[00:00] <linuxuz3r> Surakusa, try sed
[00:00] <linuxuz3r> #sed
[00:00] <Surakusa> linuxuz3r: Can I do that in one line? :3
[00:01] <Surakusa> like "head -n 1 | sed 's/ /_/g' for example?
[00:01] <linuxuz3r> im not in linux
[00:01] <linuxuz3r> i dont know if you can call sed in bash
[00:02] <cuong_t> I got this from their (system 76) support, can anyone verify this: "All of our laptops will output to two external monitors simultaneously. The Lemur, Pangolin, and Gazelle will all need to have the built-in display turned off before you can turn on the second display. The Bonobo can output to three monitors simultaneously."
[00:02] <Surakusa> linuxuz3r: ok i'll test around a bit. :P
[00:02] <Surakusa> linuxuz3r: thanks
[00:02] <pzula> is it possible to delete all OS's listed in Grub, or do I just need to overwrite all partitions with one OS first?
[00:03] <blob4000> is 13.04 officially supported as of Thursday?
[00:03] <pzula> I have dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu
[00:03] <linuxuz3r> it seems that you know sed why ask it in ubuntu?
[00:03] <OerHeks> blob4000, yes
[00:03] <dr_willis> blob4000:  once its released - yes.
[00:04] <blob4000> thanks! i'm looking forward to it. i've been sticking with 12.04 because of an HDMI problem i was having with 12.10
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> pzula, What is your goal here?
[00:05] <pzula> wipe both systems and reinstall both systems
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> pzula, If you need no backups, the windows install disc has a manual install function that allows you to wipe partitions and install in sized partitions. I would install it first.
[00:08] <pzula> wilee-nilee: thank you
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> pzula, no problem, I assume here that the computer is not a safe boot uefi setup, and the windows disc is not a OEM, but a regular install disc.
[00:09] <LjL> Surakusa: if by special characters you mean non-ascii, perhaps you could pipe it some utility like "iconv", "recode" or "tcs"
[00:09] <pzula> yes i have a regular install disc
[00:10] <luckycrema> ciao
[00:10] <luckycrema> qualcuno parla italiano?
[00:10] <OerHeks> !it | luckycrema
[00:10] <pzula> wilee-nilee: would it be best to first install windows on a smaller partition and then when I load the Ubuntu disc, it will see the remaining free space?
[00:11] <Athanasius> Yes hello. Quick question: Recommendation for software to make a flow-chart?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> pzula, Yeah, you want windows at the front of the disc.
[00:11] <blob4000> quick question: if i'm running 12.04 LTS at the moment, what's the best way to update to 13.04 on Thursday? just run the update manager, and disable the requirement for LTS versions?
[00:11] <dr_willis> pzula:  when you reinstall linux it will redo the grub menus
[00:11] <OerHeks> blob4000, correct
[00:11] <pzula> wilee-nilee: so it will install grub by itself?
[00:11] <blob4000> OerHeks: thanks! is there any significant advantage to a fresh install?
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> pzula, Yeah as dr_willis mentioned
[00:12] <pzula> awesome
[00:12] <pzula> thank you both
[00:12] <dr_willis> blob4000:  best may be to update the day befor.. ;) of wait a few days afterwards.. of use the torrents thursday to get the iso.
[00:12] <blob4000> yeah
[00:12] <blob4000> cool :)
[00:12] <Surakusa> LjL: Thanks for the reply! Well this is the text I got (hopefully this webchat will work) ONE·_YEAR_(1%)_PREPAYMENT_ADDENDUM_TO_NOTE that little 'dot' to the right of One and the % sign I want rid of. lol
[00:12] <dr_willis> every release the servers get hammered. ;) i tend to update/upgrade the day befor.. then wait out the storm
[00:13] <OerHeks> blob4000, my way is: download the 13.04 iso, burn or dd to usb device, upgrade, if all went well you can decide to do a fresh install, anyway you have the iso to repair your install.
[00:13] <blob4000> dr_willis: yeah? so when you get it the day before, it's still the beta?
[00:13] <dr_willis> blob4000:  technically yes.. but when i next update a few days later its the final. but theres normally very few updates.
[00:13] <blob4000> OerHeks: good idea
[00:14] <dr_willis> using the torrents after reelase will be the fastest time to get the ISO files also. ;)
[00:14] <blob4000> i predict 13.04 will be the last version with the current Unity interface, things will start to really change by 13.10, towards a concise UI between devices
[00:14] <OerHeks> dr_willis +1
[00:14] <LadyNikon> libreoffice or openoffice
[00:14] <LadyNikon> discuss!@
[00:14] <dr_willis> some of the fastest speeds ive EVER seen  my isp do for me was ubuntu torrents on release day
[00:14] <blob4000> libre!
[00:14] <hiyo> Hi can anyone point me to a current guide for packaging python programs for Ubuntu?
[00:15] <dr_willis> LadyNikon:  openoffics is not in ubuntu any more.. so theres not a lot  to discuss
[00:15] <OerHeks> !libreoffice
[00:15] <blob4000> LadyNikon: libreoffice seems to be better supported now, and version 4 just came out. it's very nice
[00:15] <LadyNikon> dr_willis: yea?  I am looking at it in synaptic
[00:15] <LadyNikon> libreoffice it is! thanks all :)
[00:15] <dr_willis> you sure its not actually installing libreoffice. since that is installed by default
[00:15] <blob4000> cheers!
[00:16] <dr_willis> libreoffice has been the default for what? the last 3 releases?
[00:16] <LadyNikon> yea it is installed. but I wanted to know mainly if it was worth keeping :) dr_willis
[00:16] <blob4000> i'm curious what the ubuntu desktop team is up against, in terms of show stopping bugs left to fix for 13.04, any have a quick link to their bugzilla?
[00:17] <blob4000> i found it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-13.04
[00:21] <hiyo> Hi can anyone point me to a current guide for packaging python programs for Ubuntu?
[00:21] <dr_willis> be same as packageing any other stuff i imagine hiyo
[00:21] <Surakusa> hey LjL I think I got it. :) I guess that little symbol is allowed in file naming conventions. :)
[00:21] <dr_willis> !apt
[00:26] <regor> cc
[00:26] <spydon> At what time does the release usually come out?
[00:26] <dr_willis> spydon:  there is no set time
[00:27] <dr_willis> seen it early. seen it late...
[00:27] <OerHeks> yeah, 6.06
[00:27] <_098v_> Does anyone know how to install different themes for Xubuntu 12.10?
[00:27] <dr_willis> seen way too many people worry about  getting it the instant it releases also
[00:27] <spydon> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[00:28] <regor> hey i am new
[00:28] <dr_willis> people will be asking every 5 min.. 'is it out yet....' ;P
[00:29] <blob4000> how quickly do all of the mirrors get a new release?
[00:29] <blob4000> many hours i'm guessing?
[00:30] <dr_willis> i think thats part of the wait for 'official' release.. they sync the mirrors then say  'its out'
[00:30] <dr_willis> but really.. its best to use the torrents to get the ISO files
[00:31] <blob4000> :P
[00:32] <dr_willis> and you can then upgrade from the iso files i belive
[00:32] <The_Rufus> hello
[00:33] <The_Rufus> I desperately need help
[00:33] <dr_willis> !ask
[00:35] <The_Rufus> I have a server running ubuntu server. I had the OS installed on a flashdrive which has died. All my important data was in /home which resided on a HighPoint RocketRaid 2320 RAID5 array. I re-installed Ubuntu server 10.04 and installed the appropriate drivers. When I mount the filesystem on the RAID array, every directory is intact and contains all the previous installations information except for the /home directory, which is empty
[00:36] <dr_willis> check your old fstab? perhaps /home/ was mounted from some other location
[00:37] <The_Rufus> what's the path to fstab?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Sounds like the fstab was on the flash drive, though I agree about your guess as to the problem.
[00:37] <dr_willis> im rereading what you said.. and it seems a little confuseing..  /home/ was on a raid. everything was there except /home/   you mean / was on a raid. and everything (/etc /var /lib) is there except /home ?
[00:38] <dr_willis> fstab is in /etc/
[00:38] <The_Rufus> the flashdrive was mounted as /, /home/ was on the raid array
[00:38] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: Have you mounted the RAID array yet?
[00:38] <foobArrr> printing problem: my printers work for a few pages, then stop printing. the print queue window shows "Printing ...", the kde printer settings panel shows "in use", but nothing happens anymore. after reboot they work again, but only for a few pages. same behavior with two different printers (Brother HL-2030 and Oki B4100), same behavior on a fresh user account. 12.10 64bit
[00:39] <falcom> foobArrr, make sure you got a stable driver?
[00:39] <dr_willis> untill you mount the raid - its not accessable. :)
[00:39] <The_Rufus> old fstab has the entry UUID=blahblahblah /home ext4 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[00:40] <dr_willis>   The_Rufus  use the 'sudo blkid' command to identify what partion is /home/ and mount it.
[00:40] <dr_willis> or copy that line to your current /etc/fstab and 'sudo  mount /home'
[00:40] <sjd_zeus> join #ubuntu-cn
[00:41] <dankodigo> hi
[00:41] <foobArrr> falcom: I use the same ppds that I used a year ago, and back then they worked fine. also: 2 different printers, 2 different manufacturers, I doubt it's a driver issue.
[00:41] <dr_willis> you dont really have to moiunt it over your current /home/ you could mount it to /old-home/ or  /media/oldhome
[00:41] <dankodigo> asd
[00:41] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: In re-reading your past comments I'm confused as well. What you're saying seems self contradictory.
[00:41] <yll_alex> ni hao
[00:41] <The_Rufus> that's why I'm so confused
[00:41] <dr_willis> The_Rufus:  you are booted from what right now? a differnt flash drive?
[00:42] <The_Rufus> no, installed new installation onto an 80gb HDD
[00:42] <dankodigo> hi everyone im from chile
[00:43] <dr_willis> so you need to mount youir old home, in order to access it.. the new install has no idea what/where your old home was.. unless you told the installer where it was
[00:43] <dr_willis> hopefully you dident tell it to format the old home...
[00:43] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: How did you mount the filesystem from the RAID array? Please give the exact commands you ran, and the current output of "cat /proc/mounts".
[00:45] <MartynKeigher> hey all... need advice. i need to connect my 12.04 server to a mysql server via odbc. what is the best method for doing this??
[00:45] <The_Rufus> I've added the line to my current fstab and I'm rebooting
[00:45] <MartynKeigher> the mysql db sits behind an external FQDN that i have access to. just need the best method of creating the odbc link to it.
[00:45] <Ray2> jordan_U...I have 10.04 installed on sda1 w/grub-1.98 installed to mbr....I also have 12.04 o sda3
[00:46] <Ray2> oops
[00:47] <The_Rufus> it worked
[00:47] <The_Rufus> @dr_willis: THANKYOU SO MUCH
[00:48] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: Congratulations. Though I still have no idea what your current setup is, and I'm a little worried that you don't know either.
[00:49] <Ray2> jordan_U...I have 10.04 installed on sda1 w/grub-1.98 installed to mbr....I also have 12.04 installed on sda3..when I installed 1204 all I did was update grub...Now I want to delete 10.04 what do I need to do to insure 12.04 grub will be on mbr
[00:49] <The_Rufus> It's really not that complicated. / is on an 80gb HDD (previously on an 8gb USB flash disk, which died) and I have a 10Tb RAID5 array on a Highpoint RocketRaid controller which /home is mounted on
[00:50] <The_Rufus> though now I'm going to mirror my OS drive on a regular basis
[00:50] <The_Rufus> ;)
[00:50] <dr_willis_> at least you had your old fstab to look at The_Rufus
[00:51] <The_Rufus> word of advice, don't get Highpoint controller cards. Their driver support is $*#(@*^ hideous
[00:51] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: I think the more important point to learn from this is that RAID is not a replacement for backups. Your actual data is much more important than the configuration stuffs in /etc/.
[00:52] <The_Rufus> I know, and being in IT, I preach that to people all the time
[00:52] <The_Rufus> problem is, I've ran out of storage space to backup onto
[00:53] <Kilroy_was_here> hi all, ubuntu noob here, just saying hi
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Ray2: Ubuntu (on BIOS based systems) installs grub to the MBR of the "first" drive by default. So Ubuntu 12.04's grub is probably what's in the MBR already. You can ensure that though by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that the drive whose MBR you want grub's boot sector installed to is selected. (Use space bar to select / unselect a device, and Enter to continue to the next screen).
[00:53] <willows> hey
[00:55] <The_Rufus> I know this is #ubuntu, but has anyone given ZorinOS a go?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> The_Rufus: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[00:56] <The_Rufus> cheers
[00:56] <Ray2> Jordan_u...Thanks for the info
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Ray2: You're welcome.
[01:00] <ClientAlive> I have a tar -xvf * running in a terminal is about 1 gb to extract. It been a long time and it "appears" to still be processing. Is there any way to check what's actually going on with it so I don't sit here waiting all night if there's a problem?
[01:00] <The_Rufus> what file do I edit to force eth0 to use a static IP on boot?
[01:01] <mogul218> does anyone have a way to get pysdm to work on 13.04 or mint 14.1?
[01:02] <Ben64> mogul218: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04, mint support is on a different network
[01:03] <ClientAlive> nevermind
[01:03] <ClientAlive> got
[01:03] <ClientAlive> got it
[01:05] <MartynKeigher> hey all, if i ls -l a folder i get the following:  drwxr-xr-x 8 775 root  4096 Apr 22 22:04 dashing
[01:05] <MartynKeigher> i need the 775 and root to be different
[01:06] <qin> MartynKeigher: man chown; man chmod; what do you mean by different?
[01:07] <MartynKeigher> well i cant edit files in those folders as user name Martyn or dash  (the folder owner)
[01:07] <MartynKeigher> let me check something!
[01:07] <MartynKeigher> sorry one sec.
[01:08] <MartynKeigher> i'll be bk in abit.
[01:14] <qin> The_Rufus: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:15] <The_Rufus> thankyou
[01:16] <qin> The_Rufus: router setting may need to be edited.
[01:18] <dr_willis> i normally set my router to assign the same ip to  the same mac on my home lan.. saves me some hassles at times.
[01:19] <dr_willis> i know my printer is always xx.xx.xx.15   ;)
[01:19] <peepsalot> hello, I have a problem where I can't view my home folder.  i think it has something to do with a network share that is mounted as a subfolder in my home directory.  the network share is not currently accessible, but it's making ls freeze and nautilus shows empty home dir
[01:19] <peepsalot> i can't even ctrl-c out of ls
[01:19] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  what does the  'mount' command say is mounted?
[01:20] <peepsalot> <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/peeps/storage on /home/peeps/storage type nfs4 (rw,proto=tcp,rsize=65536,wsize=65536,port=2049,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>,clientaddr=<IP_ADDRESS>)
[01:20] <The_Rufus> is there anyway to open a file for editing as su in File Manager?
[01:20] <dr_willis> a  nfs share.. Hmm
[01:21] <dr_willis> The_Rufus:  i recall seeing some  nautilus extensions/scripts for ''edit as root....'  but not sure where i saw them at. or where they came from
[01:21] <The_Rufus> damn
[01:21] <peepsalot> dr_willis, hrm, i just tried to umonut it, but it says its busy
[01:21] <peepsalot> because the freakin host isn't on this network
[01:21] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  i recall theres a force unmount option. but ive not messed with nfs in ages
[01:22] <WeThePeople> hi
[01:22] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  may be a good idea to make it mount to /media/peeps/storage in the future, and perhaps setup a soft link from /home/peeps/storage to /media/peeps/storage
[01:23] <dr_willis> The_Rufus:  given how rarely i would need such  an option. ;) easier to just do a 'gksudo gedit /path/to/file'
[01:23] <peepsalot> dr_willis, i tried umount -f and even that said it was busy
[01:24] <dr_willis> The_Rufus:  askubuntu.com most likely has  some info on adding the option to your menus
[01:24] <dr_willis> peepsalot:  bummer.. try -fffffff   ;)
[01:24] <dr_willis> kidding..
[01:24] <BeeBuu> how can i know A software version in ubuntu 13.04 in here?
[01:24] <dr_willis> i recall nfs not playing nice when  the remote servers drop connection.
[01:25] <Addle> Well, hard mounting NFS can help protect from data loss. A feature, not a bug. But you can soft mount it.
[01:25] <dr_willis> BeeBuu:  i think you can /msg ubottu  release packagename              and get the info
[01:25] <Jordan_U> BeeBuu: #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 (though you can check package info for any realease of Ubuntu from http://packages.ubuntu.com ).
[01:26] <Addle> peepsalot: Try restarting nfs-common and then do a umount.
[01:26] <dr_willis> actually it sould be   /msg ubottu  info release packagename       i think  ;)
[01:26] <pzula> when installing ubuntu on a partition that is seperate from windows 7, what do I select from the "use as" menu? FAT32? EXT2?
[01:27] <dr_willis> pzula:  default would be ext4 for most linux partitions
[01:27] <BeeBuu> dr_willis: thanks.that's what i want.
[01:27] <BeeBuu> Jordan_U: and thanks to you.
[01:27] <Jordan_U> BeeBuu: You're welcome.
[01:27] <peepsalot> Addle, nfs-common: unrecognized service
[01:28] <ZeloZelos> SimonM?
[01:30] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: What is the exact umount -f command you ran, and what was the exact output?
[01:31] <peepsalot> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5597202/
[01:32] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: "sudo umount -l /home/peeps/storage" should at least allow you to do a lazy umount, which, while not completely unmounting will at least stop future processes from freezing and allow you to use the directory again.
[01:34] <Addle> peepsalot: If you want it to just fail next time and not hang until the server comes back, you should be able to soft mount it.
[01:34] <Addle> peepsalot: Just add 'soft' to the mount options.
[01:34] <peepsalot> ok i will try that, thanks
[01:35] <Addle> peepsalot: Of course, if the nfs server goes away for any reason, you could lose data, so hard mounting has its advantages, but it's an option. :)
[01:36] <peepsalot> Addle, what would happen if i write to a disconnected soft mounted nfs mount
[01:36] <peepsalot> it would act like it went ok, but data goes nowhere?
[01:36] <Addle> peepsalot: It should give an error, but that depends on what's writing.
[01:37] <Addle> peepsalot: Honestly, I always go with hard mounts to avoid problems, so not sure. But presumably an app that tried to write would get errors and should report it.
[01:37] <peepsalot> ok, well i don't write to it often, and i should know when i'm on my home network or not, so i will give it a try
[01:38] <Addle> peepsalot: In theory, it should act somewhat like if a SMB share went down.
[01:38] <jordan__> Is this a good place to ask support related questions?
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> jordan__, You see this in the channel header " Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[01:39] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: As explained in "man nfs", unless you specify the sync mount option write functions will return success before the data has neccessarily been sent to the server. If the server disconnects between the process writing to the file, and that data actually being sent to the server, the process will never know that it failed.
[01:39] <jordan__> wilee-nilee: o, my bad
[01:39] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: But of course the sync mount option has its own significant downsides.
[01:39] <jordan__> how did I miss that lol
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> jordan__,  Nah, it is all good. ;)
[01:44] <Jordan_U> peepsalot: Also mentioned in that man page is that if you have a particularly important, application, that won't mind blocking on write for a long time, you can open the file with the O_SYNC flag so that you know if the write succeeded or failed (to actually get to the server).
[01:44] <Addle> Three cheers for man pages. :)
[01:49] <sybian> can someone tell me why worf fell in love with counsellor troy?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> sybian, Cross species fetish.
[01:52] <sybian> wilee-nilee, but im vanilla
[01:53] <foobArrr> why do some programs' print dialogs have no print preview buttion? (comparison firefox vs gedit: http://i.imagebanana.com/img/bagx2rku/Selection_009.png )
[02:00] <_0xDE1337> Hello, is there any way to have separate themes for the system and say firefox?
[02:01] <dr_willis> firefox has its own theme extensions that can change  its looks.. but not sure about the actual window decorations
[02:01] <_0xDE1337> Light on dark themes work great for system menus and title bars but not for websites
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> _0xDE1337, There is a FF themes addon probably more then one.
[02:03] <_0xDE1337> Right, I tried installing a different theme for which changed the menus and such but many text boxes are still black
[02:04] <dr_willis> ive always had issues with 'dark themes'  and some text boxs.
[02:04] <dr_willis> in ff, or other apps.. may be how the apps are not using gtk3  properly.. not sure what the deal is
[02:05] <dr_willis> best themes ive found so far ar some of the ones at the webupd8 ppa. theres one that is customizeable/tweakable... but i cant recall its name. (not on my ubuntu box right now)
[02:05] <_0xDE1337> Yeah, annoying stuff like this: http://i.imgur.com/5rcKTlz.png
[02:06] <Jpmh> foobArrr: gedit merely passes the text to the spooler - firefox actually page formats it (renders it)  and then passes the rendered code.  Once there is a rendering engine it is easy enough to show it
[02:06] <dr_willis> the whole theme obsession seems tobe  fadeing away in the last year or 2 ;)
[02:06] <Addle> Yeah, I have the same issues every time I go for a dark theme. Really annoying.
[02:06] <Addle> Always end up with some black on black text, somewhere. *sigh*
[02:06] <_0xDE1337> I honestly just hate purple and orange
[02:07] <_0xDE1337> I'll just find a simple light theme I guess
[02:07] <dr_willis> i forget what theme im even using.. one of the webupd8 ones.
[02:07] <relipse> how do I chmod all directories in my /html folder? chmod -R u+x,g+x,o+x is what i have so far
[02:09] <Addle> relipse: Given the flags you showed, chmod -R ugo+x /html
[02:09] <relipse> Addle: ONLY directories
[02:09] <Addle> relipse: Oh, you just want the dirs... Hm...
[02:10] <qin> relipse: find /html -type d -exec chmod...
[02:10] <Addle> relipse: Let me figure out a way. I can't recall.
[02:10] <Addle> There we go, that's what I was aiming for. Thanks qin.
[02:11] <qin> i think this fails to whites or something...
[02:11] <Addle> qin: I usually use xargs for that, and I remember jimmying it to do it right.
[02:12] <rob_k> just playing with an android irc client... quiet in here :p
[02:13] <MartynKeigher> ok so i have apache installed on my ubuntu server and i have wordpress installed on it. works fine. http://lab.martynkeigher.com i also have a dashing website installed on the same server, at port 3030, the url for that is http://lab.martynkeigher.com:3030/dashing  How can i set it so that if i go to http://lab.martynkeigher.com/dashing it goes to http://lab.martynkeigher.com:3030/dashing?? any thoughts?
[02:14] <Addle> relipse: find /html -type d | xargs -iBLAH chmod ugo+x "BLAH"
[02:14] <relipse> this worked --> find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755
[02:14] <Addle> relipse: Something along those lines should work. Test it to be sure.
[02:14] <Addle> relipse: Good stuff, then :)
[02:14] <Addle> P.S. xargs rocks.
[02:14] <Jpmh> MartynKeigher: I think you should be in the #apache forum - however this is what ServerName and ServerAlias are for in the Virtual Host system
[02:15] <_0xDE1337> Having an issue with Empathy; Only one or two of my Facebook contacts are displayed
[02:15] <_0xDE1337> And I can see around 30 online on the website
[02:19] <qin> relipse: apparently: chmod +X is another option
[02:19] <bgamari> Where can one find Lucid packages?
[02:20] <MartynKeigher> will do thanks! :)
[02:20] <GinTonicool> hi guys, i installed gwget in debian2.6.32 ,when i run 'gwget' in terminal it show error " (gwget:18664): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported " what's wrong ?
[02:21] <GinTonicool> can somebody help me ,thanks a lot
[02:22] <kurokin> Quick q, after trying to make ubuntu unattended (power cord + ethernet cord + teamveiwer @ startup), it keeps coming up with the system is running in low-graphics mode. I was wondering how i would go about getting around this.
[02:24] <relipse> what is xargs
[02:24] <tekkidd> Question about Untiy. Is there a way to set unity so when you maximize a windows, its doesn't push the window border into the bar at the top
[02:24] <tekkidd> *Unity
[02:25] <GinTonicool>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597269/ , here is the question ,help me please
[02:25] <GinTonicool> why gwget can't work
[02:26] <qin> GinTonicool: gwget, what version you using, and how did you install gwget?
[02:39] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. I'm using ubuntu 12.04, and am having an issue with gretl. As #gretl doesn't exist, does anyone know of a good way to contact people about a bug or perhaps a documentation issue?
[02:42] <zerowaitstate> try their sourceforge site
[02:42] <econdudeawesome> thanks zerowaitstate
[02:52] <lkthomas> hey guys
[02:52] <lkthomas> doeslinux MD software allow to run raid5c instead of raid5 ?
[02:53] <sybian> is it possible that ants have strabism?
[02:54] <sybian> what do you mean with raid5c?
[02:54] <lkthomas> raid5 checksum
[02:54] <lkthomas> block level checksum
[02:55] <sybian> afaik raid5 from md does them by default
[02:55] <lkthomas> it's diff compare with RAID5
[02:55] <lkthomas> http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~bpkroth/cs736/md-checksums/md-checksums-paper.pdf
[02:55] <sybian> or use ZFS
[02:59] <K`zan> I need both the 32 bit and 64 bit python libraries here, running 12.04/64.  I've googled my brain loose and can't find how to get them, any help, pointers or suggestions MUCH appreciated!
[03:00] <K`zan> I do have the 64 bit ones...
[03:01] <tgm4883> K`zan, there are different python libraries for 32 and 64 bit?
[03:01] <tgm4883> I thought that was one of the points of python, to make arch independent code
[03:01] <K`zan> tgm4883: SO I am told, I've got other libraries that are both AFAIK.
[03:02] <tgm4883> K`zan, I don't think there are different python libraries for 32 and 64 bit, but if you need 32-bit libraries for other things it's usually done by adding :i386 to the end
[03:03] <K`zan> tgm4883: Will try that, thanks!
[03:03] <Jordan_U> K`zan: What is your end goal?
[03:04] <K`zan> X-Plane9/32 and X-Plane10(32 and 64 bit).
[03:04] <zj> 大家好
[03:04] <K`zan> Jordan_U:  X-Plane9/32 and X-Plane10(32 and 64 bit).
[03:07] <tgm4883> K`zan, where do you see that you need 32-bit and 64-bit python libraries
[03:09] <K`zan> When the 32 bit app attempts to run a python script, it goes toast not finding the 32bit libraries.  64 bit X-Plane and 64 bit plugins work fine, problem is that all the desired plugins are not 64 bit and may never be.
[03:09] <k2015> hi
[03:10] <vp18> help.I got 13.04 and 24 hours later my wallpaper is gone just nothing here but a white slate
[03:11] <K`zan> tgm4883: Thanks for the help, but I am just cooked, been fighting this all day - BREAK TIME :-).
[03:11] <makara> hi.   Did ANYONE else see what just happened?
[03:18] <IdleOne> JesseH: yes I saw you correct the spelling of a troll.
[03:18] <JesseH> Sorry mate :(
[03:18] <JesseH> Won't happen again.
[03:20] <betrayd> makara: you could install nvidia driver
[03:20] <nwahs> hi
[03:20] <nwahs> anyone know much about wifi tethering an android?
[03:23] <breed> Hey, anyone around?
[03:23] <Aww> Hello
[03:23] <breed> Hey, Aww, would you mind lending a hand?
[03:23] <MartynKeigher> hey...howcome i can edit files in nano via ssh, but not edit via ftp??? i am OWNER of the folder!?
[03:23] <Aww> Sure :)
[03:23] <makara> betrayd, i have Additional Drivers (jockey-gtk) installed, and it says no proprietary drivers installed. Should I just get from the nvidia directly?
[03:23] <Aww> I don't mind
[03:23] <user242432> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 wtih LXDE desktop.   How do I activate the tablet/stylus on the Fujitsu Lifebook T4220 ?
[03:25] <ClientAlive> Watch the funny -> http://youtu.be/I3IbBzujtDc
[03:25] <ClientAlive> lol
[03:25] <ClientAlive> :>
[03:26] <qin> MartynKeigher: File Transfer Protocol vs Secure Shell, ko
[03:26] <MartynKeigher> yes. ssh is fine. how can i enable my account edit files via ftp??
[03:27] <betrayd> makara most people dont know what to do with them
[03:27] <MartynKeigher> ftp would be more convinient.
[03:27] <dr_willis> !info sshfs
[03:27] <dr_willis> sshfs makes it very convient to edit files. ;)
[03:27] <dr_willis> of course theres some fuse-ftp tools out also that do a similer task.
[03:27] <usr13> MartynKeigher: ftp does not afford capabilities that ssh does.
[03:28] <qin> MartynKeigher: ftp is not, its more like http, with no markup and browser to process it
[03:28] <usr13> MartynKeigher: Why would ftp be more "convinient"?
[03:28] <JesseH> Good seeing you all again, peace
[03:28] <MartynKeigher> i can open files in notepad++ and edit them there and also i can easily browse down the nav tree
[03:29] <makara> betrayd, I tried Nvidia driver from their website  3 years ago and it messed up my display. What is the recommended way to install a video driver?
[03:30] <usr13> MartynKeigher: You can not edit files in an ftp session, ? gives list of commands.  Just use ssh.
[03:30] <qin> MartynKeigher: sshfs, or rsync
[03:30] <usr13> MartynKeigher: notepad?
[03:31] <usr13> MartynKeigher: This is Ubuntu Support Channel
[03:33] <usr13> dr_willis: I don't know about fuse-ftp
[03:33] <chvnx> http://tty1.co/url/4b
[03:33] <dr_willis> i reccomend   sshfs. ;)
[03:34] <qin> MartynKeigher: and... http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[03:34] <dr_willis> a quick death!
[03:34] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:35] <usr13> As the name applies, ftp is for File Transfer
[03:35] <dr_willis> some text editors do have ftp client features where they can edit files   over ftp. but they are basically downloading/editing/uploading them  i belive
[03:35] <pifan> Trying to install ubuntu from a flash drive onto my laptop. How can I check that the partition situation is in order?
[03:35] <dr_willis> mc can do that..  i
[03:35] <usr13> dr_willis: Yea, right, and all ftp does is download & upload
[03:35] <dr_willis> pifan:  how are your partions laid out?
[03:35] <pifan> no idea
[03:36] <pifan> dr_willis: no idea, how can i check?
[03:36] <dr_willis> pifan:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:37] <usr13> pifan: sudo fdisk -l #Send URL here and we can offer advise if needed.
[03:37] <dr_willis> or the partion editor tools on the live usb can be used. such as gparted. or other tools
[03:37] <usr13> pifan: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit #Send URL here and we can offer advise if needed.
[03:37] <brimstone222> Hi all, is there any way to flash my USB data card in Ubuntu?
[03:37] <usr13> brimstone222: "flash"?
[03:38] <usr13> brimstone222: Do you mean format?
[03:38] <ikk-> how to change the color of this : http://snag.gy/aTjc7.jpg
[03:38] <brimstone222> Yea, I mean, Erase ROM and put new firmware
[03:38] <pifan> usr13: pastebinit? that in uni/multiverse?
[03:38] <usr13> brimstone222: "firmware"   You mean filesystem?
[03:38] <pifan> usr13: or do you just mean through browswer?
[03:39] <brimstone222> I mean, unlocking a network locked USB datacard.
[03:39] <usr13> pifan: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[03:39] <pifan> usr13: 12.04
[03:39] <dr_willis> what exaactly is this 'usb datacard' ?
[03:39] <brimstone222> usr13: It's possible under windows, I have done it. But now I quit using windows. So, is there any way you know?
[03:40] <usr13> pifan: I thought it was included on 12.04
[03:40] <brimstone222> dr_willis:USB datacard i mean, USB modems,
[03:40] <dr_willis> try the windows app in wine perhaps? i imagine any software for doing flashing. may be rather picky
[03:40] <usr13> brimstone222: "network locked"?  What kind of device is it?
[03:41] <brimstone222> No, it doesn't wok in wine. It uses .net I guess, with mono it never works.
[03:41] <brimstone222> it pretty hard to make USB work under wine.
[03:41] <dr_willis> You are refering to a Carrier Locked 3g usb Modem?
[03:42] <brimstone222> dr_willis:Yea
[03:42] <brimstone222> http://telecomuncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/datacard.png
[03:43] <brimstone222> dr_willis, usr13: All these can be used with only one network unless its flashed.
[03:43] <pifan> usr13: dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/czQzSbZj
[03:43] <usr13> dr_willis: I've not heard the term datacard. I've heard "aircard"  but not datacard.  Have you?
[03:44] <dr_willis> usr13:  not really. ;)  i just call them 3g usb modems
[03:44] <brimstone222> usr13, dr_willis: Here we say 'datacard' or usb modems.
[03:44] <dr_willis> fancy marketing terms...
[03:44] <brimstone222> Not heard of aircard.
[03:45] <usr13> pifan: Which one are you installing on?
[03:45] <dr_willis> but its not a card.. its a usb dongle. ;)
[03:45] <usr13> pifan: (Neither of them have been partitioned for a linux install.)
[03:46] <brimstone222> Yea, I know. Marketing people have renamed it as Datacard.
[03:46] <brimstone222> :D
[03:46] <usr13> dr_willis: Well, yea, I've heard the term dongle too.
[03:46] <usr13> brimstone222: Good to know.
[03:46] <brimstone222> I own a CDMA modem manufactured by Tata (Photon plus).
[03:47] <brimstone222> Its network locked. We cannot use it with any other sim.
[03:47] <SonikkuAmerica> brimstone222: Is that made for catching cellular data?
[03:47] <brimstone222> Yea.
[03:47] <brimstone222> Just put one sim card and you can use cellular data as you use on phone.
[03:47] <usr13> brimstone222: I thought it was for connecting to a cellular network.
[03:48] <brimstone222> I'm not sure if its the same in your country. But we make use of sim cards extensively.
[03:48] <pifan> usr13: the 24 gig (solid state)
[03:48] <brimstone222> usr13: Its for cellular data.
[03:48] <usr13> pifan: Ok, so it's sda  Well; No, it is not partitioned for a Linux install.
[03:48] <OerHeks> brimstone222, what does " lsusb " say about your datacard?
[03:48] <brimstone222> Earlier, for unlocking, we just needed an unlock code, which could be easily obtainable once you have the IMEI number.
[03:49] <brimstone222> But now, they need flashing with a non-tweaked firmware.
[03:49] <usr13> pifan: But partitioning is part of the Ubunut install process, (well, it's also a part of all linux install processes), and it's yet to be done on sda so....
[03:49] <brimstone222> OerHeks: I'm sorry, I'm at work now. I don't have access to the card currently.
[03:50] <brimstone222> But it works fine with that locked network.
[03:50] <bazzer> quick question...what does -- at the end of append initrd=initrd.gz quiet splash -- do in grub???
[03:51] <usr13> brimstone222: It tells grub where the initrd.gz file is.
[03:51] <brimstone222> usr13: Wrong person :D
[03:51] <bazzer> usr13: no i know that i mean specifically what does -- in the line do?
[03:51] <usr13> brimstone222: ... which loads some device modules for use during the boot process.
[03:51] <pifan> usr13: so i just install ubuntu normally, specifying that i want it on the 24 gb drive?
[03:52] <usr13> bazzer: Well that in the line I suppose just names the file.  I don't know really.
[03:53] <usr13> bazzer: Where are you seeing it exactly.
[03:53] <bazzer> usr13: i dunno either and google fails me when i try to find somewhat of an explanation as to what -- does....i mean it boots with or without it
[03:54] <xiambax_> whats the channel for ubuntu beta?
[03:54] <usr13> bazzer: If it's in grub.cfg, you should be seeing the path to it.
[03:54] <linuxuz3r> night all
[03:55] <usr13> pifan: Yes, just make sure it is partitioning and installing on the 24G drive.
[03:55] <breed> Anyone know how to run two instances of XChat?
[03:56] <qwebirc80594> breed: for what?
[03:56] <usr13> bazzer: Is in on the kernel line?
[03:56] <bazzer> usr13: oh i've seen it whenever i edit boot parameters like when i want to remove quiet and splash there's always a -- at the end of the line
[03:56] <pifan> usr13: and the partitioning will happen by default in the gui install?
[03:57] <breed> qwebirc80594: to route one through Tor and the other not
[03:57] <OerHeks> xiambax, #ubuntu+1
[03:57] <usr13> bazzer: What version of Ubuntu is it?
[03:58] <usr13> bazzer: I've never seen anything like that as a kernel option.
[03:58] <bazzer> usr13: its 12.04.2 server cd
[03:58] <qwebirc80594> breed: just run 2 vms or more
[03:58] <FLN> where can i go to create my own private channel
[03:59] <SonikkuAmerica> FLN: Just /join it.
[03:59] <usr13> bazzer: Is there a problem with it?
[03:59] <breed> qwebirc80594: vms?  Sorry, linux noob
[03:59] <SonikkuAmerica> FLN: But freenode isn't really for private channels, though...
[04:00] <qwebirc80594> breed: two virtual machine windows
[04:00] <bazzer> usr13: for example i boot it up and press F6 for other options and i see this: file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed vga=788 initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet --
[04:00] <pifan> usr13: and the partitioning will happen by default in the gui install?
[04:00] <bazzer> usr13: no problem :) just curious as to what that -- means/does
[04:01] <SonikkuAmerica> bazzer: The vga argument is deprecated... unless you're still using GRUB Legacy.
[04:01] <usr13> bazzer: That's a cdrom?
[04:01] <bazzer> usr13: 12.04.2 server cd
[04:01] <FLN> cd drive
[04:02] <usr13> bazzer: Oh, well, I don't know. server CD.  Ok, that's different.
[04:02] <FLN> so there is no way to get a private channel
[04:02] <FLN> ?
[04:02] <bazzer> usr13: happens with a desktop live cd too
[04:03] <usr13> bazzer: Ok, well I suppose those are just boot perameters that a LiveCD needs to boot.  (but it doesn't say initrd=initrd.gz like you said).
[04:03] <qin> bazzer: http://superuser.com/questions/441798/what-is-the-significance-of-in-kernel-parameters
[04:03] <bazzer> usr13: google around and you'll see pages with grub examples having -- on the end with no explanation whatsoever as to what it does...other pages don't even have it so obviously one can boot with or without it
[04:04] <usr13> bazzer: It is just specifies the location of the initrd.gz file for use during the boot process.
[04:04] <bazzer> usr13: ya that i know...no stranger to kernels
[04:04] <bazzer> qin thank you! perfect answer
[04:05] <qin> bazzer: not really sure if correct, but I am happy too
[04:05] <usr13> bazzer: initrd  is a scheme for loading a temporary root file system into memory in the boot process of the Linux kernel.
[04:05] <qwebirc80594> well, where can i get the partner list of ubuntu? they remove it from the official website
[04:05] <dr_willis> !partner
[04:06] <bazzer> usr13: i know...built quite a few initrds in the past back in kernel 2.2, 2.4, and 2.6 days
[04:06] <usr13> bazzer: When using a generic kernel image, initrd is needed.
[04:06] <bazzer> qin: no it makes sense...guess google didn't fail me i failed google :)
[04:06] <qwebirc80594> dr_willis: not that partners
[04:06] <usr13> bazzer: Then what is your question.  (I'm sorry, I must have gotten lost in this conversation.)
[04:06] <usr13> bazzer: Then what is your question?  (I'm sorry, I must have gotten lost in this conversation.)
[04:07] <bazzer> usr13: yes i know.... i was just curious as to what the -- at the end of then line meant or did
[04:08] <qin> bazzer: Also just discovered #grub.
[04:08] <bazzer> usr13: according to the link qin found it means it stops the kernel from processing flags and only process parameters such as filenames after that
[04:08] <bazzer> qin: ya but #grub is deathly quiet :)
[04:08] <dr_willis> end of flags.  - thats what it basically does in bash also i recall
[04:08] <usr13> bazzer: Ok, well, I don't know.  Maybe that is it.
[04:09] <usr13> Ok, end of flags it is   ;)
[04:09] <bazzer> dr_willis: yeah end of flags...didn't know...no such animal was around back in the old days or wasn't used whatever the case
[04:09] <dr_willis> i cant even recall eve using that -- syntax in bash
[04:09] <qin> bazzer: quite easy to test it ;)
[04:09] <usr13> qin: What, take -- out and see what happens?
[04:10] <dr_willis>  ls -al -- -al
[04:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:10] <bazzer> qin: aye i KNOW it'll boot without it
[04:10] <usr13> may not do anything.
[04:10] <bazzer> qin: the point i've tried to figure out was what good was it doing :)
[04:10] <qin> bazzer: rather : "-- -splash"
[04:10] <dr_willis> it may just be there as a place holder.
[04:11] <bazzer> ya that's my guess
[04:11] <usr13> if it is at the end of the line, it more-than-likely not make any difference.
[04:11] <bazzer> i generally delete the thing with no mercy when altering parameters
[04:12] <bazzer> yeah it definitely doesn't matter if it is there or not
[04:12] <bazzer> anyway...just some knot i had to untie that distracted me for the last 30 minutes :)
[04:14] <bazzer> well thanks for the info...time to become one with the pillow
[04:16] <qin> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_parameters
[04:17] <qin> --  Boot using systemd instead of SysVinit.
[04:17] <qin> interesting
[04:17] <qin> bazzer?
[04:17] <satyamash> Hi, I downloaded a ubuntu server 12.04.2 i386 iso and used unetbootin to make a bootable pendrive
[04:18] <histo> satyamash: good
[04:18] <satyamash> The check CD integrity test fails, but md5sums of the iso show that it is correctly downloaded
[04:19] <histo> satyamash: You can md5sum the usb drive but you have to use bs and count to get it right to verify
[04:19] <histo> !md5sum | satyamash
[04:20] <histo> satyamash: basically do an ls whatever.iso  and take the blocksize then dd if=/dev/of/usb bs=1 count=blocksizeFromls | md5sum
[04:21] <satyamash> histo: but a simple md5 sum myfile.iso matches the md5sum on the site
[04:22] <histo> satyamash: ahh nvm you used unetbootin not a dd to make the usb.
[04:22] <satyamash> yea
[04:22] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: *buntu ISOs are dd-compatible.
[04:22] <histo> satyamash: if you dd if=some.iso of=/dev/of/usb  then the md5sum of the usb with the proper count would match but unetbootin does something different
[04:22] <satyamash> I have some other data on the disk too, dd would've erased the disk completely
[04:23] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: hybrid isos yes
[04:23] <histo> satyamash: yes
[04:23] <histo> satyamash: what is the issue though? Does the thumb drive boot?
[04:23] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: Most of the images are these days...
[04:23] <satyamash> histo: it boots, but the test CD integrity option says that the net-pcmia....some file is corrupted..
[04:24] <Ari-Yang> hey guys, what does the setting 'texture from pixmap' mean of composite?
[04:24] <betrayd> FLN a typo can make one
[04:24] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: I know
[04:24] <satyamash> Do you mean to say that dd is better than unetbootin..
[04:24] <histo> satyamash: it's a bit for bit copy I thihk unetbootin does some other crafty things like installing syslinux again or grub or whatever.
[04:25] <SonikkuAmerica> satyamash: I would still use Unetbootin...
[04:25] <betrayd> usr13: it just lets the command know that that's the end of the fisrt set of parameters
[04:25] <histo> satyamash: Use unetbootin or startup disk creator from a ubuntu machine if you must
[04:26] <satyamash> ahh okay, i'll give startup disk a try, if it doens work, i'll use dd
[04:26] <satyamash> but I'll have to backup other data on the drive
[04:26] <histo> satyamash: yes dd will just right to the begining of the drive not caring about partitions or filesystems present
[04:27] <satyamash> Will the dd method make the pendrive unbootable on older machines?
[04:28] <histo> satyamash: It shoulnd't as it's a hybrid iso
[04:34] <usr13> betrayd: Tnx info.  Night all....
[04:40] <Tanshin> If anyone has a spare moment to help out a FNG, it'd be lovely.
[04:41] <qin> what's fng? and what's a trouble?
[04:42] <Tanshin> F*cking new guy. The trouble is that I've got a desktop running 12.04, and a wireless card it won't recognize.
[04:43] <Tanshin> The driver package is installed, and it shows up in lspci, but it doesn't appear in Network Connections
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> !language > Tanshin
[04:45] <Tanshin> Excuse me.
[04:46] <Tanshin> Specifically, it's a Broadcom BCM4318, and I have the bcmwl-kernel-source and b43-fwcutter packages installed. I previously had the broadcom-sta-common and broadcom-sta-source packages installed, to no effect.
[04:49] <histo> I thought the 4318 was one with issues but you can check the help from ubottu also search askubuntu for you chipset.
[04:49] <histo> !broadcom | Tanshin
[04:50] <cappicard> heya... what's a decent authenticator app for ios?
[04:50] <satyamash> Hi, the startup disk creator also failed
[04:51] <Tanshin> cappicard, I use 1Passwd. It's pretty handy.
[04:51] <OerHeks> Tanshin, " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer "  & reboot should work
[04:51] <satyamash> it's giving an error on the integrity check for /install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
[04:51] <cappicard> ok... my att.net or gmail got hacked. I received 6-7 password reset emails at the same time tonight
[04:52] <Tanshin> cappicard: I'd recommend taking a long, hard look at your security questions. Remember that passwords in excess of 20 characters are handy, and you can simply use a sentence as your password.
[04:53] <Tanshin> For instance, if I need a new password, "at&t is kind of a thorn in my side to deal with" is really long, easy to remember generally
[04:53] <Tanshin> You don't *need* a password manager, necessarily.
[04:55] <ali4ever4> Tanshin, good idea
[04:56] <histo> cappicard: You can use two factor authentication with gmail
[04:57] <Addle> Tanshin: Perhaps, but I highly recommend a password manager. That way you can have a different password on every site.
[04:57] <OerHeks> getting reset mails, and being able to login, i would say you are not hacked.
[04:58] <histo> The reset emails are probably a hack attempt in itself.
[04:58] <Tanshin> Addle, You can still have a different password on every site. For instance, for Ubuntu.com, I could say, "ubuntu is not what I use for gaming just yet"
[04:59] <Addle> Tanshin: Not with all the sites I have accounts on. lol
[04:59] <Tanshin> lifehacker.com? "I need to be more productive in general"
[04:59] <Tanshin> Addle: Nonetheless, it's a good method if you can't or don't want to use a password manager
[05:00]  * histo is still bothered that google doesn't just ban people for X ammount of time after so many login attempts
[05:00] <Addle> Tanshin: Counted them: 59 entries in KeePassX. Ouch. :)  Yeah, that's not a bad method if you really want to avoid the PW manager.
[05:00] <Tanshin> I think I'd like a hardware key affair, like a... what was it? Mandylion
[05:00] <histo> Addle: two factor auth maybe the way to go for you.
[05:00] <Tanshin> Addle: Yeah, I know what you mean. But I like having ways planned out if I'm ever deprived of my manager.
[05:01] <Addle> histo: I do have it enabled in places. But KeePassX works beautifully, so I'm happy.
[05:02] <Tanshin> ....uh oh.
[05:02] <Tanshin> So I did that and it's showing a not-console screen instead of booting up properly
[05:02] <Tanshin> Wait, it might be... Ah, there it goes.
[05:03] <Tanshin> Aaaaand no card is showing up.
[05:03] <Tanshin> What bugs me is previously, it showed a card and said "Missing firmware"
[05:03] <Tanshin> now it's not even doing that
[05:05] <Tanshin> Going to try completely removing the packages and redoing what he said.
[05:06] <bhavesh> I installed JoliCloud DE beta in Ubuntu 12.04.2 from omgubuntu's post (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/jolicloud-your-new-favourite-ubuntu-de) but its not working as expected. Its half broken. The only thing which works is the browser. How am I supposed to go back to unity? I cannot logout of this DE
[05:07] <tof> quit
[05:07] <bhavesh> I did sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s ubuntu from ctrl + alt + f2 but still it again boots into jolicloud
[05:08] <histo> bhavesh: check your .xinitrc and see what it did there
[05:08] <bhavesh> histo: how? there is no file manager
[05:08] <histo> bhavesh: also make sure it's still using lightdm who knows what jolicloud does
[05:08] <histo> bhavesh: ctrl+alt+F2 and cat ~/.xinitrc
[05:08] <histo> bhavesh: also sudo service lightdm status
[05:10] <histo> bhavesh: on the login screen choose unity as your session
[05:11] <Tanshin> OerHeks, I did what you said. It didn't work, so I uninstalled all Broadcom packages and tried again. It's still not displaying anywhere except lspci. Any other suggestions?
[05:13] <histo> Tanshin: where else are you talking about it displaying?
[05:13] <histo> Tanshin: What version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:14] <Tanshin> histo: 12.04. The device USED to appear in the Network Config menu, with "Firmware missing". It appears in lspci. I don't know where else I would look.
[05:15] <histo> Tanshin: Install firmware then using System Settings > Hardware drivers
[05:15] <Tanshin> histo: You're coming in late... the device no longer appears there.
[05:16] <qwebirc68057> what device?
[05:16] <Tanshin> Derp, hangon
[05:16] <ikk-> my mouse is supended after 10 min , how to wakup it ?
[05:16] <Tanshin> Now that I've cycled the drivers using Modprobe, and then reloaded them the same way, it's appearing in Additional Drivers
[05:17] <bhavesh> histo: cat : home/bhavesh/.xinitrc No such file or directory
[05:17] <histo> Tanshin: the module has to be loaded and then that module needs the firmware
[05:17] <bhavesh> histo: lightdm start/running, process >no here<
[05:17] <histo> bhavesh: At the login screen select unity instead of jolicloud
[05:17] <bhavesh> histo: Also there is no login screen
[05:17] <Tanshin> histo: Too early to tell, but I think between you, me, and OerHeks, it's fixed.
[05:18] <bray90820> Anyone here use mythtv
[05:18] <Tanshin> since it appears in Additional Drivers and says it's downloading and installing the driver
[05:18] <bhavesh> histo: I set it to automatic login while installing ubuntu
[05:18] <histo> bhavesh: well you need to figure out how that auto login with lightdm works and disable it
[05:19] <terayama> l
[05:19] <bhavesh> histo: k, ty :)
[05:19] <histo> bhavesh: I'd assume something in /etc/lightdm
[05:19] <DoYouKnow> hi... all I want to do is install 12.04 32-bit through wubi, but since I'm on a 64-bit laptop it wants to redownload the whole thing
[05:19] <DoYouKnow> I extracted the iso on 32-bit winxp, but it wants to redownload everything
[05:20] <DoYouKnow> I don't need 64-bit ubuntu
[05:20] <Tanshin> Some programs really need an "I dun wanna!" button, yeah?
[05:20] <DoYouKnow> well, at least a somewhat sophisticated CLI
[05:20] <histo> DoYouKnow: Do you need to use wubi?
[05:21] <DoYouKnow> histo: Yeah, I don't know where my USB stick is
[05:21] <DoYouKnow> and I can't go looking for it this late
[05:21] <histo> DoYouKnow: I would highly advise against using wubi as support for it is dropping as of 12.10
[05:21] <bcbc2> DoYouKnow: don't extract the iso. put it in the same folder as wubi.exe before running.
[05:21] <histo> DoYouKnow: But yeah if windows is 64bit then it's going to want 64bit wubi whatever
[05:22] <DoYouKnow> it's not working, bcbc2
[05:22] <DoYouKnow> it keeps trying to redownload files
[05:23] <bcbc2> you said you extracted the iso
[05:23] <DoYouKnow> oh, got it working
[05:23] <DoYouKnow> I couldn't use the 12.04.2 wubi
[05:23] <linux_unix-10> hello!
[05:24] <DoYouKnow> I had to use the 12.04 one
[05:24] <DoYouKnow> thanks, bbl
[05:24] <linux_unix-10> hello!
[05:24] <Tanshin> So its giving me an indefinite loading bar with "Downloading and installing Driver..."
[05:25] <histo> Tanshin: do you have an active internet connection?
[05:26] <Tanshin> yes
[05:27] <histo> Tanshin: is there a details button?
[05:27] <linux_unix-10> Why is it that when I install a new program, it doesn't appear at the Applications Menu/
[05:27] <histo> linux_unix-10: perhaps it's a command line program
[05:27] <Tanshin> not on the little dialog box, let me back out
[05:27] <linux_unix-10> One example is VLC.
[05:28] <Tanshin> histo, there is not a details button
[05:28] <Tanshin> just help, activate, close
[05:29] <histo> Tanshin: which one did you activate? b43 b43-sta ???
[05:29] <Tanshin> sta wireless
[05:30] <linux_unix-10> Why is it that when I install a new program, it doesn't appear where it should be? (Graphical programs included)
[05:30] <satyamash> linux_unix-10: where do you expect it to be?
[05:30] <iam> h
[05:30] <iam> hlkhl
[05:30] <iam> kllk\
[05:30] <iam> nkll;
[05:30] <iam> jkl
[05:31] <linux_unix-10> One example is VLC. I can't find it.
[05:31] <satyamash> linux_unix-10: did you try searching via the unity dash thing?
[05:31] <histo> An-IP-BreAKDoWN: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:32] <dr_willis> tap the super key. type vlc, and it should show up
[05:32] <histo> Tanshin: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[05:32] <linux_unix-10> It finds the program, but its shortcut does not appear in the Applications area.
[05:32] <dr_willis> assuming you are using Unity of course
[05:32] <histo> Tanshin: reboot and use your wifi
[05:32] <histo> Tanshin: actually stop
[05:32] <Tanshin> :I
[05:33] <histo> Tanshin: if you have the 4318 you should be able to just install the firmware and use the b43 driver
[05:33] <Tanshin> I'd like to think so :I
[05:33] <lyrlvlu> I dated a guy named Ubuntu once.
[05:33] <lyrlvlu> He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[05:33] <dr_willis> old troll is old..
[05:33] <linux_unix-10> I'm using Unity
[05:33] <histo> Tanshin: so you should be able to sudo apt-get instlal firmware-b43-installer
[05:34] <Tanshin> ....
[05:34] <lyrlvlu> MY BOYFRIEND UBUNTU PLAYED THE BONGOS ON MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:34] <lyrlvlu> MY BOYFRIEND UBUNTU PLAYED THE BONGOS ON MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:34] <FloodBot1> lyrlvlu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <lyrlvlu> MY BOYFRIEND UBUNTU PLAYED THE BONGOS ON MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:35] <lyrlvlu> MY BOYFRIEND UBUNTU PLAYED THE BONGOS ON MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MY BOYFRIEND UBUNTU PLAYED THE BONGOS ON MY ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:35] <FloodBot1> lyrlvlu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <dr_willis> !caps > lyrlvlu
[05:36] <lyrlvlu> I used to date a guy named Ubuntu once.   I've got my install done and finalized, not gonna add other users. can I remove the /etc/skel files? they are annoying me when I use locate  in the terminal
[05:39] <Tanshin> This isn't a very fresh install.
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tanshin: newcomer, what happened?
[05:39] <histo> Tanshin: so you should be able to sudo apt-get instlal firmware-b43-installer
[05:39] <Tanshin> whatever, I'll try
[05:40] <padhu> Ubuntians, suggest me good folder synchronization application working over LAN
[05:40] <dr_willis> !info  unison
[05:40] <satyamash> padhu: rsync + GUI
[05:40] <qin> padhu: ubuntu one
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> qin: dropbox
[05:41] <qin> ntzrmtthihu777: grive
[05:41] <padhu> qin: It should work over LAN only
[05:41] <qin> padhu: rsync
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> qin: my bad, hit the wrong name XD
[05:41] <satyamash> padhu: rsync + ssh + cron + GUI
[05:41] <Tanshin> histo, package is already installed
[05:41] <dr_willis> netcat + awk!
[05:41] <histo> Tanshin: Okay then connect via wifi using network manager
[05:41] <satyamash> hehe
[05:41] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:41] <padhu> satyamash: any link to howtos please
[05:41] <Tanshin> histo: card does not show in network manager
[05:42] <histo> Tanshin: please pastebin the output of lspci -k
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Tanshin: what card?
[05:43] <satyamash> I don't know a good one, I generally follow the man pages. Others might be able to suggest something useful
[05:43] <Tanshin> Augh... I'm still a noob, how would I pipe the output of that to ~/paste.txt ?
[05:43] <Addle> Tanshin: lspci -k > ~/paste.txt
[05:43] <satyamash> Tanshin: You dont pipe to a file, you redirect to a file with "command > filename"
[05:44] <Tanshin> right, duh. Sorry.
[05:44] <linux_unix-10> how do i add fonts in ubuntu?
[05:44] <Addle> Tanshin: (Note > overwrites and >> appends)
[05:44] <histo> Tanshin: or you can lspci -k | pastebinit
[05:44] <dr_willis> !fonts
[05:44] <satyamash> !rsync > padhu
[05:45] <histo> padhu: there is also grsync
[05:45] <padhu> histro
[05:46] <padhu> histo: okey,....
[05:46] <padhu> thanks Bot.
[05:47] <hammommah> greetings I am having some troule connecting via ssh from outside my local network. I have port 22 forwarded. I am currently running 4 csgo servers and a minecraft server. I can ping my server from outside. I can ssh into server from within my local network no worries. Any suggestions on where to look. When I try to connect from outside I get "No route to host" this is on headless server
[05:47] <histo> hammommah: double NAT possibly?
[05:47] <histo> hammommah: How is the server connected to the internet?
[05:48] <hammommah> server----switch-----modem
[05:48] <linux_unix-10> thanks
[05:48] <hammommah> sorry server---switch---switch---modem/router
[05:49] <Tanshin> histo, pastebin.com/R1rxQ8eL
[05:49] <linux_unix-10> how to download youtube videos in ubuntu?
[05:49] <histo> hammommah: well it needs to be forwarded on the modem and the router
[05:49] <dr_willis> linux_unix-10:  several firefox extensions exist to make that easy
[05:49] <dr_willis> linux_unix-10:  theres some stand alone tools in the repos also
[05:49] <histo> !youtube | linux_unix-10
[05:50] <linux_unix-10> without using a web browser, if possible?
[05:50] <histo> linux_unix-10: there is also youtube-dl in the repos or something similar
[05:50] <hammommah> it is forwarded same way as minecraft and csgo ports are and they work fine?
[05:50] <linux_unix-10> thanks
[05:51] <doomlord> does ubuntu/linux work with displaylink usb monitors these days
[05:51] <histo> Tanshin: try sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe b43
[05:52] <dr_willis> doomlord i recall someone trying them a few months back.. and having issues.. i havent heard them mentioned in  several months.
[05:52] <dr_willis> doomlord - id check on askubuntu.com - see if others have had luck with them in newer releases
[05:52] <histo> Tanshin: or I guess sudo modprobe -r wl ssb && sudo modprobe b43 would be more proper
[05:54] <Tanshin> Okay... it's pondering that
[05:54] <Tanshin> hasn't returned to prompt mode yet
[05:55] <akhilesh> please help
[05:55] <Tanshin> Still nothing. I wish I knew what it was doing.
[05:55] <satyamash> akhilesh: What happened?
[05:55] <akhilesh> how do i install partly downloaded update in 12.04?
[05:56] <satyamash> run the update manager again, it'll download the remaining udates automatically
[05:56] <histo> Tanshin: Did that command finish?
[05:56] <Tanshin> still no
[05:56] <Tanshin> it's still perkolating
[05:56] <histo> Tanshin: We are trying to unload the wl and ssb module and load the b43 which is the right one
[05:56] <Tanshin> Maybe it wants a cup of tea.
[05:56] <histo> Tanshin: It shouldn't take more than a split second.
[05:57] <Tanshin> Why the &&? Why not just run the commands individually?
[05:57] <akhilesh> ok
[05:57] <Tanshin> Well, it's been over a minute
[05:57] <qin> akhilesh: this can help: sudo apt-get install -f
[05:57] <histo> Tanshin: ctrl+c to stop it
[05:57] <histo> Tanshin: and sudo modprobe -r wl ssb
[05:57] <histo> Tanshin: then sudo modprobe b43
[05:57] <histo> Or if you uninstall the sta garbage and just install the firmware-b43-installer package you should be good to go.
[05:58] <histo> Tanshin: if not try searching for your chipset on askubuntu.com
[05:58] <Tanshin> that first command is taking too long
[05:58] <Tanshin> gonna try removing wl and ssb seperately to figure out which one is the pain
[05:58] <histo> Tanshin: sudo modprobe -r wl
[05:59] <Tanshin> it was wl
[05:59] <Tanshin> wl is taking forever, ssb went through right away
[05:59] <histo> Tanshin: sudo apt-get remove broadcom-sta-*
[06:00] <Tanshin> 0 things not removed, 0 things removed
[06:00] <Tanshin> :I
[06:00] <Tanshin> Wat.
[06:01] <Guest42178> hello everyone!
[06:01] <histo> Tanshin: does dpkg -l | grep broadcom  return anything?
[06:02] <histo> Tanshin: I have no idea why you can rmmod the wl driver
[06:02] <histo> Tanshin: but according to everything I see online the opensource b43 driver should work with your chipset using the proper firmware
[06:04] <Tanshin> You know
[06:05] <Tanshin> I'm just gonna rebuild this computer from USB on up with the latest version
[06:05] <Tanshin> and start fresh from there
[06:06] <histo> Tanshin: K this is not something difficult and should just work. I have no idea what you've done already though.  I'm going to smash you with my B& hammer!
[06:08] <Tanshin> Okay... I removed it, but it still shows up with that grep command
[06:08] <night_> hello
[06:11] <hammommah> histo, i ran traceroute from my mates comp and it stops at <IP_ADDRESS>; lns1-c1.bne.acn.visp.iseek.com.au;  ACN is my internet provider, does this mean that they are locking port 22? how could i tes tthis
[06:12] <histo> Tanshin: yeah it will show up rc  which is removed but config files are still there
[06:12] <Tanshin> Yeah, that looks like what it's showing
[06:12] <histo> Tanshin: you should remove all the broadcom stuff and just use b43 witht hat firmware package I suggested
[06:12] <Tanshin> yeah, but it's not working
[06:12] <histo> hammommah: Try using a different port for ssh and see
[06:12] <Tanshin> So I'm going to reformat and start fresh
[06:13] <Tanshin> instead of working on a tower with a year old install that I can't remember what I've done to it
[06:13] <histo> Tanshin: Okay if not I would try searching for your wifi device on askubuntu i'm sure someone else has used it and may have a different suggestion
[06:13] <hammommah> histo, lol great idea dont know why i didnt think of that
[06:15] <histo> hammommah: is yoru modem/router one in the same or two devices?
[06:15] <Tanshin> histo: Thanks for all your efforts, anyway.
[06:15] <histo> tankdriver: np
[06:15] <hammommah> one device
[06:16] <Vivekanand> Hello, I have a question
[06:16] <Vivekanand> A software is installed "SUCCESSFULLY" in a ubuntu 32 server (provider godaddy) but when it is accessed through browser it just doesnt work. The installation file (created during installation in the user's home directory) is not visible now (Application installed as the user and not as root, also it is not a kind of hidden files issue). When we try
[06:16] <Vivekanand>  to install the same software again it says those instalaltion folder already exists. When will this scenario occur ?
[06:17] <histo> hammommah: yeah try a different port just to see if they are blocking 22
[06:17] <histo> hammommah: if not I'd suspect your port forward is screwed up somehow.
[06:17] <histo> Vivekanand: what "software"
[06:19] <Vivekanand> histo: its an help desk software, which has a web interface to access it
[06:20] <hammommah> histo, whats cmd for shh on different port? ssh user@pulicip -p 2222
[06:20] <histo> Vivekanand: Well you'd probably have to talk with whom ever wrote the "helpdesk" software and ask them as you issue has nothing to do with ubuntu
[06:20] <histo> hammommah: ssh -p 2222 user@pulicip
[06:20] <hammommah> histo, ty
[06:20] <Vivekanand> Thanks histo, I'll contact them.
[06:21] <Vivekanand> Btw, have you ever faced this kind of scenario with any other software/application ?
[06:21] <histo> Vivekanand: most likely your issue is though wherever this "software" installed it's pages to is not in the /var/www or wherever apache is set to host up webpages
[06:21] <histo> Vivekanand: probably stuck it in /home/user/public_html or something similar
[06:22] <hammommah> histo, port 2222 worked straight away :)
[06:22] <histo> hammommah: double check your port 22 forward
[06:22] <histo> hammommah: that's very odd that an isp would block 22 . I've seen them block 25 but not 22 before
[06:24] <hammommah> all i did was change value in current port forward from 22 to 2222?
[06:24] <Vivekanand> Actuallly histo: that application has its own bundled tomcat which will be used by starting the application
[06:25] <Vivekanand> The problem happening here is that server startup itself is failing because the application cant "see" the installation directory
[06:26] <Vivekanand> but when tried to install the same thing in same place again, it says files already exists
[06:26] <Vivekanand> thats what is confusing me
[06:26] <jony> I want a job to work from home
[06:27] <Vivekanand> I've ruled out the permission issue as the installation was done as normal user and not root user
[06:29] <hammommah> histo, check this out, http://pastebin.com/iQLzJWRz    oth port 22 and 2222 oth get reached? hmmmm this means my server is not listening on port 22?
[06:30] <qin> hammommah: sudo netstat -tulp (so you will know what listens and where)
[06:30] <histo> hammommah: ss -ant on the server and see if it's listening on 22 or 2222
[06:30] <Baconator> IntelliJ not in offical repos?
[06:31] <Baconator> ?
[06:32] <Fuzzles> whats ppls views on 13.04?
[06:33] <qin> 13.04 is still #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <hammommah> its listening on port 2222 now, i'll change back and see what is says. here is output for 2222 setup
[06:34] <hammommah> http://pastebin.com/C8jTRtqA
[06:36] <qin> hammommah: is it just testing machine, not any mission critical box?
[06:37] <hammommah> histo, this is weird when i change port to 22 in /etc/ssh/ssh_config and sshd_config it seems ssh is listening on port 0???? http://pastebin.com/66ajQKSp
[06:37] <hammommah> what could e causing that?
[06:40] <hammommah> qin, its a headless server currently running minecraft, csgo and local media server, plus local dns and mail server
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: according to that pastebin, i see it listening on 22
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> tcp  0  0 *:ssh   *:*   LISTEN   15686/sshd
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> *:ssh means port 22
[06:42] <ThatOneRoadie> and 15686/sshd is the ssh daemon
[06:43] <hammommah> ahhhh ok, then why do i get no route to host when using 22 and works fine when i use port 2222? whats different
[06:43] <ThatOneRoadie> use netstat -tulpn to confirm (the -n flag doesn't resolve port numbers to processes)
[06:44] <ThatOneRoadie> if port 2222 works, but port 22 does not, then check three things:
[06:44] <ThatOneRoadie> 1) Your router's port forwarding (Consult router manual, and make sure the router itself isn't hogging external port 22)
[06:44] <SocialEvil> guys the new internet is going to be installed home, but the cable guy said that the mac address is "already taken" by some guy in another city and he cant connect me. any idea how can my mac address be the same like the mac address from another city ?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: That doesn't even conceptually make sense, unless the problem is with the MAC address of their own equiptment.
[06:45] <ThatOneRoadie> 2) iptables (sudo iptables -L, and look for something like chain INCOMING \n DROP ssh -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:ssh
[06:45] <ThatOneRoadie> )
[06:46] <ThatOneRoadie> Social: It's entirely their problem. Tell him to fix it.
[06:46] <hammommah> router is setup correctly as all i do is change 22 to 2222, remote management is disaled in case this uses port 22.
[06:46] <ThatOneRoadie> If their modems have doplicate mac addresses, they need to fix it.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> m
[06:46] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: so, if someone external to your network connects to port 22, the connection drops, yes?
[06:47] <mattnie> SocialEvil: I have thought the MAC Adress is only valid localy???
[06:48] <hammommah> yep i get "no route to host" ut a tracepath on 22 shows it finds my ext ip add
[06:48] <ThatOneRoadie> mattnie: MAC addresses are (supposedly) unique IDs assigned to networking devices. In theory, a single unique MAC belongs to a single networking device (Be it a networking card, wireless card, or cable modem)
[06:48] <qin> SocialEvil: If it is MAC code, you need to get it from your piervious provider...
[06:49] <ThatOneRoadie> To summarize an entire section of most networking certifications, IP address is an address that tells some other computer how to talk to it (like a phone number); MAC Address is how to GET to it (like a house address)
[06:49] <hammommah> my iptables has nothing in it ar the standard chain input (policy accept) and same for forward and output
[06:50] <mattnie> ThatOneRoadie: I know that! But is it normaly that the macadress is used for anything on the internet?
[06:51] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U mattnie qin thank you guys
[06:51] <linux_unix-10> how do i add fonts in ubuntu?
[06:51] <ThatOneRoadie> mattnie: the way you're thinking, no; Cable companies assign Public IP addresses to their coaxial cable modems by MAC address. If the MAC is invalid (unsupported modem or possible theft of product) or duplicated (Possibly trying to, again, steal service)
[06:51] <ThatOneRoadie> then no IP is assigned
[06:51] <Jordan_U> !fonts | linux_unix-10
[06:51] <Nmbr1> mattnie: mac addresses are used by routers to build things called ARP tables. this associates mac addresses with ip addresses and among a number of other things ensures that traffic is routed to the correct address, because whereas DNS translates IPs to hostnames (and vice versa) packets are routed by routers and managed switches by mac address
[06:51] <linux_unix-10> how do i add font files (.ttf) in ubuntu ?
[06:52] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: the only other thing I can think of is that your ISP blocks port 22 for some reason. Who is your ISP?
[06:52] <Guest9680> i say hallo to all
[06:52] <hammommah> ThatOneRoadie,  i have it set to 22 atm when i try to connect using port 22 i get "no route to host" if i try port 2222(with server still listening on 22) i get connection refused.
[06:52] <hammommah> ACN
[06:52] <ThatOneRoadie> Ooh, connection refused. That screams "My port forwarding is wrong"
[06:53] <ThatOneRoadie> which is good
[06:53] <ThatOneRoadie> if it's listening on 22, it should deny 2222
[06:53] <mattnie> ThatOneRoadie, Nmbr1: thanks for your explanation! :)
[06:53] <Nmbr1> no problem!
[06:54] <hammommah> if i do a tracepath -p 22 210.xx.xx.xxx i get 17 steps ut end with         17:  210.xx.xx.xxx                                         6.595ms reached
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> Not a problem :)
[06:54] <hammommah> so its finding it
[06:54] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: http://www.acninc.com/acn/us/index.html This ACN?
[06:55] <hammommah> http://www.acnpacific.com.au/
[06:55] <ThatOneRoadie> aha
[06:56] <hammommah> i spoke with the tech support and they cliam they dont lock any port?
[06:56] <x5ives> In lubuntu, on running Synaptic Package Manager I get an errors: http://pastebin.com/HPqZ8zv8, this happened after reloading package information.
[06:57] <Baconator> How can i make my virtual desktops all in one line instead of a grid?
[06:57] <Baconator> So I can just do ctrl alt left and right
[06:57] <Baconator> no up and downs
[06:57] <qin> hammommah: since your 2222 allowed conection and now refusing, it is most likely firewall, either box or router.
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> qin: He's saying that port 2222 sees connection refused when not listening, whereas 22 shows no route
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> which makes me think the router is hogging the port
[06:58] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: Did they send you a Netgear, netcomm, or D-Link router?
[06:59] <ThatOneRoadie> If they claim they don't block ports, they're pretty much held to that
[06:59] <hammommah> qin, no no 2222 still works when i set sshd to listen on port 2222, i just changed it ack to 22 to check diffence in netstat -tulpn
[06:59] <hammommah> netgear dgn2200
[07:00] <Nmbr1> hammommah: easy check, plug the ssh server box into the lan port of the router. login to the router and set port forwarding for Incoming TCP 2222 forward to ip of your ssh server on TCP 22. open putty with a proxy like tor and try to ssh into the box.
[07:01] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U about the mac.. they said. when they write "ifconfig" that the mac adress they see is already in their system, added for a guy in other city.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: When they write ifconfig where? On their own equiptment?
[07:02] <SocialEvil> on my computer
[07:02] <qin> SocialEvil: you really need new ISP.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: So there is a person at your house right now, working with your computer?
[07:02] <SocialEvil> yes
[07:02] <SocialEvil> to both of you :D
[07:02] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: Make sure the "Blocked Services" page is blank (some come pre-loaded), and then check the UPNP page and make sure it's not being forwarded there.
[07:03] <ThatOneRoadie> Otherwise, double-check your port forwarding settings; make sure you have port 22 forwarded (both TCP and UDP) to the right address
[07:04] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Ask them why two MAC addresses being the same on different networks matters at all.
[07:04] <ThatOneRoadie> Nmbr1: the dgn2200 (and really, most netgear routers) do port forwardning, but not port mapping.
[07:04] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U what do you mean different networks ?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Note that you can change your MAC address, even through the network manager GUI, but it shouldn't matter.
[07:05] <hammommah> what if i turn it to modem only mode? there is no blocked services ta only blocked sites and its empty
[07:05] <ThatOneRoadie> don't do that; Modem only mode shuts off NAT and routing
[07:05] <hammommah> not mentioned in upnp
[07:06] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Is the modem/router they're using configured to do NAT?
[07:07] <hammommah> Nmbr1, cant plug server straight into modem/router as server is in grannyflat 30m away
[07:07] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U i have no idea.. actually i am in germany, they are in bulgaria.. and my mother is dealing with them.. and she dond understand a thing .. she only knows how to turn it on and go to her mail :D
[07:07] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U even tho i can change my mac.. to what should i change it ?:D
[07:07] <qin> SocialEvil: Are you using BE?
[07:07] <SocialEvil> BE? i guess not
[07:08] <ThatOneRoadie> SocialEvil: if they're whining about the MAC of something in the next town over, then it's their problem. Tell him to get you a modem with a different MAC
[07:08] <qin> SocialEvil: They may brag about Migration Authorisation Code
[07:08] <SocialEvil> ThatOneRoadie they didnt even changed the net .. its still the old isp now
[07:09] <SocialEvil> qin i have no idea what that is :) and where to get it
[07:09] <hammommah> i just dont know why port 2222 works fine ut 22 doesnt when there setup exactly the same must just leave it on port 2222 and e done with it
[07:10] <qin> SocialEvil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_Authorisation_Code, some other countries have similar feature
[07:11] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: the only thing I can think of is either the ISP is lying and they do block incoming port 22, or the router for some reason is hogging port 22 for its own ssh and won't give it up.
[07:12] <hammommah> true that, i even setup remote management to random port just incase it uses 22 for this, but it didnt help
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> I had a router once that refused to give up port 80
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> ever
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> it wouldn't port foward it because it was being used for the remote management page, and even after I changed the remote management page to 8080, it still refused to forward it.
[07:13] <ThatOneRoadie> that router went straight in the bin
[07:13] <hammommah> pretty crap to hog port 22 yet along 80 lol
[07:14] <SocialEvil> qin, no. they said they need the one with xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[07:14] <qin> hammommah: did you test localhost:22 and localhost:2222 (if you sitting by the box)
[07:14] <qin> SocialEvil: very strange...
[07:15] <SocialEvil> bulgaria.. :D its fun there
[07:15] <dinesh_> hello everybody
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> qin: i've had it happen before where my cable service was cut off because someone else connected a (cable company provided) cable modem with the same MAC address
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> their system was set up so that, in the event of MAC address conflict, neither system got issued a public IP address
[07:15] <hammommah> localhost:22: command not found
[07:15] <ThatOneRoadie> (to prevent routing issues)
[07:16] <ThatOneRoadie> hammommah: ssh localhost:22 from the server box
[07:16] <verchan> when is the next ubuntu being released?
[07:16] <ThatOneRoadie> verchan: when it gets released
[07:16] <hammommah> ssh: Could not resolve hostname localhost:22: Name or service not known............ might e prolem with my dns server?
[07:16] <qin> hammommah: ssh localhost; ssh localhost -p 2222
[07:17] <qin> hammommah: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:17] <qin> hammommah: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:17] <SocialEvil> i dont get it. why are there two same mac addresses. cant they just disconnect from my old net, put their modem or what have you and voila.. internet :Dits all so complicated
[07:17] <ThatOneRoadie> !releases | verchan
[07:17] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: You can generate a random MAC address with this command: openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//'
[07:17] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Though this is all still absurd.
[07:17] <hammommah> ssh <IP_ADDRESS> works
[07:17] <hammommah> n
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> hmm
[07:18] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U will this address be there when reboot the pc ?
[07:18] <ThatOneRoadie> so the server actually IS listening. It's either the router or the ISP
[07:18] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: If you configure it via network manager, yes.
[07:18] <hammommah> ssh <IP_ADDRESS> works
[07:19] <hammommah> damn frustrating, i will just use port 2222 and e done with it
[07:19] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U that sounds like a "hack" to do something that should be "there" by default
[07:19] <hammommah> it works at least, tyvm for all your help :)
[07:19] <SocialEvil> as you said.. its absurd
[07:19] <qin> change /etc/ssh/sshd_config to port 2222, reload ssh, and test on port 2222...
[07:19] <ThatOneRoadie> np hammommah :) always happy to help
[07:19] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: The MAC address comes with the hardware, and hardware manufacturers are required to ensure that they are unique.
[07:20] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U is it possible the other person spoofed it ?
[07:21] <x5ives> Sorry, got disconnected before, not sure if you replied to my message. In lubuntu on launching Synaptic Package Manager I get errors: http://pastebin.com/HPqZ8zv8, this happened after reloading package info.
[07:21] <ThatOneRoadie> qin: worth noting, the entire <IP_ADDRESS>/8 block is loopback. Great job ARIN for dumping 16 million ip addresses into loopback
[07:22] <qin> ThatOneRoadie: haha, just curious, that's wrong with his ssh...
[07:23] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Yes, especially if all of their customers really are on the same network segment and can just do an ARP request on to find the MAC address that corresponds to any ip. If that really is what's happening though, then make sure that your mother never gets a Windows machine and never allows friends to connect to her internet connection (which will already be hard). Or have her buy a router.
[07:23] <hammommah> qin, done that and it works fine :) ty for help
[07:24] <x5ives> I'll check in #lubuntu.
[07:24] <hammommah> qin, I was trying to find out why 22 does not work, ut i'll just stick with 2222
[07:25] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: But really, an ISP having all their customers, including ones from other cities, on the same network segment with no router between their computer and this segment is just absurd. I'm not sure it's even possible, but if it is then your mom's machine is basically in a DMZ, and with a hostile local network to boot.
[07:25] <verchan> Jordan_U: that's how all cable internet used to be
[07:25] <qin> SocialEvil: Who is you
[07:26] <verchan> but that was like ~10 years ago
[07:26] <qin> SocialEvil: Who is your network provider?
[07:26] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U the new isp is satelite tv with internet .. i dont have any idea how are they installing the net
[07:27] <Jordan_U> verchan: I was still on dialup 10 years ago :)
[07:27] <SocialEvil> qin bulsat.com but i dont know if their site have language support..
[07:28] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Tell your mom to buy a router, ditch this ISP, or both. You don't want her machine publicly accessible like that.
[07:29] <levolent> hi can someone please help me diagnose an issue with my system?
[07:29] <ThatOneRoadie> !help | levolent
[07:29] <verchan> Jordan_U: LOL!
[07:29] <verchan> my machine is publicly accessible like that
[07:29] <x5ives> #lubuntu is very quiet, can anyone here help me?
[07:29] <verchan> but i run ubuntu
[07:29] <verchan> so it's cool
[07:29] <levolent> I have twice now got the wifi working only to have everything revert after shutdown... how do you make stuff STICK and not vanish like this?
[07:29] <Jordan_U> SocialEvil: Buying a router should also solve the MAC address collision issue, incidentally.
[07:30] <SocialEvil> Jordan_U i see.
[07:30] <levolent> my goal is to take this laptop on the road someday and i dont want to end up with no wifi somewhere
[07:30] <x5ives> Or at least redirect me?
[07:30] <ThatOneRoadie> levolent: adapter configurations are stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:31] <levolent> any idea why my settings aren't sticking after reboot?
[07:31] <levolent> I'm a windows user so im used to driver changes being written to the hard drive and not getting reverted/erased until commanded to do so
[07:31] <dr_willis> my wifi settings are rembered here..
[07:32] <ThatOneRoadie> same here
[07:32] <dr_willis> levolent:  double check your users home, make sure theres no config files accidently owned by root
[07:32] <TakeItEZ> and here
[07:32] <levolent> its not a wifi setting persay
[07:32] <levolent> im not talking about saving SSID passwords
[07:32] <levolent> I'm talking about I reboot and then I have NO SSID shown like no wifi adapter at all
[07:32] <TakeItEZ> levolent: _what_ settings are being "reverted" exactly? what did you do, what do you need to do again?
[07:33] <levolent> it reverts to before i did a jillion firmware related things to get wifi going
[07:33] <x5ives> Maybe you wanted my paste on http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597704/.
[07:34] <dr_willis> levolent:  this is a normal install? a wubi install? a live persistnat install?
[07:34] <levolent> ubuntu 12.04 updated to .10
[07:34] <levolent> dell inspiron 1721 with broadcom b43 card
[07:35] <levolent> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[07:35] <dr_willis> so basically you are saying after a reboot. the broadcomn card fails to work untill you do 'somthing' ?
[07:35] <starbuck> hi, i have a problem, avery now and then thw whole desktop freezes, the mouse is still moving, the cpu load is normal, but the whole crappy unity desktop is not responding anymore... how can i fix this? i always have to logout with CTRL+ALT+del and login again, then it will work for another while, could be hours, could be days
[07:35] <levolent> give me a moment and ill upload my command history to pastebin
[07:35] <x5ives> Did you install it using the Wubi installer or from a disk?
[07:35] <levolent> is there an easy way to dump logs from terminal? otherwise i gotta hit up arrow and highlight rightclickcopy each time
[07:35] <x5ives> @levolent
[07:36] <Jordan_U> levolent: "history"
[07:36] <dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[07:36] <levolent> jordan_u nice!
[07:36] <dr_willis> bash fundamentals
[07:36] <x5ives> Can anyone give me any info on my Synaptic errors?
[07:36] <TakeItEZ> don't paste your full history, just the relevant parts
[07:36] <nugroho> JPL749250
[07:36] <nugroho> APB800779
[07:36] <levolent> its a fresh install mostly so only 50 lines
[07:37] <levolent> i can highlight the things from this last session?
[07:37] <levolent> usually better to paste too much than not enough
[07:37] <x5ives> Test: are my messages even getting received?
[07:37] <x5ives> Hello?
[07:38] <TakeItEZ> x5ives: they are
[07:38] <nugroho> ubuntu linux is soo great work with any device or computer
[07:39] <x5ives> Oh, well, then can anyone help or redirect me? In lubuntu on launching Synaptic Package Manager I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597704/, this happened after reloading package info. If it helps I just installed lubuntu without an internet connection.
[07:39] <levolent> k i dont see a highlight option so just know that lines 62-71 successfully got the wifi going until power loss. The rest were from over a week prior but did include another guy logging in and getting the same results... wifi worked until power loss.
[07:39] <levolent> http://pastebin.com/RDA3TRcu
[07:40] <levolent> line 62-71 most important
[07:40] <levolent> or 62-73 if you go by pastebins numbering
[07:41] <TakeItEZ> levolent: blacklist those modules shown in the "modprobe -r ..." line, add "b43" to /etc/modules
[07:41] <TakeItEZ> !blacklist
[07:42] <levolent> k that looks a little hard but i can probably do it give me a few
[07:42] <Addle> x5ives: I believe you'll have to remove the files that are broken
[07:42] <Addle> x5ives: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[07:42] <Addle> x5ives: Then: sudo apt-get update
[07:42] <levolent> libreoffice writer good text editor for this?
[07:42] <Addle> x5ives: Or move them somewhere if you want to play it safe.
[07:43] <TakeItEZ> levolent: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[07:43] <levolent> ?
[07:43] <levolent> i thought im supposed to be editing a file to add blacklist lines
[07:43] <TakeItEZ> levolent: yes. but not using a wordprocessor, just an editor
[07:43] <qin> levolent: nano is text editor
[07:44] <x5ives> Addle: too late.
[07:44] <levolent> and the sudo prefix just tells it i have SU access in case its a protected file?
[07:44] <Addle> x5ives: It's ok, the rm should be fine. :)
[07:45] <TakeItEZ> levolent: you need root-permission to alter that file, so oyu have to use sudo. correct
[07:45] <dr_willis> levolent:  its a system file.. so you n eed sudo rights'
[07:45] <smOBudda> anyone here use proxmox?
[07:45] <levolent> k just a moment
[07:47] <levolent> k i think i did it i added the following lines to that file
[07:47] <levolent> blacklist b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[07:47] <levolent> blacklist b43 wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[07:48] <TakeItEZ> levolent: one line for one module, do not blacklist b43
[07:49] <nugroho> linux ubuntu use the best filesystem like ext3
[07:50] <bazhang> !ot | nugroho
[07:50] <levolent> takeitez sorry im a little confused. theres 3 lines in my history with modprobe... i added 2 of them that i just told you about. Are you just making sure I don't also add a line that says "blacklist b43"? if so we're good as I did not do that
[07:51] <levolent> by the way the reason for those  2 lines is the first i was told then it gave error. when i told helper of error he had me remove SSB then it worked.
[07:51] <TakeItEZ> levolent: you have to add 5 lines: blacklist ssb, blacklist wl, blackist brcmfmac,blacklist brcmsmac,blacklist bcma
[07:51] <levolent> k got it
[07:52] <nugroho> linux only know EXT filesystem ussually ext2 or ext3
[07:52] <bazhang> nugroho, please stop
[07:52] <dr_willis> nugroho:  you really dont know what you are talking about.. and its just rambling.. please stop
[07:52] <levolent> alright so now save and close that right? then you said I need to open another file "/etc/modules" and add something there too ?
[07:53] <bazhang> nugroho, this is NOT The chat channel, and you are saying is false
[07:53] <TakeItEZ> levolent: just add "b43" to that file
[07:53] <levolent> writeout = save ?
[07:53] <levolent> or will it ask if i exit?
[07:53] <TakeItEZ> ctrl-x "yes"
[07:54] <user242432> Using LXDE desktop Ubuntu 12.04.   Audio is terrible on Fujitsu lifebook.  Any ideas how to fix?  Worked fine in Fedora 15.  Should I upgrade to pulseaudio?  If so, what's the pulse suite I should install ?
[07:54] <levolent> k done, shall i reboot?
[07:55] <TakeItEZ> levolent: try it
[07:55] <levolent> pull ethernet while it reboots and wifi will hopefully work? or is there more
[07:56] <levolent> if you meant try the wifi.. its not working
[07:56] <dr_willis> you shouldnet need to pull ethernet
[07:56] <dr_willis> user242432:  i think lxde uses pulseaudio
[07:56] <levolent> anyways... ill just find out on my own.. brb
[07:57] <user242432> dr_willis..not here.  I used the mini net installer. Only alsa.  What's the pulse suite so i can apt-get?
[07:57] <dr_willis> use the package manager and search. i dont memorize those things
[07:57] <dr_willis> or do a apt-get install  xubuntu-desktop and it should pull it all in
[07:58] <nugroho> javanese know about - tapak willis - but ubuntu linux able to display the performance
[07:58] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop I think you mean
[08:00] <levolent2> k we're on wifi! thanks takeitez ... it remains to be seen if this undos itself in a few days as happened twice before though.  Come to think of it this last time it was plugged in with full battery the whole time too, and an initial reboot didn't make it revert at first cause I was testing for that.
[08:00] <TakeItEZ> levolent: it won't "undo itself" until you tell it to do
[08:00] <levolent2> well I broke the universe twice before I guess then
[08:00] <levolent2> divided by zero n shit
[08:01] <dr_willis> time to brush up on linux basics i think..
[08:01] <levolent2> more like its time for linux distro writers to brush up on the basics of the world
[08:01] <levolent2> why should I have to go through all this to get wifi on a common card, on a common laptop?
[08:01] <TakeItEZ> stop ranting
[08:02] <dr_willis> because the hardware makers are NOT supporting linux the way they should be...
[08:02] <levolent2> i was merely responding to dr_willis and his little jibe at me like this is somehow my fault.
[08:02] <bazhang> levolent2, lets move on
[08:02] <levolent2> yep...
[08:02] <bazhang> !guidelines > levolent2
[08:02] <levolent2> hopefully it doesn't revert like twice before without my input
[08:02]  * levolent2 crosses fingers
[08:03] <dr_willis> we have to wonder what you did exactly befor,  so we can answer that.. if you did not blacklist the modules in those files. it would last tillthe next reboot.
[08:03] <sergio>  /join #cameronandwilding biscuits
[08:03] <levolent2> manual SSID. no password change. Still sitting on top of the router and plugged in power? Must be time to stop the wifi from working at all!
[08:05] <levolent2> I guess I just needed to know some more linux basics to prevent those random changes while I wasn't even using the computer.
[08:06] <levolent2> so takeitez would you mind explaining what we just did, and why it was necessary to prevent the firmware/driver from not working properly?
[08:06] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: did oyu blacklist the modules before?
[08:06] <levolent2> no I wasn't asked to and the wifi funcctioned flawless until 2 days later
[08:07] <levolent2> just tested it and did nothing else
[08:07] <TakeItEZ> you*
[08:07] <levolent2> I'm actually just running this alongside some other hardware to help heat my room :)
[08:07] <levolent2> on that note, are there any CPU burnin or benchmarking utiluties for linux?
[08:08] <bazhang> apt-cache search term levolent2
[08:08] <levolent2> looking for something like prime95 but not as intense or 3dmark
[08:08] <bazhang> !equivalents > levolent2
[08:09] <Lartza> levolent2, mprime, linpack, systester
[08:09] <levolent2> thanks bazhang bookmarking now
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: so like dr_willis said, if oyu didn#t blacklist those modules before, the change you made work until next reboot. today we "told the system" not to use the (not working) modules it would use by default by blacklisting them
[08:09] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: then we told the system explicitly to load "b43" (by adding it to /etc/modules/)
[08:10] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: those changes will persist any reboot
[08:10] <levolent2> is there anything I can do to make future installs of ubuntu function better? I am open to slipstreaming (windows term) the install disc with common wifi drivers and firmware.
[08:10] <Lartza> levolent2, And globs for GPU instead of 3dmark
[08:10] <bazhang> !remaster | levolent2
[08:11] <levolent2> thanks lartza I will probably just do a cpu test because this gpu is already fraglile. Will check out mprime first.
[08:11] <Lartza> :)
[08:11] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: hint for the future: buy supported hardware, check before buying
[08:11] <levolent2> in my business I come into a lot of hardware so nothing will be pre-matched lke that.
[08:11] <levolent2> just know that i will someday want linux on a random used laptop
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: until hardware makers increase linux support, you never will be sure if your hardware will work
[08:13] <TakeItEZ> and they won't
[08:14] <levolent2> i see. well at least good people like here are available to help. I definitely won't know the exact commands on my own completely just a general idea unless i run into another b43
[08:14] <Shizyo16> hello , Runtime error opening '/home/lelouch/VirtualBox VMs/XP/XP.vbox' for reading: -102 (File not found.).
[08:14] <TakeItEZ> "they" = the makers
[08:14] <Lartza> Shizyo16, Does the file /home/lelouch/VirtualBox VMs/XP/XP.vbox exist?...
[08:14] <levolent2> it really does seem like something that could be automated and included but i guess thats all just over my head.
[08:15] <dr_willis> broadcom makes a large varity of chipsets. often called by the same/similer names..
[08:15] <bazhang> Shizyo16, try #vbox as well
[08:15] <bazhang> levolent2, lets take the chit chat to appropriate channel Please
[08:15] <Shizyo16> can't find it after update
[08:15] <levolent2> where's good?
[08:15] <dr_willis> thats why theres like differnnt drivers for the 'same' chipset
[08:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-discuss
[08:16] <levolent2> #ubuntuchat and #ubunturant are both empty :( anyone care to join?
[08:16] <bazhang> levolent2, since those are not real channels, no
[08:16] <levolent2> someone joined me in 1 :) ok later and thanks again guys
[08:18] <Shizyo16> Lartza: was working well until update can't find anything even the path
[08:18] <Shizyo16> bazhang: Want work also
[08:19] <levolent2> is there a way to access a repository with common apps? I tried sudo apt-get install mprime and not found.
[08:20] <dr_willis> !find mprime
[08:20] <MrDecent> I need help to fix my monodevelop environment. Firstly it worked perfect. Then one time when I tried to move a folder in my solution project, the IDE frooze and I forced to exit the process. After that some settings internally in Monodevlop is broken, which make me unable to edit folder names, add new files to project, commit and add files into GIT etc. How do I fix that? I tried to just do a reinstall, but that didnt work unfortun
[08:20] <MrDecent> atly.
[08:20] <Lartza> levolent2, There could also be a targz you can just extract and run on mprime/prime95 page
[08:21] <levolent2> yea i haven't checked online yet thought if i could apt-get something it'd be faster
[08:21] <smOBudda> anyone framiliar with proxmox
[08:21] <TakeItEZ> levolent2:apt-cache search pattern              to search for packages in the repos
[08:23] <MrDecent> Is there any option in apt/debian where I could ONLY purge a softwares settings and install new default ones, or just go back to clean install settings somehow?
[08:23] <bazhang> MrDecent, purge ppa?
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> MrDecent  or look in ~/.config
[08:24] <MrDecent> bazhang:  What you mean by purge ppa? Remove the entire repo?
[08:24] <levolent2> thanks takeitez that seems to query a standard repo.. anyway to add a 3rd party repo for apt-get installing?
[08:24] <dr_willis> MrDecent:  a few packages have their settings in a seperate package. but not a lot.
[08:24] <bazhang> !ppa-purge > MrDecent
[08:24] <dr_willis> !ppa | levolent2
[08:24] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  You happen to know where Monodevelop put their settings?
[08:25] <MonkeyDust> MrDecent  what program is it?
[08:25] <MrDecent> MonkeyDust:  Thanks will do :)
[08:25] <franco> Secure boot / UEFI issue? - http://pastebin.com/6333yQZn
[08:25] <dr_willis> if its an app the user runs.. it would be in the users home.. unless you mean system wide configs.. you can check the pacckage details for what files it has where
[08:25] <MrDecent> MonkeyDust:  Monodevelop
[08:26] <starbuck> does anybody have a problem connecting to facebook chat via pidgin? i cant see any contacts online but when i log in vie the webbrowser there are definetely contacts online
[08:26] <gigas> franco: try setting an admin password in the bios and disabling secure boot
[08:27] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  How do I check package detailed settings?
[08:27] <dr_willis> MrDecent:  i just use synaptic to see them normally
[08:28] <gigas> MrDecent: the aptitude command (not apt-get) gives more info as well
[08:29] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  Alright :) Well I thought, when I did sudo apt-get install --reinstall monodevelop it should purge settings as well, before install it again. But it seems all config files was left behind anyway. I want to remove them.
[08:29] <dr_willis> MrDecent:  if you are refering to settings in the USERS home.. it will NOT.
[08:29] <MrDecent> gigas:  Then I need to install aptitude ... :P COuldnt dpkg get me info? :D
[08:29] <smOBudda> anyone use proxmox with ubuntu
[08:30] <gigas> MrDecent: "The primary and more user-friendly front-end for dpkg  is  aptitude(1)"
[08:30] <TakeItEZ> !aptitude
[08:31] <MrDecent> I know what aptitude is, but I usually do not like it :P
[08:31] <gigas> it gives handy information sometimes
[08:32] <bazhang> gigas, there are issues with aptitiude, see above
[08:32] <gigas> i normally use it to find what repo a package is in, or to check installation status
[08:32] <bazhang> gigas, it may be primary in debain, it's NOT in ubuntu
[08:33] <gigas> aye, i got used to it in older releases of ubuntu
[08:33] <MrDecent> ANyway, I found ~/.config/Monodevelop3.0 but there is some strange application config files I cannot edit :S
[08:33] <TakeItEZ> gigas: it still works fine on 32bit, but has issues on 64bit/multiarch
[08:34] <MrDecent> Would it be safe to remove them?
[08:34] <gigas> fair enough
[08:34] <dr_willis> MrDecent:  rename them perhaps?
[08:34] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  Yeah good idea, will try that ;)
[08:36] <zaf_> Jest tutaj ktoś z Polski?
[08:36] <TakeItEZ> !pl
[08:38] <jony> I need a pdf splitter for ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[08:38] <levolent2> !addppa
[08:39] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  Hmm, didnt work. Seem to be some other problem.
[08:40] <dr_willis> MrDecent:  what is it doing exactly?
[08:41] <bazhang> jony, apt-cache search pdf and have a look
[08:42] <MrDecent> dr_willis:  The problem I have mostly in monodevlop is when rename files, add new files etc. I always get a weird NullPointerException FROM the monodevlop internally. Now I need to manually add folders and files into project, then add them later into the project in monodevelop. It slow my programming progress a lot.
[08:42] <talpur> hi comunity...I want to write simple shel script please see the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5597801/ and help me
[08:42] <MonkeyDust> jony  pdf-shuffler
[08:44] <TakeItEZ> talpur: homework? i don't think your teacher expected _us_ to do it
[08:45] <nitin__> hello everyone
[08:45] <nitin__> how can we use whatsapp in ubuntu12.10
[08:46] <nitin__> ?
[08:46] <bazhang> nitin__, whats that
[08:46] <bazhang> !info whatsapp
[08:46] <chenwj> bazhang: IM
[08:46] <gigas> nitin__: install an android emulator, most likely
[08:47] <chenwj> kind of like skype
[08:47] <nitin__> gigas,  i tried
[08:47] <nitin__> but not successdul
[08:47] <TakeItEZ> nitin__: whatsapp needs a phone-number to work, bad luck on pc
[08:47] <gigas> nitin__: found a link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211700/how-to-use-whatsapp-mobile-application-in-ubuntu-linux
[08:47] <nitin__> gigas,  wl check
[08:49] <talpur> TakeItEZ: not ho,e work, I am trying to run binary file with Intel Pin TOOL it is written in Manual that use like this I modify the tool but now couldn't undertand the how to make this shell script
[08:49] <chenwj> talpur: open your favor editor
[08:50] <nexussix> hi all
[08:50] <talpur> may be gedit
[08:50] <gigas> nitin__: looks like it might not be possible at the moment
[08:50] <chenwj> and with "#!/bin/sh" at the beginning
[08:50] <nexussix> so I am having an odd issue. My machines been hard locking up. I thought perhaps nvidia driver, so I disabled X from starting by default.
[08:50] <nexussix>  rebooted, but the machine locked up again. This time, turning on the monitor revealed this output which I had to take a photo of:
[08:50] <chenwj> talpur: then write down your pin cmdline
[08:50] <nitin__> gigas,  yes
[08:50] <nexussix> http://imgur.com/wreNHys
[08:51] <nitin__> there is no solution for that
[08:51] <nexussix>  I've never seen this before! anyone got any ideas?
[08:51] <nitin__> gigas,  will it work in emulator
[08:51] <nitin__> ?
[08:52] <gigas> nitin__: like TakeItEZ said, whatsapp needs a phone number. don't think it's possible to emulate
[08:55] <talpur> chenwj: what should I give the name & extension to this file .....One more thing should I write the full path for command
[08:55] <levolent2> bazhang still around?
[08:55] <TakeItEZ> nitin__: there are some whatsapp-clients in development, but none of those work atm (afaik). and even if they will run, they won't allow dual-use, so you will be kicked from whatsapp on phone if you use a different client. but this is offtopic, you might ask mr google for more info
[08:56] <chenwj> talpur: xxx.sh would be fine
[08:56] <chenwj> no, just write down what you type on your terminal
[08:56] <levolent2> just wondering why !equivalents doesn't refer to any CPU benchmark utilities or any terms containing the word "prime"
[08:56] <levolent2> on the first link there are HDD and GPU benchmarking utilities at least, but I was looking for CPU
[08:57] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: there is something like phoronix-test-suite (or somethink like that) for benchmarking, idk f they have a repo
[08:57] <levolent2> cool, "linux gaming" ? I didn't know there is such a thing! hah
[08:58] <nitin__> TakeItEZ,  there is a software bluestack to run android apps .. but it is only available for windows and mac
[08:58] <nitin__> TakeItEZ,  can we use that in linux.. ??
[08:58] <levolent2> nitin_ isn't there some irony there considering linux and android are built on some of the same GNU code? BSD or something
[08:58] <chenwj> wine + bluestack?
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> nitin__: id oubt it would help you. but i don#t have any idea about that
[08:59] <nitin__> TakeItEZ,  thanks
[09:00] <nitin__> chenwj, not working
[09:00] <levolent2> i would think if any OS can be emulated by linux it would be android since that is built on top of some linux code or similar code that linux is
[09:00] <talpur> chenwj: ok I have done, now I how I use it
[09:01] <levolent2> am I hallucinating or isn't android built on BSD/linux
[09:01] <talpur> chenwj: your nick looks one of My teacher's son name
[09:02] <TakeItEZ> !ot | levolent2
[09:02] <levolent2> someone was asking about emultating android within linux so it is related
[09:02] <chenwj> talpur: chmod 644 xxx.sh should work
[09:02] <chenwj> talpur: then you can execute your shell script
[09:03] <nitin__> how can we open the android SDK from teminal..??
[09:05] <TakeItEZ> nitin__: path-to/sdk/tools/android
[09:06] <levolent2> maybe i misunderstood the question... just running dev tools isn't true emu
[09:07] <levolent2> what is the equivalent of tapping ALT? in windows this brings up menu bar commands
[09:07] <levolent2> just trying to get into firefox settings and no apparent settings button
[09:08] <levolent2> i can customize toolbars by rightclicking the home icon but thats about as deep as i can get without the equivalent command of tapping alt
[09:09] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: holding alt brings up global menu here
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> levolent2  do you really need support on how to tap every keyboard key?
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> levolent2  better take your time to get famaliar with the system, on your own
[09:11] <levolent2> is there an ubuntunoobs channel or something? Yes hotkeys that allow access to app settings are important to me.
[09:11] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: hold "super"
[09:11] <levolent2> yea i found it
[09:12] <narcelorio> omees
[09:12] <narcelorio> cabromees
[09:12] <levolent2> for whatever reason the FF devs decided to change downloads from Ctrl+J to Ctrl+Shift+Y .... o_O
[09:12] <levolent2> got it sorted now thx
[09:12] <narcelorio> que cojones dices
[09:12] <narcelorio> en español
[09:13] <narcelorio> MMG
[09:13] <DJones> !es | narcelorio
[09:15] <los> brones
[09:15] <narcelorio> ijos de puta
[09:15] <Ben64> narcelorio: stop that
[09:15] <los> putos jonkis
[09:15] <narcelorio> stop tu cabrones ben64
[09:15] <narcelorio> motherfucker
[09:15] <los> marcelorio negrata!!!
[09:15] <Ben64> DJones: just so you know, los is a clone
[09:16] <los> shut up motherfucker
[09:16] <DJones> Ben64: Yep, was getting round to that one as well
[09:17] <Ben64> oh ok, didn't know if you saw, sorry
[09:17] <DJones> No worries
[09:18] <DooMMasteR> mit nem Flachstrahler aus dem Regal für 20€haben wir hier 2.5km
[09:19] <DJones> DooMMasteR: Wrong channel
[09:19] <MrDecent>  How do I resize windows in Mono/GTK? I want to make a window resizable, and when resize trigger a window event to automaticly adjust widgets and boxes inside it. What is the best approach todo it?
[09:19] <DooMMasteR> :P damn yeah sry DJones
[09:20] <levolent2> is there a low-system-intensive way to install a .deb file ? Default is to load the Ubuntu Software Center which is mega lag for me
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> levolent2  apt-get install in a terminal
[09:20] <chalist> how i can log keyboard activity with utf (persian and english) keymap?
[09:20] <gigas> gdebi or dpkg -i
[09:20] <levolent2> 10 minutes and wheel still spinning! hahhahha just doubleclicked a .deb that i already had download... k
[09:21] <gigas> levolent2: gdebi seems to do better with dependencies
[09:22] <levolent2> gigas its just a benchmark suite
[09:22] <levolent2> takeitez i held super but dont see a task manager listed here. windows hotkeys obviously not working but would be Ctrl+Shift+ESC or Ctrl+Alt+Delete
[09:24] <levolent2> monkeydust can you say why I should use apt-get instead of gigas suggestion? (im not clear on the syntax for that command anyway so it wouldn't be my first choice)
[09:25] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: you cannot use apt-get install ... to install a local .deb file
[09:25] <dr_willis> you dont use apt-get on a  .deb you allready have downloaded
[09:25] <levolent2> k
[09:25] <dr_willis> gdebi foo.deb    is very handy - it will install any extra needed dependencies from the repositories.  if they are in the repos
[09:25] <levolent2> i've used apt-get a few times but never those others
[09:26] <gigas> levolent2: there's a gui version too, gdebi-gtk
[09:26] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: apt-get install foo   to install stuff from repos, not local files
[09:26] <dr_willis> downloading a .deb by itself. is a bit of the exception in ubuntu, not the common practice
[09:27] <levolent2> i just want to use phoronix benchmark suite and the .deb was listed for ubuntu/debian .. i guess i could see whats in the standard linux option?
[09:30] <levolent2> thanks gigas this gdebi-gtk gui is WAY more light-weight than USC for my older laptop. unfortunately everything is greyed out and dont even see a file select ability
[09:30] <levolent2> ahh they stashed it in the alt menu and didn't provide a button apparently
[09:32] <gigas> levolent2: you can change the default action for .deb files to open with gdebi-gtk
[09:32] <gigas> levolent2: when double-clicked
[09:32] <levolent2> good idea
[09:35] <pavan> hi
[09:41] <carlzulauf> Setting up btsync and trying to figure out a way to have it start on boot in ubuntu. Anyone have this working or can you point me to any examples of maybe writing a simple upstart script for a simple executable that runs in the background?
[09:42] <levolent2> gigas still here?
[09:42] <carlzulauf> ideally it would be nice to just be able to treat btsync like any other service in ubuntu, like 'service mysql restart', 'service redis-server start'
[09:42] <gigas> levolent2: yep, what's up?
[09:42] <levolent2> didn't see an option to set default so instead i "forget association" on the other 2... but somehow its still USC for double click
[09:42] <dr_willis>  the  upstart 'cookbook' site has some examples for upstart scripts
[09:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:43] <gigas> levolent2: you should be able to right click on the .deb file in the file manager, choose "open with"
[09:43] <levolent2> yea i did that... found some more stuff in properties this is probably it
[09:43] <levolent2> yep "set as default " is there
[09:45] <levolent2> so it would appear linux doesn't associate icon with default program
[09:45] <levolent2> interesting....
[09:45] <learner> hey guys does anyone know here how to use bcrypt for dovecot?
[09:45] <levolent2> so no way to see default prog at a glance. filetypes will always have that filetype icon
[09:46] <levolent2> i always show filetype by defaul so basically redudancy there that doesn't need to be imo
[09:47] <levolent2> why need icon to show filetype with the letters are there?
[09:52] <levolent2> lol this phoronix suite you mentioned takeitez is showing my cpu as 0.8ghz... its 2.0 or 2.2
[09:52] <Ben64> it's probably 800mhz without load
[09:53] <TakeItEZ> levolent2: benchmarks are pointless, its just a tool a heard of
[09:53] <levolent2> im not running it for comparing hardware (which they are actually great at doing given the right circumstances), but rather to help heat my room. :)
[09:54] <levolent2> you would be amazed how much 3 laptops running benchmarks can raise the temp in a small room
[09:54] <Ben64> run a few "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null" and a few glxgears
[09:55] <levolent2> thats pretty much my extent of use for linux... personal heaters and creating XBMC installer flash sticks
[09:56] <Ben64> you should give it a shot some time, its good
[09:58] <TakeItEZ> !info stress | levolent2 if you want to continue wasting energy
[09:58] <shady_> hi i have a problem with the wifi connection
[09:58] <levolent2> did you just write a utility?
[10:00] <levolent2> well this laptop runs off a 65 or 90W power adapter... pretty sure a small space heater is hundreds of watts... not going to say this is more efficient but the difference cant be too much. This laptop will NEVER draw more than 65W or90W peak. it might be more total watts/hr tho
[10:00] <levolent2> since theres no thermostat
[10:00] <Ben64> a heater is much much more efficient
[10:01] <levolent2> yea it draws way more peak power but uses it smartly
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> well, seems fullmoon isn't far away
[10:01] <levolent2> i should get one of those wattage meter cords... im curious now.
[10:01] <Ben64> TakeItEZ: you play tf2?
[10:01] <levolent2> i want to know the watt/hr difference between idle and benchmarking
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> Ben64: i don't play any computergames
[10:02] <Ben64> oh, thats how i saw its almost a full moon
[10:02] <levolent2> that difference would probably be les than a space heater. but for that tomake sense this laptop would have to be one that stays on all the time already
[10:02] <levolent2> and since it is ONLY on for heat at the moment and learning linux.. yea its for sure a waste
[10:03] <levolent2> if its gonna be on anyway and i just wanna crank it up some? maybe that wouldn't be waste
[10:04] <levolent2> im actually kind of worried what this phoronix is going to do to my sytem considering it got my cpu clock wrong and claims im only drawing 12 milliwatts... here goes nothin
[10:05] <levolent2> lol its a dud. "press 1 to run a test"  ->>> blank line
[10:06] <levolent2> they sure made a flashy icon for a command line tool
[10:11] <vitimiti> hi
[10:15] <backbox> hy
[10:15] <backbox> plz tell me how to install fern wifi crack
[10:16] <backbox> inbackbox
[10:16] <Ben64> backbox is not supported here
[10:16] <backbox> hy
[10:18] <backbox> hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[10:18] <shady_> hello everybody i need help with my wifi
[10:19] <backbox> yes
[10:19] <backbox> hy shady
[10:20] <shady_> hi backbox
[10:20] <backbox> how r you
[10:20] <shady_> fine thx
[10:20] <backbox> how is doing
[10:21] <shady_> could you please help me i'm new in ubuntu world
[10:21] <backbox> tell me
[10:21] <backbox> how i can help you
[10:21] <shady_> me wifi cannt connect to a secured wifi
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> !wifi
[10:22] <shady_> ub 11.10
[10:22] <backbox> install fern wifi cracker
[10:22] <shady_> how?
[10:22] <shady_> via terminal?
[10:22] <TakeItEZ> backbox: stop that
[10:22] <backbox> what
[10:23] <esing> shady_, don't mind backbox, you don't need that software to get your wifi working
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> shady_  and 11.10 is no longer supported
[10:23] <levolent2> backbox that only works on WEP right
[10:23] <shady_> so how could i do it?
[10:24] <backbox> could you tell me more about this
[10:24] <shady_> ok the connection manager detect a full signal but no service
[10:25] <esing> shady_, Follow the doc link MonkeyDust gave you. Upgrade or reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) or Ubuntu 12.10 for support
[10:25] <backbox> dont install in your hard disc
[10:25] <esing> shady_, Do you have dhcp enabled in your router?
[10:26] <JStalin> hi, is it possible to write a python script which will add item to mail icon in notification area?
[10:26] <shady_> i dont know it 's the hotel router
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> JStalin  better ask in #python
[10:26] <esing> shady_, Then you should ask the hotel staff for support
[10:26] <backbox> do not install in your hard because is can delete the partation of your  hard disc
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> JStalin  and there's also alltray
[10:26] <Itachi> If I download 13.04 today and install it, and do an apt-get upgrade after 25 does it becomes stable?
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  yes, it upgrades to the release version
[10:27] <Ben64> Itachi: yes, but support and discussion on 13.04 in #ubuntu+1 until release
[10:27] <DJones> !final | Itachi
[10:27] <Itachi> Thanks MonkeyDust DJones
[10:28] <shady_> how to install via terminal
[10:28] <shady_> ?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !install
[10:28] <JStalin> MonkeyDust: thx
[10:29] <backbox> how many people use blacktrack
[10:29] <backbox> 5
[10:30] <DJones> backbox: We've no idea, this is Ubuntu support, you'd have to ask them
[10:30] <shady_> backbox
[10:30] <backbox> yes
[10:31] <shady_> how to install the new version via terminal
[10:31] <shady_> ?
[10:31] <esing> shady_, Stop to pm me before you asked me please
[10:32] <shady_> sorry esing
[10:32] <backbox> just simpley go to google  and find comands for instalation to new vision
[10:32] <shady_> I'm new, esing I don't know the rules, sorry again
[10:33] <shady_> thx
[10:33] <backbox> shady whare you from
[10:33] <DJones> !google | backbox
[10:34] <backbox> sory
[10:34] <DJones> backbox: Please remember this channel is for support issues, not general chat, if you want general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:34] <backbox> great
[10:34] <backbox> so tell ms how to insatall fern in ubuntu
[10:35] <backbox> any one tell me
[10:35] <Ben64> you said you have backbox, which we cannot support
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> !info fern
[10:36] <backbox> so whare it is work
[10:36] <levolent2> hey backbox
[10:36] <MonkeyDust>  backbox i guess you're not in the right channel
[10:36] <backbox> yes bor levolent2
[10:36] <backbox> i am konw
[10:36] <levolent2> was just reading up on fern... doesn't sound like the kind of program google would support yet its on googlecode.com ? huh?
[10:37] <backbox> yes
[10:37] <DJones> backbox: You'll have to contact the backbox support team, presumably via their own support channel or forums from their website
[10:38] <backbox> i am using back box and these all software are linux basied
[10:39] <backbox> inact ubuntu
[10:39] <backbox> sory
[10:39] <DJones> backbox: This only supports the official releases of UBuntu, any other linux versions have their own support channels
[10:39] <backbox> infact
[10:40] <backbox> i guess you all gays  are right
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> backbox  we don't know what the backbox developpers have changed to make backbox different from ubuntu, hence we cannot give support
[10:41] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: he got hammered
[10:41] <Itachi> And what will happen if I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to 12.10 after release of 13.04? What if I also do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:42] <Ben64> Itachi: it stays 12.10
[10:42] <backbox_> hy djones
[10:44] <bahamas> hello, the sound in my browser is flaky. I restarted the browser, I tried with both Firefox and Chromium and I have the same issue. any tips on how to debug this?
[10:45] <Itachi> but packages are upgraded right.. so what's the purpose of installing 13.04?
[10:45] <aneks> does anyone know when 13.04 is supposed to be released? all I see is April 2013
[10:45] <Ben64> aneks: should  be the 25th
[10:45] <DJones> !schedule | aneks
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> aneks  tomorrow, if all goew a
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> aneks  tomorrow, if all goes as planned
[10:46] <aneks> oh awesome
[10:46] <Ben64> Itachi: but 13.04 has newer versions, and is supported for 6 months longer than 12.10
[10:46] <floaty1212> anybody have an answer for Netflix requiring Silverlight update?
[10:46] <aneks> looking forward to testing it out
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> aneks  i've been using it for two weeks now, it's really nice
[10:47] <esing> Itachi, Afaik upgrade will also upgrade to 13.04, but it does not remove packages which dependencies changed and are not needed anymore. So dist-upgrade is a cleaner upgrade
[10:47] <aneks> MonkeyDust, it's not the stable release, is it?
[10:47] <esing> Itachi, man apt-get
[10:48] <backboxyes> hey gays this is problem in my ubuntu for installiation of fern wifi
[10:48] <backboxyes> Lintian check results for /cdrom/Fern-Wifi-Cracker_1.6_all.deb:
[10:48] <backboxyes> E: Fern-Wifi-Cracker: package-not-lowercase
[10:48] <backboxyes> tell me about more
[10:49] <Ben64> backboxyes: we still can't support a non-ubuntu distro here
[10:49] <Itachi> esing, I read that. My question is, If I do apt-get upgrade to 12.10, do I get new unity that is in 13.04? and new kernel that is in 13.04?
[10:49] <Ben64> Itachi: no
[10:49] <backboxyes> i will upgrade but not working
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> aneks  it's beta
[10:50] <Itachi> Ben64, but dist-upgrade will do, right?
[10:50] <Ben64> no
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  guess you want do release-upgrade
[10:50] <Itachi> yes MonkeyDust, but without swiching off my computer
[10:50] <aneks> yeah I've tried the beta too, a few weeks ago, that's why I can't wait for the stable release
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  as it will get an newer kernel (3.8), you'll need to restart
[10:51] <backboxyes> i will upgrate  but  and next time it is not work
[10:51] <DJones> backboxyes: As you were told earlier, fern isn't an Ubuntu package, so it isn't supported here, you need to contact the developers support people
[10:52] <backboxyes> who is devalper tell me about
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> backboxyes  backbox is a distro for security testing, so if you're skilled enough with security issues, you should not have to ask all these questions
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> to deal with*
[10:52] <DJones> backboxyes: We don't know who the developer is, its not part of Ubuntu
[10:52] <Itachi> MonkeyDust, would it be forced restart or i'll get option to restart later?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  it asks to restart
[10:53] <esing> MonkeyDust, If 13.04 is stable then a dist-upgrade from 12.10 should upgrade to Ubuntu13.04 right?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> esing  no
[10:53] <Ben64> dist-upgrade doesn't do what you think it does
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> esing  'do release-upgrade' would
[10:55] <esing> Good to know, thanks
[10:55] <esing> Is it recommendable to put 'do release-upgrade' also into a anacron 'cron.daily', so that once 13.04 or higher releases are stable that I get the upgrade as soon as possible?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> esing  release-upgrade is only every 6 months, not daily
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> esing  i have cron-job for daily update-upgrade (in 13.04)
[10:58] <esing> MonkeyDust, My daily update-upgrade (12.10) cron looks like this: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade;sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:58] <Somelauw> I installed opencv following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV . When doing pkg-config --libs opencv, nithing shows up.
[10:59] <Somelauw> esing: apt-get update is superfluous if you are doing apt-get dist-upgrade anyway.
[10:59] <Somelauw> oh, way nvm, I was confused with apt-get upgrade
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> esing  looks good
[10:59] <esing> Somelauw, Oh, I didn't know that. So dist-upgrade implies apt-get update
[11:00] <esing> MonkeyDust, I could put the do-release-upgrade in cron.weekly, but I worry that putting it into cron.monthly is too great delay, assuming it would be released few days after the cron.month.
[11:00] <Somelauw> esing: no, nvm, I was confused
[11:01] <shafox> hi, how to upgrade php 5.3 to php 5.4 in ubuntu lucid
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> esing  release-upgrade is only every six months, useless to do it every month
[11:01] <Ben64> esing: you shouldn't need a cron, systems usually are set to auto update
[11:02] <esing> Good to know, thanks
[11:03] <Itachi> MonkeyDust, sorry, I am still confused. If I do an apt-get dist-upgrade,  on 12.10 after release of 13.04, does my kernel gets upgraded to 3.8?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  no
[11:04] <shafox> if i update the php version from 5.3 to 5.4 will that break mysql also ??? using this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5/+packages
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  kernel 3.8 comes with 13.04, when you install it
[11:05] <Itachi> MonekyDust, so, I'll have to wait for the repository to be updated if I want it on 12.10 using upgrade method. right?
[11:05] <shafox> or rather this lucid https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5?field.series_filter=lucid
[11:06] <Itachi> MonkeyDust, so, I'll have to wait for the repository to be updated if I want it on 12.10 using upgrade method. right?
[11:06] <esing> Iam curious if a (few) programs break when I'd upgrade to 13.04 stable in a few days. I'll see
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  the 12.10 repo contains kernel 3.5, which will be patched with each upgrade, but not replaced by kernel 3.8
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  kernel 3.8 will never be in the 12.10 repos
[11:07] <Ben64> however, it will be in 12.04
[11:07] <Itachi> MonkeyDust, now I understood. The kernel version never changes, but is patched. Am I right this time?
[11:07] <esing> Itachi, Why would you want to keep 12.10 instead of upgrading to 13.04?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  yes
[11:08] <Ben64> if you don't want to upgrade every 6 months, you should use the LTS version
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> Itachi  it was confusing for me, too
[11:09] <esing> I worry that programs break more likely if one upgrades from one LTS to another LTS due of greater release cycles and more dependencies differences
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> esing  on the contrary
[11:10] <Itachi> esing, I want to install ubuntu desktop on college labs. Requirements are to keep the the lab computers as updated as possible. I thought to make an uupdate && upgrade startup script at system startup. But now I think I'll have to install 13.04 manually on each computer
[11:10] <jpds> esing: Nothing to testing upgrades first?
[11:11] <Itachi> MonkeyDust, thanks for explaining me.
[11:11] <Ben64> esing: the non-LTS releases are more experimental and prone to breakage than LTS
[11:12] <esing> Oh I see, so LTS is also safer concerning package breaks on upgrade
[11:12] <Ben64> yeah, trade "newness" for stability
[11:13] <Ben64> 5 years of support vs 1.5 years
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  as of 13.04, non-LTS will be supported for only 9 months
[11:15] <Somelauw> I want to use opencv. I tried the tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV . Unfortunately, I can't find the package by doing: pkg-config --libs opencv
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  take a look http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/24/ubuntu_reduces_support_times/
[11:17] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: ooh
[11:18] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: makes sense actually, so people have to upgrade sooner if they want to keep security
[11:26] <pinguyuser> hello!
[11:27] <Aww> Hello :o
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> pinguyuser  pinguy is not supported here, type /join #pinguyos
[11:29] <__CodingNinja> hello all
[11:29] <pinguyuser> :)
[11:30] <__CodingNinja> I'm assuming 13.04 will not have any new icons?
[11:33] <Somelauw> I want to use opencv. I tried the tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV . Unfortunately, I can't find the package by doing: pkg-config --libs opencv
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> __CodingNinja  some will change: show desktop, software center and others
[11:34] <__CodingNinja> hi MonkeyDust, shame they didn't do all of them
[11:35] <jrib> Somelauw: how did you install it?
[11:35] <ginololo> hello everybody
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> __CodingNinja  it's easy to install a different set of icons, i'm using Mashup
[11:35] <__CodingNinja> hi ginololo!
[11:35] <jrib> Somelauw: ugh, ignore what that page says about "sudo su".  You can just skip that step
[11:36] <__CodingNinja> yes, I've installed different icons and themes,however its the whole "out of box" experience of others
[11:37] <Somelauw> jrib: I did ignore sudo su
[11:38] <Somelauw> and in python, I can just do import cv and cv2
[11:38] <jrib> Somelauw: how did you install it?
[11:38] <Somelauw> But I can't use opencv from C++, because I can't link to it.
[11:38] <Somelauw> jrib: I followed the  instructions on  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenCV
[11:38] <Somelauw> Can I output the last 10 apt-get install commands somehow?
[11:39] <Ankhwatcher> Hey I'm trying to connect to a VPN with NetworkManager, but when I open "Editing VPN connection 1" every field is greyed out and I can't put any settings in.
[11:39] <Ankhwatcher> Anyone know why that would happen?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  try history | tail
[11:40] <Somelauw> jrib: sudo apt-get install libcv2.3 libcvaux2.3 libhighgui2.3 python-opencv opencv-doc libcv-dev libcvaux-dev libhighgui-dev
[11:41] <jrib> Somelauw: and now what are you trying to build and how?
[11:42] <Somelauw> jrib: Well,  pkg-config --libs opencv should output the files I need to link with according to the opencv wiki.
[11:43] <jrib> Somelauw: ok
[11:43] <xunlei> quit
[11:43] <Somelauw> Also cmake doesn't work because when I do find_package( OpenCV REQUIRED )
[11:43] <Somelauw> So I haven't found a way to compile a program using opencv.
[11:43] <jrib> Somelauw: apt-cache policy libopencv-dev    returns?
[11:44] <Somelauw> jrib: libopencv-dev:
[11:45] <Somelauw>   Installed: (none)
[11:45] <Somelauw>   Candidate: 2.3.1-11
[11:45] <jrib> Somelauw: you need this package
[11:46] <Somelauw> huh, okay, I'll do another apt-get libopencv-dev? Then I guess the instructions are incomplete
[11:47] <Somelauw> jrib: thanks, now it works
[11:47] <Somelauw> and cmake works as well now
[11:47] <Somelauw> makes me wonder why the package consists of so many parts that need to be installed separely
[11:55] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:55] <levolent2> hi