[07:35] <slavik> Madpilot: like !info but to show the package that provides a file
[07:35] <dli> Quan-Time, you need to set up the nvidia binary driver
[07:35] <Quan-Time> someone gave me a command before, glxinfo |grep somethin somethin
[07:35] <Madpilot> slavik, hmm... !file?
[07:35] <slavik> !nvidia
[07:35] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <slavik> heh
[07:35] <slavik> !file mysql.h
[07:35] <cobelloy> so where do I find a wine channel then?
[07:35] <Quan-Time> binary driver you say...
[07:35] <dli> Quan-Time, yes
[07:35] <slavik> says package :(
[07:36] <Madpilot> cobelloy, #winehq
[07:36] <blind> Thanks, Madpilot.
[07:36] <slavik> !bit
[07:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik
[07:36] <dli> Quan-Time, to get full glx support and 3D
[07:36] <slavik> !bot
[07:36] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:36] <Android_D> !file mysql.h
[07:36] <Android_D> !info mysql.h
[07:36] <Quan-Time> uh ok.. i did taht before.. but yer, i have an idea.. ill try somethin...
[07:36] <Fujitsu> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Quan-Time> might even get twinview working :)
[07:36] <intelikey> i have a panel tht i want to remove... but i don't see any way to move or remove it...  ?
[07:36] <slavik> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Android_D> !find mysql.h
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Wait a moment!
[07:37] <Fujitsu> ubotu's updating, and will take a while to search.
[07:37] <Android_D> :( sorry
[07:37] <cobelloy> o-one is answering there
[07:37] <poningru> stop
[07:37] <poningru> jeez
[07:37] <luciano> the middlemouse doesn't work in my firefox 1.5.can anbody help me ?
[07:37] <Madpilot> folks - the bot can talk to you in PM if you want to hunt for things!
[07:37] <cobelloy> i mean no-one
[07:37] <poningru> cobelloy: follow what Madpilot said
[07:37] <poningru> #winehq
[07:37] <poningru> oh sorry
[07:37] <poningru> nm
[07:37] <dli> Quan-Time, if you couldn't get it work, you may try the driver from nvidia.com
[07:37] <cobelloy> yes - no-one is answering there
[07:38] <Quan-Time> i have (had) nvidia-glx and im swapping to nvidia-settings
[07:38] <Quan-Time> its one or the other it seems...
[07:38] <dli> Quan-Time, you need the nvidia kernel module
[07:38] <cobelloy> there are 105 ppl listed but none are talking
[07:38] <cobelloy> at winehq
[07:38] <Quan-Time> dli, explain please
[07:38] <odin_> does anybody know how to use cdrdao?
[07:39] <poningru> yeah I see that
[07:39] <dli> Quan-Time, find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 linux-restricted-modules-k7 if you are running the 686 or k7 kernel) in the list and mark it for installation the same way as before.
[07:39] <cius> how would I go about setting the monitor refresh rate when in gdm?
[07:39] <dli> Quan-Time, that's from the nvidia wiki
[07:39] <poningru> odin_: just use a front end for cdrdao
[07:39] <TeamCanada|Silen> how do I change a user's group?
[07:40] <slavik> rofl, gigabyte kt400
[07:40] <poningru> ...
[07:40] <dli> cius, I think you can set them in gnome after login, or in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:40] <odin_> pongingru: like what?
[07:40] <poningru> like gnome-baker, k3b etc.
[07:40] <Android_D> I think I need to get  mysql-devel, which synaptic doesn't have
[07:41] <cius> dli, I changed it in my screen resolution dialogue and made sure to check the "make these the default settings" box, my desktop is now fine, but gdm is still messed up
[07:41] <Quan-Time> dli, yer i have that
[07:41] <Quan-Time> 2 secs restarting X
[07:41] <slavik> libmysql++-dev
[07:42] <odin_> pongingru:  but I don't want to use cdrdao to burn a cd, but to rip an image cd; does k3b have that capability as well?
[07:42] <dli> cius, gdm, okay, do that in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:42] <TeamCanada|Silen> !tell TeamCanada|Silen about grounding
[07:42] <poningru> what do you mean rip an image cd?
[07:42] <poningru> odin_: as in take the images from a cd?
[07:42] <odin_> poningru:  yeah
[07:43] <GTroy> !xgl
[07:43] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:43] <poningru> what format is the cd in? or does it just have images in the cd?
[07:43] <odin_> poningru:  no, not images; the cd is an image cd, like one made by a .iso or .img image file
[07:43] <poningru> oh gotcha
[07:43] <poningru> hehe gotcha
[07:43] <sn9> odin_: all CDs are image CDs
[07:44] <odin_> poningru:  anyways, I want to rip the files off into .bin format
[07:44] <fredcox> ok
[07:44] <poningru> odin_: hold on I remember a prog
[07:44] <fredcox> i am crazy
[07:44] <fredcox> but
[07:44] <fid> Can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat?
[07:44] <poningru> let me try and find it
[07:44] <fredcox> i am like linux
[07:44] <poningru> fid: chatzilla?
[07:44] <slavik> fid: gaim
[07:44] <ic56> TeamCanada|Silen: "sudo vipw" and change the 4th colon-separated field to the desired value.
[07:44] <sn9> odin_: cdrdao will do that
[07:44] <odin_> poningru:  just so long as it isn't kiso, I've spent the last hour trying to install that sucker
[07:44] <luisito> fid, try konversation
[07:45] <fid> hrmmm
[07:45] <_jason> fid: irssi if you want terminal
[07:45] <fid> ya if i wanted terminal i would rock bitchX
[07:45] <fid> hah
[07:45] <odin_> sn9:  yeah, I know, but how?  I can't figure out how to use it
[07:45] <sn9> poningru: no way chatzilla can ever beat xchat
[07:45] <luisito> fid, but I think Xchat do the work very well
[07:45] <fid> ya xchat is ok
[07:45] <fredcox> Xchat is broken
[07:45] <fredcox> BitchX is always
[07:45] <fid> I wish they would have made a version of XircOn for linux
[07:45] <fredcox> full
[07:46] <fredcox> the best = bitchx
[07:46] <fid> hah
[07:46] <odin_> sn9:  I tried using cdrdao read-cd, but then it asked for a missing toc-file
[07:46] <poningru> odin_: I think it is gnome-baker
[07:46] <sn9> odin_: you have to name the file
[07:46] <poningru> hold on
[07:47] <odin_> sn9:  read-cd is suppose to default to data.bin
[07:47] <romulo> yo
[07:47] <romulo> =)
[07:47] <sn9> odin_: no, that's for the .bin file
[07:47] <fredcox> putz
[07:47] <sn9> odin_: .bin is useless without .cue or .toc
[07:47] <fredcox> crazys
[07:48] <Cooner750> How do I change the resolution of the login manager screen? It seems to be stuck at a 60Hz refresh
[07:48] <crunchyfish> i've been trying to install ubuntu for three days now :(
[07:48] <poningru> whats the default cd burning software supposed to be for breezy?
[07:48] <fredcox> i am very crazy for lainux
[07:48] <romulo> poningru, nautilus cdburner, k3b or gnomebaker i believe =P
[07:48] <fredcox> muito louco
[07:49] <dli> crunchyfish, oh, you can get help here
[07:49] <odin_> sn9:  okay, does it matter what filename do I use, or just anything.toc?
[07:49] <poningru> fredcox: we get it, you can go yell about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <poningru> hmm
[07:49] <fredcox> oks
[07:49] <fredcox> ok
[07:49] <sn9> odin_: whatever. it's the .bin filename that matters
[07:49] <odin_> sn9: k, thanks
[07:49] <crunchyfish> i've downloaded both the 32 and 64 bit versions, ran md5 checks to make sure they were intact. i burned the 64 bit version once and the 32 bit version three times at speeds ranging from 1x to 40x.
[07:50] <fredcox> thanks
[07:50] <fredcox> sorry
[07:50] <crunchyfish> when i try to install from any of those it will copy the files, reboot, and then freeze between 70-80%
[07:50] <sn9> odin_: .bin files cannot be renamed
[07:50] <dr_claw> what is a good fire wall for breezy
[07:50] <poningru> np
[07:50] <poningru> its cool
[07:50] <crunchyfish> when i try to install with acpi turned off it says it cannot copy all the files
[07:50] <fredcox> i am like k3b
[07:50] <fredcox> the best
[07:50] <crunchyfish> i downloaded the dapper drake beta and tried booting the live cd to install from there, but as soon as the desktop comes up the pc freezes for a few moments and then reboots
[07:50] <Auska> ok Quan-Time here on wifes computer.. that didnt work
[07:50] <romulo> fredcox, i like k3b, but prefer gnomebaker
[07:50] <crunchyfish> i tried that in graphical safe mode and regular
[07:50] <dli> crunchyfish, after it freezes, can you reboot the new installation from hard drive?
[07:51] <Auska> [EE]  nvidia unknown device..
[07:51] <poningru> crunchyfish: do you already have breazy installed?
[07:51] <poningru> if so why not just do an update?
[07:51] <cius> dli, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixed my problem, thanks
[07:51] <poningru> nalioth arr?
[07:51] <romulo> Auska, the problem i think is just your drivers for nvidia
[07:51] <fredcox> yes
[07:51] <crunchyfish> when i try to do that, dli, it says that the installation didn't finish and suggests i try it again. i found my way to a command prompt once by accident but i had no idea what to do from there
[07:51] <crunchyfish> no poningru
[07:51] <crunchyfish> that's what i wanted to do :(
[07:51] <poningru> oh nm
[07:51] <fredcox> nvidia funfs coool
[07:51] <romulo> Auska, you should install from console and install manually the nvidia drivers, the updated ones on repositories
[07:51] <Auska> so i need to find my active device name and update my xorg.conf file ??
[07:51] <dli> cius, it's a magic command you should remember for good
[07:52] <fid_> yay for bitchx
[07:52] <romulo> Auska, im supposing u have only one vga card
[07:52] <sn9> crunchyfish: apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[07:52] <dr_claw> How do i unpack a tar?
[07:52] <romulo> Auska,how many do you own?
[07:52] <poningru> crunchyfish: you can install without booting into the live cd
[07:52] <poningru> crunchyfish: in the menu there is an option to just install
[07:52] <Cooner750> anyone?
[07:52] <romulo> Auska, sorry
[07:52] <crunchyfish> oh, i guess i should try that then. i anticipated i'd have the same problem i had with breezy during text-only installation
[07:52] <romulo> Auska,it was not for you, it was for crunchyfish
[07:52] <fredcox> you are experts in ubuntu
[07:52] <Auska> romulo: well, i got 2 cards in that machine, 3 monitors
[07:52] <poningru> Cooner750: sorry missed you but can you repeat?
[07:53] <romulo> Auska, wow
[07:53] <dli> crunchyfish, could be some filesystem problem, did you try another file system?
[07:53] <Auska> i HAD it working, but glxgears was saying 11fps.. and games were super slow
[07:53] <sn9> Cooner750: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:53] <romulo> Auska, well i dunnno waht your really rpoblem is, care to repeat?
[07:53] <crunchyfish> dli, do you mean other than ext3? i've just been letting the installer autopartition and format a blank space on my drive
[07:54] <romulo> Auska,nvidia not working?
[07:54] <Cooner750> again? I already did that once
[07:54] <dli> crunchyfish, it happens sometimes, I suggest you to manually (or semi-manually) part the disk, and choose jfs/reiserfs instead of ext3
[07:55] <Auska> i changed from (in synapsis) nvidia-glx to nvidia-setting (changing uninstalled the glx one) and when i went to startx it cant find the device, says nvidia is not valid (i assume its reading the name in xorg,conf)
[07:55] <crunchyfish> thanks dli, i'll give that a try right now
[07:55] <dli> crunchyfish, not sure whether it would work, but it worth a try
[07:55] <dr_claw> How do i transfer mp3s from one computer to the next?
[07:55] <romulo> anyone here knows if the solution for "no inittab file found" message does have a good solution and if just replace the /etc/inittab works?
[07:55] <Auska> so need to find the exact device name, and i can fix it.. just dont know how to list / find it
[07:55] <romulo> Auska,install xorg-driver-nvidia i believe
[07:55] <romulo> and it should be all fine
[07:56] <Auska> umm, i dont get what you mean by that
[07:56] <Auska> install ?? apt-get ?
[07:56] <romulo> Auska, try sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-nvidia
[07:56] <poningru> Auska: yeah
[07:56] <romulo> Auska, using what? breezy, dapper?
[07:56] <Auska> gotcha.. ill try.
[07:56] <Auska> dapper
[07:56] <romulo> so it just seems that
[07:56] <dli> romulo, that's very bad :( check whether /etc/inittab is really missing
[07:56] <fid_> is dapper the beta version?
[07:56] <fid_> like the newest beta?
[07:57] <romulo> i believe you will also need the kernel module for nvidia
[07:57] <romulo> dli, i think fsck removed it
[07:57] <romulo> after i fsck'ed the disk, it didnt boot anymore
[07:57] <romulo> im on the winblows install now
[07:57] <Auska> "failed to load module nvidia. module does not exist"
[07:57] <romulo> cause i need to solve some personal problems first, wich requires the pc working
[07:57] <dli> romulo, you can boot livecd, run apt-get with chroot :)
[07:57] <romulo> Auska, the module nvidia should be in kernel package
[07:58] <romulo> dli, yep
[07:58] <romulo> dli will do
[07:58] <romulo> but cant now
[07:58] <xxmel0nxx> hi
[07:58] <romulo> Auska, try apt-cache search nvidia
[07:58] <Cooner750> Why wont my 'default sound device' setting stay set?
[07:58] <Auska> kk, how i install / get it ?
[07:58] <Auska> romulo
[07:58] <romulo> Auska, see if it shows something about linux-image- your -kernel-version and modules
[07:58] <tritium> Auska: do you have linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed?
[07:58] <dli> romulo, I think the package is init-scripts
[07:58] <romulo> to check your kernel version, perform uname -r
[07:58] <sn9> dli: /etc/inittab isn't part of any pkg
[07:58] <romulo> yeah thats one
[07:58] <cobelloy> hey - I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears
[07:59] <Auska> tritium yer i do (from memory)
[07:59] <xxmel0nxx> any one can help me? I can't reboot my ubuntu box, it ask for  root password each time I try to reboot
[07:59] <romulo> sn9, anyway if i boot a live cd i can copy inittab from there
[07:59] <cobelloy> I had a nautilu script to open root terminal in a folder too that doesnt work now
[07:59] <dli> sn9, really? ask for a copy here :) you can send him yours
[07:59] <slavik> xxmel0nxx: do you sudo reboot?
[07:59] <tritium> Auska: which architecture?  What's the output of "uname -r"?
[07:59] <sn9> i can't dcc from this machine
[07:59] <Auska> 2.6.15-21.386
[08:00] <slavik> dapper
[08:00] <cobelloy> hey - I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, is restricted for 15-21.386 installed?
[08:00] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: sudo reboot, or in gnome
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, try sudo modprobe nvidia and watch what ahppens
[08:00] <dli> sn9, it's a text file, you can use pastebin
[08:00] <Auska> romulo: i think, how i check ?
[08:00] <tritium> Auska: sudo apt-get install linux-386 to be sure
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, if nothing happens, check the tail of your dmesg
[08:00] <romulo> Auska, check the package name in apt and try to install it
[08:00] <slavik> xxmel0nxx: what happens when you do that in terminal?
[08:00] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: it always ask for root pasword after switching to runlevel 6 and sending the  TERM signa
[08:01] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: same
[08:01] <slavik> hmm, interesting
[08:01] <Auska> tritium: already latest ver
[08:01] <xxmel0nxx> slavik: I can halt without a problem, but I can't reboot if I don't type the password, it is the same as If I swhitch to single user
[08:01] <slavik> just press enter
[08:02] <Auska> tail of dmesg ? i dont get it
[08:02] <slavik> well, sudo always asks for your password
[08:02] <tritium> Auska: then you should have the nvidia module, as linux-386 depends on (and hence installs) linux-restricted-modules-386
[08:02] <cobelloy> I cant open a root terminal anymore - it starts then dissapears, can anyone help me?
[08:02] <slavik> Auska: where do you find a tail on an animal?
[08:02] <slavik> cobelloy: you don't need a root terminal, use sudo
[08:02] <romulo> tritium, it can be blacklisted
[08:02] <romulo> =P
[08:02] <Auska> is said animal a worm or a snake ?
[08:02] <sn9> dli, romulo: http://pastebin.com/689854
[08:02] <dj-fu> sudo doesn't always ask for a password, it caches for a few minutes, it can also be configured to not ask for a password (i.e; giving your user seamless admin privs)
[08:03] <slavik> Auska: a four legged animal
[08:03] <cobelloy> thats not the pont
[08:03] <romulo> Auska, to find a tail on animal, cat animal | tail :D
[08:03] <dli> romulo, does ubuntu have the package, sys-apps/sysvinit ?
[08:03] <tritium> romulo: what's your point?
[08:03] <cobelloy> point
[08:03] <slavik> romulo: rofl
[08:03] <slavik> Auska: tail is always in the back ...
[08:03] <romulo> tritium, my point is, it could be not modprob'ing the nvidia module because it could be blacklisted
[08:03] <cobelloy> slavik - it worked yesterday, now it wont come up
[08:03] <slavik> cobelloy: use sudo ...
[08:03] <Auska> i know that.. was a joke.
[08:03] <tritium> romulo: he said he couldn't modprobe it manually
[08:03] <slavik> cobelloy: you shouldn't need a root terminal
[08:03] <cobelloy> I don't think it is the only problem
[08:04] <dj-fu> slavik, don't try and bully him, some people prefer root terminals
[08:04] <romulo> thanks dli
[08:04] <slavik> Auska: what do you think a tail of a text would be?
[08:04] <cobelloy> no I don't but my system is broken...
[08:04] <dli> romulo, you found the package?
[08:04] <cobelloy> wether I want to use it or not it should work
[08:04] <slavik> dj-fu: in ubuntu, there is no root ... much like the spoon ;)
[08:04] <intelikey> dj-fu> sudo doesn't always ask for a password, it caches for a few minutes, it can also be configured to not ask for a password (i.e; giving your user seamless admin privs) <--- that would be the PERFECT argument against sudo   imo.
[08:04] <romulo> dli wich one?
[08:04] <_jason> cobelloy: pastebin the script so we can see what it does please
[08:04] <dli> romulo, sysvinit
[08:04] <cobelloy> nothing takes place
[08:04] <slavik> intelikey: 5min I think the docs said :D
[08:04] <Auska> umm, i just cant startx it throws [EE]  failed to load module "nvidia" (module dosent exist, 0)
[08:04] <dj-fu> slavik, there IS root. I have enabled it. I also have my user configured so it doesn't ask for a sudo password.
[08:04] <slavik> Auska: you need to install the module
[08:04] <_jason> cobelloy: I mean the source, so we can read it
[08:04] <cobelloy> I click root terminal, it thinks for a moment, then nothing
[08:04] <tritium> Auska: what does "modinfo nvidia" say?
[08:05] <romulo> Auska, dmesg | tail and pastebin that please
[08:05] <dj-fu> intelikey, seamless admin privs are not always good - i break things because I can fix them
[08:05] <slavik> dj-fu: as far as ubuntu is concerned, there is no root ...
[08:05] <romulo> after a modprobe nvidia
[08:05] <cobelloy> i dont understand - how do I get it?
[08:05] <dj-fu> slavik, excuse me? I run ubuntu. I have root. it's about choice
[08:05] <dr_claw> How do i transfer mp3s from one computer to the next?
[08:05] <romulo> i use root too
[08:05] <tritium> Auska: don't paste it here.  If you get info back, then just append "nvidia" to the end of /etc/modules
[08:05] <romulo> hate sudo
[08:05] <slavik> dj-fu: nevermind then ... you don't get the point
[08:05] <intelikey> dj-fu ever uninstall passwd on a system ?
[08:05] <_jason> cobelloy: should be in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[08:05] <gpm> hey everyone, i'm trying to install clearlooks-quicksilver (from http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1213), but when i select the theme, it just turns to the default theme. is there a newer version of clearlooks i need to get? i'm on dapper
[08:06] <Auska> tritium: it throws a whole lot of parm; NVreg_stuffstuff
[08:06] <dj-fu> intelikey, haven't tried that one, lol.
[08:06] <tritium> Auska: good!  Just do as I mentioned above
[08:06] <dj-fu> slavik, please, explain your point to me
[08:06] <romulo> Auska, looks like the module is ok.
[08:06] <romulo> must be missing the xorg module.
[08:06] <romulo> nto the kernel one
[08:06] <cobelloy> oh you mean my open as root script?
[08:06] <romulo> Auska, installed xorg-driver-nvidia?
[08:06] <tritium> it's probably just not loaded, Auska
[08:06] <slavik> dj-fu: ubuntu is not gentoo ... ubuntu is for users, not hackers. users shouldn't need root
[08:06] <dj-fu> cobelloy, alt+f2, gksudo gnome-terminal
[08:07] <MistaED> gpm: get a clearlooks-cairo deb package
[08:07] <tritium> Auska: lsmod | grep nvidia please
[08:07] <cobelloy> root terminal doesnt open from the menu either though
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: yes
[08:07] <linlin> what kind of software raid does ubuntu have?
[08:07] <linlin> good?
[08:07] <dj-fu> slavik, users have the choice. that's the point of running linux
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:07] <romulo> tritium,maybe the module has been compiled with a diff gcc version than kernel too, if is that, it wont load, but will modinfo
[08:07] <cobelloy> it is not just the script
[08:07] <cobelloy> hoary
[08:07] <cobelloy> still waiting for breezy
[08:07] <jbzz> I am having a problem with the mouse while using the pgAdmin3 query tool , PostgreSQL 8.0.3 and Ubuntu 5.10   Keyboard sometimes unresponsive, mouse changes to plus sign and 90 degree bracket in upper left but it will not 'click' anything.
[08:07] <tritium> romulo: we'll see
[08:07] <romulo> tritium,yeh
[08:07] <slavik> dj-fu: windowsxp gives the same choice and it isn't as difficult about it as ubuntu ... and you know what happens
[08:07] <_jason> cobelloy: does synaptic work?
[08:07] <Auska> tritium: theres three entries
[08:08] <cobelloy> the script worked yesterday and so did root terminal from the menu
[08:08] <cobelloy> yes it does
[08:08] <romulo> Auska, theres one that is just nvidia?
[08:08] <Auska> yes the first one
[08:08] <tritium> Auska: modinfo nvidia | grep vermagic, please
[08:08] <romulo> Auska, so the module is loaded
[08:08] <slavik> my cousin's system got infected with a spam bot because windows doesn't care for users having root access
[08:08] <romulo> tritium, maybe nv is loaded too, the fb
[08:08] <dj-fu> slavik, I understand completely, but bullying people and telling them that there is no root is just uncool
[08:08] <intelikey> cobelloy still waiting for breezy ?    huh ?
[08:08] <_jason> cobelloy: well you need to either paste the command that the root terminal shortcut uses or pastebin the source of the nautilus script.  otheriwse, it is pretty hard to help
[08:09] <cobelloy> yeah, only ordered it recently...
[08:09] <tritium> please take the root vs. sudo debate to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:09] <Auska> vermagic is the current kernel version
[08:09] <tritium> Auska: what about gcc version?
[08:09] <slavik> dj-fu: but otherwise, how do you get people not to use it?
[08:09] <dj-fu> lol, nod. I'll drop it
[08:09] <slavik> bah, fine
[08:09] <dj-fu> slavik, go talk to yourself about it in #ubuntu-offtopic. toodles
[08:09] <cobelloy> how do I get the command that the menu entry uses?
[08:09] <_jason> cobelloy: do you have the menu editor?
[08:09] <ramless> HI, i try to remove evolution... it requires to remove ubuntu desktop... it is normal??
[08:10] <Auska> gcc version? what do you mean?
[08:10] <slavik> tritium: why do you stop my arguments especially when I am winning?
[08:10] <gpm> MistaED: any clue where i could get a clearlooks-cairo deb? or build one?
[08:10] <slavik> ramless: yes, but it is not a good idea to remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <tritium> slavik: I didn't.  I just asked that it move to another channel
[08:10] <cobelloy> probably not...
[08:10] <dli> cobelloy, you can try a menu editor
[08:10] <slavik> tritium: but you know it won't :P
[08:10] <tritium> ramless: if you do that, just remember to reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade to dapper
[08:10] <intelikey> gnome menu editor   and look see   or you could drag and drop the menu itom to desktop and then right click permissions and look see what it is ...
[08:10] <dj-fu> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which depends on all of the packages in the ubuntu-desktop environment, it's safe to remove if youw ant to remove evolution
[08:11] <Auska> tritium: gcc version? what do you mean?
[08:11] <dj-fu> see `apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop`
[08:11] <ramless> slavik: yes, i know... i use thunderbird...
[08:11] <romulo> Auska, perform gcc --version
[08:11] <slavik> ramless: no need to remove evolution :)
[08:11] <tritium> Auska: from the "modinfo nvidia | grep vermagic"
[08:11] <tritium> that tells you which compiler it was compiled with
[08:11] <tritium> e.g., gcc-4.0
[08:11] <romulo> tritium,thanks for the info, didnt know that
[08:11] <jtibau> setting up an installation party and need a local repository... need some help please
[08:11] <ramless> i don't need 2 email client...
[08:11] <Auska> tritium: 4.0.3
[08:12] <tritium> romulo: :)
[08:12] <slavik> ramless: evolution has more stuff though I think
[08:12] <tritium> Auska: did you compile that yourself?
[08:12] <meshe> anyone know why my network cards (3 of them e100, via-rhine and tulip) won't work in breezy, but will in knoppix and windows?
[08:12] <Auska> tritium: no?
[08:12] <ramless> but it has not newsgroup client
[08:12] <intelikey> ramless you have at least two email clients already
[08:12] <romulo> Auska, installed the nvidia's one from site or the ubuntu one from apt?
[08:12] <dli> meshe, modprobe already?
[08:12] <dj-fu> ramless, it's safe to remove.
[08:13] <tritium> Auska: I'm running dapper, and my nvidia kernel module was compiled with gcc-4.0
[08:13] <meshe> dli: i did modprobe the modules
[08:13] <Auska> romulo: from synapsis
[08:13] <jtibau> anybody know how to setup a local ubuntu repository???
[08:13] <dli> meshe, work now?
[08:13] <meshe> dli: no
[08:13] <cobelloy> what menu editor can I get?
[08:13] <slavik> jtibau: try searching google ... setting up repo is more advanced than the purpose of this channel, I think
[08:13] <crunchyfish> i'm seconds away from knowing if reiserfs is going to work dli :)
[08:14] <meshe> the cards are listed in ifconfig as running and i statically assigned addresses
[08:14] <intelikey> kmenu  :)
[08:14] <dli> jtibau, I run apt-proxy, not a repository, but enough to provide proxy
[08:14] <slavik> cobelloy: there is alacarte ...
[08:14] <dli> crunchyfish, good :)
[08:14] <meshe> but they are all dropping packets massively
[08:14] <cobelloy> is it in repos
[08:14] <dli> crunchyfish, did you change the partitioning also?
[08:14] <jtibau> dli: I need to make it work withouth an internet connection
[08:14] <meshe> i actually only once got about half a dozen ping responses
[08:14] <dli> meshe, check what's in dmesg, dmesg|less
[08:14] <Madpilot> cobelloy, try right-clicking on your Applications menu - you should get a "Edit Menus" entry...
[08:14] <cius> why is it that in order to remove ekiga using synaptic it tells me I have to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[08:15] <cobelloy> it is not listed on synaptic...
[08:15] <dli> meshe, double check, "lspci", "ifconfig -a"
[08:15] <dj-fu> cius, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[08:15] <jtibau> dli: I read that apt-proxy needs an internet connection anyway
[08:15] <cobelloy> only get option to add launcher to panel
[08:15] <crunchyfish> in what way, dli? i'm installing to a 40gb hard drive. half of it is partitioned fat32, 19.1-ish gigs are reiserfs, and 852mb is swap
[08:15] <dli> jtibau, I see
[08:15] <dj-fu> it's safe to remove, if you don't want all the packages provided by it
[08:15] <crunchyfish> but those are the ratios i've been using this whole time
[08:15] <crunchyfish> would that matter?
[08:15] <meshe> jas, popping back to breezy
[08:15] <jtibau> dli: I've been trying to do something like in the debian repository howto
[08:16] <dli> jtibau, debian provides a way to generate a debmirror
[08:16] <jason12> I can't get the Synaptic Package Manager or apt-get to work on a (20 min. old) new install
[08:16] <cius> what if I don't want to remove the entire ubuntu-desktop, but just ekiga?
[08:16] <jtibau> dli: but for some reason I don't have a dpkg-scanpackages
[08:16] <dli> jtibau, if you want to follow the debian way, read docs from the debian FAI project
[08:16] <slavik> cius: ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually provide anything ... it only has lots of dependancies
[08:17] <jtibau> dli: is there an ubuntu way?
[08:17] <cius> slavik, so removing it doesn't actually remove anything from the system?
[08:17] <dli> jtibau, "apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search dpkg-scanpackages"
[08:17] <jtibau> dli: or an easy way? hehe
[08:17] <_jason> jason12: paste the output of the command 'groups' using applications > accessories > terminal please
[08:17] <hyperstream> how do i play bin/cue movies?
[08:17] <dli> jtibau, the debian way should simply work for ubuntu
[08:17] <romulo> hyperstream, use gmplayer
[08:17] <dli> hyperstream, mplayer is the most robust one
[08:17] <romulo> to do that
[08:17] <romulo> dli =)
[08:18] <hyperstream> xine wont play it ?
[08:18] <intelikey> !vlc
[08:18] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[08:18] <_jason> cobelloy: smeg should be in hoary-backports.  But the easiest method is dragging the shortcut to your desktop and right clicking > properties
[08:18] <romulo> hyperstream, afaik, it wont
[08:18] <_jason> as someone said
[08:18] <Auska> so after all that, any way to fix my prob ? it happened when i changed from nvidia-glx to nvidia-setting in synapsis.. it had to remove one. thats the reason i cant get into X again
[08:18] <cowboyfeng> hello
[08:18] <hyperstream> thanks
[08:18] <cobelloy> I just started a root terminal from a user terminal, sudo gnome-terminal, why wont it work from the menu??
[08:18] <LinuxMan> :)
[08:18] <crunchyfish> dli: it's still installing but it's gone further than it ever has before
[08:18] <romulo> Auska, reinstarll nvidia-glx then
[08:18] <sn9> hyperstream: .bin/.cue are not movies
[08:18] <_jason> jason12: did you do an expert install?
[08:19] <jason12> jason@Phoenix:~$ groups
[08:19] <jason12> jason adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[08:19] <jason12> yes
[08:19] <cobelloy> smeg isnt there, and I cant drag any launchers from the menu to the desktop.
[08:19] <_jason> jason12: so you have access to root then?
[08:19] <dli> crunchyfish, it's possible, it's a software bug, but also possible you need to check badblocks with your hdd
[08:19] <jtibau> dli: I also read about an apt-Move... but it said that I neede a PGP signature or something... plus the howto said it was for a CD repository... I would like to use a web server instead....
[08:19] <meshe> dli: in dmesg i'm getting "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out"
[08:19] <crunchyfish> nevermind, i think it's locked up at 77%
[08:19] <Auska> cheers for help
[08:20] <crunchyfish> dli, it was actually doing this on a different drive i had in this same pc
[08:20] <jason12> I "think" so ...
[08:20] <crunchyfish> but i can check for that
[08:20] <intelikey> jason12 you're such a groupie...
[08:20] <hyperstream> sn9,  i believe its a image. now depending of what type of image.(dvd cdr in this case) its not to say that it isnt a movie.
[08:20] <dli> jtibau, it should work with a web server, at least from the FAI project
[08:20] <hyperstream> i mean cdr *
[08:20] <TiGZ> Can someone here help me?
[08:20] <cobelloy> hang on, yes I can
[08:20] <hyperstream> dvd rip. perhaps cam.
[08:20] <_jason> jason12: in a terminal, type: su -               and enter your root password, then follow ubout's instructions
[08:20] <dli> crunchyfish, and ext3 doesn't on either drive?
[08:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell jason12 about expert
[08:20] <Quan-Time> ok im back (i was auska)
[08:20] <crunchyfish> yeah, i used ext3 on both drives and every time it froze up between 70-80% of the install
[08:21] <sn9> hyperstream: you have to burn the image to disc with cdrdao before you can play it
[08:21] <jtibau> dli: just to get it out of my mind, is there a dpkg-scanpackages command in ubuntu??
[08:21] <Quan-Time> im back on the triple monitor setup, but i glxgears = SLOW
[08:21] <hyperstream> wrong
[08:21] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:21] <jason12> I have root access
[08:21] <dli> crunchyfish, must be a software bug then
[08:21] <hyperstream> i can use VLC
[08:21] <hyperstream> :)
[08:21] <crunchyfish> and unless it just takes forever for "fontconfig" to configure, i think it's locked up again
[08:21] <cobelloy> _jason, the launcher says this: gksudo /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[08:21] <Quan-Time> so games are useless to me on my 7800gtx (nvidia).. thats what i want to try and get working
[08:21] <intelikey> jtibau apt-cache search/show
[08:21] <_jason> cobelloy: now type that in a terminal and see what output you get
[08:21] <sn9> hyperstream: not with .bin/.cue
[08:21] <dli> crunchyfish, I hate ext3, as much as I hate reiserfs :) I recommend jfs and reiser4
[08:21] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:22] <_jason> jason12: good, ubotu's instructions should take care of your problem then.  Did you receive a private message from him ?
[08:22] <dli> Quan-Time, nvidia driver works now?
[08:22] <cobelloy> and now of course for some reason it is working again.....
[08:22] <sn9> hyperstream: you could with .iso, though
[08:22] <cobelloy> AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[08:22] <TiGZ> Is anyone familiar with wine here?
[08:22] <Quan-Time> dli, well i have triple monitor setup, but glxgears = slow as anything
[08:22] <crunchyfish> maybe i should just stick to windows, or try installing a different distro. i'm kind of disappointed though because ubuntu looks really appealing
[08:22] <Quan-Time> so i cant play quake3 / wolfET
[08:22] <_jason> cobelloy: you should be happy, not argh'ing
[08:22] <Quan-Time> thats what i want to get working, else everything is ok
[08:22] <dli> is that the reason?
[08:22] <cobelloy> even the script works again !!!!!
[08:22] <Quan-Time> not sure...
[08:22] <intelikey> tigz wine is wine is not an emulator
[08:22] <TiGZ> Does anyone have a link for Nvivia Drivers?
[08:22] <cobelloy> but why?????
[08:23] <tritium> !nvidia
[08:23] <ubotu> Please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:23] <dj-fu> www.nvidia.com
[08:23] <Quan-Time> www.nvidia.com ?
[08:23] <dj-fu> lol
[08:23] <cobelloy> why did it stop working then start working again ??
[08:23] <TiGZ> intelikey: i know
[08:23] <hyperstream> sn9: VLC plays KVCD's bin/cue in windows and ive just found that it was created for linux and ported for windows.
[08:23] <hyperstream> its a known thing.
[08:23] <hyperstream> perhaps google ?
[08:23] <dli> Quan-Time, I suppose it must be faster than 11 fps
[08:23] <_jason> cobelloy: are you positive you were typing the password ok?
[08:23] <TiGZ> Because wine needs better drivers
[08:23] <cobelloy> I wonder if dvdshrink is working again...
[08:23] <Quan-Time> dli, how can i get it to output fps ? glxgears -infofps ?
[08:23] <Quan-Time> somethin like that
[08:23] <fid> How can I check my system to make sure its totally secure?
[08:23] <dli> Quan-Time, glxgears -printfps
[08:23] <cowboyfeng> I just installed kubuntu on a hp 503w and I am getting a stall at grub.
[08:24] <Quan-Time> fid, ask a 13yo to break it
[08:24] <cobelloy> it wasnt even asking me, i clicked the menu entry, it thought for a moment then nothing...
[08:24] <fid> so like if i were to say go on irc.2600.net no one could pwn my noob arse
[08:24] <sn9> hyperstream: you can install vlc
[08:24] <hyperstream> sure i can ?
[08:24] <dli> Quan-Time, ask ubuntu developers to stop hacking glxgears :)
[08:24] <hyperstream> apt-get install vlc ?
[08:24] <sn9> hyperstream: right
[08:24] <intelikey> fid is the power cord connected ?    it's not totally secure then.
[08:24] <_jason> cobelloy: strange, don't know what would cause that.  If it happens again, remember to do that command in a regular terminal and look at the output
[08:24] <fid> sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:24] <meshe> i am really quite stumped on this one, the networks cards should just work... i wonder if there's a missing driver for the pci bus or something
[08:24] <hyperstream> sn9, exactly therefore i do not require to burn it ?
[08:24] <intelikey> fid nessus
[08:24] <hyperstream> fid,  su :D
[08:25] <cowboyfeng> stalls at grub 1.5
[08:25] <cowboyfeng> nothing else
[08:25] <sn9> if it is in fact a KVCD
[08:25] <cobelloy> this time there was no output - it just worked
[08:25] <cobelloy> typed the command and a root term opened
[08:25] <jason12> worked like a charm, all jasons rock
[08:25] <_jason> jason12: ;)
[08:25] <cobelloy> dvdshrink not working again tho
[08:26] <hyperstream> sn9, i downloaded it off bittorrent. its labeld. KVCD.
[08:26] <hyperstream> off a torrent site*
[08:26] <sn9> go ahead then
[08:26] <hyperstream> ahh i will. ?
[08:26] <cowboyfeng> god damit all i want to do is use gimp and I can't even get the os to boot
[08:26] <dli> meshe, still one way
[08:26] <dli> meshe, want to try?
[08:26] <hyperstream> rotf
[08:27] <intelikey> fid checkrootkit  nessus  tripwire.....  search the package manager
[08:27] <meshe> if it lets me stick to ubuntu, i'll try
[08:27] <Quan-Time> how do i get glxgears to display FPS ?
[08:27] <dli> meshe, download kernel source, build your own kernel
[08:27] <meshe> you think that's it?
[08:27] <dli> meshe, try the newest kernel
[08:27] <intelikey> run it ?
[08:27] <fid> when running scans w/ nessus what do i want as the target?
[08:27] <dli> Quan-Time, glxgears -printfps
[08:28] <dj-fu> !glxgears
[08:28] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[08:28] <dj-fu> ^^
[08:28] <dj-fu> Surprisingly, that actually works.
[08:28] <cowboyfeng> I replaced the batery then it recognized the hd but it still won't boot
[08:28] <Quan-Time> i know its not a benchmark.. but i get 17fps
[08:28] <Quan-Time> so i know something is wrong
[08:28] <hyperstream> dj-fu,  have you played with lmms ?
[08:28] <Fuelbottle> The nvidia driver in ubuntu dapper crashes X every 2-3 hours or so for me...
[08:28] <hyperstream> its not bad.
[08:28] <tritium> Fuelbottle: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[08:28] <meshe> i downloaded 1.6.12-10-686-smp on my laptop, burned it to a cd and installed it (it's a dual cpu machine)
[08:28] <hyperstream> except the FX gui doesnt pop up which really limits what you can do . :/
[08:29] <jtibau> dli: what's the gpg key for? do I really need the Release.gpg and public.key files for my repository to work???
[08:29] <cowboyfeng> s o i should just use windows then
[08:29] <slavik> Quan-Time: glxinfo|grep direct
[08:29] <dli> jtibau, sorry, do you get the FAI docs?
[08:29] <Quan-Time> slavik, yes yes yes
[08:29] <dj-fu> hyperstream, don't know what lmms is/
[08:29] <Quan-Time> somethin is really wrong here.
[08:29] <slavik> that returns yes?
[08:29] <hyperstream> its a fruity loops CLONE
[08:29] <dli> meshe, download kernel source, and build :(
[08:29] <hyperstream> apt-get install lmms
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> Quan-Time: direct rendering : yes ?
[08:29] <hyperstream> its pretty leet :D
[08:29] <Quan-Time> slavik, uh huh (yup )
[08:29] <dj-fu> seriously?
[08:30] <dj-fu> w00t
[08:30] <hyperstream> linux multimedia system :D (i think)
[08:30] <hyperstream> yes man
[08:30] <Quan-Time> direct rendering = yes (say it 3 times, as i have 3 monitors)
[08:30] <meshe> dli: think it's worth trying dapper?
[08:30] <hyperstream> awesome hay ? i got all my old FL studio stuff and your's
[08:30] <slavik> Quan-Time: something is seriously wrong
[08:30] <jtibau> dli: I'm looking for them
[08:30] <dj-fu> does it open .flp?
[08:30] <hyperstream> listening to them today they are leet as man. we should kick that stuff again
[08:30] <slavik> try to install nvidia-glx back
[08:30] <dli> meshe no :(
[08:30] <slavik> remove the other thing
[08:30] <Quan-Time> exactually, thus my problem.. xorg.conf problems ya think ?
[08:30] <varsendagger> waht is a fruity loops clone?
[08:30] <hyperstream> no .xml and .mmp
[08:30] <cowboyfeng> fuck ubuntu fuck linux back to widows at least it works
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> meshe: its still in flight 3 right ?
[08:30] <hyperstream> its exactly the same tho
[08:30] <Quan-Time> should i paste it on the pastebin thing for someone to check ?
[08:30] <Android_D> I am trying to install zoneminder and I need to type the following: " mysql mysql < db/zm_create.sql ".  I am being told that the mysql command is not found. why is this happening?
[08:30] <meshe> beta 2
[08:30] <dli> jtibau, FAI docs should point you to the right point
[08:30] <hyperstream> almost.
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> cowboyfeng: i feel sorry for you..
[08:31] <jtibau> dli: my internet connection is pretty slow so...
[08:31] <slavik> !ops
[08:31] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:31] <cowboyfeng> me too
[08:31] <hyperstream> gui is a lil messyer. but the plugins look good
[08:31] <tritium> what, slavik ?
[08:31] <slavik> cowboyfeng is trolling ...
[08:31] <dj-fu> have a look in a few, installing kde right now
[08:31] <dli> jtibau, I didn't touch FAI for long :(
[08:31] <hyperstream> still needs a crap load of work
[08:31] <hyperstream> writting by a german person
[08:31] <slavik> ty
[08:31] <rob> ?
[08:31] <dj-fu> Android_D, do you have mysql client installed/mysql server installed
[08:31] <hyperstream> if i could get FX gui to pop up id be pumping
[08:31] <hyperstream> but i cannot (F9) :/
[08:31] <hyperstream> why kde?
[08:31] <fid> so when it says nessus returned an empty report thats a good thing right?
[08:31] <jtibau> dli: ok thanks
[08:31] <dj-fu> testing
[08:32] <B_166-ER-X> help, i have a video-digicam, wich uses a usb port to connect to my pc, when i tried it first a few days ago, ubuntu was detecting it with no problem, but now, i cannot see my cam anywhere, the disk mounter doesnt see the usb port being activated, although my digicam knows she is plugged in... what could it be ?
[08:32] <hyperstream> ahh
[08:32] <hyperstream> with xgl?
[08:32] <tritium> man, take your eye off the screen, and stuff like that happens...
[08:32] <meshe> dli: can i build it off of the source that comes with breezy?  or should i do the kernel.org version?
[08:32] <slavik> tritium: what stuff?
[08:32] <dj-fu> hyperstream, no, just 2d
[08:32] <intelikey> fid read the nessus docs
[08:32] <tritium> slavik: such as cowboyfeng
[08:32] <dli> meshe, I think either should work
[08:32] <slavik> oh
[08:32] <fid> you could have unplugged it before unmounting the cam
[08:32] <meshe> ok, kewl
[08:32] <slavik> tritium: make me an op ;)
[08:33] <tritium> slavik: we've got enough, thanks ;)
[08:33] <fid> sometimes that makes it freak out it did with mine anyways
[08:33] <B_166-ER-X> fid ?
[08:33] <slavik> darn, was worth a try
[08:33] <hyperstream> sweet
[08:33] <fid> ?
[08:33] <tritium> !tell slavik about ircrules
[08:33] <B_166-ER-X> hm, i usually think to unmount it before..but 'IF' its that  , is there something i can do ?
[08:33] <meshe> dli: thanks for the help :)
[08:33] <hyperstream> rotf finaly lernt how to mount vfats so my user uid and guid could have write permissions. how lame huh ?
[08:34] <Quan-Time> should i be trying different nvidia drivers ? is there anything else i can try ?
[08:34] <sn9> hyperstream: uid=1000
[08:34] <hyperstream> rw,uid=xxxx,guid=xxxx :D
[08:34] <slavik> tritium: I didn't ask :P I suggested
[08:34] <dli> meshe, no problem, tell me it works or not
[08:34] <fid> i thought all the nvidia were the same drivers
[08:34] <hyperstream> sn9,  i already know
[08:34] <tritium> heh
[08:34] <fid> like they just have one bundle or something
[08:34] <dli> Quan-Time, try the driver from nvidia.com
[08:34] <sn9> now you know again
[08:35] <hyperstream> sn9,  do you not know how to read? i said i finaly lernt....
[08:35] <tritium> Quan-Time: you're using the ubuntu packaged ones?
[08:35] <dj-fu> hyperstream, moment of truth, do they have Exec permissions?
[08:35] <Quan-Time> yer ubuntu packaged ones
[08:35] <Quan-Time> kk ill try em
[08:35] <hyperstream> yes
[08:35] <tritium> we don't advise the nvidia.com download
[08:35] <hyperstream> :D
[08:35] <fid> I was having problems with my nvidia drivers and I did the nvidia download and it worked fine
[08:35] <fid> or wait now
[08:36] <fid> no nevermind
[08:36] <intelikey> nah.   nv is working fine.
[08:36] <fid> that was my soundblaster my bad
[08:36] <fid> haha
[08:36] <tritium> !enter
[08:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:36] <Fuelbottle> has anyone tried the nvidia drivers from the nvidia webpage?
[08:36] <fid> I think I did
[08:37] <Charles> !What do i type in terminal to move files from one computer to the next?
[08:37] <ubotu> Charles: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:37] <tritium> Fuelbottle: yes, but they're not installed as a package, so you don't have the advantages of a managed .deb
[08:37] <Quan-Time> tritium, i know you dont advise it, but is there anything else i can try ? in synapsis it has 2 usable versions.. nvidia-glx (which i use) or nvidia-settings (which auto uninstalls nvidia-glx)
[08:37] <slavik> Charles: you want ftp of sorts
[08:37] <Quan-Time> thats how i screwed up last time..
[08:37] <Charles> i got a crossover cable
[08:37] <tritium> Quan-Time: what is unusable about it?
[08:37] <cius> anyone have trouble getting eterm installed through synaptic on dapper beta 2 after adding universe repos?
[08:37] <Charles> i just want to transfer some mp3s
[08:37] <tritium> cius: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[08:38] <slavik> Charles: ooh, that's beyond me ... but you can network the two systems ...
[08:38] <Fuelbottle> tritium: but since nvidia-glx randomly crashes my computer, installing the ones from the nvidia would be my best bet, right?
[08:38] <sn9> Charles: are the two machines connected somehow?
[08:38] <Quan-Time> tritium, when i changed to the nvidia-settings i cant get back into X
[08:38] <Charles> crossover cable
[08:38] <tritium> Fuelbottle: I never advise that, no
[08:38] <Quan-Time> i was auska before, and you were helping me get back into X
[08:38] <tritium> Quan-Time: what was wrong with nvidia-glx?
[08:38] <slavik> ahh
[08:39] <sn9> Charles: you need to configure the ethernet on both ends to use static addresses
[08:39] <fid> man for a bunch l33t hax0rs 2600 is always down
[08:39] <fid> hah
[08:39] <tritium> Quan-Time: you didn't mention that you installed nvidia-settings
[08:39] <Quan-Time> tritium, q3 wont run smooth..
[08:39] <intelikey> cius  i'v had to  apt-get update  twice   every time....  don't know why.      apt-get update ;apt-get update   then install
[08:39] <Charles> ok
[08:39] <Quan-Time> and why exactually is my CPU 100% ?
[08:39] <jtibau> dli: sorry for the bother, I'm a newbie... I read the man file for apt-move and think I can figure out how to work it out from now on. I really appreciate the atention, ubuntu does have a great comunity. Thanks sincerily
[08:39] <slavik> jtibau: ty
[08:39] <Charles> where do i do that
[08:39] <Charles> one is ubuntu and ones debian
[08:40] <tritium> Charles: "man interfaces" to read up a bit on it
[08:40] <dli> jtibau, just ask again, if you get questions again
[08:40] <sn9> Charles: use ifconfig
[08:40] <hyperstream> system -> admin -> networking / networking tools
[08:40] <Charles> ok
[08:40] <intelikey> also notice a few installs that errored out and  apt-get install -f    to complete them
[08:40] <q00p> does this work for anyone? echo "<?php print 'test'; exit; ?>" > test.php; php4-cgi ./test.php
[08:40] <hyperstream> would be the easyest method
[08:40] <jtibau> slavik: :) I'm not used to irc jargon either hehe... what does ty mean?
[08:40] <slavik> thank you
[08:40] <slavik> :)
[08:40] <jtibau> sweet
[08:40] <jtibau> see ya later
[08:40] <tritium> jtibau: good for you!   I can barely guess what all that means
[08:41] <q00p> intelikey: no input file specified
[08:41] <dli> Quan-Time, "top"
[08:41] <Charles> wow its gonna take some time to read that man page
[08:42] <Android_D> how do I get the "mysql" command to work?
[08:42] <Mark987> i'm impressed by most distros' download speeds... amazing
[08:42] <cius> thanks intelikey, I'll try that
[08:42] <jtibau> rtfm: read the f.. man??? posibly???
[08:42] <mc|amb> hi, could someone recommend a download manager please
[08:42] <sn9> jtibau: yes
[08:42] <roryy> Fine Manual
[08:42] <q00p> intelikey: actually, this is f*'ed. php4-cgi -h does that too
[08:42] <Charles> im so lost
[08:42] <intelikey> q00p drop it in a script and see if it works,  it may be bash trying to intrupret to much
[08:42] <jtibau> haha I might get used to this
[08:43] <q00p> intelikey: can't -- it won't read any script
[08:43] <jtibau> gotta go... I need to get that repository to work
[08:43] <q00p> that's what i'm saying ;-) php4-cgi is ignoring all command line stuffs
[08:43] <Quan-Time> heh.. fancy that, it worked.. q3ded had 2 copies loaded, and was taking 100% cpu
[08:43] <Quan-Time> killed both of those.. BAM everything worked fine ;)
[08:43] <q00p> intelikey: hm. lemme try csh, maybe you're right about bash...
[08:43] <tritium> Quan-Time: heh :)
[08:43] <jtibau> I'll be back though, nice talking to you all
[08:43] <Quan-Time> now to install wolfet :)
[08:44] <q00p> intelikey: nope. csh does same thing. php4-cgi -h also gives no input file specified
[08:44] <Charles> most static ips are the same right
[08:44] <tritium> Charles: your two machines will have to have different IPs
[08:44] <Charles> hows do i retrive the ips
[08:44] <q00p> intelikey: ok that's weird. it seems to be that cgi vars will do that
[08:44] <intelikey> q00p i know some bash but i don't know squat about php
[08:44] <tritium> Charles: it's your network, right?  You assign them yourself ;)
[08:45] <Charles> ok
[08:45] <Charles> well hmm
[08:45] <Quan-Time> trying to install wolfET linux, returns the error "The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1"
[08:45] <Quan-Time> but its installed.. ideas / work arounds ?
[08:45] <sn9> Charles: on one machine, do "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up" on the other do "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up"
[08:46] <intelikey> Quan-Time b-e installed ?
[08:46] <q00p> intelikey: ;-) seems to be that setting just some of the env vars for cgi will cause them all to be searched ;-)
[08:47] <Quan-Time> intelikey, *blink* ?
[08:47] <dli> Quan-Time, the driver works now?
[08:47] <q00p> Intelikey -- got it thanks!!
[08:47] <q00p> ;-)
[08:47] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, you running 32bit Ubuntu?
[08:47] <Quan-Time> dli, yup
[08:47] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, yup.
[08:47] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, ET should just install, then - have you see the wiki page for it?
[08:47] <dli> Quan-Time, how much do you get in glxgears?
[08:47] <hyphenated> I don't recall any trouble installing et on breezy
[08:47] <Quan-Time> already knew about the amd64 "issues" with some q3 engine games. thus i went the 32bit way.
[08:48] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[08:48] <Quan-Time> dli, not that its a benchtest, but just shy of 21,000fps
[08:48] <tritium> good night
[08:48] <Quan-Time> nighty night ;)
[08:48] <dli> Quan-Time, now, you are happy, did you use the nvidia.com file?
[08:49] <black_hk> hello is there any programs like <b> Dreamweaver</b> for linux ? I am using Ubuntu - Breezy.
[08:49] <intelikey> hehhe i get about 34 fps   so there  ;P
[08:49] <Quan-Time> synapsis nvidia-glx
[08:49] <slavik> Quan-Time: synaptic :)
[08:49] <sn9> black_hk: there is nVu
[08:49] <Mark987> wow... the centos torrent has got to be the fastest torrent i've ever seen... can't believe it... 1125 KB/sec, like 9mbit!
[08:50] <amorphous_> hello peeps...
[08:50] <slavik> Mark 10mbit actually
[08:50] <Mark987> that has got to be the closest i've ever been to maxing out my internet connection
[08:50] <black_hk> sn9, ok i will check it out. so I can edit php files in graphical mode - i mean the html portion in the php file.
[08:50] <black_hk> sn9, thank you :)
[08:50] <amorphous_> i'm having problems with apt-get - when i try to update it gives me a 'GPG error' saying 'unknown error executing gpgv'... searching google it's not massively common, but they all put it down to mirror errors... chin
[08:50] <amorphous_> any offers? (it's mighty quiet in here...??
[08:50] <roryy> quiet ?
[08:51] <Mark987> slackern well... 1125*8 is 9 or so
[08:51] <Mark987> my connection's 10, i doubt i'd ever fully reach it
[08:51] <slavik> hmm, it is
[08:51] <roryy> amorphous_: you could try cleaning out the downloaded lists
[08:51] <slavik> optimum?
[08:51] <blind> When using unace to ... well, to un-ace a file, i get "File compressed with unknown method. Decompression not possible."
[08:51] <slavik> oh, 1250 is 10
[08:51] <slavik> heh
[08:51] <Mark987> close enough anyways :)
[08:51] <roryy> amorphous_: they're in /var/lib/apt/lists
[08:52] <slavik> blind: a new version of ace?
[08:52] <Charles> I typed the ifconfig and the ip on my other computer and it errored
[08:52] <slavik> Mark987: optimum?
[08:52] <roryy> amorphous_: sometimes i get an apparently complete file stuck in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial -- no idea why apt does that
[08:52] <Mark987> optimum?
[08:52] <blind> i don't know. i think winrar does ace, and my windows comp is upstairs, soooooo.
[08:52] <blind> brb
[08:52] <slavik> blind: wine :D
[08:52] <Mark987> oh
[08:53] <slavik> blind: winrar does do ace
[08:53] <Toba> I should be able to change the command button clicked sound in system > preferences > sound right?
[08:53] <Toba> I just changed it.
[08:53] <Toba> and it's still using the same sound
[08:53] <slavik> Toba: you might need to restart ...
[08:54] <Toba> ugh, why
[08:54] <Toba> that's retarded
[08:54] <slavik> dunno, notice I said might
[08:54] <Charles> !how do i get my network up on the debian side?
[08:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Charles
[08:54] <Toba> ><
[08:54] <slavik> meaning I am not entirely sure
[08:54] <Toba> I thought linux was supposed to be unlike windows in that way
[08:54] <Toba> damnit
[08:54] <roryy> Toba: what did you change it to?
[08:54] <roryy> Toba: it seems to work here
[08:54] <Charles> how do i get my network up on the debian side?
[08:54] <Toba> something else, why should it matter?
[08:54] <sn9> Charles: same way
[08:55] <sn9> Charles: on one machine, do "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up" on the other do "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up"
[08:55] <Toba> it's just a different not as harsh sounding gtk-events sound
[08:55] <Toba> :/
[08:55] <roryy> Toba: well, the 'activate' sound seems to be the same
[08:55] <slavik> Charles: I would say same way as ubuntu, if not try to ask debian people ...
[08:55] <Toba> yeah activate is
[08:55] <Toba> I noticed that
[08:55] <intelikey> ] this is not M$ reboot   with BSOD   this is linux with  kernel panic  if something is really hosed.
[08:55] <Toba> switched it to toggled actually
[08:55] <Quan-Time> hmm... i need to copy a directory into /usr/local/games/wolfet/
[08:55] <black_hk> Hi guys some money matters : i have been using a lot of free/open source programs for my job and for business purpose. I didn't pay anything so far. But these programs are fantastic. For example : Ubuntu OS, Openoffice, XMMS, Bluefish... etc etc. Anyone knows who is paying for the development and other expenses? I was wondering !!!
[08:55] <amorphous_> i'm having problems with apt-get - when i try to update it gives me a 'GPG error' saying 'unknown error executing gpgv'... searching google it's not massively common, but they all put it down to mirror errors... i've changed the mirror... no joy. anyone have any ideas?
[08:55] <amorphous_> does apt break itself if i try to to a dpkg install and dependencies fail?
[08:55] <Quan-Time> but i cant... sudo ?
[08:55] <roryy> Toba: i changed it to 'card shuffle' .. oh. hm
[08:55] <Toba> the play button plays the right thing
[08:55] <Toba> but actually clicking stuff still uses the old one
[08:55] <Toba> btw I really hate that default
[08:56] <roryy> Toba: yeah. maybe 'command button' means something else
[08:56] <Toba> not smooth at all
[08:56] <slavik> black_hk: Mark Shuttleworth is paying for Ubuntu devs, google pays some OOo devs I think
[08:56] <Toba> roryy: :/ maybe
[08:56] <intelikey> Quan-Time is your sudoer broken ?
[08:56] <slavik> black_hk: we get paid nothing :(
[08:56] <Madpilot> black_hk, Sun pays for OOo - a lot of projects these days take donations via PayPal, too
[08:56] <Toba> there are only three user interface events
[08:56] <slavik> oh and google pays one gaim dev
[08:56] <Toba> and they are all set to not what is playing
[08:56] <Toba> :(
[08:57] <black_hk> I see. Thank you guys. So how can I do some help with these projects? I am not a full time developer. My job is sales.
[08:58] <black_hk> Its so amazing that some programs are much better than those paid ones !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:58] <roryy> !contribute
[08:58] <ubotu> [contribute]  at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[08:58] <Toba> yeah I know black_hk
[08:58] <Toba> it's pretty cool
[08:58] <intelikey> sell linux ?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> slavik: only some ubuntu devs get paid - most dont
[08:58] <Toba> yeah
[08:58] <roryy> black_hk: there are non-coding tasks too -- see that web page
[08:58] <Toba> linux development is mostly volunteer
[08:58] <Charles> sn9, it said i have no such device
[08:58] <Quan-Time> intelikey, ok now. i had a moment of retardedness
[08:58] <cornernote_> hello, i want to remove gdm and just replace it with something like "su myuser startx" .. i added my script to rc2.d and removed gdm from there, now when i boot it tells me the user doesnt have perms to startx
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: yes
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: although that is sad
[08:59] <sn9> Charles: ouch. debian or ubuntu?
[08:59] <Hobbsee> slavik: true, you cant pay everyone though
[08:59] <intelikey> Quan-Time we don't all run at the same speed....  :)
[08:59] <Toba> cornernote_: that's because... the user does not have perms to startx.
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: which is sad
[08:59] <black_hk> ok I will check. Thank you. He he he I feel bad if I use those for no fee and some other people are putting so much effort to make these programs. And the support I get in the net, its first class most of the times :)
[08:59] <Toba> that's supposed to get started by root
[08:59] <Charles> sn9, debian
[08:59] <cornernote_> Toba: if i login then i can startx
[08:59] <black_hk> I will start with Ubuntu.
[08:59] <slavik> Hobbsee: if I was ruler of world, I would give cheese to everyone :D
[08:59] <Toba> cornernote_: huh...
[08:59] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[08:59] <Quan-Time> intelikey, you being intel, wow.. your like what. 2 years behind ?
[08:59] <Charles> sn9, ubuntu worked both times
[09:00] <cornernote_> if i login with myuser i can startx... just not in my rc2.d
[09:00] <sn9> Charles: do you know which network card is in the debian box?
[09:00] <slavik> black_hk: read Stallman's story of how free software was there first
[09:00] <cornernote_> whats the difference ?
[09:00] <intelikey> startx  is suid  so users can use startx  to start X  :)
[09:00] <roryy> Toba: it looks like the sound preferences are disconnected from reality ;).   We - the non-computer-pros really appreciate it. I will help with those non-programming tasks, especially giving publicity - something I can do very well :)
[09:01] <slavik> Mark987: yes
[09:01] <roryy> Toba: yeah.   dapper (6.06) uses a new version of gnome
[09:01] <black_hk> slackern, Ok I will google for that.
[09:01] <Mark987> freebsd (and hence openssh) is having those kinds of issues
[09:01] <roryy> Toba: unfortunately only critical bug-fixes are applied to already released versions of ubuntu
[09:01] <Toba> ehhh, I'm probably going to rebuild my system entirely in a few months anyway
[09:01] <black_hk> slavik, Yes I will google for Stallman
[09:01] <slavik> Mark987: didn't freebsd get something from apple?
[09:01] <hyperstream> Charles, have you tried #debian ?
[09:01] <Toba> speaking of stallman, I met him once
[09:01] <Toba> he sold me an FSF pin
[09:02] <Mark987> didn't hear about that, think they got some from mozilla though
[09:02] <Toba> no
[09:02] <Toba> apple got something from bsd
[09:02] <intelikey> slavik or was that the other way around ?
[09:02] <cornernote_> so can anynone tell me how to allow startx to be run by a user at startup ?
[09:02] <Toba> i.e. their kernel
[09:02] <black_hk> FSF pin? For what?
[09:02] <hyperstream> Charles, did you compile the kernel to have support for your network card or you using a default kernel image?
[09:02] <Toba> black_hk: merch.
[09:02] <slavik> intelikey: money wise
[09:02] <Madpilot> folks, can the non-tech chat move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:02] <dli> cornernote_, better to run gdm :(
[09:02] <brum76> hi, I am trying to install sun-j2re on breezy , but for some reason the pkg remains listed as virtual. I have enabled universe,multiverse, backports, and all that I could find in the /etc/apt.sources.list and ran the update . What else should I do ?
[09:02] <Toba> Madpilot: oops, sorry
[09:02] <Charles> defualt
[09:02] <slavik> black_hk: fsf =free software foundation
[09:02] <black_hk> Toba, you mean you mechandise those pins?
[09:03] <jmibanez> hullo... i have a "bug" (more like a quirk) which i found a fix for online-- should i post it to malone? or should i just post it to the wiki?
[09:03] <Charles> sn9, default
[09:03] <Toba> yes bl
[09:03] <hyperstream> Charles, try #debian
[09:03] <intelikey> slavik oh i don't know anything about that.   i don't do money.
[09:03] <slavik> k
[09:03] <Toba> btw #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion
[09:03] <sn9> Charles: modprobe eepro100 on debian
[09:03] <Madpilot> jmibanez, might as well put it in Malone, w/ your fix
[09:03] <black_hk> oh Free Software Foundation.... Sorry I thought its some pins.
[09:03] <slavik> brum76: go to java site and click on manual install, their guide is very good
[09:03] <Charles> sn9, did that just did nothing
[09:03] <jmibanez> Madpilot: fwiw, it's a quirk of a snd-intel8x0 sound card--
[09:03] <hyperstream> dmesg
[09:03] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell brum76 about restrictedformats
[09:04] <brum76> slavik: yes, that's one way, but it shows up as a pkg. Secondly, it is not the only pkg that has that issue.
[09:04] <sn9> Charles: good. now try the ifconfig again
[09:04] <slavik> brum76: "virtual" packages are packages that some other package lists as a dependency but the package doesn't actually exist
[09:05] <intelikey> charles in linux  no error means "no error"      most of the time.
[09:05] <Quan-Time> ok one last problem.. obviosuly i have to set up my config with quake3 / wolfet, and it resides in /usr/local/games/quake3
[09:05] <cci> hi there. may i know where can i find out the packages included in ubunto 6.06?
[09:05] <Quan-Time> in the quake3 console, i need to save my config, with /writeconfig [configname]
[09:05] <Quan-Time> but it throws an error saying it cant..
[09:05] <Quan-Time> do i load the game with sudo or somethin ? so it can get write permissions ?
[09:05] <sn9> cci: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <tritium_away> cci: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ (in the future, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions)
[09:06] <intelikey> Quan-Time something wrong with your sudoer ?
[09:06] <intelikey> :)
[09:06] <slavik> Quan-Time: install the game into your user dir
[09:06] <cci> tks
[09:06] <slavik> or start it with sudo, yes.
[09:06] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, you might need to change permissions on whatever folder Q3 keeps it's user files in (~/.quake3, or something?)
[09:06] <slavik> night all
[09:06] <Quan-Time> gotcha
[09:06] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, not really sure
[09:06] <slavik> intelikey: change your nick to amdikey :P
[09:07] <slavik> Madpilot: don't ya crash overnight :P
[09:07] <Madpilot> slavik, haven't yet ;)
[09:07] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, i know where the game is. but when im in game, i dont have write permissions..
[09:07] <intelikey> slavik my nick is a froidian spelling of a real word....
[09:07] <cci> does Ubuntu use XFree86 or X.org 6.8?
[09:07] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, where is the game trying to write to?
[09:07] <intelikey> sound it out.
[09:07] <Madpilot> ccc_, Xorg
[09:07] <Quan-Time> can i launch the game with sudo to make it have write permissions ? once i edited the config the way i want, i should be set really and not need to do it again
[09:08] <cci> cool
[09:08] <Luke> x.org
[09:08] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, /usr/local/games/quake3/
[09:08] <Quan-Time> its trying to update config.cfg
[09:08] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, running a game w/ sudo sounds like a bad idea...
[09:08] <tritium_away> cci: dapper will have X.org 7.0
[09:08] <Quan-Time> Madpilot, i suspected it owuld be bad idea, thus ive not done it
[09:08] <Charles> it says  error getting interfaces
[09:08] <cci> i got a dumb question: why is Ubuntu installation ISO just a CD, while Fedora requires 4 CDs?
[09:08] <roryy> Madpilot: i think it (fairly) often happens to enable writing of system-wide score files
[09:09] <Quan-Time> cci, bloatware
[09:09] <roryy> Madpilot: e.g., i *think* nethack runs suid
[09:09] <cci> hahahah
[09:09] <zyphrexi> anyone know when dapper will be stable?
[09:09] <Madpilot> roryy, not sure, really
[09:09] <bth_> how do i add a service that will run at startup?
[09:09] <Madpilot> !+dapper
[09:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:09] <Quan-Time> zyphrexi, when more ppl test it ?
[09:09] <sn9> bth_: which service?
[09:10] <zyphrexi> june 1.. blah
[09:10] <cci> do u think Ubuntu 6.06 can fit in a 3.5GB partition?
[09:10] <Charles> sn9, i dont know whats going on so
[09:10] <cci> im thinking of installing it to an old machine
[09:10] <Luke> cci: of course
[09:10] <cci> great :)
[09:10] <bth_> umm well i want to have svnserve start on boot.  i also want to have a Zope instance I have start on boot.
[09:10] <sn9> Charles: did ifconfig work the second time?
[09:10] <zyphrexi> breezy killed my dapper drive
[09:10] <zyphrexi> there was a post about it in the forums where i whined for a while
[09:10] <s1> video killed the radiostar too
[09:10] <zyphrexi> yeah
[09:11] <Quan-Time> anyone know of a program like HLSW (game search engine, with ping / player names, and you can double click a server and it auto launches your game and connects to that server)
[09:11] <zyphrexi> foremost is an awesome tool, but sadly not everything was saved
[09:11] <sn9> bth_: man update-rc.d
[09:11] <Charles> sn9, i can get the ifconfig up but i cant do the ip and up
[09:11] <zyphrexi> happypenguin is a good place for gametype stuff
[09:11] <zyphrexi> Charles, you mean ifup?
[09:11] <s1> Quan-Time: xqf I think
[09:11] <cci> oh, say i installed 6.06 beta2. In june the official 6.06 would be out. so how would i upgrade to that version? thru the installation CD? or apt-get?
[09:11] <sn9> Charles: still?
[09:11] <Charles> what
[09:11] <zyphrexi> sudo ifup eth0
[09:11] <zyphrexi> or whatever your network device is
[09:12] <zyphrexi> cci sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:12] <zyphrexi> do that after you gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <zyphrexi> and change all instances of breezy to dapper
[09:13] <cci> thanks
[09:13] <marsh> roryy, sorry, xchat probs... I deleted all but 'partial' in /var/lib/apt/lists... but same error... is this because i have lost the gpg keys?
[09:13] <zyphrexi> np
[09:13] <Charles> lol
[09:13] <cci> im new to Ubuntu. I'm a Gentoo person. :)
[09:13] <marsh> roryy, can i get them back?
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: you lost the keys ? ;)
[09:13] <zyphrexi> ah gentoo frightens and confuses me
[09:13] <intelikey> zyphrexi that doesn't explain how to update the dapper pre release to the dapper release
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: yeah, you can use gpg to reload them
[09:13] <cci> heh
[09:13] <cci> oh!
[09:13] <roryy> marsh: just a sec, let me find the wiki page
[09:14] <zyphrexi> intelikey, what other way could there be?
[09:14] <cci> intelikey, so how would you upgrade?
[09:14] <marsh> sorry roryy this is amorphous - xchat logged me out & wont let me in again using amorphous
[09:14] <cci> or the apt-get way would be sufficient?
[09:14] <imbrandon> apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:14] <zyphrexi> cci, apt-get is ubuntus package management system
[09:14] <cci> Oh, cool
[09:14] <intelikey> you would just install the patches and package updates as they come out cci
[09:15] <zyphrexi> ahem
[09:15] <zyphrexi> as I said
[09:15] <zyphrexi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:15] <roryy> marsh: ok, this is the page i was thinking of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary   -- but
[09:15] <cci> ph
[09:15] <roryy> marsh: but, don't use those key-ids
[09:15] <zyphrexi> one line is enough
[09:15] <marsh> ok - let me check it out....
[09:16] <cci> alright, thanks guys! i'm off! :)
[09:16] <zyphrexi> note though, wine doesn't work in dapper currently for some system archetecture kernels
[09:16] <Daskies> Anyone know where to find .mp4 codeces?
[09:16] <Charles> sn9, so what do you think
[09:16] <intelikey> zyphrexi it the next statement that i was having trubble with "after you edit your sources.list"   that is not part of this equation.....  unless i'm missing something.
[09:16] <sn9> Charles: are you root on debian?
[09:16] <Charles> yep
[09:16] <zyphrexi> it's late here, give me a break
[09:16] <Charles> is that the problem
[09:16] <roryy> marsh: they should be on the CD, too
[09:16] <zyphrexi> it'll all work out anyway
[09:17] <intelikey> hehhe yeah
[09:17] <sn9> Charles: and it still won't take the ip after modprobe?
[09:17] <Charles> nope
[09:17] <zyphrexi> besides, typing sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is fun
[09:17] <zyphrexi> I do it all the time for absolutely no reason at all... great fun
[09:18] <zyphrexi> no sudo?
[09:18] <zyphrexi> ubuntu uses sudo
[09:18] <sn9> Charles: pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a" on debian
[09:18] <holycow> hydrogen rox
[09:18] <holycow> woot!
[09:18] <intelikey> mounted nosuid  sudo can't work anyway.
[09:18] <zyphrexi> i've never gotten hydrogen to work right, jackd is wierd
[09:18] <holycow> i just apt-get installed it ... weird
[09:18] <zyphrexi> lmms is really nice
[09:19] <Charles> sn9, up broadcast running multicase
[09:19] <holycow> what is that?
[09:19] <holycow> well i guess its time to install it :)
[09:19] <zyphrexi> well i also have two soundcards, which can be frustrating
[09:19] <zyphrexi> lmms? it's like fruity loops
[09:19] <zyphrexi> it's awesome
[09:19] <sn9> Charles: everything
[09:19] <holycow> yeah i haven't mastered the whole sound subsystem theing either
[09:19] <zyphrexi> heh heh
[09:19] <holycow> zyphrexi, oh so like hydrogen
[09:19] <holycow> *cough*
[09:19] <holycow> :)
[09:20] <zyphrexi> eh, I thought hydrogen was just a drum roll thingamajigger
[09:20] <zyphrexi> wait i think i got it on here someplace
[09:20] <Charles> dude i cant its on my non internet computer
[09:20] <holycow> zyphrexi, i have this thing in the back of my mind to hire someone to write a visual sounds subsystem modifier thingy
[09:21] <roryy> marsh: if you can follow that, the key IDs you want are 437D05B5 79164387 FBB75451
[09:21] <intelikey> zyphrexi can what i run really be called ubuntu ?   i dont have ubuntu-base or ubuntu-desktop  no sudo  no gnome   it's  blackbox with (kde)kicker    and a very highly customized mase system   every thing from sysvinit up is modified
[09:21] <holycow> where you visually connect and disconnect various systems, daemons, drivers, etc
[09:21] <zyphrexi> thingys are good
[09:21] <holycow> intelikey, not rally :)
[09:21] <zyphrexi> intelikey, if you installed from an ubuntu install cd, it's ubuntu
[09:22] <jmibanez> filed bug #42194 ... anyone have the same issue?
[09:22] <zyphrexi> if it uses the ubuntu repos, it's ubuntu
[09:22] <tritium> what's the issue, jmibanez ?
[09:22] <holycow> intelikey, its like asking if you replaced every single component on  your car with one exactly the same, would it be the same car in the end :)
[09:22] <intelikey> zyphrexi  i did install the server-install  of hoary but i up'd to dapper from there.
[09:22] <zyphrexi> holycow, no but it'd still be a cow
[09:22] <zyphrexi> er, car
[09:22] <jmibanez> tritium: alsa: 'master' mixer control does nothing, but 'headphones' mixer control acts as a master
[09:22] <holycow> lol
[09:22] <zyphrexi> told you i was tired
[09:22] <intelikey> holycow or one a little different even
[09:23] <zyphrexi> lol
[09:23] <holycow> enough for you for one day
[09:23] <Madpilot> !info cowsay
[09:23] <ubotu> cowsay: (A configurable talking cow), section universe/games, is optional.
[09:23] <tritium> jmibanez: I've not seen that problem before
[09:23] <holycow> i think the only thing that distinguishes distros in the end is packaging ..
[09:23] <holycow> thus if you use ubuntu repos, then its probably still ubuntu
[09:23] <jmibanez> tritium: affected my laptop
[09:23] <zyphrexi> ooh let's not forget configuring
[09:24] <tritium> holycow: what about the community?  ;)
[09:24] <zyphrexi> slackware's configuration is awesome
[09:24] <holycow> what you guys arent a figment of zyphrexi imagination?
[09:24] <zyphrexi> ubuntu does have a good community
[09:24] <holycow> hotdamn
[09:24] <holycow> tritium, you may be onto something
[09:24] <holycow> >_<
[09:24] <tritium> :)
[09:24] <intelikey> so holycar what drives you anyway  ???   :)
[09:24] <holycow> actually ubuntu now has the best wiki too
[09:25] <holycow> gentoo used to have the best wiki for info, ubuntu's is far more comprehensive now imho
[09:25] <zyphrexi> holycar?
[09:25] <zyphrexi> popemobile?
[09:25] <holycow> lol
[09:25] <holycow> i ain't no poopmobile!Q
[09:25] <holycow> i mean
[09:25] <holycow> ...
[09:25] <holycow> oh nm
[09:25] <zyphrexi> yo
[09:25] <intelikey> lol
[09:25] <zyphrexi> ubuntu was at the top for a while, is what i heard
[09:26] <intelikey> i just thought if the car would still be a cow that...... yell you know.
[09:26] <zyphrexi> for community growth
[09:26] <intelikey> well
[09:26] <zyphrexi> no
[09:26] <Madpilot> !offtopic
[09:26] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:26] <zyphrexi> i don't
[09:26] <beta_m> now that microsoft starting to clamp down on pirating of windows, i think ubuntu can catch more users
[09:26] <zyphrexi> werd
[09:26] <zyphrexi> windows bites anywho
[09:26] <beta_m> ok, let's go to offtopic chan
[09:28] <holycow> btw, compiz-aiglx on dapper is fun
[09:28] <Quan-Time> onboard sound (nf4) and i dont have audio in games
[09:28] <zyphrexi> aiglx
[09:29] <zyphrexi> that's ati right?
[09:29] <ayabara> any users of gparted livecd here? I was told by someone to use that instead of partition tragic.
[09:29] <holycow> no thats the fedor project
[09:29] <zyphrexi> i used it
[09:29] <holycow> glx is the novell project, originally coded for compiz
[09:29] <zyphrexi> i advocate it, ayabara
[09:29] <holycow> aiglx isn't supposed to work with compiz but someone wrote a patch :)
[09:29] <intelikey> i abdocate
[09:30] <holycow> gparted livecd? what does that mean? ubuntu livecd with it installed?
[09:30] <marsh> roryy - sorry to be a pita, but do you know what the hostname is for the gpgkeys?
[09:30] <ayabara> zyphrexi: ok. the first task I need to do is to shrink an ntfs partition (with data) on an external hd
[09:30] <roryy> marsh: you mean for the keyserver ?
[09:30] <ayabara> holycow: think it's just gparted in livecd format
[09:30] <roryy> marsh: try hkp://subkeys.pgp.net  (that's from the gpg manual)
[09:31] <holycow> *hmm*
[09:31] <intelikey> ayabara ooh yuch.....
[09:31] <roryy> marsh: something like 'gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437d05b5'
[09:31] <zyphrexi> i don't think it works with ntfs very well
[09:31] <holycow> zyphrexi, what did you say that app is called? lms?
[09:31] <dai> does anyone knows how to play mp3 on this system??
[09:31] <zyphrexi> holycow, sudo apt-get lmms
[09:31] <roryy> !tell dai about mp3
[09:31] <holycow> thx
[09:31] <dai> thank you
[09:31] <ayabara> intelikey: you are scaring me ;-)
[09:32] <Quan-Time> mp3 / audio is working.. but just not in games
[09:32] <sol_> sup room
[09:32] <roryy> marsh: do that for each of the key ids i gave you earlier, and then do that export command from the wiki with each id
[09:32] <Quan-Time> anyone know how i can diagnose why / fix it ?
[09:32] <sol_> ubuntu noob needs help
[09:32] <intelikey> ayabara you need to scandisk defrag and then resize
[09:32] <marsh> roryy - i'm getting errors on that... :(
[09:32] <dai> what's gam??
[09:32] <mo0se> wee.
[09:32] <mo0se> o.o
[09:32] <sol_> cant get mp3 working in ubuntu
[09:33] <zyphrexi> dai, gam?
[09:33] <marsh> says 'no valid user id's - this may be caused by a missing self signature...
[09:33] <dai> same problem
[09:33] <sol_> use synaptic or root terminal
[09:33] <Madpilot> !mp3
[09:33] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:33] <marsh> roryy, says 'no valid user id's - this may be caused by a missing self signature...
[09:33] <roryy> marsh: for which key ?
[09:33] <Madpilot> sol_, see ubotu's post above for mp3 ^^^
[09:33] <Quan-Time> sol_, install XMMS
[09:33] <Quan-Time> worked fine for me
[09:33] <Quan-Time> use that as a player
[09:33] <ayabara> intelikey: ok. that is something partition magic does for me, isn't it? haven't lost data with it (yet). What I need to do is the operation I said, and then I want to format half of the drive as ext3 so that my life in linux can begin
[09:34] <intelikey> well that's my bell.   later folks.  have a linux time out there....
[09:34] <dj-fu> Anyone know how I can remove everything that a particular package depends on (kubuntu-desktop, for example)
[09:34] <marsh> roryy, all of them...
[09:34] <ayabara> maybe I should just use pt a last time for resizing the ntfs
[09:34] <zyphrexi> there's a fun little program called automatix
[09:34] <intelikey> ayabara yeah make free space and then run the ub installer
[09:34] <zyphrexi> try reading about it
[09:34] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:34] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:34] <roryy> marsh: at which stage? running the 'gpg --keyserver' command or the apt-keys command ?
[09:34] <zyphrexi> lol
[09:35] <holycow> how can we get rid of automatix
[09:35] <ayabara> intelikey: thx. now follow your bell :-)
[09:35] <marsh> roryy, gpg --keyserver....
[09:35] <holycow> that thing has to be blasted right off the net imho
[09:35] <zyphrexi> sudo apt-get remove automatix
[09:35] <jmibanez> !easyubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[09:35] <roryy> marsh: hmm, odd. just a second...
[09:35] <zyphrexi> i only use it for a few different things
[09:35] <Madpilot> zyphrexi, nope, it's not in repos - and never will be, because it's not quite legal...
[09:36] <zyphrexi> eh... crap
[09:36] <zyphrexi> tired
[09:36] <zyphrexi> use synaptic :P
[09:36] <ayabara> hey. easyubuntu sounds like my thing :-)
[09:36] <mo0se> !kubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> somebody said kubuntu was Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:36] <marsh> roryy, i only seemed to find one useful info using google... it was asking if trying a dpkg and it failing on dependencies fouled apt. I tried dpkg -i opera and it failed on deps... you think this could be why?
[09:36] <Quan-Time> so yer, someone wanna help me get my audio working in games ? i have MP3s / xvids working fine..
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: i don't think so.
[09:37] <Quan-Time> just nothing in games. i use onboard NF4 (AC97 or some crap)
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: can you put the output of 'sudo apt-keys list' on the pastebin ?
[09:37] <marsh> roryy, but the user was noob and re-instllled
[09:37] <ayabara> are you people running breezy or dapper?
[09:37] <goonie> Here is a problem I need to solve... My netcards are always inactive on boot. I have to manually acitvate them which is tiresome and shouldn't be necessary. I have also noticed an error when shutting down the machine "Deconfiguring network interfaces ... Fail" Any ideas?
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: sorry, 'sudo apt-key list'
[09:37] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, for ET, try in a terminal: "killall esd" then start the game, when it's done type "esd" to get regular sound back
[09:37] <roryy> marsh: the pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:38] <jenda> ayabara: most run breezy
[09:38] <dli> goonie, easier way is to build your kernel :)
[09:38] <jenda> ayabara: it is not advised to use the development version as main desktop
[09:38] <ayabara> jenda: ok. then I guess a newbie should too
[09:39] <Quan-Time> nope didnt work Madpilot
[09:39] <jenda> Probably. I'm very happy with breezy - and I know I'll be VERY happy if I strain my patience and wait till the final release of Dapper... ah... I can't wait
[09:39] <Quan-Time> q3 doesnt work eitehr
[09:39] <goonie> dli~ hmm.... not sure I see your point. How will that help me with this problem?
[09:39] <ayabara> has anyone here used the ext2 driver for windows (www.fs-driver.org)? I need this during my transition fase to linux, and I'm not very eager to lose data
[09:39] <marsh> roryy, posted
[09:39] <marsh> !
[09:39] <ubotu> marsh: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <dai> why when i type the command to install mp3 support it gets a message of Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:40] <Madpilot> Quan-Time, hmm - sound in ET is odd sometimes... whether it starts or not is a bit of a gamble :P
[09:40] <mo0se> !ntfs
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:40] <roryy> marsh: it's traditional to paste the url here ;)
[09:40] <Quan-Time> im not a gambling man tho Madpilot. thats the problem
[09:40] <dli> goonie, you can build the nic driver in kernel, so, it's always enabled
[09:40] <MenZa> ayabara: I've had FS-Driver recommended quite a few times
[09:41] <roryy> marsh: you have the required keys
[09:41] <holycow> both lmms and hydrogend are very cool
[09:41] <holycow> neato
[09:41] <ayabara> MenZa: it should handle both read and write ok?
[09:41] <roryy> marsh: why did you think you had lost them ?
[09:41] <jenda> ayabara: it's easier to use FAT32 on a small part of your disk as a transition media between your windows and your linux.
[09:41] <goonie> dli~ I see.
[09:41] <MenZa> ayabara: Yes, so I hear
[09:41] <Quan-Time> can anyone suggest a good (GUI) torrent client ?
[09:41] <marsh> roryy, sorry... bit ignorant to these things yet... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13116
[09:42] <dli> goonie, also, you can get a newer kernel, in which the driver problem is already fixed
[09:42] <roryy> marsh: yeah, i found it ;).  See my previous comments.
[09:42] <holycow> what jenda said, usually you don't need a lot either
[09:42] <MenZa> Someone should put up a rule about not apologising; I mean, we've all had problems.  GPG error... ...error executing gpgv
[09:42] <roryy> marsh: well, the problem is evidently not lost keys
[09:43] <roryy> marsh: can you paste the entire error up on the pastebin ?
[09:43] <ayabara> jenda: I know. problem is that I have a lot of data on an external hd that I need acess to from both worlds until I'm ready to ditch windows
[09:43] <jenda> MenZa: hmm... recently I tried skyping with my microphone unplugged... I don't think I'll ever get angry at a noob again...
[09:43] <dli> marsh, ubuntu got to find an way for auto key
[09:43] <kIOski> anyome here runs flashfxp using wine ???
[09:43] <MenZa> jenda: hahahaha
[09:43] <jenda> ayabara: FAT32 is you ranswer
[09:43] <roryy> marsh: also, can you put the output of 'sudo apt-get check' up there too ?
[09:43] <MenZa> Where's the grub config located? I keep forgetting
[09:43] <holycow> jenda, rofl
[09:43] <roryy> MenZa: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <MenZa> ta
[09:44] <dli> ayabara, there's an ext2fsd project on sourceforge, which is stable to use in windows
[09:44] <ayabara> jenda: but I can't convert ntfs to fat32 without losing my data? I've heard that "tragic" has an error percentage of about 20 in this operation...
[09:44] <dli> MenZa, debian has a command, 'update-grub"
[09:45] <holycow> ayabara, i wouldn't either
[09:45] <MenZa> dli: oh?
[09:45] <MenZa> Well I fixed it now
[09:45] <dli> ayabara, I don't trust live conversion
[09:45] <jenda> no, ayabara, I wouldn't ecommend that. But you still need to convert that drive to a usable FS, and NTFS is not the one.
[09:45] <exn> does anyone has intel pro wireless 2100  working  ?
[09:45] <MenZa> Having 8 entries is pretty annoying ;\
[09:45] <sethk> ayabara, it's a very very dangerous thing to do.  you heard correctly
[09:45] <MenZa> Any cool stuff with today's dist-upgrade?
[09:45] <MenZa> err
[09:45] <MenZa> That's for dapper
[09:45] <jenda> ayabara: so I would recommend moving all the data somewhere, formatting, and moving back
[09:45] <MenZa> ;p
[09:45] <tritium> exn: it is known to work, yes
[09:45] <ayabara> dli: ok. thx
[09:46] <dli> exn,  you need to package for firmware, and then, just modprobe ipw2100
[09:46] <Quan-Time> anyone ? good torrent client for dapper ? (supporting mulitple torrents in the one GUI)
[09:46] <holycow> MenZa, not relaly, regular updates
[09:46] <dli> Quan-Time, a bloated one, azureus
[09:46] <meshe> Quan-Time: azureus should work fine
[09:46] <fid> does ubuntu breezy support flash player 8?
[09:46] <MenZa> holycow: oh, that's alright.
[09:46] <MenZa> :)
[09:46] <Quan-Time> dli, i said GOOD.. i dont like az...
[09:46] <jenda> Quan-Time: Azureus is great, but it uses Java, unfoncho.
[09:46] <Quan-Time> i liked bitcomet on win32
[09:46] <dli> meshe, solved your nic problem?
[09:47] <jenda> Quan-Time: ah...
[09:47] <Quan-Time> does utorrent have a nix port ?
[09:47] <ayabara> jenda: It's starting to look like the puzzle where you have to row a mouse, a cat and a dog across a river but only have room in the boat for one at a time
[09:47] <Quan-Time> as utorrent is az.. without the java dependancy
[09:47] <fid> bitcomet is the best
[09:47] <holycow> nuffin wrong with java ... let many flowers bloom :0
[09:47] <jenda> Quan-Time: I heard about Rufus - a FOSS mulitclient, but never tried.
[09:47] <holycow> :)
[09:47] <dli> Quan-Time, azureus is good, if you have dual-core + 4GB ram
[09:47] <fid> anyone flash8 ?
[09:47] <Quan-Time> dli, 2gb ram.. not 4 sorry.
[09:47] <jenda> ayabara: exactly. I had that time of problem zilions of times.
[09:47] <roryy> marsh: i see you pasted something up there, but there are no errors -- is everything working now ?
[09:47] <holycow> lol, dudes don't be just elitists :) man
[09:47] <holycow> hehe
[09:47] <Madpilot> fid, no Flash 8 for Linux
[09:47] <meshe> dli: compiling now
[09:47] <fid> lame
[09:48] <fid> hah
[09:48] <meshe> make-dpkg
[09:48] <meshe> er, make-kpkg
[09:48] <dli> meshe, good, you didn't do "make"
[09:48] <poningru> I can vouch for rufus
[09:48] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13118
[09:48] <holycow> fid, its what happens when one depends on commercial companies for support ...
[09:48] <poningru> the stability is ok
[09:48] <meshe> nah, i was smart enough to read the wiki first
[09:48] <holycow> fid, its an excellent example of where open source excells
[09:48] <poningru> but its on par with utorrent when it comes to resource usage
[09:48] <marsh> roryy, the 2> errror output is the one i just pasted here...
[09:49] <roryy> marsh: ok, fair enough
[09:49] <marsh> it comes up after the no errors output
[09:49] <roryy> marsh: let me do what i should have done earlier, and run that myself
[09:49] <dli> meshe, sorry for asking, I really didn't expect many "smart" users in ubuntu
[09:49] <meshe> the only way to get debs on this machine tho is to burn them to a cd first on my laptop and move it over
[09:49] <marsh> roryy, sorry - am a bit slow... it's the frustration/confusion bubbling up !
[09:50] <dli> meshe, you have no usb-memory or usb-hdd?
[09:50] <meshe> dli: not sure how to take that ;)
[09:50] <roryy> marsh: no problem
[09:50] <ayabara> jenda: I got wat I wanted from you ;-)
[09:50] <ayabara> jenda: thanks
[09:50] <fid> meh
[09:50] <fid> time for bed
[09:50] <dli> meshe, usb-flash memory is cheap nowadays
[09:50] <holycow> and indespensable
[09:50] <luisito> /join #prueba
[09:51] <marsh> roryy, it's just me! :(
[09:51] <holycow> you can now get 2 gig sticks for affordable $
[09:51] <meshe> dli: yeah, i did have a thumb drive, but it died on me
[09:51] <luisito> ...
[09:51] <meshe> dli: i've just been using a multisession cd and k3b
[09:51] <dli> holycow, ubuntu should provide liveusb images too
[09:52] <ayabara> If I want to live in a dual boot world, my whole external hd should be formatted as FAT32?
[09:52] <meshe> that would be kewl
[09:52] <holycow> dli, *nod* i wouldn't be surprised to see that show up eventually
[09:52] <dli> meshe, btw, what's the current kernel? "uname -a"
[09:52] <holycow> altho ... i'm not sure how good of an idea that is ...
[09:52] <holycow> theoretically one can burn flash sticks in seconds if something goes wrong
[09:52] <dli> holycow, what format would be convenient for both linux/windows users
[09:52] <roryy> marsh: hmm, no, it's working here
[09:53] <Quan-Time> so yer.. sound in games.. any suggestions ?
[09:53] <holycow> fat32 is the only one that really is that transient
[09:53] <meshe> dli: 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[09:53] <Quan-Time> do i need the nforce drivers ?
[09:53] <dli> meshe, quite old
[09:53] <dli> meshe, however, should be more than enough to support your nics
[09:53] <meshe> my nics are supported
[09:54] <hajuu_> what do I need to do to setup an ident for irc?
[09:54] <meshe> there's just something really screwy with them and the breezy install
[09:54] <dli> meshe, you are compiling an ubuntu kernel or vanilla?
[09:54] <roryy> marsh: you did try clearing out /var/lib/apt/lists/ ?
[09:54] <ayabara> I thought about having half the hd as ext3 and use one of the ext-fs drivers for windows. when all I have on the drive is video/audio/images/docs, are there really any huuge disadvantages to using FAT32?
[09:54] <marsh> roryy, yes... same problem...
[09:55] <meshe> dli: ubuntu, i dld'd the src kernel deb and worked from there
[09:55] <holycow> ayabara, from last look, all of those are read only
[09:55] <marsh> roryy, had to put the 'partial' dir bak though! just as well i moved it..!
[09:55] <roryy> marsh: ah. but did you clear it out ?
[09:55] <ayabara> holycow: www.fs-driver.org claims write support, doesn't it?
[09:55] <marsh> roryy, the partial dir?
[09:56] <roryy> marsh: yip. i mean, its contents
[09:56] <exn> where do i put the ipw2100 firmware ?
[09:56] <marsh> ok... sorry - my ignorance again... back in a min.
[09:56] <meshe> dli: if this works, i'm going to have to do this everytime i want to upgrade the kernel aren't i?
[09:56] <dli> meshe, oh, one point I wanted to make, since ubuntu is giving trouble, it worths to try vanilla
[09:56] <tritium> exn: you don't need to worry about that.  it "just works"
[09:57] <dli> meshe, you can try where the ubuntu pre-built kernel works, if it doesn't you can always retreat
[09:57] <chewy> i need to configure samba how would a guy do tha
[09:57] <exn> tritium, i can't make it work
[09:57] <Stork> hi, i'm having some problems with ATI drivers. When I start GDM it just says '(EE) No devices detected' :|
[09:57] <ayabara> holycow: anyway. if there isn't any huge drawbacks to having a 300GiG disk in FAT32 format, that is the way to go I think
[09:57] <Stork> chewy: #samba
[09:57] <holycow> ayabara, well i guess i'm horribly wrong :) that looks cool, i've always ended up using fat32, but ext3 would be much nicer
[09:58] <meshe> dli: ubuntu keeps the older kernel versions in the grub menu doesn't it?
[09:58] <chewy> how do i get swat to work?
[09:58] <ayabara> holycow: :-) , is there a 20 word explanation for why ext3 would be cooler for a "storage disk"?
[09:58] <dj-fu> Stork, which ATI drivers, fglrx?
[09:58] <holycow> ayabara, windows wont like such a large fat32 disk ... ext3 would be much better as it has journaling
[09:58] <Stork> yes dj-fu
[09:59] <dj-fu> Stork, are they loaded in your kernel
[09:59] <holycow> ayabara, thx for the heads up on that win ext project, thats cool
[09:59] <dli> meshe, it keeps all installed kernels, grub is simply "update-grub"
[09:59] <roryy> marsh: ok, i have a (long!) command so we can see what the gpg error actually is
[09:59] <Stork> dj-fu: they're in /etc/modules
[09:59] <dj-fu> Stork, lsmod|grep fglrx
[09:59] <Stork> dj-fu: my card is a Radeon Mobility 7500 - is that supported?
[09:59] <chewy> How do i get swat to load in the web browser
[09:59] <dj-fu> not a clue sorry
[10:00] <ayabara> holycow: np. some bloke in another forum claimed to have used it error-free for a long time
[10:00] <dj-fu> best to check the glrx changelog
[10:00] <Stork> dj-fu: the command you said didn't show any results
[10:00] <meshe> well, make-kpkg just failed
[10:00] <dj-fu> then you'll need to modprobe fglrx
[10:00] <dj-fu> and/or modprobe -r the existing modules for your card
[10:00] <meshe> i think i'm going to have to tackle this tommorow
[10:00] <dj-fu> (ati, dri, drm, whatever.)
[10:00] <roryy> marsh: the command is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13119
[10:01] <immolo> Stork, I've got a feelig your card is supported by an open source drive
[10:01] <Stork> immolo: hmm? which one(s)
[10:01] <chewy> How do i configure swat
[10:01] <immolo> google for "ati 7500 llinux
[10:01] <immolo> "
[10:01] <leggy> hello...i have a problem with the hotplug subsystem: after installing the hda sound drivers, ubuntu don't boot correctly! the boot process stops at hotplug subsystem. i solved the problem by editing the /etc/hotplug/blacklist, where i inserted hda-snd-intel and hda_snd_codec! but i have no sound because of this! :\ does anyone know this problem?
[10:01] <dli> meshe, how it failed :(
[10:01] <roryy> marsh: the other thing is to check your /etc/apt/sources.list -- can you put that on the pastebin too ?
[10:03] <meshe> dli: drivers/i2c/i2c-core.c is where it failed
[10:03] <meshe> i'm going to dl the latest vanilla and start the compile and go to bed
[10:04] <dli> meshe, right, vanilla is more stable
[10:04] <hajuu_> How the hell do I get an ident server working with irc??
[10:04] <hajuu_> I cant figure it out
[10:04] <dli> meshe, can you disable i2c for the moment
[10:04] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13120
[10:04] <meshe> are there any patches i'm going need from the ubuntu version?
[10:04] <hajuu_> !ident
[10:04] <ubotu> hajuu_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:04] <dli> hajuu_, what do you mean?
[10:04] <Seveas> hajuu_, sudo apt-get install pidentd. Done.
[10:05] <marsh> i emptied partial - same problem though...
[10:05] <immolo> hajuu_, oident also allows computers in your network to ident
[10:05] <dli> meshe, without patch, vanilla kernel just works
[10:05] <chewy> how do i work swat for samba ?
[10:05] <meshe> dli: kewl
[10:05] <roryy> marsh: hmm, looks ok
[10:05] <Seveas> !swat
[10:05] <ubotu> swat is probably Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[10:06] <hajuu_> ok pident installed.. but how do I use it?
[10:06] <hajuu_> and set my details?
[10:06] <roryy> marsh: can you run the gpg command i put on the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13119
[10:06] <chewy> ok thanks
[10:06] <roryy> marsh: maybe we can see what gpg's problem is
[10:06] <Seveas> hajuu_, read through /usr/share/doc/pidentd/
[10:06] <immolo> hajuu_, man pidentd
[10:06] <chewy> file not found the swat addy is wrong
[10:07] <Quan-Time> supposidly   artsdsp -m quake3.x86 fixes the q3 sound issues.. but i dont have it.. worth installing to try ?
[10:07] <hajuu_> root@dcportal:/home/hajuu # man pidentd
[10:07] <hajuu_> No manual entry for pidentd
[10:07] <lianghu> did anyone use ELDK for arm compiling on Ubuntu???
[10:09] <marsh> roryy, does that take a while? or has it hung (the first line - i'm assuming the others are output)
[10:09] <Madpilot> later all
[10:09] <mo0se> !vlc
[10:09] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[10:09] <roryy> marsh: no, should be instantaneous
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: on, no, it's all one command
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: the '# run this ...' is a comment
[10:10] <marsh> roryy, sorry - i'm typing it!
[10:10] <mo0se> ubuntu is debian, right?
[10:10] <chewy> nope
[10:10] <roryy> marsh: hmm. cut-and-paste, if possible...
[10:10] <marsh> <-- feeling a bit daft, roryy
[10:10] <mo0se> what is it?
[10:10] <goodwill> errr
[10:11] <goodwill> any advice why ubuntu installer is not detected my sata drive?
[10:11] <goodwill> is that support not comiled into the installer kernel?
[10:11] <roryy> !debian
[10:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[10:12] <dj-fu> goodwill, usually works, what chipset sata controller?
[10:13] <kIOski> which command for see which kernel i have ??
[10:13] <goodwill> kIOski: uname -a
[10:13] <roryy> kIOski: uname -r
[10:13] <kIOski> thx
[10:13] <Quan-Time> best way to extract a tar file.. tar -vzf [filename]  ?!
[10:13] <Quan-Time> was that it ?
[10:13] <roryy> Quan-Time: you need x for extract
[10:13] <roryy> Quan-Time: the z is for tar.gz files
[10:13] <Quan-Time> UH HUH !!!
[10:13] <Quan-Time> cheers
[10:13] <luisito> where can I find information to make the progress bar animated?
[10:14] <Seveas> luisito, drink enough alcohol =)
[10:14] <Seveas> luisito, or install a custom theme, the progress bars in the Ubuntu theme can't be animated
[10:14] <goodwill> dj-fu: SiS I think
[10:14] <luisito> Seveas: jejeje :D
[10:15] <roryy> Seveas: marsh is seeing this on 'apt-get update' -- any ideas ? he's cleard out /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/lib/apt/lists/partial, but it's still happening.
[10:15] <luisito> Seveas: but I think in hoary where animated sometime, or I am wrong?
[10:15] <Seveas> roryy, 'this' being?
[10:15] <Seveas> luisito, yes they were. They disabled it
[10:16] <Quan-Time> its a .tar.gz2
[10:16] <Quan-Time> tar.bz2 even
[10:16] <roryy> Seveas: *cough* oops: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13118
[10:16] <luisito> Seveas: and I can't make it that way again?
[10:16] <Seveas> luisito, recompile
[10:16] <marsh> roryy, Seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13121 is from the gpg command
[10:16] <roryy> Quan-Time: tar xjvf
[10:16] <Seveas> with --enable-animation oslt
[10:17] <luisito> Seveas: forget it.  :D
[10:17] <hajuu_> ok still cant get my ident working with irc... I need my address to be lolatyou2@hostmask for the bots in a chan on another network will recognize me...
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: hmm
[10:17] <marsh> this feels like it's going somewhere... ;)))
[10:17] <marsh> Oh.... :(
[10:17] <Seveas> marsh, may simple be a server error
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: well, the file is missing
[10:17] <mo0se> !m4a
[10:17] <ubotu> mo0se: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:17] <roryy> marsh: what does 'ls security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_Release.gpg' say ?
[10:18] <mo0se> is there no way to play .m4a's in ubuntu?
[10:18] <Seveas> marsh, ls -alr /var/lib/apt/lists, output on pastebin
[10:18] <Seveas> luisito, disable that away messaging crap!
[10:18] <dj-fu> goodwill,
[10:18] <dj-fu> modprobe sata_sis
[10:19] <marsh> roryy, no such file
[10:19] <roryy> Seveas: gb.archive.ubuntu.com, which he's using, is the same as archive.ubuntu.com -- i think a server error is unlikely there.
[10:19] <hajuu_> ok still cant get my ident working with irc... I need my address to be lolatyou2@hostmask for the bots in a chan on another network will recognize me...
[10:19] <roryy> marsh: ok. odd. can you do what seveas requested?
[10:19] <lolownik> Hello, can You give me any pointers for Ubuntu install over nfs (machine with no cd)
[10:19] <goodwill> dj-fu: done, what do sata devices look like under /dev ? sd* ? and such?
[10:19] <dj-fu> yes
[10:19] <dj-fu> sd*
[10:20] <Seveas> lolownik, wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:20] <goodwill> dj-fu: modprobed it see none of those
[10:20] <lolownik> thx
[10:20] <roryy> marsh (and Seveas): I remember once actually copying a .gpg file from /var/lib/lists/partial/  to /var/lib/lists/  -- everything was ok, but for some reason the file got stuck in partial/
[10:20] <goodwill> dj-fu: mayeb if I specify it at boot
[10:20] <dj-fu> goodwill, you shouldn't need to. lsmod|grep scsi?
[10:21] <goodwill> scsi_mod 2 libata, usb_storage
[10:21] <marsh> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13123
[10:21] <dj-fu> hurm
[10:21] <dj-fu> I'm sorry, I don't know.
[10:22] <goodwill> I think I foudn a debian bug on this
[10:22] <Seveas> marsh, odd, all gpg files are missing
[10:22] <roryy> indeed
[10:23] <marsh> Seveas, could this bedue to a dpkg -i fialing on deps?
[10:23] <Seveas> no
[10:23] <roryy> Seveas: did you mean -R ?
[10:23] <kimrhh> hi, a couple of questions... a USB keyboard not working in grub? and when I try to attach a usb-disk, nothing happens
[10:24] <roryy> marsh: could you try that again, but 'ls -laR' this time ?
[10:24] <Fujitsu> Seveas ran away!
[10:24] <roryy> marsh: that is, 'ls -laR /var/lib/apt/lists'
[10:25] <marsh> roryy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13125
[10:25] <roryy> marsh: the Release.gpg file *is* on the server (you can see it here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/) so, I don't think it's a server problem
[10:26] <cyphase> is there a panel applet who's purpose it is to keep other applets next to each other in the panel
[10:26] <cyphase> so, you put applets into this applet, then you move the container applet arround, and everything inside it stays together
[10:26] <roryy> marsh: ah-ha! do you see the .gpg files in partial/ there ?
[10:26] <marsh> roryy, neither do i, 's why i cameto you guys... google only offers server probs solutions
[10:26] <Method7> guys quick question, am using a centrino laptop with an integrated graphics card, will xgl work
[10:27] <dj-fu> what graphics
[10:27] <goodwill> dj-fu: apparantly asus has some drivers for that, I might figuresomething out
[10:27] <goodwill> dj-fu: thanks
[10:27] <roryy> marsh: ok, i'm going to update that gpg command from earlier
[10:27] <dj-fu> goodwill, good luck ;]
[10:27] <mo0se> what's the best music player for ubuntu?
[10:27] <MenZa> I prefer Listen personally
[10:27] <takedown> amarok
[10:27] <holycow> mo0se, open up synaptic and look in the multimedia category
[10:27] <Flannel> m0zone: there is no "best", its personal preference
[10:27] <takedown> ah, ubuntu :)
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> does anyone know what pakage contains the file system structure (/bin, /lib, etc)?
[10:28] <roryy> marsh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13127
[10:28] <Flannel> blAckEn3d: huh?
[10:28] <holycow> mo0se, there are tons of them
[10:28] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13126
[10:28] <roryy> marsh: almost the same as before, i've just added 'partial/' to the beginning of the first filename
[10:28] <doms> i want to delete rows
[10:28] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13126
[10:28] <marsh> roryy, yes, i see them.... hang on - i'll be right back
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> Flannel, when you install your system, isn't there a package that just contains the file system structure?
[10:29] <Flannel> no.  That's part of the installer.
[10:29] <blAckEn3d> Flannel, okay, thanks :)
[10:29] <mo0se> holycow, yeah i see...
[10:29] <Yon> hey all
[10:29] <blAckEn3d> bye
[10:29] <mo0se> but i'm just wondering what are some of the good ones...
[10:29] <mo0se> well... better ones...
[10:29] <Yon> im trying to copy from one mounted hdd to a ext mounted hdd, and i get an error saying oculd not creat folder
[10:30] <Yon> **counld not create**
[10:30] <kimrhh> could anyone help me getting usb-mass-storage to work in ubuntu?
[10:31] <Get_A_Fix> hello
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: yeah there is a patch from SiS available from this chipset that has not made it into the current kernel tree yet
[10:31] <dj-fu> ah
[10:31] <dj-fu> you may have to do a custom kernel build to get it running then
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: so I'll apply it and recompile a kernel, but one cd is now a coaster here
[10:31] <goodwill> dj-fu: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/03/msg01020.html
[10:32] <Get_A_Fix> could anyone help with installing Ekiga please?
[10:33] <dj-fu> afk, good luck
[10:34] <marsh> roryy, http://ubuntu-nl.org/13128 - sorry - i've lost my mouse... gonna shut down... be back in 2 mins...
[10:35] <Yon> im trying to copy from one mounted hdd to a ext mounted hdd, and i get an error saying 'could not create folder', both HDD's r NTFS
[10:36] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu doesn't do NTFS writing.
[10:36] <Fujitsu> Neither do other Linuces.
[10:37] <Yon> :/ so there is nothing i can do about that?
[10:38] <eirich> anyone still awake?
[10:38] <goodwill> dj-fu: hmmm.. the patch made is way in 2.6.14-rc2
[10:38] <Get_A_Fix> Yon: not really, NTFS drives are readable only
[10:38] <goodwill> that should be helpful
[10:38] <Flannel> Yon: not yet.
[10:38] <goodwill> eirich: no...noone is awake
[10:38] <goodwill> :-P
[10:39] <eirich> wouldn't you know as soon as i hit enter, i started seeing messages from others
[10:40] <eirich> i was just wondering if anyone here has had any issues keeping ubuntu connected to internet wirelessly
[10:40] <dli> eirich, ask your question :(
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> eirich : my access point goes kinda off when nothing is on it, so i keep irc or something open
[10:41] <amorphous_> roryy, back... sorry about that, it's on my list...
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> or gmail which refreshes all the time
[10:41] <eirich> hmm.
[10:41] <eirich> i may have to try that
[10:41] <amorphous_> roryy, i miss anything?
[10:41] <roryy> amorphous_: nope.  did you run that command in the /var/lib/apt/lists directory ?
[10:42] <eirich> even when i'm ssh'd into my ubuntu box from my laptop downstairs i still get disconnected
[10:42] <roryy> amorphous_: the shouldn't have been a file not found error
[10:42] <amorphous_> yes - same error.... was there no pastebin link before I shutdown? hang on, i'll get it
[10:42] <thomas__> Could anyone help me connect to the net? I'm a newbie with Ubuntu
[10:42] <eirich> i haven't been able to time it to see if it's a regular occurance.
[10:43] <dli> thomas__, don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:43] <eirich> right now it seems to be random but happens often
[10:43] <roryy> amorphous_: i got the link
[10:43] <Get_A_Fix> could anyone help with installing Ekiga please, we've downloaded the deb files but can't seem to find install instructions anywhere ?
[10:43] <amorphous_> oh... that's not good, is it :(
[10:43] <roryy> amorphous_: but that file definitely exists -- i can see it in the ls -laR output
[10:43] <dli> Get_A_Fix, for .deb files, try, "dpkg -i foo.deb"
[10:43] <eirich> it's running on a desktop with a wireless card installed.
[10:44] <eirich> i used linuxant to make use of the card's drivers
[10:44] <thomas__> Allright. Ubuntu seems to find both my wlan card, and my ethernet card just fine. However, it won't recieve DHCP or get contact with my router when I set the ip manually
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: i think you typed the name wrong
[10:44] <soulfreshner> is there some way to know what the name is of a program in the menu (the name of the executable)
[10:44] <amorphous_> ok... hang on...
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: it's security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_Release , not security.ubuntu.com_dists_breezy-security_Release\
[10:44] <rafflesdude> hey im new to unbuntu, i cant change my screen resolution from 640
[10:44] <roryy> amorphous_: i strongly recommend cut-and-pasting stuff from the pastebin -- can you do that ?
[10:44] <rafflesdude> *480
[10:45] <dli> thomas__, you want dhcp or static?
[10:45] <soulfreshner> it would be even better if there were some way to know from the running program by using ps or something
[10:45] <roryy> amorphous_: to paste in the terminal, right-click -> Paste
[10:45] <polpak> !tell rafflesdude about resolution
[10:45] <eirich> if i go to the network preferences i can restart the wlan0 and it begins to work again for maybe 5 minutes then down again.
[10:45] <fable> hello
[10:45] <mikomiko> Is there any software similar to Gmail notifier in windows
[10:45] <fable> some italian?
[10:45] <thomas__> dli: I want either, just as long as it works
[10:45] <roryy> !it
[10:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <fable> thanks
[10:46] <dli> thomas__, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:46] <Iskandar> i need some help
[10:46] <fable> i've a problem with my ATI radeon 9200
[10:46] <fable> i need some help
[10:46] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptop asus
[10:46] <dli> thomas__, or you can try the GUI tool in the System menu
[10:47] <dli> Iskandar, asus supports linux quite well
[10:48] <fable> when i lunch fgl_glxgears i've low FPS
[10:48] <fable> help
[10:48] <Iskandar> i would like to install ubuntu on a laptot asus
[10:48] <thomas__> dli: If you mean the network tool, I've tried everything in order to set it up, and I don't see any reason why it shouldn't
[10:48] <Iskandar> some suggestion about that
[10:48] <Iskandar> ?
[10:49] <dli> thomas__, okay, sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[10:49] <pangbh> hello all
[10:49] <fable> there is 677 people, where are all???
[10:49] <thomas__> dli: done
[10:49] <pangbh> my ubuntu is breezy
[10:49] <pangbh> how to use virtual desktop
[10:49] <Get_A_Fix> dli: thanks, run with sudo right ? would you know in what order to process the files ?
[10:49] <Iskandar> cause someone told me that not all the peripheric are recognized
[10:50] <amorphous_> roryy, didn't know about the pasting thing - thanks for that. I been 2> to a file and gediting it to get it to the clipboard! --- here's the paste... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13129
[10:50] <paris> ?
[10:50] <Iskandar> someone installed ubuntu on his laptop?
[10:50] <jerusalem> running breezy. which one of these do i want? Linux RPM (self-extracting file)
[10:50] <jerusalem> (filesize: 15.47 MB), Linux (self-extracting file), Linux AMD64** Linux AMD64 RPM** ?
[10:50] <roryy> amorphous_: ok, first 'cd /var/lib/apt/lists' and try again
[10:51] <dli> thomas__,  put the device you want auto after lo to make it "auto lo eth0"
[10:51] <dli> thomas__, or whatever, if it's not eth0
[10:51] <doms> $result=mysql_query("select * from profile where name=$_view['name'] ");
[10:51] <jerusalem> anyone?
[10:52] <jerusalem> simple question really
[10:52] <doms> $result=mysql_query("select * from profile where name=$_view['name'] ");
[10:52] <roryy> doms: try #mysql
[10:52] <roryy> doms: and *please* stop repeating yourself
[10:52] <Iskandar> someone installed ubuntu on his laptop?
[10:52] <Fry3001> jerusalem, talking about vmware?
[10:52] <Iskandar> ok noone installed ubuntu on his laptop!
[10:52] <soulfreshner> doms - it's a problem in your mysql query - you are missing single quotes
[10:52] <roryy> Iskandar: please be patient.  Have you search for 'laptop' on wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[10:52] <Iskandar> bye bye
[10:53] <Iskandar> yes of course
[10:53] <jerusalem> java
[10:53] <Iskandar> i love java
[10:53] <Fry3001> ah
[10:53] <roryy> !java
[10:53] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:53] <Fry3001> i took the .bin and made a .deb with java-package
[10:53] <ubuntu> elo
[10:53] <jerusalem> thanks for the link
[10:53] <ubuntu> huje
[10:53] <dli> thomas__, and, iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:54] <ubuntu> how to lunch a  comunicator?
[10:54] <amorphous_> this could be good news! -- though a tad gutting if it's the reason why... I have a battery problem & keep losing the system time...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13131
[10:54] <amorphous_> want me to reset the system time?
[10:55] <amorphous_> roryy, see above - sorry forgot yr name
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: yeah, looks like you'll need to
[10:55] <Iskandar> come back in a while
[10:55] <Iskandar> bye
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: bizarre error
[10:55] <amorphous_> back in a minute
[10:55] <roryy> amorphous_: the screensaver may kick in (!)
[10:55] <amorphous_> roryy, could og
[10:56] <thomas__> dli: done. I'll see if it works
[10:56] <amorphous_> roryy, could, of course, be my time machine experiment i have going on in the kitchen... maybe I have warped!
[10:56] <kimrhh> how do I upgrade my Ubuntu to the latest packages?
[10:56] <soundray> How can I interrupt a mysql query from the commandline, without Ctrl-C'ing the whole client process?
[10:56] <dli> thomas__, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:56] <roryy> heh
[10:56] <dli> thomas__, sudo ifconfig -a
[10:57] <Yon> amorphous, is it possible to compy from one NTFS hdd to another NTFS hdd?
[10:58] <Yon> oh , lol he left...
[10:58] <VK2NA> bye
[10:58] <soundray> Yon: only if you have write access to the second NTFS partition.
[10:58] <roryy> Yon: you can't write to ntfs from linux
[10:59] <Yon> soundray... how do i get write access...?
[11:00] <jerusalem> thanks for the help all. peace
[11:01] <soundray> Yon: like roryy said, you can't write to NTFS -- at least not safely. If you're prepared to take a risk, search for Captive NTFS
[11:01] <maz> has anyone else had trouble with loading pictures onto ebay??
[11:02] <maz> ?
[11:02] <Yon> ok... im just gona have to acept the fact ... thx
[11:02] <dli> soundray, any chance for the new winfs ?
[11:02] <curley_sue> HELP! I made a huge error - "sudo rm /mountpoint" how can I restore lost data (no reboot has been done yet)
[11:03] <Yon> why is NTFS  not used in linux and only windows?
[11:03] <dli> curley_sue, rm /mountpoint won't do any demage
[11:03] <dli> curley_sue, unless you did "rm -rf"
[11:03] <jareth_> Yon: lisence issues?
[11:03] <Yon> oh right.. ok
[11:03] <soundray> Yon: because it is closed software.
[11:03] <curley_sue> dli, did "sudo rm -R /..."
[11:04] <Yon> so there is nothing wrong with it
[11:04] <Yon> k, thanks for the help guys
[11:04] <thomas__> dli: When I do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says fail
[11:04] <maz> can it actually be that I'm the ONLY person who can't load photos onto ebay??
[11:05] <dli> curley_sue, too late :(
[11:05] <dli> curley_sue, if the data is critical, turn off the computer right now
[11:06] <curley_sue> dli is there no way to restore (since I haven't restarted yet);  I <ctrl>-c in the middle
[11:06] <dli> thomas__, go over your /etc/network/interfaces , correct possible errors
[11:06] <dli> curley_sue, too late, turn off computer is the only way
[11:06] <curley_sue> dli why should I turn off?!
[11:06] <dli> curley_sue, then, you make disk image of the disk, and recover from it
[11:07] <maz> can it actually be that I'm the ONLY person who can't load photos onto ebay??
[11:07] <dli> curley_sue, your computer may do more demage to your data when it's running
[11:07] <Fujitsu> Is it another partition to your root, curley_sue?
[11:07] <roryy> maz: this is an ubuntu support channel; perhaps you should contact ebay tech support.
[11:07] <Fujitsu> If so, you need to unmount it immediately.
[11:08] <dli> Fujitsu, you can't unmount /
[11:08] <Fujitsu> It is /, is it?
[11:08] <maz> roryy sorry if that's irritating people, but i've never had this problem on Windows so I can only conclude that Ubuntu is at fault
[11:08] <amorphous_> now there's a thing.... perfect! roryy, yr a gent. thank you.
[11:08] <curley_sue> dli Fujitsu it's an archive partition (FAT32 format done by Win32). only archive files...
[11:08] <soundray> dli: winfs will have to be reverse engineered to access it from Linux. Probably a major task, and dangerous, from a legal point of view.
[11:08] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu, it's an archive partition (FAT32 format done by Win32). only archive files...
[11:08] <Fujitsu> OK.
[11:08] <Fujitsu> You need to unmount it immediately.
[11:08] <Fujitsu> sudo umount /mountpoint
[11:09] <Fujitsu> If it's FAT32, you're probably in luck.
[11:09] <dli> curley_sue, easy, fat32 can be easily recovered
[11:09] <Fujitsu> It's ext3 that's a problem.
[11:09] <danny-khi> I want to Grub Menu and Place Windows as the first and default choice in the boot loader menu. How I can do this? Please do not refer me to a webpage as I am currently unable to browser any webpage
[11:09] <Fujitsu> FAT32 recovery is trivial.
[11:09] <dli> soundray, I won't touch it anyway
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> hi
[11:10] <Fujitsu> WinFS is just silly.
[11:10] <Fujitsu> Hi, Edgy_Eft.
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> my sound device crashed
[11:10] <roryy> amorphous_: cool beans
[11:10] <amorphous_> hope I havent completely wasted your time and really sorry if i've been a pita. hopefully it'l all come in handy - it will if i see it again. I'm now off to post this on some forum's i seen earlier
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> in ephipanty i got a beeb on an 404 site
[11:10] <amorphous_> roryy, above... and thanks again for your time...
[11:10] <Edgy_Eft> but last time i got a scratch noise and my sound is dead
[11:11] <amorphous_> yr a bloody genius!!! ;)
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> i just booted
[11:11] <roryy> amorphous_: i think explaning how to use gpg to test what the error actually is may be most useful for others.
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> and i can hear noise on my speakers while turnig sound to maximum
[11:11] <roryy> amorphous_: nah, had more experience breaking computers ;)
[11:11] <amorphous_> ok - i'll include it.
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> but i get no boot melody
[11:11] <Edgy_Eft> any ideas?
[11:11] <kremsner> hy@all
[11:12] <amorphous_> roryy, well... I'm geting closer!!! lol
[11:12] <kremsner> a question... where is the directory of GAIM? Where are the Buddy Alerts....?
[11:12] <kremsner> Can I manage them with Gaim?
[11:12] <amorphous_> <-- giggling a lot like a kid as the tension eases...
[11:12] <kremsner> I just can add new alarms... but not delete old ones
[11:13] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, dli, umount done. what's nxt?
[11:14] <Fujitsu> I've never had to recover FAT32 under Linux... Do you have a Windows installation around?
[11:14] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, I have, it's a dual-boot laptop...
[11:14] <Fujitsu> OK...
[11:14] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[11:15] <OffHand> hi. what's the way to go to let fsck actually repair a hd?
[11:15] <Fujitsu> I've forgotten what tool I used to use....
[11:15] <dli> curley_sue, don't write to the disk, to fsck, don't do any, read first, http://www.scheler.com/fatrecovery/
[11:15] <curley_sue> Fujitsu, dli , didn't u say FAT32 recovery is trivial?
[11:15] <Fujitsu> If you have the right software, it's a matter of a couple of clicks.
[11:16] <Fujitsu> The software is pretty simple, it's just got to interpret large amounts of data.
[11:16] <kremsner> Anyone uses GAIM?
[11:16] <dli> curley_sue, trivial doesn't mean you can make mistake here :) don't do anything, first, read, understand, and set up your plan
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Yes, kremsner.
[11:16] <rafflesdude> hey how do i login as the administrator to remove the settings of a system file from it's read only status
[11:16] <kremsner> Fujitsu Can I manage my Buddy Alarms somehow?
[11:16] <dli> kremsner, I think "apt-cache search gaim" can find the package you need for gaim features
[11:16] <soulfreshner> if I run the application 'Network Servers' - how do I find out what the executable is called?
[11:16] <sol_> i need to know how to use a .run file in ubuntu
[11:16] <Fujitsu> Alarms?
[11:17] <kremsner> alerts
[11:17] <kremsner> sorry
[11:17] <kremsner> *g*
[11:17] <alxwind> hey gurus! what program lists all my hardware in console?
[11:17] <Fujitsu> To do what, kremsner?
[11:17] <Fujitsu> lshw, alxwind.
[11:17] <sol_> will synaptic open a .run file or use terminal
[11:17] <alxwind> 10x Fujitsu
[11:18] <Fujitsu> sol_, just run it.
[11:18] <kremsner> Fujitsu I Want to Manage my Buddy Alerts.... I just can add them but don't know how to delete them
[11:18] <Fujitsu> Buddy Pounce?
[11:18] <cskeide> i've been having trouble with bittorrent clients segfault'ing. i just uninstalled samba, and they all work as they should. is this a known issue/bug?
[11:18] <Ocult> hello
[11:18] <dli> curley_sue, linux101, nothing but backup can save you :) if you can, set up backup
[11:18] <rafflesdude> hey guys someone can help me out here
[11:19] <Ocult> how can i do the gdesklets begin together Gnome ???
[11:19] <rafflesdude> kinda new to unbuntu
[11:19] <Ocult> please ?
[11:19] <sol_> me too new to ubuntu
[11:19] <rafflesdude> was wonderin how to change the settings of a document (removin read only) status
[11:19] <sol_> clueless
[11:19] <curley_sue> dli can u explain more? (did u mean I should have had a backup of my data?)
[11:19] <sol_> been apt-getting all nite
[11:19] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: you need to use chmod
[11:19] <cskeide> Ocult, open "system -> preferences -> sessions" and add gdesklets
[11:20] <dli> rafflesdude, try the file browser ( nautilus)
[11:20] <OffHand> ocult, system > preferences > sessions
[11:20] <rafflesdude> i tried file browser
[11:20] <rafflesdude> but it says i dont have root permission
[11:20] <rafflesdude> how to use chmod
[11:20] <dli> rafflesdude, if you still want more, "man chmod", like "chmod +w foo"
[11:20] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: to execute anything as the superuser you need to prepend the command with sudo
[11:20] <Ocult> OffHand, in sessions add something ?
[11:21] <Ocult> thank u
[11:21] <dli> rafflesdude, okay, you can "sudo chmod a+w foo"
[11:21] <OffHand> startup programs tab
[11:21] <israel> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[11:21] <rafflesdude> oh ok
[11:21] <OffHand> type gdesklets
[11:21] <rafflesdude> i'll try that
[11:21] <rafflesdude> thanks a lot!
[11:21] <monsterb> !firewall
[11:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:21] <soulfreshner> rafflesdude: It's bad news to log in as the superuser espescially if you are still new to ubuntu - it is possible, but by the time you find out how to do it, you won't want to anyway :)
[11:21] <Ocult> OffHand, thanks
[11:21] <israel> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[11:22] <rafflesdude> i see ok thanks
[11:22] <rafflesdude> ill save that for later
[11:22] <dli> rafflesdude, don't change any system files, only change your own
[11:22] <rafflesdude> well aparently
[11:22] <rafflesdude> it's one of the solutions
[11:23] <rafflesdude> to correct my resolution problem
[11:23] <kremsner> Fujitsu any Suggestions?
[11:23] <dli> soulfreshner, I don't worry, new users can learn a lesson by making mistakes
[11:23] <rafflesdude> because i have the lowest 600*400 settings
[11:23] <soulfreshner> dli: :)
[11:23] <rafflesdude> so i have to edit this particular system gile
[11:23] <rafflesdude> file
[11:23] <dli> rafflesdude, don't do chmod to change resolution, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:23] <mosi> can anyone tell me if ubuntu comes with an archive tool that can handle .rar files, and if so what it's called?
[11:24] <Fujitsu> mosi, install package unrar-nonfree
[11:24] <mosi> fujitsu: thanks
[11:24] <cskeide> i'm running dapper and been having trouble with bittorrent clients segfault'ing. i just uninstalled samba, and they all work as they should. is this a known issue/bug? any idea how to get bittorrent working with samba installed?
[11:24] <BlueEagle> cskeide: #ubuntu+1 please
[11:24] <BlueEagle> !dapper
[11:24] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[11:25] <rafflesdude> ok dli
[11:25] <mosi> Fujitsu: does that install libs for KDE Archive manager, or is it it's own thing?
[11:25] <rafflesdude> btw how do i even copy text frm this box? lol
[11:25] <dli> rafflesdude, ask here before you do something to the system, or read a howto
[11:25] <rafflesdude> oh ok..i did..and i was directed to this page
[11:25] <darx> greetings
[11:25] <rafflesdude> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:25] <dli> rafflesdude, Ctl-C here, and Ctl-Shift-V in gnome-terminal
[11:25] <chunky_munkey> is there any file share programs for linux?
[11:26] <Fujitsu> It should work with both Ark and it's own thing, I think, mosi.
[11:26] <HunterZ>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 2006debian
[11:26] <mosi> Fujitsu: got it, thanks a lot :)
[11:26] <rafflesdude> i tried the first methog there
[11:26] <Fujitsu> No problem, mosi.
[11:26] <rafflesdude> didnt work...im tryin the second one
[11:26] <rafflesdude> shld i go ahead with it dli?
[11:26] <darx> i'd like to run a shutdown script.. Where do i have to save the script??
[11:27] <Steed> !exit
[11:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Steed
[11:27] <chunky_munkey> whats a good fileshare for linux
[11:27] <gmi01> Hello, I have the following problem: I have to run apt-get update every other days otherwise i get an error message that says "W: Couldn't stat source package list" for every package
[11:27] <dli> rafflesdude, followinig the wiki is a good way
[11:27] <gmi01> Anyone knows how to fix it?
[11:27] <dli> rafflesdude, you got 855, I see
[11:27] <soulfreshner> is there some program that could install ubuntu on a remote server? that would be a nice treat...reinstalling a server remotely
[11:27] <darx> chunky_munkey, frostwire,amule
[11:27] <soulfreshner> ...it should be possible
[11:28] <exn> my wireless card (ipw2100) can't detect any network, can anyone help me ?
[11:28] <rafflesdude> 855?
[11:28] <rafflesdude> what do u mean?
[11:28] <darx> i'd like to run a shutdown script.. Where do i have to save the script?? any ideas??
[11:28] <dli> gmi01, you may need to check your network :( figure out why it couldn't fetch
[11:28] <Fujitsu> i855, the chipset, rafflesdude.
[11:29] <rafflesdude> how did u find out?
[11:29] <dli> exn: ipw2100 is for b protocol only, enable B mode at your ap (router)
[11:29] <gmi01> dli, No apt-get update works fine when I run it but the thing is I have to run it every other day
[11:29] <rafflesdude> ok so what's my next step
[11:29] <exn> dli, it's already in B mode only
[11:29] <ic56> darx: what kind of shutdown script?  is the standard shutdown program insufficient for your needs?
[11:29] <dli> gmi01, i think apt is in /etc/cron.daily
[11:29] <rafflesdude> i tried the reconfig thing it didnt work
[11:30] <dli> exn, "sudo iwlist eth1 scan", if it's eth1
[11:30] <darx> ic56, i'd like to release the lease and reset the saved leases
[11:30] <jink_> ????
[11:30] <darx> ic56, the DHCP leases
[11:30] <dli> rafflesdude, and 855resolution?
[11:30] <exn> eth0      No scan results
[11:30] <exn> dli, eth0      No scan results