[00:00] <meganerd> banke247: back them up first
[00:00] <semitones> theoretically -- is it possible to capture all the sounds going on from one laptop,  so that another laptop can tune into the stream, know what i'm sayin?
[00:00] <banke247> yea thats what i'm doing
[00:00] <xevious> colk: Would I have to turn on BIOS legacy support?
[00:01] <arand> xevious: Also, after installing you might want to look into taking the steps which are otherwise described for SSD disks, in order to make the usb disk have less writes and last longer
[00:01] <Roasted_> what's the terminal command for seeing hte current time?
[00:01] <dd214> arand  thanx, I pulled a specific version.. was looking for a directory to put the extracted app.. something along the lines in Windows, "Program Files", instead of my Downloads folder.
[00:01] <Pici> Roasted_: date
[00:02] <arand> dd214: That is generally not how things are done in Ubuntu though.
[00:02] <csarven> Is there a way to auto-select syntax highlighting in gEdit for particular file extensions?
[00:02] <edbian> csarven, If you have syntax highlighting turned on it should do that automatically.  What extension?
[00:03] <eoss> can anyone help me with my audio problem?
[00:03] <arand> dd214: First you see if it is available in the ubuntu software repositories, then you check for external packages (PPAs ...) And as a final resort you download the source and compile the software yourself.
[00:03] <dd214> arand given this scenario, what would be the best practice for storing?
[00:03] <eoss> ive got sound coming out my monitor and my speakers, and when i plug in the headphone to my speakers i got sound coming out my monitor and headphones
[00:04] <jbleau> Can anyone recommend a good file-system introduction for Ubuntu with regards to proper placement of certain files? I just downloaded Java from Sun's website, it's a self-extracting application and just dumps it into my user folder. I want to learn where the proper place to install it would be.
[00:04] <jbleau> My current guess is something like /usr/bin but I'm not sure.
[00:04] <csarven> edbian .ttl  to use SPARQL syntax highlighting
[00:04] <arand> dd214: What is it you are missing in the eclipse available in ubuntu?
[00:04] <eoss> ive got sound coming out my monitor and my speakers, and when i plug in the headphone to my speakers i got sound coming out my monitor and headphones
[00:05] <csarven> edbian .ttl or .turtle
[00:05] <benzaldehyde> semitones: i have done that but not in linux
[00:05] <edbian> csarven, I think gedit just doesn't support that languages.  The highlighting is based on xml files.  You can modify them yourself if you want.  I suggest you make a copy of another one you like and name it properly so that gedit uses that for .ttl or .turtle
[00:05] <mkanyicy> jbleau, what do you want to do?
[00:06] <mkanyicy> jbleau, why dont you install via synaptic?
[00:06] <dd214> arand Yes, Eclipse is available via the ubuntu software rep, but I'm looking for "Eclipse Classic 3.6.2"
[00:06] <xevious> Is there a way to install everything but the Gnome desktop environment when installing Ubuntu?
[00:06] <edbian> csarven, This may be helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/766775/creating-your-own-syntax-highlighting-in-gedit
[00:06] <xevious> So that, after it's installed, I could install xubuntu-desktop...
[00:06] <mkanyicy> xevious, yes
[00:06] <semitones> benzaldehyde, verrrry interesting, chemical-sounding fellow! :D how did you do it?
[00:06] <csarven> THanks edbian
[00:06] <Pici> xevious: You could use the minimal installer and install just want you want.
[00:06] <edbian> csarven, no problem
[00:07] <Pici> !minimal | xevious
[00:07] <jbleau> mkanyicy, I was under the impression that OpenJDK is somehow inferior in terms of speed to java's own binaries, so I was hoping to install those. They offer an RPM but no Ubuntu package, so I want to make sure I install it "properly" where other programs will expect it to be.
[00:07] <jbleau> Sun's*
[00:07] <mkanyicy> xevious, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[00:08] <xevious> I've PXE booted the 10.10 installer and I have options to Install, Command-line install, Expert install, or Command-line expert install
[00:08] <Polah> jbleau, you can  install Sun Java on Ubuntu...
[00:08] <jbleau> Polah, I must have looked over it when I was browsing the software center
[00:08] <mkanyicy> jbleau, you may try 'alien' to convert RPM's to DEB's
[00:09] <Polah> Jbleau: You need to add/enable the Canonical partners repository, then you can just do apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:09] <mkanyicy> jbleau, anyway, Im not a java guy
[00:09] <arand> !compile | dd214
[00:09] <jbleau> Polah, great! Thank you :)
[00:10] <jbleau> mkanyicy, cool tip, I will keep that program in my back pocket, had not heard of it until now
[00:10] <eoss> wow i figured it out
[00:10] <kostkon> jbleau, then you'll need to give the command: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun  to make it the default jvm. More info here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:10] <BountyX> hey let me know when you are in =)
[00:10] <mkanyicy> jbleau, no prob, but Polah's suggestion is the best
[00:11] <Polah> kostkon, jbleau, you can do sudo update-alternatives --config-java then select Sun Java instead of OpenJDK
[00:11] <BountyX> Grey, you there?
[00:11] <dd214> arand No, not compiling.. just downloading the desired version from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[00:11] <Grey_> Hey Bounty
[00:11] <arand> dd214: This might also work https://launchpad.net/~eclipse-team/+archive/debian-package
[00:11] <BountyX> Alright man, if you are running a default unbuntu install it probably has gnome installed
[00:12] <BountyX> You want to click on the ubunutu logo on the top left
[00:12] <rcmaehl> Anyone wanna test out a python game me and my friends are working on? We need to see if there's any bugs, glitches, etc.
[00:12] <BountyX> and go to utilities menu and you will see "Terminal"
[00:12] <kunal> how to setup a ftp ubuntu server?? any1
[00:12] <Grey_> got it
[00:12] <Polah> kunal: install vsftpd and configure it. Look up how to online
[00:13] <Polah> kunal: Or indeed, any other FTP server you wish. I just use vsftpd myself
[00:13] <BountyX> When you have the terminal open just type wine regedit and you should be good
[00:13] <BountyX> Also a quick and dirty way is to also hit ALT + F2 this gives you a run menu
[00:14] <BountyX> Damn I'm usually over in Fedora you guys have WAY more people lol
[00:14] <mkanyicy> kunal, what is the benefit of a ftp server over ssh server?
[00:14] <Grey_> Thanks man. I will tell you if it worked.
[00:15] <BountyX> mkanyicy, FTP of SSH is called SFTP it is encrypted and secure that is the benefit
[00:15] <dd214> arand thanks for helping this newb out
[00:15] <arand> dd214: Hmm, I didn't know they provided binaries, right, for those kinds of applications I don't think there's a particular stadard really.
[00:15] <kunal> and how to hav unlimited storage for the server? how to add n number of storage?
[00:15] <BountyX> mkanyicy, regular FTP transmits your files and login over cleartext and can be sniffed out
[00:15] <BountyX> Always use SFTP (which is just ssh technically) if you can
[00:16] <mkanyicy> BountyX, ok, thanks for explaining.
[00:16] <BountyX> np
[00:16] <mkanyicy> BountyX, you are a guru
[00:16] <Glarbex> To have unlimited storage for the server, keep plugging disks into it at a faster rate than data is saved.
[00:16] <kunal> bounty x is right
[00:16] <arand> dd214: What I would do is just put it in a "eclipse" directory in your home directory, and create shortcuts/symlinks to the binary where appropriate
[00:16] <mkanyicy> !tab | kunal
[00:17] <banke247> meganerd, when i ping google.com it sais unknown host
[00:17] <BountyX> ubottu: that is so useful I never knew that =D
[00:17] <guest_> i just installed 10.04 and i cant get my internet working any advice?
[00:17] <kunal> ssh is req when security is required when say it's a paid service or so.
[00:18] <Polah> BountyX, ubottu is a robot (:
[00:18] <meganerd> banke247: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>, or traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>?
[00:18] <BountyX> Polah: lmao
[00:19] <banke247> i think its because i'm not root?
[00:19] <mkanyicy> banke247, no its not because of that
[00:19] <MikeH> Evening all, can anyone recommend something for ssh connection management under windows? I realise this may not be the correct place, but not sure where else to ask. I want something that does tabs and ssh keys
[00:19] <Todd200> BountyX: watch
[00:19] <Todd200> !ubottu
[00:19] <kunal> how to auto star prog like filezilla at sys startup. i m thinking of remote automated server.
[00:19] <guest_> i just installed 10.04 and i cant get my internet working any advice?
[00:19] <ddbt-nl> how can i find out the ip address of a particular contact in empathy?
[00:19] <Polah> kunal: If you install openssh-server or vsftpd, they should set themselves as startup services automatically.
[00:20] <edbian> guest_, wifi or wired?
[00:20] <BountyX> Todd200: kewl, man ubuntu channel is way more livley than fedora. its insane
[00:20] <guest_> edbian wifi
[00:20] <banke247> yes
[00:20] <banke247> meganerd,  i just pinged <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:20] <edbian> guest_, what kind of wireless card do you have? (do you know how to find out?)
[00:20] <guest_> edbian wifi
[00:20] <guest_> edbian no i dont
[00:20] <BountyX> Grey_: If you have any more questions just ask and you shall receive =)
[00:21] <banke247> meganerd, but i'm still logged in as root@ubuntu:/#
[00:21] <guest_> edbian i do know it was working on my 8.04
[00:21] <edbian> guest_, run this command: sudo lspci -k   (and pastebin the output) Do you know how to pastebin?
[00:21] <edbian> guest_, If it worked on 8.04 I am very confident I can get it working on 10.10
[00:21] <banke247> meganerd, and apt-get fails to work
[00:21] <mkanyicy> kunal, filezilla is a client
[00:22] <guest_> edbian i cant pastebin the output cause that comp isnt connected
[00:22] <Polah> banke247: What error is it giving you when you try?
[00:22] <edbian> guest_, Then read it and tell me what it says  (look for the bit about your wifi)  I think you can figure it out even though it's a lot of output.
[00:22] <banke247> i'm in chroot
[00:22] <banke247> it just keeps saying failed to fetch
[00:22] <bittyx-laptop> hi, i'm trying to set up keepass to run on my ubuntu. well, i've mostly set it up already - it needs mono, and i put it in my home folder, so when i type "mono ~/KeePass-2.14/KeePass.exe" in my terminal, it starts/works correctly. however, when i make a launcher on the desktop with the same command, nothing happens when i click it. what's the deal?
[00:23] <MikeDD> Invalid extent entry...
[00:23] <MikeDD> that might be the problem
[00:23] <edbian> guest_, I'm looking for something like this Broadcom Corporation BCM4306  (with a different number there)
[00:23] <arand> bittyx-laptop: Why not keepassx?
[00:23] <Polah> banke247: and you can't reach websites either?
[00:23] <CobZo> is there any hope for zfs and dtrace in any decent linux distro? I'm stuck with freebsd and various solaris variants, because I just can't live without those features
[00:23] <banke247> i can from my other login
[00:24] <arand> bittyx-laptop: It is available pre-packaged in the repositories.
[00:24] <raido> CobZo: Not as of today, I think zfs native is now abandoned for Linux.
[00:24] <Polah> banke247: But you can't on the root account?
[00:25] <banke247> Polah, i had to use recovery install disk to get into system then use chroot to get into  my main filesystem
[00:25] <guest_> edbian http://pastebin.com/f9zsJzUz
[00:25] <ddbt-nl> no one on retrieving a contacts ip address in empathy?
[00:25] <edbian> guest_, liar! :D
[00:26] <edbian> guest_, You have  BCM4312  Do you see it there?
[00:26] <CobZo> raido: that's too bad. I like linux but I really need something like zfs. linux has brtfs but it's far from stable
[00:26] <bittyx-laptop> arand: haha, i never even knew that existed. but the problem here is not the program itself, but rather why the launcher doesn't work as i'd expect it to. actually, now i've used a full path - /home/user/KeePass-2.14/KeePass.exe and it works. how come you can't use ~ with launchers?
[00:27] <CobZo> I think brtfs will never reach zfs in features or performance
[00:27] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, if possible, try staying far away from .exe files
[00:28] <semitones> how can i find out if i'm using Alsa or Pulseaudio or what?
[00:28] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i'm running it through mono and it works fine
[00:28] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, i know
[00:28] <arand> bittyx-laptop: I'm not sure presumably there is no expansion of special symbols or variables like bash has
[00:28] <guest_> edbian yes i see it now
[00:28] <guest_> edbian i dont know what that means though
[00:29] <bittyx-laptop> arand: ah, so ~ is the symbol for your home folder only in bash? i thought it was system-wide (as far as paths are concerned). thanks for clearing that up.
[00:29] <GatunoRox> hello
[00:29] <GatunoRox> can someone help me troubleshoot usb boot problems?
[00:29] <banke247> meganerd, ya there?
[00:29] <arand> bittyx-laptop: In many cases it does work yes, but obviously it needs something to interpret and expand that to the full path at some point
[00:29] <guest_> edbian: but i still cant enable my wireless
[00:29] <edbian> guest_, It's basically the model of the wifi chip.  It lets me know which driver to use.  (the b43 driver).  I can also see that the b43 driver is already being used on the card.  Can you tell me what 'sudo iwlist scan' does?
[00:30] <edbian> guest_, I know, still just info finding.  run that command:  sudo iwlist scan
[00:30] <edbian> guest_, that command tests if it is working
[00:30] <guest_> edbian new
[00:31] <guest_> edib
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, new?
[00:31] <edbian> edib?
[00:31] <guest_> edbian network down
[00:31] <Polah> !ask | GatunoRox
[00:31] <MikeDD> rebooting again...
[00:31] <mkanyicy> arand, but didnt bittyx-laptop run 'mono' on terminal which has 'bash' shell?
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, what is you do this: sudo ifup wlan0   ?
[00:31] <edbian> guest_, BTW, how did you pastebin that command before?
[00:31] <MK`> Is anyone here familiar with Japanese kana? I'm having something behave strangely. Just the characters, not the language itself, I want to confirm if it is ubuntu related
[00:32] <guest_> edbian "ignoring unknow interface wlan0=wlan0
[00:32] <trism> MK`: what's the issue?
[00:32] <guest_> edbian i copied to a document that transfered through usb
[00:33] <edbian> guest_, Mmmm, do you have a /lib/firmware/b43    folder? (that is were the firmware is stored) we need both the firmware and the driver for this to work.  I know the driver is there.  I'm also sure the card is not working so we'll check the firmware
[00:33] <GatunoRox> I used a 640GB USB external HDD to install Ubuntu on a computer without internall HDD, so grub would be installed on the external. Everything works rather fine, but when trying to boot on other computers it gives me "no such device:" followed by UUID
[00:33] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i wasn't having trouble with running it from the terminal, but rather when i tried making a launcher.
[00:33] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: as in, an icon on the gnome desktop
[00:33] <HyperShock> is there a way via bash scripting in the ~/ directory to detect which type of desktop was booted up and then disable some features based on that result? I ask because I have my gnome panels completely replaced with cairo-dock, but now I'm trying out xubuntu to get more power from my system and it doesn't support the cairo-dock compositing very well.
[00:33] <edbian> guest_, Additionally, if the firmware is missing you will see error messages about it new the end of the output of dmesg (that's a command)
[00:33] <MK`> a) あ゙   b) あ゛   <-- The first one is supposed to be combined, with the second separate. That is how my friends on windows see it. Yet I see it backwards, both in here and in firefox, even with different fonts
[00:33] <MK`> I can't fathom why that would occur
[00:34] <mkanyicy> bittyx-laptop, ok, that makes sense. tilde expansion is a feature of shells like bash
[00:34] <bittyx-laptop> mkanyicy: i wouldn't be asking if i knew that (: thanks for the info!
[00:35] <ddbt-nl> how to retrieve a contacts ip address in empathy?
[00:35] <xevious> arand: I can't get the installer to see my thumb drive... any tips?
[00:35] <topgun21> woul;d it be wise to remove the xubuntu desktop after installing the lubuntu-desktop package over a freshly installed xubuntu system due to hard drive space constraints?
[00:36] <seif12> empathy is
[00:36] <seif12> a security disaster
[00:36] <xevious> arand: I've tried forcing the BIOS to emulate a HDD and it still doesn't see it.
[00:36] <ddbt-nl> seif, well.. what would you recommend?
[00:36] <edbian> guest_, How is it going?
[00:36] <arand> xevious: I'm afraid not, if it is visible otherwise in ubuntu?
[00:37] <ddbt-nl> seif12: in terms of googlin?
[00:37] <xevious> arand: /dev/sda
[00:37] <semitones> how can i find out if pulseaudio is in use in my system?
[00:37] <ddbt-nl> seif12: or another way to find out?
[00:37] <arand> xevious: But not in the file manager?
[00:37] <guest_> edbian lib dir is not there
[00:37] <edbian> guest_, /lib/firmware/b43 is missing?  or /lib if missing?
[00:38] <xevious> arand: I'm doing a PXE booted minimal installer...
[00:38] <arand> seif12: What in particular do you consider a security risk in empathy, have you reported bugs for it?
[00:38] <xevious> arand: When it detects disks, it says there isn't one connected to the system.
[00:38] <trism> MK`: very strange, here in xterm, I see them as you described they should be, but out in gedit, I see them reversed
[00:38] <xevious> However, the thumb drive shows up already as /dev/sda
[00:38] <ddbt-nl> arand: i asked seif12 for a way to retrieve a contacts ip address
[00:38] <guest_> edbian /lib/firmwar/b43
[00:38] <guest_> edbian that one is missing
[00:38] <edbian> guest_, You don't have internet access?
[00:39] <guest_> edbian no
[00:39] <sir_tyrion> Hi, I left an install cd running with ssh server installed and added a user to login with, but forgot to give that user sudo rights. Is there a way around this?
[00:39] <guest_> edbian i mean im on with this one obviously but the other comp doesnt even see the signal
[00:39] <sir_tyrion> I have the livecd user ubuntu password in mind, but not for the new user
[00:39] <edbian> guest_, That makes it a slight bit harder.  Go to this site:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx   scroll all the way to the bottom (b43 - no internet access)  and you need to do step 2 and step 3
[00:39] <xevious> arand: fdisk /dev/sda says "Unable to open /dev/sda"
[00:40] <arand> xevious: sudo ?
[00:40] <xevious> arand: I'm root...
[00:40] <edbian> guest_, If you need more help I am here.  (step 1 is already done and step 4 does not need to be done)
[00:40] <xevious> arand: All that exists in this minimal installer is a dialog-based guided install or a command prompt.
[00:40] <bittyx-laptop> arand: i've installed keepassx, but i can't seem to open my key database - i get the "wrong signature" error, even though i can open it in keepass (the keepassx website says that keepassx can read the original keepass file format)
[00:40] <arand> xevious: Well in that case the usb stick is either broken/garbaged, or incompatible with linux
[00:41] <guest_> edbian ok ill try it thanks
[00:41] <GatunoRox> anyone?
[00:42] <bittyx-laptop> arand: ah, it's because my file is from keepass 2, and this isn't supported yet by keepassx. frak.
[00:42] <arand> bittyx-laptop: Hmm, unfortunate, see if you can find any more info on their site I guess... Ah, there
[00:42] <arand> bittyx-laptop: You may be able to export in the old fromat from Keepass?
[00:42] <sir_tyrion> is there a way to login to the ubuntu usr ona livecd from a user that isn't in sudoers?
[00:43] <topgun21> is there a package for the freecolor command line memory status monitoring application on ubuntu/Debian?
[00:44] <bittyx-laptop> arand: that's what i'm about to try. but thanks for mentioning that keepassx exists - the site says they're working on a new version that will be able to handle the new file format as well. though that's the last news on the site, from september last year, without any updates after that, so who knows...
[00:45] <angrymanatee> Hi. I've been trying to compile BSNES on lucid for the past day - recently gave up cause I found some debs for Maverick of it..
[00:45] <MK`> hi
[00:45] <MK`> !info bsnes
[00:45] <angrymanatee> Downloaded those, installed.. and I get this: bsnes: symbol lookup error: bsnes: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii
[00:45] <angrymanatee> it's from someones PPA
[00:45] <MK`> ah
[00:47] <angrymanatee> That's from the terminal when I try to run it from there. If I run it from the app menu it does nothing.
[00:48] <MK`> I do not know, sorry
[00:48] <arand> angrymanatee: So possibly the PPA-packager didn't do a very good job, or packaged it very narrowly and unportably
[00:49] <angrymanatee> Hm I see
[00:54] <arand> angrymanatee: Have you looked at http://byuu.org/bsnes/compilation-guide
[00:54] <angrymanatee> Yeah
[00:54] <angrymanatee> Lucid's GCC is < 4.5
[00:55] <vanmik> i'm trying to install mysql lib for python via apt-get (apt-get python-mysql), and it install successfully but for wrong python version. There is python2.6, python3 and python2.7 versions on ubuntu-machine. Is there a way to declare needed python version to apt-get installer?
[00:56] <genis-bob>  I'm having trouble installing Firefox 4, I've downloaded the package but I can't seem to get the package Manager to find it
[00:56] <violets> !fx4
[00:56] <geojorg> genis-bob:Use the ppa instead
[00:57] <genis-bob> I've tried using alien, I will try that
[00:57] <violets> alien is not a good idea, in general :\
[00:57] <doomrobo>  is it possible to install 32-bit software in 64-bit ubuntu?
[00:57] <gerrin> laptop shutdown mid intall of pidgin, now when i try to install it again, i get unable to complete install message, how can i fix it? all this is in software center
[00:57] <MK`> doomrobo yes, someone here can tell you how
[00:57] <geojorg> genis-bob: not a good idea
[00:57] <dustin_> yeAH I wanted to kmopw that to..
[00:58] <doomrobo> Also, the software won't show up in apt because it's the wrong architecture
[00:58] <dustin_> doomrobo,  what you trying to do?
[00:58] <MK`> yeah you can't do it via the software
[00:58] <MK`> center
[00:59] <doomrobo> dustin_ i added the dockbar ppa but it has no installation candidate in apt because it's 32 bit
[00:59] <gerrin> cant add or remove packages from software center, how can i fix it
[01:00] <ubntuguy> If I don't install ubuntu 11.04, will I still get security updates for ubuntu 10.10?
[01:01] <MK`> I believe you use dpkg -i --force-architecture
[01:01] <MK`> but someone will have to confirm
[01:01] <bilal> how can we report a bug through terminal??????
[01:01] <MK`> I am not an expert
[01:01] <bastidrazor> !bug | bilal
[01:02] <arand> ubntuguy: Yes, for as long as 10.10 is supported
[01:02] <genii-around> bilal: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/reporting-bugs.html  for command-line only
[01:03] <violets> ubntuguy: 10.10 will receive security updates until 18 months from its release, so April 2012.
[01:05] <ubntuguy> SO until 2012?
[01:05] <ubntuguy> I will continue to get updates?
[01:05] <syn-ack> Thats what he said
[01:06] <violets> ubntuguy: correct
[01:06] <ubntuguy> Thanks
[01:06] <doomrobo> how do I get apt to be able to install 32 bit packages in 64 bit ubuntu?
[01:07] <DaPenguin> doomrobo, why would you want to? dev purposes?
[01:07] <doomrobo> no, just dockbarx doesn't show up in apt after I added the ppa
[01:08] <Auriga> Has anyone had problems with wireless on a netbook, connecting, then constantly reconnecting?
[01:08] <Auriga> & basically not being able to stay connected at all.
[01:09] <DaPenguin> doomrobo, did you do an update?
[01:09] <doomrobo> indeed I did
[01:09] <urgodfather> how do i enable the splash?
[01:10] <MK`> not me Auriga
[01:10] <KSHawkEye> What are the downsides to using ubuntu 64-bit instead of 32-bit?
[01:10] <doomrobo> DaPenguin Nevermind
[01:10] <razumikhin> anybody got an idea why when I try to activate a menu item that is shown in italics, it won't activate and appear in the menu
[01:10] <doomrobo> Apparently it decided to work now
[01:10] <doomrobo> thanks anyway
[01:10] <DaPenguin> lol, ok
[01:10] <MK`> KSHawkEye: you can't install 32-bit packages via the software center
[01:11] <Auriga> MK`, Any ideas...? It's in Ubuntu & Mint, basically the same OS... But both won't connect.
[01:11] <MK`> I wouldn't know Auriga :(
[01:11] <KSHawkEye> MK`: Can 32-bit packages work with 64-bit Ubuntu?
[01:11] <Auriga> MK`, Shame... On goes my endeavor to use wireless...
[01:11] <MK`> yes
[01:12] <KSHawkEye> Is 64-bit Ubuntu considered as stable as 32-bit?
[01:12] <genis-bob> the PPA script worked perfectly, will now seek tutorials on PPA and other command line scripts... thank you ubottu!
[01:12] <MK`> Yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be
[01:12] <Auriga> KSHawkEye, Probably more so.
[01:13] <KSHawkEye> Auriga: Why would it be more so?
[01:13] <YankDownUnder> 64 = 32 x 2 => ergo, it's twice as stable. :)
[01:14] <Auriga> KSHawkEye, 64bit computing is more secure period.
[01:14] <dork> why does unrar -e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:14] <KSHawkEye> Could I ask why 32-bit is "recommended" then? (As seen on the download page)
[01:14] <MK`> well, you can't just pick one to install. You need to use the one based on your system architecture
[01:14] <MK`> if you're 32-bit, you have to use 32-bit
[01:14] <arand> KSHawkEye: A question which has no real good answer.
[01:14] <Auriga> Probably because the average end user looking to test it won't understand the differences.
[01:15] <razumikhin> never mind I figured it out
[01:15] <Evildaemon> I need to forensically image a truecrypt drive, (No I'm not going to try and crack it from scratch, I have the key, or at least 90% of the key, I just need to get a disk image in case I screw up.) how do I determine the mount point so I can point dd at it?
[01:15] <tensorpudding> it's easier to suggest to use 32-bit rather than go through contortions to know for sure that your machine supports 64-bit
[01:15] <Auriga> THought saying that, usually, average end users only know what windows is.
[01:15] <vectory> if ur on a 64 bit arch u most vertainly can still use 32 bit thp
[01:15] <vectory> though*
[01:15] <arand> KSHawkEye: SOme computers don't support 64bit, so 32bit is still the most general option, especially if taking into account a lot of netbooks as well
[01:16] <MK`> Evildaemon is it a partition/entire drive?
[01:16] <KSHawkEye> All very valid points, I just worry that it may scare some users off of 64-bit (people that know they can run 64-bit) because they think its better, or because they think something might be wrong with 64-bit.
[01:16] <Evildaemon> Entire drive. (And yes, it's mine.)
[01:17] <MK`> Look at the Disk Utility
[01:17] <MK`> it should tell you where it is
[01:17] <dork> why does unrar e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:18] <Auriga> 64bit allows a higher addressing of ram, so on that basis alone people will take 64bit.
[01:18] <arand> KSHawkEye: Yes, the only issue I see with 64bit atm is that you tend to be better of installing flash manually using their beta version, although the prepackaged one does work..
[01:18] <Evildaemon> You know, when people give me simple answers like that (and they work) I start to question my competency. Thank you.
[01:18] <MK`> haha
[01:18] <MK`> no problem
[01:18] <Bluebill-Wolf> i'm thinking of getting a new lappie any one have any recemdations for sites to buy from?
[01:18] <Auriga> Evildaemon, Lol.
[01:19] <Auriga> Newegg...
[01:19] <MK`> newegg is great yeah
[01:19] <ubbo> need help installing kde 4.6 on Ubuntu 10.04 (no to convert ubuntu tu kubuntu, but simply install BASE kde environment onto Ubuntu): how should I do?
[01:19] <arand> KSHawkEye: There have been many remarks about the wording on the download page, but it seems canonical wants to stick with it..
[01:20] <MK`> but yeah really KSHawkEye I personally would recommend 64 over 32
[01:20] <MK`> 32-bit can have a max ram of 4 GB, 64-bit's max is like 1000 TB or something
[01:20] <Auriga> 32bit is 3.25gb, 84bit is 128gb no?
[01:20] <KGB> can anyone help me with enlarging my linux partition using gparted?
[01:21] <arand> MK`: PA ups that max to 64G (still ~3.2 per individual process though...)
[01:21] <KSHawkEye> MK`: Oh good, now I can make use of those 1000TB of ram I have ;)
[01:21] <MK`> KGB you can't alter a partition that's mounted, are you using a liveCD?
[01:21] <arand> MK`: *PAE
[01:21] <Axlin> theoretically, 32 bit = 4 GB, 64 bit = 16 EB
[01:21] <KGB> MK`, yes
[01:21] <MK`> ok. Back up your stuff etc. then open gparted
[01:22] <KGB> Already open
[01:22] <MK`> click on the disk in the upper right
[01:22] <KGB> yeah/.
[01:22] <MK`> and then resizing it is fairly simple. Just specify the new size
[01:22] <KGB> Uhhh
[01:22] <KGB> Well
[01:22] <KGB> It's an extended partition
[01:22] <MK`> do you have unallocated space?
[01:22] <KGB> yes
[01:22] <KGB> 91gb
[01:22] <MK`> click on the extended
[01:23] <MK`> and expand that
[01:23] <KGB> done
[01:23] <MK`> then extend the partition inside it to the new space
[01:23] <ubbo> need help installing kde 4.6 on Ubuntu 10.04 (no to convert ubuntu tu kubuntu, but simply install BASE kde environment onto Ubuntu): how should I do?
[01:23] <KGB> there's 2 partitions
[01:23] <MK`>  / and swap?
[01:23] <KGB> one is ext4 and one is linux-swap
[01:23] <KGB> I guess
[01:23] <KGB> yeah
[01:23] <MK`> yeah
[01:24] <KGB> uhh
[01:24] <MK`> ext4 is where you put files. the swap is between the ext4 and the empty space?
[01:24] <KGB> Wlel
[01:24] <KGB> *well
[01:24] <KGB> it goes
[01:24] <vectory> ubbo, do you want the desktop or the application environment that many gtk+ apps need, becvause the later is installed with these by asynaptic when need be
[01:25] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:25] <KGB>  /dev/sda1, my computers bios, I'd assume, sda2, the boot partition, sda4, the extended, sda5, the ext4, sda6, the swap, then sda3, my win7 partition
[01:25] <ubbo> vectory: Hi! I want the K-DE, but not to convert Ubuntu to K!
[01:25] <KGB> then the unallocated
[01:25] <Roasted> KGB, your PC BIOS is not a partition.
[01:26] <vectory> !kde
[01:26] <KGB> well, its named "DellUtility:
[01:26] <KGB> *"
[01:26] <MK`> that's likely your backup win7 installation
[01:26] <vargha> hi to all
[01:27] <MK`> anyways, where is the free space in there?
[01:27] <MK`> between swap and the win7 partition, within the extended?
[01:27] <KGB> no
[01:27] <KGB> It's outside of it
[01:27] <KGB> (I had to steal it from the win7 partition just now)
[01:27] <dork> why does unrar e *.rar suddenly not work under lucid/maverick
[01:28] <MK`> On the right side of the windows partition then?
[01:28] <KGB> Uh
[01:28] <MK`> a screenshot would be nice
[01:28] <KGB> yes
[01:28] <KGB> uh
[01:28] <KGB> one sec...
[01:28] <aeon-ltd> dork: i don't use unrar but if e is a flag shouldn't it be -e ?
[01:29] <dork> depends on the application, so no
[01:29] <tensorpudding> no, in unrar it's e
[01:29] <ubbo> vectory: fine, this is exactly what I want-> (iii) kde-plasma-desktop nut... How can I install version 4.6 of this (I'm on Ub 10.04)?
[01:29] <maimster> Sup everyone.
[01:29] <KSHawkEye> dork: Thats a pretty general error report, could you be more specific? (whats going wrong?)
[01:29] <dork> and that has worked for like the past 7 releases before lucid
[01:29] <ubbo> *but...
[01:29] <dork> but for some retarded reason the shit doesn't work now
[01:29] <Roasted> language...
[01:29] <dork> yeah, english.
[01:29] <KSHawkEye> dork: Calm down, and explain the issue...
[01:29] <Roasted> you don't seem to understand
[01:29] <vectory> ubbo, u can always try to compile it yourself, but i wouldnt wanna do that myself
[01:30] <tensorpudding> dork: does it work on a single rarfile?
[01:30] <KGB> MK`, I'll have a screenshot in a minute, let me just transfer it from computer to computer
[01:30] <dork> KSHawkEye: the issue is unrar e *.rar doesn't decompress an archive like it has for the last 8 years
[01:30] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:30] <MK`> no problem
[01:30] <MK`> I just don't want you to destroy your windows parititon
[01:30] <MK`> unless that is your goal :P
[01:30] <KGB> Just gotta get used to fluxbox...
[01:30] <vectory> ubbo: if its not in the repo there might be another version that is applicable, if 4.6 is newer than the version in the repo, then look for a backport ppa
[01:30] <KGB> If that was my goal, I'd probably be done by now
[01:30] <uberspaced> Hey, dork, imagine you knew what you were doing.  Read what you have written, and determine if what you have said is sufficient to solve any problem.
[01:30] <MK`> :P
[01:31] <ubbo> vectory: yeah!!! PPA... I've already heard that... How can I use KDE PPA for Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:31] <dork> uberspaced: please stop revealing yourself as a typical useless ubuntu end user
[01:31] <KGB> Uh... fuuuu-
[01:32] <vectory> ubbo: i never used a ppa, sorry
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> I believe we have a troll naked dork
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> named**
[01:32] <uberspaced> Naked almost worked there.
[01:32] <shawncm217> Banshee will not remember the settings for my portable media player. i've googled a bit, but can't find anything for this problem. Has anyone seen this, or have a google search i should try?
[01:32] <KSHawkEye> almost
[01:32] <tensorpudding> dork: did you try it against a single file? do you get an error message? give us more information
[01:32] <ubbo> vectory: oh... But let me understand a thing abut PPA... They are repos you can add to have newest versions of software?
[01:33] <AHMED_> Huh
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: you gotta find someone who set up a server and add that address to your package repositories, yes
[01:33] <dork> nah, just extremely irritated that this doesn't work as of the last lts release, and the search results suggests that this is a widely known issue, yet i can not find any concise explaination as to why
[01:33] <dork> call it trolling if you want to
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: but you should beware
[01:33] <AHMED_> Try to control yourself my man
[01:33] <KGB> Dearest me
[01:33] <vectory> ubbo: not always
[01:34] <dork> file roller works fine bunt unrar e *.rar (which has worked since non-free unrar was introduced to debian systems) does not work
[01:34] <vectory> sometimes its just repos that offer deb's of betas for testing, not for production use
[01:34] <ubbo> vectory: sorry, I'm new of Ubuntu and I still need to learn a lot of things...
[01:34] <vectory> me 2 :D
[01:34] <dork> s/bunt/but
[01:34] <AHMED_> What a subjects here
[01:35] <IdleOne> dork: from man unrar "After  the program name comes a command and then optional switches with dashes before them."
[01:35] <ubbo> vectory: ok... So... canonical repos-> foo-1.0 || PPA repos-> foo-2.0 for example... Right?
[01:35] <IdleOne> so the switch is -e
[01:35] <IdleOne> not e
[01:35] <IdleOne> dork: forgive me I am wrong
[01:35] <AHMED_> I am asking if anyone here is interested to have a normal conversation
[01:35] <ubbo> vectory: so I should only need to find kde ppa for ubuntu 10.04 and add to spftware sources?
[01:36] <ubbo> *software
[01:36] <vectory> ubbo: thats how i understood it, but there shouldnt be any reason to use bleeding edge, when the version in the universe repos is tested and proven to be working
[01:36] <bazhang> AHMED_, wrong channel for that
[01:36] <dork> IdleOne: you're wrong
[01:36] <dork> next
[01:36] <bazhang> AHMED_, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <IdleOne> dork: drop the attitude
[01:36] <KGB> MK`, er, it's to the right of the windows partition, I'm afraid I can't get the screenshot copied
[01:36] <KGB> !ot | AHMED_
[01:36] <MK`> alright
[01:36] <dork> this channel is the blind leading the fucking blind
[01:36] <MK`> well, you can't have more than 4 primary partitions, and you can't have more than 1 extended partition
[01:36] <uberspaced> AHMED_: you can go in to #English and have a conversation with me in there if you want.
[01:36] <tensorpudding> dork: it works fine for me
[01:37] <MK`> so, I dunno how you'd get that data to linux.
[01:37] <tjiggi_fo> tensorpudding, he's gone
[01:37] <KGB> I can't add it to the extended partition?
[01:37] <tensorpudding> i noticed
[01:37] <MK`> Not from the other side
[01:37] <MK`> the extended partition has to be contiguous
[01:37] <KGB> and I can't reorder it?
[01:37] <MK`> You can *move* the windows partition to the side I guess
[01:38] <MK`> but that will take many hours most likely
[01:38] <KGB> Well.
[01:38] <Alonea> real quick, how do I get the grub menu to show up on bootup instad of the kubuntu logo? like, a key combo or something during boot?
[01:38] <KGB> That... sucks
[01:38] <MK`> Make absolutely sure that you back up the windows partition if you do
[01:38] <KGB> MK`, I probably won't bother to try it... I might just backup the linux partition, nuke it, then re-make it
[01:38] <Black> Random question, is there any advantage to using a virtual environment over dual booting?
[01:39] <MK`> the space would still be separated
[01:39] <vectory> Alonea: i remember having read about that key combo but i forgot
[01:39] <vectory> giyf
[01:39] <KGB> Even if I remove the linux partitions?
[01:40] <MK`> yeah
[01:40] <KSHawkEye> Black: Yes, you can switch to your host OS without rebooting
[01:40] <Auriga> & is by magic upon a fresh install, five minutes in & no wireless connection loss lol.
[01:40] <MK`> the windows partition will physically be in the same place
[01:40] <KGB> Well
[01:40] <Black> So the advantage is really about convienence?
[01:41] <tjiggi_fo> Alonea, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/show-and-hide-the-grub-menu-on-ubuntu.html
[01:41] <KGB> Couldn't I just remove the non-windows partition, and use the unallocated space I have now for a new partition for linux?
[01:42] <Alonea> tjiggi_fo: esc it is. I just need to edit something just this once. Thanks. will try that
[01:42] <KGB> and leave the 7gb from linux right now unused?
[01:42] <MK`> how large is the other side?
[01:42] <KGB> The unallocated? 91 gb
[01:42] <MK`> yes, you can do that
[01:42] <KGB> Probably will
[01:42] <MK`> this is why I have multiple disks :P
[01:42] <ubbo> vectory: found the way!!! :D
[01:43] <Roasted> Anybody here good with NTP? I'm having trouble understanding a few things about it in regard to my setup at work.
[01:43] <vectory> whats the solution?
[01:43] <KGB> MK`, how much does a good sized external hard drive cost?
[01:43] <MK`> wait'
[01:43] <histo> Roasted: what is the problem?
[01:43] <MK`> nvm; KGB you can get a 2 TB external for $100
[01:43] <Roasted> histo, I have an ubuntu server running LTSP thin clients. I can't get the cl ients time to sync right. I have NTP installed on the server but I'm unsure what else to do
[01:43] <KGB> O.o
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[01:44] <KGB> MK`, looks like I know what I'm getting using my birthday money!
[01:44] <MK`> :P
[01:44] <Roasted> histo, read it already
[01:44] <syn-ack> Le sigh
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: well you can configure a server and update the time
[01:44] <KGB> well, thanks!
[01:44] <MK`> A few years ago I bought a 100 GB harddrive for $100
[01:44] <histo> Roasted: how is the system time compaired to the ltsp client times?
[01:44] <Roasted> histo, the server is fine. it's the clients that fail.
[01:44] <MK`> few years later 250 GB for $100
[01:45] <MK`> now 2 TB for $100 :P
[01:45] <histo> Roasted: maybe check the clients time zone settings
[01:45] <Roasted> histo, It varies, but tends to be within an hour
[01:45] <KSHawkEye> SSD is the way to go now
[01:45] <Roasted> histo, the clients get their time instructions from the server. I talked to the devs and my config file is correct. They say it's an NTP issue.
[01:45] <Khisanth> MK`: $80 or are you including shipping and taxes? :)
[01:45] <MK`> I bought these in-store
[01:46] <MK`> http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=414&name=External-Hard-Drives&Order=REVIEWS
[01:46] <histo> Roasted: could be perhaps there is an alternative to ntp out there
[01:46] <Roasted> histo, I'm using ntp...
[01:46] <syn-ack> there is no alternative to NTP
[01:47] <syn-ack> NTP is NTP is NTP
[01:47] <Roasted> syn-ack, why does my NTP hate me
[01:48] <syn-ack> Roasted, it could more of a case that your hardware clock can't keep time and therefore keeps slipping out of the strata it's supposed to be in
[01:48] <Roasted> syn-ack, I'm having a server vs client issue, though. My server is brand new and works fine. But I can't get my clients to dig up the proper time.
[01:48] <Roasted> syn-ack, I talked with the devs of LTSP and they had me run some command against NTP, which thereby suggested I was having NTP issues at the server level.
[01:48] <Roasted> So i'm just trying to learn more about it and see what could be done
[01:49] <syn-ack> Roasted, are you set in the wrong strata?
[01:49] <Roasted> syn-ack, I'm not sure. All I was told to do was install NTP. that's it. Is there more to it?
[01:49] <syn-ack> Roasted, ntp or ntpd?
[01:49] <Roasted> syn-ack, ntp in synaptic
[01:50] <syn-ack> For the client or the server?
[01:50] <Roasted> syn-ack, They said install NTP on the server, then set TIMESERVER=auto in the lts.conf (for the clients) and they should pick it up from server
[01:50] <Roasted> syn-ack, b ut they never do.
[01:50] <syn-ack> Roasted, ok, did you set a server from which it get it's time
[01:50] <syn-ack> ?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, where do I do that from?
[01:51] <uberspaced> Roasted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_time_protocol
[01:51] <syn-ack> like what you need to do is point your LAN NTP server something like "time.nist.gov" and then you let that sync for like 2 hrs
[01:51] <MK`> Would it be wise to put /mnt in a separate partition?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, oh, it takes that long to sync?
[01:51] <Roasted> syn-ack, also, where do I set it at? Where is the fifle located?
[01:52] <syn-ack> Roasted, yeah, because it calculates for jitter and the like
[01:52] <uberspaced> Roasted: man ntpdate
[01:52] <Roasted> uberspaced, been there.
[01:52] <uberspaced> and then start ntpd
[01:52] <Roasted> uberspaced, I have to watch what I do cause Im working with thin clients in the mix, so things are a bit different for me.
[01:52] <violets> Roasted: how long it takes to correct your clock depends on how far off your clock currently is
[01:53] <Roasted> violets, I guess I just thought after 5 minutes it should be done by now, so I left... ha. guess I wasn't patient enough. Hopefully by monday it'll be sync'd though :P
[01:53] <syn-ack> Roasted, Even if it's not that far off, which it rarely is, I tend to give it two hours
[01:53] <violets> ntpdate is a pain; sharp clock correction causes problems :\
[01:53] <Roasted> syn-ack, how often does that happen? that it needs to sync?
[01:53] <uberspaced> violets: it totaly depends ;)
[01:53] <uberspaced> Roasted: read the docs on NTP
[01:53] <Roasted> uberspaced, I am. But I don't see WHERE the file is to edit.
[01:53] <violets> I just leave ntpd running in the background all the time. It works well.
[01:53] <syn-ack> My gateway syncs ever 12 hrs after the initial sync
[01:54] <syn-ack> every, that is
[01:54] <uberspaced> ntp.conf, or ntpd.conf in /etc/ or /etc/default
[01:54] <uberspaced> do: find /etc |grep ntp
[01:54] <violets> uberspaced: sure, sometimes it doesn't cause issues. the NTP devs tend to take the view that an unmaintained piece of software that doesn't have good behavior shouldn't be used, though ;)
[01:54] <Roasted> uberspaced, if I edit my settings in system-administration-timeanddate does that edit NTP directly?
[01:55] <syn-ack> Roasted, after my initial sync, the annual sync only takes like 30 seconds
[01:55] <MK`> Is there a way for me to rename users? (not the display name)
[01:55] <uberspaced> I don't know.  I don't use guis to configure anything :-/
[01:55] <Roasted> uberspaced, I normally don't either. I just found it on google and was curious if it was the same thing.
[01:55] <Roasted> uberspaced, I only use SSH to my server so whatever I do is via term anyway :p
[01:56] <syn-ack> Roasted, Then my clients sync to the server only takes 2 or 3 seconds
[01:56] <uberspaced> MK`: you will have to edit a couple of files to rename users (if your system is not tied into a centralized authentication system)
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, maybe I just wasn't patient enough then.
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, I didn't realize it took that long.
[01:56] <KGB> MK`, still there?
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, not that it's a problem, I just had no idea, so I sat there for a few mins like screw this...
[01:56] <KSHawkEye> MK`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64021
[01:56] <syn-ack> again, it totally depends on how far off your hardware clock is
[01:56] <syn-ack> and how accurate it is
[01:56] <MK`> yes
[01:56] <Roasted> syn-ack, hardware clock as in BIOS?
[01:56] <syn-ack> yeah.
[01:57] <Glarbex> I find it is generally best, when starting with a wildly inaccurate clock, to run ntpdate and then start ntpd.
[01:57] <Roasted> syn-ack, lol, these thin clients are old, old old old HP boxes being used as terminals. Some of them even had dead BIOS batteries when I set them up yesterday.
[01:57] <uberspaced> hrm.  my last message didn't show up.
[01:57] <KGB> MK`, I think having the unallocated space on my hard drive just screwed it
[01:57] <uberspaced> oh well.
[01:57] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: What are you, living in the past? :-)  ntpd has supported step-tickers for ages.
[01:57] <KGB> Well, for now
[01:57] <KGB> My grub file is gone
[01:57] <KGB> (not unusual)
[01:57] <syn-ack> Roasted, and imo, at least, you should keep that server in the UTC timezone
[01:58] <KGB> But
[01:58] <Glarbex> KB1JWQ: Well, I haven't actually done this for a while.
[01:58] <Roasted> syn-ack, UTC?
[01:58] <MK`> thanks for those answers
[01:58] <Glarbex> I was under the impression that ntpd took quite a while after starting up before deciding to change the clock anyway, though.
[01:58] <MK`> KGB: did you install it on the right disk
[01:58] <KGB> I try to remake the grub file, and I now aparently have 3 hard disks
[01:58] <syn-ack> Roasted, Universal Time, Zulu time, GMT, whatever you want to call it
[01:58] <Roasted> ah
[01:58] <sysor> anyone able to answer a really dumb nvidia question for me.  Not specificly ubuntu related, just hardware related in general
[01:58] <Glarbex> Whereas running ntpdate first gets the clock reset straight away.
[01:59] <Roasted> syn-ack, where is the config at for ntp? I'm seeing /etc/ntp.conf but its empty. Not sure if it's supposed to be...
[01:59] <violets> NTPd does not simply change the current time, it changes the length of seconds so that the hardware clock approaches reality.
[01:59] <KGB> MK`, I have one hard disk
[01:59] <violets> This is rather important for several applications, most of which are server-related.
[01:59] <MK`> o_O
[01:59] <tjiggi_fo> sysor, ask and find out
[01:59] <sysor> kk :)
[01:59] <syn-ack> Roasted, are you running Ubuntu Desktop for this server or Ubuntu Server?
[01:59] <KGB> Should I re-add the 91 gb to the windows?
[01:59] <MK`> Go to the disk utility
[01:59] <MK`> tell me what it shows
[01:59] <KGB> On what?
[01:59] <KGB> gparted?
[01:59] <Roasted> syn-ack, Ubuntu Desktop. I'm using Edubuntu actually since I work at a school.
[02:00] <Glarbex> violets: True.
[02:00] <MK`> System > Administration > Disk Utility
[02:00] <KGB> MK`, not on ubuntu
[02:00] <sysor> I'm looking at buying a laptop with an nVidia GTX 460m, now some like asus list it as having 1 gig video ram, while others like toshiba list it has having 1.5 gig.   Whats the deal? can it be over clocked? or does it really come with 2 different ram capasities?
[02:00] <Glarbex> However, if the clock is very wrong, that takes a long time, and one might not be running such applications.
[02:00] <syn-ack> Roasted, That's why it's empty. It's not there in the desktop version, it's handled by gconf, iirc
[02:00] <KGB> I just rebooted onto gparted's liveCD
[02:00] <Roasted> syn-ack, meaning the GUI? (system - admin - time and date?)
[02:00] <unomystEz> I tried installing Ubuntu 10.10 but I get a [drm] nouveau error saying something like "bit 16 expected = 0 but was 0x011000000" or something or other
[02:00] <unomystEz> any ideas?
[02:00] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: Right.  step-tickers does the equivalent of ntpdate every time you start ntpd.
[02:00] <syn-ack> Roasted, yep
[02:01] <Glarbex> KB1JWQ: Hmm, it does it on startup these days?
[02:01] <unomystEz> I read it could be related to the fact that I have an nvidia quadro card
[02:01] <Roasted> syn-ack, is it wise to have more than 1 server selected? I have quite a list here.
[02:01] <Logan_> !ot | sysor
[02:01] <KB1JWQ> Glarbex: If you populate the step-tickers file it does.
[02:01] <MK`> is it only gparted?
[02:01] <MK`> or is it an ubuntu livecd
[02:01] <tmbg> unomystEz: I too have a quadro. I had to switch to the nv or nvidia driver
[02:01] <KGB> Only gparted
[02:01] <sysor> wup sorry bout that
[02:01] <Glarbex> How long has it been that way for?
[02:01] <syn-ack> Roasted, I do two or three, but it's not really that important, imo
[02:01] <MK`> then yeah, tell me the partitions in order
[02:01] <tmbg> nouveau is broken for my card
[02:01] <unomystEz> tmbg: well this is during the install... so not sure how to do that
[02:01] <syn-ack> tmbg!
[02:01] <Roasted> syn-ack, you the man. thanks for your time. it's appreciated.
[02:01] <syn-ack> oh my
[02:01] <tmbg> unomystEz: use the other installer
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: how is the nv/nvidia driver compared to the nouveau driver?
[02:02] <syn-ack> tmbg, from undernet?
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: which installer?
[02:02] <syn-ack> Roasted, np.
[02:02] <thos_> s'anybody know how to install gnome 3.0 under maverick?
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: alternate.iso?
[02:02] <tmbg> syn-ack: that's TMBG.
[02:02] <tjiggi_fo> sysor, they just use different (read 'more creative') ways of measuring it.
[02:02] <tmbg> unomystEz: exactly
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: okie doke
[02:02] <tmbg> may have to start in text mode.
[02:02] <unomystEz> how do you force text mode?
[02:02] <io> chi può aiutarmi un attimo...sono nuovo
[02:02] <tmbg> then generate and X config, and then change the driver.
[02:02] <tmbg> should be an option in the installer
[02:02] <KGB> /dev/mmcblk0 (7.40 GiB), /dev/sda (465.77 GiB), /dev/sdb (491.88 GiB)
[02:02] <unomystEz> tmbg: hmm, I'll check again.. I only saw some graphical menu
[02:03] <unomystEz> tmbg: in the installer that is
[02:03] <KGB> MK`, The normal disk I have is /dev/sda
[02:03] <KGB> Wait
[02:03] <MK`> is sdb an unrelated disk?
[02:03] <KGB> Uh
[02:03] <tmbg> unomystEz: I think the alternate iso has a text only version
[02:03] <KGB> Could it read a memory stick as a disk?
[02:03] <MK`> yes
[02:03] <KGB> ah
[02:03] <KGB> yes it did
[02:03] <syn-ack> Roasted, See, I block literally everything on my LAN outbound except for what I allow to go, NTP being one of them, so everything has to sync to my LAN's NTP server
[02:04] <KGB> Well, sdb is eliminated now
[02:04] <tmbg> honestly I'm pretty cheese about nouveau being default.
[02:04] <KGB> but
[02:04] <KGB> I don't know what that first one is
[02:04] <tmbg> it's far too broken to be the default driver
[02:04] <unomystEz> tmbg: how is the nv/nvidia driver, just as good (hopefully) as the nouveau?
[02:04] <Roasted> syn-ack, well we're in a production environment at work, which is a school district. I have a time server on windows witht our one domain controller, but like I said I wasn't sure what the heck was wrong with my servers, but I guess I was impatient.
[02:04] <MK`> well
[02:05] <MK`> let's focus on sda
[02:05] <KGB> ok
[02:05] <MK`> what partitions are on it?
[02:05] <metrix> I would like to take a font, tie it some letters and output a bitmap array in memory or even to stdout.. Is there such a thing already made?
[02:05] <tmbg> unomystEz: at least for my card, the nv driver was better.
[02:05] <unomystEz> nice
[02:05] <Roasted> syn-ack, I had just set the TIMEZONE to be Eastern instead of syncing it with the server. TIMEZONE made it come down in 5 minutes or less, but it had to sync with each bootup of the clients. I read more about setting the actual timeserver today and I just had no idea it took a goo dchunk of time to set up initially
[02:05] <metrix> I was thinking something similar to sysvbanner package, but in a binary array format .
[02:05] <tmbg> it's a bit blasphemous because of the binary blob, but my favorite driver is the nvidia binary driver.
[02:05] <unomystEz> I guess the only issue now if I run Ubuntu as my primary desktop is no itunes
[02:05] <tmbg> I always forget if that's nv or nvidia.
[02:05] <unomystEz> unless I can do it via VirtualBox
[02:05] <KGB> sda1, sda2, sda4, sda5, sda6, sda3, then 91mb of unallocated
[02:05] <syn-ack> tmbg, nv
[02:05] <KGB> which used to belong to sda3
[02:06] <KGB> Should I try and give it bacl?
[02:06] <KGB> *back
[02:06] <unomystEz> tmbg: can you do lsmod -v | grep n
[02:06] <MK`> where is linux installed?
[02:06] <tmbg> unomystEz: the machine with the quadro is at home, I'm at work
[02:06] <unomystEz> tmbg: ah
[02:06] <syn-ack> MK`, /boot
[02:06] <KGB> Sda4 is an extended, with sda5 and sda6 contained within it
[02:06] <thos_> rugby is bollocks
[02:06] <KGB> I think sda5 contains my linux
[02:06] <KGB> since it's ext4
[02:07] <unomystEz> hope this flies on my SSD drive
[02:07] <KGB> sda6 is linux-swap
[02:07] <KGB> However
[02:07] <KGB>  /dev/mmcblk0 is fat32, and 7.4 GiB, which is the same as my ubuntu partition...
[02:08] <MK`> I am lost there, I do not know, sorry.
[02:08] <KGB> Oi.
[02:08] <KGB> So.
[02:08] <MK`> hm
[02:08] <KGB> You don't have any idea as to what I should do from here?
[02:09] <MK`> one moment
[02:10] <MK`> where is win7?
[02:10] <KGB> sda3
[02:10] <thos_> well this place has been a waste of time
[02:11] <MK`> did you move it to the end of the drive?
[02:11] <KGB> no, the unallocated is at the end
[02:11] <thos_> KGB teh attention hawg
[02:11] <MK`> how much space?
[02:11] <KGB> Should I just recombine it?
[02:11] <trism> MK`: it appears it is a font issue, I'm trying out otf-yozvox-yozfont and it is displaying it correctly
[02:11] <KGB> The unallocated? Or sda3?
[02:11] <MK`> i tried it in times new roman and monospace
[02:11] <MK`> the unallocated
[02:11] <MK`> thos sorry :(
[02:11] <MK`> damn
[02:11] <KGB> 91
[02:12] <KGB> er
[02:12] <KGB> 91.01gb
[02:12] <MK`> Oh
[02:12] <MK`> what is sda4?
[02:12] <unomystEz> rebooting to try the alternate CD
[02:12] <KGB> Sda4 is an extended
[02:12] <KGB> w/ sda5 and sda6
[02:12] <MK`> weren't you going to remove that?
[02:12] <becky> hi all, i run ubuntu on dell mini 10v and after an upgrade I lost the defaul resolution of 1024x600 an now am stuck in 1024x768 but cant see bottom part
[02:12] <KGB> I was
[02:12] <KGB> but
[02:13] <becky> of screen....help....1024 resolution not showing up
[02:13] <KGB> I decided to wait until tomorrow to do so
[02:13] <Alvarin__> dwarf00
[02:13] <MK`> oh
[02:13] <MK`> did you change anything? lol
[02:13] <KGB> No
[02:13] <MK`> oh
[02:13] <KGB> Should I recombine?
[02:13] <becky> also, when i first boot the dell logo is too far down on the screen....even the bios is in wrong resolution....again bottom cut off
[02:14] <MK`> eh...
[02:14] <MK`> with what?
[02:14] <KGB> gparted
[02:14] <KGB> er
[02:14] <KGB> recombine sda3 and unallocated
[02:14] <MK`> just leave it until you move windows to the end of the drive
[02:14] <MK`> they're separated
[02:14] <MK`> er
[02:14] <KGB> If I recombine it, windows *will* be at the end of the drive
[02:14] <MK`> well if you want to keep it for windows yeah
[02:14] <KGB> Ok
[02:14] <MK`> you can't shrink it to the right :P
[02:15] <KSHawkEye> Who is responsible for compiling the software that can be found in the APT? Canonical?
[02:15] <KGB> wait a second..
[02:15] <MK`> *headdesk*
[02:15] <MK`> wait until you get another HD maybe
[02:15] <MK`> heh
[02:15] <KGB> Uh
[02:16] <KGB> Not going to happen for a bit
[02:16] <MK`> ok
[02:16] <KGB> I need the computer, too
[02:16] <MK`> just combine it into windows
[02:16] <MK`> I'd use windows to do so
[02:16] <SniperViper76> Its time for the horde wave!! omnomnomnomn
[02:16] <becky> hi all, i run ubuntu on dell mini 10v and after an upgrade I lost the defaul resolution of 1024x600 an now am stuck in 1024x768 but cant see bottom part
[02:16] <KGB> Uh.
[02:16] <becky>  also, when i first boot the dell logo is too far down on the screen....even the bios is in wrong resolution....again bottom cut off
[02:17] <KGB> That'll prove a problem
[02:17] <KGB> Since I need a grub file to Access windows...
[02:17] <MK`> how did you lose grub?
[02:17] <KGB> ah, well, lets see if rescatux will work now
[02:17] <KGB> MK`, It happens for random reasons
[02:17] <MK`> ah well
[02:18] <MK`> I can't help with that
[02:18] <KGB> I have a solution for it, I think
[02:19] <semitones> does 10.10 use alsa or pulseaudio for sound?
[02:19] <KGB> The memory stick might have messed up rescatux
[02:19] <xangua> pulse semitones
[02:19] <semitones> ty :)
[02:19] <KGB> to think this was all for minecraft...
[02:20] <MK`> haha
[02:20] <KGB> I didn't have enough space to compile an inventory editor
[02:20] <semitones> Can pulseaudio stream what you're hearing to another computer?
[02:20] <unomystEz> well that is great... the alternate ISO can't be installed from from a USB drive
[02:20] <KGB> so I wanted to make my partition bigger... and you can guess the rest from there
[02:20] <unomystEz> and apparently the desktop ISO doesn't support a text mode installer
[02:20] <unomystEz> so people with nvidia quadro's are screwed
[02:21] <syn-ack> semitones, both
[02:21] <unomystEz> (unless they have optical drives)
[02:21] <semitones> syn-ack, that wasn't a "both" question?
[02:21] <syn-ack> semitones, ALSA is the kernel sound framework. Pulseaudio is just a soundserver.
[02:21] <KGB> Ohhhh!
[02:21] <semitones> syn-ack, oh ok :)
[02:21] <KGB> I figured out what the other drive was!
[02:22] <syn-ack> semitones, so, yeah, it was. :P
[02:22] <suicidolt> I installed clamtk from the ubuntu software center, but it says "a new version is available" when I click update.  I went to the website and downloaded it, but it's a tar.gz file.  How do I install it?
[02:22] <MK`> oh?
[02:22] <SniperViper76> Well
[02:22] <KGB> An SDHC card
[02:22] <semitones> syn-ack, i thought you were answering the second question
[02:22] <semitones> syn-ack, Can pulseaudio stream what you're hearing to another computer?
[02:23] <syn-ack> semitones, heh, I actually didn't see the second question.
[02:23]  * KGB really needs to check all his ports before he turns on his computer
[02:23] <syn-ack> semitones, and yes, Pulse can do that.
[02:23] <semitones> syn-ack, awesome! /me goes and does it
[02:23] <syn-ack> supposedly. I don't know how to do that, though
[02:24] <KGB> MK`, thanks for the help! (again)
[02:24] <semitones> syn-ack, there are instructions here i think https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
[02:24] <MK`> np :P
[02:24] <KGB> Well, I'll just go clear some space for my minecraft things now
[02:25] <syn-ack> Man, JPJ and Jimmy Page from Zep did a darn good cover of "Rock n Roll" with the Foo Fighters
[02:28] <anth_> hi all
[02:29] <taco_the_paco> hey, is there anyway to install ubuntu inside of windows without wubi? :|
[02:29] <anth_> use VM ware of virtual box
[02:30] <anth_> then install from those clients
[02:30] <taco_the_paco> (i want to be able to dualboot with windows)
[02:30] <anth_> then you will need to install ubuntu on a seperate partition
[02:30] <anth_> or with wubi
[02:31] <anth_> determine how much you think your going to use it and take it from there
[02:35] <semitones> can you load modules to pulseaudio whenever you want? or only when it's starting.
[02:38] <kostkon> semitones, pactl load-module *module_name*
[02:38] <semitones> kostkon, thank you :)
[02:42] <bc81> hi again.  i need to set the resolution of my file server to 1360x768 (it has no monitor) but when i do "xrandr -s 1360x768" it says, "Size 1360x768 not found in available modes"  it's for Xubuntu 10.10, any ideas on how to trick the OS into thinking a monitor with that native resolution is connected?
[02:44] <shuai> oh\
[02:44] <Ray2> What sub do I add to uname to get distro version
[02:44] <tensorpudding> bc81: how exactly are you using it? x11 forwarding?
[02:44] <inaxio> hey, ok so im having a problem with 2 partitions; i cannot mount, umount, or fsck them.  i am still unsure what to do, and i am currently on a livecd.  i can provide any information you need to help fix this, so please help!
[02:45] <bc81> tensorpudding: well, i'm connecting to it with vnc over my home network
[02:48] <judgepg> inaxio: what is the output of dmesg?  Do you see them in /dev/sdx?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> Would anyone know how to get gnome3 on 10.10?
[02:48] <judgepg> inaxio: I mean do you see a device in /dev/sdX that relates to the HDD partitions?
[02:48] <Gaming4JC> and has there been any issues...
[02:49] <inaxio> judgepg: all the partitions are there in /dev
[02:49] <dubs_> inaxio, as root type blkid and post the output
[02:50] <inaxio> dubs_: http://pastebin.com/1jjeAgs4
[02:50] <inaxio> judgepg: dmesg | grep sda http://pastebin.com/HdcdZmXK
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> help! anyone with experience on Asterix?
[02:51] <dubs_> so what does it say when you try to fsck the drive
[02:51] <kingsley> Does anyone here happen to know if a PDF reader, (like xpdf or evince) lets you highlight text? If so, which one?
[02:52] <inaxio> dubs_: fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[02:52] <inaxio> dubs_: it is infact, NOT mounted
[02:53] <KevinLaptop> On my laptop, I duel boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10. On Ubuntu, the internet is much slower then it is on Windblows. Anyway that I can fix this?
[02:54] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: Some say disabling IPV6 helps. Else install wireshark and see what's going on ;)
[02:54] <bobby> hola
[02:55] <Gaming4JC> !es | bobby
[02:55] <bobby> hello
[02:56] <bobby> yes
[02:56] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: K, I'll try it. thanks.
[02:56] <|Long|> what is the cmd to scandisk?
[02:57] <judgepg> inaxio: you could still run a check if it's not mounted.  Have you tried fsck -fC /dev/sda1
[02:57] <inaxio> judgepg: ill try that
[02:57] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: IPV6 is off.
[02:58] <inaxio> judgepg: same output
[02:58] <bc81> |Long|: man fsck
[02:59] <judgepg> Any luck with e2fsck?
[02:59] <v14d> ppl i need help
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: Hmm, I'm not sure then. This used to be good, but I see now it's a bit dated (2007) http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/speed-up-your-internet-connection-in-ubuntu-linux/
[02:59] <MuNKyN1Nj4> NickServ identify cb029557
[03:00] <bazhang> MuNKyN1Nj4, better change that
[03:00] <bazhang> v14d, with what?
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: On my PC there isn't much difference in Win7 vs. Ubuntu, could be drivers for wifi card or adapter I suppose...
[03:00] <v14d> i dont have sound
[03:00] <v14d> after trying to config my sound spdif 5.1
[03:00] <bazhang> v14d, try alsamixer in terminal and unmute the various channels
[03:00] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: Well, its only on my laptop. On my desktop the internet is perfectly fine.
[03:00] <v14d> i only have sound on movies 5.1 smplayer no sounds on system or music or movies 2.1
[03:01] <judgepg> inaxio: Try using the Slack live cd
[03:01] <judgepg> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674709
[03:01] <nixjr> is kernal 2.6.33 or higher out for ubuntu?
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> KevinLaptop: If you're using Wifi that may be why, but perhaps others can give other advice on this subject
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> :)
[03:01] <bazhang> nixjr, what version of ubuntu
[03:02] <bazhang> !info linux
[03:02] <KevinLaptop> Gaming4JC: ok, thanks :P
[03:02] <nixjr> bazhang, ill be doing a fresh install so whatever the latest is
[03:02] <bazhang> nixjr, ^
[03:02] <v14d> they arent muted  as i said only sound on movies 5.1 on smplayer no sound on system, music or movies 2.1
[03:03] <nixjr> bazhang, if i download the iso from the ubuntu site will it have the latest kernal built in, or wil it have an old one and ill have to run a bunch of updates after install?
[03:03] <bazhang> nixjr, should have one higher than you are asking, not sure of the exact one on the livecd though
[03:03] <v14d> not sound on youtube or other webpage tho
[03:04] <nixjr> bazhang, im planning on getting a ssd and was told i need trim, which is only on kernal 2.6.33 or higher, just wnated ot make sure it was there from the get go of my install
[03:04] <bazhang> nixjr, I'd expect so, yeah
[03:07] <Khisanth> v14d: do you have some other thing that plays audio running at the same time? just running not necessarily playing
[03:08] <v14d> Khisanth,  yeah different movies until the movie is ac3 5.1 it has sound on smplayer not on vlc, no sound on system or webpages or mp3 o other sound tho
[03:08] <v14d> Khisanth,  oh i get it no no i alreade restarted system
[03:10] <MikeDD> The problem has been fixed, regarding sudden inability to write to drive.
[03:10] <Wade> .whois mikedd
[03:10] <MikeDD> yeah, who am I?  :)
[03:10] <Abhijit> Wade, its /whois
[03:10] <jrmcm> does anyone know what repo the "dog" package is in?
[03:10] <Wade> Thanks : )
[03:11] <Abhijit> !info dog
[03:11] <jrmcm> ok then can "cat" read urls?
[03:12] <MikeDD> So anyway, the hard drive wasnt letting me have write access.. it turns out that I needed to run Disk Warrior on the mac to rebuild the drive
[03:13] <MikeDD> An improper shutdown or dismount caused it so have errors and Disk Warrior sorted it out.
[03:13] <MikeDD> I just clicked rebuild, problem solved.
[03:14] <gyrados> hey guys how are you tonight
[03:14] <uberspaced> not too shabby
[03:14] <ponicalica> Does anyone know why my ethernet connection would claim to be up yet periodically completely stop sending or recieving packets?
[03:14] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:15] <jrmcm> I need a way to pull a list of links from a website then search it with grep
[03:15] <jrmcm> preferably from the cl
[03:15] <ubuntu> hola !
[03:15] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [13 - I Don´t Know What To Do] CeBoLiNhA 2011
[03:15] <ubuntu> hi!
[03:15] <gyrados> i have a question, can anybody help me figure out how to bind certain processes to specific network interfaces like firefox to wlan0 chrome to wlan1?
[03:16] <MikeDD> I will be back later, inevitably right after I break something again....
[03:16] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:16] <MikeDD> You guys have a great night!
[03:16] <neto> sou novo no linux alguem pode me ajudar usar esse chat
[03:17] <xangua> !pt | neto
[03:17] <Tux3d> i have to copy some files from one of my partitions and i cant seem to find them, anyone could tell me where they are? Im using Slitaz
[03:18] <neto> digito isso  aonde  onde eu digito as msg mesmo
[03:18] <LukasB> Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on vmplayer... I think I need to install vm tools, but I think I need to put some commands into the ubuntu terminal... unfortunately I have the feeling ubunte expects me to have an english keyboard to put the commands in... what do I do?
[03:18] <jrmcm> I need a way to pull a list of links from a website then search it with grep
[03:18] <jrmcm> preferably from the cl
[03:18] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all
[03:19] <_Pksadiq> I got a laptop with broken screen, Half of the screen works, so how can I specify that area as my screen atleast on tty?
[03:19] <jrmcm> LukasB: when you install ubuntu you can choose what keyboard you use
[03:20] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:20] <Tux3d> i have to copy some files from one of my partitions and i cant seem to find them, anyone could tell me where they are? Im using Slitaz
[03:20] <Khisanth> jrmcm: curl or wget
[03:20] <Khisanth> curl url | grep would work :)
[03:21] <Khisanth> hopefully not on HTML
[03:21] <Awake_Atlast> Can anyone help me? Im trying to get ubuntu up and running on my Dell Mini netbook.. I've been trying all day to get it working.
[03:21] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:21] <gyrados> Jasen_: perhaps some dpkg reconfiguring?
[03:21] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: what are you stuck on?
[03:22] <jrmcm> Khisanth: thx brb gonna try it
[03:22] <Awake_Atlast> Well, ubutuntu hardy 8.04 was on it uberspaced
[03:22] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all the vildeos are choppy (like 1 frame a second).  I'm using lucid, and have a ati radeon hd 4670, with the proprietary fglrx drivers.
[03:22] <Jasen_> gyrados: Lol, i've never used dpkg to be honest o.O
[03:22] <LukasB> jrmcm: Hmm... I think I haven't installed ubuntu yet... The black screen came up, I put in username and password and nothing further would happen... Just the at the bottom of vm player it wanted me to install vm tools and in the help I found some codes... I assumed I could put it in that black screen cause it wants me to use them in the guest system...
[03:22] <gyrados> i think dpkg --reconfigure
[03:22] <gyrados> may fix it?
[03:22] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: and what's wrong now?
[03:22] <Jasen_> Let me try...
[03:22] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced:  so i downloaded the latest live dist and put it onto the usb. but now i think i really messed it up
[03:22] <LukasB> jrmcm: not codes sorry... commands
[03:22] <gyrados> run it at unity and compiz
[03:23] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. cant get broadcom 4312 wireless card to work. have installed .inf with ndiswrapper, ran b43fwcutter, and am currently using the STA driver. still says "disconnected" any ideas?
[03:23] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:23] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced: when booting from the usb it will return the message MBR and thats about it.
[03:23] <uberspaced> Awake_Atlast: I've had this weird experience where I couldn't (recently) dd an iso to a usb stick, I _had_ to burn it to a dvd and use that
[03:23] <uberspaced> it was on an acer netbook
[03:24] <Awake_Atlast> uberspaced:  Yea, i dont have an external drive =/
[03:24] <uberspaced> and believe me, I tried many different ways of putting the iso on the usb stick.
[03:24] <uberspaced> Try downloading a different distro, and see if that boots.
[03:24] <uberspaced> Or, use netboot.
[03:24] <uberspaced> I'd use netboot
[03:25] <Jasen_> I have an issue. I was messing with the setting for compiz and I disabled opengl which caused unity to crash, and even when i re-enabled everything and restarted ubuntu, unity is still broken. Anybody know why unity wont start? Compiz returns with "Couldn't open display"
[03:25] <Awake_Atlast> Also, i kinda tried formatting the partition from within the terminal to get ready for the new install
[03:25] <Awake_Atlast> maybe that is the issue, but then again ive also tried booting into gparted
[03:25] <uberspaced> Try different isos, different usb sticks etc
[03:26] <NixGeek> !repeat | Jasen_
[03:26] <jrmcm> LukasB:What os are you running vm on?
[03:26] <Jasen_> ubottu: k
[03:26] <Awake_Atlast> Jasen_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563574
[03:27] <NixGeek> !ubotu | Jasen_
[03:28] <root> hi
[03:29] <jrmcm> Khisanth: Does curl not work with html?
[03:29] <Khisanth> jrmcm: curl works for anything that is accessible through a url
[03:30] <tarsha> I installed ubuntu next to windows 7 now when it boots it asks me if i want to boot windows 7 or ubuntu.  if i pick windows it boots fine.  if i pick ubuntu instead of it listing kernels it tells me "windows has failed to boot.  please use windows disc to repair."
[03:30] <jrmcm> ok thx
[03:30] <tarsha> File: Ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr  status: 0x0000225  Will not load due to the application being missing or corrupt.
[03:30] <tjiggi_fo> rootirc | Guest72866
[03:30] <LukasB> jrmcm: win7
[03:30] <tarsha> anyone know?
[03:30] <tjiggi_fo> !rootirc | Guest72866
[03:30] <xangua> tarsha: installed ubuntu first¿
[03:31] <tarsha> xangua: nah i had win 7 installed first
[03:31] <tarsha> but i was updating ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04
[03:31] <jrmcm> Lukas: Yeah I had quite a few problems with vm and win7, I ended up just dual booting my system.
[03:31] <xangua> !natty | tarsha
[03:32] <NixGeek> I've tried to use every screen recorder I could find, but all the vildeos are choppy (like 1 frame a second).  I'm using lucid, and have a ati radeon hd 4670, with the proprietary fglrx drivers.  How can I record decent video WITHOUT DISABLING FGLRX?
[03:32] <syn-ack> tarsha, you don't need to be root to do that. That's what sudo's for
[03:32] <tarsha> I dont need root for what?
[03:32] <syn-ack> tarsha, Upgrading
[03:33] <tarsha> i used a usb and upgraded
[03:33] <tarsha> deleted my linux partiton first then selected install ubuntu alongside windows
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> dual boot usually ends in tear
[03:34] <phoenixsampras> s
[03:35] <bcbc2> tarsha: usually you'll get that if the wubildr.mbr is missing... or windows can't find it
[03:35] <tarsha> bcb2: so how would i fix it?
[03:36] <bcbc2> tarsha: confirm that wubildr.mbr is there, then use easyBCD or bcdedit.exe to confirm that the BCD entry is pointing at the right place
[03:37] <tarsha> bcbc2: do you have a guide?  I have no idea what that means.
[03:37] <bcbc2> tarsha: look on your usb in the \ubuntu\winboot\ folder and make sure wubildr.mbr is there
[03:37] <Theaxiom> I just installed ubuntu server on a box, and the hostname is set, but when I ping it from windows it does not resolve. What do I need to do?
[03:38] <SniperViper76> Well
[03:38] <Theaxiom> When I ping the IP it's fine, but the hostname, it's not.
[03:38] <Theaxiom> I can SSH in thru the IP because I installed OpenSSH
[03:38] <tarsha> on the usb i used to install linux off with u netbootin?
[03:38] <tarsha> i deleted it and put supergub on it to try and fix the problem but that didnt work either
[03:39] <bcbc2> tarsha: that error is windows trying to boot Wubi from wherever you installed it. That's the place you need to look
[03:40] <bcbc2> tarsha: i.e. if you installed to drive 'D:' look for D:\ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[03:40] <tarsha> ah ok ill check h
[03:41] <Danielcg25> After using Aircrack on Ubuntu, Windows 7 cant connect to the Internet via my Wi-Fi network.
[03:41] <tarsha> ah i cant access the linux drive from windows
[03:42] <Danielcg25> Do I have to take the card out of Monitor Mode?
[03:42] <tarsha> what do i do if the wubi is there?  what do i do if its not?
[03:43] <Tux_> how do i get r/w privileges to a app (iso mounter) from the terminal to a specific location?
[03:43] <Zorlin> hey guys
[03:43] <bcbc2> tarsha: that Ubuntu entry in the windows boot manager was put there by you doing a Wubi install
[03:44] <Danielcg25> I even uninstalled the driver in Windows 7 and rebooted twice
[03:44] <Zorlin> so I have an apache2 installation, built from source
[03:44] <bcbc2> tarsha: the drive you installed to will have an \ubuntu directory. If that is no longer present, you don't have a wubi install anymore and that boot entry will do nothing
[03:44] <tarsha> oh i see.  yes i installed first with wubi.  then deleted the partiton and used unetbootin to install.
[03:44] <Zorlin> how do I enable mod_ssl? having major issues
[03:44] <Danielcg25> I've run all the diagnostic things.
[03:44] <Zorlin> I can't find the a2enmod script
[03:45] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok so use easybcd to delete that entry from the Windows boot manager
[03:45] <bcbc2> tarsha: it's not good for anything anymore
[03:45] <tarsha> and then i will be able to boot linux?
[03:46] <Awake_Atlast> when formatting a usb stick for use with applying a fresh install what format is optimal? FAT? Or Fat32? =/
[03:46] <tarsha> never heard of easybcd before
[03:46] <bcbc2> tarsha: you can use bcdedit.exe if you prefer but easybcd is supposed to be easier
[03:47] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you installed Ubuntu you would have been prompted to install the grub2 bootloader - that's what you need to boot your new install
[03:47] <timClicks> my laptop's trackpad hasn't worked since I upgraded to 10.10
[03:47] <Theaxiom> I just installed ubuntu server on a box, and the hostname is set, but when I ping it from windows it does not resolve. What do I need to do?
[03:48] <Theaxiom> When I ping the IP it's fine, but the hostname, it's not.
[03:48] <Theaxiom> I can SSH in thru the IP because I installed OpenSSH
[03:48] <tarsha> it is installed though.  i can use supergrub to boot into it.
[03:48] <timClicks> any ideas on how to diagnose what's wrong & fix?
[03:48] <tarsha> ubuntu that is
[03:48] <bcbc2> tarsha: sometimes when you install from USB it puts the bootloader on the USB by accident, so try booting from the USB again, and then re-install the grub2 bootloader
[03:48] <Zorlin> how do I enable mod_ssl on an Apache2 2.2.17 installation (built from source), given that my system says a2enmod doesn't actually exist? (Ubuntu 10.04)
[03:49] <tarsha> is there an option to reinstall grub?  i selected install alongside wndows and it loaded and never gave me any other prompts.  just installed then rebooted
[03:49] <pcpower_> I have a monitor that will not work on any resolution higher than 640x480 on Ubuntu, but on windows it works at 1920x1200. Also I'm using the proprietary nvidia driver (and I have to, for 3D accel). Any idea how to fix this?
[03:49] <timClicks> Zorlin, you should check the apache2 docs
[03:49] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, create a symlink in mods_enabled
[03:49] <GatunoRox> hello
[03:49] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, do you know about mods_enabled and mods_available?
[03:49] <LukasB> hello
[03:50] <GatunoRox> I'm having a little trouble with my Grub installed on USB HDD
[03:50] <GatunoRox> on my Pc, the device mapping (hd0,0) where the grub is installed, the grub boots fine
[03:50] <Danielcg25> Ok now it's working. I rebooted a third time, and apparently that ixe it
[03:51] <whitenoise_wn> what is the best app to take an insert of an *audio cd*, then rip and encode using LAME highest settings and save the mp3s to a *SMB* shared directory (in one app)?
[03:51] <bcbc2> tarsha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[03:51] <GatunoRox> when I change the computer, it identifies my USB HDD with other device names, like (hd1,0) and so on, thus leaving grub unuseful
[03:52] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: Hi, I tried that
[03:52] <Zorlin> ssl.conf and ssl.load are in mods_available, and I symlinked them into mods_enabled
[03:52] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, is your apache2.conf set to look in that directory?
[03:52] <tarsha> bcbc2: I tried that but when I run find /boot/grub/stage1 it tells me it failed to find the file
[03:52] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you can boot your ubuntu, then usually "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" is all you need. But you should check that guide to make sure you're installing to the correct drive
[03:52] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: how do I check that?
[03:52] <Theaxiom> Zorlin, read apache docs
[03:52] <bcbc2> tarsha: that's grub legacy, you want grub2
[03:52] <pcpower_> whitenoise_wn: any program can save to an SMB mount
[03:52] <violets> Theaxiom, Zorlin: investigate a2enmod and a2dismod.
[03:52] <GatunoRox> Can I define the root for grub stage2 so its won't change when using other computers?
[03:52] <Zorlin> violets: a2enmod isn't on this system
[03:53] <theRealBallchalk> hello
[03:53] <violets> not Ubuntu :(
[03:53] <Zorlin> violets: it is ubuntu
[03:53] <theRealBallchalk> who's running linux on a Mac Mini?
[03:53] <Zorlin> apache is compiled/installed from source
[03:53] <violets> not Ubuntu packaging :(
[03:53] <Zorlin> ...
[03:53] <tarsha> so i got that error because i was trying to install grub legacy?
[03:54] <bcbc2> tarsha: trying to find grub/stage1? Yes
[03:54] <tarsha>  yeah
[03:54] <tarsha> it said the same thing when i tried to use supergrub install grub
[03:56] <Zorlin> Theaxiom: can I get any pointers other than "read the apache docs"?
[03:56] <Zorlin> o
[03:56] <Zorlin> i've been digging through documentation all day =_=
[03:56] <bcbc2> tarsha: grub2 has been standard on ubuntu since release 9.10
[03:57] <xmarkoz> hello
[03:58] <tarsha> so i just need to try to reinstall grub2?
[03:58] <tarsha> can i do that from the software center?
[03:59] <GatunoRox> Can someone help me troubleshoot my grub on external HDD?
[03:59] <oitofelix> hello all!
[03:59] <bcbc2> tarsha: grub2 is already installed. enter "grub-install -v" to confirm. You just need the bootloader
[04:00] <tarsha> k go to terminal and grub-install -v  thats all?
[04:00] <bcbc2> tarsha: that's to confirm it's installed. What version does it tell you?
[04:01] <tarsha> im on windows right now.  i will have to reboot and come back into irc
[04:01] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok don't bother
[04:01] <bcbc2> tarsha: if you installed 10.10 you have grub2 installed
[04:02] <tarsha> i installed 11.04
[04:02] <bcbc2> tarsha: same deal - you have grub2
[04:04] <Zorlin> meh, never mind
[04:04] <tarsha> so i need to find a guide on restoring grub 2?
[04:04] <Zorlin> i'm just going to build the freakin' module in
[04:04] <j5> since upgrading to firefox 4, my flash has lots of flickering, missing chunks, and other weirdness. anyone know of a fix? (ubuntu 10.10)
[04:04] <pragmaticenigma> downgrade back to the version of firefox supported by ubuntu
[04:05] <pragmaticenigma> otherwise you will need to refer your question towards the firefox room
[04:05] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. trouble getting broadcomm 4312 wireless to work. tried steps on ubuntu's site with no joy. have b43 installed, installed driver .inf with ndiswrapper, and cmwl-kernel-source. any ideas?
[04:06] <GatunoRox> Is someone in there that could help me with my Grub problems?
[04:06] <druciferre> Anyone familiar with configuring hardware sound profiles in Ubuntu?
[04:06] <bcbc2> tarsha: that link I gave you above shows how to identify your drive. Boot ubuntu, check it and if it's /dev/sda, then run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". That's it
[04:07] <tarsha> ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[04:07] <bcbc2> tarsha: ok so that should do it
[04:08] <tarsha> so sudo grub-install /dev/sda5?
[04:08] <tarsha> k
[04:08] <bcbc2> tarsha: No
[04:08] <tarsha> oh lol
[04:08] <bcbc2> tarsha: that link I gave you above shows how to identify your drive. Boot ubuntu, check it and if it's /dev/sda, then run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda". That's it
[04:08] <tarsha> k
[04:08] <tarsha> ill be back
[04:08] <Awake_Atlast> tarsha: sudo can also be used  su grub-instal /dev/sda
[04:08] <tarsha> thanks for the help btw
[04:09] <bcbc2> tarsha: no prob good luck
[04:12] <dsnyders> !backup
[04:13] <doomrobo> how do I set up touchegg to work with my macbook pro?
[04:13] <Dionysus2m> new to linux. trouble getting broadcomm 4312 wireless to work. tried steps on ubuntu's site with no joy. have b43 installed, installed driver .inf with ndiswrapper, and cmwl-kernel-source. any ideas?
[04:13] <druciferre> Anyone know how to enable digital and analog output in the hardware sound profile ?
[04:14] <doomrobo> I installed the xf86 drivers and xorg-input-synapics but whenever I start up touchegg, it just gives me "Reading config from '/home/x/.touchegg/touchegg.conf' " and just stays there
[04:15] <timClicks> my trackpad isn't available via `cat /proc/bus/input/devices`, any suggestions on how to enable the computer to find it?
[04:28] <Jerub> i'm having trouble with 802.11n networking on my x200s with an intel 5100 wireless card, after upgrading to 11.04.
[04:28] <Jerub> i'm wondering if anyone knows a good place to go to find later or earlier kernels to test possible fixes for my problem?
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> 11.04 is officially released and not supported at this time
[04:29] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | Jerub
[04:29] <Jerub> that's excellent. thank you for stating the obvious. i'm attempting to resolve a probable problem with the unreleased distribution and would like to perhaps get it fixed before release.
[04:30] <Jerub> you know, because it's the responsible thing to do.
[04:30] <pragmaticenigma> Use the room #ubuntu+1 or report a bug to the bug tracking system... there are not very many developers monitoring this room for that sort of thing
[04:30] <Jerub> thank-you
[04:32] <I-are-> can anyone tell me if linux uses ttf files for fonts and if so where they are stored in the filesystem?
[04:32] <Dionysus2m> i cant get my wireless to see anything. it still says disconnected. any ideas what i should try next?
[04:33] <I-are-> or where I can find fonts that will work with blender?
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> I-are-: TTF fonts were originally liscensed and required a fee to use... you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras which will install some TTF fonts
[04:33] <dsnyders> I-are-, you could issue a find command to locate them.
[04:33] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Is your wireless access point set to broadcast its SSID?
[04:34] <Dionysus2m> yes
[04:34] <I-are-> pragmaticenigma, and if I do not want to use the ttf fonts then, where an I find linux fonts?
[04:34] <dsnyders> I-are-, find / -iname *ttf -print
[04:34] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: when setting up your connection there could be a checkbox to connect to a hidden network
[04:35] <Dionysus2m> prag: have two other comps online
[04:35] <gtech> hello, I reinstalled xorg because my graphics driver configuration was messed up, now my desktop is not only inverted, but it's a mirror image. How do I go about reconfiguring this?
[04:35] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Sometimes I have found that I have to turn on the broadcast SSID temporarily so that it can find the AP then turn off the SSID broadcast
[04:36] <Dionysus2m> SSID broadcast is on. its not seeing any. it says disconnected.
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> I-are-: I'm not familiar with fonts, just know that TTF fonts only recently lost their patent and therefore are now more open
[04:36] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Have you attempted to reboot since setting it up?
[04:37] <Dionysus2m> prag: several times. ive installed b43, and bcmwl-kernel as well as install the .inf using ndiswrap
[04:37] <CarlFK> I-are-: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont/FreeMono.ttf
[04:37] <JamezQ> Dionysus2m: Try installing wicd?
[04:38] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Did you first try install drivers via the Restricted Drivers tool?
[04:39] <Dionysus2m> prag: restricted dirvers tool? how do you do that?
[04:39] <jelso> Hi #ubuntu! I installed the natty beta but I can't get it to boot now. No grub menu. It just falls back to my windows install. How can I get grub to load?
[04:39] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: It might be too late but it's under your System => administration menu
[04:40] <CarlFK> jelso: install maverick
[04:40] <Dionysus2m> prag: then hardware drivers? i dont see anything for restricted drivers
[04:40] <pragmaticenigma> !natty | jelso
[04:41] <Dionysus2m> i have not tried wicd yet...
[04:41] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not running Ubuntu (I use Kubuntu) so my menus are different from yours
[04:41] <jelso> Sorry...
[04:41] <JamezQ> jelso: Yup, report it, but natty is just in beta, wait a week for beta 2
[04:41] <frybye> Hi - no one seems to be active in #ubuntu+1 perhaps sbdy here can help me - I installed compiz (in natty-) and seems that was a real bad idea - now unity is gone even after uninstalling compiz...
[04:41] <CarlFK> Dionysus2m: system, "Additional Drivers"
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> thanks CarlFK
[04:42] <fission6> how do i give the current user (me) read and write permissions on /var/www/public
[04:42] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: He really should just wait for the general release
[04:42] <Tom-B> For the last 6.5 years I've been having an affair with a married woman 17 years my senior.
[04:42] <Dionysus2m> prag: dont see "additional drivers" anywhere
[04:43] <Tom-B> I left her today, fully drove round and told her I was leaving
[04:43] <JamezQ> fission6: chown youruser:youruser /var/www/public OR
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: chmod 664
[04:43] <JamezQ> fission6: ^ that
[04:43] <Tom-B> her pillow smells amazing
[04:43] <fission6> just chmod 664
[04:43] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: I don't recommend changing the owner or group on the file since then your web server may no longer be able to access those files
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: no, run "man chmod" for a better explanation
[04:44] <fission6> yeah i want to be able to allow another process running my home directory write to that folder, i still want it owned
[04:44] <fission6> by root
[04:44] <pragmaticenigma> !chmod
[04:44] <JamezQ> wait, woulden't he need chmod 665, not 664
[04:45] <JamezQ> 664 is just read
[04:45] <Dionysus2m> prag: which wicd should i install?...all?
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: if you are running a seperate program, you could execute it as "sudo programname"
[04:45] <fission6> hmmm
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> it would be able to access and modify those folders without changing the file permissions
[04:45] <Gval> Hi guys
[04:45] <CarlFK> pragmaticenigma: sudo for that is kinda overkill
[04:45] <fission6> well either way that permissioning is still not letting the process right
[04:45] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: You don't want executable files in your web server folder
[04:45] <Gval> may i have some help about partition table ?
[04:46] <ylmf> ???
[04:46] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: ah, I meant chmod 666
[04:46] <Gval> i need to restore it but i can-t ead that
[04:46] <CarlFK> fission6: i generally point the webserver to a dir that the user has write perms to
[04:46] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: 5 would be read+ex, but 6 should be read+write like he wants
[04:46] <gtech> hello, I reinstalled xorg because my graphics driver configuration was messed up, now my desktop is not only inverted, but it's a mirror image. How do I go about reconfiguring this? I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[04:46] <pragmaticenigma> JamezQ: still don't recommend that since it allows any user/group to modify files
[04:47] <Gval> read
[04:47] <taco_the_paco> is there a way i can install ubuntu within windows 7? i want to be able to dual boot, i do not have a flash/cd drive, and wubi doesn't give me an option to install, it just says "demo and full installation, Learn more"
[04:47] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: I see
[04:47] <fission6> CarlFK, right i am trying to create a dir but to no luck i keep getting write permission issues from my server which is running as me
[04:47] <pragmaticenigma> 664 alows groups and users to modify the file but all other processes users and groups can only read the file
[04:47] <CarlFK> fission6: "server running as me" ?
[04:48] <milamber> !permissions
[04:48] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you will need to create the directory using sudo then change the pemissions so you can access it from your user account
[04:48] <JamezQ> pragmaticenigma: Yea, I get that, but I would assume he is not in the user, or group. But yea, you are right, thanks for educating me a bit.
[04:48] <Gval> may i have some help about partition table ? iah accidentally deleted it and now im running linux with liveCD
[04:49] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[04:49] <JamezQ> Speaking of which, would it be wise to add your user to www-data group, or something like that to get access to /var/www without changing permissions
[04:49] <fission6> ok i just created the directory using sudo now i should change the owner of that folder? and then the permissions? pragmaticenigma
[04:49] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, is that wubi? i kinda want more than 30 GB
[04:49] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: just change the permissions
[04:49] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: that's the only way to install in Windows
[04:49] <CarlFK> Gval: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  " It was primarily designed to help recover lost partitions..."
[04:49] <pragmaticenigma> make sure the user is the same as other folders and files in that directory
[04:50] <Gval> yes carl
[04:50] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, is there a way to expend wubi once installed?
[04:50] <fission6> to what doesn't seem to like anythingi give it for my $uSER
[04:50] <Gval> exactly i am using that
[04:50] <Gval> but i dunno how to read it
[04:51] <Gval> because i can select which one i want to restore
[04:51] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yes, but if you want a real install you should do that instead of wubi
[04:51] <Gval> maybe here i can have an hand on how to read it and restore simply
[04:52] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: I'm not sure what you are creating the folder "public" for... but you might be beyond on my ability to help you at this point
[04:52] <iflema> taco_the_paco: backup important data, resize the back of windows partition or another partition and install ubuntu, native, on/in the new free space.
[04:52] <fission6> ok i did sudo chmod -R u+rw public/ i can get into public/ but touch hello gives permission errors
[04:52] <taco_the_paco> iflema, how am i suppose to do that without a flash drive or cd? o.o
[04:52] <iflema> taco_the_paco: goodone :p
[04:53] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: what are you going to do if you need to repair something - if you can't boot a cd or usb you're hooped
[04:53] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, i can take the laptop apart and just plugin the HDD to another computer, although i want to avoid that, not a big fan of taking things apart.
[04:53] <Gval> CarlFK can i send you a priv8 msg  to solve it ? or can u give me some directiones ?
[04:54] <CarlFK> Gval: sure
[04:54] <iflema> taco_the_paco: use another com to host PXE server and host install images on the lan?!?!?
[04:54] <taco_the_paco> :o
[04:54] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: it's possible to migrate a wubi to a regular install - it's a bit roundabout but some people in your position have done that. What version of windows do you have?
[04:54] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, windows 7
[04:54] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you will have to modify the permissions for the file your trying to edit
[04:55] <iflema> taco_the_paco: grub2 can be made to boot iso's....
[04:55] <taco_the_paco> o_o
[04:55] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: ok good - so use windows 7's disk manager to shrink the windows drive to make room. Then install wubi and migrate it using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[04:56] <milamber> fision6: what is the end goal of this?
[04:56] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, i have about 200 GB free for ubuntu ;)
[04:56] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: you'll need to install gparted in wubi to prepare the partitions
[04:56] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: 200GB should be enough ;)
[04:57] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: if I was in your position I wouldn't do it though - I like to have a rescue plan
[04:57] <jasonwryan> Any reason why I can retrieve pages with w3m, but can't access them in browsers like FF & Chromium?
[04:58] <fission6> pragmaticenigma, the file i am trying to edit doesn't exist i am trying to write from a process running as the current user
[04:59] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, interesting, would i be able to upgrade to 11.04 just fine when it releases?
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> fission6: you would then have to change the user/group ownership or run your program as sudo
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> I recommend the latter
[04:59] <pragmaticenigma> taco_the_paco: Your update manager will prompt you to upgrade to 11.04 when it is released automatically
[04:59] <jon___> does anyone know where i can find db2html?
[05:00] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: shouldn't be an issue. Upgrades are working for wubi and I assume normal installs as welll
[05:00] <vectory> jasonwryan: no good one, no
[05:01] <wcheng> win7 下面有没有什么好用的分区软件啊
[05:01] <milamber> jon___: sudo apt-get install docbook-utils ?
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> !ch | wcheng
[05:01] <jasonwryan> vectory: other than todrive me insane, ofc :)
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> hmm... that didn't work
[05:01] <pragmaticenigma> someone wanna help wcheng get to the right room
[05:01] <jon___> milamber: thank you very much
[05:01] <milamber> !cn
[05:02] <Vizzl3> stymied by this nic bonding issue in 10.04
[05:02] <milamber> jon___: you may want to look into apt-file (you can see what packages files are in pretty easily :) )
[05:02] <vectory> jasonwryan: i suppose it was working ok before
[05:02] <fcomtois> hey guys, if I installed Natty nightly build, can I upgrade to something more recent?
[05:03] <milamber> fcomtois: more recent than a beta nightly build?
[05:03] <jasonwryan> vectory: yep: no problems. And I've not changed any configs/settings...
[05:03] <fcomtois> yes
[05:03] <fcomtois> milamber: yes
[05:03] <mrdeb> hi
[05:03] <vectory> jasonwryan: maybe u have installed sth that could be the reason?
[05:03] <fcomtois> milamber: the beta had a bug with wubi
[05:03] <jasonwryan> vectory: the only common thread is the pages all have elements served by EC2...
[05:04] <jasonwryan> brb
[05:04] <shuai> 又
[05:04] <milamber> fcomtois: are you looking for the most recent stable release?
[05:04] <pragmaticenigma> !cn | shuai
[05:04] <fcomtois> milamber: It's running fine as far as I can tell, but I lost one setting
[05:05] <fcomtois> milamber: basically the new menu should be more like OSX
[05:05] <fcomtois> but I am back to the old one under classic
[05:06] <milamber> fcomtois: i guess i'm not really understanding what you are looking for/what the issue is. natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <fcomtois> oh my bad :-)
[05:06] <milamber> fcomtois: quite alright, i was just trying to figure out exactly what you were looking for :)
[05:08] <jon___> milamber: is that a command?
[05:08] <milamber> !info apt-file | jon___
[05:09] <Dionysus2m> prag: installed wicd and still can't see any networks. iwconfig says "power management off". driver issue?
[05:09] <jon___> milamber: so i have to install it first, right?
[05:09] <joshua1983> Hola
[05:09] <Night_shade> Hello
[05:09] <joshua1983> buenas noches
[05:10] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: it's possible
[05:10] <joshua1983> alguien habla español?
[05:10] <milamber> jon___: correct, sudo apt-get install apt-file (it comes in *very* handy when trying to resolve dependencies if you ever have to compile from source)
[05:10] <Night_shade> Can someone help me set up my Portable full installation of Ubuntu on my USB HDD
[05:10] <Night_shade> ?
[05:10] <pcuser> hello
[05:11] <Night_shade> I really need help right now
[05:11] <Dionysus2m> prag: any ideas besides b43/bcwml-kernel/ndiswrapper installs?
[05:11] <shuai> what
[05:11] <pcuser> with what
[05:12] <Night_shade> I'm trying to set a full installation on my USB HDD to run on any computer
[05:12] <Relay4LifeUofM> Relay for Life is going on at the University of Michigan-Flint and we need your donations to find a CURE for CANCER!!!! Let’s make sure every Grandchild doesn’t miss out on meeting their grandparents like I did!!!!! Check out our Live-Steam and don’t forget to donate!!!!  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/relay4life-um-flint
[05:12] <speedrunnerG55> hey ubuntu hows it going
[05:12] <Night_shade> but I'm having problems due to device mapping changing from a computer to another
[05:12] <milamber> Night_shade: googlefu came up with this, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[05:13] <Night_shade> tried that already
[05:13] <giiker> Night_shade: Do you have a USB HDD or a USB flash drive that is recognized as a USB HDD?
[05:14] <pcuser> hdd
[05:14] <Night_shade> HDD
[05:14] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | Relay4LifeUofM
[05:14] <sicopath> where is the file that contains global keyboard shortcuts?  or what is the best file to edit keyboard shortcuts in?
[05:14] <pcuser> wow spam on irc
[05:16] <giiker> Night_shade: you are having trouble identifying the device to boot from, then?
[05:16] <Night_shade> anyway I can't seem to find System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media
[05:16] <speedrunnerG55> irc spam is the worst
[05:16] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: Please use my entire handle or I will miss your questions (just type prag followed by tab which should autocomplete)
[05:16] <speedrunnerG55> i remember whaen irc was spamless
[05:16] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: I'm not family with using NDIS wrapper, I have always stopped short of going that route in favor of cards that are natively supported in linux
[05:17] <siddsya> hi evry1
[05:17] <pragmaticenigma> !offtopic | speedrunnerG55
[05:17] <giiker> speedrunnerG55: that might evenbe more than spam
[05:17] <siddsya> can anyone tell me how to add chat acc to ubuntu's in built chat
[05:18] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, so should i not use NDIS wrapper? maybe uninstall the .inf driver?
[05:18] <pragmaticenigma> You might have to uninstall the INF driver to get the other utility to recognize the card
[05:18] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, okay ill give it  a shot!
[05:18] <speedrunnerG55> ok, how would i configure a remote desktop with a windows computer if i had to
[05:18] <superbob> would someone be willing to help me get internal audio working on my laptop?  it works via headphones or external speakers (out the audio out port), but not through the internals
[05:19] <milamber> !vnc | speedrunnerG55
[05:19] <centHOGG> superbob: when did it work last
[05:19] <chris__> hello all
[05:19] <pcuser> yo
[05:20] <chris__> I could use some advice.
[05:20] <superbob> centHOGG:  not actually sure it ever did.  I've just ignored the problem.  i do believe it works when i boot into Win7 though
[05:20] <pcuser> dont eat yellow snow
[05:20] <pcuser> :)
[05:20] <chris__> I did an update earlier today, i have 10.04, and now gnome will not load correctly but kde is fine
[05:20] <centHOGG> superbob: yeah, gotta verify the hardware... try another live cd distro
[05:21] <chris__> Im reading that many people are having this problem apparantly
[05:21] <pcuser> not load correctly how
[05:21] <superbob> centHOGG:  Win7 doesn't count?
[05:21] <jrmcm> y was dog removed in maveric?
[05:21] <centHOGG> superbob: k, pm me if you want help
[05:21] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2 still around?
[05:21] <wirrr> i did the update today and there is no driver for the wireless adapter
[05:21] <pragmaticenigma> centHOGG: questions and support should be kept to the room so others can benefit from solutions
[05:21] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: hi
[05:22] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, ok all booted up in ubuntu, but!
[05:22] <taco_the_paco> in gparted, i cannot unmount the 200 GB partition as its mounted as /host
[05:22] <milamber> !gparted
[05:22] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yeah you should have installed wubi to your C: drive
[05:23] <taco_the_paco> my windows drive is Y:\
[05:23] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: you can't partition the drive that you're booted from - or Y: then
[05:23] <jrmcm> Is there an equivelent to the package dog in maveric?
[05:23] <taco_the_paco> mm
[05:24] <taco_the_paco> so basically im stick with this 30 GB partition / windows? gr
[05:24] <chris__> anyone else having trouble with gnome?
[05:24] <taco_the_paco> oh well
[05:24] <jrmcm> taco: boot from a live cd then use gparted.
[05:24] <mrdeb> what programs do you recommend
[05:24] <mrdeb> for burning
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> jrmcm, no cd or usb
[05:25] <narcoblix> excuse me, but may I aska question
[05:25] <narcoblix> ?
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> or else i would of just got rid of windows tbqh
[05:25] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: wubi installs to a file within the host partition. If you are just planning on migrating you can make it 4 GB. And it is deleted when you uninstall
[05:25] <pcuser> gnome how?
[05:25] <jrmcm> taco: can you burn one from an iso
[05:25] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | narcoblix
[05:25] <taco_the_paco> jrmcm, nope
[05:26] <jrmcm> taco:nm then
[05:26] <milamber> !burning | mrdeb
[05:26] <narcoblix> I have a file that is not deletable. Sudo doesn't work. It doesn't deny permissions, it just does nothing
[05:26] <taco_the_paco> meh, i'll just use the 200 GB partition for storing files :)
[05:27] <milamber> !details | narcoblix
[05:27] <jasonwryan> narcoblix: rm -rf doesn't work?
[05:27] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: what is the name of the file? where is the file located?
[05:27] <Xxjoker21xX> dose anyone know the best port to run vuze with
[05:27] <chris__> When I log into gnome, I get the desktop but when I click on anything the HD light goes on and  never shuts off and gnome locks up, has started since I updated this morning. Anyone know a fix or have information about this?
[05:27] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: I don't understand the problem. What does it matter which 'drive' you install to. It makes no difference to Wubi or windows
[05:28] <centHOGG> chris__: filecheck fsck
[05:28] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, don't i have to format the 200 GB partition to ext4?
[05:28] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: Have you tried running another update from the command line?
[05:29] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: to do a proper partition install yes
[05:29] <Xxjoker21xX> you can use as mutch of the drive as you want
[05:29] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: wubi just uses a virtual disk - a file under the windows host file system'
[05:29] <narcoblix> the file is located in /home/narcoblix/MCserver/plugins/iConomy/minecraft.lock.db
[05:29] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma, no joy. still not seeing any wifi.
[05:29] <narcoblix> sudo rm -rf doesn't work
[05:29] <taco_the_paco> bcbc2, oh so i could still go ahead and follow those instructions and they should work fine?
[05:29] <jasonwryan> any error?
[05:29] <narcoblix> non at all
[05:30] <narcoblix> it acts as thought the file were deleted, but the file is still there
[05:30] <pragmaticenigma> Dionysus2m: sorry to hear that, I'm out of ideas unfortunatly
[05:30] <bcbc2> taco_the_paco: yes. just bear in mind that if you format the whole 200gb as ext4 then windows won't be able to see your the files (easily)
[05:30] <chris__> pragmaticenigma I ran update with KDE
[05:30] <jasonwryan> narcoblix: still there when you ls - or in Nautilus?
[05:30] <taco_the_paco> ok :)
[05:30] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: what is the name of the file?
[05:30] <Dionysus2m> pragmaticenigma: thanks for your help anyhow!
[05:31] <narcoblix> the file is located in /home/narcoblix/MCserver/plugins/iConomy/
[05:31] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: try running "sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in the command line to make sure there isn't a missing package somewhere
[05:31] <milamber> narcoblix: are you running minecraft? and are you using "locate" to find it?
[05:31] <chris__> pragmatic ill try that now
[05:32] <mrdeb> do ou reommend libreofficeor gnumeric
[05:32] <pragmaticenigma> narcoblix: The file could be in use by a program and being regenerated as soon as you delete it
[05:32] <Israfel> I'm using my Ubuntu laptop to backup a friends user data from Windows, but every time I try to copy his user data it fails. (I tried compressing to a .tar, but it took 2.7G of data and blew it up to 37G)
[05:32] <red2kic> narcoblix: mlocate/slocate/locate use the database. It does not actively check the system for current files.
[05:32] <Israfel> I think it may be because of symbolic links, how to I copy just valid data?
[05:33] <pragmaticenigma> Israfel: there is a way to copy without following symbolic links... try "man cp" in the command line for more help
[05:34] <narcoblix> after using htop to search through proccesses, I found the the minecraft server was still running
[05:34] <narcoblix> regenerating the file
[05:34] <narcoblix> upon killing the process, I was able to delete the file
[05:34] <narcoblix> thank you for your help
[05:34] <pragmaticenigma> your welcome narcoblix
[05:35] <chris__> pragmatic if I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will that kick me to 10.10? Im in 10.04 now
[05:35] <milamber> Israfel: http://www.technologyquestions.com/technology/linux/36122-cp-command-without-symbolic-links.html
[05:35] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: No, there is a special flag for that
[05:36] <chris__> prag I ran it, nothing upgraded, nothing installed
[05:36] <pragmaticenigma> chris__: "upgrade" usually only applies security patches where "dist-upgrade" will apply program updates
[05:37] <Israfel> Thanks pragmaticenigma and milamber. I'll try those, I was more curious if that could be what's causing my problem. I was guessing at the issue.
[05:37] <milamber> Israfel: you would have to provide more detail. how are you copying the files to your laptop?
[05:38] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: I think he is just using the GUI to click and drap or just the cp command in the CLI
[05:38] <milamber> Israfel: what is the command you are using, how long does it run?
[05:38] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: ahh, i thought he was copying data from a friend's computer to his laptop
[05:39] <MrFricks> mrdeb: gnumeric is just a spreadsheet app  libraoffice is a full office suite including a spreadsheet app
[05:39] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: the problem he is running into is that Microsoft started adding symbolic links to their file system for backwards compatibility... some of those links create loops if followed by the CP tool
[05:40] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: well then -d will dereference and -L will create real objects, -r for subdirectories :)
[05:41] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, I think giving him a link to the man page for cp will help him in the right direction
[05:41] <pragmaticenigma> milamber: He really should just be copying the user directory only
[05:42] <milamber> pragmaticenigma: which is why i/we ask exactly what commands are being used. it's up to him now :)
[05:43] <pragmaticenigma> yep
[05:45] <giiker> when running system monitor, what exactly means for a process to be on a Sleeping state?
[05:45] <giiker> running in the background?
[05:47] <j5> hi, is there any way to expand my ubuntu partition by expanding to the to previous sectors of unused space?
[05:47] <j5> as opposed to sectors after
[05:48] <milamber> giiker: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/114341
[05:49] <milamber> giiker: closer to sleeping than running in the background
[05:49] <Guest35537> no body
[05:51] <milamber> !gparted | j5
[05:52] <chris__> pragmatic I looked on the net, apparantly lots of people are having gnome trouble after last update, possibly from a failed to complete file update, what command line command would check and fix that?
[05:53] <Evanescence> how to install remastersys under ubuntu-Lucid ? add source or PPA , or deb package ? if you know, please give me an solution . Thanks
[05:53] <centHOGG> man i never update the de... just for that reason
[05:53] <jrmcm> Is there a equivelent package to dog in maveric?
[05:54] <milamber> Evanescence: http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html
[05:54] <administrator__> so, what's that
[05:55] <milamber> jrmcm: is cat missing a feature you need?
[05:56] <jrmcm> milamber: cant canontate webpages
[05:56] <l1nuxman> anyone know why sendmail doesn't use the system time for its sent time ?
[05:57] <Asgina> Hello
[05:57] <ERROR2> so how about that 3DS, ehh?
[05:57] <juss> Hello Everybody , I am not able to install Tally ERP9 in ubuntu 10.10  anybody have idea how to do it correctly with wine'
[05:58] <Evanescence> milamber: yeah, I have added it, but there is an Unmet dependence for remastersys, http://pastebin.com/bzr1jxHx
[05:58] <giiker> milamber: thanx
[05:58] <ex0a> juss: have you checked winehq?
[05:58] <jeffrey4l> my friend has one 3ds, I play with it and I think it is very cool.
[05:59] <ERR0R> I AM 3RR0R; FEAR ME AND MY USE OF LEET SPEAK, FUCKER!
[05:59] <juss> yes... wine is working perfect tally installed but running very slow
[05:59] <bazhang> ERR0R, no cursing
[05:59] <_bugz_> anybody knows a opensource like of sharepoint?
[05:59] <Asgina> wine hq?
[06:00] <ERR0R> me0w knows what's up
[06:00] <ex0a> Asgina: winehq.org
[06:00] <bazhang> ERR0R, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[06:01] <Asgina> I know
[06:01] <lxu> when using the screen command how to i close the session (not just detach)
[06:01] <Asgina> who come from China
[06:01] <ERR0R> not me
[06:01] <bazhang> Asgina, in #ubuntu-cn
[06:01] <Loshki> l1nuxman: also ask on #sendmail
[06:01] <ERR0R> I come from computer
[06:02] <milamber> _bugz_: googlefu: http://open-tube.com/open-source-alternatives-to-microsoft-sharepoint
[06:02] <jeffrey4l> I from china~~
[06:02] <jeffrey4l> then?
[06:02] <Asgina> Me too
[06:02] <jrmcm> milamber: cat can't read web pages
[06:02] <mindcat> me too
[06:02] <Asgina> That's good
[06:03] <juss> Tally ERP9 is running very slow after install... i am not sure if its install correctly to anybody know about it
[06:03] <jeffrey4l> ahh
[06:03] <_bugz_> milamber, thanks
[06:04] <pmp6nl> I am trying to reprofile ureadahead, do I just delete the .pack files or those files plus the file simply called pack?
[06:04] <jrmcm> Is there a equivelent package to dog in maveric?
[06:04] <milamber> jrmcm: combination of wget and cat?
[06:05] <sar_> Hello Everybody, my 'software-properties-gtk' crashed, who can help me?
[06:05] <jrmcm> milamber: I dont get anything when i use wget
[06:05] <milamber> jrmcm: what command are you using?
[06:06] <sar_> sudo software-properties-gtk
[06:06] <jrmcm> wget "url"
[06:06] <sar_> error: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:18: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[06:06] <sar_>   warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
[06:08] <jrmcm> milamber: when i run it I get an empty file read.php?b=s
[06:09] <ERR0R> I ain't scared, FOO!
[06:09] <milamber> jrmcm: 1 sec
[06:09] <jrmcm> kk
[06:10] <Teltariat> Does anyone know if AppArmor, the security framework that's part of Ubuntu by default, has the ability to prevent applications from being killed, even by the root user?
[06:13] <milamber> wget -r -l 1 http://www.nameofsite.com && cd www.nameofsite.com && cat *.*
[06:13] <juss> Hello everybody my tally erp9 software running very slow after install with winehq, do anybody have idea about it... i can send installer if you want
[06:13] <milamber> jrmcm: wget -r -l 1 http://www.wikipedia.org && cd www.wikipedia.org && cat *.*
[06:14] <milamber> jrmcm: i just used wikipedia as a test
[06:14] <jonathan> Hi. I have installed ubuntu 10.10 with a lot of troubles on my imac 27. Now that I have installed the ati 4850 properly, it says that there is no display. I'm  a total noob and I have no idea how to find my display properly in command line. Any idea please?
[06:15] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: alternative of Adobe Flash Lite  , in ubuntu to create flash images?
[06:16] <jonathan> "unable to open display" how do I get my display to work ?
[06:17] <bouma> hello, can anyone help me, this computer is running ubuntu 10.04, installed from the alternate installer cd, with fulldisk encryption, 10 bad sectors have been remapped according to smart. im going to change the system part to a different drive but first i want to recover data, fsck was run automatically on boot and then the ~ was totally wiped and replaced with a 'fresh' default one.
[06:17] <ERR0R> update
[06:17] <bouma> also if i use 'du' from /home, it says ~ is 40gig but the dir itself has double dir entries,
[06:18] <bouma> and none of the entries eg Downloads, Desktop etc, have anything in them
[06:18] <bouma> how can i recover the data
[06:19] <bouma> it looks like the inodes? or at least dir entries are still there cause of the double entries? is that the old ones, and also new ones, but all i can "access" are the new
[06:19] <TerryBook> how do I set the compiler to use -fPIC when using ./configure and make?
[06:19] <bouma> can i copy the old 'files'/dirs' to a different place?
[06:19] <mali> hi there... I wish to export a bash function globally.. where does bash store the function I export as root? (or does export not persist on reboot?) If not, well then I add the function to /etc/bash.bashrc or most likely /etc/profile yes?
[06:19] <bouma> how to recover! also using full disk encryption from the alternate cd installer
[06:19] <mali> there is not man entry for export in natty so I am asking here :)
[06:20] <BestKeptSecret> is there a way to use grep to make output print the start of the matching case to a certain matching case??
[06:20] <mali> bouma, the process of recovering encrypted home dirs AND moving [home] dirs in general is in the wiki's just in case you didn'tknow
[06:20] <mali> so both are fine ye
[06:20] <mali> s
[06:21] <mali> BestKeptSecret: yes with cut or sed or so
[06:21] <bouma> mali: also by default will fsck let me check without doing any changes, ie completely readonly on a mounted / ?
[06:21] <bouma> mali: ok i've been googling and havnt found anything yet. but i will look thanks
[06:21] <mali> you mean like ls somedir | grep donkey | only list don say?
[06:22] <improveupon> this should be an easy question... i updated the 10.04 kernel and now NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, and nm-tool lists only the wired nic, but the package manager says the bcmwl package is installed
[06:22] <mali> you can specify readonly, or rather from livecd, mount a partition in read only mode
[06:22] <bouma> mali: im reading man fsck, and googling but havnt found a specific guide for this problem yet
[06:22] <mali> than you don't need to worry.. do a man fsck
[06:22] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:22] <bouma> mali: does fsck actually consider the 'mount' or just work on the device directly, under the mounting layer ?
[06:23] <bouma> mali: there is fsck -N but i dont know if that just does nothing rather than a readonly check
[06:23] <ruan> help. i tried to change my resolution and nvidia x server didnt revert after 30 seconds
[06:23] <mali> I really don't know.. I don't use linux for a good while bouma
[06:24] <mali> hi there... I wish to export a bash function globally.. where does bash store the function I export as root? (or does export not persist on reboot?) If not, then I add the function to  /etc/profile?
[06:24] <bouma> mali: also why did the automatic fsck do something without permission, it shouldnt be automatic but it was, also it rebooted right at the end of the fsck i remember. the on the next boot it came up with the 'fresh' desktop with a pristine empty home
[06:25] <ruan> no one? fine, i'll reboot
[06:25] <jrmcm> milamber: what are the "&&" for?
[06:25] <mali> jrmcm: && is a lazy AND operator.. that means
[06:25] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:25] <improveupon> if NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, might my wireless network driver need to be manually loaded into the new kernel version or something?
[06:26] <bouma> btw, can anyone recommend a distro that has the best integration with the linux amd catalyst drivers, cause i have trouble using ubuntu 10.04 with them, the control center refuses to run and although i've used the ppa, it doesnt seem to actually be accelerated
[06:26] <jonathan> What do you add at the end of your command line to see everything. Like I put lspci and it just goes all the way down. How do we slow that already?
[06:26] <mali> if you do say: action1 && action 2, then action 2 will never be executed if action 1 fails as opposed to action1 & action2 which is a 'strict operator' aka if action1 fails it still will check if action2 will execute (which it won't )
[06:26] <mali> a strict AND operator is kinda useless hehe in most practical terms
[06:27] <mali> jonathan:  lspci | less
[06:27] <mali> or lspci | more
[06:27] <mali> ;p
[06:27] <jonathan> tyvm
[06:27] <jonathan> and how do we do that vertical line
[06:27] <jonathan> (total noob i know ;p)
[06:27] <mali> on an US layout keyboard or what
[06:27] <improveupon> it's above the backslash
[06:27] <improveupon> shift + backslash
[06:27] <mali> depend son your keyboard but if standard US, then shift + key above enter
[06:27] <jonathan> thanks !
[06:28] <Bawn> how can I connect 2 computers together to create a computer that uses both cpus
[06:28] <tarsha> If i am running ubuntu x64 can i run windows xp x32 in VMware?
[06:28] <bouma> im using ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates lucid, but its not great, does anyone have an old amd card with 10.04 and get hardware video accel, which is my #1 need
[06:28] <mali> Bawn, use a string and attach it to both cpu's with tape!
[06:28] <mali> tarsha: yes
[06:28] <Bawn> in this economy, tape is a bit too pricey
[06:28] <tarsha> thanks
[06:29] <tarsha> anyone wanna reccomend a bittorent client besides transmission?
[06:29] <improveupon> i know someone knows this. i updated the 10.04 kernel and now NetworkManager does not list wireless connections, and nm-tool does not see the wlan0
[06:30] <improveupon> but synaptic says the drivers are installed
[06:30] <Bawn> ktorrent tarsha
[06:30] <jrmcm> tarsha: vuze
[06:30] <tarsha> thanks
[06:30] <shcherbak> Bawn: You think of cluster, not to much to do, and there are very good how to's for Debian
[06:30] <BestKeptSecret> when using shell commands, are the '-' arguments & '--' to be used together or alternatives to each other?
[06:30] <Bawn> tarsha vuze and ktorrent are superior
[06:30] <l1nuxman> can someone help me set correct time so that my sendmail email will show the correct system date? I read that maybe I need to configure rsyslogd ?
[06:30] <Bawn> okay shcherbak
[06:31] <shcherbak> tarsha: Delige, or rtorrent (no gui)
[06:31] <shcherbak> *Deluge*
[06:31] <p1und3r> does anyone else have problems running 3d games in the new unity ui
[06:31] <Bawn> How do i remove nvidia drivers from the command line?
[06:31] <tarsha> Think I will try Vuze.
[06:31] <jrmcm> later
[06:31] <Bawn> i like the peer maps that vuze has
[06:32] <shcherbak> Bawn: I think it is jockey-text
[06:32] <Bawn> heh?
[06:33] <shcherbak> Bawn: to remove driver (jockey is application responsible for nonfree driver)
[06:33] <Bawn> okey
[06:33] <Bawn> how do i change the address that apt-get gets its data from via command line
[06:34] <shcherbak> Bawn: Do you mean sources?
[06:34] <Bawn> yeah
[06:34] <tarsha> whats the command to install java?
[06:36] <shcherbak> Bawn: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and update (carefull, make buck up of that file first)
[06:36] <bazhang> !partner > tarsha
[06:36] <bazhang> !java | tarsha
[06:36] <shcherbak> !partner > shcherbak
[06:37] <tarsha> thanks
[06:38] <Bawn> thz shcherbak
[06:39] <recusant> !ubottu > recusant
[06:41] <unko> hey whats up guys i seem to have a problem, i accidently install ubuntu over my perfectly set up windows 7 os. i meant to install ubuntu on a seperate disk but i choose the wrong one..of couse.... so here's the question....how do i recover my whole windows partition that got formated?
[06:41] <centHOGG> n
[06:43] <pcman> hey
[06:43] <pcman> i just installed julinux
[06:43] <unko> can any one help me out one that? PLEASE!
[06:43] <pcman> my windows 7 has gone
[06:43] <pcman> how do i get it back
[06:43] <unko> yea... thats is
[06:43] <unko> it
[06:44] <pcman> really
[06:44] <pcman> you mean windows 7 is gone
[06:44] <unko> yes really i want to duel boot linux and windows but... now im stuck with linux
[06:44] <unko> and i lost all my dam files!!!
[06:44] <pcman> same as me
[06:44] <pcman> 'how come
[06:45] <pcman> yeh same as me
[06:45] <chipmink> there is a file named btmp that crashes my log viewer everytime i start it is there a way to erase this file?
[06:45] <pcman> all the pics
[06:45] <unko> so... can anyone gemme some advice for this?
[06:45] <pcman> julinux is nice to use
[06:45] <unko> any software i can use to restore a fomated windows back to normal
[06:46] <pcman> i have the same problem
[06:46] <unko> ^ annoying
[06:46] <pcman> yeh
[06:46] <unko> thanks for the help pcman
[06:47] <pcman> yw unko
[06:47] <unko> k
[06:47] <chipmink> how do i erase a file that has root permissions
[06:47] <pcman> it sucks i like the julinux system but i lost my windows 7
[06:47] <pcman> got something to do with windows loader
[06:47] <unko> the amount of sarcasm coming from you is killing me
[06:48] <pcman> who
[06:48] <pcman> bye all
[06:49] <unko> you pcman
[06:50] <wacheng> 中文
[06:50] <bazhang> !cn | wacheng
[06:50] <chipmink> there is a file named btmp that crashes my log viewer everytime i start it Is there a way to erase this file?
[06:52] <chipmink> is var/log a hidden directory
[06:52] <ojal> Good night. 10:10 I have installed Ubuntu on my notebook and installed KDE as KNetworkManager not manage wireless, I installed Wicd, but can not connect to Wireless with him. Does anyone know what might be happening?
[06:52] <nyuszika7h> Out of curiousity, I tried to start FreeDOS, and it said 'Starting Windows'... :P So it can't be FreeDOS... ;)
[06:53] <YankDownUnder> chipmink, You have to have permission to view things in the /var/log directory -> that might be the issue...I just looked at my /var/log/btmp and it's empty...
[06:53] <unko> so does anyone know how i can restore my windows 7 partition after being formated?
[06:54] <centHOGG> dude n
[06:54] <chipmink> i copied the file to desktop
[06:54] <YankDownUnder> unko, Um...formatted?
[06:54] <chipmink> then looked at it
[06:54] <unko> yea formatted
[06:54] <chipmink> has user name
[06:54] <nyuszika7h> Is it possible to specify a custrom resolution for GRUB? StartUp-Manager only offers a list, but neither one matches my resolution.
[06:54] <nyuszika7h> s/custrom/custom/
[06:55] <YankDownUnder> unko, Mate, that's a job and a half...w00t...you COULD look into getting like Hirens liveCD - it's got some forensic stuff on it for recovering partitions and stuff that's "been formatted"...
[06:55] <centHOGG> sure
[06:55] <unko> YankDownUnder,  yea but do you know if it will restore a whole windows OS back to a working state?
[06:56] <bcbc2> unko: formatted... you can use testdisk. But if you've formatted and installed ubuntu that's probably not going to work. You can use photorec to try and recover your data. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[06:56] <unko> YankDownUnder,  don't get me wrong i love ubuntu i use it alot and i know my way around it. but i just installed it on the wrong disk
[06:56] <recusant> or more likely, reinstall windows
[06:56] <YankDownUnder> unko, I have no idea mate - I've had 50/50 luck in doing things like that - however, in some instances I've been able to recover important files for clients...
[06:56] <nyuszika7h> Nobody can answer my question?
[06:56] <centHOGG> reinstall