[00:00] <escott> fbdystang, if it would go away on reboot it a kernel bug of some kind
[00:00] <fuzzyghost> Heya, got a quick question; how bad is it, if you sudo chmod 0+rwx / on a local machine?
[00:00] <escott> fbdystang, or your /tmp is enormous
[00:00] <fbdystang> escott, should I just try rebooting now?
[00:00] <escott> fuzzyghost, reinstall
[00:00] <fuzzyghost> Really?
[00:01] <fuzzyghost> So, it is usable, as long as I don't reboot/turn off?
[00:01] <fuzzyghost> Is it fixable at this point that I can use it?
[00:01] <eighteens> hi i'm trying to get a kodak esp 2150 wireless printer to work in ubuntu 13.04 with no luck at all, however it will print to a hp printer via usb cable
[00:01] <surbs> escott, lunitik, fbdystang: i have class, will be moving location and disconnecting for the time being. hopefully you will be still on; as of now thank you for the help!
[00:01] <Guest65921> any one can help with getting ubuntu 12.10  to work with intel 845g graphics?
[00:02] <fuzzyghost> What were the permissions before hand?
[00:02] <fuzzyghost> Anything I can do?
[00:03] <surbs> Guest65921, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ might be a start
[00:03] <OerHeks> fuzzyghost, reinstall, backup your data first
[00:03] <fbdystang> escott, sudo du -sh /tmp says 100K
[00:04] <fuzzyghost> All my stuff is kept on a secondary drive, but I'm not in a position to reinstall at the moment.  I'm on vacation two states away from my secondary machines, no extra install discs.
[00:04] <sckssssss> can anyone tell me how to get unity back
[00:04] <Edogaa> anyone here use the i3 WM?
[00:04] <fuzzyghost> I didn't use -r, just on the root directory.  Root still owns /, and the directories below.  Can't I just sudo chmod o=rw, or o=r?
[00:05] <fbdystang> escott, i give up I am rebooting
[00:05] <mario45366> Lunikiti Do you happen to know why yahoo is redirecting google chrome 17 to http://m.yahoo.com/?.tsrc=yahoo&mobile_view_default=true  the mobile site?  I never did this before
[00:07] <hexacode> hey you guys, i had ubuntu and windows 7 running dual boot, then i installed mint over ubuntu and now i have no dual boot options...it just goes straight to windows....wat can i do about this? i know mint was installed successfully
[00:08] <Jordan_U> hexacode: Try asking in #grub or in the mint support channel. This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> !mint | hexacode
[00:09] <escott> fuzzyghost, if you didnt -r its mostly ok 755
[00:09] <fbdystang> escott, dang I rebooted and borked it. No GUI in. Please help me find the offending file through command line...please
[00:10] <escott> fuzzyghost, you do have to worry somewhat if it were a multi user system and someone notice and took advantag eof it
[00:10] <escott> fbdystang, you could boot the livecd and use the gui from it
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> Okay, going to set permissions in / back to 755.
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> I'm the only user set up on this laptop.
[00:10] <sckssssss> WHY DON'T I HAVE UNITY
[00:10] <fuzzyghost> Thank you.
[00:10] <sckssssss> woops
[00:11] <fbdystang> escott, ok I could do that, is that the best way?
[00:11] <escott> fbdystang, if you are more comfortable with a gui yes
[00:12] <fbdystang> escott, is it ok if I check back in with you later when I can be physically in front of the server/
[00:12] <fbdystang> *?
[00:13] <fuzzyghost> Just in case, my flub was sudo chmod o+rwx /*, but I performed a sudo chmod 755 /*.
[00:13] <fuzzyghost> So hopefully I won't need to reinstall.
[00:14] <fuzzyghost> Either way, thank you all for the help.
[00:14] <psomodi> Hi, anybody with any experience with VIA video drivers?
[00:15] <Lockzi> Hey guys, I have a problem I hope you can help me with. I am trying to autostart an rvm application on boot... Any hints? The problem is first of all RVM that assumes an bash environment, secondly I want it to run as a specific user
[00:15] <dr_willis> Via makes video chipsets? thought they were a MB chipset/maker
[00:16] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  no idea what rvm is.. but if its a non-X-Gui program. you could start it from rc.local as whatever user you want
[00:16] <Lockzi> dr_willis: https://rvm.io/
[00:16] <Lockzi> It's Ruby essentially
[00:17] <dr_willis> you can use sudo or su from rc.local to spawn somthing as a differnt  user. in  /etc/rc.local
[00:17] <Lockzi> can I "chain" that with a screen session that it lives in?
[00:20] <dr_willis> you could spawn a screen session from rc.local if you wanted
[00:20] <dr_willis> and screen can be set to auto-run differnent apps in differnt sessions
[00:20] <dr_willis> or use tmux, or byobu
[00:21] <Lockzi> dr_willis, what do you mean by "set to auto-run"? That sounds interesting ;)
[00:21] <dr_willis> you can run apps when you start screen...
[00:21] <dr_willis> just like it sounds..
[00:21] <Lockzi> Ah, ok
[00:21] <dr_willis> see the screen docs.. i rarely  use  the  feature
[00:22] <dr_willis> tmux has similer feature i recall
[00:22] <Lockzi> How would you recomment I try this out?
[00:22] <Lockzi> I rather not reboot all the time while testing
[00:23] <dr_willis> get a screen session doing what you want. then  figure out  how to  launch  it from rc.local
[00:23] <dr_willis> via sudo or su in rc.local
[00:24] <dr_willis> this may  not work right if your users are using encrypted homes..
[00:24] <dr_willis> and the user you want to run stuff as.. has their home encrypted
[00:24] <approach_> exit
[00:29] <Fishscene> ok so, I'm trying to boot a laptop off of Ubuntu.  I can't boot from USB because while creating it, Pendrive says it will be unbootable. Tried downloading Xubuntu, but I can't seem to get a good download link.
[00:29] <sckssssss> can nobody help me with unity?
[00:29] <fbdystang> escott, I found the file ".xsession-errors"
[00:30] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how I might possibly boot Ubuntu??
[00:30] <fbdystang> 170G
[00:30] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  the pendrivelinux site has alternative tools to  making  a bootable usb
[00:30] <Lockzi> dr_willis While testing now it asks me for a password when I run the su command, that will NOT happen when ran through rc.local?
[00:30] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  you can image the iso strifht to usb via dd or windows imageing tools if needed
[00:30] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  rc.local runs as root to  begin with
[00:31] <Lockzi> dr_willis Which means that chaning users should not require passwords?
[00:31] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  ask a actual question to see
[00:31] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  you got it
[00:31] <Lockzi> Perfect
[00:31] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I'll look into the pendrive alternate solution. I can't dd anything properly (believe me, I've tried)
[00:31] <sckssssss> oh, you mean repeat it
[00:31] <sckssssss> ok
[00:31] <dr_willis> Lockzi:  ive started vnc sessions that way befor
[00:32] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  what os are you  on right now?
[00:32] <Lockzi> So... In my script I have: su -c "screen -d -m -S SiriProxy" - administrator
[00:32] <sckssssss> when i login, there is no unity, just a desktop and icons
[00:32] <Lockzi> But it does not initiate a screen session...
[00:32] <sckssssss> happened after i installed updates
[00:32] <peopleoftheinter> i have an ad blocker in my android /etc/hosts, could someone please give me the link of http://adf.ly/B91Zt ? thx
[00:32] <fbdystang> dr_willis, how do I read a 170Gb error log through the command line?
[00:32] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  either its a video driver issue. or a user config issue.. if a newly  made user fails - that points to a video driver issue
[00:32] <sckssssss> its not the video drivers
[00:33] <sckssssss> i am still using them
[00:33] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  with the more or less commands..  but i bet you are going to have a hard time finding any  use full info
[00:33] <sckssssss> can also login to other window managers
[00:33] <Guest65921> any one can help with intel82845 graphics driver in ubuntu 12.10
[00:33] <Lockzi> Sorry, scratch that - it does indeed create a screen session... But then it does not run the following commands (silly me)
[00:33] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  prove that  statement by   adding a new user. and see if  they work properly
[00:34] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I'm on Windows 7 x64
[00:34] <fbdystang> dr_willis, is there a way to just display the last little bit of errors?
[00:34] <dr_willis> sckssssss:  sudo adduser billgates    then see if billgatges can login properly
[00:34] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  theres windows image tools that can image the iso  straight to flash. you may need to rename the .iso  to  .img  but they can work. I might  have some listed at  my   delicious.com/dr_willis page
[00:35] <Fishscene> ok. Thanks mate!
[00:35] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  the #raspberrypi channel should know of more imageing tools also.
[00:35] <dr_willis> about the only  time i use them is to  image a raspPi img to a sd card.
[00:35] <dr_willis> bb in a few...
[00:36] <crooper> q
[00:36] <idiocrash> hi guys, anyone familiar with OpenDirectory?
[00:37] <Lockzi> dr_willis: Where should I place my custom bash script? ~/bin?
[00:38] <Lockzi> init.d/?
[00:39] <Tellmarch> Hello, what is the best option to encrypt a full external hard drive? i'd like to keep good performances, if possible...
[00:41] <sckssssss> still no unity
[00:42] <sckssssss> new user logs in fine
[00:43] <escott> fbdystang, you can safely remove that
[00:44] <histo> !anyone | idiocrash
[00:44] <Jeaton> i dont know if this would be a problem with ubuntu, gnome, or xchat but when I click minimize to tray, xchat disappears completely
[00:44] <Jeaton> even though the process is still running
[00:44] <histo> Jeaton: it's on the launmcher
[00:46] <escott> fbdystang, tail ~/.xsession-errors
[00:46] <histo> s/launmcher/launcher/
[00:46] <Jofironses> ello, I'm going to engage in an academic projects in which I'm going to need signals of up to 5 V. So I'd like to know if it is possible to output such signals with the sound card in my pc from linux or is it better to use a serial port from usb? Or maybe there is another better choice?
[00:47] <sckssssss> i think you can get 3.3/5v out of usb
[00:48] <histo> Jofironses: serial/usb
[00:48] <Jeaton> histo, what do you mean by that? I know it use to stick it on the indicator tray
[00:48] <Jeaton> but it doesnt show up anywhere
[00:48] <Jofironses> right, is there something made to work with the serial on linux?
[00:49] <Jofironses> I mean, some kind of command
[00:49] <Jofironses> or maybe a library
[00:50] <histo> Jofironses: you could write directly to it in linux. Everything is files. You may wan't to look at rasbperry pi and their gpio pins or ask some of them. I'm sure there is an pi channel on freenode.
[00:50] <Fishscene> dr_willis: I figured out the pendrivelinux.com installer problem. The drive was formatted FAT32 or EXFAT. It needed to be NTFS. It's too bad that the format option on the universal usb installer doesn't *actually* format the drive to what it needs.
[00:51] <Jofironses> histo: Thanks for your sugestion, I'll look into it.
[00:52] <Lockzi> dr_willis: Thank you for your help - I got it working! :)
[00:52] <sckssssss> wish you would help me...
[00:52] <histo> Jofironses: or the arduino community would have some input
[00:52] <sckssssss> i heard you are good at it...
[00:53] <Jofironses> k
[00:53] <histo> !who | sckssssss
[00:54] <sckssssss> he knows who he is
[00:55] <celso_> hi people! Does anyone knows how to fix the "dummy output" sound bug on ubuntu 12.10 and ubuntu 12.04.2 versions?
[00:57] <StephBot> The new LibreOffice 4.0 is released, but why I can't update to it by using apt?
[00:57] <Jeaton> histo, what do you mean by it's on the launcher?
[00:57] <escott> StephBot, because thats not how ubuntu works
[00:58] <Tellmarch> StephBot, ubuntu will generally not let you use the latest versions of software... you'll get a new version when you upgrade your ubuntu (to 13.04 in a few months for instance)
[00:58] <Tellmarch> it's often possible to add unofficial repositories though, with the latest versions
[00:58] <PackOfHighly> anyone know why a bootable 12.04 on usb drive made with Pendrive would boot into the start screen (where you can select start unbuntu install unbutu boot 1st harddrive, etc) but just go to that screen again when you select any option besides boot from 1st harddrive?
[01:01] <sckssssss> why does unity suck so bad?
[01:01] <histo> Jeaton: the thing on the left side of the desktop where all the icons are. When you minimize something in unity it goes there to it's icon.
[01:01] <_helios_> sckssssss: I don't think Unity sucks.
[01:01] <histo> sckssssss: I don't think it does either. It's growing on me quite a bit. You don't have to use it either. No one is twisting your arm.
[01:02] <sckssssss> lol, yeah, you are right
[01:02] <sckssssss> i'll just stop using it
[01:02] <_helios_> sckssssss: there's plenty of flavors to choose from.
[01:03] <S-USA|Annoyed> Does a Wubi install need to be the same size as the target partition of the HDD you wish to move it to? (wubi-move.sh)
[01:03] <_helios_> S-USA|Annoyed: I wouldn't suggest a Wubi install.
[01:04] <histo> !notunity | sckssssss
[01:04] <histo> S-USA|Annoyed: who wrote wubi-move.sh?
[01:04] <Tellmarch> S-USA|Annoyed, it just needs to be bigger
[01:04] <sckssssss> i have gnome-shell
[01:05] <Jeaton> histo, im running gnome-classic, i guess that is supported here, and previous versions of ubuntu ive ran, it has always stuck it on the indicator tray
[01:05]  * dr_willis suggests running away from wubi
[01:05] <sckssssss> only use it when unity hates me
[01:05]  * _helios_ agrees with dr_willis
[01:05] <Tellmarch> guys, he's precisely trying to run away from wub
[01:05] <Tellmarch> wubi
[01:05] <histo> Jeaton: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:06] <Jeaton> 12.10
[01:06] <Jeaton> anyway, this install, whenever i minimize xchat, it disappears completely, even though the process is still running
[01:06] <histo> Jeaton: How exactly are you running gnome-classic?  Did you install gnome-panel?
[01:06] <histo> Jeaton: Can you bring it back with alt+tab
[01:07] <psomodi> hi everyone
[01:07] <Jeaton> ive never tried alt+tab to see if it works
[01:07] <asdad5a> hi
[01:07] <asdad5a> how i can make the cube
[01:07] <psomodi> anybody with experience with via chrome9 gpu's?
[01:07] <asdad5a> with alt+tab xubuntu
[01:07] <psomodi> i cant boot live cd... :S
[01:07] <asdad5a> why?
[01:07] <asdad5a> what appear?
[01:07] <Jeaton> anyway, i just switched it over to gnome classic under session when I did a fresh install
[01:08] <psomodi> i get black screen before ubuntu 12.10 and four dots screen
[01:08] <dr_willis> asdad5a: the cube is a compiz feature.
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> (TEST)
[01:08] <LaserShark> (echo)
[01:08] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica: pass
[01:09] <grimeton> hi
[01:09] <asdad5a> i got that trouble with amd hd6520g
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis, LaserShark: (Thank you, I was having connection issues.)
[01:09] <Jeaton> no, alt+tab isn't working
[01:09] <asdad5a> when you poweron your pc
[01:09] <grimeton> either i have some trouble with my filesystem or somebody put a file with utf-8 into the package tree
[01:09] <asdad5a> appear the grub
[01:09] <grimeton> the readline-common package has a lot of utf-8 stuff in it
[01:09] <grimeton> and apt-get errors out
[01:09] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | asdad5a
[01:09] <asdad5a> and you need to edit something and agree some words that i cant remember and it work
[01:10] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: you know, you could just do /whois SonikkuAmerica
[01:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: True enough... it said I wasn't connected before. A couple of people think it's floodbot ban magic.
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Anyway: I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)
[01:12] <YueFairchild> I'm having trouble with installing xubuntu from a live cd.
[01:13] <YueFairchild> Whenever the installer gets to the part where it loads the webcam to take a user picture, it displays garbage characters in the webcam window, then says it reached an unrecoverable error.
[01:13] <YueFairchild> What am I doing wrong?
[01:13] <sazpaimon_> how do I make it so alt+tab switches between all windows, instead of grouping by applications?
[01:13] <sazpaimon_> Ubuntu 12.10 BTW
[01:14] <Tellmarch> YueFairchild, ubuntu is doing something wrong, not you :-)
[01:14] <escott> YueFairchild, thats fun. can you disable the webcam?
[01:15] <YueFairchild> I don't know linux so well. Is that possible, from the live CD?
[01:15] <escott> YueFairchild, the easiest would be to unplug it but if it is built in thats harder
[01:15] <YueFairchild> Built-in, I'm afraid. It's a laptop.
[01:16] <Lucenut> Hey guys, I'm a newb with xubuntu. I like it but can't figure out how to connect to my local network/windows shares.
[01:16] <PackOfHighly> Anyone know why booting to a live USB and selecting the first option on the  boot menu to start a live session would just start the boot menu over again?
[01:16] <YueFairchild> Escott, is it okay if I PM you?
[01:16] <dr_willis> sazpaimon_: i belive thers a stting in compiz via the ccsm tool for that. i think i saw a guide on that tweak at    askubuntu.com
[01:16] <escott> YueFairchild, if you ctrl-alt-f1 and login at the console you can "sudo lsmod | grep v4l" and that should list something. then "sudo rmmod <<the word with v4l on the left>>"
[01:17] <escott> YueFairchild, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to the gui
[01:17] <witheld> Okay, Ubuntu has a package called libwebkitgtk-1.0-0. It also has a package called libwebkitgtk-3.0. Both of these have the exact same description. The newest version of webkitgtk(according to webkitgtk.org), is 1.11.5. I'm confused
[01:17] <sazpaimon_> dr_willis, I assigned alt tab to "Key to flip through windows in the switcher", but that makes it so alt+tab is essentially alt+`
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> PackOfHighly: Probably either a recursive call in the menu, or something got nutsed up when you downloaded the ISO in the first place.
[01:18] <escott> YueFairchild, alternately "sudo rmmod videodev" but I dont want to make assumptions about what device module it is
[01:18] <YueFairchild> Ummm.
[01:18] <arcadia> Hello?
[01:18] <YueFairchild> Can I PM you? I'm not getting a console.
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> arcadia: Hello!
[01:19] <Lucenut> Actually I guess I have Xfce. How do I connect to my local network windows shares?
[01:19] <Tellmarch> Lucenut, first answer in http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ ?
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> >>> I'm planning on migrating a Wubi install to a physical partition via the wubi-move.sh script. Do the Wubi install and the physical partition have to be the same size for it to work correctly? (Currently, Wubi < physical partition)
[01:20] <YueFairchild> I typed sudo lsmod | grep v4lm and nothing happened
[01:20] <Tellmarch> SonikkuAmerica, then you're fine
[01:20] <escott> YueFairchild, alternately you could boot the livecd and select try ubuntu then remove the module, then click the install ubuntu button
[01:20] <arcadia> I need to ask your advice on something. If thats okay and ofcourse youre not busy and all :D
[01:20] <Tellmarch> SonikkuAmerica, it checks the size for you anyway
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Tellmarch: Thanks! (I've been waiting all day for an answer)
[01:20] <PackOfHighly> SonikkuAmerica: the md5sum checks out and I didn't make any changes to the boot menu.  It's what comes on ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:20] <escott> YueFairchild, its preferred to keep the conversation in channel in case someone else sees something im missing
[01:20] <YueFairchild> Oh, okay
[01:22] <mlimb> hi all- does anyone use virtualenvwrapper here?
[01:22] <sayd> yup
[01:22] <mlimb> i'm trying to locate my virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file
[01:22] <YueFairchild> I'm going to try disabling the module from the Xubuntu UI.
[01:22] <YueFairchild> How do I do that?
[01:22] <mlimb> and been looking up linux commands to do one, but having difficulty
[01:22] <Lucenut> "Yes, using Gigolo. If you are not able to see the network check if gvfs-backends is installed."
[01:22] <Lucenut> How do I do that?
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: do you know where your virtualenvwrapper_bashrc file is located?
[01:23] <escott> YueFairchild, the module is either going to be videodev or something related to v4l
[01:23] <sayd> mlimb: looking
[01:23] <YueFairchild> But...
[01:23] <YueFairchild> How do I GET TO the module?
[01:23] <mlimb> when I do locate 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' or find -name 'virtualenvwrapper_bashrc' I don't get any output
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: thanks
[01:23] <sayd> mlimb: youre talking abuot the file youre supposed to source in .{bash|zsh}login right
[01:23] <mlimb> sayd: yep
[01:23] <escott> YueFairchild, with lsmod the stuff on the left is the module, the stuff on the right depends on the stuff on the left. so lsmod | grep v4l will show you the v4l module, you probably have videodev attached to that and uvcvideo or whatever actual camera driver attached to videodev.
[01:24] <sayd> mine is /usr/local/share/python/virtualenvwrapper.sh
[01:24] <sayd> im not sure where you got that filename
[01:24] <fbdystang> escott, I figured out the file and deleted it. I found the problem with the logs being huge = vino-server. can I just reinstall vino-server to get it running again?
[01:24] <escott> YueFairchild, the actual command to remove modules is "sudo rmmod module-name"
[01:24] <mlimb> i got it from this link http://www.doughellmann.com/articles/pythonmagazine/completely-different/2008-05-virtualenvwrapper/index.html
[01:24] <escott> fbdystang, you can also periodically remove that file
[01:24] <mlimb> sayd: what command do you recommend for finding file or directory on linux??
[01:25] <mlimb> that you have no idea where it is
[01:25] <sayd> which
[01:25] <sayd> locate, whence, whereis
[01:25] <escott> fbdystang, there is probably a way you could redirect xsession errors to /dev/null on a specific application basis which might be the best workaround
[01:25] <sayd> find
[01:25] <mlimb> sayd: if you don't get any output does it mean it doesn't exist??
[01:26] <sayd> find . -name foo*.c
[01:26] <arcadia> I am new to linux and messing with ubuntu. Most of the time, i am encountering errors that is not familiar with me. I need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.
[01:26] <sayd> mlimb: no those w* commands all search the PATH
[01:26] <dr_willis> locate uses a database thats updated tegullary
[01:26] <fbdystang> escott, I had done that previously but it looks like it broke on an update or something. I also created a directory with the same name so it couldn't write to it. Broke again. I found the reason the logs were growing and it is fixed. However, vino-server does not work, any ideas?
[01:27] <escott> fbdystang, not really
[01:27] <mlimb> sayd: you're saying that all the w* commands only search within the path, so files not in the path wont' be detected, right?
[01:27] <sayd> yep mlimb
[01:27] <elisa87> What should I do? unable to find program 'java' on your PATH
[01:28] <mlimb> sayd: but what does it mean if you don't get any return stmt? after i type any of the above commands with virtualenvwrapper_bashrc i don't get any output
[01:28] <sayd> you can use find from the root with sudo to search all the things
[01:28] <dr_willis> install java
[01:28] <dr_willis> !java
[01:28] <mlimb> sayd: ok but that would probably take more time I assume
[01:28] <sayd> mlimb: sudo find / -name virtualenvwrapper*
[01:28] <fbdystang> escott, it looks like a simple restart fixed vino-server. Wow. Thanks for the help :)
[01:29] <arcadia> Hello
[01:29] <arcadia> mind if i ask something?
[01:29] <sayd> mlimb: did you install recently?
[01:29] <sayd> follow the docs here: and make sure you have the env vars set: http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html
[01:29] <histo> sayd: whynot use locate
[01:29] <sayd> it looks like the _bashrc is from 1.x
[01:30] <sayd> histo: i told him about locate
[01:31] <Lucenut> OK, so I enter my Server name in Gigolo, then it asks for share and I enter the share name which is "wwwroot" and username "Greg".
[01:31] <Lucenut> But it won't connect.
[01:31] <histo> mlimb: locate filename   If it's something recently installed sudo updatedb first  to update slocates database
[01:31] <Bray90820> Anyone around to help me fix my charging problem on my dell insperon duo
[01:31] <Bray90820> every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[01:32] <Lucenut> It pops up a dialog asking for Domain and password.
[01:32] <paws> how can i monitor my RAM to see which process is taking up ram... it keeps going higher and higher.. and my ram never goes any lower
[01:32] <elisa87> dr_willis which java? oracle java or sun java?
[01:32] <Lucenut> I tried WORKGROUP and then my pw but no worky.
[01:32] <sayd> paws: top
[01:32] <Tellmarch> elisa87, oracle bought sun
[01:33] <Tellmarch> so it's the same
[01:33] <escott> paws, what possible benefit is there to having ram usage go down?
[01:33] <mlimb> sayd: yep that worked!
[01:33] <paws> sayd: top sorts the processes by CPU how can sort it by RAM
[01:33] <escott> !atemyram
[01:33] <Bray90820> Sun almost bought apple once
[01:33] <histo> paws: you can use top or nmon or ps
[01:33] <escott> paws, ^^^
[01:33] <mlimb> sayd: o I'm not him
[01:33] <paws> escott: when i reach 90s% i want it to go down :)
[01:33] <sayd> paws: oram
[01:33] <fbdystang> temp
[01:34] <escott> paws, then i'm glad you don't write operating systems
[01:34] <mlimb> histo: o that helps too thanks
[01:34] <sayd> actually not sure what the command is to sort by ram in ubuntu's top
[01:35] <sayd> in osx you can use 'o' in the app to change the ordering
[01:35] <arcadia> I need to somewhat restore the current state of my ubuntu like nothing happened so that i can do trial and error. I tried google and the best answer i got is to clone my partition, I need your advice.
[01:35] <sayd> paws: f
[01:36] <histo> paws: make sure you read the linuxatemyram.com  page
[01:38] <Lucenut> What do I put for domain when trying to connect to windows shares with Gigolo? I tried WORKGROUP.
[01:39] <histo> sayd: you can use the > key to move forward through the column sorts. and < to go back
[01:40] <histo> or press the n key
[01:40] <sayd> histo: thx
[01:40] <deadmund> Using wireshark, what is this traffic I see going to "daisy.ubuntu.com" ?
[01:41] <sayd> histo is there a way to know what the current sort is?
[01:41] <sayd> there is no visual cue with using >?
[01:42] <dr_willis> htop is a little easier to use
[01:43] <elisa87> Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file
[01:43] <escott> YueFairchild, any progress?
[01:43] <SunMoonStar> Hi all. I want to install this font and am having trouble. http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html Fristly I don't know which file type to get. It offers otf and psa and something else. I tried to download the OTF one and in the ubuntu font viewer I clicked Install. However, it said install failed.
[01:43] <Random832> SunMoonStar: try putting the file in your ~/.fonts directory (make the directory if it doesn't exist)
[01:44] <SunMoonStar> Random832: and that is all?
[01:44] <Random832> i said try it - i make no guarantees it will work
[01:44] <Random832> the OTF is probably the file you want though
[01:44] <histo> sayd: turning color mode on with z you can see
[01:44] <YueFairchild> Sorry!
[01:44] <histo> sayd: or if you use b possibly
[01:44] <YueFairchild> This is my mom's laptop, soooo she decided she'd use my computer.
[01:44] <escott> SunMoonStar, spin around clockwise three times and chant "i think it will work, i think it will work, i think it will work"
[01:45] <escott> SunMoonStar, you might have to logout, but with any basic ttf that should be sufficient
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> wow that worked
[01:45] <histo> sayd: type x then b
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> haha
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> thanks guys
[01:45] <YueFairchild> So...What am I doing, exactly?
[01:45] <YueFairchild> To disable the webcam from the live CD?
[01:45] <sayd> histo: nice
[01:45] <histo> sayd: I'm just quickly browsing hte man pages there are tons of options. I just use nmon or htop
[01:45] <SunMoonStar> I'm not sure if it worked because of ~/.fonts or because I spun around 3 times
[01:45] <escott> YueFairchild, well you have to get to a terminal, and then find and remove the appropriate module
[01:46] <YueFairchild> Okay. How do I get to a terminal?
[01:46] <YueFairchild> Ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:46] <sayd> yeah, i was looking at ntop too
[01:46] <histo> sayd: htop is a lot nicer.  nmon is more of an overall tool. not pid specific.
[01:46] <Bray90820> on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[01:46] <genii-around> YueFairchild: More importantly, don't forget how to return to the desktop:  alt-F7
[01:47] <histo> Bray90820: What from acpi freaking out?  Have yout ried search askubuntu or the forums for your model + version of ubunut?
[01:47] <YueFairchild> heh.
[01:47] <escott> YueFairchild, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695359/
[01:47] <YueFairchild> Okay.
[01:47] <elisa87> dr_willis Why do I have this error ? hpcviewer: cannot execute binary file
[01:47] <YueFairchild> I'm at a terminal.
[01:47] <Bray90820> i have tried ubuntu forums and everyone is saying that dell themselves have to fix it but on some ubuntu based distros such as JollyOS it works fine
[01:48] <escott> YueFairchild, so "lsmod | grep vid" and figure out what one is the camera
[01:48] <Bray90820> if i disable acpi it works correctly tho
[01:48] <histo> YueFairchild: why are you trying to disable the webcam?
[01:48] <YueFairchild> Because the installer crashes.
[01:48] <dr_willis> elisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalis
[01:48] <escott> histo, kernel panic on install
[01:48] <YueFairchild> Anyway, all I got was
[01:48] <histo> ahh
[01:48] <YueFairchild> >videodev 95841 1 gspca_main
[01:48] <histo> that's odd
[01:48] <dr_willis> elisa87: file is not executable or currupted. or invalid script file
[01:48] <YueFairchild> >video 18847 1 1915
[01:48] <YueFairchild> That's all I got.
[01:48] <histo> YueFairchild: lsmod | grep vid | pastebinit
[01:48] <escott> YueFairchild, the gspca_main is probably the one you want
[01:49] <YueFairchild> So...What do I type to disable gspca_main?
[01:49] <escott> YueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gscpa_main"
[01:49] <escott> YueFairchild, "sudo rmmod gspca_main"
[01:49] <Bray90820> histo i think acpi is freaking out
[01:50] <escott> YueFairchild, and hopefully it doesn't get reprobed later.
[01:50] <histo> Bray90820: So it's an issue with whatever kernel you are running and your hardware if others are fine.
[01:50] <histo> Bray90820: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:50] <YueFairchild> ERROR: Module gspca_main is in use by gspca_vc032x
[01:50] <Bray90820> 12.04 x64
[01:50] <escott> YueFairchild, then remove the gspca_vc032x then gspca_main
[01:50] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I convert a C++ program into .exe binary?
[01:50] <Bray90820> and it has happened on all previous versions of ubuntu as well
[01:50] <escott> elisa87, g++
[01:51] <histo> Bray90820: You could try running a newer kernel and see if it solves your issue
[01:51] <YueFairchild> I think it worked.
[01:51] <dr_willis> elisa87: you compile code. and windows uses. exe  not linux
[01:52] <psomodi> Hi, do you know how to start openchrome drivers at grub menu?
[01:52] <Bray90820> histo if i run this code it seems to fix it
[01:52] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EdJu3HXb
[01:52] <histo> Bray90820: although I believe they just added the quantal kernel to precise with 12.04.2
[01:52] <Bray90820> but i think that just turns ACPI off
[01:52] <escott> YueFairchild, lsmod | grep gspca should be blank
[01:52] <YueFairchild> Here we go. :x
[01:52] <elisa87> dr_willis:  sorry I have this .C file and I don't know how to turn it into .exe binary ?! with gcc
[01:52] <escott> YueFairchild, then try the install. hopefully it works. if it does you will want to blacklist those modules after the install
[01:52] <YueFairchild> Let's see if it crashes again.
[01:53] <histo> Bray90820: I'm not sure perhaps someone else will.
[01:53] <YueFairchild> I think it worked!
[01:53] <Bray90820> Anyone else :)
[01:53] <YueFairchild> IT WORKED!
[01:53] <YueFairchild> Thank you so much, everyone?
[01:54] <Bray90820> Also if i close the cover and then plug/unplug the charger i don't get the panic
[01:54] <escott> YueFairchild, do lookup modules blacklists
[01:55] <escott> YueFairchild, you just need a file in /etc/modprobe.d that contains "blacklist gspcs-blah-blah
[01:55] <escott> YueFairchild, and maybe an update-initramfs
[01:56] <cagrijost> hello guys, anyone know about the ubuntu installer=
[01:56] <cfhowlett> !anyone|cagrijost,
[01:57] <cagrijost> sorry :-( my installer wont detect anything on my 3tb harddisk on the laptop. it shows an empty harddisk
[02:00] <escott> cagrijost, brand new laptop with windows 7?
[02:00] <cagrijost> brand new with win 7, but upgraded to win 8
[02:00] <escott> cagrijost, interesting. can you paste the output of "sudo parted -l"
[02:01] <escott> !paste | cagrijost
[02:01] <pooltable> when i am chose from two grafix cards is core clock speeed the main factor on the fastest ??
[02:01] <escott> pooltable, no
[02:02] <cagrijost>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10  	  Number  Start  End  Size  File system  Name  Flags   Model: Integral Courier (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 16,0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos  Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags  1      4129kB  16,0GB  16,0GB  primary  fat32        boot, lba
[02:02] <cagrijost> okay.. that was bad
[02:02] <pooltable> escott how do i know?
[02:02] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695465/
[02:03] <escott> cagrijost, its not even showing the disk. that is exciting
[02:03] <pooltable> escott not sure on amd which is 21 more money or nvida?
[02:03] <cagrijost> sorry my bad
[02:03] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695478/
[02:03] <escott> cagrijost, gotta love MSFT they really screwed that one up
[02:04] <cagrijost> what is msft :b
[02:04] <psusi> what do you mean not showing the disk?
[02:04] <escott> cagrijost, so rodsbooks.com is going to be something you will want as a reference
[02:04] <escott> cagrijost, assuming that windows boots it appears that your win7->win8 transition introduced a blank gpt table onto the disk but did not invalidate the existing msdos table
[02:04] <pooltable> or any other grafix card compare site help ???
[02:04] <dr_willis> !compile | elisa87
[02:05] <escott> cagrijost, on top of that an msdos table won't support your 3tb disk
[02:05] <psusi> escott, why do you say that?
[02:05] <psusi> escott, he didn't show the disk in question in his paste
[02:05] <asdff> hello all.. quick question.. anyone who has a acer c7 chrubuntu installed, is apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade safe or will it break anything? anything i should know?
[02:05] <mega1> is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in
[02:05] <escott> psusi, i was responding to the first paste
[02:05] <dr_willis> asdff:  chrubuntu?
[02:05] <elisa87> a .o is considered an application or only a .exe ?
[02:06] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, chrome buntu??
[02:06] <SolarisBoy> really?
[02:06] <dr_willis> elisa87:  the  extension .exe is for windows. not linux
[02:06] <psusi> escott, I must have missed it, where's that?
[02:06] <cagrijost> psusi: the installer says i got no existing OS on my drive etc. and when it press the "do something else" button, then it shows one big 3tb partition
[02:06] <dr_willis> elisa87:  a file in linux is executable it it has the executable bit set
[02:06] <psusi> cagrijost, and what does parted -l show?
[02:06] <YueFairchild> Uhhh.
[02:06] <YueFairchild> It restarted and all I see is a black screen.
[02:06] <cagrijost> escott: you sure? because the win8 was a clean install, i whiped everything etc
[02:06] <escott> cagrijost, for your system the configuration i would want is a gpt table with a bios boot. that means you need to use "gdisk" to zap the gpt structures, then convert the existing msdos table to a gpt table, then add a grub_bios partition of 1MB or so, and then install ubuntu
[02:06] <asdff> chrubuntu = chromebooks ubuntu
[02:07] <YueFairchild> Did I break something?
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, well it did something wrong
[02:07] <escott> !nomodeset | YueFairchild
[02:07] <dr_willis> asdff:  update/upgrade/distupgrade should be safe - Upgradeing to the next RELEASE may be a problem
[02:07] <mega1> is there a command to see whos using the ftp when they loged in, on ubuntu server 12.04
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, you should NOT have a gpt table that is empty
[02:07] <escott> cagrijost, ubuntu is entirely in the right claiming that disk is blank
[02:08] <psusi> escott, actually, it isn't...
[02:08] <escott> cagrijost, i imagine "sudo fdisk -l" will show your windows partitions
[02:08] <cagrijost> escott: but any disk partition application on windows says otherwise
[02:08] <costin> how do i find out where an application in launcher has its icon?
[02:08] <psusi> escott, if a fresh MBR has been placed on the disk with "normal" partitions on it, the gpt is invalid and should be ignored... earlier versions of parted were buggy in this regard
[02:08] <dr_willis> costin:  its  defined in the apps .desktop file
[02:08] <dr_willis> costin:  ie:   gedit.desktop
[02:09] <psusi> cagrijost, what did parted -l show? I only saw one pastebin link and it was edited to only show your flash drive
[02:09] <escott> psusi, if you are putting an msdos table on the disk you should clear the gpt
[02:09] <costin> dr_willis: it doesn't have a desktop file
[02:09] <costin> dr_willis: i'm really intrigued where it got this icon
[02:10] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/
[02:10] <elisa87> dr_willis is sample.o considered to be an application in Linux? gcc sample.c -o sample -lm
[02:10] <psusi> escott, maybe, but you don't have to... the EFI standard says if there isn't a type ee protective partition listed in the MBR, you ignore any gpt
[02:10] <costin> dr_willis: the application is drawterm
[02:10] <asdff> i wonder why when i open my laptop monitor up polkitd comes and makes my 2h battery times 45 minutes, everytime. iv read rm -rf .pulse and .dbus would fix but not here
[02:10] <asdff> taking up all the cpu usage
[02:11] <b35u> hi all -- anyone familiar with ubuntu installations in virtualbox?
[02:11] <cfhowlett> b35u, yes.
[02:11] <Fishscene> b35u: Is there a specific question you had?
[02:11] <escott> psusi, alright
[02:12] <b35u> os x host, installed 12.10 64-bit mostly without issue.  uninstalled due to sluggish x interface, heard 12.04 would be better.
[02:12] <escott> cagrijost, in any case what you need to do is straightforward and annoying. install gdisks to start. zap gpt, convert mbr to gpt, add a grub_bios partition, install ubuntu
[02:12] <danielboston26> has anyone tried out ubuntu for nexus 7?
[02:12] <jagginess> anyone want to try a potential issue (bash), "le" starts up with "fc" (an internal bash command), there's nothing binded to fc ("type fc<enter" nothing, which fc, ) , however "fc -l" works as expected..   > issue is typing "fc<enter>" starts up the 'le' editor with 'fc text on the buffer.. lol
[02:12] <psusi> escott, that's probably going to break his windows
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !tablet|danielboston26,
[02:13] <escott> psusi, no it wont
[02:13] <cagrijost> escott: wouldnt that delete my win8?
[02:13] <pooltable> what is g3d mards on grafix card?
[02:13] <escott> psusi, done it many times
[02:13] <pooltable> marks
[02:13] <cfhowlett> b35u, lagginess?  ram ... more ram, less lag
[02:13] <escott> cagrijost, only problem it might cause if if your uefi decides to change the boot mode from bios emulation to efi boot
[02:14] <b35u> well, the issue is with the 12.04 install -- after installation finishes, i get the low-graphics mode error, which is fine, but i can never get the CLI to load at all.
[02:14] <b35u> can't do an apt-get update, can't install guest additions.
[02:14] <escott> psusi, and if he doesn't do it he is wasting 0.80TB of his disk
[02:15] <cfhowlett> b35u, boot into text mode?
[02:15] <psusi> escott, so fdisk shows his working windows partition but parted shows a valid, but empty gpt?  that is very odd
[02:15] <cagrijost> escott: i got the disk split in 2, so i get the 0,80 TB :b
[02:15] <b35u> cfhowlett, not sure how through virtualbox... would love to try
[02:16] <escott> cagrijost, split in two?
[02:16] <pooltable> what is g3d marks on grafix card?
[02:16] <Sir_Leto> Anyone know how I would fix this? I installed xubuntu on a parition on my second hard drive, but the MBR wasn't over written
[02:16] <cfhowlett> b35u, see   http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[02:16] <Sir_Leto> so when I try to boot that drive, the old windows boot options show up even though windows isn't on that drive
[02:16] <escott> cagrijost, maybe that is your problem if you are doing something exotic with the disk
[02:17] <cfhowlett> Sir_Leto, you have to tell grub where the bootable disk is  then run sudo update-grub
[02:17] <cagrijost> escott: so, the plan is: move everything from my 0,8tb drive to the 2,2. and then convert?
[02:18] <psusi> escott, I assume he means partitioned.  technically MBR can have a partition that starts just before 2TB, then runs for another 2TB to get nearly 4 TB
[02:18] <cagrijost> hmm
[02:18] <cagrijost> its like a c and d drive
[02:19] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I find the package where mpirun is there mpirun hpcrun -t -e RETCNT -e WALLCLOCK@1 sample.o
[02:19] <costin> how do i get the desktop file corresponding to a launcher icon?
[02:19] <cagrijost> escott && psusi: (dont know if that work) i can browse the 2.2 part of my harddisk on ubuntu, if that clears anything up
[02:20] <escott> psusi, i've never heard of that and fdisk does not show that
[02:20] <psusi> cagrijost, where is the parted -l output?
[02:20] <escott> cagrijost, psusi end of sda2 is at<PHONE_NUMBER>*512/1000/1000/1000/1000=2.19902TB
[02:21] <elisa87> dr_willis do you think this would help me ? for mpirun? sudo aptitude install mpich-bin mpich-mpd-bin mpich-shmem-bin libmpich1.0-dev
[02:21] <escott> cagrijost, psusi you are only using 4.... out of the<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors on sda
[02:21] <cagrijost> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695527/
[02:22] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, is the other partition hidden somehow?
[02:22] <Spec[x]> Hi. Anyone know how I can tell which protocol my wireless connection is using? (802.11 g vs n..etc) ?
[02:22] <kaushal> Hi
[02:23] <Sir_Leto> cfhowlett: Would just changing the drive flags in gparted work?
[02:23] <kaushal> Are there any project planning software available in Ubuntu?
[02:23] <cagrijost> tellmarch: i don't know why linux wont see it.  when i installed win 8, i forgot about my 3.0 tb, so i formatted it as MBR. then i found out later, and used a partition program to somehow make another disk with the unallocated space
[02:23] <cfhowlett> Sir_Leto, only 1 bootable drive and that's where grub should be installed ... yes
[02:23] <Tellmarch> did you check a "hid partition" option in that partition program? :p
[02:23] <Tellmarch> hide*
[02:23] <cagrijost> its not hidden :b
[02:23] <kaushal> for example divide the entire project and plan and assign it to specific people
[02:24] <cagrijost> it works fine on win8, and i checked it to see if it was hidden, and it wasnt
[02:24] <escott> cagrijost, its not visible to us. there are two partitions using only 2.2TB of the 3TB disk (as expected)
[02:24] <Sir_Leto> also, can I shrink my ext4 partition? I didn't want to make swap partition at the time, but then I thought I might need it.
[02:24] <colonelqubit> How can I determine what protocol my printer driver is using to communicate? If choose "HP LaserJet 4 Plus - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.8-pre1" -- is that a postscript driver?
[02:25] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, i guess it's because you used GPT?
[02:25] <psusi> cagrijost, that is the fdisk output, not parted... and yea, it does only show 2TB used
[02:25] <Sir_Leto> I guess not, there isn't an option in gparted
[02:26] <Tellmarch> have you tried seeing the partitions in linux with gparted ?
[02:26] <escott> Tellmarch, it will show the parted output which is an empty gpt table
[02:26] <jagginess> cagrijost, shows how to partition drive as GPT (and without using EFI bios -- because you need a special grub partition for GPT) https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkjr4l5aFdzqOQPtvX6VtXdSFpxWWWrR-
[02:27] <mogaj> I am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?
[02:27] <pooltable> looking for a good grafix card compre web site ???
[02:27] <cfhowlett> !hardware|pooltable,
[02:28] <ubuntu_user> how to find the public ip address of ubuntu machine?
[02:28] <frostb1te> Anyone know why my HDMI isnt working
[02:28] <Sir_Leto> ifconfig?
[02:28] <Sir_Leto> ubuntu_user: ifconfig?
[02:28] <frostb1te> if someone is willing to help ill send them my results from lspci | grep VGA
[02:29] <cfhowlett> ubuntu_user, whatismyip.com
[02:29] <ubuntu_user> ifconfig -a displays private IP.
[02:29] <ubuntu_user> i need from command line
[02:29] <frostb1te> I might just go back too windows :(
[02:29] <psomodi> Hi, anybody with experience in openchrome video driver?
[02:29] <luckybunny> why would you do something so silly?
[02:30] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: the machine you're currently on?
[02:30] <frostb1te> I cant get my hdmi working
[02:30] <luckybunny> frostb1te: have you installed the driver for your gfx card?
[02:30] <frostb1te> i tried
[02:30] <frostb1te> said xserver is already being used
[02:31] <frostb1te> i followed like 20 instructions and none worked
[02:31] <cagrijost> let me find a screenshot from the install
[02:31] <luckybunny> hmm
[02:31] <ubuntu_user> Spec[x], some remote machine
[02:31] <luckybunny> was one of those instructions to go to software sources and hit 'additional' drivers?
[02:31] <ubuntu_user> it is a headless server and i need the remote ip address on that ubuntu machine
[02:31] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: you could sign onto irc and do /whois, or you could wget a website like 'whatsmyip.org'/etc
[02:32] <Spec[x]> ubuntu_user: or you could wget a different webserver and tail logs...etc
[02:32] <cagrijost> jagginess tellmarch psusi escott: http://imagebin.org/247510
[02:32] <nargit> When you do apt-get update, does it download all package info or only new packages or packages with a newer version?
[02:33] <mogaj> I am using ubuntu 12.10 ... am not able to change desktop backhround! when i try to right click and choose change background i am shown system settings not an option to change background ... what should i do to change background?
[02:33] <cagrijost> and here's one where it says it didnt see the partition:
[02:33] <cagrijost> http://imagebin.org/247511
[02:33] <Tellmarch> what program did you use to create the partition?
[02:34] <csehl> what does "Device for bootloader installation" mean in the graphical 12.10 installation? Is that the location that grub will be installed to or ubuntu will be installed to?
[02:34] <cagrijost> http://www.partitionwizard.com/landing-page.html?gclid=CPTF18euxrUCFQF8cAodnmEAxQ
[02:34] <psusi> cagrijost, that's nice, but where is the parted -l output?
[02:35] <cagrijost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1695711/
[02:35] <luckybunny> guys I'm having some weirdness. I attempted to download something too big for my /home partition today. I stopped doing that, then deleted about 30GB of other stuff, and emptied all my rubbish bins and the trash folder.... now I suddenly have no space
[02:35] <newbrict> I have an error with chromium, when i try to open it i get "no protocol specified" could someone help me fix this?
[02:36] <psusi> cagrijost, then yea, you originally set up MBR, which isn't using the whole disk, and that program just stupidly added a useless, empty, invalid gpt
[02:36] <frostb1te> Anyone good with computers and fixing stuff here lol
[02:37] <cagrijost> psusi: so i guess its a fresh windows reinstall and then ubnutu?
[02:37] <Tellmarch> i'd format the whole disk first :p
[02:37] <cagrijost> psusi: or can i save it by deleting the disk
[02:38] <psusi> cagrijost, you can try using gdisk to zap the bogus gpt, and convert the mbr to gpt like escot said
[02:39] <escott> cagrijost, worst case if windows doesn't boot because it doesn't like to have a bios boot on a gpt disk you can just make it a hybrid
[02:40] <cfhowlett> luckybunny, clean out your cache??  apt-get clean  and maybe apt-get autoremove
[02:40] <escott> cagrijost, but don't use windows partitioning tools anymore
[02:40] <luckybunny> done already
[02:40] <cfhowlett> luckybunny, reboot ...
[02:41] <luckybunny> interestingly, disk usage analyser says I'm full, system monitor says I'm full, and nautilus says I have about 100GB free (but 0 bytes available)
[02:42] <luckybunny> "75,664 items, totalling 141.5 GB" when the partition is about 300GB like 300GB
[02:43] <escott> luckybunny, there are lots of ways applications can miscount. "df -h" gives the most reliable answer on most filesystems
[02:43] <rj1> hi...does anyone here know why my firefox can't open a phtml file?
[02:44] <luckybunny> that's even more confusing
[02:44] <escott> luckybunny, since nautilus is counting items then it is more likely to be wrong (you cannot count files you cannot access so thats one source of error)
[02:44] <luckybunny> "/dev/sdb1       294G  279G   44K 100% /home"
[02:44] <cagrijost> okay, thanks for the help guys. ill try to see if deleting the disk will work. and if that doesnt work then its gdisk :b
[02:44] <escott> luckybunny, thats a full disk (5% is reserved for root with an ext-series filesystem)
[02:45] <cagrijost> btw
[02:45] <cagrijost> what is gdisk?
[02:45] <escott> luckybunny, that leaves 95% of 294GB which is 279GB
[02:45] <escott> cagrijost, a tool for working with gpt partitioned disks. http://www.rodsbooks.com and looking at stuff online it looks like you would need a hybrid table
[02:46] <ekaj> #LXDE isn't too active - would someone be willing to help me troubleshoot the LXDE Gui? After I type the password to log in, I press enter, and the screen goes blank for a few seconds before taking me to the login prompt again. According to this guide ( http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1701 ) I should delete /etc/pam.d/lxde but that file does not exist. /etc/pam.d/lxdm, however, does. Should I delete the LXDM file, or is there something else I can
[02:46] <ekaj> do?
[02:46] <escott> cagrijost, alternately you could try a uefi boot of windows 8 on a gpt disk which brings in a different set of issues. i would go hybrid and never ever use a windows partitioning tool again in my life
[02:47] <cfhowlett> ekaj, can you login with a different DE?
[02:47] <ekaj> Nope
[02:48] <Fishscene> ekaj: Try renaming that file to something like *-backup and then try.
[02:48] <cagrijost> escott: what do you mean by going hybrid
[02:48] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, buy a SSD drive, and install everything on it. you won't need to worry about GPT :p
[02:48] <cagrijost> tellmarch: how much is a 3tb ssd?
[02:48] <Tellmarch> nah, you buy a 128 SSD just for the system, and use the 3TB for data/programs
[02:48] <Fishscene> LOL
[02:49] <Tellmarch> for 70$ you'll have a much faster computer :-)
[02:49] <cagrijost> i know ssd is better, but my ubuntu wont recognize my 3tb, so why would that make a difference
[02:49] <cagrijost> if i had an aditional 128 gb ssd or not
[02:49] <Tellmarch> the problem isn't the hard drive, it's the way it's formatted
[02:50] <ekaj> Fishscene, : I get mv: cannot move 'lxdm' to 'lxdm-backup': Read-only filesystem... I had this error before (I think) when trying to wipe passwords, and I had to mount /, but I don't remember the syntax for the command - would you happen to?
[02:50] <cagrijost> anyways
[02:50] <Tellmarch> for 3TB hard drive, you normally need GPT, but windows won't boot on GPT without needing additional things, which is trouble
[02:50] <cagrijost> thanks for the help guys
[02:50] <Tellmarch> the problem is on windows side ^^
[02:51] <joeytwiddle> is the "group windows" feature no longer available in compiz?
[02:51] <Tellmarch> cagrijost, and yeah, my answer to buy a ssd was kinda a troll, sorry about that
[02:51] <escott> cagrijost, the table would have the existing msdos partition table and a matching gpt table that has the extra partitions for linux. when you boot ubuntu it will use the gpt and ignore the bios, when you boot windows it will ignore the gpt and use the msdos
[02:51] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: have a look in /var/log/Xorg.log or any x log files in /tmp or ~
[02:52] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: oh sorry.  try mount -o remount,rw /
[02:52] <ekaj> Did the trick, thanks, going for a reboot now
[02:53] <savagecroc> what's an easy way to encrypt a file on ubuntu?
[02:53] <savagecroc> sorry a directory
[02:53] <savagecroc> preferably with checksum
[02:54] <jagginess> cagrijost, did you see the gpt howto link?
[02:55] <ekaj> Still didn't work -.-
[02:56] <dwarder> guys, am i understand right i just vi /etc/crontab then save it and it works?
[02:57] <ekaj> Uninstall I guess?
[02:57] <dr_willis> should  but you need sudo rights
[02:57] <dr_willis> !cron
[02:58] <joeytwiddle> dwarder: i always thought you should use crontab -e, to ensure he knows to re-read the file
[02:58] <raj> i need help writing a gedit script
[02:58] <psusi> j
[02:59] <dr_willis> !details
[02:59] <ekaj> joeytwiddle: Any further ideas?
[02:59] <raj> I'd like to write a script that indents highlighted text 2 spaces
[02:59] <michael___> Hi anyone here use dwm that can offer a little help
[03:00] <joeytwiddle> ekaj: identify the problem.  is the drive still read-only.  any error messages in those X log files?
[03:00] <sammuchann>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/firefox-aurora
[03:00] <raj> whatcha got for me doc ;)
[03:00] <sammuchann> oops ment to put that in my other terminal
[03:00] <ekaj> Xorg.0.log is where I should be looking?
[03:01] <dr_willis> i use vim. dont recall gedit being scriptable or having macros
[03:01] <dr_willis> geany might.
[03:01] <raj> it does
[03:01] <raj> "external scripts"
[03:01] <ekaj> Ohh lxdm.log...
[03:02] <ekaj> I mean, I don't see anything that says "error"... main;y Message" user 0 session .... cmd USER_LIST, Message: quit code 0, message: exit cb. That's about the extent of the los
[03:02] <ekaj> and free session
[03:04] <Jacob_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.2 on my desktop
[03:05] <Jacob_> I already have Windows 7 and a partition ready for Ubuntu
[03:05] <raj> is it worth updating gedit to 3?
[03:05] <Jacob_> but after installing Ubuntu on the blank partition it won't boot
[03:05] <sammuchann> use pluma its better imo
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> Will steam work with the default open source amd drivers in 12.10?
[03:05] <Sir_Leto> My card is now considered legacy
[03:06] <Sir_Leto> (radeon HD 4670 HD)
[03:06] <Jacob_> It gives me an error message that says "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[03:06] <joeytwiddle> i can only have 1 wallpaper for all 12 desktops?  i don't get why Ubuntu made Compiz worse :-p
[03:06] <sammuchann> Are you installing ubuntu just to get tux in game?
[03:07] <Jacob_> no, I want ubuntu for several reasons
[03:07] <Jacob_> I already have it on my laptop
[03:07] <Jacob_> just an older version of it
[03:07] <ubuntu_user> The command could not be located because '/sbin' is not included in the PATH environment variable.
[03:07] <ubuntu_user> how to add /sbin to PATH variable
[03:07] <savagecroc> so encrypting directories anyone?
[03:08] <dr_willis> tf2 ran on the noveau drivers here.. barely.  got my tux.
[03:08] <Tellmarch> Sir_Leto, I had to install the latest proprietary drivers, steam didn't want to run without them
[03:08] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user: its in the default path.
[03:08] <dr_willis> !path
[03:08] <sammuchann> Lol its funny going online there is a bunch of people that cant figure out how to install a linux distro and are doing it just to get tux.
[03:09] <dr_willis> and they dont know what tux is.....
[03:09] <dr_willis> its not a tuxedo suit.....  ;-)
[03:10] <Jacob_> I've installed and re-installed ubuntu 12.04.2 3 times now!
[03:10] <blackshirt> !find manpages
[03:10] <Jacob_> it still won't boot up after I installed it
[03:11] <blackshirt> !find manpages-id
[03:11] <blackshirt> !find man-pages-id
[03:12] <Bray90820>  on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[03:12] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you need more than one partition for ubuntu... do you mean you have some empty space on the hard drive (without partition)?
[03:13] <Jacob_> yes, i have plenty of empty space for it
[03:13] <Tellmarch> and you just tell the installer to use it?
[03:13] <Jacob_> and I believe ubuntu created 2 partitions when it installed
[03:13] <ubuntu_user> if i ran export PATH=/sbin
[03:14] <Jacob_> a swap partition and an ext4
[03:14] <Jacob_> am i missing a partition?
[03:14] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  your path  would ONLYU be that directory  then
[03:14] <ubuntu_user> will it change the path varibles for already set PATH
[03:14] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, no, it should be ok...
[03:14] <Jacob_> well, it won't boot up ubuntu when I restart
[03:14] <te> Jacob_: Only if you wanted separate /home/
[03:14] <ubuntu_user> how to add /sbin to PATH then without changing the already $PATH
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> Tellmarch: the newest drivers aren't compatible
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  it will only change the path for that shell and any child/spawned shells.
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> so I have to downgrade x.org?
[03:15] <Sir_Leto> and install the old propitary drivers?
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  export foo=$foo;newpaths/added;here/
[03:15] <te> Jacob_: Did you allow grub to be written to MBR of the drive that the PC boots to?
[03:15] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  theres examplkes of this  in the users .profile and .bashrc files
[03:16] <Jacob_> u mean the hard drive for the boot loader?
[03:16] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  and is covered by  most bash guides/tutorials
[03:16] <Sir_Leto> Jacob_: also check to see if the parition ubuntu is installed to has a boot flag
[03:16] <Jacob_> it's the same hard drive as the windows boot is in
[03:16] <dr_willis> are paths ; seperated or : seperated..  i forget.
[03:16] <te> Jacob_: What do you mean "it wont boot up"
[03:16] <dr_willis> echo $PATH should show how its supposed to look
[03:17] <Jacob_> at first it never gave me the option to boot ubuntu
[03:17] <dr_willis> paths are : seperated. my  mistake. ;)   not ;
[03:17] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, what did you do then?
[03:18] <te> Jacob_: Was it the normal screens that boots to MS Windows?
[03:18] <dr_willis> $PATH=$PATH:/new/dir/to/add:/another/dir/to/add
[03:18] <Bon-chan> lmms users here?
[03:18] <Jacob_> yes, the screen that just normally boots to windows
[03:18] <Jacob_> never gave me the option to boot ubuntu
[03:19] <Jacob_> do i need to change the mount point of any of my partitions?
[03:19] <Tellmarch> when do you see the error message that you said then ? "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[03:19] <Jacob_> when i try booting ubuntu
[03:19] <te> Jacob_: You apparently failed to tell grub to write to the MBR of the main drive.
[03:19] <Tellmarch> how are you trying to boot it?
[03:20] <Jacob_> what I did after it wouldn't give me the option of booting ubuntu normally is that i clicked on the iso image for ubuntu in windows and had it put that boot option for installing cd
[03:20] <Tellmarch> uh
[03:21] <Bray90820> on my dell insperon duo netbook every time i plug or unplug the charger i get a kernel panic
[03:21] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  you still got apci disabled?
[03:21] <te> Jacob_: Not sure I understand that last statement.
[03:21] <Bray90820> no
[03:22] <te> Jacob_: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[03:22] <Bray90820> i dont really think disabling ACPI is the way to go
[03:22] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you could try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using_the_Ubuntu_CD_.28Recommended.29
[03:23] <Patman> When I am copying files to or from the server the downloads start out at 100MB per sec…
[03:23] <Patman> When the file (no matter how large) hits the half-way point the process slows down to 12.8 MB
[03:23] <Patman> win7 to samba on Ubuntu 12.04
[03:24] <eN_Joy> 'top' shows 1 stopped process, how do i find that process? thanks
[03:24] <Bray90820> dr_willis were you the one i was talking to about 16 hours ago
[03:24] <te> Jacob_: Is it a UEFI system?
[03:25] <Jacob_> what does the error message "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" mean?
[03:26] <Jacob_> not UEFI, just regular BIOS
[03:26] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  i just rember you having all sort  sof issues on a convertable netbook.  ;)
[03:26] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, i don't understand *when* are you seeing this message
[03:27] <Tellmarch> if you have no option to boot ubuntu
[03:27] <Bray90820> so you didn't tell me to try a boot flag
[03:27] <dr_willis> Bray90820:  nope. I  rarely mess with apci any  more.
[03:27] <Jacob_> i see that message when I try to boot up ubuntu
[03:27] <Jacob_> before ubuntu finishes loading
[03:27] <Tellmarch> so you have a grub menu at boot?
[03:28] <Bray90820> alright
[03:28] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, when you power on your computer, you have the grub menu, asking you to choose between ubuntu and windows?
[03:28] <Jacob_> yes, i do have the grub menu now
[03:28] <Jacob_> but after selecting ubuntu it gives me that error message
[03:29] <Tellmarch> well it's not doing its job properly anyway... so the links we gave you to repair it should still be valid i guess
[03:29] <Tellmarch> did you try?
[03:29] <dr_willis> containgig a live filesystem.. sounds like a message from a Live-usb setup
[03:29] <Jacob_> try boot repair? not yet, i'm about to do that before re-installing ubuntu again
[03:29] <dr_willis> Jacob_:  how exactly are you  installing? booting a cd/live usb?
[03:29] <lvleph> So all of a sudden I cannot connect to my website hosted on my Ubuntu machine. I can't even get there through <IP_ADDRESS> Not sure what is going on.
[03:29] <te> Jacob_: What type of PC is it?  (Processor, RAM, form-factor...)
[03:30] <Jacob_> i boot cd/dvd
[03:30] <lvleph> sudo service apache2 restart didn't help
[03:30] <te> Jacob_: The CD boot up and runs ok?
[03:30] <lvleph> said ok but still can't connect
[03:30] <Jacob_> intel core i7 3.07GHz, 16GB RAM, nVidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti 2GB
[03:30] <Jacob_> yes, cd boots fine
[03:31] <dr_willis> Jacob_:  id try out boot-repair - it sounds like yoru  grub settings are goofed somehow
[03:31] <Jacob_> ok
[03:31] <Jacob_> thanks
[03:31] <Jacob_> i'll let u know if that works after i try it out
[03:31] <Bray90820> 16gb that's a LOT of ram
[03:31] <Jacob_> future proof =D
[03:32] <Bray90820> like 30 years lol
[03:33] <Bray90820> i have had a computer since like 2003 and it has 2gb ram works perfectly fine
[03:33] <te> Jacob_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:33] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, some people have had this message because of a bug on a asus motherboard it seems... if the boot repair doesn't work, maybe that's something to consider?
[03:34] <traptor> the computer I'm currently on is a p4 with 1Gb ram and runs just fine. That's whats great about linux.
[03:34] <Jacob_> yes, i think my motherboard is most likely asus
[03:34] <danielboston26> i need help
[03:35] <Jacob_> can't exactly remember, since i built it about a year ago
[03:35] <danielboston26> ive installed updates for ubuntu 12.10 rebooted now the desktop is gone when it reboots its just a black screen
[03:35] <Jacob_> I like high end specs, cuz I play high end games
[03:35] <danielboston26> the sidebar is there but if i click anything when i think the program launches i don't see anything
[03:35] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, though they have the issue when booting on the live CD... it's strange that you can do that and get the message when booting the hard drive instead...
[03:35] <danielboston26> ive reinstalled xserver and that didn't seem to fix it
[03:36] <danielboston26> is there a bug with a update to xserver?
[03:37] <danielboston26> can someone help?
[03:37] <te> Tellmarch: I think that somehow during Jacob_'s install, grub detected the wrong partition for the root filesystem.
[03:37] <dr_willis> hmm.. my somewhat old system now.. seems to play  most every  game out fine.. sort of hard to  justify a 1500$+ pc for games these days
[03:39] <danielboston26> does anyone know the issue?
[03:39] <Tellmarch> dr_willis, i have a i7 processor with GTX 560 too, 8GB ram and 2TB hard drive, it cost me 800... and it *is* nice to have a good processor etc. when running apps :-)
[03:39] <danielboston26> is there a bug with a update that is causing thsi?
[03:40] <te> Jacob_: Try taking the CD out and then boot.
[03:40] <Jacob_> i've already done that before several times
[03:40] <Jacob_> right now it's installing the boot repair
[03:40] <traptor> danielboston26: did you originally have to install proprietary driver. If so It may need redone.
[03:40] <danielboston26> traptor: no
[03:40] <dr_willis> Tellmarch:  about the same as my 1.5+ yr old system.. only  got a lower end video card. GTS 320 i think. its a bottom end nvidia  card these days. but i   would have to upgrade my PSU if i got a bigger card.. or find a new card that dosent use a lot of powar
[03:40] <te> Jacob_: Ok.  Good.
[03:40] <danielboston26> traptor: im installing ubuntu in a vm
[03:41] <traptor> Ya VM's I know NOTHING about. All my pc's are linux (crunchbang) sorry.
[03:41] <danielboston26> traptor: its weird how i see the sidebar and menu bar but no other gui item
[03:41] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  in a vm, you may wan tto use Lubuntu for your desktop. Unity may  to graphics intenssive
[03:41] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, while you're here, could you copy the output of "cat /proc/partitions" to a online paste?
[03:42] <danielboston26> dr_willis: how do i switch?
[03:42] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop and select lubuntu  at the login screen
[03:42] <Jacob_> from the terminal?
[03:42] <Tellmarch> yes
[03:42] <Tellmarch> just to check later in grub if it doesn't use the right one...
[03:42] <danielboston26> dr_willis: but when i first installed ubuntu it worked
[03:43] <danielboston26> only broke when i rebooted after updates
[03:43] <Jacob_> u mean copy and paste it to here?
[03:43] <Jacob_> or somewhere else?
[03:43] <Tellmarch> to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:43] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  lubuntu  woll be quicker in  a vm.   You  using vbox or vmware  or what?
[03:43] <Jacob_> ok
[03:44] <danielboston26> dr_willis: parallels
[03:44] <ubuntu_user> how to find whether USB is attached to the my ubuntu from command line?
[03:44] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! I want to know about PolicyKit and ConsoleKit. Anyone?
[03:44] <dr_willis> could be some new quirks/bugs with that vm. ive never used it..  havent  really heard about  it in ages..
[03:44] <AlexandreMBM> ubuntu_user, lsusb
[03:44] <dr_willis> i  tend  to use vbox
[03:45] <te> Jacob_: And then, show us the URL
[03:45] <danielboston26> dr_willis: idk but as i said it worked fine till i applied updates but if there was a bug in a update everyone should be having problems
[03:46] <danielboston26> maybe its a update and w/e driver parallels is using
[03:46] <dr_willis> danielboston26:  unless it only affects parrels.
[03:46] <danielboston26> thats causing it
[03:46] <Jacob_> paste.ubuntu.com/1696215/
[03:46] <danielboston26> dr_willis: ya thats what im saying
[03:46] <dr_willis> i rarely  see people in here using Parrells..
[03:46] <danielboston26> if this doesn't work ill try virtualbox
[03:46] <dr_willis> i cant even recall the last time  i saw it mentioned  in here..  or anyuwhere else actually
[03:47] <danielboston26> dr_willis: its the big vm on the mac
[03:47] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, oh you have 3 disks?
[03:47] <danielboston26> dr_willis: also they have spoty linux support in the past
[03:47] <Jacob_> yep
[03:47] <Tellmarch> do you know on which one did you install linux?
[03:48] <danielboston26> dr_willis: i would assume not a lot of mac users wanting to run linux
[03:48] <dr_willis> i see people wanting to  install linux to their macs all the time in here.
[03:48] <danielboston26> dr_willis: oh cool
[03:49] <histo> !mac | danielboston26
[03:49] <RiXtEr> Anyone have an ETA on the Ubuntu Phone OS ?
[03:49] <DJA> teste
[03:49] <danielboston26> dr_willis: i have a newer mac that ubuntu was having issues supporting
[03:49] <histo> !phone | RiXtEr
[03:49] <dr_willis> !phone | RiXtEr
[03:49] <RiXtEr> Thanks guys!
[03:49] <danielboston26> RiXtEr: it was announced today
[03:49] <Jacob_> how long does it normally take for boot repair to install?
[03:50] <danielboston26> RiXtEr: you might check xda to see if anyone is hacking around with it
[03:50] <Jacob_> it's taking an eternity right now
[03:50] <dr_willis> I just dont see the point in having a mac. ;)   but i dont want to sound mean. ;P
[03:50] <dr_willis> the boot repair package is fairly  small. shouldent take more then a few min.
[03:50] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, I've never seen it take a long time...
[03:50] <dr_willis> i wish  they would include it by default on the live dvds
[03:51] <danielboston26> huh still not working.it must be some parallels bug
[03:51] <danielboston26> nothing new
[03:52] <Jacob_> well, for some reason boot repair won't install
[03:52] <Jacob_> i've followed the instructions on that webpage
[03:52] <dr_willis> there is a custome boot-repair iso you  can download and try
[03:52] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you clicked on "recommended repair", and it didn't work?
[03:53] <isaias__> testing
[03:53] <dr_willis> isaias__:  10-4 over and out.
[03:53] <isaias__> anyone get this?
[03:54] <Jacob_> apparently boot repair didn't even install
[03:54] <Jacob_> i tried twice
[03:54] <dr_willis> Jacob_:   via the  terminal?
[03:54] <dr_willis> any errormessages? could  be the ppa is down or somthing
[03:55] <Jacob_> yep
[03:55] <histo> Jacob_: kind of hard for people to help if you don't give details or tell us the errors
[03:55] <histo> !details | Jacob_
[03:56] <Jacob_> i can copy and paste the messages on the terminal
[03:56] <Jacob_> one second
[03:56] <packetfrog> !paste Jacob_
[03:56] <packetfrog> oops
[03:56] <packetfrog> !help
[03:57] <Jacob_> paste.ubuntu.com/1696300
[03:59] <cexpert1> All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?
[03:59] <Tellmarch> Jacob_, you have a program installing packages running apparently
[03:59] <Tellmarch> maybe the main installer?
[03:59] <histo> Jacob_: lsof /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:00] <yazrisal> this morning my network working as usual, but after connecting to Wifi and failed, I can't connect to my wired network anymore, it keeps like searching and identifying something but still always failed. I'm on Ubuntu 12 LTS anyone can help me?
[04:00] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so both wired and wireless are failing?
[04:01] <yazrisal> no just wired, i do not use the wifi anymore now
[04:01] <cexpert1> yazrisal: Which chipset?  Some Intel chipsets you have to disable the "N" mode.
[04:01] <yazrisal> how to detect it?
[04:02] <Jacob_> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[04:02] <cexpert1> yazrisal: "lshw"
[04:02] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so you are using wired networking then. Not wireless..  does ifconfig show you an eth0?
[04:02] <yazrisal> im using Toshiba Satellite L645 which using Intel Core i3 Processor
[04:02] <Jacob_> Output information may be incomplete.
[04:02] <yazrisal> how to execute command lshw here in the XChat windows?
[04:02] <yazrisal> i mean to get the output
[04:03] <cfhowlett> !paste|yazrisal
[04:03] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  paste the output to a pastebin site not here
[04:03] <histo> yazrisal: don't do it here.
[04:03] <yazrisal> yes my eth0 is detected
[04:03] <yazrisal> alright wait
[04:03] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  does it  have an ip address? if so what address?
[04:03] <yazrisal> nope, i set it to automatic
[04:03] <yazrisal> so i don't know
[04:04] <histo> Jacob_: Some other application is trying to install software at the same time or is open. Like software center, update manager, etc...  CLose all those then install boot repair packages
[04:04] <cexpert1> yazrisal: I have Acer Aspire with Intel Chipset.  We had to install KDE as Gnome does not support the chipset and had to disable "N" mode for the wireless to work.  Working good and solid now for 6 months.  Talking via that right now!
[04:04] <dr_willis> ifconfig should show its ip  address.. if it has one
[04:04] <dr_willis> cexpert1:  hes using the wired networking. ;)
[04:04] <Jacob_> neither the software center or update manager r open
[04:04] <dr_willis> and i dont see how what yousaid is possible cexpert1 .. its the kernel/drivers  that support the chipset.. not  KDE/Gnome.
[04:04] <yazrisal> how to disable that "N" mode?
[04:05] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  you  are using a normal WIRED network cable correct? Not wireless?
[04:05] <berserker703> hello
[04:05] <Jacob_> i'm just going to restart my computer and try again
[04:05] <yazrisal> im sorry i just migrate to linux and start to feel comfort with this clean and sleek look Unity :p
[04:05] <yazrisal> so i dont know anything lol
[04:06] <yazrisal> ive restarted and still can't connect
[04:06] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  did you plug in a cable? or are you  using wireless?
[04:06] <iter>  ay ay ay
[04:06] <iter> layer 2 first
[04:07] <iter> yazrisal: do you have a green light where the cable plugs in?
[04:07] <yazrisal> i plugged in a cable
[04:07] <cexpert1> dr_willis: We found the kernal/drivers were more robust with KDE/Kubuntu, so installed that, which worked much better.  Could not even access the chipset before that, not in the native Ubuntu 12.04 livecd install.  We also had to dis-install that total bogus UNITY
[04:07] <cexpert1> BS
[04:07] <iter> do you know how to open a terminal?
[04:07] <yazrisal> yes correct im using normal office network LAN cable
[04:08] <yazrisal> yes i know :p
[04:08] <iter> ok, please open one up and type ifconfig -a
[04:08] <yazrisal> i opened it now and conduse what to do nest xD
[04:08] <dr_willis> yazrisal:  so the ifconfig command shows a eth0 device? does it show an inet addr: line with an ip address?
[04:08] <iter> also type netstat -rn
[04:08] <cexpert1> yazrisal: Sorry for the side dialog!
[04:08] <iter> paste the outputs into pastebin
[04:08] <iter> (if possible)
[04:09] <yazrisal> here is the link to the ifconfig -a output: http://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw
[04:09] <AcidRain> in xchat, how do i change my own text color locally?
[04:09] <AcidRain> its rly hard to see what i have typed
[04:10] <cexpert1> dr_willis: Side Q:  What is the URL to register for IRC?  Keep knocking out my registration, so not able to use native handle.
[04:10] <iter> yazrisal: do you have a usb ethernet device of some sort?
[04:10] <yazrisal> yes i am using it now to chat with you :3
[04:10] <dr_willis> cexpert1:  #freenode channel can helo  with that.
[04:10] <iter> ok very good
[04:10] <yazrisal> then?
[04:10] <iter> so your ethernet does not have an IP address
[04:11] <yazrisal> then what I should do?
[04:11] <iter> try dhclient eth0
[04:11] <yazrisal> ok wait
[04:12] <yazrisal> http://pastebin.com/84ij9fhw
[04:12] <yazrisal> lol, sorry
[04:12] <yazrisal> accidentally pasted, wait
[04:12] <iter> np
[04:12] <yazrisal> yazrisal@yazrisal-Satellite-L645:~$ dhclient eth0
[04:12] <yazrisal> RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
[04:12] <fuzzyghost> I was in here earlier, talking to escott about my terminal snafu (sudo chmod o+rwx /*), and he helped me by telling me that I might be able to fix it by setting octal permissions to 755.
[04:12] <yazrisal> that's what i got
[04:12] <Jacob_> if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?
[04:12] <SolarisBoy> needs some sudo
[04:12] <iter> ok, 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[04:13] <iter> w/o quotes of course
[04:13] <fuzzyghost> I was just wondering how chmod o+rwx /* (no recursive option used), hoses a system.
[04:13] <yazrisal> id doesn't show anything :o
[04:14] <iter> ok, you ran that command and it completed? try ifconfig -a again please
[04:14] <yazrisal> yes it completed
[04:14] <iter> we are looking for inet addr: 192.168.42.xxx under eth0
[04:16] <yazrisal> still exactly the same output
[04:16] <berserker703> umm my linux wont start after all the updates
[04:16] <berserker703> is their anything i can do?
[04:17] <iter> for some reason you are not getting an IP address on eth0
[04:17] <iter> let's try eth1
[04:17] <iter> 'sudo dhclient eth1'
[04:17] <yazrisal> it takes very long time to execute :(
[04:18] <iter> it should get an IP pretty quickly, otherwise you ahve to wait for the timeout
[04:18] <fuzzyghost> I'm sorry if my question is noobish, just trying to assess whether I will have to reinstall when I get my laptop home.
[04:18] <iter> I assume your usb network adapter 'just worked' right
[04:18] <Edisto> does anyone else get small lag spikes where programs freeze for a few seconds on updating or using web browser?
[04:18] <histo> Edisto: no
[04:18] <yazrisal> yes my usb tethering worked flawlessly
[04:19] <histo> fuzzyghost: did you run that as sudo?
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> histo Yes, I did.
[04:19] <iter> do you know anything about the wired network you are plugging this computer into?
[04:19] <iter> are you sure dhcp works on it, for example
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> I meant to type ./* instead, but slipped.
[04:19] <fuzzyghost> It is still running now, haven't rebooted.
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: every directory inside of the / would be chmod's down 1 level like / /home /etc  /bin /usr etc....
[04:20] <yazrisal> yes i know, it's a working office network which runs good on my friend's mac and another friend's windows
[04:20] <fuzzyghost> Yeah, and escott told me that default permissions were 755, so I reset them to that.
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: It's going to create permission issues more than anything as you just gave the world rwx to those directories
[04:20] <histo> fuzzyghost: let me check
[04:20] <fuzzyghost> Okay.  All the Googling I did indicated the system was hosed.
[04:20] <yazrisal> is there any teamviewer for ubuntu? if yes, ill download and let you control it from there :p
[04:21] <fuzzyghost> histo Thank you.
[04:21] <histo> fuzzyghost: yeah they should be rx not rwx
[04:21] <TBotNik> yazrisal: Yes but installs via Q4Wine
[04:22] <iter> yazrisal: I could do it via ssh but that might be a bit too much work for your end
[04:22] <histo> fuzzyghost: chmod o=rx /*     with the exception of /tmp needs to be rwx
[04:22] <yazrisal> any alternative without those 'wine'?
[04:22] <TBotNik> yazrisal: Therefore you have to install Wine, Q4Wine, then Teamviewer.
[04:22] <yazrisal> or if still need wine, i have playonlinux installed on my laptop
[04:22] <Omer7a> Port forward for remote desktop. Don't need team viewer
[04:22] <iter> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[04:22] <iter> well I'll be darned
[04:22] <Omer7a> Ha
[04:22] <yazrisal> ok :p wait, dont go anywhere xD
[04:23] <histo> fuzzyghost: init* and vmlin* need to be rwx and root needs to be nothing basically o=
[04:23] <histo> fuzzyghost: also lost+found should be o=
[04:23] <topper4125> yazrisal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119650/what-is-the-alternative-for-teamviewer
[04:24] <histo> fuzzyghost: if you ls -l / | pastebinit I can tell you whats wrong
[04:24] <TBotNik> All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?
[04:24] <Omer7a> As I said, rdp
[04:24] <histo> yazrisal: yes you can install teamviwer in linux
[04:25] <histo> yazrisal: there are other options availible too like xrdp and if you are running 12.10 you can even log into remote systems right from the login screen
[04:25] <subcool> can someone help me with gparted...
[04:25] <fuzzyghost> histo I followed a couple of your commands, here you go:  http://pastebin.com/dQPrLpfy
[04:25] <subcool> according to the site, it supports lvm2, but i have a error from gpartes saying its unsupported
[04:25] <TBotNik> yazrisal: TV is all I use for RDT, as works on Linux, Mac, Winduhs! so can support anything with it.
[04:26] <Jacob_> if the last message on the terminal is "Unpacking libsigsegv2" then it's still not done installing, right?
[04:26] <Jacob_> once again the boot repair is taking an eternity to install >_<
[04:26] <dr_willis> the terminal  will return to the  command prompt when its done
[04:27] <histo> fuzzyghost: chmod g+w /tmp       and  chmod g-rx /root
[04:28] <histo> fuzzyghost: fix those 2 and you'll be good.
[04:28] <kevdog> yo
[04:28] <fuzzyghost> histo Plus the vmlin and init?
[04:29] <histo> yazrisal: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[04:30] <histo> fuzzyghost: those look fine I was talking of initrd.img  and vmlinuz
[04:30] <fuzzyghost> Okay.
[04:30] <histo> fuzzyghost: they are the proper permisions.
[04:30] <histo> well atleast the default installed ones.
[04:30] <sazpaimon_> how do I replace ubuntu with xubuntu but make it as if ubuntu was never installed? I tried apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^, but that left me with a "failed to load session ubuntu" message?
[04:31] <histo> sazpaimon_: did you already install xubuntu-desktop?
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> yes
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> I'm in xfce4 now
[04:31] <histo> sazpaimon_: then when did you get the session error?
[04:31] <fuzzyghost> histo Thank you.  I have one day off after I get back from vacation, and I didn't want to have to spend it reinstalling everything.  Thanks again for your help.
[04:31] <kevdog> I think you need to reconfugure your login manager --
[04:31] <sazpaimon_> after I did sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^ and tried to restart lightdm and/or gdm
[04:31] <histo> !purexubuntu | sazpaimon_
[04:31] <dr_willis> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop   shouldent remove much of anything at all id think
[04:32] <sazpaimon_> or after a simple startx
[04:32] <histo> sazpaimon_: not sure if xfce is using lightdm
[04:32] <histo> sazpaimon_: I mean xubuntu not xfce
[04:32] <topper4125> sazpaimon_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[04:32] <dr_willis> the system is trying to start up unity  as the  default wm because you got nothing set in .dmrc perhaps
[04:32] <sazpaimon_> well lightdm was still around after I did ubuntu-desktop^ removal
[04:33] <kevdog> ubuntu desktop is just a meta package
[04:33] <TBotNik> Repeating: All: Anyone know a good resource for PHPMailer?  I installed, had errors, fixed errors, but still not working.  Appears to be security issue as "SSL/TLS" is need by SMTP client.
[04:33] <fuzzyghost> G'Night all.
[04:33] <sazpaimon_> yeah and I thought removing ubuntu-desktop^ would remove all it's dependencies. It did, but left me with that error
[04:34]  * dr_willis wonderss about  the ^ at the end of that..
[04:34] <histo> sazpaimon_: did you autoremove after that?
[04:34] <sazpaimon_> yeah
[04:34] <luckybunny> just a quick update... I rebooted, scanned the disk and as if by magic... "/dev/sdb1       294G  180G   99G  65% /home"
[04:34] <kevdog> Ill have to look up the exact command but isn't it like package reconfigure or something?
[04:35] <histo> sazpaimon_: and did you see the psychocats tutorial
[04:35] <luckybunny> I didn't know there was as much as 99GB in it, but I knew for certain the disk wasn't full
[04:35] <Danechi> hello
[04:35] <sazpaimon_> I did, I'll try that now
[04:35] <Danechi> Im new to this and i could use some help
[04:36] <luckybunny> I have no idea why merely having a scheduled disk check worked
[04:36] <sazpaimon_> also, 2 more questions, 1. is there a way to have window previews in alt-tab in xfce that doesn't involve compiz, and 2. is there a unity-like search for xfce?
[04:36] <histo> luckybunny: du -h | less
[04:36] <histo> luckybunny: would show you where your space is being used.
[04:36] <Danechi> I know sound is a common issue, but i am not finding any output options
[04:36] <sazpaimon_> for now I solved 1 by using compiz, but like I said, I'd like to avoid that
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: unity like search???  for programs or files or both?
[04:37] <Danechi> could anyone help me with that?
[04:37] <sazpaimon_> histo, both
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: someone in #xubuntu may know or xfce
[04:37] <sazpaimon_> xfce4-appfinder is okay, but it's not as smart as unity's
[04:37] <histo> sazpaimon_: I'm sure there is some sort of overlay or application out there. There are so many choices in linux
[04:37] <dr_willis> some of the docks mayhave similer features also
[04:38] <histo> !sound | Danechi
[04:38] <sazpaimon_> I'll look around
[04:38] <nexus7user> i am anxiously awaiting the release of ubuntu for tablets. does anyone know when i can get my hands on an image for my nexus 7?
[04:38] <dr_willis> nexus7user:  see #ubuntu-arm and its been  out/testing for some time now ibelive
[04:39] <nexus7user> thank you dr
[04:39] <dr_willis> but its not the  same as what  was anounced i imagine..
[04:39] <dr_willis> gotta love meta-anoucenements that  basically anounce tht there will be future anouncements...
[04:39] <Danechi> what i am concerned about is when i open sound settings its giving me no options to put output sound through. I'm having trouble because im new to linux and dont realkly know where to start
[04:40] <nexus7user> an official image is announced for release for the 21st
[04:40] <kevdog> you might need alsa-manager file installed
[04:41] <kevdog> alsa-manager should allow selection of the sound card, etc
[04:41] <nexus7user> ubuntu has been ported to the nexus 7 for some time
[04:41] <subcool> is there a gui app to alter and manage LVM?
[04:41] <Aliendroid> Hi i am trying to use empathy to chat on facebook  , bu i have trouble setting up the account. In the Online Account > facebook the login screen is pop out to google-chrome, how do i fix that?
[04:41] <Danechi> i've tried that through terminal but i'm not going anywhere through it
[04:41] <kevdog> no follow
[04:42] <dr_willis> Aliendroid:  i thought  you  logged into facebook in that browser then allowed the program access
[04:42] <Danechi> i keep pulling up alsa in terminal to select the card and volume and such, but nothing is there
[04:42] <kevdog> are you using builtin sound or have an actual sound card?
[04:42] <Danechi> built in sound
[04:43] <Danechi> i plugged in some speakers hoping that would work and still nothinbg
[04:43] <Danechi> output sound isnt highlighted, and there is nothing in the "play sound through" box
[04:44] <Aliendroid> dr_willis,  the logon box suppose to show right inside the Online Accounts but everytime chrome pup up instead :<
[04:44] <kevdog> lshw -- this command is going to put out a bunch of output -- but a subsection should list your Audio device
[04:44] <dr_willis> Aliendroid:  cant say ive ever noticed..
[04:44] <Danechi> ok so type that into terminal
[04:44] <Danechi> just "Ishw"
[04:45] <kevdog> For example my audio device is using driver=snd_hda_intel
[04:45] <kevdog> lshw
[04:45] <kevdog> as in list hardware
[04:46] <Danechi> ok im looking
[04:46] <Danechi> its asking me to run something as a super-user
[04:46] <Danechi> but i still dont see anything that looks like audio...
[04:46] <kevdog> doesn't matter -- just keep looking
[04:46] <histo> Danechi: can you pastebin the output of aplay -l
[04:46] <Danechi> im worried i dont know what to look for
[04:47] <histo> Danechi: and lspci
[04:47] <Danechi> what does that mean...
[04:47] <kevdog> Mine is listed *multimedia descripton: Audio device
[04:47] <histo> Danechi: what does what? mean pastebin
[04:47] <histo> !paste | Danechi
[04:48] <kevdog> lspci will also work (if its a pci device)
[04:48] <Oweoqi> Can I use the ctrl + Fn keys  as shortcuts in Xubuntu?
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: Or the easy way is sudo apt-get install pastebinit  then run lspci | pastebinit && aplay -l | pastebinit    then give us the links
[04:48] <Danechi> i am so confused right now im somewhat lost... treat me like a kid here. This is all new to me
[04:48] <histo> Oweoqi: you can use whatever you want I'm sure.
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: Okay open a termainal ctrl+alt+t
[04:48] <Oweoqi> Odd, I had trouble doing it
[04:48] <histo> Danechi: then sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:48] <Danechi> ok ok i see audio device
[04:49] <Danechi> ok
[04:49] <histo> Danechi: then lspci | pastebinit
[04:49] <kevdog> Never knew about the pastebinit package -- cool
[04:49] <Danechi> ok one sec
[04:49] <histo> Danechi: then aplay -l | pastebinit
[04:49] <Danechi> wait wait im catching up
[04:49] <histo> copy and paste the links that application gives you into here so we can take a look.
[04:49] <Oweoqi> I'll try again
[04:49] <histo> kevdog: very usefull package for here.
[04:50] <kevdog> Dont spend a hack of a lot of time here -- but yes I can see why its useful
[04:50] <Danechi> it says it setting it up
[04:50] <Danechi> now what
[04:50] <kevdog> paste the link
[04:51] <Danechi> from what?
[04:51] <Danechi> god i feel dumb...
[04:51] <DJA> teste
[04:51] <kevdog> run the command in the terminal and then it spits out a http address
[04:51] <kevdog> paste the http address here
[04:52] <Danechi> it didnt give me an address
[04:52] <histo> Danechi: lspci | pastebinit     <copy and paste that into terminal it should output a hyperlink for you to copy and paste here
[04:52] <Danechi> it just says setting up and back to the command line
[04:52] <histo> Danechi: aplay -l | pastebinit   < this one too
[04:52] <Oweoqi> Really weird, when I try to set a keyboard shortcut in Xubuntu involving a Function keys it ignores the fact I pressed a function key. ANyone else know about this?
[04:52] <synergy> has anyone successfully got a bluetooth input device working in the latest ubuntu after it pairs? the device does nothing, nothing is in logs that shows it erroring, and I removed all the ubuntu bt shit in favor of just using bluez-utils (what I use on my arch linux, slackware, and debian boxes with the remote), and it still pairs but no luck getting it to do anything while connected. The remote has a status led that shows it sending commands anytime I use it
[04:53] <synergy> usually I would never use ubuntu, but unfortunately I need to on a device I have
[04:53] <Danechi> ok ok
[04:54] <kevdog> @synergy: gave up on the using bluez on arch for me -- very buggy -- it would pair but most times file manager couldn't access files -- once in a while it would work
[04:54] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696719
[04:55] <Danechi> is that right
[04:55] <histo> Danechi: okay and the aplay -l | pastebinit    please
[04:55] <Danechi> ok
[04:56] <kevdog> yes -- amd device -- I'm sensing there are going to be problems here -- do the same with lshw | pastebinit
[04:56] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696735
[04:56] <Danechi> ithink thats right
[04:58] <atrius> so.. if i'm looking around for the "best" wireless network manager thing.. what would you guys suggest?
[04:58] <Danechi> ok heres the lshw one
[04:58] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696754
[04:58] <Danechi> tell me what im looking at here... cause this is greek to me
[04:59] <histo> Danechi: and you have no sound output whatsoever?
[04:59] <Danechi> none, there's nothing in the box, it wont let me turn it up or down
[04:59] <Danechi> output volume isnt activated it looks like
[04:59] <synergy> kevdog: well, I've no issues on any of my other systems with this. Just haven't had any luck in ubuntu with this. I even compiled the same xorg I build on my other boxes, and ran that with no changes
[05:00] <synergy> I removed the ubuntu bt shit since the gui kept getting in the way, and it wasn't working anyway (would pair, but no keyboard or trackpad functionality)
[05:00] <histo> Danechi: what make and model pc is this?
[05:00] <kevdog> @synergy -- can't help you -- annoying for sure
[05:01] <Danechi> its an hp um.... let me look
[05:01] <synergy> yep, agreed. It's a single emmc system that I write images to with dd, so to get arch on it is a bigger pain than most other systems, or predone ubuntu images
[05:01] <Danechi> hp compaq 7700?
[05:01] <Danechi> dc7700
[05:02] <histo> Danechi: what version of ubuntu?
[05:02] <Danechi> does that help?
[05:02] <Danechi> the latest i just downloaded it and put it on today
[05:02] <histo> Danechi: hwinfo --sound | pastebinit
[05:02] <kevdog> alsamixer didn't do anything??
[05:03] <kevdog> @synergy -- never had emmc system --
[05:03] <Danechi> it says it doesnt know that command
[05:03] <Danechi> and yes alsa mixer didnt even come up with an option to do anything
[05:03] <histo> Danechi: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[05:04] <histo> Danechi: sounds like a module for your sound card didn't load for somereason
[05:04] <Danechi> ok
[05:04] <kevdog> @histo -- lshw shows the module is loaded
[05:05] <Danechi> im trying to type that command but it says empty document
[05:05] <histo> kevdog: I didn't see the lshw link
[05:06] <histo> Danechi: i HAVE TO go perhaps someone else can help. I'll be back later
[05:06] <histo> !sound | Danechi
[05:06] <Danechi> ok...
[05:06] <Danechi> now what...
[05:07] <kevdog> try hwinfo | pastebinit
[05:07] <synergy> kevdog: yeah, I need to make an image with a boot partition, system, home, etc, that will dd to the chip and be ready to boot. Makes real linux os a bit more difficult to get on. And all I want to use it for is xbmc, lol. would think ubuntu could at least do something simple with xbmc and a basic bluetooth remote that even works on every android device and linux device I've tried it on
[05:08] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696822
[05:08] <Jacob_> it's been an hour since i started to install boot repair and it still hasn't finished, this can't be right!
[05:09] <Jacob_> there has to be something wrong w/ it
[05:10] <Danechi> anything?
[05:11] <Jacob_> nothing
[05:11] <ubuntu_user> hi i want to transfer a log file to from command-line to a public website where i can download it again. how do i do it?
[05:12] <Danechi> kevdog- doesthat help at all
[05:12] <Aliendroid> is there a way to set a window to show on multiple workspace but not all , 12.10.
[05:13] <coldpizza72i> What is the best way to stream movies to my mac osx laptop from my ubuntu machine
[05:13] <dr_willis> ubuntu_user:  its going to depend on how the server supports uploads. or you could stick it on pastebin
[05:13] <kevdog> hey I had to look through that file -- sorry --- too big of file
[05:13] <Danechi> sorry what do i do now
[05:13] <kevdog> Yes your sound device is loaded.
[05:13] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  dlna/upnp servers can stream to many  differnt os/devices/clients
[05:13] <Danechi> :[ so what does that mean if its not there as an option
[05:14] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  or setup  a samba or nfs share.. but  thats not really  'streaming'
[05:14] <kevdog> if you type alsamixer at command line and then hit F6 -- what does it give you
[05:14] <Danechi> ok let me see
[05:14] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: are these methods good for very high quality videos
[05:14] <histo> coldpizza72i: dlna or use some other media server
[05:14] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  they should work fine for hd video.. your network connection will be the bottleneck
[05:14] <Danechi> - default
[05:14] <Danechi> 0 hd audio generic
[05:15] <kevdog> streaming movies is usually better with compressed video
[05:15] <Danechi> and enter device name
[05:15] <dr_willis> !info ushare
[05:15] <histo> coldpizza72i: if you instlaled a media server like mediatomb or something then it's more of an issue on the client side (the mac) on whether it supports dlna and streaming protocols like that.
[05:15] <coldpizza72i> luckily my ubuntu machine has about 15MB/s upload
[05:15] <dr_willis> ushare, xbmc, plex, mediatomb, and perhaps a dozen others  i  cent rember. ;)
[05:16] <kevdog> so there is a - default 0 hda audio generic and 1 <something else?>
[05:16] <coldpizza72i> do they buffer as nessesary?
[05:16] <dr_willis> xbmc can access dlna servers  should be avail on osx
[05:16] <coldpizza72i> cool
[05:16] <dr_willis> xbmc can even sharre to  other xbmc  clients. ifyou set up xbmc on both machines.
[05:17] <kevdog> ?
[05:17] <Danechi> it gives me three options there but when i press enter it does nothing
[05:17] <Danechi> the
[05:17] <Danechi> - default
[05:17] <Danechi> 0 hd-audio generic
[05:17] <Danechi> enter device name
[05:17] <FloodBot1> Danechi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <dr_willis> plex can share to other machines over the internet. ;)
[05:17] <dr_willis> well stream..
[05:17] <Danechi> what does he mean by flood...?
[05:17] <kevdog> and if you push Esc to get back to the main screen -- the master volume is set at 100?
[05:18] <dr_willis> dont send a lot of text to the channel Danechi   use a pastebin site
[05:18] <juicyjones> I'm just curious if we have an IRC channel just for the Touch Preview coming out tomorrow?
[05:18] <Danechi> its not?
[05:19] <kevdog> if you hit F5  -- what do you have
[05:19] <Danechi> i dont see a master volume
[05:19] <Danechi> F5 says all
[05:19] <kevdog> ok -- hit f5
[05:19] <kevdog> what are the names of the bars you have?
[05:19] <Danechi> i have no bars
[05:20] <kevdog> nothing called master?
[05:20] <cinvoke> i deleted tomcat6 under etc and call apt-get remove tomcat6.  now it will not reinstall. please help
 i get this error: chmod: cannot access `/etc/tomcat6/tomcat-users.xml': No such file or directory
[05:20] <Danechi> no
[05:20] <kevdog> Blank screen?  No bars?
[05:20] <holstein> Danechi: in the terminal.. aplay -l ..and pastebin the output
[05:20] <Danechi> can i send you a screen shot somehow?
[05:21] <holstein> Danechi: i use imagebin for screenshots
[05:21] <histo> !paste | Danechi
[05:22] <kevdog> If you look at screen, mine says Card: Pulseaudio Chip: Pulseaudio View: F3:Playback F4: Capture F5: All Item: Master
[05:22] <histo> Danechi: imagebin.org as the link suggests printscreen will let you take a screenshot
[05:22] <Danechi> am i in trouble?  i keep getting messages telling me to stop posting mulkti line tes\xt
[05:22] <yazrisal> iter: are you here?
[05:22] <kevdog> thats the stupid robot saying that -- ignore it
[05:22] <histo> kevdog: He doesn't have the module loaded probably. I believe he's only seeing the hdmi output and not the actual soundcard on his box but I could be wrong.
[05:22] <holstein> Danechi: no. they are directions on how to post lines
[05:22] <ubuntu-user> how to check what files  mailutils have before installing it?
[05:22] <histo> Danechi: NO I was just having the bot give you directions for imagebin.org
[05:22] <yazrisal> iter: thank you so much, my WIRED network is really woking good now :D
[05:23] <Danechi> oh ok i thought i was going to get kicked off. Ok so
[05:23] <yazrisal> *working
[05:23] <Danechi> imagebin
[05:23] <cinvoke> .
[05:23] <holstein> Danechi: please open a terminal and run "aplay -l" and put the output in pastebin
[05:23] <yazrisal> i have plugged out my usb connection :D
[05:23] <Danechi> holstein i'm on it
[05:23] <kevdog> aplay-l | pastebinit
[05:24] <kevdog> aplay -l | pastebinit
[05:24] <coldpizza72i> I dont know if this was dlna but i remember seeing a media center sotware with a really cool interface of a wavy wall of movies...if anyone knows the name could you let me know
[05:24] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696940
[05:24] <Danechi> that should be it
[05:24] <ubuntu-user> how to check what files  mailutils have before installing it
[05:25] <histo> coldpizza72i: plex?
[05:25] <histo> coldpizza72i: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/plexmediaserver/
[05:25] <holstein> Danechi: the hdmi is the only thing showing there.. so its the only thing that will work
[05:25] <Danechi> meaning...?
[05:25] <histo> ubuntu-user: you could use apt-file if you are looking for a specific file. Or apt-cache showpkg mailutils
[05:25] <holstein> Danechi: is that what you are tring to use? he hdmi?
[05:25] <kevdog> Something is definitely wrong with that output
[05:25] <Danechi> no not at all, just normal sound. any sound
[05:26] <histo> Yeah his sound card module isn't loaded
[05:26] <holstein> Danechi: if you are trying to use something else, it will *never* work that way
[05:26] <iter> yazrisal: hi
[05:26] <kevdog> I'm wondering if anything is listed in dmesg | more
[05:26] <Danechi> i havent even looked at the hdmi for anything yet
[05:26] <iter> yazrisal: glad to hear we got you going
[05:26] <Orokusaki> Ubuntu server ready with we admin but still learning how to configure a file serve
[05:26] <Danechi> ok so i need to use the HDMI port to get sound?
[05:26] <Orokusaki> We admin
[05:26] <amicrawler2012> hey guys  i have a qestin
[05:26] <holstein> Danechi: hdmi is the only hardware that is setup on the machine
[05:26] <amicrawler2012> i have 10.10
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: lspci | grep -i audio
[05:27] <amicrawler2012> can i use 10.04  respotires
[05:27] <amicrawler2012> i'm getting a error 404 on 10.10
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: if no other sound cards come up please check your bios and make sure on board audio isn't disabled or something silly
[05:27] <coldpizza72i> histo: instead of the movies on a single plane (like a flat peace of paper) they were displayed on a surface described as (a piece of paper that is not flat but instead has curves giving a wavy effect)
[05:27] <histo> Danechi: your hardware is supporte din ubuntu and should work out of the box. So either your soundcard is dead or disabled
[05:27] <holstein> !sound | Danechi
[05:28] <amicrawler2012> HELLO
[05:28] <histo> coldpizza72i: Idk there are so many I would search the software center
[05:28] <Danechi> ok so what should i put in terminal next
[05:28] <amicrawler2012> can any body help me plz
[05:28] <kevdog> This is hp notebook right?
[05:28] <Danechi> no desktop
[05:28] <dr_willis> with what amicrawler2012
[05:28] <kevdog> wierd -- I thought they were manufactured with intel sound
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> i have a ubunut 10.10 amd 32bit
[05:29] <Danechi> yeah thats what i thought which is why i am confused
[05:29] <holstein> Danechi: you should read that link
[05:29] <Danechi> whuch one
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> can i use 10.04 stuff instead of 10.10
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> 10.10 give me errors
[05:29] <kevdog> Long shot here :  modinfo snd_hda_intel | pastebinit
[05:29] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:  both are going to be EOL soon.. time to upgrade
[05:29] <dr_willis> !10.04
[05:29] <amicrawler2012> i know
[05:30] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1696990
[05:30] <amicrawler2012> so will it hurt if i add 10.04
[05:30] <Danechi> thats what you asked me to type in kevdog
[05:30] <amicrawler2012> and get rid of 10.10
[05:30] <dr_willis> you dont mixx differnet release repositories Aminzai
[05:30] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, yes it will probably cause you issues
[05:30] <dr_willis> you want 10.04 you install 10.04
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> oh i see
[05:31] <kevdog> lsmod | pastebinit
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> so how do i fix my issue then with 10.10
[05:31] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, what issue?
[05:31] <amicrawler2012> i get a 404
[05:31] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, 10.10 is EOL
[05:31] <histo> !eol > amicrawler2012
[05:31] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697002
[05:31] <histo> amicrawler2012: It's end of life
[05:31] <tgm4883> !eol
[05:32] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, alternatively, you could try and use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:32] <tgm4883> but you should really upgrade
[05:32] <dr_willis> be faster to do a clean insgtall of a newer release
[05:32] <histo> tgm4883: the problem is he can't upgrade
[05:33] <coldpizza72i> histo: http://www.moovida.com/ is what i was refering too, pretty sweet UI
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: it's too old the repos are gone.
[05:33] <tgm4883> histo, what about http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: He would have to download each CD
[05:33] <tgm4883> histo, err, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ is the old repositories I thought
[05:33] <histo> tgm4883: untill he got to a version that was still supported then he could online update.
[05:33] <tgm4883> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[05:33] <Danechi> does that help anything?
[05:33] <amicrawler2012> is there a server i can use to get what there is for this  ver of ubuntu
[05:34] <histo> tgm4883: I believe it's only the isos not mirrors
[05:34] <kevdog> sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[05:34] <tgm4883> histo, no, it has all the old mirrors
[05:34] <histo> kevdog: snd_hda_intel is loaded on that pastebin
[05:34] <dr_willis> thats the whole point of having old-release.xxxxxxx servers ;)
[05:34] <histo> tgm4883: ahh
[05:34]  * tgm4883 wonders if amicrawler2012 just ignores him
[05:34] <kevdog> Yes I know -- however something is messed up -- Why isn't it assoicating with the device?  where is the error message?
[05:34] <Danechi> ok loet me type that
[05:35] <MatthewL> Amicrawler2012: try searching for lamp on Ubuntu
[05:35] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:   the old-release servers... yes.. read the !EOL info
[05:35] <amicrawler2012> so how do i add this to my list  i see i can use it
[05:35] <Danechi> nothing came up after i typed that
[05:35] <tgm4883> amicrawler2012, did you not read anything on that link for eol?
[05:35] <histo> amicrawler2012: you'd have to change your sources.list to reflect old-release.ubuntu.com according to others here.
[05:35] <dr_willis> amicrawler2012:  a clean install would be faster i imagine
[05:36] <kevdog> dmesg | pastebinit
[05:36] <Danechi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1697039
[05:36] <kevdog> Wish they had the fiesty fawn repos still up
[05:36] <histo> coldpizza72i: ahh
[05:37] <histo> kevdog: they do. aparently at old-releases
[05:37] <tgm4883> you could go back to warty if you wanted to
[05:37] <dr_willis> back in the day when you could pronounce release names...
[05:38] <histo> lol
[05:38] <histo> I think they really try to pick the most obscure animals
[05:38] <MatthewL> whois dr_willis?
[05:38] <dr_willis> some are mythical )
[05:38] <histo> whois matthewL
[05:38] <MatthewL> :)
[05:38] <dr_willis> Where in the world is Carman SanDiego
[05:39]  * histo like ubuntu rabid rabbit
[05:39] <Danechi> does that say anything
[05:39] <MatthewL> Sorry, just got an irc book today
[05:39] <coldpizza72i> plex is supported on xubuntu too right
[05:39] <histo> MatthewL: yeah you may want to try /whois username
[05:39] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  yes. its a xbmc spinoff
[05:40] <MatthewL> Tried it.
[05:41] <kevdog> It says input: HD-Audio Generic HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card0/input6
[05:41] <ubuntu-user> Adobe FMS , guys having issues with installation. can you help me out?
[05:41] <Civella> Hello!
[05:41] <Danechi> what does that mean?
[05:41] <kevdog> Feisty fawn repos -- cool -- wonder if its still pulling security updates -- or that's it
[05:41] <dr_willis> ubuntu-user:  trying to insstall it via wine?
[05:41] <histo> MatthewL: ewww android client and irc book?
[05:41] <tgm4883> kevdog, thats it
[05:41] <dr_willis> kevdog:  its eol.. so no.
[05:41] <Civella> Anyone mind giving me some one-on-one help with Ubuntu? Just downloaded it and I'm running it off a USB at the moment.
[05:42] <MatthewL> Y, histo
[05:42] <dr_willis> !manual | Civella
[05:42] <kevdog> I'm kind of idea -- did you reboot just for the hell of it?
[05:42] <histo> !ask | Civella
[05:42] <Civella> I'm afraid I didn't ask to ask a question.
[05:42] <Danechi> no i got this computer for a friend and put a new hardrive in it
[05:43] <kevdog> ok -- that's not an issue
[05:43] <kevdog> You are dual booting with windows or something?
[05:44] <Danechi> no not at all
[05:44] <MatthewL> histo, %B nice work
[05:44] <MatthewL> Hmm
[05:44] <Danechi> ubuntu is all i've got on this hardrive
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> can we discuss ubuntu tablet issues here?
[05:45] <Civella> Document Viewer won't open. Sigh.
[05:45] <dr_willis> MatthewL:  irc color coded and  other escape codes are often disabled on channel;s.. they are annoying.
[05:46] <MatthewL> Ok thanks |	dr_wllis
[05:46] <kevdog> And you just ran into this problem on installation?
[05:47] <dr_willis> MatthewL:  and even the most advanced android irc clients ive seen.. are rather limited compared to ones on linux.
[05:47] <kevdog> android irc clients suck
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> kevdog: stay polite mate
[05:47] <kevdog> aye
[05:47] <dr_willis> there is a weechat client for android now that pairs with weechat runniong on linux. sort of as a bouncer type thing
[05:48] <MatthewL> ;-)
[05:48] <dr_willis> but its still in a rouhgh stage
[05:48] <dr_willis> rough
[05:48] <MatthewL> Y, I love my xchat on lubuntu
[05:48] <ubuntu-user> no dr_willi
[05:48] <Danechi> yes when i first tried to use the computer today
[05:49] <tgunr> dr_willis: did you get my post about fixing the problem I had yesterday? it should be put in the bot here
[05:49] <dr_willis> tgunr:  thers some way to submit factoids.. but i dont recall how
[05:50] <kevdog> You went into the bios and made sure the sound card was turned on?  Or lets say when you booted the live CD -- did the audio work off the live CD?
[05:50] <dr_willis> !factoids
[05:50] <dr_willis> not sure of the factoid on submitting factoids. ;)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> i did a factoid once
[05:50] <dr_willis> tgunr:  you could post it on askubuntu.com
[05:50] <tgunr> I will repeat it FYI: Ubuntu 12.10 + Parallels 8 + Parallels Tools = FAIL
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> its a kind of request 'text' for empty triggers
[05:51] <tgunr> Awesome, should have looked for such a site!
[05:51]  * tgunr slaps his forehead
[05:51] <dr_willis> they may even have a work around for  your issue.  ;P
[05:51] <SuperLag> tgunr: I get MUCH better mileage with VMware Fusion.
[05:51] <tgunr> yeah, except i already paid for it
[05:52] <tgunr> are you running 12.10 on Fusion?
[05:52] <SuperLag> yes, as well as 13.04
[05:52] <SuperLag> the beta 13.04, that is
[05:52] <SuperLag> it's not released yet
[05:52] <tgunr> Interesting, I may have to switch as this is very painful
[05:53] <Oweoqi> If anyone here is running Xubuntu are you able to confirm this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfce4ui/+bug/1131044
[05:53] <tgunr> I need to get 4 VM running here for a client test
[05:53] <ax562> I had a question
[05:53] <ax562> is there any ubuntu guru's in here?
[05:53] <coldpizza72i> whats the button combination with a F key to pull up a shell
[05:53] <SuperLag> tgunr: I don't know if open-vm-tools will work with Parallels, or not... but that's what I had to do for 13.04
[05:53] <SuperLag> ax562: Nope. None. None at all.
[05:53] <ax562> lol
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ax562
[05:54] <ax562> seriously though
[05:54] <tgunr> thanks, will check it out, starting day 3 of linux
[05:54] <ax562> OK
[05:54] <SuperLag> ax562: and besides... you just wasted time by asking if you could ask. Just do it.
[05:54] <SuperLag> tgunr: never run Linux before?
[05:54] <savagecroc> crao
[05:54] <tgunr> not for several years
[05:54] <savagecroc> crap
[05:54] <savagecroc> is this chatroom logged anywhere?
[05:54] <savagecroc> my scroll back only goes 1000 lines
[05:54] <Oweoqi> yes
[05:54] <ax562> I'm running 32 bit ubuntu 11.04 and wanted to upgrade to the latest and greatest 64bit version
[05:54] <tgunr> I'm a Macintosh guy basically
[05:54] <ax562> I believe 12.10?
[05:55] <SuperLag> tgunr: I do 'em all.
[05:55] <coldpizza72i> how can i get a shell with a function key
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ax562: clean install to 64-bit
[05:55] <savagecroc> tgunr: i never hear people say macintosh :)
[05:55] <tgunr> be careful , u ptrading, has caused me much grief so far
[05:55] <Oweoqi> yeah 32bit is different arch
[05:55] <tgunr> It's in my auto typer
[05:55] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  what? alt-ctrl-t gives a terminal window.
[05:55] <ax562> but my question is I have duo boot with windows and was wondering if I could format my existing partition and install on that?  Would I have a problem?
[05:56] <savagecroc> tungr: macintosh makes me think of late 80's.. no idea why they called it that
[05:56] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  press and hold the super key for a list of keyboard shortcuts
[05:56] <tgunr> downloaded the server version, will be trying that next
[05:56] <kevdog> @ax562 no -- not if you are careful to screw things up:)
[05:56] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  its a kind of apple....
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ax562: i would singleboot ubuntu
[05:56] <SuperLag> tgunr: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:56] <savagecroc> dr_willis: ahhh
[05:56] <tgunr> savagecroc: start with serial# 1008 in 1984
[05:56] <kevdog> @ax562 -- I'm dual booted right now -- I shrunk my windows partition on this notebook
[05:57] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  where do you think they got the 'Mac' name from .
[05:57] <ax562> I have WAY TOO MUCH on windows, my DAW is on there Pro Tools 8.0.3..I can't loose that
[05:57] <tgunr> trying to get a client software to run for some testing
[05:57] <iter> tgunr: macpaint ftw
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ax562: many strong ubuntu packages out there to replace windows apps
[05:57] <dr_willis> Deluxe Paint on My Amiga.. :) was the bestest
[05:57] <tgunr> God, loved MacPait, it was awesome at the time!
[05:57] <ax562> OK...so I could just format existing partition then?  What about my boot partition? Isn't that on the ext partition?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> ax562: and you can always virtualbox a windows on ubuntu
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: lol amiga500 oldskool
[05:58] <tgunr> chessboard paint, just like in the cartoon!
[05:58] <kubanc> hellow. Where is trash icon in ubuntu 12.10?
[05:59] <tgunr> kubanc: rm
[05:59] <ax562> I know there is alternatives but I've spent way too much time and money.
[05:59] <dr_willis> kubanc:  you can get to the trshcak via the panel on the left side of the file manager window.
[05:59] <dr_willis> !trash
[05:59] <ax562> My real concern is that if I format I will mess up my boot manager and kill all partitions
[05:59] <kevdog> @ax562 -- you doing the install on the same hard disk?
[05:59] <ax562> yeah
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> dualbooting slows hd
[05:59] <ax562> I have a 160gb hd with 100gb windoze and the rest for swap and linux
[06:00] <kevdog> @ax562 -- go into windows and using the windows partition manager to shrink the windows partition (if you can) to leave unpartitioned space at the end of the drive
[06:00] <ax562> slows hd?  boot time?
[06:00] <dr_willis> i would have to see some benchmarks on that statement
[06:00] <iter> ax562: it doesn't slow anything at all
[06:00] <ax562> I already have ubuntu and ext partition
[06:00] <ax562> @iter I agree
[06:01] <kevdog> @ax562 -- (Dont worry about that) -- Then use gparted to make format the unpartitioned space --
[06:01] <coldpizza72i> Is it possible to install plex without using a package manager
[06:01] <cfhowlett> ... cocks a skeptical eyebrow.  slows boot?
[06:01] <ax562> I could see boot time but thats all
[06:01] <coldpizza72i> possible/easy
[06:01] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  go to the plex homepage and see what they got.
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> classic magnetic drives will be slower read speeds when more full
[06:01] <dr_willis> since plex runs as a service.. you insgtgall it system wide. not as a user as far as i know..
[06:02] <ax562> so where is the boot manager stored at?  it's own partition?
[06:02] <kubanc> dr_willis, i cannot find trshcak in my panel
[06:02] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  err.. that dosent make much sence
[06:02] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: what exactly would i be looking for? source download?
[06:02] <dr_willis> kubanc:  look in the file manager windows left side panel. Not the unity panel
[06:02] <kevdog> @ax562 -- not sure what you mean ubuntu and ext partition --  You just made one big partition ext3/4?
[06:02] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  i just use their repositories/deb file i recall.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> anyway its offtopic so
[06:03] <kubanc> dr_willis, ok, sorry for my laziness :)
[06:03] <coldpizza72i> can i install a deb without a package manager, dr_willis
[06:03] <kevdog> The boot manager is going to be the first xxx bytes of the drive -- I dont remember the exact amount
[06:03] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  why would you want to? or think you can..
[06:03] <ax562> @kevdog I have duo boot ntfs/ext4
[06:03] <ax562> so really I had two questions
[06:03] <rj1> hi...anybody here have tried installing cacti on ubuntu server 12.04
[06:03] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: im in a rush and dont have the time i need to fix my package manger problems
[06:04] <kevdog> You could back up the first xxx  bytes to a file using the dd command.  Grub will overwrite the boot parition with its setup allowing you to choose to boot to ubuntu or windows
[06:04] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  look for a tar.gz i guess...
[06:04] <ax562> 1. If I format my ubuntu ext4 partition using gparted boot disk, will I be able to boot windwos still and not mess up boot manager?
[06:05] <dr_willis> ax562:  if thee grub boot files are on that partion. then grub wont work
[06:05] <iter> ax562, you can boot to windows cd and run fixboot and fixmbr to recover those, as long as you haven't actually nuked the windows partition
[06:05] <kevdog> @ax562 -- just my style but I usually have at a minimum a / parition and a swap partition.  However usually I include a /boot and /home partition as well.  The /home partition is useful if you are going to be upgrading a lot.
[06:05] <ubuntu471> does anyone know how to get chrome to launch xchat as a default program once a url channel is clicked?  i seemed to mess up the default somehow...
[06:06] <iter> it SHOULD be safe to delete and reinstall the ubuntu partition but everyone is treating this with kid gloves because Bad Things Could Happen and they would rather you not lose data
[06:06] <ax562> hmmmmm
[06:06] <dr_willis> when in doubt... BACKUP your data
[06:06] <iter> ^^^
[06:06] <ax562> sounds like a few things can go wrong
[06:06] <kevdog> @ax562 -- yes you will be able to boot windows -- I essentially nuked the windows mbr when I installed linux (although I meant to back it up -- I missed that part).  Everythign is ok
[06:07] <dr_willis> a hard drive could die at any time... and ive seen them do it
[06:07] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: is there any viable options to stream hd without installing anything on my ubuntu machine (viable for a short term soltuion)? ...im not sure if any remote mounting would work..
[06:07] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  theres no default streaming services instgalled..
[06:07] <ax562> @all, i'm getting mixed answers
[06:07] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  samba is not instllaed by default either... or any other services that i know of.
[06:08] <dr_willis> well none that do what you need at least. ;)
[06:08] <coldpizza72i> i have an ssh server on it
[06:08] <kevdog> @ax562 -- there are no correct answers -- its just what you want to do
[06:08] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  sshfs is handy ;)
[06:08] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[06:08] <ax562> OK.  How would you jedi ubuntu knights do this then
[06:08] <kevdog> sshfs is awesome -- just my opinion.  Samba sucks.  nfs is another option
[06:08] <Jacob_> do evga motherboards work well w/ ubuntu
[06:09] <ax562> Upgrade ubuntu on existing partition without harming windows partition?
[06:09] <dr_willis> given the complexity of what samba is doing. it works quite well
[06:09] <cfhowlett> ax562, I prefer the clean install method.  download iso, burn to usb, install. I have a /home partition ...
[06:09] <holstein> ax562: i dont so upgrades.. i backup my data and reinstall.. but if you dont harm the windows partition, it wont be harmed
[06:10] <holstein> dont do*
[06:10] <iter> ax562: I assume you don't have an extra hard drive right?
[06:10] <kevdog> @ax562 -- what do you want to do?  Are you using ubuntu just temporarilty or is this the long haul.  A home partition is for the long haul.  If you are just playing around, I'd just do a / and swap parition with the swap partition 3x as big as my RAM (although everyone says 2x -- I've had my swap fill up when doing this to often)
[06:10] <SerenE_SparK> How can we find class path in Ubuntu? i tried echo $CLASSPATH but there was no output
[06:10] <holstein> nothing about an upgrade will change your windows partition, but you should have backups anyway for when that drive will fail
[06:10] <coldpizza72i> dr_willis: do you think there will be any noticiable effects(like lag) from using sshfs as opposed to dlna/upnp
[06:11] <surbs> does anyone know how to trigger xchat from chrome? i seemed to have fudged the default application setting somehow...?
[06:11] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  no idea. iimagine your network will be the boottleneck
[06:11] <dr_willis> coldpizza72i:  all i stream is anime. ;)
[06:11] <coldpizza72i> its worth a try, thanks
[06:11] <kevdog> Grub will only overwrite the MBR at the front on the disk -- it will detect your windows parition automatically and add it to a line where you can choose the system you want to boot to
[06:11] <coldpizza72i> 15MB/s upload is nice tho :)
[06:11] <ax562> but I don't want to mess up grub so when I boot back after format not be able to boot windows and loose everything
[06:12] <dr_willis> ax562:  if you reinstsll it will reinstall grub..
[06:12] <kevdog> sshfs encrypts data -- so yes it will probably be slower -- an unencrypted tunnel is probably faster
[06:12] <holstein> ax562: the upgrade doesnt mess up grub,.. you can always reinstall grub.. and your data should be backedup
[06:12] <histo> kevdog: not it's not slower
[06:12] <dr_willis> wonder if sshfs has a -Y option
[06:12] <histo> kevdog: it also does compression I believe.
[06:12] <ax562> where is grub located? own partition?
[06:12] <coldpizza72i> i wish i had kvm/ip so i could fix my computer remotely
[06:13] <dr_willis> or some other local lan type options
[06:13] <surbs> additionally, my apologies for double post* I switched to laptop so i could troubleshoot and recognize font change.
[06:13] <holstein> !grub | ax562
[06:13] <cfhowlett> surbs, settings > preferred applications ...
[06:13] <holstein> ax562: depends on where you put it..
[06:13] <kevdog> Grub is in the /boot tree
[06:13] <histo> Someone would probably have to run speed tests but I doubt it would be slower.
[06:13] <ax562> would me being booted in ubuntu help?
[06:13] <iter> well, grub is in the mbr too (if we are talking mbr disk here)
[06:13] <ax562> maybe I can check where it's at?
[06:14] <holstein> ax562: you'll have to boot ubuntu if you want to upgrade ubuntu
[06:14] <kevdog> @ax562 -- seriously -- youre decision is really how you want to partition your unallocated space.  Installing ubuntu on top of windows -- I've done this like 5 times
[06:14] <surbs> cfhowlett, do not see that as an option.
[06:14] <iter> holstein: I think he wants to go 32bit to 64bit, right ax562 ?
[06:14] <holstein> ax562: you just upgrade.. and grub will be upgraded as well
[06:14] <ax562> I originally installed ubuntu 9.9? because I couldn't duo boot with grub/boot manager...
[06:14] <iter> if that's the case you need to do a clean install from cd
[06:15] <dr_willis> 32bit to 64bit - requires a clean install
[06:15] <holstein> ax562: 9.04 or 9.10
[06:15] <histo> ax562: I'm sorry what's the problem? I wasn't paying attention?
[06:15] <kevdog> @ax562 -- I've dual booted with windows for like the last 3 years maybe 4 -- with grub(1) and grub2
[06:15] <ax562> then I upgraded using ubuntu software center or upgrade whatever it's called to 11.10 so i think I have 9.9 boot manager
[06:15] <dr_willis> 9.x used grub also
[06:15] <cfhowlett> surbs, I don't know where, but I promise you have it ... ask in channel how set this
[06:15] <ax562> sorry 9.10
[06:16] <holstein> ax562: you can look and see, but its all grub, and grub gets upgraded with upgrades
[06:16] <dr_willis> i was thninkig when the change from grub1 to grub2 happened  it dident upgrade to grub2 by default.
[06:16] <dr_willis> but thats been ages ago
[06:16] <surbs> cfhowlett, what do you mean by "ask in channel how set this" ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> !grub2
[06:17] <kevdog> The only thing that sucks about system upgrades -- is that sometimes things get broken -- this has happened to me.  I usually just reinstall the upgraded OS.  If you have /home on the same partition as /, then /home gets overwritten during new installation
[06:17] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu how to find "Preferred Applications" settings ????
[06:17] <ax562> my problem, I believe, is I have to format ext4 partition to clean install on that, so I'm scared when I do that I will mess up grub.
[06:18] <dr_willis> ax562:  sif you do you fix grub....
[06:18] <dr_willis> its not like its rocket-surgery ;)
[06:18] <holstein> ax562: and you will have all your data backed up anyway
[06:18] <kevdog> I do all my partition using gparted -- if gparted can see your patitions -- it shouldn't mess things up
[06:18] <ax562> ok, well i guess it's a crap shoot then
[06:19] <kevdog> I doubt your MBR has been messed up
[06:19] <ax562> so where is grub stored?
[06:19] <ax562> no, everything is ok now
[06:19] <cfhowlett> ax562, even if grub wiped your boot, windows would still be there.  REpairing windows boot is easy
[06:19] <dr_willis> grub support files are on /boot/ it installs to the mbr of the hd
[06:19] <ax562> I probably have old grub, grub1
[06:19] <holstein> ax562: no. its not.. if you want to replace your linux install, you can remove it, and when you reinstall, grub will automatically installl again
[06:19] <dr_willis> grub shows a version # when it loads up
[06:19] <holstein> ax562: you can check and see what version you have
[06:19] <iter> ax562: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Boot_process
[06:20] <holstein> ax562: the links to the grub wiki talk about how to recover grub, if you need
[06:20] <kevdog> can you still boot windows?
[06:20] <kevdog> If you can -- mbr isn't messed up
[06:20] <ax562> thanks for the links
[06:21] <ax562> I know if something break you can fix it most of the time
[06:21] <ax562> but what I'm trying to avoid is breaking it from the start
[06:21] <ax562> ;)
[06:21] <dr_willis> if you clean install it will reinstall grub
[06:21] <iter> ax562: do you have data on the ubuntu partition you care about?
[06:22] <ax562> not really, a few android rom's, kitchen, apps nothing special
[06:22] <kevdog> You know you can just reformat you linux paritions again right?
[06:22] <ax562> that's what im going to do
[06:22] <iter> ax562: if you don't care about the data, boot from new ubuntu cd and just install as usual
[06:22] <ax562> but thats why i'm asking if I do that will it break other partition or grub
[06:22] <kevdog> dont reformat the windows partion -- you'll just F**K things up then :)
[06:22] <iter> just be careful not to delete your windows partition
[06:23] <iter> and you'll be good
[06:23] <iter> it should not break your windows nor your grub
[06:23] <ax562> I tried that when I first installed 9.10
[06:23] <kevdog> I think gparted from live cd
[06:23] <kevdog> is ok
[06:23] <histo> ax562: is the whole point of this just to upgrade?
[06:23] <ax562> ubuntu partition manager BLOWS!