[00:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, I'm a huge fan of ubuntu but I need 2 types of OS to work. When I try to install win 8, I have to choose which partition I want to install like this image: http://s.glbimg.com/po/tt/f/original/2011/09/16/windows8-install-hd.jpg  I choose HD with nothing inside, and this message appears: "We could not create a new partition or find an existing one. Check the log files of the installation"
[00:00] <Vivekananda> or "somethingg software centre" ( forget the name)
[00:00] <micahcowan> semitones, I don't think such a folder exist.
[00:00] <micahcowan> But most managed, installable apps will go into /usr/bin anyway
[00:00] <Vivekananda> I mean I forgot they name of the application
[00:00] <cristina> hm micahcowan lot`s of packeges there
[00:00] <semitones> micahcowan: i'm sur eit does!
[00:00] <micahcowan> cristina, yes indeed :)
[00:00] <semitones> at least it used to
[00:00] <semitones> it was like ~/bin or something
[00:01] <Vivekananda> The easiest is to click on the software centre and type libre office and then click and install
[00:01] <micahcowan> cristina, inkscape, that was the other graphical app I was thinking of
[00:01] <cristina> yes ...already there..
[00:01] <cristina> let`s go on
[00:01] <cristina> messenger for yahoo ...with webvam
[00:01] <micahcowan> semitones, AFAIK, ~/bin isn't automatically added to path if it exists. At least, it didn't used to be. I add mine explicitly
[00:02] <cristina> webcam
[00:02] <semitones> micahcowan: ok
[00:02] <lucas_> cristina : pidgin
[00:02] <cristina> hm...no webcam...or ...i`m to .dumm:))
[00:03] <micahcowan> semitones, Of course, there's nothing to prevent you from having a .bashrc (or whatnot) that does that sort of thing for you, but AFAICT the one automatically provided doesn't do that.
[00:03] <cristina> how about kopete?...webcam works?
[00:03] <micahcowan> (My startup scripts automatically add anything it finds in /opt/*/bin to the PATH.)
[00:04] <cristina> and mic ofcourese
[00:04] <jrib> micahcowan: the default ~/.profile adds ~/bin to PATH if ~/bin exists
[00:04] <cristina> ofcourse
[00:04] <semitones> micahcowan: what is .bashrc?
[00:04] <semitones> micahcowan: check this out (it's part of ~/.profile)
[00:04] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606605/
[00:05] <micahcowan> jrib, weird to me that it would be in there, but not .bashrc. Well, I guess it sort of makes sense, but also means it wouldn't be updated when you open a new window in your term or something
[00:05] <micahcowan> semitones, yeah, just saw it.
[00:06] <semitones> jrib: micahcowan but does it actually work?
[00:06] <jrib> semitones: yes
[00:06] <micahcowan> semitones, .profile gets run on a login shell, .bashrc gets run on a non-login shell (when you open a terminal window, that usually opens a non-login shell)
[00:07] <jrib> micahcowan: has the advantage that the X environment will be aware of the PATH changes.  Nowadays it seems the push is to not even use ~/.profile, but instead use ~/.pam_environment for environment variables (unless you need some scripting logic)
[00:08] <micahcowan> jrib, yeah, but then, given that .profile sources .bashrc anyway, if they'd put it in .bashrc it'd be good for both. :)
[00:08] <alien2050> weird... I'm trying to scale a window (Blender) on my second monitor but it sticks to the middle of the screen instead of spanning... even though compiz has "snapping windows" disabled...
[00:08] <cristina> hei guys webcam works on kopete?
[00:08] <micahcowan> The [ -d ] doesn't make much sense to me anyway... after all, there's no harm in adding it to the PATH if it doesn't exist, and that way they can make it exist, and take advantage of it without having to log out/back in again
[00:09] <jrib> micahcowan: agreed.  I guess there is some negligible advantage to not having more directories than needed in PATH
[00:09] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[00:09] <alien2050> "launcher capture mouse" also disabled...
[00:10] <micahcowan> Got dinged by AndChat15 again... this time ignored by IP...
[00:10] <Schrodinger`Cat> i would like to know why somes kernel have linux-image-extra, and some other dont, in this one : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.8.9-raring/ there is no linux-image-extra, is it a problem ? thanks
[00:11] <micahcowan> So, anyone know where I should be looking for what scripts or such get triggered when a keyboard is plugged into USB?
[00:11] <veryape> exit
[00:11] <veryape> ls
[00:12] <veryape> oops, sorry :/
[00:12] <micahcowan> :)
[00:12] <aliendude5300> sigh... after having a broken install, i wiped my hdd (backing up /home) and reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04. GRUB is still not working :(
[00:12] <cristina> micahcowan,  so on kopete works webcam install or not?
[00:12] <aliendude5300> I just get a flashing underscore now
[00:13] <micahcowan> cristina, I don't know much about kopete, or really about webcam. I think the only cam-related thing I've installed is "cheese" (takes a picture of you ;) )
[00:13] <cristina> dok jokes
[00:13] <brainwash> Schrodinger`Cat: the linux-image-extra package has been merged back into linux-image , so now we have only 1 file like before
[00:14] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: ok thanks :)
[00:14] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: linux-image-extra is the proprietary stuff, right ?
[00:15] <micahcowan> I think proprietary stuff is mostly individual other module packages?
[00:15] <AndChat15> Say up
[00:15] <cristina> what docky do? micahcowan
[00:15] <micahcowan> Don't know. Does it have a description under Synaptic?
[00:16] <micahcowan> Really, the Synaptic descriptions, plus Google, are the best ways to find out (if it has an unfortunately ambiguous name, you might want to add "Ubuntu" in the google searches)
[00:16] <micahcowan> There are some tens of thousands of packages, I mostly just know about the ones I use :)
[00:16] <brainwash> Schrodinger`Cat: it did contain less common driver modules i think
[00:17] <cristina> ok
[00:17] <AndChat15> Ubuntu is worse than windows
[00:17] <cristina> yes and you are like a frog
[00:17] <aliendude5300> sigh... I have no idea how to fix my system :( I should have stayed with Ubuntu 12.10, but 13.04 was faster and shinier :/
[00:17] <Schrodinger`Cat> AndChat15: please stop you craps in private message, thanks
[00:17] <Schrodinger`Cat> brainwash: thanks
[00:18] <levolent> hi guys
[00:18] <levolent> can anyone hear me ??
[00:18] <micahcowan> Schrodinger`Cat, I'm thinking it's a harassbot, dunno if there's anyone listening.
[00:18] <micahcowan> levolent, read you
[00:18] <levolent> nice
[00:19] <aliendude5300> Also, AndChat15 is a troll.
[00:19] <levolent> I was having connectivity issues earlier
[00:19] <AndChat15> levolent: hello
[00:19] <micahcowan> Someone have ops to ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(AndChat) ? :/
[00:19] <levolent> ok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?
[00:19] <levolent> must work on NTFS and possibly FAT32
[00:19] <semitones> how can I make init.d run something?
[00:20] <micahcowan> semitones, hm, that's a somewhat complex question. Also, in Ubuntu, it's encouraged to use upstart (/etc/init) rather than ssvinit-style scripts (/etc/init.d)
[00:20] <aliendude5300> I would really appreciate it if someone could help me fix my Ubuntu install. I can't use my desktop at all now, and I've been working on this for hours.
[00:20] <Vivekananda> so guys no way to recover then ?
[00:20] <micahcowan> But the Ubuntu guides at help.ubuntu.com (I think?) have information on both.
[00:20] <levolent> AndChat15 michahcowan sorry to ask for general linux software advice... i know this probably isn't the best place to ask
[00:20] <micahcowan> Or maybe it's on the wiki. Proabably both.
[00:20] <AndChat15> Everything just works in windows
[00:20] <levolent> maybe i should try #linux?
[00:20] <Vivekananda> shoot why do I alwaysuse the shift delete :(
[00:21] <micahcowan> levolent, nothing at all wrong with general linux software advice
[00:21] <Vivekananda> woe to the habit. any advise on recovering is very much waited upon
[00:21] <micahcowan> levolent, and AndChat15 is a troll (possibly bot)
[00:21] <semitones> micahcowan: ok, I don't really know the difference. Basically, I just want the system to start redshift before I see the login screen.
[00:21] <levolent> ok good
[00:21] <levolent> how do i mute him nasty npm
[00:21] <micahcowan> semitones, for quick-and-dirty, you probably just want to add it to /etc/rc.local
[00:21] <micahcowan> Making sure that it spawns off, and doesn't block until the program exits (add & if necessary)
[00:22] <micahcowan> levolent, depends on your client. See if "/help ignore" gives you information on your client.
[00:22] <levolent> ok #linux requires registration and I'm not sober enough for that .
[00:22] <levolent> so thats good I can ask software advice here :)
[00:23] <micahcowan> levolent, I used /ignore<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ALL
[00:23] <levolent> ty
[00:23] <AndChat15> Wow
[00:23] <levolent> i am of the type that would rather learn to fish than be giving a fish btw
[00:23] <levolent> so was a /whois on him??
[00:23] <levolent> that*
[00:23] <micahcowan> yeah
[00:23] <levolent> cool
[00:23] <tehsmythe> hello
[00:23] <micahcowan> He changed nicks/usernames on me at least once, so gotta be IP :)
[00:23] <micahcowan> hi tehsmythe
[00:23] <levolent> i didn't know about the ALL parameter on that
[00:24] <levolent> what extra benefit is that?
[00:24] <micahcowan> levolent, might be xchat-specific, I dunno. it also might be the default.
[00:24] <levolent> o ok i am also using xchat
[00:24] <tehsmythe> I am an Ubuntu newbie and have a question about installing 13.04 on a hybrid drive
[00:24] <micahcowan> You can ban for just private messages, or just channel... all blocks for all :)
[00:24] <levolent> ill enter both commands :)
[00:24] <levolent> oh its required
[00:24] <levolent> anyways
[00:25] <levolent> ok question. is there a good data recovery software for linux that is free or has trial and online download?
[00:25] <Vivekananda> Hello anyone responding to my question. I have not written much on the disk except for scalpel install so please advise on whaat to do ?
[00:25] <levolent> must work on NTFS and possibly FAT32
[00:25] <Vivekananda> if there is nothing then I would like to begin working again on the stuff
[00:26] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, to be honest, your problem sounds difficult and baffling. You've just done a normal install, wiping the whole HD, and you end up without a working Grub? :(
[00:26] <levolent> also, does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?
[00:26] <levolent> 12.10
[00:26] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, I've never had that happen. Not like that, anyway.  I have spent hours working on this. I've been on IRC all day, and all I want is a working system :(
[00:26] <chaotix> hello...  should i get ubuntu 13.10?  why or why not
[00:26] <chaotix> i meant 13.04
[00:27] <micahcowan> levolent, it should detect NTFS discs, I think
[00:27] <levolent> is there another good channel for ubunt or linux questions that doesn't require registration?
[00:27] <aliendude5300> I have Secure Boot disabled since people will probably bring that up
[00:27] <levolent> whats the best program to get data on the connection and disc
[00:27] <macwolf74> chaotix, If you want the latest and greatest or if something does not work right currently then maybe you should
[00:27] <macwolf74> however you will have to upgrade to 13.10 in the next 9 months to stay supported
[00:28] <micahcowan> chaotix, it might be right for you, or you might prefer to get the last long-term support version (which was 12.04 I believe)
[00:28] <levolent> i dont know if you guys have smelled gucci intense but omfg...
[00:28] <micahcowan> If you like to have the latest bleeding edge, then getting the latest release can be a good idea.
[00:28] <tehsmythe> Does anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage
[00:28] <levolent> it seems girls AND guys like it so beware tho...
[00:28] <chaotix> im gonna do it!
[00:28] <AndChat|15> Ubuntu is garbadge
[00:28] <macwolf74> k
[00:29] <chaotix> how do i report someone for being a troll?
[00:29] <micahcowan> 12.04 will be supported until a year after 14.04 comes out, I believe, so if you like to just install stuff and leave it alone without constantly upgrading a couple times a year, LTS can be a good choice.
[00:29] <levolent> andchat broke my filter :(
[00:29] <levolent> i thought i had him ignore
[00:29] <macwolf74> chaotix, just ignore him he'll get over it eventually
[00:29] <chaotix> i got a pm from a troll who will remain nameless
[00:29] <chaotix> ok
[00:29] <micahcowan> levolent, mine too. Thought I'd banned that nick. Probably banned the username instead
[00:29] <chaotix> im leaving anyways
[00:29] <levolent> can someone please help or direct me I've been here awhile
[00:29] <micahcowan> chaotix, no need to remain nameless, AndChat's bugging everyone
[00:29] <macwolf74> hope you have fun with ubuntu
[00:30] <levolent> if what im asking for doesn't exist how will i know?
[00:30] <macwolf74> levolent, what is your question?
[00:30]  * levolent whoa thats kinda deep
[00:30] <chaotix> im using 12.10 right now and im enjoying it
[00:30] <levolent> um... is about linux software not sure if this is good pl
[00:30] <levolent> place*
[00:30] <micahcowan> levolent, trying AndChat*!*@* this time...
[00:30] <macwolf74> 13.04 brings many improvements and speed changes
[00:30] <macwolf74> over 12.10
[00:30] <chaotix> it took me a while to jump on the unity bandwaggon but i am glad that i did
[00:30] <chaotix> thanks macwolf74
[00:30] <Guest6760> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:30] <AndChat|15> I rather ran os2 than ubuntu
[00:30] <macwolf74> you're welcome =)
[00:31] <macwolf74> levolent, go ahead
[00:31] <levolent> macwolf74 does ubuntu by default detect NTFS disc? and where would I go for verbose data on that usb connection?
[00:31] <macwolf74> I can probably answer it
[00:31] <tehsmythe> Does anyone here know if ubuntu 13.04 will know to install grub on the ssd part of my hybrid drive or will I have to manually manage the partitions to get this to happen? I want to use the SSD for the OS and the HDD for the storage
[00:31] <micahcowan> levolent, yes, it'll detect the NTFS disc (thought I answered that already)
[00:31] <macwolf74> by NTFS disc if you mean partition then it usually does yes
[00:31] <aliendude5300> levolent, ubuntu detects and can read/write to NTFS by default
[00:31] <Vivekananda> hello
[00:31] <freddofrog> anyone here have experience at running pangolin lts as a PV domU ?
[00:31] <levolent> micah yes but i asked for the software name too sorry im noob
[00:31] <Vivekananda> anyone able to comment on or advise on my problem of shift delete ?
[00:31] <macwolf74> Vivekananda, what about it?
[00:32] <micahcowan> levolent, it should detect it automatically, without any need to install additional software
[00:32] <parsixfan> No matter what variant of ubuntu i try my old laptop wont seem to boot right, it shows the initial boot screen i choose the boot option and then it goes black and you simply hear the fans nonstop. any ideas?
[00:32] <levolent> aliendude5300 what program should i use for output analysis
[00:32] <semitones> micahcowan: one last question -- in my bash script that I put in rc.local, do I need to make sure that the program it invokes runs in the background?
[00:32] <levolent> so i know what the computer knows about the disc
[00:32] <micahcowan> macwolf74, Vive did accidental shift-delete
[00:32] <semitones> micahcowan: by adding && or something -- i don't really understand
[00:32] <levolent> !equivalents Disk Management
[00:32] <retrobanana> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:32] <doghead> G
[00:32] <levolent> !equivalent Disk Management
[00:32] <levolent> ubottu sorry
[00:33] <micahcowan> semitones, yeah, that's what I was trying to say. You'd add & at the end... better make sure that the command will do what you want first, so it doesn't trigger an error if you type the command wrong or something.
[00:33] <levolent> ubottu that actually looked intelligent
[00:33] <levolent> k
[00:33] <micahcowan> Some commands have options to fork into the background themselves, in which case you can use that option and not &
[00:33] <levolent> brb grabbing a smoke.. aliendud5300 and macwolf74 and micahcowan
[00:33] <doghead> L
[00:33] <macwolf74> levolent, ubuntu has a disk management tool called disk utility by default
[00:34] <doghead> You
[00:34] <retrobanana> Can someone help me with Pure Data? Everytime I open a patch, I get logged out (to the login screen). I'm running 13.04, 32-bit.
[00:34] <macwolf74> well now "Disks"
[00:34] <levolent> what is the terminal command to summon it
[00:34] <retrobanana> Will anybody help me!!?
[00:34] <micahcowan> levolent, that one's a graphical one, I believe, found in your application menus. Similar terminal program might be parted
[00:34] <macwolf74> gnome-disks levolent
[00:34] <micahcowan> retrobanana, what's "Pure Data"?
[00:34] <micahcowan> (and, have patience :) )
[00:34] <macwolf74> it is GUI like micahcowan said though
[00:35] <doghead> Na
[00:35] <semitones> micahcowan: this is what I have so far :D http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606684/
[00:35] <retrobanana> It's a graphical audio programming language.
[00:36] <parsixfan> any help as to way ubuntu wont display anything on trying to install
[00:36] <micahcowan> retrobanana, sounds fun. I'll have to find it. But, if it's logging you completely out, it sounds like it might be a video driver problem or something like that.
[00:36] <doghead> macwolf74: puredata is what happens when you poop
[00:36] <macwolf74> mmk
[00:36] <micahcowan> I.e., your graphical session is getting killed, so everything under it goes too.
[00:36] <retrobanana> Hmmm...that could be it
[00:37] <Vivekananda> macwolf74: just if I can recover any file I deleted like 10 mins ago with shift delete
[00:37] <micahcowan> I don't know what to suggest there... if you're using "additional (restricted) drivers", then you might consider disabling that... or if you're not, and there's one available, you might consider enabling it :)
[00:37] <Vivekananda> it was a .sql file
[00:37] <macwolf74> I don't know any way to recover a pernamently deleted file, sorry
[00:38] <Vivekananda> :( okay then I guess I will go back to writing it out again
[00:38] <micahcowan> Vivekananda, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[00:38] <micahcowan> hope that helps
[00:38] <aliendude5300> sigh... I'm reinstalling Ubuntu again in hopes that the past two installations of 13.04 that failed were flukes. wish me luck :/
[00:38] <doghead> Get eid o
[00:38] <macwolf74> aliendude5300, maybe the ISO image is corrupted?
[00:38] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, I suppose you're on the live CD now?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, YOu sum the ISO?
[00:39] <doghead> Do not use ubuntu
[00:39] <micahcowan> ISO image, or possibly the HDD (hope not)
[00:39] <aliendude5300> I checked the integrity of the ISO. :/
[00:39] <aliendude5300> ISO is fine
[00:39] <retrobanana> Thanks!
[00:39] <levolent> back
[00:39] <levolent> doghead is trolling me :( will /ignore doghead work?
[00:39] <helo> is update-manager -d a viable way to upgrade from quantal?
[00:40] <aliendude5300> the installs look like they worked, but it didn't boot either time. This is all on a PC where 12.10 worked flawlessly
[00:40] <macwolf74> levolent, just ignore it mentally I'd say, they don't stick around long afaik
[00:40] <levolent> also, does freenode have a "lobby" or index help desk? I know there's a command but it outputs long and hard to navigate
[00:40] <helo> #defocus
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> helo, Set the software sotces to all upgrades and wait till the servers are not overwhelmed.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> sources*
[00:41] <micahcowan> levolent, doghead is still AndChat, so I'm still failing at the ignores. Now trying ~AndChat*!*@* ALL ... not that they can't get around that, probably, but so far the username's always AndChat
[00:41] <helo> i downloaded the iso, but can't get it to boot from usb either via dd or unetbootin
[00:41] <macwolf74> you can just open the software updater and it should appear if everything is updated
[00:41] <harris> battery working now
[00:41] <micahcowan> Does dd of ISO to usb work now? didn't used to, AFAIK (Debian's does).
[00:41] <levolent> ok did someone ever ansewr me? I scrolled up but dont see red text
[00:42] <micahcowan> I've only used the GUI "Make Startup Disk" thingy to do the USB thing
[00:42] <helo> i prefer clean installs, but if the iso does not will it, so be it!
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> helo, You know the boot menu outside the bios?
[00:42] <adreno> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPGKDmuAIKQ&list=PL8BAFE3208F6CD872
[00:42] <helo> micahcowan: i think it "used to" ;)
[00:42] <helo> dunno, my bios is kind of sketchy when it comes to upgrades
[00:42] <levolent> I am a sad panda right now :(
[00:42] <doghead> I have swamp land to sell
[00:42] <helo> err "when it comes to usb booting"
[00:42] <micahcowan> gotcha
[00:43] <micahcowan> levolent, I don't know much about getting data on USB connections. Not sure what level of data you're wanting, though.
[00:43] <levolent> is there a freenode or other irc channel for non-emergency firstaid?
[00:43] <macwolf74> answered you on the disks question levolent? the command is gnome-disks for the GUI tool
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> helo, outside the bios
 #defocus
[00:43] <n47781> how can I access an external USB harddisk?  alternatively, any way to access a Windows' shared folder to drag over ( / copy & paste) files from that?
[00:43] <micahcowan> levolent, I mean, dmesg will tell you what got connected to your computer, if that's the sort of thing you need
[00:43] <helo> #defocus is the freenode lobby, afaik
[00:43] <harris> how do i turn off the power saving like the file my computer keeps poping and thats what i had to do before
[00:44] <aliendude5300> yes! It booted this time! Success! :D 4 hours of work fixing my Ubuntu paid off! I had to manually create a 100MB reserved bios boot area on my ssd for it to boot! :)
[00:44] <levolent> is there a good search engine for irc chat of all network? google seems lacking imo
[00:44] <helo> servers don't seem overwhelmed, btw... pulling 1MB/s
[00:44]  * helo frowns as it drops to 400KB/s
[00:45] <macwolf74> what IRC client are you using levolent?
[00:45] <levolent> you can't put a bandaid in your mouth right? so what if you bite the everloving @$% out of your lip
[00:45] <levolent> xchat
[00:45] <helo> levolent: freenode is all you need if you're sticking to linuxland... netsplit.de is a good index
[00:45] <levolent> macwolf74 xchat
[00:45] <levolent> not sticking to linuxland
[00:45] <macwolf74> ah
[00:45] <levolent> its about non-emergency first aid question
[00:46] <macwolf74> server > list of channels can give you a list of channels
[00:46] <harris> wilee-nilee,
[00:46] <macwolf74> also we keep saying #defocus levolent
[00:46] <harris> you helped me with it
[00:46] <macwolf74> lol
[00:46] <levolent> ty macwolf74
[00:46] <levolent> were you born in 74 btw?
[00:46] <macwolf74> nah
[00:46] <macwolf74> lol
[00:46] <levolent> i bet you get asked that all the time
[00:47] <levolent> how do i switch channel without mouse in xchat?
[00:47] <levolent> ctrl+tab !equivalen
[00:47] <levolent> ctrl+tab !equivalent
[00:47] <harris>  /join channel
[00:47] <levolent> =\
[00:47] <levolent> did that alredy
[00:47] <macwolf74> I do
[00:48] <clfs>  /join ubuntu-cn
[00:48] <levolent> harris /join #ubuntu  when im already in it from another channel doesn't switch focus =\
[00:49] <levolent> does anyone have questions?
[00:49] <aliendude5300> ok, Ubuntu 13.04 is now running on my system, but it keeps freezing and lagging to the point where I have to reboot it manually. I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[00:49] <aliendude5300> and then a black screen
[00:50] <harris> levolent, yes
[00:51] <levolent> harris yes what ... how do switch channel with keyboard? xchat
[00:51] <levolent> !equivalent CTRL+TAB
[00:51] <levolent> !equivalents CTRL+TAB
[00:51] <levolent> ubottu why u no love me anymore?
[00:52] <levolent> !equivalents
[00:53] <levolent> how do switch channel with keyboard? xchat
[00:53] <levolent> CTRL+TAB equivalent
[00:53] <micahcowan> levolent, I was looking under Settings->Advanced->Keyboard Shortcuts
[00:53] <micahcowan> but there doesn't seem to be such a thing
[00:53] <goonface> levolent: usw
[00:54] <micahcowan> There doesn't even seem to be a command to assign to a keystroke for such a thing :/
[00:54] <goonface> levolent: hey
[00:54] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, crap, I dunno, but sounds like maybe it's choosing bad graphics drivers for your Xorg or something...
[00:55] <goonface> Use windows
[00:55] <micahcowan> alien2050, might be able to force it to use a more "safe-mode" style one, but it's been ages since I've had to muck with Xorg, and it was all manual config back then, so I'd be little help now.
[00:56] <aliendude5300> Sigh... I'm hating 13.04 already. Should have stayed with 12.10... at least it worked
[00:56] <micahcowan> So, you had zero problems with 12.10?
[00:56] <goonface> Ubuntu craptastic
[00:56] <levolent> goonface usw?
[00:56] <micahcowan> You might consider installing 12.10, and possibly doing the upgrade from there (or not)
[00:56] <helo> aliendude5300: when i'm having graphics issues that lead to an unusable system, i press "e" in grub, remove "quiet", change "splash" to "nosplash", and add "single"
[00:57] <helo> then it will boot to a root prompt that you can use to unsilly things
[00:57] <helo> just had to do that when my kernel was upgraded since i'm using the binary amd drivers
[00:57] <goonface> aliendude5300: dont listen to these nerds. Telk me whats wrong
[00:58] <aliendude5300> my system is freezing and locking up with noveau errors after a few seconds after booting
[00:58] <helo> well, if you're able to boot, you don't need single mode
[00:59] <helo> sorry, wasn't reading
[00:59] <goonface> aliendude5300: are u using 32 or 64 bit
[00:59] <aliendude5300> I'm getting errors from noveau saying GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon followed by a blank screen. I then have to do a hard reboot
[00:59] <aliendude5300> 64-bit
[00:59] <helo> you could try fglrx, or try installing the amd drivers from their website
[00:59] <helo> but that causes problems of its own
[00:59] <goonface> aliendude5300: you have nvidia
[01:00] <aliendude5300> fglrx is ati isn't it? I have a geforce card in my desktop
[01:00] <helo> oh geforce 0_o
[01:00] <micahcowan> aliendude5300, but are you still able to get a basic console on that blank screen, by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[01:00] <aliendude5300> goonface: yes. it's a geforce gtx 580
[01:00]  * helo realizes he should stop
[01:00] <micahcowan> You'll need that much at least to be able to potentially fix X
[01:00] <aliendude5300> micahcowan: I can before it freezes up, or if i boot into recovery mode
[01:00] <aliendude5300> after it freezes up, i can't do much except reboot
[01:01] <goonface> aliendude5300: are you using live disk or installed
[01:01] <aliendude5300> goonface: installed
[01:01] <semitones> micahcowan: I tested running the rc.local on its own, and it does what I want and exits. Is it good to go now?
[01:02] <goonface> aliendude5300: at grub do you know how to set NOMODESET
[01:02] <micahcowan> Seems to be :)
[01:02] <Anti-Sleep> Hello.
[01:03] <micahcowan> Just remember what you added there, in case you ever reinstall and have to remember :)
[01:03] <micahcowan> hi anti
[01:03] <semitones> micahcowan: great -- I just wanted to make sure there's not something else I need to do
[01:03] <Anti-Sleep> Greetings.
[01:03] <semitones> micahcowan: there should be some kind of registry that logs changes users make to anything outside of /home
[01:03] <aliendude5300> goonface: I could figure that out. don't you just edit the boot command or something? not sure where to put nomodeset though
[01:05] <goonface> aliendude5300: boot to grub and there is a Function key to set options
[01:05] <levolent> sup guys?
[01:06] <goonface> aliendude5300: i think its F6 then select NOMODESET
[01:07] <aliendude5300> there are no function keys listed on the grub screen, and pressing f6 does nothing
[01:07] <aliendude5300> i can get to recovery mode if that would be helpful
[01:07] <micahcowan> semitones, well, in the meantime, I keep my /etc as a git repository, so I have a history of changes (on my VPS, not my main desktop; I don't have to change /etc too often on my desktop)
[01:08] <levolent> how do you force a refresh of disks in gnome-disks?
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, you need nomodeset at the grub menu once?
[01:08] <semitones> micahcowan: cool, i'll remember that
[01:08] <micahcowan> dunno, I'm using xfce4, not gnome
[01:08] <Cyberai> I upgraded to 13.04 recently and I cannot set a desktop wallpaper in the Ubuntu Desktop. If I switch to Gnome3 it works fine. Can anyone help?
[01:09] <aliendude5300> i'm not really sure what nomodeset does... noveau is throwing up errors, and my system is crashing :/
[01:09] <aliendude5300> goonface told me to set nomodeset in GRUB so I'm going to try that
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | check the link.
[01:09] <HerrKlemmy> Hey everybody - how to use your onboard video card to display a third desktop on a third monitor ?
[01:10] <goonface> aliendude5300: can you press e while in grib
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, ^^^^^
[01:10] <goonface> Grub
[01:10] <aliendude5300> my system boots and works for about 25 seconds then crashes.
[01:11] <aliendude5300> sure. i did that and I'm at a text editor of sorts in grub with the Ubuntu boot commands in it
[01:11] <goonface> aliendude5300: press e in grub
[01:11] <aliendude5300> I did that.. ^^
[01:12] <HerrKlemmy> Help : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?
[01:12] <goonface> aliendude5300: you should be in edit mode.
[01:12] <aliendude5300> yes. i am
[01:13] <goonface> aliendude5300: scroll to the word QUEI
[01:13] <goonface> QUEIT
[01:13] <aliendude5300> found it
[01:14] <HerrKlemmy> Help : How to use your onboard video card to set up a third monitor ?
[01:14] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: are your other 2 monitors set
[01:15] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: I have two monitors working, one over VGA the other over an DVI to VGA adapter.
[01:15] <levolent> why is goonface acting normal in here trying to be helpful? he is the andchat troll
[01:15] <goonface> aliendude5300: leave space and type NOMODESET then cntrl-x
[01:15] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: using what grafix card, which driver
[01:16] <aliendude5300> alright, I'm at a desktop now. (solid state drive for the win)
[01:16] <aliendude5300> doesn't seem to be freezing yet
[01:16] <aliendude5300> no, it seems to be working. ]
[01:17] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: A  ATI RV516 XT Radeon X1600 Series with the drivers installed with the OS-installation
[01:17] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: no other works for me...
[01:17] <goonface> aliendude5300: you have to google how to make it permanent in GRUB.
[01:18] <aliendude5300> would it be a good idea to install the nvidia drivers since it seems to be a driver issue?
[01:19] <thorby> Hi
[01:19] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: i am going out on a limb here, is there an xorg.conf for your setuyp in /etc/X11
[01:20] <HerrKlemmy> nope
[01:20] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: nope
[01:20] <aliendude5300> thanks for helping me :) I think I'm going to make nomodeset permanent and try to get the proprietary drivers up and running so I can use the full capabilities of my GPU
[01:20] <chrisdone> anybody here got ubuntu to work in dual boot on the retina macbook pro? whatever i seem to try, refit/refind,grub, it always seems to say "missing operating system" when trying to boot linux
[01:20] <goonface> aliendude5300: never tried Ubuntu. It seems you already have Nvidia installed. In terminal type NVIDIA-SETTINGS
[01:20] <mibitzi> does skype work with any nvidia driver on amd64?
[01:21] <aliendude5300> nvidia-settings: command not found
[01:22] <chrisdone> i'm gonna have to send it back to apple if i can't get ubuntu to even boot =/
[01:22] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: make sure your system allows the use of both simultaneously, i've known systems that allowd a graphics card to handle displays but disable onboard, so doublecheck the BIOS settings
[01:23] <betrayd> HerrKlemmy: cycle/pageup/down thru the choices
[01:23] <goonface> aliendude5300: ubuntu i think has easy way to install nvidia. When it installs Nvidia it should fix the NOMODESET issue.
[01:24] <chrisdone> pfft, i'm gonna try installing ubuntu OVER os x. if it fails to boot then, i'll have to send it back and get a refund
[01:24] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: ok, thx, thaths a helpful information - I'll do so, but now i have to go to sleep - thx for your help
[01:24] <aliendude5300> goonface: alright, thanks. I'll try to find a way to install nvidia in ubuntu. I think I should be able to do that with a simple apt-get command now that I have my system up and running
[01:24] <betrayd> gnite HerrKlemmy font awnt you to waste your time
[01:24] <aliendude5300> does anyone know the name of the proprietary nvidia driver package?
[01:24] <betrayd> don't want
[01:25] <betrayd> chrisdone: better to troubleshoot that 'no OS found'
[01:25] <HerrKlemmy> betrayd: hopefully there is somebody  online, who can help me, when i got my information... but my bed cries for me :)
[01:26] <betrayd> thats ok HerrKlemmy everything starts  with BIOS beingOK with it
[01:26] <aliendude5300> after a quick google search, i'm going to install nvidia-current. that should work
[01:26] <UserAttack> Running Xubuntu.. How come my battery display is empty until I plug in then out?
[01:26] <goonface> aliendude5300: try system+settings look for hardware drivers
[01:27] <goonface> aliendude5300: i think ubuntu idiot prof
[01:28] <chrisdone> betrayd: well the OS is on there. the ubuntu installer created the partition and a swap. googling the error message doesn't give me anything i understand
[01:28] <betrayd> installed from a stick?
[01:28] <chrisdone> yeah
[01:28] <betrayd> chrisdone: ^
[01:28] <goonface> Proofed it. System-settings should be hardware driverd
[01:28] <betrayd> make sure the ctick isnt in there when you boot
[01:28] <betrayd> stick* chrisdone ^
[01:28] <chrisdone> it's not
[01:29] <betrayd> chrisdone: you had the grub install to the hdd, what awas the name fo the drive
[01:30] <chrisdone> betrayd: swap was /dev/sda5 and the ext4 was /dev/sda6
[01:30] <betrayd> chrisdone: and you designated what for grub destination?
[01:31] <goonface> aliendude5300: what version of Ubuntu you using
[01:31] <aliendude5300> 13.04
[01:31] <betrayd> chrisdone: usually people say sda1 when grub can only accept sda
[01:31] <chrisdone> betrayd: i don't know what that means. the ubuntu installer didn't ask me about grub destination
[01:31] <betrayd> well thats usually the last step
[01:31] <chrisdone> betrayd: how do i find out that?
[01:31] <chrisdone> hmm yeah
[01:32] <chrisdone> in the guides they all say "and by the way tell it to install grub for you"
[01:32] <chrisdone> except this ubuntu 13.04 just says "install finished" and asks me to reboot
[01:32] <betrayd> chrisdone: not that you skipped the part, it wasn't even offered?
[01:33] <chrisdone> i looked for it, it's supposed to be an "advanced" button before the final step, but nothing appeared
[01:33] <betrayd> hmmm, this is a mac, so i can't be 100% sure
[01:33] <chrisdone> i even did the custom way so i have to choose the partitions and such
[01:34] <betrayd> chrisdone: if you go through the install is there a way for you to remain online
[01:34] <chrisdone> yeah i have two macbooks. the macbookpro 5,5 works perfectly with ubuntu, i'm using that now to talk to you
[01:34] <chrisdone> i have the installer open presently on the retina
[01:34] <chrisdone> "try  ubuntu" or "install ubuntu", it asks
[01:35] <betrayd> but before you jump into that, maybe a grub updatre might set things rightr
[01:35] <aliendude5300> goonface: Installing the nvidia-current package that I found via a Google search seems to have worked. After rebooting, my system isn't crashing. :)
[01:35] <droffel> Does anyone know of something I could install to allow for quick-reply to messages in Empathy within the xMessage notification box?
[01:35] <goonface> aliendude5300: 12.10 had a problem installing Nvidia. Kernel build was not installed. Bug never fixed
[01:35] <chrisdone> betrayd: so i did attempt a grub-update based on some instructions to chroot to the /dev/sda6 partition with mounts, but it seemed to effect no change
[01:35] <chrisdone> betrayd: is that what you mean?
[01:36] <betrayd> chrisdone: yeah
[01:36] <chrisdone> if i open gparted, how do i know that grub is setup properly?
[01:36] <Morph4me> chrisdone :black screen ? for try or install ubuntu ?
[01:36] <betrayd> on a mac
[01:36] <goonface> aliendude5300: okay.
[01:36] <betrayd> chrisdone: give Morph4me the info
[01:37] <betrayd> 'no os' etc
[01:37] <chrisdone> Morph4me: try/install ubuntu works fine, the GUI opens. i run through the installer and it says 'finished' and i reboot, but then when i choose to run it with the macbook pro bootloader, it says 'Missing operating system'
[01:37] <dank101> how laggy is tf2 on 13.04 without graphics drivers
[01:38] <Morph4me> chrisdone: but the installer is black screen and not pruple at the begining right?
[01:39] <chrisdone> Morph4me: i mean, the mbp gives me a choice between 'os x/os x backup/windows', but i have no windows, it calls linux windows. i also tried efit/efind which did the same thing
[01:39] <dank101> anyone?
[01:39] <chrisdone> Morph4me: the installer shows the normal ubuntu desktop background with the dialog box... what do you mean black or purple?
[01:40] <betrayd> chrisdone: he's referring to a different problem i think
[01:40] <goonface> dank101: slow
[01:40] <betrayd> reported
[01:40] <Morph4me> where it says  "try or install" that screen purple or black ?
[01:40] <dank101> goonface, FUUUUUUUU
[01:40] <chrisdone> Morph4me: neither
[01:41] <betrayd> chrisdone: gparted won't show you where grub is, it can show you current partitions and put a 'bootable' flag
[01:41] <Arrarita> Hello, is there a specific topic here or can I describe my problem here?
[01:41] <goonface> dank101: generic drivers are slow.
[01:42] <chrisdone> betrayd: what makes the boot system decide whether an OS is "missing" or not? the bootable flag?
[01:42] <dank101> goonface, will installing it from the Ubuntu repos break unity/OpenGL
[01:43] <betrayd> chrisdone: afaik, the bootable flag is only recognized by linux...
[01:43] <tarvid> dnsmasq
[01:43] <kostkon_> !ask | Arrarita
[01:43] <tarvid> dnsmasq!
[01:43] <chrisdone> blargh, i shouldn't have ordered this ;_;
[01:43] <Arrarita> I have been having a major problem since upgrading to 12.10.  My screen fades in and out and the pages scroll uncontrollably.  No one seems to be able to help.
[01:44] <goonface> dank101: only ubuntu 12.10 had driver instal issues
[01:44] <betrayd> chrisdone: all you need is a cold one maybe
[01:44] <Arrarita> I upgraded to 13.04 and it's the same thing.
[01:44] <dank101> goonface, strange, happen to me on 12.04
[01:44] <chrisdone> betrayd: a what?
[01:44] <Arrarita> When the screen fades it freezes and I have to force quit and restart
[01:45] <betrayd> chrisdone: nvm
[01:45] <betrayd> not important
[01:45] <Arrarita> Please bear with me, I am new to this.
[01:46] <Morph4me> chrisdone: have you looked at this > http://linuxmacbookproretina.blogspot.ca/2012/12/ubuntu-1304-daily-build-macbook-pro.html
[01:47] <tarvid> Arrarita, is your mouse pointer stable?
[01:47] <Arrarita> Yes my mouse is stable
[01:48] <tarvid> Arrarita, Laptop with a touch pad?
[01:48] <Arrarita> desktop
[01:48] <Arrarita> the problem is so bad, I purchased a Mac laptop just so that I could do my work.
[01:48] <tarvid> Arrarita, Do you have a spare keyboard?
[01:49] <Arrarita> yes and a spare mouse
[01:49] <tarvid> Have you tried the spare keyboard?
[01:49] <caleb__> My smtp/postfix is sending out tons of spam and I have tried so many things to fix it. Any help?
[01:49] <Arrarita> No because they work fine on the laptop
[01:50] <Arrarita> would the keyboard and mouse cause my screen to constantly freeze and fade in and out?
[01:50] <caleb__> would someone atleast point me in the right direction for help
[01:50] <tarvid> They could stream in interrupts
[01:51] <Arrarita> what if I use the USB ports
[01:51] <chrisdone> Morph4me: i saw other guides like it -- it says to copy /boot/vmlinuz* from the live cd. but such a file doesn't exist in my /boot
[01:51] <chrisdone> Morph4me: neither does the /boot/initrd*
[01:51] <tarvid> caleb__, postfix wouldn't do that by itself, you are hacked
[01:51] <aliendude5300> Hey, so I just noticed that the Ubuntu installer didn't notice my Windows 8 partition, and there is no entry in the GRUB  menu despite it existing on my disk and me being able to access the files. How can I make it show up in GRUB so that I  can boot to Windows 8?
[01:52] <Morph4me> k
[01:52] <Gumby`> caleb__: first start to check if you are an open relay
[01:52] <betrayd> chrisdone: be careful what the dates are on those helpful guides
[01:52] <Gumby`> tarvid: jumping to "hacked" is quite an aggressive statement. he may simply be an open relay
[01:52] <tarvid> Good point Gumby` but postfix is not open by default
[01:52] <Gumby`> tarvid: it doesnt send spam by default (as you pointed out) either ;)
[01:53] <chrisdone> Morph4me: maybe it means i should mount the / on the resulting ext4 ubuntu system and take the files from there? i'll re-install again and see if they're there
[01:53] <aliendude5300> Running Ubuntu 13.04 on a dual-boot installation with a Windows 8 partition present, by the way.
[01:53] <tarvid> If he is sending spam he should shut down postfix and inspect the queue
[01:54] <Gumby`> caleb__: also, make sure it isnt your mail client or pc it resides on.  if something within your allowed relay has a virus it could be that also
[01:54] <Gumby`> tarvid: inded he should
[01:55] <Gumby`> I'd help more but I am far from a postfix guru
[01:55] <uroyanme> e u.
[01:56] <Morph4me> chrisdone: Macs don't make  it easy do they ? and betrayed, good point ...noted ;)
[01:56] <Gumby`> although I must say, for someone who desperately needs help, it seems odd that they'd ask a Q and then not pay attention for responses
[01:58] <tophalf01> What do you guys think about KDE?
[01:58] <Arrarita> Responses?
[01:58] <tophalf01> I use GNOME right now, but I think I might switch.
[01:59] <LinDol> why?
[02:00] <LinDol> what did you have problem? :)
[02:01] <wdonkey> anyone feel like helping me out with some cairo-dock setting problem ?
[02:02] <wdonkey> i know its of a deconcerting futility when compared to the war raging in the world or the hunger, but if anyone knowledgeable enough has a minute or two to spare..
[02:02] <Arrarita> Would my keyboard and mouse cause my computer to constantly freeze and scroll uncontrollably?
[02:02] <caleb__> I should shut down postfix and inspect the queu?
[02:03] <caleb__> What am I looking for? I am looking at the logs and they are humming
[02:03] <caleb__> this is regarding the email spam issue
[02:03] <hachre> Arrarita: no
[02:03] <dfrey> I'm having problems with audio since "upgrading" to 13.04.  I still see my audio devices in lspci, but when I click "sound settings" under the volume icon, only one output is available (should be 2) and on the one output, there is only a single "profile" listed in the drop-down menu (there should be many)
[02:04] <tarvid> caleb__, service postfix stop
[02:04] <hachre> Arrarita: do you have nvidia graphics?
[02:04] <Arrarita> I think so
[02:04] <hachre> Arrarita: did you install the nvidia binary driver?
[02:04] <Arrarita> No I did not.  I have no clue as to what that is or that I needed to do that.
[02:05] <dfrey> Furthermore, running alsamixer now says "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: it depends on what card you have specifically, but that symptom you have is something I have as well with the default driver
[02:05] <caleb__> travid is there anyway we can get on a another channel
[02:05] <wdonkey> dfrey:  do you have sound ?
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: go into the unity menu and type software, then select software & updates
[02:05] <Arrarita> ok, so how do I install it?
[02:05] <caleb__> I really want this to get fixed. the mail log exceeds around 2 gig every day
[02:05] <hachre> Arrarita: on the last tab of the window that comes up you have a few choices for alternative graphics drivers
[02:06] <tarvid> caleb__, you can make a channel and invite me
[02:06] <hachre> Arrarita: I recommend nvidia-313-updates - it should be in that list
[02:06] <Arrarita> ok I am confused, this is new to me.
[02:06] <Arrarita> I need to get to the Unity menu
[02:06] <Arrarita> let me write this down
[02:06] <hachre> Arrarita: arent you next to that computer?
[02:07] <Arrarita> yes I am
[02:07] <hachre> Arrarita: well so just do it ;D
[02:07] <Arrarita> easy for you
[02:07] <caleb__> I have no idea how. I havn't been on IRC since I was 15 lol do you have skype?
[02:07] <aliendude5300> anyone have any luck getting skype to work at all in Ubunut 13.04?
[02:07] <aliendude5300> Ubuntu*
[02:08] <dfrey> wdonkey: Only through the "Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output" listed in sound settings.  It's an optical cable that goes from my soundcard to my receiver.  This soundcard used to show many output options and I can no longer see the HDMI audio option of my video card
[02:08] <Arrarita> I don't know what the Unity menu is
[02:08] <caleb__> If you don't have skype I am sure I can figure it out
[02:08] <tarvid> caleb__, gmail chat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:08] <hachre> Arrarita: the first button on that bar on the left
[02:08] <Arrarita> ok let me try that
[02:08] <hachre> Arrarita: with the ubuntu logo and the swirl
[02:09] <dank101> is unity in 13.04 using Qt?
[02:09] <hachre> dank101: as far as I know mostly not
[02:10] <hachre> dank101: Qt is coming with unity-next
[02:10] <dank101> hachre, WHY IS IT SO MUCH FASTER? LOL!
[02:10] <caleb__> just sent invite
[02:10] <dank101> it's butter
[02:10] <hachre> hehe :)
[02:10] <dank101> it was a ROCK in 12.10
[02:10] <hachre> I guess they made some improvements ;D
[02:11] <Arrarita> Thank you for your help and your patience, it's installing now.
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> I have noticed a distinct increase in performance speed after my update from final beta to official release. It's amazing.
[02:11] <dank101> and does nvidia drivers from the settings break unity, like in 12.10, and break OpenGL in all versions
[02:11] <aliendude5300> when i run skype after installing it from skype.com on my 64-bit Ubuntu installation, I get a segmentation fault, and skype closes
[02:11] <hachre> Arrarita: np :)
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> aliendude5300: Which version?
[02:12] <caleb__> I sent you an invite and a email. thanks travid
[02:12] <DaemonicApathy> Of Ubuntu, that is. 13.04, or earlier?
[02:12] <dank101> anyone?
[02:13] <hachre> dank101: no
[02:13] <hachre> dank101: if you install the nivida drivers that are in the software & updates menu those are fine
[02:13] <dank101> hache OH MY GOD
[02:14] <dank101> WHAT DID CONONICAL DO TO MAKE 13.04 SO MUCH BETTER?
[02:14] <hachre> didnt sleep 6 months
[02:14] <hachre> :D
[02:14] <KyeRussell> dat capslock you got there is pretty intense
[02:14] <dank101> I'm sooooooooo happy!
[02:15] <dank101> Now i can play half-life and tf2!
[02:15] <FearNotMan>  I have a weird problem, and I'm hoping you guys can help me.  When I installed, I selected the full disk encryption with LVM option.  Everything worked great for a while.  Now for some reason when I boot up I am not asked for a key to decrypt the encrypted portion, but rather Gnome tries to start up and then displays the screen in the picture on this question:
[02:16] <hachre> FearNotMan: link missing
[02:16] <Arrarita> OK, it has finishing installing.  I hope this works.  Thank you again and have a good night.
[02:16] <caleb__> tarvid you there?
[02:16] <hachre> Arrarita: night :)
[02:16] <FearNotMan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up
[02:16] <FearNotMan> Here's a paste output from boot-repair
[02:16] <FearNotMan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5606802/
[02:17] <aliendude5300> 13.04
[02:18] <dank101> i wish i could pay cononical
[02:18] <dank101> but im broke
[02:18] <tarvid> caleb__, I'm here, just preoccuped
[02:18] <hachre> FearNotMan: someone who has experience with luks should be able to help you with that
[02:19] <FearNotMan> hachre:  Is there someone here that has experience with luks?
[02:20] <hachre> FearNotMan: you'll have to wait and see... I don't sadly
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, You are missing grub boot files and a fstab in your install.
[02:20] <FearNotMan> hachre:  No problem.  Thanks for you help!
[02:21] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee:  Any idea how it happened, or how to fix it?
[02:22] <Biafra> Okay, turns out the issue with the clean install crashing was due to checking the box to install the Fluendo codecs
[02:22] <Biafra> that's odd
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, Not sure the cause, personally I would chroot to the install from a live media and purge and reinstall grub, the bootrepair tool might have a purge and reinstall option but I never use it so don't know.
[02:24] <alien2050> anyone knows how to rescale an application in dual screen? Its kinda stuck in the middle of the two displays and cannot be expanded for some reason... I want the app to be 3000x1080 instead of 1900x1080.... all my windows (gnome) have this behavior
[02:24] <betrayd> the app might think 1900x1080 is the max
[02:25] <betrayd> alien2050: not twinview on nvidia?
[02:26] <alien2050> yes, twinview on nvidia
[02:26] <_mote_> !version
[02:26] <Freel0ader> hi friends!
[02:26] <Freel0ader> https://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier
[02:26] <Freel0ader> any way to use that with gnome-shell, so i can use with fedora?
[02:27] <dank101> ask on #fedora
[02:27] <alien2050> it kind of work if I put the window in the middle of the two screens and then resize it, BUT its kinda weird behavior sometimes when resizing it snaps back to only one monitor
[02:27] <Freel0ader> no
[02:27] <Freel0ader> it's an ubuntu program
[02:27] <dank101> Freel0ader, IT WORKS MULTI-LINUX
[02:27] <betrayd> alien2050: are you able to get to nvidia X server settings
[02:28] <Freel0ader> dank101, IM WONDERING IF YOU CAN USE IT WITH GNOME-SHELL
[02:28] <dank101> Freel0ader: YES!
[02:28] <alien2050> I think there's some application that manages the screen that manages that, but I can't find it...
[02:28] <alien2050> betrayd: yes I'm in nvidia-settings
[02:28] <dank101> Freel0ader, now treat people like people
[02:28] <alien2050> betrayd: you think the option in there somewhere?
[02:28] <dank101> i gave honest advice and you yelled at me
[02:29] <betrayd> alien2050: save your current xorg.conf
[02:29] <Freel0ader> dank101, you yelled at me, bro
[02:29] <dank101> Freel0ader, so it popped out
[02:29] <betrayd> alien2050: you might have to disable twinview and go for BigDesktop
[02:29] <Freel0ader> i just wish i could find a gnome version of this program
[02:29]  * dank101 facepalms
[02:29] <Freel0ader> that shows google voice sms
[02:30] <Freel0ader> dank101, don't taze me, bro
[02:30] <betrayd> lol
[02:30] <dank101> Freel0ader, the notifactions on unity are gnome are =
[02:30] <Freel0ader> oh
[02:30] <Freel0ader> i mean, would it appear as a shell applet?
[02:30] <alien2050> betrayd: I see... but it looks like it's another application that manages the windows that does that, for example when I resize I see the window shade with a different color
[02:30] <dank101> yes
[02:30] <Freel0ader> WELL THEN
[02:30] <Freel0ader> i stand CORRECTED
[02:30] <dank101> no wonder 90% of gnome apps are on ubuntu
[02:31] <dank101> i looked up system in unity
[02:31] <Freel0ader> let's see if i can even compile it
[02:31] <dank101> i saw a windows box
[02:31] <dank101> i am offended
[02:32] <Freel0ader> dank101, hugs?
[02:32] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: I tried reinstalling grub using the boot-repair tool, but it made no difference.  I found the fstab in the /etc but that is part of the encrypted partition, so I would think the problem must be in /boot somewhere since that is the only thing that is unencrypted at startup time
[02:32] <dank101> Freel0ader, i need some
[02:33] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: I am running a Live CD with the disk mounted and unencrypted
[02:33] <Arrarita> Hello again, I am still having the problem with my screen freezing and pages scrolling.  Is there something else I can do?
[02:33] <betrayd> alien2050: some things you might be able to run in 'advanced mode' in nvidia X server settings
[02:33] <dank101> Freel0ader, i forgot to mention, it will compile as a deb
[02:33] <Freel0ader> bzr branch lp:gvoice-notifier doing this now
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, Could be, I have not seen if there grub files are not detectable, however you are missing grub files.
[02:33] <dank101> use alien to covert it to a RPM
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: out of ideas then, sorry
[02:34] <Freel0ader> i wonder if development is dead
[02:34] <Arrarita> Would another of those drivers work?
[02:34] <Freel0ader> how do i compile it after i bzr?
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: I doubt it
[02:34] <Freel0ader> oh, just like svn
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: if it behaves the same way it wasnt the driver
[02:34] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Do you know which grub files are missing? Is that in the report?
[02:34] <hachre> Arrarita: is it a laptop?
[02:34] <betrayd> Arrarita: keyboard and mouse both USB?
[02:35] <Freel0ader> crap!
[02:35] <Arrarita> No, my desktop
[02:35] <Arrarita> not using USB
[02:35] <Arrarita> I hate to give up Ubuntu, but with every update things get worse
[02:35] <dank101> Freel0ader, mind if i make this easier for you
[02:36] <Arrarita> and I am not savy enough to figure things out.
[02:36] <Freel0ader> yay
[02:36] <alien2050> betrayd: yeah I didn't think of that, but it doesn't change anything for now... even in different mode; BUT I did manage to find that compiz is loaded, so it must be an option in ccsm somewhere
[02:36] <Arrarita> I can't do my work
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, This is what mine shows /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab /boot/grub/core.img
[02:36] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.auto - drat
[02:36] <hachre> Arrarita: does it happen constantly or only when you are in a browser?
[02:37] <heroandtn3> Hello, I'm using GNOME Shell 3.6.3 on Ubuntu 13.04 and has an issue with GNOME Shell memory leak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnEens9Byeg
[02:37] <betrayd> alien2050: i went with bigDesktop so the twin displays acted as 1 large side of a cube
[02:37] <heroandtn3> I have this issue since Ubuntu 12.10 and this has not been fixed in Ubuntu 13.04
[02:37] <Arrarita> When I have a browser open, it affects everything, including word documents
[02:37] <heroandtn3> what I should do to fix this?
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: and when you close the browser it stops?
[02:38] <trism> Freel0ader: python-distutils-extra
[02:38] <Arrarita> yes
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: firefox or chrome?
[02:38] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Thank you very much for your help.  I am missing the core.img
[02:38] <alien2050> betrayd: Do you mean "seperate X screen" ? or is there a BigDesktop mode? I've got the latest 330.xx installed
[02:38] <Arrarita> Firefox
[02:38] <alien2050> betrayd: I don't see a BigDesktop option
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: its the accelerated rendering of the browser, so its a graphics issue after all... weird that the driver didnt fix it...
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> FearNotMan, the sda5 wont show what is there so it is kinda hard to really tell.
[02:38] <hachre> Arrarita: can you go to the unity menu again and type nvidia-settings
[02:38] <betrayd> alien2050: am not sure if you'll see it when Twinview is enabled
[02:39] <OerHeks> !bug | heroandtn3
[02:39] <Arrarita> ok
[02:39] <hachre> Arrarita: there is a section on the left called Thermal Settings
[02:39] <betrayd> you might have to search wikis for nvidia multimonitor compiz, et
[02:39] <hachre> Arrarita: it tells you the temperature of the graphics card, what is it?
[02:39] <betrayd>  etc*
[02:40] <Freel0ader> poopie
[02:40] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named indicate
[02:40] <Arrarita> I can't find a thermal setting, but I do have an indicator on my box and the CPU says 33
[02:40] <hachre> Arrarita: yeah but we need the graphics card
[02:41] <alien2050> betrayd: ATI's Big Desktop is similar to NVIDIA's TwinView under Linux... so I guess bigDesktop on radeon is the equivalent of twinview on nvidia
[02:41] <Arrarita> would that be it?
[02:41] <heroandtn3> OerHeks: thanks, I will try
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: no thats the processor
[02:41] <Arrarita> ok, I opened the menu and I typed Nvidia
[02:41] <betrayd> alien2050: see what tips there are so that the graphical representation of hte 2 displays can be merged onto 1 spanning desktop
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: doesnt it finda  program called nvidia x server settings?
[02:41] <Arrarita> onboard settings came up and settings
[02:41] <Arrarita> I don't see anything like that
[02:41] <hachre> Arrarita: seems to me your driver instalaltion didnt work
[02:42] <hachre> Arrarita: can you go on the terminal and type
[02:42] <betrayd> hachre: it might appear on a root menu
[02:42] <Arrarita> let me open a terminal
[02:42] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings
[02:42] <Freel0ader> drat
[02:42] <Freel0ader> i think libindicate is just ubuntu
[02:43] <trism> Freel0ader: wouldn't help in 12.10+ anyway since the messaging menu uses a new api now
[02:43] <Arrarita> it's installing
[02:43] <hachre> Arrarita: both or only one of them?
[02:43] <Arrarita> Both?
[02:44] <Arrarita> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:44] <Arrarita>   nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:44] <Arrarita> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:44] <Arrarita>   nvidia-settings
[02:44] <Arrarita> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:44] <FloodBot1> Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:44] <Arrarita> Need to get 1,820 kB of archives.
[02:44] <Belial> if you tried to spell "ubuntu" as "butnut" there'd still be an extra "u."
[02:44] <Belial> you know what i mean?
[02:44] <hachre> Arrarita: ok that was wrong
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:45] <Arrarita> OK
[02:45] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: Thanks again for your help!  I am slowly piecing this thing together...
[02:45] <Arrarita> I copied and pasted what you have here, is that ok?
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: yea I saw, do this instead
[02:45] <hachre> Arrarita: sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:45] <alien2050> betrayd: best I could find was panning option, but it pans the whole desktop as 3840x1080 on the first monitor instead...
[02:45] <Freel0ader> drat!
[02:45] <Freel0ader> trism, so i cant use it???
[02:46] <alien2050> betrayd: that's in the "advanced options" of nvidia-settings...
[02:46] <dank101> Freel0ader, https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5BIHhwzM7wWUmJVOFRyWXQzSkk/edit?usp=sharing
[02:46] <trism> Freel0ader: it would need to be ported first
[02:46] <dank101> works on fedora
[02:46] <dank101> i ported it
[02:46] <Arrarita>  sudo apt-get install nvidia-313-updates nvidia-settings-313-updates
[02:46] <Arrarita> Reading package lists... Done
[02:46] <Arrarita> Building dependency tree
[02:46] <Arrarita> Reading state information... Done
[02:46] <Arrarita> nvidia-313-updates is already the newest version.
[02:46] <FloodBot1> Arrarita: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <Arrarita> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:46] <betrayd> alien2050: i almost didn't have to set up the second monitor and it'd show me the rest of whats on the left just fine
[02:47] <OerHeks> AaronDCampbell,
[02:47] <betrayd> alien2050: you may want to try the max window trick
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: good, the other thing it should have installed now
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: try searching for nvidia-settings again
[02:47] <hachre> Arrarita: in that menu
[02:47] <OerHeks> Arrarita, please use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[02:48] <Arrarita> Not sure I understand
[02:48] <betrayd> Arrarita: dont dump all the text here is all
[02:49] <alien2050> betrayd: just to be clear, I see the two output, I just can't scale an application spanning from the first monitor to the second one, it "glues" in the middle while resizing with a colored shade (which I'm guessing comes from compiz option somewhere)
[02:49] <Arrarita> oh ok, sorry
[02:49] <auscompgeek> Arrarita, as a general rule of thumb, pasting more than 3 lines in IRC is frowned upon
[02:49] <betrayd> alien2050: understood, but the apps all think thats the max
[02:49] <Arrarita> I do apologize
[02:49] <betrayd> the 'wrong' max
[02:49] <Arrarita> This is my first time using this thing.
[02:49] <betrayd> nostress Arrarita
[02:49] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: who told you that?
[02:50] <auscompgeek> mmhmm, it's something I've observed across the years
[02:50] <hachre> Arrarita: any luck starting nvidia-settings now?
[02:50] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: so you don't have a soure?
[02:50] <Arrarita> OK, you said to search for something
[02:50] <Arrarita> ok, let me look for that.
[02:50] <auscompgeek> mmhmm: not really
[02:50] <Arrarita> No, same thing
[02:50] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: how many years have you been on irc?
[02:51] <hachre> Arrarita: try launching it via the terminal, nvidia-settings
[02:51] <alien2050> betrayd: yeah it looks like they think it's the max... that's too bad... I really thought it was only a simple configuration option... I've had bad experiences when not using twinview... oh well... thank you for your help
[02:52] <tophalf01> I've been using IRC sinc 1989 hurhur <.>
[02:52] <betrayd> you're welcome, alien2050
[02:52] <Arrarita> Just type nvidia-settings ?
[02:52] <hachre> Arrarita: yea
[02:52] <auscompgeek> mmhmm: lost track
[02:53] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: it's time to get back on track.
[02:53] <mmhmm> auscompgeek: general rule of thumb.
[02:53] <alien2050> betrayd: and you know what, it DOES work when putting the window in the middle, then stretching on the second monitor, then moving it back to the center, resizing again, move, resize, etc... its just long and boring to do...
[02:54] <Arrarita> ok, something about not using the NVIDIA X driver, edit X configuration
[02:54] <Arrarita> and another box
[02:54] <hachre> Arrarita: can you run lspci and paste that output to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <Arrarita> NVIDIA X Server Settings
[02:54] <alien2050> betrayd: and if I do xwininfo on the stretched window, it has accepted it new width and height
[02:54] <betrayd> alien2050: you might want to try devilspie (which will enforce a max window the alternative way)
[02:54] <betrayd> if its in the repos
[02:55] <alien2050> betrayd: cool let me try that... thx again
[02:55] <betrayd> ywelcome alien2050 and have fun, don't forget
[02:56] <mmhmm> does anyone like pie?
[02:56] <dank101> ME!
[02:56] <mmhmm> what kind of pie?
[02:56] <Corey> Let's keep this on topic. :-)
[02:56] <mmhmm> ok...let's see
[02:56] <dank101> mmhmm, LINUX PIE!
[02:56] <mmhmm> does anyone like pie while using ubuntu?
[02:56] <dank101> YES!
[02:56] <mmhmm> what kind of pie do you like while using ubuntu?
[02:57] <dank101> it's on topic 'cause it's ubuntu pie
[02:57] <dank101> Ubuntu pie
[02:57] <mmhmm> does anyone use ubuntu while having poontang pie?
[02:58] <Arrarita> NVIDIA X Server Settings, is this what I need?
[02:58] <hachre> Arrarita: yeah, if it shows the temperature
[02:58] <hachre> Arrarita: but with that error message i doubt it
[02:58] <mmhmm> what about eating ice cream cake while using ubuntu?
[02:58] <mmhmm> would someone rather eat ice cream cake or eat pie while using ubuntu?
[02:59] <Arrarita> I don't see anything with a temperature
[02:59] <Guest22816> ice cream cake
[02:59] <mmhmm> that's right
[02:59] <hachre> Arrarita: please do lspci and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:59] <kostkon> Arrarita, have you opened your box, removed your card and reinserted it just to make sure that it sits well in the pci slot?
[03:00] <Arrarita> I think that is way past what I am able to do.
[03:00] <kostkon> Arrarita, ok then
[03:00] <Guest22816> anyone else get crazy cpu spike and over heating while using flash?
[03:00] <Guest22816> spikes*
[03:00] <hachre> Guest22816: ya, thats normal
[03:00] <Arrarita> I had to take my box to be reinstalled because Launchpad told me something to do and my machine would not even boot up
[03:00] <Arrarita> he had to reconfigure something
[03:01] <Arrarita> and he checked everything
[03:01] <Arrarita> this was a couple of weeks ago
[03:01] <Arrarita> this problem started with one of those updates a couple of weeks after I installed 12.10
[03:01] <mmhmm> you guys ever use ubuntu?
[03:01] <kostkon> Arrarita, ah ok then. although it could be a temp problem as already suggested
[03:01] <Arrarita> I started getting messages that all the updates would not install
[03:01] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[03:02] <Arrarita> it's been crazy ever since
[03:02] <mmhmm> you guys ever use ubuntu.....ON WEED?
[03:02] <sonofzeus> How shall I change my lubuntu desktop into lubuntu server without reinstalling?
[03:02] <OerHeks> !ot| mmhmm
[03:02] <Arrarita> This box here is showing nvidia-settings configuration
[03:03] <Arrarita> temperature problem?
[03:03] <mmhmm> 0erHeks, topic is ubuntu qualified. thanks for participating.
[03:03] <Arrarita> What's a HDD
[03:03] <dank101> does Additional Drivers work on 13.04
[03:03] <Arrarita> or HPD
[03:03] <sonofzeus> hard drive
[03:03] <dank101> some people say it doesn;t
[03:03] <Arrarita> So small I can barely read it.
[03:03] <OerHeks> sonofzeus, there is no lubuntu-server, you can run any service at your lubuntu box.
[03:03] <Arrarita> that number says 26
[03:04] <Spaceghost> Hello.
[03:04] <mmhmm> !lubuntu| OerHeks
[03:04] <dank101> anyone?
[03:04] <OerHeks> mmhmm stop it.
[03:04] <Guest22816> why can't I add any ppa's on 13.04? do I have to wait untill their supported or something?
[03:04] <dank101> !ubuntu| ubottu
[03:04] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.
[03:04] <hachre> Guest22816: should work as usual, what doesnt work?
[03:04] <mmhmm> OerHeks: please stay on topic.
[03:04] <Spaceghost> I am using Kubuntu 12.10.
[03:05] <dank101> Anyone??
[03:06] <Arrarita> Where do I run nvidia-xconfig and restart the X server?
[03:06] <OerHeks> dank101, depends on your videocard, you cannot state "additional drivers do not work."
[03:07] <dank101> OerHeks, Thanks i have a nvidia 555m
[03:07] <dank101> GeForce
[03:07] <dank101> (Offically supported by nvidia)
[03:08] <mmhmm> !drivers| OerHeks
[03:08] <mmhmm> :(
[03:08] <Aaruni> hey guys. why doesn't "sudo halt" or "sudo shutdown now" power off my system ?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[03:08] <OerHeks> mmhmm stop that please, you are annoying
[03:09] <mmhmm> !ot| OerHeks
[03:09] <hachre> Aaruni: sudo poweroff
[03:09] <Aaruni> hachre: so, it will shutdown, and then poweroff ?
[03:09] <hachre> Aaruni: yes
[03:09] <Aaruni> hachre: so, what's the point of shutting down, or halting, without powering off/
[03:09] <OerHeks> !ops | mmhmm
[03:10] <mmhmm> !ops | OerHeks
[03:10] <hachre> Aaruni: well thats from ages ago when power off wasnt available, and they left those commands in for compatibility
[03:10] <Aww> ...
[03:10] <Aaruni> hachre: ok, thank you for clearing it up
[03:10] <hachre> Aaruni: if you want halt to act like poweroff you need to alias it in /etc/profile.d/
[03:10] <Aaruni> bye
[03:10] <hachre> bye
[03:10] <mmhmm> !help | OerHeks
[03:11] <Anti-S1eep> D:
[03:11] <Spaceghost> I am having a problem and it's that the Control Volume doesn't work and the sound works even in mute.
[03:11] <Spaceghost> I am using Kubuntu 12.10.
[03:11] <kostkon> wrong person
[03:12] <dank101> !kubuntu | Spaceghost
[03:12] <mmhmm> !fuck | you
[03:13] <Arrarita> Hello, how do I fix a temperature problem?
[03:13] <Freel0ader> hi
[03:13] <dank101> Arrarita, i know this issue
[03:13] <dank101> happens to me
[03:14] <Freel0ader> so does that mean the program wont work anymore?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> Freel0ader, greetings
[03:14] <dank101> let the computer sit
[03:14] <dank101> Freel0ader, ?
[03:14] <Arrarita> not sure that is what it is, but I am willing to try anything
[03:14] <dank101> Turn it off
[03:14] <Arrarita> turn what off?
[03:14] <dank101> the computer
[03:14] <dank101> 10m to 3hr
[03:15] <Arrarita> my problem has to do with my screen freezing and pages scrolling uncontrollably
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, destkop?laptop?  and have you cleaned the vents recently?
[03:15] <Arrarita> some else here suggested that it might be a temperature problem
[03:15] <Arrarita> desktop
[03:16] <Arrarita> it was just in the shop to be reconfigured so that I could use it after following some instruction from Launchpad on how to fix it.
[03:16] <Arrarita> The technician cleaned and checked everything
[03:16] <Arrarita> The other person suggested there might be a problem wtih the driver
[03:17] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, don't know how qualified your tech was, but fans/vents can and do get blocked ... any unusual noise?
[03:17] <alien2050> I found the solution finally... yes! no more resizing manually
[03:17] <dank101> probably overhesting
[03:17] <Arrarita> no noises
[03:17] <mdmkolbe> on my sister's laptop none of the screen widgets are showing when she logs in (i.e., all she sees is the background image).  Can someone help debug this?  I don't know where to start.
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !fan
[03:17] <Arrarita> this problem started with an update
[03:17] <Arrarita> after 12.10
[03:18] <Arrarita> prior to that I had no problems
[03:19] <turova> Hello! I just downloaded 13.04 and am trying to install it on a dell xps 17 (l702x) that has 2 graphics cards.  It won't boot into the desktop - I see a mouse cursor on a black screen. With 12.04, I had to use the alternate installer because the desktop installer wouldn't boot (most likely due to optimus).. With 13.04, there's no alternate installer image… Is there a way to get it working with 13.04?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, try this: reboot and choose and older kernel/version of ubuntu.  Monitor your temp.  If it fixes, then the kernel update is suspect
[03:20] <alien2050> mdmkolbe: could be an upgrade left some artifacts, trying pointing her home directory to another directory, so it will create a new gnome/kde profile when she logs in
[03:20] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|turova,
[03:20] <Arrarita> You have to bear with me, I don't understand half this stuff.  How do I choose an older version of ubuntu?  do I have to reinstall it?
[03:21] <Arrarita> and where do I monitor the temp?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, no problem.  reboot.  on the grub screen, you should see "older version" .   Choose one
[03:21] <unowindows8> hello all
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, however you are doing it now that makes you think it's too hot
[03:21] <unowindows8> I see you are busy with Arrarita but let me know when you can help me.  I messed up my grub, and can't even live boot on my Windows 8 machine
[03:22] <cfhowlett> unowindows8, greetings
[03:22] <Arrarita> I don't remember seeing that.  I just installed 13.04
[03:22] <Freel0ader> dank101,help
[03:22] <dank101> Freel0ader, yes
[03:22] <Arrarita> Another person I was working with here suggested it might be too hot.
[03:22] <Freel0ader> ImportError: No module named indicate
[03:22] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, ah, well, then you "upgraded" from 12.10 ... not update.  details matter.
[03:22] <dank101> Freel0ader, ubuntu only
[03:22] <dank101> sorry
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, another person?  on irc?  who isn't holding/touching your machine ... :)  Why do YOU think it's running hot?
[03:23] <Arrarita> This problem started with 12.10.  I upgraded today hoping this problem would be fixed and it's not
[03:23] <Arrarita> someone on irc
[03:24] <Freel0ader> dank101, so, i cant use this program after all:O
[03:24] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, what problem?  you said "temperature" issues .. so that's NOT the issue?  or did I misunderstand?
[03:24] <dank101> Freel0ader, sadly you are correct
[03:24] <Arrarita> OK, let me do this again.
[03:25] <unowindows8> hi cfhowlett
[03:25] <unowindows8> hadn't seen you
[03:25] <Arrarita> My problem has to do with my computer constantly freezing when I have my browser open and uncontrollable scrolling.
[03:25] <unowindows8> i broke my grub, already tried several things
[03:25] <Arrarita> It happens when I have a word document open as well
[03:25] <Arrarita> I can't do any work on it because it keeps freezing
[03:25] <Arrarita> and scrolling
[03:26] <Arrarita> Another person on irc first suggested it might be the driving not config correctly
[03:26] <ajm> hey everyone. need some help. I installed gnome-tweak-tool (per http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html) and ever since, my Unity has been completely borked. How can I reset everything back t ohow it was?
[03:26] <Arrarita> and I was not able to get into nvidia settings
[03:26]  * unowindows8 scratches his head for not reason at all
[03:26] <unowindows8> *no
[03:26] <turova> ubottu: I enabled that and could see the startup screen, but then it went to a black screen.  When I did ctrl-alt-f5, ctrl-alt-f7, it shows me the same black screen with a mouse pointer, but at a worse resolution than when I booted without that flag.  Are optimus issues generally fixed with nomodeset?  If so, maybe I should just flash the image onto a different usb stick and try again
[03:26] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, I see.  try this (suspecting desktop environment issues), logout.  click on the ubuntu icon to select a different envirnonent, i.e. non-unity.  login
[03:27] <turova> oh, right - I meant cfhowlett
[03:27] <Arrarita> I will try and figure that out, but I have no clue what a non-unity environment is.
[03:28] <Arrarita> Thank you, I am going to try that.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Arrarita, you'll see options on the login menu ... click the ubunt icon to trigger
[03:28] <Morph4me> she left
[03:28] <hachre> cfhowlett: I tried to help her before, and after a while she simply stopped responding to me...
[03:28] <hachre> cfhowlett: dont bother
[03:28] <hachre> ;)
[03:29] <dfrey> I'm having sound problems after upgrading to 13.04.  Are there any cached settings I can try deleting for pulseaudio or alsa?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> OK ...
[03:29] <hachre> cfhowlett: she has no working graphics drivers installed for acceleration and firefoxes web rendering acceleration causes her issues - i tried to make her give me an lspci output to figure out what graphics card she has but she stopped responding
[03:30] <Morph4me> i think it's like she says though it's a little over her head
[03:30] <hachre> yeah but she ran shell commands fine before, and also she could just say so instead of stopping to respond..
[03:31] <Morph4me> true but at times hse did say she couldn't grasp it ...frustrated i think
[03:31] <tophalf01> Ι'd јuѕt lіkе tο іntеrјесt fοr а mοmеnt. Wһаt уοu'rе rеfеrrіng tο аѕ Lіnux, іѕ іn fасt, GΝU/Lіnux, οr аѕ Ι'vе rесеntlу tаkеn tο саllіng іt, GΝU рluѕ Lіnux. Lіnux іѕ nοt аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtеm untο іtѕеlf, but rаtһеr аnοtһеr frее сοmрοnеnt οf а fullу funсtіοnіng GΝU ѕуѕtеm mаdе uѕеful bу tһе GΝU сοr
[03:31] <tophalf01> еlіbѕ, ѕһеll utіlіtіеѕ аnd vіtаl ѕуѕtеm сοmрοnеntѕ сοmрrіѕіng а full OS аѕ dеfіnеd bу ΡOSΙX.
[03:31] <tophalf01> Mаnу сοmрutеr uѕеrѕ run а mοdіfіеd vеrѕіοn οf tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm еvеrу dау, wіtһοut rеаlіzіng іt. Τһrοugһ а ресulіаr turn οf еvеntѕ, tһе vеrѕіοn οf GΝU wһісһ іѕ wіdеlу uѕеd tοdау іѕ οftеn саllеd "Lіnux", аnd mаnу οf іtѕ uѕеrѕ аrе nοt аwаrе tһаt іt іѕ bаѕісаllу tһе GΝU ѕуѕtеm, dеvеlοреd b
[03:31] <Morph4me> she*
[03:31] <tophalf01> у tһе GΝU Ρrοјесt.
[03:31] <tophalf01> Τһеrе rеаllу іѕ а Lіnux, аnd tһеѕе реοрlе аrе uѕіng іt, but іt іѕ јuѕt а раrt οf tһе ѕуѕtеm tһеу uѕе. Lіnux іѕ tһе kеrnеl: tһе рrοgrаm іn tһе ѕуѕtеm tһаt аllοсаtеѕ tһе mасһіnе'ѕ rеѕοurсеѕ tο tһе οtһеr рrοgrаmѕ tһаt уοu run. Τһе kеrnеl іѕ аn еѕѕеntіаl раrt οf аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtе
[03:31] <FloodBot1> tophalf01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <hachre> lol
[03:32] <hachre> what the hell
[03:32] <hachre> go spread your religion elsewhere :D
[03:32] <hachre> Linux isnt GNU and has nothing to do with GNU and GNU is no os
[03:33] <hachre> get your facts straight, preacher
[03:33] <tophalf01> Oh, God.
[03:33] <tophalf01> I'm switching to Hurd as soon as possible.
[03:33] <hachre> well good luck with that lol
[03:34] <tophalf01> So, what you're saying is, you don't know what GNU is.
[03:34] <hachre> no what I'm saying is you don't know the difference between userland tools and an os
[03:34] <Corey> Let's keep this channel for Ubuntu support, please.
[03:36] <aliendude5300> Hey, Ubuntu isn't detecting my Windows 8 partition, and I want to be able to dual boot into that for Photoshop CS5 and some other things that don't work with Linux quite yet (or as well)
[03:36] <aliendude5300> How can I fix that?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !ot|tophalf01,
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !uefi|aliendude5300, I'd suspect some uefi issues
[03:38] <aliendude5300> cfhowlett, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 right now. Is there anything I can do to add Windows 8 to the boot menu. Also, yes, I am on a UEFI system with SecureBoot disabled.
[03:44] <aliendude5300> Sigh... it would be really nice to get my dual boot working :/
[03:44] <Ed|Laptop> Hey Guys, currently running "release do-upgrade" on a Ubuntu 12.10 Server 64bit machine to update to Ubuntu 13.04 Server 64bit.   The Server has a gigabit internet connection and is using about 20% CPU/memory.    This update has been running almost 3 hours now, is this normal?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, kind of depends on your DL speed, innit?
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> Gigabit internet
[03:45] <aliendude5300> Ed|Laptop,  it might be because it's downloading the files. Because of the rather recent release, it would take longer because of the overloaded Ubuntu mirrors
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, but I suspect the servers are swamped ... torrent and clean install are the recommended work around
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> ok i gotcha
[03:45] <Ed|Laptop> that makes sense
[03:46] <snowrichard> oh there's a 2013 version just released...
[03:46] <Ed|Laptop> when did 2013.04 release? Wasn't it a couple weeks ago?
[03:47] <aliendude5300> April 25
[03:47] <ranjeet> Hi everyone, I am a new user to Ubuntu 12.10. Can someone help me turn off the firewall
[03:47] <mdmkolbe> alien2050: thx, for the suggestion.  It turns out that something was corrupted in the session like you suggested and a "unity --reset" fixed it.
[03:47] <Ed|Laptop> damn! ok that makes even more sense then, ok thanks  lol
[03:47] <ranjeet> I would like to access my machine from office?
[03:47] <sam113101> what am I doing wrong? https://gist.github.com/sam113101/b74c433486d291c307fd
[03:47] <cfhowlett> ranjeet, firewall is not enabled by default
[03:47] <turova> cfhowlett: I just reflashed onto a new usb stick and ran with and without nomodeset and neither of those helps
[03:48] <ranjeet> but why am I unable to connect from office to home or vice versa
[03:48] <ranjeet> any help is appreciated
[03:48] <cfhowlett> turova, re-ask in this channel and state your attempted fixes.  someone else might know
[03:49] <turova> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[03:49] <ranjeet> cfhowlett: anything you would suggest?
[03:50] <renzom> hey everyone, i just upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10 and when i restarted, the desktop appeared and a few seconds later a kernel-panic black window showed up. It happens everytime I start my notebook. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance
[03:50] <aliendude5300> renzom, I just had that exact same problem and spent 4 hours figuring it out... do you have an Nvidia GPU by any chance?
[03:52] <aliendude5300> here's how I fixed that: In GRUB I added the nomodeset flag after the quiet in the boot options, then I started up in recovery mode while plugged into ethernet, did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. That did the trick.
[03:52] <nastsu> could anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting
[03:53] <renzom> aliendude5300:  no i don't have an nvidia card :(
[03:53] <aliendude5300> try to do the same thing with fglrx instead of nvidia-current
[03:53] <aliendude5300> I think it might be a graphics driver issue for you too
[03:54] <aliendude5300> I upgraded by formatting my 12.10 partition, copying my /home to my external, and reinstalling 13.04. it was a pain, but I eventually got it
[03:54] <Guest75521> easist way to stream videos from my pc to tablet?
[03:54] <renzom> aliendude5300:  i'm sorry but i don't understand the "add the nomodeset flag" part of your explanation, can you further explain this part please?
[03:55] <Guest75521> renzom getting a blank screen? lol
[03:56] <aliendude5300> I honestly don't know what nomodeset does but it was suggested to me here when I asked for help. You hit e on the Ubuntu option, scroll your cursor to where it says 'quiet splash' then after quiet add a space and type "nomodeset" and then press ctrl-x to boot
[03:57] <renzom> aliendude5300:  excellent, i'll try that, thanks man!
[03:57] <aliendude5300> adding that option made it possible for me to boot, and then I installed the proprietary nvidia graphics driver which fixed all of my issues
[03:57] <nastsu> could anyone give me a hand, I was installing couchdb when it wouldnt stop so I used kill -9 {pid} and now it wont start again, even after purging and restarting
[03:57] <aliendude5300> you're welcome! :D
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> After trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?
[03:59] <turova> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 x64 desktop and can't seem to get the installer desktop to boot.  I have a dell xps 17 (l702x) with optimus, which, I'm pretty sure, is why it won't load.  I installed 12.04 with the alternate installer iso, but they don't seem to be making those anymore.  I also tried setting the nomodeset flag, but that doesn't seem to help either - I see the loading screen, then a mouse cursor on a black screen, then ju
[03:59] <turova> black screen.  Anyone have any suggestions for how I can get around this?
[04:00] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: You'd be right about the Optimus. Have you tried Bumblebee? (No. Seriously.)
[04:01] <turova> I can't get the installer to boot… I'm using bumblebee on my 12.04 instal
[04:01] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:01] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: but I'm trying to get 13.04 installed fresh over it and it won't even get into the installer
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: You might try the alternate installer or the mini.iso
[04:02] <Biomechd> hey guys, is the canon ip2702 compatible with ubuntu 12.10?
[04:02] <SonikkuAmerica> like I did.
[04:02] <Biomechd> or is there anything i can do to get it to print?
[04:03] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: I wanted to use the alternate installer because that's how I installed 12.04, but I don't think it exists for 13.04…
[04:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: The first few Google search results for "canon ip2702 ubuntu" might help.
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> turova: It should! Look for ubuntu-13.04-alternate-$ARCH.iso, where $ARCH is i386 or amd64
[04:04] <SonikkuAmerica> After trying the mini.iso install of 12.04 LTS, I find I can no longer change my security update settings with software-properties-gtk. Is this a result of the mini.iso install?
[04:05] <zgudino> about to update my 12.10 to 13.04
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, Should not be.
[04:05] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:05] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: How, may I ask?
[04:05] <Corey> nastsu: What do the logs say?
[04:06] <turova> SonikkuAmerica: Yea, I really don't think that exists… That was what I looked for before coming here… At least I can't find it anywhere.  You mind giving me a link if you know where it is?
[04:06] <nastsu> the logs arent telling me anything based on what I can see, though I don't know if I was looking in the right places
[04:06] <zgudino> SonikkuAmerica press alt + f2
[04:06] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: Oh wow, you're still up. Yeah, for some reason it's grayed out, the combo box for "When there are security updates:" (This is for 12.04)
[04:06] <zgudino> and type
[04:06] <ranjeet> can someone give some suggestions what sofwares to install in ubuntu 12.10?
[04:06] <zgudino> update-manager -d
[04:07] <zgudino> and then just follow the instruction
[04:07] <zgudino> :)
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: Oh. I don't need your instructions; I was just wondering what method you used.
[04:07] <zgudino> hehe
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: And you don't need the -d
[04:07] <cfhowlett> ranjeet, go to software center.  see what you like.
[04:07] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: the driver says "i386". doesn't that mean it's for a 32-bit system? or will it work just fine on my 64-bit system?
[04:07] <Ed|Laptop> So after 3 hrs the upgrade from 12.10 to unbutu 13.04 finally wrapped up (makes sense now that I know the release was just yesterday).   Problem though is that post-reboot my ssh shell still tells me that a new release is available and to run "do-release-upgrade" however lsb_release -a shows that it is infact 13.04.   Is there something else I need to do?
[04:07] <zgudino> oh cool! thanks @SonikkuAmerica
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, I do remember something like that check the sources list against one generated here.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[04:08] <zgudino> it is right now downloding :)
[04:08] <aliendude5300> quick question -- where is the option to re-enable workspaces in 13.04
[04:08] <nastsu> Corey, I can't seem to find anything related to the application anywhere and the log folder for that application is empty
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Ed|Laptop, run sudo apt-get update  upgrade  dist-upgrade
[04:08] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: It'll be 12.10 when I reboot, but thanks for the link
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:08] <Corey> nastsu: Which application is this?
[04:08] <nastsu> Corey, couchdb
[04:09] <Corey> nastsu: There a lingering pid file in /var/run
[04:09] <Corey> ?
[04:09] <zgudino> I cant quite remember but it should be under system settings @ aliendude5300
[04:09] <zgudino> let me double check
[04:09] <nastsu> Corey, there seems to be one in there right now yes ( I did try to delete it earlier not sure if that was the right step for that)
[04:10] <zgudino> System Settings / Appearance and click the Behavior tab and check Enable workspaces.
[04:10] <SonikkuAmerica> zgudino: Another method you could try (which won't crash because of GTK+) is running [ do-release-upgrade ] in a tty.
[04:10] <Ed|Laptop> cfhowlett: OK thanks, ran this: apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get dist-upgrade -y;        |   Took about 30 seconds to run through without any errors, when I open a new SSH connection to the server though it still says "New release '13.04' available. \ Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it."
[04:10] <aliendude5300> zgudino: found it, thanks! :)
[04:11] <aliendude5300> don't know why they removed that by default
[04:11] <dank101> Ed|Laptop,  reboot it
[04:11] <zgudino> +1 @SonikkuAmerica
[04:11] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: already did once, should I a second time?
[04:11] <dank101> Ed|Laptop,  yes
[04:12] <Ed|Laptop> k thanks will try dank!
[04:13] <aliendude5300> Ed|Laptop, you can try checking your sources.list to make sure that you have all of your repos on raring before doing an upgrade. That might be the problem. I
[04:13] <GeekShed> Does #Ubuntu have a channel on irc.geekshed.net?
[04:13] <dank101> no
[04:13] <aliendude5300> It could also be a glitch, and you might already be on raring
[04:13] <dank101> out
[04:13] <GeekShed> Geekshed is better then Freenode.
[04:13] <NewbHelpmeh> Hey would anyone mind helping me for a second? I have something specific I'm trying to do, and can't find the right instructions on what I want.
[04:13] <dank101> GeekShed, GTFO
[04:13] <aliendude5300> NewbHelpmeh, ask away
[04:14] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: ok rebooted it second time, still shows the same message to "Run 'do-release-upgrade'
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !language
[04:14] <GeekShed> irc://irc.geekshed.net
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | GeekShed
[04:14] <GeekShed> MAC FOREVER!
[04:14] <Ed|Laptop> dank101: running that command shows "No new release found"
[04:14] <nastsu> Corey, it does seem to be empty as well... so
[04:14] <NewbHelpmeh> Well, I'm running Windows 8, and would like to install 13.04. I have an ssd, and 3 hdds. I would like to install to one of the hdds
[04:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac
[04:14] <GeekShed> Ubuntu is a free loaders version of Mac.
[04:14] <Corey> nastsu: Of course the pid file is empty.  rm it. :-)
[04:15] <Kopkins> Ubuntu is a lot better
[04:15] <NewbHelpmeh> I'm not sure how the booting works when I install it that way.
[04:15] <SonikkuAmerica> GeekShed: Mac is a rip-off of FreeBSD, not Linux.
[04:15] <GeekShed> Kopkins the best things in life are sure not free.
[04:15] <aliendude5300> GeekShed is a troll... just ignore him until he gets kicked.
[04:15] <GeekShed> With mac you get a computer that can handle everything and what does ubuntu have *Cricket sounds*
[04:15] <dank101> GeekShed, Go waste your money on 6000$ laptops with the freeBSD clone calling it there oen
[04:15] <NewbHelpmeh> Can you point me in the right direction for this?
[04:16] <Ed|Laptop> GeekShed: We're all very proud of the fact that mommy and daddy spent $3,000 on a facebook portal for you, now move along......
[04:16] <dank101> Someone kick him
[04:16] <GeekShed> Ed|Laptop I don't live with my parents bitch.
[04:16] <auscompgeek> NewbHelpmeh: should be simple enough to dual-boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu, as long as you install Ubuntu after Windows
[04:16] <nastsu> Corey after rming and what not it will just re-make itself when I try to run the process and creates a blank pid again :/ this is puzzling me as to why,,
[04:16] <IdleOne> !language | GeekShed
[04:16] <dank101> GeekShed, Awwww, is the wittle troll mad?
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !ot|GeekShed,
[04:16] <Ed|Laptop> ./ignore geekshed    <-run that without the leading period, problem solved
[04:16] <auscompgeek> NewbHelpmeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:16] <GeekShed> Don't make me get the Ku Klux Klan in here.
[04:17] <aliendude5300> auscompgeek, I disagree. After installing Ubuntu, I can't boot my Windows 8 anymore... :(
[04:17] <Ed|Laptop> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:17] <Kopkins> When I boot 12.04.2  i get disabling irq #17. apparently it's about itterupt requests? so should that be turned on?
[04:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh thanks, IdleOne! Didn't know you were still up.
[04:17] <nugroho> WHA420355
[04:17] <nugroho> SOC155694
[04:17] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <Biomechd> so i'm trying to install my printer driver, and this is what i get. http://www.pasteall.org/41756 i followed what this post said. http://forum.novatech.co.uk/showthread.php?23130-Canon-iP2702-in-64-bit-ubuntu
[04:17] <NewbHelpmeh> I have looked over that auscompgeek, and I'm just not sure how it's going to boot. Is GRUB going to take over? Win8 is on my SSD, so do I need to change the boot order to the hdd?
[04:18] <auscompgeek> oh, doesn't it discuss multi-disk configurations?
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> OK So I've ran apt-get update -y; apt-get upgrade -y; apt-get distro-upgrade -y; on my Ubuntu 12.10 Server & rebooted it (twice).  lsb_release -a shows it is upgraded to version 13.04.  However, still when I re-connect post-reboot it displays: New release '13.04' available.
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> any ideas?
[04:19] <Ed|Laptop> also have run do-release-upgrade multiple times with no change
[04:19] <NewbHelpmeh> It does, wait one.
[04:19] <aliendude5300> speaking of windows 8, does anyone know how to get my windows 8 partition to show up in GRUB so I can boot it? I need it for professional reasons, unfortunately
[04:19] <NewbHelpmeh> aliendude, that's the issue I'm afraid of, haha. I don't want to install and not have 8 show up.
[04:20] <Ed|Laptop> good luck aliendude5300, i can only get it to work if i install linux on top of Windows MBR
[04:20] <aliendude5300> NewbHelpmeh: If you don't have a UEFI system like I do, it seems to work fine
[04:20] <aliendude5300> Unfortunately, i'm screwed on that one haha
[04:20] <NewbHelpmeh> I do have UEFI I believe.
[04:20] <Biomechd> aliendude5300: just go up to your boss and be like "windows sucks ass and we need to switch to linux" lol
[04:20] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:20] <IdleOne> !language | Biomechd
[04:21] <dank101> Biomechd, Sir, you are the smartest person eve
[04:21] <dank101> r
[04:21] <Biomechd> dank101: why thank you lol
[04:21] <kanatsu> Good Night
[04:23] <nastsu> this problem is going to drive me nuts :(
[04:23] <spydon> The terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?
[04:24] <Biomechd> can anyone help me with this? http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:24] <aliendude5300> Sigh... I figure I could probably add Windows 8 to the grub boot menu manually somehow since the os prober can't properly detect it, but I'm not knowledgeable to do so, and I'm afraid of breaking my now working system :(
[04:24] <Simons> Alguem br?
[04:24] <nastsu> Does anyone know why after using kill -9 {pid} the application wont start again even after purging and re-installing?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> aliendude5300, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums, great help there.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> !br|Simon
[04:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !br | Simons
[04:26] <zgudino> so far so good it is installing right now :D
[04:26] <renzom> hi, today i upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and i have a kernel-panic a few seconds after the desktop shows up, even if i try to ctrl+alt+f2 before it still crashes. I tried booting in safe mode but the system freezes few seconds after desktop appears. Any suggestions? thanks in advance
[04:26] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: you could probably reconfigure the Windows 8 bootloader to show Ubuntu somehow
[04:27] <SonikkuAmerica> aliendude5300: Or try using EasyBCD
[04:28] <aliendude5300> hmm... that would probably involve reinstalling Windows 8 to bring back it's bootloader. Such a hassle for something that has traditionally, in the past worked just fine -- Dual booting by installing Windows and then Ubuntu, and using GRUB to choose what to boot
[04:29] <aliendude5300> If I didn't need to get to Windows, I would just wait for os-prober to be patched and run update-grub :/
[04:29] <zgudino> @renzom no way you can boot to recovery?
[04:30] <FearNotMan> wilee-nilee: In case you're interested I finally figured it out, but it sucked way bad.  I posted the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-suspected-grub-kernel-config-file-messed-up
[04:31] <renzom> @zgudino right now i booted to the previous kernel and works just fine, tried several times to boot in safe mode and everytime it freezes
[04:31] <cfhowlett> renzom, bad kernels do happen to good people ...
[04:32] <aliendude5300> renzom, did you do an upgrade to 13.04 or a clean install? doing a clean install might help
[04:32] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Oh, that was good.
[04:33] <renzom> @aliendude5300 it's an upgrade, i'll try a live version next to see what happens
[04:34] <Biomechd> hulloo?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> Biomechd, we see you
[04:34] <renzom> @cfhowlett nice poetry :)
[04:34] <aliendude5300> hmm.. maybe some config files or other settings are left over from the old install that are incompatible or something
[04:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Maybe run a few things in recovery mode
[04:35] <Biomechd> cfhowlett: thou hast sighted me. 'tis unacceptable. lol
[04:36] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader#Windows_Vista_or_7_or_8
[04:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: I wist not that thou wert in the channel... (wist = know)
[04:36] <aliendude5300> auscompgeek: "Note: these methods will work on Legacy firmwares (not UEFI)"
[04:36] <SonikkuAmerica> *knew
[04:37] <Biomechd> anyway, i'm still having problems installing my printer. i tried editing a line in an i386 file, and it gave me this. http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:37] <zgudino> there are several reports about kernel panic after upgrade. it seems you are not the only one @renzom
[04:37] <aliendude5300> I have a UEFI system, unfortunately
[04:37] <NewbHelpmeh> As for the dual boot issue, is the solution here a viable one? Would it work for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686335
[04:37] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: try the section before that
[04:38] <aliendude5300> The problem with that is by "fixing" the MBR using a Windows install disc, I would lose access to Ubuntu. It would boot up straight into Windows
[04:39] <renzom> @zgudino i found a lot of dell notebooks among those who reported, mine is a dell too, might be a pattern?
[04:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Right. Boot Repair from an Ubuntu live image would fix this.
[04:39] <Biomechd> aliendude5300: there's a program you can install from your ubuntu livecd.
[04:39] <SonikkuAmerica> aliendude5300: Look at my last say in the channel...
[04:39] <zgudino> wow...
[04:40] <SonikkuAmerica> I think I overcooked my ramen noodles.
[04:40] <aliendude5300> Biomechd: I'm in Ubuntu right now, and it's working flawlessly. Boot repair only fixes the dual boot issue with non-UEFI (legacy) systems at the moment, and running the repair tool provided by microsoft would break my ability to boot into Ubuntu. I'm a bit screwed here :(
[04:41] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: you make me want ramen noodles now
[04:41] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Master_Boot_Record_and_Boot_Manager might help as well
[04:42] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: hopefully EasyBCD will work on UEFI Windows 8 bootloaders
[04:42]  * SonikkuAmerica tosses Biomechd a package. "Here. Boil a pint of water, add ramen, cook for 3 minutes, stir in seasoning."
[04:42]  * SonikkuAmerica !ot's himself
[04:44] <Biomechd> SonikkuAmerica: got any ideas about this? http://www.pasteall.org/41756
[04:45] <aleks_> hello all! i need help with my wireless network that is disconnecting everytime
[04:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Biomechd: [ sudo apt-get -f install ] (with no packages)
[04:50] <syed_> A Problem while installing a wifi driver
[04:51] <syed_> i am new to ubuntu(linux) enviroment
[04:51] <syed_> Did dual boot on my laptop
[04:51] <syed_> however I am unable to install a wifi driver on ubuntu
[04:51] <aliendude5300> what's the best way to install Java in Ubuntu? There seems to be a PPA available, but I want to keep my installation as clean as possible
[04:51] <syed_> can anyone help ,e
[04:52] <syed_> ?
[04:52] <syed_> How to install Wifi driver on ubuntu?
[04:52] <aliendude5300> syed_ run lspci
[04:53] <syed_> @ali
[04:53] <aliendude5300> then post the output in a pastebin
[04:53] <syed_> already did that
[04:53] <syed_> I have  acopy of it
[04:53] <aliendude5300> what is the make and model of your wireless card?
[04:54] <syed_> bcm4312
[04:54] <syed_> 14e4:4315 (rev 01)
[04:55] <cfhowlett> syed_, easiest way is to plug in a hardwire ethernet, run restricted drivers
[04:55] <syed_> broadcom Corporation BXM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[04:56] <cfhowlett> syed_, if you don't have that, you can install the linux STA driver from broadcom ...
[04:57] <aliendude5300> syed_ plug your system into ethernet and install the b43 driver. This page should help you:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:57] <syed_> I tired
[04:57] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: do you want Oracle Java or OpenJDK?
[04:57] <syed_> I cant plugit in
[04:57] <auscompgeek> aliendude5300: I believe you can install OpenJDK 6 by installing default-jre (or default-jre-headless)
[04:57] <syed_> as I do not have any ethernet in my place
[04:58] <syed_> Att doesnt provide that
[04:58] <przemek_> hello i have problem with my raid controller everything looks very slow when i make time dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k
[04:58] <przemek_> count=256k , sometimes i have  0m3.134s (so this is good ) but when i put this command once again i have real 0m49.591s (very slow)  server is not in production , i have no process in this server
[04:58] <syed_> isnt there a better way?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> syed_, do you have a USB or CD of ubuntu?
[04:58] <syed_> no. I downloaded that.
[04:59] <syed_> iso file.
[05:00] <aliendude5300>  auscompgeek I want Oracle Java (the newest, most secure version possible)
[05:00] <cfhowlett> syed_, good.  what version?
[05:01] <syed_> Its 12.04.2
[05:01] <aliendude5300> you could download the packages you need, put them on a flash drive, and then install them in Ubuntu
[05:01] <syed_> The stable version
[05:02] <aliendude5300> also, newer versions of ubuntu have better hardware support. 13.04 might support your wireless out of the box
[05:02] <spydon> The terminal on ubuntu 13.04 insists on opening bash instead of zsh even though zsh is in chsh, is there any solution for this?
[05:02] <syed_> LTS
[05:02] <cfhowlett> syed_, alright.  make a boot usb and use the "STA no internet access" of this tutorial.  I use this all the time.  3 minutes in the terminal and wifi enabled ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:02] <otend> say that my session doesn't take input properly; that is to say, alt-tab doesn't work, hotkeys don't work, input to all programs is broken, ctrl+alt+F* works
[05:02] <otend> what could I do to regain control and return to the desktop?
[05:03] <syed_> I AM NOOB. HOW
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !usb|syed_,
[05:03] <Biomechd> rapid cranial deterioration?
[05:03] <otend> any reliable things to break from that input refusal?
[05:03] <syed_> You mean I should install it again?
[05:03] <syed_> is that what ur saying?
[05:03] <otend> (also worth noting: the mouse pointer does work, but clicking does not)
[05:04] <relipse>  i'm using putty connecting to a debian server but i'm getting whacko characters like: main.cpp:75: error: âdeckâ was not declared in this scope
[05:04] <cfhowlett> syed_, no.  read the link.
[05:04] <ipotato> I have an installation/upgrade problem going from 12.10 to 13.04. Graphics bug. Screen either reboots to random pixels or repeated patterns.
[05:04] <syed_> ok
[05:05] <Ed|Laptop> has anyone in here installed freenx server on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[05:05] <ipotato> I cannot even boot from a 13.04 usb drive, as the the screen is not useable
[05:06] <spydon> otend: maybe you can restart unity from TTY then?
[05:07] <ipotato> it's an intel ivy bridge chipset
[05:07] <otend> would that involve all programs restarting or just the wm and the like restarting?
[05:08] <otend> and what would be the command to restart?
[05:08] <spydon> otend: it is possible to restart unity and not close the programs, I don't remember how though... I think for example "sudo service gdm restart" will close your programs
[05:09] <spydon> otend: I can try first if you have important work that you might need to save?
[05:09] <otend> don't have much open
[05:11] <otend> oh, unity --replace seems to be it
[05:11] <otend> so close, and yet so far
[05:13] <otend> evidently, that was not the solution
[05:14] <spydon> otend: I think you have to set the screen not to be the TTY if you want to run unity --replace from there
[05:14] <otend> I just ran it from the screen itself
[05:14] <spydon> otend: which one was that?
[05:14] <otend> it sort of broke everything
[05:14] <otend> unity --replace
[05:14] <Biomechd> so i can't seem to access the printer settings in libreoffice after getting my laptop to acknowledge my printer while booted in ubuntu.
[05:15] <spydon> otend: did you try the gdm restart?
[05:15] <otend> i'll be trying it on the next crash
[05:15] <otend> and then looking again, then trying the next option
[05:15] <WormFood> how do I stop the gui? I need to stop x11 to install a program, and I can't figure out which one it is in /etc/init.d/
[05:17] <spydon> WormFood: maybe sudo service gdm stop?
[05:19] <turova> SonikkuAmerica and cfhowlett… I did an md5 check and it seems the torrent downloaded with an error.  I redownloaded and booting with nomodeset seems to work now
[05:19] <turova> thanks
[05:20] <cfhowlett> turova, no problem.  best of luck.  By the way, scrambled ISO's are common on direct download.  consider using the torrents
[05:21] <zgudino> oh great! upgrade is done and boot up w/o problems :D
[05:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Apparently the live image upgrade I did from 12.10 > 13.04 fixed my problems from before... but now I can't graphically log in (lightdm loop).
[05:21] <nugroho> YMH297433
[05:21] <nugroho> WHA800477
[05:21] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:22] <WormFood> spydon, nope, didn't work
[05:22] <spydon> WormFood: ah, maybe sudo service lightdm stop? I'm just guessing...
[05:23] <WormFood> where is a list of what services there are?
[05:23] <ipotato> Is there a way to switch to the terminal when I have graphics issues that make the screen unusable?
[05:24] <WormFood> very good spydon, that did the trick. Thanks a lot.
[05:24] <spydon> WormFood: glad to help
[05:24] <WormFood> I'm a debian user, and I don't know The Ubuntu Way (tm), so I'm looking to do things the way I'm used to
[05:25] <Aww> ipotato, ctrl+alt+f2
[05:25] <spydon> WormFood: Yeah, some stuff doesn't really make sense
[05:26] <Aww> ipotato, then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to the graphical stuff
[05:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Never mind, solved it. 'Night!
[05:26] <lindol> : )
[05:26] <lorddune> Hello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:27] <otend> restarting gdm didn't work
[05:27] <lindol> sorry, i can't resolve your problem,
[05:27] <lindol> i m newbieee ;
[05:27] <lorddune> i discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.
[05:27] <otend> this game hates me for playing it, and takes my system down with it, I suppose
[05:28] <dfrey> I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with my pulseaudio setup, but something seems to keep spawning pulseaudio as soon as I kill it.  How can I stop that?
[05:28] <otend> perhaps changing DE would be useful
[05:28] <lorddune> does anyone know anything about Tiger here? Can I kill this process permanently?
[05:33] <Ari-Yang> hey, I have a question, what do the top 2 settings (send flush and send dump of composite) do? here's a screen shot http://gyazo.com/13559c62f24a52f59ba2586939162cec
[05:34] <lorddune> anyone here know how to shut of a kernal process?
[05:34] <Ari-Yang> (on ubuntu 12.10 and this is enlightenment DE)
[05:34] <nugroho> JPL749250
[05:34] <nugroho> APB800779
[05:35] <Campfire> whats the list channals command
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> /list
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> afaik
[05:35] <Campfire> ty
[05:35] <lorddune> Tiger security and audit process included in the Ubuntu kernel is making my machine run hot and makes the HD run non-stop . it runs deb_checkmd5sum all the time >>> /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:36] <lorddune> can anyone explain why this is happening and suggest a possible solution?
[05:36] <iDrofox> hello, if i download ubuntu 13,04 iso, can i use it to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 without reinstalling all programs ?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> iDrofox, ?  clean install will give you ... a clean, default installation.
[05:39] <iDrofox> cfhowlett: i don't want clean install all i want to know if i can upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 using cd
[05:40] <spydon> iDrofox: "Offline upgrade options via alternate CDs are no longer offered for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server. "
[05:40] <iDrofox> spydon: so it's means i have to do a clean install ?
[05:41] <spydon> iDrofox: you could backup you home-directory and then replace it after the fresh install. You will loose all you applications though.
[05:41] <iDrofox> spydon: ok thanks
[05:43] <frond> trying to figure out how guake configures where it draws on the screen... in 13.04 mine is off-kilter at the top and is too wide for my display...
[05:43] <Campfire> whats the name of that off topic ubuntu
[05:43] <cfhowlett> !ot
[05:43] <Campfire> ty
[05:44] <frond> sorry and thank you
[05:45] <cfhowlett> frond, ?  the offtopic was for Campfire per his request
[05:46] <cfhowlett> frond, I THINK quake has preferences settings controlling display
[05:46] <kingjag> Hey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server
[05:46] <DanaG> Say, why is it that I can't log into my serial console until GDM or lightdm starts?  This is Ubuntu 13.04, but the same was true of 12.10.  If I enter my username, then press any letter, it immediately rejects the password I didn't even get a chance to try to enter!
[05:47] <DanaG> I'm guessing plymouth is trampling all over /dev/ttyS4.
[05:48] <DanaG> Not even logging into the local console and killing both getty and plymouthd, does it start working.
[05:49] <lorddune> Hello, can someone please help me with a problem with Tiger. Specifically, /usr/lib/tiger/systems/Linux/2/deb_checkmd5sums
[05:49] <lorddune> i discovered this process is a security check that runs every night at 1 am, and it is overheating my processor as well as constantly making my hard drive run.
[05:49] <DanaG> I don't know offhand what "Tiger" is.
[05:50] <lorddune> it is a process included in the Ubuntu OS, can someone please glean some information on me
[05:51] <cfhowlett> lorddune, this looks better suited for #ubuntu-server
[05:51] <WormFood> I thought "Tiger" was a brand of beer
[05:51] <lorddune> cfhowlett: why is that?
[05:52] <lorddune> no, Tiger is an auditing / security check process within Linux kernel
[05:52] <DanaG> Silly thing: I edited the gdm css file to remove that hideous noise texture (which made me think something was wrong with my monitor or video drivers!)...
[05:52] <DanaG> ... and now gdm instead draws nothing.  So, you get a hall-of-mirrors effect with the login box.
[05:52] <DanaG> Rather, it draws no background.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> lorddune, ah, ok.  nvrmind
[05:53] <DanaG> ah, going to reboot... upgraded laptop to 13.04.
[05:53] <lorddune> cfhowlett: am I in the correct place to ask then?
[05:53] <lorddune> I've been trying to fix this for months now
[05:53] <guest1> hello there.
[05:54] <guest1> is there anyone can help?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> lorddune, couldn't hurt to ask in #ubuntu-server as they seem to have a whole lot of sysadmins and linux gurus ...
[05:54] <cfhowlett> guest1, ask ...
[05:54] <lorddune> ok, i will wander over there
[05:54] <guest1> how to play .trp files in centos
[05:54] <cfhowlett> guest1, ask in #centos ... this is ubuntu
[05:54] <guest1> i installed vlc. but failed to play.
[05:55] <guest1> i know but same thing i think.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> guest1, centos is not supported here.  sorry
[05:56] <guest1> ok thanks.
[05:57] <Guest22163> hi, when i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 the installer doesn't show me the parition on my /dev/sda
[05:57] <Guest22163> is it normal? :|
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Guest22163, more details needed ... hardware?
[05:57] <Guest22163> hdd is seagate...
[05:58] <Guest22163> put in SATA3 on mainboard
[05:58] <kingjag> Hey all I need some help i am trying to setup a pptp connection on my server so that i can connect through my server and have ALL traffic route through my dedicated server so that it looks like i am browsing the web right from my server i have pptpd installed and i can connect but i cant browse the web via that connection to my server
[05:58] <cfhowlett> kingjag, also ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:58] <usr13> kingjag: route
[05:59] <lorddune> cfhowlett: do you know the irc channel for linux kernel?
[05:59] <Guest22163> i have windows 7 pro installed already.
[05:59] <kingjag> my version of ubuntu is not server i dont think
[05:59] <Guest22163> and wanted to install it next to win7
[05:59] <cfhowlett> lorddune, so i don't not
[05:59] <kingjag> how do i check what version of ubuntu i am running
[05:59] <Guest22163> cfhowlett: what kind of details do you need to help me?
[05:59] <cfhowlett> kingjag, yes, but your query is server directed?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> !details|Guest22163,
[06:00] <cfhowlett> kingjag, lsb_release -a   in  a terminal
[06:00] <usr13> kingjag: host av.com  #Any luck?
[06:00] <kingjag> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[06:00] <kingjag> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[06:00] <kingjag> Release:        12.04
[06:00] <kingjag> Codename:       precise
[06:01] <dfrey> I'm trying to debug an audio problem.  I do aplay -L and there are a number of devices listed.  One such example is "hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3".  Now when I do "cat /dev/urandom | aplay -D hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3", I get the error: "aplay: main:682: audio open error: No such device".  This seems odd to me because aplay itself just gave me the exact device name.  Any idea what is going wrong?
[06:01] <usr13> !paste |kingjag
[06:01] <spydon> cfhowlett: not necessarily, I think what he has problems with is routing the web traffic through his server. The server is probably set up right and he needs direction for how to do it on the desktop? Right kingjag?
[06:01] <lorddune> #kernelnewbies
[06:03] <betrayd> dfrey  for the command use the same format for devices e.g. /dev/urandom,
[06:04] <betrayd> er maybe use tab completion there ?
[06:06] <dfrey> betrayd: I'm pretty sure you are supposed to be able to use the devices listed by aplay -L
[06:07] <sonofzeus> Hi there
[06:07] <sonofzeus> Do you guys know of a server IRC channel?
[06:07] <betrayd> dfrey agreed, but still follow basic syntax rules...
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !server|sonofzeus,
[06:08] <sonofzeus> Anyone?
[06:08] <iceroot> sonofzeus: #ubuntu-server
[06:08] <sonofzeus> #ubuntu-server
[06:08] <iceroot> sonofzeus: /join #ubuntu-server
[06:09] <Guest22163> OK. I have a problem with installing Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. My processor is Celeron G550. After chooing a language there is a window with 'Installation type' title. When i'm trying to click Install Now there is an error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the paritioning menu". There are no partitions visible in that window. When i'm trying to click 'Change' installer crash. when i'm clicking + there is a 'Sorry, Ubunutu 13 has experie
[06:09] <sonofzeus> Yeah thanks
[06:09] <dfrey> betrayd: I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.  What is wrong with the syntax of the command I pasted?
[06:10] <betrayd> dfrey maybe an escape is missing before the colon try \: sometimes single quotes work tht's why tab completion is preferred
[06:15] <aneks> I'm guessing the bug where the lightdm background changes when you change the wallpaper hasn't been fixed in 13.04?
[06:15] <aneks> or doesn't change even*
[06:16] <juniour> Hi in my system ubuntu 12.04LTS is installed but now 13.04 is released, can i go for update or i still use 12.04 ???
[06:17] <iceroot> aneks: look at launchpad on that bug
[06:17] <iceroot> juniour: why you want to update?
[06:17] <iceroot> juniour: of course you can still use 12.04 until 2017
[06:17] <betrayd> juniour: if graphics sound and wifi work, why bother
[06:17] <juniour> iceroot just for latest version, i know 12.04 is Lts(long term support)
[06:18] <iceroot> juniour: i dont see a reason for an upgrade when everything is working fine
[06:18] <iceroot> juniour: never touch a running system
[06:19] <juniour> iceroot yep everything is running fine,graphics wifi,bluetoothe etc
[06:19] <iceroot> juniour: then i would still use 12.04 (btw i am still using 12.04 on my main machine because its running fine)
[06:20] <juniour> iceroot humm....
[06:20] <betrayd> juniour: you can still come to irc us...
[06:21] <aneks> iceroot, the bugs on launchpad are related to the beta versions, it doesn't tell me if the issue has been resolved in the stable version (which obviously didn't happen)
[06:21] <juniour> betrayd wt???
[06:21] <betrayd> you can visit without having problems
[06:21] <betrayd> =)
[06:23] <Twenty-three> hello, my upgrade to 13.04 was aborted towards the end (~60% of the progress bar) and i received a couple of error messages, after rebooting almost everything was working "normal" but i'm concerned about the abprted upgrade, is there a way to verify whether there is anything to be fixed?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, don't upgrade.  clean install.  get the iso via torrents.
[06:26] <Twenty-three> cfhowlett, the upgrade seems to have succeeded as it displays 13.04 and i see some new UI features, i just wonder if there is a way to verify things are ok
[06:26] <Biomechd> so i'm trying to install a new font quick, but it's not showing up in libreoffice. anyone got a fairly quick fix?
[06:27] <nic013> need help with empathy!!
[06:29] <juniour> twenty-three make backup and clean install again :)
[06:29] <nic013> guys, my facebook friends doesnt appear in the contact list in my empathy, i already tried re-installing
[06:30] <Twenty-three> juniour, is there a way to verify whether i have broken packages?
[06:30] <nic013> can anyone help me?
[06:31] <rocketnine> I wrote a tutorial that applies to ubuntu, where can I submit it other than reddit?
[06:31] <Twenty-three> juniour: the OS is behaving well so far, so i am not as keen on trying something that extreme, i only wish to know if i can verify whether i have a problem at all
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, try this: apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Twenty-three, that will put all 13.04 packages into your system
[06:32] <iceroot> Twenty-three: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc
[06:33] <Twenty-three> noted!, i'll go and try this right now, brb
[06:33] <iceroot> Twenty-three: if there are no packages listed, everything is fine and no packages are broken after the upgrade
[06:33] <Twenty-three> thanks iceroot & cfhowlett
[06:34] <cfhowlett> iceroot, nice one.  so an empty list means all packages present and accounted for?
[06:34] <iceroot> cfhowlett: no outpout means everything is fine :)
[06:35]  * cfhowlett Eric Cartman voice: Sweeeeeeeeeeeet!
[06:38] <Guest17248> join /#c
[06:38] <Guest17248> how to switch to channle in irssi
[06:39] <iceroot> Guest17248: /join ##c
[06:39] <DanaG> Another problem I'm having: the gnome-documents tool does not start!
[06:39] <DanaG>       JS LOG: Unable to connect to the tracker database: TypeError: Tracker.SparqlConnection is undefined
[06:39] <Guest17248> iceroot: i ean to say that i have joined 2 channel how to switch between them
[06:40] <iceroot> Guest17248: alt + channel-number   or alt + a to switch to the channel with the latest message, see also #irssi for helping with that client
[06:40] <TakeItEZ> irssi.org/documentation
[06:40] <Guest17248> iceroot: Thanks
[06:40] <Yoshie> ubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[06:45] <corrupt-upgrade-> all my data got wiped on upgrade
[06:46] <cfhowlett> corrupt-upgrade-, you need a dedicated /home to prevent that
[06:46] <SomeRandomDude> Hey guys, there's a bit of a typo on the Ubuntu downloads page, for BitTorrent
[06:46] <SomeRandomDude> You will need to install a-bitTorrent client on your computer in order to enable this download method.
[06:46] <corrupt-upgrade-> cfhowlett, a known bug in the upgrade is ALL YOUR DATA GETS WIPED?
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> what kind of OS upgrade feature is that?
[06:47] <Yoshie> ubuntu 12.10 64bit internet not working, fresh install. motherboard n68-vs3 fx. post fix for 32 bit but not 64bit.    http://tinyurl.com/bocr4lc
[06:47] <SomeRandomDude> 'a-bitTorrent' should read 'a BitTorrent'
[06:47] <nirjhor> hello
[06:47] <Yoshie> hello
[06:47] <nirjhor> I've installed hotot, in raring
[06:47] <dn4> is there a way to boot up off a usb drive for ubuntu; and then have the usb have the entire OS; and just save stuff to that usb?
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> my /home was encrypted with ecryptfs
[06:47] <corrupt-upgrade-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5607277/
[06:47] <nirjhor> but it is not getting me to sign in
[06:48] <iceroot> !usb | dn4
[06:48] <nirjhor> the screen is just blank
[06:48] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: Yes! That's a VERY common feature actually, and it's called a persistience file.
[06:48] <iceroot> dn4: just install the system to the usb stick instead of the hdd
[06:48] <cfhowlett> corrupt-upgrade-, let's not jump to conclusions quite yet.  I stated that a dedicated /home prevents data wipes on installation.  Should also work the the same way during upgrade
[06:48] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: The USB startup disk creator will automatically add one if you use it to prep a USB stick 2GB or larger
[06:48] <nirjhor> there is one error ** (hotot:10999): WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>C' failed!
[06:48] <dn4> is the Persistent more secure; than say a full install on the usb ?
[06:48] <corrupt-upgrade-> MY DATA GOT WIPED ON UPGRADE -- END OF STORY.  I don't think it's more or less secure, but it's the right way to do it. The link iceroot triggered will have all the information you need, but I think you'll find that if you prep a drive with the USB Startup Disk Creator (a part of every Ubuntu install) should do what you need.
[06:50] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: To clarify, the persistience file is the right way.
[06:50] <Yoshie> test, can anyone see my txt
[06:50] <SomeRandomDude> Yoshie: Yes, we can see it just fine.
[06:50] <Yoshie> thank you
[06:50] <dn4> ok cool
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, dont think so since the kernel panic and file system became unreadable 50% into upgrade
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, how could i check?
[06:51] <dn4> since I don't have ubuntu my install method has being using dd
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> hi there
[06:51] <DanaG> gaah, stupid gnome-documents thingy.  DOES NOT FREAKING START.
[06:51] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: What exactly do you mean you don't have it?
[06:51] <yellabs-r2> does any one know where UDS in may 2013 is taking place ?
[06:51] <corrupt-upgrade-> iceroot, i know my disks are fine since windows 8 partion on same raid0 array still works great
[06:51] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, greetings
[06:51] <dn4> SomeRandomDude, I don't have that usb-creator program
[06:51] <SomeRandomDude> yellabs-r2: If I recall correctly, they aren't doing UDS anymore.
[06:52] <SomeRandomDude> dn4: Hm... PenDriveLinux MIGHT have that feature as well, but I don't know...
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> are you sure ?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, virtual UDS unless announced otherwise
[06:52] <yellabs-r2> ah , really virtual , how cool is that
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> thats why i cant find a place .. on the website
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> LOL
[06:53] <cfhowlett> yellabs-r2, http://uds.ubuntu.com/
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> yes i found the website ,thanks , but on location, becuase of virtual attend ..
[06:53] <yellabs-r2> :P
[06:53] <KommaH> Hey everyone, I installed gdm manually on my ubuntu without recommended packages. It seems as though I'm missing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. Without this config file, how am I supposed to adjust autologins?
[06:55] <yellabs-r2> thanks for the info,
[06:55] <yellabs-r2> have a nice day !
[06:55] <DanaG> Say, how do I remove the default lightdm wallpaper?  I want the default to be lack of wallpaper entirely.
[06:56] <dengine> Привет
[06:56] <DanaG> So I get black fading to my user wallpaper, not black fading to lightdm wallpaper then to user wallpaper.
[06:56] <bazhang> !ru | dengine
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !ru|dengine,
[06:56] <cfhowlett> bazhang, just a little slow today?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> :P
[06:56] <bazhang> cfhowlett, I was first, odd that the bot would do it twice though
[06:57] <guest-aGTYEf> Ubuntu 13.04 AMD 64:  I upgraded to 13.04 but my login is faulty but the guest login is OK. Is there any way of fixing my login ?
[06:57] <bazhang> guest-aGTYEf, what do you mean by faulty
[06:57] <cfhowlett> guest-aGTYEf, "faulty"???
[06:59] <guest-aGTYEf> bazhang: It loging to the Desktop with my work files but nothing else. So I cannot access my mail, pictures, music etc.
[06:59] <faizul> hi
[06:59] <ppjdee> sup all
[07:00] <Biomechd> okay, so both of my browsers are messing up and outputting boxes.
[07:00] <Biomechd> i tried running chromium and got an error and a segfault. i can paste it here if you want since i can't get to pasteall or anything.
[07:01] <Magbed> hi
[07:02] <ppjdee> hey
[07:02] <Campfire> anyone know where ubuntu server  support might be
[07:02] <SomeRandomDude> I have a question regarding the downloads: Why is Canonical doing their level best to hide the Torrent downloads? Wouldn't that mean less load on the main download servers? I realize not everyone can figure out a Torrent client, but why not distribute a 50KB executable that torrents the file, a la Blizzard Downloader?
[07:02] <guest-aGTYEf> cfhowlett: the side bar does not show so I cannot access anything.
[07:02] <Magbed> agree random... took me a while to find the damm torrent
[07:03] <SomeRandomDude> Campfire: Going out on a limb here and assuming there isn't a special server support channel (waiting for someone to jump out and correct me) but maybe if you posed your question here, I could help you. I've been fiddling with Server for a long time.
[07:03] <Campfire> :)
[07:04] <Campfire> mind if we talk about torrents
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, #ubuntu-server
[07:04] <SomeRandomDude> Not at all
[07:04] <loof> I am trying to install the edubuntu flavor of ubuntu 13.04 off a USB stick. when I select Install... it starts up X and as far as I can tell is acting like a live CD - not the install I'm used to from prior versions
[07:04] <ppjdee> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=339 ubuntu forums server support