[15:54] <jamespage> gema: all set?
[15:54] <gema> jamespage: yes
[15:54] <jamespage> +1
[15:54] <gema> jamespage: I don't have anything too formal, but I have the facts together
[15:55] <jamespage> thats good
[15:57] <smartboyhw> Excuse me, what's this meeting?
[15:58] <jamespage> smartboyhw, ubuntu server team meeting
[15:58] <smartboyhw> OK, thanks
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <arosales> hello
[16:01] <smoser> meeting starting in < 60 seconds here... just
[16:02] <jimbaker> hi
[16:02] <jamespage> o/
[16:02] <adam_g> o/
[16:02] <smoser> #startmeeting Ubuntu Server Team Meeting
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[16:03] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting
[16:03] <smoser> #TOPIC Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <smoser> looks like none
[16:03] <smoser> woohoo
[16:03] <smoser> #topic Quantal Development
[16:04] <smoser> arosales, ? Daviey ?
[16:04] <arosales> smoser: may I go over some bps?
[16:04] <smoser> as long as you dont mention my deliquency
[16:04] <smoser> or my spelling.
[16:04] <arosales> we'll see :-)
[16:04] <arosales> so looking @ http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html
[16:05] <arosales> we are just past the half way point of the cycle
[16:05] <arosales> overall for ubuntu server blueprints for this cycle we are at 42%
[16:05] <arosales> so in the red, but not super far behind
[16:06] <arosales> I'd like to hit some of the high/essentials that are in the red to see how we are doing
[16:06] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:06] <arosales> zul: you seem to be making pretty good progress there
[16:07] <arosales> feel ok for beta1?
[16:07] <Daviey> over the moon.
[16:07] <zul> yay!
[16:07] <arosales> :-)
[16:07] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom
[16:08] <arosales> also tracking ok for beta1?
[16:08] <arosales> zul, Daviey ^
[16:08] <zul> yeah looks ok
[16:08] <smartboyhw> arosales: PLease see my PM
[16:08] <arosales> along with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable
[16:09] <zul> that one is not for quantal :)
[16:09] <arosales> zul servercloud-q-openstack-stable isn't?
[16:10] <arosales> jamespage: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review tracking ok ?
[16:10] <jamespage> hmm - OK ish
[16:10] <arosales> jamespage: ok
[16:10] <jamespage> hoping to re-inject some vigour into that one after gema's update today
[16:11] <arosales> also need to follow up on the reports for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review
[16:11] <arosales> Ursinha: ^
[16:11] <arosales> hallyn: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-userns progressing ok?
[16:11] <Ursinha> arosales, I have reports I have to show you all :)
[16:11] <arosales> Ursinha: ah great, thanks :-)
[16:12] <jamespage> \o/
[16:12] <hallyn> arosales: that'll be going into r, but it's in progress right now yes
[16:12] <arosales> Spamaps: m_3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy progressing ok
[16:12] <arosales> hallyn: thanks
[16:12] <m_3> arosales: several juju/charm blueprints need some love... they're pretty outta date
[16:12] <arosales> m_3: ok
[16:13] <arosales> I think andres is out this week
[16:13] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
[16:13] <arosales> so we'll catch HA on openstack next week unless anybody has any input
[16:13] <arosales> and Daviey cloud archive progressing ok
[16:13] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-archive
[16:14] <arosales> smoser: that covers the high and essential bps that are in the red
[16:15] <arosales> half way point in the release :-)
[16:15] <arosales> feature freeze coming up at the end of the month
[16:15] <m_3> don't know why that comes as a surprise every time... but it does :)
[16:16] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[16:16] <arosales> aug 23rd to be exact for the freeze
[16:16] <smoser> right. August 23, which seems earlier than "end of the month"
[16:16] <arosales> semantics
[16:16] <smoser> so anyway. moving on
[16:16] <arosales> :-)
[16:17] <arosales> bugs?
[16:17] <smoser> bugs?
[16:17] <smoser> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html is the "release-bugs" list.
[16:18] <smoser> anyone want to go into more detail there?
[16:18] <smoser> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
[16:18] <jamespage> the report is doing something odd - two of those are closed out
[16:18] <jamespage> smoser: shall I?
[16:18] <smoser> um... sure
[16:19] <Daviey> jamespage: which two?
[16:19] <jamespage> OK; so we have two updates still working through -proposed - one for openvswitch and a NEW package for walinuxagent for azure
[16:19] <jamespage> other that that all other 12.04.1 targets have pushed out to -updates
[16:19] <jamespage> ISO images will start being produced from -update soon (if not already)
[16:20] <jamespage> so expect some requests to help with testing
[16:20] <jamespage> Daviey, cobbler and python-couchdb
[16:20] <adam_g> bug #973741 seems to be stuck in progress, but id hope its targetted to 12.04.1
[16:21] <jamespage> adam_g, hmm - thats not been uploaded to -proposed yet has it...
[16:21] <jamespage> or it has once
[16:22] <adam_g> jamespage: it has once, but theres a second patchset now. not sure if its fallen off the radar, or what
[16:22] <jamespage> adam_g, looks like it; its not in the server packageset so I'd not been keeping an eye on it...
[16:23] <jamespage> adam_g, leave it with me - I'll see what can be done but probably missed 12.04.1 now
[16:23] <adam_g> thanks, jamespage
[16:23] <jamespage> thats me done
[16:23] <jamespage> ...
[16:24] <jamespage> smoser?
[16:24] <Daviey> jamespage / smoser: ubuntu-cloud-keyring needs to be SRU'd to 12.04
[16:25] <Daviey> and an expected change to python-software-properties
[16:25] <jamespage> Daviey, ack; guess that will be post 12.04.1 then....
[16:25] <smoser> Daviey, can you open bugs ?
[16:26] <Daviey> smoser: I have people for that.
[16:26] <smoser> well go find one of them, and ask them to open a bug for you.
[16:26] <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:26] <Daviey> smoser: I just uploaded it to Quantal.. once it's accepted, i'll be able to open a task
[16:26] <arosales> CloudOpen at the end of the month (smoser "real" end of the month) 29-31 August
[16:27] <smoser> Daviey, ah. i was confused by the name.
[16:27] <smoser> as the cloud-images public keys just got into cloud-utils recently.
[16:27] <Daviey> hah
[16:27] <smoser> are community members receiving invittations to UDS-R now?
[16:28] <zul> i havent gotten mine...hmmmm
[16:28] <smoser> utlemming got 4
[16:28] <utlemming> I guess someone wants me to go
[16:28] <smoser> well, if they're not, i would assume that is to happen soon.
[16:28] <smoser> just for anyone reading: Ubuntu Developer Summit - R (Oct 29, 2012 - Nov 1, 2012)
[16:29] <smoser> a day has been cut off.
[16:29] <Daviey> I didn't get an invite.. so i'll stay home
[16:29] <arosales> http://uds.ubuntu.com/ is updated with the info too
[16:29] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:29] <jamespage> gema is standing in for hggdh today to give an update on automated testing stuff...
[16:29] <gema> o/
[16:30] <gema> so I was asked for an update on UTAH and where are things with the test cases migration
[16:30] <gema> we have some functionality already working,
[16:30] <gema> we can install preseeded VMs for ISO testing
[16:31] <gema> and provision HW with cobbler within UTAH
[16:31] <gema> we are having trouble with desktop installs, but working on that this week
[16:31] <gema> we have used the iso server test cases as a starting point to migrate smoke testing
[16:31] <gema> and we have a job already working and running
[16:31] <gema> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/siva-utah-server-test/
[16:32] <gema> I published a result to the external instance, but it has been running for a while
[16:32] <gema> the test code that is being run there is
[16:32] <gema> https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/+junk/server
[16:32] <gema> which is an initial migration of the smoke tests for server to utah
[16:33] <jamespage> gema: so how can people get involved with writing test cases/expanding the existing tests?
[16:33] <gema> we have added logging information to the test cases to make them more user friendly
[16:33] <gema> jamespage: sure, we have created a mailing list for that
[16:33] <gema> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-utah-devel
[16:33] <gema> these test cases are not in production yet, that is why they are in a personal branch somewhere, we are discussing wht the best way forward would be
[16:34] <rbasak> This is for writing tests as well as developing utah itself?
[16:34] <rbasak> (ubuntu-utah-devel)
[16:34] <gema> rbasak: yes, we don't have any external contributors yet, but we are at a point where we would be happy to get some merge requests
[16:34] <gema> the tool seems to be stable enough and off the ground for that
[16:34] <rbasak> ok
[16:35] <jamespage> gema, is there any documentation on how to get up and running with UTAH so folk can start getting a bit more involved?
[16:35] <gema> jamespage: yes and no, we have some documentation, but things are going so quickly that is gets outdated fairly quickly
[16:35] <gema> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/UbuntuTestAutomationHarness
[16:35] <gema> we are working on making the documentation insource and publishing it to a wiki somehow
[16:36] <gema> so that it can be kept up to date
[16:36] <gema> the best way to get started is to read what is in that wiki now and ask questions on the mailing
[16:36] <smoser> ready to go on ?
[16:36] <gema> we have a weekly hangout to discuss progress and I send a report to the list for further discussion
[16:36] <smoser> (sorry)
[16:37] <gema> our bootspeed testing has been migrated as well to utah
[16:37] <gema> and it is running with it
[16:37] <gema> we were having problems with the other scripts
[16:37] <gema> so that is the only production testing we are running with utah atm
[16:37] <gema> and I think that is all I have, do you guys have more questions?
[16:38] <gema> this is what we've learnt from the migration so far:
[16:38] <gema> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/UbuntuTestAutomationHarness/HowToWriteGoodTestCases
[16:39] <jamespage> gema, it would be great to get the server test cases in a team branch so people can start expanding/adding to them
[16:39] <gema> jamespage: I agree, we should probably have a meeting separate from this one so that we can fill you guys in what we did
[16:39] <gema> and what the thoughts / concerns are
[16:39] <jamespage> gema, sure
[16:39] <arosales> thanks gema for the update
[16:40] <gema> no problem
[16:40] <gema> ..
[16:40] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:40] <smb> Hi. Well actually not really much prepared to say. The patch to enable nested kvm in q is in the pipe for the next precise update. Beside of that I have not more. Are there questions?
[16:40] <smb> ..
[16:41] <hallyn> \o/
[16:42] <hallyn> thx for that
[16:42] <smoser> nice work.
[16:42] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:42] <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
[16:44] <smoser> #topic Open Discussion
[16:45] <arosales> Ursinha: did you have some reports to mention here, or hold off for another time?
[16:45] <Ursinha> arosales, hold them off :)
[16:45] <arosales> Ursinha: ok, thanks
[16:46] <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:46] <smoser> next meeting is in 24*7-1 hours in most locals
[16:46] <Daviey> super, thanks smoser
[16:46] <arosales> smoser: thanks for chairing
[16:46] <smoser> Next meeting: Tuesday 2012-08-21 at 1600 UTC
[16:47] <smoser> #endmeeting
[16:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 14 16:47:02 2012 UTC.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <sforshee> o/
[17:01] <ppisati> Q/omap4: porting of tilt-3.4 [1] on top of Q 3.5 is done, i'm consolidating the code now.
[17:01] <ppisati> The resulting kernel is available here:
[17:01] <ppisati> http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35/linux-image-3.5.0-205-omap4_3.5.0-205.10_armhf.deb
[17:01] <ppisati> and here is the git tree:
[17:01] <ppisati> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35
[17:01] <ppisati> The entire patchset is available at http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-tilt-34-on-35/tilt-3.4/
[17:01] <ppisati> There's a tracking bug following kernel consolidation here: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1035289
[17:01] <ppisati> Right now i'm cleaning up the boot process(WARN_ON()&c), rebasing on latest Q/master, importing latest Q/omap4 config changes, etcetc
[17:01] <ppisati> i'll start tackling the analog audio in the next few days.
[17:01] <ppisati> [1]: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-1.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||             || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> || tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> We've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-10.10 Quantal kernel to the release
[17:03] <ogasawara> pocket.  This upload most notably provides a rebase to the first
[17:03] <ogasawara> upstream stable v3.5.1 release.  This was also uploaded to the
[17:03] <ogasawara> q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in
[17:03] <ogasawara> 12.04.  We welcome anyone to please install, test, and let us know your
[17:03] <ogasawara> feedback.
[17:03] <ogasawara> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 Freeze (~2 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * Thurs Sept 6 - Beta 1 (~3 weeks)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (jsalisbury)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> == 2012-08-14 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Currently we have 98 CVEs on our radar, with one CVE added and one CVE
[17:03] <jsalisbury> retired this week.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (August 14):
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Preparation; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Natty - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; (4 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (98 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Preparation; 0 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); (166 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix>
[17:04] <henrix> The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 14 17:05:52 2012 UTC.
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[10:37] <Parting1990> Hello,
[10:37] <Parting1990> Is there any development happening on XFCE? is it quite slow? what language is used?
[10:38] <brainwash> Parting1990: yes. yes. C.
[10:39] <brainwash> Parting1990: I recommend checking out https://blog.xfce.org/
[10:40] <brainwash> roadmap for Xfce 4.14 https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap
[10:48] <Parting1990> brainwash: ah damn "C" I know python, was hoping I could start contributing
[10:49] <Parting1990> brainwash: thank you, and the community? helpful / friendly?
[10:50] <brainwash> helpful and friendly
[10:51] <brainwash> you could take a look at catfish which is now part of the Xfce project
[10:51] <brainwash> https://docs.xfce.org/apps/catfish/introduction
[10:51] <brainwash> "Powered by Python and GTK, it is fast, flexible, and exceptional at finding files."
[10:53] <brainwash> also, xfce4 panel profiles
[10:53] <brainwash> https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-panel-profiles/about/
[10:57] <Parting1990> awesome, I will be looking into moving to XFCE, trying very hard to find a good community, I like Gnome / Elementary. but want to contribute, and think XFCE has best potentional
[10:57] <Parting1990> Last, is Xubunthu the recommended platform for XFCE?
[11:00] <gnrp> Parting1990: I doubt xubuntu would recommend a particular platform
[11:00] <gnrp> if you want xubuntu or whatever depends on your personal preferences
[11:02] <Parting1990> gnrp: so in terms of best experience, it doesn't really matter, which is the most vanilla ?
[11:07] <brainwash> Parting1990: xubuntu has a customized Xfce session (theme, panel configuration, settings here and there)
[11:08] <brainwash> it also tries to ship with latest Xfce component versions
[11:09] <brainwash> Xubuntu 18.10 has mostly 4.13 components
[11:09] <brainwash> 4.13 being the dev branch of Xfce
[11:14] <Parting1990> brainwash: okay so think best optionwould be xubunthu, think I will give 18.04 or 18.10 a shot, need to see if I really need 18.10 first
[11:14] <Parting1990> as I come from Fedora
[11:14] <brainwash> Fedora has a Xfce spin, doesn't it?
[11:15] <Parting1990> It does but to me its really kitted for Gnome
[11:16] <brainwash> you can customize the Xfce session though
[11:16] <brainwash> to your liking
[11:20] <Parting1990> True, but because its a spin, I just have feeling like it wont be a true experience.
[11:20] <brainwash> xubuntu is a "spin" or flavor of ubuntu
[11:21] <brainwash> I don't know what you mean with "true experience"
[11:22] <Parting1990> so XFCE doesnt have a flagship/preferred distro?
[11:23] <brainwash> not really. one could argue that Xubuntu is that, because it is widely known.
[11:23] <brainwash> two core Xfce devs are part of the Xubuntu team also
[11:24] <ondondil> Xubuntu has much better defaults.
[11:24] <ondondil> Default settings matter. People are lazy
[11:25] <Parting1990> brainwash: perfect thats good enough for me :) excited for this adventure, My home server pc has Xubunthu on it, restarted twice in 2 years. solid
[11:25] <Parting1990> I want to bring Wingpanel to XFCE ;)
[11:27] <brainwash> maybe you can mimic the functionality with xfce4-panel already
[11:28] <Parting1990> brainwash: yeah exactly :)
[11:29] <Parting1990> okay, thanks everybody, this has been exactly what I've been looking for in Linux to start helping on a project, I will go do research and migrate to Xubunthu, then ill be joining one of the Dev Teams, good ay for me to end 2018
[11:30] <brainwash> awesome
[21:21] <xubuntu23d> hola, alguien español ?


[00:11] <Cheri703> today is officially the day of "it worked 5 minutes ago, why the heck isn't it working now" >.<
[00:12] <Cheri703> my flash drives were automounting earlier, now when I plug them in, nothing happens :/
[00:57] <Cheri703> stupid storm, power went out a few times, reset my dang router again >.<
[00:57] <Cheri703> saving settings now
[01:38] <Cheri703> amish guy got arrested in indiana for sexting a 12 yr old girl.....weird
[02:02] <canthus13> blargh.
[02:02] <canthus13> freakin' power outages.
[02:02] <Cheri703> blarghy blargh, mine has stayed on so far
[02:03] <canthus13> Wasn't enough to crash my router, but Titan rebooted...
[02:04] <Cheri703> yeah, good fun
[02:04]  * Cheri703 is watching the new episode of hoarders
[02:04] <Cheri703> it's very o.O
[02:04] <canthus13> heh.  That's a freaky show...
[02:04]  * canthus13 is out.. headed home.
[02:04] <Cheri703> yeah
[02:04] <Cheri703> bye
[02:30]  * skellat waves
[02:31] <Cheri703> o/
[02:34] <skellat> So who did I tick off this time with "TOO MUCH ACTIVITY"?
[02:35] <skellat> The only thing happening at the forum is the colloquy between myself and canthus13 at the moment on the metapackage
[02:39] <gillyman> hey cheri703
[02:40] <Cheri703> hi
[02:40] <gillyman> good newa
[02:40] <gillyman> news
[02:41] <gillyman> alli figurnnected out why she couldent co
[02:41] <gillyman> connect to the internet
[02:41] <Cheri703> why was that?
[02:41] <gillyman> shes got a password on her wireless and she was typing the wrong password
[02:41] <gillyman> lol
[02:43] <Cheri703> ah, heh
[02:44] <gillyman> i told her everything you told me to do
[02:45] <gillyman> and she went to type her password in and i guess it told her that it was the wrong one
[02:45] <gillyman> hehe
[02:45] <Cheri703> heh
[02:45] <Cheri703> well, good that she can connect now!
[02:46] <gillyman> i was kinda mad when she told me that, but i was more releaved that it wasent anything else
[02:47] <Cheri703> yeah, sometimes stuff like that happens, you spend TONS of time troubleshooting, and it's something super simple
[02:47] <gillyman> im going to put v-box with ubuntu in it for her tomorrw
[02:47] <gillyman> tomorrow
[02:48] <Cheri703> :)
[02:49] <gillyman> for some reason v-box will not let me put 11.04 in, i was wanting to see if i liked it befor i upgraded
[02:50] <Cheri703> you could just do the live boot
[02:51] <gillyman> duh!!!!!1 i could i forgot to try that thanks
[02:51] <Cheri703> sure :)
[02:51] <gillyman> sorry ive have long day
[02:51] <Cheri703> understandable
[02:52] <gillyman>  you have a facebook????
[02:52] <Cheri703> yeah?
[02:53] <gillyman> i just got a new tattoo,in between that and trying to get alli computer my brain is spent
[02:53] <gillyman> look me up
[02:53] <gillyman> andrew mattone
[02:54] <gillyman> i just posted it
[02:54] <gillyman> my tatt
[02:54] <gillyman> ubuntu hour is next week right
[02:54] <gillyman> right????
[02:55] <Cheri703> yes
[02:55] <gillyman> ok
[02:55] <Cheri703> I'm a "fan" of the ubuntu hour page, so you can find me on there if you want
[02:55] <Cheri703> and you can become a fan of tech hero :)
[02:56] <gillyman> i already am
[02:56] <Cheri703> ah, ok :)
[02:56] <gillyman> you saved my rear end more than opne
[02:56] <gillyman> one
[02:56] <gillyman> once
[02:57] <Cheri703> :)
[02:58] <Cheri703> happy to help
[03:00] <gillyman> i need you and cole to show me how to do the dual partitions and thing like that,ive always been computer stupid, and since cole showed me ubuntu and put it in my computer,ive been wanting to learn more
[03:01] <Cheri703> sure, it's really not that hard, it's just about knowing how to start
[03:01] <Cheri703> we can take a look at ubuntu hour
[03:01] <gillyman> i need to become more self sufficient
[03:01] <gillyman> ok kool
[03:02] <gillyman> i would love to do allis computer myself
[03:02] <gillyman> if she lets me put ubuntu in
[03:04] <Cheri703> yeah, all you really need is a liveboot disk or usb
[03:06]  * canthus13 yawns.
[03:08] <gillyman> ya i know that i just need to how to do the partitions, cole showed me, but it dident stick in my brain
[03:10] <gillyman> im going to try 11.04 out ill probably be back on here in a little bit
[03:10] <gillyman> see you later cheri
[03:10] <Cheri703> bye :)
[03:10] <gillyman> byes
[03:35] <jgould> would someone explain to me how someone uses windows?!?    I don't really know the status of his drive.  I don't know if this thing is just going to go belly up...
[03:37] <Cheri703> just live boot
[03:37] <Cheri703> and use the tools in ubuntu
[03:40] <jgould> That's how I had to salvage his files
[03:40] <jgould> 9.04
[03:41] <jgould> Now I have to find drivers for this computer....
[03:42] <Cheri703> :/
[03:43] <jgould> It's a Dell.  Won't take me too long
[03:45] <jgould> only thing I don' tknow is the wireless...
[03:47] <jgould> I would install Ubuntu, but dad would have a cow
[03:49] <Unit193> Just add a Windows theme :P
[03:49] <jgould> I can't beleive that I still have to install drivers one at a time in windows.  why can't mgrs create a program that looks at the hardware, and gets the drivers in one hit..
[03:50] <Unit193> jgould: Is dd the only way to make a LiveUSB in MacOS?
[03:50] <jgould> I *think* so.  I did it once using Disk Utility, but I can't tell you how I did it
[03:52] <Unit193> We couldn't find a way (And it didn't list the USB after hitting c on boot)
[03:53] <jgould> C won't give you a list
[03:53] <jgould> You need to hold opt
[03:53] <Unit193> C gave boot options
[03:53] <Unit193> But I don't have a new mac
[03:54] <jgould> C should have booted from a CD.    I had one that would pretend to be gone for a few days.. then it would come back.
[04:04] <jgould> When I started this, the only thing that could tell me what the partition on teh drive was, was Ubuntu.  Windows called it an 'unknown partition'
[04:05] <jgould> and for some reason, Natty won't boot on this machine...
[04:05] <Cheri703> canthus13: this one should be fully gone, I went at it pretty hard...we'll see though
[04:05] <Cheri703> jgould: partition find and mount is pretty awesome
[04:05] <Cheri703> google that phrase
[04:06] <Unit193> There are some great LiveCDs for virus scanning
[04:06]  * Unit193 pulled a very long CAT5 today...
[04:07] <jgould> Cheri703: I already wiped the drive and reinstalled.
[04:07] <Cheri703> ah, ok, nvm
[04:07] <Cheri703> Unit193: did you get that job?
[04:07] <Unit193> Cheri703: Don't know yet
[04:07] <Cheri703> ah, k
[04:07] <Cheri703> good luck :)
[04:08] <jgould> I'm going to need some more coffee...
[04:17] <jgould> Why does windows have to be difficult?
[04:20] <jgould> Also, for the record: IE sucks
[04:23] <jgould> A blue screen while installing video drivers?!?!
[04:27] <jgould> I'm beginning to suspect a problem...
[04:40] <Unit193> "Because of the shorter development cycle, Mozilla called out relatively few new features in Firefox 5" Idiots...
[04:43] <jgould> I heard that they were trying to get to FF 7 by the end of the year?
[04:49] <Unit193> They are trying to get 4.6 by the end of the year...
[04:49] <Unit193> Maybe FF5
[04:58] <Unit193> Anyone else see this? http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2011-June/081607.html
[05:01] <Unit193> I know it's old (see the next msg), but does it still work?
[14:33] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[14:37] <dmcglone> morning thafreak
[14:37] <thafreak> Mornin dmcglone
[14:38] <dmcglone> what ya up to this fine morning?
[14:40] <thafreak> more working with mediawiki
[14:40] <thafreak> what about you?
[14:41] <dmcglone> so far I've just been sitting here drinking coffee and reading the news.
[14:43] <thafreak> nice
[14:44] <thafreak> that's how mornings should start
[14:44] <dmcglone> absolutely :-)
[14:48] <dmcglone> anybody use dropbox?
[14:48] <thafreak> just got email from silicon mechanics advertising new servers...they got quad socket xeons now...geez
[14:48] <thafreak> I sort of want to use dropbox....but I tend to avoid proprietary solutions...I tend to prefer to run my own
[14:49] <dmcglone> http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=821
[14:49] <dmcglone> I use Ubuntu One
[14:50] <thafreak> quad, six core cpus, with hyper threading...geez...in 1U...pottentially 64 virtual cpu's for a virtualization server
[14:50] <dmcglone> Cool :-)
[14:51] <thafreak> yet another reason, if I did use it, I'd add an ecryption layer to it :)
[14:52] <dmcglone> I think canthus13 uses dropbox. Wonder if he noticed this one?
[14:54] <thafreak> i did successfully test using encfs on top of ubuntu one....it'd probably work for dropbox too
[14:54] <thafreak> so even if some one did access my account, all they could get would be encrypted files
[14:54] <dmcglone> true
[14:55] <dmcglone> I don't store anything on U1, I just use it for temporary stuff. sorta like pastebin
[15:17] <Cheri703> hola folks
[15:53] <canthus13> Noticed what?
[15:53] <thafreak> that your shoes are untied
[15:53] <canthus13> thafreak: Probably... I'm not wearing them right now.
[15:53] <thafreak> canthus13: as long as you have pants on, it's cool
[15:54] <canthus13> Not for long... :)
[15:54] <canthus13> pantsareoverrated.com
[15:54] <canthus13> Wow. nice, fast fix on that dropbox issue.
[16:00] <dmcglone> anyone know their car parts?
[16:01] <canthus13> A bit.
[16:01] <canthus13> what's up with firefox? We've barely gotten FF4.. now 5 is out.
[16:01] <dmcglone> whats the name of the grease boot that is on the arm that connects the wheel to the vehicle?
[16:02] <dmcglone> it's next to the ball joints
[16:02] <canthus13> Hmm... Is it at the end of the CV joint?
[16:03] <dmcglone> that might be it
[16:03] <canthus13> CV shaft boot, probably.
[16:03] <dmcglone> it connects to the roter and is threaded
[16:04] <dmcglone> thats it
[16:04] <dmcglone> CV shaft
[16:04] <dmcglone> No
[16:04] <dmcglone> thats not it
[16:04] <canthus13> CV shaft isn't threaded... control arms are, though, I think.
[16:04] <canthus13> CV shaft has teeth.
[16:05] <dmcglone> looking at the picture the CV shaft holds the entire wheel on. the one I'm referring to seems to connect to the steering arm from the wheel assembly.
[16:06] <canthus13> Control arm... not sure what the exact part is called, though.
[16:06] <dmcglone> just looked up the control arm, not it either
[16:07]  * canthus13 grabs his chilton manual.
[16:08] <dmcglone> what I'm looking for is just a thin rod that connects directly in front of the ball joints, but only connects to the wheel assembly indipendently
[16:08] <canthus13> Oh.  Sway bar/stabilizer.
[16:11] <dmcglone> the sway bar looks close, but doesn't look like what I need, because the one I need has threads on it. Looks like it's adjustable so the wheels can be aligned
[16:11] <canthus13> Hmm...
[16:12] <canthus13> Dunno then...
[16:13] <dmcglone> I'm googling steering parts, because I have a hunch it's part of the steering
[16:16] <dmcglone> Ok It just may be the sway bar
[16:17] <canthus13> There really isn't much else it could be.. the main components are the control arms, sway bar, and CV shafts.
[16:17] <dmcglone> I'm watching a youtube video on how to install a sway bar, but haven't figured out if it's the part i'm looking for yet
[16:19] <dmcglone> In the video I see the part i'm looking for, but not the part he's working on
[16:32] <dmcglone> canthus looks like the tie rod
[16:34] <dmcglone> tie rod end to be exact
[16:36] <dmcglone> google is your friend :-)
[16:37] <dmcglone> yup, thats it. and the piece it threads into is the adjusting sleeve
[16:38] <dmcglone> I was going to go pick me up one but when I went out there to double check what the part looked like, I discovered my battery is dead for some odd reason :-/
[17:05] <Cheri703> \o/ http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/22/from-sean-connery-to-steve-jobs-get-lost/
[17:12] <thafreak> that is awesome
[17:12] <thafreak> besides, he was probably too busy hitting his wife to do a commercial anyway :)
[17:13] <thafreak> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0
[17:53] <deejoe> Cheri703: thanks, I liked seeing that letter
[17:53] <Cheri703> :)
[17:56] <Unit193> Do we know who yort is?
[17:58] <Cheri703> he's in cinci
[17:58] <Unit193> This is great! http://bash.org/?258908
[17:58] <Unit193> (I could figure that part out...)
[18:19] <Cheri703> I wonder if that is real Unit193
[18:19] <canthus13> Cheri703: Prlly someone who took note of his hostname and decided to screw with him.
[18:20] <Cheri703> entirely possible
[18:20] <canthus13> Sounds like something I'd do...
[18:21] <Unit193> Either way, it's funny...
[18:27] <Unit193> http://www.hockeyforum.com/hockeyforum-chit-chat/26488-good-ol-irc.html
[18:59] <popman> hey
[18:59] <popman> got a question
[18:59] <popman> have a windows machine with a ata data card
[18:59] <popman> it's not your typical ide stuff
[19:00] <popman> I recently had problem with the computer when windows was isntalled but got corrupted to the extent it won't boot not will the windows cd reconize it as a windows copy
[19:00] <Cheri703> ok
[19:00] <popman> I'm wondering if their is a way to extract data off this drive possibly using a os to do ti that would reconize data on the drive
[19:01] <Cheri703> live boot with ubuntu probably
[19:01] <popman> I can't hook it up to a normal ide drive and I have no mobo's that supprot ata
[19:01] <popman> serously?
[19:01] <Cheri703> well, maybe
[19:01] <Cheri703> I've done it where I could live boot and then access the drive
[19:01] <popman> does ubuntu reconize things like hardrive or external deviced?
[19:02] <popman> devices*
[19:02] <Cheri703> also check this out http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[19:02] <Cheri703> yeah
[19:02] <popman> oo what's this I'm a noob >_>
[19:02] <popman> I wish th hd wasn;'t ata though
[19:02] <popman> it sucks
[19:04] <Cheri703> popman: start with a live boot, either cd or usb, just see if it will acknowledge that that partition/hdd exists
[19:04] <Cheri703> go from there
[19:04] <popman> good idea
[19:04] <popman> I'll do live cd
[19:05] <popman> well the winblows cd doesn't reconzie my stuff as windows maybe I'll have betetr luck with this
[19:06] <Cheri703> worth a shot
[19:09] <Cheri703> text expansion is sweet!
[19:18] <popman> oo
[19:18] <popman> I'll stick the the live cd LOl i suck D:
[19:19] <Cheri703> popman: where in ohio are you?
[19:20] <popman> In Columbus
[19:21] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[19:21] <popman> yup yup :D
[19:21] <popman> god can't ebleive winblows failed haha
[19:21] <popman> actually I was messing with the winregistry trying to get rid of spyware
[19:22] <Cheri703> can you just call it windows?
[19:22] <popman> yes
[19:22] <popman> :D
[19:22] <Cheri703> you didn't back up the registry?
[19:22] <Cheri703> (we try not to discriminate against other OSs in here, so calling it M$ or winblows or whatever else is derogatory and such) :)
[19:22] <popman> it wouldn't of mattered though
[19:23] <Cheri703> feel free to say it sucks if it does, just saying, as a general thing, better to call it by its name :)
[19:23] <Cheri703> yeah? that bad?
[19:23] <popman> I would of been upset with a linux os if crashed on me >_> but I totally understand :)
[19:23] <BiosElement> Awesome! Apple continues their illegal attempt to trademark dictionary words, sends cease&desist to F/OSS Start-Up Amahi.
[19:24] <Cheri703> yeah BiosElement, saw that...crazy
[19:24] <Unit193> popman: Can you boot from an install desk? If you can, you may be able to do a repair install
[19:24] <popman> well I figure if someone has a reason for calling it such he or she must atleast have sometype of dialogue. To me if they say winblows or macblow with no dialogue then that's annoying
[19:24] <Unit193> Launchpad should do that to them? ;)
popman: Can you boot from an install desk? If you can, you may be able to do a repair install <-- nope can't boot gives me blue screen
[19:25] <popman> it will load windows but once it actually loads to the desktop it blue screens me
[19:26] <popman> I ran a win repair cd it doesn't reconioze the os as windows at all
[19:26] <Unit193> I take it you already did the repair install? (You don't really need to copy my msg)
[19:26] <popman> it doesn't know what it is
[19:26] <popman> ah ok :D
[19:26] <Unit193> Fun times! Do you know what gparted calls it?
[19:26] <Unit193> Cheri703: Feel free to jump back in at any time :P
[19:27] <popman> :)
[19:27] <popman> it call it a unknown
[19:27] <popman> if that's what you mean?
[19:27] <Unit193> From a linuix LiveCD (Partition manager)
[19:27] <Cheri703> I'm getting ready to go somewhere, I'll check back in here and there as I do so
[19:27] <popman> ah ok let me do tht havn't do anything yet I'm a noob with that ?+?
[19:28] <popman> >_>*
[19:28] <popman> I'm gonig to setup the computer again
[19:28] <Unit193> Might want to look at testdisk
[19:30] <BiosElement> LOL  Cheri703 this is awesome
[19:30] <BiosElement> http://www.amahi.org/ Refresh a few times and watch the link to the right of Features in the menu
[19:33] <Cheri703> alright guys, I'm headed out. have a good afternoon
[19:34] <popman> I think the hd is fine it's win that's messed up =P
[19:35] <popman> more importantly something with the boot loader on it
[19:35] <popman> idk =P
[19:36] <popman> ok i'll do testdisk first
[19:37] <popman> gotta write this irc chan down somewhere
[19:39] <Unit193> popman: Check what filesystem gparted says it has!
[19:40] <popman> on the live cd?
[19:40] <Unit193> Yep! Ubuntu CD?
[19:40] <popman> still buring it
[19:40] <popman> burning*
[19:40] <Unit193> Eh... Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:41] <popman> yes
[19:51] <popman> yup that worked
[20:10] <popman> wow seems to be working
[20:10] <popman> I'm going to do a reformate after that =P
[20:12] <Unit193> testdisk somtimes can fix partition errors...
[20:12] <Unit193> +sometimes
[20:12] <popman> o
[20:12] <popman> maybe I should run that?
[20:15] <Unit193> It's not the most easy program to use, but it may help
[20:19] <popman> ah ok
[21:26] <Unit193> canthus13: Have you seen Conky Lunatico Rings?
[22:06] <Oda> phew
[22:16] <Oda> 111 degrees
[22:16]  * Oda spontaneously combusts
[22:43] <SkrappJaw> Cheri703: If you are around, wanna make 12bux an our doing mobile websites? All you need is basic HTML knowledge.
[22:44] <SkrappJaw> or any other Mansfield area peeps.
[22:44] <Unit193> SkrappJaw: I think she may be gone...
[22:44] <SkrappJaw> sok.
[22:44] <SkrappJaw> She'll pick it up later.
[22:44] <Unit193> Yep :)
[22:44] <SkrappJaw> Do you do HTML?
[22:45] <Unit193> I've done some
[22:45] <SkrappJaw> My sax player is a geek and is starting an "HTML Farm". Just need to write up basic mobile versions of websites.
[23:52] <canthus13> Unit193: Never heard of it.