 how would you make a custimisable boot load for for both 8 16 32 64 bit mode os
[01:42] <bazhang> 8bit spacemacs!
[02:08] <hggdh> and... greiogio is back.
[02:08]  * hggdh grabs some popcorn
[09:54] <bazhang> I think we need a 'veruca salt' factoid
[09:54] <bazhang> I want it NOW
[09:56] <bazhang> does ubuntu even have a kernel approaching that one
[09:57] <ikonia> zfs is an interesting on now
[09:57] <bazhang> I mean the 4.8
[09:58] <ikonia> oh
[09:59] <bazhang>  Version <IP_ADDRESS>.41 for yeakkety
[09:59] <bazhang> I mean yakkety
[10:02] <ikonia> he's trying to build zfs into it
[10:03] <ikonia> and I suspect it's not the ubuntu build, but the stock one from kernel.org
[10:21] <bazhang> very custom then
[10:37] <bazhang> is xubuntu three or five years for the lts support
[10:37] <ikonia> same as "core"
[10:37] <bazhang> five then
[10:37] <ikonia> its the same repo so the repos will be the same, 5 on server 3 on desktop, but I'm still not sure how that will ever work
[10:37] <ikonia> as how can you not support the desktop packages in the same repo
[10:38] <bazhang> good point
[21:56] <jay__> Hey, somebody named thetrail is trolling #ubuntu.


[00:49] <Fleck> help, radeon Xpress 1250
[00:49] <Fleck> laptop
[00:50] <Fleck> when i run glxgears i get segfault
[00:50] <Fleck> radeonhd told in log that unknown card
[01:00] <leif> I have a bug. I use Konsole with fish and whenever I want to complete a like "aptitude install fire" it says "set: Could not add component /usr/local/bin to PATH"
[01:15] <jmichaelx> Fleck: are in in 10.04?
[01:23] <James147> james
[01:26] <leif> I "fixed" the fish bug btw. Just create the directory and fish won't complain anymore.
[01:47] <ldskfj> Anyone know about the difference between the default .bashrc for KU & Ubuntu?  I'm on a lab computer, first time using Ub after years of KU, & the .bashrc looks very incomplete, like missing aliases & setup for color prompt. Also see my next msg here, just sent to the Ub irc.
[01:47] <ldskfj> Ubuntu .bashrc as complete as KUbuntu's?: - Am I not seeing something important?  the Ubuntu's system .bashrc is no where near as complete as the KUbuntu system: ex, 2 specifics: 1) aliases, 2) prompt colors.   -  Is there a more complete set of settings available to easily be installed/added/usedWith the Ubuntu system?  Where & how can I get that, for adding into my Ubuntu system?
[03:25] <v3n0m> hey
[03:26] <v3n0m> anyonw here?
[03:27] <yofel> yes, half asleep though
[03:27] <darkdelusions> it depends on what you mean by here
[03:28] <v3n0m> lol
[03:28] <v3n0m> i  just installed backtrack 4
[03:28] <v3n0m> i got hacked before
[03:28] <v3n0m> so i want revenge lol
[03:29] <v3n0m> windows has to many viruses and trojans, and can be easliy exploited
[03:46] <jako> Wenas Como estan todos ?
[03:54] <darkdelusions> !! spanish
[04:36] <k-man_> anyone alive?
[04:37] <darkdelusions> Kinda
[05:01] <falken_> hello
[05:24] <jaikumar_> is there any water mark tool for video?
[05:39] <jaikumar_> Please any one tell some video editing tool for ubuntu.
[06:12] <apple_cat> Hi, I'm trying to get my laptop's touchpad working by enabling shmconfig in xorg.conf. If I create an xorg.conf file with just the option I need the computer will not boot. How can I generate a working xorg.conf and then enable the option I want?
[06:49] <StrongOrder> Hello guys! I've seen a screenshot of the latest kde where the whole window chrome is blurred, not just title bars. How can I do that? I have 4.5.1
[07:44] <navetz> hi I have an hp envy and want the ati drivers for my video card on linux, where can I find them?
[08:25] <15SAAURWS> Toolmans tip of the day:  learn the command line.  The most important commant is "man".   for example, at the command line type "man ls"  and you will look at the "manual" for the "ls"  command - that is, the documentation of the command.
[08:33] <MathKubuntu> Bonjour tout le monde !
[08:34] <maco> !fr
[08:35] <hrw|n900> hi
[08:36] <hrw|n900> does someone know how to force kde network-manager to see dun or usb modem and use it instead of ethernet?
[09:32] <datune> After installing kubuntu, which of course is unable to even access the internet, since it fails to recognize my Belkin Wireless Stick, I can't access my Win7 installation, even though grub lists it. After hitting e, this is what displayed: http://pastebin.com/c3XiU15p I am assuming here that Win7 is unable to boot since Kubuntu installed Grub, thus removing BootMGR? I don't know what I can do, anybody perhaps has some pointers?
[09:41] <kenso> hola??
[09:42] <kenso> hay alguien??
[09:43] <darkdelusions> !! spanish
[09:44] <anygivenname> can anyone help me with edit command for android terminal emulator ?
[09:44] <datune> Please, is there nobody who can give me any pointers as to how I can access my Win7 installation again? All that happens now when I select the grub entry to boot, is a instant restart
[09:44] <darkdelusions> datune that I wish I could help you on but I havent dual booted in ages
[09:45] <kenso> thank
[09:46] <datune> darkdelusions: Thank you, well, I can't dual boot eit her.  I will try it
[09:55] <darkdelusions> I would try the second link first
[09:55] <anygivenname> can anyone help me with edit command for android terminal emulator ?
[09:58] <darkdelusions> anygivenname:  I would ask in #android
[09:58] <datune> darkdelusions: Will do, I am booting into Kubuntu as I type. I really hope I can get it back to work.
[09:58] <darkdelusions> datune: it look like you may just have to edit grub
[10:00] <anygivenname> channel is not opening
[10:00] <anygivenname> says you need to be identified with services
[10:00] <anygivenname> dunno what that is
[10:05] <datune> When I run "sudo apt-get testdisk" I get "E: Invalid operation testdisk"...
[10:06] <darkdelusions> Try my second link first
[10:06] <darkdelusions> datune: but it would be sudo apt-get install testdesk
[10:08] <datune> darkdelusions: Of course, but I realized it doesn't matter, since apt-get will not work for me, because Kubuntu is unable to access the internet. It fails to recognize my wireless stick, and I have no cable available (boy, at work I use 13 Ubuntu Servers, and I am very happy, but I am so dissapointed with the desktop experience thus far...)
[10:09] <darkdelusions> datune: for the desktop edition it kinda hardware depentant
[10:09] <darkdelusions> datune: when i say that some hardware is buggier then others
[10:10] <darkdelusions> datune: when i would install 9.04 it would take me 2 hours to get everythign working correctly
[10:10] <darkdelusions> from jack sensing -> the stupid light senor on my asus laptop
[10:11] <datune> darkdelusions: It seems so, first of all Wubi does not work from WIndows7, let alone booting from a USB Stick, it fails to recognize a 2 year old Belkin Wireless Stick, and it is unable to handle my 2 Screens decently, it recognizes both screens, but no matter what settings I change, it only activates one screen, even though both are listed as active in kubuntu...
[10:13] <darkdelusions> For you belkin stick I would good to see if anyone has got it working under ubuntu... if Yes look for a how to... If not see if it works under ndis wrapper
[10:13] <darkdelusions> datune: for the dual monitor issue if I recall i had to do something special to get mine working
[10:13] <darkdelusions> If its an nvida chipset use the nvida control panel
[10:13] <darkdelusions> instead of kubuntu
[10:14] <datune> darkdelusions: I figured as much, but this is the year 2010, it's kind of pathetic that I have to do something special to work with 2 screens, with a $400 graphics card....
[10:14] <darkdelusions> datune: its not really something special persay
[10:14] <darkdelusions> i can't remember what I did to fix mine
[10:15] <darkdelusions> datune: are you using an nvidia card
[10:15] <datune> darkdelusions: No, it's a ATI card
[10:16] <darkdelusions> that gets tricky :)
[10:16] <darkdelusions> I would just suggest taking that card and putting it down :)
[10:16] <darkdelusions> <= is not a fan of ati :)
[10:17] <darkdelusions> I mean this computer that ubuntu is running on has a gf 6 on board video card and I spent most of tuesday trying to just let me #$#%#@ install ubuntu :)
[10:18] <darkdelusions> :)
[10:36] <datune> darkdelusions: Just so you know, I downloaded testdisk, but that did not solve it either, so now I am downloading a Win7 Repair ISO, and hopefully this will allow me to boot back to Win7.
[10:37] <datune> Of course, my netbook has no cd slot, so I hope Kubuntu is able to burn an iso image...
[10:42] <datune> darkdelusions: omg, I copy the iso file from my Win7 netbook to my usb stick, plug the usb stick into the kubuntu machine, and the iso is not there, plug it back into my netbook, and what do you know, the iso is gone! Wow, Kubuntu deserves a huge post over on thedailywtf ...
[10:44] <sresu> Dolphin file manager not displaying details if existing and source file matches while copying files. Details in terms of file size, length etc.. What should I do?
[10:48] <sresu> Anyone?
[10:51] <sresu> IS there a way to restore system?
[10:55] <datune> darkdelusions: Post #8, specifically using Windows Repair CD resolved my issues. Thanks so much for your help, it's really appreciated! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469763
[10:56] <sresu> Anyone?
[12:17] <BajK> whbat are the prequisities for nstalling kubuntu on an usb stick?
[12:47] <BajK> Anything I have to care for when installing it on an external usb hard drive (not usb stick, it is too small)
[12:49] <n8w> do u guys know whether the ext3/ext2 fs uses 32bit signed or unsigned integers?
[12:53] <n8w> .
[13:01] <vbgunz> I have some weird anomalies on my oxygen titlebars in KDE 4.5.1 using nvidia drivers. my title bars are black but sometimes the titlebar looks like it didn't finish painting, or hovering over buttons causes the button to have a gray square behind it... anybody know whats up here?
[13:11] <James147> vbgunz: not seeing that here, on kde 4.5.1 with nvidia as well ...
[13:12] <James147> vbgunz: could be a problem with the theme, try a new user see if they have the same problem
[13:13] <vbgunz> James147: it's weird. it doesn't happen all the time. it happens rarely but when it does, very noticeable
[13:14] <James147> vbgunz: had a similar problem with the bespin theme once... didnt figure out what it was, I assumed it was bespin :S  ...
[13:15] <James147> vbgunz: I would try a new user, and possibly other themes as well
[13:20] <vbgunz> James147: good idea, I like oxygen though, it's modern and just looks good. I don't notice anything else wrong with the theme just the titlebars acting funny sometimes
[13:21] <James147> vbgunz: yeah, but it should hopefully tell you if its just oxygen of something else causing the problems
[13:33] <lucidfox> Any idea why VLC doesn't pick up system font settings?
[13:33] <lucidfox> it defaults to DejaVu Sans
[13:33] <lucidfox> I looked at qtconfig-qt4, and it has the same fonts set as the KDE configuration applet
[13:34] <Tm_T> lucidfox: it's UI uses wrong font?
[13:34] <lucidfox> yes, I get the same font in both Qt and GTK applications with QtCurve, but not in VLC
[13:35] <lucidfox> oh, wait
[13:35] <lucidfox> I found the reason
[13:36] <lucidfox> VLC was set to use the GTK Qt style, not QtCurve
[13:39] <matthiasb> Hi, I'm trying to recover data from an old hard disk that refuses to work. Does anyone know an appropriate channel? (Since googling didn't help much)
[13:39] <Tm_T> lucidfox: ah, nice
[13:39] <lucidfox> and for some reason it remembered that setting even after I wiped the configuration file, until I changed it manually o_O
[13:49] <matthiasb> I'm a bit stuck here, i have to rescue some data even though i told the users a million times that they have to back up their non profile data on their own.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:36] <smooph> Hi I have a question regarding the installation of a graphical program on a server ... I want to run kontact in an remote xsession ... what do I need (minimal installation to have kontact runnin?)
[15:44] <BluesKaj> smooph, ssh server and client , and then you could try start kontact with ssh kontact& command once your ssh'd into the remote pc
[15:44] <James147> (assuming you have enalbed xforwarding)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> smooph, let me rephrase that more clearly install both openssh server and client , and then you could try to start kontact with the command 'ssh kontact&'  once you're ssh'd into the remote pc
[15:49] <smooph> BluesKaj: James147 thats not really my question I know that ... problem is the "server" which only runs in console and this should stay that way but installing kontact requests all that kde rubish to be installed
[15:50] <James147> smooph: kontact will need the kde librarys no matter what
[15:51] <BluesKaj> I run a server with kde libs ..it's really very handy
[15:51] <smooph> I agree with some libs like kdepim and so on but it shouldn't need the whole desktop environment like games and kate ... and so on and so on
[15:51] <James147> smooph: it shouldent pull in the games...
[15:51] <smooph> it does some
[15:51] <BluesKaj> smooph, how big is the server hdd?
[15:51] <smooph> room is not the problem
[15:52] <smooph> its more a I don't want to
[15:52] <BluesKaj> then what is ?
[15:52] <James147> smooph: you could try instaling it without recommends
[15:52] <smooph> so you installed everything and than set start kdm default to 0 ?
[15:53] <James147> smooph: dident think ou would need kdm :S
[15:53] <James147> smooph: try using the --no-install-recommends flash in apt-get when you install it, see if that reduces the number of packages it needs
[15:54] <James147> s/flash/flag/  :p
[15:54] <BluesKaj> bah humbug,  you've created a problem for yourself , otherwise it wouldn't exist, smooph
[15:56] <israfil> hello
[15:56] <James147> !hi | israfil
[15:57] <James147> ... :S
[15:57] <israfil> i installed KDevelop 4.0.0 and 4.0.1 (or was ist 4.0.2?) on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx but i think the debugger is not working already. Am i right? What program could i use instead?
[16:01] <avihay> israfil: though it's crude, ugly, and kinda hard to operate, I find ddd as a decent standalone debugger.  you can use code::blocks or eclipse IDEs. they both have built in debuggers (they all actually use GDB)
[16:03] <James147> israfil: you might want to try asking on #kdevelop  they will know more about its debugger :)
[16:04] <James147> israfil: you could also try qt creator :)
[16:05] <avihay> eclipse's debugger (or GDB integration )is the best I've seen in Linux, but then again, it's java software, so better have a powerful machine
[16:05] <dono> looow
[16:07] <James147> avihay: I prefure qt creator over eclipse, though I dont tend to use the debugger that often :)
[16:07] <James147> still think its as good as eclipse for debugging
[16:09] <avihay> James147:  I never tried qt creator. it's name suggested that it's a GUI designer, and I got fed up with trying so many horrible IDEs, and am now sticking to good ol'e Kate.
[16:10] <James147> avihay: qt creator is a very nice ide, i suggest you try it, but I know what you eman about too many horrible ide about :p
[16:10]  * avihay wonders what would have happened if he was a VI user ...
[16:10] <James147> qt creator is about the most polished one i have seen
[16:11] <James147> avihay: :D qt creator also as a fake vim mode which is good for simple vim commands, although lacks the support for more complcated stuff
[16:11] <James147> but you can change the external editor to vim and let it launch that when you want more complcated vim commands :)
[16:12] <avihay> ummmmmm,                                                                     no.               thanks.                       :->
[16:12] <James147> d
[16:12] <James147> :D
[16:31] <dasKreech> Kate has a vi mode. not sure what it's llke
[16:33] <James147> dasKreech: a little different from qt creatos, stll not entirly there but I think it has better support for more stuff
[16:33] <James147> actual vi is still the best atm
[16:33] <dasKreech> Better support for more stuff ^_^
[16:33] <James147> ^^
[16:33] <dasKreech> That's a marketing phrase if I ever heard one
[16:33] <James147> dasKreech: :d
[16:34]  * dasKreech sits under his emacs banner
[16:34] <James147> dasKreech: but marketing what?
[16:35] <dasKreech> James147: I don't think the marketers care. as long as they have to convince someone to adopt .. well whatever it is
[16:52] <Riddell> ** 10 minutes until Harald talks about Qt unicorn sparkles, 1 hour 10 mins until steveire talks about "Using Grantlee to create application themes", in #ubuntu-classroom
[17:01] <Qwert> James147: How can I convert text to .wav or any other audio file format?
[17:01] <James147> Qwert: text? you mean text to speech?
[17:01] <Qwert> James147: Yes
[17:02] <Qwert> James147: .txt to .wav
[17:03] <James147> Qwert: kde has jovie, its text to speech software, although I time I tried it it didnt work teribally well and took servral attpemts at starting and stopping speech-dispatcher (its backend) to get it to work
[17:03] <James147> but I can save the generated audio file if I remember correctly
[17:03] <James147> Qwert: was going to try it again o maverick see if it improved at all
[17:03] <Qwert> You see Okular got one option to speak the text of the page/document. Same I was thinking to have the generated audio saved
[17:04] <Qwert> Well, then should I try out jovie?
[17:04] <James147> Qwert: Okular uses jovie, and jovie can already do that
[17:04] <Qwert> Ah-ok
[17:04] <James147> Qwert: you can try it
[17:04] <James147> Qwert: just it might not work out the box :0
[17:04] <James147> (at elast its called jovie on kde 4.5)
[17:05] <James147> was kttsd before 4.5 I think, but you will want to grab the latest version to have best luck at it :)
[17:06] <Qwert> I searched the package for jovie, James147. Its not there. I've kttsd already installed
[17:06] <James147> Qwert: are you on kde 4.4.2?
[17:07] <Qwert> James147: Platform Version 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)
[17:07] <James147> Qwert: yeah, then kttsd then :0
[17:07] <James147> :)
[17:08] <Qwert> James147: I've it installed already. What should I be doing now?
[17:08] <James147> Qwert: run kttsmgr I think
[17:09] <Qwert> James147: Umm... That will only 'speak' the text :)
[17:10] <James147> Qwert: can it not save the audio file?
[17:10]  * James147 reinstalls jovie to see its options
[17:10] <Qwert> James147: I've never encountered those options
[17:10] <James147> hmm, cant see them either... must ahve been on a very old version then
[17:11] <Qwert> James147: While trying to find solution, I even read about festival somewhere
[17:12] <James147> festival is a speech synsasizer (or how ever you sepll that work :p )  kttsd use to use it as the backend
[17:12] <Qwert> James147: If I can get text2wav like package, then that wav can be converted to mp3
[17:12] <Qwert> Oh
[17:12] <James147> it now uses speech-dispatcher, which in turn can use festival as a backend
[17:12] <James147> (or one of many other ones)
[17:14] <Qwert> James147: Any other method coming to your mind. Or can you remeber how you saved the audio genertated?
[17:14] <James147> Qwert: just say the option once... or might have been with somethine else... it was a while ago :) nad kttsd never really worked all that well for me
[17:15] <James147> either way its jovie/kttsd where the option should be implmented, otherwise I am not sure how to do it
[17:15] <James147> at least within kde
[17:16] <Qwert> James147: What about gnome then?
[17:17] <James147> Qwert:  I dont use gome... so I wouldnt know. It is probally possible via command line though
[17:17] <Qwert> James147: Hopefully maverick comes up with something on it. Is there any package like text2wav?
[17:17] <James147> Qwert: I havent looked into it in detail so I cannot really say more then that
[17:18] <James147> Qwert: I dont think maverick will have it, its using kde 4.5 but kde 4.6 might improve on it (when it comes out)
[17:19] <Qwert> James147: Ah.. I did complete removal and installation of text to speech. I don't have any talkers now
[17:19] <Qwert> James147: I don't remeber how I added before. Could you guide me on it?
[17:21] <Qwert> James147: No problem. I'll find it out. Thanks a lot for your help :)
[17:21] <James147> Qwert: probally in the settings of kttsmrg
[17:22] <James147> mgr
[17:22] <James147> ...
[17:23] <Qwert> James147: Yeah. I'll manage it. Thanks :)
[17:25] <dasKreech> Qwert: You can redirect alsa output to a wav file
[17:43] <DexterF> hi
[17:43] <DexterF> after an upgrade http site calls are extremely slow. known issue?
[17:45] <James147> DexterF: Havent hear of that before, but it would be helpful to know what you upgraded :)
[17:47] <DexterF> James147: from 9.04 to 9.10, then to 10.04
[17:47] <DexterF> I just found this which improved Firefox' speed: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-firefox-slow-problem-in-ubuntu-10-04lucid.html
[17:48] <DexterF> alas, this is FF, but I need konq and opera, too
[17:48] <James147> DexterF: Well, first thing I would try is a new user, if they work as you expect they should then its mostlikly a problem with one of the configfiles in your home directory
[17:48] <DexterF> what's this anyway, does 10.04 have ipv6 mumbo jumbo by defautl?
[17:49] <DexterF> James147: opera was just installed and started with a fresh config. rules that out
[17:49] <James147> DexterF: might still be a problem with the kde configs.. I would test a new user to make sure
[17:56] <DexterF> James147: got it: the nic runs ipv6
[17:56] <DexterF> http://www.allquests.com/question/4157236/%5Bubuntu%5D-Opera-1060-very-slow-ubuntu-1004.html
[17:57] <DexterF> applying these changes now... should use the occasion and upgrade to grub2...
[17:57] <DexterF> !grub2
[17:57] <ozcan>  #ubuntu
[17:57] <JoePlumber> I haven't used the installer in a couple years. Anyone know if specifying existing partitions for opt and home will repartition them?
[17:58] <James147> JoePlumber: you can setup manaul patitions, they will only be wiped if you chose to formate them, if you dont formate tehm then kubuntu will delete and recreate any of its system files
[17:59]  * DexterF wonders if he'll live to see that ipv6 becomes the standard
[17:59] <James147> (ie if you only have one partition /  kubuntu will delete and recreate /usr /sys ...etc but wont touch /home   at least from what I ahve tryed, not sure about /opt)
[17:59] <JoePlumber> Ok thanks James147. The way it makes you specify a size made me worried it was going to repartition even if i left it the same
[18:00] <James147> JoePlumber: you can resize the partitions without formating them... but I would make sure you ahve backup your data either way
[18:00] <James147> JoePlumber: and I dont know what it will do to /opt havent tested taht one
[18:00] <sobczyk> something changed in Kubuntu? My fonts again changed to unusable, this time almost everywhere
[18:01] <JoePlumber> It's not the most intuitive process for sure
[18:01] <James147> JoePlumber: it warns you if you dont format and it finds files it wants to delete
[18:02] <James147> JoePlumber: not sure how they could make it more intuitive with out haveing a detailed explnation beside the installer :0
[18:02] <James147> :)
[18:03] <JoePlumber> simple: grey out the fields for partition size unless you change them
[18:03] <JoePlumber> all i want to do is tell it to use the existing partition for home and opt, but because it makes me specify a size it feels like it's going to completely repartition
[18:03] <James147> JoePlumber: but greying them out (disabling them) means your cannot resize if you want to (which wont nessorally distroy your data)
[18:04] <JoePlumber> alright well just being extra paranoid as i'd rather not have to restore that data ;)
[18:04] <James147> JoePlumber: from what I can tell of the installer it will only delete data if the format button is checked....
[18:04] <JoePlumber> thanks for your help
[18:05] <James147> JoePlumber: yeah :) but there is no simple way to make user feel less parnoid... I would always backup before hand
[18:05] <James147> JoePlumber: although that is one thing I ahve to test, resizing a /home with the installer and seeing what it does :)
[18:05] <JoePlumber> hmm :O
[18:06] <JoePlumber> another noobish question and then i'm going to blow away my existing / and install 10.10 RC
[18:06] <James147> I would think the data should remain intact, since I ahve done taht with gpatred/partitionmanager before
[18:07] <James147> JoePlumber: RC is out?
[18:07]  * James147 goes to check the news reports
[18:08] <JoePlumber> if i have an existing windows install on sdb1, do i use sdb for boot manager or sdb1?
[18:08] <James147> JoePlumber: them mbr will be on sdb I think
[18:09] <James147> JoePlumber: well, it could be on sda as well :)
[18:09] <James147> JoePlumber: But I hink its on the harddrive, not the partition
[18:09] <JoePlumber> well it gives option of each partition or hard drive.  I tend to put it on the drive that I am isntalling grub to (sdb if kubuntu is on sdbX) and changing the boot order in teh bios
[18:11] <James147> Qwert: yup
[18:11] <Qwert> James147: Do you know about any auto scroll feature in okular?
[18:11] <James147> Qwert: and just after you left: 17:25 <dasKreech> Qwert: You can redirect alsa output to a wav file
[18:11] <JoePlumber> oh single hd, just a winxp partition first and then the linux partitions
[18:12] <Qwert> dasKreech: How?
[18:12]  * James147 wonders why its sdb then....  :S
[18:12] <Qwert> James147: Thanks about that. What about okular?
[18:12] <JoePlumber> booted off a usb drive to livecd
[18:13] <James147> JoePlumber: but yeah, I would install it to /dev/sdb then, it will overwrite windows mbr, but you can restore taht from an xp recovery disk if you have one (although you dont need to if you plan on using grub)
[18:14] <JoePlumber> hmm well i'll give it a try
[18:14] <James147> JoePlumber: yeah, normally my usb get listed after the harddrives
[18:14] <JoePlumber> thanks again
[18:15] <Qwert> James147: Do yoy know how to redirect alsa o/p to wav file?
[18:17] <James147> Qwert: afraid I dont
[18:18] <Qwert> James147:No problem. Any idea about auto scroll for okular?
[18:18] <James147> Qwert: cant see a way yet...
[18:19] <Qwert> !omaque
[18:19] <Qwert> !info omaque
[18:21] <James147> Qwert: found it.. shift + up/down  to seed up/slow down
[18:23] <Qwert> James147: No, it not working here. I got Version 0.10.2. Whats your version? How did you find it?
[18:23] <James147> Qwert: found about it here :) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220781
[18:24] <James147> I have kde 4.5.1 with okilar 0.11.1
[18:24] <Qwert> James147: How is that?
[18:24] <Qwert> James147: ah.. 4.5
[18:24] <James147> Qwert: what exactly?
[18:24] <Qwert> James147: Nothing got it
[18:24] <Qwert> James147: You got 4.5 from backports?
[18:25] <Qwert> James147: I mean KDE 4,5
[18:25] <James147> Qwert: yeah, from the abckports
[18:25] <Qwert> James147: I Thanks again :)
[18:26] <Qwert> s/I/
[18:26] <Qwert> Thanks Again
[18:28] <smooph> Hi I am looking for a command to install everything from one specific repository
[18:28] <JackStoner> is there a software manager in kubuntu like the software center in ubuntu?
[18:28] <JackStoner> smooph: you want to install EVERYTHING froma a repository? why?
[18:29] <JackStoner> i guess you can add the repo and do an update/install
[18:29] <smooph> JackStoner: because I have a repository with everthing I need
[18:30] <James147> smooph: if it has everything you need then just add it along side the others... do you need to remove other repos?
[18:30] <smooph> btw I think the thing is called kpackagemanager ?
[18:31] <James147> JackStoner: kubuntu uses kpackagekit
[18:31] <James147> JackStoner: although the version in maverick is allot better then the one in lucid :)
[18:31] <smooph> or so
[18:31] <James147> JackStoner: i recomends you wait to try that one before you judge it
[18:32] <James147> (can use it now, just keep in mind allot of things have improved before you decide to never use it again)
[18:33] <JackStoner> James147: im not really judging it, i personally use apt-get but im asking on behalf of a newbie i know :P
[18:33] <James147> JackStoner: :)
[18:33] <smooph> James147: sorry I don't think this is the right spot ... I am not looking for questions ... I am looking for answers ... of course I have added the repository and yes I can install everything but I don't want my fingers to bleed I just want one command ... like ... apt-get install * from repository
[18:34] <James147> just saing because allot of people have complained about the current version in lucid :)
[18:36] <James147> smooph: ... I ask questions as I think you are needlessly looking into something that you really dont need... apt-get install *   will install the latest version from all the repos it knows about, so why would you need to tell it a spicific repo?
[18:37] <JackStoner> smooph: maybe you can disable all the other repos for a while the do apt-get update then install *
[18:37] <smooph> because I don't want everything from all repositories but everything from one ...
[18:37] <smooph> that might work ... I was hoping for a "nice" way to do it but if it works thats fine too
[18:38] <smooph> thanks
[18:38] <James147> smooph: o, you mean install all packages from a single repo? sorry, miss understood you
[18:38] <JackStoner> no prob
[18:41] <smooph> JackStoner: nice thinking but the packages from the repo depend on packages of the standard repos :(
[18:42] <JackStoner> smooph: :(
[18:42] <JackStoner> i'll think again a bit more :P
[18:44] <smooph> would forcing the install and afterwards fix-missing work ?
[18:44] <JackStoner> mmhh...it might actually
[18:45] <JackStoner> try it...but if it breaks your system, YOU came up with the idea :D
[18:46] <James147> smooph: from aptitudes man page: to select a package from a particular archive, append “/<archive>” to the package name: for instance, “aptitude install apt/experimental”.
[18:46] <smooph> nice
[18:52] <yousuf> hi all
[18:52] <smooph> James147: sorry not working
[18:53] <Solid_Snake> hi everyone
[18:53] <Solid_Snake> am new here
[18:53] <Solid_Snake> and to linux itself
[18:53] <smooph> this is different because an archive seems to be different from a repository
[18:53] <Solid_Snake> any one could give me some website which i could visit to learn using linux ?
[18:53] <James147> Welcome  Solid_Snake
[18:54] <Solid_Snake> hi James147
[18:54] <Solid_Snake> :)
[18:54] <James147> smooph: then I dont think there is an easy way :(   I beleave that you could however, get a list of apckages in a file and isntall them
[18:54] <James147> that way
[18:55] <smooph> Solid_Snake:  http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de
[18:55] <smooph> James147: I was thinking about that too
[18:55] <James147> smooph: I think it would be "cat file | xargs sudo aptitude install "
[18:56] <Solid_Snake> um any website in english or french plz ?
[18:57] <Solid_Snake> thnx for the link smooph but i cant understand the language
[18:57] <gordonsliman> ????
[19:03] <chinmaya> how to install kdesvn in kubuntu
[19:03] <fwh> sudo apt-get install kdesvn
[19:03] <fwh> ?
[19:03] <chinmaya> its not working ..
[19:04] <chinmaya> tried with kdesvn-build , and it is also not working
[19:04] <fwh> Do you have the correct repositorys enabled
[19:04] <fwh> ?
[19:04] <chinmaya> yeah ..i am using KUbuntu 10.04
[19:04] <geekosopher> chinmaya: you mean kdesvn is not getting installed, or is it not working after installing?
[19:05] <chinmaya> geekosopher: i want to install kdesvn ?
[19:05] <geekosopher> chinmaya: do you get any error message when you give "sudo apt-get install kdesvn" command?
[19:05] <Kyle__> Is there a way to set the default session for all users in kubuntu to be umm... well simpler?
[19:07] <chinmaya> geekosopher: i just did dpkg -l | grep kdesvn and found 2 packages , i guess its already installed
[19:08] <chinmaya> geekosopher: sudo apt-get install kdesvn gives the output as kdesvn is already the newest version
[19:08] <geekosopher> so that means it is installed, may be there is some problem starting it
[19:16] <geekosopher> chinmaya: how do you try to start the application?
[19:36] <leighalan> how / where can i change the name of my hard drive?
[19:37] <James147> leighalan: depends on what filesystem
[19:37] <leighalan> how do i chefk that so i can tell you?
[19:37] <James147> run "mount" in terminal
[19:37] <leighalan> ok?
[19:39] <leighalan> now what? i got some weird stuff back
[19:39] <James147> leighalan: pastebin it
[19:39] <James147> !pastebin
[19:40] <leighalan> leighalan@leighalan-desktop:~$ mount
[19:40] <leighalan> /dev/sdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[19:40] <leighalan> tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[19:40] <leighalan> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:40] <leighalan> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:40] <FloodBotK1> leighalan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <leighalan> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[19:40] <James147> leighalan: please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:41] <leighalan> sorry
[19:41] <James147> leighalan: but I take it /dev/sdb1  is the one you want to rename? (its the one that hold your current os)
[19:41] <DarthFrog> Maverick RC is out.  Upgrade from Lucid by: ALT-F2, then: kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d"
[20:00] <ewoerner> maverick rc feels like pulling teeth :-(
[20:03] <DarthFrog> ewoerner: Slow?
[20:04] <ewoerner> unbearably slow
[20:04] <ewoerner> hm
[20:05] <ewoerner> apparently the intel driver isn't used
[20:09] <ewoerner> probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Mavericki8xxStatus
[20:10] <ewoerner> /var/log/xorg.conf sounds weird to me
[20:11] <ewoerner> i guess that should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:14] <joe_ed> hello
[20:47] <jhutchins> Can anyone confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/652370
[20:57]  * althusius hi all
[20:58] <highvoltage> hi althusius
[20:59] <althusius> hi
[20:59] <althusius> do you like AC/DC ?
[21:01] <mauro> ciao
[21:01] <althusius> chi mi può dare una mano un attimo ?
[21:33] <kla> Hello
[21:42] <icepane> buona serata
[22:06] <darkdelusions> !! italian
[22:22] <jealousbarber> hello . ktorrent freezes for me when downloading large files , verify filesbarely works
[22:23] <jealousbarber> is there something wrong with my harddrive
[22:26] <jealousbarber> is there anyone who can give a possible answer for that ?
[22:45] <Fleck> anyone knows - can i connect esata device to esatap
[22:45] <Fleck> ? will connector fit?
[23:26] <owner> i need some help with my computer
[23:27] <James147> !ask | owner
[23:29] <owner> how do i get to files that i have already downloaded...i downloaded itunes for linux and i cant find it.
[23:31] <James147> owner: itunes for linux? that dosnt exist does it?
[23:32] <James147> owner: but downloaded files should be in ~/Downloads or ~/Documents
[23:32] <James147> (possiblly ~/Desktop  depending on what you downloaded it with)
[23:45] <Lord_Drachenblut> James147: itunes can kinda be run in wine as I have heard
[23:49] <James147> Lord_Drachenblut: but its not 'for' linux
[23:50] <James147> Lord_Drachenblut: and I still have to wonder why you would want to try :p
[23:56] <Lord_Drachenblut> why would you want to run ms office on windows
[23:56] <Lord_Drachenblut> or IE for linux


[21:20] <jeremyb> packages.ubuntu.com is broke?
[21:36] <daker> jeremyb: known issue
[21:36] <daker> IS is working on it
[21:52] <jeremyb> daker: where is the normal place to find out about that?
[21:53] <daker> jeremyb: #canonical-sysadmin
[21:53] <jeremyb> aha
[21:53] <jeremyb> i tried status.ubuntu.com but that doesn't seem to be what i expected. (see e.g. status.wikimedia.org)
[21:54] <daker> #canonical-sysadmin is the place to ask


[08:46] <wisevoyager> kemana pergi nya website jomlinux?
[08:46] <wisevoyager> dah tutup? asalak?
[08:52] <rsh> hello can anyone help with my tech prob
[09:03] <wisevoyager> rsh: tech prob?
[09:04] <wisevoyager> asalak ni?
[09:04] <wisevoyager> just to KatieKitty ek..
[09:04] <wisevoyager> ask her plse..
[09:05] <wisevoyager> coz she is very smart!
[18:50] <wisevoyager> Ubuntu is an immensely popular Debian-based distro..
[18:50] <wisevoyager> <(")


[06:24] <collabra> can i ask a quesion?
[06:25] <vish> !ask | collabra
[06:25] <collabra> I would like to talk to anyone i can about a 'ban' in #ubuntu
[06:28] <persia> The other place you asked is the right place.
[13:51] <serfus> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-members
[13:51] <serfus> is this active?
[13:51] <serfus> and what is the TBA ?
[13:52] <bazhang> serfus, yep they are active
[13:53] <serfus> well, the team is empty
[13:53] <bazhang> there are six members iirc
[13:53] <serfus> only the IRCC
[13:53] <Pici> serfus: no, its not active.
[13:54] <bazhang> whoops
[13:54] <Pici> Its not the way that we track IRC Operators anymore.
[13:55] <serfus> oh was that for ops? okay then...
[13:55] <serfus> thanks
[13:55] <Pici> serfus: We'll probably be discussing ways to track IRC user contributions at UDS.
[13:56] <jpds> Again?
[13:56] <Pici> yep, we like talking about things again and again.
[13:56] <bazhang> thankbot
[13:56] <serfus> Ubuntu Developer Summit ?
[13:57] <serfus> what's that to do with IRC?
[13:59] <Pici> serfus: There are lots of discussions about the Ubuntu Community there.
[14:01] <serfus> oh, didn't know that.. well great :)
[16:32] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-community-team, paultag said: !machine is nice
[16:33] <Pici> yep.


[02:15] <mfilipe> how do I do to get .config of oneiric kernel?
[02:16] <mfilipe> my kernel is 32bits-pae
[02:17] <Sarvatt> mfilipe: /boot/config-3.0.0-whatever-generic
[02:17] <mfilipe> Sarvatt, thanks a lot! :)
[02:17] <Sarvatt> replace whatever with a number of course, dont know what kernel you're using :)
[02:23] <mfilipe> Sarvatt, default... 3.0.0. I found the config
[02:23] <mfilipe> ;)
[07:38]  * smb yawns
[08:30] <TeTeT> a customer reports random freezes on x220 (sandybridge) with 10.04 and lowell and natty-backports-lts kernel. Is there any magic sysreq thing I can ask them to run to gather useful info from the crashed systems?
[08:34] <smb> TeTeT, Depends a bit on what really happens. Is it freezing (desktop only or whole system) or a crash. First may show not much and if the whole system is frozen, the sysrq keys don't work either.
[08:35] <TeTeT> smb: ok, seems system is completely frozen, e.g. ssh doesn't work any longer. Only at times the mouse pointer remains moveable
[08:36] <smb> TeTeT, So one thing to try could be to ssh in before and do a tail -f on the syslog and hope to catch something there.
[08:36] <TeTeT> smb: ok, good thing to monitor in real time, I'll suggest that, maybe using the remote option of rsyslog as well
[09:11] <ppisati> morning
[09:13] <cking> morning
[09:14] <smb> morning
[09:15] <smb> cking, You know what, I fixed the jumbled characters in my battery readout that caused udev to go wild...
[09:21] <cking> smb, how?
[09:22] <cking> smb, was this a user space fix or in the kernel?
[09:22] <smb> cking, Removing the battery for a while... Now the strange characters are gone... :/
[09:22] <cking> oh
[09:23] <cking> that's kinda amusing
[09:23] <smb> So it was a hardware fix... :-P
[09:24] <cking> still, the udev issue still needs to be fixed IMHO
[09:24] <smb> Wished I had thought of that last week. Would have saved me the annoying stop/start cycles on udev
[09:24] <smb> I tend to agree, there must be a way to stop a call that has a permanent issue instead of repeating it
[09:31] <apw> jjohansen, hello
[09:32] <smb> morning apw
[09:32] <apw> morning
[10:47] <Kano> hi apw , could you take a look in pata_of_platform.c ?
[10:48] <Kano> apw: it seems there must be a 32 bit error?
[11:32] <ppisati> herton: hold on for the omap4 kernel, i'm respinning it
[11:35] <herton> ppisati: ok, it's ok to respin it, that problem in the changelog should be fixed
[11:36] <ppisati> herton: yep, but Tim pushed the Linaro revert on top of the previous version, let inclue that patch too
[11:36] <ppisati> *let me include
[11:37] <herton> ppisati: ok, see if there is an abi change needed also because of the change, may be not, I'm not sure but I think abi check is enabled for this one (only disabled for armhf from what I saw yesterday)
[11:38] <ppisati> no abi changes
[11:38] <herton> ok cool
[11:57] <ppisati> herton: ok, all done
[11:58] <herton> ppisati: ack, thanks
[11:58] <ppisati> herton: and it passed the verify-release-ready test
[12:19] <herton> ppisati: tim pushed the patch to you? it misses the signed-off (may be I'm being too pedantic now)
[12:32] <ppisati> herton: nope, it's alreadi in ubuntu-oneiric/ti-omap4
[12:33] <ppisati> (why kernel.ubuntu.com is always so slow????)
[12:34] <herton> ppisati: indeed, I forgot to fetch
[12:34] <ppisati> git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4
[12:35]  * ppisati goes to find something for lunch...
[13:02] <apw> cking, about ?  wondering about resurecting the kernel power consumption blueprint, as a bucket for your workitems
[13:02] <apw> seems the logical thing to od
[13:56] <tgardner> ogasawara, given Rick's test policy, do you suppose we should delay uploading precise until about -rc2 ?
[14:02] <ogasawara> tgardner: that sounds safer
[14:02] <tgardner> ogasawara, shall I rebase against -rc1 ? I'd like to get some master-next testing under way
[14:02] <smb> Though potentially that policy does not apply to us as I think they say Ubuntu developed sw
[14:03] <ogasawara> tgardner: go for it
[14:03] <tgardner> smb, folks will howl anyways if we break their kernel
[14:04] <ogasawara> tgardner: gimme 5min to push the reverted ntrig patches
[14:04] <tgardner> ogasawara, ack
[14:04] <smb> tgardner, That is true. Even more if it stops booting... So to wait an rc sounds like a save play
[14:07] <smb> tgardner, Btw, not sure whether you would still look at it but <IP_ADDRESS> feels like soon being followed by a fixup .48. Some patches seem to break builds...
[14:08] <tgardner> smb, yep, saw that. armel failure, right ?
[14:08] <smb> tgardner, Well that and an allmodconfig explodes on my amd64 build in some soc module
[14:09] <tgardner> smb, if it builds for our configs, and doesn't break omap3, then its likely still worth applying.
[14:10] <ogasawara> tgardner: pushed
[14:11] <tgardner> ogasawara, ack
[14:12] <smb> tgardner, Not sure whether we would hit those (well the first one likely). I have not yet tried any builds on our side. I'd probably delay until it is fixed, then I can push a fixed up drm33 and we could use that one.
[14:13] <tgardner> smb, do you have some drm patches for this next stable update ?
[14:13] <smb> There is two drm fixes from Debian that I would add as well. And then it might just be one run on the formal (tracking side)
[14:13] <tgardner> ok
[14:14] <ogasawara> tgardner: fwd'd you a patch from apw to fix a 3.2-rc1 build failure
[14:14]  * smb finds it scary to start answering tgardner questions before he asks them...
[14:14] <tgardner> smb, she's just that good
[14:15] <smb> tgardner, I do not count me as a she... ;-P
[14:15] <tgardner> smb, thought you were talking about ogasawara
[14:15]  * apw looks vague
[14:16] <smb> Nah, I was typing the answer to the drm question when you asked it
[14:16] <smb> Of course I am not that fast of a typist so I did not beat you on pressing enter
[14:16]  * smb wonders whether he needs to slap apw...
[14:16]  * apw sends smb a typing tutor
[14:17] <apw> smb, always
[14:17] <tgardner> apw, how's the custom binary maintenance prototype coming? this epoll patch continues to clog my folder.
[14:17] <apw> tgardner, heh i was just checking that branch out ...
[14:49] <ppisati> tgardner: can you install u-boot-tools on tangerine inside the oneiric-amd64 chroot? need it to create the uImage kernels for arm (when i'm building from vanilla)
[14:52] <tgardner> ppisati, done
[15:05]  * ogasawara back in 20
[15:59] <apw> tgardner, ok so i have a prototype basically working.  i am a little concerned about the semantics
[16:00] <apw> tgardner, essentially we have two options, either clean creates the patches, or we have a 'refresh' option you use for this function
[16:00] <apw> in the first instance things are automatic, but local test builds you need to know you need to push the dependant branches also
[16:01] <apw> in the latter you need to know to refresh them when changing things, which can be inforced at insertchanges time
[16:01] <apw> but testing is much more 'as it is now'
[16:02] <smb> I'd tend towards the refresh option...
[16:03] <ogasawara> are we having a meeting today?
[16:03] <apw> ug i hope not :)
[16:03] <smb> It would be in one hour, or?
[16:03] <apw> bjf, is the master of all things meeting
[16:03] <bjf> ogasawara, who would run it?
[16:04] <ogasawara> bjf: I don't know if we actually decided who's running the meetings now
[16:04]  * jussi waves to ogasawara
[16:04] <apw> oh did bjf abdicate ?
[16:04] <ogasawara> apw: he did
[16:04]  * ogasawara waves to jussi
[16:04]  * smb missed that, too
[16:05] <ogasawara> I don't think it was widely circulated that he stepped down from being the chair
[16:05] <apw> well i am pretty sure noone wants to do it, so perhaps we need to return to a rotating chair
[16:05] <ogasawara> I vote that we postpone till next week.  I'll chair.
[16:06] <bjf> ogasawara, smb and apw were at the same table with me at plumbers when i made the statement :-)
[16:06] <apw> ok, works for me.  we need to make sure its nice and documented to the untrained eye so we can rotate it
[16:06] <smb> bjf, probably too drunk then... :-P
[16:06] <apw> plmbers, plumbers, you expect me to remember that far back ?
[16:07] <bjf> smb, could be though it was in the a.m. at the hotel
[16:08] <cking> I recall bjf saying it
[16:08] <smb> bjf, Oh, morning bah...
[16:09] <jussi> DO you peoples use the meeting bot for your meetings?  (meetingology)
[16:09] <apw> cking, heh then you should have reminded us :)
[16:09] <apw> jussi, yep
[16:09] <bjf> jussi, the new bot sucks
[16:09] <cking> ...and I thought "if it I join the kernel team it means somebody as disorganised as me running the meeting == fail"
[16:09] <jussi> bjf: how so?
[16:09] <bjf> jussi, the output is ignored
[16:09] <jussi> bjf: more specific pleasE?
[16:10] <apw> it does tend to stomp all over what you are trying to read by repeating everything and chainging the topic all the time
[16:10] <bjf> jussi, we developed our own scripts for deailing with the meeting output, the bot doesn't come close to producing the same, so I/we just ignore it
[16:10] <apw> quite why it does that i am unsure
[16:10] <jussi> bjf: and if there are specific issues, bugs would be super.
[16:11] <apw> for me the issue it about once a year we get a new format out of it
[16:11] <jussi> bjf: so you dont like the wiki output the bot makes?
[16:11] <jussi> AlanBell: ping
[16:11] <apw> which is just a pain.  we already had to make something make what we wanted to cope with the old
[16:11] <bjf> jussi, no, it's not helpful
[16:11] <jussi> (AlanBell is the author fyi)
[16:12] <bjf> jussi, i explained this to AlanBell
[16:12] <apw> bot, so ... we just continue to do the same and we are bot agnostic
[16:12] <jussi> strange. I find it most helpful.
[16:12] <apw> do you push many tables through it ?
[16:13] <jussi> No...
[16:13] <jussi> I guess IRC team meetings are very different to kernel meetings ;)
[16:13] <bjf> jussi, the bot grabs the topic changes but then just adds the raw irc log at the end, i don't find that usefull
[16:17] <jussi> bjf: As I said, Im sure bugs would be helpful - perhaps in the future we can create modes in it so theres a mode that puts the output to a style that works better for teams with this kind of meeting.
[16:17] <bjf> jussi, as i said, i discussed it with AlanBell, he didn't see it as bugs, i'm more than happy to keep doing what i'm doing
[16:19] <apw> often trying to make something do everything is a recipe for disaster
[16:20] <apw> bjf, does the new bot at least give us the beginning and end so we can find the poo to process mroe easily ?
[16:21] <bjf> apw, i just use the raw log, it's easy enough to find the beginning and end
[16:21] <bjf> apw, there is a startmeeting/endmeeting
[16:22] <apw> fair enough, was thinking if there was a url it gave you at the end and you could use that to process against that it might have value
[16:23] <bjf> apw, maybe, but i'd have to make changes to the script, and the next time they change the bot output i'd have to make more, and so on, and so on, ...
[16:23] <apw> fair enough
[16:24] <bjf> apw, the next person to run the meeting can decide if they want to do it differently
[16:25] <ogasawara> I doubt anyone is really reading our meeting minutes that closely to even care
[16:25] <bjf> jussi, "our way" is completely documented: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/RunningTheIRCMeeting
[16:26] <bjf> ogasawara: that is very true
[16:29] <joaopinto> Hi
[16:30] <joaopinto> after apt-get sourcing the kernel where can I find the list of Ubuntu specific patches ?
[16:30] <jjohansen> apw: morning, so what I was pinging you about was CVE-2011-4081, it is marked as needed for hardy but at least on a first glance it looks like the code wasn't introduced until 2.6.32
[16:30] <ubot2> jjohansen: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-4081)
[16:30] <apw> ogasawara, that RunningTheIRCMeeting page doesn't seem to have the kteam-tools magic in it, perhaps you could slam it in when you work it out
[16:31] <ogasawara> apw: yep, will do
[16:31] <apw> joaopinto, the ubuntu specific patches are all directly applied in the version you get from apt-get source
[16:31] <joaopinto> ah ok :\
[16:31] <jjohansen> have you managed to fully script the meeting now :)
[16:31] <apw> joaopinto, if you want the raw patches they are in the our public git trees
[16:32] <apw> joaopinto, every upload has a corresponding tag in those repositories to allow you to find the exact source
[16:32] <joaopinto> I have checked the source, just wanted to be sure the patch was not applied somehow during the build process
[16:32] <apw> other than on hardy there are no patches applied at build time
[16:33] <apw> jjohansen, you should be able to mark hardy 'not-affected' then and my bot will trust you
[16:33] <apw> jjohansen, in theory if the other end was working changing it to Invalid in the bug would be sufficient
[16:33] <joaopinto> there is no patch included for bug 843431 yet :\
[16:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 843431 in linux "Logitech camera microphone does not work / makes "chipmunk" sound" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843431
[16:33] <apw> jjohansen, propogating to UCT as not-affected and triggering my ignoreing it
[16:34] <apw> joaopinto, is it marked Fix Released ?
[16:34] <joaopinto> no, actually there are many bugs related to this issue, with different status and progresses
[16:34] <jjohansen> apw: okay, so just fix it in uct, or do I need to mark invalid in the bug too
[16:34] <apw> joaopinto, indeed from the bug it is not clear that anyone has a fix for it even
[16:35] <joaopinto> http://pkgbuild.com/~heftig/linux-zen/usb-add-reset-resume-quirk-for-several-webcams.patch
[16:35] <joaopinto> https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=usb-add-quirk-for-logitech-webcams.patch&package=linux&project=home%3Agrayden&srcmd5=ac65d19a58e7dbdcd8a328e124aac0b5
[16:35] <joaopinto> well, someone is applying patches for it :)
[16:36] <joaopinto> I have one affected webcam, whose device id is not listed on that specific patch, I am testing it now
[16:37] <bjf> joaopinto, it helps to know which version you are talking about
[16:37] <joaopinto> bjf, version for ?
[16:37] <apw> joaopinto, ok that patch seem to have _just_ hit mainline in v3.2-rc1
[16:37] <bjf> joaopinto, also, we get most of these cinds of patches from upstream stable releases
[16:37] <joaopinto> yeah, was checking http://www.spinics.net/lists/stable-commits/msg13878.html
[16:38] <apw> joaopinto, and it is marked for stable so we should see it for older releases soon enough via there
[16:38] <bjf> joaopinto, kernel version or hardy/lucid/maverick/natty/oneiric
[16:38] <joaopinto> I don't remember when the problem was introduced, it's present on oneiric
[16:39] <bjf> joaopinto, that's all i wanted to know, what kernel you were trying to build (didn't see it in the scroll back)
[16:40] <apw> joaopinto, ok added the useful bits of that to the bottom of the bug
[16:40] <joaopinto> apw, where can I check the v3.2-rc1 quirk patch ? (want to to check for my device id)
[16:41] <apw> it is 2394d67e446bf616a0885167d5f0d397bdacfdfc in linus' tree
[16:42] <apw> joaopinto, ok that patch is sitting in gregs queue for 3.0 and 3.1
[16:43] <apw> so we should get it in oneiric in the next weeks
[16:43] <joaopinto> ok, QuickCam E 3500 not there, I am going to test for a few more days to be sure that it fixed, once I am sure, how should I proceed to ask for a device id to be added to the list ?
[16:43] <apw> the most direct way is to send a patch up to mainline and mark it for stable handling
[16:43] <joaopinto> (the issue is random, I can't reliably determine that the fix is working)
[16:44] <apw> if that too scarey you can send a patch to the ubuntu kernel list and we can help
[16:44] <joaopinto> well, I am an end-user, whatever is easier for me :)
[16:45] <joaopinto> I will email the ubuntu kernel list with the bug report link
[16:45] <AlanBell> bjf: if it doesn't work for a team then that is a bug
[16:46] <joaopinto> tks for your time
[16:49] <joaopinto> this bug is present since the last LTS http://www.techytalk.info/logitech-e3500-webcam-and-cannot-set-freq-16000-to-ep-0x86/ :\
[16:59]  * ppisati bails out for a bit...
[17:26] <bjf> ogasawara, we have a "bugs with patches" report somewhere don't we? or do we just do a lp advanced search ?
[17:26] <ogasawara> bjf: lp advanced search
[17:26] <bjf> ogasawara: ack
[17:26] <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+patches
[17:26] <ogasawara> bjf: although I had a pretty graph of it somewhere
[17:27] <bjf> smb: thanks
[17:29]  * bjf wonders if "patch attached" should be displayed on our custom reports
[18:00] <htorque_> hi all! is bugzilla.kernel.org down for you (or still not up after the security breach)? i'm wondering if it's known that intel wireless (ultimate-n 6300) is not working with 3.2-rc1 (just tried the mainline ppa yet).
[18:20] <bjf> htorque_: bugzilla.kernel.org is still down
[18:22] <htorque_> bjf: thanks!
[19:01]  * tgardner -> lunch
[19:50] <cwillu_at_work> 32bit mainline ppa builds?
[19:51] <cwillu_at_work> (broken until the build tools are updated for precise?  something else?)
[21:48] <undriedsea> Hey Everyone,
[21:48] <undriedsea> I am having a problem accessing /proc/<pid>/mem range after mprotect has made it readable. It almost seems the procfs driver is not aware of the updated permissions. Any ideas or hints would be great!
[21:48] <undriedsea>     1. Process A ptrace ATTACHs to process B
[21:48] <undriedsea>     2. Process A cannot access of a given range in process Bs /proc/<pid>/mem due to the associated mapping in /proc/<pid>/maps being non-readable
[21:48] <undriedsea>     3. Process A requests process B use mprotect to mark given mapping as readable (mprotect returns success)
[21:48] <undriedsea>     4. Process A now should be able to read the range in /proc/<pid>/mem but can only read part of the range...
[21:48] <undriedsea> Details: http://codepad.org/DMItNdYa
[22:23] <undriedsea> Does anyone know who is the maintainer of the part of the kernel that container the mprotect systemcall?
[23:26] <Somedude> I get this when trying to turn on VT-d. (Intel VT-d tech enabled), intel_iommu=on(!): Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address fed90000 returns all ones
[23:26] <Somedude> The BIOS is up to date, so what can exactly cause this error/warning?
[23:37] <Kano> hi, is there a reason why the generic target is dropped for 32 bit?
[23:37] <Kano> older pentium m do not boot with pae enabled
[23:37] <Kano> and some other older cpus
[23:41] <Sarvatt> http://www.linux-archive.org/ubuntu-kernel-team/596063-3-2-rc1-rebase-review.html
[23:41] <Sarvatt> geode and pentium-m yeah
[23:42] <Somedude> Sarvatt: any ideas on my one?
[23:42] <Sarvatt> Somedude: you literally have a buggy bios, its not exactly uncommon or anything, VT-d is all kinds of pain
[23:42] <Kano> there are lots of pple with that hardware out there
[23:42] <Sarvatt> does it fall back to swiotlb gracefully?
[23:43] <Sarvatt> if not you can boot with intel_iommu=off to work around it
[23:43] <Somedude> how do I check?
[23:43] <Sarvatt> dmesg | grep SWIOTLB will tell you
[23:43] <Somedude> I need it for directed I/O, that's a bit of the pain
[23:44] <Somedude> yes
[23:44] <Somedude> it does
[23:44] <Somedude> what to do to work around this problem?
[23:45] <Somedude> Sarvatt: can I get Directed I/O with swiotlb too?
[23:46] <Somedude> I need to put an PCI card to an KVM VM
[23:46] <Sarvatt> Somedude: honestly I have no clue, I imagine you can though
[23:47] <Sarvatt> there was a bug awhile back where it would completely turn off iommu support if you got that error but thats fixed now apparently
[23:48] <Somedude> Sarvatt: this one you mean? http://freecode.com/articles/red-hat-updated-kernel-packages-fix-multiple-security-issues-16
[23:48] <Somedude> 588638 - [abrt] crash in kernel: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address fed90000 returns all ones!
[23:49] <Somedude> I need to contact the supplier of the motherboard and ask them for a fixed BIOS, I guess?
[23:49] <Sarvatt> yeah sounds like what google pulled up when I searched for it, you might be able to get more info there :) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524808
[23:50] <ubot2> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 524808 in kernel "swiotlb should be enabled when VT-d setup fails" [High,Closed: errata]
[23:51] <Sarvatt> yeah but honestly don't expect that would happen unless its really new (then theres probably still no chance..), OEMs usually just ship crap out the door and give up on it :)
[23:53] <bjf> Kano, it was discussed at uds and the decision was made there, feel free to post a question to the ubuntu kernel team mailing list
[23:53] <Sarvatt> Kano: maybe send a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>discussing it
[23:53] <Sarvatt> bjf beat me to it
[23:53] <bjf> heh
[23:53] <Kano> Sarvatt: ?
[23:53] <Sarvatt> regarding the dropping support for pentium m
[23:55] <Somedude> Sarvatt: I have a contact by ASUS Holland, I will tickle him until he provides me a new BIOS
[23:55] <Somedude> *A working one, that is
[23:58]  * Somedude yawns
[23:59]  * Somedude -> bed
[23:59] <Somedude> 'night all


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[18:35] <jxl> hello
[18:36] <jxl> i want to use apt for installing packages onto a device running ubuntu touch
[18:36] <jxl> i've set the image rw (i dont care about future upgrades and integrity), but when i do try to install anything, apt fails to resolve DNS names of repositories
[18:37] <jxl> while actually pinging those names does work - so this appears to be apt specific for some reason
[18:37] <jxl> i overwrite /etc/resolv.conf to temporarily resolve from <IP_ADDRESS> and that didn't help
[18:37] <jxl> can someone give me a pointer on how to fix this?
[18:38] <jxl> or, another option would be containers via libertine, but for some reason, the libertine LxcContainer and LxdContainer classes are not installed by default (python), making chroot containers the only available option


[05:04] <nlsthzn> o/
[13:22] <akgraner> Morning all
[13:37] <akgraner> nigelb, pleia2 do you all know hw difficult it would be to add next issue/previous issue links to the top of the UWN wiki
[13:37] <akgraner> I don't know what's involved  - to do that
[13:38] <akgraner> and we have over 200 issues to go through - but if someone knows how and can show me I'll be happy to set it up and put it on the template
[13:45] <nigelb> akgraner: Not sure. But I can take a look when I get a chance.
[13:46] <akgraner> ok maybe ask YoBoy - I think they use it on their French version
[15:51] <pleia2> all the wiki stuff we do now is done manually
[15:55] <akgraner> yep I know - I just didn't know how to  add something like that
[15:55] <akgraner> just got asked if it would be possible for us to do
[15:59] <pleia2> the tricky part is that any script written would have to be logged in via launchpad, and I'm not sure how that would work
[16:01] <philipballew> a password authentication script could be written into launchpad I would think pleia2 where they allow something like a script to access it.
[16:01] <akgraner> I figured it would screw up the scripts
[16:02] <akgraner> I was thinking previous issue - that could be added manually but danf doing that to 200+ issues would be tedious
[16:06] <pleia2> philipballew: not changes to launchpad (there's launchpad lib for that), changes to the wiki
[16:06] <pleia2> the wiki requires you first to auth through launchpad
[16:07] <pleia2> if there's a way, nigelb will find it :)
[16:07] <nigelb> hehe
[16:07] <nigelb> Or nhandler :)
[16:08] <philipballew> haha, I need to learn how launchpad works sometime better then I do now
[16:09] <akgraner> good luck I thinnk even LP people say that
[16:10] <philipballew> I understand rev systems pretty well, Just have not takin the time do do anything with that one. :)it looks interesting
[18:30] <akgraner> pleia2, what's the wiki to add interview links too
[18:30]  * akgraner forgot to book mark it
[18:30] <akgraner> I won't add all three at once
[18:30] <akgraner> I'll space them out
[18:30] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Interviews
[18:30] <akgraner> well DOH - that should be easy to remember
[18:31] <akgraner> thanks
[18:31] <pleia2> :)
[18:34]  * akgraner bookmarks and adds to my post-it note of important things to remember system :-)
[18:35] <akgraner> how long does it take from the time you post it on the wiki from the time the Fridge picks it up - just curious
[18:35] <pleia2> I'm not sure how often the cron job is run
[18:35] <pleia2> maybe hourly?
[18:35] <akgraner> ahh ok


[06:10] <orangey> hey all!
[06:10] <orangey> I'm having an issue with suspend/resume on an NC6400
[06:10] <orangey> the keyboard stops working until a command is issued..
[06:10] <orangey> I was wondering how I could propose a patch for something like this without actually fixing the kernel problem..
[03:03] <Mithrandir> BenC: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/97325 ; any idea about this?
[03:08] <rtg> Mithrandir: bug 97325 is so convoluted its hard to tell what he has. Get him to just boot from the live CD and see what his disk arrangement looks like.
[03:09] <Mithrandir> it would probably be better if some kernel person talks to him and gets the needed information from him; he's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on jabber.
[03:10] <mjg59_> rtg: I've been looking at the wireless/n-m issue again. As far as I can tell, wpa_supplicant never gets the association message from netlink, despite iwevent showing it
[03:10] <rtg> So, since I touched it last, I'm stuck :)
[03:10] <zul> rtg: pretty much :)
[03:11] <orangey> hey all!
[03:12] <BenC> rtg: Get dmesg from -14, and lspci -vvn
[03:12] <Mithrandir> would anybody mind if I nuke any kernel modules < 2.6.20 (< 2.6.19 for xen modules) from feisty?
[03:12] <Mithrandir> we seem to ship stuff like the vmware-player-modules for 2.6.15
[03:13] <zul> xen-source uses 2.6.19
[03:14] <maks_> xen is pretty unstable on 2.6.20
[03:14] <zul> but I would kill linux-source-2.6.19 ;)
[03:14] <_ion> benc: It was intentional to put nvidia_new as the last item in the nvidia_supported line in debian/rules, right?
[03:14] <BenC> _ion: Is ordering importing?
[03:14] <BenC> err, important
[03:15] <BenC> I need another lrm upload to fix the ppc ftbfs anyway
[03:15] <BenC> _ion: should I make _new first?
[03:15] <BenC> Mithrandir: for feisty, there should be only 2.6.20
[03:16] <BenC> well, and 2.6.19 for xen I guess
[03:16] <Mithrandir> BenC: yup, just wanted to make sure
[03:17] <orangey> hmmm. I know it's a basic question, but this is the first time I use linux on a multi-core.. do I use -generic for it? or 686-smp?
[03:17] <Mithrandir> orangey: -generic
[03:17] <zul> BenC: the 2.6.20 xen patch from fedora doesnt work too well
[03:17] <BenC> Mithrandir: in regards to the kernel plans for release, I was hoping the kernel-team could work on release-critical bugs this week, and we could do a non-abi changing upload this weekend post-RC
[03:17] <BenC> Mithrandir: That sound ok?
[03:17] <_ion> benc: I should have commented it more, but there was a comment in nvidia_supported itself. The first argument describes the preferred driver and the ones that follow are fallbacks. With the current state, nvidia_new is only used if neither nvidia or nvidia_legacy support a given PCI ID. To prefer nvidia_new whenever it supports the card, use nvidia_supported $(rbuilddir)/$$i/nv-new/nv-kernel.o nvidia_new $(rbuilddir)/$$i/nv/nv-kernel.o nvidia ...
[03:17] <BenC> orangey: -generic is SMP
[03:17] <_ion> ... $(rbuilddir)/$$i/nv-legacy/nv-kernel.o nvidia_legacy
[03:18] <BenC> _ion: That's not so bad really
[03:18] <Mithrandir> BenC: ugh, not very happy about that.
[03:18] <Mithrandir> BenC: give me a bit of time to discuss it?
[03:18] <mjg59_> Mithrandir: Right now the HPA stuff is still a serious regression
[03:19] <BenC> Mithrandir: well, we have some fixes to get out, and getting an upload done in time for RC is just not possible
[03:19] <_ion> benc: Kind of true, since 97xx hasn't received as much testing as 96xx.
[03:20] <BenC> Mithrandir: we will make every effort to ensure it wont change ABI though, so we can pretty much guarantee that -14 will be the released ABI...with an upload this weekend, it still gives us plenty of time to CD test the new kernel
[03:21] <_ion> benc: But at least for feisty+1, the drivers probably should be prefered in the order of descending version number.
[03:23] <orangey> Mithrandir and BenC: Thank you.
[03:23] <orangey> now to try to fix Bug #105155 : )
[03:23] <BenC> _ion: right...for not, I'll leave it, and just let 9755 be chosen for cards so new they need it
[03:23] <BenC> erg, "for now"
[03:23] <_ion> benc: All right.
[03:24] <BenC> _ion: guess it was a decent mistake to make...oh, and thanks for all your help with it
[03:24] <BenC> pity it took me so long to get things out
[03:24] <BenC> it's was a horrid mess
[03:24] <_ion> Thanks for your trouble. I realize you have a lot to do, especially just before a release. :-)
[03:25] <_ion> I take it the patch that actually modifies the modules' alias lists is also going to get to feisty+1?
[03:26] <_ion> Just installing the override files to /usr/share/l-r-m is okay, restricted-manager has already been modified to read them.
[03:26] <_ion> But it would naturally be quite nice to get the accurate lists from the modules themselves.
[03:29] <BenC> _ion: I'm not sure of the side effects of putting actual module aliases in there
[03:30] <BenC> worried about autoloading and such
[03:30] <BenC> kylem: Do you have a comparison handy of the ABI changes from the HPA patch?
[03:30] <kylem> yeah
[03:30] <_ion> benc: The current aliases in the modules are only *broader*. If the modules are being autoloaded with the modified patterns, they're *definitely* being autoloaded with the current patterns.
[03:31] <cjwatson> not massively happy about overriding abichecker warnings - nearly every time we've done that before it's bitten us, and we swore not to do it again
[03:31] <BenC> cjwatson: well, before we ignored actual ABI changes
[03:31] <kylem> iirc this one only effects libata-core symbols
[03:31] <kylem> there should be no binary modules like that...
[03:32] <BenC> cjwatson: the problem with the checker is that it is not smart enough to tell when a function moves without change
[03:32] <BenC> cjwatson: moving without change really isn't a problem so long as all the symbols stay in the same package
[03:33] <_ion> benc: But anyway, the current way is fine for feisty.
[03:33] <BenC> but I worry that HPA does more than move the symbols
[03:33] <kylem> BenC, it doesn't change function prototypes or anything
[03:33] <BenC> _ion: I'm following KISS right now :)
[03:33] <_ion> benc: Yeah. :-)
[03:48] <rtg> mjg59_: I'm not ignoring you.  I'm also looking at wpasupplicant source.
[03:49] <mjg59_> rtg: No problem
[03:54] <kylem> BenC, kyle.mcmartin.ca/abi
[04:00] <mjg59_> kylem: Good to go with the HPA code and the lba48 fix
[04:01] <kylem> you're sure?
[04:01] <mjg59_> Yes
[04:01] <kylem> and it's using piix?
[04:01] <mjg59_> It's coming up with ata_piix and I'm getting good values
[04:01] <kylem> can you try a cold boot?
[04:01] <mjg59_> That was a cold boot
[04:01] <mjg59_> Want me to try a warm one?
[04:02] <kylem> sure.
[04:05] <mjg59_> kylem: Still good. Ship it.
[04:05] <kylem> thanks.
[04:28] (rtg/#ubuntu-kernel) BenC: looking...
[04:33] <zul> yay..
[05:00] <BenC> maks_: ping
[05:01] <maks_> BenC: around
[05:01] <maks_> btw i switched initramfs-tools repo to git
[05:01] <BenC> maks_: Hey, where's the patch that makes update-initramfs pull the .bak when it fails for kernel version?
[05:01] <maks_> yes
[05:02] <maks_> directly out of LP, let me dig the bug nr
[05:02] <maks_> -> http://git.debian.org/?p=kernel/initramfs-tools.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dfd85f416a10b1c41ca7005de38b58715c04472;hp=c4343742b3bf028e467ac8a58ead95c9bfefc628
[05:03] <BenC> maks_: thanks
[05:03] <kylem> mjg59_, do we want to keep my reprogram piix as ahci patch anyway or should i turf it?
[05:32] <kylem> ok good
[05:32] <kylem> it wasn't me who broke the abi now. ;-)
[05:32] <kylem> something is friggity fucked, i'm getting the same abi differences with the patches reverted.
[05:33] <kylem> and i know they actually reverted since i'm getting the kvm diff too
[05:34] <rtg> BenC: I just emailed a proposed patch for bug #96480. Lemme know if it seems reasonable.
[05:43] <maks_> BenC: np, patch works for given testcase :)
[05:50] <BenC> rtg: reviewing
[05:53] <BenC> rtg: I think the missing element is setting adapter.name...all the other i2c_add_adapter() uses I see don't need to call device_initialize(), but they do set .name
[05:55] <rtg> BenC: You might be right. device_register() calls device_initialize().
[05:57] <pkl_> The "**WARNING** I2C adapter driver []  forgot to specify physical device; fix it!" message itself is harmless
[05:57] <rtg> pkl: except for the name which is NULL.
[05:58] <pkl_> yeah
[05:58] <pkl_> I've chery-picked a patch from 2.6.21-rc1 that remove that warning.
[05:59] <BenC> that shows up for nvidia too
[05:59] <pkl_> s/chery/cherry/
[05:59] <BenC> or maybe it was ati
[05:59] <BenC> rtg: Could you see about getting a built kernel to that person for testing?
[05:59] <BenC> rtg: Might be able to get away with just sending them the module compiled for -generic if they seem capable enough to add it in /lib/modules/...
[06:00] <rtg> BenC: Yes. I'm still trying to figure out what the name should be.
[06:00] <BenC> "ACPI EC HC smbus driver"
[06:00] <BenC> seems ok
[06:00] <rtg> Isn't there an instance number?
[06:01] <BenC> snprintf(smbus->adapter.name, I2C_NAME_SIZE,
[06:01] <BenC>                 "SMBus nForce2 adapter at %04x", smbus->base);
[06:01] <BenC> guess you can do something like that
[06:01] <rtg> BenC: I'm looking upstream to see what they have done.
[06:01] <BenC> ok
[06:05] <mjg59_> kylem: Eh, depends if you think it's worth it. It's certainly not high-risk.
[06:05] <mjg59_> Sorry, certainly not high-priority
[06:16] <kylem> yeah
[06:26] <BenC> ok, I've had my morning burn in time, need lunch
[06:40] <BenC> Looks like today might be a good day to start on feisty+1 kernel tree
[06:40] <zul> yay!
[06:40] <BenC> looking forward to dumping kernel-package from build-deps
[06:41] <zul> BenC: I think everybody is
[06:41] <zul> *cough* mercurcial *cough*
[06:41] <BenC> kylem: I think removing the ubuntu/* stuff from our main tree will help alleviate most of our problems
[06:42] <kylem> no. but it really makes it quite difficult to see precisely what code we changed.
[06:42] <BenC> git-diff-tree upstream-linux..HEAD
[06:42] <zul> BenC: the cp build/vanilla build/ubuntu-xen idea is still ok isnt it?
[06:42] <kylem> that doesn't work nearly as well as you'd think
[06:42] <kylem> and provides no context
[06:43] <BenC> kylem: I think if I also started enforcing a rebase instead of just merging, it would go a long way to help that too
[06:44] <kylem> keeping all patches in quilt and keeping the quilt-with-all-patches tree in git would not be too bad...
[06:45] <kylem> but yea, i agree
[06:45] <kylem> ubuntu/ out of the maintree would help phenomenally.
[06:45] <cjwatson> building in .diff.gz mode way earlier would help
[06:46] <BenC> cjwatson: we might be able to do that for feisty+1 with ubuntu/* in a separate package
[06:46] <BenC> it's all our third part drivers that kept that from being sane
[06:46] <BenC> *party
[06:47] <cjwatson> well, also basing on 2.6.20 before it was out
[06:47] <zul> keeping an ubuntu/patches list would be cool for 3rd party crack (ie: xen openvz)
[06:47] <BenC> the other problem is the amount of actual patches we have to the main repo
[06:47] <BenC> we have patches we've been carrying around since breezy because upstream wont take it, or the real fixes are "being worked on"
[06:48] <kylem> well, with a bigger kernel team, it's possible we'll actually be able to do proper fixes for some of them, no?
[06:48] <BenC> yeah, I'm hoping that's what happens :)
[06:48] <zul> community can help as well ;)
[06:49] <BenC> once I get feisty+1 tree open, we can identify them, and work to have them upstream for next kernel
[06:50] <BenC> based on release times, I think feisty+1 will end up being 2.6.22, so that gives us that merge window to send things to linus et al
[06:52] <BenC> it's cool that feisty will end up releasing with the latest stable kernel version instead of a 1 or 2 out version :)
[06:52] <cjwatson> I think that's worked out relatively well and will work well for feisty+1 too, but maybe not for feisty+2
[06:53] <cjwatson> or whichever ends up being LTS (but current projection is feisty+2 I think)
[06:53] <kylem> so next october would be LTS?
[06:53] <BenC> yeah, we'll need more cooking time on that one
[06:54] <cjwatson> feisty+2 == April 2008
[06:54] <kylem> ah, right
[06:55] <BenC> FYI, I'll be moving ubuntu-2.6.git over to ubuntu-feisty.git sometime in the next few days
[06:56] <BenC> so if ubuntu-2.6 goes missing, or shows up as not of the same parent, you'll know why :)
[06:56] <kylem> would it not be easier just to name them ubuntu-${mascot} from the beginning :)
[06:57] <BenC> that would be like intuitive or something...not really my style
[06:57] <zul> hah
[06:57] <kylem> :P
[06:57] <BenC> problem is I don't know $mascot for feisty+1 yet :P
[06:58] <kylem> i don't think it's been announced yet, so you have a point there, :\
[06:58] <zul> how about ubuntu-dev
[06:58] <BenC> not really much better than ubuntu-2.6
[06:59] <zul> ubuntu-im-going-to-break-it-nyeah-nyeah.git
[07:03] <BenC> ubuntu-good-bear.git
[07:03] <kylem> BenC, *shudder*
[07:04] <BenC> And anyone that corrects me on why that isn't a good bear, gets the award for being most pedantic :)
[08:20] <rtg> BenC: I still think bug #96480 is because of an uninitialized device structure. I'm betting it is an uninitialized parent in device_add():464. Could this be a race with platform_bus_init()? I'm almost sure that could be the case in 2.6.20-20.12 when folks get the "forgot to specify physical device" message.
[10:46] <jbailey> BenC: Around?
[11:25] <BenC> jbailey: yeah
[11:27] <anti_pop> sorry, i know its not a support channel. but i cant find an answer: should i use the -generic kernel oder -386 (my cpu is amd athlon xp)
[11:27] <jbailey> BenC: Heya, I don't think we ever finished talking about the best way for out-of-tree modules to get updated.
[11:27] <jbailey> BenC: Is now a good time?
[11:27] <BenC> jbailey: given the recent experience with vbox, I'm leaning toward not putting them in the kernel :)
[11:28] <Nafallo> anti_pop: generic, as the description says.
[11:29] <jbailey> BenC: Right, so I think we were last stuck at the fact that I was concerned that building them on boot meant that boot time wouldn't be deterministic after an upgrade.
[11:29] <BenC> jbailey: ah, right
[11:29] <BenC> jbailey: should we reserve some topic time at UDS?
[11:30] <anti_pop> ok, thats what i used to. but somehow im running -386 now, will return to generic. thanks to the team for providing nvidias 9631 driver now (!)
[11:30] <BenC> will you be there?
[11:30] <jbailey> I won't be.  I'm giving a talk at JavaOne this year.
[11:30] <BenC> jbailey: will anyone from support be there?
[11:30] <jbailey> Besides, after the stories of the last trip to Spain, I think this vegan can stay home. =)
[11:30] <jbailey> Yup, Etienne and Fabian will both be there.
[11:31] <BenC> Ok, from what I understand the kernel team will have a room reserved for adhoc discussions, so maybe this is a good topic for rounding those two up
[11:31] <jbailey> Etienne will certainly want it fixed, I'm not sure if he cares much what the solution is, so long as there's something standard he can plug into.
[11:31] <jbailey> Ah, nice.
[11:31] <jbailey> If you're gobbied up and I'm not on the west coast at that particular moment,  I'll try to tune in.
[11:31] <jbailey> I suspect I will be.  I'm in the bay area for a week.
[11:31] <BenC> the feisty+1 kernel build system will be built from scratch and we plan to implement some hooks for different things
[11:32] <jbailey> Ooo.  Are we doing the no-more-make-kpkg dance?
[11:32] <BenC> yes, amen
[11:32] <jbailey> 'cause making those hppa patches was really miserable. =)
[11:33] <BenC> I have an hppa here that I need to get back up, so I should be able to keep it building this time
[11:33] <BenC> I stopped messing with it after edgy stopped booting for me :)
[11:33] <jbailey> Nice.  Hppa should generally work well for feisty+1 I think.


[01:53] <bkerensa> =o
[01:53] <bkerensa> ;p
[01:54] <bkerensa> MarkDude: We are nearly as active as Ubuntu California's IRC at times :P
[02:21]  * MarkDude pointed out a while ago you are MORE active
[02:26] <MarkDude> Ya got em beat in a few areas
[02:26] <MarkDude> Although pleia is far better to look at than yourself bkerensa
[02:26] <MarkDude> :D
[02:40] <bkerensa> lol
[02:40] <bkerensa> MarkDude: pleia2 is all around better... She is an amazing Ubuntu Contributor/Member
[02:41] <bkerensa> speaking of that MarkDude can I get that Testimonial... My app is going in October so I'm prepping my wiki/app
[17:26] <bkerensa> Good Morning everyon!
[17:27] <bkerensa> :) How goes your morning Brian_H?
[17:28] <Brian_H> bkerensa: pretty good, was thinking about making my way downtown and some point to see what you're getting into
[17:30] <bkerensa> lol
[17:30] <Brian_H> get any new toys to play with?
[17:30] <bkerensa> Brian_H: At PuppetConf? I'm not there today... Will be there tomorrow and friday... Heck I'm not even going to the Beervana Brewery Tour that is sponsored by Canonical today
[17:31] <bkerensa> Brian_H: I will have a ChromeBook today :D
[17:31] <Brian_H> Oh neat, I'll have to google that
[17:31] <bkerensa> Brian_H: Sadly Google did not send me a CR-48 and no matter how hard I pleaded they would not send me one... But Samsung's PR Firm sent me one :P
[17:31] <Brian_H> lol awesome
[17:32] <Brian_H> thats good stuff
[17:33] <MarkDude> Did you quote Ron Burgundy?
[17:33] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Heh no :P
[17:34] <bkerensa> MarkDude: Google is far too tight :) imho Facebook is even more giving
[17:34]  * MarkDude expalins it to non-geeks this way,
[17:34] <MarkDude> I am kindof a big deal in crap you dont care about
[17:34] <MarkDude> :D
[17:35] <MarkDude> Have you got in touch with Chris DiBOna?
[17:35] <MarkDude> best contact for your needs
[17:35] <MarkDude> head of communty devs is good also
[17:41] <bkerensa> I have talked to Carol
[17:42] <bkerensa> she is a Google OS Manager
[22:11] <bkerensa> Brian_H: http://i.imgur.com/EaEtT.jpg
[22:11] <bkerensa> :)
[22:11] <Brian_H> that is sweet looking
[22:11] <Brian_H> have you powered it up yet?
[22:12] <bkerensa> yep
[22:12] <bkerensa> takes under 2 seconds
[22:12] <bkerensa> like maybe 1 second tops
[22:12] <bkerensa> :)
[22:12] <Brian_H> awesome so is it basically just a browser then?
[22:12] <bkerensa> no :P
[22:12] <bkerensa> It has a linux base to it
[22:12]  * Brian_H is not familiar at all lol
[22:12] <bkerensa> and terminal
[22:12] <bkerensa> :D
[22:13] <bkerensa> you can install bash and perhaps other things
[22:17] <Brian_H> sweet
[22:53] <dgibbons> bkerensa: built in gui terminal or work around alt-f1 style?
[22:53] <bkerensa> alt-f1
[22:54] <bkerensa> dgibbons: No gui just pure terminal
[22:55] <dgibbons> gotcha
[22:56] <bkerensa> dgibbons: What was your co-workers irc nick?
[22:56] <dgibbons> hypodermia
[22:56] <bkerensa> oh thats right
[22:57] <bkerensa> :D
[22:57] <bkerensa> she is gone from irc :P
[23:58] <bkerensa> Hi :D
[23:58] <bkerensa> Conversation is sporadic here :P
[23:59] <bkerensa> but Brian_H and some others do talk :D


[07:05] <sudorm> hi! where can i find old versions of xubuntu, such as 18.04 and not 18.04.5?
[07:05] <sudorm> I can't find it anywhere
[07:14] <diogenes_> sudorm, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/
[07:15] <sudorm> diogenes_, clicking on 18.04 https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/18.04/ redirects to 18.04.5
[07:19] <oerheks> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[07:19] <oerheks> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.0/
[07:21] <sudorm> oerheks, is there the same for xubuntu?
[07:22] <sudorm> oerheks, 18.04 is not listed in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/
[07:25] <oerheks> i don  see it either, also 18.04 is EOL?
[07:26] <oerheks> https://archive.org/download/xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64/xubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64_archive.torrent
[07:26] <oerheks> torrent is still valid and active
[07:27] <oerheks> http://ftp.dei.uc.pt/pub/linux/xubuntu/releases/18.04/release/
[07:27] <oerheks> have fun
[07:32] <guiverc> sudorm, the 18.04 media does not contain a fix to a specific issue (boothole or something like that) so older media without fix was made harder to find (if not removed)
[07:32] <guiverc> the 18.04.5 media you can find contains the fixes
[07:33] <sudorm> guiverc, yes but I when I used 18.04, I had stored a script that worked flawlessly to install the right version of tensorflow, NVIDIA CUDA, etc
[07:33] <guiverc> you can install 18.04.5 and then install the GA kernel stack, making it equivalent to an 18.04/18.04.1 install if needed
[07:33] <sudorm> guiverc, now after a 18.04.5 install, it fails with errors like
[07:33] <sudorm> The following packages have unmet dependencies: cuda-10-1 : Depends: cuda-toolkit-10-1 (>= 10.1.243) but it is not going to be installed
[07:34] <sudorm> and lots of similar errors. I could only solve this by restoring a sources.list from 18.04 instead of 18.04.5
[07:35] <guiverc> I'm doing a `rmadison cuda-toolkit-10-1` no packages are available in Ubuntu repositories for any release - you'll have needed to add sources for that for any bionic/18.04 media
[07:35] <guiverc> the sources in 18.04 and 18.04.5 are identical !
[07:35] <sudorm> guiverc, yes I added repo for nvidia
[07:36] <sudorm> but it seemed like there was a mismatch conflict
[07:36] <guiverc> as I stated before; the difference is the default stack; 18.04.5 defaults to HWE, 18.04 defaulted to the older GA - which can be changed post-install
[07:36] <sudorm> guiverc, what is HWE / GA ?
[07:37] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack  &  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[07:37] <sudorm> guiverc, ok it's a kernel thing?
[07:37] <guiverc> GA = general kernel; 4.15 for 18.04, HWE is the hardware enablement that changed during first 2 years of support (using 18.10, 19.04, 19.10 before finally settling on 20.04 GA kernel stack)
[07:37] <guiverc> Xubuntu 18.04 however is EOL; 29-April-2021 was EOL for Xubuntu 18.04
[07:38] <guiverc> see https://xubuntu.org/release/18-04/
[07:38] <sudorm> guiverc, yes. First I installed 20.04
[07:39] <sudorm> but when I rebooted to make a memtest86 in grub, it was stuck. Then after further research, I found a bug report that memtest on 20.04 is bugged.
[07:39] <guiverc> memtest in 20.04 works; I've used it; it has limitations on some hardware - it's not a bug
[07:39] <sudorm> Thus, I prefer working with an older version of Xubuntu, but having everything working 100% without glitches
[07:39] <sudorm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1876157
[07:40] <sudorm> I don't want to have to deal with such things or similar problems, that's why I use 18.04
[07:40] <guiverc> well 18.04 isn't on-topic here due EOL 29-April-2021
[07:42] <guiverc> fyi: you can use `ubuntu-support-status` to view the package support for your actual install; and thus consider the risk of using the partially EOL 18.04 system (packages common to main Ubuntu Desktop are still fixed for security flaws)
[07:47] <sudorm> guiverc, what is the standard way to find a particular file for a particular release?
[07:47] <sudorm> example: I'd like to compare sources.list for 18.04 18.04.5 and 20.04, for learning purposes
[07:47] <sudorm> I found it here for 18.04: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/rhuancarlos/c4d3c0cf4550db5326dca8edf1e76800/raw/480bc68edae51e704114b0f4e256f543f25961af/sources.list
[07:47] <sudorm> but it's not really a trusted source
[07:47] <sudorm> is there a way to find a particular file for any release?
[07:48] <sudorm> like a (git?) repo for all files of all releases?
[07:49] <guiverc> ubuntu ISOs are built from packages; wherever you find the ISO you'll also find a .manifest file which contains the packages enclosed on the ISO (not all may be installed; depending on what options the user uses..)
[07:50] <guiverc> packages can change between releases; so files within those packages can vary (eg. 18.04 will use freenode; it was current on release time; 21.10 or 20.04.3 will contain libera)
[07:50] <sudorm> guiverc, good to know! and for exemple /etc/apt/sources.list comes from which package?
[07:52] <guiverc> the file is built at install; as the installer doesn't know where in the world you are until install time; so cannot know which country mirror is appropriate etc
[07:53] <nonet> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "impish" 21.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q8300  @ 2.50GHz (2.00GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.5 GiB Total (1.9 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (1.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 11.3 GB / 56.8 GB (45.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller • Uptime
[07:53] <nonet> : 8h 47m 13s
[07:54] <sudorm> guiverc, oh I see, so this might be the reason for my problems: when I installed 18.04.5, I didn't check certain checkboxes to accept all repos
[07:54] <sudorm> whereas in my previous 18.04 install i checked all of them
[07:56] <guiverc> I'm aware of country (mirror) differnces with xubuntu installs; I'm not sure it has differences that will impact you - unless you opted for a "free software only" which may; sorry I forget; but those options are rarely used but available on 18.04 more so than 20.04
[07:58] <sudorm> guiverc, #deb-src  lines are unused since # is for comments, is that right? as I see all deb-src begin by # i thought maybe it is a custom syntax
[07:58] <guiverc> # is comment yes (varies on the file; some use ";" for comments etc depending on background of programmer) - which disables the source
[08:00] <sudorm> guiverc, yes that's what I know for all other files, but I thought maybe there was a special syntax for sources.list because I saw deb-src always was # ;)
[08:02] <sudorm> guiverc, last thing: why    main *restricted* in sources.list? why the restricted?
[08:03] <guiverc> best if you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:04] <guiverc> "Restricted - Proprietary drivers for devices. "  but it'll explain more
[08:04] <guiverc> the word restricted relates to license, not open-source code
[08:05] <guiverc> (or if open-source; license is restricted in some way)
[08:05] <sudorm> oh thanks for this link, it helped me!
[08:06] <sudorm> So does "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic main restricted" mean
[08:06] <sudorm> from bionic take repo main AND restricted?
[08:07] <sudorm> could we do "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic main restricted universe multiverse"  and have all of them in one line?
[08:09] <oerheks> why, xubuntu 18.04 is eol..
[08:10] <sudorm> oerheks, i mean, the general principle of listing everything in one line
[08:10] <sudorm> instead of having a sources.list of 50 lines
[08:10] <oerheks> i would not touch that sources list manually, use the update tool to control
[08:11] <guiverc> I prefer fewer lines myself; but release-upgrade tools work best if single line (easier for enable/disable in GUI tools by adding # to start of line etc)
[08:11] <oerheks> there are no other added, those get an instance in sources.list.d/ folder
[08:15] <sudorm> I just explored the /etc/apt/  files during the last minutes
[08:16] <sudorm> I think I would prefer just one file sources.list, KISS principle, and nothing else, no "sudo add-apt-repository ..."  that create new files


[23:48] <CyberGabber> Paineless: and this: http://www.commonitman.com/2009/12/sync-blackberry-on-ubunty-904.html
[23:48] <marie-louise> Dunkirk: http://tacticalvim.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/disable-gdm-ready-sound-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic/ this other user sent me that
[23:48] <marie-louise> fbianconi: thank you
[23:48] <fabien> Dunkirk : Okay ;) But I can's fix this small bug...
[23:49] <aeiou> Dunkirk, i want users to be able to move files, compile software etc all in their home directories
[23:49] <aeiou> just i want to secure the rest of the system - would this be possible with rssh?
[23:49] <Dunkirk> marie-louise: Way cool! Thanks for that!
[23:49] <Dunkirk> aeiou: Then that's just permissions.
[23:49] <marie-louise> Dunkirk: thank fbianconi ;)
[23:50] <rohith> What version of Ubuntu supports ati radeon mobility x300 ( I want to use desktop effects)?
[23:50] <Nallep_> how do I disable the graphics driver?
[23:50] <aeiou> Dunkirk, would ACL give me better security compared to posix?
[23:50] <Paineless> CyberGabber~ thanks
[23:51] <Dunkirk> aeiou: Well, ACL's are really complicated, and probably not worth the hassle. There's really a lot of subtle power in the standard Unix permissions.
[23:51] <Younder> aeiou: well you can chroot. also set /home and /var on seperate partions as that simplifies soe things. also set local stuff in /uer/local so it doesn't disturb the standard updates. That makes the system easier to maintain
[23:51] <dr3mro> hi please can any one help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8922754
[23:51] <marie-louise> alright, goodnight Dunkirk and fbianconi!
[23:51] <Younder> aeiou: inparticular you can then easelly backup with dump
[23:52] <Dunkirk> aeiou: If you want people to be able to compile software, there's only so much "locking down" you can do, as compiling software is going to require access to lots and lots of programs, scratch space, system resources (like memory and filehandles), etc.
[23:52] <Younder> aeiou: I assume only /avr /home /usr/local are interesting to back up. Of cource you should have a ubuntu CD of your current version as well
[23:52] <Younder> var
[23:53] <Koltor> I am running the x64 version of Ubuntu 9.10. For the past 2 days(haven't installed any new programs within the same time frame). I've started to encounter problems after I lock my computer, (ctrl+alt+l), then come back and unlock it. After unlocking, I am unable to open any programs. Any ideas?
[23:53] <Younder> aeiou: Having dump on a seperate partion prevents DOS attacks from overwriting your system area if log files get really large
[23:54] <Dunkirk> aeiou: On a related idea, what about creating a virtual machine in something like KVM or VirtualBox (I use both for various things), and letting them "have at it" in the VM?
[23:54] <Younder> aeiou, also check /etc/limis for setting user quota, max processes, disk space, restict acess time etc
[23:54] <aeiou> Dunkirk, i was thinking it would be a lot more  performant to not run VMs
[23:54] <Younder> aeiou, clever use of groups simplifies things
[23:55] <Dunkirk> aeiou: You'd be surprised at how fast VM's run, especially Linux-on-Linux with KVM.
[23:55] <aeiou> these guys give ssh with their hosting http://www.webfaction.com/
[23:55] <Dunkirk> aeiou: But you're right, there's a tradeoff. It's just not as much as you'd think.
[23:55] <aeiou> so i know its definately possbible to do securely
[23:56] <aeiou> Dunkirk, that would mean each user running their own apache etc
[23:56] <Dunkirk> aeiou: They're probably "jailing" like Younder is talking about. There's much less to setup for just a web server, as opposed to compiler chains.
[23:56] <rohith> Please someone help me... What version of Ubuntu supports ati radeon mobility x300 (I want to use Desktop Effects)?
[23:56] <Dunkirk> aeiou: But, yea, same basic idea.
[23:56] <aeiou> Dunkirk, they arent jailing, you can see everything - just files are locked down
[23:57] <aeiou> and you can compile your own programs in your home directory
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[23:57] <vasilis> k gamw ta paidia
[23:57] <Nallep_> I just install ubuntu 9.10 on a compaq presario 900 laptop, when I boot up I just get a black screen and nothing else happens, I'm currently booted into recovery mode root shell, how do I fix it so I can sue my computer?  I don't care much about hardware acceleration, just want to be able to use it.
[23:59] <viliny_> hey!
[23:59] <dr3mro> hi please can any one help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8922754
[23:59] <viliny_> i just got the 2.6.33 kernel installed from ubuntu kernels -> where do i find a nvidia driver to go along with this?