] <tARrAScH> oh nevermind everybody, seems I already managed to got it out I see when I look at my irl desktop, must had a blackout or something. Sorry /leaves
[18:07] <kitty21> can someone explain to me what i did wrong that noting in my /etc/init.d/ works? everytime i try to start or stop a daemon it just says "Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing."
[18:07] <ohir> Moult: it also is possible :) errare humanum est
[18:08] <kitty21> del_diablo, any luck connecting yet?
[18:08] <ohir> Moult: if you know make menuconfig give it try then and see
[18:08] <del_diablo> not yet
[18:08] <kitty21> difficulties?
[18:09] <ohir> Moult: if module code is not in current tree git co it from vanila kernel repository and try to compile it that way
[18:09] <scunizi> kitty21: startting and stopping .. sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop/start/restart .. if you're working with ssh at cli on a remote machine "screen" might be your friend but that's another story.
[18:09] <Moult> ohir: ok. are you suggesting i get an unpatched kernel?
[18:09] <del_diablo> just forgot my hostname'
[18:09] <kitty21> scunizi either way, even during startup it is saying that
[18:10] <ohir> Moult: I am suggesting you should patch current jaunty kernel tree with that particular module code
[18:10] <kitty21> ifconfig will give you the ip address on the other box
[18:10] <Moult> ohir: oh, and you propose to do that with an unpatched kernel, or nonexistant buggy patched kernel? either way doesn't sound good
[18:11] <ohir> Moult: you may try to use vanila kernel with jaunty, but no one guarantee it will work (esp hal subsystem)
[18:11] <del_diablo> k
[18:11] <magnetron> hi! In Jaunty, what's the key shortcut in Totem for adjust the window to the video?
[18:11] <ohir> Moult: I asked if you know about the ways kernel is build. You said yes and I was basing on it.
[18:11] <del_diablo> ok'
[18:11] <del_diablo> got it running'
[18:12] <del_diablo> it was /var/ where`?
[18:12] <ohir> Moult: I said _current_your_distro_kernel_+nic_module_from_somewhere_else
[18:12] <Moult> ohir: yes, and like you said doing it off a vanilla kernel is not a good idea
[18:12] <kitty21> what did you use to start x?
[18:12] <del_diablo> xmd
[18:12] <del_diablo> xdm*
[18:12] <kitty21> ps aux | grep xdm
[18:13] <kitty21> you see a line with -logfile /var/log/....
[18:13] <del_diablo> delly     3231  0.0  0.0   3340   780 pts/0    D+   19:13   0:00 grep xdm
[18:13] <Pirate_Hunter> is 9.04 server edition light on low end machines or should i just grab the minimalist iso?
[18:13] <kitty21> grrr, try ps aux | grep xinit
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: 8.04.2 is recommended for servers.  LTS for servers is recommended
[18:14] <scunizi> Pirate_Hunter: yes.. it's light.. 8.04 is supported for 5 years ..9.04 18 months
[18:14] <gabkdlly> Pirate_Hunter: all CD come with an option to install a command line system, as far as I know
[18:14] <del_diablo> delly     3235  0.0  0.0   3340   792 pts/0    R+   19:14   0:00 grep xinit
[18:14] <ohir> Moult: you need to get current jaunty kernel sources and patch it with your out_of_jaunty_kernel_module (from Linus repositories supposedly). Then compile. Then - if it will compile - boot it and see if all these bug reports were sincere.
[18:14] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: server edition will not run smooth for desktop use.
[18:14] <kitty21> ps aux | grep /usr/bin/X
[18:14] <kitty21> we'll narrow it down yet!
[18:15] <scunizi> magnetron: you can always throw the desktop kernel on it.. if you're not building a production machine
[18:15] <del_diablo> delly     3241  0.0  0.0   3340   800 pts/0    R+   19:15   0:00 grep /usr/bin/X
[18:15] <ohir> Moult: it is doable but needs advanced knowledge how to do it and how to do it right. You either can learn or you can get another nic. That is what I have said so far.
[18:15] <kitty21> ok lies there has to be more then one line
[18:15] <magnetron> scunizi: he was comparing ubuntu-minimal to the server version
[18:16] <joel__> does k9copy make the copy region free by default?
[18:16] <kitty21> you did start up xdm right?
[18:16] <kitty21> xdm(
[18:16] <del_diablo> yupp
[18:16] <Pirate_Hunter> magnetron: i dont mind not going to use desktop feature, however afetr trying the minimal iso on a different machine i noticed too many things were missing and that caused a lot of problems
[18:16] <scunizi> magnetron: k
[18:16] <kitty21> and you get the nice warning message ?
[18:16] <del_diablo> not in ssh
[18:16] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: "missing"?
[18:16] <kitty21> well check your /var/log
[18:17] <kitty21> and look for Xorg.0
[18:17] <kitty21> and start reading it from the top
[18:17] <snikker> hi, someone can help me with an usb wireless card (chip realtek 8187L)... i i'm unable to get it working...
[18:18] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, scunizi, gabkdlly yeah thanks saw the lts wasn't sure if i should get that one still will try it out even knowing 9.04 desktop edition seems to run smoothly (that is why i chose it as a server option)
[18:19] <scunizi> Pirate_Hunter: depends do you  want a desktop or a server? if you get the server and add the desktop bits then support is only 3 years
[18:19] <Pirate_Hunter> magnetron, eeerh yup having to download packages that should be common
[18:19] <Speeder> hello!
[18:19] <coz_> snikker,  look here  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1159526
[18:19] <Pirate_Hunter> scunizi, nah for the machine im going to be working on im going to use the server edition since i need it as a server
[18:19] <scunizi> k
[18:20] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: you don't really seem to know what you are looking for
[18:20] <Pirate_Hunter> before i forget is there a way to host my sites through my isp even if i dont have a static ip?
[18:20] <lojak> hi, I recently installed the newest version of ubuntu, and in the system monitor it shows the cpu at a consistant 100%, but it doesnt seem like any of the listed processes are causing it, anyone have any clue why?
[18:20] <Pirate_Hunter> magnetron, i do im just a confusing person (which is not a good thing)
[18:20] <Speeder> I am not a ubuntu user, but I want to ask this on the biggest channel of the network, because on my distro channel noone knew the awnser: There are a way to unblock NTFS without booting windows? (my windows don't boot anymore, but my in-development stuff is on NTFS parts...)
[18:20] <coz_> snikker,  does this connect but you cant browse??
[18:21] <scunizi> Pirate_Hunter: dyndns.com I believe.. and a router.. and setting the incoming port to something other than 80
[18:21] <snikker> coz_: but i've got rtl8187L, not rtl8187se. it's the same?
[18:21] <Pirate_Hunter> scunizi, oh ok will check it out now before i forget
[18:21] <x-jd-x> I am trying to mount a samba share with mount.cifs. The directory I am using for the mount has 770 permissions. When I mount the share would like there permissions to apply to sub directories. Unfortunately I get 755. Any ideas how to get this working?
[18:21] <tlyng> is there a way to reduce the sensitivity of the synaptic touchpad? i have a lot of random touchpad clicks when typing on my keyboard :/
[18:21] <coz_> snikker,   probably no t  hold on
[18:21] <ohir> Speeder: boot up ubuntu live and mount your ntfs partition
[18:21] <mgmidget> realtek rtl8139 not working in jaunty, worked in previous. any ideas? (wired adapter)
[18:21] <magnetron> Pirate_Hunter: your computer doesn't run slower just because you install more packages. either you need a package or you don't.
[18:22] <Speeder> ohir: ubuntu live has software to mount ntfs???
[18:22] <del_diablo> http://pastebay.com/27394
[18:22] <Speeder> I mean, mounst badly dismounted ntfs
[18:22] <ohir> Speeder: likely it will get automounted. Then copy your stuff to usb or other partition
[18:22] <ghostofaphoenix> Hi there, I am trying to install the gstreamer bad plugins but I get this error:  libgmyth0  but it is not installable
[18:22] <ohir> Speeder: since 7.04 afair
[18:22] <del_diablo> the xorg listing is far too long, and i got no I similar key on the keyboard z.z'
[18:22] <snikker> coz_:  btw i'm unable to load iwlan0...  io've probed rtl8187 module, but nothing to do...
[18:22] <Speeder> ohir: what is the name of the ntfs mount that ignore ntfs lock?
[18:23] <anto9us> ghostofaphoenix, do sudo apt-get update and try again
[18:23] <Speeder> I will see if I can install it on fedora (my current distro)
[18:23] <ghostofaphoenix> thank I will
[18:23] <x-jd-x> anyone up for a samba question?
[18:23] <coz_> snikker,   ok check here as well  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1126401   I am not really skilled at wireless set up but googling has brought up some interesting posts
[18:23] <ohir> Speeder: don't know.
[18:23] <dakarn> !ask |x-jd-x
[18:23] <scunizi> ghostofaphoenix: use the full update path for your install.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:23] <kitty21> ok, i'm getting no where with the forums, i'm having a problem with all my daemons being filtered from running from the /etc/init.d directory, anyone familiar or able to help me trouble shoot?
[18:23] <del_diablo> got around the problem on the missing key: http://pastebin.com/f75e5ef23
[18:23] <Speeder> :(
[18:24] <x-jd-x> I am trying to mount a samba share with mount.cifs. The directory I am using for the mount has 770 permissions. When I mount the share would like there permissions to apply to sub directories. Unfortunately I get 755. Any ideas how to get this working?
[18:24] <Speeder> I am not a ubuntu user, but I want to ask this on the biggest channel of the network, because on my distro channel noone knew the awnser: There are a way to unblock NTFS without booting windows? (my windows don't boot anymore, but my in-development stuff is on NTFS parts...)
[18:24] <ohir> Speeder: load jaunty iso or usb image and try yourself
[18:24] <magnetron> x-jd-x: this would be an option to the mount command.
[18:24] <ghostofaphoenix> will dist-upgrade upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?
[18:24] <magnetron> x-jd-x: umask or similar
[18:24] <purepain> does anyone know when/if there will be a 64 bit support for pptpconfig?
[18:24] <del_diablo> kitty21: the only help i got on that is that if you make the files there unable to execute, they won
[18:24] <del_diablo> t?t run'
[18:24] <ohir> Speeder: on live you at least will have ro mounted your ntfs partitions
[18:24] <scunizi> Speeder: sometimes there is a --force option.. use at your own risk.. google for howto's
[18:25] <kitty21> is this the EXACT same problem you are having?
[18:25] <Speeder> ohir: I don't have a place to burn the image, also I have no disk, and also I need to downlaod it :P
[18:25] <x-jd-x> I have tried file_mask=0770 and dir_mask=0770 but they do not change anything
[18:25] <stovicek> Speeder: this doesn't help: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#ntfs  ??
[18:25] <Speeder> scunizi: humm... I wonder how dangerous it is
[18:25] <Speeder> stovicek: my problem is that the ntfs drive is locked because windows bsoded
[18:25] <ohir> Speeder: you also has no ntfs support on that machine it seems, so whatever
[18:25] <snikker> coz_:  nothing...
[18:26] <Speeder> stovicek: so the regular way to mount ntfs don't work
[18:26] <scunizi> Speeder: depends.. booting into windows to fix may be less risky
[18:26] <kitty21> /etc/init.d/ssh statt .. * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd .. Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing..
[18:26] <del_diablo> kitty21: ran into a major problem with mpd, which resulted in figuring out how to disable deamosn on that dir
[18:26] <Pirate_Hunter> magnetron, i didnt say the computer run slower i said it was too minimalist and i had to get the packages needed that is if i could remember them
[18:26] <Speeder> scunizi: my windows don't boot anymore, that is my problem...
[18:26] <coz_> snikker,  mm  ok then I am at a loss and will let someone pick up from here ...sorry I couldnt help more
[18:26] <Speeder> scunizi: it bsods on boot and resets.
[18:26] <kitty21> i am trying to install jakalope on an old imac
[18:26] <snikker> coz_:  thanks anyway :)
[18:26] <mgmidget> realtek rtl8139 not working in jaunty, worked in previous. any ideas? (wired adapter)
[18:26] <kitty21> and the damn thing won't run any of the daemons from the init.d folder
[18:27] <kitty21> so nothing works right
[18:27] <kitty21> del_diablo, you wannt try "ps aux | grep hal"
[18:27] <ohir> Speeder: man mount.ntfs
[18:27] <kitty21> and see if your hardware abstraction layer daemon is running?
[18:27] <scunizi> Speeder: then you only have one option .. try it.. via live cd or with your distro.. I don't know the howto specifics to do it.. but someone will or google.
[18:27] <anto9us> sppeder,try using the force option on your mount command
[18:27] <stovicek> Speeder: you should still be able to read the data if bsods. you sure the hard drive isn't corrupted?
[18:27] <ohir> Speeder: on your system as ubuntu's may be way ahead of what you have there
[18:28] <ohir> Speeder: yep, if even old ntfsfs won't mount ro, its suspicious
[18:28] <FoolishOwl> quit
[18:28] <FoolishOwl> exit
[18:28] <del_diablo> delly     3381  0.0  0.0   3340   792 pts/0    R+   19:28   0:00 grep hal
[18:29] <kitty21> so its not, that your problem
[18:29] <kitty21> can you start it from the /etc/init.d/ directory ?
[18:30] <Speeder> stovicek: the hd is not corrupted... I am using it now :P People on ##windows think that I got a virus (a anti-spyware popped and I stupidly clicked scan... but the software that it imitated don't pops up like that...)
[18:30] <ghostofaphoenix> No dice, even after running the commands it gives same error even in terminal
[18:30] <del_diablo>  /etc/init.d/ha restartl ?
[18:30] <Speeder> ohir: how do you know what I have???
[18:30] <kitty21> yeah close enough :P
[18:31] <ohir> Speeder: don't know what do you have, I know you have not ubuntu :>
[18:31] <del_diablo> hal restarted
[18:31] <Speeder> ohir: erm...
[18:31] <del_diablo> delly     3451  0.0  0.0   3340   796 pts/0    R+   19:31   0:00 grep hal
[18:32] <ohir> Speeder: your hardware can be intact, your windoze partition certainly may not.
[18:32] <kitty21> obviously it isn't started if you're not seeing hald running there somewhere
[18:32] <stovicek> Speeder: maybe you need to run a fsck on the partition first
[18:33] <ohir> Speeder: even old ntfsfs modules should not refute to mount ro
[18:33] <del_diablo> delly@delly-laptop:/var/log$ sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[18:33] <del_diablo> [sudo] password for delly:
[18:33] <del_diablo>  * Restarting Hardware abstraction layer hald                                   delly@delly-laptop:/var/log$ ps aux | grep hal
[18:33] <del_diablo> delly     3451  0.0  0.0   3340   796 pts/0    R+   19:31   0:00 grep hal
[18:33] <del_diablo> delly@delly-laptop:/var/log$ delly     3451  0.0  0.0   3340   796 pts/0    R+   19:31   0:00 grep hal
[18:33] <del_diablo> its close enogh
[18:33] <FloodBot2> del_diablo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <Speeder> what is ro?
[18:34] <scunizi> read only
[18:35] <kitty21> del_diablo: http://pastebin.com/m1615f3fd
[18:35] <ghostofaphoenix> When I try to install gstreamer through terminal I get the same error but then it says E: Broken Packages, is that the problem
[18:35] <ohir> stovicek: I would not suggest running ntfs fsck even
[18:35] <ohir> Speeder: what ntfs-3g.probe says on that partition?
[18:36] <Speeder> ohir: I am tring to figure where are my partition :/
[18:36] <del_diablo> i guess you got xorg up running in contrast
[18:36] <kitty21> no its my laptop
[18:36] <Speeder> I don't remember how to do it, too many time using dolphin with automount
[18:36] <del_diablo> so cli only and no gui?
[18:36] <kitty21> the imac still isn't working properly
[18:36] <ohir> Speeder: cat /etc/fstab
[18:37]  * kitty21 needs help with /etc/init.d problems
[18:37] <Speeder> ohir: it is nearly empty
[18:37] <Speeder> fstab
[18:37] <Speeder> some bizarre mount system is used :/
[18:38] <ohir> Speeder: first probe, then (I think that this part is hibernated and thats why it can't be right now mounted) then dehibernate it
[18:38] <del_diablo> i think il just dig up the ubuntu CD and reinstall everything instead <.<
[18:38] <ohir> Speeder: fdisk -l /dev/sdX X means which physical hd likely sda
[18:39] <milou> hello everybody
[18:39] <Speeder> ohir: cool
[18:39] <mgmidget> hello do your wired connection lites blink?
[18:39] <Speeder> thanks
[18:39] <ohir> Speeder: then manually mount it with force
[18:39] <mgmidget> mine dont :(
[18:39] <scunizi> ohir: unless his system is still using hdaX type references.
[18:39] <del_diablo> just 1 last question: How do i force xorg to only use 1 video card? Aka forcing it onyo that 1, and how do i detect what is needed to put in?
[18:39] <ohir> first probe it and see what probe says is wrong
[18:40] <Speeder> ohir: probe  sayas unclean filesystem
[18:40] <Speeder> :/
[18:40] <ohir> Speeder: so force it ro
[18:40] <Speeder> ohir: ro will not corrupt it?
[18:41] <Speeder> I wonder why not ro will corrupt it :/
[18:41] <ohir> Speeder: ro ReadOnly
[18:41] <ohir> Speeder: Read, Only == No Writes Allowed
[18:41] <RentonX> join #g8
[18:41] <Speeder> erm...
[18:42] <kitty21> del_diablo by default you only have it use one at a time, you have to go in and add separate adapters to go dual head
[18:42]  * Speeder will play with ntfs commands that show when he write ntfs and press tab twice
[18:42] <kitty21> i don't think there was a good cli/gui for dualhead setup you pretty much have to edit the config by hand
[18:42] <ohir> Speeder: better play with man command. Precisely: man -k ntfs
[18:42] <Speeder> ohir: yes :P
[18:42] <Speeder> I wonder what ntfsfix do
[18:42] <dakarn> 1, 2, 4  read write execute respectively
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> ntfsfix just flags the ntfs filesystem as beeing cleanly unmounted.. it dosent really 'fix' anything - from whate ive read.
[18:43] <Paddy_NI> Dr_Willis: no it does not
[18:43] <ohir> Speeder: no linux ntfs* command can restore your windoze. It would be anticompetitive.
[18:43] <Paddy_NI> only as you say.. cleanly unmounted or in need of a chkdsk
[18:44] <Speeder> ohir: I don't want to restore windows :P
[18:44] <ohir> Speeder: except an ancient one, namely dd command :>
[18:44] <Paddy_NI> I think it can perform a chkdsk not sure
[18:44] <Speeder> ohir:  I want to continue coding my allegro game :P
[18:44] <del_diablo> kitty21, i do know. But i think that forcing 1 of them to work instead of random erros that might get in could owrk
[18:44] <Speeder> I am making a multiplatform game, so I made it on a way that I can compile it on both windows and linux without doing anything but changing target on codeblocks
[18:44] <Speeder> really cool :)
[18:44] <kitty21> well your problem is similar to mine
[18:44] <kitty21> you're hald isn't running
[18:44] <del_diablo> kitty21: setting the config is not a problem, only if i get a way to input it
[18:44] <JonathanEllis> Hi, I keep getting this error after I log in         The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:Deskbar_Applet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?         I have googled this and found loads of pages with this error and even a workaround but I still dont understand what the error means and whether the workaround is appropriate to my system. I have just done a fresh install of Ubuntu Studio 8.04 and installed all t
[18:44] <kitty21> meaning x won't autodetect any adapters
[18:45] <kitty21> and your keyboard/mouse won't work either
[18:45] <Speeder> ohir: I will test ntfs commands on C:
[18:45] <Speeder> it if fucks it, there are no problem anyway (I don't put data on C:... only windows itself, that is fucked anyway)
[18:45] <del_diablo> kitty21, but what caised it`?
[18:45] <kitty21> ???
[18:45] <ohir> Speeder: you have been given enough knowledge to mount your ntfs partition read only, so go for your sources. And then use C::B on linux. It works here native.
[18:46] <del_diablo> kitty21: it worked before, and last time this happend i managed to fix it
[18:46] <th0r> JonathanEllis: the error simply means that one of the applets you had on one of the panels cannot be loaded any more. If you choose to delete it that shouldn't hurt anything as that applet couldn't load anyway
[18:46] <kitty21> restart *shrug*
[18:46] <silidan1> what can affect audio out on ubuntu ( which config files) ?
[18:46] <Speeder> ohir: I know that it works native >.<
[18:46] <kitty21> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should auto setup your config file
[18:46] <JonathanEllis> th0r: Thanks. I guess this may be because I have re-mounted my home partition from a previous install
[18:46] <kitty21> but hald isn't giving it all the info it needs
[18:46] <Speeder> ohir: it just that I was using the folder on NTFS for both windows and linux work :P
[18:47] <djXternal> Need some help with install 9.04, the cd gets to the main menu, but selecting any option results in "Kernel Panic: not syncing"
[18:47] <Speeder> ohir ntfsfix seemly is awesome
[18:47] <Speeder> I ran it on C: and now it mounts corretly, and seemly nothing got corrupted
[18:47] <techqbert> Is there any feasible way to stream over NFS/OpenVPN a 480p video on a consumer-grade comcast line withou tthe video stuttering?
[18:47] <Speeder> even with write enabled
[18:47] <th0r> JonathanEllis: quite possibly. You probably had an applet on a previous panel that is installed now
[18:47] <Speeder> I wonder how to check if it got corrupted or not
[18:47] <ohir> Speeder: use windoze under virtualbox, better and will give you many test scenarios
[18:47] <x-jd-x> ok I was able to get my samba issue solved by disabling the the LinuxExtensions. Does anyone know why linux extensions would be preventing file_mode and dir_mode from working and how to solve it on the server side?
[18:47] <rakudave> JonathanEllis: Reinstall it or use Gnome Do instead... I prefer Gonme Do
[18:47] <silidan1> xjXternal: how did oyu burn the iso?
[18:48] <Speeder> ohir: I can't because I use some really awesomely heavy software on windows that make virtualbox crawl
[18:48] <ohir> Speeder: also you will see if your game have chance on something less than core-eight with eight gig ram
[18:48] <silidan1> djXternal: how did you brun the iso?
[18:48] <kitty21> del_diablo http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193406&highlight=hald+problems
[18:48] <kitty21> is what i'm working on
[18:48] <JonathanEllis> rakudave: Reinstall what?  What is it?
[18:49] <rski> !ff 35
[18:49] <rski> !ff 3.5
[18:49] <bullgard4> What does 'PWLib' stand for in the terminal output of '~$ ekiga -d 4'?
[18:49] <rski> Bah.
[18:49] <Speeder> ohir: I wonder why  in fact (my game on windows use directdraw, and it don't ever use alpha, it was made to work on really old machines... but on linux it runs slow :( )
[18:49] <gangil> !ff35
[18:49] <ohir> Speeder: get more OpenGL clases, will help with linux suckiness
[18:49]  * Dr_Willis removes rski's spaces
[18:49] <silidan1> djXternal: when i burned mine with nero i set it to disk at once some option i think lock disc or something
[18:50] <leifdk1978> ?any one know if back ports is avaleble for blender 2,49a
[18:50] <th0r> JonathanEllis: it is a search applet, available in the repos
[18:50] <silidan1> djXternal: try also a lower speed
[18:50] <rakudave> JonathanEllis: Well if you dont need it, you wont miss it :-) It's similar to OS X's "spotlight"
[18:50] <MrKeuner> !firefox
[18:50] <Speeder> ohir that is what I figured too... but my game was not made to use OpenGL in first place (it is one of its origian ldesign goals... don't use OpenGL, because windows default OpenGL suck, and in my country lots of people still use windows default OpenGL because graphic cards with good drivers are awesomely expensive)
[18:50] <MrKeuner> !firefox-3.5
[18:51] <ohir> Speeder: because on linux native acceleration is OpenGL. Which is as well avaliable on windoze. And you use M$ technology which is somewhat 'emulated' on gtk layer on linux
[18:51] <nubuntutoo> I don't know
[18:51] <JonathanEllis> rakudave: Thanks. I dont think I ever used it. Is it like a gui version of grep?
[18:51] <mib486> i installed ndiswrapper via console but id like it to appear in the "applications" as an icon, how do i do?
[18:51] <nubuntutoo> try PCLinuxos and upgrading
[18:51] <nubuntutoo> apt-get install blender
[18:52] <djXternal> silidan1: ok trying to burn at a lower speed, any other thoughts if that doesnt work?
[18:52] <leifdk1978> nubuntutoo: yeah but that si 2,48
[18:52] <rakudave> JonathanEllis: Not exactly... look at http://projects.gnome.org/deskbar-applet/screenshots.html
[18:52] <silidan1> djXternal: also try to set to disc at once
[18:52] <Speeder> ohir: I don't use directdraw on linux (I dunno what the lib uses in fact... but certainly is not DDraw)
[18:52] <djXternal> silidan1: I have no option for that let me try it with Toast
[18:52] <JonathanEllis> mib486: Right click on the applications menu and click edit menu. Then add an item to the appropriate menu
[18:52] <melchmon360> Hey does anyone know of a program like "sticky windows" on osx or Nubs in windows?
[18:53] <silidan1> djXternal: maybe something like raw write would also work not sure tough
[18:53] <nubuntutoo> oh it is .. my bad
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> melchmon360:  clarify what the app does to the channel.
[18:53] <ohir> Speeder: don't know not seeing sources. Anyway, gotta go. Good luck with your restored ntfs acces.
[18:53] <MHz128> is there a camera plugin for Pidgin?
[18:53] <silidan1> djXternal: also make sure to "close" the disk
[18:53] <melchmon360> Dr_Willis, http://www.donelleschi.com/stickywindows/
[18:54] <JonathanEllis> rakudave: Thanks
[18:54] <Speeder> ohir thanks!
[18:54] <kitty21> what is the cli program to change your package sources and mirrors?
[18:54] <mib486> alright, how can i run ndiswrapper's gui? if i type ndiswrapper in a terminal i only have an output but the gui won't start, how do i run it?
[18:54] <melchmon360> Does anyone know where I could get a ubutnu version of http://www.donelleschi.com/stickywindows/
[18:54] <Flannel> kitty21: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:54] <tyranos> is there a way to sync my mails from laptop to desktop pc and viceversa ???
[18:54] <deany> uh, just trying out opera, im a fan of firefox but thought i`d try it anyway.  how do you get flash working?  its working in FF
[18:54] <kitty21> yes it has one line in it
[18:54] <kitty21> congrats that didn't help much
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> melchmon360:  thats not really clarifing what the app does to the channel. :) not everyone in here has a web browser.. or want to go to some URL to read/figure out the actual question.
[18:55] <JonathanEllis> mib486: Sorry I dont know anything about ndiswrapper, just how to add an extra icon to the applications menu. How do you usually start it?
[18:55] <abioticrhyme> can anyone help me with apache2?
[18:55] <Flannel> kitty21: That's the file you edit to modify your sources.  What are you specifically trying to do?  Also, please ditch the attitude.
[18:55] <vulcar> lo, I have a slight problem with Jaunty - I can get sound from to play through my usb headset if it is an mp3 or movie or local file, I can get youtube to play through my totem movie player, but I cannot get any sound to play via my web browser, firefox. I have checked and rechecked the sound preferences.
[18:55] <Flannel> !anyone | abioticrhyme
[18:55] <melchmon360> Dr_Willis, The app lets u tab any window to any edge of your screen. Is it possible to do this with linux
[18:55] <magnetron> vulcar: use padevchooser
[18:56] <Speeder> someone know a antivirus to clean windows from linux?
[18:56] <judgen> What is the replacement package name for nvidia-glx-new?
[18:56] <judgen> Speeder ClamAV
[18:56] <kitty21> i never got to choose the mirror or package repositories after installing, i can't get into X to choose them from the sources manager, and the only one in the file is pointing to the install cd
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> melchmon360:  never noticed..  never tried..  perhaps ask in the ubuntu forums.
[18:56] <abioticrhyme> I am trying to set up apache to work with subdomains gallery.mydomain.com but I can not seem to get it to work
[18:56] <tyranos> how can i sync my mails ??
[18:56] <melchmon360> Dr_Willis, i have with no luck.
[18:56] <melchmon360> It's the last feature I need to make me love ubuntu over osx
[18:57] <vulcar> magentron, I am assuming that is not installed by default correct?
[18:57] <melchmon360> Dr_Willis, and yes I know that is stupid but it's just how I work
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> melchmon360:  sounds like a rather trivial feature... i will stick with Ubuntu over OS-X for a dozen+ Other reasons...
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> I got 2 monitors.. i dont need no little tabs :)
[18:57] <MaYobi> hello every one
[18:57] <DaveAlpha> howdy
[18:57] <vulcar> magnetron, I am assuming that is not installed by default correct?
[18:57] <kitty21> flannel: i never got to choose the mirror or package repositories after installing, i can't get into X to choose them from the sources manager, and the only one in the file is pointing to the install cd, and i'm trying to update packages to see if it will fix my issues
[18:58] <melchmon360> Dr_Willis, I am using synergy with my mbp and my ubuntu desktop. I wish I could have two monitors
[18:58] <MaYobi> eny body know why Firefox don't play movies on youtube?
[18:58] <Flannel> kitty21: Alright.  So your sources.list only has the CD repository in it?
[18:58] <melchmon360> MaYobi, do you have flash installed?
[18:58] <MaYobi> Flash player i'm setup
[18:58] <kitty21> flannel: Yes
[18:58] <vulcar> MaYobi, do you have 65bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[18:58] <Flannel> kitty21: Which version of Ubuntu?
[18:58] <nubuntutoo> you need to upgrade to flash 10 i think
[18:58] <MaYobi> vulcar, 32
[18:58] <MaYobi> melchmon360, yes/
[18:59] <DaveAlpha> hi Nyx
[18:59] <melchmon360> MaYobi, how did you install it
[18:59] <vulcar> MaYobi, get the newest version, restart firefox and it should work like a champ
[18:59] <kitty21> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release powerpc (20090421)]/ jaunty main restricted
[18:59] <vulcar> MaYobi, another way to play youtube videos is via the totem movie player
[18:59] <melchmon360> MaYobi, run firefox from the terminal and pastbin the terminal. if what vulcar suggested doesn't work
[18:59] <kitty21> which should answer any other soon questions to be
[18:59] <MaYobi> melchmon360, from site
[18:59] <Flannel> kitty21: Oh, power PC.  Let me ... double check PPC repos
[18:59] <melchmon360> MaYobi, I suggest using the repos
[19:00] <melchmon360> MaYobi, It is your best bet
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> PowerPC linux -  Egads.. Im going to go hide now...
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[19:00] <melchmon360> MaYobi, If you're new try this site
[19:00] <scunizi> kitty21: use Flannel 's nic every time .. this is a large channel.. type the first few characters and hit TAB for auto completion
[19:00] <melchmon360> MaYobi, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Adobe_Flash_Player_for_Firefox_Plug-in
[19:00] <DaveAlpha> back
[19:01] <xtalmath> Laptop with windows vista boot partition, installed ubuntu 32 then ubuntu 64bit, started using latter more and more, decided to use bootcd to delete 32bit jaunty and grow 64bit one over... grub gives error 15
[19:01] <abioticrhyme> where do I create my virtual hosts for apache on the sites available or enabled or am I supposed to to it in both of them?
[19:01] <MaYobi> melchmon360, apt-get say, i have a set new version
[19:02] <melchmon360> MaYobi, what does "apt-get" say mean?
[19:02] <MaYobi> melchmon360, video on youtube loade, but i see only black screen
[19:02] <del_diablo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204941 help <.< and kitty, thanks for the help so far
[19:03] <melchmon360> MaYobi, oh that could be a slow internet conection. What happens on hulu
[19:03] <MaYobi> melchmon360, sorry i'm don't cnow how it's say on english, i have a russian version )
[19:03] <nasrullah> hi
[19:03] <melchmon360> MaYobi, Commy! lol
[19:03] <MaYobi> melchmon360, what is "hulu" mean?
[19:04] <kitty21> anyone else using a powerpc?
[19:04] <nasrullah> i have a problem my gmail and msn are not working in pidgin your help pls
[19:04] <DaveAlpha> nooo
[19:04] <Flannel> kitty21: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210487/
[19:04] <Flannel> kitty21: Add those to your sources.list
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> kitty21:  ive had such hassles with PPC linux. its scary....
[19:04] <JonathanEllis> !pidgin @ nasrullah
[19:04] <_kl_> nasrullah, тут вроде русские убунтисты общаются))
[19:04] <JonathanEllis> !pidgin
[19:04] <_kl_> ой))
[19:04] <MaYobi> вот те и ой
[19:04] <_kl_> ошибсо дверью)
[19:04] <MaYobi> :)
[19:05] <MaYobi> _kl_ ты знаешь пендосский? )
[19:05] <Flannel> !ru | MaYobi, _kl_
[19:05] <anto9us> xtalmath, there's instructions to recover grub here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:05] <_kl_> MaYobi, ну чуточку))
[19:05] <nubuntutoo> is ubuntu better then PCLinuxOS ?
[19:05] <DaveAlpha> woaah... ubottu gone all mult-lingual.... *hides again*
[19:05] <vulcar> magnetron, Hey I installed padevchooser and i have created a local server, connected to the local server then tried firefox still a no go on sound.
[19:05] <tyranos> hi people how do u sync ur emails ????
[19:05] <_kl_> pentos Ubuntu Rullezz
[19:06] <MaYobi> _kl_ ya ne mogu im obyasnit' chto u menya flash ne pashet ))
[19:06] <nasrullah> i need your help pls
[19:06] <MaYobi> _kl_ ladno, sha eshe razok poprobuyou :)
[19:06] <_kl_> MaYobi, а нафига ты им то обьясняешь?))
[19:06] <Flannel> MaYobi, _kl_: Please speak english in this channel.  Thanks
[19:06] <del_diablo> nubuntutoo: yes and no. It supports shit, and is setup for ya. And its bloat as hell along with GNOME.
[19:06] <xtalmath> thanks anto9us
[19:06] <_kl_> yes of course
[19:06] <MaYobi> _kl_ dak blin, flash ne pashet (
[19:06] <scunizi> !ru
[19:06] <johannes_> hi I run a ubuntu fileserver and usually connect to it via  ssh but I cant even ping it by now, I logged into the server but dont know, where to look for the problem, what would you do?
[19:06] <MaYobi> _kl_ youtube ne proigrivaetsya :)
[19:07] <_kl_> MaYobi, you is insert in socket&)
[19:07] <MoltenBobcat> johannes_: try to ssh localhost on the machin
[19:07] <MoltenBobcat> after you are logged in
[19:07] <_kl_> MaYobi, you need download Flash Players)
[19:07] <MaYobi> _kl_ eeii ti che mne tut toje v amerikosi zapisalso? ))
[19:07] <_kl_> MaYobi, hi
[19:07] <MaYobi> _kl_ skachal ya flesh, on ne pashet... chernii ekran
[19:08] <MoltenBobcat> johannes_: do an ifconfig make sure the interface has an ip address
[19:08] <_kl_> MaYobi, г ьутнф ещоу)))
[19:08] <_kl_> MaYobi, u men9 toge)
[19:08] <MaYobi> _kl_ toje ne pashet ? O_O
[19:08] <Flannel> MaYobi, _kl_: Please speak english.  We have other channels for other languages.
[19:09] <_kl_> MaYobi, toje 4erniy ekran)
[19:09] <johannes_> MoltenBobcat no it doesnt, though the leds for physical connection are alight
[19:09] <_kl_> MaYobi, ya dumal on rabotaet tak)
[19:09] <MaYobi> хехе ))
[19:09] <MoltenBobcat> johannes_: try doing an /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:09] <_kl_> pentos!
[19:09] <MaYobi> Peoples, why flash dosn't play on youtubes? ?
[19:10] <MaYobi> i mean, play but i have a black screen
[19:10] <raddar> install adobe flash player
[19:10] <MaYobi> i'm not baby, i'm install flash!!
[19:10]  * KB1JWQ shakes head
[19:10] <johannes_> MoltenBobcat that did not help
[19:10] <KB1JWQ> MaYobi: They mean the one from Adobe.  Not the distro packaged version.
[19:10] <MaYobi> ruslanr- токо тут какой то фуфломёт залупается, Фланнел которйы... грит мол "идите отсюда" ))
[19:11] <KB1JWQ> !ubuntu-ru
[19:11] <vulcar> lo, I have a slight problem with Jaunty - I can get sound from to play through my usb headset if it is an mp3 or movie or local file, I can get youtube to play through my totem movie player, but I cannot get any sound to play via my web browser, firefox. I have checked and rechecked the sound preferences. I recently installed padevchooser by Magnetron's request but he has stepped away or is unavailable, I have setup a local sound server in
[19:11] <vulcar>  padevchooser and configured it to what I think is proper since there is no documentation via website. Why can i hear sound from youtube via totem but not the web browser, flash is installed and video plays in firefox.
[19:11] <MaYobi> KB1JWQ i'm install from adobe site.
[19:11] <MaYobi> KB1JWQ i'm download deb version and install him
[19:11] <raddar> MaYobi are you using firefox?
[19:11] <MaYobi> raddar, yes
[19:12] <ohir> melchmon360: all you need is to apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager and then set stickeness there
[19:12] <ttilberg> I know ATI R3xx gfx cards aren't well supported, but desktop effects did work, and now does not: Originally installed jaunty upgrade from Intrepid-- for current user account, no change. For other new user accounts however, the graphics support somehow appeared. Today I installed Jaunty from scratch, originally no work out of box. I reinstalled it because of a problem with installing fedora, and it suddenly worked out of box again
[19:12] <vulcar> MaYobi, it may be better to uninstall, download the tar and reinstall.
[19:12] <KB1JWQ> MaYobi: Yes, because installing Debian packages in Ubuntu always ends so well.
[19:12] <scunizi> ttilberg: it's using the generic driver
[19:13] <ohir> melchmon360: be aware though fullfledged compiz needs power graphics card
[19:13] <MaYobi> vulcar ok, i'l try now, thanks
[19:13] <kitty21> flannel: ok, now that i did the apt-get update, now i can't apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...
[19:13] <ttilberg> scunizi: Which it was doing before as well -- In intrepid when I would switch to the ATI, it was horrible- and dual screen support was terrible. The open driver was perfect, and before allowed advanced graphics on desktop
[19:13] <melchmon360> ohir, wait, can i do like tabbed windows
[19:14] <Flannel> kitty21: Please pastebin the output of : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:14] <nasrullah> i need english not russian pls
[19:14] <ohir> melchmon360: miniature tabbed app windows are known as 'shelf effect' afaik
[19:14] <nasrullah> pidgin problem your help pls
[19:14] <ttilberg> Actually... I wonder if it has less to do with updating software (as I know support was dropped even more recently) -- and wonder if it has to do with enabling dual screen and removing mirror~ ?   I'm going to test that. Thanks to those listening :D
[19:15] <ohir> melchmon360: and can be configured to work with keys (usually M$key+something)
[19:15] <MaT-dg> whats a good html/js/php/css/... editor (with autocompletion)?
[19:15] <p0v3rty> hey guys. how can i fix a bad username login for undernet in xchat?
[19:15] <kitty21> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/210494/
[19:16] <kitty21> flannel i added back the cdrom pointer and updated again, and it let me
[19:16] <ohir> melchmon360: you also can look for many compiz plugins taht are not yet in ubuntu's inventory but are known to compile clean and work with
[19:16] <vulcar> magnetron, You rock, thanks for the padevchooser software, I got it working properly
[19:16] <Flannel> kitty21: Alright, those repos are wrong for some reason.
[19:16] <kitty21> i looked at the forums
[19:16] <kitty21> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714&highlight=powerpc+repositories
[19:16] <taTe> hello
[19:16] <kitty21> but thats for fiesty
[19:16] <johannes_> I changed the network card from marvell to nvidia but I still dont get an IP adress
[19:17] <scunizi> !who
[19:17] <logicalghost> Hello
[19:18] <Flannel> kitty21: As far as I can see, those URLs should be valid.  I can see them with my web browser, not sure why apt isn't seeing them.  Oh.  Can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[19:18] <logicalghost> I hate to ask this, but I need help getting ubuntu off my computer. I didn't partition, I just put ubuntu on the whole thing, and it turns out I have to switch back to windows.
[19:18] <evertom> ola pesoal
[19:18] <loserbar> kitty21: your apt is trying to reach http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu which is incorrect. it should read http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists
[19:19] <mib486> how do i run ndiswrapper?
[19:19] <johannes_> "ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>" doesnt help to ping it from a different PC
[19:19] <ttilberg> Very interesting. In the past, when the R3XX open driver did work with advanced gfx in Jaunty (before I reinstalled) -- dual screen, without screen mirroring worked great. Apparently however, I am unable now to set it to un-mirror my dual screen setup, and still use advanced effects. Any ideas of how to get more information, or file a bug report (and to where... launchpad?)
[19:19] <scunizi> logicalghost: why not load windows in a vm in virtuabox
[19:19] <gabkdlly> logicalghost: insert your windows CD/DVD, and follow instruction
[19:19] <MoltenBobcat> logicalghost: just install windows over ubuntu delete all the existinging partitions it will overwrite everything
[19:19] <scunizi> logicalghost: you'll have the best of both worlds.
[19:19] <gabkdlly> logicalghost: do a backup first, if required
[19:19] <Flannel> kitty21: there's an extra /ubuntu/ in the URL which shouldn't be there.  Do you have "ports.ubuntu.com jaunty" or "ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty"?
[19:19] <melchmon360> ohir, shelf affect?
[19:19] <logicalghost> I can't partition because there isn't enough space, and I'm trying to use the windows disk but it keeps saying "no free space."
[19:20] <epaphus> Anybody have any contact for OpenBSD consultants that can help a company configure their systems with OpenBSD?  Specifically configure logsentry and any other tool to monitor the system more efficiently?
[19:20] <Flannel> kitty21: Also, check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for files (check the contents for additional lines)
[19:20] <p0v3rty> what option allows me to view the users of a channel in the side bar?
[19:20] <Flannel> epaphus: You'd probably want to ask the openBSD people.
[19:20] <bullgard4> Where can I find the Ubuntu source code files of the Ekiga program?
[19:20] <kitty21> i copied/pasted from your pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/210487/
[19:20] <epaphus> Flannel, LOL, sorry
[19:20] <macondo> For some reason I can't eject my cd drive physically (pressing the button), is there any way I can do this from ubuntu itself?
[19:20] <th0r> p0v3rty: View-Userlist?
[19:20] <ohir> melchmon360: go to compiz settings manager (cmms on console or thru the administration menu) and fiddle
[19:20] <Flannel> kitty21: Oh, then that's my fault.  I thought I fixed that.  Let me get you a new pastebin.
[19:20] <Seeker`> macondo: type "eject" in to the command line
[19:20] <logicalghost> It's not actually a windows disk, I think it's set to reinstall the factory image, which I would assume means that I have to reformat the hard drive first?
[19:21] <ttilberg> marcondo: you can try in nautilus, your CD drive should have a little ^ next to it. You can try clicking that
[19:21] <p0v3rty> sorry i feel like a retard now heh
[19:21] <MoltenBobcat> logicalghost: you have to delete the partitions first
[19:21] <bullgard4> macondo: Physically overrides electronical means.
[19:21] <Flannel> kitty21: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210497/  Use that instead.
[19:21] <ttilberg> macondo: or do what seeker said lol
[19:21] <logicalghost> MoltenBobcat: How?
[19:21] <scunizi> logicalghost: yes that would be true.. but if you boot directly to that cd it should give you the option of deleting partitions.. do that
[19:21] <macondo> Hmm, it just doesn't eject. Maybe it's broken.
[19:21] <The_Cog> macondo: try sudo unount -l /dev/cdrom
[19:21] <MoltenBobcat> logicalghost: the windows installer allows you to do it... if you have some type of recovery disk you may not be able to
[19:21] <logicalghost> scunizi: It's not giving me that option.
[19:22] <ttilberg> macondo: make sure thats "unmount" not "unount" :)
[19:22] <MoltenBobcat> if thats the case I'd suggest downloading a copy of gparted
[19:22] <macondo> Yes, I know.
[19:22] <logicalghost> MoltenBobcat: I am unfortunately an idiot and didn't make a recovery disk properly.
[19:22] <scunizi> logicalghost: then you'll have to use your ubuntu live cd and the partition manager on it to delete the partitions.. then the win installer will work
[19:22] <MoltenBobcat> logicalghost: so do you have any way to get windows back onto this machine?
[19:22] <MoltenBobcat> logicalghost: oh you should listen to scunizi that's a easier option
[19:22] <The_Cog> macondo: correction: try sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[19:22] <logicalghost> scunizi: How do I do that?
[19:23] <scunizi> logicalghost: put the live cd in the cdrom and boot to it.. once the desktop is up go to system>Admin>Partition Editor.. from there you can delete all the partitions.
[19:24] <logicalghost> scunizi: So "Try Ubuntu Without Making Changes to your System" is booting from the CD?
[19:24] <macondo> Hmm it must be broken. The cd drive just doesn't open.
[19:24] <Pranka> After re-installing Ubuntu 9.04, Swap partition wasn't mounted, and when I try to mount it, I receive the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210500/
[19:25] <Krenari1> i need help about ip
[19:25] <raddar> macondo use a needle for manual cd eject;)
[19:25] <scunizi> logicalghost: yes
[19:25] <logicalghost> scunizi: Thank you, I will try that
[19:25] <macondo> raddar: do I have to insert it in the small hole?
[19:25] <stevecoh1> I am using Ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Inspiron 530.  My problem is that boot sequence is flaky.  That is, SOMETIMES, it boots up fine, other times, I get to the Ubuntu orange bar screen and the orange bar goes back and forth forever.  What is it looking for and not finding, and how can I fix this?
[19:25] <Krenari1> sorry im new in ubuntu. how can i know what ip i have on my lan
[19:25] <Krenari1> ?
[19:25] <raddar> macondo yes
[19:25] <logicalghost> macondo: Or a paperclip
[19:25] <kitty21> pranka if you're sure thats your swap partition, then go ahead and mkswap /dev/sda5 and then mount it
[19:25] <raddar> small needle is fine
[19:26] <th0r> Krenari1: open a terminal and type 'ifconfig'
[19:26] <scunizi> logicalghost: you'll have two partitions to delete.. or should anyway
[19:26] <Pranka> kitty21: thanks
[19:26] <Flannel> Pranka: Try just 'swapon -a'  (check to see if it's in your fstab, if not, you need to add it)
[19:26] <Pranka> Flannel: I have tried with the UUID, then replaced it with /dev/sda5. Still no luck
[19:27] <Krenari1> th0r: thnx
[19:27] <Pranka> I will go by kitty21's advice and mkswap
[19:27] <macondo> Ah cool. The drive is plain dead.
[19:27] <stevecoh1> I am using Ubuntu 8.04 on a Dell Inspiron 530.  My problem is that boot sequence is flaky.  That is, SOMETIMES, it boots up fine, other times, I get to the Ubuntu orange bar screen and the orange bar goes back and forth forever.  What is it looking for and not finding, and how can I fix this?
[19:27] <macondo> But I managed to extract the precious cd.
[19:27] <kitty21> you'll still have to check if its in fstab for it to be auto activated, but yeah if its not a swap partition then you'll be spinning wheels either way :P
[19:28] <scunizi> stevecoh1: might be a drive going bad
[19:28] <Krenari1> th0r: im trying to make my pc with dynamic DNS, but i cant forward ports from my rooter to my pc. how can i see what port is apatch using
[19:28] <Krenari1> ?
[19:28] <stevecoh1> I don't believe so.  It has been this way ever since I got it.
[19:28] <kitty21> Krenari1, apache normally uses 80... but you can set it to whatever you want
[19:28] <raddar> macondo good for you
[19:28] <scunizi> Krenari1: apache uses port 80 by default.. most ISP's block port 80
[19:28] <th0r> Krenari1: if you are talking about apache, about a webserver, it is port 80
[19:29] <macondo> Good for me!
[19:29] <stevecoh1> I've checked the drive and it never complains.
[19:29] <Pranka> kitty21: mkswap did work, thank you for your help
[19:29] <kitty21> pranka, make sure its in fstab
[19:29] <stevecoh1> If it isn't the drive, can it be something else?
[19:29] <Krenari1> How can i change default port to 8080
[19:29] <kitty21> so it gets auto activated on boot
[19:29] <raddar> macondo always look at the bright side:)
[19:29] <sdlwof> any decent software for ripping audio tracks out of avi's, running them though filters, then combining them again? maybe not 1 program to do all...
[19:29] <macondo> raddar: it burns my eyes!
[19:30] <th0r> scunizi: if the ISP blocked port 80, you couldn't browse the web
[19:30] <Pranka> kitty21: i can view it in fstab
[19:30] <KB1JWQ> Krenari1: the Listen directive.
[19:30] <kitty21> ok
[19:30] <macondo> Is there a diagnostic tool I could use to know what's happening to the drive? My burning application won't recognize it.
[19:30] <Pranka> thanks again
[19:30] <Surlent777> hey, does anyone have any idea why a few custom compiz plugins I installed uncheck themselves about a second after I check them? They otherwise seem to work; I can edit their settings and ccsm will warn me of conflicts...
[19:30] <scunizi> th0r: on the inbound side
[19:31] <stevecoh1> Again, I don't think there is anything wrong with the drive.  What else could cause the flaky booting.  Anything?
[19:31] <scunizi> th0r: most ISP block the inbound side so you CAN'T run a server. It's typically against their use policy
[19:32] <th0r> scunizi: I have run a server at home a number of times, and never run into that. Course, things are getting weirder by the day on the net
[19:32] <stevecoh1> Is there any way to make the Ubuntu boot sequence less opaque?  That is, see what's behind the orange bars?
[19:32] <melchmon360> Does anyone know where I could find something that allows me to tab any windows I have open? There is a program for this on mac called "sticky windows"
[19:32] <scunizi> th0r: it really depends on your isp.. business line or access is never blocked .. home use is.. at least in the USA
[19:32] <jjnw> stevecoh1, dmesg will show some boot up info
[19:32] <Surlent777> melchmon360: What do you mean by "tab"?
[19:33] <th0r> Krenari1: a suggestion, don't change apache, leave it on port 80. Set the wifi router (or whatever router you have) to forward an outside port to port 80 (say port 12345 to port 80) then access your webpage with http://hostname:12345
[19:33] <stevecoh1> jjnw: after a failed boot followed by a successful one?
[19:33] <melchmon360> Surlent777, if I dragged a windows to the edge of my screen it would minimize to a tab on the edge
[19:34] <th0r> Krenari1: I always use port forwarding for everything, as a security precaution
[19:34] <jjnw> stevecoh1, yes. You also have info in the log files /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[19:34] <stevecoh1> is there some sort of "verbose" switch you can give to the boot sequence?
[19:34] <stovicek> stevecoh1: you could temporarily remove splash from the boot options in grub. that will prevent the system messages from being hidden during boot up.
[19:34] <melchmon360> Surlent777, like http://www.donelleschi.com/stickywindows/
[19:34] <scunizi> Krenari1: th0r suggestion is a good one and can be implemented along with dyndns.com
[19:34] <cousteau> I installed a package using aptitude but cancelled it with Ctrl+C while it was downloading the debs. Now `aptitude install -f` asks me to install that package. How can I mark it as not installalbe?
[19:35] <stevecoh1> stovicek:  thanks.  Do you know what that switch is?
[19:35] <Surlent777> melchmon360: That is a strange behavior. I don't think I quite understand, but I know that with Compiz you can of course to traditional minimizing, and you can also group several windows together in one...but as for that docking bit, I have no idea
[19:35] <Surlent777> do*
[19:35] <jjnw> stevecoh1, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:36] <melchmon360> Surlent777, does shelfing work like that?
[19:36] <stevecoh1> thanks jjnw.  What edit would I make there?
[19:36] <Surlent777> melchmon360: Shelfing makes the window different sizes that you can move around. It still updates the window by default as well
[19:37] <jowi> !unr
[19:37] <sapfeer> Hello there!
[19:37] <cousteau> !netbook
[19:37] <cousteau> !netbook-remix
[19:37] <jjnw> stevecoh1, remove the splash and quiet from the end of the line starting kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.x.x
[19:37] <stevecoh1> thanks
[19:38] <sapfeer> Can anyone tell if there is a way to parse some aspx-page in terminal?
[19:38] <stovicek> stevecoh1: during the boot process, hit ESC to get to the kernel list. press E to edit the kernel's boot options. highlight the kernel line press E to edit it. remove splash from the end of the line. press ENTER. press B to continue booting.
[19:38] <FLJohn> I have an old computer Running Bill Gates Special (XP)  If I take the hard drive out and install it as a second hard drive or as an external hard drive, will I be able to access the files on the Disk?
[19:38] <stevecoh1> thanks guys.
[19:39] <Surlent777> FBLJohn: Should be able to
[19:39] <jjnw> stevecoh1, stovicek does it better
[19:39] <scunizi> FLJohn: files yes.. run xp that way no
[19:39] <melchmon360> Surlent777, oh. Well idk what to do then
[19:39] <jowi> hi, just installed unr jaunty. second try i login to gnome only the desktop launches - no panel or metacity loads. newly created users have same issue. this is a fresh install and I even re-installed it. seems as if message bus cannot contact gconf... any hints of how to proceed?
[19:39] <stovicek> been a while since I had to do that. I couldn't remember the exact sequence without booting a machine :P
[19:39] <Surlent777> melchmon360: Sounds like a gimmick anyway. If you really want something like that, just look around on Google I guess
[19:39] <Jassi> wiki.ubuntu.com
[19:40] <unitedpotsmokers> how to see ubuntu version?
[19:40] <melchmon360> Surlent777, ok
[19:40] <rski> unitedpotsmokers: lsb_release -a
[19:40] <Jassi> wie wechselt man nochmal zu deutsch?
[19:40] <unitedpotsmokers> thanks rski
[19:40] <KB1JWQ> !de
[19:41] <jjnw> stovicek, a lot better solution as you mad no changes to the system, nice!
[19:41] <FLJohn> If I install wine on Ubuntu, will I be able to use the programs (other then XP) with Ubuntu on this older hard drive?
[19:42] <FLJohn> I just have some important stuff on this hard drive that I do not want to lose
[19:42] <jjnw> !wine > FLJohn
[19:42] <unitedpotsmokers> rski, how to a version 32bit or 64bit
[19:43] <th0r> FLJohn: some, not all. Consider installing xp in virtualbox once you get ubuntu up and running
[19:43] <unitedpotsmokers> rski, how to see a version 32bit or 64bit
[19:43] <rski> no idea
[19:43] <FLJohn> thank you all
[19:43] <jjnw> unitedpotsmokers, try uname -a
[19:44] <scunizi> FLJohn: you won't be able to use their specific install on the other drive. You'll have to install them in wine, IF they will work that way
[19:44] <mikkel_> tjo
[19:44] <th0r> unitedpotsmokers: uname -r I think
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> it say Linux devilcomHP 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:45] <KB1JWQ> th0r: uname -p is what you're thinking of.
[19:45] <KB1JWQ> unitedpotsmokers: That's 64 bit.
[19:45] <theblue> Hi all.
[19:45] <FLJohn> I mistakenly took Pidgen off my top panel.  I right click to restore on the top panel and it is not an option.  how do I get pidgen to show there again when I am running the program?
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> so im using 32 n 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[19:45] <jjnw> x86_64 = 64 bit
[19:45] <Marticus> any tcsh users here?
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> oh ic
[19:45] <unitedpotsmokers> thats why i try to upgrade pidgin it can't
[19:46] <theblue> I'm trying to install jaunty desktop editon on my HP 1000 series Mini, and there's no sound whatsoever.  Is there any way to get sound to work?
[19:46] <Apollo2366> Hey guys, I finally got Audacity to playback last night, but now (today) whenever I try to import and play back a song, it crashes. A few minutes ago it was crashing about half of the time, and now it's crashing 100% of the time. Help?
[19:46] <KB1JWQ> unitedpotsmokers: That's what apt-get is for.
[19:46] <danlii> Is there some way to make a laptop save even more power when in "sleep" mode?
[19:46] <KB1JWQ> danlii: Yes.
[19:46] <KB1JWQ> danlii: It's called "Turn it off."
[19:46] <danlii> I find that the battery discharges in roughly double the time that it does when the computer is turned on.
[19:46] <danlii> KB1JWQ: Well, that was not exactly what I wanted to hear.
[19:47] <danlii> I want to be able to use the computer in 5 seconds after opening the lid.
[19:47] <wesley__> Apollo, launch from the command line to look for errors
[19:47] <jjnw> danlii, try hibernate
[19:47] <queso> I'm having trouble getting my wireless USB adapter to work.  I've explained the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  Any help you could provide is appreciated!  Thanks :)
[19:47] <Kangarooo> what to do if packages ptoblem is reported to ubuntu but long time no fix?
[19:47] <th0r> danlii: you need an ssd netbook
[19:47] <danlii> th0r: :(
[19:47] <behappy> how do I tar a folder with his owner and his permission ??
[19:47] <theblue> Any advice on getting sound to work on an HP Mini notebook?
[19:48] <ThemeSeries> Hey guys i need some help..
[19:48] <wesley__> Try in the command line alsamixer
[19:48] <Apollo2366> theblue, I've got some links for you to try.
[19:48] <wesley__> theblue that is
[19:48] <ThemeSeries> Any linux pros in the house
[19:48] <Kangarooo> yes ThemeSeries
[19:48] <jussi01> !ask | ThemeSeries
[19:49] <ThemeSeries> Hi kangarooooo
[19:49] <Kangarooo> !ask > ThemeSeries
[19:49] <Apollo2366> theblue, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[19:49] <ThemeSeries> Ohh sorry
[19:49] <cjae> so I am using a live disc to move files around on drives and I am moving internally on pata drives, via gksudo nautilus and then drag and drop, my question is, how come when you move a bunch of files of various sizes at once, the bigger files dont pick up speed after the smaller ones are done
[19:49] <cjae> ?
[19:50] <Apollo2366> theblue, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html#more-1301
[19:50] <KB1JWQ> cjae: No idea, but that's part of the reason I don't move things via GUI. :)
[19:50] <theblue> thanks, Apollo2366!
[19:50] <ThemeSeries> ok so my problem is i want to add a linux radio server using shoutcast with icecast. I'm using ubuntu 8 with webmin/usermin and virtualmin to administer from home. I "accidentally changed" the file permissions on the /usr folder
[19:50] <scunizi> cjae: they go as fast as your system will allow
[19:50] <space_cadet> hey, I am having a problem with ububtu's install in virtualbox,  Win 7 host   9.04 desktop and alternate cd's both freeze @ configuring apt > scanning mirror
[19:50] <Kangarooo> cjae: yes im laso interested how to explain why slider of speed and remaining time changes when copying/movin..
[19:50] <KB1JWQ> ThemeSeries: Yikes.  Webmin.
[19:51] <ThemeSeries> and now sudo does not work all i get is "sudo must be setuid"
[19:51] <ThemeSeries> Webmin sucks?
[19:51] <jussi01> !webmin | ThemeSeries
[19:51] <KB1JWQ> ThemeSeries: Hard.
[19:51] <wesley__> Apollo, did you try launching from the command line?
[19:51] <ThemeSeries> ohh no webmin is great for what im doing
[19:51] <ThemeSeries> webmin did not do anything
[19:51] <wapko> !ebox
[19:51] <jussi01> ThemeSeries: no, its not.
[19:51] <Apollo2366> wesley, oh sorry! I didn't see your response. Prefix it with my nick next time, so it'll be highlighted. And hold on.
[19:51] <Apollo2366> sorry, I meant wesley__
[19:52] <ThemeSeries> i changed file permissions for the /usr dir
[19:52] <KB1JWQ> ThemeSeries: Yeah.  Don't do that.
[19:52] <KB1JWQ> ThemeSeries: man chmod
[19:52] <ThemeSeries> what is the default number
[19:52] <jussi01> ThemeSeries: however, you might try using a Live CD to sort out the permissions on /usr
[19:52] <dougl> anyone have any success stories with xvoice?
[19:52] <ThemeSeries> for the chmod /usr dir?
[19:52] <ThemeSeries> Ohh cool thanks
[19:52] <dougl> oops
[19:53] <ThemeSeries> so is ebox like webmin. I fell at home with webmin already but is it worth changing the webmin to ebox?
[19:53] <jussi01> ThemeSeries: and really, dnt use webmin
[19:53] <ThemeSeries> thanks for the heads up
[19:54] <Apollo2366> wesley__ it's working now.... for no apparent reason.
[19:54] <cjae> scunizi, but shouldn't they increase after say five of the smaller are finished, for example I am moving a 7.2 gig file and some smaller .7 or 1.4 gig files (can you guess :p) anyway, the 7.2 gig started at 1.2MB/s, should it not be able to get to at least 1.8 or 2.3 MB/s ?
[19:54] <ThemeSeries> ok so what is so bad about webmin
[19:54] <wesley__> Apollo2366 well ok then
[19:54] <wesley__> theblue did you get sound working?
[19:54] <stevecoh1> I have removed splash and quiet from the boot sequence and my findings are at http://pastebin.com/m6b02b4ab.  Can someone tell me what this means and/or answer the question?
[19:55] <theblue> wesley__: i'm running in my windows environment right now, cleaning out for ubuntu.
[19:55] <theblue> wesley__: but i tried the live cd earlier today and there was no sound on it.
[19:55] <wesley__> theblue what sound card do you have?
[19:55] <space_cadet> trying the setup again fresh
[19:55] <space_cadet> but i still think it's gonna hang at that same spot
[19:56] <scunizi> cjae: sorry I can't answer that.. it's more technical then that.
[19:56] <theblue> wesley__: let me check.
[19:56] <melchmon360> Does anyone know where I could find something that allows me to tab any windows I have open? There is a program for this on mac called "sticky windows"
[19:56] <space_cadet> virtualbox 3   ubuntu 9.04 in a windows 7 host freezes @ configuring apt step of setup
[19:56] <TSMG> so basically, get a ubuntu 8 live cd
[19:56] <scunizi> space_cadet: did you install the guest additions?  you might need to do that
[19:56] <theblue> wesley__: (hda-intel, IDT 92HD75B2X5)
[19:57] <path1> When i enter BIOS, it tells me about the SYSTEM MEMORY and says: Installed Size = 4096MB, Usable Size = 3840MB
[19:57] <path1> what does this mean?
[19:57] <space_cadet> install guest additions before the guest os is installed scunizi
[19:57] <space_cadet> ?
[19:57] <stevecoh1> Re: flaky boot problem: I have removed splash and quiet from the boot sequence and my findings are at http://pastebin.com/m6b02b4ab.  Can someone tell me what this means and/or answer the question?
[19:57] <deany> path1, shared video memory?
[19:57] <raddar> path1 your graphics card memory shares your RAM
[19:57] <miik> path1, maybe you use 32-bit, then it cant use all. you must use 64-bit
[19:57] <theblue> wesley__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP Mini 1000
[19:57] <TSMG> how do i restore file permissions to /usr?  get a live cd and then..?
[19:57] <wesley__> theblue you said HP mini 1000 right
[19:58] <cyph00> When i enter BIOS, it tells me about the SYSTEM MEMORY and says: Installed Size = 4096MB, Usable Size = 3840MB  ....mean you have 4gb of ram ,but are running 32-bit system, so can only use 3.8gb
[19:58] <theblue> wesley__: yeah.
[19:58] <TSMG> TSMG is themeseries from before
[19:58] <scunizi> space_cadet: no.. the guest additions should be installed from within the guest
[19:58] <deany> miik, he`s talkin about bios..
[19:58] <space_cadet> scunizi, that's the problem... i don't get that far... DURING SETUP it freezes
[19:58] <wesley__> theblue https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/64930
[19:58] <space_cadet> @ configuring apt
[19:58] <Jassi> '#ubuntu.de
[19:59] <TSMG> how do i restore /usr file permissions
[19:59] <TSMG> ?
[19:59] <deany> I thought 32bit could support 4gb, you just needed a 64bit OS to use it ?
[19:59] <space_cadet> scunizi, i've tried both the desktop and the alternate installs
[19:59] <jussi01> ThemeSeries: as the factoid said, the way webmin handles config files is not compatible with thhe way ubuntu does
[19:59] <scunizi> space_cadet: are you trying to install from a cd or an iso?
[19:59] <space_cadet> scunizi, actually i prefer to run the alternate, because I am trying to test out a raid config
[19:59] <space_cadet> iso
[19:59] <Jassi> # ubuntu-de
[19:59] <TSMG> webmin did not f up the /usr dir
[19:59] <wesley__> theblue<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:00] <Jassi> wie ist nochma die adresse für deutsch?
[20:00] <scunizi> space_cadet: jeezz.. it should work .. have you checked in #vbox yet?
[20:00] <space_cadet> scunizi, it's off of an ISO, but shouldn't make a difference, cause it stalls when it tries to scan the mirror
[20:00] <The_Cog> space_cadet: How long did you wait? Thats the first time it tries to use the net - maybe theres a network problem its timing out trying to connect to the servers?
[20:00] <Jassi> Deutscher chat?
[20:00] <TSMG> so remove webmin? usermin and virtualmin?
[20:01] <Jassi> wie lautet die adresse um in den deutschen chat zu kommen?
[20:01] <jussi01> Jassi: /join #ubuntu-de
[20:01] <space_cadet> The_Cog, 10 mins?
[20:01] <jussi01> TSMG: most of my /usr is like this: drwxr-xr-x 277 root root  12288 2009-06-16 22:33 share
[20:01] <scunizi> space_cadet: did you change anything in "Settings" after creating the vm but before installation?
[20:01] <WhiteSpring> guys, maybe... Do anyone know good computer hardware community?
[20:01] <stevecoh1> Re: flaky boot problem: I have removed splash and quiet from the boot sequence and my findings are at http://pastebin.com/m6b02b4ab.  Can someone tell me what this means and/or answer the question?
[20:01] <jussi01> WhiteSpring: ##hardware ?
[20:02] <TSMG> jussi, should i remove webmin?
[20:02] <The_Cog> space_cadet: Damn. That should be long enough.
[20:02] <WhiteSpring> jussi01, yeah
[20:02] <jussi01> TSMG: Id suggest it, but get your /usr fixed first
[20:02] <stevecoh1> how about another channel I could go to to ask this?
[20:02] <TSMG> get a live cd and get to restoring /usr but how would i do that
[20:02] <space_cadet> scunizi, here's my setup...   os type - ubuntu   three disks, one for swap/boot another two for a raid 0    video memory is set to 32 and base memory is set to 512    everything else is default
[20:02] <wesley__> theblue https://bugs.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+bug/318942
[20:03] <space_cadet> The_Cog, it hit's the mirror, then stalls at 43%
[20:03] <space_cadet> no keypresses do anything
[20:03] <cyph00> Got a 'tasksel: aptitude failed (128)' when installing LAMP.  I found what caused the error, want to reinstall.  Should I uninstall before running taskel again , or is it ok to just install over the foobared install??
[20:04] <TSMG> whoa i had to instances loadede
[20:04] <wesley__> theblue so according to this post your audio port should work and not speakers
[20:04] <wesley__> theblue checking this would just make sure it's the same bug
[20:04] <TSMG> so jussi what is the command to default the file permissions
[20:04] <theblue> wesley__: is there any way to get the speakers to work, though?
[20:04] <scunizi> space_cadet: with what you are trying to do you really need to look at the docs and query on #vbox... hopefully you're not using the -ose version.
[20:04] <theblue> wesley__: i know it's the same bug.
[20:04] <DIL> raid 0 is not a miiro
[20:04] <deany> space_cadet, thats a known issue
[20:04] <jussi01> stevecoh1: I found this on google, its refering to suse, but may have some help: http://forums.opensuse.org/install-boot-login/407206-failed-read-native-max-adress-err_mask-0x4-during-boot.html
[20:04] <deany> space_cadet, are you using latest ?
[20:05] <wesley__> theblue I'm reading more about that now. The first post says that you can build the driver from source to get it to work. The package in the repos needs to be updated
[20:05] <TSMG> so anyone knows the default command for restoring /usr file permissions
[20:05] <scunizi> deany: he is.. win 3.0 version
[20:05] <deany> windows virtualbox host?
[20:05] <DIL> !chmod
[20:05] <deany> i mean, windows host
[20:05] <space_cadet> scunizi, deany version 3.0.0 r49315
[20:06] <TSMG> thanks
[20:06] <deany> space_cadet, didnt know there was a version 3.  im on 2.2.4
[20:06] <JonathanEllis> I need to install windows xp to test a graphics card but my problem is my disk is all one extended partition with several logical partitions with a couple of ubuntu distros. I know windows doesnt like to be installed on a logical partition but I wonder if its possible to fool it somehow. I really dont want to wipe the disk, just to put a primary partition at the start of the disk for windows. Anybody managed to successfully install windows into a l
[20:06] <deany> huh, why hasnt mine upgraded.. I got the repo forit.
[20:07] <scunizi> deany: yea.. if you're running ubunt and have the repos for vbox entered just search in synaptic for the latest version.. it won't come up as an upgrade automatically
[20:07] <space_cadet> deany, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[20:07] <deany> doh.
[20:07] <joseph> i have a usability suggestion!
[20:07] <deany> does it upgrade ok?  I dont wanna lose my vm`s
[20:07] <stevecoh1> thanks jussi01, will go down this path next.
[20:07] <space_cadet> deany, dunno, it's a fresh install
[20:08] <jlebrech> hi all
[20:08] <scunizi> deany: use synaptic.. and yes it works fine.. did it on my hardy box and intrepid box
[20:08] <jlebrech> i have a suggestion for nautilus..
[20:08] <space_cadet> deany, plus (i'm in windows)
[20:08] <TSMG> i can only restore the file permissions with a live cd??
[20:08] <The_Cog> deany: My VMs still all worked after upgrading to v3
[20:08] <deany> The_Cog, did you have to redo the guest additions?
[20:09] <scunizi> deany: you have to do that with each upgrade
[20:09] <wesley__> theblue follow the post on that page  xapt  wrote on 2009-04-08:  (permalink)
[20:09] <scunizi> normally
[20:09] <The_Cog> deany: No I never bothered
[20:09] <space_cadet> The_Cog, so when i told you it stalls at 43%??  well it's been stuck there since then
[20:09] <wesley__> theblue if you follow the instructions there, everything should work
[20:09] <JonathanEllis> jlebrech: I suggest you post your suggestion in the relevant forum for nautilus. Google nautilus to find where it is. I doubt the developer will see your suggestion here.
[20:09] <theblue> wesley__: that link once more?
[20:09] <space_cadet> The_Cog, and i have asked in #vbox
[20:09] <deany> space_cadet, what ubuntu are you using in vbox
[20:09] <space_cadet> but ...
[20:09] <space_cadet> deany, 9.04
[20:09] <Halitech> TSMG, I would say yes as you can't make changes like that to a mounted partition
[20:09] <deany> space_cadet, its a known issue.  I had it once
[20:09] <scunizi> deany: the old guest additions will typically work.. you have to check what's installed vs what's available to install.
[20:09] <The_Cog> space_cadet: Sorry I have no ideas then.
[20:10] <gartral> ok All.. I have an odd one here.. I have 2 mice, 2 keyboards, and two monitors.... how do I set my desktop up so each "set" is a different x session (like multiple workstations off of one terminal) I knw it's possible, but im baffled
[20:10] <Tomi-87> hi all. I just installed the 9.04 and can`t see the BROADCOM B43 in the list of propietary drivers. When boot from liveCD, I can see it but cannot install it. Could anybody help me? Plz.
[20:10] <space_cadet> deany, is there a workaround??  or can i disable networking to fix it?
[20:10] <jlebrech> i think there should be a recent documents menu for each folder, to see what was accessed thru nautilus in that folder
[20:10] <JonathanEllis> deany: When I upgraded my vbox I had to upgrade guest additions to make it work properly. Before that, there was some bizarre behaviour going on.
[20:11] <deany> space_cadet, dont know how I fixed it, it was ages ago.. I dont  think I did anything, just upgraded vbox...
[20:11] <gartral> Tomi-87: if you installed it well in live CD its carried over to the installation, you should be all set
[20:11] <space_cadet> deany, cause as before, it does it with both the desktop and alternate installs
[20:11] <JonathanEllis> !suggestion
[20:11] <deany> space_cadet, but im using ubuntu
[20:11] <JonathanEllis> !feature request
[20:11] <Spike1506> !sounds
[20:11] <Spike1506> !sound
[20:11] <deany> space_cadet,  So i dont know in your case.
[20:11] <space_cadet> deany, yeah.. that's a difference
[20:12] <The_Cog> space_cadet: I think you can tell it not to sync with any mirrors - not to use the network yet.
[20:12] <TSMG> is there a command to default the file permissions in ubuntu?
[20:12] <Myxb> hi! how can i undelete a file in a specific folder? i mean ONLY from a specific folder.
[20:12] <deany> space_cadet, join #vbox they will be able to help more
[20:12] <space_cadet> The_Cog, well i did notice it does the same thing inside live mode.. when i go to install something, it randomly freezes
[20:13] <space_cadet> so..
[20:13] <space_cadet> it has to be a networking bug
[20:13] <TSMG> ?
[20:13] <space_cadet> gonna try something
[20:13] <path1> could somebody explain to me what DQS training is?
[20:13] <path1> i gues its something that has to do with memory
[20:13] <gartral> ok All.. I have an odd one here.. I have 2 mice, 2 keyboards, and two monitors.... how do I set my desktop up so each "set" is a different x session (like multiple workstations off of one terminal) I knw it's possible.
[20:14] <binbasti> hi
[20:14] <JonathanEllis> jlebrech: OK. Here is where to submit your suggestion for nautilus http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus/Ideas
[20:14] <JonathanEllis> !meta ask
[20:14] <gartral> !ask
[20:14] <jlebrech> im asking for an opinion, the suggestion has already been submitted
[20:14] <Tomi-87> gartral: yes, I thik  after the installation I would just need to activate it. But actually I cant because the list of drivers is empty when boot from HDD (there are no activated or deactivated drivers shown).
[20:15] <binbasti> is there a way to suppress "permission denied" messages for the "find" command? i haven't had any success with the manual.
[20:15] <scunizi> gartral: it is.. after googling for hours I found some info a while back.  Most hits were for implementation in an educational setting.  You might google for linux in schools etc.. might also try Helio's blog or send him an email directly
[20:15] <ohir> binbasti: find /path 2>/dev/null
[20:15] <guntbert> jlebrech: for "opinions" please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:15] <gartral> Tomi-87: ohh.. did you activate it while in the live cd? if so, theres a bug where the driver disappers... I don't know how to fix this issue
[20:16] <scunizi> gartral: the edubuntu docs may also have somethign
[20:16] <binbasti> ohir: "2>/dev/null" is an option?
[20:16] <scunizi> gartral: also thin client references might result in some useful hits
[20:16] <hemanth> OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 WebCam, not working on ubuntu 9.04
[20:17] <ohir> binbasti: its redirection of STDERROR stream (this what says permission denied)
[20:17] <puff> My mouse pointer is frozen.
[20:17] <binbasti> ohir: ah ok. thank you!
[20:17] <JonathanEllis> jlebrech: Apparently there is a #nautilus IRC channel on irc.gnome.org. You might get more of a response there
[20:18] <puff> Weird.
[20:18] <Tomi-87> well, fine... so does it mean I must apply a win-style solution (reinstall)? Well, at least I know that it can be resolved this way. Normally I wouldnt think that It resolves anything when talking about Linux. So thank you so much.
[20:19] <puff> So undockingmy laptop didn't unfreeze my mouse pointer, but when I went to type to ask for the key combniation to invoke suspend, numlock was on.  Turning it off unfroze the ouse.
[20:19] <jussi01> gartral: did you find what you are looking for?
[20:20] <TSMG> is there a quick way to reset file permissions?
[20:20] <jussi01> gartral: if not, here is a (slightly dated) tutorial, for linux, not ubuntu specifically: http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html
[20:21] <Halitech> Tomi-87, did you check the forums? there is info here about broadcom chips  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203693&highlight=broadcom+43
[20:21] <TSMG> anyone?
[20:21] <puff> TSMG:  "reset" meaning?
[20:21] <KB1JWQ> TSMG: Yes.  chmod
[20:21] <cyph00> when something fails during install on linux, is it ok to install over the failed install...i.e.e run apt again, or do you need to uninstalled the failed install?
[20:21] <puff> TSMG There is a quick way to "set" file permissions, reset implies setting them to some previously known set of permissions.
[20:21] <TSMG> i need to reset the file permissions for /usr directory
[20:22] <TSMG> what would be the file permissions for the /usr dir
[20:22] <TSMG> i changed it to 744/755 i think
[20:22] <puff> cyph00: Generally speaking it's beter (and quite easy) to apt remove and then apt install.
[20:22] <cyph00> thaNKS puff
[20:22] <puff> cyph00: Though I think it shouldn't be dangerous to try to just install again.
[20:22] <KB1JWQ> TSMG: 755 usually.
[20:22] <grawity> TSMG: 755, owned by root/root.
[20:22] <Tomi-87> halitech, i was googling for a time, trying to find the driver to download, found some b43 related topics as well, but not those which i would need
[20:23] <puff> cyph00:  Oh, wait,y ou mean apt install failed?  apt should have cleaned up after itself.
[20:23] <TSMG> ohh so i think i could set it back to that?
[20:23] <by1> :)
[20:23] <Halitech> Tomi-87, do you have a wired connection you can use for now until the wireless is working?
[20:23] <TSMG> i did chmod -Rv
[20:23] <cyph00> puff....Got a 'tasksel: aptitude failed (128)' when installing LAMP.
[20:23] <puff> cyph00: Also nore that in some cases if you have messed up the configs in /etc/whatever, apt remove does note remove those, unless you speifically ask it to with the purge option.
[20:24] <dakarn> apt-get purge instead of remove?
[20:24] <gartral> Thank You Jassi
[20:24] <puff> cyph00:  Ah, I don't use  those meta-packages too much so I'm not sure about that.
[20:24] <puff> dakarn: Be careful with apt-get purge.
[20:24] <Tomi-87> no, im typing from another computer... and all the pages are supposing that I have the wired connection :(
[20:24] <by1> русско язычные тут есть?
[20:24] <grawity> !ru | by1
[20:24] <Halitech> Tomi-87, thats because of dependencies, its easier to have a wired connection while getting the wireless to work
[20:24] <TSMG> when i chmod'd the /usr directory it does not let me use sudo anymore "sudo must be setuid"???
[20:24] <puff> dakarn:  apt-get purge makes apt remove any and all files related, like config files,e tc.  Apt get remove and then apt get install of a package will leave the config files alone so you can  restore the binaries, etc, to a fresh working state wtihout having to redo any configs.
[20:25] <gartral> Jassi: hmm.. I hit a snare... Nvidia GFX card
[20:25] <space_cadet> ok
[20:25] <by1> я там уже был
[20:25] <puff> TSMG:  Oh, that sucks.
[20:25] <by1> ))
[20:25] <space_cadet> wow
[20:25] <space_cadet> m
[20:25] <space_cadet> ok
[20:25] <TSMG> i figure i restore the file permissions for /usr
[20:26] <jussi01> !ru | by1
[20:26] <space_cadet> now it's giving an error processing debs
[20:26] <puff> TSMG sudop is hyper paranaoid.  If the perms for sudo or for /etc/sudoers are not right, sudo won't let you run.. which will prevent you from fixing the perms.
[20:26] <melchmon360> Does anyone know where I could find something that allows me to tab any windows I have open? There is a program for this on mac called "sticky windows"
[20:26] <by1> !ru | by1
[20:26] <puff> TSMG:  You'll have to boot into single-user mode and fix the perms on sudo, probbaly.
[20:26] <Halitech> melchmon360, ALT + TAB should do it
[20:26] <TSMG> how would i do that?
[20:26] <TSMG> puff
[20:26] <by1> !ru
[20:26] <by1> бла бла бла
[20:27]  * grawity sighs
[20:27] <gartral> by1: /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:27] <puff> cyph00:  Anyway,  I don't use the meta packages stuff much, but you're probbaly safe to try to just task-select again.
[20:27] <jussi01> gartral: did thast link help?
[20:27] <TSMG> puff how do i boot into single user mode?
[20:27] <dakarn> !ru |by1
[20:27] <gartral> jussi01: yes and no... my problem now is that im running an Nvidia gfx card
[20:27] <cyph00> puff . good info. thanks
[20:27] <cyph00> i will try again
[20:27] <scunizi> melchmon360: you're looking to make windows that are open accessable from TAB's right?
[20:28] <Tomi-87> Halitech: Yes... well, so as i need it as soon as possible, a reinstall should help me now, shouldnt it? Anyway that bug is interesting... I try to activate sth on liveCD and it disappears from the system on HDD... :|
[20:28] <melchmon360> scunizi, yes
[20:28] <melchmon360> scunizi, yes  please refer to the "sticky tabs" link
[20:28] <Halitech> Tomi-87, I don't know if a reinstall will help or not (being honest)
[20:29] <jussi01> gartral: why does that make a difference?
[20:29] <scunizi> melchmon360: I don't know of a program to do that but a quick google search reveals a windows manager that makes use of tabs.. http://xwinman.org/vtwm.php ....
[20:29] <puff> TSMG:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[20:29] <melchmon360> scunizi, but dom't want to change my window manger. that is always such a hassle
[20:29] <TSMG> oh god thanks :):):):):):)
[20:30] <Halitech> melchmon360, if you have 2 programs open, does ALT+TAB not change between them for you?
[20:30] <gartral> jussi01: primarily, my xorg.conf is both empty, and nonresponsive to reconfiguration
[20:30] <Tomi-87> halitech: well, sure it didnt made any change on the CD :) or on the hardware :)) so the problem must be in the installed system. At least I hope that... (fixme guys XD )
[20:32] <scunizi> melchmon360: sorry.. best I could do.. looks like there is a request on ubuntu brainstorm
[20:32] <Halitech> Tomi-87, guess 1 way to find out is to reinstall
[20:32] <jussi01> gartral: are you sure? Ive an nvidia, and using the proprietry drivers under 9.04, adding items to it works. I had to create the base with the nvidia settings app though...
[20:32] <Tomi-87> :) well, thank you.  I mean i select it in the sound configuration window and it doesnt work. Still using the pc speakers... There was a package that when i installed it, it let me select the default soundcard (asoundconf setting defualt headset doesnt work).
[20:34] <HsystemX> Do you know the name of that package?
[20:35] <HsystemX> Im using 8.10.
[20:35] <guntbert> TSMG: you case is not stated on that page, proceed into recovery mode then type chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin /sudo
[20:35] <guntbert> TSMG: you case is not stated on that page, proceed into recovery mode then type chmod -v 4755 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:35] <guntbert> *your
[20:36] <HsystemX> How to select headset in ubuntu... asoundconf doesnt work.
[20:36] <HsystemX> ?
[20:36] <sminki>  irc.rizon.net
[20:36] <savanny1976xpu> Hi everyone, I'm about to install mythbuntu (Livecd), my question is can I do that in spread partition?? or it's better & safer to get it from synaptic manager?  Thank you.
[20:37] <lightpriest> anyone here using a custom event.d script? (upstart)
[20:37] <guntbert> !anyone | lightpriest
[20:38] <dougmoney> lawlz.
[20:38] <puff> guntbert:  Good caatch, thanks.
[20:38] <lightpriest> I'm trying to get a script in events.d working. It works when I execute the command manually, but when I use initctl emit, it just starts and stops
[20:38] <TSMG> that fix broken sudo link looks promising puff
[20:38] <TSMG> appreciate it
[20:39] <TSMG> im going to the server in 30mins and  fix the problem.
[20:39] <lightpriest> is there a way to debug what is happening? i've tried "upstart -v" in the script section but I don't see a thing
[20:39] <space_cadet> The_Cog, deany scunizi ok... problem solved for now,  i disabled host networking and the install is running perfect
[20:41] <deany> space_cadet, I use bridged myself.
[20:44] <TSMG> is it hard to fix sudo?
[20:44] <sockmonkey> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu on my HP Pavilion 553x, and I'm having trouble getting eth0 to work.  lshw is showing the card to be of the rtl8139 chipset.  Any ideas here?
[20:45] <k4rt33k> does anyone know the irc channel for polyworld?
[20:47] <sockmonkey> Channel's dead atm hmm?
[20:48] <dorin> hello
[20:48] <lightpriest> I'm trying to get a script in events.d working. It works when I execute the command manually, but when I use initctl emit, it just starts and stops
[20:49] <acrux> hay
[20:49] <dorin> i heard that in ubuntu , the modem (usb)Speedtouch 330 works ok
[20:49] <dorin> so:
[20:49] <dorin> can someone tell me how to make it work in other distros?
[20:50] <scunizi> space_cadet: glad to hear it.. I'll have to remember that
[20:50] <sebsebseb> dorin: try ##linux
[20:50] <edinus> hj
[20:50] <space_cadet> kk
[20:50] <Rugxulo> where can I get the old 5.04 .iso?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Rugxulo: why?
[20:50] <T`> hi.. i can't get xfce to start on 9.10.. gdm just shows a revolving cursor and is stuck there with black background forever.. i can however do startx from terminal and that works... anyone know how to fix this?
[20:50]  * Rugxulo wants GCC 3.4.6
[20:51] <dorin> thy said that it easy to buy a ethernet  modem:P
[20:51] <deany> the first ubuntu I used :)
[20:51] <scunizi> T`: do you have both ubuntu and xubuntu installed or did you install ubuntu and then just install xfce4?
[20:51] <HsystemX> My firefox doesnt use my headsets for audio. Have tried a lot of things, now im trying PulseAudio Device Chooser, any other ideas?
[20:52] <T`> scunizi, i had xubuntu installed.. and i upgraded to 9.10
[20:52] <T`> scunizi, i did it thru update-manager
[20:53] <Revortosa> hello
[20:54] <mdg> anybody here using the text expander autokey?