[14:19] <RealRaven> or maybe I can write a script that starts the other script? Sort of like a batch job?
[14:20] <RealRaven> I think this would be better tham messing around with PATH as I have many test programs installed (the4re are 2 different versions of SeaMonkey 2.0 canonical and 2.5 for testiung the latest extensions)
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, When you're finished with SteMMo could you possibly help RealRaven ? His questions are getting beyond my limited abilities. :=(
[14:20] <RealRaven> but maybe this is only possible in windows?
[14:20] <RealRaven> In windows I would just right-click the file, drag to desktop and select "create shortcut".
[14:21] <RealRaven> what does "Make link" do?
[14:21] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: I can certainly try, what's up ?
[14:21] <RealRaven> is there an irc channel that answers beginners questions?
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, No! I know what you're doing is possible; I just am not sure of the exact process and I don't want to "steer you wrong."
[14:22] <Myrtti> RealRaven: this is the channel
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, Olease restate your question for ikonia
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> Please, even. Now you know why I avoid CLI. :-)
[14:22] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: what does your script do?
[14:23] <RealRaven> start seamonkey
[14:23] <D_Russ> anyone know how to get steam games to play on ubuntu
[14:23] <D_Russ> i was able to get steam installed but the game wont play
[14:23] <RealRaven> the only problem is I just accidentally deleted it.
[14:23] <RealRaven> any way to get it back? is there a trash can somewhere?
[14:23] <ikonia> what's the question ?
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, In the "trash"?, perhaps.
[14:24] <RealRaven> ok, I have found the trash can it was in the bottom status bar. (hidden because of the virtual box screen issue)
[14:25] <RealRaven> so I have restored it. when I start if from the folder it just opens SeaMonkey 2.5
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, He's trying to work with scripts; copy them to desktop, to execute, in a nutshell; no pun intended. ;-)
[14:25] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: sounds simple enough
[14:25] <RealRaven> but I don'[t want to open the folder evewry time I would like an icon on the desktop
[14:25] <unannounced> downloaded skype-.bz2 file, untar-ed it but when i run ./configure in the directory of the file, i get an error that says no such directory or file
[14:25] <RealRaven> maybe I didn't explain that clearly enough
[14:25] <ikonia> unannounced: skype is closed source
[14:25] <ikonia> unannounced: you can't compile it
[14:25] <ThinkT510> !skype | unannounced
[14:25] <ikonia> so "./configure" will never work
[14:26] <ikonia> unannounced: you also shouldn't use "./configure" unless you really understand what you are doing
[14:26] <RealRaven> does anybpdy else know how to create a shortcut / link to a shell script ?
[14:26] <unannounced> unless i understand what i am doing.... good one!
[14:26] <ikonia> RealRaven: sure, right click, create shortcut
[14:27] <RealRaven> let me try...
[14:27] <ikonia> unannounced: seriously, unless you understand what you are doing, blindly using options such as ./configure is a bad idea
[14:27] <Sidewinder1> unannounced, What ikonia said; you might have a look here for compiling: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[14:27] <RealRaven> ~ikonia: there is no "create shortcut"
[14:27] <RealRaven> there is "make link" is this the same?
[14:27] <ikonia> unannounced: the basics of being able to check if a file is there that sort of thing suggests you may not be in the best position to start trying to build software
[14:27] <ikonia> RealRaven: ahh, this is unity, "make link" sounds reasonable
[14:28] <RealRaven> ok, I tried this before ... lets see
[14:28] <raven> gvfs does connect to bilbo.srv.welterde.de and googlecode.l.google.com - what is this doing?
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, That's part of the reason I couldn't help RR; I'm on 10.04.
[14:28] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: yes, I'm not "unity match fit"
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:29] <Trieste> Hi, I've got a machine here that was apparently shut down during a system update, now the system doesn't boot, the kernel "Oops", there's a message about "the target system doesn't have an init" and it throws me into a busybox shell. It freezes when I try to mount the / partition, but the hdd works alright
[14:29] <RealRaven> ok I made the link and movced it to the desktop. the problem is, now if I double click it it asks me every time: "do you want toi run 'link to seamonkey' or display its contnet"
[14:29] <RealRaven> why can it not jsut execute the link?
[14:29] <unannounced> unannounced: the basics of being able to check if  │
[14:29] <unannounced> │a file is there that sort of thing suggests you may not be in the     │
[14:29] <RealRaven> this is what confuses me. and makes me think link is not the same as shortcut?
[14:29] <unannounced> │best position to start trying to build software....kk
[14:30] <RealRaven> or should I disable unity?
[14:30] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, lets step back a little
[14:30] <RealRaven> thank you
[14:30] <ikonia> RealRaven: is your script launching seamonkey yes/no
[14:30] <unannounced> oops
[14:30] <RealRaven> yes
[14:30] <ThinkT510> unannounced: you don't need to repeat it
[14:30]  * Sidewinder1 Sighs..
[14:30] <ikonia> RealRaven: can you pastebin the script please ?
[14:30] <RealRaven> and it does so without asking me first
[14:30] <ikonia> RealRaven: lets have a look at what you are doing
[14:30] <RealRaven> ok, I will pastebin it, one moment
[14:30]  * unannounced knows that is why he said oops
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> unannounced, It's all good. :-)
[14:31] <ubuntunoob> .
[14:31] <unannounced> but thanks all, especially Sidewinder1...
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> ubuntunoob, My pleasure!
[14:32] <unannounced> and ikonia i managed to get my AP up and running yesterday.... :)
[14:32] <gregoire> what  "sudo rm / -rf" does I did it and I have loset files!!!!
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> Oops..Wrong nick,.
[14:32] <ubuntunoob> .,.
[14:33] <gregoire> *lost
[14:33] <ThinkT510> gregoire: why did you run that when you don't know what you are doing?
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> gregoire, Yes, it's all gone. :-(
[14:33] <gregoire> What !!!
[14:33] <RealRaven> @Ikonia: pastebin.mozilla.org/1391545
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> !danger
[14:33] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, let me read
[14:33] <RealRaven> it is the standard seamonkey shell script that you get when you download the official seamonkey tarball
[14:33] <gregoire> loool so funny to troll you :p
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> gregoire, Bye.
[14:34] <ikonia> gregoire: don't do it
[14:34] <matthias1> \exit
[14:34] <gregoire> :p
[14:34] <user_> is anyone else effected by no option to close the black notifications that pop up in the right hand corner of the screen in ubuntu?
[14:34] <user_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/487869
[14:34] <ikonia> gregoire: ok - so what happens when you run that script ?
[14:34] <user_> if so please comment/add in on this
[14:34] <ubuntunoob> im dancing to some ubuntu music.
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> !ot > ubuntunoob
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:35] <gregoire> I think windows is WAY better than ubuntu
[14:35] <ubuntunoob> !ot > ubuntunoob
[14:35] <RealRaven> define better
[14:35] <ikonia> gregoire: stop now,
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> gregoire, Again, see 'ya. :-)
[14:35] <ThinkT510> gregoire: can you stop that please
<  - take your fish and troll away -  ><o(((°>
[14:35] <llutz>  gregoire:
[14:35] <ikonia> gregoire: the topic is ubuntu support discussion, please keep to that topic, but stop trying to troll.
[14:35] <ubuntunoob> !ot > lltuz
[14:36] <ubuntunoob> !ot > llutz
[14:36] <ikonia> ubuntunoob: please stop it
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> and from fr, no less.
[14:36] <RealRaven> ok, so should I modify the shell script and copy it to desktop with the new location of seamonkey?
[14:36] <ikonia> RealRaven: step back again, what happens when you run that script ?
[14:36] <RealRaven> or is there an option "run in" like in windows
[14:36] <ikonia> RealRaven: lets work it through rather than rushing ahead
[14:37] <RealRaven> when I run the script from the seamonky folder it simply starts seamonkey
[14:37] <RealRaven> but I want to be able to double click an icon on the desktop to run it
[14:37] <RealRaven> in windows I would create a shortcut
[14:37] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok - but when you run it from the desktop it does.....
[14:37] <RealRaven> I just don't know how to do this in ubuntu
[14:37] <ikonia> RealRaven: what happens when you use the "make link" option in ubuntu
[14:37] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | Guest59365
[14:38] <RealRaven> when I _copy_ the script itself to the desktop and run it from therfe it does nothing
[14:38] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, that's not what we want to do
[14:38] <ubuntunoob> !rootirc | RealRaven
[14:38] <RealRaven> when I create a "make link" ubuntu asks me what to do run or open
[14:38] <ikonia> ubuntunoob: stop
[14:38] <RealRaven> well I am IRCing from windows
[14:38] <Trieste> Hi, I've got a machine here that was apparently shut down during a system update, now the system doesn't boot, the kernel "Oops", there's a message about "the target system doesn't have an init" and it throws me into a busybox shell. It freezes when I try to mount the / partition, but the hdd works alright. I don't even know where to even start, any ideas?
[14:38] <RealRaven> my ubuntu runs in a virtualbox
[14:39] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok,
[14:39] <ikonia> could we do a little test please ?
[14:39] <RealRaven> @ikopnia: yes of course
[14:39] <ubuntunoob> im up for it too.
[14:39] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, where is the seamonkey script
[14:39] <ikonia> ubuntunoob: stop it, you are not helping the channel, stop messing around
[14:40] <RealRaven> it is in the same folder as the unpacked seamonikey tarball: <username>/public/seamonkey
[14:40] <RealRaven> along with everything that it needs to run seamonkey
[14:40] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok,
[14:40] <ikonia> RealRaven: do you know how to create symboic links ?
[14:41] <juboubuntu> ikonia: 'ln -s'-command ?
[14:41] <RealRaven> no. but there is a context menu entry "Make link"
[14:41] <ThinkT510> ikonia: so essentially RealRaven wants a .desktop file that points to the script?
[14:41] <RealRaven> I know how to open terminal as well
[14:41] <ikonia> juboubuntu: correct
[14:41] <RealRaven> ah,. so shortcut = .desktop file???? BIG lightbulb
[14:41] <ikonia> ThinkT510: well, I'm thinking just a symlink for a test first, but yes, thats the end goal
[14:41] <ikonia> RealRaven: excellent
[14:41] <juboubuntu> ikonia: symbolic links are gwwweat. no bytes wasted and the file is visible in multiple places / locations
[14:41] <ikonia> RealRaven: see where I am going with this
[14:42] <RealRaven> ok lay it on me :)
[14:42] <RealRaven> I have been doing windows for toooo long, so  I have to relearn everything
[14:42] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, the test I'd like to do is create a symlink from the shell script in the correct place, to ~/Desktop/script_name
[14:42] <RealRaven> ok, what do I do
[14:42] <ikonia> RealRaven: ever used the "ln" command
[14:43] <RealRaven> nope, what does it stand for? link?
[14:43] <ikonia> RealRaven: pretty much
[14:43] <ikonia> RealRaven: so "ln -s /place/you/script/is /home/$username/Desktop/link_name
[14:43] <RealRaven> ok i have opened a terminal
[14:43] <ikonia> RealRaven: obviously replacing it with the correct path
[14:44] <llutz> ikonia: that won't work with most of mozilla startscripts, due to things like "curdir=`dirname "$progname"`" and "  run_moz="$curdir/run-mozilla.sh"
[14:44] <RealRaven> is there any way I can copy the location from this explorer like window?
[14:44] <ikonia> llutz: well, that's what I'm wondering in the test
[14:44] <llutz> ikonia: seamonkey does aswell
[14:45] <RealRaven> there is no address bar just broken up panels < [user] [public] [seamonkey]
[14:45] <ikonia> llutz: I wasn't %100 sure if the script would take the real cwd, or the link target cwd
[14:45]  * Sidewinder1 Doesn't, now feel so stupid.. :-0
[14:45] <RealRaven> well user is my name really so it is [axel] [Publi] [seamonkey]
[14:45] <llutz> ikonia: i just grabbed seamonkey to check that
[14:45] <ikonia> RealRaven: ok, so check llutz comment, we are on the wrong track
[14:45] <ikonia> llutz: thank you for the time saving
[14:45] <RealRaven> just wnat to make sure if I get the complete path or whether there is anything hidden before root
[14:46] <RealRaven> @llutz: what;s the alternative?
[14:46] <llutz> ikonia: easiest to make a short script: " cd /path/to/seamonkey && ./seamonkey"
[14:46] <llutz> RealRaven: ^^ sry
[14:46] <RealRaven> ok, that sounds easy
[14:46] <ikonia> llutz: agreed, that seems a much much better solution
[14:46] <llutz> RealRaven: put it into ~/bin
[14:46] <RealRaven> so I am creating a script file on the desktop?
[14:47] <RealRaven> ok, so I am creating this script and save it in ~/bin what does ~ stand for?
[14:47] <llutz> RealRaven: ~ == $HOME == your users homedir
[14:47] <unannounced> well i got it!
[14:47] <RealRaven> ok. let me check
[14:48] <CrazyThinker> Can I make apt use multiple internet connection while downloading packages?
[14:48] <biopyte> hi, i just ran an update on 11.04. window  borders changed, xterm doesnt even have a window border anymore. how can i repair this mess?
[14:48] <ikonia> unannounced: are you using backtrack linux or ubuntu ?
[14:48] <RealRaven> ok echo $HOME returns /home/axel
[14:48] <Sidewinder1> unannounced, You're now compiling away, to your hearts content?
[14:48] <Tannerbaum> Where does Ubuntu put the openssl library by default in 10.04?
[14:49] <RealRaven> so I need to create the script in /home/axel/bin
[14:49] <unannounced> ikonia for today BT5R1
[14:49] <ikonia> Tannerbaum: /usr/lib
[14:49] <Guest84275> hi ubuntu
[14:49] <RealRaven> sorry for being so slow
[14:49] <ikonia> unannounced: please take the support questions to #backtrack-linux then
[14:49] <llutz> RealRaven: gedit ~/bin/seamonkey.sh
[14:49] <RealRaven> but my clipboard doesn't work
[14:49] <Tannerbaum> ikonia: /usr/lib/ssl?
[14:49] <ikonia> RealRaven: it's not an issue, you're working fine
[14:49] <jtokarchuk> Where do people who would like to contribute to Ubuntu usually start? I have read the literature online. All my programming experience is in Windows thus far.
[14:49] <RealRaven> @llutz: ah ok tilde is expanded autmagically. that's handy!
[14:49] <ikonia> Tannerbaum: I thought it was just /usr/lib, but possibly
[14:50] <ikonia> !contribute | jtokarchuk
[14:50] <unannounced> BT is built on ubuntu, thanks
[14:50] <llutz> !backtrack | unannounced
[14:50] <RealRaven> ok got the file in the editor
[14:50] <ikonia> unannounced: yes, it is based on ubuntu, but it is not the same, which is why we don't support it here, please take it to #backtrack-linux (again, please)
[14:50] <raven> gvfs does connect to bilbo.srv.welterde.de and googlecode.l.google.com - what is this doing?
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, clipboard=notepad? If so just run gksudo gedit for root priv., for modifying/saving...
[14:50] <raven> gvfs does connect to bilbo.srv.welterde.de and googlecode.l.google.com - what is this doing?
[14:50] <raven> gvfs does connect to bilbo.srv.welterde.de and googlecode.l.google.com - what is this doing?
[14:50] <jtokarchuk> ikonia: I have read through that. Just unsure if bugfix or MOTU would be a more proper fit
[14:50] <unannounced> well guys don't complain i got it working.
[14:51] <Tannerbaum> raven: you need to be patient, please.
[14:51] <unannounced> should be happy for me
[14:51] <RealRaven> and now just type in "cd /path/to/seamonkey && ./seamonkey"
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> :D
[14:51] <RealRaven> what does the && do? looks like a logical AND
[14:51] <llutz> RealRaven: add 3 lines: 1st line:  "#!/bin/sh"  2nd "cd /path/to/seamonkey"  <replace the path to the real location   3rd line "./seamonkey"
[14:51] <ikonia> unannounced: thats great, but I'm just askig you to take your support requests in future to #backtrack-linux please.
[14:51] <ikonia> jtokarchuk: bug fixes would be most welcome
[14:51] <llutz> RealRaven: without the quotes
[14:52] <llutz> RealRaven: it is logical and
[14:52] <jtokarchuk> ikonia: Alright, that being said, do I need to be running a bleeding-edge release? Or can I fix in the latest release? Is there an IRC channel?
[14:52] <RealRaven> @sidewinder: clipboard = shared clipboard between windows (with kvIRC running) and Ubuntu (in virtual box)  :-)
[14:52] <RealRaven> so basically I cannot just copy from irc to ubuntu
[14:52] <RealRaven> I have to type everything
[14:52] <RealRaven> but that's a separate issue
[14:52] <ikonia> jtokarchuk: you can fix anything you want, launchpad.net has a list of bugs, pick one and get stuck in
[14:52] <unannounced> ikonia: i appreciate your info but i will stay in here
[14:52] <jtokarchuk> ikonia: Thank you.
[14:53] <ikonia> unannounced: you are welcome to stay here, however please take your support requests to #backtrack-linux
[14:53] <ikonia> jtokarchuk: bugfixes are a real lacking area, many people would appreciate resolutions,
[14:54] <llutz> RealRaven: should read like this http://pastebin.com/pgvAUrNA
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, Once you accomplish your task, you might have a look here, it's old but has many, many links to CLI stuff (stuff that I stink at :-(): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171507
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> HTH.
[14:54] <RealRaven> ok got it in pastebin: 1391548
[14:55] <RealRaven> that's pastebin.mozilla.org, sorry
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> "At ain't a URL..
[14:55] <RealRaven> (I am a mozillian(
[14:55] <llutz> RealRaven: URL pls, no puzzles
[14:55] <Sidewinder1> oops, too slow, again..
[14:55] <unannounced> just sit back relax, have a glass of champagne mixed with orange juice. then you will have a good attitude towards me!
[14:55] <RealRaven> ok pastebin.mozilla.org/1391548
[14:56] <ikonia> unannounced: just respect the rules, and take your support requests to #backtrack-linux and there will be zero issues
[14:56] <RealRaven> I am a bit slow because of the missing clipboard
[14:56] <llutz> RealRaven: fine, save & quit, then "chmod +x ~/bin/seamonkey.sh"
[14:56] <Phr3d13> !ot > unannounced
[14:56] <unannounced> have not asked you any questions and i know the rules in here.
[14:56] <RealRaven> ok
[14:56] <unannounced> ok ubottu
[14:56] <Sidewinder1> unannounced, Personally, I prefer Scotch; but that's "ot."
[14:56] <ikonia> unannounced: please see the pm I've just sent you
[14:57] <RealRaven> something strange happened when I pressed save
[14:57] <RealRaven> it says "could not fine the file /home./axel/bin/seamonkey.sh"
[14:57] <RealRaven> this is in gedit
[14:57] <ikonia> RealRaven: look at the .
[14:57] <RealRaven> do I need to run gedit as admin?
[14:57] <teddie> no
[14:57] <llutz>  /home./axel/bin/seamonkey.sh"  remove dot
[14:57] <ikonia> RealRaven: /home.
[14:57] <ikonia> should be /home/axel
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> gksudo gedit, perhaps?
[14:57] <RealRaven> hold on that was just a typo
[14:58] <RealRaven> I created the file from terminal
[14:58] <llutz> no need for sudo/gksudo
[14:58] <RealRaven> I had Terminal openL
[14:58]  * Sidewinder1 Is glad others make typos; misery loves company; I know, enough of the commentary..
[14:58] <RealRaven> axel@PhoenUx:~$ gedit ~/bin/seamonkey.sh
[14:58] <llutz> RealRaven: thats why i use notation like " ~/bin/seamonkey.sh"  less place for typos
[14:58] <RealRaven> I assumed this would create  a new file?
[14:59] <RealRaven> it opene gedit and started to edit the file, I will try save as....
[14:59] <benkant> hahahahaha
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> benkant, ?
[15:00] <benkant> wait for it
[15:00] <biopyte> the update killed my winddow borders. how can i reset window borders?
[15:00] <RealRaven> So I am tryiung to navigate to /home/axel.bin
[15:00] <RealRaven> So I am tryiung to navigate to /home/axel/bin
[15:00] <RealRaven> but there is no bin :-)
[15:01] <llutz> RealRaven: mkdir ~/bin
[15:01] <RealRaven> explains why I cannot put it there ;-)
[15:01] <RealRaven> hmmkay
[15:02] <benkant> https://twitter.com/#!/benkant/status/136619173412474881
[15:02] <RealRaven> ok, I have done it. shell file is in place. so now, how to create the .destkop file pointing to it?
[15:03] <llutz> ikonia: your turn, i don't fiddle with desktops/gnome/unity :)
[15:03] <RealRaven> also could you explain what the first line does? #!/bin/sh ??
[15:03]  * Sidewinder1 Grabs popcorn and is eager to follow/learn the answer. :-)
[15:03] <ubuntunoob> .
[15:03] <llutz> RealRaven: it calls /bin/sh (/bin/dash) to run this short script
[15:03] <RealRaven> I can understand the second and third line the cd and calling the seamonkey shell scripty
[15:03] <ssta> RealRaven: that's called the "shebang", it tells the shell how to run your script
[15:04] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: it is a shebang and tells the system what to run it with (in this case /bin/sh links to the dash shell)
[15:04] <RealRaven> ah, shebang. I know that one. I live in Ireland ;-)
[15:04] <benkant> shebang haskell
[15:04] <benkant> she bang? not likely
[15:04] <RealRaven> "the whole shebang"
[15:05] <ikonia> llutz: sorry, just dealing with something else, I'll catch up in a minute
[15:05] <RealRaven> so there are different shells and the one in /bin/sh is a "dash shell"
[15:05] <f0x> how do i drop root shell with networking in recovery mode
[15:05] <f0x> because 11.10 doesn't have that menu anymore
[15:05] <benkant> 5.04 was porno, but you know what happened? OS X. we all wanted a great Unix :(
[15:05] <ThinkT510> !dash | RealRaven
[15:05] <ssta> RealRaven: yes, but in this case it's because someone in the dim and distant past (probably at MIT) decided that "#!" (hash bang) should be pronounced "shebang"
[15:05] <llutz> RealRaven: /bin/sh is a link to the system default shell, which is /bin/dash on a lot of distros today
[15:06] <RealRaven> ah ok. it just represents another shell folder
[15:06] <f0x> how do i drop root shell with networking in recovery mode
[15:06] <raven> gvfs does connect to bilbo.srv.welterde.de and googlecode.l.google.com - what is this doing?
[15:06] <RealRaven> so now I need to create this .desktop file
[15:06] <benkant> sudo ifdown eth0
[15:06] <benkant> ^down^up
[15:07] <RealRaven> how does that exactly work, do I create a Seamonkey.desktop file on the desktop ?
[15:08] <RealRaven> or is it just called .desktop
[15:08] <RealRaven> brb (just needs to put on water for pasta for kids)
[15:10] <ssta> RealRaven: generally you can just drag it from the menu to the desktop
[15:10] <froes> hi guys. i have created on my server a share with the name storage, i want it to be read only, thats ok. working. but i want the user to be able to create files on storage\users
[15:10] <benkant> drag your dick into the GCC bin
[15:10] <f0x> how do i boot in recovery mode with networking on 11.10
[15:10] <Gentoo64> benkant, what?
[15:10] <f0x> can anybody please tell me
[15:11] <benkant> ./configure && make && make clean
[15:11] <benkant> fixes all
[15:12] <Trieste> Hi, I've got a machine here that was apparently shut down during a system update, now the system doesn't boot, the kernel "Oops", there's a message about "the target system doesn't have an init" and it throws me into a busybox shell. It freezes when I try to mount the / partition, but the hdd works alright. I don't even know where to even start, any ideas?
[15:12] <RealRaven> ok, from the menu to the desktop. the file I made? from which menu?
[15:13] <Braden`> Hello
[15:13] <Gentoo64> hi
[15:13] <Braden`> How do I use sed to delete every line before a pattern?  and then stop when it finds the pattern
[15:13] <RealRaven> the new shell file is now in ~/bin (hope that is the right place)
[15:14] <Darktower> join #xubuntu
[15:14] <benkant> buy a mac
[15:15] <maria> ciao a tutti
[15:15] <RealRaven> hmm there is a bad S/N ratio at the moment
[15:16] <diesch> Trieste: can you access the partition from a rescue system?
[15:16] <RealRaven> somebody suggested top drag the shell file "from the menu" to the desktop. Don;t know quite what to make fo that
[15:16] <RealRaven> // of that
[15:16] <korben> hello
[15:16] <Trieste> diesch, yes, I can
[15:17] <RealRaven> I am now in Nautilus and can see the shell file in Home folder/bin
[15:17] <RealRaven> so how to create this desktop shortcut ?
[15:18] <Trieste> diesch: I can chroot into it, and I'm doing a quick backup now
[15:18] <RealRaven> (and couldn't I have done that with the original shell file from SeaMonkey as well?)
[15:18] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> I keep getting an error when trying to use the package manager / apt-get in terminal -->  Please see http://pastebin.com/zwh3zhZK  for the error. Any help is aprpeciated
[15:18] <RealRaven> @ssta: you said something about dragging, is that correct?
[15:19] <ThinkT510> !fixapt | Dj_FlyBy[ms]
[15:19] <RealRaven> @ssta: because I tried that with the original shell file (assuming it would work like a shortcut in windows)
[15:19] <RealRaven> but it didn't :-(
[15:19] <RealRaven> :'(
[15:20] <RealRaven> ok, I will use the time to test the new shell file...
[15:20] <kubanc_> any idea what is bad_area_nosemaphore
[15:20] <RealRaven> hmm, if I double click the shell file it opens in gedit instead
[15:20] <RealRaven> how does Ubuntu determine the "real" filt type? Is it not using the extension?
[15:21] <Zippa> Hi
[15:21] <milen8204> Why every time when I start Ubuntu 11.10 my Bluetooth starts whit the Ubuntu ?
[15:21] <Zippa> Ubuntu is Great
[15:21] <milen8204> Why every time when I start Ubuntu 11.10 my Bluetooth starts whit the Ubuntu ?
[15:21] <RealRaven> I thought shell files should be executed by default? What tells Ubuntu what to do with a file whne I double click it?
[15:21] <RealRaven> I think I need to buy a book :)
[15:21] <diesch> Trieste: Does it have /sbin/init
[15:22] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> ThinkT510: I've tried that and I still get the error
[15:22] <RealRaven> I know, in windows if I double click a .com or .bat file, it just executes.
[15:22] <Zippa> I love Ubuntu
[15:22] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, I think if you right click on it, it'll give you an open with... and perhaps have a place to click that says "do this always, with this type of file..
[15:22] <RealRaven> o0k. let me try
[15:23] <RealRaven> there are thre "open " commands: open with gedit, open with other application and open as administrator
[15:23] <Zippa> To format the SD card in Ubuntu 11.10
[15:23] <RealRaven> but no "RUN"
[15:23] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, open with other app
[15:23] <RealRaven> I would have thought foo.sh means run to sh
[15:23] <RealRaven> ok
[15:23] <RealRaven> ok, getting a big list
[15:23] <Zippa> I try all ways and lime
[15:23] <Gentoo64> sh command.sh
[15:24] <Trieste> diesch: Yes
[15:24] <Zippa> :-)
[15:24] <RealRaven> there is use a custom command
[15:24] <RealRaven> how does Ubuntu know how to execute the original shell script from Mozilla?
[15:24] <Braden`> How do I use sed to delete every line before a pattern?  and then stop when it finds the pattern
[15:24] <Zippa> I am from poland . Do you speak polish
[15:24] <RealRaven> I thought it uses the file extension?
[15:25] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, try chmod  +x on the file first
[15:25] <bazhang> !pl | Zippa
[15:25] <RealRaven> ah, you mean I have no execute rights on the file. that might explaiun it
[15:25] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, then double click it
[15:25] <Gentoo64> yeah
[15:25] <ya4> milen8204: Bluetooth is enabled by default so that devices that have bluetooth hardware (laptops, for example) can use it with no further configuration.
[15:25] <Gentoo64> otherwise itll open in a text editor
[15:25] <Gentoo64> rather than executing
[15:26] <RealRaven> ahh now I get a different prompt when I double click:
[15:26] <Gentoo64> one that says execute?
[15:26] <Gentoo64> or run in terminal etc
[15:26] <RealRaven> do you want to run seamonkey.sh or display its content? its pretty much the same as what I got when I "Made link"
[15:26] <Zippa> I have a problem with formatting the sd card is my version of ubuntu 11.10
[15:26] <RealRaven> I would like to always run it, of course
[15:27] <RealRaven> chmod +x is a good one anyway
[15:27] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, if its in the home folder you may be able to right click it and choose make executable
[15:27] <RealRaven> ok I am doing run but the shell doesn't open seamonkey
[15:28] <RealRaven> first of all should I not make sure it does what it is supposed to
[15:28] <Zippa> My desktop environment is KDE
[15:28] <alex77ale> ciao
[15:28] <alex77ale> !lust
[15:28] <Gentoo64> list
[15:28] <alex77ale> !list
[15:28] <Gentoo64> heh
[15:28] <Zippa> I love ubuntu
[15:30] <RealRaven> ok if I "run" seamonkey.sh nothing happens
[15:31] <RealRaven> is the #!/bin/sh command really necessary>
[15:31] <Gentoo64> in terminal whats it say when you do sh seamonkey.sh
[15:31] <RealRaven> let me try...
[15:31] <RealRaven> it says cd: 2: can't cd to /axel/Public/seamonkey :)
[15:31] <Guest7550> xubuntu.pl
[15:31] <Dj_FlyBy[ms]> I keep getting an error when trying to use the package manager / apt-get in terminal -->  Please see http://pastebin.com/zwh3zhZK  for the error. Any help is appreciated
[15:32] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, does that dir exist?
[15:32] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: you forgot the tilde and the . before seamonkey
[15:32] <RealRaven> but in Nautilus it definitely looks like that path is right
[15:33] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, is /axel your home dir?
[15:33] <Gentoo64> if so its wrong
[15:33] <RealRaven> @GEntoo64 I don;t know, how do I find out?
[15:33] <Gentoo64> whats your username
[15:34] <RealRaven> is there a Where am I command in terminal?
[15:34] <RealRaven> I don't know which path I am in
[15:34] <Gentoo64> type whoami
[15:34] <RealRaven> ok
[15:34] <Gentoo64> pwd for current dir
[15:34] <RealRaven> axel
[15:34] <RealRaven> ah
[15:34] <RealRaven> i am now in /home/axel/bin
[15:35] <RealRaven> so my command should be cd /homne/axel/Public/seamonkey
[15:35] <Gentoo64> sounds more right
[15:35] <Gentoo64> as the home dir is in /home not / (root)
[15:35] <RealRaven> it is a bit confusing as there are lots of folders with same neam in different folders
[15:35] <RealRaven> ok
[15:36] <ssta> it is confusing to start with, but after a while it starts to make sense
[15:36] <RealRaven> ok, so running my new shell script seems to work. now I need to get rid of the prompt "run or open?"
[15:36] <Gentoo64> you can use ~/ instead of /home/axel
[15:36] <Gentoo64> but stick to the proper way imo
[15:37] <RealRaven> ok ~/ works as well
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, Another piece of advice, don't name directories or filenames with a "space" in them; linux handles that differently and can be a PIA.. :D
[15:37] <Gentoo64> yeah, thats whatsever user you're usings /home dir
[15:37] <RealRaven> how do I add a comment to a shell script ?
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> #
[15:37] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: #this is a comment
[15:38] <RealRaven> @ah, thaqt means the first line #!/bin/sh doesn't do anything?
[15:38] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, yeah anything after a hash is discarded
[15:38] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: good practice to keep comments on seperate lines in scripts
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> ^
[15:38] <RealRaven> hmm, ok. so why even put in that line #!/bin/sh
[15:38] <RealRaven> I thought it invoked the dash shell ?
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, For info., purposes.
[15:39] <RealRaven> yes like in C#, Javascript, asp, asp.net etc.
[15:39] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: no, #! is a shebang treated different to comments
[15:39] <ssta> RealRaven: it invokes /bin/sh (which may or may not be the dash shell)
[15:39] <RealRaven> ah ok
[15:39] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, its required
[15:39] <RealRaven> ok
[15:39] <RealRaven> ok. so now how do I get ird of the prompt and create the desktop shortcut?
[15:39] <RealRaven> // get rid off
[15:40] <Gentoo64> what are you on, gnome 3?
[15:40] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, May I please, make a friendly suggestion?
[15:40] <Gentoo64> 11.10?
[15:40] <RealRaven> @sidewinder, sure
[15:41] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, You may wish to peruse the following link for much info... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171507
[15:41] <RealRaven> ok, wd
[15:41] <Sidewinder1> It has many links to CLI related items...
[15:41] <Sidewinder1> :D
[15:42] <RealRaven> ok, need to create an account there first
[15:42] <FnorZ> anyone has a nice program with which one can store IRC chat snippets? i mean if someone pasted a nice expalantion or url or so, then to simply copy these lines into a not-taking-like application for storing and ordering??? (and yes, i know tomboy, gnotes, etc....)
[15:42] <brontosaurusrex> RealRaven, and a nice bash guide http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, There's many, many more; more than anyone could possibly read, in a lifetime. Welcome to Linux/Ubuntu!
[15:42] <llutz> FnorZ: http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
[15:43] <Gentoo64> FnorZ, for stuff like that i just use text editor
[15:43] <FnorZ> llutz, needs an open browser :/
[15:43] <Phr3d13> As far as I know the chat here is logged somewhere
[15:43] <Sidewinder1> Yes.
[15:43] <ThinkT510> FnorZ: just take what you want from the log files, xchat keeps logs of the chat
[15:43] <FnorZ> Gentoo64, not easy too order the infos with
[15:43] <llutz> FnorZ: true, so use "vim mynotebook"
[15:43] <FnorZ> ThinkT510, i want to a program to directly ystore the info
[15:43] <Gentoo64> FnorZ, name the text file something informative and use lots of text files
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> ThinkT510, C-Chat must be configured to log the chanel.
[15:44] <Sidewinder1> X-Chat, even.
[15:44] <FnorZ> Gentoo64, thought about that. too compliacted imho... best solution i found yet is basket
[15:44] <RealRaven> Sorry was just gone opening that ubuntu forums link, had to create a UID
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> am i doing something wrong, or is it not possible to create a symbolic link to another device?
[15:45] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1: works for me straight off the bat, i always get a log of what was said last time when i log on again
[15:45]  * Sidewinder1 Chops his/her fingers, off to prevent further typos.
[15:45] <Gentoo64> tbh i dont take notes much, i suppose if you do a lot it might not be that convenient
[15:45] <llutz> MonkeyDust: symlinks only on unix-fs
[15:45] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1: are you thinking of xchat-gnome (the slimmed down thingy)
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> ThinkT510, Perhaps logging is turned on, by default, when installing; turned mine off, a while ago..
[15:46] <Gentoo64> logging is on by default on xchat (afaik)
[15:46] <Sidewinder1> ThinkT510, I'm on 10.04, so perhaps, the answer is yes.. :D
[15:46] <ssta> MonkeyDust: you should be able to
[15:47] <RealRaven> Ok, so now I have written the shell script and I want it to always run (and not open it with a editor) when I oduble click it. and also I want to bne able to run iot fgrom a desktop icon
[15:47] <RealRaven> preferably an icon showing the Seamonkey logo
[15:47] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, youd have to manually do the icon
[15:47] <RealRaven> (I wish this was as easy as creating a windows shortcut)
[15:47] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1: i've only ever used the normal xchat so i wouldn't know about the defaults of xchat-gnome
[15:47] <Gentoo64> is it ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 3?
[15:47] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, it was as easy on gnome2
[15:47] <Gentoo64> not on gnome 3
[15:48] <RealRaven> so first, how do I make the shell file react to a double click in the proper way ?
[15:48] <exiff> hello...I have an application serving a page on localhost:**** , how do i access it in a browser on another computer on the same network?
[15:48] <FnorZ> Gentoo64, the problem with txt files is that you have to organize them. i was thinking of a note taking application with which one assign keywords
[15:48] <RealRaven> (I am learning)
[15:48] <Tanvir> Hello, I just added a PPA package in my software sources, how to update the software center now to install that that software? Thanks.
[15:48] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, it should, now its executable
[15:48] <Gentoo64> Tanvir, apt-get update
[15:48] <Gentoo64> then apt-get install as usual
[15:48] <RealRaven> but it always asks me:
[15:48] <jnwhiteh> Is anyone familiar with Empathy? I can't seem to get back to my contacts window and the menu that I'm getting is just for the conversation I'm in..
[15:49] <jnwhiteh> Any suggestions?
[15:49] <RealRaven> Do you want to run "eamonkey,sh" or display ists contents?
[15:49] <RealRaven> which is kind of surprising to me since it is a shell file aftetr al
[15:49] <Sidewinder1> ThinkT510, Me neither; I just know that since I've used it, I turned off logging, to save disk space.
[15:49] <Tanvir> Gentoo64, worked, thanks a bunch. :)
[15:49] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, hmm not sure. something to do with clikcing it in the file manager
[15:49] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, just point it to ip or hostname/page.htm
[15:49] <RealRaven> it can't be that difficult to create a shorcut
[15:49] <Gentoo64> as opposed to running it properly from terminal
[15:50] <RealRaven> por maybe it can be but its seriously clunky
[15:50] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, is it ubuntu 11.10?
[15:50] <RealRaven> I am on this now for over an hour. And I am not generally computer illiterate
[15:50] <Gentoo64> afaik gnome 3 is a pita for desktop shurtcuts
[15:50] <RealRaven> it is ubuntu 11.04
[15:50] <RealRaven> can't up-grade to 11.10at the moment
[15:51] <Gentoo64> ok, can you right click the desktop on 11.04?
[15:51] <Gentoo64> and create shortcut?
[15:51] <Gentoo64> or dont that work
[15:51] <exiff> brontosaurusrex.. I did that and it says "It works.. this is the default web page for this server.... no content has been added yet"
[15:51] <RealRaven> create folder / create launcher or create document
[15:51] <Gentoo64> create launcher..
[15:51] <RealRaven> ok
[15:51] <Gentoo64> thats a shrtcut
[15:51] <Gentoo64> basivally same as windows
[15:52] <jinho> If I have a personal development machine, and another machine acting as a local server with multiple accounts, should I be creating ssh keys for each account, or is it normal to use just one private/public key pair when ssh-ing into the 3 different accounts?
[15:52] <RealRaven> ok, that's the 3rd term for shortcut I heard today. but that;s cool. now I can actually select an application
[15:52] <Gentoo64> then name it, choose an icon and the command to run
[15:52] <Gentoo64> now you know, it is easy :)
[15:52] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, sorry, how does your localhost link looks like?
[15:52] <ssta> jinho: generally I'd setup a key per account.
[15:53] <exiff> brontosaurusrex: the link?
[15:53] <RealRaven> there is even command .. browser. might even be able to point it to the orighinal shell file (if I am allowed to pick an execute location as well)
[15:53] <Gentoo64> yeah
[15:53] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, yes the link
[15:53] <Gentoo64> point it to whatever you want to run
[15:53] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, I know some will jump all over me for suggesting this, but you might want to try 10.04, desktop, it's supported 'til 2013 and is more similar to win, than unity. Just a suggestion. :D
[15:53] <rethus> wasn't there a multimedia-live-version of ubuntu for music-studio apps?
[15:54] <Gentoo64> ubuntu studio?
[15:54] <RealRaven> hmm, no I don't want to revert because it takes a lot of bandwidth to redownload a different version
[15:54] <RealRaven> also I want to uise the system for reviewing Mozilla addons. so newer is better
[15:54] <jinho> ssta: after asking it, I kind of figured I would get that response, but thanks for reaffirming!
[15:54] <rethus> Gentoo64: is it possible to use it as live-cd?
[15:54] <RealRaven> so I better learn the new ways
[15:54] <Gentoo64> rethus, id imagine so
[15:54] <Gentoo64> havent tried it myself
[15:54] <exiff> brontosaurusrex, I don't know what you mean by that... do you mean the resource I'm trying to access?  or the url in the address?  or..?
[15:54] <jinho> ssta: actually one more question: do you name your keys after the account you'll be using them for?
[15:54] <RealRaven> ok, the launcher works. no problem. that was almost too easy
[15:54] <RealRaven> :-)
[15:55] <rethus> Gentoo64: or may be a good choice to install on seperate hdd, and use it via startOnUSB?
[15:55] <Gentoo64> rethus, im pretty sure all ubuntus work as livecd
[15:55] <Sidewinder1> !who | RealRaven
[15:55] <RealRaven> now for the dot on the i how to change the icon
[15:55] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, the working localhost url, like http://localhost:5800/file.htm
[15:55] <RealRaven> @ubottu ok
[15:55] <Sidewinder1> :D
[15:55] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, there should be a generic icon when you edit the launcher, try clicking it
[15:55] <RealRaven> @gentoo
[15:55] <RealRaven> ok
[15:55] <Gentoo64> should bring you to a file list
[15:56] <Gentoo64> try usr share pixmaps for some general icons in there
[15:56] <RealRaven> @Gentoo there is properties... lets see...
[15:56] <RealRaven> ok there is emblems, but no seamonmkey unfortunately
[15:56] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, and the server is apache?
[15:56] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, you can download icons and use them
[15:56] <exiff> brontosaurusrex, it's "localhost:8080"...
[15:56] <soreau> ! tab | RealRaven
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> RealRaven, No, type Gento and hit "tab" key; it'll auto-complete for you. No @ needed.
[15:57] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, http://findicons.com/icon/254664/seamonkey?id=255572
[15:57] <Gentoo64> something like that idk
[15:57] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, and if you do from another comp, like ip.ip.ip.ip:8080 you get what?
[15:57] <exiff> brontosaurusrex,I'm really not sure... but i certainly have apache installed
[15:57] <Tanvir> Gentoo64, can you please tell me how to add something in Luncher?
[15:58] <Tanvir> Gentoo64, I wanted to add Force Quit option in Launcher.
[15:58] <Tanvir> want*
[15:58] <exiff> brontosaurusrex, I get "unable to connect"
[15:58] <Gentoo64> Tanvir, what launcher?
[15:58] <RealRaven> @gENTOO, that tab thing doesn't work -  yes well can I just use the icon in the seamonkey folder?
[15:58] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, just tpe the first few letters of someones name then press tab
[15:58] <Gentoo64> it types the name for you
[15:58] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, what happens if you ping ip.ip.ip.ip?
[15:58] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, yes you can use whatever icon you want
[15:58] <RealRaven> @Gentoo doesn;t work in kvIRC
[15:58] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: are you using a web irc?
[15:59] <ThinkT510> oh
[15:59] <RealRaven> nope i am using kvIRC
[15:59] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, ah ok. that sucks hard, lol
[15:59] <Tanvir> Gentoo64, the desktop launcher at the left of desktop?
[15:59] <Gentoo64> i would switch clients, for that alone tbh
[15:59] <RealRaven> yep. but that's the only one I could make work here in windows
[15:59] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, for windows use xchat wdk
[15:59] <RealRaven> I might switch to chatzilla once I figured it out
[15:59] <Gentoo64> its free
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> If sub-titles are hard-coded into the .avi file, is there an easy way to get rid of them?
[16:00] <Gentoo64> sidewalk, no
[16:00] <RealRaven> anyway. the problem is not how to get at icon files it is how to assign it to the launcher
[16:00] <Gentoo64> not afaik
[16:00] <exiff> brontosaurusrex, 100% successful packets with average round trip time of 1.02ms
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> Or must I re-encode?
[16:00] <Gentoo64> Sidewinder1, yeah i think so
[16:00] <Gentoo64> hardcoded = part of the movie
[16:00] <RealRaven> @Gentoo, :@Sidewindwer1  at the moment it shows the launcher icon (lijke a springboard)
[16:00] <Gentoo64> unless you wana edit every frame, lol
[16:00] <Trieste> Sidewinder1: It's basically impossible to get rid of them completely
[16:00] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, and your 8080 service is what exactly?
[16:00] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: edit the launcher
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> ffmpeg, I'm guessing, or no?,..
[16:01] <RealRaven> @Think: how?
[16:01] <exiff> moinmoin, a wiki.
[16:01] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, yeah, click the spring (in the properties) and you can choose the icon from there
[16:01] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: rightclick and pick edit
[16:01] <brontosaurusrex> Sidewinder1, the easy way would be to crop the bottom part of the video, but thats not usually nice
[16:01] <RealRaven> there is no Edit on rightclik menu
[16:01] <Sidewinder1> Trieste, I wouldn't want a blank space, where they used to be.
[16:01] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, right click the launcher and choose properties, or similar
[16:02] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: i think you are starting to see why i don't use unity
[16:02] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, then youll see the spring icon on yje left, click the spring
[16:02] <RealRaven> there is Properties / make link / open / opan as admin and te usual suspects from the file manu]#
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> Thanks ALL!
[16:02] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, choose properties then click the spring
[16:02] <RealRaven> ahh, got it, just clikc on the icon in the propertie
[16:02] <Gentoo64> yeah
[16:02] <RealRaven> easy once you know it
[16:02] <brontosaurusrex> Sidewinder1, there are filters like delogo, but i dont know if thats in ffmpeg, in any case its probably to hard to do it
[16:02] <Gentoo64> the spring is the generic icon i was on abotu earlier :)
[16:03] <rethus> Gentoo64: is there a special distribution for musicans? Or is this that ubuntu studio?
[16:03] <exiff> brontosaurusrex,is what I'm trying even possible?
[16:03] <Gentoo64> rethus, tbh i dont know. i think for recording (afaik) youd want a low latency kernel
[16:03] <ThinkT510> rethus: i thought ubuntu studio was discontinued
[16:03] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, of course
[16:03] <Gentoo64> rethus, which ubuntu studio may or may not use
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> brontosaurusrex, That's what I thought; guess I'll just live with it.. Can't really, easily, get another copy as it's very, very old. Black and white, days. :-(
[16:04] <rethus> which else desti can i use vor low latency?
[16:04] <RealRaven> sugar, I forgot where I put the original seamonkey.
[16:04] <ThinkT510> rethus: distrowatch to the rescue!
[16:04] <Gentoo64> rethus, you can manually compile the kernel for low latency, but ubuntu studio is prob the easiest option
[16:04] <U-b-u-n-t-u> how do I move the buttons from the left top to the right top on ubuntu 11.1
[16:05] <dr_willis> !controls
[16:05] <ThinkT510> !controls | U-b-u-n-t-u
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> brontosaurusrex, Just in case you were curious, "In Harms Way."
[16:06] <RealRaven> I got it. thanks all
[16:06] <Sidewinder1> Kewl! a "controls", factoid..
[16:06] <RealRaven> now if I could figure out the clipboard in virtualbox ....
[16:06] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, you need guest additions
[16:06] <RealRaven> it used to work in 10.
[16:06] <RealRaven> I have installed the,
[16:06] <RealRaven> them
[16:06] <RealRaven> and the right version as well
[16:06] <Gentoo64> hmm, should work...
[16:06] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: you can ask the dudes in #vbox
[16:06] <Gentoo64> does for me
[16:06] <RealRaven> also enabled 2 way cliboard suoport from the host
[16:07] <RealRaven> //sorry typing too fast
[16:07] <Gentoo64> RealRaven, ask in #vbox yeah
[16:07] <min|dvir|us> Hello. Do Intel graphics work with 3D monitors?
[16:07] <RealRaven> ok., good idea!!
[16:07] <brontosaurusrex> how does gnome-shell runs on atoms? (some eee pc here)
[16:07] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, depends on gpu
[16:07] <Gentoo64> much more than cpu
[16:08] <RealRaven> @Gentoo: hmm, I need to find an IRC server for that one.
[16:08] <exiff> doushio..
[16:08] <Gentoo64>  /join #vbox
[16:08] <ThinkT510> !alis | RealRaven
[16:08] <Gentoo64> its in freenode
[16:09] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I really don't like ubuntu 11.10 it has removed the ability to customize it and it seems it is trying to be OSX's little brother... but fails.. I wish I could revert to 9.04
[16:09] <ikonia> U-b-u-n-t-u: well you can't, so no point wondering
[16:09] <brontosaurusrex> does that tell you anything Gentoo64 ?
[16:09] <ThinkT510> U-b-u-n-t-u: why revert when you can use a better desktop environment like xfce?
[16:10] <realburb> hi, I am installing my server on an usb stick right now (with virtualbox) how can I later check, if the server accesses the usb drive with usb1 or usb2?
[16:10] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, does what? i didnt get a message
[16:10] <bergle> i use xfce now, i didnt like unity
[16:10] <brontosaurusrex> oh
[16:10] <exiff> mmm... brontosaurusrex, thanks for your help so far.. I'm out, ciao...
[16:10] <brontosaurusrex> Graphics:  Card nVidia ION VGA [GeForce 9400M] X.Org 1.10.1 Res<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:10] <Gentoo64> sorry
[16:10] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, yeah itll run it
[16:10] <brontosaurusrex> exiff, no problem
[16:10] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ill try xfce  I have tried gnome classic and KDE now they all seem to be moving away from what made me love ubuntu
[16:10] <bergle> i like my eye candy, but seriously, unity.. just didnt give me enough info at a glance
[16:10] <bergle> like having a large cell phone os on my computer
[16:11] <RealRaven> RealRaven: what do these !command commands mean?
[16:11] <ThinkT510> !bot | RealRaven
[16:11] <RealRaven> like !alis | Realraven?
[16:11] <brontosaurusrex> Gentoo64, i imagine that, but gnome2 with some compiz is actually quite slow, so the question is, can i expect some speed boost from the new version, or everything will crawl?
[16:11] <gnagno> hello all
[16:11] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: they call the bot
[16:11] <ninx> quick question, to new ubuntu here, what command do I need to use after i had run tar xvf?
[16:11] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, gnome 3 doesnt have the same effects, but it uses gpu. itll prob be fine with the nvidia driver
[16:11] <ikonia> ninx: what are you trying to do
[16:12] <RealRaven> @think what does the bot do?
[16:12] <brontosaurusrex> Gentoo64, ok, thanks
[16:12] <ikonia> ninx: that depends on what command you need
[16:12] <gnagno> after installing some extensions on my gnome shell from extensions.gnome.org gnome is not working anymore... is there any way I can delete all my gnome settings and have a clean gnome shell?
[16:12] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, only way is to try it, but it should be fine it isnt a really crappy card
[16:12] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: give information, didn't you read the link?
[16:12] <ThinkT510> !bot | RealRaven
[16:12] <ninx> ikonia: get my audio working i downloaded a file that was tar.gz, and I already decompress the tar and gz
[16:12] <piratenradio> Hi, i have a little question. Where can i get the onformation on wich device the audio input is dedicated to?
[16:13] <ikonia> ninx: what sound card do you have
[16:13] <brontosaurusrex> Gentoo64, well it can play 1080p video (kinda), but of course thats not really related to gpu
[16:13] <Gentoo64> brontosaurusrex, could be
[16:13] <Gentoo64> mplayer defaults to vdpau (gpu) if you use nvidia drivers
[16:13] <Gentoo64> not sure about other players
[16:13] <brontosaurusrex> yes, that makes it happeb
[16:13] <brontosaurusrex> happen*
[16:14] <ninx> description: Audio device
[16:14] <ninx>              product: N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
[16:14] <ninx>              vendor: Intel Corporation
[16:14] <ninx>              physical id: 1b
[16:14] <ninx>              bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[16:14] <ninx>              version: 02
[16:14] <FloodBot1> ninx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <ikonia> ninx: that should work fine out of the box
[16:14] <ikonia> ninx: the intel cards are normally very well supported
[16:14] <ThinkT510> ninx: try alsamixer in a terminal to see if it is muted
[16:15] <ThinkT510> ninx: what are you trying to play that has no sound?
[16:15] <ninx> on the sound settings on output it saids dummy output and hardware is blank
[16:15] <ninx> just music
[16:16] <ThinkT510> ninx: have you installed the codecs you need?
[16:16] <ThinkT510> !codecs | ninx
[16:16] <U-b-u-n-t-u> has anyone tried sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback ?
[16:16] <colloquialismic> Ok... I have a serious need for a ubuntu 10.04 makeover
[16:16] <colloquialismic> any ideas, you fancy fellows?
[16:16] <ninx> not sure about the codecs part
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| U-b-u-n-t-u
[16:17] <selim> slt takos tu est la
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> "tu es"
[16:17] <colloquialismic> Is the Macbunutu for Ubuntu 10.04 sleek?
[16:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> MonkeyDust, that was a "real" question
[16:18] <colloquialismic> or are there any other amaza-zing ones?
[16:18] <ThinkT510> colloquialismic: macbuntu is not a supported derivative here
[16:18] <colloquialismic> oh
[16:18] <colloquialismic> ThinkT510, What derivatives are? ;)
[16:18] <Braden`> How do I use sed to add a newline before each instance of a pattern?
[16:18] <Braden`> or rather after each instance of a pattern?
[16:18] <colloquialismic> I want to spice it up a little and that was first on my list of results
[16:19] <ThinkT510> colloquialismic: only the official ones: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, edubuntu, and mythbuntu i think
[16:19] <theadmin> Not really the place to ask, but does anyone know a Chrome extension to download Flowplayer-based videos?
[16:19] <dougl> colloquialismic, gonna check out macbuntu = got a link?
[16:20] <D_Russ> hello. does anyone know anything about getting steam games to work on 11.10?
[16:20] <colloquialismic> ThinkT510, Do you just have the normal ubuntu?
[16:20] <ThinkT510> !themes | colloquialismic
[16:20] <hrolf> When I do "sudo mount -o /home/farsi/Downloads/VBoxGuestAdditions_4.1.6.iso /media/vbox
[16:20] <landman> :%s/\(pattern\)/\n\1/g
[16:20] <ThinkT510> colloquialismic: i use xubuntu (xfce fan) and i like the albatross theme
[16:20] <colloquialismic> Oh wow... thanks ThinkT510
[16:20] <hrolf> I get error saying that cannot find /media/vbox in /etc/fstab
[16:20] <ThinkT510> colloquialismic: no worries :)
[16:20] <colloquialismic> Yeah... I use my ubuntu for everything now
[16:20] <llutz> hrolf: mount -o loop ...
[16:21] <colloquialismic> i absolutely hate windows
[16:21] <RealRaven> I just restarted ubuntu and now it looks very different. there is a vertical button bar at the left
[16:21] <colloquialismic> i started shell scripting, learning networking a while back and decided to just go ubuntu
[16:21] <RealRaven> I am missing the top menu icons
[16:21] <RealRaven> i mean items
[16:21] <RealRaven> applications / yadda / systen]
[16:21] <colloquialismic> RealRaven, it does that sometimes... did you tweak anything?
[16:21] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: that is unity for you
[16:22] <colloquialismic> lol oh u have unity
[16:22] <ssta> RealRaven: that's unity.  It's Good For You![tm]
[16:22] <colloquialismic> i have LTS :)
[16:22] <RealRaven> arrg
[16:22] <colloquialismic> take it just take it
[16:22] <RealRaven> can i disable tghat ???
[16:22] <colloquialismic> its ok
[16:22] <wwb> i think gnome3 is better
[16:22] <colloquialismic> lol
[16:22] <colloquialismic> yes
[16:22] <FloodBot1> colloquialismic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <colloquialismic> oh snap
[16:22] <RealRaven> I just want my menu bar back
[16:22] <ThinkT510> !classic | RealRaven
[16:23] <RealRaven> ther eis no log out on m y user name anymore !  :-((
[16:23] <RealRaven> no log out command!
[16:23] <colloquialismic> i guess i need to make more concise and less drawn out sentences ha. oi ThinkT510 what is your opinion of me installing gnome-shell on LTS? would it break it all?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> RealRaven  ctrl-alt bcksp
[16:23] <RealRaven> wait its on the power button
[16:24] <ThinkT510> colloquialismic: yes, catastrophically
[16:24] <colloquialismic> ThinkT510, i thought so :(
[16:24] <wwb> you can uninstall the unity ,next install gnome or  kde
[16:24] <RealRaven> @ubottu: hmm i am on the login screen but no "session box"
[16:25] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: type in your name then before you type in your password there is a session box
[16:25] <wwb> resart it
[16:25] <gnagno> is it possible to delete all actual gnome settings and have everything clean like a fresh gnome install ?
[16:25] <RealRaven> there is now a box at the b ottom saying Engliush Ireland Ubu8ntu
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> gnagno  bleachbit
[16:26] <gnagno> what will happen if I delete the .gnome2 folder in my home dir?
[16:26] <RealRaven> and Ubuntu is a drop up with different Ubuntu options
[16:26] <RealRaven> Ubuntu / Ubuntu Classic / Classic (nbo effects) / Ubuntu Safe mode / User defined
[16:26] <RealRaven> so is it classic I want?
[16:26] <RealRaven> or user define?
[16:26] <ThinkT510> RealRaven: those are the sessions, yes classic is what you want
[16:27] <RealRaven> YEs! everything is back to normal :-)
[16:27] <Ryukoji> hey guys
[16:28] <RealRaven> yesss!!! clipoboard is back working!!! I willbe productive again!!!
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[16:28] <ThinkT510> !yay | RealRaven
[16:28] <gnagno> MonkeyDust, isn't bleachbit just for deleting unnecessary files?
[16:29] <tp43> man...ubuntu isn't as stable as debian, my system is running slow these days
[16:30] <ThinkT510> tp43: thinkpad user?
[16:30] <tp43> ThinkT510, you guessed it
[16:30] <ThinkT510> tp43: great aren't they? my xubuntu works well for me, not slow at all
[16:31] <hrolf> How can I determine my graphic hardware, like what type is it, model etc ?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  lshw
[16:31] <ThinkT510> hrolf: lspci | grep vga
[16:31] <tp43> ThinkT510, hmmm, used to be, gets really hot though, and my batter needs replacement, my cdrom and screen aren't working
[16:32] <ThinkT510> tp43: wow, my t40 is still ticking along fine (but it does overheat when you stress the cpu)
[16:32] <tp43> ThinkT510, maybe if i replace the battery, my cdrom and screen will work then
[16:33] <ThinkT510> tp43: i've always run off mains
[16:33] <tp43> ThinkT510, mains?
[16:33] <avernos> how can i make a comand in bash repeat all the time?
[16:33] <ThinkT510> tp43: the mains, the plug in the wall
[16:33] <tp43> when I close a window, there is a delay these days
[16:33] <diesch> hrolf: sudo lshw -C display
[16:33] <tp43> ThinkT510, yeah, me too
[16:34] <llutz> avernos: use "watch" or see http://linux.die.net/Bash-Beginners-Guide/sect_09_02.html
[16:34] <ThinkT510> tp43: just out of curiosity what desktop are you using?
[16:35] <tp43> gnome, compiz, cairo-dock/glx-dock
[16:35] <ThinkT510> tp43: ah, my t40 struggles if i try compiz on it
[16:35] <osguitechshowfan> Is there a way to install the Ubuntu Software Center from Oneiric in Maverick?
[16:35] <tp43> ThinkT510, really, works fine for me
[16:36] <ThinkT510> osguitechshowfan: no, don't try it, you won't get support here if you do
[16:36] <tp43> I love compiz, you can set up a sceenlets screen, and switch with scaling, and alt-tab with the mouse too, basically, do need a task bar except for launching, for screen real estate
[16:36] <wwb> what about dell vostro?
[16:37] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | Guest89763
[16:37] <hrolf> Okay thanks ya'll
[16:38] <hrolf> I have max resolution 1366 x 768 is there anyway I can increase it? How do I know if my graphic card (built-in) supports more or not?
[16:39] <ThinkT510> hrolf: connect to a different monitor and see what it offers
[16:39] <meco> I have downloaded a package called handbrake-gtk_0.9.5-1ppa1~natty1_i386.deb. Now how do I install it?
[16:39] <ThinkT510> meco: hang on
[16:39] <tp43> like I mouse over to bottom left corer, and it goes to screenlets page with desktop grayed out a bit, and i have a big clock and calendar and windows icons to switch.  THen if i mouse over to top right corner, all the widows scale out and I can click to the windows I want to switch too, and if I mouse click the bottom right corner, I can switch to previous window.  In this way, the task bar is not need except for program launching
[16:39] <D_Russ> how do i confirgure my graphics card? nvidia g230?
[16:40] <D_Russ> having issues playing steam games
[16:40] <ThinkT510> meco: nevermind
[16:40] <hrolf> ThinkT510: Why? I don't want to use another monitor
[16:40] <hrolf> ThinkT510: I want to know if it's possible with my laptop LCD
[16:40] <meco> ThinkT510: Well, I still would like to get som help :-)
[16:40] <ThinkT510> hrof: then no, you can't get a larger resolution than your laptop can handle
[16:41] <tp43> all the other compiz features I turned off, like fire and wobbly windows and stuff, I don't care for them
[16:41] <ThinkT510> !ppa | meco
[16:41] <ThinkT510> meco: i tend not to use ppas
[16:42] <meco> ThinkT510: I don't know if handbrake is available any other way. Anyway, I already have downloaded the package.
[16:42] <ThinkT510> meco: what i'm saying is if i don't use ppas i can't help you with them
[16:43] <meco> Oh... didn't you have experience with handbrake?
[16:43] <gnagno> meco: sudo dpkg -i handbrake....
[16:43] <meco> ok!
[16:43] <ThinkT510> meco: no, don't even know what it is for
[16:43] <Jerrak0s> NickServ identify flwros007
[16:44] <ThinkT510> Jerrak0s: change your password and next time do that outside a channel
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Jerrak0s  you forgot /
[16:44] <meco> ThinkT510: ok :)
[16:45] <Jerrak0s> ThinkT510,  how to change password ?
[16:45] <meco> ThinkT510: If you ever learn to drive a car you can use the handbrake when you park the vehicle so that it doesn't bump into other cars etc.
[16:45] <ThinkT510> Jerrak0s: i'm not sure sorry, i've never needed to, the guys at #freenode may know though
[16:46] <metadan> hey can anyone recommend something i can install on my ubuntu server at work to monitor external websites and notify me if they go down?
[16:46] <Jerrak0s> i found it http://www.technerd.net/nickserv.html
[16:46] <ThinkT510> meco: funny... i meant the software
[16:47] <meco> ThinkT510: I'm goingto try and use it for downgrading mkv files so my meager pc are able to digest them.
[16:48] <ThinkT510> meco: i see
[16:49] <meco> I just installed an app (handbrake) using the command "sudo dpkg -i handbrake-gtk_0.9.5-1ppa1~natty1_i386.deb".   This is crazy.
[17:09] <Hilarie> this is what happens when people are trying the new unity
[17:09] <LjL> well now the channel is +r
[17:09] <AnusUranus> CUNTS.
[17:09] <theadmin> LjL: What's +r again?
[17:09] <Hilarie> +r registered only?
[17:09] <LjL> yes
[17:09] <theadmin> Ah yes
[17:09] <LjL> although here they can still join by answering a captcha
[17:10] <wolfric> how do i get to power management now? i'm running ubuntu 11.10 with gnome 2
[17:10] <theadmin> They probably wouldn't bother
[17:10] <Hilarie> There we go, he gave up, this is going to happen more and more with unity
[17:10] <wolfric> i don't see it under the "other" menu option
[17:10] <theadmin> wolfric: err, gnome2 is not supported on 11.10
[17:10] <ssta> sure it is, it's in the supported repository
[17:10] <Hilarie> wolfric go back to 11.04 classic, life will make more sense
[17:10] <ssta> well, sort of
[17:10] <escott> wolfric, in 11.10 press the "windows" key and then type "power"
[17:10] <theadmin> ssta: It ain't... Well... We have gnome-panel, but...
[17:11] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | ssta
[17:11] <wolfric> escott: ???
[17:11] <wolfric> theadmin: then what is the option "ubuntu-clasic" in the login option
[17:11] <varnie> what does it mean "to run teavbiewer through virtualbox"?
[17:12] <wolfric> Hilarie: not helpful.
[17:12] <varnie> teamviewer*
[17:12] <theadmin> wolfric: errr...  How do I execute it?
[17:15] <theadmin> meco: Most likely you can just type "handbrake" or "handbrake-gtk" in a terminal.
[17:15] <Hilarie> meco have you tried typing handbrake into terminal?
[17:15] <meco> theadmin: Neither work
[17:15] <brianherman> do locate handbrake in terminal
[17:15] <theadmin> meco: Huh... dpkg -L handbrake-gtk | grep bin/
[17:16] <wolfric> .... disregarding any questions i have currently asked, what is the gui program called so i can run it from bash for managing power...
[17:16] <escott> meco, you could also dpkg --contents handbrake....deb | grep bin
[17:16] <oscar-> another problem is, that my wireless password (wpa2-psk) is not remembered. is there already a solution for this?
[17:16] <wolfric> sorry, take out the bash part, just the name of the program would be nice
[17:16] <brianherman> wolfric: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[17:17] <meco> Hah!  The executable is called 'ghb'... that's not very intuitive :-/
[17:18] <gnubu> wifi shuts down dialup -- how to fix?
[17:18] <wolfric> brianherman: read it, gnome-power-manager seems to be mia, apt-get says it's installed but it's not located in any default locations in $PATH
[17:19] <hrolf> How do I access a Windows share in Linux/Ubuntu?
[17:19] <brianherman> did you goto system settings
[17:19] <ThinkT510> !samba | hrolf
[17:19] <brianherman> under power
[17:19] <brianherman> wolfric: did you try system settings under power?
[17:20] <escott> hrolf, try and open nautilus the file browser and type in //ipaddressofwindows/sharename
[17:20] <brianherman> oh wait
[17:20] <brianherman> you want to do it with bash
[17:21] <brianherman> wolfric: you want to mess around with your acpi
[17:21] <brianherman> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Battery-Powered/methods.html
[17:22] <pangur> From the console in sudo cp /etc/apache2/sites-available, when I do dir, it shows three files.  When I do sudo rm -r *.*, it claims that there are no files but dir tells a different story.  Anyone able to explain what is happening or what I am doing wrong please?
[17:23] <oscar-> pangur, do the file names contain a dot? ;)
[17:23] <hrolf> escott: It says couldn't find please check spelling
[17:23] <peepsalot> When i got to add a network printer, it says "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall."
[17:24] <peepsalot> there is a box to enter the ip, but no way to click to the next step.  anyone know what i need to do?
[17:24] <pangur> When I do sudo rm default, it deletes default, oscar.  No dots are shown.
[17:25] <escott> hrolf, sorry forgot the smb:// at the beginning. smb://ipaddress/share
[17:25] <osse> pangur, *.* assumes that there is a dot in the file/dir name. Use only *
[17:25] <pangur> sudo rm * works, oscar - thanks for telling me about that.  I had presumed that there was a dot in every file name.
[17:25] <oscar-> ^^
[17:26] <gnubu> dialup hackers here? Dialup fails if wifi is on at the same time. eth0 too, but I can manually bring eth0 up with no conflict. Not so w/ wifi.
[17:26] <pangur> thanks osse too
[17:27] <Si2100> there
[17:27] <attack-tro-lLOL> o hi
[17:27] <attack-tro-lLOL> cunts
[17:28] <Si2100> What format does Ubuntu login wallpaper need to be ?
[17:28] <lauratika> hi everyone, sudenly banshee and totem wont play any radio stations (conect to internet) if im not root, totem say i dont have permission to open the file or link... how this happens it was working normal help!
[17:29] <Si2100> have you tired reinstallin ?
[17:30] <Tm_T> LargePrime: first, you should never run any GUI app with sudo
[17:31] <Tm_T> lauratika:first, you should never run any GUI app with sudo
[17:31] <Tm_T> LargePrime: sorry, misfire (:
[17:32] <lauratika> Tm_T: i know im not running banshee as sudo
[17:32] <lauratika> Tm_T: you read wrong
[17:32] <Tm_T> lauratika: ah, my bad then (:
[17:32] <tryIntryOUT> FUCK OFF
[17:32] <Si2100> lol
[17:33] <Tm_T> lauratika: can you provide some example error message?
[17:33] <AlanBell> Si2100: jpeg or png, oddly enough the default wallpaper has a .png extension but is actually a jpeg
[17:33] <theadmin> lauratika: Some permission issues apparently, you could consider reinstalling them or erasing their .folders in ~
[17:33] <theadmin> lauratika: Or it may be a bug
[17:33] <Si2100> AlanBell, I have a HD .jpeg, and when i selected it with LightDM manger, and login out ti just gave me a back windows
[17:34] <Tm_T> theadmin: reinstalling doesn't fix ownership problems of files, if that's what you think
[17:34] <Tm_T> theadmin: well, unless you effectively remove all user's files too
[17:34] <lauratika> theadmin: but this happens just today no changes to the system at all last months been working as expected
[17:34] <AlanBell> Si2100: so you are trying to set the lightdm background, not the logged in desktop wallpaper?
[17:34] <theadmin> Tm_T: It would normally install files from the packages == with packages permission... But yeah, if it's somewhere in user's config then they'd have to clear that out first
[17:35] <AlanBell> Si2100: is it in your encrypted home directory by any chance? . . .
[17:35] <gunfire007> guys can you see my msg ?
[17:35] <gunfire007> ??
[17:35] <lauratika> Tm_T: if i open movie player and add a radio station address says: Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file
[17:35] <AlanBell> gunfire007: yes, got any questions about Ubuntu?
[17:36] <lauratika> banshee try to fetch the radio station link then comes idle no message at all... any station any link
[17:36] <Tm_T> lauratika: I still suspect it's file ownership problem, could you try setting all your homedir contents to you with following command? "sudo chown username -R /home/username" where username should be replaced with your username on that system
[17:36] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[17:36] <gunfire007> i got a msg from #ubuntu-unregged as they thought i am a bot, and was not able to sign in this channel, so after confirming that i am human, wanted to chk whether my msg were getting delivered or not..
[17:37] <RealRaven> gun your visible
[17:37] <kamilnadeem> I am having an issue with sound in UBuntu 11.10 here are the details http://askubuntu.com/questions/84818/sound-profile-roll-back-from-4-1-to-stereo-in-ubuntu-11-10-also-the-connector-i
[17:37] <theadmin> Tm_T: To avoid such confusing substitutions, by the way: sudo chown -R $USERNAME $HOME # :P
[17:37] <lauratika> Tm_T: FYI if i try to open same link in banshee as sudo it will open
[17:37]  * Sidewinder1 Thought gunfire007 was a bot. :-)
[17:37] <escott> lauratika, +1 for Tm_T if you ran something as root a gvfs mountpoint might be root owned. chown user:user the files
[17:37] <Sidewinder1> gunfire007, JK..
[17:37] <K350> I've 16 (!) virtual desktops on my Kubuntu 11.04. By some reason everytme I change that it gets back to 16 desktops again.  :D
[17:43] <mneptok> Sidewinder1: thanks
[17:45] <kamilnadeem> Ain't no body here who can help with the sound issue,I set the sound profile to 4.1 surround but when I turn up the volume(from the sound indicator)to high it reverts to stereo output.I think I found the reason of it being that when I increase the volume the connector in sound setting starts interchanging between Headphone and speaker(like crazy because I don't have a headphone connected) and because of that sound profile reverts to stereo output(as
[17:45] <kamilnadeem> headphone connector doesn't support 4.1 surround profile). I have had this problem on all of my Ubuntu 11.10 installs. Is There A Fix? Thank You.
[17:45] <brianherman> ls
[17:45] <Sidewinder1> mneptok, NP!
[17:45] <kamilnadeem> Here is is the screenshot of it http://i.imgur.com/oNUGn.png I selected 4.1 surround then increased the sound to max, the profile changed to stereo output as the connector started to interchange between speakers/headphones.
[17:45] <sidney> I just installed from a flash drive the top panel has nothing on the right
[17:45] <DeltaEpsilon> hi
[17:46] <DeltaEpsilon> how can I setup auto backup to a sftp account?
[17:48] <escott> DeltaEpsilon, it is easier if you have an ssh account because you can use tools like rsync
[17:48] <escott> DeltaEpsilon, assuming you cannot have ssh, you can just use an mput to put the data on the remote server
[17:49] <kamilnadeem> Have to leave , bye
[17:49] <A|i3N> Are there ANY good proxy scrapers for ubuntu/linyx?
[17:49] <A|i3N> er linux
[17:51] <escott> A|i3N, what is a "proxy scrapper"
[17:51] <Socky_> Hey all.  How do I enabled ipv6 in ubuntu.  if i type sudo modprobe ipv6, and then lsmod | grep ipv6 i get nothing. yet i get no errors about doing the modprobe
[17:52] <XeonBloomfield> Hello
[17:52] <A|i3N> *scrape*-er
[17:53] <Skummel> Socky_ ipv6 should be active by default
[17:53] <XeonBloomfield> Is there anyone who have working hibernation with mdadm RAID?
[17:53] <theadmin> Socky_: Well, make sure IPv6 is not set to "Ignore" for your connection in Network manager
[17:53] <Socky_> Im using server.  how do i check without network manager
[17:53] <A|i3N> and escott it's a program that'll search web sites or say, google, for working proxy servers and usually have a a function that verifies they work and how fast they are
[17:54] <andykriss> exit
[17:56] <escott> A|i3N, I would think that would be called a proxy checker not a scraper (scraping usually implies that you will dowload everything from that site) see http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/topic/18303-linux-proxy-checker/
[17:56] <A|i3N> well.. whatever you want to call it. It's the program that GETS the public proxies for you before you check them :)
[17:58] <escott> A|i3N, if the suggestions in the above link dont look good, try searching for proxy checker/tester/finder
[17:58] <johnficca> hey so I installed ubuntu minimal and I'm using scrotwm the problem I'm having is when my monitor goes to sleep the keyboard and mouse can't wake it up I have to turn on and off the monitor...any ideas on how to fix that?
[17:58] <cntrational> my speakers don't turn on automatically when I plug in my headphones, and vice versa <.< what do I do?
[17:59] <A|i3N> Thank you escott - I run Windows in a VM on the desktop, so I can get a program to scrape with but it's nice to have a checker for linux available
[17:59] <XeonBloomfield> mdadm RAID + Hibernation - anyone?
[17:59] <Guest3964> So I partitioned my second hard drive, yet i'm still out of space according to rutorrent. I partitioned it, then created a filesystem and mounted it however it's like i did nothing.
[17:59] <escott> XeonBloomfield, what kind of raid is your swap partition on
[17:59] <mneptok> Guest3964: do you have permission to write to that volume?
[18:00] <XeonBloomfield> escott: RAID 1 (whole system is on 10 x RAID 1 partitions)
[18:00] <Leno4ka-telo4ka> hello
[18:00] <mneptok> Guest3964: an empty disk you cannot write to might as well be full. and appears so to the system.
[18:00] <A|i3N> escott ok I did find one with that link - Yaph. Now if I can figure out how to compile it, I'll be set. lol
[18:00] <Guest3964> well the server provider told me to partition it myself, it's their policy or something.
[18:01] <mneptok> Guest3964: pastebin the output of "df -h" please
[18:01] <Guest3964> one sec
[18:02] <Guest3964> http://pastebin.com/deUQN0X2
[18:02] <mneptok> Guest3964: the volume in question is /dev/sdb1 mounted at /sdb ?
[18:02] <Guest3964> yes
[18:02] <DeltaEpsilon> UbuntuOne now giving away 5GB free? :o
[18:03] <lauratika> it's me again how do i chane ownership permission of home folder?
[18:03] <brianherman> laurtika: chown username.username home
[18:03] <mneptok> Guest3964: "touch /sdb/test.file"
[18:03] <Guest3964> nothing happened
[18:04] <mneptok> Guest3964: does "test.file" now appear in the root of that disk?
[18:04] <Guest3964> i'll have a look
[18:04] <mneptok> Guest3964: it will be an empty, 0 byte file, but it should exist
[18:04] <Guest3964> yes it does
[18:05] <mneptok> Guest3964: be aware, /sdb is a total of 7.6MB in size
[18:05] <Guest3964> so does that mean i screwed up the partition?
[18:05] <mneptok> Guest3964: something trying to save a file bigger than 7MB to that disk is going to complain
[18:06] <_jacob_> Hello, is there a way to downgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 11.04. I want to have the kernel 2.6
[18:06] <Phrogz> "/boot is using 98.9% of 91MB"  How do I increase the size of the partition and/or identify files that can be deleted?
[18:07] <lauratika> there is something very odd with totem and banshee trying to cennect to internet on any link given, any ideas what can be the issue seems to be that i dont have permission to use this application running in sudo play any links
[18:07] <Phrogz> (No idea why such a small partition was created for /boot; I assume I used the defaults during setup.)
[18:07] <mneptok> Phrogz: look for kernel version older than what "uname" reports, and remove them. that will free space in /boot
[18:07] <Guest3964> mneptok: can i just create a new partition so it uses the whole drive? or should i format it then try again or?
[18:08] <mneptok> Guest3964: i would delete the existing /dev/sdb1 partition and start again
[18:08] <Phrogz> mneptok: Any/all files with older version? abi- config- initrd.img- System.map- vmcoreinfo- and vmlinuz-?
[18:08] <Guest3964> could you guide me through it, because obviously what i did didn't work
[18:08] <theadmin> Phrogz: Just remove the corresponding packages
[18:09] <Phrogz> theadmin: Forgive my noobness, but what packages are those? Can I list them with apt-get, or find them with aptitude?
[18:09] <Sidewinder1> Guest3964, You may wish to have a look here, for a step-by-step..:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[18:09] <Guest3964> Thanks
[18:09] <theadmin> Phrogz: They're normally called linux-image-generic-VERSION and linux-headers-generic-VERSION.
[18:10] <Guest3964> fdisk /dev/sdb
[18:10] <Guest3964> woops
[18:10] <Phrogz> theadmin: OK, thanks. That gives me something to go on :)
[18:10] <omido> i have problems with installing additional drivers . when i open additional drivers and want to install ATI drivers it tells me : "sorry , installation of this driver failed.Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log"
[18:10] <Sidewinder1> Guest3964, I think it's sudo fdisk -l
[18:10] <theadmin> omido: Pastebin that file.
[18:12] <byp> omido what /var/log/jockey.log says:)
[18:13] <omido> http://paste.kde.org/154430/93597313/
[18:13] <omido> byp: theadmin   http://paste.kde.org/154430/93597313/
[18:14] <theadmin> Woah that's long
[18:14] <omido> i can see AMD Catalyst control center in my applications list but additional drivers tool says the drivers are not enabled yet
[18:14] <Choir> Hi?
[18:14] <DeltaEpsilon> any one knows of a good app to use for timesheets?
[18:15] <ikonia> omido: why is nvidia in there too
[18:15] <theadmin> DeltaEpsilon: Try Rachota (it's javabased, see http://rachota.sf.net )
[18:15] <omido> i dont know
[18:15] <omido> i dont have Nvidia
[18:15] <omido> i just used Additional drivers tool
[18:15] <byp> omido: there is line ERROR: modinfo: could not find module fglrx
[18:15] <Choir> Anyone here willing to help a newbie?
[18:15] <ikonia> Choir: what's up
[18:15] <lauratika> cant download packages from ubuntu software center play any links in totem seems applications cant access internet what can be wrong?
[18:15] <theadmin> Choir: Just ask the actual question
[18:15] <byp> i don't know this module but it may by problem
[18:16] <omido> byp: i'm Noob. i dont know how to fix it
[18:16] <Choir> ikonia > I just switched to ubuntu (I was on win7 previously) and I'm having issues with several things
[18:16] <ikonia> Choir: ok, well, lets see if we can fix any of them
[18:16] <Phrogz> theadmin: Am I in a fucked state? http://pastie.org/2960810 (I can't seem to purge via aptitude, apt-get check shows missing image dependency, but apt-get -f install fails)
[18:16] <ikonia> Phrogz: tone down the language please
[18:16] <Phrogz> ikonia: My apologies.
[18:17] <Si2100> hmm, lightdm broke =/
[18:17] <Choir> firstly, my connection is strange; if I'm not really close to the modem, I can't access the internet. It just asks me for the passwork again and agait...
[18:17] <byp> omido try to google it:) i'm not familiar with linux graphics driver installation
[18:17] <ikonia> Choir: over a wirless connection ?
[18:17] <theadmin> Phrogz: Odd, sorry, I'm no good at diagnosing those APT problems to be honest, I'm not an Ubuntu usr
[18:17] <omido> ok thnx ..
[18:17] <Choir> ikonia > Yes. a wifi.
[18:17] <froes> hi guys..... can i make transmission-daemon when downloading create folders using the 0775 mask instead of 0755 ?
[18:18] <ThinkT510> !google | byp
[18:18] <froes> users from the same group cannot modify files
[18:18] <froes> only read
[18:18] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Fail xD
[18:18] <theadmin> ThinkT510: Oh, actually is not
[18:18] <Phrogz> theadmin: OK, thanks. Anyone else who knows Ubuntu apt and kernels: I'm out of space on /boot, I seem to have a missing kernel dependency, and I can't purge properly. Suggestions? http://pastie.org/2960810
[18:18] <theadmin> ThinkT510: My bad.
[18:19] <Phrogz> Also: any suggestions for how I can resize /boot to be larger?
[18:19] <Choir> ikonia > Secondly, I'm having some problems with IRC. I downloaded Irssi (so I'm accessing irc from the terminal), but I can't manage to connect to a particular server (irc.echonode.net). I got the same problem with internet (can't access a particular website. I think it might come from the dns).
[18:19] <fladdermannen> which permissions should i set to a publickey to be able to use it to access via ssh? it says 660 is too open
[18:19] <ikonia> Phrogz: you'll need to do it from a livecd
[18:20] <theadmin> Choir: Try setting your DNS servers to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:20] <ikonia> Phrogz: you could just remove some kernels
[18:20] <ya4> fladdermannen: 400
[18:20] <Choir> theadmin > That's the google dns right? How do I do it?
[18:20] <omido> ThinkT510:  well . from what i've seen IRC is used to promote google . cause "google it" is what linux irc people tell me most of the time
[18:20] <Choir> theadmin > I did it while on windows, didn't work...
[18:20] <Phrogz> ikonia: Can you be more detailed, please? Do you mean deleting the files out of /boot, or using aptitude/apt-get to uninstall some package?
[18:21] <byp> omido i found some wiki about instalation ati drivers but it's in czech language ... http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/Instalace%20nesvobodn%C3%BDch%20ovlada%C4%8D%C5%AF%20ATI%20(fglrx)
[18:21] <theadmin> Choir: If you use Networkmanager, you can, uh... edit connections -> IPv4 -> Automatic (Address only) and insert those as the DNS servers.
[18:21] <ikonia> Phrogz: apt-get remove purge $old-kernel-package-name
[18:21] <omido> byp: i only know english and persian . thnx anyway .
[18:21] <Phrogz> ikonia: Is there an apt-get command to list the installed packages matching a pattern, e.g. ^linux-image ?
[18:22] <ikonia> Phrogz: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[18:22] <theadmin> ikonia: Not "remove purge", rather "--purge remove"
[18:22] <ThinkT510> omido: you said you were a "noob" so i thought "google it" wouldn't be very helpful to you since i assumed you weren't sure what you are looking for; sorry if i'm wrong
[18:22] <ikonia> Phrogz: there you go, note theadmin's correct
[18:22] <ikonia> theadmin: thank you
[18:22] <DeltaEpsilon> is there something similar to MS Access for Ubuntu?
[18:22] <byp> omido: maybe try to translate it by chrome or something...
[18:22] <Choir> theadmin > Nope, can't find networkmanager; do I have to do it with a terminal?
[18:22] <Phrogz> ikonia and theadmin: Thanks. Proceeding.
[18:22] <ikonia> Choir: are you on the machine now ?
[18:22] <lauratika> sorry got disconected
[18:22] <ThinkT510> DeltaEpsilon: libreoffice base?
[18:22] <escott> DeltaEpsilon, libreoffice has a database system, but im puzzled why anyone would want something like access
[18:23] <omido> ThinkT510: no. you are right . i just think that IRC is invented by google ;p
[18:23] <Choir> ikonia > Yes.
[18:23] <omido> byp:  yeah . i'm using google translate to find out something out of that link . thnx
[18:23] <forceflow> DeltaEpsilon: LibreOffice has an access alternative.
[18:23] <ikonia> Choir: there is no dns entry for irc.echonode.net
[18:23] <ikonia> Choir: that is not your machines issue, that is their issue
[18:23] <ikonia> Choir: they have no DNS zones defined
[18:23] <XeonBloomfield> mdadm RAID 1 + hibernation = anyone get it working?
[18:23] <Choir> ikonia > Well, when I was still logging from mibbit, the echonode server existed... Do you know how I could access it?
[18:23] <Phrogz> ikonia && theadmin: No glory: http://pastie.org/2960837
[18:24] <byp> i have some question on my own. i manage to get ssh connection authetication by public-private key but my color terminal in putty has gone... only bw
[18:24] <ikonia> Choir: they may have a host entry on that serer
[18:24] <ikonia> server
[18:24] <Phrogz> I seem to be stuck in catch-22: I can't remove packages because I have an unmet dependency, but I can't meet the dependency because I'm out of space.
[18:24] <Choir> ikonia > I think they were having issues anyway. Do I have to wait then?
[18:24] <ikonia> Choir: yes
[18:25] <xauth> Phrogz: use dpkg directly to remove the packages.
[18:25] <Phrogz> xauth: Now `man`ning dpkg, thanks.
[18:25] <escott> Phrogz, use dpkg to remove the package or tell apt-get to ignore dependencies
[18:26] <xauth> Phrogz: dpkg --remove <pkgname>
[18:26] <Phrogz> xauth: Thanks
[18:26] <hrolf> Hi, I did sudo usermod -a -G myUser vboxusers
[18:26] <hrolf> and then restarted
[18:26] <Choir> ikonia > Okay. Thank you. Um.. I have more problems; I don't actually know if it's related with ubuntu, however. It's more about my hardware... :/
[18:26] <hrolf> and now I can get my graphics
[18:26] <ikonia> Choir: try ##hardware for that
[18:26] <hrolf> By I graphics I mean I only get a shell
[18:26] <theadmin> hrolf: You get that messed up... You want "usermod -aG vboxusers myuser"
[18:27] <hrolf> I think the X Server or Unity isn't getting loaded
[18:27] <hrolf> theadmin: How do I resolve it?
[18:27] <escott> byp, echo $TERM and add that to the color supported terminals in your .bashrc
[18:27] <Choir> ikonia > Ok. Thank you very much :)
[18:27] <theadmin> hrolf: But sorry, I don't think Virtualbox guest additions like the 3.0+ kernels
[18:27] <Phrogz> xauth: dpkg -l is still listing the packages after dpkg --remove <package>; is this expected?
[18:27] <xauth> escott: wait, apt-get can ignore dependencies? Never too old to learn..
[18:28] <hrolf> theadmin: I don't want it. I want to get back to normal
[18:28] <hrolf> theadmin: How do I undo the changes?
[18:28] <xauth> Phrogz: probably listed as config-files only.
[18:28] <theadmin> hrolf: I beleive you have to uninstall it... somehow... not really all sure
[18:28] <elementary-site6> I have upgraded my kernel to 3.1.4-030104-generic and tried installing proprietary drivers after that, but it failed.
[18:28] <escott> xauth, checking the man page it seems you are correct. i dont see how to tell it to ignore deps
[18:28] <lauratika> i receive Intpu/output when trying to change home folder ownership
[18:28] <hrolf> theadmin: After runnig that command I restarted my machine and now there is no Unity (I only got a prompt for login and a shell afterwards)
[18:28] <lauratika> what can be wrong?
[18:29] <hrolf> theadmin: I ran straight here to get it solved
[18:29] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: then we can't help you
[18:29] <hrolf> theadmin: Uninstall what?
[18:29] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: Why?
[18:29] <hrolf> theadmin: I think usermod messed it up
[18:29] <theadmin> hrolf: Well, I'm off no help. Uninstall the vbox guest additions I suppose, or remove vboxusers from your user group or... Something like that
[18:29] <hrolf> theadmin: Can't I just undo it?
[18:29] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: you are not using a kernel from the repos
[18:30] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: how did you get the kernel? ppa? or compiled?
[18:30] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: I got it of the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:30] <ThinkT510> !ppa | elementary-site6
[18:30] <byp> escott: hmm you point mi right way.... i use encrypted home so this .bashrc is not run after login becouse is in encrypted home....
[18:30] <Phrogz> xauth: My thanks, that did clear space on boot and allow me to resolve the broken dependency. Thanks!
[18:30] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: I know what a PPA is.
[18:30] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: see the warning? if you want support contact the ppa maintainer
[18:31] <xangua> elementary-site6: then you already know that you are on your own
[18:31] <xauth> Phrogz: thank yourself for being able to follow a simple pointer. :)
[18:31] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: Well who's the maintainer? How do I get that info?
[18:32] <Phillip> Hey guise
[18:32] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: i don't know, i stick to the repos
[18:32]  * Sidewinder1 Wonders why people try to mix kernels, versions..? Sounds like a recipe for disaster. :-)
[18:32] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: Okay, I've tried downloading the drivers of the Nvidia site.
[18:32] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1: i wonder why people bother with ppa's at all
[18:33] <Sidewinder1> ThinkT510, Being on 10.04, me too!
[18:33] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: once again, we can't help you with that
[18:34] <needhelp1> how do you set settings for unity and the unity launcher bar
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> needhelp1  in ccsm
[18:35] <needhelp1> how do i open that?
[18:35] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: anything you add outside of the official repos you need to get support from where you got it
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> install it first, i guess, compiz-config
[18:35] <needhelp1> MonkeyDust, thats crazy lol
[18:35] <needhelp1> MonkeyDust, one would think it would already be installed
[18:36] <Phillip> Does this irc have a active backtrack channel?
[18:36] <escott> !backtrack | Phillip
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> Phillip  #backtrack
[18:37] <dskw> hi all. if i want to setup irssi with the proxy version enabled, i suppose i have to compile from source? it seems that the irssi from apt-get does not come with the proxy option enabled
[18:38] <hrolf> theadmin: I'm back
[18:38] <hrolf> theadmin: So can't I get it back to normal state?
[18:39] <theadmin> hrolf: Stop asking me and ask the channel -- I don't know
[18:39] <Phillip> @monkeydust I said an active one, theres no one in that channel
[18:39]  * Phillip he
[18:39] <hrolf> theadmin: Sorry
[18:39] <ThinkT510> Phillip: it is #backtrack-linux not #backtrack
[18:39] <elementary-site6> Okay, how about this: how do I install the nouveau driver in Maverick?
[18:40] <froes> i have a folder permission of drwxrwxr-x  on a folder and someone from the same group cannot create files on that folder
[18:40] <hrolf> #ubuntu, I did sudo usermod -a -G <myUser> vboxusers and then restarted the machine and now I only get a shell
[18:40] <hrolf> I'm on Ubuntu 11.10, how do I fix it back?
[18:40] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: you should be able to use the restricted drivers dialog thing
[18:41] <froes> any ideas ?
[18:41] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: not sure if it would work with the kernel you installed though
[18:41] <froes> touch: foo.bar: Permission denied
[18:41] <escott> hrolf, so the usermod command is usermod -a -G group user
[18:41] <MaMaGoody> hi, how do I pin a package so it won't be updated?
[18:41] <elementary-site6> ThinkT510: However, it does not show up (not because of the kernel, it's because it's Maverick)
[18:41] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: i think it is called jockey-gtk or gtk-jockey
[18:42] <hrolf> escott: Yes that's what I typed in.
[18:42] <MaMaGoody> I tried to lock in synaptic but it didn't help, update manager still overwrite it.
[18:42] <sigo> Hello everyone. I am trying to install GHBA using GCC but i am not sure how
[18:42] <sigo> Kind of new to Linux
[18:42] <hrolf> escott: Sorry I forgot it, here is what I did "sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers <myUser>
[18:42] <hrolf> "
[18:42] <sigo> but really enjoying it
[18:43] <escott> hrolf, im not sure what the usermod command has to do with not getting a gui. what runlevel are you at?
[18:43] <hrolf> escott: What is runlevel?
[18:43] <escott> hrolf, `runlevel`
[18:44] <hrolf> escott: Should I run it?
[18:44] <ThinkT510> !find nouveau maverick | elementary-site6
[18:44] <ThinkT510> elementary-site6: its there
[18:44] <escott> hrolf, yes. it will tell you the current init runlevel
[18:44] <hrolf> escott: I'll need to exit my irssi to use it.
[18:44] <hrolf> escott: I'll get back to you
[18:44] <escott> hrolf, ctrl-alt-f2
[18:44] <sigo> Can anyone help me with GCC?
[18:45] <sigo> trying to compile something
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  not if you use byobu
[18:46] <hrolf_> escott: Oops. I did ctrl+alt+f2 and got a new shell (I think) how do I switch between them?
[18:46] <ThinkT510> !tty | hrolf
[18:46] <Phillip> Can anyone tell me how to use conky? I have installed it but can't find it anywhere
[18:47] <sigo> k
[18:47] <ThinkT510> Phillip: type it in a terminal
[18:47] <Charybdis> Phillip: Yeah, it's a CLI only program.
[18:47] <Charybdis> You have to write a config file for it.
[18:47] <ThinkT510> Phillip: the default config is rather ugly so you might want to change it
[18:47] <Phillip> Ok cool now how do I install a new conky theme?
[18:47] <Charybdis> And then call the program pointing it to the config file.
[18:47] <Phillip> There is pre-wrote configs am I right?
[18:47] <Charybdis> There are default ones yes.
[18:48] <Charybdis> Go to a command line and type: conky
[18:48] <Charybdis> If you have a config file in your home folder named .conkyrc, type: conky -c .conkyrc
[18:49] <ThinkT510> Phillip: there are tonnes out there, if you want to see mine i'll post you a link
[18:49] <byp> escott: thanks for pointing me to the bashrc now it working:)
[18:49] <Charybdis> Yeah, look at the ubuntu forums, there is a super thread with peoples conky configs.
[18:49] <Charybdis> Some awesome stuff there.
[18:49] <hrolf> escott: I'm at runlevel N 2
[18:49] <hrolf> escott: I did groups and I'm a member of about 8 groups
[18:51] <escott> hrolf, all that sounds normal. try service lightdm start
[18:51] <byp> could me anybody recomend me some simpler alternative to Munin? basicaly will be enough to monitor drive space, current network and hdd temperature. munin seems to be much complex:))
[18:52] <hrolf> escott: I think I know the cause now
[18:52] <hrolf> escott: I ran the autorun.sh which comes with the VirtualBox Guest Addition.iso
[18:53] <hrolf> and when I'm booting up the machine I get this message "Starting VirtualBox Guest Addition service VirtualBox Additions module not loaded"
[18:53] <jujugoboom> I don't have Internet on my computer and I'm trying to install ndiswrapper from the cd but I can't find it. Ubuntu 11.10
[18:53] <hrolf> I think it might have caused it :(
[18:54] <jujugoboom> And I have the disk as a software source
[18:54] <froes> hi guys. have runned "chmod 775 *" on a directory, but a user from the same group cannot write to the folder
[18:55] <Phillip> How do I write my own custom configs?
[18:56] <jujugoboom> How can I install the software from the installation disk after install
[18:57] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | Guest51647
[18:57] <cktbreaker> Good morning everyone!
[18:58] <Phillip> Is there any good CD Writing programs for backtrack?
[18:58] <jujugoboom> Can someone help me
[18:58] <escott> !backtrack | Phillip not here
[18:58] <ThinkT510> Phillip: backtrack support in #backtrack-linux
[18:58] <ThinkT510> Phillip: you read other conky configs and take what you like
[18:59] <Harith> hello, I want to install ubuntu 11.10 on my HP, core i3, with ATI HD 5470 Rdaeon and buitin intel VGAs, when it comes to installation, intro sound is heard but screen is black, nothing happens
[18:59] <Harith> please help with this
[18:59] <Phillip> ThinkT510 I try to do /join #backtrack-linux in irssi and I just get sent back here :S
[19:00] <hrolf> Okay I think I'm getting to the issue
[19:00] <ThinkT510> Phillip: you sure? it works for me
[19:00] <hrolf> The problem seems that the autorun.sh in the VirtualBox Guest Addition.iso messed up something
[19:00] <brightspark> How can I find how many cores a given program can take advantage of?  I'm looking at a couple different processors for my next machine but am not sure where I would see the most benefits.
[19:00] <hrolf> and now when I do startx I get errors that no screens found
[19:01] <hrolf> I checked the Xorg.0.log and it is trying to load vboxvideo
[19:01] <hrolf> and then in the log file there it says "No devices detected" and on another line it says "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[19:01] <jujugoboom> I need help I'm trying to install ndis on my computer from the 11.10 install disk, I don't have Internet on it
[19:02] <escott> brightspark, thats not something you can easily find out most of the time. short of testing your application on different platforms you wont be able to find out
[19:03] <brightspark> escott: thanks, thought there might be a utility that I could use.  Oh well.
[19:04] <escott> brightspark, what applications are you concerned about?
[19:04] <GeorgeWashington> why does Skype's start up tune sound like a static-ish 8-bit sound? it seems to be acting funny.
[19:04] <CruelC> 0hai
[19:04] <CruelC> What to do with a *.run file in Lucid?
[19:05] <DeltaEpsilon> is it possible to add a shortcut to the side bar in ubuntu for easy access to a file?
[19:05] <escott> CruelC, you can chmod +x is and then ./filename.run, but you should first check that you need to do this. most software is in apt
[19:05] <fladdermannen> is it normal that i get asked for a passphrase when using a public key to access via ssh, when i didnt define one at the time to create the publickey?
[19:05] <brightspark> escott: mainly I'd like to improve the running time of mandelbulber.  A decent render takes a few weeks currently and I would like to chop that down some.
[19:06] <CruelC> Well, I'm asking for it with regard to Ubuntu semi-compatible "Lucid Puppy". The software in question is video card driver package
[19:06] <ThinkT510> CruelC: we don't support that
[19:07] <CruelC> In #puppylinux everyone is _afk_
[19:07] <escott> brightspark, so something like that should be mostly cpu bound, so if it is multithreaded there won't be much of an upper bound. if your system is currently multicore check your cpu usage when it is running, and if more than one are maxed out you can pretty much go with as many as you want
[19:07] <brightspark> escott: very good, thank you very much.
[19:08] <ThinkT510> CruelC: not really our fault
[19:08] <CruelC> As "lucid puppy" 5.10 is semi-compatible with Ubuntu Lucid, I'm asking here.

[19:09] <ThinkT510> CruelC: then don't expect the answers you get to semi-work
[19:10] <CruelC> If it will fail, I'll simply stop trying to use Linux.
[19:10] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I restart gnome shell in terminal?
[19:11] <escott> DeltaEpsilon, gnome-shell --replace
[19:11] <its_me> Hello. Is there an ubuntu dev. here?
[19:11] <its_me> I need help with filing a bug report
[19:11] <its_me> (probably)
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> DeltaEpsilon: gnome-shell --replace     in and Alt+F2 dialogue
[19:11] <CruelC> Its_me: #ubuntu-dev
[19:11] <trism> DeltaEpsilon: if you can get to the alt+f2 dialog, r will restart it as well
[19:11] <its_me> okay, thanks
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> its_me: just run: ubuntu-bug packagename

[19:13] <jujugoboom> How can I manually install a .deb file without software center 11.10
[19:14] <theadmin> jujugoboom: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[19:14] <CruelC> There's no way, it's all about the center.
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> jujugoboom: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[19:14] <Mirx> What command is actually running as root bc I always use sudo for everything
[19:15] <jujugoboom> Thanks
[19:15] <Mirx> I was told not to run as root
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: its not always needed
[19:15] <escott> Mirx, run things without sudo first, and then if it doesn't work complains about permissions then run it with sudo
[19:15] <Mirx> Is sudo the real root command
[19:16] <Mirx> Root and admin the same things?
[19:16] <ThinkT510> !sudo | Mirx
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: you only need sudo for admin tasks and writing where you do not have permissions
[19:16] <escott> Mirx, sudo temporarily takes root privileges and then runs the command after the sudo
[19:16] <mankand007> hi all..
[19:16] <mankand007> i have ubuntu 11.10..
[19:16] <Si2100> Nice
[19:16] <Mirx> ActionParship:  How about when I install programs and updates
[19:17] <mankand007> i also have asus m4a78ltm le motherboard..
[19:17] <escott> Mirx, you need sudo to install software, edit system config files, do some network things (like firewalls) etc
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: so moving data from one folder in you home folder to another in your home will not need sudo
[19:17] <mankand007> i don't get sound in my front audio jack..
[19:17] <Skummel> mankand007 ask on one line please.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: updates write outside home, so will
[19:17] <Mirx> escott:  so just the command without sudo to move things around
[19:17] <Si2100> mankand007, hjave u checked the sound settings
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: need sudo
[19:18] <jANaM> Anyone have a higher uptime than 7 days with Ubuntu natty?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> mankand007: if you run: alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[19:18] <Mirx> ActionParsnip:  Pretty much anything outside my Home dir run sudo?
[19:18] <escott> Mirx, try everything without sudo. if it doesnt work think about "does it need sudo or am I doing it wrong" if it falls in the general administrative category (you aren't messing with your files in your directory) then try with sudo
[19:18] <ThinkT510> jANaM: i have done yes
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> jANaM: i would have, yes. I'm on precise now with something like that
[19:19] <jANaM> then I have some other problem, thx
[19:19] <Mirx> escott: ok
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: exactly as you don't have permissions to write there as your user, which is all you are on the system
[19:20] <mankand007> ubuntu 11.10 - asus m4a78ltm le motherboard..- i don't get audio in front audio jacks... the back ones work fine.. i thought it is some hardware issue... but recently i had to dual boot with windows xp, and the front panel works fine there...is there anything i should do in ubuntu to get the sound?
[19:20] <Si2100> Check the sound settings
[19:21] <jANaM> I'm running lots of experimental software, so that could be a cause for my system's instability and usually needing a reboot after 4-7 days
[19:21] <Mirx> ActionParsnip:  what do I run as just for user purposes or do i just use a command
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> mankand007: did you try my suggestion?
[19:21] <okeanos> hi
[19:22] <ThinkT510> jANaM: what sort of experimental software?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Mirx: commands without sudo will run as your user
[19:22] <jujugoboom> How do I install .dll files using ndiswrapper in terminal 11.10
[19:22] <escott> mankand007, assuming you have hda sound it may be some pin settings with the particular pin configuration of your hda device. check the hda debugging page on the alsa website
[19:22] <Mirx> ActionParsnip:  ok
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> jujugoboom: you need .sys and .inf for ndiswrapper
[19:22] <jANaM> ThinkT510: A bitcoin miner that uses all my cpu power, and when I stop it I feel the system is becoming less responsive gradually.
[19:23] <jANaM> I usually enable it when I'm not using my computer.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> jujugoboom: is there no native driver?
[19:23] <escott> jANaM, have you tried nice'ing it
[19:23] <fornix> can i access gnome menu when i am using unity?
[19:23] <jujugoboom> I have a wnda3100v2
[19:24] <jANaM> escott: what is "nice'ing it"?
[19:24] <sharpK> hey guys, I am having problems with my desktop ubuntu 11.10, I can get  to the login screen, but as soon as I enter the password it either stays on the login screen, or goes into the desktop with no side launch bar or only half of the top bar, or just the desktop picture with nothing else
[19:24] <sharpK> is there anything I can do from the login screen?
[19:24] <sharpK> to recover?
[19:24] <escott> jANaM, nice program; see man nice
[19:24] <mankand007> @ActionParsnip: i tried once or twice using alsamixer... i remember seeing frontpanel as greyed out and set to 0...
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> jANaM: set a high nice value like 15 and it will use less.
[19:24] <Si2100> sharkp, reboot and press F8 and try recovery mode
[19:25] <sharpK> si2100, trying now
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: try unity2D
[19:25] <mankand007> escott, what exactly do you mean pin settings? is it something i can correct with software changes, or is it doomed forever?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> mankand007: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[19:25] <jANaM> escott: thx. By the way I'll try next reboot without running the miner at all.
[19:26] <jANaM> so I can be sure the real cause is the miner software.
[19:26] <sharpK> ActionParsnip tried googling that but don't understand much of it...
[19:26] <jujugoboom> Can someone help with a wnda3100v2
[19:27] <escott> mankand007, hda audio defines how to move the sound around the chip, but not how to output it to particular locations. so one laptop may have a different pin configuration than another. its just  a software configuration issue, but for newer laptops that nobody has seen the software literally doesnt know where the headphone jack is
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> sharpK: you choose it at the login screen
[19:27] <okeanos> Hey guys!!! Just found this website http://anontux.com. They say it gives you anonymity by free web proxy sites?? I still don't get it how it works. And what does have to do with TUX??? Any ideas??
[19:27] <mankand007> ActionPartnership: sorry.. i'm right now in windows xp... as soon as i found out that the front panel works with windows, i came here... i think i'd better login from ubuntu and come back...
[19:27] <ThinkT510> !ot | okeanos
[19:27] <barney> okeanos: hey, I think the Tux is a tribute to Linux
[19:28] <BrokenCog> hello, trying to change the side of the screen which the Unity Dash task bar is located - can it be moved to the right|bottom????????
[19:28] <okeanos> mhh too bad thats the wrong channel for this questen
[19:28] <barney> It seems to be free
[19:28] <ThinkT510> BrokenCog: i don't think so, unity isn't very configurable
[19:28] <sharpK> ActionParsnp, I got in with that, but what does that imply?
[19:28] <barney> I visit http://anontux.org , looks really nice. I think I'm going to use it! (-;
[19:29] <BrokenCog> ThinkT510, thought maybe I was missing something.  THanks.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> BrokenCog: you can move it to the bottom with a hack that breaks things. Its currently immovable
[19:29] <BrokenCog> ah, breaking to fix something ... that's a start :)
[19:30] <barney> hey nice, they also provide HTTPS-Proxies
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> BrokenCog: omgubuntu has the how to as well as what it breaks
[19:30] <barney> thanks okeanos!
[19:31] <BrokenCog> Okay.  I'll look into it.  If it's not a feature the woman using the 11.10 laptop needs, maybe I'll show it to her.
[19:31] <Madara_Uchiha> hello
[19:31] <barney> http://anontux.org I hope it isn't blocked at my school
[19:32] <oCean> barney: stop that
[19:34] <BrokenCog> ActionPar, do you happen to know the article title??  I'm not searching anything on Dash or Unity.
[19:35] <vg> hola?
[19:36] <escott> !es | vg
[19:36] <vg> nobody here?
[19:36] <gaber_> me here
[19:37] <helpmeprease> hey, i have a problem with the installer for ubuntu kubuntu and all others crashing upon install
[19:37] <helpmeprease> %i'm currently in live mode and the installer crashed  at like
[19:37] <helpmeprease> wat do?
[19:37] <gaber_> how did it crash?
[19:37] <helpmeprease> *crashed at like 74%
[19:37] <helpmeprease> disk read write error
[19:37] <gaber_> opertaion?
[19:37] <helpmeprease> i'm trying to use a usb startup disk to install
[19:38] <helpmeprease> however,
[19:38] <gaber_> umm you sure your hdd is working?
[19:38] <escott> helpmeprease, can you please open the disk utility and check the SMART status of your disk
[19:38] <helpmeprease> itit should be
[19:38] <helpmeprease> command?
[19:38] <vg> hi
[19:38] <helpmeprease> i'm on tty1 right now in irssi, so
[19:38] <vg> somebody help me?
[19:38] <helpmeprease> you'll have to bear with me
[19:39] <vg> i need help with brightness buttons
[19:39] <brightspark> So my computer has been running "System Testing" for ages now and it's basically stuck at the gathering information window with a little progress bouncer going back and forth.  Why might it do this and how do I prevent it?  I can't exit it or anything.
[19:39] <fornix> vg, even i am trying to find how to have brightness persist between reboots! if that is ur question
[19:39] <helpmeprease> what's the command for the smart utility
[19:39] <Gentoo64> smartctl i think
[19:39] <lauratika> is there a way to know if banshee is connecting to internet?
[19:39] <escott> helpmeprease, smartctl is the command line tool
[19:39] <Gentoo64> or maybe thats something else completely :)
[19:41] <vg> fornix: can u help me with brightness buttons?
[19:41] <ethen> for some reasons I'm not able to install 11.10 on my sda11 or sda12
[19:41] <ethen> is it a some kind of bug ?
[19:41] <vg> after install , quick brightness button run perfectly
[19:42] <JuicyLucy> hello there
[19:42] <vg> afert update and  reboot , buttons dont run
[19:42] <JuicyLucy> how can i install wine and all the extras?
[19:42] <ThinkT510> ethen: from the amount of information you've provided it is hard to tell
[19:42] <hrolf> escott: Thanks for helping I went to #vbox and they said simply uninstall what I had installed (VBoxLinuxAdditions) and now I'm back to normal. The GUI is up
[19:43] <gaber_> quit
[19:43] <gaber_> oops sorry :P
[19:44] <JuicyLucy> help
[19:45] <ethen> ThinkT510:  I'm using acer aspire 5742g notebook and having windows7 installed in first logical partition but when I try to install ubuntu 11.10 64 or 32 bit on my /dev/sda11 or /dev/sda12 if fails with some migration assistant problem but installas perfectaly in other logical partitons
[19:45] <ethen> *it
[19:45] <ThinkT510> ethen: hmm interesting
[19:45] <ThinkT510> ethen: i've never gone further than 10 logical partitions
[19:46] <ethen> it says  migration assistant can not remount /dev/sda11
[19:46] <ethen> and same happens with /dev/sda12
[19:46] <ThinkT510> ethen: and what filesystems did you format them as?
[19:46] <ethen> ext4
[19:47] <lauratika> some one knows hoe to know if banshee is conecting to internet
[19:47] <ethen> I tried with xfs too but same
[19:47] <subsume> how do I add a command to my path?
[19:47] <ThinkT510> ethen: does the migration assistant say where it is migrating from?
[19:47] <subsume> its in /usr/bin/
[19:48] <jANaM> escott: Is 'nice n=15 wget http://example.com/welcome.webm' valid? Do have an example of how to use, because the manual page...lacks an example
[19:49] <escott> jANaM, the simplest is simply nice wget. i think it defaults to 5
[19:49] <ethen> ThinkT510: I did not enable ( that checknbox) which allows migrate windows document to ubuntu.  if I'm getting you correct
[19:49] <sharpK> if an x-screen setting for dual monitors (one being a TV) won't let me boot into ubuntu, should I try updating to new nvidia drivers or something?
[19:49] <jANaM> escott: thx. it worked!
[19:49] <escott> jANaM, but if you want to specify a level it is nice -n # program
[19:50] <ethen> It did not specify anything except ' falied to mount /dev/sda12'
[19:50] <escott> jANaM, there is also an ionice for non-cpu bound processes
[19:50] <ThinkT510> ethen: so the migration assisstant is trying to migrate from ??? even though you told it not to?
[19:50] <ethen> yes
[19:50] <ethen> excatly
[19:50] <ethen> *exactly
[19:50] <ThinkT510> ethen: sounds like a bug to me
[19:50] <jANaM> ah, well I used n=x because the manual page said "-n, --adjustment=N"
[19:50] <ethen> yeah I guess so
[19:51] <jANaM> but with your help I got it right.
[19:51] <ThinkT510> ethen: how many ubuntu installs do you have on that disk?
[19:51] <medotyou> hi, does anyone know if i have to download the vm version of backtrack5 if i want to run it in a virtual machine? or would the normal iso also work?
[19:51] <ethen> but interesting thing is that installation succedes if I install ubunut on /dev/sda3 to sda10
[19:51] <subsume_> how do I add a goddamn command to my shell
[19:51] <ethen> well for now I have just windows 7 on my machine
[19:52] <ethen> and  1 swap partition and 1 ext4 partition which is supposed to have ubunut
[19:52] <ethen> *ubuntu
[19:52] <ThinkT510> ethen: oh, so the other logical partitions are used for storage or something else?
[19:52] <ethen> yeah just for storage
[19:52] <szal> medotyou: wrong channel; we don't do BackTrack
[19:52] <NetRunnerBlack> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with the open with feature. I'm using a program called Vault of Darkness, which creates .VML files. Ubuntu defaults to opening them with FireFox, and the Vault of Darkness program isn't showing up in the list of 'Open With' options. I tried clicking properties and going down the list, looking for Vault of Darkness to 'Add' it to the list but it wasn't there.
[19:53] <ethen> ThinkT510: just music and movies
[19:53] <jANaM> escott: thx. 'nice -n 15 wget http://foobar.com/file.txt' worked fine!
[19:53] <ThinkT510> ethen: you could search launchpad to see if it is a bug there, if not you could file one
[19:53] <ThinkT510> !launchpad | ethen
[19:54] <ethen> thank you ThinkT510 . I'll try to post bug with screenshot of it
[19:54] <ThinkT510> ethen: no worries :)
[19:54] <NetRunnerBlack> Anyone have any ideas?
[19:56] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: Vault of Darkness needs to add himself as a handler for vml files.
[19:56] <ethen> and may be irrevent with this channel , if I try to install fedora 16 on those partition, it get installed but corrupting bootmgr of windows :D
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> NetRunnerBlack  try opening Firefox and there go to File > Open > your_file
[19:56] <NetRunnerBlack> Ampelbein: Is there anything I can do clientside?
[19:58] <NetRunnerBlack> MonkeyDust: I only have the 'Open File' option under File, but the issue is that I don't want FireFox to open it. I want Vault of Darkness to open it.
[19:59] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: You could create a .desktop file and install that with desktop-file-install
[19:59] <ethen> well ThinkT510 , there are several bugs already launched with this topic, seems like  I might  just have to disable migration assistant.
[19:59] <NetRunnerBlack> Is there no way to open a browse function and manually select a program to open a file?
[20:00] <NetRunnerBlack> Ampelbein: I'm pretty much a newbie at this, so um... what?
[20:02] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: There should be such an option (Open with other file), though I don't use gnome/unity so can't verify currently.
[20:03] <yarrow> NetRunnerBlack:  right click the file, open with other application, enter custom command.  The custom command will be the command used to run your application.  Maybe /usr/bin/vault maybe
[20:03] <NetRunnerBlack> How do I input a custom command?
[20:04] <yarrow> which file manager are you using? nautilus?
[20:04] <NetRunnerBlack> Ampelbein: There is 'Show other applications' but that doesn't show Vault of Darkness.
[20:06] <NetRunnerBlack> yarrow: I'm really sorry, I have no idea. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity, default file manager.
[20:06] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: You can try http://paste.ubuntu.com/758562/, save as vault-of-darkness.desktop, edit the "exec" line to match vault of darknesses binary location, then do 'sudo desktop-file-install vault-of-darkness.desktop'
[20:06] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: That should list it as a application for vml files
[20:06] <yarrow> unity > /dev/null
[20:07] <herpmeeprease> same problem different drive
[20:08] <vg> hi
[20:08] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: Forgot one thing: 'sudo update-desktop-database' after all this
[20:08] <vg> my brightness buttons dont work , help please
[20:08] <Fuwex> I just don't quite understand this. How exactly do I give my user permission to shutdown the computer via ConsoleKit? I.e., how do I instruct PolicyKit to allow my user to execute the consolekit power calls?
[20:08] <Fuwex> Ubuntu 11.10 by the way
[20:09] <NetRunnerBlack> Ampelbein Okay, so I just save that link you gave me as vault-of-darkness.desktop, what's a binary location?
[20:09] <herpmeeprease> so i can't install cause i get a disk error, i'm tryin to usb install to hdd but two different disks now failed
[20:09] <herpmeeprease> both 2 usb and  2 hdd disks
[20:09] <vg> help?
[20:09] <Ampelbein> NetRunnerBlack: The program file of vault of darkness, probably somewhere in /usr/bin/
[20:10] <herpmeeprease> smart status told me the disk i took out temp failed
[20:10] <herpmeeprease> the other one is a brand new 3tb
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> !find consolekit
[20:10] <NetRunnerBlack> okay, thanks
[20:11] <AlanBell> vg: what computer?
[20:11] <vg> HP 630
[20:11] <vg> i3 2,4 4gb ram
[20:11] <herpmeeprease> in live mode it throws messages that look like [446.00] and freezes up says it can't handle kernel
[20:12] <sharpK> how do I get wmctrl in ubuntu?
[20:12] <escott> herpmeeprease, the 446 is the number of seconds the system has been running
[20:12] <pangolin> sharpK: sudo apt-get install  wmctrl
[20:12] <herpmeeprease> i guessed that
[20:12] <AlanBell> vg: on Ubuntu 11.10? do they work differently with AC power vs batteries?
[20:12] <herpmeeprease> so wat do i do?
[20:13] <escott> herpmeeprease, tell us something useful. like the actual error message
[20:13] <vg> AlanBell: yes with ubuntu 11.10.
[20:13] <herpmeeprease> can i burn a cd from here? i'm in tty1 again
[20:13] <sharpK> pangolin thanks, I don't know how you guys memorize all this package apt-gets
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> sharpK  try gnome-tweak-tool
[20:13] <pentacle> has ubuntu 11.04 got the netbeans IDE 7
[20:13] <escott> herpmeeprease, you can burn a cd with wodim, but it sounds like you have some hardware problems
[20:14] <NetRunnerBlack> Where should I put that file that you made me, Ampelbein?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> pentacle: i doubt it
[20:14] <vg> AlanBell: with or without batteries do the same. Dont work the brightness buttons
[20:14] <sharpK> MonkeyDust I actually need wmctrl because a bash script seems to use it for xbmc to run in windowed mode but act as full screen on a dual screen set up using nvidia twin view (that was a mouthfull)
[20:14] <herpmeeprease> wat kind of hw? mobo?
[20:14] <herpmeeprease> it *could be* video
[20:14] <zippa> hi
[20:15] <escott> vg, the brightness keys are not normal keys, they are tied into the acpi system. you should do some searches to see if there are workarounds for your system's acpi
[20:15] <NetRunnerBlack> When I enter the terminal command you gave me it says no such file, does it need to be in a certain place or can I just navigate to it anywhere?
[20:15] <zul__> I'd like to install data_mapper_mapper into my ubuntu linux 10.04 but when I do gem list I can't find it. Anyone could help me?
[20:15] <AlanBell> vg: ok, they are flickery on battery with my core i3 laptop, thought it might be the same issue
[20:15] <sharpK> nice, it worked...
[20:15] <herpmeeprease> when it starts throwin the seconds it's been on, i can swap over to tty7 again and the screen has artifacts
[20:15] <escott> herpmeeprease, i dont know, you havent told us anything useful to diagnose what the problem might be
[20:15] <DDAZZA> When hosting a website: Where should the website source be stored in the file system?
[20:15] <herpmeeprease> wat u need?
[20:16] <pentacle> ubuntu 10.04 has netbeans 6.8 which is easy to install. Are you sure that ubuntu 11.04 does not have netbeans IDE 7
[20:16] <escott> herpmeeprease, what error messages is the kernel giving you
[20:16] <AlanBell> vg: bug 780625 suggests adding  acpi_backlight=vendor to the kernel boot options
[20:17] <vg> Alanbell: how i do this?
[20:17] <herpmeeprease> i dunno i need to reboot into live mode to figure that out and wen i do i can't do anything
[20:17] <coolstar> Is the gtk 2.0 api fully compatible with 3.0?
[20:17] <herpmeeprease> lemmie try and write it down so i can see
[20:17] <herpmeeprease> bbiab
[20:17] <escott> coolstar, no
[20:18] <vg> Alanbell: i dont know how to do this to kernel man, im noob
[20:18] <sn00p> does anybody have dual monitors and will let me look at there xorg.conf i need to get mine fixed
[20:18] <coolstar> escptt: So far as I created a webview, scrolledwindow, and window using the 2.0 code, it works when linked to 3.0
[20:18] <escott> vg, so if you go into /etc/default/grub there will be a line that says "splash something root" you can add the acpi_backlight=vendor there and then run update-grub
[20:18] <coolstar> escott: So far as I created a webview, scrolledwindow, and window using the 2.0 code, it works when linked to 3.0
[20:19] <kb0odu> @snoop...Are they identical monitors?
[20:19] <escott> coolstar, you should be recompiling. there are differences. also ubuntu ships with both a gtk2 and gtk3 library in 11.10
[20:19] <coolstar> escott: I am recompiling using g++
[20:20] <AlanBell> vg: using grub, but reading further I am not sure it will help on your laptop
[20:20] <vg> escott: its to difficulty for me , i never in to grub and kernel...im starting in linux
[20:20] <coolstar> escott: I'm trying to make the same code work with gtk 3.0 and still be compatible with 2.0
[20:21] <AlanBell> vg: hold shift when you boot up, that should take you to the grub menu, from there I think you press e to edit the kernel command line, add that to the end and hit return a couple of times to boot
[20:21] <escott> vg, open a terminal gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub and modify that one line. then run update-grub
[20:22] <vg> ok
[20:22] <vg> wai i try this
[20:22] <AlanBell> escott: vg: best to try it on boot before editing the grub config file I think
[20:23] <Satyr> Hey guys I have an issue with Flash having an audio delay, can anyone help me out?
[20:23] <AlanBell> if it actually makes a difference, then edit the grub config file so it does it every time you boot up
[20:23] <NetRunnerBlack> What's the ctrl + command to pull up the dir on a file?
[20:23] <NetRunnerBlack> On unity, for copy paste purposes.
[20:23] <vg> escott: this is the command for add in the last line?
[20:23] <vg>  acpi_backlight=vendor
[20:24] <Satyr> Hey guys I have an issue with Flash having an audio delay, can anyone help me out?
[20:24] <escott> vg, there are a number of ones to try. that is one of them https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[20:26] <vg> escott: i cant understand a lot this article ,
[20:26] <escott> vg, make sure you have a working livecd/liveusb whenever messing with grub or the kernel
[20:27] <herpmeprease> So I reboot and I get beeeeeeeep beep beep
[20:27] <vg> escott: i do this in to the liveusb?
[20:27] <sharpK> Guys, best VNC server for ubuntu?
[20:28] <vg> escott: no in the common install?
[20:28] <escott> vg, no. but you should have one as a backup in case what you do messes up your boot
[20:29] <randomusr> What's a decent app for creating flow charts in Ubuntu? Tried openoffice draw and writer, but they bite.
[20:29] <Marne> msg nickserv identify marnecarne
[20:29] <vg> escott: ive got open grub (/etc/default) what i need do?
[20:29] <escott> randomusr, how big a flowchart? and how much do you want to be customizing layout
[20:29] <Satyr> Hey guys I have an issue with Flash having an audio delay, can anyone help me out?
[20:29] <vg> escott: add un last line what command?
[20:30] <escott> vg, you can add the acpi_backlight=vendor in the same line that has the splash and root arguments
[20:30] <lnxslck> i installed kubuntu and then ubuntu desktop
[20:30] <escott> vg, but be careful not to mess up the existing arguments while doing this
[20:30] <lnxslck> when ubuntu loads i get the kubuntu theme, can i change it to ubuntu?
[20:31] <herpmeprease> Its an m2n sli board with an evga 8600
[20:31] <vg> escott: it is difficult...i dont know what to do...
[20:31] <escott> vg, i'
[20:31] <randomusr> escott, something similar to the charts in MS office. How big and customization are subjective. That said, I hope to create a flow chart with pointers to the next level
[20:32] <escott> vg, im not sure how else to explain it. you want to add this argument to the arguments the kernel is currently being given
[20:32] <escott> randomusr, but how bit. 10 nodes, 100 nodes, 1000 nodes?
[20:33] <escott> vg, the current line looks like splash quiet root=uuid something something, you want it to be splash quiet acpi_backlight=vendor root=uuid something something
[20:33] <Satyr> Grr can anyone help me out
[20:33] <randomusr> escott, i'm not sure I understand the context you're using. I only want a graphical chart to show relationship of components within and application.
[20:34] <escott> randomusr, a flow chart has nodes, how many nodes will your flowchart be? how many components are there? do you want to be able to manually position them or not
[20:34] <randomusr> escott, if by nodes you mean how many boxes; then probably up to 13 at most
[20:34] <randomusr> oops
[20:34] <randomusr> escott, yes manually positioning is desired.
[20:35] <randomusr> escott, any recommendations based on that?
[20:36] <DeltaEpsilon> any one knows of an applicaiton that can display lyrics of a song on my screen?
[20:36] <Satyr> Could osmeone please help me out?
[20:36] <randomusr> Satyr, what version of ubuntu and flash are you using?
[20:36] <escott> randomusr, you didn't like libreoffice. you could try dia, but you might not like that anymore. if you just want better graphics you might try something with latex metapost or latex pstricks
[20:36] <escott> randomusr, what was it you didnt like about libreoffice
[20:36] <ThinkT510> DeltaEpsilon: i know exaile has a lyrics tab that works for me
[20:37] <Satyr> 11.10 ubuntu, with KXStudio installed, as well as flash version <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:37] <escott> randomusr, you could also try drawing it with the gimp
[20:38] <randomusr> escott, I'm using openoffice, not libreoffice though I understand that they are very similar. When I attempt to insert a chart it's simply a basic chart without tying nodes together... A bit more manual
[20:38] <ThinkT510> Satyr: flash 10 on 11.10? flash 11 is in the repos
[20:39] <Satyr> Well I am using chromium..
[20:39] <Satyr> I don't no
[20:39] <Satyr> know
[20:39] <Satyr> How can I remove flash as a whole and reinstall it
[20:39] <escott> randomusr, any of these customizing layout approaches will be very manually intensive. if you want to just specify the graph structure and have a program make something sensible from it then use graphviz
[20:39] <dj_who> hi, i have problem with DVB-T signal is good enough but i can't watch tv picture is "scrambled"
[20:39] <ThinkT510> !flash | Satyr
[20:40] <randomusr> escott, thank you, I will try graphviz
[20:40] <DeltaEpsilon> I would like to use wordpress/joomla for my website. but I am not sure how safe they are. any one has an idea?
[20:40] <DeltaEpsilon> any suggestion?
[20:41] <kb0odu> DeltaEpsilon: Both are written in php and will need patching/updating as new versions come out.
[20:42] <kb0odu> DeltaEpsilon: They also have different purposes - Wordpress is more for personal blogging and Joomla is more for a community / group site.  You should see which one fits in with your needs better.
[20:42] <Zippoblur> Hi
[20:43] <Zippoblur> :-)
[20:43] <randomusr> Satyr, I would use flash with Firefox and the adobe flash plugin (non-free) version. No need to pay for this as non-free refers to licensing. You may want to ensure the latest version of pulseaudio
[20:44] <escott> vg, how are things going
[20:44] <ThinkT510> randomusr: he left
[20:44] <dj_who> any one can help with my dvb-t problem
[20:44] <dj_who> ?
[20:44] <vg> escott: im nothing , its very difficult for me
[20:45] <ThinkT510> vg: you can do it, we believe in you
[20:45] <Zippoblur> I love ubuntu
[20:45] <escott> vg, its hard for us to help if you are silent. so if you want us to check your work you can send the proposed modifications to the file to paste.ubuntu.com
[20:45] <vg> jaja ...no its a joke...im turn crazy with commands...
[20:46] <KomiaPoika> hi