[05:42] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: i don't even know what those are
[05:42] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes i'm here
[05:42] <dazjorz> carthik: aaaaaaaaa...allright.
[05:43] <XsupremeX> go to priv again
[05:43] <dazjorz> carthik: ;)
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: some are lighter on resources, some look different etc
[05:43] <carthik> dazjorz, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning
[05:43] <inthenow> which window manager is best in breezy? how do i unassign alt mouse commands. its interfering with blender
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: they are just other terminal emulators, like xterm or gnome-terminal
[05:43] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: i figured as much
[05:43] <Lethal-Rocks> inthenow, Window Managers arre a matter of preferance
[05:44] <carthik> kwikstah, some of them are transparent, some allow tabs, some have more preferences to play with etc
[05:44] <Lethal-Rocks> Anyone know how I can get IPv6 working in BitTornado?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: most things in *nix are like that - lots of choices :)
[05:44] <inthenow> in gnome, how do i unassign alt mouse commands except for the program i using in it. I think gnome is keyboard shortcut over configured
[05:44] <Lord_nikon> back with fags
[05:45] <Belutz> XsupremeX: u there?
[05:45] <holycow> oh lordy
[05:45] <XsupremeX> ya
[05:45] <neighborlee> I took the config file from current default kernel ubuntu installs with ( was in /boot) and tried to do 'make' but im getting a error and Idont see how thats possible ( with the 2.6.10 source I downloaded) ie: In file included from drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb.c:34:
[05:45] <neighborlee> drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb_priv.h:354:2: invalid preprocessing directive #defind ????
[05:45] <XsupremeX> dude
[05:45] <XsupremeX> other channel
[05:45] <holycow> copy paste from oo.o2 to other programs is working really quite great
[05:45] <Belutz> ic
[05:45] <linuxsbartley> We want to install Ubuntu Server, add our necessary apps and packages and then roll that up into a live CD.  Can anyone point to help on this?
[05:45] <Lethal-Rocks> inthenow, System, Preferences, windows
[05:45] <Belutz> :)
[05:45] <holycow> i managed to copy paste a graphic from oo.o2 to gimp even
[05:45] <holycow> weeeeird
[05:45] <Lord_nikon> indeed
[05:46] <Pyf> An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/sam/Desktop/Music'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root. actually it says that, how do i do that?
[05:46] <XsupremeX> Belutz?
[05:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes, i'm here, why don't you pm me?
[05:46] <inthenow> Lethal-Rocks: finally...thanks so much
[05:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: or let's just talk here
[05:46] <Lord_nikon> anyone know if the network bug in kubuntu is fixed on breezy
[05:47] <XsupremeX> hey umm so do i just copy that script and put it in system files?
[05:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[05:47] <XsupremeX> k
[05:47] <XsupremeX> in a text doc>
[05:47] <XsupremeX> ??
[05:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: copy it, run it, and you may delete it after that
[05:47] <XsupremeX> k
[05:48] <XsupremeX> umm also
[05:48] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yup
[05:48] <XsupremeX> do i copy the whole thing
[05:48] <XsupremeX> or
[05:48] <XsupremeX> just
[05:48] <carthik> linuxsbartley, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[05:48] <XsupremeX> the part at
[05:48] <XsupremeX> # Root Check
[05:48] <Belutz> XsupremeX: the whole thing
[05:48] <XsupremeX> ok
[05:48] <eukreign> anyone here have Ubuntu working on the new Dell 5100C ? i'm having trouble with the xserver
[05:48] <linuxsbartley> carthik, this is for customizing the existing ubuntu livecd we want to create a new livecd from a server install.
[05:49] <carthik> linuxsbartley, take some off, put some in and there you are....
[05:49] <carthik> linuxsbartley, a search should turn up more of what you want, i have read it at the forums before.
[05:49] <windex> hm. im having issues getting vesafb to work. whenever i specify a mode i get just a blank screen until X starts.
[05:49] <linuxsbartley> carthik, hmmm.  did not seem to work very well when we did it that way.
[05:50] <XsupremeX> for some reason it cant save
[05:50] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you could save it in your home directory
[05:50] <XsupremeX> ok
[05:50] <Lord_nikon> indeed
[05:51] <kwikstah> another question: how come when i tried to use apt-get to install eclipse-jdt, i got an error about some file being locked (sorry i don't have the err msg handy anymore), but when i tried doing it from synaptic pkgmgr, it installed without complaint
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> carthik, was hoping to find documentation on how the original live cd gets created so we could recreate that from a built system.
[05:51] <XsupremeX> now how do i run it?
[05:51] <reiki_work> kwikstah: you can't apt-get while synaptic is open (and vise versa
[05:51] <Belutz> XsupremeX: open a terminat and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)
[05:51] <kwikstah> more important question: when i run eclipse, i get an err. when i look in the logs, i see this at the top: !SESSION 2005-09-16 08:47:45.26 ------------------------------------------------
[05:51] <kwikstah> eclipse.buildId=
[05:51] <kwikstah> java.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4ubuntu6)
[05:51] <kwikstah> BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
[05:51] <kwikstah> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86
[05:51] <carthik> linuxsbartley, i dont know any better...
[05:51] <kwikstah> !ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2005-09-16 08:47:47.627
[05:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kwikstah
[05:51] <kwikstah> !MESSAGE /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins is not a valid plugins directory.
[05:51] <ubotu> that's too long, kwikstah
[05:51] <kwikstah> !ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 2005-09-16 08:47:54.818
[05:51] <ubotu> I don't know, kwikstah
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> carthik, k. thx.
[05:51] <kwikstah> !MESSAGE An error occurred while automatically activating bundle org.eclipse.core.resources (22).
[05:51] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, kwikstah
[05:52] <Belutz> dont paste here
[05:52] <XsupremeX> EEEK I CANT READ
[05:52] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:52] <Seveas> kwikstah, f* iff
[05:52] <Quinthius> does xchat not allow connects to multiple servers now? or where can i set that?
[05:52] <carthik> kwikstah, dont paste stuff here, please
[05:52] <Seveas> off even
[05:52] <Belutz> XsupremeX: open a terminal and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)
[05:52] <Lord_nikon> ah,vlc
[05:52] <XsupremeX> umm
[05:52] <XsupremeX> says command not found
[05:53] <deFrysk> Seveas, why not an autokick for people who paste more then 4 lines ?
[05:53] <Belutz> XsupremeX: where do you save the winmac_fstab ?
[05:53] <XsupremeX> i saved it in home
[05:53] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: not very noob friendly :)
[05:53] <Belutz> XsupremeX: try this then "sudo sh ./winmac_fstab"
[05:54] <XsupremeX> k
[05:54] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, true true :D
[05:54] <dazjorz> how to convert .BIN files to .ISO files ?
[05:54] <Belutz> XsupremeX: and make sure you are on your home directory
[05:54] <XsupremeX> says no such directory or file
[05:54] <dazjorz> I've got a .CUE, if that matters
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: did you save the file as winmac_fstab or other name?
[05:55] <setite-SFD> so what do you guys think of gentoo
[05:55] <thoreauputic> dazjorz:  bchunk
[05:55] <XsupremeX> o other name
[05:55] <Lord_nikon> good good
[05:55] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:55] <XsupremeX> i saved it as windowsferf
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: :)
[05:55] <mouse> Need: Howto make your Ubuntu computer to a perfect FTP server, someone that can help? /pm
[05:55] <XsupremeX> so just replace as that?
[05:55] <deFrysk> setite-SFD, nothing , this is not a gentoo channel
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yup
[05:55] <XsupremeX> k
[05:55] <XsupremeX> thnx
[05:55] <XsupremeX> ima try it now
[05:55] <setite-SFD> deFrysk - im just wondering what peoples opinions are... ive seen other os's discussed briefyly here many many times
[05:56] <Skaja> can some one help me with my forum post
[05:56] <D1> mouse, check out vsftpd
[05:56] <Skaja> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66202
[05:56] <Belutz> setite-SFD: never try it before, so i can't comment
[05:56] <XsupremeX> do i want to make the disks
[05:56] <XsupremeX> writable
[05:56] <D1> its pretty easy to setup and has lots of options
[05:56] <XsupremeX> by all users?
[05:56] <deFrysk> setite-SFD, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <thoreauputic> setite-SFD: probably more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[05:56] <XsupremeX> k
[05:56] <XsupremeX> k it says theyre mounted now
[05:56] <XsupremeX> so now how do i find them?
[05:57] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmm I forgot the command
[05:57] <matthews> hi -  is there a "preferred" place to download .bin files before executing, im a linux n00b here and ive downloaded realplayer and am not sure whether to execute it in my home directory ??
[05:57] <XsupremeX> shit... lol
[05:57] <Belutz> guys, what's the command for reloading the fstab?
[05:57] <Belutz> XsupremeX: i'm a n00b too actually :D
[05:57] <deFrysk> matthews, try the wiki for realplayer
[05:57] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Belutz: mount -a
[05:57] <XsupremeX> same here
[05:57] <XsupremeX> for linux
[05:57] <ui> how do i delete a directory?
[05:58] <deFrysk> !tell matthews about realplayer
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i wanted to start using it though
[05:58] <Answer> ui: man rmdir
[05:58] <XsupremeX> ooo
[05:58] <XsupremeX> nvm
[05:58] <ui> ok
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i found out
[05:58] <XsupremeX> how
[05:58] <Belutz> XsupremeX: there... type "sudo mount -a"
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i just used
[05:58] <ui> thanks answer
[05:58] <XsupremeX> file browser
[05:58] <XsupremeX> that works 2
[05:58] <Belutz> XsupremeX: great :) you could check it in /media/xxx
[05:58] <XsupremeX> :D thnx for the help Belutz
[05:59] <allen> wohoo!! got my sounds working! I muted "IEC958 Capture Monitor" in alsamixer
[05:59] <CarlFK> where is the right place to call a script on boot?
[05:59] <Belutz> XsupremeX: no worries mate :) welcome to the community :)
[05:59] <matthews> deFrysk - thanks for the tip - i'll try that :o)
[05:59] <Answer> Question: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive
[05:59] <XsupremeX> ^^
[05:59] <thoreauputic> allen: :)
[05:59] <LethAway`away> Does anyone know how to get BitTornado to work with IPv6?
[05:59] <Belutz> CarlFK: /etc/init.d perhaps ?
[05:59] <Seveas> CarlFK, /etc/rcS.d/
[05:59] <Belutz> CarlFK: go with what Seveas just said :)
[06:00] <Lord_nikon> later all,off to the football
[06:00] <LethAway`away> Anyone?
[06:00] <allen> Can Yahoo Messenger be played in Linux using Wine?
[06:00] <Seveas> no
[06:00] <dl> Hi, can anybody help me with an ubuntu installation question regarding disk partioning?
[06:00] <Seveas> !ask
[06:00] <Belutz> allen: i never get it to work
[06:00] <Skaja> where did s30setserial file go to
[06:00] <Seveas> !tell dl about ask
[06:01] <dl> Well, I get to the partition disk step, and I'm not sure what to do....
[06:01] <dl> I want to have dual boot...
[06:01] <dl> So I go to the manually edit partition table option...
[06:01] <Seveas> dl, windows already installed?
[06:01] <allen> :(
[06:01] <scanwinder> when i run "scantv" i get the following error: "vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] "        i cant seem to get it to use /dev/video0 which the device is...............anyone know how2 fix this?
[06:01] <dl> Seveas, Yes, lots of stuff that I need to keep.
[06:01] <deFrysk> allen, use gaim
[06:01] <Seveas> ok, already a few empty partitions/some empty space for linux?
[06:01] <dl> Anyway, I select the partition labelled #1 primary
[06:01] <scanwinder> i tried symlinking /dev/video0 to /dev/vbi
[06:01] <Belutz> allen: i fall in love with gaim :D
[06:01] <thoreauputic> allen: gaim can do yahoo I think
[06:01] <thespiritoftal> anyone who uses gmailfs here? I need help
[06:01] <dl> Seveas lots of empty space
[06:02] <Seveas> scanwinder, ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/vbi
[06:02] <Skaja> can some one help m with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66202
[06:02] <XsupremeX> weeee
[06:02] <swamplover> Help for a poor struggling newbie, please!  I changed screen resolution in x.org from 832x624 to 102424x 768 (running on standard 17" monitor), installed a lot of cool new stuff, (don't think there's any connection here, though), now can't setup nvidia-glx without reversing this. Any workarounds, please...?
[06:02] <XsupremeX> this is sweet
[06:02] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:02] <Seveas> dl, i meant unpartitioned space :)
[06:02] <allen> What does this mean? "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg."
[06:02] <dl> Seveas No, nothing unpartitioned.
[06:02] <deFrysk> !tell allen about resticted formats
[06:02] <dl> Seveas I wanted to use part of the ntfs partition.  Is that possible?
[06:02] <Belutz> XsupremeX: what is it? :D
[06:02] <scanwinder> seveas: ive tried that already
[06:02] <XsupremeX> i found all my files
[06:03] <XsupremeX> cept my desktop files
[06:03] <Seveas> dl, then find the 'make room for ubuntu' or 'resize ntfs partition' option
[06:03] <XsupremeX> but ill find those 2
[06:03] <XsupremeX> so no worrys
[06:03] <XsupremeX> :D
[06:03] <Seveas> don't know its exact name
[06:03] <Belutz> XsupremeX: great :)
[06:03] <Seveas> but you cannot use part of the ntfs partition, you need to shrink it and create new partitions
[06:03] <deFrysk> allen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:03] <allen> thanks
[06:03] <dl> Seveas I can't seem to find out how to shrink the partition.  I guess I don't know which option.  I'll look through some more and see if I can find anything.
[06:04] <kandinski> I am installing ubuntu on an oldish laptop (300 Mhz Celeron with 64 M ram)
[06:04] <deFrysk> kandinski, run it with xfce4
[06:04] <deFrysk> as wm
[06:04] <kandinski> any advice on performance and disk footprint? (it also has 4Gb, of which about half will have to be reserved for dualbooting win 98 and documents)
[06:05] <kandinski> deFrysk: thanks. but it is for my "no I don't know computers" friend
[06:05] <dl> Seveas if I move the cursor to the line that shows my ntfs partition and press enter, I get a screen that shows the partition attributes, including size.  When I click on the Size though, it doesn't seem to give me an option to change it.
[06:05] <deFrysk> kandinski, ubuntu needs 2 gigs minimum
[06:05] <kandinski> he is only letting me do this because I told him it was the last time I would emergency-fix his computer if he kept it on win98 only
[06:05] <Answer> Question: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive
[06:05] <dl> Seveas, the screen says "Before the resize operation takes place ...", but there is no way to change it that I see.
[06:06] <Seveas> deFrysk, standard install takes 1.2GB
[06:06] <XsupremeX> Found desktop icons and old files
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: 64 MB is not enough for gnome
[06:06] <XsupremeX> :D
[06:06] <kandinski> can't you have a lighter, smaller ubuntu otherwise than by removing stuff post-install?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: sure
[06:06] <kandinski> ok, I will run it with xfce4, this will actually be good for me
[06:06] <deFrysk> seveas forgot about swap
[06:06] <kandinski> thanks thoreauputic
[06:06] <kandinski> great nick too!
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: you have to do a server install, then add stuff
[06:07] <thoreauputic> kandinski: it requires that you be comfortable with apt-get
[06:07] <Myrtti> kwikstah wants to get the ban off
[06:07] <kandinski> I am confortable with apt-get all right
[06:07] <Myrtti> he'll behave good this time
[06:07] <kandinski> but this laptop only has a modem
[06:07] <swamplover> Help for a poor struggling newbie, please! Running ubuntu hoary on a standard 17" monitor, changed resolution in xorg.conf from 832x624 to 1024x768, now can't set up nvidia-glx without undoing this!  Any workarounds, please...?
[06:08] <eno> general question: when does Breezy get released?
[06:08] <deFrysk> kandinski, you'll do fine then make sure to keep it light (no OO.o)
[06:08] <Quinthius> eno: mid octoboer
[06:08] <Myrtti> 13th Oct
[06:08] <kandinski> I should go out and get him a pcmcia card
[06:08] <eno> thanks!
[06:08] <LethAway`away> swamplover, undo it, and redo it afterwards
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kandinski: then do a server install, then sudo apt-get x-window-system-core gdm xterm xfce4
[06:08] <kandinski> deFrysk: I am afraid then he will have to do without: OO.o is his toolchain
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kandinski: then add stuff ad-lib
[06:08] <kandinski> thoreauputic: check
[06:09] <thoreauputic> kandinski: like sylpheed for mail, dillo  browser
[06:09] <deFrysk> kandinski, absolutelu , try abiword
[06:09] <thoreauputic> both light
[06:09] <thoreauputic> yes abiword
[06:09] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes?
[06:09] <deFrysk> absolutely*
[06:09] <XsupremeX> do you know why my computer is moving so slow?
[06:09] <XsupremeX> since using ubuntu
[06:09] <digitize> XsupremeX: gnome? :>
[06:09] <carthik> HrdwrBoB, can you please unban kwikstah - sorry if this request is inappropriate or youre busy or something :)
[06:09] <thoreauputic> kandinski: firefox will run, but it satrats slowly on a 64MB box
[06:09] <thoreauputic> *starts
[06:09] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmmm don't know about that, my computer running faster than my XP :p
[06:10] <dl> Can anybody tell me how to get to the "Resize partition" option when installing Ubuntu?
[06:10] <XsupremeX> o lol
[06:10] <digitize> XsupremeX: try out xfce
[06:10] <kandinski> dillo I will try, it is the only one I don't know about
[06:10] <digitize> it's a nice light desktop environment
[06:10] <XsupremeX> umm also
[06:10] <XsupremeX> i was wondering
[06:10] <deFrysk> kandinski, as an ugly alternative you could use the opera browser (static version)
[06:10] <XsupremeX> if i restart mycomputer
[06:10] <Belutz> yes xfce is nice
[06:10] <XsupremeX> and umm
[06:10] <thoreauputic> kandinski: dillo is lightning quick but limited
[06:10] <XsupremeX> will all my files and everything still be here?
[06:10] <XsupremeX> cuz this is a live cd
[06:10] <kandinski> this is a survival kit
[06:10] <XsupremeX> its not an actual Ubuntu
[06:10] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmmm i don't think so
[06:11] <kandinski> just so you know: this guy only uses webmail, so sylpheed is as out as thunderbird or evolution
[06:11] <XsupremeX> you dont think my files will be there?
[06:11] <Belutz> XsupremeX: maybe other people know the exact answer
[06:11] <allen> where can I find decoders to play mp3s, divx, xvid?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kandinski: OK - he will need firefox for webmail I would say
[06:11] <XsupremeX> Does any1 else know??
[06:11] <kandinski> he is a writer, he writes, does budgets on spreadsheet, surfs, uses webmail. That is his thing.
[06:11] <XsupremeX> if ur using a live cd
[06:11] <deFrysk> allen I gave you a link for restricted formats
[06:11] <XsupremeX> will ur files still be there when you reboot?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kandinski: dillo doesn't do ssl / https
[06:12] <kandinski> thoreauputic: thanks. dillo javascript support not good?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kandinski: non existent
[06:12] <XsupremeX> Does anyone here know?
[06:12] <kandinski> ok
[06:12] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:12] <Belutz> XsupremeX: what files you want to save ?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kandinski: still worth installing - it's tiny
[06:12] <XsupremeX> well like all of them
[06:13] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:13] <kandinski> thanks thoreauputic deFrysk, I see that Ubuntu will mostly be a survival kit for me to save his work in case of problems. Also for autopsy (the program, not the procedure).
[06:13] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you talking about files on your linux partition or on your windows partition?
[06:13] <deFrysk> lol kandinski
[06:13] <XsupremeX> windows
[06:13] <kandinski> if this guy weren't one of my closest friends I would be chucking him out on the street.
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: you there? what was that about a ban?
[06:13] <XsupremeX> like aim, warcraft, trillian etc
[06:13] <Belutz> XsupremeX: ow... it will stay there :D
[06:14] <XsupremeX> k
[06:14] <Belutz> XsupremeX: don't worry about it :)
[06:14] <XsupremeX> k
[06:14] <XsupremeX> also
[06:14] <XsupremeX> i cant run aim
[06:14] <XsupremeX> for some reason
[06:14] <XsupremeX> Couldn't display "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/aim.exe"
[06:14] <CarlFK> what I want to run on boot is pastebot - I think i need to run it in screen, and not as root.  is there an easy way, or do I figure out the su/screen commands?
[06:14] <Answer> XsupremeX: use gaim.
[06:14] <Belutz> aim.exe?
[06:14] <deFrysk> exe ?
[06:15] <deFrysk> lol
[06:15] <XsupremeX> yes that was the aim.exe
[06:15] <Answer> XsupremeX: use gaim
[06:15] <allen> ok will start from there
[06:15] <Belutz> XsupremeX: linux can't execute .exe files
[06:15] <XsupremeX> o
[06:15] <XsupremeX> well how do i launch them then?
[06:15] <Answer> XsupremeX: Use gaim.  Do not continue to ask about aim.exe here unless you are running a windows emulator...
[06:15] <deFrysk> those poor M$ heads
[06:15] <Belutz> XsupremeX: use gaim...
[06:15] <XsupremeX> umm
[06:15] <XsupremeX> what about
[06:15] <XsupremeX> warcraft?
[06:15] <XsupremeX> how do i run that...
[06:15] <XsupremeX> ??
[06:15] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:16] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you could use wine or cadega
[06:16] <deFrysk> cedega*
[06:16] <XsupremeX> umm whats that??
[06:16] <Answer> XsupremeX: Join the petitions for a port of Warcraft to Linux
[06:16] <gabberman> need help for ISA sound card installion? anyone?
[06:17] <Belutz> deFrysk: ths for the correction :)
[06:17] <XsupremeX> ima brb ima reboot the comp... cuz its running really slow....
[06:17] <pluffsy> hello (again)
[06:17] <osfameron> ffs, following instructions in !wine, IE setup still fails
[06:17] <XsupremeX> so  brb
[06:17] <osfameron> only it takes 30 minutes longer
[06:17] <osfameron> to get to that point, I mean
[06:17] <gabberman> anyone know the ISA terminal codes for installing an ISA sound CARD?
[06:17] <Myrtti> there you go
[06:17] <pluffsy> clicking on the trackpad is right now handled like a mouse left click. can I somehow remove this behavior?
[06:18] <Myrtti> kwikstah: have fun
[06:18] <pluffsy> The Mouse preferences don't provide any options for this (that I can see anyway)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: OK now?
[06:19] <Sudo> wazup
[06:19] <gabberman> Sound card help anyone??
[06:19] <kwikstah> hello, sorry about that
[06:19] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:19] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: I guess you won't do it again ;-)
[06:20] <kwikstah> yup, i won't
[06:20] <Sudo> does anyone know where to get the drivers for D-link DFM-562is? thanks
[06:20] <gabberman> sound card help anyone?
[06:21] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks
[06:21] <LethAway`away> Why hello tere
[06:21] <inthenow> how do i put flash in the web browser
[06:21] <inthenow> can i do it in the browser now?
[06:21] <CodeWarrior_> I'd like to know if there's somebody here that use Ubuntu PPC on OldWorld Macs G3 beige ?
[06:21] <erUSUL> !tell inthenow about flash
[06:22] <CodeWarrior_> nobody ?
[06:23] <LethAL-Rocks> CodeWarrior_, nope
[06:23] <allen> thanks guys! I have to go now.. I'll catch you tomorrow!
[06:23] <gabberman> I too need help
[06:23] <gabberman> :)
[06:23] <gabberman> heh
[06:23] <LethAL-Rocks> So do I
[06:23] <gabberman> heh
[06:23] <CodeWarrior_> yeah, I think so
[06:24] <dex> Hello everybody, is ubuntu 5.10 ok for a new user of linux like me?
[06:25] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, no no no no no!
[06:25] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, go back to Hoary
[06:25] <dex> Lethal_Rocks: but why?
[06:26] <dex> isn't it the latest ubuntu?
[06:26] <GoClick> How do I shutdown X, I keep trying to edit my xorg.conf from inside of it (it's trying to make my monitor do way too high of resolutions) and I make my edits save the file and then logout or restart and it's right back to the way it was, so I figure if I edit from a consol I'll be ok. But I don't know how to shutdown X, I tried killing x-session-manager and I got kicked out of my consol and back to the X login screen. So how do I exit X to a consol?
[06:26] <Rockett18> dex> it's still in development
[06:26] <pluffsy> dex: it's just a preview release
[06:26] <pluffsy> dex: I am new to ubuntu too and installed it, couldn't even get it log in. nothing worked for me.
[06:26] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, You can't really shut it down, but Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart it
[06:26] <^DodGeR^> howdy all
[06:26] <kwikstah> interesting. installation worked perfectly for me
[06:27] <GoClick> How can I boot to a consol?
[06:27] <tokenbad> I have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> You don't need to to change xorg.conf
[06:27] <dex> Hoary or woody?
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, hoary
[06:27] <CarlFK> woody?
[06:27] <dex> ok
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> CarlFK, Woody is an older release
[06:27] <GoClick> LethAL-Rocks what do I need to change? The resolution switcher isn't workinfg
[06:27] <GoClick> ignore that f
[06:28] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, one mo
[06:28] <erUSUL> GoClick: boot to single user mode in grub menu
[06:28] <tokenbad> anyone know?
[06:28] <steven_Laptop> some laptop help needed my friends :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66208
[06:29] <meuserj|work> When I try starting xchat using a Tor proxy, I get banned from #ubuntu... anyone here know why?
[06:29] <grodius> I'm on an HTTP proxy at school, and i'm looking for a way to run torrents, does anyone know how?
[06:29] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, Under sections "Screen"
[06:29] <miguel> hi
[06:29] <miguel> can some1 help me out'
[06:29] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, Chane the modes in each subsection
[06:29] <miguel> ?
[06:29] <swack> help!
[06:29] <darkheart> !helpme
[06:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:29] <miguel> i messed up with my winxp mbr
[06:29] <miguel> now i cannot boot win
[06:29] <thoreauputic> meuserj|work: I believe tor has been a source of bot problems and other evils
[06:29] <tokenbad> I have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?
[06:30] <miguel> how can I repair my mbr of my winxp hard drive from linux?
[06:30] <LethAL-Rocks> miguel, you can't
[06:30] <swack> I had mysql installed, but uninstalled & deleted mysql init script... now I'm reinstalling mysql, but the install fails b/c it can't find /etc/init.d/mysql
[06:30] <swack> shouldn't that be included in the install?
[06:30] <Answer> tokenbad:  sudo apt-get remove --purge proftp    then reinstall and it will prompt you
[06:30] <LethAL-Rocks> miguel, Windows CD, open recovery mode, then login and type fixmbr
[06:30] <swack> where can I get the init script
[06:30] <meuserj|work> thoreauputic, that blows.. people abusing it ruins it for everyone....
[06:30] <thoreauputic> meuserj|work: indeed
[06:31] <GoClick> LethAL-Rocks That's not my problem the problem is the xorg.conf file gets overwritten
[06:31] <LethAL-Rocks> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver I think
[06:32] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:33] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh, other way round :P
[06:33] <GoClick> It's the one that configured it this way to start :P
[06:33] <GoClick> The monitor is good to like 1900 x something but I'm not... I'm 1152x864 man
[06:33] <tokenbad> Answer, great..thanks
[06:34] <thoreauputic> !tell GoClick about fixres
[06:34] <grodius> What Can I get as far as a windows media equivalent in linux?
[06:34] <GoClick> I edited the config and did the ctr+shift+backspace thing but x closed and didn't restart
[06:34] <GoClick> grodius, totem
[06:34] <LethAL-Rocks> grodius, People try not to make apps that bad
[06:34] <philc> how can I see the services running on my machine, and how can I remove a service from startup? IIRC update-rc.d doesn't do this for you
[06:35] <GoClick> philc to see the services running go; ps aux | more
[06:35] <grodius> oh ok i got that
[06:35] <deFrysk> !tell philc about bum
[06:35] <grodius> goclick, what about inbrowser windows media?
[06:35] <ui> !tell me about bum
[06:35] <D1> WOW
[06:35] <GoClick> grodius That's I don't know
[06:35] <D1> banshee is in breezy
[06:35] <grodius> k
[06:36] <D1> awesomeness!
[06:36] <XsupremeX> lag
[06:37] <swack> any help on regenerating /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[06:37] <philc> deFrysk: very cool, need a CLI way tho
[06:37] <GoClick> philc there is a folder /etc/init.d/ where there are symlinks to stuff that runs on boot but then there are folders like /etc/rc5.d/ that have links to those links that get run when the machine starts in run level 5 or whatever the number is
[06:37] <philc> GoClick: ps aux isn't strictly services
[06:37] <GoClick> philc no it's eveything
[06:37] <GoClick> Would you like to explain the difference between a service and deamon and a program to me?
[06:38] <grodius> Anyone know how to set up sound drivers for an audigy card
[06:38] <dazjorz> any programs to manage .BIN (CD image) files in Ubuntu ?
[06:38] <darkheart> GoClick A daemon is a program that listens on a port for a request.
[06:38] <philc> GoClick: I'm worried less about what I explicitly ran by way of my desktop's session or what programs I'm using, and more by way of what is currently running that can be found in /etc/init.d
[06:38] <thoreauputic> GoClick: BTW the default runlevel in debian and ubuntu is 2, not 5 like RH or whatever
[06:39] <thoreauputic> type "runlevel" to see
[06:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anyone know how to make an extended partition? GParted doesn't seem to be able to do it :(
[06:39] <miguel> what is the linux equivalent to "fdisk /mbr" on a windows drive?
[06:40] <miguel> i thin I messed up my  2nd hard drive
[06:41] <philc> fyi apparently gentoo has rc-status to perform the task I mentioend
[06:41] <Hoxzer> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=tv-out+nvidia I used that guide but I started player in TV my mouse got there and I was not able to get it back
[06:41] <Hoxzer> how should I get it back?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> philc: rcconf or bum would be similar I guess (don't know gentoo)
[06:42] <XsupremeX> lag
[06:43] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[06:43] <XsupremeX> How do i unload all those windows files?
[06:43] <XsupremeX> cuz thats whats making me lag
[06:43] <XsupremeX> and if i wanna use them illjust get off linux later or something
[06:43] <XsupremeX> cuz i only have like 550 mg of free space... tahts why im lagging so bad....
[06:43] <tombs> hi ppl
[06:43] <Belutz> XsupremeX: "sudo umount /media/thename
[06:44] <XsupremeX> k thnx
[06:44] <XsupremeX> lol im lagging so much i cant even get to applications
[06:45] <XsupremeX> nvm i got it
[06:45] <XsupremeX> so i would do sudo umount /media/windowsferf
[06:45] <XsupremeX> right?
[06:45] <Belutz> no no
[06:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: go to /media
[06:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you'll see a list of directory
[06:46] <XsupremeX> then what?
[06:47] <philc> thoreauputic: you're a genious, rcconf is brilliant. Thanks
[06:47] <thoreauputic> philc: :)) you're welcome
[06:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: could you tell me the name of the directory?
[06:48] <dazjorz> humm-humm
[06:48] <dazjorz> does someone here knows a capturing program to capture the whole screen in a video file untill you press a certain key or something?
[06:48] <philc> how often are the breezy package repositories updated? Seems like I get 100 updates per day
[06:49] <philc> is every revision in those repos?
[06:49] <XsupremeX> k  sec
[06:49] <XsupremeX> im lagging like a bitch... i can barely do anything...
[06:49] <XsupremeX> and its not opening terminal cuz im lagging so much
[06:49] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:49] <dazjorz> shut off any programs you aren't currently using...
[06:50] <dazjorz> it'll help
[06:50] <thoreauputic> philc: some heavy bug squashing happening between now and release
[06:50] <ribbo> hi, just booted my Desktop machine (running Hoary_64). during boot says that it cannot access hardware clock... (Hmm, OK I thought)
[06:50] <ribbo> Now I cannot log in either, does not accept my password
[06:50] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: run "yop" and see what's eating  your resources
[06:50] <thoreauputic> bah
[06:50] <ribbo> is the bios clock used somehow when hashing a password?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> s/yop/top
[06:51] <dazjorz> hey dudes ? how to capture the screen into a video file ?
[06:51] <GoClick> ribbo well time changes so getting the same hash again would be impossible
[06:52] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty if you can't get a terminal, alt-F7 to return to X
[06:52] <GoClick> ribbo which password[s]  are you wondering about?
[06:52] <ribbo> GoClick: My login to the machine
[06:52] <ribbo> I have used Knoppix to edit /etc/shadow
[06:52] <ribbo> to remove the password for my account
[06:53] <ribbo> still no login
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ribbo: why??
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ribbo: that was silly
[06:54] <HumanPrototype> does anybody have any idea how to get ubuntu on a portable hdd to boot as if it is a usb-zip device?
[06:54] <x[trick] x> jsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso
[06:54] <ribbo> I did make a backup, remember that tis was after I tried many other things
[06:54] <thoreauputic> ribbo: boot in recovery mode and reset your passwd
[06:54] <x[trick] x> how will i start installing it?
[06:54] <ribbo> thoreauputic: did not work
[06:54] <thoreauputic> ribbo: is this breezy?
[06:54] <GoClick> ribbo most hashing methods do not produce a blank hash for a blank input and many will use a salt sometimes based on the username so two users with the same password will have a different hash
[06:54] <GoClick> ribbo is the issue you forgot your password?
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: forgot password? No
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: good thing I made a backup then
[06:55] <GoClick> Why are you messing with your password file then?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: can you ssh into this machine?
[06:55] <x[trick] x> whats the command to start intalling?
[06:55] <ribbo> well I cannot log in.
[06:55] <GoClick> But you just said you edited the file so you must be able to login as something
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: via Knoppix
[06:55] <GoClick> !ssh
[06:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[06:56] <grodius> Is there anything as good as photoshop for linux?
[06:56] <p0windah> heh
[06:56] <GoClick> ribbo are you sure you weren't editing the knoppix pass file?
[06:56] <ribbo> GoClick: yes I am
[06:56] <ribbo> just back to first sign of problems:
[06:56] <p0windah> doesnt really seem worth arguing... :)
[06:57] <grodius> Ive been using Gimp but it doesnt seem nearly as deep
[06:57] <grodius> to me at elast
[06:57] <grodius> im really used to PS tho
[06:57] <x[trick] x> jsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso. how can i start installing it??
[06:57] <ribbo> kernel cannt acceess hardware clock during bot
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ribbo,  what kind of machine ribbo ?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> grodius: try installing grokking the gimp
[06:57] <p0windah> I use gimp for small things and think I rock
[06:57] <darkheart> x[trick] x Did you have Ubuntu burned already? Cause you can just install kubuntu through apt-get.
[06:57] <thoreauputic> grodius: I forget the exact package name
[06:58] <p0windah> my friends who do it pro. laugh at me
[06:58] <ribbo> Whic is why i asked if it(the clock) is used when something is hashed
[06:58] <XsupremeX> dude if i cant access the terminal you think i could acses the internet.... lol
[06:58] <GoClick> ribbo perhaps Ubuntu and Knoppix use different hashing algs
[06:58] <ribbo> Dr_Willis: AMD_64
[06:58] <XsupremeX> GAA DAMN LAGG....... SO GAY
[06:58] <ribbo> GoClick: true
[06:58] <bhearsum> dos does hoary support swusp2?
[06:58] <x[trick] x> whats apt-get??? yeah i've already write the whole kubuntu 386
[06:59] <Tweek888> Yo
[06:59] <darkheart> x[trick] x Are you running ubuntu right now?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> grodius: the package name is grokking-the-gimp :)
[06:59] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: great Ubuntuer, ... Do you know a program to capture your screen into a video files ?
[06:59] <x[trick] x> nope
[06:59] <p0windah> x[trick] x: are you trolling ?
[06:59] <GoClick> x[trick] x apt-get is a medium-low level program for getting and installing software
[06:59] <x[trick] x> im still using windwos
[06:59] <GoClick> ribbo did you try and make a user on knoppix and copy the line to your other file?
[06:59] <darkheart> x[trick] x Well, you only really need one of those because you can install the other through a packaging system.
[06:59] <Tweek888> I tried installing Gtk+ Dev, and now Gnome doesn't work
[06:59] <GoClick> ribbo I think it'd be better use use a Ubuntu Live CD for this rather than Knoppix if you can
[06:59] <Tweek888> any ideas?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: heh - no I don't, but there's a flash thing that does that in linux (forget the name)
[06:59] <ribbo> GoClick: not yet
[07:00] <Echelon-H> is there any CD-Burning program you recommand?
[07:00] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: allright, :) thanks anywayz :)
[07:00] <x[trick] x> so where could i get that?? do i have to include that apt to the cd??
[07:00] <dazjorz> Echelon-H: doesn't Nero work in WINE ?
[07:00] <HumanPrototype> grodius, how much did you pay for PS?
[07:00] <Tweek888> Echelon-H k3b?? :<
[07:00] <p0windah> apt is included on the CD
[07:00] <GoClick> ribbo can we dcc?
[07:00] <ribbo> GoClick: gotcha! But does md5hash use the hardware clock when it hashes a password...just seems strange that both issues occur at the same time
[07:01] <Echelon-H> i dont want nero under wine.
[07:01] <gabberman> any can help with sound problems?
[07:01] <GoClick> by default md5 doesn't use the clock
[07:01] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: it's called vnc2swf
[07:01] <Echelon-H> I want something native.
[07:01] <x[trick] x> where can i findthat? :(
[07:01] <GoClick> It would never be a good idea to use the clock for passwords
[07:01] <Tweek888> Gtk + dev made Gnome not work, any ideas on fixing it?
[07:01] <gabberman> shonas a fatty
[07:01] <darkheart> x[trick] x It's part of Ubuntu, just install it.
[07:01] <grodius> humanprototype I warezed it ^_^
[07:01] <x[trick] x> can you give me the command??
[07:01] <x[trick] x> :)
[07:01] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, istanbul
[07:01] <darkheart> x[trick] x To install?
[07:01] <grv> hey all
[07:01] <x[trick] x> yap
[07:02] <llpamies> I'm on ubuntu64 and I've installed x.org-drivers-fglrx and restricted modules, then I put fglrx in xorg.conf, and I can get acceleration.
[07:02] <darkheart> x[trick] x The command is 'Put the CD in the drive and restart your computer'
[07:02] <Echelon-H> is there no GNOME burning client?
[07:02] <ribbo> GoClick: hat I am trying to say does the algorhythm(sp) use clock cycles to generate the hash
[07:02] <bhearsum> nautilus does cd burning
[07:02] <GoClick> bhearsum NO
[07:02] <x[trick] x> ok
[07:02] <gabberman> - - SHONA EATS FOOD - -    - - - ALL THE TIME - - -        - - - SHE'S THINKING OF FOOD RIGHT NOW - - -
[07:02] <bhearsum> GoClick: i never said i recommended it
[07:02] <darkheart> x[trick] x You better be careful if you want to keep your Windows partition.
[07:02] <x[trick] x> hehehe
[07:02] <bhearsum> i just said it did
[07:02] <gabberman> - - - SHE DOESNT KNOW - - -
[07:02] <gabberman> - - - MOUTH MOUTH MOUTH - - -
[07:03] <darkheart> gabberman Shut up
[07:03] <GoClick> bhearsum sorry I dunno what happend I typed rib and hit tab
[07:03] <x[trick] x> well.. i've decided to remove my windows
[07:03] <Echelon-H> can nautilus burn audiocd?
[07:03] <bhearsum> GoClick: alright, heh
[07:03] <GoClick> ribbo NO it does NOT use the clock
[07:03] <x[trick] x> so i have to reformat my hdd first :(
[07:03] <HumanPrototype> grodius, well how much is PS retailing for? and how much is the gimp retailing for? ... exactly - you have your reason for the differences
[07:03] <dazjorz> OSx86_Mafia: huh ?
[07:03] <darkheart> x[trick] x Ubuntu install will do that for you.
[07:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can anyone tell me if there is linux software to control my APC XS 800?
[07:03] <x[trick] x> well wish me luck
[07:03] <ribbo> GoClick: thanks
[07:04] <grv> i cannot connect to yahoo using gaim, ever since i started conncting using dsl
[07:04] <p0windah> he's gonna nuke his machine
[07:04] <grv> i am on ubuntu 4.10
[07:04] <llpamies> direct rendering: no
[07:04] <GoClick> ribbo md5 is for making a hash that is reproducable same input will always make the same output and clock cycles wouldn't be very good because then the passwords would bever work
[07:04] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, istanbul, its the name of a desktop session video recording prog
[07:04] <dex> hello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5,10?
[07:04] <dex> hello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5.10?
[07:04] <darkheart> p0windah The same time that we decide that it's not for you either.
[07:04] <p0windah> well he is prolly gonna screw up his partitions or something and come back here moaning
[07:04] <p0windah> why not suggest he try a liveCD ?
[07:05] <grodius> humanprototype but PS is a better program overall, I wouldnt buy it, but given the choice if i had both for free, id choose PS
[07:05] <darkheart> p0windah And how is that different from anyone else messing up?
[07:05] <llpamies> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/365649
[07:05] <darkheart> p0windah Maybe he doesn't want the LiveCD version
[07:05] <p0windah> I guess you're right
[07:05] <p0windah> its not like its my system
[07:05] <picasso> hi. im dumb, i just installed amarok but i can't get artsd to play mp3 files
[07:05] <blowjobba> chip
[07:05] <HumanPrototype> grodius, yes, most people would, but PS isnt free and gimp is
[07:06] <picasso> it plays ogg's, does anyone know how to get it to play .mp3 ?
[07:06] <darkheart> p0windah Just cause someone doesn't know anything about what they are doing, doesn't mean it's a bad idea. In fact, it's probably a good idea because they *will* learn. As long as they know the consequences of messing up =)
[07:06] <HumanPrototype> picasso try installing the gstreamer plugins from synaptic
[07:06] <reiki_work> I think I had the right idea when I bought a new 160GB hard drive, pulled my old WinXP drive right out, slapped in the new one and told the Ubuntu installer...."take the whole thing... it's yours to do with as you wish!"
[07:06] <reiki_work> :)
[07:06] <picasso> HumanPrototype: synaptic?
[07:06] <llpamies> anybody knows how to set a ati works in a ubuntu64 ? This is my file: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/365649
[07:06] <p0windah> I agree darkheart
[07:06] <picasso> i've used apt-get to install all gstreamer plugins
[07:06] <HumanPrototype> picasso that should work then afaik
[07:07] <picasso> ah synaptic is just the gui for apt-*
[07:07] <picasso> right
[07:07] <lsuactiafner> yes
[07:07] <dex> elo everybody. I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:07] <darkheart> picasso Well, the GUI for libapt.
[07:07] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, that seem ok? ive not used it myself, just read about it
[07:07] <p0windah> I am sure he left this channel feeling fully informed of how hard he can screw up his machine :)
[07:07] <HumanPrototype> picasso yeah, soz, i normally use it for simplicity
[07:07] <llpamies> I've installed fgrlx driver
[07:07] <darkheart> p0windah Heh, well he said he wanted to get rid of Windows.
[07:07] <picasso> alright well all these gstreamer plugins aren't helping me out =\
[07:07] <llpamies> and direct rendering in NO
[07:07] <p0windah> heh
[07:07] <p0windah> this is true
[07:08] <llpamies> and glxgears don't rotate !
[07:08] <inthenow> WHAT, this is a first. firefox actually installed the flash plugin by itself in breezy.
[07:08] <lsuactiafner> i get 7000 in glxgears with nvidia..
[07:08] <lsuactiafner> muhahaha
[07:08] <picasso> 7000 fps?
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[07:09] <dex> for anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:09] <inthenow> did anyone know that firefox installs flash on its own now?
[07:09] <fredforfaen> yeah inthenow
[07:09] <OSx86_Mafia> inthenow, it always could
[07:09] <p0windah> hasnt it done that for ages ?
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> gforce 6600 256ram amd64 3200+ asus a8n deluxe dual ddr
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> 1G dual ddr
[07:09] <inthenow> OSx86_Mafia: always? i had to do it manually every time. what did i do wrong?
[07:10] <OSx86_Mafia> dunno?
[07:10] <NubeeOfUbuntu> for anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:10] <llpamies> I'm on breezy !
[07:10] <fredforfaen> wtf is ragnarok
[07:10] <OSx86_Mafia> wtf is ragnarok?
[07:11] <p0windah> online game
[07:11] <fredforfaen> lol
[07:11] <NubeeOfUbuntu> yah online game
[07:11] <XsupremeX> yay
[07:11] <OSx86_Mafia> isnt that the end of the world in norse mythology?
[07:11] <XsupremeX> it didnt save the windowsfiles when i rebooted!
[07:11] <XsupremeX> so now lag is gone!
[07:11] <XsupremeX> :D
[07:11] <fredforfaen> yeah mafia
[07:11] <Belutz> XsupremeX: ic :)
[07:12] <kentborg> Question about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name didn't change. Is that intentional?
[07:12] <Madeye> guys whenever I install something I got this  not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. (i'm using breezy)
[07:12] <Belutz> How do I uninstall a program that i installed by compiling?
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : seems you need to download the source and compile it yourself
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> Belutz ; you dont, jsut leave it
[07:12] <NubeeOfUbuntu> ok
[07:12] <asdx> How can I open the 59 port on Hoary?
[07:12] <p0windah> lsuactiafner: vim
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> wont take more than 1mb space and it wont bother you
[07:12] <p0windah> sorry,
[07:12] <inthenow> Is firefox going to install java by itself now also?
[07:12] <p0windah> XsupremeX: vim
[07:12] <Belutz> lsuactiafner: ic, so it will be a junk in my hdd ?
[07:13] <bob2> asdx: there's nothing to open
[07:13] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, "make uninstall" in the progs src dir, does not always work though
[07:13] <bob2> asdx: just run whatever you think should be listening on port 59
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> Belutz : basically
[07:13] <fredforfaen> no inthenow
[07:13] <p0windah> XsupremeX: what doesnt it to
[07:13] <bob2> XsupremeX: it's a text editor
[07:13] <asdx> bob2: ok
[07:13] <XsupremeX> k
[07:13] <Belutz> OSx86_Mafia: ok, will try that
[07:13] <bob2> inthenow: no
[07:13] <pluffsy> what do you use to organize your photos?
[07:13] <bob2> inthenow: ubuntu isn't allowed to include java
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : apt-get install mc
[07:13] <bob2> pluffsy: fspot
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : mc rocks
[07:13] <XsupremeX> is that a command lsua?
[07:13] <pluffsy> bob2: alright
[07:13] <XsupremeX> apt-get install mc
[07:13] <XsupremeX> ??
[07:13] <ui> what is mc for?
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : yes
[07:13] <p0windah> XsupremeX: lynx  & w3m <- text based browsers
[07:13] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: about my installation of ubuntu 5.10. why is it that it takes too long for getting an update??
[07:14] <llpamies> is fglrx driver crashed in breezy ?
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: MC is Midnight Commander
[07:14] <bob2> mc is a text-based file manager
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> mc - Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager
[07:14] <wdh> NubeeOfUbuntu, because it needs to download a lot maybe?
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: it's like Windows "Explorer" but then console-based
[07:14] <bob2> llpamies: if it doesn't work for you, please check the bts
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: a file manager
[07:14] <XsupremeX> k
[07:14] <OSx86_Mafia> any of you guys tried osx for x86?
[07:14] <XsupremeX> umm how do i get it?
[07:14] <bob2> llpamies: if no one else has reported the problem, you should
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : what you mean it takes long to get an update?
[07:14] <bob2> OSx86_Mafia: #macosx
[07:14] <ui> :o
[07:14] <Belutz> OSx86_Mafia: it works!!! thx a lot mate! :)
[07:15] <llpamies> bob2, what is bts ?
[07:15] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, no worries
[07:15] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: it's like my pc lag
[07:15] <inthenow> bob2: how can we tell them to include it...i thought we are trying to wipe out world poverty
[07:15] <llpamies> bug track system ?
[07:15] <bob2> llpamies: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <bob2> inthenow: wtf?
[07:15] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, what country you from?
[07:15] <bob2> inthenow: if you want java to be included with linux distributions, ask sun to unfuck the license
[07:15] <inthenow> bob2: yes i know illogical and irrational...im waiting for cognitive therapy
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : not sure what you mean but after an apt-get it checks all the programs to see if their compatible ect.. so it will use your cpu like a whore for 10+ seconds
[07:16] <bob2> llpamies: yes, bug tracking system
[07:16] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[07:16] <llpamies> bob2, thanks
[07:16] <XsupremeX> its not connecting...
[07:17] <kentborg> Question about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name (version) didn't change. Is that intentional?
[07:17] <pluffsy> bob2: where can I find fspot? couldn't find it on google, synpatic or freshmeat
[07:17] <bob2> kentborg: the version did, but the name did not
[07:17] <lsuactiafner> kentborg : no.
[07:17] <lsuactiafner> run uname -a
[07:17] <bob2> pluffsy: f-spot, sorry
[07:17] <pluffsy> bob2: ahhh. dooh :p'
[07:17] <bob2> kentborg: the package version, that is; not the kernel version itself
[07:17] <OSx86_Mafia> f**kin mice in my room
[07:18] <wdh> OSx86_Mafia, two of them?
[07:18] <kentborg> bobb2: Dang, because my wireless (ipw2100) is more flakey and I wanted to revert the kernel, but be able to boot between the two. Same name is a problem.
[07:18] <boogie> kill the mofos
[07:18] <OSx86_Mafia> ate my switches power cable
[07:18] <inthenow> bob2: ok im contacting them. i wont let you down
[07:18] <XsupremeX> brb every1
[07:18] <bob2> kentborg: that's not really possible
[07:18] <bob2> kentborg: if it's got worse, tho, please do file a bug
[07:19] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: why is it that ubuntu is so slow in my pc. like when it turns to screensaver mode, im having a difficult time getting it back at ones. i have to wait a while for me to see the desktop again.. T_T
[07:19] <kentborg> bob2: not sure whether it si flakey hardware, I wanted to try the old kernel first.
[07:19] <kentborg> bob2: I even have a handy backup.
[07:19] <bob2> kentborg: you'd have to replace it with the old .deb then
[07:19] <bob2> which might not work
[07:20] <kentborg> bob2: (and lsuactiafner) thanks.
[07:21] <bob2> kentborg: but please do file a bug if it is more flakey; I don't want breezy not working with my wireless card ;)
[07:21] <kentborg> bob2: I am going to try reverting to the old kernel manual-style and see.
[07:22] <x[trick] x> ey! need help
[07:22] <x[trick] x> :(
[07:22] <apokryphos> !helpme
[07:22] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:22] <saldb> !helpme with wireless please!
[07:22] <ubotu> saldb: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:23] <saldb> any humans in here? i'm having a bit of difficulty getting my wifi adapter working
[07:23] <x[trick] x> my cd installer for ubundu did'nt work :(
[07:23] <bob2> it's way easier if you ask a question
[07:23] <bob2> x[trick] x: did the cd burn correctly?
[07:23] <x[trick] x> when i restarted my pc it says disk error :(
[07:23] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: why is it my ubuntu is so slow?
[07:23] <saldb> !helpme how do i turn off the RF kill switch on my wifi card?
[07:23] <ubotu> saldb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:23] <apokryphos> NubeeOfUbuntu: it isn't :D
[07:23] <Joxer> does ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^
[07:23] <x[trick] x> i think so..
[07:23] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: how could anyone possibly answer that?
[07:23] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: explain what specific things you think are slow
[07:23] <apokryphos> saldb: please don't play with the bot in here.
[07:24] <bob2> x[trick] x: then try again
[07:24] <saldb> sorry i thought the bot was part of some system
[07:24] <darkheart> XsupremeX This isn't Windows
[07:24] <bob2> saldb: the bot really doesn't understand english
[07:24] <saldb> how about russian?
[07:24] <bob2> saldb: what does linux-laptop.net say about it?
[07:24] <apokryphos> saldb: he's generally used to respond to particular factoids
[07:24] <darkheart> saldb How about only keywords?
[07:24] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: when it is updating, i cant my move my mouse smoothly and i cant open any application
[07:24] <saldb> heh okay
[07:24] <apokryphos> saldb: and you can investigate with him in /msg
[07:24] <darkheart> XsupremeX You want to type a message and have window pop up on another computer with the message?
[07:24] <x[trick] x> i even set my bios to make my cd my first boot device but i still has the same msg :(
[07:25] <bob2> XsupremeX: it's very annoying when you ask questions like that
[07:25] <saldb> ok well i'd rather get my problem addressed
[07:25] <bob2> x[trick] x: so, check if the CD is ok or not
[07:25] <darkheart> XsupremeX No, that's a security issue and an annoyance.
[07:25] <Joxer> does ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^
[07:25] <bob2> saldb: why dn't you go find out if it's supposed to work or not then?
[07:25] <x[trick] x> i've tried to read the cd awhile ago and its working fine
[07:25] <bob2> x[trick] x: that doesn't really answer my question
[07:26] <bob2> x[trick] x: when you ask it to to verify itself, does it pass or fail?
[07:26] <darkheart> XsupremeX If you are really hell-bent on doing that, there is some program out there that will talk over a windows network to do that, but I don't remember its name.
[07:26] <saldb> bob2: the problem is the my wifi adapter has an rf switch. i've read people actually have gotten wifi to work, sadly they don't really explain how
[07:26] <x[trick] x> what do you mean by dat bob?
[07:26] <bob2> saldb: wifi in general is trivial
[07:26] <bob2> XsupremeX: stop using /me, it's bloody annoying
[07:26] <saldb> well, i /do/ want it to work
[07:26] <XsupremeX> sorry
[07:26] <XsupremeX> lol
[07:26] <bob2> saldb: but RF kill switches are hardware specific
[07:26] <lonewolff> XsupremeX: why do you /me everything?
[07:26] <XsupremeX> gaim isnt working
[07:26] <XsupremeX> dunno
[07:27] <bob2> XsupremeX: linpopup lets you annoy windows users
[07:27] <x[trick] x> verify it self???
[07:27] <dan> quit
[07:27] <bob2> x[trick] x: boot expert mode, select the "verify cd" option
[07:28] <x[trick] x> havent seen that during my restart
[07:28] <dazjorz> hey uhm
[07:28] <saldb> bob2: some aren't hardware controlled
[07:28] <x[trick] x> where should i set that?
[07:28] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: it doesn't boot to the CD at all?
[07:28] <dazjorz> somewhere, in a file, I put export LANG=EN_us
[07:28] <x[trick] x> yeah
[07:28] <dazjorz> I don't know what file it is again
[07:28] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: does the Ubuntu Screen come up?
[07:28] <x[trick] x> nope
[07:28] <XsupremeX> does anyone know why gaim isnt working for me?
[07:28] <dazjorz> could someone give me a list of files that Ubuntu loads at boot
[07:29] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: why i cant even cancel what im updating? it also taking my mouse to respond to what im trying to do
[07:29] <bob2> saldb: right, but whether or not it's hardware controlled is itslef hardware-specific
[07:29] <dazjorz> or, a way to find a specific text in a file on the system
[07:29] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: are you sure you burned the CD correctly?
[07:29] <saldb> bob2: good point
[07:29] <x[trick] x> yap
[07:29] <bob2> x[trick] x: then you've probably burnt it incorrectly, or not setup your bios properly
[07:29] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: okiedokie
[07:29] <saldb> bob2: i'm loading on the ipw2200 driver, it seems to come loaded with 5.10 but i might need to reinstall it
[07:29] <pluffsy> bob2: oh my god. f-spot seems to really kick ass, seems a lot neater then iphoto.
[07:29] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: you can either retry burning another CD, and double-checking yoru bios, or you can select another method of installation
[07:29] <bob2> saldb: hardware as in the laptop itself
[07:30] <x[trick] x> ah...
[07:30] <bob2> pluffsy: yeah, I quite like it
[07:30] <x[trick] x> :(
[07:30] <darkheart> XsupremeX If you don't give symptoms of your problem, we don't know what it might be.
[07:30] <x[trick] x> wait i'll get my cd
[07:30] <saldb> bob2: the thing is, i'm reading a faq on my exact brand notebook and the author says it just worked randomly/magically
[07:30] <inthenow> bob2: ok i emailed the sun, lets hope it shines here
[07:30] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: if you've got enough bandwidth and a dvd burner you might like to try the DVD iso
[07:30] <x[trick] x> its good i have 2 computer here
[07:31] <XsupremeX> Well it just doesnt do anything
[07:31] <bob2> saldb: and the model number is?
[07:31] <XsupremeX> it just stays connecting
[07:31] <XsupremeX> for like 20 mins
[07:31] <XsupremeX> lol...
[07:31] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: can u tell me what happened to my installation of ubuntu and why it so slow, just like what i explained a while ago?
[07:31] <x[trick] x> i burn it using creating data cd
[07:31] <x[trick] x> is that right??
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: I have no idea
[07:31] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: pls!
[07:31] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: no
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: perhaps you don't have dma enabled
[07:31] <saldb> bob2: nw8240 .. it's HP Compaq
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: don't be annoying
[07:31] <x[trick] x> ops
[07:31] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: it's an ISO. You should burn Image
[07:31] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell x[trick] x about install
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: you really shouldn't be demanding anything from strangers on irc
[07:32] <x[trick] x> damn :(
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> oh im sorry
[07:32] <jamey3> I have just plugged in some 5.1 surround speakers and sound only comes out of the center satellite and subwoofer. How can I make it work fully?
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> thats not what i meant
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> my apologies
[07:32] <x[trick] x> so i have to use image
[07:32] <fredforfaen> yeah iso-image
[07:32] <bob2> jamey3: depends on the sound card
[07:32] <Rockett18> NubeeOfUbuntu> what graphics card do you have?
[07:32] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: check the link ubotu just gave you. Do you have Nero?
[07:33] <x[trick] x> yes i have
[07:33] <Belutz> i'm hungry
[07:33] <jamey3> bob2, it's the default integrated one on an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I think it's a Realtek chipset.
[07:33] <inthenow> who needs help. i support linux. i cant support windows because im not stealing it anymore
[07:33] <jamey3> inthenow, I do
[07:33] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: Inno3d nvidia TNT2 mx200
[07:33] <darkheart> XsupremeX Do you have a firewall or anything enabled?
[07:33] <XsupremeX> not sure
[07:33] <XsupremeX> cuz im on live cd
[07:33] <XsupremeX> on ubuntu
[07:33] <Rockett18> NubeeOfUbuntu> do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[07:33] <andysl> I am having some problems with Evolution in Breezy (using IMAP servers).  I cannot see the inbox, but I _can_ see the contents of the other folders.  Can you help me out?
[07:33] <bob2> saldb: someone claism it Just Works on the nc8220, too
[07:33] <inthenow> im tired of stealing operating systems
[07:34] <jamey3> inthenow, great but can you help me?
[07:34] <inthenow> jamey3: maybe
[07:34] <inthenow> shoot
[07:34] <jamey3> I have a 5.1 speaker set and I've just plugged it into the integrated sound card on my Abit NF7-S motherboard.
[07:34] <jamey3> Sound only comes out of the centre speaker and subwoofer.
[07:34] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i dont know
[07:34] <bob2> jamey3: what does google say about linux support for that motherboard?
[07:34] <Rockett18> !nvidia
[07:34] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <jamey3> well I presumed it was just a setting change since sound works fine otherwise
[07:35] <fredforfaen> jamey3 and alsamixer is a good tool
[07:35] <jamey3> but okay, will google
[07:35] <jamey3> that's what I thought it could be
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i just installed it from the cd.
[07:35] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: if you have Nero, I think you can even just double-click on the .ISO and Nero will do it for you
[07:35] <saldb> bob2: the author claims he recompiled DSDT and somehow that made it work
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: the ubuntu
[07:35] <x[trick] x> is it possible to just copy the first cd that i write awhile ago to my hdd then burn a new one using image??
[07:35] <bob2> jamey3: it's possible linux doesn't support it at all, but I don't know
[07:35] <inthenow> jamey3: i have that board...what module is loaded. did you type lsmod?
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i dont know how to install the video card driver. can u teach me how/
[07:36] <bob2> saldb: it's possible, some laptops do ship with broken dsdts
[07:36] <jamey3> inthenow, nope will do now
[07:36] <inthenow> jamey3: as root
[07:36] <jamey3> snd                    50276  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[07:36] <jamey3> oh ok
[07:36] <jgb> can someone explain to me how the Contents.i386.gz works?  To me it just looks like a filesystem listing
[07:37] <jamey3> same result
[07:37] <bob2> jgb: it shows what files are in which packages
[07:37] <bob2> jgb: but it's broken atm anyway
[07:38] <inthenow> jamey3:  uname -a
[07:38] <inthenow> what kernel?
[07:38] <jamey3> Linux jamey 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:39] <XsupremeX> Does Ubuntu come with a firewall?
[07:39] <XsupremeX> when you use the live CD?
[07:39] <jgb> ok.  If I want to create an iso image of all packages on our local ftp mirror for a specific architecture, how do I go about it?
[07:40] <bob2> XsupremeX: nope
[07:40] <geneo93> XsupremeX:  i doubt if anyone can write to your disk
[07:40] <jamey3> ok i turned on all settings in alsamixer, that really fucked it up
[07:40] <bob2> XsupremeX: there's nothing for it to do
[07:40] <XsupremeX> k
[07:40] <blablub> test
[07:40] <blablablub> test
[07:40] <fredforfaen> jamey3 lol
[07:40] <dazjorz> how to install libavcodec ?
[07:40] <fredforfaen> jamey3 how did it fuck it up?
[07:41] <neighborlee> im still getting kernel panic ( VFS:  unable to mount root fs) from a fresh kernel compile ( kernel-source-2.6.10 from synaptic ) using: /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 ...would could be wrong ??
[07:41] <andysl> t
[07:41] <dazjorz> it's a virtual package but I need it...
[07:41] <jamey3> fredforfaen, kept phasing volume in and out like a kid with a waa-waa pedal
[07:41] <jamey3> oh right there's a lot of settings in alsamixer but whatever I do, nothing seems to turn on the other speakers lmao
[07:41] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: how would i change my root password?
[07:41] <fredforfaen> jamey3 haha...but nothing on the oher speekers?
[07:41] <danst> hi just wanted to know if someone could help me with compiling imms for bmp. i get two "undeclared" errors ("display undeclared" and "Window undeclared"). same as for this guy http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/538
[07:41] <ompaul> NubeeOfUbuntu, you would not
[07:42] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: there isnt a root password to change
[07:42] <jamey3> fredforfaen, nope it's weird
[07:42] <ompaul> !tell NubeeOfUbuntu about root
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: you compiled it wrong
[07:42] <gm78> Why am I not able to block a contact in Gaim using MSN?
[07:42] <fredforfaen> hmm
[07:42] <jamey3> there's three channels, two speakers on each, only the sub/centre is working
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: include support for you root filesystem type and ide/scsi drivers
[07:42] <jamey3> the rear l/r and front l/r aren't working at all
[07:42] <benjam1n> anyone know why i can't find eclipse anywhere through synaptic?
[07:42] <ompaul> NubeeOfUbuntu, that should help a tad - we all do the sudo again :)
[07:42] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: ok thx
[07:42] <fredforfaen> thats wierd
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: or, better still, don't compile it at all
[07:42] <bob2> benjam1n: it's not in ubuntu
[07:42] <gm78> NubeeOfUbuntu, if you want to enable a root password, issue the command sudo passwd root
[07:42] <jamey3> hm anyone know how I can solve this bugger?
[07:42] <fredforfaen> jamey3 have you googled you model/brand?
[07:42] <benjam1n> thats dumb
[07:43] <gm78> benjam1n, you have to install java and eclipse manually
[07:43] <jamey3> fredforfaen, yeah doing that now
[07:43] <fredforfaen> good good
[07:43] <jamey3> found "HOWTO: Hear multiple sounds at once" looks promising sorta
[07:43] <pluffsy> btw. anyone here tried beagle on ubuntu? guess you need to install a newer kernel and stuff. is beagle very unstable or what is the state of it?
[07:43] <fredforfaen> cool
[07:43] <benuk> Hey!! ubuntu won't install on my PC :'( :'(
[07:43] <gm78> benjam1n, well, if you want to contribute millions of dollars so canonical can buy the rights to java and open source it, by all means do so ;)
[07:44] <neighborlee> bob2, I have ext3 set to 'y' as per directions for a / partition ( it can't be M ) and ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config which should be correct and same as my running kernel right ? (which is the stock ubuntu kernel)
[07:44] <gm78> benjam1n, until then, blame Sun for Ubuntu not shipping eclipse
[07:44] <benjam1n> anyone here know a good editor for python? one that dosnt use qt that is
[07:44] <neoliminal> Anyone know if gimpShop will end up in Universe anytime soon?  If I were leet I'd put it there myself, but I'm just a graphics guy.
[07:44] <bob2> neighborlee: no, it's not correct
[07:44] <bob2> neighborlee: compile it IN, not as a module
[07:44] <benuk> isn't eclipse in the universe??
[07:44] <bob2> benuk: then explain what the problem is
[07:44] <danst> could someone help me with this compilation problem? http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/538
[07:44] <gm78> benuk, nope...it cant be. ubuntu doesnt ship java
[07:44] <bob2> neoliminal: talk to #ubuntu-motu
[07:44] <neighborlee> bob2, I just said im compiling it in ie: it is set to 'Y'..see my post above
[07:45] <neoliminal> bob2: what is that?
[07:45] <war-totem> anyone know the command to send an email through mutt/vim
[07:45] <bob2> neoliminal: the channel to ask for things to go into universe
[07:45] <benjam1n> yeah but azueus i found in one of the repos maybe its an unoffial one (probably) but its in there and it uses java
[07:45] <neoliminal> bob: cool thanks!
[07:45] <lenhan> benjam1n: just download the java sdk and untargz eclipse manually
[07:45] <bob2> neighborlee: "ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config", which is not correct, since by default it is modular
[07:45] <bob2> pluffsy: it's slow, and once I had it installed, I realised, not very useful
[07:46] <inthenow> jamey3: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Nvidia#matrix
[07:46] <g|patrick> hi
[07:46] <inthenow> IM still looking into it
[07:46] <neighborlee> bob2, i'd think the config would be same as my running kernel which I thought was the whole point of HAVING a config ?..anyway ok so illl check those settings and make sure they are set to Y then
[07:46] <Angel-SL> hi
[07:46] <Angel-SL> anyone knows a good IDE?
[07:46] <jamey3> inthenow, thanks looking now
[07:46] <dazjorz> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:46] <dazjorz> libpng is installed ?!
[07:46] <gm78> benjam1n, as far as i know azureus isnt in the ubuntu repos....ill have to double check though. do you have any non-ubuntu repos enabled?
[07:47] <bob2> neighborlee: no, as I explained yesterday, the ubuntu kernel has everything modularised, so it requires an initrd to boot
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: no, it's not
[07:47] <lenhan> Angel-SL: kdevelop or eclipse
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: aptitude says it is
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: install libpng2
[07:47] <Angel-SL> a C/C++ Development IDE
[07:47] <jamey3> inthenow, ok what the hell does that mean? :_)
[07:47] <jamey3> *:-)
[07:47] <Angel-SL> thanks lenhan
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: libpng10 and libpng12..
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: neither of which are libpng2
[07:47] <gm78> Angel-SL, for eclipse, install the C/C++ plugin, since by default it is a java IDE
[07:47] <lenhan> Angel-SL: np
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: ok, i'll install that one too then :)
[07:48] <inthenow> jamey3: nm it...im just trying to help you
[07:48] <Angel-SL> hold on
[07:48] <bob2> dazjorz: libfoo.so.N is generally in libfooN
[07:48] <Angel-SL> wrong channel
[07:48] <dazjorz> bob2: thanks :)
[07:48] <Angel-SL> i have debian and ubuntu
[07:48] <Angel-SL> why am i asking here..
[07:48] <Cryptid> I cant find BMP in Synaptec
[07:48] <dazjorz> bob2: seems to work
[07:48] <obscurite> Hello. I am a future ubunutu type person. =)
[07:48] <gm78> Angel-SL, this is the ubuntu channel
[07:48] <bob2> Cryptid: beep-media-player
[07:48] <obscurite> Trying to decide on a notebook.
[07:48] <fredforfaen> obscurite good!
[07:48] <bob2> but it's not very useful
[07:48] <Angel-SL> tho i am banned in #Debian >_<
[07:48] <Cryptid> bob2 Yes
[07:49] <lenhan> Angel-SL: eclipse is not in the repositories and java isn't in the repositories by default either; just download them manually
[07:49] <bob2> yes, for being a gimp
[07:49] <gm78> bob2, i find bmp to be much better than xmms....altho i prefer kaffeine to both of them
[07:49] <inthenow> jamey3 http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=.&chip=nForce&module=intel8x0
[07:49] <Cryptid> bob2, is Bmp not good atall
[07:49] <inthenow> dont be too quick to do what it says there
[07:49] <lenhan> Angel-SL: don't use eclipse unless you've got a lot of memory to spare; CDT is the C/C++ plugin I believe
[07:49] <bob2> Cryptid: it's like xmms but with anti-aliased menus
[07:49] <rob^^^> is there a way to force a colordepth for X on the livecd from the boot prompt?
[07:49] <obscurite> There any good resources for someone shopping for an ubuntu portable aside from the usual suspecs (google, tuxmobil, linux-laptops)
[07:49] <neighborlee> bob2, ok so then the config info shoud be building the kernel correctly since I changed no ide/scsi settings at all meaning they are modularized...( setting M )...and I do have initrd set to Y in the kernel so that is ok..what does that leave ? (I made no other changes)
[07:49] <bob2> gm78: how is it different?
[07:50] <gm78> Cryptid, i used to use it before switching to kaffeine, liked it much better than xmms
[07:50] <inthenow> jamey3: dont be to quick to follow those instructions
[07:50] <bob2> neighborlee: no, because you'd have to build it with --initrd and configure the bootloader to use it, too
[07:50] <fredforfaen> gm78 i like BMP very much to :P
[07:50] <bob2> obscurite: the wiki
[07:50] <Cryptid> gm78, Kaffeine looks like a Vid player rite?
[07:50] <obscurite> bob2, thanks
[07:50] <gm78> bob2, uses gtk2....but the main differences are the menu layouts and such...much more user friendly in my opinion
[07:50] <pluffsy> will 5.10 ship with the 2.6.12 kernel from the preview or the 2.6.13?
[07:50] <neighborlee> bob2, what do you mean --initrd ??
[07:50] <gm78> Cryptid, it is like Windows Media Player...it plays everything. i use it for both music and video
[07:51] <gm78> pluffsy, i believe 2.6.12
[07:51] <fredforfaen> gm78 cool
[07:51] <inthenow> jamey3: maybe it has something to do with the .asoundrc file
[07:51] <fredforfaen> didnt know that it could play video
[07:51] <inthenow> jamey3: did you read that part?
[07:51] <bob2> gm78: right, which no one ever uses, since it has controls in the main menu for basically everything
[07:51] <pluffsy> gm78, alright... 2.6.13 would be neat, so it was easy to install beagle when it gets stable. well well.
[07:51] <bob2> neighborlee: man make-kpkg
[07:51] <gm78> Cryptid, it is a kde app though. i use it anyways, since i dont care if i run a "pure" desktop
[07:51] <obscurite> anyone have a lappy that's particularly ubuntu or linux friendly that they adore?
[07:52] <bob2> pluffsy: the ubuntu kernel has inotify
[07:52] <bob2> obscurite: ibm x40
[07:52] <bob2> obscurite: I'm yet to see a nicer laptop
[07:52] <pluffsy> bob2: oooh. alright. great. does the hoary kernel have it?
[07:52] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there
[07:52] <gm78> bob2, ah, but the second you install plugins, you sort of have to use the menus ;)
[07:52] <bob2> pluffsy: yes, it seems
[07:52] <obscurite> bob2, my only requirements is 2gb of ram and at usable vmware speed
[07:52] <bob2> benuk: please file a bug
[07:53] <pluffsy> bob2: cool. :)
[07:53] <bob2> pluffsy: (grep -i inotif /boot/config*)
[07:53] <Angel-SL> any more IDEs (definetly NOT Anjuta)
[07:53] <pluffsy> bob2: btw sorry for harassing you with all these questions all the time.
[07:53] <bob2> obscurite: ibm makes very lovely linux-friendly laptops
[07:53] <llpamies> I installed breezy and the first boot appear a splash image in the boot. Then I update the kernel, and the splash disappeared. How can I set it again ?
[07:53] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, from where did u get BMP i cant find it in synaptic
[07:53] <benuk> could someone help me plz
[07:53] <yhann> hi to all, i need help how to install an application on Kubuntu
[07:53] <fredforfaen> Cryptid ill get you the tutorial
[07:53] <obscurite> bob2, thanks again
[07:54] <nuk130n> yhann: from source ?
[07:54] <Versed> I have a toshiba but not sure I want to put it on it.
[07:54] <digitize> yhann: in the same manner you would with any debian distro, apt-get install app
[07:54] <bob2> obscurite: (wikiubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam)
[07:54] <yhann> No, from distro
[07:54] <neighborlee> bob2, alright so I presume cramfs is indeed patched in the 2.6.10 sources ?
[07:54] <fredforfaen> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:54] <bob2> llpamies: "update the kernel"? you compiled your own kernel?
[07:54] <bob2> neighborlee: the ubuntu ones, yes
[07:54] <fredforfaen> there Cryptid
[07:54] <nuk130n> yhann: or, if you're a newbie use synaptic
[07:54] <lenhan> Angel-SL: those two are ones I recommend, unless you prefer xemacs or vim ;-)
[07:55] <inthenow> jamey3: try creating the .asoundrc file it says on the url i gave you
[07:55] <obscurite> bob2, reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu
[07:55] <MagicStick> hi guys..can anyone tell me how to check what services are running?
[07:55] <llpamies> bob2, no I update from amd64 to amd64-k8
[07:55] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, thanx i tried it worked i got a lot new software :-)
[07:55] <neighborlee> bob2, ok thx yes i mean the ones availble from synaptic
[07:55] <digitize> MagicStick: ps x
[07:55] <nuk130n> yhann: you should find the shortcut in the kde menu somewhere
[07:55] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, according to u which is better BMP or XMMS
[07:55] <fredforfaen> Cryptid yeah lotsa good stuff there
[07:55] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?
[07:55] <gm78> obscurite, check out www.linux-laptop.net also....some very good info there
[07:55] <fredforfaen> BPM
[07:55] <digitize> Cryptid: i like amarok (a kde player)
[07:55] <x[trick] x> bob when i burn a cd.. i should choose burn image?? is that right??
[07:55] <obscurite> gm78 - already scoured it =)
[07:55] <wezzer> hmm, beagle isn't working at breezy
[07:55] <fredforfaen> I love it...user friendly , gtk2 , and cool skins
[07:55] <gm78> obscurite, oh, lol
[07:55] <bob2> benuk: file a bug so it can be fixed
[07:56] <bob2> x[trick] x: depends if you're burning a cd image or not
[07:56] <obscurite> gm78 - tuxmobil is good too
[07:56] <MagicStick> digitize: that only shows the processes. i would like to know which services/daemons are running
[07:56] <boogie> beagle is a piece of crap beta project
[07:56] <MagicStick> eg ssh, apache
[07:56] <Cryptid> digitize, even i like it but all of a sudden it stopped working
[07:56] <digitize> MagicStick: type it as root
[07:56] <yhann> nuk130n: how can you use synaptic for something is not in package?
[07:56] <x[trick] x> ill be using it as a installation cd of kubuntu
[07:56] <llpamies> How can I set again the boot splash ?
[07:56] <BiSK-8> hello
[07:56] <bob2> MagicStick: how are you defining daemon?
[07:56] <fredforfaen> Cryptid bummer
[07:56] <fredforfaen> whats the error?
[07:56] <gm78> yhann, well then you have to follow the install instructions for that piece of software. read the README file
[07:56] <obscurite> I imagine the best supported hardware is the one the main kernel devs use... but I don't have that inside info. Probably mostly IBM =)
[07:56] <digitize> how many of you guys (with a 5.04 install) have updated sources.list with the breezy badger (5.10) repositories?
[07:57] <inthenow> jamey3: see this part in the last link i gave you  Lars G<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:57] <dazjorz> anyone who can help me with mounting .BIN / .CUE files to a filesystem ?
[07:57] <inthenow> Saturday, 08 November 2003
[07:57] <nuk130n> yhann: not in package? do you have a .deb file? or are you compiling it from the source?
[07:57] <bob2> obscurite: linus's current desktop is apparently an ibm power5 workstation
[07:57] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, it says it claims that i cant play ne files where as i have all the codecs installed and the same files play in other players like totem
[07:57] <yhann> ok, let me check the file...
[07:57] <NubeeOfUbuntu> where can i find a manual of ubuntu 5.04, so i can print it and study it. thx
[07:57] <BiSK-8> how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?
[07:57] <fredforfaen> Cryptid that sucks
[07:57] <bob2> obscurite: my only complaint about my x40 is that my hard disk is getting quite warm while upgrading to breezy
[07:57] <obscurite> bob2, I read he started using ppc when he got a dual 2.5 g5 gift
[07:58] <ubuntulnx> hi! anyone with experience on cpu temperature readings from /proc/acpi/thermal_zone??
[07:58] <lenhan> bob2: hehehe
[07:58] <ubuntulnx> this directory is empty for me
[07:58] <fredforfaen> Cryptid not shure i can help you but .........if you run it from cli does it output a error?
[07:58] <bob2> ubuntulnx: then your hardware isnt announcing temperatures using acpi
[07:58] <bob2> ubuntulnx: or the kernel doesn't know how to interpret it
[07:58] <lenhan> bob2: I suppose breezy can't keep your harddrive cool ;-)
[07:59] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, it actually dosent run ne thing it says command not found
[07:59] <obscurite> bob2, I might go powerppc except i'm keen to learn Xen which is x86 only right now
[07:59] <fredforfaen> Cryptid damn , im sorry to say that all i got for you then is google my friend :)
[07:59] <x[trick] x> bob i just want to clarify.. after i donwloaded the kubuntu 386-iso i have to extract it then i have tu write it on a cd using burn image?
[07:59] <x[trick] x> is that right??
[08:00] <ubuntulnx> bob2, ok.. ill see what settings are available in my bios (btw i can see cpu temperature, fan speed and voltages in bios)
[08:00] <x[trick] x> my nero version is 5.5
[08:00] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, its ok thats y i was planning to use BMP or XMMS now i am unable to understand which to use BMP or XMMS
[08:00] <bob2> obscurite: ppc laptops have issues with wireless, too
[08:00] <bob2> x[trick] x: extract it?
[08:00] <gm78> x[trick] x, no....just select burn image and then select the iso image within nero
[08:00] <gerarcone> hello, i have a 386 version of the kernel. how can i download the 686 version?
[08:01] <bob2> gerarcone: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[08:01] <obscurite> bob2, yeah, i am very angry about the broadcom/airport extreme nonsense. definitely lost apple a sale!
[08:01] <fredforfaen> Cryptid well give BPM a go , its worth it i think...but xmms is good to , old school!
[08:01] <benuk> guess i wont instal ubuntu then :(
[08:01] <gm78> fredforfaen, BMP...not BPM :-P
[08:01] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:01] <fredforfaen> gm78 sorry im stoned and drunk so...:P
[08:01] <boogie> you should install gentoo instead, it's much faster
[08:01] <gm78> fredforfaen, (minor nitpick)
[08:01] <fredforfaen> lol
[08:02] <fredforfaen> yeah
[08:02] <gm78> fredforfaen, lol\
[08:02] <microsoft_bob> ha ha!!!
[08:02] <gerarcone> bob2: is there a command to view all the possible kernels?
[08:02] <fredforfaen> SKL!
[08:02] <RIVANVX> hi, I have a problem with a laptop. In breezy, battery status occasionally (every second or every third refresh) shows 0% - then it gets back to normal again
[08:03] <bob2> gerarcone: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image-
[08:03] <Rug> What are the rules for setting up a Ubuntu mirror?  (I install it about 2-3 times per week) and if I had a local net-copy it would speed up install times.  I would only rsync once per month or so..
[08:03] <bob2> Rug: "go for it"
[08:03] <chrissturm> rug: you could use apt-proxy
[08:03] <obscurite> bob2, is IBM the cheapest place to get an IBM?
[08:04] <Cryptid> i got a Acer S2W 3300v Flat bed scanner but i am unable to use it on my Ubuntu what do i do Ubuntu dosent detect it automatically
[08:04] <pluffsy> btw. can any free software read nikons NEF files? I think I've heard the format is proprietary.
[08:04] <Rug> bob2: chrissturm:    Thanks...
[08:04] <bradypus> uuufffffffffffffff
[08:04] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <gm78> Cryptid, it might not be support. check the sane website (google for it)
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bob2> obscurite: no
[08:05] <bob2> obscurite: froogle.google.com
[08:05] <bob2> bradypus: do you really want to be banned?
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <Rug> bradypus: Hello
[08:05] <jessy> #ubuntu-fr
[08:05] <Kyral> Hey Seveas is your FreeNX repo working?
[08:05] <jessy> #ubuntu-fr
[08:06] <bradypus> hi
[08:06] <engie> I upgraded to breezy yesterday, and today there's a load of updates for me. Is this because it's still beign finished, or did the dist-upgrade yesterday miss a few packages?
[08:06] <bradypus> =))))))))))))))))))
[08:06] <bradypus> hi
[08:06] <bob2> bradypus: are you done?
[08:06] <engie> When I say few, I mean about 150...
[08:06] <bradypus> yea
[08:06] <Seveas> Kyral, no
[08:06] <bradypus> =)
[08:06] <reiki_work> ok I have to admit I'm confused.... if I want to change the look of my Ubuntu desktop. Do I look for a GDM Theme? A GTK2 Theme? Or do you just change backgrounds and window borders?
[08:06] <bob2> bradypus: do you really think it's ok to annoy 600 strangers?
[08:06] <bradypus> yea
[08:06] <Kyral> Can you tell me where I can get the Breezy FreeNX server then?
[08:06] <bob2> engie: breezy is still under heavy development
[08:07] <darkheart> engie Breezy is unstable, expect a lot of updates at any time.
[08:07] <engie> Cheers
[08:07] <fredforfaen> cheers
[08:07] <bob2> reiki_work: gdm = login screen
[08:07] <bob2> reiki_work: gtk2 = widgets
[08:07] <dazjorz> ./uplink: relocation error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot
[08:07] <darkheart> reiki_work What WM do you use?
[08:07] <dazjorz> what's this ?
[08:07] <bob2> dazjorz: it's miscompiled
[08:07] <dazjorz> bob2: I didn't compile the game...
[08:07] <engie> darkheart: It makes me feel like I'm back on Sid - happy times...
[08:08] <Kyral> or will the Hoary Backport version of the FreeNX package work in Breezy?
[08:08] <darkheart> engie Haha. I personally get enough of 'making things work' when I'm at work, so at home I stick with the stable releases.
[08:08] <Seveas> Kyral, i'm working on it -- the hoary one will not work
[08:08] <Kyral> gaah....I wanna get offa VNC and onto something more secure...
[08:09] <darkheart> Kyral In general, don't count on things going smoothly if you use a package from a different version..That kind of stuff breaks things.
[08:09] <Seveas> Kyral, wait a few minutes, it's almost back :)
[08:09] <Kyral> ty ty
[08:09] <darkheart> Kyral Tunnel your VNC through SSH.
[08:09] <Kyral> I'm kinda going it oddly
[08:09] <Cryptid> Does Breezy have more hardware support
[08:09] <Kyral> See, I'm VNC'd right now talking to you
[08:09] <Kyral> so I'm installing it over VNC :D
[08:09] <gm78> Cryptid, yes, it should, since it is using a newer kernel
[08:10] <Cryptid> Kernel version of Ubuntu 5.0 and 5.10 please
[08:10] <Kyral> there is no Ubuntu 5.0 :P
[08:10] <gm78> Cryptid, Ubuntu 5.04 has 2.6.10, Ubuntu 5.10 should have kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?
[08:10] <gm78> i think anyways
[08:10] <bob2> benuk: have you filed a bug yet?
[08:10] <gm78> benuk, file a bug, like someone said before
[08:11] <benuk> :( ok
[08:11] <Kyral> So if I have sshd working (and I made a pub/private key), FreeNX should encrypt it?
[08:11] <xSpecialistx> who here use dc_gui program?! because i dont know how connect this network!!!
[08:11] <benuk> i tried to install the hoary cd i got via the post and it wont even boot off it
[08:11] <benuk> but it does off my mates
[08:11] <benuk> tried 2 different cds
[08:11] <bob2> Kyral: presumably the other way round
[08:11] <keene> Has anyone been able to compile NVU yet?
[08:11] <Kyral> eh?
[08:11] <Seveas> ssh encrypts freenx :)
[08:11] <bob2> Kyral: presumably ssh encryprs NX
[08:11] <roham> !theme
[08:11] <ubotu> roham: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:11] <darkheart> keene There is a package for nvu
[08:11] <Kyral> yah thats what I meant
[08:12] <roham> !themes
[08:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[08:12] <xSpecialistx> !dc
[08:12] <ubotu> xSpecialistx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:12] <keene> darkheart, where? It's not in synaptic
[08:12] <gm78> keene, dont bother compiling it. just untar the linspire tarball of it and it should work. you can also get an autopackage build for it
[08:12] <Kyral> oh someone mind explaining what the pub/private key I made was good for?
[08:12] <darkheart> keene Have you added any additional repositories?
[08:12] <Seveas> for nothing
[08:12] <Seveas> freenx and ssh create the keys they need
[08:12] <keene> I added the ones for the restricted formats
[08:12] <siimo> hi anyone here use gnome 2.12? i can only log in as root when i try to log in as a user through GDM it just sits there on the blank blue background screen
[08:12] <keene> and one for Wine
[08:13] <Kyral> then why in the Ubuntu Wiki on SSH it says to make them?
[08:13] <bob2> keys are useful for ssh, yes
[08:13] <darkheart> !tell keene about repositories
[08:13] <engie> Ohh, usplash works nice now :)
[08:13] <mindmedic> siimo, how can you log in as root? there is no root password?
[08:13] <bob2> since they allow you to authenticate without using passwords
[08:13] <Kyral> ah
[08:13] <siimo> mindmedic, i set one
[08:13] <gm78> darkheart, i dont believe nvu is in any of the repos
[08:13] <reiki_work> darkheart: sorry... has to step away for a sec... lunch arrived. I use Gnome, I thank you for your explainations of what the pieces are. :)
[08:13] <mindmedic> ah, ok, i use 2.12, and had no issues
[08:14] <Kyral> so instead of having to type my password, if I have the public key on the machine I'm shhing from, I don't have to type it?
[08:14] <Kyral> sshing even
[08:14] <mindmedic> siimo, have you tried creating a new user and login with it.
[08:14] <darkheart> reiki_work That was bob2 that explained it to ya =)
[08:14] <reiki_work> dang it
[08:14] <reiki_work> :)
[08:14] <reiki_work> bob2: thanks!
[08:14] <gm78> keene, have u tried the linspire build? or the autopackage build?
[08:14] <bob2> Kyral: you can set it up like that, yes
[08:15] <Kyral> and the private key is for what then?
[08:15] <Kyral> sorry I'm new to the whole SSH setup thing
[08:15] <darkheart> gm78 It's in the backports collection.
[08:15] <Versed> I was in compusa today, they had linspire there for sale.
[08:15] <bob2> Kyral: public key cryptography relies on the key being in two bits: the public and private parts.  the public bit you can safely give to anyway, private bit has to stay absolutely secret.
[08:15] <gm78> darkheart, ah, ok, i didnt know that
[08:15] <Kyral> ah
[08:16] <Kyral> hence the password encryption
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: they're linked by a mathematical thing that means you can ecnrypt something with one half that can only be decrypted by the other half
[08:16] <engie> I'm trying to run banshee. It's a mono app, and complains that it can't load the System, System.Data, System.ComponentModel.EventHandlerList and System.Data.IDbConnection Assemblys... This strikes me strange - how do I check mono is installed OK?
[08:16] <Versed> friggin $50, linspire is giving the same package away for download right now.
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: right, the private key is encrypted with a normal symmetric thing to help keep it secret
[08:16] <darkheart> reiki_work Oh, but if you want to theme gnome, you gotta look for gnome themes =)
[08:16] <keene> I'm just about to try the linspire build, since I still can't find it in the repositories
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: gpg works the same way; people encrypt stuff to you using your public key, and no one without your private key can decrypt it
[08:16] <Kyral> so people need the public key to ssh to me?
[08:17] <darkheart> keene Did you examine the link that ubotu sent you?
[08:17] <sushubh> which gaim version to install on ubuntu?
[08:17] <engie> Is mono in breezy broken at the mo?
[08:17] <mindmedic> engie, nope it works
[08:17] <bob2> engie: if it is, file a bug
[08:17] <bob2> engie: but it seems to work here
[08:18] <engie> bob2: On a mission, filing away...
[08:18] <ubuntulnx> bob2, anything needs adjusting at kernel level?
[08:18] <Kyral> what does this mean in terms of ssh?
[08:18] <mindmedic> engie, it is the <IP_ADDRESS> version
[08:18] <bob2> ubuntulnx: for what?
[08:18] <gm78> bob2, you are always here. do you work for canonical (just curious)?
[08:18] <inthenow> jamey3: did you get anywhere?
[08:18] <bob2> Kyral: it means you can generate a keypair and put th public bit on the remote machine, so yo ucan ssh without a password
[08:18] <ubuntulnx> bob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone?
[08:18] <bob2> gm78: no, I'm just dumb and waste time here
[08:18] <dazjorz> how to list all folders in a directory that start with .
[08:18] <bob2> which I need to stop doing
[08:18] <dazjorz> not the contents, just the dir itself
[08:19] <bob2> dazjorz: ls -da .*
[08:19] <keene> darkheart, yeah I did
[08:19] <gm78> bob2, lol
[08:19] <Kyral> ah
[08:19] <bob2> I used to work for canonical
[08:19] <Kyral> so anyone with the Public key can ssh to me?
[08:19] <gm78> bob2, how come you left (again, just curious)?
[08:19] <Kyral> well, assuming they have an account
[08:19] <darkheart> keene Well add the backports repository and install nvu with apt-get
[08:19] <mcphail> bob2: did you get sacked for spending too much time on IRC?
[08:19] <gm78> mcphail, lol]
[08:20] <bob2> gm78: time to get a "real job" ;)
[08:20] <mcphail> ;p
[08:20] <bob2> mcphail: haha
[08:20] <inthenow> I have onboard audio and an extra sound card in my system. But on the sound card is working.. is the nforce2 onboard audio supposed to work as well?
[08:21] <gm78> bob2, im curious....does canonical have any customers yet...or is mark shuttleworth still doing ubuntu just for the benefit of the community? a lot of people have asked that elsewhere
[08:21] <bob2> gm78: it has customers
[08:21] <linukso> Hi! I am trying to install hoary on a dual P3, but the smp kernel wont load, it is complaining about device nodes and initrd.
[08:21] <bob2> but I don't know what information is public and what is not, so I can't say any more than that, sorry
[08:21] <xSpecialistx> who know dc_gui???
[08:21] <gm78> bob2, oh, thats alright, i wasnt asking for specifics :)
[08:22] <keene> How stable is the backports version? It's not the latest release.
[08:22] <gigaclon> I can't login to secure sites with firefox
[08:22] <keene> btw, that means I found it, darkheart, thanks :)
[08:22] <gm78> bob2, they should invest in some remote management tools to compete with zenworks and red hat network....give novell and red hat a run for their money
[08:23] <darkheart> keene Np..If you want a newer version, I'm sure you can find a .deb package somewhere. But I recommend trying the ubuntu package to see how you like it first.
[08:23] <bob2> gm78: apt!
[08:23] <ui> how do i change de foot of gnome menu?
[08:24] <kebaben> i was update my system when my computer turn of, when it restart it was only memtest in grub, i am now in an live cd so i hade add windows xp but i cant add ubuntu because there is no initrd and kernel in /boot/
[08:24] <kebaben> how can i do?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> sry guys
[08:24] <gm78> bob2, apt doesnt have remote monitoring tools and such that are included in zenworks and rhn though. I'm talking about a tool to monitor and admin like thousands of desktops
[08:24] <BiSK-8> but i was out
[08:24] <BiSK-8> can u repete plz
[08:24] <BiSK-8> ?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?
[08:25] <bob2> BiSK-8: unlikely
[08:26] <BiSK-8> and what abt the processor?
[08:26] <Necron69> BiSK-8: /proc/cpuinfo will tell you part of that.
[08:26] <mindmedic> BiSK-8, and your motherboard type should show up on booting, or in the bios setup
[08:27] <Kyral> So this is gonna be fun. As soon as Seveas gets his repo back up, I'm gonna aptInstall the FreeNX package, then download the FreeNX client for Windows ('cause the Build Maintainer for our Linux Lab hasn't installed the client yet) and try it :D
[08:27] <kebaben> noone know how i can do?
[08:28] <linukso> problems solved!!! get linux-686-smp instead of linux-image-686-smp
[08:30] <Cryptid> how do i get ml donkey i tried "sudo apt-get install mldonkey" but it dosent seem to work
[08:30] <ui> how do i change de foot of gnome menu?
[08:31] <darkheart> Cryptid Did you add more repositories?
[08:31] <BiSK-8> mindmedic, necron69, ok.... i see............see i wanna put a new graphix card and a new ramdisk.... for the graphix card i would like a ati raedon x800 but i dunno if it'll work with my motherboard...and i dont know what ramdisk 2 get
[08:31] <Cryptid> darkhear, yes the multiverse thing rite i did add it
[08:31] <darkheart> Cryptid What's the error then?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> what do u think i should do?
[08:33] <Cryptid> no i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work
[08:33] <Kyral> Can FreeNX forward sound?
[08:33] <darkheart> Cryptid What error does it give you?
[08:33] <bob2> X doesn't do sound
[08:34] <Cryptid> darkheart, when i tried sudo apt-get install mldonkey it says package not found what do i do?
[08:34] <Kyral> bah
[08:34] <Cryptid> darkheart, no i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work
[08:34] <Necron69> BiSK-8: I don't much about ramdisks, but assuming the video card and motherboard support the same level AGP interface, I don't know why you'd have a problem with it.
[08:34] <BiSK-8> well
[08:34] <BiSK-8> my mb is 3 years old
[08:34] <bob2> presuably ram disks use IDE
[08:35] <bob2> also, it sounds like you just have too much moneyt
[08:35] <sportman> there is audio in ubuntu, but not for cedega
[08:35] <darkheart> Cryptid Okay..what exactly is going on? If it says package not found when you tried to install it, why would you think it was installed?
[08:35] <ubuntulnx> bob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone, do i need to change settings in the kernel i get from ubuntu?
[08:35] <Necron69> BiSK-8: You need to get the specs on the board.   Manual or manufacturer's website.
[08:35] <chicken-man> Hi every one
[08:35] <Kyral> Anyway it would be faster and more secure
[08:35] <darkheart> Cryptid And if it was installed, but when you run 'mldonkey' on the command line and it doesn't work, then it produces an error.
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntulnx: I doubt that's the problem
[08:35] <dwerf> how do i install cedega (or whatever) from the shell?
[08:35] <sportman> rtfm
[08:35] <sportman> its easy to install
[08:36] <Kyral> !lart sportman
[08:36] <sportman> go to the cedega howto on the cedega website
[08:36] <dwerf> of course
[08:36] <BiSK-8> necron69....ok
[08:36] <BiSK-8> thanks
[08:36] <ubuntulnx> bob2, ok, 1st stop bios. thx!
[08:36] <sportman> download the .deb of point2play
[08:36] <Cryptid> darkheart, in terminal it says command not found but i am sure it got installed the time i tried to get it from synaptec
[08:36] <sportman> and do dpkg -i cedegapoint2play.deb
[08:36] <sportman> or what ever it is
[08:36] <topyli> ooh! ubotu now has a BFG9000! pr33r ubotu's skillz!
[08:37] <darkheart> Cryptid Well, open synaptic and search for mldonkey and tell me for sure if it's installed or not.
[08:37] <sportman> but im having trouble with audio in cedega
[08:37] <sportman> its wierd, i got audio in every other program
[08:37] <Cryptid> ok
[08:38] <mcphail> sportman: ask ubotu about sound. It might help.
[08:38] <Cryptid> darkheart, hehe its not installed u were rite now it shows mldonkey server and mldonket-gui which 1 do i install
[08:38] <Krneki> hay
[08:38] <Rockett18> !sound
[08:38] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[08:38] <Krneki> guys where is in ubuntu startup manager
[08:38] <dwerf> sportman > ok
[08:38] <Krneki> that i can add programs to startup
[08:39] <Answer> Question: I need some help with GREP SED AWK anybody an expert? :)
[08:39] <darkheart> Cryptid You want both. mldonkey-server is the backend, mldonkey-gui is the GUI interface to manage it.
[08:39] <bob2> Krneki: what would you want to add?
[08:39] <bob2> Answer: it's way easier if you just ask your question
[08:39] <p0windah> answer: just ask
[08:39] <gigaclon> can I safely remove firefox without messing up the system?
[08:39] <bob2> gigaclon: it's easier not to
[08:39] <Krneki> i want add my web server, ipv6.sh (settings for tunnel) and firewall
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: your webserver is already running
[08:40] <Cryptid> darkheart, thanx for all ur help now i will install it and if i have ne problem i will let u know. do u use mldonkey?and if u do, do u like it?
[08:40] <sportman> lol
[08:40] <Krneki> no it is not
[08:40] <gigaclon> I want to downgrade because firefox is not letting me do secure logins
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: tunnels settings can be done in better ways
[08:40] <sportman> that ubuntu sound thing is not helping
[08:40] <sportman> but w.e.
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: every web serever in ubuntu runs automatically
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: as for firewall, /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian
[08:40] <bob2> unless you did something silly like compiling apache
[08:40] <Cryptid> darkherat, are the server and gui the only 2 files i need or are there ne more files
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid Np, I am actually leaving in a few minutes =\ but no, I don't use mldonkey. I tried it and it seemed really nice, but it didn't work as it was and I didn't feel like trying to make it work at the time.
[08:41] <Krneki> so is there any startup thing in ubuntu or not
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid I use aMule
[08:41] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I just ran the ATI installer.  Now to complete it, I just copy the xorg.conf to my /etc/x11 directory, right?  but I don't have permission.  what do I do??
[08:41] <bob2> Krneki: of course, update-rc.d
[08:41] <reiki_work> bob2: what may be confusing is that Ubuntu's default web ends up in /var/www/apach2 instead of simply being in /var/www
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid Only the server and the gui should suffice, I believe.
[08:41] <mcrandello> does anyone know what package I would find intltoolize in?
[08:41] <bob2> Krneki: but you don't need it in practice
[08:41] <mcrandello> autogen.sh is not working without it
[08:41] <bob2> mcrandello: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <Answer> Question: I want to search through a text file for lines that begin with Battery, and also have the previous line (which begins with Fri).  grep -e ^Fri -e ^Battery almost works but there are extraneous ^Fri lines
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid But read the package descriptions as well, maybe you'll want something else.
[08:41] <bob2> KanRiNiN: it's best to ignore it entirely and follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <Krneki> canyou tell me where can i find it
[08:42] <mcphail> Krneki: yes. There are a couple of ways to start things up at boot
[08:42] <Krneki> so tell me some ways
[08:42] <bob2> Krneki: it's installed by default
[08:42] <reiki_work> bob2: clarifying... /var/www is the ROOT web, but the apache default site ends up in /var/www/apache2
[08:42] <Answer> Question: Anybody got madwifi debian package?
[08:42] <Cryptid> darkherat, i installed aMule all went well but it didnt startup when i clicked on it the same happens with XMMS and BMP my sys is all screwed up
[08:42] <Krneki> which command would that be
[08:42] <bob2> reiki_work: ah
[08:42] <bob2> Answer: no, there's no point, the ubuntu kernels include the madwifi drivers
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: reeeally... are there config files or anything?
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: documentation proving that the ubuntu kernel includes madwifie? :)
[08:43] <bob2> Answer: ...
[08:43] <bob2> no, I'm lying to you
[08:43] <Krneki> so tell tell
[08:43] <Krneki> :D
[08:43] <darkheart> Cryptid I have to go in a couple min, but open a console and type 'xmms' and tell me what it says
[08:43] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: Where can I find more information on madwifi drivers incorporated with the ubuntu kernel please?
[08:43] <dwerf> this is weird: my desktop is like half-locked - with context menu's missing and i can't right-click taskbars
[08:44] <bob2> Krneki: but none of those 3 problems require adding init scripts
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: I don't understand what you want to know
[08:44] <p0windah> dwerf: you just upgraded to breezy ?
[08:44] <KanRiNiN> thanks bob2, what's the command to restart gnome?  ctrl alt esc?
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: the drivers come installed by default
[08:44] <dwerf> yes i think i did
[08:44] <mcrandello> bob2,: thx
[08:44] <dwerf> or would i know for usre
[08:44] <p0windah> dwerf: reboot and enjoy new kernel goodness
[08:44] <Answer> bob2: A webpage I can show my boss that proves such
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: packages.ubuntu.com if for some silly reason you think I'm lying
[08:44] <dwerf> thanx
[08:44] <Cryptid> darkheart, its ok i dont want to keep u waiting here to answer my stupid question but ne way it says some Xlib not supported
[08:44] <Krneki> oh come on is so hard to tell
[08:44] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:45] <bob2> Krneki: I'm not sure what the point of ignoring my answer is
[08:45] <bob2> you're wasting your time more than mine
[08:45] <boxerboy> anyone else having problems updating breezy?
[08:45] <darkheart> Cryptid Hmm...sounds like you are missing some package which is weird...I'm sorry I have to leave, but ask around, I'm sure you will find help and good luck.
[08:45] <Krneki> i can't run xampp other way
[08:45] <p0windah> boxerboy: reboot after it upgrades
[08:45] <Answer> bob2: Searching packages.ubuntu.com returns no results for madwifi
[08:45] <Krneki> i have it for my server php apache mysql
[08:45] <boxerboy> i cant get the upgrades
[08:45] <bob2> Answer: indeed, you'd have to actually search for the correct module names
[08:46] <p0windah> what do you mean, "can't get" ?
[08:46] <bob2> Krneki: what on earth is "xampp"?
[08:46] <Cryptid> darkheart, thanx for all ur help and yes i will ask some 1 else Bye. and have a nice time
[08:46] <Answer> bob2: What are the correct module names for madwifi ?
[08:46] <boxerboy> its saying couldnt get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock- open
[08:46] <mcphail> Krneki: why install XAMPP when the ubuntu packages are fine?
[08:46] <Krneki> it is program which install all apache php and mysql in one simple install
[08:46] <p0windah> boxerboy: is synaptic open, apt-get XXX running in a terminal somewhere ?
[08:46] <Krneki> :D
[08:46] <boxerboy> unable to lock download directory
[08:47] <p0windah> boxerboy: if you are sure you dont have a process doing updates somewhere, you can just manually delete the lockfile
[08:47] <mcphail> Krneki: so is apt...
[08:47] <bob2> Krneki: that's silly, sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:47] <boxerboy> synaptic is only thing open
[08:47] <reiki_work> Krneki: don't do that in Ubuntu. Install apache2, install mysql, install php
[08:47] <Answer> bob2: I am showing madwifi for 386 as a linux-restricted-module which means it is not included by default?
[08:47] <bob2> Answer: incorrect
[08:48] <mititelu`> hello, how can i make xmms work
[08:48] <Krneki> yeah when i try nothing work
[08:48] <reiki_work> Krneki: or what bob2 said .... that all-in-one thing you're talking about is not a good idea
[08:48] <sportman> they said that esound server on ubunut was why it didnt work
[08:48] <sedatc> +e sedatc
[08:48] <mititelu`> xmms blocks when i hit play
[08:48] <Krneki> so i do this and work perfect
[08:48] <dwerf> so what's good about breezy?
[08:48] <bob2> Krneki: "nothing work" is not a useful description of a problem
[08:48] <mcrandello> does anyone know what the "autoconf macro directory" refers to and why is automake too stupid to copy the files there itself?
[08:48] <Krneki> only that i have to start it every reboot
[08:48] <bob2> mcrandello: what are you compiling
[08:48] <sedatc> services sets mode +e sedatc
[08:48] <mcrandello> xqf
[08:48] <sedatc> hi all
[08:48] <mititelu`> xmms blocks when i hit play, on any tune, there is no force quit, nothing, it just freezes until i shut down
[08:48] <boxerboy> ill brb im gonna refreash this see if i cant get in it thwn
[08:48] <mititelu`> somebody help me pls
[08:48] <Krneki> and now i need to know how make it run itself
[08:48] <bob2> mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin
[08:48] <bob2> Krneki: I already told you 4 times, update-rc.d
[08:49] <Cryptid> mititelu, even i got the same problem
[08:49] <p0windah> sportman: the paid transgaming support is worse
[08:49] <bob2> Krneki: also, you're wasting your time, you could have installed the packages and had it done by now
[08:49] <sedatc> I have a problem about connecting internet from different lans
[08:49] <sedatc> I can connect internet from my home
[08:49] <mititelu`> thanks i'll try
[08:49] <Cryptid> mititelu`, even i got the same problem
[08:49] <bob2> Cryptid: then follow the same solution
[08:49] <p0windah> dwerf: nice new gnome stuff
[08:49] <mititelu`> now i have to reinstall ;-)
[08:49] <juerry> how can i download another version of the kernel?
[08:49] <Cryptid> bob2, ok
[08:49] <p0windah> dwerf: and ooo
[08:49] <bob2> mititelu`: of course not
[08:49] <mcrandello> is there some directory buried under /usr or is it someplace in the source tree I have to copy these things? I already tried the same dir as autogen.sh and it still didn't find them :(
[08:49] <sedatc> but I cant connect from my job
[08:49] <bob2> juerry: why?
[08:49] <dwerf> like what?
[08:49] <mcphail> Krneki: how often do you update the packages installed by XAMPP? Have you patched for the latest apache exploits? apt-get does this for you...
[08:49] <bob2> mcrandello: what are you compiling?
[08:50] <sedatc> why cant
[08:50] <mcrandello> bob2, xqf
[08:50] <Krneki> am
[08:50] <p0windah> dwerf: I think there is a changelog .. :)
[08:50] <Krneki> i do XAMPP yesterday
[08:50] <mcrandello> there's a package but it's a bit out of date
[08:50] <Cryptid> bob2, but what is the solution
[08:50] <Krneki> no afraid about bugs
[08:50] <Krneki> :D
[08:50] <dwerf> where can i find it?
[08:50] <bob2> Krneki: and look, a day later you're still stuck on it
[08:50] <bob2> mcrandello: xqf - X-based Quake Server Browser
[08:50] <bob2> mcrandello: (it's already in ubuntu)
[08:50] <Krneki> it works good
[08:50] <p0windah> I'm sure there is a link on the main ubuntu.com site
[08:50] <bob2> Cryptid: 04:48:53           bob2 | mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin
[08:50] <mcrandello> bob2, I need the nweer version
[08:50] <bob2> Krneki: except it doesn't start, how useful
[08:51] <Krneki> i can't help i don't know how to configure mysql and php that will work phpmyadmin and so on
[08:51] <bob2> mcrandello: then you need to read the configure.in or .ac to find the config/ dir
[08:51] <p0windah> read the top news article on right hand side of ubuntu.com site dwerf
[08:51] <benjam1n> how do i add a top-level menu under the gnome applications menu?
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: you don't need to configure anytyhing if you use the ubuntu packages
[08:51] <mcrandello> bob2, that would = the autoconf macro dir?
[08:51] <Krneki> bob2: so can you please tell me how to add thos thing
[08:51] <bob2> mcrandello: I'd think so
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:52] <Answer> !holy god
[08:52] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Answer
[08:52] <Answer> hhaahah
[08:52] <oracel> can I install the breezy preview and seamlessly upgrade to the full release later?
[08:52] <oracel> or would I have to do a reinstall=
[08:52] <oracel> ?
[08:52] <bob2> oracel: if you follow the instructions, yes
[08:52] <p0windah> no need to reinstall
[08:52] <benjam1n> is there a textfile or something somewhere that i can edit to change the apps under applications, i want to add a category for development tools
[08:52] <Answer> oracel: where there is a will, there is a way
[08:52] <p0windah> oracel: note that the breezy preview is not entirely stable
[08:52] <bob2> p0windah: why?
[08:53] <Krneki> where is update-rc.d located
[08:53] <bob2> benjam1n: /msg ubotu smeg
[08:53] <bob2> Krneki: jesus dude
[08:53] <juerry> bob2: i have 1.25GB of ram, but the system is working with 850
[08:53] <bob2> Krneki: it's in your PATH
[08:53] <p0windah> if it were stable, it would be named preview I'm guessing
[08:53] <bob2> juerry: what cpu?
[08:53] <p0windah> and they wouldnt be saking for community feedback on problems ?
[08:53] <Krneki> ok
[08:53] <p0windah> asking, too
[08:53] <Krneki> founded
[08:53] <Krneki> D:
[08:53] <Krneki> :D
[08:53] <juerry> bob2: p4
[08:53] <mcrandello> bob2, okay I didn't see anything that looked obvious I'm gonna copy *.m4 into every damn dir in the source tree that should get sometwhere right?
[08:53] <oracel> p0windah, I haven't been running anything even remotely close to stable the last few days; breezy will probably feel like the rocky mountains to me now :)
[08:53] <bob2> juerry: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[08:54] <p0windah> oracel: just so you know :)
[08:54] <bob2> mcrandello: that seems suboptimal
[08:54] <mcrandello> bob2, I know :(
[08:54] <p0windah> oracel: but you should be fine, just apt-get dist-upgrade and you're good :)
[08:54] <oracel> 01101010 downloading! 01010001
[08:54] <p0windah> I smile too much
[08:55] <mcrandello> bob2, I just can't beleive that something with the word "auto" in it could be so damn frustrating compared the the "manual" method (./configure;make;make installl)
[08:55] <juerry> bob2: thank you very much
[08:56] <bob2> mcrandello: do you know what autogen.sh is?
[08:56] <dwerf> is it possible to upgrade to breezy, or is it a full install?
[08:56] <bob2> Krneki: so, a) you're wasting yours and our time, b) don't /msg me
[08:56] <bob2> dwerf: of course
[08:56] <mcrandello> I'm under the impression it automatically creates config files
[08:56] <dwerf> me so silly
[08:56] <Answer>  /msg bob2 for a good time
[08:56] <mcrandello> for the lucky people, that is
[08:56] <p0windah> dwerf: you're in for a treat
[08:56] <bob2> Krneki: if you want to go and make it hard for yourself by using "LAMPP" or whatever, read /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[08:56] <dwerf> can i do it from the shell?
[08:57] <sportman> hey should gma900 work with hardware accell
[08:57] <sportman> right away?
[08:57] <p0windah> sure can
[08:57] <sportman> i get this error direct rendering: No
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: hint: put init scripts in /etc/init.d/ and install them into runlevels with update-rc.d
[08:57] <sportman> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:57] <bob2> mcrandello: no
[08:57] <Krneki> bob2 i can do it your way
[08:57] <Krneki> if you will help me
[08:57] <bob2> mcrandello: it generates the ./configure script, and the ./configure script generates the makefiles
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: remove all this shit
[08:57] <dwerf> how?
[08:57] <Krneki> ok
[08:57] <Krneki> go private
[08:57] <Krneki> talk
[08:57] <mcrandello> bob2, that doesn't stop me from hating it
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:57] <dwerf> apt-get breezy? ;-)
[08:58] <p0windah> dwerf: theres probably a page somewhere
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: no, I'm not talking to you in private
[08:58] <bob2> dwerf: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:58] <bob2> dwerf: do not upgrade if you care about binary-only drivers
[08:58] <p0windah> dwerf: but in a nutshell, change hoary in /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy, then apt-get update; apt-get distupgrade
[08:58] <Kyral> Is there any other way to get FreeNX other than through Seveas repo?
[08:58] <Answer> !tell dwerf about breezy
[08:58] <KanRiNiN> bob2, thanks much for the binary link.  they're working fine now.  I have an error message now when gnome loads up though.   I took a screenshot, can you look at it and give me your thoughts?
[08:58] <Krneki> ok
[08:58] <p0windah> apt-get dist-upgrade, rather
[08:58] <Krneki> so what do i do
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: so, stop talking and start reading
[08:58] <Krneki> ok
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: I've given you complete solutions to both options
[08:59] <Cryptid> what to i press to see the running process list like ctrl+alt+Del in windows what is it in ubuntu
[08:59] <bob2> KanRiNiN: best to include urels in questions like that
[08:59] <gigaclon> bob2, can you help me with my firefox problem
[08:59] <Krneki> ok so what do i do
[08:59] <mcphail> Cryptid: top
[08:59] <KanRiNiN> error activating xkb configuration
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: so, stop talking
[08:59] <venzen> Crypt: type: ps aux
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: and then read again what I said
[08:59] <meuserj|work> Cryptid, or run gnome-system-monitor
[08:59] <Krneki> i need full server apache php mysql and phpmyadmin
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: I've told you 5 times how to unbreak your mess, and twice how to do it properly
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: again, shut up
[09:00] <bob2> Krneki: and read what I've said
[09:00] <Krneki> where what you say
[09:00] <Answer> bob2: just ignore him... there's no need to be rude
[09:00] <bob2> Krneki: scroll up
[09:00] <Krneki> i remove xampp
[09:00] <p0windah> we all have a shitlist, use it
[09:00] <bob2> there is when people insist on wasting my time and being rude to me
[09:00] <bob2> and everyone else's
[09:00] <Answer> you are wasting your own time by responding to him
[09:00] <Krneki> i lost myself in this txrt
[09:00] <bob2> indeed
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: /lastlog bob2, and read
[09:01] <cyphase> is there any way to make linux play .mov sound?
[09:01] <p0windah> Krneki: it might be easier if you did a little searching on the ubuntu community forums
[09:01] <bob2> I have an odd desire to reform people who annoy me
[09:01] <bob2> the forums will give you even worse advice
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: reboot
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:01] <Answer> bob2: don't paste in here! hehehe
[09:01] <p0windah> heh
[09:01] <mcrandello> bob2 I hope I'm not annoying you too much
[09:02] <p0windah> mcrandello: you are
[09:02] <mcrandello> I thought so :(
[09:02] <p0windah> hell, he hates irc
[09:02] <gigaclon> anyone else have problems with https logins in firefox
[09:02] <Krneki> i still don't see anywhere any packages (which one has to be installed)
[09:02] <Answer> mcrandello:  you are ok.  please state your question in one line :)
[09:02] <p0windah> gigaclon: nope
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[09:02] <bob2> 05:01:40           bob2 | Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: again, be quiet and read
[09:02] <Answer> Krneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages
[09:02] <dwerf> downloading breezy right now - i know it's beta, but it's probably ten times more stable than any new release of windows
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: that command installs those packages
[09:03] <gigaclon> any reason why I would be unable to use secure logins in firefox
[09:03] <Krneki> which command
[09:03] <Krneki> :(
[09:03] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[09:03] <bob2> sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:03] <venzen> giga: you have a firewall?
[09:03] <gigaclon> no
[09:03] <Answer> gigaclon: give the url you want to login to
[09:03] <kevogod> gigaclon, Does it pop up a dialog box?
[09:03] <gigaclon> no
[09:03] <gigaclon> its https sites
[09:03] <gigaclon> like paypal
[09:03] <venzen> giga: url?
[09:03] <gigaclon> www.paypal.com
[09:03] <mcrandello> Answer, I am looking for the directory in which to copy a whole bunch of m4 files for autogen.sh. What variable would I look after in configure.in?
[09:04] <venzen> giga: in general?
[09:04] <mcrandello> crap that was two lines
[09:04] <gigaclon> yeah
[09:04] <bob2> mcrandello: why are you running that at all?
[09:04] <KanRiNiN> bob I found the problem.  my xorg.conf file is completely empty.  but yet the driver loaded.  any ideas?  can I generate a new one?
[09:04] <gigaclon> anything that is https
[09:04] <Krneki> is that all
[09:04] <Krneki> :D
[09:04] <bob2> mcrandello: just get the tarball
[09:04] <bob2> KanRiNiN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <Kyral> Seveas, should I just wait until tomarrow EST to try the server?
[09:04] <Answer> mcrandello: please state your problem and what you hope to accomplish.  there may be alternatives
[09:04] <Gavrila> guys I don't understand... breezy just updated when I load X with fglrx on my laptop the screen is "blurry"
[09:05] <Gavrila> if I load it with ati driver instead it is fine
[09:05] <Kyral> You have to reinstall it
[09:05] <karma_> Hello! I need advice on software: i need prog that acts like "tail -f", but colourful and can work with multiple files simultaneously
[09:05] <Gavrila> Kyral, to reinstall what?
[09:05] <Krneki> am how do install phpmyadmin?
[09:05] <Kyral> aptInstall the fglrx_config package
[09:05] <p0windah> bob2: I feel your frustration
[09:05] <Kyral> and run it
[09:05] <mcrandello> I;m trying to compile the cvs of xqf to get support for some stuff that was just added. I'll get the tgz here in a sec and see if it has it
[09:05] <gigaclon> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[09:06] <p0windah> Krneki: type /msg p0windah please, o lord help me
[09:06] <ompaul> Gavrila, at the end of the day, that is because ati have not open sourced their card
[09:06] <Krneki> am no
[09:06] <p0windah> I beg of you, let me help you out and spare the channel from your repetition
[09:06] <Gavrila> Kyral,  but this same configuration worked well until yesterday with fglrx on breezy
[09:06] <sedatc> hi all
[09:06] <Answer> Krneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages.
[09:06] <Kyral> Gavrila, I've been going through the same thing with the NVidia driver
[09:06] <Gavrila> ompaul, he I know... but this is m laptop and I can't change it...
[09:07] <transgress> hey what package is the fixed font in?
[09:07] <Gavrila> Kyral, and you did rewrite a new xorg.conf to solve it?
[09:07] <Gavrila> and did you*
[09:07] <Kyral> No, I recompiled the NVidia driver :P
[09:07] <sedatc> I want to recover grub after installing windows how can I find which partition my linux is installed
[09:07] <ompaul> Gavrila, well it seems to me that you have been asking that question since around 8am my time this morning
[09:08] <transgress> sedatc: fdisk
[09:08] <sedatc> is there a way that I can see partition table from windows
[09:08] <Gavrila> ompaul, "since" is wrong
[09:08] <ompaul> Gavrila, okay you asked then you ask now :)
[09:08] <Gavrila> I asked it _at_ that time and now after a new upgrade
[09:08] <Answer> sedatc: you need to set the linux partition to active and bootable, probably with fdisk like transgreess said
[09:08] <ompaul> Gavrila, and after every upgrade it will be the same due to the ati card
[09:08] <sedatc> fdisk is a windows command or linux
[09:08] <Gavrila> ompaul, I don't see the reason for it
[09:08] <claudia> hi!
[09:09] <Answer> sedatc: fdisk is a dos command :)
[09:09] <Gavrila> I mean tis is not my first updgrade and it always worked fine
[09:09] <claudia> I have a lot of .ogg files here and my MP3 player cant play them
[09:09] <sedatc> Answer: I couldnt make it run in winxp
[09:09] <Gavrila> I still don't understand if it's aknown bug now or if it has to be investigated further
[09:09] <claudia> I heard that .ogg files are music files like .mp3 but my MP3 player cannot play them
[09:09] <venzen> claudia: which player?
[09:09] <claudia> is there a command line converter for ogg to mp3?
[09:10] <claudia> venzen, one from Dell
[09:10] <claudia> its also an usbstick
[09:10] <Gavrila> "ati" driver makes my windows scrolling a pain :(
[09:10] <sedatc> I have a bootable ubuntu but I lost grub
[09:10] <venzen> claudia: then it can't!
[09:10] <Answer> sedatc: boot into ubuntu and reinstall grub then
[09:10] <claudia> like, oggToEnc path_to_folder_with_oggs
[09:10] <venzen> claudia: what does dell say?
[09:10] <Answer> claudia: search in Synaptic for ogg and install the libraries and stuff
[09:10] <sedatc> Answer, but I cant boot into ubuntu because of windows
[09:10] <venzen> Answer: claudia is talking abt a hw player
[09:11] <GoClick> !dvd
[09:11] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:11] <ompaul> Gavrila, if you feel it is a bug - go for it, if wrong good, if right at least it has been reported
[09:11] <claudia> venzen, does such a converter exist?
[09:11] <mcphail> claudia: if you convert from ogg to mp3, the quality will be awful
[09:11] <ompaul> Gavrila, and no doubt you will get a reply one way or the other
[09:11] <sedatc> Answer, Since I installed windows after ubuntu I lost ubuntu and Grub
[09:11] <claudia> mcphail, i know
[09:11] <claudia> but i have to do it
[09:11] <ompaul> !tell sedatc about restore
[09:11] <sedatc> Answer, so I cant boot into ubuntu
[09:11] <claudia> the sources are gone
[09:12] <transgress> hey can someone tell me... is the fixed font supposed to be in xfonts-base?
[09:12] <claudia> so I cant recreate mp3 files from them (besides i dunno how to do it)
[09:12] <ompaul> !tell sedatc about grub
[09:12] <ompaul> sedatc, that message from ubotu will help
[09:12] <Answer> sedatc: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5d;Q313348
[09:12] <umberleigh> can anyone reccommend a kde based firewall gui and/or point me to some reviews?
[09:13] <luzbelito> hi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????
[09:13] <Answer> umberleigh: shorewall is a firewall
[09:13] <sedatc> ompaul, I read the staff about rescue
[09:13] <dazjorz> heya
[09:13] <claudia> no ogg->mp3 converter exists? bad :(
[09:13] <dazjorz> I need this file: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:13] <dazjorz> where to get it ?
[09:13] <mcphail> claudia: you need an ogg player that will output to stdout and an mp3 encoder which will read from stdin.
[09:13] <Gavrila> ompaul, ok I'm reporting
[09:13] <venzen> umber: shorewall is good, smoothwall is easier
[09:13] <annex> I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  Any ideas on how I can
[09:13] <ompaul> Gavrila, seems like the best thing to do
[09:13] <Answer> sedatc: "How to Use the FDisk tool"  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867/
[09:13] <claudia> mcphail, and for over 30 ogg files?
[09:13] <claudia> this is going to take ages!
[09:14] <rchv> hola
[09:14] <umberleigh> Answer, venzen: can you point me to any reviews?
[09:14] <bob2> ubotu: redhat crap
[09:14] <ubotu> bob2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:14] <Answer> rchv: #ubuntu-espanol
[09:14] <bob2> dazjorz: then go to packages.debian.org and find it
[09:14] <bob2> you need a ridiculously old package for that
[09:14] <venzen> umber: not really - just my opinion and experience...
[09:14] <luzbelito> hi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????
[09:14] <Answer> umberleigh:  google "smoothwall reviews"
[09:14] <bob2> complain to your vendor for not updating it
[09:14] <dazjorz> bob2: huh ?
[09:14] <bob2> luzbelito: omg!!111
[09:14] <Answer> umberleigh: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/1552242&from=rss
[09:15] <bob2> luzbelito: system -> preferences -> removable drives
[09:15] <venzen> luz: exactlky
[09:15] <bob2> dazjorz: whatever binary-only software you're trying to run is ridiculously old
[09:15] <umberleigh> thanks guys
[09:15] <tux-rox> claudia, http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3. You have to do them one at a time most likely.
[09:15] <sorush20> guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will rum
[09:15] <sorush20> guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will run
[09:15] <luzbelito> bob2, thanks!!!
[09:15] <bob2> sorush20: complain to the nero people; you gave them money, they owe you support
[09:15] <venzen> come again..
[09:15] <transgress> okay i still can't boot into x, i have all the packages i should, i've reconfigured xfonts-base or whatever and xserver-xorg... any more suggestions would be awesome.
[09:16] <Answer> sorush20:  sudo apt-get remove --purge nero
[09:16] <bob2> dazjorz: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/base/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[09:16] <sedatc> ompaul, thank you very much ompaul
[09:16] <dazjorz> bob2: Uplink, the game.