[00:58] <JackXu> Hey, latest Xubuntu, screen brightness won't change on a Samsung N150 (Atom 1.66). Hotkey gives brightness indicator, but no change, and my brightness changes in Power Settings don't "save"
[00:58] <JackXu> Any ideas?
[00:59] <holstein> JackXu: how about in gnome?
[00:59] <holstein> or unity?
[00:59] <holstein> have you tried that with a live CD ?
[01:00] <JackXu> No Gnome, and in Xu, it wouldn't change before, but i rebooted it while on battery and now it's stuck at 20%
[01:01] <JackXu> *Xfce
[01:01] <holstein> right, xubuntu is running XFCE
[01:01] <JackXu> Yeah, lol, just sounded funny to say "Xu"
[01:01] <holstein> what im wondering is.. is there a scenario in which you have encountered normal functionality ?
[01:03] <JackXu> Nope
[01:04] <JackXu> I looked, I don't even have a "VGA" or anything graphical in my /proc/acpi dir
[01:04] <holstein> i found a bug
[01:04] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/574250
[01:04] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 574250 in udev "SAMSUNG N150 Laptop : Brightness issue" [Undecided,Fix released]
[01:04] <holstein> down the page a bit
[01:04] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa
[01:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get install samsung-tools samsung-backlight
[01:05] <holstein> JackXu: as long as you are comfortable with ppa-purge, it wont hurt to try it
[01:05] <JackXu> not familiar with it, not afraid to try
[01:06] <holstein> JackXu: well, just so you know whats going on, and you're not just copy and pasting randomly
[01:06] <holstein> looks like a nice PPA https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa/
[01:07] <holstein> JackXu: you'll want to reboot after installing those pacakges
[01:08] <JackXu> ok, and i should probably nab all of them?
[01:08] <holstein> well, those 2
[01:08] <holstein> samsung-tools samsung-backlight
[01:08] <holstein> JackXu: open a terminal
[01:08] <holstein> copy and paste in..
[01:08] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:voria/ppa
[01:09] <JackXu> Yup yup
[01:09] <JackXu> I'm installing them now
[01:09] <holstein> ^ that will add that source and give you access
[01:09] <holstein> JackXu: AH, ok
[01:09] <JackXu> yeah, add rep, update the rep listing, install the packages
[01:10] <JackXu> i understand more or less, just don't know what to type/ or understand all the commands "&&" does both or something, but i don't  know when to use or not use them
[01:11] <JackXu> holdstein: thanks for the help, gonna reboot now and let you know if it didn't work
[01:11] <holstein> JackXu: it'll get more common though
[01:11] <JackXu> whew, lol, big learning curve
[01:11] <holstein> i just didnt want to drop a bunch of copy and paste in commands without telling you what they do
[01:11] <JackXu> appreciate it
[01:25] <jackxu> holstein: it worked, keyboard brightness, and the fn- keys work too, nifty control panel and all. thank you
[01:41] <holstein> jackxu: :)
[01:41] <holstein> anytime
[01:44] <jackxu> holstein: :)
[01:53] <ranilynn> my internet wont work
[02:23] <ranilynn> hi everyone my internet won't connect even though it detects wireless networks it just says ralink 802.11 bg WLAN then disconnected followed by my home internet
[02:23] <ranilynn> hi everyone my internet won't connect even though it detects wireless networks it just says ralink 802.11 bg WLAN then disconnected followed by my home internet
[02:24] <holstein> ranilynn: i would try a different driver... maybe even the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[02:24] <ranilynn> can i install the windows driver?
[02:24] <holstein> ranilynn: assuming you have a known good access point, and you know the machine is the issue
[02:25] <holstein> ranilynn: you dont install the windows driver, you use it with ndiswrapper
[02:25] <holstein> ranilynn: is it a known good access point?
[02:25] <ranilynn> holstein: it has to be my laptop connects to the internet and i've reset my modem/router
[02:25] <ranilynn> holtein: it's a good access point
[02:26] <holstein> OK
[02:26] <holstein> ranilynn: do you have a windows driver handy?
[02:26] <holstein> you'll just need the .inf part
[02:26] <holstein> driver.inf or whatever
[02:26] <holstein> ini?
[02:26] <ranilynn> holstein: no i don't have them handy
[02:26]  * holstein looking
[02:27] <holstein> ranilynn: would you like to look at the manufacturers site?
[02:27] <holstein> see if you can dig them up
[02:27] <holstein> i usually go for the XP ones
[02:27] <ranilynn> holstein: i went to the manufacturer's site for the linux ones to get 404 not found
[02:28] <holstein> ranilynn: right, we are interested in the XP ones right now
[02:28] <ranilynn> holstein: ok
[02:29] <ranilynn> holstein: i'm at the manufacturer's website under windows support
[02:29] <ranilynn> http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php
[02:29] <holstein> cool, go for it... you'll want to unzip it
[02:30] <holstein> i was thinking more like, at the dell site or whatever
[02:30] <holstein> but, give it a go
[02:31] <ranilynn> does it matter which ones i go with or just pick one
[02:31] <holstein> ranilynn: i would suggest, again, going to the manufacturers site, such as dell or toshiba, and getting the drivers for XP
[02:32] <holstein> but, you can just get them, and try them
[02:32] <ranilynn> ok i'm doing that
[02:34] <holstein> ranilynn: tell me what chipset you have, and we'll look at other potentially easier options
[02:35] <ranilynn> how do i find the chipset
[02:35] <holstein> open a terminal
[02:35] <holstein> run..
[02:35] <holstein> lspci
[02:35] <holstein> and you'll see it there
[02:35] <holstein> you can run
[02:35] <ranilynn> and hp only has lightscribe drivers
[02:35] <holstein> lspci -v
[02:36] <ranilynn> do you want me to paste this to you
[02:36] <holstein> ranilynn: before we do any of this, can you plug it in to a router, and check for, and apply upgrades?
[02:37] <holstein> ranilynn: you can pastebin if you want
[02:37] <ranilynn> already did that
[02:37] <holstein> or just paste that one line*
[02:37] <ranilynn> there's a lot of lines
[02:37] <ranilynn> :/
[02:37] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:38] <ranilynn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/622200/
[02:40] <holstein> ranilynn: hmmm, it doesnt seem to be picked up
[02:40] <holstein> ranilynn: what is the unit?
[02:40] <holstein> hp mininote?
[02:40] <ranilynn> hp slimline
[02:41] <ranilynn> s5150t
[02:47] <ranilynn> holsein: hp slimline s5150t
[02:48] <ranilynn> holstein: would my win7 backup disk have the drivers?
[02:49] <holstein> ranilynn: maybe.. are you plugged in?
[02:49] <holstein> you need to get a package
[02:49] <holstein> sin a terminal
[02:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[02:49] <holstein> you can run that from the menu (called windows drivers, or something like that)
[02:50] <ranilynn> it's running
[02:50] <ranilynn> now should i reboot when it's done?
[02:50] <holstein> nope
[02:50] <holstein> ndisgtk is running?
[02:50] <holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/temp/netathr.inf
[02:50] <holstein> try that driver
[02:51] <holstein> i extracted it from the .exe on the HP site
[02:51] <holstein> *didnt say ralink though
[02:51] <ranilynn> do i just copy all this into terminal
[02:52] <holstein> nah
[02:52] <holstein> ranilynn: you have ndisgtk running?
[02:52] <holstein> thats what i thought you meant by 'its running'
[02:52] <ranilynn> it's already done
[02:52] <holstein> OK
[02:52] <ranilynn> i put that in and hit enter
[02:52] <holstein> so, download that driver
[02:52] <holstein> ranilynn: put what it?
[02:53] <holstein> that URL?
[02:53] <holstein> you need to download it, right?
[02:53] <holstein> you did that?
[02:54] <holstein> then, point ndisgtk at the downloaded netathr.inf
[02:54] <holstein> it'll either magically fire up, or you'll need to do some research
[03:35] <philipballew> can someone help me with recovering my files off a messed up flash drive
[03:36] <holstein> philipballew: sure
[03:36] <holstein> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[03:36] <holstein> and use photorec
[03:36] <holstein> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[03:38] <philipballew> sudo photorec i assume. my friend was copying files from a flash drish drive when the drive was while still in the laptop came up with a message saying unsafe removel of hardware
[03:38] <philipballew> then the files on the flash drive were not in the folder
[03:39] <philipballew> holstein,
[03:41] <ch3ckmatez> hello~
[03:56] <philipballew> holstein, photorec can not find file headers, i get errors when it starts the recovery
[03:56] <holstein> maybe they didnt go at all
[03:56] <holstein> if it got pulled before the files got actually written
[03:57] <philipballew> well the files would still be there untill something is wrotten over
[03:57] <holstein> photorec'll copy them then
[03:58] <holstein> im not sure about headers
[03:58] <holstein> it doesnt preserve filenames
[03:58] <philipballew> maybe i'm doing it wrong
[03:59] <holstein> plausible :)
[03:59] <holstein> i had to try several times the first go around
[04:00] <philipballew> if ubuntu ever goes mainstream i expect a bunch og gui programs will be written for terminal programs
[04:01] <philipballew> ill probably still use terminal stuff though
[04:03] <philipballew> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/   this is the guide im using
[04:05] <holstein> philipballew: but, you didnt delete them
[04:06] <holstein> right?
[04:07] <philipballew> no i did not. i belive osx's default is to when you drag and drop it copys is
[04:07] <philipballew> *it
[04:08] <philipballew> holstein,
[04:08] <holstein> most every OS i know of assumes copy from different disks
[04:08] <holstein> i mean, if you lost them in a copy
[04:08] <holstein> just go to the original
[04:08] <holstein> the USB stick is the original?
[04:09] <philipballew> yeah it is
[04:09] <holstein> nah, that doesnt make sense
[04:09] <philipballew> the files were orinigaly on the flash drive
[04:09] <holstein> well, there still there then
[04:10] <holstein> just let photorec copy all the stuff off, and weed through it
[04:13] <philipballew> ill try. it keeps giving a weird error
[04:13] <holstein> just let it chew on the whole thing
[04:14] <philipballew> how so?
[04:14] <holstein> i mean, i just select the options as they come
[04:14] <holstein> i dont remember the particulars
[04:14] <philipballew> the guide im using seemes good
[04:14] <philipballew> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/recoverdeletedfiles/
[04:15] <holstein> eh, i just read the options
[04:15] <holstein> choose a source and destination and wait
[04:16] <philipballew> sounds easier then it really is
[04:17] <holstein> well, best case scenario, in a couple hours, you got a bunch of files to go through
[04:18] <holstein> data recovery is not trivial, thats why those recovery folk do so well
[04:18] <holstein> but, im sure you can sort it out
[04:26] <philipballew> holstein, what type of partition would it be?
[04:27] <holstein> philipballew: whatever type it is
[04:27] <holstein> i forget the options, but i just go with the most appropriate for the partition type
[04:27] <philipballew> haha. i think this flash drive is coroupted :(
[04:28] <holstein> sure, but if its showing up, photorec is the deal
[04:28] <philipballew> it mounts though
[04:28] <holstein> i had one on my phone that died
[04:28] <holstein> it didnt mount
[04:28] <holstein> but, it showed up after a LONG wait
[04:28] <holstein> i even tried writing a new table
[04:28] <holstein> then, i just let photorec chew on it overnight
[04:28] <holstein> got all the stuff
[04:29] <holstein> this was actually a microSD card
[04:29] <philipballew_> i'm probably just doing the options wrong
[04:29] <holstein> philipballew_: maybe
[04:30] <holstein> is it just an ext3 or 4?
[04:30] <holstein> something normal?
[04:30] <holstein> or FAT?
[04:30] <philipballew_> its fat i belive
[04:30] <philipballew_> maybe ntfs
[04:30] <holstein> i pretty much go with the defaults
[04:30] <philipballew_> its just a simple flash drive
[04:31] <holstein> pretty sure i did intel as type
[04:31] <holstein> and did the whole disk
[04:31] <philipballew_> ill try it
[04:31] <holstein> philipballew_: are the errors relating to the destination maybe?
[04:33] <philipballew_> holstein, it sayd there are zero files to recover
[04:33] <holstein> philipballew_: thats not good
[04:33] <holstein> are you pointing to the right place?
[04:33] <holstein> i mean, you can mount it right?
[04:33] <holstein> and you see files on it?
[04:35] <philipballew_> no. i dont see files on it. yes it mounts. i think the files were lost when they were being copied off them and the drive glitched
[04:35] <holstein> philipballew_: thats very odd
[04:35] <holstein> if photorec dont see anything to save, then you can give up i say
[04:36] <holstein> thats my go-to for jobs like that
[04:36] <philipballew_> well they were being copied and the drive somehow unmounted and yet it was still in the drive
[04:36] <holstein> philipballew_: :/
[04:36] <holstein> yeah, who knows
[04:36] <philipballew_> then it said dont remove stuff without saftly ejecting
[04:36] <philipballew_> i dont know. crazy stuff
[04:37] <holstein> yeah, you should unmount in OSX too
[04:40] <philipballew_> thats what is weird because it was still phsyically inside the drive. intresting
[04:59] <ApOgEE> hi all
[04:59] <philipballew_> ApOgEE, hello!
[05:42] <dvz-> wuz good ppl
[12:11] <coalwater> if i have a command that needs a display, and i can pass it the display as a parameter, can i start it on an ssh and let it start on the running session that has x server running?
[13:26] <geirha> Yes, if you know the displaynumber of the remove display, you can do  ssh user@remote DISPLAY="displaynum" command
[13:26] <geirha> s/remove/remote/
[13:28] <geirha> If you want the remote command to use the local display, then  ssh -X user@remote command
[13:37] <coalwater> geirha, could u please explain the -X parameter
[13:39] <geirha> It enables X11 forwarding
[13:40] <geirha> ssh -X user@remote    will do some magic and set a DISPLAY variable on the remote end, which in turn means that any X11 programs you run from the remote shell will be displayed on your local display.
[13:41] <coalwater> hm
[13:41] <coalwater> ok that's cool but i think it needs a port
[13:41] <coalwater> ** Message: err: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-MF6a6ExfDr: Connection refused
[13:48] <geirha> That seems unrelated to X11 forwarding.
[18:18] <Sidewinder1> bodhi_zazen, And a hearty Good Afternoon to you! Or is it an hearty/..
[21:58] <philipballew> holstein, I managed to get all the data off from last night! thought i'd let you know
[22:12] <elks294> how would i view connections under http or https
[22:12] <elks294> or network ports in use
[22:13] <elks294> im running a newsreader and downloading but want to confirm port 443 is being used
[22:23] <elks294> ok nevermind
[22:23] <coalwater> elks294, use network tools, ull find a netstat tab, try active network services option and choose scan
[22:23] <coalwater> or u can just run 'netstat' on terminal
[22:23] <elks294> yes
[22:23] <elks294> i seen netstat but cant scroll up
[22:24] <elks294> the list is too long
[22:24] <elks294> how do i get to top of list in terminal
[22:24] <coalwater> use | less or | more, or use shift + page up
[22:24] <coalwater> or output the whole output in a file
[22:24] <coalwater> using >
[22:25] <coalwater> like netstat > output.txt
[22:25] <coalwater> then u can do a gedit output.txt
[22:25] <coalwater> so many options :P
[22:25] <elks294> ;]
[22:25] <coalwater> i like the pipe + less
[22:26] <coalwater> like netstat | less
[22:26] <elks294> shift + pgup does not get me to top of list
[22:26] <elks294> its cut out
[22:27] <coalwater> then use |less or | more or > output_file.txt
[22:27] <elks294> what is |less or| more
[22:28] <coalwater> lets try a fast command
[22:28] <coalwater> like try "lshw | less"
[22:28] <coalwater> then u can scroll up and down with arrows
[22:28] <coalwater> or use "more" instead of "less"
[22:28] <coalwater> little different functionality
[22:28] <coalwater> try both
[22:29] <coalwater> more can't go back up i suppose
[22:29] <elks294> now its saying log file:
[22:29] <coalwater> what did u type?
[22:30] <elks294> lshw | less
[22:31] <elks294> ''lshw | less''
[22:31] <coalwater> lshw is just a command that has a huge output, just like netstat, the output it self isn't important, it's just the way u scroll
[22:31] <elks294> oh
[22:31] <coalwater> u can use it with netstat
[22:31] <elks294> how do i get back to terminal its sitting at END
[22:31] <coalwater> netstat | less
[22:31] <elks294> and the says log file:
[22:31] <coalwater> press Q
[22:32] <coalwater> letter q
[22:32] <elks294> that works
[22:32] <elks294> thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:33] <coalwater> any time :P
[22:33] <coalwater> u should try the output file once when ur done too
[22:34] <coalwater> netstat > out.txt or something, then u'll find that file created, u can open it with gedit or any program
[22:35] <elks294> cool
[22:35] <elks294> found what i needed
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> hi ppl
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> my usb pen is acting up
[22:40] <kristian-aalborg> this is a "netinstall" ubuntu for which I added a desktop etc
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> I'm wondering if I miss some lib or other? first the thing automounted at /mnt/disk - second time around it won't mount
[22:41] <kristian-aalborg> (automatically)
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> also, holstein - yo!
[22:44] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: wow
[22:44] <holstein> good timing
[22:44] <holstein> whats up?
[22:44] <kristian-aalborg> not much apart from me saying "yo" and cursing about that USB pen
[22:45] <holstein> hehe
[22:45] <holstein> yeah, who knows
[22:45] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: its showing up though right?
[22:45] <holstein> just not mounting?
[22:45] <holstein> see if it shows up in sudo fdisk -l
[22:45] <kristian-aalborg> it does
[22:46] <kristian-aalborg> /dev/sdb1               1<PHONE_NUMBER>    7  HPFS/NTFS
[22:46] <holstein> and you can manually mount it?
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> aha!
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Input/output error
[22:48] <kristian-aalborg> I also got out of nowhere the last time I tried
[22:49] <holstein> yeah, who knows.. those things go bad
[22:49] <kristian-aalborg> this is quite new - 8 gb thingy
[22:49] <holstein> unfortunately, those things come bad sometimes
[22:50] <holstein> ive had more than 5 new ones bad out of the box
[22:50] <holstein> anyways... i would just reformat it
[22:50] <holstein> see how it acts on a nother machine too
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> damn it... this time I go with ext2
[22:52] <kristian-aalborg> this dude I'm giving some stuff can get serious about file system, I shall not pander to his primitive system!
[22:54] <kristian-aalborg> sorry if this is a bit o/t - but anyone know how I can check the status of a dropbox upload?
[22:57] <holstein> i just look at the applet in the tray
[22:57] <holstein> if it looks susupicious, i kill it, and re-start dropbox
[23:01] <charlie-tca> I look at the website interface to see if it made it, when I need to verify one.
[23:03] <holstein> charlie-tca: good call
[23:03] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: ^^
[23:04] <holder> How can I test if my ISP is throttling my bittorrenting?
[23:04] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, I don't have much success with the nautilus implementation.... I'll use the browser interface, I guess
[23:08] <holstein> holder: id probably call them up and ask
[23:28] <kristian-aalborg> http://www.ext2fsd.com/ <--- anyone tried this (on Win)? Looks pretty solid...


[20:06] <Walex> ah a couple of days ago I was able to install some apps from the Ubuntu Store after it had been dead for a while, it seems to be dead again. Any information?


[01:50] <xu-help16w> Help - new AHL v25 install on a gateway laptop. When I plug in my USB serial port the ttyUSB0 shows-up then goes away. Why?
[01:51] <tomreyn> xu-help16w: what is "AHL v25"?
[01:51] <xu-help16w> Sorry, Andy's Ham Linux, based on Xubuntu
[01:52] <tomreyn> ah, you will not usually find support for "based on *buntu" on *buntu channels
[01:52] <tomreyn> that's because those tend to be different, and no one around here knows how.
[01:53] <xu-help16w>  how about generally in xubuntu, any issues with ttyUSB0 support?
[01:53] <tomreyn> there's also #linux, which may try to cover your specific distribution
[01:53] <tomreyn> none that I'm aware of, but certainly there will be some bug reports, there always are. you know launchpad?
[01:54] <xu-help16w> ok, thx anyway CU
[03:51] <media> hi
[09:59] <xubuntu> o
[11:20] <xubuntu> hello
[11:20] <xubuntu> myname japans linux team
[11:20] <xubuntu> nonono
[11:20] <xubuntu> myname is japans linux team
[11:21] <xubuntu> ssssssssssssssssssssss
[11:21] <xubuntu> nnonnono
[22:29] <dunpeal> Hi there. I'm running Xubuntu 22.04 on a laptop with an external monitor. I configure the external monitor to "extend to the right". However, when my laptop wakes up from sleep, it goes back to "mirror displays", and also all the windows get relocated to my laptop monitor. Is there any fix for this?