[12:10] <croSmiley> Megaqwerty: ohh :)
[12:10] <blix_> thanks UrbenLegend
[12:10] <steveatlocalhost> kanhua: ok, remove the -gl and -opengl and change 70 to 90 and give that a shot
[12:10] <MrObvious> mike-a: You could.
[12:10] <MrObvious> Hydrate: You there?
[12:10] <kanuha> steveatlocalhost, ok
[12:10] <PiRoMaNo> How do I run Recovery?
[12:10] <mike-a> MrObvious, alright wish me luck, see you in a bit
[12:10] <UrbenLegend> blix_: np
[12:10] <MrObvious> mike-a: Maybe lol. I don't believe in luck but have fun.
[12:10] <croSmiley> Megaqwerty: thanks a lot, this was so stupif :D
[12:10] <MeRodent> PiRoMaNo, add the notification area to your panel
[12:10] <Megaqwerty> croSmiley: you're welcome
[12:11] <Hydrate> MrObvious yes
[12:11] <PiRoMaNo> MeRodant: how?
[12:11] <MrObvious> Hydrate: There you are. Sorry I lost track of you. What stage are you at? Also, why are you needing gnome.h?
[12:11] <MeRodent> PiRoMaNo, right click on the panel. Choose add and pick it from the window.
[12:11] <croSmiley> Megaqwerty: ahh, multisync works, this is my day!
[12:11] <revilodraw> which is better, virtualbox or vmware server?
[12:11] <Megaqwerty> croSmiley: Congratulations! Glad I could help.
[12:12] <PiRoMaNo> MeRodant: Not like that. I mean I have firefox running. But it's not on the Bar, so I can click between x-chat and firefox
[12:12] <Hydrate> MrObvious I am learning C and unfortunately cannot compile any gnome applicationsd without it, ive just performed and apt-update and its done alot mroe than it has before i reset my sources list
[12:12] <MrObvious> revilodraw: There's also qemu. I've never used Virtualbox but I've used VMware and qEMU and I can't say which one is better. I'd say VMware is better.
[12:12] <revilodraw> piromano: also add 'window list' to the panel
[12:12] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Ahh.
[12:13] <PiRoMaNo> How do I do that revilodraw?
[12:13] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Okay did you rebuild your sources then? If so what happens with sudo apt-get install apt-file ? Does it install successfully or give the same error as before.
[12:13] <MrObvious> ?
[12:13] <blix_> My aim: Ubuntu, XP, Vista
[12:13] <revilodraw> MrObvious: lol thanks...
[12:13] <MrObvious> revilodraw: YW.
[12:13] <blix_> should I use GRUB to bootload these?
[12:13] <dumbass> can um, like, someone help me?  my box woe not turn on
[12:13] <blix_> do people still use LILO I thnk it's called?
[12:14] <revilodraw> PiRoMaNo: right click on the panel, and click on add to panel, then look for 'window list'and double click that shizz
[12:14] <Hydrate> MrObvious: apt-file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36736/
[12:14] <dumbass> blix_: competent people do, try slackware
[12:14] <MrObvious> blix_: Grub. And it should boot fine.
[12:14] <blix_> slackware?
[12:14] <blix_> I don't really want to install another Linux dis
[12:14] <dumbass> blix_: yeah, it's a little nicer and doesn't break all the time
[12:14] <PiRoMaNo> I did revilodraw nothing happened
[12:14] <Tiradin> blah... Anyone have any suggestions for installing Ubuntu on a IBM Thinkpad T32?
[12:14] <blix_> lol
[12:14] <blix_> so what u doing in Ubuntu?
[12:14] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Ok good news. Do a sudo apt-file update and it'll take a few minutes. Let me know when it's done.
[12:15] <Pici> fragment: http://www.thinkwiki.org
[12:15] <dumbass> blix_: i need um, like, help because my box woe not turn on
[12:15] <Tiradin> [-] Pici[-]  thanks
[12:15] <Tiradin> sorry abou tthe colours.
[12:15] <dumbass> oh, btw, blix_ you can find out all about slackware in ##slackware
[12:15] <Tiradin> bout*
[12:15] <revilodraw> PiRoMaNo: did you also add 'window selector'? and if so, what problem are you having which u cant fix?
[12:15] <MrObvious> dumbass: Why are you suggesting slack here? Also I don't like your nick personally.
[12:15] <blix_> yeah I've been referred to slackware
[12:15] <blix_> might add a partition for it
[12:15] <dumbass> MrObvious: I'm sorry that you're oversensitive.  I hope you can overcome your differences.
[12:16] <blix_> unpacking sun
[12:16] <blix_> :-)
[12:16] <Tiradin> T23, actually...
[12:16] <MrObvious> blix_: You can try Slack, but Ubuntu has support for booting XP and Vista I believe through Grub. It should work out of the box.
[12:16] <dfletcher> Hydrate, maybe I've missed something here, but can't you get gnome.h with: sudo apt-get install libgnome-dev libgnomeui-dev  ?
[12:16] <revilodraw> dumbass: no offence, but ur nick isnt a great incentive to follow ur advicd
[12:16] <blix_> yeah, I've yet to try Grub
[12:16] <dumbass> MrObvious: actually, vista boots fine from lilo on slackware install
[12:16] <Pici> Tiradin: This channel is +c, the rest of us dont see any colors/formatting :)
[12:16] <Hydrate> MrObvious: no, ive installed and reinstalled those pacakges yet the file still isnt on my computer
[12:16] <PiRoMaNo_> revilodraw: Still nothing...I had ubuntu installed before and It didn't do that. ANd It's still not working
[12:16] <blix_> will Grub let you mess around with the partitions on your HDD?
[12:16] <mike-a> MrObvious, well im in single user now, didn't even have to configure anything just got the right IP right away
[12:17] <dumbass> blix_: no, but lilo will
[12:17] <MrObvious> dumbass: Yes but is this ##slackware? No. It's #ubuntu so you should give out Ubuntu advise or stay out.
[12:17] <blix_> does Lilo have more advance capability?
[12:17] <dumbass> MrObvious: oh, sorry, I was fixing his problem with ubuntu.  Please stop harrassing me.
[12:17] <MrObvious> blix_: Yes Grub will. Ignore him please. Grub is more advanced than Lilo AFAIK.
[12:17] <dumbass> blix_: yeah, it's also easier to change the look and feel of it
[12:17] <MrObvious> mike-a: Cool.
[12:18] <blix_> mmm...ok Grub it is
[12:18] <ubuntu_> ubuntu wont load
[12:18] <dumbass> blix_: lilo is also more stable
[12:18] <Hydrate> MrObvious apt-file update is done
[12:18] <blix_> lol
[12:18] <ubuntu_> it freezes as its loading
[12:18] <blix_> I'm going to try Grub first
[12:18] <MrObvious> blix_: But Grub is designed to have more features but Lilo is for ease of use.
[12:18] <MrObvious> blix_: And Ubuntu can be used with Lilo but I've never done it.
[12:18] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Okay apt-file search gnome.h
[12:18] <dumbass> MrObvious: not true....there's nothing grub can do that lilo can't do with a little less work
[12:18] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Which package is it in?
[12:18] <blix_> mmm, appears to be advantages and disadvantages for both
[12:19] <blix_> I'll try Grub first
[12:19] <Hydrate> ubuntu_ it does that alot for me too, at first i thought it was my pc but after installing it on 3 of them im assuming its a bug in ubuntu
[12:19] <MrObvious> blix_: Yeah as grub is native to Ubuntu anyway. It should work. If you have problems poeple here or on the forums are more than willing to help.
[12:19] <marsje> what happened to the gutsy tribe-6 release?
[12:19] <Tiradin> Will Ubuntu run quite smoothly on this laptop? (Thinkpad T23)
[12:19] <ubuntu_> well the thing is, it used to work, but then i tried dualbooting windows
[12:19] <dumbass> blix_: as it's default with ubuntu, that's a good call, but honestly, if you get more into linux, you'll want slackware, anyway
[12:19] <ubuntu_> and now niether will load
[12:19] <PiRoMaNo> How do I run a recovery?
[12:19] <MrObvious> Tiradin: You might look on the forums for Thinkpad T23 (http://ubuntuforums.org)
[12:19] <blix_> so how does one install and use Grub...I want to eventually have Ubuntu, XP, Vista on boot
[12:20] <dumbass> Tiradin: you might have to use slackware-- you can see which works better by using a slax cd and comparing it to an ubuntu livecd
[12:20] <Tiradin> [-] MrObvious[-]  Thank you
[12:20] <MrObvious> Tiradin: YW.
[12:20] <bzaks> Can anyone help me figure out what's going on? My computer keeps freezing on on the "libc6-udeb". I checked the bug reports, and there's nothing really solid on it... but I've tried with 3 different CD drives. (including one that has been used to install ubuntu on this very machine)
[12:20] <Hydrate> MrObvious http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36738/\
[12:20] <MrObvious> dumbass: Would you stop please. DOn't make me involve the chanops.
[12:20] <blix_> I would ideally like to have different partitions formats
[12:20] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:20] <dumbass> MrObvious: I don't much appreciate being called that, and please leave me alone while I correct the ubuntu problems as they arise.
[12:20] <blix_> so XP, Vista - NTFS, and Ubuntu - ext3
[12:20] <Hydrate> ubuntu_ the only way i have found to fix this problem is to disconnject my wireless keyboard as it boots
[12:21] <bzaks> blix_ yes
[12:21] <blix_> right now my whole hard drive is on ext3...which is really frustrating trying to install XP and Vista
[12:21] <dumbass> blix_: in lilo you type 'liloconfig' and it automatically sets it all up for you
[12:21] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Try sudo apt-get install libgnome-dev libgnome2-dev libgnomeui-dev
[12:21] <blix_> 'automatically' - thats got to be too good to be true
[12:21] <dumbass> blix_: you'll want to install xp and vista _first_ or use a livecd after the installs
[12:21] <MrObvious> PriceChild: dumbass is trying to get people to use slackware instead of offering suggesitons for Ubuntu.
[12:21] <MrObvious> *suggestions
[12:21] <dumbass> blix_: i do it all the time
[12:22] <PiRoMaNo> Does anyone know if mIRC works with WINE?
[12:22] <dumbass> PiRoMaNo: it does
[12:22] <Hydrate> MrObvious http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36739/
[12:22] <MrObvious> PiRoMaNo: I used it. Yes. But xchat is better IMO.
[12:22] <aztec13> don't bite my head off :) but i saw you gentlemen were having trouble with a doual boot.I wanted to share this reference I think is possibly the best avail. it could probably help you guys out http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[12:22] <bzaks> PiroMano: why would you want to use mIRC over wine?
[12:22] <Tiradin> PrioMano: Yes it does, and I agree with MrObvious.
[12:22] <MrObvious> PiRoMaNo: Just make sure you don't install xchat-gnome.
[12:22] <dumbass> aztec13: no need for a book
[12:22] <MrObvious> PiRoMaNo: You'll need to change your sources around to get it. Try !easysource
[12:22] <aztec13> not a book
[12:22] <MrObvious> !easysource | PiRoMaNo
[12:22] <ubotu> PiRoMaNo: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:22] <PiRoMaNo> Because all my IRC scripting is in mIRC...and I dislike x-chat.
[12:22] <z0rz> If I were to hand make the partitions for Ubuntu... What would I need .. Just an ext3 and a swap partition?
[12:22] <blix_> dumbass, well whatever it takes to install Vista, XP and Ubuntu on one HDD
[12:23] <dumbass> MrObvious: that's not true at all-- please don't give bad advice.  mIRC runs with a default install of wine.
[12:23] <blix_> I've been advised it's best to install Vista first
[12:23] <bzaks> z0rz: pretty much
[12:23] <dumbass> blix_: it is, it likes to take over the bootloader
[12:23] <blix_> and then your choice of Linux distro first
[12:23] <MrObvious> dumbass: I said it works. Read what I said and stop flaming me.
[12:23] <PriceChild> blix_, install ubuntu last so you don't have to worry about the bootloader
[12:23] <PriceChild> MrObvious, dumbass please lets stay on topic, ignore each other if need be
[12:24] <nerdboy1024> can anyone tell me how to control another ubuntu computer from another location
[12:24] <z0rz> bzaks: what else would I n\weed to do specifically?
[12:24] <MeRodent> blix_, if you want Vista, XP and ubuntu. Install XP first then VIsta then ubuntu.
[12:24] <PriceChild> nerdboy1024, ssh?
[12:24] <blix_> PriceChild ... that is the intention
[12:24] <Drule> You guys look like you could do with a good joke.
[12:24] <Drule> A priest and a rabbi walk into a bar
[12:24] <Drule> except there is no rabbi
[12:24] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Drule
[12:24] <ubotu> Drule: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:24] <Drule> fine.
[12:24] <jplove71> lol Drule
[12:24] <bzaks> z0rz: go to #tempchat
[12:24] <nerdboy1024> price, no i need to control gnobe
[12:24] <Drule> Be that way.
[12:24] <MrObvious> nerdboy1024: Do you want command line or through like VNC?
[12:24] <blix_> MeRodent ..ok..well my laptop came with VIsta
[12:24] <blix_> so I'm waiting for the recovery discs to arrive
[12:24] <nerdboy1024> vnc
[12:24] <dumbass> blix_: or you could install lilo with a livecd and avoid the whole mess of bootloaders altogether, just remembr which dev/hd# has your linux kernel on it and which partitions have what os's installed-- best to write it out on paper while you're doing it
[12:24] <blix_> so Vista goes on first
[12:24] <MrObvious> !vnc | nerdboy1024
[12:25] <ubotu> nerdboy1024: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:25] <MeRodent> blix_, It's just that VIsta will dual boot with XP. You may have problems getting it to work the other way around.
[12:25] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Did you get those installed?
[12:25] <PiRoMaNo> MrObvious: Does AIM work with wine? And can you link me to a site that has a list of items that works with wine?
[12:25] <blix_> dumbass..thanks for the advice, I will need to carefully plan this out
[12:25] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Did it work?
[12:25] <blix_> I messed my Vista partition before
[12:25] <robotpoke> hello, how do i determine the amount of ram on my computer in kubuntu?
[12:25] <evri2> which repo do you suggest for compiz-fusion?
[12:25] <blix_> and even managed to remove the HDD recovery portion
[12:25] <neol> can someone tell me how to open an port in iptables. ???
[12:25] <MrObvious> PiRoMaNo: No clue. Try winehq (might be winehq.com but you may have to google the link).
[12:25] <PriceChild> !effects | evri2
[12:25] <dumbass> blix_: depends on which bootloader you use, honestly-- if you messup the order you can still fix it.  I wouldn't worry about your vista partition--- if I understand right it's ntfs which you can prepare with fdisk
[12:25] <ubotu> evri2: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:25] <nerdboy1024> MrObvious, any particular VNC u recommend?
[12:26] <Hydrate>  MrObvious yes i did and no it has not worked, i am still missing the file
[12:26] <PriceChild> neol, what are you really trying to do?
[12:26] <Inquisitoramous> where can I get the 64bit version of Fusion-icon?
[12:26] <Esteth> PiRoMaNo: Use GAIM / Pidgin for IMing, which is native. winhq's appdb tells you about compatibility
[12:26] <PriceChild> !effects | Inquisitoramous
[12:26] <astro76> robotpoke, not sure about kde but in any linux terminal type: free -m
[12:26] <PiRoMaNo> I don't like Gaim >.>
[12:26] <MrObvious> PiRoMaNo: But there are ways to get on AIM's service like pidgin.
[12:26] <ubotu> Inquisitoramous: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:26] <blix_> GAIM is bit simple, but works
[12:26] <neol> PriceChild: try to get an port forwarded sign in utorrent which is running in wine.
[12:26] <dumbass> blix_: try pidgin
[12:26] <MrObvious> nerdboy1024: For a client on Winblows Unreal. For a Linux server Tight.
[12:26] <aztec13> qik Q I have a WAV of a bell on my desktop.Xfce mail notifier has 2 spots for entering commands ,1 if you clk the icon and 1 to ap something with a positive mail in box.What are the commands to set it so the bell trips on each of these events?
[12:26] <robotpoke> astro76: perfect, thanks!
[12:26] <PriceChild> MrObvious, please suggest gaim.
[12:26] <Esteth> blix_: I'm using pidgin, and i don't see whats so simple about it really :S
[12:26] <blix_> lol
[12:27] <MrObvious> PriceChild: Gaim was replaced by pidgin. So I suggest pidgin :p.
[12:27] <blix_> pdigin..another bootloader program?
[12:27] <MrObvious> PriceChild: Actualy it was renamed.
[12:27] <PriceChild> MrObvious, pidgin is not in ubuntu. So please suggest gaim as it works perfectly.
[12:27] <lotug> Need detailed instructions on setting up Virtual Hosting on Apache2, Ubuntu 7.04, please.
[12:27] <dumbass> pidgin is the new gaim-- it's by the same people-- gaim is an abandoned project
[12:27] <Esteth> blix_: pidgin is the new gaim, after AOL hassled them about the name.
[12:27] <MrObvious> PriceChild: Not only that but the guy doesn't like gaim. :\ But okay.
[12:27] <neol> ??
[12:27] <blix_> ah right
[12:27] <PriceChild> !lamp | lotug
[12:27] <ubotu> lotug: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:27] <bzaks> PriceChild: why is pidgin not in ubuntu?
[12:27] <PriceChild> bzaks, it will be in ubuntu 7.10 in october
[12:27] <blix_> k
[12:27] <MrObvious> !info pidgin
[12:28] <blix_> !info pidgin
[12:28] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:28] <t5_4a> meh
[12:28] <bzaks> YAY GUTSY GIBBON!
[12:28] <blix_> oops
[12:28] <PriceChild> bzaks, ubuntu only gets critical security and bug fixes after release to ensure stability
[12:28] <t5_4a> pidgin sounds dumb
[12:28] <bzaks> I'm so pumped
[12:28] <dumbass> though, if the process here is suggesting inferior, obsolete software, I would suggest gaim for an _ubuntu_ setup
[12:28] <t5_4a> they should have kept the name :/
[12:28] <blix_> it won't catch on
[12:28] <chief> t5_4a: blame AOL
[12:28] <Esteth> bzaks: Because 7.04 wasn't realeased in time. pidgin runs fine under 7.04 though
[12:28] <neol> can someone help me on how to unblock a port. ?
[12:28] <dumbass> blix_: it already has
[12:28] <PriceChild> dumbass, it is not obselete, it works perfectly
[12:28] <t5_4a> oh was there a lawsuit or something?
[12:28] <dumbass> PriceChild: ubuntu or gaim?
[12:28] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:28] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:29] <MrObvious> It's possible to set up pidgin via the installer on pidgin's site for Linux just fine. But we have been requested to say gaim I guess.
[12:29] <meoblast001> hello... i ussually dont try to rush people in here, but i have little time and i need to know something... i need an MTP or MSC driver for my MP3 player.... where can i get this?
[12:29] <neol> MrObvious: can u help me, cause pelo could not come up with a solution.
[12:30] <ochosi> houston, we have a problem. i just wanted to put the nvidia module into my kernel, ran the "sudo m-a update" and then the "prepare" commands and when i wanted to enter "m-a auto-install nvidia" i forgot the nvidia and now the module-assistant keeps on putting ALL the packages he can into my kernel... is there any way of undoing this and removing all the useless modules from my kernel?
[12:30] <lotug> ubotu: thanks, I've already installed, MySQL, PHP, Apache2 and it works with default install.  But after following FAQ's on how to setup Virtual Hosting, it crashes.  I am not sure what I am missing.  So am looking for something that guides you step by step.
[12:30] <dumbass> MrObvious: well that makes perfect sense.  Let's suggest more buggy, older software for a distro that prides itself on using the newest versions of software regardless of regressions in the functionality of that software
[12:30] <PriceChild> lotug, ubotu is a bot
[12:30] <MrObvious> neol: No. I g2g sorry.
[12:30] <dumbass> MrObvious: why not just build gaim/pidgin from source?
[12:31] <MrObvious> dumbass: PriceChild is an op and has requested we suggest gaim.  I agree in your case but that's beyond my control.
[12:31] <neol> MrObvious: ok,, then i'm also going. :(, looks like no one can help.
[12:31] <dumbass> installers aren't to be trusted, anyway until a universal package manager is fgond to be stable
[12:31] <bzaks> I use pidgin, just because gaim would crash
[12:31] <MrObvious> neol: Just ask generally in the channel.
[12:31] <PriceChild> dumbass, MrObvious gaim is in ubuntu and _is supported_ by ubuntu
[12:31] <Hydrate> MrObvious any ideas?
[12:31] <PriceChild> dumbass, MrObvious please don't suggest pidgin as its simply not needed and a hell of effort
[12:31] <sidu> sudo apt-get install php5-gd  -- successful in other pc -- but gives me an error in this pc -- any idea ?
[12:32] <bzaks> GD is great! Images on the fly!
[12:32] <MrObvious> Hydrate: I need to go. :( No clue. You might have to try google.
[12:32] <neol> how do i unblock or use some firewalls like firestarter or lokkit to get a forwarded port for my utorrent. ???? :)
[12:32] <MrObvious> PriceChild: I wasn't.
[12:32] <dumbass> PriceChild: it's gaim with a different name-- it's by the same people; it's simply a newer version of the same program.  gaim = pidgin.
[12:32] <PriceChild> MrObvious, never said you were
[12:32] <PriceChild> dumbass, please re-read what I said.
[12:32] <sidu> can not install package
[12:32] <osxdude|laptop> I am trying to use a P2K program called moto4lin. It seems to not be connecting. The phone has been connected to P2K before on a Windows computer
[12:32] <bzaks> pidgin = gaim - some fun plugins
[12:32] <dumbass> PriceChild: I did and respoded articulately.
[12:32] <Flannel> neol: You need to do the forwarding at your router, not your computer
[12:32] <Hydrate> MrObvious alright thanbk you, but i came here because i gave up with google, heh, im sure il find a way
[12:32] <osxdude|laptop> How can I fix this?
[12:32] <Phlosten> howdy all
[12:32] <scipio> neol, that has nothing to do with the default firewall. you have to fiddle with your router
[12:32] <MrObvious> Hydrate: Sorry. Try ##c
[12:33] <neol> Flannel: but all the ports r open in my routers, but ubuntu seems to be blcoking the ports.
[12:33] <bzaks> osxdude|laptop: use a VM (would be my best choice)
[12:33] <neol> scipio: i have already configures my router.
[12:33] <Hydrate> MrObvious will do
[12:33] <Esteth> dumbass: While i agree with you, i think PriceChild knows fine well that pidgin is just a continuation of gaim, but he also knows that there is no .deb in synaptic for pidgin, and as such it can be difficult to obtain for linux newbies.
[12:33] <osxdude|laptop> bzaks...any other choises
[12:33] <Phlosten> has anyone had experience with a Laser brand usb KVM, or any other usb KVM that doesnt connect to Ubuntu properly?
[12:33] <dumbass> So we're using grub because it's newer and gaim because it's older and ....what version of the kernel?  not the latest stable release....?
[12:33] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[12:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:33] <lns> Is there a way to force group permissions on files/dirs under Linux (non-samba, we're talking native linux ext3 filesystem)?
[12:33] <dumbass> Esteth: it takes 5 minutes to write an installation script, even from source
[12:33] <neol> anyone who can help me here. ? or
[12:34] <MrObvious> dumbass: You really like to cause trouble don't you?
[12:34] <PriceChild> lns, what are you really trying to do?
[12:34] <Flannel> neol: You'd have to forward the port on your router, so it knows where to go.   If you want come back and I'll be on tomorrow to try to go through the router with you. You might call your router manufacturer and see if they have any ideas.
[12:34] <lns> PriceChild, I'm trying to create a dir (/home/share/computerlab) and have all files created in that dir forced to have g+rwx perms for 'computerlab' unix group.
[12:34] <bzaks> osxdude|laptop: just out of curiosity: have you tried using WINE to run the same program?
[12:34] <Hodapp> dumbass: "progressive" and "intellectual" are not titles you bestow upon yourself, only that others can bestow upon you.
[12:34] <PiRoMaNo> Back <.<
[12:34] <MrObvious> Bye everyone.
[12:35] <PriceChild> !offtopic > Hodapp
[12:35] <neol> Flannel: ok i tried a port on my azureus where i got an port forwarded message but if i use the same port in utorrent the port is not forwarded.
[12:35] <dumbass> Hodapp: it's not my fault you don't understand the world around you, or the societies that preside in it.
[12:35] <PriceChild> lns, so what's wrong?
[12:35] <osxdude|laptop> bzaks. I will try that.
[12:35] <bzaks> good luck!
[12:35] <Hodapp> dumbass: Would you like to go to #politics?
[12:35] <dumbass> Hodapp: meet me in #offtopic
[12:35] <Flannel> neol: Is azureus still open?  You might check netstat to see if the port's in use
[12:36] <jplove71> So... I finally get my dual monitor display to work only for it to break CompizFusion.  Anyone have some ideas/suggestions on how I may go about getting CF to work again?
[12:36] <lns> PriceChild, ..? maybe I just thought of my own answer...does the user's primary group have to be 'computerlab' for them to create a file with group ownership of 'computerlab' ?
[12:36] <neol> MrObvious: i already spoke to them in detail and after checking my router from their place they said that all the ports r open for me, and i personally resetted my router.
[12:36] <jplove71> (I know this should be asked in #ubuntu-effects, but no response there)
[12:36] <dumbass> lns: it helps
[12:36] <osxdude|laptop> bzaks. Trying now
[12:36] <neol> Flannel: azureus is closed.
[12:36] <PriceChild> lns, a user has to be in the group to assign its ownership to something... but you are in lots of groups.
[12:36] <Hodapp> dumbass: You're not there... have you conceded?
[12:36] <dumbass> Hodapp: no, I was blowing you off.
[12:37] <lns> PriceChild, correct. So I guess the question is "how do you force a certain group to own all files within a certain directory?"
[12:37] <neol> Flannel: same ports cannot b used simultaneously at a time.
[12:37] <neol> Flannel: with 2 difff apps
[12:37] <Hodapp> dumbass: You've conceded. Don't even bother discussing it here.
[12:37] <dumbass> lns: a script and cron
[12:37] <jrib> lns: you may want to look at Access Control Lists
[12:37] <dumbass> Hodapp: sorry, I missed that.
[12:37] <lns> jrib, are you saying that's the only way to accomplish it? I can't use standard ext3 file perms to do this?
[12:37] <Hodapp> dumbass: Anything further is to be said in #offtopic.
[12:38] <jrib> lns: you can force group ownership with setgid on the directory but it won't affect the actual group permissions the file is created with
[12:38] <Mathiazz> hi all, do you known an NFS Client for windows?
[12:38] <zerwas> Can somebody tell me how i can deactivate the 3D effects with the console?
[12:38] <aztec13> >	qik Q I have a WAV of a bell on my desktop.Xfce mail notifier has 2 spots for entering commands ,1 if you clk the icon and 1 to ap something with a positive mail in box.What are the commands to set it so the bell trips on each of these events?
[12:38] <dfletcher> Hydrate, I have a question about your prob: are you seeing the file in /usr/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h but it's just not working in your c proggie? if so, try compiling like this: gcc `pkg-config gnome --cflags` source.c -o myproggie
[12:38] <PiRoMaNo> How do I run mirc using wine?
[12:38] <Flannel> PiRoMaNo: why not use a native client?
[12:38] <slackware_> PiRoMaNo: execute the .exe as a normal executable file
[12:38] <neol> PiRoMaNo: wine <software name> in terminal
[12:38] <lns> jrib, i don't see 'man setgid'
[12:38] <slackware_> find your wine directory, run the file
[12:39] <bzaks> (I vote with what neol said)
[12:39] <jplove71> Mathiazz, I use Automatix read/write NTFS and FAT32 Mounter for that
[12:39] <Flannel> !automatix | jplove71
[12:39] <ubotu> jplove71: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:39] <slackware_> honestly, if running a file in wine isn't implicit you shouldn't be using it
[12:39] <tinin> Hi,, How do I make an application to autostart each time I log in?
[12:39] <PiRoMaNo> Says it coulnd't be found
[12:39] <SLASH> ALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAOL
[12:39] <Flannel> !es | SLASH
[12:39] <ubotu> SLASH: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:39] <slackware_> tinin: in fluxbox you just put it in the startup file
[12:39] <neol> tinin: system then admin then session
[12:39] <SLASH> FRIENDS
[12:39] <jrib> lns: man chmod :)
[12:39] <Falstius> jplove71: nfs not ntfs.  And you can use ntfs-3g without automatix.
[12:39] <neol> tinin: if ur using gnome.
[12:39] <Xyhthyx> tinin: put a .desktop for it in /etc/xdg/autostart
[12:39] <lns> jrib, oh i get it, sorry =)
[12:39] <Jowi> lns, chmod -R :groupname directory (someone correct me if I'm off the charts)
[12:40] <Hydrate> dfletcher how exactly do i compile it?
[12:40] <SLASH> SPANISH
[12:40] <jplove71> Falstius, thanks (linux newbie)
[12:40] <Xyhthyx> tinin: or add it in system->pref>sessions
[12:40] <Jowi> !es | SLASH
[12:40] <ubotu> SLASH: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:40] <dfletcher> Hydrate, like I said: gcc `pkg-config gnome --cflags` source.c -o myproggie
[12:40] <lotug> slash
[12:40] <aztec13> si yo hablar espanol
[12:40] <dfletcher> the `pkg-config gnome --cflags` part tells gcc where your headers are
[12:40] <Mathiazz> jplove71: is it working with nfs too?
[12:40] <SLASH> I LOVE GUNS AND ROSES
[12:40] <lns> jrib, that's what I did initially - but that doesn't force group ownership of all files created in that dir to a certain group...maybe acls are the way to go here
[12:41] <neol> SLASH: what has guns and roses got to do with ubuntu. ?
[12:41] <jrib> lns: well it makes it the default when the file is created
[12:41] <lotug> Slash: Guns-n-Roses rocks
[12:41] <aztec13> slash que onda ?
[12:41] <slackware_> SLASH: guns and roses is making a special appearance in ##slackware
[12:41] <PiRoMaNo> slackware_: How?
[12:41] <SLASH> IS GUNS AND ROSES ROCK
[12:41] <jplove71> Mathiazz, I can't answer that.  I don't have a network file system set up.  Sorry.  =(
[12:41] <PriceChild> !offtopic | SLASH
[12:41] <ubotu> SLASH: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:41] <lns> jrib, i'm sorry - with ACLs only or no?
[12:41] <slackware_> PiRoMaNo: go to your wine directory
[12:41] <slackware_> in a console
[12:42] <z0rz> How can I force NTP to update right now (sync the time)?
[12:42] <PiRoMaNo> ?
[12:42] <jrib> lns: my fault, with a directory setgid, the files created in the directory should, by default have the same group as the directory
[12:42] <slackware_> then RUN THE FILE
[12:42] <osxdude|laptop> bzaks. Wine does not work...
[12:42] <neol> where can i find a appropriate manual for iptables other then man pages. ? any site
[12:42] <slackware_> "./mIRC.exe" in "/$wine_directory/C_drive/"
[12:42] <SLASH> I LIVE IN LA ARGENTINA
[12:42] <tinin> Xyhthyx, neol, I use kde most of the times, but now in gnome I don't seem to have system->pref>sessions, did I miss something to install?
[12:42] <jrib> !iptables > neol (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:42] <SLASH> I LOVE SOCCER
[12:42] <slackware_> osxdude|laptop: it works on slackware on a default install
[12:42] <bzaks> osxdude|laptop there's always bitpim
[12:42] <PiRoMaNo> slackware_:  type that in terminal?
[12:43] <aztec13> orita me voy a #ubu-esp junto conmigo alla
[12:43] <slackware_> PiRoMaNo: yes
[12:43] <jrib> neol: see the "Further Information" section especially
[12:43] <neol> tinin: sorry its in preferences.
[12:43] <bzaks> slackware go away if you're going to talk about something non-ubuntu
[12:43] <neol> jrib: thanks
[12:43] <aztec13> slash ya vistas o no
[12:43] <aztec13> I have a WAV of a bell on my desktop.Xfce mail notifier has 2 spots for entering commands ,1 if you clk the icon and 1 to ap something with a positive mail in box.What are the commands to set it so the bell trips on each of these events?
[12:43] <Jowi> PiRoMaNo, normal procedure with wine. first install the app using wine. normally this is done by running "wine Setup.exe" (or similar). then "cd /home/user/.wine/Program\ Files/appname" then "wine appname.exe"
[12:43] <slackware_> bzaks: excuse me?  I'm helping PiRoMaNo run his mIRC in wine on his ubuntu.  Stop harrassing me, troll.
[12:43] <tinin> neol, Xyhthyx thanx, I found it
[12:44] <astro76> slackware_, and the answer is it works in slackware? uh huh
[12:44] <lns> jrib, ok gimme a sec. :) thanks so much so far
[12:44] <Hydrate>  dfletcher:/tmp/cc6eQtgD.o: In function `main':
[12:44] <Hydrate> test.c:(.text+0x2e): undefined reference to `gnome_init'
[12:44] <Hydrate> test.c:(.text+0x42): undefined reference to `gnome_app_new'
[12:44] <Hydrate> test.c:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `gtk_widget_show'
[12:44] <Hydrate> test.c:(.text+0x55): undefined reference to `gtk_main'
[12:44] <Hydrate> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[12:44] <jrib> !paste | Hydrate
[12:44] <ubotu> Hydrate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <Hydrate> oh whops
[12:44] <dfletcher> Hydrate, onesec
[12:44] <slackware_> astro76: indeed, on a default install.  it's a solution to his problem.
[12:44] <Martin^_-> Is there a short bind in ubuntu to open the terminal like Ctrl+Alt or something
[12:44] <hmpmstrH> hi, could anyone help me to install cgiproxy, i cant get it working?
[12:44] <PriceChild> slackware_, bzaks if you believe a user is breaking the ubuntu guidelines (/msg ubotu guidelines) then please either cry !ops or message an op in pm. Accusing them of trolling in channel or calling other names usually does not help.
[12:44] <slackware_> Martin^_-: ctrl + alt + f6
[12:44] <jrib> Martin^_-: set one in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[12:44] <Jowi> PiRoMaNo, sorry, should be "cd /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/appname"
[12:44] <PiRoMaNo> Jowi: Do I need to download the .exe file?
[12:44] <aztec13> I have a WAV of a bell on my desktop.Xfce mail notifier has 2 spots for entering commands ,1 if you clk the icon and 1 to ap something with a positive mail in box.What are the commands to set it so the bell trips on each of these events?
[12:44] <neol> what does no rule mean in iptables ?
[12:44] <slackware_> PriceChild: *yawn*
[12:44] <Hydrate> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36741/
[12:45] <Martin^_-> But does Ctrl+Alt+F6 works without any configuring in keyboard shortcuts
[12:45] <Jowi> PiRoMaNo, most likely yes.
[12:45] <dfletcher> Hydrate, add --libs to the pkg-config part, so it reads `pkg-config gnome --cflags --libs`
[12:45] <jrib> slackware_: if you use slackware_'s suggestion, note that ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to X
[12:45] <PiRoMaNo> lol Alrighty
[12:45] <jrib> Martin^_-: if you use slackware_'s suggestion, note that ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to X
[12:45] <dfletcher> Hydrate, sorry should have thought of that, my bad ;)
[12:45] <slackware_> PiRoMaNo: please read the wine documentation before inquiring further.
[12:45] <SLASH> I LOOK FOR FRIENDS
[12:45] <tinin> Does anyone have problems with the gnome-launch-box? It seems like it has an error while trying to use the icons from the ubuntustudio theme, and it crashes. Is it only my problem?
[12:46] <PriceChild> !guidelines > SLASH (please read the pm from ubotu)
[12:46] <neramos> hey guys
[12:46] <slackware_> PriceChild: !offtopic
[12:46] <seeb> if i download and install sources by myself (e.g the new ndiswrapper) would you suggest me to unzip the files to /usr/src and install it from there ?
[12:46] <neramos> does anyone know a good and simple to use firewall command line for Ubuntu server ?
[12:46] <neol> what does " no rules  " mean in iptables output. ?? :)
[12:46] <aztec13> I have a WAV of a bell on my desktop.Xfce mail notifier has 2 spots for entering commands ,1 if you clk the icon and 1 to ap something with a positive mail in box.What are the commands to set it so the bell trips on each of these events?
[12:46] <jrib> seeb: doesn't really matter, I do it in ~/src for what it's worth
[12:46] <PriceChild> !iptables | neramos
[12:46] <ubotu> neramos: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:46] <Hydrate> dfletcher the same error
[12:46] <Xyhthyx> seeb: I'd prefer somewhere in home.
[12:47] <neol> PriceChild: i'm already their on that site right now. that is why i'm asking.
[12:47] <slackware_> !offtopic > PriceChild
[12:47] <seeb> ok thank you guys
[12:47] <ompaul> slackware_, ??
[12:47] <GoAuLd> wich version of ubuntu should i download for a "INTEL CORE 2 DUO KAPTOP" 32 BIT or 64 Bit ?
[12:47] <PriceChild> slackware_, please do not abuse the bot.
[12:47] <hmpmstrH> cgi proxy help anyone?
[12:47] <slackware_> PriceChild: wouldn't "man iptables" be more functional?
[12:47] <neol> GoAuLd: how much of ram do u have. ?
[12:47] <MeRodent> neol, my guess would be that the firewall is totally open
[12:47] <GoAuLd> 4 GB
[12:47] <jrib> GoAuLd: you can use either, but 32bit is recommended for a desktop system.  I wouldn't recommend using 64bit unless you have a very good reason
[12:48] <neol> MeRodent: yes that is what i thought too. thx
[12:48] <GoAuLd> jrib why ?
[12:48] <PriceChild> neramos, as slackware_ has pointed out, you should also read "man iptables" - type it into a terminal and you get hte manual :)
[12:48] <neol> GoAuLd: go for 64 bit.
[12:48] <GoAuLd> wich is faster?
[12:48] <jrib> GoAuLd: closed source things like flash and sun java plugin are not available for 64bit, so you will have some extra work if you want them
[12:48] <neramos> PriceChild thx
[12:48] <digitalspaghetti> i've just got a VPS with Ubuntu, and i'm trying to install mysql, but i get this error:  http://digitalspaghetti.pastebin.ca/686355
[12:49] <digitalspaghetti> can anyone help?
[12:49] <slackware_> so uh....who's in charge in this cracker shack?
[12:49] <neol> GoAuLd: apps which require huge ram, than 64 bit is required, if ur using normal apps then stick to 32 bit
[12:49] <dfletcher> Hydrate, well that's weird. can you pastebin the output of just running pkgconfig gnome --cflags --libs please?
[12:50] <slackware_> digitalspaghetti: what's the problem?  did you forget your problem?
[12:50] <lns> jrib, awesome. I honestly forgot all about the sticky bit. =) now is there any way to force g+rwx perms on files created in a certain dir?
[12:50] <nj786__> how do i save a document in openoffice so that if i email it to somebody that document (windows user) they can read it?
[12:50] <bzaks> can anyone help me set up a network install?
[12:50] <GoAuLd> but using 64 will give me at least speed improvement?
[12:50] <PriceChild> GoAuLd, not very noticable....
[12:50] <jrib> lns: I only know of using ACLs to do that
[12:50] <dfletcher> Hydrate, err sorry, that should have been "pkg-config"
[12:50] <slackware_> lns: yes!  a .profile script!
[12:50] <digitalspaghetti> slackware_, no i'm trying to install MySQL on a Ubuntu server
[12:50] <neol> GoAuLd: it depends on the apps u use.
[12:50] <MrObvious> Hi.
[12:50] <digitalspaghetti> but i'm getting the error i've pasted
[12:50] <PriceChild> GoAuLd, only significantly on things like openssh server, heavy mysql databasing and video encoding
[12:50] <lns> jrib, ok... thanks buddy you've been a great help!
[12:50] <neol> MrObvious: i thought u had left :P
[12:50] <GoAuLd> ok then i will use 32
[12:51] <slackware_> digitalspaghetti: wrong OS for MySQL use-- ubuntu is a desktop oriented system-- you need a semi, like slackware.  you can find out about it in ##slackware
[12:51] <jrib> lns: np, hope you find a good solution
[12:51] <GoAuLd> the hughest app i use is tremulous, a game
[12:51] <dfletcher> Hydrate, brb, 10 mins. feel free to PM me if you want a bit quieter chat
[12:51] <nj786__> PriceChild: do you know anything about openoffice app?
[12:51] <neol> GoAuLd: u saved urself from problem
[12:51] <MrObvious> neol: I did. I went to home from work.
[12:51] <neol> MrObvious: so soon, superman.
[12:51] <digitalspaghetti> slackware_, well it;s Ubuntu sevrer i'm using
[12:51] <neol> MrObvious: :P
[12:51] <slackware_> nj786__: openoffice.org has an IRC channel on this server
[12:51] <digitalspaghetti> not desktop
[12:51] <lns> slackware_, you mean a umask variable?
[12:51] <slackware_> digitalspaghetti: that's the problem, not the solution
[12:52] <GoAuLd> i didnt have the laptop yet, but ill buy it very soon
[12:52] <MrObvious> neol: I only live like 5 mins from work. I'm in a decently sized town in Kansas, not like a bigger city.
[12:52] <slackware_> lns: no, man, I mean a script that does a chmod -R every time you login or out
[12:52] <astro76> slackware_, this channel is to help people with UBUNTU
[12:52] <slackware_> or everytime you pull up a shell
[12:52] <nj786_> slackware, are you talking about the application of the link?
[12:52] <GoAuLd> i dont know and im not sure if wait some time for core duo extreme
[12:52] <slackware_> astro76: I agree and am using it accordingly
[12:52] <lns> slackware_, ugh...that wouldn't work on a live system with 20+ users on it at the same time
[12:52] <lns> thanks thou
[12:52] <slackware_> nj786_: openoffice.org has a channel on htis server
[12:53] <MrObvious> slackware_: Then why are you telling people to go to a slackware channel anyway? That's not cool dude.
[12:53] <slackware_> lns: yes it would
[12:53] <nj786_> slackware_: ok where can i find it?
[12:53] <slackware_> MrObvious: I'm fixing their technical difficulties.
[12:53] <digitalspaghetti> yea, slackware_ sucks
[12:53] <lns> slackware_, how? whenever they create files it wouldn't chmod until they log out
[12:53] <PriceChild> !guidelines > slackware_
[12:53] <slackware_> nj786_: try #openoffice.org
[12:53] <PriceChild> slackware_, see pm with me please
[12:53] <slackware_> !guidelines > PriceChild
[12:54] <lns> PriceChild, lol
[12:54] <chief> finally...
[12:54] <lns> sock it to him
[12:54] <bzaks> yay!
[12:54] <bzaks> :)
[12:54] <MrObvious> Thanks Pricey.
[12:54] <bzaks> thank you PriceChild!
[12:54] <MrObvious> He was annoying.
[12:54] <MrObvious> BRB I'm gonna reboot in Linux.  I have enough of it at work.
[12:54] <MeRodent> Bugger.. Now I won't have someone to tell me that all my problems will be solved by running slackware. :(
[12:54] <SmoothOp> lol
[12:54] <SmoothOp> need more in #mac
[12:54] <SmoothOp> brb
[12:55] <CoasterMaster> forgot I was already in here....
[12:55] <digitalspaghetti> i've just got a VPS with Ubuntu, and i'm trying to install mysql, but i get this error:  http://digitalspaghetti.pastebin.ca/686355  can anyone help?
[12:55] <bzaks> what is VPS?
[12:55] <PriceChild> bzaks, virtual private server?
[12:55] <PriceChild> *guessing*
[12:55] <digitalspaghetti> yea
[12:56] <neol> MeRodent: to know about slackware go to their respective channels they would explain it better.
[12:56] <gcrackah> woot, it worked.
[12:56] <digitalspaghetti> basically i have root access to the server
[12:56] <bzaks> Man, I really need to learn my acronyms.
[12:56] <bzaks> Perhaps you should uninstall and reinstall mysql using apt-get
[12:56] <bzaks> because it said this:0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed.
[12:56] <digitalspaghetti> fresh install bzaks
[12:57] <slackware__> digitalspaghetti no, don't uninstall, read the manual!
[12:57] <digitalspaghetti> yea, it downloaded already bzaks
[12:57] <bzaks> I would say a fresh install would probably fix it fastest
[12:58] <MeRodent> Any suggestions (apart from run slackware) as to why one of my computers craps itself when running X800 with xgl since the kernel update? Despite it woking perfectly using MESA GL?
[12:58] <Downix> ok, does anyone know Athlon models well?
[12:58] <Hydrate> im going bed, night all
[12:58] <bzaks> I use an Athlon Model
[12:58] <bzaks> 'night hydrate
[12:58] <kitche> MeRodent, how did you install the fglrx?
[12:58] <Downix> I have a CPU that lists as a Sempron 3200+, but it's a SocketA
[12:58] <digitalspaghetti> bzaks, fresh 7,04 server installed, all i've installed is php5 and apache2, nothing else
[12:58] <Downix> there is no SocketA Sempron 3200+'s listed anywhere
[12:58] <neol> Downix: so ?
[12:59] <bzaks> Downix: is this going to affect functionality?
[12:59] <Downix> I'm trying to identify the proper FSB for it
[12:59] <bzaks> 400 Mhz
[12:59] <nj786_> slackware, nobody is responding
[12:59] <chris_punches> hehe
[12:59] <MeRodent> kitche: Before the update following the instuctions to get Beryl working on ati. Following the update using both apt-get and installing restricted drivers.
[12:59] <Downix> ok
[12:59] <chris_punches> Wow your ops are idiots.
[12:59] <JzaMedia> Hi all I'm looking for some dutch peepz who know something about FTD
[12:59] <cafuego> Daar heeft geen van ons enig idee over.
[01:00] <bzaks> digitalspaghetti: do a sudo apt-get remove mysql
[01:00] <Flannel> nj786_: does OOo not offer to save as .doc?
[01:00] <xivulon> can someone pls tell me what are the
[01:00] <bzaks> and then do an install
[01:00] <Ghlave> any raid gurus present?
[01:00] <cafuego> !ask
[01:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:00] <bzaks> okay, I've got class
[01:00] <bzaks> see you guys later!
[01:00] <bzaks> bai!
[01:00] <logan> I have a stero output, line in, and microphone jack on my sound card. In windows I was able to set the line in to be the rear channel for my 5.1 and the microphone port as the center/sub channel. Is this possible in linux?
[01:00] <nj786_> Flannel: ooo?
[01:00] <MeRodent> kitche, But the problem is only using xgl. It occurs with the native ati or vesa drivers too.
[01:00] <Downix> I was concerned because the only 3200+ SocketA's I've seen listed could be 333Mhz or 400Mhz
[01:00] <Flannel> nj786_: OpenOffice.org
[01:00] <Downix> but both were AthlonXP's, not Semprons
[01:00] <xivulon> can someone pls tell me what are the access seettings of /dev/console? ls -al /dev/console
[01:00] <jplove71> Flannel, Yes, OOo does offer to save as .doc format.
[01:01] <nj786_> Flannel: if its a .doc windows users can read it on word?
[01:01] <cafuego> xivulon: 600
[01:01] <Tiradin> I know this isn't Ubuntu related, but would anyone happen to know how well SuSE would run on something with 256 of ram -.-
[01:01] <cafuego> 0600 even
[01:01] <jplove71> nj786_, Yes.
[01:01] <Jimmey> I am trying to render a 3D scene using the yafray renderer supplied in Ubuntu's repositories, which used to run fine. It's not running alot more slowly, and the renderer's toll on the system seems to be greater. In the system monitor, I notice that yafray's using most of the system's ram, although the ram is never in 100% use, and even some of the swap partition - Why is it all of a sudden taking so long, and using so much of the c
[01:01] <Iradigalesc> Is any package necessari to use python locales? I tryed to use en_US but it dosn't work
[01:01] <kitche> MeRodent, well native ati and vesa drivers can't use xgl anyways what does xgl do when it crashes
[01:01] <xivulon> cafuego thx
[01:01] <nj786_> jplove71: ok thats what i wanted to know thanks lol
[01:01] <dfletcher> what is it with all the questions/comments about other dists today?! get a room people!! ;D
[01:01] <nj786_> Flannel: thats all i wanted to know thanks
[01:01] <jplove71> nj786_, np  =)
[01:02] <MrObvious> Ahh better.
[01:02] <Flannel> nj786_: yes.  rtf would also work, but you'll lose some formatting.  Also, you can save as a pdf too, then they can open it in acrobat (not edit though, if you're looking for editability)
[01:02] <MeRodent> kitche, looks like the screen is redrawn multiple times on top of itself.
[01:02] <Downix> dfletcher: I could start talking OpenBSD and scare them off?
[01:02] <dfletcher> :P
[01:02] <xivulon> cafuego. what do you get if you run: check-foreground-console;echo $?
[01:02] <Downix> dfletcher: The wrath of Theo!!!
[01:02] <flyingoober> ls
[01:02] <poul|raider> What is the most used window manager on ubuntu atm`=?
[01:03] <PriceChild> poul|raider, metacity
[01:03] <MrObvious> Probably Gnome guessing by the amount of people on here.
[01:03] <cafuego> xivulon: 0
[01:03] <Downix> poul|raider: AmiWM!  8)
[01:03] <_ropak_> poul|raider, xfce
[01:03] <xivulon> cafuego: hmm I get 2
[01:03] <neol> +1 for gnome
[01:03] <poul|raider> PriceChild, hows that compaired to beryl?
[01:03] <dfletcher> gnome is a wm? news to me ;)
[01:03] <jplove71> MrObvious, Gnome is not a window manager.  It is a desktop environment.
[01:03] <poul|raider> :P
[01:03] <PriceChild> poul|raider, metacity is the default 2d window manager
[01:03] <MrObvious> jplove71: Well technicalities. Whateer.
[01:03] <MrObvious> *whatever
[01:03] <erlinux> im justing testing opera's irc
[01:03] <PriceChild> poul|raider, beryl/compiz talk in #ubuntu-effects
[01:03] <neol> sorry that was metacity.
[01:04] <cafuego> xivulon: I think you;'ll need to use the source, the tool has no --help option or manpage.
[01:04] <poul|raider> well is beryl still being worked on? belived it was stoped
[01:04] <cafuego> xivulon: Actually, perhaps 'strace check-foreground-console'
[01:04] <PriceChild> poul|raider, #ubuntu-effects
[01:04] <poul|raider> half a year since i had linux booted up :)
[01:04] <MeRodent> poul|raider, it's merged with compiz
[01:04] <poul|raider> oki PriceChild
[01:05] <jplove71> What folder do downloaded themes go in?
[01:05] <neol> /.themes jplove71
[01:05] <neol> in home directory jplove71
[01:05] <MrObvious> jplove71: ~/.themes
[01:05] <MrObvious> neol: :p
[01:05] <neol> ;)
[01:05] <MrObvious> neol: Now I'm in Linux and I am free :D.
[01:06] <kitche> poul|raider, beryl is a "dead" project
[01:06] <xivulon> cafuego how do I interpret the result?
[01:06] <PiRoMaNo> WHere'd that Jowi fella go?
[01:06] <neol> MrObvious: so what :)
[01:06] <poul|raider> btw, i normaly use windows as it find it better to game on(wow). But i dont get much for having a new grafic card in linux gaming do i?
[01:06] <MrObvious> neol: I'm not on Winblows anymore.
[01:06] <MrObvious> neol: Was it you trying to use uTorrent? Or was that someone else?
[01:06] <neol> MrObvious: hehe, it was me
[01:06] <Jimmey> poul|raider, what do you mean?
[01:06] <xivulon> cafuego: open("/dev/console", O_RDWR)            = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[01:06] <MrObvious> poul|raider: Do you have an NVidia or ATi card?
[01:07] <Downix> hmm... trying to get a USB drive to mount in RW mode
[01:07] <neol> MrObvious: tell me what to do now. ?
[01:07] <Downix> and having little luck
[01:07] <poul|raider> nvidia 8800
[01:07] <MrObvious> neol: Did you ever geti tt o work?
[01:07] <ochosi> hi, i installed the wacom-kernel-source via m-a "by accident" (long story...). could anyone tell me how to remove it since it seems to be in the way of installing fakeroot
[01:07] <MrObvious> poul|raider: There are drivers.
[01:07] <neol> MrObvious: does not work.
[01:07] <poul|raider> i am just getting the feeling that windows get more out of it then when playing in linux? is it just me or?
[01:07] <MrObvious> ochosi: What happens with sudo apt-get remove wacom-kernel-source ?
[01:07] <kitche> Downix, hmm for me USB's are mounted RW auto but is this a drive and not a thumbdrive?
[01:07] <Downix> kitche: It's a 60GB HD
[01:08] <MrObvious> neol: Okay so the router is fine because you have Azuerus working right?
[01:08] <kitche> Downix, formatted as what?
[01:08] <neol> MrObvious: yes sir
[01:08] <Downix> kitche: FAT32
[01:08] <Jimmey> poul|raider, my nVidia performs better on Linux
[01:08] <kitche> Downix, then you should have permissions to write to it
[01:08] <xivulon> cafuego: I do not understand how I am supposed to open /dev/console rw if the permission is 0600, who comes that is not an issue for you?
[01:08] <Downix> kitche: I'll tinker to make it work
[01:09] <poul|raider> ok, Jimmey
[01:09] <MrObvious> neol: Hmm. Can you remove the firewall then? I don't think Ubuntu comes with a firewall stock.
[01:09] <neol> MrObvious: plz do tell fast the solution, coz its 4.40 AM and i have got to sleep buddy.
[01:09] <massimo_> i cannot understand
[01:09] <jeeves__> has anyone found a fix for the sound on Toshiba laptops yet?
[01:09] <cafuego> xivulon: Check for the function call that fails and causes the tool to exit with status 2.
[01:09] <neol> MrObvious: i have already uninstalled all the firewalls.
[01:09] <ochosi> MrObvious: oh my dear. sometimes it's really easy. sorry for bothering, it's already late and i've had some wine :) thanks anyway!
[01:09] <kitche> !iptables | MrObvious
[01:09] <ubotu> MrObvious: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:09] <Downix> ok, got it
[01:09] <xivulon> cafuego: it's open("/dev/console", O_RDWR)            = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[01:09] <mariocesar_bo> Hi all, how can I know the IP of the PC's connected to my network from the command line?
[01:09] <poul|raider> btw, is it totaly stupid of me to ect have a game on a window disk and run it directly from it without copying it over on the linux drive?
[01:09] <MrObvious> kitche: I know Ubuntu can DO iptables, but it's not enabled by default.
[01:10] <xivulon> cafuego: that sounds normal since permission is 600
[01:10] <massimo_> can I restart?
[01:10] <bruenig> MrObvious, kind of is
[01:10] <kitche> MrObvious, sure it is it's just has no rules
[01:10] <Noah0504> Without installing every gstreamer package under the sun, I need an easy way to encode and read either AAC or MP3.  MP3 will do just fine.
[01:10] <neol> MrObvious: dont deviate from the topic. come back.
[01:10] <cafuego> xivulon: Hmmm.
[01:10] <jplove71> neol, You lost me on that.  I don't have a /.themes folder in my home directory.
[01:10] <MrObvious> neol: Hmm. Can you just use Azuerus then?
[01:10] <cafuego> xivulon: Mine does the same, but still returns 0.
[01:10] <massimo_> wich is the topic?
[01:10] <xivulon> cafuego: how can you open the file r/w?
[01:10] <neol> jplove71: click on show hidden files and folders. :P
[01:10] <MeRodent> jplove71, /. folders are hidden.
[01:10] <Jimmey> poul|raider, depends upon the game
[01:10] <cafuego> xivulon: I can't.
[01:10] <MrObvious> jplove71: Open a terminal and type cd ~/.themes and if it's not there it's hidden.
[01:11] <MrObvious> jplove71: Open a terminal and type cd ~/.themes and if it's not there it's not made. It's a hidden folder *
[01:11] <logan> I installed compiz but when I go to config it, it says it isn't running. How do I make it run?
[01:11] <xivulon> cafuego: what does strace show?
[01:11] <jplove71> neol, nvm, I found it.  It's just .themes
[01:11] <MrObvious> !effects | logan
[01:11] <cafuego> open("/dev/console", O_RDWR)            = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[01:11] <ubotu> logan: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[01:11] <Downix> trying to back up my 120GB HD onto a 60GB external... this is going to get ugly....
[01:11] <cafuego> exit_group(2)
[01:11] <poul|raider> Jimmey, thinking of wow here as i most licky wont stop useing windows totaly, so would be nice to just run it from the same folder
[01:11] <zerwas> is it possible to have an automated command to remove the "nvidia" in xorg.conf and set it to "nv"?
[01:11] <cafuego> But echo $? still shows 0.
[01:11] <neol> MrObvious: but i get good speed on utorrent in windows than in azureus in linux, so i wanna use utorrent dude.
[01:12] <crabgrass> alright guys, about to begin installing xfce/ubuntu on a headless box to use as a backup platform. any reccomendations on a filesystem for backups? reiser? ext3?
[01:12] <MrObvious> neol: Hmm. I understand.
[01:12] <xivulon> cafuego: ???
[01:12] <cafuego> xivulon: Mind you, I'm not supposed to be able to write to /dev/console a snormal user.
[01:12] <mccool> hi guys if anyone can help me with this i will be really greatfull, my keyboard has just stoped working in xorg but yet it works fine at the gdm and in a virtual console, is there a key combination that disables the keyboard that i may have accidently pressed?
[01:12] <bruenig> zerwas, a clean swap with nothing else is just sed 's/nvidia/nv//'
[01:12] <Jimmey> poul|raider, try http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:12] <MrObvious> neol: Maybe you should work on it later after you get some sleep.
[01:12] <Downix> WinXP/2k dual-boot HD went loco
[01:12] <neol> MrObvious: LOL
[01:12] <zerwas> bruenig, ok, looks easy. but how would the whole command look like?
[01:12] <Downix> turns out XP damaged it's own filesystem
[01:12] <MrObvious> neol: Besides I think my family is here. I g2g again :\
[01:12] <ugarit> I want a particular script to run when a user logs in and another one when they logout, they're using bash, how do I do that?
[01:12] <xivulon> cafuego: codes is: fd = open("/dev/console", O_RDWR); DIEIF((fd < 1));
[01:12] <bruenig> zerwas, sed 's/nvidia/nv//' -i /etc/xorg.conf
[01:12] <neol> MrObvious: runnning away :P
[01:13] <bruenig> zerwas, sed 's/nvidia/nv/' -i /etc/xorg.conf
[01:13] <zerwas> bruenig, ah, -i...thank you very much bruenig!
[01:13] <zerwas> bruenig, :-))
[01:13] <neol> MrObvious: bye i'm 2 going to sleep now. :)
[01:13] <poul|raider> Jimmey, think you missunderstood me, its not about if its posible. just if linux read/write from a windows disk as fast as from the filsystem linux use itself?
[01:14] <bruenig> poul|raider, test it with hdparm
[01:14] <poul|raider> bruenig, ye might do that. gotta get ubuntu installed first. dling the disk atm :)
[01:14] <Scorpus> Hi
[01:14] <nj786> is there photoshop for ubuntu?
[01:14] <Downix> poul|raider: I find Linux to have between a 10-15% speed edge over WinXP on the same disk, 35-45% faster over Vista
[01:15] <bruenig> nj786, no
[01:15] <PriceChild> nj786, the gimp
[01:15] <Downix> nj786: ever tried The Gimp?
[01:15] <nj786> Downix: yea it sucks
[01:15] <neramos> hey, when i try to save the files to this location i get "Permission denied" although i did this "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" ; any ideas ???
[01:15] <bruenig> Downix, I don't think you quite understand what poul|raider is asking
[01:15] <nerdboy1024> MrObvious, thanks, for the info, but i am having a problem Error: Can't open display:
[01:15] <poul|raider> Downix, i am not compairing, just talking about reading from a window ntsf disk from linux
[01:15] <nj786> Downix: can you download photoshop?
[01:15] <Downix> bruenig: quite possible
[01:15] <MeRodent> ugarit, check the /etc/bash.bashrc file
[01:15] <Downix> nj786:  never tried
[01:16] <poul|raider> *giggle* dont even remember if its ntsf its called :D
[01:16] <nj786> PriceChild: can you download photoshop?
[01:16] <Downix> poul|raider: I'm doing it right now, backing up my NTFS system
[01:16] <mccool> hi guys does anybody know if there is a keyboard shortcut to disable the keys under Xorg
[01:16] <PriceChild> nj786, you must pay
[01:16] <poul|raider> oki, Downix
[01:16] <nj786> PriceChild: pay?
[01:16] <kitche> nj786, adobe photoshop it big money also
[01:16] <PriceChild> nj786, its commercial software? You have to pay for a license?
[01:16] <jrib> mccool: disable what keys?
[01:16] <nj786> PriceChild: what if you have a cd? how do you get it to wotk
[01:16] <nj786> work
[01:16] <Downix> poul|raider: My 2k/XP install is doing badly, so I'm backing up my key files to an external before I blow it away
[01:16] <PriceChild> nj786, maybe wine
[01:16] <mccool> jrib, yeah key presses so the keyboard does not work
[01:17] <nj786> PriceChild: alright
[01:17] <poul|raider> Downix, oki
[01:17] <kitche> PriceChild, nj786 from what I understand CS does not work in wine
[01:17] <Anlar> nj786: winehq.com/appdb, but only ANCIENT versions work with wine
[01:17] <jrib> mccool: oh I see, interesting question, but I don't know the answer
[01:17] <neramos> anyone pleaase
[01:17] <nj786> kitche: ahh that blows...
[01:17] <neramos> hey, when i try to save the files to this location i get "Permission denied" although i did this "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" ; any ideas ???
[01:17] <poul|raider> Anyone know if the beryl/compiz thing got the frame capture module as beryl had in version 3.0?
[01:17] <Downix> poul|raider: Earlier today I was using VPN to dump the whole compressed archive to a remote system as well.
[01:17] <poul|raider> :)
[01:17] <mccool> jrib, its just i think i may have pressed it as my keyboard has stoped working under Xorg
[01:18] <Downix> poul|raider: so, I'd say Linux handles NTFS just file
[01:18] <jrib> mccool: oh, can you still click and open menus with the mouse?
[01:18] <mccool> jrib, yep
[01:18] <xivulon> cafuego: any idea? I checked the code, it should return 2 if open-rw fails. Whith what permissions do you run check-foreground-console?
[01:18] <mccool> jrib, just cant type anything
[01:18] <jrib> mccool: I would just reboot then
[01:18] <poul|raider> oki, only problem with my wow would be then that the config.wtf is diff from windows to linux
[01:18] <mccool> jrib, i have it just the same when i come back on it
[01:19] <nerdboy1024> caughemulephotoshot+activation+crackcaugh
[01:19] <Downix> poul|raider: you'd need wine, but otherwise it's pretty straight forward.  To simplify things, I might recomment Cedega.
[01:19] <mccool> jrib,  do you know of anyway to reset xorg or to clear out the session?
[01:20] <Downix> poul|raider: I'm a CoH fan over WoW tho
[01:20] <poul|raider> ye ye, i have been running wow before n
[01:20] <jrib> mccool: hmm, have you seen if your keyboard works on another OS or livecd?
[01:20] <mccool> jrib, to see if that helps
[01:20] <poul|raider> tho
[01:20] <poul|raider> but i had it 2 places, one for linux one for windows.
[01:20] <nj786> nerdboy1024: u there>
[01:20] <poul|raider> so would be nice if i just could run it from the same location
[01:20] <Downix> poul|raider: That's always safer.
[01:20] <poul|raider> just changing the wtf file depending on what os i am on
[01:21] <mccool> jrib, yeah im on windows at the moment, and it works find under a virtual console.  Its been working fine for several months as well under linux but I was pressing a few buttons today lol, and now its stoped working :-(
[01:21] <poul|raider> but well, would be nice if creative released the x-fi drivers
[01:21] <jrib> mccool: does it work at the login screen for ubuntu?
[01:21] <ugarit> besides the fuse group what other group must the standard user be in to be able to mount via sshfs, i get permission denied?
[01:21] <mccool> jrib, yep
[01:21] <jrib> mccool: ah, and with a new user you create?
[01:22] <mccool> jrib, how do you mean
[01:22] <Esteth> is there a torrent client for linux/ubuntu that allows me to select only particular files from it to download? currently using uTorrent under wine, which works, but is winey.
[01:22] <xivulon> Does anyone get 2 when running: check-foreground-console;echo $?
[01:23] <jrib> mccool: try creating a new user (ctrl-alt-f1 to get to the terminal, 'sudo adduser testuser', alt-f7 to get back to the login screen in X), login with "testuser" and see if the keyboard works then.  If it does, it means it's a user configuration issue
[01:23] <jrib> Esteth: azureus has that feature I *think*
[01:23] <mccool> ok il try that out and see if that works
[01:24] <Downix> now, if I could only get samba to cooperate
[01:24] <mccool> jrib, if it is a user configuration thing is it easy to fix
[01:24] <jrib> mccool: well, it means it's probably some .file in your HOME, we just have to find it
[01:25] <mccool> jrib, thanks for your help i apreciate it
[01:25] <erlinux> does firefox/sunbird/thunderbird share libraries???
[01:25] <mccool> jrib, ill give it a go now
[01:25] <erlinux> cuz i run all of them
[01:25] <jrib> mccool: np, come back afterwards
[01:25] <Esteth> jrib: thanks :)
[01:25] <mccool> jrib, sure ill let you know how i got on
[01:25] <mccool> jrib, speak to you in a bit
[01:26] <xivulon> is /bin/check-foreground-console supposed to be setuid?
[01:26] <ugarit> which initilization file is used when a user logs in via GNOME?  I want to run a particular script as login and logout.
[01:26] <Erich85> Hi all.  I'm trying to use Compiz-Fusion, but when I try to pull up the settings manager, it's a no go.  Nothing happens.  I had Beryl before this without a problem.
[01:26] <PriceChild> !startup | ugarit
[01:26] <ubotu> ugarit: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:26] <d4rkmonkey> Erich85 what settings manager?
[01:26] <PriceChild> !effects | Erich85
[01:26] <ubotu> Erich85: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[01:27] <bruce__> #GAYTH
[01:27] <Erich85> d4rkmonkey: Compiz-Fusion's, which is accessible either by system->preferences, or by right clicking on the tray icon.  To configure which effects are visible.
[01:28] <d4rkmonkey> Erich85 are you talking about the Compiz Config Settings Manager, or system>preferences>desktop effects ?
[01:28] <ugarit> ubotu: what about at logout?
[01:28] <Erich85> d4rkmonkey: The former
[01:29] <xivulon> what are the permissions of /bin/check-foreground-console in your case?
[01:29] <kahrytan> Hello
[01:29] <d4rkmonkey> Erich85 have you tried reinstalling ccsm?
[01:30] <mcoolio> jrib, the keyboard is working fine under a dummy account
[01:30] <mcoolio> jrib, so as you said it must be a user configrationg thing
[01:30] <Erich85> d4rkmonkey: What is ccsm?
[01:30] <xivulon> cafuego: what are your permissions for check-foreground-console?
[01:31] <zezom> I'm running synergy and I would like it to start when the login screen appears. is there a way to do this?
[01:31] <iliketofrolic> how do i reinstall grub after installing XP?
[01:31] <simplechat> put your ubuntu disk back in?
[01:31] <d4rkmonkey> Erich85 short form for compiz config settings manager, I don't feel like typing the whole world, package name is compiz-config-settings-manager I believe
[01:31] <jrib> mcoolio: ok, I would start renaming .FILE to .FILE.backup for the other user and seeing if you can narrow it down.  I'd start with renaming ~/.config, ~/.gnome*, and ~/.gconf .  Then try the account again.  You get the idea?
[01:31] <Menth> !grub
[01:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:32] <iliketofrolic> aww thanks
[01:32] <Menth> wow that was a easy one
[01:32] <Grubby> gunavara
[01:32] <timewriter> hi
[01:32] <timewriter> how much swap space i need for Feisty ?
[01:32] <mcoolio> jrib, yeah thats a good idea
[01:32] <Downix> I use 4GB for mine
[01:32] <timewriter> hm
[01:33] <timewriter> i have 2 Gb of ram
[01:33] <Downix> but I go by the rule, twice as much swap as you have RAM
[01:33] <mcoolio> jrib, thanks for you help
[01:33] <jrib> mcoolio: np
[01:33] <timewriter> so the rule is still on charge
[01:33] <mcoolio> jrib, i might be out for a little while lol
[01:33] <timewriter> ok
[01:33] <timewriter> thanks
[01:34] <kitche> Downix, man that rules is no good anymore
[01:34] <Downix> kitche: I've been running since slack 3.0
[01:35] <fivetwentysix_> I have a question, when I look at a darker image, say a black picture, my screen darkens, how do I prevent this from happening?
[01:36] <Erich85> Here's a question.  Recently I noticed that when I boot Ubuntu, from turning on my computer, I get a black screen after the Ubuntu graphic loads.  The only way to avoid this is to dick around in recovery mode for a bit, login, then type exit twice, to boot the GUI.
[01:38] <xivulon> I have a problem: check-foreground-console returns 2 and that block gnome-power-manager. Any idea how to fix that?
[01:38] <Jimmey> I have a 7.1 capable sound card - If I plug some speakers into one of the other jacks on the card, should that work? Or do they all need to be plugged into one woofer
[01:40] <etale> hi all: audio has seemed to stop working for video in mozilla.... this seemed to happen when i was loading several clips from cnn at once.  youtube has no audio now as well... even after restarting the computer. any hints?
[01:40] <rockets> Is there any way to repair a bad superblock?
[01:41] <rockets> I get a magic number wrong error
[01:41] <scipio> is there any tag editor for audio files (mp3/flac etc) the can tag them with minimum work? maybe one that is able to look up information on the internet?
[01:42] <fivetwentysix_> Uhh
[01:42] <fivetwentysix_> I can't remove this program
[01:42] <fivetwentysix_> That i installed accidently in synaptic package manager
[01:42] <Jimmey> scipio, Rythmbox can do that, I'm sure..
[01:43] <mauri> hi all
[01:43] <mauri> someone can help me
[01:44] <Flannel> !ask | mauri
[01:44] <ubotu> mauri: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:44] <mauri> it the first time i use irc server
[01:44] <mauri> i have a problem with kubuntu
[01:44] <azt> night
[01:46] <mauri> flanel  i'm not be able to configure my webcam in kubuntu 7.10
[01:46] <azt> ppl, I have my new mother MSI K9n Neo for amd 64 and I had not got luck configuring the sound card
[01:47] <azt> it is a HDA nvidia realtek alc883
[01:47] <azt> lucho@ubuntu:~$ aplay -l
[01:47] <azt> **** Lista de PLAYBACK Dispositivos Hardware ****
[01:47] <azt> tarjeta 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia] , dispositivo 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
[01:48] <xivulon> ha, fixed it :)
[01:48] <mauri> someone can help me..........  i'm not be able to configure my webcam in kubuntu 7.10
[01:48] <mauri> someone can help me..........  i'm not be able to configure my webcam in kubuntu 7.10
[01:49] <bruenig> mauri, stop
[01:49] <Lo_Pan> maybe if you ask a few more times
[01:49] <Lo_Pan> someone will respond
[01:49] <sammy> does anyone know of any issues installing from the minimalcd vs the full iso?
[01:49] <robsta> is there a packet for (x)ubuntu equal to superkaramba ?
[01:49] <azt> anybody know which could be the deal with this problem?
[01:50] <bruenig> stop saying packet
[01:50] <d4rkmonkey> !superkaramba
[01:50] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[01:50] <robsta> isnt it for kde only?
[01:50] <bruenig> robsta, you can use superkaramba on anything
[01:50] <fivetwentysix> What's the shell command for deleting a directory?
[01:50] <bruenig> rmdir
[01:50] <robsta> ahhhh thank you bruenig
[01:50] <fivetwentysix> thanks
[01:51] <Esteth> what internet browser (shell based) is the reccomended one ?
[01:52] <bruenig> !best | Esteth
[01:52] <ubotu> Esteth: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:52] <glenn> why does ubuntu see my PSP's memorcy card at 160mb free when ther is 1200mb freE?
[01:52] <mauri>  <bruenig> tell me
[01:52] <mauri>  <bruenig> tell me i don't understand stop
[01:52] <bruenig> !attitude | mauri
[01:52] <ubotu> mauri: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:53] <Esteth> bruenig: i never said "best", but "reccomended". Much as Firefox and gedit are "reccomended"
[01:53] <bruenig> I don't recommend gedit
[01:53] <Pelo> glenn, I get something similar with my mp3 player,  think it's bacause of the way that kind of memory is formated
[01:53] <MeRodent> glenn, most consoles measure mb whereas ubuntu is probably measureing mB
[01:53] <mauri>  <bruenig> i don't know how to use irc
[01:53] <glenn> how do we fix?
[01:53] <glenn> I mean I have to be able to get on it?
[01:53] <kishan_> have a question for tor is there a way to setup an user account with tor and other without tor in ubuntu
[01:53] <MeRodent> ie megabits vs megabytes (8x difference)
[01:53] <Pelo> glenn,  you don'T
[01:54] <glenn> what
[01:54] <Pelo> glenn, or try to empty the trash,  ( assuming you've deletted)
[01:54] <glenn> thats stupid so we cant even use it!
[01:54] <glenn> I did that
[01:54] <nme> Hello there people! I need some help with my audio!
[01:54] <randy026> Whats a good program to watch my TV tuner on my computer?
[01:54] <glenn> man Ill have to go back to xp than
[01:55] <sidu>  sudo apt-get install php5-gd -- Failed ERR:  php5-gd: depends on: php5-common (= 5.2.1-0ubuntu1) but 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2 is to be installed
[01:55] <sidu> E: Can not install this package
[01:55] <sidu> HELP!
[01:55] <glenn> what a waste of time
[01:55] <Pelo> nme, we need better questions
[01:55] <Pelo> sidu,  open synaptic and install the package they ask for
[01:55] <bruenig> !doesn't work | nme
[01:55] <ubotu> nme: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[01:55] <nme> Ok, my sound was working just fine, then I was getting some packages and bam, no more sound
[01:55] <kishan_> if i install tor in one user account will it also run on other user accounts
[01:55] <sidu> Pelo : how to please
[01:55] <Pelo> nme, what packages ?
[01:55] <bruenig> "then I was getting some packages"
[01:56] <Flannel> sidu: sudo apt-get update, then try again
[01:56] <Pelo> sidu,  menu >sustem > admin > synaptic package manager
[01:56] <fabrizio> hi all
[01:56] <sidu> ok
[01:56] <nme> I dont remember, I think I was installing the Citrix Client
[01:56] <Esteth> randy026: MythTV might be too heavy for you, but it does PVR-ing aswell
[01:56] <Pelo> sidu,  search for and install this package   php5-common
[01:56] <nme> The wierd thing is, when I go to system|pref|sound
[01:57] <nme> I can hear the tones
[01:57] <nme> when I hit test
[01:57] <Flannel> Pelo: he's gotta update.  Dependencies are solved automatically, but he's a few versions back from the repos, old data is causing issues
[01:57] <nme> but other then that, I cant get any audio...
[01:57] <randy026> Esteth, Yeah I think so but I tried installing that and it kills X
[01:57] <sidu> pelo : sudo atp-get install php5-common -- MSG : already installed
[01:57] <IrishDave> hey, has anyone in here tried to run dvd::rip on a core 2 duo machine and know how to make it run in two threads?
[01:57] <orionr> sidu: what are you trying to do?
[01:57] <mauri> I need help in order to configure my webacm in kubuntu 7.10
[01:57] <Pelo> sidu,  sudo apt-get update  then sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:57] <sidu> flannel : sudo apt-get update -- do es not work
[01:57] <IrishDave> i tried a cluster but cudnt get it working
[01:58] <Esteth> randy026: did you install through synaptic? those packages are normally quite stable
[01:58] <Pelo> !sound | nme  review the stuff in this
[01:58] <ubotu> nme  review the stuff in this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:58] <Flannel> sidu: pastebin the errors you get
[01:58] <randy026> Esteth, yeah but im using Gutsy so im sure thats a whole other story ... lol
[01:58] <costas30> hello all
[01:58] <stefano> !Players
[01:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:58] <sidu>  sudo atp-get update
[01:58] <sidu> sudo: atp-get: command not found
[01:58] <orionr> yea
[01:58] <orionr> its apt-get
[01:58] <Pelo> sidu,  apt-get
[01:58] <randy026> I might try to mess with it again
[01:58] <costas30> anyone greek user?
[01:58] <sidu> sorry me err
[01:59] <sidu> :)
[01:59] <orionr> *** ok
[01:59] <Pelo> !gr | costas30
[01:59] <Flannel> !gr | costas30
[01:59] <ubotu> costas30: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[01:59] <orionr> who do you do the astricks?
[01:59] <stefano> sidu, stands for Advanced Package Tool
[01:59] <super-6-1> hello i dont have device manager why?
[01:59] <Esteth> randy026: Ahh, i'm not sure of any other software for watching TV tuner then, sorry :(
[01:59] <recon> orionr: you type "/me action"
[01:59] <Pelo> orion2012_,  to the left of the 1 usualy
[01:59] <stefano> sidu, try out "sudo apt-get moo"
[01:59] <randy026> Thanks anyway! :)
[02:00] <orionr> "/me action"
[02:00] <orionr> "/***" opps
[02:00] <orionr> recon: how ?
[02:00] <recon> orion2012_: don't type the ""
[02:00] <recon> orionr: don't type the ""
[02:00] <mauri> someone read me?
[02:00] <super-6-1> just /me
[02:00] <HardDisk> has anyone had problems certain maps not loading and crashing with medal of honor allied assault on linux?
[02:00] <Pelo> mauri, sure
[02:00] <costas30> is there a program like flashget for ubuntu?
[02:00] <sidu> sudo apt-get install php5-common -- MSG : php5-common is the latest version already :(
[02:01] <HardDisk> costas30: I use downthemall a firefox plugin
[02:01] <mauri> is it possibile to configure my webcam in kubuntu
[02:01] <orionr> sidu: whats the problem with that you have the newest verison
[02:01] <Pelo> sidu did you apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade ?
[02:01] <Pelo> later folks
[02:01] <Flannel> sidu: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:01] <sidu> pelo : yes - successfully did these two
[02:01] <costas30> thanks harddisk
[02:01] <sidu> ubuntu 7.04
[02:01] <HardDisk> np
[02:02] <sidu> my office pc installed php5-gd successfully
[02:02] <super-6-1> anyone know why?
[02:02] <Flannel> sidu: And what errr does installing php5-gd give you?
[02:02] <orionr> cool
[02:02] <mauri> hi
[02:02] <haejuksun> hi
[02:02] <orionr> /mauri: hey
[02:02] <astro76> super-6-1, because that's a windows thing? if you ask what you're actually looking for I'm sure someone can help
[02:03] <super-6-1> astro76. i did
[02:03] <super-6-1> astro76, its i can find my device manager
[02:03] <mauri> orion what Did I?
[02:03] <sidu> Flannel: well it is in chinese -- so i try to  translate as much as i could:
[02:03] <sidu>  php5-gd: : php5-common (= 5.2.1-0ubuntu1)  5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2
[02:03] <sidu> E:
[02:03] <sidu> php5-gd depends on php5-common(...) but 5.2.1-0ubuntu1.2 is to be installed ...E: can not install this package
[02:03] <super-6-1> chinese
[02:03] <bruenig> good ole dependency hell
[02:04] <Flannel> sidu: Pastebin your sources.list.  Those versions... are all wonky
[02:04] <Flannel> bruenig: nah, just not updated.  ubuntu1.4 should be the proper version (for both, actually)
[02:04] <astro76> super-6-1, device manager is windows, what do you need to do?
[02:04] <sidu> flannel: how to get cources.list?
[02:04] <mauri> is there someone that can help me or answer me
[02:04] <super-6-1> oo ok install a eyetoy ^^
[02:04] <d4rkmonkey> super-6-1 device manager sucks.
[02:04] <bruenig> Flannel, but doesn't apt operate on meta data, so wouldn't the meta data at least sync up?
[02:04] <super-6-1> yea i know
[02:04] <Flannel> sidu: /etc/apt/sources.list (in whatever text editor you prfer)
[02:04] <bruenig> whether he had updated or not
[02:05] <orionr> mauri: !ask
[02:05] <super-6-1> its not windows
[02:05] <super-6-1> its on linux too
[02:05] <mauri> i have a problem with my webcam
[02:05] <astro76> super-6-1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasSony
[02:05] <super-6-1> im trying to set one up
[02:05] <d4rkmonkey> super-6-1 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272328
[02:05] <Flannel> bruenig: Not if he's doing something wierd with mixing versions.
[02:05] <super-6-1> i have it
[02:05] <JzaMedia> Looking for OC in New York PM me
[02:05] <JzaMedia> Looking for OC in New York PM me
[02:05] <d4rkmonkey> super-6-1 the link I sent you is  guide.
[02:05] <d4rkmonkey> JzaMedia don't spam.
[02:05] <Jimmey> JzaMedia, OC?
[02:06] <Jimmey> Hey Emma
[02:06] <super-6-1> d4rkmonkey, i useing it now but no sound?
[02:06] <sidu> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36744/
[02:06] <super-6-1> i need sound
[02:07] <mauri> orionr did you read my question?
[02:07] <super-6-1> o well
[02:07] <d4rkmonkey> super-6-1 is there even a microphone on the eyetoy?
[02:07] <orionr> mauri: sorry i dont really know much about webcams
[02:07] <orionr> mauri: i would use google
[02:07] <Flannel> sidu: You'll want to add the security repository.  And maybe feisty-updates too.  It's probably easiest to regenerate your sources.list,
[02:07] <Flannel> !easysource | sidu
[02:07] <ubotu> sidu: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:07] <astro76> !webcam | mauri
[02:07] <ubotu> mauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:08] <super-6-1> d4rkmonkey, yea there is supprisingly it works on windows too its very secitive tho
[02:08] <astro76> mauri, they might be able to better answer in #kubuntu too
[02:08] <Flannel> sidu: oh, I see you have updates.  but you'll want security too
[02:08] <super-6-1> iut picks up any sound made
[02:08] <mauri> orionr thanks i will try
[02:08] <Jimmey> I have a 7.1 capable sound card - If I plug some speakers into one of the other jacks on the card, should that work? Or do they all need to be plugged into one woofer?
[02:08] <Gm4n> what command-line partitioner does ubuntu use?
[02:09] <Gm4n> erm, correction, text based
[02:09] <sidu> Flannel: i was using optus source -- can not get my php5-gd -- so i just updated my source to iinet -- no good ? i m dummy - no idea what source means
[02:09] <bruenig> Gm4n, use whichever one you want
[02:09] <Flannel> !repository | sidu
[02:09] <ubotu> sidu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:10] <Gm4n> bruenig: during the ubuntu installer, around step 7
[02:10] <Gm4n> I'm wondering which partitioner it is, so I can google how to use it ;-)
[02:10] <bruenig> Gm4n, haven't memorized the steps, are you on graphical?
[02:10] <Szego> Does anyone know if any version of ubuntu server supports a PowerPC G4 processor?
[02:10] <Flannel> Szego: Edgy does officially.  Dapper does too.  Feisty does unofficially
[02:10] <mattwoodyard> django
[02:11] <Gm4n> bruenig: no, text-based
[02:11] <bruenig> Gm4n, probably parted
[02:11] <Flannel> Gm4n: Might be easier to just ask specific questions here.  What you need help with?
[02:11] <mauri> hi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?
[02:11] <Szego> I just wanted to setup something at home for me to SSH into, do you think Feisty is a wise choice?
[02:11] <Gm4n> Flannel & bruenig: the goal is to make a macbook dual-boot fiesty
[02:11] <sidu> Flannel: a bit reading ..
[02:11] <octoberdan> Why wouldn't sudo follow a symbolic link that is followed when I run the command without sudo? http://pastebin.ca/686454
[02:12] <Gm4n> so I'm trying to delete the "windows" partition created by boot camp (apple's partitioner), and replace it with an ext3 and a swap partition
[02:12] <sidu> Flannel: australia got 3 sources, my office pc use pacific -- and it damaged my mysql db -- so i m not going to use it again
[02:12] <octoberdan> "/opt/jruby" is a symbolic link to /opt/jrub.version
[02:12] <rockets> What advantage is there to using UUIDs when I don't have a lot of disks, like on a laptop for example
[02:12] <Flannel> sidu: All repositories have the same files
[02:13] <sidu> Flannel: shall i change to optus again? it took a while to update again :(
[02:14] <PiRoMaNo> MrObvious You here?
[02:14] <Flannel> sidu: you don't need to change at all.  Use whatever works.  And actually, you can just copy your first two lines from the paste, change the feisty to feisty-security, and be done with it.
[02:14] <nme> ok, well i got my sound working.. For some reason it switched Sound cards on me...
[02:15] <nme> Next question!
[02:15] <PiRoMaNo> Do i need an Antivirus on Linux?
[02:15] <Jimmey> !antivirus
[02:15] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[02:15] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:15] <nme> Anyone have any luck with dual monitors, a wide screen and a normal aspect?
[02:15] <CoasterMaster> PiRoMaNo: not really, but you can check out clamav if you'd like
[02:15] <PiRoMaNo>  ***** Thank You *****
[02:15] <nichos> hi all - gaim question - only when using aol/aim the imput box is all black and i can't see what im typing. Any ideas?
[02:15] <booster_> can anyone tell me were i can find a list of basic commands for terminal......such as sudo  ???
[02:15] <nme> nichos, change the background color?
[02:16] <mauri> hi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?
[02:16] <astro76> !terminal | booster_
[02:16] <ubotu> booster_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:16] <PiRoMaNo> CoasterMaster: There isn't a download for ubuntu
[02:16] <TimmUbuNtu> hi i cant run xgl on my ubuntu
[02:16] <nichos> nme oh, that's lame - it was filling the whole box so i didn't even think of that:)
[02:16] <nichos> nme thanks.
[02:16] <CoasterMaster> PiRoMaNo: sudo apt-get install clamav
[02:17] <super-6-1> sorry pc restarted
[02:17] <super-6-1> thats not working
[02:17] <digitalspaghetti> i have php5-gd installed, whats the easiest way to enable it?
[02:17] <CoasterMaster> PiRoMaNo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#ClamAV_AntiVirus_Server
[02:17] <booster_> thanks
[02:17] <PiRoMaNo> CoasterMaster: The sudo apt-get install clamav Worked :), THank you
[02:17] <sidu> Flannel:  you mean:
[02:17] <sidu> deb http://mirror.optus.net/ubuntu/ feisty-security main restricted
[02:17] <sidu> deb-src http://mirror.optus.net/ubuntu/ feisty-security main restricted
[02:18] <mauri> hi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?
[02:18] <wolferine> evening
[02:18] <sidu> Flannel: ?
[02:18] <wolferine> mauri, specifics please?
[02:18] <sidu> digitalspaghetti: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:19] <mauri> i use kubuntu 7.10 but the webcam is not reognized...../dev/video is not being created
[02:19] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:19] <astro76> !gutsy | mauri
[02:19] <ubotu> mauri: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:19] <wolferine> mauri, the type of webcam would help immensely
[02:20] <mauri> the problem was also in ubuntu 6.1...7.04
[02:21] <wolferine> good luck mauri
[02:21] <mauri> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. M-UV69a Optical Wheel Mouse
[02:21] <mauri> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[02:21] <mauri> wolferine Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[02:22] <wolferine> mauri, what are you using as a guide to install the driver?
[02:22] <mauri> wolferine i installed gspca
[02:23] <wolferine> mauri, is that what the device requires?
[02:23] <wolferine> or is it supported by that driver ?
[02:23] <mauri> wolferine i don't know...surely it is what kernel required
[02:24] <wolferine> mauri, ill ask again then, what are you using as reference for setting up the driver ?
[02:24] <Flannel> sidu: yes
[02:24] <sidu> Flannel: ok -- i m updating ...
[02:24] <mauri> wolferine i use a guide found in internet
[02:25] <nathan> where are the icons stored?
[02:25] <wolferine> mauri, which, give a URL
[02:25] <mauri> wolferine this guide said to istall gspca module
[02:25] <sidu> nathan: /usr/share/icons
[02:25] <Flannel> sidu: you should get this version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/web/php5-gd
[02:25] <JamesG> Anyone know if it's possible to drag windows between two monitors using Twinview? I know I used to do this when I used Xinerama.
[02:25] <nathan> thanks. can you explain why it's in that directory?
[02:25] <JamesG> Sorry, drag maximized windows
[02:25] <mauri> wolferine do you have a link that can help me
[02:25] <CountX> how do i change the boot options permanently
[02:25] <Esteth> JamesG: I'm doing it, but it might be compiz-fusion doing it for me
[02:26] <Flannel> CountX: edit your menu.lst
[02:26] <mauri> wolferine or do you know why (dev(video is not created
[02:26] <wolferine> mauri, if you dont reply to my questions, I will be unable to assist you
[02:26] <PiRoMaNo> Anyone know how to the the cube thing?
[02:26] <sidu> Flannel: what ubuntu version you use ? 8.4?
[02:26] <wolferine> good luck mauri
[02:26] <CountX> Flannel, it wont let me save
[02:26] <Flannel> sidu: 6.06
[02:26] <mcoolio> jrib, thanks for your help I manged to get my keyboard working again :-)
[02:26] <nathan> is it shared by different users or ?
[02:26] <JamesG> Esteth: Hm. I'm running beryl.. so it's possible I suppose
[02:26] <mauri> wolferine my english is not so good
[02:26] <sidu> Flannel: what? why not 7.4 or 7.10
[02:26] <Flannel> CountX: You need to use sudo to edit it.  (sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst) or gksu "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:27] <mauri> wolferine what you are asking me.....do you want the link?
[02:27] <Flannel> CountX: and, you shouldn't change the lines themselves, change the kopt line (Dont uncomment it, just add to the end)
[02:27] <nme> -=-=-=- Anyone had any luck with dual screens?
[02:27] <winbond> !pastebin
[02:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:27] <wolferine> !anyone | nme
[02:27] <ubotu> nme: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:27] <etale> hi all: audio has seemed to stop working for video in mozilla.... this seemed to happen when i was loading several clips from cnn at once.  youtube has no audio now as well... even after restarting the computer. any hints?
[02:27] <PiRoMaNo> Does anyone know how to do that cube thing?
[02:27] <Flannel> !effects | PiRoMaNo
[02:27] <ubotu> PiRoMaNo: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <sidu> Flannel: is 6.6 better than 7.04 ?
[02:28] <sidu> Flannel: is 6.10 better than 7.04 ?
[02:28] <mauri> wolferine if it is the link you want ...it is http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[02:28] <wolferine> !better | sidu
[02:28] <ubotu> sidu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:28] <Flannel> sidu: Depends on what your definition of  better is
[02:28] <sidu> ok - i m dummy
[02:29] <CountX> Flannel, how do i save the file using nano?
[02:29] <sidu> i m click on the wrong button -- and update the source now - took for a while ...
[02:29] <Flannel> CountX: ^O (^ is ctrl)
[02:29] <jrib> mcoolio: np, glad you sorted it out
[02:29] <mauri> wolferine are you still there?
[02:29] <glenn> anyone know how to get PSP and ubuntu to work nice? It sees it when mounthed but says I have no space left when I have over 1 gig free!!??
[02:29] <Flannel> CountX: and then ^X to close
[02:30] <CountX> Flannel, thanks dude
[02:30] <robsta> how can i change my system fonts ?
[02:30] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:30] <CountX> Flannel, how do i mount ntfs drives?
[02:30] <winbond> can someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/
[02:31] <mauri> hi all, I've a problem with my webcam....someone can help me please?
[02:31] <neramos> hey, when i try to save the files to this location i get "Permission denied" although i did this "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" ; any ideas ???
[02:31] <Flannel> !ntfs | CountX
[02:31] <ubotu> CountX: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:31] <wolferine> mauri, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[02:31] <Flannel> neramos: sudo only works for the iptables-save, not the >.  You need to use tee:  sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.up.rules
[02:32] <neramos> thanks Flannel
[02:33] <mauri> wolferine i had already read this list but my webcam is VIMICRO http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[02:33] <mauri> wolferine i had already read this list but my webcam is VIMICRO 0ac8:307b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[02:33] <wolferine> mauri, which is not listed
[02:33] <mauri> wolferine do yuo think that it could be the reason
[02:34] <Netham45> >.<
[02:34] <Netham45> wrong button
[02:34] <wolferine> mauri, I doubt you need someone else to tell you that
[02:35] <mauri> wolferine if i well understood i have to buy another webcam?
[02:35] <whileimhere> Hi I am looking for a MAC like icon bar for the bottom of my screen. I do not have Compiz or Beryle capabilities. Are there any options?
[02:35] <wolferine> mauri, maybe google your own camera?
[02:35] <nathan> how do I make my usb drive be called something aside from 'disk'
[02:35] <Pelo> whileimhere, google for avant window navigator
[02:35] <Gaming1> !VMware
[02:35] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:35] <mauri> wolferine sorry i dont understand your question
[02:36] <Pelo> nathan, change the name of the volume
[02:36] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[02:36] <wolferine> mauri, google your own camera
[02:36] <whileimhere> Pelo doesnt the AWM require Compiz?
[02:36] <Pelo> whileimhere, no
[02:36] <Pelo> whileimhere,  at least it didnT' use to
[02:36] <nathan> Pelo: can you tell me how to do that? I don't see that option in properties
[02:36] <CountX> Flannel, i cant mount them because i have them in fstab?
[02:37] <mauri> wolferine what the "google" means
[02:37] <Pelo> nathan, I don'T think it is in the properties,  I'm honestly not sure how you would do this in linux,  it was easy enought in windows
[02:37] <jplove71> Pelo, I got my dual display to work.  Downside is that Compiz doesn't like it and won't run.
[02:37] <jplove71> mauri, Google = www.google.com
[02:37] <wolferine> good luck mauri
[02:37] <Pelo> jplove71, did you talk to the ppl in #compiz-fusion about it ?
[02:38] <nathan> Pelo: a lot of things are easy in windows
[02:38] <neramos> Flannel, sorry m8t but its not working...it just stays like it is and not even let me into the command again
[02:38] <Pelo> nathan, but a lot more things are easy in  linux
[02:38] <jplove71> Pelo,  Didn't know that channel existed.  hehehe  Will go there now and ask.  Thanks.
[02:38] <nathan> Pelo: one time this guy at work easily downloaded a few viruses without even trying
[02:39] <mauri> wolferine thanks even if i dont understand which is your suggestion if buy a new one or not
[02:39] <winbond> can someone look at this compiling log of vmmon module and tell me what the problem is ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36748/
[02:39] <nathan> hey I'm using this icon theme and everything is good but the firefox icon on my launch bar, how can I change that one
[02:40] <wolferine> mauri I can no longer assist you
[02:40] <Pelo> nathan, right click the icon, properties
[02:40] <Noah0504> I've been a long supporter of OGG Vorbis for awhile, but now I've decided to switch back to MP3 for good compatablity with my iPod (and I soon plan on getting a Mac).  In Banshee the LAME settings go from 0-8 (8 being the best).  However, they should go from 0-8 (0 being the best).  I need to have the same settings with SoundConverter.  How can I do this.
[02:40] <nathan> Pelo: doesn't have anything about icons
[02:40] <mauri> wolferine Made I something worng?
[02:40] <Pelo> nathan,  see the icon in the properties dialog ?  clicky clicky
[02:41] <nathan> Pelo: doh ><
[02:41] <DeadLock> can i format NTFS from the commandlin
[02:41] <DeadLock> NTFS to ext3
[02:42] <Pelo> DeadLock,  DeadLock   try parted
[02:42] <neramos> Anyone has idea bout Iptables ? Can save the iptables-save to etc/iptables.up.rules with this command / Both wont work, "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" and "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules"; Why not ??
[02:44] <Mexel> Jack_sparrow arround?
[02:44] <DeadLock> so what would i put if my NTFS device is /dev/sdc1
[02:44] <vocx> neramos, the redirection > is not done as root.
[02:44] <SyntraX> se3n
[02:44] <cory_> hmmm
[02:44] <astro76> neramos, do this: sudo sh -c "sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rule"
[02:44] <cory_> this is so slowww
[02:44] <Gaming1> Hello guys, I am using dual boot with ubuntu and xp. Can I configure evolution and thunderbird in such a way that they are automatically synchronised?
[02:44] <Pelo> DeadLock, it will be the same as it is now,  type blkid to see the various partitons
[02:45] <Pelo> cory_, what is slow ?
[02:45] <evri2|purepwnage> Guys i installed apt-build.I have AMD Turion X2 64 CPU.Which architecture should i choose? K8 or athlon64?
[02:45] <neramos> astro76, ill try and see what happens
[02:45] <cory_> im using an emulator to run ubuntu
[02:45] <Pelo> Gaming1,  why do you want both ?
[02:45] <DeadLock> I want to turn my drive (/dev/sdc1) from a ntfs partition into a ext3.
[02:45] <nathan> this is weird, i extracted some icons I downloaded but when I click on the icon and try to change it, they don't show up in there
[02:45] <Pelo> DeadLock,  you do realise this will wipe it clean right ?
[02:45] <vocx> evri2|purepwnage, are you running the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[02:46] <MrObvious> DeadLock: Do you need to back up data?
[02:46] <evri2|purepwnage> vocx: 32
[02:46] <Pelo> DeadLock,  you'll have to delete your ntfs partiton and make a ext3 partiton in the empty space ,  man parted for the various commands
[02:47] <Gaming1> Pelo: well, I use thunderbird in windows so, if I am in XP and want to read my mail in evolution....
[02:47] <baktaah> Anyone that got a 8600m card, and that has managed to get it to work in 3d?
[02:47] <vocx> evri2|purepwnage, K8 then. Although I'm not sure what apt-build does?
[02:47] <neramos> astro76, cool thanks this worked
[02:47] <Pelo> Gaming1, you can have thunderbird in ubuntu as well
[02:48] <sasimon19> where should I go for grub help (or partitions)
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> mex
[02:49] <sasimon19> #partitions
[02:49] <baktaah> Anyone with a nvidia 8600 card?
[02:49] <AndrewB> sasimon19: #grub  maybe?
[02:49] <Pelo> nathan still around ?
[02:49] <nathan> yeah
[02:49] <Pelo> nathan, http://www.debuntu.org/device-partition-labeling
[02:49] <nathan> icon not showing up in menu
[02:50] <Gaming1> Pelo: Yes I can but If I am in XP and suddenly I feel a need to read my mail stored in evolution, without restarting I want to access my mail....
[02:50] <sasimon19> Its been a while since I've irc'd
[02:50] <sasimon19> how do I change room?
[02:50] <Pelo> Gaming1, the point was to stop using evolution for emails and to use thunderbird in both OSs
[02:50] <d4rkmonkey> sasimon19 /j #channel
[02:51] <Pelo> sasimon19,  /join #channelname
[02:51] <sasimon19> duh... join... thanx
[02:51] <d4rkmonkey> or /join...
[02:51] <winbond> sasimon19, whats the problem with partitions
[02:51] <dontrell> I'm trying to find the driver for a lexmark x1290 all in one printer for ubuntu 7.04. any ideas?
[02:51] <tobias_> I have by wireless setup to "roaming" so that I get the list of APs in the panel applet.  When i start up, it looks like the card successfully associates when the last know AP, but I don't get an IP address.  I have to manually associate to another network (even one that doesn't exist is fine) and then reassociate to the real network in order to get an IP via DHCP correctly.  Any ideas?
[02:51] <tobias_> by = my
[02:52] <Pelo> dontrell, lexmark are not very well supported in linux , sorry
[02:52] <sasimon19> well I installed vista onto a new partition (b/c I didn't want it to overwrite xp... aka vista blows)
[02:52] <sasimon19> but I had to use super grub disc to rewrite the mbr
[02:52] <nathan> thanks
[02:53] <CharlesBukowski_> 06de06e906de   http://wannaknow.de   06de06e906de
[02:53] <sasimon19> during the process I wrote a boot idk what you call it to the beginning of the vista partition, and to what I thought was the xp partition...
[02:53] <sasimon19> but it was actually a 110GB partition on another hard drive that I just use for storage
[02:53] <Pelo> sasimon19, any point to this ?
[02:53] <sasimon19> yes
[02:53] <CountX> still cant get my ntfs drive mounted
[02:54] <sasimon19> the data is still on there but I need to know how to make xp or linux read it... it doesn't read file format, or free space on the drive, linux won't mount it
[02:54] <Reid> FUCK!
[02:54] <MrObvious> !ohmy | reid
[02:54] <ubotu> reid: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:54] <usser> tsk tsk tsk
[02:54] <sasimon19> CountX, are you using a live cd?
[02:54] <CountX> no
[02:54] <CountX> sasimon19, "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[02:54] <CountX>        missing codepage or other error
[02:54] <CountX> "
[02:55] <tck> i have a belkin N1 wireless usb adapter, it used to work with Feisty, but one day the laptop shut off (power ran out)
[02:55] <Reid> F*CK!
[02:55] <sasimon19> CountX, it works in xp or w/e?
[02:55] <Pelo> sasimon19, try performing a windows repair install for xp , should retain your data
[02:55] <MrObvious> CountX: What is the exact command you are putting into the terminal?
[02:55] <MrObvious> !ops
[02:55] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:55] <tck> and now when i plug it back in, the light does not come on or its not detected
[02:55] <CountX> sasimon19, IDK i havent used it in forever
[02:55] <jrib> Reid: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[02:55] <sasimon19> Pelo, not if it's not the xp partition
[02:55] <Pelo> CountX, can't get it mounted or can't write to it ?
[02:55] <CountX> MrObvious, sudo mount -a
[02:55] <Reid> YES
[02:55] <sasimon19> CountX, well if xp can read it that tells you it isn't the same problem I'm having
[02:55] <Reid> Ubuntu is FUCK!
[02:56] <MrObvious> Thanks.
[02:56] <CountX> MrObvious, ive edited fstab to mount only one of my drivers
[02:56] <Pelo> sasimon19,what is the FS of that partiton ?
[02:56] <MrObvious> What is the line in fstab CountX ?
[02:56] <sasimon19> Pelo, it's on a different hard drive than xp OS and in xp it wont do anything but reformat
[02:56] <NaNO2x> question, i've changed all my text to white on my system however the cursor is still black, is there any way to fix that?
[02:56] <sasimon19> Pelo, NTFS
[02:56] <winbond> sasimon19, i think u gonna have to use some data recovery tools
[02:57] <CountX> MrObvious, "/dev/sda1 /media/windows/c ntfs marcel,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0"
[02:57] <ubuntu09> anyone good with routers?
[02:57] <MrObvious> /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb2 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[02:57] <MrObvious> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[02:57] <MrObvious> That's what I have CountX
[02:57] <sasimon19> winbond, I used a program in xp called file scavanger... it read all my data... but the problem is I have no place to put 100GB of info
[02:57] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: I am, but just ask your question.
[02:57] <Pelo> sasimon19, I agree with winbond  I also think that your issue would be better handled by  ##windows
[02:57] <sasimon19> I have a screen shot of a disk management tool in xp
[02:58] <Pelo> MrObvious, isnt, it suppose to be  fuse instead of ntfs-3g ?
[02:58] <ubuntu09> mrobvious - i have 2 laptops and only 1 compter gets a connection at a time
[02:58] <MrObvious> CountX: Of course I have ntfs-3g installed lol.
[02:58] <sasimon19> well the problem was cause by super grub disc so I thought it could be reversed with something of the sort
[02:58] <Pelo> MrObvious, nvm
[02:58] <sasimon19> the screenshot: http://images.4mstephen.com/screenshot_09062007-2356.jpg
[02:58] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: Is this using Ubuntu? Does it work in Winblows okay?
[02:58] <ubuntu09> its works with either but not both
[02:58] <MrObvious> sasimon19: You'll need to reinstall your MBR. IDK how with Winblows tho.
[02:58] <wolferine> hmm, how can I check the root password, not the sudo password ?
[02:59] <Pelo> sasimon19,  what does supergrub have to do with a storage partiton ?
[02:59] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: Odd.
[02:59] <MrObvious> wolferine: You can reset it with sudo passwd root I think.
[02:59] <ubuntu09> mrobvious is thet because my isp only has me down for 1 compter
[02:59] <heatxsink> anyone around that has installed ubuntu on a PPC?
[02:59] <wolferine> guess I would have to reset, as it would be encrypted
[02:59] <MrObvious> Pelo: I think they lost their MBR.
[02:59] <sasimon19> MrObvious, I reinstalled my mbr.. it was at the beginning of the partition that I accidentally installed grub on a non-bootable drive
[02:59] <CountX> MrObvious, how do i add the ro, read only, oprtion to the fstab line?
[02:59] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: I don't think so. What IP does the active computer get? What's the first number?
[02:59] <sasimon19> Pelo, I used it to replace the mbr after vista skrewed it up (I knew the problem was coming)
[03:00] <MrObvious> CountX: Google is what I'd suggest lol.
[03:00] <wolferine> thanks Obvious
[03:00] <Pelo> MrObvious, it's not a boot partition , shouldn'T matter
[03:00] <ubuntu09> 68
[03:00] <sasimon19> Pelo, but then I skrewed up when I installed a partition
[03:00] <MrObvious> Pelo: Oh well :p.
[03:00] <sasimon19> Pelo, not partition... a boot thing to a partition
[03:00] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: You aren't getting NAT working right then.
[03:00] <Pelo> sasimon19, i still think ppl in ##windows would be better equiped to tell you how to recover a ntfs partition
[03:00] <sasimon19> did you look at the screen shot?
[03:01] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: You'll need to buy a NAT capable router.
[03:01] <ubuntu09> NAT?
[03:01] <sasimon19> alrite I'll try
[03:01] <sasimon19> thanx though
[03:01] <Pelo> sasimon19,  I thought the problem was that you coudln't mount it to recover the data
[03:01] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: Yeah. Your IP range needs to start with 10, 172.16, or 192.168
[03:01] <vocx> !root > wolferine
[03:01] <wolferine> sweet
[03:01] <CountX> MrObvious, i cant find anything
[03:01] <wolferine> vocx, that was unnecessary :)
[03:01] <MrObvious> CountX: Try googling ntfs fstab
[03:01] <ubuntu09> mine is a linsys 5 port
[03:01] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g | CountX
[03:01] <ubotu> CountX: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:02] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: It's probably a switch.
[03:02] <CountX> i went there
[03:02] <CountX> no luck
[03:02] <CountX> tells me my drives are currups
[03:02] <Pelo> CountX,  jst install ntfs-3g,  andt the -config package and then run the config applet from applications > system tools
[03:02] <ubuntu09> mrobvious i remember my xp showed me 192 as ip
[03:03] <ubuntu09> before the router
[03:03] <MrObvious> CountX: There is a way to force it to mount with 3g if "corrupted" and you know for sure it's not especially if you just had an unclean shutdown.
[03:03] <sasimon19> CountX, thats why I said to see what windows does with it first if you can
[03:03] <tigran> Hi. Has anyone here set up code::blocks successfully/
[03:03] <winbond> Tigge, whats that
[03:03] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: Hmm. I can't say I guess. The IP address you have now is a 68.x.y.z number right?
[03:04] <wolferine> you may be suprised, but at some point in a person's life of Ubuntu, they may require a root password
[03:04] <winbond> tigran, whats that
[03:04] <ubuntu09> yes mr o
[03:04] <tigran> winbond: a compiler
[03:04] <bruenig> wolferine, shhhh, they will find you and kill you for mentioning that
[03:04] <tigran> winbond: well an IDe
[03:04] <tigran> http://www.codeblocks.org/
[03:04] <wolferine> bruenig, ignorance is bliss?
[03:04] <ubuntu09> mrobvious do i need special software?. the router didnt have any
[03:04] <wolferine> :)
[03:05] <winbond> Tigge, ok, just curious, dont know anything about it though
[03:05] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: What is your default gateway? Is it a 192 or a 68?
[03:05] <ubuntu09> 68
[03:05] <tigran> winbond: i get this message codeblocks: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file:
[03:05] <bruenig> code blocks is ugly as hell
[03:05] <winbond> tigran, , ok, just curious, dont know anything about it though
[03:05] <CountX> i played with ntfs-3g and got it with -o ro
[03:05] <tigran> ok
[03:05] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: I'd try buying a new router myself. My recommendation would be a LInksys WRT54G and modding it to DD-WRT.
[03:05] <winbond> tigran, sry
[03:05] <MrObvious> CountX: Good.
[03:05] <ubuntu09> 68 on ubuntu i dont know about xp
[03:05] <tigran> np
[03:05] <janux-xmind> does someone know how to use virtualbox?
[03:06] <tigran> winbond: np
[03:06] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: But just for kicks and giggles, what happens if you load your browser and type <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:06] <Pelo> janux-xmind,  I think there is a #vb or something maby #vbox
[03:06] <ubuntu09> let me check
[03:07] <nickrud> ttr
[03:07] <spidermanakos> i
[03:07] <spidermanakos> hi
[03:07] <MrObvious> nickrud: ttr to you too.
[03:07] <MrObvious> !hi | spidermanakos
[03:07] <ubotu> spidermanakos: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:07] <nickrud> Hey, MrObvious
[03:07] <cheebz88> does anyone know why bankers wear those green visors
[03:07] <MrObvious> Lol the bot puts it so eloquently.
[03:07] <MrObvious> nickrud: Hi.
[03:07] <nickrud> wrong window :)
[03:07] <Pelo> janux-xmind, I don'T allow private msg please talk to me in the channel
[03:07] <ubuntu09> mrobvious nothing is happening
[03:07] <janux-xmind> I just want to share a folder on my debian host with virtualized windows xp
[03:07] <spidermanakos> all have ubuntu?
[03:08] <ubuntu09> trying to load
[03:08] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: It sounds like you might have to buy a new router to do this.
[03:08] <Excalibas> hello, i have xp and knoppinx instalation on one hd i want to change knoppix for ubuntu, can i just format the knoppix install and run the ubuntu cd?
[03:08] <spidermanakos> my love is knoppix
[03:08] <Pelo> spidermanakos,  this is the #ubuntu channel
[03:08] <ubuntu09> mrobvious- i have a linksys nh1005-wm from walmart
[03:08] <spidermanakos> can i ask you something?
[03:08] <Pelo> spidermanakos, just ask
[03:08] <DeadLock> ALright. I tried 'sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1' and i was trying to reformat m NTFS to EXT3 and all the guide i find, nothing seems to work. It still keeps showing up as NTFS. How can i format it.
[03:08] <eyec0n> omg... for the first time my d/l speed went over 1m/b :) :) :) sweetnes
[03:08] <MrObvious> Excalibas: Yes. Or you could even resize the hard drive and install Ubuntu, Knoppix, and XP.
[03:09] <spidermanakos> how to install bluetooth headset to listen music?
[03:09] <joshritger> I am having trouble getting my ubuntu install to start up. Last time I used it it seemed laggy and when I shut it down it locked up. I started it up a few hrs later and now it hangs at the grub boot loader. Any Idea what to look for or do to fix this. I am currently on windows trying to get this fixed
[03:09] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: That's only a hub.
[03:09] <MrObvious> !bluetooth | spidermanakos
[03:09] <ubotu> spidermanakos: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:09] <drmagic> hello
[03:09] <MrObvious> joshritger: Does it work in Winblows?
[03:09] <ubuntu09> mrobvious a hub wont do it
[03:09] <drmagic> anybody here?
[03:09] <eyec0n> I'm just happy I can download the ubuntu cd in 6 minutes
[03:09] <Pelo> spidermanakos,  I thnk you better chek in the forum  for bluethooth headset   www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:09] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: No.
[03:09] <MrObvious> !hi | drmagic
[03:09] <ubotu> drmagic: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:09] <spidermanakos> what?
[03:09] <janux-xmind> can someone help me to share a folder on my debian host with virtualized windows xp
[03:09] <Pelo> drmagic, no this channel is completely empty
[03:09] <TooNamI> hello i need a bit of help.. I was hoping to make k9copy's preview a bit faster by enabling the opengl option but then it crashed.. It only works using sudo    Is there a way to reset the configuration for the application? I already tried to do apt-get remove but that didnt remove the defaults
[03:09] <joshritger> MrObious: does what work, windows loads fine
[03:10] <ubuntu09> actually i though i did buy a router. i didnt notice it said hub on the box lol
[03:10] <MrObvious> joshritger: Winblows. If it didn't then I would suspect hardware.
[03:10] <spidermanakos> how to install bluetooth headset to listen music?
[03:10] <Pelo> spidermanakos,  goto  www.ubuntuforums.org and search for  bluetooth headset
[03:10] <Excalibas> MrObvious: can i use the same swap or i have to mate 2 more partitions for that?
[03:10] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: Nope.
[03:10] <pakora> helllo
[03:10] <spidermanakos> how to install bluetooth headset to listen music? in Feisty
[03:10] <drmagic> wow , here is very buzy  ^_^
[03:10] <ubuntu09> mrobvious thanks for your help
[03:10] <MrObvious> Excalibas: You can use the same. You might even be able to keep the same /home but I could be wrong. Probably to be safe you shouldn't.
[03:10] <Pelo> jplove71, sweden ?
[03:10] <MrObvious> drmagic: Yup.
[03:10] <pakora> i cant play windows media or real player files :(
[03:10] <joshritger> WIndows loads fine, I haven't even loaded it in a month. I hope to get ubuntu back running
[03:10] <MrObvious> ubuntu09: YW.
[03:11] <drmagic> Yup?
[03:11] <MrObvious> !wma | pakora
[03:11] <ubotu> pakora: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <tigran> winbond: i got it haha, I'm blind and dint see they had a forum
[03:11] <spidermanakos> i need little help
[03:11] <Pelo> spidermanakos,   the best place to get info like that is in the forum ,  it is too specific fo get answers like that in this channel
[03:11] <Excalibas> cool, thanks a lot
[03:11] <pakora> how do i view websites that stream windows media files?
[03:11] <eyec0n> tell the porn sites to use free formats :/
[03:11] <vocx> !repeat | spidermanakos
[03:11] <ubotu> spidermanakos: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:11] <darwin81> I'm trying to apply ownership of all the files under my home folder to me. I go "gksudo nautilus", I find my home folder, right click it, go to Properties then Permissions and make sure everything is set right and hit "Apply permissions to enclosed files" but some of the files are still owned by root.
[03:11] <Pelo> spidermanakos, did you see what I told you ?
[03:11] <jplove71> Pelo, No.  USA.
[03:11] <oxeimo1> does anyone know what how I can get the OpenGL Python bindings to make 3d-chess work?
[03:11] <faileas> eyec0n: lol
[03:11] <spidermanakos> yes
[03:11] <wolferine> I want to add modprobe quickcam as a startup app, which file can I add that into, so when I login to gnome, it runs ?
[03:11] <pakora> so i cant view those porn sites anymore? fuck ubuntu
[03:11] <nickrud> !3dchess
[03:11] <eyec0n> lol
[03:11] <ubotu> If you are trying to enable 3d effects in the GNOME chess game, please see https://launchpad.net/bugs/71593
[03:11] <MrObvious> pakora: Try that link ubotu posted. You'll need to get formats like that to work.
[03:12] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[03:12] <MrObvious> pakora: And watch the language please.
[03:12] <AndrewB> !ohmy | pakora
[03:12] <ubotu> pakora: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:12] <pakora> thank you obvious and i apologize
[03:12] <joshritger> does anyone know how to add ubuntu to the windows boot loader?
[03:12] <eyec0n> pakora, it works you just have to download some extra stuff
[03:12] <BlankDenim> joshritger: you mean, how to get ubuntu back?
[03:12] <MrObvious> !abuse | nickrud
[03:12] <ubotu> nickrud: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:12] <BlankDenim> !recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[03:12] <nickrud> rflol
[03:12] <joshritger> yes, i can't get grub to load
[03:12] <BlankDenim> !recoverubuntu
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recoverubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <BlankDenim> !recover
[03:12] <Flannel> !grub | BlankDenim
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <ubotu> BlankDenim: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:12] <nickrud> Pelo, you're getting me in trouble!
[03:12] <MrObvious> BlankDenim: Stop that! GRRRRRRRR!
[03:12] <BlankDenim> Flannel: ...to joshritger thank you
[03:12] <wolferine> I want to add modprobe quickcam as a startup app, which file can I add that into, so when I login to gnome, it runs ?
[03:13] <Pelo> joshritger, I think google is your freind on that question, the best we can do here is to tell you how to add windows to grub
[03:13] <MrObvious> BlankDenim: If you want to search factoids do a /query ubotu
[03:13] <BlankDenim> MrObvious: those used to work back when I was a regular here, and I know I could do that
[03:13] <BlankDenim> joshritger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:13] <BlankDenim> MrObvious: I was just trying to help someone, for a change
[03:13] <MrObvious> wolferine: It's something to do with /etc/rc.d or something like that.
[03:13] <wolferine> thanks
[03:13] <vocx> wolferine, I think /etc/modules
[03:13] <MrObvious> BlankDenim: GRRRRRRRRR! You bad person. You'll get banned just for that.
[03:13] <joshritger> I didn't loose grub after an install though, they are on seperate drives with seperate boot loaders and mbr's. I pick the drive i want to boot from
[03:13] <jplove71> Pelo, One of my speedtest results ---> http://www.speedtest.net/result/180814256.png
[03:14] <MrObvious> BlankDenim: Also you will owe me $100,000 now!
[03:14] <nickrud> wolferine: quickcam is an app?  system->prefs->sessions
[03:14] <wolferine> nickrud, nope, that doesnt help
[03:14] <nickrud> wolferine: so, this is a module?
[03:14] <wolferine> nickrud, I got it, thanks
[03:14] <DeadLock> Is there a a package that would install a WEBGUI that monitors differnt stats from a LAMP server.
[03:14] <nickrud> /etc/modules ;)
[03:14] <WaxyFresh> hi im compiling my own kernel for fun.im trying to follow these directions:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56835 but my computer wont boot under vesa its running fglrx right now what should i do?
[03:15] <MrObvious> DeadLock: I think there is but I don't remember what.
[03:15] <Pelo>  / z-line jplove71
[03:15] <TooNamI> Where would i find the default's for an application? I am needing to change the opengl option for k9copy ?
[03:15] <eyec0n> pelo are you using 56k or something... you seem to be a speed hater
[03:15] <MrObvious> lol pelo
[03:15] <DeadLock> What about help formatting NTFS to ext3 :-)
[03:15] <nonewmsgs> good sirs: i just installed xfce for my ubuntu.  i like it as well as gnome but i would like it to autostart my wirelesscard
[03:15] <MrObvious> WaxyFresh: No clue. :\
[03:15] <andrewL> anyone know how to set up a ftp site?
[03:15] <Pelo> eyec0n,  I don't hate  speed , I hate mine
[03:15] <MrObvious> WaxyFresh: Have you tried changing xorg.conf?
[03:15] <oxeimo1> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get and synaptic?
[03:15] <eyec0n> yeah, I remember the days :(
[03:16] <nickrud> DeadLock: unmount the device, and use cfdisk to change the type of partition; once that's done, sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/<partition>
[03:16] <monknight> can anyone give me some help with my sound card its a realtek ixp sb400?
[03:16] <MrObvious> oxeimo1: apt-get comes from Debian. Synaptic is a GUI. Aptitude is an  update from apt-get I guess.
[03:16] <nameless> hi
[03:16] <MrObvious> !hi nameless
[03:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi nameless - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <MrObvious> Err.
[03:16] <MrObvious> !hi | nameless
[03:16] <oxeimo1> ahh I see. Thanks :-D
[03:16] <ubotu> nameless: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:16] <MrObvious> lol
[03:16] <nameless> oO
[03:16] <nameless> lol
[03:16] <vocx> oxeimo1, read their manual pages "man aptitude", they are frontends to apt-get
[03:16] <nickrud> oxeimo1: aptitude and synaptic are nearly indistiquishable; apt-get handles removing unused dependencies a bit differently
[03:17] <DeadLock> nick
[03:17] <nameless> someone knows how to setup a mic on ubuntu ?
[03:17] <WaxyFresh> MrObvious: yes i changes gflrx? to vesa and it wouldent boot,im useing a ati raedeon card
[03:17] <DeadLock> nickrud: It says cann't open disk drive. when i do the cfdisk command
[03:17] <goose> is there a plugin for Rythembox that lets you play protected m4p files?
[03:17] <Pelo> nameless,  in the terminal,  type alsamixer,   select capture , make sure that the sliders are up and not muted
[03:17] <ce^> net
[03:18] <nickrud> DeadLock: you need to unmount the ntfs partition first; and since you're doing system maintenance, you'll need sudo
[03:18] <MrObvious> goose: You mean like ones off of itunes or something?
[03:18] <eyec0n> goose, I dunno if that would be legal. there might be software to strip the drm
[03:18] <DeadLock> it's not mounted
[03:18] <DeadLock> It hasnt been mounted. It's not in my fstab or anything.
[03:18] <goose> MrObvious, yes. I made the mistake of buying some itunes music files and now I can't play them on ubuntu
[03:18] <WaxyFresh> MrObvious: fglrx^
[03:19] <Flannel> goose: You can de-DRM them if you have OSX or windows and itunes.  Then you'll have them.  Check out Hymn (its on sourceforge, I believe)
[03:19] <MrObvious> goose: You'll need to find a way to remove DRM. I'd rather not get involved in that for legal reasons.
[03:19] <MrObvious> /ban Flannel
[03:19] <TooNamI> goose: there is a program in mac and windows that removes the drm (gulp might have to use wine)
[03:19] <MrObvious> lol
[03:19] <nickrud> DeadLock: how about putting the output of      sudo fdisk -l     on a pastebin, I'll help you identify the options for cfdisk
[03:19] <nameless> done Pelo
[03:19] <Pelo> nameless,  ?
[03:19] <nameless> but i still can't speak on Ventrilo
[03:19] <nameless> :\
[03:20] <nameless> [03:16]  <Pelo> nameless,  in the terminal,  type alsamixer,   select capture , make sure that the sliders are up and not muted
[03:20] <Pelo> oh
[03:20] <nameless> this
[03:20] <goose> Flannel or TooNamI, what's the name of the program? and does it have to run on windows?
[03:20] <Pelo> nameless, yeah, ok , in ventrilo make usre youhve the correct sound device selected,
[03:20] <Pelo> nameless,  try them out one by one if you have to
[03:20] <TooNamI> i use one on my mac --- i dont remmber the name of the windows one -- its freeware though
[03:20] <MrObvious> goose: I guess I can say this. You could always burn an audio CD and rip it to mp3 or some other format.
[03:20] <DeadLock> nickrud: Here you go. http://pastebin.com/m3e381d7f
[03:20] <Pelo> and nameless  make sure the mic is plugged in the correct socket ,
[03:21] <nameless> ok
[03:21] <MrObvious> /ban MrObvious
[03:21] <Pelo> nameless, also it might be a good idea to test the mic in sound recorder or something to make sure it actualy works
[03:21] <eyec0n> heh
[03:21] <Shadow6363> hmm, whats a good program to design websites with or whats  a good channel to discuss said question in?
[03:21] <Pelo> MrObvious,  I can have someone take care of that for you if you want to
[03:22] <MrObvious> Pelo: Lol no ty.
[03:22] <nickrud> DeadLock: so, obviously sdc :)      sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc  ;  and in the screen, change the filetype to linux
[03:22] <vocx> MrObvious, although you are providing good advices, I feel you also talk too much.
[03:22] <dbe> Any suggestions how to make software based psyschedelic audio synth free?