[07:18] <muskelbiber> has superkaramba an logfile perhaps I find there informations why TempMon don't work
[07:19] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, well, the themes themselves can be downloaded from inside SK, so it's not a biggie
[07:19] <firecrotch> I still haven't figured out the intricasies of superkaramba, but it works fine for me (just some themes don't work, since there are some things that Kubuntu does differently)
[07:19] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, I use the GlassMonitor theme
[07:19] <Grey_Loki> firecrotch, any idea why the themes that I have aren't updating their displays?
[07:20] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: oh yea..i just figured that...too bad u cant get a description of the widget till u download it i guess...
[07:20] <Grey_Loki> Every one of them stays static, only refreshing the data when I tell it to, rather than automatically
[07:20] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: ok i'll try that one too...thanx
[07:20] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, since the largets one i've seen is about 500KB, I think it's a moot point
[07:20] <Grey_Loki> *largest
[07:20] <firecrotch> Grey_Loki: That's an odd one... Which themes are you using?
[07:20] <Grey_Loki> firecrotch, at the moment, GlassMonitor
[07:21] <Skuller> ohh cool....corecction..i can see the description without downloading
[07:21] <Skuller> i mean installing*
[07:21] <Grey_Loki> Although i've also tried the Sleek Monitor, which had the same problem
[07:21] <Dumahen> how can i get back my computer it has a lot of problem after update :(
[07:23] <firecrotch> Grey_Loki: Are you using Edgy?
[07:24] <Grey_Loki> firecrotch, yup
[07:24] <Grey_Loki> At least, i'm fairly sure I am
[07:24] <filthpig2> !ndiswrapper
[07:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:24] <filthpig2> sigh
[07:24] <filthpig2> of course ndiswrapper isn't installed on fiesty by default
[07:25] <firecrotch> Grey_Loki: I know it worked nicely for me in Edgy, and it's working fine in Feisty... I just had to modify it to detect my wireless
[07:25] <Grey_Loki> Guess i'll go back to searching their forums
[07:25] <Grey_Loki> It seems that it may be because i've not updated everything in a while
[07:25] <Grey_Loki> I don't really have the bandwidth to do so at the moment
[07:26] <Grey_Loki> And I have ~300MB of packages ready for me if I apt-get upgrade
[07:26] <firecrotch> Grey_Loki: That could be.  I've always kept up to date on everything
[07:26] <firecrotch> Grey_Loki:  Trust me, it's time well spent to upgrade
[07:27] <Grey_Loki> firecrotch, i'll wait until tomorrow to do it - going around to a friends house
[07:27] <Grey_Loki> His connection'll take such a beating, it'll never know what hit it
[07:27] <firecrotch> Haha
[07:27] <filthpig2> hm
[07:27] <filthpig2> when I do "locate ndiswrapper" I get some outputs
[07:27] <filthpig2> but I cannot run ndiswrapper
[07:28] <bxnp> what do you get when you start ndiswrapper from the console filthpig2
[07:29] <filthpig2> cmnd not foudn
[07:29] <filthpig2> found
[07:29] <bxnp> do
[07:29] <bxnp> which ndiswrapper on the console
[07:29] <filthpig2> nada oO
[07:29] <filthpig2> no outout
[07:29] <bxnp> lol
[07:30] <bxnp> you dont have ndiswrapper installed
[07:30] <bxnp> you have the kernel module
[07:30] <bxnp> yes
[07:30] <bxnp> but not the user programs
[07:30] <filthpig2> ah
[07:30] <bxnp> do this
[07:30] <bxnp> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[07:30] <Skuller> what does $ locate XXX do?
[07:30] <Skuller> search?
[07:31] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, 'man locate'
[07:31] <Grey_Loki> :P
[07:31] <Skuller> lol
[07:31] <firecrotch> !locate
[07:31] <ubotu> locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb
[07:31] <Skuller> hmm
[07:31] <bxnp> filthpig2: is it installing those packages
[07:31] <filthpig2> bxnp: hehe, well that's a bit hard when I need the ndiswrapper to get online in the first place ;)
[07:31] <bxnp> you are online
[07:32] <Skuller> what about specifying the parameters like type of file or directory?
[07:32] <bxnp> what are you talking about
[07:32] <filthpig2> from another computer, yes
[07:32] <bxnp> well do this
[07:32] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: what about specifying the parameters like type of file or directory?
[07:32] <Grey_Loki> bxnp, online from a second computer, when he wants to get the first up and running.
[07:32] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, again, check the man entry
[07:32] <bxnp> is that other computer allso running the same kubuntu version
[07:32] <Grey_Loki> They are there for you to read
[07:32] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: ok thanks
[07:33] <filthpig2> I'm running winXP on this one
[07:33] <filthpig2> but the one I'm trying to get on the air is 7.04 herd 5
[07:33] <bxnp> my god for you friend, who does not know how to get his network up
[07:33] <bxnp> why did you not install dapper
[07:33] <bxnp> wich is stable
[07:33] <bxnp> already
[07:33] <bxnp> anyway
[07:34] <firecrotch> filthpig2: Just browse the repos and download the packages, then copy them to the Kubuntu computer
[07:34] <firecrotch> filthpig2:  Then just install them with dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:34] <firecrotch> !info ndiswrapper-common
[07:34] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-common: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:37] <youtheman> Having just installed the Kubuntu LiveCD Dapper Drake on a spare disk I am wondering if there's a GUI to fine tune the boot menu (GRUB)?
[07:37] <bxnp> i dont understand why kubuntu does not put ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 in the default installation
[07:37] <bxnp> they dont think what to include what is inportant to people
[07:38] <bxnp> yeah give me 6 editors
[07:38] <youtheman> I looked around and I don't believe there's a GRUB GUI editor anywhere.
[07:38] <filthpig2> sweet
[07:38] <filthpig2> the common and utils-files were on the cd
[07:38] <bxnp> no they are not
[07:39] <filthpig2> yes they were
[07:39] <bxnp> you have to download them otherwise your friend does not have this problem
[07:39] <firecrotch> youtheman: You'll have to edit the GRUB config file, it's a simple text file
[07:39] <filthpig2> pool/main/n/ndiswrapper
[07:39] <bxnp> i am taltking about the user space ndiswrapper program
[07:39] <bxnp> not the kernel module
[07:39] <filthpig2> yes?
[07:39] <filthpig2> common and utiles
[07:39] <filthpig2> utils
[07:39] <filthpig2> 1.8
[07:39] <youtheman> firecrotch: hi, thank you for advising
[07:39] <bxnp> strange
[07:39] <filthpig2> just installed them ;)
[07:40] <firecrotch> youtheman: you're welcome :)
[07:40] <bxnp> becuase on breezy dapper and edgy install cd they are not included
[07:40] <bxnp> maybe they changed that good, finaly they think a bit
[07:41] <firecrotch> youtheman: the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:42] <youtheman> what's the GRUB command shell good for then?
[07:42] <filthpig3> christ
[07:42] <Sayers> T3hWiz0rd: Do you know any decent free webhosts
[07:42] <filthpig3> this opera irc client is wacked
[07:42] <mervteck> #winehq
[07:43] <bxnp> use konversation xchat or irssi filthpig3
[07:43] <prolisok> Hello! Can anyone help with video playback? I've installed all codecs. The problem is that high definition video don't play fluently. It seems like there's lack of RAM. Can I give more resource to video player?
[07:43] <bxnp> those are real irc clients
[07:43] <Grey_Loki> filthpig3, sudo apt-get install irssi?
[07:44] <youtheman> hmmm
[07:45] <youtheman> this is awkward
[07:45] <youtheman> i cannot find documentation further breaking down what menu.lst mean
[07:45] <youtheman> i tried info grub and man grub, both are quite terse
[07:45] <youtheman> i'll google
[07:46] <filthpig3> i REALLY hope this works
[07:46] <filthpig3> didn't get any weird outputs, so hopefully it'll work :)
[07:46] <bxnp> you hope what works
[07:47] <filthpig3> it would be totally awesome if it did ^^
[07:47] <bxnp> you mean ndiswrapper filthpig3
[07:47] <youtheman> wow GRUB is way too powerful, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[07:47] <youtheman> hey i had no idea GRUB would knock out my Windows XP bootloader
[07:48] <youtheman> i preferred the XP one (okay, i know it SUCKS), and then configuring it to load linux
[07:48] <youtheman> but LiveCD clobbered my bootloader without warning
[07:48] <bxnp> just ndiswrapper -i thewindows inffile
[07:48] <youtheman> how do i get it back?
[07:48] <firecrotch> !grubfix
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <bxnp> then check with ndiswrapper -l everything works oke filthpig3
[07:49] <apokryphos> why would you want to get back a bootloader which you say yourself, sucks?
[07:49] <firecrotch> !grub
[07:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:49] <youtheman> apokryphos: because i know it
[07:49] <youtheman> i know it pretty well
[07:49] <bxnp> and if everything works make it final ith ndiswrapper -m
[07:49] <prolisok> Hello! Can anyone help with video playback? I've installed all codecs. The problem is that high definition video don't play fluently. It seems like there's lack of RAM. Can I give more resource to video player?
[07:49] <apokryphos> youtheman: then I'm sure you know how to put it back ;-)
[07:49] <youtheman> and i am tremendously busy, i have time to try Kbuntu, but I don't have time to learn the jedi tricks of GRUB
[07:49] <youtheman> apokryphos: okay i don't know that trick
[07:49] <apokryphos> youtheman: why would you need to learn thme?
[07:49] <apokryphos> *them
[07:49] <Grey_Loki> prolisok, i'm pretty sure that the video app would take as much memory as it needs
[07:50] <Grey_Loki> How much RAM is in your system?
[07:50] <prolisok> 1 Gb
[07:50] <Grey_Loki> Also, how much is your video player actually using?
[07:50] <Grey_Loki> Use 'top' to find out
[07:50] <apokryphos> youtheman: does it not work fine?
[07:50] <prolisok> It opens file Okay, but it interupts when playing from time to time
[07:51] <youtheman> apokryphos: i am trying to modify it so that it does not inconvenience my family
[07:51] <bxnp> what is the cpu usages when you play that file prolisok
[07:51] <youtheman> it is defaulting to Kubuntu at boot up
[07:51] <youtheman> i want it to boot to XP by default
[07:51] <youtheman> i am the only one using Linux for university stuff
[07:51] <prolisok> how can I get to know how much video player is using?CPU usage - quater of full usage
[07:51] <bxnp> no you are not youtheman
[07:51] <filthpig3> installing the xp driver with ndiswrapper
[07:51] <filthpig3> for the d-link card I'm trying to get working
[07:51] <filthpig3> oh well, it didn't work
[07:51] <filthpig3> hm
[07:51] <filthpig3> can it be that the prism54usb and ndiswrapper drivers are colliding?
[07:52] <apokryphos> youtheman: that's probably very easy (though Kubuntu's real grub editor comes in Feisty). Pastebin me your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:52] <bxnp> dont spam filthpig3
[07:52] <bxnp> anyway
[07:52] <apokryphos> !enter | filthpig2
[07:52] <ubotu> filthpig2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:52] <bxnp> what is ndiswrapper saying when you install the INF file
[07:53] <youtheman> apokryphos: you are going above and beyond the call of duty here
[07:53] <youtheman> i am fidning some results googling
[07:53] <youtheman> something about changing default
[07:53] <youtheman> default 0 to default whatever item windows is on
[07:53] <apokryphos> youtheman: I'm really not :P
[07:53] <Smorg> anyone here use the linuxant drivers? do they work?
[07:53] <Smorg> worth getting?
[07:53] <apokryphos> youtheman: it'll be easier for me if you pastebin it
[07:53] <Sayers> Are there any decent/good free web hosts laying around, I really dont feel like spending oney
[07:54] <filthpig3> bxnp: It didn't say anything other than installing the file
[07:54] <Smorg> kppp can't seem to work normally :-/
[07:54] <bxnp> ndiswrapper -l the output filthpig3
[07:54] <youtheman> apokryphos: does GRUB read the menu.lst at every boot? I don't have to "burn" the changed menu.lst to the MBR do i?
[07:54] <filthpig3> and when I do ndiswrapper -l I get prisa02, driver installed, hardware present
[07:54] <filthpig3> prisma*
[07:54] <bxnp> oke well its good
[07:54] <filthpig3> so it really should be working
[07:55] <apokryphos> youtheman: no, you don't. The MBR is a ridiculously small thing that just redirects, in this case -- to /boot. That file is the GRUB configuration file.
[07:55] <bxnp> and how do you know that its not working
[07:55] <bxnp> do iwconfig
[07:55] <youtheman> okay
[07:55] <youtheman> apokryphos++
[07:55] <Grey_Loki> 1984++
[07:55] <youtheman> brb gotta reboot
[07:55] <youtheman> and test out the new menu.lst
[07:56] <apokryphos> youtheman: I hope you haven't changed anything bad :P
[07:56] <mervteck> hey everybody!
[07:56] <apokryphos> otherwise we won't be seeing you again ;-)
[07:56] <apokryphos> hi
[07:56] <Skuller> omg is there any way i can change anything (except the background) in my glass monitor karamba widget?
[07:57] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, not easily
[07:57] <Grey_Loki> Unless you fancied going through the .theme file, and editing it manually
[07:57] <Grey_Loki> (I commented out the wireless card section, since i'm on a cabled network)
[07:57] <mervteck> can anyone help me with getting bf2 to work on wine =\ the wine channel is useless, and the site isant much better
[07:57] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: easy to change the options in the theme file?
[07:58] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: i got no prorgrammin skillz btw if thats what is needed
[07:58] <bxnp> filthpig3: what does iwconfig says
[07:58] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, well, take a look at the theme file
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> mervteck: what would you want to play that crappy game for anyway :p
[07:58] <prolisok> bxnp, Grey_loki, do you have any ideas what can be the problem of such stops while playing video
[07:58] <mervteck> heyyy i like bf2 xD
[07:58] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: how?....open with kate?
[07:58] <mervteck> just cuz i love sniping noobs xD
[07:58] <LeeJunFan> mervteck: I used to - until they neutered the helo's.
[07:58] <Grey_Loki> It's stored in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/
[07:58] <Grey_Loki> But yeah, open it with something
[07:59] <bxnp> what are the specs of your box prolisok
[07:59] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: ok...hehe
[07:59] <Grey_Loki> It's a standard text file, with a different extension
[07:59] <prolisok> bxmp, what is specs of box?
[07:59] <bxnp> bxnp it is :)
[07:59] <prolisok> sorry, bxnp
[08:00] <bxnp> ehm, specs is what kind of hardware are you running
[08:00] <mervteck> yeah i was mad when all of a suddon a minigun can hit a guy 60 times and only take 20 health =\
[08:00] <bxnp> video card cpu ram
[08:00] <filthpig3> bxnp: lo and eth0 gives no wireless ext
[08:00] <filthpig3> and the card is dead
[08:00] <filthpig3> the powerLED is dark
[08:00] <filthpig3> how can I get the prism-driver to not run?
[08:00] <bxnp> blacklist the module
[08:00] <filthpig3> geez, I'm lagged as hell :s
[08:01] <mervteck> my bf2 starts ... but b4 i get any menu or anything it crashes and screws my Desktop to where i have to restart
[08:01] <kunwon1> Hello - I'm on kubuntu with KDE 3.5.5, and when I go to System Settings > Monitor & Display, It says the Monitor & Display module could not be loaded. Possible reasons listed are that an error occurred during the last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module, or that I have an old third party module lying around. I've tried googling and haven't found anything helpful, any suggestions as to how I can get my monitor &
[08:01] <kunwon1> display module working again would be appreciated
[08:01] <prolisok> Video card ati radeon x1600 XT 256 Mb, installed driver ok - bxnp, cpu - atlon 3500+, RAM - 2x512 Mb
[08:01] <LeeJunFan> mervteck: are you running the wine that comes with kubuntu or the up to date one?
[08:01] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: its in .skz extension and opens up a bunch of ants when opened with kate
[08:01] <bxnp> filthpig3: put a line blacklist yourmodule in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:01] <mervteck> how can i tell?
[08:01] <Grey_Loki> Skuller, you're looking at the wrong place, then
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> mervteck: you would have had to add a repoistory to get the newest.
[08:02] <mervteck> i believe i already did
[08:02] <bxnp> whell that should be more then enough to play hdvideo
[08:02] <filthpig3> bxnp: "blacklist prism54usb2" ?
[08:02] <mervteck> go in PM for a minuet lee
[08:02] <bxnp> is that the module wich got loaded on boottime filthpig3 then yes
[08:03] <Skuller> Grey_Loki: ok i think i'll get back to it later...i need to go
[08:03] <Skuller> thanks for your help
[08:03] <Skuller> laterz
[08:03] <bxnp> and for now you have to remove the module with rmmod yourmodule
[08:03] <Grey_Loki> Seeya, Skuller
[08:03] <prolisok> Yes, bxnp, I had common problem playing small files in kffeine before I enabled using larger amount of hardware resource for player
[08:04] <filthpig3> hmh :/
[08:04] <bxnp> btw filthpig3 do ndiswrapper -m allso
[08:05] <bxnp> and then the easiest way is to reboot and see if you card is recognized at boot time
[08:05] <filthpig3> rebooting at
[08:05] <bxnp> what filthpig3
[08:05] <bxnp> one sec prolisok
[08:06] <prolisok> Ok, bxnp, I'll wait
[08:07] <payam> #ubuntu.se
[08:09] <payam> How can i see a iso file without write it on a Cd
[08:09] <payam> ?
[08:11] <Grey_Loki> payam, sudo mount /path/to/iso /path/to/mount -o loop
[08:11] <filthpig3> at
[08:11] <filthpig3> atm
[08:11] <filthpig3> damned m-key
[08:11] <filthpig3> hehehe, sorry
[08:11] <filthpig3> hm
[08:11] <filthpig3> no go :(
[08:11] <filthpig3> sigh
[08:11] <filthpig3> why OH why
[08:11] <filthpig3> hm
[08:12] <bxnp> i am on the phone filthpig3
[08:13] <payam> Grey_loky
[08:13] <filthpig3> bxnp: okey
[08:14] <Grey_Loki> payam?
[08:14] <payam> where can i write the name of the iso fail
[08:14] <payam> Hw can i select it
[08:14] <payam> bkz i have two iso files
[08:14] <Grey_Loki> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
[08:14] <payam> and i want that one of them be installed
[08:14] <payam>  sudo mount /path/to/iso /path/to/mount -o loop
[08:15] <payam> what happens if i write it in terminal?
[08:15] <Grey_Loki> If you write that, nothing
[08:15] <payam> nothing?
[08:15] <payam> so?
[08:15] <Grey_Loki> You need to substitue the two /path/to's with proper paths
[08:15] <Grey_Loki> So if your iso was in your home directory, and your mountpoint was /media/iso
[08:15] <Grey_Loki> The command would be:
[08:15] <principo> Hallo, kann mir jemand helfen??
[08:15] <Grey_Loki> sudo mount /home/payam/file.iso /media/iso -o loop
[08:17] <filthpig3> and you create the /media/iso with sudo mkdir /media/iso :)
[08:17] <filthpig3> !.de | principo
[08:17] <ubotu> principo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:17] <payam> > sudo mount /home/payam/Autocad Lt 2005.iso /media/iso -o loop  ?
[08:17] <payam> like that?
[08:17] <Grey_Loki> payam, assuming that /media/iso is a directory, yes
[08:17] <Grey_Loki> I should also tell you that software piracy is illegal
[08:17] <payam> media iso?
[08:18] <payam> i know
[08:18] <payam> i have wine
[08:18] <payam> waite
[08:18] <payam>  :  /media/iso
[08:18] <payam> what you say about that='
[08:18] <payam> ?
[08:18] <payam> what shoul i write then?
[08:19] <filthpig3> yes
[08:19] <Grey_Loki> payam, type ls /media/iso
[08:19] <Grey_Loki> Does it give you an error, or not?
[08:19] <payam> waite
[08:19] <payam> i should test it
[08:20] <payam> A device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom,
[08:20] <payam> or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid .
[08:20] <payam> Other options: [-nfFrsvw]  [-o options]  [-p passwdfd] .
[08:20] <payam> For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[08:20] <bruno__> oi
[08:21] <filthpig3> payam: in konsole, write sudo mkdir /media/iso
[08:22] <payam> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/iso': File exists
[08:22] <osh_> Is there a way to control the cpu governors based on temperature? I need it to switch to powersave when temp goes over a certain threshold. Is there something out there already or should I start my python-fu?
[08:22] <bruno__> alguem fala portugues ai
[08:22] <osh_> !pt
[08:22] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:23] <osh_> bruno__: or ask your question in english. ;-)
[08:24] <bruno__> http://
[08:25] <bruno__> !pt
[08:25] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:25] <Sayers> does /tmp clean it'
[08:25] <bruno__> :)
[08:25] <Sayers> it's* self out?
[08:25] <bruno__> thank you
[08:30] <filthpig3> payam, then mounthing the
[08:30] <filthpig3> ?erh
[08:31] <filthpig3> then mounting the image should work..
[08:31] <filthpig3> oh well
[08:31] <filthpig3> I give up my project for now
[08:31] <filthpig3> bb tomorrow..
[08:38] <Cantthinkofname> what are some good media players besides amarok?
[08:38] <Cantthinkofname> i'm getting kinda tired of it
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> join #php
[08:39] <chino> mplayer
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> Sorry..
[08:44] <MostKnown53> helloe what kind of program is used to install programs in kubuntu
[08:44] <payam> what do you mean?
[08:45] <MostKnown53> like im new to linux and i wanted to start with kubuntu and i dont kno how to install program i always get probelms with depends
[08:46] <payam> K menyaddd/remove programs
[08:46] <biohazard> # ubuntu-pl
[08:47] <biohazard> #ubuntu.pl
[08:47] <MostKnown53> what does #ubuntu.pl do
[08:49] <mervteck> hey everyone
[08:49] <MostKnown53> hey
[08:49] <sybux> hi all, I need to connect to a Wifi network which is in WPA enterprise with LEAP encryption. Any1 know how I can do this ?
[08:50] <andreux> Boa tarde
[08:50] <Grey_Loki> sybux, you'd have to use wpa_supplicant
[08:50] <Grey_Loki> !wpa_supplicant
[08:50] <mervteck> is anyoone here a linux coder?
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <sybux> Grey_Loki: thx, I will have a look
[08:52] <billy00> help! my apt-get is completely broken.  i can't install or update any software.  all hope is lost
[08:53] <MostKnown53> how do i get synaptic
[08:54] <billy00> apt-get keeps trying to remove a package, but it keeps getting an error, and it refuses to give up
[08:54] <mervteck> anyone wann talk to meh? im lonly! xD
[08:54] <billy00> it won't let me do anything else until this package is removed
[08:55] <fdoving> billy00: can you paste the error to http://rafb.net/paste and give me the address to the result?
[08:56] <billy00> sure thing
[08:56] <Grey_Loki> MostKnown53, it should be installed by default
[08:56] <Grey_Loki> System>Administration>Synaptic
[08:58] <MostKnown53> ok thx
[08:58] <billy00> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/wA1r5693.html
[08:58] <MostKnown53> do u kno how to make it so that the bootloader will boot from a usb drive
[09:00] <cecko> hi all, don't you know if the kubuntu herd 5 iso is named correctly in its metadata?
[09:00] <Lynoure> Is there some way apart from the font size for adjusting menubar or toolbar height in kde?
[09:00] <tominglis> hi, does anyone know how to change the encoder quality in kaudiocreator?
[09:01] <fdoving> billy00: can you now paste the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl1440lpr.postrm ? ('cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl1440lpr.postrm|more' to view, space for more if it's more than one page)
[09:01] <Section31> I so love the Beryl "beam up" animation for minimizing/maximizing apps.
[09:01] <billy00> will do
[09:02] <Grey_Loki> I'm tempted to install Beryl on this desktop system
[09:02] <Grey_Loki> But in the preview videos i've seen for it, there are lots of artifacts
[09:02] <Grey_Loki> Plus, I run dualhead :D
[09:04] <billy00> fdoving: http://rafb.net/p/kFJLw543.html
[09:04] <NDPowerBook> Grey_Loki: No artifacts on my Dell Latitude 400 that I'm running it on.
[09:05] <Grey_Loki> NDPowerBook, how about dualscreen?
[09:05] <NDPowerBook> Grey_Loki: I dunno.
[09:05] <Grey_Loki> brb
[09:08] <paul__> anyone tried lightscribe on linux?
[09:11] <fdoving> billy00: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl1440lpr.postrm and add a # infront of the last line.
[09:11] <billy00> ok
[09:11] <RawSewage> where is the spell check switch in Konversation
[09:12] <RawSewage> nm
[09:12] <RawSewage> right-click text-input box
[09:12] <cecko> I have brain-teaser for you all: you have two files. both of them are called "feisty-desktop-i386.iso" and both of them are labeled as "Kubuntu 7.04 i386" when opened in k3b. Which of them is Kubuntu Feisty Herd 5?
[09:13] <yacoob> cecko, mount them, check them :)
[09:13] <billy00> fdoving: i thnk that worked, thanks!
[09:13] <fdoving> billy00: you're welcome. :)
[09:13] <filthpig3> :s
[09:13] <MostKnown53> hey who has been working with kubuntu for a while
[09:14] <fdoving> cecko: the one which md5sum matches the one on the download page.
[09:14] <fdoving> MostKnown53: what is your question?
[09:15] <MostKnown53> i need to know what the best software is, instant messenger, email, firewall,antivirus,mediaplayer and so on
[09:16] <filthpig> well
[09:16] <filthpig> most of it is installed already, MostKnown53 ;)
[09:16] <cecko> yacoob: that would be handy, thx
[09:16] <fdoving> MostKnown53: IM: kopete, mail: Kontact/Kmail or Mailody (imap only), firewall you don't need, antivirus: clamav, but you don't really need that either, mediaplayers: kaffeine is good for movies, amarok is great for music.
[09:16] <cecko> fdoving: you solved it! thx
[09:17] <fdoving> cecko: you're welcome :)
[09:17] <yacoob> those days I mostly use gmail
[09:17] <filthpig> I prefer using amsn for IM, but of course that's only for msn ;)
[09:17] <filthpig> and Konqueror for irc
[09:18] <MostKnown53> lol so u telling me i dont need a firewall with linux or a antivirus, if i dont use a firewall then whats keeping hackers from stilling personal information and what ever else they want
[09:18] <fdoving> MostKnown53: if you don't install any services you're safe.
[09:18] <MostKnown53> what will be a service
[09:18] <yacoob> MostKnown53, you don't need antivirus, there are little viruses that attack Linux out there in the wild.
[09:18] <yacoob> Firewall... well, that depends on your setup.
[09:19] <filthpig> most of the linux viruses are aimed at servers
[09:19] <fdoving> MostKnown53: mailservers, ftpservers, webservers etc.
[09:19] <MostKnown53> ok im just worried about the firewall part
[09:19] <yacoob> filthpig, those are worms  :)
[09:20] <MostKnown53> i use paypal and ebay alot i dont want someone stealing my information
[09:20] <filthpig> yacoob: well they mess up the system anyway :P can do, at least :P
[09:27] <filthpig1> sigh
[09:28] <filthpig1> not getting that Foxtrot Utah Charlie *-ing d-link card to work :(
[09:31] <tominglis> hi, how do you edit the monitor and display settings from the system settings, without using the ui?
[09:31] <tominglis> (the ui is broken)
[09:32] <filthpig1> sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[09:35] <LOLNADA> hey, Kubunt edgy's DVD has Beryl?
[09:36] <LOLNADA> hey, Kubunt edgy's DVD has Beryl?
[09:36] <tominglis> filthpig1: i particularly want to edit the power saving option
[09:37] <tominglis> the one that tells the machine how long to keep the screen from going off
[09:37] <tominglis> that's not in xorg.conf?
[09:39] <mervteck> =O i got CSS TO WORK WOOT!
[09:43] <Alonea> So, does Linux have any nice video editing software? like somthing similar to Pinnacle , Showbiz, Primier, etc.
[09:44] <Cugel> Alonea: short anwer: no. Longer answer: Kdenlive is quite nice -- and I was used to Pinnacle.
[09:44] <Cugel> You're meant to used Kino. And I will say it here and now: Kino _sucks_.
[09:44] <Alonea> Cugel: doesn't surprise me.
[09:45] <Cugel> But I was able to happily edit scenes and stuff with Kdenlive.
[09:45] <Cugel> Kino is okay for capturing from my digital camera.
[09:46] <Alonea> I want an app that can record video from a video source, but now that I think of it I dont have video plugs on this compy like my other one does. Well, I need to to be able to read a lot of different formats. Especially .vob files. I like doing AMVs.
[09:47] <Cugel> I use VLC to play .vob files -- but I don't know if there's an editor for those.
[09:47] <orient2000> Kdenlive is not in adept is it?
[09:47] <Cugel> orient: no it's not.
[09:47] <Cugel> It should, really.
[09:48] <Alonea> Cugel: yeah, Show Biz would, but the program was real bad at managing ram that it crashed a lot.
[09:49] <Alonea> Cugel: I would rip a dvd to another format but I cant find anything that works on sony's new dvds these days
[09:50] <ub_> !help
[09:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:51] <Alonea> ub_: who was that for?
[09:51] <fiction> How do i browse files as sudo?
[09:52] <fiction> for example, in ubuntu, i can do "sudo nautilus"
[09:52] <Alonea> fiction: kdesu konqueror in the terminal.
[09:52] <Cugel> fiction: sudo konqueror?
[09:52] <fiction> sudo konqueror doesnt wok
[09:52] <fiction> Alonea: thanks, ill try
[09:52] <Alonea> fiction: no problem, and ignore any errors it says. its referring to wacom tablet.
[09:53] <fiction> Alonea: it worked, thanks. and yes, terminal showed a bunch of "failed to..."
[09:53] <Alonea> fiction: its just X bad device stuff. dont worry about it. it does it to everyone. ^__^
[09:54] <underdog5004> unless you comment out that portion in xorg.conf
[09:56] <fiction> =)
[09:57] <filthpig> sorry to interrupt, but what exactly is that wacom stuff in xorg?
[09:57] <Gunirus> something useless
[09:57] <osh_> Is there a way to control the cpu governors based on temperature? I need it to switch to powersave when temp goes over a certain threshold. Is there something out there already or should I start my python-fu?
[09:57] <Cugel> There are instructions on what to comment out -- it does help thingsl.
[09:57] <Alonea> well, I actually have a wacom tablet, just haven't tried to use it yet on Linux. Its a shame I wont be able to run Corel Painter 9 on Linux, but I will eventually get windows back up and running on the other hd.
[09:57] <filthpig> !wacom
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Cugel> Personally I think it's a bug.
[09:58] <filthpig> Gunirus: :) but if it's useless, why is it there? :)
[09:58] <Gunirus> you have a wacom tablet?
[09:59] <Alonea> Gunirus: yeah, I do. I bought one at best buy a couple months ago. they are awesome.
[09:59] <Gunirus> try it!
[09:59] <filthpig> Gunirus: what is a wacom tablet? :P
[10:00] <Gunirus> filthpig: disable it ....
[10:00] <filthpig> heheh, ok :p
[10:00] <Gunirus> if you don't know what it is, then you can't have one :)
[10:00] <Alonea> filthpig: you seriously have never heard of them? well, for one, they are not cheap. basically its a digital drawing pad.
[10:00] <filthpig> aha
[10:00] <filthpig> one of those things
[10:00] <Gunirus> Alonea: price?
[10:01] <Alonea> Gunirus: I got one for 110.
[10:01] <Gunirus> $ or  ?
[10:01] <Alonea> $
[10:01] <Alonea> Gunirus: its a small one, but it works just fine for me.
[10:01] <Gunirus>  82.599
[10:01] <Gunirus> too much for me
[10:02] <Alonea> Gunirus: is that the conversion for you? but yes, they are not cheap and the bigger ones go in the thousands of dollars range
[10:03] <Gunirus> wtf
[10:03] <mervteck> can anyone help me figure out a crash log from Wine
[10:03] <mervteck> well an app running with wine
[10:03] <Alonea> Gunirus: they really are not for the common people to just mess around with. they are for professional artists and the video editing people of movies and such.
[10:04] <Gunirus> i know
[10:04] <Gunirus> but i was surprised
[10:04] <Alonea> Gunirus: yeah, and 110 is actually pretty cheap for the one I got. was lucky i saw one on sale and such
[10:04] <Gunirus> $ > 1000 for some elctronics...
[10:04] <Alonea> Gunirus: yeah, the prices on them are insane.
[10:06] <Alonea> ooo, 12x19 pad looks like it dropped. at least their intuos series did. only $750
[10:06] <mervteck> so can anyone help a noob decifer a crash log?
[10:07] <Gunirus> mervteck: maybe
[10:07] <Alonea> I got a graphire 4x5 pad.
[10:07] <mervteck> how would i send the log anyways
[10:07] <Gunirus> !paste
[10:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:08] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls if i can remove some menus in the right click menu?
[10:08] <lupul> i want to remove refresh desktop
[10:09] <the_hammer> how do i adjust permissions on trash can
[10:09] <the_hammer> got a file in there wont let me emty :(
[10:09] <mervteck> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10817/ ream em and weep! xD
[10:09] <mervteck> 444 lines of error...
[10:10] <the_hammer> if its that bad id reinstall heh
[10:10] <mervteck> lol i dunno if its all errors.. but help meh figure out what the hell it all means and how to fix it >.<
[10:10] <Gunirus> the_hammer: BlackMagic? :
[10:10] <Gunirus> :p
[10:10] <Gunirus> oops
[10:10] <the_hammer> lol
[10:11] <Gunirus> mervteck: BlackMagick?
[10:11] <mervteck> yeah thats my pc name =P
[10:11] <Gunirus> for games you've cedega
[10:11] <Gunirus> not wine
[10:11] <mervteck> wine says it will run BF2
[10:12] <mervteck> so far it runs anything steam, i wanna see it run BF2 now =)
[10:12] <the_hammer> cvirus did u ever hang on undernet?
[10:12] <CVirus> the_hammer: yes
[10:12] <CVirus> the_hammer: what is it ?
[10:12] <the_hammer> lol been ages since i seen u
[10:13] <CVirus> the_hammer: #Kubuntu-offtopic
[10:13] <filthpig1> god DAMN
[10:13] <Alonea> filthpig1: dear, language.
[10:13] <mervteck> so anyone got a clue on what all the errors are saying and how to fix it?
[10:13] <mervteck> or hell even a clue
[10:14] <filthpig1> Alonea: sorry, been a rogh day :p
[10:14] <filthpig1> rough
[10:15] <filthpig1> oh well
[10:16] <Alonea> filthpig1: its okay dear. if I didn't say it someone else would of. actually someone in #ubuntu  yesterday completely had a cow for someone saying damn just by itself. I hope today goes better for you!
[10:16] <VR_> would of?
[10:16] <VR_> BWEURGH~ !
[10:17] <filthpig1> haha
[10:17] <filthpig1> Alonea: sure it wasn't that christian derivative channel you were on, then? :P :D
[10:17] <Alonea> mervteck: ok, dxdiag is direct X diagnosis type thing.
[10:17] <mervteck> kks
[10:17] <Alonea> filthpig1: lol! no, its just some people take the "family friendly" thing a bit toooo far.
[10:18] <filthpig1> haha, so it seems
[10:18] <mervteck> Alonea: so what should i do?
[10:18] <Alonea> mervteck: it looks like it is looking for direct x components. also, do you have 3d acceleration?
[10:19] <filthpig1> ALONE
[10:19] <filthpig1> abandoned by all
[10:19] <filthpig1> even ndiswrapper :(
[10:19] <ubuntu_> holas
[10:19] <mervteck> i... duno can u be more idot so i can understand? xD i know i got my nvidia drivers, i know i got a few dll's ppl sequested i get
[10:19] <ubuntu_> alguna mujer
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> hello
[10:19] <Alonea> mervteck: do you get the cube with gears when you do this in the terminal
[10:19] <Alonea> ? fgl_glxgears
[10:19] <filthpig1> !.es | ubuntu_
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> !es | ubuntu_
[10:19] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:20] <mervteck> yeah
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> mervteck: whats your frame rate?
[10:20] <mervteck> how do i check
[10:20] <Alonea> mervteck: let that run for a few seconds, close box, and it will tell you
[10:21] <nosrednaekim> it should be printed in the terminal you started fgl_glxgears from
[10:21] <filthpig1> !no
[10:21] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[10:21] <mervteck> k 1 sec
[10:21] <mervteck> mm didnt tell me anything =\
[10:22] <Alonea> mervteck: how long did you let it run? 5 seconds should do it...
[10:23] <Alonea> mervteck: and you just closed the gears box right?
[10:23] <mervteck> 1 sec im redoing it only from konsole this time...
[10:24] <mervteck> i let it run this time from console for about 30 seconds and when i closed the geers box it says X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[10:24] <Alonea> mervteck: oh, did you not do it in the terminal/konsole last time?
[10:24] <mervteck> not the first few times but now when i do it gives me that error
[10:24] <Alonea> mervteck: but while its running, in the terminal it will start spouting framerates every couple seconds
[10:25] <mervteck> nope it dont do it
[10:25] <mervteck> in console i put glxgears
[10:25] <mervteck> and it jsut sits there
[10:25] <Alonea> mervteck: nop, its fgl_glxgears
[10:25] <mervteck> bash not found
[10:26] <Alonea> mervteck: did you just copy and paste what I put in, exactly?
[10:26] <mervteck> yes
[10:26] <filthpig1> btw, will (k)ubuntu revert to using bash, or will they stick to dash?
[10:26] <Alonea> mervteck: and you checked there wasn't a space in front of the f or anything right?
[10:26] <filthpig1> and what is actually the difference (except that cedega won't work with dash ^^)
[10:26] <mervteck> right
[10:27] <mervteck> mervteck@BlackMagic:~$ fgl_glxgears
[10:27] <mervteck> bash: fgl_glxgears: command not found
[10:28] <Alonea> hmm, odd. maybe thats only if you have fglrx.
[10:28] <Alonea> i had to install binary drivers to get my ati card to work
[10:28] <mervteck> ahh
[10:28] <mervteck> nvidia pwns =)
[10:28] <Alonea> the binary are for nvidia too
[10:29] <Morvok> do the legacy drivers support the video-in for capturing?
[10:29] <Alonea> lets see, i guess if the gears showed up without the fgl then I guess you have 3d, but I am not sure.
[10:29] <Alonea> mervteck: what was the game you were trying to do with wine again?
[10:30] <sicye> hi!whz cant i resiye mz parttio wih qtparted?i only shows me format?and how can i change keyboard to qwertz?i changed regional settings in kcontrl,but sill hae qwertz_
[10:31] <mervteck> BattleFeild  2
[10:31] <sicye> and my keyboard wont work proper with  kubuntu?
[10:32] <sicye> !factoids
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:32] <Alonea> sicye: the default keyboard is us querty.
[10:33] <Alonea> *qwerty
[10:33] <filthpig1> sicye: unless you changed it during installation
[10:34] <Alonea> sicye: and partitioning is quite easy. first screen you make the sizes with the little slide bar and then you goto next screen to say which partition is which and whether you want to reformat them or not
[10:34] <sicye> Alonea: well, i want t change it to german, i did in change it to german i regiona! and im on livevcd at the moment, still testng
[10:35] <Alonea> sicye: ok, so you want language to be german and keyboard to be qwerty?
[10:36] <filthpig1> does anybody know if the partitionmanager from herd5 will be the one used on the final release?
[10:36] <sicye> Alonea: i  want  to resize partition and install kubuntu via virtualbox!!and yes
[10:36] <filthpig1> It's really terrible to use :s
[10:37] <Alonea> sicye: dunno what virtualbox is...I just use their stuff to partition. works fine for me.
[10:37] <Alonea> sicye: is virtualbox with daemon tools?
[10:37] <Alonea> *like
[10:37] <sicye> Alonea: well, qtparted will only let me format bu no resize
[10:38] <mervteck> Alonea : any clue what i can do?
[10:39] <sicye> Alonea: virtualbox is like vmware, you can have several workingstation, for instaling diffrent distros as tessystems for example
[10:39] <Alonea> mervteck: what os is wine set to?
[10:39] <mervteck> xp i believe 1 sec
[10:39] <Alonea> sicye: ah, ok. well, I dont know really how to help. only way I install is through bootable dvd
[10:40] <mervteck> yup windows XP
[10:41] <sicye> Alonea: i  reboot ino mz os then, resiye and install kubuntu as testsystem hen!thx for trying
[10:41] <Alonea> mervteck: well, I have not used wine much so see what they say in #winehq
[10:42] <sicye> kubuntu seems to have real problems with my solar keyboard thog :(
[10:42] <mervteck> there useless they never talk and when they do they jsut say figure it out yourself!
[10:43] <Alonea> mervteck: check this page? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3438
[10:43] <mervteck> yup checked it lots
[10:44] <Alonea> mervteck: hmm, maybe someone in ##linux has an idea
[10:47] <BenPA> hi all ...  I prefer it by the clock myself
[10:50] <BenPA> thank you alonea I found it
[10:51] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to set my refresh rate to 60
[10:52] <filthpig1> mervteck: google it?
[10:57] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know how to retrive all the windows and exactly the desktop of whatever the last kde session was?
[10:57] <crackhead_25> my comp crashed, and i wanted to see what kopete messages had been sent me..
[10:57] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:57] <ubuntu_> how can i install grub from the live cd? im trying to rescue my system
[10:57] <ubuntu_> ??
[10:57] <crackhead_25>  question: anyone know how to retrive all the windows and exactly the desktop of whatever the last kde session was? my comp crashed, and i wanted to see what kopete messages had been sent me..
[10:58] <filthpig1> crackhead_25: unless you're logging with kopete, they're gone
[10:59] <X86echo> I got to set auto spell checking in Konqueror when I type it does not do it anymore anyone know a trick ?
[10:59] <filthpig1> ubuntu_: I'm quite sure you can find a howto for it with google
[11:00] <BenPA> does anyone know if there is an equivalent of apple's parallel in linux yet?
[11:01] <crackhead_25> how do i log with kopete?
[11:01] <mervteck> well that was useless
[11:02] <shad-99> any one know how to get cs 1.6 to work with Wine?
[11:02] <mervteck> did u install the tahoma font?
[11:03] <hans> ...moin, moin!
[11:05] <BenPA> does anyone know if there is an equivalent of apple's parallel in linux yet?
[11:06] <filthpig1> what's that?
[11:07] <BenPA> a program that runs osx linux and ms at the same time under osx
[11:07] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me?
[11:07] <shad-99> Does any one know if you can install cs 1.6 on to Kubuntu with wine?
[11:07] <filthpig1> BenPA: vmware, then
[11:07] <filthpig1> or from kernel 2.6.20 it's kvm
[11:07] <ruphy> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[11:08] <shad-99> is that working with vmware?
[11:08] <_Anderson_> how can I put that tool bar (like on MAC OS X) on kde?
[11:08] <BenPA> I know vmware but I was wondering if there was something else
[11:08] <filthpig1> shad-99: I believe using cedega would be better
[11:08] <filthpig1> BenPA: kvm
[11:08] <filthpig1> kernel vm
[11:08] <BenPA> oh
[11:09] <shad-99> ahh ok never heard about cdega? .. -Lolo
[11:09] <shad-99> lol
[11:09] <PFA> j0, i am having trouble figuring out how to link the buttons on my media keyboard to any actual function? i have seen !mediakeys and i'm at the thing in KControl but it seems to be generally useless...?
[11:09] <BenPA> have you ised it
[11:09] <filthpig1> shad-99: www.transgaming.com
[11:09] <BenPA> used
[11:09] <shad-99> no
[11:09] <_Anderson_>  how can I put that tool bar (like on MAC OS X) on kde?
[11:09] <filthpig1> BenPA: nope. I don't think my poor old Athlon XP 2500+ cpu can take it :P
[11:09] <shad-99> ahhh thanks alot.. gonna try it -bye m8
[11:09] <filthpig1> np, byes
[11:10] <BenPA> ok thanks
[11:11] <filthpig1> _Anderson_: I'm currently not using linux, but I think if you right-click on the panel and navigate from there you can find something
[11:11] <filthpig1> I've never used it, so I don't know exactly where it is
[11:12] <filthpig1> if you can't find it, google is always a neat little thing ;)
[11:12] <the_hammer> i got to figure out how to get floppy to work and how to adjust permissions on trash can
[11:12] <the_hammer> bout had it with kubuntu
[11:13] <the_hammer> 1 prob after the next
[11:13] <filthpig1> why floppy?
[11:13] <the_hammer> spent 3 hours or so to install all my media stuff i needed
[11:13] <the_hammer> got some docs i need
[11:13] <filthpig1> uh
[11:13] <filthpig1> what stuff did you need that apt could not supply?
[11:14] <the_hammer> some docs i got a floppy..its a pain sending from pc to pc when i could fix it so kubuntu could open a floppy
[11:14] <the_hammer> thats 1
[11:15] <the_hammer> then my trash can wont let me emty it
[11:15] <filthpig1> oO
[11:15] <the_hammer> i click on properties and permissions and it wont let me edit its all greyed
[11:15] <filthpig1> hm
[11:15] <the_hammer> cant log in as root cuz its disabled
[11:15] <the_hammer> wich is stupid
[11:15] <filthpig1> disabled?!
[11:15] <filthpig1> erh
[11:15] <the_hammer> its the only linux distro i tried that wont let u log in as a root user
[11:16] <filthpig1> it's for safety
[11:16] <filthpig1> and you can use sudo
[11:16] <the_hammer> ya sudo su
[11:16] <the_hammer> then i made a short cut for editing files and stuff
[11:17] <the_hammer> kmenuedit then command konqueror --profile filemanagement :)
[11:17] <the_hammer> called it super duper user
[11:17] <the_hammer> works
[11:17] <the_hammer> log in as different user and it goes for root to allow u to over write files and crap
[11:18] <the_hammer> learned that from mepis
[11:18] <the_hammer> only thing id say that kubuntu gots going for it its easy to update the kernels and easy to update to most current kde
[11:18] <the_hammer> rest id say is a pain in the arse
[11:19] <the_hammer> im fighting with myself not to ditch it but seems im running into prob after prob
[11:19] <orient2000> './configure --prefix=kde-config --prefix'  what is a prefix? what should I type?
[11:20] <beta> the_hammer: what exactly do you mean by media stuff?
[11:20] <the_hammer> libdvdcss and libdvdcss2 and w32codes
[11:21] <PFA> j0, i am having trouble figuring out how to link the buttons on my media keyboard to any actual function? i have seen !mediakeys and i'm at the thing in KControl but it seems to be generally useless...?
[11:21] <the_hammer> easy to install but was difficult to find a place to d/l them all
[11:21] <the_hammer> most links refer to dead links
[11:21] <mrbrdo> hello guys
[11:21] <the_hammer> 3hrs later i got everything i wanted done
[11:22] <mrbrdo> i have a problem with video4linux, i'm getting the error "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". i am using the nvidia drivers installed via envy, and glxinfo says direct rendering: Yes
[11:22] <the_hammer> no problems with java and flash players or video or audio formats and streams and all that
[11:23] <orient2000> './configure --prefix=kde-config --prefix'  what is a prefix? what should I type?
[11:23] <filthpig> anyway, you can edit your permissions under system settings, user accounts
[11:23] <filthpig> orient2000: depends on what you're doing, heh
[11:23] <beta> the_hammer: yep, i kinda feel the same...(k)ubuntu suffers from bad manuals
[11:23] <orient2000> I try to configure install kdenlive
[11:24] <mrbrdo> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode anyone knows anything about this error?
[11:24] <filthpig> beta: most ubuntu manuals are also valid for kubuntu
[11:24] <the_hammer> that and poor support
[11:24] <the_hammer> i looked at user/accounts and such and it was to no avail
[11:25] <filthpig> click "Administrator mode" in the bottom right corner
[11:25] <the_hammer> i did that
[11:25] <beta> filth: yes, but a lot are outdated...not well structured ect. its understandable if you start out such a big project like ubuntu is...with several ports versions and all
[11:25] <filthpig> and then you can add groups of stuff you want permission to edit
[11:25] <the_hammer> yeah lol beta alot of stuff i red was dated dec 2002
[11:25] <beta> but ist a apin in the ass for beginers....as it is is for people maintaining the manuals and how tos ;)
[11:25] <the_hammer> not much for 2007 for what i needed heh
[11:25] <beta> a pain
[11:25] <the_hammer> and the links from dec 2002 were dead links
[11:26] <the_hammer> a 5 min task took me 3 friggen hours
[11:26] <the_hammer> if i had a distro with rpms man id be stylin heh
[11:26] <filthpig> most of the non-updated howtos are not updated because a) there's a built-in fix for it in kubuntu, or b) it's still a valid howto
[11:27] <the_hammer> i say slack is best
[11:27] <filthpig> the_hammer: what did you want to do?
[11:27] <the_hammer> no muss no fuss
[11:27] <filthpig> hha
[11:27] <filthpig> and you talk about stuff taking five minutes?
[11:28] <the_hammer> yup
[11:28] <filthpig> "I'll go make some coffee while this small app is compiling"
[11:28] <the_hammer> kubuntu is most difficult cuz most methods i use are root and root is disabled
[11:28] <the_hammer> so finding work arounds takes forever yes
[11:29] <Jonty> the_hammer: you know about sude, don't you?
[11:29] <Jonty> *sudo
[11:29] <the_hammer> more so when ppl dunno whatcha want or know how to
[11:29] <the_hammer> yup
[11:29] <the_hammer> sudo su
[11:29] <Jonty> how about sudo bash?
[11:29] <Parkotron> !k3b
[11:29] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[11:29] <the_hammer> su i get autherize failed
[11:29] <Jonty> if you really want a root shell
[11:29] <Jonty> tried sudo?
[11:30] <the_hammer> i like opening another session and using root that way
[11:30] <the_hammer> then i point/click and do what i want
[11:30] <filthpig2> cheese
[11:30] <the_hammer> and log out
[11:30] <Jonty> the_hammer: it's as simple as sudo bash
[11:30] <beta> why does neither ff nor konqueror accepts localhost as port for proxy?
[11:30] <Jonty> and you know running GUIs as root that weren't intended to be run as such is dangerous?
[11:30] <beta> it keeps resetting to 0 or 127
[11:31] <crackhead_25> how do i setup the guest account for my kubuntu?
[11:31] <crackhead_25> how does that guest account work?
[11:32] <beta> the_hammer: why did you choose to install kubuntu instead of sticking to slack..or what ever distro you were using, just interested?
[11:33] <rdecosta> hi
[11:33] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with setting up and configuring samba
[11:33] <Jonty> hehe, that's the great thing about linux community support - it'll tell you to stop using a distro if it's not right
[11:33] <beta> jonty: no not at all...i really were just curious
[11:33] <beta> im a noob anyway
[11:34] <filthpig2> well, he was attacking kubuntu because it didn't work the way he was used to
[11:34] <filthpig2> which is quite lame
[11:34] <beta> i dont think he did
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: he cant access sudo
[11:34] <filthpig2> he did
[11:34] <beta> nothing is perfect kubuntu has its flaws as anything else obviously
[11:35] <beta> guess its ok to say that
[11:35] <filthpig2> he said "this and that is stupid because it's not how I want to do it"
[11:35] <crackhead_25> what if i just want to save my current session, keep it running, but let someone else start a new session which can't access my home/root folders?
[11:35] <crackhead_25> i.e. let a guest use my computer to check email etc.?
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: you can edit the permissions for any user and what group he is part of
[11:36] <filthpig2> the flaws he talked about were not flaws, he tried to do it in the way of another operating system
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> he/she*
[11:36] <beta> filthpig: hehe yep i guess its safe to say he wasnt very patient with sudo ;)
[11:36] <crackhead_25> how do i do what i just asked, though--i.e. keep my current session running, but without it being accessible to the guest, and let the guest use a new session?
[11:36] <beta> but he got a point with the manuals though
[11:36] <beta> imho
[11:37] <filthpig2> maybe
[11:37] <filthpig2> Yet I have not had a single problem that has not been solved through howtos and friendly people in here
[11:38] <beta> crack: er, how could a guest login to your session without your password anyway?
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: yep, all users are seen as separate accounts, you can edit your /home directory permissions to block anyone from reading your user files with konqueror
[11:39] <filthpig2> It mostly doesn't matter if the howto is written for breezy, edgy or whatever
[11:39] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: permissions in Linux are allot more stricter then windows by default
[11:39] <CaBlGuY> !Beryl
[11:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:40] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: I think your main problem is your thinking Linux works a bit like windows in that if a person can run the same app he can see the same things, nope, apps are shared but not user space files
[11:41] <morvok> has anyone installed rivatv on Kubuntu?
[11:42] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: the way you looks at Linux is to think of the machines as being split in two, there is the system that only root can access or change and there are the users,  users can only edit their /home/username  nothing else, even your users program settings are all in /home/username
[11:45] <Jonty> where are lock files kept?
[11:46] <mike__> Hey
[11:46] <mike__> Fluxbox is coooooooool
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> Jonty: varies a bit  /var/spool/lock is one place
[11:47] <Jonty> ok
[11:47] <ab12> hello guys
[11:47] <ab12> whats the package name for skype
[11:47] <ab12> I mean repo?
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> Jonty: whats locked ?
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> ab12: skype
[11:47] <mike__> why don't download it from the Skype page?
[11:47] <Jonty> well, I'm trying to run a vmware image, and it says it can't access the disk image because it's locked
[11:48] <ab12> Linux_Galore: I don't have any skpye
[11:48] <ab12> at least not in those repos
[11:48] <Jonty> "Cannot open the disk '/home/jadh/Downloads/Syllable 0.6.3/Syllable.vmdk' or one of the snapshot disks it depends on.
[11:48] <Jonty> Reason: Failed to lock the file."
[11:49] <ab12> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10825/
[11:49] <Jonty> aha, they've got weird permissions
[11:49] <klrtmto> hello humans
[11:49] <ab12> my sources.list
[11:49] <ab12> can someone tell me what repo do I need so I can isntall skype??
[11:49] <ab12> please
[11:49] <Jonty> hmm, still doesn't work
[11:50] <crackhead_25> linux_galore: so what are the command strokes that i do to keep a current kde session running, open a new kde session for a guest user to use the various apps, and then return to the original kde session? (you're right i'm a newbie converting from windows.)
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> ab12: open your package manager view -> manage repositories   then add this line deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free  and save it
[11:51] <ab12> nevermind I found it
[11:51] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: I dont use vmware so i havent got a clue
[11:51] <ab12> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[11:51] <ab12> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[11:51] <crackhead_25> linux_galore: what does vmware have to do with anything? what's vmware?
[11:51] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: sorry wrong person
[11:52] <Jonty> haha
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: use the "switch user" option in the meanu
[11:54] <Linux_Galore> menu*
[11:54] <Linux_Galore> crackhead_25: that keep the old session running
[11:54] <Linux_Galore> keeps*
[11:55] <faLUCE> Hi. I have a binary file splitted in three files: file1, file2 and file3. Which is the command which recompose the file? thnks
[11:57] <beta> can you guys reach irc.selflinux.org
[11:57] <beta> ?
[11:57] <beta> if so i still have a dns issue :/
[11:58] <Jonty> beta: 64 bytes from h746995.serverkompetenz.net (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=50.9 ms
[11:58] <Ash-Fox> There used to be this option to tell konqueror to remember setting for each folder rather than globally. But I just can't find it anymore, anybody know where it is?
[11:58] <Jonty> beta: ie yes
[11:58] <beta> Ash-fox: i wondered about that to
[11:58] <beta> thx guys...great still dns isues then
[11:58] <beta> can ping it to :/
[12:00] <crackhead_25> how do i make all my current user folders private so that other users of the computer can't access them? is that done with "permissions"?
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, I do believe they are already setup that way.
[12:01] <crackhead_25> can i select user permissions even for external hard drives?
[12:01] <crackhead_25> they aren't setup yet that way. i made a new user, guest, signed in, and tested it, and you could access everything except the desktop folder
[12:01] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, yes, although it will be manual options you will need to set with UIDs/GIDs in /etc/fstab
[12:02] <crackhead_25> i.e. you could still access all the user's folders that weren't in the desktop folder
[12:02] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, did you try to access any files in those folders?
[12:02] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, you shouldn't of been able to read from them.
[12:02] <crackhead_25> yeah, you could access everything, it seemed
[12:02] <Ash-Fox> Directory listings - okay, reading from files - shouldn't be happening.
[12:03] <RadiantFire> simple remove the "execute" permission from the relevant folders for other groups
[12:03] <RadiantFire> and the will no longer be able to enter them
[12:03] <beta> crackhead_25:  were you still logged in as root maybe (from creating account)?
[12:03] <crackhead_25> hm
[12:03] <crackhead_25> i closed that admin window, though..
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> Either way, you could probably fix this by doing 'cd /home && sudo chmod 700 *' from the console.
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> Either way, you could probably fix this by doing 'cd /home && sudo chmod -R 700 *' from the console.
[12:05] <crackhead_25> oy vey.. now, after switching from one kde session to the other, now my mouse cursor has disappeared! i can't see the mouse cursor! (though i still sense the mouse moving--because the buttons highlight and unhighlight when i move the thing)
[12:05] <kristjans> hello
[12:05] <kristjans> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[12:05] <Ash-Fox> crabstic, sorry, I can't help you with that. But probably logging out and restarting X will fix the issue.
[12:06] <crackhead_25> who's crabstic?
[12:06] <Yeason> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know where to start?
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> I meant crackhead_25
[12:06] <crackhead_25> how do i restart x without losing my current kde session?
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> Nickname autocomplete wasn't being helpful :P
[12:06] <beta> kristjans: ps | less lists your processes...the use killall processname to terminate it
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, you can't.
[12:06] <beta> the = then
[12:06] <kristjans> beta: thank you
[12:06] <Ash-Fox> crackhead_25, but kde can save sessions.
[12:07] <crackhead_25> argghh i thought linux was supposed to be so much more solid than this?
[12:07] <morvok> mplater- error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[12:07] <morvok> mplayer.
[12:07] <Jonty> crackhead_25: can you restart your computer without losing your operating system session?
[12:08] <Jonty> and Ash-Fox is right, KDE can save sessions.
[12:08] <crackhead_25> jonty: how do i do that?
[12:08] <Jonty> It's a setting somewhere in the control centre
[12:08] <beta> crackhead: i think kdes default setting is to restore the klast session anyway...so you can logout and then choose restart x session from the menu
[12:08] <beta> not 100 % sure though
[12:08] <RadiantFire> morvok: are you running it straight from the menu?
[12:09] <wimpies> what is the difference betwee linux-...-386 and ...-generic versions of the kernel ?
[12:09] <beta> im on dapper and per default it restores my last sessions
[12:09] <Jonty> wimpies: I assume 386 is more optimised for i886
[12:09] <wimpies> and related, which kernel headers should I preserve ?
[12:10] <wimpies> jonty : donno, my generic works just as good as the 386
[12:10] <morvok> RadiantFire: yes, I ran it from the menu looking for an error because Kaffiene refuses to load the video too.
[12:10] <RadiantFire> morvok: by chance, what video card do you have?
[12:10] <Jonty> wimpies: You'd only notice a slight difference, if any
[12:10] <kristjans> now what
[12:10] <morvok> RadiantFire: a nvidia geforce and 2 ati Radeons.  it worked before last reboot.
[12:10] <wimpies> jonty : question is which should I prefer having a Intel dual core duo
[12:10] <kristjans> "Incorrect nice value ... Please enter an integer between -20 and 19."
[12:11] <cosmo_>  I'm fairly new to the ubuntu OS and I have come across about 5 different ways, what is the best way for me to install the newest Nvidia drivers?
[12:12] <Jonty> cosmo_: whichever is easiest for you
[12:12] <RadiantFire> morvok: I dunno, maybe its being weird, however, if you run it from the cli, it will generally work. I have the problem sometimes, it just happens on some files though
[12:12] <Jonty> probably the one which involves as little stuff that isn't related to apt-get