[14:45] <vbgunz> anybody here use bcache-tools to add an SSD to an already existing Ubuntu installation that is already encrypted? Do you have a walk through for this scenario you can share?
[14:46] <Pici> Kawaiola: It is simpler than you realize.  Look at the "Problems with the download? Please use this direct link, or try another mirror." part, right click on the direct link ,copy to clipboard, then in your ssh window do wget "THAT LINK" -O vtigercrm6.0.0.tar.gz
[14:46] <dw1> sl33k_: try System settings -> Printers -> Add and see if it comes right up
[14:46] <dw1> sl33k_: make sure its turned on
[14:46] <rantic> Hi everyone,
[14:46] <skinux> Pressing CTRL+ALT+F2 is creating another user session, not another X session, right?
[14:47] <rantic> I've just installed ubuntu 14.04 on a fresh desktop and love the experience so far ... however I was wondering if I can have the window menus constantly visible instead of having to hover my mouse over the bar to reveal them?
[14:47] <rantic> Call me old fashioned I just feel I would work faster
[14:47] <dw1> skinux: its a text terminal, not X, yea
[14:48] <skinux> Is it wise to use that to start a session of a secondary desktop environment?
[14:48] <dw1> skinux: doubt it
[14:48] <BananaManLinux1> all is good, sorted it. :p
[14:49] <six86> hello. Can initrd and txt.cfg preseed files be mixed?
[14:49] <Trudko> Guys how better is ubuntu better for privacy than windows? What comes to my mind is that ubuntu is open source so is harder to slip something in and it is more safer so it is less likely you will get some spyware, anything else?
[14:50] <toki_> Yelu - its me, the guy with dwl-g122 wifi not working after system update. looks like i found a problem. it was and update - firmware for linux kernel drivers. i reinstalled system and installed all updates except this. and now my wireless seems to work ok. to confirm that i will now install this update and see what will happen.  thank you again and im sorry for bad english.
[14:50] <vbgunz> Trudko: honestly, it always and pretty much forever will depend on the user
[14:51] <Kawaiola> Pici, Okay let me try that
[14:51] <Trudko> vbgunz: sure you can post silly pictures on facebook on ubuntu too :)
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !ot|Trudko for this discussion.
[14:52] <Trudko> cfhowlett: ? how is this not related to ubuntu?
[14:52] <six86> hello. Can initrd and txt.cfg preseed files be mixed?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> Trudko this is the support channel.  that's not a support question, so please: off-topic is the a great spot for this discussion.  or even ##linux
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: this channel is for "my thing is not working and I'd like it fixing"
[14:54] <Trudko> ok fair enough
[14:54] <rantic> clear
[14:55] <rantic> Could anyone help me understand how Ubuntu handles sudo permissions? I'm still new to this but on other distributions I have always had to grant a regular user sudo usage by editing /etc/sudoers, using the %wheel line as a template and adding their name
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Trudko: you can discuss stuff like the thing you are interested in, in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[14:55] <Yelu> toki_, I didn't realize your "bad" english, because I'm also not an english native-speaker, and also doesn't count at all. - More important is the fact, you found your way to a working solution ba your own. => Success! - Congrats, and thanl you for your feedback :)
[14:55] <rantic> on Ubuntu I already had sudo rights but when i checked /etc/sudoers, I don't see my name?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> rantic: if you run:  groups     are you in the sudo group?
[14:56] <Trudko> Thx
[14:56] <Trudko> btw I am planning to install ubuntu on Dell XPS 12 and if U nderstand correctly it has UEFI enabled therefore I should take a look and follow these instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI ?
[14:57] <rantic> ActionParsnip: yes I am, is that equivalent to an entry in sudoers?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> rantic: the sudo group is added in the sudoers file, so you can add users to the sudo group and they will have admin access. Its a lot easier than having to modify that very sensitive file for every user you want to give the access to
[14:58] <sree> Can I burn video file to DVD using 'Brasero Disc Burner'?
[14:58] <spaceninja> hi, why does the ubuntu cd get ejected when I choose to install ubuntu inside windows 7?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> sree yes
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> sree: should be able to, if not then you can use devede to make a DVD ISO, then burn that
[14:58] <spaceninja> I'm emulating ubuntu in virtualbox, but it's really slow
[14:59] <spaceninja> +now
[14:59] <rantic> spaceninja: Virtualbox?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: try a lighter desktop, like LXDE
[14:59] <Kawaiola> Pici, Thank you so much haha it worked I have been trying to get this download for like a hour!
[14:59] <spaceninja> rantic: I booted the cd first time. Then I gave up because it didn't work.
[15:00] <sree> cfhowlett, I added an avi file..but showing 'this is not implemented' when clicks the 'Burn'
[15:00] <sl33k_> My Trusty Tahr recognizes my printer. However, it is not able to print test page. Also, Clicking Print from file menu gives -> printer configuration incorrect. What could be wrong here?
[15:01] <six86> hello. Can initrd and txt.cfg preseed files be mixed?
[15:01] <cfhowlett> sree devede ...
[15:01] <k1l> sl33k: depends on the printer make and model
[15:02] <sl33k_> k1l: I ticked all recommended settings
[15:02] <sl33k_> My model is IP1188
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: what printer do you have?
[15:02] <sl33k_> Cannon ip1188
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: did you install the Canon drivers from the Canon Europe site?
[15:02] <spaceninja> ActionParsnip: But I think it will still be slow, because my mobo doens't support virtualization. And virtualbox is always slow. Or, maybe unity is using 3d stuff
[15:03] <illsci> I want to verify if a file installed from a deb package has been changed.  How do you do that on debian/ubuntu?  Can you use deb-query for this?
[15:03] <sl33k_> ActionParsnip: Nope. I thought they did not support ubuntu.
[15:03] <sl33k_> checking...
[15:03] <k1l> !nickchanges | swag
[15:03] <swag> hi k1l
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> sl33k_: they support Ubuntu very well
[15:03] <k1l> swag: please dont change your nicks that often. that make a lot of noise in the channel. thanks
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: all motherboard support virtualization
[15:04] <swag> k1l: ah, okay, i'll be better about not doing it
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: you may not get 64bit emulation in guests but you can certainly run a 32bit guest on even the oldest boards that will run Ubuntu
[15:05] <ABP> hi minimec, wifi got connected.
[15:06] <ABP> but can not edit brightness values.
[15:06] <spaceninja> ActionParsnip: was thinking of intel-vt or something like that.
[15:06] <sl33k> ActionParsnip: Mine would be 1800 series here http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/06/download-install-canon-printer-driver.html right?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: yes but you can run a 32bit guest
[15:06] <spaceninja> processor
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> spaceninja: try Lubuntu, its super light
[15:06] <spaceninja> ok
[15:07] <minimec> ABP: Happy for you. NOw it might be that you can force the driver of you wifi-device to only connect in g. Intel wifi drivers can do that, at least 'igwlan'. Not sure about 'iwlwifi'.
[15:07] <sl33k> ActionParsnip: wrote model above: 1188
[15:08] <ABP> minimec: can u plz let me know the steps?
[15:09] <sophocles> hello, what is:
[15:09] <sophocles> the default keyring?
[15:09] <minimec> ABP: I still don't know what wifi device you have... ;)
[15:09] <sophocles> that keeps poping up?
[15:09] <munzmania> hi! i am on macAir 2013 using Ubuntu 14.4 and its awesome! , However , i noticed that the battery life is shorter than it used to be , so i there is "safe" method to control battery consumption and am i going to be better off with xubuntu?! and last where can i find the xubuntu mac version!????
[15:12] <VaticanCameos> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my HP Mini laptop. Wiped out Windows partition with GParted on LiveUSB, mounted the primary and logical secondary partitions at '/' and '/Secondary'. INstallation goes fine except the error 'apt could not load extra packages from disc' because the laptop doesn't have a CD ROM. Now when I boot it is stuck at a blank screen with a blinking cursor.
[15:12] <VaticanCameos> What gives?
[15:13] <VaticanCameos> When I boot with LiveUSB again it detects Ubuntu on the system
[15:13] <VaticanCameos> But the partitions are shown to be set as 'Dont use this partition' in GParted
[15:14] <DJShittyDJ> Has anyone had problems with some weird css syntax problems in Vim?
[15:14] <drewery> what is most recommended irc client for ubuntu? I like limechat on mac and wondering if anything along those lines, with simplicity in the picture
[15:14] <drewery> ? thanks~
[15:14] <BananaManLinux1> xchat is awesome
[15:14] <BananaManLinux1> drewery
[15:14] <bazhang> drewery, hexchat over xchat
[15:15] <lucas_> is there a way to move this fuckin unity bar to the bottom in 14.04??????????
[15:15] <sl33k> Can't find my printer here http://support-in.canon-asia.com/?personal any clue?
[15:15] <BananaManLinux1> hexchat is rubbish
[15:15] <bazhang> lucas_, no swearing here
[15:15] <drewery> xchat and hexchat I will check both them out :)
[15:15] <IdleOne> lucas_: No swearing in here please
[15:15] <lucas_> bazhang: sorry, but I hate this bar
[15:15] <VaticanCameos> I was trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:16] <drewery> thanks  BananaManLinux1 & bazhang for the input!
[15:16] <BananaManLinux1> what;s the difference between 12 and 14 ubuntu for battery?
[15:16] <BananaManLinux1> i heard 14 has bugs
[15:16] <rantic> that's greatly determined by your usage
[15:17] <BananaManLinux1> chromium and xchat is all i use lol
[15:17] <hepha3stus> BananaManLinux1 - how to close channel list in xchat?
[15:17] <BananaManLinux1> google :p
[15:17] <hepha3stus> haha
[15:17] <hepha3stus> all knowing
[15:17] <hepha3stus> thx
[15:18] <sweb> same issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/459366/cant-detect-or-enable-the-wifi-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:18] <IdleOne> BananaManLinux1: all software has bugs. try them both and see which works best for you. Also, please try to be helpful with your answers and not tell people to google if you don't know. As always chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:18] <sweb> my wireless is disable hardware and i cat switch on
[15:18] <k1l> BananaManLinux1: if you get the numbering for ubuntu right we might can answer your questions
[15:18] <sweb> using function keys
[15:19] <sweb> i use dell inspirion officialy supported ubuntu
[15:19] <k1l> sweb: what does "rfkill list" give you? ---> pastebin
[15:19] <BananaManLinux1> okay
[15:19] <sweb> k1l: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5165934
[15:19] <VaticanCameos> Does anyone have any idea what is going on? I don't even get the GRUB bootloader on my screen, and I selected the hard drive (and not a particular partition) as install location as is recommended
[15:20] <BananaManLinux1> why is ubuntu 14.04 worse with battery life than say windows? no tweaks work, it;s still the same. im tired. ugh!
[15:20] <BananaManLinux1> its like i can sit here and watch the battert drain
[15:20] <k1l> BananaManLinux1: talk to the hardware manufacturer to support linux in the same way as they do with windows
[15:20] <BananaManLinux1> either im doing something wrong or my laptop is rubbish
[15:20]  * Yelu is thinking of a good, old "friend". - His name is Armag3ddon1 ...
[15:21]  * BananaManLinux1 laughs
[15:21] <k1l> sweb: yes, that is blocked. did you try the fn-keys for your wifi?
[15:21] <rantic> most manufacturers optimize hardware for the Windows platform ... so yes in most cases you will get more battery life under windows
[15:21] <sweb> k1l: all function keys work but wire less function keys not triggered
[15:22] <sweb> k1l: funny think i today switch from beta 14.04 to stable... in beta i dont have any problem
[15:22] <k1l> sweb: is there another hardware switch for that?
[15:23] <sweb> k1l: all of my hardware have linux driver and my laptop is ubuntu version
[15:24] <sweb> ATI radeon work well
[15:24] <Ontological> How the heck do you access 'nvidia-settings' or 'nvidia-xconfig' on 14.04?  nvidia-settings looks drastically different.  I need something capable of saving my xorg.conf file correctly.
[15:24] <k1l> sweb: try some "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[15:25] <k1l> sweb: but really really  see if there is another hardware switch on the side or something
[15:25] <sweb> k1l: nope just in keyboard and work with function key
[15:25] <rantic> Ontological: You just accessed nvidia-settings
[15:25] <sweb> noting happened lets reboot
[15:26] <k1l> o_O ?
[15:26] <Ontological> rantic: Please read the entire question.
[15:26] <rantic> Ontological: You asked how to access to something you already have access to, just because it looks different didn't change that.
[15:26] <Ontological> rantic: The new nvidia-settings looks nothing like the old nvidia-settings, nor does it allow me to make adjustments, such as resolution and graphics processsing (and save such settings to xorg.conf)
[15:27] <rantic> Ontological: Driver version? i installed something in the 331 series the other say and it looks the same as always
[15:31] <whoever> has anyone seen the new das keyboard 4
[15:31] <whoever> has anyone seen the new das keyboard 4 ?
[15:32] <rantic> whoever: nope, nobody in the world
[15:32] <whoever> any opinon, i have the 3, and the slimer profile seems like it would be a deal breaker
[15:32] <Pici> whoever: maybe someone in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:32] <ABP> minimec: i have a bsnl modem
[15:32] <whoever> Pici: ah ok
[15:32] <lucastt> hey, i downloaded Intellij IDEA IDE, but it's simple folder, to run it i have to execute a file. how do i add the IDE to the dash?
[15:32] <scarra3> I am trying to test out the 14.04 livecd and after the ubuntu boot screen I get a black screen but its not a usual black screen because there is no back light showing I have no clue what to do I tried searching an answer and I couldn't find an answer.  Is there anyone that has a suggest or an idea?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> lucastt: you can make a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications
[15:33] <lucastt> oh, ok,
[15:33] <lucastt> thanks
[15:34] <scarra3> Any ideas?
[15:40] <s1991> Hello, can anyone help me with wifi problm
[15:42] <MrUnkownGuy> hey
[15:42] <MrUnkownGuy> is there a way to install unity web player on chrome?
[15:42] <MrUnkownGuy> and before you say, yes i know people say that unity doesnt provide ubuntu, but im not sure
[15:44] <alesan> hi
[15:44] <alesan> today Ubuntu upgraded firefox
[15:44] <MrUnkownGuy> hi can you help me?
[15:44] <MrUnkownGuy> is there a way to install unity web player on chrome?
[15:44] <alesan> how can I get back the old UI?
[15:44] <MrUnkownGuy> and before you say, yes i know people say that unity doesnt provide ubuntu, but im not sure
[15:45] <MrUnkownGuy> wait alesan
[15:45] <s1991> ??
[15:45] <MrUnkownGuy> ummm do you mean the theme?
[15:45] <MrUnkownGuy> the looks?
[15:45] <alesan> MrUnkownGuy, I want the old "menu" on top, File, Edit, Bookmarks etc
[15:46] <MrUnkownGuy> oh um.
[15:46] <MrUnkownGuy> you download the older version, then just install it
[15:46] <tmager> alesan: click the thing with the three bars on the right side (that opens the menu) and there's an option (under view possibly?)
[15:46] <Beldar> MrUnkownGuy, Lots of experienced help hep, focus on your issue. What does this mean "unity doesnt provide ubuntu" it makes 0 sense.
[15:46] <Praxi> trying to make a udev rule to mount a hard drive whenever it is inserted.  It doesn't appear to be working.  Does this look right to everyone?  ACTION=="add", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="partition", ENV{ID_FS_UUID}=="5359-818E", RUN+="/bin/mount -t exfat -U $env{ID_FS_UUID}"
[15:46] <scarra3> I am trying to test out the 14.04 livecd and after the ubuntu boot screen I get a black screen but its not a usual black screen because there is no back light showing I have no clue what to do I tried searching an answer and I couldn't find an answer.  Is there anyone that has a suggest or an idea?
[15:47] <alesan> tmager, umhh....
[15:47] <tmager> alesan: oh nvm, that was last release -- hit customize, there's a thing in the bottom left that lets you turn it back on
[15:47] <alesan> tmager, I don't see it
[15:47] <MrUnkownGuy> scarra3 : try reburning the live CD
[15:47] <Beldar> !nomodeset | scarra3
[15:47] <alesan> tmager, hoooo finally, thanks!
[15:48] <tmager> alesan, no problem -- that change really annoyed me, they made it too hard to find the option to turn the menu bar back on
[15:48] <MrUnkownGuy> Beldar, the unity web plugin doesnt provide ubuntu
[15:49] <Beldar> MrUnkownGuy, isn't provided in ubuntu? again speak clear concise english.
[15:50] <MrUnkownGuy> I've tried to play some unity games online, but on some sites it says that Unity isn't supporting linux
[15:50] <sophocles> cold blooded
[15:50] <tmager> MrUnkownGuy: that unity is different from the Unity desktop environment
[15:51] <ikonia> there is 2 unity software tools
[15:51] <ikonia> 1.) is a desktop 2.) is the games engine
[15:51] <ikonia> it can be quiet confusing, more so as the games engine is weak on linux,
[15:51] <shtrwlf> Unity3D web player is what he's referring to
[15:51] <MrUnkownGuy> thanks shtrwlf
[15:52] <MrUnkownGuy> thats the one, unity3D web player
[15:52] <Beldar> MrUnkownGuy, Ah, you have to be really clear is all unity is a desktop the ubuntu desktop is all not to get things confused. 3rd party apps are not supported here basically, however someone may help, just may take awhile.
[15:52] <MrUnkownGuy> ok then
[15:52] <scarra3> Beldar: I do have that little keyboard thing at the bottom of the boot screen
[15:53] <shtrwlf> might have to use wine or virtualbox - thats what otheres are saying
[15:53] <Beldar> scarra3, Can you get to the gui to choose the nomodeset option?
[15:53] <scarra3> Beldar: Negative it get to the ubuntu boot screen and than after that a black screen with no back light
[15:53] <Yelu> Beldar, MrUnkownGuy means a game engine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28game_engine%29 (and the browser plugin for chrome to upload 3D stuff)
[15:54] <scarra3> Beldar: The one that says ubuntu with the orange loading bar
[15:54] <sobczyk> anyone can tell me why after upgrade from saucy to trusty, my network interface is "rename3" instead of "em2"?
[15:54]  * Yelu too late :(
[15:54] <Beldar> scarra3, Did you read the bots link, a disc boot is the perfect access.
[15:54] <scarra3> Beldar: I only have an USB drive they don't sell DVD's where I am at
[15:55] <Beldar> Yelu, If you read my post that is an obvious concern that unity was being used here, for a game, when it is also a de.
[15:56] <Beldar> scarra3, What app did you use to load the usb?
[15:56] <scarra3> Beldar: I tried unetbootin and the one recommended on the ubuntu forums
[15:57] <MrUnkownGuy> scarra3: weird, I used unetbootin and it worked
[15:57] <Yelu> Beldar, I was also mixing up the "Unity" terms and the meaning. - I agree.
[15:57] <scarra3> MrUnknownGuy: Ive always used unetbootin and have never had any problems
[15:57] <shtrwlf> using Unetbootin to load a seperate .iso while offline works most of the time
[15:58] <shtrwlf> downloading through Unetbootin doesn't always work
[15:58] <Beldar> scarra3, If the download is good, most likely you will have to get to a nomodeset boot or other possible commands to get to the desktop, I have to take off shortly, so another may be more helpful that will be here to see you get booted is all.
[15:59] <MrUnkownGuy> Iiiii'm going to play some games now
[15:59] <MrUnkownGuy> bye!
[16:00] <scarra3> Anyone have any other ideas for my predicament?
[16:01] <SolarAquarion> what's the channel for ubuntu touch?
[16:01] <Beldar> !touch | SolarAquarion
[16:04] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, just randomely I can not seem to run nautilus. from terminal I get the error : "Could not register the application: Timeout was reached"
[16:04] <Pinkamena_D> using sudo nautilus it runs normally
[16:04] <GeorgesLeYeti> Hi
[16:04] <Nexard> nice
[16:05] <GeorgesLeYeti> I just bought a VPS KVM and i wanna install Ubuntu server. But under the SolusVM dashboard i can only install Windows Server 2008/2012
[16:05] <Yelu> Pinkamena_D, better run it as "gksudo nautilus" from terminal
[16:06] <GeorgesLeYeti> When i run the VM i can connect with VNC and it runs under gPXE
[16:06] <GeorgesLeYeti> is there anyway to install Ubuntu throught that ?
[16:07] <compdoc> GeorgesLeYeti, you mean the machine type in windows? should run ubuntu fine
[16:08] <Praxi> trying to make a udev rule to mount a hard drive whenever it is inserted.  It doesn't appear to be working.  Does this look right to everyone?  ACTION=="add", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="partition", ENV{ID_FS_UUID}=="5359-818E", RUN+="/bin/mount -t exfat -U $env{ID_FS_UUID}"
[16:08] <GeorgesLeYeti> compdoc: no actualy there is no OS install on the VM
[16:09] <rundll32> !samba
[16:09] <vbgunz> I'm trying to set up bcache but damn it's a pain. I don't know how to make my root device not busy. will doing it from a live cd work?
[16:09] <vbgunz> or will that be an amazing waste of time?
[16:09] <dw1> Praxi: shouldnt it be = not ==
[16:10] <rundll32> !xen
[16:10] <dw1> Praxi: == is for "if" statement comparisons
[16:10] <Praxi> ahhh
[16:10] <Praxi> hmm
[16:11] <dw1> Praxi: X=1; if [ "$X" == "1" ]; then echo "ahh"; fi
[16:11] <Praxi> all the prebuilt rules are like that dw1, so I'm thinking that is correct.  Like if I look at the ones that existed for CD or Network
[16:12] <Praxi> For example, here is my eth0.  I haven't butchered it yet :)  SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:30:48:b8:8f:a3", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
[16:12] <rundll32> !vmware
[16:13] <Praxi> I can't even tell if the rule is firing, maybe I need to start there
[16:13] <GeorgesLeYeti> !QEmu
[16:13] <dw1> Praxi: depends what shell youre in i suppose
[16:13] <Praxi> just regular old bash
[16:13] <scarra3> So I can't find out how to activate nomodeset in ubuntu 14.04 that little keyboard isn't on the boot screen
[16:13] <Praxi> whatever comes on my server
[16:13] <rantic> how would qemu differ from virtualbox
[16:13] <Praxi> !udev
[16:13] <compdoc> actaully, you should install qemu-kvm
[16:13] <dw1> Praxi: try it echo $VAR the = shouldnt appear at the beginning ....
[16:13] <broman> can anyone help me? my ubuntu server virtual machine, who is giving the ips (dhcp) is not working as gateway
[16:14] <rantic> broman: Do you have the machine operating in bridged mode?
[16:14] <broman> yes
[16:14] <broman> rantic, yes
[16:14] <compdoc> virtualbox is better for graphics and you close it when youre done. qemu-kvm is better for a server or something that runs 24/7
[16:15] <vbgunz> does anyone here know how to regenerate /etc/pulse/daemon.conf and the default.pa files? reinstalling pulseaudio doesn't seem to do the trick and neither does dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio
[16:15] <dw1> Praxi: https://pastee.org/nuds2
[16:15] <Trudko> hi guys if I want to do dual boot on same disk as I have windows how does encryption work? do I encrypt  windows partition with bitlocker and ubuntu with bitlocker alternative?
[16:16] <Praxi> its a udev .rules file though, the same things apply there?  every udev rule I have looked at does double == as equality?
[16:16] <dw1> Praxi: then no its not a shell
[16:16] <dw1> Praxi: follow the example :)
[16:16] <scarra3> So I can't find out how to activate nomodeset in ubuntu 14.04 that little keyboard isn't on the boot screen
[16:16] <rundll32> !rdp
[16:17] <kostkon> vbgunz, delete the ~/.pulse folder, restart pulse
[16:17] <dw1> Praxi: my bad
[16:17] <vbgunz> kostkon: I don't have that foldre
[16:18] <Praxi> no worries, its all knowledge dw1 , I'm playing with your example now just to learn :)
[16:18] <kostkon> vbgunz, no idea then
[16:19] <Ontological> I'm having trouble getting EDID information over mini-display/thunderbolt.  get-edid tells me "Attempting to use I2C Interface.  Looks like no buses have an EDID."
[16:20] <rundll32> !dnsserver
[16:20] <rundll32> !dns
[16:21] <Yelu> Praxi, don't know, if I'm a help,, but see => https://superuser.com/questions/53978/automatically-mount-external-drives-to-media-label-on-boot-without-a-user-logge
[16:21] <rundll32> !serverguide
[16:21] <Pici> !msthebot | rundll32
[16:21] <Pici> !msgthebot | rundll32
[16:22] <vbgunz> damn I got to regenerate these files and I have no frigging clue how
[16:24] <vbgunz> well, looks like I can cat or pipe the output of pulseaudio --dump-conf to daemon.conf but how do I then generate the default.pa file?
[16:24] <rantic> vbgunz: Worse case scenario ... install a small virtual machine
[16:24] <rantic> vbgunz: then back the default pulse files up to a mounted hdd on your machine
[16:25] <vbgunz> I have the backups to these files but simply trying to regenerate them is a headache, daemon.conf seems easy but default.pa is just messing me up
[16:27] <vbgunz> I gotta reboot
[16:28] <minimec> Ontological: I have no answer to your question, but my guess is that you want to get that monitor up an running.
[16:28] <minimec> I have a Lenovo USB Screen that gives a dissorted image when plugged. So EDID info is somehow wrong. I have to set it up manually. If xrandr can see the device, that might work. See post #24 -> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164385
[16:29] <Ontological> Mimilus_: I am trying to create scripts that run different xrand commands depending upon which monitor I connect to my laptop.  The laptop uses mini-display and I am unable to get EDID information over mini-display (I believe).
[16:31] <Praxi> hmm my udev is applying different rules, if the rules file I created starts with same number (80) but the rest of the filename is different, would that cause an issue?
[16:31] <tooth> is it possible to build a microwave-oven inside my computer
[16:32] <rundll32> tooth: nah.
[16:32] <pikachuza> hey all, is there a channel for ubuntu developers?
[16:33] <Metawolf> tooth: ofcourse, the magnetron will also speed up your processor
[16:33] <tooth> allright how do i set it up then i tryed drill abd welding but no sucsess!
[16:35] <Metawolf> tooth: you can use ductape to install the necessary components.
[16:35] <minimec> Ontological: So instead of checking the EDID in your script, I would simply try to start the display with the settings you evaluated with 'gtf'.
[16:35] <backbox> hello everyone :)
[16:36] <rundll32> !offtopic | tooth
[16:36] <tooth> ok thx i try ducktape then to make it work
[16:36] <sazawal> Is it good to switch to gnome 3.12 on ubuntu 14.04?
[16:36] <Praxi> does a drive have a partition?
[16:36] <Praxi> egads, UUID not partition
[16:37] <Praxi> sorry need more caffine
[16:37] <backbox> how can i fix my backbox (blackbuntu) installer ??
[16:38] <DJShittyDJ> Hey, running a command just before shutdown?
[16:38] <DJShittyDJ> How?
[16:39] <DJShittyDJ> I have aliased a bunch of cp commands that backs up my most precious files...
[16:39] <aljosa> i'm looking for amd64+mac 14.04 download to install ubuntu on imac. did this change and it's now in a single iso/image?
[16:40] <Ontological> minimec: get-edid doesn't work, but xrandr is giving me EDID info, so I can use that with one hell of a pipe to `sed` ^_~
[16:43] <minimec> Ontological: I see ;) How does the script detect that a new device is plugged? For me with that USB MOnitor it's easy, because I can simply set a udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:47] <Ontological> minimec: I'm not too worried about plug-and-play compatibility.  I just need it to know what's connected at login (Getting home, Getting to work)
[16:50] <minimec> Ontological: I see. So if your 'sed pipe' is not working, the link I gave you might be alternative.
[16:51] <Ontological> I got EDID info with xrandr, instead of get-edid
[16:56] <johnjohn101> what is the .cache/upstart folder used for?  mine seems have grown enough to take all my free space on the hard drive.
[16:58] <rvdv> johnjohn101: take a look what's inside
[16:58] <rvdv> looks to me a lot of log files
[16:58] <johnjohn101> rvdv: is there any harm in deleting that folder? that's what I did.  is this something i need to monitor?
[16:59] <rvdv> johnjohn101: I think it won't do harm to deleate these log files
[17:00] <rvdv> I was up until now not even aware of this folder :-)
[17:00] <module000> rvdv: those are upstart logs for your user-level jobs(ie, not the instance of upstart controlling your box). safe to remove them unless you want to review something in them
[17:00] <johnjohn101> rvdv: yeah, this is just a vm that i use for testing at work.  surprised me when it said i'm out of disk space.
[17:01] <rvdv> johnjohn101: :-) ... just through them away if you are not interested in checking them out ...
[17:02] <oaulakh> how to install word web dictionary in ubuntu?
[17:02] <johnjohn101> module000: my concern is that i'm going to run into this issue again and run out of space
[17:02] <rvdv> johnjohn101: maybe you can add another diskfile to your vm .... and mount /home on it after copying everything from home there ...
[17:03] <oaulakh> how to install word web dictionary in ubuntu?
[17:03] <johnjohn101> rvdv: i cleared the cache and now have 12 gb free.  my concern is that this will after low resource computers and blindside some people
[17:04] <johnjohn101> *this will affect*
[17:04] <module000> johnjohn101: set another user-level upstart job to purge those on a sane schedule that is acceptable to you, or a user-level cron entry
[17:05] <rvdv> johnjohn101: as long you using the system in a vm you can do a lot of tweaking to it with adding more vm-resources
[17:06] <johnjohn101> module000: i can do that.  just one more thing to administer.
[17:08] <johnjohn101> module000: just seems to me that upstart cache wouldn't continue to grow until it's out of disk space.
[17:08] <johnjohn101> i can check launchpad to see if there is an issue
[17:08] <module000> johnjohn101: normally that wouldn't be an issue, was one of those log files massively larger than the rest? could have been an error or informational message spamming a single session
[17:09] <johnjohn101> module000: i see what you mean. I'll monitor it for the next few months and see if it occurs again and look to see if it's one file.
[17:11] <rtzui> The ubuntu installer just formated my target drive and deleted all my data
[17:12] <rtzui> eventhoug the checkbox "format" was not ticked
[17:12] <rtzui> any chance for a unformat?
[17:12] <rtzui> so far not many files have be written
[17:13] <rtzui> old and new fs where ext4
[17:13] <athan> Hello folks! Can someone help me get apache to work with a symlink to a home folder? Do I need to change the owner of the folders to the apache user or something? Any help would be awesome :)
[17:13] <module000> rtzui: you'll need your old journal to have much success (ie a backup of one of the old ext4's partition's superblocks)
[17:14] <module000> rtzui: you could also nuke the existing journal, and try somethign like photorec to recover specific files
[17:14] <rtzui> that i of course don't have...
[17:14] <rtzui> why the freaking hell does the installer fromat a non empty partion without aksing?
[17:15] <module000> rtzui: normally it doesn't. your /var/log/installer directory may have some insight for you
[17:15] <k1l> rtzui: what did you select?
[17:16] <rtzui> mount as "/" and i did NOT check the box "format"
[17:16] <k1l> mount as / means install the stuff there
[17:16] <rtzui> yes, that was intended
[17:16] <k1l> which means data will be lost
[17:16] <module000> rtzui: wait...you had it install to "/" without formatting it first? it's still there (what was not overwritten)
[17:17] <rtzui> moodule000: That would be what i expect, but it is not
[17:17] <rtzui> ls /target/home => empty
[17:18] <module000> rtzui: it may be worthwhile to find out if it was really formatted or not - or just installed on top of. sudo dumpe2fs /dev/your_root_device | grep created
[17:19] <rtzui> yup, created ten minutes ago
[17:20] <module000> rtzui: if you want to recovery data, unmount the disk, destroy the (new) journal, and run photorec against it
[17:20] <module000> rtzui: if you want to find out why the installer did what it did, browse through /var/log/installer
[17:23] <rtzui> module000: how do i delet the journal, and does it bring anything back?
[17:23] <Verpi> help
[17:24] <module000> rtzui: you delete the journal with `dd`, targetting the specific superblocks that contain it. you can get the locations of those blocks with dumpe2fs. once the journal is gone, your filesystem will have no idea what it contains, and you can run photorec to start recovery data. you might not even need to delete the journal for photorec to work, but that's more of a "how to use photorec" discussion
[17:25] <Verpi> I need help
[17:26] <Praxi> If anyone is bored, trying to figure out my udev rules, asked it on http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition
[17:26] <DJones> Verpi: You need to ask your Ubuntu support question before the channel can offer any help
[17:27] <Verpi> to thank
[17:28] <rtzui> module000: Ok, but photorec is absolutly hopeless with encrypted data, isn't it?
[17:29] <Fawzib> trying to setup LDAP authentication according to wiki (14.04 LTS). Added group 'test' ok (getent group shows it). ldapadduser testuser test - fails with 'Error adding user testuser to LDAP'. Any ideas?
[17:29] <lanoxx> since my recent upgrade  my firefox does not play sound for html5 videos
[17:29] <lanoxx> flash sound works
[17:29] <lanoxx> what can i do?
[17:29] <k1l> rtzui: wait. you had an encrypted partition, marked the installer to install there and then wonder when it "formated" stuff?
[17:29] <baka> @search Reach for Infinity
[17:29] <unopaste> baka: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
[17:30] <module000> rtzui: yes, entirely useless with encrypted data
[17:30] <VaticanCameos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7468844/ http://imgur.com/yw6guBa imgur shows what I get when I boot into grub and select the regular boot option. The paste is from boot-repair which I tried to run from LiveUSB.
[17:31] <VaticanCameos> Any pointers?
[17:32] <VaticanCameos> I am not able to get ubuntu to boot at all. After repairing grub, I'm getting this end trace error.
[17:33] <VaticanCameos> I'd really appreciate any help I could get. My system is HP Mini, running on Intel Atom with 1gig RAM (quite less yes).
[17:34] <VaticanCameos> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[17:34] <naemvi> hi how do I disable root login and maintain the su - command available?
[17:35] <compdoc> naemvi, did you give the root account a password?
[17:36] <compdoc> you just need to remove the password
[17:36] <Yelu> naemvi, "sudo passwd root -d" is your command. - Then logout from all sessions or restart your machine
[17:36] <naemvi> but I should be sure to have at least one sudoer right?
[17:37] <naemvi> compdoc yes I did
[17:37] <k1l> naemvi: ubuntu does have a disabled root login by default
[17:37] <naemvi> k1l I'm on a server
[17:37] <Yelu> naemvi, then check "/etc/group" for group sudo and add a user of your choice
[17:38] <k1l> naemvi: not enough to permitrootlogin no ?
[17:38] <k1l> in ssh config?
[17:38] <naemvi> k1l I don't understand
[17:39] <naemvi> how do I list users in a group?
[17:40] <Yelu> naemvi, "grep -i sudo /etc/group"
[17:40] <Yelu> naemvi, or just "less /etc/group"
[17:41] <Yelu> naemvi, all users in a group are listed at the end of a line (could be empty, if no user is member of a group)
[17:42] <naemvi> Yelu it says sudo:x:27
[17:42] <naemvi> I knew that command, but does not seem to work
[17:42] <Yelu> naemvi, then no user is a sudoer on your system atm
[17:43] <LinksEz> What is the best way to install IE on ubuntu?
[17:43] <naemvi> Yelu that is not true as if I do groups naemvi it tells me sudo
[17:44] <Yelu> naemvi, if you activated your root account (with a password), then first use root to add a user to group sudo, log out and log in as the new suo user
[17:44] <Yelu> naemvi, but you wrote, that your sudo-group is empty?
[17:45] <Yelu> naemvi, or did you even rename "root" to your user name?
[17:45] <k1l> !wine | LinksEz
[17:45] <naemvi> Yelu there should be something else, like, the /etc/group is not listing the usernames belonging to groups
[17:47] <Yelu> naemvi, if you didn't log out since removing all users from group sudo, then you could be a sudoer in the current session, yp
[17:47] <Yelu> ^yep
[17:48] <Yelu> naemvi, just add a user to group sudo as a first step
[17:49] <Yelu> naemvi, then don't leave your current session,m but open a new one (with the other user) and test "sudo ..."
[17:51] <naemvi> Yelu ok
[17:53] <Yelu> naemvi, what is ok? - You'll do it, or you've done it and it is ok (your user's got sudo)?
[17:53] <rtzui> module000: thx bye
[17:54] <naemvi> Yelu I entered with a sudo account and su -
[17:54] <naemvi> Yelu it gave no problems
[17:54] <naemvi> but I really want to understand how to list members of a group
[17:56] <Yelu> naemvi, fine. - and now use the new sudo user to remove the password from root (see my line above) and we're done with your problem.
[17:57] <naemvi> Yelu ok thank you and thanks to the others answering me
[17:57] <Yelu> naemvi, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/members.1.html
[17:59] <naemvi> Yelu unfortunately I don't have the members command
[17:59] <Yelu> naemvi, you're welcome.
[18:00] <Yelu> naemvi, "sudo apt-get install members" in a terminal ;)
[18:00] <Yelu> naemvi, lucky guy.
[18:00] <naemvi> Yelu apt-get does not find that
[18:01] <Yelu> naemvi, sorry, I tested it under 12.04 LTS here ...
[18:01] <naemvi> Yelu ok fixed
[18:01] <naemvi> Yelu server didn't update
[18:02] <naemvi> Yelu thank you very much indeed
[18:02] <naemvi> Yelu after apt-get update I installed members correctly and it is now working fine. Thank you very much again.
[18:03] <Yelu> naemvi, have fun ...
[18:05] <naemvi> Yelu sorry I set passwd root -d and now I can't su - anymore
[18:06] <naemvi> Yelu is there a way to inhibit the ssh root access only?
[18:10] <Yelu> naemvi, you did ssh into your server with your new sudo user? And this user isn't able to "sudo su -"?
[18:10] <Yelu> naemvi, but you tried tested this already ... ?
[18:12] <Yelu> naemvi, root isn't able to ssh into your server now ...
[18:12] <naemvi> Yelu the sudo user is unable to su -
[18:12] <Yelu> naemvi, security in "/etc/ssh/sshd_config" soething like PermitRootLogin no
[18:13] <naemvi> Yelu ok very nice
[18:13] <Yelu> naemvi, this is for root only (not a sudo user)
[18:14] <Yelu> naemvi, have you one single user left which is able to get into your server now? oh-oh ...
[18:19] <naemvi> Yelu yes I'll make another one
[18:19] <naemvi> Yelu thank you very much again
[18:19] <DzAirmaX> hi guyz
[18:19]  * Yelu is going stand-by ...
[18:20] <DzAirmaX> someone aware of a ppa for fail2ban last stable (not the one in trusty, the last last one xD)
[18:20] <s1991> can anyone help??
[18:21] <greeter> s1991: just ask your question. i'm sure if someone knows the answer they will volunteer it :-)
[18:21] <Trudko> Guys when running dual boot with windows can I encrypt windows parition with bitlocker and encrypt ubuntu parition with linux alternative to bitlocker without problems_
[18:21] <s1991> My hotspot created in ubuntu is not being detected in window os or windows phone
[18:22] <raub> Trudko: I don't see why not but I would test in a vm or something first
[18:22] <greeter> hmm i can't really offer help on that i'm afraid s1991. have you been able to test it with another ubuntu/linux powered device?
[18:22] <genii> Trudko: Maybe use truecrypt instead since it's readily available on all platforms
[18:23] <s1991> greeter: yes, I've and they do detect and work properly
[18:23] <Trudko> instead of bitcloker?
[18:23] <Trudko> bitlocker
[18:23] <whitehat> hello group. running 14.04. is there an easy method to save "state" (workspaces) at shutdown and restore at login? thank you.
[18:23] <genii> Trudko: Yes.
[18:23] <s1991> only windows get me the problm
[18:23] <greeter> hmm it sounds like it could be a windows issue then rather than linux/ubuntu... but i can't offer more help than that i'm afraid :-\ sorry
[18:23] <Trudko> genii so would then use truecrypt from ubuntu to encrypt both partitions?
[18:24] <raub> Has anyone had issues with sudo-ldap and 14.04?
[18:24] <upsell5> hi, what does jre-headless mean?  is it not the stable release?
[18:24] <s1991> can anyone else get me with that??
[18:24] <greeter> you could try ##windows to see if someone there might have an answer
[18:24] <s1991> greeter: I'
[18:24] <s1991> *I'm pretty sure they'll say its ubuntu's problm
[18:24] <genii> Trudko: You can encrypt Windows from Windows, doesn't matter and Ubuntu can still see it
[18:25] <Trudko> genii:  yeah but can I do the both from one place?
[18:25] <greeter> possibly. the fact that other linux computers detect it though indicates that the issue is windows related. could be something simple like a configuration setting that's out of whack
[18:25] <Trudko> just for convinience
[18:26] <genii> Trudko: Haven't tried that, but it might be possible. Probably want to test that in VM first though
[18:26] <Julinux> how do ubuntu 14:04 for NetworkManager does not start with the system?
[18:27] <raub> Julinux: Mine does. I would think it should, but you can change that
[18:28] <Julinux> ¬¬
[18:28] <Julinux> AFF
[18:28] <Julinux> I how I do it?
[18:28] <Julinux> ra
[18:28] <Julinux> raub,
[18:29] <Trudko> genni like running truecrypt from ubuntu wm to encrypt its partition_
[18:29] <Trudko> or even have windows and ubuntu in wm?
[18:32] <raub> Julinux: I do not know if it uses upstart or what
[18:33] <sl33k_> Is ssh -L 8080:www.ubuntuforums.org:80 localhost:22 the right command to SSH to ubuntu forums? This is from the ubuntu help docs?
[18:33] <raub> Julinux: lemme check in my 14.04 vm
[18:34] <DzAirmaX> guyz last question : why the last stable version of fail2ban is not in 14.04 LTS ??
[18:34] <thoonai_> hey, davfs2 wont connect to unrestricted webdav server and even if I provide username and password, I get 405 Rejected, while I'm happily connected with firefox.
[18:35] <raub> Julinux: So it seems to use upstart. Do you have the file /etc/init/network-manager.conf?
[18:36] <raub> DzAirmaX: ubuntu tries to keep in sync with debian
[18:36] <rahul_> I cannot open olark.com on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:37] <thoonai> anyone who knows about davfs2?
[18:37] <DzAirmaX> raub : yeah buts its like @ months now xD
[18:37] <DzAirmaX> 2*
[18:38] <kchengue> join #ubuntu-es
[18:39] <raub> DzAirmaX: Take a look at the current stable versions of rsyslog, dovecot, and asterisk, and compare them with the ubuntu
[18:39] <raub> kchengue: you need to do /join #ubuntu-es
[18:39] <raub> Note the "/"
[18:40] <kchengue> raub, yes, my misstake
[18:40] <kchengue> raub, thanks
[18:40] <raub> kchengue: no worries
[18:43] <thoonai> oh I'm sick of davfs
[18:43] <DzAirmaX> raub : true but it dosnt answer my question... is there a way of accelerating the process ?
[18:43] <raub> DzAirmaX: look for a PPA
[18:44] <raub> DzAirmaX: Make your own PPW
[18:44] <raub> er, PPA
[18:44] <DzAirmaX> raub : is there a tutorial for that ?
[18:44] <Yelu> sl33k_, isn't this only an example which uses a generic/random "www.ubuntuforums.com" in it?
[18:44] <DzAirmaX> I am in the learning phase ,)
[18:45] <not-me> hello people all around the palce. I'm having a little problem with my usb stick maybe some-one could help me out?
[18:45] <thoonai> davfs2 throws 405 not allowed with correct user and pw and nginx' log tells me no user name and pw provided
[18:45] <raub> !ask | not-me
[18:46] <raub> Yelu: to me it seems an example for creating a tunnel to pass a website
[18:46] <DzAirmaX> raub : found it thanx man
[18:46] <brianblaze420> yeah explain your problem so I can help u from my palace not-me :)
[18:47] <raub> DzAirmaX: you found the package or the docs?
[18:47] <not-me> I've uploaded some stuff to usb, using dd bs=512M if=file.iso of=/dev/sde now my usb is 30mbs "Large", and i've removed my linux isntallation on that computer. I'm stuck on windows, and would rather get back to linux, but can't get to make the stick any larger(8gb). Any ideas?
[18:48] <raub> DzAirmaX: For some docs, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[18:48] <DzAirmaX> raub : no I found the way to create an account on launchpad etc ...
[18:49] <raub> not-me: What is in the usb stick?
[18:49] <raub> not-me: is that your boot disk?
[18:50] <not-me> raub well its arch installation
[18:51] <k1l> not-me: well best is to ask the arch support how special their image is
[18:51] <Yelu> raub: I see, thx
[18:52] <raub> Yelu: I really do not know what he is really trying to do
[18:52] <raub> not-me: are you using the usb drive to just install arch?
[18:52] <not-me> k1l i've tryed, as i wanted to try out the blackarch, and the thing is nobody answers i'm kind of stuck here in between.. i got formated hdd and a "broken" usb stick. Can't seem to know what to do at this moment..
[18:52] <Yelu> raub, I try to follow him, maybe he finds a solution and describes it here ...
[18:53] <raub> not-me: why broken?
[18:53] <not-me> well it shows its 30mb big, in reallity it's 8gb. I want to remove the stuff on it, and upload it again properly
[18:53] <Korrosion> recently set a highlight mode on a file and it caused gedit to crash. Now I can't open a file with that name
[18:54] <Korrosion> Any way to clear out the highligh rule for that file?
[18:54] <not-me> i've used the command on the website(not sure if i can publish it here) - dd bs=512M if=file.iso of=/dev/sde
[18:54] <k1l> not-me: i dont see how ubuntu can help there. we dont know what the arch iso is made for
[18:54] <raub> not-me: is the .iso 30MB long?
[18:54] <not-me> blackarch - it's archlinux type distro
[18:54] <k1l> not-me: ask arch. it doesnt come with a full installer like ubuntu.
[18:55] <raub> not-me: what others are saying you will need to be asking questions in arch. The arch install is more manual than the ubuntu
[18:55] <not-me> well its not really about the installation, i'm having a problem with the usb stick, it really doesnt matter what iso would be uploaded on it. As i havent used the command before i thought maybe i could find a specialist here that knows how to fix the problem that the command does - dd bs=512M if=file.iso of=/dev/sde
[18:56] <raub> not-me: you didnot answer my question
[18:56] <not-me> no the iso is 2,6gb
[18:56] <k1l> not-me: the command is right. but we dont know if the iso is right. or right what you expected. so please ask the specialists in the arch support. or ask in ##linux
[18:56] <raub> not-me: was the usb drive in /dev/sde when you copied file.iso to it
[18:56] <not-me> yes it was
[18:57] <raub> Then something went boink in there. Try to see if you can repartition it using fdisk to its full capacity
[18:57] <Guest70398> hey, can anyone help: upgraded to 14.04 and grub broke. I have an old 12.10 live disk that boots from bios, and looking through forums I am not sure the fix - this is the symbol grub_term_highlight
[18:57] <raub> not-me: that should show if the drive is ok
[18:58] <raub> Guest70398: how did it broke? I have had good luck booting from the repair mode in the server disk and then reinstalling/reconfiguring crap as needed
[18:59] <thoonai> gtg bye
[18:59] <Guest70398> raub , well it won't boot, not even into grub
[19:00] <Putti> Hi, what's proprietary place to install for example JDK or eclipse etc? /usr/local or /opt? Thanks!
[19:00] <raub> Guest70398: can it boot from a CD/iso?
[19:00] <not-me> the partition manager shows the drive is 30mb, instead of 8gb.
[19:00] <k1l> Putti: /opt is fine
[19:00] <Guest70398> yes, I'm in a live CD of 12.10 right now
[19:00] <k1l> Putti: but there is some jdk in the repos iirc
[19:01] <raub> not-me: partition or disk?
[19:01] <Guest70398> disk
[19:01] <Putti> k1l, ok! Thank you :)
[19:02] <raub> Guest70398: boot fromt he server CD. THe repair mode chroots the crap in the HD so you can then reinstall grub as needed or just reconfigure/reran it
[19:02] <nullbyte_> does ubuntu supports GeForce gtx295?
[19:02] <nullbyte_> 14.04 lts
[19:03] <Guest70398> thanks raub , but do you mind giving me a little more specifics, I'm only a step above noob
[19:03] <Korrosion> Can anyone help me with gedit?
[19:03] <raub> Guest70398: when you boot the server CD, one of the options is to repair disk
[19:03] <Jordan_U> Guest70398: Assuming the 12.10 LiveCD is 64 bit (or your 14.04 install is 32 bit), follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[19:03] <Player> Hi, I have a VPS that I'm about to reformat.  My host hasn't added the option to reinstall with Ubuntu 14.04, just 13.10.  Can I reinstall with 13.10 and upgrade to 14.04?  What commands would I run?  Thanks!
[19:04] <Kabouik> Hi there. I am a new Linux user and I'd am looking for some help for patching a kernel (I need it to improve touch support on my touch laptop). If anyone can help, please PM me. I have cookies.
[19:04] <Yelu> !ask | Korrosion
[19:05] <Jordan_U> Player: Whether or not you can upgrade (successfully) depends on how the VPS is configured. For example, some virtualization solutions won't allow the kernel to be upgraded in the guest.
[19:05] <Korrosion> My file is crashing in gedit. I set the highlighting and now only that file name crashes gedit. I need a way to clear a highlighting syntax file so I can open it again
[19:05] <Player> Jordan_U, I have complete sudo control over the machine.
[19:06] <Guest70398> thanks raub and jordan _u , I'll try and let you know!
[19:06] <Yelu> Korrosion, what happens to your file, if you'd rename it to something like text.txt ad reopen? - BTW, what is the filename of?
[19:06] <DzAirmaX> raub : can i just make an install of the package on the exisitng one or I need to proceed differentyl ?
[19:06] <cipiglio> hallo!
[19:06] <Jordan_U> Player: You probably have complete control over the *Virtual* machine / container. Often, (always with containers), having root permissions within the guest still won't allow you to upgrade the kernel.
[19:07] <Yelu> Korrosion, open terminal, cd into folder, rename with "cp ... ..."
[19:07] <Korrosion> Yelu: It opens if I rename it. It's a .cfg file I use for configuring nagios
[19:07] <Player> Jordan_U, Alright, I'll try it and if it doesn't work just run another reinstall.  Thanks!
[19:07] <Yelu> Korrosion, mmh ...
[19:08] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am working dhcpd and looking at the man page something isn't too clear to me.  the section about unknown-clients.  short of specifying hosts in the dhcpd.conf file, is there any other way for there to be a list of known clients?
[19:08] <Praxi> If anyone is bored, trying to figure out my udev rules, asked it on http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition
[19:08] <Jordan_U> Player: Note that it may partially work. I wouldn't be surprised if a 14.04 userland could boot on a 13.10 kernel, but certain things may be broken (and you may not immediately notice them).
[19:08] <Yelu> Korrosion, I don't know, where GEdit is holding the syntax definitions (which might be corrupted?). - Try to open another nagios.cfg file ... what is the outcome?
[19:09] <Player> Jordan_U, Thanks for the additional info.
[19:09] <Player> Is there any sound way I can test to see if things will break or is it just a shot in the dark?
[19:10] <Korrosion> Yelu: Ok here's the kicker. I'm opening it using filezilla. When I move it to my desktop it opens just fine with no hightlighting
[19:11] <Korrosion> Yelu: I can open other .cfg files no problem
[19:11] <Jordan_U> Player: Try the upgrade, and confirm that after the upgrade "uname -r" shows that you've booted a 3.13 kernel.
[19:12] <Yelu> Korrosion, oops. - ok, then that particular file maybe is damaged? - just open it with another editor nd copy/paste it intoto a new file. - BTW: the syntax defslive in "/usr/share/gtksourceview-3.0/language-specs/..."
[19:12] <Player> Jordan_U, Will do, if you're interested I'll report back with the results.
[19:12] <Korrosion> Yelu: killing filezilla and reopening seemed to fix it
[19:12] <Jordan_U> Player: Sure.
[19:12] <sl33k_> Firefox and chrome become unresponsive/freeze for a few seconds. The screen looses focus and appears darkened in the meantime. Is this a known problem or a bug?
[19:13] <Yelu> Korrosion, so your problem is solved?
[19:13] <Korrosion> Yelu: Seems like it :
[19:13] <nooneishere> Where would I find a doc saying that 14.04 or older supports the Samsung Series 7 lineup? I know for awhile the kernel didn't support the hardware, but I was under the impression it does now?
[19:13] <Korrosion> :\ very weird issue
[19:13] <Yelu> Korrosion, indeed ...
[19:14] <Jordan_U> Praxi: Does the partition show up in /dev/disk/by-uuid/?
[19:14] <Jordan_U> Praxi: That would give you a good intication of whether or not udev recognises exfat UUIDs.
[19:17] <SolarAquarion> i'm getting 404 updates for the ubuntu repos
[19:17] <sl33k_> Firefox and chrome become unresponsive/freeze for a few seconds. The screen looses focus and appears darkened in the meantime. Is this a known problem or a bug?
[19:19] <bekks> SolarAquarion: You havent updated in a long time ;)
[19:19] <Pici> SolarAquarion: What release of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:19] <bekks> sl33k_: That happens when doing what in your browser?
[19:20] <SolarAquarion> bekks: unicorn and ubuntu touch
[19:20] <sl33k_> bekks: When there are > 2/3 tabs. Or when I am streaming videos.
[19:20] <Yelu> SolarAquarion, this is "back to the future" then ;)
[19:20] <bekks> sl33k_: which hardware are you on?
[19:21] <SolarAquarion> Yelu: "utopic unicorn"
[19:21] <sl33k_> bekks: intel core 2 duo dell
[19:21] <Yelu> SolarAquarion, yep
[19:21] <genii> SolarAquarion: Might want to ask in #ubuntu-touch
[19:21] <SolarAquarion> genii: that's the wrong channel
[19:22] <bekks> sl33k_: Which one of the zillion of "Core 2 Duo"?
[19:22] <bekks> sl33k_: And which of the myriad of "Dell" computers?
[19:22] <genii> SolarAquarion: Second one to try would be #ubuntu+1
[19:23] <SolarAquarion> genii: Yelu when i try to download packages/sources it 404's
[19:23] <bekks> !unicorn | SolarAquarion
[19:23] <nooneishere> Where would I find a doc saying that 14.04 or older supports the Samsung Series 7 lineup? I know for awhile the kernel didn't support the hardware, but I was under the impression it does now?
[19:24] <popey> SolarAquarion: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" first?
[19:24] <SolarAquarion> popey: yes
[19:24] <popey> SolarAquarion: can you pastebin the output of you trying to apt-get something please?
[19:24] <sl33k_> bekks: pasted lshw output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7469373/
[19:25] <bekks> sl33k_: Just name the Dell model and the exact Core 2 Duo :)
[19:26] <Guest70398> still a bit confused, I'm trying to fix grub that seemed to brake in 14.04 update. only have a mini tablet right now so its hard to follow this irc and I'm confused reading through the forums linked to me for a fix. I have a Luce CD running and took some pics of terminal and gparted https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hlo4b168qfgm19k/AADyu2dNXMkxHD6qXai02U4pa I just don't know what my next steps should be, the PC has two drives, one with w
[19:26] <SolarAquarion> popey: how do i copy and paste for ubuntu touch
[19:26] <popey> SolarAquarion: are you doing this over adb shell ?
[19:26] <SolarAquarion> no
[19:26] <popey> directly on the device?
[19:26] <sl33k_> bekks: processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T6570  @ 2.10GHz
[19:26] <SolarAquarion> but i should be doing it over adb shell?
[19:26] <SolarAquarion> yes
[19:26] <Guest70398> hoping someone can help via pm or email as I can't easily follow this irc
[19:26] <popey> did you enable read/write mode SolarAquarion ?
[19:26] <sl33k_> bekks: model vostro 1015
[19:27] <SolarAquarion> hmm? i'm in the gui?
[19:27] <popey> SolarAquarion: can you explain how you're doing the apt-get?
[19:27] <skinux> How exactly do we enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE in Trusty?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> Guest70398: You can use "/lastlog Guest70398" to see all the messages sent to / from you in the channel.
[19:29] <Jordan_U> Guest70398: And it might make it easier for you and us if you changed your nick to something else (choose something reasonably simple, but not likely to have been already registered). You can change your nick with "/nick Newnick".
[19:33] <demkantor> Jordan_U are you OK with helping via pm?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Guest56047: First though, try changing the boot order in your BIOS. If it's currently configured to boot from the Windows drive, configure it to boot from the Ubuntu drive. If it's currently configured to boot from the Ubuntu drive, configure it to boot from the Windows drive.
[19:35] <Jordan_U> demkantor: Yes, but I prefer to keep discussion in-channel.
[19:35] <demkantor> thanks, but I'm pretty noob when it comes to this Jordan_U last time something similar happed to me it took a few days to get fixed, do you mind explaining a bit more in depth
[19:37] <Jordan_U> demkantor: First try changing the boot order in your BIOS. If it's currently configured to boot from the Windows drive, configure it to boot from the Ubuntu drive. If it's currently configured to boot from the Ubuntu drive, configure it to boot from the Windows drive. This type of error usually happens when Ubuntu is configured to install grub's boot sector to a different drive than the one your BIOS is actually booting from.
[19:37] <skinux> Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf anymore?
[19:38] <bekks> skinux: Because it isnt needed by default.
[19:38] <Jordan_U> skinux: Because X.org can auto-configure most things now. If you create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf it will be used.
[19:39] <ianorlin> also if you are not careful couldn't you break your xdisplay editing it?
[19:39] <evan82> So how do you kill an active TCPIP connection from a specific ip?
[19:39] <Yelu> skinux, this is for 12.04 (killing X-Server) => http://ubuntuportal.com/2012/05/restart-x-server-ubuntu-12-04-without-rebooting.html
[19:39] <evan82> it's open, I know the IP and I need to just kill it
[19:40] <intok> How can you disable Tap-Click when theres no options under "Mouse & Touchpad" for touchpads? The tochpad I'm using is a Logitecg K400r
[19:41] <demkantor> Jordan_U thanks! it booted! now I just need to dick around with bios and fix default boot location! much appreciated! lh
[19:41] <Yelu> evan82,google for conntrack and read the manual
[19:42] <evan82> thanks
[19:43] <Yelu> evan82, you're welcome.
[19:43] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am working dhcpd and looking at the man page something isn't too clear to me.  the section about unknown-clients.  short of specifying hosts in the dhcpd.conf file, is there any other way for there to be a list of known clients?
[19:44] <Jordan_U> demkantor: Actually, I would recommend configuring Ubuntu to always install grub's boot sector to both drives' MBR, that way it doesn't matter which one it boots from.
[19:45] <skinux> Yelu: Thanks, but I'm using 14.04 (Trusty)
[19:45] <Jordan_U> demkantor: You can do that by running "sudo dpkg-recofigure grub-pc" and following the prompts, when you get to the question about install devices select all of the drives, but *none* of the partitions. Select/unselect a device with space bar, continue with Enter.
[19:45] <demkantor> Jordan_U do you mind a quick explanation how? in the dropbox folder I attached pics of gparted on both drives and terminal output
[19:45] <xtbman> I downloaded a GUI program that is too big for my screen. There's no way to decrease the size of the program's height, so the bottom is cut off. Is there any way for me to zoom out or scroll further down? I tried changing the resolution, but I don't have an option that shows the whole program.
[19:46] <Jordan_U> xtbman: Hold alt and drag with your mouse.
[19:46] <keevitaja> hi, can somebody explain me these errors in the syslog http://pastebin.com/b7FEnKQX
[19:46] <xtbman> Jordan_U: THANK YOU
[19:47] <Jordan_U> xtbman: You're welcome.
[19:48] <skinux> Does DontZap tool work with Trusty Trahl?
[19:49] <k1l> skinux: that xserver restart is disabled on ubuntu
[19:50] <linuxnoob> Hi I'm in intro to Linux using 10.04 and I'm stuck on a lab problem.
[19:50] <skinux> So, there is no way to restart X using keyboard shortcut?
[19:50] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Aegir Quit)
[19:50] <k1l> linuxnoob: are you sure on 10.04?
[19:50] <k1l> !away > Aegir
[19:51] <linuxnoob> I've got it open on another pc
[19:51] <k1l> linuxnoob: 14.04 is the actual release. 10.04 is out of date for the desktop
[19:51] <skinux> I guess I could simply login to a second (shell) session, kill X, then startx
[19:51] <k1l> linuxnoob: and root running irc is a bad idea, too :)
[19:51] <linuxnoob> Yes I'm aware of that I'm just using it for class
[19:52] <k1l> skinux: just logout. then the xserver gets restarted
[19:52] <k1l> skinux: dont run startx on ubuntu. that will make trouble
[19:54] <demkantor> Jordan_U I ran the command and followed prompts but now the terminal seems like... I don't know, nothing is happening and I can't OK any further
[19:55] <nigh7m4r3> hello
[19:55] <Jordan_U> demkantor: Please post a screenshot.
[19:55] <nigh7m4r3> someone there?
[19:55] <skinux> Sometimes the desktop gets frozen where I can move the mouse, but I can't do anything else.
[19:55] <skinux> So, I can't logout when that happens.
[19:56] <k1l> skinux: see if you can siwtch to konsole with ctrl+alt+f1
[19:56] <nigh7m4r3> can anyone one tell me, with one GB of ram, what environment should I use?
[19:57] <nigh7m4r3> i mean desktop env.
[19:57] <demkantor> Jordan_U, never mind, as soon as I closed gparted it began to continue. I think I am good nowl
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> nigh7m4r3: i have good luck with i3 with 2 gigs
[19:57] <k1l> nigh7m4r3: try lubuntu
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> nigh7m4r3: but i3 is tiling so it isn't for everyone
[19:57] <nigh7m4r3> I have a i3 and 4GB ram
[19:57] <nigh7m4r3> but in my netbook
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> i3 window manager
[19:57] <mrgoodcat> not cpu
[19:57] <nigh7m4r3> i need a bit faster
[19:57] <k1l> !lubuntu | nigh7m4r3
[19:58] <nigh7m4r3> oh! :p
[19:58]  * genii makes a note about changing !GNOME to !Unity at some point
[19:59] <demkantor> thanks again Jordan_U , all appears to be working as it should now! you rock!
[19:59] <Trudko> guys I am trying to do dual boot with windows 8 . Should I set booting to UEFI with secure boot OFF or to legacy with secure boot OFF?
[20:02] <moza> Hello
[20:03] <skinux> Yes, that works.
[20:03] <moza> This is my third kernel panic tonight. I can't even get memtest to begin the first pass. It's a new RAM stick, as were the two or three previous ones i tried to add : Does that mean i need to change the motherboard?
[20:03] <skinux> @jil
[20:03] <k1l> Trudko: for me worked legacy bios boot
[20:03] <skinux> @kil*
[20:04] <skinux> Shit, I need to go.
[20:04] <Trudko> hmm and should uefi without secure boot work too?
[20:04] <Trudko> isnt secure boot the problem?
[20:04] <k1l> skinux: then you can login there and see what is causing the load (with top or htop) or you kill the xserver with sudo lightdm restart
[20:08] <Trudko> from what I see secure boot on could work with ubuntu\
[20:09] <ikonia> it's a pointless discussion though in the current situation
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Trudko: Ubuntu supports secure boot just fine.
[20:09] <Trudko> cool so I dont have to deal with th?
[20:09] <Trudko> with it
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Trudko: Correct, just install Ubuntu normally.
[20:10] <Trudko> awesome
[20:10] <Trudko> I got bit consude by some articles on ubuntu website I guess that applied for older versions
[20:10] <Trudko> I guess also fast boot is ok right?
[20:10] <Trudko> fast startup
[20:10] <ikonia> it's all based around shim - it's not a proper secure boot solution, but its the same solution other distributions are doing
[20:11] <Trudko> anyway going to install it
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Trudko: Fastboot often means "Initializing the keyboard before booting the OS takes to long, so we'll just skip that and not let you use the keyboard until an OS is booted". Suffice it to say, if you want to have a menu to choose between different operating systems at boot, being able to use the keyboard before an OS is booted is important :)
[20:12] <Trudko> cool ok :)
[20:14] <rek> !ot
[20:14] <ikonia> rek: ?
[20:17] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am working dhcpd and looking at the man page something isn't too clear to me.  the section about unknown-clients.  short of specifying hosts in the dhcpd.conf file, is there any other way for there to be a list of known clients?
[20:18] <ikonia> what do you mean list of unknown-clients ?
[20:18] <ikonia> unknown clients is a function for clients it can't identify
[20:18] <Praxi> thanks Jordan_U let me check that
[20:19] <Praxi> It does show up there
[20:19] <Praxi> so my udev rule just isn't running
[20:24] <sudormrf> ikonia, I am talking about the documentation.  it's in the man page.  I can't think of a way that there will be "known clients" other than specifying them in the dhcpd.conf file
[20:25] <ikonia> sudormrf: clients can identify themselves many ways
[20:25] <Jordan_U> Praxi: Try asking in #udev.
[20:26] <milan> Nick Milanmpek
[20:27] <sudormrf> ikonia, that doesn't really answer the question.
[20:27] <ikonia> sudormrf: it does, it depends on how you/what you identify against
[20:28] <ikonia> then the unknown-clients are whatever is left
[20:28] <drognar> sudormrf: I think you're right
[20:29] <Praxi> oh good call, thanks Jordan_U!  sometimes IRC surprises me with what channels are available
[20:29] <Milanmpek> is anyone having "Black screen on boot" problem with ubuntu 14.04?
[20:29] <artyom> Ваша убунта ГОВНО!!!
[20:29] <sudormrf> ikonia, .....this is the be the primary DHCP/DNS server on the LAN.  I am tossing around the idea of having sort of guest network type thing setup.  But you haven't really answered the question.  I understand full well how networking works.
[20:29] <sudormrf> ikonia, I appreciate the help
[20:29] <sudormrf> drognar, what do you mean
[20:30] <ikonia> if you just want a guest network, why are you bothering with identified clients ?
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Praxi: You're welcome.
[20:30] <sudormrf> ikonia, nm.  the man page answered it: An unknown client is simply a client that has no host declaration.
[20:30] <sudormrf> ikonia, which is what I was assuming.
[20:30] <drognar> sudormrf: If you don't specify the client in the config file, it's an unknown client. so for guest users etc.
[20:31] <ikonia> an unknown client is a non-identified client, it's that simple
[20:31] <sudormrf> drognar, thanks :).  that is what I had assumed, just wasn't sure if there was some other fancy thing that I could do.
[20:31] <sudormrf> ikonia, incorrect.
[20:31] <ikonia> but I don't see how that fits into a guest network
[20:31] <drognar> ikonia: Example - regular staff, and visitors
[20:31] <ikonia> sudormrf: I assure you it's not incorrect
[20:31] <ikonia> drognar: that's a different type of identification, but no less valid
[20:32] <sudormrf> ikonia, segmenting the network so that guest clients are on a different network.
[20:32] <ikonia> sudormrf: right, but client identification is not going to match guests/non-guests
[20:32] <sudormrf> ikonia, incorrect.
[20:32] <ikonia> unless you start using grouping
[20:32] <sudormrf> ikonia, if client = known client = not a guest.
[20:32] <ikonia> sudormrf: it's not incorrect at all
[20:32] <sudormrf> ikonia, if client = unknown client = guest.
[20:33] <omar_> Hi all.
[20:33] <artyom> Could you tell why this ubuntu is a stupid piece of shit, it is buggy a lot?
[20:33] <ikonia> sudormrf: but that means you'll have to have individual host decleration
[20:33] <ikonia> which is what I said tat the start and you said you didn't see any other way to do it
[20:33] <ikonia> then I tried to explain there are many ways to identify clients,
[20:33] <ikonia> and you stated "incorrect"
[20:33] <sudormrf> ikonia, which is what I was asking from the get.  which I found the answer to.
[20:34] <Player> Jordan_U, Sorry about the late response (I was away while it did the upgrade).  I just rebooted and did uname -r, it's using the 2.6.32-042stab084.20 kernel, I assume that's not the one we want so I'm going to just reformat once again.  Thanks for your help!
[20:34] <ikonia> sudormrf: I said that at the very start
[20:34] <omar_> Is there any other way to establish an infrastructure hotspot on my laptop other than the use of ap-hotspot(which I couldn't get to work with 14.04)?
[20:34] <Trudko> Guys when installing ubuntu i left some free space so I have alocated 4gb and set it to swap and rest of it where ubuntu it self will be I set to ext 4 what should be mountaining point ? : /?
[20:34] <sudormrf> ikonia, please re-read my question and responses to you.  I was asking if there were any other way to identify clients.
[20:34] <sudormrf> ikonia, apparently there is a miscommunication here.  no worries, I think we are all sorted.
[20:34] <ikonia> sudormrf: and I said "yes, many ways"
[20:34] <sudormrf> ikonia, and here we go again.
[20:35] <sudormrf> ikonia, ok, please provide an example of one of these ways so I can have a better feel for what you are talking about.
[20:35] <ikonia> sudormrf: you're sorted, I can't be bothered with this
[20:35] <drognar> having to manually configure entries for machines kind of defeats the point of dhcp
[20:35] <sudormrf> ikonia, no need to be hostile.  but thanks.
[20:35] <skinux> kil: Yes, I can access shell via ctrl+alt+f2...why did you ask?
[20:35] <ikonia> you know better as you keep stating "incorrect" so you sort yourself out
[20:35] <ikonia> sudormrf: I'm not being hostile, I'm telling you I can't be bothered
[20:35] <andresvia> Hello guys and gals.
[20:36] <sudormrf> drognar, I agree.
[20:36] <ikonia> drognar: hence why I said "many ways" such as group, location, even speed of hitting different dhcp servers
[20:36] <ikonia> key based, client id based
[20:36] <ikonia> many ways
[20:36] <ikonia> but i'm "incorrect"
[20:36] <ikonia> so enjoy entering the entries manually
[20:37] <Jordan_U> Player: You're welcome.
[20:37] <andresvia> I'm trying to preseed a random hostname, but don't know how to do it, I have been trying with: "d-i preseed/early_command string debconf-set netcfg/get_hostname $(uuidgen)" on my preseed file, but is not working.
[20:37] <sudormrf> ikonia, I asked you to elaborate.  you did not.
[20:37] <ikonia> sudormrf: I've been told I'm incorrect twice by the person who doesn't know the answer (hence asking the question) so I can't be bothered
[20:37] <andresvia> Also I have tried with "d-i preseed/early_command string debconf-set netcfg/get_hostname foo" , the installation completes automatically but the hostname remains "ubuntu".
[20:38] <andresvia> But I need a dynamic hostname.
[20:38] <sudormrf> ikonia, w/e.  thanks m8.
[20:40] <omar_> Is there any other way to establish an infrastructure hotspot on my laptop other than the use of ap-hotspot(which I couldn't get to work with 14.04)?
[20:40] <franco1> hi
[20:42] <saiberz> lusers
[20:43] <k1l> saiberz: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[20:44] <hakim> i
[20:44] <MrFrizz> ello?
[20:47] <Voyage_> I am installing openhrm. it says do sudo chown -R nobody.nobody /home/user1/wpm-site/orangehrm
[20:47] <Voyage_> I dont have a nobody:nobody
[20:48] <ikonia> you need a non-interactive account
[20:48] <Voyage_> like?
[20:48] <ikonia> or if it's a website the owner of your webserver account
[20:48] <ikonia> (I'm guessing it's the website owner based on the word "site" in the url
[20:48] <ikonia> in the path sorry
[20:48] <Voyage_> ikonia,  is this this correct nobody.nobody     or   nobody: nobody?
[20:49] <ikonia> nobody:nobody
[20:49] <Voyage_> $ sudo chown -R nobody:nobody /home/user1/wpm-site/orangehrm
[20:49] <Voyage_> chown: invalid group: `nobody:nobody'
[20:49] <Voyage_> http://www.orangehrm.com/installation-Linux.shtml
[20:49] <ikonia> right, because it doesn't exist
[20:49] <ikonia> that's why I said you either need a non-interactive account, or your website owner, if this is a website
[20:50] <Voyage_> its a website that I am installing
[20:50] <ikonia> so your website owner/group should be the chown user
[20:50] <Voyage_> can I just make it chmod -R 777 ?
[20:50] <ikonia> or just make it world read/executable
[20:50] <ikonia> 777 is very bad
[20:50] <Voyage_> then?
[20:50] <ikonia> then what ?
[20:50] <bluezone> is python3.4 in the repos?
[20:51] <Voyage_> if 777 i sbad. what to use ikonia
[20:51] <ikonia> exactly what I've told you
[20:51] <Voyage_> k
[20:51] <rantic> diddly doo
[20:53] <rantic> bluezone: search for it and find out
[20:53] <bluezone> rantic, i didn't find it
[20:53] <bluezone> just confirming
[20:53] <bluezone> seems all you guys have is 3.2...
[20:53] <rantic> bluezone: Are you running 14.04?
[20:53] <bluezone> it's not like 3.4 is a dev version haha
[20:53] <bluezone> yes
[20:54] <rantic> my installation came with 3.4
[20:54] <rantic> i just checked
[20:54] <rantic> that might explain why you couldn't find it, launch it with python3 not python
[20:55] <bluezone> rantic, apt-get install python3 yields python3.2
[20:55] <rantic> bluezone: I'm saying it is already installed on your system, open a terminal and type python3
[20:56] <bluezone> rantic, yields python3.2, python3 is not installed by default afaik
[20:56] <rantic> bluezone: odd... I've barely installed anything so I wonder what might have it installed it as a dependency
[20:58] <eightythree> hi :)
[20:58] <rantic> bluezone: Stupid question ... have you updated yet?
[20:59] <bluezone> rantic, apt-get update? yes
[20:59] <rantic> bluezone: you've run an upgrade as well?
[20:59] <bluezone> hmm
[20:59] <bluezone> maybe not
[20:59] <ikonia> updates won't change the base python version
[21:00] <aarobc> I need someone to test something for me
[21:00] <aarobc> anyone have ffmpeg installed and bored?
[21:00] <rantic> ikonia: I installed 14.04 2 days ago and I have only installed Xchat.. yet running pyhton3 yields version 3.4 for and 3.2 for him.
[21:01] <ikonia> rantic: dpkg -l | grpe python
[21:01] <rantic> ikonia: I've installed one application and run an upgrade through apt.. I'm curious
[21:01] <ikonia> rantic: apt-cache policy python3
[21:01] <ikonia> !info python3
[21:01] <ikonia> the base version is 3.4
[21:01] <ikonia> in 14.04
[21:01] <rantic> so unless bluezone somehow backported him ... he should have 3.4 out of the box?
[21:02] <rantic> himself*
[21:02] <ikonia> correct
[21:03] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i suspect this probably isn't easy/possible, but is there any way of disabling the "OOM killer" (as i've heard it called in here) in 14.04? in previous versions of ubuntu i was able to play a lot of steam games without issue, but since upgrading it seems that it's killing a lot of games as they're trying to load :(
[21:03] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: because you have out of memory errors
[21:03] <rantic> bluezone: I'm not knowledgeable enough to help you beyond that ... Ubuntu 14.04 shipped with Python 3.4, something you've installed or configured may have downgraded your python base package OR ... lazily written an alias for python3 to point to a 3.2 install. Anyone a little more experienced have another idea?
[21:03] <ikonia> fix that - not OOM
[21:03] <djhsadja> I just got a laptop with windows 7. Is it possible to keep the windows partition, but install Xubuntu in a separate patiton and then have full disk encryption?
[21:06] <rantic> djhsadja: The short story is yes ... truecrypt will do full disk encryption. This looks relevant: http://www.7tutorials.com/how-encrypt-your-system-drive-truecrypt-multi-boot-configuration
[21:06] <Trudko> Guys I got error in cheese how do I get more details_
[21:06] <arthurfiggis> ikonia: not sure i follow...if it's that i just need more memory (in general), would increasing the amount of allocated swap be a temporary solution until i can upgrade the actual ram in the machine?
[21:06] <rantic> Trudko: By giving us more details
[21:07] <ikonia> swap is not memory
[21:07] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: are these native games or wine by any chance ?
[21:07] <Trudko> rantic make no sense.. where can I get log or something?
[21:07] <rantic> Trudko: What task are you doing that cheese throws an error, and what does it say
[21:08] <arthurfiggis> ikonia: well no, it's not actual memory, it's just using some disk space as memory if i understand right :) they're native games as i understand, using the steam client installed from what i assume are the default repositories (i didn't add any special ones)
[21:08] <arthurfiggis> i've never had much luck with wine so i haven't tried running steam under it recently
[21:08] <bekks> arthurfiggis: It doesnt use disk space as memory. It swaps out memory to disk space.
[21:09] <rantic> arthurfiggis: trying to use swap for something as intensive on memory operations as a game sounds ugly and slow
[21:09] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: I think you'd benifit from finding out if they really are native linux games or being launched through wine, as OOMs are not uncommon in wine
[21:09] <ikonia> (even when launched via steam)
[21:09] <arthurfiggis> bekks: ahh, got it
[21:09] <Yelu> djhsadja, I'm not sure. I'd make a full backup of my system image Windows 7 backup), fully encrypt the drive with truecrypt (new truecrypt bootloader will be installed) and *after* then install Xubuntu like you told us. - Important: Again, I have NOT done this yet!
[21:09] <Trudko> rantic I open it nothing else and error is" There was error playing video from the webcam
[21:09] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: how much ram do you actually have ?
[21:10] <arthurfiggis> ikonia: sorry, i thought i mentioned that before :) 4GB total
[21:10] <bluezone> something is REALLY screwed up with this install, sudo apt-get install python3-pip doesnt even find python3-pip
[21:10] <ikonia> bluezone: is that even a valid package
[21:10] <ikonia> !info python3-pip
[21:10] <bluezone> ikonia, yes
[21:10] <ikonia> bluezone: what happens when you run apt-get install python3-pip
[21:11] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: so not a small ammount of ram,
[21:11] <bluezone> sudo apt-get install python3-pip
[21:11] <bluezone> oops
[21:11] <bluezone> anyway it says it doesn't find the package
[21:11] <ikonia> what's the exact error
[21:12] <bluezone> maybe my PPAs are all screwed up, E: Unable to locate package python3-pip
[21:12] <arthurfiggis> ikonia: i didn't think that it was :) it certainly didn't seem to be inadequate in previous versions of ubuntu...as of 14.04 it seems that anything that hogs a lot of RAM gets oom-killed :(
[21:13] <ikonia> arthurfiggis: thats a good thing that it gets killed
[21:13] <arthurfiggis> (virtualbox is another culprit that seemed to work well on the same system before)
[21:13] <sudormrf> bluezone, have you tried enabling additional repos?
[21:13] <ikonia> you shouldn't need additional repos
[21:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[21:14] <bluezone> i did, and i misled you guys before actually this is 12.04
[21:14] <bluezone> and it's a virtual machine
[21:14] <sudormrf> bluezone, try apt-cache search python3
[21:14] <ikonia> ok, so there is your answer then
[21:14] <sudormrf> bluezone, try apt-cache search python3 | grep pip
[21:14] <compdoc> bluezone, omg no
[21:14] <bluezone> ikonia, what?
[21:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> can you guys expand a bit more on "outside of rndc, and running the daemon [BIND] manually, you'll need to incorporate any desired automated start/stop mechanisms as is appropriate for your operating system"
[21:15] <ikonia> bluezone: it's 12.04 - that's why your python version is different than expected
[21:15] <bluezone> ikonia, the problem is i can't install python3.4
[21:15] <ikonia> MDTech-us_MAN: you'll need to manage the starting/stopping of the daemon
[21:15] <bluezone> it's not found at all
[21:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> the guys in #bind told me to "consult whatever community supports your operating system"
[21:15] <bluezone> and i can't install pip3 at all either
[21:15] <ikonia> 3.4 is in 14.04, 3.2 is in 12.04
[21:15] <ikonia> bluezone: correct, it's not in 12.04
[21:15] <sudormrf> bluezone, so this is a 12.04 install?
[21:15] <bluezone> yeah
[21:15] <bluezone> why would they do that?
[21:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> ikonia, how...
[21:16] <ikonia> bluezone: because that's the version the distro is built around
[21:16] <ikonia> MDTech-us_MAN: shell scripts as an easy example
[21:16] <ikonia> if you're not using rndc
[21:16] <sudormrf> bluezone, http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-python-3-4-on-ubuntu-13-1012-1012-04-linux-mint-161413-and-elementary-os-0-2/
[21:16] <bluezone> ikonia, but i should still be able to install a different version myself for my own purpose
[21:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> i want to rehash BIND (compiled from source) but there is no such option
[21:16] <ikonia> bluezone: not from official repos you shouldn't be
[21:17] <ikonia> MDTech-us_MAN: what do you mean "no such option" ?
[21:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> that is what got me her
[21:17] <ikonia> what option are you looking for
[21:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> I want to reload the config
[21:17] <ikonia> MDTech-us_MAN: you're meant o use rndc, or write your own process to stop/start the daemon
[21:17] <sudormrf> bluezone, try what was at that link, see if it will work for you
[21:18] <bluezone> ok
[21:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh, ok
[21:18] <sudormrf> bluezone, also, this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6587507/how-to-install-pip-with-python-3
[21:18] <ikonia> bluezone: I VERY strongly advise you not to use that link at all
[21:19] <Beldar> sudormrf, You know PPA's are not supported here and frowned upon advising?
[21:19] <sudormrf> Beldar, I didn't know that.
[21:19] <bluezone> ikonia, how the hell am i supposed to distribute python3.4 scripts to users who are not on 14.04?
[21:19] <ikonia> especially when it's changing a key system library
[21:19] <ikonia> bluezone: you're not supposed to, or your supposed to build a safe package
[21:20] <Beldar> sudormrf, Unless that is the only option is all.
[21:20] <sudormrf> Beldar, noted :).
[21:20] <Beldar> cool
[21:20] <bluezone> ikonia, at the very least, i need the users to be able to install pip3!
[21:20] <bluezone> otherwise how will they get all the scripts out there it doesn't make any sense
[21:21] <ikonia> it makes perfect sense
[21:21] <bluezone> so how do 12.04 users get python 3 modules then
[21:23] <bluezone> ikonia, hello? :P
[21:24] <k1l> !info python3 precise
[21:24] <sl33k_> What does M-A mean in GNU nano editor?
[21:25] <sl33k_> Pressing alt - a does nothing
[21:25] <sudormrf> aaaannnnddd another SSD just bit the dust
[21:25] <k1l> sl33k_: ctrl+a?
[21:25] <bluezone> sudormrf, garbage :P
[21:25] <bluezone> sudormrf, did you lose anything?
[21:25] <sudormrf> bluezone, wasn't my drive.  these micron drives are garbage.
[21:26] <sl33k_> k1l: nope. it went to start of the line
[21:26] <k1l> sl33k_: where does that list M-A ?
[21:26] <daftykins> sudormrf: M500?
[21:26] <sl33k_> k1l: as append to file.
[21:27] <sl33k_> alt-a does the saving
[21:27] <adamcunnington> Is there an easy way to get a file path?
[21:27] <k1l> sl33k_: well, i dont understand what you really want to get to know. so see "man nano"
[21:27] <adamcunnington> in windows you can copy the file path from my computer. There doesn't seem to be anything similar within nautilus which seems barmy
[21:27] <k1l> adamcunnington: "pwd" lists your actual filepath
[21:28] <adamcunnington> k1l: i'm not "in" a file
[21:28] <sudormrf> daftykins, YOU AGAIN!??!?! :D c400
[21:28] <daftykins> sudormrf: not encountered the C400 0o
[21:28] <adamcunnington> and cd'ing to the directory in order to get the directory path seems a little redundant
[21:28] <sudormrf> daftykins, lucky you.  these things are junk.
[21:28] <daftykins> sudormrf: oh that's the name for the M4 - i've got some in some systems
[21:28] <k1l> adamcunnington: you didnt tell about nautilius in the first place :)
[21:28] <daftykins> sudormrf: i know them as Crucial branded though
[21:28] <adamcunnington> k1l: well anyway that is simple
[21:29] <sl33k_> will check it, k1l. Are the man pages an easy read for new and intermediate tux users?
[21:29] <sudormrf> daftykins, interesting.   I have had more of these die on me than any other ssd
[21:29] <ikonia> bluezone: sorry I was on the phone, what was your quesiton
[21:29] <adamcunnington> k1l: but yea getting a full file path from nautilus would be incredibly useful
[21:29] <adamcunnington> and i'm amazed ubuntu has got to 14.04 without that feature being majorly requested
[21:29] <k1l> sl33k_: just give yourself a read. exit the man page with q
[21:29] <bluezone> ikonia, how do people get python3 scripts in 12.04
[21:29] <bluezone> say,  for e.g. developpers
[21:29] <sudormrf> adamcunnington, ctrl + l ?
[21:29] <ikonia> bluezone: distribute them how you see fit
[21:30] <daftykins> adamcunnington: no offense, but i was unaware that people are that clueless about where files are that they need to copy and paste.
[21:30] <k1l> adamcunnington: you can stop ranting in here about that. adress that to the gnome guys
[21:30] <bluezone> they need pip3 afaik
[21:30] <Blescither> is there a way to authenticate from ubuntu login screen to an active directory server?
[21:30] <adamcunnington> sudormrf: ah perfect, thank you!
[21:30] <sudormrf> adamcunnington, np.
[21:30] <ikonia> although people should not need pip
[21:30] <ikonia> bluezone: python3-setuptools I think
[21:30] <k1l> adamcunnington: just tested: rightclick on the "file path button" in nautilus and select "copy"
[21:30] <adamcunnington> daftykins: what the hell are you on about, what a ridiculously myopic statement to make
[21:30] <ikonia> it should be packaged up via distribution packages
[21:30] <k1l> adamcunnington: that copys the filepath to clipboard
[21:31] <adamcunnington> k1l: thanks, that's very helpful too
[21:31] <daftykins> adamcunnington: i fail to see why.
[21:31] <ferbombo> hi
[21:31] <sl33k_> k1l: good tip. I used to find myself lost on how to close commands. basics of vi are needed supposedly
[21:31] <Tin_man> i've got Ubuntu 14.04, on 2 different computers.  i installed it on my wifes computer, has Windows vista, as a dual boot, but this is like watching snails go backwards, (Dell 4600, 3 gig memory, Intell graphics.)  ?????
[21:31] <sl33k_> assuming man opens up vi editor docs
[21:31] <arooni-mobile__> hey folks ; recently upgraded to ubutnu 14.04; but now i can't hear audio when i'm making a call.  i think the microphone isnt working what can i do now?
[21:31] <k1l> adamcunnington: and i request you to drop that attitude. we are volunteers who try to help. your attitude does not suit in here.
[21:32] <adamcunnington> daftykins: i'll break down some of the false assumptions you've made. 1 is that not knowing where every single file on your file system that you may ever need to access off hand. 2 is assuming that even if you did, it would somehow be quicker, less error prone or more convenient than being able to copy a file's location
[21:32] <adamcunnington> daftykins: there are probably other dafty assumptions but i'm apalled enough at those 2!
[21:32] <Beldar> oh geez a god complex, lol
[21:32] <daftykins> adamcunnington: but you'd be in the CLI for anything serious you didn't know about off hand...
[21:32] <adamcunnington> k1l: my apologies, i realise that but i'm not sure the personal attack from daftykins was particularly great either
[21:32] <daftykins> Beldar: we can't save them all i guess :(
[21:32] <Beldar> hehe
[21:32] <k1l> daftykins: let it go
[21:33] <adamcunnington> daftykins: and cd'ing + ls'ing 5 times is preferable to being able to copy a file's path that you have in front of you?
[21:33] <daftykins> adamcunnington: i said no offence in it because i didn't mean it as a personal attack at all. i'm sorry that you feel that way
[21:33] <daftykins> crikey, can't have an opinion on freenode D:
[21:33] <daftykins> anyway, back on topic.
[21:34] <adamcunnington> daftykins: that's not how human interaction / language works. You don't get to insert the word "no offence" before an offence to somehow nullify it
[21:34] <adamcunnington> but sure, i'll agree with you on that one - back on topic.
[21:35] <sudormrf> wee
[21:35]  * sudormrf spins in a circle
[21:35] <ikonia> please stop with the pointless comments
[21:36] <Player> Does anyone know if running a VNC server at a higher resolution will use more resources?  (i.e. 1680x1050 vs. 1024x768)
[21:36] <bluezone> probably
[21:37] <bluezone> but it would be a marginal difference  i would think
[21:37] <compdoc> bluezone, doesnt seem to
[21:37] <arthurfiggis> bluezone: i'd say you're right...unless the screen resolution was massive anyway :)
[21:38] <rohan> k1l: dude that was harsh -- adamcunnington didn't deserve that
[21:38] <Player> ah ok thanks
[21:38] <Player> I'll use higher res then, no reason to squint haha.
[21:38] <bluezone> born to k1l ! ^_^
[21:39]  * bluezone just j/k ^_^
[21:39] <arthurfiggis> Player: might as well :) i used to run things with smaller font sizes, but now that i actually need glasses i tend to increase it until it's comfortable
[21:39] <ikonia> not quite getting the "please stop with the pointless comments" request
[21:39] <CornishPasty> rohan: Don't argue with the dictators!
[21:39] <Player> arthurfiggis, luckily my vision's 20/20 but that's subject to change, and I also like it when things are big.  I have my IRC font at 14 bold.
[21:40] <Blescither> is there a way to authenticate from ubuntu login screen to an active directory server?
[21:40] <Tin_man> guess i'm on the wrong channel... :-) thanks
[21:40] <rohan> ikonia: this feels more like kids being forced to play in a playground with mommies around to dictate every single thing -- why can't we just let people be? it's not as if he was doing something very wrong
[21:40] <rohan> and the other guy was definitely a jerk, too
[21:41] <_Trullo> lol, 14 bold :)
[21:41] <ikonia> rohan: if you want to talk to the operator team about it, join #ubuntu-ops
[21:42] <Corn1shPasty> Wow, was that really necessary?
[21:44] <Tin_man> ok, i'll ask the same question, if you install Ubuntu along side windows, does it have a snail problem?
[21:44] <Ben64> Tin_man: snail problem?
[21:44] <OerHeks> Tin_man, what is a snail problem?
[21:45] <Tin_man> slow as sin..
[21:45] <sudormrf> Tin_man, shouldn't have any connection there
[21:45] <sudormrf> Tin_man, if the system is slow to begin with it will still be slow.  may be faster with ubuntu as it would likely use less resources than windows.
[21:45] <Tin_man> i've it on 2 different computer (full install full harddrive)
[21:45] <Tin_man> no problem
[21:47] <Tin_man> later all..
[21:49] <euxneks> Blescither, you asked how to auth to your Active Directory server from ubuntu? I'm fairly certain there should be LDAP authentication using the SSSD to an active directory server. Let me see if I can find a link for you
[21:49] <aarobc> ubuntu has issues with ffmpeg
[21:49] <euxneks> Blescither, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Enterprise/Authentication/sssd
[21:51] <skinux> This is dumb...I've removed software and Ubuntu keeps saying I'm low on disk space.
[21:51] <euxneks> skinux, there is a tool called  Disk Usage Analyzer
[21:51] <daftykins> skinux: "df -h" show a full partition?
[21:51] <euxneks> skinux, it shows you graphically what is taking up space on your HDD
[21:52] <euxneks> skinux, takes a while to go through your system though
[21:52] <euxneks> skinux, Disk Usage Analyzer should be located under 'System Tools'
[21:53] <sudormrf> daftykins, isn't there another tool that starts with nc?
[21:53] <Blescither> euxneks: thanks. so all i need to do is edit /etc/sssd/sssd.conf and insert the pertinent information such as the ad server?
[21:53] <sudormrf> daftykins, I forgot what it is called
[21:53] <sudormrf> ncmp
[21:53] <sudormrf> ?
[21:53] <daftykins> i'm not sure that that does what i'm after there
[21:54] <euxneks> Blescither, yes, you might have to enable something on the AD server side though, as well
[21:54] <euxneks> Blescither, the last time I had to play around with SSSD was a couple of years ago, but it should be pretty similar now
[21:55] <sudormrf> daftykins, ncdu
[21:56] <daftykins> sudormrf: yeah, don't think that'll just tell you at a glance instantaneously that a partition is full though.
[21:57] <sudormrf> daftykins, it outputs similar info as disk utility.  can help to figure out what specific directory is using most of the space and and what not.  but if he/she is using a GUI disk utility is solid :D
[21:57] <loove> IS THERE A WAY TO READ THE CONTENTS OF AN IP:PORT in command line?
[21:57] <loove> sorry caps
[21:57] <loove> like HTTP REQUEST
[21:57] <daftykins> loove: a banner grab?
[21:58] <daftykins> as in, open a connection to a socket and read the message?
[21:58] <master> hollo
[21:58] <master> i have a small problem with an ntfs disk
[21:59] <sudormrf> loove, nmap?
[21:59] <loove> curl <IP_ADDRESS>:8333 will WORK?
[21:59] <sudormrf> netcat?
[21:59] <master> files i copy in ubuntu not there in w7
[21:59] <Julinux> Please people
[21:59] <master> hibernate is off
[21:59] <Julinux> I need help
[21:59] <euxneks> loove, telnet
[21:59] <_2_Natalie> hi
[21:59] <sudormrf> Julinux, what's going on?
[21:59] <unstable> What software can I use to remote desktop onto a windows server?
[21:59] <Julinux> I have the following scenario, a laptop with Ubuntu 4.14 with KVM Virtualizing another ubuntu 14:04 server, however I am unable to make a bridge for communication of two already set the configuration parameters in / etc / network / interfaces but I can not communication
[21:59] <loove> euxneks: telnet in Ubuntu?
[21:59] <sudormrf> unstable, remmina
[22:00] <halphalp> ikonia: won't you tell me how long?
[22:00] <daftykins> Julinux: #ubuntu-server
[22:00] <euxneks> loove, yes it should be there
[22:00] <BlackDalek> Does everyone's onscreen play/pause/>>/<< icons in Totem player now fill the whole screen?
[22:00] <_2_Natalie> do u guys like soccer?
[22:00] <halphalp> Screw this channel, it's run by egotists
[22:00] <sudormrf> halphalp, that is no way to get help.  what is going on, friend?
[22:00] <euxneks> hahaha wow
[22:00] <loove> euxneks: well its not
[22:00] <_2_Natalie> do u guys like soccer?
[22:00] <daftykins> looks like a troll night, i'm out.
[22:00] <master> ok can you direct me to a channel that could sort my ntfs MTF problem?
[22:00] <euxneks> loove, oh sorry, let me find out where that is
[22:01] <sudormrf> daftykins, how about OT? :D
[22:01] <loove> _2_Natalie: sometimes
[22:01] <sudormrf> loove, you can use nmap, netcat or telnet to do these things.  telnet should be built in to the CLI.
[22:01] <_2_Natalie> how old are u
[22:01] <_2_Natalie> can u guys join my soccer group......please
[22:01] <k1l> !ot | _2_Natalie
[22:01] <_2_Natalie> :(
[22:02] <_2_Natalie> oh I'm sorry
[22:02] <master> can you see my msgs?
[22:02] <euxneks> loove, sudo apt-get install telnet should work I think
[22:02] <master> or am i talking alone
[22:02] <k1l> master: yes, just ask
[22:02] <master> ?
[22:02] <master> i did
[22:02] <Julinux> daftykins, My problem is not ubuntu server
[22:03] <Julinux> daftykins, Is desktop
[22:03] <Julinux> ¬¬
[22:03] <master> and was completely ignored
[22:03] <daftykins> Julinux: but it's more relevant to server tech.
[22:03] <Julinux> daftykins, Not
[22:03] <Julinux> daftykins, Is desktop
[22:03] <master> i need a ntfs MFT debug
[22:03] <bri> Hi room. Got myself into a bit of a partitions/boot situation and was hoping I could get some advice.
[22:03] <sudormrf> bri, !ask
[22:03] <k1l> master: just ask again in not to close time periods. maybe just no one at this time knows the right answer
[22:03] <daftykins> Julinux: right... you are welcome to either try the advice by asking in another channel or you can wait here stubbornly.
[22:04] <Julinux> daftykins, The problem is lack of communication from one desktop to the host machine and not the server
[22:04] <sudormrf> Julinux, these are two VMs?
[22:04] <master> ok can i get a direct vers a channel that speaks ntfs :)
[22:05] <master> not #ntfs = dead
[22:05] <Julinux> daftykins, Not
[22:05] <Julinux> daftykins, Ubuntu Desktop >> KVM >> Ubuntu Server
[22:05] <daftykins> Julinux: please stop highlighting me now
[22:05] <loove> HOW can I SSH tunnel in my GOOGLE CHrome to my Ubuntu machine
[22:05] <loove> are there settings I can use?
[22:05] <Julinux> daftykins, why?
[22:07] <bri> Ok so: I had a standard 2 partition (system, swap) 10.04 setup. Wanted to try another system, so I shrank system partition & moved it, made a second. Tried to reboot, now I can't login.
[22:08] <sudormrf> loove, that may be out of scope for this channel.  if you have openssh-server installed on your ubuntu machine that is what you need to do on your Ubuntu side of things.
[22:08] <quadHelix> Must I do anything to have cron jobs run?  I edited my cron via `crontab -e` and added 1 * * * * ls /var/www > /home/user/txt.  /home/user/txt does not have any info.
[22:09] <loove> why is the mac book terminal so much powerful than the ubuntu one, and ubuntu does not copy it?
[22:09] <bri> Additionally, the login screen is weird defaulty-looking scheme, not what it was before, and gives a Power Management error. Gparted shows free space on the partition, but "properties" for it shows 100% full.
[22:09] <loove> WHY?
[22:09] <loove> is it so hard to extend support for coppying/pasting selecting etc
[22:09] <sudormrf> quadHelix, cron runs in a pretty terse environment.  you may need to be more explicit with your command
[22:09] <loove> its 2014... HELLO?
[22:09] <sudormrf> loove, have all of your issues with ubuntu been resolved?
[22:10] <BlackDalek> Can anyone else replicate this bug? Open a video in Totem, in a window. Video can be paused/play/skip forward/back and NO icon overlay appears. Goto to full screen mode - still no overlay icon for play/pause etc. Now return to window mode. An overlay icon taking up half the window appears during play/pause.  The size of the icon is the size of the de
[22:10] <BlackDalek> pth of the window in windowed mode OR if you go to full screen BEFORE the overlay icon fades from the window, it will expand to take up the entire screen in full screen mode.
[22:10] <quadHelix> sudormrf (hehe like the name)  an LS command should run tho since it is internal?
[22:10] <mitsu`> hello :) Is there a way to install php without suhosin? i've been tryin to use 'apt' but the repository includes php5-suhosin
[22:10] <sudormrf> quadHelix, one would think.  try this "/bin/ls /var/www > /home/user/txt
[22:11] <sudormrf> quadHelix, see if that works
[22:11] <quadHelix> will do ty sudormrf
[22:11] <ikonia> mitsu`: you need super user privileges to install it from the pakcage manager
[22:11] <sudormrf> quadHelix, if that works your environment variables may need adjustment.  I personally have had strange issues with cron.
[22:11] <mitsu`> i have 'sudo' privileges
[22:12] <ikonia> mitsu`: then you just need to install php from the package maanger
[22:12] <bri> Google-fu turned up stuff related to Windows, but I haven't used that here; used live CD to restore grub, that didn't help; possibly partition table issue, but really don't want to wipe all data to make a new one..
[22:12] <mitsu`> ikonia: i do, but it automatically includes php5-suhosin which i don't want
[22:12] <sudormrf> mitsu`, http://askubuntu.com/questions/270687/php-repository-without-suhosin
[22:12] <ikonia> mitsu`: why ?
[22:12] <ikonia> mitsu`: what's the name of the package you are actually installing
[22:13] <mitsu`> ikonia: php5
[22:13] <ikonia> mitsu`: so those packages are either dependencies or recommended additoinal packages
[22:13] <ikonia> mitsu`: you could either remove the package you don't want post install, if it's not a dependency, or just "not use it" once it's installed
[22:13] <mitsu`> ikonia: they are recommended packages
[22:14] <ikonia> mitsu`: is there a reason you don't want it actually installed ?
[22:14] <ikonia> is it causing a problem / risk ?
[22:14] <mitsu`> it's causing a problem with a script i'm trying to run
[22:14] <loove> da
[22:14] <sudormrf> mitsu`, can you modify your script?
[22:14] <dw1> bri: how did you try to restore grub? chroot?
[22:14] <unstable> sudormrf: thanks for the tip, that's exactly what I want.
[22:14] <ikonia> mitsu`: so you need to do the install without recommendations, only using dependencies
[22:15] <imthenachoman> hey guys. need some help. i had ubuntu 13.04 (i think) on my machine before. i installed xubuntu 14.04 and it installed fine but i'm having intermitant freezing. i don't know what is going on. like the freezing even kills my downloads (through FF or wget). i know i said xubuntu but i thought maybe there are some core ubuntu things i can check?
[22:15] <ikonia> mitsu`: I'm not sure if that's possible through the gui, but there is a flag in apt-get
[22:15] <sudormrf> unstable, not sure what tip, but glad to hear it :).
[22:15] <mitsu`> sudormrf: i have tried, but nothing is working. i asked the author of the script, he said that suhosin blocks the script
[22:15] <mitsu`> ikonia: what flag would i use to stop it from installing php5-suhosin?
[22:15] <bri> dwl yes, mounted various paths, chroot, installed grub, etc. No errors but didn't help either.
[22:16] <ikonia> mitsu`: I think it's --no-recommends
[22:16] <ikonia> ahh --no-install-recommends
[22:16] <ikonia> just found it
[22:16] <mitsu`> ikonia: ok, i will give it a shot thanks :)
[22:17] <dw1> bri: so your ubuntu root changed partition id ?
[22:17] <dw1> bri: sda2 or 3 instead of sda1 ?
[22:18] <bri> dwl No, it remained sda1, but I did shrink it and move it to the right, and added sda3 before it where sda1 used to reside. (sda2 is swap)
[22:19] <rick_swe> hi. can anyone give me some tip about video card drivers?
[22:19] <sudormrf> rick_swe, I am sure we can give it a shot
[22:19] <^v> how do i switch from the crappy GNOME 3 to MATE?
[22:20] <sudormrf> ^v, have you installed MATE?
[22:20] <^v> previous versions there was a button
[22:20] <bri> dwl the Internet seems to suggest that gparted should have warned me about moving the start point of a system partition, but it didn't.. so I thought that might be the issue.. but it *does* boot, just refuses to login..
[22:20] <^v> in the login screen
[22:21] <dw1> bri: oh it boots, so why install grub?
[22:22] <dw1> bri: refuses to login... what happens?
[22:22] <^v> sudormrf, i cant find it in the software center
[22:22] <dw1> bri: anything in the logs?
[22:23] <sudormrf> ^v, I have no experience installing it myself, but http://www.itworld.com/software/412022/install-mate-18-desktop-ubuntu-1404
[22:24] <bri> dwl (re: grub.. poor google-fu, brainless, etc) When I try to login, it basically just refreshes the screen. With an error notification about "power management, contact admin"
[22:24] <dw1> bri: the defaulty-scheme may be because of the disk space thing
[22:24] <dw1> bri: other things too
[22:25] <rick_swe> i cannot find any good drivers for my video card. any tip? i got sapphire HD 7790
[22:25] <bri> dwl Yeah it seems like the issue is there, from what I've read, but all the posted solutions don't seem to apply..
[22:25] <master> hollo again
[22:25] <sudormrf> rick_swe, that is a tough one.  have you tried this: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/auto-detect-tool
[22:26] <master> whats a good partition type to swap files betwin win and ubuntu?
[22:26] <rick_swe> hmm no i havent. i will check it out.
[22:26] <sudormrf> rick_swe, GL.  let us know how it goes.
[22:26] <k1l_> master: ntfs is fine
[22:26] <bri> dwl So I'm trying to figure out what would cause a partition to think it's full when it isn't, most likely caused by the use of gparted..
[22:26] <master> not for me
[22:26] <k1l_> master: why?
[22:26] <master> not working after i go back to win
[22:27] <master> files not there and MFT scrambled
[22:27] <k1l_> master: hmm. any errors on ubuntu with that ntfs partition?
[22:28] <master> no
[22:28] <rick_swe> give me a minute :) and i let you guys know
[22:28] <master> in ubuntu all is fine
[22:28] <master> iven if i restart
[22:28] <master> even*
[22:28] <k1l_> master: does win give any errors?
[22:29] <dw1> bri: "ext3/4 reserve around 5% of the disk space for user root only, to allow Linux to boot even when users use up all their disk space."
[22:29] <master> no
[22:29] <jost> Hi! I'm setting up a 12.04 server right now, and would like to install and activate apparmor. I've installed the package "apparmor", but `aa-status` returns "apparmor module is not loaded" (even after a reboot). Do I need to add a boot option or something?
[22:29] <dw1> bri: did you shrink it too much? :/
[22:29] <k1l_> master: that setup should work.
[22:29] <euxneks> master, maybe the name of the file is not recognized by windows as a valid name?
[22:29] <master> just when i go in window files are missing and folders are inaccessible
[22:30] <master> its a copy from another ntfs
[22:30] <rick_swe> i checked sapphires website and i couldnt find the drivers there. but actually i found it on amds site :) hope it works! thanks for the help!
[22:30] <quadHelix> sudormrf still nothing from cron.  it is ok, the live server is working, I just wanted to test some stuff before I pushed.
[22:30] <master> its a backup
[22:30] <euxneks> master, when you create a file on the NTFS partition from CLI, are there any errors?
[22:30] <master> so no filename problem
[22:30] <bri> bri ARGH 5%! 2gb is exactly 5% of the drive.. which gparted shows as unused, but nautilus shows as used. That must be it.
[22:31] <master> in ubuntu?
[22:31] <master> ill try
[22:31] <dw1> bri: :)
[22:31] <euxneks> master, yes, that's where the copy issue is occuring right?
[22:31] <sudormrf> quadHelix, that stinks.  what are you trying to do with cron?
[22:31] <quadHelix> cakephp application.
[22:32] <quadHelix> well, cron will be an aid for the cakephp application
[22:32] <bri> dwl So I do have to redo the partitions and allow it more space.. and hopefully won't get the same error. Didn't want to go there for fear of making it worse but seems the right thing to do next. Thanks so much dwl :)
[22:32] <dw1> bri: g/l
[22:32] <euxneks> master, also try the "cp" command with "-v", ala "cp -v <somefile> <ntfsdir>
[22:32] <master> in progress
[22:33] <sudormrf> quadHelix, I am not familiar with cakephp.  what precisely are you trying to have cron do?
[22:34] <master> no isues
[22:34] <master> cp went ok
[22:34] <master> cp -v that is
[22:34] <euxneks> master: you were able to copy to the NTFS partition?
[22:34] <quadHelix> I am making a web app that communicates to two different databases.  The old junky one that was here when I started working, and the new nifty one that I replaced it with.  The cron syncs the 2 apps databases'
[22:34] <master> yes
[22:34] <euxneks> master: when you list the directory contents can you see that file in there?
[22:34] <master> yes
[22:35] <euxneks> can you see it from windows now or will that require a reboot?
[22:35] <quadHelix> the script works from the command line, so it will work on the live server.  I was just hoping to get cron running to emulate the live environmenet
[22:35] <quadHelix> environment too
[22:35] <sudormrf> quadHelix, ah.  ok.  so how are you trying to call the script with cron?
[22:35] <master> strange thing is i can do it again and is not asking for overwrite
[22:35] <bri> While I'm here, quick follow-up question - if I'm going to be dual booting Ubuntu and Mint, should both partitions be flagged "boot" or just one?
[22:36] <quadHelix> sudo /path/to/cake/app/ && Console/cake Myscript myfunction
[22:36] <euxneks> master: does "mount" indicate that the directory you are copying into is the actual mounted drive as well?
[22:36] <quadHelix> sudormrf: http://book.cakephp.org/2.0/en/console-and-shells/cron-jobs.html
[22:36] <sudormrf> quadHelix, let me have a look.  sec.
[22:36] <alesan> hey
[22:36] <jakey2> hi is there a channel to discuss setting up a pbx or voip server?
[22:36] <alesan> today Ubuntu installed some update and it ruined my firefox
[22:37] <alesan> how can I put the tabs BELOW the URL bar?
[22:37] <master> euxneks: i mounted manually and yes is the actual drive
[22:37] <ikonia> alesan: need a plugin
[22:37] <euxneks> master: just checking :)
[22:37] <alesan> ikonia, I just want the tabs below the URL
[22:37] <ikonia> alesan: yes, I read that, you need a plugin
[22:37] <euxneks> jakey2, try #asterisk
[22:38] <jakey2> thanks
[22:38] <master> euxneks: np is weird is windows that makes a mess but hibernation is not active
[22:38] <euxneks> jakey2, they might not be the right channel but they are telephone guys
[22:38] <mitsu`> ikonia: it still installed suhosin patch
[22:38] <sudormrf> quadHelix, could you give me the name of your script (or some generic name if you prefer)
[22:38] <mitsu`> This server is protected with the Suhosin Patch <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:38] <dw1> bri: found this: "grub doesn't care about whether or not a partition has the boot-flag set. The dos-loader does - it checks the four primary partitions and makes sure that only one is 'active', then it transfers control to that partition. When you install grub on the /dev/sda mbr (ie grub will boot both windows and linux), then you dont need any active partitions at all!"
[22:38] <ikonia> mitsu`: really, are you %100 sure it's not a dependency and just a recommendatin
[22:38] <quadHelix> name = Cmsupload function = querystatus
[22:38] <ikonia> mitsu`: ahh, it's a patch not a package ?
[22:39] <mitsu`> ikonia: but it didn't install php5-suhosin
[22:39] <jakey2> euxneks: thanks
[22:39] <ikonia> !info php5-suhosin
[22:40] <ikonia> mitsu`: there doens't look to be a php5-suhosin package
[22:40] <ikonia> mitsu`: are you sure it's a pakcage and not a patch ?
[22:41] <mitsu`> Recommended packages:
[22:41] <mitsu`> php5-cli php5-suhosin
[22:41] <mitsu`> that's what it gives me
[22:41] <mitsu`> but it didn't install php5-suhosin
[22:41] <sudormrf> quadHelix, it looks pretty straightforward, have you checked your $PATH?
[22:42] <quadHelix> sudormrf yes :)  as i said, it works on live server with same commands.  It is my dev box here that does not want to run cron (12.04LTS)
[22:42] <ikonia> mitsu`: could you do "apt-cache policy php5-suhosin" and pastebin the output please
[22:43] <sudormrf> quadHelix, ah, I must have missed that, so the cron job works in production but not on the dev box.  production is what version of ubuntu?
[22:43] <Yelu> alesan, https://services.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/discovery/addon/fdgueux-tabs-on-bottom/
[22:43] <quadHelix> production is actually RHEL
[22:43] <bri> dwl huh, okay. sounds good. :)
[22:43] <quadHelix> sudormrf production is redhat
[22:44] <mitsu`> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/1KYQvdC7
[22:44] <ikonia> mitsu`: you're using debian
[22:44] <ikonia> mitsu`: not ubuntu
[22:45] <mitsu`> i was told debian is the same ... was i miss informed?
[22:45] <sudormrf> quadHelix, could be something different with the cron environment on RHEL.  Not too familiar with RHEL.
[22:45] <ikonia> mitsu`: debian is not the same
[22:45] <sudormrf> mitsu`, they are different.
[22:45] <sudormrf> mitsu`, check out #debian
[22:45] <mitsu`> gotcha
[22:45] <quadHelix> sudormrf, agreed.  Thanks for your time!
[22:45] <ikonia> mitsu`: take it to #debian channel, and explain you are trying ot use squeeze repos and explain your problem
[22:46] <sudormrf> quadHelix, good luck :).
[22:46] <mitsu`> ikonia: thank you
[22:48] <alesan> thank's Yelu
[22:49] <euxneks> master, sorry my client buggered up
[22:50] <worldview> on my desk top I have ubuntu 12.10  I have multiple consoles and window open and would like to switch between them useing the keboard instead of haveing to grab the mount constantly do I use a script or is there a key combo already there if no key combo then could I get an outline for a script
[22:50] <Yelu> alesan, one step further (if you want to) => https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=Classic+Theme+Restorer+&appver=29.0&platform=linux
[22:50] <glisignoli> hello. where would i find info about fixing a broken package? it just needs an extra compile option.
[22:51] <dw1> worldview: alt-tab
[22:52] <k1l_> worldview: 12.10 is way out of date
[22:52] <dw1> that too
[22:52] <worldview> dwl: has anything changed all that much in newer versions
[22:52] <dw1> worldview: yeah, newer versions are more likely to be officially supported :)
[22:53] <dw1> worldview: get security updates, etc
[22:53] <alesan> Yelu, if I install the "Classic Theme Restorer" plugin, should I uninstall the one you told me before?
[22:53] <worldview> but phisicaly they the same
[22:53] <worldview> basically
[22:53] <binarydragon> Hello Ubuntu, I want the recommended requirements for 14.04.
[22:53] <dw1> worldview: basically, but no more updates, which are pretty important, and you will get people declining to help you here
[22:53] <sudormrf> binarydragon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:54] <worldview> I see
[22:54] <worldview> thanks
[22:54] <dw1> worldview: youll have to do a bunch of updates to get to 14.04 which will be supported for 5 years
[22:54] <k1l_> worldview: yes, the shortcuts and /or the handling changed
[22:54] <Yelu> alesan, yes, I would.
[22:54] <worldview> why
[22:55] <k1l_> worldview: besides you dont even have a security fix for the heartbleed issue :/
[22:55] <euxneks> k1l_, honestly that's probably old enough to not be affected
[22:55] <dw1> worldview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[22:56] <worldview> what is the heart bleed issue and why should I care
[22:56] <alesan> Yelu, I did, and I installed the classic theme restorer
[22:56] <k1l_> oh wait. 12.10 did have that  but not the next ssl security issue after that
[22:56] <alesan> but now the tabs are on top
[22:56] <dw1> worldview: oh you have 1 more day of support left :D
[22:56] <Yelu> alesan, there is an option to get it back into place.
[22:57] <invitado_web> hola
[22:57] <worldview> kll: why should should I care abouth the heart bleed isue
[22:57] <invitado_web> necesito ayuda con lubuntu y una placa broadcom
[22:59] <alesan> OK Yelu
[22:59] <k1l_> worldview: because no secure connection is secure with that bug. if you login over https into a website that is not secure. to have that security patches support from ubuntu is the reason you want to use a ubuntu version that is supported.
[22:59] <zykotick9> !es | invitado_web
[22:59] <jost> How can I find out with which options my machine was actually booted?
[22:59] <k1l_> worldview: if you dont want to switch every 6 month stick to the LTS releases like 14.04 is. they get 5 years support
[23:00] <invitado_web> gracias ubottu
[23:00] <zykotick9> jost: kernel you mean?  "cat /proc/cmdline"
[23:00] <worldview> kll why is there a bug in the first place
[23:00] <jost> zykotick9: thanks
[23:00] <zykotick9> worldview: mistakes happen
[23:01] <xangua> worldview: because software is writeen by humans and humans are not perfect
[23:01] <worldview> should I return to microsoft then
[23:01] <zykotick9> 'cause MS NEVER makes mistakes <- LOL
[23:01] <dw1> worldview: wont you just ignore their security updates just the same? :)
[23:02] <dw1> worldview: just upgrade to a supported version then you get updates
[23:02] <k1l_> worldview: that openssl bug is not related to ubuntu. its a worldwide bug since nearly everywhere is openssl included.
[23:02] <worldview> probably I gues I just dont see the revelece for a pc my pc mainly
[23:02] <k1l_> worldview: its more likely that microsoft will not tell you that it has security issues while there are serious bugs well known.
[23:03] <zykotick9> k1l_: strange situation where, those with older version where secure ;)
[23:03] <dw1> worldview: well one relevence is people here wont help you with any problems if youre on an unsupported version
[23:03] <k1l_> worldview: if you dont want a 12year old to hack your system because its that easy, you want to have a ubuntu version that still gets the bugfixes
[23:04] <sudormrf> worldview, j/w, why don't you want to update?
[23:04] <k1l_> zykotick9: some call it a feature ;p
[23:04] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; recently upgraded to ubutnu 14.04; but now i can't hear audio when i'm making a call.  i think the microphone isnt working what can i do now?
[23:04] <zykotick9> k1l_: that's ONE feature i could do without ;)
[23:04] <k1l_> arooni-mobile: make sure its not muted
[23:04] <dw1> arooni-mobile: install and run pavucontrol.  could be some minor adjustment needed
[23:05] <popey> worldview: they're talking about one specific bug, there are many such bugs. It's sensible, prudent advice to use a well supported (in terms of security updates) operating system, whatever one you choose.
[23:05] <worldview> sudo its a pain and with the update I have to create new images  because I no longer have a pritien file system to setup
[23:05] <sudormrf> worldview, why do you have to create new images? updating doesn't delete anything?
[23:06] <dw1> worldview: load Software Updater and in the Options do "notify of new releases"
[23:06] <dw1> worldview: you dont need to burn an image
[23:06] <arooni-mobile> k1l_, dw1 ok i openede pavucontrol;;  but what do i do now
[23:06] <master> ok is there a tool to check fro bad sectors on an unpartitioned  disk?
[23:06] <dw1> arooni-mobile: try to get the input level thingy to move :)
[23:06] <popey> master: badblocks?
[23:06] <sudormrf> master, fsck
[23:06] <worldview> I test software and am constanly eraseing my hard drive  and it is a pain to have to download fixes all the time
[23:07] <arooni-mobile> dw1, ok its movinvg
[23:07] <larrypg> cough, cough...not sure but it seems that a very subtle troll is happening
[23:07] <sudormrf> worldview, so store the files on a network share?
[23:07] <worldview> why cant anyone get it straite the first time
[23:07] <sudormrf> larrypg, insert futurama picture here.
[23:07] <popey> larrypg: +!
[23:07] <popey> -shift
[23:07] <sudormrf> larrypg, yeah, this is a troll.
[23:07] <worldview> sudo or on anothe removable drive yes
[23:07] <dw1> arooni-mobile: wait you cant hear audio... thats usually speakers not mic :)
[23:08] <sudormrf> worldview, sure, why not.
[23:08] <worldview> still a pain when reinstalling
[23:08] <popey> I haven't re-installed for 2.5 years now.
[23:08] <sudormrf> well stop reinstalling?
[23:08] <arooni-mobile> dw1, yes speakers work fine;  microphone doesnt seem to work
[23:08] <popey> I have owned this laptop for 2.5 years.
[23:08] <popey> correlation
[23:08] <sudormrf> I distro hop a lot, but I have never had to reinstall an OS.
[23:08] <worldview> stop createing bugs
[23:08] <worldview> and fixes
[23:08] <popey> Each to their own.
[23:08] <popey> worldview: stop finding them.
[23:09] <sudormrf> popey, haha
[23:09] <dw1> arooni-mobile: what program, skype?
[23:09] <worldview> do it right the first time
[23:09] <popey> I agree. Be perfect.
[23:09] <sudormrf> worldview, do you have an issue that we can address here?  if not, please take this somewhere else.
[23:09] <arooni-mobile> dw1, ye and google voice doesnt work
[23:09] <dw1> worldview: that has never happened with any software sadly
[23:09] <popey> We're moving away from support to general discussion, which takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:10] <worldview> ok sorry to have bothered u
[23:11] <zykotick9> typing y and o is SO hard...
[23:11] <sudormrf> zykotick9, must be a bug.  STOP CREATING BUGS! :P
[23:11] <popey> You guys!
[23:12] <zykotick9> sudormrf: ;)
[23:13] <dw1> arooni-mobile: this and the comments might help http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[23:14] <arooni-mobile> dw1, ok got sound working i think
[23:17] <Dave-Maydew> I've got an issue with blurry text running Nvidia
[23:19] <Dave-Maydew> Any idea's what can be causing it?
[23:19] <cyborgcygnus> So some interesting info for you all. I've been trying to run this start.exe file from a training DVD with Wine & it kept bringing up a blank screen where the interactive menu for the dvd should be. I opened the start.exe with thunar & it somehow just ran.
[23:22] <larrypg> Dave-Maydew, just curious are you running at the monitors native resolution?
[23:23] <Dave-Maydew> Yes, both native res
[23:24] <Dave-Maydew> it's only since the last update
[23:24] <Dave-Maydew> before that all was fine
[23:27] <Dave-Maydew> I
[23:27] <larrypg> Dave-Maydew, just asking a couple more questions - is this a laptop?
[23:27] <Dave-Maydew> No desktop
[23:27] <larrypg> Dave-Maydew, scratch the next question:)
[23:28] <Dave-Maydew> I'm sight impaired, and thought it was me, till I got my Dad to confirm the issue
[23:30] <master> what would your estimate be of how long it will take badblocks to check a 4TB disk
[23:31] <master> 0.5% in 126 s
[23:31] <Dave-Maydew> so 0.5% in 2mins
[23:32] <Dave-Maydew> 1% in 4
[23:32] <Dave-Maydew> 2 in 8
[23:32] <Dave-Maydew> OMG hours
[23:32] <master> 7 hours
[23:32] <Dave-Maydew> Yup
[23:32] <master> if is constant
[23:32] <Dave-Maydew> that's true
[23:32] <master> thats fast for a 4TB
[23:33] <master> i got 1% at 4:12
[23:33] <Dave-Maydew> it's 00:32 now
[23:34] <Dave-Maydew> now make that 00:34
[23:34] <larrypg> days
[23:34] <Dave-Maydew> ah, keep forgetting others are around the globe lol
[23:35] <xX99oddXx> Hey does anyone know how to fix this error?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7470453/
[23:36] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: that doesn't look like an error to me?
[23:37] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: sorry, i didn't scroll right enough...
[23:37] <zykotick9> paste.ubuntu.com FAIL
[23:37] <xX99oddXx> ik
[23:37] <xX99oddXx> having issues cant connect to my server via ssh atm
[23:37] <xX99oddXx> lol
[23:38] <xX99oddXx> the copying is terrible in this console thing
[23:39] <master> kk gn and gl and bbbbyyyyyyyeeee
[23:39] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: that 17 not upgraded scares me a bit.  consider running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try again?
[23:39] <evset> ping
[23:39] <zykotick9> evset: pong
[23:44] <bommbo> lol, guys... this is BSD ot GNU/Linux? >> http://www.archbsd.net
[23:46] <zykotick9> bommbo: ? it's not ubuntu that's for sure... try ##linux perhaps?
[23:50] <xX99oddXx> zykotick9: it has the same error
[23:51] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: :(  i have NO idea then, is "apt-cache policy openssh-server" saying it's coming from ubuntu?
[23:53] <xX99oddXx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7470518/
[23:54] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: ah, that show SSH server already installed?
[23:54] <xX99oddXx> That was after I apt-get install openssh-server it returned the error
[23:56] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: fyi, you might want to try pastebinit (which has an option to paste to paste.ubuntu.com), maybe it'll present better then what you're doing now?
[23:56] <xX99oddXx> k
[23:57] <zykotick9> xX99oddXx: but good luck, i have no idea what's going wrong right now...
[23:57] <xX99oddXx> ok