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 Can I ask for solution here?
 #lubuntu is the support channel (re @devilhere: Can I ask for solution here?)
 Okay
 Thanks
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[13:33] <RyuKurisu[m]> !support
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[21:01] <kc2bez> Hello yinz!
[21:01] <kc2bez> !standup
 o/
[21:01] <KGIII> Here.
[21:04] <wxl> here
[21:04] <wxl> prepared even, much wow
[21:04] <kc2bez> ack @Leokolb KGIII and wxl
[21:05] <kc2bez> @Leokolb lead us off.
 QA-testing -bit more emphasis on hardware - print/networking/scanning/bluetooth/audio/video
 also ran tests on @wxl rasp Pi4 post in discourse
 about it - done
[21:06] <kc2bez> Nice, thanks for that!
[21:06] <kc2bez> KGIII: How is it going for you?
[21:06] <KGIII> I have been exceptionally busy, still. I was hoping things would get squared away sooner, but they haven't. I haven't even had time to switch to 20.04. I haven't even had time to do any support. I have made the time to do daily live testing and I'll continue to make the time to do that - as I said I would at the start. I've had some personal impact with COVID (not me personally, lost two friends so far), which takes some of my tim
[21:06] <KGIII> e. Still, I'll make the time.
[21:06] <wxl> thanks @leo!
[21:07] <KGIII> (Also, 'done' - as that was everything.)
[21:07] <wxl> @KGIII: our condolences for your loss and many thanks for your help, no matter how big or small.
[21:07] <kc2bez> Sorry to read the sad news. Thanks for all your help KGIII
[21:08] <KGIII> Thanks. It sucks, but at least testing gives me a bit of distraction. And, you're certainly welcome.
[21:08] <wxl> oh i guess it's my turn huh? XD
[21:08] <kc2bez> wxl: go ahead
 @KGIII sorry to hear about yr friends
[21:08] <wxl> i'm going to do this in spurts because i have a rather long paste
[21:08] <wxl> * BUG TRIAGE
[21:08] <wxl>    * Commented on bug 1902497 and it needs `NotShowIn` ☹
[21:08] <wxl>    * Confirmed expired bug 1827415 but I can't figure out why
[21:08] <wxl>      * If anyone's got some good ideas, I'm all ears
[21:08] <wxl>      * Note I also found a problem in rDEFAULTSETTINGS with libfm and the terminal
[21:08] <wxl>    * Set bug 1910934 as incomplete
[21:08] <wxl>      * If anyone isn't annoyed by natural scrolling, might want to do long-term tests
[21:08] <wxl>    * Digging through old stuff, set bug 1864791 as incomplete
[21:09] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:09] <wxl>    * Commented on Qt6 port task; tl;dr not looking good
[21:09] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/T118#4062
[21:09] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:09] <wxl>    * Minor commits to rNEWREL README to add a links
[21:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Port LXQt to Qt 6: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T118#4062
[21:09] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNEWRELbf6c0b53618c5acbba96026fd5bef832ab49d856
[21:10] <wxl>  * UPSTREAM
[21:10] <wxl>    * There's now an upstream forum (GitHub Discussions); made pull request to fix website
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt.github.io/pull/54
[21:10] <wxl>    * Made some comments on two desktopify bugs to try to get SDDM behaving with Pi
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/issues/63#issuecomment-756956285
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/issues/19#issuecomment-756955440
[21:10] <wxl>    * Made pull request to remove Openbox config from lxqt-session
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/pull/359
[21:10] <wxl>  * DOCUMENTATION
[21:10] <wxl>    * Created doc about Raspberry Pi installation using Wimpy's desktopify
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/raspberry-pi-installation/2050
[21:10] <wxl>    * Started adding Documentation Team on Phab as editors of wiki docs
[21:10] <wxl>      * My thinking here is that this team could act as a wiki team as well
[21:10] <wxl>      * Added note on main wiki page to ask this team for edit access
[21:10] <wxl>      * I will add additional wiki docs as I go and ask admins to do the same (or better, use the API)
[21:10] <wxl>        * BTW admins do not inheriently have edit rights, so a custom policy needs to be created
[21:10] <wxl>    * Added RyuKurisu to the Documentation Team on Phab
[21:10] <wxl>      * Long ago, he was part of our wiki team
[21:10] <wxl>    * Started a FAQ on the wiki
[21:10] <wxl>      * https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/faq/
[21:10] <wxl>      * Feel free to add (but you'll need to be on the Documentation Team; just ask!)
[21:10] <wxl>    * Edited the main Lubuntu wiki page to direct to the manual and docs on Discourse
[21:11] <wxl>  * MISCELLANEOUS
[21:11] <wxl>    * Communicated with an artist interested in helping us out!
[21:11] <wxl>      * Hopefully we'll have a new Lenny and Calamares slideshow soon!
[21:11] <wxl>  * TESTING
[21:11] <wxl>  * INFRASTRUCTURE
[21:11] <wxl>    * Turned Discourse's tutorial bot into Lenny of Borg :)
[21:11] <wxl>    * Made a small change to part of the initial tutorial bot's welcome message:
[21:11] <wxl>      * --- we temporarily limit what new users can do.
[21:11] <wxl>        +++ we enable small, temporary limits on what new users can do that are easily circumvented.
[21:11] <wxl>    * Added a note to the support instructions page to make sure to go through the tutorial.
[21:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:11] <wxl> (see, i didn't do any testing, so glad ya'll did!)
[21:11] <wxl>  * TODO
[21:11] <wxl>    * Investigate/triage 1827415 some more.
[21:11] <wxl>    * Fix the bug with lubuntu settings regarding libfm config found in above.
[21:11] <wxl> also i need to finish my whole addition of the doc team to all the wiki pages
[21:11] <wxl> questions, comments, concerns?
[21:12] <KGIII> Man, you do a lot. Thanks!
 Wow
[21:12]  * The_LoudSpeaker doesn't have anything much to say. Was luckily awake ro see the notification.
[21:12] <wxl> i do when i'm motivated XD
[21:12] <wxl> OH
[21:12] <wxl> one more thing
[21:12] <wxl> i'm working on a script to check and see if we have any packages in our packageset that haven't merged
 I think discourse is looking real good as is the whole web site
[21:13] <wxl> yeah i think discourse is shaping up nicely
[21:13] <kc2bez> I agree
[21:13] <wxl> i clearly screwed up with regards to the website though :(
[21:13] <kc2bez> Thanks for all that wxl
[21:13] <kc2bez> It is ok
[21:14] <wxl> we had someone who was motivated about fixing it and i just dropped the ball :/
 big thanks wxl
[21:14] <kc2bez> also ack The_LoudSpeaker
[21:14] <wxl> we DO need to get our merges done soon
[21:14] <kc2bez> I know.
[21:14] <wxl> @tsimonq2 had, i think, taken that assignment but ?
[21:14] <kc2bez> yup
[21:15] <wxl> so after i'm done with this script, if he hasn't made any movement, i'll get started on it
[21:15] <kc2bez> Ok here is what I have, it touches on some of wxl 's
[21:15] <wxl> if anyone wants to learn packaging.............................................
[21:15] <kc2bez> * Tested pi installs using desktopify and wxl 's instructions on my 3b+
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I tested Lubuntu, Kubuntu, and Mate using the 20.04.1 server image after I added the `start_x=1` line. They all worked as they should.
[21:15] <kc2bez> * Following my tests I submitted a PR https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/pull/66
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I made a couple of minor tweaks to the wiki docs on discourse for the swapfile and the pi install.
[21:15] <kc2bez> * I amended the release notes re: the cala timezone issue for 20.04 and 20.04.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1904974
 I agree! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> yeah i think discourse is shaping up nicely)
[21:16] <wxl> oh nice
[21:16] <kc2bez> That and the regular support things
[21:16] <kc2bez> That is all I have this week.
[21:17] <wxl> right, i heard that
[21:17] <wxl> thanks again dan
[21:17]  * kc2bez bows
[21:17] <kc2bez> np
 thanks dan
[21:17] <wxl> ok any other questions comments or concerns
[21:17] <wxl> ?
[21:18] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone!
[21:18] <KGIII> Why isn't there any real reference/links to the support sites once the OS is installed?
[21:18] <wxl> hm that's an interesting question
[21:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Point me the to list when you have the script. Merges are small and me needs to revise stuff. 😛
[21:18] <wxl> do any other flavors do something similar?
[21:19] <wxl> or even any other distro?
[21:19] <kc2bez> Most have welcome screens :/
[21:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, Thanks everyone! 🍻🍻
[21:19] <KGIII> I know things like Mint have a popup when you boot with links and stuff like that.
 a link to support sites under Preferences would be nice
[21:19] <kc2bez> Fedora puts a bunch of bookmarks in FireFox
[21:19] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: you can start with the four packages mentioned here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] deal with merges: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185
[21:20] <wxl> oh the bookmarks are a stupid simple idea
[21:20] <KGIII> I was thinking that it could be added to the about panel, maybe.
[21:20] <KGIII> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-about/blob/master/aboutdialog/lxqtaboutdialog.cpp
[21:20] <wxl> we did have the beginnings of a welcome center, which i think is like what mint has https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/welcome/
 around here, global support, there is more and more movement in the channels, especially in Italian
[21:20] <kc2bez> Nice!
[21:20] <wxl> that's what we like to hear @N0um3n0!!!!
 ;)
[21:21] <kc2bez> I got a little stuck with the welcome center.
[21:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> Arghhh!! Why doesn't phab have a dark mode. My eyes hurt with all the bright background. teward get us a good dark mode for phab. XD
[21:21] <wxl> can someone make a task about the general idea and include some of this ideas?
[21:21] <wxl> i would say the big ones are:
[21:21] <wxl>  1. firefox bookmarks
[21:22] <wxl>  2. an *about lubuntu* desktop entry
[21:22] <wxl>  3. welcome center (which is a much bigger project)
[21:22] <wxl> i imagine we could create a pyqt pop up for the about lubuntu really easily
[21:22] <wxl> alternately we could use kdialog
[21:23] <wxl> since others had suggested having kdialog included in the install, that would also fulfill that desire
[21:23] <kc2bez> Here is the welcome task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Write a Welcome Center: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17
[21:23] <wxl> kdialog is SO simple
[21:23] <wxl> kc2bez: yeah i'm thinking more of a parent one where that's a subtask
[21:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> Firefox bookmarks is really stupid simple idea but works like a charm.
[21:23] <kc2bez> Right just to reference in the parent task
[21:24] <wxl> yeah the firefox bookmarks could be done in rDEFAULTSETTINGS
[21:24] <teward> go build one @The_LoudSpeaker
[21:24] <teward> there is none by default
[21:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Mah favourite repo in all phab.
[21:24] <teward> and i aint gonna make a theme for you lol
[21:25]  * The_LoudSpeaker slides a cup of coffee to teward
[21:25] <teward> now lemme rest I has a migraine
[21:25] <wxl> https://discourse.phabricator-community.org/t/dark-mode-experiment/60
[21:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> How about now?
[21:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[21:25] <teward> how about ERR:MIGRAINEHEADACHE_RESTREQUIRES
[21:25]  * genii drinks teward's untouched coffee
[21:26] <kc2bez> You can enable dark mode but yeah experimental.
[21:26] <kc2bez> Code blocks look janky.
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup.
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> I use a extension on desktop. But on phone it's a nightmare.
[21:27] <wxl> eh they don't look horrible
[21:27] <wxl> i love how dark mode is actually still blue XD
[21:27] <teward> its Midnight xD
[21:27] <wxl> anywho
[21:27] <kc2bez> It is usable, i agree
[21:27] <teward> but meh.  rest time for me for a bit
[21:28] <wxl> night night
[21:28] <kc2bez> Yup, I need to go AFK too, ping me if you need me.
[21:28] <wxl> k thx ya'll
[21:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> Gn everyone! See y'all later.
[21:28] <KGIII> Thanks, all.
 Thanks all ..
 Great team!!! Thanks
[21:29] <wxl> dude dark reader ftw
[21:29] <KGIII> I'll look forward to seeing how y'all add the support links.
[21:29] <KGIII> Dark Reader is pretty awesome.
[21:30] <KGIII> There's also Sauron that does similar.
[21:30] <wxl> ok i've got a phone call to make but ping if anyone needs anything
[21:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup dark reader is what I use on desktop. Just installed on phone too now.
[22:30] <guiverc> Sorry folks for missing the meeting  (just noticed & read back)
[22:31] <wxl> np :)
[23:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> <KGIII "I have been exceptionally busy, "> Sorry to hear about your loss 😔
[23:37] <RyuKurisu[m]> <The_LoudSpeaker "Arghhh!! Why doesn't phab have a"> Try DarkReader for Firefox, also works on mobile 😊


[11:02] <Iamthehuman1> uhhh... Yakuake just started disappearing if the mouse leaves it. I have "focus follows mouse", but this hasn't been happening before
[11:03] <Iamthehuman1> I have more specific details: If the mouse moves from Yakuake over a normal window, the Yakuake disappears, if the mouse moves over desktop, it does not disappear.
[11:04] <Iamthehuman1> this doesn't make much sense, I didn't touch settings except removed a program from autostart recently
[11:06] <Iamthehuman1> dis is not cool, stuff breaking by itself always gives me the creeps, needs more tripwire
[11:07] <Iamthehuman1> 'sudo chkrootkit' found nothing, that's always nice
[11:08] <Iamthehuman1> so ok, back to assuming bonafide accidental negative interaction of software
[11:12] <Iamthehuman1> Found it: Someone or some thing had removed the tick from the checkbox at 'Yakuake menu -> Keep menu open when it loses focus' ... twasn't me
[11:12] <Iamthehuman1> actually it just disappeared for a 2nd time just now... readded, will see what happens
[20:02] <anthony1> hello anyone there. I have a issue with a mixing static problem
[20:08] <anthony1> hello
[20:10] <anthony1> I just installed ubuntu studio on a lenovo 5 flex laptop.
[20:10] <anthony1> There is a large amount of mixing distortion communing from the jack audio server.
[20:10] <anthony1> The card within the alsamixer is recognized as Realtek ALC257
[20:11] <anthony1> ubuntu studio brige is set for pulse out.
[20:12] <anthony1> The browser plays audio fine. One particular interest is that the pulse audio volumne has to be set very low for no distortion to occur through programs such as firefox
[20:12] <anthony1> Yet tweaking all of the volumne levels for the audio interface does not seem to change the distortion output.
[20:13] <anthony1> That is it is distorted even at low volume
[20:13] <anthony1> there are two basic controls which appear to operate the volume within the mixer
[20:13] <anthony1> master and pga 1 0 master


[03:03] <jcjordyn120> i have a idea on the ubiquitty installer, I would like to be able to specify multible mount points on the custom partition screen
[04:48] <pitti> Good morning
[07:10] <spineau> doko: hello, I've proposed a patch to solve the update issues with plainbox-provider-resource-generic (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plainbox-provider-resource-generic/+bug/1493356) that with have on some arch.
[07:27] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <zzarr> hello! I installed ubuntu-lxc on a computer running Wily today, but it hangs on login, it seams to be a common problem, is there a solution?
[07:43] <zzarr> ohh, my bad, the package is called unity8-lxc
[09:02] <pitti> Laney, slangasek: do you understand dracut on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt ?
[09:02] <pitti> Laney, slangasek: we fixed kbd and console-setup yesterday, and now in a wily-proposed chroot "apt-get install dracut-config-generic dracut dracut-config-rescue" works
[09:03] <pitti> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:03] <pitti>   initramfs-tools mountall plymouth upstart
[09:03] <pitti> is it somehow complaining about that?
[09:03] <pitti> doko: ^ FYI
[09:03] <pitti> or does this need some hinting?
[09:05] <Laney> pitti: seems to be http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12319635/
[09:05] <Laney> is there a matchin upload
[09:05] <Laney> matching upload* of initramfs-tools or something?
[09:05] <pitti> Laney: no, we are actually ahead of debian
[09:06] <pitti> Laney: yes, dracut does conflict to initramfs-tools, you can only have one provider of it
[09:06] <pitti> "it" == linux-initramfs-tool
[09:06] <pitti> Laney: i-t is Priority: important, is it due to that?
[09:06] <Laney> so it's a chain from those packages I listed in the intstall line
[09:07] <pitti> Laney: hm, console-setup and kbd got fixed already
[09:07] <pitti> to depend on i-t | l-i-t
[09:09] <pitti> Laney: ah, kbd hasn't made it yet: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kbd
[09:10] <pitti> boot test stuck since yesterday, argh -- /me pokes
[09:10] <pitti> Laney: so I guess that's why
[09:10] <Laney> yes, it's kbd
[09:10] <Laney> If the autohinter doesn't figure this out you can add an easy hint for it
[09:11] <pitti> Laney: I cancelled the boottest (running for 21h), I give it another chance, and if it hangs again I'll force kbd
[09:11] <pitti> then let's see whether that suffices
[09:11] <pitti> Laney: thansk!
[09:13] <doko> jamespage, there are test failures for python-pyeclib on powerpc
[09:13] <Laney> pitti: I wrote https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-archive-tools/update-output-helper/+merge/267970 a few weeks ago to make it a bit easier to debug these things btw
[09:13] <Laney> might be useful to have around
[09:13] <jamespage> doko, yes I know - and I am trying to resolve them
[09:13] <Laney> its current interface needs work but it's still helpful
[09:19] <doko> Laney, norwegian dep-wait (desktop)
[09:19] <Laney> what are you talking about?
[09:19] <doko> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/norwegian/2.0.10-7
[09:20] <darkxst> hey Laney pitti
[09:22] <pitti> sitter, Riddell: FYI, kwin tests regressed, so yesterday's KDE updates are stuck
[09:23] <Riddell> uh oh
[09:41] <Riddell> pitti: upstream says he knows and is working on how to fix the test rather than the code so I'll set it to ignore, do you know if I should use force-badtest or force-skiptest or both?
[09:41] <pitti> Riddell: I'd use force-badtest on that specific kwin version here
[09:41] <pitti> Riddell: that will unblock the packages that fail on the kwin reverse dependency too
[09:42] <pitti> Riddell: skiptest> unblock only that very package, regardless of hwo many test failures it triggered
[09:42] <pitti> Riddell: badtest> skip that particular test result, for any proposed package that triggers it
[09:42] <Laney> doko: it's going to fail to build anyway: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794152
[09:42] <Riddell> pitti: thanks
[09:42] <Laney> let's just leave it
[09:43] <Laney> hey darkxst
[09:44] <doko> Laney, then I ftbfs issue would at least document it
[09:44] <Mirv> powerpc chroot problem on fisher01 https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-012/+build/7889605
[09:45] <doko> given back
[09:48] <Riddell> pitti: do you know what's up here? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/debconf-kde/wily/ppc64el/
[09:48] <Laney> doko: component mismatch too
[09:49] <Laney> no point sorting that out if it won't work anyway
[09:53] <pitti> Riddell: "Temporary failure resolving 'ports.ubuntu.com'
[09:53] <pitti> Riddell: I'll retry
[09:53] <pitti> Riddell: i. e. that was already my retry from this morning's combing of excuses.html, apparently it needs retrying harder :)
[09:53] <Laney> I've seen a fair few of those lately
[09:54] <pitti> yeah, not sure what's up with those wolfe boxes
[09:54] <pitti> cjwatson: ^ wrt that, your last LP status report (thanks for that!) made me hopeful that ppc64el in scalingstack might be a thing RSN?
[09:59] <cjwatson> pitti: It's in the production testing phase, and needs some bits redeployed cleanly, but otherwise almost there
[09:59] <pitti> yay!
[10:04] <pitti> Riddell: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/debconf-kde/wily/ppc64el/ green again
[10:41] <Riddell> pitti: lovely
[12:31] <jamespage> doko, pyeclib fixed....
[13:20] <mdeslaur> slangasek: still no new edk2 in unstable?
[13:47] <morphis> mterry: ping
[13:48] <mterry> morphis, hello
[13:48] <mterry> I mean pong  :)
[13:48] <morphis> mterry: hey!
[13:48] <morphis> regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1492441
[13:48] <morphis> can you check if you have the hidp kernel module loaded?
[13:49] <mterry> morphis, ok
[13:50] <mterry> $ lsmod | grep hidp
[13:50] <mterry> hidp                   24576  0
[13:50] <mterry> hid                   118784  1 hidp
[13:50] <mterry> bluetooth             507904  30 bnep,hidp,btbcm,btrtl,btusb,rfcomm,btintel
[13:50] <mterry> morphis, ^
[13:50] <morphis> ok
[14:00] <mterry> doko, man you're killing me with bug 1493037.  like 40 packages
[14:01] <doko> mterry, that's why I'm filing it myself ;-P
[14:01] <mterry> heh
[14:10] <hallyn> gah.  it's a FAIL any time a dist-upgrade resets my xmodmap
[14:53] <morphis> bdmurray_: thanks!
[14:55] <bdmurray> morphis: no problem
[14:55] <doko> jamespage, python-oslo.service b-d's on routes, which is missing a MIR
[14:55] <jamespage> doko, should be just a binary only promotion I think
[14:55] <jamespage> routs is in main
[14:58] <doko> ok, done
[15:02] <jamespage> doko, ta
[15:18] <Teduardo> Howdy, does anyone know when Ubuntu will release a sendmail package that allows you to mitigate the logjam issue?
[15:23] <mdeslaur> Teduardo: do the instructions here not work? https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html
[15:24] <slangasek> mdeslaur: no, edk2 still stuck in the Debian NEW queue
[15:28] <Teduardo> is there any way to contact a packager for a ubuntu package?
[15:32] <rbasak> Teduardo: packages in Ubuntu are team maintained. Try the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailing list, or file a bug if it's an actionable item.
[15:45] <jpds> Teduardo: Also, postfix and exim4 seem to be the MTAs in main
[18:44] <jrwren> I wish there were links from packages.ubuntu.com to the source on lp
[18:45] <jrwren> oh, the bug reports link is close enough, nevermind me.
[18:49] <sarnold> jrwren: it's nice to have an lpsrc keyword search in firefox: "https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/%s"
[18:50] <sarnold> jrwren: then you just open e.g. lpsrc apparmor to get right to the apparmor package
[18:52] <tarpman> I like pad.lv. → http://pad.lv/u/firefox
[18:56] <jrwren> sarnold: I need that, for sure.
[18:57] <jrwren> sarnold: i just learned duckduckgo has !lp search for launchpad. so close!
[19:00] <sladen> and yet, 10 years on  bugs.launchpad.net/NNNN  still doesn't work
[19:00] <sarnold> jrwren: hah! nice. with a ddg search provider for firefox then that'd just be ddg !lp foo   :)
[19:01] <sarnold> jrwren: I've got a 'ubug' for that, too, http://launchpad.net/bugs/%s
[19:01] <sarnold> jrwren: it's a nice complement to 'dbug' http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%s
[19:03] <tarpman> sarnold: bugs.debian.org/%s ;)
[19:03] <sarnold> tarpman: if only changing firefox search keywords wasn't a pain in the ass...
[19:56] <slangasek> mdeslaur: edk2 unblocked in Debian NEW, so should be syncable to wily shortly
[19:56] <slangasek> ("shortly" == "next 24 hours")
[19:56] <mdeslaur> slangasek: ah, great, thanks
[21:35] <ScottK> sladen: pad.lv/NNNNNN does work.
[21:36] <sladen> ScottK: yes.  I was not questioning that ;-)
[21:37] <ScottK> K.
[21:47] <lifeless> barry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/testtools/+bug/1488710 <- see my comment please
[21:48] <barry> lifeless: not sure what you mean by "namespaced"
[21:49] <lifeless> barry: ubuntu-ftbfs or something
[21:49] <lifeless> barry: since its not a ftbfs for anyone else atm
[21:49] <barry> too bad you can't tag bugtasks
[21:50] <lifeless> barry: yes, the its-not-quite-federated data model is a significant limiter here
[21:51] <barry> lifeless: i just removed the tags.  cjwatson's fix gets me almost all the way there.  still two failures; one i have fixed the other not so much yet
[21:52] <lifeless> barry: oh?
[21:52] <barry> lifeless: yep.  the odd one is test_run_list_failed_import
[21:52] <barry> it doesn't raise SystemExit
[21:54] <lifeless> barry: have you put a patch up for the other ?
[21:55] <barry> lifeless: not yet, i want to get it passing first and then i'll comment and/or submit a patch
[21:56] <barry> lifeless: i think i also need to dup #150 to #149
[21:57] <lifeless> done
[21:57] <barry> thx
[21:59] <barry> lifeless: in the meantime, this is the other patch i needed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12324069/
[22:01] <barry> lifeless: and the last one i'm hunting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12324090/
[22:03] <lifeless> we're getting a valueerror there?!
[22:04] <lifeless> I'd want to see where thats coming from - it may indicate a deeper problem
[22:04] <barry> lifeless: yes
[22:05] <barry> lifeless: but right now testtools is blocking several other packages so i'm just trying on bandaids that aren't too ugly
[22:05] <lifeless> barry: hang on, what version of testtools is this?
[22:05] <lifeless> that pastebin patches a test tht we don't have in that file...
[22:06] <barry> lifeless: ha.  1.4.0.  i guess that's old.
[22:06] <lifeless> barry: ahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaa]
[22:06] <lifeless> barry: yes. 1.8.0 is current
[22:06] <barry> lifeless: yay for ubuntu deltas :(
[22:06] <lifeless> barry: its not that old - nov last year
[22:06] <barry> and 1.8.0 is in experimental only right now
[22:07] <barry> lifeless: so maybe bandaiding isn't horrible for wily.  we'll definitely sync up again in x.  or should i push through an ffe and try to get 1.8.0 in from experimental?
[22:09] <lifeless> https://github.com/testing-cabal/testtools/compare/testtools-1.4.0...1.8.0
[22:10] <lifeless> so 1.6.0 is when we fixed up all the cruft and started depending on unittest2
[22:10] <lifeless> honestly, nothing is super critical
[22:10] <lifeless> devs are going to pip install anyhow
[22:10] <lifeless> so if 1.4.0 is whats needed for other things packaged in Ubuntu, thats fine
[22:11] <lifeless> there's no security issues that I can see
[22:11] <barry> lifeless: yeah, it's just a matter of bureaucracy ;/
[22:12] <barry> well, i think i'll spend a little more time trying to fix this, and if i get lucky, i'll just upload fixes to ubuntu to unblock everything else.  maybe by the time we sync for x, upstream will release a fixed version
[22:17] <lifeless> barry: heh, upstream works fine on 3.5 and 3.6 already
[22:18] <barry> lifeless: excellent
[22:18] <lifeless> barry: the only issue upstream has is the twisted version
[22:18] <lifeless> barry: and that cjwatson's patch will fix - its in fine tuning mode atm
[22:18] <barry> lifeless: ack
[22:19] <barry> lifeless: can you tell me what that test is supposed to do?
[22:23] <lifeless> barry: the one in your pastebin ?
[22:23] <barry> lifeless: yeah, the one that's still failing.  i *think* i know but it's very difficult to debug why it's not failing in the expected way
[22:24] <lifeless> barry: so prior to 1.6.0 we had code to handle python2's broken handling of non-text .py files
[22:25] <lifeless> barry: that test tests that such a file errors as either a TypeError or SyntaxError. I'm not sure why TypeError is considered valid
[22:25] <lifeless> barry: the test (and the code) is gone in 1.6, because we now use the rolling backport of linecache, which includes patches for tokenize, so it all just works
[22:26] <lifeless> barry: and we have text strings in the line cache, or None, consistently
[22:27] <lifeless> (git diff testtools-1.5.0 testtools-1.6.0 in the source tree will let you see this)
[22:27] <barry> lifeless: is it possible that py 2.7.10 may have changed in a way that causes this test to not error?
[22:27] <barry> lifeless: since i'm guess you never ran 1.4.0 against 2.7.10
[22:30] <lifeless> barry: hmm, I can't see anything trawling through hg
[22:30] <lifeless> barry: though I'm not happy with the issue 23838 patch :)
[22:30] <lifeless> but thats entirely different :>
[22:31] <barry> lifeless: yeah me neither going thru Misc/NEWS
[22:31] <barry> :)
[22:32] <barry> lifeless: since this test goes away in 1.8.0 would i make you puke on your keyboard if i just disabled it in 1.4.0 in wily?
[22:32] <barry> though i'm willing to do a bit more debugging, i want to unblock the other packages.  i know it's horrible
[22:34] <lifeless> barry: I think disabling it is probably fine, I very much doubt that other folk deliberately test with broken binary .py files in their tree
[22:34] <lifeless> we had the test because someone somewhere had that happen to them and testtools blew up
[22:35] <lifeless> so we wanted to blow up in a way that exposed the issue they had, not our innards
[22:35] <barry> lifeless: ack and thanks.  if i can't figure it out by the dinner bell, that's probably what i'll do
[22:35] <lifeless> it would be better to migrate to 1.6.0+, but I appreciate your position
[22:37] <lifeless> (and won't give you grief about it :))
[22:48] <cjwatson> lifeless: sorry, I had to sidetrack into other things, I shall get back to that branch before the end of the week
[22:48] <cjwatson> lifeless: I think I would appreciate it if a testtools developer could file the bug against twisted though, because otherwise I can foresee myself getting into playing telephone-game between two sets of developers and that seems less than ideally productive
[22:51] <lifeless> cjwatson: yup, I shall do that. That comment was mainly what-do-people-thing
[22:51] <lifeless> think
[22:52] <cjwatson> Thanks.  Since they seem to be trending away from exposing what testtools needs, probably good to let them know that somebody cares
[22:55] <lifeless> what I should do
[22:55] <lifeless> is submit a patch to their CI system to cross-test
[22:55] <lifeless> :)
[22:57] <cjwatson> lifeless: PR up to date now I think
[22:58] <cjwatson> Disentangling stuff in LP so that we can upgrade is still an open project :-/
[23:00] <lifeless> thank you


[00:03] <tsimonq2> oh jeez I'm sorry
[00:03]  * tsimonq2 looks one more time
[00:06] <tsimonq2> seems good to go :)
[00:06] <pleia2> thanks :)
[01:12] <pleia2> time got away from me with the holiday, will publish when I get back from dinner
[03:31] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 480 for the week August 29 - September 4, 2016 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue480
[14:54] <svij> howdy
[14:55] <svij> I've a ubucon europe announcement coming up in a bit, I guess we/you can publish that on fridge?
[15:39] <pleia2> svij: yep, just send an email to the ubuntu-news-team mailing list with the exact text you want us to post
[15:39] <svij> pleia2: alright, thanks :)
[15:39] <pleia2> Subject: should be the the title of the article you want
[18:50] <svij> pleia2: done
[18:50] <pleia2> thanks, put in my queue of things to do :)
[18:50] <svij> great, thanks :)


[16:35] <dg00735> Hi guys a question from root I can not change untente me by this error Segmentation error (core dumped) thank you very much


[06:34] <silidan1> apw: hi, did you get the link to the wireshark file i posted yesterday?
[10:06] <silidan1> apw: hi, did you get the link to the wireshark file i posted yesterday?
[10:15] <apw> silidan1, i saw the link go by yes
[10:46] <silidan2> apw: hi, did you get the link to the wireshark file i posted yesterday?
[10:46] <apw> silidan2, yes i saw the link go by
[10:47] <silidan2> apw: did you have the chance to look at the URBs?
[10:47] <apw> silidan2, no
[10:48] <silidan2> apw: ok, let me know when you got the chance to look at em and if it gave you new insights..
[10:48] <silidan2> apw: should i let the camera manufacturer know about this channel?
[10:49] <apw> silidan2, it is a public channel
[10:50] <apw> silidan2, if they have insite beyond "we think it is the kernel" then by all means
[10:52] <apw> people blame the kernel all the time as an opaque box so it must be to blame, ignoring the fact it is just a program and the source is available
[10:52] <apw> which is more than the source for their app is
[10:53] <silidan2> apw: ok, i wrote them an email about this channel.
[10:54] <silidan2> apw: yea, i got the impression so far that their communication was very "word effective"
[10:56] <silidan2> apw: but since my programming skills seem to be rather basic, and i havent done some serious Linux development yet, i cant really say im in a position to argue...
[10:57] <silidan2> apw: so far i at least want to thank your for putting so much effort from you into this
[10:59] <apw> silidan2, you said from this you could see the data size, where are you seeing that
[11:01] <apw> silidan2, i only see small control messages, so either i hav eth wrong trace, or i am using wireshark wrong
[11:01] <apw> silidan2, oh no it changes after a heck of a lot of control messages, odd
[11:02] <silidan2> apw: when you scroll down to the packages with info "URB_BULK in", the length shows "61504", when you expand the detailed view of one of these URBs, you scroll down to "Data Length", it shows "61440"
[11:02] <apw> and how long are they on windows ?
[11:03] <silidan2> apw: on windows they are about 300kB
[11:03] <silidan2> apw: the Data Length is exactly 300kB, the URB itself a bit larger
[11:04] <apw> silidan2, do you have that trace as well for me
[11:04] <silidan2> apw: yea, but it currently resides on another machine... ill get it
[11:05] <silidan2> apw: oh i found a selection of the interesting part during image transfer.. ill send that first
[11:05] <apw> silidan2, sounds fine
[11:06] <apw> i only want to look at a in out BULK pair anyhow
[11:06] <silidan2> apw: here it is: http://wikisend.com/download/522674/usbcap_winxp_asi120mc_selection.pcapng
[11:07] <silidan2> apw: there arent in out pairs in windows... thats another difference...
[11:08] <apw> silidan2, i need to see the first one then
[11:09] <silidan2> apw: ok ill make a new complete capture then with the enumeration on this machine here... ill be off some minutes
[11:09] <apw> silidan2, as you say windows version is asking for some kind of continuous mode, and they are not in linux
[11:25] <silidan> apw: ok im currently uploading it, it takes some time, its about 60 megabyte...
[11:25] <silidan> apw: if you wrote something after i send my last message pls repeat
[11:26] <apw> > silidan2, as you say windows version is asking for some kind of continuous mode, and they are not in linux
[11:28] <silidan> apw: the question then is if they do not do this because libusb doesnt allow it, or ?
[11:28] <apw> that sounds like a question for them, but lets see the first request
[11:28] <silidan> apw: damn slow line here... 12 minutes to go...
[11:28] <apw> and see what that looks like
[11:35] <silidan> apw: besides building with debug symbols and using gdb, is there another way to trace all calls beeing made during the runtime of an application, so eg app calls liba, liba calls libb, libb calls libc and so on?
[11:36] <apw> silidan, mostly gdb can give you some idea i fyou have the symbols installed
[11:37] <apw> debug packages installed, that said, really your vendor should sort this out
[11:37] <apw> or they should take hte thing back
[11:39] <silidan> apw: ok here we go: http://wikisend.com/download/848572/winxp_asi120_capture.pcap
[11:43] <silidan> apw: yea sure i was just asking genrally, maybe i overlooked something, so far i learned only about strace and ltrace.. besides the source dependent gdb approach
[11:48] <apw> silidan, well all we can see in this trace is unspecified control meesages sent and then the device starts sending unsolicited continuous data
[11:49] <apw> silidan, in linux they ask first and keep asking, so this seems most likely a difference in the way they are
[11:49] <apw> asking for the data, at the userspace level, at a level we have no visibility for
[11:51] <apw> silidan, and the needing to ask for each block would clearly add huge latency and likely is the cause of your 1/3 performance
[11:51] <silidan> apw: yea they told me they wrote the windows driver themselves, and on linux they used libusb...
[11:52] <apw> silidan, in my opinion this is not something the kernle is doing
[11:52] <apw> i think this is a differnce in the mode they are slecting at the device, and likely that is a libusb or higher hting
[11:53] <silidan> apw: there is maybe somthing else: i recently made a capture of a large filetransfer to a usb harddrive (usb3.0 harddrive over usb2.0 bus) and there i saw the same bulk package length of about 60kB
[11:53] <silidan> apw: at least here on linux...
[12:01] <silidan> apw: what i mean is i never saw any URB on linuy that was larger than about 60kB
[12:13] <apw> silidan, right but a disk is different you are doing random IO to it, so you have to ask for things individually to address the sector
[12:16] <silidan> apw: sure, maybe im just mixing up USB bulk transfer size limits (i think it was 4MB) with URB size...
[12:21] <silidan> apw: is there maybe a limit to the read() write() system calls in linux?
[12:36] <apw> silidan, they arn't using those as far as i can see, i think they are mmaping data into the kernel for direct access
[12:36] <apw> silidan, and IO sizes are defined by the media in the main, and cirtinaly multi megabyte io is possible
[12:37] <apw> they could just let us read their source, you know, so we know what they are doing
[12:39] <silidan> apw: ok, so we can for now conclude this with the statement: you doubt that it is a kernel thing, to be sure you need to see the sources of their sdk.
[12:45] <silidan> apw: and again i want to thank you for your time and patience, i will relay this to the manufacturer, maybe they will contact you here
[13:11] <silidan> apw: you may also want to keep in mind that this manufacturer is based in china and thus they are at UTC +8:00, so quite some time difference, are you maybe also reachable via a mailing list?
[13:12] <apw> they will find me here i am sure, we overlap quite some hours
[13:13] <silidan> apw: ok
[15:43] <rtg> kees, can you comment on bug #1499089 ? Is X86_LEGACY_VM86 no longer a vulnerability in 4.2/4.3 ?
[16:40] <rtg> kamal, Ted Tso requested 2 patches for 3.18 (0f2af21aae1197, 94426f4b964815). You've only applied 0f2af21aae1197 to 3.19. Why not the second ? Both are v4.1-rc2 commits.
[17:06] <kamal> rtg, I applied the first patch to 3.19 because its indicated as a CVE fixer (but neither is marked cc: stable, hence the second did not get applied).  Point me at Ted's request?
[17:07] <rtg> kamal, on the stable list, subject is 'Please apply these two patches to the 3.18 stable branch'
[17:12] <kamal> rtg, yeah, okay I'll pick it up also and cram it into the imminent (tomorrow) 3.19-stable release.
[17:12] <rtg> kamal, ack
[17:12] <kamal> henrix, this probably needs to be applied to 3.16 also (like me, you've got the first but not the second -- you need:
[17:13] <kamal> 94426f4 ext4: fix loss of delalloc extent info in ext4_zero_range()
[17:13] <kamal> (probably :-)
[17:19] <kees> rtg: my head is still spinning from the threads on that. I think nothing needs X86_LEGACY_VM86 any more though
[17:19] <rtg> kees, it does seem like just a performance optimization
[17:39] <henrix> kamal: ack, i'll check.  thanks
[19:32] <rtg> apw, linux-raspi2 published finally, tools and all


[06:27] <pavlushka> o/ all
[06:46] <theblazehen> hi pavlushka
[06:53] <pavlushka> hi theblazehen !!
[06:58] <pavlushka> hi, is it actually the-blaze-hen? theblazehen !
[06:59] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Yup!
[07:00] <pavlushka> and hen means? (to my knowledge hen = fowl)
[07:01] <pavlushka> lol
[07:01] <theblazehen> Part of surname (Henderson), after I forgot my password to my theblaze accounts
[07:01] <pavlushka> sorry, no offense
[07:02] <pavlushka> theblazehen, So, how are you today?
[07:03] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Pretty decent, and you?
[07:03] <pavlushka> looks like not very decent, but good, thanks
[07:04] <pavlushka> about me, looks like not very decent, but good, thanks
[07:04] <theblazehen> How exactly do you mean?
[07:06] <pavlushka> theblazehen, that I made fun with your surname, but mistakenly, Henderson sounds strong to me.
[07:07] <theblazehen> Ah, no that was cool. Was wondering about the "looks like not very decent, but good"
[07:08] <pavlushka> thanks, It cleared a heavy air from my lungs!
[07:09] <theblazehen> Haha, it's cool :) Was wondering what you were even saying no offence for..
[07:12] <pavlushka> theblazehen, but you can recover your password for theblaze A/C.
[07:13] <pavlushka> just need the email address to confirm.
[07:13] <theblazehen> Not if you lost the password (and username..) for you email account 5 years ago
[07:14] <pavlushka> ha ha ha, in that case, I have nothing to say.
[08:22] <Kilos> morning all.
[08:22] <Kilos> lotsa rugger today
[08:23] <Kilos> hi bushtech
[08:23] <Kilos> langjans prob was some corruption in .thunderbird
[08:28] <pavlushka> Morning Kilos !!
[08:28] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[08:29] <Kilos> oh Cryterion ^^3
[08:34] <pavlushka> Cryterion, the burp guy!!!!!!
[08:34] <Cryterion> Morning
[08:34] <Kilos> no he was helping the old man as well
[08:39] <pavlushka> I am just kidding, see I remember his lines, So I remembered him as well.
[08:39] <pavlushka> "why fart and waste it when you can burp and taste it", lol
[08:39] <Kilos> oh that
[08:40] <pavlushka> Morning Cryterion !!!
[08:40] <Kilos> he is most likely afk
[08:40]  * pavlushka burps
[08:40] <Kilos> saterday mornings they all go shopping
[08:41]  * Cryterion hates shopping
[08:41] <Kilos> haha who doesnt
[08:41] <Kilos> women love shopping
[08:41]  * Cryterion agrees with pavlushka
[08:42] <Cryterion> try sending them without that plastic card
[08:42] <Kilos> lol
[08:43]  * pavlushka at last got it
[08:43] <pavlushka> lol
[09:02] <Quetza> Hi, does anyone know how I can find Andrea Foster? She used to be involved in the Durban Linux scene
[09:03] <Kilos> hi Quetza mail william , he might know
[09:04] <Kilos> and welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:05] <Kilos> or look on G+ at the dbnlug people
[09:07] <Kilos> feel free to hangout here
[09:12] <pavlushka> Kilos, I never tried but is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS directly? I think it very much possible.
[09:12] <Kilos> yes you can upgrade lts releases
[09:13] <Kilos> but i wouldnt untill its officilly releases
[09:13] <Kilos> they were working on that this last week still
[09:14] <pavlushka> yes, I am talking about the official release.
[09:14] <Quetza> Thanks Kilos. Who's William?
[09:14] <Kilos> william walter kinghorn Quetza
[09:15] <Cryterion> he's also dbnlug I think
[09:15] <Kilos> yes
[09:15] <Kilos> are you with them too Cryterion
[09:16] <Cryterion> waiting to meet up with everyone
[09:16] <Cryterion> I'm in the same small place as williamk
[09:16] <Cryterion> most of us seem to be south coast
[09:17] <Kilos> ah
[09:17] <Quetza> is he still at dut.ac.za?
[09:17] <Kilos> Quetza see pm
[09:17] <Kilos> yes
[09:18] <Quetza> great, thanks
[09:18] <Kilos> yw
[09:35] <Quetza> Are there any good cloud hosting providers in ZA that people are using?
[09:35] <Kilos> hang around for a reply
[09:36] <Kilos> i keep everything here
[09:36] <Kilos> Maaz google cloud hosyin providers in south africa
[09:36] <Maaz> Kilos: "Cloud Server - Cloud Computing | Internet Solutions" http://www.cloud.is.co.za/ :: "Public or Private Cloud Solutions, Managed Hosting, SaaS ..." http://cloud.dimensiondata.com/mea/en/ :: "Cloud Server Hosting | Cloud Hosting South Africa | Microsoft ..." http://www.afrihost.com/site/product/cloud_hosting :: "all things cloud - South Africa"
[09:36] <Maaz> https://cloud.co.za/ :: "VPS Hosting - Cloud Based Virtual Hosting - Webafrica" https://www.webafrica.co…
[09:37] <Kilos> Quetza ^^
[09:38] <Quetza> quite, but I wondering if people have recommendations for a good one based on personal experience
[09:38] <Kilos> youll have to wait till the guys get back from sat morning shopping
[13:21] <pavlushka> How can I upload a po file?
[13:21] <pavlushka> to LP.
[14:52] <Kilos> whats a po file
[15:45] <pavlushka> po file is a offline translatable file.
[18:05] <magespawn> good evening
[18:06] <pavlushka> magespawn, good evening !
[18:09] <pavlushka> Its only me who left here.
[18:10] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:10] <Kilos> there are other purkers
[18:11] <pavlushka> and Kilos ! hi Kilos
[18:11] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[18:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:11] <pavlushka> thats too much hi for a day.
[18:11] <Kilos> i see zeorin
[18:12] <Kilos> unfamiliar nick
[18:12] <Kilos> hi zeorin welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:12] <Kilos> evening superfly
[18:15] <pavlushka> zeorin, you are even welcome to ubuntu-bd.
[18:20] <pavlushka> Kilos, I filed a but and attached the po file to that, lol
[18:20] <pavlushka> *bug
[18:21] <Kilos> ok
[18:24] <Kilos> early night tonight, very tiring watching rugby
[18:25] <Kilos> espesially when your team loses
[18:25] <Kilos> especially
[18:28] <magespawn> there was rugby today?
[18:28] <Kilos> lots
[18:28] <Kilos> bulls and japs
[18:28] <Kilos> bulls won
[18:28] <Kilos> sharks and crusaders
[18:28] <Kilos> crusaders won
[18:29] <Kilos> someone beat the cheetahs
[18:29] <Kilos> stormers playing midnight
[18:29] <Kilos> ill sleep though
[18:29] <magespawn> brumbies
[18:29] <magespawn> not sure about the spelling
[18:30] <Kilos> ya them
[18:31] <Kilos> hi Na3iL
[18:31] <magespawn> still a bit peeved about the cricket
[18:32] <Na3iL> hiya Kilos
[18:32] <Na3iL> how are you?
[18:32] <magespawn> i am more of a cricket type person
[18:32] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[18:32] <Kilos> i can enjoy most sports
[18:32] <Kilos> T20 lekker
[18:32] <Kilos> tests are boring
[18:32] <Na3iL> fine as well ty
[18:33] <magespawn> all cricket is good, it is cricket afterall
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:35] <Na3iL> btw, Kilos I've plan to do another style for the wiki pages of ubuntu africa. I thought if you could find some guys can help me with it
[18:35] <Kilos> whew
[18:35] <Kilos> arent they busy planning to move the wiki
[18:36] <Kilos> or is that just the help wiki
[18:36] <Kilos> saw many mails about it
[18:37] <Na3iL> I think it's just the help wiki
[18:37] <Kilos> ok so now we start looking for peeps that can do wiki pages
[18:38] <Na3iL> yep
[18:38] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:38] <Kilos> lets ask in africa
[18:46] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[19:07] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[00:14] <shadeslayer> xnox: ping
[00:14] <shadeslayer> xnox: I've just been passed this patch for multiarch http://paste.ubuntu.com/11705191/
[00:14] <shadeslayer> in cmake
[00:14] <shadeslayer> xnox: apparently multiple cmake runs are screwed without this
[00:14] <shadeslayer> xnox: ( Only the first few lines matter I think )
[10:53] <cedian_linux> is there also a ubuntu-touch dev support?
[14:53] <Blastyr> Hey guys. I have a specific question about the installer that I hope someone can answer. Can I (and if yes, how do I) invoke the expert installer when booting the install media in UEFI mode?
[17:48] <happyaron> wonders how to add a private PPA...
[17:50] <happyaron> oh got it
[18:55] <procyonidae> jjohansen I got true problems with my compiling for touch


[04:27] <ax> i'm trying to get an echo audiofire 4 to work with ubuntu studio 11.04 and it seems as though the new firewire stack might be causing me some trouble
[04:27] <ax> is it not possible to get the old stack on 11.04?
[12:25] <holstein> ax: you could look at the kxstudio repos
[12:25] <holstein> falk made some custom repos for jack1, not sure about the firewire stacks
[12:26] <holstein> i can say there will be no easy way to step down
[12:26] <holstein> i remember needing an older FW stack back in 9.x
[12:26] <holstein> when i would try and just remove the current FW, the entire ubuntustudio-audio meta package would want to go away
[12:27] <holstein> i can also say, theres no reason *not* to run 10.04 for audio
[17:23] <ax> holstein: yeah, i was hoping to not have to move back to 10.4 just because it is a PITA and i like having the most up to date packages, but i guess 10.4 is LTS..
[20:30] <holstein> ax: i use the kxstudio ppa's for new packages in 10.04
[20:30] <holstein> i personally take the non-LTS releases as 'testing' releases
[20:45] <ax> holstein: thanks for the info, i'll look into the ppa + 10.4
[22:29] <donteat_calamari> Does anyone know how to do simple edits of an mp3 file in linux without transcoding, like audacity does,to just cut certain parts out? I record songs from the stereo onto flash and want to make each mp3 a single song,	but audacity imports it to audacity format then re encodes it upon export this is wasting electricity resources and possibly degrading quality. In other words: does anyone know...
[22:29] <donteat_calamari> ...of a native mp3 editor, to just do crop and save?
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> help
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> please hep
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> please help
[22:36] <casey> Not possible afaik. MP3 is not an editable format. You should record to an editable format (e.g. lossless.)
[22:47] <donteat_calamari> shit
[22:47] <donteat_calamari> i guess i will just have to be quick with the start and stop button from now on
[22:49] <holstein> making ogg's is easy
[22:49] <holstein> those are easily editable
[22:53] <holstein> audacity will always convert to its format though
[22:53] <holstein> .aup's or whatever they are
[23:17] <ax> but, afaik, ogg is a lossy format as well no?
[23:18] <ax> ahh, i guess you just said.. it will get transcoded :)
[23:18] <holstein> yeah... not sure what the issue is though


[01:05] <callmepk> Good morning
[01:16] <duflu> Morning callmepk
[01:19] <callmepk> morning duflu, how are you
[01:20] <duflu> I'm OK, for a Monday. You, callmepk?
[01:20] <callmepk> I am good
[06:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:07] <oSoMoN> happy Monday!
[06:18] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN. Actually just a Monday Monday. How are you?
[06:19] <oSoMoN> hey duflu. I'm good, how are you yourself?
[06:19] <duflu> Going OK
[06:39] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:50] <duflu> Hi seb128
[07:56] <duflu> Quiet today. At least in IRC
[07:56] <duflu> How are you seb128?
[08:01] <Laney> hi ho de ho
[08:03] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:11] <seb128> hey duflu, Laney, how are you?
[08:11] <duflu> seb128, very Monday-ish. You?
[08:11] <seb128> duflu, I'm good, sorry was away for morning 'duties' :)
[08:11] <seb128> I'm ok, w.e was relaxing and I feel recharged
[08:12] <duflu> That's OK. I was away picking the bins up out of the mud. In a clean white shirt. You'll never guess what happens next
[08:13] <seb128> haha
[08:13] <oSoMoN> :)
[08:13] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:13] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[08:13] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:13] <oSoMoN> ça va, bon week-end à peu près reposant, et toi?
[08:14] <seb128> pareil :)
[08:16] <seb128> duflu, are you getting some success with those nvidia issues? if you are able to reproduce did you try if e.g the second screen rotation bug happens without the xrandr scaling patch?
[08:17] <duflu> seb128, that's a job for this week, maybe not today. I aim to just catch up on email, status report and upstreams today
[08:17] <seb128> k
[08:18] <duflu> But I do aim to simplify things by trying to reproduce and verify behaviour on Intel before going back to Nvidia
[08:18] <duflu> Not least to better understand what working fractional scaling should look like
[08:18] <duflu> And it works on Intel
[08:19] <duflu> But I don't know about the multimonitor stuff yet. Will test that
[08:19] <duflu> If there's a bug I can fix without having nvidia in the mix I might do that first
[08:20] <duflu> to avoid more side-effects on Nvidia
[08:30] <Laney> moin duflu seb128 oSoMoN
[08:31] <ricotz> good morning desktopers :)
[08:37] <Laney> hey ricotz
[08:37] <seb128> duflu, also feel free to bounce to Marco if you have a test case which let trigger the issue, the problem is that he lacks nvidia only hardware atm (as not optimus)
[08:37] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[08:38] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz
[08:38] <ricotz> hey Laney seb128 oSoMoN
[08:38] <ricotz> I am doing good :)
[08:39] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, can you investigage bug #1876352 ? it has been bisected to one of your recent commits to ubuntudock
[08:53] <sil2100> Hey desktoppers! Not sure if canary is still a thing, but groovy images are failing due to the ubuntu-canary PPA not having any groovy packages:
[08:53] <sil2100> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop/canary-image/ubuntu groovy Release' does not have a Release file.
[08:55] <oerheks> groovy just started, what makes you think a PPA is ready?
[08:55] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image
[08:56] <oerheks> and for support, join #ubuntu+1  but i doubt there will be help
[08:57] <Laney> sil2100 is one of the cd build maintainers, he's notifying us of a failing build
[08:57] <Laney> let me take care of it
[08:57] <oerheks> oh oke
[09:00] <seb128> tseliot, bug #1765363 has active comments, unsure if that's a real issue we should care about or a low piority one? I would welcome you looking just from a traiging perspective
[09:10] <tseliot> seb128, I remember fixing that in Eoan. I need to check if I backported the fix to bionic
[09:11] <seb128> tseliot, recent comments state they have the issue on focal but maybe that's another problem and they should be askred to report another bug
[09:11] <tseliot> seb128, are you talking about LP: #1875339 now?
[09:12] <seb128> tseliot, no, why?
[09:12] <seb128> tseliot, e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1765363/comments/69
[09:12] <tseliot> let me have a look
[09:12] <seb128> or #68
[09:14] <tseliot> seb128, that seems to me like a comment on the solution provided in the bug report, more than on the way things are in 20.04.
[09:15] <tseliot> also, they are using bbswitch, which isn't really needed
[09:15] <seb128> tseliot, could well be ... if you think you fixed it in 19.10 then I think we best close that one and ask people have issues on focal to do a new clean report describing their problem
[09:20] <tseliot> seb128, I'll check how things are in 18.04 too
[09:20] <seb128> tseliot, thanks!
[09:31] <duflu> seb128, some good news: plymouth master's latest two commits came from us
[09:32] <seb128> duflu, you got your contributor badge for another project :)
[09:33]  * duflu wonders if those were the first
[09:33] <duflu> No I was already a contributor
[09:33] <duflu> If only the important changes would land
[09:35] <seb128> ah, right, you had a list the label/center bugfix you did before focal went out
[09:35] <seb128> yeah :/
[09:45] <duflu> tjaalton, I keep seeing bug reports in which people have the nvidia kernel driver and Xorg using modeset. Is that even possible?
[09:45] <duflu> I will have to try
[09:45] <duflu> Sounds like stutter is generally what results, which I find easy to believe if swap events don't work properly
[09:45] <tjaalton> for tseliot?
[09:46] <duflu> Maybe
[09:46] <duflu> You're so all over Xorg that I keep forgetting
[09:46] <tjaalton> modeset works on a kms driver, so it's not "forbidden"
[09:46] <tjaalton> combo
[09:47] <duflu> Yeah that's what I fear
[09:47] <duflu> Maybe I will need to make it a supported (less broken) combo in mutter
[09:47] <tjaalton> just that there should be an xorg.conf in these cases?
[09:47]  * duflu nods
[09:47] <tjaalton> it could be a hybrid too with i915
[09:48] <tjaalton> hmm or maybe not
[09:48] <tseliot> duflu, yes, modesetting is the default driver for intel+nvidia. This means intel using the modesetting driver
[09:49] <duflu> Yes. I guess I get confused by the lack of Nvidia in the Xorg log
[09:49] <duflu> Makes me think it's not loaded
[09:52] <tseliot> duflu, nvidia should also show up in the log if "prime-select nvidia" is used. It won't when in "on-demand" mode
[09:53] <popey> jibel uploaded my journal to bug 1876440. Very odd that the bpool went missing. Happy to run debugging commands or whatever :)
[09:58] <jibel> popey, there is no bpool and in the pool cache there is the default pool of lxd.
[09:59] <jibel> i'll see if I find something useful in the journal and probably as k for more info
[09:59] <popey> oof
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[10:16] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal 1735e69 Iain Lane debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/pJXC
[10:16] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal b6281a8 Iain Lane debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/3QMLG
[10:17] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal d96e828 Iain Lane debian/gbp.conf * gbp.conf: Update 'debian-tag' to make ubuntu/XXX tags * https://deb.li/1VWc
[10:17] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection signed tags 78ca4ea Iain Lane ubuntu/1.64.1-1_ubuntu20.04.1 * gobject-introspection Debian release 1.64.1-1~ubuntu20.04.1 * https://deb.li/3Bx8y
[10:21] <Trevinho> seb128: ok will look that too
[10:21] <seb128> hey Trevinho, thanks! how are you? had a good 3 days w.e? :)
[10:47] <Trevinho> seb128: good although I actually worked on 1st as there was not much else to do... 😅
[10:48] <Trevinho> To celebrate work even better
[10:48] <Trevinho> you.
[10:48] <Trevinho> ?
[10:49] <Trevinho> but at least I was able to go out for a walk and a run after 40+ days locked in
[10:50] <didrocks> good afternoon :)
[10:51]  * Laney looks suspiciously at didrocks
[10:51] <Laney> afternoon
[10:51] <Laney> hey Trevinho
[10:52] <didrocks> :) /me goes force and back and work in interruptions
[11:00] <seb128> Trevinho, I worked as well, virtual vienna ... w.e was relaxing/good though
[11:00] <seb128> hey didrocks, how are you?
[11:01] <didrocks> seb128: tired, but not as much as Julie :) Otherwise, well! Thanks, and you?
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master c2b4d62 Iain Lane * pushed 7 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/34IOy
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master f85abc2 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.35.3-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ij0G4
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master e955b83 Sebastien Bacher (151 files in 14 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.36.1-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ivyD
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master d413699 Iain Lane debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.1-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3QwDz
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master c90d623 Iain Lane (25 files in 7 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.2-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/qu4R
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master 1eb85b5 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * control, gbp.conf: Update for ubuntu branches * https://deb.li/3VHzv
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca signed tags fcbffaa Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.2-1ubuntu1 * orca Debian release 3.36.2-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/DHME
[13:44] <didrocks> thanks Laney :)
[13:45] <Laney> np!
[13:50] <Laney> got to love having the commit bot
[13:54] <didrocks> it seems it's printing Author and not Commiter, right?
[13:56] <Laney> that's right
[13:56] <Laney> If it printed the committer it would mean attribution is weird
[13:56] <didrocks> DRTR :p
[13:56] <didrocks> DTRT
[13:56] <didrocks> :)
[13:56] <Laney> :>
[13:57]  * Laney does the sru bits
[14:23] <Laney> back online
[14:23] <Laney> ISP's been having a wobble
[14:45] <Laney> just wobbled off completely /o\
[14:50] <didrocks> waow, crazy, even the wifi at the maternity is more stable than your ISP it seems
[14:50] <Laney> heh
[14:51] <Laney> they're usually great, wonder what's happening today
[14:51] <Laney> watching their IRC channel is funny
[15:30] <seb128> marcustomlinson, bug #1874591 seems like a fallout from https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/380060
[15:30] <seb128> +            GLib.idle_add(self.label_details.set_label, status)
[15:31] <seb128> but label_details doesn't seem to exist
[15:32] <seb128> well not in the apturl context at least
[15:48] <marcustomlinson> sigh
[15:50] <marcustomlinson> seb128: thanks for the diagnosis
[15:50] <seb128> marcustomlinson, np, sorry that this work is still coming back haunting you :-(
[15:52] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master a8635db Iain Lane * pushed 11 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iWRAx
[15:52] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 7d66148 Samuel Thibault (125 files in 13 dirs) * New upstream version 3.35.91 * https://deb.li/pl0E
[15:52] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 0cd1ee2 Samuel Thibault (125 files in 13 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/3.35.91' * https://deb.li/3QmCe
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master c3394f9 Samuel Thibault debian/changelog * upload * https://deb.li/1L2I
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 0d2eb6a Samuel Thibault (60 files in 7 dirs) * New upstream version 3.35.92 * https://deb.li/sQI4
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 7fd9f07 Samuel Thibault (60 files in 7 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/3.35.92' * https://deb.li/3nziD
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal e743a23 Iain Lane * pushed 10 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3VoGA
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal f85abc2 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.35.3-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ij0G4
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal e955b83 Sebastien Bacher (151 files in 14 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.36.1-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ivyD
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal d413699 Iain Lane debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.1-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3QwDz
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal c90d623 Iain Lane (25 files in 7 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.2-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/qu4R
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal 1eb85b5 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * control, gbp.conf: Update for ubuntu branches * https://deb.li/3VHzv
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca signed tags f76e3ec Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.2-1ubuntu1_20.04.1 * orca Debian release 3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1 * https://deb.li/DNiR
[15:56] <Laney> I like this method of dishing out of updates
[16:12] <hellsworth> good morning dekstopers
[16:12] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth
[16:13] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN
[16:38] <didrocks> hey hellsworth, oSoMoN
[16:39] <hellsworth> hey didrocks why are you here??
[16:40] <didrocks> hellsworth: I work (with some interruptions) from the maternity. This allow me to be more available when we go back home (on Wednesday)
[16:40] <didrocks> allows*
[16:40] <hellsworth> wow good job.. and congrats again :D
[16:41] <didrocks> thx :)
[16:47]  * ogra sighs ... two weeks in and i still havent gotten a working desktop on my upgraded desktop ... *sniff* ...
[16:51]  * ogra would be happy about any idea https://imgur.com/a/z8jDqUB ... (i have an install on USB sick that works flawless on that device, the upgraded internal install looks like this though)
[18:36] <seb128> ogra, what driver is in use? legacy intel? or the modesetting modern one?
[18:36] <seb128> ogra, maybe directly ping tjaalton or RAOF they are probably the ones around having the most clue about graphical corruption/driver bugs
[18:36] <ogra> well, both are intel for sure
[18:37] <seb128> ogra, is -intel installed?
[18:37] <seb128> just trying to see a difference between an USB stick and your upgrade...
[18:37] <ogra> : (II) intel(0): Using Kernel Mode Setting driver: i915, version 1.6.0 20190822
[18:37] <ogra> i think they are identical
[18:39] <ogra> well, trying to find the difference is what i'm doing here since a week :)
[18:40] <ogra> i think i at least have a largely identical package selection on both now ...
[18:41] <sarnold> ogra: two weeks with those crazy artifacts?
[18:41] <ogra> i also tried a new user to make sure it isnt any user config ... so the last bit remaining must be some stale config ... perhaps something i added manually and forgot :/
[18:42] <ogra> sarnold, well,  a few restarts and i at least have no artifxats on the fonts ... then changing the wallpaper and i have a semi workable environment
[18:43] <sarnold> ogra: ah, good. that'd otherwise be way too much to work with
[18:43] <ogra> playing a video fullscreen reliably breaks it again though
[19:32] <tjaalton> ogra: do you have the intel x driver in use?
[19:33] <tjaalton> if so, remove it
[19:33] <ogra> tjaalton, xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[19:33] <tjaalton> yes
[19:34] <tjaalton> in xorg.conf
[19:34] <ogra> i dont have an xorg.conf (i think)
[19:34] <tjaalton> check
[19:34] <ogra> at least not in /etc/X11
[19:34] <tjaalton> or the x log
[19:35] <sarnold> is there something wrong with just purging the package and letting that sort it out?
[19:36] <ogra> no trace of xorg.conf in the log ... let me remove the driver and reboot ...
[19:36] <tjaalton> that should do it, unless x is configured to use it and it fails to start
[19:37] <tjaalton> i meant if the log showed intel was used
[19:39] <ogra> tjaalton, i owe you beer at the next non-virtual sprint !!!
[19:39] <ogra> thanks so much, that did it
[19:41] <tjaalton> ok, cool :)
[19:52] <tjaalton> guess you still have a config in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:45] <seb128> ogra, shrug, I asked you early if you used the old -intel
[20:45] <seb128> glad you figured it out though: )
[22:25] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master df687cd Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/0030-temporarily-revert-alt-char-key.patch * Fixed broken dh_translations POT creation * https://deb.li/it6P1
[22:54] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal 2a22179 Gunnar Hjalmarsson debian/ changelog patches/0030-temporarily-revert-alt-char-key.patch * Fixed broken dh_translations POT creation * https://deb.li/3bYNe


[13:39] <harmw> ah, Icehouse.2 is out
[17:12] <harmw> RaginBajin: I can confirm fbsd support is pretty broken, based on a first try to run c-i on it
[17:23] <RaginBajin> harmw:  I should put a copy of all the horrible hacks I put into the code so you can see it. That may help a bit.
[17:33] <harmw> rm -rf /var/lib/cloud/ ; /usr/local/bin/cloud-init -d init
[17:33] <harmw> thats how I
[17:33] <harmw> just started it
[17:34] <harmw> but I realy should first have it print more debug info, because it used to print stuff like which datasource and distro it was using - info I don't get to see now
[17:34] <harmw> I think the original code was against 0.7.4
[17:35] <harmw> and worked :p
[17:49] <harmw> aha, this is kinda lol
[17:50] <harmw> RaginBajin: there is a pending mergerequest to adress some issues :p
[17:50] <harmw> https://code.launchpad.net/~harmw/cloud-init/freebsd-static-networking
[17:50] <harmw> smoser: boohooo
[17:53] <RaginBajin> harmw: That's how I was initially testing it as well, till I put it into an image and rebooted it. That's when I found problems the PATH problems.  I had the debug issue not printing for a while, but I'm not sure what I did, it then started printing to a debug.log file which provided more info than --debug
[18:00] <harmw> exactly
[18:23] <harmw> ah, ofcourse
[18:23] <harmw> RaginBajin: there is a /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/05_logging.cfg that takes care of certain log stuff
[18:23] <harmw> the dirty solution: move that file to some place lse
[18:24] <RaginBajin> ahh. I bet I wasn't making it to that stage of the init. So that wasn't even getting started. That's whey when things started to work, I started seeing that file
[18:25] <harmw> and now I can clearly see a regex IndexError
[18:25] <harmw> regarding the reading of rc.conf
[18:32] <harmw> ok, on a newly created branch I see yet another issue: error: You must specify one of (systemd, sysvinit, sysvinit_deb, upstart) when specifying init system(s)!
[18:36] <harmw> fixed
[18:37] <harmw> copying sysvinit/redhat/cloud-config -> /etc/rc.d/init.d
[18:37] <harmw> copying sysvinit/redhat/cloud-final -> /etc/rc.d/init.d
[18:37] <harmw> copying sysvinit/redhat/cloud-init -> /etc/rc.d/init.d
[18:37] <harmw> copying sysvinit/redhat/cloud-init-local -> /etc/rc.d/init.d
[18:37] <harmw> thats something to look into as well
[18:39] <harmw> tht and installing the config file in /etc/cloud/
[18:39] <harmw> (that should be /usr/local/etc/..)
[18:50] <harmw> RaginBajin: while the code should just leave comments in /etc/rc.conf alone instead of silently deleting them, I think one can perfectly defend the current behavior from a cloudy point-of-view :p where there is no real need to put anything in rc.conf because thats is managed from either nova (with userscripts) or (as far as bsd concerns: someday) from tools like puppet
[18:51] <smoser> harmw is awesome.
[18:52] <harmw> oh lol
[18:52]  * smoser has to go afk. later all.
[18:52] <smoser> i'll be more vailable next week
[18:52] <harmw> :)
[18:56] <RaginBajin> harmw:  Yeah that makes sense.  That's what I was thinking as well. Somehow those comments got into that file and was causing the problems. But I do know puppet normally leaves comments in those files. Not sure what that effect has just yet
[19:04] <harmw> well, the code was expecting key=val
[19:04] <harmw> and ONLY lines that match that pattern
[19:35] <harmw> hm, for some reason its trying to set hostname to the current hostname instead of what it got from nova/metadata
[19:36] <harmw> hm, or is it...
[19:40] <RaginBajin> That should mean that it's using None datasource, so it's using the current values and going through the init process.
[19:40] <RaginBajin> I believe.
[19:40] <harmw> yup, just got to that conclusion :)
[19:47] <harmw> importer.py[DEBUG]: Failed at attempted import of 'DataSourceOpenStackEc2' due to: No module named DataSourceOpenStackEc2
[19:47] <harmw> that doesn't sound good
[19:48] <harmw> (and same goes for all the other datasources)
[20:34] <harmw> aha, so when I specify datasource_list: ['OpenStack'] in cloud.cfg, it all works
[20:52] <harmw> https://code.launchpad.net/~harmw/cloud-init/freebsd, thats current now
[20:52] <harmw> it includes the staticnetwork branch as well


[00:46] <Unit193> BenC: Sure, checking now.
[00:54] <Unit193> BenC: Congrats!
[13:05] <BenC> Unit193: Thanks!