[20:09] <abhijit> augustRush, have you tried vlc?
[20:10] <augustRush> yeah
[20:10] <IceD^> encrypted avi?! :)
[20:10] <IceD^> lol
[20:10] <darkzay> hello all.  Is there any kdenlive experts here?
[20:10] <IceD^> augustRush, again - mplayer + win32codecs will play it
[20:10] <IceD^> not sure if win32codecs are present in ubuntu
[20:10] <augustRush> Ok Iced
[20:11] <hhassey> I am having this problem bonobo-activation-server (xxxxxxx-11986): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5RSDoAibbB: Connection refused
[20:11] <augustRush> I will try
[20:11] <kotek> win64codecs are
[20:11] <hhassey> and then i am back to the login screen
[20:11] <IceD^> if not - go debain way - download them from mplayer site and unpack to /usr/smth (check docs)
[20:11] <augustRush> thank
[20:11] <hhassey> this problem seems to happen randomly
[20:11] <augustRush> thatks abhijit
[20:11] <abhijit> augustRush, welcome.
[20:11] <augustRush> thanks IceD
[20:11] <augustRush> where are you from
[20:11] <augustRush> abhijit
[20:11] <abhijit> augustRush, yes?
[20:12] <abhijit> augustRush, mumbai
[20:12] <mrman208> !gnumail
[20:12] <Stormsys> if trying to mount an SSD drive (which is formated ntfs clarified by sudo fdisk -l) fails, does this mean the ssd drive is malfunctioning?(it as already giving data read errors on load
[20:12] <augustRush> are you working somewhere?
[20:12] <abhijit> augustRush, come in pm
[20:12] <augustRush> how??
[20:12] <hhassey> any thoughts?
[20:12] <Monkey_Dust> n
[20:12] <Gnea> o
[20:13] <Amol> !webcam
[20:13] <abhijit> hello Amol sir
[20:15] <hhassey> I am having this problem bonobo-activation-server (xxxxxxx-11986): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5RSDoAibbB: Connection refused
[20:15] <hhassey> and next thing I know i am back in the login screen
[20:19] <Ascavasaion> How do I check how much RAM my graphics card has without rebooting?
[20:19] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  hold on I believe I have the command for that
[20:19] <Amol> abhijit, Hey!
[20:20] <abhijit> Amol, :)
[20:20] <Amol> Just wanted to say HI
[20:20] <Beta_> Hi
[20:20] <abhijit> yah
[20:20] <Linfert> Hello.
[20:22] <brenlae> hi :)
[20:23] <brenlae> anybody hear have to use vesa drivers because they have an intel i8xx chipset?
[20:23] <brenlae> i do
[20:23] <brenlae> at least i can still play dvd/music/movies :)
[20:23] <coz_> Ascavasaion,   I cant remember off hand ...you might install hardinfo   but there is definitly a command let me keep searching my notes
[20:23] <Ascavasaion> coz_: lspci -v
[20:23] <Beta_> I can't play DVDs in Ubuntu :/
[20:23] <brenlae> :(
[20:23] <Ascavasaion> coz_: thanks man.  I got it... lspci -v :)
[20:23] <Beta_> Totem doesn't let me v.v
[20:24] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  yeah but there is a command to seek out and report just the vram  not other info
[20:24] <Beta_> Oh, anyone know why YouTube doesn't work in Totem for me?
[20:24] <brenlae> Beta_: get vlc and then google on how to get libdvdcss2 :)
[20:24] <Ascavasaion> thanks buddy, night all.
[20:24] <coz_> Ascavasaion,  ok here it is     nvclock -i | grep 'Amount:' | sed -e 's/.*: //'    but you need to have nvclock installed
[20:25] <Beta_> brenlae: I can get VLC via apt-get, correct?
[20:25] <Beta_> Nevermind, got it.
[20:26] <abhijit> Beta_, yes you can. type sudo apt-get install vlc.
[20:26] <johjoh> hello... i have a Microdia VideoCAM Messenger based on sonixb driver and it's not working outta the box... could i get some help plz?
[20:26] <brenlae> Beta_: yes, - you need libdvdread4 first to get libdvdcss2 - then you run a simple command (google it) and it will fetch libdvdcss2 for you :)
[20:27] <coz_> Beta_,    actually you just need to run this command      sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[20:27] <brenlae> yep :D
[20:27] <johjoh> cheese recognizes it, but gives me a white screen... it is listed under /dev/video0...
[20:27] <brenlae> coz_: thanks, i forgot the command :P
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,  no problem  you might want to book mark the ubuntu restricted formats  url
[20:28] <brenlae> yeah :)
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:28] <coz_> brenlae,   it should be under  "DVD"  on the right list... then "dvd" again
[20:29] <brenlae> thanks
[20:29] <brenlae> :)
[20:29] <Beta_> Does anyone here know Python well?
[20:29] <coz_> brenlae,   no problem ...always comes in hand when you do support :)
[20:29] <ilovefairuz> Beta_: join #python ?
[20:29] <Beta_> If so, what is the most complex program you made?
[20:29] <Beta_> Oh! Sorry.
[20:30] <brenlae> coz_: :)
[20:30] <Hilikus> hey guys
[20:30] <ilovefairuz> !hi | Hilikus
[20:30] <brenlae> Beta_: python is fun, i'm just learning as well :D
[20:31] <Hilikus> thsi is a really noob question but i'm trapped in my vbox. there were a bunch of msgs about binding and unbinding the mouse and i read everything. the current key to unbind is right click, but i do right click and nothing happens
[20:31] <Hilikus> how do i unbind it
[20:31] <uRock> Hilikus, it is right Ctrl, not right click
[20:32] <Hilikus> uRock, damn
[20:32] <Hilikus> that was stupid
[20:32] <Hilikus> sorry about that
[20:32] <Hilikus> thanks uRock
[20:32] <uRock> no problem, we all make mistakes
[20:32]  * brenlae is going for a smoke break :p
[20:33] <uRock> yuck
[20:33] <Beta_> iWin?
[20:33] <uRock> uLose?
[20:33] <uRock> =)
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> !ot | brenlae, Beta_, uRock
[20:37] <ipc> Who knows WinFF
[20:37] <uRock> !WinFF
[20:37] <Beta_> Windows FireFox?
[20:37] <ipc> lol
[20:37] <ipc> Convertor
[20:37] <ipc> Movies
[20:37] <Beta_> D'awww, I was close.
[20:37] <ipc> I want to make the movie quality better for iphone
[20:37] <abhijit> !info winff | ipc
[20:38] <slow-motion> n8
[20:38] <ipc> there is no winff channel
[20:38] <ipc> why not lol
[20:38] <uRock> ipc, feel free to start one
[20:39] <abhijit> uRock, is that You?
[20:39] <uRock> yes
[20:39] <abhijit> uRock, why you changed your nick?
[20:40] <uRock> what was my other one?
[20:40]  * ipc goes to the winff forums
[20:40] <abhijit> uRock, hmm. sorry it is not you then.
[20:40] <xxx74> hello
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> !hi | xxx74
[20:41] <chendry> do any of you use NFS to share home directories?  Where in the filesystem do you mount them on your NFS client machines?  I was thinking about just mounting in /home, but that hides any local home directories... what's the convention here?
[20:41] <Wavesonics> I'm trying to get mdadm to send emails, what email program does it use to send?
[20:41] <uRock> !nfs
[20:41] <erUSUL> Wavesonics: sendmail or mail i guess
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> Wavesonics: man mail
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> ipc: tried handbrake?
[20:43] <uRock> abhijit, my old screename was running_rabbit07
[20:43] <ipc> Nope. is it a converter?
[20:43] <abhijit> uRock, ok.
[20:43] <brontosaurusrex> ipc: yes
[20:43] <ipc> Okay thanks, brb
[20:43] <abhijit> rww, ping
[20:44] <plunder> has anyone else had random usb disconnects in 10.04? having trouble solving this
[20:44] <henkpoley> on a PATA system, what would be the first partition in /dev ?
[20:44] <rww> abhijit: what
[20:44] <ilovefairuz> plunder: check cables/power source?
[20:44] <Wavesonics> mailutils: is that the package i need to setup a mail server? (sending)
[20:44] <abhijit> rww, when is next user day? after how much interval does user days organised?
[20:45] <kisplit> Hi, how can I figure out what driver my wireless card is using?
[20:45] <plunder> ilovefairuz: they seem to be ok, only started occuring when i fresh installed10.04
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> kisplit: lshw -C network
[20:46] <rww> abhijit: there've only been two so far, and they were six months apart, so presumably they happen once per cycle. I have no idea when the next one is.
[20:46] <kisplit> ilovefairuz: Thank you
[20:46] <abhijit> rww, ok. thanks. :)
[20:47] <plunder> ilovefairuz: i just found a libflashplayer.so error in my dmesg with the disconnect :O
[20:47] <ilovefairuz> plunder: pastebin but don't think they are related
[20:49] <plunder> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/wfMvz5mC
[20:51] <ilovefairuz> plunder: doesn't seem related (flashplayer crashes like a drunken sailor on my system) i think it could be a faulty mouse
[20:52] <pagan0ne> hey guys, hows it going... i need some help with a triple head setup on 10.04, i got all 3 working, correct resolutions, etc, but the wrong display is "primary" i want the center monitor to be the primary display (gdm login, top and bottom toolbars etc) however can not find the option where to set this... any ideas?
[20:52] <plunder> ilovefairuz: i messed up my system by fsck a mounted drive, do u think that could case the mouse to go?
[20:52] <plunder> ilovefairuz: *cause
[20:52] <pagan0ne> its using xinerama, no twinview (not an option) nvidia cards, with nvidia driver.
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> plunder: let's just say that's so very random
[20:53] <plunder> ilovefairuz: of what can happen?
[20:53] <ilovefairuz> plunder: yes
[20:53] <plunder> ilovefairuz: wonder what else i broke lol :/
[20:54] <plunder> ilovefairuz: ty for taking a look tho
[20:54] <pagan0ne> plunder,  you shouldnt be able to fry a mouse by fsck'ing a drive, that would just cause data corruption on the drive and would be solved by a reformat/install of the OS
[20:54] <plunder> pagan0ne: the mouse was fine before that happened, then i installed 10.04 and now the mouse drops reconnects randomly, not sure what to think
[20:54] <xxx74> hello
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> pagan0ne: not frying hardware but perhaps corrupting critical files
[20:54] <pagan0ne> plunder, is it a bluetooth mouse?
[20:55] <plunder> pagan0ne: would be such a coincidence if the mouse just happened to go while i was mid OS change, no its a wired USB
[20:55] <running_rabbit07> xxx74, if you have a question, then please ask it
[20:55] <pagan0ne> ilovefairuz, yes, but a reformat / reinstall should solve any system file issues
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> Hey guys, how can I fix this?
[20:55] <abhijit> this?
[20:55] <pagan0ne> LinuxGArReT, using THAT
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> plunder: did you fsck before or after the install ?
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python2.4-dbus
[20:55] <LinuxGArReT> I can't find that in the Package Manager
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> !enter | LinuxGArReT
[20:55] <plunder> pagan0ne,ilovefairuz: i did use 'Use entire disk' option, which I think formats everything and new kernel files, and I did the fsck before the installation of the fresh OS
[20:56] <LinuxGArReT> Yikes. Sorry
[20:56] <pagan0ne> plunder, than the fsck should not have caused your mouse issues
[20:56] <pagan0ne> sounds like its a driver issue
[20:56] <pagan0ne> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[20:56] <ilovefairuz> !details | LinuxGArReT
[20:57] <ilovefairuz> plunder: test with livecd or possibly another distro ?
[20:57] <running_rabbit07> LinuxGArReT, what are you trying to install that is having depenancy issues?
[20:57] <scott__> does Ubuntu have a better IRC client than xchat?
[20:57] <plunder> paganOne: just loads glx modules, not sure what im looking for there
[20:58] <Wavesonics> will mdadm send me emails when it scans and everything is fine? Or only when it breaks?
[20:58] <running_rabbit07> scott__, there is xchat-gnome or chatzilla
[20:58] <Oer> !info python
[20:58] <LinuxGArReT> Ok. I have a problem installing Cedega onto my Ubuntu Version 10.4. If I want to install the .deb package, it says that I need the Python2.4-dbus Package. I downloaded the Python2.4-dbus package from Ubuntu's website, and then it says Error: Breaks existing package 'python-dbus' conflict: python2.4-dbus ( )
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> scott__: a dozen or so, search software center
[20:58] <plunder> ilovefairuz: yea i guess ill try the mouse on a windows to see if the mouse is ok
[20:58] <pagan0ne> plunder, look for the line... "Identifier        "mouse0""
[20:59] <scott__> @running_rabbit @ilovefairuz   ok will check that out
[20:59] <plunder> paganOne: theres no line like that
[20:59] <suprengr> scott__: tried xchat-gnome &severely regretted it... wnt staright back to xchat
[20:59] <pagan0ne> plunder, eh 10.04 took a lot out of xorg.conf so i have no idea where thats set at now lol
[20:59] <suprengr> *went
[20:59] <running_rabbit07> no need for bashing other versions
[20:59] <plunder> paganOne: yeah 10.04 messed me all up, i dunno how to get in grub anymore :|
[21:00] <scott__> @supreng: thats what I am using now....seems pretty bland
[21:00] <jefinc> is ubuntu server just a barebone desktop edition?
[21:00] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: that is the wine thing, right?  Have you tried wine?
[21:00] <plunder> paganOne: i wanted to boot in to an older kernel to see if the problem persisted
[21:00] <ilovefairuz> !tab | plunder
[21:00] <pagan0ne> hey guys, hows it going... i need some help with a triple head setup on 10.04, i got all 3 working, correct resolutions, etc, but the wrong display is "primary" i want the center monitor to be the primary display (gdm login, top and bottom toolbars etc) however can not find the option where to set this... any ideas? im using xinerama on nvidia cards with nvidia drivers, twinview is not an option.
[21:00] <sarawara> what should i type to join the dutch ubuntu chat?
[21:00] <running_rabbit07> what is a triple head setup?
[21:00] <pagan0ne> running_rabbit07, 3 monitors
[21:00] <running_rabbit07> si
[21:01] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, Yes I have tried Wine. I can't install or Run My Steam Application through wine. My Friend told me that I have to install Cedega to fix that.
[21:01] <suprengr> scott__: which one, xchat or xchat-gnome is bland?
[21:01] <running_rabbit07> xchat
[21:01] <abhijit> bye all !
[21:01] <abhijit> :)
[21:01] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: that's odd.  You may need an updated Cedega.  Have you tried the appdb?
[21:01] <cyphase> is there a way to install ubuntu with the desktop installer without formatting the root filesystem?
[21:02] <running_rabbit07> cyphase, no
[21:02] <scott__> @suprengr   xchat-gnome
[21:02] <pagan0ne> i guess we dont have any xorg guru's in here lol
[21:02] <cyphase> running_rabbit07, how about the alternate installer?
[21:02] <running_rabbit07> not that I know of
[21:02] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, that is the thing. I do have the latest Cedega. And I have no clue what is appdb... What is that?
[21:02] <suprengr> scott__: for what it's worth - xgat-gnome is more pleasing on netbook edition but I found it too restrictive on a full screen
[21:02] <ChogyDan> !appdb | LinuxGArReT
[21:03] <sarawara> wat typ ik in dit venster om bij de nederlandse chat te komen?
[21:03] <scott__> @suprengr   I see. Wish we had something like mirc
[21:03] <suprengr> *xgat-gnom =xchat-gnome [sorry]
[21:04] <ilovefairuz> !nl | sarawara
[21:04] <plunder> ilovefairuz,pagan0ne: the mouse went bad somehow, :| ty fellas
[21:04] <sarawara> :) thanks
[21:04] <pagan0ne> plunder, good luck, i doubt it was caused by the fsck, but it is an odd issue
[21:04] <pagan0ne> plunder, try it on another system... windows, another linux distro etc, see if its the mouse of an issue in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:05] <plunder> pagan0ne: i did, i tried it on windows, the mouse is bad, keeps reconnecting
[21:05] <plunder> pagan0ne: new mouse time :p
[21:05] <pagan0ne> plunder, yeah that sounds like the usb controller interface is fried....
[21:06] <plunder> pagan0ne: as long as thats the one in the mouse im happy haha
[21:06] <pagan0ne> plunder, i doubt its in the computer, most likely its in the mouse if the mouse has issues with other systems as well
[21:06] <pagan0ne> lol
[21:07] <pagan0ne> plunder, and the computer is able to recognize other usb devices on the port(s) in question
[21:07] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, might be a stupid question. I've looked at the website, and it showed that Steam is supported... but it's not working for me... It growls something about a .dll file that cant be found... but I know it works since it works perfect on Windows
[21:07] <suprengr> scott__:  at the start of this [when he tought erroneously that I was knocking other s/w running_rabbit07 mentioned chatzilla - I've no experience with that one - why not try that if xc-gnomeisn't good for you
[21:07] <michiellus> for some reason when i run a .ica or .rdp file from my desktop and choose the program to open it with it doesnt remember the setting for the file type even while its marked
[21:07] <scott__> @suprengr  Yes I will take a look at that.
[21:08] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: sometimes that website has additional instructions, like where to get that dll
[21:08] <Wormfall> Hi All, I am having trouble with my installation of Ubuntu 10.04 on my toshiba a70.. can someone help me
[21:08] <io> !ask | Wormfall
[21:08] <Wormfall> Everytime I start my computer I get to the user select screen and my computer automatically hibernates..
[21:08] <pagan0ne> ok, well if i cant get xinerama help here, any ideas where? #nvidia is dead, and its not really a nvidia issue, #xorg wont let anyone talk.....
[21:08] <ChogyDan> LinuxGArReT: but you should ask in #winehq.  Steam is pretty popular, Im sure someone knows the issue
[21:09] <LinuxGArReT> ChogyDan, Thank you. Will try that now
[21:09] <Wormfall> When i click the lid button, it turns back on; however, there is now image on the screen.. really frustrating.. reinstalled three times
[21:09] <michiellus> for some reason when i run a .ica or .rdp file from my desktop and choose the program to open it with it doesnt remember the setting for the file type even while its marked i just did a fresh install
[21:10] <DocPlatypus> why would udisks-daemon suddenly want to eat up over a gig of virtual memory and 800+M resident?
[21:11] <Wormfall> I searched online and could not locate the exact problem, first time working with Unix
[21:11] <running_rabbit07> !ask | dev/null Why not just tell people to ask there question instead off attacking them with ubottu?
[21:12] <capon> can somebody help me? how do I burn an iso file to usb using ubuntu? thanks
[21:12] <pagan0ne> roflmao
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> running_rabbit07: this is not an attack
[21:12] <thune3> michiellus: i'm not 100% sure what you are asking, but you can right click on an icon, choose properties, tab open with, and select default or add program.
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> io: i think !details is a lot easier to understand
[21:13] <andyn> !unetbootin | capon
[21:13] <DocPlatypus>  1909 root      20   0 1029m 736m 1232 D    0 74.1   0:02.10 udisks-daemon      <--- I am not making this up. why would this happen and what's the first step in fixing it?
[21:13] <henkpoley> capon: you only "burn" to optical media. but.. try something with unetbootin, there ought to be GUI tools around that
[21:13] <running_rabbit07> capon, to mave an ISO to a thumb drive, just drg and drop it
[21:13] <azlon> i am creating a pxe server. do i have to have this ubuntu (PXE) machine be the DHCP host? can i somehow configure a standard SOHO router to forward PXE requests to this machine?
[21:13] <lol> hi
[21:13] <io> ilovefairuz: Then use it.
[21:13] <ilovefairuz> io: I actually do
[21:14] <Uhmm> hi all.
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> capon: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[21:14] <Uhmm> i have a problem about my 10.4 ubuntu , on my toshiba qosmio x505-q870
[21:14] <Wormfall> Has anyone ever encountered my problem?
[21:14] <Wormfall> Everytime I start my computer I get to the user select screen and my computer automatically hibernates..
[21:14] <Uhmm> i can not connect wireless network :/
[21:14] <henkpoley> DocPlatypus: Try here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=udisks-daemon (there are multiple with high CPU and crashes there)
[21:14] <ilovefairuz> !details | Uhmm, all one line
[21:14] <Uhmm> :)
[21:15] <running_rabbit07> azlon, the server does have to have DHPC, if you turn off DHCP in your router and allow the server to do it, then your scripts will run better
[21:15] <henkpoley> Wormfall: do you "start" from hibernation ?
[21:15] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:15] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: do you see a list of wireless networks when you right click the network icon? what happens when you click on a wireless network?
[21:15] <sigmab3ta> does anyone else's lucid install take forever to login after a reboot?
[21:16] <sigmab3ta> the boot itself is fine but the login takes like almost an extra minute and a half
[21:16] <DocPlatypus> henkpoley: what happens if I just "sudo kill -9 1909"? not like it is even responding to that, mind you
[21:16] <sigmab3ta> and i'm on a core 2 duo with 4GB ram so it's not that...
[21:16] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: do you see any other networks or no networks at all?
[21:16] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz no...sometimes.. other networks shown.. except mine.
[21:16] <Uhmm> no , just my wireless network.
[21:16] <running_rabbit07> Uhmm, is your router set to not broadcast the SSID?
[21:16] <Wormfall> henkpoley: No i start normally.. off of a fresh installation. It shouldn't start from hibernation. I can boot the demo off of the live cd but not through the installation file
[21:16] <Uhmm> i ll check 1 min.
[21:16] <running_rabbit07> aka hidden network?
[21:16] <azlon> running_rabbit07: ok, so when i disable DHCP on the SOHO router, i will make this machine the DHCP server. I still need the SOHO router for wifi. this will create a new network for all wifi devices, correct?
[21:17] <running_rabbit07> azlon, you will have to set the IPs on the wireless machines statically
[21:19] <Uhmm> running_rabbit07 it should be set by broadcast ssid?
[21:19] <azlon> running_rabbit07: hrmm... ok, so even if i tell the wifi router that this machine is the gateway, it wont dynamically assign the IP addresses? what i am getting at is that i don't care about statically assigning wired devices an IP address (already doing so right now), but i do want wifi devices to dynamically get IP addresses, any way to do this?
[21:20] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you able to install SSH from the console and login with another system to watch the dmesh during your desktop login ?
[21:20] <henkpoley> `dmesg` even
[21:20] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:21] <Wormfall> henkpoly: Nom this is my first time ever working with unix and I don't even know how I would go about doing what you suggested
[21:21] <romulobr> hi, i installed ubuntu 10.4 64 bit and i' m very happy with everything except for flash performance. Is there any way to make flash to run any better? would it perform better if i had made an 32 bit install? ubuntu page says I shouldn' t use 64 bit for a desktop, but I have 4GB of ram and i want to upgrade to 8GB very soon, a 32 bit system would work with that ammount of ram?
[21:21] <henkpoley> Wormfall: just checking :-P
[21:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no problem, I have a toshiba a70 that I am installing on and appearently its kind of hard to install ubuntu on them.. not to sure though.. frustrating none-the less.. any suggestions?\
[21:22] <rww> romulobr: in order: not really; no; ignore the download page, it's wrong; yes, 32-bit will install a PAE kernel if the regular one wouldn't address your RAM fully
[21:23] <henkpoley> Wormfall: is there a 'safe' desktop you can login to? usually Ubuntu goes into gnome, but you can chose another one before you log in.
[21:23] <st__> my system wants 232 MB of updates, is it normal?
[21:23] <rww> st__: yes
[21:23] <henkpoley> st__: yes
[21:23] <Wormfall> Henkpoley: I am running dual boot with windows xp
[21:23] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:23] <romulobr> thanks rww
[21:23] <jessica56> hi all.. new to linux, wondering... if there is a way to create a bootable usb, within ubuntu? maybe an app? Also Im using chrome, and my webpages are being redirected constantly.. any solution? Id appreciate any help, on these issues
[21:24] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I mean, start ubuntu, then when you need to enter your username, first click around to see if you can chose another desktop.
[21:24] <azlon> is it difficult to setup multiple OS's using PXE? for example, i want to be able to choose between a windows install and an Ubuntu install. i have read plenty on how to install Ubuntu over PXE, but nothing about being able to choose between the two
[21:24] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:24] <hiexpo> trying to do a su root and am getting authenication failure
[21:24] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can't I tried to click on something and within 3 seconds the computer goes to hibernation mode
[21:24] <panzi> my sister has a 1st gen asus netbook and cant boot the netbook from usb to install netbook ubuntu. when she chooses the usb device it still boots the installed os (which is unusable: jollycloud)
[21:25] <Novalok> Any ubuntu pros got a minute, im ususally pretty good with *nix but im stumped..
[21:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can however, boot into recovery mode
[21:25] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:25] <panzi> has anyone any idea why that might be?
[21:25] <azlon> panzi: i have an Asus EEE box nettop and had a similar issue.
[21:25] <scott__> what network card do you have ?
[21:25] <rww> hiexpo: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default, and we don't support having one set, and "su root" asks for one. You possibly want "sudo -i"
[21:25] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what do you mean with 'hibernation mode' ? Please describe, so I can be sure we are on one line :P
[21:25] <panzi> azlon: how did you resolve it?
[21:26] <Novalok> panzi possibly a bios setting?
[21:26] <hiexpo> rww ok thought so but want to verify
[21:26] <panzi> Novalok: she chooses the usb device in the bios to boot from! still the installed OS is booted
[21:26] <Uhmm> henkpoley ; i can not connect my wireless network , my os is 10.4 , i can with my windows without any prolem :/
[21:26] <jessica56> hi all.. new to linux, wondering... if there is a way to create a bootable usb, within ubuntu? maybe an app? Also Im using chrome, and my webpages are being redirected constantly.. any solution? Id appreciate any help, on these issues
[21:27] <azlon> panzi: it ended up being a problem with my thumb drive.  I lose ability to control the mouse and the computer goes to sleep/hibernates and I can see that by the orange at the front of the laptop
[21:29] <panzi> azlon: hm, I'm trying another usb stick then
[21:29] <Wormfall> henkpoley: and when I hold down the lid close button and let it go.. the computer does start back up, and my power light goes blue and I can hear the fan and hard drive wokring i just dont get an image on the screen
[21:29] <azlon> panzi: if that doesnt work i dont know, sorry
[21:29] <Novalok> Aynone know how to get the WUSB100v2 to work properly under ubuntu LTS
[21:29] <panzi> hmm, my sister just says she already has installed the current (unusable) OS using this very usb stick :/
[21:30] <muelli> !details | Novalok
[21:30] <panzi> thanks anyway
[21:30] <Uhmm> i have a problem with connecting my wireless network , 10.4 , when i try to do connect from network manager.. i can not list my network.
[21:31] <hiexpo> Novalok,  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/159738-ubuntu-9-10-wusb100v2-solved.html
[21:31] <muelli> Uhmm: hm. maybe it sends on channel 13. Do you have any chance to check which channel your wireless is on?
[21:31] <Uhmm> yes it is.
[21:31] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: yes set it to broadcast ssid
[21:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: as a quick hack you can try the options described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions (search for "acpi")
[21:32] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz ok... i am trying. 2min.
[21:32] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:32] <UslessMass> I'm having an issue with permissions on my one account many my folders and files on my account are not assigned to me and it would take a long time to individual switch them over, can someone help me fix the permissions in a file so the account owner has complete access to all his files?
[21:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: for example first disable ACPI (it won't hibernate at all then), update everything and reboot with acpi enabled again
[21:32] <scott__> Uhmm: Did it used to work with 9.04 ?
[21:32] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:32] <MTMz> This is retarded
[21:32] <ilovefairuz> UslessMass: sudo chown user filename
[21:32] <denverdave> UslessMass what are the permissions of a file?
[21:33] <MTMz> Anyone know a good Iphone converter that works with ubuntu?
[21:33] <denverdave> iphone and good in same sentence? lol j/k
[21:33] <ohad> hello
[21:34] <UslessMass> All of the files have messed up permissions they are either assigned to root or my other account is there a way I can change the permissions of every file in a home directory to a certain user??
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | jessica56
[21:34] <chals2> #kubuntu
[21:34] <denverdave> UslessMass what ilovefairuz
[21:34] <denverdave> said
[21:34] <st__> UslessMass, use sudo and chmod
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: what do you your pages are being redirected ?
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> !hi | ohad
[21:35] <UslessMass> st_ and if I set that to the users home directory it will change every permission inclosed in the file?
[21:35] <chals2> #kubuntu-devel channel
[21:35] <visof> hello
[21:35] <denverdave> UslessMass sudo chown -R newusername .
[21:35] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> UslessMass: sudo chown -R username:username /home/username
[21:35] <visof> i installed skype but i can't hear or speak
[21:36] <visof> there is no sound in the program
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> !sound | visof
[21:36] <visof> what should i do
[21:36] <UslessMass> Thanks :D
[21:36] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..
[21:37] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz , i did... it's SSID now... i mean hidden now.
[21:37] <chals2> hi, if i upgrade to kubuntu 10.04 the kernel will upgrade too?
[21:37] <henkpoley> Wormfall: you think you can figure that out ?
[21:37] <UslessMass> st__ it keeps telling me username not found
[21:38] <ohad> My drive has two partitions (1-ubuntu 2-media). I tried creating a shortcut to a folder on the second partition, and I succeeded. but it only works if I mount the partition first. Is there a way for the shortcut to auto-mount that partition? (because if I need to go to "computer" and then select the partition, I can already search for the folder, and that way the shortcut is useless...)
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: it should NOT be hidden, take a screenshot
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> ohad, put the 2nd drive in your fstab so it mounts at boot (1 option anyways) good luck
[21:38] <red2kic> ohad: Write a script that will mount the partition and generate a shortcut link?
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> ohad: or set the partition to automount at boot
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> ohad: /etc/fstab
[21:40] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..any ideas?
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | denverdave
[21:40] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am trying to do that but can not seem to follow it..
[21:41] <jessica56> redirected to a site call videocop
[21:41] <mustafa> hi. i'm reading this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioZanchetta/Old/AcerAspire5738 what is bluetooth HW button? i have no idea about it
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: does this happen on ubuntu?
[21:41] <jessica56> yes
[21:41] <jessica56> 10.4
[21:41] <jessica56> using Chrom, as well as firefx
[21:41] <ohad> hi again
[21:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: when boot, does it show something like "press ESC to start grub" ?
[21:41] <Novalok> Im having a problem with my Linksys Wireless usb adapter(WUSB100v2), i've attempted many fixes including ndiswrapper, im running 10.04. Ubuntu can see my USB drive and identify it as linksys wireless usb when i run lsusb, Im pretty much lost.
[21:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: or does it just show a list with windows & ubuntu ?
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: someone probably hijacked your router or your ISP DNS server
[21:42] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can make it boot into grub 1 sec
[21:42] <jessica56> what should I do?
[21:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: at least select ubuntu from the list, then press 'e' to edit the boot options
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> mustafa: not all laptops have it, some do, some don't
[21:42] <ubunt1> Hi. I created a panel on Ubuntu and it is invisible. I was just exploring, so now I want to delete the panel. The right area of my screen is occupied by a supposedly invisible panel, so when I expand a window, it fills the screen but that space keeps there. When I right click it, I get the dialog I would get if I simply right clicked my desktop. How can I delete this panel and reclaim the lost screen space?
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> mustafa: should be next to the wireless button
[21:43] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am in the GNU Grub menu..
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: call your internet service provider
[21:43] <jessica56> I cant fix?
[21:43] <henkpoley> Wormfall: use the up down keys to go to ubuntu press e
[21:43] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz any command in terminal to show my wireless network adapter?
[21:43] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright give me one second
[21:43] <henkpoley> Wormfall: then go to the line that starts with "/boot/vmlinuz-" and press e
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: you can try resetting the router, but you'll have to contact the customer support to get the correct settings
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Uhmm, "lspci | grep -i network" should work
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: lshw -C network
[21:44] <gabriel> Hi, I have a little problem, I Installed ssh in my ubuntu 0.4 machine and when I try to ssh to a windows xp I have on my network I get: cannot connect to host <hostname> port 22, connection refused
[21:44] <jessica56> Ok.
[21:44] <Uhmm> ok i ll check.
[21:44] <gabriel> sorry, ubuntu 10.4
[21:44] <jessica56> Oh I dont need to install Ubuntu.. I just want to burn an iso imaGE ...
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> gabriel: is there's an SSH server running on the windows machine?
[21:45] <henkpoley> Wormfall: then add "noacpi" (no quotes) somewhere in there, at the end is fine I believe. Hit enter, and press b to boot with these options
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: the second link has instructions for that
[21:45] <gabriel> Ok, how do I install an ssh server on windows? Im new to this
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> jessica56: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> gabriel: ask in ##windows
[21:45] <Uhmm> ilovefairuz , ZykoticK9 yeah i have installed the driver of wireless , it s realtek
[21:45] <gabriel> ilovefairuz> ok, thanks for the help
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: lower the channel
[21:46] <Uhmm> what?
[21:46] <thune3> jessica56: someone here a week ago had some java malware causing redirections on chrome/firefox in ubuntu, you might try clearing your history/browsing data.
[21:46] <suprengr> ohad: example of fstab entry: UUID=12f3891b-abcd-4268-8cce-be737fdbb8e7 /media/ARCHIVE  ext4	defaults	0	0     is getting hold of the UUID a prob -  use gparted?
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: didn't you mention it was on channel 12? in router settings, choose a lower one
[21:47] <ubunt1> Can someone help me? I have a problem with my panels.
[21:47] <Uhmm> no it was not me :)
[21:47] <jessica56> ok
[21:47] <Uhmm> SSID activated.
[21:47] <Uhmm> everything is ok.
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> !details | ubunt 1
[21:47] <MTMz> I think WinFF is crap
[21:47] <Uhmm> still it doesn't wshow up my network name.. in wireless list
[21:47] <ubunt1> ilovefairuz: I did give full details. Nobody answered me...
[21:47] <ubunt1> ilovefairuz: "Hi. I created a panel on Ubuntu and it is invisible. I was just exploring, so now I want to delete the panel. The right area of my screen is occupied by a supposedly invisible panel, so when I expand a window, it fills the screen but that space keeps there. When I right click it, I get the dialog I would get if I simply right clicked my desktop. How can I delete this panel and reclaim the lost screen space?"
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> MTMz, then don't use it.  please refrain from such statements in this channel.
[21:48] <MTMz> ball wash
[21:48] <MTMz> stupid fuck
[21:48] <Sia-> with wget -r --no-parent can i download website completely, but if has a redirection code to redirect the index.html dowsn't work, any idea?
[21:48] <Uhmm> :/
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> !language > MTMz
[21:49] <MTMz> lol
[21:50] <ubunt1> Is there a way to see  a list of my panels so I can delete one I can't right click?
[21:50] <denverdave> just installed 10.04 lts on a new 160 gig hd.. if i boot with live cd in I can get a desktop.. rebooted after being in safe mode to try and put in the proprietary nvidia driver to replease nouveau when I did the screen is black/white blocks..any ideas?
[21:50] <ubunt1> Argh.
[21:51] <gabriel> Whats the difference between sharing files over a network and ssh?
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, see if you can move your current /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a different name, then see if you can boot using the opensource driver again.
[21:51] <imaginativeone> Would someone help me to fix my system?
[21:51] <red2kic> gabriel: ssh are not designed for sharing files. It allows you to run commands on remote computer.
[21:51] <imaginativeone> It hangs
[21:52] <imaginativeone> Indefinitely
[21:52] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok le me try that.. brb
[21:52] <gabriel> then what is the most secured way to share files over a network?
[21:52] <red2kic> gabriel: Oh and you could share files too, I suppose. I forget about "Connect To Server" option.
[21:52] <panzi> are there ubuntu images you can "install" on a netbook per dd?
[21:52] <Preludelinux> ssh using scp works great for file transfers plus there encrypted
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> gabriel, you can actually use ssh to share file!
[21:52] <Wormfall> henkley: i selected the kernel and put noacpi nolapci and still nothing
[21:52] <ilovefairuz> Uhmm: screenshot the router settings page
[21:53] <Wormfall> after the quiet splash line
[21:53] <yeremey> hello all
[21:53] <imaginativeone> I already removed the CMOS battery and put it back
[21:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 um I do not have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[21:53] <katoen> gabriel: /n
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> gabriel, for Gnome clients - Places / connect to Server / select SSH and enter the details - easier then Samba/NFS really
[21:53] <gabriel> thats what I want to do, but when I try to ssh to my windows xp machine it says that port 22 refused to connect
[21:53] <katoen> gabriel: nevermind that :P
[21:53] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: yes, but transparent work seems to be only possible with ubuntu to ubuntu
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, then you're still using opensource driver then
[21:53] <Preludelinux> windows dont have an ssh server running on it ....
[21:53] <katoen> one could run sshd in cygwin
[21:54] <Preludelinux> yeah thats possible
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, you could try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart to see if the proprietary driver would work (oppose of removing xorg.conf)
[21:54] <whyme> only one computer needs the server, so you could install the server in linux and only use client in Windows
[21:54] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 roger that trying now
[21:54] <Changey> dit u allow 22 tcp on wndows machine?
[21:54] <gabriel> I would like to share files over the network but with a password for more security
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> !hi | yeremey
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> brontosaurusrex, sorry i don't understand your statement really?
[21:55] <manhunter> hi
[21:55] <squarebracket> so i upgraded from 9.10, how can i get that social bar thingy?
[21:55] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: well try to watch a film over ssh on mac (server is ubuntu)
[21:55] <sheepz> why is it that there's a UUID field in fstab?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  sshing TO a windows machine? You installed a ssh server?
[21:55] <switch10_> squarebracket: sudo apt-get install gwibber
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> Preludelinux: katoen: gabriel: windows DOES have native ssh servers, please ask in ##windows for guidance
[21:56] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 cant find nvidi-config just did a find from /
[21:56] <gabriel> Dr_Willis> thats the part I dont understand
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> brontosaurusrex, ummm, portability of SSH may be an issue - but that's the other OS's fault!  ssh is open source, they could build proper support if they wanted too!
[21:56] <brontosaurusrex> ZykoticK9: yes thats true of course
[21:56] <sheepz> there's ssh for cygwin :P
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  what part? if you are sshing to an OS. it needs a ssh server.. now what you are going to DO once you ssh intop a windowes box.. ive no idea.
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, if you typed "nvidia-xconfig" and it wasn't there, then you don't have to propritary drivers installed.
[21:56] <squarebracket> is 10.04 using usplash or something else?
[21:56] <gabriel> I would like to share files on the network but with password protection
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> squarebracket:  its using Plymouth
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  samba and the windows share system can do that
[21:57] <sheepz> is it safe to remove this field from /etc/fstab UUID=ntfs /media/sda1 ntfs-3g users 0 0
[21:57] <gabriel> How do I password protect with samba?
[21:57] <denverdave> gabriel run smbpasswd as user or as root to set a password for a user
[21:57] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I believe it's "noacpi nolapic" (different order acpi <- and -> apic)
[21:57] <brontosaurusrex> gabriel: make linux box the server and win boxes the clients, easy way to access is using filezilla client on windows for example, or that scp thingy
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  check the windows docs/help for 'shares'   if you want a share thats protecxted on a windows machine.
[21:58] <squarebracket> Dr_Willis, is there any sort of config i can edit?
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> sheepz: that will make the partition not mounted at boot, you'll have to mount it manually after you log in
[21:58] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 installing proprietary nvidia driver now
[21:58] <sheepz> ilovefairuz: ok, thought so
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> squarebracket:  its a pain to alter plymouth.
[21:58] <brontosaurusrex> gabriel: talking about ssh, or setup samba if you need better transparency from win side
[21:58] <sheepz> ilovefairuz: but if I create fstab entry do I need to include an UUID?
[21:58] <Wormfall> henkpoley: after i type that in after the quiet splash what should I press to save the file
[21:59] <erik14213us> hi all
[21:59] <frxstrem> is Ubuntu (and other Linux distros) backwards-compatible when it comes to software, so that I can use a program designed for Linux 15 years ago in Ubuntu 10.4? (theoretically speaking)
[21:59] <whyme> sheepz: no, you don't.
[21:59] <Wormfall> i see press ctrl-x to boot, but this doens't save it
[21:59] <squarebracket> Dr_Willis, no simple config file or anything? i'm using ubuntu-studio, and something seems to be off with the resolution it picks (or something)
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> sheenobu, you "should" but the old /dev/sdX# will still work
[21:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall: hit enter, then press 'b' when you are at the list again
[21:59] <gabriel> ok, Thanks a lot for the help, Thanks everyone that helped me
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> sheepz: you don't have to but it's more fault tolerant
[21:59] <sheepz> currently ubuntu prompts me with a screen that the ntfs partion could not be automatically mounted
[21:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall: this is not saved at all, it is just an overrider
[21:59] <erik14213us> i still have had no success in editing grub
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> frxstrem:  in theory yes.. but  theres proberly going to be issues if you dont recompile it. (ie just have a binary)
[21:59] <DocPlatypus> frxstrem: *sometimes* you can run older software written for Unix or a GNU variant in something modern. it depends on the libraries used etc.
[21:59] <haarp_> hi all. , i can just connect to internet with my cable , my wireless it not working with my 10.04 ...what can be the problem?
[21:59] <erik14213us> for video setting
[22:00] <frxstrem> Dr_Willis, DocPlatypus: ok, thanks
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: do you see any wireless networks listed?
[22:00] <DocPlatypus> frxstrem: also as Dr_Willis said it *really* helps to have source code and recompile.
[22:00] <erik14213us> so im still running 9.04
[22:00] <haarp_> ilovefairuz, no
[22:00] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: pastebin: lshw -C network
[22:00] <AndrewMC> haarp_: Check for restricted drivers too
[22:00] <haarp_> ok.
[22:00] <DocPlatypus> haarp_: what wireless chipset?
[22:00] <erik14213us> the monitor goes black on start up with 10.04
[22:00] <haarp_> realtek.
[22:00] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 got it installed annd ran nvidia-config.. have new xorg.conf.. will let you know in a few after i reboot
[22:01] <Wormfall> henkpoley: It is stating press ctrl-x to boot, should i just do that
[22:01] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: also check system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:01] <haarp_> ok
[22:01] <gary_inNYC> hi, I understand ipod/iphone compatibility has been added to 10.04.  does this compatibility apply to syncing apps as well, or just to music, videos, pics?
[22:01] <Wormfall> pressing enter inputs another line and then b juts types another letter on that line
[22:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try that yes, I don't know much about the changes in grub 2 used by Ubuntu nowadays :P
[22:02] <erik14213us> does anyone else have video problem with 10.04
[22:02] <danielstri> Hello, I'm following instructions about how to share my internet, it says "ifconfig ethX ip, where ethX is the network card and ip is your desired server ip address (Usually <IP_ADDRESS> is used)". How can I find out what to put as ethX? I don't even know the format..
[22:02] <Gnea> !iphone
[22:02] <AndrewMC> gary_inNYC: Just music etc apps must be done via app store
[22:02] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright let me try it.. its "booting a command list"\
[22:02] <ilovefairuz> danielstri: type 'ifconfig' and press enter
[22:02] <gary_inNYC> ah thank you
[22:02] <Wormfall> henkpoley: nope, same situation
[22:03] <erik14213us> i have tried an after i see ubuntu logo the screen goes black
[22:03] <henkpoley> erik14213us: video problems are related to you graphics drivers (X11), sound card and individual media players (Xine, mplayer, etc.)
[22:03] <Wormfall> henkpoley: turned on and then right to sleep/hibernate
[22:03] <henkpoley> erik14213us: so what's you setup ?
[22:03] <nico_> hello all
[22:03] <sheepz> ok, let's see if it works :D
[22:03] <erik14213us> i tried ubuntu 10/04
[22:03] <danielstri> ilovefairuz: What is the format of what they are looking for?
[22:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall: really odd, it should be able to do that at this point..
[22:04] <erik14213us> i cant get to login screen
[22:04] <ilovefairuz> danielstri: eth0, eth1, .. it's the card connected to the internet
[22:04] <haarp_> http://pastebin.com/JAc6815n
[22:04] <henkpoley> Wormfall: with noacpi it can't even shutdown your laptop in the end, when you ask to do so
[22:04] <danielstri> Ah ok
[22:04] <danielstri> Thanks.
[22:04] <erik14213us> dell dimension 2400
[22:04] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am not sure what the problem can be
[22:05] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/JAc6815n
[22:05] <erik14213us> what next
[22:05] <erik14213us> go back ro to 9.04
[22:05] <nico_> i am repairing a computer for a friend and she wanted to change the password on the computer. it is a kubuntu 8.10 and when i went to change the password it comes back saying "no password supplied" does anyone know how to resolve this problem
[22:05] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I think the ATI graphics driver does something funky, I'll see if there are any boot options to use a 'save' VGA driver, or older ATI driver
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   .. gives an error ?
[22:05] <haarp_> i ll check now. wait.
[22:06] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I am running ati radeon mobility 9000
[22:06] <AndrewMC> haarp_: You should be able to join networks
[22:06] <erik14213us> had same problems with 9.10
[22:06] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:06] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$
[22:06] <haarp_> nope :)
[22:06] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: next: iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:06] <erik14213us> i know 9.04 no longer supported
[22:06] <haarp_> ok
[22:06] <erik14213us> but no choice
[22:07] <Gnea> erik14213us: have you tried turning off the 'quiet splash' options?
[22:07] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$ iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:07] <haarp_> wlan0     No scan results
[22:07] <haarp_> haarp@ubuntu:~$
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: well, there's `xforcevesa`
[22:07] <erik14213us> look im a newbie
[22:07] <Gnea> drop the 'tude, I asked a yes or no question
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: it needs to be on the same line as where you tried to add `noacpi`
[22:07] <erik14213us> i have no idea about turning off splash screen
[22:07] <henkpoley> Wormfall: skip the noacpi nolapic stuff though
[22:07] <AndrewMC> erik14213us: Why cant you upgrade?
[22:08] <erik14213us> karmic
[22:08] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: please use pastebin for output next time, and do you have any wireless networks in range?
[22:08] <Wormfall> so right after quiet splash put xforcevesa
[22:08] <erik14213us> thats the problem
[22:08] <Iceman_B> Im setting up a new ubuntu machine and I have another system which holds a server system. How much effort will it take to use that drive in the new system?
[22:08] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yes i have many... and no1 is listed.
[22:08] <erik14213us> i was told try editing grub
[22:08] <Iceman_B> can I access my data just like that? do I need to moun it first, do I need credentials?
[22:08] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, it's part of the bootup sequence
[22:08] <Gnea> erik14213us: yeah, that's basically what it is. you can edit it without editting it permanently.
[22:09] <sheepz> is there a way to test my fstab without restarting :P?
[22:09] <erik14213us> i thought issue be fixed
[22:09] <erik14213us> by now
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> sheepz:  sudo mount -a
[22:09] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: there's a thread about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267961 .. I'm looking into solutions
[22:09] <sheepz> Dr_Willis: ok, no error
[22:09] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xforcevesa dind't do anything
[22:10] <Guest> Hey, I'm trying to use patch on ubuntu (slicehost) but it's not installed, what package should I install?
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, have you disbled noacpi to test yet?  More importantly, do you get the the Main Menu with the Try / Install / Test and stuff?
[22:10] <haarp_> i checked all the forums about the problem.. they are mentioning ndiswrapper.. i also installed it.
[22:10] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, I can help walk you through it if you're ready to do some troubleshooting
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  if the command is 'patch' just type it on the terminal and it should say what package is needed,
[22:10] <thune3> nico_: are you trying to change the password to <blank>? that sound like the error.
[22:10] <erik14213us> that means shitting down
[22:10] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , i checked all the forums about the problem.. they are mentioning ndiswrapper.. i also installed it., and the last chance i came here.
[22:10] <haresh> hello
[22:10] <erik14213us> an reinstalling 10.04
[22:10] <Guest> Dr_Willis: I'm using slicehost, and the version of ubuntu installed doesn't do that for me.
[22:11] <Gnea> what?
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, from the main menu, press F6 and highlight then press enter on NoACPI and noapic - then select try again
[22:11] <Gnea> !language
[22:11] <Gnea> erik14213us: I realize you meant 'shutting down', but please, be careful
[22:11] <erik14213us> is this with gnome running
[22:11] <mrman208> Hi
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  no idea what slicehost is.. You could install whatever packatge does that job. bnut i dont know what that is either. or just try apt-cache search patch
[22:11] <Gnea> ZykoticK9: that's assuming quite a bit
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, i though you couldn't get to gnome?
[22:11] <erik14213us> i cant
[22:11] <haresh> guys need some help in installing my grafix card
[22:11] <erik14213us> im only asking question
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> !find patch
[22:12] <Gnea> erik14213us: if you want an answer, you need to answer our questions.
[22:12] <Guest> ok thanks! :)
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> erik14213us, so from LiveCD try the various boot options with the F6 key, good luck man.
[22:12] <Gnea> that's how the troubleshooting process works.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  seems its called 'patch' :)
[22:12] <erik14213us> ok
[22:12] <mrman208> IRC is crazy :P
[22:12] <henkpoley> Wormfall: recovery mode from Grub works huh ?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> mrman208:  it is? Never noticed.
[22:12] <erik14213us> i mean once i install it
[22:12] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: pastebin /var/log/messages
[22:13] <Gnea> erik14213us: are you in windows?
[22:13] <Guest> Dr_Willis: yeah i thought patch was so basic that it wouldn't be in apt-get, i was surprised it wasn't installed by default
[22:13] <mrman208> Dr_Willis: Well, here it is, so many q/a conversations going on at once xD
[22:13] <squarebracket> ah! indicator applet icons are huge now!! how do i undo?
[22:13] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can boot into recovery mode with no problem
[22:13] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok
[22:13] <erik14213us> does 10.04 have more boot options than 9.10
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  why would it be installed by default. :) the compiler and stuff are not default either..
[22:13] <erik14213us> no
[22:13] <henkpoley> Wormfall: but that only gives you a command prompt isn't it ?
[22:13] <erik14213us> im on xubuntu 9.04
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  build-essential may pull it in. I never uinstalled it manually.
[22:13] <Iceman_B> when I want to use an HDD with an encrypted home folder in another Ubuntu system, how do I get to my files ?
[22:13] <Guest> Dr_Willis: yeah that surprised me too :) well i'm a ubuntu noob, thanks for the help
[22:13] <Gnea> erik14213us: boot options are pretty much all the same. it's just a matter of doing it.
[22:13] <mrman208> !apt-get
[22:14] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it gives me resume clean, dpkg, failsefX, feuv, netroor, root
[22:14] <Gnea> erik14213us: what are your system specs? cpu/ram/etc?
[22:14] <Wormfall> henkpoley: those are my options
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest:  Only so much can fit ion a 700mb cd..
[22:14] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/4uWkXgQj
[22:14] <erik14213us> 2.8 ghz 1 gig ram
[22:14] <erik14213us> intel
[22:14] <Gnea> ok
[22:14] <enix316> i have an internal blu ray/ hd dvd player in my windowz box. does anyone have similar and run ubuntu 10.04 ok?
[22:15] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: paste all the file
[22:15] <erik14213us> someone said i needed to edit grub
[22:15] <haarp_> ok
[22:15] <Gnea> erik14213us: yeah, try reinstalling 10.04, then see if the problem reproduces. if it does, come back and ask again.
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> enix316:  You mean 'watch blueray movies in ubuntu' ? ubuntu should run on a system with blieray with no oproblems.
[22:15] <Gnea> erik14213us: it's really impossible to tell you what the problem is when it's not installed.
[22:15] <erik14213us> i can tell u exactly wat happens
[22:15] <Gnea> it doesn't matter.
[22:15] <erik14213us> on startup
[22:15] <Gnea> nope
[22:15] <Gnea> that doesn't count
[22:16] <erik14213us> i see the logo
[22:16] <Gnea> need to know what dmesg says
[22:16] <Gnea> you don't have that.
[22:16] <erik14213us> then monitor goes bl;ank
[22:16] <Gnea> yeah
[22:16] <Gnea> and then nothing happens, i know
[22:16] <Gnea> seen it
[22:16] <FloodBot2> Gnea: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , how can select all the sentences in terminal? i can not select all.
[22:16] <Wormfall> henkpoley: even if i run in failsafex mode it still wont work.. the problem is when ubuntu is starting :(
[22:16] <erik14213us> so whats the point of reinstalling
[22:16] <Gnea> erik14213us: you'll just need to reinstall and then turn on verbosity on-boot
[22:16] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: sudo pastebinit /var/log/messages
[22:17] <haarp_> ok
[22:17] <enix316> Dr_Willis: just curious if harware is compatable, google is not returing good results
[22:17] <Gnea> to see what the real problem is
[22:17] <haresh> guys need some help in installing my grafix card
[22:17] <Gnea> otherwise, stick with xubuntu
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> enix316, i'm sure the drive will work (test with a LiveCD), not sure about the HD/BR stuff (check out support with mplayer) - also see the !restricted factoid for any pointers.  good luck man.
[22:17] <ilovefairuz> !details | haresh
[22:17] <erik14213us> how do u turn on verbosity
[22:17] <henkpoley> Wormfall: personally I would drop to a root shell, and use `aptitude update` and then `aptitude safe-upgrade` to update everything to latest versions.
[22:17] <Gnea> remove 'quiet splash' from the bootup sequence
[22:17] <erik14213us> how do i do that
[22:17] <henkpoley> Wormfall: I expect that would be the 'root' option
[22:17] <Gnea> erik14213us: try it with your xubuntu
[22:18] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , http://pastebin.com/7sh5NWYT
[22:18] <mrman208> Is this related to ubuntu? I wan't to install Ubuntu on a 4GB USB pen drive, created with a Mac, and boot my mac to the USB Drive. When I install on the flash drive and hold option on Mac startup it only shows the main hard drive.
[22:18] <thune3> erik14213us: what video chip do you have "lspci | grep VGA", http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes may be relevant depending
[22:18] <Gnea> erik14213us: okay, when you turn on the computer, it goes through POST, then it boots xubuntu, right?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> enix316:   its a sata opticel drive.. should be rather standard.. for data ussage at least.
[22:18] <henkpoley> Wormfall: do you have you laptop plugged in with a network cable ?
[22:18] <erik14213us> yes
[22:18] <Dynetrekk> hi, how can I set rtorrent's upload "throttle" to 0 kb/s?
[22:18] <Wormfall> henkpoley: Yea
[22:18] <Gnea> erik14213us: okay, well there's a small amount of time for you to press ESC (it should say so on the screen) - that's when you can edit it
[22:18] <henkpoley> Wormfall: whew, no way I would be going to guide you through configuring wireless on the command prompt :P
[22:19] <aeon-ltd> erik14213us: dlete the options in /etc/default/grub
[22:19] <enix316> Dr_Willis: Thanks, think i am gonna pull drive and hook it up and find out. appreciate ur input
[22:19] <erik14213us> an what do i type
[22:19] <Wormfall> henkpoley: :P
[22:19] <mrman208> Is this related to ubuntu? I wan't to install Ubuntu on a 4GB USB pen drive, created with a Mac, and boot my mac to the USB Drive. When I install on the flash drive and hold option on Mac startup it only shows the main hard drive.
[22:20] <erik14213us> how do i delete them
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> mrman208, i'm under the impression (but don't know) that you can't boot MAC from USB
[22:20] <Oer> mrman208, intel mac ? > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[22:20] <mrman208> Oer: Cool, I'll check it out
[22:20] <danielstri> Has anyone else been having problems with sharing internet on 10.04?
[22:20] <haresh> how can i cehck if i have fully installed my graix card
[22:21] <erik14213us> i have never fooled with editing grub
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: Does it matter that this is not an iMac?
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> haresh, check out glxinfo and/or glxgears from terminal
[22:21] <Oer> mrman208, macbook ?
[22:21] <Gnea> erik14213us: well, you press ESC and then all is explained.
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: Correct
[22:21] <haresh> ZykoticK9, i get this Segmentation fault
[22:21] <mrman208> Oer: But Intel all the same
[22:21] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you at the root shell now?
[22:22] <Gnea> erik14213us: it's pretty easy to figure out, even for a beginner. it tells you which key-presses do what.
[22:22] <Oer> mrman208,  oke, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[22:22] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: did you try installing linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic ?
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> haresh, that's bad!
[22:22] <ccmonster> can someone help me with a svn command really quick? The #SVN room isn't responding and im a tad confused. Thanks.
[22:22] <mrman208> Oer: Awesome, thanks!
[22:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: let me get there give me one sec..
[22:22] <Oer> have fun
[22:22] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , no... let me install it :)
[22:22] <haresh> huh
[22:22] <Wormfall> henkpoley: alright im there
[22:22] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , thanks for helping me out :) i know i am headache.
[22:22] <henkpoley> Wormfall: from what I can see you need the 'radeon' driver for your graphics card.
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> haresh, are you using nvidia?
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> haresh: it means a program is crashing with no error, pastebin: lshw -C display
[22:23] <Wormfall> henkpoley: root@ubuntu:~#
[22:23] <haresh> ZykoticK9, Ati radeon 9200
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: it's what we do here :)
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> haresh, sorry man - i can't help ya.  good luck.
[22:23] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , its installing :) (thanks)
[22:23] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what does `grep radeon /etc/X11/xorg.conf` say ? (don't type the backticks: ``)
[22:23] <floating> How can I have a current working dir (.) in the default LD_LIBRARY_PATH ?
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> haresh, i think i recall something about a segfault error with ATI recently... but an FYI, don't remember the details.
[22:24] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no such file or directory
[22:24] <ilovefairuz> floating: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=whateveryouwant
[22:24] <Iceman_B> how do I copy data between 2 seperate ubuntu systems over a network ?
[22:24] <wildeja> Hi guys 'n' gal's, I wonder if you could help me please. I've just sat down to watch a movie with my wife on my shiny new Ubuntu box and it wouldn't play. Movieplayer went of and searched for a plugin but came up empty. Now it just says The playback of this movie requires a X-NAUTILUS-DESKTOP protocol source plugin which is not installed.
[22:25] <henkpoley> Wormfall: what does `ls /etc/X11/x*` say ?
[22:25] <haresh> ilovefairuz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/a8wEntF2
[22:25] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: Places > Connect to > select ssh and type username
[22:25] <Dynetrekk> wildeja: tried vlc?
[22:25] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: what if neither system has a GUI ?
[22:25] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , done :) Setting up linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.25) ...
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> wildeja, two options  A) install codecs (ubuntu-restricted-extras) or B) differnt program VLC or mplayer
[22:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[22:25] <wildeja> Dynetrekk, No, but the name just keeps coming up, I'm going to go get it, Cheers
[22:25] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/init:
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: install and use sshfs
[22:26] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xinitrc xinput.d xserverrc
[22:26] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: reboot
[22:26] <Wormfall> henkpoley: /etc/x11/xkb:
[22:26] <henkpoley> Wormfall: enough.. :P
[22:26] <floating> thanks ilovefairuz
[22:26] <Wormfall> haha
[22:26] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: okay. I'll try that, thanks
[22:26] <Dynetrekk> wildeja: apt-get install vlc :-) good luck
[22:26] <haarp_> ilovefairuz? ok.. i am connecting from it... btw , it makes smthg in grub.cfg , anything will i choose when starting up? coz it's the same computer i am using.
[22:27] <mrman208> Oer: I checked it out but it does not say anything about installing on a USB drive.
[22:27] <floating> ilovefairuz: hmm that didn't stay there though.. export LD_LIBRARY_PATH.. when relogin
[22:27] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try `X -configure`
[22:27] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: no, just boot as normal
[22:27] <haarp_> ok
[22:27] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok brb in 3min.
[22:27] <Wormfall> henkpoley: gave mea  list of video drivers
[22:28] <Oer> mrman208, installing on, not installing from ?
[22:28] <ilovefairuz> floating: no it doesn't persist, you can add it to .bashrc but it's generally a bad idea to use it, what are you trying to accomplish ?
[22:28] <henkpoley> Wormfall: but are you back at the command prompt ?
[22:28] <mrman208> Oer: on, correct
[22:28] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it says that my xorg.conf file is now /root/xorg.conf.new
[22:28] <Wormfall> yea
[22:29] <henkpoley> Wormfall: sweet, now try `grep Driver /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:29] <Oer> mrman208, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles#Mac%20OS%20X
[22:29] <mrman208> Oer: Thanks, will check it out
[22:29] <Wormfall> henkpoley: i got available driver options are kbd, mouse and radeon
[22:30] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok Im back after a brief run to the store.
[22:30] <Wormfall> henkpoley: it seems that kbd and mouse are installed and "avaialbel driver optiosn are" radoen
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> Oer, so it appears you can boot Mac from USB, good to know.  mrman208
[22:30] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 I am at the main page but there are no toolbars, no mouse pointer and no keyboard control.. any ideas?
[22:30] <henkpoley> Wormfall: yes, radeon is the one you want
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, press F6
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, keyboard only here!
[22:31] <Oer> ZykoticK9, mrman208 http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-create-an-ubuntu-installation-usb-on-the-mac/
[22:31] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 pressed F6 and no response. its like gnome is locked up
[22:31] <floating> ilovefairuz: ok tx. my friends problem, but he left now
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, this is from a 10.04 live cd - at the first text boot option where you choose livecd or install?
[22:31] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yes now? :)
[22:32] <henkpoley> Wormfall: now try `xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:32] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: still no wireless networks listed?
[22:32] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 no this is booting without the cd in the drive
[22:32] <mrman208> Oer: I don't think that will work. I want to use the USB drive and boot to it on the Mac
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, ahhhh different steps!  might need someone elses help REAL soon!
[22:32] <JohninLex> any really older ubuntu users in here right now
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, hold shift as computer starts to get grub menu
[22:33] <Wormfall> henkpoley: xorg command not found
[22:33] <Scunizi> JohninLex: older .. like 50yrs +?
[22:33] <aristo> JohninLex, why
[22:33] <haarp_> i ailovefairuz , i am on cable now.. how can i check the listed wireless networks?
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> Anyone know how to add kernel parameters easily to 10.04?  i'd love to through "text" in for denverdave
[22:33] <henkpoley> Wormfall: doh, try X instead of Xorg
[22:33] <JohninLex> or at least someone that knows about pcmcia devices, doesnt think there old videos cards
[22:33] <agib> does anyone know how I can automate the installation of java? i.e. if I'm setting up a server with chef and I have `package "sun-java6-jre"` will it get stuck on the DLJ license?
[22:33] <ritztech> for the life of me i cant remember CLI verion to view a web page
[22:33] <UmlautBanana> So I have a linksys router, and internet doesn't work on Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04. I think I need a driver of some sort, but I don't know where to get it.
[22:33] <ilovefairuz> haresh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/300304/comments/16
[22:33] <Wormfall> henkpoley: screen went blank..
[22:33] <henkpoley> Wormfall, so: `X -config /root/xorg.conf.new`
[22:34] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , i am on cable now.. how can i check the listed wireless networks?
[22:34] <mrman208> Oer: I don't think that will work. I want to use the USB drive and boot to it on the Mac
[22:34] <henkpoley> Wormfall: and it's "hibernating" again ?
[22:34] <henkpoley>
[22:34] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:34] <haarp_> ok
[22:34] <mrman208> Oer: That one has it booting on a Non-Mac
[22:34] <Wormfall> henkpoley: no, not hibernating... everything seems normal just no picture
[22:34] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  and aristo  you see why now
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> agib, you need to take adding the partner repo as well (possibly) good luck [i've heard others ask the same question for automation purposes, don't recall an answer]
[22:34] <henkpoley> Wormfall: no mouse even ?
[22:34] <Oer> mrman208,  sorry, then you have to burn the cd
[22:34] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , wlan0     No scan results
[22:34] <Scunizi> JohninLex: you using that for internet access?  is it pcmcia to ethernet? or ??
[22:34] <haarp_> :/
[22:34] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok got grub menu up.. goig to boot to recovery mode yes?
[22:34] <agib> ZykoticK9: think it's possible?
[22:35] <Wormfall> henkpoley: I can't see anything.. its as if the screen is off.. \
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, sure
[22:35] <Oer> i do not own a mac, just knew these helppages
[22:35] <wildeja> bye
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> agib, i doubt it - but i'm a pessimist ;)
[22:35] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  yea but not wireless, 10mbps card
[22:35] <mrman208> Oer: I have a CD, but When I install to the drive and hold option on startup, it does not show the USB drive as a bootable option. Only the main hard drive
[22:35] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 now booting into failsafe graphic mode
[22:35] <Scunizi> JohninLex: is the system just not recognizing it?
[22:35] <henkpoley> Wormfall: Try hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[22:36] <Wormfall> henkpoley: nothing
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, once you get there i'd try updating your system first (do you know how to do that cli?)
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: do you have all the latest updates? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrad
[22:36] <Scunizi> JohninLex: also .. is there another nic card in the computer?
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> upgrade *
[22:36] <aristo> JohninLex, yes i see, sorry but i have never worked with pcmcia devices
[22:36] <haarp_> yes i have.. but i ll do these things wait.
[22:36] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  no it see the card, just fine, I just need to knw how to edit eth1 to set the tx and rx and dhcpcd
[22:36] <henkpoley> Wormfall: Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[22:37] <Wormfall> henkpoley: there we go text came back
[22:37] <Scunizi> JohninLex: are you cli only or do you have a gui?
[22:37] <JohninLex> Scunizi: and I am just playing with Ubuntu 5.04 on and older toshiba 320cdt
[22:37] <frxstrem> are there any good XML/(X)HTML editors for Ubuntu?
[22:37] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 I see ilovefairuz gave that command already will run it
[22:37] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , just libc6 .. it's upgragind now;.
[22:37] <Wormfall> henkpoley: seems as if some stuff started.. and it tried to do something but then it just stopped
[22:37] <JohninLex> Scunizi:  I am just cli only right now
[22:38] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: are you on 64bit? if so check http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9530415&postcount=2
[22:38] <henkpoley> Wormfall: are you back at the command prompt ?
[22:38] <Scunizi> JohninLex: ah.. wow.. I think I still have my iso from that release.. let's see. .. hang on a sec
[22:38] <Wormfall> henkpoley: last lie is (II) [KMS] kernel modesetting eneabled.
[22:38] <henkpoley> Wormfall: else, hit Ctrl-C
[22:38] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , yeah i am on 64bit Ubuntu. ok ill check.
[22:38] <JohninLex> aristo: and I am just playing with Ubuntu 5.04 on and older toshiba 320cdt
[22:38] <Wormfall> im there now
[22:38] <aristo> JonhinLex, wow you want to feel pain ^^
[22:39] <wmcinnis> anyone have a fix for flash
[22:39] <JohninLex> Scunizi: I am a vintage laptop collector and I fine what OS will work on them, and that is it boo for me
[22:39] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok running upgrade after update this may take a few
[22:39] <Wormfall> henkpoley: back at the command prompt
[22:39] <wmcinnis> when in full screen its slow...
[22:39] <aristo> wmcinnis, what do you mean?
[22:39] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: reboot after you install
[22:39] <mrman208> anyone have any ideas?
[22:39] <haarp_> ilovefairuz , ok.
[22:39] <wmcinnis> aristo, when in full screen its choppy and slow
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, you might want to just restart after the updates are completed to see if it resolved the issue...
[22:40] <SimonP86> hello, I have a 64-bit program which requires a library located in my /usr/local/lib dir.  When I try to run the program I get the following error message: "error while loading shared libraries: libantlr3c.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".  I've checked in the /etc/ld.so.conf.d dir and the libc_conf file contains the line "/usr/local/lib" so I don't understand how it can't find the shared library?
[22:40] <henkpoley> Wormfall: try `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[22:40] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 good idea.. will do so and then report back
[22:40] <Scunizi> JohninLex: I play with this so rarely I"ve forgotten most of it.. /etc/resolv.conf has some settings if it is in the 5.04 release and there is another .conf file that lists IP, network card etc.. ifconfig will give you stats and more info
[22:40] <aristo> wmcinnis, it depends if you are using some via gpu you are doomed, if using nvidia propietary drivers try deactivatig hardware accel in flash player options
[22:40] <ilovefairuz> mrman208: how did you install to the drive?
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, is the program looking for the 32bit or 64bit library?
[22:40] <wmcinnis> aristo, where do i do that
[22:40] <twobitsprite> so, I'm running ubuntu, but I installed the kubuntu desktop. When I log out, and then log in with KDE, my wireless network doesn't come up... am I missing like a KDE version of the network manager thing or something?
[22:40] <SimonP86> 64bit
[22:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: go to the end and look for Errors (usually marked with [EE] and [WW] or "error" and "warning", "fail"..)
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, sorry you started with that.  good luck.
[22:41] <wmcinnis> aristo, i have the nvidia ion
[22:41] <Wormfall> henkpoley: A lot of information came up.. not sure what I am looking for
[22:41] <Scunizi> JohninLex: in /etc/network is "interfaces".. look there too.
[22:41] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: First, I erased it with Disk Utility on the Mac. The installed to it using the whole disk and installed the bootloader on the USB.
[22:41] <mrman208> *Then
[22:41] <aguitel> twobitsprite, in kde network manager get bug
[22:41] <henkpoley> Wormfall: you can search around within a file in `less` by hitting / and then entering the word you are looking for
[22:41] <agib> ZykoticK9: going to try openjdk-6-jre :)
[22:42] <ilovefairuz> !usb | mrman208
[22:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: so /error[enter] for example
[22:42] <aristo> wmcinnis, which driver are you using?
[22:42] <twobitsprite> aguitel: you mean, there is a bug in the kde network manager? or are you telling me to get something called "bug"?
[22:42] <wmcinnis> the latest binary
[22:42] <JohninLex> I see a problem here Scunizi  there bothe empty time to build some building thanks
[22:42] <Scunizi> JohninLex: the interfaces file will list which card to use, static or dhcp, auto connect, netmask, gateway etc..
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> agib, hope it works for you app!  no silly license to accept ;)
[22:42] <agib> heh
[22:42] <agib> me too
[22:42] <agib> thank you
[22:42] <henkpoley> Wormfall: questionmark (so": ?) searches upwards
[22:42] <wildeja> Hello again, Would anyone happen to know why every time i try to install a package from the repos i get told that the package cannot be authenticated please
[22:42] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: But that's the thing, I am not trying to install FROM a USB drive, I am trying to install TO it and boot from the USB on a Mac
[22:43] <aguitel> twobitsprite, there is a bug in the kde network manager
[22:43] <SimonP86> ZykoticK9: I've made a workaround by adding the line "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib" to ~.bashrc
[22:43] <twobitsprite> aguitel: is there a workaround?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, nice!  well done man.
[22:43] <mrman208> ilovefairuz: Wait, nvm, just read the last part :P
[22:43] <owen1> i wanted to convert a friend with macbookpro to ubuntu. i chose to 'run ubuntu without installing' from the menu but nothing happend. we waited for 10 minutes but the screen remained black. please help lost soul switch to ubuntu!
[22:43] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: what repo? standard repo? sudo apt-get update   and see if there are any errors
[22:43] <aguitel> twobitsprite, try to use nm-applet from gnome
[22:43] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, on it,
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  totally depends on the video card/chipset
[22:44] <owen1> Dr_Willis: let me google for macbookpro 5.1
[22:44] <pagan0ne> ok, i managed to hose my xorg.conf file, and x hangs on boot... i have a bluetooth keyboard, and the when i boot into init1 it drops me to a prompt, at that prompt bluetooth has not yet been initilaized, and the kernel had been handed control of the keyboard so i can not make a selection, is there anyway to boot directly into shell w/o any weird help menus on the way?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> owen1:  ive noticed the live cd - can be VERY slow at tiomes to boot up also
[22:44] <henkpoley> Wormfall: just have a good look around for anything that tells you it is having a problem. It's free form, basically the driver programmer can write there whatever he wants.
[22:44] <twobitsprite> aguitel: where do I find that? aptitude doesn't recognize that name
[22:44] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, worked fine, last line said "Fetched 138kB in 8s (15.5kB/s)"
[22:45] <SimonP86> ZykoticK9: can I just add the line "/usr/local/lib" to x86_64-linux-gnu.conf?
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, hope you have a usb keyboard handy (man that's a chicken-n-egg / catch 22 type situation, good luck)
[22:45] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: input is not a pipe (press return)
[22:45] <aguitel> twobitsprite, you have gnome to?
[22:45] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: what ubuntu version are you running and what package are you trying to install ?
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> SimonP86, not sure
[22:45] <SumoJim_> Hello, I have just booted the latest 32bit live CD onto my laptop. It shows the Ubuntu logo along with the little progress dots... Once that screen finishes the screen goes black and nothing else happens. (There isn't even a flashing cursor.)
[22:45] <twobitsprite> aguitel: yep
[22:45] <SumoJim_> This laptop is from 2005 and has run many previous versions of Ubuntu without a problem.
[22:46] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, i dont however @ grub my keyboard works as a normal usb keyboard because kernel has not been passed control, i tried setting 1 after the kernel line, but it boots into a txt menu asking me to select which i cant
[22:46] <SumoJim_> Has anyone else experienced something like this?
[22:46] <aguitel> twobitsprite, alt+f2:and type :nm-applet
[22:46] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Ubuntu 10.04 AMD64 Desktop, Any package dose the same, i have to install everything through cli to get the option to 'install anyway(y/n)'
[22:46] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: how do I get out of this log file
[22:46] <aristo> aguitel @debian-es too?
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, my suggestion is at the first text menu, to press F6 then turn off ACPI but pressing enter on it to select it.  Then try LiveCD option again, if you want to install you can from inside Live Environment.  good luck.
[22:46] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, i would ssh into the box but apparently sshd is loaded after x which doesnt make any sense to set it up that way!
[22:46] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: is that in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, or by less itself ?
[22:46] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, VLC, gcompris, everything :)
[22:47] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: in the file
[22:47] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: you can quit less by pressing 'q'
[22:47] <aguitel> aristo, i am now with ubuntu
[22:47] <Wormfall_> alright im back at the root command prompt
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, actually ssh should be loaded before X, but are you using wireless? could be nm-applet hasn't run.
[22:47] <aguitel> aristo, in my laptop
[22:47] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: personally I would expect it having problem with choosing the right "modeline", or choosing something that is far too big for your lcd
[22:47] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, no im not using wireless
[22:47] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i ran the grep DEriver /root/xorg.conf.new command again and radeon is still there
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pagan0ne, then ssh should be running.
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildbat: choose another mirror in "source sources"
[22:48] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: should I install notebook instead of desktop for my laptop?\
[22:48] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: the info why it doesn't work should be in the log file
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildbat: then "reload"
[22:48] <pagan0ne> ZykoticK9, the host is unreachable via anything, it appears networking wont even come up till after x has loaded, could it be because network-manager manages all this?
[22:48] <SumoJim_> ZykotickK98, is ACPI a BIOS option?
[22:48] <x86br> i got mine wireless card working out of box on ubuntu 10. But for some reason, the wificard dont search any hotspot
[22:48] <aristo> aguitel, ubuntu on desktop pc, debian VMs for network services
[22:48] <x86br> what i need do?
[22:48] <pil> is it possible to change ae user without logoff?
[22:48] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, sorry? I don't understand "sources sources"
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, no a boot option
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> !tab > SumoJim_
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: from synaptic
[22:48] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I only have two WW (warnings) that say /usr/share/fonts/x11/cyrillic - does not exist
[22:49] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: as far as I know the netbook version mostly has a different desktop manager, no differences in drivers.
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> henkpoley, correct
[22:49] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: fonts come and go, not important
[22:49] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, ahh light dawns, i'll go try now
[22:49] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: hmm so the problem is that we can not isntall the radeon drivers?
[22:49] <x86br> so, no one?
[22:50] <henkpoley> you do have the radeon driver, else you would not have a black screen even
[22:50] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: can you find out ( nearish to the end) what resolution it chooses ?
[22:50] <Linux> hello guys...what is that on YouTube with chromium? http://screenshooter.net/57176690/wniqxcn i cant click on "view more info"....
[22:50] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: it's in the log file
[22:50] <pil> I am just curious about something - is it possible to change a user without loging off?
[22:50] <brontosaurusrex> x86br: and your router does transmitt the ssid?
[22:51] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: I only see font stuff..
[22:51] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: A boot option? You mean adjust the boot order? I never get to any menu beyond the bios.
[22:51] <Guest98482> hi
[22:51] <nico_> please can anyone tell me how to fix this password problem?
[22:51] <Oer> pil yes, only if the user is not active.
[22:51] <henkpoley> pil: yes, if your desktop manager (say: gnome) is compatible with your login manager (say GDM)
[22:51] <brontosaurusrex> pil: in terminal i think 'su someotheruser'
[22:51] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see Monitor "Monitor0" and Device "Card0"
[22:52] <uRock> nico, what is the password problem?
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, first menu of livecd is text based - asks LiveCD or Install - press F6 to get "kernel options", enter to select them.
[22:52] <Linux> hello guys...what is that on YouTube with chromium? http://screenshooter.net/57176690/wniqxcn i cant click on "view more info"....
[22:52] <pil> ok
[22:52] <johnnyq_> hey guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize the belkin N150 wireless network card
[22:52] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: I never get to the first menu of the like CD.
[22:52] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: nothing like a line of numbers with 1024x768 in there ?
[22:52] <henkpoley> It usually says "Modeline: blah blah"
[22:52] <uRock> nico_, what is the password problem?
[22:53] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: I tried redownloading and making a new CD in case there was some issue with my copy too.
[22:53] <nico_> urock: it says that there is "no password supplied" when i try to change the password in this computer i am repairing
[22:53] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: not on the screen there might be some moer information i just don't know how to continue nfor more
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> SumoJim_, strange.  Afraid I don't have any other suggestions.  Good luck man.
[22:53] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see "allowemptyinput is on"
[22:53] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: you can use up and down keys
[22:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok updated and that did fix issue. I saw GPU lockup just fore the screen went to black/white blocks
[22:53] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: Alright, I'll try to just use a previous version of Ubuntu that I know to work then. Thanks.
[22:53] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: also [Enter] works, and page up/down too I believe
[22:53] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 correction did not
[22:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: Nvidia GeForce 9400M
[22:54] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: also 'f' is one page (f)orward
[22:54] <Iceman_B> when I install an hdd with an Ubuntu system + my files into another system which boots from another hdd, whats the quickest way to strip the old OS from the freshly added HDD ?
[22:54] <owen1> Dr_Willis: cpu - Intel Core 2 Duo (P7350)
[22:54] <Iceman_B> I simply want to be left with only my files on that drive
[22:54] <johnnyq_> hey guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize the belkin N150 wireless network card. it's connected to the laptop. any idea why it won't show up under ifconfig?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, what gfx card? "lspci | grep -i vga".
[22:54] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Sorry i have gotten alittle lost, I'm in the software source panel, but don't see any options other than uk server
[22:54] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I do see PCI ifnormation
[22:55] <owen1> Dr_Willis: I have to use live cd so i can replace the mac EFI with a BIOS.
[22:55] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: radeon mobility 91000igp rev 0
[22:55] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: hmm that's strange, take a screenshot
[22:55] <nico_> urock: any idea?
[22:55] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 Geforce GT220
[22:55] <owen1> Dr_Willis: it was xubuntu cd. i'll try ubuntu instead
[22:56] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, done
[22:56] <SumoJim_> ZykoticK9: Yup, Ubuntu 9.10 booted straight to live CD menu.... Strange. I'm suprised I'm the only one with this problem.
[22:56] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: under radeon driver for ATI radeon chipset i do see ati radeon 9000 ig \
[22:56] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: url?
[22:56] <XunZi_> what is the command to launch the disk management utility?
[22:56] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: well, sometimes the devices are so similar that the driver just reports one of the names
[22:57] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: i do see a lot of information nfor Radeon(0) assuming that is the default installed file
[22:57] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Where shall i put it?
[22:57] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: "default installed file" odd phrasing :P
[22:57] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, Pastebiun?
[22:57] <wildeja> pastebin? lol
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, have you tried installing the nvidia driver?
[22:57] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: you know what i mean
[22:57] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 not from the cli
[22:58] <denverdave> yet
[22:58] <Chetic> What's a good app to play around with my midi-keyboard?
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, i'd try current first "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[22:58] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 ok one min
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, after install you need to reboot, as it's a kernel module.
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> !screenshot | wildeja
[22:59] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 roger that reboot
[22:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: does it tell anything about displays it finds ?
[22:59] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: like the terms LVDS or TMDS
[23:00] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: you can change the mirror manually: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:00] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, http://imagebin.org/108668
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoly: output lvds has no monitor section
[23:01] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 OMG it came up to the desktop and did not freaking crash.. too freaking cool
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoly vga-0 using monitor section Monitor0\
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, nice
[23:01] <denverdave> gota love cli
[23:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: not LVDS too ?
[23:01] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I do see modeline's but those are all the diferent resolutions and then down further towards the end output lvds using initial mode 1280x800
[23:01] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: if so.. it tries to use the VGA output
[23:01] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 should I ever meet you.. the drinks are on me
[23:02] <Iceman_B> ilovefairuz: when I copy files over SSHFS, will the permissions/ownerships change? if so, how ?
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, ;)
[23:02] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: is that correct 1280x800 ?
[23:02] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: nope, usually run 1024x800
[23:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: do you have a screen to attach so we can test if it thinks the VGA port is the primary display ?
[23:03] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I have to go please add me on msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or I will be back in this chat in rougly two to three hours
[23:03] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: I'll be asleep then, damn Europeans huh :P
[23:04] <ilovefairuz> Iceman_B: they will be own by the user who fetched them
[23:04] <Iceman_B> ok
[23:04] <Wormfall_> henkpoley: I will then catch you maybe tomorrow.. thanks a lot!
[23:04] <henkpoley> Wormfall_: anyways, that VGA thing could be important, there are options to override it back to the internal LCD though
[23:04] <henkpoley> Ah missed him
[23:06] <nico_> please anyone have any ideas?
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> denverdave, may I PM you?
[23:07] <muelli> !details | nico_
[23:08] <nico_> already did that but can post again.
[23:08] <nico_> have kubuntu 8.10, can not change the password because when i do it comes back saying "no password supplied"
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> nico_:  and you are changeing it 'how' exactly? try it via the command line?
[23:09] <nico_> have to fix for a friend of mine
[23:09] <nico_> i was changing it through the about me in the system settings
[23:09] <nico_> how u change in command line
[23:09] <wildeja> ilovefairuz, WOW!, all i can say is WOW!, Thank you so much, Problem soleved!
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> nico_:  passwd command.
[23:10]  * Dr_Willis finds that 'me' menu to be rather problematic.
[23:10] <ilovefairuz> wildeja: you're welcome
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> bbl. off to the store.
[23:11] <nico_> dr_willis: in terminal do i type it just that way?
[23:11] <DIL> bring one back for me
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> nico_: yes
[23:12] <nico_> that did not work
[23:12] <nico_> it says command not found
[23:12] <aeon-ltd> nico_: did you make sure it wass 'passwd' its not a typo
[23:13] <nico_> yes
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> nico_: just 'passwd'
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> nico_: who are you logged in as?
[23:13] <henkpoley> heh, you really should have passwd.. :p
[23:14] <Rolotony> Why does it take so long to resolve hosts in 10.4?
[23:14] <henkpoley> nico_: try /usr/bin/passwd
[23:14] <tripel-livecd> New Ubuntu installation: partitioning drive: only ubuntu on drive: ext3: how much space for / and /home then the rest /data   ---  can I have the system on disk sdb ? windows is now on sba but I am going to remove that drive sometimes.
[23:14] <Rolotony> even when using an Ethernet cable it takes like 2minutes to resolve any website
[23:15] <henkpoley> Rolotony: the routers on your network tell your system ipv6 is available, but it doesn't route to the internet. I guess that's your problem
[23:15] <Rolotony> and I'm using Open DNS
[23:15] <sigmab3ta> hey guys, i am trying to build something from source, ./configure --help lists some things at the end under "some influential environment variables",  for example "LIBISOFS_LIBS", I would like to disable/enable some of those. how is that done?
[23:15] <Rolotony> oh my router supports ipv6
[23:15] <maco> Rolotony: opendns has AAAA records
[23:15] <Rolotony> sweet
[23:15] <henkpoley> Rolotony: yes but does your ISP do that too ?
[23:15] <nico_> thank you i got it changed. one more question how do you set up your video card and ensure the 3d is working?
[23:15] <tripel-livecd> I dont find the right information googling ubuntu hard drive allocation / /home
[23:16] <henkpoley> Rolotony: for mine I have to go through all kinds of hoops to use an ipv6 tunnel system that might have been a good idea in 2004 or so.
[23:16] <Chariblaze> If my new installation is telling me it's completing the installation on a BIOS type screen and has been like this for around two hours, should I just force a restart?
[23:16] <maco> tripel-livecd: by default ubuntu puts / and /home as all one partition because our installer has an option not to delete /home on reinstalls
[23:16] <tripel-livecd> How many gigs do I need for the Ubuntu OS partition.
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: whatever you like for / /home but for ubuntu an minimum of 8-10gb for / /home should be all remaining space
[23:16] <Rolotony> lol i don't have any options in my router for Ipv6
[23:16] <maco> tripel-livecd: i generally go for 10GB / and the rest /home on normal installs to give them room to grow, but as a developer needing debugging, development, and documentation packages, 15GB is better
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> it's nice for ubuntu related
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBB8zTdY4NU I don't know
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> how made it
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> but its nice
[23:17] <FloodBot2> Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:17] <Cazzzzzzzzzzzo21> for ubuntu.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBB8zTdY4NU
[23:17] <tripel-livecd> maco, aeon  I thought that /  and /home were separate things ??
[23:17] <maco> tripel-livecd: optionally
[23:17] <maco> tripel-livecd: you CAN put home on a separate partition, but you dont HAVE to
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: they are but everything can be put under /
[23:18] <tripel-livecd> maco thanks. I'll check on what I made.  - new drive is 1Terabyte so I thought I should put them separate.
[23:18] <tripel-livecd> ly
[23:18] <maco> tripel-livecd: /home is just a directory under /   ... you can choose to put it on a separate partition and mount that partition at /home if you want user data on a separate partition
[23:18] <henkpoley> Rolotony: you can disable ipv6 on ubuntu's side for now. Use the google to find out how.
[23:18] <Rolotony> It is disabled
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: its just nice to have /home so you can access it with different linux os partitions
[23:18] <Rolotony> thats the first thing i did
[23:19] <Iceman_B> how do I see the ID instead of the username owning a file/dir?
[23:19] <tripel-livecd> maco ok I would like a site/page to teach me so I have an allover understanding. Even a book reference.
[23:19] <Rolotony> so it can't be an ipv6 problem
[23:19] <henkpoley> Rolotony: ah well, then it's something different
[23:19] <henkpoley> ]
[23:19] <ritztech> whats the command to view a webpage Via linux CLI
[23:19] <maco> tripel-livecd: about the filesystem hierarchy standard?
[23:19] <maco> ritztech: w3m is the default text browser in ubuntu
[23:21] <tripel-livecd> aeon-ltd: explain that a little more.  But long ago and far away I used to be a programmer so I'd prefer a higher level thing, not a reference standard.  ((thinking of the "definition of Pascal" all on one page diagram. Elegant but not the best teaching tool.))
[23:21] <ritztech> you think i could bash with it .. hhaa
[23:21] <maco> tripel-livecd: there is a standard organisation for the system folderes in linux. thats the FHS
[23:21]  * tripel-livecd laffs at her conbination of experience and newness-dom.
[23:21] <ilovefairuz> haarp_: which nick?
[23:21] <erUSUL> ritztech: w3m ? lynx ? links ?
[23:21] <maco> tripel-livecd: it includes things like "user data goes in /home/*/"
[23:22] <tripel-livecd> maco I'll google those words and see.
[23:22] <aeon-ltd> tripel-livecd: you could mount the whole partitio if you'd like but /home separately means you can reinstall on / without affecting /home think of it as a non-offshore backup of your personal files
[23:22] <maco> tripel-livecd: and /etc being for config files, /var/log being where logs go, /usr/bin/ being where binaries for user software are (their corresponding libraries in /usr/lib/...)
[23:22] <maco> aeon-ltd: its still the same disk. not much of a backup
[23:23] <maco> aeon-ltd: and its still only one copy
[23:23] <maco> aeon-ltd: plus, ubuntu's installer has an option that doesnt overwrite directories named "home" when you reinstall
[23:23] <tripel-livecd> thanks guys maco aeon-ltd  because I am tired of asking questions and would like a deeper understanding. I've been at this install over a day on the partitioning a new disk end of things.
[23:23] <aeon-ltd> maco: really? wow ubuntu has changed alot since i used it
[23:24] <maco> aeon-ltd: in the manual install thing, you can choose to not format a partition before installing. that keeps /home
[23:24] <maco> aeon-ltd: er  manual partition thing, i mean
[23:25] <ritztech> hmm is there a way to pull data from a perl query that was on a web page im trying the w3m
[23:26] <maco> ritztech: i suspect you want to learn to use curl magic
[23:26] <denverdave> ZykoticK9 and crew.. thanks.. I am up and running and now playing with installing apps and learning this interface.. cuz I will have to support Ubuntu at work soon
[23:26] <denverdave> later
[23:27] <ritztech> curl majic haha
[23:27] <erUSUL> ritztech: wget or curl if you d not wont to view it
[23:27] <maco> tripel-livecd: ps, you said "her"?  do you know about the Ubuntu Women project?
[23:27] <maco> tripel-livecd: http://women.ubuntu.com
[23:27] <ritztech> well i want to view it but bash some output so its easier to view via CLI then web page
[23:28] <floating> friend is trying to get some libraries, but he has trouble getting it to the .bashrc... he tried  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the .bashrc, but his .bashrc is not executing
[23:29] <erUSUL> floating: putting . dot in a PATH variable is a bad idea...
[23:29] <tripel-livecd> One more thing maco aeon-ltd  - about "primary" (vs extended>logical) partitions. Must a disk have a primary. must the system be on a primary? do *I* need to make a partition for /boot?  -- I have old hard drives with data, saved things photos etc -- that I havent looked at for a while and I want to organize, sort and merge. Should these be on a separate partition?
[23:29] <maco> tripel-livecd: linux doesnt care if its on primary. windows does
[23:29] <gafir> hello, what program would you recommend to make loose diagrams / brainstorming?
[23:29] <floating> erUSUL: he tried to put some echo text in the .bashrc and that didin't work either
[23:30] <maco> gafir: i hear freemind is good
[23:30] <tripel-livecd> maco, why should women not be in the regular group? I'll go look at it.
[23:30] <erUSUL> floating: how he is testing the modifications ?? sourcing bashrc ? opening a new shell ?
[23:30] <floating> he connects with putty. relogins
[23:30] <floating> a user account, not admin
[23:31] <maco> tripel-livecd: its not separatist. there are members of UW on many of the major boards in ubuntu (i'm on a regional membership board), but it's a nice group to get support within the community
[23:31] <toni> alguien habla español
[23:31] <gafir> maco: I'll check it out thx
[23:31] <maco> !es | toni
[23:32] <ritztech> WHOA curl is NICE
[23:33] <wizzo50> Can you use NetFlex on Ubuntu?
[23:34] <wizzo50> sebsebseb
[23:34] <maco> wizzo50: netflix?
[23:34] <wizzo50> Yea
[23:34] <wizzo50> Mispelled, sorry
[23:34] <maco> wizzo50: the instant watch thing?  no. that has DRM--technology made to prevent "unauthorized" people from viewing (and they consider linux users unauthorized)
[23:34] <geazzy> halo
[23:35] <wizzo50> maco so i can't watch movies on here from it?
[23:35] <ritztech> seems like im gonna have to learn ALOT of AWK
[23:35] <ritztech> unless theres a better verion of curl
[23:35] <ritztech> haha
[23:35] <maco> wizzo50: if theyre on DVD sure, but not instant watch
[23:35] <wizzo50> maco No plug-ins or anything
[23:36] <hagabaka> ritztech: what do you need to do with awk and curl?
[23:36] <maco> wizzo50: the necessary plugin (moonlight, to replace microsoft's silverlight) exists.  however, you need a special encryption key to view netflix instant watch, and they only share that key with microsoft
[23:37] <wizzo50> maco/ Yea I know that, but didn't know if we can watch straight through them on here. Do they plan to set it up for that in the future?
[23:37] <LinuxPhreak> Does anyone know how I can setup PXE booting with an ISO image stored on a hostgator shared hosting account?
[23:37] <Iceman_B> if I'm setting up a new system and I want to be able to enforce quota's for users, how do I go about  it?
[23:37] <maco> wizzo50: ask netflix.  write to them and tell them DRM is evil
[23:37] <ritztech> im building a script to take some things out of a WEb page and doing llike Showing configuration files // Neighboring sites and Curling the output but then somehow grepping out lines that Match certiain words and such
[23:37] <hagabaka> oh
[23:38] <wizzo50> Maco, thanks anyway
[23:38] <hagabaka> I think a parser would be better for HTML/XML, but I don't know much about awk
[23:38] <tlarson> what's the command to find out what package a file was installed from?
[23:39] <hagabaka> tlarson: dpkg -S
[23:40] <steve__> ritztech, I cant really advise on what to use but I can say for sure that there must be a better option than awk/sed. I tried doing just that a couple of days ago and the result wasnt pretty!
[23:40] <tlarson> hagabaka: thanks
[23:40] <iceroot> tlarson: dpkg -S if the package is installed, apt-file if you want to search in packages which are not installed
[23:40] <ritztech> script is in bash so i basically want to CURL a site and get info out of what was from a query of a site taht the user generated from the CLI to query the site it self ... then display what i want to see as the output
[23:40] <erUSUL> ritztech: use w3m -dump to output plain text
[23:41] <maco> ritztech: i recommend python's xml.dom if you're parsing html. also, BeautifulSoup.py if the html isnt well-formed xml
[23:41] <ritztech> instead of bash
[23:41] <ritztech> use some sort of python script
[23:42] <steve__> erUSUL, Thanks for that! I will use that one in future!
[23:43] <erUSUL> steve__: no problem
[23:43] <Iceman_B> can I mount an entire hdd into an already existing and populated folder ?
[23:43] <Iceman_B> if so, what would happen? would all the files from the other hdd simply appear in the existing dir?
[23:44] <erUSUL> Iceman_B: yes; but the files witihng the folder would not be visible
[23:44] <Iceman_B> erUSUL: oh
[23:44] <tensorpudding> Iceman_B: unionfs
[23:44] <Iceman_B> tensorpudding: no clue what that is, but I'll look into it
[23:44] <live> bot
[23:44] <Iceman_B> maybe i should just create another dir and mount the drive there
[23:45] <erUSUL> Iceman_B: you will see the contents of the disk on the folder if any, the existing files will be inaccessible
[23:45] <trelayne> anyone know how to change the password from the command line?
[23:45] <tensorpudding> I think it allows you to have a filesystem mounted on top of another and have both of the files visible
[23:45] <erUSUL> trelayne: passwd
[23:45] <trelayne> ok thanks
[23:46] <suprengr> Assuming a lot of users are using xchat... question: what does the orange dot against a nick [in user list] mean?  No answer found on xchat help.
[23:46]  * Iceman_B uses irssi
[23:47] <chrOnik> irssi >
[23:47] <ubunt1> When I minimize a window its name gets brackets. Is there anyway to disable this?
[23:47] <tensorpudding> Probably not
[23:47] <erUSUL> suprengr: which user?
[23:47] <ubunt1> How can I set a shortcut to minimize all windows?
[23:48] <steve__> Does anyone have any good suggestions for a password management solution for ubuntu-server? I have been mounting a encrypted image of a filesystem onto /mnt. Its not very elegant - Any suggestions?
[23:48] <tensorpudding> There is already a Show Desktop button
[23:48] <live> learn
[23:48] <ubunt1> tensorpudding: I mean a keyboard shortcut.
[23:48] <erUSUL> suprengr: maybe it shows op / voice  ?
[23:49] <tensorpudding> Ctrl + Alt + d
[23:49] <live> where can I go to learn about IRC
[23:49] <ubunt1> live: Thanks!
[23:49] <erUSUL> !irc
[23:49] <suprengr> erUSUL: several [20ish] in #ubuntu beginners
[23:49] <erUSUL> suprengr: voice
[23:49] <live> !irc
[23:49] <suprengr> erUSUL: green blob seems to denote that
[23:50] <erUSUL> suprengr: then i dunno ;P i use irssi
[23:50] <kisplit> erUSUL: Do you know how to ignore joins and parts with irssi?
[23:51] <kisplit> erUSUL: They're really annoying on this channel :p
[23:51] <erUSUL> !quietirssi
[23:51] <kisplit> erUSUL: Thanks :)
[23:51] <erUSUL> !botsnack
[23:52] <chrOnik> i'v been messing and, on google for hours, lol can anyone help to get 1920x1080 with a ATi Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] my monitor supports this mode but its not showing :/
[23:53] <mxtr> edit xorg.conf
[23:53] <chrOnik> i did
[23:53] <suprengr> Iceman_B: just seen your line... "uses irssi",,, was that meant as answer to mine?  If so...   cheers & thanks
[23:53] <chrOnik> its showing 1920x1080 in there..
[23:54] <mxtr> make surge youve got the right driver installed
[23:54] <chrOnik> yeh tbh im not even sure what one i have
[23:54] <chrOnik> how can i find out mxtr ?
[23:54] <Iceman_B> suprengr: it kinda was, it was also me being smug :) dont mind, im using irssi because im running on a headless, GUIless machine
[23:55] <mxtr> see xorg.conf
[23:55] <mxtr> it must be in there
[23:55] <suprengr> Iceman_B:  :)
[23:55] <Karen_m> chrOnik, system->administration->hardware drivers (you can install the driver here, should be able to, I do it with nvidia)
[23:55] <floating> friend tries to execute a program through screen, but also he has to set some LD_LIBRARY_PATH with export. He uses .bash_profile file to do it, however the paths are not run when he does screen ./balle
[23:56] <mxtr> which version of ubuntu do you have?
[23:56] <chrOnik> im looking at xorg.conf now
[23:56] <chrOnik> want me to pastebin to see if u can find any faults?
[23:56] <erUSUL> floating: profile is only read on login
[23:56] <mxtr> yea you can
[23:56] <kisplit> Say I want to use the find command for a particular file and then grep that file for a particular phrase. Is this easy to do in one command stroke?
[23:56] <floating> erUSUL: ok. do you know how to do it
[23:57] <erUSUL> kisplit: bashrc ?
[23:57] <kisplit> erUSUL: I'm sorry, I'm fairly new. What is bashrc?
[23:57] <erUSUL> kisplit: find dir/ -name 'pattern' -exec grep pattern '{}' \;
[23:57] <chrOnik> here, http://pastebin.com/ec9ah1gu
[23:58] <floating> erUSUL: was that bashrc? directed to me ?
[23:58] <erUSUL> kisplit: ~/.bashrc ? ~/.profile
[23:58] <floating> ah ok :s
[23:58] <tensorpudding> bashrc is the configuration file for bash
[23:58] <kisplit> erUSUL: Ahhhh thanks again!
[23:58] <kisplit> tensorpudding: Thanks for the info too :)
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc is ranevery time you start up a new bash  shell Normally.
[23:58] <tensorpudding> read the manpage for more information on the difference between .bash_profile and .bashrc
[23:59] <tensorpudding> and /etc/profile also
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> I think by default its .profile   .bash_profile is emoptuy
[23:59] <kisplit> tensorpudding: man bash?
[23:59] <tensorpudding> yeah
[23:59] <floating> how can I export a ld_library_path when i run screen ./something
[23:59] <kisplit> gotcha got a lot of reading to do haha. I'll be back ;)
[23:59] <floating> so it is exported there.. exporting it during login in bash_profile won't do it