[16:10] <OerHeks> rahules, well, now it is gone, maybe testdisk can recover
[16:10] <daftykins> rahules: that disk is an absolute mess
[16:10] <daftykins> i'd start again if i owned that :)
[16:10] <rainbowwarrior> daftykins, I will have a play when I get it , I know the asus adaptor I have works with ubuntu perfectly . so i could just buy another one if needed. :)
[16:10] <OerHeks> rahules, use a live iso, install testdisk and follow the manual http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[16:10] <rahules> daftykins: OerHeks , So I should try testdisk to recover and then do a fresh installation?
[16:11] <EriC^^> rahules: testdisk time
[16:11] <rahules> Dangit
[16:11] <daftykins> but you backed up right?
[16:11] <EriC^^> maybe you can just recover the ubuntu partition
[16:11] <EriC^^> it looks like it's missing before the swap
[16:11] <daftykins> sda1 being extended is definitely nuts++
[16:11] <OerHeks> rahules, maybe positive news: in this case, fresh install, very good chance testdisk will find partitions immediatly ..
[16:11] <rahules> daftykins: I really did, but unfortunately, I wiped the exact partition where I had backed up my stuff to install windows without thinking
[16:12] <EriC^^> sectors 2046 til 761479167
[16:12] <daftykins> oh you never store a 'backup' on the same disk.
[16:12] <OerHeks> one big extended
[16:12] <rahules> I'll try testdisk. Hopefully it can recover about 200GB worth of files
[16:12] <daftykins> buy yourself a nice external drive perhaps
[16:12] <daftykins> or a NAS
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk
[16:13] <raub> How can I mount an ext4 local partition as a given user?
[16:13] <rahules> daftykins: Yea, I was going to put it in an external hdd but I couldn't get the time
[16:13] <rahules> EriC^^: thanks. I'll try that.
[16:13] <daftykins> rahules: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdX# /media/mountpoint -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: you don't need to recover the files, just recover the whole partition while keeping the rest there too, or just that partition if you can't keep windows
[16:13] <daftykins> sorry the above was for raub ^
[16:13] <daftykins> silly irssi
[16:13] <EriC^^> rahules: stick around in you try testdisk, we've used it many times here
[16:14] <EriC^^> *if
[16:14] <rahules> EriC^^:  I really don't need the windows installation. It was just for a temporary requirement
[16:14] <EriC^^> rahules: well, it doesn't matter, if they partitions don't overlap then it's ok
[16:15] <EriC^^> you'll just be writing the old partition's where abouts
[16:15] <rahules> Okay, I'm booting in to live disk no
[16:15] <__nemo__> Hey. Im trying to clone a disk to another using 'dd'. The problem is that the two disks arent the same size (500GB HDD -> 240GB SSD) , so I cant straight clone bit by bit. is there a way I can create the partitions and copy the data, but ignore the "whitespace"? Ive tried creating the partitions on the SSD through gparted, but I cant make enough primary partitions. The program stops at 4, but the original HDD contains 6 partitions, all who ap
[16:15] <rahules> now*
[16:15] <raub> daftykins: Thanks but my question was for ext4, not ntfs
[16:17] <daftykins> raub: ah yes, same deal just a mental hiccup :D
[16:17] <daftykins> just substitute ntfs for ext4
[16:17] <daftykins> but bear in mind you'll have on-disk permissions after that too
[16:18] <raub> daftykins: I am being told those options are unrecognized
[16:18] <daftykins> raub: pastebin or it didn't happen.
[16:18] <daftykins> as fun as it is to help people out when blind, i'd rather see...
[16:19] <EriC^^> daftykins: lol
[16:19] <EriC^^> pastebin or it didn't happen :D
[16:21] <wileee> __nemo__, Are you backed up otherwise prepared for any failure?
[16:22] <wileee> you can straight clone if that all fits on the ssd anyway, think about it a minute.
[16:22] <__nemo__> wileee: Yes I should be fine if the copy breaks.
[16:22] <__nemo__> wileee: ye all the data fits on the new drive. Im just worried the partitionsizes will make something stop
[16:24] <wileee> __nemo__, dd is fine I never use it so can't help there is all. I would resize the first partitions to be just slightly smaller than the size overall on the ssd.  I'll find out in 0-9 hours :)
[16:30] <wileee> __nemo__, Good luck. ;)
[16:31] <__nemo__> thnx
[16:31] <mcglitch> Error: Could not find or load main class minecraft.jar
[16:32] <teward> you have to pass -jar i think with it
[16:32] <daftykins> mcglitch: you're probably not in the same folder as it .
[16:32] <teward> at least, with oracle java
[16:32] <teward> but you should be in the same folder as the jar, yes.
[16:34] <mcglitch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11967691/
[16:34] <rahules> EriC^^: Can you please tell me how I can recover the partition with testdisk? I've analysed the disk and I am presented with a list of partitions where the Linux partition is being shown. But there is no 'Write' option
[16:35] <mcglitch> i have no clue what that means
[16:37] <Sbur> I just got a Wifi ac adapter for my desktop. The brand = COMFAST, Model CF-912AC. It doesn't work.  How can I troubleshoot it to see if it is a power issue or a driver issue or something else?
[16:37] <mcglitch> i cant even google this error ...
[16:38] <daftykins> Sbur: identify the actual chipset by looking for its' lsusb or lspci entry to start with
[16:38] <nicomachus> mcglitch: looks like "libXtst.so.6" doesn't exist.
[16:38] <nicomachus> but I have no idea, because java.
[16:39] <mcglitch> yea i have no clue to
[16:39] <daftykins> rahules: i think in an ideal world you'd be restoring it to another disk
[16:39] <mcglitch> also because java
[16:39] <Sbur> daftykins: Ok, will do.  But I will need to do that offline as I can't get it to show Wifi when it is connected.  Brb
[16:40] <daftykins> wat
[16:40] <rahules> daftykins: No way I can recover the partition table? Because when I tried listing the files in testdisk, i think all the files were being detected
[16:40] <tgm4883> nicomachus: yep, that is what that means
[16:41] <daftykins> rahules: i'm sure EriC^^ will be your best bet when he returns :>
[16:41] <EriC^^> rahules: yes, 1 min :)
[16:41] <rahules> daftykins: thanks.
[16:41] <rahules> EriC^^: sure.
[16:41] <Dstevens08> hey guys
[16:41] <daftykins> lo
[16:41] <ioria> mcglitch, locate libXtst
[16:42] <mcglitch> ok got a fix, just to let yuou know i folowed this stuff and its resolved now http://askubuntu.com/questions/613881/how-to-open-minecraft-jar
[16:43] <Sbur> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967737/
[16:43] <mcglitch> god damit, it dint fix the bug
[16:43] <mcglitch> i still have graphical glitches
[16:43] <daftykins> mcglitch: change driver next then.
[16:43] <OerHeks> no need to swear, mcglitch
[16:44] <mcglitch> its not swearing
[16:44] <Sbur> daftykins: Am I in trouble if I want this to function?
[16:44] <daftykins> mcglitch: don't argue.
[16:44] <mcglitch> ok, but what you recomend then?
[16:45] <mcglitch> last time i changed drive i had to reinstall the entire os
[16:45] <daftykins> what did i just say?
[16:45] <daftykins> then you messed up :)
[16:45] <tgm4883> you shouldn't need to reinstall because you installed a driver
[16:45] <tgm4883> mcglitch: how did you install the driver
[16:46] <EriC^^> rahules: i'm back
[16:46] <Sbur> daftykins: ur busy ... I'll be back
[16:46] <mcglitch> software updates?
[16:46] <daftykins> Sbur: takes me more than 5 seconds to check a link - ugh
[16:46] <rahules> Hey EriC^^ , So after analysing and a quick search, testdisk showed the Linux partition but there is no
[16:46] <rahules> there is no 'Write' option
[16:46] <EriC^^> rahules: after you press quick search, you get the partitions it found, use the right arrow to select it to be in the partition table
[16:47] <EriC^^> rahules: try to get all the partitions there, the linux and windows one, using the right arrow
[16:47] <tgm4883> mcglitch: and what happened that made you need to reinstall?
[16:47] <EriC^^> anything you write there will be the new partition table, so if you only choose the linux one, the windows will disappear
[16:47] <rahules> EriC^^: Ok, let me try that
[16:47] <mcglitch> it would not output to the display at all
[16:48] <rahules> EriC^^: So, how do I set them. Should everything be primary?
[16:48] <tgm4883> mcglitch: so you didn't see BIOS, you didn't see the boot screen either?
[16:48] <rahules> Including linux swap?
[16:48] <EriC^^> rahules: i'd try to make it like it was, i dunno
[16:49] <mcglitch> i got no signal from the graphics card wen the driver crashed
[16:49] <EriC^^> rahules: you had an extended one with linux and swap and 2 primaries for windows i think
[16:49] <tgm4883> mcglitch: could you ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console?
[16:49] <mcglitch> idk
[16:49] <tgm4883> mcglitch: yes, yes you could
[16:50] <mcglitch> its like typing blind
[16:50] <tgm4883> mcglitch: what do you mean?
[16:50] <rahules> EriC^^: using the arrow keys, I can only set it to primary bootable, primary or logical
[16:50] <mcglitch> the display said no signal
[16:50] <EriC^^> rahules: set the linux and swap to logical, and windows to primary
[16:50] <rahules> and when I set swap as logical, it says bad structure
[16:51] <tgm4883> mcglitch: switching to TTY1 wouldn't use your proprietary graphics drivers
[16:51] <EriC^^> rahules: hmm, try the linux as logical, and windows as primary, forget the swap you can easily recreate it
[16:51] <mcglitch> what is tty1?
[16:51] <rahules> EriC^^: okay
[16:52] <tgm4883> mcglitch: that is where you go when you hit ctrl-alt-F1
[16:52] <tgm4883> mcglitch: it's a console
[16:52] <timbozeman> Can I make F8 send paste keys (ctrl + v) through the system shortcuts settings?
[16:52] <daftykins> try it and see
[16:53] <mcglitch> nice try tgm
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> timbozeman  system settings > keyboard> shortcuts
[16:54] <mcglitch> i got stuck in the dam terminal
[16:54] <rahules> EriC^^: Sorry, forgot to set windows as bootable. Have to load live cd and try again
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> mcglitch  what are you struggling with?
[16:54] <EriC^^> rahules: did you press write in testdisk?
[16:54] <mcglitch> http://postimg.org/image/wuvnbawar/
[16:55] <rahules> EriC^^: yes
[16:55] <mcglitch> graphics bug in minecraft
[16:55] <mcglitch> already changed java
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> oh, minecraft
[16:55] <mcglitch> so thats not the isue
[16:55] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, i think you can set the bootflag from fdisk
[16:55] <rahules> EriC^^: okay. I'm booting back in to live cd. Maybe fdisk will show the linux partition
[16:56] <raub> daftykins: sorry for taking so long, but http://pastebin.com/NJFKqCaT
[16:56] <mcglitch> im runing nvidia dv352.30 but im afrade to change driver cuz last time it tanked the my gpu compleetly
[16:57] <raub> daftykins: Can we now say it happened? ;)
[16:57] <daftykins> raub: you appear to have typed ext3 but i thought you mentioned ext4 earlier
[16:58] <daftykins> raub: show me a "sudo parted -l"
[16:58] <mcglitch> sude i try the nouveau driver or an older nvidia driver?
[16:58] <rahules> EriC^^: Can you check the output of 'fdisk -l' here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11967827/ . Does this look ok? Can i try grub install now?
[16:58] <daftykins> mcglitch: no to nouveau
[16:59] <raub> daftykins: I did it from scratch since I have no access to the other machine right now
[16:59] <rainbowwarrior> hi cfhowlett  just want to let you know that 15.4 and 15.10 does not see the hp 4507 printer and that was with an old version and latest version of hplip
[16:59] <mcglitch> wel only other option is the older nvidia driver then
[16:59] <OerHeks> Glitches in minecraft, if you zoom in you see a windows 10 logo
[16:59] <daftykins> raub: so why v3?
[16:59] <tgm4883> mcglitch: uh, yes. You would end up in a terminal. That's what I said would happen. Then we can look at some logs and see why it wasn't starting properly
[17:00] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[17:00] <daftykins> raub: you are messing around mounting as root, you've got to change permissions after a normal mount to actually write as a user to it :)
[17:00] <tgm4883> mcglitch: and you aren't stuck, ctrl-alt-f7 would bring you back to the graphical environment
[17:00] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, whaaaaaaa? sorry to hear you're still fighting with this.  sadly, the best option is for HP to support their hardware by releasing a driver.
[17:00] <raub> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967846/
[17:00] <mcglitch> wish me luck
[17:00] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett I agree
[17:00] <rahules> I did EriC^^ . Should I make sda5 (Linux partition) bootable?
[17:01] <EriC^^> no, i guess it doesn't matter but set the windows one to bootable
[17:01] <raub> daftykins: I thought mount by default was a root command
[17:01] <daftykins> raub: yeah but you use sudo...
[17:01] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett I downgraded back to 14.04 and works fine with hplip
[17:01] <cfhowlett> rainbowwarrior, nicely done!
[17:01] <raub> daftykins: what is the different between executing mount as root vs as sudo?
[17:02] <raub> besides keeping records?
[17:02] <daftykins> raub: so you can keep it simpler than that. as the user - "sudo mount -t /dev/sdb1 /mount/point -o user,auto" then "ls -al /mount/point" and pastebin that to see issues
[17:02] <daftykins> i'll let you look that one up at your leisure
[17:02] <rahules> EriC^^: I made the windows partition bootable but I am looking to boot in to grub. So what would be the next step
[17:02] <EriC^^> rahules: type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[17:02] <raub> daftykins: do you want also it to be ext4?
[17:03] <daftykins> raub: that's up to you, i'm ok :)
[17:03] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett my next experiment will be either next week or the week just after that when I get an MSI GP70 and play with the wifi card lol :)
[17:03] <cfhowlett> best of luck!
[17:03] <rahules> Mounted it EriC^^
[17:03] <rainbowwarrior> cfhowlett,  thank you :)
[17:03] <EriC^^> rahules: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:04] <twonics> hi guys. if there are two NICs on a server (1x LAN, 1x DMZ), on which NIC do I set a default gw if both NICs on the firewall are configured to have an upstream gw anyway. so on both NICs on the server you could theoretically go out to the internet.
[17:04] <EriC^^> type the above line rahules
[17:05] <rahules> Ran  it too EriC^^
[17:05] <temp_HD4600> Hello. I'm on 15.04, on a machine with Intel Graphics HD4600. For some reason I can't get video output on HDMI, only on DVI. Anyone has any clue?
[17:06] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: with something else connected, or as the sole display?
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> hi , how do i donate to ubuntu please ? As I have had lots of help from you great people in here, so would like to donate soon :)
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> !Topic
[17:06] <sarkyniin> hey
[17:06] <dave102> guys can anyone tell me how i can use grep to exclude a directory in bash? im currently in / and want to exclude /mnt recursively
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> !donate | temp_HD4600
[17:06] <sarkyniin> is there any application that allows me to change a key binding in a single application/window?
[17:06] <rainbowwarrior> MonkeyDust thank you :)
[17:06] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, I have 2 cables: one DVI and another HDMI, both running to the same TV. I'm only connecting DVI because I don't have another screen and I need to use this computer. I figured once I get HDMI working I'll unplug DVI.
[17:06] <daftykins> dave102: #bash might be handy if you get no response
[17:07] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok well cold boot (i.e. from powered off) with just HDMI connected, DVI totally removed... and see what happens.
[17:07] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[17:07] <dave102> daftykins: doesnt necessarily need to be form bash just from a terminal
[17:07] <dearn> Hey guys. Not really Ubuntu related - My PC doesn't boot, I cannot even enter bios setup, it keeps bootlooping with A2 error (MSI Motherboard). I found advice on net to try restarting CMOS. How to do that? Is taking out battery enough? Because it tried and nothing changed
[17:07] <temp_HD4600> ok will do and report back.
[17:07] <raub> daftykins: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967877/
[17:07] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:07] <Raulwynn> So I've been working with 15.04 and I can't find any reason to stay with Ubuntu. It can't perform simple tasks without using 10x the resources as Windows or OSX. I can't even play online videos with a Wolfsdale and a nvidia GTX 660. How can I get my computer to perform using more than 10% of it's capability?
[17:08] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[17:08] <daftykins> dave102: yeah but they might know...
[17:08] <dave102> daftykins: ok thanks
[17:08] <rainbowwarrior> !participate
[17:08] <daftykins> raub: so now "sudo chown -R user: /tmp/user/"
[17:09] <vbotka_> dearn, there shall be a pin on the motherboard to reset the CMOS
[17:09] <daftykins> s/pin/jumper/
[17:09] <rahules> EriC^^: It says installation finished without error. So, should i try rebooting?
[17:09] <TJ-> dearn: if that's an ATX motherboard (not a laptop/notebook) then removing the CMOS battery and/or shorting the CMOS reset pins should be sufficient. Check the motherboard manual for accurate details of course
[17:09] <EriC^^> rahules: not yet, type update-grub
[17:09] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:10] <EriC^^> rahules: type nano /etc/fstab, comment out the line that says swap
[17:10] <EriC^^> add a # before it
[17:10] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, same behavior. I just noticed something too: bios boot screen doesn't show on HDMI. Think I should change something in BIOS? It's a Gigabyte z97n board
[17:10] <aktx> http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/07/29/tape-your-webcam-horrifying-malware-broadcasts-you-to-the-world
[17:10] <rahules> EriC^^: the line below swap right
[17:11] <dearn> vbotka_: TJ- the problem is there are is no 'jumper' not sure how to call it on those pins - in manual it says no 'jumper' on reset pins means it keeps date, and putting 'jumper' on them resets it - but I don't have this thingy (jumper?) to put on pins
[17:11] <EriC^^> rahules: the one that says UUID=....... swap 0 0
[17:11] <Guest20846> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:11] <Guest20846> any ideas ?
[17:11] <rahules> EriC^^: yes. Okay, commented it
[17:11] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: is it the only HDMI cable you have? and only input on the TV? if you have another system i'd be handy to SSH in and read the X log to see what's going wrong.
[17:12] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type exit, then restart
[17:12] <TJ-> dearn: "jumper" just means shorting the pins... hold a metal screwdriver blade across them , or anything small and electrically conductive
[17:12] <dearn> TJ-: is taking battery enough? I even tried putting it (but not all the way down) (as it said on MSI youtube video) but maybe I have to press it all the way down?
[17:12] <rahules> ok EriC^^ . fingers crossed
[17:12] <raub> daftykins: It worked! http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11967900/
[17:12] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, in what sense "only"? I have other peripherals connected to the TV. But not an hour ago I had another laptop connected to the same HDMI input of the TV (that laptop running Linux Mint and ATI graphics card). So I'm almost sure it's not the TV.
[17:13] <twonics> hi guys. if there are two NICs on a server (1x LAN, 1x DMZ), on which NIC do I set a default gw if both NICs on the firewall are configured to have an upstream gw anyway. so on both NICs on the server you could theoretically go out to the internet.
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: don't be so shocked :P
[17:13] <dc> Hi, I've a problem and no idea howto:
[17:13] <dearn> TJ-: aight I'm gonna try that now.. I'm kinda worried something is f**d with my Motherboard. :( Thats what happens when you try to upgrade to Windows 10
[17:13] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok. fully updated install?
[17:13] <cfhowlett> dearn, you might want search for your device's service manual.  it'll answer those specific types of questions
[17:13] <raub> So the uid=,gid= do not work in ext as I originally thought
[17:13] <cfhowlett> !details | dc
[17:13] <raub> but the option user takes care of that
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: no, still wrong. the permissions on the file system are still there regardless.
[17:13] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, yes. I was on 3.19 kernel, and just to try things I just upgraded to 4.1.3
[17:13] <TJ-> dearn: when you remove the battery there are capacitors on the motherboard that may hold charge for a minute or more, but by shorting the CMOS reset pins it directly grounds the integrated circuit CLEAR signal
[17:13] <dearn> cfhowlett: all it said was to put metal thingy on those pins ut I don't have it so I' gonna try with screwdriver as TJ- suggested
[17:13] <daftykins> raub: no it does not :)
[17:13] <Raulwynn> !details | ubuntu
[17:13] <Guest20846> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:14] <Guest20846> and how can I change my nickname ?
[17:14] <teward> Guest20846: repeating yourself doesn'thelp
[17:14] <Raulwynn> !fail
[17:14] <teward> so don't repeat
[17:14] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: ok so SSH in and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log when booting with just HDMI to see what's up
[17:14] <teward> Guest20846: /nick SomeOtherNickHere
[17:14] <raub> daftykins: can you explain it?
[17:14] <dearn> TJ-: ok gonna try it again, also is that true that holding power button (with power supply off) will discharge capacitors?
[17:14] <daftykins> raub: sorry nope.
[17:14] <raub> k
[17:14] <Guest20846> :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
[17:15] <rahules> It is working EriC^^ . I thought I had lost all my data. You've been a lifesaver. Thank you very much
[17:15] <teward> Guest20846: then pick another one
[17:15] <TJ-> dearn: it used to but less likely these days since ATX supplies generally are activated by a low-power signal rather than having their power directly controlled
[17:15] <EriC^^> rahules: great, no problem
[17:15] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, sorry but what do you mean SSH in? I'm now on this machine itself with that behavior, and I just cold-booted on HDMI (then when it was a black screen, re-plugged DVI to be able to log in). Will the logs be available?
[17:15] <EriC^^> rahules: you wanna make the swap partition?
[17:15] <dc> Hi
[17:15] <dc> wget -P . https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/myplace/myfile.txt --no-check-certificate
[17:15] <dc> ERROR 404:not found
[17:15] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: no since the log is now that of being DVI connected.
[17:15] <dearn> TJ-: thanks
[17:15] <daftykins> !ssh | temp_HD4600
[17:16] <teward> dc: check the remote server error logs - 404 NOT FOUND means that either the server is saying it doesn't exist, or it intentionally returned that coded
[17:16] <cfhowlett> dc looks like you have an incorrect download url
[17:16] <rahules> EriC^^: yes I'd like that
[17:16] <dc> teward: Exist
[17:17] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda, and make a swap partition in the free space
[17:17] <EriC^^> brb
[17:17] <rahules> EriC^^: okay
[17:17] <dc> cfhowlett: I think is a config problem on remote, but I have no idea were
[17:18] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, sorry to be such a pushover but I'm new to this. If I install putty, do I use a machine on the same domain to ssh to this one? (since when on HDMI I can't see anything)
[17:18] <TJ-> dc: is the file accessible to the http server user ID?
[17:19] <OerHeks> " wget -P . https/... " is that dot a typo?
[17:19] <Guest80777> hi
[17:19] <daftykins> temp_HD4600: two systems, same network. if both are Linux, you open a terminal and type "ssh IP_address_of_other" assuming openssh-server is already installed.
[17:19] <dc> TJ-: Localy yes
[17:20] <dc> OerHeks: dot
[17:20] <Guest80777> yes, i like that new ubuntu core thing
[17:20] <TJ-> OerHeks: No, -P . is the default directory to download to... and the default if -P isn't used so unnecessary
[17:20] <daftykins> PuTTY is simply the Windows client.
[17:20] <temp_HD4600> daftykins, ok I'll configure ssh here and try to find my way around it
[17:20] <Guest80777> true, putty is windows client for connecting to unix/linux
[17:20] <TJ-> dc: if the server runs as the www-data user, does the file have ownership/permissions for that user?
[17:20] <Guest80777> and other good one is kitty, which is based upon putty
[17:21] <daftykins> Guest80777: yes, but not relevant to the current conversation.
[17:21] <Marezz> hello everyone! :)
[17:21] <daftykins> hello
[17:22] <dc> TJ-: Ah, may be thats the problem. Ill change it and ... Ill guive news. Thanks, Bye
[17:22] <dearn> TJ-: touch JBAT1 (reset pins according to documentation) with 2 screwdrivers didn't help... one last thing - will taking CMOS battery out for whole night will be enough to make sure problem is not BIOS related ?
[17:22] <EriC^^> rahules: i'm back
[17:22] <rahules> Ok EriC^^ , I've made the swap partition. Should I restart after write?
[17:23] <EriC^^> rahules: no, type sudo blkid
[17:23] <TJ-> dearn: if you've shorted the reset pins that would be sufficient. Are there add-in PCI adapter  cards plugged in? In these cases it often helps to remove everything, disconnect disk drives, and just try to get the Mobo+CPU+RAM+video to start
[17:23] <rahules> I did EriC^^
[17:23] <EriC^^> rahules: get the UUID and then type sudo nano /etc/fstab and replace the old UUID with the new one
[17:23] <TJ-> dearn: when the PC powers-on does the CPU fan start turning?
[17:24] <rahules> EriC^^: it's not showing the swap partition.
[17:24] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo parted -l
[17:24] <EriC^^> do you see it there?
[17:25] <dearn> TJ-: yes they do and it starts to bootloop with A2 on bottomright of screen. When I spam F2/delete it also shows info about "Entering Setup" but it resets before doing so
[17:25] <rahules> EriC^^: it's showing the partition but the file system part is blank
[17:26] <dearn> TJ-: gonna try unplug wifi card and graphic card as well and try to start it from integrated one
[17:26] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo mkswap /dev/sdxY rahules
[17:26] <EriC^^> replace sdxY with it's number
[17:26] <Sbur> daftykins: I can't see my Wifi thing under lsusb or lspci
[17:27] <rahules> ok EriC^^ , now it's showing the block id
[17:27] <TJ-> dearn: what is the exact model number of the motherboard?
[17:27] <daftykins> Sbur: is it USB or what?
[17:27] <EriC^^> ok, replace the uuid
[17:27] <rahules> EriC^^: I did
[17:28] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type sudo swapon /dev/sdxY
[17:28] <Sbur> daftykins: It connects in the USB port, yes.  And it is supposed to be usb 3
[17:28] <Sbur> I don't know whether or not my ports support usb 3
[17:28] <rahules> Done EriC^^
[17:28] <yodaantifa> can I repeat niw?
[17:29] <yodaantifa> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop !
[17:29] <xcyclist> I am re-asking this here, even though Ubuntu may do it differently, because nobody seems to be at home in redhat land, as one might expect:  What is the dot in the far right column of ls -l file permission reporting like:  -rw-r--r--.    ??????
[17:29] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, type free -m , does it show up?
[17:29] <Sbur> daftykins: I don't know whether or not my ports support usb 3
[17:29] <rahules> EriC^^: I just tried htop and  it's showing swap
[17:29] <daftykins> Sbur: they'd be blue or have a "SS" logo beside them if they were v3.0. you might want to unplug it, run "lsusb" then plug it in again and re-run "lsusb" to see which entry is added
[17:29] <Sbur> daftykins: brb
[17:29] <EriC^^> rahules: ok, cool
[17:29] <rahules> Yes, free -m is also showing swap
[17:30] <rahules> Thanks for your help again EriC^^ , really appreciate it
[17:30] <xcyclist> Is that kind of dot in file permissions even used outside of redhat?
[17:31] <EriC^^> rahules: no problem :)
[17:32] <geronimo_> ive a problem, the thing at the top of the screen that displays menus icons and clock is missing .can i restart a processes to fix?
[17:32] <rahules> EriC^^: one more thing, will there be any problem with boot if I had to delete the windows partition?
[17:33] <ex0r> Hmm.. I had ubuntu 14.04 and windows 7 dual booted together, and ubuntu was the default boot OS. I recently upgraded my win7 to win10, and it overwrote the boot order it appears because it automatically boots into windows 10 now without even prompting.. how can I fix this?
[17:33] <TJ-> xcyclist: not sure; it could be indicating there are some ACLs set on that entry
[17:33] <cfhowlett> ex0r, reinstall grub
[17:33] <cfhowlett> !grub | ex0r
[17:33] <EriC^^> rahules: no, i don't think so
[17:33] <rahules> okay, thanks :)
[17:33] <ex0r> yes, that will help.
 in my experience the easyest thing to do is to download a boot repair live cd !
[17:33] <EriC^^> np
[17:34] <ex0r> That will work, thank you.
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: I'm back with an answer
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[17:35] <daftykins> had a feeling it was that one
[17:35] <Sbur> daftykins: This is the only change in lsusb.  No change in lspci
[17:36] <daftykins> well yeah because you didn't unplug a PCI device
[17:36] <Sbur> daftykins: Is that a problem?
[17:36] <daftykins> nah i'm just pointing out how it was pointless to check PCI devices
[17:36] <daftykins> so apparently that might be a Realtek RTL8812AU device
[17:37] <MoPac> Hello. I think this is probably just a Google-fu failure, but I'm wondering if there is a standard way to try out Ubuntu Gnome in an LXC? (Or, I guess, to replicate the old "gnome fallback" without messing with any current Unity settings. I just want to have a poke at it in a way that's easily reversible.
[17:37] <Sbur> daftykins: I'm sorry, but as you probably can see, I'm a noob
[17:37] <daftykins> Sbur: is your install fully up to date?
[17:37] <Sbur> daftykins: As far as I know, yes
[17:37] <daftykins> check
[17:38] <Sbur> daftykins: But my mother board ... grandmother board.  MS7502
[17:39] <Sbur> daftykins:just did.  Not up to date, but I will change that immediately
[17:39] <daftykins> why are you telling me your motherboard?
[17:40] <Sbur> daftykins: Should that fix the problem or will I need another repo?
[17:40] <daftykins> Sbur: update, restart, then click the dash icon top left and type "additional drivers" - see if you are offered any
[17:40] <Sbur> daftykins: Sorry, when you asked me if it was up to date ...
[17:41] <Sbur> daftykins: Update what?  I did my software update
[17:41] <daftykins> yeah the OS.
[17:41] <daftykins> since we're in an OS support channel
[17:42] <Sbur> daftykins: what is the "dash icon top left"?
[17:42] <yodaantifa> Sbur how did you update ?
[17:42] <Sbur> yodaantifa: Software updater
[17:42] <Sbur> yodaantifa: Like I always do
[17:42] <Sbur> brb
[17:43] <yodaantifa> oh ok ! I thoght you update by terminal, cause sometimes there is confution between the commands :D
[17:49] <yodaantifa> hello! I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Dell latitude d630 laptop and it worked great until my last update, now it loads up and after 2 minute or such it freeses ! crtl+alt+bckspace does nothing crtl+f1 does nothinhing, if something with audio on it gets in a loop ! any ideas what should I chek first ?
[18:00] <BenMcLean> my ubuntu won't do higher screen resolutions
[18:00] <BenMcLean> I tried the commands on this blog post http://www.thefourtheye.in/2013/04/ubuntu-screen-custom-resolution.html
[18:00] <BenMcLean> the screen goes blank for a bit then comes back unchanged
[18:00] <Sam___> So I reinstalled windows 7 on my dualboot ubuntu (they are in different partition) now when I choose windows in grub page I see this one before windows start to boot. http://imgur.com/wRxejZC
[18:01] <Sam___> Ubuntu 14.04
[18:01] <BenMcLean> how do I make the screen resolution bigger? I have a TV hooked up to this laptop with HDMI
[18:01] <BenMcLean> right now it's even the wrong ratio
[18:01] <EriC^^> !xrandr
[18:01] <cfhowlett> Sam___,did dualboot ever work?
[18:02] <TJ-> BenMcLean: the correct resolution depends on the display reporting the valid modes to the GPU using a data structure called EDID. If that fails then the GPU won't know which modes are valid. To check for that, look for EDID messages in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:02] <Sam___> Oh everything works on windows and ubuntu but I get that screenshot error before getting to windows
[18:03] <Sam___> Yes dual boot worked aswell
[18:03] <MoPac> Has there been any recent (last 6 months) progress on multi-touch support in Unity7, or is all that development in Unity8? I'm wondering if I'll really have to wait for 16.04+ to do anything other than the couple of default window gestures.
[18:05] <Sam___> cfhowlett: Yes dual boot worked aswell . I just dont like to get that error
[18:06] <BenMcLean> TJ- here's what it says http://pastebin.com/0T1M8j6g
[18:08] <dc> hi
[18:08] <dc> Hi, the same file, 3 diferent ways, 3 diferent responses:
[18:08] <dc> wget -P . https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/myplace/myfile.txt --no-check-certificate
[18:08] <dc> Doing from remote: ERROR 404:not found
[18:08] <dc> Doing from local, but over the net, it means giving my external IP: Connecting with ... connection refused
[18:08] <dc> Doing from local -localhost or <IP_ADDRESS> -> OK
[18:09] <OerHeks> !paste
[18:09] <daftykins> dc: right so you're not listening remotely then.
[18:10] <TJ-> BenMcLean: looks like there could be more useful info in that file, can you pastebin the entire contents? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:10] <dc> daftykins: telnet works
[18:10] <BenMcLean> no. didn't know there was a pastebinit. I found the first occurrence of EDID and pasted from there. i will pastebin the whole thing
[18:11] <TJ-> dc: That sounds like you've not got the correct VirtualHost configuration for the public IP/hostname
[18:11] <BenMcLean> TJ- here! and thanks for telling me about pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968234/
[18:12] <TJ-> BenMcLean: look at lines 170/1 - those look like the correct modes don't they?
[18:13] <BenMcLean> TJ- look. in the log. but that's not the actual sizes I'm seeing
[18:13] <BenMcLean> i typed those in at the command line
[18:13] <dc> TJ-:ok, iLL CHECK
[18:13] <BenMcLean> er, "terminal" -- whatever, i'm new to linux ^_^
[18:14] <user__> hi
[18:15] <TJ-> BenMcLean: What is the make/model of the TV?
[18:15] <BenMcLean> lemme see ... it's vizio
[18:15] <BenMcLean> but i gotta turn it round and look at the back, brb
[18:16] <TJ-> BenMcLean: OK ... all those "HDMI max TMDS frequency 230000KHz" suggest a bad or plain incorrect EDID
[18:16] <server-help> 1fUbuntu12.041f.......anyone?
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | server-help
[18:19] <daftykins> server-help: that's not a question
[18:19] <cfhowlett> !details | server-help, no detailz = no answerz.
[18:21] <server-help> I have a 12.04 server that hangs on boot just after the bit about IPv4 addressing.  Then 1fUbuntu12.041f.... repeats several tims across the top of the display and then nothing
[18:22] <cfhowlett> !server | server-help see the server channel
[18:23] <javii> hola?
[18:23] <BenMcLean> TJ- what would you suggest doing?
[18:23] <BenMcLean> would trying a different HDMI cable help
[18:24] <javii> hi
[18:25] <TJ-> BenMcLean: first thing is to get the manual for the display and determine what it is capable of on the HDMI port, then figure out what the GPU sees via EDID, and then maybe discover why it is selecting and then changing the 1920x1080 mode
[18:25] <TJ-> BenMcLean: which is why I asked for the model number
[18:25] <javii> alguien que hable español?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !es | javii
[18:26] <BenMcLean> oh right i'm sorry, i didn't get that yet, did i
[18:26] <javii> graciass
[18:28] <jake_> hello again
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> jake_: welcome, what can we do for you?
[18:29] <jake_> Aaah, nothing for now. :) But thanks!
[18:31] <tgm4883> TJ-: it's not uncommon for the EDID to just be bad either. It's possible he'd need to set ignoreEDID and set it up manually
[18:33] <poopsniffer> \server irc.irchighway.net
[18:36] <nuk3> hey guys, anyone know exactly which font / suite of icons, are required to display the "Valid Name" and "Valid Executable" tick icons when editing quick launch icons in Cinnamon?
[18:36] <BenMcLean> JD- I got the TV model, but a coworker found the real problem for me
[18:37] <BenMcLean> I was attempting to mirror my laptop display
[18:37] <BenMcLean> Ubuntu limits mirrored displays to the smallest display being mirrored
[18:38] <BenMcLean> So while on Windows 8.1, plugging in a big screen TV takes you to the big screen TV's resolution, doing the same thing on Ubuntu limits you to the laptop's resolution unless you turn the laptop's built-in display off
[18:38] <EriC^^> you can set mirroring off and have different resolutions on both
[18:38] <BenMcLean> once I turned the built-in display off, I could go to 1080p or whatever
[18:40] <SCHAAP137> so, a higher resolution than the laptop can technically handle, gets downscaled to the laptop's screen?
[18:40] <SCHAAP137> like, 1920*1080 scaled to 1600*900 because of plugging in that external Full HD screen?
[18:41] <EriC^^> i think he means just the monitor
[18:41] <tgm4883> SCHAAP137: sounds more like the laptop's 1600x900 gets upscaled to the TV
[18:41] <BenMcLean> The laptop can't do 1600x900 apparently
[18:41] <BenMcLean> it was weird
[18:42] <mircx1> !pate
[18:42] <BenMcLean> limited to 1024x768 if mirrored, but can go to 1080p if i turn the built-in display off
[18:42] <SCHAAP137> and if you used extending instead of mirroring?
[18:42] <mircx1> Hello
[18:42] <mircx1> how i fix this a error
[18:42] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968417/
[18:42] <SCHAAP137> mirroring will just copy the exact same screen, you could just run them as separate ones
[18:43] <SCHAAP137> *while you could
[18:43] <mircx1> someone please?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[18:45] <mircx1> what?
[18:45] <mircx1> how i fix this please?
[18:45] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11968417/
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> mircx1  that is the outout of what exactly?
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> output
[18:46] <ki7mt> And what was the command that initiated the error.
[18:53] <TJ-> mircx1: If you're running the compiled binary without installing it, you must use the .libs/ generated output so that the shared library dependencies can be located
[18:57] <mircx1> ok then how i fix it?
[18:57] <mircx1> i try run something
[18:57] <mircx1> and this a firt time i see problem
[18:58] <TJ-> mircx1: execute the binary in the .libs/ directory. What application is it?
[18:58] <Horseface> hello
[18:59] <Euphoria42> Hello Horseface
[19:00] <Horseface> i can_t find de_loadkeys1 on my sistem after a reboot
[19:00] <Horseface> ls -R | grep de-latin1 no results
[19:00] <Euphoria42> Did you select that keymap when you installed?
[19:01] <Horseface> yes. Ir worked perfectly for month. I just started the computer and it|s english now
[19:01] <Euphoria42> Ah, i see.
[19:01] <Euphoria42> Im looking into this, give me a second
[19:02] <Horseface> loadkeys de-latin1 gives the following output
[19:02] <Horseface> Loading de-latin1
[19:02] <Horseface> /usr/bin/ckbcomp: Can not find file "symbols/de-latin1" in any known directory
[19:03] <mircx1> TJ i dont know how i check this what commands for it in Terminal?
[19:03] <TJ-> mircx1: you've already been asked - what is it you are actually doing?
[19:05] <Euphoria42> Horseface, can you change the keymap by going into settings and then Text Entry? http://i.imgur.com/DTAESsO.jpg
[19:06] <Horseface> i|m using gnome3 and ubuntu 14.04... i|ll try to find it
[19:07] <Euphoria42> Oh, im sorry. That may be a Unity specific thing. Let me know but ill keep looking.
[19:08] <mircx1> TJ- i run something from ubuntu 14 this janus anyway in oter system is run ok but my question how i fix the error?
[19:08] <mircx1> is have maybe commands for this or i need install something?
[19:09] <Horseface> there is a keyboard layout switch in the bar, but i can|t change it there either.
[19:09] <TJ-> mircx1: We have no idea what 'something' is, and it doesn't look like you're trying to use an Ubuntu package. You'll probably be better asking the organisation that supplies the software you're trying to use
[19:09] <blackrat> hello all
[19:09] <blackrat> someone here is alive?
[19:10] <Euphoria42> Horseface, Does it look like this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/81nDH.png
[19:10] <mircx1> TJ- i give to you the error
[19:10] <Horseface> zup
[19:10] <Horseface> yup
[19:10] <Euphoria42> alright
[19:11] <mircx1> if you dont know what problem in here then why you say i need go to package
[19:11] <TJ-> mircx1: you're compiling some non-Ubuntu software we have no idea what it is, that isn't an Ubuntu support issue
[19:11] <OerHeks> mircx1, providing just that error is not enough
[19:11] <Horseface> no wait. The specific entry for Text entry settings is missing in this menu
[19:11] <Euphoria42> Horseface, is their an option to change it if you pick Text Entry Settings?
[19:11] <OerHeks> !details | mircx1
[19:12] <ioria> maybe this https://github.com/danieldg/janus/blob/master/c-src/ssl-gnutls.c
[19:12] <mircx1> when i make configure
[19:12] <blackrat> I have a question... I got a laptop with wifi conection, and PC, but in my PC WIFI card is broken. I got a RJ45 cable and i think to connect laptop-PC and using internet on this way... but i don't have any idea how do this
[19:12] <mircx1> the janus irc  i get this
[19:12] <Horseface> @euphoria sry, it is still different. wait i|ll try to make a screenshot
[19:13] <Euphoria42> Alright
[19:14] <Sbur> daftykins :  I have not yet checked about new drivers, but, if I don't have needed drivers for my Wifi dongle, what is the first thing to do?
[19:14] <TJ-> mircx1: ioria You need to read the manuals for mircx, and ask the developers of that package: see http://mircx.forumotion.net/t326-guide-install-janus-irc
[19:15] <Euphoria42> blackrat, try looking up Connection Bridging your probably find stuff there
[19:16] <mircx1> TJ- this not what i find anyway thanks about your help
[19:18] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 weird... suddenly i can|t take screenshots
[19:19] <Euphoria42> Horseface, I think i've found it. in gnome settings. http://i.imgur.com/Jewkgav.png
[19:19] <Euphoria42> and then click the little plus button under Input Sources
[19:20] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 exactly thanks what next?
[19:21] <ThinThread> which ubuntu should i dev (c++11) on for best binary distribution properties?
[19:22] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i|ll have to reboot. Thx.
[19:22] <Euphoria42> Horseface, oh did that fix it?
[19:23] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 Idk there are 2 menues, one for the Device and one for Language and Keyboard-format
[19:24] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i can|t find my region to pick. So i thought i just restart
[19:26] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 i'll try restart if it doesn't help i'll be back
[19:27] <Euphoria42> Horseface, hold on im getting a screenshot set together
[19:27] <Euphoria42> lets try that first
[19:31] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 Ok reboot brought no results
[19:32] <Euphoria42> Horseface, you should be able to change your keyboard format by following this: http://imgur.com/a/Pimsf
[19:33] <Horseface> @Euphoria42 right. Thanks
[19:33] <user__> привет)
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !ru | user__
[19:41] <Euphoria42> Why do none of the Ubuntu sites mention linux at all anymore? ;_;
[19:42] <plytro> I don't know... I see it http://www.ubuntu.com/search?q=linux
[19:42] <Euphoria42> plytro, those are articles on kernel vulnerabilities.
[19:42] <daftykins> !ot | Euphoria42
[19:45] <hellohentai> anyone up
[19:45] <plytro> its 145 in the afternoon
[19:45] <plytro> of course i'm up
[19:45] <hellohentai> wonderful
[19:45] <hellohentai> could you  give me some help
[19:46] <Euphoria42> hellohentai, Don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[19:46] <hellohentai> well
[19:46] <hellohentai> i have a live usb for ubuntu 15.04
[19:46] <hellohentai> and i just built a new pc, trying to get ubuntu as primary os
[19:47] <hellohentai> but whenever i attempt to boot from the usb drive
[19:47] <daftykins> ...it gives you free ice cream? adopts a kitten?
[19:47] <hellohentai> i get stuck at the mobo logo screen, and i any buttons i press on the kb have no effec
[19:47] <daftykins> and it stalls there permanently?
[19:47] <hellohentai> and if i remove the usb the logo screen goes to the boot menu
[19:47] <daftykins> were you installing in EFI mode?
[19:48] <hellohentai> so i plug the usb back in(boot menu)
[19:48] <Euphoria42> Its possible that the USB key is screwed up
[19:48] <hellohentai> yup everything is gpt uefi
[19:48] <hellohentai> and no usb key is confirmed working
[19:48] <hellohentai> if i plug the usb back into the computer while in boot menu
[19:48] <hellohentai> i can select OS
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> hellohentai  don't hit the enter key so often, it's getting a headache
[19:48] <OerHeks> sounds some usb connector plugged in wrong, building a pc is easy
[19:48] <daftykins> ^ less enter key pressing please.
[19:48] <OerHeks> yeah, easy on the enter
[19:48] <hellohentai> right, my bad
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <tear> For all who are homosexuals or ADDICTED TO PORN or alcohol (so called drunkards) or are FULL OF LUST (e.g. furry-fetish) or hatred - hell is awaiting you!! - Repent and turn from your sins! - Get delivered by Jesus today! He can set you free! You can only find forgiveness of your sins through Jesus! - http://goo.gl/fJcyNy / http://goo.gl/ynvsVu / http://goo.gl/i2W3v3 / http://goo.gl/uHnOGP /
[19:48] <tear> http://goo.gl/hJHNmo - There is no forgiveness if you don't stop with your sin / turn/repent from your sins! Btw. Sex outside of marriage [between 1 man and 1 woman (I don't speak of divorce&remarriage because divorce&remarriage = adultery)] is called fornication and is a sin as well.
[19:48] <daftykins> are you typing from a live session?
[19:49] <Guest93072> how to install linux kali?
[19:49] <daftykins> Guest93072: Kali is not supported here.
[19:49] <daftykins> !kali
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest93072  not supported here
[19:49] <Euphoria42> Can someone please mute him
[19:49] <daftykins> what, twice?
[19:49] <Euphoria42> tear, thats not supported here
[19:49] <daftykins> Euphoria42: just ignore it.
[19:49] <Guest93072> good
[19:49] <hellohentai> i can select os, but if i try to do anything(i.e., run from drive, write onto disk, etc) it doesnt work
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> Euphoria42  wait until it's over
[19:49] <teward> !ops | tear is a spambot
[19:50] <teward> confirmed by dual striking in other channels as well
[19:50] <daftykins> hellohentai: which OS did you make up the flash drive from?
[19:50] <hellohentai> my monitor just shows as no signal and i am stuck in the loop
[19:50] <hellohentai> i made the drive in windows 7 home premium
[19:50] <Pici> teward: and? the bot already took care of it.
[19:50] <daftykins> hellohentai: with which program?
[19:50] <hellohentai> I amade it with rufus
[19:51] <teward> Pici: it took it and +q'd it - won't help long term.  thank you TonyBareta
[19:51] <teward> erm
[19:51] <teward> tonyyarusso:
[19:51]  * teward kicks tabcomplete
[19:51] <teward> unless you're suggesting Drone wouldn't -q it, Pici
[19:51] <daftykins> hellohentai: go back to your windows system and confirm the ISO was a good download by hashing it against the hashes available online
[19:51] <hellohentai> I've done that already
[19:52] <hellohentai> they are valid
[19:52] <daftykins> hellohentai: ok now run 'cmd' as admin, run diskpart then select your flash drive and run 'clean' on it.
[19:52] <daftykins> after this, remake your flash drive.
[19:52] <hellohentai> thanks, will be back soon.
[20:02] <dgarstang> Has ubuntu got .profile.d ?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> dgarstang  /etc/profile.d/
[20:04] <dgarstang> MonkeyDust: I was hoping for ~/.profile.d as well
[20:05] <bprompt> dgarstang:    I think is ~/.profile
[20:06] <dgarstang> bprompt: I know, but I wanted to append to .profile's functionality without having to maintain the file, hence multiple scripts in ~/.profile.d
[20:06] <Jamie_1> daftykins: do you think you can finish helping me figure out what is going on with my computer from yesterday?
[20:07] <daftykins> how far did we get?
[20:07] <daftykins> i slept since then... ;)
[20:07] <Jamie_1> daftykins: not really anywhere other than my hardware specs
[20:07] <TJ-> dgarstang: create the directory yourself, then use something like "run-parts" to execute scripts in the directory
[20:08] <daftykins> Jamie_1: oh the gnome3 black box thingy?
[20:09] <daftykins> hrmm what did i say last, i remember making a suggestion but then you said you had a meeting so couldn't mess with it...
[20:09] <daftykins> Jamie_1: give me a pastebin of your CPU model from /proc/cpuinfo
[20:09] <nixnine> have elementary installed.  aplay-l says no soundcard.  Any suggestions?  Just installed the os so wonder if I am missing a driver or something.
[20:10] <bekks> !elementaryos | nixnine
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> nixnine  elementary is not supported here
[20:10] <bekks> !elementary | nixnine
[20:11] <dgarstang> TJ-: I see. Maybe... but then I'd have to modify .profile still, which I wanted to avoid
[20:11] <quiscalus> howdy folks I am not a smart man that needs help
[20:11] <gabriel_> Hello All. After installing ubuntu 15.04 I keep getting freezing windows when minimizing any window, like firefox or even the terminal for that matter, help please...
[20:12] <Jamie_1> daftykins: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8841127
[20:12] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[20:12] <mahdi_ja> tonight i install last ubuntu kernel update and after restart system my wine not work
[20:13] <mahdi_ja> my wine version is 1.7.44
[20:13] <Jamie_1> daftykins: do you think swapping to a newer kernal version might help?
[20:13] <Jamie_1> i already tried swapping dm
[20:13] <mahdi_ja> and my kernel version is 3.13.0-59-generic
[20:14] <TJ-> dgarstang: you could simply modify the skeleton in /etc/skel/.profile which is used when new user accounts are added
[20:14] <dgarstang> TJ-: I know, but I'm using chef. That means I have to put the .profile into chef and git, and well, i dunno... i guess
[20:14] <TJ-> mahdi_ja: known issue, I saw it being traced and fixed yesterday. I think a bug-fix kernel will be in -proposed and released quickly
[20:15] <mahdi_ja> TJ-, thank you
[20:16] <Jamie_1> daftykins: actually im sorry... can i post pone this for like half and hour... forgot i have a meeting in five minutes... sorry about that
[20:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: mmm yeah so sandybridge i7. are you 100% sure you've installed the correct meta package that pulls in everything needed for a gnome3 desktop?
[20:16] <daftykins> Jamie_1: well go work on that, i'm gonna have some life to attend to this evening :) 9pm here
[20:16] <dgarstang> life? what's that?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !life | dgarstang
[20:17] <Jamie_1> daftykins: i did the full gnome installation from the net install... but it worked decently untill i swapped to a differnt kernal... but brb in a little
[20:17] <quiscalus> I am a dunce that needs help but it appears lots of other n00bs need help too
[20:17] <dgarstang> ubottu: :-\
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> quiscalus: fire away your question anyways mate
[20:17] <xangua> quiscalus: please don't call names
[20:20] <quiscalus> I got ubuntu mate 64bit for intel based hardware, checked the md5 sum to make sure all was well, made a usb with UUI, restart boot from USB live USB is a bit slow but everything appears functional, install all is well until installing grub 2 and I get a fatal error
[20:20] <quiscalus> I think the error was "grub-install /dev/sda" but I am unaware how to check error reports on this
[20:21] <quiscalus> once again I am very ignorant about the use of this distro and linux and general
[20:22] <quiscalus> also sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone with such language
[20:24] <Aleksandar86> i have database folder on DESKTOP and I need good tools for backup to HDD2
[20:24] <Aleksandar86> i wanna setup backup any day in 00:00
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> copy database folder to HDD2
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> name must be date of backup
[20:25] <Aleksandar86> or somthing similar
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  better ask in in #bash
[20:27] <Aleksandar86> maybe some people here know tool for backup
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  or do you want a GUI?
[20:28] <Aleksandar86> yes
[20:28] <Aleksandar86> or i can use script and shedule under Ubuntu
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Aleksandar86  yes, #bash can help you with scripting
[20:29] <diddledan> Aleksandar86: you want crontab
[20:29] <diddledan> Aleksandar86: or /etc/cron.daily
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> diddledan  yes, but he still needs a script to set the date as filename
[20:29] <gabriel_> Hello All. After installing ubuntu 15.04 I keep getting freezing windows when minimizing any window, like firefox or even the terminal for that matter, help please...
[20:29] <diddledan> MonkeyDust: `date`
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> diddledan  tell him, not me
[20:33] <mustmodify> On my dev machine, before installing the package, `ag` gave me two options... phython-ase and silversearcher-ag. On my client's server, I only get python-ase. Is it likely this is because they are running two different versions of ubuntu?
[20:35] <leeyaa> hello
[20:36] <EriC^^> hello
[20:36] <leeyaa> any idea why would kswapd0 use 100% cpu. machine isnt swapped
[20:36] <bomberman> Hi)
[20:37] <mustmodify> hello
[20:37] <mustmodify> apparently I was impolite. :P
[20:41] <biscuitking> chrome is maxing out my cpu - help!
[20:42] <humphrey2> How come you can still `ls` a directory even if its permissions are `r--` (no x permission)?
[20:42] <bekks> biscuitking: So close the tabs which content that maxes out your CPU.
[20:42] <EriC^^> humphrey2: x is just to cd
[20:43] <biscuitking> what is this compiz
[20:43] <biscuitking> ive justreverted to default
[20:44] <biscuitking> just a minute ago
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> !info indicator-cpufreq | biscuitking this helps me
[20:44] <biscuitking> let me try
[20:44] <biscuitking> thanks
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  it lets you choose between 4 cpu modes, it changes immediately
[20:45] <biscuitking> hmm, what am i supposed to type in terminal
[20:45] <biscuitking> indicator-cpufreq  ?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  apt install indicator-cpufreq
[20:47] <biscuitking> this compiz is a hog
[20:47] <xangua> (15:41:07) biscuitking: chrome is maxing out my cpu - help! - close tabs, avoid flash, close chrome¿ you don't really give any if no details
[20:47] <biscuitking> xangua, I've just reverted back to default chrome. cpu is better
[20:48] <bekks> biscuitking: What was "not default" on your Chrome?
[20:48] <biscuitking> a whole bunch of stuff.... i installed several extensions
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> frankenchrome, so to say?
[20:48] <biscuitking> ?
[20:49] <biscuitking> frankenchrome?
[20:50] <xangua> frankenstain
[20:50] <humphrey2> EriC^^: Ah. x permission is just to access the files within the directory.
[20:52] <biscuitking> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127240/missing-launcher-after-12-04-upgrade/127310#127310
[20:53] <biscuitking> that might be the solution for compiz. remove the compiz folder and reset
[20:53] <xangua> not really
[20:53] <biscuitking> no?
[20:53] <xangua> deteling compiz cinfiguration won't make it magically use half resources it uses
[20:53] <humphrey2> What is the point of having --x permissions on a directory?
[20:54] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "enter" the directory.
[20:54] <biscuitking> my cpu is constantly jumping from 5% to 40% due to compiz
[20:55] <xcyclist> I apologize for missing.
[20:55] <biscuitking> is seemed to have worked for the user in the link i posted. is there an alternative you can suggest. why is this thing such a resource hog?
[20:55] <biscuitking> is/it*
[20:55] <humphrey2> zykotick9: Thanks.
[20:56] <humphrey2> Is there any point to -w- permissions on a directory?
[20:56] <biscuitking> maybe unity --reset?
[20:56] <diddledan> humphrey2: man chmod
[20:56] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory.
[20:57] <biscuitking> xangua, ?
[20:57] <biscuitking> ^^
[20:57] <FourFire> Greetings
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  you can always try something different from unity
[20:57] <zykotick9> biscuitking: compiz uses a lot of resources... end of story.  you could use another DE/WM for something lighter.
[20:57] <FourFire> can I install Kernel 4.0.9 on my Ubuntu 15.04 without concern for everything breaking spectacularly?
[20:58] <tophs>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER tophs koptvzsujegu
[20:58] <FourFire> #ubuntu-kernel is distressingly idel
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> tophs  change your password!
[20:58] <FourFire> tophs, your pass is compromised
[20:58] <biscuitking> can you please recommend something else?
[20:58] <tophs> bummer.
[20:58] <FourFire> change it now
[20:58] <tophs> good thing i never use it. lol.
[20:58] <biscuitking> can you please recommend something else? MonkeyDust
[20:59] <xangua> FourFire: you can, but you will  probably get a not supported package
[20:59] <xangua> !mainline
[20:59] <FourFire> tophs, for future, always use the (freenode) "channel" for logging in
[20:59] <biscuitking> what is DE WM zykotick9 ?
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> biscuitking  http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[20:59] <FourFire> xangua, I don't know what that means, can you give an example of what would happen from a user perspective
[20:59] <zykotick9> biscuitking: sorry DE = Desktop Environment (Gnome/KDE/Unity/etc) and WM = Window Manager (fluxbox/openbox/awesome/etc)
[21:00] <biscuitking> if i use something else am i likely to break other apps? I like the gnome desktop
[21:00] <xangua> FourFire: not supported means you are on your own
[21:00] <xangua> !mainline
[21:01] <humphrey2> zykotick9: It doesn't as far as I can try...
[21:01] <FourFire> The last kernel which isn't an RC or unstable is 4.0.9-wily
[21:01] <FourFire> that's the one I'm asking about
[21:01] <zykotick9> humphrey2: sorry, i don't grok your statement
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  there's alos #ubuntu-kernel
[21:03] <FourFire> MonkeyDust, distressingly inactive
[21:03] <FourFire> like i siad
[21:03] <genii> FourFire: If you're running 15.10/Wily they might know more about it in #ubuntu+1
[21:05] <humphrey2> zykotick9: How am I supposed to write to a directory with permissions -w-?
[21:06] <zykotick9> humphrey2: you'd probably need read as well...  in the "
[21:06] <aktx> Throw the rules out the window, odds are you'll go that way too.
[21:07] <zykotick9> humphrey2: sorry, in the "old days" i used wx for an upload directory, so people could upload to it, but not see what was there.
[21:09] <zykotick9> humphrey2: as a test, i created a directory with wx and could copy files into it... but could "ls" in the directory.  What are you trying to do?
[21:09] <zykotick9> s/could/couldn't/
[21:10] <checo> 11
[21:10] <zykotick9> humphrey2: without x directories are pretty useless!
[21:11] <humphrey2> zykotick9: You said you could upload files to a -w- directory
[21:11] <humphrey2> You were wrong
[21:11] <humphrey2> You need the x
[21:11] <diddledan> zykotick9: humphrey2: without x you can still write to the directory as long as you don't try to "change" into that directory first
[21:12] <zykotick9> diddledan: i couldn't with wx... i just tried.
[21:12] <diddledan> e.g. echo foo > /some/w-only-dir/test
[21:12] <humphrey2> diddledan: I think that's wrong
[21:13] <humphrey2> diddledan: But I'll try it :)
[21:13] <zykotick9> humphrey2: i agree.  i get permission denied diddledan
[21:13] <humphrey2> zykotick9: Yup, me too.
[21:14] <zykotick9> humphrey2: "you where wrong" <- no i said with xw, just no read - for my old ftp setup, same here with my testing
[21:16] <humphrey2> [16:56] <humphrey2> Is there any point to -w- permissions on a directory? [16:56] <zykotick9> humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory.
[21:16] <humphrey2> zykotick9: ^^^
[21:17] <zykotick9> humphrey2: w does give write permission.  "...sorry, in the "old days" i used wx for an upload directory"
[21:17] <yourmommy> any guide to install oracle xe on ubuntu
 humphrey2: it allows the user(s) to "write" to/in the directory. <--- Not without the x permission
[21:20] <bobby_> Does anyone either have or know of anyone having real world experience with Ubuntu (any version or flavor) on an NVME drive such as the Intel 750 series?
[21:20] <tgm4883> humphrey2: true, but the x permission doesn't allow writing, it allows access
[21:21] <bubbasaures> bobby_, Exact experience does not matter, address the issue for help
[21:22] <bubbasaures> the channel is full of IT pros most if the time
[21:22] <bobby_> bubbasaures, what do you mean by that?
[21:22] <bubbasaures> !ask
[21:22] <bubbasaures> !details
[21:22] <bubbasaures> bobby_, ^^^^^
[21:23] <bubbasaures> bobby_, phishing the channel as you were will not get you results generally, addressing the actual issue will, is the point. ;)
[21:23] <bobby_> I was just wondering if I could use it as a boot drive instead of a more traditional (and slower) SATA drive
[21:23] <kjs> is it not possible to partition a system using kickstart ?
[21:24] <tgm4883> bobby_: I suppose that would depend on how the BIOS/UEFI sees the drive
[21:26] <bobby_> tgm4883, so what your'e saying is that if the motherboard supports it, it'll work theoretically or do you know from experience?
[21:26] <tgm4883> bobby_: if the BIOS/UEFI sees it as a drive, and presents it to the OS as a drive, why wouldn't you be able to use it as a boot device?
[21:27] <k1l_> bobby_: 99,9% all ssds work as traditional hdds, just much faster.
[21:27] <tgm4883> k1l_: the question is the interface, not that it's an SSD
[21:27] <bobby_> tgm4883, I know that the Linux kernel has supported it since 3.1 but I don't know if it matters if Ubuntu has blessed it
[21:28] <tgm4883> bobby_: you could always just try it ;)
[21:29] <tgm4883> bobby_: it's been about 10 minutes since you asked, you could be 2/3 though an install by now :)
[21:29] <theseb> possible to edit itunes account on ubuntu w/o using the Wine buggy monstrosity?
[21:29] <bobby_> tgm4883, I guess that would be the route I go, but those drives are so much more expensive that I don't know if I could justify that experience on my current salary
[21:29] <tgm4883> theseb: yes, you have to use a VM and windows though
[21:30] <tgm4883> bobby_: fair enough, are they that much faster than a SATA 6 SSD?
[21:30] <theseb> tgm4883: thanks...and ug..that means BUYING winders....*sigh*
[21:31] <tgm4883> theseb: you could always move away from itunes
[21:31] <theseb> tgm4883:call me crazy but how hard could it be for apple to make a web interface to itunes?
[21:31] <bobby_> tgm4883, they are theoretically 32Gb/s, so yeah they are insanely fast
[21:31] <theseb> tgm4883:to honest i'm a newb to an IPod....yes . i know i'm a dad whose probably the last person to get an iPod.....
[21:31] <tgm4883> theseb: really hard. If they made a web interface to it, then it would be less walled gardeny
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883: please tell me this...possible to just mount my ipod in ubuntu and move files that way?
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883:then i'd never need itunes
[21:32] <theseb> tgm4883:that would rule
[21:32] <tgm4883> theseb: I don't know. I know you could do it at one point, but updates to IOS would keep breaking it, so it was always a cat and mouse game
[21:32] <tgm4883> theseb: which ipod
[21:33] <theseb> tgm4883: it is an old thin one
[21:33] <theseb> tgm4883:i think nano
[21:34] <theseb> tgm4883: i think nano 4th gen since it looks like this... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/415-rVCMO3L._SY300_.jpg
[21:35] <tgm4883> theseb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[21:35] <tgm4883> theseb: note that while that says iPhone, the article seems to be about all ios devices
[21:37] <theseb> tgm4883:thanks
[21:40] <aktx> for ubuntu 14.04
[21:40] <aktx> what should be in my .vnc/xstartup
[21:40] <aktx> to have the standard desktop ui?
[21:40] <aktx> i tried "startx &" and that completely borked it :(
[21:41] <bubbasaures> aktx, startx for the desktop has not been used for awhile.
[21:41] <theseb> tgm4883:holy hell...i think you nailed it..rhythmbox seems to work with ipod nanos!
[21:41] <theseb> tgm4883:you rock
[21:41] <tgm4883> theseb: yw, glad it's working fo ryou
[21:44] <bubbasaures> aktx, Not sure in that scenario but from a tty on an install it would be sudo service lightdm start if it is lightdm
[21:47] <marxS> I shrunk my C drive in Windows and left 30GB unallocated space to install ubuntu but when i try in installer it says "unusable"
[21:53] <bubbasaures> marxS, Can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l run in the ubuntu terminal
[21:53] <bubbasaures> !=he gone
[21:56] <andrewjs18> what's everyone using for automatic mysql backups?
[21:57] <SchrodingersScat> !info mysqldump | andrewjs18
[21:58] <tgm4883> heh
[21:58] <andrewjs18> lol
[22:00] <SchrodingersScat> andrewjs18: comes with mysql-client
[22:00] <andrewjs18> does it do automatic daily/weekly/monthly backups?
[22:00] <andrewjs18> right now I'm using automysqlbackup, but it's old
[22:03] <SchrodingersScat> andrewjs18: no, I guess the automatic portion is to throw it in your backup script. I duplicity my data then dump mysql to a file in a directory, duplicity that directory.
[22:16] <Guest24914> HELP please. i am having problems booting into 15.04. I am using boot-repair and I receive a message to enable a repo containing grub-efi-amd64-signed on sda6 (the part with Linux) how do I do this?
[22:16] <Guest24914> I am running a live CD
[22:18] <Guest24914> #boot-repair
[22:21] <kubuntu_> Sorry, I'm back with the boot repair question
[22:26] <kubuntu_> No one?
[22:28] <meatie> kubuntu_, ask away
[22:28] <Bashing-om> kubuntu_: Wait, UEFI is over most of our experience. There are those that frequent this channel who do know .
[22:29] <kubuntu_> The Boot-Repair is asking me to enable a repo on sda6 (linux partition), how do I do this?
[22:30] <wileee> kubuntu_, not sure we would want to do that without some context, like why are you using the app?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> kubuntu_: Pastebin the advisory, in the context it is given . I do not recognize such an advisory .
[22:32] <kubuntu_> When attempting to boot my dual boot system, it dropped out the grub_rescue. I made a live USB of 15.04 and tried to fix any issue. Boot-repair ran for about 10 minutes, then simply popped up that message
[22:32] <kubuntu_> My 15.04 had been plugging away just fine. I had booted into WIndows 8, then tried back into 15.04, then this happened
[22:32] <wileee> kubuntu_, Can you just run the bootinfo summary alone, the click is on the first gui?
[22:33] <wileee> kubuntu_, Are you rebooting windows or using it's hybrid fast boot/sleep
[22:34] <kubuntu_> Running that now
[22:35] <kubuntu_> wileee: here is the asummary http://paste.ubuntu.com/11969867/
[22:35] <wileee> kubuntu_, If you are using the fastboot it will cause huge problems, is why I asked, generally it is windows not booting, just covering the bases.
[22:36] <kubuntu_> wileee: I did a shutdown on windows, then restarted my sytem
[22:36] <wileee> cool
[22:36] <FuxY> Hey guys, i need help fixing the GRUB after various tries
[22:36] <EriC^^> FuxY: what's the problem?
[22:37] <FuxY> EriC^^: I was running Ubuntu 15.04 with Win7 64 bit, but while i was upgrading win7 to win10 , grub broke
[22:37] <EriC^^> ok, do you have a live usb?
[22:38] <nicomachus> hi, just a quick question: I need to update my BIOS, and the package is an .exe file. Do I need to boot into Windows to execute it or can I do it from Ubuntu? Link to the bios update here: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=CXRD8
[22:38] <FuxY> while upgrading windows, it had to restarted, when it turn on something along : Grub-rescue > appeared
[22:38] <wileee> kubuntu_, I see burg in there, not a good idea to use, you have alegacy boot with grub in the mbr and a uefi windows, not sure, but I would get help not use the bootrepair here.
[22:38] <FuxY> EriC^^: im typing this from live cd
[22:38] <EriC^^> FuxY: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:39] <FuxY> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/ok7l
[22:39] <edilson> hello
[22:39] <funkyHat> nicomachus: if the only format they supply it in is a .exe then yes you should do it from Windows. Even if the exe might run OK in wine I wouldn't trust it to get something as low level as a BIOS reflash right.
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: ubuntu is gone
[22:40] <wileee> kubuntu_, So at some point this all worked, looks like a messy install is all.
[22:40] <nicomachus> gotcha. Thanks funkyHat. I'll have to restore the Windows 7 partition to a working state then. Thanks again.
[22:40] <kubuntu_> wileee: this had worked fine for, years? until now
[22:40] <FuxY> EriC^^: wait, it formatted ubuntu's partitions?
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: yeah
[22:40] <kubuntu_> wileee: is there a way to reinstall Kubuntu without wiping my data?
[22:40] <EriC^^> FuxY: did you have important stuff there?
[22:41] <kubuntu_> wileee: No one on Kubuntu channel
[22:41] <funkyHat> nicomachus: often you'll find another format is available too, like a CD you can burn. All depends on the manufacturer (and maybe even model) though...
[22:41] <wileee> kubuntu_, Ah, well that is good news, excellent help here, I would use it rather than the tool. Reinstall I doubt, anything is fixable theoretically.
[22:41] <FuxY> EriC^^: i copied some important stuff from windows to ubuntu (both in the same hard drive, that was dumb) as a backup
[22:42] <edilson> hello speaking spanish?
[22:42] <nicomachus> funkyHat: I won't put it past Dell to release the least amount possible, aka exe only. They won't even support any OS past w7 on this mobo, which is only 3 years old. :/ But that's off-topic here so I'll keep my grumblings elsewhere.
[22:42] <FuxY> EriC^^: how can i now resume win 10 setup? It always boots into grub
[22:42] <kubuntu_> wileee: If I understand correctly, try a re-install?
[22:42] <wileee> !es
[22:42] <wileee> edilson, ^^^^ there
[22:42] <kubuntu_> wileee: Also, I should back up my home dir to me safe
[22:42] <EriC^^> FuxY: you can try getting the stuff back using testdisk ( sudo apt-get install testdisk )
[22:43] <EriC^^> FuxY: you need to /join ##windows and ask about that, i think it should write the mbr
[22:43] <wileee> kubuntu_, No, I would calm down and get good help, you have to be careful here. I can assume you have no backups for any possible scenario?
[22:44] <FuxY> EriC^^: i don't think i can use the win7 cd to fix my mbr, since it's in the middle of a win10 setup, no idea what to do
[22:45] <wileee> kubuntu_, Just earlier myself my main SSD froze up, 3 OS's, however I have images of all them and backups, had I not fixed this, I would just load the image to a new HD.
[22:45] <EriC^^> FuxY: if the files are important then first try to recover them you can probably get your whole installation back if you wanted, then continue the win10 setup or ask in ##windows about it
[22:46] <FuxY> EriC^^: what's the command to join #windows ? im not familiar with irc
[22:46] <wileee> FuxY, /j ##windows
[22:47] <kubuntu_> wileee: I can make a backup of my home dir for sure
[22:47] <wileee> kubuntu_, I would just to be safe, this should be fixable.
[22:47] <kubuntu_> wileee: I would like to keep the windoze, myunderstanding is I can reinstall Kubuntu on the same partition without formatting it to recover?
[22:48] <wileee> kubuntu_, Not sure I always fresh install, or reload a clone, I think so though, however this may not necessarily fix it is all.
[22:48] <kubuntu_> wileee: gotcha
[22:52] <sambrag77> hello
[22:52] <EriC^^> hello
[22:53] <LonelyDanbo> any reason to get Ubuntu 14.04 over 15.04 for the purposes of making sure Wine runs as well as Linux native Steam?
[22:53] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, 5 years support?
[22:54] <LonelyDanbo> I don't understand 5 year support. Don't you just update to another version?
[22:55] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, 14.04 a longterm-5 years 15.04=9months
[22:55] <LonelyDanbo> I had 5 year support for Xubuntu and I ended up breaking my Wine games and Steam won't run at all, so what good is it?
[22:56] <wileee> LonelyDanbo, You are far from an experienced user I have watched your issues. That experience is what is good. ;)
[22:56] <LonelyDanbo> Also at least in Xubuntu, it had a very old version of Wine. Every time I would ask for help people would tell me what an ancient version I had.
[22:56] <wileee> and the support if you can follow and do it
[22:57] <wileee> Can you generalize more "everybody"
[22:58] <LonelyDanbo> so it's not like the 15.04 will have more bugs. it's just not supported past a certain date.
[22:59] <LonelyDanbo> I wonder if there's any more problems switching from 15.04 to 15.10 once it expires, compared to updating within 14.04 and everything breaking.
[23:00] <LonelyDanbo> or... not everything, just something important.
[23:06] <awktion> eh
[23:06] <awktion> who's having trouble right now, i don't feel like doing the work i'm payed for
[23:09] <wileee> awktion, this is free volunteer help, are you kidding?
[23:10] <awktion> wileee: quite serious
[23:10] <awktion> i'm a sysadmin for a datacenter atm, and i dont have anything to do
[23:10] <awktion> figured i'd scare up something here
[23:12] <wileee> awktion, Heh, I miss read that my bad, help away. ;)
[23:14] <awktion> wileee: i planned to.... :P
[23:14] <awktion> anyone wanna do something fun like setup varnishd or something?
[23:15] <awktion> (yes i'm really that bored, got 1h45m to go, and i doubt i'll have more than 20m of real work in that time)
[23:15] <wileee> We just wait for post here is all, most here are luking
[23:15] <wileee> lurking*
[23:15] <awktion> iknow
[23:15] <awktion> been here since 05
[23:16] <wileee> had my SSD freeze up today, guess the fix
[23:16] <awktion> ssd? what brand
[23:16] <awktion> and what size
[23:16] <wileee> cricial m4 ssd
[23:16] <wileee> 250 gigs
[23:16] <awktion> probably bad trim/GC
[23:16] <wileee> bingo
[23:16] <awktion> 250G won't have nand fully populated
[23:16] <awktion> :D
[23:16] <awktion> NEXT!
[23:17] <awktion> lol
[23:17] <wileee> !cookie | awktion
[23:17] <awktion> wileee: if you want the best performance from ssd i do have a cpl tips
[23:17] <awktion> 1. setup boundaries on the 4k lines, so they line up nicely, and 2. only partition 75%
[23:18] <awktion> the rest will go to the scratch area and increase your _average_ performance #s nicely
[23:18] <wileee> awktion, I'm set but thanks, I had a W8.1 updxate require a hard off is a;ll
[23:18] <awktion> see several anandtech reviews for some good data on the partitioning
[23:18] <awktion> wileee: aww
[23:18] <wileee> yeah that is amy basic setup, except 3 OS's
[23:18] <awktion> swt
[23:18] <meatie> awktion, what % perf. did you experience?
[23:19] <awktion> meatie: i don't get scientific with my own equipment, and my work is too lazy to measure like i would
[23:19] <awktion> but what i do notice is lag spikes
[23:19] <awktion> and i notice many fewer lag spikes due to i/o when it's setup that way
[23:19] <meatie> that's odd
[23:19] <awktion> that's specifically ssd not flash in general so doesn't apply to things like microsd cards
[23:20] <awktion> meatie: lets take a look
[23:20] <awktion> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9451/the-2tb-samsung-850-pro-evo-ssd-review/2
[23:20] <awktion> here's a very recent one, we are looking @ t2b samsung 850, but also look @ the others it's compared to
[23:21] <awktion> look @ 3rd chart down
[23:21] <awktion> see how it goes way low?
[23:21] <awktion> on the second pull down select the same drive
[23:21] <awktion> youll see it stays higce and high around 36k instead of dipping down below 10k
[23:22] <meatie> that is unfortunate...
[23:22] <meatie> :[
[23:22] <awktion> the 4th chart is even a bigger difference
[23:22] <meatie> i liked my 1TB fusion-io
[23:22] <awktion> let me toss a composit up
[23:22] <meatie> what does that 2TB one cost?
[23:22] <awktion> fusion-io's turned out to be disappointing in production @ CDN i worked out
[23:23] <meatie> yeah i got it years ago...
[23:23] <meatie> bastard was $10k
[23:23] <awktion> ~800 atm
[23:23] <meatie> dumb bosses, but i was happy.
[23:23] <awktion> maybe 1k
[23:23] <awktion> yeah i bet you were ;)
[23:23] <meatie> thats very cheap.
[23:23] <awktion> yeah love the new prices
[23:23] <awktion> still got a ways to go, but it'll get there
[23:23] <meatie> i just bought several 250gb 850 EVO's
[23:27] <nicomachus> !ot | awktion meatie
[23:27] <awktion> http://i.imgur.com/rRPBAof.png
[23:27] <awktion> nicomachus: relax bro, wait till there are actual questions b4 you go being a richard
[23:28] <meatie> we were talking about tweaking mysql for ubuntu, and drives.
[23:28] <awktion> drive consistency is everything for db's
[23:28] <awktion> not that it doesn't matter elsewhere as well..
[23:29] <meatie> i will refrain from mentioning anything outside of the ubuntu realm.
[23:30] <joujou> Hi guys. I'm installing kubuntu 14.04 on a pc but during the installation I dont see the option to encrypt my home directory, how comes?
[23:31] <joujou> That also if I try the manual installation
[23:32] <wileee> joujou, I think it asks you in the manual upon choosing to do the setup install.
[23:32] <meatie> you can do it easily post-install. although you are right, it should be in the setup.
[23:34] <joujou> wilee, I'm trying the manual way but there is no encrypt option, strange as it may sound
[23:34] <joujou> I only can choose the partitions, mounting points etc
[23:34] <wileee> joujou, I believe after you set up your install and then click go it asks you then.
[23:35] <joujou> wileee, thanks, I'll try =)
[23:35] <meatie> can just deal with ecryptfs-* if thats what i remember
[23:36] <wileee> joujou, No problem, I don't encrypt anything but a password file.
[23:36] <easyOnMe> my laptop always gives me a message failed to download required packages I do not know what is the problem here
[23:37] <wileee> easyOnMe, Show us the proof in a pastebin
[23:37] <meatie> after apt-get update ?
[23:38] <wileee> easyOnMe, handful of reasons is all, some context helps.
[23:38] <awktion> oops sorry got busy
[23:38] <easyOnMe> earlier there was this info that says there is an update available so I tried clicking on it and it asked for my password after I key in my password it tried to download then after waiting for the download it replied with failed to download packages
[23:39] <awktion> wileee: rock it bra u2 meatie
[23:39]  * awktion poofs for a bit
[23:39] <wileee> easyOnMe, pastebin a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:40] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://pastebin.com/wKF1bPkh
[23:41] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://apaste.info/RAg
[23:42] <wileee> easyOnMe, I see a hash error on a kernel download, any errors in the update not showing?
[23:42] <easyOnMe> wileee: http://apaste.info/RAg
[23:44] <wileee> easyOnMe, actually not a kernel, I would just change repos as a start and see if the hash error disappears.  E: Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/ghostscript/libgs9_9.10~dfsg-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:44] <meatie> you can do --fix-missing
[23:44] <meatie> or..
[23:44] <meatie> you can select a better mirror.
[23:45] <wileee> easyOnMe, I'm getting that same package update right now, hold on
[23:46] <easyOnMe> wileee: I manage to solve it
[23:46] <wileee> easyOnMe, Good job. ;)
[23:47] <wileee> installed here fine as well
[23:47] <easyOnMe> I did sudo apt-get update --fix-missing then to sudo apt-get upgrade then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:47] <G0> Eh ?
[23:47] <easyOnMe> so far all went well
[23:48] <daftykins> there's no point doing upgrade *AND* dist-upgrade
[23:48] <daftykins> just do dist-upgrade.
[23:48] <tux_> My webcam shows up in cheese but wont show up in propritiery flash plugin
[23:48] <tux_> any idea?
[23:48] <overflyer-main> evening guys.... linux user with medium experience here. can anyone held me concerning wireless connection via console? wpa_suuplicant and interfaces are configured. ifup -v wlan0 was completely successful. LAN works right away and automatic startup is also ok which i can especially recognize because im able to ssh to my server now. however i get no internet connectivitiy...ping and apt-get wont work. iconfig t
[23:48] <overflyer-main> ells me wlan0 is fine and got IP and everything. the only error i noticed while logging in after a reboot now is [ 54.565837] ieee802.11 phy0: invalid picp cck rate (0)
[23:49] <easyOnMe> wileee: do you know how to do bash scripting
[23:49] <wileee> easyOnMe, If you use the terminal you will see more info on updates/upgrades I find it easier myself, personal choice is all.
[23:49] <wileee> bash nothing but super simple, not really
[23:49] <wileee> tux_, "propritiery flash plugin"?
[23:50] <G0> How can I know if there are a BackDoor on Linux ?
[23:50] <wileee> !ot | gonyere
[23:50] <easyOnMe> wileee: I want to learn it but I do not want to mess up my ubuntu laptop due to the configuration, files and software stuff I already have and I spent time doing so
[23:50] <tux_> G0, you need to audit the entire source code of every distro.
[23:50] <G0> Thx
[23:51] <easyOnMe> so what is the best way to learn bash scripting: do I need another laptop with another linux OS where I can do my learning so as not to mess up my ubuntu linux in this current laptop
[23:51] <daftykins> easyOnMe: talk about it in the right channel would be #1 - so #bash
[23:51] <tux_> easyOnMe, You shouldn't mess anything up learning on your local machine.
[23:51] <easyOnMe> daftykins: ok
[23:51] <easyOnMe> thanks
[23:51] <wileee> easyOnMe, Noble goal, you will get your hands dirty learning though, I just make sure I have images of the OS and all backups so a image load is used if the fix is a longer time scale.
[23:52] <gry> easyOnMe: what one is not really a bash question .. and no you do not need new os for bash learning, learning in this one is ok
[23:52] <tux_> Flash plugin from Adobe.
[23:52] <tux_> Not open source
[23:52] <wileee> tux_, IN ubuntu?
[23:52] <gry> adobe stopped maintaining flash for linux tux_, better not use it
[23:53] <overflyer-main> nobody got any advice?
[23:53] <tux_> gry, Really? Thery just released an update
[23:53] <gry> weird
[23:53] <daftykins> they're doing security updates, but it's a moot point
[23:53] <squinty> security update
[23:53] <daftykins> she dead.
[23:53] <gry> maybe old updade and you just noticed?
[23:53] <gry> ah
[23:53] <wileee> tux_, this a flashplugin-install from ubuntu? adobe wont run
[23:53] <xangua> Security update, major ones stopped at 2010 tux_
[23:53] <tux_> daftykins, THAANK GOD FINALLY
[23:54] <tux_> What are we using as an alternativge these days?
[23:54] <daftykins> tux_: inappropriate language here.
[23:54] <meatie> flash gives stability to my life. i can count on it crashing several times a day.
[23:54] <meatie> comforting
[23:54] <daftykins> HTML5.
[23:54] <tux_> daftykins, Not as a developer HTML5 rules
[23:54] <tux_> if I need to access existing flash sites what is a recommended replacment to adobe flash plugin?
[23:55] <daftykins> you can use pepperflash with chromium or chrome
[23:55] <tux_> GTnash?
[23:55] <daftykins> there is no direct substitute that's worthy of mention
[23:55] <daftykins> flash is essentially dead in Firefox
[23:55] <tux_> pepperflash is google code though?
[23:55] <urkengurken> i have the right version of ubuntu and architecture but it my computer keeps giving me errors (hp envy m4 1015dx) like saying shit like "efi wont load" and then whenever i try to installl ubuntu it just makes a loud fan sound and huts down immediately i am using a rewritable disc to install it. windows 8 isnt on the computer anymore.
[23:55] <daftykins> (although pepperflash wrappers do exist)
[23:55] <tux_> Isn't that closed source too?
[23:55] <daftykins> i'll let your research answer those questions :)
[23:56] <daftykins> urkengurken: language, please.
[23:56] <B0g4r7_> Another day, another kernel update.  Another ~60MB download.
[23:56] <urkengurken> i apologize
[23:56] <G0> There are a way to call to a cell phone by the computer ? Using wireless board , for example
[23:56] <B0g4r7_> du -sh /boot -- 697MB
[23:57] <daftykins> B0g4r7_: you're right, how dare they apply fixes!
[23:58] <overflyer> evening guys!
[23:58] <urkengurken> anyone know whats up with it or?
[23:58] <urkengurken> evening overflyer :)
[23:58] <daftykins> urkengurken: see if your systems BIOS is the latest version, reset defaults, clear all keys, boot media again in EFI mode, zero the first 100MB of the disk with dd, then clean install.
[23:59] <easyOnMe> what is lxc
[23:59] <overflyer> im a linux user with medium experience here. can anyone held me concerning wireless connection via console? wpa_suuplicant and interfaces are configured. ifup -v wlan0 was completely successful. LAN works right away and automatic startup is also ok which i can especially recognize because im able to ssh to my server now. however i get no internet connectivitiy...ping and apt-get wont work. iconfig tells me wlan0 is
[23:59] <overflyer> fine and got IP and everything. the only error i noticed while logging in after a reboot now is [ 54.565837] ieee802.11 phy0: invalid picp cck rate (0) and the console keeps throwing stuff like ieee80211 phy0: channel change: <number> -> <number> failed (2)
[23:59] <G0> Hey guys, how to copy and paste on the terminal without the mouse ?
[23:59] <urkengurken> im sory but  what do you mean by clear all keys?
[23:59] <urkengurken> i apologize im a bit new to linux


[04:25] <virus> hello
[04:25] <virus> i need some help
[06:44] <Talikkaf> The installation window is too broad - on many laptops I need to move the installer window left and right to be able to push buttons. At least on 18.04 beta 1 and 2
[06:54] <alkisg> Talikkaf: you'd need to file a bug report against ubiquity in launchpad
[06:54] <alkisg> IRC isn't the proper place to report bugs...
[07:28] <Talikkaf> Thanks for the info. I didn't know what kind of bug it might have been or which programs to address.
[07:34] <alkisg> No problem, that is exactly what IRC is for ;)
[07:42] <pele_> 12
[07:42] <pele_> hey
[11:53] <Livi> hi gs please help me. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:53] <Livi> only 1024 765
[12:52] <jasonbourne> hello , ubuntu mate is secureor not ?
[14:29] <davide> Hi
[14:29] <davide> :)
[14:35] <Mittles> I think I found a bug, in the Minecraft package installed by the software boutique in 18.04
[14:35] <Mittles> Exception: javax.net.ssl.SSLException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[14:35] <Mittles> Unable to download remote file. Check your internet connection/proxy settings.
[14:36] <Mittles> @Wimpress
[14:36] <Mittles> No idea where to report a bug in your PPA :p
[14:42] <Mittles> update-ca-certificates -f hasn't resolved it
[14:44] <Mittles> neither has sudo apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates-java
[14:52] <Mittles> It appears to be occurring with the normal Java launcher, so not exactly a bug in the package itself
[14:59] <Mittles> Not fixed by downgrading to openjdk 1.8
[15:12] <ole_denmark> nickserv identify 270536OLE
[15:14] <Mittles> I'll try the snap package for now :?
[15:16] <Mittles> Well the snap works :>
[15:24] <sixwheeledbeast> Mittles: just install it directly
[15:25] <Mittles> I did.
[15:25] <Mittles> Same issue.
[15:25] <sixwheeledbeast> well not install, more run it directly.
[15:26] <sixwheeledbeast> Download the latest jars directly from mojang.
[15:26] <Mittles> I same issue.
[15:26] <Mittles> * I did, same issue.
[15:27] <Mittles> Using default-jre
[15:27] <sixwheeledbeast> how are you running the jars?
[15:28] <Mittles> java -jar ./Minecraft.jar
[15:28] <sixwheeledbeast> in a terminal? Do you get to the launcher?
[15:32] <Mittles> Here is a screenshot. https://i.imgur.com/HRzRl8J.png
[15:33] <Mittles> This is the exact same thing that occurs with the package in the ppa in the software boutique
[15:34] <Mittles> I'm assuming the snap uses a different version of java
[15:35] <Mittles> Yea, /snap/minecraft/11/etc/ uses java 8 openjdk, so it was strange that the downgrade did nothing.
[15:59] <Mittles> I'm sure someone will complain about Minecraft.jar not working upstream at some point :P
[15:59] <Mittles> the normal recommendation is to "just use oracle jre" but openjre has always ran it fine
[16:26] <sixwheeledbeast> I have no issues with openjre 8, is the system time correct?
[16:33] <Mittles> yep
[16:35] <alkisg> Mittles: my experience was that openjre ran minecraft at about the half speed, so I had to use the oracle one as my kids complained about it :)
[17:16] <Mittles> I've tried about every way of reconfiguring the certs for openjdk 8
[17:16] <Mittles> I've no idea how you've got it running
[17:17] <alkisg> Oh that was 3-4 years ago, maybe with java 7 at the time
[17:26] <Mittles> ugh
[17:38] <Mittles> sixwheeledbeast: is this working on a vanilla install of MATE 18.04 for you?
[17:39] <sixwheeledbeast> vanilla client and server but 17.10 here at the moment
[17:40] <Mittles> ah well
[17:40] <Mittles> the certs in the openjdk package might be bunk
[17:40] <Mittles> I know this is a beta :p
[17:41] <sixwheeledbeast> Due release soon tho. You removed and purged all the packages and reinstalled?
[17:42] <Mittles> yep
[17:44] <Mittles> I can try to reproduce this on another machine later.
[17:52] <Mittles> Wimpress: if you get the chance the package referenced is in your ppa
[17:53] <Mittles> though your package works fine :P
[17:53] <Mittles> it's the java certs themselves that are broken
[18:06] <rhilenova> Can anyone help with a problem installing virtualbox-guest-x11 on 16.04.4?
[18:07] <lapaga> Click on device and insert
[18:08] <rhilenova> Does that version work? I've been installing the package from the repositories recently because of issues I had in the past
[18:09] <lapaga> Yes it will
[18:10] <rhilenova> Alright, I'll give that a try and see if I still have the same problem
[18:42] <Mittles> https://askubuntu.com/questions/971059/17-10-openjdk-and-oracle-jdk-8-and-9-the-trustanchors-parameter-must-be-non-empt
[18:42] <Mittles> purging everything mentioned and running just openjdk-jre-8 has worked for Minecraft.jar
[18:43] <Mittles> And NOW it works as intended with the ppa
[18:44] <Mittles> Wimpress: openjdk-8-jre has to be installed first for some reason
[18:44] <Mittles> I think that 9 isn't pulling the certs in properly
[18:48] <Mittles> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-9/+bug/1743139
[19:26] <TechChristoph> Hello
[19:27] <TechChristoph> Not many people here today
[20:16] <maho> hi folks
[20:16] <maho> is anybody there
[20:16] <maho> ?
[20:28] <TechChristoph> hi maho
[22:45] <mate|98536> iaaeee rapaziada