[04:12] <head_victim> nisshh: was wondering if you would like to hold one of your classroom sessions the weekend of the 1 - 3 April so it can tie in with the Global Jam?
[04:12] <head_victim> I was thinking of holding a translation session at some time on that weekend as well
[05:22] <nisshh> head_victim, possibly
[05:23] <nisshh> that might work
[05:23] <head_victim> I figured it was a good excuse to give it a kickstart with some stuff
[05:24] <nisshh> yes
[05:24] <head_victim> I had a fair few questions about translation from some people at LCA and bugs are always popular
[05:24] <nisshh> i just dont know what sort of turnout we will get when only about 3 people replied to my post on the ML :)
[05:24] <nisshh> im probably not experienced enough to do one about bugs
[05:25] <head_victim> Ah k, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam and see if there's something else you'd like to do then
[05:27] <nisshh> mole just replied on the ML wanting a session about bugs
[05:32] <nisshh> head_victim, the team meeting is next week isnt it?
[05:32] <head_victim> Tonight
[05:32] <nisshh> ah yes
[05:32] <nisshh> i might add a topic
[05:33] <nisshh> i dont want to pick a classroom topic that no one else wants
[05:33] <nisshh> hopefully we will have a half decent turnout at the meeting
[05:35] <head_victim> Here's hoping, I sent a reminder to the list yesterday I think it was
[05:36] <nisshh> yeah
[09:24] <Ben__> Hi
[09:24] <dns53> hey
[09:30]  * iflema a 1.x.x.x... heh
[09:31] <head_victim> Evening dns53 & iflema
[09:31] <iflema> head_victim: hey cheif
[09:32] <head_victim> Hanging around for the meeting in 30 min?
[09:33]  * iflema listens to the rain.... and me kittens dont work =)
[09:35]  * iflema in clementine that is.... i lovedthe old amarok and here it is....
[09:52] <head_victim> Evening MoLE_
[09:53] <MoLE_> evening head_victim
[09:53] <MoLE_> good turnout so far
[09:53] <nisshh> MoLE_, i count 5 people so far... :)
[09:54] <head_victim> Still 10 minutes, was just abotu to ping you nisshh to see if you'd made it :)
[09:54] <nisshh> heh
[09:54] <nisshh> i nearly forgot
[09:54] <nisshh> was literally about to go for a run :)
[09:55] <nisshh> seems only me and you have topics again head_victim
[09:55] <tom_a_sparks> just finished watching Conviction Kitchen on 7plus :)
[09:55] <nisshh> tom_a_sparks, whats that?
[09:55] <nisshh> not another reality cooking show is it?
[09:55] <tom_a_sparks> http://au.tv.yahoo.com/plus7/conviction-kitchen/
[09:56] <nisshh> oh ok
[09:58] <head_victim> nisshh: maybe we just get in too early with the good stuff :P
[09:58]  * nisshh reads perldoc while he is waiting
[09:58] <nisshh> head_victim, hehe, probably :)
[10:00] <nisshh> heh, Freenode is very quiet right now :)
[10:00] <head_victim> It's a bit weird, no ongoing conversations in any of the channels I'm in but here
[10:00] <nisshh> same
[10:01] <nisshh> and im in mostly non-ubuntu channels
[10:01] <head_victim> I lurk in lots of Ubuntu channels, only really active in a few.
[10:01] <nisshh> yeah
[10:01] <sagaci> Present
[10:01] <nisshh> im in less than a dozen
[10:01] <head_victim> Nice to watch the happenings.
[10:02] <iflema> ubuntu-offtopic cranking
[10:02] <nisshh> sagaci, hey
[10:02] <head_victim> Gday sagaci, should we start nisshh ?
[10:02] <nisshh> yes
[10:02] <nisshh> #startmeeting
[10:02] <MootBot> Meeting started at 04:02. The chair is nisshh.
[10:02] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[10:02] <nisshh> roll call!
[10:02] <MoLE_> here
[10:02] <tom_a_sparks> here
[10:02] <iflema> +1
[10:02] <sagaci> Presents
[10:02] <head_victim> Present
[10:02] <nisshh> dns53, ?
[10:02] <dns53> hey
[10:03] <nisshh> ok
[10:03] <nisshh> first topic
[10:03] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Ubuntu-AU Team Forum
[10:03] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu-AU Team Forum
[10:03] <nisshh> head_victim, all yours
[10:03]  * iflema looks up the topics :/
[10:03] <head_victim> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings
[10:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings
[10:03] <head_victim> Ok, as per last meeting it was decided to start up a Loco forum on the official ubuntuforums.org
[10:04] <head_victim> I was hoping to get some sort of feedback on the list as to the prefix the team would prefer. I have only had one response so far so thought I'd bring it here
[10:04] <head_victim> Is au. acceptable?
[10:04] <nisshh> i think so
[10:04] <tom_a_sparks> yes
[10:04] <dns53> yes
[10:04] <nisshh> most of the US loco's have the state prefix or name
[10:04] <head_victim> I'm not certain on this stuff as I am not an avid forum user in any sense so wanted to make sure it was acceptable.
[10:04] <nisshh> so au would be fine
[10:05] <head_victim> I couldn't think of anything better that didn't involve lots of typing :)
[10:05] <sagaci> Goes well with ubuntu-au
[10:05] <head_victim> Cool
[10:05] <MoLE_> sounds unanimous to me
[10:05] <nisshh> shall we move on then? :)
[10:05] <head_victim> [ACTION] head_victim to set up the au.ubuntuforums.org
[10:05] <nisshh> that was easy
[10:06] <head_victim> [IDEA] head_victim to set up the au.ubuntuforums.org
[10:06] <MootBot> IDEA received:  head_victim to set up the au.ubuntuforums.org
[10:06] <head_victim> And no one has objections to ikt and phlosten being the moderators?
[10:06] <MoLE_> no
[10:06] <nisshh> nope, thats cool
[10:06] <sagaci> Nope
[10:06] <MoLE_> kudos to them both for volunteering
[10:06] <head_victim> [IDEA] ikt and phlosten agreed to be moderators for loco forum
[10:06] <MootBot> IDEA received:  ikt and phlosten agreed to be moderators for loco forum
[10:06]  * sagaci is brb
[10:06] <head_victim> That's about it for the first topic then, I will post to the list when I have put the request in
[10:07] <nisshh> cool
[10:07] <iflema> too easy
[10:07] <nisshh> moving along then
[10:07] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Ubuntu Global Jam
[10:07] <MootBot> New Topic: Ubuntu Global Jam
[10:07] <nisshh> head_victim, you first
[10:08] <head_victim> I was wondering if people would like to contribute.
[10:08] <head_victim> My idea was to hold a translation session to help people out getting started
[10:08] <head_victim> For those who don't know here is a link
[10:08] <MoLE_> translation certainly has a low bar to entry
[10:08] <nisshh> i beleive this is face-to-face is it not?
[10:08] <head_victim> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[10:08] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[10:09] <MoLE_> face to face will be difficult
[10:09] <head_victim> nisshh: doesn't have to be, would be nice to have some face to face but being a geographically spread out loco I think online would be fine
[10:09] <nisshh> yeah
[10:09] <nisshh> im happy to help out remotely
[10:10] <head_victim> I was thinking a saturday afternoon session would be goo
[10:10] <head_victim> good*
[10:10] <head_victim> 2 or 3 ish
[10:10] <nisshh> i should be available
[10:10] <MoLE_> depending on time zone that would be ok.
[10:10] <nisshh> then
[10:10] <nisshh> head_victim, i assume you mean 2-3 your time?
[10:10] <head_victim> Yeah GMT +10
[10:10] <nisshh> ok
[10:11] <head_victim> After lunch, before people head out for the evening
[10:11] <MoLE_> Personally I'd get more value out of a bug jam than translation jam but I'm happy to be involved in either.
[10:11] <nisshh> well, for everyone except me, but yeah
[10:11] <head_victim> MoLE_: the idea is to hold several events
[10:11] <head_victim> I was just saying the one I can actually hold and I did get a few questions abotu it at LCA
[10:12] <MoLE_> interesting, what sort of questions if that's not too off-topic?
[10:12] <head_victim> Just how to go about it
[10:12] <head_victim> What to sign up to
[10:12] <MoLE_> launchpad makes it easy
[10:12] <nisshh> head_victim, one thing i think would be worth doing is advertising it throughout the ubuntu community
[10:12] <MoLE_> so should be fun
[10:13] <nisshh> would be cool to have a bunch of people from all over come and join in
[10:13] <head_victim> MoLE_: yes as long as you know where to look :) The idea is I show people where to look and then we get to it :)
[10:13] <MoLE_> done and done then
[10:13] <head_victim> [IDEA] head_victim to organise a translation session Saturday afternoon to line up with the Ubuntu Global Jam
[10:13] <MootBot> IDEA received:  head_victim to organise a translation session Saturday afternoon to line up with the Ubuntu Global Jam
[10:13] <iflema> head_victim: +10 or +11 daylight savings ends april 3
[10:13] <head_victim> nisshh: you had something on this topic to contribute to?
[10:13] <nisshh> yes
[10:14] <nisshh> i promised last year that i would be happy to hold some sessions
[10:14] <nisshh> on irc
[10:14] <nisshh> i can do one or more at this event if there is more than 1-2 people interested
[10:15] <head_victim> Cool, just need to figure out what people want to do with it then
[10:15] <nisshh> so no one is interested?
[10:15] <MoLE_> +1 interest
[10:15] <head_victim> You've mentioned you aren't certain about bugs, is there anyone here experienced enough with bugs to hold a bug jam?
[10:16] <nisshh> well, kermiac taught me, but i havent persued it enough since
[10:16] <dns53> i'd be interested
[10:16] <MoLE_> kermiac did a great tute last year
[10:16] <nisshh> kermiac wanted to hold a bug jam before he disappeared
[10:16] <MoLE_> gorilla was also keen IIRC
[10:16] <nisshh> yes
[10:16] <nisshh> i was about to say that MoLE_ :)
[10:16] <head_victim> Maybe we can entice them back with this one. Just need to make sure we have some mentors around for it
[10:16] <nisshh> he was taught at the same time as me
[10:17] <nisshh> head_victim, maybe i can get someone from the bug team to join in?
[10:17] <nisshh> i know many of them
[10:17] <head_victim> nisshh: sure sounds good, as long as the timing works out for the
[10:17] <MoLE_> that would be excellent
[10:17] <head_victim> them*
[10:17] <nisshh> yes
[10:17] <nisshh> of course
[10:18] <nisshh> i might also get hold of jono and see if he has any idea's to add
[10:18] <head_victim> Doesn't have to be on the same day but we could just schedule an afternoon of jamming so one jam led on to the next, whatever suits
[10:18] <nisshh> head_victim, maybe one saturday one sunday?
[10:18] <head_victim> I could also run a wiki documentation jam if people were interested but it's not as glamourous as bug hunting :)
[10:18] <nisshh> its not, your right :)
[10:19] <head_victim> nisshh: sounds good
[10:19] <nisshh> i would be interested in the wiki one
[10:19] <nisshh> ok
[10:19] <nisshh> i will chuck some info on the mailing list so we can sort out the finer details, agree?
[10:19] <nisshh> agreed*
[10:19] <head_victim> Sounds good to me
[10:20] <nisshh> heh, ok
[10:20] <head_victim> 3.5 weeks away so enough time to plan
[10:20] <nisshh> yeah
[10:20] <nisshh> anyone have any questions or shall we move on?
[10:20] <nisshh> dns53, MoLE_ ^^
[10:20] <nisshh> iflema, ^^
[10:20] <MoLE_> I have set up a public google calendar for the ubuntu-au team at http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ijuntcjmtkkl1180p7nkfbt3j4%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Australia/Adelaide
[10:21] <head_victim> MoLE_: there are already 2 other calendars :/
[10:21] <nisshh> yeah, i thought we already had a cal on the website?
[10:21] <head_victim> Evening jaddi27
[10:21] <MoLE_> ok then I'll look for them.
[10:21] <head_victim> nisshh: that and the loco people are trying to get people to use loco.ubuntu.com, the last item on this meeting :P
[10:21] <nisshh> yes, that too
[10:21] <nisshh> so lets move on
[10:21] <jaddi27> hi everyone - sorry for being late
[10:22] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Natty Narwhal Release Parties
[10:22] <MootBot> New Topic: Natty Narwhal Release Parties
[10:22] <head_victim> No worries jaddi27 glad you could join us
[10:22] <nisshh> jaddi27, no prob :)
[10:22] <head_victim> We need to start locking in times and dates and places for Natty release parties to allow us time to advertise them to the community to get people attending
[10:23] <dns53> any ideas for sa? i'd go to a pub this time
[10:23] <nisshh> anyone willing to host one?
[10:24] <sagaci> Sydney would have to be mid-late april for me
[10:24] <head_victim> I would host one in Brisbane as long as it lined up with days off.
[10:25] <sagaci> Always seems to be one in brisbane
[10:26] <nisshh> sagaci, well, thats were the highest concentration of us are really
[10:26] <nisshh> around sydney/brisbane
[10:26]  * nisshh is all on his lonesome :)
[10:26] <head_victim> The release date is April the 28th so we need to organise it around then
[10:26] <tom_a_sparks> me too :(
[10:27] <nisshh> tom_a_sparks, where are you?
[10:27] <head_victim> So maybe the Friday night the 29th?
[10:27] <tom_a_sparks> lightning ridge, NSW
[10:27] <nisshh> ah ok
[10:27] <jaddi27> In Queensland, that is the week after school holidays
[10:27] <nisshh> jaddi27, oh, your that young are you? :)
[10:28] <jaddi27> but some Unis are of then
[10:28] <jaddi27> Not quite - I am first year Uni
[10:28] <nisshh> oh ok
[10:28] <head_victim> jaddi27: ah ok good to know
[10:28] <head_victim> So what I suggest is that we each start a release party thread on the mailing list
[10:28] <tom_a_sparks> yes
[10:29] <head_victim> So if you want one in your area shoot the list an email to see if there is anyone else around. I would also suggest people contact local LUGs to see if they want to organise them to attend if they aqre interested as well
[10:30] <head_victim> There's probably not enough people here to start locking in dates and places just yet but I thought we should start getting organised.
[10:31] <head_victim> Anyone else have anything to add?
[10:32] <tom_a_sparks> I am converting people to ubuntu in my local here :)
[10:32] <tom_a_sparks> area*
[10:32] <MoLE_> just a question about the calendar but it can wait until after the meeting
[10:32] <head_victim> tom_a_sparks: good to hear, set up a BBQ in a public place with some signs and CDs and interact, that's a release party :)
[10:33] <head_victim> MoLE_: sure, it will be coming up in the next topic as well
[10:33] <head_victim> Evening gorilla
[10:33] <head_victim> We're just talking about release parties
[10:33] <MoLE_> glad you could make it
[10:33] <gorilla> hi everyone.. Tuesdays are awfule for me.
[10:34] <nisshh> head_victim, anything else you wish to bring up or shall we continue?
[10:34] <head_victim> nisshh: sounds like we should start some mailing list chatter on the topic and we're ok to continue
[10:34] <nisshh> agreed
[10:35] <nisshh> ok, next topic
[10:35] <nisshh> [TOPIC]Loco.Ubuntu.Com
[10:35] <MootBot> New Topic: Loco.Ubuntu.Com
[10:35] <nisshh> head_victim, you again
[10:35] <head_victim> So what I've slowly started doing is using loco.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <nisshh> i keep forgetting :)
[10:36] <head_victim> The idea from the LoCo powers that be is it's a place for LoCos to interact and get together
[10:36] <nisshh> im supposed to be using it :)
[10:36] <head_victim> So in the interests of using it more what I'm suggesting is we try to use it more for activities. We can then run an RSS or ICAL feed to the website in read only or something
[10:37] <head_victim> For mine it's creating a LOT of duplication and even triplication for my efforts.
[10:38] <head_victim> So I'm very interested in anyone with some web skills helping me out by automating some of the work.
[10:38] <nisshh> head_victim, ask blahdeblah, he is the website guy
[10:38] <jaddi27> What type of web skills are you looking for?
[10:38] <tom_a_sparks> what needed?
[10:38] <head_victim> Someone who knows drupal really
[10:38] <nisshh> i only really know web design + HTML +CSS
[10:39] <nisshh> i dont know drupal
[10:39] <tom_a_sparks> I know wordpress
[10:39] <head_victim> The website needs a theme update to match current branding and if we can get the RSS feed working off the loco site to the ubuntu.org.au site that would be wonderful
[10:39] <jaddi27> I have been learning drupal for the past few months - certainly not an expert, but learning
[10:39] <MoLE_> jaddi27 you sound like the most qualified here :)
[10:39] <nisshh> head_victim, there is a #drupal channel, has heaps of people in there
[10:40] <nisshh> head_victim, or, you could ask the loco.ubuntu.com developers
[10:40] <jaddi27> yes, that channel is very good
[10:40] <head_victim> nisshh: no doubt but unless people are interested in something it's likely to be forgotten so was trying to get locals to take some interest to make it work :)
[10:40] <jaddi27> I am fairly sure I saw an Ubuntu drupal theme
[10:40] <nisshh> yes, there is one
[10:40] <nisshh> i just dont know who to ask to get it
[10:40] <jaddi27> http://drupal.org/project/udtheme-2010
[10:40] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://drupal.org/project/udtheme-2010
[10:41] <head_victim> jaddi27: that's what I was just looking for
[10:41] <nisshh> heh
[10:41] <head_victim> See I'm useless enough to not even know where to begin when it comes to updating the theme.
[10:41] <nisshh> head_victim, there you go then
[10:41] <jaddi27> I haven't had much of a look at it, but if it is like the other drupal themes, it should be fairly easy to implement
[10:41] <nisshh> blahdeblah, probably knows how to apply it
[10:41] <head_victim> So I was kinda hoping to get someone who knows this stuff a little more than me to help out
[10:42] <head_victim> The main stumbling block is getting canonical to implement changes. But until I know what we need to change I don't want to start hassling them.
[10:42] <jaddi27> Installing a theme is basically just a matter of extracting, uploading and enabling, assuming it is configured how we want it
[10:42] <nisshh> yeah
[10:43] <head_victim> And as far as getting an RSS feed to the calendar part, is that difficult?
[10:43] <nisshh> dont know
[10:43] <jaddi27> I don't think it is too difficult
[10:44] <head_victim> Ok well I'll start another email thread on the topic to get some debate on what we could/should implement and see if we can get some people working together to get it to happen?
[10:44] <jaddi27> Sounds good
[10:44] <gorilla> That shouldn't been too difficult.. I have done that for a wordpress site that I have done in the past.
[10:44] <nisshh> yeah
[10:44] <head_victim> [IDEA] head_victim to email the list with details on updates to the ubuntu.org.au site
[10:44] <MootBot> IDEA received:  head_victim to email the list with details on updates to the ubuntu.org.au site
[10:45] <nisshh> ok, that everything head_victim?
[10:45] <head_victim> That's all I had for the loco.ubuntu.com stuff I just wanted to point out that it exists and that they want us using it more I think so that's about it
[10:45] <nisshh> ok
[10:46] <nisshh> thanks for coming everyone
[10:46] <nisshh> #endmeeting
[10:46] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 04:46.
[10:46] <gorilla> probaby not a bad idea as long as the update emails are not too frequent.. once a week at most.
[10:46] <nisshh> i will post the logs to the mailing list
[10:46] <head_victim> MoLE_: did we answer your question about the calendar?
[10:46] <nisshh> once they are up
[10:47]  * nisshh goes to have his dinner
[10:47] <nisshh> head_victim, ping me if you need anything
[10:47] <head_victim> nisshh: will do
[10:47] <nisshh> :)
[10:48]  * gorilla has to run also :-)
[10:48] <MoLE_> head_victim, I'm struggling to get a network calendar up and running.
[10:49] <MoLE_> The one on ubuntu.com.au won't import into thunderbird and the one on loco.ubuntu.com stays in utc
[10:51] <head_victim> MoLE_: apparently the mozilla lightning plugin makes it work?
[10:51] <head_victim> http://mcb.berkeley.edu/academic-programs/seminars/ical-feed-instructions/#lightning
[10:52] <MoLE_> I've got lightning installed and it will import the calendar from loco.ubuntu.com, but the times come out wrong (ie not in my timezone).
[10:52] <MoLE_> I'm testing it in google calendar now
[10:53] <head_victim> Ah ok, not sure if that is something to do with the drupal stuff or not :/
[10:54] <MoLE_> works ok in google calendar, so might be a thunderbird issue.
[10:54] <head_victim> Maybe it's whinging about the timezone conversion? The ubuntu.com.au should be in gmt+10
[10:56] <MoLE_> should be.  but it won't even import into thunderbird for me.
[11:01] <head_victim> I'm installing thunderbird now to test it
[11:04] <MoLE_> ok thanks
[11:05] <head_victim> Heh I fail I can't even get it to come up as a calender to import
[11:05] <head_victim> I downloaded the ics file and it doesn't put anything in my evoution or thunderbird calendars
[11:07] <MoLE_> are you using the ubuntu.com.au one or the loco.ubuntu.com one?
[11:07] <head_victim> ubuntu.org.au
[11:07] <MoLE_> yep, it's broken.
[11:07] <MoLE_> didn't work for me either.
[11:07] <MoLE_> loco.ubuntu.com seems to work
[11:07] <MoLE_> sort of.
[11:09] <jaddi27> I think the calendar on ubuntu.org.au is using the Drupal event module, which is quite old
[11:11] <jaddi27> So that might mean that the site is using Druapl 5
[11:11] <jaddi27> The main module for calendars now is the Calendar module, which may work better for exporting to ical
[11:12] <head_victim> See this is the stuff I have no idea about :)
[11:13] <jaddi27> Drupal 7 was released in January, so it might be time to do an upgrade, at least to ver. 6
[11:14] <MoLE_> To me, this is basic stuff that I need to work otherwise it makes it way too difficult to coordinate if I have to manually import the ubuntu-au calendar every week.
[11:14] <head_victim> jaddi27: I'll shoot an email to the list to get proper details, it is hosted by Canonical so we don't have direct access to it which apparently causes some problems
[11:15] <head_victim> MoLE_: exactly why I think it needs an update, unfortunately this stuff is way over my head. I can organise something that's already running but I have no idea how to set this stuff up to work to begin with
[11:16] <jaddi27> as the drupal Ubuntu theme is made for ver. 6 at the moment
[11:16] <MoLE_> I'm grateful someone is onto it head_victim
[11:16] <jaddi27> ah, that could be more problematic then
[11:16] <head_victim> jaddi27: yes, but until I know what to ask for we'll get no where, if I know what to ask for we might eventually get it :)
[11:17] <jaddi27> yes, hopefully we should get it eventually
[11:19] <head_victim> jaddi27: so yeah I was just hoping to get a list of things we need done to get where we want so I can put the request in.
[11:22] <jaddi27> head_victim: I think a start would be to get the theme updated
[11:22] <jaddi27> But to do that, it may be necessary to have drupal upgraded to version 6
[11:28] <head_victim> jaddi27: these are the things I need to know :)
[11:28] <MoLE_> nn all
[12:23] <jaddi27> head_victim: I just came across this - I think it will help out quite a bit. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDrupal
[12:27] <head_victim> jaddi27: sounds really good, the theme, header, sidebar, countdown and planet all might be worth looking into as replacements for what we currently have.
[12:28] <head_victim> Some sort of feed for the events and we should be good to go
[12:29] <jaddi27> I haven't looked at the ubuntu-au website much, so I am not sure on everything, but I think it should work
[12:29] <head_victim> I will research the process of how we go about making changes so when we know what we want I should be able to figure out how to get it :)
[12:30] <head_victim> Phlosten, blahdeblah and jbeake are all at some level of understanding of the website and/or drupal
[12:30] <head_victim> Just so you know who else is involved that hasn't spoken yet tonight :)
[12:30] <head_victim> And of course elky knows more about it than all of us put together :)
[12:32] <jaddi27> Yes, I am not surprised by that. I am slowly getting to know who does what around here, but will take a while to fully know
[12:32] <head_victim> jaddi27: browsing the wiki gives a reasonable guide
[12:33] <jaddi27> Yes, I saw that when I was updating all of the page layouts
[12:34] <head_victim> Thanks for that btw, was good
[12:38] <head_victim> jaddi27: email sent to the list :) Please let me know if I missed anything or not
[12:38] <jaddi27> ok. I might not reply until later, but I will get to it
[12:39] <head_victim> That's ok, it's just nice to know someone has read at least one of the emails I send out to the ether every now and then :)
[12:41] <jaddi27> I'm off now. See you all later.
[15:09] <head_victim> So close......
[15:10] <head_victim> There we go
[15:10] <nisshh> hehe
[15:10] <head_victim> nisshh: thanks, I am not a big user of the forum so glad to know how to get there for future :)
[15:11] <head_victim> That was a quick turnaround on the forum though, quite impressive
[15:11] <nisshh> yeah, i thought of that when i noticed how many links i had to click through to get there by not using the direct link
[15:11] <nisshh> agreed
[15:11] <nisshh> they are fast :)
[15:11] <nisshh> oops
[15:11]  * nisshh hasnt posted the meeting logs
[15:12] <nisshh> ill do it now :)
[15:15] <nisshh> done and done
[15:18] <head_victim> Cheers, you want to fix the meeting page on the wiki?
[15:18] <head_victim> I created the new event on the loco.ubuntu.com site
[15:19] <nisshh> head_victim, you can if you like, your better at it than me ;)
[15:22] <head_victim> Hah my secret is control c and control v ;)
[15:23] <nisshh> hehe
[15:37] <head_victim> If anyone wants to write about the new forum for our website that'd be great. I won't be able to get to it for a few days otherwise
[16:28] <nisshh> head_victim, ill do a post to Planet Ubuntu about it, see if we can get some activity
[16:45] <head_victim> Good stuff, feel free to submit it to ubuntu.org.au as a post as well to save the effort of writing something different, if you get a chance
[16:53] <head_victim> elky & blahdeblah I had a little play with the ubuntu.org.au links at the top right of the page. I think I've done it correctly but basically I just added the forum link and renamed the google group from forum to google group. If you can please check to make sure I haven't broken anything that'd be good
[16:53] <head_victim> Still learning this website stuff
[17:05] <head_victim> On that note I'm off to bed, night nisshh, don't think anyone else is still awake


[12:55] <afournier> hi
[12:55] <afournier> is it possible to get exec exit code in post-start ?
[13:17] <afournier> no it's not because post-start is runned before job is started


[22:24] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Is this something you can help with? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1562505
[22:25] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: if you wanna play; I'd be happy to let you try to do the translation update and I'll sponsor the package
[22:26] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: totally! that would be awesome! :D
[22:26] <tsimonq2> what do I need to do?
[22:28] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: IIRC this just needs an export of the translations from launchpad, extracting this over the current translations in the package, and then an upload
[22:28] <cyphermox> the instructions are in a README file in the package, I think
[22:28]  * cyphermox looks
[22:30] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I think Ubuntu MATE is missing .pot files.
[22:30] <cyphermox> flexiondotorg: oops, you're right that's different
[22:34] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: what package? can you give me more details than that? :)
[22:38] <cyphermox> not right now, because I don't know what's wrong with this. usually the translations get imported correctly
[22:38] <tsimonq2> alright, let me know :)
[22:40] <cyphermox> this is kind of why people wanted to make the translations get done in the bzr branch and not in the package itself, but it's not really the right time to do this kind of change
[23:00] <superm1> cyphermox: don't you need to update the shim in ubuntu to take advantage of https://github.com/rhinstaller/shim/commit/8f1bd605d05077a76502de5510cc937c4f4c62dd to be useful?
[23:02] <cyphermox> superm1: yes, but I'd rather have vathpela cut a new release, it's not critical that it gets in now
[23:03] <cyphermox> (because we don't want to ask Microsoft to sign stuff more often than necessary, and if it's going to happen soon anyway, etc. plus the roundtrip takes some time)
[23:04] <superm1> cyphermox: so then the ubuntu 16.04 release won't actually have the validation stuff that means then
[23:06] <superm1> (well i mean an end to end validation)
[23:14] <cyphermox> oh, it will
[23:15] <cyphermox> what this does is just let mokutil know whether or not validation is enabled in shim
[23:15] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: figure it out yet? :)
[23:15] <cyphermox> superm1: it's meant as an indication for mokutil / dkms / grub to know whether validation is already disabled
[23:16] <cyphermox> (that way mokutil --sb-state will be a little more useful in the future)
[23:16] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: yes, that's "fixed", in that now people just need to translate the slideshow
[23:16] <cyphermox> it had to be approved translation templates in launchpad, something I seem to not have access to do anyway
[23:16] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: oh alright, I can't do that, do you need anything from me now?
[23:16] <tsimonq2> okay :)
[23:17] <cyphermox> nope, sorry this was a wrong alert ;)
[23:17] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: any other trivial tasks for me to do? :)
[23:19] <cyphermox> it's not that I ask you to do anything, I'm merely suggesting things you can look at, starting at stuff that looks easy
[23:19] <tsimonq2> alright :)
[23:20] <cyphermox> but I'm getting to the point I will write my own set of "rules"; rule #1: nothing's as simple as it seems
[23:20] <tsimonq2> heheheheh


[09:45] <spicey> hello, creating my bootable usb stick with ubuntu studio here, i wonder does ubuntu studio 19.04 uses GNOME? and if so, can Unity also be installed on ubuntu studio like i just did with my ubuntu 18.04 lts distro?
[09:51] <M_aD> spicey: no, Xfce
[09:52] <spicey> ow ok
[09:52] <spicey> i wonder if i will like it
[09:53] <spicey> i'm about to replace ubuntu 18.04 lts with unity desktop by ubuntu studio
[09:53] <M_aD> it's a great thing we can have a look through a live session and then decide to install it or not
[09:53] <spicey> creating my usb stick now
[09:54] <M_aD> good luck
[09:55] <spicey> yeah well i read enough i know i want it for the software alone would save me some time and nice to have all interesting stuff i want to try together
[09:55] <spicey> thx hehe
[09:57] <spicey> truth is i only have one stick available lol
[09:57] <spicey> so had to erase ubuntu 18.04 lts
[09:57] <spicey> i can always switch back with some extra efforts :p
[09:58] <spicey> would have tried the live session otherwise
[10:29] <TJ-> you can install studio 'on top' of any Ubuntu install, using the package "ubuntustudio-desktop"
[10:37] <spicey> ow thanx
[10:51] <M_aD> TJ-:  wrong, if you want to install Ubuntu Studio on top of another flavor you need ubuntustudio-installer
[10:51] <M_aD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioInstaller
[10:52] <M_aD> ubuntustudio-desktop pulls in xfce too which means you end up with multiple DE's
[10:53] <TJ-> M_aD: well that works for me! I use Xubuntu :)
[10:53] <M_aD> spicey used plain ubuntu 18.04 lts which is gnome :)
[21:04] <cjoke> I have this message when I start ardour, [ERROR]: LADSPA: cannot load module "/usr/lib/ladspa/lsp-plugins-ladspa.so" (/usr/lib/ladspa/lsp-plugins-ladspa.so: undefined symbol: _ZN3lsp17builtin_resourcesE) , I installed the whole lsp-plugins package. that includes lv2, vst aswell. Will I miss something if I dont install ladspa package, isnt everything in lv2 (as in ported over)? Or do I want that
[21:04] <cjoke> package ? :->
[21:06] <cjoke>  1.1.10~ubuntu18.04.1
[22:02] <OvenWerks> you may wish to rename /usr/lib/ladspa to /usr/lib/ladspa.disabled
[22:03] <OvenWerks> There are some applications that can only use ladspa plugin like lmms
[22:14] <cjoke> OvenWerks: ahh, sorry, I ment lsp-plugins-ladspa
[22:15] <cjoke> maby I should just locate sleepgear  | grep pillow :]
[22:16] <OvenWerks> there are a number of ladspa plugins that have trouble being in the same machine as the lv2 version
[22:20] <OvenWerks> most of those bugs have sinse been fixed, but in general if the ladspa plugins are not needed I don't install them. But then, I don't use lmms because my particular workflow doesn't work with lmms. For many computer music makers it does.
[22:21] <OvenWerks> It is also ok to use only the ladspa plugins and not install the lv2 version, but that does mean no gui besides the generic one.
[22:21] <cjoke> I looked up lsp-plug.in and there was some options while compiling. I havent looked into it yet, but if I can compile without ladspa I guess I get all the plugins using only lv2 format. I am using ardour mainly, since Im a livemusician with wood and strings
[22:22] <OvenWerks> also, ladspa does not support synths, it just effects audio
[22:22] <OvenWerks> for Ardour, LV2 is the right choice
[22:22] <cjoke> well, if I need ladspa, I can run the application in a virtualenv and route it to the compiledversion they desire :)
[22:23] <cjoke> thanks :)
[22:23] <OvenWerks> as I said, just renaming the ladspa directory will make it vanish temporarily
[22:24] <cjoke> yea, probably easiest choice :D
[22:26] <cjoke> now, im gonna make out with pillow , gn! thanks ! :)
[22:42] <spicey> ok managed to install ubuntu studio, still not sure if i like this xcfe desktop thing, i need to find ways to make it look more atttractive.
[22:42] <spicey> not sure if making 'starters' is what i should do if i want all icons of my favorite programs together
[22:42] <OvenWerks> spicey: xfce is pretty much similar to gnome2
[22:43] <spicey> i wished i could add them to a tool bar or something like that not sure if i use correct english here
[22:43] <OvenWerks> spicey: you can make a second panel either horizontal or vertical
[22:43] <spicey> ow nice
[22:43] <OvenWerks> then stuff it with starters
[22:43] <spicey> that's what i want
[22:44] <spicey> aha
[22:44] <OvenWerks> or groups of starters
[22:44] <spicey> lemme see
[22:44] <OvenWerks> http://i.imgur.com/fTiIVve.png
[22:45] <OvenWerks> spicey: ^ that is the botton left of my screen
[22:45] <spicey> ow yes this i need
[22:45] <OvenWerks> You can basically drag icons from the menu to the panel
[22:46] <spicey> first find out how to add a panel
[22:46] <OvenWerks> right click on the panel
[22:46] <OvenWerks> choose panel-> pereferences
[22:47] <OvenWerks> At the top it probably says Panel 0
[22:47] <OvenWerks> beside that is a + use that to add a second panel
[22:47] <OvenWerks> sorry gotta run for a bit. Gotta get a chicken in the oven
[22:47] <spicey> ow yes i got it
[22:48] <spicey> thx for the help
[23:16] <spicey_> ok nice, creating a right panel with my favorite programs' icons
[23:16] <spicey_> i think i could get used to this