[15:49] <njd001> on a positive note the native qemu-KVM and virt-manager are running smoothly and wonderful on 12.10
[15:50] <katsumeblisk> njd001: You may need to install icetea if it's not there at all.
[15:50]  * njd001 didnt want to install virtualbox or vmware
[15:50]  * ikonia once again asks njd001 do stop with the /me commands
[15:50] <njd001> ikonia sorry bad habit
[15:50] <ikonia> njd001: and please stop calling people "noobs" when it's clear you're pretty inexpereinced yourself
[15:50] <ikonia> njd001: there is no need for iut
[15:50] <ikonia> it
[15:51] <njd001> owes ikonia a dollar donation to ubuntu everytime he does it its up to about 10 bucks so far
[15:51] <njd001> i am calling myself one there ikonia
[15:51] <ikonia> please stop
[15:51] <ikonia> it's not a crime or "bad" to be new
[15:52] <nick_h> what would cause `ps u -p 12345` to show the user ID rather than the username of the process?
[15:52] <ikonia> nick_h: the username not being associated to that uid
[15:52] <Diegosnat> hi guys! Is there any distro optimized to run virtualbox or vmware workstation? I want to have a minimal distro to run virtual machines in, in order to have a multiboot! Any idea?
[15:52] <ikonia> Diegosnat: no, there is no need for "optimization"
[15:53] <njd001> im just used to server side i install run the updates and hand it over to my Dev teams not used to a lot of this config to make things work I'll get it eventually.
[15:53] <njd001> and i will submit my donation later today :)
[15:53] <Diegosnat> ikonia, i want one that boot and gives me openbox as prompt
[15:53] <belgianguy> Hi, I'm trying to use an USB webcam, and am getting the following through hwinfo: http://pastebin.com/0HbRjCqh
[15:53] <ikonia> njd001: please stop saying "I'm used to the server side" - when yesterday it was clear you had no idea what you where doing on the command line
[15:53] <ikonia> njd001: it's "ok" to be new or inexperienced, so I don't know why you are trying to justify asking basic questions, it's "ok" to ask basic questions
[15:53] <belgianguy> but if I try to view it using vlc (reading from /dev/video1) I get a green image
[15:53] <ikonia> Diegosnat: why do you want to boot to an open box prompt
[15:54] <nick_h> ikonia: the uid is definitely associated with a username, though. ps outputs user ID 117, and `getent passwd 117` outputs "elasticsearch:x:117:127::/var/lib/elasticsearch:/bin/false"
[15:54] <ikonia> Diegosnat: you can't run vm's from there....so what is the point.
[15:54] <Diegosnat> I want to create a multiboot computers
[15:54] <Diegosnat> computer
[15:54] <ikonia> Diegosnat: so ?
[15:54] <ikonia> Diegosnat: that has nothing to do with what you've just said, or asked for
[15:54] <Diegosnat> ikonia, why not?
[15:54] <philinux> belgianguy: try it with the app cheese
[15:54] <ikonia> Diegosnat: because it's not, what has openbox got to do with anything you've just said
[15:54] <ikonia> nick_h: that's very odd
[15:55] <belgianguy> philinux: that defaults to my default Webcam, while I inserted another one through USB
[15:55] <ikonia> nick_h: if you "su - elasticsearch" and then do "id" does it report back ok ?
[15:55] <Diegosnat> ikonia, sorry i meant virtualbox
[15:55] <belgianguy> philinux: ah, I can pick sources, in Preferences
[15:56] <belgianguy> still green :(
[15:56] <ikonia> Diegosnat: ??? what ? that makes no sense
[15:56] <philinux> belgianguy: soes it need a driver?
[15:56] <usuario> olaaaaa
[15:56] <Diegosnat> ikonia, minimal linux + virtualbox = multiboot
[15:56] <usuario> k pasa
[15:57] <ikonia> Diegosnat: what are you saying, it makes no sense
[15:57] <jhutchins> Diegosnat: When most people say multiboot they mean that the system can boot into multiple OSs or releases.
[15:57] <ikonia> Diegosnat: that has nothing to do with multiboot
[15:57] <nick_h> ikonia: the elasticsearch user's shell is /bin/false , so one can't switch to that user
[15:57] <Pici> Diegosnat: Are you looking to run virtual machines with graphical interfaces directly on that computer?
[15:57] <ikonia> Diegosnat: 1.) boot linux 2.) start virtual box application 3.) boot any vm's you want
[15:57] <jhutchins> ikonia: I think he wants to boot a VM host, then have the option to launch multiple VMs of various systems.  Not the most efficient way to do it, but possible.
[15:58] <ikonia> jhutchins: booting any linux distro will give you that
[15:58] <Diegosnat> ikonia, right
[15:58] <jhutchins> Diegosnat: There is no pre-configured install that's meant to do that, you could just do a minimal install and add what you needed for the VM host.
[15:58] <Diegosnat> dont u think that would be cool?
[15:59] <ikonia> the fact that you are asking these questions suggest you should not be using a minimal install
[15:59] <ikonia> Diegosnat: ????? what are you talking about "that would be cool" any linux distro already does this ??
[15:59] <Diegosnat> ikonia, you dont understand the idea
[15:59] <jhutchins> Diegosnat: Both VMWare and RedHat offer optimized hypervisors.  I believe that the VMWare product is more highly optimized.
[16:00] <Diegosnat> jhourani, thank you
[16:00] <Diegosnat> however i want to install that on my laptop
[16:00] <Diegosnat> i want to boot up the linux distro with vmware or virtualbox in seconds
[16:00] <ikonia> Diegosnat:....I'm pretty sure you want al linux distro, that on boot allows you to start/auto start VM's ?
[16:00] <Diegosnat> and after from there decide what I want to boto
[16:00] <Diegosnat> boot
[16:00] <ikonia> Diegosnat: errrr the boot time has nothing to do with that
[16:00] <ikonia> Diegosnat: that's disk / ram / cpu limitations
[16:00] <ikonia> Diegosnat: boot any linux distro, set vbox to auto start....problem solved
[16:01] <Diegosnat> ikonia, thank you, i knew that
[16:01] <Diegosnat> I was wondering if there was something ready
[16:01] <ikonia> then why are you saying it ?
[16:01] <ikonia> Diegosnat: there is....any linux distro
[16:01] <ikonia> any linux distro is "ready"
[16:01] <Diegosnat> -_-'
[16:01] <belgianguy> I tried using it through MPlayer
[16:01] <jhutchins> Diegosnat: I think what ikonia is on about is that you can set up a system that will actually boot to multiple different installed OSs without having to use a VM.  What a VM gives you is the ability to run more than one OS at the same time, within hardware limits.
[16:01] <belgianguy> but there I get a slew of errors http://pastebin.com/qJY8Vq8t
[16:01] <Diegosnat> ikonia, you do not understand
[16:01] <Diegosnat> i know that
[16:01] <Diegosnat> I want one ready
[16:02] <Diegosnat> that boot only vmware
[16:02] <Diegosnat> and i can install it and be ready
[16:02] <ikonia> Diegosnat: they are all ready
[16:02] <ikonia> Diegosnat: vmware is a comercial product
[16:02] <ikonia> Diegosnat: the version you want is called "VMWARE ESX Server"
[16:02] <ikonia> Diegosnat: that is exaclty what you've asked for
[16:02] <Diegosnat> ikonia, avoid to talk to me
[16:03] <Diegosnat> you are stubborn
[16:03] <Diegosnat> and you think to be superior
[16:03] <ikonia> Diegosnat: you're just asking for something that already exists
[16:03] <mojtaba> Hi
[16:03] <Diegosnat> what you are saying is obvious and everyone knows it.
[16:03] <Diegosnat> NO IT DOES NOT
[16:03] <ikonia> Diegosnat: then why are you asking for something
[16:03] <jhutchins> ikonia: Your arguing with him isn't helping anybody.
[16:04] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I automatically email the external IP address of the server?
[16:04] <ikonia> jhutchins: no, it's clearly not, it's a waste of time
[16:04] <jhutchins> belgianguy: Does it work despite the "errors"?
[16:04] <Diegosnat> ikonia, if you do not understand because you think to be so cool is pointless
[16:04] <belgianguy> jhutchins: no, I get error after error
[16:05] <belgianguy> however, some frames seem to be parsed correctly, at least it states so at the end
[16:05] <Pici> mojtaba: Huh? Can you rephrase that or maybe explain what you're trying to acheive?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  i guess the people in #bash can tell you how to write a script to that end
[16:05] <Diegosnat> jhutchins, I want to install a minimal distro that boots to virtualbox. Does it exist? I know that I can configure everydistro to do that, but i want a very minimal one that is already configured that when X starts open virtual box
[16:05] <jhutchins> mojtaba: There are are a number of programs like the dyndns client that can automatically update a DNS service, some of those can also work via email.  I wrote my own when I needed one.
[16:05] <ikonia> Diegosnat: that is not an ubuntu question - so please stop asking in this channel
[16:05] <jhutchins> Diegosnat: Not that I know of, you could ask in #vbox.
[16:05] <ikonia> Diegosnat: we support Ubuntu here - only ubuntu
[16:06] <jhutchins> ikonia: Please just back off.
[16:06] <techThijs> yum install ubuntu =)
[16:06] <njd001> ikonia why would virt-manager say that KVM is not available if i do virtlibd -d it does not seem to want to start.
[16:06] <ikonia> njd001: is the kvm module loaded ?
[16:06] <philinux> belgianguy: see if any of this helps. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[16:07] <njd001> libvirtd shows running
[16:07] <ikonia> njd001: no - the kernel module
[16:07] <mojtaba> Actually I need to find what is the external IP address of my server each day, as I am not using the static IP address for it
[16:08] <raven_> how to set ipv4 link to "shared with other machines" via cmd?
[16:08] <njd001> i do not believe they are.
[16:08] <jhutchins> mojtaba: ok.
[16:09] <llutz> mojtaba: cronjobrunning "wget -qO- showip.com|grep IP|cut -d'>' -f4|cut -d'<' -f1   | mail -s my-ip<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:09] <zykotick9> !ics > raven_
[16:09] <ikonia> njd001: that will be your problem them
[16:09] <ikonia> njd001: you need the kernel module loaded to use kvm
[16:09] <njd001> yes performance sucks it seems.
[16:09] <ikonia> ????
[16:09] <makerbreakr> is it possble to restart lightdm from a cron job?
[16:09] <njd001> well it starts to load then just hangs
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  start with this     curl ifconfig.me | tee ~/Documents/ip-address
[16:09] <ikonia> njd001: what starts to load ?
[16:10] <njd001> the vm i am trying to create
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  what llutz sais is better
[16:10] <zykotick9> ikonia: you might want to confirm with njd001 (i don't see there posts) that they have virt support in cpu (required by kvm) with command: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'
[16:10] <ikonia> zykotick9: a wise move always
[16:11] <patie> hi.. best ftp gui client ?
[16:11] <Pici> !best | patie
[16:11] <belgianguy> philinux: most of that I already tried
[16:11] <belgianguy> and the rastageeks driver is gone, or at least the site is
[16:12] <njd001> i see vmx i dont see svm the CPU is SandyBridge on a t430
[16:12] <jhutchins> mojtaba: the ddns3-client package does what you need - you may want to set up an account at dyndns at dyn.com.  I belive they are still free for up to two hosts.
[16:12] <patie> Pici: THANK YOU :) REALLY
[16:13] <jhutchins> mojtaba: If you have a router it may already have the ability to do that.
[16:13] <njd001> i do see smx
[16:13] <njd001> seems like i am missing something
[16:14] <drPoo> hi all, Im runnint 10.04 LTS on a headless server and I get the following when running df -h "100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs". Has anybody ran into this issue? I found this page http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1370 telling me to "sudo mv /etc/init/ureadahead.conf /etc/init/ureadahead.conf.disable". Any ideas?
[16:15] <njd001> aha
[16:15] <njd001> ikonia the command kvm-ok verfied check box in the bios :)
[16:16] <njd001> i forgot to enable vt
[16:16] <njd001> that might help
[16:17] <njd001> apparently Lenovo moved the VT setting under security
[16:17] <g105b> I tried locking a Wine app to the launcher a year ago when Unity was new-ish, and it was difficult to make the launcher icon behave like an actual app (with running indicator, for example)... I tried again today and still not possible - anyone got a hack to make this behave properly?
[16:17] <njd001> ikonia does this mean i may have to recompile the kernel modules?
[16:17] <ikonia> njd001: no, just load the kernel module if your hardware supports it
[16:18] <njd001> it was disabled at the time of ubuntu 12.10 install
[16:18] <njd001> WHY Lenovo moved that under security is beyond me
[16:18] <ikonia> what was disabled ?
[16:19] <ikonia> VT support ?
[16:19] <njd001> yes
[16:19] <philinux> belgianguy: I bought logitech cos I knew it would work. Sorry cant be of any more help
[16:19] <ikonia> njd001: because it has security implications
[16:19] <pradeep_> after upgrading to linux-generic-image-3.5.0-22 my wirless stopped working
[16:19] <pradeep_> help me
[16:19] <ikonia> njd001: allowing guests access to the host
[16:19] <njd001> ah yes
[16:20] <njd001> makes sense.
[16:20] <ikonia> so if you don't need it, why introduce a risk
[16:20] <ikonia> and if you do need it you should be aware enough to enable it
[16:20] <belgianguy> philinux: thanks, but this is just for a demonstration, if I buy hardware, I do, too, buy $RELIABE_BRAND
[16:20] <pradeep_> ??
[16:20] <pradeep_> after upgrading to linux-generic-image-3.5.0-22 my wirless stopped working
[16:20] <pradeep_> helpme
[16:20] <belgianguy> but in this case, the hardware was supplied to me and I'm stuck with it :)
[16:20] <njd001> eww it did not like me turning that on
[16:21] <njd001> someones irc client is going awol
[16:21] <drPoo> hi all, Im runnint 10.04 LTS on a headless server and I get the following when running df -h "100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs". Has anybody ran into this issue? I found this page http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1370 telling me to "sudo mv /etc/init/ureadahead.conf /etc/init/ureadahead.conf.disable". Any ideas?
[16:22] <jhutchins> !any ideas?
[16:22] <toter> is anyone having problems with bootchart? it takes 10 secs max to boot ubuntu on my machine, but bootchart shows that the boot process took 50 secs!!! http://imgur.com/lMSU4bB
[16:23] <njd001> ikonia this looks a LOT better no error on virt-manager now.
[16:23] <philinux> belgianguy: was is the device code for it in lsusb
[16:23] <philinux> what
[16:24] <pochefuok> hi everyone, how can i add an IRC channel of ubuntu in italian?? thanks! ;D
[16:24] <zykotick9> !it | pochefuok
[16:25] <belgianguy> philinux: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 06a5:d001 Divio ProLink DS3303u Webcam
[16:25] <pochefuok> thanks ubottu
[16:25] <njd001> which ones the better video vmvga/xen/qxl/cirrus(isnt cirrus like the old tn5270)
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> njd001  better depends on what you prefer
[16:26] <ikonia> njd001: never had a problem with the vmvga, but it depends on what you want/need
[16:27] <njd001> MonkeyDust yes i just realized this goes with the question i had yesterday about selection of video modules. I also noticed that my corporate ISO when it goes to install it does not see C:\
[16:27] <njd001> perhaps this will be fixed now with the module loaded..
[16:27] <philinux> belgianguy: it shows up in here ok http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/video4linux/gspca.txt
[16:27] <nick_h> ikonia: it turns out that the username is too long for ps to display. instead, ps shows the uid
[16:28] <belgianguy> ah, thanks philinux, that at least assures me it should work
[16:29] <pythonsnake> where does service starting errors go to?
[16:29] <njd001> good golly miss molly much faster :D
[16:29] <sere> i have a labtop and a vga monitor and trying to turn on a monitor from command so i can set resolution
[16:30] <nemo> *sigh*  So, I'm a big boy, and I'd like to decided when I want to update.  The new dialog from the updater seems determined to make it really hard to avoid.  keeps that window around, w/ restart focused, only one alt-tab + enter away from catastrophe
[16:30] <nemo> so. I have to xkill it
[16:30] <nemo> is there a way to get the old dialog back? some settings/config thing?
[16:31] <nemo> I mean, xkill isn't horribly hard to do, I can make a little icon for it. but. still...
[16:33] <pradeep_> my wireless is not working plz help me
[16:33] <philinux> belgianguy: no idea if this will help or not. http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/get-your-webcam-working-gspca
[16:33] <pradeep_> ??
[16:33] <belgianguy> ah thanks philinux, I'll try that!
[16:34] <pradeep_> plz help me
[16:34] <philinux> belgianguy: I thought by now that the drivers for that cam would be built in to kernel
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> nemo  system settings, software sources, updates
[16:35] <zombiejim> Just wanted people to know that with a nvidia 310m, installing bumblebee corrupted my graphics card. Installing the 310 beta runs flawlessly just in case you were having problems
[16:35] <nemo> MonkeyDust: hrm. have to switch to unity to access that I 'spose.  Thanks.
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> nemo  what DE are you in?
[16:35] <nemo> MonkeyDust: MATE
[16:36] <nick_h> if /var/run/ isn't world-writable, how are other processes supposed to create PID files?
[16:37] <nemo> MonkeyDust: there is the old software sources dialog (like synaptic launches) but that has no way to control that dialog's annoyance unfortunately
[16:37] <BorgCuba> hi, I cant switch off frto
[16:37] <BorgCuba> i.e. "sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto" results in permission denied
[16:38] <nemo> BorgCuba: sudo sh -c "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto"
[16:38] <Pici> BorgCuba: sudo does not pass I/O redirection operators.
[16:38] <BorgCuba> okay, thanks!
[16:38] <Pici> BorgCuba: or echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto
[16:38] <nemo> or just sudo su   and do whatever :-p
[16:39] <BorgCuba> nemo's suggestion worked
[16:39] <raven_> i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?
[16:39] <BorgCuba> bye and thanks for the help, nemo and Pici
[16:40] <in^> anyone having audio problems in Chrome on 12.04LTS?
[16:40] <nemo> raven_: well. speaking personally, I've never had any luck w/ adhoc
[16:40] <kostkon> in^, what kind of problems
[16:40] <raven_> nemo, ad hoc is no option
[16:40] <in^> no audio on videos
[16:40] <nemo> raven_: oh. you're not doing adhoc? good
[16:40] <raven_> nemo any way to look for the problem? any iptable that is not set right?
[16:40] <in^> works fine in Firefox
[16:41] <raven_> nemo, no real ap with hostapd and dnsmasq
[16:41] <nemo> raven_: no familiarity outside of adhoc. sorry :)  I know some about dyndns and routing in linux, but not wifi.
[16:41] <kostkon> in^, on a specific website or everywhere?
[16:41] <jhutchins> raven_: Is your AP doing NAT for the wifi?
[16:41] <in^> all video flash / html5
[16:42] <raven_> jhutchins, it i am not sure i did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUER
[16:42] <nemo> MonkeyDust: right. I'll try to remember. maybe I'll jump into unity real quick when I do the reboot. thanks :)
[16:43] <jhutchins> raven_: That looks like yes.  Is the AP getting NAT from a router or does it have a public address?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> nemo  should be similar in mate, i'm not familiar with the DE, tho
[16:43] <in^> @kostkon any ideas?
[16:43] <raven_> jhutchins, uplink is eth0 with <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:44] <kostkon> in^, if you start a video in chrome and then open your sound prefs and select the Applications tab, do you see chrome listed in there?
[16:44] <in^> @kostdon: hmmm let me check
[16:45] <in^> @kostkon no, it is not listed
[16:45] <kostkon> in^, hmm
[16:46] <in^> @kostkon: it was working fine, did some auto updates and its stopped working
[16:46] <in^> @kostkon: thinking it was an oss update
[16:46] <kostkon> in^, ?!!?!
[16:46] <raven_> jhutchins, i see a dnsrequest on wlan0 but not on eth0 - obviously its not bridged right - how to setup the bridge right?
[16:47] <kostkon> in^, have you by any chance installed oss or tried to configure your sound somehow?
[16:47] <in^> nope
[16:48] <in^> @kostkon: oss is installed but has been for a while
[16:49] <rafa_> hola
[16:49] <deadmund> What is a good replacement for sudo service networking stop || start || restart   now that this feature is gone
[16:49] <kostkon> in^, do you now the reason?
[16:49] <kostkon> in^, why it was installed
[16:50] <kostkon> in^, maybe it was a dep for something else, do you remember
[16:50] <anonymous9999999> deadmund, /etc/init.d/networking stop /etc/init.d/networking start
[16:50] <in^> think it was for using my usb condensor mic
[16:51] <raven_> jhutchins, any idea?
[16:51] <in^> i can uninstall and see if that works
[16:51] <njd001> ikonia i solved my disk issue looks great apparently the VT bit was my virt-manager issue. Thanks :D
[16:52] <deadmund> anonymous9999999: Are you sure that works?
[16:52] <deadmund> anonymous9999999: I'm not on an ubuntu machine right now
[16:53] <Thor> deadmund: that or replace with restart instead
[16:53] <in^> @kostkon checked in Synaptic... oss is not installed so must be an Alsa problem?
[16:53] <anonymous9999999> deadmund, yep that works
[16:54] <Thor> deadmund: but sudo service networking * works on my 12.10 servers, so that feature isn't gone afaik?
[16:54] <kostkon> in^, possibly
[16:54] <devmark> how do i change keyboard settings_
[16:54] <devmark> to swedish
[16:54] <in^> is it possible to revert to Alsa that was used before update?
[16:54] <zachB> need to create a install disk for ppc64.
[16:54] <PsyMar> I am trying to figure out how to install wine on 64-bit ubuntu, and I'm getting dependency errors, where should I start?
[16:54] <deadmund> Thor: oh :P
[16:55] <deadmund> Thor: It was def gone for a little while
[16:55] <Thor> deadmund: root@gw-01 ~# service networking restart, worked of rme
[16:55] <Thor> *for
[16:55] <kostkon> in^, do you remember what packages were updated?
[16:55] <in^> no
[16:56] <in^> i just said update all
[16:56] <zachB> someone recommended a g5 powerMac any idea how to create an install distro install the the g5 will see from the boot selecont
[16:56] <Thor> deadmund: for that sake, I can't remember seeing that it haven't been there in any version since 11.04 at least
[16:56] <kostkon> in^, how long ago. Maybe it's still in the dpkg.log
[16:56] <devmark> how do i change so i can write swedish letters_
[16:56] <in^> last week
[16:56] <anonymous9999999> deadmund, it's there in 12.04
[16:57] <in^> should be, where is the log located?
[16:57] <kostkon> in^, in a terminal, give:  gedit /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:57] <Thor> devmark: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:57] <in^> k, brb
[16:57] <devmark> Thor> lubuntu
[16:58] <Thor> devmark: version...? server? Desktop?
[16:58] <devmark> Thor> live cd desktop
[16:58] <Thor> again, version?
[16:58] <raven_> i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?
[16:59] <devmark> Thor> Thor 3.2.0-23-generic
[16:59] <Thor> devmark: 12.10? 12.04? 11.10? 11.04?
[16:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:59] <njd001> ikonia / zykotick9 when the cat /proc/cpuinfo does it _have_ to have both vmx svm or is it 'one or the other' type thing?
[16:59] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know what ham0 is?  I get it as a interface when I run ifconfig
[17:00] <in^> @kostkon: only audio related update was Pulse Audio on the 18th
[17:00] <Thor> devmark: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1039107, switch ar with se
[17:00] <in^> has to be the culprit
[17:01] <kostkon> in^, hmm right.  in a terminal give:  ps -A pulse   do you get any output?
[17:01] <njd001> !kvm-ok
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[17:01] <FloodBot1> erg234534twrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <in^> @kostkon: get a sytax err, should there be a | grep in there?
[17:02] <ShapeShifter499> anonymous9999999, right now I can't connect to google.com (or any google services
[17:02] <ShapeShifter499> )
[17:02] <njd001> wow people still flood advertise...thats stupid
[17:02] <anonymous9999999> ShapeShifter499,  http://dougmelton.com/other-fun-stuff/hamachiubuntuhowto/
[17:02] <devmark> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,sv
[17:02] <kostkon> in^, lol sorry, yeah, it should be  ps -A | grep pulse
[17:02] <devmark> Error loading new keyboard description
[17:02] <in^> k
[17:02] <devmark> Thor didnt work
[17:03] <ShapeShifter499> ahh ok
[17:03] <Thor> devmark: what version of lubuntu did you download?
[17:03] <in^> @kostkon: output // 2417 ?        00:29:00 pulseaudio
[17:03] <nick_h> if /var/run/ isn't world-writable, how are non-root processes supposed to create PID files?
[17:03] <kostkon> in^, ok
[17:03] <devmark> Thor. how do i check that_
[17:03] <ShapeShifter499> anonymous9999999, thank you, I was trying to set that up before I messed up some network settings
[17:03] <anonymous9999999> ShapeShifter499, np
[17:04] <Thor> cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:04] <zykotick9> nick_h: isn't /var/run linked to /run for you?
[17:04] <Thor> devmark: cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:04] <in^> @kostkon: is there a way to downgrade PulseAudio?
[17:04] <Thor> devmark: just need the DISTRIB_RELEASE= line
[17:05] <sybariten> evening
[17:05] <devmark> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[17:05] <devmark> Thor> so what command should i use instead_
[17:06] <kostkon> in^, no need to, but you could reset it, by doing the following: pulseaudio -k   then: rm -rf ~/.pulse  and finally: pulseaudio -D
[17:06] <sybariten> A VPN solution at my work requires an alien computer to be "company compliant" to connect. On the linux side, this means: IPtables active with rules, v >= 1.4.7 , ClamAV v >= 0.97.3, AnyConnect
[17:07] <sybariten> now, for the first part there.... what do i want to see if i do an iptables -L ? i see three "chains"
[17:07] <sybariten> with very little info
[17:07] <Thor> devmark: tried this? http://noobish-nix.blogspot.no/2012/06/how-to-add-and-switch-keyboard-layout.html
[17:08] <in^> k
[17:08] <nemo> MonkeyDust: well, under software sources->updates I didn't see anything that would change that dialog to allow cancelling instead of just prompting for restart
[17:08] <njd001> !paste-bin
[17:08] <nemo> MonkeyDust: so I'm assuming there's just a different app in Unity.
[17:09] <njd001> !pastebin
[17:09] <kostkon> in^, close all the apps that are capable of producing audio before doing it
[17:09] <njd001> MonkeyDust how long does pastebinit hold the data ?
[17:09] <in^> @kostkon: what about system sounds?
[17:10] <nemo> sybariten: my guess is they want a default reject or drop rule
[17:10] <nemo> sybariten: w/ whitelisted ports
[17:10] <raven_> i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?
[17:10] <sybariten> nemo: ok.... any search info about that?
[17:11] <kostkon> in^, not it's ok. actually the apps that are currently connected to pulseaudio, like e.g. if you are have a media player running or an flash vid in firefox
[17:11] <daniel___> #testing
[17:11] <nemo> sybariten: there are probably a ton of iptable sample firewalls out there
[17:11] <in^> @kostkon: ok will let you know what happens
[17:11] <nemo> sybariten: I guess I could share my script after cleaning it up a bit
[17:12] <sybariten> nemo: that'd be kind of you
[17:14] <sunny__> Hi everybody
[17:17] <in^> @kostkon: output// E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[17:17] <kostkon> in^, ok then give again:  rm ~/.pulse, then logout and login back again
[17:17] <in^> k
[17:17] <in^> brb
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[17:19] <FloodBot1> loculinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[17:22] <hsnmck> Hello, lets say that I have two network interfaces wlan and eth0, is there a way to force chrome to use wlan and firefox to use eth0 ? Thanks
[17:22] <angs> I connect a device through telnet and I need to execute "exit" on that device, however when I type exit, the telnet is terminated. is there any way to change exit command on telnet?
[17:23] <iceman> any ideas why i keep getting this error when running apt-get install firefox:amd6
[17:23] <nick_h> zykotick9: yeah, it is. the question still applies, though  =)
[17:23] <iceman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:23] <iceman> /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_18.0.1+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
[17:23] <giricz81> hi guys, I am experiencing problems with dropbox v 1.6.16, there is only red icon with exclamation mark in my panel, and there is only complains  "can't acces dropbox folder"
[17:23] <zykotick9> nick_h: my /run isn't world writable either, but stuff seems to get in there ok?  good luck.
[17:24] <kostkon> iceman, give:  sudo apt-get clean    and then try to apt-get install it again
[17:24] <iceman> how can i fix the error to get firefox to install?
[17:24] <prodnix> Hi all, using disk manager I just created a raid0 with 2 ssd's. Benchmark results are exactly the same as a single drive? Waht am I missing?
[17:24] <iceman> i have done all that but no luck. will try that again
[17:25] <njd001> prodnix thats a storage question and i can answer that you aren't missing anything
[17:25] <njd001> which raid did you do ?
[17:25] <iceman> getting the same error
[17:25] <njd001> prodnix which raid did you do?
[17:25] <prodnix> njd001: can you clear up my misconception of performance doubling?
[17:26] <_raven> trying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please
[17:26] <iceman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:26] <njd001> prodnix yes that doesnt happen with raid thats not the point of raid
[17:26] <prodnix> njd001: I used the GUI tool for lack of being arsed to go google it up. I used mdadm afaik
[17:26] <njd001> prodnix which raid did you do 0/1/2/3/4/5/6/10/50
[17:27] <iceman> is there any way to do a force install of firefox?
[17:27] <prodnix> njd001: But I thought that was the point of RAID0
[17:27] <njd001> no
[17:27] <in^> @kostkon: no joy, must be chrome, because audio in everything else works fine
[17:27] <njd001> RAID 0 gives you space expansion over more than one disk and its not good unless you mirror it if you have a single disk failure you're screwed.
[17:27] <kostkon> in^, :(  you could try reinstalling it
[17:27] <in^> i did, gonna try to downgrade
[17:27] <ikonia> its not good if you mirror it either
[17:28] <njd001> RAID 0 is faster than all the other raids...but still
[17:28] <ikonia> raid 0 is for high performance trash data
[17:28] <ikonia> nothing else
[17:28] <nemo> kostkon: other browsers work?
[17:28] <njd001> let me get you the BEST url for RAID
[17:28] <in^> @nemo: yes
[17:28] <MichaelP> Can i create a livecd of my system for backup purpose ?
[17:29] <kostkon> in^, you could try testing it with a new profile. http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=142059
[17:29] <prodnix> Well I just got 2 SSD's in the post ready to start messing around with bcache. Im stumped now
[17:29] <ikonia> MichaelP: you can, but it's quite a bit of effort
[17:29] <in^> hmm, good idea
[17:29] <axgb> How do you edit the gnome3 tray
[17:29] <njd001> I worked for both NTAP and did a LOT with EMC and was on SAN for a long time at Cisco i agree with ikonia for the most part its for data you dont care about like a copy of your music or something that would be backedup elsewhere
[17:29] <axgb> I want to add wicd to it
[17:30] <njd001> prodnix here is the Best of the BEST url's that explains RAID 0-6 + 10 50 0+1
[17:30] <njd001> http://www.acnc.com/raid
[17:31] <njd001> also know that RAID 10 and RAID 0+1 are NOT the same.
[17:31] <prodnix> njd001: I purely took the plunge into SSDs because of bcache, Im not totally set back. I quite sure I can use both SSDs to their fullest
[17:31] <MichaelP> ikonia, What would i need.. I want something.. going to take windows off... the harddrive.. And i have my system now setup the way i want... So i want to loose anything
[17:31] <_raven> trying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please
[17:32] <prodnix> njd001: Ive spent a while looking into raid, I have 4 500G disk in LVM stripe and got insane improvements in bandwidth
[17:32] <disharmonic> hey
[17:32] <njd001> ok
[17:32] <njd001> this is SSD ?
[17:32] <iceman> any ideas why apt-get or aptitude failed to install firefox? i use the firefox tarball install and it runs fine.
[17:32] <prodnix> njd001: mechanical disks
[17:33] <njd001> spindles ok what rpm's are they and yes they should be identical disks if possible
[17:33] <disharmonic> iceman, unless you tell us the apt-get error noone can answer that
[17:34] <njd001> prodnix most raid controllers sync the spindle to prevent from becoming whats known as spindle bound.
[17:34] <prodnix> njd001: 7200RPM, 2 old samsungs and 2 newer WD's i think
[17:34] <njd001> oo yeah you dont want to do that
[17:34] <iceman> here is the error again i get near the end of the install again
[17:34] <njd001> your RAID 0 on all these drives?
[17:34] <adamk> iceman: Pastebin the *full* output of the command.
[17:34] <prodnix> njd001: yes, been running them for months without a problem
[17:35] <_raven> trying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please
[17:35] <iceman> ok
[17:35] <njd001> so what happens is the raid controller will look at all spindles and if the newer WD's are faster it will try to throttle them (at least a good RAID controller will) to match the lower speed of 7200 rpm
[17:35] <prodnix> and they massively vary is performance too, but its all junk data like games and redownloadable crap
[17:35] <njd001> yes it will
[17:35] <njd001> because your running multiple spindles in different RPMS
[17:35] <njd001> your getting whats called spindle bound.
[17:36] <prodnix> njd001: but these SSDs need to be firing on all 12 cylinders for my bcache testing
[17:36] <njd001> it means the disks are indepedent but if the buffers on them are different sizes or the spindle spins at a different rate than it won't keep up
[17:36] <iceman> here is error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2083237
[17:37] <prodnix> njd001: I run multiple windows VMs on my PC and host LANs with my mates and disk is a huge bottleneck
[17:37] <njd001> ok wait you just said you have 7200 RPM disks are you trying to raid SSD with 7200 RPM ?
[17:37] <prodnix> njd001: no
[17:37] <njd001> clarify please.
[17:37] <prodnix> njd001: seperate array
[17:37] <njd001> ok
[17:37] <njd001> what raid controller model are you using?
[17:38] <iceman> note that i also run into similar error when trying to install the 32bit version as well
[17:38] <prodnix> njd001: check out bcache, ul understand where im heading
[17:38] <in^> @kostkon: no joy :-/
[17:38] <prodnix> njd001: mdadm, software raid
[17:38] <kostkon> in^, :(
[17:38] <in^> will downgrade and let you know
[17:38] <ClientAlive> I've been trying to find a solution to a particular piece of software on my system (running 12.04 server with gnome 3). I have Visual Paradigm Community Edition installed but it installs to my home directory (and I HATE that - hate'). So I think I've found an option but not sure I know enough to understand whether it will do what I want for me. Can someone please help me evaluate the option?
[17:38] <njd001> Are the disks all using the same raid controller... I'm familiar with caching and cascaded disk arrays.
[17:38] <ClientAlive> What I want is to install it to /opt/VPUML/
[17:38] <ClientAlive> Here's what I found: vpworkspace
[17:39] <ClientAlive> sorry, hang on
[17:39] <ironhalik> Is there any fingeprint reader UI that works with encrypted home dir?
[17:39] <ClientAlive> http://media.visual-paradigm.com/media/documents/vpuml60ig/pdf/vpuml_installation_guide_ch2.pdf
[17:40] <prodnix> njd001: I am am not running any controller, Im using the software raid in linux called mdadm
[17:40] <Miebster> will rm -rf /this/dir/*  follow symlinks in /this/dir/ and delete data that exists outside of /this/dir?
[17:40] <njd001> ok so your wanting the SSD to act as a prefetch to the actual RAID'ed disks the spindles.
[17:40] <prodnix> njd001: exactly :)
[17:40] <njd001> yep got it i sww that
[17:40] <njd001> see that.
[17:40] <njd001> lemme thnk about this for a second... brb
[17:40] <disharmonic> iceman is that acroread package from the official repos?
[17:40] <prodnix> njd001: tyvm :)
[17:40] <njd001> is going to his whiteboard to diagram it out...
[17:41] <iceman> i am not sure. how can i tell?
[17:41] <prodnix> njd001: lol
[17:41] <njd001> ok so your doing software raid (argh)
[17:41] <belgianguy> is there a way to get a binary dump from a webcam
[17:41] <belgianguy> it won't open in any of the tools I've consulted
[17:42] <belgianguy> from ffmpeg to mplayer, vlc, xawtv
[17:42] <prodnix> njd001: I know this sux but I have plenty of cores to go around so I dont mind the overhead
[17:42] <njd001> prodnix let me get back to my spindle question how many disks are in that raid and what raid format is it obviously your doing RAID 0 on the SSD's
[17:42] <teekoh> what can i use as a dynamic proxy forwarder? On one internal computer I want to connect to my internal proxy that looks up a proxy list and forwards my original request to the actual proxy in the list. IDEAS?
[17:43] <njd001> so the only way in any given RAID system that SSD works best is once the data is cached there but you still have to overcome the issue of spindles.
[17:43] <prodnix> njd001: they are all in the same array, RAID0 (I know its ballsy). 2 of them are around 30% slower than the other 2. the 2 slower drives also have half the cache.
[17:44] <njd001> then what your doing will not work
[17:44] <prodnix> njd001: I am totally up for suggestions too, I have enough space to backup
[17:44] <teekoh> in a raid, it only works as fast as your slowest piece of hardware
[17:44] <njd001> at least not that way
[17:44] <prodnix> njd001: at which level will it not work?
[17:44] <njd001> right
[17:45] <disharmonic> iceman, i did a quick search and there's no acroread pkg in 12.04 at least. The cmd apt-cache showpkg packagename should tell you more
[17:45] <njd001> prodnix heres the design change: you want to take the spidles of the same speed and put them each into its own raid group. rg1 and rg2
[17:45] <prodnix> teekoh: when I can dd almost 600MB/s I dont care :)
[17:45] <njd001> the SSD needs to be RG0
[17:46] <iceman> not sure why it try to overwrite file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins when there's no plugins folder
[17:46] <njd001> the SSD's and disk spindles should never ever ever ever ever did i say ever ever touch each others volume riding on them.
[17:46] <shark12342> Can u guys me if this is real
[17:46] <shark12342> macbook air for $170
[17:46] <adamk> iceman: Because dpkg thinks there is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, and it thinks this was installed by some acroread package you managed to install somehow.
[17:46] <iceman> iam using v12.10. an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[17:46] <adamk> iceman: So remove the acorread package.
[17:46] <xangua> disharmonic: iceman adobe reader is on partner repository
[17:46] <shark12342> http://yamaytech.en.alibaba.com/product/717237622-210221318/Ultra_Super_Slim_13_3_inch_portable_azerty_keyboard_laptop_computer.html?tracelog=cgsotherproduct1
[17:47] <njd001> otherwise what your trying to do is pair a Ferarri engine in a Chevy Chevette with 10 people stuffed in the car.
[17:47] <prodnix> njd001: How will I then utilise both spindle arrays?
[17:47] <njd001> i just said it :)
[17:47] <iceman> let me search for acroread package and remove it.
[17:47] <disharmonic> xangua, hmm i should have those enabled
[17:47] <njd001> you create a volume that sits on the spindles as two raid groups paired oon disk speed.
[17:48] <ortix> hi guys, i'm having a little trouble running cron
[17:48] <prodnix> so the finished product will be using 2 arrays? instead of 1 big 1?
[17:48] <ortix> i can't seem to run commands and i can't figure out how to even check if it ran
[17:48] <njd001> then you create one raid group for the SSD's that are independent from the spindle (they act as a front load cache) to the spindles.
[17:48] <vinyl> hey guys do any of you guys know were i can find the mouse write file?
[17:48] <ortix> all I want to do is run flexget every 30 minutes
[17:49] <njd001> normally you would never do this as a software driven raid
[17:49] <njd001> you really need a HW Raid controller to do this right.
[17:49] <prodnix> ok, I suppose with the cache I wont need the spindle bandwidth
[17:49] <prodnix> makes sense
[17:49] <njd001> no you dont its slowing you down.... actually its Mocking you and "laughing" in a way
[17:49] <prodnix> njd001: hehe
[17:50] <njd001> because the SSD's have to act as the same speed of a 7200 rpm disk.
[17:50] <Padd_> hi is there someone here that can help with a question regarding adding a user to sudo ?
[17:50] <prodnix> njd001: well I only got the SSDs today so my huge spindle bandwidth served me well up until now
[17:50] <njd001> look at the designs of some of the best storage arrays in the world..EMC, NTAP, storageTEK
[17:51] <prodnix> njd001: I am very interested in zfs but Im not forking out for the slc ssd's
[17:51] <root____1> I'm installing tftpd on ubuntu 11.04 http://www.davidsudjiman.info/2006/03/27/installing-and-setting-tftpd-in-ubuntu/comment-page-4/#comment-94631 from this page and it's not working...I don't see any ports listening
[17:51] <njd001> the logic is that when you use SSD as a flashCACHE when you pull a file in from the spindle it loads to the SSD the metadata gets tagged so that it rarely has to talk to the disk and only provide the delta in data change to write to disk.
[17:51] <prodnix> njd001: hope bcache will fill the gap and not have to spend a fortune
[17:51] <vinyl> nvm i found it :3
[17:52] <njd001> the only time it has to reflush the SSD (flashcache) is if you blob big data through it and it flushes your cached data.
[17:52] <prodnix> njd001: Am I heading in the right direction with my hardware?
[17:53] <prodnix> njd001: will it suffice for my project? :)
[17:53] <njd001> yes well RAID cards can suck too because they normally come with a tiny spec of memory about 512 MB thats used for metadata tagging for the location of data on a spindle or SSD
[17:53] <njd001> yes.
[17:53] <jrib> !11.04 | root____1
[17:53] <prodnix> njd001: thank you for your help
[17:53] <iceman> thanks guys! acroread was the root cause of the problem. not sure how or when the acroread got install
[17:53] <prodnix> njd001: much appreciated
[17:53] <root____1> so i should upgrad
[17:54] <jrib> root____1: your priority should be to upgrade to a supported release.  You're not receiving security updates on 11.04
[17:54] <qhartman> I've been having consistent problems with Remmina killing my window manager on 12.04
[17:54] <njd001> some of the largest PetaByte Netapp filers use 7200 rpm 1-2-3 TB disks but set 1-2TB PCI 3.0 slotted SSD in front of the spindle.
[17:54] <qhartman> Anyone else seen this?
[17:54] <prodnix> njd001: which software cache should i be focusing on?
[17:54] <root____1> is there an alternate tftpd since I can't get this working?
[17:54] <prodnix> njd001: u mention flashcache
[17:55] <prodnix> njd001: Ive heard a lot of good stuff about bcache
[17:55] <njd001> prodnix flashCACHE is just the name netapp gives its 2 TB PCI slotted card that sits in a PCI 3.0 busline (they are about 30,000 dollars on a filer implimentation)
[17:56] <jrib> root____1: you just want an ftp server?
[17:56] <prodnix> njd001: ah, the benchmark i read compared against software called flashcache, hence the confusion
[17:56] <njd001> bcache is just a software implimentation of Cache I/O that most storage companies use HW to do it it most likely runs a form of bcache thats embedded in the PCI card.
[17:57] <prodnix> njd001: awesome, learning more from u than hours of googling :D
[17:58] <root____1> tftp so I can back up my cisco images
[17:58] <prodnix> njd001: filled me with confidence and enthusiasm
[17:58] <njd001> prodnix when you do SAN and NAS storage for a long time you become an expert. even if you dont want to be.
[17:59] <jrib> root____1: I don't know then.  My suggestion would be to see if the problem persists after you upgrade and if so, come back and troubleshoot
[17:59] <njd001> has seen whole corporations become spindle bound even in a netapp or emc array because of lack of proper configuration it can be entertaining. Glad i could help.
[18:00] <chimeracoder> I
[18:00] <prodnix> njd001: Legend! :)
[18:00] <chimeracoder> I'm having trouble creating installation media for Ubuntu 12.10 for use alongside OS X Lion - any suggested approach?
[18:00] <prodnix> bye all
[18:00] <njd001> hardly.
[18:00] <njd001> but ok :)
[18:00] <prodnix> :)
[18:01] <jrib> chimeracoder: which .iso are you using?
[18:01] <chimeracoder> I've tried creating the USB on OS X, but it doesn't seem to be working with unetbootin either
[18:01] <chimeracoder> jrib: I've tried with a couple of different isos
[18:01] <jrib> chimeracoder: which ones? :)
[18:01] <chimeracoder> right now I'm using the 32 bit one that I downloaded off of the main site; before that I tried with xubuntu and also with the one htat unetbootin downloads automatically
[18:01] <chimeracoder> on OS X I had to convert it to a dmg or img first, but that didn't work either
[18:01] <root____1> okay jrib
[18:02] <jrib> chimeracoder: there are special ISOs for macs. You can find them here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:02] <jrib> !mac | chimeracoder
[18:02] <PsyMar> OK, I'm getting desperate -- I have tried "solutions" on installing wine from about 10 different websites, and none have helped
[18:03] <PsyMar> I'm trying to install wine on Ubuntu 12.10 x64
[18:03] <jrib> PsyMar: sudo apt-get install wine  (done)
[18:03] <PsyMar> and I keep getting a dependency error
[18:03] <PsyMar> done that twenty times, jrib
[18:03] <jrib> PsyMar: pastebin the error
[18:03] <chimeracoder> jrib: as for creating the USB, though, how do I do that on OS X? or do I do that on a Linux machine with unetbootin, etc.?
[18:04] <jrib> chimeracoder: I don't know what the recommended way is on OS X.  I believe you can use unetbootin, or usb-creator-gtk (only Linux I think), or even dd.  I'll send you the install wiki page
[18:04] <jrib> !install | chimeracoder
[18:05] <chimeracoder> jrib: yeah, I tried that yesterday, but rEFIt wasn't recognizing it
[18:05] <PsyMar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566749/
[18:06] <jrib> chimeracoder: you could also just burn a dvd.  I've never used a usb to install on a mac so I can't tell you for sure what to do
[18:06] <chimeracoder> jrib: the interwebs seemed to suggest that Lion+ has some issues, but supposedly it can still be done
[18:06] <chimeracoder> jrib: no, this is a MBA
[18:06] <chimeracoder> no CD/DVD drive
[18:07] <jrib> chimeracoder: so you used the +mac iso yesterday?
[18:07] <chimeracoder> jrib: yup
[18:07] <jrib> chimeracoder: with unetbootin?
[18:08] <chimeracoder> jrib: no, I didn't have my Linux computer with me yesterday, so I tried Disk Utility and dd (on the mac)
[18:08] <chimeracoder> one of which required me to create a dmg/img first (some websites pointed to that)
[18:09] <jrib> chimeracoder: I'd give unetbootin a try then unless the docs point you elsewhere
[18:10] <chimeracoder> jrib: alright, will try
[18:10] <PsyMar> jrib: pastebinned my wine installation error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566749/
[18:11] <noregret> can someone tell me where is all the ram, http://i.imgur.com/nBttP06.png
[18:11] <zykotick9> !atemyram | noregret
[18:11] <jrib> PsyMar: pastebin output of "apt-cache policy wine1.4"
[18:12] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone. I am trying to install emacs 24 into ubuntu lucid but not successful yet. The second problem is  I am also getting error messages after running apt get update. Could I request someone to look into it. The result of the apt-get update command and sources list is here --- http://pastebin.com/iShcJSuU
[18:13] <PsyMar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566771/
[18:13] <leilaneforever> ciao
[18:14] <katsumeblisk> Vivekananda: It seems like one of your PPAs doesn't exist.
[18:14] <katsumeblisk> Vivekananda: At least for 10.04.
[18:14] <jrtappers> How do I set ubuntu to use integrated graphics and a graphics card?
[18:15] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: Desktop or Laptop? What brand of video card?
[18:15] <vfw> s
[18:15] <Vivekananda> katsumeblisk: which one is it ? I mean which line should I delete ( from the pastebin sources file ?
[18:16] <jrtappers> Desktop,  AMD, it works on win 7, so not a hw problem
[18:16] <katsumeblisk> Vivekananda: You could use the Software Sources GUI (found in Synaptic's menus) and remove whatever olivier-berten is.
[18:16] <katsumeblisk> Vivekananda: It's saying it can't find that repo for Lucid.
[18:16] <jrib> PsyMar: run "sudo apt-get update" before we do anything else and confirm that wine1.4-i386 is still not available.  If so, what is the output of "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"
[18:17] <chimeracoder> jrib: should it be on /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1?
[18:17] <Vivekananda> so isnt the same line present in /apt/sources.list ??
[18:17] <jrtappers> katsumeblisk, Ubuntu 12.10
[18:17] <Vivekananda> I thought is should be right ??
[18:17] <katsumeblisk> Vivekananda: I didn't see it.
[18:17] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: That's not what I asked.
[18:17] <jrib> chimeracoder: don't know.  I would guess /dev/sdb though (make sure that's actually your usb of course)
 Desktop,  AMD, it works on win 7, so not a hw problem
[18:17] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: Oh
[18:17] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: Make sure you mention who you're talking to or it gets missed.
[18:18] <chimeracoder> jrib: unetbootin doesn't give me an option for /dev/sdb - just /dev/sdb1, that's why I ask
[18:18] <jrtappers> katsumeblisk, ok
[18:18] <chimeracoder> on Arch, I remember that /dev/sdb1 wouldn't work, though
[18:18] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: I can't really help then. Sorry. I know a bit about laptops with optimus graphics switching between Intel and nVidia.
[18:18] <chimeracoder> but then again, the Arch Wiki page says that that same method won't work with UEFI, so I don't know if that's even valid here, since I'm using rEFIt
[18:18] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: Why do you want to use both?
[18:18] <PsyMar> jrib: I could've sworn I ran sudo apt-get update about 5 times by now, but this time it's installing, thanks
[18:19] <jrib> PsyMar: cool
[18:19] <jrtappers> katsumeblisk, I have 3 screens, 2 off graphics, one of integrated. The REALLY odd thing is that screen 3 shows the shutdown animation, nothing else
[18:20] <Nasser> hi
[18:21] <_methods> jrtappers: have you gotten the integrated to work at all?
[18:21] <katsumeblisk> jrtappers: This may help. I just Google'd it. I can't really do much else. Sorry. http://askubuntu.com/questions/108758/runt-integrated-intel-graphics-card-nvidia-pcie-graphics-card
[18:21] <Eldrek> hi im trying to install ubuntu for the first time, but the screen just goes black when I select install from grub
[18:21] <Vivekananda> katsumeblisk: After removing the line I get a new error .Weird ---http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM
[18:21] <PsyMar> Eldrek: are you on a laptop?
[18:21] <Eldrek> yes
[18:21] <PsyMar> do you have a brightness key on your keyboard/
[18:21] <PsyMar> if so, turn up the brightness, that worked for me
[18:22] <jrtappers> _methods, It works on 7, and it shows the shutdown animation, the rest of the time it shows black screen, but not in sleep, so it is getting told to show a black screen
[18:22] <Eldrek> yes, but the backlight was on
[18:22] <PsyMar> Eldrek: The darkest setting on linux is not "dark" but "completely black"
[18:22] <PsyMar> at least, on the version of ubuntu and the computer I have
[18:22] <_methods> jrtappers: hrmm i've got 4 mon i'm trying to get working
[18:22] <_methods> haven't found much about getting more than 2 running
[18:22] <Eldrek> so its normal for the backlight to be on with no image on screen?
[18:22] <PsyMar> I had the same problem, turning up brightness worked
[18:22] <PsyMar> I don't know if that's "normal" but that's what happened to me
[18:22] <Eldrek> ok ill try and report back
[18:23] <Eldrek> my only brightness key is fn + arrows though does that matter
[18:24] <jrtappers> Ok, secondly, how do I set up an ssh server to only allow reverse ssh connections, nothing else?
[18:24] <Rishabh_> .help
[18:25] <chimeracoder> jrib: still doesn't work
[18:25] <Industrial> Is there a list of services the Unity environment starts? I would like my window manager set up to be as compatible as possible. Right now I have unstyled gtk for example ...
[18:25] <chimeracoder> 'Non system disk - Press any key to reboot'
[18:25] <PsyMar> Eldrek: doubt it matters
[18:25] <Nasser> the weather indicator crashes when searching for location, any suggestion? or if there i any similar app?
[18:25] <Vivekananda> Anyone can take a look at my files and tell me why even google download is giving error in the sources file. This is sources for ubuntu lucid and I am runnig apt-get update --- http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM
[18:25] <vfw> Industrial: service
[18:26] <Rishabh_> Ditto for the weather app.
[18:26] <Industrial> vfw: yes, service.
[18:27] <Nasser> thank you
[18:27] <ranman> why did I join this channel?
[18:27] <vfw> Industrial: service --status-all
[18:27] <Industrial> ah.
[18:27] <PsyMar> ranman: in your IRC client's defaults?
[18:27] <jrib> chimeracoder: there are some fairly explicit instructions here http://maketecheasier.com/install-ubuntu-12-10-in-macbook-air/2012/11/08 .  Is this what you tried yesterday?
[18:27] <vfw> Industrial: See man service
[18:27] <evon> How do I get Ubuntu to add a program I downloaded to add it to the lens and put an icon in the sidebar.  Right now I'm running the program from a directory in my Downloads folder
[18:27] <chimeracoder> jrib: yes
[18:28] <Industrial> vfw, this is not at desktop level. The system still does this if I am in i3wm, not Unity.
[18:28] <jrib> chimeracoder: ah, I guess that's mostly the same as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick .   I m using a laptop and till now np , but today my ati config set my resolution to 4000*4000 and it s kinda impossible 'due i m sure my lapt it s quite ancient and ... how can i set it manually ? tnx dudes
[18:29] <Industrial> so what do I need to set up to make it look like in Unity
[18:29] <Industrial> Node scrollbars, etc.
[18:29] <vfw> evon: First, I would suggest moving it somewhere else
[18:29] <njd001> !justask
[18:29] <Industrial> Nice*
[18:29] <njd001> :D
[18:29] <Eldrek> ok, brightness didn't fix it
[18:29] <njd001> i like that !
[18:29] <vfw> evon: What application is it?
[18:29] <evon> vfm what folder would be ideal?
[18:29] <Vivekananda> anone ??
[18:29] <evon> vfm: Aptana Studio
[18:29] <zykotick9> Eldrek: have you tried nomodeset?
[18:30] <vfw> evon: /opt/
[18:30] <jrib> Industrial: probably running gnome-settings-daemon will do it... if you don't mind running gnome-settings-daemon.  I just setup ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[18:30] <Eldrek> zykotick9 I tried typing it in the grub parameters
[18:30] <Vivekananda>  Anyone can take a look at my files and tell me why even google download is giving error in the sources file. This is sources for ubuntu lucid and I am runnig apt-get update --- http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM
[18:30] <peeps[work]> does anyone here know if i can connect from ubuntu to windows via remote desktop "With Network Level Authentication"
[18:30] <zykotick9> Eldrek: ok.  just checking.
[18:30] <PsyMar> Eldrek: how much RAM does your computer have?
[18:30] <Eldrek> zykotick9 is that the correct way?
[18:30] <Eagleman> Can i chroot a user to a directory and allow it to use scp?
[18:31] <zykotick9> !nomodeset > Eldrek
[18:31] <vfw> evon: And then put a symlink to the executable someplace like /usr/bin
[18:32] <peeps[work]> i am setting up my windows to enable remote desktop, and there are two options, just not sure if ubuntu supports the more secure one.  "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote Desktop"   or "Allow connections only from computers running Remote Desktop with Network Level Authentication"
[18:32] <vfw> evon: sudo ln -s /opt/newapp/my-new-app-executable /usr/bin/
[18:32] <vfw> evon: Just make sure it is unique in name
[18:33] <vfw> evon: ... that the command name does not already exist on your system...
[18:33] <Eldrek> PsyMar 8gb ram
[18:33] <evon> VFM ok i did all that using nautilus
[18:34] <jrib> vfw, evon: good idea to use /usr/local/bin for things you install yourself imo
[18:34] <Eldrek> zykotick9 I've been to the page the bot linked me, but it doesn't seem to say how to put the command in?
[18:34] <jrib> Eagleman: yes, search "man sshd_config" for chroot
[18:34] <vfw> jrib: Good point.
[18:34] <ioria> peeps[work]: may that is valid only for Win remote desk... i'm not sure
[18:35] <vfw> evon: jrib ... but no big deal either way.
[18:35] <zykotick9> Eldrek: i'm pretty sure it must be... if it's from the livecd i have no idea, from grub you can use 'e' to edit a line (for a one time test)
[18:36] <Eldrek> alright, that's what I did. it didn't do anything different though
[18:36] <vfw> evon: As jrib suggests, it would be a bit more proper to place the symlink in /usr/local/bin (as long as it's in your path), (less crowded there too).
[18:36] <evon> vfm jrib. ok I will move it there
[18:37] <vfw> jrib: Thank you for the correction/constructive criticism
[18:37]  * jrib nods
[18:38] <Vivekananda> hello
[18:38] <Eldrek> is there nothing else I can try?
[18:38] <Eagleman> jrib, the thing is is that i cannot use scp:  This service allows sftp connections only.
[18:38] <VlanX> I'm trying to umount a remote NFS folder, but nautilus tells me /media/Server was not found in /proc/mounts.  What can i do?
[18:39] <evon> vfm jrib. is making a link using nautilus the same as making a symling?
[18:39] <jrib> evon: yes
[18:39] <evon> vfm jrib. Ok I did all that. So will the lense pick it up now?
[18:39] <vfw> evon: I never used nautilus for that purpose, (good to know it works...)
[18:40] <vfw> evon: lense?
[18:40] <jrib> Eagleman: the man page says you need to provide certain things (like a shehll and some /dev nodes) if you want more than sftp.  I guess that includes scp too. Did you do that?
[18:40] <bizhan_> HI the current LTS release of Ubuntu is 12.04, what would be the next release version? Thx
[18:40] <ioria> Eldrek: are you having "Cannot display this video mode" ?
[18:40] <vfw> bizhan_: Hint:  2 years apart
[18:40] <evon> vfm jrib. In unity when you press the windows button. You are able to search for apps by typing the name
[18:40] <bizhan_> vfw: 14.04 thx
[18:41] <evon> vfm jrib. I also want it to show up in the sidebar (ubuntu 12.04)
[18:41] <Eldrek> ioria: when I try to select anything in grub the screen just goes black afterward, I'm not seeing any errors
[18:41] <jrib> evon: I've only used unity for about 2 minutes so I can't help much with that
[18:41] <evon> jrib: gosh darnit
[18:42] <ioria> Eldrek: you can enter in grub but the system doesn't start , correct ?
[18:42] <Eldrek> yes
[18:42] <vfw> evon: I have only limited exerience with Unity as well, and I use Alt-F2 alot
[18:42] <bizhan_> question, is there a plan for integration of the systemd into Ubuntu? Thx
[18:42] <MO_Handes> what is a good editor for php? I want something like gedit that hase auto-indent and automatically insert tabs
[18:43] <jrib> evon: I've seen that question answered here before, so you can stick around and wait for someone to show up.  I think people drag icons into the sidebar somehow but it may require a .desktop file to already exist -- not really sure
[18:44] <ioria> Eldrek: you can try to modify the boot option erasing voices regarding the video mode
[18:44] <Eldrek> what does that mean
[18:44] <BillyZane2> hahaha, i love xfce
[18:44] <Eldrek> I've done nomodeset if that's what you mean
[18:45] <vfw> evon: I'm an xfce user
[18:45] <ioria> Eldrek: do you remember the boot option full line that you are modifying ?
[18:46] <Eldrek> I typed nomodeset after
[18:46] <Eldrek> after 'quiet splash'
[18:46] <evon> vfm oh ok. I will keep searchin then
[18:46] <ioria> Eldrek: yes, that's a way
[18:47] <ioria> Eldrek: but you can also erasing others parameters
[18:47] <ioria> erase
[18:47] <Eldrek> what should I erase
[18:48] <addi> hey guys, does the WUBI installer for Ubuntu 12.10 not work on Windows 8? fails to open for me :X
[18:48] <fm> what is the name of the compiz plugin that allows me to maximize a window by dragging it to the edge?
[18:48] <Eldrek> addi I have found that wubi doesn't work with UEFI
[18:48] <ioria> Eldrek:can you paste the line ?
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> addi  do'nt try wubi, you'll get frustrated
[18:49] <orudie> is there an equivalent to a ctrl+alt+del key in ubuntu ?
[18:49] <addi> Eldrek, custom built PC with Windows 8 installed separately. still UEFI? :P
[18:49] <ultreia> uefi is part of the bios
[18:49] <Eldrek> I have no idea in that case addi, thats just my experience with my laptop
[18:50] <vfw> addi: Not sure if it does or not, but I would recomend a real insall, either on a USB drive or an internal one. wubi is ok, sort of and sort of not so ok, it's just for demo purposes IMO
[18:50] <katsumeblisk> addi: Most mobos come with UEFI.
[18:50] <katsumeblisk> addi: At least new ones.
[18:50] <Eldrek> ioria I will rejoin irc from my phone and send you the line
[18:50] <katsumeblisk> addi: UEFI != Secure Boot
[18:50] <addi> ah, right, UEFI = graphical BIOS
[18:50] <addi> got confused, sorry
[18:51] <addi> okay, will install via USB then, thanks
[18:51] <addi> just that I've installed Mint a lot of times through WUBI, so wanted to make sure if Windows 8 was the problem
[18:51] <Eagleman> jrib, i doubt that will work, becuase it only allows sftp connections somehow
[18:52] <jrib> Eagleman: doubt what will work?
[18:52] <vfw> katsumeblisk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[18:52] <katsumeblisk> vfw: Why are you telling me this?
[18:52] <katsumeblisk> vfw: I didn't ask for help.
[18:52] <vfw> addi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[18:52] <Eagleman> jrib:  (like a shehll and some /dev nodes) if you want more than sftp.  I guess that includes scp too. Did you do that?
[18:53] <Vivekananda> hey katsumeblisk howdy
[18:53] <Vivekananda> I thought you had gone
[18:53] <jrib> Eagleman: yes, what about it?
[18:53] <Vivekananda> any chance you can take a look again and tell me what the deal is ??
[18:53] <BillyZane2> i got a question, you know how on irc, when you join or leave it's all... BillyZane (name@ip address ) has joined #ubuntu
[18:53] <Vivekananda>  Anyone can take a look at my files and tell me why even google download is giving error in the sources file. This is sources for ubuntu lucid and I am runnig apt-get update --- http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM
 Industrial: service
[18:53] <Eldrek> Okay
[18:54] <BillyZane2> one sec
[18:54] <Eagleman> jrib, i havent found a way to use scp with ForceCommand internal-sftp
[18:55] <jrib> Eagleman: ok, but this is a different question
[18:55] <Eagleman> jrib, this is exactly the same question: Can i chroot a user to a directory and allow it to use scp?
[18:55] <Eldrek> Who wanted my grub parameters? Can't find you in the list
[18:55] <vfw> Vivekananda: May be that you have a malformed URL in sources.list
[18:55] <jrib> Eagleman: you don't need ForceCommand to do that
[18:55] <Eagleman> the chrooting part works, however scp wont work
[18:55] <jwtiyar> i cant comment,share post, with ff inn linux(ubuntu)
[18:56] <jrib> Eagleman: well, can you ssh in and get a shell?
[18:56] <Eagleman> no
[18:56] <jrib> Eagleman: so make that work first and my guess is that then you can scp too
[18:56] <vfw> Vivekananda: Sorry, still reading
[18:57] <ioria> Eldrek: here
[18:57] <Eagleman> jrib, now it starts complaining about:  /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[18:57] <Eldrek> Ahh thank you
[18:57] <orudie> ubuntu 12.04 the screen just grayed out and I couldn't pres anything, but the mouse was moving. I had to turn off the computer. Any ideas ?
[18:57] <orudie> this happened when I was using firefox
[18:58] <vfw> Vivekananda: Did you do  apt-get update ?
[18:58] <jrib> Eagleman: yes, you need to provide that in the chroot afaict
[18:58] <Vivekananda> vfw: not an issue and I have two errors so can sort it later. I will do it now . Right now I want to request help for this ---https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[18:59] <Vivekananda> I meant I will do apt get again now but I can sort theses errors later
[18:59] <Eagleman> jrib, just copy /bin/bash to the chroot dir?
[18:59] <Vivekananda> but the emacs is for now I really need that .
[18:59] <disharmonic> hmm shouldn't apt-get upgrade install all updates?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  yes, after sudo apt-get update
[18:59] <blabli> hello
[19:00] <jhutchins> orudie: If it happens again, you could try ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console and at least restart X if not figure out what the problem is.
[19:00] <jgcampbell300> hello
[19:00] <jhutchins> orudie: Same thing if you can access it via ssh.
[19:00] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, apparently XBMC from a PPA needed dist-upgrade. Strange
[19:00] <jrib> Eagleman: that probably won't be enough (since it won't have access to the shared libraries).  I don't know the best way, you'll have to search for documentation about it
[19:01] <SuperNoeMan> does anybody use vrome or vimium on ubuntu?
[19:01] <SuperNoeMan> I need help with it
[19:02] <Eldrek> Ioria check your pms
[19:03] <jgcampbell300> may be wrong place but looking for advice on a situation I am trying to set up. I have 3 diffrent networks I need to have the three windows servers on each location to have the same files. I was thinking of building 3 ICOP routers with VPN on all three then build 3 web servers and installing owncloud on all three to sync files on all three windows systems. My question = does this sound like a
[19:03] <jgcampbell300> good path to get the job done or does someone know of a better way?
[19:03] <ioria> Eldrek: have you tried 'text' instead of splash ?
[19:06] <Vivekananda> vfw: hey you around
[19:06] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; if one server was compromised (like by hackers) would that make the changed files be automatically spread to the others?
[19:06] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: howdy I was trying this . https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[19:06] <Vivekananda> for ubuntu lucid actually and does not seem to work
[19:06] <Vivekananda> any tips ?? ideas?
[19:08] <Adeeb> I need help --- who knows the channel for getting help with android, I tried "#android-dev" --- I can't seem to connect
[19:09] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, I have had this thought ... maybe versioning would help in combo with regular backups
[19:09] <Eldrek> #android? Your Nick needs to be registered there iirc
[19:09] <jrib> Eagleman: there's some discussion here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9853/restricting-an-ssh-scp-sftp-user-to-a-directory One thing they mention is that scponly has a "scponlyc" variant that also allows for chroot.  That may be easier for you to setup; you may want to look further into it
[19:10] <Adeeb> Eldrek, thanks!
[19:10] <Eldrek> No problem adeeb
[19:10] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, of corse the vpn would make it pretty secure wouldnt it ... if i set it up to only be opened from the 3 ips setup so basicly the only connections accepted is the three locations and a admin computer off site
[19:12] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; will these three servers be at the same physical location?
[19:14] <venik212> anyone knows anything about wireless drivers for an IBM t43p?  I have a lot of trouble with the ipw2200 driver under Lubuntu 12.10 32 bit
[19:15] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, no basicly i have 3 locations each location has a network setup they work on .. sorry didnt say i wanted to set the file share stuff up on there extra ips ... so the only thing that could communicate on those ips would be the ipcop routers throu eather ipsec or openvpn ... plan on telling it to deny all other connections ... then use the vpn to transfer the files ... of corse i just
[19:15] <jgcampbell300> thought maybe the lans' they are useing would be my week link
[19:16] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; could be. ip addresses can be spoofed, including trusted addresses behind a router
[19:17] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, so i should problaby find a way to use there mac's for connections ?
[19:17] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; mac addresses are easy to spoof
[19:17] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, really ... i didnt know that
[19:18] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, any suggestions ?
[19:18] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; you can set your mac address from ifconfig :)
[19:18] <ni291187> irc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe
[19:19] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; I don't know the answers, only the security problems
[19:19] <_methods> ultreia: what's wrong with a site to site VPN setup?
[19:19] <hilo> hellooooo I am writing s script to set up some connections and mounts. It reads in a password and I want to hide it from echoing to the terminal. I used this website's advice but I get strange output. http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/278/hide-password-entry-in-bournebash-shell-script/ Output in my script which occurs after entering the password (which is hidden as expected): eol = M-^?; eol2 = M-^?; swtch = M-^?;\nixany iutf8\n-echo
[19:20] <ultreia> _method; jgcampbell300 was going to have servers autosyncing files without supervision
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> hilo  aks in #bash
[19:21] <_methods> ahh
[19:21] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, well right now they have share folder at one location on a win 2003 server ... behind firebox x edge routers with vpn ... what do you think about the security of that setup
[19:21] <marianne> can anyone recommend a good compiler for ubuntu 12.4?
[19:22] <_methods> marianne: GCC
[19:22] <ultreia> To think like a hacker, the sworn enemy of all servers, that would be a very tempting target and they'd think of ways to break in
[19:22] <marianne> methods: GCC?
[19:23] <_methods> http://gcc.gnu.org/
[19:23] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, if you had to pick between the two methods i have described witch would you go with, and is there anything you would change ?
[19:23] <marianne> methods: awesome! Thanks
[19:23] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; I'm not a security expert, but if anyone has ever broken into a setup like yours, then you will be targetted
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !gcc | marianne
[19:23] <_methods> marianne: np
[19:24] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, accualy maybe a live network monitor that me and my partner could keep an eye on
[19:25] <Eldrek_> my screen just goes black when I try to select install from grub, does anyone know how to fix? nomodeset didn't work
[19:25] <marianne> ubottu: yes, going to write some new stuff.... and i really don't like reinventing the wheel  :-)
[19:25] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, no bigie ... i am mostly here to bounce ideas off some,, helps to talk to somone once and a while to get a better game plan
[19:25] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; what I would do (personally) is have a second net interface on each server which would be the only interface important commands can take place on, and have that separate interface be on a different network
[19:26] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; then to keep that control net interface a secret
[19:27] <nerdshank> anyone ever find a fix for aetheros AR9485 wifi issue yet
[19:27] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, ya i have been checking into that ... and there is something i was reading up on i think it was called a serial connection from isp ... havent got to the details yet but people on some fourms were saying it is a very secure way to communicat to your servers
[19:28] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, i like that thought ... have seen other peoples networks setup like that
[19:29] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; it would be safer anyways, someone would have to guess the control interface's net address and then match that to the server they want to hack
[19:29] <ioria> Eldrek: pm
[19:29] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, agread
[19:30] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, what do you think about some form of live network monitor ?
[19:30] <ultreia> jgcampbell300; sounds good, to have someone live watching activity
[19:32] <jgcampbell300> ultreia, well thank you very much for your input, think im gona set something up to test
[19:32] <ultreia> ok
[19:32] <ultreia> you are welcome
[19:33] <abailarri> Does anyone here have managed to install gnome shell extensions? I get an error when accessing the web extensions, and I have the latest version of Gnome3
[19:33] <test12378> Hello, pretty often and annoyingly, all the text in the menus and window headers and most places becomes unreadable, i cant even describe it.
[19:33] <jgcampbell300> see you guys later
[19:33] <test12378> how can i fix this from happening.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> test12378  then show us a printscreen, use imagebin
[19:36] <test12378> i cant even read the link of the imagebin to tell you what it is...
[19:36] <test12378> hold on
[19:36] <vfw> test12378: copy and paste?
[19:37] <Ziber> I don't FTP from the commandline often, I've logged in successfully, and I've put "get file", can I assume it's transfering?
[19:37] <toms_> hi. I am new here
[19:37] <test12378> imagebin.org/244082
[19:37] <test12378> zimber, yes
[19:37] <test12378> sometimes it takea a while
[19:37] <test12378> it gives no progress updates
[19:37] <Ziber> well, it's a VM image. I expect it'll take a while, but there's no progress update.
[19:38] <jhutchins> Ziber: There are cl ftp clients that will show progress
[19:38] <Ziber> I'm just using basic "ftp".
[19:39] <test12378> yeah, its useful in a pinch
[19:39] <Ziber> As long as I've confirmed that it's probably not frozen (as it looks) then we're good.
[19:39] <test12378> monkey or vfw, did you see the link i posted?
[19:39] <nu11> ?
[19:39] <tga> greetings
[19:39] <test12378> hello
[19:39] <jhutchins> Ziber: You can check the drive light, run iostat, or just watch the file size.
[19:40] <tga> my radeon hd6900 with flgrx is causing me a world of trouble on 12.10
[19:40] <tga> everything crashes like crazy
[19:40] <Ziber> Watching filesize seems to be the easiest.
[19:40] <test12378> or if i remember correctly, the cursor is blinking
[19:40] <tga> any hints on getting flgrx working properly?
[19:40] <tga> ugh, make that fglrx
[19:41] <nu11> ?
[19:41] <test12378> can anyone help me with the text problem. Its been bugging me for a very long time and restarting seems like an extreme solution but its the only one i have found to work
[19:42] <Pici> nu11: can we help you?
[19:42] <test12378> and obviously, the text works fine on the other ttyl like this irssi client
[19:42] <jhutchins> test12378: Not without more information of what your actual problem is.
[19:42] <test12378> did you not see from the picture?
[19:42] <jhutchins> test12378: Are you running gnome-terminal in X?
[19:43] <test12378> no
[19:43] <Vivekananda> hello
[19:43] <test12378> i used ctrl+alt+F1 and used that term
[19:43] <Vivekananda> anyone willing to take a look at my emacs 24 ubuntu lucid install problems??
[19:43] <ultreia> test12378; in your eyes (your opinion) what is the problem with the text?
[19:43] <Vivekananda> I used this link --- https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs and got this ---http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM
[19:44] <test12378> once more, did you see the picture. I posted the link a little bit up
[19:44] <nu11> ?
[19:44] <ultreia> test12378; I just want to know what you think of the text
[19:44] <jhutchins> test12378: You're forcing us to do a lot of guessing.  Maybe it's a problem with the framebuffer's video mode, try changing it.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  better contact Olivier Berten
[19:44] <zykotick9> jhutchins: test12378's issue looks more font related...
[19:45] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: I know of no other way to install emacs 24 in ubuntu. Should I build from source ??
[19:45] <jhutchins> test12378: btw if you use complete urls many clients make them clickable.
[19:45] <toms_> hi
[19:45] <test12378> ok, i am sorry about that
[19:45] <stef1a> anyone know how to use grep on not a file but a string?
[19:45] <ultreia> test12378; you just said it was unacceptable, but in what ways is it unacceptable
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  ask the maintainer, Olivier Berten, i'm sure he can tell you that
[19:46] <toms_> I wante ask some
[19:46] <test12378> the letters are not of the arabic kind
[19:46] <jhutchins> test12378: wait, you said it was on the consoles - that's a shot of the GUI.  Is it happening on both?
[19:46] <test12378> they are random placements of pixels that look like they came out of conways game of life
[19:46] <test12378> the problem is not the term, if i implied that, i am sorry. The problem is only in the gui
[19:46] <venik212> anyone knows anything about wireless drivers for an IBM t43p?  I have a lot of trouble with the ipw2200 driver under Lubuntu 12.10 32 bit
[19:48] <jhutchins> test12378: I have had EXACTLY this problem with a Dell Optiplex GX280
[19:48] <NielsMkn> hello everyone
[19:48] <jhutchins> test12378: It has an Intel 910 - what is your graphics chipset?
[19:48] <test12378> let me check
[19:49] <toms_> Hi everyone! I am new there. I wante ask about xubuntu..what is terminal? and why we need terminal?
[19:49] <NielsMkn> I have made a shell script and I want to run it directly by double-clicking instead of clicking run in the message box with options (Run in terminal, display, run )
[19:50] <jhutchins> toms_: You need the terminal to learn the command line interface and becomre computer literate.  It gives you much more powerful control of the computer and is essential for advanced configuration and troubleshooting.
[19:50] <ultreia> test12378; it's a problem of google chrome using the wrong intl code page. you'll notice that text rendered by the system is ok
[19:50] <jhutchins> toms_: It is more convenient that switching to the virtual consoles when you are already working in X.
[19:51] <jhutchins> ultreia: For me it extended to all menus.
[19:52] <ultreia> jhutchins; I'm looking at the same sceencap everyone else is looking at
[19:52] <jhutchins> test12378: As far as I can figure either one of the common font files was corrupt (possibly as distributed) or something is corrupting that portion of the video memory.
[19:52] <jhutchins> test12378: Are you completely up-to-date with all packages?
[19:53] <test12378> it is an intel chipset but i dont know how to paste into the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal
[19:53] <toms_> thanks.
[19:53] <test12378> i will have to come back in a couple of hours if you guys are still here though, i have class.
[19:53] <jhutchins> test12378: You can use lynx or pastebinit, or install gdm for a console mouse.
[19:53] <jhutchins> test12378: I don't remember if it went away when I updated or just when I switched to xfce.
[19:53] <ultreia> jhutchins; looking at it, at least half the screen is in normal font, and it's systematically divided into what is in the right font vs what is in the wrong
[19:54] <ArmoredDragoon> is anybody familiar with setting up zfs in ubuntu?
[19:54] <jhutchins> ultreia: I never had chrome on my system, so I doubt that's related.
[19:54] <ArmoredDragoon> I'm trying to figure out if it is necessary to specify disks by ID or if by /dev/sdX is ok when creating the zfs pool
[19:54] <NielsMkn> gtg later
[19:55] <toms_> And where and how I can install desktop weather app?
[19:55] <ArmoredDragoon> some guides say by ID, some say by sdX h andle is ok, not sure which one is best in case e.g. hardware changes
[19:55] <Doxin> I'm thinking about getting an ssd, any pointers to nice entry level ssds that play nice with ubuntu?
[19:56] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: pretty much all SSDs should work fine
[19:56] <Doxin> hmm
[19:56] <jhutchins> toms_: aptitide search weather?
[19:56] <ArmoredDragoon> the samsung ones in particular are very good
[19:56] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: why those in particular?
[19:56] <ultreia> ArmoredDragoon; by sdx is more flexible, unless you plan on it being the system drive
[19:56] <ArmoredDragoon> some SSD's have had issues of varying sorts
[19:57] <ArmoredDragoon> OCZ, even intel ones
[19:57] <ArmoredDragoon> samsung in my experience though has been flawless
[19:57] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: it's no problem having the root mounted on an ssd?
[19:57] <ArmoredDragoon> which may be due to the fact that samsung makes ALL of the parts, whereas other OEM's have different people make different parts
[19:57] <ArmoredDragoon> I can't think of any issues with it, I have two systems running root on an SSD
[19:57] <ultreia> ArmoredDragoon; does zfs provide uid for a mount command to use?
[19:58] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: what's the boot time like?
[19:58] <toms_> I search weather desktop for xubuntu
[19:58] <altker128> Hey all.  I'm using Maverick (10.04 LTS) and I'm not able to find out where to point the repositories to , I can't apt-get stuff.
[19:58] <ArmoredDragoon> ultreia: not sure, I'm not that well versed in the deeper parts of linux, I just know that sdX mount order isn't always the same if hardware changes
[19:58] <jhutchins> toms_: There are two for xfce.
[19:58] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: its better for sure, the main benefit though is having everything snappier overall
[19:58] <Doxin> hmm
[19:59] <TechSmurf> Anyone have ideas for performance improvement of a 14x2TB raid 6 md array?
[19:59] <jhutchins> TechSmurf: faster processor and more cache on the controller.
[19:59] <TechSmurf> md array, no controller
[20:00] <_Trullo> 14x2.. I thought 7 was optimal on a raid6 setup?
[20:00] <hilo> Okay so I came in here asking about masking passwords in a bash script, and MonkeyDust directed me to #bash. Over in #bash, they basically told me NO do not pass passwords as arguments ever. They recommended using a credentials file backed on a ram based filesystem. What is the best filesystem on ubuntu to use for this purpose? Also, in general, can anyone elaborate on the risks of doing so, or using a filesystem that is persistent
[20:00] <hilo> (since this is the recommended way of mounting samba from /etc/fstab as far as I can tell)?
[20:01] <ArmoredDragoon> ultreia: right now I'm looking at doing "zpool create vol0 raidz /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd" but can the order of those disks change?
[20:01] <TechSmurf> _Trullo: I've seen a fair bit of argument about optimal array geometry, but either way I'm not looking for crazy performance, just sane performance
[20:01] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: I'm comparing drives, and the samsung ones seem rather overpriced, twice as much as this adata disk, but a lot slower on write.
[20:01] <ArmoredDragoon> I don't know how linux keeps track of that
[20:02] <ultreia> ArmoredDragoon; usually drive order doesn't randomly change
[20:02] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: it's rather similar to memory really, some brands are finicky compared to others
[20:02] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: I've never had any trouble with el-cheapo memory either :P
[20:02] <dbrom_> hello : at the moment I am using tar to compress folders that are betweek .5 TB to almost 4 TB . I would like to split the tar.ball and limit the size to .5 TB
[20:02] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: it seems like a rather stark difference though
[20:03] <dpurgert> dbrom_, tar doens't inherently compress (though, you can zip as an option)...
[20:03] <ultreia> ArmoredDragoon; what is recommended as "best" is using a "zpool" with a zconf file to specify the order of the zdisks
[20:03] <ArmoredDragoon> ultreia: the ZFS page says you should only use /dev/sdX for test builds, but /dev/by-id for a daily driver, only thing is by-id means you have to change it should a disk fail and you need to replace
[20:03] <ArmoredDragoon> hmm
[20:03] <TechSmurf> Right now I'm only getting 476 iops across 10GbE iscsi
[20:03] <dbrom_> im using tar -cvzf
[20:03] <BluesKaj> altker128, check your package manager , make sure your repos are enabled , or open a terminal and do sudo apt-get update
[20:03] <in^> @kostkon: didn't trust the d/l site to d/g so switched to Chromium :-)
[20:04] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: yeah it sometimes comes down to which brand you prefer, though I am on my first samsung 840 pro and I've found it leagues ahead of anything else I've had
[20:04] <in^> @kostkon: all is well
[20:04] <dpurgert> dbrom_, right, but I don't thing you get an option of how the gzip running alongside the tar is going to chunk the tarball
[20:04] <Doxin> hmm'
[20:04] <BluesKaj> in^, no need for @ on irc
[20:04] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: my first SSD was intel, second one was patriot, third was OCZ, and my fourth samsung
[20:04] <in^> habit :-)
[20:04] <dbrom_> What do I do then
[20:05] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: best way to research this IMO is to look at reviews on amazon and newegg
[20:05] <dpurgert> easier solution would be tar -cvf tar.ball (stuff)
[20:05] <Doxin> hmm
[20:05] <dpurgert> then gzip with whatever option to chunk the tarball at 512 MB
[20:05] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: looking at a local equivalent of those
[20:05] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: make sure to peruse the negative reviews especially, as murphy's law always hits somebody, and when it does they voice their opinions loudly
[20:06] <Doxin> true
[20:06] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: I understand, no need to buy from there though, just read their reviews
[20:06] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: I'm going with the samsung one though, it's not as if I can't afford it.
[20:06] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: I used to do that, buy local but read reviews online to see if there are any problems
[20:06] <dbrom_> can i just sub gzip in for tar where tar -cvzf folder  folder.tar.gz
[20:07] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: still buying online, just avoiding $50 in shipping costs or whatever insane amount they charge.
[20:07] <altker128> BluesKaj: Repos are enabled, but I think the repos need to be pointed some place else (i.e. "long term archived")
[20:07] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: e.g. hit your local frys/microcenter/tiger, find the model in your price range, then use your smartphone or just write down the model and look it up on newegg/amazon
[20:08] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: what country you live in?
[20:08] <zykotick9> altker128: fyi, 10.04 is Lucid.  Maverick is EOL i believe.
[20:08] <dpurgert> dbrom_, what're you trying to do exactly?   I get an error when accessing the web extensions, and I have the latest version of Gnome3
[20:08] <ArmoredDragoon> ah ok, sorry just another ignorant american here :D
[20:09] <airglide> hi, i need some help, I think I made a mistake, I wanted to change the icon for a specific mimetype, now i can't open assogiate I get the following error: (assogiate:690): gnome-vfs-modules-WARNING **: Could not initialize inotify(assogiate:690): libgnomevfs-CRITICAL **: gnome_vfs_monitor_cancel: assertion `handle != NULL' failed terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Gnome::Vfs::exception'
[20:09] <ultreia> dbrom_ - you can at least use dd to split files
[20:09] <dbrom_> I have 5 TB of data that Id like to compress down into X number of 400GB files
[20:09] <BluesKaj> altker128, pointed someplace else ? , check your /etc/apt/sources.list , maybe pastebin it so we can see what's happening
[20:09] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: but ya the browse the reviews extensively, I'm leary of buying *anything* online myself
[20:09] <Guest76604> hello
[20:09] <dbrom_> what would the command look like
[20:09] <dpurgert> dbrom_, OK, but _why_ the size limit?
[20:10] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: the return policy on this site isn't too bad, sure it costs you €5 in shipping, but it works.
[20:10] <dbrom_> so I have an idea .... when I search it tells me I am able to do splitting with TAR
[20:10] <ArmoredDragoon> Doxin: newegg and amazon both are good sources of reviews IMO, just hit them and then buy from your place of choice
[20:10] <llutz> dbrom_: tar -cpz /whatever | split -d -b 400G mybackup.tar.gz
[20:10] <dbrom_> hard drive size
[20:10] <ArmoredDragoon> anyways I'm off to create a raid-5 array
[20:10] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: hmm
[20:10] <dbrom_> tried that doesnt work
[20:10] <zykotick9> dbrom_: compressing large files like that (gz) is a good way to loose the entire thing...
[20:11] <altker128> zykotick9: Sorry, you're right.  So are the Maverick repos offline?
[20:11] <ultreia> dbrom_ - something like "dd if=infile of=outfile-n iseek=n count=n"
[20:11] <oliver_g2> hello
[20:11] <dbrom_> what do you think i should you then
[20:11] <zykotick9> altker128: yes, see "/msg ubottu eol" for upgrade details.  i'd fresh install if i where you.
[20:11] <oliver_g2> how can I hide my chat status, so that it doesn't go to Unavailable if the screensaver kicks in?
[20:11] <altker128> zykotick9: I don't want to upgrade right now, I just need to install some stuff from repos
[20:11] <oliver_g2> (in 12.04, with Empathy)
[20:12] <Doxin> ArmoredDragoon: that reminds me, better check if I even have any spare drive bays :P
[20:12] <dpurgert> llutz, spiffy, I just ran across that myself -- kind of a pain to stitch it back together though
[20:12] <zykotick9> altker128: 'cause using unsupported software is a great idea.
[20:12] <jrtappers> Hello, how do I set up a limited user for reverse SSH only?
[20:12] <ultreia> dbrom_ - for appropriate values of n, that should work
[20:12] <altker128> zykotick9: I agree with you, but right now I don't have time to change everything.
[20:12] <dpurgert> dbrom_, OK ... I don't follow  -- you have ~5T of data that you need to cram onto a 400G drive?!
[20:13] <llutz> dpurgert: cat mybackup.tar.gz*| tar -xzv
[20:13] <BluesKaj> !10.04
[20:13] <dpurgert> llutz, OK, that's a _LOT_ simpler than what this site showed, lol
[20:14] <dbrom_> across a few drives
[20:14] <BluesKaj> altker128, your sources should still be available til April
[20:14] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: for maverick... i don't think so.
[20:14] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, read above
[20:14] <ultreia> dbrom_; does that dd command line look like a start?
[20:14] <llutz> dbrom_: anyway, using tar-gzip is dangerous. a single broken bit will make most of the data ... gone
[20:15] <dpurgert> dbrom_, yeah ... "most" meaning "all" in a majority of the cases...
[20:15] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: "read above"
[20:16] <dbrom_> not reall...
[20:16] <abyss42> Is there a way to convert rpm packeges to deb packages?
[20:16] <zykotick9> abyss42: bad idea - but it's called alien
[20:16] <altker128> BluesKaj: pastebin.com/GRyzmVUS
[20:16] <newtoubuntu> hello everyone.. I was hoping to get some help in this channel
[20:17] <dpurgert> newtoubuntu, what can we help you with today?
[20:17] <dbrom_> abyss42: Just better find the .deb then convert a file.... When a .rpm file is made its done in a different matter then a .deb
[20:17] <ultreia> dbrom_; so this wouldn't help? "dd if=archive_whole of=arc_seg1 iseek=400 count=400"
[20:17] <abyss42> zykotick9, why would it be such a bad idea? I am trying to convert oracle database servers rpm package to deb because it only has rpm packages. Has anyone ever had this issue
[20:18] <dbrom_> ultreia: do i compress the file then do the dd string
[20:18] <BluesKaj> !1010 | altker128
[20:19] <BluesKaj> !10.10 | altker128
[20:19] <dpurgert> dbrom_, yeah, you'd need to make the *.tgz file, then use dd to cut it up
[20:19] <andreas__> hey guys, I need somebody to help me setup my vpn client urgently. paying with paypal
[20:19] <Devaki> If i use Windows Installer for ubuntu, will i lose windows ? or will it be a optional ?
[20:19] <ultreia> dbrom_; you'd at least tar the file, like the others have said, you might not want to gzip it
[20:19] <dbrom_> im making a .tar with no compression now
[20:19] <dpurgert> Devaki, nope, you should be able to keep the win partition
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Devaki  you will create a space inside windows, get frustrated and think ubuntu is no good
[20:19] <andreas__> can someone please help me ? paying with paypal, its urgent for business needs
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> Devaki  don't use wubi
[20:20] <mc_teo> Hey, I was dual booting 12.04 with win7, and then I tried installing Solidworks on win7, which corrupted the grub (well, burg) installation on the MBR. I tried booting from my USB memory stick (from which I had originally installed 12.04), and it gave "OS not found". I needed some files on the ntfs partition, and after a day or two messing around with it, I just used the windows recovery cd to reinstall windows bootloader. Now that I've some time, I want
[20:20] <mc_teo> ed to reinstall burg, but when I try booting from the USB memory stick, it gives the same "OS not found". Any idea what could be the problem?
[20:20] <abyss42> Has anyone tried installing oracle database server on ubuntu?
[20:20] <andreas__> hello ?
[20:20] <dpurgert> andreas__, um ... do you have a valid VPN endpoint somewhere?
[20:20] <llutz> !ot | andreas__
[20:20] <Devaki> what's wubi ?
[20:20] <andreas__> yes I do
[20:21] <OerHeks> abyss42, maybe this page is any help with alien and install > http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/06/how-to-install-oracle-database-express-edition-11gr2-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html
[20:21] <andreas__> it is for ubuntu that I am asking support for :)
[20:21] <Devaki> MonkeyDust , probably. But keep in mind that i am a developer, not a facebook person :)
[20:21] <dpurgert> should be as simple as "connect to VPN ..." and then enter the parameters (least that's how it was for me)
[20:21] <Devaki> I an bare a couple of things.
[20:21] <altker128> BluesKaj: Are the repos available anywhere?
[20:21] <altker128> BluesKaj: I understand it's EOL and over.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> Devaki  wubi is the windows installer and i don't have facebook myself :)
[20:21] <dpurgert> Devaki, wubi is the Windows-based Ubuntu installer ... thing
[20:22] <dbrom_> All: making a small .tar file to work with
[20:22] <Devaki> I dont want to download inside the windows , i wanna install onto D:/
[20:22] <Devaki> but i dont want to use flash usb or cd or etc.
[20:22] <Devaki> I'm lazy right now :D
[20:22] <dpurgert> Devaki, no ... it's a windows-based installer... not "installs it as a windows program"
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> Devaki  what do you mean 'onto', if not 'inside'?
[20:23] <Devaki> don't be a grammar nazi, they're stupid.
[20:23] <penguin_> --- interruption
[20:23] <penguin_> does anyone here know what redshift is?
[20:23] <Tm_T> Devaki: please don't use that term
[20:24] <jpds> penguin_: Yes.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> penguin_  yes, it's physics and OT here
[20:24] <penguin_> it's not physics
[20:24] <jpds> MonkeyDust: It's not.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> penguin_  redshift is used to measure the speed and distance of stars
[20:24] <penguin_> i'm talking about the PROGRAM called redshift --- not the uh.. other stuff
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> ok
[20:24] <jpds> MonkeyDust: Sigh.
[20:24] <jpds> !info gtk-redshift | MonkeyDust
[20:24] <jrtappers> penguin_, the program changes monitor colour based on time
[20:25] <BluesKaj> altker128, http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[20:25] <penguin_> yeah ... so if you don't use redshift -- download it - sudo apt-get install redshift
[20:25] <hilo> What is the best filesystem on ubuntu to use for temporarily writing a credentials file to pass to another program? Also, in general, can anyone elaborate on the risks of doing so, or using a filesystem that is persistent vs. RAM backed (since this is the recommended way of mounting samba from /etc/fstab as far as I can tell)?
[20:25] <penguin_> redshift is AMAZING
[20:25] <jpds> penguin_: Dude.
[20:25] <penguin_> sorry
[20:25] <jpds> penguin_: People choose what they want to do.
[20:25] <Devaki> then wubi it is !
[20:26] <penguin_> yeah but what if they have not heard of redshift yet
[20:26] <ultreia> sounds weird having your monitor colors changing all the time
[20:26] <penguin_> it's actually quite nice
[20:26] <jpds> ultreia: It does it gradually.
[20:26] <penguin_> yeah
[20:26] <jrtappers> ultreia, It makes it less harsh at night
[20:26] <penguin_> it's so amazing
[20:26] <xangua> !ot
[20:26] <venik212> anyone here knows about wireless drivers for Thinkpads?
[20:26] <penguin_> if you wanna try it's super easy
[20:26] <dbrom_> ultreia:  have a tar file to work with No what
[20:26] <jrtappers> venik212, is there anything in addition drivers for it?
[20:27] <penguin_> sudo apt-get install redshift && redshift -t 6500:4700
[20:27] <jpds> penguin_: OK, enough.
[20:27] <penguin_> try it
[20:27] <ultreia> dbrom_; you decide how many segments you want, and from that decide the size of each segment
[20:27] <venik212> I believe that my wifi troubles all have to do with the ipw2200 driver
[20:27] <dbrom_> ok
[20:27] <venik212> it is VERY flaky
[20:28] <penguin_> sudo apt-get install redshift && redshift -t 6500:4700 -g 0.78
[20:28] <ultreia> dbrom_; then "dd if=infile.tar of=outfile.tar-0 iseek=0 size=n"
[20:28] <v1c3> hello, i have a intel graphics chip and want some video hw-accelleration. unfortunately linux mints mplayer comes without vaapi support. is there a ppa or do i have to compile it with vaapi support?
[20:28] <jpds> penguin_: OK, last warning. Very happy that you're happy with the app, but we can't have everyone doing the same thing.
[20:29] <ultreia> dbrom_; then repeat that process for each of the segments, using a different iseek value and "of=" output file
[20:29] <jpds> penguin_: Feel free to do it, in the offtopic channel.
[20:30] <altker128> BluesKaj: That didn't work :(
[20:30] <mc_teo> I'm on a Dell Inspiron 15z if it matters
[20:30] <penguin_> --- interruption --- how do i join #offtopic
[20:30] <xangua> !mint | v1c3
[20:30] <jpds> penguin_: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <penguin_> ok
[20:31] <penguin_> got it -- continue
[20:31] <dbrom_> ult; dd: unknown operand size
[20:31] <roy_> help
[20:31] <dpurgert> roy_, what's up?
[20:31] <dbrom_> ultreia: ; dd: unknown operand size
[20:31] <roy_> just a quick question
[20:31] <roy_> I am new to IRC
[20:32] <Devaki> waow , i read a lot of problems about installing ubuntu to asus N55s
[20:32] <v1c3> xangua: yeah, there was noboby able to solve my problem, so i ask here.
[20:32] <ultreia> dbrom_; oh, umm, try bs=1M
[20:32] <roy_> what's DCC command for and how to use it here?
[20:32] <BluesKaj> altker128, then I've run out of ideas , all I can suggest is take the time to upgrade your OS , you can do it with internet upgrade if you have a fast connection , sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:32] <v1c3> penguin_: i'll give it a try :D
[20:32] <penguin_> haha
[20:32] <ultreia> dbrom_; then you'd need to do the iseek and count in megabytes
[20:32] <penguin_> sudo apt-get install redshift && redshift -t 6500:4700 -g 0.78
[20:33] <penguin_> good luck
[20:33] <newtoubuntu> hello everyone.. i just literally installed ubuntu 12.10 32 bit.. spent my entire lunch break and some to get this thing working.. the problem I'm having is that i'm not seeing a menu on top of my desktop and home folder
[20:33] <ultreia> dbrom_; did it work with bs=1M?
[20:33] <penguin_> yeah ... so if you don't use redshift -- download it - sudo apt-get install redshift
[20:34] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: do you have something on the left?
[20:34] <dbrom_> same error
[20:34] <altker128> BluesKaj: Ah, got it.  That sed line isn't quite right.  The sources.list had us.old-repository.ubuntu and the 'us.' should have been removed
[20:34] <OerHeks> roy_, DCC filetransfer is not enabled here, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[20:34] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9: yes i see the folder, firefox, libre apps, settings
[20:34] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: "welcome to unity"
[20:34] <antonio__> hey folks
[20:34] <antonio__> anyone here use Kdenlive?
[20:34] <ultreia> dbrom_; guess you can try "seek" instead of "iseek"
[20:35] <nizor> pls help.....does android market offer any social ntwork system that i can link up with my IRC account
[20:35] <v1c3> penguin_: ** (process:5935): WARNING **: Could not get location, 1 retries left.
[20:35] <nizor> to be able to view #ubuntu?
[20:35] <v1c3> ** (process:5935): WARNING **: Provider does not have a valid location available.
[20:35] <v1c3> Unable to get location from provider.
[20:35] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9: that doesn't sound welcoming... :) what is unity doing to me? is there a fix to this?
[20:35] <altker128> BluesKaj: Thanks for your help! :)
[20:35] <_methods> nizor: andchat
[20:35] <dbrom_> ultreia:  dd if file.tar 0f=file1.tar iseek=10240M size=10240M    this is what i used
[20:36] <dbrom_> total size of file is 24 GBs
[20:36] <ultreia> dbrom_; it needs to be "if=file.tar"
[20:36] <geekbri> Did something change with ubuntu 12.04 that would prevent me from properly running commands through sudo like so:  sudo -i -u myuser 'some command' ?
[20:36] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: perhaps i'm misunderstanding your issue.
[20:36] <newtoubuntu> and how do i set the installed apps in alphabetical order? they are cluttered,
[20:36] <ultreia> dbrom_; it also needs to be "bs=10240M"
[20:37] <geekbri> for example in ubuntu 10.10 this seems to work: sudo -i -u hadoop 'hadoop fs -ls /'  but in ubuntu 12.04 it bombs out
[20:37] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9: i don't see a menu when i tick my mouse to the top
[20:37] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: unity doesn't have a menu at the top, only on the left...
[20:37] <airglide> I'm sorry can someone help me with my issue?
[20:37] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9: all i see is Home Folder.. nothing else
[20:38] <nizor> methods yap
[20:38] <_methods> nizor: works great for me
[20:38] <nizor> i use HTC Amaze 4G
[20:38] <dbrom_> ultreia:  dd if: illegal argument combination or already set
[20:38] <ultreia> dbrom_; "dd if=file.tar of=output.tar.0 seek=0 bs=1M count=10240M"
[20:38] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9:  now i'm confuse.. i thought unity = nautilus??? it's not so?
[20:38] <ultreia> dbrom_; "dd if=file.tar of=output.tar.0 seek=0 bs=1M count=10240"
[20:39] <_methods> nizor: use with hackers keyboard and you should have full functionality
[20:39] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: unity is the desktop environment, nautilus is the file manager
[20:39] <dbrom_> same error
[20:39] <nizor> methods whats the name of the app?
[20:39] <nizor> methods for my phone?
[20:40] <antonio__> I'm confused about how to install kdenlive from source with this tutorial http://kdenlive.org/download-source
[20:40] <ultreia> dbrom_; what? that it doesn't like the "if=" argument? that's standard
[20:40] <_methods> nizor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard&hl=en
[20:40] <newtoubuntu> zykotick9: ahh.. okay well the issue is that I'm not seeing a menu in my file manager... in fact i don't see a file manager.. such as "file, edit, view, go. bookmarks, help" when i tick my mouse to the top
[20:40] <_methods> for keyboard
[20:40] <_methods> nizor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.andchat
[20:41] <zykotick9> newtoubuntu: ahh, ok - so i was mistaken origionally ;)  i have no suggestions for you - best of luck.
[20:41] <nizor> ok
[20:41] <ultreia> dbrom_; if your dd command doesn't like the "if=" argument, I'm out of ideas
[20:41] <nizor> methods leme check it out
[20:41] <_methods> nizor: k good luck
[20:41] <BluesKaj> altker128, were you able intall the app(s) you needed ?
[20:41] <dbrom_> dd if=file.tar if=file.tar.0 iseek=1M size=10240M
[20:41] <dpurgert> newtoubuntu, assuming you're on the ubuntu machine right now ... and you're using xchat ... and you're using unity, you'll see "XChat IRC" in the upper left.  put your cursor over that, and it'll change to have file/edit/etc
[20:42] <nizor> methods...sweet..charging my phone nw
[20:42] <_methods> nizor: cool i like both of them
[20:42] <ultreia> dbrom_; you only use "if=" once for the input file. you use "of=" for the output file
[20:42] <altker128> BluesKaj: Yes :)
[20:42] <BluesKaj> altker128, good :)
[20:43] <nizor> methods will download immediately....pls can i get your Mail account... incase i need your further help?
[20:43] <ultreia> dbrom_; type "man dd"
[20:43] <sere> i have a labtop and a vga monitor and trying to turn on a monitor from command so i can set resolution
[20:44] <dpurgert> ultreia, now that's just mean ...
[20:46] <siluetas> hey, I've got a question: I'm looking to buy a laptop with the intention to run ubuntu on it and do some light gaming, whether through wine, steam or a win partition. However, I've run into trouble with hybrid graphics in the past and I really want to avoid it this time.
[20:46] <siluetas> The one way I can think of doing that is to get a laptop that only has a dedicated graphics card, not a set of two GPUs. Can someone give me advice in this regard?
[20:47] <dpurgert> siluetas, not really sure if any of those exist anymore ... :|
[20:48] <marianne> does anyone know if there is a place you can buy a laptop and have ubuntu installed and configured on it for free?
[20:48] <h00k> siluetas: check out https://friendly.ubuntu.com/ for compatibility
[20:48] <dpurgert> marianne, system76 does it ...
[20:48] <h00k> marianne: system76 makes pre-installed hardware
[20:49] <dpurgert> https://www.system76.com/
[20:49] <marianne> h00k: how's the quality?
[20:49] <h00k> marianne: I don't know as I haven't owned one, but good from what I hear
[20:50] <dpurgert> the hardware looks like it's IBM/Lenovo ... but I'm just going off pictures, so ...
[20:50] <dpurgert> well, at least the servers/laptops ...
[20:51] <BluesKaj> siluetas, make the laptop specs don't have "optimus graphics , or "hybrid graphics" using 2 gpus
[20:52] <theseus> just cant boot up correctly when charging cable isn't plugged in
[20:52] <theseus> everytime I turn on my laptop without the power cable plugged in, Ubuntu 12.04 won't boot to unity, any ideas?
[20:53] <dpurgert> actually, yeah ... the servers and laptops look dead on as rebranded Lenovo/IBM cases...
[20:53] <siluetas> h00k: I did check that list, but then I saw things like http://askubuntu.com/questions/196472/dell-15r-overheating which seem to be related to the hybrid graphics thing, leading me back to the question.
[20:53] <zykotick9> theseus: do you have some optimus/hybrid graphics setup?  sounds like battery power is disabling 3d... just guessing here.
[20:54] <marianne> h00k: they don't look too bad online. not too pricy Next question. Is Blu-ray supported in 12.4
[20:54] <h00k> dpurgert: they make their own hardware, they're not just rebrands of lenovo :)
[20:55] <OerHeks> marianne with some tweaks yes
[20:55] <dpurgert> h00k, yeah -- the desktop cases are definitely custom ... server cases do a lot of the IBM stuff (blue plastic all over the place instead of screws) ...
[20:55] <marianne> OerHeks: are the tweeks hard?
[20:56] <dpurgert> if that's the case ... well, I know where I'm grabbing a new server from (barring being able to grab an IBM for a decent price)
[20:56] <OerHeks> marianne, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-get-encrypted-blu-rays-working.html
[20:56] <marianne> OerHeks: awesome... thanks
[20:56] <theseus> zykotick9: the wierd thing is that if I boot with it plugged in it will boot up fine and unplug after it still it fine.  Just cant boot with a laptop unplugged.  I find that odd
[20:57] <siluetas> so, is there any good way to avoid the hybrid graphics issue from the get go?
[20:57] <touil76> Hello everyone.
[20:58] <dpurgert> siluetas, force it in bios?
[20:58] <zykotick9> theseus: ya, i remember your issue from earlier/yesterday?  good luck.
[20:58] <touil76> I recently updated my ubuntu 12.04LTS, and since then, I cannot get sound via my headphone jack.
[20:58] <touil76> Anyone ever had this problem ?
[20:58] <BluesKaj> siluetas, I suppose  paying a bit more for dedicated graphics one way , just avoid the "hyprid graphics" price point
[20:59] <zykotick9> touil76: check "alsamixer" and verify your headphone isn't muted/turned down
[20:59] <Crazy_Spai> You know what issue I'm having? On my MSI my backlight flickers if it have it on anything but 0
[20:59] <touil76> zykotick9: I've already done that. It doesn't appear to be muted.
[20:59] <jhutchins> theseus: Does it not respond to the power switch, or does it try to boot and fail?
[21:00] <siluetas> BluesKaj what do you mean? I'm not well-versed in this stuff. Are there laptops that only have a dedicated gpu, but they cost more?
[21:02] <jhutchins> siluetas: THe problem is that laptop hardware changes so fast that by the time somebody's bought one, put ubuntu on it, and gotten the graphics working or given up, the models in the store have different hardware.
[21:03] <betah> hey guys, I am with a trouble. I installed Ubuntu 12.10 after Windows, but I can't replace Windows Boot Manager for GRUB. I tried to use a live cd and restore grub (using chroot), but it has not worked. Can anyone help me?
[21:03] <touil76> What should I do ?
[21:04] <BluesKaj> siluetas, or just buy one with onboard graphics if you're not using it for gaming etc
[21:04] <jhutchins> betah: Which version of windows?  What happened when you tried to install grub?
[21:05] <siluetas> yea, I wanted to do some gaming.
[21:05] <mrmcgibby> When I login, I just get kicked back to the login screen.  Any troubleshooting tips?
[21:06] <mrmcgibby> what logs should I be looking at?
[21:06] <betah> jhutchins: I use Windows 7. Nothing happened. Windows boot manager was not replaced
[21:06] <chomps> betah: you can do this one of two ways. with a live ubuntu cd or if the OS loads with the disk manager. I would use the live cd mount the partition eg: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt (if sda1 is the root) and then sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[21:07] <betah> chomps, I did that
[21:07] <jhutchins> betah: No error messages or anything? Where did you tell it to install?
[21:07] <betah> didnt work
[21:07] <betah> no error messages
[21:07] <betah> the grub-install say that it's all ok
[21:07] <_porque> Hello World! How can I add a image to my terminal? I'm checking if there are changes in my git repository and if so, I want to display a little image, is it possible?
[21:07] <_porque> now I'm displaying a !
[21:07] <betah> but when I reboot the computer, WBM still there
[21:08] <jhutchins> betah: Did you install to /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda?
[21:08] <chomps> betah: after a reboot you should also "sudo update-grub"
[21:08] <betah> I looked at my boot setup configurations and the boot option (the only that exists) is Windows Boot Manager
[21:08] <wyvrn__> Hello, I am trying to change/set password min length, age, complexity, etc... But /etc/default/useradd/etc/login.defs isn't there.. /useradd is not there either, just a file
[21:09] <zykotick9> chomps: fyi, just using a livcd, mounting root and trying grub-install will fail... you need to chroot correctly for that to work.
[21:09] <betah> I installed grub at /dev/sda, as it should be
[21:09] <chomps> betah: I would then try a reinstall of ubuntu from live cd
[21:09] <betah> I will try a grub-update now, I think I did that, but I will try again
[21:10] <betah> chomps, I tried this
[21:10] <wyvrn__> Anyone know how to set min password age and min password length?
[21:10] <jhutchins> betah: I had some trouble with W7, ended up just reformatting the drive.  You could back up the windows part with partimage and restore it after you get Ubuntu working.
[21:10] <betah> one minute, I will try again restore grub and update late
[21:10] <chomps> betah: you can also do "sudo update-grub2" depending on the grub installed. in your case it should be grub2
[21:10] <wyvrn__> *max password age
[21:11] <betah> ok, chomps.. thx
[21:11] <betah> jhutchins, this will be my last choice... I will try a way to restore grub first
[21:11] <betah> but thx for the help
[21:12] <zykotick9> chomps: fyi, update-grub and update-grub2 are the same (on systems with grub2)
[21:12] <betah> I come back in a few minutes, i will try update-grub2
[21:12] <v1c3> i just tried to compile mplayer with vaapi support, but get an errur during configuretion: "Unknown parameter: --enable-vaapi" whats the reason???
[21:12] <_porque> is it possible to add image to my terminal?
[21:13] <wyvrn__> anyone?
[21:14] <allen_ru> ?
[21:14] <airglide> i can't start assogiate, i get the following error: http://pastebin.com/ndpyq5fN
[21:14] <ironhalik> Anyone knows how to fix the rightclick on x220's touchpad? I followed the instruction provided by ubuntu wiki, but the suse patch won't work with newer synaptics package
[21:15] <wyvrn__> Hello, I am trying to change/set password min length, age, complexity, etc... But /etc/default/useradd/etc/login.defs isn't there.. /useradd is not there either, just a file
[21:15] <spanglesontoast> anyone know how to install or at least run ubuntu on an asus x501a with uefi ?
[21:15] <chomps> wyvrn__: this is controlled here: /etc/pam.d/common-password
[21:15] <wyvrn__> ok thanks chomps
[21:16] <ezrafree> can anyone explain to me what SASL does exactly?
[21:17] <jhutchins> wyvrn__: /etc/pam.d/common-password
[21:17] <wyvrn__> chomps: also, has system-auth changed to common-auth? (or where do I change lockout policy?)
[21:17] <wibby> Hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick. when i boot from the stick, i get "kernel panic: not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". what to do?
[21:17] <wyvrn__> thanks jhutchins
[21:17] <chomps> wyvrn__: you should see something like this: password   required   pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8 md5
[21:17] <Devaki> I just installed ubuntu.
[21:18] <chomps> wyvrn__: change min/max to suit
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> ezrafree  from wikipedia: "Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL) is a framework for authentication and data security in Internet protocols. It decouples authentication mechanisms from application protocols"
[21:18] <wyvrn__> ok
[21:18] <ezrafree> MonkeyDust: yes, i read that as well. just looking for a more laymen's terms way of saying it i guess.. like those types of logins that require encryption, is that what it provides?
[21:18] <betah> hey, now I have a clue
[21:19] <betah> when I tried to "update-grub" I got this out
[21:19] <jhutchins> wyvrn__: /etc/login.defs for password age.
[21:20] <betah> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: erro: failed to get canonical path of /cow
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> ezrafree  i guess it's not a layman's thing and nothing you have to worry about
[21:20] <betah> so I cannot update grub
[21:20] <betah> jhutchins?
[21:20] <ezrafree> MonkeyDust: i never said it was "a laymen's thing" i simply asked if someone could explain this complicated software to me in laymen's terms.
[21:20] <betah> \msg jhutchins are you there?
[21:22] <chomps> wyvrn__: do you mean the lockout policy as in 'change passwd after xx days' and such?
[21:22] <jhutchins> Sometimes.
[21:23] <chomps> wyvrn__: try here: /etc/login.defs
[21:23] <wyvrn__> chomps: I mean lockout like if you have 5 failed login attempts it locks you out for a bit
[21:23] <wyvrn__> on
[21:23] <wyvrn__> *ok
[21:24] <chomps> wyvrn__: look for "PASS_MAX_DAYS"
[21:24] <jhutchins> wyvrn__: You need pam.taly for that.
[21:24] <wyvrn__> oh ok
[21:25] <jhutchins> wyvrn__: auth        required      pam_tally.so per_user deny=3
[21:25] <wyvrn__> Thanks!
[21:25] <chomps> wyvrn__: also "LOGIN_RETRIES" and "LOGIN_TIMEOUT"
[21:26] <wyvrn__> ohhh thank you guys so much
[21:34] <bulletrulz> hey
[21:34] <bulletrulz> i just installed dockbarx on my lubununtu install and it wont run for some reason
[21:36] <B0g4r7_> Dumb question: I took a screenshot in Ubuntu using the "print screen" button on the keyboard -- where did it get saved?
[21:37] <chomps> B0g4r7_: It should be in 'Pictures'
[21:39] <Devaki> isn't there no mousewheel setting in ubuntu, lol
[21:39] <xrs> there is
[21:39] <bulletrulz> this is my problemm
[21:39] <bulletrulz> \Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:39] <bulletrulz>   File "/usr/bin/dockx", line 34, in <module>
[21:39] <bulletrulz>     from dockbarx.theme import DockTheme
[21:39] <bulletrulz>   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/dockbarx/theme.py", line 27, in <module>
[21:39] <bulletrulz>     import Image
[21:39] <bulletrulz> ImportError: No module named Image
[21:39] <FloodBot1> bulletrulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <wyvrn__> some tutorial said to put this in: /lib/security/$ISA/pam_tally.so  Will it still work if I just put pam_tally.so?
[21:40] <Devaki> xrs, where ?
[21:40] <blendergeek> I am trying to install software and I get: Unpacking replacement libphonon-dev ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libphonon-dev_4%3a4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):  unable to open '/usr/include/phonon/Phonon/AbstractAudioOutput.dpkg-new': No such file or directory No apport report written because the error message indicates an issue on the local system
[21:40] <B0g4r7_> got it.  thx.
[21:40] <BluesKaj> blendergeek, what software ?
[21:41] <Devaki> Holy shit, that's goddamn fast.
[21:42] <bitnewb> so I have a VPS Ive been learning on. the problem is I keep skrewing up my OS to the point  I need to reinstall. Is there a way to make a backup of a clean install that i can restore over ssh?
[21:43] <xrs> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:43] <h00k> Devaki: please keep the language appropriate
[21:44] <xrs> sudo apt-get build-dep
[21:45] <blendergeek> apt-get isn't working for me.
[21:45] <antonio__> I'm getting "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[21:45] <antonio__> How can I fix this?
[21:45] <Guest25044> I can't get my wireless to work on my HP laptop w/ ubuntu 12.10
[21:46] <blendergeek> I'm getting similar things.
[21:46] <xrs> sudo apt-get check
[21:47] <zykotick9> antonio__: "sudo apt-get -f install" might give you more insights into what's broken
[21:47] <blendergeek> tried tthat and I get: unable to open '/usr/include/phonon/Phonon/AbstractAudioOutput.dpkg-new': No such file or directory
[21:48] <Guest25044> everything is fine except the wireless
[21:48] <Guest25044> any ideas?
[21:49] <sere> i have a labtop and a vga monitor and trying to turn on a monitor from command so i can set resolution
[21:50] <antonio__> zykotick9: this is the output I got http://pastebin.com/ULvsQJ0E
[21:50] <zykotick9> antonio__: sorry i don't vist pastebin.com - perhaps someone else can help you
[21:50] <antonio__> ok..
[21:50] <__Hackuin__> Guest25044:  Check your additional drivers settings..
[21:51] <antonio__> Why don't you visit pastebin, just curious?
[21:51] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone . Anyone uses emacs?
[21:51] <blendergeek> Yes
[21:51] <blendergeek> I use emacs
[21:51] <zykotick9> antonio__: that's offtopic here.
[21:51] <Vivekananda> I need help installing it emacs 24 on lucid
[21:51] <Vivekananda> I tried this --- http://pastebin.com/fnCgLz13
[21:51] <Vivekananda> from this site --https://launchpad.net/~cassou/+archive/emacs
[21:52] <Vivekananda> blendergeek: I need help/suggestions :)
[21:52] <jrib> Vivekananda: you should remove the duplicate entries in your sources
[21:53] <Vivekananda> jrib: How do I do that ?? I mean I know /apt/sources file but I dont see the same lines there which are mentioned as duplicates
[21:53] <blendergeek> I am using Emacs 22 in Precise.
[21:53] <Vivekananda> can you tell me which lines to remove?
[21:53] <jrib> Vivekananda: and the ppa you have linked to only offers emacs-snapshot for lucid, no emacs24
[21:53] <jrib> Vivekananda: you have to check /etc/apt/sources.list as well as the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:54] <Vivekananda> jrib: the problem is for the pl coursera course I need emacs 24
[21:54] <Vivekananda> or a lesser version and manually install sml
[21:54] <Vivekananda> :(
[21:54] <Vivekananda> advisable to do an apt get upgrade??
[21:54] <Vivekananda> lucid to 12 04 ?
[21:54] <jrib> Vivekananda: well, will emacs-snapshot not do?  And by the way, lucid support on the desktop ends in april of this year, so you may consider upgrading anyway
[21:54] <Guest25044> hackuin: sorry I'm a newbee. Where do I look for the drivers
[21:55] <jrib> Vivekananda: yes, you can upgrade lucid (10.04) to precise (12.04).  See ubottu
[21:55] <jrib> !upgrade | Vivekananda
[21:55] <Vivekananda> jrib: two questions
[21:55] <bulletrulz> helpp!
[21:55] <Vivekananda> first : for the upgrade will all my apps work in the new one or will I have to reinstall eg eclipse and other things which I installed via commandline
[21:56] <bulletrulz> dockbarx will not work at all
[21:56] <antonio__> damn!
[21:56] <Papa-Smurf> Hi guys
[21:56] <Vivekananda> twobitsprite: I have a very old comp 6 yrs and the unity is said to be heavy so I dont know if I should upgrade.
[21:56] <bulletrulz> hi PapaSmurf
[21:56] <harris> i synced my itouch 4 music with banshee sync says finished on ubuntu but when i go to music on itouch it says no music
[21:56] <bulletrulz> someone help me please lol
[21:57] <Papa-Smurf> Does ubuntu set-up fail2ban by default when installing ssh-server?
[21:57] <bulletrulz> dockbarx gives an error when trying to start
[21:57] <bulletrulz> i have lubuntu 12.10
[21:57] <jrib> Vivekananda: your apps should still work though I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "installed via commandline".  Through apt-get?  Or some other way?  You don't have to use unity.  You can use unity-2d on 12.04 or some other desktop altogether
[21:57] <blendergeek> http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/
[21:57] <jrib> Papa-Smurf: no
[21:58] <bulletrulz> ;/
[21:58] <blendergeek> Precise by default still uses Emacs 22 anyway.
[21:58] <Papa-Smurf> jrib so ssh is exposed to bruteforce attacks
[21:58] <Vivekananda> jrib: I meant that apps I installed using downloaded tars rather than from repos
[21:58] <__Hackuin__> Guest25044:  Under system settings, find Software sources, and check the tab "Additional Drivers"
[21:58] <bulletrulz> jrib:  can u help me.
[21:58] <jrib> Vivekananda: they'll still be there.  They should still work unless they require some specific dependency that goes away during the upgrade
[21:59] <jrib> Papa-Smurf: sure
[21:59] <Vivekananda> blendergeek: the problem is this ---https://class.coursera.org/proglang-2012-001/wiki/view?page=SoftwareInstallation
[21:59] <Vivekananda> if you look in there the problem is mentioned
[22:00] <Vivekananda> jrib: for example I have wine in drive and have a symlink for it so it shows on /home
[22:00] <Vivekananda> will this get affected?
[22:00] <jrib> bulletrulz: you should give more details instead of just saying "help me".  Try to keep it on one line though (use a pastebin if you need it)
[22:01] <wibby> Hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick. when i boot from the stick, i get "kernel panic: not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". what to do? I googled it and most people seem to have this problem after installation; I have it *during* installation
[22:01] <antonio__> is there much difference from studio and regular ubuntu?
[22:01] <ikonia> real time kernel
[22:02] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, that url needs an account we can't see
[22:02] <airglide> hello, i need some help
[22:02] <Vivekananda> OerHecks hmm in that case I will try to use pastebin
[22:03] <bulletrulz> jrib ok http://pastebin.com/SMuvKLVD this is my problem
[22:04] <jrib> bulletrulz: how did you install this?
[22:04] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: possible to attach files in irc somehow??
[22:04] <bulletrulz> jrib through sudo apt-get
[22:04] <Vivekananda> I have a pdf from the site
[22:04] <jrib> bulletrulz: did you check for an existing bug at bugs.ubuntu.com?
[22:05] <bulletrulz> jrib umm no let me check
[22:05] <auronandace> Vivekananda: you could use imagebin
[22:05] <OerHeks> imagebin, paste.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <Guest68289> can anyboby help me out
[22:06] <bulletrulz> jrib no results
[22:06] <Devaki> By thw way , why all installers for ubuntu are huge ?
[22:06] <Devaki> Or am i downloading huge stuff :D
[22:06] <Guest68289> have a problem with ubuntu
[22:06] <jrib> bulletrulz: install the "python-imaging" package
[22:06] <bulletrulz> jrib ok ill try
[22:07] <jrib> bulletrulz: what package is this that gets you docx?
[22:07] <jrib> dockx*
[22:07] <whjms> Devaki: there's a lot of stuff that comes with ubuntu. lots of assets, software, all the stuff that makes it nice
[22:07] <OerHeks> Devaki ubuntu let the cd format go, but the image should fit on a 1 gb usbstick
[22:07] <bulletrulz> jrib dockbarx
[22:07] <jrib> bulletrulz: ah ok
[22:07] <jrib> bulletrulz: but it's not in the default repositories?
[22:07] <bulletrulz> jrib: it worked :D thx man
[22:07] <Vivekananda> http://pastebin.com/Zziz7WbZ
[22:08] <jrib> bulletrulz: you should tell the maintainer of the package
[22:08] <Guest68289> my password is set to none how can i put a password back
[22:08] <auronandace> Guest68289: how did you set it to none?
[22:08] <nibbler_> using digikam in gnome gives unreadable tooltips (white text on almost-white background) - how can i fix this? had the same with retroshare, but i could change it to some better theme. i think its some kde/gnome mess.....
[22:09] <Devaki> No no , you misunderstand me :) i already installed ubuntu.
[22:09] <Devaki> I am downloading a couple of programs , which is bnig :D
[22:10] <Devaki> I noticed that ubuntu is using my screen resolution quite well.
[22:10] <OerHeks> Devaki big and free, so why complaint ?
[22:10] <jhutchins> Devaki: Typical installation of most linux distros these days is 4-6G.
[22:10] <Devaki> OerHeks , why Google chrome is bigger than 100 mb :|
[22:10] <Devaki> Oh it's not.
[22:11] <Devaki> FDT is 270 MB though.
[22:11] <Devaki> Anyway , that's an IDE:
[22:11] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: Does it happen that we mistakenly downlode the chrome os instead of the chrome browser?
[22:11] <Vivekananda> jrib: the link http://pastebin.com/Zziz7WbZ
[22:12] <jrib> Vivekananda: I don't know what this is