[09:06] <jmdc> drewbenn: I found out more about menus. /usr/share/applications contains many .desktop files. These create the menu items, and have lots of metadata and translations and stuff in them. Apparently, there is typically one .desktop file per menu item. So I was wrong about the multiple entries per file thing. Anyway, the menus are created out of those files (and probably could be created out of others too, if you told it to) by using a .menu file. .
[09:06] <Aviel> what to do
[09:07] <drewbenn> Agent_Bob, 'open-gnome' did what I want, as Flannel said.  It's exactly what I wanted!
[09:07] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, that's FUD bull... linux isn't harder than windows, you'd have just as much trouble on windows if the XP driver was broken for your wireless card
[09:07] <Agent_bob> tkooda that i don't know.   i'm not the man to ask about gpg.   only i recognized the error message.
[09:07] <MidnighToker> i do a lot of remote maintainance and am looking for a tool to display `wall` messages to using running X
[09:07] <drewbenn> Wow, thanks jmdc!
[09:07] <tkooda> do keys in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg need to be signed by something (anything?) in order to be used by apt?
[09:07] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I agree.. there's just more usuers on windows, so "my driver is broken on windows" gets more attention, faster, than "my driver is broken on linux"....
[09:08] <tkooda> anyone got any suggestions on where to get help for /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ?
[09:08] <Agent_bob> drewbenn you mean only within gnome-terminal  you want that ?    cause that wont work in a console.    i'm sorry if we aren't communicating well here.
[09:08] <drewbenn> (well, more appropriately, "gets more attentions, faster *from the driver's manufacturer*")
[09:08] <Avariel> oh how do i address my response to someone ? do i click on their name or is there a keyboard thing ?
[09:08] <[chr0n0s] > how do i search in aptitude install base ?
[09:08] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, that too is a crap argument.... there is much more community support for linux than there is for windows
[09:08] <jmdc> drewbenn: also, did you see the comment about gnome-open? if not, gnome-open file does the right thing for you from the command line
[09:08] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  most irc clients support tab completion of names
[09:09] <drewbenn> Agent_bob, yes, I'm not communicating well.  I'm still on my first ubuntu distro -- haven't gotten to installing kde yet -- so, 'within gnome-terminal' is apparently what I needed.
[09:09] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I also agree - I'
[09:09] <Avariel> MidnighToker: oh i see
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  xchat/mirc as default, not sure about others
[09:09] <drewbenn> ve gotten a lot of support within the linux community.
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  there ya go :)
[09:09] <LordLimecat> if i want all traces of nvidia driver removed, do i need to remove nvidia-kernel-common?
[09:09] <Avariel> MidnighToker: thanks, xchat here
[09:09] <LordLimecat> or would that be a "bad thing"
[09:09] <MidnighToker> Avariel:  ditto :)
[09:09] <drewbenn> jmdc yes, gnome-open is doing what I want, it is exactly waht I was looking for :)
[09:10] <jmdc> alpha: there isn't a wallpaper folder. You can change backgrounds by right clicking on the desktop. Gnome remembers which wallpapers have been used in the past in the gconf registry.
[09:10] <jmdc> drewbenn: its pretty hot stuff
[09:10] <Agent_bob> drewbenn got ya.   i'll move on.   but anything else, just ask.
[09:10] <glassd> gnome-open?
[09:10] <drewbenn> Thanks, Agent_bob, for the help :)
[09:11] <[chr0n0s] > glassd : try gnome-open <filename>
[09:11] <Agent_bob> glassd file `which gnome-open`
[09:11] <jmdc> glassd: if you do gnome-open file from the cli, the file gets opened as if you double clicked in in nautilus
[09:11] <jmdc> (very hot stuff!)
[09:11] <Zweisteine> Hi, I want to recompile the kernel, I copied the config file corresponding to my running kernel from /boot into /usr/src/<new kernel>/.config. When I run make menuconfig the file is changed in a dubious manner. Am I doing something wrong?
[09:11] <glassd> handy that
[09:12] <Cryx> Heya, anyone know how to change nanos charset? I have reconfigured locales and all but nano still wont show scandinavian marks as they supposed to be :(
[09:12] <rredd4> can i get cube effects with a nvidia geforce 2 card?
[09:12] <glassd> Zweisteine: i don't think you need to run a config install if you have a config already
[09:12] <Agent_bob> Zweisteine if you copy the config  why generate another one ?   or am i missing something ?
[09:12] <jmdc> cryx: I checked the docs when you asked a while back, and they say if your terminal and local support it, it will use UTF-8.
[09:12] <mjbrooks> !kernel | Zweisteine
[09:12] <ubotu> Zweisteine: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.    I agree that there is a _lot_ of community support, and in fact i've been availing myself of it, but I'm still in the "wireless doesn't 'just work' camp."  I am beginning to think that it might even be a hardware problem, in which case the MS support side couldn't help me either :), but it still elaves me with "my first home *nix wireless didn't work out of the box."  So, I am left with --from my experience-- "linux is
[09:14] <drewbenn> more difficult than windows."  (very subjective, I know)
[09:14] <multidex> thank you agent
[09:14] <jmdc> multidex: you may have to add execute permissions first
[09:14] <glassd> do people actualy use anything other then bash nowadays?
[09:14] <jmdc> thats chmod u+x FILE
[09:14] <Agent_bob> glassd dash
[09:14] <jmdc> glassd: mostly its just legacy code
[09:15] <glassd> dash?
[09:15] <drewbenn> glassd, switching to ksh, to match my work environment, is low on my priority list, but I'll get there, eventually.
[09:15] <Zweisteine> glassd, Agent_bob: I would like to modify a configuration option, but keep the rest as they are.
[09:15] <Agent_bob> glassd bash is bloated.   dash is a posix compliant shell
[09:15] <mjbrooks> glassd, my shell is set at random on bootup  ')
[09:15] <Zweisteine> mjbrooks, Thank you for the link, I will read it
[09:15] <yigal> Agent_bob: what desktop manager do you use?
[09:15] <glassd> mjbrooks: that must get anoying...
[09:15] <drewbenn> mjbrooks, that sure must make life interesting!
[09:15] <jmdc> Cryx: did you just start the terminal from the applications menu?
[09:15] <mjbrooks> glassd, nah... it's fun
[09:16] <multidex> it's for dapper and i'm runing feisty, so i get the error "This script only applies to ubuntu 6.06
[09:16] <Agent_bob> yigal desktop manager ?  heh  console user here mate.
[09:16] <glassd> Zweisteine: try a make gconf
[09:16] <glassd> or menuconfig if your using kde
[09:16] <yigal> Agent_bob: ok, well then at least your not a hypocrite :)
[09:16] <glassd> no...
[09:16] <glassd> ack
[09:16] <Agent_bob> yigal i try.   thanks.
[09:16] <glassd> i forget the qt gui config option
[09:17] <Cryx> putty :P
[09:17] <glassd> uh no...
[09:18] <Ashex> What's the easiest way to get the video file info through command-line?
[09:18] <Zweisteine> glassd, I'm using gnome. gconf doesn't work. xconfig needs QT
[09:18] <Agent_bob> Ashex maybe   file blah
[09:18] <glassd> Zweisteine: lemme look it up 1sec
[09:18] <mjbrooks> Ashex, what kind of info?
[09:18] <Zweisteine> glassd, do you think using a graphical configuration program will not overwrite my .config in a dubious manner?
[09:19] <Avariel> i heard ubuntu 7.10 will be more compatible with drivers...maybe some might just work without requiring installation..could that be so ?
[09:19] <Agent_bob> yeah and what kinda vidio file
[09:19] <glassd> Zweisteine: it's how i used to do it
[09:19] <Ashex> mjbrooks, elisa crashes when playing a video, so I just want to grab the codec info
[09:19] <Ashex> Agent_bobs suggestion worked though
[09:19] <Zweisteine> glassd, Ok, I'll install the gtk headers then
[09:20] <glassd> there is a gnome one
[09:20] <jmdc> Avariel: the new kernel will include new drivers
[09:20] <jmdc> and make some more wireless cards "just work"
[09:20] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know how to install libflac++6 on Ubuntu? Is it even possible?
[09:20] <Agent_bob> Ashex file is pretty handy,   might want to make a note of it.
[09:21] <Ashex> Agent_bob, I'll mark it in my notepad :)
[09:21] <winchesterPAT> dell ubuntu ?
[09:21] <mjbrooks> Ashex, you mean gedit  ;)
[09:22] <Doomguy0505> The only flac++ v6 is from gutsy, which doesn't like feisty libc6
[09:22] <Zweisteine> !stages
[09:22] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Kernel gets updated in stages.  If you have the updated kernel, but do not have the corresponding restricted modules, you may be leaving yourself with no X when you reboot.  If you have compiled binary versions of your video driver, eg from the nVidia site, you will need to recompile them for the new kernel.  This is normal, and not a bug.
[09:22] <winchesterPAT> whats the meaning o G in edit ?
[09:22] <glassd> the g prefix usualy means gnome
[09:22] <mjbrooks> the ever informed ubotu  ;)
[09:22] <winchesterPAT> do i need to reinstall my ubuntu ?
[09:23] <winchesterPAT> once the next versio comes out ?
[09:23] <Agent_bob> ok.  i'm going to swap keyboards now.   on two boxen   see if i can at least move the issue to a less used box.
[09:23] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, you can stay on that version as long as you like.
[09:23] <winchesterPAT> why ?
[09:23] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT no, you should be able to just press an 'upgrade' button to get the latest version, if you want it.
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> i shoould ?
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> do you mean i can ?
[09:24] <Agent_bob> winchesterPAT gedit ?    gnome-editor
[09:24] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, you can, if you shoose to
[09:24] <drewbenn> you will not need to _reinstall_, just let the auto-upgrade do its thing.  Again, only if you want.  If everything is working great, you don't need to change anything :)
[09:24] <winchesterPAT> were is this button ?
[09:24] <jmdc> winchesterPat: What's your question about gedit?
[09:25] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT are you asking -- do you NEED to upgrade;;;;    or is it easy to upgrade vs. do you need to format & reinstall from scratch?
[09:25] <Agent_bob> drewbenn well said.    i stick with the LTS personally.
[09:25] <mjbrooks> unless you ised Automatix, in which case things are fudged and you can't upgrade normally
[09:25] <c_imut> hy
[09:25] <winchesterPAT> should i expect troubles ?
[09:25] <drewbenn> Agent_bob I've been screwed over by too many updates, too :(
[09:26] <glassd> this is going to sound like an odd question, but is it me or do full screen videos in linux just do a standard pixel doubling method rather then a smart resize?
[09:26] <Agent_bob> i'm an "if it aint broke, don't update it!" kinda guy.
[09:26] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, did you use Automatix on that installation?
[09:26] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT I wouldn't expect any troubles, but I haven't upgraded yet, so I can't say.... that said, if things are "just working" right now, there may be no reason to upgrade.
[09:26] <Agent_bob> but this is broke.  so i'll be back          maybe....
[09:27] <Doomguy0505> Does anyone know how to install libflac++6 on Ubuntu? Is it even *possible*?
[09:27] <winchesterPAT> cant i reinstall and still keep al my stuff  ?
[09:27] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT sorry, I'm still trying to understand your original question: what were you asking about the upgrade?    It should be very simple, if you want it to be [barring that 'automatix' question] .
[09:27] <winchesterPAT> never eard about autimix
[09:27] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, it depends... is you /home on a seperate partition?
[09:27] <jmdc> winchesterPat: the update manager gives you a nice button for upgrading to the newest release. Its not always perfect. Several releases back, when the feature of "automatically" upgrading was new, there were some problems. Its been good lately though. I would go for it.
[09:27] <drewbenn> You won't need to _reinstall_, if you don't want to.  You will be able to just upgrade.  Have you gotten the upgrade manager popups, where it tells you about newer versions of software you have already installed?
[09:28] <jmdc> (Unless, as everyone else says, you used automatix (May it burn forever))
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> ok
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> automix is evil ?
[09:28] <jmdc> yes
[09:28] <mjbrooks> yes
[09:28] <ggarlic> maybe
[09:28] <mjbrooks> there is no maybe
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> whats it dor ?
[09:29] <winchesterPAT> for
[09:29] <winchesterPAT> whats automix for ?
[09:29] <drewbenn> ah, from wikipedia: "Automatix is not recommended by the Ubuntu development team"
[09:29] <jmdc> it tries to make many things work out of the box, but it is reallly reallly badly done.
[09:29] <jmdc> and it breaks things.
[09:30] <glassd> breaking things is bad
[09:30] <drewbenn> not breaking things is good
[09:30] <jmdc> back in the day, it was a pain in the neck to get mp3 support installed. Automatix did it automatically.
[09:30] <glassd> unless your breaking the seal on a new dvd or game, then it's good
[09:30] <winchesterPAT> dont you mean fixing things ?
[09:30] <mjbrooks> it's a 3rd party "blind rhinosourus" that charges through you're system destroying everything in it's path in a cludgy attempt to make your mp3s play, when all you have to do instead is simply apt-get the restricted package  :^/
[09:30] <Agent_bob> well.   it wasn't the keyboard.
[09:31] <glassd> gstreamer for the win
[09:31] <jmdc> most of the problems it tried to address have been solved
[09:31] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT I was trying to be funny, but I'm an engineer, so it doesn't usually work :)
[09:31] <tommax1083> hi, all can anyone help me on install wikimedia on ubuntu server 6.06
[09:31] <Agent_bob> my xorg.conf says 104  but i tried 101 and 102 also  same thing on all.
[09:31] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, lol   that last one about being an engineer did  ;)
[09:32] <drewbenn> :)
[09:32] <g0dd3ss> gahhhh why does firefox take soooo loooong to start up
[09:32] <mjbrooks> what's the keyboard again Agent_bob ?
[09:32] <Agent_bob> pc 102   ps/2
[09:32] <Blindraven> winchesterPAT, Just remember, opinions are opinions - Automatix has worked a GEM for alot of people aswell - just see for yourself and if you like it - great, if not, uninstall. Alot of people only dont like it because of the no-ask methods in which it installs, funnily enough, if you chose to install it chances are you didnt need to be asked duh.
[09:33] <drewbenn> g0dd3ss do you have a lot of saved tabs trying to re-open, or no tabs?
[09:33] <winchesterPAT> any one tryed new opensuse ?
[09:33] <glassd> Agent_bob: your having input problems?
[09:33] <g0dd3ss> no tabs drewbenn
[09:33] <Doomguy0505> Why doesn't Ubuntu have any libflac++ 6?
[09:33] <drewbenn> hmmm..... we may have been led astray by the automatix discussion: winchesterPAT, did you try it?  If not, we should drop that thread!
[09:33] <Agent_bob> glassd yes.  ctrl key not working in gui mode.  works fine in the console
[09:33] <jmdc> Blindraven: I really disagree. A lot of things are not set back to the way they were after an "uninstall"
[09:33] <drewbenn> g0dd3ss no ideas, sorry :(
[09:34] <g0dd3ss> oook thanks drewbenn
[09:34] <winchesterPAT> automix is good after all
[09:34] <drewbenn> sorry g0dd3ss ;)
[09:34] <Blindraven> jmdc, ye, im sure there are lots that would disagree, thats their super perogative - I'm just saying it comes down to opinion.
[09:34] <winchesterPAT> fixes mp3 play back
[09:34] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, this channel is for Ubuntu support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussing other distros and non-support things :)
[09:34] <glassd> Agent_bob: that sounds about as random as my old acpi errors back when i used gentoo...
[09:34] <Agent_bob> !automatix | winchesterPAT
[09:34] <ubotu> winchesterPAT: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.    Or not?  You originally asked about upgrading to 7.10... Automatix will (may) affect that.
[09:35] <Blindraven> winchesterPAT, and just remember the "All knowing bot" is fed bias from a mostly bias and elitest userbase :)
[09:35] <tommax1083> anyone know a good text editor for wikimedia? thanks! :)
[09:35] <winchesterPAT> drewbenn: i call to my right to remain silent on that question
[09:35] <ipx__> 2 days :-D
[09:35] <drewbenn> ah, okay :)
[09:35] <glassd> my 7.10 beta install should get updated to final when it's out right?
[09:35] <Agent_bob> glassd hmm.  well it's hardly random.   i can switch back and forth  and each time i go into X  it has to be reset before it will work to get me out of X...
[09:35] <Blindraven> tommax1083, vim :P
[09:36] <drewbenn> I'd recommend _not_ upgrading to 7.10, in that case.  Things work for you right now, right?  Then don't try to break them.
[09:37] <Agent_bob> !worksforme | Blindraven
[09:37] <ubotu> Blindraven: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[09:37] <glassd> Agent_bob: yeah, same thing happened to me, some things wouldn't work in X but they did in the console, it was actualy an acpi problem
[09:37] <glassd> so random
[09:37] <cwgannon> well, i've got it all back to working now, but i'm not sure why it was ever not working at all ... i reinstalled compizconfig and installed emerald; both are accessible from System, Preferences menu, though CompizConfig is now Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[09:37] <Jordan_U> For some reason Neverball goes left when I tilt my laptop to the right and visa-versa, I can't find a setting to switch this back
[09:37] <drewbenn> Hey Agent_bob, are those bot commands to prevent people from discussing topics?  (I'm about 5 years behind the IRC curve, so just curious)
[09:37] <Agent_bob> glassd i assume you were running acpid  though ?
[09:38] <glassd> drewbenn: i don't know if anything is broken or not, lol that's the problem
[09:38] <Blindraven> Agent_bob, I've been in the channel for 3 years, stick the smug bot up your bumbumb
[09:38] <drewbenn> glassd, do things work for you the way you expect them to? If so, nothing is broken :)
[09:38] <Jordan_U> drewbenn, Just to save us the time of typing the same thing over and over :)
[09:38] <glassd> Agent_bob: it was a notebook, so yeah
[09:38] <Jakobsen> Hi there. I have problems getting my wireless network card to work on a Thinkpad T60 (2008-CTO). Can somebody help?
[09:38] <Agent_bob> Blindraven i'v been in the channel for 2 minutes and you cause it to stink.   </shrugs>
[09:39] <glassd> drewbenn: except for upscaled videos being really fugly, things seem fine
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, Do you know what chipset?
[09:39] <Blindraven> Agent_bob, bias. hushed.
[09:39] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U, that's one of the things I need help to do..
[09:39] <drewbenn> jordan_U -- I don't understand, "just to save us the time of typing the same thing over and over" -- is that in reference to my bots question? I know what bots are, I just haven't been on IRC in 5ish years so I don't know the latest l33t bot commands....
[09:40] <mjbrooks> Jakobsen, in a terminal type "lspci | grep Wireless"  without the quotes
[09:40] <drewbenn> glassd I'd be pretty happy, then :)  You could have worse problems.... read the release notes, and see if there is anything that seems to address your exact problem.
[09:40] <Agent_bob> glassd yeah i'm not running anything with X that should be causing that.  i'm satisfied that it's something in my xorg.conf   i'll look through it again.
[09:40] <Jakobsen> mjbrooks: nothing is found
[09:40] <LordLimecat> well, at this point i cannot install any nvidia binary drivers at all :\
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, You can check in System -> Preferences -> Hardware Information or "lspci" in a terminal
[09:41] <Jordan_U> LordLimecat, What have you tried?
[09:41] <LordLimecat> is there any chance someone could help me get them working again?
[09:41] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U, all I can get from lspci is this: "03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 0024 (rev 01)"
[09:41] <mjbrooks> ewww   1 sec
[09:41] <LordLimecat> Jordan_U: ive tried the restricted driver manager, removing nvidia-kernel-common and reinstalling, installing the nvidia run script, etc
[09:41] <glassd> drewbenn: i somehow dout that is high up on anyones list for things to look into, hehe
[09:41] <riotkittie> atheros, wee.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Jakobsen, Have you tried System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manger?
[09:42] <LordLimecat> each time, ive verified the xorg.conf, and restarted gdm (as well as restarting system), and i get "screen cannot be found" issues
[09:42] <Jakobsen> Jordan_U: the only driver in there is my ATi driver.. I already checked
[09:42] <LordLimecat> ive had the nvidia installer rewrite the xorg too
[09:42] <Agent_bob> what if i remove everything in the keyboard section execpt the discriptor ?   will that let xorg "leave the keymap alone" ?
[09:42] <winchesterPAT> any one tryed the new opensuse ?
[09:43] <winchesterPAT> is it better then ubuntu ?
[09:43] <mjbrooks> Jakobsen, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972
[09:43] <LordLimecat> Jordan_U: this all started when i installed the nvidia driver from nvidias site without removing nvidia-glx-new.  I later uninstalled the nvidia official one, and removed nvidia-glx-new, reverted to nv, and tried again. Nothing seems to work at this point
[09:43] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, nope it is not
[09:43] <winchesterPAT> why ?
[09:43] <alecwh> I'm using a dell latitude D630, and I'm having problems connecting with my school's WPA network. All my friend's macs and windows PCs connect fine, but my computer just won't connect. The WPA pass is correct. Can anyone help? I'm using NDisWrapper I think with my wifi card.
[09:43] <Jakobsen> mjbrooks, I will do.. Thank you :)
[09:43] <glassd> there is a ps3 version of ubuntu?
[09:43] <drewbenn> because you are in #ubuntu :)
[09:44] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, because it is not.. stop trolling
[09:44] <Agent_bob> didn't work....   </shucks>
[09:44] <winchesterPAT> trolling ?
[09:44] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, you've been asked to take non ubuntu support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <winchesterPAT> mjbrooks being biased is evil
[09:45] <glassd> but your in the official ubuntu channel...
[09:45] <drewbenn> winchesterPAT, 'trolling' means writing comments that will anger the people involved in the conversation.  You are in a chat room named 'ubuntu', so asking if a non-ubuntu distribution is better than an ubuntu release is like walking into a bar in ireland and saying 'england futbol sucks'....
[09:45] <elkbuntu> winchesterPAT, you've been asked several times to stay on topic. if you persist in your current line of discussion you will be removed from the channel
[09:45] <mjbrooks> winchesterPAT, I'm not biased...  I currently have many different distros under my control... I answered your question
[09:46] <Jordan_U> winchesterPAT, Bottom line, if you are not trying to get support for Ubuntu, you should not be in the Ubuntu support channel
[09:46] <mjbrooks> ty Jordan_U
[09:46] <hugolp> anyone in Gutsy and being unable to conect to the network after this morning updates?
[09:47] <mjbrooks> !gutsy | hugolp
[09:47] <ubotu> hugolp: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:47] <hugolp> ok thanks
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> linux people duck
[09:47] <mjbrooks> so near yet, so far away
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> suck
[09:47] <winchesterPAT> biased idiots
[09:47] <mjbrooks> !ops | winchesterPAT
[09:47] <ubotu> winchesterPAT: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:48] <drewbenn> heh
[09:48] <elkbuntu> mjbrooks, you were aware i was here, it wasnt needed to do that
[09:48] <mjbrooks> no sorry   I was not aware
[09:48] <mjbrooks> but ty
[09:48] <drewbenn> he's right, he just made the mistake of saying out loud :)
[09:48] <drewbenn> mjbrooks I agree, I want the official release today :(
[09:48] <Frogzoo_> winchesterPAT: how so? mods won't tolerate that btw
[09:48] <LordLimecat> thank you -_-
[09:49] <LordLimecat> so, Jordan_U, any ideas? :\
[09:49] <LordLimecat> sort of sucks to be without a useable 7600 :\
[09:49] <Agent_bob> frogzoo_  i still haven't gotten the ctrl key to work inside of X    did you have any thoughts on it ?
[09:50] <alecwh> I'm using a dell latitude D630, and I'm having problems connecting with my school's WPA network. All my friend's macs and windows PCs connect fine, but my computer just won't connect. The WPA pass is correct. Can anyone help? I'm using NDisWrapper I think with my wifi card. I have a topic @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3541789&posted=1#post3541789 , but my question wasn't really answered.
[09:50] <jussi01> !wpa | alecwh
[09:50] <ubotu> alecwh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:50] <mjbrooks> elkbuntu, I don't know all the ops, and since they don't stay oped, it's hard to see who of those I do know are here on the long user list  ;)
[09:50] <jussi01> alecwh: have followed the ionfo in that link
[09:50] <alecwh> jussi01: What am I looking for?
[09:50] <NinjaSouljah> blastin out the new collie buddz cd on linux
[09:51] <jussi01> alecwh: the are certain instructions for wpa
[09:51] <drewbenn> alecwh, follow the link from 'ubotu'
[09:51] <alecwh> Ok, I will. :) T hanks for your help everone.
[09:51] <glassd> i'm still completly lost with this video upscale issue...
[09:51] <jussi01> alecwh: :)
[09:51] <elkbuntu> mjbrooks, we have had discussions before regarding op related things, and i was actively talking :
[09:51] <NinjaSouljah> whats up with virtualbox will I have to install a copy of windows in linux or can I start running programs?
[09:52] <jussi01> !wine | NinjaSouljah
[09:52] <ubotu> NinjaSouljah: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:52] <NinjaSouljah> yeah there is the filebrowser
[09:52] <Frogzoo_> Agent_bob: any other keyboard layouts installed apart from the one you're using?
[09:52] <NinjaSouljah> wine browser or something when i run a program from there I get a kernel.dll error
[09:52] <glassd> !docx
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about docx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <glassd> awe
[09:52] <mjbrooks> elkbuntu, ummm... perhaps you mistake me for someone else, or had that conversation before I arrived here tonight  ;P
[09:52] <drewbenn> elkbuntu, if I may offer an objective viewpoint, I only saw you say two things that looked like standard comments from a bot..
[09:53] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah: have you checked if the program actually works with wine?
[09:53] <adante> howdy, anybody here familiar with lvm (particularly over raid-0)
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> I bet it doesn't
[09:53] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo_ not sure i follow that ?     there is only one mention of keyboard in my xorg.conf   and i'm just starting xorg and twm  right now for testing purposes    so ???
[09:53] <jussi01> !appdb | NinjaSouljah
[09:53] <ubotu> NinjaSouljah: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:53] <elkbuntu> drewbenn, you werent informed? I am a bot ;)
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> that is why i am going to virtualbox it
[09:53] <jussi01> elkbuntu: LOL
[09:53] <NinjaSouljah> or the other program
[09:54] <drewbenn> cheers elkbuntu :)
[09:54] <drewbenn> !elkbuntu op drewben
[09:54] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah:
[09:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, I should grep my log cause I don't recall him talking before he spoke to me  lol
[09:54] <drewbenn> hmm, worth a shot :)
[09:54] <jussi01> vmware
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> yeah
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> vm
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> virtual machine
[09:54] <elkbuntu> ha
[09:54] <alecwh> how do I find my wifi card?
[09:54] <jussi01> !vmware
[09:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:54] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, you mispelled your own name   lol
[09:54] <LordLimecat> :\ anyone have experience fixing restricted driver manager?
[09:54] <drewbenn> haha :)
[09:54] <NinjaSouljah> well with vmware should i have to install the windows xp software to it?
[09:55] <alecwh> What is the command forgetting the name of my wifi card?
[09:55] <alecwh> for getting*
[09:55] <NinjaSouljah> or create a separate partition with a install of windows?
[09:55] <jmdc> elkbotu, mjbrooks, drewbenn: Today's xkcd comes to mind strongly: www.xkcd.com
[09:55] <Agent_bob> alecwh   lshw   or   lspci
[09:55] <jussi01> NinjaSouljah: you will need to install windows, yes
[09:55] <drewbenn> hehe jmdc you're absoutely right :)
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> but in a separate paritition or can i do it under linux?
[09:56] <Frogzoo_> Agent_bob: sys -> prefs -> keyboard - gnome seems to have its own keyboard layout management, not sure how it interacts with x
[09:56] <jmdc> NinjaSouljah: vmware uses a large file in the host os, not a seperate partition
[09:56] <mjbrooks> jmdc, bwahahaha
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> so i can do it within ubuntu
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> sweet
[09:56] <Agent_bob> Frogzoo_ not sure i follow that ?     there is only one mention of keyboard in my xorg.conf   and i'm just starting xorg and twm  right now for testing purposes    so ???
[09:56] <novato_br> lsakjd
[09:56] <jussi01> !keyboard | Agent_bob
[09:56] <ubotu> Agent_bob: To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:56] <NinjaSouljah> I was running desktop effects with the 3dbox thing it kept freezing my system
[09:56] <jmdc> I'm still not sure if elkbuntu is human.
[09:57] <NinjaSouljah> I guess you have to have a high end video card
[09:57] <Agent_bob> jussi01 please read my post.   no gnome.
[09:57] <elkbuntu> jmdc, :
[09:57] <NinjaSouljah> I have found that many cups of coffee can solve most any problem
[09:57] <jussi01> Agent_bob: sorry, I came only recently...
[09:57] <mjbrooks> jmdc, he's an engineer I believe... so the answer to that question is... no    lol
[09:57] <drewbenn> hey!
[09:57] <Agent_bob> jussi01 np.
[09:58] <mjbrooks> lol
[09:58] <drewbenn> engineers are human. mostly. :)
[09:58] <jussi01> hey you lot, watch it... elkbuntu is a woman.... :P
[09:58] <NinjaSouljah> sometimes they just collect data
[09:58] <mjbrooks> drewbenn, was going for the 2-4-1  ;)
[09:58] <elkbuntu> drewbenn, in a terminator sort of way?
[09:58] <frogzoo> jussi01: dude..
[09:58] <NinjaSouljah> so i wouldn't classify all engineers with the engineer title
[09:58] <drewbenn> :)
[09:59] <amidaniel> Hi all. I'm having some difficulties installing Xilinx ISE Webpack. Getting the error message "Xilinx Port::Process Exec Failed:13
[09:59] <jmg> hi all
[09:59] <amidaniel> Any ideas how to fix this? :)
[09:59] <jmg> dpms keeps blanking my screen :(
[09:59] <jmdc> elkbuntu: no offense meant, btw
[09:59] <jmg> even though i have dpms false in xorg.conf
[09:59] <elkbuntu> jmdc, none taken. meanwhile this is waaaay offtopic :)
[09:59] <mjbrooks> jussi01, that's why I love telling people that I don't gedit, I kate, cause I prefer girls!!  ;)
[09:59] <novato_br> how can I compile the software linux toh windows environment ?
[10:00] <jmg> mjbrooks: :p
[10:00] <mjbrooks> novato_br, can you be more specific?
[10:00] <jussi01> :P
[10:00] <jussi01> anyway, back to topic
[10:00] <jmg> note i have neither a keyboard nor a mouse, i am using lirc
[10:01] <novato_br> i want to compile de openoffice to environment windows
[10:01] <novato_br> is it possible ? and how ?
[10:01] <NinjaSouljah> does anyone know why the touchpad mouse freezes after i switch users?
[10:01] <Agent_bob> cross platform compiling    yes it's possable.
[10:01] <mjbrooks> novato_br, you can download a version of openoffice for windows without needing to compile it
[10:01] <novato_br> mjbrooks, how can I do that?
[10:02] <mjbrooks> novato_br, www.openoffice.org
[10:02] <novato_br> wow, mjbrooks
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> i have this cheap acer 2420 laptop that was dropped on me after my company bounced several checks and laid me off
[10:02] <novato_br> thx
[10:02] <novato_br> i thought that i need to compile
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> anyone want a laptop, cheap I got 2 laptops 6 hp athlon xp desktops 2 touchscreens and a nichipri thermal printer
[10:02] <jmdc> ninjasouljah, I've seen similar weird things happen. I think its related to acpi stuff
[10:02] <NinjaSouljah> I will sell it all for 200 bucks
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> so maybe a bios update or setting will cure
[10:03] <Agent_bob> NinjaSouljah oooh  the "cheap acer"   probably with  "ati everything"   ;/
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> yeah the paperclip one
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> it is a bastarg
[10:03] <mjbrooks> NinjaSouljah, do they run linux?   :P
[10:03] <novato_br> mjbrooks: I thought that I would need to compile it.
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> I have been sucessful with the acer
[10:03] <mjbrooks> novato_br, nope, that's already been done for oyu
[10:03] <NinjaSouljah> I have everything working on it
[10:03] <Agent_bob> NinjaSouljah impathizes...
[10:03] <jmdc> umm ... can we stay on topic
[10:04] <jmdc> maybe sell stuff on ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I had the desktop effects working good until I ran opera or mozilla
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> then it would freeze sometimes
[10:04] <novato_br> cool, that I wouldn't need to compile it
[10:04] <novato_br> hahaaa
[10:04] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, trying to sell things in support channels will get you into trouble
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> although I am a computer technician I wouldn't recommend it to a novice
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I am just kidding
[10:04] <NinjaSouljah> I wouldn't sell it anyway
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> 200 bucks 8 computers
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> lol
[10:05] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, then please cease this discussion
[10:05] <NinjaSouljah> sorry
[10:05] <tuukkis> remember brush your teeth
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> I am just mad at my company that is all
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> they owe me like 1500 dollars
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> and they just dumped all this stuff on me
[10:06] <novato_br> what do you think about linux on asus motherboard?
[10:06] <Agent_bob> you got off cheap.   count your blessings.
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> yep
[10:06] <novato_br> is it good idea or not?
[10:06] <NinjaSouljah> and it works for my computer graveyard since I am a technician
[10:06] <mjbrooks> novato_br, haven't heard of any issues
[10:07] <Agent_bob> novato_br i know nothing particularly bad there.
[10:07] <elkbuntu> NinjaSouljah, this is a technical support channel. please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or another non-support channel
[10:07] <glassd> i have ubuntu on an asus notebook...
[10:07] <tronyx> is there any way to not have an icon appear on your desktop when you automatically mount something?
[10:07] <NinjaSouljah> I like asus I have always liked them ever since the oldskool days
[10:07] <novato_br> mjbrooks, yep, the asus will build in chip with linux
[10:08] <Agent_bob> tronyx i'm sure there is.  in kde you could right click and configure it to not display "device icons"  but i'm not well versed in gnome.
[10:08] <paffcio> i have a quick ubuntu question...
[10:08] <Agent_bob> in fact i don't particularly like gah-no-me
[10:08] <NinjaSouljah> check out some barry brown
[10:08] <mjbrooks> I have a quick unbuntu answer
[10:09] <NinjaSouljah> or some dennis brown
[10:09] <NinjaSouljah> I am out
[10:09] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:09] <novato_br> mjbrooks and Agent_bob look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=589gvghX6QE
[10:09] <Catoptromancy> what was command that print kernel version?
[10:09] <paffcio> in 7.04 which I installed on a DELL inspiron5000e, after a successful Gnome, Kde or XFce session the notebook refuses to shutdown or reboot. Any pointers?
[10:10] <jmdc> catoptromancy: uname --all
[10:10] <mjbrooks> Catoptromancy, uname -r
[10:10] <Catoptromancy> coool
[10:10] <Agent_bob> any reason that this keyboard shouldn't work propperly ???   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/40200     it's  102 key  ps/2  qwerty
[10:11] <allan_> Guys, having a strange problem. I Umount'ed my /media/disk (USB Stick) yesterday, how can i mount it back again?
[10:11] <Agent_bob> Catoptromancy uname    and the switch -r restricts the output to version only.
[10:11] <novato_br> mjbrooks, did you see the video?
[10:11] <Agent_bob> Catoptromancy uname -a    for all kernel info   not that you need -a
[10:12] <paffcio> any suggestions about the failure to shutdown?
[10:12] <drewbenn> novato_br, that must be kde-powered, there are a lot of options (I kid, I kid!).  funny, though :)
[10:12] <jmdc> paffcio: do the logs tell you anything?
[10:13] <Agent_bob> paffcio sudo init 0     see if it works or gives errors
[10:13] <novato_br> drewbenn,  what? sorry, but i didn't understand the joke.
[10:13] <jmdc> paffcio: actually - do what he said
[10:13] <paffcio> ok, I'll try that next time. I'm on the problematic workstation now...
[10:14] <BleedingMoon_> does any1 knows about an assembler for ubuntu?
[10:14] <drewbenn> oh, my bad, I thought it was supposed to be a comedy video :(
[10:14] <paffcio> thanks!
[10:14] <novato_br> but in next future the asus motherboards will bring the linux buil in chip
[10:14] <Agent_bob> you can check the syslog and ksyslog    in /var/log/ paffcio
[10:14] <paffcio> ok
[10:14] <novato_br> no, drewbenn
[10:14] <novato_br> it's real
[10:14] <paffcio> i'm going to look into it now...
[10:14] <BleedingMoon_> and another question, if ill download ubuntu 7.10 today, it wont have to do a mssive changes when it will release
[10:14] <novato_br> it's true
[10:14] <novato_br> boot in 5 seconds
[10:15] <drewbenn> oh, that is pretty cool!
[10:15] <novato_br> looking for on google about this issue
[10:15] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: I would wait a day, myself.
[10:15] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: wait, nevermind. I thought you said 7.04
[10:15] <yigal> 5 s holly cows milk
[10:16] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, is it a non-us?
[10:16] <tkooda> I figured out my issue with the apt ignoring my /etc/apt/secring.gpg :  I was missing a few fields (`apt-ftparchive` didn't add stuff like "Suite:" and "Codename:"?) in my main Release file.
[10:16] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: downloading Fiesty now is just fine, and probably won't have many updates tomorrow
[10:16] <Agent_bob> i have two installations of dapper on one box   i wrote the sysv* for one the other is stock    there is over 30 seconds differance in boot time to a console login.  no X
[10:16] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks no.
[10:16] <drewbenn> oh, wow, it is really cool!
[10:16] <paffcio> Agent_bob: syslog: syslogd 1.4.1#20ubuntu4: restart.
[10:16] <jmdc> bleedingMoon_: I mean gutsy
[10:16] <drewbenn> heh, I'm too used to 3+ min bootups :)
[10:16] <jmdc> I am having issues, typing
[10:16] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, hace you tried  Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
[10:17] <paffcio> Agent_bob: anacron[5316] : Job `cron.daily' terminated
[10:17] <paffcio> Oct 15 19:52:01 komputerek anacron[5316] : Normal exit (1 job run)
[10:17] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, I thought pc102 was no-us
[10:17] <paffcio> it seems like syslog is fine....
[10:17] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i tried  101 102 104   all the same.  didn't try 105
[10:17] <paffcio> nothing unusual, no kernel panics, no crashes...
[10:17] <jmdc> paffcio, what happened when you did init 0?
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> question for anyone who knows
[10:18] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks 102 = non-us ???  i just counted the keys and there are 102 keys on this board.
[10:18] <NeoGeo64> Will gstreamer in Ubuntu 7.10 support MIDI
[10:18] <paffcio> jmdc: actually let me do sudo init 0 now - I'm on the machine that has the problem.
[10:18] <jmdc> !ask NeoGeo64
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask neogeo64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <paffcio> thanks guys for the help! i'm gonna try sudo init 0 thing now... bbl!
[10:19] <NeoGeo64> no one know?
[10:20] <Agent_bob> NeoGeo64 i don't know,   but it seems most sound cards anymore don't support MIDI  you have to emulate it.
[10:21] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: it doesn't look like gstreamer supports midi.
[10:21] <jmdc> but why don't you try googling it?
[10:21] <jmdc> gstreamer has a website you know?
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> why wouldnt it? midi is very old and standard
[10:21] <NeoGeo64> i dont get it
[10:22] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks nope   pc105 same thing.   still have to reset the keyboard to break out of X  i.e. ctrl key not working in X
[10:22] <paffcio> back!
[10:23] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, http://www.xfree86.org/current/XKB-Config.html    might be helpfull  or at least informative
[10:23] <paffcio> sudo init 0 produced the same thing: x server exit and a motherboard freeze up
[10:24] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks looking.
[10:24] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: The gstreamer people are working on other things, I guess. Midis aren't completely unsupported though. You can play them in amarok, I believe.
[10:25] <Agent_bob> paffcio sounds like the "halt" command is sending the "wrong" code to the bios.   is a bios update avalable for your board ?
[10:25] <Ashex> I'm attempting to debug elisa
[10:25] <Ashex> but when I run gdb -args elisa
[10:25] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, better http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/
[10:26] <Ashex> when I type run, it says no executable file found
[10:26] <ChupaChupsa> what is Gutsy?
[10:26] <Ashex> it also says "/usr/bin/elisa": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[10:26] <Ashex> anyone know why it is doing that?
[10:26] <jmdc> NeoGeo64: Maybe this will be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736
[10:26] <paffcio> Agent_bob: not as far as I know. however this was not the casewith Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10. Neither was this a problem with other linux distros. For some reason 7.04 is acting up. Everything else is 100% stble otherwise.
[10:26] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, it is Ubuntu 7.10, the follow-on release to 'Feisty' Ubuntu7.04.
[10:27] <jmdc> ChupaChupsa: gusty is "Gutsy Gibbon"
[10:27] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, perhaps you want "en_US" insteaad of just "us"
[10:27] <ChupaChupsa> each  version every 6 months has a different name???
[10:27] <erUSUL> !midi | NeoGeo64
[10:27] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:27] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks that's a "LOCALS" thang  isn't it ?   should matter on the ctrl key
[10:28] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, there are internal codenames, like (E)dgy, (F)eisty, (G)utsy; the numbers show when they are released, like 2007-04 (April) is 7.4; 2007-10 (October '07) is 7.10.
[10:28] <mikubuntu> i'm in a pickle guys.  which kernel should i install with x?  linux-generic, linux-image-generic, or linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic?
[10:28] <drewbenn> They aim for regular release, about every 6 months.  It is sort of a goal in the software engineering profession to have predictable releases :)
[10:29] <mikubuntu> door number 1, door number 2, or door number 3?
[10:29] <jmdc> ChupaChuupsa: yes, the codenames are of the form <Adjective> <Animal> and tend to be somewhat silly
[10:29] <mikubuntu> please help, i've been trying to get something to run on this laptop for four hours now .. arrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh...
[10:29] <paffcio> Agent_bob: the screen glows in diferent colors when I try to shut down (maybe x server issue?) and then the motherboard is non-responsive.
[10:29] <jmdc> each release is supported ... 18 months?
[10:29] <Agent_bob> mikubuntu it's all the same kernel  and two meta packages
[10:29] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: linux-image-generic
[10:29] <ChupaChupsa> but what if there isn't much to change in Ubuntu, they still release it?
[10:30] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: that package is a meta package that allways depends on the more recent kernel aviable
[10:30] <Agent_bob> paffcio are you sure it's "non-responsive" ?  did you test the magic sysRQ combo's  ?
[10:30] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, it may... from what I'm reading "Users of US keyboards have two options: us for plain vanilla US keys and en_US for a keyboard with a group of interesting additional characters"
[10:30] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa, when they start the next 6-month release, they have a list of features for the next release, some critical (i.e. they would delay the release to ensure those features are included); some low (don't delay the release); many in between.
[10:30] <erUSUL> ChupaChupsa: in the OSS world there is allways to much to change ;)
[10:31] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks no change.  tried both.
[10:31] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa it is a common release ideal... you should read Brooks' Mythical Man-Month if you are still curious :)
[10:31] <mikubuntu> erUSUL: thanks.  new question, is there any telltale signs of a harddrive being broken?  like maybe a clicking sound?  i have been trying for hours to install flux, or xubuntu on this machine and it keeps hanging up at different places, i'm starting to think a hardware prob
[10:31] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, if you were in KDE I'd point you to Kxkb    ;P
[10:31] <paffcio> Agent_bob: even the kbd CAPS LOCK key light refuses to work. No combinations work, only the power button if held down.
[10:31] <FelixCuLpa> clicking noise = harddrive
[10:31] <jmdc> mikubuntu: yes, a clicking sound is BAD
[10:31] <jmdc> "the click of death"
[10:32] <FelixCuLpa> the IBM deathstar click of death
[10:32] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: strange sounds are allways a bad sign...
[10:32] <jmdc> you should back up everything on that disk, ASAP
[10:32] <mikubuntu> nothing on it, not a prob there
[10:32] <drewbenn> heh, raise your hand if you've performed a backup in the last six months....
[10:32] <mjbrooks> and feet
[10:33] <PriitM_> clicking sound may be normal for some drives(hitatci for example)
[10:33] <ChupaChupsa> ok, then tell, me, these changes are 'majot changes' like a change from windows98 to windowsXP? That is, will there be much to reconfigure after each release? or is it just - 'update and go on'?
[10:33] <mikubuntu> but, an error was returned while trying to install the kernel into the target system ... could this be the hard drive causing prob?
[10:33] <ChupaChupsa> *major
[10:33] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: if the drive supports SMART you can try to check the "health" reported by 'sudo smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda | less'
[10:33] <jmdc> well okay ... but a NEW clicking noise is a bad sign
[10:33] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: use the apropiate /dev/file
[10:33] <Agent_bob> paffcio ok.   acpi    that's what you are fighting.   if there isn't an update for the bios  look for patches for the linux end of things   or maybe a work-around,   that's the best i can do for you.    at least you are pointed in the right dirrection.
[10:33] <Micro> Hi - can someone tell me best way to add other desktop backgrounds to use?
[10:34] <jmdc> Micro - just right click and do change desktop background
[10:34] <mjbrooks> when my drives start clicking I back them up then do a drop test... then I know for sure if something is loose
[10:34] <drewbenn> ChupaChupsa I don't know for sure, I haven't lived through one of these upgrades yet!!  I believe that they are supposed to be easy, though.  Theoretically, if you run the upgrade things will continue to work as they did before, "just better."
[10:34] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: if you tell us the exact error maybe we can figure out what's happening
[10:34] <paffcio> Agent_bob: thanks, anything helps. So far ununtu has worked perfectly on it, I'm just hoping not to damage the system by constant power-off by power button...
[10:34] <drewbenn> mjbrooks lol
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> when my harddrive is broken I just wipe it then swap it with someone elses at work
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> theyve got warranties
[10:35] <FelixCuLpa> I dont
[10:35] <PriitM_> Few years ago I downloaded some linux distro with dial-up(56k) and the hard drive what I downloaded it on died. I already had like 60% downloaded.
[10:35] <mjbrooks> ChupaChupsa, it's kinda an update and move on as long as you keep with it... it only becomes major if you skip a few releases
[10:35] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i even removed the keyboard section altogather and it still doesn't let me out of X without the   alt+sysRQ+r   first.
[10:35] <Micro> jmdc - only see three choices after this new install of ubuntu - would like to add others - not sure where to locate them....
[10:35] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, hmmm
[10:36] <mikubuntu> says to check /var/log/syslog or see virtual console 4 for the details, but i don't know how to do that in the middle of an install
[10:36] <ChupaChupsa> mjbrooks: to "keep with it", how much Mb do I download each 6 months?
[10:36] <erUSUL> mikubuntu: Alt + Crtl + Fn (n=1,2,3,*4*)
[10:36] <jmdc> Micro: save pictures somewhere convenient. Then click "add wallpaper"
[10:36] <Agent_bob> paffcio luck with it.    and check the bug reports,  if there isn't one, then make one.
[10:37] <Agent_bob> !bug | paffcio
[10:37] <ubotu> paffcio: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:37] <mjbrooks> ChupaChupsa, through the upgrade manager ~300-400Mb
[10:37] <ChupaChupsa> ok
[10:37] <paffcio> I'll be happy to help out. Thanks.
[10:37] <Micro> jmdc - pics can be put in any folder setup under "Home" ?
[10:37] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, oerhaps you need a new KB   ;)
[10:38] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks but i just changed this one ten minutes ago
[10:38] <jmdc> Micro - that's right. Your home directory is where you should save all your files. Also, many applications store their settings in your home directory. I would probably make a folder in it and store pictures there
[10:38] <mikubuntu> erUSUL: na, nothing happens for me with those keystrokes
[10:38] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:38] <Aviel> hey i got problem
[10:39] <FelixCuLpa> we all have problems
[10:39] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks and "no that's not when the problem started"  lol
[10:39] <Micro> jmdc - thx - new to all this - really like linux though....
[10:39] <Aviel> my system not reconize my network driver
[10:39] <Aviel> what to do?
[10:39] <FelixCuLpa> then how are you on IRC?
[10:39] <jmdc> Micro - if you're coming from windows, the home directory is like your Documents and Settings folder
[10:39] <jmdc> Aviel: is it wireless?
[10:39] <Aviel> nope
[10:40] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks thanks for all the fish tho.    i'll let you get on with your life now.   ;)
[10:40] <jmdc> Aviel: what hardware is it?
[10:40] <Aviel> i have here supermicro server
[10:40] <drewbenn> Micro, are you using 'gnome' or 'Ubuntu' or ... ?  There are programs that will organize your photos for you, and apply tags to them... I have heard (but haven't tried it) that 'F-Spot' is a good one, have you tried it?
[10:40] <Aviel> amd opteron 2214
[10:40] <erUSUL> Aviel: which network chip?
[10:40] <Micro> jmdc - great gives me some - direction - have a long ways to go - but will hang in there
[10:40] <Aviel> Supermicro  AS-1021M-T2+B
[10:40] <jmdc> drewbenn: I've used F-Spot, its cool.
[10:40] <Aviel> MCP55 PRO
[10:40] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, perhaps reconfiguring xorg??
[10:40] <Agent_bob> drewbenn ***'gnome' or 'Ubuntu'***   do you mean   gnome in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <drewbenn> jmdc it's in my applications menu, but I prefer ls and gimp :)
[10:41] <erUSUL> Aviel: lspci | grep -i net
[10:41] <Micro> drewbenn - will google it and check it out - thx
[10:41] <Aviel> SEC
[10:41] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:41] <jmdc> Micro - if you have a lot of photos that you want as backgrounds, I would recommend using Fspot (its in apps,graphics)
[10:41] <drewbenn> agent_bob, trying all variations... as opposed to 'windows' 'apple' 'xp' 'vista' 'kde' etc.
[10:41] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, bit drastic though
[10:41] <FelixCuLpa> how come my graphics card seems sluggish when I have an 8800gts and the drivers installed
[10:41] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks that's different than editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file how ?
[10:41] <Aviel> HMM
[10:41] <dovecothelp>  i have a problem sneding mail to internal users
[10:41] <dovecothelp> can you help me?
[10:42] <Micro> jmdc - just do a " sudo apt-get install f-spot" correct?
[10:42] <Aviel> Bridge: nVidia orporation MCP55 Ethernet
[10:42] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks cause that's where i been making the changes,  in the xorg.conf file...
[10:42] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, its through the magical package manager  :P
[10:42] <Kerzinger> hallo, Ineed some help to get my X-Server to run correct, the problem is: the X-Server fails to start (X Window System Version 7.2.0) this occurs after an update of ubuntu. The error-messages are: Failed to load the NVUDIA kernel modul
[10:42] <dovecothelp> guys please help me
[10:42] <drewbenn> Micro before you do that, if there is an Applications button on the top or botto of the screen, try that, then look for Graphics, then look for F-Spot... is it there?
[10:42] <Aviel> ?
[10:42] <jmdc> Micro: oh, I thought it was installed by default. If not, that should do it.
[10:42] <drewbenn> dovecothelp what program do you use for sending mail?
[10:42] <Aviel> here
[10:42] <Aviel> Bridge: nVidia orporation MCP55 Ethernet
[10:42] <FelixCuLpa> make sure to download the new nvidia packages and delete the old
[10:43] <dovecothelp> postfix+devecot+sieve
[10:43] <Aviel> how?
[10:43] <erUSUL> Aviel: 'sudo modprobe forcedeth'
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> then change your xorg.conf
[10:43] <Aviel> sec
[10:43] <Micro> jmdc - I'll check in synaptics
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> from nv to nvidia
[10:43] <FelixCuLpa> under the device
[10:43] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks heh,   yeah.   but if it  doesn't also change something in /etc/defaults  or something like that,  then it's just a fancy way to edit the xorg.conf   and "yes i have reconfigured several times too"   ...
[10:43] <Aviel> show nothing
[10:43] <jmdc> Micro - well if you do an apt-get install and its installed ... nothing bad happens. It just tells you
 can you help me?
[10:44] <drewbenn> dovecothelp sorry, I have no idea... by 'internal' do you mean a corporate e-mail system?  Do you have a corporate IT department you can consult?   ....   others in this room might be able to help, i can't, sorry :(   also, try google....
[10:44] <erUSUL> Aviel: now 'sudo ifconfig -a'
[10:44] <ksivaji> is there anyone using opendns in ubuntu
[10:44] <Kerzinger> FelixCuLpa do you respond to my question?
[10:44] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, I'm out of ideas at the moment  :^/
[10:44] <Aviel> lo and sit0
[10:44] <erUSUL> Aviel: please when talking to me add my nick in front of the reply
[10:44] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks i've been working on this for several days now.     although not very aggressivly.
[10:44] <benclinch> ksivaji: Yep, easy
[10:44] <Agent_bob> mjbrooks reposting >>> thanks for all the fish tho.    i'll let you get on with your life now.   ;)
[10:44] <dovecothelp> i can send mail to yahoo gmail and other but to root i don't
[10:44] <Aviel> erUSUL: show lo and sit0
[10:44] <mjbrooks> Agent_bob, kk
[10:45] <selig5>  /Kerzinger me
[10:45] <Aviel> erUSUL, show lo and sit0
[10:45] <erUSUL> Aviel: can you post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[10:45] <Aviel> sec
[10:45] <ksivaji> benclinch opendns seems to be slow for me
[10:45] <erUSUL> Aviel: those are virtual interfaces not the "real" ones
[10:45] <Aviel> hmm how i copy thas
[10:45] <Aviel> i know
[10:45] <drewbenn> dovecothelp you're well beyond me, sorry to mislead you.
[10:45] <benclinch> ksivaji: Wherabouts in the world are you?
[10:45] <drewbenn> oops 5 seconds late.
[10:45] <Aviel> its not reconize the real 1
[10:46] <Aviel> i need install some driver?
[10:46] <ksivaji> benclinch india ->chennai
[10:46] <Micro> jmdc - opps - really klutzed up this time - prog there already under "applications/graphics" time to move on - thx.
[10:46] <Kerzinger> selig5 please explain
[10:46] <Aviel> i need install some driver for its reconize my driver?
[10:46] <benclinch> ksivaji: All of the servers seem to be fine, I can't see any reason for it to be slow
[10:47] <Spee_Der> Have a good day folks, I'm off to work again.
[10:47] <Micro> thx 4 all help
[10:47] <selig5> Kerzinger: it works for me
[10:47] <JediMaster> Gutsy out today?
[10:47] <drewbenn> JediMaster -- I wish! 2 more days :(
[10:47] <JediMaster> =(
[10:47] <erUSUL> Aviel: in theory the forcedeth driver (that you already loaded) is the one that runs nvidia ethernet cards
[10:48] <Delphinus> please forgive the n00b question, but whats the difference going to be between the RC and full version of 7.10? Just some updated packages? will an apt-get upgrade from RC be exactly the same as final release?
[10:48] <Kerzinger> selig5 please explain what is working for you
[10:48] <ksivaji> benclinch my dns address  <IP_ADDRESS> ,  <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:48] <selig5> opendns
[10:48] <erUSUL> Aviel: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:48] <Aviel> erUSUL: so why i dont see eth0?
[10:49] <mikubuntu> is an old laptop monitor likely to be crt or lcd?
[10:49] <Aviel> its not ubuntu :P
[10:49] <benclinch> ksivaji: That's correct. Could you try setting the DNS on your router?
[10:49] <selig5> mikubuntu: lcd
[10:49] <ksivaji> benclinch how
[10:50] <ksivaji> benclinch my server address <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:50] <mikubuntu> oops, just selected crt
[10:50] <erUSUL> Aviel: i do not know sorry :( maybe you can try a different kernel image? what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:50] <benclinch> ksivaji: Follow the "Router Instructions" here - https://www.opendns.com/start
[10:50] <liberum> Isn't there a RSS reader out the with a filter funktion? I wan't to see only a few of the news in a feed. The only one i found so far is knewsticker.. but that's not what i'm looking for. I need a big reader where i can see everything at once.
[10:50] <JediMaster> Aviel: this a forcedeth problem on a nvidia motherboard?
[10:50] <ksivaji> benclinch ok
[10:50] <erUSUL> JediMaster: yes
[10:51] <Tomcat_> liberum: liferea has something like that I believe... search folders/virtual folders.
[10:51] <Aviel> supermicro board
[10:51] <JediMaster> Aviel: I had an issue with it working in gutsy, but I fixed it and posted it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/136836
[10:51] <jmdc> Delphinus: don't worry about the level of your question :-) Things that would change at this point are very little. Fixes for showstopping bugs, and thats about it
[10:51] <liberum> Tomcat_: I'll look that up, thanks :)
[10:51] <Aviel> ok
[10:51] <JediMaster> basically: modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0
[10:51] <Delphinus> jmdc: thankyou. so getting RC then apt-get upgrading = same as full release?
[10:52] <jmdc> Delphinus: yes.
[10:52] <Delphinus> jmdc: cheers :D
[10:52] <jmdc> Delphinus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseCandidate
[10:53] <jmdc> The gist of it is, changes at this point delay the release. We don't want that.
[10:54] <drewbenn> jmdc, are you a 'we' that just wants the final release (i.e. user) or 'we' that is working on the final relase (i.e. developer)?
[10:54] <Kerzinger> FelixCuLpa failing of the X-Server seems to occur frequently after updating of ubuntu, how to make the system stable to updates?
[10:55] <Tomcat_> drewbenn: Both. Nobody wants the release delayed... the development rules after freezes are pretty harsh. :)
[10:55] <jmdc> drewbenn: I'm a user. I've fixed a few bugs and such, but basicallyy I'm a user.
[10:56] <tronyx> is there a way to merge an ext3 partition with my root partition so that my total root partition increases in size?
[10:56] <[maTa] > how to rezise LVM partition? acronis 10? gparted?
[10:56] <drewbenn> thanks, just curious :) Your answer implied both! I certainly don't want the release delayed either.... and Tomcat_, I do understand trying to make fixes after a release date, _no_one_ wants that!!!
[10:56] <Tomcat_> tronyx: No way to merge partitions with free tools, sorry. Maybe with commercial software.
[10:57] <jmdc> tronyx: LVM is designed to let you do that, but you have to start out using it from the beginning I believe.
[10:57] <ksivaji> benclinch can you help me to find my router
[10:57] <jmdc> drewbenn: I shouldn't be careless and put on airs like that ;-)
[10:57] <tronyx> so if i have a root partition which is 7 gig on a hard drive which is 40 gig and there is approximately 33 free gigs of ext3 i can't put them together?
[10:57] <CrummyGummy> Hi all,
[10:57] <benclinch> ksivaji: Yep, what make is your router?
[10:58] <drewbenn> jmdc, sorry, I 'understand' from my internal corporate view, certainly nothing on the level of linux!  I've just been the focus of local management :)
[10:58] <RantingHuman> !compiz-fusion
[10:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:58] <ksivaji> benclinch its a router from ISP
[10:58] <CrummyGummy> Is there any command I can use to show the status of all startup scripts?
[10:58] <ksivaji> benclinch http://www.ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
[10:58] <jmdc> tronyx: well, what would it mean to "put them together"? If you write to the root of the filesystem, which partition are your writing to?
[10:58] <CrummyGummy> something like rc-status in gentoo.
[10:59] <benclinch> ksivaji: It's not worth bothering then, just change the DNS on your computer
[10:59] <jmdc> drewbenn: hey if you can get managers to support linux ... I bow to you :-)
[10:59] <ksivaji> benclinch my net gone slow after changing to open dns
[10:59] <jmdc> tronyx: you can however, mount the other partition somewhere.
[10:59] <tronyx> jmdc, when I installed gutsy I decided to just give it a small portion of a second hard drive to hang out on so I could experiment with it.  I've grown to love it but 7 gigs won't cut it.  i was hoping i could use all 40 gigs of the hard drive
[11:00] <tronyx> i'm not terribly familiar with linux file systems, can i move my home directory to another ext3 partition?
[11:01] <benclinch> ksivaji: That's odd, have you restarted your computer?
[11:01] <liberum> Tomcat_: cannot find a filter function int here... i can search in all feeds though...
[11:01] <jhaig> tronyx: How do you mean?  You can create a new partition, and then mount it on /home.
[11:01] <ksivaji> benclinch ya
[11:01] <Tomcat_> liberum: There are virtual folders... like the "Unread" or "Important" folder. I'm not sure if they can filter anything besides those flags though...
[11:01] <Tomcat_> liberum: Wait, I'll install.
[11:02] <benclinch> ksivaji: Very wierd, I honestly have no idea what's wrong then
[11:02] <jhaig> tronyx: Or you could change the path of your home directory, but I don't know why you would want to do that unless you have a lot of users.
[11:02] <tronyx> i might be a little bit lost on that jhaig
[11:02] <_aaa> in Linux, lost passwords can be found how?
[11:02] <liberum> Tomcat_: just found extensions :)
[11:02] <ksivaji> benclinch may be something wrong with my ISP
[11:02] <Tomcat_> liberum: There are "Search Folders"... that should do it for you.
[11:02] <tronyx> well if I keep downloading programs and adding onto my system, won't i eventually fill up the remaining 2.5 gigs of the 7 gigs i designated at the install?
[11:02] <jhaig> tronyx: OK, I've just read your previous comments as well, and it makes more sense now.
[11:02] <Tomcat_> liberum: Just tried it... I can filter out all news items not containing a specific word in the headline, for example.
[11:03] <benclinch> ksivaji: It could be I suppose
[11:03] <ksivaji> benclinch thanks a lot
[11:03] <drewbenn> _aaa, did you write them down and tape them to the bottom of the keyboard, by any chance?
[11:03] <benclinch> ksivaji: Welcome
[11:03] <jhaig> tronyx: So, if I understand correctly, you have partitioned your disk to have 7G for the root partition, and then about 30G unused.  Is this correct?
[11:03] <tronyx> yes jhaig
[11:04] <tronyx> well the 30 gigs was ntfs but it wasn't doing anything so i reformatted it to ext3
[11:04] <jmdc> tronyx: is there anything on the 30 gigs?
[11:04] <ferronica> How can I repair a corrupt iso file?
[11:04] <jhaig> tronyx: OK, then you can create a new partition, copy the files from /home onto the new partition, empty /home and then mount the new partition on /home.
[11:04] <tronyx> no, empty ext3
[11:04] <jhaig> tronyx: Is it already mounted?
[11:04] <jmdc> jhaig: that still wastes a few gigabytes of space though, doesn't it?
[11:04] <tronyx> sudo fdisk -l?
[11:05] <liberum> Tomcat_: Youre right! Big thank you :) I like liferea alot allready.. so many settings
[11:05] <Tomcat_> liberum: Yeah, it's really an awesome but still easy to use RSS reader :)
[11:06] <modumass> hey all, im trying to do a distro update and i get this error http://www.pastebin.org/4952 any ideas?
[11:06] <liberum> Tomcat_: Anyother thing that anoyed me was to not be able to set the individual update time for feeds... i have feeds that updates like once in a month
[11:06] <liberum> so that's great
[11:06] <Tomcat_> liberum: :-)
[11:06] <jhaig> tronyx: Unless you want to change the partitioning, you can just do (something like): sudo cp -a /home/* /media/hda2
[11:06] <equinoxe> slt les gens
[11:07] <jhaig> tronyx: This will depend on how the new partition is mounted.
[11:07] <tronyx> jhaig, could I PM you?
[11:07] <jhaig> tronyx: OK
[11:07] <jmdc> tronyx: I think you should resize the 7 gig partition to take up the whole drive. This has the potential to destroy things. Make backups.
[11:08] <tronyx> oh wait wait
[11:08] <tronyx> i can open gparted and resize the 7 gigs to use the whole drive?
[11:08] <jmdc> tronyx: yes, but it might break things.
[11:09] <jmdc> so, either make backups or ... play fast and loose like I usually do ;-)
[11:09] <benclinch> Hey all, when I boot server edition, how come it comes up with a load of stuff starting _after_ the username prompt? How can I make it do it before? It doesn't affect anything except looks.
[11:09] <tronyx> i think i'll go with the fast and loose =p
[11:09] <jhaig> tronyx: Well, I think you can do that too, but I am an advocate of having a separate /home partition.  Having said that, I have found a bug in the gutsy installer that has problems with this.  :-(
[11:09] <tronyx> it's a new isntall and I don't have a ton on this OS yet, pretty much anything valuable is backed up on another hard drive such as movies, music, pictures, etc
[11:10] <tronyx> i ran into a weird bug with gutsy install too
[11:10] <tronyx> jmdc, if something breaks how soon will i know if it's broken? =X
[11:11] <jmdc> tronyx: most likely right away
[11:11] <tronyx> meh, worst case scenario i need to re-install gutsy and get my themes back
[11:11] <tronyx> that isn't too bad is it?
[11:11] <jmdc> no.
[11:11] <jmdc> it should be fine
[11:11] <jmdc> I'm just covering my ass
[11:11] <tronyx> HAHAHA
[11:12] <jmdc> which is weird, because this is IRC
[11:12] <jhaig> tronyx: The bug I found is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/migration-assistant/+bug/152261  You are only likely to see it, though, if you already have a separate /home partition from a previous install.
[11:12] <Monkeygill> is there a way to restart alsa in ubuntu *without* rebooting?
[11:12] <Monkeygill> ( sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils ain't cutting it)
[11:12] <ferronica> when i burn iso file K3B genrate error burn failure?
[11:12] <Monkeygill> err.. +force-reload or restart
[11:13] <tronyx> jhaig and jmdc I will be thinking on these things but now I believe it's time for bed.  should something go wrong with the resizing I know I wouldn't be able to let it go until the morning
[11:13] <livenicely> hello
[11:13] <tronyx> on a final note, if it isn't too much to ask, why a seperate partition for /home?
[11:13] <jmdc> tronyx: you can nuke the install, and everything magically is still there
[11:13] <livenicely> i have a problem with my fire fox
[11:13] <jhaig> tronyx: So that if you need to completely reinstall for any reason you can format the disk but keep the home partition intact.
[11:14] <jhaig> Unfortunately, the bug I found prevents this in Gutsy  :-(
[11:14] <tronyx> awesome idea
[11:14] <jmdc> tronyx, it is
[11:14] <tronyx> so, if you had 40 gigs of hard drive on a system with a gig of ram and an amd 3400+, how would you allocate that space?
[11:14] <tronyx> and 250gigs of NTFS which is more or less media storage as of now (if that matters)
[11:14] <jhaig> ... and the Feisty installer works, but with a small hack.  (Manually unmounting a partition part way through)
[11:14] <Neatchee> Hey all, I'm having a network problem.  Every 10-15 minutes, I lose connectivity.  My wireless connection isn't going down (signal strength and connection is fine), but I get disconnected from any services (AIM, IRC, etc) and can't make any other connections (no websites load, etc).  Any ideas?
[11:15] <Neatchee> The disconnect only lasts for about 20-30 seconds
[11:15] <tronyx> feisty craps out on me when starting X.  there's some bug with ATI X1000 series video cards
[11:17] <livenicely> any one know any command to tune up ubuntu 7.04
[11:17] <jmdc> livenicely: please be more specific
[11:18] <wwwjek> hello
[11:18] <drewbenn> thanks for the help tonight, guys, have a good evening.
[11:18] <jmdc> tronyx: you could probably leave your root partition at 7 gigs. That gives you more than enough space for any programs you ever install. Its always good to have wiggle room.
[11:18] <tronyx> i guess I keep thinking of the root partition as c:\
[11:19] <jhaig> tronyx: Without the c:
[11:19] <tronyx> LOL so true jhaig
[11:19] <jmdc> :-)
[11:19] <tronyx> incredibly beginner questing incoming *warning*
[11:19] <jhaig> tronyx: Linux doesn't have drive letters.  Everything is mounted in a single directory tree.
[11:19] <wwwjek>
[11:20] <Sound> I'm trying to install 7.04 desktop on a x86. I get the splash screen, then I boot in normal or safe mode, it shows the progress bar and it keeps moving forever. VT1 only shows "Loading..."
[11:20] <tronyx> so if i install a program like deluge or hmmm....anything, a game, media player, etc, it's kept in /home?
[11:20] <livenicely> my ubuntu now contains so much errors and problem like desktop , panel , firefox and many more. it is 2 months old installation. have u know any command to solve these problem i mean check all packages and remove and install like apt-get install -f
[11:20] <jmdc> tronyx: nope
[11:20] <benclinch> Hey all, when I boot server edition, how come it comes up with a load of stuff starting _after_ the username prompt? How can I make it do it before? It doesn't affect anything except how it looks.
[11:20] <jmdc> tronyx: /home is like documents and settings.
[11:20] <jhaig> tronyx: It depends how you install it, but usually no.
[11:20] <Sound> has anyone ideas about my hang described above?
[11:21] <tronyx> so how is 7 gigs enough room?
[11:21] <smmagic> Anyone know why my keyboard freezes on java?
[11:21] <modumass> hey all, i cant do a distro update, i keep getting this error.. http://www.pastebin.org/4954 any help would be awesome
[11:21] <modumass> ive noted what ive done in the link
[11:21] <jmdc> tronyx: the filesystem is all 1 tree. You mount the 7 gigs at the root. Everything uses that 7 gigs. Then you mount everything else at /home. Now /home uses the large partition instead.
[11:22] <jmdc> tronyx: so, the fact that there are multiple partitions is hidden from you.
[11:22] <tronyx> i need to do a lot of googling in the morning...
[11:23] <livenicely> livenicely@DigitalMedia:~$ sudo apt-get install -f
[11:23] <livenicely> Password:
[11:23] <livenicely> Reading package lists... Done
[11:23] <livenicely> Building dependency tree
[11:23] <livenicely> Reading state information... Done
[11:23] <livenicely> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 67 not upgraded.
[11:23] <livenicely> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:23] <livenicely> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:23] <livenicely> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:23] <livenicely> Setting up clvm (2.02.06-2ubuntu9) ...
[11:23] <livenicely> Starting Cluster LVM Daemon clvmd could not connect to cluster manager
[11:23] <livenicely> Consult syslog for more information
[11:23] <livenicely> invoke-rc.d: initscript clvm, action "start" failed.
[11:23] <Sound> use pastebot!
[11:23] <livenicely> dpkg: error processing clvm (--configure):
[11:23] <livenicely>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 3
[11:23] <livenicely> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:23] <livenicely>  clvm
[11:23] <jmdc> livenicely stop!
[11:23] <livenicely> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:23] <benclinch> Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
[11:23] <Sound> livenicely: don't do that again.
[11:23] <jmdc> !pastebot
[11:23] <benclinch> For the love of god, no!
[11:23] <jmdc> ubotu: !paste
[11:24] <jmdc> hmmm, I lose
[11:24] <tronyx> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:24] <livenicely> i am so much disturbed
[11:24] <tronyx> as are we
[11:24] <tomato^> hi all can someone tell help me about cron job?
[11:24] <tronyx> jmdc, jhaig, night and thanks again for your assistance
[11:24] <livenicely> only in 3 hours my normal ubuntu becomes monster
[11:25] <tomato^> e.g. i have a script, andd i want it to run every minute can somone tell me how to o it?
[11:25] <wwwjek>
[11:25] <livenicely> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:26] <bman> hello
[11:27] <tomato^> can someone help me pls?
[11:27] <jmdc> tomato^: try man crontab.
[11:27] <bman> any known issue with gutsy that would cause networking issues?  I am having problems connecting to anything from the GUI without pinging from the command line first
[11:28] <bman> tomato> what kind of help?
[11:28] <LifeSF> i cannot wait till a version of ubuntu works on my laptop
[11:28] <jmdc> LifeSF: what doesn't worK?
[11:28] <LifeSF> it doesn't load lol
[11:28] <LifeSF> liveCD
[11:28] <lbo_> Have a problem, I cant get my network card to work,its a dell optiplex 755, according to novell the fix is to add kernel param newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000", but thats for novell linux. what do I do to get it working with ubuntu?!?
[11:28] <LifeSF> i don't wanna crash it unless i'm sure it'll run properly completely
[11:28] <bman> according to novell?
[11:29] <LifeSF> i've tried 7.04 and 7.10 all updates so far
[11:29] <LifeSF> two linux distros livecds worked but i wanted ubuntu lol... can't wait :)
[11:29] <RantingHuman> !vsync
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <Invert314> woooo
[11:30] <bman> i cant search at all to get my issue, cant connect without pinging a host first for some reason
[11:30] <LifeSF> actually ubuntu doesn't really want to start loading drivers unless i unplug it and when i do it eventually detects a few
[11:30] <LifeSF> then freezes
[11:30] <kane77> does anyone have experience with bluetooth gps devices? do they work in ubuntu?
[11:30] <Invert314> Gutsy > Vista
[11:31] <jmdc> LifeSF - tell us about your hardware.
[11:31] <jessereyj> hello
[11:31] <jessereyj> i would like to inform you about our services if you are interested. we offer affordable prices. please visit our website http://jrjbusinesssolutions.com
[11:31] <jessereyj> thanks a million
[11:32] <Delphinus> any noticible performance enhancements by running 64bit over 32bit?
[11:32] <Midkniht> hrmm
[11:32] <Midkniht> anyone adept at gutsy netowrking issues?
[11:32] <jessereyj> This is a great Business opportunity you wouldn't like to miss!!
[11:33] <Midkniht> someone kick him
[11:33] <jessereyj> sorry
[11:33] <jessereyj> i have to go now
[11:33] <jessereyj> bye
[11:33] <jessereyj> God bless you
[11:33] <MasterShrek> !ops
[11:33] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:33] <LifeSF> oh we can't pm?
[11:34] <LifeSF> hmm well it's a : hp pavilion dv9428ca
[11:34] <AndrewB> !register | LifeSF
[11:34] <ubotu> LifeSF: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:34] <Delphinus> LifeSF: are you a registered user?
[11:34] <lbo_> anyone able to help, on how to get my network card working with ubuntu?
[11:34] <Midkniht> whole bunch of updates just came through
[11:35] <Midkniht> can you ping lbo_?
[11:35] <LifeSF> no...
[11:35] <jmdc> LifeSF - I don't know HPs numbering system. Can you just give us a general sense of it - when did you buy it, etc
[11:35] <LifeSF> about two months ago
[11:35] <modumass> so when is guts going to be supported, i mean the "upgrade distro" button is there, in the update manager
[11:35] <jmdc> new and shiney, eh?
[11:36] <LifeSF> yup, and so far been enjoying learning linux with ubuntu
[11:36] <joelsw> 1080I is nice on linux
[11:36] <lbo_> Midkniht: no, I cant even load it... its a brand new dell computer. only thing I found on google was to add newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000" to kernel param, but thats novell linux... :(
[11:36] <jmdc> LifeSF: I thought it didn't boot?
[11:36] <LifeSF> not on my laptop
[11:36] <jmdc> modumass: the release is in 2 days.
[11:36] <Midkniht> gutsy is supported as of thursday
[11:36] <LifeSF> my pc; it's all fine and better as the releases come
[11:37] <LifeSF> but i can't get it on my laptop
[11:37] <jmdc> LifeSF: oh ok.
[11:37] <kondor101> using ubuntu 7.10 (if that makes any difference), i have a 2nd hdd mounted and working fine.  is it possible to add it to my "Places" pull down menu?  (its currently in a folder called nas2)
[11:37] <Midkniht> lbo_> have you tried to install from the live cd then see if the networking is working
[11:37] <LifeSF> and like i said, i don't wanna crash the lap unless i'm positive it'll do what i want lol
[11:38] <Midkniht> kondor101> right click on the folder in nautilus to add to places
[11:38] <lbo_> Midkniht: livecd doesnt detect the network card, thats the problem
[11:38] <jmdc> kondor101> sometimes its called a bookmark
[11:38] <Midkniht> thats what i mean it may be detected after install, live may not get it
[11:39] <Midkniht> 52 updates just came through
[11:39] <Midkniht> update first
[11:39] <Midkniht> irc.stonedworld.net
[11:39] <Midkniht> eww
[11:39] <Midkniht> err
[11:39] <Midkniht> sorry
[11:39] <LifeSF> is midkniht talking to me? i easily get lost
[11:40] <Midkniht> nope not you lifesf but its cool if it applies to you too
[11:40] <Midkniht> heh
[11:40] <LifeSF> i don't have scripts on my itc
[11:40] <LifeSF> lol
[11:40] <kondor101> midkniht  got it, i opened the folder and added a bookmark.  thanks so much
[11:40] <LifeSF> nah just thought you were mentioning to install ubuntu to test out it's full install
[11:40] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[11:41] <LifeSF> but like i'm saying i love the livecd since it for sure points out what will for sure work and all
[11:41] <lbo_> midkniht: no, I installed ubuntu, and still cant find the netcard
[11:41] <Midkniht> damn
[11:41] <Midkniht> hrmm
[11:41] <Midkniht> in a optiplex?
[11:41] <Midkniht> works on mine from live
[11:41] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[11:41] <wikipedia> gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[11:41] <Midkniht> maybe your onboard card is bad
[11:41] <lbo_> midkniht yeah, optiplex 755
[11:42] <AndrewB> !ops | wikipedia
[11:42] <ubotu> wikipedia: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:42] <tomato^> my cron jobs wont work can someone help me
[11:42] <lbo_> midkniht: network card works great, no problems with it, its becourse its a new computer and its a new network card
[11:42] <tomato^> here's what my crontab -e content
[11:42] <lbo_> midkniht: only linux that has a problem
[11:43] <tomato^> m     h  dom mon dow   command
[11:43] <Midkniht> lbo_ check dell support on it?
[11:43] <tomato^> 01    *   *   *   *   /home/unison/cron/mysql
[11:43] <Keypad> Does any one have experience with setting my linux box as a wifi point for my laptop ? Ive got my wifi drivers installed. I just need some help
[11:43] <lbo_> midkniht: dell doesnt support linux
[11:43] <Midkniht> i cant digg at the moemnt because i have no reliable networking in gutsy
[11:43] <Midkniht> heh
[11:44] <nekcaikas> i wonder if i should begin work using ubuntu on my macbook (dual with os x)
[11:44] <nekcaikas> or shall i just leave it as it is..
[11:44] <abhibera> can anyone help me with pkg-config? i messed it up totally
[11:44] <abhibera> !pkg-config
[11:44] <nanonyme> abhibera, erm, what did you do?
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <LifeSF> jmdc: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01071123&lc=en&cc=ca&dlc=en&product=3446408&rule=29967&lang=en
[11:44] <MasterShrek> !dpkg-reconfigure
[11:45] <Oli``> How can I change the minimum lengths for user passwords?
[11:45] <kane77> does anyone have experience with bluetooth gps devices? do they work in ubuntu?
[11:46] <Midkniht> bluetooth works, dont know on gps
[11:46] <Midkniht> i use a audio gateway and a headphone set
[11:46] <abhibera> nanonyme: i was cross compiling some packages and now my pkg-config points to my toolchain library instead of my local machine library
[11:46] <tomato^> where does logs of crontab located on ubuntu?
[11:47] <Midkniht> /var/log
[11:47] <tomato^> i cant find it under /var/log
[11:47] <abhibera> nanonyme: now when i do a pkg-config --cflags <package> it points to my toolchain directory
[11:47] <abhibera> nanonyme: how do i get it back?
[11:47] <abhibera> !pkg-config
[11:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Midkniht> tomato^> /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd
[11:48] <Midkniht> /etc/cron.weekly/sysklogd
[11:49] <Midkniht> !google
[11:49] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[11:49] <M_WS> I just removed everything to do with windows and installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop. Everything's ok but I can't get my wireless card to connect to a network. And when i plugin an internet cable, it says it's connected, but there's no activity.
[11:49] <jussi01> !wifi | M_WS
[11:49] <ubotu> M_WS: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <tomato^> can some one tell me where the logfiles of crontab located?
[11:50] <M_WS> thanks
[11:50] <Midkniht> M_WS > click the icon that looks like two teminals overlapped in the status bar
[11:50] <cidwel> hi all
[11:50] <Midkniht> should list wireless netwroks
[11:50] <jmdc> LifeSF: make sure you are using the 64 bit edition
[11:50] <LifeSF> yes lol
[11:50] <Midkniht> tomato> I told you where it was
[11:51] <nanonyme> abhibera, no idea, i'd cross-compile under a chroot to avoid messing up my installation
[11:51] <abhibera> nanonyme: what's a chroot?
[11:51] <cidwel> there is a way to make the openoffice writter to put by default the alignment of the entire page centered like word and not at the left side? >_<
[11:51] <Midkniht> chroot lets you mount another root filesystem under linux
[11:52] <nanonyme> midkniht, or to another location on the same filesystem
[11:52] <Midkniht> ruite
[11:52] <nanonyme> abhibera, you can have an ubuntu inside an ubuntu
[11:52] <SALE> good question cidwel. I'd like the answer as well :D
[11:52] <cidwel> doh :S
[11:53] <Midkniht> where is my joint at
[11:53] <Midkniht> damnit
[11:53] <Midkniht> need it
[11:53] <Midkniht> found it woo!
[11:53] <abhibera> nanonyme: huh!??!?!?!? u mean XNEST?
[11:54] <Midkniht> nope
[11:54] <Midkniht> its for setting "/" root to somewhere else
[11:55] <varka> Oli``: /etc/pam.d/common-password
[11:56] <nanonyme> abhibera, i mean like you have an ubuntu installation in like /fs/ubuntu, then you do chroot /fs/ubuntu /bin/bash and use that environment normally. the best you can do is break the chrooted ubuntu linking
[11:58] <Keypad2> Can some one please help me setup my ubuntu box as a wifi point ???
[11:58] <Keypad2> Ive been trying for hours
[11:58] <SALE> did anyone managed to install patch fow ipw2200 wifi card for packet injecting? I tried but i just can't get any ARP requests :-(
[11:58] <Midkniht> well slow down take a break, smoke a joint and relax
[11:58] <RantingHuman> Is there a way to force vsync on? Nvidia and Gutsy RC being used.
[11:59] <G_Washington> what is the open source license type that allows commercial and closed source derivations?
[12:00] <Keypad2> Can any one help me with my wifi problems ?
[12:00] <Ayabara> any compiz-users here? how can I make the expos-stuff work? f10,f11 and f12 doesn't do anything for me
[12:00] <Midkniht> G_Washington > BSD license allows that
[12:00] <atika> Hai ,aku atika siapa namakamu ?aku pingin kenalan .
[12:01] <Keypad2> I got my drivers installed, I just cant get it to share the internet with firestarter
[12:01] <SALE> english please atika!
[12:01] <Midkniht> new kernel in todays updates, you should update before asking gutsy questions
[12:01] <M_WS> I often get (13 permission denied) - how do I create root permissons on my user?
[12:01] <atika> Ok,whats your name ?
[12:02] <Midkniht> M_WS? wjat do u mean?
[12:02] <M_WS> Midkniht - I get things like "Cold not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists..." when I try things in the terminal window
[12:03] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, do you have the compiz settings manager installed?
[12:03] <Midkniht> M_WS> use "sudo" before the command
[12:03] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: yep
[12:03] <Keypad2> I guess all the cool people that normaly help me our are busy / sleeping
[12:03] <atika> I'm women,and you?
[12:03] <Midkniht> keypad2> no offense I could help you but my networking isnt allowing me to search google at the moment
[12:04] <Midkniht> atika! atika! atika!
[12:04] <Keypad2> But your Irc works ?
[12:04] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, And enabled expo, etc? Then, try super key + e. (windows button + e)
[12:04] <rasta> I am having a slight issue with resolution.  Despite all my efforts i cannot find anything on how to fix it.  My screen reso will only go to 800x600.  I edited the xorg.conf and tried a few other things.  Anyone care to help?
[12:04] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: that works fine
[12:04] <Midkniht> yeah its fuked up i can do msot things from the terminal if i ping the host first but nothing works from the gui
[12:05] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: but the other ones I think exist (show all windows from an application, show all windows) aren't there
[12:05] <Midkniht> rasta> run " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" then try to kill X and retry
[12:05] <lbo_> Can anyone help getting my network card to work in ubuntu linux? Optiplex 755, novell linux needs kernel param newid="0x8086 0x10bd,e1000", what does ubuntu needs?!?
[12:06] <M_WS> midkniht: when I do $sudo make uninstall - There's another persmisson denied. how do i change that?
[12:06] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: I'm looking at the "Default Key Bindings" stuff on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/ConfiguringCompiz
[12:06] <Midkniht> lbo_> have you tried ubuntu with those same params?
[12:06] <rasta> thanks Midkniht. Ill try that.
[12:06] <Midkniht> M_WS> what are you trying to make uninstall on?
[12:06] <Coremonkey22> anyone awake?
[12:06] <Coremonkey22> tighttttt
[12:06] <lbo_> midkniht: yeah, there isnt anything called newid to grup
[12:06] <Midkniht> hrmm
[12:07] <Midkniht> as soon as i can get networking rite again i can search
[12:07] <M_WS> midkniht: Im trying to install ndiswrapper according to the thing here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[12:07] <lbo_> midknight: I presume I have to add something to "modprobe e1000"
[12:07] <Coremonkey22> So check this, Im running vista, and i install virtual pc 2007, install unbuntu 7.04 get everything running.....then i reboot the virtual machine, now my sound and my wireless doesnt work....odd? any help? :]
[12:07] <Midkniht> M_WS> if you installing it then why are you doing make uninstall?
[12:08] <Midkniht> virtualpc doesnt support ubuntu
[12:08] <M_WS> I'm merely doing what it tells me ;)
[12:08] <RantingHuman> Ayabara, Sorry, I don't think I know enough to help :)
[12:08] <rasta> Should I need to restart Midkniht?
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> but it was working?
[12:08] <Ayabara> RantingHuman: thanks for trying :-)
[12:08] <Midkniht> rasta> a ctrl-alt-backspace should do it
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> and i have ubuntu running in vpc
[12:08] <Coremonkey22> =\
[12:08] <Midkniht> may need to reboot though
[12:09] <Midkniht> i didnt say it wouldnt run, just not supported in virtual pc, microsof prolly does something to break it
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> rofl
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> its just wierd how i had it running for a bit then as soon as i rebooted shit went donkey kong on me
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:09] <Midkniht> tried vmware?
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> vmware costs $$$
[12:09] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:09] <Midkniht> not if you have ur image already
[12:10] <Midkniht> vmware player is free
[12:10] <Crozar> problems with app's is theyr dont tell you how to install the stuff with it
[12:10] <SlimG> Petition against OOXML: http://www.noooxml.org
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> where could i get an image?
[12:10] <Crozar> guys how to installplugins for kopete ?
[12:10] <Midkniht> there are downloadable images all over
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> or u talkin bout the ubuntu image
[12:10] <Ayabara> Coremonkey22: VMware server is free as well, I think
[12:10] <lbo_> sudo bash
[12:10] <Midkniht> ubuntu vm
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> so jus go find a vmware image?
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> gotcha
[12:10] <nrdb> Coremonkey22: there is vmware-player
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> right
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> players free?
[12:10] <Midkniht> yep
[12:10] <Ayabara> Coremonkey22: on the VMware site you have lotsa Appliances you can download
[12:10] <Crozar> Coremonkey22: get virtualbox !virtualbox
[12:10] <Coremonkey22> nifty, so i jus gotta find a vmware image of ubuntu
[12:10] <Crozar> !virtualbox
[12:10] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> cool
[12:11] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[12:11] <Midkniht> !google vmware ubuntu
[12:11] <Midkniht> damnit
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> thanks for all the help guys <3
[12:11] <Midkniht> no search
[12:11] <Crozar> Coremonkey22: you want to use windows and vmware ubuntu ? LooooL
[12:11] <Midkniht> heh
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> :P
[12:11] <Ayabara> VMware server is also free and enables you to make your own image
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> not me, room mate
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> lol
[12:11] <Crozar> omG
[12:11] <xloler> hello
[12:11] <Coremonkey22> im dual booting ubuntu and xp
[12:11] <Crozar> i removed XP to the trash
[12:11] <smmagic> Is virtualbox good?
[12:11] <xloler> is search a german user ;D
[12:11] <xloler> I
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> ew vista
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> yuckkkk
[12:12] <Crozar> and sold the cd key for cheap + a bonus CD on a slick case called ubuntu with a letter of why the key is cheap
[12:12] <Stevethe1irate> d
[12:12] <Airwulf> when I add "neugebau        ALL = /sbin/lbst/ldap/courseshow" to /etc/sudoers. why must user neugebau enter root passwort when calling 'sudo <cmd>'?
[12:12] <Stevethe1irate> y0
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> id use ubu 24/7 but i still have some win apps i need to run
[12:12] <Coremonkey22> unless theres opensource virtualization for ubuntu?
[12:12] <smmagic> I think virtualbox
[12:12] <Midkniht> gutsy updates almost finished for the day ! woo!
[12:12] <xloler> ist hier ein deutscher?
[12:12] <xloler> ich mchte meine festplatte partitionieren, kann mir jemand eine anleitung schiccken
[12:13] <nanonyme> !de
[12:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:13] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete plugins , i dont see a plugins folder in usr/shares/kopete and i dont see 1 in home folder
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> is virtualbox win based or lin?
[12:13] <Gin> Coremonkey22, try virtualbox or vmware
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> going to do that :]
[12:13] <Midkniht> virtualbox is for everything
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> *_*
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> hott
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> off to google land i go
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> :]
[12:13] <Stevethe1irate> my X is screwed since i took out my nv 7600 gtx, using onbaord for now... I've tried dpkg-reconfiguring.. but to no avail...
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> have a good night/morning gents
[12:13] <Stevethe1irate> !qemu | Coremonkey22
[12:13] <ubotu> Coremonkey22: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[12:13] <Midkniht> Steve> whats it do?
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> wow
[12:13] <Coremonkey22> so many lol
[12:14] <nrdb> Coremonkey22: have a look at Xen
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> k so xen, qemu, virtualbox, vmware
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> any others i should know about ;)
[12:14] <Midkniht> those are the major ones
[12:14] <M_WS> How can I check the Charset on my Ubuntu?
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> :]  thx sir
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> enjoy ur bowl friend
[12:14] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: it like looks like its changing resolution.. then it phails.. .and i get an error message saying "X-server has been shutdown, try again in 2 mins"
[12:14] <Midkniht> virtual pc if you get the version before connectix sold it
[12:14] <Midkniht> heh
[12:14] <Coremonkey22> i wish it was still connectix owned
[12:15] <Midkniht> me too
[12:15] <Coremonkey22> fkin monoposoft
[12:15] <Midkniht> i liked it
[12:15] <Stevethe1irate> .. back to X issues :P ....
[12:15] <presto1> should i be able to acsess my ntfe external hdd while im testing my live cd
[12:15] <Coremonkey22> btw, when 7.1 comes out, they have any plans to support widescreen resolutions?
[12:15] <presto1> ntfs
[12:15] <Stevethe1irate> presto1: not by default.
[12:15] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete additional plugins??? anybody
[12:15] <smmagic> Can you install a virtual machine with a upgrade disc?
[12:16] <Midkniht> whats a upgrade disc?
[12:16] <smmagic> Windows upgrade disc
[12:16] <Coremonkey22> no
[12:16] <Stevethe1irate> no\
[12:16] <Midkniht> Steve>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg didnt work?
[12:16] <smmagic> Dang..
[12:16] <Coremonkey22> smmagic u got a cd key?
[12:16] <Midkniht> umm linux support
[12:16] <eulogy_> Coremonkey22, I'm running the 7.10 RC on Widescreen and it looks perfect. It does have better resolution support than 7.04
[12:16] <Midkniht> not winderz
[12:16] <smmagic> Yes
[12:16] <Stevethe1irate> No, chose 'intel' as drivers.. failed, tried vesa, also failed
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> then im sure u can find an image of full version somewhere
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> just look around ;)
[12:17] <Crozar> guys how to install kopete additional plugins??? anybody
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> really? thanks eulogy :]
[12:17] <Stevethe1irate> will.. with 'intel' drivers, it loaded.. but like crashed when i logged in
[12:17] <eulogy_> No problem.
[12:17] <presto1> stevethe1irate how hard is it to set up
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> mines a lil blotchy =[
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> nothin too terrible
[12:17] <smmagic> Anyone know a windows xp full image? :D
[12:17] <eulogy_> Yes I had the same problem in 7.04
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> is RC a beta?
[12:17] <Coremonkey22> i didnt think 7.10 was out
[12:18] <Midkniht> 7.10 is out on thrusday
[12:18] <M_WS> Where do I check my default charset in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <eulogy_> RC is a release candidate.
[12:18] <Stevethe1irate> presto1: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && sudo nano /etc/fstab [then add the line to it]  then sudo mount -a
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> lucky bastard :P
[12:18] <eulogy_> Alpha -> Beta -> RC
[12:18] <smmagic> No one has a windows xp image?
[12:18] <presto1> ah ok
[12:18] <Coremonkey22> smmagic: torrents :]
[12:18] <Stevethe1irate> smmagic: i do.. want me to ssh? :P
[12:18] <smmagic> Torrents..
[12:18] <smmagic> So slow
[12:18] <smmagic> If you can steve
[12:18] <Midkniht> smmagic> this is not a warez channel or windows support channel
[12:18] <eulogy_> Demonoid.
[12:18] <smmagic> K then
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> !warez | smmagic
[12:19] <ubotu> smmagic: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> liek i said, google
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: like, X loads with 'intel' drivers... but when i log in, it hangs then crashes....
[12:19] <Midkniht> hrmm
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> please Midkniht .. got liek a project due in < 38 mins
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> how many changes are in 7.1 eulogy
[12:19] <Midkniht> thinking
[12:19] <Coremonkey22> anything drastic?
[12:19] <Stevethe1irate> should i put 'intel' back
[12:20] <Midkniht> after you did the reconfigure did you kill X?
[12:20] <Midkniht> ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:20] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: no.. /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:20] <Stevethe1irate> oO.. my nick is wrong.. lol
[12:20] <Midkniht> i think i had to reboot to get it off the nvidia drivers and back to on board video
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> Midkniht: done that as well
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> [since that]
[12:21] <Coremonkey22> eulogy_: any drastic changes in 7.10?
[12:21] <Midkniht> i did the reconfigure then reboot and that was it
[12:21] <Midkniht> sorry cant help more
[12:21] <eulogy_> Drastic? Yes I believe so. Compiz Fusion comes built in.
[12:21] <Stevethe1irate> okay. let me fix
[12:21] <eulogy_> Like Beryl with Mepis.
[12:21] <Midkniht> lots of drastic changes in gutsy
[12:22] <Stevethe1irate> [back to intel]
[12:22] <Coremonkey22> changelog anywhere?
[12:22] <eulogy_> Yea let me link you.
[12:22] <Coremonkey22> preciated :)
[12:22] <Midkniht> woo updates installed
[12:22] <Midkniht> rebooting
[12:22] <Midkniht> brb
[12:23] <eulogy_> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc
[12:23] <Coremonkey22> ty sir
[12:23] <eulogy_> Quite welcome.
[12:23] <Coremonkey22> *high five* for all ur help :)
[12:23] <eulogy_> ^^
[12:24] <M_WS> I like to recode a .reg file, where do I check my default charset in Ubuntu 7.04?
[12:24] <thesaint4444> hi guys, anyone know how to make a bookmark for a command like ssh in konsole? sick of typing it in every time.....
[12:24] <de-pe> hio
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> You might be a nerd if: You've been playing with ur computer for 15 hours straight.
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> -_-
[12:24] <Coremonkey22> actually, longer than that =\
[12:24] <Stevethe1irate> Sighs.. okay.. my Xserver login screen loads.. i put my username and password.. then X hangs .. then reboots...
[12:24] <kyja> daily
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> I started messin around on here around 3pm yesterday, its now 7am
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> lmfao
[12:25] <eulogy_> Christ man.
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: like ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> yeah
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> ive got a problem
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> =[
[12:25] <_awk_> /quit
[12:25] <eulogy_> Steve, what card are you running?
[12:25] <_awk_> :)
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> im a web developer/sys admin though
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> intel onboard
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> gotta keep on top of stuff
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> -_-
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> startin to learn ruby on rails
[12:25] <Stevethe1irate> i had a 7600gtx.. but was having heat issues.. so took that out...
[12:25] <Coremonkey22> so that took a good chunk of my day
[12:25] <de-pe> what?
[12:26] <eulogy_> Ah man I'm not sure what to tell you. Sorry mate.
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> eulogy_: huhs?
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> if you guys havent heard of it yet, id HIGHLY suggest looking into it
[12:26] <de-pe> hi bottiger?
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> ruby on rails?, Coremonkey22 ?
[12:26] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: yes.. just like that...
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> www.rubyonrails.org
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> its like
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> on the fly coding
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> its INSANE
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> Coremonkey22: python > **
[12:26] <Stevethe1irate> gtf0
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> so much faster and easier than php
[12:26] <Coremonkey22> or asp for that matter
[12:27] <Coremonkey22> AJAX ftw
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: : pico ~/ssh.sh
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then add "ssh username@server"
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> save the file
[12:27] <Coremonkey22> u know what i <3 about ubuntu
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then "chmod 777 ssh.sh"
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> then you can ./ssh.sh
[12:27] <Stevethe1irate> to connect
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> i was compiling all the apache packages today and installing php and mysql
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> and it all just connected itself
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> automatically
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> Good OSes do that though Coremonkey22 ....
[12:28] <Lunz> malaysia locoteam is already exist but not active and seems dead..what should i do?
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> :-P
[12:28] <eulogy_> I switched to Ubuntu because I hate Windows.
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> and this pidgin app is pretty neat too
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> I have windows still.. just for gaming..
[12:28] <poesty> DASD
[12:28] <Stevethe1irate> and DC++
[12:28] <eulogy_> I use cedega for gaming on Ubuntu.
[12:28] <Coremonkey22> whenever someone says my nick, it highlights their name
[12:29] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: so add the command into the file and then run the file as a shell script?
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> Coremonkey22: most irc clients do that.....
[12:29] <poesty> HI BETUL
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> not mirc :-P
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: basically.
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> You can make mirc
[12:29] <poesty> I DONT UNDERSTAND?
[12:29] <eulogy_> Xchat does it for you.
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> yeah i agree
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> xchat is pretty pimp
[12:29] <poesty> HOW
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> as a script... .replace('Steve','/bSteve'
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> or something
[12:29] <Lunz> irssi is better
[12:29] <wizo> irssi and mirc can do that too Coremonkey22
[12:29] <poesty> JSIFH
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> easy on the caps bro lol
[12:29] <Stevethe1irate> xchat is for chinese people :P
[12:29] <Coremonkey22> really?
[12:29] <eulogy_> I'm not sure what you're talking about poesty.
[12:30] <poesty> HI CAREMONKEY 22
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> ....hi
[12:30] <Lunz> why so many caps?
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> Attention :)
[12:30] <wizo> Coremonkey22, i'm using mirc and i've done mine so when someone says my name it highlights the line
[12:30] <eulogy_> Caps key broken.
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> caps lock key is 1/4" from ur pinky
[12:30] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: ok, but there is also some inbuilt functionality in Konsole that lets you save your commands and 'bookmark' them i just cant remember how to do it...
[12:30] <Coremonkey22> wizo: i guess im just not very explorative huh :P
[12:30] <Lr5> Umm, shouldn't java plugin used by firefox be ns7-gcc29, not ns7?
[12:31] <wizo> what you said is in green :p
[12:31] <Lr5> It currently is ns7
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> =D
[12:31] <eulogy_> Oh man. Dude. Knowing the exact measurement the caps lock key is from your pinky is worse than playing for 15 hours straight.
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> maddock
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> :)
[12:31] <wizo> lol
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> maddox*
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> yeah, id say im tired
[12:31] <Coremonkey22> never read maddox before eulogy?
[12:32] <eulogy_> Never.
[12:32] <eulogy_> Any good?
[12:32] <Stevethe1irate> thesaint4444: sigh.. dunno.. i use like, true konsole console.. like.. no copy paste even. [atm]
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> You should invest your time, its quite hilarious
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> one sec ill link ya
[12:32] <eulogy_> Preciate it.
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> http://maddox.xmission.com/
[12:32] <Coremonkey22> Quite welcome ;)
[12:33] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: true konsole? what is that?
[12:33] <eulogy_> Thank you.
[12:34] <Coremonkey22> OH WOW! Desktop effects in 7.10, im psyched.  More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> WOOOOOOOOOO
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO LET US WRITE TO NTFS PARTS?
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> hottttt
[12:38] <eulogy_> You need sleep dude.
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> sorry for the caps :(
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> yeah
[12:38] <eulogy_> Haha
[12:38] <adante> IdleOne: thanks, yes i've obtained a passing familiarity with the system, i have opened up all the repositories and the backport, but i'm still finding this stuff is a little out of date
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> I think i'm going to rid the room of my stupidity
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> :)
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> and catch some Z'zzzzz
[12:38] <adante> IdleOne: i was more looking for recommendations on repositories, if anybody had any
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> I'll be around tomorrow ish <3
[12:38] <Coremonkey22> ya know, 5 pm
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> or so
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> ;)
[12:39] <adante> er, specific repositories that is
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> take care eulogy
[12:39] <eulogy_> Alright take it easy man.
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> read that maddox stuff
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> its good material
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> =]
[12:39] <eulogy_> Will do
[12:39] <eulogy_> Already am
[12:39] <Coremonkey22> take care sir
[12:39] <eulogy_> You too
[12:39] <liberum> Anyone knows how to mount a truecrypt volume without write protection? The -u parameter doesn't do it for me
[12:39] <Coremonk22> yahhhh
[12:39] <lbo_> will, ubuntu 7.10 come with kernel 2.6.22+ ?
[12:39] <Coremonk22> right
[12:39] <Coremonk22> i give up
[12:40] <Coremonk22> night :P
[12:40] <eulogy_> Lol.
[12:40] <eulogy_> These are the current notes lbo, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/710rc.
[12:40] <Tomcat_> lbo_: Yes, 2.6.22.
[12:41] <lbo_> Tomcat_: so it will support my intel 82566DM-2 nic?
[12:41] <M_WS> I do "$cd ndiswrapper-1.42" then "$sudo make install" then when i type "$sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf" - it says "ndiswrapper: command not found" - what am i doign wrong?
[12:41] <newubuntu> Hellllooooo
[12:41] <newubuntu> everyone out there
[12:41] <dA_ShArP> hi all, I have a bluetooth enabled Phone with which I take photographs. Now when I try to send those photos from my mobile via bluetooth.... my mobile detects my computer but when I send it it shows sending failed :(
[12:42] <adante> for instance, i need the latest version of git - is it possible to get this from apt or do i need to compile it myself?
[12:42] <Tomcat_> lbo_: If there's a driver for it? Better check with a LiveCD.
[12:42] <thesaint4444> Stevethe1irate: thanks...
[12:42] <opexoc> Why when I uswe printenv then I wont get every variable in my environment. The proof is execute of this command: echo ${!H*}. I get many variables which are not located in printenv.
[12:43] <M_WS> ...and I get loads of errrors and warnings when i $sudo make install ndiswrapper
[12:43] <lbo_> Tomcat_: I know fedora 7 has support for it... and novell linux, I just wonder if ubuntu has?!?
[12:44] <newubuntu> Hellloo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs automatically mounted on my Desktop of buntu 7.04...Instead Ihave to go to /media/adrom to browse my files...I would rally appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:45] <LifeSF> JMDC is GREAT HELP just wanted to point that out,... not for people to spam him,... but i give that guy a star :)
[12:45] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hey everyone. any israelies in this channel?
[12:45] <LifeSF> good night / day everyone
[12:45] <eulogy_> Good night Life
[12:46] <newubuntu> Helllo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs automatically mounted on my Desktop of Ubuntu 7.04...Instead I have to go to /media/cdrom to browse my files...I would rally appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:47] <M_WS> I do "$cd ndiswrapper-1.42" then "$sudo make install" then when i type "$sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/.driver/wifi/DRIVER/bcmwl5.inf" - it says "ndiswrapper: command not found" - what am i doign wrong?and I get loads of errrors and warnings when i $sudo make install ndiswrapper. I try to follow the instructions stated here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390
[12:47] <IdleOne> adante: to check versions of software that come with ubuntu check out http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul?
[12:48] <IdleOne> M_WS: have you installed build-essential?
[12:48] <M_WS> IdleOne - I dont think I have. the only thing i have here is Ubuntu installed from the CD
[12:48] <newubuntu> Helllo..I am facing a problem..I dont get my DVDs(Data + Multimedia) automatically mounted on my Desktop of Ubuntu 7.04...Instead I have to go to /media/cdrom to browse my files...I would really appreciate if some one can help me????????????
[12:49] <M_WS> 7.04
[12:49] <adante> IdleOne: ok so git 1.5 does not seem to exist in official packages, i mean are there other repositories out there which would have this? how do i find them? or what do people do when they decide they want this and it's not available? just build themselves? do they do this for every program?
[12:49] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul?
[12:49] <IdleOne> M_WS: ok sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:49] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> I've tried using recordmydektop but i get an error.
[12:49] <IdleOne> M_WS: then try your sudo make install command
[12:49] <Crozar> newubuntu: wait for ubuntu 7.10 comming out in 46 hours
[12:50] <IdleOne> adante: launchpad.net does have a section for users who create they're own packages
[12:50] <smmagic> On the beryl website which tar do I download?
[12:50] <Crozar> smmagic: you want to get beryL?
[12:50] <smmagic> Yes
[12:50] <eulogy_> I'd wait for 7.10, it has compiz-fusion built in.
[12:51] <Crozar> smmagic: ( compiz fusion is the extended project ) means its beryl but updated and now its name is compiz
[12:51] <M_WS> will try now, thanks idleone
[12:51] <smmagic> So which do I download?
[12:51] <eulogy_> What Crozar said :)
 newubuntu: wait for ubuntu 7.10 comming out in 46 hours << Why wait?
[12:52] <Oli``> It's pretty damned stable
[12:52] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Hello, could someone tell me of a way to record image and sound with Istanbul? (ubuntu 7.04)
[12:52] <newubuntu> Crozar: What is the guarantee that this will not happen in Ubuntu 7.10???
[12:52] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> I've tried using recordmydektop but i get an error.
[12:52] <Crozar> smmagic: wait for 7.10 its comming out in 46 hours , and download that from www.ubuntu.com it will tell you a tutorial how toupdate from 7.03 ...... the new ubuntu version 7.10 gutsy has Compiz ( beryl ) built in stabled and with support
[12:52] <app_> How do I set the umask so that it affect also GUI components, Firefox etc. not only Bash?
[12:52] <app_> I don't see umask in User privileges in the Users GUI tool.
[12:53] <Oli``> GutsyGibbon-Dean: what do you mean? Istanbul does that for you =)
[12:53] <newubuntu> Crozar: Have any1else faced that problem???
[12:53] <Crozar> newubuntu: i have 7.10 theyr is things i thought no way they will find this no way nooo way and they did because i have updated this fix 8 days ago lol so i guess WAY maybe im on the fix , and if not you can report this , or ask for it
[12:53] <ProtonZ> connect irc://freenode/#claroline
[12:53] <ProtonZ> woops
[12:53] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> Oli: i've tried recording, but it doesn't save sound.
[12:53] <Blackkatt> guys... do i need to do anything with Linux (Ubuntu) system seems slow, do i defrag or such here?
[12:54] <Oli``> Oh I see... you might need to change your sound input (through the volume control) to stereo mix
[12:54] <Crozar> Blackkatt: your using the older ubuntu linux? do you have somehting running like beryl?
[12:54] <GutsyGibbon-Dean> ok. thank you.
[12:54] <Crozar> Blackkatt: ( beryl = Compiz )
[12:54] <Blackkatt> Crozar: i have the newest beta and no effects =)
[12:54] <smmagic> 46 hours till 7.10..
[12:54] <smmagic> So close yet so far
[12:54] <porkpie> guy's how do you set the time zone under ubuntu ... need to set it to CET
[12:54] <app_> So I've got umask u=rw,go= in .bashrc, but creating files with Firefox they are u=rw,go=r...
[12:54] <newubuntu> Crozar: Is their any way out???Please tell me over this....
[12:55] <blent> ehy guys how can i stop forever the process "beagle-search"?
[12:55] <Crozar> Blackkatt: many things may slow the computer , and yes i dont think you need a defrag or something , but check your system processes
[12:55] <Blackkatt> Crozar:  its possible to defrag?
[12:55] <Crozar> newubuntu: i have a DVD problem , i cant run DVD's it cant read them it says cant unmount
[12:55] <Crozar> newubuntu: i reported this bug long time ago theyr fixing it , not everything goes perfect you know , it depends on hardware specs
[12:55] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: The Linux filesystems are generally engineered to not need any defrag. :)
[12:56] <eulogy_> I have the same problem Crozar. 7.10 RC?
[12:56] <Crozar> but as for your problem newubuntu its just something to do with software thing probebly it will be fixed with 7.10
[12:56] <Blackkatt> Tomcat_:  sounds good ;)
[12:56] <Crozar> yes 7.10 eulogy_beta
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: You shouldn't fill your partitions more than 90% or something, but that's all.
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Blackkatt: Because at that fill level, they cease being efficient.
[12:56] <Blackkatt> Tomcat_:  yeah i can see that =)
[12:56] <Crozar> i think he must check hes system processes
[12:56] <NixMan> can i dist-upgrade kubuntu right now?
[12:57] <Crozar> might have many bugged out processes from beta programs thats still froozen or lagged out
[12:57] <Crozar> Tomcat_: processes is another priority for ALl operating SYtems around the globe
[12:57] <NixMan> found this for ubuntu, how can i do this for kubuntu? http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/static/ubuntu_7_10_upgrade.html
[12:57] <Oli``> why not?
[12:57] <Crozar> NixMan: you have ubuntu 7.3?
[12:57] <Tomcat_> Crozar: Yes.
[12:57] <Blackkatt> can i update xbmc without reinstalling it?
[12:57] <Blackkatt> on ubuntu
[12:57] <Oli``> 7.4, no?
[12:57] <Crozar> NixMan: wait for ubuntu 7.10 its going to be  out within 46 hours
[12:57] <IdleOne> Crozar: it is ubuntu 7.04 not7.3
[12:57] <NixMan> Crozar: kubuntu 7.044
[12:58] <Oli``> where did all this 7.3 come from?
[12:58] <newubuntu> Crozar: It means there is no solution to it???And also please tell me about VCDs..When I put in some VCD, it also does not get mounted over desktop???
[12:58] <Crozar> oh ok , ya wait for 46 hours :)
[12:58] <Tomcat_> NixMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3692aaaed415e3427f54ec62dd8659474516b525
[12:58] <Crozar> sorry 7.3 was from somethign else i remember this number
[12:59] <Crozar> 7.4 :/
[12:59] <app_> Look like I can change system wide umask default for bash in /etc/profile, but are all programs run through bash, no?
[12:59] <Oli``> NixMan: I say go for it. I've been on Gutsy since before the beta... It's certainly very very stable right now
[12:59] <Crozar> newubuntu: you mean you cant watch them?
[12:59] <Annoyingn00b> Uh, since I ended up here, someone mind telling how to prevent Ubuntu's X-chat from automatically connecting to this server?
[12:59] <Crozar> newubuntu: vcd's nor DVD's you cant watch them in ubuntu
[12:59] <NixMan> Oli``: i was going to try to, if i can figure out how to upgade now in kubuntu
[12:59] <eulogy_> I agree with Oli, NixMan.
[12:59] <Annoyingn00b> It is a bit annoying to be forced to come here every time I start the program :/
[12:59] <Tomcat_> Annoyingn00b: Right click on the server on the left side, uncheck the autoconnect.
[01:00] <Annoyingn00b> Tomcat_: Oh, thanks
[01:00] <app_> So how do I achive this: by default any file created by any program should not have read rights for "others"?
[01:00] <Tomcat_> Annoyingn00b: Or find the network "FreeNode" in the settings dialog, uncheck "automatically connect"
[01:00] <Crozar> NixMan: why didnt you get UbuntU , because you can use KDE session , who wants to write , only if you are intrested hehe
[01:00] <eulogy_> Here NixMan: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/7.10/
[01:00] <M_WS> IdleOne: Now I installed build-essential, but it is saying stuff about MD5Sum mismatach (unable to fetch some archives)
[01:00] <Lunz> my xserver hanged before the login screen..what should i do?
[01:00] <Tomcat_> M_WS: Have you done "apt-get update" before?
[01:00] <Crozar> app_:  right clicck properties , if its music or video you can change them by chooseing which app to handle it
[01:00] <IdleOne> Annoyingn00b: click on Xchat> Network List > Scroll down to Ubuntu servers and uncheck the auto connect box
[01:00] <eulogy_> Ah bugger, guess he didn't get the link...
[01:01] <indraveni> hi all
[01:01] <eulogy_> Hello.
[01:01] <M_WS> TOmCat: no, when I try apt-get update it says (13 vpermission denied)
[01:01] <Tomcat_> M_WS: "sudo apt-get update" :)
[01:01] <newubuntu> Crozar: I cant watch VCDs files that are in .dat format only from CDs not from Hard Drive..And I can watch DVDs by going into /media/cdromx..and starting the file from there....
[01:01] <Crozar> eulogy_: we need a trash notifier so when user comes back he gets linked hehe
[01:01] <indraveni> i have a sony dsc-w35 digital camres
 and I installed the drivers for it by gphoto2 package
 but when i am trying to detect the camra thought the gtkam, its showing as, Could Not Initialize camera
 what must be the problem ?
[01:01] <indraveni>  anyone there to help me with my digitalk camera ?
[01:01] <eulogy_> Crozar: That'd be awesome.
[01:02] <M_WS> Tomcat (I dont have an internet connection on that Ubuntu machine, I am now trying to get ndiswrapper to work so i can install my card)
[01:02] <Crozar> newubuntu: what u saying>? you mean if you BUY a DVD or a VCD cd and put it in ur drive can it play it???
[01:02] <newubuntu> Crozar: My problem is that Why they dont get mounted automatically onto Desktop???
[01:03] <newubuntu> Crozar: No It does not plat it from the CD..
[01:03] <Crozar> newubuntu: you mean it plays GOOD!!! thats a priority question that most people with hardware problems have this issue , but your issue is not a problem its something to do with configuration thats it. and maybe to make the file type known for the system
[01:03] <eulogy_> Well at least his plays.
[01:04] <Lucky_Phil> ls
[01:04] <Crozar> newubuntu: if u have a cd / dvd / vcd and your drive cant play it then its a hardware problem and this bug is been reported these issues happen on couple of drives , depends on the brand and manufacturer ect..
[01:04] <M_WS> Tomcat so i cant do apt get update from there
[01:04] <Lucky_Phil> Hi Guys
[01:04] <eulogy_> Hello.
[01:05] <Lucky_Phil> anyone know if there is an application (besides KB3) that will burn CDs on Gutsy????
[01:05] <kal> what is the exact time for the 7.10 to release?
[01:05] <Crozar> myne doesnt play nothing , even if i burn cds i cant read them but other computers can its a known bug issue for my DVD CD R / RW drive from toshiba laptop s801 , and couple of otehr drives have this issue maybe to do with some wireing to the system or somethinfg lol
[01:05] <Crozar> kal:  46 hours
[01:05] <Lucky_Phil> I've tried Nero Linux and it "appears" to work fine... but none of my audio CD's burned have any sound.....
[01:06] <jxxt> indravemi, I have a sony camera I did not install any drivers for it but as soon as I plug in the usb it is identifed as a mass storgae devicwe
[01:06] <kal> Crozar: is there also an hour/minute countdown that i can see on the web?
[01:06] <Crozar> believe me ubuntu 8 will show a complete no problem system ( thats the timewhen Windows lose for good )
[01:06] <Ballena> is there a way to chnage a link to a program so it opens in the minimized mode?
[01:06] <indraveni> but my camera is getting mounted automatically
[01:06] <Crozar> no kal
[01:07] <eulogy_> kal: It is suggested that you update to RC before then to escape the download rush and simply update RC on Oct. 18th to Final Release.
[01:07] <jxxt> indravemi, So what is the problem
[01:07] <kal> ok... it is then 20071018 09:00 hrs (GMT + 0)?
[01:07] <Crozar> why eulogy_?? if he updates to RC then its bad
[01:07] <newubuntu> OK...Thanx a lot..Last thing which i wanna ask is: What should I do to get both of my CDROMs mounted automatically on my Desktop(whenever and whichever CD I might insert..DVD,VCD,Data CD)?????
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: i hear theyr was problems whenupdateing trust me i did and had new bunch of problems , and now to fix them i must format
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: or go the long cut hehe
[01:08] <newubuntu> Crozar: OK...Thanx a lot..Last thing which i wanna ask is: What should I do to get both of my CDROMs mounted automatically on my Desktop(whenever and whichever CD I might insert..DVD,VCD,Data CD)?????
[01:08] <Crozar> eulogy_: but i will format once 7.10 is out
[01:08] <M_WS> Is it IMPOSSIBLE to install ndiswrapper on a machine with no internet?
[01:08] <eulogy_> You mean RC update to FR is bad?
[01:08] <eulogy_> Or 7.04 to RC?
[01:09] <Crozar> newubuntu: its something to do with configuration thats it. and maybe to make the file type known for the system
[01:10] <Crozar> newubuntu: then it will handle it such other cd's does when inserted
[01:10] <Crozar> newubuntu: im not sure where to go from here coz i have a hardware problem i cant test it for you ;)
[01:10] <indraveni> any one there who has already done  work around for sony digi cam ?
[01:12] <newubuntu> Crozar:ok thanx a lot dear..hope to talk to you again
[01:12] <jxxt> indravemi, Did you go through the find camera options in the photo program??
[01:12] <jxxt> indraveni, Did you go through the find camera options in the photo program??
[01:13] <thesaint4444> hi, can anyone tell me how i copy the 'contents' not the directory itself including sub directetories from one directory into another? thanks.....
[01:13] <tony_montana> ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[01:14] <newubuntu> Crozar: I think you r a Muslim,,So Allah Hafiz...
[01:14] <M_WS> I have dell wireless 1390 wireless card on my laptop where I have just installed Ubuntu Feisty. Now I can not properly install build-essentials from the CD (I get stuff such as MD5Sum mismatch and Unable to fetch archives) - As for Ndiswrapper, It seems I can not "make install" without these build-essentials, because then i get tons of errors and warnings. How on earth can I get my network card to work on a machine that NOW doesn't have in
[01:14] <Crozar> newubuntu: ameen
[01:14] <stupidgirl> hi everyone, in gnome i use 2 b able to exit a program by typing "killall whatever" and now i have kde and it doesnt work why would that be?
[01:14] <indraveni> jxxt, which photo program u r talking about ?
[01:14] <penguincentral> !o4o > newubuntu
[01:15] <jxxt> indraveni, The one you are trying to use
[01:15] <indraveni> jxxt, gphoto2 or gtkam ?
[01:15] <arcad3> !postfix
[01:15] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[01:15] <indraveni> jxxt, in gphoto2 there is no such optio
[01:15] <indraveni> and in gtkam, when i am asking to scan, it saying no camera initaliszed
[01:15] <jxxt> indraveni, I thought that there was my bad
[01:16] <mzuverink> in various programs, such as but not limited to xchat and gnomebaker I get those nice character symbols that sorta look like dominos instead of the actual character, whats the best way to solve that?
[01:19] <peder> anyone got an idea what could be wrong when my computer hibernates fine, but seems to ignore it when powering on again, thus not resuming?
[01:20] <M_WS> I have dell wireless 1390 wireless card on my laptop where I have just installed Ubuntu Feisty. Now I can not properly install build-essentials from the CD (I get stuff such as MD5Sum mismatch and Unable to fetch archives) - As for installing Ndiswrapper without build-essentials, It seems I can not "make install" without these build-essentials, because then i get tons of errors and warnings. How on earth can I get my network card to work o
[01:20] <adante_> IdleOne: thanks! launchpad was very useful
[01:21] <aguitel> El ,cual es el tema
[01:21] <jmdc> M_WS: don't use the CD, get updates from the web
[01:22] <jxxt> jmdc,
[01:22] <Pici> M_WS: iirc, ndiswrapper is on the CD.
[01:22] <jmdc> jxxt: yes?
[01:22] <jxxt> that is his problem no connection
[01:22] <M_WS> exactly
[01:23] <jmdc> you have a connection now, because you're talking to me. Plug your laptop into whatever connection you've got
[01:23] <jxxt> jmdc, I jump on the key a bit early sorry
[01:23] <jmdc> thats what I was hoping for
[01:23] <M_WS> can i otherwise download these things in one package and just use my usb stick ?
[01:23] <jmdc> jxxt no problem
[01:23] <jmdc> yes, that works too.
[01:23] <jmdc> But, if you use the package manager it will be easier because it will take care of dependencies for you
[01:24] <mzuverink> M_WS, you cant plug in the machine with the wifi card to a wired connection?
[01:24] <M_WS> jmdc: build essential isnt in the list, manual install gives errors. any clue as where i can download it ?
[01:25] <M_WS> mzuverink, it connects but with no activity with the wire
[01:25] <mzuverink> M_WS, the NIC is supported?