[17:58] <JontheEchidna> it speeds things up
[17:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh but i dosent use anything almost?!
[17:58] <JontheEchidna> you can check to see which apps are using it all
[17:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not even Adobe Photoshop using that much converting RAW 2 JPG in VISTA!
[17:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Suspect??
[17:59] <binMonkey> hi.  i enabled the restricted ati drivers and now when i shutdown my system freezes and shutsdown after about 2minutes.
[17:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is someone using my computer without my knowlegde?
[17:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> I really dont understand
[18:00] <genii> Sp0tKubuntu: Your actual system usage is the 0.54 indicated. 1.33Gb is being used for cached stuff
[18:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Xorg using 177Mb as the top program of used memory
[18:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahhh
[18:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i need more RAM?
[18:00] <JontheEchidna> no
[18:00] <genii> Sp0tKubuntu: no
[18:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> I had some errors running Memtest, could that have any effect?
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> it just uses what you have left over as cache to speed up programs
[18:01] <JontheEchidna> the cache will only take the memory that you aren't using
[18:01] <genii> Sp0tKubuntu: Yes. Errors in memtest mean you have some bad/failing ram in your system
[18:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> U can see the screen here: http://peecee.dk/upload/view/152266
[18:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Someone told me it was correctable after he saw the picture
[18:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> But how?
[18:02] <alarm_> hello, i got a problem with the picture frame widget on kde4.2 . i added the widget a few days ago, and now although i do remove it, every time i restart or log in , the widget appears again and again
[18:02] <alarm_> no matter if i remove it, why is that
[18:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> What is making my RAM making Err bits?
[18:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Ahh, now i see! Then i actually use 0.54Gb? Cache use 1.34Gb? Correct?
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> Sp0tKubuntu: correct. If any of your applications need RAM, cache will start using less so that the application can have more
[18:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Would have any effect when i give it 2 x 2 Gb RAM insted of? Better system power?
[18:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> performance*
[18:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Ok, now i see! Thats smart! :-) Reserved
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> there are applications that you can install such as preload that store your most used applications in ram so that startup times are quicker
[18:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Explain? Im not so much into it
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> ok, so you know how you have a hard drive and RAM correct?
[18:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Something i can get use of? Find usefull u think?
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> hard drives can store much more info than ram, but they are also slower
[18:06] <cuznt> how come access is denied to dvd?
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> applications typically get loaded from the hard drive
[18:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: yeah that i now
[18:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> know*
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> applications like preload store your most used applications in ram so that they can be started faster
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> since loading from RAM is faster than loading from the hard drive
[18:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Then you recommend me "Preload" ?
[18:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: A program for Kubuntu i can find in packetmanager, right?
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> right
[18:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Thanks alot! :-) Can you tell me how to correct Err bits in my RAM? Or dosent it have any effect? And why are there errors??
[18:09] <JontheEchidna> That usually means that at least a little bit of the RAM is bad. I wouldn't worry unless funky things start happening to your computer
[18:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: It have 221 err bits, correctable, after what i understand
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> I don't know much about ram errors
[18:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Did you see my screenshot before, with the Memtest?
[18:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> JontheEchidna: Ok, thanks anyways! :-)
[18:10] <rjb> heck I'd worry, funky things might be like corrupted data on disk, say
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> :)
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> hmm, then listen to rjb, he obviously knows more about this stuff than me
[18:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: Im not comfortable with knowing it eigther
[18:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-D
[18:11] <rjb> is that reported by memtest?
[18:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: Witch?
[18:11] <rjb> the errors
[18:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: See screenshot from Memtest86 v2.01 http://peecee.dk/upload/view/152266
[18:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: And yes, it is
[18:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: :-(
[18:12] <CyD_work> is there anything I can do to make dolphin remember addresses I type, or am I just missing something?
[18:12] <rjb> sorry i can't help you recognize which chip to replace on the basis of memtest
[18:13] <rjb> but bad RAM I'd replace ASAP
[18:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: Do you have to replace chips?!
[18:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: i get new tomorrow :-)
[18:13] <CyD_work> Sp0tKubuntu: best to test each stick of RAM individually if you only want to replace the bad one
[18:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> rjb: But would like to know if it could be fixed, for selling
[18:13] <CyD_work> Sp0tKubuntu: or just purchase a new pair, so cheap :)
[18:14] <rjb> well if the're bad, using them is a disaster waiting to happen
[18:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> i have! :-)
[18:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> 2 x 2 Gb G.Skill Paired
[18:14] <rjb> you will lose data sooner or later
[18:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> 379 danish krones
[18:14] <mindslant> sorry, I've got a simple question.  What program in Kubuntu do I use for python programming?
[18:14] <CyD_work> mindslant: kate, vim, nano,
[18:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thans for the help guys! The dog is looking so sad! hav to walk him! :-) BBL
[18:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thanks*!
[18:15] <JontheEchidna> mindslant: any text editor will do
[18:16] <mindslant> ok, gotcha.
[18:17] <asraniel> hi. emergency. when knetworkmanager sees no network device. whats the problem? hal not started?
[18:18] <maco> in system settings, there's the option to set hte initial desktop for an app based on title. that's all fine and dandy, except when i launch irssi in a terminal, the title is "Terminator" for about a second before it changes to "irssi - Terminator" and i dont want it to put *all* my terminals on that desktop. any way to kwin which window to match in that case?
[18:20] <kaddi> evening :)
[18:20] <alarm> could please someone tell me why the picture frame widget appears every time i restart/login-out from kde4.2 , although i removed it many times from my desktop ?
[18:20] <maco> alarm: check your autostart?
[18:20] <alarm> how ?
[18:20] <maco> in system settings' advanced tab there's an autostart option
[18:20] <gmathews> Hi how do i change the colour of my panel..It is still black and it doesn't match my KDE colour scheme
[18:21] <alarm> only thing running is the gtk-engine
[18:23] <maco> gmathews: not sure it's possible yet...
[18:23] <tgillespie_> hi all, quick question. Is there a reason why kubuntu uses phonon-xine rather than phonon-gstreamer? Wouldn't it make more sense to do the same as ubuntu? Then it's likely to recieve more attention?
[18:24] <maco> tgillespie_: maybe because xine works better?
[18:24] <inanimate> That's because GStreamer sucks.
[18:24] <maco> i lways remove totem-gstreamer on ubuntu
[18:24] <maco> it cant even play DVDs right
[18:24] <nauxilux> hi
[18:25] <nauxilux> can somebody help me with my xorg.conf ?
[18:25] <nauxilux> i've installed kubuntu 8.10
[18:25] <tgillespie_> maco then why does ubuntu use it if it sucks so bad? i'm not pushing one or the other, just saying shouldn't they both use the same?
[18:25] <KDesk> Ah, now I know the problem, it was the script for amarok 1.4 soundkonverter, it can't handle some characters like á é and sure ö ä ü.
[18:25] <nauxilux> and would like to run a resolution 1440x900 at 75
[18:25] <nauxilux> kubuntu 8.10 configures it automatically to 1440x900 with 60 but i would need 75
[18:27] <mikele> cciao
[18:27] <maco> tgillespie_: because upstream gnome likes gstreamer for some unfathomable reason. or maybe because gstreamer's got some deal with fluendo (?) about certain codecs
[18:27] <maco> nauxilux: you have an xorg.conf?
[18:27] <nauxilux> yep
[18:27] <nauxilux> in /etc/X11
[18:28] <nauxilux> ist configured automatically
[18:28] <Tm_T> maco: something to do with licences and the origin of these projects I believe
[18:28] <maco> huh. i didnt think 8.10 had an xorg.conf by default
[18:28] <nauxilux> by default it has one,
[18:28] <nauxilux> but it seems to have no change effects...
[18:28] <maco> i installed 8.10 and upgraded to 9.04. mine's an empty file.
[18:28] <nauxilux> oke,
[18:29] <maco> nauxilux: might need to use xrandr
[18:29] <nauxilux> then in 9.04 perhaps there is no one
[18:29] <nauxilux> xrandr
[18:29] <nauxilux> whats that
[18:29] <maco> command line utility for configuring X
[18:29] <maco> its what the little screen resolution tool uses on the backend
[18:29] <nauxilux> oke,
[18:29] <nauxilux> thanks maco
[18:30] <nauxilux> i will try now
[18:30] <alarm> okie... it seems its not such a good question :)
[18:30] <maco> nauxilux: chck the manpage because i dont know how to do it
[18:30] <maco> alarm: not in your autostart then?
[18:31] <alarm> nop, just gtk-engine there
[18:31] <maco> bah
[18:31] <nauxilux> oke
[18:31] <nauxilux> thanks
[18:31] <alarm> i dont know, its not that my computer is crashing and restores all the apps that were running. i shut it down normaly . but this widget insist of running every time
[18:33] <alarm> i'll reboot and check
[18:36] <mlino> hi
[18:36] <mlino> hi?
[18:36] <mlino> can anyone help me?
[18:36] <kaddi> !ask
[18:37] <KDesk> Is possilbe to auto mount the devices that are conected to the computer in KDE 4.2? I have used a mod of the Device Notifier plasmoid in KDE 4.1 that has automounted the devices.
[18:37] <maco> KDesk: the device notifier automounted my mp3 player in 4.2
[18:37] <mlino> i following the tutorial in kubuntu website to install kde 4.2 but when i need to put de gpg command don't take the correct action
[18:38] <Pici> mlino: What happens instead?
[18:38] <asraniel> what could be the problem if knetworkmanager does not see any network devices?
[18:38] <maco> asraniel: do they show in lshal?
[18:39] <KDesk> maco: hmmm, that is straing, are you sure you are using the default plasmoid? Because in 4.1 and 4.2 by default I think that was not the behaivor. You have noting changed so that it works so?
[18:39] <maco> if the device notifier stops showing an eject icon next to the device, does that mean it's ejected?
[18:39] <mlino> it says to me thant don't take changes effect
[18:39] <maco> KDesk: havent touched that thing. just started using kde on friday
[18:39] <maco> i doubt gnome's automount thing interfering, but i suppose it's possible
[18:39] <maco> then again...are you on jaunty or intrepid?
[18:40] <Pici> mlino: The gpg command is all on one line, did you enter it all on one line?
[18:40] <mlino> yes
[18:40] <maco> KDesk: jaunty or intrepid?
[18:40] <KDesk> maco, ok, thanks, I will google a bit more.
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> if the eject button does not show up on mouseover, then the device isn't mounted
[18:41] <Pici> mlino: And then what happens if you check for updates?
[18:41] <mlino> it say gpg: key  xxxxx: "launchpad ppa for kubuntu experimental without changes
[18:41] <maco> KDesk: im on jaunty
[18:41] <alarm> nah, widget insist of appearing...
[18:41] <mlino> error gpg if update
[18:41] <alarm> dont know where else i could look (which file) to remove it so that it wont start again
[18:42] <Guest65216> hi all, i am trying to install kubuntu 8.04.1 from an usb stick, so i have the ubuntu iso on the stick, syslinux installed (it boots ok) and initrd.gz and vmlinuz from here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/    What happends is after finding the iso the installer complains about some kernel version mismatch and prompts if i really want to continue, any ideas?
[18:42] <KDesk> maco: ohh, I am in intrepid with 4.2 from the ppa repo. Maybe that is.
[18:42] <mlino> can't veryfy No_PUBLI
[18:42] <Pici> mlino: Can you pastebin the exact errors and what happens when you enter that GPG command?
[18:42] <Pici> !pastebin
[18:43] <asraniel> maco: i have to check. it's my girlfriends computer, and i can only join her over the phone right now
[18:43] <mlino> i cant i have ubuntu in vmware
[18:45] <mlino> when i apply the gpg key command they say that don't apply any changes, and when i apt-get upddate they say that error GPG: http://ppa.... The firms can't verify cause my public key is-t avaiable
[18:46] <penela> Can someone help me get my laptop out of low graphics mode?  I tried installing ATI display drivers.
[18:46] <cuznt> my access is denied to dvd?
[18:46] <mlino> pici you recognise the error?
[18:47] <Lynx-O> !windows
[18:47] <Lynx-O> !ext3
[18:48] <Guest65216> so can one install kubuntu 8.04 from an usb ?
[18:48] <mlino> when i apply the gpg key command they say that don't apply any changes, and when i apt-get upddate they say that error GPG: http://ppa.... The firms can't verify cause my public key is-t avaiable
[18:48] <Lynx-O> no
[18:48] <Lynx-O> usb isn't bootable
[18:49] <Guest65216> Lynx-O, sure it is, with syslinux
[18:49] <mlino> Pici undestand my error?
[18:50] <Guest65216> i guess vmlinuz and initrd.gz from hardy hd-media are broken, since it can't load the kernel modules, (btw the iso is alternate-cd)
[18:51] <mlino> has anyone have my same problem duting instalation kde 4.2?
[18:51] <mlino> when i apply the gpg key command they say that don't apply any changes, and when i apt-get upddate they say that error GPG: http://ppa.... The firms can't verify cause my public key is-t avaiable
[18:55] <alarm> mlino,  in the instructions of how installing kde 4.2 also instructions are given about the public key
[18:55] <cuznt> !dvd
[18:56] <mlino> alarm yes but the gpg command that is given in the web doen't validete me
[18:58] <alarm> can you give me the website with the instructions ?
[18:59] <mlino> www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[18:59] <alarm> and you write all this in a single line? gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
[18:59] <alarm> and what is the message you get ?
[19:01] <mlino> i try to traduc
[19:01] <mlino> cause i'm spanish
[19:01] <maco> asraniel: knetworkmanager should show any that are listed in lshal and not manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces, i *think*
[19:01] <Guest3095> hey, i'm also spanish
[19:01] <Guest3095> XD
[19:01] <alarm> traduc means ? :P
[19:01] <Guest3095> traduct?
[19:01] <mlino> gpg: [stdout] write error: broken tuberia
[19:02] <mlino> gpg: iobuf_flush failed on close: write error
[19:02] <mlino> yes alarm :P
[19:02] <alarm> my first question are you writing all this in a single line or in two lines as is seen on the webpage
[19:02] <mlino> single
[19:03] <mlino> all in one line
[19:03] <alarm> tuberia ? :)
[19:03] <alarm> whats that
[19:03] <Guest3095> i think it's a pipe
[19:03] <Guest3095> but i'm not sure
[19:03] <Guest3095> at least it's the literal traduction
[19:03] <mlino> how yopu say this sing |
[19:03] <alarm> oh ok , makes sense
[19:03] <mlino> yes pipe
[19:03] <Guest3095> ;-)
[19:04] <Guest3095> espero que te este ayudando, mlino
[19:04] <alarm> you add alos the '-' in the end ?
[19:04] <mlino> yo tmb pk no consigo instalar kde 4.2
[19:04] <mlino> yes alarm
[19:04] <mlino> like in the web :P
[19:05] <Guest3095> buf, en kubuntu no pude instalarlo, lo dejé por imposible...
[19:05] <mlino> oooo
[19:05] <mlino> alarm!!!!
[19:05] <mlino> i find the problem think
[19:05] <alarm> which is ?
[19:05] <mlino> i don't put an space between add and the pipe
[19:05] <mlino> it's correct?
[19:06] <alarm> there is a space
[19:06] <alarm> just copy paste it
[19:06] <alarm> dont write it
[19:06] <mlino> i'm using vmware
[19:06] <mlino> and allways write sorry
[19:06] <mlino> :P
[19:07] <mlino> now only need to update and install kubuntu in't it?
[19:08] <alarm> i dont know what u try to do :P
[19:08] <alarm> if you updated yes
[19:08] <mlino> now
[19:08] <alarm> now do a dist-upgrage
[19:08] <mlino> install
[19:08] <mlino> i have gnome only
[19:09] <Guest3095> try sudo aptitude install kde4
[19:09] <Kransac> hey all
[19:09] <mlino> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:09] <Guest3095> oh ok
[19:09] <alarm> oh sorry didnt know u got only gnome :P
[19:09] <Guest3095> which version of ubuntu do you have?
[19:09] <Kransac> do you have any idea how to "manual duplex print" a pdf file? It seems like it's not possible with Okular
[19:09] <mlino> 8.1
[19:09] <mlino> the last one
[19:10] <Guest3095> i tried to install kde 4.2 on hardy and intrepid and couldn't do it
[19:10] <mlino> me too
[19:10] <Guest3095> the only thing i could do was 4.1 on intrepid (and it was really ugly)
[19:10] <nauxilux> hello its me again
[19:10] <mlino> only install kde 4.1
[19:10] <nauxilux> i tried grandr
[19:10] <Kransac> Kde 4.2 work here with intreprid
[19:10] <mlino> kransac
[19:11] <mlino> wick package i need to install
[19:11] <mlino> kubuntu-desktop?
[19:11] <mlino> but i haven't got anything of kde only gnome
[19:11] <nauxilux> i cant change my resolution from 1440x900@60 to 1440x900@75
[19:11] <nauxilux> i tried grandr, kxgenerator
[19:12] <nauxilux> and manual editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:12] <Kransac> mlino: have you tried step by step what written on the kde home page?
[19:13] <mlino> yes yes
[19:13] <mlino> but
[19:13] <mlino> if i don.t have anyting of kde
[19:13] <mlino> only need to install kubuntu-desktop?
[19:13] <mlino> it's all?
[19:14] <alarm> kubuntu-desktop would do
[19:14] <nauxilux> ?
[19:14] <mlino> ok
[19:14] <mlino> thanks a lot to all
[19:15] <mlino> i love you :)
[19:15] <alarm> and on display manager choose kdm instead of gdm
[19:15] <mlino> okis
[19:15] <alarm> anyone can tell me how to deactivate my widget that starts on on every reboot no matter if i remove it every single time ? :)
[19:16] <nauxilux> can anyone tell me how to change my resolution from 1440x900 @ 60 to
[19:16] <nauxilux> 1440x900 @ 75
[19:17] <bitmonster> hi, i run constantly into trouble when i try to boot kubuntu, i.e. my external esata hdd is not detected immediately. i get weird exceptions such as "ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=-19)", "ata4: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x50000 actcom 0xe frozen" and "sata_sil: cache line size not set. driver may not function"
[19:17] <nauxilux> how to change my monitor
[19:17] <bitmonster> what can i do?
[19:18] <nauxilux> how can i change my default monitor
[19:18] <alarm> nauxilux, you unplug it , and put the new one
[19:18] <alarm> :P
[19:18] <alarm> kidding
[19:18] <nauxilux> @alarm
[19:18] <nauxilux> i mean -> the "default monitor" setting
[19:18] <alarm> nvidia,ati ?
[19:18] <nauxilux> ati
[19:18] <alarm> ok , bad start :P
[19:19] <alarm> i am not familiar with ati drivers
[19:19] <alarm> did you add a line on xorg.conf manualy to try ?
[19:19] <nauxilux> i only would need a resolution
[19:19] <nauxilux> 1440x900 @ 75
[19:19] <nauxilux> not at 60
[19:19] <nauxilux> which line?
[19:19] <nauxilux> modeline
[19:19] <nauxilux> i tried but it was false
[19:21] <snarkster> why is it that plasmas that i have closed keep coming back
[19:21] <alarm> snarkster, thats what i also am wondering and ask the last two days
[19:22] <alarm> i got a damn picture frame and that shit appears on every log in or reboot. cant find on which file that shit is written to erase it
[19:22] <snarkster> i think its the plasma.rc file but i dont wanna go mucking about just yet
[19:23] <alarm> back it up
[19:23] <Kovert> Does the desktop effects button (compiz) in intrepid with KDE 4.2 running work? or is it that rooted in KDE 4.1
[19:24] <alarm> btw, why dont i find the plasma.rc file snarkster  ? :)
[19:25] <snarkster> ah might be a dev file.. <shrug>
[19:26] <W8TAH> hi folks - -ive done somethign some how - -i dont know what -- but konqueror has no control buttons -- like maximize, minimize and close -- i know i should look it up, but im in the middle of a server outage and need help -- - can someeon tell me how to get it back please
[19:26] <W8TAH> all my other programs ahve them
[19:27] <W8TAH> im on kubuntu ibex with the kde 4.2 latest releases
[19:28] <snarkster> hmm W8TAH have you gone fullscreen?
[19:28] <W8TAH> ya - that was it - thanks
[19:28] <W8TAH> sorry for the dumb one
[19:28] <snarkster> no question is dumb
[19:29] <Kovert> so now he has to answer 4 more users questions right ? :-)
[19:29] <Kovert> any one know what the state of compiz is with kde 4.2 and Intrepid?
[19:30] <snarkster> why do you need compiz??
[19:30] <Kovert> why do I need a computer?
[19:30] <snarkster> kwin has most of the same functions
[19:30] <Kovert> becase it's there
[19:30] <Kovert> !kwin
[19:30] <Kovert> !info kwin
[19:30] <Kovert> miss the cubes
[19:31] <snarkster> kwin is kde4.2 has cube
[19:31] <snarkster> um is in
[19:31] <Kovert> guess just not werkin for me
[19:31] <snarkster> crap!!! Kwin has cubes in kde4.2
[19:32] <k4_> kl1ck on the cube
[19:33] <snarkster> system-settings>desktop>enable all effects>all effects>under window management you ll find the cube
[19:33] <snarkster> configure it how you like
[19:34] <Kovert> i have it now
[19:34] <snarkster> :)
[19:34] <snarkster> now do you still need compiz?
[19:34] <Kovert> can i drag between desktops?
[19:34] <snarkster> yes
[19:34] <snarkster> should be able to
[19:34] <Kovert> that will answer your question
[19:34] <Kovert> i guess the cylinders and spheres are yet to come
[19:34] <snarkster> should the same.
[19:35] <snarkster> i dont know I dont use effects. messes with my games
[19:36] <Kovert> any good games?
[19:36] <utdmr> hey, is there a full-screen mode in Kate?
[19:39] <blahjake> utdmr: yes, Settings -> Full Screen Mode (Ctrl+Shift+F)
[19:39] <snarkster> i play windows games
[19:39] <snarkster> Nexus, D2, C&C, star craft
[19:39] <dewman> There is lots of games. =)
[19:39] <blahjake> utdmr: the kde4 version is Window -> Full Screen Mode (Ctrl+Shift+F)
[19:39] <dewman> Tuxracer rules!
[19:40] <snarkster> tah it does
[19:40] <snarkster> yah even
[19:40] <snarkster> frozenbubble
[19:40] <snarkster> Alien Arena
[19:40] <zmitya> hi all
[19:40] <snarkster> assaultcube
[19:41] <utdmr> armagetronad:)
[19:42] <siekacz> mhm... udma is active but copying files is only 3-5 MB/s...
[19:43] <alarm> how can i make my mounted drives just read only ? on previews kubuntu version i could just right click on the hdd and check/uncheck the read only box. in kubuntu 8.1 with kde4.2 ?
[19:44] <zmitya> I have a kubuntu intrepid with kde 4.2 from ppa.launchpad.net
[19:44] <william> hi
[19:45] <zmitya> when I lock the session I always unable to login back, it says unlick failed...
[19:45] <zmitya> is it my problem only ?
[19:45] <Guest40351> I've been having flash crash consistently when playing videos
[19:45] <Guest40351> anyone else having simliar problem?
[19:45] <Guest40351> I am using firefox
[19:45] <snarkster> Guest40351: what flash are you using
[19:46] <EagleScreen> and what arch?
[19:47] <Guest40351> x86 32bit
[19:47] <Guest40351> firefox 3.05
[19:47] <maco> zmitya: i have a problem in gnome with that...it just says "checking..." but doesnt unlock
[19:48] <snarkster> Guest40351: but what flash are u using? non free adobe flash or gnash
[19:48] <Guest40351> flashpluign-nonfree
[19:49] <Guest40351> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:49] <alarm> Guest40351, indeed all version of flash (non free) that i used crash as well
[19:49] <maco> i use swfdec
[19:49] <alarm> they just show a gray screen and nothing else sometimes
[19:49] <alarm> and the page has to be refreshed
[19:49] <maco> works well enough for youtube, and they have a no-crashes release policy
[19:49] <Guest40351> is this a recent bug introduced in last update or is there a fix
[19:50] <snarkster> i just install 8.04.1 on a laptop that was running so slow as to take 5 min to bring up a explorer window. damn now it fast..
[19:50] <zmitya> maco: same here in kde ;(
[19:51] <alarm> yeap , i've heard that from several people . that sometimes flash crash
[19:51] <alarm> but it was the same thing on version 8, 9 and also 10
[19:51] <alarm> i dont know what happens with free versions of flash
[19:52] <maco> free flash (swfdec) works pretty well
[19:52] <maco> doesnt do site done totally in flash, but those arent really worth visiting
[19:55] <snarkster> is there a kde UI for lvm?
[19:55] <raindog> ksmserver always has a zombie process.  What's up with that?  (KDE 4.2)
[20:12] <KDesk> Is possible to install amarok 1.4 and 2 at the same time?
[20:13] <snarkster> hmm finding amarok 2 is not an easy task
[20:13] <snarkster> but i dont think so
[20:13] <snarkster> would be nice to have some visualizations for amarok 2
[20:14] <KDesk> snarkster: I like amarok 1.4 to organize the tags, I find amarok 2 good if all the music is organized.
[20:15] <snarkster> i like amarok 2 for the shoutcast stations
[20:15] <snarkster> love paralx radio
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm.. Is there something wrong with my RAM? I have 2Gb and used to show 2Gb, but now i only shows 1.5Gb, and my memory use is between 4.8Mb and 769Mb
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> That indicates critical RAM errors?
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 8/105GB, RAM: 1013/2015MB, 130 proc's, 4.40h up
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 8/105GB, RAM: 1015/2015MB, 130 proc's, 4.40h up
[20:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 8/105GB, RAM: 1015/2015MB, 129 proc's, 4.40h up
[20:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sorry for spam, was trying to show what i meant
[20:16] <snarkster> 3 times??
[20:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Because it change
[20:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> Like i said, i just standing and changing from 4.8Mb ram usage to 700Mb
[20:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> that was a test to see if my script will show the error here, but here it says 1015Mb ram usage! SORRY!
[20:17] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: Linux (the kernel) doesn't shows you the ram  that apps use, it ues the ram speed up the system
[20:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Again?
[20:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Didnt understand
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> CPU use : - 1,546.595%?!?!?!
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats suspect
[20:19] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: (english isn't my nativ language..) The kernel manages the RAM memory in an apropied way, not like windows for example. It uese the ram that apps need and it uses the ram for cache.
[20:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: that i know, but i dont understand why it make this errors now? I get 221 correctable errors in Memtest on my RAM
[20:20] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: what are you using to read those values?
[20:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> System monitor, used to work fine
[20:21] <KDesk> ah, then of course the ram is bad... sorry
[20:21] <snarkster> could be
[20:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats why i get those errors then?
[20:21] <snarkster> laptop??
[20:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> yes
[20:21] <snarkster> heat problem or transporting it around can do that
[20:21] <KDesk> maybe bad ram from factory
[20:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> MSI PR200
[20:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> yeah, sounds like bad ram, i have them suspectet
[20:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> But thanks alot! hope my new RAM will be here soon
[20:22] <snarkster> go buy new and your problem will go away.
[20:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> I rebooted yesterday, and i got a "panic" file missing or corrupt, maybe because of my defected RAM?
[20:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im afraid if i reboot now, then if messes up the system! :-(
[20:25] <roger_> c'è quaqlcuna che parla l'italiano?
[20:25] <Pici> !it | roger_
[20:26] <roger_> ciao a tutti
[20:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> BRB, i hope!
[20:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nice! Back again! It was my "System Monitor" making an error showing wrong numbers, now its normal again! But i replace RAM anyways
[20:29] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: did you restart?
[20:30] <KDesk> And did you replaced you ram?
[20:30] <mediadragon> Is there a way to make a program load in a specific workspace?
[20:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Nope, only the "System Montior"
[20:31] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: you can change the vm.swappiness value to 100 to use more swap than ram, and when you get you new ram change that back to the default value
[20:31] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Think that was a error showing the correct info! Restartet the program, and it shows the "normal" values
[20:32] <quassel76> hi
[20:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: I will get em soon, so thats ok! I have not dl so much, so i just make reinstall if the RAM messes the system up before i get the new RAM in
[20:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> That will NOT, i repeat, NOT take my breath away about trying linux! :-)
[20:33] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: that is the most important! :)
[20:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> I like linux ALOT! :-) So many nice stuff, easy to use for all, and so on! Thats just PERFECT! :-D
[20:34] <marcel> how can i print a file to the printer from shell: bash ?
[20:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats right! I try as much as possible to turn windows users over on linux! :-)
[20:34] <maco> marcel: what kind of file?
[20:34] <marcel> text file
[20:34] <marcel> a source file
[20:35] <maco> lpr
[20:35] <marcel> i try lp <filename> but fails
[20:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk:  Well, thanks alot for all of your help! :-)
[20:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Think i will play some L4D! :-)
[20:35] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: you are wellcome :)
[20:36] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu:  What is L4D?
[20:36] <KRF> KDesk, left 4 dead (half life with zombies)
[20:37] <cbwcjw2> KDesk: Left 4 Dead, a video game released by Valve Software under the Steam Platform :)
[20:37] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: An extreme cool game! Killing zombies in large numbers, REALLY large! Really funny! :-D
[20:38] <KDesk> KRF:  cbwcjw2 Sp0tKubuntu aah, greate, I will take a look  in the weekend.
[20:38] <KDesk> Or better now...
[20:38] <KDesk> hehe
[20:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: I have tryed to get it all week, thay are hard to find! :-) But good luck! There is also a DEMO out, dont know ecxactly where
[20:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Its really violence! There are 50 zombies all over ALL time :-D
[20:40] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: hehe, I will then take a look to the demo, sound good.
[20:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: At least! Whops! OFF-TOPIC! Sorry!
[20:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Doom 3 1000 x more scary! :-D
[20:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Really, i cant play so long, i get to screwed up, i cant relaxx :-D
[20:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk: Shaking allover! :-D
[20:41] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: ah, yea, I have played doom 3 with frends, it is a good game, and I have read that id soft was going to open the engine of doom3 when doom4 or 5 arrives
[20:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk:  Sounds nice! Really nice! But when Q4 came, there was no Quake, only Doom3 engine
[20:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDesk:  Liked the Q3 motor
[20:43] <KDesk> Sp0tKubuntu: I think tremulous uses a mod of Q3, do you know tremulous?
[20:46] <v3trae> Afternoon guys!
[20:46] <pasxalis> hello
[20:46] <pasxalis> anybody here?
[20:47] <v3trae> pasxalis: aye.
[20:47] <pasxalis> what?
[20:47] <v3trae> pasxalis: you asked if anyone is here. i'm here.
[20:47] <pasxalis> a ok
[20:47] <v3trae> pasxalis: along with 352 other people
[20:47] <pasxalis> well
[20:48] <pasxalis> hehehe
[20:48] <pasxalis> does kmix works to your pc's?
[20:49] <v3trae> pasxalis: working on mine
[20:49] <pasxalis> since the upgrade I don't have external sound
[20:49] <v3trae> pasxalis: honestly don't know enough about the k sound system to help you there man.
[20:49] <pasxalis> When I talk to the microphone I hear my own voice but I can't hear any music
[20:50] <pasxalis> anybody else?
[20:50] <v3trae> pasxalis: did you check your volumes in alsamixer?
[20:50] <pasxalis> where is alsamixer?
[20:51] <pasxalis> are you sure I have that?
[20:51] <v3trae> pasxalis: you should have it @_@ pretty sure you need it for alsa to run.
[20:52] <pasxalis> ok then
[20:52] <pasxalis> where can I find it?
[20:52] <v3trae> pasxalis: it comes with the alsa sound system. If you don't have it i'd say your alsa is messed up, but i don't know enough about it to know for sure
[20:52] <maco> pasxalis: type it into your terminal
[20:52] <maco> i think pasxalis is under the impression its a GUI app that will appear in the menu
[20:53] <v3trae> pasxalis: actually, i don't have it either, i wonder if my sound is working =P
[20:53] <_dfaure> how does one install both libsvn-dev and librdf0-dev on kubuntu intrepid? they seem mutually exclusive (svn wants db4.6, rdf wants db4.7)
[20:53] <pasxalis> just alsamixer?
[20:53] <v3trae> pasxalis: aye alsamixer is a terminal application
[20:56] <v3trae> i'm having a problem with mounting an ntfs drive, i can't even see it. So to try to find it i used fdisk /dev/sda-b-c-d and /dev/hda-b-c-d and all of which came back device not found. Does kubuntu handle this differently?
[20:56] <maco> sudo fdisk -l
[20:56] <maco> that doesnt tell you anything?
[20:57] <marcel> maco: what is the command to print ? lpr <filename> ?
[20:57] <maco> er...
[20:57] <maco> there are options you can put in there
[20:57] <maco> probably need to specify a printer
[20:58] <marcel> i 'm not specify the printer
[20:58] <marcel> i don't know how...
[20:58] <pasxalis> ok guys
[20:58] <marcel> from KDE i can print with print options , but from shell i don't know the comand
[20:58] <pasxalis> I have alsamixer
[20:59] <pasxalis> but it sees only my onbaoard card
[20:59] <v3trae> maco: hmm, that showed the windows drive, but my storage drive (which is ntfs) is showing up at GPT @_@ Never heard of GPT.
[20:59] <pasxalis> not my pci 7.1
[20:59] <pasxalis> how can I see the other sound cards on the system with alsamixer?
[21:00] <maco> v3trae: wait is it remote?
[21:00] <pasxalis> marcel?
[21:00] <v3trae> maco: no, it's a terabyte drive in my box D=
[21:00] <maco> pasxalis: did you try specifying another card, like alsamixer -c1 ?
[21:01] <maco> marcel: the manpage says -P destination[/instance] Prints files to the named printer.
[21:02] <q_> y
[21:02] <v3trae> maco: i figured it out, sorry to bother you
[21:03] <_dfaure> Riddell: how does one install both libsvn-dev and librdf0-dev on kubuntu intrepid? they seem mutually exclusive (svn wants db4.6, rdf wants db4.7)
[21:03] <v3trae> maco: didn't know about the fdisk -l though, will have to remember that, thanks =)
[21:03] <dan> hello kworld!
[21:03] <pasxalis> there are a lot of useful commands along with fdisk
[21:03] <Tm_T> _dfaure: really good question, I always forced myself to forget libsvn-dev
[21:04] <roconnor> damn gtk2hs 0.10
[21:04] <pasxalis> ok alsamixer works but I still don't here any sound I play.....But I can hear my own voice from the microphone!!!
[21:05] <roconnor> oops, wrong chan
[21:05] <roconnor> sorry
[21:05] <pasxalis> hear*
[21:05] <v3trae> will putting a shortcut to command that uses sudo into ~./kde/Autostart let the program run?
[21:05] <Tm_T> v3trae: I'd say no
[21:06] <v3trae> Tm_T: is there a way to get commands that require sudo to run at boot? IE using ntfs-3g to mount drive?
[21:06] <Tm_T> v3trae: typically you mount stuff in fstab
[21:06] <pasxalis> is there any solution to my sound problem?
[21:06] <dan> please help me to put kubuntu on the box: samsung NC10, no cdrom, kubuntu 9 is on the USB and could boot. There is now a free partition, D: in Win* dialect, the C: still needs Win* for chess&job.
[21:07] <Tm_T> !mount | v3trae
[21:07] <v3trae> Tm_T: thank you
[21:09] <v3trae> !fstab
[21:10] <Ketrel> I'm having a small problem with Lancelot on KDE 4.2
[21:10] <Ketrel> The icon will not keep it's size when I reboot or log out
[21:10] <Ketrel> (or restart plasma)
[21:13] <dan> kubuntu on samsung: Please help: i have the following choices: (10resize_use_free), (20some_device), (50biggest_free), (80custom). Since (80custom) fails with error code 141 or so, i decided to make a free partition, then (50biggest_free) tells me about Partitions 5(ext3) and 6(Swap) on SCSI1(0,0,0) (sda). No size! * Is this D: ? *
[21:14] <dan> (this is step 7 out of 7... last chance to quit)
[21:16] <NotSure> K D E  4.1    When I  minimize a window and it disappears... how do I see the minimized windows that are still open...
[21:17] <maco> dan: run "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal and itll tell you about the partitions so you can see what each of them is
[21:17] <maco> dan: and when did D: stop meaning "CD drive" in Windows?
[21:17] <senorpedro> hi folks
[21:17] <maco> NotSure: no window list in your panel?
[21:18] <dan> maco: sudo bash; fdisk -l gives me the sudo bash
[21:18] <senorpedro> for some reason the nvidia driver doesnt install corectly with aptitude on my system. so i compiled it myself. funny thing is, now everytime i start the computer i have to compile the driver new, otherwise X doesnt work (driver not found). does anybody know what the reason is?
[21:19] <maco> dan: why'd you do sudo bash?
[21:20] <NotSure> thats the thing;.. The minimized window should go to the taskbar but doesn't....  There is a key combo that i can do but dont know what it is..  (remember)
[21:20] <NotSure> to open or maximize the windows
[21:20] <dan> maco: sudo bash; fdisk -l gives me the /dev/sd1 (recovery?) and * /dev/sd2 , the /dev/sd3 is the one i deleted in advance. My problem is to identify SCSI notation and the "free space"
[21:21] <NotSure> dan  use partition editor or gparted no?
[21:21] <dan> maco: sudo bash makes life easier in that window: all further sudo's can be omitted
[21:21] <maco> dan: why are you typing "sudo bash"?
[21:21] <maco> dan: oh. well stop using a semi colon~!
[21:21] <maco> dan: it wont execute the part after teh ; until after the bash exits...i think
[21:22] <maco> dan: see how it says "blocks"? the higher the number, the bigger the partition
[21:23] <dan> maco: sorry;) the problem is, i'm in the installer, and the installer gives me no chance/comfort to identify partitions; unfortunately, i can't see any info, i can commit install on SCSI(0,0,0) or not..
[21:23] <maco> dan: oh the partition hasnt been written yet?
[21:24] <dan> maco: using gparted i could remove that NTFS D: of windows, shall i put some ext3 by myself on the  free space? (this would be weirs and confusing in the menu of (50biggest_free)
[21:25] <maco> dan: i usually use gparted instead of what's in the installer anyway
[21:25] <dan> maco: no, i am at step 7 out of 7, i have to accept install on SCSI(0,0,0) or not...
[21:26] <maco> oh
[21:26] <maco> sorry, i dont understand that either
[21:26] <dan> maco: ubuntu 7.04 installed from USB with no problems on some asus EEE last year, now i have to remaster the job with the newer distro, but there is no place for a manual partitioning in the installer...
[21:27] <dan> maco: thanks a lot for the help, i'l google also parallely!
[21:29] <firephoto> anyone else lose their 'click to focus' on inactive windows today on hardy?
[21:32] <NotSure>  K D E  4.1    When I  minimize a window and it disappears... how do I see the minimized windows that are still open..      what is the key command to max a window...
[21:32] <j0nnyx> hi ppl
[21:32] <j0nnyx> is anybody here ?
[21:32] <Guest50275> no.
[21:33] <j0nnyx> i need help!
[21:34] <`n> !ask
[21:34] <j0nnyX> `n do you know somethink about neostats ?
[21:39] <NotSure> google is our friend.....    the max min keystroke is     alt tab
[21:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, how dero i set Kubuntu up so it only show the current programs on current desk? Cant rememb
[21:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, how do i set Kubuntu up so it only show the current programs on current desk? Cant remember*
[21:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sorry for repeat! :-)
[21:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Mouse moved coures while writing
[21:51] <senorpedro> !nvidia
[21:52] <v3trae> !hotkeys
[21:53] <cameron__> yay
[21:54] <v3trae> Is there a way to make custom hotkeys in kde? Looking to make hotkeys to open firefox, pidgin, etc.
[21:56] <Spinshank> yay lol i got kubuntu working now 2 gte wine and vm working
[21:56] <Spinshank> get*
[21:57] <Spinshank> !vmware
[21:57] <maco> v3trae: system settings -> input actions
[21:58] <Spinshank> !virtualbox
[21:58] <maco> v3trae: i added a group called "apps" and then enabled it, then put shortcuts in that group
[21:58] <v3trae> maco: beautiful, i knew it was here just couldn't find it. THanks again
[21:59] <v3trae> maco: oh man, this is even easier than kde 3 xD
[21:59] <Spinshank> hey guys im on kubuntu i686 (64bit) what the vmware wine like programe i need
[22:00] <v3trae> Spinshank: what?
[22:00] <j0nnyX> i cant install libperl-dev, can anyone help me ?
[22:01] <Spinshank> what version of wine / vurtual box works for i686 (64bit)
[22:01] <v3trae> j0nnyX: why can't you install it?
[22:01] <j0nnyX> v3trae: broken package
[22:01] <v3trae> Spinshank: i'd assume the wine in apt would work.
[22:04] <pasxalis> Spinshank: do you mean wineHQ?
[22:04] <Spinshank> yeah
[22:04] <pasxalis> you can find it in adept
[22:04] <Spinshank> woot wine is done... did work lastnight
[22:05] <Spinshank> didnot*
[22:09] <cuznt> my access keep being denied to /media/cdrom0   my dvd from archived disks mostly made with k3b
[22:09] <cuznt> how come they are resricted?
[22:10] <cbwcjw2> cuznt: They are root files (most likley) Try alt-f2 kdesudo dolphin
[22:10] <cbwcjw2> cuznt: or kdesu dolphin, doesnt matter.
[22:10] <v3trae> desudesudesu
[22:11] <cuznt> nope
[22:12] <pasxalis> does anyone know about amsn?
[22:12] <pasxalis> I cannot configure speakers and mic
[22:13] <malv> how is kubuntus 4.1 bugginess compared to the experimental 4.2
[22:13] <malv> i am wondering if I should reinstall 4.1
[22:13] <v3trae> malv: i'm actually having less problems with 4.2 then i did with 4.1
[22:13] <cbwcjw2> malv: I am having WAYYY less issues with KDE 4.2
[22:13] <cuznt> it says can not start process can not talk to klauncher
[22:13] <malv> does the kubuntu team fix bugs in the programs with patches?
[22:14] <v3trae> malv: just gotta get the new nvidia drivers and it's smooth sailing
[22:14] <malv> which nvidia drivers?
[22:14] <malv> i get corruption will all of them
[22:14] <malv> with*
[22:14] <Guest68984> i finally got good ones
[22:14] <v3trae> malv: the ones off their website =P
[22:14] <malv> what card do you have?
[22:14] <malv> my 8800 gets corruption =(
[22:14] <v3trae> malv: gf8800gtx
[22:14] <malv> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
[22:15] <malv> which repo are you using?
[22:15] <malv> neon or the experimental ppa?
[22:15] <v3trae> malv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993788 might help you
[22:16] <malv> which exact version of the driver?
[22:16] <malv> 180.22?
[22:16] <v3trae> malv: yeah, 180 series
[22:16] <malv> but the exact version
[22:17] <v3trae> malv: i don't know honestly, you know a way for me to check i'd be happy to do so.
[22:17] <malv> cause I've heard of different bugs between the versions
[22:17] <malv> nvidia-settings
[22:17] <v3trae> malv: 180.22 yeah
[22:17] <malv> ok, thanks
[22:17] <malv> well. you give me hope for a better future =)
[22:17] <v3trae> malv: yar, good luck.
[22:17] <v3trae> malv: ;D
[22:18] <malv> i'm going to try a reinstall
[22:18] <malv> you're using 64-bit kubuntu right?
[22:18] <malv> with the experimental ppa listed on the front of the kubuntu site
[22:18] <v3trae> malv: if you can pull up that thread on a second computer or something and follow it to the letter you shouldn't have problems, thats what i did, only difference is replace gdm with kdm when it goes through disabling it and stuff
[22:18] <v3trae> malv: i'm on 64bit
[22:18] <malv> ok
[22:18] <malv> ill do that
[22:19] <v3trae> malv: i'll be here for a while, feel free to let me know how it goes.
[22:20] <malv> so when you downloaded it you actually have multiple .run files?
[22:20] <v3trae> malv: i only got one.
[22:20] <malv> hmmm. I noticed in the nvidia ftp they have run1 run2 and run3
[22:20] <malv> I only use the first
[22:20] <v3trae> malv: hold on a second, i'll get you the ext one i used.
[22:20] <v3trae> exact*
[22:22] <Bsims> I can't get anti cashew plasmoid to build any ideas?
[22:23] <v3trae> malv: http://www.v3trae.net/linux/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.22-pkg2.run
[22:23] <malv> ah, ok. so its the same listed on the site
[22:23] <malv> thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it goes
[22:23] <v3trae> malv: yeah, their sites a little more confusing than it should be, figured i'd save you a step and just upload it ;)
[22:23] <malv> I expect your card and my card to be pretty similar so if you are avoiding the system tray corruption then I should be able to
[22:24] <v3trae> malv: thats the hope anyway ;) mines evga just ffr
[22:24] <v3trae> malv: not the OC'd version
[22:24] <v3trae> !screencap
[22:24] <v3trae> !screenshot
[22:32] <v3trae> clear
[22:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is K3b able to burn .img files?
[22:32] <v3trae> mt
[22:32] <v3trae> !k3b | Sp0tKubuntu
[22:33] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: it can burn iso's i don't see why it wouldn't be able to burn .img
[22:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Its not on the list?
[22:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: The link was not usefull, sorry
[22:35] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: http://tinyurl.com/dmrs64
[22:35] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: first result.
[22:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Im new, sorry! Have found it, before i saw your link, its just extended, and then DVDiso
[22:37] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: we were all there at some point, no worries.
[22:37] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: I know! But thanks for helping me out, burning right now :-)
[22:37] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: you're very welcome.
[22:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Another thing, do you know you it can be that my DVD lags when i play? Even from Hard drive
[22:38] <ott0> i noticed recently that i can no longer adjust my screen brightness
[22:38] <ott0> i assume it's a problem with acpi
[22:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: why*
[22:38] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: not sure, could be player, could be a codec, could be alot of things
[22:39] <ott0> i think it happened after some update
[22:39] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: i'm trying to figure out why vlc wont do audio atm =D
[22:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: I use VLC player! That should be good?
[22:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: No audio? Thats was with me, because the soundmixer in the system was on 0 in PCM
[22:39] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: yeah vlc should be fine. Although it looks like vlc broke alsa support at some point so i'm back to oss again ;D
[22:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Try set PCM up in your sound mixer
[22:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Oss?  Better than VLC? Or?
[22:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: I like the GUI i VLC, and the menus and so on
[22:42] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: oss is the old sound driver. not a player, ALSA is the current standard but some things don't get along with it so you have to use OSS
[22:42] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: nah keep using vlc, i adore it.
[22:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Ok! :-) Thanks again! :-)
[22:42] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: righto =D
[22:43] <EagleScreen> how can I save a picture in two colours format (black and white, not gray scale)?
[22:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: You have older computer? Wich system are you using btw?
[22:43] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: nah this machine rules. What do you mean by system?
[22:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: OS
[22:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Wich machine you have? MSI PR 200 here
[22:44] <v3trae> v3trae: kubuntu here, hence the channel. This is a home built quadcore 4gram machine
[22:45] <v3trae> malv: any luck?
[22:45] <malv> oh, havent installed yet
[22:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae: Ok, i have also a stationary, 3.16Ghz Duo Core, 2Gb 1150Mhz Kingston and 7900GT 512 :-)
[22:46] <malv> accidentally put ubuntu on my thumb drive instead of kubuntu
[22:46] <v3trae> malv: lolk
[22:46] <Bsims> why does 4.2 want to make a qt-subaplication icon for an X11 app like urxvt
[22:46] <v3trae> Sp0tKubuntu: yeah i like the machine alot =D
[22:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> v3trae:  :-)
[22:47] <inzi> hello
[22:47] <inzi> everyone
[22:47] <v3trae> inzi: hello!
[22:47] <inzi> hi
[22:47] <inzi> i just switched to kubuntu from ubuntu
[22:47] <inzi> pretty much a newbie here
[22:47] <v3trae> inzi: i did the same yesterday ;D
[22:47] <inzi> haha
[22:47] <inzi> awesome1
[22:47] <inzi> haha
[22:47] <inzi> how long have u been using ubuntu?
[22:48] <v3trae> inzi: off and on for a year or so, my gaming addiction keeps making me go back to windows for short stints
[22:48] <inzi> lol
[22:48] <inzi> yah
[22:48] <inzi> im not much of a gamer.. so.. once i switched to ubuntu.. loved the experience.. and i never turned backh
[22:49] <inzi> ahaha
[22:49] <inzi> but in need some help.
[22:50] <v3trae> inzi: whatsup
[22:50] <inzi> my kubuntu....doesn't shut down
[22:50] <inzi> u know. its the same thing with ubuntu 8.10
[22:50] <inzi> i can't remember wat i did...
[22:50] <inzi> on ubuntu..
[22:50] <inzi>  hehe. so..
[22:50] <v3trae> i've never run into that problem before D+
[22:51] <inzi> something about the network adapter not shuttin off.
[22:52] <inzi> i guess i'll have to google it
[22:52] <v3trae> inzi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432380
[22:52] <v3trae> inzi: already did for you =P i'm really the only one talking atm and i'm too new to be much help for people
[22:52] <Spinshank> !virtualbox
[22:53] <v3trae> Right now amarok will play audio fine, but vlc and firefox wont, and i have no idea where to start D=
[22:55] <inzi> oh
[22:56] <inzi> check the audio output
[22:56] <inzi> switch from pulse to alsa
[22:56] <inzi> it might work then
[22:56] <v3trae> inzi: where do i switch that D+
[22:57] <rashednm_> hi
[22:58] <v3trae> rashednm_: hiya
[22:58] <v3trae> inzi: do i switch that in my system settings or on the applications themselves or what?
[23:00] <inzi> applications themselves
[23:00] <inzi> it should do that trick
[23:00] <inzi> hey rashed!
[23:00] <inzi> how u
[23:01] <hybrid> why am i not able to mount images with k3b
[23:01] <v3trae> inzi: hmm that didn't do it, i'll have make a post and check back later, going to class =/
[23:01] <RurouniJones> Because K3b isn't for mounting images
[23:01] <hybrid> oh i see an option to mount or unmount
[23:02] <hybrid> what would u recomend
[23:02] <ZmAY> i just installed dc++, but there are some font problems, instead of letters there are rectangles, (linuxdcpp:1351): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_covers: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed, any suggestions what to do?
[23:03] <inzi> aight
[23:03] <inzi> c ya
[23:04] <v3trae> inzi: ttyl man ;) welcome to kubuntu
[23:04] <inzi> u too dude
[23:04] <inzi> catch u later
[23:08] <lfranchi_> i have a fresh kubuntu install, and am trying to enable the binary nvidia drivers. in the Hardware Drivers dialog, tell it to enable the 177 drivers, but it just hangs for a while without doing anything
[23:08] <Bsims> I found out why I was getting the yellow cashew in system tray on starting urxvt... you have to go into advanced and uncheck place in system tray
[23:09] <hybrid> u have to reboot  franchi
[23:09] <hybrid> after download
[23:10] <lfranchi_> they don't show as activated even if they are, until i reboot?
[23:10] <Bsims> I am looking for a semi-translucent weather plasmoid
[23:12] <hybrid> yes u should of hade a dialog saying u need a reboot after install
[23:13] <Defense|Twin> Hey, is anyone here who can tell me why the backportet kde 4.2 needs akonadi-server for kmail?
[23:14] <firephoto> anyone having mouse issues today after 8.04 hardy updates?
[23:14] <Bsims> Defense|Twin: the new kdepin uses akonadi to store all the info
[23:14] <kaddi> where can i set the default application to open http-links with?
[23:14] <Defense|Twin> my problem is, that i dont want to spend 100 mb just for kmail
[23:14] <Bsims> kaddi: system > default applications
[23:14] <Defense|Twin> Bsims: but my gentoo svn-kde doesn'T need akonadi-server
[23:15] <Bsims> Defense|Twin: Hrm different depends/compile options would be my guess
[23:15] <Defense|Twin> Bsims: sure but what for a crap is this?
[23:15] <Defense|Twin> its a killer dep for netbooks
[23:15]  * Bsims chuckles I know I feel your pain Defense|Twin
[23:15] <lfranchi_> probably the compile time options that kubuntu preselects require it
[23:15] <lfranchi_> while with gentoo you can choose, and by default it is off
[23:16] <astaka> merhaba 3 günlük bir linux kullanıcısına minik bir kaç yardımı olabilecek kimse var mı?
[23:16] <Bsims> think its now default with 4.2 in 4.1 it was optional
[23:16] <Defense|Twin> lfranchi_: yes with gentoo i can choose it...
[23:16] <Defense|Twin> Bsims: this really sucks...
[23:17] <lfranchi_> Defense|Twin: thats gonna be an inherent difference between source and binary distros
[23:17] <Defense|Twin> i just uninstalled kmail just because of dep to akonadi-> mysql
[23:17]  * Bsims sighs such is life Defense|Twin
[23:17] <Defense|Twin> so i have to check out if opensuse has the same problem or if they did it right...
[23:18] <Bsims> Defense|Twin: or build from source debs and edit the depend out
[23:18] <astaka> pls help... :( i have a fly usb2.0 webcam but i cant use it :(
[23:18] <Defense|Twin> Bsims: thats why i'm not using gentoo on my netbook.. i dont want to do anything by myself...
[23:19] <Bsims> Defense|Twin: I dunno but I think that decision was made upstream by the kde dev team
[23:21] <Daffi> hi i have got a question! I always used windows but no I decided to join the unix community.My problem is that i need to programm and my habbit is to programm in windows. Is there a possibility to simulate windows just for programming?
[23:21] <Dragnslcr> Daffi- programming in what language?
[23:21] <Daffi> c and c++
[23:22] <lfranchi_> you won't be able to use the windows libraries
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> Plenty of IDE's for Linux
[23:22] <lfranchi_> but you'll be able to use much better toolkits..... like Qt
[23:22] <Dragnslcr> KDevelop and Eclipse are the first that come to mind
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> Qt and GTK both have Windows versions of their libraries
[23:23] <Daffi> eclipse also come in my mind ... the problems are that i need to change my programming style
[23:23] <lfranchi_> yeah but GTK doesn't count ;)
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[23:23] <lfranchi_> besides qt blows gtk out of the water
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> I've never really programmed in either (dabbling in php-gtk for a month or two doesn't count), so I couldn't say
[23:24] <Daffi> grml okay.
[23:25] <Daffi> thats my main problem
[23:26] <Daffi> and another but not so important problem is i got some windows pc´s in the network. Am i still able to connect between them and the unix laptop?
[23:28] <Defense|Twin> Daffi: connect for what?
[23:28] <Defense|Twin> just file transfer?
[23:28] <Daffi> yeah
[23:28] <Daffi> nothing else
[23:28] <lfranchi_> you can set up samba on linux
[23:28] <lfranchi_> which acts like a windows host
[23:28] <Defense|Twin> so file transfer should be simple
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> Few different ways
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> Samba would let you do the typical Windows network shares
[23:29] <Daffi> something like an emulator?
[23:29] <kaddi> Bsims: thanks
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> You can also use SCP, which just requires sshd on the Ubuntu box and a program like WinSCP on the Windows box
[23:29] <core1024> FTP, HTTP, samba, SCP are all comptable ;)
[23:30] <Daffi> okay so that should not be a problem
[23:30] <Daffi> furthermore my programming part
[23:33] <malv0> i think my corruption issues may be gone
[23:33] <malv0> woot woot
[23:35] <malv0> actually, perhaps not
[23:36] <ZmAY> hello, can somebody help me with pango error.. :  Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_engine_shape_covers: assertion `PANGO_IS_FONT (font)' failed
[23:40] <Spinshank> im having trubble getting a usb mic working with wine / vent
[23:41] <shadowhywind> hay all I am trying to set up a rsync backup server, however when i run rsync, my files don't get sent
[23:41] <talonstriker> which repo do I add to upgrade to kde 4.2?
[23:42] <letalis> has kde4 reached a level of maturity yet where clicking icons on the desktop doesnt hose the desktop or is it still quirky? LOL
[23:42] <letalis> im a little leary to try it again after seeing how unstable it was in 4.1
[23:43] <core1024> me too
[23:43] <lfranchi_> 4.2 is pretty awesome
[23:43] <lfranchi_> from a *completely* unbiased source
[23:44] <letalis> well nrmally im a kde man myself.
[23:44] <raindog> 4.2 is much better.  No serious issues for me.
[23:44] <letalis> and kde4 shows a lot of promise.
[23:44] <kaddi>  the folder content of the Desktop-folder in my home directory  isn't shown on my desktop. is this a bug or a feature?
[23:44] <kaddi> if the latter how can i change that? D:
[23:45] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- you can a Folder View to your desktop and point it to ~/Desktop
[23:45] <letalis> im rediscovering gnome, i havent used it really since the 0.9 series. its not as ba as i thought it would be. :P
[23:45] <Dragnslcr> Personally, I prefer having an auto-hiding panel on the left side with a folder widget
[23:46] <vlt> Hello. Which kernel package do I need to run Ubuntu 8.10 in a XEN domU? linux-image-virtual?
[23:47] <kaddi> Dragnslcr: i actually knew said... have to start thinking again
[23:47] <kaddi> *d'oh*
[23:47] <kaddi> the auto hiding panel sounds like a good solution :)
[23:48] <letalis> whats the apt package name to install the base kde4 desktop?
[23:48] <Mattos-PR> h
[23:48] <Defense|Twin> hm so i asked the suse guys... ubuntu doesn't need akonadi for kmail in kde 4.2
[23:48] <letalis> i have intrepid
[23:49] <Defense|Twin> so someone pls talk to the kubuntu-kde-maintainers and tell them that they are doing crap...
[23:53] <lfranchi_> blame apachelogger for everything
[23:53] <Dragnslcr> letalis- kubuntu-desktop?
[23:53] <letalis> looks like it only installs the 3 series when you do that
[23:53] <letalis> i tried it
[23:53] <letalis> LOL
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> In 8.10?
[23:54] <letalis> most of the kde4 packages have kde4 in them
[23:54] <letalis> and when i did that none of the packages it offered to install did
[23:54] <letalis> so i am assuming that theres another metapackage for kde4
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> Sure you're on 8.10?
[23:55] <letalis> yeah
[23:55] <letalis> intrepid ibex
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> kubuntu-desktop is for KDE4 on 8.10
[23:59] <letalis> its kubuntu-kde4-desktop in case anyone is wondering.


[19:10] <melodie> hello
[20:16] <Colorado_Al> Lubuntu on chromebook? Link for resource or how to? Thanks!
[20:16] <ianorlin> Colorado_Al, we could help you more if you told us the model number
[20:18] <Colorado_Al> Have not purchased one yet. Would love a recommendation.
[20:20] <Unit193> Colorado_Al: I'd look at http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/795730-how-to-easily-install-ubuntu-on-chromebook-with-crouton and http://www.circuidipity.com/c720-lubuntubook.html
[20:20] <Unit193> Colorado_Al: I have never used a chromebook though.
[20:20] <Colorado_Al> Cool. Thanks!
[20:20] <Unit193> ianorlin may be able to help more.
[20:21] <ianorlin> I don't have a chromebook or have used one
[20:21] <ianorlin> havne't used one
[20:21] <Unit193> Welp, aren't we oh so useful? ;D
[20:21] <Colorado_Al> Loogs great. Appreciate it!
[20:21] <Colorado_Al> "Looks"
[20:21] <Unit193> Good luck.
[20:22] <Colorado_Al> I'll report back with results. Thanks!
[20:32] <melodie> good night
[20:34] <likemindead> Night? It's only 15:34 here!
[20:34] <ianorlin> lots of different timezones of people on irc
[20:48] <likemindead> People outside of the USA have the interwebs?!
[20:50] <genii> Maybe it's called outerwebs there
[20:55] <likemindead> As a long-time die hard Xubuntu user... wow... Lubuntu is /really/ nice.
[21:54] <TheBigDeal> Hi
[21:54] <TheBigDeal> anyone have an idea how can i set up the shortcut for the next input method in Lubuntu, it's pretty messy :/ ?
[23:28] <jay111> how come no one ever designed a linux distro that is a spit image of windows 7 ?
[23:28] <jay111> like a linux distro that has the capabilities of running exe files without wine
[23:29] <Unit193> At that point, just install Windows 7.  There are many, many reasons.  Also, look at ReactOS.
[23:31] <jay111> is there a linux distro that can run windows 7 and make win7 invincble to viruses and malware ?