[01:47] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:48] <Valmarko> What about version 6.10. Is it going to be LTS after 7.04 comes out ?
[01:48] <mineur[studying] > I'm pretty sure it isn't :)
[01:49] <Valmarko> why?
[01:49] <Valmarko> ummm... I think I understand
[01:50] <mineur[studying] > because it's practically impossible.. ubuntu wants a release every 6 months....... you can't offer support for that long for every release :)
[01:50] <Valmarko> After 3 years, 6.06 passes the legacy to the next one
[01:51] <william__> still with me waylon
[01:51] <mineur[studying] > LTS is imho only important for server releases
[01:52] <embrapa> someone can help me ?
[01:52] <mineur[studying] > depends with what :)
[01:52] <embrapa> ok.
[01:52] <embrapa> i try to start firefox
[01:52] <embrapa> but returns that message
[01:52] <embrapa> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:52] <embrapa> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:52] <embrapa> (firefox-bin:10796): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:52] <Jucato> !someone
[01:52] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:53] <stdin> embrapa: are you trying to start it as root?
[01:53] <embrapa> yes
[01:53] <stdin> embrapa: why?
[01:53] <friul_hack> hi
[01:53] <embrapa> why ?  what?
[01:54] <stdin> embrapa: why are you trying to start it as root?
[01:54] <embrapa> humm
[01:54] <embrapa> i dont know
[01:54] <embrapa> dont works?
[01:55] <embrapa> i will try whith a comon user
[01:55] <dealer> can I mount a NTFS disk, when I've only booted up with the CD ?
[01:55] <stdin> it's dangerous to run as browser as root
[01:55] <stdin> dealer: yeah, sure
[01:55] <embrapa> stdin: thank you
[01:55] <embrapa> it works
[01:55] <william__> waylan
[01:55] <dealer> stdin: how do I mount it ? 'man mount' ?
[01:55] <Valmarko> I wonder what that message from glxinfo really means -- libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[01:56] <stdin> dealer: do you know what device the ntfs partition is on? (eg /dev/hda1)
[01:56] <Valmarko> Do you know the meaning of it?
[01:56] <dealer>  /dev/hda6
[01:56] <mineur[studying] > just an unsupported OpenGL feature, not sure which exactly
[01:57] <stdin> Valmarko: It means your card doesn't support one of the extentions, I get it, it's fine :)
[01:57] <embrapa> stdin:  how i configure the firefox ? the browser dont have proprerits...why?
[01:57] <stdin> dealer: just run "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt" then it will be mounted in /mnt
[01:57] <william__> can i get some help
[01:57] <dealer> stdin: You just saved my day!
[01:58] <stdin> embrapa: it's in Edit -> Preferences
[01:58] <stdin> dealer: no problem :)
[01:58] <Valmarko> I know... if aint broken , dont fix it. Well, no exactly. If it can be better, do something :)
[01:58] <stdin> Valmarko: you can't fix it, it's hardware
[01:58] <william__> i am having issues with ltsp
[01:58] <mineur[studying] > it can't be better... it's probably your card not supporting a feature so the driver can't do better :)
[01:58] <embrapa> stdin: Thank you man! u
[01:58] <stdin> embrapa: no problem :)
[01:58] <Valmarko> ahhh... Now I got it :)
[01:59] <dealer> stdin: I dont have access to that folder when I try to open it
[01:59] <embrapa> stdin:  how i put on link of firefox on my kde desktop?
[01:59] <william__> lookin for help with ltsp
[02:00] <dealer> Permission denied
[02:00] <stdin> dealer: ok, un-mount it "sudo umount /mnt" then mount it like this "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id -u)"
[02:01] <william__> hey waylan
[02:01] <stdin> embrapa: go to the menu entry in the K-menu, right click it, choose "Add Item to Desktop"
[02:01] <dealer> stdin: I would have kissed you, have you been within reach!!! Now I'll be ready for The Burning Crusade :-D
[02:02] <william__> i need some help with copying files to a different dir
[02:02] <stdin> dealer: heh, that's ok, a "thanks" is enough :P
[02:02] <dealer> well, thanks :-D
[02:02] <stdin> :)
[02:06] <okirema> ubtntu-es
[02:06] <okirema> ubuntu-es
[02:06] <william__> can someone tell me the best distro for using ltsp
[02:06] <mineur[studying] > distro doesn't matter william__
[02:07] <william__> well i am having issues getting it to work
[02:07] <william__> i was getting help from waylan but has yet to pull it all to gether
[02:09] <mineur[studying] > I never configured ltsp, but in general there's no better distro for getting something particular done... once you have all the tools installed it's a matter of configuration... I'm not familiar with ltsp configs tho... :(
[02:09] <william__> thank you
[02:09] <william__> i will have to figure it out someother way
[02:20] <dealer> I've just mounted a NTFS partition, and I'm only running Ubuntu troughout the CD, and I'm trying to put some files in it, but I dont got permission to  wright anything onto it
[02:20] <dealer> How do I make myself some access ?
[02:22] <andreasw> hi
[02:23] <aldelv> dealer probably mounted read only
[02:23] <MidMark> dealer: write to ntfs it's set off due to possible corruption
[02:24] <dealer> Is there anyway I can overrun this =
[02:24] <dealer> I need to put 2 windows install files on that drive
[02:24] <dealer> partition
[02:25] <dealer> I did a 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda6 /mnt -o uid=$(id-u)
[02:26] <MidMark> dealer: you can red ext2/3 partitions from windows
[02:26] <MidMark> this is safer
[02:26] <MidMark> dealer: do NOT mount in write mode
[02:26] <MidMark> you will destroy your data
[02:26] <dealer> ahh
[02:27] <dealer> thanks for the warning then ;)
[02:27] <MidMark> !ntfs
[02:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:27] <MidMark> there are some other projects like 3d and fuse but at your own risk
[02:27] <MidMark> !fuse
[02:27] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:27] <MidMark> !ntfs-3g
[02:27] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:30] <Martiini> hello. Anyone knows if I can automount all partitions read/write without editing fstab? If I use "autofs" ?
[02:30] <MidMark> dealer: better create a fat32 partition to swap data or use explore2fs for windows to read ext2/3 linux partitions
[02:30] <andres_> rar/zip prog for kubuntu ???? help
[02:30] <MidMark> !rar
[02:30] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:31] <MidMark> !zip
[02:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[02:32] <Martiini> excuse moir ... i havve questioooon , pleaase
[02:33] <dealer> Thanks for the help dudes!
[02:33] <Martiini> can I make ubuntu automount ..like knoppix
[02:33] <MidMark> Martiini: why you don't want to edit fastab?
[02:34] <Martiini> dont know .. just dont wanna :) ..
[02:34] <Martiini> will kubuntu mount partitions with autofs .. the way its done in knoppix?
[02:34] <lupine_85> it does here
[02:35] <dealer> I used a program, just when I've installed Kubuntu, witch automounted all my disks in  '/media/' rather nice :-D
[02:35] <Martiini> dealer ,  remember what it was called?
[02:35] <lupine_85> it "just does it" here
[02:36] <Martiini> mine doesnt
[02:36] <Martiini> you know .. the way knoppix mounts all and gives you option to make writable
[02:36] <dealer> Martiini: Sorry, I don't :(
[02:38] <andres_> thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[02:54] <Martiini> My life has no meaning
[02:54] <Martiini> Im gonna get suicidal in #kubuntu
[02:55] <Martiini> heh.. if I died .. noone would care
[02:56] <Martiini> people die every day
[02:58] <nyusziful> sziasztok
[02:58] <nyusziful> Are here hungarian people?
[02:59] <stdin> !hu
[02:59] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[02:59] <nyusziful> ok
[03:00] <lems> finns det ngon motsvarighet till frontpage i kde?
[03:01] <andreasw> !se
[03:01] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:02] <stdin> anyone good with udev rules?
[03:07] <andreasw> stdin: The only rule I ever created was for my usb disc ^^
[03:07] <Martiini> hmhh .. ive edited fstab .. but still dont mount
[03:07] <Martiini>  .. /dev/hda7	 /media/hda7     ntfs-3g    defaults,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       0
[03:08] <stdin> andreasw: all I want is to make my now scsi disks fall under the "disk" group again
[03:08] <stdin> Martiini: add "auto" to the options
[03:11] <endo602> how do i mount an extfs with all permissions>?
[03:12] <stdin> extfs?
[03:12] <endo602> e2
[03:12] <endo602> sorry
[03:12] <stdin> endo602: you mean ext2 or ext3 fs ?
[03:13] <RadeoN> hi ya guys.it's a nice day isn't it?
[03:13] <endo602> ext3
[03:13] <endo602> its ext3
[03:13] <stdin> endo602: permissions are stored on the filesystem for ext2/3, so it doesn't matter mow you mount it, the permissions will be read from the filesystem
[03:14] <andreasw> RadeoN: At least it doesn't rain ^^
[03:14] <endo602> how do i edit that
[03:14] <endo602> because its not letting me delete
[03:14] <RadeoN> yeah,hey andreasw where r u?
[03:14] <stdin> endo602: use sudo
[03:15] <andreasw> RadeoN: Germany and you?
[03:16] <RadeoN> oh my...i'm from Sri Lanka
[03:16] <endo602> how can i make so all users can delete?
[03:16] <andreasw> the world is small at least in IRC ^^
[03:16] <endo602> how can i make so all users can rename
[03:17] <DaSkreech> RadeoN: Not bad
[03:17] <RadeoN> what do u do andreasw
[03:17] <Lynoure> endo602: usually you only want to make things so that users in certain group can delete and rename. Not all of them.
[03:17] <RadeoN> i guess so DaSkreech
[03:18] <DaSkreech> endo602: Hello.
[03:18] <endo602> i want all
[03:18] <endo602> hello
[03:18] <endo602> its fine
[03:18] <endo602> on this disk
[03:18] <DaSkreech> endo602: What are you trying to do?
[03:18] <endo602> its just media
[03:18] <endo602> setup one of my dirsk so that all users can do what they want with it
[03:18] <andreasw> RadeoN: right now I am trying to waste some time in irc hrhr
[03:19] <DaSkreech> endo602: Do you understand Unix Permisions?
[03:19] <RadeoN> don't say like that
[03:19] <RadeoN> they need help,i need help
[03:19] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I do not think he'd be wanting what he says he want if he did...
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Lynoure: Better to ask
[03:21] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: I'm really curious about what you'll say if the answer is "yes" :)
[03:21] <endo602> DaSkreech, no
[03:21] <RadeoN> hey how can i play mp3 files on Kubuntu?
[03:22] <TehUni> RadeoN: amaroK
[03:22] <TehUni> or one of the many others
[03:22] <Martiini> RadeoN:  make sure you HAVE ALL codecs
[03:22] <andreasw> but you need mp3 support
[03:23] <Martiini> no matter how I edit fstab,, ntfs partitions dont mount
[03:23] <RadeoN> i have installed w32codecs but it didn't work
[03:23] <andreasw> RadeoN: you need libxine-extracodecs
[03:23] <Martiini> RadeoN:  , did u use easyubuntu, automatix
[03:23] <TehUni> the newest version of amarok installs them for you.
[03:23] <stdin> !mp3
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:24] <DaSkreech> endo602: OK Hold on
[03:24] <Martiini> RadeoN:  go to http://ubuntuguide.org/  and start there
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  I take it that the Ubuntu Wiki doesn't havea page on Permissions :)
[03:24] <RadeoN> where i can download libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: not that I know of, but wikipedia does
[03:25] <Jucato> from the repositories.
[03:25] <Jucato> enable the multiverse section
[03:25] <stdin> !info libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <endo602> ill check it out
[03:25] <DaSkreech> stdin: I wanted something more practical than an explanation
[03:25] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[03:25] <Jucato> !multiverse | RadeoN
[03:25] <ubotu> RadeoN: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:25] <DaSkreech> endo602: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
[03:25] <Martiini> hold on with your mp3-s now .., please
[03:25] <endo602> so i chmod the drive?
[03:26] <Xbehave> !firefox
[03:26] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:26] <Martiini> Ive edited my fstab in every possible way .. but ntfs partitions dont mount
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It's ubuntu-motu that controls ubotu ?
[03:26] <Xbehave> erm where is the firefox support channel is it on this irc or do i need to go find thiers?
[03:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. why?
[03:26] <endo602> daskreech can you give me an example out to use this for a folder?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> endo602: Did you read the page I just gave you?
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I wanted to ask if there is a factoid for unix permissions
[03:27] <Jucato> !permissions
[03:27] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Or rather if there should be
[03:27] <DaSkreech> >_<
[03:27] <Jucato> ^^^^^
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Lying Bot!!
[03:28] <DaSkreech> endo602: I'm sorry there is a better page
[03:28] <DaSkreech> endo602: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[03:28] <Martiini> oh great ,, uk and us teenies have conquered the channel
[03:28] <andreasw> Martiini: lol?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Martiini: Can you mount the NTFS manually?
[03:29] <Martiini> they just dont mount
[03:29] <andreasw> Do you get any error message while trying to mount them?
[03:29] <Martiini> .. /dev/hda1	 /media/hda1     ntfs-3g    defaults,auto,locale=et_EE.utf8 0       0
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Martiini: No mount them manually :)
[03:30] <DaSkreech> and that ntfs-3g looks suspect :)
[03:30] <Jucato> !ntfs
[03:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:30] <stdin> !ntfs-3g
[03:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:31] <Martiini> aah, jaa, I CAN mount them manually ... so what gives
[03:33] <ubuntu_> qualche italiano?
[03:33] <stdin> !it
[03:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:33] <ubuntu_> thnks
[03:34] <ubuntu_> che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vge ati
[03:34] <ubuntu_> vga
[03:35] <vge> i think you didint ment me
[03:36] <ubuntu_> che versione posso usare su un hp pavillion dv 6146eu con vga ati... il live cd non carica
[03:37] <stdin> !it | ubuntu_
[03:37] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:40] <DaSkreech> endo602: How are you?
[03:44] <andreasw> hmm music playback stopped again in amarok suddenly anybody else got that bug?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Only when streaming
[03:45] <andreasw> DaSkreech: I have that problem with every sound file but sometimes it takes a view hours until it happens again so its not so easy to reproduce it
[03:46] <DaSkreech> You have a few hours long sound file?
[03:46] <andreasw> DaSkreech: no I mean I can play music for a view hours in amarok with no problem but suddenly it hangs at some files which previously had been played very well
[03:47] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Does restarting the sound file start back sound?
[03:47] <andreasw> DaSkreech: and after that amarok GUI hangs and I have to kill it and restart it to play music again
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Ohhhh
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:47] <andreasw> DaSkreech: I think xine crashed somehow or maybe somthing else
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Sounds like it. Do you have any CLI apps that use xine?
[03:48] <andreasw> CLI?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Command line
[03:50] <stdin> CLI = Command Line Interface (terminal/conso;e)
[03:50] <andreasw> ah ^^
[03:50] <stdin> *console
[03:50] <DaSkreech> endo602: Hello? :)
[03:50] <andreasw> ok we don't use that in german so I had no clue what you mean ^^
[03:51] <andreasw> DaSkreech: No at the moment only amarok uses xine
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:52] <andreasw> I already hat the problem with dapper
[03:52] <andreasw> had
[03:52] <andreasw> arg
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Have you asked in #amarok if anyone has reported something like hat
[03:54] <DaSkreech> It may be a sound driver as well
[03:55] <andreasw> I asked there 4 times and I never got any answer ^^
[03:56] <andreasw> The worst bugs are the ones you can't reproduce every time
[03:57] <andreasw> I also don't understand why Kubuntu changed my xorg.conf yesterday it detected a hardware change but I didn't change my hardware
[03:57] <mowgli_> hi, all, Ubuntu+KDE user here! plug-ins to be able to watch WMV and QUICKTIME movies, anyone can help?
[03:57] <andreasw> strange  ;)
[03:57] <andreasw> mowgli_: w32codecs
[03:57] <Jucato> !wmv | mowgli_
[03:57] <ubotu> mowgli_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <mowgli_> from Synaptic menu?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> mowgli_: read the site :)
[03:58] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[03:58] <Jucato> mowgli_: for WMV and WMA? no. read that site ^^^^
[03:58] <juan> everytime i open a new webpage kubuntu launches a new instance of firefox, the page merges into the existeing firefox but for 5-10 seconds or maybe more theres a new ff in the taskbar, any ideas on how to fix
[04:00] <endo602> DaSkreech, i just read that page
[04:00] <stdin> juan: that's "launch feedback" it's not actually a window
[04:00] <endo602> DaSkreech, seems to be just for files
[04:00] <endo602> not folders
[04:00] <DaSkreech> endo602: Directories are files
[04:00] <endo602> cool
[04:00] <DaSkreech> endo602: do a ls -l on a directory with sub directories
[04:01] <DaSkreech>  you will see it has teh same permissions
[04:01] <juan> stdin: can i get rid of it?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> endo602: The difference is that on a folder x means that you can go into the folder r means that you can see what is inside it and w means you can create new files inside of it
[04:03] <stdin> juan: maybe if you disable it in the menu entry, right click on the Firefox entry in the Kmenu, choose "Edit Item" and deselect the option
[04:04] <DaSkreech> endo602: If that makes sense to you :)
[04:04] <KomiaPoika> how do you undisplay the xdm error console?
[04:04] <endo602> yeah
[04:04] <endo602> how do i make it for all subfolders also?
[04:05] <juan> thx stdin
[04:05] <stdin> np
[04:07] <DaSkreech> endo602: how are you changing the permissons?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> on the command line?
[04:08] <endo602> yeah
[04:09] <hilda> hola
[04:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Blues!!
[04:09] <DaSkreech> endo602: chmod -R
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hey DaSkreech!
[04:10] <DaSkreech> endo602: I should probably teach you man while I'm at it
[04:10] <DaSkreech> endo602: If you have a command you wnat to know more about you can read the Manual on it
[04:10] <DaSkreech> so for chmod try typing man chmod
[04:11] <DaSkreech> You will get a list of all the options etc
[04:11] <endo602> ill doing this \
[04:11] <endo602> but it isnt working
[04:11] <DaSkreech> to exit the manual page press q for <Q>uit
[04:11] <DaSkreech> endo602: You used a Capital R?
[04:11] <endo602> still wont let me create
[04:11] <endo602> can you give me an example
[04:12] <endo602> becaue i am doing this
[04:12] <DaSkreech> endo602: paste the line you are typing so I can see it
[04:12] <endo602> sudo chmod 777 /media/hdd1
[04:13] <DaSkreech> endo602: Ah. What kind of drive is hdd1 ?
[04:13] <Martiini> I have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...
[04:13] <fuel> hi how do i change the resolution of my screen ??? its showing only 1024x768 at top
[04:13] <fuel> i tried the one provided in the control center
[04:13] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[04:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <endo602> ext3
[04:13] <stdin> you can't chmod a filesystem
[04:13] <Martiini> fuel .. go to ubuntuforums.org and read about xorg.conf
[04:13] <fuel> ok
[04:14] <DaSkreech> endo602: Oh.. Hmm
[04:14] <stdin> !xconfig | fuel
[04:14] <ubotu> fuel: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:14] <DaSkreech> endo602: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd1
[04:14] <Martiini> fuel .. there you go
[04:15] <Martiini> I have exatly the same fstab lines for /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda7 .. but only hda1 mounts ... mtab says that both are mounted ...
[04:15] <endo602> still access denied
[04:15] <endo602> when i try and rename folder
[04:15] <stdin> endo602: easiest way is to make a directory on the filesystem and make it writable to all
[04:15] <endo602> root can do it but others cant
[04:15] <endo602> ?
[04:15] <endo602> i did that doo
[04:15] <endo602> too
[04:15] <endo602> didnt work
[04:16] <Martiini> endo602:  have you set correct permissions
[04:16] <DaSkreech> endo602: What are you trying to do make it writeable to all?
[04:16] <stdin> endo602: not on /media/hdd1, on something like /media/hdd1/shares
[04:17] <endo602> i did that
[04:17] <endo602> sudo chmod -R 777 /media/hdd1/share
[04:17] <seaLne> has anyone tried to compile qtopia 4.2 in kubuntu? i'm wondering if i'm missing dependancies
[04:17] <Martiini> endo602: thats google question .. or ubuntuforums.org
[04:18] <endo602> do i have to do anything else to make it work
[04:18] <Martiini> seaLne: doesnt it say if it misses dependencies when you compile
[04:19] <DaSkreech> :-D
[04:19] <seaLne> no its nothing obvious
[04:19] <DaSkreech> Gnewsense is releasing a KDE version
[04:19] <seaLne> cool
[04:19] <endo602> DaSkreech, do i have to check google?
[04:19] <endo602> or when i restart the system will it work
[04:19] <DaSkreech> endo602: does it work now?
[04:20] <sinbad33_> anyone know how well automatix works in kubuntu ??
[04:20] <seaLne> unfortunatly my scroll back has now lost the error as i just tried again
[04:20] <stdin> !automatix
[04:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:20] <DaSkreech> sinbad33_: it has kubuntu support
[04:20] <stdin> sinbad33_: read ^^^
[04:20] <DaSkreech> sinbad33_: Easyubuntu is probably better
[04:20] <stdin> don't use either
[04:21] <DaSkreech> endo602: If it doens't work now then it's probably not going to work when you reboot
[04:22] <Martiini> !WorksForMe
[04:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:22] <Martiini> heh
[04:22] <Martiini> makes sense
[04:22] <endo602> next question
[04:23] <endo602> when i bind a folder
[04:23] <endo602> will it bind subfolders too?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> bind?
[04:23] <stdin> endo602: yep, the directory and everything in it
[04:23] <stdin> endo602: (that isn't a mountpoint)
[04:23] <DaSkreech> stdin: What bind?
[04:24] <endo602> do i have to bind it everytime i change something or is it constatnly updating
[04:24] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's a function of mount, you can "bind" a directory to more than one place
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Interesting
[04:24] <DaSkreech>  so it turns up multiple times in the FHS?
[04:24] <stdin> endo602: it updated automatically
[04:25] <endo602> cool
[04:25] <stdin> DaSkreech: exactly
[04:25] <endo602> can i bind to more than one place?
[04:25] <DaSkreech> stdin: can I put different permissions on different bind/mount points?
[04:26] <Martiini> does it make sense .. that dev/hda1 mounts but hda7 doesnt .. when both have same fstab lines
[04:26] <endo602> for example: --bind /media/hdd1 /home/user/1 and /share/2
[04:26] <stdin> DaSkreech: hmm, don't think so, but I'm not sure. I think it takes the permissions from the parent
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Martiini: Possibly
[04:27] <stdin> usage: mount -o bind /media/hda3 /home/me/music
[04:28] <endo602> -o ?
[04:28] <stdin> -o = options
[04:29] <stdin> "man mount" or "man:/mount" in konqi for more on mount :)
[04:30] <ctqucl> When I use the kate,I use a plugin to autospell the word,my question is how can I insert the word from autospell by keyboard only?
[04:30] <endo602> just a little confused
[04:30] <stdin> you mean use the right click menu from the keyboard ?
[04:31] <ctqucl> no, left click
[04:31] <stdin> left click? no clue
[04:32] <ctqucl> the autospell give me the choose,I want to choose It by keyboard
[04:32] <stdin> yeah, I get the choices with right click
[04:32] <endo602> ok
[04:33] <endo602> from trial and error
[04:33] <endo602> i figure you have to bind all subdirs
[04:33] <ctqucl> o
[04:33] <stdin> only if the subdors are mount points
[04:33] <endo602> ?
[04:33] <endo602> they arent
[04:33] <endo602> but its not working any other way
[04:34] <endo602> only parent is working
[04:34] <ingerasu> sal
[04:35] <stdin> endo602: eg: I have another system on a partition hda3, and I have files I want in /media/hda3/home/me/my-things, so I do "mount -o bind /media/hda3/home/me/my-things /home/me/mythings" and all the subdirs are now in ~/mythings now
[04:36] <endo602>  ok cool
[04:36] <endo602> technical question
[04:37] <endo602> if you you modify ~/mythings will it modify on the other partition/?
[04:37] <sinbad33_> stdin, thx i'll steer clear of automatix for now :)
[04:38] <endo602> if you bind this /media/hda3/home/me/my-things to another location can they both modify it?
[04:38] <stdin> endo602: yes, it's as if it was mounted at ~/mythings
[04:38] <stdin> endo602: yes, again
[04:38] <endo602> for somereason it is not working for me
[04:38] <endo602> i did that and placed it into ~/hdd1
[04:39] <endo602> and didnt show up at other binds
[04:40] <stdin> endo602: It happens when I do it here, I just bound it to another dir and it shows the content
[04:41] <endo602> aha
[04:41] <doudoo> hello all
[04:41] <endo602> well right now most is working
[04:41] <mika__> hi all
[04:41] <ctd_> hi
[04:41] <endo602> i just have get it all straight
[04:41] <doudoo> could somebody help me with two issues?
[04:41] <endo602> stdin
[04:41] <endo602> can i pm
[04:41] <endo602> ?
[04:42] <DaSkreech> !ask
[04:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <doudoo> oki
[04:42] <doudoo> first
[04:42] <ctqucl> o enter key
[04:42] <doudoo> i feel that my laptop is booting really slow
[04:43] <doudoo> and i think it's slowing down while checking network connection
[04:43] <DaSkreech> How slow is it booting?
[04:43] <gdiebel> doudoo: using NetworkManager?
[04:43] <doudoo> 2min
[04:43] <sinbad33_> case o teh slowy lapbooty bluesss
[04:43] <doudoo> with a core 2 duo
[04:43] <doudoo> 2GHz
[04:43] <doudoo> :)
[04:43] <DaSkreech> And which Kubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <doudoo> edgy
[04:44] <gdiebel> doudoo: I have the same speed processor on my laptop. takes ~40 secs for full boot
[04:44] <Pensacola> how to get a truly transparent konsole?
[04:45] <doudoo> on the image bar progress in boot
[04:45] <doudoo> it's stop after the forth bar
[04:45] <doudoo> for a while and then restart quiet quick
[04:45] <ctd_> Guys , what is the process to change the default browser ?
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> Pensacola, i dont this that is possible without something like xgl / compiz
[04:46] <gdiebel> doudoo: using NetworkManager? or using proprietary video? which wireless chipset?
[04:46] <Pensacola> ok thx
[04:47] <doudoo> yes i'm using network manager and latest nvidia driver for my quadro nvs and my wireless chip is a intel 3945abg
[04:47] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: kde menu, system settings, default application, browser
[04:47] <doudoo> sorry i'm not using network manager
[04:47] <doudoo> but wlassistant
[04:49] <gdiebel> doodou: post your dmesg to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:49] <ctd_> thanks Mineur.
[04:49] <doodou> gdiebel : can I PM you ?
[04:49] <mineur[studying] > no problem
[04:49] <gdiebel> doodou: go ahead
[04:52] <doodou> /info
[04:53] <doodou> gdiebel : dont you see my pm?
[04:55] <Valmarko> I whish I could find a program like DVDshrink or DVD Decrypter :)
[04:55] <Authority> what is the kubuntu laptop power manager program called?
[04:56] <Valmarko> Perhaps using emulation ?
[04:56] <Minataku> Valmarko: libdvdcss
[04:56] <Minataku> Or something like that
[04:57] <Valmarko> Ok but... if I wish to copy a movie to HD... what program should I use ?
[04:57] <mineur[studying] > do the colors of your nicks in this window have a special meaning?
[04:58] <mineur[studying] > using Konversation bw :)
[04:58] <mineur[studying] > btw
[04:58] <stdin> no, konversation just uses them to look pretty :P
[04:58] <stdin> and you can turn it off
[04:58] <Authority> mineur[studying] : helps you differentiate between speakers
[04:59] <Minataku> Valmarko: I'm assuming you're making your legal backup copy provided for you via fair use laws? :3
[04:59] <mineur[studying] > ok, I was wondering.... :) because I didn't see any significant difference lol
[04:59] <mineur[studying] > nah it's ok, it can stay this way, but if it has any real use... I'd like to know :)
[05:00] <Valmarko> I would like to run a movie from Hard disk, for example. Is there a program that can make a copy of a encrypted movie ?
[05:00] <mineur[studying] > ripdvd
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > or dvdrip not sure
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > hang on lol
[05:01] <Minataku> I know there are I just don't know of any
[05:01] <Minataku> lol
[05:01] <mineur[studying] > dvdrip :)
[05:01] <Minataku> Why rip it to the HDD anyway?
[05:01] <Minataku> You've got it on the DVD just watch it from that and save 3 or 4GB
[05:01] <Valmarko> Umm... sometimes it's useful
[05:02] <stdin> or VLC
[05:02] <mineur[studying] > copying borrowed and rented movies eh :p
[05:02] <stdin> or dd could work :P
[05:02] <ctd_> How to read/modify the region code on the DVD drive ?
[05:02] <Valmarko> lol
[05:02] <Valmarko> regionset
[05:02] <Minataku> ctd_: Don't bother, leave it at 1 and use libdvdcss
[05:02] <Minataku> You're only allowed so many changes via HW anyway
[05:02] <cloakable> :p
[05:03] <ctd_> How to get libdvdcss ?
[05:03] <Minataku> Hey, interoperability (as of this moment, anyway) is provisioned in the DMCA
[05:03] <Minataku> If they won't let it work on Linux, we're allowed to make it work
[05:03] <mineur[studying] > mostly 5 changes, but some drivers allow you to flash them... then you can change it again for 5 times.... but just leave it at 1 :)
[05:03] <Valmarko> is there a way to unpack rpm files ?
[05:04] <stdin> !rpm
[05:04] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > !urpmi
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urpmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > !urpme
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about urpme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <mineur[studying] > hmm ok not then :)
[05:04] <ctd_> libdvdcss ?
[05:04] <Valmarko> alien... but it's dangerous... better nor try
[05:04] <Minataku> !libdvdcss
[05:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:05] <mineur[studying] > why you want to unpack rpm's in the first place???
[05:05] <stdin> Valmarko: you can use alien to make a tar.gz of the rpm, then unpack that
[05:05] <Minataku> I say ignore any scary legal warnings, more than likely if they've targeted you by now you're already screwed anyway
[05:05] <Valmarko> ok. tnks
[05:06] <Minataku> Since according to my house rep I oppose DRM and anti-fair use for no reason other than I'm a lousy theif
[05:06] <Valmarko> ctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.10
[05:06] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats here is all the info for dvd, mp3 and any other restricted format you might want
[05:06] <dope> what's the difference between port forwarding and port triggering
[05:07] <mineur[studying] > port triggering is just an on and off switch for port forwarding
[05:07] <mineur[studying] > you trigger a certain port... and this event will cause another port to open
[05:08] <dope> hmm
[05:08] <ctd_> Valmarko , where do I get libdvdread3 ?
[05:08] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: check the link I gave you
[05:08] <stdin> !info libdvdread3
[05:08] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[05:09] <Valmarko> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3. Enable Universe if necessary. Backports too
[05:09] <mineur[studying] > brb
[05:09] <ctd_> thanks folks. lemme try this.
[05:09] <sinbad33_> anyone know if Firestarter firewall is any good ??
[05:09] <Minataku> mineur[studying] : He wants it done the Windows way, it seems, "Don't give me directions just give me what I want"
[05:09] <Valmarko> bahh... guarddog is the one
[05:09] <mothy> hey does anyone use beryl with kubuntu?
[05:10] <Valmarko> why beryl. kde is already an eye-candy :)
[05:10] <mothy> ehh
[05:10] <Valmarko> ;)
[05:10] <Minataku> If my eyes had teeth, KDE would make them all scummy and plaquey
[05:11] <Minataku> Still better than Vista
[05:11] <mineur[studying] > Minataku: seems so, I wonder why I'm doing all the googling for someone else... think I'm gonna ask fees for it :p
[05:11] <Minataku> Which would immediately rot them right out
[05:11] <mothy> i can't get beryl to work with the multiple desktop thingy in the toolbar
[05:11] <mothy> the windows dont span over it correctly
[05:11] <Valmarko> well, kde is better loojing then gnome. My opinion, ...
[05:11] <mothy> works fine in gnome
[05:11] <Minataku> GNOME is a festering pile of crap that nobody should ever use in any circumstance
[05:12] <Minataku> IMO, anyway
[05:12] <ctd_> libdvdread3 is already the newest version.
[05:12] <ctd_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:12] <DaSkreech> ctd_: Apt-get it
[05:12] <mothy> wow thats nice
[05:12] <mothy> this channel rulz
[05:12] <Valmarko> ctd_, get libdvdread3 and then : sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh     if you have version 6.10
[05:12] <arrautza> hi
[05:13] <mineur[studying] > ctd_: dude, play dvd's follow these steps..... one click further then the previous link I gave you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:13] <ctd_> so do you mean I just run sudo apt-get or something
[05:13] <ctd_> ok ok , i will RTFM
[05:13] <Minataku> ctd_: Since you already have libdvdread3
[05:13] <arrautza> where & how can i get/install wine?
[05:13] <Minataku> sudo  /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:13] <Minataku> !wine
[05:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:13] <mineur[studying] > it's not even the manual.... it's copy/paste 2 commands and you're done :)
[05:14] <sinbad33_> can anyone recommend a cd/dvd burning program for use with kubuntu ??
[05:14] <Minataku> k3b
[05:14] <ctd_> :) thx
[05:14] <mineur[studying] > k3b
[05:14] <Minataku> !k3b | sinbad33_
[05:14] <ubotu> sinbad33_: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:14] <Minataku> Not that you should be USING GNOME
[05:14] <Minataku> ;3
[05:14] <sinbad33_> ohh goody thx MinMin
[05:14] <Minataku> XD
[05:14] <Valmarko> Minataku, great jog ! :)
[05:14] <mineur[studying] > seems that everyone agrees on k3b :)
[05:14] <Valmarko> job
[05:14] <Minataku> Valmarko: And I'm a Gentoo user, not a Kubuntu user
[05:14] <Minataku> lol
[05:14] <DaSkreech> cdrdao :)
[05:15] <Minataku> I just came in here because a friend tipped me off to someone who had free stuff to give away XD
[05:15] <Valmarko> That's why you're soo fast
[05:15] <arrautza> thnk
[05:15] <Minataku> Myself, I use cdrecord to burn CD/DVDs, or rather soon it's FOSS replacement
[05:15] <mineur[studying] > I don't have enough patience to compile my stuff :d
[05:16] <Minataku> Since the original cdrecord dev came down with a case of acute assholism
[05:16] <mineur[studying] > lol
[05:16] <sinbad33_>   ..,~~c=;3
[05:16] <Valmarko> neither I. Even if I wanted...
[05:17] <Minataku> Sure it's his right to close up his code and make it non-free... but then it's OUR right to flip him off, tell him to go to hell then fork his code from the last free version and carry on without him :D
[05:17] <sinbad33_> Min, right on!
[05:17] <Minataku> :3
[05:18] <sinbad33_> Min speaks *big* troof
[05:18] <sinbad33_> trooth
[05:18] <jontec> is there anyway to have dpkg catch if the kubuntu-desktop package is removed and abort installation?
[05:18] <jontec> installation/removal of whatever is causing that...
[05:19] <sinbad33_> Minataku, do u use a firewall with kubuntu yet ?
[05:19] <Minataku> jontec: Got a case of retard dependencies?
[05:19] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I use a hardware firewall
[05:19] <Minataku> Namely, a very tight-assed router
[05:20] <sinbad33_> ahh ok which software fw wud u recommend ?
[05:20] <Minataku> Personally, I wouldn't recommend a software firewall
[05:20] <bifi> hi
[05:20] <Minataku> As for actually answering the question, I can't
[05:20] <jontec> Minataku: well I have a friend who did it... and I just about did it (but I always examine the details of the dpkg part from in adept), it'd just be really nice :D so yeah, retard dependencies
[05:20] <arrautza> which is the official repository of wine??
[05:20] <Minataku> Since I've never used a software firewall
[05:20] <Minataku> lol
[05:21] <bifi> can i ask you a question?
[05:21] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I'd say wait around for someone else to be able to answer XD
[05:21] <DaSkreech> arrautza: It's on thier site wine HQ
[05:21] <Minataku> Or I can try this
[05:21] <Minataku> !firewall
[05:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:21] <Minataku> There ya go!
[05:21] <arrautza> the link you gve gives me only the unofficial
[05:21] <ctd_> !info
[05:21] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[05:21] <jontec> !ask | bifi
[05:21] <ubotu> bifi: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:21] <Minataku> lol
[05:21] <arrautza> thnk
[05:22] <bifi> ehm i instaled the latest nvidia driver and tried to run call of duty 1.the game crashes and i get a opengl error
[05:22] <bifi> what can i do?
[05:22] <Minataku> sinbad33_: I'd suggest getting a cheap thrift-store computer and making it into an OpenBSD firewall but that's a bit advanced
[05:22] <Minataku> (Even for myself)
[05:22] <Minataku> XD
[05:22] <fdoving> Minataku: lots of 'hardware' firewalls are small linux/bsd firewalls. there is no reason a 'hardware' firewall would be better than a 'software' one.. it simply just occupies less space. :)
[05:23] <elias_> how to get the best GL performance for games like gltron assuming I have AIGLX with nvidia on EDGY?
[05:23] <Minataku> fdoving: Ah, well I do speak from an intranet perspective
[05:23] <Minataku> I have multiple systems hooked up via my router
[05:23] <ctd_> Any software that can ignore read errors on scratched DVDs ?
[05:23] <Minataku> So a hardware firewall via the router just makes sense
[05:23] <bifi> i wanna know if there is a way to update/optimize opengl
[05:23] <ctd_> !xresprobe
[05:24] <ubotu> xresprobe: X Resolution Probe. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.24 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:24] <Minataku> !opengl
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Minataku> What?!
[05:24] <bifi> :/
[05:24] <Minataku> Bad bot, no cookie
[05:24] <Minataku> !nvidia
[05:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <Minataku> Hm, that doesn't help...
[05:24] <Minataku> !gl
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Minataku> !glx
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Minataku> Bah
[05:25] <bifi> i thought opengl will be instaled when i intsal the latets driver but call of duty still crashes
[05:25] <fdoving> !fishing
[05:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:25] <Minataku> bifi: What's the specific error?
[05:25] <bifi> could not load open gl subsystem
[05:25] <bifi> or something
[05:25] <Minataku> I'm not abusing the bot, I'm trying to see if it has any information
[05:25] <Minataku> bifi: Try to run "glxgears"
[05:25] <Minataku> Tell me what that does
[05:26] <bifi> howto?
[05:26] <Minataku> bifi: Open a terminal and type glxgears then hit enter
[05:26] <bifi> ok ;)
[05:27] <bifi> have to go to my linux mashine and try it
[05:27] <bifi> brb
[05:27] <stefan> does someone know what I have to add website conf that I have another charset as utf8
[05:27] <stefan> what i have to add
[05:27] <stefan> I find only thing for whole server but I need it foe one website
[05:28] <stefan> can someone help?
[05:28] <ctd_> Thanks everyone , now I can play European and US DVDs both without changing the region code. KUTGW
[05:28] <ctd_> Bye
[05:29] <mineur[studying] > finally read the manual eh :p
[05:29] <elias_> ubotu: found this: By default Composite is turned on and this will prevent OpenGL from working.
[05:29] <blue|palm> Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:29] <elias_> ubotu: do you know, is there any way to run aiglx beryl effects without compositing on?
[05:29] <dope> you know what would cause a major increase in linux users?
[05:29] <stefan> !addcharset
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addcharset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <sinbad33_> wat??
[05:29] <blue|palm> games on linux
[05:29] <dope> better support for high end games
[05:30] <blue|palm> hehe
[05:30] <dope> :)
[05:30] <endo602> how does binding work with disk space?
[05:30] <sinbad33_> !mad increase in linux users
[05:30] <dope> works pretty good
[05:30] <endo602> :)
[05:30] <bifi> Minataku may i can comeback later?(about 2 hours) i wanna instal kubuntu on this pc
[05:30] <endo602> keeps saying my drive is full
[05:30] <blue|palm> Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:30] <sinbad33_> ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)  <<--  ??
[05:30] <endo602> but it isnt
[05:30] <endo602> how does it work exactly
[05:30] <Minataku> bifi: Sure
[05:30] <bifi> ok
[05:31] <bifi> well i dl the iso file(hope 6.06 is tha latest version) and come back after intaling
[05:31] <blue|palm> 6.10 latest
[05:32] <endo602> dope, how does the disk space work with binding
[05:32] <bifi> instal n update blah
[05:32] <bifi> :)
[05:32] <dope> no idea what binding is, sorry
[05:32] <endo602> the bindined drive doesnt get the bits of info right?
[05:32] <blue|palm> somebody Help with installation needed!!! installed kubuntu amd64 (edgy) and installation finished successfully... Kubuntu wont boot however, grub recognizes both it and winxp x64
[05:32] <endo602> just the source
[05:32] <borie> do u have an asus wl-107G wifi card, & do u use WPA ? i can't manage to connect with WPA with knetworkmanager or wpasupplicant...
[05:32] <dope> sudo apt-get install windowsxp
[05:32] <endo602> :)
[05:32] <borie> my AP is WPA (TKIP + AES)
[05:32] <dope> i'm actually on xp right now but shhhh don't let anyone know
[05:32] <fdoving> endo602: the bound device will report exactly the same as teh source of the bind.
[05:33] <endo602> ouch
[05:33] <endo602> that is no good
[05:33] <endo602> it will take up disc space then
[05:33] <blue|palm> im on xp.... coz i cant get kubuntu to boot :(
[05:33] <fdoving> endo602: no it won't.
[05:33] <endo602> its saying that it does
[05:33] <endo602> keeps on saying diskspace full
[05:34] <dope> blue|palm: why can't you get it to boot?
[05:34] <dope> oh amd64
[05:35] <endo602> how do i move files to a different device?
[05:35] <dope> i'd say just go with the 32 bit one
[05:35] <dope> that's what i did
[05:35] <blue|palm> it installs succesfully... but when you remove the live cd and try to boot from disk then nothing happens
[05:35] <sinbad33_> rock rock rocK  this channel   r o c k s
[05:35] <endo602> i mounted the device
[05:35] <blue|palm> oh
[05:35] <blue|palm> and that worked :)
[05:35] <endo602> and when i move the mount
[05:35] <endo602> seems to be filling up the source drive
[05:35] <dope> nothing happens? the bootloader doesn't come up?
[05:35] <blue|palm> no, grub pops up and gives me the correct options, but when i select kubuntu then nothing happens
[05:36] <dope> screen is just black?
[05:36] <fdoving> endo602: example: i make /bind and /boot/bind, then i bind /bind to /boot/bind. df -ah shows that /boot/bind has the same free space as /bind
[05:36] <blue|palm> well a blue "KUBUNTU" pops up and then nothing happens :(
[05:36] <blue|palm> ive left it for a looong time
[05:36] <dope> try reinstalling
[05:36] <dope> or install the 32 bit one
[05:36] <blue|palm> tried that
[05:36] <blue|palm> oh ok
[05:36] <endo602> this is weird
[05:36] <blue|palm> What does happen is that it goes to the shell
[05:37] <dope> i just stuck with the 32bit one cause people said it'd cause less trouble with compatible apps
[05:37] <endo602> see i mounted my hdd2
[05:37] <blue|palm> Busybox
[05:37] <endo602> and then bound hdd2 to hdd1/2
[05:37] <endo602> now hdd1 says its full
[05:37] <blue|palm> and it says "cant access tty; jobcontrol turned off"
[05:37] <endo602> but all the information is on hdd2
[05:37] <dope> never seen that
[05:37] <dope> try the 32bit one :)
[05:37] <blue|palm> ill try the 32 bit one
[05:38] <blue|palm> is it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?
[05:39] <endo602> fdoving
[05:39] <endo602> you get that?
[05:40] <blue|palm> whats the general opinion on kubuntu vs openSUSE?
[05:40] <fdoving> endo602: hmm.. what's the command you use to bind?
[05:40] <endo602> mount --bind
[05:40] <fdoving> endo602: strange. works for me.
[05:42] <parsek> Is it still ok to install the old kubuntu 5.10, i have an odd video problem with these newer ones and i cant figure it out, worked fine with 5.10, so is there any reason i should not istall 5.10??
[05:43] <blue|palm> is it better to dload ubuntu and then install kde? or go kubuntu?
[05:43] <Lynoure> blue|palm: If you know you want KDE, Kubuntu leaves you with less things you do not need or want
[05:43] <blue|palm> im not sure to be honest
[05:44] <parsek> is there any reason "why" i should not...
[05:44] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Not sure that you want KDE or not sure of what I said?
[05:44] <blue|palm> not sure if i want to use kde
[05:44] <blue|palm> ive never used it seriously before...
[05:45] <Jucato> is there a way I can add or make a new Paper Size to the choices in kprinter? or... how do I print with a custom paper size?
[05:45] <dope> it's fairly simple and straight forward
[05:45] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Then get ubuntu + kubuntu-desktop   or the other way around
[05:45] <blue|palm> oh... i didnt know that you can go the otherway round...
[05:45] <Lynoure> blue|palm: you can get gnome for kubuntu too, it's not like you are bound for life :)
[05:45] <blue|palm> lol, thanks :)
[05:46] <Lynoure> blue|palm: You use a Palm device, by any chance?
[05:46] <blue|palm> no, why?
[05:46] <parsek> Is there any reason why I shouldnt install the 5.10 version???? (with 6.06 or 6.10 i have a video bug, what i cant work out)
[05:46] <fdoving> parsek: 5.10 will reach end-of-life (end of support and security updates) in few months.
[05:46] <Lynoure> blue|palm: Just guessing based on the nick.
[05:46] <blue|palm> oh... theres a really funny reason for the nick :)
[05:47] <blue|palm> but it has nothing to do with palm tops at all
[05:47] <Lynoure> blue|palm: :)
[05:47] <blue|palm> I never saw it like that...
[05:47] <blue|palm> Is adapt an update utility?
[05:47] <blue|palm> for the os itself as well?
[05:48] <cloakable> blue|palm: you mean adept?
[05:48] <Lynoure> blue|palm: yes and no, but if you prefer the commandline tools, those are mostly fine too.
[05:48] <blue|palm> thanks
[05:48] <Jucato> adept_updater, adept_notifier, adept_installer, adept_manager
[05:48] <parsek> Is there any way to first intall 5.10 and then upgrade to 6.10 or 6.06 and still keep the old video driver stuff??? (xorg.conf anf all those kinds of things)
[05:49] <parsek> *and
[05:49] <Lynoure> blue|palm: at least from dapper to edgy, it was not good for upgrading to edgy and one had to use commandline tools for that. Maybe this has changed in Edgy
[05:49] <kjdis> Anyone know of any quirks when installing nvidia binary drivers on Kubuntu?  I have done this on Debian, and I also did it back on Kubuntu 5.10, but on this fresh install I just can't get them to install, I am using the module assistant
[05:50] <kjdis> "nvidia" is never available in the list of drivers for X, and if I modprobe -v nvidia, I get "error installing", however I can directly insmod it, and the kernel messages show it's installed, I don't get it
[05:51] <manu_> hi everybody
[05:51] <blue|palm> thanks everyone, cya
[05:53] <manu_> i just wanted to know with which tool i can make easily backups, some time ago i used rdiff-backup and saved whole partitions, but i only want to save important files like the "look and feel" (kde) and own installed programs (with aptitude and without apt)
[05:53] <manu_> i dont have so many space for saving everytime some gig for partitions^^
[05:54] <fdoving> manu_: have you tried 'keep' ?
[05:54] <fdoving> !away > hawai`i
[05:57] <Pensacola> what folder does kubuntu read it's screensavers from?
[05:58] <manu_> fdoving: no but i have seen it in the menu, do you know whre i can find a detailed howto in german?
[05:59] <peder_> hail hitler
[05:59] <fdoving> manu_: not sure about german.. i'll check.
[05:59] <fdoving> peder_: not fun, behave please.
[05:59] <peder_> okey sorry
[06:01] <Pensacola> I have a binary for a cool screensaver but no idea where to put it :s
[06:01] <manu_> thx fdoving :)
[06:06] <peder_> cant you read an english manual?
[06:06] <hatta> english comes with a manual?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Pensacola,  a binary? from where?
[06:07] <Pensacola> I compiled it :)
[06:07] <Pensacola> but now I don't know where to put it
[06:07] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/    - what is this?
[06:08] <n0ne> !savage
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about savage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <fdoving> manu_: can't find a manual even in english.
[06:09] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ pls help
[06:09] <manu_> peder_: i can read english but i fell saver in english ;)
[06:09] <manu_> *feel
[06:10] <fdoving> n0ne: what are you trying to do when you get this error?
[06:10] <n0ne> i'm trying to play Savage
[06:10] <manu_> fdoving: another question i get an GPG error while updateing with apt-get....what could be wrong, i think last update was a week ago (had to do much)
[06:11] <fdoving> manu_: are you using 3rd party repositories?
[06:11] <n0ne> fdoving, have any ideas?
[06:11] <manu_> fdoving: only wine ones, and they are for ubuntu, i show you the line
[06:12] <fdoving> n0ne: no, i don't even know what Savage is.
[06:12] <manu_> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht geprft werden weil der zugehrige ffentliche Schlssel nicht zur Verfgung steht: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[06:12] <manu_> W: Sie mchten vielleicht apt-get update aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lsen
, it's a game
[06:12] <manu_> its in german, but perhaps you know it because of the syntax of the sentences
[06:12] <manu_> ^^
[06:12] <andreasw> hi
[06:13] <fdoving> manu_: that's the problem then. you didn't import the gpg key used to signe the wine archive packages.
[06:13] <manu_> fdoving: but i made also updates without any error (i think, its some days ago)
[06:14] <manu_> fdoving: how to solve the problem? and where can i read something about GPG....enlish link deasnt matter
[06:14] <fdoving> manu_: i'd go back to the site where you found the wine repository, they probably have a hotwo to add the key to your key-ring.
[06:15] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)
[06:15] <manu_> fdoving: thx i'll look for it
[06:16] <manu_> another little question on german ubuntu site (ubuntuusers.de) they wrote about  2 big bugs in openoffice (word doc files) and acrobat reader plugin for firefox, do you know something about it?
[06:17] <fdoving> sorry, i don't use firefox, nor do i use openoffice much.
[06:17] <Tm_T> Kpdf <3
[06:17] <fdoving> kpdf with the poppler patches is.. not very good at printing.
[06:18] <Tm_T> Dunno, don't have printer here atm.
[06:18] <mineur[studying] > openoffice crashes when you click on an image or something... I think I read that somewhere.... but on my laptop here I don't use openoffice that much
[06:19] <mineur[studying] > so never tried it :)
[06:19] <mineur[studying] > hmm I'm not studying anymore :)
[06:20] <parsek> Can anybody tell me how can i get the toolbars back, i took them somehow off (fullscreen mode?) and i dont know what button to press to get them back???
[06:20] <parsek> KPDF
[06:21] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/
[06:21] <parsek> heh, i forgot to say that, so in kpdf
[06:21] <mineur> parsek: ctrl + m
[06:22] <fdoving> or ctrl+shift+f
[06:22] <fdoving> (that is to exit fullscreen mode).
[06:22] <parsek> THX, ctrl+ m worked, then i just exited the fulscreen mode
[06:22] <mineur> btw it's a kde feature to hide the menubar :)
[06:22] <mineur> you can do that in any app :)
[06:23] <parsek> good to know
[06:23] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1693/ <- pls help me :)
[06:23] <mineur> I'm off for dinner
[06:24] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  you are trying to run it as root when you are logged in as user or somthing. i am guessing
 yea, running as a root in kde
[06:24] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  thats your problem then.
 why? maybe u'll explain me?
[06:25] <Valmarko> I've just installed alien but I dont know if I'm using it correctly. Well, the program made a deb package and I installed the application with no errors. the problem is : the system cant open it. The little icon rotates, rotates and... nothing
[06:25] <Dr_willis> well #1 - why would you run a game as root.. #2 - the root user dosent have permission to access the desktop (is why its not working)
[06:25] <fdoving> n0ne: by default only the user running the graphical environment is allowed to connect to it (start applications).
[06:25] <Dr_willis> n0ne,  thats what kdesu, or sux, or some other tools are used for.
[06:26] <fdoving> n0ne: you can also give root permission to connect to the graphical environment, if you really want to run the game as root, tip 4 at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FrodeDoeving/Tips
[06:27] <n0ne> u mean i have to run it not as a root?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> why would you want to run it as root...
[06:27] <Dr_willis> unless you need it as a server...
[06:28] <Dr_willis> i installed savage in my users home dir. its a nifty little game.. gets a little annoying at times.
[06:28] <n0ne> thx, i'll try it now
[06:28] <andreasw> !rm
[06:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:29] <BluesKaj> hey gents , i installed nicotine , but it won't launch unless i use the cd to file cmd and./nicotine to launch ...what am I missing in the install?
[06:29] <andreasw> !real media
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Valmarko> Does the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?
[06:29] <andreasw> I have installed w32codecs but amarok can't stream real media files any idea?
[06:29] <BluesKaj> !realplayer
[06:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <Valmarko> maybe libxine-extracodecs ?
[06:30] <andreasw> Already installed + w32codecs
[06:30] <andreasw> your pages only say the same
[06:31] <BluesKaj> maybe opening and config amarok ?
[06:32] <andreasw> and where should I config real media in amarok?
[06:33] <andreasw> It normally should play everything I have a codec for
[06:33] <kjdis> Has anyone used the "Debian" method with module assistant to install nvidia drivers?
[06:34] <Valmarko> Perhaps some conflict with other plugin already installed. Firefox couldnt run mozzila-mplayer because there was already totem-gstreamer. I had to uninstall it to activate mozilla-mplayer
[06:35] <fdoving> BluesKaj:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[06:35] <Valmarko> Does the command alien require some special parameter before the rpm file ?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> thx fdoving , but Iwas trying to help andreasw...not a realplayer fan , even in windows :)
[06:36] <n0ne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ now i have this error with Savage :(
[06:36] <andreasw> Valmarko: install fakeroot and put that in front of the command
[06:37] <guillaume> hi all
[06:37] <manu_> fdoving: which email client do you use?
[06:37] <manu_> hi guillaume
[06:37] <Valmarko> ? like... alien fakeroot ?
[06:37] <guillaume> http://www.xnxx.com/
[06:37] <andreasw> BluesKaj: well some websites require realplayer so it's not a question if you are a fan or not ^^
[06:37] <guillaume> enjoy yourself
[06:37] <andreasw> Valmarko: fakeroot alien foo.rpm
[06:37] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)
[06:37] <Valmarko> ok. tnks andreasw
[06:38] <azerty> d
[06:38] <BluesKaj> well, mplayer plugin takes care of those sites for me , fdoving :)
[06:38] <fdoving> manu_: i use mailody.
[06:39] <manu_> fdoving: dont know it whats your opinion about kmail (kubuntu) and thunderbird?
[06:39] <fdoving> manu_: i like kmail better than tunderbird.
[06:40] <fdoving> manu_: but i'm not sure you do, you'll have to test them both to find out which of them you like best :)
[06:40] <manu_> fdoving: i used on kanotix thunderbird and liked it, kmail is allready installed and i would use it but i want to add more emails in one account
[06:40] <Hawai`i> ive installed kubuntu and i installed proftpd to share files with friends, but my logs are filling up with trouble makers and i was wondering if theres any way to block the ip
[06:41] <malik_> hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?
[06:41] <n0ne> i'm trying to play game Savage and have this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1696/ <- pls help me :)
[06:42] <fdoving> manu_: you can add more identities in kmail too. (and in mailody)
[06:43] <malik_> hi......i am having crashes with firefox which i downloaded from ubuntu repos....i am using kubuntu edgy .....does any one have any suggestions or any one have same problem?
[06:43] <Xera> n0ne: you need to install your graphics card drivers
 thx
[06:44] <Xera> just do a google search for "<name of your card> ubuntu"
[06:44] <manu_> fdoving: afaik you can add to one identity in thunderbird more email adresses have i to change to another identity in kmail?
[06:44] <Xera> someone will have made a tutorial, i bet ;p
[06:45] <fdoving> manu_: you can add one pop3/imap account, and multiple identities / e-mail addresses, yes.
[06:45] <fdoving> bbl food.
[06:45] <malik_> is there any work around for yahoo to accessed by via pop by Kmail?
[06:48] <manu_> thx fdoving
[06:49] <FedeRcio> hola
[06:49] <Valmarko> alien 'tranlated' a rpm file to deb package. I used fakeroot. The application is installed but doesnt run. Mybe some apps from rpm packages dont run in debian systems ?
[06:51] <andreasw> Valmarko: yes that can happen
[06:52] <andreasw> Valmarko: for example java.rpm from sun won't work if you install it with alien
[06:52] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[06:52] <Valmarko> I was soo happy because i found dvdshrink for linux... I guess I'll have to use wine
[06:53] <andreasw> Valmarko: I thought DVDschrink is only available for windows
[06:53] <freshburn> could some one afford me some newb help plz
[06:54] <freshburn> concerning adept sources and BREAK(isntall) messages
[06:54] <freshburn> ive been googling for 3 days now and im getting nowhere, i run kubuntu edgy
[06:55] <Valmarko> I found a portuguese site with the package. http://contribware.caixamagica.pt/repository/contribution.2005-11-20.6106706006
[06:56] <Martiini> freshburn:  shoot .. I'll do my best
[06:56] <Martiini> freshburn: Have you broken your kubuntu?
[06:56] <freshburn> i installed edgy from live cd added universe and multiverse repos and a fouple that a website suggested
[06:57] <freshburn> i allowed adept to update like 90 packages overnight and now no matter which package i "Request install" adept tells me BREAK(install)
[06:57] <freshburn> is that the dangers of adding strange repos? should i just stick to universe and multiverse and the default repos?
[06:58] <freshburn> the ones the website suggested were something free non-free but im not exactly sure as ive booted back to Xp for now
[06:58] <freshburn> my wireless BCM9430 is not working either for now
[06:59] <freshburn> but thats a differet issue
[06:59] <kkosmo> hi somone i type cfdisk in kubuntu and i get
[06:59] <Martiini> dpkg -i --force-..... is used for forcing installing packages into broken system
[06:59] <kkosmo> fatal eroer cant open disk drive
[07:00] <Martiini> freshburn: apt-get -f install works after you've used dpkg to force packages which dont install
[07:00] <longbean> freshburn: if you go adding non-standard repos then this is a risk you face i think, yeah
[07:01] <freshburn> to be honest i noticed when i tried to install gnome-games packages and it said break which made me wonder WTF would a game break in my system but now every package i request install says that
[07:02] <kkosmo> when i type cfdisk in linux i get
[07:02] <kkosmo>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[07:02] <kkosmo>  Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:02] <kkosmo>  what i need to do
[07:02] <freshburn> so could someone give me the like repo safe lecture or something? use only defaults? are universe and multiverse safe? does it make a difference if i run edgy? what the heck are the differences i.e. what does universe and multiverse even mean?
[07:03] <freshburn> someone suggested to never use adept and try synaptic instead
[07:03] <longbean> freshburn: synaptic'll probably give you a more informative error message, at any rate...
[07:03] <manchicken> freshburn: Adept is fine.
[07:03] <manchicken> I use it all the time.
[07:03] <manchicken> No problems.
[07:04] <Martiini> freshburn: www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  ... ubuntuforums.org .. etc .. I'll find u a page to use for fixing your broken system
[07:04] <Jucato> manchicken: "no problems" really? :P
[07:04] <manchicken> Jucato: Not when I'm using it.  Only when I'm hacking it ;)
[07:04] <Jucato> lol :)
[07:04] <freshburn> so by adding the universe and multiverse repos i was ok but when i added the one that said contains some comm. software (it was realplayer and opera and something else) i let it d/l something that stops me from installing packages?
[07:05] <Jucato> manchicken: the reason why you're hacking it then... :P
[07:05] <kkosmo> hi somone can help me with my problem
[07:05] <kkosmo> ?
[07:05] <Jucato> !someone
[07:05] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:05] <kkosmo> when i type cfdisk i get
[07:05] <kkosmo>  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[07:05] <kkosmo>  Press any key to exit cfdisk
[07:05] <kkosmo>  what i need to do
[07:06] <longbean> well, multiverse repo should already contain opera and realplayer
[07:06] <kkosmo> question
[07:06] <Xera> kkosmo: run it as r00t
[07:06] <jatos> hey
[07:06] <Xera> lol
[07:06] <kkosmo> lol
[07:06] <jatos> does anyone how I could recover a parition table deleted by DOS 6.22 setup?
[07:07] <jatos> nothing actually been written onto the hard disk after DOS setup got to it
[07:07] <freshburn> whats is wierd is this is only happening on my laptop and when i changed sources.lst i changed it on my desktop too (almost identical hardware and edgy) but everything is still fine on it isntalled gnome games and a bunch of other stuff np
[07:08] <freshburn> jatos what was previously the system on HD
[07:09] <longbean> freshburn: did you actually try to install an app from an unofficial repo?
[07:09] <jatos> a mix of XP and ubuntu, XP on the first 20gb hardisk, I had another logical partition,l and after that a SWAP and reiserFS partition belonging to DOS
[07:09] <freshburn> no all i did was add them to the sources.lst and adept updated like 90 packages but it reported 90 pckgs to be updated before i changed sources.lst too
[07:09] <jatos> *not dos, Ubuntu
[07:10] <freshburn> no new installs tho only updated packages
[07:10] <freshburn> jatos use a win98 boot disk get a dos prmpt and FDISK /mbr
[07:11] <freshburn> should take care of ya
[07:11] <Martiini> freshburn:  you can look at this shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
[07:11] <jatos> cheers
[07:11] <freshburn> get bootdisk from bootdisks.com
[07:11] <freshburn> or boot-disk.com or something
[07:11] <jatos> I can get hold of the boot disks easily enough...
[07:11] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:11] <freshburn> ty martiini
[07:12] <freshburn> so is there issues where adept could have updated a package from another repo that is "ahead of its time" and the other required packages for it arent up to edgy versions yet?
[07:14] <Martiini> apparently faisty doesnt install and breaks your system (Ive heard) .. I got it to work eventually
[07:14] <jatos> just to check, will fdisk be able to handle a abnormal partition layout?
[07:14] <longbean> freshburn: more likely it's an out-of-date repo that expects packages which are now obsolete
[07:14] <freshburn> it always was ok when i dualbooted win/Os/2
[07:15] <longbean> freshburn: it really does sound like a dependency problem
[07:15] <freshburn> whats faisty?
[07:15] <Minataku> jatos: Abnormal as in weird or abnormal as in corrupted?
[07:15] <Pensacola> when I try to sudo mount -o loop scenery_D1.iso /media/iso it says mount: Not a directory
[07:15] <freshburn> its wierd that every package i request install (i randomly clicked on a bunch of them) and they all reported BREAK
[07:15] <Minataku> DOS FDISK is a total piece of crap
[07:15] <Lynoure> freshburn: feisty is the upcoming ubuntu release
[07:16] <Minataku> I highly recommend never using it for any actual use
[07:16] <freshburn> ah
[07:16] <Minataku> Since all DOS FDISK can do is make DOS partitions and delete everything
[07:16] <Martiini> freshburn:  so .. do you wanna spend a few hours fixing your system .. or yu wanna do freshs install
[07:17] <freshburn> i installed edgy hoping that my wireless in laptop would "just work" but since it doesnt anyway should i run 6.06 instead of 6.10
[07:17] <jatos> I wanna fix my system, I have important data on it!
[07:17] <freshburn> at this point all i have on the system is basically the fresh isntall still lol
[07:18] <longbean> freshburn: try this at the command-line "apt-get check". that should give better info than what adept has given you
[07:18] <mineur[fencing] > jatos: and backing up that data and then do a fresh install?
[07:18] <freshburn> well plus an overnight let adept update shit over dialup session
[07:18] <Martiini> any case ..   u can "dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/PACKAGE-NAME" for PACKAGE-NAME  and then "apt-get -f install"
[07:18] <jatos> easier said than done for me...
[07:18] <kjdis> There is this annoyance I keep running into, with the Display Settings dialog in 6.10, when you try to go into Admin Mode sometimes the prompt for password never appears, anyone else have this?
[07:18] <mineur[fencing] > kjdis: I've had it too
[07:18] <Minataku> jatos: Provided only the partiton table was affected
[07:19] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:19] <freshburn> it happened to me once i clicked in the "taskbar" and minimized the window, typed in password then brought the settings back maximized
[07:19] <Minataku> You could attempt to use a rescue CD with a copy of... uh, some tool that looks for partition boundaries
[07:19] <mineur[fencing] > anyway, I'm of for training
[07:19] <Minataku> !gparted
[07:19] <ubotu> gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:19] <Minataku> That's not it
[07:19] <Minataku> Hm
[07:19] <mineur[fencing] > qtparted then? :p
[07:19] <kjdis> mineur[fencing] : man it's really pissing me off, restart of X doesn't clear it, I've been rebooting actually, and I have been running this box for only about a week and had it happen many times as I've been playing with the settings a lot
[07:20] <Martiini> uhh .. it was nice and quiet here during the day .. but as soon as USA wakes up ..
[07:20] <kjdis> mineur[fencing] : I must admit it's pretty sad, the kind of annoyances you expect in Windows
[07:20] <jatos> I got qtparted on, but how can I recover my old partitions with it
[07:20] <Minataku> gpart
[07:20] <Minataku> !gpart
[07:20] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[07:21] <Minataku> jatos: No, don't touch the HDD at all
[07:21] <jatos> kk
[07:21] <Minataku> Get a LiveCD or something that has gpart on it
[07:21] <Minataku> Then run that and pray
[07:21] <mineur[fencing] > kjdis: : I know, but it seemed to have fixed itself here, or I did something, but I would have no clue what...
[07:21] <BluesKaj> kjdis, ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[07:22] <mineur[fencing] > anyway now I'm really of for training
[07:22] <kjdis> BluesKaj: how will that fix it?
[07:22] <Minataku> If you're lucky and/or there was no overwriting of anything other than just the partition table, gpart should save your ass
[07:23] <Minataku> http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/ << gpart homepage
[07:23] <BluesKaj> kjdis, it will take you thru the X setup menu and help fix what's wrong
[07:24] <jatos> I fairly certain is just the partition table
[07:24] <freshburn> manchicken will i not have this kind of problems that a newb like me cant handle if i run dapper instead of edgy?
[07:24] <jatos> there a possible upto too gig of data into the hard disk may have been overwritten, but thats not where anything important it
[07:24] <jatos> *is
[07:25] <Minataku> As long as none of the partition boundaries were overwritten you should still be in good shape
[07:26] <freshburn> brb all switching kubuntu to try a few suggestions ty so far
[07:26] <manchicken> freshburn: Edgy works just fine.
[07:33] <freshburn> ok what was the command for a better error message from adept than just BREAK(install)
[07:33] <longbean> apt-get check
[07:34] <longbean> sorry, sudo apt-get check
[07:34] <freshburn> most packages will let me request install now but gnome-games still says BREAK(isntall) the gnome-games-data is installed tho
[07:34] <freshburn> what in a game could break my system?
[07:34] <kkosmo> someone what the name of the file that manage the mount points
[07:34] <kkosmo> ?
[07:35] <Zaggynl> Does anyone know if there is a frontend for trickle? Or if there is an on-the-fly bandwidth shaper?
[07:35] <longbean> kkosmo: /etc/fstab
[07:35] <N6REJ> "/etc/fstab"
[07:36] <fdoving> Zaggynl: what do you want to use it for?
[07:36] <longbean> freshburn: maybe try installing gnome-games from the command line? sudo apt-get install gnome-games
[07:36] <Zaggynl> fdoving, on the fly bandwith shaping
[07:36] <Zaggynl> trickle comes close, but I have to CLI it for every app
[07:36] <freshburn> command line reports BREAK also
[07:36] <fdoving> Zaggynl: for all traffic on the device, or single connections?
[07:36] <freshburn> check reports
[07:36] <freshburn> Reading package lists... Done
[07:36] <freshburn> Building dependency tree
[07:36] <freshburn> Reading state information... Done
[07:36] <Zaggynl> fdoving, per application
[07:36] <fdoving> !paste | freshburn
[07:36] <ubotu> freshburn: paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[07:36] <Zaggynl> so, yes, single connections
[07:37] <fdoving> Zaggynl: ok. then i don't have any good suggestions. I use 'wondershaper' for my dsl connection.
[07:37] <Zaggynl> Ah okay, thanks
[07:37] <N6REJ> fdoving: nice pipe... didn't know you could do that.
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Hi guys
[07:38] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: did you get your them installed?
[07:38] <freshburn> fdoving: how do you know i cant type that fast? j/k
[07:38] <K-Ryan> The themes?
[07:38] <K-Ryan> Yeah it was screwy but I did
[07:38] <fdoving> N6REJ: you can also use redirect (to msg) !fact > nick
[07:38] <fdoving> freshburn: voodoo magic :)
[07:39] <N6REJ> fdoving: sweet! I'll remember that.
[07:39] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: good.  Kubuntu has a wonderful help manual if you open Konqueror
[07:40] <longbean> freshburn: was there a line prefaced with "E" in the output of the apt-get command?
[07:40] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: wait till you start compiling software and you find out you need a file that you weren't told about.... thats when the fun begins.
[07:40] <K-Ryan> N6REJ I don't see anything about changing themes in the desktop
[07:40] <freshburn> so i am going to reinstall if i copy the updates from my desktop pc (identical setup as laptop) /var/cache/apt/archives and put them in that same directory on laptop after fresh install, will i not have to d/l them overnight (dialup) again?
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Err, desktop area of the manual
[07:40] <K-Ryan> Or the manual at all.
[07:40] <freshburn> will adept find them automatically if i put them in that dir?
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: open Konqueror, do you know where that is?
[07:41] <K-Ryan> Yep, use it all the time
[07:41] <freshburn> and this time i think i will just leave the default repos plus universe and multiverse,... is that completely safe?
[07:41] <longbean> freshburn: theoretically, yes. i'm not used to using adept, though.
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, when you first open it on the bottom right is a "life preserver" see it?
[07:41] <K-Ryan> Yeah...
[07:41] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats the help file menu.
[07:42] <longbean> freshburn: universe and multiverse shouldn't be any problem.
[07:42] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: click on "Desktop" and it will tell you everything you could ever want to know about the desktop
[07:42] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: or more accurately a "workstation" which is what you have.
[07:42] <freshburn> so whats the main restricted universe multiverse free non-free tags mean in the sources.lst file?
[07:42] <N6REJ> !repos > freshburn
[07:42] <K-Ryan> I don't see anything about desktops
[07:42] <K-Ryan> I'm running Dapper
[07:43] <K-Ryan> If that changes anything
[07:43] <longbean> freshburn: most of the non-free stuff you're after will probably be in multiverse, anyway. that's basically its purpose
[07:43] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: doesn't matter, its always been there.
[07:43] <freshburn> ooooooo... ty
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Hold on, I am going to show you what I see
[07:43] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: k
[07:43] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[07:43] <K-Ryan> Wait, did you want me to click the life preserver?
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Or the Desktop guide before hand...
[07:44] <freshburn> yes kryan
[07:44] <inam> !virus
[07:44] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:44] <K-Ryan> Because I've been in both and haven't seen how to change themes.
[07:44] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: either, they both have good info. the desktop guide is what you want
[07:44] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: on the very bottom right do you see "an introduction to konqueror?"
[07:45] <K-Ryan> Yes
[07:45] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, that will tell you all about Konqueror... now.. hang on.
[07:45] <K-Ryan> I know about Konqueror
[07:45] <inam> !free
[07:45] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[07:46] <Martiini> my atheros wlan card stopped working after I used module-assistant ( I think) ... How do I go about probing my ath0 wlan card and setting up wireless?
[07:47] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok.
[07:48] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: read this, see if that helps you some.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24380
[07:49] <freshburn> so is there a way to tell adept to try installing an older version of package gnome-games that possibly wont BREAK anything?
[07:49] <inam> !drm
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <K-Ryan> N6REJ, you did hear me say "I found out how to do it" right?
[07:49] <inam> huh ! :-o
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, the point I was trying to make is there is a TON of info, if you use the wiki's, the doc, the help
[07:50] <K-Ryan> KMenu>System Settings>Apearance
[07:50] <K-Ryan> Now if someone had told me that, it would of been much much easier.
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: if you use those sources and THEN come here nobody will ever yell at you again.
[07:50] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: I did last night.
[07:50] <K-Ryan> I couldn't find it in the sources.
[07:51] <N6REJ> :P
[07:51] <Martiini> freshburn:  .. I told you an hour ago .. you can do things like that with dpkg
[07:51] <K-Ryan> You said something close to it I think, ah no matter.
[07:51] <longbean> freshburn: find the package that gnome-games wants but isn't getting. it should tell you when you try to install it. "gnome-games depends on xxxxx, but...."
[07:52] <freshburn> itself is the one that says BREAK the main one
[07:52] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yeah, people generally can't give you a step-by-step click here guide.  The reason is is virtually every one of us has a slightly different look/feel/smell/install whatever.  Programs I have that make my life easy you may hate and not use.  And visa/versa
[07:52] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: so the best you can hope for is a general try this... or, look over here.
[07:53] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[07:53] <K-Ryan> But it was a theme change, which should be the same for all of Kubuntu users running Dapper
[07:53] <K-Ryan> It's not a big deal though, I figured it out
[07:54] <longbean> freshburn: could you try the apt-get install gnome-games again and paste the actual error message to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please?
[07:54] <freshburn> yup
[07:55] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: sure, but the problem was, and its something your going to HAVE to learn to overcome if you want to succeed at *nix, is that EVERYONE expects you've made a reasonable effort to solve this yourself, and when you said you were'nt going to read the resources given, that made folks angry.  For example, in my case I was in the middle of working on tax configuration in quasar.  I've got over 1048 tax codes to enter.  So both me and my
[07:55] <N6REJ> wife were hard at it.  I was on my WindBlows client and she was on KDE, I had to interrupt her to find out the exact sequence because I just do it, and don't even think about what it is that I'm doing anymore.  So two people, plus everyone here, had to stop to give more guidance then SHOULD have been necessary.... We were all noob's once, and we had to learn this basic fact.
[07:56] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: also realise that for example, I'm running edgy workstation at this moment, but my wife uses edgy server.  Two VERY different animals.  Most of the time "I" work in a konsole enviorment NOT a qui
[07:57] <K-Ryan> I have no problem using resources or even trying by myself, but I figured that was a quick little thing someone could of typed in.
[07:57] <K-Ryan> And it seemed like it was...
[07:58] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yep, they could've.... it was the point, not the problem.    There are LOTS of situations that are super simple once you know how, but you MUST try.  Especially with harder things.
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I did try!
[07:58] <K-Ryan> I was looking through every configure menu I knew about
[07:59] <freshburn> this is first time i tried to use pastebins and it is yelling at me that i am spamming and to enable javascripts
[07:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: nm.... if you understand what I'm trying to tell you it will help you enourmously.  I finally felt sorry for you and interrupted my work to answer your question, but most folks will NOT do that.
[07:59] <K-Ryan> Then thank you, let's stop arguing =P
[07:59] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: yep
[08:00] <freshburn> but in konqueror i have java and javascripts enabled globally
[08:00] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: so do you need help today or just visiting?
[08:00] <K-Ryan> I was waiting for someone to ask that =)
[08:00] <K-Ryan> No today I'm okay so far
[08:00] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok, just as an FYI, you have to say, THIS widget is broken and here's what I've done to try to figure it out... thats the proticol
[08:01] <N6REJ> bad spelling
[08:01] <longbean> freshburn: i can't explain that. i've got it open right now with no issues
[08:01] <malik_> does any one know any easdy way to configure kmail for yahoo pop access
[08:01] <freshburn> for syntax i chose bash i think thats right i was in a shell
[08:01] <K-Ryan> It's ok, I get what you meant.
[08:01] <N6REJ> malik_: unless yahoo has changed certain yahoo accounts don't do pop.  Check yahoo first.
[08:01] <amro> display settings isn't showing resolutions I have enabled when configuring xserver-xorg (and I know my monitor can display them). any idea why?
[08:02] <longbean> freshburn: maybe text. it's not code you're pasting
[08:02] <freshburn> anyways apt-get says that the dependencies are not installable
[08:02] <longbean> freshburn: URL?
[08:02] <freshburn> oh
[08:02] <freshburn> i c
[08:02] <Gidgidonihah> hello. I just installed ubuntu on my second hdd and grub isn't booting. it just boots directly into xp.  can anyone help?
[08:02] <N6REJ> amro: your video card has to be configured/able to handle them too not just the monitor.  Check your display drivers/settings.
[08:03] <K-Ryan> Gidgidonihah, you might have to put a /boot on your first hdd
[08:03] <K-Ryan> I had to and it fixed my problem
[08:03] <N6REJ> !grub | Gidgidonihah
[08:03] <ubotu> Gidgidonihah: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:03] <freshburn> wow the text thing was it thanks the url is 1715
[08:03] <K-Ryan> You can make a GRUB floppy? I have to remember that...
[08:04] <amro> N6REJ: The resolution works under windows. the driver was automatically picked by x
[08:04] <malik_> N6REJ: there are some linux utilities which can fetch it via pop but they are perl scxripts and i dont know how to install or work them........it says that after u install those u can configure ur mail client to send and recieve yahoo mail and even hotmail too
[08:04] <N6REJ> amro: thats doesn't mean it did it right :D  X is FAR from perfect.
[08:05] <N6REJ> malik_: is it "fetchmail" they are talking about?
[08:05] <Gidgidonihah> i don't have a floppy drive
[08:05] <Gidgidonihah> oh wait, yes i do :)
[08:05] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: you don't have to have one, you can use just about anything :D
[08:05] <amro> N6REJ: ill try vesa as driver
[08:05] <freshburn> martiini: the results of dpkg are in that same shell pastebin (1715)
[08:05] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: and in this instance I seriously doubt you do.
[08:06] <N6REJ> amro: what vid card?
[08:06] <longbean> freshburn: it's fixable. i think your sources.lst may have been borked somehow
[08:06] <malik_> N6REJ: its fetchyahoo for downloading mail and sendymail for sending it and there are alot of others on this page too
[08:06] <freshburn> im going to paste it now because i think i got some bad advice about repos to add from a forum
[08:06] <amro> N6REJ: i915
[08:07] <N6REJ> malik_: ok, do a search in adept for one of those.
[08:07] <N6REJ> amro, I think that is one of the cards that has issues.. vesa maybe your best bet.  Check the wiki
[08:07] <longbean> freshburn: looks like. those packages saying "not installable" should be installable
[08:07] <amro> N6REJ: alright, thanks, restarting x to test
[08:08] <N6REJ> !hardware | amro
[08:08] <ubotu> amro: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:08] <malik_> N6REJ: well fetchyahoo is in the repos but the one to send mail is not............
[08:08] <malik_> N6REJ: i just checked it
[08:08] <N6REJ> malik_: ok, then use fetchyahoo there will likely be a doc or a readme with it.
[08:09] <N6REJ> malik_: sorry just reread, ok, you may have to get it from debian.
[08:09] <Gidgidonihah> I forgot that i moved my floppy drive over to this computer.  Anyway.  i read the grubhowto and don't really know where to go.  All i can do is load windows or the live cd.    Seems wrong to me, or maybe just an unimportant bug?
[08:11] <freshburn> longbean those same packages with an identical sources.list worked fine on my desktop just not my laptop
[08:11] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: how did you lose grub anyway?
[08:12] <Gidgidonihah> It never worked.  I had a working xp install on my sata.  I then partitioned my pata and installed kubuntu.  i then rebooted and it just booted right into xp
[08:13] <K`zan> What is the update managers name for edgy?
[08:13] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: thats strange.
[08:13] <N6REJ> k
[08:13] <N6REJ> K`zan: adept for the gui
[08:13] <Martiini> freshburn: try dpkg -i --force-all  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-games*
[08:14] <K`zan> N6REJ: OK, I thought there was something that pops up the icon in the system tray, will run adept.  TNX ES 73.
[08:14] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: try sudo update-grub
[08:14] <longbean> freshburn: i think i need to go through how updating works on kubuntu
[08:14] <rich__> hi
[08:14] <N6REJ> K`zan: yeah, its a triangle... let me look
[08:14] <ashiunowho> hi
[08:14] <longbean> freshburn: step 1 is editing the sources.list
[08:14] <K`zan> N6REJ: rr rnx
[08:14] <rich__> wana chat???
[08:15] <longbean> freshburn: adept then performs step 2 and 3
[08:15] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: No GRUB directory found
[08:15] <N6REJ> <--- is popular all of the suddent
[08:15] <N6REJ> AH
[08:15] <rich__> hi
[08:15] <N6REJ> k
[08:15] <Gidgidonihah> of course it doesn't look like my hdds are mounted
[08:15] <longbean> freshburn: step 2 is downloading the summary of available packages from the repos
[08:15] <N6REJ> THATS an issue LOL
[08:15] <rich__> hi
[08:16] <rich__> wana chat???
[08:16] <Gidgidonihah> yeah, might be a bit of a problem
[08:16] <longbean> freshburn: step 3 is using those summaries to figure out what to install
[08:16] <K-Ryan> rich__ people here are not interested in personal chat.
[08:16] <Gidgidonihah> and i don't know how to mount them
[08:16] <freshburn> martiini that unpacked and install the gnome-game-data package
[08:16] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: check the "Changing the disk that grub is installed to " section.  No promises though, for some reason fstab didn't pickup your install.
[08:16] <longbean> freshburn: i'm guessing your unborked system hasn't been borked yet because you haven't updated anything yet
[08:17] <K`zan> N6REJ: /usr/bin/adept_updater :-). tnx
[08:18] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: well first of all i have to mount the drives, and i've yet to figure out how to do that
[08:18] <freshburn> it d/l 90 updates first night i installed kubuntu, the files are all in /var/cache/apt/archives i checked
[08:18] <djdarkman> hy ,can anyone tell me how to set up flash to work with opera on a 64 bit machine?
[08:18] <N6REJ> !mount | Gidgidonihah
[08:18] <ubotu> Gidgidonihah: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:18] <freshburn> and adept reported the next morning when i awoke that all was successful in updating
[08:19] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: does that help?
[08:19] <K-Ryan> How would I go about removing Ubuntu and putting Kubuntu in its place?
[08:19] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: is the *nix drive the same as the windows drive?
[08:19] <freshburn> and what the heck is unborked
[08:19] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: no, seperate drives
[08:20] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: install the KDE metapackage
[08:20] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: including the KDM
[08:20] <K-Ryan> But when I have Ubuntu in, its internet won't work.
[08:20] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, you need to make a "/boot" partition.  just 250M or is fine.
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: why do you say that?
[08:21] <K-Ryan> Because the ethernet port isn't recognized by the laptop
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: you can have as many display systems as you want.  Its *nix not windblows
[08:21] <K-Ryan> But in Kubuntu it is
[08:21] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok, should i boot to gparted or can i do that from the live cd?
[08:21] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: thats a config issue NOT gnome/kde issue.
[08:21] <longbean> freshburn: something about your setup isn't letting your system download packages which should be available for download
[08:21] <phobiac> Holy crap. This is horrible.
[08:21] <K-Ryan> Yes but he wants KDE anyway
[08:22] <phobiac> Hey K-Ryan
[08:22] <K-Ryan> Hey phobiac
[08:22] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: do it from the live cd... it may be a "repair"
[08:22] <longbean> freshburn: i'm gonna suggest removing all the unofficial repositories, running apt-get update and see if that fixes things. otherwise i'm out of ideas, sorry
[08:22] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: fine, so install KDE, and after you change to KDM remove ubuntu-desktop.. .DONE
[08:22] <phobiac> Okay, I really need help. I try to login with the graphic login and the screen goes black, the mouse shows up, and then I'm knocked back to the login screen.
[08:22] <Dink> What package has the "file, edit" etc in konqueror or how can I get it back ?
[08:23] <freshburn> ok, ty for trying, ive bothered just about every person here
[08:23] <K-Ryan> Remove it by removing it's partition?
[08:23] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: sorry, i'm lost. how do i do it?
[08:23] <N6REJ> phobiac: your video res is too high lower it
[08:23] <phobiac> N6REJ: I didn't touch my video resolution
[08:23] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: best way is to reinstall but this time make sure you create a small boot partition.
[08:23] <phobiac> I think it's X
[08:23] <longbean> freshburn: wait, no, i think i've got it.
[08:23] <N6REJ> phobiac: yes, it is.
[08:23] <phobiac> Wait, let my copy the error over I get when I do startx on a command line only session
[08:24] <N6REJ> phobiac: you could always delete your .x settings and let it rebuild.
[08:24] <freshburn> k
[08:24] <freshburn> shoot
[08:24] <N6REJ> freshburn: BANG
[08:24] <petr_> Hello Everyone
[08:25] <phobiac> waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[08:25] <phobiac> That's what I get. When I do startx I just get knocked back to command line.
[08:25] <longbean> freshburn: it's a silly typo :)
[08:25] <phobiac> N6REJ: How do I delete my .x settings?
[08:25] <longbean> freshburn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1722/
[08:26] <N6REJ> phobiac: ls -la and then "rm -rf .X whatever
[08:26] <freshburn> lmfao thats why changing important shit at 3am can be a bad thiing and a second set of eyes can be a good thing
[08:26] <N6REJ> freshburn: watch you language, this is a family channel
[08:26] <freshburn> my bad
[08:27] <longbean> freshburn: that paste contains your sources.lst file corrected
[08:27] <phobiac> So everything with .X in front of it has to be deleted?
[08:27] <freshburn> and its the first line so it piffed off adept when it read my repos and thats why it says BREAK on everything
[08:27] <freshburn> just that one longbean?
[08:27] <freshburn> lol
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: I would
[08:28] <longbean> freshburn: there were several that i saw.
[08:28] <phobiac> -rf is recursive, right?
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: recursive forced
[08:28] <phobiac> Just to dould check, rm -rf .X* should work?
[08:28] <longbean> freshburn: because the repo was entered wrongly, the packages you needed to get installed could not be found by the package manager
[08:28] <phobiac> With the wildcard.
[08:28] <N6REJ> phobiac: yep
[08:28] <phobiac> Okay
[08:28] <phobiac> Thanks
[08:29] <N6REJ> phobiac: np
[08:29] <freshburn> like every single one,... so the trailing slash should be added to all of them? that cant be right because alot of the lines were never edited from install
[08:29] <longbean> freshburn: hang on
[08:29] <N6REJ> I need to bow out to restart the kernel, everyone have what they need from me for now?
[08:29] <phobiac> Should I deleted xwinwrap?
[08:29] <longbean> freshburn: damn it, it's the other way round, sorry :(
[08:29] <N6REJ> phobiac: dunno, don't know that program
[08:30] <phobiac> Okay
[08:30] <phobiac> Thank you so much for your help.
[08:30] <N6REJ> phobiac: np.
[08:30] <phobiac> My live CD is with a friend and this freaked me out so much.
[08:30] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: don't leave me! :)
[08:30] <N6REJ> phobiac: don't worry, you can always redownload :D
[08:30] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, whats up?
[08:31] <longbean> freshburn: i just checked my own sources.list. trailing / is correct
[08:31] <freshburn> yeah i just looked at the one on my desktop pc, it has NO trailing slash
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: k creating a partition on the sata (windows drive)
[08:31] <phobiac> N6REJ: Yeah but that would make me out a computer a few days still. :(
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ:  primary ext3 ?
[08:31] <phobiac> Anyone, moment of truth. I'll try starting X now.
[08:31] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yes
[08:31] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: and then label it /boot?
[08:31] <N6REJ> phobiac: k
[08:31] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yes
[08:31] <longbean> freshburn: so you know what you're doing now?
[08:31] <phobiac> I still get the same error
[08:31] <freshburn> i think its safe to say its optional because some have it and some dont
[08:32] <phobiac> Only now it adds to it:
[08:32] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: when you "mount it on the next screen tell it /boot" as the mount point
[08:32] <freshburn> lol no
[08:32] <Gidgidonihah> N6REj: ok gonna give that a go.  Thanks so much for your help
[08:32] <N6REJ> freshburn: create a new sources list...
[08:32] <phobiac> xauth: creating new authority file  /home/admin/.Xauthority
[08:32] <N6REJ> !easysource | freshburn
[08:32] <ubotu> freshburn: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:32] <N6REJ> phobiac: thats a good thing!
[08:33] <phobiac> Yeah but doing startx again just does the same thing :(
[08:33] <phobiac> Do I need to restart the whole computer?
[08:33] <N6REJ> phobiac: admin?  Do you have permission in admin to run x?
[08:33] <phobiac> admin is my user name
[08:33] <N6REJ> phobiac: weird, k...
[08:34] <phobiac> Do I need root permission to run x?
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: NO
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: not unless something is seriously hosed
[08:34] <K-Ryan> Guys I'm installing Kubuntu on my friends laptop, should I remove the Ubuntu partitions and remake them for Kubuntu?
[08:34] <N6REJ> phobiac: rebuild your X config.. .something is hosed in it I think.
[08:35] <phobiac> How would I go about doing that?
[08:35] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: no, totally uncessary, just install KDE meta package
[08:35] <N6REJ> !xconfig | phobiac
[08:35] <ubotu> phobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[08:35] <K-Ryan> But I don't want to =)
[08:35] <K-Ryan> I don't want to try and configure the internet, that would be a little too much for me
[08:35] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: *sigh* here we go again... do you want KDE or not?
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Yes, I want to install KDE from the live cd
[08:36] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: ok fine, do it that way then!
[08:36] <K-Ryan> I just want to know how I can remove Ubuntu from here
[08:36] <phobiac> Okay, reconfiguring
[08:36] <Dink> What package or changes do i need to make so konqueror has the "File, Edit" option ??
[08:36] <K-Ryan> Not how, how I should
[08:36] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: you can uninstall gnome from adebt or synaptic or apt-get
[08:37] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: but if your installing from live why mess with it as it will overwrite everything
[08:37] <K-Ryan> That's the kind of thing I like to hear =)
[08:37] <phobiac> Hmm okay, I've got an ATI video card but I was using the fglrx driver for it. Should I choose fglrx?
[08:38] <phobiac> As the video card driver for X server
[08:38] <N6REJ> K-Ryan: let me make something clear.. UBUNTU isn't a desktop, its your distro of linux... its your TYPE of windows...i.e xp, 95 etc.... Gnome is your desktop, as is KDE... you can't "REMOVE" ubuntu and have a working *nix box unless you change distro's.
[08:38] <phobiac> Thanks again for your help N6REJ
[08:38] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: hrm.  I get the error: FAT and NTFS filesystems may not be used on filesystems used by the system (/, /boot, /home, /usr, /var, etc.). It is usually best to mount them somewhere under /media/.
[08:39] <K-Ryan> I wanted to remove Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu
[08:39] <N6REJ> phobiac: that can be a tricky thing... check the ati info
[08:39] <K-Ryan> Or in the other order, whichever way is the way to do it
[08:39] <freshburn> !backports
[08:39] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:39] <N6REJ> !ati | phobiac
[08:39] <ubotu> phobiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:39] <sampan_> hrmmm, interesting problem here.  i'm on dapper, which has been stable (uptime 144 days), but this morning i've "lost" the mouse.  can't see the pointer anywhere. unplugging and replugging in the mouse has no effect
[08:39] <karmikaze> whats the apt command if you just want to update one package? do you just do apt-get install package
[08:40] <freshburn> wouldnt that be FRONTports then?
[08:40] <phobiac> I'd have to lynx that link and it's too much to type over into another session, I'll just pick fglrx and hope for the best. Worst that can happen is I have to start all over in configuring.
[08:40] <phobiac> Thank you though
[08:40] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: that is correct.  your *nix partitions can't be NTFS or fat32 per se'.  What you want is a small /boot of ext3 for *nix to install the kernel in, and the another partition ( or more ) of ext3 for *nix itself
[08:40] <malik_> what does integer string and boolean means in FF config?
[08:41] <N6REJ> sampan_: cat ate it?
[08:41] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: yeah that's the thing.  I just created the partitions in ext3
[08:41] <sampan_> n6rej  i might have guessed that, except i only have dogs. no cats ;)
[08:41] <N6REJ> karmikaze: yes, basically that is correct.
[08:42] <N6REJ> sampan_: try doing a hard shutdown... maybe the mb is having a hard time?
[08:42] <sampan_> maybe it's a sign to finally do a clean install of edgy anyway ... been overseas and away from my home desktop for 4 months
[08:42] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: ok, this is getting really really strange...
[08:42] <karmikaze> ty
[08:42] <Gidgidonihah> lol yeah to say the least
[08:43] <sampan_> n6rej  yeah ... i think once these ftp downloads are done, i'll back up my /home and just shutdown and do a clean install of edgy.  just thought there might be a simple way to re-initialize the mouse
[08:43] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: here's what I'd like you to try.  Create your small boot on the windows drive, then reboot and install "CLEAN", let it have the entire "new hDD" as its drive.
[08:43] <N6REJ> !mouse | sampan_
[08:43] <ubotu> sampan_: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[08:43] <N6REJ> bah
[08:43] <sampan_> :X
[08:43] <N6REJ> sampan_: I think the mouse is initialize at boot time in the kernel itself
[08:44] <freshburn> so does a normal user need enable backports?
[08:44] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: i didn't quite get what you mean
[08:44] <mildner> hello any help for my dvb available?
[08:44] <N6REJ> freshburn: NO, enabling backports says "I know this is old software but I know what I'm doing and want to use it"
[08:44] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: basically reinstall.  see if that helps.
[08:44] <phobiac> What was that command again? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg?
[08:45] <sampan_> gotcha ... good to know.  i can live with keyboard only for a couple hours and then just backup and reinstall edgy clean.  thanks for the help :)
[08:45] <N6REJ> !xcfg | phobiac
[08:45] <ubotu> phobiac: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <freshburn> that coulda been my problem all along then the forum i read about sources.list said to enable them
[08:45] <phobiac> I just need to know if that was the command I need to use.
[08:46] <phobiac> I can't easily get to websites at the moment.
[08:46] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: just reinstall linux you mean, or everything?
[08:46] <N6REJ> freshburn: some programs are only available in the backports, but there are risks, read the sources.list file for explaination or repos
[08:46] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: yeah, do that and see if that helps... I don't know why it didn't "take"
[08:46] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: you need a "/boot" paritition though.
[08:47] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok, that much i didn't know before
[08:47] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: but i do now :)
[08:47] <N6REJ> Gidgidonihah: otherwise *nix has to live in the first 1024 sectors of the drive.
[08:47] <Xera> how do i install gksu?
[08:47] <N6REJ> gksu? is that a package name?
[08:48] <phobiac> Do you mean gksudo?
[08:48] <Xera> yes
[08:48] <Xera> E: Package gksudo has no installation candidate
[08:48] <phobiac> You should already have it.
[08:48] <N6REJ> sudo apt-cache search gksudo will tell you what package has it.
[08:48] <Xera> oh, so i do ;P
[08:48] <fdoving> Xera: package name is 'gksu'
[08:49] <Gidgidonihah> N6REJ: ok well i'm off to reboot and try things again. wish me luck
[08:49] <phobiac> N6REJ: What's the command I use to reconfigure X? sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg doesn't work?
[08:49] <Xera> dunno what installed it though, it wasn't installed yesterday
[08:49] <phobiac> That's all I need from you
[08:49] <dokteurping_> does somebody speak french here?
[08:49] <N6REJ> phobiac: scroll up LOL
[08:49] <phobiac> !french
[08:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <phobiac> I had to restart
[08:49] <N6REJ> !fr | dokteurping_
[08:49] <ubotu> dokteurping_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <phobiac> I lost the history
[08:49] <dokteurping_> ok
[08:49] <N6REJ> ok, let me reactivate my mouse... it takes naps.
[08:50] <phobiac> Thank you. That's all I need.
[08:50] <mathieu> is there a way with apt-get upgrade to know what version will be installed (of all packages)
[08:51] <blue|palm> Help needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I can actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here
[08:51] <N6REJ> !xconfig | phobiac
[08:51] <ubotu> phobiac: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[08:51] <phobiac> Thank you very much
[08:51] <blue|palm> Help needed with installation... Ive installed kubuntu succesfully, but I cant actually boot it!!! grub loads up and i can select kubuntu which is then followed by a black screen with blue "kubuntu" writing and a blue loading bar - nothing happens here
[08:51] <N6REJ> yw
[08:51] <N6REJ> blue|palm: it takes a while
[08:52] <blue|palm> ive waited more than 30 min
[08:52] <blue|palm> thats a looong while
[08:52] <N6REJ> blue|palm: oh
[08:52] <blue|palm> any ideas? anyone?
[08:52] <N6REJ> dunno, sorry
[08:52] <blue|palm> ive tried both i386 amd amd64
[08:52] <blue|palm> are there problems with SATA or SATA2 drives by any chance?
[08:52] <dokteurping> is there a way to get grub more beautifull?
[08:53] <blue|palm> because I have a mixture of SATA and IDE drives... maybe they are conflicting in kubuntu or something?
[08:54] <blue|palm> anybody know where i can get help?
[08:54] <pavouk> hello, a have problem with apt-get install, i can't install nothing because different apllication running, but I don't which (it is the same if I reboot), how can I disable that "unknown" aplication . thx
[08:55] <dokteurping> maybe you cna get help in the official website of kubuntu
[08:55] <blue|palm> ive checked, all there is are the forums and this channel
[08:55] <blue|palm> ...
[08:55] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: what kind of hardware are you using
[08:56] <blue|palm> AMD FX60 Dual Core Processor
[08:56] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: how far does grub get
[08:56] <blue|palm> SATA 2 HDD (windows) + IDE (kubuntu)
[08:56] <blue|palm> it loads up fine
[08:56] <bonbonthejon> pavouk: try restarting
[08:56] <blue|palm> Ive tried that
[08:56] <blue|palm> grub works and kubuntu starts booting
[08:56] <Daisuke_Ido> pavouk: check synaptic, aptitude, adept, etc
[08:57] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: kubuntu should show what it is doing while it boots, does it?
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> it sounds like another client has it locked
[08:57] <blue|palm> no
[08:57] <blue|palm> it is just a black screen, with blue kubuntu text and a blue loading bar
[08:57] <blue|palm> the text is "Kubuntu"
[08:58] <mathieu> to answer my own question, apt-get -V does the trick
[08:58] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: is this dapper or edgy
[08:58] <blue|palm> edgy
[08:58] <blue|palm> should i get dapper
[08:58] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: the booting stuff changed in edgy, but it should still work
[08:58] <mildner> hello any help for my dvb available?
[08:59] <jon__> how do i update java
[08:59] <blue|palm> any ideas
[08:59] <blue|palm> its just unresponsive, as if it locks up
[08:59] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: there should be a way to view what is going on, try pushing esc or f1 while booting, it should go to text based
[08:59] <blue|palm> ive tried that
[08:59] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: does capslock still light up on the keyboard?
[08:59] <blue|palm> Ive used gentoo before, and gentoo had "verbose" mode
[08:59] <blue|palm> yes
[09:00] <jon__> how do i update java?
[09:00] <blue|palm> ive tried both amd64 and i386
[09:00] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: are you using networking?
[09:00] <blue|palm> no
[09:00] <mathieu> and to elaborate more on my own question, adding  APT::Get::Show-Versions "true" to /etc/apt/apt.conf will also do the trick (always)
[09:01] <blue|palm> Thats another problem: Does kubuntu support WPA-PSK security?
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: ok, I was guessing maybe it was failing on getting an address
[09:01] <mathieu> thanks ;)
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: yes, but it requires some work
[09:01] <blue|palm> I have disconnected my wifi card completely
[09:01] <blue|palm> and thats the only networking i have
[09:01] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: did you have it in when you installed?
[09:01] <blue|palm> yes
[09:01] <freshbrn> ok the problem was a typo in sources.list, when i added canonical i spelled commercial...commercail
[09:01] <freshbrn> im so dumb
[09:01] <blue|palm> should i re-install without it?
[09:02] <freshbrn> but at least its fixed
[09:02] <freshbrn> ty
[09:02] <freshbrn> everyone
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: if its not too hard, try reinstalling
[09:02] <blue|palm> ok, for the 7th time today :)
[09:02] <blue|palm> thanks
[09:02] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: hope it works
[09:02] <blue|palm> I hope so too :) it looks like a great distro
[09:02] <jon__> how do i update java?
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> jon__: how did you install it
[09:03] <jon__> i do not remember, someone helped me
[09:03] <blue|palm> One more question, whats the general opinion of openSUSE vs Kubuntu/ubuntu
[09:03] <AdamFz> jon__ : may sound a silly suggestion, but follow the instructions in the self-extracting file from Sun. Works a charm, I did it yesterday. ;)
[09:03] <freshbrn> but i did disable the backports repos,... so what software is only avail on them so i know what i cant have
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> jon__: from a website, or using repository
[09:03] <bonbonthejon> blue|palm: never tried openSuse
[09:04] <jon__> i cannot do it with Adept?
[09:04] <blue|palm> ok
[09:04] <AdamFz> jon__ : I don't think Adept has the latest one in there yet. Or I couldn't find it, it's why I went for the manual install.
[09:05] <jon__> ok, thanks
[09:05] <blue|palm> has anybody here tried openSUSE?
[09:05] <Rob-West> is SuSe even free
[09:05] <blue|palm> openSUSE is
[09:05] <AdamFz> jon__ : There are only 2 stages to it. Run the downloaded file, and then link to it from within your ~/.mozilla/plugins directory
[09:05] <AdamFz> (assuming you use firefox)
[09:06] <jon__> ill try to figure it out
[09:06] <AdamFz> jon__ : I can step-by-step you if it'd help
[09:06] <jon__> oh, i need java to run a java program, not in firefox
[09:06] <AdamFz> aah
[09:06] <mildner>  hello any help for my dvb available?
[09:06] <tibbar> how can I get a quicktime plugin for firefox
[09:06] <freshburn> l8tr all
[09:06] <AdamFz> jon__ : well, the same should apply... but I've never used standalone java. So I may be of little use
[09:07] <The_Machine> I dual boot kubuntu and Windows XP, however I don't boot into XP (ever).  I do need to keep this setup in case i ignorantly crap out my linux OS for whatever unknown reason.  I use several external hard drives attached to this computer, and they are formatted with NTFS.  What is the best way to be able to read and write to the NTFS partitions on these external drives in kubuntu?
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | The_Machine
[09:07] <ubotu> The_Machine: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:07] <AdamFz> tibbar : There is no native quicktime player for linux
[09:07] <bonbonthejon> mildner: never used dvb
[09:08] <AdamFz> tibbar : mplayer can play them.. (sudo apt-get install mplayer)
[09:08] <jon__> i will have to do it when someone can step me through it who is sure it will work because i have an older version right now that i am relying on
[09:08] <tibbar> AdamFz: i'll try ty
[09:09] <AdamFz> tibbar : mplayer is great for just about any format you throw at it.
[09:09] <cyrille> Hello
[09:09] <blue|palm> The_Machine : How did you get kubuntu and windows dual booted?
[09:10] <tibbar> AdamFz: im trying to watch a music video and I can't download it, is there a way to play it with mplayer?
[09:10] <AdamFz> All videos can be downloaded one way or another ;)
[09:10] <AdamFz> What's the url?
[09:10] <blue|palm> use bitcomet's service for video downloading
[09:10] <tibbar> http://www.ferretstyle.com/comeclarityvideo/
[09:10] <The_Machine> Had XP installed, installed ubuntu, changed over to kubuntu using Synaptic.
[09:10] <blue|palm> or firefox plugin
[09:11] <blue|palm> firefox plugin is nicer
[09:12] <cyrille> I have a problem with my graphic boards, who can help me?
[09:12] <bonbonthejon> cyrille: ask the question
[09:12] <soulrider> The_Machine: youre asking if you should keep windows just in case you scrrew up kubuntu ?
[09:13] <cyrille> HEllo bonbonthejon
[09:13] <AdamFz> tibbar : The video is here: http://videos.ferretstyle.net/inflames-comeclarity2.mov
[09:13] <cyrille> I have a s3 savage4
[09:13] <The_Machine> No.  I was just getting the consensus of the best way to be able to write to NTFS partitions that are on external hard drives.  I realize now that mentioning the dual boot part is pretty unnecessary..  i mentioned it because i don't want to crap out that NTFS partition though.
[09:13] <AdamFz> I'll leave it to your imagination on how to save it.
[09:13] <The_Machine> :)
[09:13] <soulrider> cyrille: what computer do you have, isnt it really old?
[09:13] <cyrille> No
[09:13] <tibbar> AdamFz: ty how did you get that?
[09:13] <soulrider> ahh The_Machine i get it now
[09:14] <cyrille> Athlon 1666Mhz with 292Mo RAM
[09:14] <AdamFz> tibbar : My mplayer plugin for firefox shows where the source files are
[09:14] <bonbonthejon> cyrille: what is the problem
[09:14] <cyrille> I cannot benefit from acceleration 3d
[09:14] <soulrider> thats a good comp, is it an on board card ?
[09:14] <AdamFz> tibbar : Well, not My plugin, I should say "the" plugin.
[09:15] <soulrider> cyrille: i suggets searching in http://ubuntuforums.org theres tons of helo there
[09:15] <cyrille> ok
[09:15] <soulrider> maybe someone had a problem like yours, solved it and posted
[09:15] <The_Machine> i have been using captive NTFS..  do people think that 3g is better?
[09:15] <soulrider> The_Machine: i have allways used 3g
[09:15] <The_Machine> hmm
[09:15] <soulrider> i never heard about captive
[09:16] <The_Machine> any issues?
[09:16] <soulrider> 3g is great!
[09:16] <The_Machine> :)
[09:16] <soulrider> works like charm, at leats for me
[09:16] <The_Machine> k
[09:16] <The_Machine> critical data at all?
[09:16] <tibbar> AdamFz: where do I get the mplayer plugin? or does it come automatic with the instalation
[09:16] <The_Machine> or everything is disposal?
[09:16] <soulrider> well, i dont suggest writing something critical on an NTFS partition
[09:17] <The_Machine> i guess critical is relative..
[09:17] <The_Machine> "I'd really rather not lose this data at all"
[09:17] <The_Machine> type critical
[09:17] <The_Machine> not like "i lose money if this gets deleted"
[09:17] <AdamFz> tibbar : I think it comes with mplayer, can't remember now.
[09:17] <The_Machine> or "I have no more pictures of my family because of this"
[09:17] <soulrider> The_Machine: thes
[09:17] <soulrider> i have
[09:17] <The_Machine> k
[09:17] <tibbar> AdamFz: ok thanks
[09:17] <soulrider> but what i tried doing was slowly switch to ext3
[09:18] <soulrider> altohugh on my 120gb drive its kinda hard
[09:18] <The_Machine> :)
[09:18] <The_Machine> words.
[09:18] <soulrider> ext3 is much better
[09:19] <soulrider> ill be right back
[09:19] <draco> heya
[09:20] <phobiac> K-Ryan: You still here?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Yup
[09:20] <soulrider> !ext3
[09:20] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[09:20] <phobiac> You want to set up sauerbraten still? I managed to get it working for me.
[09:21] <K-Ryan> I got it working
[09:21] <K-Ryan> But I didn't set my fglfx thing completely right
[09:21] <K-Ryan> so my screen is really screwed up
[09:21] <K-Ryan> the sync is off because I dont know what it should of been
[09:22] <phobiac> What's your monitor's dimensions?
[09:22] <tom-123> lu
[09:22] <K-Ryan> Don't know
[09:23] <phobiac> You should be able to find the right sync on google.
[09:23] <phobiac> Maybe with the monitor's model?
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Dunno what model my monitor is either =)
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Windows can tell me if I really want
[09:23] <phobiac> Okay
[09:23] <soulrider> uhm, is it me or the ext3 fs isnt too good? =/
[09:23] <K-Ryan> But I'm content with mahjongg at the moment
[09:23] <K-Ryan> Plus I finally got frozen bubble!
[09:24] <Daisuke_Ido> what's wrong with ext3?
[09:24] <phobiac> Woo, was a repository not enabled or something?
[09:24] <tom-123> who is frence
[09:24] <K-Ryan> I was looking in add/remove programs
[09:24] <soulrider> i was just reading on wikipedia
[09:24] <K-Ryan> Didn't know Adept and Adept Installer were different
[09:24] <soulrider> and it doesnt seem to have many features
[09:24] <phobiac> Ahhh okay
[09:24] <soulrider> but im p[robably wrong
[09:24] <Daisuke_Ido> it's just ext2 with basic journalling
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing inherently *bad* about it, but there are better ones out there, i'm sure
[09:25] <draco> jak jest partycja wymiany ???
[09:25] <Tm_T> draco: polski?
[09:25] <soulrider> !pl
[09:25] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:26] <draco> tak poslki
[09:26] <phobiac> Ahh, there. Everything back to normal. For some reason my firefox settings got messed with.
[09:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still looking for a web development package on par with dreamweaver
[09:28] <Daisuke_Ido> nvu's nice
[09:30] <hatta> vim is pretty sweet
[09:32] <bonbonthejon> nano all the way
[09:32] <HymnToLife> kate :)
[09:33] <bonbonthejon> HymnToLife: well, if you work with a GUI, then yes kate is best
[09:37] <K-Ryan> Anyone else have trouble opening Frozen Bubble? I've tried opening it 3 times now.
[09:37] <K-Ryan> It loads, nothing opens, and the load thing disapears.
[09:39] <dokteurping> does anyone knows if there is a way to get blender in french?
[09:42] <miguel> hi!
[09:42] <phobiac> Hi
[09:43] <draco> hi
[09:44] <miguel> any one speak spanish?
[09:44] <phobiac> !spanish
[09:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:44] <juano> anyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks
[09:45] <MementoMori> hi all
[09:45] <grubsgonewild> hi mentos
[09:45] <grubsgonewild> the fresh maker
[09:45] <phobiac> Hey
[09:46] <grubsgonewild> bububu
[09:46] <bonbonthejon> hi
[09:46] <phobiac> Hello
[09:46] <bonbonthejon> anyone know much about svn
[09:46] <grubsgonewild> crack is wack
[09:46] <bubu1uk> ok, here's the problem. by mistake erased file. any chance to recover it?
[09:46] <juano> anyone help me with audicious? theres no volume when playing a cd! thanks
[09:46] <phobiac> bubu1uk: Check the trash?
[09:46] <bubu1uk> phobiac: did it in console. rm file
[09:46] <phobiac> bonbon: What's your problem?
[09:47] <bonbonthejon> phobiac: i want to delete a repository
[09:47] <grubsgonewild> bonbonthejon, why what did it ever do to you?
[09:47] <phobiac> bonbon: You mean one in sources.list?
[09:47] <bubu1uk> phobiac: and no, it isn't in trash.
[09:47] <vinisterx> Greetings everyone.
[09:47] <bonbonthejon> phobiac: no, a repository on my svn server
[09:48] <phobiac> bubu1uk: Hmm, no idea. Sorry
[09:48] <phobiac> I know how to do it in windows.
[09:48] <phobiac> But that isn't much help.
[09:48] <phobiac> bonbon: I don't know how, but I'll check google for you.
[09:49] <bubu1uk> phobiac: on win would probably know it as well. lol.
[09:49] <bubu1uk> phobiac: thanx anyway.
[09:49] <phobiac> Sorry. You could search around for a file recoverer or something on google.
[09:50] <phobiac> I can check for you too
[09:51] <phobiac> I can't find anything about svn repo's. Maybe there's a file of them in your ~ folder.
[09:51] <phobiac> Look for any files with svn maybe.
[09:52] <phobiac> Aha, bub I may have found what you need
[09:52] <phobiac> Oh wait, this is all shareware
[09:52] <phobiac> http://www.sharewareconnection.com/titles/linux-file-recovery.htm
[09:53] <phobiac> Well it might help anyway.
[09:54] <sampan_> well i guess the mouse disappearance was a screensaver issue -- after the screensaver came back on, voila, i have my mouse again.  odd
[09:57] <K-Ryan> !sound
[09:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:57] <dromer> anybody know what libsdl I need for FretsOnFire to work properly? (the screen hangs alot during play)
[09:57] <dromer> http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/uv/fretsonfire/
[09:57] <Tm_T> dromer: Doesn't happen here.
[09:58] <dromer> Tm_T: mhat do you mean?
[09:58] <Tm_T> dromer: I mean it works just fine here.
[09:58] <dromer> ah ok
[09:58] <gemidjy> !openchrome
[09:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openchrome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:58] <dromer> I don't need a special kind of libsdl?
[09:59] <Tm_T> Shouldn't.
[09:59] <dromer> Tm_T: I find it's especially when multiple key's are pressed
[09:59] <freshburn> is there a norton ghost like app for linux? or a way to make an exact clone of an install (edgy kubuntu) and put on another pc?
[09:59] <dromer> but that's prob because this pc is kind of sloew :#
[10:00] <dromer> Tm_T: pIII 800mhz 512mb GeFiorce2MX :$
[10:00] <binks> !FretsOnFire
[10:00] <Tm_T> dromer: Smaller displaysize etc, it can be pretty heavy.
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about FretsOnFire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <fdoving> freshburn: yes, you have some alternatives; partimage, mondorescue, systemimager are examples. I like mondo rescue.D[D[D[D[D[D[D
[10:00] <freshburn> is there one installed by default on kubuntu edgy
[10:00] <freshburn> i.e. partimage
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: But admit, lots of good stuff comes from Finland. ;)
[10:01] <dromer> Tm_T: it's at 640x480 (standard) and put the framerate at about 40 I think, alos but ****** on 2x (can't remember what it;s called)
[10:01] <dromer> Tm_T: yeah it ROCKS \m/
[10:01] <fdoving> freshburn: i belive you have to install it.
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: Antialiasing?!
[10:01] <dromer> hmm, yes ? :)
[10:01] <dromer> something like that :P
[10:01] <Tm_T> dromer: Drop it, drop it now.
[10:02] <freshburn> i want to make an identical copy of my desktop and put onto my laptop do the partition sizes have to be exactly the same?
[10:02] <dromer> Tm_T: drop what? :#
[10:02] <freshburn> better yet i have winhex on my xp and both machine dual boot is it possible with that?
[10:02] <Tm_T> dromer: Biggest load there is propably that AA, so put it off.
[10:02] <dromer> Tm_T: completely? ok
[10:02] <dromer> I'll see if it helps :)
[10:03] <dromer> it's on 4x standard
[10:03] <dromer> my amd1,4 1024 gf6200 likes it fine ;)
[10:03] <Tm_T> dromer: Yup, and that can slow down my system too, even if I can play Doom 3 etc...
[10:03] <dromer> ok
[10:03] <dromer> I hardly play any other games, any reccomends for that low-end system? :)
[10:04] <dromer> Tm_T: I made it as a htpc for the kitchen/living
[10:04] <dromer> but this game rocks for that :)
[10:04] <dromer> I'd like some other cool games on it if possible
[10:04] <Tm_T> dromer: Well, Tuxracer, SuperTux, Wesnoth... there's more.
[10:04] <Tm_T> Frozen Bubble2 !
[10:04] <dromer> hmm
[10:04] <dromer> haha
[10:04] <freshburn> dromer what game are you talking about?
[10:05] <dromer> freshburn: FretsOnFire \m/
[10:05] <Tm_T> But sleep now, behave kids. ->
[10:05] <dromer> Tm_T: I'm checking to drop the antializing
[10:05] <dromer> thnx for the tips ;)
[10:05] <dromer> later o/