[00:21] <Linusnewb> hi does anyone know why my usb broadband modem not works in networkmanager? :)
[00:24] <Linusnewb> no one?
[01:35] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel:  which package contains the  plasma taskmanager widget?
[01:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:07] <ctw> Hi -- I just did a dist-upgrade and am getting the following error message: "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-21-generic (x86_64)"
[02:07] <ctw> the install doesn't finish because of it
[02:07] <ctw> and I'm worried about rebooting given that it's a kernel issue
[02:07] <ctw> does anyone here have an idea how to fix this?
[02:08] <phoenix_firebrd> ctw: hi
[02:11] <stiltzkin> Hey guys. Anyone good with fglrx? Apparently something broke and now I have no GUI, my Kubuntu box only boots to a terminal.
[02:13] <stiltzkin> I'll grab some pastes in a second if someone knows what I'm talking about
[02:16] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: hi
[02:24] <stiltzkin> Heya
[02:24] <stiltzkin> Here's a paste of what I think the relevant portion in kern.log is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441008/
[02:25] <stiltzkin> Just for completeness, uname -a: Linux luna 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:27] <stiltzkin> Any help appreciated.
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: from where did you install the driver?
[02:36] <stiltzkin> Using jockey, the normal way
[02:36] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: could you paste the xorg.0.log
[02:37] <stiltzkin> This did not start happening after I installed the driver (this installation is quite old), I believe it started after a kernel update or something
[02:37] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: ok, to see whats wrong, i have to see the xorg.0.log file
[02:38] <stiltzkin> Sure, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441030/
[02:38] <stiltzkin> Looks like a segfault at the end there
[02:40] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: did you check if this is happening only when you cold boot your system?
[02:40] <stiltzkin> Yes, it happens on reboots as well
[02:41] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: can you check if there is a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ ?
[02:43] <stiltzkin> Yes, there is...would you like that as well?
[02:43] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: no
[02:44] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: did you install any drivers from the website directly before?
[02:44] <stiltzkin> nope, only the regular ATI driver from the jockey installer
[02:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: what is your graphics card model\
[02:46] <stiltzkin> lspci says: VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI M96 [Mobility Radeon HD 4650]
[02:48] <OerHeks> stiltzkin, sounds like you installed an ATI driver manually ?
[02:50] <stiltzkin> Well if "manually" means clicking "install driver" in the Additional Drivers dialog, then I suppose, yes
[02:50] <stiltzkin> it's certainly not nouveau
[02:51] <stiltzkin> I think I may just need to reinstall at this point...something broke midway through an upgrade and this is probably just the result I have to deal with.
[02:52] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: ya try reinstalling the driver
[02:52] <stiltzkin> no I mean the whole operating system, I don't think I can just reinstall the driver
[02:53] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: why not?
[02:53] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: the 4xxx series have been moved to legacy by AMD/ATI, the newest AMD/ATI Catalyst driver you can install is 12.6
[02:53] <stiltzkin> can I do that with just cli?
[02:53] <stiltzkin> I tried "jockey-text" but it shows nothing available now
[02:55] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: 64-bit of or 32-bit?
[02:55] <stiltzkin> 64
[02:58] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: you'll need the following files:  fglrx_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  fglrx-amdcccle_8.980-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[02:58] <SIR_Taco> if anyone knows how to force install those instead of the current, it would help
[02:58] <stiltzkin> I'm wgetting the installation package manually, maybe this will work
[02:58] <stiltzkin> ah ok let me try those first, thanks
[03:00] <stiltzkin> They conflict with a virtual package which I can't remove, "fglrx-control"
[03:01] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: sudo dpkg -i --force <package name>
[03:01] <stiltzkin> hmmmmm using the --force option has killed my whole system before
[03:01] <stiltzkin> I mean granted it's pretty dead now but still lol
[03:03] <stiltzkin> trying --reinstall first
[03:04] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: if reinstall doesnt help , uninstall the driver and force install the drivers that SIR_Taco told
[03:04] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: forgot about that one
[03:06] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: i couldn't find anything fglrx-control, it must be inside the fglrx package
[03:08] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: it's in the amdccle package if I remember correctly
[03:09] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: right, so it must be uninstalled
[03:09] <SIR_Taco> fgrlx-amdccle package I should say
[03:09] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: ya
[03:13] <SIR_Taco> unfortunately the 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx series AMD/ATI cards have been depreciated by AMD/ATI. 12.6 Catalyst will be the last driver update (with the exception of security updates)
[03:15] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: when was this 4 series released?
[03:17] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: I think the 4xxx series started around 2008-ish
[03:18] <SIR_Taco> but the laptop I bought around then had a HD 3200
[03:19] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: in that case I wonder why they marked it as a legacy
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: That's a good question... I read a release report a while back and it said something along the lines of: "the now legacy cards have been optimized to their full potential. The newer drivers offer no new features/benifits"
[03:21] <SIR_Taco> which is all fine and dandy.... until a kernel change breaks it
[03:21] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: right
[03:23] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: if not for gaming, the open drivers are fine now
[03:24] <stiltzkin> Hey, I'm back, sorry about that...
[03:24] <stiltzkin> Reinstalling seems to have worked, it did the dkms stuff
[03:24] <stiltzkin> let me try rebooting now
[03:25] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: yea, the radeon drivers are fine for my laptop, don't do much other than work on it anyway
[03:27] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: The only thing that is stoping me from using the open driver is the vdpau acceleration for the flash videos
[03:27] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: for the hd videos
[03:28] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: mine is a p4 processor so the gp has to compensate for it
[03:28] <stiltzkin> Hm. Still fails. Let's try this again. Maybe I should remove all of these fglrx packages and just try using the .zip from AMD's website?
[03:29] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: haven't used the vdpau drivers, never had a problem.
[03:29] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: remove all fglrx packages and try install the package that SIR_Taco told you
[03:29] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: in that case you must be using a new processor
[03:31] <stiltzkin> doing apt-get purge fglrx*
[03:32] <SIR_Taco> phoenix_firebrd: it's an AMD Phenom II X4
[03:35] <phoenix_firebrd> SIR_Taco: it should handle the flash videos nicely, my cpu jumps to 70% when seeing flah videos without vdpau
[03:36] <stiltzkin> I'm looking for the .debs
[03:37] <stiltzkin> oh, you mean build these from the installer
[03:40] <stiltzkin> Building the .debs failed, gonna try just using the normal installer
[03:40] <jay__> good morning people from scotland
[03:41] <stiltzkin> Nope, building the driver failed. Great.
[03:43] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: get the drivers from the repository
[03:44] <stiltzkin> how? I googled for those package names and can't find them anywhere
[03:44] <stiltzkin> I don't think the version matches the fglrx package in the repos either
[03:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:45] <stiltzkin> ah ok thanks
[03:45] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: read this sub topic 3. Installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website
[03:46] <SIR_Taco> just remember 12.6 is it
[03:48] <stiltzkin> should I try building for "Ubuntu/precise" even though I'm really running "Ubuntu/quantal"
[03:48] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: it *should* still work
[03:48] <stiltzkin> well this is what I just did, it doesn't :(
[03:49] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: do you get errors?
[03:49] <stiltzkin> Yeah, hang on I'll put up a paste
[03:53] <stiltzkin> hang on, the output isn't saving to a file properly
[03:55] <stiltzkin> OK here's the full output. This is with the latest version from AMD's website (which is 8.97 I believe): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1441102/
[03:58] <stiltzkin> I see I'm missing dependencies, give me a sec
[03:58] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin: possibly try build-dep for fgrlx?
[03:59] <stiltzkin> see the thing is, if I try to do "apt-get install debhelper dh-modaliases execstack" all of those packages are already installed and up to date
[04:01] <SIR_Taco> stiltzkin:  sudo apt-get build-dep fglrx (then try the manual way)
[04:01] <stiltzkin> OK.
[04:03] <stiltzkin> Same errors :/
[04:05] <stiltzkin> Maybe it's just time to back up my data and start fresh.  I appreciate the help with it though.
[04:06] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: the deps are installed?
[04:06] <stiltzkin> yeah
[04:06] <stiltzkin> and it still fails
[04:06] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: what is the version of the installed debhelper?
[04:07] <stiltzkin> looks like...9.20120608ubuntu1
[04:13] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: have you installed the build-essentials package?
[04:13] <stiltzkin> yup
[04:14] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: are you installing the driver from amd's website
[04:14] <stiltzkin> yep, downloaded the zip manually
[04:15] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: do you like to try the open drivers?
[04:16] <stiltzkin> nope, I have to have AMD's drivers :/
[04:16] <stiltzkin> that's why I'm saying I'll probably need to reinstall
[04:16] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: it seems a reinstall may not do good, you can try your luck
[04:17] <stiltzkin> I mean it's worked fine for me in the past
[04:17] <stiltzkin> the only reason it's broken is because the upgrade utility just decided to crash on me in the middle of an upgrade
[04:17] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: its the kernel update , may be. do you have the old kernel still
[04:17] <stiltzkin> yeah, and I've tried booting the older kernels, they don't help :/
[04:20] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: how are you compiling the source from the website
[04:21] <stiltzkin> well I've tried both the regular way (just running the .run installer) and with --buildpkg
[04:23] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: good luck with your reinstall
[04:24] <stiltzkin> hahaha thanks, and I really do appreciate the help...disappointing I know
[04:24] <stiltzkin> won't be the first time :)
[04:26] <thelionroars> if someone has a default (or close enough) version of /etc/default/grub, would they be willing to pastebin it for me? I'm unable to update grub atm and can't work out why its not parsing
[04:28] <phoenix_firebrd> stiltzkin: :)
[04:29] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: what do you mean b default?
[04:29] <thelionroars> as in you haven't done any self-configuration of it
[04:29] <thelionroars> I think otherwise it is fairly standard
[04:41] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: http://paste.kde.org/625610/
[04:42] <thelionroars> thanks, someone on #grub was able to locate the problem though
[04:43] <thelionroars> I had changed from ASCII to UTF-8
[05:00] <phoenix_firebrd> thelionroars: ok
[08:00] <neha_> I can't enable monitor mode on my BCM43XX wifi card
[08:01] <neha_> I read somewhere that Broadcom does not support monitor mode
[08:01] <neha_> any workaround?
[08:22] <erdem> hey  turk  varmı  =)))
[12:29] <SteigeJo> test
[12:29] <monkeyjuice> test complete
[14:12] <ironfroggy> I have a machine that locked up and was hard rebooted. now, we can't login. failsafe login just flickers and goes back to the KDM login.
[14:12] <ironfroggy> I don't know how to get to any state that I can diagnose this. any suggestions?
[14:22] <rork> ironfroggy: try renaming your ~/.kde directory, this will set back kde to the defaults which might enable you to login again. This will also move some settings/data which you can retrieve from the renamed directory later
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:24] <foormea> hello! any suggestions to stream videos with a tablet? i've got movie files on a server, i've got a tablet, i wanna watch movies on the tablet withotu copying the movie files beforehand
[14:24] <ironfroggy> rork: trying, if i could get into the machine in the first place
[14:24] <ironfroggy> building a boot DVD now so i can do so
[14:26] <rork> ironfroggy: alt+shift+1 from KDM should bring you to a tty (commandline interface) where you should be able to login and use the commandline to move the directory
[14:26] <BluesKaj> foormea, you might try VLC it has pretty good streaming capabilitiies, not sure about tablets though
[14:28] <foormea> BluesKaj: just tried but it's not doing what i want. well. streaming itself is not what i want, i want to pick/control all from the tablet. another app, "vlc stream&convert", lets you do that but it crashes on my tablet
[14:28] <foormea> but thanks anyway for the suggestoin
[14:28] <foormea> i'm reading online about using simple samba shares
[14:28] <foormea> mhhhhh i'll look into nfsfs maybe. i wanted to try with sshfs, but the sshfs app is not free on android
[14:28] <rork> ironfroggy: sorry, CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+F7 will bring you back to KDM
[14:29] <foormea> nfsfs... nfs :) sorry
[14:31] <BluesKaj> foormea, ssh won't work ..it encrypts the data , then decrypts it , and samba isn't for streaming , it will copy to your tablet
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !streaming
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !info streaming
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hmm
[14:36] <foormea> mh
[14:36] <foormea> oh well
[14:37] <BluesKaj> foormea, the save convert option in vlc isn't really fro streaming ..hang on
[14:38] <foormea> no i'm tlaking about the android app
[14:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:39] <foormea> i just got a nexus7
[14:39] <foormea> trying to find a use for it
[14:40] <BluesKaj> do you have vlc on the server , pushing rather than pulling usually works best
[14:40] <foormea> well the idea is that i wanna pull -- i wanna watch movies in bed, away from my computer
[14:42] <foormea> that's why i was thinking about mounting a ssh/samba/nfs share onto the tablet, then accessing it with a regular video player
[14:44] <yofel> at lest the quantal kernel for the n7 doesn't have nfs or cifs support, I hope that they'll fix that in raring
[14:44] <yofel> sshfs works fine
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yofel, for video streaming ?
[14:47] <yofel> I haven't tried that... but I guess you can spare one of the 4 CPU cores on SSH
[14:47] <yofel> s/spare/spend/
[14:51] <foormea> yofel: you mean, mounting a ssh share with sshfs on the n7 and reading video file with a video player works fine?
[14:52] <yofel> I tried to read mp3's from sshfs which worked fine - video decoding I don't know
[14:52] <foormea> ok. sshfs, you had to buy?
[14:52] <yofel> ah on android? haven't tried it there
[14:53] <foormea> mh? what do you mean then?
[14:53] <foormea> computer to computer using sshfs?
[14:53] <yofel> nexus7 running ubuntu using sshfs - that's experimental though
[14:57] <foormea> nexus7 running ubuntu!!??
[14:57] <yofel> foormea: on android ES file explorer using sftp seems to work - but it's starving on network bandwidth here
[14:58] <foormea> WOW
[14:58] <foormea> okay now i think a tablet becomes interesting
[14:58] <foormea> i was reading about custom 'mods' for android and such
[14:59] <foormea> was about to root my tablet and trey cyanogenmod
[14:59] <foormea> but if i can install ubuntu... :D
[15:00] <yofel> well, it ~works~, but bug 1068994 is the reason I put android on it again for now
[15:01] <foormea> wow
[15:01] <foormea> does it run well? is it well adapted to the tablet?!
[15:02] <foormea> i must say i'm impressed
[15:04] <foormea> pardon my ignorance, but i'm not 100% sure i understand what rooting means. if rooting means being able to run things as su, why do you need rooting to install another OS since you're gonna be wiping the whole OS?!
[15:12] <foormea> yofel: did you use it with 12.10 or 13.04?
[15:13] <yofel> 12.10, which was too buggy - haven't tried a current verison of 13.04 yet
[15:15] <simplew> yofel: prung
[15:15] <yofel> hm?
[15:16] <simplew> yofel: i have reported a bug but seams it wasnt reported to the correct application, is possible to move the bug report to the correct application in launchpad?
[15:17] <simplew> yofel: i have reported this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/1090601  to grub, but seams the correct package is grub2
[15:17] <yofel> There's a down arrow beside the package name whichs opens an UI for that or use the yellow edit button beside the package name
[15:17] <BluesKaj> wonder if the 13.04 AMD 64 daily build is still broken for my pc , haven't received any positive response to the bug I filed about it
[15:18] <simplew> yofel: ah yes i see it :)
[15:18] <yofel> hm, there's no ajax UI for the package name, so nvm the second part
[15:19] <simplew> yofel: ajax ui?
[15:21] <yofel> simplew: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%29
[15:22] <simplew> hum
[15:22] <yofel> the yellow edit buttons and the green edit links on Launchpad are implemented using AJAX
[15:23] <simplew> i have choosed the package grub2 and clicked in save button, but now when i enter in grub2 in launchpad i dont see there this new bug report
[15:24] <yofel> simplew: it should've been assigned to grub-pc
[15:24] <yofel> hm
[15:24] <yofel> or maybe not
[15:25] <yofel> grub2 after all
[15:25] <yofel> simplew: shows up fine here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[15:27] <simplew> yes was needed to change the order ot importance, ok
[15:36] <ubuntu> hello all
[15:36] <Guest23717> how we they ?
[15:37] <edmund> Hi. I've installed Jubuntu 12.10 recently. I deleted the /home/edmund/Music and Videos directories and replaced with symbolic links to folders on another hard drive (ln -s /media/drivename/Music /home/edmund/Music). It seems to work perfectly fine, and as I've always used in Ubuntu in the past. But when I restart, the icons are different, and when I double click it says Idon't have permission to the file. I tired going to
[15:37] <edmund>  the drive directly to mount it, then when I click the links it gives me a choice of a program to open it with...
[15:37] <edmund> I can delete and create the symbolic links again, but the same happends when I reboot... Any suggestions?...
[15:37] <edmund> Kubuntu*
[15:41] <simplew> anyone knows what the ktorrent ID, how ktorrent appears to other torrent clients?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> edmund, is the other drive on a remote network or local ?
[15:43] <edmund> local
[15:46] <edmund> first when I create the link, I can use it just as it it's a folder, as you'd expect a symbolic libnk to, afterwards it's like this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/is9fj.png?1
[15:48] <BluesKaj> edmund, first of all ,why the symbolic link , whynot ssh , samba or nfs ?
[15:50] <edmund> BlueKaj, I don't understand why I'd do those, I simply want to have a link to the folders on that drive from within my home directory. I've always use a smbolic link on ubuntu, and it's always worked....
[15:50] <edmund> it's a local drive
[15:52] <BluesKaj> is it an outboard drive on that pc or is it a networked drive, edmund?
[15:52] <edmund> it's simply an internal drive, plugged in to ide
[15:52] <yofel> simplew: "KTorrent <version>" as far as I know
[15:54] <yofel> edmund: the drive is mounted when you try to access the links?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> edmund, then the drive should be directly accessible thru dolphin/places/devices or media in your home directory ..I don't understand the nedd for symbolic links
[15:55] <BluesKaj> err need
[15:55] <yofel> BluesKaj: I do that myself for system cosistency
[15:56] <BluesKaj> consistency yofel , in what manner ? Maybe you could explain , because i haven't seen that method recommended anywhere
[15:57] <edmund> Yes, I can access by clciking on the drive and going through the folder structure, but it's nice to have the music folder right there in home. I dont see why it isnt working..it should be quite simple. I've done it on numerous other ubuntu installations..first time I've tried a kubuntu install though...dont see why it would be different, or whats wrong...
[15:58] <yofel> I have some scripts that expect $STUFF to be in a specific location - and as my PC's have different setups I sometimes use symlinks and bind mounts to make sure that you can find the files in the same location on all systems
[15:58] <BluesKaj> I just place launcher for the external drive in quicklaunch in the panel , works great
[15:58] <edmund> same yofel
[15:59] <yofel> edmund: do the links work after you look through the drive?
[15:59] <yofel> maybe it's just not auto-mounted
[15:59] <edmund> no, after looking through the drive, clicking the link gives me the 'opn with...' dialogue...
[16:00] <edmund> I can select dolphin, and it will open the location, but even though I clciked remeber this choice, it does the same if I try again...
[16:00] <yofel> does the link work in konsole?
[16:00] <edmund> I'll try
[16:00] <akerok_> Hello everyone!
[16:00] <simplew> yofel: finally a saw a guy with a ktorrent client when downloading a torrent
[16:01] <edmund> yes, works in konsole as normal
[16:01] <yofel> weird then...
[16:01] <edmund> I know...
[16:04] <yofel> edmund: I would try to set the drive to auto mount at login or on boot as a workaround - maybe dolphin doesn't recheck whether the links work again later
[16:04] <yofel> does pressing f5 in dolphin have any effect?
[16:04] <edmund> ok, went through the settings in file properties in dolphin and added a icon and added dolphon to application preference order. seems to work..I'll try rebooting though...
[16:05] <edmund> ok, is there an easy way to automount drives, or do I have to add to manually edit /etc/fstab?
[16:06] <edmund> I'll try a reboot, I'll be back
[16:06] <yofel> system settings -> removable devices
[16:06] <edmund> ok I'll do that first thanks
[16:11] <edmund> yep seems to be working now..not sure which fix did it, but I set all drives to autmount on boot
[16:11] <edmund> thanks yofel
[16:12] <foormea> i've got something pretty strange with my audio setup. playing sound with vlc, if audio output is set to pulseaudio, very often the sound is gonna be totally saturated
[16:12] <foormea> and i'll need to adjust the system volume to make it read sound properly again
[16:14] <simplew> yofel: do you have any raring in which you can run kmix and move capture slider with the mouse?
[16:15] <yofel> looks normal to me
[16:15] <yofel> oh capture... sec
[16:15] <yofel> Application: KMix (kmix (deleted)), signal: Segmentation fault
[16:15] <yofel> fun
[16:20] <yofel> simplew: I get kde bug 310959 which is fixed in RC1
[16:22]  * yofel notices that we're talking in the wrong channel...
[16:36] <Chocoq> habe mir den quassel-bildschirm verhunzt. kann mir jemand sagen wie ich es in 3 fensterbereiche teile links:alle-chats mitte:chat rechts-benutzer?
[16:36] <Chocoq> einstellungen - quassel konfigurieren (und dann???)
[16:36] <Mic4cH> talk in english please! Its international channel
[16:38] <Chocoq> sorry. how to create 3-parted-quassel-monitor. left-side:all-chats, middle: dialogs right-side: users
[16:38] <Chocoq> distroyd it.
[16:39] <Chocoq> create and fix 3 parts/windows for quassel-monitor
[16:43] <akerok_> Is anyone here experienced with ubuntu servers?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> akerok_, join #ubuntu-server
[17:39] <ndegruchy> I'm having a strange crash in Rekonq when I try to setup a cookie whitelist, anyone else notice this?
[17:42] <ndegruchy> This is the crash dialog
[17:42] <ndegruchy> http://imgur.com/7x2JB
[17:42] <ndegruchy> this is the dialog it happens at, when I hit apply or okay http://imgur.com/lGK36
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ndegruchy, rekonq is too buggy for everyday use , suggest using a differnt browser
[18:10] <ndegruchy> BluesKaj: I use Chromium, even though it's behind in kubuntu, it has better integration with KDE
[18:13] <laci> hi
[18:54] <mime_1111> hey ppl after instaling libsdl1.2, my app works perfect, but when i relaunch it, its textures and fonts had disappeared, heeelp plz, thnx
[20:07] <lopster> Hello All, can anyone assist me with editing grub booting order? I'm using Kubuntu 12.04, thank you.
[20:10] <DarthFrog> !ask | lopster
[20:17] <lopster> Ok, thanks. So my question is: I have 3 OS: Kubuntu, OpenSuse and Windows, the last OU installed on the system was OpenSuse and that's why currently grub is with this theme and th primary load OU is OpenSuse. I want to use as 1st boot OU Kubuntu and I don't know what I should change. I have found /etc/default/grub in Kubuntu drive pointing to GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-34-generic" which is obviously not active setting. I have found /etc/defaul
[20:19] <DarthFrog> lopster:  A simple way to accomplish what you want is to boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands:  "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sd<whatever your boot drive is>"
[20:21] <DarthFrog> Probably /dev/sda
[20:21] <DarthFrog> If you have only one drive, that's it.
[20:37] <lopster> DarthFrog, thank you, I will try this.
[21:59] <lopster> Hi, I have tried to change boot loader so that it's not OpenSuse my 1st choice but Kubuntu 12.04. I have boot into Kubuntu and run the following commands: "sudo update-grub" then "sudo grub-install /dev/sda5. I have tried this about grub but nothing changed. I think I need to boot first into OpenSuse and then I need to update grub with the above commands, can you please confirm? Thank you.
[22:00] <dniMretsaM> lopster: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:00] <dniMretsaM> lopster: notice the lack of partition number
[22:02] <lopster> dniMretsaM: Yes, but OpenSuse is on the same disk, is Kubuntu will be my default option only because I'm running this command from within Kbuntu?
[22:03] <dniMretsaM> lopster: yes. when you run update-grub from Kubuntu, it will put itself as the first menuentry
[22:04] <lopster> Great, thanks for the confirmation.
[22:11] <SJr> Bleh half of my menu icons have disappeared in Kubuntu 12.10 in Eclipse
[22:14] <megusta> hello
[22:14] <megusta> can anyone help me out?
[22:15] <megusta> i run debian, but it's a general linux question, i guess
[22:17] <BluesKaj> megusta, we may be able to answer , but the #debian channel is probly the best place for your answer
[22:22] <lopster> Hi, I just run sudo grub-install /dev/sda but I lost all other options except Kubuntu. Can you advise how to bring this back with kubuntu option as default? Thanks.
[22:30] <InspectorCluseau> lopster, may I help you?
[22:32] <InspectorCluseau> I would suggest you apt-get install grub-customizer Then run that in a terminal.
[22:33] <lopster> Hi, let me try
[22:35] <BluesKaj> lopster, just run sudo update -grub in kubuntu
[22:38] <thelionroars> there is also a #grub channel
[22:41] <BluesKaj> InspectorCluseau, where does one find  grub-customizer , doesn't appear in the repos
[22:42] <InspectorCluseau> It's in my synaptic
[22:42] <BluesKaj> not mine
[22:42] <InspectorCluseau> I guess I installed it ... google it
[22:44] <InspectorCluseau> https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[22:45] <InspectorCluseau> It is a good graphical tool
[22:45] <BluesKaj>  a ppa
[22:45] <monkeyjuice> BluesKaj:  its pouring down rain here
[22:49] <BluesKaj> aha monkeyjuice , another colorado low
[22:49] <monkeyjuice> i would rather have snow
[22:59] <BluesKaj> yeah monkeyjuice , freezing rain ..treacherous


[07:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.32.9 => 2.33] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[07:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (artful-proposed/main) [2.32.9+17.10 => 2.33+17.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[07:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.32.9+18.04 => 2.33+18.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[07:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.32.9~14.04 => 2.33~14.04] (no packageset)
[08:12]  * apw is handling snapd ^
[08:16] <sil2100> apw: thanks!
[09:12] <caribou> Hello everyone, his this the appropriate place to get in touch with the SRU team or #ubuntu-devel is better ?
[09:27] <apw> caribou, you should find the SRU team here i recon
[09:27] <caribou> apw: morning, I'll repost my question here then :
[09:28] <caribou> There is a dependency issue b/w  kdump-tools (in -updates) and kexec-tools (-proposed) which makes the installation of the linux-crashdump meta-package to fail (Xenial)=
[09:28] <caribou> kdump-tools is depending on the version of kexec-tools which is still in -proposed
[09:28] <apw> that is bad
[09:29] <LocutusOfBorg> guys, does ubuntu 18.10 use merged usr?  https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/merge_requests/5
[09:29] <gitlab-bot> Debian Installer bug (Merge request) 5 in debootstrap "Re-enable merged-usr by default (after stretch release)" (comments: 5) [Opened]
[09:29] <apw> sil2100, ^ i think you might have been playing along with those
[09:29] <caribou> apw: at least this is my two minute analysis of the situation; when I add -proposed to the sources.list, it installs correctly
[09:29] <LocutusOfBorg> lets not break debootstrap :)
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe slangasek has an opinion on merged usr? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/Quantal/UsrMerge
[09:54] <LocutusOfBorg> I would say to enable it, unless anybody speaks otherwise, it seems to have been done in quantal according to wiki, maybe just not enabled
[10:00] <sil2100> ugh
[10:00] <sil2100> apw, caribou: let me take a look
[10:00] <caribou> apw: thanks!
[10:01] <sil2100> Ah ah, this is unexpected
[10:02] <sil2100> apw: could you by any chance be able to verify LP: #1743529 ?
[10:03] <sil2100> Since today I released makedumpfile which causes the issue, which got built in -proposed so against the new kexec-tools
[10:03] <sil2100> And we'd need to release that
[10:05] <sil2100> I guess we need to set phasing of makedumpfile to 0
[10:06]  * sil2100 looks into how to do that
[10:10] <sil2100> apw: ok, I guess I can use change-override to set the phased percentage - but do you know how to re-enable phasing afterwards?
[10:21] <sil2100> apw: ok, I have overriden the phased percentage of makedumpfile to 0 so that users don't encounter more upgrade problems
[10:22] <sil2100> caribou: ^
[10:22] <sil2100> Now we need someone to verify the kexec-tools package so we can release it
[10:22] <caribou> sil2100: ok, I'll check
[10:22] <sil2100> caribou: if you got the package then I guess this won't change a thing for you, but new users won't encounter the bug
[10:23] <sil2100> The real fix is getting kexec-tools verified and released ASAP
[10:26] <apw> sil2100, concur
[10:34] <caribou> @sil2100 I don't know if there is some kind of delay, but purging  cleaning, apt update & apt install does the same thing
[10:36] <sil2100> caribou: as said, if you got the update already, you probably will just have it
[10:38] <sil2100> But yeah, I don't know much about the phased upgrades mechanisms myself
[10:39] <caribou> sil2100: not sure that it is all the problem, I'm still looking at it
[10:46] <caribou> sil2100: yes, there is more to it :
[10:46] <caribou> apt install kdump-tools :
[10:46] <caribou> kdump-tools : Depends: kexec-tools (>= 1:2.0.10-2) but it is not going to be installed
[10:47] <caribou> if you apt install kdump-tools kexec-tools, there is even more details :
[10:47] <caribou> kdump-tools : Depends: kexec-tools (>= 1:2.0.10-2) but 1:2.0.10-1ubuntu2.5 is to be installed*
[10:49] <caribou> The SRU will release 1:2.0.16-1ubuntu1~16.04.1 which will still fail
[10:50] <caribou> oh, wait it .16 not .10
[10:52] <sil2100> Should work
[10:52] <caribou> @sil2100 so the answer is to override the phased percentage of kdump-tools as well (built from makedumpfile) which is the one that fails
[10:52] <caribou> yes it will, my mistake
[10:53] <sil2100> caribou: ah! And I did a mistake as well, I thought I have overriden all binaries of the source but I didn't
[10:53] <sil2100> Now it's good
[11:00] <sil2100> cascardo: hey! Maybe you could help out with getting LP: #1743529 verified?
[11:48] <cascardo> sil2100: so, the makedumpfile and kexec-tools updates are "interlocked"
[11:48] <cascardo> IIRC, makedumpfile in -proposed has a Breaks on kexec-tools on GA/-updates, so you have to release both of them from -proposed
[11:49] <cascardo> but I see, you want a verify of the kexec-tools bug so you can release it
[11:49] <apw> cascardo, one has already escaped ...
[11:50] <cascardo> apw: yah, I noticed that, not sure how one could have verified one without verifying the other, but will do the verification needed myself
[11:51] <apw> cascardo, indeed
[11:55] <sil2100> cascardo: if both had the same bug number and multiple tasks, I'd know not to release one without the other
[11:56] <sil2100> cascardo: but here they seemed disconnected, at least from the bug perspective - which is what I'm looking at mostly before releasing an update
[11:56] <sil2100> Maybe I should have drilled deeper
[11:57] <cascardo> sil2100: I could have warned about it first, as well
[11:57] <cascardo> booting xenial here so I can verify it, will do artful next
[12:06] <cascardo> sil2100: done on xenial
[12:08] <sil2100> cascardo: thanks!
[12:08] <sil2100> Now, I need to figure out how to remove the phased percentage override
[12:13] <sil2100> cjwatson: hey, maybe you'll know: I have overriden a package's phase percentage to 0 through change-override - are overrides of such things handled specially, e.g. do I need to somehow 'disable' the override for things to start phasing again?
[12:14] <sil2100> cjwatson: or does doing .changeOverride() only simply modify the value?
[12:16] <rbasak> There's a bzr branch for overriding phase stops IIRC
[12:16] <rbasak> One moment
[12:17] <rbasak> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sru/+junk/phased-update-overrides
[12:17] <rbasak> sil2100: is that what you're after?
[12:17] <rbasak> Actually I think it isn't, sorry
[12:17] <cascardo> sil2100: now, also verified on artful
[12:18] <cjwatson> sil2100: .changeOverride() only sets the current value; actual phasing processes are handled outside Launchpad
[12:18] <cjwatson> I don't recall exactly where
[12:18] <sil2100> cjwatson: ah, ok then!
[12:18] <sil2100> rbasak: oh, didn't know about it, I already used change-override for this
[12:19] <sil2100> I guess my change only stopped it for one moment then
[12:19] <sil2100> ANyway, let me release makedumpfile, switch phasing of the other packages to 10 (as per default) and see how this goes
[12:19] <rbasak> sil2100: I think that has the inverse sense though. It's for override of automatic phasing stops
[12:19] <sil2100> s/makedumpfile/kexec-tools
[12:19] <sil2100> Ah, or that
[12:19] <apw> i thought setting phasing to 0 was the right thing to do to stop it letting anyone having it 'later'
[12:20] <apw> and that once it was 0 it didn't increment automatically any more
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lastpass-cli (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1.2ubuntu1 => 1.0.0-1.2ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[12:20] <apw> not that that stops anyone not using update-manager
[12:20] <rbasak> I wonder how that interacts with automatic phasing though
[12:20] <sil2100> apw: hm, would be good if we had that documented
[12:20] <rbasak> Does the automatic phaser "call" change-override?
[12:20] <sil2100> rbasak: the phaser I guess uses .changeOverride() directly
[12:20] <rbasak> bdmurray will know: ^
[12:20] <sil2100> Which is what change-override does
[12:21] <rbasak> That suggests to me that the phaser needs a second override "blacklist"
[12:21] <sil2100> Anyway, I'd really like these things to be documented, I saw nothing about stopping phasing on the SRU page
[12:21] <rbasak> Unless it automatically detects a phase of 0 means "don't touch"
[12:21] <sil2100> rbasak: from what apw is writing it might be doing just that
[12:21] <sil2100> But bdmurray will know more
[12:22] <apw> the code is in ubuntu-archive-tools
[12:22] <apw> and 0 does look to be special
[12:23] <rbasak> FWIW, we've had a similar problem with grub2-signed before. I think we should adjust sru-release to have a known list of sets that should go together and require a specific force to do anything but release them together
[12:24] <sil2100> britney would have caught this
[12:24] <apw> well we should be checking the britney output
[12:24] <apw> which is running and (as sil2000 says) should have been telling us to release them together
[12:25] <apw> i wonder if there is any way we could get that information surfaced in the penidng-sru report
[12:25] <apw> uggg, i sound like a manager
[12:25] <Laney> The end goal is presumably to *use* proposed-migration to release SRUs?
[12:26] <apw> yes, though we have been talking about that definatly happening for new releases for at least 2
[12:26] <sil2100> caribou: hopefully your problems should be over soon ;)
[12:26] <apw> i think it was deemed too gnarly to retrofit to releases we have simply sru-released a bunch of stuff to
[12:27] <Laney> I mean if people are going to work on SRU tooling, maybe those blockers would be a good use of effort
[12:27] <Laney> not that I'm (a) in the team (b) knowledgable of what the problems are
[12:27] <Laney> :P
[13:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (artful-proposed/partner) [1:20180508.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20180607.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
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[16:10] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: merged usr was a topic of conversation at the Foundations engineering sprint this past week.  I believe the conclusion is that there's no value to our users in doing this by default in advance of Debian doing it.
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubiquity (bionic-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS> => <IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[16:37] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, isn't this the default now in Debian?
[16:38] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, isn't this the default now in Debian?
[16:38] <LocutusOfBorg> (see the pull request)
[16:39] <slangasek> what pull request?
[16:40] <slangasek> infinity, xnox: ^^ redirecting to you anyway, since this was primarily the two of you having that discussion
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/merge_requests/5
[16:41] <LocutusOfBorg> this one
[16:41] <gitlab-bot> Debian Installer bug (Merge request) 5 in debootstrap "Re-enable merged-usr by default (after stretch release)" (comments: 6) [Opened]
[16:57] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: "according to @vorlon this has been implemented in Ubuntu quantal" - uhm what?
[16:57] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: the header on that wiki page says "draft"
[16:58] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: also, if you look at the page history, I didn't write any of this. :P
[17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ndctl [source] (cosmic-proposed) [60.1-0ubuntu1]
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[17:43] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, lol, your name was written on that page :)
[17:43] <LocutusOfBorg> I updated the ticket, please ack the change :)
[17:43] <slangasek> LocutusOfBorg: yes, xnox likes to blame me for a lot of things
[17:46] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[17:46] <LocutusOfBorg> you should be proud of so many pokes! :)
[18:30] <xnox> slangasek, what the quantal?! LocutusOfBorg - your comment does not make sense at all.
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shim-signed (bionic-proposed/main) [1.34.9 => <IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[19:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-apt [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.6.1]
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: myspell-lv [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/none) [0.9.6-8] (personal-gunnarhj, ubuntu-desktop)


[09:21] <fagan> morning
[12:06] <nessita> hello crowd!
[12:07] <fagan> nessita: your here
[12:07] <fagan> nice
[12:07] <nessita> fagan: yes :-)
[12:09] <nessita> how is it going?
[12:09] <fagan> good good
[12:09] <fagan> how was the trip back
[12:11] <nessita> it was good, and we were really lucky, since our flights operated normally, but the airport closed a couple hours after we landed
[12:11] <Chipaca> nessita: ralsina is still stuck in brazil
[12:12] <nessita> Chipaca: yeah, I figured from his tweets :-(
[12:12] <Chipaca> nessita: yeah. I thought you weren't working today?
[12:12] <nessita> Chipaca: I am, I wasn't working yesterday
[12:12] <Chipaca> nessita: kewl
[12:13] <nessita> so, I just checked lan.com and the buenos aires-córdoba flight right next to mine was cancelled on Sunday
[12:13] <nessita> I feel special :-P
[12:13] <Chipaca> nessita: cue mandel singing 'i feel pretty'
[12:13] <facundobatista> nessita, you're special :)
[12:13] <facundobatista> (good morning)
[12:13] <nessita> Chipaca: lol
[12:14] <Chipaca> nessita: i need to go over some dates/planning stuff wiv you
[12:14] <Chipaca> nessita: when would be a good time?
[12:14] <mandel> nessita: I have been looking at trunk of control panel and u10client and all tests seem to pass, did they get fixed?
[12:15] <mandel> or am I doing something wrong?
[12:15] <facundobatista> mandel, pign
[12:15] <nessita> Chipaca: depending on your lunch, it can be as soon as I finish catching up with stuff, like in 30 minutes?
[12:15] <facundobatista> *ping
[12:15] <mandel> facundobatista: pong
[12:15] <nessita> mandel: I would say your machine is either too slow or too fast and the timing issues are not presenting there
[12:15] <Chipaca> nessita: sure. ping me.
[12:15] <nessita> mandel: as far as I know, everything is still "broken" re tests
[12:16] <nessita> which is :-(
[12:16] <nessita> mandel: unless dobey fixed that yesterday? though I think he wasn't working yesterday
[12:16] <mandel> nessita: really? dammed I ran them several times in my vm and worked.. that is annoying
[12:17] <nessita> mandel: do you have u1-devtools up to date? because that is were the issue is (we fixed the base test case)
[12:18] <mandel> nessita: good point, I think I reverted to r33 at some point to find out when all this started
[12:18] <nessita> mandel: right
[12:18]  * mandel looks at the r version
[12:18] <facundobatista> mandel, just a reminder of that branch for you to run the tests in windows :)
[12:18] <mandel> facundobatista: oh, I forgot, can I have the url?
[12:18] <mandel> facundobatista: I'll do it right now
[12:20] <facundobatista> mandel, this one https://code.launchpad.net/~facundo/ubuntuone-client/waiting-send-id/+merge/63979  thanks!
[12:20] <mandel> np
[12:23] <nessita> mandel: how is it going the SyncDaemonTool for windows? (trying to build a mental map of our pending assignments re wcp)
[12:24] <mandel> nessita: goo progress but I'm waiting for the test to fix and land the new code that has been blocked for a while, I'll like to have something ready for this evening tom morning
[12:24] <mandel> facundobatista: since running al tes tests on windows atm is a pain, which test are the ones you wrote for that branch you gave me?
[12:25] <nessita> mandel: ack, I'll work on the tests as soon as I finish with what Chipacaa needs
[12:26] <facundobatista> mandel, actually, didn't write a new test for the windows part: changed what windows/ipc.py receives in some part, and fixed the code so the *current* tests go ok
[12:26] <facundobatista> mandel, see line 90/91 of the LP diff
[12:28] <mandel> facundobatista: ok, then I know which to run :)
[12:30] <mandel> facundobatista: looks like the tests pass if I merge it with https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/provide_credentials_management which has been blocked due to the tests situation..
[12:30] <mandel> major PITA...
[12:34] <ralsina> morning!
[12:34] <nessita> hi ralsina
[12:34] <nessita> ralsina: how/where are you? :-)
[12:35] <ralsina> hi nessita, greetings from foggy sao paulo
[12:35] <ralsina> Or rather Atibaia, wherever that is
[12:36] <nessita> ralsina: and your family, where are they?
[12:36] <ralsina> nessita: in another hotel in Sao Paulo proper
[12:37] <nessita> ralsina: have you get together?
[12:37] <ralsina> since the airlines are paying we can't change hotels, and I am 1 hour by car away from them
[12:37] <nessita> oh
[12:37] <ralsina> and neither can leave the hotels since the airlines want us near when the plane gets scheduled
[12:37] <ralsina> so, maor suckage
[12:37] <ralsina> s/maor/major/
[12:38] <nessita> ralsina: are you getting back to ARG in the same flight?
[12:38] <ralsina> nessita: nope
[12:38] <nessita> mayor oh
[12:38] <ralsina> nessita: not even the same airline :-(
[12:38] <nessita> major*
[12:40] <ralsina> I wonder how I describe this on canonicaladmin (yes, I had swap scheduled for today but I am stuck in another country)
[12:42] <nessita> ralsina: you should ask your boss ;-)
[12:42] <ralsina> I'm so down I am about to go on a free-shop chocolate binge while watching friends reruns :-(
[12:44]  * mandel walking dog
[12:54]  * fagan break
[13:16] <nessita> mandel: let me know when you get back
[13:38] <fagan> store bought scones are not as good as the ones from london :(
[13:42] <dobey> nessita: i had yesterday and today as swap, so no i didn't work on the tests. :-/
[13:48] <nessita> dobey: ack. Is tarmac running?
[13:48] <dobey> yes
[13:48] <dobey> but u1client is broken; and i don't want my workstation crashing because the tests ate all my RAM
[13:54] <alecu> hello #ubuntuone!
[13:55] <nessita> hi alecu
[13:55] <alecu> hi nessita. I thought you were on swap today.
[13:55] <nessita> alecu: not, only yesterday
[13:55] <nessita> :-)
[13:58]  * fagan needs to head off for a few hours for errands
[13:59] <nessita> stand up in 2'
[13:59] <nessita> fagan: stand up first!
[13:59] <fagan> nessita: will do
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <nessita> alecu, mandel, fagan, thisfred?
[14:00] <fagan> me
[14:01] <alecu> me
[14:01] <thisfred> me
[14:02] <fagan> dont think mandel is back yet
[14:02] <nessita> DONE: london sprint
[14:02] <nessita> TODO: windows control panel
[14:02] <nessita> BLOCKED: tests are not passing on u1client
[14:02] <nessita> NEWS: we're going back to the "work only on bugs". IE, do not submit a branch without a bug attach to it, idelly created before the branch was started :-)
[14:02] <nessita> NEXT: fagan
[14:02] <fagan> DONE
[14:02] <fagan> * played about more with that branch
[14:02] <fagan> TODO
[14:02] <fagan> * Get the branch merged in and the tests finished
[14:02] <fagan> Blocked
[14:03] <fagan> * by stupidity
[14:03] <fagan> next alecu
[14:03] <alecu> DONE: team sprint
[14:03] <alecu> TODO: catch up with windows port
[14:03] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:03] <alecu> NEXT: thisfred
[14:03]  * fagan should have added the team sprint to the done item :D
[14:04] <nessita> mandel, alecu: we're having a mumble meeting re the windows port right after the stand up (well, a couple of mins later so we can grab some tea)
[14:04] <thisfred> DONE: worked on ubuntuone-couch release TODO: get ubuntuone-couch uploaded, help anyone with anything BLOCKED: no
[14:05] <alecu> nessita, ack. Do you know if anyone besides ralsina is on leave?
[14:06] <nessita> alecu: ralsina and dobey are on leave, though dobey may do some work today to try to fix the tests
[14:08] <nessita> everyone: please say "ack" if you understood what I meant regarding "work only on bugs"
[14:10] <nessita> mandel, alecu, fagan, thisfred: ^?
[14:10] <fagan> ack
[14:11] <nessita> mandel, alecu: meeting in mumble in 20 minutes
[14:11] <alecu> ack
[14:11] <thisfred> ack
[14:11] <nessita> thanks!
[14:11]  * thisfred files bug: Work On Stuff
[14:11] <thisfred> :P
[14:11] <nessita> lol
[14:13] <dobey> guess i should maybe make a thing for tarmac to require a linked bug with --fixes to land stuff
[14:22] <nessita> mandel: you back?
[14:29] <nessita> does anyone has the cell phone number from mandel? if so, please tell me in private
[14:34] <nessita> I repeat: does anyone has the cell phone number from mandel? if so, please tell me in private (the one in the directory is old from Belgium)
[14:34] <nessita> ralsina: ping
[14:34] <dobey> nessita: directory?
[14:34] <dobey> oh
[14:34] <nessita> :-)
[14:39] <nessita> rodrigo_: ping
[14:52] <nessita> alecu: until we have the meeting, what are you planning on working on?
[14:57] <alecu> nessita, right now I'm catching up with warthogs, and will do my pending expenses and will start looking into the pending gnome keyring 3 bug.
[14:57] <alecu> nessita, what about you?
[14:58] <nessita> alecu: I just filed a couple of bugs and I'm trying to remember where I left the cloud-folders tab, to create the merge proposal
[14:58] <nessita> alecu: the keyring 3 bug will have to be postponed, we have some hard dates on the windows port
[14:58] <nessita> alecu: that was the meeting about, I'm "desperately" looking for mandel to have the meeting and sync up
[15:00] <alecu> nessita, I know that the keyring 3 bug can wait, but I was planning on taking a look at it while we are idle on the windows side...
[15:00] <nessita> alecu: let's un-idle you in the windows side! :-D
[15:00] <nessita> alecu: do you have any pending branch?
[15:02] <nessita> alecu: I'll review now https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-control-panel/more-devices-tab/+merge/63292, what about you starting with the preferences/settings tab?
[15:02] <alecu> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-control-panel/more-devices-tab
[15:02] <alecu> that one
[15:02] <nessita> on it
[15:03] <alecu> nessita, I don't like that we keep building and have not tried this on windows yet.
[15:04] <nessita> alecu: I agree. But until we have a proper planning meeting with mandel, who for now we depend on, there is not clear path for testing this on windows
[15:04] <mandel> nessita: sorry I'm back had an emergency to sort out...
[15:04] <nessita> and as far as we foresee there should not be (tm) differences for that code (assuming we have the SyncDaemonTool)
[15:04] <nessita> mandel: mumble please?
[15:05] <mandel> nessita: sure on it
[15:08] <nessita> alecu: mumble please?
[15:08] <alecu> one minute
[15:08] <nessita> sure! thanks
[15:12] <rodrigo_> nessita, pong
[15:12] <nessita> rodrigo_: is ok, no need now :-)
[15:14] <rodrigo_> nessita, ok :)
[15:14] <nessita> thanks!
[16:13] <nessita> alecu, mandel: first bug tagged with u1-zomg-windows! bug #797199 :-P
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 797199 in ubuntuone-control-panel "Implement cloud folders tab in the QT version (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/797199
[16:13] <nessita> and the tag is now official
[16:14] <nessita> is also official for u1client
[16:14] <Uber_Geek> is there anyone in here that works on the windows client?
[16:15] <nessita> Uber_Geek: yes :-)
[16:15] <nessita> mandel: ping
[16:15] <mandel> nessita: pong
[16:15] <Uber_Geek> Sweet, i would like to get involved, and help make the windows version work better.
[16:16] <nessita> mandel: what's with the https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/use_txnamedpipes/+merge/61935? wasn't ralsina doing reviews for it?
[16:16] <mandel> nessita: no one was I'm going to go through by ranches and take a look, when done I'll send an email to you guys
[16:17] <mandel> I have not been bossy enough with the reviews
[16:17] <nessita> Uber_Geek: that's great! right now we're really hard on having a complete new version, using the same daemon as the one we use in linux. So I would advice waiting until we release this code, and then help us test it and improve it
[16:17] <nessita> mandel: PLEASE! :-)
[16:17] <nessita> mandel: also, if not present, add test instructions to the merge proposal so we can actually test the stuff (even if you already EOD'd)
[16:17] <Uber_Geek> nessita: anything I can do to help in the meantime?
[16:17] <mandel> ok
[16:18] <nessita> Uber_Geek: well, are you familiar with QT and css styling for QT?
[16:19] <Uber_Geek> no :(
[16:19] <nessita> Uber_Geek: is ok :-)
[16:19] <nessita> Uber_Geek: then there is not much you can help with at the immediate moment. Could you please re-ping us after June, 24th?
[16:19] <nessita> (if you're still available)
[16:20] <nessita> mandel: can I mark as approved this one https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/provide_credentials_management/+merge/62627 ?
[16:20] <Uber_Geek> I plan on following this for the forseable future.
[16:20] <nessita> nice
[16:21] <mandel> nessita: let me take a look
[16:22] <mandel> nessita: go ahead, it looks correct
[16:22] <mandel> actually I can do it, face palm
[16:24] <nessita> mandel: well, I trust you will update all your branches, so I'll now stop digging into them :-P
[16:24]  * nessita goes back to her stuff
[16:24] <mandel> hehehe
[16:40] <mandel> alecu: ping
[16:44] <mandel> nessita: ping
[16:44] <nessita> mandel: pong
[16:44] <mandel> nessita: can you review the following: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/use_correct_reactor/+merge/62961
[16:44] <nessita> mandel: sure!
[16:45] <mandel> nessita: allows to use the correct reactor according to the platform. Later we can add a bug that states that the reactor is no needed on linux
[16:45] <mandel> that way we try to fix the dbus issue
[16:45] <nessita> right
[17:06] <mandel> nessita: ping
[17:07] <nessita> mandel: pong
[17:07] <nessita> mandel: Text conflict in ubuntuone/controlpanel/gui/qt/gui.py
[17:07] <nessita> 1 conflicts encountered.
[17:08] <mandel> nessita: hm, something must have changed, will fix right now before I forget
[17:08] <mandel> nessita: this is a hard one, but can you take a look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/txnamedpipes/add_qt_integration/+merge/61923
[17:08] <mandel> nessita: if you feel you are not sure about it tell me and I'll get ralsina + alecu do it
[17:08] <nessita> mandel: I will certainly try
[17:08] <alecu> to do what?
[17:09] <alecu> oh, to review it.
[17:09] <mandel> alecu: review https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/txnamedpipes/add_qt_integration/+merge/61923
[17:09] <mandel> :)
[17:09] <alecu> ack
[17:09] <nessita> mandel: also https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/use_correct_reactor/+merge/62961 for alecu, right?
[17:10] <mandel> yes
[17:10] <mandel> nessita: but let me fix the stupid conflict :)
[17:11] <nessita> mandel: why calling QObject.__init__(self) instead of super()?
[17:12] <nessita> mandel: and why is this for "type(data) == type(False)"?
[17:13] <dobey> alright, now where are we, so i can get back to my stuff :)
[17:13] <dobey> mandel: ah your branch failed for other reasons :)
[17:14] <iheartubuntu> does U1 have a mobile site for smartphone users? im not really interested in streaming music, just accessing my data.
[17:14] <mandel> dobey: ok going to look
[17:14] <nessita> dobey: what was it this time?
[17:15] <dobey> nessita: it's mucking up permissions on stuff under _trial_temp, so trying to remove some things fails
[17:15] <dobey> or maybe that also happens in trunk?
[17:15] <nessita> dobey: but is that mandel's changes? I don't think so...
[17:16] <nessita> dobey: I would guess your tarmac trunk has a dirty _trial_temp, can that be it?
[17:16] <dobey> no
[17:16] <nessita> dobey: any other idea?
[17:16] <dobey> or well, it's dirty now, becuase of mandel's branch
[17:16] <nessita> dobey: mandel's branch does not play with dir perms, so is odd
[17:18] <mandel> well also because if I dif play it would be for windows
[17:18] <dobey> well i don't know what it is. i am just reporting the facts. empty dir, merge mandel's branch, run tests, boom.
[17:18] <dobey> mandel: well, and linux doesn't have a "hidden" file permission :)
[17:18] <mandel> dobey: ok, I'm going to take a look locally :)
[17:19] <dobey> i'm trying trunk to see what happens there
[17:19] <mandel> dobey: what do you mean with hidden ?
[17:20] <dobey> mandel: on windows, files can be "hidden" via an attribute/permission thing. i was just trying to think of some actual file permission that exists on windows that's in the FS :)
[17:20] <mandel> dobey: oh, yes true, and you also have other strange ones…
[17:20] <mandel> let me first fix  conflict I've got in a diff branch and then take a look at that
[17:21] <dobey> mandel: hooray for using utf-8!
[17:21] <mandel> dobey: you found the issue?
[17:22] <dobey> mandel: no, your sentence ended with "…" :)
[17:22] <mandel> haha
[17:23] <nessita> mandel: I asked you 2 questions before re your qt integration  branch: why calling QObject.__init__(self) instead of super()? and why is this for "type(data) == type(False)"?
[17:23] <iheartubuntu> does U1 have a mobile site for smartphone users? im not really interested in streaming music, just accessing my data.
[17:23] <dobey> i wonder if we can parallelize tests
[17:24] <dobey> iheartubuntu: there is a files app coming for android if that's what you're looking for
[17:24] <iheartubuntu> aawww im still stuck with an iphone
[17:25] <mandel> nessita: QObject.__init__ in most cases you cannot use super in PyQt, but I've just tested it and it works, so no real reason for this exact class
[17:26] <mandel> nessita: the type is that I want to make sure it is a <type bool>
[17:27] <nessita> mandel: then you should use type(True) == bool\
[17:27] <nessita> type(something) == bool
[17:27] <mandel> nessita: what's the diff?
[17:28] <nessita> mandel: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/txnamedpipes/add_qt_integration/+merge/61923 line 89
[17:28] <mandel> nessita: I have a question about the FakeSdtool class in control panel, what is it for?
[17:29] <nessita> mandel: before going to that, let's have a conversation at a time :-) Are you ficing the type() thingy?
[17:29] <nessita> fixing*
[17:30] <dobey> nessita, mandel: i am also seeing the file permissions things in trunk
[17:30] <nessita> dobey: you fixing it as well? :-D
[17:30] <dobey> if i knew what was wrong i'd fix it, but i don't
[17:31] <nessita> mandel: please answer me before I swicth my attention to something else :-)
[17:31] <dobey> problema por chicharros :)
[17:31] <nessita> dobey: can you please cry outloud for help to chicharreros?
[17:31] <mandel> nessita: let e think about the answer
[17:33] <mandel> nessita: I really do not see the difference between the code you propose and the one is present? is it a matter of style?
[17:33] <nessita> mandel: not only style but confusing people
[17:33] <nessita> mandel: someone can easily do: False = 'a;
[17:33] <nessita> False = 'a'
[17:34] <nessita> and then your code will be checking against the string type
[17:34] <dobey> nessita: hrmm, i wonder if some weird condition is being hit due to the broken tests setup/teardown/super usage all over the place
[17:34] <mandel> nessita: well, yes that is the same arg used when doing c, but if the assing Fals to a string, wel they are stupid… I can change it if you want
[17:35] <nessita> mandel: yes please
[17:36] <nessita> ok, I need to reboot due to  font update breakage
[17:37] <mandel> alecu: nessita: I need to walk we dog will be back soon
[17:44] <nessita> mandel: I'm back
[17:45] <nessita> mandel: ping?
[17:52] <nessita> mandel: please ping back when you're here
[17:55] <dobey> nessita: am running tests on your testingit branch to see if it also has perms errors
[17:56] <nessita> dobey: let me know
[18:02] <dobey> nessita: not sure. your branch ate all my ram, and i got the inotify "too many open files" in it :(
[18:02] <dobey> it was 1.4G and climbing when i killed it just now :(
[18:02] <nessita> dobey: ouch
[18:02] <nessita> dobey: if you review the changes, you can check that they make sense... anyways, not funny to ran out of RAM
[18:02] <nessita> alecu: you're back! :-) I was feeling lonely
[18:03] <dobey> nessita: check what changes?
[18:03] <nessita> dobey: those from my branch
[18:04] <alecu> jajaja
[18:07] <dobey> nessita: i'm not saying they don't, but stuff is obviously broken :)
[18:07] <dobey> exceptions.AttributeError: 'FakeNetworkManager' object has no attribute 'busName'
[18:07] <dobey> like that
[18:08] <nessita> dobey: is that u1client trunk? :-(
[18:08] <nessita> dobey: yes things are broken. Not sure how to escalate this, can I suggest you try to define a plan of action with phil?
[18:09] <dobey> that was from your branch. some of the tests were failing with that, intermixed with the inotify issues
[18:09] <nessita> dobey: I would love to help, I like fixing this kind of messes. But for now, I can't
[18:09] <nessita> dobey: oh
[18:09] <nessita> weird
[18:09] <nessita> hum I think I removed that because as far as I saw it was not needed
[18:09] <dobey> well, that's fine, but we do need to fix the perms issue that's in trunk, and blocks branches now
[18:09] <nessita> yes
[18:13] <mandel> nessita: pong
[18:13] <mandel> tell me :)
[18:13]  * pfibiger just noticed he got pinged.
[18:14] <nessita> mandel: I added comments for both branches for minor fixing, the test request is not that minor and I would like to read your opinion on that one
[18:14] <dobey> i don't know if i'd call that a ping, so much as a dereferencing :)
[18:14] <pfibiger> hehe
[18:15] <mandel> nessita: which branch is the test request one?
[18:15] <nessita> mandel: in the txnamedpipes
[18:16] <mandel> nessita: ok, well that is a complicated thing to do… we could fake the integration, but I'm not happy about that.
[18:16] <mandel> nessita: other thing to do would be to test the logic of the diff test, which also seems a little off for me, but more doable
[18:16] <nessita> mandel: what about tetsing the class you're developing? not the integration itself. Can that be done?
[18:17] <mandel> nessita: yes, we could test the implementation of the event, eventFilter and postevent methods
[18:18] <nessita> mandel: would that be quickly doable?
[18:18] <mandel> nessita: not nice because is not very tdd, but we can do that… the problem is that that class does the interleave of the reator which I have no clue of how to test.. maybe if I look in twisted trunk ..
[18:19] <mandel> nessita: yes, is doable, and will brin some coverage to the code, it would stop from other people braking it, but I'm not a happy camper on how the test would look
[18:19] <mandel> nessita: I dont know how to explain it, but they will look artificial
[18:19] <nessita> mandel: not sure what that means at code level
[18:19] <nessita> I mean, when applied to code
[18:19] <mandel> nessita: fragile tests
[18:20] <nessita> mandel: can't we do plain unit tests where we don't depend on other components such as twisted?
[18:20] <mandel> nessita: yes, I'll write classic unittest that ensure the logic on the methods used for the inegration work as expected
[18:21] <mandel> should not be too much work
[18:21] <dobey> nessita: seems like facundo is only chicharros around today; and i don't see him on irc :(
[18:21] <nessita> mandel: thanks (do not spend too much time on that please)
[18:21] <nessita> dobey: facundo is on swap day today, now that you mention
[18:21] <mandel> nessita: wont
[18:21] <dobey> nessita: then nobody is around; lucio and verterok are on holiday, and the new guy is, well, new :)
[18:21] <mandel> nessita: I'll do that in an hour, I was going to go to rugby, tom I'll move to the argetina timetable
[18:22] <nessita> mandel: ok. Is there any chance you fix the conflict first? (in the other branch)
[18:22] <nessita> so alecu and I can do the review
[18:22] <mandel> nessita, dobey: before I go, in the test case of the sd in the tear down one of the methods ensures that the readonly files are read-write so that they can be deleted, maybe the issue is there
[18:22] <mandel> nessita: just pushing it right now
[18:23] <nessita> mandel: great
[18:23] <dobey> mandel: maybe; i suspect it's probably not getting called now, with the changes to devtools or something :(
[18:24] <dobey> ugh, there are lots of chmod calls
[18:24] <mandel> dobey: I think that the base test case they use for that does not inherit from the dev-tools test case, but I'm saying this from the top of my head
[18:25] <mandel> dobey: yes, lots of the, for each time you create the dirs used by the sd integration tests
[18:25] <nessita> dobey: I would guess the chmod-cleanup is being done in tearDown instead of inside a self.addCleanup call, so if there is a failure, tearDown is not called
[18:25] <mandel> s/the,/them
[18:25] <nessita> dobey: (but those cleanup functions registered with self.addCleanup will be called even in case of errors)
[18:25] <mandel> nessita: one question, the test_install_bookmarks_extension, does it always fai?
[18:26] <nessita> what I meant was: tearDown is not called if there is an exception inside setUp
[18:26] <nessita> mandel: it never fails, it has nothing in it (I would guess)
[18:26]  * nessita checks
[18:26] <dobey> nessita: tearDown should be called still; afaik twisted adds tearDown with an addCleanup()
[18:26] <mandel> nessita: I get a timeout
[18:26] <nessita> mandel: where's the error?
[18:27] <nessita> dobey: I'm pretty sure tearDown is not added as a addCleanup
[18:28] <nessita>     768         d.addBoth(self.deferRunCleanups, result)
[18:28] <nessita>     769         d.addBoth(self.deferTearDown, result)
[18:28] <mandel> nessita: ubuntuone.controlpanel.integrationtests.test_dbus_service.OperationsTestCase.test_install_bookmarks_extension
[18:28] <nessita> dobey: is not added as a cleanup :-)
[18:28] <mandel> nessita: I just get tiral telling me that is still running after 3
[18:28] <mandel> seonds
[18:28] <dobey> nessita: ok, whatever, doesn't matter, because we're not hitting the case you're talking about, since the tests are passing :)
[18:28] <nessita> mandel: are you up to date? and I mean every single package (u1devtools)
[18:29] <dobey> nessita: ie, the tests pass and tearDown itself is failing, it seems
[18:29] <dobey> or just not ever getting run
[18:29] <nessita> dobey: ok, then I better focus on this windows thingy
[18:29] <dobey> similar to the problem we are having with the InvalidDBusSession thing :(
[18:29] <mandel> nessita: yes.. but I;ve got strange issues with my testing vm, when I get back from rugby I'll test in a real up to date natty
[18:30] <nessita> mandel: ack
[18:30] <mandel> nessita: I'll ping you with the results :)
[18:30] <mandel> don't hate windows too much
[18:30] <nessita> mandel: please
[18:30] <nessita> too late!
[18:30] <nessita> :-P
[18:37] <dobey> hmm
[18:49] <dobey> need to buy more ram :(
[19:06] <dobey> nessita: hrmm, i've got part of it fixed it seems, at least :)
[19:06] <nessita> dobey: yeah? great. What was it?
[19:06] <dobey> nessita: what i last suspected; inlinecallbacks/setup/teardown fiasco :(
[19:07] <nessita> hu
[19:07] <nessita> uh
[19:07] <dobey> i don't know if i understand the dbus tests in syncdaemon well enough to fix it right though
[19:08] <nessita> dobey: if you have specific questions I can try to help you
[19:09] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/626733/
[19:10] <dobey> those are the 2 failures i'm currently getting (some other weirdness as well, but this is the big blocker atm)
[19:10] <nessita> looking
[19:11] <dobey> i changed the tests to yield d and use inlineCallbacks, but didn't help
[19:13] <nessita> dobey: I would add several prints inside  the if reply_handler: block to see what branch is entering in and what's the value of args_list
[19:14] <nessita> dobey: seems like what the dbus call is returning is not what the test expects. Can you please show me what changes you made re: inlinecallbacks+setup+teardown?
[19:20] <dobey> hmm
[19:22]  * dobey tries
[19:26] <dobey> nessita: seems those two tests block on the "            config.get_user_config().set_udf_autosubscribe(not result) calls in the disabled reply handler
[19:27] <nessita> dobey: I'm lost, can you rephrase using two "? :-D
[19:27] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/626742/
[19:27] <dobey> current diff
[19:27] <dobey> nessita: sorry, paste issue; closing " should have been after the (not result)
[19:27] <dobey> "config.get_user_config().set_udf_autosubscribe(not result)"
[19:28] <nessita> dobey: I know what the problem is
[19:28] <nessita> dobey: you removed the BaseTwistedTestCase as parent class, which takes care of restoring the user config
[19:29] <nessita> dobey: which is in turn used as a precondition (to be in a given state, the default) for the tests
[19:29] <dobey> hrmm, ok
[19:29] <nessita> dobey: the tests are failing because they assume they have an initial config that is not being there
[19:30] <nessita> (since that config is being messed up by other tests and no one is restoring it)
[19:30] <nessita> dobey: makes sense?
[19:30] <dobey> yes; but doesn't make sense that they were the only 2 that failed there :)
[19:31] <nessita> dobey: well, it depends on the order the tests executed, this time the previous tests left the config in a way ionly 2 are broken
[19:31] <nessita> only*
[19:31] <nessita> dobey: the easy fix is to restore the config at setUp, for example
[19:31] <dobey> well i've fixed that by fixing the inheritance
[19:32] <nessita> like BaseTwistedTestCase does in its setUp. So you can define the config default setting outside and call that from the 2 test cases, without inheriting from both
[19:32] <nessita> ok
[19:32] <dobey> now i have stuff like this all over the place: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/626749/
[19:32] <nessita> looking
[19:32] <dobey> DBusExceptions but tests still pass
[19:34] <nessita> dobey: ah, that is another bug that I think we need to report and ask chicharreros to fix. The test itself is not waiting for all the dbus communication to finish
[19:34] <nessita> dobey: but enough communication happened so the assertion pass OK
[19:34] <nessita> dobey: I would go ahead and leave that in place filing a High bug
[19:39] <dobey> ok
[19:40] <dobey> am making sure running all tests pass now with no perms errors from rm
[19:41] <nessita> dobey: yey!
[19:49] <dobey> whoot
[19:55] <Uber_Geek> silly question, when I Check out a working copy of the windows installer, I get 3 empty folders, am I doing something wrong?
[19:56] <dobey> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/test-trial/+merge/64591
[20:09] <nessita> dobey: looking
[20:11] <nessita> dobey: changes make sense, running suite now
[20:19]  * thisfred as well
[20:27] <nessita> test ran surprisingly fast
[20:27] <nessita> dobey: did you remove most of them? :-P
[20:27] <nessita> dobey: big approve
[20:29] <dobey> lol, i wish
[20:30] <dobey> yay, perfect timing. just about time for another tarmac pass :)
[20:30] <nessita> dobey: we owe you cake, you know
[20:30] <nessita> though I would happily trade windows work for fixing tests :-D
[20:31] <alecu> nessita, we'll get cake as well for you working on windows.
[20:31] <nessita> alecu: that's encouraging, thanks :-)
[20:32] <dobey> mmm, cake
[20:35] <thisfred> nessita: hmm, tests are SUPERslow here. Weird
[20:35] <nessita> thisfred: you broke it!?!?!?!? :-P
[20:35] <thisfred> nessita: I'm running tests for dobey's branch as well. They've been going for half an hour or so...
[20:36] <nessita> thisfred: that is not good: Ran 2220 tests in 288.987s
[20:36] <thisfred> ah AND I get errors:
[20:36] <nessita> thisfred: is you u1devtools up to date?
[20:36] <thisfred> maybe not
[20:36] <thisfred> damn
[20:36] <nessita> Version: 0.1.3+r36-10~natty1
[20:37] <thisfred> yep, one revision behind
[20:37] <nessita> thisfred: the key one
[20:37] <thisfred> maybe they'll be fast now too!
[20:37]  * thisfred retries
[20:38] <nessita> let us know
[20:41] <dobey> nessita: landed; and set mandel's back to approved, so it should land now on the next run in a few minutes :)
[20:41] <nessita> great!
[20:41] <dobey> and i guess i'll just have to have another day as my swap day instead
[20:42] <dobey> since at this point i'm about a half hour shy of being here a full day :P
[20:54] <dobey> nessita: and mandel's branch hath landed
[20:55] <nessita> that's great
[20:58] <dobey> so i am off. :)
[20:58] <dobey> later
[20:58] <nessita> bye!
[21:06] <thisfred> Ran 2220 tests in 1266.447s
[21:06] <thisfred> PASSED (skips=6, successes=2214)
[21:07] <thisfred> still 5 times slower. On my 8GB i7, but there you go. Are you using a quantum computer, nessita? :)
[21:12] <nessita> thisfred: nopes, an i5 with 8G ram
[21:18] <nessita> food time!
[21:19]  * nessita chews some almonds
[21:20] <Uber_Geek> nummy
[21:24]  * fagan is back but has to go again :/
[21:25] <fagan> Uber_Geek: what installer are you talking about?
[21:26]  * fagan just read the scroll back
[21:27] <fagan> The installer is old I wouldnt be supprised if it was broken in some way
[21:27] <nessita> fagan: were you delayed because of the ashes as well? :-P
[21:27] <fagan> nessita: the ashes?
[21:27] <alecu> Ok. So it's Kung Fu Panda right now, and a bit more Windows joy later.
[21:27]  * alecu waves
[21:27] <Uber_Geek> fagan: I was wanting to look at the source for the windows installer.  Nessita mentioned a complete rebuild of the windows version, but I was hoping to look to see why it was doing some specific activities on my system.
[21:28] <nessita> bye alecu, please remember to send your email at your final eod :-)
[21:29] <fagan> Uber_Geek: yeah that installer hasnt been updated for months so there wouldnt be much point in looking at it
[21:29] <fagan> bye alecu
[21:29] <fagan> nessita: oh you mean cricket
[21:29] <fagan> Ive never watched a game in my life
[21:29] <fagan> :)
[21:30] <fagan> Ok gtg will make up the 2 hours tomorrow
[22:21] <nessita> ok, I'm off bye all!
[22:42] <iheartubuntu> question: there was some ubuntuone updates today, which I installed, and now U1 will not connect. Anything I can do? thanks!
[23:04] <iheartubuntu> question: there was some ubuntuone updates today, which I installed, and now U1 will not connect. Anything I can do? thanks!


[08:40] <dholbach> good morning!
[08:42] <nigelb> dholbach: sorry about last night, I had left work by then :)
[08:42] <nigelb> I mailed you :)
[08:43] <dholbach> nigelb, no worries
[08:43] <dholbach> so how's the project going?
[08:43] <nigelb> dholbach: I've been totally out for a month thanks to no laptop, getting it back today \o/
[08:43] <dholbach> excellent
[08:43] <dholbach> did we make much progress in the last few weeks/months?
[08:44] <nigelb> Not much :(
[08:44] <nigelb> Actually, I did get it to 1200, its back up 1400+
[08:44] <nigelb> I need to sit down iwth it today
[08:45] <dholbach> we need to get more people involved again
[08:45] <dholbach> it can't be just you doing it
[08:45] <nigelb> I know, I need to plan around it
[08:45] <nigelb> its kinda tough wthout computer access :)
[08:47] <dholbach> yeah, I can imagine
[23:10] <Justin__> hello room
[23:11] <Justin__> has anyone here ever dealt with ntfs drives under ubuntu server?