[06:16] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: i opened the pcap in a hex editor and wireshark....started looking for bytes that matched
[06:16] <helo> complete reinstall just to get jack working? :/
[06:17] <helo> sounds like a windows kind of fix heh
[06:17] <mputtr> can you refresh the driver?
[06:17] <mputtr> have it rescan drivers?
[06:17] <hiexpo> !ot | Gaflana
[06:17] <cfhowlett> helo   you could try purging all jack and then reinstalling.
[06:17] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: You said earlier that you did not include the last packet because of its size right? Maybe thats the problem.
[06:17] <Gaflana> Ben64, Do you like my name? Seriously nice? yes?
[06:17] <f10ppiek0k> no i did
[06:18] <bobo37773> oh ok
[06:18] <Ben64> Gaflana: stop.
[06:18] <hiexpo> kick
[06:18] <matt-whi> Ben64, ok I am in /etc/modprobe.d; what command do I type now
[06:18] <Gaflana> Ben64, just i jew...
[06:18] <Gaflana> am
[06:18] <mputtr> *facepalm*
[06:19] <f10ppiek0k> i basically need to strip the ethernet frame from it
[06:19] <Ben64> matt-whi: dunno, i wasn't the one who told you to do anything with that, i just showed you that you have /etc
[06:19] <matt-whi> ben64, haha ok.
[06:19] <matt-whi> How do I run the command "blacklist.conf" from the terminal?
[06:19] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Yeah I'm lost. I guess it is above my skill level
[06:19] <Ben64> matt-whi: its not a command, its a config file
[06:19] <Blue1> matt-whi: you don't run a config file
[06:19] <f10ppiek0k> i have been on this one flag for hours
[06:20] <meskarune> matt-whi: do "locate blacklist.conf" to find it
[06:20] <Gaflana> Ben64, have dinner together? ...
[06:20] <hiexpo> matt-whi, that is not a terminal command
[06:20] <Blue1> meskarune: assumes that locate is installed.
[06:20] <meskarune> ubuntu doesn't come with locate installed....?
[06:20] <Gaflana> please
[06:21] <cfhowlett> meskarune   shows up in mine...
[06:21] <hiexpo> matt-whi, google blackilisting a driver
[06:21] <Blue1> meskarune: mine didnot.
[06:21] <meskarune> weird
[06:21] <Ben64> meskarune: i believe it does
[06:21] <meskarune> I thought it was...
[06:21] <Ben64> or at least mine did
[06:21] <b__> Anyone willing to help?
[06:21] <meskarune> I use it all the time to find paths to files
[06:22] <Gaflana> Ben64, you can help me with it? Seriously please? please answer?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> !ask|b__
[06:22] <Blue1> meskarune: you know about updatedb right?
[06:22] <Gaflana> cfhowlett, and you can help me please (?
[06:23] <Gaflana> :(
[06:23] <hiexpo> who'srunning shop tonight ?
[06:23] <Blue1> no one
[06:23] <Canadian1296> b__: We are (mostly) all willing to help. Ask away
[06:23] <Gaflana> i am...
[06:23] <meskarune> yes Blue1
[06:24] <Gaflana> I bought a rubber ...
[06:24] <Blue1> meskarune: cool -
[06:24] <meskarune> you can't use locate without knowing that
[06:24] <hiexpo> ping pangolin
[06:24] <Blue1> meskarune: nope
[06:24] <Gaflana> I bought new a rubber ... strawberries ...
[06:24] <b__> I have connected a bluetooth devise via blueman, and enabled pulseaudio plugin, in the sound settings I can see the bt input and the volume level changing, but can hear no sound. I checked puvu control, and the alsa mixer, nothing is muted. I ran a sound record, which actually recorded the audio I could not hear
[06:25] <meskarune> I'm really not a fan of pulse audio. lol
[06:25] <meskarune> causes so many problmes
[06:25] <b__> what are my other options...
[06:26] <matt-whi> gordon1234, no the light isn't on constanly, every once in a while it blinks
[06:26] <matt-whi> zykotick9, ok finally got the blacklist to work. It returns: "# replaced by b43 and ssb. blacklist bcm43xx"
[06:26] <hiexpo> thanx
[06:27] <meskarune> b__ I think gnome requires pulse audio, but there is also oss and alsa
[06:28] <matt-whi> What does "blacklist bcm43xx" mean and is this why my bcm4322 won't work for wireless?
[06:28] <nathan28> meskarune: i think we should let the guy who coded pulseaudio also code a replacement for init, it'll be great
[06:28] <nathan28> meskarune: whoops wrong channel
[06:28] <meskarune> lol
[06:28] <nathan28> n/m everyone carry on
[06:28] <hiexpo> matt-whi, blacklisting is stoping a driver fromloading
[06:29] <terminhell> hi all
[06:29] <matt-whi> hiexpo, how do I get it to work? Here is my setup: 1) BCM4322; 2) firmware-b43 installer installed; 3) b43-fwcutter installed; 4)bcmwl-kernel-source removed
[06:30] <cfhowlett> terminhell   greetings
[06:30] <Canadian1296> I have a .deb file. How do I install it?
[06:30] <hiexpo> matt-whi, after you blacklisted what ever you dd you you restart that service ?
[06:30] <terminhell> matt-whi: broadcom should just work, its been included into the kernel since 2.6
[06:30] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:30] <Ben64> Canadian1296: double click
[06:30] <Blue1> Canadian1296: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[06:30] <matt-whi> hiexpo, I didn't blacklist to my knowledge, I just ran a check. This is a fresh 11.10 install
[06:31] <Canadian1296> cfhowlett: Thanks :)
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   no problem
[06:31] <Ben64> Canadian1296: what are you installing? you couldn't get from repo?
[06:31] <hiexpo> thaught you said you blacklisted something
[06:31] <Toggaflana> HI ALL!!! HELP PLEASE!!!
[06:31] <matt-whi> terminhell, I don't know, broadcom has caused me a ton of stress...I had similar issues on a different install of 11.10 (different machine) ... but that one solved itself a lot easier
[06:32] <Ben64> !caps | Toggaflana
[06:32] <Toggaflana> Ben64, hi!
[06:32] <nathan28> Toggaflana: ONOZ!
[06:32] <Canadian1296> Ben64: Virtualbox
[06:32] <hiexpo> Toggaflana, ask
[06:32] <matt-whi> hiexpo, Something is blackisted, can't figure out how to get my wireless driver to work and I think that's the problem
[06:32] <Toggaflana> onoz?
[06:32] <nathan28> Toggaflana: what's the matter?
[06:32] <terminhell> matt-whi: is there a wifi button/switch?  I'm going to log out and take a break...I'm pretty sure this is a blacklist issue but will try it again in the morning. Really appreciate all of your help for the community. Thanks again
[06:38] <cfhowlett> matt-whi   good luck.  sounds like you're very close...
[06:38] <terminhell> indeed
[06:38] <terminhell> dhcpd is a daemon btw
[06:38] <terminhell> or, module actually. used for...dhcp
[06:39] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: when you try to install ubuntu it will say if its wrong architecture or not
[06:40] <Canadian1296> Okay, I have 32 bit desktop installed right now. Can I install 64 bit in virtualbox (if my computer is capable)?
[06:40] <meskarune> actually ifconfig doesn't work perfectly with newer kernels, so its recomended that people switch to ip2route
[06:40] <meskarune> no canadian1296
[06:40] <Canadian1296> So I need 32?
[06:41] <meskarune> you need to have 64 installed to run 64 bit software
[06:41] <nathan28> terminhell: iproute2
[06:41] <nathan28> ifconfig is largely unmaintained, anyway, n/m
[06:41] <terminhell> nathan28: ?
[06:41] <terminhell> ok
[06:41] <Canadian1296> meskarune: I have 32, and 32 virtualbox. Could I run a 64 bit os in the 32 bit virtualbox?
[06:41] <meskarune> NO
[06:41] <meskarune> you can only run 32 bit
[06:42] <Canadian1296> meskarune lotuspsychje urfr332gO: Thanks
[06:42] <terminhell> im sure there's ways of tricking a VM to running a 64bit on a 32 hardware, but i wouldnt try it.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: to speed up your 32-bit you could consider an ssd 6g drive
[06:43] <Canadian1296> lotuspsychje: I'm going to install 64 bit OS.
[06:44] <alnr> i trashed my /etc/apt/sources.list. how can I know safely what to put back. fwiw, /proc/version  says (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) and /etc/debian_version says sid/wheezy
[06:44] <bazhang> alnr, #debian
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Canadian1296: like everyone says here only possible 64bit Os to a 64BIT CPU+MOBO
[06:44] <nathan28> lotuspsychje: not true
[06:45] <alnr> bazhang: thanks. started there but then maybe though this was ubuntu due to that /proc/version
[06:45] <urfr332gO> alnr, works nicely http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[06:45] <nathan28> 32-bit will install to a 64-bit chip/board
[06:45] <Canadian1296> I'm going to see if it is 64 bit capable
[06:45] <nathan28> depends on the OEM's level of crankiness when they wrote the BIOS whether things work that way tho
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> nathan28: he wants the reverse...64 to 32bit
[06:45] <Ben64> Canadian1296: what model cpu?
[06:46] <urfr332gO> alnr, ubuntu though
[06:46] <alnr> urfr332gO: thanks, that looks great. jut now i'm not even sure, yes, what urf said
[06:46] <nathan28> Canadian1296: grep flags /proc/cpuinfo
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> nathan28: if i want to install 32bit ubuntu on my amd64 it refuses too..
[06:46] <nathan28> lotuspsychje: like i said, depends on the BIOS implementation
[06:47] <nathan28> ubuntu's installer may also prevent it, don't know
[06:47] <Canadian1296> Ben64: How do I find out?
[06:47] <alnr> why would /proc/version be referriing to ubuntu like that on a debian system i'm wondering
[06:47] <Canadian1296> Ben64: Like I just got it today from a family member.
[06:48] <urfr332gO> Canadian1296, is it a regular computer, loo it up on the web for info probably.
[06:49] <urfr332gO> look
[06:50] <urfr332gO> alnr, if your running debian I would s\ask there channel. :)
[06:50] <alnr> urfr332gO: dont think i'm going to get much sympathy anywhere :)
[06:51] <GhostWolf> hi all, i have an issue, recently my wireless mouse stops using the right and left mouse buttons i haven't done anything and my mouse is fully charged. can anyone help?
[06:51] <amdorra> ok, after i installed gvim it's not showing in the dash home, i can only open it from the terminal does anyone know why?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   1: they do wear out 2. is this on blue tooth?  see #1
[06:52] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   #3 batteries?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> amdorra: some programs are just terminal based and not gui
[06:53] <amdorra> gvum stands for Guivim
[06:53] <amdorra> and i was using it before it worked just fine
[06:53] <Plagiat_xD> Who can give a free shell?
[06:54] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, no its not bluetooth, and no its not a battery type wireless, its one that uses a charge stand, the mouse i have is a logitech mx laser 1000 its abit old mouse but haven't had it died on me at all but its just recently the mouse buttons stop working and i believe its only stopped on ubuntu, i can't right click to save an image or even left click the mouse button
[06:54] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   if you're dual booting, you should function check it in the other OS.
[06:54] <chico> hi all... was wondering if anyone can help me out here..
[06:55] <cfhowlett> chico   ask away...
[06:55] <Plagiat_xD> Who can give a free shell?
[06:55] <sahil_> can we share thoughts about unity design here?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Plagiat_xD   explain
[06:55] <nathan28> Plagiat_xD: like at the beach?
[06:55] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, well i do dual boot, but each os is on a different hard drive, i believe i did check it when i was last on windows, but i don't remember, i can get back to you on that
[06:55] <cfhowlett> sahil_   better to do so in @ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <nathan28> or do you mean like Bash?
[06:55] <sahil_> thnx...
[06:56] <Canadian1296> It's 64 bit compatable. I'm installing ubuntu desktop 64 bit now :)
[06:56] <Plagiat_xD> » nathan28 » How do you know how on the beach?
[06:56] <chico> i had an secondary hdd icon on my xubuntu desktop. however, after i edited the /etc/fstab file its automatically mounted on boot up, but i don't see the drive on my desktop anymore.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   just replaced by (cheap) HP bluetooth mouse.  Silently failed.  Replaced for $19.99 at Staples + batteries
[06:56] <Plagiat_xD> » cfhowlett » What's to explain?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> chico: you could try pysdm
[06:56] <head_victim> alnr: Maybe try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ but I would suggest not selecting any third party ones for now at least.
[06:56] <tomvolek> i know this is an ubunut room, but does anybody knows how i can do scp from a windows box inot an ubuntu ?
[06:56] <chico> i know where the drive is mounted to, but i'd like to have it on my desktop
[06:57] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD: get a free shell from http://sdf.org/
[06:57] <Canadian1296> tomvolek: Install the ssh server on the Ubuntu box
[06:57] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, well as i said this mouse isn't a bluetooth mouse and i don't have a money to replace it, it works fine just recently like few days ago i noticed the mouse buttons wasn't working when i was in rhythmbox and couldn't right click ont he songs to remove them from the playlist
[06:58] <sahil_> hi...how to change the power  icon?
[06:58] <Plagiat_xD> » meskarune » What is the point where you press to get an account?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> chico: might be somewhere in gconf-editor enable volumes visible on desktop
[06:58] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   understood.  perhaps a simple, gentle cleaning?  Other than that, I've no idea.
[06:58] <sahil_> i want to change the power icon on the panal...how to do that.m using elementary theme
[06:58] <zilly> What's the command to install the xorg import util?
[06:58] <alnr> head_victim: i'm pretty scared what will happen to this sys on apt-get update; not even knowing if its deb or ub. i dont know how it got this way. i'm hoping i can look at packages folder and sort it out
[06:58] <zilly> To import the display?
[06:59] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, i have no clue either lol never experienced this problem. and i love this mouse cause it has extra buttons
[06:59] <chico> lotuspsychje, gconf-editor?
[06:59] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD all you have to do to get an account is ssh in and sign up. ><
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info gconf-editor | chico
[07:00] <GhostWolf> anyways i will brb cfhowlett im gonna log off and restart under windows and see if it works there
[07:00] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   good luck
[07:00] <GhostWolf> thanks cfhowlett
[07:01] <Plagiat_xD> » meskarune » You can write here?
[07:01] <alnr> head_victim: i think i musta converted it to ub from deb,at some point
[07:01] <chico> i dont know much about that
[07:01] <meskarune> Plagiat_xD: read the website, it will tell you everything you need know ><
[07:02] <raptor67782> hello. how to unzip and force overwrite please?
[07:02] <chico> lotuspsychje, you want me to install this app.. i haven';t a clue how to use this.
[07:02] <chico> i'll try.
[07:04]  * ThomasBoxley is away: never getting rid of this away message
[07:05] <head_victim> alnr: it's Ubuntu, my /etc/debian_version also has debian release names there.
[07:06] <chico> i still need help guys.. anyway of showing a hdd icon shortcut on my desktop?
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> chico: install gconf-editor
[07:08] <alnr> thank head_victim
[07:08] <chico> its installed
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> chico: ok now try gconf-editor from terminal and look in apps/nautilus/
[07:09] <chico> okay
[07:09] <dRounse> whats the difference between ethernet and patch cable ethernet?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> chico: is there desktop too?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> chico: apps/nautilus/desktop
[07:10] <chico> i dont see nautilus
[07:11] <chico> i do have desktop
[07:11] <terminhell> "file manager"
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> chico:try desktop: check volumes visible
[07:11] <GhostWolf> hey cfhowlett well it seems the restart worked, it works in windows and now i checked and works again
[07:11] <cfhowlett> GhostWolf   works again in ubuntu?
[07:12] <GhostWolf> cfhowlett, yep. maybe something just needed to be rebooted
[07:12] <chico> don't have it lotuspsychje
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> chico: strange, maybe its changed in ocelot
[07:13] <chico> should i install nautilus?
[07:13] <dRounse> ! | patch cable
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> chico: no nautilus is already default
[07:13] <chico> i have xubuntu
[07:13] <nathan28> chico: you have thunar
[07:13] <chico> yep
[07:13] <nathan28> you can install nautilus w/ apt or synaptic pkg mgr
[07:14] <nathan28> may pull in all of GNOME tho
[07:14] <terminhell> why not thunar?
[07:15] <meskarune> I like ranger. its an awesome file manager
[07:17] <chico> lotuspsychje, anything? what should i do?
[07:18] <terminhell> chico: what DM are you using?
[07:19] <chico> terminhell, ? D
[07:19] <chico> DM?
[07:19] <terminhell> gnome, kde, etc
[07:19] <kamelot314> desktop manager
[07:19] <cfhowlett> terminhell   he's got xubuntu so xfce...
[07:19] <chico> xfce xubuntu
[07:20] <chico> i'd like to have my hdd icon back, just lost it after i edited the fstab. i have the current Filesystem icon still there.. i'd like to have my secondary hdd there aswell
[07:20] <elise001> The screen of my Compaq notebook goes strange. I have to unplug the computer, take out the battery, and reboot. Ctrl alt delete does not work. That is why I unplug and take out battery.
[07:20] <terminhell> chico:  http://wiki.xfce.org/faq
[07:21] <cfhowlett> elise001   "goes strange" means what?
[07:21] <chico> ?
[07:22] <elise001> Something is tiled across the screen. Hard for me to explain.
[07:22] <terminhell> chico: under the Desktop Manager section is a part about icons.
[07:22] <cfhowlett> elise001   screenshot and paste...
[07:22] <NAiL> I've got an annoying raid issue. I've got a raid5 (with BOOT_DEGRADED) set that refuses to mount on boot. I end up in initramfs, where I do "madm --stop /dev/md0 && mdadm --assemble --scan". That works. How can I fix so that ubuntu actually boots without manual intervention?
[07:23] <terminhell> NAiL: add it to your kernel from grub maybe?
[07:23] <terminhell> or in your xinit
[07:23] <NAiL> add what in grub?
[07:24] <axisys> how do I enable ethernet over usb?
[07:24] <NAiL> This is not a rootfs btw, it's a storage fs that isn't needed for boot.
[07:24] <terminhell> NAiL: OH, add those commands to "startup"
[07:25] <elise001> Take a screenshot with my cel phone?
[07:25] <terminhell> elise001: however you can show us
[07:25] <cfhowlett> elise001   Accessories should have a "screenshot" program but cell phone if you must
[07:26] <Ben64> it might not be something screenshottable
[07:26] <Canadian1296> When you encrypt your home folder it suggests you write down a decryption passphrase. I'm just wondering, but if I ever forget my user password, how could I decrypt my home folder with it?
[07:26] <NAiL> terminhell: Shouldn't the initramfs be able to assemble the raid on its own? ...
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Canadian1296   with GREAT difficulty and much effort --- maybe
[07:26] <cfhowlett> elise001    can you boot and login?
[07:27] <Canadian1296> So then what's the point of that passphrase if you cant use it to decrypt the home folder?
[07:27] <terminhell> encryption passwords are different
[07:27] <terminhell> NAiL: perhaps. but it sounds like something has gone wrong
[07:29] <cfhowlett> well, gotta go - Starbucks is closing.  IN case anyone is interested, the next  UbuntuStudio meeting will be on IRC @ 1700 London time...
[07:29] <terminhell> NAiL: see if this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/RAID
[07:31] <ebidewi> #jakarta
[07:38] <g112wdh> which package manager are you using ? aptitude or apt-get ?
[07:38] <chachin> anyone who could be cool and get openssl on my ubuntu vps :s
[07:38] <terminhell> they both use dpkg
[07:39]  * uKi` brb mandi
[07:40] <terminhell> chachin: do you have physical access to the vpn or...?
[07:41] <chachin> yeah full root
[07:41] <chachin> OH its libssl for znc
[07:41] <terminhell> are you not able to run apt-get install openssl?
[07:42] <chachin> woo
[07:42] <chachin>  igot it
[07:42] <terminhell> ;)
[07:42] <chachin> it was: apt-get instal libssl-dev
[07:42] <terminhell> cool beans
[07:42] <chico> this is messed up
[07:42] <chico> didn't know it would be so hard to place a shortcut on the desktop
[07:43] <terminhell> what is
[07:43] <Ludlow> anyone using xchat for windows?
[07:43] <bazhang> Ludlow, #xchat
[07:43] <Ludlow> thanks
[07:44] <g112wdh> I don't know why I cannot connect freenode using xchat for windows
[07:44] <g112wdh> so I use erc for emacs
[07:44] <terminhell> i like irssi
[07:44] <bazhang> g112wdh, try #freenode or ##windows
[07:45] <g112wdh> thank you
[07:46] <dRounse> if i use an ethernet wallplate will i lose power or is it the same as plugging it directly into the device
[07:46] <terminhell> dRounse: uh...what?
[07:48] <Canadian1296> Night everyone
[07:49] <dRounse> if i decide to put an htpc on the other side of the room, connected to my server thru my switch with gbit, if i use a wallplate which would consist of three ethernet cables in total slow down my conection more than if i used one etheert cable
[07:49] <terminhell> no idea
[07:50] <dRounse> oh ok
[07:50] <terminhell> i doubt it
[07:50] <terminhell> if your using true gigabit connections
[07:50] <terminhell> unless your going  to be running huge bandwidth heavy things
[07:51] <dRounse> well im thinking of gettin cat6 and its only for movies and media
[07:52] <terminhell> Oh, hmm, it shouldnt be much of an issue
[07:52] <terminhell> unless your cables are running close too or more than 100feet
[07:53] <dRounse> ok im thinking ill just go with one long cable, cat6 is getting cheap, and no itll be 25-50ft of cable
[07:53] <Ben64> can use cat5
[07:53] <dRounse> Ben64 i can, i kinda wanna try cat6 and be adventurous
[07:54] <eggzeck> dRounse: Keep in mind cat6 doesn't determine everything.
[07:54] <terminhell> and use ipv6 :p
[07:55] <dRounse> eggzeck: i know but everything im using supports gbit so why not try cat6
[07:55] <Ben64> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10208&cs_id=1020812&p_id=143&seq=1&format=2
[07:55] <Ben64> $6.11 for 50'
[07:55] <dRounse> terminhell, its all on my lan
[07:55] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Did you figure it out?
[07:55] <f10ppiek0k> bobo37773: no i am trying something crazy now
[07:55] <dRounse> Ben64 thats cheap
[07:55] <eggzeck> dRounse: No reason not to try cat6 :-)
[07:55] <Ben64> cat6 is a waste of money
[07:55] <bobo37773> f10ppiek0k: Bummer. Good luck
[07:56] <dRounse> but 50 ft for 6 bucks isnt bad
[07:56] <NAiL> Ok, I somehow managed to fix my raid5-issue. Now to my second problem. Ubuntu refuses to boot when I do a reboot. I have to power off and on the machine to boot. I've got the same issue on two completely different (hardware-wise) PCs
[07:56] <Ben64> thats where i get all my cable
[07:56] <terminhell> NAiL: is the raid networked?
[07:56] <eggzeck> dRounse: But as Ben64 says they're more expensive and you WON'T notice much of a difference at all (not a significant one at least)
[07:56] <NAiL> terminhell: no.
[07:56] <dRounse> Ben64 is it good cable from there?
[07:56] <Ben64> 125MB/s vs 125MB/s
[07:57] <Ben64> dRounse: excellent
[07:57] <dRounse> and i have another question
[07:57] <ankur> hi there?? can any one help me in instllaing the alien package
[07:57] <eggzeck> dRounse: However I would use cat 5e instead of cat5 but cat5 is fine.
[07:57] <ankur> ?
[07:57] <bobo37773> ankur: for installing fedora packages?
[07:57] <terminhell> ankur: no, i stay away from foreign life forms
[07:57] <ankur> no
[07:57] <ankur> on ubunut
[07:57] <bobo37773> ankur: Isnt it in the repos?
[07:58] <ankur> ubuntu 9.10 , i want to install the aliean package
[07:58] <ankur> no
[07:58] <ankur> its not there
[07:58] <dRounse> if i decide to set up a raid0 would buying a dedicated NAS to auto back up be worth it in my homeserver
[07:58] <bobo37773> ankur: the one for installing / converting rpms right?
[07:58] <eggzeck> dRounse: geeze, what kind of operation are you running in your home? lol
[07:58] <auronandace> !9.10 | ankur
[07:58] <ankur> yer bobo, right
[07:58] <DrDnar> dRounse: Depends on how valuable your data are.
[07:59] <bobo37773> oh ok
[08:00] <DrDnar> Is the cost of the NAS (hopefully RAIDed?) and the time you'll spend setting it up worth less than replacing your data?
[08:00] <dRounse> eggzeck DrDnar, well just music and movies and docs but i setup a GoFlex home NAS for my family and say that some people use it to back up raid configs i just didnt know if it was worth it to do that
[08:00] <ankur> yes ubottu, u r right but i dnt have the latest version now
[08:00] <sepomex> hey suppa!
[08:00] <dRounse> the NAS wont be raided, my server will be
[08:00] <NAiL> bugger... the raid problem is back. It tries to assemble the raid with only two devices... wtf?
[08:00] <dRounse> the NAS will auto backup the RAID
[08:00] <sepomex> I am feeling hard
[08:00] <sepomex> what about you suppa_spic
[08:00] <Suppa_Spic> heyo sepomex <3
[08:01] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, ubuntu support issue?
[08:01] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: ummmmh yeah
[08:02] <bobo37773> ankur: Are you sure its not in the repos?
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> I have a problem
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> how do I play call of duty in ubuntu?
[08:02] <dRounse> you dont
[08:02] <bobo37773> ankur: do you have universe and all that enabled?
[08:02] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: what you mean?
[08:02] <DrDnar> dRounse: If your server is already RAIDed (except for RAID 0), it might be overkill. The only advantage of having a second backup through NAS is that you could recover data if you corrupted the RAID.
[08:02] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: probably through wine if at all possible. look into wine
[08:03] <kripz> how do i get a id rather than /dev/sd* of a whole empty disk?
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> I want to play Call of Duty in Ubuntu, I thought it was a very advanced operating system
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> one of my friends recommedned it to me
[08:03] <dRounse> bobo37773 i dont think the newer ones are wine supported
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:03] <ankur> hmm bebo i m new to it, and i m not sure about the universe and all enabled
[08:03] <bobo37773> dRounse: oh I see
[08:03] <Suppa_Spic> help
[08:03] <ankur> can u help me to figure it out
[08:04] <dRounse> DrDnar its not raided i was going to set it up when i get enough mioney to redo it
[08:04] <bobo37773> ankur: go to synaptic I think and look at software sources
[08:04] <ankur> sry Bobo*
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> hello
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> anyone
[08:04] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic which call of duty?
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: the last one, MW3
[08:04] <DrDnar> Ah, well if the server isn't RAID'd, having a backup is always a good idea.
[08:04] <madsj> hi; when is Thunderbird 10.x going into Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:04] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic that def wont play on ubuntu
[08:04] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: but why not!
[08:05] <quazimod1> has anyone else here had problems with designing QML with QtCreator?
[08:05] <Suppa_Spic> :<
[08:05] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: why would you think a windows game should work in gnu linux anyway?
[08:05] <ankur> Bobo, do u mean the software center
[08:05] <ankur> ?
[08:05] <madsj> I haven't touched the aptitude source-file
[08:05] <quazimod1> its very buggy, unresponsive etc
[08:05] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic because you need MW3 support from wine and it isnt supported
[08:05] <bobo37773> ankur: yeah
[08:05] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: Because I thought Ubuntu was advanced enough to play my gaems
[08:05] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Talk to the WINE folks.
[08:05] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Was there anything else?
[08:05] <ankur> no it's not there
[08:05] <ankur> i tried mnany times
[08:05] <dRounse> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:05] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: game support isnt ubuntu or any other distro, just wine or crossover
[08:05] <ankur> even in the ubuntu CD its not there
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: Ubuntu is actually not windows.
[08:06] <b__> How do I modify the method of "monitoring" a specific audio in device?
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: where I can contact the wine folks
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: it is a different operating system
[08:06] <quazimod1> if you don't mind paying you can use crossover
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: yes, but people say 'oh you should use Ubuntu, is better than Windows'
[08:06] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic ubuntu is more advanced than windows, but windows doesnt like ubuntu
[08:06] <eggzeck> Suppa_Spic: Ummm not being able to play a game you like does not mean Ubuntu (or any other OS) is not advanced. Just FYI
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> so I thought I could do anything
[08:06] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: really? who said that?
[08:06] <vuxor> lol
[08:06] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: lol you funny
[08:06] <Suppa_Spic> bobo37773: some of my friends
[08:07] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: stick to windows bud
[08:07] <quazimod1> you'll be happier
[08:07] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic i hope you didnt wipe your computer and install ubuntu
[08:07] <ankur> bobo37773: ?
[08:07]  * quazimod1 wonders how he knows about irc, i smell really clever trollage
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> quazimod1: but I want to play games too, and avoid viruses
[08:07] <quazimod1> anyway
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: ummmmmh
[08:07] <bobo37773> ankur: you cant find software sources?
[08:07] <quazimod1> get an antivirus
[08:07] <eggzeck> I just installed Ubuntu, can I fly now?
[08:07] <Suppa_Spic> I just formatted
[08:08] <quazimod1> *bam* you just made a mistake
[08:08] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic well your SOL then
[08:08] <sahil_> how to upgrade to precise using apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> SOL?
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> what
[08:08] <dRounse> S*** outta luck
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> my SOL?
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> I don't have any SOL
[08:08] <terminhell> *facepalm*
[08:08] <eggzeck> He means SQL
[08:08] <Suppa_Spic> he said my SOL
[08:08] <eggzeck> :P
[08:08] <sahil_> hi...how to upgrade to precise using apt-get dist-upgrade from oneric?
[08:08] <dRounse> i dont mean SQL thats gonna confuse him more
[08:08] <ankur> bobo37773: \no i found it, but the alien package is not there
[08:09] <eggzeck> lol
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> What?
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> guys this is confusing me even more
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> I thought Ubuntu was easier, as my friend told me
[08:09] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, lets move on
[08:09] <Suppa_Spic> he said 'Ubuntu is easy'
[08:09] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: pick between the game you want and the operating system. simple. weigh out the differences.
[08:09] <urfr332gO> sahil_, you can upgrade from the update manager.
[08:09] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic ok heres what to do, go get windows and reinstall it, you cant really play any new games on ubuntu
[08:09] <quazimod1> Suppa_Spic: it is for like 99% of things that arent games
[08:09] <quazimod1> ubuntu and games sucks
[08:09] <Ben64> wine works for some games
[08:09] <kurrata> it is easy, sometimes so easy that it can be barly usuable ;D
[08:09] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, #winehq for wine games, check the appdb
[08:09] <quazimod1> Ben64: puleeeese
[08:09] <terminhell> Dual boot both. Use windows to play your games, use ubuntu for being productive
[08:10] <dfantasyd> ciao
[08:10] <Suppa_Spic> :<
[08:10] <dfantasyd> !list
[08:10] <Ben64> quazimod1: pulee yourself? i play games on wine all the time
[08:10] <bazhang> !appdb | Suppa_Spic
[08:10] <quazimod1> Ben64: you want him to run wine? he cant extract the meaning from SOL :/
[08:10] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, join that channel after checking the appdb.
[08:10] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: But I want to use Ubuntu and learn, why do you say that I should get windows again
[08:10] <dRounse> WINE IS NOT an EMULATOR
[08:10] <ankur> when i run "sudo apt-get install alien"
[08:10] <ankur> sudo apt-get install alien
[08:10] <Ben64> quazimod1: not everyone here knows american slang
[08:10] <ankur> this is what the message shows
[08:10] <quazimod1> Ben64: k
[08:11] <bazhang> lets move on please
[08:11] <kurrata> i have no idea what sol isto, unless you mean sun?
[08:11] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic because unless you wanna give up games its gonna be har, and if you have new hardware you might also run into trouble
[08:11] <ankur> E: Couldnot find package alien
[08:11] <media> I've installed xbmc, and it's idling at 100% CPU. has anybody here had this problem?
[08:11] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: some games just wont work in linux.
[08:11] <sahil_> _urfr332go ...it gives me update...i want to upgrade to precise pangolin
[08:11] <urfr332gO> !pastebin | ankur
[08:11] <bazhang> media, contact the 3rd party repo maintainers
[08:11] <dRounse> terminhell 99.9999999999999% of games dont work
[08:11] <Suppa_Spic> terminhell: but why.......
[08:11] <Suppa_Spic> Why no games in Ubuntu! that's frustrating
[08:11] <ankur> thanks ubotto
[08:12] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, this is not the place to ask.
[08:12] <sahil_> apt-get dist-upgrade from oneric to precise?
[08:12] <vuxor> there are games in Ubuntu
[08:12] <urfr332gO> ankur, sorry I thought you were ready to post a bunch of info. :(
[08:12] <ankur> but im still banging with the same problem
[08:12] <bazhang> sahil_, you dont upgrade with dist-upgrade, not between versions
[08:12] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: I shouldn't ask questions about Ubuntu here?
[08:12] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic there are games for ubuntu, just not new games fresh off the press
[08:12] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: If gaming is your primary use case, this probably isn't the OS for you.
[08:12] <bobo37773> ankur: do you not know what software sources is?
[08:12] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, not windows games, no
[08:12] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic:  because the game company's and windows specific coding....activex...
[08:12] <ankur> np urfr
[08:12] <bobo37773> ankur: like universe source etc..
[08:12] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh
[08:12] <ankur> not exactly
[08:12] <ankur> ya little bit
[08:13] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, please stop repeating.
[08:13] <dRounse> you can virtualize windows
[08:13] <sahil_> umm...ubuntu doesnt supports rolling disto or wat?
[08:13] <bazhang> sahil_, no
[08:13] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: repeting what!?!
[08:13] <ankur> i was just trying to run wifi on ubuntu
[08:13] <kurrata> blame windows for not sharing their api and game companies for using windows only code
[08:13] <bazhang> sahil_, #ubuntu+1 for precise
[08:13] <Suppa_Spic> guys, I'm serious
[08:13] <quazimod1> so, no one knows why QTCREATOR is BUGGY on QML files in 11.10 ?
[08:13] <bobo37773> ankur: like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:13] <ankur> and thats how i stuck on installing alien
[08:14] <bobo37773> ankur: enable universe and do a sudo apt-get update and see if it is there
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> what happened
[08:14] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic you will not be able to play MW3 on ubuntu anytime soon
[08:14] <terminhell> or use aptosid
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> server went down?
[08:14] <media> OK, how about this one:  What's a decent media-center application a la xbmc, available in the ubuntu repos?
[08:14] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Enough of that line of questioning, please.
[08:14] <Ben64> ankur: try explaining your actual problem, you probably don't need alien for what you want to do
[08:14] <bazhang> ankur, what package do you need
[08:14] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: ok I got it, nvm
[08:14] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic i recommend using an xbox instead thats what i do
[08:15] <ankur> Bobo37773 i read that page while googling
[08:15] <dRounse> media you could use boxee
[08:15] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: its mostly because of software architecture differences and philosophies that software like games will render them unusable
[08:15] <ankur> ?
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: I spent 2 grands in my computer to play
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> nvm
[08:15] <Suppa_Spic> let's move on
[08:15] <terminhell> Suppa_Spic: its like asking why doesnt mac play windows only games....
[08:15] <bobo37773> ankur: you see the part that talks about software sources
[08:15] <bazhang> ankur, why would you need alien, for what package
[08:15] <bobo37773> good question
[08:15] <kurrata> i want to know why windows doest play linuxgames ;(
[08:16] <terminhell> -,-
[08:16] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[08:16] <bobo37773> kurrata: hahahahaha
[08:16] <kurrata> i spent 2k on my machine, ;(
[08:16] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic im not trying to drag this on but if you have brand new graphics card and sound card you are going to have problems
[08:16] <bazhang> kurrata, you too
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: I stopped
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> woops
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> sorry
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> I was reading another line
[08:16] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: ok
[08:17] <ankur> then i googled
[08:17] <ankur> bazhang, i was unstalling the basic things like adobe, FF, vlc and when they didnt get installed using apt-get
[08:17] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: problems with what?
[08:17] <ankur> and found that it requires
[08:17] <ankur> alien
[08:17] <FloodBot1> ankur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:17] <ankur> is there any other way to to that
[08:17] <Ben64> ankur: what is your goal though?
[08:17] <bazhang> ankur, you do NOT need alien for those
[08:17] <llutz_> ankur: none of those things need alien
[08:17] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic drivers, especially if they are new because the drivers might not be available
[08:17] <ankur> to run wi-fi
[08:17] <Suppa_Spic> oh ok
[08:17] <bazhang> ankur, none of those
[08:17] <ankur> ok FloofBot will try
[08:18] <bobo37773> ankur: your talking to a bot.
[08:18] <Suppa_Spic> lol
[08:18] <bazhang> ankur, always use the software centre to install packages.
[08:18] <bobo37773> ankur: you need to enable the correct repositories and update
[08:18] <ankur> no, the main motive is to run wi- fi, rest of the things van be delayed
[08:18] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic like the disk that comes with devices contains the drivers but since they arent compatable with linux, you might not be able to use them properly or you will need to use the open cource drivers
[08:19] <bobo37773> ankur: so your wifi card isn't working?
[08:19] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: oh ok, I don't know but after I installed Ubento everything worked fine
[08:19] <ankur> it detects the card realteck corp
[08:19] <bobo37773> ankur: but it doesn't work?
[08:19] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic have you played a game yet? or tried to watch a movie ?
[08:19] <vuxor> is there any gnome program like Kover on KDE?
[08:20] <bazhang> vuxor, what does it do
[08:20] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: yes, in youtube and facebook games
[08:20] <bobo37773> vuxor: what does it do
[08:20] <ankur> yes, it does not show the name of wifi at the top
[08:20] <bobo37773> jinx
[08:20] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic well those arent really graphic heavy
[08:20] <dRounse> but you mighnot have problems
[08:20] <ankur> i have to use Lan , then it works fine
[08:20] <dRounse> but i gotta go
[08:20] <vuxor> it is CD cover printer
[08:20] <bobo37773> ankur: when is the last time you updated your system?
[08:21] <dRounse> vuxor do you want it on KDE or gnome?
[08:21] <ankur> i havn't
[08:21] <Ben64> vuxor: you can use kde applications in gnome
[08:21] <bobo37773> ankur: Is this a new install?
[08:21] <ankur> so i guess this is the main solution
[08:21] <terminhell> ankur:  if you go into your network settings, under wifi, is it listed there? You may have to enable it for "all users"
[08:21] <Suppa_Spic> can somebody explain why I was like kicked out of the channel moments ago?
[08:21] <eggzeck> ankur: I have found that some times I've had that issue. All I did was enter information manually and rebooted then (for some odd reason) it started connection and working properly (reading/seeing other WiFi networks)
[08:21] <ankur> yes, about a week ago
[08:21] <Suppa_Spic> I am new to this IRC thing
[08:21] <ankur> no terminhell its not listed there
[08:21] <vuxor> dRounse: on gnome
[08:22] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, join #ubuntu-ops
[08:22] <bobo37773> ankur: why not use 10.04 or something a little more recent?
[08:22] <Suppa_Spic> bazhang: what is that?
[08:22] <dRounse> vuxor just use Kover, itll work fine
[08:22] <ankur> eggzeck, even i tried that but it didnt worked
[08:22] <bazhang> Suppa_Spic, to discuss your removal from this channel
[08:22] <ankur> how can i update my system
[08:22] <Ben64> ankur: what version of ubuntu?
[08:22] <vuxor> Ben64: i use Kover for now, but I was wandering if there is any gnome solution
[08:22] <terminhell> ankur:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:23] <terminhell> ...or just use the update manager
[08:23] <ankur> Ben64
[08:23] <ankur> i am having 9.10 verison
[08:23] <Ben64> ankur: you need to upgrade
[08:24] <dRounse> vuxor in the software center type in kover maybe other ones will pop up
[08:24] <Ben64> 9.10 stopped being supported in April 2011, i believe
[08:24] <bobo37773> ankur: open a terminal and type this exactly -->      sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade             <-- just like terminhell said
[08:24] <ankur> yes, i did that
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> what's the best editor for Ubuntu
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> ?
[08:24] <Suppa_Spic> like notepad
[08:24] <eggzeck> vi
[08:24] <bobo37773> ankur: should be updating right?
[08:24] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic gedit
[08:24] <dRounse> dont use vi
[08:24] <ankur> few errors are displayed as "404 not found", is it ok with that
[08:24] <bobo37773> Suppa_Spic: vim
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> ummmh
[08:25] <dRounse> eggzeck youre trying to mess him up lol
[08:25] <eggzeck> dRounse: And why not use vi?
[08:25] <Ben64> ankur: no, you need to upgrade ubuntu versions
[08:25] <eggzeck> lol
[08:25] <Suppa_Spic> which one is the best of those 3?
[08:25] <dRounse> eggzeck hes brandnew and wants something like notepad
[08:25] <vuxor> dRounse: just Kover and Kover designer, or smnthng
[08:25] <dRounse> vuxor yea
[08:25] <ankur> you mean download the 11.10 and then again isntall it
[08:25] <dRounse> Kover
[08:25] <terminhell> ankur: is your /home in a seperate partition?
[08:26] <Ben64> ankur: that would be the cleanest way
[08:26] <bobo37773> dRounse: I wish someone would have told me to use vim in the beginning. In my opinoin it is the best. Of course that is subjective
[08:26] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic gedit is your best bet and its already installed
[08:26] <ankur> terminhell: yes
[08:26] <eggzeck> bobo37773: I'm with you, don't worry ;-)
[08:26] <terminhell> bobo37773: i prefer nano.
[08:26] <dRounse> bobo37773 i like it too but not for a beginner
[08:26] <ankur> Ben: okk iwill do that
[08:26] <bobo37773> terminhell: really? well to each their own
[08:26] <dRounse> bobo37773 who wants notepad
[08:26] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue changes aren't being read, what did I goof up?
[08:26] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: oh okay, thanks
[08:26] <ankur> can i install the new version above the current verison
[08:27] <terminhell> ankur: then just install the newest ubuntu, and chose your current /home as your "new" home
[08:27] <bobo37773> dRounse: oh didn't know he said notepad nevermind
[08:27] <vuxor> u mean on Gvim?
[08:27] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic no problem
[08:27] <terminhell> ankur: but you'll have to do the manual install, not the guided
[08:27] <eggzeck> dRounse: Well actually nano would be easier to use than vi (vim) would be
[08:27] <ankur> hmm, okay i can do that.
[08:27] <ankur> thank u guys
[08:27] <dRounse> bobo37773 he install ubuntu thinking he could play the brand new call of duty lets just set him up with the easy stuff
[08:28] <dRounse> actually Suppa_Spic you should use Linux Mint instead of Ubuntu
[08:28] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: Why?
[08:28] <hmw> Is it just me, or did the recent Firefox update bring a lot of bugs? The browser crashed a lot of times while I was developing a JavaScript program, Google suddenly shows a totally empty page except for the search bar, and other minor annoyances.
[08:28] <terminhell> it ships with more codecs out of the box
[08:28] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic more user friendly, its based on ubuntu
[08:28] <terminhell> the non free ones like flash/java
[08:28] <eggzeck> hmw: Not sure, I use chromium
[08:28] <Ben64> dRounse: this is a ubuntu channel, not mint
[08:28] <bobo37773> dRounse: all in all though gedit is a pretty good editor. probably my favorite gui editor. I have not tried sublime yet though. yeah I am half convinced that this person is just messing with us anyways
[08:29] <furien> i hate ubuntu
[08:29] <terminhell> bobo37773:  try leafpad too, pretty quick in a gui
[08:29] <eggzeck> Furai: Why?
[08:29] <dRounse> Ben64 i know im helping someone out that is new, plus mint was a fork of ubuntu
[08:29] <eggzeck> oops wrong name tabbed, he quit.
[08:29] <eggzeck> sorry Furai
[08:29] <yodaboy22> Noob question: can you customize colors in Unity desktop?
[08:29] <yodaboy22> i have ubuntu 11.10
[08:29] <jawshr> Hey folks, just did a new install of 11.10 on my netbook. During install all the netbook hardware worked fine, but now when I boot into it wifi, touchpad and sound no worky. Any suggestions??
[08:30] <terminhell> what kind of colors?
[08:30] <bobo37773> terminhell: I have tried it. Too minimalistic for me. My next one to try is sublime if I try a new one.
[08:30] <dRounse> bobo37773 i like it too lol
[08:30] <Suppa_Spic> OK im gonna try Mint
[08:30] <Suppa_Spic> thanks
[08:30] <Axsuul> when I put a public key in authorized_keys, do I need to have the ssh-rsa part?
[08:30] <yodaboy22> terminhell: I want the customization that GNOME debian offers
[08:30] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Good luck, have fun.
[08:30] <yodaboy22> like, change the colors of the windows
[08:30] <yodaboy22> and the text
[08:30] <yodaboy22> and all that jazz
[08:30] <eggzeck> Oh no, poor kid doesn't know what to do
[08:30] <aBound> yodaboy22, Debian uses an older version of Gnome 2 which eventually will stop development.
[08:30] <terminhell> yodaboy22: install gnome-shell and gnome-tweak-tool
[08:30] <Corey> eggzeck: Keep it friendly, plz. :-)
[08:31] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic in the terminal type in "sudo apt-get install unetbootin -y"
[08:31] <yodaboy22> terminhell: i'll try that otu
[08:31] <bazhang> dRounse, dont recommend MINT here. this is Ubuntu support thanks
[08:31] <eggzeck> Corey: Uhhh, huh? How am I not being friendly?
[08:31] <Suppa_Spic> dRounse: what's that for
[08:31] <terminhell> yodaboy22: gnome-shell is a bit different than Unity though. be warned
[08:31] <Corey> eggzeck: Sorry, interpreted that as snarky sarcasm. :-)
[08:31] <dRounse> Suppa_Spic to install mint
[08:31] <Suppa_Spic> alright~
[08:31] <yodaboy22> terminhell: I'll do my research on it
[08:31] <bazhang> dRounse, please dont
[08:31] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Although #mint is where support for that goes.
[08:31] <dRounse> really guys? im helping someone out
[08:32] <eggzeck> Corey: No worries :-) (I'm not much for sarcasm but I do understand how you misinterpreted that)
[08:32] <Corey> Or not.  Apparently there's not a #mint here.
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: oh ok
[08:32] <bobo37773> yodaboy22: I think the newest ubuntu is introducing those features (to change colors at least). thats what I heard
[08:32] <terminhell> yodaboy22: OR if you really are after serious customization, check out archlinux ;)
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> Corey: What?
[08:32] <Suppa_Spic> no mint?
[08:32] <bazhang> dRounse, its not a supported derivative, so yes.
[08:32] <Corey> Suppa_Spic: Not sure where their support forum is.
[08:32] <bobo37773> terminhell: say what?
[08:32] <Corey> Ah,  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[08:32] <dRounse> bazhang hes brand newhe doesnt know how to use the irc let me explain so he can be on his way
[08:33] <jawshr> Guys could anyone please help with my netbook issue please?
[08:33] <terminhell> bobo37773: overkill i know, but i cant help but shamelessly plug my distro from time to time
[08:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | dRounse Suppa_Spic
[08:33] <dRounse> bazhang i know its not supported
[08:33] <bobo37773> terminhell: I'm just kidding. I will only ever run arch again probably
[08:33] <bazhang> dRounse, then please dont recommend it here, thanks.
[08:33] <jawshr> Everything worked during install (wifi etc) but no hardware is found
[08:34] <dRounse> bazhang he cant even run ubuntu where else am i supposed to recommend
[08:34] <bobo37773> terminhell: we better be quiet though or we will get in trouble. too offtopic
[08:35] <dRounse> bobo37773 youll get yelled at for talking about other distros like me
[08:35] <terminhell> bobo37773: indeed
[08:35] <bobo37773> dRounse: yep. terminhell uhhh huh
[08:36] <dRounse> where is the linux family? obvi ubuntu is racist against other flavors
[08:36] <terminhell> to jawshr's problem with wifi
[08:36] <llutz_> dRounse: ##linux for that
[08:36] <eggzeck> dRounse: That's not racism lol
[08:36] <jawshr> thanks
[08:36] <bobo37773> dRounse: just dont go to #linux cause they hate all distro lovers there
[08:36] <dRounse> eggzeck sure it is :)
[08:36] <jawshr> I think my drivers may be all blacklisted?
[08:37] <terminhell> the live cd ships with more device drivers than the installer gives
[08:37] <eggzeck> dRounse: Oh, I didn't realize Ubuntu was a race (or any other distro) :-)
[08:37] <dRounse> bobo37773 i know lol we should start our own channel
[08:37] <dRounse> eggzeck it is lol see you learn something new everyday
[08:37] <gordon1234> jawshr, can I guess you are using a Dell Broadcomm BCM43xx wifi card? :-)
[08:38] <jawshr> Its onboard an HP mini 110 netbook
[08:38] <eggzeck> I was wondering how long it'll take for someone to notice his nick
[08:38] <terminhell> im using a BCM43xx card....but then again im running kernel 3.2.6....
[08:38] <gordon1234> jawshr, shounds like a big yes then :-)
[08:38] <dRounse> eggzeck i think ubuntu is the crazy white racist southerners
[08:38] <jawshr> right
[08:38] <pangolin> dRounse: excuse me?
[08:39] <terminhell> so broadcom just 'works'
[08:39] <jawshr> can I load them off the install disk or need to connect with ethernet
[08:39] <dRounse> pangolin i mean southerners from america not south africa
[08:39] <terminhell> jawshr: upgrade your system after installing
[08:39] <dRounse> pangolin you missed me getting yelled t for talking about mint
[08:39] <pangolin> dRounse: I know what you meant. I don't understand how you got that impression
[08:39] <pangolin> dRounse: Mint is off topic for #ubuntu.
[08:39] <bobo37773> dRounse: let me know when its up. Ill meet you there
[08:40] <eggzeck> pangolin: Me neither.
[08:40] <terminhell> ill tab to #linux
[08:40] <jawshr> terminhell I MAY have restarted during the update :)
[08:40] <dRounse> pangolin idk i was just being random
[08:40] <pangolin> dRounse: stick to the topic please
[08:40] <terminhell> jawshr:  not good, run a dpkg -f i think?
[08:40] <pangolin> Don't go around implying people are racists
[08:40] <gordon1234> jawshr, have a look here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[08:41] <dRounse> gahhhh its frickin linux people why cant we help someone who is having problems? if you were having ubuntu problems wouldnt you like someone to say " well maybe ubuntu is too hard try x distro"
[08:41] <dRounse> bobo37773 sure thing
[08:41] <gordon1234> jawshr, was it a clean install, or an upgrade you have done?
[08:41] <jawshr> gordon sorry I should have specified that wifi worked on my first startup but doesnt anymore
[08:41] <jawshr> clean install 11.10
[08:42] <terminhell> laptop?
[08:42] <jawshr> yup, hp mini 110
[08:42] <gordon1234> dell mini, wasn't it?
[08:42] <terminhell> wifi button?
[08:42] <gordon1234> ooohh ... HP, sorry
[08:42] <jawshr> no, cant even see a wifi interface anymore
[08:42] <terminhell> Fn+wifi button on keyboard?
[08:42] <eggzeck> dRounse: If anyone thinks Ubuntu is too hard then I DO NOT recommend any other linux distro :-)
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: I just wanted to thank you for your help the other night. Turns out the problem was me not putting in my password right.
[08:43] <jawshr> ill try that
[08:43] <terminhell> evildaemon: Your welcome. what was the problem again? local host not connecting?
[08:43] <varikonniemi> dRounse, well that is kind of a problem isn't it? I have tried asking several times why my systems always boot up with a zombie process. I was told it was not normal. I then went and reinstalled, and same thing happened
[08:43] <jawshr> I have a dual boot setup so I'll have to go back
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: Considering that I've been trying to fix this for like, ever, I felt pretty dumb.
[08:43] <dRounse> eggzeck i know but i think "the distro named after a plant" is easier
[08:43] <evildaemon> terminhell: Wifi wouldn't authenticate.
[08:43] <varikonniemi> then i wnt to look at my 2 other ubuntu computers, and they have exactly same thing, so it seems to be normal...
[08:44] <terminhell> evildaemon: AH, i was close :p i try to be on most nights around this time
[08:44] <evildaemon> terminhell: Well it was a improper caps issue. So the password was right, except not. Very insidious.
[08:44] <terminhell> usually is haha
[08:45] <eggzeck> lol
[08:45] <gordon1234> jawshr, this may help too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805960
[08:45] <jawshr> anyway I am also having driver issues with my touchpad and sound
[08:45] <terminhell> jawshr: thats probably an incorrectly xorg.conf
[08:45] <evildaemon> Make no mistake, I looked over that password at least a couple dozen times.
[08:45] <jawshr> I have tried a rfkill unblock all
[08:46] <dRounse> varikonniemi i really cant help i wish i could
[08:46] <terminhell> evildaemon: ya, sometimes its good to actually hand write things out haha
[08:46] <terminhell> and always enable "Show password"
[08:46] <gordon1234> jawshr, can you do a lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[08:47] <jawshr> what will that do gordon?
[08:47] <gordon1234> jawshr, it will tell you the exact model of the wifi card
[08:47] <dRounse> jawshr gordon will do what gordon wants
[08:47] <jawshr> lol just wondering :)
[08:47] <dRounse> lol
[08:48] <jawshr> alright
[08:48] <meskarune> jawshr; lspci is list pci so it shots pci devices (cards plugged into the mother board)
[08:48] <gordon1234> :-)
[08:48] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue isn't being read, an old /etc/issue keeps appearing for some reason. What did I mess up?
[08:48] <meskarune> jawshr: and grep is file search
[08:48] <gordon1234> jawshr, can you paste the output here?
[08:48] <jawshr> I am actually in my win7 parition ATM
[08:49] <jawshr> I'll log into IRC on another PC and boot back into ubuntu
[08:49] <gordon1234> jawshr, does your wi-fi work ok when you boot in Windows?
[08:49] <gordon1234> LOL ... that may have been a dumb question :-)
[08:50] <jawshr> yes its working fine right now gordon
[08:50] <jawshr> I am thinking something may have happened when I restarted during an update
[08:50] <gordon1234> jawshr, ok. If you can get that lspci output please
[08:50] <eggzeck> gordon1234: Dumb no, weird yes. But I see where you were going with that :-)
[08:50] <jawshr> no probs, just be a couple of minutes
[08:51] <gordon1234> eggzeck, :-)
[08:54] <meet> should i install all the recommended updates?
[08:54] <terminhell> probably
[08:54] <eggzeck> meet: I like to stay up-to-date, but that's entirely up to you.
[08:55] <terminhell> unless your reliant on a specific version of something
[08:55] <aBound> eggzeck, Me too.
[08:55] <meet> is there any chance of problems to occur after all the updates are done. on linux mint after installing the recommneded updates my wifi card was not uninstalled.
[08:55] <terminhell> ...NOT uninstalled. sounds  like a plus
[08:56] <mint> meet not uninstalled?
[08:56] <meet> oops :) uninstalled.
[08:56] <eggzeck> meet: Why would your WiFi card uninstall after an update?
[08:56] <eggzeck> I odn't think I'm following
[08:56] <auronandace> eggzeck: might be a kernel update
[08:56] <meet> i dont know. after updates it was not even been detected! so i am apprehensive about doing  the current update
[08:57] <eggzeck> auronandace: He said it was not uninstalled.
[08:57] <eggzeck> meet: Oh you mean it WAS uninstalled
[08:57] <pnorman> My /boot is 94% full. (81/92 MB). Is there anything I can do to clear up space?
[08:57] <mint> meet try and restart or you have a button for the device try and switch it on it should work fine
[08:57] <terminhell> Hmm, not the first time ive heard of wifi breakage after updating in this room tonight.
[08:57] <meet> ya..sry for that.. i meant to say it was uninstalled.
[08:57] <auronandace> pnorman: uninstall old kernels
[08:57] <pnorman> auronandace: How do I find them?
[08:57] <auronandace> pnorman: via synaptic
[08:58] <jawshr> gordon, everyone. This time I booted into ubuntu and all my hardware is running fine
[08:58] <pnorman> synaptic?
[08:58] <auronandace> pnorman: the package manager
[08:58] <pnorman> you mean apt?
[08:58] <jawshr> Did i need a restart after a rfkill unblock all?
[08:58] <gordon1234> jawshr, glad I sorted it for you ;-)
[08:58] <meet> so should i go ahead with the update or am i better off without it. because i have installed the security updates.
[08:58] <jawshr> heheh thanks heaps for being so helpful
[08:58] <auronandace> !info synaptic | pnorman
[08:59] <pnorman> I don't have a GUI
[08:59] <auronandace> pnorman: then do it via apt
[08:59] <CharminTheMoose> My /etc/issue isn't being read, an old /etc/issue keeps appearing at the login prompt for some reason. What did I mess up?
[08:59] <bilbo_> is there a way to duplicate the dash of the unity interface onto a second monitor so i have it both places?
[09:00] <pnorman> auronandace: How do I find which packages to uninstall?
[09:00] <bilbo_> or is there a program file i can put on the desktop for use on the second monitor?
[09:00] <auronandace> pnorman: i'm not good with apt-get, someone else might know
[09:00] <eggzeck> meet: If you're worried something may break (which is entirely possible but not probable) then just install important/security updates. Or don't update any packages that will mess around with your adapters.
[09:00] <gordon1234> CharminTheMoose, isn't it issue.net?
[09:01] <meet> ok. i have installed the security updates. btw how frequently are the updates released?
[09:01] <bobo37773> pnorman: how could /boot be that full?
[09:01] <bilbo_> sudo apt-get remove {program} i believe
[09:01] <CharminTheMoose> gordon1234, nope, /etc/issue is what I'm having a problem with.
[09:01] <gbear14275> Hello, I'm trying to reconfigure my server and am suffering a bit of OCD for partitioning...
[09:02] <bilbo_> or use synaptic and look in the menus
[09:02] <gbear14275> I have both an SSD and then a hardware RAID array...  Not sure what to put where...
[09:02] <bobo37773> pnorman: old kernels probably
[09:02] <gbear14275> what I'm wondering about is because I have a hardware RAID array... do I need LVM for it?
[09:02] <pnorman> I know how to remove packages with apt, it's finding out which packages I need to remove I'm not sure on
[09:03] <terminhell> gbear14275: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning
[09:03] <terminhell> gbear14275: scroll down to the partitioning scheme section
[09:03] <bobo37773> pnorman: ls /boot
[09:03] <gordon1234> CharminTheMoose, they get updated, but it would normally prompt if you want to keep the modified version. Not sure
[09:04] <pnorman> dpkg -l linux-*server* finds them
[09:04] <kalimojo> hi
[09:04] <bobo37773> kalimojo: hey
[09:05] <bluefrog> pnorman base-files
[09:05] <bluefrog> pnorman dpkg -S /etc/issue
[09:08] <onasis> seems to be a lot of talk in the ubuntu community about what is the preferred way of recording and what DAW to use, anyone got any good points/tips on this please?
[09:08] <bobo37773> onasis: what is a "daw"
[09:08] <onasis> lol! Digital Audio Workstation
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: for recording what?
[09:09] <ylmfos> hi
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: oh audio duh its late
[09:09] <onasis> lol! come on bobo!
[09:09] <chachin> hey how do i get out of "nano" on ubuntu vps :o
[09:09] <bobo37773> onasis: hahaha
[09:09] <ylmfos> hi everybody
[09:09] <pnorman> chachin: control-x
[09:09] <bobo37773> ylmfos: hey
[09:10] <onasis> its early here 09:00am
[09:10] <pnorman> apt-get remove on what dpkg -l reported did it - I just have -16 on /boot now, 30MB used
[09:10] <bobo37773> chachin: "^" means ctrl key
[09:11] <bobo37773> chachin: the rest of the options should be displayed on the bottom
[09:11] <Stava> Will unity get dual/multi screen support eventually?
[09:11] <bobo37773> unity does not support multiple screens? really?
[09:12] <terminhell> and back
[09:12] <samuel> aparrently it is supported in 12.04
[09:12] <bobo37773> terminhell: a lot of name switches there. pretty suspicious..... hahaha
[09:12] <Stava> Depends on how you define support i guess, but the indicators do not work properly with multiple monitors
[09:13] <bobo37773> is there any way to connect to same server / username in seperate terrminal with irssi? I need verticle split
[09:13] <Stava> And the application menu bar does not work as i would have expected, either
[09:14] <terminhell> bobo37773: irssi giving me issues logging back in...lag
[09:15] <bobo37773> terminhell: really? do you do autologin to freenode in your .irssi/config ?
[09:16] <bobo37773> terminhell: auto username all that stuff
[09:16] <terminhell> bobo37773: not yet, dont use irssi often. but i think ill change that now. i get tired of a gui sometimes
[09:16] <bobo37773> terminhell: yeah I feel you big time
[09:18] <chachin> hey can someone be cool and show me how to use nano?
[09:18] <chachin> When you've done that, open up unrealircd.conf with a command such as nano or pico.   << how do i do that
[09:18] <chachin> i wanna use nano
[09:18] <terminhell> man nano
[09:18] <chachin> then?
[09:18] <terminhell> read
[09:18] <bobo37773> chachin: then read
[09:18] <bobo37773> haha
[09:18] <terminhell> XD
[09:19] <eggzeck> chachin: nano is not so hard to use. When you start nano there's shortcuts and information displayed at the bottom
[09:19] <terminhell> but to answer your question, you would just type 'nano unrealircd.conf'
[09:19] <terminhell> the "  ^  " is the ctrl key
[09:20] <bobo37773> chachin: when you load nano all of the options are at the bottom. usually to open a program with another one the default is almost always -->    program /path/to/file
[09:20] <chachin> so it would be: nano /home/chachin/unreal3.2/unrealircd.conf
[09:20] <chachin> :o
[09:20] <bobo37773> chachin: yepper
[09:21] <chachin> there's nothing O.o
[09:21] <eggzeck> chachin: or "nano ~/unreal3.2/unrealircd.conf"
[09:21] <bobo37773> chachin: does the file exist and or did you spell it right and or the right path blahblahblah etc etc
[09:22]  * malkauns_ awaits his first mined 0.1 BTC :P
[09:22] <bobo37773> chachin: try to ls the file to make sure its there
[09:22] <terminhell> i dont know why im in #ubuntu and i dont even use it. Perhaps its where i feel i can give the most help?
[09:22] <chachin> http://i.imgur.com/VO6WA.png
[09:22] <chachin> see
[09:23] <bobo37773> terminhell: yep. exactly. it is more fun for sure
[09:23] <terminhell> *tips hat
[09:23] <chachin> yup its there
[09:24] <eggzeck> I think chachin meant the file is empty
[09:25] <bobo37773> chachin: oh a windows user I see... just kidding. you need to learn a few basics thats all. does the file need to be created or did it already exist? also just so you know all things are case sensitive in gnu
[09:25] <ServerTech> Okay I start Ubuntu 11.10 with live cd on my laptop which has a HDD with bad sectors. Any free program available like DD_rescue to try to recover the data on the HDD before I change it? I can't get to install dd_rescue, could you tell me how to install it? Or any other program?
[09:25] <chachin> DUUUUH
[09:25] <chachin> thank you bobo37773 ;)
[09:25] <chachin> case sensitivity :P
[09:26] <ServerTech> I did download gddrescue directly through firefox, but it just doesn't let me ./configure
[09:26] <bobo37773> chachin: no problem hehe. it was wrong case?
[09:26] <damo22> ServerTech do you want a full recovery of tree structure or just files?
[09:26] <ServerTech> damo22: just files
[09:26] <damo22> ServerTech, one option is foremost
[09:26] <terminhell> ServerTech: why risk it, just get a new hdd
[09:27] <ServerTech> terminhell: I am getting a new one, but I need the files on this one.
[09:27] <terminhell> ServerTech: try knoppix
[09:27] <ServerTech> damo22, help for installing?
[09:27] <damo22> ServerTech, do you have space for a dd clone of the dud drive?
[09:27] <bobo37773> ServerTech: You dont need ddrescue. You can just use dd by itself. It should be on the livecd
[09:27] <ServerTech> damo22, i don
[09:27] <ServerTech> t i don't get you?*
[09:28] <royale1223> ServerTech: can you mount the partitions?
[09:28] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep, i can mount and can see all the files, but trying to copy large files results in input/output errors on various parts
[09:28] <terminhell> dd if="/" of="/path/to/another/storage/device"
[09:28] <damo22> ServerTech, its dangerous to mount a dud drive and read files on a filesystem, but it is safer to clone the drive
[09:28] <damo22> terminhell, thats not a good idea
[09:29] <terminhell> why not
[09:29] <damo22> terminhell, you need the device node of the device
[09:29] <ServerTech> damo22: could you help me through it?
[09:29] <bobo37773> damo22: is that not how to clone a drive? of course I would go with 4M to save myself a couple of years
[09:29] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:29] <royale1223> fortable with dd
[09:30] <damo22> bobo37773, i thought you are supposed to dd if=/dev/sdX
[09:30] <terminhell> damo22: sorry, i didnt mean the actual root partition,
[09:30] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can try partimage if you are not comfortable with dd
[09:30] <sahil_>  how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:30] <ServerTech> also damo22, i need to get the files to an external hdd
[09:30] <thomas__> 1 question - I install 11.10 on my dell hybrid studio, graphics problem fixed but keyboard and mouse do not work in X - any know cheatcodes ?
[09:31] <bobo37773> damo22: oh gotcha. yeah I would probably do per partition your right
[09:31] <terminhell> doesnt spinrite have a tool for attempting to fix things?
[09:31] <ServerTech> royale1223: nothing like that, i just don't know how to use dd
[09:31] <mileon> ServerTech: has you try the partition manager?
[09:31] <damo22> ServerTech where is your massive storage located
[09:31] <mileon> ServerTech: or disk manager
[09:31] <terminhell> thomas__: yes, UP, DOWN, LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT, A, B, SELECT, START
[09:31] <royale1223> ServerTech: then you are better off with partimage, its got a nice cli.
[09:32] <damo22> terminhell, nice
[09:32] <ServerTech> royale1223: could it really create an image of the complete hdd without file loss?
[09:32] <bobo37773> ServerTech: start out by looking at your partitions. --> sudo fdisk -l
[09:32] <sahil_>  how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:32] <damo22> ServerTech see me private message
[09:32] <royale1223> royale1223: depends on the extend of the damage.
[09:33] <bobo37773> terminhell: hahahahaha is that the code or what?!
[09:33] <mileon> bobo37773: i think the gui is better: menu->system->preferences
[09:33] <royale1223> ServerTech: btw please pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l`
[09:33] <bobo37773> mileon: what gui? for listing sda / hda partition scheme?
[09:33] <sahil_> can i hav any one's kind attention? :)
[09:34] <bobo37773> sahil_: whats up buddy?
[09:34] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:34] <royale1223> sahil_: !question
[09:34] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep, hold on
[09:34] <thomas__> terminhell: I'm lost, you mean keystrokes left right? and then A B? what does that mean?
[09:34] <royale1223> !question sahil_
[09:34] <sahil_> how to recover data from external hdd? its showing cyclic redundancy error
[09:34] <Sitho> !list
[09:34] <bobo37773> sahil_: can you not mount it at all?
[09:35] <royale1223> sahil_: what kind of partition in ext. hdd?
[09:35] <sahil_> in lower version of ubuntu,it detects but in oneric,its not detecting atall
[09:35] <sahil_> though gpartted dectects it
[09:35] <sahil_> ntfs
[09:35] <terminhell> thomas__: it was a joke. you need to configure your xorg
[09:36] <terminhell> thomas__: try running X --configure
[09:36] <bobo37773> sahil_: so use version that works as a livecd and back up your data
[09:36] <bobo37773> terminhell: geesh. and I thought nes was world wide hahaha
[09:36] <arunkumar413> hi how to connect to a windows machine from ubuntu
[09:36] <royale1223> paste output of `sudo fdisk -l` and `sudo gparted /dev/sd<wharever>`
[09:36] <mileon> who is the guy with hdd mounting?
[09:37] <mileon> i'm confused and not sure
[09:37] <thomas__> but I cant log into the system as my keyboard and mouse (infrared) do not work
[09:37] <royale1223> thomas__: get a wired keyboard and mouse. no other way.
[09:38] <ServerTech> royale1223, damo22, bobo37773: http://www.pastebin.com/1Nu3yBha
[09:38] <bobo37773> thomas__: you need to switch to a tty or boot into non graphical mode
[09:38] <mileon> !question ServerTech
[09:38] <thomas__> how to boot into non graph mode - the bootloader just starts, how to stop him from starting
[09:38] <bobo37773> edit grub command line while booting and append "3" to grub command. not sure if it works in grub2 but it should
[09:38] <thomas__> ?
[09:39] <thomas__> bobo37773: and once I have done that, what to do next?
[09:39] <mileon> ServerTech: which partition need you
[09:39] <bobo37773> thomas__: should be able to hit e or something to edit grub
[09:39] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - heavily problems with X11 at startup: http://pastebin.com/kq1dsdqE this messages appears several times in dmesg and Xorg tries to come up every second again
[09:39] <mileon> ServerTech: look the size
[09:39] <bobo37773> thomas__: then boot with the 3 at the end
[09:39] <arunkumar413> hi, i have a laptop with ubuntu and a desktop with windows. i want to connect to the windows desktop to view the movies in the desktop. help me
[09:39] <bobo37773> 3 boots into console
[09:40] <mileon> ServerTech: there is no size available
[09:40] <bobo37773> as in cmd prompt
[09:40] <royale1223> ServerTech: disk geometry seems to be intact. Did you try scanning and fixing ntfs errors in windows? ntfs drivers in ubuntu are good but not that good.
[09:40] <ServerTech> mileon: well i need the complete sda drive
[09:40] <danny_> how do i make the update instaler install no authenticated packages and make it ignore that
[09:40] <bobo37773> arunkumar413: are the files all set up to share from the windows side?
[09:41] <mileon> ServerTech: ok, moment i ask google
[09:41] <terminhell> samba+nfs+ntfs packages
[09:41] <arunkumar413> bobo37773: no
[09:41] <thomas__> bobo37773: ok once I booted with the 3 whats next - any idea?
[09:42] <zamba> do i have to think about anything when moving a software raid from one machine to another?
[09:42] <bobo37773> thomas__: yeah you have to login. did you login
[09:42] <zamba> it's a raid-1
[09:42] <ServerTech> royale1223: i can't boot to windows, startup repair doesn't open, it's windows 7 ultimate x64
[09:42] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - heavily problems with X11 at startup: http://pastebin.com/kq1dsdqE this messages appears several times in dmesg and Xorg tries to come up every second again
[09:42] <mileon> ServerTech: ok, make plaease a folder in media. the name must choose
[09:43] <mileon> ServerTech: we try now mount each partition
[09:43] <xuser1> hi
, if you setup your Windows PC to share the folder with the movies, you should be able to open that folder on the Ubuntu PC and play the movies using the UBUNTU Movie Player or equivalent
[09:43] <bobo37773> raven: what the heck is unity greeter? sounds like thats the problem
[09:43] <royale1223> ServerTech: i see, what error do you get when you try windows?
[09:43] <bobo37773> xuser1: hey
[09:44] <mileon> ServerTech: you can create for all windows partitions a folder in media
[09:44] <Ben64> raven: that happened on my 12.04
[09:44] <xuser1> ihow can i upgrade from gnome 3.2.1 to gnome 3.2.2(last gnome version) im using ubuntu gnome shell rtemix 11.10 ?
[09:44] <ServerTech> royale1223: BSOD unmountable_boot.. something
[09:44] <xuser1> any ppa for ubuntu?
[09:44] <ServerTech> partition, probably, royale1223
[09:44] <raven> bobo37773, i just installed xubuntu-desktop to a graphical installation. possible that it depends on the wrong login-manager?
[09:45] <mileon> xuser1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:45] <Ben64> raven: what i did was remove unity-greeter and used lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:45] <bobo37773> raven: yeah thats what I am thinking. can you get to a console?
[09:45] <raven> bobo37773, yes
[09:45] <raven> ill remove it
[09:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: windows 7 is allowing share only with other windows machines
[09:45] <bobo37773> raven: make sure you replace it with something else
[09:45] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 bugreport?
[09:45] <Ben64> raven: remove lightdm-greeter, but then you have another step to do afterwards
[09:46] <Ben64> raven: let me know when you're done removing it
[09:46] <raven> i did
[09:46] <Ben64> ok now.. sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:46] <raven> now lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[09:46] <Ben64> oh, yes, i forgot, install that first
[09:46] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: i cant find the windows machine on my ubuntu
[09:46] <bobo37773> raven: I would not use lightdm yet but thats just me.
[09:47] <Ben64> lightdm is standard now
[09:47] <royale1223> ServerTech: try this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda2"
[09:47] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, is your Windows PC setup for sharing on a Workgroup or a Domain?
[09:48] <bobo37773> Ben64: yeah well standard does not mean 100 percent stable either. At least based on all the things I have heard about it. Maybe they worked out all the bugs. I dont know
[09:48] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 is there already a bug report?
[09:48] <ServerTech> royale1223: hold up
[09:48] <terminhell> anyone know where the default save location for lynx is?
[09:48] <Ben64> raven: it was on 12.04, not sure
[09:48] <spacebug-> terminhell: I would think current dir
[09:48] <Ben64> bobo37773: i mean i'm pretty sure lightdm is used on every install by default 11.10+
[09:48] <raven> Ben64, i am on 11.10 now
[09:48] <royale1223> ServerTech: its worth a try but i can assure you anything. It will take long time and might make the win7 bootable.
[09:49] <Ben64> raven: you install lightdm-gtk-greeter?
[09:49] <royale1223> ServerTech: its worth a try but i can't assure you anything. It will take long time and might make the win7 bootable.
[09:49] <terminhell> spacebug-: ya, me too...
[09:49] <bobo37773> Ben64: that does not mean it is worth using
[09:49] <ServerTech> royale1223: okay, let's see
[09:49] <Ben64> bobo37773: its already in use...
[09:49] <bobo37773> Ben64: ok
[09:49] <raven> Ben64, yes
[09:49] <Ben64> raven:  sudo vim /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[09:49] <ServerTech> okay i don
[09:49] <Ben64> raven: greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter
[09:50] <ServerTech> okay i don't think a long time has passed royale1223 but it says NTFS partition /dev/sda2 was processed successfully
[09:50] <royale1223> ServerTech: did it detect any errors?
[09:51] <ServerTech> no royale1223
[09:51] <ServerTech> should i try it for sda3?
[09:51] <ServerTech> and 4? probably
[09:51] <mileon> ServerTech: 4 can you never choose
[09:52] <raven> Ben64, done - reboot and try?
[09:52] <royale1223> ServerTech: then it probably didn't work. was it unmounted?
[09:52] <mileon> ServerTech: 1-3 5-x
[09:52] <Ben64> raven: yep
[09:52] <ServerTech> royale1223: yep it was
[09:53] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can try, and then try copying the big file.
[09:53] <gil> Hi all
[09:53] <gil> I need some help
[09:53] <bobo37773> gil: Hey!
[09:53] <royale1223> ServerTech: if it fails mount by `sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo ntfs-3g -o force,rw /dev/<device name> /media/windows`
[09:54] <playit> hey i have ubuntu 11.10 with gnome-shell ( gnome 3.2 ) and im looking to use remote desktop
[09:54] <ServerTech> royale1223:
[09:54] <royale1223> ServerTech: btw i assume that you have ntfs-3g installed.
[09:54] <ServerTech> royale1223: okay.
[09:54] <bobo37773> gil: what's the issue you are having?
[09:54] <playit> i see theres a vinagre for gnome 3.2 .. how do i get this on ubuntu 11.10
[09:54] <playit> or do I already have it
[09:54] <gil> Bobo I was trying to run a update and it said something about restart xscreen saver and xlockmore
[09:55] <bobo37773> gil: okay and?
[09:55] <bobo37773> gil: restart xserver maybe?
[09:55] <raven> Ben64, still no login to vnc possible
[09:55] <gil> I don't know how to restart them and I didn't even have xlockmore installed
[09:55] <Ben64> raven: vnc?
[09:56] <bobo37773> gil: just reboot your computer. that will restart xserver
[09:56] <raven> Ben64, x11vnc
[09:56] <starlon> Where does the money come from to host Ubuntu's updates, et al?
[09:56] <ServerTech> royale1223: hold up, im trying something by damo22 now, and yes it was installed before
[09:56] <Ben64> raven: i know what vnc is... but why aren't you using a monitor
[09:56] <royale1223> ServerTech: you can check by 'dpkg-query -s ntfs-3g'. if its not installed 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g', and repeat all the previous steps.
[09:56] <gil> I did that but I lost everything and had to reinstall
[09:56] <playit> I guess what i dont understand is im trying to share the computer on VNC to my kindle 3 but for some reason x11 is the only thing that showed anything
[09:56] <playit> 'x11vnc' but my gnome 3.2 froze
[09:57] <playit> not sure if it was related or not
[09:57] <bobo37773> gil: What? are you tring to install a certain sofware? or are you installing the os?
[09:57] <raven> Ben64, small network machine
[09:57] <gil> updateing ubuntu
[09:58] <aaron> ds
[09:58] <bobo37773> gil: and when you rebooted you have to all of your updates over?
[09:58] <Ben64> raven: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:58] <Guest41481> vb'
[09:58] <gil> I got xscreensaver and xlockmore uninstalled do you think that well help?
[09:59] <bobo37773> gil: I dont see why it would matter at all unless there were dependency conflicts
[10:00] <bobo37773> gil: so the problem it that you cannot update your system?
[10:00] <gil> I got a screenshot of it
[10:00] <Whiskey> what do you need for package to read rar files?
[10:00] <bobo37773> gil: upload it so we can see
[10:00] <Jordan_U> !rar | Whiskey
[10:00] <bobo37773> Whiskey: the rar package maybe
[10:01] <Stanley00> Hello everyone. I want to install a minimal ubuntu, just include unity and some stuffs. I have installed a commandline system from alternate cd. Then I installed xserver-xorg and unity. Is this the right way? What should I install more? Thanks.
[10:01] <ServerTech> royale1223: trying out dd with damo22's help, it's copying like 3 MB a minute, it'll take ages to copy at that rate
[10:01] <royale1223> !info ntfsprogs
[10:01] <gil> I'm sending it to you bobo37773
[10:02] <royale1223> ServerTech: the problem with that is it will dd out the corrupted data too.
[10:02] <bobo37773> gil: dont send it to me. upload it and drop a link here. it is bedtime for me
[10:02] <gil> ok
[10:02] <damo22> royale1223, what do you mean?
[10:03] <gil> http://imagebin.org/199641 this is my problum
[10:03] <damo22> royale1223, we put the noerror and notrunc conv options for dd
[10:03] <damo22> royale1223, so it will not truncate the output file when it cant read
[10:03] <felicinos> ciao
[10:03] <felicinos> !list
[10:04] <royale1223> damo22: okay, we'll see. but won't there be data loss?
[10:04] <damo22> royale1223, there will be loss when it cant read the physical sectors it will write 0s
[10:04] <Jordan_U> damo22: royale1223: It sounds like what you really want is GNU ddrescue.
[10:04] <monsterripper> mornin'
[10:04] <gil> I need some help here I'm haveing a problum with my OS
[10:04] <royale1223> damo22: so isn't it better to try and see if the partition is fixable?
[10:05] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:05] <royale1223> damo22: before dd ing and erasing and all?
[10:05] <VIPER-II> hiyaz. Anyone in here managed to get SICKBEARD to work on Ubuntu?
[10:05] <felicinos> ciao
[10:05] <damo22> royale1223, we are not erasing the disk!! i am making  a clone of the drive
[10:05] <felicinos> !list
[10:05] <VIPER-II> damo: clone? Drive?    Norton Ghost ftw!!!
[10:05] <bobo37773> gil: oh distrobution upgrade. can't help you there. I only ever do or reccomend clean installs unless using rolling release
[10:05] <damo22> VIPER-II, no, dd ftw
[10:06] <Jordan_U> royale1223: Do you mind giving a quick recap of your original problem and what you're trying to do now?
[10:06] <VIPER-II> hmm okays.
[10:06] <arunkumar413> hi how to connect to windows machine, the files in the windows have been setup for sharing
[10:07] <royale1223> Jordan_U: problem is not for me. Its ServerTech 's proble. He have corrupted ntfs partitions.
[10:07] <juxta> what PATH would /etc/rc.local execute with by default? my commands seem to be being skipped, I'm guessing the path in use is not valid
[10:07] <damo22> Jordan_U, i am helping ServerTech recover some data from his physically damaged disk
[10:08] <mohammadtiti> hi everyone....how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:08] <damo22> Jordan_U, the only difference between using dd and dd_rescue is that it will jump ahead when it cant read some sectors
[10:08] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, so under your Windows PC>Computer>Properties is it set up as a WORKGROUP or a DOMAIN?
[10:09] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: workgroup
[10:10] <Jordan_U> damo22: That may be true of dd_rescue (I don't know much about dd_rescue) but GNU ddrescue is an entirely different (and much better) program which does much more than that. (logging, returning to bad sectors *after a full pass* and trying reads of smaller block sizes, etc).,
[10:10] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, and when you log into your UBUNTU machine in File Manager when you select connect to Netrowk Drives, do you see a Windows Network icon?
[10:10] <gordon1234> *Network
[10:10] <svrnmnd> hey I lost my bottom bar by accident how do I create a pannel that shows my open windows at the bottom of the screen?
[10:11] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: no, there is no icon to connect to network
[10:11] <greenberet> Hi, when i want to setup a bluetooth dun I only see the wizard once and I cannot change  the apn settings after that, i have to remove the device name and then add it as a new device, any workaround for that?
[10:11] <gil> Hi all I'm have a OS problum and I was wondering if someone could help me figure it out
[10:12] <royale1223> !question | gil
[10:12] <bazhang> gil, what version of Ubuntu
[10:12] <svrnmnd> can someone help me restore my bottom pannel?
[10:12] <gil> I'm useing pepperment
[10:12] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: You can install GNU ddrescue (which is better than dd_rescue) from an Ubuntu LiveCD by running "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get install gddrescue" make sure you give at least a quick look at the man page and specify a log file.
[10:12] <bazhang> gil, whats that
[10:13] <greenberet> ??
[10:13] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: Sorry, make that "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gddrescue".
[10:13] <gil> I have a picture of my problum
[10:14] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, when you setup the share on with Windows folder, what is the name of the share?
[10:14] <royale1223> Jordan_U: what if the partition is fixable via ntfsfix or windows utility?
[10:14] <bazhang> gil, is that MINT? or some other derivative
[10:14] <greenberet> Hi, when i want to setup a bluetooth dun I only see the wizard once and I cannot change  the apn settings after that, i have to remove the device name and then add it as a new device, any workaround for that?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> royale1223: Then it's probably not a hardware problem.
[10:14] <gil> http://www.imagebin.org/199641
[10:14] <gil> it's pretty much like ubuntu
[10:14] <royale1223> Jordan_U: so isn't it better to try fixing the partition instead of dd?
[10:15] <bazhang> gil, its not supported here. try the peppermint forums or use alis
[10:15] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: i found the go to network drives from the go menu. but it is asking password to login to the windows machine
[10:15] <bazhang> !alis | gil
[10:15] <greenberet> can somone [maybe anyone] assist?
[10:15] <svrnmnd> can anyone help me restore my bottom launcher pannel?!?!
[10:15] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:15] <royale1223> svrnmnd: what version of ubuntu?
[10:15] <svrnmnd> 10.04
[10:15] <Jordan_U> royale1223: I'm trying to look through the scrollback now to see why dd came up in the first place and why it's thought to be a hardware problem.
[10:16] <ryzzan> just installed ubuntu on two pcs... wasn't i supposed to be able to see them when "browse network"?
[10:16] <gil> ok thank you
[10:16] <royale1223> Jordan_U: its not a hw problem demo22 recommended dd.
[10:16] <royale1223> svrnmnd: hold up
[10:16] <arunkumar413> gordon1234, the pc name is rohitamr-pc
[10:16] <fortytwo_de> hello guys! I'm having trouble with my audio settings. When I set it using the ubuntu applet sound works perfectly, but after a reboot it restores its non-working status. http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:17] <damo22> Jordan_U, it IS a hardware problem, the dmesg is full of i/o errors
[10:17] <mohammadtiti> this problem of mine freaked me out....
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> I'm positive the device I need to use is card 2 device 1 (because when I set it with the gnome applet, that card goes to the first position)
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> however when I try to speaker-test it, I get that error
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> and yes, my user is added to the audio group
[10:17] <fortytwo_de> I'm pretty much lost at this point
[10:17] <gordon1234> arunkumar413 This is good. You should be able to put smb://192.168.xxx.xxx/share_name$ (the ip address of the Windows PC and the share_name you created on it) into the file manager ... enter the user id and passowrd you would use to log into the Windows PC
[10:18] <mohammadtiti> actually i don't know what else should i do?if somebody help me i would be grateful
[10:18] <bazhang> mohammadtiti, with what
[10:18] <fortytwo_de> so, can anybody help?
[10:18] <royale1223> damo22: also please don't encourage private chat because rest of the users can't see what's going on. In this case we didn't know about demsg errors.
[10:18] <ryzzan> just installed ubuntu on two pcs... wasn't i supposed to be able to see them when "browse network"?
[10:18] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: there is password for windows machine
[10:19] <fortytwo_de> can anybody please help me? ^
[10:19] <mohammadtiti> with this bazhang: how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:19] <pnorman> I'm trying to figure out the dependencies of a package in a PPA. How would I do this?
[10:19] <damo22> royale1223, its better this way i dont flood the channel with useless info
[10:19] <royale1223> !repeat | svrnmnd
[10:19] <bazhang> mohammadtiti, windows already installed? you are in the ubuntu live cd now?
[10:19] <royale1223> svrnmnd: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[10:19] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:19] <svrnmnd> what is !repeat | ??
[10:19] <greenberet> need help with bluetooth dialup
[10:20] <greenberet> I need to change my apn how to do that?
[10:20] <royale1223> royale1223: it beats the purpose of the channel. #ubuntu is for asking questions and getting answers.
[10:20] <mohammadtiti> yes i had a preinstalled windows7 HP X64 SP1, and i'm in live cd....
[10:20] <xuser1> how can i install last stable gnome3 version (from ppa)?
[10:20] <greenberet> apn means access point name
[10:20] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, if you go into change the computer name you will see the name of the Workgroup .. the default is WORKGROUP. Leave the password blank when connecting, but it will need your logon name.
[10:20] <bazhang> xuser1, what version of ubuntu are you on now
[10:21] <svrnmnd> ok im also having a display problem. I just plugged VGA from my laptop to my laptop and used monitors to use the larger display...but now when I play my video I only get audio and a black box where vlc is no matter which screen
[10:21] <xuser1> 11.10
[10:21] <bazhang> xuser1, you have gnome3 already, why would you want the ppa
[10:21] <svrnmnd> from my laptop to my plasma*
[10:21] <royale1223> svrnmnd: just don't repeat the question so often. did you try the link.
[10:21] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:21] <svrnmnd> yea roale the question was for a different problem
[10:21] <xuser1> i have gnome 3.2.1 , i wantr last stable version
[10:21] <greenberet> bazhang can you help me with bluetooth dial up networking I want to change my apn [access point name]
[10:22] <svrnmnd> display problem while watching movies on a different display
[10:22] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:22] <royale1223> xuser1: are you talking about gnome3 shell?
[10:23] <xuser1> gnome  3
[10:23] <VIPER-II> what's the command to look at the mainboard's model from within commandline of Linux?
[10:23] <bazhang> VIPER-II, sudo lshw ?
[10:24] <casibaeus> hey, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop but i need to install vpnc to access the internet. I have vpnc as a .deb package and can open it with the software center however the 'install button' is greyed out. Is there any terminal command i should use instead?
[10:24] <greenberet> sudo lshw or dmidecode VIPER-II
[10:24] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:24] <xuser1> is gnome 3.2.1 last stable relase?
[10:24] <bazhang> xuser1, yes
[10:24] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, Good tutorial here http://www.7tutorials.com/how-access-windows-7-shared-folders-ubuntu
[10:25] <greenberet> VIPER-II u need to install dmidecode [sudo apt install dmidecode]
[10:25] <xuser1> ok
[10:25] <bazhang> fortytwo_de, dont repeat every minute. patience please
[10:25] <royale1223> xuser1: ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[10:25] <fortytwo_de> bazhang: sorry :)
[10:25] <bazhang> royale1223, he should not be using a PPA as he is on 11.10 already
[10:25] <greenberet> hey bazhang, can u help me out with bluetooth dun?
[10:27] <royale1223> bazhang: i think that ppa is more updated not sure though.
[10:27] <VIPER-II> greenberet: ok thanks.
[10:27] <mohammadtiti> dude...?
[10:28] <greenberet> you are welcome VIPER-II
[10:28] <VIPER-II> btw how do i check the amount of free space on my HDD?  Graphical or command line?
[10:28] <casibaeus> nvm had to use dkpg
[10:29] <royale1223> bazhang: actually it is contains 3.2.2 for oneric
[10:29] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: http://imagebin.org/199651. this is the structure of the network. help me how to connect
[10:30] <raven> Ben64, bobo37773 still there?
[10:31] <meskarune> VIPER-II you can do df to see what space your disk is using. or install a graphical utility http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerhope.com%2Funix%2Fudf.htm&ei=e89AT_LlHuOA2AW1zo2DCA&usg=AFQjCNH6OZ7IDksLlxDZQCwpS-VNqnF8zA&sig2=p-3KFJrD6sKqM3jQa4E9pA
[10:31] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, and when you press enter, what happens?
[10:32] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it asks for a password
[10:32] <fortytwo_de> can anybody help with my audio configuration problem? http://paste.debian.net/156790/
[10:32] <VIPER-II> hmm ok thanks meskarune
[10:32] <meskarune> VIPER-II: try "df -h /home"
[10:33] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it also says the specified location is not mounted
[10:33] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, you have the computer name in the user name field ... you need your windows user name in there ... when you logon to your windows PC, whatever that user name is, is the one you need in that field
[10:33] <VIPER-II> ah.... i get the idea... :)
[10:36] <Jordan_U> ServerTech: Are you still here? Did you get my message about GNU ddrescue and how to install it?
[10:36] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: for wondows there is no login password
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> VIPER-II  simply type df -h
[10:36] <mohan_> Can we get Ubuntu TV now or have to wait for Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:36] <raven> Ben64, ?
[10:37] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, you may not have a login password, but you will have a user id .... if you co into the control panel on your windows pc and select users, it will tell you in there
[10:37] <iceroot> mohan_: even longer
[10:37] <mohan_> ohh
[10:37] <iceroot> mohan_: its just a concept at the moment
[10:37] <samuel> hello, i wonder if anyone can help me troubleshoot a problem i'm having
[10:37] <mohan_> ohh
[10:37] <mohan_> ic
[10:38] <oCean> !utv | mohan_
[10:38] <mohan_> is it going to be a free service ?
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: see #ubuntu-tv
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: yes
[10:38] <iceroot> mohan_: the software and the service is free
[10:38] <mohan_> maybe they will charge the content
[10:38] <samuel> after running an update on a newly installed system, after the grub menu has gone, it seems to freeze at the ubuntu logo/splash, and this goes for the older kernel also. any idea's on how to figure this one out??
[10:39] <oCean> mohan_: discussion in #ubuntu-tv, not here
[10:39] <iceroot> mohan_: atm they dont have own content
[10:39] <mohan_> alright :)
[10:39] <mohan_> noted
[10:39] <mohan_> thanks
[10:41] <alex-> My phone has an DLNA server to show pictures on the tv n stuff, is it possible that I install some kind of DLNA client on my ubuntu server, which gets the data from my phone automaticly, and puts it dynamicly on a SAMBA share?
[10:41] <fortytwo_de> alex-: samba
[10:42] <fortytwo_de> xbmc¡
[10:42] <fortytwo_de> sorry, xbmc
[10:42] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, out of interest, you may want to double click on the "Windows Network" icon on Ubuntu and see if your Windows file share appears in there
[10:42] <alex-> fortytwo_de: what do you mean?
[10:42] <alex-> I don't want a GUI or something
[10:43] <alex-> I want my server to see if there are any DLNA servers, and then the server gets the data from it (e.g. copy or just some kind of symlink) and then put it on the SAMBA share so I can view it in my whole network
[10:43] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: it says the specified location is not mounted
[10:43] <thomas__> how to stop bootloader from booting - pressing e does not work!
[10:44] <Jordan_U> thomas__: Hold shift.
[10:44] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, have you found out your Windows user id yet?
[10:44] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: the windows system is setup with a admin password
[10:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: what is that user id, where to find it. is it the name of the pc we have given
[10:45] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: from the screen shot given, what is the name of the computer is rohitamr-pc
[10:46] <alex-> fortytwo_de:  ^
[10:46] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, the user id is your Windows user id ... it is not the name of the computer we need it is your user id ... if you go into the control panel on your windows pc and look in the users icon it will show you all the users
[10:47] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: yes, the user name is rohitamr-pc
[10:48] <arunkumar413> gordon1234: when windows pc was setup for sharing it said it only shares with windows pc
[10:52] <samuel> after running an update on a newly installed system, after the grub menu has gone, it seems to freeze at the ubuntu logo/splash, and this goes for the older kernel also. any idea's on how to figure this one out??
[10:55] <mohammadtiti> is there anybody who can help me with this freaking problem of mine?
[10:56] <mbroeker> samuel, does your machine boot normally in recovery mode?
[10:56] <mohammadtiti> اow can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:57] <mohammadtiti> how can i install ubuntu alongside my windows7 while it doesn't recognize my partitions?i mean ubuntu treat my partitioned hdd as a raw hdd without partition...
[10:57] <theadmin> Will VLC 2.0 get packaged for Oneiric officially? It currently seems to have 1.x
[10:57] <CharminTheMoose> Why is it that despite removing the hooks in /usr/share/initramfs-tools for plymouth and framebuffer and using update-initramfs, I still get a splash screen?
[10:58] <raven> X11 startup problems: http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[10:59] <arunkumar413> gordon1234, i'm able view the drives and folder of the windows pc but gain it is asking for username and password
[10:59] <samuel> mbroeker yes, i can get a terminal from the recovery mode but startx doesnt work
[10:59] <samuel> i think it might be related to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896061
[11:00] <samuel> as i also have an amd graphics card, it sounds like the same problem, i will give it a try!
[11:00] <mbroeker> CharminTheMoose, edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" followed by sudo update-initramfs -ck $(uname -r) && sudo update-grub
[11:00] <samuel> is there any way i can confirm this from the root terminal in recovery mode?
[11:00] <raven> X11 startup problems: http://pastebin.com/iqNMgVht
[11:01] <mbroeker> samuel, enter the recovery mode, enter startx and paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:02] <m_fulder> hey!
[11:02] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, yes, you will need the user name and password from the Windows machine. Not the computer name. Again, you can get this in the Windows Control Panel under the Users icon. Do you have physical access to logon to the Windows PC to do this?
[11:02] <samuel> thank you i will do that asap (waiting for windows to install updates while i research the problem)
[11:02] <zezom> I had a working Ubuntu system until I took out 2 3T drives that I had set up in an LVM and put a different 3TB hard drive in. Now grub does not show. all I get is the monitor telling me that the sync is out of range and when I press ctrl alt delete the system reboot instantly. grub appears to be installed correctly. Is any one familiar with this problem?
[11:02] <CharminTheMoose> mbroeker, well that doesn't answer my question, I'm not looking to disable it via the boot-options. I'm asking why it gets added to the initrd even if I remove the hooks in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks
[11:03] <m_fulder> I want a script running on startup as non-root so I've edited the /etc/rc.local file to startup my script with "su" ... though this script start up several screen-windows and I would like to reach them from the root account is that possible??
[11:03] <bal_> how to install ipmessanger?
[11:03] <mbroeker> CharminTheMoose, have you at least recreated the initramfs with the -ck $(uname -r) option?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> bal_  what is ipmessenger exactly?
[11:04] <CharminTheMoose> mbroeker, Well, I also tacked on the -t command too.
[11:04] <CharminTheMoose> But yes, I have recreated the initramfs
[11:05] <CharminTheMoose> s/command/switch
[11:05] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  it is a messenger wthin local network use in windows and mac
[11:05] <mbroeker> ok: that's strange, CharminTheMoose! it's the magic of ubuntu then...
[11:06] <bal_> once i tryed with wine but not work properly out going message skeeps
[11:06] <CharminTheMoose> Hehe, cheers mbroeker, guess I'll just have to get RTFM then. :D
[11:07] <liam_> is there a way to create an encrypted lvm install on part of the disk instead of the entire thing?
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> bal_  i havent tried it, but maybe this helps http://www.indiastudychannel.com/resources/97532-Install-g-ipmsg-Ubuntu-Linux-easily.aspx
[11:08] <gordon1234> arunkumar413, Once you have a valid user id and password to enter, it should connect ok. If it doesn't then the share on the Windows PC is most likely not been set up correctly .. you may need to change the permissions on the share to allow read/write access. Need to dash... bye and good luck.
[11:08] <thomas__> any thoughts why keyboard (infrared, DELL) is detected when I load Ubuntu 11.10 from USB stick and when I try to start from HD the keyboard is not working?
[11:09] <mbroeker> thomas__, do you have an usb keyboard?
[11:10] <thomas__> no cable (wireless)
[11:10] <thomas__> mbroeker: wireless (DELL)
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> bal_  there's also xipmsg
[11:13] <winnie666> hey! i am looking for a cli program that will allow me to partition and mkfs drives without being prompted for any information, ie prog device linux-raid start 1 end 8
[11:13] <mbroeker> thomas__, and the receiver? built-in or connected via usb?
[11:14] <thomas__> mbroeker: built-in
[11:15] <randomnewb> Is there a way to extract zip files with foreign filenames without  getting garbled filenames?
[11:15] <thomas__> mbroeker: some posts mention to set noacpi pci=noacpi acpi=off, but I cant edit the bootloder after the installation to set these params
[11:16] <mbroeker> thomas__, anyway: if the wireless keyboard gets connected when you boot from "a legacy usb device", the wireless connector seems to be initialized! so i suggest that you have to activate usb legacy support in bios to get ridd ofthis prob
[11:17] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  i down loaded but i can't go to the dirctory  how can i open the folder with cmd . i is in download folder ?
[11:17] <thomas__> mbroeker: good point - Ill try now
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> bal_  look in /usr/bin
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> bal_  forget that, i thought you meant installed
[11:19] <bal_> nop  just downloded
[11:20] <ugc> hello, erveryone.
[11:20] <bal_> MonkeyDust:  i don't know the cmd in ubuntu just learning
[11:20] <ugc> I had installed android in KVM, but it can't connect to the network.
[11:20] <ugc> what is wrong with it?
[11:21] <thomas__> mbroeker: legacy support was enabled already
[11:21] <wonderman> hmm
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> bal_  you can install it from the repos and type f2 to run it
[11:22] <airtonix> swweeeeetttt! 11.10 remove padevchoosers! so awesome... now i can't send audio to other machines....
[11:22] <wonderman> why has the latest updates yet again broke unity settings? ie, i cannot choose the bar to not hide itself from CCSM now
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> bal_  alt-f2*
[11:22] <wonderman> unity bar autohide is the worse thing about ubuntu
[11:23] <samuel> hi thanks for the help guys, it was just a simple case of removing fglrx and reinstalling it, everything is fine now
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> !yay | samuel
[11:24] <ugc> hi, I want to backup my machine, in case one day my machine crushed, which dir should I backup?
[11:24] <wonderman> $HOME
[11:24] <ugc> and / ?
[11:24] <wonderman> and  / ?
[11:24] <wonderman> is you wanna backup the whole machine go ahead
[11:24] <wonderman> if*
[11:24] <ugc> wonderman: after crushed, I want to restore my machine.
[11:24] <ssta>  /etc is probably a good idea
[11:25] <ugc> HOME is not enogh.
[11:25] <wonderman> its not?
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> clonezilla comes to my mind
[11:25] <wonderman> installing packages doesnt take long, and they are all in repos
[11:25] <wonderman> rsync it then
[11:25] <ugc> wonderman: how about your kernel images?
[11:25] <wonderman> MonkeyDust: any idea why updates broke unity again ?
[11:25] <ugc> if you lose this files, they you can't restore you machine
[11:25] <bal_> MonkeyDust: it open applications  what next ?
[11:25] <wonderman> i cant stop the bar from hiding itself
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> wonderman  i don't like/use unity, so can't say
[11:26] <wonderman> its ok when the bar doesnt hide itself, im pulling my hair out, i refused to update for 1 month, because this happened last time
[11:26] <wonderman> so i went for it this morning, now CCSM doesnt work again
[11:26] <wonderman> i think i had to reinstall catalyst to fix it last time, do people not test these things?
[11:26] <ugc> wonderman: it is possible that the configuration files are changed?
[11:26] <ssta> ugc: for most purposes, backing up user data and configuration data is enough.  Easiest way to recover is then clean-reinstall and restore user data
[11:26] <wonderman> starting to really wind me up
[11:27] <wonderman> ssta i agree
[11:27] <bal_> ok thank you
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> bal_  alt-f2 and type the program name
[11:27] <kapz> any idea to minimize evolution to a gnome-shell notification icon? thanks :)
[11:27] <wonderman> where are devs +1 ?
[11:27] <ugc> ssta: you mean, when your computer crushed, you will install a new system and then restore the HOME dir
[11:27] <Whiskey> Anyone good on XRDP here?
[11:27] <ssta> ugc: yes
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> kapz  gnome2 had alltray, trie that (i havent)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> try*
[11:28] <ugc> ssta: how about your configration files you ever done ?
[11:28] <ankitb> signal strength bash script for wireless device
[11:28] <ssta> ugc: that's why I suggest backing up /etc as well
[11:28] <ugc> I mean you installed many services, like ssh and ftp etc?
[11:28] <kapz> MonkeyDust, alltray minimizes everyting(?) i guess
[11:28] <wonderman> ugc, it depends how you operate, i dont store any of my data on my machine that isnt backed up externally
[11:29] <ssta> ugc: also keeping a copy of the output of dpkg --get-selections
[11:29] <wonderman> if my machine crashed now, i wouldnt care
[11:29] <ugc> ssta: simple install will need you reconfigure and reinstall this service?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> kapz  alltray minimizes the window that you click on
[11:29] <wonderman> also most of the time a 'crash' you can fix
[11:29] <wonderman> if your hard drive packs up, just reinstall on a new one
[11:29] <wonderman> whats the point of backing up /, there isnt imho
[11:30] <kapz> MonkeyDust, All or any window I click on? or just evolution/specified apps? Thanks
[11:30] <ugc> yeah, you guys right, I just want to keep all my work environment.
[11:30] <Whiskey> No one use xRDP here
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> kapz  any window, just the one you click on -- mind: it was for gnome2
[11:30] <ugc> Whiskey: I use it
[11:30] <ugc> what 's your prob
[11:31] <kapz> nah...something like a deluge tray icon or dropbox icon or skype or frostwire.....pffft
[11:31] <ssta> ugc: if you feel it's better for YOU then by all means backup the entire system.  I don't tend to do it that way is all
[11:31] <Whiskey> I wanne now how to login to the console
[11:31] <Whiskey> and not get a new session started
[11:32] <Whiskey> i try to goolge lake crazy but i don´t find how to do it
[11:32] <ugc> well, I would listen to you, after all backup all the system take me a long period of time.
[11:32] <Whiskey> What you mean
[11:32] <wonderman> ugc just backup what you want
[11:33] <ugc> Whiskey: you installed xdrp on you machine?
[11:33] <ugc> and you want to remote control?
[11:33] <ugc> am i right/
[11:33] <mbroeker> Whiskey, CTRL-ALT-F2 switches to console, ALT-F7 or ALT-F8 switches back to gui
[11:33] <ugc> wonderman: ok, then home will be best.
[11:33] <theadmin> mbroeker: I don't think that ttys would work over xrdp...
[11:33] <ssta> ugc: I have a cronjob that rsyncs $HOME to the fileserver every 8 hours....plus I have /etc in subversion.
[11:33] <wonderman> like i said :)
[11:33] <mbroeker> theadmin, good point :)
[11:33] <Whiskey> ugc
[11:33] <jasonmsp> hey all.  Every so often things plugged into my USB ports dissapear.  When I do an lsusb they don't show up either.  Is there a way to reset the USB ports to find what it plugged into them?
[11:34] <ugc> and wonderman: i always use tar unity to backup?
[11:34] <Whiskey> i wanne have it to login to console by defult
[11:34] <viktor133> how can you monitor the temp of your processor (or any hardware)?
[11:34] <bahamas> hello. I'm trying to connect to a jabber sever with the default client that comes with ubuntu 11.40, but I get a network error. can anyone tell me how I can debug this to see where the error comes from?
[11:34] <wonderman> ugc i just copy to an external the files i need, if you are that worried about your system, do what ssta said and setup a cron to do it for you
[11:34] <Whiskey> mbroeker, none of those work ether
[11:34] <ugc> Whiskey: you want to your machine boot into consol by default?
[11:35] <n2diy> I have a PDF file I want to give to some club members, is there a quick way to scan it for viruses before I do so?
[11:35] <Whiskey> nooo
[11:35] <Whiskey> the xRDP
[11:35] <ssta> n2diy: viruses in a pdf file?  Umm...do such exist?
[11:35] <theadmin> Whiskey: y u no use ssh :/
[11:35] <ugc> wonderman: i wonder weather tar can achieve increse backup?
[11:35] <theadmin> ssta: Definetly, PDF are almost as dangerous for Windows as exe are
[11:36] <mbroeker> bahamas, do you use your own jabber server?
[11:36] <Whiskey> in Windows you do /console or /admin to login to console
[11:36] <n2diy> ssta, yes, I just googled it.
[11:36] <theadmin> n2diy: Try this place: www.virustotal.com
[11:36] <Whiskey> but i don´t find anyway to do that whit xRDP
[11:36] <ugc> Whiskey: well, xRDP is used for X window, means remote x login?
[11:36] <bahamas> mbroeker: the company I work for
[11:36] <n2diy> theadmin, thanks.
[11:36] <ssta> seriously?  pdf are largely just encapsulated postscript.  The mind boggles...
[11:36] <Whiskey> ugc
[11:36] <Whiskey> what do you mean
[11:36] <ugc> Whiskey: your problem seems to be impossible.
[11:36] <Whiskey> so its not possible then?
[11:37] <Whiskey> Also
[11:37] <mbroeker> bahamas, we too: we use pidgin and the jabber client must use the IP of the server as the connection server
[11:37] <Whiskey> the program i have in crontab
[11:37] <ugc> Whiskey: I mean xRDP is used for remote desktop control, not consol.
[11:37] <Whiskey> are not them supose to start
[11:37] <raven> hi
[11:37] <Whiskey> and i don´t have to login to make them start
[11:37] <Whiskey> right
[11:37] <FloodBot1> Whiskey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <ugc> Whiskey: but you can login desktop first, and then start a gnome terminal.
[11:38] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:38] <Whiskey> ugc im not sure i undertsand what you mean
[11:38] <bahamas> mbroeker: I'm using empathy though.
[11:39] <bahamas> and I don't understand why the domain name wouldn't work. the client should be able to do a DNS lookup
[11:39] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | raven
[11:40] <viktor133> is there a command or anything to monitor the temp of your system?
[11:41] <tumppu_> lm-sensors and then command sensors
[11:42] <ugc> hi, is there anyone who installed android in ubuntu?
[11:43] <ugc> in virtual machine.
[11:43] <ugc> mine can't connect to network
[11:43] <ugc> i am using androidx86
[11:43] <ugc> or any hint would be perfect.
[11:44] <oCean> ugc: /join #android
[11:44] <ikonia> ugc: saying "won't work" isn't helpful, you need to explain the problem if you want help.
[11:45] <ugc> oCean: thanks
[11:45] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:45] <ugc> ikonia: i installed androidx86 in kvm, and in virtual android system, i can't connect to the network
[11:46] <ugc> and i enter the ethnet config, it won't let me do that/
[11:46] <ikonia> ugc: ok, so you need to vierfy your networking and bridging setup at the host/guest level, then move up to the OS level.
[11:49] <raven> xubuntu 11.10 - cpu-freq-plugin does not take any effect to frequency - any solution?
[11:50] <ugc> ikonia: i checked that out, it is NAT ed
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> ugc  change NAT to bridged
[11:51] <korukor> raven: #xubuntu or #xfce
[11:51] <ugc> MonkeyDust: ok, let me try.
[11:53] <katesmith> /join #outhouse
[11:54] <katesmith> oh sorry
[11:54] <katesmith> that is a great chat room i go to anyways
[11:54] <ugc> MonkeyDust: i am afraid, afraid
[11:54] <ugc> i used to do it once more, and then the network unavailable
[11:57] <Guinness2702> Network/Routing question.  I want to route all packets whose destination is port X to something other than the default route, but leave others going that way.  How can I do that?
[11:58] <rootkit> ubuntu is kinda bloated
[11:59] <rymate1234> rootkit: how is it bloated?
[11:59] <rootkit> bloatware
[12:00] <Guinness2702> Please do not feed the troll
[12:00] <Guinness2702> okay, he left :D
[12:03] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: iptables can do that (and more)
[12:03] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to do it :)
[12:04] <Guinness2702> I just found something on google about prerouting
[12:04] <Guinness2702> found a page which says "iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j MARK --set-mark 1"
[12:04] <Guinness2702> but wtf is "MARK"
[12:05] <oCean> Guinness2702: please don't use acronyms such as wtf here, thanks
[12:05] <sabgenton> whats better to install PrecisePangolin alpha 2 or the daily builds?
[12:05] <oCean> sabgenton: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (still alpha). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[12:06] <sabgenton> cheers
[12:06] <mariano> ciao
[12:06] <mariano> !list
[12:07] <veggu> hi guys , i have an issue that I am unable to set the desktop visual effects to extra as it says that there is no graphic drivers and lspci tells me that there is a intel graphics driver
[12:07] <sabgenton> also if I want to send bug reports on unstable wifi drivers am I better making it for PrecisePangolin or oneiric
[12:08] <veggu> please help
[12:08] <sabgenton> what is more helpfull to devs?
[12:08] <X30Ncore> hi, I need to know a good tool for finding the airtime balance on a GSM 3G mobile device
[12:09] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: mark is used in routes, but you don't need them: "iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport <<<PORT>>> -j ROUTE --oif <<<INTERFACE>>>"
[12:09] <AlanBell> veggu: what version of Ubuntu, how old is the computer, what is the exact line from lspci for the vga card?
[12:09] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, cool, thanks
[12:10] <veggu> AlanBell:  i am using ubuntu 10.10 , i have a hp dv6 laptop and the lspci o/p is as follows  :
[12:10] <veggu> AlanBell: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:10] <alexx188> hello
[12:10] <n3uron_> veggu, pastebin ~~
[12:11] <alexx188> does anybody connect the pluto-p board to emc2?
[12:11] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, I'm gonna guess that won't rewrite the source address - What I really need is for packets to come back the other way too
[12:11] <veggu> n3uron_:  pastebin  ~~ 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point HECI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Cougar Point USB
[12:12] <AlanBell> n3uron_: one line doesn't need to be pastebinned!
[12:12] <AlanBell> veggu: that seems a reasonably new laptop and sensible chipset, it should just work
[12:13] <alexx188> does anybody see me?
[12:13] <n3uron_> Im running in smaller scale AlanBell, sorry if it was 1 line.
[12:13] <AlanBell> !ask | alexx188
[12:13] <veggu> AlanBell: even i taught the same but nothing is happening..
[12:14] <veggu> AlanBell:  is there anyway by which i can actually install the drivers manually ?
[12:15] <AlanBell> veggu: I think it might be that it is too new for 10.10, the sandy bridge chipset was rather new then, perhaps try a live cd of 11.10 (or even 12.04 if you want to test the one in development)
[12:16] <veggu> AlanBell: ok
[12:18] <hoijui> i am using ubuntu (XFCE) on netbook with the typically small screen (1024x600), and evolution is just unusable here
[12:18] <AlanBell> veggu: there are some PPAs with backports of newer drivers, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/58376/how-do-i-install-the-intel-hd-3000-video-driver for reference, looks like it might work best if you have a 32bit install and is a bit experimental
[12:18] <hoijui> why is it the default email client?
[12:18] <hoijui> practically every dialog is too large in height
[12:18] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: Well, if you want another source address, you'd need a "--continue" at the end of the prerouting and a new POSTROUTING with '-A POSTROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport <<<PORT>>> -j SNAT --to <<<NEWIPADDRESS>>>
[12:18] <Guinness2702> Ampelbein, I get "iptables v1.4.4: unknown option `--oif'"
[12:18] <hoijui> and there are no scrollbars
[12:18] <Ampelbein> Guinness2702: Oh, right, I think Ubuntu doesn't have that patch. Let me check.
[12:19] <hoijui> it is only soso usable using Alt+dragging
[12:19] <AlanBell> hoijui: that is a longstanding bug, bug 8629 and various re-reports of it
[12:19] <AlanBell> hoijui: the default email client is now thunderbird
[12:19] <hoijui> ahh k :D nice, and thanks
[12:19] <Lint> hoijui, that's gtk for you
[12:20] <bazhang> Lint, no it's not. it's a bug
[12:20] <hoijui> will use thunderbird too then
[12:20] <AlanBell> hoijui: it is actually probably quite easy to fix, I looked into it ages and ages ago, there is a wizard class somewhere that has a fixed height and it throws everything out and doesn't rescale and grow scrollbars.
[12:21] <hoijui> mmm ok :-)
[12:21] <hoijui> they lazy?
[12:21] <AlanBell> no, they just have bigger screens than you :)
[12:21] <hoijui> i mean.. netbook users are.. many, these days
[12:22] <AlanBell> anyone can fix it, if motivated to do so
[12:22] <hoijui> an email client just cant afford to ignore that
[12:22] <hoijui> yeah.. ;-)
[12:23] <hoijui> if it would be java, i'd do it
[12:23] <AlanBell> there are a bunch of patches to make it fit, and a lot of the dialogs do now fit, take a screenshot of the one that doesn't and file a bug about it
[12:24] <AlanBell> see comment #32 onwards for my thoughts on the matter in 2009 :)
[12:24] <hoijui> i just updated my ubuntu, and the main config dialog and the add-account dialogs fail
[12:25] <purplefool> does anyone know anything about a engts450 graphics card?  having trouble getting a decent screen resolution
[12:25] <hoijui> so i guess the patches are not yet released
[12:26] <Ben64> purplefool: sounds like a nvidia card, so you should just use the Hardware Drivers dialog to install the nvidia drivers
[12:28] <joker400> hi all of you
[12:29] <AlanBell> hoijui: yeah, years ago, dunno if they have fallen out or some other dialogs have grown too big, but on an actuall 1024x600 screen most of it should fit
[12:30] <pooltable> hi help can i run to torrent programs at the same time ?
[12:30] <bazhang> pooltable, why would you need to
[12:31] <Lint> *eight* years, lol
[12:31] <bazhang> Lint, ?
[12:31] <pooltable> bazhang i running q torrent but some torrent just do not load just keep in checking mode how do i fix it ?
[12:31] <hoijui> AlanBell, ok... strange :/ it does not, here.
[12:32] <hoijui> also even if it would.. htere are no scrollbars where there should be some
[12:32] <hoijui> and hte defautl open larger then what fits on screen, which also never should happen
[12:32] <hoijui> cant make them smaller
[12:32] <hoijui> but i switched to thunderbord now, and it seems to do it right :/
[12:32] <hoijui> aehh :-)
[12:33] <bazhang> pooltable, have you tested any other torrent clients with those same torrents
[12:33] <pooltable> bazhang that what i want to do now
[12:34] <bazhang> !torrent | pooltable here's a list
[12:34] <pooltable> bazhang i am testing ktorrent
[12:34] <koffeehaus> hi, does anyone remember the command line of gconf path to set your real name on the panel instead of username?
[12:35] <koffeehaus> i meant command line OR gconf path
[12:37] <oCean> koffeehaus: system/indicator/me I think? (from memory, as I'm not using gnome)
[12:38] <aptgetter232> Hello. I am trying to install a Canon Pixma MG5150 printer on Ubuntu using the MG5100 series CUPS driver, but when I print Ubuntu tells  me "Rendering Complete", but the printer doesn't output anything. What shall I do? Any help is appreciated. Thanks..
[12:40] <magma> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu via command line?
[12:40] <koffeehaus> oCean : i've just checked it isn't there :(
[12:40] <StevenR> magma: you can do a CLI install
[12:41] <koffeehaus> oCean omgubuntu did an article on it, but they seem out atm
[12:41] <magma> ~what is CLI?
[12:41] <StevenR> magma: what do you want to achieve? (building a headless server) ? CLI is Command Line Interface
[12:41] <oCean> koffeehaus: I found this one: http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/05/remove-username-memenu-ubuntu-natty-1104.html
[12:41] <trijntje> Hi all, I want to enable middle button emulation on oneiric. How can I enable this permanently?
[12:44] <koffeehaus> oCean : no waaay!! i don't have that path on my gconf-editor. weird
[12:44] <monsterripper> Hi there, I'm doing a lot of Documentation with Druif for Lubuntu (Worxin' off these http:/goo.gl/v5IMJ )
[12:45] <aptgetter232> Hello. I am trying to install a Canon Pixma MG5150 printer on Ubuntu using the MG5100 series CUPS driver, but when I print Ubuntu tells  me "Rendering Complete", but the printer doesn't output anything. What shall I do? Any help is appreciated. Thanks..
[12:45] <koffeehaus> oCean - maybe it;s coz i'm using maverick, not natty
[12:45] <monsterripper> Hi there, I'm doing a lot of Documentation with Druif for Lubuntu (Worxin' off these http://goo.gl/v5IMJ )
[12:45] <bazhang> monsterripper, whats the question
[12:45] <koffeehaus> oCean - no wait i also have elementary OS which also a 10.10 and it works there. ah never mind i'll leave as it is then
[12:45] <oCean> koffeehaus: heh, ok
[12:46] <koffeehaus> oCean thnx anyways
[12:46] <monsterripper> bazhang: No Qu.. Just spreading the gispell ...
[12:47] <NyLes> hi?
[12:47] <NyLes> can someone help ? :(
[12:47] <bazhang> NyLes, with what
[12:48] <NyLes> i really want to use Ubuntu, but the problem is my video card has bugs with the latest driver
[12:48] <NyLes> my video card is fine with Puppy Linux, how will i get the drivers there? is it possible?
[12:50] <NyLes> please help me bazhang, I really want to use Ubuntu..
[12:50] <oCean> monsterripper: this is not the place to do so
[12:50] <bazhang> NyLes, whats the graphics card
[12:50] <pooltable> bazhang ktorresnt is working just fine with one of the torrent thanks
[12:51] <neil1> anyone overcame problems with widescreen laptop and radeon graphics card on a toshiba laptop?
[12:51] <NyLes> bazhang, NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 its an old video card..
[12:52] <katesmith> /join ##aspiefriends
[12:52] <neil1> it looks like it is going to load, but i get a blank screen
[12:52] <bazhang> NyLes,  and you tried the additional drivers?
[12:52] <katesmith> i will stick with windows
[12:53] <NyLes> additional drivers? im not aware of sorry..
[12:53] <oCean> katesmith: fine, no need to share here
[12:53] <katesmith> i will keep my viruses , i tried to learn ubuntu but i have failed at it badly
[12:54] <oCean> katesmith: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[12:54] <katesmith> okay
[12:54] <bazhang> NyLes, check in system settings
[12:56] <purplefool> Ben64, lol...that is what i have been trying for over a day now...have reinstalled system but no joy.  found solution in xorg.conf and trying that now
[12:57] <randomnewb> Is there a way to extract zip files with foreign file names without the file names being garbled?
[12:58] <cloudgeek> problem while installing and configuring mrtg
[13:00] <neil1> Anyone know of good support sites for laptop ubuntu issues?
[13:00] <danileigh79> Neil what6's the issue?
[13:01] <NyLes> bazhang, ok sir I will check on it.. thanks for your time..
[13:02] <danileigh79> neil1: What is the issue?
[13:02] <neil1> Dani, trying to boot from livecd and screen goes.  I can get to purple loading screen with "nomodeset" option ticked but after the welcome chime screen is blank again
[13:03] <danileigh79> neil1: tried a clean install on USB?
[13:03] <silvio> !lista
[13:03] <neil1> Yup, also tried going from USB with same result.  Thinking driver issue?  Also, laptop is widescreen.
[13:04] <danileigh79> neil1: what was original os on lappy?
[13:04] <neil1> Windows 7
[13:05] <EroxOne> hi
[13:05] <danileigh79> neil1: what driver/grpahics card you got?
[13:05] <NyLes> bazhang, how will I get there? If even from the live cd, my video card is not working?
[13:06] <NyLes> it's just blank
[13:06] <neil1> Dani, Its a Radeon card I think.  Processor is AMD dual core graphics.  Make sense?
[13:07] <danileigh79> Neil, sounds like driver not supported... may need to reinstall Win, then do side by side Ubuntu install
[13:07] <NyLes> neil1, i think we have the same problem but mine has something to do with the drivers, i hope danileigh79 can help me too :(
[13:08] <neil1> So it's most likely a driver issue?  Would using Windows to update drivers as a first step be sensible?  I don't have a backup disk for Windows 7 so would hope not to have to reinstall it
[13:09]  * Lint wonders why ubuntu doesn't defaults to VGA modes in that case
[13:09] <danileigh79> neil1: meditate on this I must, return shortly I will
[13:09] <danileigh79> lol
[13:09] <NyLes> neil1, thanks for the idea of nomodeset, its just boots perfectly but still my video card is not working..
[13:09] <danileigh79> I'm a geek
[13:10] <NyLes> bazhang, still there?
[13:10] <neil1> NyLes - frustrating isn't it!?  But maybe forcing a VGA mode might help...
[13:12] <mgolisch> neil1: did you try selecting another mode from the cds boot menu?
[13:13] <neil1> mgolisch - how would I do that?  I've read somewhere there is a safe mode bu it isn't clear to me how to select it
[13:13] <NyLes> neil1, yeah its realy frustrating, forcing a VGA mode? how is it done? will it be just fine? nomodeset results with a resolution of 640 x ***  i think..
[13:14] <neil1> NYLes - if you hit f6 and type in VGA=778 at the end of the line I got to a helpful screen listing out all available screen res
[13:15] <mgolisch> neil1: selecting anything there doenst make it work?
[13:16] <neil1> Mgolisch, when I hit f4 I get choice of modes: normal, use driver update disc or oem install.  Not sure the last two are really what I'm after but let me know your thoughts
[13:17] <danileigh79_2> neil1: try this link   http://askubuntu.com/questions/79416/black-screen-after-installing-ubuntu-11-10-amd-64-altenate-radeon-graphics-card
[13:17] <NyLes> neil1, I see, so if I choose there a higher resolution, it will fit?
[13:17] <neil1> I tried that, it didn't work for me... but I would give it a go anyway
[13:17] <intok> any recommendations on an NES emulator that supports Game Genie and has remappable controls? Already tried GFCE Ultra and Mendnafen, both have a terrible UI...
[13:18] <UrB> anyone here with fully functional bluetooth on ubuntu 11.10 (polling to see if it's even possible :D)
[13:18] <mgolisch> UrB: what do you mean by fully functional?
[13:18] <UrB> I banged my head with that long enough to update to 12.04 in hope it would be fixed there, but now I just have new wall to bang head against :)
[13:19] <UrB> mgolisch: can pair, can send files both ways, can stream audio
[13:19] <UrB> I can't do any of those
[13:19] <UrB> just started to eliminate possible causes, but this is tedious as hell
[13:20] <mgolisch> i only have a mice here, i can pair with it and it works after that
[13:20] <NyLes> can someone help me too? bazhang seems AFK :(
[13:20] <mgolisch> neil1: no meant that vga option, like teling it to use a different resolution
[13:20] <danileigh79> NyLes: try the link I sent to neil1