[00:01] <Helena222> Beldar, everything looks absolutely great and perfect, Ubuntu booted perfectly with no warning messages of any missing disk, W8 booted great and has C: and D: as I exactly wanted, so THANKS AGAIN!!!!
[00:05] <lickalott> gents, is there an NZB client that is command line based?
[00:05] <Anonynimity> Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $Display for x11 error
[00:06] <daftykins> lickalott: inappropriate query for here methinks
[00:06] <Anonynimity> Hi Kira.
[00:06] <xar-> daftykins: nzb has plenty of practical uses
[00:07] <Anonynimity> Meth inks?
[00:07] <daftykins> like? :) (serious question)
[00:07] <RainMan28> guys i'm trying to rdp into my ubuntu 12.04 system from windows. I installed xrdp and am able to connect and login but then only see a blank desktop wallpaper
[00:07] <Anonynimity> What are you high? Lol. Jk
[00:08] <lickalott> ok.  sry man
[00:08] <xar-> usenet is essentially a text forum daftykins
[00:08] <xar-> Anonynimity: did you try pine?
[00:08] <Anonynimity> Whats pine?
[00:09] <xar-> Anonynimity: pine supports NNTP
[00:09] <daftykins> xar- wrong guy
[00:09] <Anonynimity> No idea what that is..
[00:09] <xar-> Anonynimity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based
[00:09] <xar-> daftykins: what do you mean?
[00:10] <daftykins> xar-: it was lickalott asking
[00:10] <xar-> ah, lickalott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Usenet_newsreaders#Text-based
[00:10] <xar-> sorry Anonynimity
[00:11] <Anonynimity> Lol
[00:11] <xenoxsis> Hi everyone :
[00:12] <xar-> lickalott: pine looks promising
[00:12] <xar-> lickalott: it's as old as the internet
[00:12] <xenoxsis> Is there a way to start a program automatically in Ubuntu? At startup I mean?
[00:12] <lickalott> tks!  i'll check it out.
[00:13] <lickalott> xenoxsis, stick it in /etc/rc2.d as a script
[00:13] <Anonynimity> Gnome works but i have no toolbar (applications, places, etc...
[00:13] <lickalott> or make a cron job
[00:13] <xar-> xenoxsis: @reboot cron task; @reboot /path/to/script
[00:13] <xenoxsis> lickalott, very much a new linux/ubuntu user here - So could you elaborate a touch as to the "script" part? :)
[00:13] <xar-> xenoxsis: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[00:13] <lickalott> ^^
[00:14] <xenoxsis> lol - thanks :) And I'll find cron jobs in there I take it :)
[00:14] <xar-> xenoxsis: also: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[00:14] <xenoxsis> oh I thought it was a "ubuntu getting started" guide :)
[00:15] <ampro> In GThumb, does anyone know if there's a way to apply a tag to multiple photos at the same time?
[00:15] <Anonynimity> Batch-tag?
[00:16] <RainMan28> how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?
[00:16] <instar> Hi all
[00:16] <Anonynimity> -D?
[00:16] <ampro> Anonynimity: Is that an answer?  Is it a command line option or something?  Or are you looking for clarification from me?
[00:16] <xenoxsis> xar-: thank you so much :) It's somewhat confusing to move to linux when you've always used windows :)
[00:16] <ampro> Anonynimity: Yes, though, that's what I"d like to do, I just don't know how to do it.
[00:16] <Anonynimity> It was clarification... Was half joking...
[00:17] <xar-> xenoxsis: if you can read and have patience, you'll be fine. good luck :)
[00:17] <ampro> Anonynimity: ok
[00:17] <xenoxsis> xar-: I read...And as for the patience, we'll have to see :) But so far I've managed - Thanks :)
[00:17] <Anonynimity> Dont know... Having issues myself... But will find out as soon as this is fixed ampro
[00:18] <RainMan28> how can I automatically accept the defaults when i do apt-get install?
[00:18] <Anonynimity> Using my phone to chat.
[00:18] <ampro> Anonynimity: I've been poking around in GThumb for quite a while, but haven't found a way.  What's your current issue?
[00:18] <Beldar> RainMan28, Context?
[00:18] <Anonynimity> RainMan28 use the default switch?
[00:18] <balsaq> when a person install ubuntu 12.04 and DOES NOT use the advanced partiioning tools, and ubuntu installs as default...how much of a swap partition is created by ubuntu?
[00:19] <RainMan28> Beldar: if I do sudo apt-get install somepackage it then asks Y/n on the package...I want it to automatically just choose the default (Yes in this case) without prompting
[00:19] <balsaq> and also can the swap be made ;ater using a fast usb flash drive?
[00:19] <balsaq> later*
[00:20] <balsaq> thus speeding it up potentially
[00:20] <Chuck_Norris> aloha all...
[00:20] <Anonynimity> Something was removed... Didnt have a gui... Having to reinstall the gui(s) piece by piece. Installed gnome but dont have any sort of applications, etc... Ampro
[00:20] <Beldar> RainMan28, You can run a force I think it's called, could be an issue on a partial or broken upgrade however.
[00:20] <Chuck_Norris> any sugguestion:  http://i.imgur.com/C99fEeR.png  -.-
[00:21] <Anonynimity> Rainman28 use apt-get install thispackage -y -q
[00:21] <RainMan28> ah ok
[00:21] <xangua> Chuck_Norris: on what¿ please describe your issue
[00:21] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: can those flags go before the package name?
[00:21] <ampro> Anonynimity: Have you tried installing the meta-package?  Would probably be something like ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[00:22] <ClickAhead> Hi I'm trying to reinstall over an existing installation. I'm running the live image from a usb disk. I'm only one step from clicking "install now". That is "Device for boot loader installation" I don't know what to select there. My usb drive is selected by default. I had been dual booting with windows. What is the correct option?
[00:22] <Anonynimity> I did install ubuntu-desktop ... No unity and still no shortcut panel
[00:22] <Anonynimity> Rainman28 use after the package name.
[00:22] <Chuck_Norris> i am just bragging :p
[00:23] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: will apt-get --yes install packagename work?
[00:23] <Anonynimity> I would just use -y
[00:23] <RainMan28> Anonynimity: ok but can i use -y before the package name?
[00:24] <Anonynimity> Ampro installing 510 packages on cli
[00:24] <ampro> Anonynimity: weird, because ubuntu-desktop depends on unity...
[00:24] <Anonynimity> Strange.
[00:24] <ampro> ampro: well then, you do know you can do them all at once if you have the list, right?
[00:24] <ampro> haha, i mean Anonynimity
[00:24] <ampro> talking to myself...
[00:25] <Anonynimity> I dont have the list ampro
[00:25] <balsaq> i did not do custom (advanced partitions) and ubuntu is installing itself as we speak...now i am wondering about thw swap file? it never asked me to make one?
[00:26] <balsaq> will ubuntu make a sawp for me on its own?
[00:26] <ampro> Anonynimity: so how are you doing it?  looking for what you're missing and reinstalling each thing as you figure out it's missing?
[00:26] <Anonynimity> Ampro need help with something else if youre up for it...
[00:26] <Anonynimity> Yup ampro.
[00:26] <ampro> Anonynimity: could certainly try.
[00:27] <ampro> Anonynimity: what did you use to install ubuntu-desktop?  apt-get or software center or what?
[00:27] <Anonynimity> Once im back up and running... Want to port ubuntu touch to the d2att.
[00:27] <dragslave> jhj
[00:27] <Anonynimity> I used apt-get on the cli ampro
[00:27] <ampro> Anonynimity: way out of my league
[00:28] <ampro> Anonynimity: I wonder if there's a good reinstall switch that will pull dependencies.  It seems like it probably just saw that the package was already there and said done.
[00:28] <aidalgol> I'm running rsync with --safe-links and --delete, but it's still deleting absolute symlinks that are only on the remote host.
[00:28] <Anonynimity> I tried before but it gave me compile errors.
[00:29] <daftykins> ampro: i had Anonynimity install ubuntu-desktop^ earlier which pulls in all deps.
[00:30] <ampro> apparently not, though, for some reason.  was it already there, or did it actually install it, but not pull dependencies (for some crazy unknown reason,, since that's apt's sole purpose...?)
[00:32] <ampro> Anonynimity: It looks like maybe apt-get -f would help:  http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get  Not sure if that's all of it, or if you'd want to specify ubuntu-desktop or install or anything like taht, but I'd try apt-get -f first and build from there
[00:33] <ampro> Anonynimity: or just --reinstall
[00:34] <ampro> Anonynimity: If you just did install again the last time, maybe it did quit because it as already there and wasn't told to reinstall
[00:34] <Anonynimity> Says client failed to connect to the dbus-daemon
[00:35] <ampro> Anonynimity: what command?
[00:35] <Anonynimity> Apt-get install gnome-*
[00:36] <ampro> Anonynimity: I don't know.  But there has to be a better way (meta-package) to get Gnome, too, though I thought you wanted Unity.
[00:37] <Anonynimity> I do but have to figure something out so i can use the desktop first...
[00:38] <ampro> Anonynimity: Anyway, my recommendation is "apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" with a sudo if you need it
[00:38] <ampro> Anonynimity: and if that doesn't work, trying to figure out the -f switch
[00:39] <Anonynimity> Will try once unity reinstalls. Apt-get install -f
[00:42] <dioioib> if you want gnome desktop you need to install gdm and it takes a little bit to get setup.
[00:44] <ax562> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am looking for a solution.  My problem is when I unmount my external hardrive I cannot remount it unless I restart computer.
[00:45] <Beldar> ax562, YOu have it mounting in fstab?
[00:45] <ampro> ax562: do you unmount or "eject"
[00:45] <ampro> ?
[00:46] <ax562> I eject using the eject button in file manager
[00:46] <Anonynimity> Food!
[00:46] <ax562> I have tried just unplugging drive also with no luck
[00:46] <syadnom> hi all, anyone alive?
[00:46] <Anonynimity> Nope. All dead here.
[00:47] <ax562> the problem is once disconnected the OS doesn't detect it at all
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: Maybe try unmounting in terminal and see if it lets you remount it then?  I think eject is weird with actual drives that aren't detectable
[00:47] <Anonynimity> Lol jk
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: sudo umount /mount/point
[00:47] <Anonynimity> Use the mounts command?
[00:47] <syadnom> anyone running ubuntu w/ '/' as btrfs in a raid1 for data + meta?
[00:47] <ampro> ax562: and if it works you could make a launcher or something for it
[00:48] <ampro> ax562: if you didn't want to have to go to terminal every time
[00:48] <Beldar> !anyone|syadnom
[00:48] <syadnom> I'm entertaining the idea of migrating from my typical raid1 setup to btrfs for simplicity
[00:48] <ax562> ok, that is a solution.  Is that the only way to go?  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly?
[00:48] <ampro> ax562: you tried it and it worked?
[00:48] <syadnom> Beldar, ?
[00:48] <Beldar> syadnom, bots running slow, state the actual issue for help.
[00:49] <Beldar> To the channel not me
[00:49] <syadnom> Beldar, no issue, just fishing..
[00:49] <ax562> ampro: no I do not want to reset computer yet.  Watching live game.  I will on commercial break.  Shouldn't ubuntu work properly though?
[00:49] <Beldar> syadnom, This is support.
[00:49] <ccafns-420> q/ dragslave
[00:50] <Anonynimity> Well ubuntu desktop is half assed working...
[00:50] <ampro> ax562: just a user, myself.  yeah, that would be nice, though!  :)  I have no idea why it gives eject as an option, and maybe that's fixable somehow.  But I don't know how to do it.
[00:50] <ampro> ax562: and that's assuming my solution actually makes a difference
[00:50] <lickalott> xar-, nzbget (in case anyone else asks)
[00:50] <syadnom> so.....not an appropriate place to ask for advice and get opinions then...
[00:50] <ampro> either way, i think my way is easier than rebooting, and harder than it working properly in the first place.  :)
[00:50] <geomyidae_> hi, how can I "dump" my current modeline in the proper xorg.conf format?
[00:51] <geomyidae_> I'm kind of in shock that xrandr accepts modes in that format, but won't dump it back out in that format :/
[00:51] <ax562> I'm coming from 11.04 and never had that problem
[00:51] <ampro> Anonynimity: What did it, and how only half working?
[00:51] <ax562> Isn't LTS long term support?  How much longer to fix this issue lol?
[00:52] <ampro> ax562: Yeah, the older versions didn't do it, I do know that.   And yes, it is, and I don't know :)
[00:52] <Anonynimity> Logs into deaktop. Desktop is blank. No launcher or anything else, cant access terminal, etc.
[00:53] <ampro> Anonynimity: and what did you do to get to that point?
[00:53] <ax562> does anyone know how ubuntu handles mounting in general?  Specifically automatic ext hd detection and mounting?
[00:53] <ax562> maybe I can take a shot at it...
[00:53] <Anonynimity> Apt-get install --reinstall unity then ubuntu-desktop
[00:55] <ampro> ax562: I can tell you that i'm running a livecd of a 14.04 alpha right now and that it seems to work better in this.  so if you're going to upgrade to the next LTS, your solution should be right around the corner.
[00:55] <ax562> I'll be back. reset in progress.
[00:55] <ampro> Anonynimity: hm, weird
[00:55] <Anonynimity> :?
[00:55] <ax562> thanks ampro!
[00:56] <ampro> let me know if umounting manually helps
[00:57] <Anonynimity> Got my panel for gnome atleast
[00:57] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[00:58] <ampro> Anonynimity: Maybe worth reinstalling?  How custom configured was the system, and do you have a backup drive to move your data to?
[00:59] <Anonynimity> Was custom configured all to hell... Took me weeks... No backup drive for this much data...
[00:59] <ampro> Anonynimity: Most of your usual config is going to be in your dotfiles in the home folders anyway, and shouldn't have been deleted when you accidentally uninstalled everything
[00:59] <ampro> Anonynimity: and home folder's on the same partition as root?
[00:59] <owen1> i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'
[00:59] <owen1> any tips?
[01:00] <Anonynimity> I used the autoremove...
[01:00] <Anonynimity> Dont know.
[01:00] <ampro> Anonynimity: Doesn't matter.  Check your home folder with ctrl-h and see
[01:01] <ampro> Anonynimity: if you didn't do it otherwise deliberately, your home folder is on the same partition as root, which makes it harder to restore without a backup drive
[01:01] <ampro> Anonynimity: is your hard drive more than half full?
[01:01] <guest-ibyS7x> I want to be able to map effectual change. As in something with an outcome guaging external pressures on both introverted energy and extroverted energy used toward environmental change.
[01:01] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[01:01] <Anonynimity> Probably ampro... Sec
[01:02] <Anonynimity> Yes. Second os was installed because the pos wasnt booting a gui... Going to remove the partition.
[01:03] <guest-ibyS7x> Any remember back to columbine? There are those inland that do not tolerate the lack of change. And there are soldiers on the exterior of this sphere misdirected.
[01:03] <ampro> Anonynimity: yes was to what?  over half full?
[01:03] <Anonynimity> Yes.
[01:03] <balsaq> can i use a flash drive to make my ubuntu swap...i kinda blew it during install and did not make a big fat swap
[01:03] <ampro> Anonynimity: If you can make a second partition, you coudl use it to back up, then reinstall to first partition, restore, delete extra partition, expand main partition
[01:03] <guest-ibyS7x> "sphere" of circumstances, the designed pressures within the social groups
[01:03]  * balsaq blushes...
[01:03] <Rad-> is gcc installed on ubuntu by default?
[01:04] <Anonynimity> Not taking weeks to reconfigure everything... This is a special ubuntu version.
[01:04] <RainMan28> guest-ibyS7x: who are you talking to
[01:05] <Rad-> Also, what's the difference between libxml2 and libxml2-dev on ubuntu?
[01:05] <Flannel> guest-ibyS7x: Please keep things on topic for this channel, thanks.
[01:05] <RainMan28> how can i manually force an motd to update instead of waiting for the 10 mins to expire?
[01:06] <RainMan28> or better question, why is my motd not updating after i made changes to the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[01:06] <ampro> Anonynimity: but what didn't you lose when you lost your entire desktop?  Up to you, of course, but it sounds like you dont' h ave much more to lose if you coudl back up what you can
[01:06] <Anonynimity> Downloaded the windows 7 source code and rewrote it so ubuntu would understand its instructions... Took some stuff out and added some things... Built it for ubuntu... Can natively run exe files without wine or anything else. Supports ms office.
[01:07] <ampro> hm ok
[01:07] <Anonynimity> I hardcoded that into my ubuntu os itself. I have alot of work lost if i do that.
[01:08] <GraemeLion> You mean the kernel.
[01:08] <GraemeLion> As what you're describing would also include kernel stuff
[01:08] <Anonynimity> So yes...  Kernel was part of it... Yes
[01:09] <ampro> Anonynimity: So just use explorer as your desktop shell :)
[01:09] <GraemeLion> yeah.
[01:09] <Anonynimity> Not that simple. I removed explorer to free up resources.
[01:09] <guest-ibyS7x> talking to RainMan28 now
[01:10] <Flannel> RainMan28: I don't believe the motd itself caches, each individual script in /etc/update-motd.d/ will sometimes do some caching though.
[01:10] <RainMan28> Flannel: ah i changed 99-footer and 01-custom-header and neither of the changes have reflected on login, even after 15 mins of waiting
[01:11] <RainMan28> Flannel: is there any way to clear the cache?
[01:13] <logical> hello everyone,  are there any widgets for ubuntu, i want to put a big clock to the right side of screen, I didnt found anything useful googling only stuff for ubuntu 10 or 11 v
[01:13] <GraemeLion> logical: With some configuration, conky can do that for you
[01:13] <GraemeLion> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[01:13] <logical> i dont know what conky is but i will search for it
[01:13] <Flannel> RainMan28: There is no "cache" in a single location, the scripts themselves do the caching and checking inside the script.  Neither of those do any caching, that I'm aware of.  So they should update every interactive login, via pam_motd.
[01:14] <RainMan28> Flannel: yeah, it doesn't seem to be updating. Should I reboot the box?
[01:14] <ampro> logical: Also, probably way overkill just to get a clock, but KDE is all about widgets these days, so you could always check out Kubuntu.
[01:15] <Flannel> RainMan28: No, that seems silly.
[01:15] <logical> ty for answers people
[01:15] <RainMan28> Flannel: thought so too, just not sure what else to do
[01:15] <RainMan28> Flannel: I have 01-custom-header in /etc/update-motd.d/ set to: sh /etc/update-motd.d/welcom | /usr/games/cowsay -n
[01:15] <RainMan28> if I run that same command from the prompt it works perfectly
[01:16] <RainMan28> but it doesn't seem to be showing at login, instead it shows an old version of contents that were in 01-custom-header
[01:16] <Flannel> So, that's not a new file?  (which means it's likely already set to executable?)
[01:16] <logical> GraemeLion: ampro: what do you think about plexydesk?
[01:17] <logical> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/02/plexydesk-offers-lightweight-widgets.html
[01:18] <GraemeLion> logical: Never tried it
[01:18] <lastk> Is there a way to list a couple of versions of a package? I need downgrade my php version but I just know how to install latest version
[01:19] <ampro> logical: Yeah, I know nothing about it, but it does *look* nice from the screenshots I found.  Not much of a widgets guy, though, personally.
[01:19] <logical> ok, thx
[01:19] <ampro> logical: Can't hurt (much) to try it out :)
[01:21] <logical> well you could help me here, i already tryied to install it but i get something wrong, i will paste the code from terminal..
[01:22] <Flannel> RainMan28: Is the output present when you run `run parts /etc/update-motd.d/`?
[01:22] <daftykins> logical: using paste.ubuntu.com i hope!
[01:23] <RainMan28> Flannel: No command 'run' found
[01:23] <Flannel> RainMan28: Sorry, run-parts
[01:23] <logical> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177191/
[01:23] <ekodauhm> hi, how to enable direct render on a graphic card please ?
[01:23] <logical> daftykins: ofc :D
[01:23] <RainMan28> Flannel: ahh, getting some error messages
[01:24] <guest-ibyS7x> It said 'Do not take the name of root in vain.'
[01:24] <Flannel> RainMan28: Sounds that that's your reason!
[01:24] <RainMan28> Flannel: failed to exec /etc/update-motd.d//01-custom-header: Exec format error
[01:24] <depoop> Hey
[01:26] <ekodauhm> no help ?
[01:28] <RainMan28> Flannel: would the falling not be the right way to run a script in the motd directory: /etc/update-motd.d/welcome | /usr/games/cowsay -n
[01:28] <RainMan28> sorry, following*
[01:29] <Flannel> RainMan28: pastebin the whole 01-custom-header file, and the whole welcome file.
[01:29] <RainMan28> Flannel: ok
[01:29] <ampro> logical: Because of the "unstable" part, it sounds like that error is more meant for Debian.  What version of Ubuntu?
[01:29] <logical> 14.04
[01:29] <guest-ibyS7x> RainMan28, Where was the cowsay gotten?
[01:30] <logical> I would not try to install it if it didnt sayd: To install PlexyDesk in Ubuntu 14.04/13.10/12.10/12.04/Linux Mint 16/14/13 open Terminal (Press Ctrl+Alt+T) and copy the following commands in the Terminal:
[01:30] <ampro> logical: Well, still not released, so I'm not sure it's too unexpected for stuff to still be broken, repos to not be completely full, etc
[01:30] <RainMan28> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/NbWs1jJK
[01:30] <Flannel> RainMan28: You're missing a shebang in 01-custom-header
[01:30] <logical> ampro: i think its the ffmpeg part : The following packages have unmet dependencies:  plexydesk : Depends: ffmpeg (>= 0.cvs20070307) but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <ampro> logical: Do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:31] <RainMan28> Flannel: awesome, thank you
[01:31] <logical> ampro: how do i check that? i am littlebit noobish with linux
[01:31] <RainMan28> Flannel: that fixed it
[01:33] <ampro> logical: Yeah, just checked, and there is no ffmpeg in 14.04 repos (yet?)
[01:33] <Nname> How to fix nvcrtl extension does not exist
[01:33] <logical> ampro: seems like it :)
[01:33] <ax562> ampro: wow more issues lol
[01:33] <ampro> logical: So either it should be added in later, or the functionality has been moved to a different package and the dependencies on the plexy package aren't up to date for the change
[01:33] <ampro> ax562: What's up?
[01:34] <logical> ampro: ok, thx for your time
[01:34] <iHatei> hi
[01:34] <Flannel> logical, ampro: libav, see this transitional package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ffmpeg
[01:34] <ampro> logical: So you could just wait until 14.04 is actually released and see if it works then.
[01:34] <ax562> now everytime I boot for some reason partition manager is looking for ubuntu on ext hd and not internal and errors out
[01:35] <ax562> since i'm running from internal hd
[01:35] <ax562> only way to boot into ubuntu is disconnect ext hd..smdh
[01:35] <ampro> Flannel: Nice catch.  I did the package search on saucy, but didn't read the actual description.
[01:35] <ax562> this had happened before in 11.04 but I would just disconnect and connect once in 11.04
[01:35] <logical> Flannel: which means? xD
[01:36] <ampro> logical: OK, so it is that the plexy package for trusty needs updating.
[01:36] <ax562> but 12.04 does not detect ext hd once os is booted up
[01:36] <ampro> ampro: wherever you're getting it from
[01:36] <logical> ok
[01:36] <Flannel> logical: ffmpeg won't be in 14.04, ffmpeg has been transitioned away from in favor of libav, so the thing you're trying to use that depends on ffmpeg will need to be updated to make use of libav
[01:36] <ampro> ax562: what do you mean by partition manager?  do you mean your bios?  the first thing that comes up before you get into ubuntu boot screens, etc?
[01:37] <logical> Flannel: ok, thank yo
[01:37] <iHatei> i need a rdp client that could run ito a windows server 2012. Not working with Remmina remote desktop client and the program 2xclient dont even wana run o.o im with ubunutu 13.10
[01:37] <iHatei> could someone help me with this plz
[01:37] <Flannel> logical: ffmpeg was forked, that's libav, I'm not entirely sure of all of the details, but they're somewhat related, just not identical.
[01:38] <Flannel> logical: Not that it helps your package woes to know that.
[01:39] <ax562> no I choose ubuntu from boot manager screen and it takes a minute and says cannot access root device and goes into busybox shell
[01:39] <ampro> ax562: so grub then?
[01:39] <ax562> i guess if thats what its called
[01:40] <ax562> this has happened before but 12.04 doesn't detect ext hd unless it is connected on boot
[01:40] <ax562> so if I don't boot with ext hd connected I cannot read ext hd from ubuntu smdh
[01:41] <ampro> ax562: something vaguely like this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bDzu7DPwj0c/UFWOMUHR0pI/AAAAAAAAEvY/G3N7CnTBSjs/s400/Ubuntu+12.04+Boot+Menu.png
[01:41] <syadnom> so I'm testing btrfs on root, I install the system on a btrfs /, then I add the second device and balance.  This works great.  The catch is that now I can't install grub!  grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb errors out..
[01:42] <ax562> ampro: yes that is my grub that comes up every time I boot pc
[01:43] <ampro> ax562: and that's where you're getting the error?
[01:43] <ax562> ampro: the problem is i usually choose ubuntu which is first choice
[01:43] <balsaq> i want k3b to be ubuntu defualt burner-how do i make it default and autiplay
[01:43] <ax562> error after i make choice
[01:43] <ax562> it sits and processes and then says cannot access root
[01:44] <ax562> the problem it is looking on my ext hd for os and not internal hd
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> syadnom: "Not readable"?
[01:44] <ampro> ax562: Ok, it *sounds* to me like your devices are specified badly in grub.  They should be specified by device ID or something like that, which is a long randomish string of characters.  But they might be specified by drive number or something instead
[01:45] <syadnom> error: filesystem 'btrfs' doesn't support blocklists
[01:45] <ampro> ax562: so if there's another drive in there and it gets number 1 (which is why device id should be used in the first place, because the numbering can change), it will try to boot from there
[01:45] <syadnom> also, warning: your core.img is unusually large
[01:45] <ampro> ax562: let me google real quick and see if I can find you anything
[01:46] <ampro> ax562: haha, well here's something describing the problem https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-reliable-device-id-in-grub
[01:46] <ax562> ampro: it gives device id string 43809328-418-321-1 or something
[01:47] <ampro> ax562: what version was originally installed?  12.04 or did you upgrade to that?
[01:47] <ampro> ax562: is that what it says to boot from?  or is that what you're saying the device id actually is?
[01:48] <ax562> ampro: it says cannot access root from string 4-0234--4324-3
[01:48] <ax562> this also happened on 11.04 which I did a fresh install from
[01:51] <ampro> ax562: Well, i'll keep looking to see if I can find you a good site, but I think your problem is in how grub is configured, so I think that's what you should be looking into.
[01:52] <ampro> ax562: Not sure why it would be done wrong if you started with 11.04, since grub 2 was introduced earlier and I think that's when the device ids came in, but maybe there's something there.
[01:56] <tux_> havent tryed 14.04 yet
[01:57] <ax562> ampro: fyi I'm running a wd ext hd 4 interface usb, firewire 400/800, esata connected to a pciexpress esata module
[01:58] <ax562> ampro: it could be that ubuntu is confusing the controller in the hd drive with internal hd?
[01:58] <ax562> this has always happened even in 11.04
[01:59] <ampro> ax562: I don't follow what you mean.  Are all those things chained together with adapters or something?
[01:59] <ampro> ax562: And regardless, I don't think it should happen if grub is set up right.
[02:00] <ax562> ampro: No.  1 external hardrive that can connect in 4 different ways (4 ports).
[02:00] <ampro> ax562: Ok, and it's connected how?
[02:00] <ax562> I'm using the esata port to a pciexpress esata module
[02:00] <ampro> ok
[02:01] <ampro> and your internal is sata?
[02:02] <ax562> ampro: it could be some wierd bug.
[02:03] <ampro> ax562: Here you go, this sounds like what you're dealing with: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=166217
[02:04] <ampro> ax562: Wait, no, that's more complicated.  But similar idea.  Just not exactly a how-to for you...
[02:05] <ampro> ax562: In fact, that's pretty over the top.  But anyway, it describes the UUID and drive renumbering issue.
[02:05] <MaximumTimbo> Hey, has anyone been using 14.04? I was wondering if they fixed the screen dim bug?
[02:06] <Beldar> !14.04 | MaximumTimbo
[02:08] <RainMan28> is landscape-sysinfo not included with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:08] <RainMan28> trying to get some system info stats shown on login via ssh
[02:08] <ampro> ax562: Closer to you and maybe good enough to direct you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171446/how-to-fix-the-uuid-in-grub-after-restore-from-another-machine
[02:10] <ampro> ax562: I'd go more or less with that first answer (the one with 7 up votes), but you probably wouldn't have to change grub.cfg manually since you can boot, so you could probably just use update-grub
[02:17] <jhutchins> ,v landscape-sysinfo
[02:17] <jhutchins> sorry, ubuntu.
[02:18] <ax562> http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/Screenshot-03292014-071541PM.png
[02:19] <ax562> ampro: do those partitions look correct why is sda5 under sda3?
[02:19] <MaximumTimbo> Is there a way to create power profiles? So If I want to switch quickly and easily between profiles on an indicator or something. I understand that I can make the plugged in or unplugged, but I would like to set up different profiles for the different things I do... Does this question make sense?
[02:19] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, in 14.04?
[02:20] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, 13.10
[02:21] <ax562> ampro: I don't remember how it looked before in 11.04 but I doubt this has anything to do with my problem its problem just a sloppy partition setup
[02:21] <Beldar> ah, not sure myself.
[02:21] <gcosmin>  Hi, could I have some help with chmod -R 777 ? http://paste.debian.net/90508/
[02:21] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, I suppose I should just wait a few more days to see what 14.04 has in store...
[02:22] <ampro> ax562: yeah, that looks fine.  dual booting windows?  sda5 is under sda3 because you can only have 4 primary partitions.  if you want more than that you have to add "logical partitions", and they are basically subpartitions of one of the primary ones.
[02:23] <ampro> ax562: and no, technically you dont' really have more than 4, but i guess hte installer did that in case you wanted more eventually or something.  You can have a lot of logical partitions.
[02:24] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, If I was worried, a image/clone of 13.10 would be my default before an upgrade. Or a just general backups.
[02:24] <ax562> ampro: just incase i wanted another primary I would have 1 primary slot left?
[02:24] <wmoxam> Anyone here every successfully mounted a FFS filesystem?
[02:24] <wmoxam> *ever
[02:25] <psusi> wmoxam, afaik, linux only supports it in read-only mode
[02:25] <ampro> ax562: no, if you wanted more partitions you could add them as logical partitions "within" primary partition 3.
[02:25] <wmoxam> psusi: that would be great
[02:25] <ampro> ax562: some resizing might be necessary, of course, but at least it would be possible
[02:25] <ax562> ampro: I'm only dual booting with a stock dell safety backup partition
[02:26] <ax562> windows xp, dell partition, ubuntu
[02:26] <ax562> but I have sda5 under sda3
[02:26] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, How do you mean? For when upgrade time happens? I usually just store anything that isn't in the cloud on to an external and push it back on. As for software... they are all in the repositories...
[02:27] <ampro> ax562: sda5 under sda3 is fine.  I was just figuring you were dual booting because of the sda2 not mounted anywhere but taking up the majority of the drive
[02:27] <ax562> ampro: just wondering if that looks normal.  I ended up wiping 11.04 and creating new ext4 partition during 12.04 lts setup
[02:27] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, We all use different methods, my point being just be prepared for any failure is all.
[02:27] <ampro> ax562: should be fine, and probably not the issue.
[02:27] <ax562> ampro: sda2 = windoze
[02:28] <wmoxam> psusi: AFAICT this should do it: sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb4 /media/myuwmoxam/mymountpoint
[02:28] <MaximumTimbo> Beldar, Oh I'm with ya on that!
[02:28] <wmoxam> but no such luck
[02:28] <Beldar> MaximumTimbo, Additionally it sounds like you are, we just never know is all. ;)
[02:30] <psusi> is it just me or has the automatic codec installer that was once so nice not worked the last few releases?
[02:30] <psusi> it never seems to offer to install the right package to get the needed codec anymore
[02:30] <Beldar> psusi, Heh which one the 3rd party on the install tick?
[02:31] <owen1> i just finished installing ubuntu 64bit on thinkpad. i boot the laptop and i see 'Operating system not found'. any ideas?
[02:31] <Beldar> psusi, I just run the restricted-extras and the libdvdread stuff
[02:33] <psusi> Beldar, yea, I just googled that.. but a few releases ago the got it all sorted out nicely so when you tried to play a video and it needed a codec, it just offers to install it with one click... somewhere along the line that broke
[02:33] <ampro> owen1: not sure i'm able to help with that, but just to know, is ubuntu the only thing installed, or are you dual booting or anything?  And how many drives in the system?
[02:35] <viper474> Owen1: sounds like you need to reinstall the bootloader using the live CD/USB.
[02:35] <topinambury> hi all
[02:35] <ampro> hi
[02:35] <topinambury> could someone explain to me how is it possible that i can install ubuntu from usb stick on asus without any problems
[02:36] <topinambury> but on sony vaio for some reason i get
[02:36] <topinambury> no operating system present
[02:36] <topinambury> or something like that mmnt i check the exact message
[02:37] <ampro> "operating system not found"?
[02:37] <Beldar> topinambury, Handful of reasons, can you boot to the live again.
[02:38] <ampro> ampro: if so, owen1 is having a similar sounding problem with a thinkpad
[02:38] <ampro> talking to myself again...
[02:38] <ampro> oops
[02:41] <cisconinja> how to export gui from 13.10 terminal to windows 7 on a different machine
[02:42] <owen1> ampro: viper474 i hade debian on this laptop. i am trying to override it with ubuntu.
[02:43] <owen1> viper474: should i run it 'without installing' to get rid of the bootloader?
[02:43] <owen1> topinambury: got the same issue. let's scream together (:
[02:44] <ampro> owen1: and you have one partition (plus swap)?  did you install from a livecd or something?  basically, you didn't try to upgrade into ubuntu with a package manager or anything, did you?
[02:44] <owen1> on a thinkpad that had debian before.
[02:44] <owen1> ampro: i installed ubuntu from the official 64bit. it's live cd i assum.
[02:44] <owen1> assume.
[02:45] <viper474> Owen1: this might be helpful even though it says windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:45] <owen1> put the iso on a usb
[02:45] <owen1> viper474: reading
[02:45] <owen1> thanks
[02:46] <depoop> owen1: hey
[02:46] <owen1> what does it mean 'boot into a live session' ?
[02:46] <owen1> viper474: ^
[02:46] <owen1> depoop: ho
[02:47] <owen1> viper474: i have a usb with a live cd. what's my next step?
[02:47] <viper474> Boot from the install medium. Just don't reinstall
[02:47] <owen1> viper474: sorry. i am not sure what does it mean. i insert the usb, boot the machine. what option should i chose? install or run without install?
[02:48] <viper474> Run without install
[02:48] <owen1> viper474: ok
[02:48] <viper474> If you've already tried to install
[02:48] <depoop> viper474: hey
[02:49] <viper474> Owen1: if you don't have anything to lose, then full reinstall could work cleaner
[02:49] <owen1> viper474: not sure how to do 'full reinstall' according to the link u gave me i should run the live cd and install 'boot-repair'
[02:50] <cisconinja> can someone please assist me, i am running 13.10 on a headless server, i am able to ssh to that server. i would like to install VMware workstation 10. but wondering how to do it since i don't have access to the desktop on the headless server. is there a way i can access it from windows 7 machine?
[02:50] <topinambury> ampro
[02:52] <owen1> viper474: i am inside the live cd. should i install and run 'boot-repair'? or should i try the full reinstall approach?
[02:52] <viper474> Owen1: Yes, run without installing and follow the link if you want to recover the option to boot with data that is there currently. Otherwise, is suggest trying to reinstall from the beginning if you have nothing on the drive that you could lose.
[02:53] <owen1> viper474: but i already tried installing twice, and got the 'no operating system' message.
[02:53] <viper474> Owen1: we can try the boot-repair first.
[02:53] <owen1> ok
[02:53] <Pinkamena_D> hi all
[02:54] <viper474> Cisconinja: putty to ssh on Windows?
[02:55] <cisconinja> viper474: i have putty & secureCRT .
[02:55] <balsaq> i am trying to torrent and it s not downloading onto my tramsmission client?
[02:55] <cisconinja> viper474: so from windows i can ssh to my ubuntu , but i don't know how to get ubuntu desktop in my windows machine
[02:56] <ax562> topinambury: you have to have a bios that supports usb flash boot first
[02:56] <ax562> topinambury: does your bios support this?
[02:56] <viper474> cisconinja: there's something like x server forwarding, where you send the graphic over ssh to the windows system...haven't tried it in a while
[02:57] <ax562> ampro: this is my exact error http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv321/axockin/2014-03-29_19-44-51_63.jpg
[02:57] <willwh> cisconinja: yeah X forwarding should do it
[02:58] <ax562> ampro: I tried sudo update-grub
[02:58] <ax562> didn't help
[02:58] <topinambury> well there is option to choose usb stick as boot device
[02:58] <willwh> cisconinja: you need to enable in ssh config though
[02:58] <topinambury> i have put usb stick as first thing
[02:58] <topinambury> so it is supporting flash boot
[02:58] <cisconinja> willwh: viper474 but do i need to install any software in my windows ?
[02:59] <ampro> ax562: and that's the error after you changed things and did update-grub?
[02:59] <owen1> viper474: i see 'WinEFI detected. do you want to activate [Backup and rename windows EFI files]?
[02:59] <willwh> oh, windows, ah
[02:59] <ax562> no I only did update grub
[02:59] <willwh> hmm, I'm not sure how you enable ubuntu's bvasic RDP from the cli
[02:59] <willwh> but you could use that and VNC
[02:59] <willwh> let's see
[02:59] <ax562> I wanted to show you exact problem before I started modifying system files
[02:59] <ampro> topinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?
[03:00] <viper474> owen1: hmm, that would seem correct, however I have not used the tool. Let me look at that webpage again.
[03:00] <ampro> ax562: Ok, so when you're fully booted, do you have a /dev/disk/by-uuid/thatexactlonguuidstring?
[03:01] <owen1> viper474: cool. thanks. i assume it ask me for backup of some sort. i don't care about any files, so my guess would be 'no'
[03:02] <viper474> owen1: well, the word activate throws me off
[03:02] <viper474> maybe it means enable
[03:02] <willwh> cisconinja: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4474/enable-remote-vnc-from-the-commandline should help :)
[03:02] <willwh> install tightvnc or realvnc in windows, to connect
[03:02] <viper474> owen1: that still makes me think your windows info is there, however I haven't used UEFI
[03:03] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ dir
[03:03] <ax562> 07D8-050D			      75ba3c4e-71ee-4f25-8351-dfc2f55fe0bf
[03:03] <ax562> 0e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434  8EE04C65E04C559D
[03:03] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$
[03:03] <owen1> viper474: http://askubuntu.com/questions/339410/unable-to-boot-ubuntu-13-04-alongside-windows-8
[03:03] <ax562> yes
[03:03] <owen1> viper474: it's interesting since i never used windows on this laptop, but maybe the debian never removed this part.
[03:03] <cisconinja> willwh: what aboe x.org
[03:04] <owen1> viper474: in the link i sent u he said to answer 'yes'. so i am hesitante.
[03:04] <willwh> huh?
[03:04] <ax562> funny thing is I just plugged in my phone and ubuntu auto recognizes and mount sd card correctly
[03:04] <ax562> but it will not recognize esata over esata pci express module
[03:05] <cisconinja> willwh: i was thinking maybe export DISPLAY
[03:05] <ampro> ax562: wait, this is a 4 way drive, right?  do the other ways work fine?
[03:06] <ax562> ubuntu456@ubuntu456:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ sudo cat /proc/cmdline
[03:06] <ax562> [sudo] password for ubuntu456:
[03:06] <ax562> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-47-generic root=UUID=0e3e4e98-1e6a-418e-9eb4-632f5c9d0434 ro quiet splash
[03:06] <owen1> viper474: i just hit no. it's installing grub.
[03:07] <ax562> It looks like it is looking for the right disk uuid
[03:07] <Beldar> owen1, save the url to the bootinfo summary
[03:07] <viper474> owen1: UEFI is a void in my understanding, but from what I have heard it i best to try turning it off before installing Ubuntu. Cool, we can see if it boots into Ubuntu after...
[03:07] <topinambury> operating system not found
[03:07] <topinambury> [04:58] <ampro> topinambury: and that same exact flash stick worked on another machine?
[03:07] <topinambury> yes
[03:08] <ax562> I can try usb 2.0
[03:08] <ampro> ax562: could you paste in your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <ax562> I think back in the day i tried usb and it worked but it's horridly slow. usb 2.0 sucks balls
[03:09] <owen1> viper474: Beldar ok. rebooting. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7177471/
[03:09] <Beldar> !language | ax562
[03:09] <ampro> topinambury: strange...  are you sure the flash stick is the first boot device?  Maybe it's failing on something else before it gets to that?
[03:10] <ampro> topinambury: most recent bioses let you hit a different key to go to a boot menu instead of the full blow bios setup.  see if you can do that and select the thumb drive directly from there
[03:11] <ax562> ampro: http://pastebin.com/ipsGggC6
[03:12] <Beldar> owen1, poat that script in this thread, it is the bootrepair developers thread with people there focused on these issues. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[03:12] <Beldar> post*
[03:12] <topinambury> ampro: it is booting from usbg
[03:12] <topinambury> usb
[03:12] <owen1> Beldar: viper474 got the same error
[03:12] <owen1> Beldar: do u think i should try again but answer 'yes'?
[03:13] <jeffrey_f> topinambury: CD in drive?
[03:13] <ax562> topinambury: bios let you choose a boot order internal hd, cd/dvd drive, usb etc
[03:13] <viper474>  Beldar: how does UEFI work on that first partition?
[03:13] <topinambury> ax562: yes
[03:13] <ax562> topinambury: if you want to boot from usb, bios has to support and usb has to be the first in boot order
[03:13] <Beldar> owen1, You have a gpt partition table, so this is a efi boot, not many here really are up on this setup, use the forums as I suggest.
[03:13] <topinambury> bios even allows me to blacklist devices from boot order there is only one thing
[03:13] <topinambury> flash drive
[03:14] <ax562> it has to be usb
[03:14] <topinambury> that usb flash drive is only place where system is searched for
[03:14] <owen1> Beldar: cool. thanks
[03:14] <topinambury> so it is booting from usb
[03:14] <topinambury> but somehow it says operating system not found
[03:14] <topinambury> even the led light on usb is flashing
[03:14] <topinambury> as it is trying to read from it
[03:15] <ax562> I would check image on flash by booting into working operating system (windows) and make sure you have a valid image file on your usb flash drive by opening the image contents
[03:15] <Beldar> owen1, One of the areas people just trying to help without really being sure can mess up what can be fixed is all.
[03:16] <viper474> Beldar, owen1: I agree. Sorry we couldn't be much help..
[03:16] <owen1> viper474: Beldar no worries. i am surprised since i had debain on this thinkpad.
[03:16] <ax562> topinambury: I believe you need a modified ubuntu.img running on usb drive to be able to boot from usb drive.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
[03:16] <owen1> i always assumed ubuntu has a good hardware support.
[03:18] <Beldar> owen1, Both debian and ubuntu have the efi shims, however if it were me I would wipe the partition table, make it msdos and do a mbr install, and have the bios set for that.
[03:18] <topinambury> ok people
[03:18] <topinambury> problem solved
[03:18] <ampro> ax562: topinambury  I think the same image works these days (it's called a hybrid iso) as long as you dd it onto the drive or something similar
[03:18] <Beldar> thank god
[03:18] <topinambury> it was advanced option in setup that said
[03:18] <topinambury> external device boot
[03:18] <topinambury> disabled
[03:18] <ampro> topinambury: haha, geez
[03:18] <topinambury> changed to enabled it started to work :)
[03:19] <ampro> ax562: I don't really know what to tell you at this point.  your grub.cfg looks similar enough to mine and seems to have the right root UUID everywhere.
[03:19] <jasabella> how do i tell saned what addresses to bind to?
[03:20] <ax562> ampro: I'm thinking it might be the timeout issue mentioned in error message
[03:20] <ax562> funny thing it works most of the time smdh
[03:20] <owen1> Beldar: sounds like a solid plan. how do i do that? boot into the live cd again?
[03:20] <ax562> maybe drive is hibernating and it takes more time to wakeup?
[03:21] <ampro> the thing is that grub is on that drive
[03:22] <ampro> ax562: so it can't really be that the drive isn't working yet or anything.
[03:23] <ax562> where could I find rootdelay?
[03:23] <ampro> ax562: I'm still confident it has to do with the drive numbering.  maybe the (hd0,msdos5) in your grub entries becomes wrong?  but i don't really know where to go next
[03:24] <Beldar> owen1, Is the ubuntu there now wipe able, no need to save?
[03:24] <owen1> Beldar: what do u mean 'wipeable'? i have nothing important. it's a new install anyway.
[03:24] <owen1> i just installed ubuntu on top of debian.
[03:25] <owen1> so my ubuntu has nothing.
[03:25] <ampro> ax562: not familiar with that.  and i'd honestly be surprised if that was it.  it might make sense if you were trying to boot from a drive other than the one grub is on, but you're not, so i don't see how that could really be the issue.
[03:25] <Beldar> owen1, cool boot a live cd use the link to purge the gpt and install to the whole disc. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[03:25] <ampro> ax562: but then again, stranger things have happened.  so maybe check it out, but i don't know about it.  google is the linux user's best friend :)
[03:26] <Beldar> owen1, I think you set legacy boot in the bios as well.
[03:27] <ax562> ampro: http://pastebin.com/fLnrq1SV
[03:27] <ax562> sdhci_pci 18749 0 - Live 0x0000000000000000 present
[03:27] <owen1> Beldar: reading.. thanks
[03:28] <Beldar> owen1, Cool, you can do a manual install after the gpt wipe, you just want all the partitions gone first, or written over.
[03:29] <ampro> ax562: I don't follow.
[03:29] <ax562> that is my external hd pci express module
[03:30] <ampro> ax562: not to be difficult - or thick! :) - but... and?
[03:32] <owen1> Beldar: the link u sent me is a bit verbose and confuses me (: do u think this is going to get me to the same goal ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/211477/how-to-remove-gpt-from-hdd
[03:33] <owen1> (removing gpt)
[03:33] <balsaq> can soneed help with transmission
[03:33]  * bet0x installed ubuntu on his phone
[03:34] <Beldar> owen1, Same process, you can use thast one if it makes more sense.
[03:34] <Beldar> that*
[03:34] <owen1> Beldar: awesome. it's easier since it's just the steps to follow.
[03:35] <owen1> Beldar: sudo gdisk /dev/sdX - which partition should i use?
[03:36] <viper474> owen1: sda
[03:36] <balsaq> when we try to download a file it doesnt offer transmission? oit asks choose some application but transmission isnt a choice??
[03:37] <Beldar> owen1, run sudo fdisk -l make sure sda is the HD, a usb boot some times reverses this, no partition just the HD
[03:37] <owen1> ok
[03:37] <Beldar> owen should be sda if not reversed
[03:38] <owen1> Beldar: i see sda1 have GPT
[03:38] <owen1> (using fdisk)
[03:38] <ampro> ax562: oh, sweet.  there's a #grub channel with a fair number of people in it.  I think grub's where your problem is at, or at least where it will probably need to be fixed.  see if anyone in there knows what's going on.
[03:38] <viper474> Beldar, owen1: yeah, sda is the drive. sda1, sda2, and sda3 are patititions for sda.
[03:38] <Beldar> owen1, you have it in the partition table that is sda
[03:38] <owen1> swee
[03:38] <owen1> sweet
[03:38] <owen1> now it ask me if i want to 'blank out MBR'.
[03:38] <owen1> (GPT is destroyed, btw!)
[03:39] <Beldar> owen1, follow the instructions
[03:39] <ax562> ampro: I was just checking correct modules existed and wasn't working mickey moused
[03:39] <owen1> ok. 'y'
[03:39] <Beldar> yep
[03:39] <owen1> ok. done. what's next? boot with my usb?
[03:39] <ax562> ampro: thanks for the help I will check it out
[03:39] <Beldar> owen1, How were you booted?
[03:39] <ampro> ax562: those are kernel modules, anyway, so would have to be loaded after booting from the correct device
[03:40] <grahamsavage_> hey xorg is going crazy on my computer.. 90% cpu...
[03:40] <owen1> Beldar: rigt now i am in live cd (from ubuntu 64bit usb)
[03:40] <ax562> ampro: I just connected through usb 2.0 and it doesn't even recognize hd either while in ubuntu
[03:40] <grahamsavage_> and another process called compiz
[03:40] <owen1> Beldar: i thought of rebooting and chosing 'install'
[03:40] <ampro> ax562: strange
[03:41] <ax562> ampro: yeah, I know kernel modules, but if they are present why doesn't it recognize after os boot?
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: actually, are you sure?  it's not in the shortcuts on the left of nautilus or anything?
[03:41] <Beldar> owen1, boot from whatever you are going to use to install with, and install over the partitions there. Go to the bios first and make sure legacy boot is set.
[03:41] <ax562> i'm on xubuntu
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: ok, thunar?
[03:41] <ampro> ax562: i guess i'm asking because when you hotplug something it will pop it up
[03:42] <ampro> ax562: but it doesn't do that when it's plugged in from the get go
[03:42] <owen1> Beldar: ok. so since i have ubuntu on a usb stick i'll reboot, enter the bios, make sure legacy boot is set, save the bios and install ubuntu.
[03:42] <ax562> ampro: it has now detected ext hd through usb 2.0
[03:42] <grahamsavage_> hmm i guess i'lll have to reboot
[03:42] <ampro> ax562: so i'm just making sure you didn't expect it to pop up on its own when it started out plugged in
[03:42] <ax562> connection was loose lol
[03:42] <ax562> ampro: no detection what soever was my problem
[03:42] <Beldar> owen1, Sounds good, I think you should be set, it should install and put grub in the mbr.
[03:43] <ampro> ax562: troubleshooting step one: check your connections :)
[03:43] <owen1> Beldar: perfect!
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: usb 2.0 worked.  I'm going to reboot and see if boot problem persists
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: that was only for usb 2.0 which I just plugged in minutes ago
[03:43] <ax562> ampro: esata has been an ongoing issue since 11.04 which would happen randomly
[03:44] <ampro> ax562: ok, but if you'd prefer esata, someone who actually knows a fair bit about grub - ie not me :) - might be able to help get that working
[03:44] <ax562> ampro: same exact issue in 11.04, no boot uuid present at root
[03:44] <ampro> weird
[03:45] <ax562> ampro: yeah, it's much faster interface.  Something like 8-12 times faster lmao
[03:45] <owen1> Beldar: in 'UEFI/Legacy boot' should i choose both, UEFI only or Legacy only?
[03:45] <ax562> looks to only happen with esata though
[03:45] <ax562> let me verify brb
[03:46] <owen1> my guess is legacy. since UEFI is windows-related.
[03:46] <Beldar> owen1, legacy only I would think. I also assume you ran the gpt right correct here, hehe.
[03:46] <viper474> owen1: I also vote for Legacy only.
[03:47] <owen1> +1
[03:47] <Beldar> gpt wipe*
[03:48] <owen1> Beldar: viper474 saved the bios and rebooting with the usb connected. instead of the menu for installing ubuntu i am greeted with : ERROR: no configuration file found. No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found! boot:
[03:48] <owen1> and i see a terminal cursur blinking.
[03:49] <Beldar> owen1, Make sure it is booting from the media.
[03:49] <owen1> Beldar: so go back to the bios make sure it boot from usb?
[03:50] <owen1> oh, maybe i deleted the content of ubuntu from that usb.
[03:50] <Beldar> owen1, That is one way there is also a boot from menu outside the bios. It is a prompt like you would for bios but different, the bios splash probably tells you it.
[03:50] <owen1> let me install it using usb-creator-gtk on my other laptop
[03:51] <ax562> ampro: back, no issue while connected to usb 2.0
[03:52] <Beldar> owen1, Once you get to a booted live desktop, run sudo fdisk -l it will tell you if the gpt is still there.
[03:52] <ampro> ax562: ok, well at least you've got that going if you can't figure out esata
[03:53] <Beldar> shold be gone but worth checking
[03:56] <owen1> Beldar: ok
[03:59] <Beldar> !away > megabit|away
[04:04] <Guest43963> ola
[04:04] <tommy_> hi all
[04:05] <Guest43963> como funciona essa rede
[04:05] <Guest43963> nossa
[04:05] <Guest43963> nunca entrei nisso
[04:05] <Guest43963> estranho
[04:06] <Beldar> !pt | Guest43963
[04:06] <tommy__> i am using ubuntu 12.04 on hp 6720S machine, my wifi driver is not installing
[04:07] <Beldar> tommy__, Can you identify the wifi from running lspci in the terminal?
[04:08] <suzana> oi
[04:08] <suzana> oi
[04:09] <tommy__> Beldar, Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)
[04:09] <Beldar> !broadcom | tommy__
[04:10]  * owen1 installing ubuntu
[04:10] <suzana>  boa noite
[04:11] <viper474> owen1: I am anxious to see how it turns out this time.
[04:12] <suzana> ..
[04:12] <owen1> viper474: (: i am amazed with the support on this chat. #debian is great as well, but i think the fact that there are 1500 people here makes a difference.
[04:13] <tommy__> Beldar, i got chip ID and PCI ID, and the driver is available in proprietary driver list, but it is not activating
[04:14] <tommy__> Beldar, sends me to a log file that i cant understand
[04:14] <jeffrey_f> tommy__:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree    THEN   sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:15] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Obtain a wired connection first...
[04:16] <Beldar> tommy__, Not an area I have had ti mess with, the bits link mentions the additional drivers, as should work, and gives other options.
[04:16] <tommy__> Beldar, i got the wired connection but not very good with terminal commands, i do it step by step
[04:16] <Beldar> s/to/bots*
[04:16] <tommy__> Beldar, ok thanks
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: the two commands stated a few lines up should start your wireless to work
[04:17] <baldpope> if I have two versions of automake installed - how do I select which one I want to be the default/system automake?
[04:20] <tommy__> Beldar, it shows warning for the last command that "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."
[04:21] <DrDigita_> anyone able to tell me how to fix this not found error? ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: 466: ./atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin: /home/mmurphy/atlassian-jira-6.2.1-x32.bin.24518.dir/jre/bin/java: not found
[04:21] <tommy__> Beldar, should i reboot now?
[04:21] <Beldar> tommy__, I would ask jeffrey_f
[04:22] <Beldar> I assume you used thier commands, looks right
[04:22] <tommy__> ok
[04:22] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: are you on a wired connection for that machine in question?
[04:23] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, yes
[04:24] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: in terminal copy and paste sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree
[04:24] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, that i did
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> now     sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> you should have wireless now
[04:26] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i did that too but result came with warning
[04:26] <jeffrey_f> what was the warning?
[04:26] <tommy__> jeffrey_f,  "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release."
[04:26] <owen1> viper474: done installing. rebbot
[04:26] <owen1> reboot
[04:27] <viper474>  owen1: crossed fingers
[04:28] <owen1> viper474: looks promising!
[04:28] <owen1> kvm disabled by bios
[04:28] <owen1> ubuntu logo
[04:28] <owen1> yes! yes!
[04:28] <owen1> login screen
[04:28] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm researching...give me a minute
[04:28] <owen1> I LOVE U GUYS
[04:28] <viper474> owen1 Beldar: success. Good work.
[04:29] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok
[04:29] <owen1> Beldar: thanks guys
[04:29] <Beldar> no prob, enjoy
[04:30] <owen1> now i just hope that my hybrid approach is viable. i live in the console %99 of the time. so i plan to install i3 and wicd and remove network-manager.
[04:36] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, are u there?
[04:37] <brontos> Hey all, When I install ubuntu on my machine the installer and the trial part the displays load correctly (2 screens, correct resolution), after the install and when booting from HDD the resolution is low and will only show on 1 screen.
[04:37] <brontos> Any ideas?
[04:38] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm looking.  I think that file can be renamed or even deleted.  Try renaming first      sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak
[04:39] <Beldar> brontos, Might need graphic drivers for resolution..etc, and the 2nd display turned on in displays.
[04:41] <brontos> Beldar, I can't turn on the second display in Displays, as far as resolution, there used to be a install restricted drivers app.  Is it still around?
[04:42] <Beldar> brontos, There is additional drivers in software & updates, be sure a update and upgrade are run first.
[04:45] <brontos> Beldar, hmm the drivers aren't showing up...
[04:47] <Beldar> brontos, Not an area I have had to mess with I have had intel graphics that just work. However here identifying the hardware is helpful, run lspci and name the graphic hardware with your inquiries for help.
[04:49] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, are u still there
[04:49] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Yep
[04:51] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i rebooted my system, hit for the additional drivers, but it still wont install it
[04:51] <jeffrey_f> you renamed the blacklist file?
[04:52] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, i dont know, how can i check it?
[04:52] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: ls /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:53] <brontos> Beldar, This is my drivers: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[04:53] <brontos> Beldar, Sorry hardware
[04:53] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, its still there
[04:53] <savr> hi
[04:53] <Beldar> brontos, You will need help from someone who knows the area better, is all.
[04:53] <savr> how do I upgrade to 14.04?
[04:54] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak
[04:54] <Beldar> savr, You want #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[04:54] <funkyasss> good day
[04:55] <funkyasss> how do i install ubuntu on my android tablet
[04:55] <faqih_dan_kucing> funkyasss, you can install with Linux-on-android
[04:56] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok done
[04:56] <funkyasss> faqih_dan_kucing, it works with any tablet?
[04:57] <jeffrey_f> redo the previous ls....does it show up?
[04:57] <faqih_dan_kucing> funkyasss, yepz
[04:57] <funkyasss> faqih_dan_kucing, how does it launch?
[04:58] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, blacklist is gone
[04:59] <diuneigh> can anyone help me with DC++ on ubuntu?
[04:59] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: udo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[04:59] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: oops  sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[05:00] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, ok
[05:01] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: Any warnings?
[05:01] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, no
[05:01] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: see if you can get a wireless now
[05:01] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, where to check?
[05:02] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: should be a cone looking icon?
[05:02] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, no
[05:03] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, just up and down arrows side by side
[05:03] <jeffrey_f> are you logged into the gui or into a terminal only?
[05:04] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, same results, cant install the driver
[05:05] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware-nonfree && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43
[05:06] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: also, ensure that the wireless is not turned off via a hardware switch, AKA Airplane switch
[05:07] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, button is always orange and is not turning blue
[05:10] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: I'm vaguely familiar with the laptop you have.  I'm not sure if it changes when on or when connected
[05:12] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, lets hope for the best
[05:12] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: are you in the OS gui or a terminal only
[05:13] <tommy__> jeffrey_f, its gui and have a terminal window too
[05:13] <jeffrey_f> tommy__: do you have a wireless icon in the status bar?
[05:15] <tommy__> no only wired
[05:17] <i_need_help_my_f> i really need help
[05:18] <xangua> !ask | i_need_help_my_f
[05:18] <i_need_help_my_f> unopaste_: are you a bot
[05:19] <i_need_help_my_f> i need help recovering my password and please do not refer me to the "ubuntu password help thingy"
[05:19] <mapps> how can i upload a file from say /backups to /home/user/somedir using ftp in the cmd line? getting errors
[05:20] <i_need_help_my_f> ubottu_: i need help recovering my password
[05:22] <jordan2> mapps: if you have curl installed you can use "curl -T my-local-file.txt ftp://ftp.example.com --user user:secret" --superuser
[05:23] <AndChat27729> Ok i just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 and after restart im only able to get in grub rescue prompt with error symbol grub_term_highlight_color not found. Any sugestions?
[05:23] <i_need_help_my_f> anyone hello
[05:23] <Beldar> AndChat27729, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel
[05:23] <i_need_help_my_f> 14.04 is out!?!?!?
[05:23] <Beldar> no
[05:23] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, no, still beta
[05:23] <AndChat27729> Final beta
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> so how did he ubgrade?
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> oh duha
[05:24] <AndChat27729> You can upgrade
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> how
[05:24] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, you can manually initiate the upgrade
[05:24] <i_need_help_my_f> oh cool i had no idea
[05:24] <AndChat27729> Google it for manual upgrade ubuntu
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> but can we focus on my main problem
[05:25] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, give me a sec then
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> ok
[05:25] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, ubuntu password?
[05:25] <i_need_help_my_f> i have bin trying to recover for days
[05:26] <i_need_help_my_f> and yes
[05:26] <i_need_help_my_f> unix login pass
[05:26] <operaghostGK> you should boot it manaly
[05:26] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[05:26] <llutz_> i_need_help_my_f: boot into recovery mode, drop to root shell, set new password "passwd username"
[05:27] <i_need_help_my_f> i cant drop to root shell
[05:27] <operaghostGK> just a few commands
[05:27] <i_need_help_my_f> what?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> onyone there?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> 'anyone'
[05:28] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, what's your problem?
[05:28] <i_need_help_my_f> i need help reseting my unix login password but i cannot drop to root shell
[05:29] <kostkon> i_need_help_my_f, please read the how-to i gave you
[05:29] <i_need_help_my_f> i have tryed that method numerous times and it will not work as planed
[05:30] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: How it works, then?
[05:30] <qin> Just in time for a coffee...
[05:30] <heikohobr> I'm curious about tiling WMs, which one is a good starting point?
[05:31] <qin> heikohobr: xmonad, or less radical e17
[05:31] <i_need_help_my_f> i boot my pc. drop to root shell.(wich dose not work)i type in a command i forgot. then i reset password using password zsw.
[05:31] <heikohobr> ok, thank you
[05:32] <i_need_help_my_f> qin theres your explnation
[05:32] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: But in effect you managed to boot in text mode?
[05:32] <llutz_> i_need_help_my_f: "does not work" is not an explanation
[05:33] <i_need_help_my_f> yes it is and btw i gave an explnation
[05:33] <qin> so what do happens when you choose root shell from menu?
[05:34] <qin> does it ask for password? or just reverts to menu? or reboots?
[05:34] <i_need_help_my_f> my monitor zooms in about 200% and it says somthing like do such and such so so somthing
[05:34] <qin> see, llutz_, progress
[05:35] <mapps> i have a script that backs up some files and stores to /backups but i cant seem to get it to upload the file to a remote ftp i can only get it to upload te file if the archive is created in the dir the script runs?
[05:36] <weblordpepe> in your script you may want to ensure that its talking to files in the correct directory
[05:36] <weblordpepe> ya can do that in a few ways
[05:36] <qin> mapps: I suspect using rsync is way more sane, secure, and comfy than ftp
[05:36] <weblordpepe> you can specify the file's absolute path (ie /home/dude/documents/stuff/morethings/cat.jpg)
[05:36] <weblordpepe> or
[05:36] <mapps> i did cd testing once logged into the ftp which is ~/testing right - then i did put /backups/file FILE and it didnt work
[05:37] <weblordpepe> remember to put your filename inside quotes "
[05:37] <mapps> im already cd'd to testing dir once connected do i still need to put /testing/file ?
[05:37] <operaghostGK> is that something like this "grub <>"?
[05:37] <i_need_help_my_f> hello?
[05:37] <weblordpepe> if you have a file name like this: my awesome kitty cat.jpg
[05:38] <operaghostGK> it not root shell .it is grub recovery mod
[05:38] <N0byte> Help
[05:38] <i_need_help_my_f> anyone there?
[05:38] <mapps> ya needs quptes
[05:38]  * weblordpepe crawls out of a cupboard
[05:38] <weblordpepe> hes, i am here.
[05:38] <qin> i_need_help_my_f: operaghostGK talks to you
[05:38] <i_need_help_my_f> when
[05:38] <qin> just above.
[05:39] <i_need_help_my_f> oh well he wrong
[05:40] <weblordpepe> it helps to be polite & answer questions asked of you when you need help
[05:40] <q0> hello, i have problem with virtualbox saying VT-x hardware is not operational ??   I check with grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo   and it is there ! What could be the problem ?
[05:40] <pewdiepie_jk> anyone?hello
[05:40] <weblordpepe> whats VT-x hardware? thats a pretty fancy grep statement. colours & stuff
[05:41] <weblordpepe> pewdiepie_jk: whats the problem youre having?
[05:41] <pewdiepie_jk> i need to reset password but i try to drop to root shell in recovery mode and it no work
[05:42] <weblordpepe> oh i see i see.
[05:42] <N0byte> Online by phone
[05:42] <weblordpepe> cos when you put in recovery mode it asks for your password
[05:42] <weblordpepe> or ctrl-d to continue, sorta thing aye.
[05:42] <nname> I just bought a chromebook with only 16gb of storage. How would I go about setting it up to save all my downloads to a ubuntu server over the internet. VPN?
[05:42] <tinkerbot> mapps: hard to help without knowing your permission structure; any errors worth noting?
[05:42] <weblordpepe> let me think for a minute. i'm sure theres a cheap way of doing it.
[05:43] <mapps> no issues with perms at all...its just me being stupid i think basically say i run script a from /home/mark/bash it creates an archive and dumps it in /backups i want t then upload /backups/FILE to a remote ftp but i get errors
[05:43] <weblordpepe> are you able to log in at all? under any user?
[05:43] <weblordpepe> i'm thinking perhaps using a live-cd, and using chroot, and then changing your password.
[05:43] <weblordpepe> i think i can guide you through it.
[05:44] <weblordpepe> using chroot, you can tell any command to treat a directory of your choice as if it was /
[05:44] <Ben64> pewdiepie_jk: how does it "not work"
[05:44] <qin> nname: it kinda do not make sens to download to upload... but you have Ubutnu One, Google Drive and few other clouds for free.. or just use wget from server, or play with sshfs
[05:44] <weblordpepe> when you do that, and run anything (like change my password command) it will overwrite what it thinks is /etc/shadw and stuff.
[05:45] <weblordpepe> pewdiepie_jk: how are you on IRC right now? are you booting from a live CD or something?
[05:45] <weblordpepe> cos if you're on the computer which isn't working for you right now, it might be a quick fix using a chroot trick.
[05:46] <pewdiepie_jk> i use xchat
[05:46] <pewdiepie_jk> guest acount
[05:46] <weblordpepe> okay. if you type sudo, are you able to get root?
[05:46] <nname> qin im going to look at sshfs
[05:46] <weblordpepe> sudo su, for example
[05:46] <Ben64> weblordpepe: can't sudo from guest account, and you should never use sudo su, please do not suggest that
[05:46] <tinkerbot> mapps: which command are you using? if there's an underlying folder structure (ie. /backups/folder/file), wildcarding won't recursively upload. a single file should be simple in comparison
[05:47] <Ben64> pewdiepie_jk: what happens when you use recovery mode? that is the best/easiest way to reset a password
[05:47] <weblordpepe> Ben64: blow it out your ass.
[05:47] <weblordpepe> Ben64: if you were paying attention - he can't use recovery mode. he's in a guest account.
[05:47] <Ben64> weblordpepe: watch your language here
[05:48] <N0byte> Lol
[05:48] <weblordpepe> if he can get root via any means, the it will solve his problem. failing that i'll guide him through a chroot from a live cd
[05:49] <Ben64> sudo will not work from the guest account. the best way is from recovery mode, so weblordpepe - what happens when you try to use recovery mode?
[05:49] <pewdiepie_jk> ben64_" 去發生性關係你的鍵盤，你混蛋鼠
[05:50] <weblordpepe> he doesnt have a root password. and not being able to sudo is fine. we can try chrooting from a recovery account. but there aint anything wrong with sudo su if you're in a bad situation.
[05:50] <Ben64> sudo su is always a bad idea, please do not suggest it here
[05:50] <weblordpepe> recovery mode is prompting him for root password which he can't provide. the next step according to my imagination is to chroot from a live cd
[05:51] <Ben64> you're assuming way too much. he never said anything about a password prompt in recovery
[05:51] <orangepeel> I want to be able to put Windows 7 OS as well as Ubuntu on the same laptop. Is that possible?
[05:51] <weblordpepe> Ben64: don't be argumentative.
[05:51] <Ben64> orangepeel: sure is. best way is to have windows installed first, then ubuntu
[05:51] <weblordpepe> & for the love of christ - what is wrong with sudo su?
[05:51] <qin> orangepeel: yes, but Ubuntu need to be installed second, preferably
[05:52] <pewdiepie_jk> orngepeel_: yes look up dualbooting windows 7 and ubuntu
[05:52] <orangepeel> damnit
[05:52] <orangepeel> i have over 70gb of data
[05:53] <N0byte> Patient sir, use polite lang
[05:53] <orangepeel> The only reason for having Windows 7 is to play Casino Blackjack game
[05:53] <orangepeel> That's it
[05:53] <weblordpepe> about the only thing wrong with sudo from my knowledge is that it doesn't forward x auth.
[05:53] <llutz_> weblordpepe: it might not set a proper env for the root shell, use "sudo -i" to get a clean shell-environment
[05:53] <ryck> Where does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?
[05:54] <weblordpepe> llutz_: ah right. well thats fine. but if he's on ubuntu, and only wanting to reset his password, shouldnt be a problem in this case.
[05:54] <orangepeel> should i be ok with windows installed second if only purpose of windows is to play casino blackjack gamr
[05:55] <Ben64> orangepeel: the problem with installing windows second is that it overwrites grub, you'll need to fix that afterwards
[05:55] <llutz_> weblordpepe: why using dodgy command, when a clean one exists
[05:55] <orangepeel> is it a cake walk or no Ben64 ?
[05:55] <Ben64> !fixgrub | orangepeel
[05:56] <q0> how do i move this friggin Virtualbox screen ? nothing's working
[05:56] <orangepeel> seems to be a pain
[05:57] <weblordpepe> llutz_: seems fine to me. sudo -i i mean. i'll probably use it from now on
[05:57] <weblordpepe> llutz_: but whinging about sudo so being a bad idea when someone's needing help - bad.
[05:57] <Ben64> you missed a key point, where sudo will NOT work from a guest account anyway
[05:57] <q0> unbelievable, they come up with the whole technology but they can't prevent the window control overrides
[05:57] <ryck> Where does the content for the music, movie and photo lenses come from?
[05:57] <weblordpepe> yeah thats fine.  i know that.
[05:58] <weblordpepe> not disputing.
[05:58] <weblordpepe> just dont treat sudo su like its the plague.
[05:58] <q0> traumatised corporate programmers
[05:58] <llutz_> weblordpepe: but it is ;)
[05:58] <Ben64> could you stop with that already? its not the correct way to do anything
[05:58] <weblordpepe> O_o
[05:58] <q0> what about sudo -s
[05:59] <llutz_> q0: read sudo man-page about the difference to -i
[06:01] <weblordpepe> funny, reading .profile, .bashrc or .login & the environment specific stuff like that isn't always advantagous
[06:01] <weblordpepe> did i spell that? probably not. sudo man spelling
[06:02] <llutz_> weblordpepe: thats why there are  -s and -i, both may have advantages in some situations
[06:02] <weblordpepe> i wouldn't use -i after reading through this
[06:03] <q0> so my suggestion is better apparently,
[06:03] <q0> sudo -s for the win
[06:03] <llutz_> weblordpepe: but generally, if you want a "real" root-shell, you want roots environment, so -i is ok
[06:03] <weblordpepe> yeah that is true.
[06:03] <geirha> sudo -Hs
[06:03] <q0> thanks weblordpepe
[06:04] <weblordpepe> however - root shouldn't have an environment of any worth if ya ask me :P
[06:04]  * weblordpepe checks
[06:06] <weblordpepe> wow so many join/parts. anyone know how to hide that in irssi?
[06:06] <mobicynal> Wow works
[06:06] <mobicynal> Mobile irc on
[06:06] <llutz_> !quietirssi | weblordpepe
[06:06] <weblordpepe> more parts in this channel than in a model aircraft carrier kit
[06:06] <weblordpepe> oh swag thanks
[06:07] <mobicynal> Brillient
[06:07] <weblordpepe> neat thats really cool thanks ubottu
[06:07]  * weblordpepe pats ubottu on the head & feeds him a wallnut
[06:07] <weblordpepe> :3
[06:07] <kostkon> !cookie | ubottu
[06:07] <Guest15270> | isn't here
[06:08] <kostkon> ...
[06:08] <Ben64> !cookie kostkon
[06:08] <Guest15270> You don't have any cookies to give!
[06:10] <qin> So where is the dude with no password? It was really interesting.
[06:11] <Ben64> i think it was a troll, based upon his response to me
[06:11] <qin> at least we have sudo su explained...
[06:12] <funkyasss> weee
[06:12] <funkyasss> :)
[06:18] <q0> is it a bad idea to log in to my microsoft student account when it is pirate version ? Is FBI gonna raid my house ?
[06:18] <qin> weblordpepe: it took me just half an hour to find, post #6 just makes it simple: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874346
[06:19] <qin> q0: it is more for ##windows question, and likely in colision with quidlines
[06:19] <q0> i'll ask there then
[06:20] <qin> do it, me thinks they are also pubcly logged channel...
[06:21] <q0> i'll post my 8 inch dick there too then
[06:23] <mobicynal> Database is not easy getting into deep haha
[06:27] <__raven> 13.10: error infinite loop on login screen - how to repair?
[06:28] <Ben64> __raven: can you get in with guest account
[06:29] <__raven> Ben64: its not enabled. i am only able to login via tty
[06:30] <llutz_> __raven: "df -h /home /tmp"  any fs full? "ls -la ~/.Xauthority"  owned by you, perms 0600?
[06:31] <__raven> llutz_: Xauthority was owned by root that was the problem. tnx :)
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> +
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> it was no troll i found a sloution
[06:38] <pewdiepie_jk> ben64 no troll
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> so the dash searches the scopes, the hud searches the menu...
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> I am trying to think of a good name for a embedded terminal
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> something similar to the hud
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> the hut?
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> suggestions?
[06:47] <xubuntu> hi
[06:47] <qin> ted? Terminal Embedded in Desktop?
[06:48] <weblordpepe> qin: interesting. nice work
[06:49] <weblordpepe> also, this is my main technical issue at the moment with my debian install: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/p960x960/135294_684504048258169_1177957858_o.jpg
[06:49] <weblordpepe> im having IO problems
[06:50] <Guest73934> just uninstall cat
[06:58] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, if I want to set a "strict" level on a user in ubuntu how would I go about doing that?
[06:59] <cfhowlett> Demon_Jester, strict beyond "desktop user"???
[07:00] <dakotawulfy> would any one be able to help me on a a gtk3 theme  just to find out one thing
[07:04] <Demon_Jester> cfhowlett, I am sorry I mean ssh user into ubuntu server.
[07:04] <Demon_Jester> ssh user on ubuntu server*
[07:05] <weblordpepe> sorry, cat is installed to rom
[07:06] <JordanJ2> Hello, Can I install the KDE desktop with Ubuntu or would that be kibuntu?
[07:06] <JordanJ2> kubuntu*
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !server|Demon_Jester, ask the server channel
[07:07] <llutz_> JordanJ2: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop               then pick kde session at next login
[07:07] <JordanJ2> Alrigh. Thank you
[07:08] <cfhowlett> Jordan_U, to get just the desktop    sudo apt-get install KDE      to get the packages sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <cfhowlett> JordanJ2, FYI kubuntu default packages are different from Ubuntu
[07:09] <JordanJ2> Okay
[07:10] <fa7ad> guys i'm fairly new with linux can someone build a few packages for me. i a noob at compiling them myself
[07:11] <fa7ad> besides they have long list of dependencies
[07:11] <llutz_> fa7ad: in most cases other people did that already, just search for ppa on launchpad with the stuff you want
[07:11] <fa7ad> there's a ppa but it provides the stable releases. i need the unstable ones
[07:12] <fa7ad> here: libimobiledevice.org
[07:12] <fa7ad> i need 1.1.6 but the ppa has 1.0.5
[07:16] <fa7ad> llutz_: ok i found a ppa that has the latest one but the dependencies are missing (usbmuxd and libplist). any help?
[07:17] <llutz_> fa7ad: find a ppa providing these... that's why ppas aren't supported here, it's a mess
[07:18] <fa7ad> -_-
[07:24] <helmut_> hi
[07:26] <BonkersCrazy_> Hey guys. Quick question if anyone is awake. I've just downloaded some songs for Frets on Fire, I'm trying to move those songs into the correct folder. Apparently, I don't have permission to do that. Any ideas on how I can get those moved?
[07:26] <rww> !cookie
[07:28] <jasabella> BonkersCrazy_... sudo mv ? heh
[07:29] <fa7ad> sorry guys i should have known. u guys are probably sleeping. its afternoon in my timezone though
[07:30] <cfhowlett> fa7ad, newsflash:  this irc is global.  so "anyone awake?" warrants the response "of course..."
[07:38] <KyouReeUs4nfo> fa7ad: dpkg-deb -b can build a deb package for you
[07:40] <linuxuz3r> omg ubuntu 14.04
[07:46] <mortal_> hello ubuntu
[07:47] <mortal_> anyone alive?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> mortal_, ask you ubuntu question
[07:52] <Guest97695> What could cause var/log/atop.log to rapidly fill up?
[07:54] <llutz_> Guest97695: check the content. most likely a misconfigured atop process?
[07:55] <Guest97695> llutz_: Ok. But the file seems hashed though.
[07:55] <Guest97695> llutz_: e.g. a 33 MB file of contents like "0000 0000 0000 332e 322e 302d 3539 2d67 "
[07:56] <alvtec> Can i install metasploit on ubuntu 13.10?
[07:58] <llutz_> Guest97695: "man atop" atop -r foo    to read the content. check you processlist for running atop-processes
[07:58] <llutz_> your*
[07:58] <alvtec> It says supported operating systems ubuntu 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, nothing about 13.10... will it work???
[07:58] <cfhowlett> alvtec, ask the package maintainers?
[08:01] <Guest97695> llutz_: These are my processes. http://pastebin.com/QfKnsY7W
[08:01] <Guest97695> llutz_: How should i interpret the atop-r output ?
[08:01] <thom_> alvtec, it should work just fine. Seems they only mentioned LTS releases.
[08:02] <llutz_> Guest97695: ctrl-c, q? idk, i haven't used atop much
[08:03] <lesnik_> Hi
[08:03] <seronis> how do i get UNetBootin to recognize a usb mounted external hard drive?
[08:03] <llutz_> Guest97695: but tbh, if you run atop, why don't you read about how to use it?
[08:03] <seronis> trying to turn my 500gb into a live installer
[08:04] <lesnik_> I've update the system to ubuntu 14.04 32bit. I've changed scaling-facor by the ui tool, and now have everything realy huge. Can't set it back to the normal size.
[08:05] <seronis> it wasnt visible in UNetBootin when it was formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat32
[08:05] <lesnik_> tried set it by gsetting
[08:05] <Guest97695> llutz_: Actually, it is not something i chose, maybe i can uninstall it?. It was preinstalled on my VM. Would like to know whats filling up the log files though.
[08:05] <lesnik_> but it has 4 value all the time
[08:06] <marrygrim> hi
[08:06] <yokobr> hey guys.... i'm getting a really low performance with my 1gb 7400m discrete gpu
[08:06] <cisconinja> Ok,so in my windows i have installed cygwin/X how do i make my ubuntu 13.10 desktop display in my windows
[08:08] <RaMcHiPTech> I have a noob question.  I am using ubuntu server and start running a miner through SSH.  How do I get the screen back if I lose connection to SSH?
[08:09] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: use screen or tmux on the server, you easily can reattach the session after a disconnect
[08:09] <guest-hscpth> What is on this system that connections keep redirecting to https?
[08:09] <llutz_> !screen | RaMcHiPTech
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> I attempted screen but could not figure out the syntax for some reason.
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> I attempted to attach to the PID through top
[08:10] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: screen -r
[08:10] <RaMcHiPTech> Thanks, I will try that again :)
[08:11] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAYfwUPj7s
[08:11] <marrygrim> yokobr:  is your right drivers installed?
[08:12] <marrygrim> yokobr:  is your video card and software supported?
[08:12] <marrygrim> htop!
[08:12] <guest-hscpth> htop?
[08:12] <marrygrim> !htop
[08:13] <marrygrim> !htop | marrygrim
[08:13] <guest-hscpth> Why does htop make the http reset to https?
[08:13] <RaMcHiPTech> Thanks llutz_! Worked great
[08:13] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  https is more surcure
[08:14] <RaMcHiPTech> I dont know how I missed that
[08:14] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, what is making it use https?
[08:14] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i got that, i want to know to get display the whole desktop
[08:15] <kafka> question, I am working at a place that uses a shared file system and therefor there's 1 server which they install all the apps on and the rest of the workstations are running it from the server. each user has a homedir with a small quota, Also the server has eclipse installed on it so every time a user is running eclipse from his workstation, eclipse is using quota space to store osgi/bundles and that maxes out the quota, now my question, is there any way to c
[08:15] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  im guessing its a default option.
[08:16] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  whats it doing now?
[08:16] <guest-hscpth> bazhang was able to switch it
[08:16] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, so where is the option to change it
[08:17] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i am trying startx
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !server|kafka, ask the server channel??
[08:17] <cisconinja> marrygrim: i get this X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[08:18] <cisconinja> when i do xterm it works
[08:18] <marrygrim> guest-hscpth:  why would you need to change it? your knowing puting your self at more risk. do at your own cost.  atm no to you question
[08:18] <cisconinja> but i am really after startx , so that i get the full desktop gui
[08:19] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  what desktop are you defaulting to?
[08:19] <cisconinja> marrygrim: what do you mean please?
[08:19] <seronis> how can i get UNB to recognize a usb mounted external hdd when trying to create a persistant liveusb install ?
[08:19] <seronis> my drive does not show up in UNB whether its mounted or unounted.  and whether its formatted as ntfs, ext2 nor fat32
[08:19] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  what desktop are you using?
[08:20] <cisconinja> marrygrim: unity
[08:20] <guest-hscpth> marrygrim, knowing is not putting self at risk, it is allowing choice
[08:21] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  ok so say ssh is a door and untiy is overweight enough to have a little problem using this door
[08:22] <guest-hscpth> get bazhang on the line
[08:22] <cisconinja> marrygrim: hmmm yes
[08:22] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  is the connection over the internet or local?
[08:22] <cisconinja> marrygrim: local
[08:22] <guest-hscpth> bazhang was able to switch it off
[08:23] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  that imagitive door got a bit bigger  but the fat guy still has problems
[08:24] <marrygrim> seronis:  remount is a few times  if that dont work restart
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Hi All, I have hardened a server. And I am accessing that server via ssh. The keys were created on client1. Now I am replacing client1 with a new client, and want to move the keys over to access the server
[08:25] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Having only done this via a tutorial once
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Im having trouble give client 2 access
[08:25] <cisconinja> marrygrim: http://pastebin.com/2dDwES6v
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> so far, I have copied id_rsa from client 1 to client 2 within ~/.ssh
[08:25] <d1rkp1tt> Any help would be appreciated
[08:26] <guest-hscpth> I am knowing and it is no more danger than ignorance.
[08:26] <topi> d1rkp1tt: you need to copy the id_rsa.pub also i think
[08:26] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:27] <d1rkp1tt> topi, hmm not sure where that bad boy is
[08:27] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: have you chowned the id-file to the user on client2?
[08:27] <guest-hscpth> I am going to make a cert authority on this machine.
[08:27] <d1rkp1tt> yeah
[08:27] <guest-hscpth> I do not want the others making https.
[08:27] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  heres a guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3GauE29eHA
[08:28] <guest-hscpth> co-operate
[08:28] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: and you don't need the .pub
[08:28] <d1rkp1tt> llutz, Yeah I think that is the pub
[08:28] <d1rkp1tt>  maybe its ssh config
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> to tell it where to look for the key
[08:29] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  there is a few differnet way to solve your problm
[08:29] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: the foo.pub is the one being transfered to the remote site, not needed locally
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> but I figure that location is default
[08:29] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: use ssh -vv user@host             and check the output for errors
[08:29] <d1rkp1tt> ok, yeah makes sense
[08:29] <cisconinja> marrygrim: checking it
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> Just permission denied (publik key)
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> oh,
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> but wait theres more...
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> Its ignored because my permissions are too open
[08:30] <topi> d1rkp1tt: is the $HOME on client2 and see the permissions. Compare it to what $HOME is on client1.
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> 0777
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> ooops
[08:30] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: chmod 0600 .ssh/*
[08:30] <d1rkp1tt> good plan
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> thanks
[08:31] <llutz_> d1rkp1tt: chmod 0700 .ssh/
[08:31] <marrygrim> d1rkp1tt:  when you move "clients" the  new one will need a new key. but i seen a way to just "copy things over" and for the most of it works
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> Im in
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> !
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> shot
[08:31] <d1rkp1tt> llutz, Thanks for that, you rock
[08:32] <d1rkp1tt> new dev environment set up on 13.10 now
[08:32] <d1rkp1tt> nice
[08:32] <guest-hscpth> Without choice there can be no virtue.
[08:33] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  hered another http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzbJrfZ4ak
[08:34] <guest-hscpth> The machine needs to be cleansed.
[08:35] <llutz_> marrygrim: you don't need new keys on different clients, all can use the same secret-key. but for security reasons i'd guess it's better to use different keys
[08:36] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  just incase you didnt know there is a portable version  ,also i think you can use portableapps.com  too as the launcher.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/cygwinportable/
[08:38] <marrygrim> llutz_:  that you are right, but it gmama pc is action funny and her computer is a very low risk then you can if you will,share that key.
[08:40] <marrygrim> llutz_:  so if grandma pc is action funny and yoour the "computer help guy" in the family ,then  you can ust set to as the same or few master keys in rotation.  family calls you like once a month to fix their stuff. are you going to remember their passwords
[08:41] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  are you there?
[08:42] <fredrik_> I have a program that I need to start some 10-20 seconds after Ubuntu have finished started and with root-privileges like this: "sudo /usr/sbin/newcs.i686". I don't want to have to login myself to run this... How do I solve this?
[08:43] <llutz_> fredrik_: add it to /etc/rc.local
[08:43] <cisconinja> marrygrim: yes i am here , just trying to keep up with all the info you are providing
[08:43] <marrygrim> fredrik_:  google start up scripts
[08:44] <fredrik_> llutz_, Will it start it with sudo if I put it in rc.local?
[08:44] <marrygrim> fredrik_:  what are you trying to aotu run in the  first place?
[08:44] <llutz_> fredrik_: it is run as root, so no sudo needed. just make sure you add it above the "exit 0" line
[08:44] <fredrik_> ok.. llutz_ I'll try that.. thanks!
[08:45] <marrygrim> llutz_:  fredrik_  does he need to login as  root in the script?
[08:46] <llutz_> marrygrim: scroll up "run with sudo .. no user login ..:"
[08:48] <marrygrim> llutz_:  right , what if he needs to manually input a password in ?
[08:48] <llutz_> marrygrim: why would he?
[08:49] <fredrik_> llutz, It didn't work... where can I find logfiles over what went wrong when running rc.local?
[08:49] <llutz_> marrygrim:idk what newcs.i686 is, but if he just want to start that with root-rights, rc.local is one way t do
[08:49] <marrygrim> llutz_:  well if sudo is invoked then locigally a passkey should follow
[08:50] <marrygrim> llutz_:  ok
[08:50] <llutz_> marrygrim: rc.local doesnt need sudo, it runs already as root
[08:50] <cisconinja> marrygrim: so i am following his instruction and trying to run kwin & but i get this error "$ X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.kwin: FATAL ERROR while trying to open display localhost:10.0"
[08:50] <marrygrim> oh ok
[08:51] <llutz_> fredrik_: check /var/log/messages or syslog for any info
[08:51] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  the last part is because ur monitor needs to be pointed out
[08:52] <cisconinja> marrygrim: how?
[08:52] <ivano> hello
[08:52] <ivano> ibibio
[08:52] <marrygrim> cisconinja:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88883 if your doing this over ssh
[08:53] <ivano> search ibibio
[08:53] <RaMcHiPTech> llutz_:  Can I use screen in a bash script upon startup?
[08:54] <ivano> ffff
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio|ivano,
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio|ivano,
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !info ibibio
[08:55] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  a setting or settings are not correct for what your doing
[08:55] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: yes, something like "/bin/su user -c "/usr/bin/screen -dmS mysession bash -c "/script""
[08:56] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, thank you
[08:56] <llutz_> RaMcHiPTech: check screen man-page for options, not sure atm
[08:56] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux.slackware/KwN7bWX8Qvo heres a few more clues
[08:57] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  did you get it working?
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, ivano see above
[08:57] <cheru> just joined...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, ivano was querying ibibio ...
[08:57] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  huh?
[08:57] <RaMcHiPTech> I think I found it - detached mode. Thanks again for everything, this helped greatly and gave me more options!
[08:57] <llutz_> !find ibibio
[08:57] <cfhowlett> marrygrim, I wasn't working on that package - ivano was
[08:58] <marrygrim> cfhowlett:  WHAT?   SAY NO THANK YOU !?
[08:59] <bekks> marrygrim: Stop shouting.
[08:59] <llutz_> drop caps please marrygrim
[09:00] <marrygrim> bekks:  llutz_  sell you help someone , then they do have manners to even say thanks
[09:00] <marrygrim> dont*
[09:00] <bekks> marrygrim: Which is no justification for shouting around.
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|marrygrim,
[09:01] <fredrik_> llutz_, Can't find anything in syslog. It does'nt indicate that the rc.local is runned at all. My rc.local look like this now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7178455/
[09:01] <marrygrim> bekks:  ok ok.
[09:02] <llutz_> fredrik_: tvheadend was started correct?
[09:02] <cheru> marygrim...
[09:02] <fredrik_> llutz_, Im not shure about the tvheadend program though. I start this program without sudo. Maby this has to be started as a user. How do I do that? without that user beeing logged in?
[09:03] <fredrik_> llutz_, no none of the programs where started. I can't find their processes att all. And I can't run their webfronts eather
[09:03] <marrygrim> so im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool
[09:03] <llutz_> fredrik_: check documentation for that. you also should use full pathes in rc.local, /usr/..../tvheadend &
[09:04] <llutz_> fredrik_: does the newcs.i686 work correctly if you start it manually?
[09:05] <cheru> am tryn to unistall microsoft office from wine but it is giving some error reports ...how do i deal with this...?//?
[09:05] <fredrik_> llutz_, Well, the documentation for tvheadend does not state that it should be runned as root. And it workes just fine if I do a "tvheadend &" in the terminal after logging in. So I'm sure it workes without privileges
[09:06] <RaMcHiPTech> PERFECT!  Thanks much llutz_!  That really hit the spot, I have the miner up and running at startup now with screen!  I am loving ubuntu server on this Proliant 580!
[09:06] <fredrik_> llutz_, both programs work fine if I start them from a terminal. Im just doing it like this "tvheadend &" and then "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686"
[09:06] <llutz_> fredrik_: start it with "/bin/su youruser -c /path/to/tvheadend &" then, check with "pgrep tvhead" if it runs
[09:07] <fredrik_> llutz_, should I put that in rc.local or just test it in terminal?
[09:07] <llutz_> fredrik_: in rc.local
[09:07] <cheru> hey..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...
[09:07] <llutz_> fredrik_: the test in terminal ofc
[09:09] <fredrik_> llutz_, Can you find out where tvheadend is located? it's in my path I'm not shure where it is :-)
[09:09] <llutz_> fredrik_: "which tvheadend"
[09:09] <cheru> lllutz_..how do u unistall a programme in wine using terminal?...
[09:09] <fredrik_> llutz_, nice.. One moment.. I'll try this
[09:10] <llutz_> cheru: ask the channel, or in (#)#winehq
[09:11] <cheru> if i unistall the whole app>wine the apps inside will also be removed amin the wine apps...
[09:12] <fredrik_> llutz_, rebooting brb
[09:12] <marrygrim> so im trying to install  a bittorrent on a vps so i can the world of linux torrents how do i go about doing this? also if i can have a remote webgui that would be cool
[09:13] <llutz_> marrygrim: i've used rtorrent before, but i'm not sure about a webgui for that
[09:14] <llutz_> marrygrim: apt-cache search torrent|less          pick what you like and check if it is what you want
[09:15] <fredrik_> llutz, heureka! Tvheadend worked! Now, just newcs left
[09:15] <marrygrim> llutz_:  rtoorent i have not much of an idea.
[09:15] <llutz_> fredrik_: still no luck?
[09:15] <llutz_> fredrik_: does it need tvheadend running for start?
[09:15] <fredrik_> I commented out newcs part in rc.local .. will do another reboot now...
[09:16] <fredrik_> llutz_, nope.. it does not
[09:16] <llutz_> fredrik_: ok, so "/usr/sbin/newcs.i686 &"
[09:16] <marrygrim> llutz_:  can you help me with this?
[09:17] <fredrik_> llutz_, yepp.. rebooting again.. brb
[09:17] <kodos992> hello
[09:17] <llutz_> marrygrim: there are lots of good tutorials about rtorrent online, like libtorrent.rakshasa.no
[09:18] <marrygrim> llutz_:  i have been staring at that and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it
[09:19] <marrygrim> llutz_:  i have been staring at that for hours and i have no idea how to even make sense of most of it
[09:19] <llutz_> marrygrim: well, pick a different client then
[09:19] <fredrik_> llutz, IT WORKES! :-)
[09:19] <fredrik_> llutz_, thanks a million! I owe you a beer!
[09:20] <llutz_> fredrik_: glad to hear, cheers :)
[09:20] <fredrik_> probably tvheadend messed up newcs.. when I got tvheadend working the other just poped in!
[09:20] <bekks> marrygrim: 10s search: http://vassie.me/rtorrent-and-rutorrent-on-ubuntu-server-with-nginx/
[09:20] <marrygrim> llutz_:  google keeps giving me rtorrent results as the best one for a vps
[09:21] <marrygrim> bekks:  do i have to rebuild the code if i already have it with a apt-get rtoorent comnd?
[09:22] <bekks> marrygrim: what do you mean with "rebuild the code"?
[09:24] <marrygrim> bekks:  do i need to build rtorrent for souce as instucted in the guide if i already have it?
[09:25] <bekks> marrygrim: Did you even read the guide I linked?
[09:25] <marrygrim> bekks:  part of it along, fast reader
[09:26] <bekks> marrygrim: Obviously didnt understand anything then - the guide does not say a word about "manually compiling" or anything.
[09:36] <marrygrim> bekks:  how do i get this runing without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts
[09:39] <marrygrim>   how do i get rtorrent  running without the webserver? also how do i have it always running even after restarts?
[09:40] <kodos992> hello
[09:41] <nusenuse> Hello, quick question. Anyone know a good model/program to make network mental maps? Thank you
[09:43] <cfhowlett> nusenuse, look in software center for mind maps
[10:02] <timmytimtimo> i need help onhow to setup a private cloud with ubuntu server?
[10:04] <nw0519230> hello, i'd like to bring this one:
[10:04] <nw0519230> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/asunder/+bug/1298567
[10:05] <nw0519230> to the attention of the appropriate people
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !server|timmytimtimo, ask in the server channel
[10:05] <nw0519230> is this the correct channel to do so?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> nw0519230, you've filed a bug report?  that IS bringing it to the attention of the proper people!
[10:06] <no_gravity> Good Morning! When i put a script in /etc/crontab do i have to make sure it doesnt output anything on stderr or is stderr simply discarded?
[10:07] <nw0519230> cfhowlett: well, yeah, but i am not sure filing a bug for asunder will bring it to the attention to the people who sync packages from debian?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> nw0519230, bug team will direct it to the correct parties.  that's what the bug reporting system does.
[10:09] <TJ-> nw0519230: Have you emailed the maintainer?
[10:14] <nw0519230> TJ-: i have emailed the Debian maintainer which is listed over there http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/asunder, and asked him to update Asunder from 2.2 to 2.5. and he did. 2.5 is now available in Debian sid since a few days. but Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" still only has 2.2, so 2.5 was not synced from Debian sid yet. would i need to email the Ubuntu maintainers which are listed on the page then ("MOTU developers" according to t
[10:14] <TJ-> nw0519230: As it's a sync from Debian you'll probably need to mail the MOTU dev mailing-list
[10:16] <johtso> I've added a PPA, but the expected package isn't shown when I run "apt-cache madison python-git", is there something special I need to do to ignore the standard source and look at the custom PPA?
[10:17] <pikimeister> check if the ppa is above the default one in the sources.list
[10:18] <pikimeister> and don't forget to apt-get update
[10:19] <johtso> pikimeister, I don't see it in /etc/apt/sources.list .. but it's definitely added because I see it in the output of apt-get update
[10:20] <TJ-> johtso: most additional repos are added in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[10:21] <TJ-> johtso: Also, have you done "apt-cache policy $PACKAGE" ... that will show all sources for the package. If the PPA version isn't there, then there's possibly a foreign architecture issue
[10:22] <snp_> Hi all, I want to do a  boot-repair, but I can't . It says the mode is on EFI system but not any EFI system detected. What does this mean?
[10:22] <johtso> TJ-, the PPA isn't there
[10:22] <TJ-> johtso: So you haven't added it then :)
[10:22] <johtso> (in apt-cache policy output)
[10:23] <pikimeister> how did u add the ppa? apt-add-repository ... ?
[10:24] <johtso> pikimeister, on a low level, I assume so, on a higher level, I'm using salt
[10:24] <TJ-> johtso: "grep -rn ppa /etc/apt/" to check if there is any sign of any PPA entries at all
[10:25] <johtso> TJ-, it's in sources.list.d
[10:25] <johtso> and I see it in the output of apt-get update
[10:25] <pikimeister> and is there a package available for your release?
[10:25] <johtso> and I have at least one package installed from that PPA
[10:26] <TJ-> johtso: OK, so the package isn't available from the PPA
[10:26] <johtso> but this one also happens to be available on the official repositories
[10:26] <TJ-> johtso: Check that the PPA has a build for the architecture, and release, of the installed system
[10:26] <pikimeister> it should overwrite
[10:26] <pikimeister> if its newer
[10:26] <pikimeister> the default repos
[10:26] <johtso> TJ-, strange, but I see the package here: https://launchpad.net/~saltstack/+archive/salt
[10:26] <johtso> python-git
[10:27] <TJ-> johtso: And what release is the system you're working with? That package is for Lucid.
[10:28] <johtso> oh damn, that'll be it then..
[10:28] <pikimeister> u can force it
[10:28] <pikimeister> if u really need
[10:28] <pikimeister> but that is your problem.
[10:28] <pikimeister> and you need to make sure you have all dependencies
[10:28] <johtso> cheers for the help, too many assumptions :)
[10:29] <TJ-> johtso: It's an 'all' build so no binaries, just scripts, but I'd think the Python version it requires might conflict with the version on your system(s), so you'd need to verify that
[10:29] <Haix64> Hi. How do I run the ssh server on Kubuntu 13.10? isn't it supposed to be "service ssh start"?
[10:29] <johtso> ah okay, so there's a chance I could just force install it without any issues
[10:30] <jasabella> how do i get cups to bind to a ipv6 LAN address only?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> johtso, "force" pretty much implies issues to one degree or another ...
[10:31] <TJ-> johtso: It looks like abandon-ware
[10:32] <johtso> TJ-, yeah, it's a dependency of the salt project, and they're looking to switch to something else ASAP
[10:32] <TJ-> johtso: I know; that's one of the things I got annoyed by
[10:33] <adrenalink> Hello! I can't boot from Live Ubuntu 12.04. My notebook is an Acer e1-522. Any suggestion?
[10:33] <g105b> My laptop is a new intel chip, 64 bit. Should I install the intel i386 or AMD64 Ubuntu image?
[10:33] <pikimeister> g105b, ram?
[10:34] <g105b> pikimeister: 8GB
[10:34] <pikimeister> amd64
[10:34] <jasabella> 64bit then :)
[10:34] <g105b> how do you know?
[10:34] <jasabella> 32bit machines dont like >4gb ram
[10:34] <TJ-> adrenalink: What does "can't boot" actually mean? Please describe the symptoms precisely
[10:34] <pikimeister> i386 is for old machines with few ram, it used 3,2GB of RAM for operating sistem only.
[10:35] <g105b> aha ok. So is the decision purely on how much ram there is?
[10:35] <pikimeister> so you won't be using your ram properly
[10:35] <pikimeister> if u go with that.
[10:35] <pikimeister> as long as your cpu is 64bit
[10:35] <pikimeister> 64 is the choice nowadays
[10:35] <g105b> ah cool thanks.
[10:36] <pikimeister> less than 3GB Ram -> i386
[10:36] <TJ-> g105b: Not entirely, but using 64bit means the physical address space doesn't present limitations that have to be worked around using PAE. 64-bit CPUs also have many more, larger, registers which makes many applications execute slightly faster
[10:36] <adrenalink> TJ-  Ubuntu seems to start. It pass the screen with the Ubuntu charger, but end with a black window or a white window
[10:37] <g105b> Thanks for the concise information TJ- pikimeister jasabella
[10:37] <TJ-> adrenalink: I think we had an issue with the same model a few days ago; the workaround was the usual: add "nomodeset" to the kernel command-line options at the boot menu where you see "Try Ubuntu"
[10:38] <adrenalink> with Ubuntu 12.04 live I don't see Try ubuntu. It starts automatically
[10:38] <TJ-> adrenalink: So long since I used that live ISO thought I can't give you exact instructions on keys to press to edit the kernel command-line
[10:38] <adrenalink> I found on the web F6
[10:38] <TJ-> adrenalink: It does? Hmmm...  so long since I used 12.04 ISO!
[10:39] <adrenalink> but it opens a little window with no visible options
[10:39] <adrenalink> could it be a problem with UEFI?
[10:40] <TJ-> adrenalink: Comment 5 in this question shows the screen I'm referring to, and how to get to it:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/129116/12-04-wont-boot-from-live-cd-or-usb
[10:40] <TJ-> adrenalink: UEFI should be using CSM/legacy mode to start the ISO
[10:41] <TJ-> adrenalink: Also, the obvious question: have you done a "Check disk for defects" or compared the checksum of the ISO image with the published checksum - that will prove if there might be corruption of the image itself
[10:42] <tez36887> hello world
[10:43] <tez36887> hi
[10:43] <tez36887> hello
[10:43] <cfhowlett> tez36887, what is your ubuntu question?
[10:43] <tez36887> i dont have one
[10:43] <adrenalink> TJ- I installed Ubuntu on another PC with the same USB stick (same Ubuntu over it), so it should be ok.
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !topic > tez36887,
[10:44] <tez36887> i am new to this, and no nothing
[10:44] <anto> SALVE
[10:44] <adrenalink> TJ- I can access that screen, But when I type each possible option, I obtain only the raw option pane (  a grey structure, scrollable, but with NO options... it seems to be a bug)
[10:45] <tez36887> Long live LINUX!!
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !ot|tez36887,
[10:46] <tez36887> so am i in the sh!t?
[10:46] <cfhowlett> tez36887, profanity is not acceptable.  stop.
[10:46] <tez36887> sorry
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:46] <tez36887> no, i am just learning how to use this irc system
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  great, then type /join #ubuntu-ot, but behave there, too
[10:47] <tez36887> i would like to know how to speed up graphics on the system though
[10:48] <TJ-> adrenalink: Sounds like a problem if the display isn't being rendered at all
[10:48] <tez36887> theres no one in that chat
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> tez36887  i mistyped, it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <ocooel> How much difference will there be installing 13.10 64bit instead of 32bit when the laptop only has 4GB ram
[10:49] <bekks> ocooel: choose 64bit if your hardware is capable of 64bit.
[10:49] <cfhowlett> ocooel, your system will support 64 bit so there's no reason NOT to run it.
[10:50] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, main concern is installation of google earth
[10:50] <bekks> Why is that a concern at all?
[10:51] <adrenalink> TJ- How can I solve it?
[10:51] <ocooel> bekks, attempt to do it on an another system failed due to dependancy issue and 32bit stable version installs but didn't launch
[10:51] <cfhowlett> ocooel, google earth will run on 64 bit
[10:52] <TJ-> adrenalink: As I said, my first step would be to confirm the image it is booting has the correct checksum, to rule out possible corruption. If that is OK, I'd then run the "Test Memory" option, then I'd go back to adding the "nomodeset" option, since that is the usually the culprit for black-screen issues (incorrect modes are selected)
[10:53] <adrenalink> TJ- How to check the usb stick?
[10:53] <ocooel> bekks, cfhowlett, used both methods without success http://askubuntu.com/questions/366438/how-to-install-google-earth-64bit-in-ubuntu-13-10-ia32-libs-dependency-error and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[10:55] <bekks> ocooel: The latter cannot be used anymore, since the medibuntu ppa is offline.
[10:55] <cfhowlett> bekks, actually medibuntu is dead.
[10:55] <bekks> ocooel: And what exactly didnt work with the first?
[10:55] <bekks> cfhowlett: yeah.
[10:57] <ocooel> bekks, attempt was to download 32bit .deb and install package lsb-core then install .deb with gdebi. This method didn't work. The first method launched, then closed before loading layers.
[10:57] <TJ-> adrenalink: If you wrote the ISO to the USB, you can unmount it, then do "md5sum /dev/sdX" where X is the USB's device letter. Then compare that with the published MD5 checksums on the download pages
[10:58] <bekks> ocooel: And did you start it in a terminal to actually see see error?
[10:58] <ocooel> bekks, how can I do that for you to look at?
[10:59] <ocooel> bekks, just use the terminal to open the program?
[11:01] <TJ-> adrenalink: Or, you can use the live image's own "Check disc for defects" option
[11:02] <bekks> ocooel: open a terminal, and start the application from terminal.
[11:03] <ocooel> bekks, one minute
[11:05] <ocooel> bekks,
[11:05] <ocooel> bekks, brother is using internet and slowed me google earth download :-(
[11:06] <adrenalink> TJ- I I checked the .iso and it's ok. I am also checking the usb but it does not seems to work...
[11:07] <adrenalink> TJ- (I also found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152847/how-to-access-boot-options-12-04-live-usb  The problem I have is described in the comments of the first response)
[11:08] <adrenalink> TJ- Finish usb checksum. It is completely different from the Ubuntu 12.04 one. ( f04c6b4dc5dd5f5fd9aa84c446bab13a  )
[11:09] <bekks> adrenalink: how did you create the usb, just by using dd?
[11:09] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, then you did not get a good download.
[11:09] <adrenalink> TJ- No, using the program in Ubuntu (disk creator)
[11:09] <bekks> adrenalink: then you cant compare tghe checksums at all. :)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, are you checking the downloaded ISO or the USB ?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[11:10] <adrenalink> I checked both
[11:10] <adrenalink> the .is is ok
[11:10] <adrenalink> the usb not
[11:10] <bekks> adrenalink: the usb cannot be ok at all :)
[11:10] <adrenalink> I compared with the Ubuntu 12.04 official
[11:10] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, you doin it wrong
[11:10] <adrenalink> that is what TJ- said to me...
[11:11] <bekks> adrenalink: the disk creator does not copy the iso to the usb, but extracts it, modifies files, etc.
[11:11] <adrenalink> beeks: yes of course!
[11:11] <adrenalink> so?
[11:11] <bekks> adrenalink: so the checksum will differ. Obviously.
[11:11] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, go to the link and see "check the CD" section.  yes, you have a USB not a CD but similar process
[11:12] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[11:16] <trijntje> I'm trying to figure out whicih usb-ports on my pc are usb-2 using lsusb, but I've tried every usb port on my pc and none register  at
[11:16] <trijntje> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <trijntje> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[11:16] <Behi> Hi, why in some preseed.cfg files, the same line appears multiple times? For example, "d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true" is repeated two times here: https://github.com/flomotlik/packer-example/blob/master/http/preseed.cfg
[11:26] <bekks> Behi: thats a good question for the author of that file.
[11:26] <MaxFrames> hi
[11:26] <Behi> bekks I assume that is redundant, right?
[11:27] <Behi> I have a feeling most of these preseed files are copy pasted without much care an attention
[11:28] <MaxFrames> ubuntu 13.10 cuts some dozen pixels on my external hdmi tv, I have a dual screen setup where the main display is my lcd monitor (dvi) and the secondary display is my fullhd tv (hdmi), both are 1920x1080, but whatever I set the resolution to on my tv, it always cuts the top,bottom,right and left borders
[11:28] <MaxFrames> kubuntu 13.10 does the same thing so it's definitely *ubuntu's fault, no problems with windows
[11:30] <MaxFrames> I've read on the forums that I should set the tv's offset parameters, but #1 they are not configurable on my tv and #2 the problem is just with ubuntu, if the tv wasn't able to display a 1920x1080 picture over hdmi I would have the same problem on all OS's
[11:33] <TJ-> MaxFrames: On Windows, did you install drivers specific to the TV?
[11:37] <thom_> Maxframes, do you have the screens mirrored?
[11:37] <MaxFrames> TJ-: no, just the ati catalyst drivers
[11:38] <adrenalink> beeks cfhowlett : I used the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD. It says:
[11:38] <adrenalink> checksum for input image: c7f439e864d28d9e5ca2aa885c4ec4cb
[11:38] <adrenalink> checksum for output disk: d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[11:38] <adrenalink> verification failed!
[11:38] <TJ-> MaxFrames: The usual cause is that the TV provides an incorrect EDID so the OS has to guess at the modelines that the TV will accept
[11:38] <thom_> adrenalink, what seems to be your problem?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, you still doin it wrong, son...
[11:38] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD
[11:38] <cfhowlett> THIS is how you check your USB
[11:38] <MaxFrames> TJ-: from the users's perspective, given that if I can't fix this I will not switch from xp to ubuntu like I'd planned.... how do I fix it?
[11:39] <adrenalink> cfhowlett: I used the script listed in that page
[11:40] <adrenalink> (in the section you linked)
[11:40] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, so you're saying the downloaded ISO checksums don't match = bad download.  use torrents instead of direct download.
[11:41] <rypervenche> MaxFrames: There is almost always a fix in Linux, it's simply a matter of finding it. Be sure to give it a good try. Don't give up too easily.
[11:41] <TJ-> MaxFrames: The only way I know of is to try to obtain the correct modelines from the Windows side, and use those for the X server. Have you looked at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" to see if/what the X server and graphics drivers is being told/finding out about the display?
[11:41] <adrenalink> cfhowlett: NO. I said the downloaded iso match the checksum given here http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[11:41] <MaxFrames> so far I've only tried the live cd
[11:41] <MaxFrames> I'm reluctant to commit the OS to the hdd if I'm not sure I can fix all the most prominent issues
[11:41] <adrenalink> The USB checksum (which I check using the script I said) does not match.
[11:42] <adrenalink> SO I think I have to recreate the USB
[11:42] <TJ-> MaxFrames: pastebin the file I mentioned, lets see what the OS discovered
[11:42] <thom_> MaxFrames, booting from a live cd will not give you the best results for a dual monitor setup. I installed a Linux distro on a friends desktop that was running XP. It was buggy before it was installed. After the install it worked fine.
[11:42] <MaxFrames> well I can't now, because I've only have this single PC, and I've booted windows now
[11:42] <cybrNaut> Behi: preseed files are very touchy.  they are not merely configuration files, and order seems to be important.  In debian I've removed lines from a preseed.cfg, and it caused an infinite loop (iow, the installer is not smart enough to ask the user when data is omitted)
[11:42] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, instead of script, check the USB directly
[11:42] <MaxFrames> so what I can do is install ubuntu, then come back here
[11:43] <adrenalink> it's the same thing...
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I will need guidance step by step, I'm afraid
[11:43] <rypervenche> MaxFrames: You could shrink your NTFS partition, install Ubuntu side by side with Windows to test this out then remove them both and use only Ubuntu.
[11:43] <thom_> MaxFrames, it's super easy to install Ubuntu.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, can't be.  checking CD directly does NOT give a checksum hash output
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I have a whole hdd to devote to ubuntu , 200 gb
[11:43] <TJ-> adrenalink: If you're checksumming the entire USB device, and it is bigger than the ISO image (as it will be 99.99% of the time!) then the checksums will end up different. You need to limit the range of the checksum to the exact same number of bytes as are in the ISO image
[11:43] <MaxFrames> I want to keep xp on hdd1 and install ubuntu on hdd2
[11:44] <MaxFrames> and I want to be able to choose which to boot every time
[11:44] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: what TV do you have= manufacturer and model? what you describe sounds like as if overscan is turned on on your TV
[11:44] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, scratch that . .. let me read more
[11:44] <MaxFrames> it's a panasonic viera something
[11:45] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: exact model please :)
[11:45] <MaxFrames> when I install ubuntu, other than choosing to install on the blank hdd, where do I tell it to put grub? on the first hdd (the one with windows xp) or on the second hdd (the one with ubuntu)?
[11:46] <MaxFrames> panasonic is so smart that they didn't write the model anywhere :/
[11:46] <rayaan> how can i get the latest version of emacs in ubuntu ( apt-get install emacs24 installs 24.1.1) the latest stable version is 24.3
[11:46] <rayaan> ?
[11:46] <MaxFrames> I would have to dig out the manual
[11:46] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: look at the back of the TV
[11:46] <MaxFrames> it's screwed to the wall... it's a 42" plasma
[11:47] <MaxFrames> what about grub anyway, where would it go? hdd1 or hdd2? the installer lets me choose any
[11:47] <MaxFrames> _either_
[11:48] <MaxFrames> I'm a bit confused because I'd used ubuntu in wubi mode before
[11:48] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: how old is it and are you from the US or from EU?
[11:48] <MaxFrames> this time I don't want to use wubi, I want to give ubuntu its own hdd and use ext4
[11:48] <MaxFrames> but the installer doesn't clearly distinguish.... I can only choose to use ubuntu alongside windows, or replace windows
[11:49] <MaxFrames> I want to use it alongside, but not with wubi
[11:49] <MaxFrames> I'm in EU anyway and the tv is from 2009
[11:49] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: ok, wait a sec :)
[11:49] <thom_> MaxFrames, did you boot into the dvd/usb?
[11:49] <adrenalink> TJ-  cfhowlett I don't know exactly if the script in this section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_CD check only the number of bytes of the ISO, however I also tried this command:
[11:49] <adrenalink> sudo dd if=/dev/sdc1 bs=2048 count=375296 | md5sum
[11:49] <adrenalink> and the checksum is ( 94d39f583724c395446717be34077844 ) different from the UBuntu12.04 release one
[11:50] <TJ-> adrenalink: which exact ISO did you download? can you give me the filename, then I can check on the download page
[11:50] <adrenalink> I used ls -l ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso the know the size of che ISO
[11:50] <TJ-> adrenalink: thanks
[11:50] <MaxFrames> ok, it's a panasonic tx-p42s10e or tx-p42s10es
[11:51] <MaxFrames> thom_: I booted the dvd, and looked at the install choices
[11:51] <MaxFrames> it gave me those two, I expected three (wubi, dual boot, replace windows)
[11:52] <MaxFrames> I want dual boot
[11:52] <TJ-> adrenalink: So the file size of the ISO is 768606208?
[11:52] <adrenalink> TJ-  cfhowlett Yes.  2048 x 375296
[11:53] <thom_> I usually do laptop installs. My desktop install experience is limited so take this with a grain of salt. It should give you the options to install along side XP, replace XP, and something else. I am pretty sure you will have to use the something else option.
[11:53] <lucasredsn0w> mm
[11:53] <lucasredsn0w> emm...
[11:53] <TJ-> adrenalink: OK, so if the md5 is different then the image on USB is corrupt - re-write it
[11:53] <adrenalink> TJ- OK
[11:53] <cfhowlett> adrenalink, TJ- it does happen.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> TJ-, thanks
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> adrenalink, DON'T use any ISOs that have corrupt md5 sum
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> Maybe there're malwares inside them
[11:54] <MaxFrames> I've found a setting in the tv about overscan
[11:54] <thom_> MaxFrames, if you actually booted from the dvd it will not be the Wubi install
[11:54] <MaxFrames> and it's ON now
[11:54] <tsisco> Hello. I am having some issues with the Realtek 8188ee wireless adapter on my Toshiba Laptop. I have the driver installed and I can get wifi on it, but its not stable. Anyone have any suggestions?
[11:54] <lucasredsn0w> So be careful
[11:54] <adrenalink> lucasredsn0w Don't worry. The ISO is correct. The USB is not.
[11:55] <MaxFrames> if I turn overscan to off, in win xp, the image shrinks i.e. does not take the whole estate
[11:55] <lucasredsn0w> That;s ok
[11:55] <MaxFrames> but I guess I can play with it
[11:56] <MaxFrames> so, ok, if I boot from the dvd I will choose "install alongside windows" and it will dual boot
[11:56] <MaxFrames> so: on which hdd should I put the boot loader?
[11:56] <lucasredsn0w> adrenalink, change your USB drive
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> MaxFrames, On your master HDD
[11:57] <nmgmarques> Hi all. Having problems with postgresql. Trying top follow the guide over at https://www.openproject.org/projects/openproject/wiki/Installation_Ubuntu and am down to the bit where it tells me to create role openproject. In term, the prompt reads openproject@multibox:~$ and then I type CREATE ROLE openproject LOGIN ENCRYPTED PASSWORD 'my_password' NOINHERIT VALID UNTIL 'infinity'; but get a CREATE:command not found. Guessing this is b
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> Which installed your system
[11:57] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: go to "Menu -> Setup -> Other Settings -> Picture Overscan" and turn it to "Off" if it is currently "On". does it help :)?
[11:57] <lucasredsn0w> In most cases that should be "/dev/sda0"
[11:57] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: oh, and by the way, if you want to see what the model is, i think you can go to "Menu -> Setup -> System Menu -> System Information" ;)
[11:57] <nmgmarques> Guesing I have to som how get into postgresql?
[11:58] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: thanks, it'll probably work, I'll try
[11:59] <MaxFrames> so, I'll put grub on the drive on which windows xp is
[11:59] <MaxFrames> next and last question: if I let ubuntu do everything automatically, how will it partition the hdd, will it create the swap partition itself? or should I go for a manual install and partition myself?
[11:59] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: np. do you have access to the TV right now? would like to know if it worked ;)
[11:59] <TJ-> MaxFrames: Or you could install it to the Linux drive, and use the system's boot menu to choose the boot device - that stops Windows and Linux interfering with each other's bootloaders
[12:00] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: it works but on xp it shrinks the image too much, perhaps with ubuntu it will show it ok
[12:01] <ljsoftnet> can i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards
[12:01] <MaxFrames> TJ-: so if I do that, and then configure the bios to boot hdd2 first, I will be able to just use ubuntu and - if need be - change the bios settings to boot xp, without putting anything on the xp disk (not even grub)?
[12:02] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: the catalyst drivers also have a overscan/underscan setting, see: http://i.stack.imgur.com/ZKd0B.png . just saying ;)
[12:02] <ntz> hello
[12:02] <Blueeyez> hi ntz :)
[12:03] <cfhowlett> ntz, what is your ubuntu question?
[12:03] <TJ-> MaxFrames: Yes... most BIOS/Firmware have a 'hot' key you can press to choose the boot device without needing to change the BIOS's saved default, too
[12:03] <MaxFrames> nw0519230: and are there ati catalyst drivers for ubuntu?
[12:03] <MaxFrames> if I want to use proprietary drivers
[12:05] <chndn> on ubuntu...virtualbox is not running...
[12:05] <chndn> i donno why?
[12:05] <chndn> it says failed to create the virtualbox COM object
[12:05] <cfhowlett> chndn, error messages?
[12:05] <thom_> MaxFrames, there is an option in system settings to install third party drivers
[12:05] <cisconinja> i am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.10
[12:06] <MaxFrames> ok thanks
[12:06] <cfhowlett> chndn, go to #vbox for support
[12:06] <chndn> NS_ERROR_FACTORY_NOT_REGISTERED (0x80040154)
[12:06] <MaxFrames> what about the partitioning then, do I have to tell it to create the swap partition manually?
[12:07] <herkelBLUE> Hello, how do i create a file in linux that has execution privileges of ROOT (i think its called suid) .. i did sudo chmod +s and then i entererd "whoami" into the the file and it didnt say root
[12:08] <Blueeyez> if someone have a suggestion for Ubuntu future developement, where to post the suggestion?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> !contribute
[12:09] <Blueeyez> thx :)
[12:09] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: yes, there are, they can be selected/installed via this dialogue for example: http://i.stack.imgur.com/b7YPS.png
[12:10] <MaxFrames> sounds promising, now just tell me about the partitioning and I'll try to give it a go :)
[12:10] <cisconinja> i am successful in using cygwin and can export x application to my widows machine , i am able to start kwin & but failing to start kde desktop please help. this is on 13.10
[12:11] <shfinbgfo> I installed tor as adviced by their webpage
[12:11] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: looks like they even have the overscan/underscan setting in linux, see following picture for example: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MkVTHvrFnpw/UNSJit73CEI/AAAAAAAAJvM/tm-yGL-CJXY/s1600/Catalyste-Control-Center-Overscan.png ;) can't tell for sure though, as i am a nvidia user, not amd ;)
[12:11] <shfinbgfo> if i type tor into dash nothing pops up
[12:12] <MaxFrames> very good
[12:12] <nw0519230> MaxFrames: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/how-to-remove-thick-black-border-for.html
[12:13] <nw0519230> ;)
[12:13] <ljsoftnet> can i make 2 instances of volumeicon? i mean two volume icon in system tray for 2 sound cards
[12:14] <shfinbgfo> what are bridge relays and how do i set them up?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> shfinbgfo  what do you want to achieve?
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> i want to browse anonymously to be able to access the bay
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> i am in a country where the bay seems to be blocked
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> the bay?
[12:15] <ikonia> ebay I assume
[12:15] <ikonia> shfinbgfo: talk to your isp
[12:15] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, aaarg, there she blow!
[12:15] <shfinbgfo> due to the aggressive legislation of fallacies which go against the legal authority of the great jurist stephan kinsella