[04:29] <Callum__> but MythTV, VLC and everything else plays 5.1 fine
[04:29] <Cryptorchild> crdlb: it's MIME related
[04:29] <drizzt_> bawww, then you have edit dependencies manually
[04:30] <mcl0vin> onetinsoldier: am a bit confused
[04:30] <Callum__> totem-gstreamer's preferences is set to "5.1-surround" and it will just do the same thing
[04:30] <bawww> drizzt_: thanks for the tip
[04:30] <Callum__> anyone able to help?
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> bawww: good question. i followed the tutorial and installed the git version. however, i used 'checkinstall' to install it in case there's any problems. i use checkinstall to install any source that i compile. it makes a .deb package for you. after i installed it... winff still worked fine. don't know about kdenlive, but i would imagine it would be fine
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> bawww: i recommend that you use ./configure --prefix=/usr
[04:31] <bawww> onetinsoldier: nice, i'll try the checkinstall method then
[04:31] <mcl0vin> onetinsoldier: regarding the upgrade of my kernel....can i upgrade the kernel while the destro stay the same
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> bawww: cheers. good luck
[04:32] <onetinsoldier> !info checkinstall
[04:32] <abota> im using the nonfree pugins
[04:32] <bawww> onetinsoldier: thanks, again! :)
[04:32] <mcl0vin> s/distro/distro release/
[04:33] <Callum__> by the way I'm not using PA, I'm just using straight ALSA
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> mcl0vin: i'm not sure what you're asking. but normally, you'd install newer kernel, then boot to it. then, if you want to, use package manager to remove/purge older kernel packages
[04:33] <bsmith093> quick honest noob question i checked the website found nothing i could understand, what the hell is tor how do i use it and does it run on ubuntu
[04:33] <hipitihop> if I want to configure network settings each time a specific device is connected via usb, where can I set that up ?
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> bawww: you're welcome :-) good luck!
[04:34] <jidum> hi everyone
[04:34] <Super-Man> !Tor | bsmith093
[04:34] <uLinux> o:o
[04:35] <jidum> im here because i want a good iptables' configuration, do u have any hints
[04:35] <jidum> for me :-)
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> jidum: all i can say is, learn and use 'fwbuilder'
[04:36] <josss> hello can someone aid meh?
[04:36] <Docteh> !ask|josss
[04:36] <josss> im trying to put opendns here and ubuntu just cant seem to accept it
[04:36] <josss> my dam lil sister just goes through porn like nothing
[04:37] <josss> help please
[04:37] <jidum> ok thanks! ;-)
[04:37] <Docteh> like into the resolv.conf?
[04:37] <onetinsoldier> you're welcome
[04:37] <Fahad__> joss if you are using NetworkManager then you can just specify it in the connection properties
[04:38] <corpse> is it possible to install ubuntu server without a cdrom installed?
[04:38] <josss> i did specify the ip adress on the network manager
[04:39] <aguich> anyone from chile?
[04:39] <CaptainTrek> corpse: yes, use a flash drive
[04:39] <josss> it still wont work, i can go through any x rated site like nothing
[04:39] <CaptainTrek> !ot | aguich
[04:39] <drizzt_> how to change system's welcome message?
[04:39] <iDope> I didn't know OpenDNS has filtering for that stuff.
[04:39] <corpse> CaptainTrek: im using a usb stick but i cant seem to get passed the cd detection part of the installation
[04:40] <josss> yeah it does, it only seems to work with one shot using windows
[04:40] <JayT> My SD Card reader only works when I have an SD card in there when I boot (or reboot). Ubuntu doesn't recogize any card if I don't have it in there when I boot. How can I fix this?
[04:40] <josss> i dont know why it doesnt with ubuntu, i input the proxy keys and it still wont do
[04:40] <Docteh> iDope: you have to opt in to it
[04:41] <CaptainTrek> corpse: huh?
[04:41] <CaptainTrek> corpse: how did you make the thing?
[04:41] <Docteh> JayT: so if you add an sd card after boot nothing shows up in dmesg about it?
[04:42] <JayT> Docteh: exactly right
[04:42] <corpse> CaptainTrek: usb creator-kde and the iso from the ubuntu site
[04:42] <iDope> joss could you pastebin the output of /etc/resolv.conf?
[04:42] <iDope> somewhere
[04:43] <Monona> I'm trying to compile a program from source.  I edited the Makefile.inc and ran make from src/ directory.  No error messages, but I can't run it.  I've never done this before.  Any help?
[04:44] <greezmunkey> Monona: is the file executable?
[04:45] <Super-Man> Josss : your still there
[04:45] <Docteh> Monona: what program
[04:45] <JayT> Docteh: Any idea?
[04:45] <Monona> greezmunkey: Yes.  I can run it from the src/ directory.  How can I run it from the command line?
[04:46] <Monona> Docteh: zynaddsubfx
[04:46] <greezmunkey> Monona: yeah, ls -la the file you are trying to execute, you should see rwx-rx-rx or sume such...
[04:46] <greezmunkey> Monona:  it's the x's that count.
[04:46] <z3r0-c001> i cahnged my password but i want to cahnge my keyring password how do i go about it
[04:46] <Docteh> JayT: nope, never had the kernel not see it, if its the gui's fault thats easy to work around
[04:47] <Monona> greezmunkey: -rwxr-xr-x  And it's green.
[04:48] <greezmunkey> Monona: then you should be good. I have to log out of r a minute or two - libnotify erros
[04:49] <greezmunkey> hmm'
[04:49] <Monona> greezmunkey: Yeah, I just want to be able to run from command line.  Thank you, tho.
[04:49] <btr> Monona: have you installed that executable into /usr/local/bin?
[04:50] <Monona> btr:  No.  Let me do that.
[04:51] <btr> Monona: mm..  try make install
[04:51] <btr> Monona: "make install" in terminal
[04:51] <Guest84837> hey there noobs
[04:51] <btr> haha
[04:52] <CaptainTrek> btr: sudo make install, no?
[04:52] <btr> right
[04:52] <Monona> btr: I get this: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[04:52] <greezmunkey> Monona: sorry about that...
[04:53] <btr> Monona: what program you compiled?
[04:53] <CaptainTrek> Monona: what were you compiling?
[04:53] <onetinsold_away> Monona: you did this in the 'src dir? make install probably won't work from there
[04:54] <onetinsold_away> Monona: you did this in the 'src' dir that's inside the dir that you unpacked the source into? make install probably won't work from there
[04:54] <Monona> onetinsold_away: Yes.  What's the right directory?
[04:54] <bsmith093> does boinc run even when i close the window
[04:55] <onetinsold_away> Monona: you would probably need to do everything in the top level directory... ./configure, make, make install... all in the top level dir
[04:55] <Monona> btr, CaptainTrek: zynaddsubfx
[04:55] <chegney> ah, transparent urxvt setup... now I'm home
[04:55] <btr> Monona: anyway, you can copy that program into /usr/local/bin .. yourself
[04:55] <btr> :)
[04:55] <onetinsold_away> Monona: or try what btr says... might work fine
[04:55] <Monona> btr:  What's command line for that? mv?
[04:56] <btr> Monona: sudo cp yourprogram /usr/local/bin
[04:56] <z3r0-c001> i cahnged my password but i want to cahnge my keyring password how do i go about it
[04:58] <dasclown> I've been trying 10.04 for a week now.  So far so good.
[04:58] <Monona> btr, onetinsold_away, CaptainTrek, greezmunkey:  Got it.  Seems to be working.  Thanks for the help!
[04:59] <ontinsoldier> Monona: cool..  :)
[04:59] <Guest84837> dasclown, cool
[04:59] <ontinsoldier> greezmunkey: howdy? tried aweather lately? hehe
[04:59] <ontinsoldier> greezmunkey: howdy* tried aweather lately? hehe
[04:59] <mkjackson> hey folks, is there any way I can print out a series of files as one job?  I have a java project that I would like to print out in bulk (4 pages to a side, double sided) for studies purposes and one at a time will just leave alot of blank space
[04:59] <dasclown> I have a broadcom wireless card and spent a lot of time getting that fixed.
[04:59] <mkjackson> was thinking there might be a way in gedit
[05:00] <mkjackson> ?
[05:00] <greezmunkey> ontinsoldier: you had to ask me twice? No No, (p.s. look at your nick)
[05:00] <ennui> has anyone used ubuntu on a tablet PC?
[05:00] <ontinsoldier> greezmunkey: got it :P
[05:01] <ontinsoldier> greezmunkey: or are you trying to say you want me to go back to being _away :(
[05:01] <dasclown> ennui: I've considered trying the netbook edition on my laptop for kicks
[05:01] <Ravahan> Hello, can anyone help me get Boxee running on Karmic 64 bit?  When I try to open it the screen goes black for a second with a cursor then it goes back to normal.  There's a little thing in my taskbar that says "starting Boxee" or something like that and then it goes away.
[05:01] <greezmunkey> ontinsoldier: o-n-t-i-n-...
[05:01] <ontinsoldier> greezmunkey: lol
[05:02] <ontinsoldier> Ravahan: you'll get more info if you start it form the command line
[05:02] <ontinsoldier> from*
[05:02] <jerico> hey! good evening to everyone
[05:03] <ontinsoldier> jerico: hello there
[05:03] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: When I start it from the command line I get...
[05:03] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: rav@AMDMachine:~$ /opt/boxee/run-boxee-desktop
[05:03] <Ravahan> 24/05/10 04:03:06#DEBUG#bxbgprocess.cpp:180(Start)#bg process [name=] initialized. [m_lazy=1=TRUE] -> MaxNumOfWorkingThreads was set to [2]
[05:03] <Ravahan> 24/05/10 04:03:06#DEBUG#bxbgprocess.cpp:180(Start)#bg process [name=Application Messenger] initialized. [m_lazy=1=TRUE] -> MaxNumOfWorkingThreads was set to [1]
[05:03] <Ravahan> 24/05/10 04:03:06#DEBUG#bxbgprocess.cpp:180(Start)#bg process [name=Http Cache CleanUp] initialized. [m_lazy=1=TRUE] -> MaxNumOfWorkingThreads was set to [1]
[05:03] <Ravahan> 24/05/10 04:03:06#DEBUG#bxcurl.cpp:98(Initialize)#curl initialized. version <7.19.5>
[05:03] <Ravahan> Running Boxee test...
[05:03] <FloodBot1> Ravahan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <ontinsoldier> i knew it :-|
[05:03] <Ravahan> whoops
[05:03] <ontinsoldier> !pastebin | Ravahan
[05:04] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/438640/
[05:04] <Ravahan> Sorry about that.
[05:04] <Flare-Laptop> Ravahan: D:
[05:04] <ennui> I want to get a netbook for web browsing and pdf reading. but a tablet PC with a keyboard looks like it would be really cool.... but they all seem to be heavier than the regular netbooks as well as costing about twice as much
[05:05] <ontinsoldier> Ravahan: just from the looks of that, i don't think i have any clue whatsoever. but use pastebin. describe a little about your problem on one line, and include your pastebin link that has the error messages in your post to the channel
[05:05] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: I tried installing rtorrent with apt-get but it didn't help.
[05:06] <Guest84837> ennui, have you tried del
[05:06] <aytd> please ubuntu
[05:06] <Chucky> Hola
[05:06] <Chucky> alguien habla español?
[05:07] <airtonix> no
[05:07] <gogeta> ennui: there startuiing to ship the openpandors and there umpc with gaming controles and a keybord
[05:07] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: alright, I'll restate then.  Thanks for trying!
[05:07] <jerico> Si
[05:07] <jerico> Hola
[05:07] <Guest84837> sí senor
[05:07] <Chucky> cOMO VA?
[05:07] <gogeta> open pandora
[05:07] <Chucky> No sabes de alguna sala en español?
[05:07] <airtonix> !es | Chucky
[05:07] <jerico> No tengo la mas minima idea
[05:08] <Ravahan> I'm trying to get Boxee to work on Karmic 64 bit.  I have the most recent NVIDIA driver available from Hardware Drivers.  This is the error I recieve when I run it in the terminal; http://paste.ubuntu.com/438640/
[05:08] <CaptainTrek> how can i get hardware monitoring tools such as temperature readings from the hard drive and other things in Lucid?
[05:08] <airtonix> !sensors | CaptainTrek
[05:08] <ontinsoldier> Ravahan: ok. you probably won't get an answer for quite a while. just keep asking like every 5-10 minutes. good luck!
[05:09] <Ravahan> onitsoldier: Thanks
[05:09] <ennui> gogeta: the only tablet I see on dell's site is the latitude
[05:09] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: ok, happy now? :-)
[05:10] <ewp> how do i create a simple script to restart avant-window-navigator? i have a script using 'pkill awn' then runs 'avant-window-navigator' again but it exits after the pkill with 'Terminated'
[05:10] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I was just used to tab comp'g you after typing o-n-e, It took me four tries to get you, LOL
[05:10] <r3m> Hi all, is there a free book about ubuntu
[05:10] <airtonix> ewp, using && between the commands ?
[05:10] <mkjackson> ok, a different approach, is there a way I can get the contents of each file in a directory to be placed into one file?  (IE ls | more >> somefile.txt
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: lol! i hear ya :-)
[05:11] <Guest84837> r3m, ubuntu-manual.org
[05:11] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: btw, yes - thank you.
[05:11] <mkjackson> ls | more only displays all the files again, is there a way to have the results of ls to be used as seperate parameters for a different instance of more?
[05:11] <ewp> airtonix: no, it's a shell script on a set of multiple lines. i even have a sleep 3 in between the 2 cmds
[05:11] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: sure, you're welcome :-)
[05:12] <airtonix> ewp, i'd just use : pkill awn && avant-window-navigator
[05:12] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I thought about hijacking your nick, but that would probably be the first stone in a war neither of us want.
[05:12] <r3m> thanks Guest84837: another free ubuntu book?
[05:12] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: haha! well, i could kick you off it if i wanted to ;-)
[05:12] <zelda> Something tells me we arent in Kansas anymore.
[05:13] <CaptainTrek> is there some kind of applet that I can install for the panel that can monitor temperature on devices?
[05:13] <CaptainTrek> nevermind got it
[05:14] <r3m> Any suggestion for Ubuntu free book
[05:14] <ShadowApex> mkjackson, you can do what you want using a simple python script
[05:14] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: see, the mere thought of subversive action results in swift rhetorek, thus disuading me of excalating further.
[05:14] <greezmunkey> exca...heh you get the idea.
[05:14] <mkjackson> ShadowApex: I don't really know python :-/
[05:15] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: rhetoric (sp) ;-)
[05:15] <Guest84837> why use ubuntu and not debian
[05:15] <mkjackson> ShadowApex: is there something already available somewhere?
[05:15] <greezmunkey> yeah, sad isn't it.
[05:15] <ShadowApex> mkjackson: lemme see
[05:15] <drizzt_> Guest84837, because ubuntu is designed by a corporation, and debian is just a bunch of beggars
[05:16] <ShadowApex> mkjackson: you want to pipe all the contents of the files in a directory to a single file, correct?
[05:16] <mkjackson> ShadowApex: that's the idea, if there's any way that it can add a new page operator or something between files then even better
[05:16] <malev_> well, the channel seems a bit quiet right now
[05:16] <allividdi> hello
[05:16] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: escalating (sp) hope you don't mind if i teach you some spelling! :-)
[05:16] <malev_> hello allividdi
[05:17] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: somebuddy has too
[05:17] <r3m> Any suggestion for Ubuntu free book
[05:17] <ShadowApex> mkjackson: try; cat `ls` > file.txt
[05:17] <allividdi> is somebuddy here THA
[05:17] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: hehe. so you feel like getting aweather going? i want someone else to see it! ;)
[05:17] <ShadowApex> that will pipe the contents of all the files in a directory into a single file
[05:18] <drizzt_> how to print my IP address?
[05:18] <ShadowApex> drizzt_: ifconfig
[05:18] <Zelda> print or view?
[05:18] <Appl6> ShadowApex: "ls > file.txt" is probably preferable.
[05:18] <drizzt_> ShadowApex, it's not an IP address, it's a wall of text
[05:18] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: actually, I'm into that but I can't tonight. I have two wireless quotes (the engineering for) to get ready for tomorrow. I'll be working on that tomorrow night.
[05:18] <Zelda> print would be to "print screen" after ifconfig
[05:18] <jatt> drizzt_: use giplet
[05:19] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: roger that
[05:19] <ShadowApex> drizzt_: ifconfig | grep inet
[05:19] <jatt> giplet
[05:19] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: I'll be looking for some help I think, from what I've seen.
[05:19] <drizzt_> ShadowApex, it's still 6 lines of arbitrary text
[05:20] <jatt> click on it and then "Copy IP to clipboard". No need of grep, pipes, etc.
[05:20] <drizzt_> i need just numbers
[05:20] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: you know i'm not surprised ;-)
[05:20] <ShadowApex> drizzt_: what's the text is outputs?
[05:20] <jatt> sudo apt-get install giplet
[05:20] <anthony_> hello.  I have installed lucid 10.4 and sound doesn't come from my analog headphone jack. Can anybody give me any ideas?
[05:20] <drizzt_> ShadowApex, inet addr:<IP> Bcast: blah bla hblah
[05:21] <drizzt_> i need only IP part
[05:21] <jatt> use giplet for it
[05:21] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: can you post a cool screenshot from it?
[05:21] <ShadowApex> drizzt_: ok, so are you trying to use this for a script or something? Is that why you need the IP itself?
[05:21] <mkjackson> ShadowApex: that did the trick... I hate to push it but is there a way to also feed in a "new page" operator (is there even such a thing?) between files?  the idea is that I have an entire project that I want to dump to print, line numbers would be nice and a new page for each file will make a world of difference...
[05:22] <tripelb> I just downloaded teh Ubuntu 9.10 onto a flash drive. I have done the hash check but only on windows. Would you please direct me to a page to do it in linux.
[05:22] <Appl6> drizzt_: Don't be obnoxious about it.  "man cut" if it's such a big deal.
[05:22] <drizzt_> yes, I need to either print it or set env var with it
[05:22] <SingAlong> hi all
[05:23] <onetinsoldier> greezmunkey: yes, if you give me a while
[05:23] <SingAlong> my ubuntu 10.04 desktop has problems connecting to the net. it connects sometimes and mostly not. I never had these problems with 9.10. any suggestions?
[05:23] <mkjackson> ShadowApex: hate to ask for an inch and take a mile but to be honest I'm kinda surprised that this feature isn't already available somehow/somewhere
[05:23] <un214> how to get rid of nouveau driver?
[05:23] <un214> apt-get remove wants to remove world
[05:24] <DonScott> I shall now make my refined prediction of a steam on linux client.....it will be in June...either the 15th, 16th or 17th of this year at E3.
[05:24] <ShadowApex> drizzt_: ifconfig | awk '/inet/{print $2}' will get you on the right track
[05:24] <SingAlong> ShadowApex: was that for me?
[05:25] <ShadowApex> no... that was for drizzt_
[05:25] <ShadowApex> thus the drizzt_:
[05:25] <SingAlong> ShadowApex: just a guess coz i have spotty connection problems too and asked coz i saw ifconfig there. :)
[05:25] <Appl6> mkjackson: Sorry, I haven't been following.  What's the problem?
[05:26] <greezmunkey> onetinsoldier: take your time, thanks.
[05:26] <ShadowApex> mkjackson: What do you mean by "new page"? Do you mean any arbitrary line to separate the files?
[05:26] <tripelb> I just downloaded teh Ubuntu 10.04 onto a flash drive. I have done the hash check but only on windows. Would you please direct me to a page to do it in linux.
[05:27] <mkjackson> Appl6: not really a problem but I'm basically trying to take this java project I've been studying and dump it down to text.  to lessen the page count I want to print the project 4 pages to a side, double sided but if I do it one job at a time then I will be getting alot of single pages as a little square and nothing anywhere else (making the attempt moot)
[05:28] <tripelb> NEW PAGE means eject the sheet of paper and start on a new sheet. Obviously not just a line across the page.
[05:28] <tripelb> mkjackson, powerpoint?
[05:28] <mkjackson> tripelb: is there a character for that?  hate to sound n00bish... :-(
[05:29] <mkjackson> I mean, I know there's a new line character but I don't think that it really works that way in plain text... :-(
[05:29] <tripelb> mkjackson: I know some stuff but I dont know that. But I do know that powerpoint (and maybe a clone of it) has an easy "four-up" printing ability.
[05:30] <Appl6> mkjackson: This may help: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~help/doku.php?id=printing:linux_printing_guide
[05:30] <mkjackson> tripelb: I can get the 4 to a side/double sided working gravy but it's getting the files to be treated as one job that's the trick
[05:30] <Appl6> mkjackson: Particularly at the very bottom.
[05:30] <ShadowApex> mkjackson: Why can't you copy-paste this code into OO or something?
[05:30] <linux> hi every one
[05:30] <toolbear> hi.  say, is there a systematic procedure whereby one can turn an existing ubuntu installation into a live cd?
[05:31] <mkjackson> let me try that
[05:31] <tripelb> mkjackson, if you can stream it all to an openoffice word file than you can "Hand INsert" a "Page/newpage" "signifier"
[05:31] <ShadowApex> toolbear: Not really. There is remastersys though
[05:31] <linux> i wanna know can i pause the ubuntu iso download in firefox
[05:32] <ShadowApex> toolbear: allows you to create and customize an Ubuntu LiveCD any way you want
[05:32] <CaptainTrek> linux: yes
[05:32] <un214> how do I get rid of framebuffer?
[05:33] <tripelb> Hi, I know in WINDOWS you can use a special little program to create a "hash key" and check if the download )or a disk write) is 100%. HOW do I do this in LINUX?  (just put 10.04 on a flash drive)
[05:33] <joseAway> Hello all
[05:33] <toolbear> shadowapex:  ok, i will take a look at it.  thanks!
[05:33] <drizzt_> linux, you cannot
[05:33] <ShadowApex> np
[05:33] <joseAway> tripelb: that hash is called a 'checksum'
[05:33] <tripelb> Shadowapex thanks for the remastersys hint. I've wanted to do that.
[05:34] <ShadowApex> np ;P
[05:34] <tripelb> joseaway, thanks. Now how do I do it.
[05:34] <joseAway> tripelb: I don't think there is a way to checksum a disk to make sure it was written correctly
[05:34] <linux> r u sure and i drizzt_ Tripelb
[05:34] <tripelb> linux, if you do the download as a torrent, then you can.
[05:34] <joseAway> tripelb: you can checksum files easily in linux, let me check the command for you
[05:34] <tripelb> joseaway, there sure is in windows? why not in linux?
[05:35] <drizzt_> linux, http doesn't support resuming downloads
[05:35] <joseAway> tripelb: what are you trying to verify?
[05:35] <drizzt_> i mean most web-servers don't
[05:35] <linux> let me download something else and chack
[05:35] <ShadowApex> tripelb: You can verify the MD5 for files in linux
[05:36] <linux> what can i download something similar to ubuntu iso
[05:36] <tripelb> joseaway, I put Ubuntu 10.04 on a flash drive. I'd like to veryify it. Then I'll burn it and verify that too.
[05:36] <linux> wanna see is that possible
[05:36] <r3m> masturbation time
[05:36] <Appl6> drizzt_: linux: That's wrong, you can pause the Ubuntu ISO download.  Try it.
[05:37] <Zelda> ...
[05:37] <ShadowApex> tripelb: sha1sum -c filename
[05:37] <tripelb> linux: if you download with a TORRENT instead of using HTTP, then you CAN pause it.
[05:37] <drizzt_> great!
[05:37] <joseAway> tripelb: you can't verify a flash drive install against the checksums for an ISO image, because the flash drive uses a different filesystem. You can make sure the ISO downloaded correctly using the md5sum though
[05:37] <jrt05> tripelb, you can pause http also
[05:37] <drizzt_> how to change the stuff printed before 'login:' ?
[05:38] <tripelb> OK joseaway there must then be a webpage for that. I'll look again.
[05:38] <jrt05> drizzt_, PS1
[05:38] <happy-man> how to open perl script in glade-3?(new)
[05:38] <drizzt_> jrt05, server will cut you if you try
[05:38] <jrt05> drizzt_, sorry nvm
[05:38] <linux> Appl6, Tripelb plz dont confuse me, i have already finished 45% and wanna go out plz help
[05:38] <joseAway> drizzt_: that's called the terminal banner, iirc
[05:39] <joseAway> drizzt_: googling looks like you can edit /etc/issue to change it
[05:39] <tripelb> sorry linux, I went out and when I came home my download was complete.
[05:39] <drizzt_> cool, is there some manual what these \codes mean?
[05:40] <Appl6> linux: Do you have the Downloads window open in Firefox?  There should be a Pause button just to the left of the X in the red circle.
[05:40] <term_oldcomp1> ? getting a dbus error when trying to access the floppy drive.  how might I fix?
[05:40] <tripelb> linux: sorry if knowing 2 different ways confuses you. I'll keep my information to myself.
[05:40] <drizzt_> linux, use torrent, it's MUCH faster and more reliable
[05:40] <linux> i wanna off my pc
[05:40] <joseAway> drizzt_: well I found this by googling 'terminal banner ubuntu'
[05:40] <joseAway> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-change-login-message/
[05:40] <joseAway> worth a try I suppose
[05:40] <FloodBot1> joseAway: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <ShadowApex> linux: you should also look into the Firefox add-on "DownThemAll"; it has much better resume support and also acts as a download accelerator
[05:41] <linux> drizzt_, alrady finished 46%
[05:41] <Appl6> linux: That's different.  Right click the download and click "Copy Download Link".
[05:42] <un214> blacklist tileblit gets ignored
[05:42] <linux> Appl6, it will just copy half file bt i cant resume then after
[05:43] <jrt05> why do you want to pause your download?
[05:43] <Appl6> linux: Save the link in a text file.  Then when you boot your computer again use "wget -c LINK" to finish it.
[05:43] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:43] <raddy> Good Morning
[05:43] <Appl6> linux: You'll need to be in the directory with the partially downloaded file, and you'll have to rename the .part file so that it ends in .iso, not .iso.part.
[05:43] <joseAway> Really, #ubuntu, you have a 'flood bot' that triggers on three lines?
[05:43] <linux> Appl6, thats risky
[05:43] <joseAway> Good grief.
[05:44] <drizzt_> linux, technically you can download files by parts via http, butr most browsers and servers don't support it
[05:44] <raddy> I am experiencing one issue after switching to empathy im.
[05:44] <raddy> Even in linux in general
[05:44] <linux> ill try to download some different file and see
[05:45] <bastidrazor> drizzt_: /etc/motd.tail and /etc/motd are the files to edit.
[05:45] <drizzt_> how to know my terminal name? I've check environment and its not there
[05:45] <raddy> I have bunch of gmail accounts to keep a tab.
[05:45] <xnox> How do I reset "session autostart programs" to the default? I've removed some of them but now realised I need them.
[05:45] <Appl6> linux: There is no more risk in doing that than anything else you wanted to try.
[05:45] <drizzt_> bastidrazor, thans
[05:45] <Appl6> linux: But failing that, just copy it into a folder and torrent it from there.
[05:45] <raddy> I don't want to be running evolution always in the background.
[05:45] <raddy> to monitor those accounts
[05:46] <linux> ok
[05:46] <term_oldcomp1> ? getting a dbus error when trying to access the floppy drive.  how might I fix?
[05:46] <raddy> So is there a good gmail monitor out there with multi-account support?
[05:46] <wad> Hi, is this where people come when they're in trouble and need help with Ubuntu?
[05:46] <jrt05> drizzt_, is the command tty what you are looking for?
[05:46] <xnox> wad, yes
[05:47] <drizzt_> yes, that's it
[05:47] <linux> Appl6, hay i downloaded 4.5 mb .php file and it is supperting resume
[05:48] <wad> So, I think I might be screwed. On this dual-boot box (Win XP pro and Ubuntu) I upgraded to 10.04. It asked me something about partitions, for grub. I must have answered the question wrong, because XP would no longer boot. I think I over-wrote the Windows boot manager or something. So I repaired it, and now I can't boot at all!
[05:48] <wad> I'm running this from the Ubuntu disk, live CD.
[05:48] <term_oldcomp1> that's an ouch
[05:49] <wad> Anyone here know how to repair grub from the command line, from a live-CD session?
[05:49] <fox> hi
[05:49] <fox> al
[05:49] <bastidrazor> !grub2 | wad follow the link
[05:50] <wad> Okay, I'm severely crippled right now. Can hardly see anything on my screen, my resolution is all messed up.
[05:51] <bastidrazor> drizzt_: /etc/motd.tail populates /etc/motd  .. so by changing motd.tail your changes will be permanant
[05:51] <MPX> Sounds like your computer is drunk (insert random funny)
[05:51] <MPX> What seems to be the problem wad?
[05:51] <fox> i have problem with installation xp,mac os and windows 7 plz help
[05:52] <drizzt_> bastidrazor, but I don't have motd.tai;
[05:52] <bastidrazor> drizzt_: 10.04 may have gotten rid of it. previous versions had it.
[05:52] <wad> MPX, the upgrade of Ubuntu on this dual-boot box nuked everything. Can't boot to the hard drive any more.
[05:53] <MPX> What does it say?
[05:53] <MPX> You enter grub after you've started your pc...Do you see ubuntu there?
[05:53] <MPX> Or does nothing show at all?
[05:54] <wad> MPX: Grub only worked for the linux boot. Windows would just go to a blank screen. I think I chose poorly when it asked something about grub during the install.
[05:54] <MPX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[05:54] <tj1234> hey guys, i would just like to let you know, the package for installing grub-doc is currently set up to remove grub and grub-common, might want to fix that
[05:54] <joseAway> Anyone here installed Ubuntu on the HP mini 1000?
[05:54] <wad> MPX, so I figured grub had over-written the Windows boot sector. So I booted to Windows install disk, did a repair, and did "fixmbr". Now nothign boots at all! Running xchat from the Ubuntu install disk now. :(
[05:55] <joseAway> I can only find a wifi workaround for the previous release
[05:55] <fox> i have problem with installation xp,mac os and windows 7 i have ubuntu plz help
[05:55] <MPX> Or here wad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[05:55] <MPX> Wad: It seems that your windows install is eff'ed up if you ask me
[05:55] <MPX> Not grub's fault
[05:55] <xnox> fox what is your problem
[05:55] <MPX> Wad: Windows XP, vista or 7?
[05:55] <wad> MPX, XP pro
[05:56] <fox> xnox, now let me explain u
[05:56] <MPX> did you try a fixboot?
[05:56] <MPX> I'm not sure if that command works in XP
[05:56] <MPX> You could try
[05:56] <wad> (I'm having a really hard time seeing what people are typing, because the video resolution is messed up when I boot to the install disk. Sorry if I miss stuff!)
[05:56] <wad> I can only see a dozen lines of text in this chat window.
[05:56] <MPX> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6031733.html
[05:56] <MPX> See points 6
[05:57] <jrt05> wad, there is only 1 mbr, so I don't know what windows did to it, however It can't be good.
[05:57] <MPX> *point
[05:57] <abuayyoub> histo, Can someone help me out? I downloaded a dockbar appalet but for some reason it dosent appear when I click 'add to pannel'  How can I first find the appalet to add it to the dockbar  (The appalet is called MintMenu. I made a custom app launcher with the command "mintmenu" it launches a new window and the menu bar is inside the window )
[05:57] <abuayyoub> hello*
[05:57] <tj1234> so like, i was going to install grub-doc, and apt-get told me that it was goign to remove grub and grub-common. Im fairly sure thats a screwup with package configuration at the repositories, and i suggest you guys fix that before some poor sap installs it and ruins their bootloader
[05:57] <wad> This system has two hard drives. Windows on the first one, linux on the second.
[05:57] <Izinucs> ok.. what repo is sun-java in?  I enabled the partners repo but don't see it there either.
[05:58] <wad> So are there two MBRs, or just one?
[05:58] <MPX> wad: Might be two
[05:58] <MPX> Try booting from your second. Set option in bios if you have it
[05:58] <drizzt_> wad, bios seems only first one, unless configured otherwise
[05:58] <Krishnandu> waan, one
[05:58] <Izinucs> nvm
[05:58] <wad> So, where does grub live in the MBR?
[05:59] <drizzt_> wad, on hd0 if you haven't use BIOS boot menu
[05:59] <Krishnandu> wad, not necessary
[05:59] <wad> Both drives are SATA. sda and sdb.
[05:59] <Izinucs> wad: it lives *in* the MBR
[05:59] <wad> sda = windows, sdb = linux
[05:59] <wad> Izinucs, okay. The MBR on the first drive, I take it?
[05:59] <MPX> tj1234, I tried selecting grub-doc in packages
[05:59] <drizzt_> what happens when you boot?
[05:59] <MPX> No problem
[06:00] <wad> drizzt_, after the post, it just hangs. No message.
[06:00] <tj1234> weird, it attempts to remove my stuff
[06:00] <MPX> I got two boot managers...heh...one on sda and one on sdb
[06:00] <Izinucs> wad: whatever the boot drive is.. that's why it's call the master boot record.. could be sda or sdb .. you can also install in both locations just in case
[06:00] <wad> Izinucs, ah, okay!
[06:00] <wad> I think it's just the one on sda then.
[06:01] <fox> xnox, i have hdd with 2 partition primary ntfs containing only files and other where ubuntu is install now when i formated the ubuntu part with ntfs and try to install xp it just copied file and when it restarted it stoped and for mac os an error happened restart ur computer it did not installed
[06:01] <wad> Is it in a partition? Or elsewhere on the drive?
[06:01] <Krishnandu> it's located on 1st block
[06:01] <Krishnandu> usually
[06:01] <drizzt_> wad, it's in mbr and adjacent sectors
[06:01] <bastidrazor> fox: how is this a Ubuntu problem?
[06:01] <xnox> fox, where is you Mac OS X?
[06:02] <wad> drizzt_, okay, thanks, that helps.
[06:02] <Izinucs> wad: could be or could be like me today.. depending on boot order sda might be considered sdb and your bios. so for me I put it on sda and had to change the boot order of the drives to get it to work
[06:02] <wad> I checked fdisk, it's correct.
[06:02] <nishanth> very recently a video link that has been working is no longer working on ubunto can anyone come up with a soln
[06:02] <wad> sda = 1TB, sdb = 500GB
[06:02] <xnox> fox, And it looks like you need bootcamp support not ubuntu support.... since you have wiped it
[06:03] <wad> I think what I need to do is re-create the MBR, and reinstall grub into it?
[06:03] <Krishnandu> no just restore grub
[06:03] <tj1234> MPX: running apt-get install grub-doc -s comes up with the results of Remv grub; Remv grub-common; Inst grub-doc; Conf grub-doc
[06:03] <allividdi> jklægh
[06:03] <Krishnandu> i mean update
[06:03] <flashkidd> !ping
[06:03] <carb> yes or no.......i will keep searching myself.  But can I control nvidia gpu on Ubuntu 10.04?
[06:03] <Guest32024> hi!
[06:03] <fox> xnox, i need to install that i have only ubuntu and bastidrazor it is ubuntu prob cos ubuntu is booting from primary part where it may have loaded the bootloader
[06:04] <allividdi> how is it posible too use windows live mesenger in linux without using win
[06:04] <btr> !ping
[06:04] <MPX> tj1234, doesnt do that for me sorry
[06:04] <allividdi> wine??
[06:04] <Guest2613> ey switched from ubuntu to xunbutu how do I run "untrusted" program if i can't edit the permissions?
[06:04] <Guest32024> winE?
[06:04] <MPX> Just tells me that it's going to install  grub-legacy-doc and multiboot-doc next to it
[06:04] <xnox> fox, sorry I can't understand what you are saying at all. Can you please break it up into small sentences?
[06:04] <tj1234> oh right, im running 9.10, that might do it
[06:04] <xangua> allividdi: you can conect to msn with a lot of instant messengers; empathy comes in ubuntu by default
[06:05] <tj1234> but still, why make the actual programs dependencies, if you are just getting documentation?
[06:05] <Guest2613> ey switched from ubuntu to xunbutu how do I run "untrusted" program if i can't edit the permissions?
[06:05] <tj1234> because its trying to remove the same program im trying to get concise documentation for
[06:05] <Guest32024> WINE
[06:06] <allividdi> yee but the webcam dosent work with aMSN,emesen and ol that
[06:06] <abuayyoub> How do you make a program an appalet? for example I have a menu mintmenu.py that I want to use as a dockbar appalet
[06:08] <tripelb>  I'm using the liveCD and want to listen to an MP3 radio station (http://somafm.com/play/suburbsofgoa) -- how can I do that?  Movie player told me it doesnt know how to play an mp3.
[06:08] <fox> xnox, bastidrazor the primary partition is responsible fo boot pc see primary partition first to boot and the ubuntu boot loader must be in that so whenever i try to install new os it interfere with it, i tried to remove those file from primary partition from disk utility making secondary partition as bootable but still not working
[06:08] <happy-man> how can i install QT for development perl program?
[06:08] <allividdi> tripelb: vlc
[06:09] <xnox> !grub2 | fox
[06:09] <fox> ya grub2
[06:09] <drizzt_> motd is a serious business
[06:09] <xnox> fox, in that page you have everything you need to fix bootloader sequence. Most likly grub2 got into mbr and that's why you see it
[06:10] <drizzt_> they created a whole mother... directory but forgot to update man page, what dorks
[06:10] <xnox> fox, next time you install ubuntu on the last screen select advance and tell it to install grub onto partition eb. /dev/sda2 instaled of /dev/sda
[06:10] <allividdi> yee but the webcam dosent work with aMSN,emesen and ol that
[06:10] <xnox> fox, to prevent this in the future
[06:10] <malev_> hi
[06:10] <malev_> what's going on?
[06:11] <drizzt_> !ot
[06:11] <tripelb> allividdi: thanks
[06:11] <RoDiMuS-X> Ubuntu is AWESOME!!
[06:12] <fox> xnox, now second problem is that i have some xp files in my primary partition that files which copied during installation. and i dont wanna formate that drive cos it have some important files
[06:12] <fox> every thing is due to that partition
[06:12] <tripelb> allividdi: can I use sudo on a liveCD?
[06:13] <allividdi> or not
[06:13] <allividdi> yes i thin so
[06:14] <justin22885> hi everyone
[06:14] <happy-man> any one here to reply or not?
[06:15] <RoDiMuS-X> to reply to what
[06:17] <happy-man> RoDiMuS-X, how to work in glade-3 for perl gui?
[06:17] <RoDiMuS-X> Anyone know a way to configure Nautilis to switch from button dir structure to text box like windows 7
[06:17] <RoDiMuS-X> happy-man: sorry guy thats beyond my level
[06:17] <allividdi> i need to use my web cam in sum messenger but it dosent work
[06:18] <happy-man> ?
[06:18] <happy-man> ??
[06:18] <happy-man> ???
[06:18] <abuayyoub> histo, anyone know how to turn a program into an applet?
[06:18] <happy-man> ok
[06:18] <sharat87> hello, I have upgraded my karmic to lucid, and since then firefox asks to download php files instead of displaying them.. have tried reinstalling libapache2-mod-php and many other things.. any help?
[06:18] <RoDiMuS-X> depends on the program
[06:18] <abuayyoub> hello, anyone know how to run a program as an applet?
[06:18] <sharat87> I remember hitting 'replace' for php.ini in time of the upgrade..
[06:18] <allividdi> in every linux  mesenger my webcam dosent work
[06:19] <RoDiMuS-X> get a new web cam
[06:19] <histo> abuayyoub: ??
[06:19] <allividdi> som advice
[06:19] <Appl6> RoDiMuS-X: Ctrl+L
[06:20] <abuayyoub> @RoDiMus it's actually a menu bar, it should have an 'add to dockbar'  but its not coming up for some reason
[06:20] <abuayyoub> @histo sorry, for some reason when I type 'hello' it appears as your nick
[06:20] <RoDiMuS-X> i was having that issue with dockbar so i restarted and the issue was fixed
[06:21] <histo> abuayyoub: don't use @ just use peoples names it will hilight in their client then
[06:21] <allividdi> yooo
[06:21] <oznt> hi guys, maybe some here know
[06:21] <oznt> s
[06:21] <CaptainTrek> oznt:  ask your question
[06:21] <RoDiMuS-X> thanks appl6: your a life saver
[06:22] <oznt> CaptainTrek, you know there is the "info" command to read info pages, right ?
[06:22] <CaptainTrek> mhm
[06:22]  * isaac_ isn't a life saver, he's a jolly rancher. :)
[06:22] <abuayyoub> histo, yea, it has something to do with my tab to auto complete. for some reason as soon as I type h it prints your name. sorry bout that im gonna change it
[06:22] <CaptainTrek> oznt:  mhm
[06:22] <oznt> is there a way to read info pages with a real browser ?
[06:22] <allividdi> hello
[06:22] <CaptainTrek> oznt: i dont know, wait for someone else to answer :)
[06:24] <Problem> I have a problem with ubuntu lucid lynx.
[06:24] <Broseph> Have you tried calling Geek Squad?
[06:24] <Problem> Yes
[06:24] <wad> Okay, I'm getting closer. I've got the system so I can boot to Linux from the hard drive now. Yay!
[06:24] <happy-man> i have got many help today here
[06:24] <sharat87> anybody know how I can make apache to parse php files instead of sending them to download?
[06:24] <wad> sharat87, apt-get install php5 ?
[06:25] <sharat87> ok
[06:25] <wad> sharat87, sounds like you don't have php installed. :)
[06:25] <Problem> When I try to boot into ubuntu, it gives me an nvidia driver issue, and when I click ok, it gives me an ICEauthority error.
[06:25] <sharat87> the *, u are right.. where did php go.. uninstalled in the process of upgrade from karmic?
[06:26] <wad> So, after my Ubuntu upgrade, I now have no way to boot to Windows on this machine. The grub menu item is there, but when I choose it, I just get a blank screen. Any suggestions?
[06:26] <sharat87> wad, no still it downloads stuff :(
[06:27] <CaptainTrek> wad: might've killed the windows boot loader if its Vista or 7
[06:27] <Appl6> oznt: texi2html
[06:27] <wad> It's Win XP pro.
[06:27] <onetinsoldier> anyone want to see a really cool linux weather app? it's called 'aweather'. i jumped through a lot of hoops and a lot of work to figure out how to get it to compile in lucid. these were supposed to be for greezmunkey but he had a 'ping timeout' and i don't want them to go to waste! :-)
[06:27] <wad> So, I'm a tad confused. Grub lives in the MBR on /dev/sda. I've got Windows on sda, and linux on sdb. Where does the Windows boot loader live, if grub is on /dev/sda's MBR?
[06:28] <poutine_> onetinsoldier, I just tried it, it sucks
[06:28] <onetinsoldier> http://imagebin.org/98111  http://imagebin.org/98112  http://imagebin.org/98113
[06:28] <SunnyDP> Problem: sudo chown yourusername ~/.ICEauthority
[06:28] <CaptainTrek> wad: windows bootloader was on sda
[06:28] <CaptainTrek> wad: no clue why it doesnt work unfortunately
[06:28] <SunnyDP> Problem: then run, sudo chmod 644 -R ~/.ICEauthority
[06:29] <onetinsoldier> poutine_: you don't like it? how come? i think it's really cool! it's pretty unstable right now. did you have the full RSL radar support?
[06:29] <wad> CaptainTrek, so the Windows boot load and grub both co-habit the MBR on sda? That seems odd.
[06:29] <poutine_> onetinsoldier, heh, I was spouting disinformation, but you sound like you have some stake in it
[06:29] <Appl6> wad: The Windows bootloader is on the Windows partition.  GRUB boots Windows by jumping into Windows' bootloader on its partition.
[06:30] <onetinsoldier> poutine_: lol, roger. i was going to ask where did you get it? because man, was it hard to get it to compile. in fact, i dare anyone to get it to compile on lucid, hehe
[06:30] <wad> Appl6, ah, so the Windows bootload is actually on /dev/sda1 then.
[06:30] <Appl6> wad: When you're at the grub prompt, edit the Windows entry and pastebin it.  Or, just pastebin your grub configuration file.
[06:30] <wad> Appl6, sure! 1 sec.
[06:30] <Problem> So ubuntu light is ubuntu netbook?
[06:32] <wad> Appl6, http://pastebin.com/H4hwDNZx
[06:32] <SunnyDP> Problem: then restart your session
[06:33] <Appl6> wad: Looking.
[06:33] <wad> Appl6, two drives. sda = 1TB = windows. sdb = 500GB = linux
[06:34] <Smeh> how do you run an app as sudo under the gui in ubuntu?
[06:34] <rigoberto> ola
[06:34] <term_oldcomp1> ? getting a dbus error when trying to access the floppy drive.  how might I fix this?
[06:34] <sunson> Smeh: gksudo
[06:34] <rigoberto> alguien de mexico, tabasco.
[06:35] <Appl6> wad: Is Windows the second partition on the drive?
[06:35] <onetinsoldier> !es | rigoberto
[06:35] <wad> Appl6, there's just one partition on sda
[06:36] <wad> Appl6,    8        0<PHONE_NUMBER> sda
[06:36] <wad>    8        1<PHONE_NUMBER> sda1
[06:36] <wad> Appl6, sdb has linux on it.
[06:37] <Appl6> wad: What error do you get when trying to boot Windows?
[06:38] <wad> Appl6, no error, no message. Just a blank screen.
[06:38] <wad> I think I'm going to try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469763
[06:38] <wad> Appl6, the section titled: To make windows work again
[06:40] <Quan-Time> how can i tell what my LAN connection speed is ?? ie: 10/100 VS gbit..
[06:40] <sunson> any suggestions / recommendations for a decent, low-end graphics tablet that works well under ubuntu 9.10?
[06:41] <wad> Quan-Time, ethtool eth0
[06:41] <NimbleRabit> I've got a program that dumps it's output into a named pipe, and then another grabs the info and gives it to mencoder to encode.  I'm wondering if anybody knows how I can do this with 2 seperate computers.  E.G. Computer 1 runs program A and outputs into named pipe, computer 2 runs other program and gets info from named pipe to encode.
[06:41] <sunson> Quan-Time: ethtool
[06:41] <Appl6> wad: It may work, but I'm not sure that will do anything.
[06:41] <wad> sunson, beetcha
[06:41] <wad> Appl6, Okay, I'll give it a try tomorrow.
[06:41] <wad> Must sleep now. :)
[06:41] <sunson> NimbleRabit: nc
[06:41] <wad> Thanks for the help!
[06:41] <sunson> wad: :)
[06:42] <NimbleRabit> sunson, ?
[06:42] <loneowais> How do I get my appindicator into the messaging menu?... Python...
[06:42] <sunson> NimbleRabit: on m1 do nc -l -p 6789 (or some such port)
[06:42] <sunson> on m2 do blahblah | nc m1 6789
[06:43] <sunson> (correction: on m1, you must do nc -l -p 6789 | mencoder)
[06:43] <NimbleRabit> I have no idea what you're talking about sadly.  Can you point me somewhere where I can learn this?  My knowledge goes as far as mkfifo =D
[06:43] <chull> where to ask about printer setup problems in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[06:43] <sunson> NimbleRabit: man nc
[06:43] <Problem> sunnyDP: I haven't made a user yet--this is booting off of a usb drive
[06:43] <NimbleRabit> sunson, thanks lol
[06:43] <SunnyDP> Problem: ok then
[06:44] <joemac> Evening all, Would someone please have a look at this paste and tell me which one is my phone? http://pastebin.com/UG2QUChs
[06:45] <sweb> if possible to export all of dir in a folder to create dir and subdir later with command line ?
[06:47] <williballenthin> joemac: i suspect its the entries with "ACM". at least thats what i seem to remember
[06:47] <joemac> williballenthin: thanks
[06:49] <williballenthin> sweb: what do you mean export?
[06:49] <sweb> williballenthin, no i dont need system variable
[06:49] <sweb> williballenthin, did you ever use `tree` command line ?
[06:49] <sweb> see the result
[06:50] <sweb> williballenthin, list tree of directory and file in a folder
[06:50] <sweb> williballenthin, ok?
[06:50] <sweb> williballenthin, i want to save that structure and use it later
[06:50] <sunson> sweb: make a tar
[06:51] <sweb> sunson, can i tar just folders ?
[06:51] <lyrae> !lamp
[06:52] <williballenthin> sweb: tar -cv destination.tar source_folder
[06:52] <williballenthin> sweb: that creates an archive called destination.tar from the contents of source_folder
[06:52] <sunson> sweb: cp -dpR source_folder /tmp/src_folder && find /tmp/src_folder -type f -exec rm -f '{}' \; && tar -czf mybackup.tar /tmp/src_folder
[06:53] <sunson> sweb: after the above, mybackup.tar should contain only the dirs - untar and place your new files inside it.
[06:53] <williballenthin> sunson: oops, looks like i misunderstood the question. sorry to jump in
[06:53] <sweb> sunson, owww so long command, thank i test it now
[06:53] <MeatCurtains> Anyone having problems with wifi connectivity?
[06:54] <sweb> williballenthin, thank
[06:55] <lyrae> How can i get my toolbar to look like it does here: http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/124225-1.png ? im already using nautilus elementary and got the theme installed
[06:55] <histo> lyrae: are you using lucid?
[06:55] <lyrae> histo, yes
[06:56] <Sam_Fisher> what happened on Lost?
[06:56] <lyrae> Sam_Fisher, more questions than answers
[06:56] <Sam_Fisher> lyrae, LOL for sure!
[06:56] <MeatCurtains> You can't wire an antenna backwards can you?
[06:56] <RandPaul> I have an interesting question about the openness of Ubuntu
[06:57] <histo> lyrae: right click on your panel and customize it
[06:57] <RandPaul> I can modify it and redistribute?
[06:57] <lyrae> histo, right clicking on it nothing happens. you by 'panel', do you mean the toolbar?
[06:59] <RandPaul> OK  so I am allowed to modify Ubuntu's source code, make improvements, repackage, and market?
[06:59] <abuayyoub> histo, Can someone help me please. I need to download Skype but the skype.com website is blocked in my country. Is there anyone who could shoot me a .deb of the current skype build?
[06:59] <lyrae> yes. thats what mintlinux, vidalinux, etc, do.
[06:59] <RandPaul> is that true?
[06:59] <RandPaul> ok, so would I be allowed to sell it?
[06:59] <lyrae> yes
[06:59] <RandPaul> I am thinking of selling Mexisoft and market it in Mexico as an utterly new operating system
[06:59] <lyrae> abuayyoub, yes one sec
[06:59] <jaes> hi, i'm having some trouble using notify-osd with python
[07:00] <RandPaul> that is in itself an antivirus
[07:00] <MeatCurtains> Doesn't the license specify your selling your support of it and not the software its self?
[07:00] <Sam_Fisher> abuayyoub, would u be able to use it if it is blocked?
[07:00] <abuayyoub> lyrae, thanks alot. kinda a strange request i know. lol
[07:00] <RandPaul> most here haven't heard of linux or aren't familiar with linux
[07:00] <RandPaul> so I will conveniently not tell them that it is linux
[07:00] <RandPaul> is that allowed?
[07:00] <jaes> does anyone know how to set my notifications as a "confirmation bubble" so it can override the previous notifications already sent ?
[07:00] <abuayyoub> Sam_Fisher, it's just the skype.com website is blocked by the government here the app still works tho.
[07:01] <MeatCurtains> Still need to know if you can wire a wifi antenna backwards.
[07:01] <lyrae> abuayyoub, 32 or 64
[07:01] <NimbleRabit> sunson, sorry I'm a bit confused about how this would help.  I need to make the named pipe on machine 1, and dump data into it through this script.  My problem is that machine 2 can't access that pipe.  I'm unsure how to use nc to help since I -have- to right to a "file" with this script.
[07:01] <abuayyoub> lyrae,  64 should have mentioned that
[07:01] <RandPaul> Now the only thing is that negroes won't be allowed to purchase or use it
[07:01] <Sam_Fisher> MeatCurtains, which card?
[07:01] <RandPaul> as it will be private property by a private business
[07:01] <moetunes> MeatCurtains: someone in #hardware might know
[07:01] <RandPaul> I will have the right to not enter into contract with negroes
[07:01] <RandPaul> as their filthy ape fingers would sully linux
[07:02] <RandPaul> MexiSoft
[07:02] <abuayyoub> lyrae, really thank you. Government here are greedy bastards lol afraid to loose a buck they block VOIP.
[07:02] <onetinsoldier> MeatCurtains: GPL allows you to seel it, but anyone you sell it to is allowed to pass it on for free. and the source code may be made available by the person selling it as well. i think that's right but don't hold me to it 100%
[07:02] <lyrae> abuayyoub, no prob. where you from?
[07:02] <onetinsoldier> seel = sell
[07:03] <MeatCurtains> Its an atheros card
[07:03] <abuayyoub> I'm from the States originally but I'm in Dubai now.
[07:03] <onetinsoldier> MeatCurtains:  i mean 'the source code must* be made available...'
[07:03] <lyrae> abuayyoub, ahh ok
[07:03] <MeatCurtains> yeah, i'm aware of that part.
[07:04] <sunson> NimbleRabit: named pipes are only applicable _within_ the same host
[07:04] <NimbleRabit> sunson, oh okay that's what I was afraid of.  I don't think there's any way for me to do this then
[07:04] <sunson> NimbleRabit: if you're specific about having a _file_ on the remote machine (i see no reason why you need a file for this specific application), then you can use ssh
[07:05] <NimbleRabit> the application writes out to a file and I'm not experienced enough to change it is all
[07:05] <sunson> NimbleRabit: on m1: cat file | ssh remotehost 'mencoder blah' will solve the problem actually
[07:05] <sunson> you just need to setup passphraseless ssh
[07:05] <NimbleRabit> k I have that setup already, thanks
[07:05] <sunson> NimbleRabit: simpler setup is to use nc
[07:05] <MeatCurtains> Alright here is the deal, I had to repair the power board in my laptop. I missed marking the wifi antenna and need to know if they can go either way
[07:06] <lyrae> abuayyoub, see if this works: http://rapidshare.com/files/390935646/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_amd64.deb.html
[07:06] <Guest95910> Heyeveryone, I just installed UNE 10.4 on my HP mini 1116nr. Wifi isn't working. No ethernet to get packages. Ideas?
[07:07] <abuayyoub> lyrae, you won't believe if I tell  you Rapidshare is blocked as well haha
[07:07] <sweb> how can get path i bash file that executed ?
[07:07] <sweb> in bash command?
[07:07] <lyrae> oh man
[07:07] <abuayyoub> lol
[07:07] <Docteh> Guest95910: manually download packages to usb and manually install
[07:07] <sunson> NimbleRabit: you could still hack   around if you can tell your app to write to _some other file_
[07:08] <sunson> NimbleRabit: which could be /dev/stdout ;)
[07:08] <xTheGoat121x> I'm having a problem with Gwibber and Twitter. It doesn't show my whole timeline, only replies directed @ me
[07:08] <lyrae> abuayyoub, is this blocked for you: http://www.4shared.com/
[07:08] <abuayyoub> lyrae,  do you know of any programs like hotspot shielf for linux?
[07:08] <Guest95910> Docteh: I don't know where to get the packages. Point me to the right directoin?
[07:09] <abuayyoub> lyrae, 4shared works
[07:09] <Docteh> Guest95910: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:09] <sharat87> hello, my browser tries to download php files instead of displaying them.. if the php files are in my public_html and accessed through mod_rewrite.. otherwise, they work fine..
[07:09] <sharat87> what am I missing?
[07:09] <sunson> Guest95910: you can also copy the files directly into /var/cache/apt/archives and run apt-get install the  list of needed packages
[07:10] <lyrae> abuayyoub, http://www.4shared.com/file/tSYVlqG-/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_21081-1_.html
[07:10] <Docteh> hey with an eeepc with 512mb of ram should i install firefox or chromium?
[07:10] <sunson> sharat87: config your web server to treat php as php
[07:10] <Guest95910> Docteh: Chromium imo
[07:10] <sunson> sharat87: has nothing to do with your browser
[07:10] <abuayyoub> lyrae, thank you man it's downloading. I appreciate it.
[07:10] <sharat87> sunson: ok, how do I do that?
[07:11] <threexk> hello.  I tried add something to PATH in .pam_environment (per Ubuntu environment variables page), but it gets added twice.  How to prevent this?  PATH  DEFAULT=${PATH}:/mypath/
[07:11] <sharat87> yes, i know that.. but apache is parsing php if they are put in /var/www
[07:11] <sharat87> sunson: but is sending as a static file if through mod_rewrite..
[07:11] <abuayyoub> Anyone know anything about freenet?
[07:12] <maelaian> Docteh: Chromium have eeepc,firefox is heavy.
[07:12] <lyrae> abuayyoub, no prob
[07:12] <sunson> !freenet
[07:12] <sweb> how can i get full path i bash command line that executed ??\
[07:12] <Docteh> sharat87: how did you install php? cgi? mod_php?
[07:12] <__taco> hi, every body, Is Network-manager conflict with pppoeconf? when I start up pppoeconf and reboot, the icon of nm in notification disappear . what is matter with it?
[07:12] <sweb> some body help me
[07:12] <Guest95910> Docteh: I don't know which packages I'm missing that I need to get. Want me to give you the lspci
[07:12] <Guest95910> lshw -c network
[07:12] <Guest95910> iwconfig?
[07:12] <sunson> sweb: you mean access full path to your script from inside the script?
[07:12] <sharat87> Docteh: sudo apt-get install php5-common php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-cgi php5-mysql
[07:13] <sweb> sunson, yes
[07:13] <sharat87> after trying to troubleshoot my installation with tasksel..
[07:13] <sunson> sweb: path=`which $0`
[07:13] <sweb> sunson, always sweet answer, thank
[07:13] <sunson> but that works only if your script isn't aliases
[07:13] <Docteh> sharat87: check in /etc/apache2/modules_enabled and see if php is listed
[07:13] <sunson> for example, if your script is called do_something.sh and someone created an alias called 'ds', then this won't work
[07:14] <sunson> Docteh: his php is getting interpreted. his problem is when he gets to the PHP via a mod_rewrite
[07:14] <threexk> Does anyone actually use .pam_environment to set their environment variables as the Ubuntu documentation recommends?
[07:14] <sharat87> yes, php5.load and php5.conf are both there..
[07:14] <Docteh> sunson: how he's doing php determines how to make it work after a rewrite
[07:15] <Guest95910> no suggestions?
[07:15] <sharat87> ooh ok, wait.. it is not mod_rewrite.. it is mod_userdir...
[07:15] <sharat87> that's the one that goes into public_html right..?
[07:15] <sunson> sharat87: gah
[07:15] <abuayyoub> how do you install a jnlp file?
[07:15] <sharat87> slap my face!
[07:15] <Docteh> Guest95910: i usually google pci ids
[07:16] <sharat87> does mod_userdir keep any configs for itself somewhere?
[07:16] <histo> sharat87: there is #php and #httpd  just FYI
[07:17] <lyrae> !lamp
[07:17] <sharat87> histo: i am thinking this is a ubuntu specific one.. as it was working fine before my lucid upgrade
[07:17] <maelaian> After losing all hope in ubuntu, I shall give one more shot to 10.04 in the form of an attempted alternate install.
[07:18] <sweb> sunson, how can i get basename for `which $0` result
[07:18] <sweb> ?
[07:18] <sunson> sweb: ? pls rephrase
[07:18] <jaes> hi, is there anyone who used pynotify/notify-osd/python-notify with python on ubuntu who could help me there ?
[07:19] <moetunes> sweb: all bash scripts use the dirs in   $PATH
[07:19] <GarmaZed> Hey everyone.
[07:20] <sunson> moetunes: that's one of the many absurd thing I've heard about bash. what do you mean by "all bash scripts use the dirs in $PATH"?
[07:21] <sunson> $PATH is used by bash, yes - whenever one tries to execute a command it looks through in the PATH order.
[07:21] <sunson> it is transparent to your script... and by the time your script is already running, it is irrelevant :)
[07:22] <moetunes> sunson: why comment at all? - not talking to you
[07:23] <sunson> moetunes: this is a public forum. anyone is free to correct mistakes
[07:23] <moetunes> sunson: what was wrong? - and tell him not me pls...
[07:23] <sunson> gah
[07:24] <lyrae> so we have apt-get, aptitude and now tasksel. why 3
[07:24] <histo> lyrae: each has different features
[07:24] <lyrae> but very similar, no/
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[07:25] <sunson> lyrae: aptitude and apt-get - yes, arguably similar on many ground. tasksel? no - quite different.
[07:25] <Titus> SOS
[07:25] <Titus> i need help
[07:25] <sharat87> ok, i tried to (re?) enable my userdir module, and it said a real file exists and not touching it.. i removed the real files and re-enabled it.. all seemed happy and well.. but still apache sends php files as a download
[07:25] <CaptainTrek> !ask | Titus
[07:26] <Titus> does anyone know the command line instructions to installing Bastard
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> !info bastard
[07:26] <NimbleRabit> sunson, okay well editing the program is a bit above me, but thanks for the cat file | ssh machine2 'do stuff here' tip.  One question, I'll need a way to make that keep getting everything in my local pipe continuously right?  Would tail -f do the job, or am I way off base here?  Sorry if I'm bothering you.
[07:27] <sean_> ubuntu is for noobs. discuss.
[07:27] <lyrae> why?
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Titus: is it a binary decompiler?
[07:27] <sean_> real men use debian
[07:27] <jengc0il> hello world
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> sean_: no, it's offtopic here. #ubuntu-offtopic will gladly fill you in
[07:27] <Titus> Yes
[07:27] <lyrae> what if youre a girl like me?
[07:27] <sunson> NimbleRabit: not edit the program - do a --help and see if it supports outputting to some other file. Then you can run the program as (on m1): prg --outfile /dev/stdout | ssh m2 mencoder blah blah
[07:27] <lyrae> good thing i dont use deb
[07:27] <jengc0il> hi Titus
[07:28] <sunson> NimbleRabit: and it will get "everything" that is coming from the first command
[07:28] <Sam_Fisher> lyrae, Good one!
[07:28] <jengc0il> sunson: need help
[07:28] <Titus> Hello jengc0il
[07:28] <sean_> haha yeah
[07:28] <jengc0il> Titus: where r u now
[07:28] <lyrae> just kidding though. i'm not a female
[07:28] <NimbleRabit> sunson, OHHHHH
[07:28] <NimbleRabit> sunson, I understand you now.  Sorry I'm a bit out of my element, but that makes sense.  I'll see if I can get that working, thanks.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Titus: i found the (ironic) source :)
[07:29] <Titus> well sitting in front of my computer
[07:29] <Sam_Fisher> lyrae, you are now! until u change your name here
[07:29] <sunson> NimbleRabit: simplest example: cat /etc/passwd | ssh m2 'cat >/tmp/his_passwd'
[07:29] <lyrae> =D i can be both
[07:29] <Titus> ActionParsnip please give me the location
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Titus: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bastard/bastard_bin-0.16.tgz
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Titus: I believe the bin folder there contains precompiled binarys
[07:31] <jengc0il> Titus: :D
[07:31] <sunson> ssh lyrae touch /dev/genitals ;)
[07:31]  * jengc0il live from my class
[07:31] <Flannel> sunson: That's not appropriate
[07:31] <lyrae> haha
[07:31] <Titus> Thankx ap
[07:31] <Docteh> also unimaginative :-/
[07:32] <Sam_Fisher> sunson, Baddd LOL
[07:32] <sp4z> anyone got wine+dx9+.net going on their ubuntu install here?
[07:32] <moetunes> seems it was a good idea to put sunson on ignore...
[07:32] <sunson> moetunes: haha. because I pointed out a mistake in what you said?
[07:32] <Sam_Fisher> sunson,  can not be ignored!
[07:33] <Sam_Fisher> sunson, see what you did you scared Lyrae away
[07:33] <sunson> heh
[07:34]  * sunson is still looking for a recommendation on a good graphics tablet that works (flawlessly) with 9.10
[07:34] <cryptide> hey wtf my close, minimize, max icons moved
[07:34] <Sam_Fisher> cryptide, stop drinking?
[07:34] <Flannel> cryptide: in 10.04 they default to the left side, yes.
[07:35] <sharat87> ok, i am done debugging mod_userdir.. how do I make apache follow symlinks?
[07:35] <cryptide> i dig the new icons everywhere... but damn this is kinda whack
[07:35] <cryptide> can i move em back?
[07:36] <Sam_Fisher> cryptide, easy fix if you want
[07:36] <Flannel> !controls | cryptide
[07:36] <openmindj> any one here work from home by using a ubuntu setup??
[07:36] <sunson> openmindj: i am right now (supposed to be) WFH'ing :D
[07:36] <cryptide> so are they better off on the left hand side?
[07:37] <openmindj> lol :)
[07:37] <sunson> cryptide: switch your window manager if its a big issue.
[07:37] <Sam_Fisher> cryptide, I like them where they were before and that's where I put them
I don't run KDE / GNOME or any of the 2GB large bloated WMs</asbestos>
[07:38] <Flannel> sunson: Please help this channel remain ontopic, thanks.
[07:38] <openmindj> what type of work do you do  @ sunson?
[07:38] <Flannel> cryptide: We're still not sure.  Canonical claims they are.  You can easily move them back though
[07:38] <sunson> Flannel: okay. didn't know that was OT. sorry about that.
[07:38] <sweb> how can i off output command in bash command line ?]
[07:38] <sunson> sweb: stty -echo
[07:39] <cryptide> Flannel, thanks
[07:39] <sunson> sweb: that "offs" what you type. to "off" the output, you could just append >/dev/null to the command line
[07:41] <sweb>  sunson, i'm a command in my bash file that have a output how can i ignore output ?
[07:42] <openmindj> does any one here know how to compile Bristol with jack support?
[07:42] <sweb> for example rm that send output 'rm: cannot remove `/this/is/my/path/*': No such file or directory'
[07:42] <sunson> sweb: thats stderr
[07:43] <sunson> sweb: so append  2>/dev/null to the end of the command
[07:43] <sunson> sweb: in the above "rm" context, though, you're better off doing rm -f /this/is/my/path/*
[07:44] <sunson> sweb: but beware of the side-effects of using -f!
[07:44] <anodesni> I want to buy this: hauppauge pctv nanoStick solo 73e SE, has anyone used it with ubuntu, does it work?
[07:46] <alejandro> can someone explain how to update my flash, I just updated to Lucid
[07:46] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  install the packages for it
[07:47] <CaptainTrek> alejandro: lemme boot to lucid and i'll tell you them k?
[07:47] <CaptainTrek> i need to reboot
[07:47] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: k
[07:47] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: pm me
[07:48] <openmindj> restricted packages for ubuntu should update flash for Lucid
[07:48] <karrar> is pppoe supported in nm 10.04 ?
[07:49] <illuminatus> hi
[07:49] <openmindj> hi
[07:50] <CaptainTrek> now who was asking about installing Flash again?
[07:50] <bobbyyu> Can I still install Gimp on the Ubuntu 10.4 DVD?
[07:50] <rocket16> Is Getting Things compatible with Evolution Tasks?
[07:50] <bobbyyu> I mean from
[07:50] <drizzt_> yes, no
[07:50] <illuminatus> how can I install spell check in spanish in my ubuntu ?
[07:50] <sunson> CaptainTrek: alejandro
[07:50] <Docteh> !dvd
[07:50] <rocket16> bobbyyu: I don't know about the DVD but from the default CD, you can't
[07:50] <Docteh> awww
[07:50] <illuminatus> I have the spanish languaje but I cant check it in spanish
[07:50] <illuminatus> I just have english
[07:51] <alejandro> sunson: yes
[07:51] <chucphuc> hello communication UBT
[07:51] <drizzt_> illuminatus, aspell-es or myspell-es
[07:51] <bobbyyu> This is why I'm still using 9.10.
[07:51] <illuminatus> thanks drizzt_
[07:51] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: hey
[07:51] <Docteh> bobbyyu: installing packages via the internet is that bad?
[07:52] <bobbyyu> Yes, it is.
[07:52] <CaptainTrek> alejandro: okay lemme load up Synaptic
[07:52] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: k
[07:52] <bobbyyu> I prefer everything from the disc.
[07:52] <rocket16> bobbyyu: But, you can just download GIMP debs from Internet, and keep them in a Pendrive or DVD, and then use it to install GIMP on any machine running Ubuntu.
[07:52] <bobbyyu> At least the basic stuff I need.
[07:53] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  Flash as in the thing that lets you play flash games online and watch youtube and stuff right?
[07:53] <CaptainTrek> to be sure
[07:53] <rocket16> bobbyyu: Also, if you wish to make your own flavour of Ubuntu, use Remastersys or UCK,
[07:53] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: yes
[07:53] <bobbyyu> rocket16: Good idea
[07:53] <rocket16> bobbyyu: Thanks, :) My pleasure
[07:53] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  the package you'll need is flashplugin-installer
[07:53] <goku12205> hey ppl
[07:54] <rocket16> Hello goku12205
[07:54] <drizzt_> just go to adobe website and download it
[07:54] <alejandro> it says i already installed it
[07:54] <CaptainTrek> alejandro: did you restart Firefox?
[07:55] <goku12205> i have ubuntu on a vmware can i still attack other machines?
[07:55] <lyrae> !lamp
[07:55] <alejandro> i upgraded karmic to the newest version i think i should just reinstall flash
[07:55] <alejandro> yes
[07:55] <Docteh> goku12205: bridge the vm to the network
[07:55] <drizzt_> goku12205, with the bat?
[07:55] <peyton_westlake> Anyone in here messed around with the way ubuntu uses ram? Or maybe can point me in the direction of someone who has. I'm still learning Linux and don't feel comfortable going to Gentoo yet.
[07:55] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  Lucid right?
[07:56] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: yep
[07:56] <alfredo> hi, how can i fix the sound problem on my sony vaio vpceb11fm, it has no sound, if i plug in headphones it sounds very low, i entered to alsamixer through the console and maxed everything but still no sound :/
[07:56] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  check Synaptic for... um... hangon
[07:56] <drizzt_> why no-one cares about universe packages in Ubuntu?
[07:56] <rocket16> Can there be any Laptop edition of Ubuntu in future? I suppose, we need a collection of Laptop-Tools for Ubuntu, like laptop-mode-tools and more, bundled to make Laptops work efficiently, although the default one runs pretty well.
[07:57] <goku12205> i'm trying to learn how to get open shell's over networks, any advice?
[07:57] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  32bit or 64bit Ubuntu
[07:57] <Docteh> peyton_westlake: what sort of memory usage? the ureadahead memory thing?
[07:57] <rocket16> goku12205: Use Secure-Shell SSH, for Shell Networks.
[07:58] <alejandro> 32
[07:58] <rocket16> goku12205: And, you can download nautilus-open-terminal extension, and enter into networks, and right click and select open terminal here.
[07:58] <goku12205> is there other way's to open remote shell's, like using an exploit and shellcode? idk im confused?
[07:58] <ouyes> Is there a channel talking about hardware?
[07:58] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: i think i just have to remove it and re install
[07:59] <CaptainTrek> alejandro: right click and hit completely remove
[07:59] <CaptainTrek> on the package in synaptic
[07:59] <peyton_westlake> Docteh: well, I have two older computers, and they bog down fairly easy. One is maxed out at 512 mb and the other is at 768mb with a max of 1gb.
[07:59] <rocket16> ouyes: As far as the hardware issue is related to Ubuntu, you are welcome to discuss here.
[07:59] <Docteh> goku12205: pwning noobs is kind of  off topic
[07:59] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: sudo aptitude remove flashplugin-installer
[07:59] <drizzt_> goku12205, actual exploits cost large money, no-one will give them out for free
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  that works
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> or
[08:00] <goku12205> then i'll just create my own
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> alejandro:  sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[08:00] <CaptainTrek> you could do either of those
[08:00] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid
[08:00] <rocket16> Is there any forkbomb scanner?
[08:01]  * CaptainTrek still uses sudo apt-get xD
[08:01] <Docteh> peyton_westlake: you could give xfce4 a go if you haven't already
[08:02] <drizzt_> xfce4 takes as much memory as gnome
[08:02] <Docteh> o
[08:02] <alejandro> CaptainTrek: brb
[08:02] <CaptainTrek> k
[08:02] <Docteh> that sucks
[08:02] <goku12205> is the book shellcoders handbook anygood?
[08:02] <Docteh> who reads books?
[08:03] <moetunes> drizzt_: it doesn't - xubuntu uses as much memory as ubuntu these days - xfce is still light
[08:03] <goku12205> alot of people actually
[08:03] <peyton_westlake> Docteh: Oh, I have, and didn't notice much if any difference. Thanks for pointing out ureadahead though. Interesting stuff!
[08:03] <larmbr> hello every one here .i 'm actually a newbie on ubuntu and irc. everytime i log on to some channel .the xchat would exit automatically some time later.  what's wrong ?could anyone tell me ,THX!
[08:04] <NimbleRabit> sunson, I did it with nc =D
[08:04] <sunson> NimbleRabit: :) cool
[08:04] <goku12205> any help on buffer overflows or stack overflows
[08:04] <NimbleRabit> sunson, very slick.  Thanks a lot for all your help.  It turns out stdout was what I needed to learn about
[08:04] <drizzt_> !hack
[08:04] <Docteh> !hackers
[08:04] <ouyes> rocket16, yes it is, people is mad at  chasing the speed of the hardware, they change their laptops and PCs as soon as Intel or AMD releases a new CPU and platform, do we really need that fast to run our system? does ubuntu 10.04 need a better performance cpu to run smoothly than old version such as 8.04 ?
[08:05] <drizzt_> ouyes, yes, because of bloat
[08:05] <goku12205> Docteh,?
[08:05] <ouyes> drizzt_, bloat? where?
[08:05] <sighodke> Hi, I am trying to install the m68hc1x development toolchain on 10.04 but I can't find the pkg... Are they removing some pkgs?
[08:05] <Docteh> icewm and xterm aren't bloated yet :)
[08:06] <ouyes> drizzt_, cloud?
[08:06] <drizzt_> in kernel... in userland.. everywhere
[08:06] <sunson> whats that anti-thesis to Moore's law? it goes something like "software bloat keeps the usable speed of computers constant even though CPU speed doubles according to Moore's law"
[08:07] <Docteh> no, our perception of speed changes as time goes on
[08:07] <goku12205> Kernel Hacking?
[08:07] <drizzt_> get lost
[08:07] <rocket16> ouyes: Not required so much, because default Ubuntu running Gnome needs a minimum of 384 MB RAM to run properly, while Kubuntu running KDE needs 512 MB. Also, Ubuntu has lighter versions like Lubuntu and Xubuntu, which have much less System requirements. So, I personally don't feel so that we need to upgrade the Systems again and again. Better to do that in a Systematic way like once in 8 monthes.
[08:07] <ouyes> drizzt_, rocket16 as far as I know , all the Unix system take up to 2% market share in the personal computer.
[08:07] <Docteh> goku12205: this room is all noobs, get out before the noobishness gets on you! ;)
[08:08] <peyton_westlake> Alfredo: When you open up your volume control, what do you have selected as optoins for playback?
[08:08] <MPX> So, trying to connect to the WPA network through the CLI.... so I tried WPA_Supplicant. It says it connects but IWConfig shows it at 1 MBPS...so I guess it's the wrong driver (tried all)
[08:08] <moetunes> Docteh: not everyones a noob
[08:08] <wage> The files at /usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_ZA.* were giving me some errors when launching pidgin, will deleting them cause anything any harm?
[08:08] <MPX> How do I connect to wpa thru CLI other then wpa_supplicant
[08:08] <rocket16> ouyes: Yes, but according to latest survey, Ubuntu alone takes 2%, with others ranging more. In addition, the use of Linux is even on increase, unlike commercial ones like Mac or Windows.
[08:08] <drizzt_> ouyes, wrong, it's about 0,1%
[08:08]  * sighodke wow
[08:08] <Docteh> moetunes: sssh, trying to get rid of some leet mad haxor
[08:09] <goku12205> so this room is full of script kiddies, i'm rlly just trying to learn something new on linux
[08:09] <moetunes> heh
[08:09] <ouyes> rocket16, once in eight month , that is the circle of ubuntu' s release
[08:09] <MPX> ouyes, rocket16 : 6 months. Not 8
[08:09] <rocket16> ouyes: No, Ubuntu releases in 6 monthes,
[08:09] <rocket16> MPX: I am talking about hardware upgradation, not Ubuntu Release, still Ok
[08:10] <moetunes> goku12205: you can learn plenty in here ;]
[08:10] <drizzt_> !ot
[08:10] <ouyes> rocket16, yes 6 months
[08:10] <goku12205> like what?
[08:10] <nishanth> does anyone know how to get an online video streaming work on firefox?
[08:10] <rocket16> goku12205: Sure, :) You can also download Ubuntu getting-started PDF for free, forlearning more about Ubuntu 10.04
[08:10] <moetunes> !manual
[08:11] <rocket16> nishanth: What? I think simple Flash-Plugin will do,
[08:11] <goku12205> i'm trying to learn to code and rlly start exploring what computers can and can't do
[08:11] <MPX> So, trying to connect to the WPA network through the CLI.... so I tried WPA_Supplicant. It says it connects but IWConfig shows it at 1 MBPS...so I guess it's the wrong driver (tried all).... Is there a howto for this? I use black box window manager
[08:11] <Guest89384> Hey so I'm on 10.4, and for some reason my bar at the top has dissapeared.
[08:12] <drizzt_> !panels
[08:12] <nishanth> rocket16 well this uses the mms plugin and it used to work on ubuntu a while ago for some odd reason it stoped working lately
[08:12] <Guest89384> Thanks
[08:12] <goku12205> nobody code's here?
[08:12] <ouyes> MPX, rocket16, drizzt_  what is the market share of our ubuntu?
[08:13] <MPX> Got no idea
[08:13] <easiertoread_> drizzt_: Didn't work..
[08:13] <drizzt_> about 60%*1,1%
[08:13] <drizzt_> 0,6% i believe
[08:13] <easiertoread_> drizzt_: It just bobs my desktop icons up, then back down as if it did something
[08:13] <ouyes> drizzt_,  60%*1,1%? you mean?
[08:14] <ouyes> drizzt_, 0.6%
[08:14] <ouyes> drizzt_, less than 1%?
[08:14] <drizzt_> yes, total Linux marketshare was 1,1% in last month
[08:15] <Docteh> how is that counted?
[08:15] <drizzt_> Docteh, by useragents
[08:15] <easiertoread_> Any suggestions on this?
[08:16] <easiertoread_> Hmm .. Perhaps it's a compiz issue.
[08:16] <jpds> drizzt_: I suppose Google-Bot has a strong market share then.
[08:16] <easiertoread_> hmm nope
[08:17] <easiertoread_> ffs, Ubuntu doesn't seem to be the most stable of OSs right now
[08:17] <toxster> hi, how would i go about to preventing normal users from seeing nothing but their own processes?
[08:17] <easiertoread_> Every day I have some new problem, for no reason.
[08:17] <easiertoread_> It's ridiculous.
[08:17] <jpds> easiertoread_: You don't have that on other OSes?
[08:17] <drizzt_> you didn;t pay a cent to developers to fix them, so don;t complain
[08:18] <easiertoread_> jpds: Actually.. No. I get less of them on Windows
[08:18] <easiertoread_> Or usually, I can admit soome fault.
[08:18] <Docteh> on windows theres only new problems whenever a new version comes out, or patches come out
[08:18] <AkA23> hey. i have a problem restoring a XAMPP backup. can anyone help me?
[08:18] <easiertoread_> Ok, I am on 10.4.. 9.10 was much better for this stuff
[08:18] <Docteh> i know i cant :)
[08:19] <linux> easiertoread_, what do u mean is 9.10 is batter then 10.4
[08:19] <ouyes> drizzt_, where you find this?total Linux marketshare was 1,1% in last month
[08:20] <drizzt_> ouyes, statcounter
[08:20] <Docteh> upgrades with 9.10 also sucked, fyi
[08:21] <arcsky> if u do "sudo noox" and there wanna touch my screen why doesnt that work?
[08:21] <linux> Docteh, i am planing to upgrade to 10.4 what r ur views
[08:21] <jpds> linux: 10.04 is a lot better. :)

[08:21] <easiertoread_> linux: I mean, I get less random errors.
[08:21] <Docteh> linux: be prepared to yell khann at the init system ;)
[08:22] <easiertoread_> Like this crap...
[08:22] <easiertoread_> Any way to just restore the default settings for panels?
[08:22] <AkA23> so, no help with my XAMPP restore backup problem?
[08:22] <linux> Docteh, i am new to linux
[08:22] <moetunes> !panels | easiertoread_
[08:22] <easiertoread_> moetunes: Doesn't work.
[08:22] <drizzt_> easiertoread_, try to delete .gnome* in your home and re-login
[08:23] <jpds> drizzt_: That sounds like a very bad idea.
[08:23] <ouyes> drizzt_, you mean http://www.statcounter.com/?
[08:23] <jpds> drizzt_: Considering there's a lot of other configuration in their he might not want to erase.
[08:23] <linux> i can get free user guide at my home for free like the cd
[08:23] <drizzt_> yes
[08:24] <linux> how is can i get it
[08:24] <moetunes> !manual | linux
[08:24] <easiertoread_> Yay, got it restored to some default apparntly
[08:24] <linux> ya manual
[08:24] <drizzt_> linux, i'm afraid there are not good ubuntu manuals
[08:24] <easiertoread_> No wait .. If I do sudo debconf gnome-panel, it restores the default panels, until I kill that process.
[08:25] <moetunes> drizzt_: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[08:25] <drizzt_> because of complex ubix underpinnings which take some existing knowledge to learn
[08:25] <linux> drizzt_, wanna first understand linux
[08:25] <drizzt_> can you imagine a normal person learning by heart what is the difference between ``, '' and ""?
[08:26] <AkA23> normal person?:))
[08:26] <moetunes> drizzt_: I'm normal and i managed :]
[08:26] <ouyes> drizzt_, there is one ,
[08:27] <easiertoread_> Ok nope, none of the solutions on google work :/
[08:27] <easiertoread_> Absolute POS 10.4
[08:27] <linux> where can i get knowledge about linux system files, it architecture i mean how the windows has system files,windows file the program file etc
[08:27] <nomad77> easiertoread_: mv ~/.icons ~/.icons-old
[08:28] <ouyes> drizzt_, how do you know the exact percentage of the OS market shares ?
[08:28] <easiertoread_> nomad77: What's that meant to do? :)
[08:28] <moetunes> linux: oreilly has books about that
[08:29] <imissu> 春哥纯爷们
[08:29] <nomad77> easiertoread_: probly logout/login,you had the spastic bouncing icons on desktop,if not my mistake
[08:29] <plouffe> ouyes, sampling from http headers?
[08:29] <TingoL> My flash isn't working help please
[08:29] <moetunes> !cn | imissu
[08:29] <easiertoread_> nomad77: erm nope, not afaik
[08:29] <nomad77> k,sorry
[08:29] <drizzt_> ?
[08:29] <DanaG> Trying to change color in byobu:
[08:29] <DanaG> Error: /home/dana/.byobu/profile file exists, but is not
[08:29] <easiertoread_> nomad77: From wht I  understand, gnome-panel is screwing up.
[08:30] <toxster> hi, how would i go about to preventing normal users from seeing nothing but their own processes?
[08:30] <toxster> bash --restricted doesent to that
[08:30] <DanaG> and yes, that is all it says.
[08:30] <DanaG> "exists, but is not".
[08:30] <ouyes> imissu, this is the international channel, speak in English
[08:30] <linux> moetunes, i search on net bt i did not get it. i want nise good book starting with basic
[08:30] <drizzt_> DanaG, writable may be?
[08:31] <ennui> does anyone here run ubuntu on a tablet PC?
[08:32] <drizzt_> linux, try unix: the program environment
[08:32] <DanaG> eh, I figured it out.
[08:32] <DanaG> looks like the lost bit was "a symlink"
[08:32] <linux> drizzt_, where will i get
[08:32] <DanaG> cd .byobu
[08:32] <DanaG> rm profile
[08:32] <DanaG> ln -s /usr/share/byobu/profiles/common profile
[08:32] <drizzt_> linux, amazon? it's quite old book
[08:32] <moetunes> linux: oreilly book called   linux in a nutshell
[08:33] <sidney> I just installed minimal ubuntu for the second time and both installs fail to boot how do i troubleshoot this
[08:33] <linux> drizzt_, can i get any it for free book post like livecd
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:33] <drizzt_> sidney, give us detais
[08:33] <linux> drizzt_, any basic book to study linux
[08:34] <moetunes> sidney: we'll some info about errors reported or how it fails
[08:34] <TingoL> can someone help me I can't get flash videos to play :<
[08:34] <Docteh> linux: you could print out that ubuntu manual yourself
[08:34] <ouyes> here is a curve of linux market shares http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9&qpcustom=Linux
[08:34] <linux> drizzt_, is it possible to download .pdf
[08:35] <sidney> moetunes: it just stops after verifying DMI pool data
[08:35] <ouyes> how many people are using ubuntu in the world ?
[08:35] <linux> ouyes thnx
[08:35] <classvoid> 1% we rock!
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: can you please use: http://pastebin.com to give the output of; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[08:35] <peyton_westlake> TIngot: WHich version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:35] <wasabi> !controls
[08:36] <TingoL> ActionParsnip: lucid lynx
[08:36] <TingoL> missdirected
[08:36] <TingoL> peyton_westlake: lucid
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: np ;)
[08:36] <TingoL> :)
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: just need to make sure you don't have loads of flash packages installed
[08:37] <peyton_westlake> Tingol: I'd take ActionParsnip's advice.
[08:37] <ouyes> linux, what?
[08:37] <ouyes> linux, ah  your name
[08:37] <TingoL> It worked fine actually but i tryed to follow some guides about how to make flash less cpu consuming and now it doesn;t work :/
[08:37] <moetunes> sidney: and what sort of h/ware pls?
[08:38] <linux> ouyes, i wanna know the largest os used in world thats y
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: ok let's see what you got and we can run from there. If your install is 64bit you can use the command on the community flash page and get 64bit flash. The flashplugin-installer uses nspluginwrapper which can chew cpu/ram
[08:38] <plouffe> I wonder which
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Linux: it will be linux
[08:39] <ouyes> linux, I do not quite follow you ?
[08:39] <linux> ouyes, y microsoft is in top position
[08:39] <TingoL> ActionParsnip: It's 32bit
[08:39] <sidney> 80 gb HD 12 Gb partition for ubuntu 2.4 Atholon 2 Gigabyte GA7av xp mother board 1 gig memory
[08:39] <plouffe> bco
[08:39] <machen> #cod4.wars
[08:39] <plouffe> z
[08:39] <Bishop_> hi
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: ok cool, what's the output of the command?
[08:39] <rocket16> linux: Business strategy and campaign of Microsoft, also unwilling nature of people to switch to Linux.
[08:40] <rocket16> !hi | Bishop_
[08:40] <Mr_Queue> Can anyone here shed some light on when the fix for the Ubuntu One will be pushed out? I saw the bug report was closed as fixed.
[08:40] <ouyes> linux, quite a few smart brains are running linux,
[08:40] <moetunes> sidney: shouldn't be a hassle on that system - did you do the md5 check on the cd?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Tingol: if you have a newish video card you can use the 10.1 plugin to make you gpu work with flash
[08:40] <rocket16> linux: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_has_the_Windows_operating_system_been_the_most_popular (Check this link out)
[08:40] <maelaian> Can anyone assist me with a install problem on a fresh install of 10.04? After reboot I enter my user information, and after I hit enter, I see my background and the cursor, but thats it. Mouse is responsive but the key commans to switch to a tty dont seem to work an keyboard isn't lighting up.
[08:41] <sidney> moetunes: no
[08:41] <rocket16> linux: Also, http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_windows_the_most_popular_operating_system
[08:42] <linux> i thing because it lets people to crack it roknir ouyes
[08:42] <moetunes> sidney: if it has happened twice I would do that - there's an option for it in the minimal cd boot menu?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> stupid client :(
[08:42] <sidney> moetunes: I'll check
[08:42] <moetunes> k
[08:43] <Bishop_> vista = windows 7 beta.
[08:43] <ouyes> linux, roknir??
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !ot | bishop_
[08:43] <ouyes> !hi | ouyes
[08:43] <easiertoread_> Eurgh, still doesn't work
[08:44] <easiertoread_> No matter what I try, POS.
[08:44] <Mr_Queue> haha
[08:44] <linux> ouyes, what?
[08:44] <moetunes> easiertoread_: might be what you tried to do...
[08:44] <ouyes> linux, what is the word roknir
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> TingoL: you there dude?
[08:44] <ouyes> linux a name I see
[08:44] <easiertoread_> moetunes: WHich is anything and everything that google throws up.
[08:44] <moetunes> heh
[08:45] <linux> hi is the user like me and u ouyes
[08:45] <karrar> what is the best client for irc in among ubuntu packages ?
[08:45] <maelaian> bitchx
[08:45] <moetunes> !best
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Karrar: there is no best
[08:45] <linux> see the above post
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> Karrar: best is an opinion so is never concrete
[08:45] <karrar> I mean rich
[08:45] <peyton_westlake> !opinion
[08:46] <rocket16> linux: Thanks to the business strategy of Microsoft, that Windows is being pushed everywhere, including Studies, Business and Research. Since Windows officially gained reputation as a "Ready-To-Use" and easy (?) OS, so people are familiar with Windows. The 1998-2004 time even confused Windows and Computer to be inseperable (in India). So, all technical support is about Windows. The tremendous popularity base of Windows, and misinformation about Linux also h
[08:46] <maelaian> Can anyone assist me with a install problem on a fresh install of 10.04? After reboot I enter my user information, and after I hit enter, I see my background and the cursor, but thats it. Mouse is responsive but the key commans to switch to a tty dont seem to work an keyboard isn't lighting up.
[08:46] <Docteh> Bishop_: !botabuse
[08:46] <linux> rocket16, ya i show that thanks
[08:46] <Bishop_> !botabuse
[08:46] <complience> hello
[08:46] <rocket16> linux: No problem
[08:46] <rocket16> Hello complience
[08:46] <rocket16> !hi | complience
[08:46] <complience> im having major major major problems with ubuntu
[08:47] <sunson> maelaian: is that on a graphical login screen?
[08:47] <rocket16> complience: Sure, what is the problem?
[08:47] <hvralpha> maeleian: do you have a logitech keyboard?
[08:47] <complience> for some reason the kernal is having problems during the install
[08:47] <Docteh> rocket16: are you hyper?
[08:47] <maelaian> sunson: Yes. Used the alternate CD but its a default install otherwise.
[08:47] <complience> I think there might be a problem with the motherboard harddrive controller and ubuntu
[08:47] <karrar> what is the most feature rich irc client in the ubuntu repos ?
[08:47] <rocket16> complience: Did you try to compile a kernel yourself?
[08:47] <rocket16> Docteh: What?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Karrar: irssi is very flexible wheras others like xchat or pidgin. You are using an OS which emphasises user choice and customisability then hit an irc channel so some users can tell you what app to use...
[08:48] <complience> no ive been trying to use the normal ubuntu install process
[08:48] <easiertoread_> $ rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd
[08:48] <easiertoread_> Bad idea?
[08:48] <linux> rocket16, is that true that outside india most of them use linux
[08:48] <jpds> easiertoread_: Yes; unless you want to lose all your settings.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> easiertoread_: i'd make a folder and move the folders to it. If the result is acceptable then delete the backup
[08:48] <Mr_Queue> easiertoread_: YES
[08:49] <easiertoread_> Well I'm getting no better ideas tbh.
[08:49] <Mr_Queue> easiertoread_: use mv instead.
[08:49] <moetunes> easiertoread_: it will mean setting up apps again - if you have configured the panels it won't get them back tho
[08:49] <rocket16> linux: No, but from a local survey, in the neighouring countries like Bangladesh and Srilanka, Linux is growing in use. India too, has made great progress in Linux, with the advocacy of FSF
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> Easiertoread_: it gives you a rollback option
[08:49] <easiertoread_> gnome-panel has corrupted, basically.
[08:49] <Mr_Queue> easiertoread_: then if things work out rm them.
[08:49] <rocket16> complience: I think, reinstalling it might fix the problem.
[08:49] <karrar> thanks to all of u guys
[08:50] <sunson> rocket16: Linux 'peaked' in 2005, if linuxcounter.org is anything to go by ;)
[08:50] <BeWolF> bonjour le monde
[08:50] <rocket16> Docteh: I did not understand what you meant,
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> Karrar: try a few, see which you like
[08:50] <complience> pppffftt rocket16 i think you miss understand my problem
[08:50] <rocket16> !fr | BeWolF
[08:50] <complience> i can't install, the install fails because the kernal doesnt load
[08:50] <BeWolF> oups desolé rocket16
[08:50] <Mr_Queue> Can anyone here shed some light on when the fix for the Ubuntu One will be pushed out? I saw the bug report was closed as fixed.
[08:50] <Docteh> rocket16: you said hello to someone and did the !hi | person thing right after
[08:50] <sunson> rocket16: http://counter.li.org/ ;)
[08:51] <linux> rocket16, what about mac os i thing it will cover the market of windows in future
[08:52] <linux> rocket16, it has all support to unix as well as windows
[08:52] <rocket16> linux: May be, because Mac is built atop UNIX, and is secure. Also, they have several versions of Windows programmes which people like, for their own Systems.
[08:52] <rocket16> sunson: Thanks, :D
[08:52] <linux> i too like mac
[08:52] <maelaian> Can anyone assist me with a install problem on a fresh install of 10.04? After reboot I enter my user information, and after I hit enter, I see a purple background with lens flares and the cursor, but thats it. Mouse is responsive but the key commands to switch to a tty dont seem to work an keyboard isn't lighting up.
[08:53] <Mr_Queue> linux: rocket16: OT take it elsewhere guys.. this channel is blasted enough with pointless crap.
[08:53] <rocket16> Mr_Queue: Just a simple discussion, no harm. Anyway, I am out of it now.
[08:53] <karrar> actionparsnip , ya I have long time to test and try but I need start point except pidgin , so it will be irssi , thanks again action...
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Enjoy :)
[08:54] <Mr_Queue> maelaian: chance it's walking through a fsck from a bad time stamp?
[08:54] <hvralpha> maelaian : did you see the previous questions on your request
[08:54] <maelaian> I must have missed it in the offtopicness.
[08:54] <Mr_Queue> lol
[08:54] <rocket16> :D
[08:55] <hvralpha> Maelaian : check above and pls answer
[08:55] <maelaian> Mr_Queue:  I have no idea what its doing. Apparently nothing. I don't believe its running a fsck. I entered the user information hit login and now its just sitting their with
[08:55] <sidney> moetunes: the file checked ok
[08:55] <wojox> join #ubuntu-beginners
[08:55] <wojox> quit
[08:55] <Mr_Queue> wojox: you need a /
[08:55] <rileyp> how do i uninstall xubuntu
[08:55] <rileyp> so I am back to base system
[08:55] <maelaian> hvralpha: I dont see any question sorry, what was it?
[08:55] <moetunes> sidney: the iso or the disk you burnt?
[08:56] <Mr_Queue> rileyp: 4 out of 5 recommend explosives.
[08:56] <jetli68> i need a bit of help with login
[08:56] <jetli68> please
[08:56] <maelaian> No its a dell keyboard.
[08:56] <sidney> the iso
[08:56] <Mr_Queue> jetli68: name + password = success
[08:56] <maelaian> hvralpha: ps2 keyboard from a dell server.
[08:56] <moetunes> sidney: you need to check the disk in case it was a bad burn mate
[08:56] <rileyp> i installed with pen drive linux
[08:56] <hvralpha> maelaian: What type of keyboard do you use?
[08:56] <jetli68> no what it was yesterday i  set it to autologin
[08:57] <sidney> moetunes: ok
[08:57] <Mr_Queue> rileyp: as in a debootstrap?
[08:57] <rileyp> but i dont want a full blown xubuntu
[08:57] <jetli68> but now it does not load desktop and unlock my home folders
[08:57] <rileyp>  i only want a xfce4 desktop with nothing else
[08:57] <jetli68> i can load x from the command by type start x
[08:57] <wojox> Thank you
[08:57] <maelaian> hvralpha: It works fine for logging in, I have no reason to suspect the keyboard is at fault. Something just is hung or not starting.
[08:58] <Mr_Queue> wojox: n[
[08:58] <Mr_Queue> *p
[08:58] <jetli68> but does not load my  desktop just a new desktop and all  home folder is still locked
[08:58] <znupii> is there anyone who is CCNA certified ?
[08:59] <jetli68> tried to gor to login  options but it will not let me change it
[08:59] <rileyp> is it possble to remove all the xubuntu procs with a few command line apt-removes
[08:59] <Mr_Queue> znupii: OT move it along
[08:59] <hvralpha> maelaian: Suggest reboot, use recovery line in grub, run sudo dpkg --configure  -a and then reboot again
[08:59] <wildbat> !ics
[08:59] <Guest20309> how can i change the icon size in panels in ubuntu ( gnome ) ?
[08:59] <linux> i wanna add extra protocol in pidgin
[09:00] <maelaian> hvralpha: Its a fresh install 10.04, i used alternate this time, but it did the same thing when i updated from 9.10 to 10.04.
[09:00] <Mr_Queue> Guest20309: right click the panel and look at the properties.
[09:00] <complience> Hello, can someone help me with my ubuntu install - I think its failing due to a compatblity error with my motherboards harddrive controller
[09:00] <rileyp> is it possible?
[09:00] <alejandro> how do you read a txt file through the terminal?
[09:00] <znupii> Mr_Queue,  i think i don't understand you :p
[09:00] <rileyp> is it possble to remove all the xubuntu procs with a few command line apt-removes
[09:00] <Mr_Queue> complience: look at the alternate install CD
[09:00] <dougsko> linux: pidgin uses libpurple for its different protocols
[09:01] <Guest20309> Mr_Queue : the size is 23 at minimum ; i can change the system font size and I get the panel to 19px but the icons are still large
[09:01] <Mr_Queue> znupii: You are off topic.
[09:01] <plouffe> alejandro, more file.txt
[09:01] <complience> i have the alternative CD.. what should i do with it it? Mr_Queue
[09:01] <znupii> Mr_Queue, ok. sorry ;)
[09:01] <complience> the alternative CD does get to a later stage in the installation process, but still fails eventually
[09:01] <Mr_Queue> complience: Did you use the alt..CD for the initial install
[09:01] <Mr_Queue> >?
[09:02] <kamidi> comlience, cd clocks are kinda retro :) you can do that
[09:02] <hvralpha> maelaian: Just use recovery line, go to terminal with networking and run command I gave above. You can also run sudo apt-get update to see if you got all the packages.
[09:02] <maelaian> hvralpha: I already ran it and am rebooting, it executed fairly quickly.
[09:02] <alejandro> plouffe, funny it says no such file
[09:02] <rileyp> how do i close a window
[09:02] <complience> kamidi sorry what do you mean 'cd clocks'?
[09:03] <MajorThorn> hello everyone. How are we all tonight?
[09:03] <kamidi> comp, you know.. analog clock using cd as clocks background
[09:03] <rileyp> how do i close a window
[09:03] <Mr_Queue> Guest20309: I'm not sure I understand what exactly you're after. You're at the right places to change anything to do with the panel icons.
[09:03] <maelaian> hvralpha: That really f'd it up. Now all I get is a dark green screen.
[09:03] <Mr_Queue> rileyp: <alt>+<f4> usually does the trick for me.
[09:03] <Guest20309> Mr_Queue : i want the icons to be smaller ( 15px ) ;
[09:04] <MajorThorn> clicking the X normally works for me
[09:04] <moetunes> rileyp: therre isn't a simple method to undo installing xubuntu-desktop atm
[09:04] <plouffe> LOL
[09:04] <moetunes> !lol | plouffe
[09:04] <maelaian> hvralpha: Reboot fixed green screen. Still have the original problem though.
[09:04] <hvralpha> maelaian: Then it is a problem with network manager. The system will not load until it has a network connection. It is a bug. Just leave computer for 5 min until network manager times out and system will start
[09:05] <rileyp> i'm on a mac
[09:05] <plouffe> whatever
[09:05] <Mr_Queue> Guest20309: I think you should look at the res of your monitor to solve this one..
[09:05] <Mr_Queue> Guest20309: jack it way up..
[09:05] <Guest20309> Mr_Queue : ok..
[09:05] <maelaian> hvralpha: Alrite I'll leave it for 5.
[09:06] <hvralpha> Maelaian: Are you running kubuntu or ubuntu? This problem is with Kubuntu NM
[09:06] <MajorThorn> Ok everyone i just dropped in because the Gnome-xchat sent me here by default. But now i know where to go for some good help.
[09:06] <MajorThorn> i am out. Take care everyone.
[09:06] <complience> kamidi I have no idea what your talking about..  what do clocks have to do with my harddrive controller problem
[09:07] <moetunes> !hi | MajorThorn
[09:08] <MajorThorn> thanks moetunes :) see you all later
[09:09] <Talon_> how do people get their projects into the ubuntu repository?
[09:09] <jpds> Talon_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[09:09] <moetunes> !motu | talon
[09:09] <Mr_Queue> Talon_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/Mentor
[09:09] <moetunes> that wasn't the one  talon sorry
[09:11] <Mr_Queue> Talon_: Or write a cheque for $10k and you're in.
[09:11] <moetunes> heh
[09:11] <maelaian> hvralpha: Its been 5 minutes, still nothing.
[09:13] <optimusP> i am on lucid, my screen flickers after particular time interval
[09:13] <optimusP> like an electric impulse
[09:13] <optimusP> is that a problem?
[09:13] <TheMozart> hello
[09:13] <moetunes> optimusP: everyone will want that now
[09:14] <Curly_Q> OptimusP, yes it is a problem. Your scanning and refresh rate is not calibrated.
[09:14] <moetunes> optimusP: seriously it might be a h/ware issue with heat and the gpu
[09:14] <Curly_Q> Which means in short that the wrong voltages are causing that.
[09:14] <lightbricko1> When inserting a compact flash card it automounts. When I choose "safely remove drive" and after a while inserts it again, it doesn't automount. How can I mount it without rebooting? I use Karmic Koala.
[09:15] <complience> why can I only install ubuntu with the alternative CD, but the normal iso image fails - what does the alternative CD do differently?
[09:15] <optimusP> Curly_Q, wht is the solution
[09:15] <Curly_Q> OptimusP check the manufacturers settings for that monitor as well as check for the proper drivers. If not, you can destroy that monitor.
[09:15] <linux> i wanna add protocol in pidgin
[09:16] <moetunes> !alternate | complience
[09:16] <maelaian> Can anyone assist me with a install problem on a fresh install of 10.04? After reboot I enter my user information, and after I hit enter, I see a purple background with lens flares and the cursor, but thats it. Mouse is responsive but the key commands to switch to a tty dont seem to work an keyboard isn't lighting up. Let it sit for 10 minutes and same thing.
[09:16] <optimusP> destroy what?
[09:17] <moetunes> maelaian: did you md5 the disk you burnt?
[09:17] <elfranne> is it possible to boot a thin client from a wireless wpa2 network ?
[09:17] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, I had that happen to me once. It is your monitor resolution settings.
[09:17] <complience> ubottu although I sucessfully install using the alternative CD, the kernal doesn't get installed. I think there is a problem between my motherboards harddrive controller and ubuntu
[09:17] <__taco> hi, every body, Is Network-manager conflict with pppoeconf? when I start up pppoeconf and reboot, the icon of nm in notification disappear . what is matter with it?
[09:18] <maelaian> moetunes: Did it with a normal 10.04 cd wouldnt start the installer same thing. An alternate cd install works all the way, first reboot get this problem. Also did it with a 9.10 install upgraded to 10.04 after reboot.
[09:18] <linux> i wanna add new protocol in pedgin like yahoo,gtalk, i like to add nimbuzz how can i do that
[09:18] <moetunes> maelaian: is it old h/ware you're using?
[09:18] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, also I installed Kubuntu and the drivers were just right for that particular setup.
[09:19] <maelaian> moetunes: no. q6600 asus p35-ds3l mobo nvidia 9800 gtx
[09:19] <toolbear> hi.  say, i've got a problem.  the "jockey" hardware-drivers thing says i have nvidia installed and activated.  great.  but, when ubuntu starts it says that it can't find the nvidia module, and so i have to restart the x-server to get things going.  also, if i tried to enable compiz visual effects, it doesn't recognize any driver at all, and tries to download and install nvidia all over again, except it fails.  what can i possibly do???
[09:19] <ugliefrog_> what does osx have thats comparable to wine
[09:19] <Curly_Q> It is a hardware issue.
[09:20] <linux> i wanna add new protocol in pedgin like yahoo,gtalk, i like to add nimbuzz how can i do that
[09:20] <maelaian> Curly_Q: might be but it worked fine in 9.10 and previous ubuntus, never had a problem before. and xterm session works.
[09:20] <elfranne> is it possible to boot a thin client from a wireless wpa2 network ?
[09:20] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, you just figured it out. The latest install does not have the same drivers.
[09:21] <maelaian> Curly_Q: So what do I do.
[09:21] <shanx> hi all i have a problem?will u guys help
[09:21] <Curly_Q> Go back to what works and just upgrade that version of Ubuntu which will have the drivers you need.
[09:22] <maelaian> Curly_Q: The upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 resulted in the same problem on reboot.
[09:22] <Curly_Q> Try an apt-get to update the kernel.
[09:22] <frxstrem> is it possible to see if a directory is mounted on another filesystem (in this case with sshfs) and wait for it to unmount in a bash script?
[09:22] <Curly_Q> At least the known working drivers will still be on your system.
[09:23] <toolbear> hi. say, i've got a problem. the "jockey" hardware-drivers thing says i have nvidia installed and activated. great. but, when ubuntu starts it says that it can't find the nvidia module, and so i have to restart the x-server to get things going. also, if i tried to enable compiz visual effects, it doesn't recognize any driver at all, and tries to download and install nvidia all over again, except it fails. what can i possibly do???
[09:23] <shanx> I am trying to compile my c++ programs, they are giving weird errors
[09:24] <jense> Is it possible to boot lucid from an existing grub1 installation from a different partition?
[09:24] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, you may have to slave the drive and add manually the drivers.
[09:24] <maelaian> Curly_Q: Slave what drive?
[09:24] <Curly_Q> Slave the hard drive.
[09:25] <maelaian> Curly_Q: What drivers are possibly missing?
[09:25] <Talon_> shanx: what kind of errors?
[09:26] <Curly_Q> I cannot tell you Maelaian at this point. I was just giving you some practical solutions. Re-Install the old system that works and mirror check the files to see what files are there and what is not there in the new installation.
[09:26] <shanx> error: graphics.h: no such file or directory
[09:27] <frxstrem> is it possible to use a program to automatically check to see if a port is open, and then return either 0 or 1 to the operating system, depending on the status of that port?
[09:27] <frxstrem> and if so, how do I do it?
[09:27] <maelaian> Curly_Q: How do you "mirror check the files to see what files are there"
[09:27] <Talon_> shanx: is graphics.h your header file or part of some development package maybe you didn't install?
[09:27] <Curly_Q> Shanx, try    netstat -tuanlp
[09:28] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, there are lots of software out there that checks file side by side with other to see if there is anything different about the files. That is a Windows trick I use.
[09:28] <shanx> its my header file I used it like this #include<graphics.h>
[09:28] <rr99i> Hi everyone.  I'm new to using Ubuntu.  I'm using 10.04 and having no 3D acceleration for my Intel 945.  Anyone know what it could be?
[09:29] <transalp> hi, I'm looking for a program which can converse avi into amv files, anyone an idea?
[09:29] <maelaian> Curly_Q: Your asking me to do it on the scale of the entire file system, a task I'm not familiar with beyond two folders.
[09:29] <avg_guy> ok need help fixing a usb
[09:29] <brianlions> shanx, use gcc -I/dir/name
[09:30] <Talon_> shanx: is that the old school borland C++ graphics.h for like old DOS games n such?
[09:30] <maelaian> Curly_Q: Your basically telling me "somethings different" and giving me the crapshoot of diffing every file. Well I know somethings different, obviously it not working is caused by that difference from 9.10 to 10.04. Im looking for something more direct then comparing every file in the OS.
[09:30] <shanx> yes you r right  @Talon_
[09:31] <avg_guy> ok I think I deleted the partition on the thumb drive and didnt create a partition before i removed the darn thing ( duh i know) I think there is a way to fix it with the term but heck if i rem so i ask help me pls
[09:32] <capiscuas_> hi guys, got a tricky question
 so u r compiling a windows program on ubuntu?
[09:33] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, you can try this with your old setup and then compare it with your new setup:   lshw -html > system.html && xdg-open ./system.html
[09:33] <shanx> no not an windows program its a graphics testing program simply to generate some graphics patterns
[09:33] <capiscuas_> i have a python script that prints correct non-ascii characters in the terminal output, but if I redirect the output with '>file.txt' , then the file.txt contains wrong characteres for those that are not ascii
[09:33] <capiscuas_> is there a way to do unicode '>' redirection?
[09:34] <maelaian> Curly_Q: Ill give it a go after the upgrade finishes and i try hat.
[09:34] <Curly_Q> Also     lsmod will tell you all of the utilized modules.
[09:35] <Curly_Q> Maelaian, check this website out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=933054
[09:35] <Jordan_U> capiscuas_: Is there really a difference with your script between "script" and "script > file.txt && cat file.txt" ? (note that using cat is not the same as viewing the file in a text editor).
[09:36] <toolbear> hi. say, i've got a problem. the "jockey" hardware-drivers thing says i have nvidia installed and activated. great. but, when ubuntu starts it says that it can't find the nvidia module, and so i have to restart the x-server to get things going. also, if i tried to enable compiz visual effects, it doesn't recognize any driver at all, and tries to download and install nvidia all over again, except it fails. what can i possibly do???
[09:36] <brianlions> shanx, maybe you forget to add the directory containing 'graphics.h' into your project, or 'graphics.h' does not exists
[09:36] <Talon_> shanx: there is a project somewhere, its not in the repositories tho, a project called libgraph which takes all of graphics.h functions and wraps them around SDL so you can compile your windows programs that used "graphics.h" on linux systems as long as you have the required sdl-dev packages
[09:37] <JoshuaL> does ubuntu take advantage of quad core when booting?
[09:37] <transalp> someone an idea?
[09:37] <shanx> @ Talon_ what is the package name to be installed
[09:37] <transalp> ,
[09:38] <capiscuas_> Joradn__U , let me try
[09:39] <moetunes> transalp: you might want to check out handbrake for that - it is not in the repos afaik
[09:39] <Talon_> shanx: its not a package that can be installed via synaptic or ubuntu software center.. You'd have to download it and compile the library yourself.
[09:40] <shanx> can you please tell the site for this
[09:40] <Jordan_U> capiscuas_: File redirection takes the bits directly from stdout and puts them in a file, so it doesn't matter if it's ascii, unicode, or mp3 data. While there are reasons why a program might decide to output different bits if it detects that stdout is not going to a terminal I doubt that your program is doing this. My guess is that you are noticing differences between how the terminal is interpreting the characters and how you
[09:40] <capiscuas_> Jordan_U, exactly , the cat command ouptuts correctly the file
[09:40] <capiscuas_> but the text editor shows it wrongly
[09:40] <capiscuas_> how can I fix it ?
[09:41] <Talon_> shanx: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/libgraph/
[09:41] <Jordan_U> capiscuas_: Make sure that your text editor is set to interpret the file as unicode, and that your output does not contain any terminal controll characters.
[09:41] <transalp> moetunes: handbrake is not in synaptic
[09:41] <transalp> or in apt-get
[09:42] <capiscuas_> Jordan_U , in fact the final file is a html file that the browser reads wrongly
[09:42] <capiscuas_> i'm using the diff2html python script
[09:43] <foxmulder> Have you considered checking out the ppa for the latest handbrake build?
[09:44] <foxmulder> https://edge.launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots
[09:44] <notit> so how's usb3 and sata3 support coming?
[09:45] <foxmulder> USB 3.0 support is already in the latest kernels. I don't know about SATA 3 though.
[09:46] <moetunes> transalp: i didn't think it was - tried avidemux?
[09:46] <capiscuas_> Jordan_U , in fact i discovered that the file is correctly with unicode chars....
[09:46] <capiscuas_> is the browser that doesn't represent those non-ascii correctly
[09:47] <capiscuas_> and if I do 'show code' also it shows it wrongly
[09:47] <JoshuaL> anyone knows why increasing/decreasing the brightness of my screen doesnt show a notify anymore?
[09:47] <raymondjtoth> how i get exfat in ubuntu 10.04?
[09:47] <transalp> moetunes: no but i install it now, found avidemux in synaptic
[09:47] <raymondjtoth> !exfat
[09:48] <raymondjtoth> how i get exfat in ubuntu 10.04?
[09:48] <moetunes> transalp: not sure if it does avm tho
[09:50] <dsirijus> i know i can connect through ssh through nautilus, but why does it keeps asking me password when i have the key?
[09:50] <raymondjtoth> i cant see my exfat usb flash drive in ubuntu 10.04 what i do?
[09:50] <dsirijus> i've successfully connected through ssh command
[09:50] <alloosh1> ok this became disturbing, anybody know a fix? Notice:  session_start() [function.session-start]:  ps_files_cleanup_dir: opendir(/var/lib/php5) failed: Permission denied  (13) in
[09:51] <raymondjtoth> aqny one?
[09:51] <raymondjtoth> any one?
[09:51] <Eaddy504> Hi
[09:51] <Eaddy504> need help ubuntu
[09:52] <brianlions> alloosh1, may be you should change folder's group access on /var/lib/php5
[09:52] <alloosh1> brianlions: true, but isnt this a bug?
[09:52] <foxmulder> Actually, while I think of this, I'm getting this message at boot. "init:ureadahead error 6**" Or something similar to that. Anyone else getting that?
[09:53] <brianlions> /var/lib/php is owned by root, but apache might running as another user
[09:53] <raymondjtoth> i cant see my exfat usb flash drive in ubuntu 10.04 what i do?
[09:54] <Eaddy504> I'm New ubuntu and want to installed if on my Acer netbook AO752
[09:54] <Thraul> raymondjtoth, does the usb appear under the places menu?
[09:54] <capiscuas_> Jordan_U, i changed the charset of the html and worked fine, thks
[09:54] <brianlions> alloosh1,  chown root.apache /var/lib/php5; chmod g=rwx /var/lib/php5/session
[09:54] <foxmulder> Eaddy504: So go install it!
[09:54] <raymondjtoth> let me look Thraul
[09:54] <Eaddy504> yes just want to know about the drivers competability
[09:55] <raymondjtoth> Thraul u dinbt see it its formated in exfat
[09:55] <raymondjtoth> Thraul,  dont see it its formated in exfat
[09:56] <raymondjtoth> what now?
[09:57] <Bekmand> Hey. Could some of you help me with my old laptop? i've been using it for 1. and 2. year in school. But i bought a new one for 3. semester. But apparently i need my notes from 1. and 2. year. But i've forgotten the username and password. Anyone there can help me retrieve it? or is it impossible?
[09:57] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: in terminal do   sudo fdisk -l   and see if it shows in there
[09:57] <raymondjtoth> Thraul,  you here?
[09:57] <Eaddy504> I only have drivers for win 7 is it competible
[09:57] <Thraul> raymondjtoth, exfat = fatx (XBOX format?) ?
[09:58] <oCean_> !pass | Bekmand
[09:58] <raymondjtoth> moetunes,  how i see if itsthere\
[09:58] <Curly_Q> Bekmand there is a way to retrieve your data. You need to first slave your hard drive from the old laptop which will be able to see the files.
[09:59] <Bekmand> and then acces the harddrive from another computer?
[09:59] <Curly_Q> Bekmand with laptops, it is a bit more tricky though.
[09:59] <Curly_Q> Yes.
[09:59] <raymondjtoth> mole i see 2 things there moetunes
[09:59] <oCean_> Bekmand: just follow instructions would be lot easier
[09:59] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: if you have one internal hard disk it will be sdb
[10:00] <Bekmand> oCean: Its the login screen that i cant get through
[10:00] <raymondjtoth> i see sdb and a sda moetunes
[10:00] <Curly_Q> Forget the login screen.
[10:00] <oCean_> Bekmand: have you even looked at the url ubottu send you?
[10:00] <Bekmand> oCean: Yea
[10:00] <raymondjtoth> its usb flash drive formated in exfat
[10:00] <oCean_> Bekmand: so, nothing about login screen there...
[10:00] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: and you only have one internal hard disk?
[10:01] <reeniginEesreveR> can i set permissiosn on a directory such that every file created in it inherits its permissions rather than default umask?
[10:01] <Eaddy504> WAITING
[10:01] <raymondjtoth> no i have usb flash drive
[10:01] <raymondjtoth> also hooked up and hd on lapy
[10:01] <raymondjtoth> see my fat flash drive just not the exfat flash drive
[10:01] <raymondjtoth> moetunes,
[10:02] <Curly_Q> Bekmand there is a USB device that you can plug your laptop hard drive into that will slave it to your other laptop. When slaving with the USB device it must be Primary Master.
[10:02] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: then it is not a filesystem that is recognised - thraul asked - Thraul> raymondjtoth, exfat = fatx (XBOX format?) ?
[10:03] <raymondjtoth> moetunes,  not sure its fat64 for short its exfat
[10:04] <raymondjtoth> moetunes,  how i get this file for mat support?
[10:04] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: I know nothing about it - fat32 is the easiest to get support for afaik
[10:05] <raymondjtoth> moe for exfat what i do?
[10:05] <Thraul> raymondjtoth, it appears that exfat is still experimental on linux. Its the new FAT from microsoft suited especially for USB flash drives, introduced for embedded devices in Windows Embedded CE 6.0, in their desktop operating systems Windows Vista Service Pack 1 and Windows 7, and in their server operating system Windows Server 2008. ExFAT can be used where the NTFS file system is not a feasible solution, due to data structure
[10:05] <Thraul>  overhead, or where the file size or directory restrictions of previous versions of the FAT file system are unacceptable. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT)
[10:05] <dsirijus> anyone successfuly connected to server via ssh through nautilus? ever? :P
[10:06] <raymondjtoth> Thraul,  yes
[10:06] <iceroot> dsirijus: sure
[10:06] <wildbat> !bot
[10:06] <raymondjtoth> Thraul,  yes is there a way to try it out
[10:06] <dsirijus> iceroot, well, it keeps asking me for password, i don't have one, but can connect in command line
[10:07] <frxstrem> is it possible to hide all output from a command in the shell from being displayed?
[10:07] <Thraul> the ubuntuforms have a read only driver (deb file) you could try that and see if it works
[10:07] <Bekmand> oCean: thanks... couldn't find it at the start... but found out why ;) had to go into rescue mode. just like the guide told me to. -.-' but thanks for your help oCean and Curly :)
[10:08] <Curly_Q> Your welcome Bekmand.
[10:08] <oCean_> Bekmand: nice to hear you made it :)
[10:08] <Bekmand> :D
[10:08] <Curly_Q> Where are you from Bekmand?
[10:08] <Bekmand> Denmark
[10:09] <Curly_Q> I am from Massachusetts. U.S.A.
[10:09] <Thraul> Brisbane, Australia here :D
[10:09] <Bekmand> Hey, i went there last summer ^^
[10:09] <naveen519> FlexiStation application is closing by throwing this error "FlexiStation: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0."
[10:09] <Curly_Q> Nice to meet you.
[10:09] <naveen519> what might be the problem ?
[10:09] <Curly_Q> Greets Thraul.   ;)
[10:09] <reeniginEesreveR> I'm from Pakistan but im more interested in answer to my query :P
[10:09] <naveen519> can you please help me
[10:09] <raymondjtoth> Thraul,  you still here
[10:09] <Thraul> yeah
[10:10] <raymondjtoth> what i do now
[10:10] <raymondjtoth> to get it in
[10:10] <reeniginEesreveR> naveen519, where are you form?
[10:10] <naveen519> India
[10:10] <Eaddy504> do I need drivers for my Acer net book AO752 I only have Win-7’s Drivers
[10:11] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: I just had a quick google and it seems there isn't any support yet - you're all outta luck on that afasik
[10:11] <naveen519> why the application is crashing by this error :"FlexiStation: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
[10:11] <Curly_Q> Bekmand I teach Network classes and A+ for certification here.
[10:12] <oCean_> Curly_Q: this is technical support channel! For social chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <Curly_Q> oCean, true. I have been helping lots of folks here for a long time. A little bit of chat hurts noone.
[10:12] <madjoe> how big is the installed size of vnc4server on Karmic? I tried to install it and it returned an error no memory left... I wonder it might be RAM...
[10:12] <josvuk> curly_q: what's this local IP address, remote IP address, primary DNS address and secondary DNS address?
[10:12] <oCean_> Curly_Q: it's not about hurting, it's not allowed
[10:13] <reeniginEesreveR> hi naveen, I'm from Pakistan. We got Sania! D:
[10:13] <Curly_Q> I will take that under advisement.
[10:13] <naveen519> <reeniginEesreveR: Congrats :)
[10:13] <guido> come faccio ad andare su ubuntu.it
[10:13] <moetunes> !it
[10:14] <ouyes> reeniginEesreveR, naveen519 say hello to each other, we come here for help and helping
[10:14] <Curly_Q> Josvuk, what are you asking?
[10:14] <naveen519> Hii all
[10:14] <iceroot> dsirijus: usse a password or use a key but dont use ssh withour a password!!
[10:15] <oCean_> reeniginEesreveR: you have to work with umask, there is no way to inherit permissions
[10:15] <reeniginEesreveR> oCean_,  can i set umask for a directory? :P
[10:16] <josvuk> curly_q: pppd reprots me this.
[10:16] <oCean_> reeniginEesreveR: umask is for processes. (such as a user's shell)
[10:16] <Curly_Q> Dsirijus, even with a password, you still need permissions.
[10:16] <raymondjtoth> moetunes,  what should i format my flash drive in?
[10:17] <moetunes> raymondjtoth: fat32 is the normal one
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> moe can i do ex4
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> or non microsoft file formate
[10:17] <athlion> raymondjtoth: yes you can but it would not be practical
[10:18] <raymondjtoth> ath i only useing one on linux
[10:18] <raymondjtoth> i want to go open source
[10:18] <athlion> raymondjtoth: if you want to be able to read/write to your usb from anything, go with fat32.
[10:18] <tuhin> hi
[10:18] <athlion> raymondjtoth: on the other hand, if you just use it at home on your linux, ext4 will do just fine :-)
[10:19] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  i want open source formate i got 2 flash drive onew i want open formate
[10:19] <engin_> Hello. Ubuntu Lucid, here. Any user can mount Windows partitions from places but as a user when I try to mount it from terminal, it says only root can mount partitions. What is the command to mount it as a non-root user to mount as done via GUI places?
[10:19] <tuhin> how can i hack
[10:19] <dsirijus> Curly_Q, iceroot, that's not up to me to decide, i just need to login so i can do stuff through gui, is all
[10:19] <athlion> raymondjtoth: ok then, go with ext4/ext3/whatever you want, but keep in mind that you won't be able to read the usb flash from anywhere else
[10:19] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  i want open sourve formate
[10:20] <raymondjtoth> understand
[10:20] <athlion> raymondjtoth: ext4 is probably a good idea
[10:20] <Curly_Q> Dsirijus, are you trying to log into Linux from a Windows box?
[10:20] <dsirijus> Curly_Q, no, from ubuntu
[10:20] <Eaddy504> Hi
[10:20] <dsirijus> Curly_Q, in win all works fine through putty and winscp
[10:20] <moetunes> engin_: you need to use sudo with the mount command
[10:21] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  how i delete a file with non root or none owner permition
[10:21] <Curly_Q> I use SSH by Tectia. It is expensive but it works great. Putty is good too.
[10:21] <raymondjtoth> will njot alow me its locked
[10:21] <naveen519>  FlexiStation application is closing by throwing this error "FlexiStation: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0."
[10:21] <foxmulder> Why put ext 3/4 on usb? They don't require journaling so why bother and not just stick with fat32.
[10:22] <athlion> raymondjtoth:  you mean from command line or from nautilus?
[10:22] <dsirijus> Curly_Q, well, it seems like a nice idea that Connect to server command would work on Ubuntu, but i guess it doesn't
[10:22] <dsirijus> :P
[10:22] <raymondjtoth> i see a locked file cant delete it how i get ride of it
[10:22] <engin_> moetunes: So what is the terminal equivalent of clicking mount win partition via GUI "places"? Any user can mount from there without asked for sudoer pass.
[10:22] <Curly_Q> Dsirijus, you still need permissions to cut, copy and paste to the server even with SSH.
[10:23] <athlion> raymondjtoth: there are two ways, one is to open a terminal, cd in the directory you are and type sydo rm <file>
[10:23] <moetunes> engin_: sodo mount -v /dev/sd?? /place/to/mount
[10:23] <dsirijus> Curly_Q, it's root account access
[10:23] <athlion> raymondjtoth: the other is to open a terminal, and type sudo nautilus and go delete it from the new window that appears (which has root access)
[10:23] <Curly_Q> Even with ROOT access, you still need to give yourself permission.
[10:24] <athlion> Curly_Q: If I'm not mistaken, with root you do not
[10:24] <foxmulder> athlion: Not recommend sudo through Nautilus.
[10:25] <foxmulder> It's dodgy.
[10:25] <Curly_Q> Not true.
[10:25] <engin_> moetunes: I know the sudo way but what I want to learn is: Any user can mount them by clicking via "places". It should run a command at the background noy asking for root pass. So what is that command?
[10:25] <Curly_Q> Giving yourself permission in root is a security factor.
[10:26] <foxmulder> engin_: Can it be done via command?
[10:26] <athlion> Curly_Q: root:macbook [/tmp]> touch a && chmod 0 a && rm a && ls -l a
[10:26] <athlion> ls: a: No such file or directory
[10:26] <raymondjtoth> athlion,   dont work
[10:26] <theadmin> What was that command to measure disk usage? dh?
[10:26] <foxmulder> du
[10:26] <athlion> theadmin: du
[10:27] <theadmin> athlion: Well, I just wanna see how much space is taken/free on all partitions
[10:27] <oCean_> theadmin: and per-filesystem usage use "df"
[10:27] <athlion> theadmin: df
[10:27] <athlion> df -h
[10:27] <engin_> foxmulder: when we click win partion under places menu we should be running a command appearently. I want to learn it.
[10:27] <theadmin> uh. It doesn't show unmounted devices :/
[10:27] <athlion> for human readable :-)
[10:27] <moetunes> engin_: it is prob listed in /etc/fstab with perms for all users
[10:27] <giwrgos> hi guys
[10:27] <athlion> theadmin: of course it doesn't
[10:28] <freestyler> !de
[10:28] <engin_> moetunes: Thank you.
[10:28] <foxmulder> theadmin: Mount first and then df.
[10:28] <nixpix> would someone please take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1488092
[10:28] <giwrgos> can i open rar files in ubuntu?
[10:28] <maddhat> do i need to enable snmp on my ubuntu machines in order to get them to respond to snmpd?
[10:28] <foxmulder> giwrgos: Yes you can.
[10:28] <giwrgos> how?
[10:28] <athlion> giwrgos: ναι ρε γιώργο, φυσικά μπορείς!!!
[10:28] <foxmulder> giwrgos: sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:29] <giwrgos> athlion: pos?
[10:29] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  what i do now will not remove
[10:29] <athlion> raymondjtoth: ok
[10:30] <giwrgos> athlion ti katebazo...
[10:30] <theadmin> What is a good program to create a full disk image file? With MBR and all
[10:30] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  what i do now
[10:30] <raymondjtoth> im on ubuntu 10.04
[10:30] <athlion> raymondjtoth: describe what you did and did not work
[10:30] <raymondjtoth> i did  sydo rm
[10:30] <giwrgos> athlion: katebazo to WinRar?
[10:31] <athlion> giwrgos: grapse afto pou sou eipe: apt-get install unrar
[10:31] <Curly_Q> TheAdmin, try   Acronis  True Image. It works great.
[10:31] <athlion> i apo to synaptic vale to unrar
[10:31] <theadmin> Curly_Q: free?
[10:31] <Curly_Q> No.
[10:31] <giwrgos> ok
[10:31] <theadmin> Curly_Q: ...:/
[10:31] <Curly_Q> Not free unless you get by bit torrent.
[10:31] <theadmin> That's not my style, I'm a free software user :/
[10:32] <Curly_Q> Try GNU opensource.
[10:32] <theadmin> Curly_Q: Well yeah, that's what I want to find, a free, prefferably open-source program for these purposes
[10:32] <athlion> giwrgos: meta, deksi klik sto rar kai extract...
[10:32] <Curly_Q> Let me check something here.
[10:32] <oCean_> athlion: english only
[10:32] <administrator_> salut
[10:32] <athlion> oCean_: sorry
[10:33] <theadmin> administrator_: Hello.
[10:33] <administrator_> ca va
[10:33] <Tonus> !fr | administrator_
[10:33] <theadmin> administrator_: English channel.
[10:33] <engin_> Hello, Ubuntu Lucid, here. Can I learn (see from terminal lets say) what command is being run when I click on something via GUI?
[10:33] <athlion> raymondjtoth: go in your normal nautilus in the directory where the fil you want to delete is
[10:33] <administrator_> ok
[10:33] <ManDay> is there any way to get rid of all dicitionaries spellcheckers and so forth? I think I by now have removed at least four spellcheckers from aptitude and they are still coming up all over the place - now someone say again that ubuntu doesnt shovel crap down your neck....
[10:33] <theadmin> engin_: Welp, that is mainly done by checking file properties
[10:33] <raymondjtoth> athlion,  how i do this