[00:12] <numberto> Hi guys, I am on ubuntu 13.04 with graphical card - Nvidia GeForce GT 520M, after installing official drivers unity broke. Remove it didn't help.
[00:12] <usr13> numberto: You removed Unity?
[00:12] <numberto> usr13: nope
[00:12] <usr13> "Remove it didn't help"?
[00:13] <numberto> usr13: sorry, removing official nvidia drivers didn't help (the one I have installed)
[00:13] <D-coy> m4v o7
[00:13] <D-coy> brb
[00:13] <usr13> numberto: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:14] <usr13> numberto: What does that ^^^ say?
[00:14] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:14] <usr13> numberto: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #Or just rename it.
[00:15] <OerHeks> gt520m sounds like optimus
[00:15] <numberto> OerHeks: yes
[00:15] <adamk> It does..  The Xorg log file would tell us.
[00:15] <adamk> numberto: If it is Optimus, you need to use bumblebee.
[00:16] <usr13> numberto: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:17] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/CS9Af3jY
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: You have to remove the 'nomodeset' option that you are passing to the kernel.
[00:18] <usr13> numberto: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf   or sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: That should get the intel driver working properly.
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: To use the nvidia driver, you need to install bumblebee, however.
[00:18] <adamk> numberto: At, at the present moment, there is no need to remove the xorg.conf file, if you have one.
[00:18] <numberto> I am going to try now.
[00:19] <numberto> will be back in a sec
[00:19] <adamk> numberto: Despite usr13's insistance, that's not the problem here.
[00:19] <numberto> adamk: which files contains the nomodeset, so I don't have to do it all the time?
[00:19] <numberto> *file
[00:20] <usr13> adamk: Didn't he just say that he installed the Nvidia driver?  And that he removed it?   Do you see:  "Warning, couldn't open module nvidia" in his paste: http://pastebin.com/CS9Af3jY  ?
[00:21] <adamk> usr13: Yes, I saw both.  Both are irrelevent to his problem.. Xorg is clearly attempting to load the intel driver, as it should.
[00:21] <adamk> numberto: Do you have an /etc/default/grub file?
[00:22] <usr13> adamk: I can only guess that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf is present and gumming up the works.
[00:22] <adamk> usr13: Whether it's present or not, it's not gumming up the works.
[00:22] <usr13> adamk: It is if it is trying to load a module that does not exist.
[00:23] <usr13> "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)"
[00:23] <adamk> Yes, as I said, I saw that message in the Xorg log file.  It's irrelevent to his problem.
[00:24] <adamk> usr13: Xorg continues, and attempts to load the intel driver, as it should.  It fails to load the driver because numberto disable kernel modesetting.
[00:27] <usr13> adamk: What video card does he have?
[00:27] <madrazr> Hello everyone, just to experiment I switched to Kubuntu and switched back to Unity and my fonts in Firefox are messed up. Is there a way to reset the Firefox fonts to default? I am using Ubuntu 13.04
[00:27] <usr13> madrazr: /join #firefox
[00:28] <madrazr> usr13: well, I think this is Ubuntu specific
[00:28] <adamk> usr13: he has two...  An onboard intel GPU and a discrete nvidia one.
[00:28] <madrazr> I just started Ubuntu on Live USB and compared the fonts set in Firefox and they are the same
[00:28] <madrazr> I have a feeling Ubuntu is overriding the fonts somewhere
[00:28] <caesar_abby> how do you send a command (like tail) to another computer (through ssh)
[00:28] <usr13> adamk: Oh, ok.  Well, it would be good to see what exactly they are.  (output of lspci)
[00:28] <caesar_abby> ?
[00:29] <chris_> hello
[00:29] <usr13> madrazr: What version of Firefox is it?
[00:29] <madrazr> usr13: Firefox 22
[00:30] <chris_> how can i decrease the file size of a image like ubuntu so it can fit on a dvd-rw
[00:30] <usr13> madrazr: There are font configuration options in Firefox.  (Firefox has it's own font settings.(
[00:30] <adamk> usr13: His Xorg log file lists the PCI IDs.  The intel is something along the lines of a HD3000, and the nvidia is a GT520M
[00:31] <madrazr> usr13: which look exactly the same on my current Desktop and the LiveUSB version of Ubuntu 13.04
[00:31] <madrazr> usr13: look as in, set to the same fonts
[00:32] <chris_> ubuntu 13.04
[00:32] <usr13> madrazr: You are on 13.04? or ?
[00:32] <madrazr> usr13: yes, I am on 13.04
[00:32] <chris_> my current desktop is xubuntu
[00:32] <madrazr> usr13: I just rm -rf'ed .gnome2, .gconf etc along with .mozilla, let me try logging out and loggin in again
[00:32] <madrazr> and see what changes
[00:32] <madrazr> brb
[00:33] <usr13> mashlol: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2051050  Maybe...
[00:36] <UnrealPh> i downloaded a theme off of the website, and i can not figure out how to install it..
[00:36] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, which website? there are so many...
[00:36] <UnrealPh> ubuntu.com sorry
[00:36] <clemenstimpler> where are there links to themes? *wonder*
[00:37] <Jake85> t
[00:37] <UnrealPh> sorry ubuntuthemes.com
[00:37] <numberto> .
[00:37] <usr13> adamk: I suppose we would need to know which one he's plugged his monitor into.  Right?
[00:38] <numberto> adamk: didn't work. My resolution got little bigger but no unity and the resolution is still not big enough.
[00:38] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin the new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:38] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, , from what I can see (the site is currently down) it is unofficial - you should stay away from that, unless you know what you do(which you don't, else you wouldn't be here). But:
[00:38] <usr13> numberto: What options does  xrandr  give you?
[00:39] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, there is a package you can install via the software center, called "ubuntu-themes"
[00:39] <numberto> usr13: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[00:39] <numberto> Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[00:39] <numberto> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[00:39] <numberto>    1024x768        0.0*
[00:39] <numberto>    800x600        61.0
[00:39] <FloodBot1> numberto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh, keep as a general rule: never use anything else but the software center for installing anything on your pc
[00:40] <UnrealPh> ahh ok
[00:40] <UnrealPh> i figure the website was linked with the offical
[00:40] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/PP2MQZth
[00:40] <adamk> numberto: Look at line 7...  You are still passing 'nomodeset' to the kernel.
[00:41] <clemenstimpler> UnrealPh,  I do not really thnk so - do you have a link to an official ubuntu page? this should be rectified, if it is the case.
[00:41] <numberto> adamk: hmmm, what am I doing wrong? I did reboot and in grub pressed e, removed nomodeset and ctrl+x
[00:41] <adamk> numberto: Not really sure...  But apparently you didn't remove it despite what you think you did :-)
[00:41] <doug_> how can I install ie6 in wine on my ubuntu 12.04 noteboot... ie6 is not available in the list of apps.
[00:42] <numberto> adamk: I will try it again.
[00:42] <doug_> in winetricks
[00:42] <adamk> numberto: You should really edit the grub configuration files and regenerate the grub.cfg file.
[00:43] <saiarcot895> doug_: that should be in #winehq
[00:43] <doug_> saiarcot895, thanks
[00:45]  * evil-work test
[00:46] <usr13> adamk: It puzzles me that it appears that Unity was working before he installed Nvidia driver. He said, "after installing official drivers unity broke".  (Sounds like he is saying that Unity was working before he installed the Nvidia driver.)  If he installed from the Ubuntu Repo, I would suggest going to nvidia.com and get the driver from there and install it.
[00:47] <reisio> might start with going back to what was working already
[00:47] <adamk> usr13: The nvidia driver will automatically add 'nomodeset' as an option to the kernel.  This will break any open source drivers, including the intel one. If he wants to use the nvidia drivers, he needs to first get Xorg working with the intel driver again, then install bumblebee and the nvidia driver.
[00:48] <numberto> adamk: removed the nomodeset. It fixed the resolution problem, but unity is still not here. http://pastebin.com/Xm5saYJ9
[00:48] <usr13> adamk: Yea, but is he plugged into the Intel card?  Or is he plugged into the Nvidia GeForce GT 520M?
[00:50] <adamk> numberto: Can you bring up a terminal?  Your running this on the internal laptop screen, right?
[00:50] <usr13> adamk: At any rate, he is on vesa driver now, which will not do anything beyond 1024x768
[00:50] <adamk> usr13: Did you not even see his current pastebin?  He's using the intel driver now that he removed the nomodeset option.
[00:51] <numberto> adamk: yes. When I log in I see only my desktop. Then I just Ctrl+atl+T and start all other apps.
[00:51] <adamk> numberto: can you start unity from the terminal?
[00:52] <numberto> adamk: I tried, but now windows don't have top bars
[00:52] <numberto> adamk: unity is still not working
[00:54] <adamk> numberto: Can you pastebin the output of 'glxinfo' ?
[00:54] <adamk> Or not...
[00:55] <numberto> adamk: I was restarting X, did I miss any messages?
[00:55] <usr13> numberto:  glxinfo | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[00:56] <usr13> numberto: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #And send resulting URL
[00:57] <numberto> usr13:  glxinfo http://pastebin.com/KkUpUqwj
[00:57] <numberto> usr13: xorg.conf is empty
[00:58] <usr13> Ok
[00:58] <adamk> numberto: Well we know you are at least now using the intel driver, and that it is working properly...
[00:59] <ehhh> lol, linux music players are even pickier than me on the tags
[00:59] <usr13> numberto: xrandr | pastebinit   #Send URL
[01:00] <reisio> tags?
[01:00] <ehhh> the fk
[01:00] <adamk> numberto: Somewhere between installing the nvidia driver and removing it, something happened to your unity configuration...  If you run 'unity --replace &' in a terminal, what happens? Does it crash?
[01:01] <ehhh> the song / artist information etc
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: resetting unity helped. I used these 2 commands
[01:01] <reisio> http://lordikc.free.fr/wordpress/?p=689 nom nom
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/     and    setsid unity
[01:01] <numberto> adamk: everything works now
[01:01] <bray90820> if there is any possible way to get IE 11 installed in wine then we can have netflix on ubuntu
[01:01] <bray90820> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/26/netflix-html5-streaming-on-microsofts-ie11/
[01:02] <ehhh> like the songs usually line up from, i.e. 1-10, now it's like 12,13,14,1,2,3,5,6,4,7
[01:02] <numberto> thanks guys for all your support. I really appreciate.
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: Woohoo :-)
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: Now, if you want to get the nvidia GPU working, look into bumblbee.
[01:02] <adamk> numberto: If you're happy with just using the intel GPU, then stick with that :-)
[01:02] <numberto> adamk: unity --replace is a deprecated function :)
[01:03] <numberto> adamk: wait, I don't use nvidia one now?
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: Yeah, I saw that when I tried :-)
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: No, you are using the intel GPU.
[01:03] <usr13> bray90820: Have you tried yet?
[01:03] <numberto> adamk: I have bubmblebee though, shouldn't both work now?
[01:03] <adamk> numberto: You tell me :-)  You said that when you installed the nvidia driver, it didn't work properly...
[01:04] <adamk> numberto: You can't use *just* the nvidia driver on an optimus laptop.  You have to have Xorg configured to use the intel GPU (as that's hardwired to the display), and then use bumblebee to load the nvidia GL driver when running 3D applications.
[01:05] <numberto> adamk: how can i test to see nvidia is working.
[01:05] <adamk> numberto: I can tell you right now it's not...
[01:05] <ehhh> anyway i'm completely in love with xfce / xubuntu, it's running so smoothly i didn't think i could blast this life into a 7 year old computer
[01:05] <numberto> adamk: is there a way to make it work?
[01:06] <usr13> numberto: Did you install from Ubuntu repo or did you download from nvidia.com?
[01:06] <adamk> numberto: I've never setup bumblebee and the nvidia driver.  Clearly, since you removed the nvidia driver, it's not going to work at the moment. What directions did you use to setup bumblebee?
[01:06] <ehhh> you'd think the motherboard would malfunction like everything did in windows when it ran, especially after all the kicks this thing's been through lol
[01:06] <numberto> usr13: ubuntu repo
[01:07] <numberto> adamk:  I used the one on ubuntu's official wiki
[01:07] <bray90820> usr13: i have not
[01:07] <bray90820> i have not tried it yeat
[01:07] <numberto> adamk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:08] <ehhh> !ot
[01:08] <adamk> numberto: OK, well you can try again, but this time make sure that 'nomodset' is *not* passed to the kernel.  That will break the intel driver, which is necessary on optimus.
[01:08] <numberto> adamk: do I have to unistall everything first?
[01:10] <adamk> numberto: If it were me, I'd remove the packages it told you install in step 3 and then start from step 3 again, though I don't know if that is strictly necessary.
[01:13] <numberto> I am not pro in irc, but if I want to send message to 2 or more people at the same time, how do I do that?
[01:15] <usr13> adamk: If it were me, I'd download from Nvidia and use their install.
[01:16] <usr13> adamk: Is he 64bit or 32?
[01:16] <adamk> I wouldn't.
[01:16] <usr13> Why not?
[01:17] <usr13> Because of subsequent kernel upgrades?
[01:17] <adamk> Because I don't ever recommend that for users on Ubuntu unless they really know what they are doing...  numberto isn't an expert.
[01:17] <usr13> numberto: Are you 64bit or 32bit?
[01:17] <numberto> usr13: 64 bit
[01:18] <numberto> adamk: I missed what you were talking because a restart. What exactly you don't recommend to do?
[01:18] <usr13> numberto: adamk There is Version 319.32 Release Date Tue Jun 25, 2013 See: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/63034
[01:18] <adamk> numberto: I don't recommend installing the nvidia driver directly from nvidia.com.  The one in the bumblebee repo should be designed to properly work with bumblebee.
[01:20] <daftykins> even the Linux one is growing in size rapidly :(
[01:21] <duskye> question: I used winetricks to install steam, but I can't seem to find where it installed it.
[01:21] <duskye> I checked in .wine but it doesn't show it there
[01:21] <usr13> Ok, gotta go for now....
[01:21] <duskye> And I know it's installed because I'm using it right now atm
[01:21] <numberto> adamk: looks like optirun works, does it mean that nvidia card is working now?
[01:22] <duskye> So does anyone know the directory?
[01:22] <adamk> numberto: Pastebin the output of 'optirun glxinfo'
[01:23] <numberto> http://pastebin.com/TRMdmwNq
[01:23] <numberto> adamk: http://pastebin.com/TRMdmwNq
[01:24] <adamk> numberto: Yep, it looks like it's working now.
[01:24] <nightfly> Hello, are the the init scripts for haproxy just terminally broken on Ubuntu Precise or has anyone actually had them work for them?
[01:24] <numberto> adamk: thanks for help. I spend literally hours trying to figure it out.
[01:25] <rmobenchain> I'm trying to watch some work related videos using Google Chrome on an Ubuntu 13.04 OS but am being told "Java (TM) is required to display some elements on this page."  What does this mean, and how do I fix the issue.  Am a bit lost here
[01:25] <nightfly> Well, you probably want icedtea installed
[01:26] <reisio> rmobenchain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin
[01:28] <rmobenchain> reisio:  another tab opened showing, "Please wait  The package you requested will install shortly." but nothing is happening
[01:28] <reisio> tab?
[01:29] <reisio> rmobenchain: oh, we don't click on links to install packages :)
[01:29] <reisio> rmobenchain: try sudo apt-get install icedtea6-plugin
[01:29] <rmobenchain> reisiso: I should've known that!!  :D
[01:30] <reisio> :D
[01:32] <LoveIsFraud> Ahghhhhhhh
[01:33] <ssms27> packetpushers
[01:33] <rmobenchain> reisio:: SUCCESS!!  Thank you!!
[01:39] <duskye> So did uh, anyone see my question?
[01:39] <reisio> duskye: I saw that one
[01:40] <duskye> Ah
[01:40] <duskye> Do you know where it's installed then?
[01:40] <duskye> Beacuse I've been looking everywhere
[01:40] <reisio> duskye: you used winetricks to install steam
[01:40] <reisio> duskye: it'd probably be in ~/.wine somewhere
[01:40] <duskye> Yes
[01:41] <reisio> duskye: find ~/.wine -iname '*steam*'
[01:41] <reisio> duskye: might also be findable via the dash/board thing
[01:43] <duskye> reisio nope it's not in ~/.wine
[01:43] <duskye> I found it in the dash though
[01:43] <reisio> :D
[01:43] <duskye> But the problem still remains as to _where_ it's installed
[01:43] <harris> hey
[01:43] <reisio> duskye: what did you run to "install" it?
[01:43] <duskye> just winetricks steam
[01:43] <duskye> that's it
[01:43] <harris> will ubuntu ever be available for the raspberry pi
[01:43] <reisio> duskye: okay it probably has its own prefix, then
[01:44] <reisio> duskye: ls -a ~/ | grep -i steam
[01:44] <reisio> harris: pretty sure Ubuntu already supports ARM
[01:45] <OerHeks> harris no, rasp pi is arm6 and ubuntu needs arm7+, join #ubuntu-arm for support
[01:45] <reisio> debian it is :p
[01:45] <duskye> reisio nope
[01:45] <reisio> raspberry pis are already pretty long in the tooth, though
[01:45] <duskye> it only sees Steam for Linux
[01:45] <reisio> duskye: well, find ~/ -iname '*steam*' then
[01:46] <duskye> I did
[01:46] <duskye> it didn't find anything
[01:46] <reisio> duskye: oh wait I'm seeing it here
[01:46] <reisio> duskye: look in /opt/
[01:46] <reisio> which actually makes sense
[01:46] <reisio> didn't realize winetricks had gotten so massive
[01:46] <reisio> 18144 lines
[01:47] <duskye> There is nothing in /opt/
[01:47] <harris> ok bye
[01:47] <duskye> Like I said I've been looking everywhere for where it's installed
[01:48] <reisio> duskye: if it's not in ~/ and it's not in /opt/, I doubt it's anywhere at all :)
[01:48] <duskye> But I'm running it right now in fact
[01:48] <duskye> I can even screenshot the empty folder lol
[01:48] <DreamFrog> I have a question about backtrack 5r3
[01:48] <reisio> duskye: okay, ps aux | grep -i steam
[01:49] <reisio> DreamFrog: maybe ask #backtrack
[01:49] <reisio> or #linux
[01:49] <k1l> !backtrack | DreamFrog
[01:49] <duskye> Ok I think we're getting somewhere now
[01:49] <reisio> or k1l could spam you about it, fun
[01:49] <duskye> It sees :\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe
[01:49] <duskye> *C:
[01:49] <duskye> Now I just have to figure out where that is
[01:49] <reisio> duskye: can you paste the complete line?
[01:50] <duskye> sure
[01:50] <duskye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803393/
[01:50] <reisio> weird
[01:50] <OerHeks> why steam trough wine ?
[01:51] <reisio> OerHeks: for the money of course
[01:51] <duskye> OerHecks: To install games that are not on Steam for Linux?
[01:51] <cgtdk> reisio: for the money?
[01:51] <reisio> the cash
[01:51] <cgtdk> what cash?
[01:51] <OerHeks> huh trough wine you get more games ? ?
[01:52] <reisio> cgtdk: good question
[01:52] <cgtdk> OerHeks: Yes, not all games have native versions for Linux
[01:52] <k1l> OerHeks: not all agmes are ported to native linux support.
[01:52] <duskye> Only other thing I could give you to help is that if I try to "Browser Local Files" through steam, Wine Exploler sends me straight too it
[01:52] <duskye> http://imgur.com/rMwpufH
[01:53] <reisio> duskye: ~/.local/share/wineprefixes/
[01:53] <duskye> Ahhhh there it is
[01:54] <duskye> Thank you.
[01:54] <reisio> I s'pose there are worse places than ~/.local
[01:54] <duskye> mhm
[01:54] <duskye> But thanks again, I've been looking for it all day.
[01:55] <reisio> find ~/ would have found it
[01:55] <reisio> so you clearly didn't run it :p
[01:55] <duskye> I did
[01:55] <reisio> lies :p
[01:55] <reisio> maybe you were root
[01:55] <duskye> I was not
[01:55] <reisio> sure sure :p
[01:56] <duskye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803412/
[01:57] <duskye> see?
[01:57] <Davai> ld
[01:59] <reisio> duskye: doesn't show the command you ran
[01:59] <duskye> find ~/ steam
[02:00] <reisio> 'find ~/ steam' just finds all files in the paths '~/' and 'steam'
[02:00] <reisio> 'steam' not existing, it only did the former
[02:00] <duskye> Ah
[02:00] <reisio> you'd of wanted find ~/ -iname '*steam*'
[02:00] <duskye> Ahh
[02:00] <duskye> I must have forgot to type it
[02:00] <reisio> :D
[02:00] <reisio> find -shangrila
[02:03] <phix> hey, is there are symlink / script to call what ever the default web browser is on a ubuntu system?
[02:03] <phix> call / execute / run kit
[02:03] <phix> it
[02:19] <jonny_> Could use a little help troubleshooting NFS on 13.04 Server.  /etc/export is setup as follows:  <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,async,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,crossmnt,fsid=0)
[02:20] <jonny_> I can connect to the share through OS X 10.7 but only through root... What to do?
[02:21] <evil-work> deinstall OSX
[02:21] <jonny_> Hahaha, good one!
[02:22] <evil-work> wow, a fanboy with humor
[02:24] <jonny_> really, left the feline nomenclature camp in '08 but some friends not so daring
[02:24] <spope> hi, I'm having trouble getting a 10.04 ubuntu box to show the login prompt at bootup, whats worse is the network isn't work, so I can't get in there either. Is there a way to bypass the majority of the boot strap process to get to the login?
[02:28] <somsip> !text | spope
[02:28] <Es0teric> whats the grep command to look at all processes running on the terminal?
[02:29] <somsip> spope: though I appreciate that will go through some steps you may not want to go through
 You have any NFS experience? Thinking this might have to do with user permissions
[02:29] <somsip> Es0teric: ps aux
[02:29] <Es0teric> i mean theres a grep command that lets you see the name of a program thats running... i forgot how the command goes
[02:29] <somsip> Es0teric: ps aux | grep programname
[02:29] <Es0teric> somsip ah, got it.. thanks man
[02:29] <spope> somsip: thanks. this is a server, not a desktop, so when you say text mode, are you just referring to not booting into X?
[02:29] <somsip> spope: yep
[02:30] <spope> so if the login screen isn't even showing up in text mode, to start, whats next?
[02:30] <Es0teric> crap... this makes it very difficult to stop elasticsearch
[02:30] <somsip> spope: but 'show the login prompt' is confusing. If it's a server, how are you logging in? SSH? Is SSH daemon not working?
[02:30] <Es0teric> somsip whats the command to stop all programs with the specific name?
[02:31] <spope> Im accessing the console on vmware
[02:31] <somsip> Es0teric: killall programname
[02:31] <spope> mostly because the network connection is not working either
[02:32] <Es0teric> somsip it says No matching processes belonging to you were found
[02:32] <somsip> spope: so how have you got to console if it won't show the login prompt? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your root problem here
[02:32] <somsip> Es0teric: are you using the right name?
[02:32] <Es0teric> somsip yes, i am trying to killall elasticsearch
[02:34] <spope> vmware will show you the "console", and by that I mean the default output, like if you had a screen connected to the server. by login prompt, I mean the system starts to boot up, and you see it going thru the bootup process, loading drivers etc, but it never gets to a place where it asks you for your user/pass.
[02:34] <somsip> Es0teric: is it running as elasticsearch? Or is it running in a shell? Try /var/run/ to see if there is a pid file for it
[02:34] <spope> you can always login to the server thru the console as well, but it never gets to that final state
[02:35] <Es0teric> somsip so you mean /var/run/ elasticsearch
[02:35] <Es0teric> ?
[02:35] <somsip> spope: so you cannot log in at all. Maybe you need to recover from a backup
[02:36] <spope> somsip: that is a potential solution
[02:36] <somsip> Es0teric: there *may* be something like /var/run/elasticsearch.pid that contains a pid you can kill with 'kill pid'. Maybe not though
[02:36] <somsip> !rescue | spope
[02:36] <somsip> sp - no - sorry.  You can try with more params to really kill it if it refuses to die. man kill
[02:38] <Es0teric> somsip alright
[02:39] <Es0teric> somsip perfect, elasticsearch process was killed... now i need to start it up again
[02:39] <somsip> Es0teric: cool
[02:39] <Es0teric> somsip thanks for the help, man i appreciate it
[02:39] <somsip> Es0teric: np
[02:54] <spope> somsip: what will the recovery do exactly? resintall the OS?
[02:55] <somsip> spope: I'm not sure to be honest. That page implies you will see this screen, but it's not a reinstall. I think it just gives you filesystem access and not much else.
[02:55] <spope> fair enough
[02:55] <somsip> *this screen being the install screen
[02:57] <histo> spope: try booting in single user or recovery mode
[02:58] <spope> histo: how do you do that?
[02:58] <spope> the only thing I was able to find was holding shift when I booted, that displayed several kernels i could use, but no rescue mode
[03:01] <histo> spope: should be at the bottom of the kernel list
[03:02] <juxta> I'm thinking of seting up a crypto volume using cryptsetup - is there a way I can benchmark various crypto algorithms on my hardware?
[03:02] <histo> spope: or press e to edit one of your kernel lines and append single to the end of the line
[03:03] <spope> a space before single? XXX single?
[03:03] <usr13> yes
[03:09] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: Hey it was you that helped me earlier problem solved, thanks allot dude
[03:09] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: It's working fast again like it did before the upgrade also.
[03:09] <Ari-Yang> @ _helios_ I did? what did I help you with again? lol XD;
[03:09] <Ari-Yang> and that's good to here everything worked out, you're welcome :3
[03:10] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: the graphics driver
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> ah
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> you chose the proprietary one right?
[03:10] <_helios_> Ari-Yang: I have it set to a propietary and everything is working fast again lol
[03:10] <_helios_> no more crashing
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> yeah
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> I remember
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> nice!
[03:11] <_ACE_> hi
[03:12] <usr13> low
[03:15] <_ACE_> usr: showing a friend werchat from an android to raspberry pi :)
[03:16] <usr13> IC
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> _ACE_, usr13, just so you know, if you want to talk about off topic stuff you can check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:17] <usr13> Ari-Yang: Tnx
[03:17] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome :)
[03:18] <_ACE_> Ari-Yang: just making a statement not a discussion
[03:18] <somsip> !tmi | _ACE_
[03:27] <spope> somsip: your suggestions worked
[03:27] <spope> i was able to get in and fix the issues
[03:27] <spope> thank you
[03:27] <spope> very much
[03:27] <somsip> spope: np. Glad you got it sorted
[03:27] <spope> me too!
[03:29] <cstewart> Good Evening Ladies and Gents
[03:41] <semitones> ...
[03:41] <semitones> PING
[03:41]  * semitones hides submarine
[03:44] <aringan> I just upgraded my ubuntu from 8.04 to 10.04, and its network is not working
[03:44] <aringan> it's on another Vm machine
[03:44] <aringan> what should I check
[03:44] <aringan> ?
[03:46] <aringan> anyone here for help !?
[03:46] <tones> this channel doesnt support 10.04
[03:48] <nightfly> Hello, are the the init scripts for haproxy just terminally broken on Ubuntu Precise or has anyone actually had them work for them?
[03:49] <aringan> then which channel does ?
[03:50] <nightfly> aringan: You can ask in maybe ##linux
[03:50] <nightfly> Ubuntu 10.04 is not longer officially supported though
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> aringan, Upgrade it to 12.04 LTS, it has 5 years support.
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> wilee-nilee, techncially 4 years now iirc
[03:53] <Ari-Yang> s/techncially/technically
[03:54] <tones> for upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, is it better to clean install or does it matter?
[03:54] <kostkon> aringan, server or desktop?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> tones, I always fresh install.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> theoretically 10.04 is fine.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> 10.04 to 12.04*
[03:55] <rlab> Im trying to pxe boot ubuntu 13.04 32bit and it seems to kernel panic because it cant assign all 00's to the onboard nic's mac, is there a way to manualy set a nic in the boot options ?, the nic works fine
[03:55] <rlab> mac*
[03:56] <rlab> The 00 mac is aparantly a issue with 3com devices
[03:56] <tones> will 12.04 look/act just like 10.04 with gnome?
[03:56] <k1l> !notunity | tones
[03:57] <Carlinhos> qt applications use my local language instead of the default system language, which is english. this is a fresh install. how can i solve this?
[03:57] <nightfly> That sounds correct
[03:57] <rlab> god dam ubuntu installer
[03:58] <Carlinhos> nightfly: were you replying to me?
[03:58] <nightfly> Yeah, by local language I assume you mean a language you selected at the user level
[03:59] <semitones> when I ssh
[03:59] <semitones> and it is all like
[04:00] <semitones> "verify that this is the computer that you want to connect to with this key"
[04:00] <Carlinhos> by local language i mean my country's language. i set english as the default language and everything looks good except for qt apps like smplayer and clementine. is there a way to change this? never happened on previous versions.
[04:00] <semitones> how do you use that key to verify?
[04:01] <ReadingHackspace> Anyone know a workaround for this?, http://imgur.com/FoysvUf
[04:01] <Carlinhos> this seems to be exactly my issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140957 no solution though.
[04:02] <parallels> hello all
[04:05] <mpmc> Good morning parallels.
[04:13] <iwii> how to list my ppa sources in cli command ?
[04:13] <iwii> I want ppa-purge them
[04:13] <kaushal> Hi
[04:13] <kaushal> Are there skype application available for 13.04 desktop?
[04:14] <iwii> kaushal: use wine ?
[04:16] <xangua> kaushal: you can install skype in the software center
[04:16] <duskye> or you could follow this as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[04:17] <ReadingHackspace> skype on linux is horid..
[04:17] <ReadingHackspace> atleast the linux version is
[04:17] <duskye> very much so
[04:18] <Guest5571> i installed spotify on ubuntu studio today
[04:18] <Guest5571> works fantastically
[04:18] <duskye> Though I think the Windows 8 Skype is a big contender for being almost as horrid
[04:18] <kostkon_> ReadingHackspace: same features as win version just with a different gui
[04:18] <duskye> lol
[04:19] <ReadingHackspace> and the constant call dropping
[04:19] <kostkon_> ReadingHackspace: never experiencd that
[04:19] <ReadingHackspace> lucky =/
[04:19] <duskye> neither have i
[04:20] <ReadingHackspace> anyway, back to fighting the nic that thinks its mac addr is all 0's
[04:29] <kaushal> Hi
[04:29] <semitones> what is the equivalent to "aptitude search" in apt-get?
[04:29] <kaushal> xangua: Thanks it is working fine
[04:29] <kaushal> Any one have using pidgin?
[04:29] <rigved> semitones: apt-cache search
[04:29] <kaushal> I have unity-plugin-search
[04:30] <semitones> rigved, thanks -- i thought it might only search installed programs that way
[04:31] <rigved> semitones: welcome. it searches all the packages (installed or otherwise), which are available based on your apt sources.list
[04:32] <semitones> thanks!
[04:33] <dsnyders> Hi all.  How do I get thunderbird to periodically send an email to my work account  telling me how many emails it has received?
[04:33] <holstein> dsnyders: that would be challenging.. how about just a mail checker app?
[04:35] <dsnyders> holstein, my work computer is pretty locked down.  I don't think I could make a business case for installing a mail checker app.
[04:36] <holstein> dsnyders: i could.. it would go like this "i need to check my mail for business"
[04:36] <circle> i need to return some video tapes
[04:37] <holstein> dsnyders: anyways.. you want to get a notification when you get email? you dont really need thunderbird to send you a mail, correct? you just want a notification?
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> dsnyders, If you have a phone with android you can have it show the email.
[04:49] <savagecroc> hey i'm using ufw, but i would like to add a rule that forwards one port to another port
[04:49] <savagecroc> can i manually add an iptables config to a file somewhere
[04:52] <dsnyders> holstein: yeah.  At a particular time, say 16:30, it emails me to say "You have received no messages" or "You have 5 new messages"
[04:54] <holstein> dsnyders: do you have a smartphone?
[04:55] <dsnyders> holstein, Yeah...?
[04:56] <holstein> dsnyders: thats what i would do.. a mail checker on the phone.. or just check my email on the phone
[04:57] <holstein> dsnyders: if you want a machine to check your email and email you, you'll need more than thnunderbird.. you'll need to script something on a machine that is always running, that will have the ability to email you, at your office
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> I actually get notified of free yahoo pop on my smart phone I added the android to the server call on my ubuntu thunderbird.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> I get the pop in ubuntu is what I meant
[04:58] <holstein> dsnyders: that would be generated from wherever that machine is running.. which could be your home IP.. that could be blocked by your work easily
[05:03] <jony_easyrider> why cron isn't executing it's commands?
[05:07] <pawel__> hello
[05:08] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: how did you update cron?
[05:09] <savagecroc> did you use crontab -e?
[05:09] <dsnyders> holstein: Thanks for your help.  Goodnight.
[05:09] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, with sudo crontab -e
[05:10] <somsip> jony_easyrider: and what does the cronjob look like that is failing. Can you paste?
[05:10] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: what's the log file say?
[05:10] <somsip> !paste | jony_easyrider
[05:10] <babin> I have installed Ubuntu server 12.04 and now i need to setup apt- chache-ng server how can i do it , help me for step by step procedures
[05:12] <wheatthin> umm I don't think this is a howto place
[05:14] <wheatthin> babin, You can tho look on help.ubuntu.com.. it has step by step
[05:14] <Hyperiant> Ubuntu won't mount my SATA drive and grub doesn't see my Windows 7 install on it
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Were you on the channel earlier?
[05:14] <wheatthin> Hyperiant,  have you tried to see what fdisk has?
[05:15] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: Yes, I just finished the chkdsk and ran your commands (invalid operation on both iterations of the command)
[05:15] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: fdisk?
[05:15] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, to see if it can see it or not.
[05:15] <wheatthin> fdisk -l
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, You ran the sudo grub-install /dev/sda from  the ubuntu install, I had reversed the command?
[05:16] <ReadingHackspace> Screw 3com for not writing mac's to these interfaces -.-
[05:16] <jony_easyrider> somsip, paste.ubuntu.com/5803715/
[05:16] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, how can I see the log file?
[05:17] <wheatthin> jony_easyrider, using cat usually helps
[05:17] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: I was instructed to run "sudo apt-get grub-install /dev/sda"
[05:17] <savagecroc> jony_easyrider: google, find out what cron outputs too, then use cat
[05:17] <somsip> jony_easyrider: when do you expect this to run?
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I did not have a apt-get.
[05:18] <wheatthin> lol Hyperiant yeah no, that's not right.. maybe you wrote it down wrong?
[05:18] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: The commands as copy-pasted from your messages: "sudo apt-get grub-install /dev/sda" and "sudo update-grub"
[05:18] <Hyperiant> I didn't write them down, I copy-pasted them into leafpad
[05:18] <wheatthin> well now instead of arguing, do it right
[05:19] <Hyperiant> I ain't arguing, and it's already in progress ><
[05:19] <Hyperiant> nevertheless, my install still isn't detected
[05:19] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, did you check to see if your drive was still plugged in?
[05:19] <wheatthin> and has power to it?
[05:19] <jony_easyrider> somsip, I tried to change it's day attribute, even I put * to all data but it won't execute either
[05:20] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I can boot to the drive if I point to it through the BIOS, and gparted sees it
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, could be but I was corrected with the backward install-grub but not a apt-get I would have been, but anyway it is sudo grub-install /dev/sda  however you can't mount the sdb1 at this point that is
[05:20] <jony_easyrider> savagecroc, if I execute those commands manually, it works
[05:21] <somsip> jony_easyrider: you must post what you are testing with. This cronjob triggers on 19th June just after 4am. Set it to every minute (all *) or every 10 mins (10 * * * *) and test it. Watch /var/log/syslog for errors
[05:22] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, if gparted sees it, then you need to update grub
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I would run a smartdisk check on the HD from windows since you can boot it. It might have a problem or a broken partition table or something is amiss.
[05:22] <babin> k
[05:22] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: smartdisk?
[05:22] <jony_easyrider> somsip, I put * to all of the attributes, but it won't execute it either
[05:22] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: How do you go about updating grub?  I've run sudo update-grub multiple times to no effect
[05:23] <gilbert_> hi, quick question (ubuntu 12.04 x64), i downloaded vuze from their website and I got it running and all but since I didn't install it through the software center i cant launch it from unity, can anyone direct me to a tutorial or something?
[05:23] <somsip> jony_easyrider: paste /var/log/syslog to show the errors. Repost the cronjob showing the edit you made
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, Here is a wiki on smart, I have not run one in windows so I'm not sure of what's available, but it is a good tool for finding problems. You might try the ##Windows channel to check that HD, it seems to be a windows problem in spite of it booting ubuntu does not mount and did not show any info in that script.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> windows or the HD that is.
[05:26] <whyrusleeping> for some reason, 'chsh' says 'you may not change the shell for 'me''
[05:26] <jony_easyrider> somsip, can I watch the error log in realtime?
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Sorry your nick tabs to the other above I did not see that.
[05:27] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: I'm confused, what is it that I'm supposed to run?
[05:27] <somsip> jony_easyrider: tail -n 100 -f /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <wheatthin> jony_easyrider, yes, type   watch /var/log/logname
[05:27] <wheatthin> or whatever it is
[05:28] <whyrusleeping> anyone have any ideas?
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, There are tools to check the HD for errors and broken areas the wiki gives you a bit of information, I would ask in ##windows for these tools to check from windows since you can boot it.
[05:29] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: wouldn't it make more sense that it's an Ubuntu problem?  An HDD is an HDD, gparted sees it; it's not as if it's formatted weird, and chkdsk /f /r completed with no faults
[05:29] <Hyperiant> it's only ubuntu that refuses to mount it, no?
[05:30] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you have to make ubuntu mount it in fstab
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Not to me, but I'm a long term user of both, it wont even mount something is up with that HD or windows.
[05:30] <Hyperiant> fstab?
[05:30] <wheatthin> yup..
[05:30] <Hyperiant> what's fstab
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> !fstab
[05:31] <wheatthin> man fstab and it'll tell you all aobut it
[05:31] <Hyperiant> makes enough sense.  so what do I do with it to make it work?
[05:31] <wheatthin> look at the link
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, I would go to the ##windows channel and ask about smartdisk checks or other checks besides the chkdsk, or look on the web for smartdisk tools you can run from windows.
[05:33] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, it has no problem booting from that disk
[05:33] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: why does it return to a fault with the HDD?
[05:34] <Hyperiant> a comprehensive 10-hour chkdsk backed up by a consistently bootable and stable operating system present on the drive would seem to hint that the HDD isn't broken
[05:34] <Hyperiant> it's just that ubuntu isn't happy somehow
[05:35] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, just read up on the fstab try to make your mount point, get your blkid and follow the instructions
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, You can't even mount it, if it was in good shape it would a least mount in ubuntu, it should show in home in the left panel and a click should open it.
[05:35] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: as far as I've read, I'm supposed to "mount /dev/sdb1"?
[05:35] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: sudo fdisk -l
[05:36] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you need to read some more
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, You have to knock out variables not guess.
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> that command is a good idea
[05:36] <wheatthin> he said gparted can see the disk
[05:36] <wheatthin> that means fdisk can too
[05:36] <mumpitze1> wheatthin: I didn't ask about any disk...
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, If the ubuntu is the problem a live cd would mount the HD.
[05:37] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I ran the command, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it
[05:37] <mumpitze1> !paste | Hyperiant
[05:37] <wheatthin> mumpitze1, I didn't say you did.. did I?
[05:38] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803742/
[05:38] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: so you want to access your 2000GB windows partition under ubuntu?
[05:39] <whyrusleeping> can anyone help me with chsh?
[05:39] <wheatthin> mkdir /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[05:39] <ehhh> do macro buttons work in ubuntu or do you need specific software?
[05:39] <wheatthin> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[05:39] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: ask your real question
[05:40] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I want to be able to boot with it through grub so I don't have to access the boot menu every time; being able to explore the drive and use it would be nice too though
[05:40] <BoomerBile> ehhh, what DE?
[05:40] <somsip> whyrusleeping: explain more about what you are trying to do.
[05:41] <ehhh> boomerBile: xfce, xubuntu
[05:41] <BoomerBile> not sure if xfce has macros
[05:41] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: are you using (U)EFI for booting or normal BIOS?
[05:41] <whyrusleeping> when i type chsh, it says you may not change the shell
[05:41] <BoomerBile> kde does
[05:41] <somsip> ehhh: fire up xev and see if they are picked up when you press them?
[05:41] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: "The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0); The file system wasn't safely closed on WIndows."
[05:42] <whyrusleeping> what am i doing wrong?
[05:42] <somsip> whyrusleeping: what shell are you in when you type chsh? Is chsh listed in /etc/shells? Is it installed?
[05:42] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I have no idea, I just mash F11 and then select the drive manually
[05:42] <ehhh> somsip: good idea
[05:42] <BoomerBile> somsip, err, that won't help ehhh
[05:42] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, you need to run chckdisk in windows under windows
[05:42] <whyrusleeping> fish shell, and its in /etc/shells
[05:42] <somsip> BoomerBile: ehhh thought otherwise. But hey...
[05:42] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I just finished a 6 hour chkdsk /f /r
[05:42] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, not with using windows you didn't
[05:42] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: then next time shut down windows cleanly
[05:43] <BoomerBile> how is checking if xev can see his keys going to help him program macros?
[05:43] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I did it with Windows
[05:43] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I used start -> shut down
[05:43] <ehhh> somsip: some of them seem to work
[05:43] <somsip> BoomerBile: to see if he needs to install something to recognise the hardware differently first. Like a module or other driver
[05:43] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, then it sounds to me like your disk is failing.
[05:43] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: what will sudo os-prober;sudo update grub  spit out?
[05:43] <BoomerBile> he's typing
[05:43] <BoomerBile> he's got keys
[05:43] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: wouldn't chkdisk reveal some sort of error then?
[05:44] <wheatthin> if it's still complaining about not being cleanly unmounted, and won't mount even afterwards, then some times no.
[05:44] <somsip> BoomerBile: how about we let ehhh direct his own query? If you can help him out, great. If I can, great. It's not a contest
[05:44] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: and chkdsk is NOT a test if the hardware is working at all. if you needed 6 hours for a chkdsk run, the disk is probably broken. run a long SMART test with smartctl on the drive. check current values with smartctl -a first and note them down
[05:44] <BoomerBile> i'll let you ubuntu dweebs deal it out, back to gentoo
[05:45] <wheatthin> bye
[05:45] <wheatthin> no need for you in here anywho
[05:45] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: it found linux images and memtest images, wouldn't let me pastebin because it was empty
[05:46] <somsip> ehhh: but not all? What hardware is this then?
[05:47] <ehhh> somsip: just some old keyboard not even usb, i'm planning ahead and i found a page right now that goes through the process of assigning commands to keys
[05:47] <somsip> whyrusleeping: and is chsh in /etc/shells? Is it installed? Read it *carefully*
[05:47] <somsip> ehhh: k
[05:47] <mumpitze1> somsip: chsh is never in /etc/shells. no point
[05:48] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: chkdsk /f runs a thorough check on the data integrity, including an extremely long (apparently 5 hour long) process which verifies every 'empty' part of a 2TB drive...it doesn't seem out of the question for it to take long :/
[05:48] <somsip> mumpitze1: this is what I'm getting at... I don't know if this affect the usage of it though
[05:48] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: no it does not. it checks a filesystem. it does NOT check hardware
[05:48] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, no, it checks every linux file partiton
[05:48] <wheatthin> filesystem*
[05:48] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: I never mentioned the hardware, I just said it takes a while ><
[05:48] <ehhh> lol the answer is apparently staring me right in the face on the keyboard settings rofl
[05:49] <whyrusleeping> somsip: chsh isnt in /etc/shells.. but its never had to be before?
[05:49] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: it does not check empty space. it does not take 6 hours. reading every single sector on that disk will take approx 2 hours. if it takes longer, some sectors are usually not readable which increases time a lot
[05:49] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: what is the commandline you are typing?
[05:49] <whyrusleeping> chsh
[05:50] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: unreadable sectors would report as errors, yes?  nevertheless, I'll be glad to run more lengthy tests as I'm heading to bed soon, just point me in the right direction
[05:50] <somsip> whyrusleeping: so what are trying to chsh to?
[05:50] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: no they won't in chkdsk
[05:50] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, we did. You just aren't listening
[05:50] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: I already did point you to SMART tests. under ubuntu you use smartctl
[05:51] <whyrusleeping> somsip: chsh normally asks which shell you want to change if you dont give arguments
[05:51] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: you said to write down the settings using smartctl; I didn't know I was supposed to use that to run the actual test ><
[05:51] <whyrusleeping> but it does the same thing if i do 'chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish'
[05:51] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: and I also told you to run it with -a first and save that output to see what has changed after you run a long SMART test
[05:51] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: how would I go about running a long SMART test?
[05:51] <mumpitze1> -t long
[05:51] <somsip> whyrusleeping: no idea. I thought I could help, but not. Good luck
[05:51] <mumpitze1> and run it on the right disk
[05:52] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: i don't know why you get this error, but what if you run sudo chsh <username> ?
[05:52] <whyrusleeping> somsip: :/ thanks though.
[05:52] <whyrusleeping> mumpitze1: same deal
[05:52] <Hyperiant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803762/  Am I supposed to add /dev/sdb1 or some other thing I'm not aware of?
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: one last one - are you essentially trying to chsh fish ?
[05:53] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: you need to give a disk devicename as parameter, sdb1 is a partition
[05:53] <wheatthin> yup.. which is what he meant by specifying your disk you want to check
[05:53] <whyrusleeping> yeah
[05:53] <Ponch0> Hi, I'm using ubuntu-gnome 13.04... how can I change the look to something like this?? ...... http://www.webupd8.org/search?updated-max=2013-05-08T14:24:00%2B03:00&max-results=10&start=40&by-date=false
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16184046/unable-to-change-shell-from-bash-to-fish
[05:53] <mumpitze1> whyrusleeping: the path to /fish is in your /etc/shells?
[05:53] <whyrusleeping> mumpitze1: yes
[05:53] <somsip> whyrusleeping: once I realised chsh was not a shell you were trying to change to, and fish was the shell you wanted to change to, first result on google
[05:54] <ehhh> ok so figuring out the commands is a bit worse, i wanna try to make it launch the home folder first
[05:54] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803766/  Should I enable SMART?
[05:54] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, read the last line
[05:55] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: Yes, it tells me how to enable it; should I do that?
[05:55] <wheatthin> umm yeah
[05:55] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: read the links. they are there for a reason. don't paste stuff mindlessly, read and think before you do
[05:55] <Hyperiant> that's all I was asking :/
[05:55] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: when was this 2TB drive bought?
[05:55] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: not sure, it was cannibalized from an external HDD
[05:55] <ehhh> ok actually it was really easy
[05:56] <mumpitze1> when was the hdd bought?
[05:56] <whyrusleeping> somsip: that did it!
[05:56] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: probably within a year or two, I'm not sure
[05:56] <whyrusleeping> weird though, because on my other machine chsh worked perfectly...
[05:56] <somsip> whyrusleeping: got therein the end :)
[05:57] <mumpitze1> well: read the links
[05:57] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: you keep saying that but it's worded in a way that I'm finding difficult to understand; you realize I come in this chat because I don't know what to Google and I'm a newbie Ubuntu user
[05:58] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, ask google "howto update grub + dualboot + ubuntu"
[05:58] <whyrusleeping> somsip: Danke!!
[05:58] <MonkeyDust> !google | wheatthin
[05:59] <wheatthin> he said he didn't know how to search it, learn to read
[06:00] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: my entire point was that I'm in here because you know more than I what I should be doing; I look here for guidance to a solution, not guidance to lengthy man pages of programs I've never heard of
[06:00] <babin> Static IP configured in Ubuntu server 12.04 and its pinging to <IP_ADDRESS> soon as soon while i press entire
[06:00] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, we've tried giving you a solution, and you failed to take it
[06:00] <babin> but cant ping google.com imediatley latency is there more than 10 seconds
[06:00] <babin> how can i fix it
[06:00] <mumpitze1> babin: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:01] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, I told you how to mount your ntfs drive.. even explained it
[06:01] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: I'm having a problem understanding it; I need to be walked through it.  I've run the commands I've been asked to
[06:01] <babin> not yet check wait let me
[06:01] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: mind repeating it?  as I recall, I ran your command but it spat out errors
[06:01] <wheatthin> scroll up
[06:01] <wheatthin> I've said it as plain as day
[06:01] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: if you want someone to solve your problem for you, then I suggest you hire commercial support. irc is more of a help to help yourself kind of thing
[06:01] <Hyperiant> ouch
[06:02] <mumpitze1> not a "free sysadmin" place
[06:02] <Hyperiant> how far up even is it, wheatthin?  it's been drowned in text
[06:03] <mumpitze1> Hyperiant: /lastlog wheatthin
[06:03] <babin> ya its pining file to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:03] <Hyperiant> mumpitzel: freenode's webchat says unknown command
[06:03] <mumpitze1> babin: DNS server problems then
[06:03] <babin> oh how can i assign it in Resolv.conf
 mkdir /media/<username>/<mountpoint>     <wheatthin> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/<username>/<mountpoint>
[06:04] <babin> alreay i have setted nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:04] <somsip> wheatthin: (coming in late) it is in fstab is it? No sudo on the mount...
[06:04] <wheatthin> the <> brackets is for you to replace with your username and desired mountpoints
[06:05] <mumpitze1> babin: what is your default gateway?
[06:05] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: THAT'S the error I missed; that first command you gave me seemed to be aimed at someone else, I only saw the latter and it didn't work
[06:05] <babin> <IP_ADDRESS> is gateway
[06:05] <Hyperiant> of course now it mounts.  thank you very much.
[06:05] <wheatthin> my bad, you should use sudo when using mount
[06:05] <babin> wait let me give u all info
[06:05] <mnemon> babin: try using <IP_ADDRESS> as nameserver (google public one)
[06:05] <babin> ohh sure
[06:06] <wheatthin> !fstab Hyperiant
[06:06] <mumpitze1> babin: the 2nd nameserver doesn't seem to be a nameserver. use <IP_ADDRESS> (a google nameserver) instead. and maybe don't use your default gateway either or put it at 2nd place
[06:06] <wheatthin> !fstab | Hyperiant
[06:06] <wheatthin> read the link, and edit fstab with the required entries
[06:06] <wheatthin> you know the fstype is ntfs
[06:07] <babin> sure ill back after checking
[06:07] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: now that it mounted, running sudo os-prober discovered the partition and sudo update-grub found the loader; the drive wasn't faulty as you initially suspected
[06:07] <Hyperiant> rather, as you initially suspected, the drive wasn't faulty
[06:08] <AndresSM> wow xubuntu is so much better than ubuntu/unity crap
[06:08] <AndresSM> on my slow lappy
[06:08] <ehhh> ^
[06:08] <wheatthin> Hyperiant, I initially didn't suspect anything. I said run chckdisk in windows, I also said try mounting it, but you claimed that chkdsk in linux would fix it, and we argued, no it wouldn't
[06:09] <wheatthin> I also said edit your fstab, which this is the 3rd time I've said it at least.. put in your info as the link suggest .. now that it works.. good going, now you've learned something
[06:09] <Hyperiant> wheatthin: well, in spite of myself, you've managed to fix my boot
[06:10] <wheatthin> you're welcome
[06:10] <Hyperiant> thank you
[06:10] <wheatthin> :)
[06:11] <somsip> wheatthin: what a very nice bit of support :-) good one
[06:12] <babinlonston> wow its fixed sir working  fine
[06:13] <wheatthin> i still say googling the question first works best :P.. even to get a slight understanding
[06:13] <wheatthin> or using man
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> wheatthin  what about duckduckgo'ing?
[06:16] <wheatthin> lol MonkeyDust never used it
[06:18] <CHIRROQUERO> QP46VB82YU
[06:22] <blah0ur034u2> quit
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:26] <mikodo> silv3r_m00n, hi there yourself. Quiet nite isn't it
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> when i add a repository like "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner"  , when i upgrade ubuntu to next version, will the repository also move up to next distro name automatically ?
[06:28] <silv3r_m00n> mikodo: you mean everyone is sleeping ?
[06:28] <wheatthin> silv3r_m00n, after re-enabling it from a full upgrade, followed by sudo apt-get update  and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:28] <silv3r_m00n> wheatthin: yeah those are done usually
[06:29] <wheatthin> silv3r_m00n, but you have to re-enable from software-update.. they'll be there just unchecked
[06:30] <mikodo> wheatthin, I have never upgraded, but wouldn't the repos be for the earler release
[06:32] <wheatthin> mikodo, they'll upgrade if they are needed anymore
[06:32] <mikodo> wheatthin, ? just chance it to the correct releae in /etc/apt/souces.list
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> what happens if a package is provided by 2 repositories, will both be listed in synaptic ?
[06:33] <wheatthin> once you've chosen to upgrade to another release, then your sources will be upgraded. if they are from a completely different repository, then they'll be disabled and not upgraded and could potentially be removed
[06:34] <mikodo> I am too tired to even spell, sorry goodnight.
[06:34] <wheatthin> night
[06:35] <Gycklarn> Hey guys. I'm wondering if anyone here is aware of a program similar to "Flashpaste", which is only available for Windows?
[06:35] <wheatthin> this isn't windows
[06:35] <Gycklarn> I am quite aware of that.
[06:35] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and what does it do?
[06:36] <Gycklarn> You create a database with blocks of text, from which you can quickly copy to a document
[06:37] <Gycklarn> I work in tech support and I'm planning on switching to Linux and we have a lot standardized answers. I want to be able to quickly paste those answers into an email.
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> how to use aptitude or apt-get to list the packages provided by a certain repository ?
[06:37] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  there's Diodon and ClipIt
[06:38] <Gycklarn> MonkeyDust, Thanks, I'll have a look
[06:38] <kelly> Hi , which is better ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 ? I've intel 13.2100 , 10GB ram , 256GB SSD , Intel 3000 HD
[06:38] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and Klipper
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> kelly, Your choice really 13.04 newest apps, 12.04 5 years support
[06:38] <somsip> Gycklarn: there are various clipboard managers but whether they let you import from a bast document to setup the buffers, you'd have to check
[06:38] <MonkeyDust> Gycklarn  and Parcellite
[06:38] <somsip> *base
[06:39] <kelly> thanx wilee , Is ubuntu 12.04 more stable than 13.04 ?
[06:39] <MonkeyDust> kelly  it's supported longer
[06:40] <IdleOne> Gycklarn: take a look at http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/copyq-interesting-clipboard-manager.html
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> kelly, I find both stable, generally some will say a long term support is mopre stable 12.04LTS, but I have not found that necessarily true here.
[06:40] <Gycklarn> IdleOne, Ty
[06:41] <iceroot> kelly: yes, 12.04 is more stable because the software in 12.04 is testes for a longer time. the relase is older then a year, 13.04 is just out some month, so there was not that big testing like 12.04 get over the year
[06:41] <iceroot> kelly: but both are stable versions
[06:42] <kelly> thanx , can i ask here about elementary os ?
[06:42] <iceroot> kelly: no
[06:42] <iceroot> kelly: only ubuntu support
[06:42] <kelly> ok
[06:44] <kelly> Is Intel 3000 HD good with unity ?
[06:44] <mumpitze1>  good enough
[06:44] <iceroot> kelly: its running fine, i am using that card here with 13.04
[06:44] <iceroot> kelly: its even fine to play source games on steam
[06:46] <kelly> i don't play games at all , i need a good program for video editing ?
[06:46] <iceroot> kelly:
[06:46] <iceroot> kelly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/193194/what-is-the-best-video-editor-on-ubuntu-for-editing-multi-format-multi-eco
[06:48] <kelly> thank you for the quick response :)
[06:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. I've been getting into manually networking in ubuntu, problem is, I have to leave the terminal open after running dhclient, even if I do it with & at the end. is there a way to really background it?
[06:49] <kelly> What would be the best partitioning set up for a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 with SSD ?
[06:49] <iceroot> kelly: use the one ubuntu will suggest
[06:49] <iceroot> kelly: there is no "best" partition layout for an ssd (or a normal hdd)
[06:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: no such thing as best, but I personally do a 16gb root, as much swap as i feel needed, and the rest for /home
[06:50] <iceroot> kelly: its all depending on your needs, if you dont know you needs, use the ubuntu default layout
[06:50] <kelly> someone told me to putting swap, and maybe /var and /tmp on the harddisk. is it good
[06:50] <kelly> I've 256GB SSD + 500GB HDD + 250GB HDD
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777>  /var and /tmp are by default on disc
[06:51] <wheatthin> using ssd, depending on it's speed would usually be for swap, or at least a portion of it
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: and /boot :P
[06:51] <wheatthin> ehh, files on boot aren't used often unless rebooting
[06:51] <wheatthin> and they are quite small as it is
[06:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, but hey, boot speed is a good thing :P
[06:52] <wheatthin> should have good boot speed either way right?
[06:52] <wheatthin> :)
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> true, this is *buntu we're talking about, not windows :P
[06:52] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, most of the files used for booting and loading services aren't located on /boot
[06:52] <wheatthin> the descriptors are
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> ... perhaps I've misread something, then...
[06:53] <kelly> yesterday i tried one of the heaviest disto and the boot time is 8 sec , i think ubuntu will be more faster :)
[06:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: which distro?
[06:53] <kelly> opensuse
[06:53] <kelly> kde desktop
[06:54] <somsip_> wheatthin: other way rount isn't it? I have symlinks in / that point to .img files in /boot ...
[06:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> I like xfce myself :P
[06:54] <wheatthin> somsip, no.. all that's booted is the location of the devices.. services and such load straight from /root
[06:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> I used to be a gnome fanboi, but after the switch to unity I decided to try and find a new alternative. xubuntu rubbed me just the right way :P
[06:55] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, have you tried gnome-shell? aka gnome 3?
[06:55] <somsip_> wheatthin: I understand that services load through whatever stands in for inittab nowadays, but perhaps assumed you meant kernel files don't live in /boot, which doesn't seem to be what you're saying. Fair enough
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: yeah, and I did not care too much for it at first glance :P. I've tried gnome-shell and gnome-panel in precise
[06:56] <kelly> I've another computer on the network with windows 7 installed on it , How can i sharing files between both of them ?
[06:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: samba, likley
[06:56] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, oh it's great.. not so much overhead from compiz and quite fast
[06:57] <kelly> is there a good guide , i never use samba
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: eh, I don't use compiz for anything :P
[06:57] <wheatthin> !samba | kelly
[06:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: hmm. its not too hard, just gotta get it set up right :P
[06:58] <kelly> hard for me not like you :)
[06:58] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, it just takes a bit of getting used to :)
[06:58] <kelly> thanx ubottu
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: no amount of getting used to will help a crappy machine XD
[06:58] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, that's true
[06:59] <kelly> is there a gui to deal with it ? because i hate commands x-x
[06:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: this isn't so much commands as setting up config files proper
[06:59] <wheatthin> kelly, gotta learn somewhere bro ;).. plus you can mount partitions or share files using nautilus
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: heh, I have my samba shares automounted at boot with /etc/fstab :P
[07:00] <kalaka> commands are awesome, cmon
[07:00] <codeshah> hey guys, using mail from commmand line emails are sent from root@localhost
[07:00] <codeshah> how do I change that?
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> ~/Music ~/Video ~/Documents ~/Pictures
[07:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> codeshah: hmm, are you running the command as a root user?
[07:01] <codeshah> yup
[07:01] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, it'll help isolate what he/she wants mounted, but is a quick way to mount them eitherway
[07:01] <codeshah> its just a notifier to us daily with errors from an erro rlog
[07:01] <kelly> i found this one http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/share-files-between-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[07:01] <wheatthin> codeshah, use a different user to launch mail from
[07:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> codeshah: idk, if there is no human interaction I can't help you there :P
[07:02] <codeshah> hmm
[07:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: heh, its all pretty much the same :P
[07:02] <kelly> *_*
[07:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: would you like to see my smb.conf as an example?
[07:04] <kelly> yes plz
[07:04] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, still with the gui should create permanent shares through nautilus :)
[07:04] <wheatthin> easily and painlessly
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> kelly  there's this program Gigolo, try that, first, for samba (windows share)
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5803877/
[07:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: wait, from windows to ubuntu or ubuntu to windows?
[07:06] <kelly> i need from ubuntu to windows
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> personally I do ubuntu/ubuntu, I have a crap tower I use as a fileserver and a host for my local mirrors of websites :P
[07:06] <MonkeyDust> !info gigolo
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> MonkeyDust: heh, gigolo comes with xubuntu, but I never touched it XD
[07:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> I may just uninstall it XD
[07:06] <kelly> thanx MonkeyDust
[07:07] <wheatthin> why not just use something that's already installed?
[07:07] <wheatthin> hmm
[07:07] <wheatthin> gives up
[07:08] <wheatthin> and it uses gvfs :)
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: I think gigolo is more about accessing existing shares, rather than setting them up. plus I like doing things "the hard way" XD
[07:08] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, using nautilus will allow both :)
[07:08] <kelly> ntzrmtthihu777: also if u can show me the way from windows to ubuntu , I would be grateful to you
[07:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: xubuntu uses thunar, not nautilus :P
[07:09] <MonkeyDust> kelly  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[07:09] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, thunar should also have the capability, but I haven't used it in a while to truly say
[07:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> kelly: lets see, I think once you set up your samba on the ubuntu machine, you will need to go to network places or sommat on the windows machine :P
[07:09] <wheatthin> ntzrmtthihu777, he can use map network drive incase it doesn't show up right away
[07:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> wheatthin: yeah, but I find that when you do it yourself the nitty gritty way you get the exact results you want, whereas gui stuff can get funky at times :P
[07:10] <wheatthin> nah
[07:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> dontcha nah me, lol. trying to use network manager to share internet to my samba server over ethernet was kicking my tuchus, fired up good ol' tilda and got to typing, works fine now :P
[07:13] <kelly> I really appreciate the  help , Thank you all
[07:13] <wheatthin> you're welcome
[07:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, I'ma call it a nite, later all :P
[07:14] <wheatthin> g'nite
[07:14] <vlad24bit> later bro
[07:17] <foofoobar> Hi. I push a lot via git remote over ssh (key auth). Now every time I try to push, I have to pass my passphrase
[07:17] <foofoobar> Is it possible to "remember" this passphrase until I log out?
[07:18] <kalaka> I have a question better suited for the #ubuntu-app-devel channel, but nobody's answering me there :(
[07:18] <yaakov|ubuntu> !phone
[07:18] <yaakov|ubuntu> #ubuntu-touch
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, For what it's worth the IRC is busiest daytime US.
[07:20] <wheatthin> only the die hards are up late :P
[07:20] <vlad24bit> party ardy
[07:20] <kalaka> well, I just thought I might try here see if I get lucky, wilee-nilee
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> kalaka, This is ubuntu support you can try. ;)
[07:20] <kalaka> I'm trying to build a .deb package from a source that compiles with qt4
[07:23] <kalaka> so... I guess nobody has any ideas? :)
[07:23] <vlad24bit> we'd have to know the problem first
[07:23] <wheatthin> by using dpkg-buildpackage
[07:24] <kalaka> well the problem is, because it builds using qt4, there's no Makefile and I haven't figured out a way to know the dependencies
[07:24] <absolootly> nice
[07:34] <kalaka> dpkg-depcheck -d ./configure obviously doesn't work (there's no configure)
[07:34] <kelly> guys How to create a bootable USB stick in windows ?
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly install universal usb installer
[07:34] <kelly> this one http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly yes
[07:34] <kelly> thanx nitz88
[07:34] <nitz88> @kelly welcome
[07:34] <wheatthin> no clue then
[07:34] <wheatthin> umm
[07:34] <wheatthin> I see cmake suggestions
[07:34] <wheatthin> kalaka,
[07:34] <wheatthin> http://qt-project.org/quarterly/view/using_cmake_to_build_qt_projects
[07:34] <wheatthin> ^
[07:34] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:34] <wheatthin> wubi
[07:34] <cristian_c> I've got an asus wl-330ge device
[07:34] <cristian_c> How can I disable wan in repeater mode with ubuntu?
[07:34] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:34] <wheatthin> holy lag batman
[07:35] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:36] <cristian_c> I repeat my question because there has been a netsplit
[07:36] <cristian_c> I've got an asus wl-330ge device
[07:36] <cristian_c> How can I disable wan in repeater mode with ubuntu?
[07:36] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:37] <wheatthin> cristian_c, so is this a wifi device that's in repeater mode?
[07:37] <wheatthin> hmm
[07:38] <wheatthin> cristian_c, so is this a wifi device that's in repeater mode?
[07:39] <cristian_c> wheatthin, it's a gateway/ap/adapter/repeater/hotspot device
[07:39] <cristian_c> wheatthin, many functions
[07:39] <vlad24bit> gnome record is broken in raring what should i use
[07:40] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, what is gnome-record?
[07:40] <vlad24bit> a sound recorder
[07:41] <vlad24bit> gnome sound recorder
[07:41] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any ideas?
[07:41] <wheatthin> qarecord
[07:41] <vlad24bit> tried it also broke
[07:41] <vlad24bit> any other ideas
[07:42] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, what's broken about it?
[07:42] <Javenn> hi experts, may I know is ubuntu server have L2TP client plugin?
[07:42] <wheatthin> cristian_c, have you tried disabling it?
[07:42] <cristian_c> wheatthin, I don't know how to do
[07:42] <cristian_c> *it
[07:42] <wheatthin> vlad24bit, qarecord works fine
[07:43] <vlad24bit> i can't get the capture button to click on it just errors
[07:45] <somsip_> cristian_c: this is ubuntu support not ASUS support. Maybe the manula for the repeater will have something in it http://www.asus.com/Networking/WL330gE/
[07:45] <richat> !info gyachi
[07:45] <cristian_c> somsip_, but I'd like to do this generally on these type of devices
[07:46] <somsip_> cristian_c: still nothing to do with ubuntu.
[07:46] <cristian_c> somsip_, I don't understand
[07:46] <cristian_c> :(
[07:47] <somsip_> cristian_c: ok
[07:48] <cristian_c> ?
[07:49] <ehhh> what does ssl encryption do?
[07:49] <cristian_c> wheatthin, any ideas?
[07:49] <wheatthin> cristian_c, which release are you using?
[07:50] <cristian_c> wheatthin, 12.04
[07:50] <somsip_> ehhh: maybe this will help http://www.digicert.com/ssl.htm
[07:50] <wheatthin> go up to the top to network settings, and click on disable
[07:50] <somsip_> ehhh: http://is.gd/eoZMtx
[07:50] <wheatthin> on that networking device
[07:50] <cristian_c> wheattin, I'm trying to find a method to do this on this distro
[07:51] <cristian_c> wheattin, ok, but exactly what option have I to set?
[07:51] <DuPe> cristian_c: it has nothing to do with your distro, it's a router device. you log into the router device and change settings. you can do it with a pc/mac/android/anything with webbrwoser
[07:51] <wheatthin> off
[07:51] <DuPe> so.... yeah.
[07:51] <wheatthin> DuPe, ahh I thought it was just a networking card or something of the like
[07:52] <somsip_> wheatthin: nah - pocket wifi hotspot thingy
[07:52] <wheatthin> ahh
[07:52] <DuPe> nah i recognize the model, it's a wifi thingiemabob
[07:52] <DuPe> i used one, once
[07:53] <cristian_c> DuPe, I've read the manual, but I've not found info how to disable it. Should I ask to asus?
[07:54] <cristian_c> I thought I had to set it from OS
[07:54] <ehhh> somsip_: thanks, so basically it encrypts the data sent between users to the websites? does it make you anonymous when you're on an ssl encrypted site or will site data still be transmitted/logged like normal?
[07:54] <somsip_> ehhh: I believe only the data is encrypted. Your IP will still be shown in the packets. Those sites will tell you more than i ever can
[07:55] <wheatthin> cristian_c, you might need to use web browser, login to whatever is the default gateway address using whatever credentials you used to set it up with
[07:55] <DuPe> cristian_c: a better question is, what mode are you wanting?  it has several modes.  you don't so much disable repeater mode as you enable a different mode
[07:55] <cristian_c> DuPe, repeater  mode
[07:55] <DuPe> oh you're wanting repeater
[07:55] <cristian_c> DuPe, i've to assign the device ip in the router in dhcp mode
[07:55] <ehhh> somsip_: i'll give them a thorough read to reach an understanding
[07:56] <cristian_c> DuPe, I always used it with static ip
[07:57] <cristian_c> DuPe, I was told to disable wan and to set it in client brdge mode
[07:57] <cristian_c> so, I could assign the ip correctly in the router/modem
[07:57] <DuPe> cristian_c: well you need to log into the device with the new ip. if you dont have the ip, you need to look at your existing router and see if it shows you dhcp leases, or you portscan your home network until you find it. once you find it, you log into the ip.  then there's a section where it searches for your existing wireless networks, finds it, and you enter the password info
[07:57] <cristian_c> I can't assign the ip of the device
[07:57] <tokhi> Anyone has experience with squid and Dansguardian?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157369
[07:58] <devslash> i have ubuntu set up to dual boot with os x on a macbook. if i delete os x is there a way to merge that free space with ubuntu without losing data ?
[07:59] <cristian_c> wheatthin, I've looked at router web interface either device web interface
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> devslash, You don't merge you would expand the partition into that unallocated space
[07:59] <wheatthin> cristian_c, is there a reset pin hole in the device?
[07:59] <devslash> err yea thats what i mean. ok
[08:00] <devslash> would you expand it using fdisk or another tool ?
[08:00] <cristian_c> wheatthin, yeah, it reset to gateway mode
[08:00] <cristian_c> *resets
[08:00] <DuPe> cristian_c: you can use it with a dhcp ip, but either way you need to log into it. you need to know it's ip. if you dont know the ip, nobody can help you.
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> devslash, I'm not up of apple but it would be from a live cd using gparted generally
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> s/of/on
[08:01] <wheatthin> devslash, you have to use the livecd to disable journaling first I believe
[08:01] <cristian_c> DuPe, it has got a specific ip, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:01] <devslash> oh ok
[08:01] <cristian_c> set by device producer
[08:02] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/222172/gparted-is-stuck-on-shrink-file-system-hfs
[08:02] <somsip_> !ot | cristian_c
[08:03] <DuPe> tomorrow is going to be a coffee day.
[08:09] <SuperLag> Ravior: Checkpoint SSL Network Extender. There was a CLI one that worked, but with reccent versions, this customer only supports the web-based connection./
[08:09] <SuperLag> bah
[08:10] <SuperLag> Can you create GPT partition tables from the standard installer?
[08:22] <zatan> hej is anyone using ack here ?
[08:23] <jonasrogert> I have problem connecting to one of my ubuntu machines both http and ssh when i run ssh in verbose i get this output http://pastebin.com/Bmtrn61z what does this mean?
[08:24] <Lynxx> it means time to use windows
[08:25] <jonasrogert> Lynxx, that isnt a solution i only run linux and i've had this problem with that box a few times now and only resolution is a hard restart
[08:26] <TJ-> Any idea where the XCP-XAPI plugins (extauth, etc.) have got to - they seem to be missing from xcp-xapi?
[08:26] <alho> jonasrogert: not sure if I can help much with this issue, but i recognize the pem filetype as a key file, are you authetnicating to ssh via password or key?
[08:27] <alho> jonasrogert: and you said the problem is intermittent? usually works up to a point and then you must hard reset?
[08:28] <jonasrogert> alho, it's a keyfile and it works for upto a few months but sometimes once a week then only solution is hard reset
[08:28] <ehhh> TJ-: there's a "nova-xcp-plugins" available on apt-get
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> jonasrogert: check the ownership of that file
[08:29] <grahamsavage> hi i need to forward port 25 -> 5025 and i'm having trouble getting it to work
[08:29] <jonasrogert> ActionParsnip, it's 400
[08:29] <grahamsavage> when i run sudo ufw enable i get ERROR: problem running ufw-init
[08:29] <jonasrogert> ActionParsnip, or only r on the owner which is me
[08:30] <TJ-> ehhh: Yes, that's for the OpenStack <> XCP integration. xcp-xapi is missing its extauth plugin (amongst several) which causes it to fail PAM authentications
[08:30] <jonasrogert> the strange thing is that both ssh and http goes down
[08:30] <jonasrogert> but i can telnet on 22
[08:30] <jonasrogert> so the connection is up
[08:30] <jonasrogert> but it seems like the daemon has stopped working
[08:32] <alho> jonasrogert, when you say hard reset, do you mean reboot? does a restart of the daemon fix the problem?
[08:33] <argoneus> Hello
[08:33] <argoneus> For some reason, my ubuntu freezes right after the login screen
[08:33] <argoneus> As in, the login screen opens
[08:33] <argoneus> and if I login, it switches to 1024x768 and then freezes
[08:33] <argoneus> And if I switch to any other tty and back, it freezes immediately
[08:33] <argoneus> Is there any place where I could find any relevant logs?
[08:34] <ehhh> TJ-: did you try google yet, i found this but i don't know if it will be of use to you https://github.com/Kakadu/xcp-xapi/blob/master/scripts/plugins/extauth-hook
[08:34] <TJ-> argoneus: ~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/*
[08:34] <jonasrogert> alho, i have to push the off button on the machine, i have a headless machine so i cant restart the deamon.
[08:34] <argoneus> TJ-: thanks, give me a sec
[08:35] <TJ-> ehhh: Yes; I'm working with the package source a.t.m. trying to figure out why/how the plugins aren't being installed to a binary package
[08:36] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Why not run a second instance of the daemon on another port? That way, if your primary connection dies you can get in on the secondary and check logs, etc.,  to discover what is wrong
[08:36] <ehhh> TJ-: i'll admit that's too complicated for me to answer atm, haven't tried compiling in years lol
[08:37] <jonasrogert> TJ-, that could acctually work, butt i'll have to wait till it happens again, it could take a month... Really enoying issue.
[08:38] <TJ-> ehhh: I thought that XCP would be straighforward given Canonical's shouting about cloud - so far I've spent 3 days fixing amateur project Kronos packaging bugs!
[08:38] <alho> jonasrogert, sorry man, I wouldn't know, never ran into this. I ran ssh -v on my machine to see how far it gets, looks like your session dies pretty early on, way before any key exchange occurs
[08:38] <linuxmania> hi
[08:38] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Well, I'd be looking hard at the logs after its restarted to see if there are any clues
[08:39] <alho> jonasrogert, and just sanitfy check, openssh is up to date on your machine?
[08:39] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Is the server resource-limited (memory, etc.) ?
[08:39] <linuxmania> guys can I install cinnamon On ubuntu Studio
[08:39] <linuxmania> ??
[08:39] <ikonia> linuxmania: there is an unofficial package for it
[08:40] <roger21> is removing a module from /modprobe.d/thatfile.conf will make it load when needed or do i need to add it in another file ?
[08:40] <ikonia> roger21: no, they are config files, that is not the blacklist
[08:40] <TJ-> jonasrogert: If you do run a 2nd instance see the later posts in this forum thread for a good how-to. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1497376
[08:40] <roger21> sory, what?
[08:40] <linuxmania> Any effects on ubuntu with That unofficial package
[08:41] <linuxmania> ??
[08:41] <ikonia> linuxmania: it will do exactly what it says - install cinnemon
[08:41] <linuxmania> okay thank you
[08:42] <roger21> can you list the content of modprobe.d/ and tell me they are not blacklist?
[08:42] <ikonia> roger21: what ?
[08:42] <roger21> can you list the content of modprobe.d/ and tell me they are not blacklist?
[08:42] <TJ-> roger21: If the hardware device is detected and no /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* entry stops it, the appropriate kernel module will be loaded. If the device isn't detected (not plug-n-pray) then you might need to add it to /etc/modules
[08:42] <jonasrogert> alho, its pretty upto date the machine runs the last LTS.
[08:42] <ikonia> roger21: what you are asking doesn't make sense
[08:42] <roger21> ok, that is clearer
[08:42] <roger21> TJ
[08:43] <roger21> so i actually have to try it
[08:43] <roger21> let's try it..
[08:44] <jonasrogert> TJ-,  if you mean have small amount of resources? i wouldnt say so it's not the biggest machine but it runs with 2 gb ram and dual-core cpu dont know how fast but it's enough for my needs.
[08:44] <TJ-> roger21: e.g., on some machines I have to add "acpiphp" for ACPI PCI Hot-plug support to '/etc/modules' to enable hot-plug of devices via the ExpressCard interface
[08:44] <jonasrogert> TJ-, i will look at your link, thanks
[08:44] <TJ-> jonasrogert: That sounds OK then - I was wondering if it was a VM with, say, less than 400MB RAM.
[08:44] <jonasrogert> alho, TJ-, Thanks for the help i guess i have to look a lot closer at the logs
[08:44] <TJ-> jonasrogert: Logs first; IRC last :p
[08:45] <alho> jonasrogert: good luck!
[08:45] <jonasrogert> TJ-, I have read those pretty closly but ill look again :)! i have a VM running fine with 600mb ram never had this issue?
[08:46] <jonasrogert> TJ-, is it common with that small amount of memory?
[08:46] <TJ-> jonasrogert: I know, it can be down to some apparently trivial config change. I was thinking along the lines of a resource leak that eventually left the sshd process unable to proceed. That would infer hanging connections that never properly closed down though
[08:47] <jonasrogert> TJ-, would that also make the httpd server not responding?
[08:47] <TJ-> jonasrogert: No it isn't, but what you describe does sound like a 'running out of some resource' issue - I'm also wondering about some of the 'limits' for file/socket handles
[08:48] <TJ-> jonasrogert: It would make sense, yes, that more than one service is affected, especially if they need to allocate (substantial) new resources for a connection
[08:48] <jonasrogert> TJ-, i will look for those things in the logs. Thanks a bunch!
[08:50] <doug_> hey ppl
[08:50] <doug_> can anyone see this im trying out irssi termial chat client
[08:50] <TJ-> doug_: yes
[08:50] <DJones> doug_: Yes we can see you
[08:50] <doug_> thankx alot guys
[08:51] <Shogoot> Im trying to get this issue solved. Anyone care to take a look? http://serverfault.com/questions/518947/cloned-centos-6-4-websrver-for-test-purpose-virtual-host-htaccess-redirectin
[08:52] <ikonia> Shogoot: please summerise your issue
[08:55] <hacktus0> I have problem with crontab : I did crontab -e and I wrote with nano : */1 * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" . but it don't work !!! do you help me plz ?
[08:56] <hacktus0> I have problem with crontab : I did crontab -e and I wrote with nano : */1 * * * * DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" . but it don't work !!! do you help me plz ?
[08:56] <ikonia> hacktus0: that's never going to work
[08:57] <hacktus0> NO beacose when I do echo */1 * * * * hello>>test.txt it's work
[08:57] <hacktus0> NO beacose when I do echo */1 * * * * hello>>test.txt it's work ,ikonia
[08:58] <ikonia> hacktus0: you don't have to say everything twice
[08:58] <Shogoot> ikonia, its not a very easy issue to summarise :) better if you read the post if your intrested in trying to help me out.
[08:58] <ikonia> hacktus0: and echo'ing a file to a text file is different than setting up an X display enviornment
[08:58] <ikonia> Shogoot: is this anything to do with ubuntu as I see you asking in #centos #httpd #ubuntu-server and many other channels
[08:59] <ehhh> what's the easiest way to update the flash plugin for firefox
[08:59] <ikonia> ehhh: flash has been discontinued on linux
[08:59] <hacktus0> Ok but how can I do for authorize X.
[08:59] <Shogoot> yes, but its not many other, but those your pointing out.
[08:59] <ikonia> Shogoot: what ?
[09:00] <ikonia> Shogoot: is this anything to do with ubuntu ?
[09:00] <ehhh> ikonia: no wonder it's outdated, why it's marked as outdated though i don't get then
[09:01] <hacktus0> Ok but how can I do for authorize X. ikonia
[09:01] <ikonia> hacktus0: it's not that simple
[09:01] <hacktus0> it 's on terminal ?
[09:01] <Shogoot> Not diretly, no, but this channels people has more expertise then just ubuntu. I figured ill give it a shot. :)
[09:02] <ikonia> Shogoot: please don't ask in here then as reading it, it's nothing to do with ubuntu at all, or even centos which you're running, its an apache question
[09:03] <hacktus0> ikonia can you help me with X ? please
[09:03] <ikonia> hacktus0: no,
[09:04] <EnglishQQ> !offtopic
[09:08] <harlequin516> Anyone know how I can display xclock from a remote kubuntu on my home kubuntu?  I have tried all the google search recommends, but I cannot figure it out.  I am using ssh -Y would like some more basic steps to debug this.
[09:08] <Vill> Hi, Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, why System Monitor shows in network history that my computer is uploading a lot of data taking all bandwith, and uploaded already 200MB, despite me opening just the Terminal Window?
[09:09] <harlequin516> Anybody use remote X clients?
[09:09] <Vill> oh, That's probably why, remote Desktop
[09:10] <TJ-> hacktus0: It works for me with */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK"      ... testing now without "export"
[09:11] <TJ-> hacktus0: Confirmed. You *need* "export DISPLAY=:0"
[09:11] <hacktus0> I test for moment : TJ-
[09:12] <harlequin516> DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0
[09:12] <ehhh> is it possible to timeline backup xubuntu like for example mac does with an external? just wondering
[09:13] <hacktus0> it's dont work with and without export
[09:13] <harlequin516> Why does DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 work the same as DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 for my remote xclock?  Is it not using hte ip number?
[09:13] <harlequin516> I am using export
[09:14] <harlequin516> For some reason any IP number I use on the same subnet allows my X Server to recieve xclocks display.
[09:14] <TJ-> harlequin516: You mean like: ssh -X jeeves WINEPREFIX=/home/all/Library/Downloads/Windows/wine-windows7 winecfg   ?
[09:14] <harlequin516> What's going on?
[09:15] <harlequin516> NO I am not even using ssh .
[09:15] <harlequin516> Just from my local machine.
[09:15] <histo> harlequin516: what's wrong with ssh -X ?
[09:15] <hacktus0> it's dont work with and without export TJ-
[09:16] <TJ-> hacktus0: There is something wrong with your syntax then, are there other entries in the user's crontab that might be causing an error?
[09:16] <harlequin516> From my KDE Desktop in a terminal.  I run xclock.  Works fine step 2 export DISPLAY to correct IP number.  works fine step 3 export DISPLAY=badIPnumber  still works fine.  But it SHOULD nNOT.
[09:17] <harlequin516> I don' ttunderstand what is happening.
[09:17] <histo> harlequin516: what is the full command you are using?
[09:18] <hacktus0> TJ- when I do crontab -l then it's write
[09:18] <hacktus0> more comment #jvndlfvndqsvmvcsfmdvjvsosidjv
[09:18] <hacktus0> more comment #jvndlfvndqsvmvcsfmdvjvsosidjv TJ-
[09:18] <harlequin516> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>; xclock;
[09:19] <harlequin516> export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0; xclock;
[09:19] <hacktus0> and after in down of this text i write */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK"
[09:19] <hacktus0> and after in down of this text i write */1 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 notify-send "hello" "test...OK" TJ-
[09:19] <harlequin516> where 110 is not the desktop's correct IP number.  but xclock still displays.
[09:20] <histo> harlequin516: are you sure it's getting exported?
[09:21] <harlequin516> yep set |grep DISPL shows what I set.
[09:21] <harlequin516> Is there some way that xclock is not using my DISPLAY for any reason?
[09:22] <histo> harlequin516: echo $DISPLAY
[09:22] <harlequin516> Its liek for some reason on all my systems DISPLAY is nto being read by xclock.
[09:23] <harlequin516> <IP_ADDRESS>:0
[09:23] <harlequin516> Echo gave good reply
[09:23] <histo> harlequin516: try xclock -display 192.168....:)
[09:23] <histo> harlequin516: try xclock -display 192.168....:0
[09:25] <histo> harlequin516: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html#s5
[09:25] <bilgisayarci> hey
[09:26] <ehhh> has anyone tried configuring an apple time machine/capsule to work with ubuntu ? or is it not worth it / the cost is too high compared to better alternatives
[09:26] <harlequin516> `xclock -display <IP_ADDRESS>:0`  works but shoudl not becuase my IP is not 110. `xclock -display <IP_ADDRESS>:0` does not work because it is a different subdomain.  It seems liek no matter what IP I use it works as long as it is in the same subdomain.  Is this normal?
[09:27] <ehhh> i'm only thinking get a good image backup that i can revert to incase something goes wrong
[09:29] <harlequin516> [1;5F
[09:29] <histo> harlequin516: Ask the Xorg guys
[09:30] <histo> !backup | ehhh
[09:30] <Guest5799> quit
[09:32] <savagecroc> when i enable the firewall i can't access any websites
[09:32] <harlequin516> Yeah I shoudl have asked Xorg.  Thanks though.
[09:32] <[diablo]> join #ubuntu-devel
[09:32] <[diablo]> do
[09:32] <savagecroc> i've got Default: allow(outgoing)
[09:37] <TJ-> harlequin516: What happens if you do "xclock -display ${REMOTE_IP}:0 xclock"  ?
[09:38] <harlequin516> It still shows up local.
[09:40] <TJ-> I'd be checking the hosts and NSS and netfilters configuration; sounds like some weird host/ip translation going on
[09:40] <columb> Is there any chat logs of this irc available?
[09:40] <TJ-> Try running tcpdump and sniffing the interfaces
[09:40] <DJones> !logs | columb
[09:44] <columb> histo,  are you there? Seems like after reboot my intel audio card module is not loaded again.
[09:45] <histo> columb: That's odd
[09:45] <ehhh> so basically i can either use cd-roms or what i think i'd prefer, a sturdy usb pendrive? i'm only thinking system backups not media, how much space might i need from a usb?
[09:45] <savagecroc> for a desktop setup would one use ipv6 on a day to day basis?
[09:46] <savagecroc> or can you disable it comfortably?
[09:46] <histo> ehhh: depends on how much data you have to backup
[09:47] <ehhh> histo: this will be a media center pc so i'm only thinking i take a system backup once or once in a while because when i'm done configuring and feel that it's all running stable i won't really need to do much more with it
[09:48] <StaticWIN> I have a dhcp server on my router handing out ipv4 addresses is there a way to configure ubuntu to not only handle ipv6 dhcp but also give devices internet through my ipv6 tunnel while keeping the existing ipv4 network and dhcp server intact and on the router?
[09:48] <histo> ehhh: then just create a complete disk image with clonezilla or something.
[09:48] <histo> ehhh: there are many options
[09:48] <histo> columb: you can sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[09:49] <Walex2> savagecroc: it is not necessary to use IP6 except in Asia, but it does not hurt either.
[09:49] <Guest38404> hi
[09:49] <savagecroc> Walex2: why do they need to use it in asia?
[09:50] <kingbeast> Hi Guest38404
[09:50] <StaticWIN> Walex2, Im a developer working on ipv6 specific software
[09:51] <rohitkav> My system is hanging from few days, I use Ubuntu 12.10
[09:51] <rohitkav> kindly help
[09:51] <columb> histo, how do I set fixed sample ratio in alsa? Nothing happens after sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[09:52] <StaticWIN> rohitkav, did you look at your logs?
[09:52] <ehhh> histo: one thing that just crossed my mind, that computer won't boot from usb properly, say i can't get into the os/gui after upgrade or something then i need to revert back to the backup how would i go on about that with a clonezilla disc image? (i'm asking because i just realised i might HAVE to use cds/dvds to backup even though i don't want to)
[09:53] <Fly80> hello
[09:53] <Fly80> i have a script using the command "autoRegex", but i have no such tool on my system
[09:53] <Fly80> what should I install to use it?
[09:54] <rohitkav> which logs StaticWIN
[09:54] <rohitkav> could you help
[09:54] <ikonia> Fly80: installing the package containing that command would be a start
[09:54] <Ashael> hello
[09:54] <ikonia> Fly80: or getting a new script to do the same thing without it
[09:54] <Fly80> ikonia: i was asking the package
[09:55] <hwang4> \msg hwang4 hhaah
[09:55] <Fly80> i can't find the package
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: have you looked ?
[09:55] <Fly80> yes
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: where ?
[09:55] <ehhh> histo: i think if i understand correctly with clonezilla you can boot with a livecd, then backup to usb, then boot the livecd again and use the usb from there to recover?
[09:55] <Fly80> apt-cache search autoRegex
[09:55] <rohitkav> I would be using internet on google chrome and and all of sudden system stops works StaticWIN
[09:55] <Fly80> it found nothing
[09:55] <ikonia> Fly80: it looks like a windows based tool
[09:56] <TJ-> StaticWIN: I'd think you'd use either/or/both of ip6tables/ip-route
[09:56] <Fly80> ah
[09:56] <Ashael> can anyone help me with the extremely annoying Broadcom 4313 driver (bcmwl-kernel-common)? my wireless has been dead for a couple of weeks now :/
[09:56] <Izual> hey, on startup I want to run 4 commands but not user dependent, how do I do it?
[09:56] <Fly80> I found it on stackoverflow
[09:56] <ikonia> Fly80: http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=68339&lngWId=1
[09:57] <llutz> Izual: /etc/rc.local might be a place for them
[09:57] <ikonia> Fly80: unless you are looking at a different tool
[09:57] <histo> ehhh: yes
[09:57] <vegetablesalad> Hello. I need to audio/video record my desktop, but only selected window or desktop. I need to record online lecture, and be able to work in meanwhile. Any solutions to this. Thank you for any help.
[09:57] <histo> ehhh: you can create a compressed image of your drive. You could also accomplish this with dd but You really need the partition unmounted or atleast mounted ro while you backup.
[09:57] <Fly80> ikonia: look here please
[09:57] <Fly80> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5411282/cross-compiling-boost-for-windows-on-linux
[09:57] <ikonia> Fly80: no
[09:57] <histo> !screencast | vegetablesalad
[09:58] <ikonia> Fly80: why do you want to cross-compile boost ? you can just compile it nativly
[09:58] <histo> !bcm | Ashael
[09:58] <ehhh> histo: as long as i don't have to boot directly from the usb i should be fine, i haven
[09:58] <Fly80> ikonia: i have to compile it for windows
[09:58] <Fly80> with mingw
[09:58] <ehhh> 't had any problems with any of the usbs inside of ubuntu yet it accepts everything
[09:58] <Ashael> histo: thanks, already been through that three times back and forth :(
[09:58] <Fly80> on my system
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> ubottu - i tried recordmydesktop, but it only records active desktop - it wont allow me to work on other stuff while it records, ill take a look at rest of your list, thank you
[09:59] <histo> Ashael: are you able to use a wired connection to get wireless working?
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> oh that really is a bot ?
[09:59] <vegetablesalad> cool
[09:59] <Ashael> I used to... not anymore.
[09:59] <ikonia> Fly80: http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_53_0/more/getting_started/windows.html#get-boost just download it pre-compiled
[09:59] <Ashael> mostly because i have no idea how i did it.
[10:00] <ehhh> histo: another possibility, i'm thinking of getting a bigger hdd (secondary / third) for my computer to store media on, could i just partition a second partition and store backups there`?
[10:00] <Fly80> ikonia: i can compile on linux with windows precompiled?
[10:01] <ikonia> Fly80: no, the link I've given you is boost pre-compiled for windows
[10:01] <DylanCl> Hello. Is it possible to stream games on ubuntu 13.04?
[10:01] <ehhh> histo: so i have like for example 50gb or something dedicated to system backups
[10:01] <ikonia> Fly80: so you don't need to
[10:01] <ikonia> DylanCl: "stream games" ?
[10:01] <DylanCl> To www.twitch.tv
[10:01] <DylanCl> You record your gameplay and it sends it to that site where it will be displayed live
[10:01] <ehhh> or would it be safer with the usb pendrive method?
[10:01] <DJones> vegetablesalad: A suggestion might be to run Ubuntu in a VM with the app and the recording software running in full screen so that you only record the contents of the VM
[10:01] <ikonia> DylanCl: how does it record ?
[10:02] <DylanCl> On windows, people use programs (xsplit, obs), but on ubuntu I heard people use FFMPEG (not sure about that one).
[10:02] <DylanCl> And I've been googling a while now, all the forums say that you need a script
[10:02] <vegetablesalad> Djones - doh, how did I not think of this. I have VM with XP on it. Thank you
[10:02] <ikonia> DylanCl: no idea, but from what you are saying, sounds possible
[10:02] <histo> ehhh: all disks fail so either way as long as you have a backup you are safer
[10:02] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Google is your friend... Found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/54787/record-live-streaming
[10:03] <vegetablesalad> it will take a good chunk of my sys thou
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Oops, my bad
[10:03] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: being played from your browser and saves it to your hard-drive....?
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: That was for a different kind of streaming
[10:03] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Sorry
[10:03] <DylanCl> heh no problems
[10:04] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Here we go http://www.creativetux.com/2012/11/streaming-to-twitchtv-with-linux.html
[10:04] <ehhh> histo: well i'll call myself lucky since i haven't had anything but a knockoff microsd card fail on me before (files dissapeared) and having some problems on a laptop with the hdd and basically everything else about it lol :P
[10:04] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: I tried that one, but it didn't work for me. :/
[10:05] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: I guess i'll try one more time, maybe it works on 13.04 (I tried on 12.04)
[10:05] <ehhh> so i try to buy as good quality drives as i can even if it costs a bit more . .
[10:05] <Izual> llutz, I put it in the rc.local file but it does not work on boot. However it works if I sudo /etc/rc.local
[10:06] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Tried this one? http://orkultus.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/streaming-to-twitch-tv-in-linux/
[10:06] <ehhh> are there btw anyone here with intelligence on hard drives? the main ones i can get are WD and seagate . . i've got both in the computer i'm using linux in and they've both survived 7+ years so i dunno which one to prefer, though i've read people have problems with basically all hdds at some point there's malfunctions though that can't be avoided :P
[10:06] <vubuntor132> I'm on Live Session,during Partition progress now(Moving file system - 3hrs left),can I suspend for later resume?
[10:07] <savagecroc> ugh
[10:07] <Walex2> ehhh: there is also toshiba
[10:07] <ehhh> Walex2: i don't think i
[10:07] <DylanCl> no i have not
[10:07] <DylanCl> ill try now
[10:07] <savagecroc> every time i reboot my screens go into some crappy low resolution and i have to run some command to manually add the resolution back
[10:07] <histo> ehhh: All hard drives fail
[10:07] <savagecroc> how can i stop this from happening
[10:07] <ehhh> 've  seen any toshiba drives available in my country , are they ssd's or SATA?
[10:08] <Walex2> savagecroc: not so easy, you probably need to create an 'xorg.conf' file with some magic in it
[10:08] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[10:08] <savagecroc> Walex2: it used to work, then i did an apt-get upgrade
[10:08] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Looks like there's a Git repo for some guys maintaining a script as well https://gist.github.com/brodul/3178130
[10:08] <ehhh> histo: so the best thing is basically, switch them out when you *feel* they are about to die out or is there some way to diagnose that (apart from obvious performance failure)?
[10:08] <Walex2> ehhh: toshiba make very nice SSDs and some SATA drives, but mostly SAS and 2.5"
[10:08] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: hang on
[10:08] <DylanCl> I think I found a program to stream
[10:08] <DylanCl> WebcamStudio
[10:09] <Walex2> savagecroc: the way autoconfiguration works changes with release
[10:09] <DylanCl> Oh
[10:09] <DylanCl> nevermind
[10:09] <DylanCl> it just closes after the starting screen
[10:09] <histo> ehhh: http://www.pcworld.com/article/129558/article.html
[10:09] <harlequin516> \quit
[10:09] <harlequin516> \quit
[10:09] <histo> ehhh: smart mon tools can help you check the status of yrou drives
[10:09] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Was gonna say, looks like it's not under development anymore
[10:10] <Walex2> ehhh: a symptom of drives going bad is many reallocated sectors in a short time
[10:10] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: it is
[10:10] <DylanCl> somebody restarted it
[10:10] <TJ-> ehhh: use SMART and smartd to monitor impending failure indicators
[10:10] <DylanCl> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxkZ_wh6t7jbcTFIU3RBVUt1R3c/edit
[10:11] <TJ-> ehhh: Use mirrored (RAID-1) drives, have a hot spare ready to go
[10:11] <DylanCl> ah well
[10:11] <DylanCl> the maker said it was unstable
[10:11] <DylanCl> let me try the script you sent me
[10:11] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: k
[10:14] <ehhh> ok i installed smartmontools from apt-get though i get command not found when i try to run
[10:14] <ehhh> do i need to install a gui?
[10:15] <Vec_> Hi, i'm having an issue with printing. OS: Ubuntu 13.04. CUPS ver: 1.6.2-1ubuntu5. Printer: Canon Pixma MP800. What happens: I print a simple textfile from terminal (lp derp.txt), the printer starts printing letters on the paper and it looks like it should, then halfway through the printer stops printing and just sits there with the paper in its mouth. If i disconnect the printer from electricity
[10:15] <Vec_> and reconnects it then ejects the paper it was holding. The paper has the full document printed on it - so it seems that the printjob gets done but something makes the printer freeze just right after completion.
[10:16] <histo> ehhh: I believe it's smartctl is the cli app
[10:18] <histo> Vec_: have you tried printing a test page with cups?
[10:19] <matte_> hi
[10:19] <Vec_> histo: will do right now
[10:19] <histo> Vec_: I'm wondering if it's just an issue with lp
[10:20] <matte_> i have some problem with synaptic, it can't find the sources somehow and tells me i need a internet connection, but as ya can see i am online
[10:20] <columb> histo, seems like a found a way to fix my second audio card.  It works. So far.
[10:20] <Vec_> histo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1032456 i thought it was this, but it says that the bug was fixed so im not sure
[10:20] <ehhh> histo: searching smartctl gave me gsmartcontrol which is working, amazing how intelligent linux is
[10:20] <histo> matte_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <histo> columb: okay
[10:20] <ehhh> bottom line on it both my ata drives passed :)
[10:20] <histo> columb: that's wierd that the module isn't loading and we checked that it wasn't blacklisted....
[10:21] <Vec_> histo: The test page printed 100% successfully actually o_O
[10:22] <matte_> what's the easiest way to do that?
[10:22] <histo> Vec_: see if you are experiencing the same usb reset.. You should be able to see it in dmesg. YOu can sudo dmesg -c to clear your log first
[10:22] <histo> matte_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit & pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <histo> matte_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:22] <ehhh> do i just need to monitor the overall health self-assessment test to get a general impression or how it's hanging or should i pay attention to the attributes if they start to change as well?
[10:23] <histo> matte_: first one was a typo. The pastebinit application aids in posting multi line texts to pastebin sites.
[10:23] <matte_> ok ty
[10:23] <histo> ehhh: pay attention to failures and values outside of normal ranges
[10:23] <histo> ehhh: I would just setup a backup and not worry about it.
[10:24] <ehhh> histo: yes i think that's the best solution really
[10:24] <matte_> it can't find the sources for the files it needs
[10:24] <Vec_> histo: Ok cleared my log. Should i print the text from terminal which caused trouble like last time, then view the logs?
[10:24] <kingbeast> DylanCl, VLC can do it, I have no clue how to set it up though
[10:24] <Vec_> (please bear with me, started with ubuntu 2 days ago :)
[10:25] <DylanCl> kingbeast: heh, you can only stream music with vlc
[10:25] <kingbeast> DylanCl, you can do your desktop too
[10:25] <DylanCl> let me google
[10:26] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: You can stream video with vlc
[10:26] <matte_> i can login to synaptic just fine but it can't do a su and login to that, isn't both supposed to be root access?
[10:26] <Vec_> histo: Weird. I just succesfully printed derp.txt which was the one who stopped halfway through last time.
[10:26] <DylanCl> Is that the same as streaming a game? :P
[10:26] <ehhh> the secondary atleast looks like it's never had a problem not being mounted properly to the computer much more than the main drive, the numbers looks perfect
[10:26] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: You could probably get it to stream your desktop
[10:26] <DylanCl> No tutorials about it on google
[10:27] <Vec_> histo: Log says "usblp0: removed" "usblp 1-4:1.1: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid 0x170D
[10:27] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=14625
[10:28] <DylanCl> All nice and good, but how can I stream to twitch.tv with it?
[10:28] <StaticWIN> I have a dhcp server on my router handing out ipv4 addresses is there a way to configure ubuntu to not only handle ipv6 dhcp but also give devices internet through my ipv6 tunnel while keeping the existing ipv4 network and dhcp server intact and on the router?
[10:28] <histo> Vec_: did you clear the log or is that an old message?
[10:28] <Vec_> i cleared the log
[10:28] <Vec_> then lp derp.txt, then read log
[10:28] <histo> matte_: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   then copy and paste the info to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: May be a way of telling vlc to output flv to the rtmp address
[10:29] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Did that other script not work?
[10:29] <Vec_> histo: This baffles my mind tho. After printing the test page i can now print from terminal with lp without fail.
[10:29] <Izual> I am writing some commands in the rc.local script but they don't get executed on startup, any idea?
[10:29] <DylanCl> I did everything the tutorial said
[10:29] <DylanCl> but I don't know how to run it.
[10:29] <DylanCl> I think I'm supposed to do something with chmod
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> histo: why not use pastebinit, saves having to copy and paste :)
[10:29] <histo> Vec_: that's bizarre... who knows
[10:30] <histo> ActionParsnip: because his sources are busted and he can't install anything
[10:30] <Vec_> histo: well thanks lol. Ill try rebooting everything and see if its still golden
[10:30] <StaticWIN> chmod +x? maybe
[10:30] <matte_> here is the link to it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804297/
[10:30] <columb> histo, ok. It does not work. I tried to create .asoundrc file in home directory with http://pastebin.com/Pmb732f6
[10:31] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Oh, well yeah, you need to give the script permission to execute, chmod +x should do it
[10:31] <DylanCl> Didn't work
[10:31] <DylanCl> Btw
[10:31] <histo> matte_: because you are using an End Of Life distro
[10:31] <columb> histo, it's should prevent sound from random speed ups. But it didn't :(
[10:31] <histo> !eol | matte_ Follow these directions to upgrade
[10:31] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Err, how do you mean?
[10:32] <matte_> ok ty
[10:32] <DylanCl> There are a few destinations like, HTTP, RTSP but no RTMP
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> histo: may already have pastebinit installed :P)
[10:32] <histo> columb: What do you mean by random speed ups?
[10:32] <DylanCl> Well, I give it permission to run, but doubleclicking the .sh file just opens the text editor
[10:32] <histo> ActionParsnip: Yeah we tried that already
[10:32] <columb> histo, sometimes sound on my pc starts playing faster that it should. Like twice or so.
[10:33] <histo> columb: I would file a bug with that specific sound driver then.
[10:33] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: If you open a terminal where the script is then do "bash script.sh" should work
[10:33] <columb> Somebody suggested me to force sample rate.
[10:34] <histo> columb: or ask the alsa guys
[10:34] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: twitch-stream.sh: line 11: avconv: command not found
[10:34] <columb> Irc name?
[10:34] <histo> columb: #alsa
[10:35] <argoneus> Hello
[10:35] <argoneus> My laptop tends to freeze often, and always freezes when switching to a tty and back
[10:35] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: you probably need to install ffmpeg "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg"
[10:35] <argoneus> When using vgaswitcheroo with my hybrid ATI/Intel graphics
[10:36] <argoneus> But without it the discrete card is on, which leads to my battery dying quick and the laptop being hot
[10:36] <argoneus> is there a reliable way to -only- use the Intel GPU?
[10:36] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: ah yeah
[10:36] <histo> argoneus: the discrete card should be the Intel
[10:37] <DylanCl> [x11grab @ 0x9545b80] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument
[10:37] <argoneus> histo: the discrete is the AMD one.. no?
[10:37] <columb> histo, how do I load my unloaded card again?
[10:39] <ss_haze> transcode -J stabilize -i video.mov where does output is stored?
[10:39] <ss_haze> tmp is not answer
[10:39] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: [x11grab @ 0x9545b80] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument (not sure if you read it when I sent it before)
[10:40] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Yeah i did, just having a look :P
[10:40] <DylanCl> could it be because I have a wrong INRES maybe?
[10:41] <histo> columb: I don't think we did last time. But you could sudo rmmod whatever_module
[10:41] <ss_haze> anybody uses transcode to stabilize videos?
[10:41] <histo> columb: lspci -k   will show you which kernel module is in use for that card.  However, I though we just sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel last time and you switched in gui to the intel card.
[10:42] <histo> argoneus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[10:43] <martinfletcher__> hey all
[10:43] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Not sure... Just found this script though which was put up literally yesterday so might be more up to date http://pastebin.com/0NNHe6ES
[10:43] <histo> argoneus: you are write ... Silly naming they shouldn't call it discrete
[10:43] <martinfletcher__> i am in need of a little help setting up a samba file server
[10:43] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: VI_RES is video in res etc, VO is vid out
[10:44] <martinfletcher__> i need to get the server authenticating samba shares and logins to a 2008 server active directory domain
[10:44] <DylanCl> What is a good res to use?
[10:44] <martinfletcher__> any ideas?
[10:44] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Depends on the res of your monitor :P
[10:44] <DylanCl> 1366x768
[10:45] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Yeah, so try using 1366x768 for VI_RES
[10:45] <histo> !ad | martinfletcher__
[10:45] <histo> martinfletcher__: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory
[10:45] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Leave the rest for now, remember to have the file in your home directory with your twitch key in it
[10:46] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5804327/
[10:48] <martinfletcher__> i am setting it up on debian 7, hoping that anyone here might be able to help
[10:49] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Hmm, that damn error... Not sure tbh, will Google
[10:49] <histo> martinfletcher__: why don't you ask in #debian
[10:49] <martinfletcher__> i have, but there seems to be little help
[10:49] <histo> martinfletcher__: well this is ubuntu support. You are offtopic. You can also try in #samba
[10:50] <histo> !alis | martinfletcher__
[10:50] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Just tried running the script on my system and hit "[x11grab @ 0x16fcf40] Couldn't parse video size. :0.0: Invalid argument" error, but didn't get any of the errors you just pasted
[10:50] <DylanCl> damn me and my unknown errors :P
[10:50] <Guest43535> is there a log for serial connections? i try to use direct serial connection but get no output on the connecting machine. where to check on the receiving machine if it notices the connection attempt?
[10:50] <compdoc> martinfletcher__, setting up active directory is more involved than a 'little help'
[10:50] <ehhh> can a mid-priced graphics card with hdmi output be a viable upgrade to an onboard one with only vga? i read that vga supports higher resolution but that hdmi is a bit sharper (clearer?) because vga converts from digital to analog, then to digital again while hdmi is digital all the way
[10:51] <martinfletcher__> compdoc, i have the directory setup, i am just having trouble getting the debian/samba to auth against it
[10:51] <mumpitze1> ehhh: yes, very much so.
[10:52] <mumpitze1> ehhh: any videocard with DVI or hdmi, DVI preferred, will give you a higher res than when you have vga output only on your PC
[10:52] <mumpitze1> ehhh: no need for midpriced. 30$/€ is enough
[10:53] <ehhh> mumpitze1: a cheap upgrade then, though it might be worth mentioning that my tv screen isn't full hdmi it's an early plasma i think it supports a bit above 720p
[10:54] <mumpitze1> it will then usually only support 1366x768 at most. at that resolution you shouldn't need to replace vga at all
[10:54] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, most plasma tvs support 180i as well as 720p
[10:54] <argoneus> does bootchart help if I'm experiencing -very- long boot times?
[10:54] <BluesKaj_> 1080i that is
[10:55] <BluesKaj_> ehhh,^
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: I use dmesg.   run:  dmesg | less      look for large gaps in the numbers in the left colomn. Those are seconds since the kernel came up
[10:55] <ehhh> BluesKaj_: yes i can probably figure out the what resolution i can get out of hdmi by switching on my xbox since it's connected with hdmi, might yield some results
[10:55] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: ehhhhh
[10:55] <argoneus> like 120 seconds are one and the same message repeating
[10:56] <argoneus> *ERROR* atombios stuck in loop for more than 5 secs aborting
[10:56] <argoneus> *ERROR* atombios stuck executing CE5E
[10:56] <argoneus> what the hell
[10:56] <ehhh> i heard 1080i isn't as good as 1080p though, is there any truth to that?
[10:56] <Guest43535> ehhh, if you display text on your tv and experience fuzzy fonts the dicital connection through hdmi might improve that. if you manly watch videos you might not even notice.
[10:56] <mumpitze1> BluesKaj_: 1080i, what is the point? 1080i is awful and unusable for computer use. you always want progressive, 720p or 1080p
[10:56] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, I'm using a plasma , but it's 3yrs old so it supports mos re's available , std is 1920x1080
[10:57] <Guest43535> i only means interlaced which is only every other line is changed from one frame to the next instead of the whole image. you might see it in fast horizontal movement. e.g. sidescrolling text
[10:57] <ehhh> Guest43535: mainly music but that will be controlled with android later on, though when i put on some full 1080p videos i really was blown away
[10:58] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: http://i.imgur.com/QjyiAL5.png does this say anything? >.>
[10:58] <ehhh> it is clear, not sharp but really really clear
[10:58] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, well  dunno , never used 1080i , but I assumed it wasn't so bad
[10:59] <mumpitze1> I don't think vga can even output interlaced
[10:59] <mumpitze1> interlaced is pretty much TV only
[10:59] <datzy> hello
[11:00] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, I'm using a plsama tv / monitor ...lots of ppl do now
[11:00] <ehhh> though the text i sometimes have to be at the edge of my seat to read text properly after i installed x instead of gnome (i guess gnome just has bigger text built into everything)
[11:00] <datzy> looking for a low-contrast gnome terminal palette
[11:00] <datzy> suggestions?
[11:00] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: Sort of fixed it
[11:01] <DylanCl> tr33m4n: sort of as in I can stream with it? :P
[11:01] <Guest43535> as mumpitze1 mentioned a very cheap gpu should suffice. so if you're unhappy with your current viewing experience it is worth a shot. expensive gpus are mainly for gaming.
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> ehh  you can help your fonts by increeasing the dpi , but don't ask me where to find it in unity/gnome
[11:01] <Guest43535> or scientific computations. but if you needed that you would know :)
[11:01] <mumpitze1> BluesKaj_: but yours does 1080p, no?
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> ehhh,^
[11:01] <tr33m4n> DylanCl: try this version http://pastebin.com/ymNu6FLb
[11:01] <BluesKaj_> mumpitze1, yes
[11:02] <ehhh> BluesKaj_: yes i adjusted it a bit at first configurations, should probably mess with it a bit more (i'm on xfce)
[11:02] <babinlonston> Hi after restarting my ubuntu12.04 server  cant ping to <IP_ADDRESS>  , while im have a look at the resolv.conf there is nil entries what I have made before , How to Permanently keep the resolv.conf entries in /etc/reslov.conf even after a restart please guide
[11:03] <BluesKaj_> ehhh, ok understood
[11:03] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: do you use network-manager? if not, install the resolvconf package and edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:03] <ehhh> should i expected any performance wise upgrades from a cheap card do you tihnk? i always assume ram and cpu speed is the main part of the performance (and the motherboard's condition)
[11:03] <babinlonston> its totally in Command line i Dont need a GUI
[11:04] <chris80> any body having experience with setting up a terminal connection between two linux machines? following this tutorial i have failed :( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[11:04] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: network-manager exists for commandline too. are you DHCP of any sort?
[11:05] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: in short, how do you configure your IP(s) currently?
[11:05] <babinlonston> Only Router have DHCP
[11:05] <babinlonston> in /etc/network/interface configured my ip like this auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static 	address <IP_ADDRESS> 	netmask <IP_ADDRESS> 	gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <datzy> Hey
[11:06] <datzy> Any GNOME low-contrast palettes?
[11:06] <chris80> ehhh, every cheap gpu should be able to handle hd video playback nowadays. if you don't do 3d heavy stuff like gaming or scientific computation on the gpu. faster gpu will provide you no gain.
[11:06] <babinlonston> and in resolv.conf i  have configured as this nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:06] <babinlonston> after a restart its not there and not pinging to google
[11:07] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: you router has a DHCP server. that doesn't tell me how your ubuntu server gets its IP
[11:08] <ehhh> chris80: yeah i don't think 3d is entering my living room before i can drop the glasses and at a good price (though i heard you can achieve some 3d effect with red/blue glasses in a lot of screens), gaming i'm just trying but i don't think the computer is capable, though i have downloaded some to try some out to see the results
[11:08] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: have you networkmanager installed?
[11:08] <babinlonston> i dont know that how can i check
[11:09] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: dpkg -l |grep network-manager | grep ^ii
[11:09] <cptcel23> can anyone tell me how to install proprietary nvidia drivers? (i've tried everything, i can't find anything the instructions are talking about)
[11:09] <babinlonston> its not showing notthink
[11:10] <mumpitze1> babinlonston: then install resolvconf
[11:10] <babinlonston> how to install it guide me
[11:10] <mumpitze1> and set your DNS via /etc/network/interfaces stanza
[11:10] <mumpitze1> you install it like any other package
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: i have no idea how to read those things
[11:10] <chris80> ehhh, if you wan't to play games on your pc a gpu might improve your fps and available effects. but that depends, if you like to play the latest blockbuster games in full glory or are settling for the occasional indy game.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: try the dmesg method
[11:11] <cptcel23> was that @ me chris88?
[11:11] <ehhh> chris80: to put it this way when it comes to games , i've got a glitched 360 running everything from ps1 and down ;)
[11:11] <sussy3> question1: will backup thunderbird (windows version) be usable by thunderbird in ubuntu? i mean will i be able to transfer my emails from windows to ubuntu like that?
[11:12] <ikonia> sussy3: depends how it works, from memory, it should work fine
[11:12] <sussy3> from memory?
[11:12] <ikonia> sussy3: yes, from my memory of how it works
[11:12] <cptcel23> anyone know how to install graphics card drivers..?
[11:12] <ikonia> cptcel23: for what card ?
[11:12] <chris80> ehhh, so if you got your gaming needs covered by the 360 don't bother sinking too much money into your pc's gpu. also a midrange gpu today out performes a 360. hardware is aging fast.
[11:13] <cptcel23> ikonia, it's a geforce 770 chipset (kfa2)
[11:13] <sussy3> how to be sure? afraid to lose my emails....
[11:13] <ikonia> cptcel23: they should be available from the ubuntu repo
[11:13] <ikonia> !nvidia | cptcel23
[11:13] <ikonia> sussy3: well, run the backup and restore the backup to verify
[11:13] <babinlonston> will u please tell me how to disable DHCP in ubuntu then the problem ill get solve
[11:14] <cptcel23> ikonia, i looked at that guide - it says click on 'system > additional drivers' - there's no 'system' to click on anywhere
[11:14] <ehhh> chris80: do you think i should stick with nvidia? (it's what's built in)
[11:14] <ikonia> cptcel23: ahh yes, it's changed now
[11:14] <cptcel23> ikonia, i found 'additional hardware' as a tab in one of the settings subwindow
[11:14] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: as I said
[11:14] <sussy3> so i have to keep windows..... install ubuntu alongside windows (and not replace).....
[11:14] <ikonia> cptcel23: I've not got a 13.04 machine here to verify
[11:14] <argoneus> it's locked up for about 2-3 minutes at one repeating error message
[11:14] <ikonia> sussy3: test on another machine as a test
[11:14] <argoneus> and from my googling the message is caused by vgaswitcheroo but I don't know what to do
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: then use the web to see what the message means...
[11:15] <cptcel23> ikonia, but it didn't list any cards, so i tried on the cli, that didn't list any drivers either
[11:15] <argoneus> ActionParsnip: I did and tried various things
[11:15] <argoneus> but no-go
[11:15] <sussy3> dont have another machine
[11:15] <ikonia> cptcel23: can you output the command "lspci" into a pastebin
[11:15] <ikonia> sussy3: then you'll have to get creative
[11:16] <ikonia> sussy3: or do more research
[11:16] <mumpitze1> cptcel23: best use the command "lspci -nn"
[11:16] <ikonia> sussy3: from memory though, it works fine
[11:16] <ikonia> cptcel23: lspci is fine
[11:16] <mumpitze1> argoneus:what laptop is it and how do you disable the ati chip?
[11:16] <cptcel23> i think the relevant line is:..... NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1184] (rev a1)
[11:16] <argoneus> mumpitze1: Probook 4340s
[11:16] <argoneus> with AMD 7570M and HD3000
[11:16] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I have a T400 with intel/ati and have never seen such a message
[11:17] <ikonia> cptcel23: I asked you to output the command - not what you think is relevant
[11:17] <argoneus> I disable it by adding echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[11:17] <argoneus> mumpitze1: the strangest thing is
[11:17] <argoneus> that once it boots and works fine, just one gpu, no freezes
[11:17] <argoneus> and other times it takes forever to boot, throws those errors
[11:17] <argoneus> and then freezes when switching to tty
[11:17] <sussy3> so what you are saying is that the backup should be the same kind of file for thunderbid(windows) and thunderbird(ubuntu) right?
[11:18] <ikonia> sussy3: yes, it's not platform specific,
[11:18] <cptcel23> ikonia, mumpitze1 http://pastebin.com/2GXyHpi2
[11:18] <sussy3> ok thank you... just another quick question....
[11:19] <david> hi
[11:20] <mumpitze1> argoneus: sounds like a race condition to me.
[11:20] <argoneus> race condition?
[11:20] <mumpitze1> argoneus: where do you have you echo command exactly?
[11:20] <argoneus> mumpitze1: /etc/rc.local
[11:21] <chris80> ehhh, i only know so much. for linux i currently preferre nvidia for better driver support. but than again if playing the latest games i still have to boot into windows and there it doesn't matter. i buy mostly following bang for the buck reviews that sort gpus by fps/$
[11:21] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so that looks all clean
[11:22] <sussy3> say my comp has a 64bit capable processor but windows is installed 32bit version... i will proceed with a alongside windows (installation), i mean without removing windows.... can i install ubuntu 64bit or do i need to install ubuntu 32bit? i mean does it matter or not that windows is 32bit in choosing which ubuntu version to install?
[11:22] <ikonia> sussy3: you can install 64bit fine
[11:22] <mumpitze1> argoneus: I suggest to do it immediately after /sys and /proc are mounted before anything else. at least for trying
[11:22] <argoneus> mumpitze1: how would I do that? I'm new to linux, sorry
[11:22] <chris80> ehhh, if there is something i really like to play and can't i consider if it's worth to put down the money for a new gpu. especially if the list of games is getting longer :) if you have your gaming needs covered save your money.
[11:23] <sussy3> ok thank you. that should be it for me today :)
[11:23] <chris80> ehhh, but i wouldn't be happy with a analog connection anymore which vga is. i wannt crisp images. and that can be remedied for 50$
[11:24] <cptcel23> ikonia, hmm..  any ideas?
[11:24] <ikonia> cptcel23: just having a look at that cards linux support
[11:24] <cptcel23> ikonia, thanks
[11:25] <alexandros_c> good morning, yahoo mail keeps reloading. How can I stop this behaviour?
[11:25] <ikonia> cptcel23: ok, so it looks like the standard nvidia package should support that card ok
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> susundberg: you can install 64bit Ubuntu if you wish. The fact that your Windows is 32bit doesn't have any bearing
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> alexandros_c: in what aplication
[11:26] <susundberg> ActionParsnip: bad tab expand`
[11:26] <ehhh> chris80: yes i am browsing the webshops for the cheaper kind, a lot of nvidia gefore processors ranging from brands like ASUS, ZOTAC, gigabyte, i haven't gotten to look at amd's yet i've read that they're not the best for linux
[11:27] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, sussy3 is gone
[11:27] <alexandros_c> ActionParsnip: in firefox
[11:27] <cptcel23> ikonia, so how to i properly go about installing it/selecting it for use since none of the normal tools work
[11:27] <ikonia> !info nvidia
[11:27] <ikonia> !info nvidia-current
[11:27] <ikonia> cptcel23: installing the package "nvidia-current" should install the correct kernel modules
[11:28] <ikonia> cptcel23: you then should be able to configure the xorg.conf to use it