[16:02] <nomic> or should be
[16:03] <glenn> how can i access a share on other pc
[16:12] <notfadssss> eric^^: you there buddy?
[16:15] <glenn> why can't i install swat samba any more
[16:18] <jimmy51v> anyone here use dyndns.org?
[16:19] <compdoc> jimmy51v, I do
[16:20] <jimmy51v> compdoc:  do you know which service is needed to point something like home.jimmy.com to my home IP?
[16:20] <compdoc> althought they are no longer dyndns.org. now theyre dyn.com
[16:20] <jimmy51v> i just bought the standard DNS service but i'm thinking I need something in addition to that to do what i'm wanting.
[16:20] <jimmy51v> yeah... it changed to dyn.com
[16:21] <compdoc> all you need to do is create the right records.
[16:21] <jimmy51v> ah... A records and CNAME and all that?
[16:21] <compdoc> I have www, ftp, phone, mail, etc
[16:22] <compdoc> home would be just one more
[16:22] <compdoc> you have their client running to watch for ip changes?
[16:23] <jimmy51v> ok
[16:23] <jimmy51v> i don't yet
[16:23] <jimmy51v> i have a domain and host for my main site i don't want to affect.  i've got to make sure this is transparent for that first
[16:24] <jimmy51v> then i'll make the home.jimmyasdf.com, then i'll get the client going
[16:36] <nadimsite> Shall I upgrade to 14.10. Actually I am using 14.04
[16:36] <nadimsite> No one to answer.
[16:37] <skao> nadimsite: if 14.10 doesn't offer anything you actually need, stick with 14.04
[16:37] <kungr> no
[16:37] <kungr> if it aint broke
[16:37] <NeurOSick> hi all
[16:38] <skao> nadimsite: 14.04 offers support until 2019 as it is LTS, 14.10 only until July 2015
[16:39] <nadimsite> Thanks skao. I have a question: what 14.10 offer more than 14.10.
[16:39] <schiho_> hi guys, how can i install libavcodec?
[16:39] <schiho_> Package libavcodec was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[16:39] <schiho_> command i run: apt-get build-dep libav-tools
[16:41] <nadimsite> I repeat my question skao: what's new on 14.10
[16:42] <skao> nadimsite: nothing that new acutally - some small stuff, like new unity minor version
[16:42] <skao> nothing gamebreaking
[16:42] <bubbasaures> nadimsite, This is support that is a chat issue and we have a channel just for it #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:42] <teward> nadimsite: The release notes are your friend - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes
[16:42] <nadimsite> Thanks skao.
[16:43] <EriC^^> notfadssss: hey
[16:43] <EriC^^> notfadssss: what's up?
[16:43] <jimmy51v> thanks compdoc.  i found it all and got it set up
[16:44] <jimmy51v> i was looking in the wrong place in the web UI
[16:44] <notfadssss> eric^^: it was the sas/sata raid and drivers that do not have the correct drivers for ubuntu
[16:44] <notfadssss> eric^^: i figured youd like to know lol
[16:44] <EriC^^> notfadssss: oh ok
[16:45] <EriC^^> notfadssss: lol :D
[16:45] <notfadssss> eric^^: figured toud like to know after all your help wtf was actually wrong
[16:45] <notfadssss> eric^^: you'd
[16:46] <EriC^^> notfadssss: yeah
[16:46] <bubbasaures> notfadssss, Can you do it without swearing or acronyms of?
[16:46] <nadimsite> Thank you babbasaures
[16:46] <EriC^^> notfadssss: it's picking up the drive and everything now?
[16:46] <nadimsite> Thank you teward.
[16:47] <notfadssss> bubbasaures: I could but it would not illustrate the difficulties associated
[16:47] <notfadssss> eric^^: had to dump the raid card get new HDD
[16:47] <EriC^^> notfadssss: ouch
[16:47] <bubbasaures> notfadssss, Than you will end up banned this is a clean language channel. As a matter of fact any one wit the slightest intelligence would know this.
[16:48] <bubbasaures> you been on here for a couple of days now
[16:48] <Linxcat> I installed 14.04 on another laptop yesterday which had 12.02, but after upgrdage I am getting weird crashes randomly. How can i completely re-install 14.04 without creating a cd/usb?
[16:48] <notfadssss> bubbasaures: okay sorry It will not happen again, using acronyms i thought was acceptable.
[16:49] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:49] <bubbasaures> try grml
[16:51] <notfadssss> eric^^: nah I have not gone and boughten the drivers I want but its a simple removing of the old and swapping of the new gotta run to microcenter later today
[16:51] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, Having the install dvd/usb is your best tool in your kit however.
[16:51] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: page doesnt exist
[16:51] <notfadssss> eric^^: then just use LVM instead of hardware raid
[16:51] <Linxcat> why cant i just re-install from ternimal?
[16:51] <EriC^^> notfadssss: oh ok
[16:51] <NeurOSick> Hi guys.. I have a little problem with Ubuntu 14.04/Unity, All my indicators desapears..almost, I still have only : lang/mail/sound/hour
[16:51] <Linxcat> i did the distro update from ternimcal
[16:51] <Linxcat> "ternimal"
[16:51] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, What page does not exist?
[16:52] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: try restart indicator-application
[16:52] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: that url you gave me
[16:52] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: or indicator-session
[16:52] <bubbasaures> Linxcat, It exists your mistaken.
[16:56] <Linxcat> bubbasaures: wow, i just learned that URLs are case sensitive. sorry I didnt enter Grub with a capital "G"
[16:56] <NeurOSick> EriC^^ no, this command restart indicators but not the icons on the status bar
[17:01] <EriC^^> NeurOSick: try restart indicator<tab>
[17:01] <EriC^^> try one of the missing ones
[17:02] <NeurOSick> like guake
[17:03] <NeurOSick> but nothing..
[17:03] <NeurOSick> EriC^^, after reboot, after restart applications, restart indicator, nothing appear.. but the applications running
[17:04] <NeurOSick> EriC^^, I've tryed create a new user session, and always the same problem
[17:04] <kokut> is there a way to search in irc chat history?
[17:05] <bubbasaures> kokut, Histories on the web and not a ubuntu issue.
[17:06] <kokut> bubbasaures: mmh yea i know i meant to search within the irc channel chat history so i don't have to ask the same question that has already been asked
[17:07] <freeroute> hi, is there a pax ppa with prebuilt kernels?
[17:07] <supersobbie> good day.
[17:07] <bubbasaures> kokut, Good luck I think by now about any question possible has been asked. ;)
[17:07] <freeroute> or at least a .deb source package?
[17:07] <SchrodingersScat> !logs | kokut
[17:07] <bubbasaures> !ppa | freeroute
[17:07] <supersobbie> I have run into an issue.  I tried to install ubuntu dual boot with windows 8.1.... but it seems to have failed
[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> !details | supersobbie
[17:09] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: thanks man, but thats not exactly what i need, i was looking for a way of searching within all those logs
[17:09] <supersobbie> I didnt want to write an entire paragraph.  but I have a windows 8.1 dell xps.  I have one hard drive for windows.  I have another that has linux.... I tried to follow the instructions (UEFI CRAP) and booted to a usb drive
[17:09] <supersobbie> then clicked install on a different drive
[17:09] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: i figured there could be a command
[17:09] <supersobbie> it did but now it doesnt boot to anything
[17:10] <supersobbie> just gives the grub error (have to reboot to give you the exact error so it will be a second)
[17:10] <supersobbie> but windows 8 doesnt boot and linus doestn boot
[17:10] <supersobbie> kinda pissin me off
[17:10] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: some search sites let you narrow it down to a specific site.  so you can search "<search term or phrase> site:irclogs.ubuntu.com" to only return results from that site.  If you mean you want to check your own logs, then you can try using grep against whatever logs your irc client keeps.
[17:10] <Fredouille_> hello
[17:10] <supersobbie> why did they have to make it hard... dual booting should be easy
[17:11] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: exactly
[17:11] <Fredouille_> is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes
[17:11] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: so first i need to download the logs to use grep?
[17:11] <Linxcat> When i get "System program problem detected" in ubuntu which one of the logs would have more details?
[17:11] <jatt> /var/log/syslog
[17:11] <supersobbie> also I can not see the windows drive from ubuntu
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: sure, if that's the way you want to do it.
[17:12] <supersobbie> sorry strike that last comment
[17:12] <supersobbie> I see PBR Image and WINRETOOLS
[17:13] <supersobbie> but I can not mount htem
[17:13] <Fredouille_> is there a way to duplicate a file when it changes please
[17:13] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: do you know if there is any bot that could do this without me having to get all the logs into my computer?
[17:15] <bubbasaures> Fredouille_, some context might help, it is a strange question the way asked.
[17:15] <supersobbie> ok after screwing around I get a grub> prompt but not sure what to do with it
[17:16] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, Did you do a full image of W8?
[17:16] <supersobbie> it was a dell xps with windows 8 on it.
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> kokut: can't think of one better than google
[17:16] <supersobbie> then I booted to a usb ubuntu drive and clicked install
[17:16] <supersobbie> now all I get is grub>
[17:16] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, That does  not answer my question, you have to do that here if you want help.
[17:17] <freeroute> bubbasaures: I've searched that already before asking here.
[17:17] <supersobbie> no I did not do a full image of windows 8.
[17:17] <supersobbie> if you are refering to a backup
[17:17] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, That weas your first mistake, had you done that you would be all right where you started to try this again.
[17:18] <bubbasaures> was*
[17:18] <supersobbie> I agree.
[17:18] <supersobbie> but to be honest at this point I was probably just going to put ubuntu on the entier thing
[17:18] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: awsum, ty
[17:19] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, W8 has a refresh and reset option, might be where you have to go to get a new option, UEFI issues are not really well known as of now by many.
[17:19] <supersobbie> why is grub not picking up hte ubuntu install?
[17:19] <supersobbie> yea I am finding that... so far I think UEFI is S#IT!!! :\
[17:20] <bubbasaures> supersobbie, No swearing here and I just put you in ignore, with an attitude and just posting garbage, I doubt I'm the only one.
[17:21] <supersobbie> sorry it has been a frustrating day
[17:21] <supersobbie> I understand
[17:21] <bubbasaures> see a counselor for the drama we are just free help.
[17:21] <supersobbie> WoW.  k sorry apparently no one has ever come in here in a bad mood.  I mean I agree.  I help all the time in different channels.
[17:22] <supersobbie> wasnt looking ot offend.
[17:41] <abhimanyu> ny one ?
[17:42] <Linxcat> ok so i fixed my error. :)
[17:42] <da2000> oi
[17:44] <Linxcat> in the ubuntu login screen, where you can select "lubuntu/openbox/ubuntu" are those JUST gui interfaces/desktops?
[17:45] <Linxcat> the reason i am asking is because i have a "lubuntu" option there, which when you select it and login nothing happens. i was trying to remove it and reinstall lubuntu desktop
[17:46] <Linxcat> but after removing lxde and lubuntu-desktop option is still there
[17:46] <cpt_yossarian> Linxcat: you probably have some lingering packages. try apt-get autoremove, maybe
[17:47] <Linxcat> cpt_yossarian: i tried, it says "0".
[17:48] <trism> Linxcat: the sessions are specified in /usr/share/xsessions/ so you could look there to see which .desktop file provides that session and: dpkg -S that path to find the package for it
[17:49] <cpt_yossarian> Linxcat: on trism's note, here's a SO answer for your problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[17:50] <Linxcat> trism: it says /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
[17:50] <captainfantastic> anyone know how to bring default Unity login screen back after installing Xubuntu-desktop?
[17:51] <trism> Linxcat: no I meant the path to the .desktop file, like: dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop;
[17:55] <Linxcat> trism: thanks, so the result came back as lubuntu-default-settings. should i try to remove that?
[17:55] <trism> Linxcat: if you want the session gone, yes
[17:56] <Linxcat> trism: in this context, session = gui desktop. right?
[17:58] <trism> Linxcat: yes but I'm sure you probably have other packages related to lubuntu lying around because removing lubuntu-desktop won't remove them, this will mostly just remove the entry from the greeter
[17:59] <Linxcat> trism: thats what i am thinking too. there should be a parent package which when is uninstalled  will remove the session item
[17:59] <Linxcat> trism: ok so i guess i gonna read up on completely uninstalling lubuntu
[17:59] <trism> captainfantastic: do you have a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ? you can change greeter-session=unity-greeter in that to revert to default, but recent versions don't really have one...otherwise it might have added a file to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ that used lightdm-gtk-greeter instead
[18:01] <Mdgde2e> Hey gang
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> howdy
[18:01] <Mdgde2e> Is there any way to limit processor cycles for a specific process?
[18:01] <kaste> sure you don just want nice?
[18:02] <Mdgde2e> Like, I do not want to allow chrome to use more than 60% of the CPU resources at any time.
[18:02] <captainfantastic> trism: did the first one already, and I got to enter my password twice. thinking of doing former one manually.
[18:02] <Mdgde2e> Alternatively, restricting it to a specific core.
[18:02] <kaste> Mdgde2e: read up on nice, it is probably what you really want
[18:03] <stoogenmeyer> Hey anybody have success using tagsinput along with typeahead? can get each to work on its own but having some difficulty getting them to work together
[18:03] <Mdgde2e> I kinda want to play it safe.
[18:03] <ahmad>  HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.17.6-031706-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "utopic" 14.10 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.74GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.7GiB, 77.7% free ** Disk: Total: 485.9GiB, 17.8% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[18:03] <ahmad> Ethernet ** Uptime: 10h 53m 19s **
[18:03] <Mdgde2e> If it ever gets to crowd the CPU it will go north of 100% and stay there
[18:04] <Mdgde2e> And just queue into infinity until I cut the power
[18:04] <Mdgde2e> If it were adhering to priority properly, I wouldn't be having this issue right?
[18:05] <Mdgde2e> But I get zero resources for anything else including basic system functions
[18:06] <kaste> sure you aren seeing swapping effects here? When I run out of ram and get into heavy swapping that is the only time I see stuff like that
[18:06] <Mdgde2e> Maybe..
[18:08] <okolo> hi
[18:09] <okolo> k
[18:39] <irth> what does ubuntu/xubuntu use to encrypt /home directory (in installer)
[18:39] <irth> ?
[18:47] <deone_> nrsnfnfhrthrthrthwrhwrhrthrhrhyhtyhhrhrhrhrhetrhrhasgeragehrgrwaenrerhrsthg
[18:47] <deone_> ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[18:48] <squeegily> I know that I can add host aliases in ~/.ssh/config, and then I can just go to sftp://<alias> in the file manager, but is there anything similar for FTP?
[18:49] <squeegily> Like if I've added a laptop alias, then when I access it in the file manager, it'll show up as "/ on laptop" instead of "/ on <IP_ADDRESS>…"
[18:52] <irth> i don't know if there's an ubuntu-specific gui solution
[18:52] <cfrieler> I'm having trouble with a MDADM created RAID 5 array properly mounting and SAMBA sharing after a power glitch reboot..
[18:52] <cfrieler> Is this the correct place to ask a few noob questions?
[18:52] <irth> but generally on linux you can modify /etc/hosts
[18:53] <squeegily> Is there something that's not a drastic system-wide change?
[18:53] <squeegily> Like ~/.ssh/config, but for FTP?
[18:53] <irth> but that only allows you to specify custom hostnames for IPs
[18:53] <irth> i don't know
[18:53] <squeegily> Which cleans up the GUI perfectly since it says "/ on laptop"
[18:53] <squeegily> it would be handy to have the router's FTP show up as "/ on router" instead of "/ on <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:54] <irth> /etc/hosts will work like that i think
[18:54] <squeegily> But that's pretty drastic
[18:55] <irth> well if that's your computer it's not :v
[18:55] <irth> dunno, i come from arch linux :P
[19:00] <cfrieler> Anyone here know how to troubleshoot an MDADM RAID5 volume on 14.04?
[19:01] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | cfrieler
[19:01] <squeegily> irth: It's my computer, but using root to change system-wide things for a single user's FTP server falls under Drastic ;)
[19:02] <squeegily> I come from Arch as well.. I switched to Ubuntu because I was tired of maintaining my Arch installations
[19:03] <cfrieler> !ask
[19:06] <irth> squeegily: well, <IP_ADDRESS> will be router for everyone who uses that computer, unless they connect it somewhere else xP
[19:07] <squeegily> irth: yeah but it looks ugly
[19:07] <squeegily> And some day I might on a whim change the subnet and I don't want to have a bunch of things system-wide configured to count on that subnet
[19:07] <squeegily> This sort of thing is one of the reasons I bailed on Arch
[19:08] <cfrieler> !patience
[19:10] <SchrodingersScat> cfrieler: so I'm saying you may not be giving enough details, what is happening, what you've tried, etc., or no one is on that has any input.
[19:15] <cfrieler> ScrodingersScat:  Thanks - Old guy, first time on IRC  -   so I'm still unclear on controls and protocol.  I've got a home media server set up on 14.04, 28TB mdadm RAID5 volume on 8 4TB drives that is SAMBA shared to a collection of WIn7 systems.  We had a power glitch this AM and now the volume won't automount, and if I mount it, the SAMBA shares aren't working. I have spent 6 hours trying various things from the internet, but an no
[19:17] <cfrieler> Sorry, Character limit on a single line...   Where do I find a relevant troubleshooting guide? or What is the first thning to check?
[19:17] <joespeakeasy> cfieler have you tried accessing the data with another system? like a live os?
[19:18] <debarshi> Hi
[19:19] <debarshi> I was wondering, Ubuntu LTS releases such as 14.04 are less buggy than 14.10 or regular releases, right?
[19:20] <TheTopBloke> Uh, I don't think so. I believe 14.10 is stable but I could be wrong
[19:20] <cfrieler> debarhi: The stated difference is that thr LTS versions are supported longer, not that they  are necessarily less buggy.
[19:21] <joespeakeasy> I'm new to bash and I've hit a hurdle. I have a simple function that I use to wrap up a series of sed commands. when I pass parameters as strings, all is well. however when I pass $VARIABLES… the function behaves strangely. Can anyone point me to some docs that may help me sort this out?
[19:21] <bubbasaures> debarshi, all opinions is all
[19:22] <EriC^^> joespeakeasy: use sed 's@$var@$var@'
[19:23] <debarshi> So one of the thing that kinda bothers me a little with ubuntu (and opensource operating systems in general, even though I support the movement) is that it seems there are always little bugs.. like on 14.04 right now, sometimes, when I drag my mouse on the desktop and that orange square pops up, the orange square stays and doesn't just disappear like it's supposed to
[19:23] <debarshi> that's a small tiny bug... but it does kinda bother me
[19:24] <SchrodingersScat> joespeakeasy: the wooledge bash wiki is very nice, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CompoundCommands#Functions
[19:24] <joespeakeasy> EriC, no luck… I'll post it to pastebin. I'm dumbfounded
[19:24] <XCVB> cleverbot test
[19:24] <bubbasaures> debarshi, All software has bugs, many times here we see bugs exclaimed on user errors is all.
[19:26] <debarshi> bubbasaures: Your correct, at least I don't use Windows anymore!!! LOL (haven't in like 4 years)
[19:26] <collizion> debarshi: Wish I could say the same.
[19:27] <bubbasaures> debarshi, Not a proclamation that flys for me but whatever.
[19:27] <joespeakeasy> SchrodingersScat (Alive I hope): that looks good. I wish I would have found that primer earlier.
[19:28] <SchrodingersScat> joespeakeasy: there is also a #bash here on freenode, has many knowledgeable people
[19:29] <joespeakeasy> I'll head there now, thanks so much.
[19:29] <TheTopBloke> anyone here use textmate?
[19:30] <debarshi> bubbasaure: So I was wondering.. for years I've been trying to learn how to help develop for the ubuntu operating system... I've joined IRC groups before, but no luck... I just don't know where I could learn the essentials.. I know how to use gcc and g++ for small things like command line programs.. but I have no idea how to do QT and GTK+ etc... I know Java too, but I'm not super good at the gui stuff either.. where can I learn?
[19:30] <debarshi> I also would love to help with the operating system (AKA the actual system development) in general
[19:31] <mike802> why do you refer to it is "developing for ubuntu"
[19:31] <mike802> it sounds like you've already found a program
[19:33] <bubbasaures> debarshi, You can tab complete nicks to get them correct. There is a support system to ubuntu not sure where to start myself.
[19:34] <debarshi> As in? I mean I know some simple stuff.. but learning gui graphics and also stuff like.. I wanna learn the networking apsects of Ubuntu, I want to learn how Ubuntu and linux works at it's core.. I know linux is a monolithic kernel... but I want to learn more... how does all this get developed??? System.out.println(); and cout<< is one thing.. but how do.. I really want to become more of a hacker (Ethical hacker of course) I want t
[19:34] <debarshi> o use the system to its full potential.. but to tell you the truth.. I'm only 16 and have little idea what I'm doing
[19:34] <TheTopBloke> is there perhaps a better ubuntu chat related to servers?
[19:35] <SchrodingersScat> !server | TheTopBloke
[19:35] <bubbasaures> debarshi, This is all offtopic, there is a channel just for that #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:35] <debarshi> bubbasaures: Thank you!!!! :D
[19:36] <Skyrider> back 2 windows it is
[19:38] <Siilwyn> Hi people, after using Ubuntu for a while what email app would you recommend instead of Thunderbird?
[19:38] <Siilwyn> Thunderbird has a bit too much clutter in my opinion.
[19:39] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: i would gmail in a web brower for any platform
[19:39] <mike802> i can't believe mozilla dropped support for thunderbird
[19:39] <mike802> out of things to do, how lazy
[19:39] <Siilwyn> mike802, they did? ;0 I didn't know that.
[19:40] <dotut> hello, using 12.04LTS, remote/direct printers show up in cups (lpinfo -v) but not gtk print dialog...any ideas?
[19:40] <Siilwyn> dreamcat5, I do use gmail but it's handy if I can read recent email offline.
[19:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | mike802, I'm not sure what major improvements in thunderbird you are waiting for, but,
[19:43] <Siilwyn> Anybody knows in what order the wifi networks are sorted? (Seems random to me.)
[19:44] <m0h4wk> Hi there, I was wondering if someone could help me with a question I have
[19:45] <m0h4wk> I have 2 hard drives on my laptop right now, an SSD and an HDD. I dual installed Windows 8 and Ubuntu on the SSD. Is there any way to make it so that all my data/files are stored on my HDD? Such as Ubuntu apps, backups, etc.?
[19:45] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: maybe look for a chrome or firefox plugin for offline gmail browsing
[19:46] <jatt> m0h4wk: put /home in a partition on your hdd
[19:46] <m0h4wk> jatt: what do you mean?
[19:47] <dreamcat5> Siilwyn: there is supposted to be one for Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ejidjjhkpiempkbhmpbfngldlkglhimk
[19:48] <SchrodingersScat> m0h4wk: during a manual partition setup you can tell ubuntu to place things where you like, so you could make a partition on you hdd and tell it to place /home/ there.  (Then all user files would be on the hdd rather than ssd)  You can do this for more than just home, but not sure what would be suggested in your setup.
[19:49] <elichai2> hey
[19:49] <elichai2> i have Ubuntu 14.10
[19:49] <elichai2> and I had no upgrades for more than a week
[19:49] <elichai2> any ideas why?
[19:49] <m0h4wk> jatt: I think I'm just going to save my all my physical files on my HDD manually by creating a shortcut to a folder there and keep the apps on the SSD. That would make more sense.
[19:51] <elichai2> here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/?C=M;O=A
[19:51] <jatt> m0h4wk: sure that's another approach that should work
[19:51] <elichai2> I can see that `utopic-changes` last change was in 22.12
[19:51] <elichai2> why?
[19:51] <m0h4wk> jatt: thanks!
[19:53] <elichai2> someone?
[19:54] <jatt> elichai2: maybe there are no changes since 22.12
[19:54] <elichai2> lol, i never saw so long time with no changes
[19:54] <SchrodingersScat> was really only a bit over a week ago
[19:55] <elichai2> I used Arch until a few months ago, So I'm used for updates every day...
[19:55] <elichai2> I'm thinking of upgrading to 15.04 :P
[19:56] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | elichai2
[19:56] <elichai2> kk lol
[19:58] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad on the ocean
[19:58] <Siilwyn> Thanks dreamcat5
[19:59] <dreamcat5> np
[20:00] <teward> network manager isn't scanning for wifi networks more than once every 5 minutes is there any way to change that?
[20:02] <jatt> teward: askubuntu is your friend:
[20:02] <jatt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53498/how-to-change-the-refresh-rate-at-which-the-network-manager-updates-the-wireless
[20:03] <Siilwyn> Something else about the network manager, does anybody know the order of the networks?
[20:03] <Siilwyn> It doesn't seem to be ordered at all, would be better if it got ordered by signal strength.
[20:04] <SchrodingersScat> mine seems to be alphabetical
[20:04] <BlueProtoman0> Help!  I'm on Ubuntu 14.10, and it won't boot!  When I try, it says "General error mounting filesystems" and dumps me to a root shell in maintenance mode.  I don't know how I can paste the exact error, as I'm writing this on my tablet.  Any tips?
[20:05] <Siilwyn> Mine isn't, I got: S, U, K, P, T, V.
[20:06] <Siilwyn> BlueProtoman0, have you tried booting with a installation usb or cd?
[20:07] <BlueProtoman0> Siilwyn: No.  However, I do have a Windows partition on this machine that runs fine.
[20:08] <BlueProtoman0> I don't have a means of installing a boot disk at tge moment.
[20:08] <Siilwyn> BlueProtoman0, I would try running it live just to test if it's related to Ubuntu not detecting it well or your current installation being wrong.
[20:08] <chrlsdrnt> f
[20:09] <Siilwyn> But I'm not an expert at all so maybe somebody else got some better troubleshooting tips. I do know installing Ubuntu on an usb stick is a pretty easy first step.
[20:10] <BlueProtoman0> Siilwyn: I've been running Ubuntu on this laptop for years, and 14.10 for weeks.   Check the contents of it. you can 'cat' or 'nano' /etc/fstab. You can find out the UUID of your drives with 'blkid'
[20:17] <Siilwyn> chrlsdrnt, how could the contents of fstab be changed all the sudden?
[20:17] <chrlsdrnt> an upgrade? I dont know but its the first place i would check
[20:18] <Siilwyn> Just curious. Would be really bad if an upgrade 'broke it'.
[20:18] <chrlsdrnt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/199487/general-error-mounting-file-systems
[20:19] <chrlsdrnt> I have had all sorts of weird things happen over the years. nothing surprises me anymore
[20:19] <teward> jatt: thanks
[20:21] <Siilwyn> chrlsdrnt, that's a shame, I switched to Ubuntu for reliability too. Had no issues for two years now.
[20:21] <BlueProtoman0> jatt: No.
[20:21] <dreamcat5> i had major issues after adding a 3rd party apt source which was a Debian - that really screwed it all up
[20:22] <dreamcat5> apart from that, it's been mostly ok
[20:22] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: Okay, so what do I do with fstab?
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> I've used it on and off since 8.04... Its been an interesting ride
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> Have you opened it? vi /etc/fstab
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> or nano
[20:22] <chrlsdrnt> whatever editor you want
[20:23] <BlueProtoman0> Ye
[20:23] <chrlsdrnt> ok so you should see UUID=NUMBERS/LETTERS followed by a '/'
[20:23] <BlueProtoman0> Yep
[20:23] <chrlsdrnt> should be 2 entries. one for root and one for swap
[20:24] <BlueProtoman0> I have three; got a separate home partition
[20:24] <chrlsdrnt> ah gotcha. if you cat /var/log/kern.log do you see anything about i/o errors
[20:24] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: did you try booting into the 'Advanded' --> Recovery gub menu option ?
[20:25] <BlueProtoman0> dreamcat5: No
[20:25] <dreamcat5> there you can run fsck on your / partition, repair apt-get etc.
[20:25] <chrlsdrnt> can u reboot to a hardware diagnostic to check the smart status of the drive
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: There are errors in the kernel log.
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> input output errors?
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> One, yeah
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> sounds like a failing drive.
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> BUT
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> there should be mulitple
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> no just one
[20:26] <chrlsdrnt> not*
[20:26] <BlueProtoman0> So why does my Windows parition still work?
[20:27] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: you should think about backing up your /home/ folder too
[20:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: run "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[20:27] <chrlsdrnt> you can boot to windows?
[20:28] <daftykins> or download crystaldiskinfo in Windows
[20:28] <BlueProtoman0> Yep.  Just fine.
[20:29] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: go fetch crystaldiskinfo then.
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> did any updates run before you rebooted?
[20:29] <BlueProtoman0> I can't install smartmontools, apt-get won't let me
[20:29] <BlueProtoman0> No, no updates
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> download crystal disk info
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> in windows
[20:29] <chrlsdrnt> http://sourceforge.jp/projects/crystaldiskinfo/downloads/58588/CrystalDiskInfo5_6_2.zip/
[20:30] <daftykins> oh look, an echo :)
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> yeah
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> haha
[20:30] <BlueProtoman0> My /home partition is encrypted, though
[20:30] <chrlsdrnt> sorry
[20:30] <daftykins> run it, point to: Function -> Advanced Feature -> Raw Values -> 10 [DEC] - then share a screenshot
[20:30] <BlueProtoman0> Gimme a few, then
[20:31] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: well if it's a seperate partition, maybe you can still dd copy the whole thing (if it's not too big)
[20:31] <daftykins> you have 4 minutes, Mr. Bond
[20:31] <chrlsdrnt> sounds like just enough time for a vodka martini
[20:31] <chrlsdrnt> shaken... not stirred
[20:31] <BlueProtoman0> dreamcat5: ~200 GB
[20:32] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: With a slice of lemon peel
[20:32] <daftykins> i recommend the portable zip version btw, of crystaldiskinfo
[20:34] <chrlsdrnt> I wonder what you would get if you tried to manually mount the file systems from the command line
[20:34] <chrlsdrnt> with 'mount -a'
[20:34] <BlueProtoman0> When I boot back to Linux, I'll try that and let you know
[20:34] <daftykins> i think you should consider crossing bridges once you come to them, find out the disk's status first :P
[20:35] <daftykins> and really, live media would be the best next step. why can't you create a flash drive from Windows?
[20:35] <BlueProtoman0> I have Advanced System Care already
[20:35] <BlueProtoman0> Because I have no flash drive or CDs on me
[20:36] <daftykins> so you're not home?
[20:36] <daftykins> advanced what?
[20:36] <dreamcat5> BlueProtoman0: i have easy2boot permanmently installed on a FAT32 partition of my HDD. no external media required, just the .iso file ;)
[20:36] <dreamcat5> you would need a very particular partiton layout however
[20:36] <chrlsdrnt> brb
[20:37] <daftykins> dreamcat5: not much use locking the horse pen once the horse has already bolted
[20:39] <darkdrgn2k3> ok driving me nutz i have user-session=myth
[20:39] <darkdrgn2k3>  set but it STILLS loads blackbox
[20:47] <Turingi> hello, has youtube-dl been updated recently?
[20:47] <Turingi> it's stopped working for a few weeks
[20:48] <daftykins> if it doesn't work, likely youtube has changed things that prevent it for now
[20:48] <daftykins> you'll have to play the waiting game
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Turingi: 2<IP_ADDRESS> was still working for me, there's 2015.01.03 now though.
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> and that means it was updated today
[20:52] <akpatel> hi
[20:52] <cfrieler> joespeakeasy: Volume won't mount with a simple right click > mount. If I go in and mount it with GParted, I can see the data and all looks fine. GParted reports that the GPT table on each of the drives is "corrupted", but I've seen that since the volume was created and assumed it was an incompatibility between MDADM and GParted.
[20:52] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: it's been ages, what's the progress? ;)
[20:54] <BluesKaj> cfrieler, don't make that assumption , gparted created a gpt table for this laptoip without much fuss
[20:54] <jatt> Turingi: it works for me on utopic
[20:56] <cfrieler> BluesKaj:  But that is a simple underlying volume - mdadm add another layer of complexity. Can anyone confirm that GParted works without issue on mdadm RAID5 volumes?
[20:56] <chrlsdrnt> BlueProtoman0: did you run crystyal disk
[20:56] <BlueProtoman0> The hell?  I can't take a screenshot of CrystalDiskInfo; when I try, the window just doesn't show up.
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> use snippit
[20:57] <ahop> Hi! I want to install 14.04 LTS on a VirtualBox with only 2GB of disk
[20:57] <ahop> Is there a light version?
[20:57] <ahop> without GUI
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> ubuntu server?
[20:57] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdrnt: I'm using Gadwin
[20:57] <chrlsdrnt> still need more than 2gb
[20:57] <kostkon> !mini
[20:57] <dasjoe> ahop: get a text based installer like the Minimal CD, don't select a DE when asked
[20:58] <daftykins> ahop: why 2GB? server will use 900MB minimum
[20:58] <chrlsdrnt> if its win 7, search for snippit from the start menu. take ur shot and upload it to the web
[20:58] <ahop> Desktop / Server / Minimal CD / are there other versions ? (so I can pick the best for my purpose)
[20:58] <daftykins> "snipping tool" is what's it's called on 7 and 8
[20:58] <chrlsdrnt> yeah thats it
[20:59] <BlueProtoman0> Huh, thanks.
[20:59] <daftykins> ahop: no
[20:59] <kostkon> ahop, the various derivatives, xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-gnome etc.
[20:59] <ahop> how to choose between Server version and Minimal CD version ?
[20:59] <daftykins> ahop: you download a different file...
[20:59] <cfrieler> ahop: Look at LUbuntu or Mint.
[21:00] <BlueProtoman0> imgur.com/LgQBDQd
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> boom.
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> bad sectors
[21:00] <chrlsdrnt> time to shop for a new drive
[21:01] <ahop> what requirement for server ? 2 GB disk is enough
[21:01] <BlueProtoman0> chrlsdnt: Mind elaborating...?
[21:02] <chrlsdrnt> sectors are the points in which the drive is marking 1's and 0's. As soon as a drive starts producing bad sectors its a sign of an immanent failure
[21:02] <chrlsdrnt> it could take weeks, it could take days
[21:02] <bekks> ahop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation
[21:02] <BlueProtoman0> And the bad sector just happens to prevent me from booting into Ubuntu?
[21:03] <chrlsdrnt> could be sectors that ubuntu was using
[21:03] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: that disk is toast. Windows is ok because it's in the good area of the disk (right now) but that disk needs to be replaced so you need to back up your data and get a new one
[21:03] <BlueProtoman0> How can I access it?  My home partition is encrypted...
[21:03] <ahop> Let's go for 14.04 Server ! :)
[21:04] <chrlsdrnt> with a live cd. I believe you can mount it if you have the key
[21:04] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: you'll need to make up a live disc ASAP.
[21:04] <chrlsdrnt> did you save the encryption key
[21:04] <BlueProtoman0> I think so...
[21:05] <daftykins> BlueProtoman0: is this drive in a new system, or old?
[21:05] <ggate> Can anyone suggest upgrade path for 11.10 install other then re-install ?
[21:05] <BlueProtoman0> daftykins: 2011 laptop
[21:05] <daftykins> ggate: no, it'd take way too long. backup and clean install
[21:05] <kostkon> ggate, upgrade to 12.04?
[21:06] <kostkon> ggate, still supported
[21:06] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Great, now I gotta freaking run to Best Buy
[21:06] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: get yourself a 4GB flash drive at the same time then
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> also I would turn your computer off
[21:07] <daftykins> if you're buying a new hard disk
[21:07] <daftykins> lol no that's not a concern
[21:07] <ggate> @kostkon , dist-upgrade didnt work
[21:07] <BlueProtoman> daftykins, chrlsdrnt: Is there some quick workaround I can do to be able to get onto Linux and access my files?
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> windows will run indexing and updates and just unnecessarily use the disk
[21:07] <chrlsdrnt> you can try an fsck
[21:07] <kostkon> ggate, you got 404 errors?
[21:07] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: yes it involves you buying a flash drive and putting ubuntu on it to make it bootable
[21:07] <theadmin> !eolupgrade | ggate
[21:08] <chrlsdrnt> like dafty said, the live disk is the better way
[21:08] <ggate> @daftykins , ok .. I think I know what that means .. I will check the link ubottu ave about EOL Upgrades
[21:08] <ggate> thanks alll ..
[21:09] <daftykins> ggate: wrong highlight
[21:09] <kostkon> ggate, it was theadmin
[21:09] <ggate> oh ok
[21:10] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Shit, then.  Think my disk will last another day?  I'm running some errands tomorrow and I'll get this while I'm out
[21:10] <daftykins> !language
[21:10] <chrlsdrnt> just keep the computer off until tomorrow
[21:10] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: depends how much you care about your data i guess :)
[21:11] <daftykins> yeah avoiding use would be wise
[21:11] <daftykins> if you already had a flash drive you could have disconnected it and been using a live session! :D
[21:11] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Man...so how much research will I have to do to get a new drive?  Is finding a new one gonna be a hellish ball of compatibility issues, or can I just get anything?
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, as long as it's not a sony or apple laptop
[21:12] <BlueProtoman> kostkon: It's a Samsung QX411
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, it should be easy
[21:12] <kostkon> BlueProtoman, ok
[21:13] <BlueProtoman> I need to decrypt the damned Linux partition...
[21:13] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: all the information required is already in your crystaldiskinfo screenshot. it's a 750GB SATA 300 (aka SATA II) hard disk right now. so 1TB+ would be nice, but i don't have a clue what type of computer this is?
[21:13] <daftykins> yes you've said 3 times now - and repeating that before having bootable media is NOT getting you any closer to a solution - so please apply some patience :)
[21:14] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388310,00.asp
[21:15] <daftykins> hmm, that's going to be fun. do you own any external hard disks right now?
[21:15] <chrlsdrnt> if you dont have it already, make sure u get a small phillips screw driver while your out
[21:15] <chrlsdrnt> unless its a torx
[21:15] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: No, I don't.  Is it "Good" fun or "shoot me" fun?
[21:16] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: well you're going to need a way to connect both the existing disk and the new disk at the same time, to copy data off it.
[21:16] <daftykins> so maybe you could invest in some kind of USB enclosure that allows laptop drives to be plugged in
[21:16] <BlueProtoman> Maybe Best Buy has one
[21:16] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: now we know it's a laptop, you want a 2.5" (inch) 1TB+ SATA hard disk
[21:17] <daftykins> yeah, i'm sure they have something appropriate
[21:17] <daftykins> you probably should have an external disk for backup purposes anyway though
[21:17] <BlueProtoman> How much will that run me?
[21:17] <BlueProtoman> Most of my stuff is either on DropBox or GitHub
[21:17] <daftykins> well believe it or not i'm not in the US, so i can't comment there
[21:18] <BlueProtoman> Hm...anything else I should know?
[21:19] <daftykins> ugh that thing has a non-removable battery
[21:19] <daftykins> depends, got any experience conducting surgery on laptops?
[21:19] <BlueProtoman> No.
[21:20] <BlueProtoman> All I know is that I need to turn it off and unplug it before I do so.
[21:20] <daftykins> indeed, normally i'd remove batteries too - but allegedly this one is sealed in. do you have any way of taking a picture of the underside? there aren't any pics on that pcmag page of the underneath
[21:21] <daftykins> i'm kind of leaning toward suggesting you ask them to do the drive swap really, at best buy
[21:21] <BlueProtoman> I might have them do that, actually
[21:21] <BlueProtoman> Hope it's not more expensive than just a new laptop of comparable quality...
[21:22] <daftykins> then you could reinstall windows + ubuntu yourself and you'd have your external disk ready to mess with to get your data back (if you buy a device to connect it via USB)
[21:22] <daftykins> nah they really shouldn't charge much at all for a drive swap, it's typically the simplest thing
[21:22] <daftykins> depends if your hard disk is directly behind an accessible panel on the underneath, as they typically are
[21:24] <daftykins> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236496
[21:24] <daftykins> something like that isn't too bad
[21:25] <daftykins> whereas this is a little fancier - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178340
[21:26] <BlueProtoman> I might just buy one at Best Buy.  My winter break only lasts so long, so if I'm gonna replace everything I've gotta do it before the semester starts
[21:26] <webflashing> Hi guys, quick question. Regarding Video Drivers, which option should I choose? http://i.imgur.com/8mmrfnt.png
[21:26] <webflashing> And if possible, why?
[21:27] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: So what can I do in the future to take better care of my next hard drive?
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: yeah just an example. if you don't care about battery life, vibration or noise, go with a WD (Western Digital) 2.5" 7200rpm SATA disk if they sell one of that brand
[21:27] <theadmin> webflashing: I recommend using fglrx. It's the proprietary driver that comes directly from AMD and as such it usually performs better.
[21:27] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I care primarily about capacity and speed
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: nothing, they all die. you just need a backup device, because you can't just get by with an internal disk
[21:27] <webflashing> theadmin: I appreciate it, thank you
[21:27] <theadmin> webflashing: The one that comes with Ubuntu (xserver-xorg-video-ati) is open source but may perform much worse in games and stuff.
[21:27] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: ok, go for one of those hybrids then - they're part SSD part HDD so you get capacity and a speed boost
[21:28] <compdoc> webflashing, try the open source, and if it isnt fast enough or has some issue, try the propritory
[21:28] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: How big do they tend to be?  My current HDD is 500GB; I get along fine with that, but I don't want anything smaller.
[21:28] <webflashing> theadmin: yeah I was actually gonna try some games as Im new to linux and wanted to see how it performed, so im gonna test it out and see
[21:28] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: screenshot said 750GB :) so as above go for 1TB+
[21:29] <theadmin> webflashing: I recommend TF2 as a "benchmark" of sort. It runs well even on oldish machines, so if it lags something's way wrong.
[21:29] <theadmin> Is also free and fun.
[21:29] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Oops, 750GB, you're right.
[21:29] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Thank you very much for your help.
[21:29] <webflashing> yeah I have a lot of hours into tf2. gonna download it first with the open source driver that comes with the installation and if it doesnt run well I may try fglrx
[21:30] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: no problem, see how you get on at the shops :)
[21:30] <daftykins> or 'stores' in americanese
[21:30] <webflashing> Well, thank you very much guys!
[21:30] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: You da man.
[21:30] <webflashing> Gonna restart to apply updates
[21:31] <gueriLLaPunK> i did a command in putty to list a bunch of stuff, but i cant scroll up far enough to see the whole list. the command is speedtest-cli --list
[21:31] <gueriLLaPunK> how do i scroll up or pause it as it's listing?
[21:31] <daftykins> shift+page up?
[21:32] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: command | less
[21:32] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: That will make the output scrollable.
[21:32] <SchrodingersScat> gueriLLaPunK: also consider running the command in something like tmux or screen in the future.  I know screen has a 'copy' mode that lets you scroll up, think it was ctrl-a-esc, then esc cancels copy mode.
[21:32] <EriC^^> gueriLLaPunK: or shift+pageup
[21:33] <gueriLLaPunK> thjank you guys
[21:33] <gueriLLaPunK> thank*
[21:34] <Apachez> is it just me or is there no ubuntu updates for the past 2 weeks, the last one seems to be that ntpd fix
[21:34] <gueriLLaPunK> i did speedtest-cli --list | less
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> and now its like stuck? it says (END)
[21:35] <anybroad> hi
[21:35] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: Use the up/down arrows to scroll.
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> and i cant ctrl+q or ctrl+c
[21:35] <anybroad> How can I increase performance for my cifs smb _client_?
[21:35] <zol> How can I make ufw allow outgoing connections from my local network through my router/server where I am running ufw? It seems to block all connections.
[21:35] <theadmin> gueriLLaPunK: And use q to exit.
[21:35] <anybroad> samba server is windows 7
[21:35] <SchrodingersScat> gueriLLaPunK: how about just q
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> lol duh
[21:35] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks! haha
[21:35] <bekks> anybroad: Are you using a gigabit connection?
[21:36] <anybroad> bekks: no, localhost / virtual network
[21:36] <zol> I've enabled nat/masquerading, and I have set up a dhcp server, so IPs are being distributed correctly. Only outgoing connections from my server/router seem to work, not from behind it.
[21:36] <anybroad> bekks: so I hope to tweak some special stuff which normally makes only sense with physical networks
[21:37] <zol> I did a sudo ufw allow out from <IP_ADDRESS>/24, but still no luck. Also sudo ufw default deny incoming.
[21:38] <bekks> anybroad: Can you be more specific? Like which speeds do you get, e.g.?
[21:39] <daftykins> anybroad: i've never had to 'tweak' things with samba to get good performance
[21:41] <anybroad> So it vmware workstation with nat.
[21:41] <anybroad> Windows 7 64bit is samba server, linux client with cifs+smb is client.
[21:42] <gueriLLaPunK> that speedtest cli is pretty cool
[21:52] <zol> How do I allow trafic to pass by my router that is running ufw?
[21:52] <zol> From my local network to the WAN?
[21:55] <daftykins> zol: got IP forwarding enabled to start with?
[21:58] <xdko> Hi everybody
[21:58] <daftykins> hi
[22:06] <zol> daftykins: As far as I can tell, yes
[22:06] <zol> daftykins: How can I verify?
[22:06] <Welshman> Hi everyone using this free chat room. I am new to ubuntu. But I do have a question. How do I install all the files from c2esp-27.tar.gz into Ubuntu?
[22:06] <jasper5> hi
[22:06] <daftykins> zol: so that means you're not sure? :) "cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" i believe, should be 1 if it's enabled
[22:07] <daftykins> Welshman: well first up, downloading gzipped tar's is not the best way of installing software in Linux land. are you sure a package isn't available for whatever that is?
[22:07] <zol> daftykins: Oh, yeah, that I have enabled
[22:08] <zol> daftykins: I see "UFW AUDIT" logs comming up for packets coming from my LAN to the router, and vice versa.
[22:08] <Tutunak> tar.gz have into readmi
[22:08] <SchrodingersScat> !info printer-driver-c2esp | Welshman
[22:08] <zol> daftykins: However "UFW ALLOW" from router to WAN
[22:08] <daftykins> !ufw
[22:08] <daftykins> zol: i don't think you've done enough required reading for what you're trying to do. have a look at the above.
[22:09] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: I would try to install that package first, if that fails you /then/ I would start to mess with the tar.gz.  If they didn't provide instructions on the website, then there may be a README within the tar.gz if there are specifics.
[22:09] <zol> daftykins: I have spent 4 hours reading at the moment. I can say that I don't understand the metaphor that is used in the documentation. From who's perspective is allow out/in?
[22:10] <Welshman> Also, a related question: can I include all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz with all the files of the iso of Ubuntu to create a new iso using Img Burn?
[22:10] <daftykins> zol: from the perspective of your network as an entity. 'out' is to the untrusted (internet)
[22:11] <zol> daftykins: Then "sudo ufw allow out from <IP_ADDRESS>/24" should work, but it doesn't. :/
[22:12] <bubbasaures> Welshman, To put in the iso you have to make a custom one, not for the beginner really.
[22:12] <Welshman> bubbasaures: Using Img Burn as I stated?
[22:13] <daftykins> zol: that doesn't sound right at all
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: I have two NICs, one configured for WAN, the other for a LAN with a subnet range of <IP_ADDRESS>/24.
[22:14] <daftykins> zol: yeah, i already guessed that much from the above
[22:14] <bubbasaures> Welshman, not that I have seen, that is a burner right not a custom iso builder is there even a linux download?
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: I'm running dns and dhcp and the LAN clients are receiving their IPs correctly and they can ping the router.
[22:14] <zol> daftykins: nslookup is also looking good from the clients.
[22:15] <zol> daftykins: However, ping doesn't work for google.com for example.
[22:15] <bubbasaures> Welshman, Is this a situation for a specific install?
[22:15] <zol> Or any other remote IPs.
[22:15] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: there's guides like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization but like others have mentioned, it's normally something that only sounds like a good idea, all the same you're free to.
[22:15] <daftykins> zol: is NAT in place correctly?
[22:15] <theadmin> Welshman: You can make a custom Ubuntu image if you are already running Ubuntu.
[22:16] <theadmin> Welshman: To do so, make use of the Ubuntu Customisation Kit. Is the easiest way really.
[22:16] <theadmin> !info uck
[22:16] <SchrodingersScat> neat
[22:16] <daftykins> zol: why are you even using a computer as a router? seems unnecessarily complex ;)
[22:16] <zol> daftykins: Not sure, how can I verify? I have followed the guides I have found; modifying the nat table in before.rules etc.
[22:16] <theadmin> Welshman: Other than that, I know no reasonable way to customise the ISO.
[22:16] <zol> daftykins: My D-link router is too slow for my 1 Gbit bandwidth connection. :)
[22:16] <daftykins> so get a new one
[22:17] <zol> daftykins: I can't afford one. :(
[22:17] <Welshman> bubbasaures: If I can use Img Burn to create a new iso of Ubuntu (files of c2esp-27.tar.gz + files of Ubuntu) do I include all of the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz?
[22:17] <daftykins> zol: ok sorry, you clearly don't know the basics. you need a NAT setup in place to translate from one side to the other, assuming this ubuntu system is directly connected to the internet connection and solely so
[22:17] <daftykins> try #ubuntu-server for more, as this is out of the scope of this channel really.
[22:17] <zol> daftykins: Ok, thanks for trying! :)
[22:17] <theadmin> Welshman: You can't do that.
[22:17] <theadmin> Welshman: You can't just modify the image directly
[22:18] <theadmin> It will break stuff.
[22:18] <SchrodingersScat> theadmin: cool, thanks for showing me uck
[22:19] <kaste> Hello, I want to run a command after startup but before user login and would like to avoid writing a startup file for it
[22:19] <theadmin> SchrodingersScat: No problem. It's a very nice tool if you know how to use it
[22:19] <theadmin> kaste: Just put it in /etc/rc.local before the "exit 0" line
[22:19] <kaste> is @reboot in crontab the right approach or do I need to go with /etc/local
[22:19] <kaste> s/local/rc.local/
[22:19] <kaste> ok
[22:21] <Welshman> theadmin: Why can't I create a new iso of Ubuntu which includes some or all the files of c2esp-27.tar.gz using Img Burn? It would make life much easier rather than 'installing' files separately. Please explain why not.
[22:21] <bubbasaures> Welshman, Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie.
[22:22] <bubbasaures> Welshman, You can make any iso you want, if you have the skills. ;)
[22:22] <Ben64> Welshman: your question doesn't make any sense
[22:22] <SchrodingersScat> Welshman: you have to work within how the livecd works.
[22:23] <theadmin> Welshman: Because, well, you won't see the contents of the ISO once you boot. You will see the root filesystem that's a compressed squashfs file on the ISO.
[22:23] <daftykins> imgburn isn't even capable of manipulating ISOs
[22:23] <dannymichel> if options to a linux command include -a -b -c, i sometimes see them combined. -av not sure why that makes sense for rsync http://ss64.com/bash/rsync_options.html http://mike-hostetler.com/blog/2007/12/08/rsync-non-standard-ssh-port/
[22:23] <Welshman> bubbasaures: Thanks for the info: "Not sure how it's done, tried to make a custom iso years ago and found it to be problematic is all, installing a tar in the install if the dependencies are there is a no biggie".
[22:23] <daftykins> why are you repasting what's above 0o
[22:23] <adunosine> hi any one here is a os developper ??
[22:23] <wad> Hey guys. So I've got a box full of digital video tapes, and my old digital camcorder. It connects to a computer with firewire. If I buy a firewire PCI adapter, what are the odds that it will actually let me get my videos off those tapes?
[22:24] <bubbasaures> adunosine, How is this related to ubuntu?
[22:24] <Ben64> wad: if the firewire card works, pretty likely
[22:24] <wad> Okay, cool.
[22:25] <adunosine> bubbasaures: i don't understand you ?
[22:25] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | adunosine
[22:25]  * wad goes to find a PCI firewire card then.
[22:25] <bubbasaures> adunosine, This is ubuntu support, not really seeming related to your question is all.
[22:25] <adunosine> bubbasaures: ah ok im sorry !
[22:26] <adunosine> it's my first time
[22:26] <imnichol> Hey, I've got a question about home directory encryption:
[22:26] <bubbasaures> !alis | adunosine, Cool, there is a bot search for channels
[22:27] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Which scripts do I have to look into in order to have apache NOT start automatically? TIA!
[22:27] <Welshman> Thanks to those who answered my question. I am now leaving the room. So all the best for 2015 + bye for now.
[22:27] <theadmin> nimbiotics: Assuming Apache uses startup, check /etc/init/apache2.conf
[22:27] <theadmin> Err...
[22:27] <theadmin> Upstart.
[22:27] <imnichol> I've got / on one HDD and /home/ on another.  If I pull the drive with /home/ on it out of my computer and reinstall Ubuntu on /, can I then plug in /home and use my user password to decrypt it?
[22:27] <theadmin> nimbiotics: To have it start manually, just put "manual" there instead of "start on [whatever]"
[22:28] <fam_> Is it possible to open an onscreen keyboard without access to a keyboard?
[22:28] <bubbasaures> imnichol, Back it all up no matter what is your best insurance.
[22:28] <fam_> using a surface pro 3
[22:29] <imnichol> bubbasaures, yeah I'm aware.  I'm asking whether it's *possible*
[22:29] <theadmin> fam_: System Settings -> Universal Access -> Typing -> enable on-screen keyboard.
[22:29] <fam_> I did that
[22:29] <fam_> nothing happened
[22:29] <theadmin> Huh that's weird.
[22:30] <nimbiotics> theadmin: Thanks for your answer. I'm looking at my apache2.conf and there is no "start on [whatever]" line ... Where else should I look?
[22:30] <bubbasaures> imnichol, Yeah, we just never know if it's the can I do this without a backup thinking process, or their all backed up and now executing the process.
[22:30] <tonik> "Caja cannot handle "sftp" locations"?!!   or "cancel". How can I find out what's wrong?
[22:32] <theadmin> nimbiotics: That's not the right file.
[22:32] <theadmin> nimbiotics: It should be under /etc/init/
[22:34] <nimbiotics> theadmin: I cannot find any file related to apache at /etc/init/
[22:34] <theadmin> Oh, hm.
[22:35] <Ben64> init.d
[22:37] <nimbiotics> Why is user ratsbe bullying in me private about my issue??
[22:37] <alejandro_> alguien de cuba
[22:37] <alejandro_> ??
[22:37] <Ben64> nimbiotics: you can join #ubuntu-ops and bring that to their attention
[22:37] <mellamokb> i am rdp'ing into a computer with a virtualbox ubuntu install. it is really slow. is there a way i can ssh directly into the guest machine when only port 3389 is open?
[22:37] <alejandro_> someone of cuba
[22:37] <alejandro_> ??
[22:38] <nimbiotics> Ben64: will do, Thanks!
[22:39] <nimbiotics> ALEJANDRO: que necesitas??
[22:44] <fam_> I figured it out, you have to log out before it shows up
[22:44] <fam_> the on screen keyboard, that is
[22:45] <fam_> thanks for the help theadmin
[22:45] <jimmy51v10> i left myself logged in to IRC at work.  how can i boot myself so i can register from here?
[22:46] <xangua> !ghost | jimmy51v10
[22:47] <jimmy51v10> ok.  seems to have kicked it.  now it says nick is unavaialble.
[22:47] <jimmy51v10> maybe i'll wait a bit
[22:48] <daftykins> join #freenode it's their deal, not the OS you run ;)
[22:51] <lahwran> ikonia, collizion: it *was* a misconfiguration on my part. somehow, this change allowed traceroute -6 (without -I) to work: https://gist.github.com/lahwran/38d5ef363403e9b4c608/revisions
[22:51] <lahwran> still working on figuring out why
[22:52] <nimbiotics> FYI: In order to configure Apache web server not to start at boot you can use this command: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[22:53] <capsul> how can i start my_script.bash like : $my_script ? everywhere ? because , for the moment , i need to go in repository shell and write $bash my_script.bash
[22:53] <capsul> have u got a solution ? for run it as skype,irssi,xchat....
[22:54] <ratsbe> capsul: use linphone
[22:54] <bekks> Name your script like "myscript" and run "bash myscript".
[22:54] <daftykins> does your script have a shebang?
[22:54] <capsul> bekks , its only for example , not problem with name of script :p
[22:55] <bekks> capsul: It is the solution. ;)
[22:55] <capsul> thank(s ratsbe  , i will look for this
[22:55] <capsul> bekks:  i need to go in nice directory , for put bash myscript
[22:55] <ratsbe> capsul: use the ppa version if it crashes alot
[22:55] <capsul> i want start him everywhere
[22:56] <capsul> ratsbe: ok :)
[22:56] <bekks> capsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH
[22:56] <capsul> minute , i will go check linphone , if it's my solution ^^
[22:57] <ratsbe> capsul: I thought u were looking for a communication program
[22:57] <capsul> ratsbe: totaly not for linphone -__-
[22:57] <daftykins> ratsbe: it's usually wise to read the questions
[22:58] <ratsbe> Blink
[22:58] <capsul> ôÔ
[22:58] <capsul> when i told skype,irssi,xchat
[22:58] <capsul> just example of script which can start everywhere
[22:58] <capsul> just if u call it
[22:59] <capsul> without way or $bash
[22:59] <bekks> capsul: Then put it in a directory in $PATH
[22:59] <capsul> hmm
[22:59] <ratsbe> Why does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper
[22:59] <returnthis> I am looking for some guidance as to the right thing to look for. I would like a network daemon that maintains a permanent connection for a client that loses network a lot.   client -> (magic?) -- permanent --> daemon
[22:59] <capsul> i will go check $man path
[22:59] <capsul> :)
[23:00] <ratsbe> Why does their always need to be a forum spell checking creep or a irc creeper daftykins
[23:00] <daftykins> !ot | rays
[23:00] <daftykins> oops.
[23:00] <capsul> ratsbe: keep sarcasm and take happy new year in ur heart
[23:00] <daftykins> ratsbe: see the above.
[23:00]  * capsul smile :)
[23:01] <capsul> $man path = No manual entry for path
[23:01] <capsul> :'(
[23:02] <bekks> capsul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[23:02] <capsul> google , my false friend
[23:02] <capsul> thx you bekks ;D
[23:04] <capsul> bekks: if i put myscript in usr/bin/
[23:04] <capsul> that work if i call him like $myscript
[23:04] <capsul> or i need to make action with "PATH"
[23:05] <bekks> capsul: You dont need to do anything to $PATH, when putting a script into a directory already contained in $PATH
[23:05] <capsul> :)
[23:05] <capsul> lot of love
[23:05] <capsul> lot of luck
[23:05] <capsul> lot of healt
[23:05] <capsul> for you bekks
[23:05] <capsul> and your 2015 year
[23:05] <capsul> :)
[23:05] <bekks> capsul: you're welcome :)
[23:05] <capsul> ;)
[23:06] <capsul> see you
[23:06]  * capsul go out
[23:06]  * capsul will write /quit
[23:06] <capsul> -__-
[23:06]  * capsul smile :)
[23:07] <johnb003> Hi I setup my server to share my internet connection originally with just a wan, and now I have added a new wired nic, and I'm not sure how I need to change my dhcp server to make it work on the br0
[23:07] <bekks> johnb003: DHCP does not work on a bridge.
[23:08] <johnb003> oh
[23:08] <johnb003> so each interface needs it's own dhcp?
[23:08] <bekks> johnb003: Yes. Most likely, you need to setup a router, not a bridge.
[23:10] <johnb003> I see
[23:11] <johnb003> to be clear I have eth0 to connect with the WAN, wlan0 which i used to have my dhcp run on, and would masquerade to the wan, and now I also have eth1, which I'd like to have dhcp, and allow connections on the wired nic and wifi to see each other
[23:11] <bekks> johnb003: No.
[23:11] <bekks> johnb003: You setup a router between eth0, wlan0 and eth1.
[23:12] <johnb003> how do I do that?
[23:12] <daftykins> johnb003: should be NAT you set up, not bridging. that won't work
[23:12] <bekks> !router
[23:13] <bekks> johnb003: You could set it up like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:13] <johnb003> daftykins: Ok, yeah I mean it was nat masquerading between wlan0 and eth0, just trying to see how to make eth1 and wlan0 see each other and both be able to nat over the eth0
[23:13] <johnb003> bekks: I tried following this guide but for the wifi it doesn't allow me to set master via this network interfaces. I had to use hostapd
[23:14] <bekks> johnb003: That may happen, yes. But thats still a router then.
[23:14] <johnb003> ok
[23:14] <johnb003> maybe i desceribed it wrong...
[23:15] <johnb003> but that setup uses a bridge too
[23:15] <johnb003> # Set up the internal wired/wireless network bridge
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> hi
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> ok this is driving me nutz.. Using Nvidia binary(319) and it wrk sgreat
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> untill i do somethign liek run CRHOME.. and then i MAY get a cool light show on the screen, and this in my dmesg
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> http://pastebin.com/bymCKauR
[23:17] <darkdrgn2k3> any ideas?
[23:25] <designbybeck> Linux Wacom question... Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04, my Wacom 4 tablet isn't plug and play anymore. I have to restart my computer everytime. Has anyone seen anything like that?
[23:26] <ejuan> designbybeck, i would run dmesg after you plug it in to see if its loading the driver for the tablet
[23:26] <designbybeck> just type dmesg in the terminal ejuan ?
[23:26] <ejuan> yeah
[23:26] <ejuan> or lsusb
[23:27] <designbybeck> I looks like it sees it ejuan
[23:28] <thequietone> alright, I've been having issues with wlan not working
[23:28] <thequietone> ethernet works fine though, hence how I'm online now
[23:29] <thequietone> can anyone help me get wlan functioning again? this is soon to be a major production machine
[23:29] <daftykins> thequietone: identify what the wireless device is first, "lspci" if it's an internal card, or "lsusb" if it's USB
[23:29] <designbybeck> ejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/55965
[23:30] <thequietone> daftykins: done that already, it's a Realtek RTL8188ee
[23:30] <daftykins> are you the one from the other day?
[23:30] <daftykins> i think that should work out of the box on 14.04 and 14.10
[23:30] <thequietone> probably. tested the live DVD and it was working, and I haven't made any serious internal changes
[23:31] <ejuan> designbybeck, check in the settings menu under mouse and touchpad
[23:31] <thequietone> I didn't report back because my sleeping pill had taken hold of me :/
[23:31] <ejuan> see if it shows up there
[23:31] <designbybeck> yep it shows up there
[23:31] <designbybeck> and if i unplug it it goes away there ejuan
[23:32] <daftykins> thequietone: hmm, i would run a "lsmod | grep 802" on both the live session and the install and compare them to see what drivers are loaded
[23:34] <thequietone> daftykins, it seems like the drivers are loaded appropriately on install
[23:34] <ejuan> designbybeck, does the tablet  work when you select and  enable it?
[23:34] <designbybeck> no
[23:34] <ejuan> hmm
[23:34] <tonik> is there a way to disable the X RandR extension, or (even better) make a program think it is not present?
[23:34] <designbybeck> when i move the pen over the tablet it the mouse doesn't move
[23:34] <designbybeck> but when i restart with it plugged in, then  Ican use us it
[23:34] <designbybeck> use it
[23:35] <daftykins> thequietone: yes and the command above will let us see if a different driver is loaded in the install, compared with the live session.
[23:37] <ejuan> designbybeck,  check the xorg logs do   tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log in the terminal
[23:38] <designbybeck> ejuan, http://www.pasteall.org/55966
[23:39] <designbybeck> ejuan, I show to be running 1920x1080(16:9)
[23:39] <elex> Hi, after a fresh installation of 14.04.1 I got stuck on "Switching to clocksource tsc" The device worked well on an older Version. Any Ideas or hints?
[23:41] <retroispresto> what's the command to change the ownership of a volume and all of it's sub directories from root, to steven
[23:43] <nonplussed> chown -R steven /directory/name/  (i think)
[23:44] <retroispresto> yay thanks nonplussed !
[23:44] <retroispresto> i just had to add the sudo infront of the command
[23:44] <nonplussed> thanks to you.  I'm just glad someone is actually making some noise in here.
[23:47] <retroispresto> how come when i put a space before a command executed with sudo or as root, it keeps the history?
[23:48] <nonplussed> not sure what you mean.  most terminals do keep a history, but the history will be user specific so if you are root you will see the history or the root user's commands
[23:48] <retroispresto> when entering a non elevated privelage command with a space infront, it doesn't write it to .bash_history
[23:48] <bekks> The shells keep a history.
[23:49] <thequietone> http://imgur.com/lbOUsIw I feel like I should point this out, on wlan I get this odd network behavior even when nothing else is using the internet. (Firefox and XChat aren't doing anything.
[23:49] <nonplussed> thanks
[23:50] <retroispresto> thequietone: maybe the dash preloading online results?
[23:51] <ejuan> designbybeck, maybe do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-trusty
[23:51] <designbybeck> HHmmm, what might that do ejuan ?
[23:52] <designbybeck> Guess I'll still have to reboot after that ejuan ?
[23:52] <ejuan> it installs the - X.Org X server Wacom input driver
[23:52] <retroispresto> designbybeck: install wacom ...
[23:52] <retroispresto> ^^^^
[23:53] <designbybeck> even though it should have been there by default?
[23:53] <thequietone> retroispresto: it doesn't do that on ethernet, I'm suspecting something odd in software
[23:54] <nonplussed> gotta go.  have a good day everyone.
[23:56] <irish> does anyone know why audio doesn't work in simplescreenrecorder under Ubuntu but works under Arch
[23:57] <retroispresto> irish: is audio muted?
[23:58] <irish> nope all the settings are the same from each distro
[23:58] <irish> i've fooled around with this for an hour
[23:58] <biffbaxter> retroispresto: add the HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth to the .bashrc file for root its not there by default and when you elevate privs even with a space it will show in history


[16:57] <s10gopal> how  to install JVM on ubuntu 14.04 ? i am installing a software and getting  "Version 1.7.0_151 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.8 or greater is required.


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