[00:00] <TJ-> j0h: none at all unless you've got an IPv4 address hard-code in the kernel command-line or someplace else
[00:01] <j0h> nope, nothing like that
[00:02] <j0h> it says on that article "The default kernel’s behavior is getting the IP address via dhcp (ip=dhcp). "
[00:02] <TJ-> j0h: well this'll be your problem; if you manually do "dhclient&" to run it in the background it'll by default try IPv4, then run your script and it'll likely all work, which will prove the problem is the missing dhclient call
[00:02] <MWM> hey guys.  Im having trouble logging in. I set the machine not to ask for password on login and now it does.  And the proper password doesnt work.  I can ssh in from another machine onthe local network though.
[00:02] <TJ-> j0h: what *is* on the kernel command-line?
[00:03] <Gerowin> Ubuntu Server 18.04, DNS resolution fails after uninstalling PiHole.  Manually editing /etc/resolv.conf fixes it, but it doesn't persist after reboot.  Manually editing /etc/netplan/foo.yaml seems to work, in that netplan doesn't give any errors when applying, but it doesn't fix my DNS resolution problem.  What is the correct way to commit changes to /etc/resolv.conf ?
[00:03] <j0h> I didn't put anything on the kernel command-line because it said that was default
[00:03] <MWM> .xsession-errors doesnt show anything and I removed .Xauthority and rebooted just for good measure. still no joy
[00:03] <j0h> so I skipped that step TJ- as I didn't need to assign a static ip
[00:04] <j0h> TJ-, this is a read only right? I'm not able to disable this script from running through the initramfs shell?
[00:05] <j0h> just to revert all the reverse ssh stuff and see if it does get ip without it
[00:06] <TJ-> j0h: I'm searching the kernel source to check on the autoconfig/DHCP internal stuff
[00:07] <j0h> ahh ok
[00:07] <j0h> also, I just noticed that the ping would always fail because my external server doesn't respond to pings
[00:07] <j0h> -.- great >.>
[00:07] <j0h> I should have checked that, silly me
[00:09] <j0h> TJ-, that is likely what the delay is
[00:09] <j0h> good old azure blocking ICMP
[00:09] <TJ-> j0h: hmmm, but is that affecting the DHCP too?
[00:10] <j0h> hum, I don't think that would
[00:10] <j0h> like, the script will reboot after 60s if it doesn't get a ping right?
[00:12] <TJ-> j0h: kernel-wise, it has the config flag CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP but that isn't set in the Ubuntu builds; check with "grep -n CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP /boot/config*"
[00:13] <j0h> sorry TJ, got disconnected, I'm still trying to get into the normal boot somehow
[00:13] <j0h> so I can disable this script and start again -.-
[00:13] <zealsham_> what regex do i use if i want to grep for subdomains from a text file
[00:14] <MWM> any ideas for a login loop on 19.04 ?
[00:15] <TJ-> j0h: so, I'd try adding "ip=dhcp" to the kernel command line
[00:16] <j0h> is this through grub e again?
[00:17] <TJ-> j0h: you need to be aware that all this internal kernel network support is *only* to allow it to mount its root file-system from an NFS Server, and so when those NFS facilities aren't built in, this IP autoconfigure behaviour won't work. I'm not seeing signs of its config options in the Ubuntu kernel configs but I was pretty sure they are there somewhere!
[00:18] <TJ-> j0h: yes, always, only way to add it at boot-time
[00:18] <TJ-> j0h: once the system has fully booted you can always edit /etc/default/grub to add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=  and then do "update-grub" so it happens automatically
[00:19] <j0h> ahh ok, the only issue I see TJ- is that this script will fail because of the sleep /sbin
[00:19] <j0h> as that doesn't persist when I do ln -s
[00:20] <j0h> there must be some magic that caused it to get an IP without setting GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, but I'll be sure to do that when I manage to boot
[00:20] <zealsham_> how do i grep only the subdomains in this text file https://ibb.co/YLHRC70
[00:20] <TJ-> j0h: the full details of that network functionality is here: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/filesystems/nfs/nfsroot.txt
[00:22] <j0h> gotcha, will read through that
[00:23] <Rojola2> What could be the reason, why I,  being _root_, can not edit files in /snap/wekan ?
[00:23] <Rojola2> I seem to have insufficient permissions
[00:23] <Rojola2> the files seem to be owned by "root"
[00:23] <j0h> TJ- is there a way to persist the ln -s for /bin/sleep here?
[00:24] <j0h> so that I can try adding ip=dhcp to kernel
[00:24] <j0h> and see if it boots
[00:24] <sarnold> Rojola2: snaps are stored in squashfs filesystems, which cannot be written to
[00:25] <Rojola2> thank you sarnold
[00:25] <Rojola2> sarnold, is there any workaround?
[00:25] <Rojola2> I must really edit a file
[00:25] <sarnold> Rojola2: I don't know what problem you're trying to solve
[00:25] <Rojola2> sarnold, I try to edit a template file
[00:26] <Rojola2> /snap/wekan/550/programs/web.browser/head.html
[00:26] <Rojola2> ^ this is the file I must edit
[00:26] <hggdh> Rojola2: the filesystem is read-only
[00:27] <sarnold> Rojola2: if whoever packaged it has given you the sources, you can change the file and then rebuild the snap
[00:27] <j0h> TJ-, on /scripts/dropbear, there is configure_networking
[00:27] <j0h> I think this might be what brings the connection ip
[00:27] <Rojola2> can I unmount the snap, mount it in write-mode, edit it, and remount it?
[00:27] <Rojola2> I am not used to not being allowed to edit a file on linux
[00:28] <Rojola2> in the past, I also installed it via snap and I could edit this file
[00:28] <Rojola2> nah maybe that was a *.deb  back then
[00:28] <sarnold> Rojola2: probably not. you can certainly use unsquashfs to unpack the thing, edit it, then mksquashfs to repack it, but that will change the filesystem, and probably snapd will refuse to work with a corrupted filesystem image
[00:29] <sarnold> Rojola2: it'd be significantly easier to get the source code and change it then rebuild the image
[00:29] <Rojola2> installing this without snap is difficult
[00:29] <Rojola2> snap made it so easy
[00:30] <sarnold> ask whoever packaged it if the sources are available; it might be as easy as git clone ... ; cd ... ; vim foo/head.html ; snapcraft
[00:30] <TJ-> j0h: that is likely; I just found the 'knob' that controls kernel networking, it's CONFIG_IP_PNP and it isn't set in the Ubuntu kernels
[00:31] <j0h> TJ- /debian/initramfs/dropbear-hook
[00:31] <j0h> that's where the dropbear hook is on the git
[00:32] <Rojola2> sarnold, thank you!
[00:32] <sarnold> Rojola2: all sorted? :)
[00:33] <j0h> TJ- is there something that I can do to disable this script from running?
[00:33] <j0h> I actually can't see myself booting into normal
[00:34] <j0h> can I simply do rm link-with.server.sh?
[00:34] <TJ-> j0h: configure_networking() is provided by initramfs-tools /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions
[00:34] <j0h> the dropbear prehook calls that function
[00:36] <j0h> I
[00:36] <Rojola1> sarnold, no
[00:37] <j0h> I just want to disable this reverse ssh script now form initramfs, is there anything I can do to boot locally TJ-?
[00:37] <Rojola1> sarnold, I will probably reinstall wekan via "sandstorm" so I can edit it
[00:37] <MWM_> still login looping.  lightdm.conf reports that I should still be on auto-login.  AM I going to have to reinstall here?
[00:38] <tonyt> mwm_ did you try startx?
[00:39] <MWM_> tonyt:  startx wont work. the machine is my NAS (and other stuff ) rig so I run itheadless over the network.  Only access I have right now is ssh (normally use teamviewer)
[00:40] <sarnold> Rojola1: dang. I hoped you'd gotten it going; snap sounds really easy to use, but two minutes did seem too good to be true, haha
[00:41] <MWM_> it just started wanting a password after the last reboot.  when I put the proper password in it just loops back to the login prompt
[00:42] <TJ-> j0h: from the host remove its executable bit: "chmod -x /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/link-with-server.sh"
[00:43] <TJ-> j0h: that way when the initrd is rebuilt it won't be executed on boot
[00:43] <TJ-> j0h: whilst you're testing that script you ought to add a flag that stops it acting
[00:44] <j0h> where do you add the flag TJ-?
[00:44] <j0h> I should just tested this in a VM first
[00:45] <j0h> oh and thanks TJ-, I just managed to boot into the main os
[00:45] <j0h> pheww!
[00:46] <TJ-> j0h: I'd add a line before the ". /scripts/functions" with "if grep -q dbclient=no /proc/cmdline; then exit 0; fi"
[00:46] <TJ-> j0h: with that line, to disable the script, you'd just need to add "dbclient=no" on the kernel command-line at boot-time
[00:46] <TJ-> j0h: of course, don't forget to make the script executable again if you adopt that!
[00:46] <j0h> awesome, thanks TJ-
[00:47] <j0h> I won't keep you up any longer!
[00:47] <TJ-> j0h: I was about tosay I have to go; got to be up in 3 hours!
[00:47] <j0h> gosh!
[00:47] <j0h> hope you managed to some sleep, sorry for keeping you up so late
[00:47] <j0h> you've helped me loads! appreciate it!
[00:48] <j0h> night night
[00:48] <TJ-> yeah.. got a large summerhouse construction delivery to supervise and the construction crew are due  to arrive around 7am
[00:48] <j0h> early doors :o
[00:49] <TJ-> j0h: hope you get it sorted; might help to let the writer of that script know about the things they missed that broke it too
[00:49] <j0h> yea, I'll create a PR when I figure it all out
[01:06] <Naddiseo> Looking for some help diagnosing/fixing: I upgraded to 19.04, now my computer wont detect my keyboard/mouse through my KVM. the boot log said something about a usb error or bad cable, however I've tried changing the cable and it also works with the other machine connected to the kvm switch.
[01:08] <Naddiseo> "usb 1-9-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable bad?"
[01:10] <Delphin> hi, I have Ubuntu 15.04 and am trying to update my libssl to the latest security fix for CVE-2016-2107, does anyone know if theres a special apt repository for that? thx!
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Delphin: 15.04 ??
[01:11] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | Delphin
[01:11] <Delphin> oh darn
[01:12] <Naddiseo> might be able to use an old debian repository, though?
[01:12] <sarnold> no
[01:12] <sarnold> there's an old-releases.ubuntu.com or similar that would have packages that are compatible
[01:13] <sarnold> but there's no fixes for anything in the last three years
[01:13] <Delphin> no problem I'm compiling it from source instead
[01:16] <sarnold> please be careful with that machine
[01:16] <sarnold> the apt on it is going to be vulnerable to a MITM attack, and who knows what else.. it's been a busy three years
[01:25] <Naddiseo> Has 19.04 changed how it handles USB, or what it supports?
[01:28] <Delphin> does anyone know any good free (or really cheap) web host panels for linux?
[01:42] <lordcirth_> Delphin, what do you need it to do?
[01:44] <Delphin> lordcirth_: would like SSL certificate management built in and spam stuff for email protection, and a reseller portal or a way to make seperate accounts for different users
[01:47] <tacomaster> I have just installed ubuntu server 18.04 and transmission-daemon. The default is to only allow <IP_ADDRESS> to connect to the website can somone help me get the config file to change?
[01:48] <sarnold> tacomaster: first, are you really sure you want to?
[01:48] <sarnold> tacomaster: probably dpkg -L transmission-daemon  will show a config file in /etc
[01:48] <tacomaster> The server that it is installed on has no web browser so I am pretty sure :D
[01:49] <sarnold> but do you completely trust all the other machines that can reach it?
[01:49] <tacomaster> Yes it is just two computers on this subnet my and this machine
[01:50] <lordcirth_> tacomaster, this should cover it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo
[01:50] <sarnold> /var/lib/ eh? good thing someone wrote some instructions :) hah
[01:51] <lordcirth_> yeah, it's odd
[02:18] <Joah> hi all, ran into some issues trying to update some packages, probably foolishly. trying to revert them back to the prior versions yields an error of "Package <package name> is not configured yet." for everything
[02:18] <Joah> `apt-get -f install` just tries to remove a ton of packages
[02:18] <Joah> what can i do to fix these issues? thanks
[02:19] <lordcirth_> Joah, what Ubuntu version, and what packages did you try to update? Do you have PPAs?
[02:20] <Joah> 18.04. tried updating some dependencies a newer version of a package required
[02:20] <Joah> no PPAs, just downloaded the .deb files
[02:20] <lordcirth_> Oh, yeah manually installing .debs that conflict with existing ones is a bad idea
[02:21] <lordcirth_> Joah, can you try 'apt install --reinstall <pkg>'
[02:21] <Joah> good idea
[02:23] <Joah> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JSrMf35Jw7/
[02:23] <Joah> that's what i get D:
[02:23] <Joah> i don't even know where to start
[02:23] <lordcirth_> Joah, did you try to install a newer libc6?
[02:23] <Joah> yeah
[02:23] <Joah> bad idea, i guess
[02:24] <Joah> lol
[02:26] <lordcirth_> very
[02:26] <lordcirth_> You might be able to find the previous .deb in the cache and install it? But honestly I'd reinstall
[02:26] <Joah> i have the .deb files
[02:27] <Joah> i'll paste what it does when i do `dpkg -i`
[02:27] <Joah> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5bMzwN999T/
[02:28] <lordcirth_> Yeah, this is beyond me, sorry.
[02:29] <Joah> no problem, thanks for the help!
[02:29] <Joah> anyone else have any ideas?
[02:35] <sarnold> Joah: *maybe* a do-release-upgrade. Maybe you can drag the whole thing forward. maybe it won't even touch it..
[02:35] <sarnold> Joah: if you want to try the downgrade instead, for this most recent pastebin..
[02:36] <sarnold> Joah: dpkg -S /usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz to find all the packages that package that file, and make sure to change all of those packages to a version with the identical version of that file
[02:37] <Joah> so i would change /usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz to the older version manually?
[02:39] <sarnold> no, you'd find all the packages that dpkg says own that file, and you'd downgrade them all at once
[02:39] <Joah> ah!
[02:39] <Joah> so sorry for the noob question, but what command would i run to downgrade them all at once?
[02:39] <Joah> libc6:i386, libc6:amd64: /usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
[02:39] <Joah> that's what it gave me
[02:40] <sarnold> I think apt-get install ./path/to/old/libc6... ./path/to/old/libc6.i386.deb..
[02:42] <Joah> sarnold, that gives me this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gNz6fWHS2x/
[02:42] <Joah> it looks like libc6 is the issue. is there any way to force that specific package to reinstall, i guess?
[02:43] <sarnold> Joah: try adding in paths for the older versions of libc-bin, libc-bin-dev, libc6-dev, libc6-dbg etc
[02:45] <sarnold> depending upon how well your system is working, maybe just apt-get install libc6=2.27-3ubuntu1 libc-bin=2.27-3ubuntu1 libc-dev-bin=2.27-3ubuntu1 locales=2.27-3ubuntu1 libc6:i386=2.27-3ubuntu1 libc6-dbg=2.27-3ubuntu1 libc6-dev=2.27-3ubuntu1
[02:52] <Joah> sarnold, that almost worked
[02:52] <Joah> it gave me the NEWS.gz error
[02:53] <sarnold> Joah: where it says "which is different from other instances of package" what packages are listed there?
[02:53] <Joah>  trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz', which is different from other instances of package libc6:amd64
[02:54] <sarnold> try adding libc6:amd64=2.27-3ubuntu1 to the long command line
[02:54] <Joah> same error
[02:55] <Joah> should i try manually replacing NEWS.gz?
[02:55] <sarnold> dang. no, I don't think that would move you forward
[02:56] <Joah> it did
[02:56] <Joah>  trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz', which is different from other instances of package libc6:amd64
[02:56] <sarnold> woah really
[02:56] <Joah> yeah
[02:56] <sarnold> alright, keep going then :D
[02:56] <Joah> weirdly enough
[02:56] <sarnold> not at all what I expected
[03:00] <tacomaster> is it possible to run private internet access on a ubuntu server 18.04?
[03:02] <Joah> sarnold, well
[03:02] <Joah> i got a lot further
[03:03] <Joah> now i gave me this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sjqjJqtk5z/
[03:03] <sarnold> Joah: I've *never* seen that one. wow.
[03:03] <Joah> however
[03:03] <Joah> when re-running the command you gave me
[03:03] <sarnold> Joah: run the command again? see if it says the same thing>?
[03:03] <Joah> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/srPN7fc2gF/
[03:04] <sarnold> YESYESYESY
[03:04] <sarnold> Joah: awesome :D
[03:04] <Joah> thank you so much, man
[03:04] <Joah> you're a lifesaver
[03:04] <sarnold> you're probably not quite done
[03:04] <sarnold> try an apt-get install -f
[03:04] <Joah> yup
[03:04] <Joah> no issues
[03:04] <sarnold> dude
[03:04] <sarnold> well done
[03:04] <Joah> i'm worried that something else is broken, though
[03:05] <sarnold> maybe debsums -sa ?
[03:05] <Delphin> lordcirth_: find anything?
[03:06] <Joah> sarnold, only one issue with chrome
[03:06] <Joah> so i should be good, right?
[03:06] <lordcirth_> Delphin, wasn't really looking, no.
[03:06] <sarnold> Joah: yeah, sounds good to me :)
[03:07] <Joah> thanks again, sarnold
[03:07] <Joah> i'm gonna reboot
[03:07] <sarnold> good luck, hope we're right :D
[03:07] <Joah> if i'm not back in a few... r.i.p. this install
[03:12] <Joah> :D
[03:13] <Thr0r> Fix one thing and another issue pops up... Now I get "No adapters available" - BlueTooth. What could cause that? I was using it earlier today before I did some changes to my partitions and stuff..
[03:15] <Thr0r> I have checked in Bios - nothing about Bluetooth there - but set it back to default - didn't help..
[03:36] <crankharder> hi, during a 18.04 server install, my VM had a functioning network config.  but after booting for the first time, all I have is lo - is there a way to have ubuntu automatically reconfigure the network?
[03:36] <crankharder> 'ip a' shows a second device (but no ip address)
[03:38] <lordcirth_> crankharder, edit the files in /etc/netplan
[03:38] <crankharder> doesn't sound 'automatic'
[03:38] <crankharder> how come the intaller can set it up correctly, but the installed system can't?
[03:39] <lordcirth_> crankharder, Not sure.
[03:40] <lordcirth_> crankharder, you can also try just running 'netplan apply'
[04:03] <Gallomimia> cpu fan at zero == bad??
[04:04] <Gallomimia> one of my sensors on the motherboard says -128C
[04:04] <Gallomimia> unlikely.
[04:04] <Gallomimia> i think a reboot is in order. suspend is not my friend
[04:08] <Gallomimia> much better...
[04:09] <Gallomimia> wish i knew more about what the smeg is happening when i press the power button to suspend. it's a motherboard option. things don't seem to wake up properly. i get strange graphics artefacts...
[04:12] <cupcake90> Gallomimia: You can change power button actions in power options
[04:18] <Gallomimia> cupcake90, i did... it seems like a handy thing to let it suspend. it's waking that seems to be doing strange things
[04:18] <Gallomimia> usually i prefer not to do that, but keeping this system always online isn't great right now. heat factory
[04:19] <Gallomimia> i just... still don't know what suspend really means. it doesn't save the state to disk and reboot. no swap enabled. what kind of low power mode is this??
[04:20] <cupcake90> Gallomimia: hmm strange laptop is heating up and still fan not working, there must be fan issue or something
[04:20] <Gallomimia> it's a desktop
[04:20] <Gallomimia> the fan is running again. the temperature readings look normal
[04:21] <cupcake90> Gallomimia: Doesnt matter I think latest systems comes with automatic fan on smps and cpu
[04:28] <Gallomimia> this board is i think 4 years old
[04:28] <Gallomimia> the fan control is part of the bios/efi
[04:30] <cupcake90> Gallomimia: if the fan is not working at all you can check with alternate power supply I am no hardware expert but I had similar issue with an old board
[04:30] <cupcake90> Lucky for me that was a faulty fan
[04:30] <Gallomimia> it's working now. i'm not even sure if it was simply a faulty readout on the sensors
[04:31] <Gallomimia> the cpu temp was reading at 15 and 18C which is pretty much impossible too
[04:31] <Gallomimia> ambient is warmer than that. there's no way it could be colder
[04:32] <Gallomimia> reboot was a wise thing to do. i'm just left wondering what was up after waking from suspend/sleep
[04:32] <cupcake90> Try burn the cpu with some bench tools and see temp variations
[04:33] <Gallomimia> it's not the same kind of suspend i think. it has to be some kind of hardware thing. and this motherboard is just not a friend for linux based OS
[04:34] <Gallomimia> grief at every step. and to make matters worse i have a pair of EVO840's for some speediness. complete with firmware bugs. they don't have any non-windows updaters big thanks samsung. and even so i have read that the firmware updates make the issue worse, not better
[04:35] <Gallomimia> i'm never giving that company another dime. i have used their full range of products and... just, puke.
[04:35] <Gallomimia> tv's stereos, washing machines, ssd's. all have software that should have failed first year
[04:35] <cupcake90> dont expect enterprises quality in home products
[04:36] <Gallomimia> i do expect home quality in their products.
[04:36] <Gallomimia> falls short. every time
[04:37] <Gallomimia> okay i'll launch a CPU taxing program to "benchmark" it. it's called.... Factorio
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic | cupcake90 Gallomimia
[04:47] <swarajpande4> hey
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu support swarajpande4
[04:47] <swarajpande4> im new to irc :(
[04:48] <swarajpande4> struggling a bit
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> swarajpande4: for irc help you can ask in #freenode for ubuntu support questions here in #ubuntu
[04:48] <swarajpande4> oh thanks man
[04:48] <swarajpande4> really appreciate it
[05:23] <johnc--> hi, did anyone knows whether 192.168.x.x are marked as localhost by ICAAN ? Can i safely assumed that all IP's starting with 192.168.x are localhost ?
[05:34] <blackflow> johnc--: yes and no. Yes, <IP_ADDRESS>/16 range is so called "non-routable", RFC 1918 range, so public routers _probably_ won't ever know how to route  that.  no, ICANN has nothing to do with "localhost" name, and public DNS services will often add a record for "localhost" if you query them directly. I doubt it'd ever go through root DNS servers.
[05:38] <blackflow> johnc--: also "localhost" is traditionally <IP_ADDRESS>, not <IP_ADDRESS>/16, and some would say teh entire /24, /16 or even /8 range of that subnet, and by default set via /etc/hosts of pretty much every distro.
[05:38] <johnc--> i c. thank you.
[05:40] <johnc--> naut
[05:40] <johnc--> sorry, wrong key.
[05:52] <nwe> hello, A question, is squid 3.5 compiled with ssl_bump or must I rebuild the package?
[05:53] <blackflow> nwe: doesn't `squid -v` list compile time options?
[05:54] <nwe> looks like I must rebuild it
[05:54] <nwe> grep ssl_bump didn't give me anything :/
[06:00] <nwe> stupid question can I build bionic package on an xenial system?
[06:08] <blackflow> nwe: in general, if you build from .dsc / deb-src and it builds and runs fine with xenial's deps and libraries, then sure.
[06:09] <blackflow> nwe: question is only how many dependencies would you need to pull down as well and whether there'd be conflict. alternatively, use containers.
[06:17] <shonhadow> pulseaudio : Depends: libpulse0 (= 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.2) but 1:12.2-9~bionic1 is to be installed.How to fix this?
[06:18] <blackflow> shonhadow: are you mixing repos/PPAs?
[06:18] <shonhadow> no
[06:19] <shonhadow> when i try to install libpulse,it says it exists
[06:20] <shonhadow> libpulse0 is already the newest version (1:12.2-9~bionic1)
[06:20] <blackflow> !info libpulse0 bionic
[06:21] <blackflow> I'm pretty sure you are using some PPAs there that are conflicting...
[06:21] <shonhadow> before that i tried to install pulseeffects.Now i have removed it from software sources and from system
[06:22] <blackflow> and you ran apt update after that?
[06:22] <shonhadow> yes
[06:22] <blackflow> what does `apt-cache policy libpulse0`  say?
[06:22] <blackflow> !pastebin
[06:24] <shonhadow> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rkmqxtnpPS/
[06:27] <blackflow> shonhadow: run `apt install --reinstall libpulse0`.  if that doesn't change it to version 11.1-1ubuntu7.2, run `apt clean` and try again.
[06:28] <shonhadow> okay
[06:31] <shonhadow> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dR6BpRJ73X/
[06:31] <shonhadow> didnt fix
[06:32] <blackflow> apt clean withtout any other argument, but I suppose that worked anyway if it didn't error out.   okay, try forcing the version.    apt install --reinstall libpulse0-11.1-ubuntu7.2.
[06:32] <blackflow> (without that trailing dot)
[06:33] <blackflow> shonhadow: sorry, = instead of first -     like this:    apt install --reinstall libpulse0=11.1-ubuntu7.2
[06:36] <shonhadow> blackflow: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GsVrqNQkWH/
[06:38] <blackflow> shonhadow: what ubuntu version are you on?
[06:38] <shonhadow> 18.04
[06:39] <blackflow> shonhadow: ah, my typo.    libpulse0=1:11.1-1ubuntu7.2     I forgot to include that 1:
[06:39] <blackflow> now this should reinstall libpulse0 and its correct dependencies, from official repos. do you have anything else installed from that PPA?
[06:42] <shonhadow> list of dependencies where like 10 to 12
[06:42] <shonhadow> sudo apt install pulseaudio pulseeffects --install-recommends
[06:42] <shonhadow> cant remember what packages
[06:45] <blackflow> shonhadow: you can look that up through /var/log/apt/history.log
[07:44] <shonhadow> blackflow: reinstalling that libpulse package took me to tty session and lightdm wont load
[09:01] <nonamme> Hi, sombone here is using WSL?
[09:01] <nonamme> sombody*
[09:01] <nonamme> somebody*
[09:01] <nonamme> typing is hard
[09:01] <blackflow> !wsl
[09:03] <nonamme> I do not need installation instruction, just have other question, but I will go to correct channel
[09:04] <blackflow> nonamme: "For discussion and support, see ...."
[09:05] <LACampbell> hello. is the usb-creator-gtk thing legacy now? It doesn't let you select ISOs, so maybe there's a different way
[09:05] <nonamme> blackflow: ?
[09:06] <blackflow> nonamme: what bot posted is not just about installation instructions. re-read teh part that starts with "For discussion and support, ..."
[09:06] <nonamme> blackflow: what did I write at 10:03:53 ? re-read it
[09:07] <blackflow> what timezone?
[09:07] <nonamme> GMT 00:00
[09:08] <blackflow> nonamme: great. then you know what to do ;)
[09:08] <nonamme> blackflow: :*
[09:10] <EriC^^> LACampbell: what are you trying to create, there might be an easier way
[09:11] <LACampbell> hi EriC^^ . just a bootable usb stick. also tried downloading unetbootin but the PPA is bad. not my day today
[09:11] <LACampbell> anyway just want to know if usb-creator is still the preferred way before I spend an hour googling
[09:13] <HiDeHo> Hi all how to set up permissions for ntfs file system so it will mount
[09:13] <EriC^^> LACampbell: have you considered using dd to make the bootable usb?
[09:20] <Chukk_> Hey, a quick question. When I want to uninstall mate-dictionary from the mate-utils bundle, do I have to remove the whole bundle and reinstall the packages I want?
[09:28] <acebrianjuan> Hi folks
[09:29] <acebrianjuan> How can I pass an environment variable to a program that is running with sudo?
[09:30] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: sudo program ENV_VARIABLE_NAME
[09:30] <acebrianjuan> I'd like to keep the nominal value of the OMP_NUM_THREADS env variable
[09:30] <uio> Hello - just did an install of Lubuntu 18.04 LTS on an eeePC with LUKS. When I boot the LUKS password prompt and the Lubuntu logo behind are very dim. I can use the adjust dimness key to change this, ut I don't get why this is even then. If I do nothing and enter the password, it autmatically continues the boot process and the dimness is resolved. How can I make the default LUKS prompt brightness correct permanently? Thanks.
[09:30] <acebrianjuan> nonamme: that simple?
[09:31] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: yes
[09:32] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: but you need to add $VAR_NAME
[09:32] <nonamme> I missed $
[09:36] <acebrianjuan> nonamme: so if I do: sudo program $OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 this should do?
[09:37] <uio> Would it be better to ask in #Lubuntu?
[09:38] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: `sudo --preserve-env=OMP_NUM_THREADS {command}` or `sudo OMP_NUM_THREADS=$OMP_NUM_THREADS {command}` (the second one is rather ugly IMHO)
[09:38] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: so if you want to pass '1' to your program just pass 1
[09:39] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: but if you want pass $VARIABLE just sudo program $VARIABLE
[09:39] <nonamme> acebrianjuan: sudo program 1
[09:39] <ayekat> nonamme: I think they want to pass an environment variable, not a command line argument
[09:40] <acebrianjuan> nonamme: no, I need to preserve the env variable as ayekat said
[09:40] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: thank you
[09:40] <nonamme> ayekat: thanks, missunderstand
[09:41] <ayekat> no problem
[09:44] <unimatrix9> hi all you good people..
[09:44] <unimatrix9> how can i get a snap to acces usb webcam ?
[09:45] <unimatrix9> ( snapcraft - scratux for school )
[09:48] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: I am getting the error '--preserve-env' doesn't allow an argument
[09:49] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: hmm... lemme check if that was a recent addition
[09:51] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: ah yes, it appears that --preserve-env=[…] was only added recently (according to https://manpages.debian.org/testing/sudo/sudo.8.en.html, 1.8.19 doesn't have it, but 1.8.27 does)
[09:51] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: what version does `sudo --version` show?
[09:52] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: 1.8.10p3
[09:52] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: I am reading the man page for sudo
[09:53] <ayekat> well, then I guess you'll have to go with the `sudo ENV={value} {command}` syntax for now
[09:53] <acebrianjuan> the --preserve-env option does not require an argument indeed
[09:53] <acebrianjuan> it keeps all the env-variables
[09:53] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: but... 1.8.10p3 - what version of ubuntu is that? ^^ according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sudo, even 16.04 already has 1.8.16
[09:54] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: yes, but on more recent versions, it takes an optional parameter, where you list the envvars you want to keep
[09:54] <ayekat> acebrianjuan: see the man page I linked above
[09:54] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: Ubuntu 16.04
[09:55] <acebrianjuan> maybe I need to run an upgrade soon
[09:55] <acebrianjuan> ayekat: thanks for the help mate
[09:56] <ayekat> you're welcome
[10:24] <uio> How to resolve brightness issue at boot?
[10:33] <cupcake90> uio: I followed this https://askubuntu.com/questions/819320/screen-brightness-0-at-login-dims-at-boot
[10:38] <uio> cupcake90, Thanks, I tried https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=192261 with acpi_backlight=vendor to no avail. I did update-grub.
[10:40] <jeremy31> uio, if you have just intel graphics you might have to use i915.invert_brightness=1
[10:41] <cupcake90> uio: had the same issue i followed that same thread did not work jeremy31: I have intel too
[10:42] <b1ack0p> i have intel graphics too. what is the issue?
[10:43] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: Low brightness at grub screen
[10:43] <cupcake90> ubuntu 18.04
[10:43] <b1ack0p> my screen already dim i didnt notice that
[10:44] <b1ack0p> yes using 18.04
[10:44] <b1ack0p> how to increase brightness in general?
[10:44] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: No one cares thats the issue :D
[10:44] <b1ack0p> i thought it s my screen. CCFL not LED unfortunately
[10:45] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: after boot it lights up but on grub menu  brighness too low
[10:45] <b1ack0p> hmm
[10:46] <b1ack0p> :~$ ls /sys/class/backlight/
[10:46] <b1ack0p> acpi_video0  intel_backlight
[10:46] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: I have only intel_backlight
[10:48] <b1ack0p> cupcake90: did u add < GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=intel_backlight" > ?
[10:48] <jeremy31> Can the FN combo be used to increase backlight in grub menu?
[10:49] <b1ack0p> anyone using ThinkPad here like me?
[10:49] <uio> jeremy31, Yeah, if I hit the brightness keys the problem is solved, just seems like I shouldn't have to on every reboot.
[10:49] <b1ack0p> uio: did u edit grub conf ?
[10:49] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: Yes I did that on 16.04 i forgot but Its was fixed for me but never tried after upgrade
[10:49] <sentiment> hello. with certain mkv vids the gpu temp rockets up
[10:49] <sentiment> until the system shuts down
[10:49] <b1ack0p> ok let me try
[10:50] <sentiment> how can I diagnose the problem
[10:50] <sentiment> ?
[10:50] <uio> black0p yep
[10:50] <uio> This was not an issue for me with 16.04
[10:51] <uio>  And now is in 18.04
[10:51] <cupcake90> uio thanks for reminding me also I edited grub cannot reboot now :D
[10:51] <uio> cupcake90, lol
[10:51] <b1ack0p> uio: any difference after editing grub conf ?
[10:52] <uio> b1ack0p, No. It didn't work.
[10:52] <b1ack0p> weird
[10:52] <b1ack0p> do u also have intel?
[10:52] <benergy> Hey guys, I am setting up a laptop for someone who shouldn't have to do any maintenance. It's running Ubuntu 18.04, with Cinnamon as the desktop manager. I would like the system to do these three things exactly: (1) to pull and install security updates on a daily basis; (2) to pull in and install other updates either rarely (once a month) or never; (3) never ask the user anything.
[10:52] <uio> I put acpi_backlight=vendor.
[10:53] <uio> Should I change vendor to intel?
[10:53] <uio> or Asus?
[10:53] <uio> or asus?
[10:53] <b1ack0p> uio: do this ls /sys/class/backlight/
[10:53] <b1ack0p> and tell me what it says in return
[10:53] <benergy> Ubuntu's update manager is mildly confusing there. It does offer the first option all right, but the largest interval I can set for the second point is "two weeks". I have found some instructions online that require me to edit the apt configuration files, but I'm still wondering if there is a simple - preferable GUI (dconf-editor?) - way that just works(TM).
[10:54] <sentiment> god the neverending issues with this os
[10:55] <hugoAgogo> sentiment, thats half the fun right there ;P
[10:55] <cupcake90> uio: vendor thing will not work
[10:55] <uio> sentiment, I know.
[10:55] <cupcake90> for intel anyway
[10:55] <sentiment> I'd hate to go back to Windows, but this is getting pretty frustrating . every other day I have to come here and go to the ubuntu support forums to ask for help
[10:55] <b1ack0p> uio: do this in terminal please : ls /sys/class/backlight/
[10:55] <uio> ls /sys/class/backlight/
[10:55] <b1ack0p> in terminal not here
[10:55] <b1ack0p> .p
[10:56] <b1ack0p> open new terminal
[10:56] <cupcake90> intel_backlight m sure :D
[10:56] <uio> eeepc-wmi  psb-bl
[10:56] <b1ack0p> probably
[10:56] <b1ack0p> huh
[10:56] <b1ack0p> never heard that
[10:56] <cupcake90> well thats new :D
[10:56] <b1ack0p> i didnt expect that return
[10:56] <uio> sentiment, Spend a few days in Debian and Ubuntu will look smooth!
[10:56] <sentiment> how am I supposed to watch this hd mkv video other than rebooting into Windows?
[10:56] <sentiment> uio: true true
[10:57] <cupcake90> sentiment: vlc working for me really well :D
[10:57] <sentiment> vlc is the same
[10:57] <b1ack0p> yes vlc is best
[10:57] <sentiment> it's a low level decoder issue
[10:57] <uio> sentiment, Arch!
[10:57] <uio> lol
[10:57] <uio> So, do I touch the grub file or no?
[10:57] <b1ack0p> sentiment: maybe u need to install codecs?
[10:58] <b1ack0p> uio: well i m not sure about that..
[10:58] <sentiment> no it's playable
[10:58] <uio> Well, it's no big deal. Just the little things that can get rather annoying here and there.
[10:59] <uio> Should just work!
[10:59] <sentiment> but as I said, the gpu temp jumps to 60 centigrade
[10:59] <uio> This isn't gentoo!
[10:59] <uio> 60 is fine, no?
[10:59] <sentiment> I can't enjoy this freakin video without coming here everytime
[10:59] <sentiment> goddamnit
[10:59] <uio> I'm at like 61 now.
[10:59] <sentiment> no the system restarts
[10:59] <uio> sentiment, You on ubuntu?
[10:59] <OerHeks> sentiment, watch your language please, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[10:59] <sentiment> it keeps going up though
[11:00] <sentiment> what? freaking is a curse word?
[11:00] <OerHeks> 60 ' is not that bad, depends on the GPU
[11:00] <uio> sentiment, BTW you can swear a lot more in Debian.
[11:00] <b1ack0p> uio: try this in grub : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=psb-bl"
[11:00] <sentiment> anyways this is some leak bug or something with the gpu drivers
[11:01] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: I did same worked for me in past
[11:01] <sentiment> how can I make vlc use software decoder?
[11:01] <sentiment> back to 10 years ago
[11:01] <b1ack0p> cupcake90: u had asus too?
[11:01] <b1ack0p> uio: after u add the line in grub conf, save it and in terminal sudo update-grub
[11:02] <sentiment> found it
[11:03] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: No dell
[11:03] <uio> Okay going for a reboot. I'll be back if it doesn't work! Thanks for you help either way!
[11:03] <b1ack0p> uio: waiting for result :p
[11:03] <b1ack0p> by the way i am having some issues on wayland
[11:03] <b1ack0p> mouse seems freezing for a second while i am moving around
[11:03] <cupcake90> b1ack0p: Am I the only one still running gnome-flashback
[11:03] <cupcake90> :D
[11:04] <b1ack0p> and when i open firefox it shows black screen for a while and then getting normal
[11:04] <b1ack0p> maybe drivers issue?
[11:04] <b1ack0p> cupcake90: i was use to flashback in previous versions while in unity :p
[11:04] <b1ack0p> not anymore..
[11:04] <b1ack0p> tweaking gnome nowadays :p
[11:04] <cupcake90> :)
[11:05] <b1ack0p> this mouse issue is annoying..
[11:05] <b1ack0p> not smooth
[11:05] <b1ack0p> how can i fix it?
[11:05] <cupcake90> I like gnome but why dont they add simple drag and drop icons to panel
[11:05] <b1ack0p> is it because of wayland?
[11:05] <b1ack0p> cupcake90: no idea.. yes that s annoying..
[11:06] <b1ack0p> also not easy to add icons on desktop..
[11:06] <cupcake90> I cant drop icons to panel its the only reason for me
[11:06] <OerHeks> waylkand uses its own driver protocol, you could file a bugreport, it might help as wayland is still under development
[11:06] <b1ack0p> hmm
[11:06] <benergy> One would think that the Ubuntu update manager (or at least dconf-editor) contain useful options, but nothing...
[11:07] <OerHeks> and icons on desktop, gnome-tweak-tool gives that option AFAIK
[11:07] <b1ack0p> OerHeks: is there anyway to update drivers or install missing drivers in wayland?
[11:08] <OerHeks> i am just typing wayland uses its own driver protocol, so no?
[11:08] <b1ack0p> ok
[11:10] <blackflow> well you do need driver support for it. that's why nvidia proprietary doesn't work with it yet.
[11:10] <b1ack0p> blackflow: what about intel drivers?
[11:11] <blackflow> b1ack0p: I assume it's supporting it, I just don't know to what extent
[11:11] <uio> No luck.
[11:11] <b1ack0p> uio: :/
[11:11] <blackflow> anyway wayland is totally not ready for regular use. that mouse lag is the prime example.
[11:11] <b1ack0p> blackflow: ok then i better get back xorg
[11:11] <OerHeks> intel gives kerneldrivers for a long time now
[11:11] <blackflow> uio: wait, something doesn't work with lubuntu now? :)))
[11:12] <uio> blackflow, That's right, but one should consider the magnitude.
[11:12] <b1ack0p> brb for reboot. i wanna check my grub menu as well :p
[11:13] <blackflow> uio: just... lol.
[11:13] <uio> blackflow, Debian : zero display on laptop despite seven hours. Lubuntu a dimness at LUKS unlock that lasts 20 seconds.
[11:13] <uio> blackflow, See the difference?
[11:13] <uio> One works, one doesn't
[11:14] <uio> blackflow, Broken Lubuntu = Broken Debian kinda deal. Anyway. Are you for help with Debian?
[11:15] <uio> *Broken Lubuntu = Working Debian
[11:15] <b1ack0p> back
[11:15] <uio> b1ack0p, So,
[11:15] <uio> ?
[11:15] <uio> What did you find out?
[11:15] <b1ack0p> i didnt notice any brightness issue on grub menu. looks normal i think as my old CCFL screen is already dim
[11:15] <uio> b1ack0p, hmm.
[11:15] <b1ack0p> yep
[11:16] <b1ack0p> btw i am back to xorg, feels smooth and no mouse lag
[11:16] <uio> b1ack0p, I mean, as I said, this is not really a big deal, probably not worth any time because it's just a quick password prompt and it goes away quickly.
[11:16] <uio> For me anyway.
[11:16] <b1ack0p> uio: also i check Fn keys to check brightness and grub menu was on the highest brightness..
[11:17] <b1ack0p> uio: maybe it is problem for some vendors..
[11:17] <uio> b1ack0p, I can increase brightness with the Fn key, I just have to do it every time.
[11:17] <b1ack0p> already reported bug in launchpad
[11:17] <cupcake90> issue solved? or ubuntu crashed I missed chats
[11:17] <b1ack0p> in 2013
[11:17] <blackflow> uio: naw, debian works too, just uses "wrong" VGA output. see the difference? ;) but neway, hope you'll take an important lesson from this:  hardware support, edge cases. eeepc is notorious for that.
[11:18] <b1ack0p> uio: i dont need to increase with Fn key which is already highest in grub menu..
[11:18] <b1ack0p> cupcake90: not issue for me :p
[11:20] <uio> blackflow, I don't know for you, but when I have a laptop with no screen, I consider something to not be working. And I hope Debian learns to realise that when something doesn't work in Debian, it's not the hardware's issue seeing as other Linux distros get their stuff together! Anyway, I think Debian is off-topic here. See ya.
[11:21] <uio> b1ack0p, Highest in grub menu? Sorry, what do you mean?
[11:21] <b1ack0p> uio: i mean i dont need to increase  brightness with Fn
[11:22] <b1ack0p> in grub menu
[11:22] <b1ack0p> it s not dim i mea
[11:22] <b1ack0p> n
[11:22] <uio> b1ack0p, Okay, I see.
[11:22] <uio> b1ack0p, Yeah, for me it's not.
[11:22] <b1ack0p> but u said u have to increase brightness with Fn key?
[11:22] <uio> b1ack0p, Right, because it's too dim.
[11:23] <b1ack0p> it is already at highest brightness setting for me when i check with Fn key
[11:24] <uio> b1ack0p, I think I'm maybe not being very clear... When I boot, at LUKS unlock the screen is dim. If I hit the FN brighter key, it gets brighter.
[11:24] <b1ack0p> so u have an issue
[11:24] <uio> b1ack0p, I think so, but minor.
[11:25] <b1ack0p> yes minor
[11:25] <uio> b1ack0p, I'd like to solve it. I'm up for a few lines pasted into grub if they'll work.
[11:26] <b1ack0p> ok
[11:34] <benergy> Anyone? :)
[11:39] <jeremy31> uio:  there might be a setting in the UEFI/BIOS as the brightness in grub  menu won't be affected by kernel parameters
[11:40] <blackflow> benergy: anyone what? if you wanna repeat your question every now and than (which is okay), then perhaps stick it into a pastebin. can't expect people to hunt for what you asked sometime in the distant past.
[11:40] <blackflow> s/than/then/
[11:43] <benergy> blackflow: I was asking re automatic upgrades, and I wanted to avoid repeating so as not to annoy you guys. But you're right, it's probably easier that way:
[11:43] <benergy> I am setting up a laptop for someone who shouldn't have to do any maintenance. It's running Ubuntu 18.04, with Cinnamon as the desktop manager. I would like the system to do these three things exactly: (1) to pull and install security updates on a daily basis; (2) to pull in and install other updates either rarely (once a month) or never; (3) never ask the user anything.
[11:44] <Makaveli7> unattended updates?
[11:44] <benergy> I've been researching a lot, and still find the Ubuntu update manager mildly confusing. Also, I can't seem to disable "other" upgrades there - the maximum interval is "2 weeks".
[11:44] <Makaveli7> there is a wiki page for that I think
[11:46] <benergy> Makaveli7: True, but it seems to cause problems elsewhere, like stalling shutdown and potentially leaving corrupt states. Also I was hoping for something like a tool (or a dconf-editor setting), that "just does it" without having to edit config files. Maybe that's hoping too much ^^
[11:49] <coconut> benergy: there is cron-apt for this, though, i have never used that.
[11:52] <coconut> benergy: just try and re-ask your question every 30 minutes or so (sometimes it can take a while)
[11:52] <benergy> coconut: Thanks, understood! :)
[11:53] <Makaveli7> benergy I don't think there is a tool for that. You need to edit config file fot that I think. But you can choose to update only security fixes and blacklist packages if you would like
[11:54] <benergy> Makaveli7: The other option I was considering was to write a script that updates the system on startup, and disable both "unattended-upgrades" and the Ubuntu built-in manager.
[11:54] <uio> jeremy31, Hmmm, even though I didn't have this issue in Lubuntu 16.04 ?
[11:55] <benergy> Yet it's somewhat annoying that the Ubuntu manager won't let me choose "never" for "other" upgrades (maximum is "2 weeks").
[11:56] <cupcake90> working well for me ubuntu flashback ;d
[12:08] <tomreyn> in case benergy returns with more patience, the interval can be freely configured in the users' dconf db at /com/ubuntu/update-notifier/regular-auto-launch-interval
[12:35] <thatlizdude> Hello, does anyone know how to fix a scrolling bug on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS where if I scroll let's say on Chrome all the way to bottom, and switch to VS Code, as soon as I start scrolling on VS Code, the file scrolls to the bottom... This doesn't happen with Ubuntu 19.04, but currently I can't really use Ubuntu 18.04 LTS because it scrolls so much...
[12:38] <leftyfb> thatlizdude: https://askubuntu.com/a/966894
[12:39] <thatlizdude> that person's asking for a feature, I'm asking about a bug
[12:40] <leftyfb> you're right. Sorry, misread
[12:40] <leftyfb> I swear I had this issue and resolved it. Can't remember how though
[12:41] <thatlizdude> I tried using imwheel, but that gave me weird scrolling jumps when scrolling with touchpad, also not idea...
[12:41] <thatlizdude> *ideal
[12:41] <thatlizdude> it doesn't happen on Wayland though, so maybe I could use that?
[12:42] <tomreyn> thatlizdude: does this happen with any software which is in ubuntu by default? have installed any gnome extensions which didn't come from ubuntu (via apt, packaged as debian packages)?
[12:42] <tomreyn> *have you ;)
[12:43] <thatlizdude> I haven't installed any extensions, no, this is a clean install
[12:44] <thatlizdude> and it looks like it doesn't happen with the default software, I just tried with Settings and Files
[12:46] <ioria> thatlizdude, not sure it's your case (https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/28795); the problem seems to be the mutter version on bionic ( a newer version fixes it)
[12:47] <thatlizdude> I don't think it's a VS Code issue, as it doesn't happen in Ubuntu 19.04 and when I scroll in terminal over a Chrome window, the Chrome window will also scroll as soon as I start scrolling on it
[12:47] <thatlizdude> I think it can be fixed by updating gnome-shell, but I can't really do that on a LTS release
[12:49] <ioria> thatlizdude, 19.04 uses another version of mutter
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:59] <thatlizdude> so should I just use Wayland then
[13:01] <thatlizdude> is Ubuntu going to switch to Wayland eventually?
[13:01] <tomreyn> likely sometime in the future, but that's not set in stone.
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !wayland | thatlizdude
[13:02] <tomreyn> and that's only 17.10, and it should be considered a matter of the past (it's EOL).
[13:06] <thatlizdude> well on 18.04 it isn't default, so did they move away from it then?
[13:20] <MWM> is there any way past a login loop?  I should autologin, but after the last restart I cannot get past the login screen even with the proper password.  I can ssh into the machine from elsewhere on the local network though
[13:20] <cfhowlett> MWM, version??
[13:21] <MWM> 19.04 Budgie
[13:22] <cfhowlett> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F57-gTlDwCc  mwm
[13:24] <MWM> thanks.  Ill work through these steps and report back
[13:26] <thatlizdude> thanks everyone :)
[13:29] <MWM> still working on following the steps.  Is there a known reason for login loops like that? Im glad there is a workaround atleast
[13:31] <MWM> ive ruled out storage space issues and faulty drives.  no xsession-erros or anything. Just wondering if this is a whoosie or a symptom of a bigger issue
[13:37] <MWM> still got the login loop after following the vid.  Any other ideas before I nuke this install and start fresh?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> I wouldn't nuke it.  the fact that you can ssh in suggests a simple (though obscure) fix
[13:39] <linux8_659> hi ,I used to like encrypting /boot partition for fun and to secure kernel ,new to uefi though and following: "grub2 - Ubuntu full disk encryption with encrypted _boot - Ask Ubuntu" on ubuntu 19.04 it doens t work ,been at it for hours ,anyone has experience with this???tks
[13:49] <fairfax112233> how to install fetch tool in ubuntu
[13:50] <fairfax112233> i know its an putdated tool ,,, but i want to install it
[13:50] <fairfax112233> outdated*
[13:50] <ayekat> fairfax112233: what is that "fetch tool"? have you got any link?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> https://askubuntu.com/questions/334055/i-am-trying-to-install-package-fetch
[13:51] <fairfax112233> another link
[13:52] <fairfax112233> <ayekat> its kinda same as curl or wget
[13:53] <fairfax112233> or maybe a away to chage the user agent in curl or wget ?
[13:54] <ayekat> fairfax112233: curl(1) describes the --user-agent option - so I'd say yes
[13:54] <legreffier> fairfax112233: curl -A 'blah' url
[13:55] <legreffier> fetch looks like it's abandoned
[13:55] <fairfax112233> why they don't just make the user agent related to the machine hostname
[13:56] <ayekat> that's not how the user agent information works
[13:56] <fairfax112233> what is thec diffult user agent for curl ?
[13:56] <fairfax112233> the*
[13:58] <fairfax112233> --user-agent <--- thnx
[13:58] <ayekat> fairfax112233: what is your goal, actually? I have a difficult time reading and understanding your messages, but some context may help
[13:58] <fairfax112233> i got blocked when using curl or wget ..... other than that browser works fin
[13:58] <fairfax112233> fine*
[13:59] <ayekat> "blocked" how? by the website operator?
[13:59] <fairfax112233> by an internet provider or router
[13:59] <fairfax112233> not sure
[13:59] <hugoAgogo> vutral, pastebin the error (blocking message) you get .. and do 'wget -v <yoursite>' and pastebin the results of that
[14:00] <fairfax112233> when i connect to diffrent wifi spot it works fine
[14:01] <ayekat> fairfax112233: yes, but what do you mean with "blocked"? what are the symptoms you are seeing? does the website give you an error message? do you have problems resolving the host IP address? ...?
[14:02] <fairfax112233> ayekat .... no data coming from it .... its hang only
[14:03] <fairfax112233> httppie too blocked
[14:03] <fairfax112233> thats why i want to try fetch
[14:04] <ayekat> what kind of things are you trying to download, though?
[14:04] <fairfax112233> http fetcher .... won't make install ..... got error
[14:05] <ayekat> randomly trying out obscure tools nobody's ever heard of is not going to resolve your problem
[14:05] <fairfax112233> had to set up http fetch before fetch
[14:05] <fairfax112233> http fetcher*
[14:06] <ayekat> ... alright, until you decide to actually explain us your goal and the exact problems you are facing, I'm going to assume you're doing some shady things, and I won't help you further - good luck!
[14:06] <fairfax112233> any ways will try the --user-agent tomorow when i am back to that wifi spot
[14:07] <fairfax112233> its simply wont load in data from any web site
[14:07] <fairfax112233> got it ?
[14:08] <fairfax112233> load any*
[14:08] <ayekat> from *any* website?
[14:08] <fairfax112233> now i am in diffrenty wifi spot ...every things works fine
[14:10] <fairfax112233> i dought its the user agent ... because all wget , curl and httppie ...got the same trouble ,,,, and the website is not blocked
[14:12] <teward> that you know of, fairfax112233.  Upstream from you there could be ISP-level blocking or some other type of issue with websites being unreachable unrelated to 'content filtration' or 'blocking'
[14:12] <ayekat> so the websites are accessible through your webbrowser, but curl/wget/... hang?
[14:12] <ayekat> what web browser are you using?
[14:13] <fairfax112233> chrome
[14:13] <fairfax112233> i would try firefox tomorow too to make sure
[14:13] <teward> if it works on one wifi location but not the first one, then the issue isn't Ubuntu related most likely, it's related to that network.
[14:14] <teward> just saying, but this might be an issue "beyond your control" and beyond our ability to assist with fixing
[14:14] <ayekat> yeah, but it's weird that the web is accessible with one tool but not with another
[14:14] <fairfax112233> yea exactly
[14:14] <fairfax112233> scare shit of me
[14:15] <ayekat> fairfax112233: have you checked with something like tcpdump or wireshark, just to see if your HTTP requests actually leave your machine?
[14:16] <fairfax112233> i dun know what tcpdump is
[14:18] <ayekat> both are tools for listening to traffic going through a network interface - they can help you see what is going on network-wise
[14:19] <gimmic> Anyone have a preferred ssh connection manager for 19.04? Recently upgraded from LTS and everything seems to use the old python-vte package
[14:19] <fairfax112233> it probably packge filtering from the net provider or router firewal
[14:19] <teward> fairfax112233: which is why it would work on one network but not the one you're having issues with, yes.
[14:20] <teward> fairfax112233: packet-level sniffing would be a good example of how they might block things, or some other type of filtration activity.  Esp. if it "just works" on a different network
[14:20] <teward> but you wouldn't be able to see that 'filtering' happening necessarily from your system
[14:20] <fairfax112233> used to work fine just few days ago ... because its a coffe shop... i am hanging there alot
[14:20] <fairfax112233> just today had the issue
[14:21] <ayekat> they won't be able to do packet-level filtering for user agent information for encrypted connections, though
[14:21] <ayekat> fairfax112233: is it the same for https websites?
[14:21] <fairfax112233> i tried many website ... none of working
[14:21] <teward> ayekat: they could be if they're doing some type of MITM for HTTPS connections
[14:21] <teward> fairfax112233: what error do you get if any?
[14:22] <fairfax112233> didn't tried firefox
[14:22] <Cheez> teward: any decent browser would detect that for sites like google that use key pinning though
[14:22] <fairfax112233> just chrome
[14:22] <fairfax112233> i didn't modified any thing ... just changed the wiwspot ... and every thing back to normal
[14:22] <teward> Cheez: ehhh, not really, we have MITM in line with web proxies here that between system <--> proxy it uses its own internal CA that's trusted, and between proxy <--> Google it verifies
[14:22] <fairfax112233> wifi spot*
[14:22] <teward> Cheez: so I'm not sure it 'preloads' all the key pinning bits
[14:23] <ayekat> teward: you'd need to install your internal CAs on the client machines to pull that off
[14:23] <teward> let's stop talking about what I already *know*
[14:23] <gimmic> what a masturbatory statement
[14:23] <teward> ayekat: the reason I asked if they see an error is because if they DON'T have that CA cert
[14:23] <teward> it will not function and error for them
[14:23] <teward> just a thought about POSSIBLE symptoms
[14:24] <teward> but as they can't test right now and can test "tomorrow" not sure what more we can get from here currently
[14:24] <teward> other than theoretical statements about what COULD be the problem
[14:24] <ayekat> teward: well yes, but essentially it would mean that that coffeeshop would make HTTPS impossible if they tried that, because no sanely configured machine (and that includes most end-user windows/macos setups) will accept foreign CA certificates just like that
[14:25] <ayekat> I mean - we can't exclude it, you're right
[14:26] <teward> ayekat: and therein lies the problem.  (also see my PMs to you, they're relevant but not relevant to this channel at the moment)
[14:27] <fairfax112233> curl need a random header in every rquest
[14:27] <fairfax112233> or a new tool must be made
[14:28] <fairfax112233> i probably have to make it myself then re compile it .... damn
[14:29] <fairfax112233> we need to use shuf in every linux tool .....damn it protect us uncle linux
[14:34] <fairfax112233> i probably end up making my own distributor
[14:35] <fairfax112233> will call it shuntu
[14:35] <fairfax112233> ;P
[14:36] <fairfax112233> a kali killer .... shuntu
[14:41] <gimmic> so, anyone have a preferred ssh connection manager?
[14:42] <fairfax112233> gimmic , what u need in it
[14:43] <fairfax112233> i dun think there is an ssh connection manger out there
[14:43] <gimmic> mostly just bookmarking all the hosts. I've used gnome-connection-manager for years
[14:43] <gimmic> tabbed ssh, saved credentials, etc
[14:43] <fairfax112233> use last
[14:44] <fairfax112233> the > file.txt
[14:44] <gimmic> I know I can do all that from a plain shell, but having some wrapper around it has been nice
[14:44] <fairfax112233> then*
[14:45] <fairfax112233> last ,,, grep .. sort..sed...cat or prinf ... all you need
[14:45] <fairfax112233> while do .... run it in background amd on start up
[14:45] <fairfax112233> and*
[14:47] <fairfax112233> make it every 5 scond and you good to go
[14:47] <ayekat> gimmic: ~/.ssh/config (see ssh_config(5) for all the stuff you can put in)
[14:47] <gimmic> I know all about ssh core options. Just a UI preference
[14:47] <ayekat> `ssh`? or what do you mean with UI?
[14:48] <gimmic> http://kuthulu.com/gcm/?module=screenshots&lang=
[14:50] <ayekat> well yes, ssh_config does most of the (reasonable) things there just fine
[14:51] <ayekat> ... alright, "logging" (I guess they mean session recording or something?) might be something you'd need an external tool, perhaps
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> gimmic: There is no "best" ssh manager, what works "best" for you is what you should consider. If you are looking for software recommendations or ideas of other applications, it is preferred that you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic. When you have difficulty in with the application of your choosing, this is the right place to ask question and get help for that application.
[15:04] <wasanzy> hello
[15:05] <wasanzy> I have added this to my sudoers file: mailto<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:05] <wasanzy> mail_always on
[15:05] <wasanzy> but when saving the file, I get syntx error.
[15:05] <wasanzy> did I not enter the right syntax?
[15:06] <teward> wasanzy: mailto has to be added to the Defaults entry... did you just put it on its own line or did you add it to the Defaults?
[15:06] <wasanzy> I added it on it's own line
[15:07] <teward> wasanzy: up where it says "Defaults" at the top of the sudoers line, add a new line underneath it: "Defaults mailto destinationaddr"
[15:07] <wasanzy> ok thank you
[15:07] <teward> you need to put " " around the address as well
[15:07] <teward> see `man sudoers` and search for 'mailto' for details
[15:08] <wasanzy> can't I add same entry at that bottom?
[15:08] <teward> you can, but it might be better to just keep all the "Defaults" together since they apply globally AIUI
[15:08] <teward> (globally for a sudo session I mean)
[15:08] <wasanzy> ok
[15:17] <wasanzy> Defaults        mailto<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:17] <wasanzy> Defaults        mail_always on
[15:18] <wasanzy> still giving me syntax error
[15:25] <ioria> wasanzy, try with the equal sign   :  Defaults<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:29] <wasanzy> works, thank you
[15:30] <ioria> ok
[15:33] <cyberpolice> how come there is no system-config-samba package on 19.10
[15:33] <fairfax112233> what the heck linux play station https://imgur.com/a/Yee4DY1
[15:34] <cyberpolice> sorry i mean 19.04
[15:35] <leftyfb> fairfax112233: can we help you with something?
[15:43] <Sven_vB> does Ubuntu have a screen magnifier that does not follow the mouse? I'm trying to align pixels in a layout.
[15:43] <cfhowlett> Sven_vB, pretty sure I saw this tool under the accessibility options
[15:45] <Sven_vB> cfhowlett, in mine (Xfce, xenial), it has a keyboard and mouse tab, but neither look like they have it
[15:46] <BluesKaj> cyberpolice, try /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[15:46] <cyberpolice> BluesKaj: no gui tool?
[15:46]  * Sven_vB tries xzoom
[15:47] <Sven_vB> oh there's also xmag
[15:48] <Sven_vB> looks like xmag fits my needs perfectly.
[15:48] <cfhowlett> it's another ubuntu miracle!  say thank you.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> cyberpolice, nautlius/network /
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:49] <Sven_vB> ah no it's not live
[15:49] <cyberpolice> BluesKaj: oh ok. yeah i forgot about that
[15:51] <mulletman> anyone know how to make smplayer show the video inside the player window instead of opening another separate window to play videos?
[15:51] <mulletman> I have tried to delete all smplayer settings and start all over and of course messed with a bunch of settings but nada
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> mulletman: Try this:
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> Launch SMPlayer and go to Option > Preferences > General > Video (tab). Then select "x11" for Output driver and click on the "Apply" button. (source: https://askubuntu.com/a/1038367)
[15:53] <Sven_vB> xzoom works for me. thanks anyway!
[15:55] <mulletman> pragmaticenigma, thank you!!!! i looked (apparently almost) everywhere and couldnt find anything.
[15:55] <mulletman> question though, why does it say that x11 driver is slower?
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> mulletman: Because X11 acts like a middle man between the application and the display. The other modes are able to bypass X11. Sometimes the driver isn't written well and that is when you get an extra window
[15:58] <mulletman> and i just learned two new things today, again thanks!!!
[16:06] <cyberpolice> dumb question about gnome: how do i see the workspaces overview
[16:17] <gofio> what's the mostly likely reason user/bin/gnome-shell goes nuts with cpu usage? in any ubuntu but ubuntu 18.04 for the matter
[16:24] <tomreyn> cyberpolice: press the super / logo key, then on the right hand side you'll see your workspaces - mouse over and the drawer will unfold.
[16:25] <cyberpolice> ah ok thanks tomreyn . is there a mouse way to do that as well?
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> gofio: Every machine and setup is different. Note the times when you encounter those issues, and check your logs files.
[16:27] <tomreyn> cyberpolice: click on activities top left for the first step
[16:27] <cyberpolice> oh thank you so much!!!
[16:28] <tomreyn> yw
[16:32] <gofio> pragmaticenigma: I'm guessing it all comes down to being a dual core processor https://i.imgur.com/6lfeYD5.png
[16:33] <gofio> "funny" thing though is how it fluctuates
[17:05] <j0h> hey, is there a simple way to test your initramfs script without having to make your system boot into it?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> j0h: didnt you have ubuntu server?
[17:11] <j0h> yea lotuspsychje, sorry thought this questions was generic enough for ubuntu
[17:11] <j0h> should I still ask in the ubuntu-server?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> j0h: we usually like to divide the ubuntu version into its channels, because specific volunteers can help you a better way liek this
[17:12] <j0h> gotcha, will continue to use that channel, thanks
[17:20] <gofio> what's what makes a grub crash not to happen after a few minute wait? in ubuntu 18.04. I got problems from the "journals" it seems, could that be related?
[17:21] <gimmic> pragmaticenigma: I didn't ask for a "best". I asked for opinions on what people preferred
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> gimmic: opinions you can ask/share in #ubuntu-discuss please
[17:22] <gofio> also, what is this process doing? the one in light blue https://i.imgur.com/L6srZRc.png
[17:30] <gofio> maybe some twitter player triggered it
[17:50] <Ecliptica> I'm looking at potentially installing a desktop environment on my server, however I'm concerned about overhead. Is it known which DE is the most lightweight/least resource-intensive?
[17:51] <lordcirth> Ecliptica, there are too many DEs to get a "most". But LXQT is a good option.
[17:51] <pragmaticenigma> XFCE (xubuntu-desktop) and LXQT/LXDE (lubuntu-desktop) are both considered "lighter" weight alternatives to KDE and Gnome
[17:52] <frad> function key + f9 does not hange brightness anymore. ubuntu 19.04 64 bits, what do I do to fix it?
[17:53] <Ecliptica> Thanks for the recommendations :)
[17:53] <frad> the rightness bar appears, but does not respond
[17:57] <cyberpolice> if i unmount a drive, its safe to "eject" or remove the usb?
[17:58] <cyberpolice> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dBKhhHre/
[17:59] <cyberpolice> oops
[17:59] <klab1> @cyberpolice: probably, depending on how you "ejected
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> cyberpolice: on gnome3 you get a warning 'its now safe to unplug'
[17:59] <cyberpolice> i did sudo umount /dev/sdd
[18:00] <cyberpolice> oops /dev/sdd2
[18:00] <klab1> cyberpolice: if it's not a journaled filesystem and there is an open I/O task, that command won't do. You should see what the mount point for your device is. Try "df -h"
[18:01] <cyberpolice> its not there in df -h anymoer
[18:02] <klab1> @cyberpolice: and nothing shows up in "lsof | grep /dev/sdd2"
[18:03] <klab1> @cyberpolice: if nothing comes up when you run that, you should be good. You might need sudo
[18:03] <cyberpolice> i check with sudo lsof | grep "/dev/sdd2" and nothing is there!!
[18:03] <cyberpolice> i am going to remove it now. thanks :)
[18:06] <deltab> sudo lsof /dev/sdd2  should be enough
[18:07] <klab1> @deltab: thank you, yes that's the correct form
[18:08] <deltab> just a bit more efficient
[18:10] <deltab> frad: you could check for error messages in the output of  dmesg  (which shows log messages from the kernel)
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> cyberpolice: in the future, you might want to look into using "udiskctrl unmount --block-device /dev/sdd" ... this is a little safer than calling umount directly
[18:11] <pragmaticenigma> cyberpolice: and use the same command with "mount" to mount the drive. The command will mount the drive in the /media folder and set the mount to your current user's permissions.
[18:16] <frad> deltab, i get a uefi do list error and a usb error, but no brightness ones
[18:27] <amosbird> Hi, why does iperf3 give 5MBps bandwidth while curl a file from the same remote server only gives 1MBps?
[18:28] <OerHeks> live patch does not work, 18.04 + HWE ..
[18:28] <OerHeks> 2nd kernel today, 4.14 and now 4,18
[18:28] <lordcirth> amosbird, you are using iperf3 in tcp mode?
[18:28] <OerHeks> rebooting
[18:30] <gofio> my patch is green now. It's like a traffic light
[18:30] <lordcirth> amosbird, and what is serving the file to curl?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> gofio: leave the offtopic out if this channel please
[18:31] <gofio> lotuspsychje: why haven't you ignored me by now? plz 20:28 <OerHeks> live patch does not work, 18.04 + HWE ..
[18:31] <amosbird> lotuspsychje: iperf3 tcp
[18:32] <amosbird> python2 SimpleHvt
[18:32] <amosbird> python2 SimpleHTTP
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !joke | gofio
[18:33] <gofio> I hope with kiwiirc is easier to ignore than with smuxi
[18:33] <OerHeks> gofio, do not highlight me, thanks
[18:33] <gofio> i did not highlighted you
[18:33] <gofio> i quoted you
[18:34] <OerHeks> oke on ignore now
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> gofio: why dont you go back to ##linux tell your life there?
[18:38] <gofio> long life kiwiirc
[18:41] <lordcirth> amosbird, what is your MTU? Is there a mismatch?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> think they banned him at ##linux, and that takes some doing since they're more tolerant of offtopic chat there
[18:42] <sarnold> if it were just offtopic that'd be better; it was also non-sense and pointless
[20:17] <ash_worksi> flash isn't working on chromium
[20:17] <ash_worksi> dunno why
[20:17] <ash_worksi> according to the check here: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
[20:17] <ash_worksi> it says it's installed by default
[20:17] <ash_worksi> and should work if you explicitly allow it
[20:17] <ash_worksi> which I have
[20:17] <ash_worksi> but the animation doesn't work
[20:19] <OerHeks> maybe there have been changes int he browser, here that animation does not work either
[20:19] <OerHeks> that page is from feb 27, 2019
[20:20] <teward> ash_worksi: their site will recognize Chromium as Chrome and say 'it's by default' but unless you've got pepperflash installed it's not actually shipped with Chromium
[20:20] <teward> Chrome has flash by default.  Chromium doesn't have flash.
[20:24] <ash_worksi> teward: I see... but this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[20:24] <ash_worksi> teward: says pepper is deprecated
[20:25] <teward> you'd still need to install adobe-flashplugin and enable Partners repos first
[20:25] <teward> i try to just not use flash so :p
[20:25] <ash_worksi> I did enable and install
[20:26] <ash_worksi> (although weirdly, when I attempt to enable Partners (source code) it greys out before not just ungreying and not selecting anything
[20:26] <teward> ash_worksi: you don't need the 'source' repo, you just need the binaries / nonsource repo
[20:27] <ash_worksi> well, w/e that's checked
[20:27] <OerHeks> 3 steps, sudo apt -y install pepperflashplugin-nonfree To update Pepperflash, use: sudo update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install After the installation of Pepper Flash Player on Ubuntu 18l04, make sure Flash is allowed to run in:  chrome://settings/content/flash
[20:27] <ash_worksi> OerHeks: so, ignore https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[20:27] <ash_worksi> ?
[20:27] <teward> OerHeks: they may want to instead install adobe-flashplugin rather than the pepper flash
[20:27] <teward> they still need to enable it of course but
[20:27] <OerHeks> pepperflash downloads chrome, i believe
[20:29] <ash_worksi> I'm confused
[20:29] <ash_worksi> so is there a command with adobe-flashplugin I'm supposed to run?
[20:29] <OerHeks> start with checking chromium:  chrome://settings/content/flash
[20:29] <teward> OerHeks: there's no default allow option
[20:29] <teward> "ask" or "block" you have to allow manually per site
[20:29] <teward> it's a pain because Flash dies in January
[20:30] <porton> I want to access my PC from my laptop. Use VNC or ssh -X (-Y)? I want fullscreen (or a big window) for the PC control on the laptop. WiFi
[20:30] <ash_worksi> OerHeks: it's marked as allowed on helpx.adobe.com and xfinity.com
[20:31] <ash_worksi> teward: you can turn of "ask first"
[20:31] <ash_worksi> teward: and explicitly allow on trusted sites
[20:31] <OerHeks> odd, then it would work ..
[20:31] <teward> you might have to refresh the page again
[20:31] <ash_worksi> but it doesn't
[20:31] <teward> ash_worksi: yes, but not 'globally' you can't disable the 'ask first' unless you override specifically, i was saying there's no default 'always allow' option anymore
[20:32] <ash_worksi> yeah, you can't do it globally, thats true
[20:32] <ash_worksi> right
[20:32] <ash_worksi> but anyway... isn't there something in chromium I need to do to get it to pick up the package I just installed?
[20:32] <porton> Use VNC or ssh -X (-Y)?
[20:33] <tomboy64> i'm running ubuntu on an aarch64 devboard (dragonboard). ubuntu apparently supports it via a dedicated linux-image-snapdragon kernel, which is getting updated regularly
[20:33] <tomboy64> however after upgrades it seems to reboot with an ancient kernel
[20:33] <tomboy64> can somebody direct me to resources on how to alter that and make the board actually use the new upgraded version?
[20:34] <ash_worksi> well, w/e
[20:34] <deltab> does it need a change to the bootloader config?
[20:34] <tomboy64> this appears to require some non-standard approach via u-boot. e.g. no grub or similar linux bootloader
[20:36] <tomboy64> deltab: probably. but /boot/uEnv.txt does not seem to get recognized, which would be my usual approach to u-boot
[20:37] <tomboy64> the kernel upgrade seems to update /boot/boot.scr properly, but that isn't getting picked up either
[20:42] <shibboleth> https://www.videolan.org/security/sa1901.html
[20:42] <leftyfb> shibboleth: can we help you with something?
[20:42] <shibboleth> you know, it *really* wouldn't hurt to do a mercy patch for the most widely used video player out there, even if it's universe
[20:43] <leftyfb> shibboleth: sudo snap install vlc
[20:44] <shibboleth> yeah, cause that's what's installed by default and 90% of ppl will be using to watch... videos, right?
[20:44] <shibboleth> and it's not like snap doesn't open up it's own can of worms
[20:44] <OerHeks> vlc is not default, nor in restricted extras
[20:45] <shibboleth> i asked a question, please don't beat around the bush
[20:45] <shibboleth> neither of us are twelve
[20:45] <OerHeks> ewrr, i told you snap gives the lates version, by the vlc team
[20:45] <OerHeks> ok, on ignore
[20:47] <leftyfb> shibboleth: if you open the "Ubuntu Software" application in Ubuntu 18.04 and search for "vlc" and install it, it installs the snap. So you answer your question, yes, that is exactly where 90% of people will install from.
[20:47] <leftyfb> shibboleth: does that answer your question?
[20:48] <shibboleth> alright, put your fingers in your ears and hum real loud. same kind of mentality that left a local/remotable root vuln in gnome on xenial for eight months, just because it wasn't default at the time?
[20:48] <shibboleth> was meant for the other guy, obviously
[20:49] <leftyfb> shibboleth: This is a support channel. Not a place to air grievances. I feel your question was answered and you concern was put to rest.
[20:49] <shibboleth> i asked a question, made a suggestion.
[20:50] <leftyfb> shibboleth: your question was answered. Your suggestion is to make a patched version of vlc easily accessible to Ubuntu users running supported versions of Ubuntu. That has happened.
[20:51] <shibboleth> yeah, we must be talking about the same thing. anyway, i said my piece, both of you would rather answer a diff question. thanks
[20:52] <shibboleth> maybe if i "sign in with facebook" i'll get an even more recent version, amirite?
[20:52] <ayekat> technically, you didn't ask any question - you simply complained
[20:52] <leftyfb> shibboleth: feel free to not ask for help in #ubuntu-offtopic. Good luck.
[20:56] <Thr0r> ..Are all these strange entries here today come because alot of "bans" where lifted/deleted yesterday? It's kind of strange to read some of them..
[20:57] <dax> no
[20:57] <b1ack0p> hi
[20:57] <ayekat> my bet is school summer holidays
[20:57] <b1ack0p> why thunderbird is sending twice my mails?
[20:57] <b1ack0p> on ubuntu 18.04.2
[20:58] <hans_> 18.04 and /etc/default/grub is missing! but in it's place is 3x files: "grub.merge-error" and "grub.ucf-dist" and "grub.ucf-old"
[20:58] <blackflow> shibboleth: business as usual in #ubuntu  :)
[20:59] <hans_> how do i get /etc/default/grub back?
[20:59] <shibboleth> blackflow, in ##windows both of us would've been kb-ed for such un-thoughts/un-opinions. silver lining, i guess
[21:00] <leftyfb> !ot | shibboleth
[21:01] <b1ack0p> shibboleth: i got kb-ed in ##windows several times without reason :p
[21:01] <deltab> hans_: if you want to keep exactly the old version, rename "grub.ucf-old"; if you want to replace it with the new one, "grub.ucf-dist"; if you want to combine them, look at "grub.merge-error" and fix the conflicts listed
[21:12] <Thr0r> hans_: I am really new to linux and should not really give advice. But I had problems with Grub, becuase of some installes and re-partitioning etc. Don't know if that's your issue but.. I was asked to contribute here and here is a link to what helped me - very useful to me:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/192621/grub-rescue-prompt-repair-grub
[21:13] <shibboleth> hopefully on-topic (fingers crossed): https://usn.ubuntu.com/3977-3/
[21:13] <shibboleth> i checked, on haswell (more recent than sandy) still running older microcode
[21:14] <shibboleth> was the fix supposed to be => sandy or = sandy only?
[21:16] <leftyfb> shibboleth: apt-cache policy intel-microcode   # what version are you running?
[21:16] <shibboleth> 3.20190618.0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[21:17] <shibboleth> [    0.000000] microcode: microcode updated early to revision 0x27, date = 2019-02-26
[21:17] <leftyfb> you are up to date
[21:17] <leftyfb> "Add MDS mitigation support for Sandy Bridge server and Core-X
[21:17] <leftyfb>       processor families.(LP: #1830123)"
[21:18] <shibboleth> ehm, my skylakes and kabys are running more recent microcode?
[21:19] <shibboleth> sandy, ivys and haswell all running microcode from before mds went public, unless specifically provided through a bios update
[21:41] <tomreyn> hans_: grub.ucf-dist should contain the default /etc/default/grub for the ubuntu release you're running now.
[21:44] <tomreyn> hans_: i.e. you can rename this file. what happened there is that the upgrader tried to apply the new configuration file (template) to your system, keeping local changes you had previously made to it (your old locally changed configuration file, based on a previous configuration file template, should be in grub.ucf-old). however, this failed, and the error was recorded in grub.merge-error and... you just got disconnected.
[22:10] <eelstrebor> i'm having a problem with sending encrypted e-mail using thunderbird and enigmail - gpg signing is OK but can't send an encrypted e-mail. the only clue in the logs is this and a web search has turned up nothing: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DRcF39V7MT/
[22:23] <sarnold> eelstrebor: I'm surprised that error has 'compiz' in the lines..
[22:23] <sarnold> eelstrebor: but the trailing end of the thing suggests maybe there's a problem executing something, perhaps gpg.
[22:23]  * eelstrebor found the problem
[22:25] <sarnold> eelstrebor: oh? what was it?
[22:26] <eelstrebor> a error in gpg.conf
[22:26] <aeyxa> how well would you all suspect a 4K resolution works in ubuntu on a 14-15inch laptop?
[22:27] <aeyxa> I've read some people have troubles but not sure how accurate they are for today.
[22:28] <sarnold> eelstrebor: aha :) cool. thanks
[22:40] <lordcirth_> aeyxa, you can set 200% scale on the UI. A few programs may not adjust well.
[22:41] <aeyxa> Okay, I mostly just need a text editor and a browser, probably should be fine...
[22:42] <MilczarskiVon> hi i got problem with amdgpu ...modprobe working but startx not ....xinitrc i got
[22:42] <MilczarskiVon> i got firmware
[22:42] <MilczarskiVon> https://omnismoriar1.wixsite.com/ghetto
[22:42] <tomreyn> MilczarskiVon: wrong url?
[22:43] <MilczarskiVon> in France in 2014 few synagogs burning
[22:43] <tomreyn> !ot | MilczarskiVon
[22:43] <MilczarskiVon> i talk in Polen about WORLD HOLOCAUST 2019-2020
[22:44] <sarnold> Drone: botsnack
[22:47] <tomreyn> aeyxa: maybe related https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/x11-hidpi-scaling-available-for-testing-on-disco/10293/3
[22:47] <aeyxa> that date scrollbar is pretty cool
[22:49] <parak0vsky> how to persistently make caps lock do home. currently it's doing it but after sleep it back to defaults. am using xmodmap for that
[22:54] <pragmaticenigma> parak0vsky: You have to add an entry so that it will execute you xmodmap settings after sleep. See this post: https://askubuntu.com/a/92235
[22:55] <pragmaticenigma> parak0vsky: Actually, see this posting from the same article, it will be more up-to-date with Ubuntu 18: https://askubuntu.com/a/1111710
[23:03] <parak0vsky> pragmaticenigma: works. thanks
[23:04] <pragmaticenigma> cool, you're welcome parak0vsky
[23:11] <Thr0r> What could be the reason for Blutooth stops working during a day? - - I get "No adapters available" -- It worked just fine and then stopped. I have searched and found no tips that works.. Is this a Kernel thing? What can I check?
[23:14] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: syslog is typically the best place to start looking, or journalctl as well
[23:15] <jeremyb> Thr0r: It could be USB power management
[23:23] <Thr0r> jeremyb: I Don't have a separate USB power management, and in Power mangagement the settings seems ok
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: you would need to look in your log files to know for sure... very common to see power issues with USB causing those issues
[23:25] <Thr0r> pragmaticenigma: Ok - As I know this is not USB, It's some build-in thing. And how do I examine those logs if I may ask? I don't even know where they are located...
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: Bluetooth internally is often attached to the USB Bus... you can't make wild assumptions like that
[23:28] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: journalctl is the primary means that Ubuntu logs system events, errors, and information. You can read up on how to use the interface here: https://www.linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linux/how-to-use-journalctl/
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> Thr0r: you can also look at syslog by using the command "less /var/log/syslog" or using other tools like Grep to search the file more easily
[23:34] <cyberpolice> what will happen if i disconnected the usb ubuntu live usb is running from
[23:35] <compdoc> armageddon begins
[23:35] <pragmaticenigma> cyberpolice: if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't do it
[23:36] <Thr0r> pragmaticenigma: Ok - I will read that.. I don't understand why you peoble are so strickt with answers to me but others get replies that help them I see all the time. Maybe I have done something wrong in the past.... I will start finding out things myself. Thank you!
[23:39] <sarnold> cyberpolice: if any of the running programs need to use code that isn't in memory, either because those pages weren't used yet, or because those pages were thrown away due to memory pressure, or if you try to do filesystem traversal operations on the removed filesystem, you'll have crashes, perhaps even kernel panics. you might get lucky once in a while but sooner or later something will go wrong..
[23:44] <EriC^^> sarnold: why do you ask?


[07:50] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: What’s new in security for Ubuntu 21.04? @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-security-for-ubuntu-21-04
[17:00] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: José Antonio Rey: freenode changes owners, jose resigns as staff. @ https://joseeantonior.wordpress.com/2021/05/19/freenode-changes-owners-jose-resigns-as-staff/
[23:51] <guiverc> Bashing-om, if you're adding bdmurray's latest release annoucement ... I don't wanna summarize it; I'm not sure I understand it!  fully-phased?????
[23:56] <Bashing-om> UWN - On Recent freenode Events. A lot of media attention on this. How about we lead with "https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2021-May/001922.html" in the General Community News - and split the coverage to the Planet -José Antonio Rey's resignation summary and bullet the media links ubder this heading ?
[23:57] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Have not got past all the ferver over the Recent freenode Event - will soon get to looking at other news items :D
[23:58] <guiverc> For sure IRC I'd expect to be top-billing... I haven't seen an easy explanation of events yet, but that may be written next hours-day or so
[23:59] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I started keeping a event log this morning when the fracture occured - ya want my list of links ?


[00:33] <Corey> Ruh roh.
[02:38] <Flannel> yeah, you already said that.
[02:51] <Flannel> No, banlist filling down.
[12:30] <IdleOne> yes floodbot we know
[12:30] <IdleOne> Soon as freenode gets it together we will clear them.
[12:31] <tomaw> where do you need opping?
[12:31] <IdleOne> tomaw: no rush
[12:31] <IdleOne> thanks though :)
[12:31] <tomaw> ok
[12:32] <IdleOne> little surprised the trolls haven't attacked us though
[12:33] <IdleOne> Now that I said that :/
[12:33] <elky> indeed
[12:34] <elky> or staff could help someone get rid of excess stuff now...
[12:35] <elky> tomaw: still there?
[12:35] <tomaw> yup
[12:35] <IdleOne> nah, the ban list is not full yet
[12:35] <Pici> I think opping one of us would probably be a good idea
[12:35] <Pici> just in case.
[12:35] <tomaw> opped Pici
[12:35] <Pici> tomaw: thanks
[12:35] <tomaw> np
[12:36] <elky> now fix the +e list
[12:36] <jrib> Pici: I'll clear out some of my bans, I think I have a few stale ones
[12:36] <elky> which is what half the bans will be i'm guessing
[12:36] <Pici> elky: you want a few random pms from confused users too?
[12:37] <elky> Pici: rww is offering to fix it if we op him up
[12:46] <IdleOne> I think I got all the floodbot bans
[12:53] <elky> you can probably remove all my bans except for the racist one
[13:37] <Pici> restarting ubottu
[16:22] <Pici> tsimpson: you might want to look at pruning the ubottu log, after ubottu.com was klined during the server issues (dunno why), the log file indicated that ubottu was trying to reconnect to freenode a few thousand times a second.
[16:22] <Pici> I had to use the killbot page to get it working again.
[16:31] <tsimpson> Pici: the server was k-lined
[16:31] <tsimpson> apparently
[16:31] <Pici> yes.
[16:32] <tsimpson> I think supybot was just in a while loop
[16:33] <tsimpson> it may even be (another) bug in supybot, as it's supposed to wait
[16:33] <DJones> AlanBell: /w 20
 by having a crazy idea of installing ubuntu
[16:33] <bazhang> rant detected
[16:35] <tsimpson> a threaded while loop at that
[19:36] <popey> Hello!
[19:36] <popey> 14:23:06 -!- meetingology<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [K-Lined]
[19:37] <popey> uhm.. can we get it back?
[19:38] <Myrtti> someone (AlanBell?) needs to restart it, afaik its been unklined hours ago
[19:38] <DJones> I pinged him a couple of hours back about that, he appears to away for a while
[19:39] <popey> oh, he was flying back from .be I guess
[19:39]  * popey spies via latitude
[19:40] <DJones> popey: is the NSA
[19:40] <popey> hah
[19:40] <popey> thanks!
[19:48] <DJones> Zaku> and I can easily hack ubuntu.com
[19:50] <DJones> Guest8424> DJones, ubuntu.com is vulnerable to a variety of attacks, mainly RFI.
[20:08] <tsimpson> ... I'm going to have to kill the bots for a minute
[20:08] <ikonia> at least there is warning, thank you tsimpson
[20:09] <tsimpson> supybot decided it was fine for the log 22GB
[20:10] <tsimpson> well, one is 22GB, one is 3.5, another is 2.5
[20:11] <tomaw> sounds like a cry for help
[20:13] <DJones> Maybe its the bots list of people to get revenge on for klining it earlier on
[20:13] <ikonia> has ubuntu 13.04 dropped the use of /etc/fstab - thats the 3rd person I've see say "I have no fstab file"
[20:14] <tomaw> DJones: I think that was just them losing at a bot fight
[20:15] <DJones> On this 13.04 machine, I have an /etc/fstab although it is an upgraded from earlier versions
[20:15] <Unit193> Haha!
[20:15] <ikonia> I just don't see how it's possible to not have an /etc/fstab, and it's not like this guy is the first one to say it
[20:16] <Unit193> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/fstab Hrm, maybe it's done a different way?
[20:16] <ikonia> they have the /etc/fstab.d directory , but other distros use that too, but not having the fstab.....
[20:17] <ikonia> seems odd, to break such an important standard
[20:18] <DJones> I have a /etc/fstab.d but its empty
[20:18] <ikonia> yes, it's for user mounts
[20:18] <ikonia> so should be empty
[20:19] <ikonia> there are posts all over the internet showing /etc/fstab on 13.04 for example http://askubuntu.com/questions/297069/ubuntu-13-04-hard-disk-does-not-boot
[20:20] <ikonia> never mind, the file is there, this guy just can't read his screen
[20:20] <ikonia> but he's not the first to say that
[20:21] <DJones> Its not the first time this guy has disputed things and swore that black is white
[20:21] <ikonia> oh really
[20:21] <ikonia> I've never seen him before
[20:22] <ikonia> I'm backing away from this, as modifying a file like this when he doesn't pay attention to if the file is even there doesn't interest me
[20:22] <tsimpson> ok, 28GB freed by deleting supybot logs
[20:22] <tsimpson> and the "no space left on device" messages are gone :)
[20:22] <DJones> He was the guy a week or so back that wanted support with cracked software, he swore blind that just because the .rar file he wanted help extracting had '-cracked' in the filename wasn't cracked
[20:23] <ikonia> oh this idiot
[20:23] <ikonia> oh I'm totally out then
[20:23] <DJones> yup
[20:33] <ikonia> someone needs to change that ISO file name from amd64 to 64bit
[20:33] <ikonia> I logged a bug for it and the questions about it never go away
[20:35] <DJones> It always makes me think of hoovers, nobody ever says they're going to dyson the living room carpet, its always hoover, just seems to be something thats been given a name in the past & nobody wants to change it
[20:35] <tsimpson> technically though, it is amd64
[20:35] <ikonia> considering ubuntu is supposed to target user friendly, it's not really the best namies
[20:35] <ikonia> tsimpson: technically fully agree
[20:35] <ikonia> however real world target user position, it's not helpfui
[20:36] <tsimpson> yeah, I accept it's a cause of confusion for 99% of people
[20:36] <DJones> Its a least the 2nd time I've seen the question asked today
[20:38] <ikonia> thats odd, launchpad.net shows me having only logged one bug ??
[20:38] <ikonia> I've logged many
[20:38] <DJones> Would it be as simple as changing the filename, or are there likely to be deep rooted things that would also need changing with the iso
[20:40] <tsimpson> ikonia: it doesn't show fixed released/invalid by default iirc
[20:40] <ikonia> tsimpson: I can't get it to show anything other than the 1 bug,
[20:41] <ikonia> ahh got a few more
[20:42] <tsimpson> I see 54 with the advanced search
[20:42] <ikonia> I see 8 with advanced search
[20:42] <tsimpson> odd
[20:43] <tsimpson> I don't think it's missing any when I search my own bugs, but I don't keep track of all ~570
[20:43] <ikonia> tsimpson: a poor excuse.....
[20:43] <tsimpson> I'm really saying that I have no clue if it's showing all of them or not
[20:44] <ikonia> I know, I'm teasing you, 570 is a lot to track
[20:44] <ikonia> I think I had about 100-ish
[20:44] <ikonia> you see 57, I see 8
[20:46] <ikonia> ah, I get 54 now
[20:48] <ikonia> think it's worth giving this another push ?
[20:48] <ikonia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/307420
[22:54] <AlanBell> meetingology is on its way back into channels
[22:55] <AlanBell> apparently a kline gives it a signal 15 and it dies if I read it correctly
[22:55] <IdleOne> makes sense
[22:56] <IdleOne> you don't want your logs filling up with Unable to connect to server
[23:00] <AlanBell> from the log file "ERROR 2013-07-05T18:54:03 supybot Schedule is the only remaining driver, why do we continue to live?"
[23:01] <AlanBell> eventually life just wasn't worth living it would appear. Poor bot.


[08:38] <bgd> Hi everyone! I have a synaptics with 3-finger-swipe capability (as shown by xinput list-props) and I wonder how I can activate that in Unity, so that e.g. I can change the workspace with it?
[08:41] <tjaalton> no idea, try #ubuntu-unity


[10:33] <memoreda> Does anyone know which kernel I need to compile or ppa/deb file to get Ubuntu 21.10 (Linux kernel 5.13.0-39-generic)
[10:34] <memoreda> I need that exact ver and distro
[12:05] <arighi_> memoreda, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/impish tag Ubuntu-5.13.0-39.44
[12:05] <mhcerri> just keep in mind the 5.13 is not supported anymore
[12:44] <xnox> memoreda:  you can dowload them with pull-lp-debs or pull-lp-source.
[12:47] <xnox> memoreda:  and you can find them in the old releases archives too maybe https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ the version you are asking about is odd, as it is neither the GA or the most recent one. You can find all impish generic kernels at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/impish/+source/linux as well.
[20:12] <Ade> Guys, I have a firewall with several rules in iptables and I also have site-to-site vpn ipsec tunnels built on strongswan, it happens that the tunnels stop passing data from one hour to another, but it takes days for that to happen, if I restarting the tunnels or the strongswan service does not work, the tunnels are established, but there is no traffic and when restarting linux, it
[20:12] <Ade> works, so I think it is something in the kernel, is there any way to debug this?
[20:23] <sarnold> Ade: this is a very low traffic channel, you'll probably have better luck in #ubuntu-server . My guess is that you've got your firewall set to tear down NAT connections after an hour of inactivity or something, that hits a lot of people
[20:29] <Ade> If I show you how my nat rule is, would I be able to help? No, I really need a lower level help