[10:47] <ThE__OnE> i downloaded something from a p2p, how can i scan that?
[10:48] <ThE__OnE> or do i need to scan that?
[10:48] <topyli> karlheg: dos used to power my MS Works 1.0 workstation :)
[10:48] <shanon> ThE__OnE: Did you download an executable binary or script ?
[10:48] <ThE__OnE> no
[10:48] <ThE__OnE> like tar
[10:49] <shanon> ThE__OnE: The tar should be fine. What is in it ?
[10:49] <ThE__OnE> guides
[10:49] <ThE__OnE> to linux
[10:49] <shanon> ThE__OnE: That should be fine
[10:49] <topyli> liar :)
[10:49] <karlheg> ThE__OnE, You should not run binaries you have not compiled yourself and for which you have not read or might not trust the source code, UNLESS you get it from Ubuntu.
[10:50] <shanon> ThE__OnE: In general you do not have to worry to much about scanning things on linux. Unless you download an executable binary from somewhere strange
[10:50] <karlheg> ThE__OnE, any program or script you run only has the system permissions you have, unless it is marked setuid root.
[10:50] <ThE__OnE> norm_, it is guides to linux, what else can i downlaod from p2p for linux topyli?
[10:51] <ThE__OnE> iam not root
[10:51] <ThE__OnE> atleast i never set myself as one because people in here not to do so
[10:51] <topyli> ThE__OnE: oh, the other stuff is not linux-specific
[10:51] <karlheg> ThE__OnE, if it's a PDF or HTML document, you can safely view it.  It's executable programs you should not trust unless you are certain of the source.
[10:52] <karlheg> The 'file' command can help you identify what kind of file it is.  Most often the file manager knows too, and will display an icon indicating the file type.
[10:52] <ThE__OnE> thx
[10:53] <karlheg> ThE__OnE, That's the right way to do it.  Never run as root unless you are doing admin work, and never leave a root console open when you are not using it.
[10:53] <ekCo> hey
[10:53] <ekCo> i keep getting this error in teamspeak, Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[10:53] <ekCo> then nothing shows up.
[10:53] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[10:53] <ThE__OnE> thx
[10:53] <r2d4> Hi! Just installed Ubuntu to my hard disk. The sound is not working. Funny thing is it worked from the Live CD. I mucked around a bit haplessly. I don't know much of how the sound internals work. I did read the unofficial FAQ and did what it said. Didn't help. The sound is playing (can see the oscillations in media players) but won't sound out. Volume is fine. Sound works from Windows partition.
[10:53] <topyli> ThE__OnE: the one situation when you want to run a virus scanner is if you run a mail server for windows clients
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> onope
[10:54] <Choubaka> r2d4: check the mixer settings.
[10:54] <ThE__OnE> nothing like that
[10:54] <Choubaka> r2d4: it may be muted
[10:54] <topyli> ThE__OnE: even, then i'd count the clients and think if it's easier to let the clients worry about viruses :)
[10:54] <karlheg> r2d4, try 'sudo alsamixer' in a terminal and jiggle all the knobs.
[10:54] <r2d4> Choubaka: Not muted. Checked that.
[10:54] <rbrenart> I wanted to add some mount points (or just any directory really)  to my places menu (not /media/ mounts)  is there an easy way to do this?
[10:54] <ekCo> i keep getting this error in teamspeak, Qt: Locales not supported on X server, nothing shows up...
[10:55] <karlheg> Also try the "System | Preferences | Multimedia ..." and "Sound" settings.
[10:55] <Choubaka> karlheg: alsamixer runs as a normal user too.
[10:55] <karlheg> ahuman01, yes, ok.  No need for sudo.
[10:55] <karlheg> ... as long as you are in the 'audio' group.
[10:55] <r2d4> OK! Thanks. Should have asked this from Linux. Let me login from it. Thanks.
[10:56] <cantrel29> hello, can somebody help me with a monitor problem.  my computer was attached to a crt, now it's attached to a flat pannel.  the refresh rate of my crt is not supported.  how do I start x config from the command line?
[10:56] <ThE__OnE> does ubuntu in anyway take away any of the bandwidth?
[10:56] <HrdwrBoB> no
[10:56] <ThE__OnE> ok
[10:56] <ThE__OnE> it mught be my system thats running slow then
[10:56] <karlheg> aptitude install gkrellm
[10:56] <ThE__OnE> must*
[10:57] <bob2> cantrel29: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:58] <ekCo> can anyone help?
[10:58] <ThE__OnE> not until you ask
[10:58] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[10:58] <karlheg> ekCo, I think that a locales package is missing.
[10:58] <ekCo> which?
[10:59] <karlheg> ekCo, Run 'synaptic' and find the program with the problem.  Look at it's depends and recommends, etc, and see if you can find a recommended or suggested package within the transitive closure of the union of depends, recommends, and suggests for the package that installs locales.
[10:59] <cantrel29> thanks bob2. i am running through to config now
[11:01] <karlheg> ekCo, I'm not certain if my answer is correct.  I never use Qt applications, and have not seen that before.
[11:01] <ekCo> hmm ok
[11:01] <poningru> I had a question about .deb files
[11:02] <karlheg> Locales probably means language translation files...  but it could be something else.  You should ask on #kubuntu.
[11:02] <poningru> why not make them 'install' when double clicked
[11:02] <poningru> with prompts in between ofcourse
[11:02] <karlheg> ... since it's a Qt application; Qt is the user interface widget toolkit used by KDE programs.
[11:02] <ekCo> ok.. wheres the depends and recommends tab?
[11:02] <ekCo> hmm ok
[11:03] <karlheg> poningru, because a .deb may have dependencies that would not easily be handled that way by a file manager.
[11:03] <tiglionabbit> ekCo: right-click, hit properties
[11:04] <poningru> leeds into my other question why arent they packaged with the required libraries?
[11:04] <poningru> win software pulls this off
[11:04] <poningru> pretty nicely if I may add
[11:04] <karlheg> ekCo, I do not see 'teamspeak' in the synaptic package manager at all.  What is it?
[11:04] <r2d4> Hi! I am back. Did sudo alsamixer. Some very at 0. Put all to 100%. Still no sound.
[11:05] <HiddenWolf> karlheg, it's software to allow you to communicate with your clan during gaming
[11:05] <ekCo> :\
[11:05] <karlheg> poningru, http://web.pdx.edu/~hegbloom/Aptitude/tutorial-intro-aptitude.html
[11:05] <karlheg> Ah. Perhaps it's missing a kdelibs locale package?
[11:06] <karlheg> Try searching for 'locale' and see if something jumps out at you wrt 'kde' or 'qt'.
[11:06] <karlheg> poningru, That's why.  :-)
[11:06] <ekCo> yeah heaps of others re having the prob
[11:07] <poningru> ok so you have too many libs sometimes
[11:07] <rbrenart> Anyone know how to modify the "Places" menu? Smeg doesn't seem to allow me to change it.
[11:08] <karlheg> r2d4, Ok.  We determined that you don't need 'sudo' for that... as long as you are in the 'audio' group.  What does 'id | grep audio' print?  Anything, or nothing?
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> rbrenart: in any "open" dialog, you can pin things to it
[11:08] <HiddenWolf> karlheg, teamspeak is not in the archive. it's semi-commercial
[11:08] <karlheg> What are your sound and multimedia settings from the panel menu System --> Preferences ?
[11:08] <r2d4> id | grep audio       prints nothing
[11:09] <rbrenart> tiglionabbit: I'm sorry, I don't follow
[11:09] <karlheg> That's what is the matter.  'sudo adduser r2d4 audio', or use the "Users and Groups" tool from the System --> Administration menu.
[11:09] <ThE__OnE> how can i change the color of the windows?
[11:09] <ThE__OnE> i checked out windows and theme in preferences
[11:09] <ThE__OnE> but they dunt help me
[11:09] <poningru> karlheg: can you explain what dependencies cannot be handled by apt or something similar?
[11:10] <ekCo> karlheg, does nvclock work for you with latest ubuntu-nvidia drivers?
[11:10] <karlheg> When you create a new desktop user, make sure to use the "Desktop" profile so they have access to audio, CD, etc.
[11:10] <r2d4> It says I am already a member of audio.
[11:10] <karlheg> ThE__OnE, What windows are you referring to?
[11:10] <r2d4> karlheg: It says I am already a member of audio
[11:11] <karlheg> poningru, apt is what handles depends.  'dpkg' alone does not.  'apt' takes a package name, not a .deb file.  'dpkg' takes a .deb file; apt runs it for you.
[11:11] <ThE__OnE> you know the color aroung applications and places and systems, how can i change that?
[11:11] <karlheg> A double click on a .deb would mean to run 'dpkg'.
[11:11] <topyli> ThE__OnE: do you mean the backround, which is normally white?
[11:11] <ekCo> karlheg, ?
[11:11] <r2d4> karlheg: I think I know why
[11:12] <r2d4> karlheg: I typed the id command in the root console.
[11:12] <karlheg> ekCo, I don't have nvidia.
[11:12] <karlheg> r2d4, That's why.
[11:12] <ThE__OnE> yes
[11:12] <karlheg> Ok, what are your 'sound' settings?
[11:12] <r2d4> karlheg: The output from my user terminal is ..
[11:12] <ekCo> ah ok then
[11:12] <karlheg> ... from the System --> Preferences menu?
[11:12] <ThE__OnE> i let my cousins sue it and they somehow managed to change it to pink or lite brown, <<--color blind
[11:12] <r2d4> karlheg: uid=1000(rt) gid=1000(rt) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(rt)
[11:12] <poningru> karlheg: thats what I am saying in a gui frontend such as gnome why not make .deb files be associated with something like apt and allow that to handle the install
[11:12] <r2d4> rt@main:~$
[11:13] <ekCo> anyone running 7174 nvidia drivers and having segmentation faults with nvclock?!
[11:13] <topyli> ThE__OnE: find a theme that uses different colors
[11:13] <ThE__OnE> use*
[11:13] <karlheg> r2d4, Looks fine.
[11:13] <karlheg> What program won't play?  Is it configured to use the 'ESD' output, and is the audio daemon running?
[11:14] <r2d4> karlheg: No program plays. I am currently running XMMS
[11:14] <teroedni> how to get apt-get to list packages?
[11:14] <karlheg> The configuration menus have settings for the audio daemon, and there's a multimedia settings for libgstreamer based applications.  XMMS has it's own configuration.
[11:14] <teroedni> cant find anything in apt-get -h
[11:14] <karlheg> apt-cache search REGEXP
[11:15] <karlheg> r2d4, Click the 'o' on XMMS, and select "Preferences".  Select the correct "Output Plugin" from there.
[11:16] <karlheg> If it's set to ALSA and the sound daemon is running, it might not work, and if it's set to ESD and the sound daemon is NOT running it might not work.
[11:16] <teroedni> wow thanks karlheg
[11:16] <karlheg> "esound output" for the sound daemon you find in the prefrences "sound".
[11:16] <r2d4> karlheg: it is on alsa. let me check if I can find this audio daemon.
[11:16] <karlheg> Does it work now?
[11:17] <karlheg> Ok.
[11:17] <zoka> i have winxp on hda1, ntfs partition on hda2, root ext3 on hda5 and swap on hda6, and lilo in the mbr, when i boot linux it all works fine but when i boot windows lilo hides hda2 and i cant access the other ntfs partition
 how do i make windows see the other ntfs
[11:18] <MorphDK> Hey.. I've got some problems with ALSA.. Please help :(
[11:18] <karlheg> Hmmm... well, mine only works when I set XMMS to 'alsa', whether or not the sound daemon is running.
[11:18] <poningru> zoka lilo does not hide the hda2
[11:18] <poningru> it is probably xp not recognizing something
[11:18] <poningru> what kind of partition is xp on?
[11:19] <poningru> ntfs or fat32?
[11:19] <karlheg> What if you right-click on the little speaker in the top panel, and select 'Open Volume Control' ?
[11:19] <zoka> xp is on hda1 ntfs
[11:19] <poningru> hmm
[11:19] <karlheg> poningru, NTFS.
[11:19] <zoka> lilo did hide hda2
[11:19] <MorphDK> karlheg, i tried that.. nothing is muted
[11:19] <zoka> i have no idea why
[11:19] <poningru> well lilo wont show a partition if it doesnt have an os in it
[11:19] <poningru> at boot up
[11:19] <poningru> iirc
[11:20] <poningru> gotta go sleep its too late
[11:20] <karlheg> What is shown by the command:  lsmod | grep '^snd'
[11:20] <zoka> why does it hide hda2 when i boot hda1
[11:20] <karlheg> Is there a driver for your sound card listed?  You can see what sound card it is with 'lspci'.
[11:21] <MorphDK> karlheg, yes
[11:21] <topyli> zoka: believe it. lilo only shows bootable partitions. it doesn't hide anything from the operating systems
[11:21] <MorphDK> karlheg, it's an intel soundcard, and the snd_intel8x0 driver is loaded..
[11:22] <karlheg> It is listed, but still no sound.  Hmmm.  I once had a similar problem.  I did everything you're supposed to and it still would not work.  I used alsamixer, and twiddled all the knobs, and something went 'pop', then it started working.
[11:23] <MorphDK> karlheg, i'm trying to use ALSA only, but there are a lot of 'oss' modules loaded.. is that the way it's supposed to be?
[11:23] <MorphDK> snd_seq_oss, snd_pcm_oss etc..
[11:23] <karlheg> Is the speaker volume turned up?  Are the speakers plugged into the right jack?  Are the speakers powered on?
[11:24] <Nobodyreal> Does anyone have experience getting the gmailfs package to work?
[11:24] <zoka> topyli: it did hide mine
[11:24] <MorphDK> it's a laptop.. and volume is at 100% and unmuted
[11:25] <karlheg> Well, I'm stumped.
[11:25] <MorphDK> me too :D
[11:25] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> can you tell me what your problem is?
[11:25] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, no sound at all, but everything seems working
[11:25] <ThE__OnE> if i create a file called test.dooc can that be opened with windows word?
[11:25] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> which kernel?
[11:25] <Black-whIsp> hey. :)
[11:26] <ThE__OnE> test.doc
[11:26] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, ehm.. The latest Ubuntu kernel?
[11:26] <Black-whIsp> is it possible to install ubuntu from the live cd?
[11:26] <topyli> zoka: if xp doesn't see an ntfs partition it has nothing to do with your boot loader
[11:26] <MorphDK> 2.6.10-5
[11:26] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> hmm
[11:27] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, no errors at all, and mplayer finds the card and start playing.. but no sound :(
[11:27] <ThE__OnE> Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386
[11:27] <topyli> ThE__OnE: yes
[11:27] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> MorphDK ahh ...
[11:27] <oga> hey i was wondering if anybody could help me get my ati driver etc installed properly... i've tried just about everything and all i can do now is break my xwindow display.... i've used the forums and wiki and i'm stumped
[11:28] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> start alsamixer and mute the headphone jack sense and the line in jack sense
[11:28] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> then try
[11:29] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, still nothing :(
[11:29] <dajar> hey all
[11:29] <dajar> first time ubuntu user here! :)
[11:29] <dajar> and loving it
[11:29] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> are you sure nothing is muted?
[11:30] <MorphDK> Yes, I am sure..
[11:30] <MorphDK> The only muted are the input devices..
[11:30] <wouterl> how can I use t
[11:30] <dajar> i just have one question... i installed apache/mysql/php with the synaptic application.. eveyrthing works apart from when i try and install phpmyadmin it says cannot load mysql extension;
[11:31] <wouterl> how can I use update on my old warty?
[11:31] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> are you using the esd audio driver driver for mplayer?
[11:31] <MorphDK> Nope, ao=alsa in mplayer.conf
[11:31] <MorphDK> otherwise it won't even start :D
[11:32] <GNULinuxer> Moder> change it to esd
[11:32] <Zeinin> hey
[11:32] <Zeinin> anyone familiar with persistant crash-to-login bugs?
[11:32] <topyli> wouterl: update?
[11:32] <Vassilis> Hi
[11:32] <Vassilis> Hi?
[11:33] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, I had some problems with slow sound in ESD, so I got an advice in here to change everything to ALSA... .(
[11:33] <dajar> hey here
[11:33] <Zeinin> sup
[11:33] <GNULinuxer> MorphDK> hmm
[11:33] <MorphDK> GNULinuxer, so everything is configured for ALSA now
[11:33] <Vassilis> So let me get into my point. Is there a way to see my ntfs disc using Ubuntu Live cd?
[11:33] <wouterl> topyli: well firefox for example (Synaptic package manager apply button doesn't work and I can't mark things as update ...)
[11:34] <topyli> Vassilis: sure, you just have to mount it
[11:34] <dajar> i thought ntfs was unstable
[11:34] <dajar> with linux comp
[11:34] <keikoz> it is for writing
[11:35] <Zeinin> this is really annoying, every 10-20 seconds, ubuntu will reboot to the login screen, and i cannot ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of xwin, it just clicks out and pops back in
[11:35] <topyli> dajar: mount it read-only
[11:35] <keikoz> on read no pbls
[11:35] <dajar> ah
[11:35] <ekCo> hmmph
[11:35] <Vassilis> @ topyli ....and that happens as... ?
[11:35] <dajar> sorry
[11:35] <ekCo> teamspeak still doesnt work!
[11:35] <Zeinin> so right now, i am using windows because ubuntu is really broken, anyone ever fix this?
[11:35] <johnnybezak> Zeinin: fix what
[11:36] <Zeinin> ..
[11:36] <Zeinin> constant and persistant crashes every 15 seconds
[11:36] <topyli> Vassilis: something like "sudo mount -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0 /dev/hdXX /mnt"
[11:36] <stian> morphDK> tru muteing everyting but master pcm and external amp, then turn master and pcm ALL the way up an then down again. that worcked for me.
[11:36] <dajar> really?
[11:36] <Zeinin> it dumps me back to the login
[11:36] <dajar> i only get fatal errors when i boot up
[11:36] <dajar> but it still works
[11:36] <ekCo> this is really annoying, every 10-20 seconds, ubuntu will reboot to the login screen, and i cannot ctrl-alt-bksp to get out of xwin, it just clicks out and pops back in
[11:36] <Zeinin> the first time after install
[11:36] <MorphDK> stian, i guess it's worth a try
[11:36] <ekCo> zeinin..
[11:36] <Zeinin> thanks ekco
[11:36] <keikoz> Zeinin the server X then probably
[11:36] <ekCo> what are you trying to do?
[11:36] <Vassilis> is the definition of the absolute linux newbie....
[11:36] <Zeinin> i am trying to use my computer
[11:37] <ekCo> yes ofcourse.. but in what way is it rebooting?
[11:37] <r2d4> Hi! Any sound gurus here? Still having problems.
[11:37] <Zeinin> the x-server seems to crash and restart
[11:37] <Zeinin> i end up back at the ubuntu login screen
[11:37] <ekCo> whats does
[11:37] <ekCo> 'dmesg' say *
[11:37] <Zeinin> what?
[11:38] <Zeinin> hmm?
[11:38] <Zeinin> i dont have the actual time to check anything
[11:38] <teroedni> hmm is w32 codecs removed from the reps ?
[11:38] <Zeinin> like, i cannot even get to a terminal
[11:38] <ekCo> control + alt + F1
[11:38] <MorphDK> stian, didn't work
[11:38] <ekCo> login as root
[11:38] <Zeinin> k
[11:38] <stian> morphDK> I think it has someting to do whit alsa seeing the volum control as 0 or 0 before you turn i all the way up once
[11:38] <oga> is there anybody in here that can help me get my fglrx drivers to work.... i'm totallly stumped,
[11:38] <ekCo> type root, and pw, then type dmesg
[11:38] <Zeinin> then what?
[11:39] <MorphDK> stian, but now i've turned it all the way up, then down, then up and finally down again..
[11:39] <stian> morphDK> 1 or 0 that is
[11:39] <Zeinin> "scrollkeeper" seems to be bitching alot when i can get a terminal screen
[11:40] <beavis> need help ... with the network
[11:40] <beavis> pls
[11:40] <beavis> anybody willing ?
[11:40] <Nobodyreal> Has anyone managed to get gmailfs working on Hoary?
[11:40] <cantrel29> bob2: what was to command to kick off xorg config again?
[11:40] <ekCo> Zeinin, dmesg should give you an output on what happened..
[11:40] <teroedni> gmailfs?
[11:41] <Zeinin> right
[11:41] <Zeinin> oh, another question
[11:41] <MorphDK> well.. going for a reboot.. brb
[11:41] <beavis> guys/gals, .. i tried using the network browser but i noticed when i tried to open a file, ..
[11:41] <beavis> it has an error
[11:41] <Zeinin> in the five minutes i had in ubuntu before this bullshit started, i tried to run synaptic and it failed
[11:41] <Nobodyreal> Tereoedni: It's for mounting a gmail account to your filesystem.
[11:41] <Zeinin> something about not having exclusive control over something
[11:42] <teroedni> :)
[11:42] <dajar> ok guys
[11:42] <dajar> what would be the php4-mysql package for unbuntu
[11:42] <teroedni> never tried that ....Yet
[11:42] <ekCo> Zeinin, you must use root to do this
[11:42] <bob2> cantrel29: sueo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:42] <bob2> well, sudo
[11:42] <bob2> dajar: php4-mysql
[11:42] <beavis> i had an SMB error when i tried to open a doc file on the network browser .. anybody help ?
[11:42] <dajar> its not working
[11:42] <dajar> E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql
[11:42] <dajar> when i apt get
[11:43] <CDK> hello
[11:43] <bob2> dajar: yes, it's in the universe repository
[11:43] <dajar> sorry how would i get to that
[11:43] <dajar> first time unbuntu user here! :D
[11:43] <cantrel29> bob2: thankyou again.
[11:43] <CDK> this is the first time i have ever used irc its pretty cool
[11:43] <bob2> do you know how to use a text editor?
[11:43] <dajar> yes
[11:44] <topyli> !universe
[11:44] <ubotu> topyli: I don't know
[11:44] <topyli> hm
[11:44] <cantrel29> yes
[11:44] <bob2> dajar: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, read the bit about universe and uncomment the lines
[11:44] <CDK> this might be a stupid question but how do i get this chat to be on the desktop?
[11:44] <bob2> then run 'sudo apt-get update', then try installing it again
[11:44] <CDK> like a wallpaper
[11:45] <bob2> you can't
[11:45] <bob2> not easily, anyway
[11:46] <ekCo> how do i install wine?
[11:46] <ekCo> i added the repos etc, but still cant be found
[11:46] <Nobodyreal> ekCo: Which repos?
[11:46] <bob2> ekCo: paste your /etc/ap/sour to #flood
[11:46] <bob2> er, you know what file I mean
[11:47] <s00d> Hi. I'm having a little trouble installing IPTables::IPv4. I'm trying to install the module so I can use the linblock.pl script from www.dessent.net. I've manually downloaded it and done 'perl Makefile.pl' and 'make install', and all seems to have gone swimmingly. But after when trying to run linblock.pl I still get the following error message: 'Could not connect to iptables interface: iptables who? (do you need to insmod?)' Is
[11:47] <s00d>  there something I've missed here?
[11:47] <ekCo> ok
[11:47] <beavis> i had an SMB error when i tried to open a doc file on the network browser .. anybody help ?
[11:47] <alonso> hi all!!
[11:47] <CDK> did you try it with the ip
[11:48] <alonso> i need some suggestion
[11:48] <CDK> sometimes the host names can be off at least on my network
[11:48] <CDK> ip always works tho
[11:48] <ekCo> bob2 check flood
[11:49] <beavis> i can't open a doc file when i access it on a shared folder on a network server .. how come ???
[11:49] <alonso> i want to change refresh rate, because it just only 60 Hz, it bad for me
[11:49] <bob2> beavis: does it work if you copy it to the desktop first?
[11:49] <bob2> ekCo: and paste the error you get from 'sudo apt-get install wine' to #flood, too
[11:49] <beavis> yes .. it works
[11:49] <beavis> bob2 : yes it works .. tried it ....
[11:49] <mlambie> can in run ubuntu i386 on an Athlon 64 bit processor?
[11:50] <beavis> bob2 : but if i do that , .. i'll have to copy / paste it again on the server.
[11:50] <ekCo> mlambie, yes.
[11:50] <mlambie> because i've finished the install, and it says "error cannot load operating system"
[11:50] <beavis> bob2: is there anything easier like the one windows does ?
[11:50] <mlambie> which seems like a grub error
[11:50] <ekCo> err
[11:50] <ekCo> which version?
[11:50] <bob2> beavis: sure, mount it prerly
[11:50] <mlambie> hoary
[11:50] <microhaxo> bullshit, Viewing my NTFS Drives FCKED windows
[11:50] <ekCo> bob2, sent
[11:50] <bob2> microhaxo: ctop it
[11:50] <beavis> bob2: you mean i have to do it manually ?? no front-end based ?
[11:51] <microhaxo> ctop it?
[11:51] <bob2> "stop"
[11:51] <microhaxo> stop
[11:51] <microhaxo> what
[11:51] <bob2> ranting
[11:51] <microhaxo> im pissed, if you had to pay 120 for a new windows
[11:51] <bob2> if you have a problem, explain what you did
[11:51] <ekCo> lol
[11:51] <microhaxo> it cant be fixed
[11:51] <bob2> right
[11:51] <bob2> because if yo ucan't fix it, it must be impossible
[11:51] <microhaxo> now im stuck with  ubuntu
[11:51] <microhaxo> bob2
[11:51] <ekCo> bob2, sent, check when helped microhaxo
[11:51] <microhaxo> im a very experienced windows user
[11:52] <microhaxo> i know when it cant be fixed
[11:52] <bob2> I'm sure you are
[11:52] <microhaxo> i need to format
[11:52] <bob2> that I'm less convinced of
[11:52] <mlambie> ekCo, i am booting off a sata disk, and it worked with the 64_x86 install earlier today
[11:52] <microhaxo> bha
[11:52] <bob2> ekCo: hrm...you're not on amd64,, are you?
[11:52] <goliat> whats the command to nat all trafic from tun1 "tunnel interface" to eth1
[11:52] <microhaxo> somehow viewing my ntfs drives FUBARD windows, its missing files, it wont boot, ETC
[11:52] <xabbu|> morning guys.
[11:52] <microhaxo> bad morning
[11:52] <mlambie> problem is, some software i need only comes packaged as rpms, and they only work with alien on 32 bit
[11:52] <topyli> microhaxo: reading an ntfs partition does no harm to it
[11:53] <bob2> microhaxo: "viewing"?
[11:53] <microhaxo> yes it does
[11:53] <bob2> microhaxo: what exactly did you do?
[11:53] <topyli> you wrote to it
[11:53] <microhaxo> you cant
[11:53] <Nobodyreal> ecKo: May sound like a stupid question...  you've run "apt-get update" right?
[11:53] <microhaxo> write to ntfs
[11:53] <bob2> microhaxo: see, the reason we doubt you is because no one else has ever seen this
[11:53] <ekCo> bob2, im on 64bit.
[11:53] <microhaxo> you know
[11:53] <lukus001> How can i install w32codec on chroot
[11:53] <xabbu|> What has happend?
[11:53] <bob2> ekCo: wine doesn't work on an amd64 machine
[11:53] <ekCo> yes Nobodyreal
[11:53] <microhaxo> i have a story like this with red hat.. HERE is how it went:
[11:53] <ekCo> :|
[11:53] <bob2> ekCo: er,on the amd64 ubuntu port
[11:53] <topyli> microhaxo: sure you can write to it, it's just dangerous
[11:53] <ekCo> it has the howto on winehq for ubuntu lol
[11:53] <bob2> microhaxo: we don't care about some other story, tell us what you did this time
[11:54] <microhaxo> :|
[11:54] <microhaxo> wasted all that typing
[11:54] <microhaxo> i didnt do anything
[11:54] <microhaxo> i was in gnome
[11:54] <microhaxo> playin mp3's
[11:54] <ekCo> i got cedega running on 64bit without a 32bit chroot :P
[11:54] <bob2> ekCo: it says you can install it on the amd64 ubuntu port?
[11:54] <bob2> microhaxo: show us your /etc/fstab, in #flood
[11:54] <microhaxo> and i wanted to play a little CounterStrike source, so i booted into windows, and it was fine
[11:54] <microhaxo> k
[11:54] <catfox> are there any packages for beagle on hoary? or is it easy to get working from beagle source?
[11:55] <lukus001> Does anyone know how i can install the w32codec ?
[11:55] <bob2> catfox: doesn't modern beagle require mono 1.1?
[11:55] <ekCo> bob2, not exactly
[11:55] <microhaxo> lol
[11:55] <Ubuntu> hi
[11:55] <bob2> lukus001: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:55] <microhaxo> you want the list of files in directory?
[11:55] <Nobodyreal> So...  Nobody has ideas on how I could get gmailfs working?
[11:55] <bob2> microhaxo: no, I'd like to see your /etc/fstab file
[11:55] <lukus001> bob2: when i do apt-get it says it has no install candiadte
[11:55] <microhaxo> it wont open
[11:55] <microhaxo> gedit
[11:55] <microhaxo> hrm
[11:55] <bob2> lukus001: you need to read that wiki page
[11:55] <lukus001> okay
[11:55] <beavis> bob2: you mean i have to do it manually ?? no front-end based ?
[11:56] <microhaxo> #flood
[11:56] <topyli> catfox: http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall . make sure to read it all first
[11:56] <bob2> beavis: basically, yes
[11:56] <ekCo> bob2, i gtg.
[11:56] <catfox> topyli, thanks
[11:56] <ekCo> thanks for help anyways
[11:56] <bob2> ekCo: np, sorry for not being of more use
[11:56] <bob2> tata
[11:56] <microhaxo> bob2 check it
[11:57] <bob2> microhaxo: so, now you have to stop whinging, forever
[11:57] <bob2> microhaxo: you're using captive ntfs
[11:57] <bob2> when it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces
[11:57] <microhaxo> what?
[11:57] <ekCo> heh, actually
[11:57] <microhaxo> i dont do anything with my windows drives
[11:57] <ekCo> i will be back later
[11:57] <microhaxo> i just boot to them>
[11:57] <bob2> 19:56:42      microhaxo |  /dev/hdb1 /mnt/captive-new_volume captive-ntfs defaults,noauto 0 0
[11:57] <microhaxo> i have never Written to them
[11:57] <ekCo> to fix teamspeak, maybe you might have an idea?
[11:58] <microhaxo> yea i installed that yesturday
[11:58] <bob2> microhaxo: whatever, you went out of your way to install and configure captive ntfs
[11:58] <microhaxo> it was broke YESTURDAY
[11:58] <microhaxo> i wanted to replace a dll
[11:58] <bob2> that ate your disk, that's entirely your own fault
[11:58] <microhaxo> in linux
[11:58] <ekCo> bob2?
[11:58] <bob2> yes, writing to ntfs is not safe from linux
[11:58] <microhaxo> IT was FUCKING BROKEN B4 that!
[11:58] <bob2> and will corrupt your disk
[11:58] <microhaxo> omg
[11:58] <microhaxo> forget it
[11:58] <microhaxo> windows = broken for 3 days now
[11:58] <bob2> ekCo: never used it, sorry
[11:58] <bob2> microhaxo: ok!
[11:58] <microhaxo> captive ntfs installed = yesturday
[11:59] <ekCo> k
[11:59] <microhaxo> Bob2 how do i remove captive ntfs
[11:59] <microhaxo> ?
[11:59] <microhaxo> just delete the lines?
[11:59] <bob2> that would be a start
[11:59] <microhaxo> err
[11:59] <microhaxo> bob2
[11:59] <bob2> you installed it from source, so I ddon't know where you put the rest of the bits
[11:59] <xabbu|> Why not just put in the winXP disc and make repair the system?
[11:59] <microhaxo> captiventfs is on my EMPTY NTFS hd
[11:59] <microhaxo> windows is on hda1
[11:59] <bob2> microhaxo: ok!
[12:00] <bob2> oga: please keep things in the channel
[12:00] <lukus001> bob2: that link isn't of any use... it doesnt help me get the codecs ?:S
[12:00] <bob2> oga: all I can suggest is reading the howto again and making sure you followed all the steps
[12:00] <oga> thanks bob2
[12:00] <bob2> oga: and that the drivers support your card
[12:01] <microhaxo> God dammit, now i need to go buy a new windowsxp cd
[12:01] <microhaxo> :|
[12:01] <bob2> why on earth would you need to do that?
[12:01] <microhaxo> mine is Scratched to hell
[12:01] <bob2> if you installed windows, presumably you own a windows disk
[12:01] <microhaxo> its Scratched
[12:01] <microhaxo> i havent had to reinstall windows for EVER
[12:01] <microhaxo> it works FLAWLESSLY
[12:01] <beavis> buy pirated .... lots here
[12:01] <lukus001> just by a cd de-scratcher
[12:01] <microhaxo> pirated doesnt give me updates
[12:02] <beavis> yes it does .. it does for us here
[12:02] <bob2> annnnnyway
[12:02] <beavis> heheheheh
[12:02] <xabbu|> awn your cd--key isn't scratched right..?
[12:02] <Ubuntu> hi i will take over my xp computer with my ubuntu pc how? i tright it with terminal server client but err
[12:02] <beavis> sorrry am not so techie, .. can't help you people who need help
[12:02] <beavis> i need help too
[12:03] <microhaxo> i dont have my cd key anymore, if i can boot into windows and retreive it
[12:03] <beavis> :P
[12:03] <CDK> hehe there is a cd key gen for xp
[12:03] <xabbu|> Ubuntu, Have you activated the Terminal server on your windows computer?
[12:03] <lukus001> So does anyone know how i can get w32codecs installed? i just get file missing install candidate
[12:03] <xabbu|> lukus001: Is your repositories updated?
[12:04] <Ubuntu> yes ssh i believe secure security client
[12:04] <lukus001> xabbu|: yes they are
[12:04] <xabbu|> Okey.
[12:04] <bob2> lukus001: just get the tarball from mplayer.hu
[12:05] <nubbe> I need a better ntfs reader than the default (better error-handling), is there any such thing?
[12:05] <Hylas> is installing .deb files individually dangerous? I've heard it can screw the system over if they fail!
[12:05] <xabbu|> microhaxo: Well, thats your fault. Why on earth would you store your cd-key on your harddrive?
[12:05] <bob2> nubbe: no
[12:05] <CDK> if i install form source how do i uninstall
[12:05] <microhaxo> err
[12:05] <microhaxo> cus i never had to use it
[12:05] <microhaxo> i didnt store it
[12:05] <microhaxo> i can get a program to read it
[12:05] <bob2> Hylas: not if they're from ubuntu, but in practice you won't need to do that
[12:05] <CDK> like i said there is a way to change it and update it
[12:05] <microhaxo> off of windows
[12:05] <nubbe> bob2, that's bad :(
[12:05] <CDK> with a keygen
[12:05] <nubbe> for me
[12:05] <bob2> nubbe: why?
[12:05] <bob2> anyway, all this windows stuff is off topic
[12:06] <bob2> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:06] <CDK> yes i had a simple question how do i uninstall something i installed from source
[12:06] <lukus001> bob2: that site isnt in english :s lol
[12:06] <xabbu|> ubuntu, You need the have a ssh server installed on windows if you are to use ssh.
[12:06] <microhaxo> bah
[12:06] <Hylas> because I've got xmms and mplayer here as rpm's and I was going to convert them to deb with alien then install them. I have a slow internet connection so i try to stay away from downloading
[12:06] <nubbe> bob2, I could read some files with xp, but not with ubuntu, that I need...
[12:06] <microhaxo> If linux could actually run a damn game, CEDEGA is complete BS, wont run Counterstrike source whatso ever..
[12:07] <bob2> CDK: you can't, in general.  "make uninstall" might work if yo ustill have the original source tree still
[12:07] <bob2> microhaxo: so, if you're a paying customer, go to their site and vote for it
[12:07] <CDK> i c
[12:07] <bob2> Hylas: I'd strongly recommend not doing that
[12:07] <Hylas> ok
[12:07] <microhaxo> it is "Supported"
[12:07] <nubbe> bob2, and I know th aprtition is flaky, so I guess win handles the errors better
[12:07] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> what  files?
[12:07] <bob2> CDK: in future, checkinstall and stow are useful for that
[12:07] <bob2> microhaxo: then file a bug with them if it doesn't work
[12:07] <microhaxo> but just my luck it wont run on my sys
[12:07] <Ubuntu> xabbul: ok i use secure shell client
[12:07] <xabbu|> okey
[12:07] <bob2> microhaxo: ranting here isn't going to help it work, sorry
[12:08] <microhaxo> nothing will help
[12:08] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, why?
[12:08] <microhaxo> im pissed
[12:08] <bob2> microhaxo: then be pissed somewhere else
[12:08] <bob2> CDK: plese keep it on-channel
[12:08] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> you said you can't view them in ubuntu ... that's why
[12:08] <bob2> CDK: they do different things, but checkinstall is probably simpler
[12:08] <CDK> sorry m8 i dont know how to talk to just you
[12:09] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, No, I said I can't read them
[12:09] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, As in ubuntu can't get the data from the ntfs part
[12:09] <microhaxo> ARG, i cannot connect to this FTP, it needs SECURE connection but when i use SSH2 it times out?!?!
[12:09] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> aha
[12:09] <microhaxo> using Gftp
[12:09] <xabbu|> Anyone knows of any hardware checking software for linux. That sees if something is broken like agp-ports and stuff.
[12:10] <bob2> microhaxo: ssh has nothing to do with ftp over ssl
[12:10] <bob2> xabbu|: I'm pretty sure it's not possible to detect that from software
[12:10] <microhaxo> then how do i connect securely?
[12:11] <xabbu|> Okey...
[12:11] <microhaxo> gFTP
[12:11] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> NTFS read support is there in the ubuntu kernel
[12:12] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, yes, but that doesn't cut it for me, that's why I asked if there was sometething better, more elaborate out there
[12:12] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> can you succesfully mount the partition?
[12:13] <microhaxo> bob2: how do i connect securely to this ftp?
[12:13] <bob2> microhaxo: I don't know what "ftp" you're talking about
[12:13] <microhaxo> i said
[12:13] <bob2> I hear gftp can do ftp/ssl, tho
[12:13] <microhaxo> its my prif ftp
[12:13] <microhaxo> anyway
[12:13] <bob2> "prif" is not a word
[12:13] <microhaxo> gFTP
[12:13] <microhaxo> itsa  damn TOPSITE Mk
[12:14] <microhaxo> so
[12:14] <bob2> I have no idea what a "TOPSITE Mk" is, either
[12:14] <microhaxo> you dont need to know
[12:14] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, I can mount and read most of it, just a few files that has errors, and did under xp too, but I just didn't realise that before, since I could read them with xp (that is no more)
[12:14] <opteron> QUOTE WHOIS %s %s
[12:14] <microhaxo> i need to connect to a server with SECURE Access.
[12:14] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> it's corrupt now
[12:14] <bob2> microhaxo: throwing around buzzwords doesn't help
[12:15] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, NOOO?? really??   ;)
[12:15] <bob2> microhaxo: presumably it speaks ftp/ssl
[12:15] <bob2> microhaxo: if that doesn't work, talk to whoever runs it
[12:15] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> the xp failure must have happended after you tried to read them from ubuntu, right?
[12:15] <microhaxo> yea sure, but how do i select this option in gFTP?
[12:15] <microhaxo> there is just drop down boxes
[12:15] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> just apt-get install ntfsprogs
[12:15] <microhaxo> ftp , http ,local ,ssh2,fsp
[12:15] <opteron>
[12:15] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, I'll look at them
[12:16] <GNULinuxer> nubbe> and use ntfsfix from there and try to fix it
[12:16] <microhaxo> 530 USE SECURE CONNECTION
[12:16] <nubbe> GNULinuxer, that I don't think I'll do
[12:17] <s00d> No takers? :-(
[12:18] <bob2> I'd use a less obscure firewall system, I guess
[12:18] <microhaxo> like?
[12:18] <tapia> hi
[12:18] <tapia> I have a problem with my ubuntu
[12:19] <tapia> I have it installed Breezy in my ibook G4
[12:19] <microhaxo> is there an easy to use FTP app?
[12:19] <bob2> gftp is pretty easy to use
[12:19] <tapia> and some dist-upgrade has broken my X keyboard layout
[12:19] <floo> does anyone know anyting about name resolution?
[12:19] <microhaxo> lol thats what im using
[12:19] <bob2> tapia: you're using hoary, right?
[12:19] <microhaxo> and it wont connect meh
[12:19] <tapia> bob2: no, breezy
[12:19] <tapia> it worked rigth till today
[12:19] <microhaxo> whats the diff between breezy and hoary?
[12:19] <bob2> microhaxo: lftp does it
[12:20] <bob2> breezy is the development branch
[12:20] <tapia> i had it configured for spanish layour
[12:20] <tapia> layout
[12:20] <bob2> which is not recommended for people who can't fix their own systems
[12:20] <tapia> but now it is english
[12:20] <bob2> I guess X is broken again; you'll have to wait for daniel to fix it
[12:20] <bob2> try looking ni bugzilla, there's probably a workaround already
[12:20] <tapia> and gnome-keyboard-properties crashes if i try to change the layout
[12:21] <microhaxo> bob2
[12:21] <microhaxo> says i already got it
[12:21] <microhaxo> is it gui or terminal?
[12:21] <bob2> cool
[12:21] <bob2> terminal
[12:21] <microhaxo> aww
[12:22] <bob2> I thought all leet kiddies knew how to use command line ftp clients
[12:22] <microhaxo> im a windows user dammit
[12:22] <microhaxo> its only day 10 on linux
[12:22] <bob2> you use a gui client on windows? heh
[12:22] <microhaxo> wtf
[12:22] <Dalkus> microhaxo, you'll get used to it in no time :)
[12:22] <bob2> it's easy to use
[12:22] <microhaxo> they dont make a "Terminal" FTP client for windows
[12:22] <microhaxo> hah
[12:22] <Dalkus> microhaxo, theres plenty of gui ftp clients for linux too if you like
[12:22] <bob2> microhaxo: er, it ships with one
[12:22] <Dalkus> microhaxo, they do
[12:23] <bob2> microhaxo: type ftp in a command window sometime
[12:23] <tapia> microhaxo: apt-get install gftp-gtk
[12:23] <microhaxo> k
[12:23] <microhaxo> thanks
[12:23] <microhaxo> i have gftp
[12:23] <microhaxo> lol
[12:23] <microhaxo> i need a diff one
[12:23] <microhaxo> it wont let me connect securely
[12:24] <odie5533> Using Telnet to a website, what command downloads the page?
[12:24] <floo> can anyone help me with a problem?  I keep getting "temporary failure in name resolution"  I can ping ip addrsses and the router but no domains.  I've checked resolv.conf and everything's ok there similarly with /etc/hosts... aaarrgghh!!! any ideas?
[12:24] <bob2> odie5533: GET
[12:25] <bob2> floo: can you ping the nameserves in /etc/resov.conf?
[12:25] <odie5533> GET what?
[12:25] <odie5533> just "GET"
[12:25] <microhaxo> thats the command
[12:25] <floo> yes no probs there
[12:25] <bob2> GET $path HTTP/1.1
[12:25] <bob2> or just ues the GET command from libwww-perl
[12:25] <bob2> or wget
[12:25] <bob2> or ...
[12:25] <Triffid_Hunter> you need HOST too if you specify HTTP/1.1
[12:26] <bob2> hmm, right
[12:26] <microhaxo> the only reason why i dont like linux is: i spent lots of money on my nifty RADEON X800XT PE and linux cant do anything with it.
[12:26] <floo> ok I'll give that a go, thanks
[12:26] <Triffid_Hunter> that's ATI's fault, not linux's
[12:26] <odie5533> microhaxo: ebay
[12:26] <microhaxo> bah
[12:26] <microhaxo> no i am a GAMER
[12:26] <odie5533> sell it, and buy a real card, an nvidia
[12:26] <odie5533> me too
[12:26] <microhaxo> BAH
[12:27] <microhaxo> nvidia sucks ass
[12:27] <odie5533> :O
[12:27] <microhaxo> i can own any of you in a 3dmark 05 benchmark
[12:27] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah my fx5200 works just fine in linux ;)
[12:27] <bob2> microhaxo: try to actually be polite
[12:27] <bob2> and no one cares how big your video card is
[12:27] <Ubuntu> xabul: ill tright it but connection refused he says
[12:27] <microhaxo> bah
[12:27] <odie5533> mines like bigger than my box
[12:27] <Dalkus> bob2, talk for yoruself
[12:27] <odie5533> it wont even fit in
[12:27] <odie5533> so i win
[12:27] <microhaxo> lol
[12:27] <microhaxo> no
[12:27] <microhaxo> mine has 16 pipelines
[12:27] <Vassilis> anyone to spare a minute for a newbie?
[12:27] <microhaxo> hah
[12:27] <odie5533> mine has its own power supply, and two led fans, i win
[12:27] <microhaxo> no
[12:27] <bob2> and my radeon works fine in ubuntu
[12:28] <microhaxo> mine works
[12:28] <Dalkus> Vassilis, dont ask to ask, just ask :)
[12:28] <microhaxo> but WHAT Games can i play?!
[12:28] <Vassilis> is there a way to pm just not fill the window?
[12:28] <microhaxo> who wants to play tux racer, integrated graphics card can run that 50FPS +
[12:28] <microhaxo> yea
[12:28] <microhaxo> ./msg
[12:28] <Triffid_Hunter> microhaxo: quake1,2,3, doom1,2,3, unreal, unreal tournament (goty,2003,2004), diablo 2 all work 100% on my box
[12:28] <microhaxo> not on mine
[12:28] <microhaxo> unreal spits out some error
[12:28] <microhaxo> that is
[12:28] <sly> cos you got a sh**t card maker
[12:28] <microhaxo> Americas army
[12:28] <Triffid_Hunter> probably your shit video card ;)
[12:29] <microhaxo> ...
[12:29] <odie5533> bob2: If I want to get the /abc dir from telnet, what do I type?
[12:29] <microhaxo> in windows
[12:29] <microhaxo> ATI = king
[12:29] <sly> lmao @ windows
[12:29] <Dalkus> odie5533, why are you using telnet?  dont think so :) YOu just have to put time into learning about it
[12:32] <sly> that is not the OS fault , thats the card maker............. blame them not linux
[12:32] <s00d> It would help if the driving instructors instructed.
[12:32] <microhaxo> what
[12:32] <microhaxo> no
[12:32] <Dalkus> omg, it's called imagination
[12:32] <microhaxo> im talkin about INSTALLing apps
[12:33] <Dalkus> putting something in perspective? jeez....
[12:33] <microhaxo> dont release an amd64 kernel if you dont have packages to back them up
[12:33] <sly> installing appz ??? what beats apt-get
[12:33] <microhaxo> what beats it?
[12:33] <microhaxo> well
[12:33] <Dalkus> microhaxo, yes - you have to learn how to isntall apps, its just just one click install and wham like in windoze
[12:33] <microhaxo> when you are running a amd64 release that dont ACCEPT like any damn programs
[12:33] <microhaxo> i know how to apt-get
[12:33] <microhaxo> apt-get update
[12:34] <microhaxo> all that shit, it doesnt work well at all, they have no repositories for this release yet, but yet they release it to public..
[12:34] <Dalkus> microhaxo, well, not many windows apps are geard for x64 either.
[12:34] <microhaxo> i can run windows x64 fine
[12:34] <sly> microhaxo may i ask how much your work paid for an offcial licence to run server 2003
[12:34] <microhaxo> runs all my games?
[12:34] <microhaxo> and ati
[12:34] <sly> and not the copy you took in from home
[12:34] <microhaxo> lots of damn money
[12:34] <microhaxo> but it runs FLAWLESSLY
[12:34] <Dalkus> my box runs flawlessly
[12:34] <Triffid_Hunter> hehe emerge easy beats apt-get, but thats just an opinion ;)
[12:35] <microhaxo> i have compiled stuff in linux to get it to work, i have changed it from rpm to deb, i have just ran it, i have installed from the package manager, sure its pretty easy but if 90% of the $hit isnt there to download and use why release an os
[12:35] <microhaxo> read the ubuntu forums, countless amd64 problems
[12:35] <floo> Yes but genttoo can take forever compiling software before you can useit
[12:36] <Dalkus> microhaxo, read any OS' forums
[12:37] <Dalkus> countless x84 problems
[12:37] <Triffid_Hunter> floo: 's what stage3/--usepkg is for.. and its well worth the extra compile time to me, after all the problems i've had with debian and the like
[12:37] <Dalkus> thats the chipset, not the distro.
[12:37] <Dalkus> you cant expect a new technology to work instantly
[12:37] <floo> I'm not against Gentoo, I tried a stage 1 compile but after a week of trying to get kde to compile, enough ws enough
[12:37] <Dalkus> people need time to develop for it - be patient..
[12:39] <microhaxo> i work for geeksquad at best buy
[12:39] <microhaxo> they have well enuff for windows 2003
[12:39] <microhaxo> lol
[12:39] <microhaxo> server
[12:39] <xabbu|> Still why buy it?
[12:42] <sly> so what is your actualy problem here microhaxo ?
[12:42] <microhaxo> my problem is
[12:42] <microhaxo> linux broke meh windows
[12:42] <microhaxo> and now im stuck with linux
[12:42] <microhaxo> and it cant even play my damn games
[12:42] <microhaxo> so i have a very expensive system for nothing
[12:42] <sly> you mean you simple didnt know what you was doing when installing a bootloader ?
[12:42] <Dalkus> microhaxo, install windows again?
[12:42] <sly> and dived in head first to install linux ?
[12:43] <microhaxo> my cd is FUBAR
[12:43] <Dalkus> microhaxo, borrow a friends then
[12:43] <microhaxo> and i dont have my cdkey, i ususally get it off of windows
[12:43] <sly> well your connected to the internet, download it
[12:43] <Dalkus> /me didnt say that
[12:43] <microhaxo> Im trying to download it
[12:43] <microhaxo> get me a decent FTP CLIENT
[12:43] <microhaxo> !
[12:43] <ubotu> microhaxo: I don't know
[12:43] <sly> apt-get install gftp
[12:44] <sly> also i beleive flashfxp runs good in wine
[12:44] <microhaxo> hah
[12:44] <microhaxo> noting works in my wine
[12:44] <microhaxo> :|
[12:44] <Dalkus> nah, ubuntu build of wine sucks - I can't deny that
[12:44] <microhaxo> lol
[12:44] <Dalkus> microhaxo, get amule to download it
[12:44] <Dalkus> or use bittorrent
[12:45] <microhaxo> i did
[12:45] <microhaxo> and it was DUTCHE
[12:45] <Dalkus> so... check before you download next time?  Let's interchange!
[12:53] <microhaxo> wont work
[12:53] <microhaxo> its froze
[12:53] <microhaxo> my pc Amd a64 3400
[12:54] <microhaxo> 2.4ghz
[12:54] <microhaxo> 1mb cache
[12:54] <microhaxo> 10+
[12:54] <microhaxo> now
[12:54] <microhaxo> God dammit
[12:55] <microhaxo> Bah
[12:55] <Echylo> back
[12:55] <microhaxo> had to restart x
[12:55] <microhaxo> it was all froze
[12:55] <ThE__OnE> why does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp
[12:56] <microhaxo> cuz linux = paranoid
[12:57] <ThE__OnE> bob2, are you there?
[12:58] <Hylas> I can't see mplayer or xine-gui in apt-get, any ideas?
[12:58] <Echylo> Hylas, www.ubuntuguide.org add the repo's
[12:59] <ThE__OnE> why does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp
[12:59] <Echylo> btw quick question, can I change the colors of the menu bar? cause now I have black text on black wallpaper
[12:59] <Hylas> ok
[12:59] <Echylo> ThE__OnE, maybe you don't have static ip? cause It would be weird that windows wouldn't have it, ur sure it's your outside ip?
[12:59] <ThE__OnE> uhh, YEA!
[01:01] <mjt> oh well. a bunch of bots.
[01:01] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodafternoon #ubuntu!
[01:01] <ThE__OnE> flood
[01:01] <ThE__OnE> Seveas
[01:01] <ThE__OnE> you can hopefully answer my question
[01:01] <ThE__OnE> why does my ip adress keep changing everytime i reboot ubuntu? I have cable and it never did that for winxp
[01:01] <microhaxo> Wtf is going on
[01:02] <ThE__OnE> join part flood
[01:02] <microhaxo> I dir into where FLASHFXP is
[01:02] <microhaxo> and i do
[01:02] <microhaxo> CEDEGA flashfxp.exe
[01:02] <microhaxo> and it opens it for .141414 of a second and closes?
[01:02] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, join/part flood?
[01:02] <Seveas> did I miss something?
[01:03] <microhaxo> no but seveas, you did miss my question ;)
[01:03] <microhaxo> why does flashfxp.exe open for .150140 of a second and close?
[01:03] <microhaxo> with no error
[01:03] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, maybe your cable provider changed things
[01:03] <Seveas> microhaxo, no idea, I never use windows software on linux
[01:03] <microhaxo> poo
[01:03] <ThE__OnE> Seveas, it changes every time
[01:03] <ztonzy> who the heck is ^^furkan^^  ???
[01:03] <ThE__OnE> i dont think they wil change it every time
[01:04] <ThE__OnE> i reboot
[01:04] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, if you use dhcp, it changes all the time
[01:04] <Seveas> maybe windows kept the dhcp lease longer
[01:04] <pusling> ztonzy: probably someone with a homepage and images
[01:04] <Seveas> but the nature of dhcp is that you can get a different IP address all the time
[01:04] <ThE__OnE> dhcp?
[01:05] <ztonzy> pusling, posting link in PM to me in a language that is ALIEN to me
[01:05] <ThE__OnE> i dont use anyth9ing
[01:05] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, that's what you use when not using a fixed address...
[01:05] <ThE__OnE> ianm using a fixed address
[01:05] <ztonzy> lolita ? heh
[01:05] <ThE__OnE> i had the same addres for 2years
[01:05] <pusling> ztonzy: sure. I got sometning alike. and there is probably coming more in the next period of time.
[01:06] <ztonzy> pusling, spamming ?
[01:06] <Seveas> stupid kiddies...
[01:06] <pusling> ztonzy: look at all the joins/parts
[01:06] <ztonzy> uh
[01:08] <microhaxo> GUYS
[01:08] <microhaxo> i cant install wine
[01:08] <microhaxo> without installing libwine
[01:08] <Seveas> of course...
[01:08] <microhaxo> which i cant because in package manager it says that its a dummy file?
[01:09] <microhaxo> libwine:
[01:09] <microhaxo>  Depends: wine  but it is not installable
[01:09] <microhaxo> soo, can anyone give me the files so i can install or is there a way around this?
[01:09] <ThE__OnE> Seveas, do you haev an answer?
[01:10] <Seveas> microhaxo, libwine in the official ubuntu repos is ok
[01:10] <microhaxo> seveas
[01:10] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, i gave you an answer already...
[01:10] <microhaxo> i just pasted my error when trying to dload them?
[01:10] <microhaxo> libwine:
[01:10] <microhaxo>  Depends: wine  but it is not installable
[01:10] <Seveas> you use dhcp, so you can get it...
[01:10] <ThE__OnE> can it be something that Ubuntu does while looking up for internet that causes an ip change?
[01:10] <Seveas> microhaxo, have you enabled multiverse?
[01:10] <microhaxo> yes
[01:10] <microhaxo> universe and multiverse
[01:11] <Seveas> microhaxo, maybe you should disable backports...
[01:14] <microhaxo> seveas
[01:14] <microhaxo> that doesnt work?
[01:14] <Beredon> trying to install ubuntu 5.04 with vmware. all seems fine until the error "No partitionable media were found" when it attempts to partition the disk. any ideas?
[01:14] <microhaxo> wth do i do?
[01:15] <pusling> Seveas: what about mode -r again ?
[01:15] <Seveas> microhaxo, apt-get update after disabling backports
[01:15] <Sly86> micorhaxo is this all for flashfxp still ?
[01:15] <Seveas> pusling, i want to give it a few minutes...
[01:15] <pusling> Seveas: okay
[01:17] <microhaxo> seveas
[01:17] <microhaxo> dont work
[01:17] <microhaxo> at all
[01:18] <microhaxo> seveas
[01:18] <microhaxo> wth is goin on now, EVERY time i look at glxgears
[01:18] <Seveas> microhaxo, then you have done something weird...
[01:18] <microhaxo> now my drivers arnt loaded
[01:18] <microhaxo> WTF
[01:18] <ThE__OnE> how do i change pdfs from being oopen with Xpdf?
[01:18] <microhaxo> hmm
[01:18] <Seveas> microhaxo, try installing it, if a dependency fails, try installing that dependency with apt-get
[01:19] <Seveas> until you get a more clear error than 'is not installable'
[01:19] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, rightvlivk on a pdf, select properties...
[01:19] <microhaxo> seveas, my graphics are being weird
[01:19] <microhaxo> 2000fps in glxgears
[01:19] <microhaxo> this is what fglrxinfo shows
[01:19] <microhaxo> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:19] <microhaxo> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 XT Generic
[01:19] <microhaxo> OpenGL version string: 1.3.4769 (X4.3.0-8.8.25)
[01:19] <Seveas> microhaxo, that's a good score
[01:19] <microhaxo> thats bad
[01:19] <microhaxo> i was gettin 6000
[01:19] <microhaxo> 7425
[01:20] <microhaxo> was average
[01:20] <microhaxo> now i get 2000
[01:20] <microhaxo> ?
[01:20] <holycow> no
[01:20] <holycow> i bet you scaled up your glx gears window
[01:20] <microhaxo> err it looks the same to me?
[01:20] <Seveas> microhaxo, well, maybe you made the glxscreen bigger or had the window behind other windows...
[01:20] <holycow> change the size of the window and your rate will change
[01:21] <microhaxo> no
[01:21] <microhaxo> its the same
[01:21] <microhaxo> if i make it smaller than 64/64 i get 3000
[01:21] <microhaxo> somthing is wrong
[01:21] <microhaxo> b4 i got 7000
[01:21] <microhaxo> +
[01:22] <microhaxo> ontop of that
[01:22] <microhaxo> point2play says i dont have cedega installed?
[01:22] <microhaxo> wtf?
[01:22] <Sly86> microhaxo why would you be installing stuff such as that when you are trying to download windows to go back to it ?
[01:22] <microhaxo> this has been installed
[01:23] <microhaxo> and windows ant goin no where
[01:23] <microhaxo> cuz
[01:23] <microhaxo> i cant connect to the server to download windows
[01:23] <microhaxo> dammit
[01:23] <microhaxo> BECAUSE cedega wont load flashfxp
[01:23] <pusling> apt-get install windows
[01:23] <Sly86> gftp then
[01:23] <Sly86> haha @ pusling
[01:23] <holycow> wtf?
[01:23] <Seveas> microhaxo, use gftp/nautilus/other *linux* ftp tools
[01:23] <holycow> flashfxp?
[01:24] <Seveas> there are enough of them...
[01:24] <holycow> what the hell you need that for?
[01:24] <Seveas> and we do not support copyright infringment in here..
[01:24] <pusling> E: Couldn't find package windows
[01:25] <holycow> what Seveas said
[01:25] <microhaxo> seveas you mean the places connect one?
[01:26] <Seveas> microhaxo, there are lots of ftp tools for linux...
[01:26] <microhaxo> i need one that runs on x
[01:26] <Seveas> you can use firefox
[01:26] <microhaxo> lol
[01:26] <Seveas> or nautilus
[01:26] <microhaxo> i need
[01:26] <microhaxo> SECURE access
[01:26] <Seveas> konqueror...
[01:26] <Seveas> nautilus/konqueror can do that...
[01:26] <microhaxo> how?
[01:26] <Seveas> sigh
[01:26] <Seveas> i explained that 3 times yesterday...
[01:26] <Seveas> don't you ever listen?
[01:26] <microhaxo> no :|
[01:27] <_pax> Any Kontact users around? Kontact is getting annoying, asking for password every time I send or try to receive email. My pass is stored already, why does it keep asking?
[01:27] <Seveas> well, neither will I..
[01:27] <Seveas>  /ignore
[01:27] <Sly86> Ouch
[01:27] <unreal> nice, just booted up the livecd on my other box, had the computer literally own me at connect4 :/
[01:28] <Seveas> lol unreal :)
[01:28] <microhaxo> what the fk
[01:28] <microhaxo>  Seveas added to ignore list.
[01:28] <microhaxo> and i see him say lol unreal
[01:28] <unreal> maybe you need to add Seveas*!*@* instead
[01:28] <Sly> what i realy want to see is a network play frozen-bubble
[01:28] <xabbu|> omg
[01:28] <microhaxo> i did
[01:28] <Seveas> Sly, hehe :)
[01:29] <_pax> to ignore someone, just leave the room.
[01:29] <Sly> damn i installed kubuntu for friend the other day........... and i apt-get'd frozen-bubble befor other things
[01:29] <microhaxo> lol
[01:29] <unreal> (I keep typing ebuntu for some reason, almost got to the habit of typing ubuntu now, but maybe that's just another one of my retarded sides heh)
[01:30] <_pax> ebuntu,org just got registred, thanks for the idea.
[01:30] <_pax> Just kidding :)
[01:30] <_pax> Hey, no Kontact users?
[01:30] <Sly> right im outa here to go do real life things :) , take care
[01:30] <pusling> does anyone run ubuntu on anything? isn't ubuntu just a big hoax ? ;)
[01:31] <Seveas> pusling, sssssst :)
[01:31] <Sly-Away> microhaxo if i was you i would ask around all your friends for windows disk, because from what i have heard you talk about for the past hour or so, its what you realy want
[01:31] <Seveas> Don't let the minions of Gates find out ;)
[01:31] <_pax> hehe
[01:32] <Seveas> unreal, please don't
[01:32] <Seveas> that can get soooooo messy
[01:32] <unreal> lol
[01:33] <pusling> off for work
[01:35] <microhaxo> someone tell me how the hell i can connect to a ftp SECURELY via Konqueror?
[01:35] <microhaxo> i cant find any docs on google
[01:35] <pusling> ftp is not secure.
[01:36] <Seveas> sftp is :)
[01:36] <pusling> yeah... but that is different thing
[01:37] <londonboi2k3>  FTP is not a secure method for transfering files
[01:37] <londonboi2k3> according to http://www.ncl.ac.uk/iss/network/ftp/
[01:37] <siimo> microhaxo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:37] <rob^> microhaxo, you could via a vpn
[01:38] <chase> when i installed ubuntu it never gave me and apt repositorys. can someone tell me what the default are or point me to a web pages that has it?
[01:38] <rob^> or even with ipsec
[01:39] <Seveas> chase: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:39] <Seveas> chase: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:39] <rob^> chase, have you checked your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:39] <holycow> chase type in sudo apt-setup
[01:39] <londonboi2k3> this is good for repos http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:40] <chase> rob^, ye the only this in it deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[01:40] <rob^> ah
[01:40] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, ubuntuguide is bad, do not advise it...
[01:40] <rob^> well follow one of those links then
[01:40] <rob^> weard
[01:40] <rob^> Seveas, maybe, but at the moment its better organised
[01:40] <pusling> Seveas: why is ubuntuguide bad ?
[01:40] <londonboi2k3> When i use ubutu, (i dont anymore) as a new user i found it to be very good. :)
[01:40] <ru1812> hello
[01:41] <Seveas> pusling, misinformation, suboptimal to plain wrong solutions and no explanations at all...
[01:41] <Sly-Away> londonboi2k3 is it sunny down there ?
[01:41] <londonboi2k3> in fact i found it to be better then any other install guide for the other distros
[01:41] <londonboi2k3> not so much today
[01:41] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, the faq on the ubuntu site is much better
[01:41] <londonboi2k3> yesturday it was 34c
[01:42] <Sly-Away> im sat here with ALL windows/doors open and a fan pointing directly at me which im still sweating
[01:42] <londonboi2k3> Seveas: i cant comment on that guide, i sorta went back to debain not anyways ;)
[01:42] <pusling> and it is even hotter at work... and I need to go, but ;=
[01:42] <londonboi2k3> Sly: we have the air con on full here, but i would love a fan too! so bloody hot, wanna share you fan :)
[01:43] <Sly-Away> lol
[01:43] <ru1812> i found ubuntu good for new users and advanced
[01:43] <_pax> I found Ubuntu. period
[01:43] <londonboi2k3> grr, i keep forgetting the r in your..... Mental note to self remember your 'r's :)
[01:44] <unreal> heh, ubuntu is going to be good for new users, mainly because you just stick the disc in and have everything done for you :P
[01:44] <londonboi2k3> ubuntu is a great distro, but i did have one tiny problem with it! I could not play wma files
[01:44] <pusling> and ubuntu is good for advanced users becouse you stick in the disc, and all the basics works
[01:44] <londonboi2k3> that really did not annoy me too much tho
[01:44] <londonboi2k3> true
[01:44] <pusling> londonboi2k3: wma is evil
[01:44] <steob> everything done for you? ahh thats why I had to d/l  ALSA, frig around wif USB and still get garbled sound
[01:45] <synopsys> salve a tutti
[01:45] <londonboi2k3> yeah i know, but i could be be bothered to convert 2500+ songs
[01:45] <londonboi2k3> they were given to me by my partner who uses M$ windows
[01:45] <Seveas> londonboi2k3, with w32codecs wma works :)
[01:45] <kvidell> You have 2500+ wmas?
[01:45] <londonboi2k3> yeah, i know it should, but it dosent on my install, i tried 4 times, even with the xmms-wma deb
[01:45] <topyli> londonboi2k3: you can play wmas after installing the evil codec
[01:46] <kvidell> What kind of a sadistic prank was that? Did you smack the person who did that to you with a stick?
[01:46] <_pax> Ubuntu can't make coffee yet, how come!
[01:46] <kvidell> _pax: No, but I can :D
[01:46] <londonboi2k3> lol @ kvidell
[01:46] <kvidell> French Press ahoy
[01:46] <Seveas> the wma encoding is very good
[01:46] <topyli> _pax: install coffee.el to your emacs
[01:46] <_pax> Oui oui.
[01:46] <pusling> 2500+ wmas is even more evil. And if they are digital restriction management wma (DRM-wma) you have lost.
[01:46] <Seveas> the DRM and other crap that surround it aren't
[01:46] <londonboi2k3> no DRM on them :)
[01:47] <londonboi2k3> altho i did get sent some MP4's and they have loads of DRM so i cant play them atall
[01:47] <unreal> heh, I laughed a tiny bit when installing the latest FreeBSD release with a few packages... it didn't prioritize which to install first, it just went through the list.. forcing you to take out disc 1, put disc 2 in, then take out disc 2 and put disc 1 back in, several times... least ubuntu only has one disc so far :p
[01:47] <londonboi2k3> but only got 15 of those
[01:48] <londonboi2k3> why is it that mondays at work drag and go so damm slow
[01:48] <microhaxo> i cannot sftp to this server i get this error
[01:49] <microhaxo> Unknown error
[01:49] <microhaxo>  Error encountered while talking to ssh.
[01:49] <Sly-Away> londonboi be thankful your at work im off down job center in 30mins
[01:49] <londonboi2k3> @ microhaxo, does it have ssh setup to acess it securely via ftp? or how ever it is setup! do
[01:49] <londonboi2k3> ooooo, which part of london? north east south or west?
[01:50] <mindspin> Sly-Away ;-)
[01:50] <londonboi2k3> or you not from london
[01:50] <Sly-Away> nah, sheffield :)
[01:50] <londonboi2k3> oooo
[01:50] <londonboi2k3> :)
[01:50] <Sly-Away> all the way down that bigass m1
[01:50] <beavis> need help ......... regarding packages
[01:50] <londonboi2k3> hehe
[01:50] <Seveas> beavis, just state the problem
[01:50] <beavis> i want to upgrade my samba version to 3.14
[01:50] <beavis> but .. i cant see it on the packages list
[01:50] <beavis> of synaptic
[01:51] <londonboi2k3> well i went to the JC for 6 months before getting this job but the day i got this i was offered 3 at the same time! Just like waiting for a bus
[01:51] <topyli> beavis: what's in samba 3.14?
[01:51] <Seveas> beavis, 3.14 will never be added to Hoary, Hoary is stable..
[01:51] <beavis> i'm used to the one in VLOS where i can update the package list over the net
[01:51] <beavis> oh ...
[01:51] <beavis> well anyway .. here's another prob ...
[01:51] <Seveas> beavis, wait for breezy to stabilize and use that :)
[01:51] <beavis> i want it to be like windows ... wherein when i access a server over the network, ...
[01:52] <beavis> i can open the document file
[01:52] <beavis> i tried it .. but there seems to be an smb error
[01:52] <topyli> what sort of error?
[01:52] <mindspin> which?
[01:52] <beavis> hold on .. let me replicate the error again
[01:52] <mindspin> was does /var/log log.smbd say
[01:52] <Seveas> beavis, how are you accessing, via an smb:// url in nautilus or using smbmount?
[01:53] <Seveas> or are you serving..?
[01:53] <beavis> nautilus
[01:53] <topyli> fagbreaker
[01:53] <beavis> sorry, am used to windows so much i want to try this ubuntu .. i think it's kewl
[01:53] <beavis> but .. have no background on linux so i'd rather ask
[01:54] <mindspin> it works here very fine although I#m not used to windows...
[01:54] <Seveas> beavis, what is the error you get..?
[01:54] <beavis> file cannot be found
[01:55] <beavis> im connecting to a windows 2003 server
[01:55] <Seveas> beavis, try smb://ip-adress-of-the-server
[01:55] <vulcanoo> bonnjour
[01:55] <AMDXP> man its bad to fall asleep in chat
[01:55] <beavis> uhm ... ok .. will try now
[01:55] <Seveas> hello vulcanoo
[01:55] <wuhuu> hi
[01:55] <vulcanoo> hello why is there no icon when i install a app?
[01:55] <topyli> AMDXP: yeah, your snoring flooded the darn channel
[01:56] <Seveas> vulcanoo, because the package that the application came in did not define a menu entry...
[01:56] <Seveas> topyli: lol!
[01:56] <vulcanoo> ok so i have to use smeg?
[01:56] <Seveas> vulcanoo, that's a good option
[01:56] <topyli> vulcanoo: or maybe the menu just hasn't updated yet
[01:57] <wuhuu> I just switched form debian sid to ubuntu hoary but now my kdesu isn't working anymore it says: "Conversation with su failed" on debian sid everything worked fine... what could that be?
[01:57] <beavis> Seveas : ... here is the error .....
[01:57] <beavis> "Error Loading Document "
[01:57] <topyli> wuhuu: we don't use su
[01:57] <vulcanoo> thanks.But i thought that every app which is installed with a ubuntu package comes with a icon
[01:57] <_bambi> since i installed nvidia drivers to my new ubuntu, and changed the screen resolution to 1280x1024 @ 75Khz, there are some small graphic bugs, for example: clicking a small icon on my task bar produces normally a small jumping image of the program that is loading. For me, this jumping pics have an white background, but the background should be transparten
[01:57] <Seveas> vulcanoo, they are working on that
[01:58] <mindspin> wuhu ubuntu works with sudo
[01:58] <Seveas> console apps however eill never get an icon
[01:58] <Seveas> that would be pretty useless anyway :)
[01:58] <wuhuu> topyli, but i need it to configure kdm
[01:58] <beavis> "file:///home/beavis/smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/FileServ/it-shared/values.doc:/home/beavis/smb:/<IP_ADDRESS>.3/FileServ/IT-Shared/values.doc does not exist
[01:58] <mindspin> sudo kcontrol
[01:58] <Seveas> wuhuu, use plain sudo then...
[01:58] <vulcanoo> yes but i installed gribi
[01:58] <wuhuu> k
[01:58] <vulcanoo> grisbi
[01:58] <wuhuu> thx
[01:58] <topyli> wuhuu: use sudo in a terminal
[01:58] <beavis> Seveas: .. that's the entire error msg.
[01:58] <Seveas> beavis, ehm, you didn't try smb://ip-address as i said
[01:59] <Seveas> you just added it to a file:///home/neavis url
[01:59] <beavis> i tried it ...
[01:59] <beavis> used run applic ... then the nautilus popped up ...
[01:59] <vulcanoo> most apps i have installed: digikam en grisbi ->no icon
[01:59] <beavis> browsed to the file to open it
[01:59] <beavis> but this is the error
[01:59] <Seveas> beavis, try places -> connect to server (that's less easy to do wrong)
[02:00] <_bambi> hi
[02:00] <_bambi> i got a smaller probmel too
[02:00] <vulcanoo> bye
[02:00] <topyli> vulcanoo: not nearly all packages make those menu entries yet (except into the debian menu)
[02:00] <vulcanoo> ok thanks a lot.
[02:01] <_bambi> :)
[02:01] <_bambi> i got a small problem with my ubuntu
[02:01] <_bambi> and my nvidia drivers
[02:01] <londonboi2k3> what is your problem exactly?
[02:02] <_bambi> there are some small graphic bugs: When i click on an application, there is this small jumping pic, indicating that the app is loading. This Pictures have an White background for me
[02:02] <_bambi> but not straight white, some buggy background
[02:03] <Seveas> jumping pic..?
[02:03] <_bambi> picture
[02:03] <_bambi> small icon
[02:03] <Seveas> normally there are no jumping pictures on Ubuntu...
[02:03] <_bambi> well its kubuntu
[02:03] <mindspin> its kubuntu
[02:03] <Seveas> _bambi, try #kubuntu then :)
[02:03] <mindspin> hhaha
[02:03] <_bambi> Lol, i came from there :)
[02:04] <mindspin> lol
[02:04] <Seveas> hehe :)
[02:04] <holycow> Seveas, heh
[02:04] <holycow> you are going to get worn out
[02:04] <holycow> i think i understand why they are so grumpy in #debian
[02:04] <Seveas> holycow, why..?
[02:04] <londonboi2k3> whys that?
[02:04] <holycow> you've been answering the same question all night
[02:04] <Seveas> not really
[02:05] <londonboi2k3> hmm, maybe thats why i got banned for a month 2 years ago ;)
[02:05] <londonboi2k3> from #debian that is
[02:05] <holycow> hehe
[02:05] <Seveas> for all these over-and-over repeated things i have shortcuts :)
[02:05] <holycow> it's good to see enthusiasm :)
[02:05] <holycow> i got my 'smite those that don't google' 2x4 ready to go
[02:05] <holycow> :)
[02:06] <holycow> aka. the cluexfour
[02:06] <_bambi> is that a hint for me? should i rather google my problem?
[02:06] <holycow> no no, not at all
[02:06] <Seveas> _bambi, nono :)
[02:06] <_bambi> well i did, but i didn't find some solution :D
[02:06] <holycow> it just means i don't have the patience Seveas does :)
[02:06] <Seveas> I just don't use KDE, so I cannot help you
[02:06] <londonboi2k3> _bambi, maybe this is a problem with your nvidia card
[02:06] <Seveas> try the mailing list, there are more smart people over there
[02:07] <londonboi2k3> since you said you are having problems with that too
[02:07] <beavis> Seveas: Found out the error is due to open office ...
[02:07] <_bambi> Ah in fact its only this little problem
[02:07] <londonboi2k3> which is?
[02:07] <Danar> Seveas, i think he said the problem was with his nvidia drivers, not kde, so you might be able to help...
[02:07] <beavis> Seves: I tried opening a text file with gedit .. it opened in the original network location
[02:07] <beavis> Seveas: but when i tried it w/ open office 1.1.3 ... it had location error
[02:07] <londonboi2k3> problems with my ATI card cocked up lots om gnome for me till i fixed it :)
[02:08] <beavis> Seveas: How can i upgrade the open office ?
[02:08] <_bambi> The Problem is, that the jumping icons (you see when an application is loading) comes with an white buggy background, but they should be transparent
[02:08] <topyli> hmm. i thought openoffice would use gnomevfs
[02:08] <\sh> is there a tool for a desktop-background rotation?
[02:08] <londonboi2k3> ok we got that, but what is the little problem with your nvidia card?
[02:08] <Danar> _bambi, are you using the official drivers?
[02:09] <Seveas> beavis, a beta version of OO.o 2 is in the Universe repository
[02:09] <_bambi> i installed nvidia-glx
[02:09] <Seveas> beavis, but both do not understand the gnome-vfs, so this will not work
[02:09] <Danar> from where?
[02:09] <Seveas> you will have to mount the samba shares
[02:09] <londonboi2k3> and have you setup your xorg.conf file correctly?
[02:10] <londonboi2k3> assuming that you installed the correct nvidia drivers
[02:10] <Seveas> _bambi, have you run the command: nvidia-glx-enable
[02:10] <_bambi> i think so, cause now i even got the possibility to use my monitor @ 1280x1024, which was impossible before
[02:10] <beavis> Seveas: Can you please teach me how to download it on the repository ..
[02:10] <Danar> _bambi, did you have this problem with the previous drivers?
[02:10] <londonboi2k3> and is it using the "nv" drivers?
[02:10] <beavis> Seveas: I tried checking updates ... nothin'
[02:10] <microhaxo> whats the command to see 3d benchmark like glxgears
[02:10] <Seveas> beavis: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:10] <microhaxo> is it fglgears?
[02:10] <Seveas> beavis: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:11] <dmoyne> is-it safe to download KDE 3.4.1 ?
[02:11] <_bambi> Ich chose nv drivers, but didn't experience the problem before
[02:11] <Seveas> dmoyne, downloading it will not hurt ;)
[02:11] <_bambi> I chose nv drivers, but didn't experience the problem before
[02:12] <dmoyne> not sure as sometimes it can put the mess especially with NOT AUTHENTICATED packages !
[02:12] <Seveas> dmoyne, well, that's be installing :)
[02:12] <Seveas> and I wouldn't install KDE from anything but official ubuntu repositories if i were you..
[02:12] <_bambi> i had to reconfigure the xserver, because before it only offered 1024x768 for screen resolution, so i installed the nvidia-glx and reconfigured xserver
[02:12] <londonboi2k3> fglx_gears i think micro
[02:13] <dmoyne>  Seveas, wahtdo you mean : have you installed it ?
[02:13] <Seveas> dmoyne, no, I don't like KDE :)
[02:13] <Danar> _bambi, so maybe they're not installed properly or something
[02:13] <_bambi> this maybe, but how can i check this?
[02:13] <Seveas> but since KDE is one of the most important parts of your desktop, never install it from backports or such...
[02:14] <new2gentoo> has anyone seen this? http://www.debianpure.com? i wonder why this did not happen sooner
[02:14] <dmoyne> ok I think I will wait for the packages be proposed on typical repositries !
[02:15] <topyli> new2gentoo: nice wallpaper on the gnome screenshot
[02:15] <holycow> not new user friendly?
[02:16] <holycow> thats just crap
[02:23] <microhaxo> bo that dont work
[02:23] <microhaxo> fglx_gears
[02:23] <microhaxo> :|
[02:23] <ThE__OnE> is it possible to browse through the pictures in a folder with the arrow keys instead of opening each seperate one?
[02:24] <topyli> graungaard: that must be the longest hostnames i've seen in a while :)
[02:26] <beavis> Seveas: Have trouble updating repository .. can you just give me the URL
[02:27] <Danar> repository urls are here: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:29] <beavis> tnx i'll check it out first
[02:29] <beavis> wish me luck
[02:29] <beavis> :))
[02:29] <new2gentoo> ThE__OnE, try page up/down
[02:30] <microhaxo> guys
[02:30] <microhaxo> how do i change this?
[02:30] <microhaxo> GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:30] <microhaxo> i want it to be ati
[02:31] <microhaxo> ET says im using MESA software but fglrxinfo says ATI>?
[02:33] <GNULinuxer> welcome _eXoDuS
[02:33] <_eXoDuS> now, shit, since when did mplayer start depending on xmms??? I wasn't informed about it, this is lame!
[02:33] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, it does not...
[02:33] <_eXoDuS> try apt-get install mplayer-686 in hoary
[02:34] <Seveas> and please watch your language...
[02:34] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> we need to be cool with  noobs
[02:35] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, i stand corrected...
[02:35] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: lame isnt it?
[02:35] <Seveas> I still use an old one from marillat though :)
[02:35] <_eXoDuS> ah :)
[02:35] <_eXoDuS> sorry i just apt-get upgraded from sid to hoary to try it out, and that really bited me
[02:36] <Seveas> I can imagine..
[02:36] <ThE__OnE> is it possible to browse through the pictures in a folder with the arrow keys instead of opening each seperate one?
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> that should be fixed sincerely
[02:36] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, you can use eog
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> mplayer doesn't depend on xmms at all
[02:36] <ThE__OnE> eog?
[02:36] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, file a bug then :)
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: ugh :)
[02:36] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, try eog *.jpg
[02:36] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> which component of xmms can mplayer *possibly* use?
[02:36] <cmihai> Hmf, no sshd in a default Ubuntu install ?!
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: where?
[02:36] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, i wouldn't know
[02:36] <Seveas> maybe mp3 decoding..?
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> GNULinuxer: none ,really, in sid it doesn't depend on mplayer at all
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> err
[02:36] <_eXoDuS> on xmms
[02:36] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:36] <GNULinuxer> cmihai> it's in the CD
[02:37] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: ok ill do that, thanks
[02:37] <cmihai> GNULinuxer: is it ?
[02:37] <cmihai> Well, didn't install it by default from what I can see
[02:37] <Seveas> cmihai, correct
[02:37] <GNULinuxer> cmihai> yeah ... but it is not installed by default
[02:37] <ThE__OnE> from the terminal?
[02:37] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: also, not to be an ass, but who thought that closing spatial windows when opening new ones was a good idea?? :/
[02:37] <cmihai> Grr, that's crap.
[02:37] <Seveas> the Ubuntu policy is to install no services by default
[02:37] <Seveas> cmihai, no it's good :)
[02:37] <GNULinuxer> cmihai> when you try to apt-get it, it'll ask for the cd
[02:37] <microhaxo> how do i  change my i686 kernel from 2.6.7-13 to 2.6.8-1.
[02:37] <microhaxo> ?
[02:38] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, there have been very long discussions about it
[02:38] <Seveas> you can disable that behaviour in gconf
[02:38] <_eXoDuS> yes i know
[02:38] <cmihai> Yea, now it's only a matter of "where the hell did I put the CDROM".
[02:38] <Seveas> I didn't like that behaviour too
[02:38] <_eXoDuS> i found the key after looking for a lil bit
[02:38] <Seveas> cmihai, you can install it from the net too :)
[02:38] <_eXoDuS> but i think it's very lame, just use browser mode if you dont like spatial
[02:38] <topyli> yeah. who killed spatial!
[02:38] <_eXoDuS> but that is like a limited browser mode
[02:38] <_eXoDuS> no way to go back (if not for the lower left menu)
[02:39] <Seveas> :)
[02:39] <trashman> hiall
[02:40] <cazabam> blimey, 2 seconds on the channel and I recognise spatial nautilus discussion :)
[02:40] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: i really hope they change that behaviour in the future
[02:40] <Seveas> Oh and if anyone wants a rationale for why i muted microhaxo (just for the logs): he's being a pain in the ass, never listening to suggestions and generally trolling
[02:40] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: ah, i was wondering ;)
[02:40] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, lots of people do, lots of people don't
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> thanks for the explanation
[02:40] <micro> this is bullshit
[02:40] <micro> dont fucking QUIETME
[02:40] <GNULinuxer> hardocp> don't troll
[02:41] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: well done :p
[02:42] <trashman> Iam using alsa drivers for my sound card ,but when Im watching a video it doesnt syncronize with the sound.Are there other drivers I can use?
[02:42] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, i think that microhaxo disagrees with you :)
[02:42] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> lol
[02:42] <cazabam> trashman: it's unlikely that the alsa drivers are the problem
[02:42] <_root_> anybody got patch to http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-1111 issue ?
[02:42] <cazabam> trashman: what video player(s) have you tried?
[02:42] <Seveas> trashman, try another media player, usually it's the media player that causes these things
[02:43] <Seveas> _root_, it's still a CVE under investigation...
[02:43] <trashman> seveas :I used mplayer,gmplayer,xine,gxine,totem...
[02:43] <Seveas> _root_, keep an eye on the security mailing list
[02:43] <Seveas> trashman, hmm...
[02:44] <Seveas> does it happen with all video formats?
[02:44] <trashman> seveas :yes,even with dvds
[02:44] <_root_> Severas: i am checking on some.. could you suggest a good one
[02:44] <Seveas> _root_, I meant the ubuntu-security list :)
[02:44] <Seveas> that's where ubuntu security notices are announced
[02:45] <_root_> Seveas : it would be nice if you give the complete link
[02:45] <Seveas> trashman, which one goes faster..?
[02:45] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: mmm, bugzilla keeps telling me i should select a component, if not just guess... what is it talking about??
[02:45] <Seveas> _root_, lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo
[02:45] <_root_> Seveas : thanx
[02:45] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, ehm ,disregard my advise
[02:46] <Seveas> _eXhumed, unuverse/multiverse bugs should go to malone
[02:46] <Seveas> launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone iirc
[02:46] <_eXoDuS> oh, didnt notice mplayer was on universe
[02:46] <Seveas> it's in multiverse
[02:46] <_eXoDuS> in multi?
[02:46] <_eXoDuS> mmm
[02:47] <Seveas> yeah, it's non-free like software (mp3 related badnesses)
[02:47] <Seveas> wow
[02:47] <Seveas> split splat
[02:47] <topyli> heh
[02:49] <Danar> 'mp3 related badness'?
[02:49] <topyli> sometimes i wonder how freenode channels stay up at all
[02:49] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: done
[02:50] <Seveas> _eXoDuS, excellent
[02:50] <Danar> Seveas, 'mp3 related badness'?
[02:50] <_eXoDuS> =]
[02:50] <topyli> Danar: nobody knows the exact legal status of mplayer. no-one can be bothered to spend the three years in court
[02:50] <_eXoDuS> Danar: anything non free is called badness :)
[02:50] <Seveas> Danar, mp3 is tricky business regarding patents
[02:50] <_eXoDuS> Danar: and mp3's licensing future is uncertain
[02:50] <Seveas> so there are mists of non-freeness lingering around lots of mp3 related software
[02:50] <Danar> i had the impression mp3 was open :/
[02:50] <_eXoDuS> no, not a bit
[02:50] <Seveas> Danar, wrong impression :)
[02:51] <Danar> yeah... now i remember
[02:51] <Danar> bah
[02:51] <topyli> it's as evil as they come
[02:51] <Danar> o.O
[02:51] <_eXoDuS> Seveas: i feel dirty installing xmms for mplayer :/
[02:51] <Danar> hrm, is mp32ogg considered badness?
[02:52] <Danar> since it can obviously deal with mp3s...
[02:52] <james> I am trying to transcode some ShowShifter video files into another format. I've been told gstreamer is the tool for this; when I use gst-launch, I get the error "Could not determine type of stream". Any ideas?
[02:52] <_eXoDuS> Danar: most likely yes
[02:52] <Danar> but it just converts them
[02:52] <topyli> it's considered penance :)
[02:52] <cazabam> maybe mp32ogg is just transient badness...
[02:52] <Danar> o.O
[02:52] <cazabam> a pergatory of media formats :)
[02:53] <topyli> i wonder if the evil travels from mp3 to ogg through the conversion
[02:53] <Seveas> topyli, lol :)
[02:53] <Danar> it just converts mp3 to ogg... it oughtta be 'non-bad'
[02:53] <Danar> topyli, lol
[02:53] <topyli> it just might guys! ;)
[02:53] <cazabam> don't let the mpaa hear that...
[02:53] <Danar> you mean the riaa :p
[02:54] <cazabam> yess....
[02:54] <cazabam> I don't want no tainted oggs!
[02:54] <james> Can anyone help me with my video transcoding?
[02:55] <Danar> my oggs are tainted... (assuming they still exist :()
[02:55] <topyli> james: speak of the devil :)
[02:56] <cazabam> from the mp32ogg page: " THIS DEGRADES THE QUALITY, because it goes from one lossy format to another"
[02:56] <topyli> yes
[02:56] <cazabam> the evil eats away the goodness of the ogg!
[02:56] <james> topyli, can you help me? :)
[02:56] <Danar> yeh, but there were only a few songs where i noticed any degradation
[02:56] <topyli> james: sorry, i haven't transcoded a video in my life
[02:56] <Danar> and you can set it on the highest quality...
[02:57] <topyli> flac!
[02:57] <cazabam> I encode(d) my mp3s to 320kbit, so they should be great
[02:57] <ernesto_> hi ppl... i have a problem at my Add/Remove Applications Control Panel... When  I call it, the window opens and it loads, loads, loads... but never shows nothing... someone know how to fix or reinstall it  ?
[02:57] <Danar> that would make them huge though
[02:57] <cazabam> flac is like 33rpm vynil
[02:58] <Danar> uh, ernesto_ , this is an #ubuntu channel, not a windows channel :p
[02:58] <cazabam> 3 times bigger but better quality (arguable :))
[02:58] <ThE__OnE> where can i get themes for ubuntu?
[02:58] <cazabam> danar: hoary has an add/remove programs applet in the programs->system menu
[02:58] <ThE__OnE> can i jsut search google for "linux themes"?
[02:58] <Seveas> ernesto_, that application should not be used, try System->administration->package manager instead
[02:58] <topyli> Danar: flacs are big, yes
[02:58] <cazabam> danar: unless you knew that, in which case ignore me :)
[02:58] <james> topyli, okay thanks anyway
[02:58] <james> I'll post my problem
[02:58] <james> I am trying to transcode some ShowShifter video files into another format. I've been told gstreamer is the tool for this; when I use gst-launch, I get the error "Could not determine type of stream". Any ideas?
[02:59] <ernesto_> Danar, but it's happening at my   UBUNTU!!!!
[02:59] <Danar> ah, i see
[02:59] <topyli> ThE__OnE: for gnome, http://gnome-look.org and http://art.gnome.org
[02:59] <Danar> system tools > add/remove
[02:59] <ThE__OnE> thanks you
[03:00] <cazabam> ernesto danar: yep - that one's a bit weird though - I have had it fail when synaptic is fine...
[03:00] <Danar> there ought to be themes in the repository
[03:00] <topyli> there are some
[03:00] <Danar> heh, clicking advanced opens synaptic
[03:00] <ThE__OnE> topyli, so i can get any theme as long as its for gnome?
[03:01] <topyli> ThE__OnE: yeah
[03:01] <ernesto_> Seveas: i know about other ways to install/uninstall programs but it was working fine until yesterday...
[03:01] <ThE__OnE> ok
[03:01] <james> Does anyone know anything about gstreamer?
[03:01] <ernesto_> I simply dont want a part of my software bugged...
[03:02] <Seveas> ernesto_, perhaps you have installed an updated version of pygtk related things...
[03:02] <Danar> ernesto_, might be better off using synaptic
[03:02] <cazabam> james: not sure that gstreamer supports showshifter?
[03:03] <Danar> ernesto_, in gnome, System > Administration > Synaptic
[03:03] <ernesto_> seveas, probably you are right... the problem appeared after an update
[03:03] <Seveas> :)
[03:03] <cazabam> james: needs a plugin for each supported format or decoding library - google turns up blank
[03:03] <Seveas> ernesto_, are you using backports/other unofficial repositories or smeg?
[03:04] <james> cazabam: Thanks. Is there a tool to figure out the encoded audio and video layers for GNU/Linux?
[03:04] <Wimpie> I need to recompile the kernel because of swsusp.  I installed 2.6.11 package but patch on suspend2 site is not very good.
[03:04] <cazabam> james: transcode is probably your best bet, but it's a pain to install
[03:04] <ernesto_> seveas, yes... i have used unnoficial repositories... i changed my repositories list
[03:04] <Wimpie> is there an 2.6.11-xxx package ? and where can I find which packages for 2.6.11 are available ?
[03:05] <Seveas> ernesto_, that has probably caused this bug to appear
[03:05] <ernesto_> are ther a solution for it  ?
[03:05] <cazabam> james: hmmm... according to the showshifter website it uses MJPEG and/or DIVX...
[03:05] <Danar> ernesto_, file a bug report, use synaptic until it's updated with a fix :p
[03:05] <cazabam> james: try mplayer - if that supports it, then transcode can use mplayer as a decoding filter :)
[03:06] <ernesto_> ok
[03:06] <ThE__OnE> i dont know what they call it, but once i saw a video of a wallpaper moving, any ideas on what it is called?
[03:06] <Seveas> Danar, it's NOTABUG, it's due to using unofficial repositories...
[03:06] <Seveas> ernesto_, so better not file a bug :)
[03:06] <Danar> Seveas, woops. missed that
[03:06] <topyli> ThE__OnE: "the naked lunch"
[03:06] <james> cazabam: Thanks so much! I'll try mplayer now.
[03:06] <Danar> when did "NOTABUG" become a word? :p
[03:07] <topyli> Danar: once we stopped fixing them :)
[03:07] <ernesto_> Dana: once I started Synaptic how can i turn it off as you suggested ?
[03:07] <Danar> :O
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> topyli: that movie is ... bizarre
[03:07] <Danar> ernesto_, turn what off?
[03:07] <ThE__OnE> the naked lunch?
[03:07] <topyli> HrdwrBoB: sure is
[03:08] <topyli> ThE__OnE: oh, i'm referring to your "moving wallpaper" thing :)
[03:08] <chx> I have a APC SmartUPS , I start apcd  , it starts and after a few seconds it dies. no log is made.
[03:08] <ernesto_> Danar, i think i didnt understand what you said....
[03:09] <Danar> ernesto_, which part?
[03:09] <james> How do I install mplayer on Ubuntu? I couldn't find it with apt-cache or in the Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:09] <ThE__OnE> yuo think i was making this up?
[03:09] <londonboi2k3> its in the universe repo me thinks
[03:09] <Danar> james, need the multiverse repository i think
[03:09] <topyli> ThE__OnE: no. it's just i haven't seen anything like that.
[03:09] <Seveas> james, you need to enable multiverse
[03:09] <londonboi2k3> or multiverse
[03:09] <kong0> when i install some software (azureus p2p client) i says pakage not found...i has worked b4...
[03:09] <james> Danar, where do I add that?
[03:09] <londonboi2k3> :)
[03:09] <kong0> what could be wrong?
[03:10] <Seveas> kong0, azureus is not available in the ubuntu repositories
[03:10] <Danar> paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:10] <kong0> i was yesterday....
[03:10] <Danar> james, ^ there's the lists to add to your sources.list
[03:10] <londonboi2k3> I know you guys dont like it BUT http://ubuntuguide.org/ for installing more software!
[03:10] <x3ja> Anyone got ubuntu to get updates through a MS ISA Server Web Proxy?
[03:10] <ThE__OnE> i will show you the link to the video when my friends wakes up
[03:10] <james> Seveas, how do I enable multiverse? I tried selecting each repository from the Settings dialog and then clicking OK. It seemed to add them. How do I get the multiverse one though?
[03:10] <topyli> ThE__OnE: http://www.wallpaperbase.com/animated.shtml
[03:11] <Seveas> james: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:11] <Seveas> james: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:11] <londonboi2k3> James, look at the link i just posted, it will tell you
[03:11] <kong0> its very weird cause it should be able to find azureus or else it wouldn't be posted on ubuntuguide...
[03:11] <Seveas> kong0, ubuntuguide is bad
[03:11] <ernesto_> Danar, you said  "ernesto_, might be better off using synaptic"
[03:11] <ThE__OnE> that can be it topyli
[03:11] <cazabam> kong0: I installed azureus from the repository list in ubuntuguide last week
[03:11] <Seveas> kong0, and maybe azureus is in the backports...
[03:11] <ThE__OnE> i dunt know
[03:11] <james> Seveas and londonboi2k3: Many thanks!
[03:11] <londonboi2k3> I disagree seveas ;)
[03:12] <Danar> ernesto_, yeah, it's the package manager. use it instead
[03:12] <londonboi2k3> welcome james
[03:12] <x3ja> Anyone got ubuntu to get updates through an authenticating MS ISA Server Web Proxy?  If so... please tell me how :S
[03:12] <topyli> ThE__OnE: i doubt that works on gnome
[03:12] <cazabam> seveas: yes, it is indeed in the backports
[03:12] <Danar> ernesto_, i told you where it is
[03:12] <Seveas> x3ja: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[03:12] <Danar> ernesto_, in gnome, System > Administration > Synaptic
[03:12] <kong0> no i dont think so because i downloaded it yesterday but i reformated 2day and now it cant find it...
[03:13] <Danar> kong0, lemme get this straight, you installed something, reformatted, and now wondering where it went?
[03:13] <x3ja> Seveas: sorry, was trying to be a bit more explicit second time round so people wouldn't just reply "yes" or "no"...
[03:13] <Danar> *now you're
[03:13] <cazabam> kong0: hmmm... no, it's in backports universe
[03:13] <ernesto_> Danar, ok. now it understood. thanks
[03:13] <kong0> LOL i dont know why but its my fault...
[03:14] <black13> is anyone familer with xwrapper
[03:14] <kong0> I cant find ANY pakage...
[03:14] <_eXoDuS> kong0: azureus is in backports
[03:14] <kong0> not mplayer azureus nothing
[03:14] <londonboi2k3> apt-get update maybe ;) if your repos are set up correct
[03:14] <_eXoDuS> kong0: mplayer is in multiverse
[03:14] <cazabam> kong0: in that case you're sources.list hasn't got backports in it :)
[03:14] <kong0> i have nothing to update...
[03:14] <cazabam> kong0: get the sources from ubuntuguide, it's a start even if everyone hates it :)
[03:15] <kong0> how do i fix that then?
[03:15] <_eXoDuS> kong0: you have to add backports and multiverse to your sources
[03:15] <Danar> kong0, surely you can install some... you prolly just can't install stuff from the universe/multiverse repositories
[03:15] <kong0> prob...
[03:15] <londonboi2k3> what error do you get exactly?
[03:15] <kong0> i remember installing universe multiverse but dont know how
[03:15] <kong0> changing the txt
[03:16] <Danar> in synaptic, click Settings > Repositories > Add > check universe & multiverse. reload
[03:16] <kong0> ahh lame...how am i supposed to find out how i can get universe multiverse man?
[03:17] <Danar> kong0, i just told you how
[03:17] <Seveas> kong0: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:18] <kong0> danar u havent told me ANYthing...
[03:18] <Danar> "in synaptic, click Settings > Repositories > Add > check universe & multiverse. reload"
[03:18] <finlaylabs> whats wrong with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[03:19] <Danar> kong0, or check the link Seveas gave
[03:19] <RenZ> lo'
[03:19] <bob2> kong0: please don't ignore people helping you, two seperate people have told you how to fix it
[03:19] <ablyss> here'a problem i ran into: I ./configured ; make ; make installed wine... but now synaptic is having a problems. Synaptic says there is a newer version for download, and after downloading syanpitc says it's installed, but when I open Terminal and type wine --version i get my old version
[03:20] <Seveas> ablyss, then remove your older version...
[03:20] <bob2> ablyss: that's not a proble,, it just means you have your old wone in your path before the new one
[03:20] <Danar> ablyss, prolly installed to a different location. remove the old one
[03:20] <bob2> ablyss: get rid of the one you don't want
[03:20] <ablyss> k
[03:21] <ThE__OnE> where is the firefox folder located at?
[03:21] <Danar> which one?
[03:21] <ablyss> i better unstall the synaptic version with synaptic to aviod any brokwn packages
[03:21] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[03:22] <_eXoDuS> is gksu broken for anyone else? I have the same problem in sid which is funny
[03:22] <kong0> lol that guide was strange
[03:22] <ThE__OnE> where is the firefox plugins folder located at?
[03:22] <ThE__OnE> srry
[03:22] <chrissturm> how would i use imagemagick to generate thunbnails for a directory full of jpgs?
[03:22] <Danar> ThE__OnE, dpkg -L mozilla-firefox | grep -i plugin
[03:23] <Danar> ThE__OnE, prolly /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:23] <kong0> can u give me the site again?
[03:23] <kong0> the one who gave it to me
[03:23] <londonboi2k3> scroll up
[03:23] <ThE__OnE> ya
[03:23] <ThE__OnE> thx
[03:24] <kong0> i just logge din
[03:24] <Danar> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:24] <james> What's the difference between mplayer-586, mplayer-k6 and mplayer-custom?
[03:24] <u19809> what is the best 'process' to compile a kernel using ubuntu packages ?
[03:24] <cazabam> chrissturm: for name in *.jpg; do convert $f -scale 100x100 ${f/.jpg/_thumb.jpg}; done
[03:24] <kong0> well
[03:24] <bob2> u19809: not doing it at all, if at all possible
[03:24] <Di42lo`> What is the Terminal service at windows...in linux ?
[03:24] <knucks> whats the command to shutdown the pc on ubuntu?
[03:24] <londonboi2k3> optimised for you type of processor
[03:24] <bob2> u19809: if you really need to, use make-kpkg
[03:24] <bob2> knucks: shutdown -h now
[03:24] <londonboi2k3> if you have a pentium use 586
[03:24] <u19809> bob2 : yes but I need swsusp
[03:24] <knucks> i want to set a timer
[03:24] <cazabam> chrissturm: where 100x100 replaced with dimensions you really want - it will maintain aspect, don't worry about that :)
[03:24] <bob2> Di42lo`: X is natively a network protocol
[03:24] <kong0> what was the site for man of universe multiverse!?
[03:25] <bob2> u19809: which the ubuntu kernels include
[03:25] <chrissturm> cazabam: thx a lot
[03:25] <knucks> is it possible to shutdown my pc in 2 hrs after i leave today
[03:25] <knucks> so at like 12pm
[03:25] <cazabam> chrissturm: k
[03:25] <finlaylabs> on "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" I get "xserver-xorg is not installed". This aint normal right?
[03:25] <bob2> knucks: man shutdown, it explains how
[03:25] <justin> cazabam: name isn't the same thing as f
[03:25] <Di42lo`> bob2: do you know of any program ?
[03:25] <u19809> bob2 : sure ?
[03:25] <bob2> finlaylabs: are you on warty?
[03:25] <bob2> Di42lo`: I don't know what your question is
[03:25] <londonboi2k3> did you get that james?
[03:25] <bob2> u19809: yes
[03:25] <bob2> u19809: in hoary, anyway
[03:25] <Danar> kong0, why do you consistently ignore me?
[03:25] <kong0> ignored 100%
[03:25] <james> londonboi2k3, Yes thanks
[03:25] <finlaylabs> bob2:no, hoary.
[03:25] <Di42lo`> bob2: im looking for "terminal service client" for linux
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> there a way of getting amiga running on ubuntu?
[03:25] <kong0> danar u havent even written to me ffs
[03:26] <james> londonboi2k3: I have an Athlon XP-M processor. Which should I choose?
[03:26] <bob2> kong0: if you don't stop being so obnoxious, you will be removed
[03:26] <knucks> thx
[03:26] <u19809> bob2 : how can I get it to work using hoary ?
[03:26] <bob2> Di42lo`: rdesktop, iirc
[03:26] <Danar> kong0, point made. i have indeed.
[03:26] <Akrame> hi all , please i need help ,i've installed a hoary base system , and i want to install X , so i type apt-get install xserver-xorg , but X is still not install , because i don't have any startx on my /etc/X11
[03:26] <kong0> wth is this!? im going windoes
[03:26] <finlaylabs> bob2: but it is a slower, lower-memory machine
[03:26] <Danar> kong0 i just logge din
[03:26] <Danar> Danar http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:26] <bob2> finlaylabs: then you should have x.org, yes
[03:26] <londonboi2k3> hmm, im not 100& certain, I guess it would be the K6.
[03:26] <spanglesontoast> there a way of getting amiga running on ubuntu?
[03:26] <james> londonboi2k3: Okay thanks. What's the "custom" one for?
[03:26] <londonboi2k3> but i have never used athlon
[03:26] <cazabam> kong0 is not a happy bunny :-/
[03:26] <bob2> u19809: sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> never used it im afraid :)
[03:27] <Danar> cazabam, that's is own fault
[03:27] <Akrame> hi all , please i need help ,i've installed a hoary base system , and i want to install X , so i type apt-get install xserver-xorg , but X is still not install , because i don't have any startx on my /etc/X11
[03:27] <Danar> *his
[03:27] <bob2> Akrame: so, install ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <spanglesontoast> anyone know much about amiga?
[03:27] <cazabam> danar: yep, you've got that right ...
[03:27] <james> londonboi2k3: Just an Intel guy, huh?
[03:27] <bob2> spanglesontoast: try #amiga or such
[03:27] <ernesto_> Danar and Seveas: i was looking for an unofficial package installed that could have something to the bug... but i could not find nothing obvious...
[03:27] <cazabam> danar: straaaange...
[03:27] <finlaylabs> bob2: this is my first ubuntu try. Is there a command using apt-get or whatever to install xserver-xorg?
[03:27] <londonboi2k3> yep thats me, forced, not by choice :(
[03:28] <bob2> finlaylabs: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:28] <james> londonboi2k3: How so?
[03:28] <_eXoDuS> bob2: apt-get install x-window-system
[03:28] <Danar> ernesto_, did you remove unofficial repositories?
[03:28] <londonboi2k3> It was a xmas gift
[03:28] <_eXoDuS> err
[03:28] <_eXoDuS> bob2: not for you :p
[03:28] <bob2> finlaylabs: I can't imagine how you could end up with out it, tho, unless you did somehting silly like use the expert install mode
[03:28] <ernesto_> Danar4: no
[03:28] <_eXoDuS> finlaylabs: apt-get install x-window-system
[03:28] <londonboi2k3> so i did not get to choose! can you imagine an xmas gift at 24 :)
[03:28] <Akrame> bob2 , no it will install gnome
[03:28] <londonboi2k3> my old pc died on mee
[03:28] <james> londonboi2k3: Wow!
[03:28] <Akrame> and i don't want gnome
[03:28] <Danar> ernesto_, after that, reload the package info, and reinstall pygtk
[03:28] <Danar> Akrame, so use kubuntu
[03:28] <bob2> Akrame: so...
[03:28] <james> londonboi2k3: With your next PC, will you go AMD or Intel?
[03:29] <Akrame> i want enlighetement
[03:29] <bob2> haha
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> I want an AMD 64 ;)
[03:29] <james> londonboi2k3: I figured out that it can't be the K6 version because Athlon processors are seventh-generation.
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:29] <_eXoDuS> Akrame: at least you could learn how to spell it
[03:29] <pete> anyone using ubuntu on a G4 powerbook?
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> prob in a few months time
[03:29] <james> londonboi2k3: Good choice ;)
[03:29] <londonboi2k3> is there not a K7 there
[03:29] <pete> i've got sound working but it's way low
[03:29] <Danar> Akrame, so apt-get install enlightenment
[03:29] <james> No but they stopped using the K(number) format when it got to Athlons
[03:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> akrame, do a custom install?
[03:29] <Danar> Akrame, or meditate :p
[03:30] <londonboi2k3> so you only have the chocice of the 3? K6 586 and custom?
[03:30] <Danar> londonboi2k3, there's more than that
[03:30] <james> Danar: Is there? Where?
[03:30] <james> Danar: I have all the extra repositories added.
[03:30] <ThE__OnE> mojojojo@BaD:~$ cd ~/desktop
[03:30] <ThE__OnE> bash: cd: /home/mojojojo/desktop: No such file or directory
[03:30] <londonboi2k3> I thought there should be, try apt-get install mplayer-k7 i think
[03:30] <ThE__OnE> why does it say that?
[03:31] <londonboi2k3> its been ages since i install mplayer
[03:31] <Danar> mplayer-386, mplayer-586, mplayer-686, mplayer-custom, mplayer-k6, mplayer-k7, mplayer-nogui
[03:31] <james> ThE__OnE: the desktop folder is capitalized, i.e. Desktop
[03:31] <ThE__OnE> oh
[03:31] <Danar> james, apparently not, cause those are showing for me
[03:31] <james> Danar: okay thanks
[03:31] <chrissturm> cazabam: i now get this: convert: option requires an argument `-scale'.
[03:31] <finlaylabs> bob2, _eXoDuS: long story. messy install. think I will have to run it again :-\
[03:31] <james> ThE))OnE: You're not mOjOjOjO are you?
[03:32] <_eXoDuS> finlaylabs: apt-get install x-window-system should give you what you want though, no need to reinstall
[03:32] <Danar> james, you know, there's tab-completion...
[03:32] <_eXoDuS> finlaylabs: also install ubuntu-desktop, it will install most of the desktop stuff you need
[03:32] <james> Danar: Tab completion in what?
[03:32] <londonboi2k3> in the command line
[03:32] <james> Danar, oh thanks!
[03:32] <Danar> james, in irc. type the first few chars of a name, and hit TAB
[03:33] <Danar> np
[03:33] <james> yeah similar to Bash
[03:33] <james> I < linux
[03:33] <ThE__OnE> james, why?
[03:33] <james> because are you from platform2?
[03:33] <Danar> you are less than linux? :p
[03:33] <james> LOL thanks Danar
[03:33] <Danar> np
[03:33] <james> but I'm more than Winblows
[03:33] <Danar> hehe
[03:33] <finlaylabs> _eXoDuS: it would appear my apt-get also has a problem. apt-get update doesnt solve it either. Cant find packages.
[03:34] <finlaylabs> _eXoDuS: did I mention veeeery messy?
[03:34] <_eXoDuS> finlaylabs: is your /etc/apt/sources.list empty?
[03:34] <Danar> finlaylabs, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:34] <_eXoDuS> Danar: he's trying to install xorg, don't need additional ones for that ;)
[03:34] <Danar> oh
[03:34] <dockane> anybody inhere with experience with vuescan (commercial closed source scan softrware, probably the best for linux) ?
[03:35] <Danar> i just saw he said apt-get can't find packages...
[03:35] <james> Danar, I get this: "mplayer-k7 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed". What does that mean?
[03:35] <ernesto_> Danar: OK... i still have the original repositories file
[03:35] <djp> cantus vs easytag?
[03:35] <cazabam> chrissturm: sorry, popped away for a second... I'll just check...
[03:35] <Danar> james, some packages get renamed. in order for the update to go through they add packages like that
[03:35] <_eXoDuS> james: that means it's no use :)
[03:36] <Danar> james, so when people update from the old package, it gets turned into the new one
[03:36] <cazabam> chrissturm: sorry, use mogrify rather than convert
[03:36] <Danar> james, so if you have it installed, you can remove it
[03:36] <james> Danar, no I didn't install it -- I'm not _that_ silly. ;)
[03:37] <james> _eXoDuS, thanks :)
[03:37] <james> Danar, so basically which is my best choice for installing mplayer?
[03:38] <chrissturm> cazabam, mogrify: missing an image filename `75x75'.
[03:38] <Danar> james, what's your architecture?
[03:38] <finlaylabs> Danar _eXoDuS: thanks for the ideas. List is empty. will try populate it (at least with the 'additional packages" from the cd!!!)
[03:39] <Danar> james, pentium? AMD?
[03:41] <cazabam> chrissturm: weird - do any of your images have spaces in the filename?
[03:41] <_eXoDuS> finlaylabs: grab the list from the guide, complete
[03:41] <jamey> Danar, I have an AMD Athlon XP-M processor.
[03:41] <chrissturm> cazabam, nope, i get this error for every filename
[03:41] <jamey> Danar, so I should choose K7, right?
[03:42] <jamey> Danar, sorry I meant K6. :)
[03:42] <Danar> i think so, yes
[03:42] <jamey> Okay thanks
[03:42] <Danar> not sure what mplayer-custom is though...
[03:42] <james__> hrm, me either
[03:43] <cazabam> chrissturm: hmm.. bear with me a sec...
[03:44] <bimzalabim> hai
[03:44] <bimzalabim> hai
[03:44] <ernesto_> Danar: can you tell me the sudo commands to reload the package info and reinstall pygtk ?
[03:44] <Danar> ernesto_, you can just use synaptic...
[03:44] <ernesto_> ok
[03:45] <Danar> ernesto_, or, 'man apt-get' ;)
[03:45] <ernesto_> ok i  will try it
[03:46] <cazabam> chrissturm: Looks like I was right the first time ... use convert with the scale option. not sure why it didn't work for you
[03:46] <cazabam> chrissturm: I just ran the original command line I sent and it seems to work fine for me
[03:50] <cazabam> chrissturm: hehe, I just noticed what I did - my sincere apologies - change 'for name in' to 'for f in' and it will work fine... sorry :(
[03:50] <jamey> I've got mplayer to play my ShowShifter files (yay) but they have major artificacting/garbled-ness. Anyone know how I remedy this?
[03:50] <cazabam> chrissturm: I need to go to sleep, I htink - deprivation is not good for the mental syntax checker!
[03:52] <dballester> hi to all
[03:53] <znh> hi to dballester
[03:55] <Danar> anyone know why i can't get the time right?
[03:55] <jamey> Danar, do you know how I can get my ShowShifter files to play correctly?
[03:55] <Danar> i have the right time zone...
[03:56] <jamey> you can sync it with ntp.ubuntuserver.org
[03:56] <Danar> jamey, dunno what ShowShifter files are...
[03:56] <mindspin> danar which one?
[03:56] <jamey> well they play properly
[03:56] <jamey> almost... just some artificating
[03:56] <Danar> mindspin, which time zone? the right one :p
[03:56] <jamey> *artifacting
[03:56] <mindspin> haha
[03:56] <mindspin> ok
[03:57] <Danar> jamey, dunno. maybe drivers, maybe corrupt download, dunno
[03:57] <trashman> hiall
[03:57] <trashman> my audio drivers doesnt work ,so they doesnt syncronize with my video.Im usin alsa.Are there other drivers that could work
[03:57] <Danar> i synchronize it with an ntp server, but it displays the wrong time always
[03:58] <mindspin> danar again, which timezone?
[03:58] <Danar> mindspin, 1 - why's it matter? 2 - toronto
[04:00] <avinoam> I have a problem- power management seems to be causing my cable internet connection to crash- i disabled acpi to no avail
[04:00] <Danar> i can synch it with nptdate even, but it's displaying the time from the wrong time zone
[04:00] <jamey> Danar, it's not a download -- I recorded it off a FreeView channel yesterday.
[04:00] <Danar> jamey, oh. could be bad sectors on your HDD
[04:00] <ubuntu_> hello everyone
[04:00] <jamey> Danar, go System -> Administration -> Time and Date
[04:00] <jamey> then click "Synchronise Now"
[04:00] <whitti> How can you actually kill x, rather than just leave it?
[04:00] <mindspin> here in germany the right timezone should be gmt plus2 but it only shows correct time if you set it to gmt -2 therefore
[04:00] <jamey> whitti, try "sudo killall [name of service] "
[04:00] <Danar> or bad codecs...
[04:00] <whitti> jamey: sure
[04:00] <u19809x> hibernate works but when I close the lid the hibernation does not trigger ? how can I set it up ?
[04:00] <jamey> or you can stop it via: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:00] <jamey> but I think you may need to sudo that command
[04:00] <whitti> sure
[04:00] <kong0> this time i got a good question:
[04:00] <Danar> could be anything
[04:01] <jamey> Danar, damn because I really wanted it to work. :/
[04:01] <Danar> try a different player? reinstall codecs? check your drivers?
[04:01] <kong0> when im trying this /etc/apt/sources.list it says im not authorised...
[04:01] <Danar> jamey, yeah, that's where i set the time zone
[04:01] <mindspin> kongO try it with sudo
[04:02] <kong0> i doid
[04:02] <kong0> that wasnt a valid command
[04:02] <Danar> kong0, what wasn't/
[04:02] <avinoam> kong0 use gedit
[04:02] <znh> Err.. my wireless conflicts with my usb-storage.. (IRQ #11), is it possible to deactivate the usb-storage?
[04:02] <mindspin> sudo "editor of yourchoice" /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <avinoam> can someone help me?
[04:03] <znh> avinoam: if you tell us the problem, we might
[04:03] <jamey> Danar, did the time synchronization work though?
[04:03] <bob2> avinoam: I really doubt that is your issue
[04:03] <ubuntu_> what's your matter?
[04:03] <avinoam>  I have a problem- power management seems to be causing my cable internet connection to crash- i disabled acpi to no avail
[04:03] <Danar> jamey, yeah, it works fine, but still displays the wrong time
[04:03] <avinoam> well then i don'[t know what
[04:03] <kong0> what do you mean gedit? gedit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:03] <mindspin> gedit is the editor
[04:04] <avinoam> i think power management, while shutting off the screen, also closes power to ethernet
[04:04] <jamey> Danar, I see. Maybe there's an offset setting somewhere?
[04:04] <znh> avinoam: mostly it would, maybe you can deactivate it in the bios
[04:04] <avinoam> but i'm open to other suggestions
[04:04] <avinoam> znh, it is fine in windows
[04:04] <kong0> ok gedit worked thx :d
[04:04] <kong0> D
[04:05] <znh> windows may not listen to the bios :)
[04:05] <kong0> but what am i to change it into....
[04:05] <avinoam> where in the bios?
[04:05] <mindspin> kong0 what do you want to do?
[04:05] <znh> avinoam: what kind of bios have you got?
[04:06] <avinoam> a06
[04:06] <znh> err..
[04:06] <avinoam> you prob. want more information than that
[04:06] <kong0> i need to fix my universe multiverse so i can install different files
[04:06] <znh> I mean.. something like "Award Bios", or "American Systems"
[04:06] <mindspin> so remove the # before deb ... universe
[04:07] <mindspin> and save the file
[04:07] <mindspin> it works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...
[04:08] <bob2> kong0: maybe you should try #ubuntu-se if you have such trouble understanding the help here
[04:08] <kong0> haha well ill just restart i t then but i still need to know exactly what to type once in it
[04:08] <avinoam> znh i think it's proprietary dell
[04:08] <kong0> bob maybe u could shut up cuz i havent seen u even trying
[04:08] <kong0> mormon :P
[04:08] <mindspin> kong0 so remove the # before deb ... universe
[04:09] <kong0> ok on all?
[04:09] <znh> avinoam: hmz.. don't know how there bios look like, here is it called "Power Management"
[04:09] <mindspin> no on universe and multiverse
[04:09] <avinoam> i'll check it out
[04:09] <avinoam> and then i'll come back
[04:10] <znh> ok :)
[04:10] <ivoks> eh
[04:10] <ivoks> anyone wants acroread7 for hoary?
[04:10] <avinoam> by the way is acpi the best power management to use?
[04:10] <mindspin> kong0 read the file and try to get how it works its very simple, you just have to read abit
[04:10] <avinoam> I've heard another one might be better?
[04:10] <ivoks> evince is better
[04:10] <Danar> i just read through a page that's supposed to tell you how to configure the time zone from the command line... didn't work
[04:10] <ivoks> but, still...
[04:11] <kong0> i removed the # on all universe multiverse lines
[04:11] <kong0> should it work now?
[04:11] <avinoam> what is evince?
[04:11] <mindspin> try it
[04:11] <Danar> kong0, did you save? :p
[04:11] <kong0> yes :D
[04:11] <ivoks> avinoam: gnome pdf viewer... very very good one
[04:11] <kcburyshaker> can someone tell me what file or files i need to get to play .avi files with totem movie player?
[04:11] <avinoam> ivoks power managment!!
[04:11] <Danar> !codecs
[04:11] <ubotu> I guess codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:12] <Danar> kcburyshaker, ^
[04:12] <kong0> i couldnt find any good readmes on google im afraid...so i had to ask you all
[04:12] <kcburyshaker> type that into terminal?
[04:12] <Danar> kcburyshaker, ?! go to the page!
[04:12] <kong0> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:12] <bob2> kong0: that file explains exactly how to edit it
[04:12] <kcburyshaker> ok
[04:12] <kong0> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:12] <mindspin> "/etc/apt/sources.list" is kinda tselfexplaining
[04:13] <kong0> bob what file did you say?
[04:13] <kcburyshaker> im a 2 day old noob   i dont know my way around linux yet
[04:13] <Thanatermesis> any liveCD developer please ?
[04:13] <bob2> Thanatermesis: very unlikely to be any here
[04:13] <Danar> kcburyshaker, yeh, but it's common sense. i gave you a site.. obviously you should visit it.
[04:13] <bob2> Thanatermesis: if you want help customising it, try asking on the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[04:13] <ThE__OnE> is there any program that makes ubuntu load a differnt wallpaper everytime it boots?
[04:14] <kcburyshaker> danar   im there now   thanks
[04:14] <Danar> kcburyshaker, er, unless you didn't realize by '^' i was pointing to the line above
[04:14] <Thanatermesis> no customizing, only like to need to ask a little question of the "init scripts"
[04:14] <bob2> Thanatermesis: then just ask here
[04:14] <kong0> ohh bob i get what file u meant however i couldnt even get in that file i used this command /etc/apt/sources.list and i got this error message: acess denied (or sumthin)
[04:14] <kcburyshaker> danar   i see it  thank you   and also thanks for making a noob feel welcome   lay off me please
[04:14] <Thanatermesis> ok
[04:15] <mindspin> it works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...
[04:15] <Danar> kcburyshaker, ? "thanks for making a noob feel welcome" seems to conflict with "lay off me please"
[04:15] <Thanatermesis> any person understand how to works the "x-refresh" autodetection in liveCD mode ? this is a work of xorg or an script from init scripts ?
[04:15] <kong0> and i have a comment to all "leets" here...perhaps if u guys wasnt so cynical u wouldn't have to explain stuff 10 times
[04:15] <zyth> Thanatermesis, your best bet is probably the ubuntu-devel mailing list for that kind of thing.
[04:16] <Thanatermesis> hummm... I need to subscribe? :/
[04:16] <zyth> kong0, man, if you'd read the documentation, it'd be easier for you.
[04:16] <mindspin> kong0 and if you read better you'll have more success
[04:16] <refuze2looze> i think there's a wiki about enabling multiverse
[04:16] <kong0> the help i needed was to get the readme
[04:16] <znh> zyth: nice word chose
[04:16] <cef> jdub: re: sounder - THANK YOU! *sigh*
[04:16] <mindspin> sudo "editor of yourchoice" /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:16] <mindspin> it works only if you started gedit with sudo gedit...
[04:17] <Danar> kong0, he said documentation, meaning man files. not the website you're reading
[04:17] <kong0> maybe i didnt exactly put that up front but i needed to get to the list and all i got was edespise
[04:17] <mindspin> kong0 read the file and try to get how it works its very simple, you just have to read abit
[04:17] <ThE__OnE> is there any program that makes ubuntu load a differnt wallpaper everytime it boots?
[04:17] <Thanatermesis> what are the devel-list mail?
[04:17] <mindspin> so remove the # before deb ... universe
[04:17] <kong0> i meant readme as in the documentetion i was supposed to read
[04:17] <kong0> i come from windoes u know
[04:17] <dabi> is there any command i can do to unmount/open cdrom from console?
[04:17] <bob2> kong0: no, you need to get a better attitude.  3 people pointed you at the wiki before you actually read it, and all the while you claimed no one was helping you
[04:17] <zyth> ThE__OnE, google for 'gnome wallpaper changer' or something?
[04:17] <bob2> Thanatermesis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:18] <Thanatermesis> thx
[04:18] <Danar> kong0, much of the stuff you'd need to read is in the man files. 'man command'. the rest you can usually find through google
[04:18] <znh> ThE__OnE: maybe you can write some application on your own for that
[04:18] <kong0> mindspin ive already done it thx for your help however i was trying to lay certain pikes to bob2 wich obviously havent got anything of em
[04:18] <Funraiser> what's the app in linux to surf through anonymous proxies?
[04:18] <zyth> or a shell script that runs at boot
[04:18] <znh> Funraiser: you can define a proxy server in firefox :)
[04:18] <Danar> Funraiser, tor w/ privoxy
[04:18] <bob2> kong0: you're not even making sense now, please just drop it
[04:18] <zyth> Funraiser, anon-proxy, in synaptic
[04:19] <Funraiser> thanks!
[04:19] <mindspin> btw. kong0 btw. whats so important in wincodecs they suck
[04:19] <zyth> mindspin, well, unless you want to watch wmv video...
[04:19] <mindspin> never needed to ;-)
[04:19] <avinoam> no good
[04:19] <avinoam> my bios doesn't have many power management options
[04:19] <Danar> mindspin, i have... :/
[04:20] <Danar> some people have no consideration :p
[04:20] <kong0> alright im dropping everything im off to see if i screwed up while i change the sources.list
[04:21] <avinoam> damn
[04:21] <znh> kong0: calm down.. it's okay.. just be calm
[04:21] <avinoam> In case you don't remember, my cable internet connection crashes after i leave the computer for a while
[04:21] <avinoam> Ubuntu hoary
[04:21] <avinoam> Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop
[04:21] <kong0> lol znh i wasnt upset
[04:21] <znh> avinoam: and did you find anything in the bios?
[04:22] <avinoam> znh no there is nothing there
[04:22] <kong0> but now i am im afraid :P it didnt work ahaha
[04:22] <avinoam> znh i checked all the pages
[04:22] <znh> kong0: what is the problem :)?
[04:22] <znh> avinoam: hmz.. I don't know were ubuntu is doing the power management..
[04:23] <kong0> couldnt find package
[04:23] <avinoam> does anyone here know where ubuntu is doing power management?
[04:23] <znh> kong0: what package?
[04:23] <kong0> im trying to install azureus
[04:23] <kong0> from ubuntuguide
[04:23] <znh> kong0: azureus hmm..
[04:23] <avinoam> kong0 you need to install java first
[04:24] <dabi> can i open cd drive with some command?
[04:24] <kong0> that shouldnt effect the package loss
[04:24] <zyth> !java
[04:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[04:24] <kong0> it still cant find anypackage
[04:24] <refuze2looze> avinoam: do you connect through vnc?
[04:24] <avinoam> no
[04:24] <znh> kong0: why don't you compile it at yourself :)?
[04:24] <znh> kong0: If it's java you don't even have to
[04:25] <kong0> ehmm im not following you here...
[04:26] <root> join #
[04:26] <avinoam> does anyone know where ubuntu does power management?
[04:26] <znh> kong0: you can manualy download azureus from there homepage (after installing Java)
[04:26] <Myrtti> bad idea to be on the net as root
[04:26] <Myrtti> Bad Idea (tm)
[04:26] <znh> :P
[04:27] <znh> woot.. He had a ip of someone with a dedicated connection such as highspeed 10mbit :D
[04:27] <znh> and then even login with root.. scary xD
[04:27] <kong0> well i still want universe multiverse (wich i believe is the fault for the problem)
[04:27] <fnoyan> hi,how can i learn supported languages by ubuntu? or from where.!!
[04:27] <zyth> avinoam, try changing your boot line to include acpi=off
[04:28] <znh> fnoyan: what do you mean? programming?
[04:28] <refuze2looze> avinoam, is it because power management is turning your HD off?
[04:28] <askinif> can't get printer to work and can't seem to find doumentation, can someone help a novice
[04:28] <zyth> avinoam, that'll default back to APM.  Might work better for you
[04:28] <mindspin> kong0 open /etc/apt/sources.list with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources/list
[04:28] <avinoam> zyth i've tried it
[04:28] <fnoyan> no,english,french...etc.and also all the libc libraries are included?
[04:28] <avinoam> refuse2looze no my HD doesn't turn off
[04:28] <zyth> avinoam, have you tried turning APM off too?
[04:29] <avinoam> zyth no
[04:29] <avinoam> and with good reason, because i need power management
[04:29] <zyth> avinoam, why?
[04:29] <veronica> I have 3 drives.....the OS on one and /home on another....i wanted to raid the /home drive eith the 3rd drive......does it have to be mountes?
[04:29] <veronica> mounted?
[04:29] <kong0> done
[04:29] <avinoam> because i'm on a laptop
[04:29] <zyth> avinoam, so am I, I don't use it.
[04:29] <kong0> mindspin done
[04:29] <zyth> I'm not afraid of booting! :)
[04:29] <fnoyan> any answer pls....
[04:29] <avinoam> zyth then how do you know how much power the battery has?
[04:29] <zyth> lol
[04:29] <veronica> software raid1
[04:30] <mindspin> kong0 read the file and remove the # before the lines deb http universe..
[04:30] <zyth> avinoam, I don't care? I runs out when it runs out? lol  My way probably won't work for you though.
[04:30] <mindspin> and multiverse
[04:30] <askinif> hardware help anyone!!
[04:30] <zyth> I use AC power 99% of the time
[04:30] <mindspin> read it and guess by yerself what to do its really self explaining
[04:31] <zyth> avinoam, one thing; have you tried some other connection besides your home one, and seen if it drops link on you too?
[04:31] <mindspin> after you edited it save the files and run sudo apt-get update
[04:31] <avinoam> zyth no
[04:31] <avinoam> zyth but windows worked fine with it
[04:31] <zyth> avinoam, I'd do that, to eliminate your connection as the cause of the issue
[04:32] <zyth> your ISP might time out your DHCP lease if you're idle or something weird.
[04:32] <askinif> printer help
[04:33] <avinoam> zyth i have a static IP
[04:33] <zyth> I'd check another connection anyways, but it's your call.
[04:33] <avinoam> i see that acpi shuts down mysql but i imagine that isn't related?
[04:34] <mindspin> on my thinkpad 600 acpi was the reason for weird effects
[04:35] <Shufla> hello :) where's guide to make splitted debs? do i _have_ to use official debian developers manual?(which is man like :()
[04:35] <kong0> do you get hacked on linux?
[04:35] <avinoam> wait i think i found the problem
[04:35] <avinoam> can i paste code here?
[04:36] <zyth> use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:36] <mindspin> no
[04:36] <jamey> kong0, no you don't get hacked unless you have open ports on your system
[04:36] <kong0> hmm i might have open ports
[04:36] <jamey> kong0, do a port scan of <IP_ADDRESS> to check what's open
[04:36] <zyth> unless you use a router
[04:36] <zyth> lol
[04:36] <jamey> kong0, Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools
[04:36] <jamey> zyth, yeah
[04:36] <kong0> ok thx
[04:37] <Shufla> kong0: or use lsof (lsof -ni4 and lsof -ni6)
[04:37] <jamey> kong0, then choose "Port Scan", type "<IP_ADDRESS>" (no quote) and click Scan
[04:37] <avinoam> OK i pasted check it out
[04:37] <zyth> what's the url avinoam ?
[04:37] <dockane> there is a noralgic point where a decision for or against linux in  has to be made at my workplace: i used to scan with an espon perfection 3200 slidefilms. (mounted and unmounted diapositeves).
[04:37] <avinoam> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/139
[04:37] <avinoam> I think that is the problem
[04:38] <zyth> avinoam, it looks like a standard part of the stuff to go into sleep-mode
[04:39] <avinoam> zyth yes it shuts off network interfaces
[04:39] <avinoam> which would include my cable modem connection
[04:39] <zyth> avinoam, so you need to figure out how to have your notebook not enter sleep mode.    No os will be 'running' for it to communicate with
[04:41] <avinoam> ah i see
[04:41] <avinoam> zyth, at least i know that that is definitely my problem
[04:41] <dockane> now i am finding myself with iscan, vuescan and xsane here: none of this scanning tools is able to detect the format of diapositives in transparency mode (with the 4 dia mask thats not a real problem i can crop manually but with the stripe mask its awfull to cut each dia and scan) ... thats pretty ugly ? anybody out there with an idea ?
[04:41] <mindspin> SirMud qtparted?
[04:42] <zyth> avinoam, you may wind up needing to compile a custom kernel... :/
[04:42] <mindspin> dockane that sounds very special, try the newsgroup
[04:42] <SirMud> is that installed with the base system or do i need to get it?
[04:42] <zyth> avinoam, and being selective about which acpi functions you allow
[04:42] <avinoam> zyth, i have no freaking idea how to do that
[04:42] <Chacal> hey
[04:42] <zyth> avinoam, but first, google for your notebook model and linux acpi and see if anyone else has been through this yet
[04:43] <dockane> mindspin, i will
[04:43] <Chacal> quick question: where is located the login splash image?
[04:43] <avinoam> zyth i've seen people claim that suspend and hibernate do not work
[04:43] <mindspin> SirMud cfdisk from shell?
[04:44] <zyth> avinoam, then I'd guess they probably don't.  You are probably better off with acpi=off and just using APM
[04:44] <avinoam> zyth i've tried that
[04:44] <mindspin> yep
[04:44] <mindspin> that would be my guess too
[04:45] <Chacal> anyone?
[04:45] <avinoam> zyth how to shut off APM as well?
[04:45] <avinoam> APM=off?
[04:45] <^thehatsrule^> or noapm?
[04:45] <kong0> what does IPP ?
[04:46] <mindspin> internet printing protocol
[04:46] <kong0> ok so for the printer
[04:46] <thoreauputic> kong0: network printing
[04:46] <avinoam> zyth ??
[04:46] <kong0> aight thx
[04:47] <nightswim> does someone know how I can tell the X.org on ubuntu to use the windows key as a modifier like alt?
[04:47] <Chacal> the login background image, where is it?
[04:47] <jamey> thoreauputic: what type of network printing is IPP for?
[04:47] <nightswim> it's something in /etc/X11/xkbd, but I forgot
[04:47] <thoreauputic> kong0: scanning <IP_ADDRESS> is misleading if you have a network
[04:47] <jamey> nightswim: try keyboard or keyboard shortcuts in the system menu
[04:47] <mindspin> ;-)
[04:47] <jamey> thoereauputic: why's that?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> jamey: IPP can be used on a LAN as well
[04:47] <jamey> (scanning <IP_ADDRESS> misleading)
[04:47] <sly> back =D
[04:47] <zyth> avinoam, yeah apm=off acpi=off in your kernel bootline
[04:48] <jamey> thoreauputic, but I mean is it used just for Linux printing or also for Samba?
[04:48] <avinoam> zyth i'll make another entry in grub for travel mode which allows acpi
[04:48] <jamey> and is it accessible outside of the LAN?
[04:48] <kong0> thorepatic: how so?
[04:48] <avinoam> zyth when i don't need cable modem
[04:48] <thoreauputic> jamey: because if you run NFS, IPP etc on your LAN the scan will show those ports open
[04:48] <nightswim> jamey: no, if I go there it doesnt interpret that key as a modifier
[04:48] <nightswim> but as a normal key
[04:48] <jamey> hmm sorry
[04:48] <zyth> avinoam, *nod*
[04:48] <jamey> thoreauputic, but it is accessible outside of the LAN?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> you need someone to nmap you from th enet
[04:49] <jamey> thoreauputic, okay I see... nmap always seems slooow to me
[04:49] <thoreauputic> jamey: not if the interface is different and your iptables are right
[04:49] <kong0> well im off cyall
[04:49] <mindspin> nessus shows a little more than nmap
[04:50] <jamey> thoreauputic, can I PM you?
[04:50] <skywater> hello. is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows p2p network?