[00:00] <nixternal> setting the screensaver to 1 minute to see if that is it
[00:01] <nixternal> yup, that is it
[00:01] <albert23> and you have an intel card?
[00:01] <nixternal> what kind of screensaver is that? :p
[00:01] <nixternal> yup
[00:02] <nixternal> interesting, even when I click "Preview" it does that
[00:07] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/383129
[00:08] <Sarvatt> can disable compiz to fix it until the driver is updated, its already fixed upstream just needs packaging
[01:37] <DanielRM> Anyone find that their Broadcom wireless suddenly doesn't work?
[10:35]  * MaWaLe is away: brb
[10:37]  * MaWaLe is back (gone 00:01:34)
[10:39] <maxb> The double suspend when suspending via keyboard bug is back in Karmic
[10:40] <maxb> Also g-p-m is now showing a popup saying "your computer failed to suspend", even though it did
[10:40] <maxb> with *no* additional info whatsoever :-(
[10:43] <yofel> *sigh* - It would be nice if Karmic finally got a sane default for switching keyboard layouts. The default is still "both alt keys together", which never works...
[11:12] <hifi> alt-shift is the industry standard ;)
[12:16] <Hew> Has anyone heard anything about Firefox 3.5 (as default) in Karmic, from the Mozilla team or otherwise?
[12:48]  * arand : 101 updates all of a sudden, sheesh.
[13:35] <scizzo-> Hew: isnt that only beta?
[13:51] <gumpert345> Hi, Id like to play a little with 9.10 how can I update a Jaunty install? from intrepid to jaunty there was a special apt-get command?
[13:53] <gumpert345> found
[14:43] <Hew> scizzo-: yes it's beta, but I think it should be released by Karmic release
[14:44] <Hew> scizzo-: besides, Hardy shipped with 3.0 b5
[15:10] <c_korn> what setting do I have to enable in PolicyKit to be able to change the fast-user-switch-applet settings?
[15:50] <arand> Funny stuff, I'm getting crashes for lsb_release, meaning that if I try to report it, apport invokes lsb_release, which will crash and if I try to report it, apport invokes lsb_release, which crashes, and if I try to report it...
[15:59] <dholbach> Packaging Training with mvo in #ubuntu-classroom now!
[16:41] <maxb> Anyone else found xchat crashing a log on Karmic in the last day or two?
[17:15] <miik> what is 'One Hundred Paper Cuts' ?
[17:16] <arand> 2009-06-04 16:54:25 status unpacked libsane 1.0.20-4ubuntu1
[17:17] <arand> Um, in dpkg-log if I get ~ 70 lines of the above kind, is that an indication that something is wrong?
[17:17] <arand> s/dpkg-log/dpkg.log/
[17:31] <maxb> miik: https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts
[17:41] <oDesk> Hello, i'm on 9.10 karmic, unloaded Alsa driver and i can't get it to reload the taskbar icon and sound output isn't presented!!!
[19:08] <shaya> do people have problems w/ flash hanging firefox after one closes a tab?
[19:09] <shaya> firefox is hanging a lot on me, and main thing I see is it in regards to flash
[19:09] <shaya> flash also loses its ability to play audio
[19:09] <pace_t_zulu> anyone else having problems with open-vm-toolbox today?
[19:09] <pace_t_zulu> since i today's package upgrades open-vm-toolbox doesn't enter fullscreen properly
[19:20] <oDesk> shaya: all applications was hanging until i removed the graphical effects
[19:21] <shaya> only firefox hangs for me
[19:21] <shaya> and needs  to be killed and restarted
[19:21] <shaya> seems to be flash and audio related
[19:21] <nixternal> back with yet another issue...seems with the kernel...it will not boot, so I go into recovery mode and it doesn't boot either, it gets stuck at the point where it is detecting the USB mouse. is this common? anyone else experiencing it?
[19:23] <nixternal> booyah...it unfreezes after a certain amount of time and lets me know that /proc/cmdline is missing modules...go figure, /dev/disk/by-uuid/4830840327jlfjdla8=f-d8as0300432 does not exist :)
[19:23] <nixternal> that was easy
[19:25] <oDesk> nixternal: i was having kernel booting problem using "quite splash" mode
[19:25] <oDesk> then i fixed it by changing that mode to
[19:26] <oDesk> vga=0x318
[19:26] <nixternal> well, in recovery mode there shouldn't be "quiet", just 'ro single'
[19:26] <nixternal> this is dying in recovery mode as well
[19:27] <oDesk> nixternal: i'm not an expert, but just hint
[19:27] <oDesk> i still have problems with touchpad clicks
[19:27]  * nixternal is jealous that vga=0x318 works for you though
[19:27] <nixternal> I can run that on the same machine with debian, and it works like a champ...run it with Ubuntu and it kills my stuff as well
[19:27] <oDesk> and sound, which disappeared after unloading alsa and never reloaded again
[19:28] <oDesk> nixternal: so, it should work if you have graphic card issue
[19:30] <oDesk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168470
[19:30] <oDesk> nixternal: the url above where i got the boot fixed
[19:31] <nixternal> what is weird is this laptop, which is running Kubuntu Karmic has 0 issues, but Ubuntu desktop dies
[19:31] <nixternal> and it is related to drive uuid according to the error message once it pops up after the timeout
[19:48] <nixternal> for some strange reason, the uuid for my sda5_crypt was wrong in /etc/crypttab
[19:48] <nixternal> though that doesn't seem to fix it either
[20:02] <oDesk> anyone have suggestion to fix the touchpad clicks ?
[20:09] <Twigathy> yetanother kernel update :o
[21:29] <maxb> nixternal: The drive uuid probing code has changed a lot, you'd probably be best specifying a root device using plain old /dev/foo just to get it to boot
[21:29] <maxb> Then you can play with blkid, to see what uuids are actually being detected from your disks, and compare with what's configured in fstab and stuff
[21:48] <FFForever> any idea why i have no sound in flash?
[21:48] <FFForever> nvm no sound @ all
[21:53] <mrwes> Just ran update manager and I'm getting a request for a partial update, should I run that?
[21:56] <mrwes> anyone alive today?
[21:59] <scizzo-> mrwes: you know what that means right?
[21:59] <scizzo-> mrwes: the partial update
[22:00] <mrwes> no...thus why I'm asking
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: it means either that a package is broken or dependency problems
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: meaning that not everything will be updated
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: its better to wait until that has been fixed
[22:00] <scizzo-> mrwes: otherwise other stuff might get broken
[22:00] <mrwes> scizzo-, yah that's exactly what it said
[22:01] <mrwes> scizzo-, so sit on it, and it'll fixor itself?
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: its a alpha system
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: this will come more often then you think
[22:01] <mrwes> again...that I am aware
[22:01] <mrwes> ok
[22:01] <scizzo-> mrwes: waiting for it to be fixed is best
[22:02] <mrwes> so DON"T click on partial upgrade?
[22:03] <scizzo-> wait have you clicked upgrade the packages or something?
[22:03] <mrwes> I just ran the update manager
[22:03] <mrwes> .
[22:03] <scizzo-> and no you do not want to partial upgrade
[22:04] <mrwes> danke
[22:04] <scizzo-> clicking no should give you information about packages that is not going to be install etc
[22:04] <scizzo-> mrwes: dep problem thingy
[22:04] <mrwes> got it
[22:06] <mrwes> thanks for the information
[22:06] <scizzo-> yw
[22:36] <joshjtl> hi folks I'm trying to have my touchpad disable when i plug in my usb mouse... synclient Touchpad=1 works, but having this file in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules with: http://fpaste.org/paste/13919 doesnt work to disable touchpad when i plug in usb mouse...
[22:37] <arand> hmm, I just use the gconf value: gconftool --set --type bool /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/touchpad_enabled true/false , just mapped to a hotkey currently...
[22:39]  * arand realises that that might have been just an irrelevant comment
[22:40] <joshjtl> anyone?
[22:47] <joshjtl> hi folks I'm trying to have my touchpad disable when i plug in my usb mouse... synclient Touchpad=1 works, but having this file in /etc/udev/rules.d/01-touchpad.rules with: http://fpaste.org/paste/13919 doesnt work to disable touchpad when i plug in usb mouse...
[23:08] <KDesk> hi
[23:09] <KDesk> Using Jaunty, what options do I need to set (and which not) in the kernel config to have KMS with intel.
[23:09] <KDesk> Or does anyone know a compiled kernel with that options?
[23:10] <KDesk> When will that by enabled in karmic?
[23:19] <Sarvatt> its enabled in karmic now, with the karmic kernel you just edit /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf and add options i915 modeset=1 to it
[23:19] <Sarvatt> theres no KMS on 2.6.28 in jaunty if that's what you're asking
[23:37] <KDesk> Sarvatt: thanks for the info. I am using in jaunty your xserver mesa drm and intel packages from xorg edgers, and the 2.6.30 rc8 kernel.
[23:37] <KDesk> Does this kernel have kms?
[23:37] <Sarvatt> depends where you got the kernel
[23:37] <Sarvatt> are you using karmics?
[23:37] <Sarvatt> 2.6.30-8.9
[23:37] <KDesk> ah, the kernel is from the semi official from ubuntu.
[23:38] <Sarvatt> the mainline ones?
[23:38] <KDesk> 2.6.30-020630rc8-generic
[23:38] <KDesk> yes, I think so
[23:39] <KDesk> from these kernel config file: # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set
[23:39] <KDesk> It is disabled?
[23:43] <Sarvatt> that config option just turns it on by default
[23:44] <Sarvatt> on the mainline kernels its a bit harder to enable it, you're going to need to edit your /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[23:44] <Sarvatt> and add these 3 (in the same order)
[23:44] <Gourlis> anyone knows here if I will can use 9.10 with ATI Radeon X1200 which ATI stopped support ? because 9.04 was flickering on my system so I use 8.10
[23:44] <Sarvatt> intel_agp
[23:44] <Sarvatt> drm
[23:44] <Sarvatt> i915 modeset=1intel_agp
[23:44] <Sarvatt> drm
[23:44] <Sarvatt> i915 modeset=1
[23:45] <Sarvatt> ahh sorry
[23:45] <Sarvatt> intel_agp on one line, drm on the next, then i915 modeset=1 on the third
[23:45] <Sarvatt> then do a update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u to rebuild the initrd
[23:46] <Sarvatt> KDesk: go figure you left, i have part messages off  :)
[23:47] <KDesk> My system freeze. Thanks Sarvattfor the info!
[23:47] <maxb> urgh. I really must remember to deactivate apt-listchanges when doing a do-release-upgrade in the future :-/
[23:48] <Sarvatt> its because you need to do the initrd change to use the mainline kernel KDesk
[23:49] <Sarvatt> you cant just edit the modprobe.d option because it loads intel_agp too late, I sent ya a message with what to do
[23:50] <Sarvatt> it's alot easier to use the karmic kernel where you can do that though :D
[23:51] <KDesk> Ah, thaknks Sarvatt, I will then download the one from Karmic, when It doesn't work then I will try with the mainline.


[04:22] <blkperl> so is bug 797257 wishlist or backport ?
[04:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 797257 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "New Upstream Release 2.8.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 254)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797257
[04:25] <charlie-tca> blkperl: looks fixed-released. The latest version of pidgin in oneiric is 2.8.0
[04:50] <blkperl> charlie-tca: thanks
[09:23] <duanedesign> vish: ping
[09:29] <vish> duanedesign: pong..
[09:29] <duanedesign> vish: good day vish
[09:30] <vish> duanedesign: you too, but day?  wow! up early? ;)
[09:30] <duanedesign> vish: i had a user in #ubuntu-beginners-team wanting to join the bug squad mentorship group a
[09:30] <vish> duanedesign: sure, feel free to add them
[09:31] <duanedesign> vish: yes i did a bunch of physical work yesterday and went to sleep early
[09:31] <duanedesign> so i woke up about 30 minutes ago :P
[09:32] <duanedesign> vish: thank you
[09:32] <vish> np.. :)
[14:20] <balaji_> am using ubuntu11.04, sometimes when i click shutdown, instead of shutdown it gets restarted. why this problem
[14:25] <valsum> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/735868
[14:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 735868 in linux (Ubuntu) "Shutdown restarts the computer (affects: 1) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[14:28] <balaji_> what i have to do now?
[14:30] <valsum> Hopefully it will get fixed.
[14:32] <balaji_> hmm fine
[14:34] <balaji_> valsum:i have apache2 in my system. it is configured as apache will get started on boot. I dont need this, how to make this not to start on boot?
[14:34] <balaji_> (i know this not right channel to ask this but i didnt get response from appropriate channel)
[14:46] <ronin___> valsum: In which linux did you install apache2?
[14:46] <ronin___> balaji: In which linux did you install apache2?
[14:46] <balaji_> ubuntu11
[14:47] <ronin___> valsum: sorry for mistake
[14:47] <ronin___> balaji: In which linux did you install apache2?
[14:47] <ronin___> balaji: you mean 11.04
[14:47] <Pici> ronin___: balaji_ is getting help in #ubuntu...
[14:47] <balaji_> ronin__:yeah 11.04
[14:47] <ronin___> balaji: let me I will help you
[14:47] <ronin___> sorry all guys for this help
[14:48] <ronin___> I know here is not appropriate place for answer to this question
[14:50] <balaji_> ronin__: one person said me to remove /etc/init.d/apache2 but i doubted whether it is good. so i asked him.. now i am getting response like sysv-rc-conf which i didnt understand
[14:53] <micahg> balaji_: you should probably ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:53] <micahg> oops
[20:06] <bil21al> i have now upgrade my oneirics but now i report the bug but this says that  upgrade to oneirics  3 days ago..i have open update manager it says no update available/ what can i do??now
[20:08] <charlie-tca> When did you actually upgrade from natty to oneiric?
[20:08] <charlie-tca> That is the date ubuntu-bug and apport use as the upgraded date
[20:08] <charlie-tca> not the updates you should be running daily
[20:09] <charlie-tca> hm, once again repeating across channels
[20:10] <charlie-tca> bil21al: please don't ask the questions in multiple channels
[20:10] <bil21al> ok i think that oneirics+1 is oneirics channel they knew batter so i that why asked
[20:11] <charlie-tca> Many of the people will stop responding when you that, since we don't know how many channels you asked in, and how many responses you already got.
[20:11] <bil21al> no i have downloaded al[pha1 and than install it charlie-tca
[20:11] <bil21al> ok i will never do  that
[20:12] <bil21al> charlie-tca  plz bro tell me what can i do about this upgrade problem??
[20:12] <charlie-tca> Have you tried the command line to see if maybe update-manager is broken ?
[20:13] <bil21al> tell me the  command?
[20:13] <charlie-tca> I normally run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a terminal everyday.
[20:13] <charlie-tca> since yesterday, I show 49 updates here
[20:15] <charlie-tca> If everything says no updates available, I would not worry about it, since you are using Oneiric.
[20:15] <bil21al> yes yes before i report the bug now i also do so i run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and than  updates downloded than i restart and report the bug but in bug description there was written that  upgrade to oneirics 3 days ago
[20:16] <bil21al> so how can i resolve it.its annoying
[20:16] <charlie-tca> I have no answer. I don't know for sure what that date is, and don't pay much attention to it during triaging
[20:17] <bil21al> ok thanks bro
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Maybe that is the date that package updated last, I don't really know
[20:18] <Ampelbein> bil21al: that date is added by apport by examining the last time /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log was modified.
[20:20] <bil21al> but i now just before reporting the bug i update my system from terminal and also check the update manager for updates but there were no updates so i report the bug than i read the description there was written this UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-06-28 (3 days ago)
[20:20] <bil21al> bug 804483
[20:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804483 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy window vanished after some time (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804483
[20:21] <bil21al> yes yes this bug  ubot4
[20:21] <Ampelbein> bil21al: that file is only modified when you actually do a distribution upgrade, not when doing normal upgrades.
[20:23] <bil21al> so when somebody said me there to upgrade your system than what will i say..?
[20:24] <Ampelbein> bil21al: did somebody tell you to?
[20:26] <bil21al> no..ok if i ask i will explain this so thank you
[20:26] <bil21al> no ok if any one ask i will explain this what i have told you  so thak you


[00:46] <DrHalan> nearly every app that is using opengl is setting the wrong resolution/frequency for my screen
[00:46] <DrHalan> and i have to restart x...
[00:50] <leagris> bonsoir
[00:56] <DrHalan> its really annoying me
[00:56] <DrHalan> i can't use half my games...
[01:26] <Andre_Gondim> my gwibber doesn't display any tweet
[01:26] <Andre_Gondim> the main windows is blank
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mine works atm
[01:28] <gnomefreak> what version?
[01:29] <Andre_Gondim> let me see
[01:30] <Andre_Gondim> 2.31.1
[01:31] <BUGabundo> its dying some times
[01:31] <BUGabundo> race condiion
[01:31] <BUGabundo> Andre_Gondim: kill it, make sure its not running (ps axuw  | grep gwib
[01:32] <BUGabundo> then launch in debug: gwibber-service -d -o
[01:32] <BUGabundo> followed by gwibber -d in another shell, once 1st end syncing
[01:32]  * gnomefreak uses ps aux |grep
[01:33] <BUGabundo> I use psx
[01:33] <BUGabundo> alias love
[01:33] <Andre_Gondim> BUGabundo, do you want the first or second shell?
[01:33] <BUGabundo> none
[01:34] <BUGabundo> its you who want it to run fine
[01:34] <BUGabundo> if its crashing, find out why
[01:34] <BUGabundo> btw, twitter api is down and StatusNet released 0.9.3
[01:35] <gnomefreak> if it isnt workin gwhen running in term. file a bug using ubuntu-bug
[01:35] <Andre_Gondim> BUGabundo, but identi.ca does no appears...
[01:36] <BUGabundo> wfm with dailly ppa
[01:36] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 2.31.2~bzr750-0ubuntu1~daily1
[01:36] <BUGabundo> Andre_Gondim: which kernel?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> mine too
[01:36] <BUGabundo> desktop couch was having a probs a few weeks ago
[01:36] <Andre_Gondim> 2.6.35
[01:36] <BUGabundo> maybe u are on an older kernel?
[01:37] <BUGabundo> Linux BluBUG 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:37] <Andre_Gondim> I did a fresh install yestarday
[01:37] <BUGabundo> ah
[01:37] <Andre_Gondim> Linux andregondim-eti-br 2.6.35-6-generic #9-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 1 03:01:23 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:37] <BUGabundo> ok
[01:37] <BUGabundo> so pastebin the traces
[01:57] <Andre_Gondim> BUGabundo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/458558/
[01:57] <BUGabundo> error: (6, 'name lookup timed out')
[01:58] <BUGabundo> haven't seen any of those in a whyel
[01:58] <BUGabundo> *while
[01:58] <BUGabundo> plus Ica is up
[01:58] <BUGabundo> could be the new api
[01:58] <BUGabundo> andersk: can you try trunk?
[01:58] <BUGabundo> just bzr branch it
[01:58] <Andre_Gondim> you said ppa?
[01:59] <BUGabundo> and start from ./gwibber/bin/gwibber-service and same for gwibber
[01:59] <BUGabundo> well, ppa will replace yours
[01:59] <BUGabundo> bzr won't
[01:59] <Andre_Gondim> how can I use the trunk
[01:59] <Andre_Gondim> ?
[01:59] <BUGabundo> bzr won't
[02:00] <BUGabundo> bzr branch lp:gwibber
[02:01] <Andre_Gondim> brb
[02:02] <gnomefreak> use the daily PPA not bzr if you dont plan i making changes to code
[02:05] <sebsebseb> uhmm  so in the morning my vm with btrfs messes up from alternate CD probably since how the Internet connection went or something.  I have just done one though, and logged in twice, and second time I am trying to do updates, and yeah it seems that has just crashed on me.  I guess closing the vm down and trying again may do it though.  On the subject of btrfs  I haven't read up on it properly yet.  I know its just a file system so under the hood,
[02:05] <sebsebseb> so not meant to be expecting anything graphical?  What about snapshots how is that done, terminal?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Well lets find out if I can do updates.  At least I didn't have to 100% start over, since I could change the two partitions that were there from when I first tried.
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Also this vm gives me a little error message, when I start it.
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Or whatever that is.
[02:27] <jjesse> good evening i have a question about maverick, using alpha2 of the netbook edition, running under VirtualBox and when starting up I am prompted with a screen prompting me to either run Ubuntu Netbook or Install, after selecting run, the screen flashes dark and then i get nothing more then a background
[02:31] <sebsebseb> From alternate ISO above, not CD, and the updates are installed :) (and back in the vm account after a reboot)
[02:31] <sebsebseb> jjesse_:  uhmm
[02:31] <jjesse_> sorry dropped network connection
[02:31] <sebsebseb> jjesse_: yes I saw
[02:32] <sebsebseb> right Unity and alpha 2 and Virtualbox
[02:32] <sebsebseb> I haven't tried myself yet, but other people have
[02:32] <sebsebseb> uh I think you missed that
[02:32] <sebsebseb> I haven't tried myself yet, but other people have
[02:32] <sebsebseb> and they had problems
[02:32] <jjesse> is unity = to netbook or slightly different?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Alpha 2 is using Unity by default
[02:33] <sebsebseb> for the Netbook Edition
[02:33] <jjesse> since i don't usually use ubuntu (normally a kubuntu uesr) is the "install" window new to maverick?
[02:33] <sebsebseb> and it wants a computer that can do 3D straight away, according to a bug thread that is linked to from the alpha2 page
[02:34] <sebsebseb> jjesse: if you mean the ISO, its been quite a while now, if not a rather long time even, where  can  try from the  CD/ISO  in a live session or just install, and I mean the desktop version
[02:35] <jjesse> i understand that
[02:35] <jjesse> in kubuntu the selection to either install or boot from the live cd is still text based, not in a window
[02:35] <sebsebseb> you mean the graphical installer?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> alternate ISO is text based
[02:35] <jjesse> i understand that
[02:37] <sebsebseb> I don't normally use the netbook versions, but I did test  the beta or whatever for Lucid,  and  I had a vm of  10.10 alpha 1 netbook as well as desktop,  and not tried alpha 2 yet in vm, but I have a feeling I won't get far with it, since  the lack of 3D support
[02:37] <jjesse> http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3013/screenqi.png is the screen that looks different from kubuntu to ubuntu
[02:38] <jjesse> ubiquity is letting me do the install, so curious as to what happens
[02:38] <sebsebseb> jjesse: ah yes that
[02:38] <jjesse> sorry if i didn't explain myself
[02:38] <sebsebseb> the alternate CD is like before with the languages and count down for 10.10 alpha 2
[02:38] <jjesse> is that screen new to maverick or did it come out w/ lucid?
[02:39] <jjesse> like i said i  am normally a kubuntu user
[02:39] <sebsebseb> The thing your showing me in the screenshot came with 10.04
[02:39] <jjesse> intersting
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jjesse: the installer for Ubuntu 10.04 also improved quite a bit
[02:39] <sebsebseb> a nice slideshow
[02:39] <jjesse> so i'm seeing
[02:39] <sebsebseb> well improved slideshow over the 9.10 one
[02:39] <jjesse> all things lacking in kubuntu :(
[02:40] <jjesse> well kubuntu has a slideshow but not as good
[02:40] <sebsebseb> however for 10.10 they are planning on doing a completly new installer
[02:40] <sebsebseb> jjesse: indeed they focus on Gnome mainly, and KDE hardly at all
[02:40] <sebsebseb> loads of people on the web complain about that even
[02:40] <sebsebseb> and on IRC even at times
[02:41] <sebsebseb> jjesse: I know this is an offical Ubuntu channel and all that, so maybe I  shoudn't reallly mention it here, but  theres a Mint KDE  RC now.  and from a screenshot it looked pretty good,  I haven't vm'd tried yet.
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Mint Gnome uh no thanks for me, but  Mint KDE probably isn't that bad.
[02:42] <IdleOne> I think the kubuntu devs would disagree with you about how much time is spent working on kubuntu
[02:42] <jjesse> i agree
[02:43] <jjesse> i help out w/ kubuntu devs and also maintain the kubuntu-docs package :)
[02:43] <sebsebseb> jjesse: its ashame really about Kubuntu though how for example it won't have a QT version of the Software Centre
[02:43] <sebsebseb> I meant Canonical don't focus on it
[02:43] <IdleOne> I personally don't use kubuntu because I don't like the kde environment but I know people who do work on the project and they work hard
[02:43] <sebsebseb> I read before that apparnatly it only has two Canonical devs
[02:43] <jjesse> kubuntu hasn't had a decent package manager in a long time
[02:44] <IdleOne> Canonical officially supports and sponsors kubuntu.
[02:44] <jjesse> canonical only pays 2 devs but officially supports kubuntu
[02:44] <jjesse> but i am sorry for digressing the channel
[02:44] <IdleOne> jjesse: yeah we went a tad offtopic
[02:44] <IdleOne> but I felt it was worth giving props to the kubuntu devs
[02:44] <sebsebseb> jjesse: well there was  hardly anything going on here anyway, but yeah we went a bit offtopic
[02:45] <IdleOne> devs/volunteers
[02:45] <jjesse> well we will see what happens in a minute when my install finishes :)
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> IdleOne: <3
[02:45]  * jjesse hugs JontheEchidna
[02:45] <IdleOne> JontheEchidna: :)
[02:45] <jjesse> why are you hiding here johslarsen
[02:45] <jjesse> don
[02:45] <jjesse> doh
[02:45] <jjesse> why are you hding here JontheEchidna
[02:46] <JontheEchidna> so that I can help the kubuntu types when they run +1 ;)
[02:47] <IdleOne> JontheEchidna: is there a kubuntu+1 channel?
[02:47] <JontheEchidna> IdleOne: nope, #ubuntu+1 is recommended
[02:47] <IdleOne> ok
[02:47] <IdleOne> good to know
[02:47] <sebsebseb> JontheEchidna: Are you a Kubuntu dev?
[02:47] <JontheEchidna> sebsebseb: volunteer, yes
[02:47] <jjesse> yes he is
[02:48] <sebsebseb> ok attack of the Kubuntu devs :D
[02:48] <JontheEchidna> :P
[02:48] <JontheEchidna> The Kubuntu Ninjas hide in wait ;)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> so do the ops
[02:49] <sebsebseb> yep
[02:49] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: no ther ehasnt been for a while
[02:50] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: #k+1 you mean?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: yes
[02:50] <gnomefreak> it was around for a month or so
[02:51] <sebsebseb> gnomefreak: So this snapshot stuff with btrfs how to do that?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> sebsebseb: dont understand what you mean by how to do that?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> it will be if not already added to the installer
[02:52] <sebsebseb> well I got a vm now with btrfs and I am wondering how to do stuff with btrfs,  I guess I will need to do some reading or whatever
[02:53] <Sensiva> Can someone confirm that right clicking a channel entry in channels tree in xchat doesn't show "Add to Favorites" option?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> sebsebseb: would be a good idea. Since it is so new to us i dont think there is a guide or if that many people that use it to be advised to
[02:53] <IdleOne> Sensiva: I have the option
[02:53] <gnomefreak> xchat or xchat-gnome
[02:53] <Sensiva> IdleOne installed from repos?
[02:53] <IdleOne> xchat for me
[02:53] <Sensiva> gnomefreak xchat by zed
[02:54] <IdleOne> Sensiva: yes from repos, xchat-common to be precise
[02:54] <gnomefreak> i dont have that option using xchat on Mozilla servers
[02:54] <sebsebseb> gnomefreak: well there was a btrfs guy / filesystem guy around, but hes not active here at the moment
[02:54] <Sensiva> IdleOne did you try to compile from source once before?
[02:54] <IdleOne> Sensiva: never
[02:54] <Sensiva> hmm
[02:55] <sebsebseb> gnomefreak: your second bit, your saying loads of people shoudn't be using it?
[02:55] <IdleOne> I have always used the xchat-common from repos
[02:55] <gnomefreak> Sensiva: no clue who you are reffering to
[02:55] <Sensiva> so gnomefreak doesn't have the option, and IdleOne and me have it
[02:55] <gnomefreak> Sensiva: no i meant was not that many people have used it i suspect
[02:55] <Sensiva> and I tried check on a vbox and it wasn't there
[02:55] <IdleOne> Sensiva: I came accros a couple of people in #xchat that did not have it either
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Sensiva: right clicking on a channel?
[02:56] <Sensiva> IdleOne 32 or 64?
[02:56] <IdleOne> 64
[02:56] <Sensiva> gnomefreak right clicking on a channel entry in the tree
[02:56] <sebsebseb> gnomefreak: did you just message Sensiva instead of me by mistake?
[02:56] <IdleOne> gnomefreak: right click on channel name in tree
[02:57] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: i dont have that option i only have a couple of things
[02:57] <IdleOne> in maverick correct?
[02:57] <Sensiva> gnomefreak arch? 32/64?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> sebsebseb: sorry that was for you
[02:57] <gnomefreak> 32bit maverick yes
[02:57] <sebsebseb> gnomefreak: thought so
[02:57] <Sensiva> Thank you all
[02:57] <Sensiva> it seems it is lost in 32 builds
[02:57] <IdleOne> Sensiva: so did we pass?
[02:57] <IdleOne> thought so
[02:58] <Sensiva> IdleOne yes sure you passed ;)
[02:58] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: using what I just used
[02:58] <IdleOne> it is a very useful feature and should be put back
[03:29] <Sensiva> IdleOne do you already have favorite channels in the list?
[06:37] <LSD|Ninja> Automatic kernel cleaner-upper this version?
[07:09] <lapion> hmm latest maverick backported-lucid kernel seems to be stablest so for for i915 with i855 chipset
[13:18] <HappyNwb> I have a dual boot setup, Vista and Ubuntu, afaik the Grub boot loader is on the Vista harddrive, but I want to move the Grub boot loader over to the hardrive containing the Ubuntu installation. How can I move the boot loader over from one harddrive to the other?
[13:19] <HappyNwb> I plan to reformat and reinstall Vista harddrive, but do not want to disturb my dual boot setup.
[13:19] <arand> HappyNwb: Using Maverick?
[13:19] <HappyNwb> It's a general question I guess. Any way will do.
[13:20] <arand> Then it's more appropriate for #ubuntu I guess.
[13:21] <HappyNwb> Is #ubuntu an other irc channel?
[13:21] <HappyNwb> What is this one for? I thought this channel was for Ubuntu in general
[13:22] <void^> this is #ubuntu+1. as the topic says, it's for ubuntu alpha/beta discussion.
[13:22] <nigelb> HappyNwb: this one is for the next release for ubuntu, mainly testing and feedback
[15:06] <perlsyntax> where can i download the ubuntu 10.10 dvd iso?
[15:06] <IdleOne> /TOPIC
[15:07] <jpds> perlsyntax: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.10/alpha-2/
[15:07] <perlsyntax> thanks:)
[15:07] <BUGabundo> !dailies
[15:07] <BUGabundo> !daily
[15:07] <perlsyntax> all i see is cd image.
[15:08] <IdleOne> I don't think there are DVD images yet
[15:08] <perlsyntax> that what i was looking for.
[15:09] <perlsyntax> I hope ubuntu don't have prob with black sceen like 10.04
[15:09] <jpds> perlsyntax: Scroll down.
[15:09] <perlsyntax> i see it now.
[15:09] <perlsyntax> lol@me
[15:11] <perlsyntax> anyone have prob with the ubuntu 10.10?
[15:12] <perlsyntax> :D let hope not
[15:15] <BluesKaj> is 10.10 using gnome 3 ?
[15:17] <iddo> BluesKaj: it won't use gnome-shell by default
[15:24] <BluesKaj> iddo, excellent , thanks... I'm thinking of switching my desktop from kde to the new gnome 2.3 , altho i still object to default top of the screen panel , is a bottom panel optional yet /
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> <----- old windows guy...old habits die hard :)
[15:26] <iddo> btw if u use laptop then unity is the new default, vertical panel on left, good for wide screen space
[15:27] <iddo> i think gnome-shell has activities on left, and panel on top
[15:28] <iddo> but old gnome-panel you could move to bottom without problems
[15:28] <BluesKaj> I have a laptop but I don't experiment with it , iddo ...my desktop is where do my fooling around, so to speak
[15:29] <iddo> ok if u like to experiment then u can install alpha2 and then try to apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I also have an ubuntu server on the network for media and backup
[15:30] <iddo> the desktop image still comes with compiz by default
[15:30] <BluesKaj> iddo , do you recommend removing kubuntu-desktop/kde ?
[15:31] <iddo> u mean first dist-upgrade instead of clean install?
[15:33] <iddo> i guess dist-upgrade from kubuntu will install latest kde, but i guess gnome-shell will be in repositories?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> yeah i was thinking of a do-release upgrade -d , and then sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list , then installing gnome-shell , after removing kde ...complicated , maybe I'll mess up
[15:36] <iddo> some people like to keep /home on different partition for their configs and do clean install for / parition
[15:37] <iddo> or u can just backup your home dir stuff and do clean install, probably less chance to have problems this way, especially if u plan to switch from kde to gnome anyway
[15:38] <iddo> if u really want to experiment u can install with btrfs filesystem instead of ext4
[15:39] <BluesKaj> iddo, yeah i'll just do clean install, and any nondefault apps save the config files anyway ... ext4 is experimental enough for me
[15:40] <BluesKaj> as long as i don't format, that is.
[15:41] <iddo> why not format?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> no need
[15:42] <iddo> clean install without format?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:42] <BluesKaj> no need for backing up files
[15:43] <iddo> so u delete dirs in / ?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I'll drop to a tty and remove kde
[15:44] <BluesKaj> no i don't delete dirs
[15:44] <iddo> i think we have different meanings to the term clean install
[15:45] <BluesKaj> not really my clean install isn't actually a proper clean install as such, it's more .like
[15:45] <BluesKaj> a reinstall
[15:47] <iddo> what happens if u dont delete /usr and so on, and then do new install there?
[15:47] <iddo> i think the installer doesnt let u proceed without format
[15:47] <BluesKaj> i have done clean installs after formatting tho , but sometimes just a reinstall is necessary after stuff breaks and can't be fixed
[15:48] <BluesKaj> iddo, yes it does, one just uses manual partitioning
[15:49] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:40] <h00k> anyone running btrfs on a SSD/
[17:05] <soadkombucha> Why can't I remove PulseAudio without removing Ubuntu-Desktop?
[17:05] <IdleOne>  soadkombucha: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. you can safely remove it and then re-install later
[17:06] <IdleOne> soadkombucha: no it is not the entire desktop
[17:06] <IdleOne> it is basically a list of packages that need to be installed
[17:06] <soadkombucha> Let me try a reboot after "sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" and "sudo ./realtekaudiodrivers.sh" to see if I have sound
[17:07] <IdleOne> when you install ubuntu-desktop it calls a list of packages. those packages get installed. when you remove ubuntu-desktop it removes only the list
[17:07] <IdleOne> err
[17:07] <gnomefreak> other than bootdmesg what other file would hold plymouth errors?
[17:08]  * gnomefreak cant find any to save my life
[17:09] <gnomefreak> you may not want to remove *-desktop packages on devel cycle
[17:09] <gnomefreak> win 18
[17:11] <soadkombucha> OK so still no udio I'm removing the source and reextracting the tar files
[17:16] <soadkombucha> Hmmm no luck
[17:20] <soadkombucha> OK I don't have ANY sound, and alsamixer won't load
[17:22] <bjsnider> ok, if anybody buys one of the wd "green" drives, you have to use the wdidle dos app to turn off the autopark feature, because the drive heads move into park position in a way that is incompatible with the linux kernel's timing
[17:23] <penguin42> hmm that's annoying, no way to do it from hdparm?
[17:27] <soadkombucha> Are there going to be lots of problems if I downgrade the kernel??
[17:32] <gnomefreak> you should always have at least 2 kernels in grub
[17:34] <gnomefreak> be back in a few
[18:53] <guntbert> installation from alternate daily fails during getting software: libmono depends on mono-runtime (<2.4.4) but 2.3.6 is to be installed - against what package do I report that bug?
[18:57] <gnomefreak> guntbert: mono-runtime
[18:58] <gnomefreak> guntbert: ubuntu-bug mono-runtime
[18:59] <guntbert> gnomefreak: thx - but why against mono-runtime and not against libmono? (I want some education here :-))
[18:59] <gnomefreak> guntbert: it is the package not the lib
[19:00] <guntbert> gnomefreak: ok, thx
[19:18] <guntbert> gnomefreak: it was mono, not mono-runtime :-) #601437
[19:19] <gnomefreak> guntbert: that is why ubuntu-bug package will help you with it
[19:20] <gnomefreak> guntbert: mono is a big mess of packages/libs
[19:20] <guntbert> gnomefreak: yeah, but it isn't available in the installation system :-)
[19:20] <gnomefreak> guntbert: never said it was but it should be in the desktop installer
[19:21] <guntbert> gnomefreak: no problem -- you pointed me in the right direction - the rest I go myself :-)
[20:17] <penguin42> hmm the benchmark on disk util for a virtual disk is funny; it varies between 21MB/s and 2.6GB/s - and gives an average of 91MB/s
[21:10] <BluesKaj> appears the medibuntu repos won't install in the package manager, looking for a ppa for the sources.list , but launchpad doesn't seem to have one.
[21:40] <guntbert> BluesKaj: I looked, but medibuntu seems to have no maverick repo yet
[21:43] <BluesKaj> ok guntbert , it confirms my searches , thanks for checking
[21:43] <guntbert> BluesKaj: :)
[21:45] <BluesKaj> where do i find desktop effects settings in ubuntu ?, I'm trying gnome out again after many yrs
[21:47] <penguin42> BluesKaj: system->preferences->appareance->visual effects
[21:47] <BluesKaj> i found some visual effects in system preferences/appearance
[21:48] <penguin42> BluesKaj: there is compizconfig-settings-manager and I think simple-ccsm as well; one of those should let you tweak everything
[21:48] <BluesKaj> oh gotta install csm again, ok
[21:50]  * penguin42 doesn't use compiz myself
[21:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, not a compiz fan, but do like the effects kde4 can provic=de
[21:52] <BluesKaj> I'm impressed with ubuntu LAN networking so far tho , which is important in our setup
[21:53] <penguin42> in what sense?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> we have ubuntu-server running in the TV room, which Ive loaded up with movies from wife's windows pc
[21:56] <BluesKaj> not finished with the sever setup yet but the media options are working fine , now i just have figure how t give the family remote access ..they use windows and mac
[22:01] <kim0> Can I get nouveau dri experimental acceleration in 10.10 ?
[22:10] <DanaG> argh, stupid Unity.
[22:10] <DanaG> The thing only lets me launch a grand total of 9 applications:
[22:11] <DanaG> Firefox, Evolution (which I don't use), Cheese, Empathy (don't use), File Manager, Help, App Center, Rhythmbox (don't use), and gnome-terminal.
[22:11] <DanaG> There's literally no way to launch anything else.
[22:12] <DanaG> There's a search box that does nothing, and contains unchangeable contents "Search"\
[22:14] <penguin42> DanaG: Sheesh, you've got a terminal what else do you want
[22:15] <kim0> hehe .. it's alpha .. don't complain :D
[22:15] <DanaG> Still, it seems mine is more broken than anyone else's is.
[22:16] <DanaG> I've seen screenshots of it showing lists of applications, I think -- but there's not any such thing for me.
[22:17] <kim0> on meerkat, X suddenly seems slower to me today (nouveau)
[22:18] <DanaG> Argh, can't type in search box.
[22:21] <DanaG> oh, updated unity, finally now it actually gives me ICONS!
[22:21] <DanaG> Imagine that!
[22:21] <DanaG> SEarching still doesn't work, though.
[22:21] <penguin42> somepeople want everything
[22:22] <DanaG> Well, I'd wanted at least more than NOTHING, which was what I had before.
[22:22] <DanaG> I had a search box that did nothing, and no way to launch any app not on the left sidebar.
[22:29] <DanaG> Now, I have a list of SOME applications, but still a search box that does nothing.


[00:25] <russell--> Gibby: i think so, i manually added a fake channel for S-video
[00:26] <russell--> now i just need to find the s-video/composite dongle so i can test it!
[00:26] <russell--> no one seems to stock the things anymore
[00:26] <Gibby> dongle? there is 1 built on it
[00:26] <russell--> not this one
[00:27] <russell--> at least not on the outide
[00:27] <russell--> (wintv-hvr-1600)
[00:28] <russell--> also will need another dual rca to mini-stereo adapter for audio line-in
[00:28] <russell--> wires--
[00:29] <Gibby> http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1600.html
[00:29] <Zinn> [www.hauppauge.com] WinTV-HVR-1600 Product overview
[00:29] <Gibby> yes there is
[00:29] <russell--> it has s-video in connector
[00:29] <russell--> i don't have an s-video source!
[00:29] <russell--> i have a composite source
[00:30] <Gibby> ahhhhh
[00:30] <Gibby> i have 1, will be getting rid of it in 2 weeks
[00:30] <russell--> i did manage to dig up an s-video/s-video cable
[00:31] <russell--> the particularly annoying thing is that the box with the hvr-1600 came with what i'm looking for, but ... i can't find it 2 years later
[00:31] <russell--> so, probably somewhere in the house
[00:32] <russell--> but drifted under 2 years of alluvia
[00:34] <Gibby> i hate when that happens
[00:35] <russell--> it has one positive effect, i get to review my holdings of various crap as i look for it.
[00:36] <russell--> do i really want to give my s-video input a "channel"?
[00:36] <russell--> otherwise, how do i "tune" it in "watch tv"
[00:36] <russell--> ?
[00:37] <russell--> i notice now that i can't seem to change channels off of it
[00:37] <russell--> (i said it was channel 3, now i am stuck on channel 3)
[00:38] <russell--> this is reinforcing my underlying assumption, that tee vee is a gigantic waste of time! ;-)
[00:42] <Gibby> thought you said you had this working prior to 10.10
[00:44] <russell--> not that
[00:45] <russell--> just had a couple tee vee channels decoded
[00:45] <russell--> never had tried this s-video input thing before
[00:46] <russell--> something to do with channel groups, i think
[00:47] <Patrickdk> heh, I just pluged my adaptor into the a/v header to get a composite input :)
[00:49] <russell--> "adapter"?
[00:50] <russell--> what adapter?
[00:51] <Patrickdk> http://store.hauppauge.com/accessories2.asp?product=av_cable
[00:51] <Zinn> [store.hauppauge.com] Hauppauge Computer Works Online Store- Hardware
[00:51] <Patrickdk> one came with my pvr-350 :)
[00:52] <russell--> nice. would be tempting, but i'm using a mini-pc board with only one pci slot
[00:52] <Patrickdk> I'm really thinking I'm going have to get one of them, pcie -> 4x pci things, to keep my mythtv going :(
[00:52] <Patrickdk> the only useful tv cards are pci
[00:53] <Patrickdk> I'm using a full size tower
[00:53] <Patrickdk> it's really a full blown server
[00:54] <russell--> so, like, how are you *supposed* to configure "channels" for s-video (and the like) inputs?
[00:54] <russell--> mr google pretends not to know
[00:54] <Patrickdk> I just go into channel editor and make my own
[00:54] <Patrickdk> that was back in mythtv 0.15 though
[00:54] <Patrickdk> I haven't attempted it since them
[00:54] <Patrickdk> then
[00:55] <russell--> is that in mythtv-setup or the setup within mythfrontend?
[00:55] <Patrickdk> the backend setup
[00:55] <russell--> (too many effing "setups"!!!   HATE!)
[00:55] <russell--> okay
[00:55] <Gibby> Schedules Direct
[00:57] <Patrickdk> http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?405913_g10e
[00:57] <Zinn> [www.nextwarehouse.com] STARTECH (PEX2PCI4) Product Page -- NextWarehouse.com
[00:58] <russell--> $377 ... ouch
[00:58] <Patrickdk> ya, but I will have pci slots in a no pci slot motherboard
[00:58] <Patrickdk> been looking at a nice 5 pcie16 slot motherboard with a x4 and x1 pcie slots
[00:59] <russell--> Gibby: what about "schedules direct"?
[00:59] <Patrickdk> 4 pvr-2250 cards would only use about 180mbit out of the 2000mbit available on a pciex1 slot, so it would be fine
[00:59] <russell--> Patrickdk: yeah, i suppose before all you had was money, now you have a thingie!
[00:59] <Gibby> that is what i use to fill my guide data since i have my directv hooked up to my hvr-1600
[01:00] <Patrickdk> gibby, what if you just want like a, vcr channel :)
[01:00] <Patrickdk> to use it without source like that
[01:00] <Patrickdk> personally, I always use it for a webcam channel, to watch the baby crib
[01:00] <Gibby> then it is just an input
[01:00] <Gibby> i just use mythzoneminder to watch my camera's
[01:01] <Patrickdk> well, I did say this was back in mythtv 0.15 :)
[01:03] <russell--> Gibby "just an input" gets translated to a channel list how?
[01:03] <russell--> in other words, like, how do i select that input from the frontend?
[01:04] <Gibby> nooo, if it is not providing channels just a single input, you just use the change input function on the frontend
[01:04] <russell--> where is the "change input" on the frontend?
[01:04]  * russell-- doesn't see it
[01:05] <Gibby> press "M" then go to source
[01:05] <Gibby> it might be input or video also
[01:05] <Gibby> but under M
[01:05] <Gibby> you could just look up the key for it
[01:06]  * russell-- still backing out the the mythtv-setup ...
[01:07] <russell--> what do i put in "input connections" for the video sources
[01:08] <Gibby> in the backend setup?
[01:08] <russell--> yeah
[01:08] <Gibby> well what are you configuring?
[01:08] <russell--> the analog s-video 1
[01:08] <Gibby> so follow the link i posted earlier
[01:09] <russell--> that is giving me stuff for the analog tuner
[01:09] <russell--> i don't have a signal source for a tuner
[01:09] <russell--> (like no cable tv)
[01:09] <Gibby> what do you have hooked up to your tuner then?
[01:10] <russell--> digital over the air tv on the digital side, s-video on the analog side
[01:10] <russell--> so, in capture cards, i have two
[01:10] <Gibby> ok, so you follow the link i posted earlier for the ATSC then right?
[01:11] <russell--> yes
[01:11] <Gibby> then what are you asking?
[01:12] <russell--> i have two capture cars set up, MPEG (/dev/video0) and DVB (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)
[01:12] <Gibby> correct
[01:12] <russell--> i set up dvb, that works
[01:12] <Gibby> for s-video you select composite 1
[01:12] <russell--> for the mpeg, there are multiple inputs
[01:13] <russell--> i picked "S-Video 1"
[01:13] <Gibby> hold on let me check my backend
[01:14] <russell--> there is also, Composite 1, S-Video 2 and Composite 2 and Tuner 1
[01:14] <russell--> S-Video seemed like the most likely choice
[01:14] <Gibby> yes, it is S-Video 1
[01:15] <Gibby> what do you have plugged in to the svideo in?
[01:15] <russell--> okay, then in Video Sources, I have a "Digital" and an "Analog"
[01:15] <russell--> nothing at the moment, but i want to plug in stuff like an external DVD player, a VHS player, a game, etc
[01:16] <russell--> via a composite-to-s-video adapter which i don't have in my hand at the moment
[01:17] <Gibby> Video Sources is what is used to populate your guide data.... if you aren't using something like schedules direct... delete them
[01:17] <russell--> okay
[01:17] <russell--> (that isn't obvious, btw)
[01:18] <russell--> what about "Input connections"?
[01:18] <Gibby> wait
[01:19] <Gibby> Now setup a video source and call it, i guess you could use digital, but that name is used other places I would call it antenna, thenset the listings grabber as EIT
[01:19] <russell--> okay
[01:20] <russell--> is there supposed to be a long (20-30 seconds) delay when i pick "new source" or whatever?
[01:20] <russell--> A
[01:20] <Gibby> no
[01:20] <russell--> oops
[01:20] <Gibby> no your guide data will be update for your OTA channels
[01:20] <Gibby> now*
[01:21] <russell--> channel frequency table: default?
[01:21] <Gibby> uhhh sure
[01:21] <russell--> okay, i have a "antenna" video source
[01:22] <Gibby> now go to input connections and then DVBInput
[01:22] <Gibby> In display name put antenna and for video source select antenna
[01:22] <Gibby> i keep quick tuning at never, then scan for channels
[01:23] <russell--> okay, scanning
[01:23] <Gibby> then when that is done, do fetch channels from listings source
[01:26] <russell--> okay
[01:27] <russell--> anything for the s-video?
[01:27] <Gibby> Ok,missed a step sorry
[01:27] <Gibby> yes go back to video source
[01:27] <Gibby> Name it like like S-Video
[01:27] <russell--> another new video source?
[01:27] <Gibby> for lists grabber chose no grabber
[01:28] <russell--> okay
[01:29] <Gibby> then go to input connections, s-video1, put the name in and for video source select the name you just gave the new video source
[01:29] <russell--> done
[01:29] <Gibby> then you are done
[01:30] <russell--> it is asking a bunch of channel questions, ignore those?
[01:30] <Gibby> yes
[01:30] <russell--> k
[01:30] <russell--> input priority?
[01:30] <Gibby> defaults
[01:30] <russell--> k
[01:31] <russell--> okay so, leave the setup?
[01:31] <Gibby> yep all done
[01:32] <russell--> i get a warning about s-video 1 "is set to start on channel Please add, which does not exist."
[01:32] <Gibby> ignore it
[01:32] <russell--> k
[01:33] <russell--> starting front end
[01:33] <russell--> "watch tv"?
[01:33] <Gibby> yep
[01:33] <russell--> lol
[01:33] <russell--> returns
[01:33] <Gibby> huh?
[01:34] <russell--> i get a "please wait" and then it comes back to the front end top menu
[01:34] <Gibby> did it find channels when you scanned?
[01:34] <russell--> where would i look for them
[01:34] <russell--> ?
[01:35] <Gibby> when you did the scan
[01:35] <russell--> yes
[01:35] <russell--> 24
[01:35] <russell--> of them
[01:35] <Gibby> and you ran the mythfilldatabase when you exited right?
[01:35] <russell--> yeah
[01:36] <Gibby> go back to your backend and delete the s-video stuff, it might not like it since there is no video
[01:36] <russell--> the last time i ran "watch tv" it was stuck on a "channel 3" that doesn't really exist
[01:37] <russell--> okay
[01:37] <tgm4883> "is set to start on channel Please add, which does not exist." is usually an error you don't want to ignore
[01:38] <russell--> i'd be happy to not ignore it if i knew wtf i should do about it
[01:39] <russell--> is there any way to delete just one of the entries?  the options seem to be "delete all cards" etcs
[01:39] <Gibby> D
[01:40] <russell--> sweet
[01:41] <russell--> should i delete the "capture card?" or just the video source?
[01:41] <Gibby> video source, then blank out the input
[01:41] <russell--> the input seems to have been snuffed
[01:42] <russell--> okay, back to frontend
[01:42] <russell--> okay, that works again
[01:42] <Gibby> you got your TV channels?
[01:42] <russell--> yes
[01:43] <russell--> so, now what about the s-video?
[01:44] <Gibby> you have to have something plugged in
[01:44] <russell--> hmm.
[01:44] <russell--> okay, back to the basement!
[01:45] <russell--> but, what *would* i do if i had something plugged in?
[01:45] <Gibby> what we just did before
[01:45] <russell--> oh, well
[01:46] <russell--> i have a game that is plugged in through a switch box thingie, when i scanned "channels" it thought it had a signal on all the channels, so maybe it is getting a signal from the game.
[01:46] <Gibby> thingie lol
[01:46] <russell--> composite into the switch box, s-video out of the switchbox to the card
[01:47] <Gibby> you don't scan s-video
[01:47] <russell--> i have no idea what is inside the switch box
[01:47] <russell--> yeah, but i mean to say that it thought it saw a signal on all 12000 channels it scanned
[01:47] <russell--> so there might be a signal there
[01:47] <Gibby> no you don't scan it lol
[01:49] <russell--> let's pretend there is a signal
[01:52] <Gibby> ok, then we jsut do the above
[01:52] <russell--> gah, now i can't change channels!
[01:53] <Gibby> what happens when you change channels?
[01:53] <russell--> oh yes i can
[01:53] <russell--> i just don't get on screen stuff
[01:53] <russell--> video craziness
[01:54] <russell--> i can exit, but i just get a blue screen with remnants of the tv display
[01:55] <Gibby> huh
[01:55] <russell--> lol, i can start the setup blind, but the display is frozen
[01:57] <Gibby> wtf again
[01:57]  * russell-- is just a dumb user
[01:57] <russell--> any idea how to restart X on this thing?
[01:58] <russell--> i can start a second X server
[01:58] <russell--> by dropping to a console and startx -- :1
[02:00] <tgm4883> restart gdm
[02:01] <russell--> workie
[02:02] <russell--> okay, Gibby, what part of "do the above"?
[02:02] <russell--> oh, set up the source etc
[02:02] <russell--> okay
[02:05] <russell--> okay, i am looking at live tv
[02:07] <russell--> now, how to switch to the s-video source?
[02:09] <Gibby> press M
[02:10] <russell--> okay, that gives me a menu
[02:10] <russell--> source?
[02:11] <Gibby> i don't know, it changed in 0.24 and i don't use it right now lol
[02:11] <russell--> okay
[02:11] <russell--> well the screen went black!
[02:12] <Gibby> did you hook something up?
[02:12] <russell--> just the maybe-thing i mentioned before
[02:12] <russell--> maybe it's not putting out a signal
[02:12] <russell--> i'm not getting a menu to go back though
[02:13] <Gibby> <<<<drunk.... explain a little more
[02:15] <russell--> i restarted gdm again
[02:16] <Gibby> yo ucould jsut kill myth instead
[02:16] <russell--> there are two options, switch input and swith source
[02:16] <Gibby> try either
[02:16] <russell--> lol, screen messed up again
[02:17] <russell--> i'm using intel video btw
[02:17] <russell--> on the mb
[02:17] <Gibby> what video profile are you using?
[02:17] <russell--> i don't know what "video profile" means
[02:18] <Gibby> frontend setup
[02:18] <russell--> appearance?  theme chooser?
[02:19] <Gibby> i'll check in 2min
[02:20] <Gibby> setup/tv settings/playback
[02:20] <Gibby> screen 3
[02:22] <russell--> current video playback: CPU+
[02:25] <russell--> trying normal now
[02:26] <russell--> a little stuttery
[02:29] <russell--> back to cpu+ now
[02:33] <Gibby> and what is the video card?
[02:34] <russell--> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[02:34] <Gibby> try slim
[02:34] <russell--> okay
[02:48] <russell--> slim gives me smoother video, but choppy audio.  cpu+ seems to give me smooth audio but green flickers in the video. load avg 2+change
[03:02] <russell--> more video problems with cpu-- as well
[03:12] <Gibby> hmmmmmm it should effect audio
[03:13] <Gibby> are you using a backend/frontend combined?
[03:54] <russell--> it's okay, i've given up for now
[03:55] <russell--> i think the board is maybe underpowered for the task
[03:56] <russell--> Gibby, i appreciate your patient efforts to help me
[03:56] <Gibby> yep np,
[03:57] <Shadow__X> whats the cpu? if you dont mind me asking
[03:57] <Shadow__X> i arrived late
[03:58] <russell--> an atom 330 dual core thingie (if that's the right number)
[03:58] <russell--> it was like $100 for the motherboard and cpu a couple years ago
[03:58] <Shadow__X> yeah
[03:58] <Shadow__X> are you trying to watch hd on that without gpu accel?
[03:59] <russell--> all i know is i installed mythbuntu and carnage ensued.  i tweaked minimally
[04:00] <Shadow__X> well you should be able to run a backend or a frontend on it but, its not recommended because it is underpowered
[04:00] <russell--> what is recommended?
[04:00] <Shadow__X> but since you own it already you could watch hd on it if you got a vdpau compatible video card
[04:00] <russell--> i only have one pci slot
[04:00] <russell--> and the tuner card is in it
[04:01] <Shadow__X> a real processor maybe like a core i3 or equivalent but, it depends more on what you plan to do with the system
[04:01] <Shadow__X> whats the motherboard
[04:01] <russell--> D945GCLF2
[04:01] <russell--> intel
[04:01] <russell--> dual core 1.6GHz
[04:01] <russell--> cpu
[04:02] <Shadow__X> are you trying to use that as a frontend or a backend? it sounds like you are trying to use that as a backend
[04:02] <russell--> it is small and quiet
[04:02] <russell--> both ends
[04:02] <Shadow__X> if so, although it can run it will be slow and at that point might be a bit frustraiting
[04:03] <Shadow__X> also if you plan to watch HD content you need much more of a cpu
[04:03] <russell--> just watching over-the-air teevee
[04:03] <Shadow__X> the only way an atom system can watch HD content as of right now is by offloading, so by a nvidia gpu that supports vdpau or with a broadcomm crystal hd that does offloading
[04:04] <Shadow__X> russell--: right but OTA should have HD content as well
[04:04] <russell--> yeah
[04:04] <russell--> some are
[04:04] <Shadow__X> yeah
[04:05] <russell--> mostly teevee sucks though, so ...
[04:05] <russell--> the only thing that got me started on this was that our digital converter box died
[04:05] <russell--> (i had the box built from before but was unmotivated to finish it)
[04:06] <russell--> (by the lack of compelling programming)
[04:07] <Shadow__X> ok
[04:07] <russell--> i think we'll probably run our old teevee and this next (free to us) converter box into the ground and then pop for a digital teevee then (maybe in a few years)
[04:10] <russell--> i think we went a good month since the last time we turned to tuner on.
[04:10] <russell--> anyhoo.  thanks again!
[04:10]  * russell-- goes
[08:05] <miststlkr> hello all.   I have a .23 frontend running with multiple monitors.  the menus work as I'd like, only taking up one monitor, but when I watch a video it spans across them.  is there a way to fix this?
[08:05] <miststlkr> come to think of it, running mythfrontend in a window would be preferable at times
[11:40] <qwebirc96237> arrgh! HVR1800 now broken..kernel or myth fault?
[11:40] <qwebirc96237> ubuntu 10.10
[11:41] <qwebirc96237> myth 23.1 and .24
[11:41] <qwebirc96237> 2.6.35-23-generic
[11:42] <qwebirc96237> works fine on ubuntu 10.04 tho
[11:44] <qwebirc96237> brb...breakfast time
[12:27] <qwebirc96237> eureca! .24 works with previous kernel...gtg, bbl
[13:01] <Nasha> Hello all. I have an issue where my MCE Remote (RC 6) is all of a sudden giving me 2x button presses for all arrow keys, since adding the same hardware and config files to a new frontend. I've tried altering repeat and delay settings in lircrc, to no avail. Any suggestions on how else to rectify this?
[13:12] <Nasha> Anyone?
[15:08] <superm1> Nasha, did you modify the lirc init script or anything like that?
[15:09] <superm1> that could mean that the kernel handling for lirc button presses and lirc daemon are both catching it
[15:09] <superm1> and there are some lines in the lirc init script that turn off the kernel handling (until it's fully ready for prime time)
[15:17] <Nasha> superm, corrcet
[15:17] <Nasha> Just caught onto that problem about 10minutes ago, and disabled the kernel drivers
[15:22] <superm1> Nasha, okay cool, glad that's all it was
[15:22] <superm1> if you do want to use the kernel drivers and find a good way to get all mce buttons working consistently and easily configured from them, i think that's where we want to be eventually
[15:22] <superm1> so feel free to explore
[15:24] <Nasha> Will do, biggest issue was getting back to normal. Now that i know the cause, i can play around. But i wasnt aware of the changes previously
[15:25] <Nasha> Just a quick question, should adding blacklist ir_core to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf be all thats needed to stop the driver from loading?
[15:25] <Nasha> Because after a reboot, its still being loaded
[15:26] <superm1> that will likely cause some worse problems
[15:26] <superm1> i would recommend sticking to the way the lirc init script turned it off
[15:26] <Nasha> I see... Well it didn't work anyway :P
[15:26] <superm1> it's not a matter of stopping the driver from loading, it's actually disabling a portion of the driver's support
[15:26] <Nasha> What is that way? I wasnt aware of such
[15:27] <superm1> do you still have a copy of the original lirc init script before you modified it?
[15:27] <Nasha> This line was obviously missing from my installation, because ive had this issue since day one
[15:28] <Nasha> I guess not, i copied my conf files over from my previous machine
[15:28] <superm1> oh
[15:29] <superm1> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-dev/lirc/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/lirc.init.d
[15:29] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu-dev/lirc/ubuntu : contents of debian/lirc.init.d at revision 150
[15:29] <superm1> you'll want to merge your current script with that one using something like meld
[15:29] <Nasha> Ok, thats all new to me, but im sure i can figure it out :)
[15:31] <Nasha> Can i be a n00b and ask what script im merging it with?
[15:32] <superm1> sure
[15:32] <superm1> /etc/init.d/lirc
[15:33] <Nasha> Ok just making sure :)
[15:34] <superm1> in the future just make sure you're careful when copying back old conffiles from an old install when jumping to a new version.  unless you've read all the changelogs, there could be dozens of little things like this that you'll miss otherwise
[15:36] <Nasha> Well i didnt touch the init script, so im not sure whats gone wrong there
[15:43] <Nasha> Ok, meld says files are identical...
[15:51] <Nasha> Any ideas superm1 ?
[15:51] <superm1> hum
[15:52] <superm1> /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf can you pastebin them?
[15:52] <Nasha> sure
[15:54] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535234/
[15:54] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[15:55] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535235/
[15:55] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[16:05] <Nasha> what do u think superm1
[16:06] <superm1> everything there looks sane
[16:06] <superm1> hm
[16:06] <superm1> okay so last thought: ~/.lircrc, ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[16:06] <superm1> are buttons mentioned twice in ~/.mythtv/lircrc maybe?
[16:07] <Nasha> I dont think so... As i said, my rc files are the same as my existing system
[16:08] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535243/
[16:08] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[16:10] <superm1> yeah that looks correct too
[16:10] <superm1> i'm at a loss then
[16:11] <Nasha> Oh no! Im talking with Jarod wilson hoping he can shed some light on the matter
[16:15] <Nasha> Ok, problem solved
[16:16] <Nasha> Seems the init script isnt doing its job
[16:16] <Nasha> echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols as superuser solved the problem
[16:18] <superm1> how can the init script not be doing that?
[16:19] <superm1> i'm sure that it works properly on both of my boxes
[16:19] <superm1> i wonder if it's actually a race condition?
[16:19] <Nasha> Well thats what i, you and himself are puzzled over
[16:19] <superm1> if you freshly reboot, is it still busted?
[16:19] <Nasha> Will test that out now
[16:21] <Nasha> Yes, still busted
[16:22] <Nasha> nasha@Ion-Frontend:~$ cat /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols
[16:22] <Nasha> [rc-5] nec [rc-6] jvc sony [lirc]
[16:23] <Nasha> add the echo command to rc.local or something?
[16:27] <yggdrasil> yo in anyone in here ?
[16:29] <Gibby> probably not
[16:31] <rhpot1991> !ask yggdrasil
[16:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ask yggdrasil
[16:31] <rhpot1991> !ask | yggdrasil
[16:31] <Zinn> yggdrasil: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[16:36] <yggdrasil> yo
[16:36] <yggdrasil> k
[16:37] <yggdrasil> so i have mythbutnu 64 bit version, and ive got a twinhan remote control. the problem is that there is something with any kernel higher than 2.6.31 that make my remote control not work. like a driver issue
[16:38] <yggdrasil> so anyway it works great if i get on a 2.6.31 kernel. is there any way i can run that kernel on 64bit myth ?
[16:40] <yggdrasil> or figure out where the hell the src is and make a kernel module that works .
[16:40] <Zinn> yggdrasil: Please watch your language.
[16:42] <patdk-wk> what kernel are you using that is *broken*?
[16:43] <yggdrasil> its up there .. i cant get to the box atm but its like <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:43] <yggdrasil> if i remember.
[16:44] <patdk-wk> then that is your issue
[16:44] <yggdrasil> im wondering if the 32 bit myth, is running like my regular lucid system, i  had te 2.6.32 kernel still installed and ran it ,
[16:44] <patdk-wk> I think >2.6.33 it is
[16:44] <yggdrasil> thats what the myth installer loaded
[16:44] <patdk-wk> has new security stuff in the kernel, and it screws many things
[16:44] <patdk-wk> only cause you installed 10.10 then
[16:44] <yggdrasil> hmm
[16:44] <patdk-wk> cause 10.04 doesn't have that
[16:44] <yggdrasil> what kernel does 10.4 have ?
[16:45] <patdk-wk> just install an older kernel manually, and tell grub to boot it
[16:45] <patdk-wk> 2.6.32
[16:45] <yggdrasil> oh really
[16:45] <yggdrasil> well i dl'd a new iso for 32bit myth
[16:45] <yggdrasil> let me see wich version i got
[16:45] <patdk-wk> you have the same issue on 32bit, using 10.10 I bet :)
[16:45] <yggdrasil> yea its 10.10
[16:46] <yggdrasil> well so i check apt-cache for an older kernel and there wasnt one.
[16:46] <patdk-wk> ya, you have to do it more manually
[16:46] <yggdrasil> right
[16:46] <patdk-wk> or load in the lucid apt sources and install it that way
[16:46] <yggdrasil> k wwell ill jsut get 10.4
[16:46] <patdk-wk> more than I want to go over :)
[16:46] <yggdrasil> yea i thought of that but i didnt think it would work out better in the end.
[16:46] <yggdrasil> but ill jsut reload it, its a fresh install anyway
[16:47] <yggdrasil> as long as i end up on 2.6.22 .
[16:47] <yggdrasil> on my lucid box its 2.6.23 and that driver is messed up.
[16:47] <yggdrasil> once i drop it back to 22 its fine, jsut a stupid remote control but its the only one i have
[16:47] <patdk-wk> well, I just upgraded sat night, and it's 2.6.32-25
[16:48] <yggdrasil> to what ver?
[16:48] <yggdrasil> 4 ?
[16:48] <patdk-wk> that is 10.04
[16:48] <yggdrasil> cool
[16:48] <yggdrasil> yea i was actually even thining of pulling down the 9.04 ?
[16:48] <patdk-wk> 10.04 is lts, so supported for 3-5 years
[16:48] <yggdrasil> i think isaw.
[16:48] <yggdrasil> ok thats great.
[16:48] <yggdrasil> im even thinking of scrapping the whole 64 bit version
[16:48] <patdk-wk> ya, the kernel change was in 2.6.33/34 so you sohuld be fine
[16:49] <patdk-wk> I would say 64bit, but that is me :)
[16:49] <patdk-wk> all my stuff is 64
[16:49] <yggdrasil> oh really, see ive always been sh of it.
[16:49] <rhpot1991> yggdrasil: http://wilsonet.com/?page_id=95
[16:49] <Zinn> [wilsonet.com] Jarod's Junk Collection » Linux 2.6.35+ Remote Control Overview
[16:49] <rhpot1991> read that
[16:49] <yggdrasil> and i dont think i see that much of a increase.
[16:49] <yggdrasil> ill take a look.
[16:49] <patdk-wk> I'll read that sometime too
[16:49] <patdk-wk> but I don't use ir
[16:49] <Nasha> It was my IR problem :)
[16:50] <patdk-wk> I'm using ps3 bluetooth remotes :)
[16:51] <rhpot1991> yggdrasil: you could run 10.04 and enable autobuilds for updates and just stick with that if you wanted an older kernel
[16:51] <patdk-wk> ya, that is what I was getting at, as I know that works
[16:52] <patdk-wk> and don't know the hacks for the new kernel
[16:52] <rhpot1991> patdk-wk: read that link
[16:52] <rhpot1991> and you can try to see if your remote works as an inputdevice now too
[16:52] <patdk-wk> I will, but flashing firmware on a few remote systems, and on a phone call with hp at the moment :)
[16:53] <patdk-wk> my ps3 works as an input device in lucid, has for awhile :)
[16:53] <patdk-wk> without input device support, I wouldn't be using the ps3 remote
[16:53] <yggdrasil> rhpot1991: ok thats fine,
[16:53] <yggdrasil> this doesnt even need to be so cutting edge so to speak, it is my system for my van
[16:53] <yggdrasil> but it really sucks with no remote, and i want to eventually stick it to the cieling.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> but cookthanks for the help.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> ill jsut roll out on 10.4 64 bit and i think i should have the kernel that works best.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> at least maybe in a year it will all just work how its supposed ot.
[16:54] <rhpot1991> I think I meant to say that at yggdrasil instead of patdk-wk
[16:55] <rhpot1991> my bad
[16:55] <patdk-wk> I thought so too :)
[16:55] <yggdrasil>  i mean according to this do, the changes hsouldnt have even hit until 2.6.36
[16:55] <yggdrasil> so why .33 got thes changes is confusing.
[16:55] <patdk-wk> well, I dunno what changes broke your issue
[16:55] <yggdrasil> already, there were i2c changes in 2.6.33 (iirc).
[16:55] <patdk-wk> I just saying, in 33 there was a new security system put in for drivers
[16:56] <patdk-wk> and it broke many things
[16:56] <yggdrasil> ahh i thought yo usaid 36
[16:56] <yggdrasil> anyway ok its moot.
[16:56] <yggdrasil> maybe by 40 they will have it fixed :)
[16:57] <yggdrasil> actaully im glad to see some progression on ir stuff
[16:58] <yggdrasil> been in the dark ages well for ages
[17:01] <yggdrasil> thanks guys
[17:01] <yggdrasil> ill let you know how it works out.
[22:23] <Seeker`> I'm getting 404 when trying to play back stuff in my video storage group using mythweb, any ideas?
[22:23] <Seeker`> "The requested URL /mythweb/data/video/Fight_Club.m4v was not found on this server."
[22:41] <dumbledore> hey all.. I installed mythbuntu 10.10 and am trying to get a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q to work with it. It works fine with tvtime, but when I use the MythTV frontend, and tell it "Watch TV", the screen goes blank. It says "Please Wait" but returns to the main menu after a few seconds. I tried googling, but none of the suggestions really help. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
[22:42] <tgm4883> dumbledore, probably need to post logs
[22:42] <tgm4883> !losg
[22:42] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about losg
[22:42] <tgm4883> !logs
[22:43] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[22:43] <dumbledore> Zinn. I have already posted the logs here..http://wordpress.pastebin.com/cKjenB2W (frontend log) and http://wordpress.pastebin.com/6Tj4vQce (backend log).. sorry I do not know how to use your pastebin
[22:43] <Zinn> Hi dumbledore, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[22:52] <superm1> dumbledore, you appear to have it misconfigured in your backend setup according to that backend log
[22:52] <dumbledore> tgm4883. I did post the logs on .http://wordpress.pastebin.com/cKjenB2W (frontend log) and http://wordpress.pastebin.com/6Tj4vQce (backend log)
[22:52] <superm1> "Not ivtv or pvrusb2 or hdpvr driver"
[22:53] <dumbledore> superm1. I have it configured as IVTV MPEG-2 capture card. What should I have it configured as?
[22:54] <superm1> i don't believe it's supported by the ivtv driverset
[22:54] <superm1> i thought only the digital side of it worked in linux last i heard
[22:54] <superm1> if the analog side is now functional, it is a framegrabber type device i think
[22:54] <dumbledore> yea. I am looking to get the digital side of it working.
[22:55] <superm1> digital side, just pick the regular digital tuner stuff
[22:55] <superm1> according to http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q actually analog support is there now too
[22:55] <Zinn> [linuxtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q - LinuxTVWiki
[22:56] <tgm4883> IIRC, digital side would be DVB
[22:57] <superm1> ui[
[22:57] <superm1> yup
[22:57] <dumbledore> superm1.  so should i select DVB DTv capture card option?
[22:57] <superm1> yeah
[22:58] <dumbledore> superm1. I will try it. I appreciate the help


[00:13] <Kazuto> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:14] <Kazuto> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:14] <Kazuto> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:14] <Kazuto> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:14] <Kazuto> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[00:26] <NyanCat19> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[00:26] <NyanCat19> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[00:26] <NyanCat19> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[00:27] <NyanCat19> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[00:27] <NyanCat19> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[01:05] <conno> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[01:05] <conno> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:05] <conno> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[01:05] <conno> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[01:05] <conno> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[01:05] <epic17> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[01:05] <epic17> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[01:05] <epic17> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[01:05] <epic17> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[01:05] <epic17> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[02:13] <qassim4> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:13] <qassim4> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[02:13] <qassim4> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[02:14] <qassim4> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[02:14] <qassim4> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[02:52] <Guest12157> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[02:52] <Guest12157> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[02:52] <Guest12157> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[02:52] <Guest12157> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[02:52] <Guest12157> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[03:32] <Peng_23> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[03:32] <Peng_23> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[03:32] <Peng_23> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[03:32] <Peng_23> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[03:32] <Peng_23> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[03:37] <hexa-9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[03:37] <hexa-9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[03:37] <hexa-9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[03:37] <hexa-9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:42] <NeddySeagoon3> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:42] <NeddySeagoon3> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:42] <NeddySeagoon3> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:42] <NeddySeagoon3> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:43] <NeddySeagoon3> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:48] <kameloso> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:48] <kameloso> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:48] <kameloso> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:48] <kameloso> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:48] <kameloso> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:18] <okdas> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:18] <okdas> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:18] <okdas> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:18] <okdas> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:19] <okdas> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:28] <Theking^29> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:28] <Theking^29> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:28] <Theking^29> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:28] <Theking^29> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:28] <Theking^29> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:36] <chek12> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:36] <chek12> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:37] <chek12> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:53] <modin25> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:54] <modin25> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:54] <modin25> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:54] <modin25> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:54] <modin25> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[07:00] <Slade1> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:00] <Slade1> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:00] <Slade1> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:00] <Slade1> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[07:00] <Slade1> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[07:17] <bathtub_shark9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:17] <bathtub_shark9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:17] <bathtub_shark9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:17] <bathtub_shark9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:33] <milky8> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:33] <milky8> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:33] <milky8> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:33] <milky8> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:33] <milky8> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[13:51] <mindjuju26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:51] <mindjuju26> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:51] <mindjuju26> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:51] <mindjuju26> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:51] <mindjuju26> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:50] <ynyounuo> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:50] <ynyounuo> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:50] <ynyounuo> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:50] <ynyounuo> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:50] <ynyounuo> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:02] <Chords28> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:02] <Chords28> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:02] <Chords28> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:02] <Chords28> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:02] <Chords28> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:08] <rasengan26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:08] <rasengan26> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:08] <rasengan26> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:08] <rasengan26> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:08] <rasengan26> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[17:06] <p3pp3rb0x> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[17:06] <p3pp3rb0x> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[17:07] <p3pp3rb0x> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[17:07] <p3pp3rb0x> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[17:07] <p3pp3rb0x> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[17:21] <MikeSpears29> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[17:21] <MikeSpears29> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[17:21] <MikeSpears29> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[17:21] <MikeSpears29> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[17:21] <MikeSpears29> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:02] <Dworf> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:02] <Dworf> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:02] <Dworf> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:02] <Dworf> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:02] <Dworf> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:17] <Loki3> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:17] <Loki3> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:17] <Loki3> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:17] <Loki3> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:18] <Loki3> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:12] <ghoti6> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:12] <ghoti6> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:12] <ghoti6> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:12] <ghoti6> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:12] <ghoti6> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[23:24] <Connecting> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[23:25] <Connecting> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[23:25] <Connecting> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[23:25] <Connecting> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[23:25] <Connecting> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/