[13:53] <Aleo> Hello, anybody here I can ask a question?
[13:54] <trijntje> sure, ask away
[13:54] <Aleo> Thank you.   I am from the newly formed Ubuntu-scientist group:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuScientists/
[13:55] <Aleo> I have a question about multiple language for wiki
[13:55] <Aleo> We were thinking of having multiple language wiki for our group
[13:55] <Aleo> So I was searching for any group that would be handling 2 or 3 languages in the same wiki
[13:56] <Aleo> but could not find.   I wanted to ask if you know of any group that has multiple language wiki and / or mailing list?
[14:00] <phillip> Aleo: I think you should just creat a new wiki-page for every language, but I don't know an example
[14:01] <phillip> *create
[14:05] <Aleo> Thank you.   I think it would be difficult to handle many languages in the same wiki.
[14:05] <Aleo> Thank you for the advice and the information.   I really appreciate it.
[14:06] <phillip> Aleo: maybe you can also ask in #ubuntu-doc
[14:11] <Aleo> Excellent.   I will ask right away.   Thank you very much.


[01:46] <wo0f> is it normal to be gettings lots of UDP spam?
[01:46] <wo0f> see here: http://pastebin.com/LUm906Z2
[13:06] <zul> jamespage:  im doing CA catch up this morning
[13:13] <jamespage> zul, +1000
[13:13] <jamespage> needs goind
[13:14] <jamespage> matsubara, hate to ask but maas iso testing?
[13:15] <matsubara> jamespage, hi, sorry, today I have the CIAAS presentation and then can continue with the ISO testing.
[13:16] <matsubara> jamespage, today is the final beta freeze at 21utc, right?
[13:16] <jamespage> matsubara, yes
[13:16] <jamespage> trying to get it out the door right now
[13:16] <jamespage> beisner, are the maas tests something you could help out with?
[13:18] <moza> Hello, I am having problems connecting to my svn server for all repositories access which permissions are handled by apache. I'm unsure where to look for errors
[13:25] <jamespage> zul, bug 1297705
[13:26] <jamespage> we should probably SRU the fix for that as well
[13:26] <zul> jamespage:  agreed
[13:27] <beisner> jamespage:  yep, planning on it.
[13:28] <jamespage> matsubara, beisner: ok - so need to happen in the next couple of hours if possible please
[13:29] <beisner> jamespage, matsubara - i can dedicate the morning to plowing through those, starting in appx 30 min.
[13:31] <caribou> rbasak: FYI, it's online now : https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/cloud-images-and-uvtool.html
[13:35] <zul> jdstrand: *cough* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/heat/+bug/1267557 *cough*
[13:37] <zul> jamespage:  ok python-oslotest good to go...ill update the new python-oslo.messaging today
[13:39] <zul> jamespage:  also for those playing along at home https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pbr/+bug/1298384
[13:42] <jamespage> zul, thats a CA issue inly right?
[13:42] <jamespage> zul, excellent - thanks for sorting this
[13:42] <zul> jamespage:  yeah i fixed it in the packaging and uploaded it to the trusty archive so we can sync it back over
[13:42] <jamespage> zul, ah - nice
[13:43] <jdstrand> zul: I know :)
[13:44]  * jdstrand notes that the security team is crazy busy getting pulled in every direction and doing the best we can :)
[13:44] <jdstrand> I'm working on the juju-core/golang stuff now
[13:45] <zul> jdstrand:  oh i know...its like that for everyone :)
[13:45] <jdstrand> it is, for sure
[13:45] <zul> jdstrand:  *snicker* heat is more important ;)
[13:45] <jdstrand> just know I haven't forgotten
[13:46] <zul> jamespage:  when you get a chance can you do dh-python, im not comfortable with it
[13:46] <jamespage> zul, syre
[13:56] <jamespage> zul, oh - we need to sort xen as well
[13:57] <zul> jamespage:  im on it
[13:57] <jamespage> zul, qemu will need a rebuild afterwards
[13:57] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[13:57]  * jamespage hugs zul
[13:57] <smb> zul, jamespage "sort" in what way?
[13:57] <zul> the LDFLAGS stuff again
[13:57] <smb> oh _that_ :/
[13:58] <zul> smb:  yes that :P
[13:58] <jamespage> smb, zul: anyway we can have that in the trusty packaging so it becomes a no-change backport again?
[13:59] <zul> jamespage:  it was never a no-change backport
[13:59] <jamespage> ok scrub again
[13:59] <jamespage> " so it becomes a no-change backport"
[13:59] <zul> there is a line in the debian/control which made it fail everytime
[13:59] <jamespage> ah
[13:59] <zul> yeah i can possibly do that
[13:59] <smb> Hm, I suppose we could but then we would differ from Debian
[13:59] <jamespage> oh
[14:01] <smb> zul, If it is wanted I can add stuff to the update I am currently working on. Just let me know
[14:01] <zul> smb: its the "Built-Using: ${misc:Built-Using}" line that causes it to fail on 12.04
[14:01] <zul> smb:  oh i will
[14:02] <zul> smb:  im not sure what that line does
[14:02] <smb> zul, Ohm I thought it was the need to unset LDFLAGS
[14:03] <zul> smb:  not sure
[14:05] <smb> zul, The built-using I think gets replaced by some stuff (qemu/seabios versions) I think. But that I would not remove in the T packaging
[14:06] <zul> smb:  okies
[14:06] <zul> smb: its too late to see if it breaks anything
[14:07] <smb> zul, Too late? I suppose for a current upload
[14:07] <zul> smb:  perhaps
[14:07] <evilbug> i'm not very familiar with firewall software on linux but i'm thinking of installing shoreline on my ubuntu 12.04 home server. would that be a good choice or no?
[14:07] <smb> zul, I meant was that a question or statement?
[14:10] <smb> zul, For a certain amount of gratuity in May I can have a look at a precise sbuild of the trusty package I am working on ... :)
[14:11] <zul> smb:  statement
[14:12] <rbasak> caribou: nice! Thank you for all your work. I really appreciate it since I hate writing docs :)
[14:12] <caribou> rbasak: we all do; but in this case it gave me the opportunity to get up to speed with uvtool rapidly
[14:15] <jamespage> smb, while we have your ear
[14:15] <jamespage> can you tell me what caused the tainted message in the last comment of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iscsitarget/+bug/1291641
[14:15] <smb> jamespage, No! I still need those
[14:16] <jamespage> I'm sure its something iscsitarget is doing wrong but I can't figure out what
[14:16] <jamespage> smb, :-)
[14:19] <smb> jamespage, That should just be a result of having module signing. As iscsitarget is a dkms module it cannot be signed by the same key as the rest of the kernel (because that gets thrown away after build)
[14:35] <zul> jamespage:  xen uploaded to the ppa
[14:43] <jamespage> zul: great!
[14:43] <zul> jamespage:  looking at mongo next
[14:44] <jamespage> there is a branch for mongo
[14:44] <zul> oh there is?
[14:44] <zul> hehe...telegram for mongo
[14:46] <zul> sorry candygram
[14:46] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive/
[14:46] <jamespage> precise-icehouse branch
[14:47] <jamespage> you should be able to bzr merge ubuntu:mongodb
[14:48] <zul> ack
[15:02] <jrwren> is there a uvtool for lxc ?
[15:02] <jamespage> zul, dh-python done
[15:03] <zul> jamespage:  thanks...mongodb is building locally for me now
[15:03] <jamespage> zul, takes a while
[15:04] <zul> jamespage:  i noticed that the last one ftbfs...at least the amd64 one did
[15:18] <rbasak> jrwren: no. I'd like to write on at some point, though.
[15:18] <rbasak> one
[15:18] <rbasak> uvt-lxc, to work in the same way for the parameters that make sense
[15:19] <rbasak> uvt-simplestreams-file, to maintain a local store of cloud image tarballs
[15:19] <rbasak> (and eventually deprecate calling uvt-simplestreams-file and uvt-simplestreams-libvirt directly, instead making it an automatic step of calling uvt-kvm and uvt-lxc when necessary)
[15:22] <jrwren> rbasak: let me know if/how I can help
[15:22] <smb> zul, Oh, btw as you have not yet uploaded the new libvirt for T, wait a bit longer. I would have a replacement which is fresh(er) and shiny. :)
[15:24] <zul> smb: okies
[15:31] <foo357_> Hello, I have two ubuntu machines (a client and a server). The server synch's it's accounts over to the client through sync-accounts. I have a pair of accounts defined on the server which I want to keep from being updated, how do I do that?
[15:31] <foo357_> On the client I have assigned these accounts to a special group, and that is subsequently lost when the server synchs and doesn't know of this information.
[16:10] <zul> jamespage/coreycb: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/0.7.1/+merge/213100
[16:10] <jamespage> zul, usptream
[16:10] <zul> fuck
[16:11] <zul> jamespage:  fixed
[16:11] <jamespage> zul, language timothy!
[16:14] <zul> jamespage:  damn it, it should be in that branch now
[16:21] <jamespage> zul, does that need a ffe? its a major version bump
[16:26] <beisner> jamespage:  maas testcases -> contain deprecated commands (filed documentation merge proposal), and 1+ failed subtest in the testcase, which is actuall 10 testcases.
[16:28] <sander^work> After upgrading to unbuntu 12.04.. I got a notice that I need to run a phpmyadmin script called create_table.sql to give access to a database for extended features.. I have no idea where that script is located.
[16:29] <jamespage> beisner, nice work - thanks for working through those
[16:29] <sander^work> I did an updatedb.. and a locate.. nowhere to be found.
[16:35] <smb> zul, New shiny libvirt for T uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~smb/+archive/xen/+packages (though not build there, yet). Worked quite nicely for a T desktop install. Though I really wonder how desktop always manager to f*** err fail on some things.
[16:35] <thedanielmatt> you could try “find"
[16:36] <thedanielmatt> @sander^work may try something like “sudo find / -type f -name “scriptname””
[16:36] <zul> smb: ack ill get to it today or tom
[16:36] <smb> zul, roger that
[16:37] <sander^work> thedanielmatt, no result
[16:37] <thedanielmatt> maybe take off the “-type f"
[16:38] <pmatulis> sander^work: i think package 'libapq-postgresql3.2.0-dev' provides '/usr/share/doc/libapq-postgresql3.2.0-dev/examples/create_table.sql'
[16:39] <beisner> jamespage, matsubara - i plan to run those to ground today (maas iso tests) and submit testcase updates (syntax/cli etc) as needed.
[16:39] <pmatulis> version number may be different.  that's on saucy
[16:39] <pmatulis> sander^work: ↑
[16:40] <sander^work> thedanielmatt, still no result. Really wondering of the upgrade did take with itself the right scripts. Maybe the maintainer forgot it or something.
[16:41] <thedanielmatt> sander^work: check out what pmatulis said
[16:41] <sander^work> pmatulis, it's mysql.
[16:42] <pmatulis> sander^work: maybe phpmyadmin says stuff that doesn't make sense on debian/ubuntu
[16:43] <pmatulis> sander^work: apt-file told me you can get that script with that package
[16:44] <sander^work> pmatulis, I think that's a coinsidence. That postgresql script has nothing to do with phpmyadmin.
[16:45] <pmatulis> sander^work: ok.  can you tell what package is the origin of the message you saw?
[16:46] <pmatulis> sander^work: maybe pastebin the entire line, plus a few lines before and after
[16:48] <sander^work> pmatulis, http://pastebin.com/Mb4vXHJb
[16:49] <sander^work> pmatulis, it basicly displays an notice about it, for enabling extra features inside phpmyadmin.
[16:50] <sander^work> pmatulis, i'm fine with disabling those extra features aswell I guess.. But I dont know how.
[16:51] <pmatulis> sander^work: so you see it within the php interface?
[16:51] <sander^work> pmatulis, yep.
[16:51] <pmatulis> sander^work: ha
[16:53] <pmatulis> sander^work: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-883135-start-0.html
[16:54] <pmatulis> sander^work: if that doesn't push you forward, please see the phpmyadmin folks.  i see you are in #phpmyadmin
[17:08] <zul> Daviey: ping python-oslotest is still in binary new can you punt it out of there? please
[17:10] <Daviey> zul, are you sure it is there?
[17:10] <Daviey> ah yea.
[17:12] <checkit> Hey guys, on my centos box I can serv sites from http://hostname/~username. How can I do this from my ubuntu box with apache2?
[17:13] <jrwren> that is called userdirs
[17:14] <jrwren> i'm pretty sure its default in ubuntu apache
[17:14] <zul> Daviey:  if im stuck in an alternate universe then yes
[17:14] <checkit> jrwren: I'm migrating from CentOS so there are some minute differences that I'm trying to overcome.
[17:14] <zul> checkit:  mdir -p public_html in the users home directory and make sure its 755
[17:14] <checkit> jrwren: It doesn't seem to be defaulted.
[17:15] <checkit> zul: What is mdir?
[17:15] <checkit> you mean mkdir
[17:16] <zul> yes
[17:16] <checkit> I'm getting Forbidden error with permission denied... Do I need to add something to my vhosts?
[17:31] <cuddylier> I had a DDoS attack yesterday on a Ubuntu box I have. Here is the screenshot of the bandwidth graph: http://puu.sh/7LCFB.png Does outbound mean someone on the box sent the attack out rather than the actual box being DDoSed?
[17:32] <w0rmie> Be
[17:34] <Havenstance2> cuddylier, has this been answered yet?
[17:35] <cuddylier> Havenstance2 No
[17:36] <Havenstance> okay some backgrounds on networking, when something comes to your machine from outside its logged and called Inbound connections, when something is sent out its outbound
[17:36] <Havenstance> alot like your phone, you call someone its outbound call, they call you its inbound
[17:37] <Havenstance> what this graph shows me is that someone initiated a DDoS attack from your machine starting at approx 23:40 and lasting until just after 00:00 so approximately 20 minutes long
[17:37] <Havenstance> might not even have been DDos, is this a gateway machine? like does it server your network?
[17:38] <Havenstance> cuddylier, I have seen Bit Torrent clients do this to bandwith too so if its a torrent box or has torrent client on it someone may have downloaded something
[17:39] <Havenstance> if its a network server then someone within the network may have downloaded something
[17:39] <jrwren> cuddylier: do you have any per udp port charts to go with that?
[17:39] <cuddylier> Havenstance: It's a box for game hosting but I can't see anything in my game panel logs that indicate someone started a java process that was sending out traffic.
[17:39] <jrwren> cuddylier: do you run DNS or NTP on that server?
[17:39] <cuddylier> jrwren: No the datacentre only provide charts like that
[17:39] <cuddylier> jrwren Neither
[17:40] <Havenstance> cuddylier, yeah because a spike like that indicates that its sending a tremendous amount of data somewhere
[17:40] <jrwren> cuddylier: cloud backups?
[17:40] <cuddylier> I don't do backups no
[17:40] <cuddylier> I however download files
[17:41] <cuddylier> The thing is this floods the network port and the server becomes unaccessible
[17:41] <cuddylier> Could downloading a file really cause that?
[17:41] <cuddylier> It has a 100Mb/s port
[17:41] <jrwren> cuddylier: are you SURE you arne't running dns or ntp?
[17:41] <cuddylier> Yes, at least I didn't install it and the box is secure.
[17:42] <Havenstance> cuddylier, if your running BitTorrent on it the explanation would be a seeding torrent that someone suddenly wanted was uploaded somewhere
[17:42] <jrwren> you'll have to give us a lot more info for help then :)
[17:42] <Havenstance> downloading would be INBOUND traffic
[17:42] <Havenstance> Uploading is always outbound
[17:42] <cuddylier> Havenstance: Never installed any bittorrent client on it.
[17:42] <jrwren> Havenstance: depends on point of view.
[17:42] <Havenstance> download=taking in upload = sending out
[17:43] <jrwren> downloading from that server is sending out.
[17:43] <jrwren> from that server POV.
[17:43] <Havenstance> true
[17:44] <Havenstance> cuddylier, is this chart from the machine itself or from the hosting company?
[17:44] <cuddylier> The hosting company
[17:44] <w0rmie> Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done.
[17:44] <w0rmie> Begin: Mounting root file system ... /init: .: line 249: can't open '/scripts/live'
[17:44] <w0rmie> [ 12.991289] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemped to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200
[17:44] <w0rmie> [ 12.991289]
[17:45] <Havenstance> cuddylier, could be a DDoS attack, can you have your hosting company change the machine IP?
[17:45] <w0rmie> any idea?
[17:46] <jrwren> how could it be DDoS?
[17:47] <jrwren> the spikes are on outbound on that chart. cuddylier said the server is secure, so its not large file downloads.
[17:47] <jrwren> if there is no NTP and no DNS, its not likely used in  reflection attack.
[17:47] <jrwren> it could be ANYTHING.
[17:48] <Havenstance> I've seen similar charts on my server from DDoS. but it could be something as simple as an update too
[17:48] <Havenstance> well, no not even on outbound
[17:49] <Havenstance> basically you need to provide more data then a link to a graph that can't readily be interpreted
[17:55] <cuddylier> jrwren: Well when I say secure, no one can start a process outside a java process as box is used in my hosting company which allows people to use any jar file.
[17:57] <jrwren> someone ran a jar that did a bunch of xfer then :p
[17:57] <TJ-> cuddylier: That graph looks like there's a low inbound  causing a large outbound - resolution isn't great but it looks to me as if the inbound increases roughly in line with the peak in outbound
[17:58] <TJ-> cuddylier: Have you examined *all* the logs for entries within that time bracket for anything 'unusual' ?
[17:58] <jrwren> what is this hosts IP?
[17:58] <cuddylier> TJ- Which log entries exactly?
[17:58] <TJ-> cuddylier: *all* logs
[17:58] <cuddylier> I'm not the best with knowing which log is which.
[17:59] <TJ-> cuddylier: You've got a narrow time boundary (23:30 through 00:10) so you should look at that time period in all logs, especially towards the beginning when it began
[18:01] <cuddylier> So just /var/logs yeah?
[18:02] <TJ-> cuddylier: The peak ratio was 28.56 (60.55/2.12) - that might give a clue as to what kind of issue you're dealing with, if it is a reflection attack
[18:03] <TJ-> cuddylier: Mostly, but as we don't know the precise server config there might be other log locations, especially if it's a Java application server/container (e.g. JBoss or Tomcat)
[18:03] <cuddylier> I just have normal Oracle java
[18:03] <cuddylier> Running normal jar files
[18:04] <cuddylier> Two of my nodes did the same thing at the same time exactly.
[18:05] <TJ-> cuddylier: what's the application? Maybe it has a flaw that allows reflection or something similar.
[18:05] <cuddylier> TJ- Usually minecraft server jars.
[18:05] <cuddylier> Although technically people can use any jar
[18:05] <cuddylier> That isn't necessarily minecraft.
[18:05] <cuddylier> So people could technically run booters or bitcoin mine
[18:05] <cuddylier> But only people who have paid for a server can.
[18:05] <cuddylier> So I just need a way to find and terminate them.
[18:06] <TJ-> I could create a similar graph just sending repeated HTTP "GET / HTTP/1.0" requests if the index page is large
[18:07] <TJ-> cuddylier: Sounds like first thing is to implement some instrumentation, and possibly some bandwidth limiting and alerting
[18:07] <cuddylier> That's easier said than done however
[18:09] <TJ-> That's what sysadmins are for :)
[18:42] <checkit> Hey guys, rookie problem... Internal Server Error when trying to access http://localhost/~user. My userdir.conf file https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9814939 and my vhost file for the site: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9815001
[18:44] <sarnold> checkit: I suspect you've got <directory> and <location> confused: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#directory
[18:44] <sarnold> checkit: there may be more errors, I'm not an apache expert by any stretch..
[18:45] <checkit> I get the Internal Server Error when I got to http://localhost/~user/public. I do get a directory listing when I just go to http://localhost/~user
[18:45] <checkit> But the public directory isn't there...
[18:45] <checkit> I do see it in the filesystem though
[19:03] <TJ-> checkit: ~user will resolve to /home/$USER/public_html/
[19:04] <checkit> TJ-: Right.
[19:05] <TJ-> checkit: So any file-system files/dirs should be under that *and* have permissions allowing access to the user and the httpd daemon, as appropriate
[19:06] <checkit> That part is all done.
[19:07] <TJ-> checkit: So anything under ~/public_html/ should show up, unless you've got additional restrictions in-place in the apache configuration
[19:08] <jbradfield> I'm trying to install 12.04.4 server on a machine behind a firewall, is there a way to get it to stop insisting that I connect to the archive server?
[19:09] <jbradfield> Like I have the thing completely disconnected from the network and it still finds the adapter, tries to connect, fails, and complains about it and doesn't let me just install from disc
[19:14] <sarnold> jbradfield: can you tell the installer to skip networking configuration?
[19:16] <jbradfield> I can't find an option to do so
[19:16] <jbradfield> even if I run the installer in expert mode there's not even an option to actually do anything installation related until I set up a connect and download installer components
[19:17] <jbradfield> I figured there had to be another image for fully offline installation but can't find that either
[19:17] <jbradfield> swear there used to be
[19:25] <jbradfield>  /j ubuntu
[19:25] <jbradfield> crap
[19:27] <qman__> jbradfield: you are correct that it used to work without being online, did you try interrupting the dhcp and then choosing do not configure the network at this time?
[19:28] <qman__> or unplugging your network cable to achieve a similar effect
[19:29] <DeltaHeavy> Why isn't FHS followed more strictly? Apache and Nginx's document roots by default should be somewhere in /srv/ if I'm understnading FHS correctly?
[19:34] <bekks> DeltaHeavy: Because devs decided to not follow FHS at that point.
[19:35] <jbradfield> I'm trying it again with the cable physically disconnected
[19:35] <DeltaHeavy> bekks: It feels like it's all software. I've never used /srv/ in my life before just now.
[19:36] <shauno> I believe it's more an issue that the FHS can't be followed in that particular case.  the FHS defines /srv for this use, but doesn't define any layout below it
[19:36] <bekks> DeltaHeavy: On Ubuntu?
[19:37] <DeltaHeavy> bekks: Yep, mind you I was a CentOS/RHEL guy mainly before getting deep into webdev.
[19:37] <jbradfield> qman_: if I interrupt dhcp it still (somehow) connects the archive server and starts grabbing packages; if I completely unplug the network it asks me to specify the archive server, then complains that it can't find it (obviously) and won't let me continue
[19:38] <qman__> jbradfield: i mean that it needs to be unplugged before it gets to setting up the network
[19:38] <bekks> DeltaHeavy: My apologies - to both facts :P
[19:38] <qman__> jbradfield: what i think is happening is that once the network is configured, regargless of archive access, it assumes it should be online
[19:39] <jbradfield> I unplugged the machine before turning it on
[19:39] <qman__> jbradfield: but if the network is never configured to start, it should work offline
[19:39] <qman__> ok
[19:39] <jbradfield> it still finds two adapters, neither of which is plugged into anything
[19:40] <DeltaHeavy> bekks: Hey, nothing wrong with CentOS/RHEL :p
[19:41] <qman__> jbradfield: i haven't tried with .4 but that used to work from cd
[19:41] <qman__> jbradfield: however i have seen this when trying to install via usb
[19:41] <jbradfield> I'm doing the latter
[19:42] <qman__> usb for some reason refuses to work without a network connection, i never figured out why
[19:43] <jbradfield> well that's a headache considering only one of these boxes even has an optical drive
[19:44] <qman__> yeah, it is
[19:46] <TJ-> qman__: That sounds like an apt 'cdrom' vs 'file' URL  issue for access to the installation media pool
[19:46] <qman__> despite that it should be simple, lots of things don't work right booting from usb, i keep a usb dvd around because of it
[19:47] <ilhami> hey
[19:47] <ilhami> anybody here?
[19:49] <ilhami> how can I stress test my server?
[19:49] <checkit> Guys, if I used apache2en userdir how can I disable it?
[19:50] <qman__> ilhami: 'stress' is a package designed to do that
[19:50] <ilhami> qman__ haha is it called "stress"?
[19:51] <TJ-> checkit: "a2dismod"
[19:55] <Valduare> hi guys - how many physical servers are needed for ubuntu cloud, maas, juju etc
[19:56] <ilhami> how can I test how many requests per sec my server can handle?
[19:57] <ilhami> I will use JMeter :D
[19:59] <jbradfield> guess I'm ordering an external dvd drive and not fixing this until next week
[20:00] <jbradfield> working from a usb optical drive but not from a usb flash drive is nuts
[20:01] <TJ-> jbradfield: I'm about to test it here, just completing the ISO download... and going to have dinner
[20:53] <nxvl> Daviey: ping
[20:53] <nxvl> Daviey: does the list of packages that the ubuntu server team cares about still exists?
[20:54] <nxvl> or, where can i find the wiki page on where are the efforts going at this point of the release cycle
[22:00] <rostam> HI if I want to stop a service and it be persistent through reboot what should I do? for example: isc-dhcp-server ? thx
[22:03] <TJ-> rostam: Do you mean disable it?
[22:03] <sarnold> rostam: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#override-files
[22:03] <rostam> TJ yes disable it.
[22:03] <rostam> sarnold, thx
[23:39] <blizzow> How do I manually input DNS servers if I don't put them in /etc/resolv.conf?
[23:39] <sarnold> blizzow: what are you trying to do?
[23:40] <blizzow> I changed my server to a static IP (as most servers are), and manually changed /etc/resolv.conf.  Of course the resolv.conf says my changes will be overwritten, but doesn't explain where to manually enter DNS servers.
[23:40] <sarnold> blizzow: ah. that comes from the resolvconf infrastructure, which might make a lot less sense if you've got a static IP address
[23:40] <sarnold> blizzow: check out the resolvconf manpage, it ought to explain it all :)
[23:41] <blizzow> Seems like a good idea to put something in the default resolv.conf file about this...
[23:42] <sarnold> blizzow: chances are good you'll just apt-get purge resolvconf -- but read about it first and decide if that's the right approach :)
[23:44] <blizzow> Yeah, even putting "man resolvconf bro" in the default resolv.conf or "ohai, go add a dns-nameservers line to your /etc/network/interfaces file would be nice.
[23:44] <sarnold> lol
[23:44] <sarnold> agreed