[01:55] <topyli> xakkkk: so we just hunt them down
[01:55] <xakkkk> topyli, doesnt ./configure tell you which libs or other software youre missing?
[01:55] <liable> auto-apt
[01:55] <topyli> xakkkk: then build packages and install them so that the package management knows about them
[01:56] <xenonite> Q: How can I enable the Clearlooks-GTK-Engine when running IceWM?
[01:56] <topyli> xakkkk: it does. but it doesn't say which package containst the lib in debian, redhat, suse...
[01:56] <tanath> in debian i had an xmms applet in gnome, but it's not available to add in ubuntu... do i need to install something?
[01:57] <fluxt> xenonite: i know this.. i do.. i'll just check
[01:57] <ahmeta> clem_yeats : do u here
[01:57] <xenonite> fluxt, thanks
[01:57] <kristopher> Everytime I login to Ubuntu (Dapper), nautilus doens't start and I have no desktop
[01:57] <kristopher> I have to login to Ubuntu as "Failsafe Gnome"
[01:57] <kristopher> Any ideas, Thank you -- Kris
[01:58] <Healot> Dapper... #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <topyli> kristopher: it's dapper, what did you expect :)
[01:58] <Healot> it is not really a stable release right now, in fact it's a test version
[01:58] <fluxt> xenonite: i can't remember how i did it exactly, but you might want to run gnome-theme-manager
[01:58] <Healot> use at own risk
[01:58] <fluxt> xenonite: i'll keep looking for what i did
[01:58] <Healot> gnome-theme-manager, yes
[01:58] <kristopher> I understand, but it seeems like something to do with nautiulus not starting up ( i had a similar issue in breezy)
[01:59] <Healot> I don't :)
[01:59] <xenonite> fluxt, okay thank you! i found a similar solution with the xfce-theme-manager
[01:59] <fluxt> ok
[01:59] <xakkkk> the reason im asking is because i tried to install gsynaptics on breezy and i kept getting errors from ./configure that i was missing libraries, so i started wondering if a software could be written that could take a .tar archive for example, extract it run the config file and figure all the dependencies, download them and install the program itself...that doesnt sound impossible...does it?
[01:59] <xenonite> fluxt, i just hoped to find a way around...
[01:59] <kristopher> What would happen if this was Breezy?
[01:59] <Juhaz> xenonite, put gtk-theme-name = "blah" in ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[01:59] <hayden> i treid to compile the latest mplayer and i got this error, any ideas --- Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation
[01:59] <topyli> krischan: try to start nautilus from a terminal and see what happens
[02:00] <xenonite> Juhaz, thanks, i try
[02:00] <ahmeta> healot i couldnt configre grated it need so many libraries
[02:00] <ahmeta> :)
[02:00] <ahmeta> can i download from repositiors latest version
[02:00] <fluxt> Juhaz: that's what i did! :)
[02:00] <kristopher> What is the priority that init scripts are excuted?
[02:00] <Healot> ahmeta, i told, it is very very intimidating, just use the current rlease...
[02:00] <Healot> yes, it is on the repos...
[02:00] <kristopher> So maybe I can find out where this problem is happening
[02:00] <ahmeta> hmm ok
[02:01] <Healot> kristopher, depends on the number in front of script link...
[02:01] <Bilange> xakkkk: it doesnt sound impossible in some way, although I wonder how one script could get "whats needed" then installing ("make install") so the main ./configure script would figure out its then installed
[02:01] <kristopher> Where should I start?
[02:01] <ahmeta> i will try live cd verison for gparted ?
[02:01] <Healot> for example S02 starts first and then S99 starts last
[02:01] <Healot> ahmeta, try... might work for you
[02:01] <vivek> my connection to internet is adsl, though i can log in this xchat, i cant  surf the internet... iget time out message..what do i do?
[02:01] <Juhaz> fluxt, no doubt, there aren't _that_ many ways of doing the same thing :)
[02:01] <topyli> kristopher: nautilus is started by gnome-session, not an init script
[02:01] <kristopher> where is S** located?
[02:01] <ahmeta> do u know any app for iso burn
[02:02] <Healot> in /etc/rc* folders
[02:02] <kristopher> Why would nautilus not start?
[02:02] <xakkkk> Bilange, i think its pretty simple to do it
[02:02] <vivek> my connection to internet is adsl, though i can log in this xchat, i cant  surf the internet... iget time out message..what do i do?
[02:02] <topyli> kristopher: start it from a terminal and see
[02:02] <tanath> how do i get xmms controls  on my gnome panel?
[02:02] <Bilange> vivek: did you try to resolve an addres manually? like 'ping www.google.com'?
[02:02] <kristopher> Obviously it's a startup script issue, otherwise it wouldnt work with failsafe
[02:02] <Healot> nautilus cd burner is enough... ahmeta
[02:02] <vivek> it pings..
[02:02] <ahmeta> thnx a lot
[02:02] <vivek> it pings every where else.
[02:02] <kristopher> when I run natulius from terminal it just spits out a GTK error (because X is already running)
[02:03] <vivek> i mean it ping alrite..
[02:03] <topyli> kristopher: no, it's an issue with your gnome session
[02:03] <Healot> if you prefer, try NeroLinux, hehe... this one's a bum
[02:03] <frank_> !frostwire
[02:03] <ubotu> I guess frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[02:03] <topyli> kristopher: in terminal not console
[02:03] <xenonite> Juhaz, thank you! It works very well now :-)
[02:03] <Bilange> now thats strange-- how about tracerouting to some site?
[02:03] <topyli> kristopher: start a broken gnome session, run a terminal, start nautilus
[02:03] <deizi> finally, install cd wored
[02:03] <deizi> worked*
[02:04] <vivek> i mean it pings alrite..
[02:04] <Healot> vivek, which site are you trying to connect? using what browser...
[02:04] <kristopher> topyli, I tried that and it gives an error
[02:04] <vivek> i am trying to connect to mail.yahoo.com through firefox
[02:04] <topyli> kristopher: this error tells what?
[02:04] <vivek> i hv no proxy settings on..
[02:04] <kristopher> topyli, when I do that I only get a blank screen (I have to CTRL+ALT+DEL to get a sys monitor), and I CTRL+ALT+F2 to get a terminal
[02:04] <Healot> try other website, vivek ?
[02:05] <vivek> so i am dirctly connecting to net
[02:05] <kristopher> it says something about not aquiring the X system
[02:05] <Healot> nay problem to me...
[02:05] <Bilange> actually my adsl provider sometimes gets partially down, as in I cannot get to anything more or less outside my province (router issue here), so it may be your case
[02:05] <vivek> same thing..
[02:05] <topyli> kristopher: oh its not nautilus at all then. your whole gnome session isn't starting
[02:05] <shrewduser> hey can someone give me a hand with wine?
[02:05] <vivek> i does download all the ubuntu updates for me tho.
[02:05] <kristopher> is there anything I can do, maybe fiddle with my session attributes?
[02:05] <alan|laptop> hi all
[02:05] <Healot> vivek, are youi busy downloading other stuff?
[02:05] <shrewduser> ubuntu is giving me sass.....
[02:05] <vivek> nothing.
[02:06] <vivek> infact i wnt to do an apt-get update.
[02:06] <vivek> bt cant do it.. :(
[02:06] <Jae686> is it possible to get ubunbtu 2.14 under breezy ?
[02:06] <Storkme> hi, when i use Grip cd ripper and encoder it often freezes while ripping. i think this is becuase i'm using a dev-version. how can i install an older version?
[02:06] <topyli> kristopher: do other users get nice desktops? if you don't have another user, create one and check
[02:06] <Healot> yes
[02:06] <vivek> i am running 64bit ver
[02:06] <sorryd> my volume control shows two devices, but only one seems to do anything. Is that normal?
[02:06] <kristopher> how can i create another user?
[02:06] <kristopher> I'm new to all of this :(
[02:06] <Bilange> Jae686: did you mean Gnome 2.14, by any chance? ;) (anyways i dont know this answer)
[02:06] <Healot> if you do not install the default ubuntu's gnome...
[02:06] <kristopher> (sorry)
[02:06] <alan|laptop> I am about to reinstall dapper flight 5, but i don't know on wich partition i should set the boot flag : the first one on the disk or the / one ?
[02:06] <Jae686> yes
[02:06] <Jae686> gnome 2.14
[02:07] <Jae686> :P
[02:07] <vivek> if i type the ip addr of yahoo.com it says transfering data from the ip addr, and then hangs up
[02:07] <Healot> vivek, okay... do you have any other browser?
[02:07] <Jae686> my mistake :P
[02:07] <irvin> alan|laptop the root (/)
[02:07] <topyli> kristopher: in console, use "sudo adduser"
[02:07] <alan|laptop> irvin: thanks
[02:07] <alan|laptop> let's reinstall, then
[02:07] <Healot> vivek, tried "ping", "telnet", traceroute?
[02:07] <vivek> i do not.. it is not shipped wit this distritbution i guess
[02:08] <JDahl> vivek, I didnt follow all you said - did you screw up networking by dist-upgrading AMD64 Breezy to Dapper? That happened to me yesterday, and requires abit network tweaking at every boot
[02:08] <vivek> how do i use comman line browser?
[02:08] <kristopher> brb, I'll login as him
[02:08] <Bilange> im not sure it would be provided as a .deb package (inside apt-get), my bet would be that you'd need to compile it yourself, but im not well informed on that subject
[02:08] <dollar> how can i log in as root? when i try putting root and its password, i gotta message sayin it's not allowed
[02:08] <vivek> i didnt touch ne of those things..
[02:08] <vivek> i mean i dnt undrstand, how am i able to chat here, bt not surf?
[02:08] <dollar> i need to log as root in order to see my ntfs drives in order to view some files
[02:09] <vivek> dollar: root logins are not allowed in X
[02:09] <Healot> dollar, just use "sudo"
[02:09] <Bilange> Healot: he at least tried ping, from what I know
[02:09] <vivek> u hv to log in as a non root user and then do a su (switch user)
[02:09] <dollar> so there's no other solution?
[02:09] <Healot> in ubuntu "sudo" is the keyword to root administration :)
[02:09] <Bilange> dollar: if you need a root command line, type in 'sudo -i'
[02:09] <dollar> i have kubunto
[02:09] <xris> Okay it worked when I logged in as a different account
[02:10] <xris> <-- (Kristopher as a different account)
[02:10] <xris> can I copy my configuration over or something?
[02:10] <Healot> vivek, any success in ping?
[02:10] <vivek> it does ping...
[02:10] <_mustard> dollar: have you set up your options in /etc/fstab correctly for mounting your ntfs partition?
[02:10] <vivek>  ping www.google.com
[02:10] <vivek> PING www.l.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:10] <vivek> 64 bytes from www.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=247 time=241 ms
[02:10] <vivek> 64 bytes from www.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=247 time=242 ms
[02:10] <Healot> dollar, did you setup the root password?
[02:11] <Healot> sure.. vivek you're on
[02:11] <vivek> waiting :(
[02:11] <Healot> try "telnet www.google.com 80" >> see if you can actually connect to a webserver
[02:12] <dollar> i did setup the root password but about the options in /etc/fstab, i know nothing abt it
[02:12] <vivek> ereka!! it connects
[02:12] <sorryd> no ideas anyone?
[02:12] <sorryd> my volume control shows two devices, but only one seems to do anything. Is that normal?
[02:12] <_mustard> dollar: ok well that quite likely the problem then
[02:12] <Mabus06> write: you have the permission turned off     - how do I change th is?
[02:12] <dollar> so what should i do?
[02:12] <_mustard> dollar: hang on while i find something for you to read..
[02:13] <dollar> ok, thx man
[02:13] <vivek> ureka!!!!!
[02:13] <vivek> it did telnet into the google.com server..now
[02:13] <vivek> ?
[02:13] <Bilange> sorryd: yes and no, what you see there directly depends of what soundcard you have-- and I cant show you a screenshot of mine, because of that exact reason (since it will display different volume controls)(
[02:13] <vivek> wut does this mean?
[02:14] <_mustard> dollar: I'm downloading at the same time as I am browsing so give me a minute ..its pretty slow :)
[02:14] <sorryd> What I mean is that I have two devices in the "change device" thingy
[02:14] <Bilange> vivek: well, Healot tried to connect directly to google (as the web site), without the need of a web browser... now it sounds like somethings wrong in your [normal]  browser configuration
[02:15] <sorryd> They are 0: HDA INtel (Also mixer) and 1: Realtek (OSS mixer)
[02:15] <vivek> hmm.. so can i download a separate browser? using comman line?
[02:15] <vivek> how do i do it??
[02:15] <tanath> how do i get xmms controls  on my gnome panel?
[02:15] <Toma-> sorryd: do you have a on-board sound card and a sound card?
[02:15] <ferrervicent> i compiled the kernel with "sudo make-kpkg --append-to-version=1936 --initrd
[02:15] <ferrervicent> " but i don't view the .deb package
[02:15] <ahmeta> how can i erase cd in nautilus
[02:15] <ahmeta> ?
[02:15] <Bilange> vivek: theres a commandline browser available: 'sudo apt-get install links'
[02:16] <sorryd> Realtek changes the volume, but the ALSO one seems to be the one linked to my laptop's volume button
[02:16] <Bilange> sorryd: I have two browsers listed for me too, although I have a soundblaster :S
[02:16] <_mustard> dollar: you used the pastebin before?
[02:16] <Toma-> sorryd: you mean alsa?
[02:16] <_mustard> !tell dollar about pastebin
[02:16] <ferrervicent> http://pastebin.com/610529 this is the buildinfo
[02:16] <sorryd> yeah. sorry
[02:16] <sorryd> its a vaio laptop with one builtin chip (I presume)
[02:16] <vivek> kool... things movig now!!!
[02:16] <ferrervicent> and this http://pastebin.com/610524 the tail of the compilation
[02:17] <ferrervicent> i seems to run
[02:17] <ferrervicent> but i don't view the .deb
[02:17] <ferrervicent> :/
[02:17] <_mustard> dollar have a look at this link http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514926
[02:18] <Toma-> ferrervicent: compiling a kernel?
[02:18] <Bilange> sorryd: are you saying that you want your keyboard's special volume keys to act differently (we may have to walk a long road to the this work, then)
[02:18] <ferrervicent> yes
[02:18] <oops12> te
[02:18] <Toma-> ferrervicent: run "cd .." then "ls" ;)
[02:18] <sorryd> Bilange: in that case, I might leave the problem unresolved until I know what I am doing
[02:19] <sman> anyone installed fluxbox wm using apt-get?
[02:19] <sorryd> I thought the weird thing is that there are 2 devices shown
[02:20] <Toma-> sorryd: can you paste a copy of "lsmod" onto pastebin?
[02:20] <Bilange> sorryd: I just had an idea, im not sure if its possible, but we might tell the system to completly ignore the second (unused) soundcard when booting, leaving it without drivers loaded and such-- but I really don't know if its possible first :)
[02:20] <ferrervicent> vicent@casa1-ubuntu:/usr/src$ ls
[02:20] <ferrervicent> linux  linux-source-2.6.12  linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2  rpm
[02:20] <ferrervicent> vicent@casa1-ubuntu:/usr/src$
[02:20] <shrewduser> i'm having some issues with ubuntu... i think i've made a booboo and stuffed up the package management system... because installed packages aren't working correctly....
[02:20] <ferrervicent> it isn't here
[02:20] <sorryd> ok. wait a sec Toma
[02:20] <Toma-> ferrervicent: what method are you building that kernel with? and plz dont paste
[02:21] <Bilange> sorryd: my point is: your volume keys would then be mapped on the right soundcard, since there would be now _only one_ soundcard :)
[02:21] <sman> does anyone know how to confirm a package exists in the repositories?
[02:21] <ferrervicent> ok
[02:21] <Toma-> sman: 'apt-cache search --names-only packagename'
[02:21] <sman> thanks
[02:21] <ferrervicent> i'm building with "make-kpkg --append-to-version=1936 --initrd
[02:21] <ferrervicent> "
[02:21] <sorryd> yeah. sounds like a good workaround
[02:21] <Toma-> sman: or, 'apt-cache show packagename'
[02:22] <Bilange> Toma-: does searching in general in apt supports wildcards?
[02:22] <shrewduser> anyone know why apt would be screwing up for me?
[02:22] <Toma-> Bilange: yeh i think so
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> shrewduser: have you run `apt-get -f install`?
[02:22] <Bilange> heck, ill try
[02:22] <Toma-> shrewduser: 90% of the time, its bad sources
[02:22] <sman> no result I guess means the package isnt there
[02:22] <Toma-> sman: what package?
[02:22] <sman> fluxbox
[02:22] <Klaidas> when is the delay of dapper officlaily decided?
[02:22] <shrewduser> Kamping_Kaiser: apt-get -f install ????
[02:22] <Toma-> !info fluxbox
[02:23] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> shrewduser: yeh
[02:23] <Toma-> you need to enable universe sman
[02:23] <Bilange> Toma-: yeah, supports regexps :/
[02:23] <sman> i wasn following the wiki guide in ubuntu and it said you could, but the package isnt there
[02:23] <sorryd> Toma: with pastebin, do I just paste into the thing at pastebin.com? I have never even heard of it before today...
[02:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> Klaidas: it's been officaly declaired. just not offial emayet
[02:23] <shrewduser> Kamping_Kaiser: i have now...
[02:23] <hayden> whats a cd ripping program that can rip into mp3 (lame maybe)
[02:23] <shutdown> Hello everybody, I'm Shutdown and I'm 16. I come from Italy.
[02:23] <Klaidas> oh, ok
[02:23] <shrewduser> Kamping_Kaiser: what does that command do?
[02:23] <Toma-> sorryd: yep. copy and paste big chunks into there then put your name, and send. then give me the link to it
[02:23] <shutdown> Are there any Italian?
[02:24] <Suidroot> salve
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> shrewduser: open a terminal and run `sudo apt-get -f install`, it shoudl try and fix your systems installed packages
[02:24] <Chousuke> hmm
[02:24] <Chousuke> !it
[02:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:24] <ompaul> !it
[02:24] <ompaul> doh
[02:24] <shrewduser> Kamping_Kaiser: it ran, but only took a second...
[02:24] <shutdown> Boys, I want speak English..
[02:24] <Toma-> ferrervicent: have you got --stem linux in there?
[02:24] <shutdown> I don't want speak italian..
[02:25] <ompaul> shutdown, so do it :-)
[02:25] <shutdown> :))
[02:25] <Chousuke> shutdown: Then you can stay on this channel :)
[02:25] <sorryd> http://pastebin.com/610545
[02:25] <Bilange> hayden: lame only converts files (not cd's) to mp3s, ive had used 'sound-juicer' for cd ripping
[02:25] <sorryd> there is the link Toma-
[02:25] <Toma-> ferrervicent: i had to run 'sudo make-kpkg --initrd --stem linux --revision=toma0.0 kernel_image'
[02:25] <Toma-> thanks sorryd :)
[02:25] <shrewduser> i don't know why but i can't get my apt-install of wine to function correctly....
[02:25] <shutdown> Cio, in quanto italiano so parlare in italiano... per preferisco parlare in English
[02:25] <shutdown> ;)
[02:26] <Ivaldi> I've burned a DVD+R in Gnomebaker, and it worked great afterwards. But now, all the files don't appear on the disc
[02:26] <ferrervicent> Toma, "--stem linux" for what?
[02:26] <Ivaldi> I can see them all on the windows box, but not on my linux box
[02:26] <mson> Hey, can anyone help me getting X running on ubuntu?  I've got two nvidida geforce 6600gt cards in sli.  I get a blank screen with a cursor in the top left and can only access the console - any ideas?
[02:27] <shutdown> Can I create a double partition on my HDD ?
[02:27] <sorryd> mson... you could give one card to me. That will simplify things  :p
[02:27] <shutdown> I want install Linux and Winzozz...
[02:27] <mson> sorryd - sorry, d - no can do!
[02:28] <Milamber> Hello.  Has anyone ever had an issue where, when issuing a restart, the syste, simply freezes after th output "Restarting system..." comes up, and I have to press reset to make it reboot?
[02:28] <shutdown> Milamber I don't know...
[02:28] <sorryd> Milamber, that happens with my laptop
[02:28] <shutdown> :-S
[02:28] <Healot> nay... Milamber
[02:29] <shutdown> Che significa nay ?
[02:29] <shrewduser> is there anyway to refresh the entire system? i'm getting strange dependancy issues... no idea what's going on....
[02:29] <JDahl> shutdown, yes, dualboot has worked flawlessly for more than 10 years
[02:29] <_mustard> Milamber: only on dapper today for me
[02:29] <shutdown> "nay" che significa?
[02:29] <Toma-> sorryd: i cant see 2 devices that would use a sound mixer...
[02:29] <Milamber> Hmm.  I'm grabbing newest kernel right now through a dist-upgrade, maybe it'll help.  This is on breeze, freshly installed.
[02:29] <Milamber> Ehrm, breezy..  Damn typos today.
[02:29] <sorryd> you can fix it by adding reboot=h at the end of a line in /boot/grup/menu.lst
[02:29] <_mustard> Milamber: could you get to a console with ctrl + alt + f1
[02:29] <sorryd> at least thats what I did
[02:30] <Milamber> sorryd:  If I cant find anything else, I'll have to try that out.
[02:31] <Healot> they don;t know i bribed...
[02:31] <Milamber> I saw a few posts about that on the forums, but hadn't tried them out yet..  I really wonder what it has to do with though.  Maybe it's this shuttle motherboard, or something.
[02:31] <damian_> what do i type to stop gdm from respawning?
[02:31] <damian_> i forgot what i have to close
[02:31] <Trae> ubotu, acx111?
[02:31] <ubotu> Trae: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:31] <sorryd> Toma-: thanks for looking. I suppose I shall have to grin and bear it for now
[02:31] <ompaul> damian_, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:31] <damian_> thanks
[02:31] <shutdown> JDahl, I have got three partition: Windows (FAT32), UbuntuLinux (EXT3), SwapPartition (SWAP)... Can I format Windows and reinstall it? I don't want format Linux!!
[02:32] <damian_> trying out this athene desktop
[02:32] <damian_> looks good
[02:32] <Toma-> sorryd: yeh :/ give the dapper flight 5 livecd a spin and see if its resolved. otherwise, report a bug! :D
[02:32] <ompaul> !tell shutdown about grub
[02:32] <ompaul> shutdown, you can be careful and read that web page before you do
[02:32] <shutdown> ompaul, thnx very much.
[02:33] <JDahl> shutdown, You can just reinstall windows with reformating anything then. Make sure you have a rescue disk or CD to boot in linux to rerun Grub, though, as Windows will probably overwrite the bootmanager
[02:33] <JDahl> shutdown, reinstall windows *without* reformating...
[02:33] <ompaul> Frogzoo_,  I was looking for you what is that link we discussed eariler
[02:33] <shutdown> JDahl come faccio?
[02:34] <Frogzoo_> !fixinstall
[02:34] <ubotu> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall for resolving common installer problems
[02:34] <ompaul> Frogzoo, :-)
[02:34] <Frogzoo_> ;)
[02:34] <sorryd> cheers Toma-. I will give it a try
[02:34] <shutdown> JDahl, how reinstall it without format?
[02:34] <JDahl> shutdown, reinstall windows the regular way - you dont to manually reformat the disk
[02:35] <shutdown> JDahl, Uhm ... I don't know... Sorry, I speak Italian :-))
[02:36] <ompaul> shutdown, so use #ubuntu-it
[02:36] <Storkme> hi, i'm having trouble installing grip from the source - when i use ./configure it tells me: "configure: error: Library requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."
[02:36] <shutdown> no, I want speak English. :-)
[02:36] <Milamber> Oh well.  Kernel update didn't help.
[02:37] <chuckyp> Storkme: did you install build-session
[02:37] <ompaul> Storkme, so you started with sudo apt-get source grip ?
[02:37] <chuckyp> Storkme: sorry build-essential
[02:37] <Healot> why ubuntu doesn't include the "bare-essential", hehe
[02:38] <chuckyp> Storkme: did you install build-essential
[02:38] <ompaul> Healot, perhaps your average ubuntu user does not need it (funny same situation in debian)
[02:41] <_mustard> Storkme: what version of libgnomeui do you have installed atm?
[02:43] <Keen> where can i find a kernel built with gcc4?
[02:43] <Storkme> chuckyp, apt-get install build-essential is apprently the latest version
[02:43] <Keen> the default one is built with gcc3.4 and it comes with gcc3 and 4.0
[02:43] <Keen> i need it to build network drivers
[02:44] <Healot> Keen, kernel.org... or ubuntu's own kernel source
[02:44] <ompaul> Keen, not in ubuntu
[02:44] <sebastian> hey
[02:44] <Keen> ompaul, ?
[02:44] <sebastian> is there any way to download songs from ipod to disk?
[02:44] <ompaul> all 2.6 standard kernels and 2.4 ones were made with 3.4
[02:44] <_mustard> Storkme: do an apt-cache search libgnomeui    and see what packages there are to install and what version they are
[02:45] <Zarephath> Is there a gnome applet that will track disk usage?     Who can tell why?
[02:45] <sebastian> Healot: and which one is it?
[02:45] <Keen> ok
[02:45] <Keen> thats stupid
[02:45] <Healot> sebastian, "gtkpod" in universe/multimedia section
[02:46] <sebastian> wicked
[02:46] <sebastian> thanks
[02:46] <Trae> :(  I have this card: Netgear WG311 v2   (a wireless card [pci]  for my desktop)  and it was working for several months and then recently it just stopped working.  I'm on Ubuntu Breezy
[02:46] <Zarephath> sebastian: What filesystem is the iPod formatted in?
[02:46] <Healot> "banshee" or "ipod" or "gnupod-tools", just choose one... that suits you
[02:46] <sebastian> I didn't know gtkpod can do that, i must say its gui suxx
[02:47] <sudharsh> oh oh...anyone help me
[02:47] <ompaul> !anyone
[02:47] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:47] <sudharsh> i screwed up my panels
[02:47] <Healot> GUI sucks, but it works... that the only thing that matters :)
[02:47] <sebastian> Zarephath: if only i knew
[02:47] <sudharsh> oh sorry
[02:47] <sudharsh> i scrwed up my panel
[02:47] <ompaul> Keen, I don't concur, and nor will I argue.
[02:47] <Zarephath> sebastian: Well what did you have it hooked to before trying to run linux?
[02:47] <sudharsh> i added the blog entry poster and it keeps on restarting and crashing
[02:47] <sudharsh> what do i do now
[02:48] <dollar> look guys i managed to preview my ntfs drives and copy pasted some of my music.. now the problem is that sometime the XMMS reads them and sometimes it says that there's no audio driver.. any idea?
[02:48] <sebastian> Zarephath: the first program i used with my ipod was gtkpod
[02:48] <cA1mAn> hey, is the (k)ubuntu team planning to install XARA XTREME (Opensource, http://www.xaraxtreme.org/), wich is BY FAR the BEST VECTOR DESIGN program for linux, on a default ubuntu image?
[02:48] <Keen> ok w/o argueing here is my point.. how am i supposed to build custom drivers on a stock install?
[02:48] <sebastian> it created some dirs and files
[02:48] <sudharsh> what do i don now...what wqas the command to kill the gnome-panel
[02:48] <Chousuke> Hm
[02:49] <Healot> maybe, cA1mAn ? if you voted for it?
[02:49] <robinl1> Powdered toast man
[02:49] <Chousuke> Ubuntu's bootsplash doesn't work for some reason
[02:49] <_mustard> dollar: what is the file format of those that it can't play?
[02:49] <Zarephath> sebastian: Ok I assumed you may have had it on a Mac, or PC first....If it is formatted HFSPLUS filesytem by macintosh that would be another problem...
[02:49] <bungle> !limewire
[02:49] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[02:49] <dollar> mp3
[02:49] <cA1mAn> Healot: where can i vote for it?
[02:49] <ompaul> Healot, voting?
[02:49] <Chousuke> granted, this installation is somewhat customised
[02:49] <bungle> !frostwire
[02:49] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[02:49] <Chousuke> but just installing usplash doesn't seem to be enough.
[02:49] <Ribs> !frostwire
[02:49] <Ribs> oops
[02:49] <sudharsh> ahh..i'll try uninstallin the buggy software
[02:49] <Ribs> beat me too it :>
[02:49] <dollar> it's the same files, sometimes it play sometimes not
[02:49] <Toma-> ubotu: tell cA1mAn about motu
[02:49] <Healot> well, say something to the team, send email... it's not really voting process :)
[02:49] <cA1mAn> ok
[02:49] <_mustard> dollar: hmm ok
[02:50] <Healot> just a term I used...
[02:50] <Toma-> cA1mAn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New
[02:50] <_mustard> dollar: sounds very strange
[02:51] <Storkme> _mustard, do i want libgnomeui-dev ?
[02:51] <andrius> hello all
[02:51] <_mustard> Storkme: thats sound pretty good :)  what version is it?
[02:51] <_mustard> Storkme: try apt-cache show libgnomeui-dev
[02:51] <Storkme> _mustard, libgnomeui-dev (2.12.0-0ubuntu1)
[02:51] <Storkme> sounds about riught :D
[02:52] <_mustard> Storkme: I can't recall whether what the compiler complained about now :)
[02:52] <_mustard> Storkme: thats the way to go though
[02:52] <dollar> yeah i know.. look my story is that i have 2 OS.. windows and linux.. and i need them both for my university... so i need to open my files from any of those operating system.. that's y i wanted to login as root.. plus i don't know exactly how to use the shel... it's been a week since i installed linux
[02:52] <_mustard> Storkme: rinse and repeat the process for all missing dependencies ;)
[02:52] <andrius> I'm having trouble recognizing my CD/DVD ROM......It's a Matshita uj-832 that came with a fujitsu lifebook p7120....can anyone point me in the right direction....??
[02:52] <Storkme> now it's complaining again: "error: Library requirements (vte) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.", so i should search for the 'vte' package and install it?
[02:53] <cA1mAn> hmm, why is xara xtreme not on this MOTU
[02:53] <_mustard> dollar: I gave you instructions on how to fix that earlier
[02:53] <cA1mAn> it's time to add it
[02:53] <andrius> It appears to find it.....but here's the error I'm getting:
[02:53] <_mustard> dollar: then you left without answerting
[02:53] <andrius> [4294679.621000]  ata1: dev 0 ATAPI, max UDMA/33
[02:53] <andrius> [4294679.621000]  ata1(0): applying bridge limits
[02:53] <andrius> [4294679.623000]  ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/33
[02:53] <andrius> [4294679.824000]  ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
[02:53] <andrius> [4294680.025000]  ata3: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
[02:53] <andrius> [4294680.226000]  ata4: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
[02:53] <andrius> [4294680.226000]  ata1: error occurred, port reset
[02:53] <andrius> [4294680.226000]  ata1: error occurred, port reset
[02:53] <dollar> i didnt understand
[02:53] <andrius> [4294680.226000]  Assertion failed! qc->flags & ATA_QCFLAG_ACTIVE,drivers/scsi/libata-core.c,ata_qc_complete,line=3082
[02:53] <Zarephath> !tell andruis about pastebin
[02:53] <andrius> anyone got a suggestion?
[02:53] <Healot> cA1mAn, just tell them to add... they will consider... okay. i'll do that too
[02:53] <_mustard> dollar: its a good idea to ask for more help then
[02:54] <Zarephath> !tell andrius about pastebin
[02:54] <andrius> pastebin?
[02:54] <_mustard> dollar: the way you want to do it is not really the best way to go about it
[02:54] <cA1mAn> Healot, thanks! since i'm not registred :-)
[02:54] <dollar> thx man.. sorry if i am bothering
[02:54] <IdleOne> 1pastebin
[02:54] <andrius> oops
[02:54] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[02:54] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[02:54] <andrius> sorry:)
[02:54] <Healot> XARA is a good alternative
[02:54] <cA1mAn> Healot: look at http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ for good arguments ;-)
[02:54] <_mustard> dollar: have you used the pastebin before?
[02:55] <erofee> hi all
[02:55] <dollar> no, i don't know what it is
[02:55] <cA1mAn> XARA is even faster than Adobe illustraotr
[02:55] <_mustard> dollar: open this in your browser then http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:55] <jolly_> I hae some problems with my sound suddently it just stops
[02:55] <jolly_> it works when i login the its just stop working
[02:55] <dollar> ok.. then
[02:55] <_mustard> dollar: now do you know how to open a terminal?
[02:56] <Healot> well, I can't tell about the benchmark, cA1mAn, but I can tell it save some money :)
[02:56] <dollar> yeah
[02:56] <dollar> but idont know what to write their, i mean the commands
[02:56] <Zarephath> Hey I just noticed ubotu said to use webboard for easy pasting....apt-get install webboard doesn't find the program?
[02:56] <_mustard> dollar: I want to see your partitions..so do this command then paste the contents at that website and hit send..
[02:56] <_mustard> dollar: sudo fdisk -l
[02:56] <bungle> can anyone help me run frostwire?
[02:56] <cA1mAn> Healot, i have the program (for windows) and can tell that it IS THAT GOOD :-)
[02:56] <bungle> downloaded and dpkg -i
[02:57] <bungle> but wont run
[02:57] <_mustard> dollar: after you hit 'send', paste the new URL it creates in here, so I can see the page
[02:57] <IdleOne> Storkme>  not sure if you got your answer but libvte-dev is prolly what you need
[02:58] <Zarephath> Nevermind..typo in my command....those will get ya everytime...
[02:58] <Healot> I would like to try XARA later...
[02:58] <IdleOne> Storkme> you can apt-get it
[02:59] <dollar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10494  i think this is it
[02:59] <_mustard> IdleOne: he found a libgnomeui-dev package
[02:59] <Trae> Can anyone think of a reason off hand why my networking on my desktop could have gone to pot?  I can't even get a wired connection to work.
[02:59] <Storkme> okay, thought so
[02:59] <_mustard> dollar: ok..
[02:59] <Storkme> _mustard, next it complained about 'vte', that's what he was referring to :)
[02:59] <Trae> it's quite odd
[02:59] <fit4lfe> just installed vmware server and I have a winxp pro on it I want to be able to vnc into it but when I installed vnc server works find from host machine when I bring it up on linux but can't seem to remote in anyway else
[03:00] <_mustard> Storkme: ooop sorry IdleOne I missed that question :)
[03:00] <IdleOne> _mustard>  no problem
[03:01] <_mustard> dollar: ok now do this command and do a new pastebin with the contents....
[03:01] <_mustard> dollar: cat /etc/fstab
[03:01] <IdleOne> _mustard>  apt-cache search vte returns a few packages but Im guessing he needs libvte-dev. not certain what it is he is doing though
[03:01] <fit4lfe> does that have to do with the vm windows session or do I have to put the port in on hosts.allow ?
[03:01] <_mustard> IdleOne: yeah.. -dev ones usually do the job for me :)
[03:01] <bungle> can anyone recommend a p2p client?
[03:01] <IdleOne> _mustard>  thats what I figured :)
[03:01] <_jason> bungle: frostwire
[03:01] <IdleOne> !p2p
[03:01] <ubotu> somebody said p2p was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[03:02] <s_spiff> frostwire has some glitch..it freezes sometime..freezes the whole damn system!
[03:02] <dollar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10495 ...here
[03:02] <fit4lfe> get lime wire instead
[03:02] <_mustard> dollar: thanks
[03:02] <bungle> cant run it _jason
[03:02] <fit4lfe> frost has alot of X11 bugs in it
[03:02] <dollar> thank u man for helping me
[03:02] <_jason> bungle: you need java
[03:03] <bungle> i have java
[03:03] <Frogzoo> bungle: frostwire is nice
[03:03] <_jason> bungle: do you have sun java?
[03:03] <dollar> but plz tell me if there's smth wrong with my partitions
[03:03] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, frostwire is rocking..but has a bug ..or something like that
[03:03] <bungle> did i do something wrong during install?
[03:03] <erofee> any chance somone can help an ubuntu newb like myself
[03:03] <_jason> bungle: how did you install it?
[03:03] <s_spiff> bungle, go to synaptic and install j2re pack
[03:03] <IdleOne> erofee>  ask away
[03:03] <bungle> _jason,  ithink i have that one how do i check?
[03:03] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: if you have an old versn that had problems in the library tab, upgrade
[03:04] <_jason> bungle: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' in a terminal
[03:04] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, i think i hv the latest... cuz i checked for updates
[03:04] <bungle> i installed frostwire from a deb file and dpkg -i
[03:04] <sorryd> how does one open a root terminal?
[03:04] <_mustard> dollar: you have the wrong setting on the line for /dev/hda1 for allowing access to your ntfs drive
[03:04] <s_spiff> bungle, u did it right..
[03:04] <_jason> sorryd: sudo -i
[03:04] <_mustard> dollar: I'm going to show you how to edit it
[03:04] <IdleOne> !tell sorryd about rootsudo
[03:04] <s_spiff>  bungle , just check if u have j2re pack installed in ur synaptic..
[03:04] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: if you install the deb pkg, apt _won't_ get upgrades - you need to install the latest deb
[03:04] <dollar> ok
[03:04] <erofee> i have just installed ubuntu, converted from Winxp.  I have downloaded firefox off the internet, but have no idea how to install it
[03:04] <sudharsh> hiya..where are the panel configuration files stored
[03:05] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, i did install the latest deb
[03:05] <sorryd> ooooh tricky
[03:05] <cA1mAn> Healot, can you add XARA Xtreme to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates, please? Thanks!
[03:05] <_jason> erofee: ubuntu comes with firefox
[03:05] <IdleOne> !tell erofee  about ff1.5
[03:05] <sudharsh> ..where are the panel configuration files stored
[03:05] <IdleOne> erofee>  ubotu  just sent you a link :)
[03:05] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: well I'm running 4.10 and no problems this end
[03:05] <_mustard> dollar: are you on gnome or kde?
[03:05] <erofee> thanks for the help, i'll give it a go.
[03:05] <_jason> sudharsh: probably somewhere in ~/.gnome2
[03:06] <s_spiff> hold on..lemme check my version.. if i suddenly log out.. take it that my box just froze :P
[03:06] <sudharsh> well where exactly
[03:06] <sudharsh> its crashing all the time..
[03:06] <bungle> _jason,  s_spiff I have both sun java and blackdown java
[03:06] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: 4.10.9 that is...
[03:06] <_jason> sudharsh: probably panel2.d, try that
[03:06] <Klump3n^mobile> am i the only one that is experiencing problems with the german update server? even in the webbrowser de.archive.ubuntu.com is very slow :\
[03:06] <s_spiff> bungle, i think there is a way to select only one..that is ...making gnome use only one of them..
[03:06] <dollar> i installed the gnome CD but then some friend downloaded the kde for me.. now i have both.. i can choose which one i want whenever i log in.. but usually I'm using KDE
[03:06] <sudharsh> sure.will.get back to you..
[03:07] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, i found the prob... i have the ver 4.10.5
[03:07] <bungle> i think i set it up forn sun using the instructions from the wiki
[03:07] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, hehe....my mistake
[03:07] <_mustard> dollar: what are you on now?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: there ya go
[03:07] <_mustard> dollar: they have different editors
[03:07] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, where can i pick up the latest deb?
[03:07] <dollar> kde, default one
[03:07] <bungle> my java in firefox is working fine,  just cant run frostwire
[03:07] <dollar> oh i see
[03:07] <Bilange> Klump3n^mobile: not sure... but any ways, you should try to use another mirror (listed in  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive )
[03:07] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: the upgrade will be easiest if you uninstall 4.10.5, then install 4.10.9
[03:07] <Frogzoo> !frostwire
[03:08] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, totally, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[03:08] <Klump3n^mobile> tnx Bilange
[03:08] <_jason> bungle: which one was selected?
[03:08] <_mustard> dollar: I'm usually on gnome, so hopefully I get this command right :)
[03:08] <bungle> sun
[03:08] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, didnt get u..
[03:08] <sudharsh> _jason: panel2.d doesnt contain the faulty appelt which i had loaded...it was the blog applet
[03:08] <dollar> i believe in u man:P
[03:08] <s_spiff>  Frogzoo how do i get to the 'upgrade' part?
[03:08] <Bilange> Klump3n^mobile: my canadian official mirror went down a few weeks ago, and switched to a (more) local mirror... this one was lightning fast
[03:08] <samae> I need help with my wifi connection to the internet
[03:08] <sudharsh> any other files i hav to tinker with?
[03:08] <_jason> sudharsh: oh, don't know then
[03:08] <sudharsh> :(
[03:09] <samae> May so help me ?
[03:09] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: just make sure you remove 4.10.5 (with 'sudo dpkg -r frostwire) before installing the new deb
[03:09] <bungle> _jason, sunj2re1.5
[03:09] <_mustard> is it kdesu kate /etc/fstab to edit with kate in kde?
[03:10] <Healot> sou desu :)
[03:10] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, ohh yeah..that i will:P hehe.. i dun wanna scrw up this instaltion of ubuntu :P
[03:10] <_jason> bungle: what happens when you try to open frostwire?
[03:10] <Zarephath> Hey I have never needed(or wanted) to uninstall something...do I use apt to remove stuff..or dpkg?
[03:10] <Storkme> _mustard, are you still there? after doing ./configure, then 'make', what do i do now?
[03:10] <sudharsh> jason_: but u r pretty sure the configuration is in .gnome2..rite?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Zarephath: sudo dpkg -r  PKG_NAME
[03:11] <bungle> nothing _jason
[03:11] <s_spiff> Frogzoo, u using the beta!
[03:11] <_jason> bungle: if you type frostwire in a terminal do you get any output?
[03:11] <_mustard> Storkme: well ideally you would install checkinstall and use that command instead of 'make install'
[03:11] <sorush20_> hi ops have i been bannd perm, from ubuntu-offtopic, for using the ops function?
[03:11] <Zarephath> Frogzoo: Thanks...frogzoo didn't need you to tell me how....I coulda looked that up...I'm not that lazy now...heh
[03:11] <_mustard> dollar: won't be long, just working something out
[03:11] <_jason> sudharsh: no I was just expecting them to be since gnome stores everything else in there
[03:11] <sudharsh> found it..i think its called main
[03:11] <Frogzoo> s_spiff: nope - 4.10.9 is stable for me
[03:12] <sudharsh> i'll try loggin into my account now
[03:12] <bungle> hold on
[03:12] <dollar> ok take ur time man. I appreciate ur concern
[03:12] <_jason> bungle: #gnome might know better than me
[03:12] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you have any information on the current status of Larry, please message me. Thanks!
[03:12] <sorush20_> are there any programs done for being able to reseach litrature ?
[03:13] <Healot> google's scholar?
[03:13] <Zarephath> Frogzoo: When I right click a file and go into properties and tell it open with...is this a global change...or just specific to that file?
[03:13] <_mustard> dollar: ok...   kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:13] <sorush20_> Healot: thank
[03:13] <bungle> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: syntax error near unexpected token `
[03:13] <bungle> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: `look_for_java()
[03:13] <Frogzoo> Zarephath: it's system wide
[03:13] <_mustard> dollar: that should open up a text editor with the contents of the file /etc/fstab
[03:13] <Storkme> _mustard, okay. now when i try and do ./install-sh it tells me: "install:        no input file specified
[03:13] <Storkme> "
[03:13] <Zarephath> Frogzoo: Great thanks again..
[03:14] <_mustard> dollar: tell me when you get it
[03:14] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you're following Larry (a cat 4 storm heading for Australia's northeast coastline), please stop by ##earth .... thanks!
[03:14] <k`ditty> can someone point to towards a help file about installing XP on a machine with ubuntu ALREADY installed? i cant seem to find anything other than installing linux to xp
[03:14] <_mustard> Storkme: hmmm..not sure what is going on there..
[03:14] <bungle> _jason, 'unFrost.sh: line 24: syntax error near unexpected token `
[03:14] <bungle> 'unFrost.sh: line 24: `look_for_java()
[03:14] <Frogzoo> k
[03:15] <dollar> ok got it
[03:15] <_mustard> Storkme: normally its ./configure  ,   make , make install
[03:15] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: install xp on a different partition, then follow the instructions from ubotu to restore grub
[03:15] <Frogzoo> !tell k`ditty about grub
[03:15] <_mustard> dollar: ok, I'll show you what to change the line for /dev/hda1 to
[03:16] <_jason> bungle: remove the frostwire installed and install a new deb from the site maybe
[03:16] <_mustard> dollar: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[03:16] <Klump3n^mobile> Bilange, thanks a lot! :D now lightning is not as fast as that server :D
[03:16] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: you might still need to tweak grub to get it to boot windows again
[03:16] <bungle> will try _jason
[03:16] <k`ditty> frogzoo, it doesnt give me that option, and grub doesnt load the cd right. do i need to add a partition in ubuntu, and then boot from the xp cd?
[03:16] <_mustard> dollar: show me what you have done after you finished before saving
[03:17] <_mustard> dollar: in the pastebin
[03:17] <sorush20_> how do I find out who the ops are with out having to call them all?
[03:17] <_jason> sorush20_: /msg ubotu ops
[03:17] <ichiishi> anyone knows which gcc I need to compile linux kernel ?
[03:17] <_mustard> Storkme: thats what it says in the INSTALL instructions hey?
[03:17] <avu> sorush20_: '/msg chanserv access #channel list' is the always working freenode-way
[03:17] <_jason> ichiishi: 3.4
[03:18] <dollar> where shoul i place unmask=0222 0 0? should i erase ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000?
[03:18] <mattpp> hey, my laptop won't boot off CD, so do I have to create a boot-floppy?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: do you mean that xp doesn't give you the option to install to a partition that doesn't have grub on it? how did you parttion your disk, as one big partition? or when you installed ubuntu, did you leave room for xp?
[03:18] <dollar> or i just add it to the content
[03:18] <_mustard> dollar: yes..the final line should look exactly as I have it
[03:18] <Storkme> _mustard, lol, whoops, forgot to check INSTALL
[03:18] <_mustard> dollar: the other stuff you have needs to go
[03:18] <_jason> dollar: both should work for ntfs drives
[03:19] <Protocol1> i reloaded my ubuntu...whew
[03:19] <ompaul> mattpp,, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/ if you just read that it will tell you want you can do
[03:19] <Frogzoo> s/grub/ubuntu
[03:19] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: s/grub/ubuntu
[03:19] <mattpp> thanks ompaul
[03:19] <_mustard> Storkme: checkinstall is good for uninstalling afterwards :)
[03:19] <k`ditty> when i installed ubuntu i just erased the whole hard drive
[03:19] <_mustard> Storkme: you could probably still uninstall from there I think..not sure
[03:19] <jd86> i've had some experiance with nfs root installation with other distributions, but not with ubuntu (or debian for that matter) but i'd like to give it a try... is there some documentation on the subject ? (i'm googling without coming up with anything very constructive)
[03:19] <k`ditty> i let ubuntu breezy install make its own partitions
[03:19] <rysiek|pl> anyone any ideas hwo to get WakeOnLan working in Kubuntu (nForce2 onboard NIC)
[03:20] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: well the issue now is you need to resize the partition to make room for the xp install
[03:20] <dollar> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    umask=0222 0 0        0       0            this is the line.. should i save???
[03:20] <k`ditty> ok frogzoo
[03:20] <Storkme> _mustard, woot, got it :)
[03:20] <Trae> is dapper drake getting more stable you guys think?
[03:20] <k`ditty> so i load ubuntu and go to terminal?
[03:21] <_mustard> dollar: no..you have too many '0 0's on the end :)
[03:21] <_mustard> dollar: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[03:21] <_jason> !dapper
[03:21] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[03:21] <Trae> Did we actually decide to postpone the release?
[03:21] <Trae> or was that just general talk?
[03:21] <_mustard> Storkme: you used checkinstall before?
[03:22] <C-O-L-T> how to install other dictionaries for spellcheck in open offcie
[03:22] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: boot ubuntu & run gparted - then make room by shrinking a file system, and then make a new partition with the free space
[03:22] <Storkme> _mustard, no, i just used "./configure", "make", "sudo make install"
[03:22] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: check in synaptic - there's alternative dictionaries there
[03:22] <_mustard> Storkme: well if you used checkinstall you should see a package in synaptic now..that you can uninstall with
[03:23] <dollar> ok i will put it in the pastebin
[03:23] <_mustard> Storkme: makes life a lot easier
[03:23] <k`ditty> !gparted
[03:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, gparted is a partition editor. As always when manipulating partitions, backup your important data. When resizing NTFS partitions PLEASE defrag first to avoid potential data loss. There is a gparted livecd at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:23] <Storkme> _mustard, the command "checkinstall" ?
[03:23] <ichiishi> jason: thanks. I installed 4.0, got tonns of errors when I tried make xconfig
[03:23] <_mustard> dollar: yes please...I'll go over the final edit
[03:23] <_mustard> Storkme: yeah
[03:23] <dollar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10499 check it out
[03:24] <_mustard> dollar: k
[03:24] <dollar> and btw, should i do the same for the other ntfs hda5?
[03:24] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: oh - you just made me realise - you won't be able to resize your root partition (which I think is your only partition), while it's mounted. You'll need to boot the live cd, if you have one & run gparted from there
[03:24] <_mustard> dollar: that would be a good idea
[03:25] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: pls pastebin 'sudo fstab -l'
[03:25] <Storkme> _mustard, "command not found"
[03:25] <k`ditty> computer is not connected right now, im on windows
[03:25] <dollar> so do i save now?
[03:25] <_jason> Storkme: install the checkinstall package
[03:25] <Mabus06> Hey _mustard
[03:25] <Storkme> _mustard, i'm going to uninstall that version and install a stable version from the source
[03:25] <_mustard> Storkme: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[03:25] <_mustard> Hey Mabus06 :)
[03:26] <carbo> hi there, i'm looking for some help with bad sectors on a windows partition, i can't boot it so here i am on ubuntu
[03:26] <_mustard> dollar: it looks good
[03:26] <_mustard> dollar: more to come yet
[03:26] <dango> where do i adjust the resolution for the login screen ? I can set my desktop thru the settings menu, but i have no idea where i do that on login screen ?
[03:26] <_mustard> dollar: save and tell me when your done
[03:26] <_jason> carbo: try chkdsk /r, in windows recovery mode.  But you should go to #windows
[03:26] <dollar> done
[03:26] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: well this is probably going to be a bit messy - if you haven't done much work on your ubuntu install, it might be easiest to start from scratch - just when you install xp, be sure to leave room for ubuntu
[03:27] <dReadMoRe> hi, how can i configure my ipw2200 to connect to a WEP network!?
[03:27] <_mustard> dollar: k now I'm just going to make sure both those ntfs drives are unmounted so do these next commands
[03:27] <Frogzoo> dReadMoRe: I think people recommend wifi-radar to do this
[03:27] <_mustard> dollar: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[03:27] <_mustard> dollar: sudo umount /dev/hda5
[03:27] <k`ditty> frogzoo, would you recommend just installing xp over ubuntu? jut a clean install?
[03:27] <carbo> _jason: got a problem there, i have a OEM recovery disc but no proper WinXP CD, can't boot windows either so can't get into recovery mode
[03:27] <Mabus06> _mustard: I just finished coding my first real c++ program... it takes a message and encodes it a pretty cool way. Divides the message into 3 character sections, converts the ascii values into hex codes. 3 characters make six hex digits, ie: one html color code. So the script generates a color for each 3 characters, and prints a word on an html file in that color. http://pastebin.ca/46233
[03:27] <Protocol1> i just reloaded my ubuntu 5.10
[03:28] <_jason> carbo: ah, well just get rid of windows and stick to ubuntu then
[03:28] <dReadMoRe> Frogzoo where can i get it!?
[03:28] <_mustard> dollar: any error messages or did they go ok?
[03:28] <k`ditty> frogzoo, i have the winxp setup disc, and ubuntu setup still but im a total newb and i was having trouble setting up proper partitions
[03:28] <_jason> carbo: (or find a friend with a normal install disk)
[03:28] <_mustard> Mabus06: hehe..wow..how long you been doing C++?
[03:29] <carbo> _jason: i wish i could... i've spent about an hour searching around, i've meddled with ntfsprogs (particularly ntfsresize), none of the suggestions i've found work though
[03:29] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: no, because you need to partition the disk - atm I think you have just one partition covering the whole disk - xp needs one partition to itself, and ubuntu needs 1 partition to itself, preferably more - one for /, one for /home, one for /var etc
[03:29] <Mabus06> _mustard: I guess that depends on your definition, this is my first real script
[03:29] <_mustard> Mabus06: :)
[03:30] <Mabus06> _mustard: I have owned this c++ basics book for a few months but I haven't really checked it out other than some basic syntax, I just decided to write with this in mind and use the manual as a reference... I find it's a lot easier to learn that way than to trudge through a book.
[03:30] <k`ditty> is it safe to just rrun winxp boot cd and delete ubuntu partition, and install winxp or would that make my system unstable?
[03:30] <dollar> command not found man
[03:30] <_mustard> dollar: I take it you type 'umount'..not 'unmount'?
[03:31] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: that will work fine (except installing xp will make your machine unstable :p)
[03:31] <k`ditty> :D
[03:31] <_mustard> dollar: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[03:31] <k`ditty> i know, but i got in over my head frogzoo
[03:31] <_mustard> Mabus06: it looks very mystifying to me :)
[03:31] <laffer_pt> in shell scripting what does the exit 0 and exit 1 do? what does the function shift does?
[03:31] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: that's cool - I agree there is a steep learning curve at first
[03:31] <k`ditty> i have websites to maintain, graphics to run and i started to believe i knew it all so i just got rid of xp
[03:32] <p01n7> laffer_pt, /join #bash
[03:32] <dollar> no man it is correct... but it says:  bash: sudu: command not found
[03:32] <dream2dance> Hi at all ...
[03:32] <_jason> dollar: sudo not sudu
[03:32] <carbo> well then.. is there any utility like fsck or chkdsk for ntfs partitions?
[03:32] <_mustard> dollar: sudo  not sudu
[03:32] <ompaul> dollar, different vowel :-)
[03:32] <k`ditty> i should have practiced longeer with the live cd but i like ubuntu so much... i just wanted the full install to make it run quicker
[03:32] <k`ditty> the livecd wouldnt remember any of my settings either
[03:33] <dream2dance> did somebody knoaw a german channel for ubuntu user?
[03:33] <ompaul> !de
[03:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:33] <Frogzoo> k`ditty: If you still want to go down the ubuntu route at some stage, get another drive & install ubuntu to it - that will be much more straight forward
[03:33] <dream2dance> thx ompaul :-)
[03:33] <dollar> ok sorry man.. i typed it, now it's saying sudo: unmount: command not found
[03:33] <Storkme> dollar, it's 'umount'
[03:34] <_mustard> dollar: you worked it out yet or still having problems?
[03:34] <k`ditty> yea im going to do that, i have an old internal drive, 13 gig with ubuntu already installed but im not sure how i could connect it to my computer
[03:34] <Storkme> for some reason, i never figured out why it's 'umount' and not 'unmount'
[03:34] <Storkme> k`ditty, #hardware :)
[03:34] <_mustard> dollar: umount not unmount
[03:34] <basti> I have a Problem with Opera under Ubuntu
[03:34] <basti> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/447/
[03:34] <Mabus06> _mustard: that may just be my crappy documentation ;-)
[03:34] <_mustard> Mabus06: hehe
[03:35] <_mustard> Mabus06: is that gpl code now? ;)
[03:35] <dollar> yeah yeah,, am putting unmount with both N & M.. it's not working
[03:35] <Mabus06> _mustard: if copyright is unspecified what does that mean, now that you have me curious?
[03:35] <_mustard> dollar: your not reading what is on the screen :)
[03:35] <Mabus06> I mean, I'm not actually worried about people stealing my code, lol.
[03:35] <_mustard> dollar: look at each letter and think before typing :)
[03:35] <_mustard> dollar: sudo umount /dev/hda1
[03:36] <_mustard> Mabus06: I have no idea
[03:36] <dollar> my bad man.. i thought i was the verb unmount,, u know the opposite of mount
[03:36] <dollar> my bad man .. sorry again
[03:36] <Storkme> anyone know of a good program (for gnome
[03:37] <_mustard> dollar: its a common mistake..dont worry about it
[03:37] <Storkme> anyone know of a good program (for gnome) that displays system info? ram, cpu, eth0, etc.
[03:37] <Storkme> -
[03:37] <carbo> what should i do about bad sectors on a partition?
[03:37] <_mustard> dollar: ok..done that first one then?
[03:37] <bmk789> carbo: fsck /dev/<hd> and have it fix errors
[03:38] <carbo> bmk789: thanks, trying it now
[03:38] <bmk789> what fs is it?
[03:38] <dollar> ok now it's saying :   umount: /dev/hda1: not mounted
[03:38] <_mustard> dollar: thats good
[03:38] <carbo> bmk789: ah, i should've known... unfortunately its NTFS
[03:38] <_mustard> dollar: thats what I wanted to know
[03:38] <_mustard> dollar: sudo umount /dev/hda5
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Storkme: gkrellm
[03:39] <_mustard> dollar: check the second one with that above command now..for /dev/hda5
[03:39] <Milamber> Well, this is annoying..   Even when adding noacpi/nolacpi/reboot=h in my kernel bootup options, I still can't reboot.  And it seems I can't disable acpi on this machine, and also, after removing the "quiet" option in kernel bootup, I'm getting this kernel output at the very end when I issue a reboot:  "No reboot fixup found for your hardware".
[03:39] <dollar> also not mounted
[03:40] <_mustard> dollar: k..now this command    sudo mount -a
[03:40] <_mustard> dollar: that command means mount all entries in the /etc/fstab
[03:41] <_mustard> dollar: any errors?
[03:41] <dollar> should i notice smth happening? cuz there's no output or anything?
[03:41] <_mustard> dollar: not output is good
[03:41] <_mustard> dollar: thats good
[03:42] <_mustard> dollar: ok..look on your desktop see if you see icons for those drives
[03:42] <nanomad> anyone is using gmailfs under dapper?
[03:42] <nanomad> it seems not to be working
[03:42] <_mustard> dollar: oh your on kde..dont worry
[03:42] <_mustard> dollar: browse to those directories and see if you have permission to access them now
[03:43] <sorush20_> will ubuntu drop gnome and use kde as main X server?
[03:43] <deFrysk> ?
[03:43] <sudharsh> sorush20_: if u want kde...kubuntu
[03:43] <_mustard> sorush20_: its already got kubuntu
[03:43] <katarot> hey everyone i know my problem with internet now it is something to do with the dell drivers i need to know another place i can download bcmwl5.inf and .sys
[03:43] <sorush20_> sudharsh: as default on the shipit cd?
[03:44] <dollar> yeah i can
[03:44] <whyami> katarot: do a search on filesearching.com
[03:44] <sudharsh> sorush20_: no..
[03:44] <katarot> ok thanks
[03:44] <dollar> u mean in /media/hda1
[03:44] <dollar> ?
[03:44] <_mustard> dollar: yes
[03:44] <sudharsh> u could do a 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' after u get the shipit cds
[03:44] <dErF[A] > hey this is a noob question but i cant figure it out. how do i install Unbuntu on a x86 computer?
[03:44] <whyami> Any way I can prevent a module from loading? I already have it listed in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but both modules load anyway.
[03:44] <dollar> yes i can
[03:45] <Toma-> !install
[03:45] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[03:45] <dErF[A] > tanks
[03:45] <_mustard> dollar try /media/hda5 now
[03:45] <Toma-> np!
[03:45] <Jimmey__> I just mounted my LAN IP on my desktop as an 'FTP with login' ( I'm running vstpd ), and when I logged in as myself, I got access to '/', how can I stop that?
[03:45] <dollar> so now am still logged in as a user not root.. but still i can access those drives anytime without repeating the same prcedure?
[03:45] <dErF[A] > if im going to burn this onto a CD, does it have to in extracted form?
[03:46] <nanomad> no one using gmailfs?
[03:46] <_mustard> dollar: yes..the /etc/fstab file handles mounting of drives at startup..so it will be that way each time you start up
[03:47] <_mustard> dollar: try rebooting and coming back if you like :)
[03:47] <whyami> dErF[A] : are you trying to burn the .iso image?
[03:47] <dollar> thank u so much man... i really appreciate what u did, because it was a bit hard teachin me cuz am so new to linux
[03:47] <katarot> i found the file but it cannot connect i get 425 cant open data connection
[03:48] <_mustard> dollar: thats ok..no problems..don't be afraid to ask questions :)
[03:48] <dollar> from now on i'll be referring to u:)
[03:48] <_mustard> dollar: if you look over the guide now, you should be able to understand what it was trying to tell you to do
[03:49] <whyami> katarot: I'm tuning into your problem late. You have a dell, want to run ndiswrapper, and can't find the windows driver for your wireless?
[03:49] <dollar> let me boot for a second to check
[03:49] <dollar> i'll be comin back in no time
[03:49] <katarot> yeah
[03:49] <_mustard> dollar: heh..well whoever is in here.  you will get the hang of it.  After a bit of setting up there isnt anything much left to configure
[03:50] <whyami> katarot: and why can't you download this from the Dell website?
[03:50] <Abnix> ok, apparently I screwed soemthing up on a fresh install of this...os.   how do I get root?  I cannot su -  cant ssh in....
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Abnix about root
[03:51] <katarot> whyami: i have got  my drivers but they dont work and i read a thread in the forum where people had the same problem and when they used the driver of another site it worked
[03:51] <_mustard> Abnix: ubuntu uses sudo, not root
[03:51] <gnomefreak> sudo not su and your user password
[03:51] <_mustard> Abnix: ubotu should have the info for you
[03:51] <sorush20_> is there a website that sells .ogg files rather than mp3 for a chaper price?
[03:51] <whyami> katarot: what is the chipset for your wireless?
[03:52] <katarot> whyami: how do i check
[03:52] <whyami> katarot: from the command line try lspci | grep -i Network
[03:53] <Jimmey__> Where are Linux passwords stored?
[03:53] <albacker> sorush20_, people dont sell file-types they sell the music that's there! if it was like you said .ogg would be more expensive cos they are much smaller in size, and much easier to download ! :)
[03:54] <_mustard> Jimmey__: in a place that noone can access them :)
[03:54] <Unity> Jimmey__: they are not stored in a readable format
[03:54] <katarot> i think is a broadcom but i will check i will have to swicth OS brb
[03:54] <Unity> _mustard: wait they are stored somewhere on the hard disk?
[03:54] <john__> hey i was wondering if i reinstalled ubuntu with both video cards in and both monitors hookedup will it install both of them
[03:54] <Jimmey__> Yes, I want to test how strong my password is, with John the Ripper
[03:54] <john__> its for ubuntu 5.04
[03:54] <_mustard> Jimmey__: unless you have the debconf bug when you installed and it copies your first password to the install log ;)
[03:55] <jetscreamer> why don't you just edit xorg.conf john__
[03:55] <Jimmey__> I erased that after seeing the post on the ubuntu forums
[03:55] <sorush20_> albacker: I meant buy music that was in .ogg format , wouldn't that mean the end listener would not have to pay for the mp3 format?
[03:55] <sbahra> I take it no Sun JRE/JDK's are available for Ubuntu on PPC?
[03:55] <john__> because its too complex for me
[03:55] <_mustard> Jimmey__: you should be covered then
[03:55] <john__> i havent figured out what to edit
[03:55] <jetscreamer> it's easy
[03:55] <john__> i mean which work or sentence
[03:55] <sbahra> because I can't find them, and gij is not so cool :P
[03:55] <john__> word*
[03:55] <dollar> _mustard, it worked man... i got a window screen after i logged in to my user account saying : log in as root and putting the password
[03:56] <albacker> sorush20_, there is no reason why .ogg would be cheaper than .mp3 ! there's same music dude !
[03:56] <jetscreamer> google is your friend. you just want to add an additional section for the other vid card, and another section for the monitor
[03:56] <_mustard> dollar: I don't understand
[03:56] <jetscreamer> practically cut&paste
[03:56] <_mustard> dollar: did you change the log in to allow root login?
[03:56] <gopi> Hi, Is it possible to install Ubuntu for 32-bit systems in my Athlon64 system ??
[03:56] <dollar> no i dont even know how to do that
[03:57] <gnomefreak> gopi: yes
[03:57] <sorush20_> gopi: yes you can..
[03:57] <gopi> okay..
[03:57] <whyami> how does iceWM compare with xfce?
[03:57] <_mustard> dollar: hmm well I'm not sure whats happening then
[03:57] <_mustard> dollar: thats sounds quite strange really :)
[03:57] <whyami> gopi: I did exactly this.
[03:57] <john__> i have tryed and tryed google over and over but i cant find out what to edit
[03:57] <jetscreamer> http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/  john__
[03:57] <_mustard> dollar:  what did you run that asked you to log in as root?
[03:57] <sorush20_> gopi: this is what most 64bit users do really since it is a little bit more tricky to get 64bit support like flash java in ubuntu 64bit
[03:58] <gopi> whyami: oh i see... Because Iam going to do this since I am having problems in TV application
[03:58] <dollar> when i logged in as dollar and put my password, i got another small window where it is written root login and a place to put the password... is it not the way it suppose to be??????
[03:58] <jetscreamer> http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/xorg.conf.5.html
[03:58] <gopi> sorush20_ : I see
[03:58] <_mustard> dollar: it sounds wierd to me, but I am not used to KDE
[03:59] <_mustard> dollar: ask in #kubuntu
[03:59] <whyami> gopi: yeah I did it for a similar reason. I could deal with the performance loss and wanted the stability and large user base of the IA32 stuff.
[03:59] <sbahra> Are there PPC packages for Sun JRE/JDK?
[03:59] <dollar> so tell me, is gnome better, should i use it instead of KDE?
[03:59] <_mustard> dollar: normally you just put your username and user password in...then do all root commands using the 'sudo' command
[03:59] <_mustard> dollar: it depends which one you like the most really
[04:00] <flowolf> I just downloaded ubuntu dapper flight 5 for amd64
[04:00] <gopi> whiami: I see, I installed xawtv..... I am getting video but no audio..... and hence I am going to try with 32-bit rather
[04:00] <whyami> dollar: there's nothing "better" about Gnome, as far as I can see. I think it's a personal preference thing.
[04:00] <flowolf> but I get an error when installing the kernel
[04:00] <_mustard> dollar: this 'extra' dialog is a mystery to me
[04:00] <flowolf> is this a bug?
[04:00] <katarot> whyami: i forget the command you told me to use lol
[04:01] <whyami> gopi: I don't know the app. I take it audio is working with other apps? You have checked the audio config for xawtv?
[04:01] <dollar> yeah but what we did in the kde editor wasn't allowing to read from ntfs, so it requires the root password, that's y it asked when i logged in to my user account.. right?
[04:01] <gopi> whyami: Yes audio is perfectly working like with system sounds......
[04:01] <whyami> katarot: lspci | grep -i Network
[04:01] <whyami> . Give us the entire string that is returned.
[04:01] <WebLOCH> hey guys yet more php woes
[04:01] <WebLOCH> I have php4 installed but cant use the imagecreate imageblah functions... does anyone know why ?
[04:02] <whyami> gopi: is xawtv set to use ESD for sound?
[04:02] <_mustard> dollar: join the #kubuntu channel and ask them in there what this thing is that pops up and asks you to log in as root when you first log in
[04:02] <deizi> i'm trying to install some programs, but don't know any commands...
[04:02] <gopi> whyami: Strangely after a few days audio automatically worked in it but I had to reinstall Ubuntu again and hence xawtv also, but again audio didnt appear :(
[04:02] <_mustard> dollar: it sounds like something specific to KDE
[04:02] <gopi> whyami: ESD ?
[04:02] <gnomefreak> flowolf: dapper talk should be in #ubuntu+1 as for your issue can you give us an idea of what the error is in #ubuntu+1 please
[04:02] <dollar> join #kubunto
[04:02] <gnomefreak> deizi: sudo apt-get install programname
[04:03] <_mustard> dollar: #kubuntu
[04:03] <_mustard> dollar: no kubunto :)
[04:03] <gopi> What is the site from where I can download 32-bit latest Ubuntu please ?
[04:03] <ajith> hei can anyone help me in installing via driver in ubuntu
[04:03] <whyami> gopi: the default ubuntu install uses ESD for sound, but that conflicts with some apps. Is there an audio config anywhere for your app?
[04:04] <ajith> i need help with VIA CLE266 driver installation
[04:04] <gopi> whyami: xawtv doesnt seem to have any config file in my knowledge that I can play with :(
[04:04] <dollar> ok.. am havin trouble reading :$
[04:04] <whyami> ajith: I spent forever trying to get via video driver working in Breezy. Finally gave up, installed Dapper, and via worked out of the box...
[04:05] <ajith> dapper
[04:05] <deizi> gee thks
[04:05] <ajith> can u give me the site
[04:05] <gopi> whyami: Is dapper latest release? And is it available ?
[04:05] <Frogzoo> gopi: dapper is beta, until released
[04:05] <whyami> gopi: Dapper is still in development. There is a separate channel for it: #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <erofee> hi all
[04:05] <C-O-L-T> hey people does exist a repo for synaptic where I can get skype?
[04:05] <erofee> have another newb question
[04:06] <ajith> thanx whyami...
[04:06] <whyami> gopi: what app are you expecting to hear sound from? pia?
[04:06] <gopi> So is there any conflicts with TV viewing application in it? I mean is dapper a stable one to get now ?
[04:06] <s_spiff> wow...loads of indians coming in..
[04:06] <cA1mAn> can i remove a program xyz COMPLETETLY with "sudo apt-get remove --purge xyz" ?
[04:07] <Matic`Makovec> yes.
[04:07] <aTaLiBa> Algum sabe como editar o menu do Gnome? Especificamente alterao do nome Aplicaes, Locais e System.
[04:07] <gopi> whyami: No Alsa mixer..
[04:07] <aTaLiBa> Algum sabe como editar o menu do Gnome? Especificamente alterao do nome Aplicaes, Locais e System.
[04:07] <s_spiff> aTaLiBa, join the spanish channel
[04:07] <Toma-> gopi: tvtime works great in flight 5
[04:07] <Matic`Makovec> english only.
[04:07] <Unity> !skypue
[04:07] <whyami> gopi: I have no idea about TV viewing.
[04:07] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Unity
[04:07] <Unity> !skype
[04:07] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[04:07] <aTaLiBa> hahahaha sorry
[04:07] <gopi> Toma- flight 5 is what ?
[04:07] <Unity> C-O-L-T: see above skype link
[04:08] <whyami> gopi: what app in xawtv is feeding the alsa mixer the audio that you aren't hearing.
[04:08] <gnomefreak> gopi: testing for next release
[04:08] <Toma-> gopi: dapper... latest beta release
[04:08] <gopi> whyami: Oh if u mean driver then its bttv...... and my TV tuner card is Pinnacle PCTV Pro
[04:08] <aTaLiBa> Somebody knows as to edit the menu of the Gnome? Specifically alteration of the name Applications, Locais and System.
[04:09] <aTaLiBa> I'm work Project Inclusion Digital
[04:09] <whyami> gopi: I was just googing for you. There is a config file which is either called or in ~/.xawtv. Can you find this?
[04:09] <gopi> Ok which one is better to get? I mean in 32-bit Ubuntu..... flight 5 or breezy or any other one plz ?
[04:09] <aTaLiBa> Dapper
[04:09] <gopi> I mainly want good support to TV application
[04:10] <WebLOCH> Hey guys it seems like the gd library for PHP isnt functioning, can anyone lend assistance?
[04:10] <john__> man i dont know but my eyes are burning ,if i reinstall ubuntu with both cards in the tower and them both hooked up will it reconise both of them
[04:10] <john__> bc ive been meaning to change towers
[04:10] <Storkme> hey guys, i'm using GKrellM to monitor my system, and it has four temp inputs. temp1, temp2, temp3, and THRM. how can i tell where they all are so i can understand them?
[04:10] <aTaLiBa> I'm instaled pessulus and alacarte, this programs not change menu gnome.
[04:11] <gopi> whyami: In which path is that might be available? Is there a way to search for that file ?
[04:12] <gopi> Toma- : flight 5 is older release to breezy?
[04:12] <whyami> gopi: it should be called .xawtv and be in your home directory. But let's back up a bit. With the alsa mixer you don't have the capture muted or turned way down or anything, do you?
[04:12] <Toma-> gopi: no, of dapper
[04:13] <gopi> Toma- : So breezy or flight5 is good for TV ?
[04:13] <Toma-> gopi: both are. breezy is more stable tho
[04:13] <john__> will it work?
[04:13] <john__> or is any one listening
[04:13] <gopi> Toma- : ok
[04:14] <gopi> whyami: No its not muted I am sure
[04:14] <bsm> hi, anyone using initng with dapper? it does not start for me with some udev error (it respawns some times and then initng stops)
[04:14] <gopi> whyami: Actually Line in gets the sound from my TV Card
[04:15] <Toma-> bsm: are you using the one from universe or from initng?
[04:15] <_mustard> gopi: does your tv card has a connector to the sound card?
[04:15] <bsm> Toma-: couldnt find it in universe, so from initng
[04:15] <Toma-> !info initng dapper
[04:15] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ]
[04:16] <gopi> _mustard: Yes ... a wire from TV card is connected to the Line in to my Sound card
[04:16] <Toma-> oic...
[04:16] <bsm> Toma :)
[04:16] <Bilange> hmm.. did you guys have noticedthis strange firefox behaviour recently? when browsing thru gmail or hotmail (but only on those pages), firefox just quits. no warnings, error messages, it just quits. am I alone?
[04:16] <_mustard> gopi: so your certain thats correctly connected?
[04:16] <Toma-> bsm: i was told initng was going to be in dapper as an option :(
[04:16] <gopi> _mustard : yeah... in windows its the way and also in Ubuntu it worked previously !
[04:17] <opter> gopi: I had a problem with no sound in my TV card, I went in and unmutted the aux in and it started working
[04:17] <gremid> hello, has anybody successfully installed java3d under breezy?
[04:17] <Mabus06> How come normally when installing with the card in, my atheros chipset dlink g520 works out of the box. However, if ubuntu is already installed and I plug it in, like now, and restart, it's not listed in ifconfig. Can somebody please offer some ideas?
[04:17] <_mustard> gopi: k
[04:17] <gopi> opter: Oh I see... but I check all, and everything is unmuted !
[04:18] <Storkme> hey guys, i'm using GKrellM to monitor my system, and it has four temp inputs. temp1, temp2, temp3, and THRM. how can i tell where they all are so i can understand them?
[04:18] <_mustard> dollar: so what was the name of the program asking for root access?
[04:18] <gopi> !repos
[04:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:19] <whyami> gopi: are you using Gnome? Have you tried the volume applet provided with Gnome? much easier than alsa mixer. I suggest you check especially the capture tab in the volume applet.
[04:19] <opter> gopi: what are you using as a tuner?
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> those who want to play mp3 and other video stuff and install java and so on use easyubuntu. It installs everything what you need and and it is easy to use
[04:20] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: ifconfig will only list the configured interfaces.  You probably just need to configure it and then bring that interface up.
[04:20] <gopi> opter: Pinnacle PCTV pro
[04:20] <Mabus06> Ku-guy: how do I configure it? It's not listen in network-admin either
[04:21] <^P> I need to create ubuntu-l10n-te mailing list for ubuntu-l10n-te Group? any one
[04:21] <gopi> whyami: When I click that volume speaker icon in Desktop, its opening alsa mixer
[04:21] <gopi> whyami: VIA 8237 alsa mixer
[04:21] <whyami> gopi: So you have 4 tabs: Playback, capture, switches, options?
[04:22] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: I just edit my /etc/network/interfaces file and then do ifup ethx (where x is the ethernet adapter number).
[04:22] <gopi> whyami: Only Playback and Capture
[04:22] <dollar> _mustard, look man, I'm gonna send u a snsapshot of what's happening when i log in... because i tried not putting the root password and still i could open the ntfs drives
[04:22] <MikeMac> Can you detect the card yet?
[04:23] <whyami> gopi: and in capture you have everything turned up and no xs on any of the speaker icons?
[04:23] <Mabus06> Ku-guy: add how? And it should be ath0 as it's a wireless card with atheros chipset
[04:23] <gopi> whyami: yeah
[04:24] <whyami> gopi: and probably the same in playback, huh? Bummer.
[04:24] <gopi> whyami: yes :)
[04:24] <na> Hi Room, just ordered ubunto. Will it work on my old Win 98, 233mz, 64Mb machine?
[04:24] <whyami> gopi: so now you are reasoning that xawtv must not be sending sound to your sound card...
[04:25] <dErF[A] > s.
[04:25] <whyami> na: I have a 128Mb machine otherwise like what you described. Works OK with xubuntu, it appears...
[04:25] <gopi> whyami: Actually before installing xawtv the Line might have been muted.... and later I unmuted it.... So this let me try before installing making Line in to full 100% and then installing xawtv......
[04:26] <na> coon, thx
[04:26] <mcquaid> i never liked xawtv
[04:26] <gopi> whyami: yes maybe
[04:26] <gopi> mcquaid: Then which is better ?
[04:26] <mcquaid> if your needing something for tv tuner playback tvtime is the best
[04:26] <Toma-> anyone use freevo? or is mythtv worth the effort?
[04:26] <opter> TvTime is pretty good
[04:26] <InnerFIRE> where can i download w32codecs?
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !codecs
[04:27] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:27] <InnerFIRE> !easysource
[04:27] <gopi> Toma- mythtv is a waste in AMD64..... I tried 100 times in installing it and it says broken packages in mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend
[04:27] <Frogzoo> !restricted
[04:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:27] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:27] <kronoz> InnerFIRE: wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:27] <Protocol1> !java
[04:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:27] <kronoz> InnerFIRE: wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:27] <kronoz>   sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:27] <NaosZ> I have the same issue InnreFire.. seems you have to uninstal and then reinstal then media players after doing the codecs :(
[04:27] <corvax> anyone using gtkpod?
[04:27] <Protocol1> !javadebs
[04:27] <InnerFIRE> thanx
[04:28] <kronoz> InnerFIRE: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs
[04:28] <corvax> i thought it handled mp4a files
[04:28] <dollar>  can i send a snapshot to one of u plz? it describes what's happening when i log in into my user account
[04:28] <mcquaid> i've had the w32 codecs since hoary and they were apt-get able
[04:28] <NaosZ> *innerFIRE
[04:28] <mcquaid> was there an old rep that's no longer available?
[04:28] <gopi> From where I can download Ubuntu breezy 32-bit please ?
[04:28] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: Sorry about the delay.  I'm connected using irssi on a remote host and my shell session dropped!  Anyway, if lspci shows your card, and you have the correct driver module loaded, then you should be able to configure it and bring it up.
[04:28] <alvaro_> Hi everybody
[04:29] <kronoz> hi
[04:29] <mcquaid> anyone here use a voodoo card in ubuntu?
[04:29] <Mabus06> Ku-guy: I can't configure it, I am not sure if I see it in lspci, and I don't know if I have the correct driver module loaded
[04:29] <alvaro_> i'm testing ubuntu
[04:29] <NaosZ> and mplayer wont install :( which is a shame as Kubuntu seems pretty cool, its just coming up short on media usabilty.. for me anyways
[04:29] <mcquaid> my gf4 just died and i had to slap in this old voodoo3 in
[04:29] <mcquaid> can't get dri to work via the tdfx driver
[04:29] <mcquaid> way back when voodoo cards used to be easy in linux
[04:29] <dollar> can i send a snapshot to one of u plz? it describes what's happening when i log in into my user account
[04:29] <alvaro_> do you know how to see a DVD? Which software is better?
[04:30] <gnomefreak> !dvd
[04:30] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[04:30] <TueM> somebody help me
[04:30] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[04:30] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:30] <alvaro_> thanks
[04:30] <gnomefreak> alvaro_: you need the restricted one also
[04:30] <alvaro_> i have just installed my ubuntu and it's first time i use it
[04:31] <corvax> check out this error message http://pastebin.com/610693
[04:31] <whyami> mcquaid: this is ati, right? You are trying to use fglrx? Did you check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[04:31] <gnomefreak> TueM: we can not help you with knowing what you need help with
[04:31] <TueM> when  I write in terminal ./desktop or other directory
[04:31] <corvax> any ideas how to fix that
[04:31] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: Then there's not much else I can do to help.  Good luck though.
[04:31] <mcquaid> whyami, no old ass voodoo card, 3dfx
[04:31] <corvax> im not sure how to compile that with that
[04:31] <qadir> dd
[04:31] <mcquaid> the once king of 3d cards
[04:31] <TueM> this is th error : is a directory
[04:31] <TueM> but i want to enter in this directory
[04:31] <Mabus06> So is there anything I can do short of reinstalling ubuntu to get my card to work? It works on fresh install but doesn't even appear in lspci if I plug it in after install.
[04:31] <gnomefreak> TueM: what are you trying to do?
[04:32] <TueM> to change directory
[04:32] <gnomefreak> TueM: cd Desktop
[04:32] <gnomefreak> with a cap d
[04:32] <TueM> yes
[04:32] <gnomefreak> D
[04:32] <TueM> but i  have an error
[04:32] <mcquaid> i believe one never has to reinstall, it might take you 4 times longer, and gain a few more grey hairs, but then you'll learn
[04:32] <TueM> : No such file or directory
[04:33] <gnomefreak> TueM: first ./desktop wont do anything you need to type just like this cd Desktop
[04:33] <robinl1> huOMFkaah
[04:33] <TueM>  I try thanks
[04:33] <kudeta> heya
[04:33] <robinl1> huOMFkaah
[04:33] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: Is it on the pci bus?  Is it a usb device, perhaps?  If usb, then lsusb.
[04:33] <kudeta> i followed the instructions on the ubuntu forums to update my ati drivers...that seemd to go smoothly
[04:33] <Mabus06> It is a usb device.
[04:33] <kudeta> however
[04:33] <Mabus06> I mean
[04:33] <Mabus06> pci
[04:33] <kudeta> i now have to "Device" sections in my xorg.conf
[04:33] <TueM> I have the same error
[04:33] <kudeta> and my xvinfo isn't working
[04:33] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: Ok.  That's why.  Use lsusb then.
[04:33] <kudeta> when it should?
[04:34] <TueM> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[04:34] <pcw> QUIT
[04:34] <kingspawn> TueM: desktop with a capital D, perhaps?
[04:34] <whyami> kudeta: what ati card?
[04:34] <TueM> I try
[04:34] <kudeta> x600 pro 256mb saphire
[04:35] <TueM> yes
[04:35] <kudeta> infact xvinfo now does give me somethjing
[04:35] <kudeta> but mplayer still wont play files
[04:35] <TueM> thank ch very mu
[04:35] <TueM> much
[04:35] <kudeta> even though ive set it all up correctly
[04:35] <kudeta> as far as i can see
[04:35] <whyami> kudeta: is xvinfo saying no adapters present, or is it giving you a list of adapters?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:35] <kudeta> it now gives me a list of adapters
[04:35] <Ku-guy> Mabus06: Oh... well then lspci if it's a pci device.  :-)
[04:36] <kudeta> Adaptor #0: "ATI Radeon Video Overlay"
[04:36] <kudeta>     number of ports: 1
[04:36] <kudeta>     port base: 115
[04:36] <kudeta>     operations supported: PutImage
[04:36] <kudeta>     supported visuals:
[04:36] <kudeta> and goes on
[04:36] <gopi> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso  <----- This one I can install in my Athlon64 system ???
[04:36] <kudeta> oops sorry
[04:36] <gopi> Anyone  please ?
[04:37] <ipfw> gopi: yeah, you can use that ISO to make a CD to install on your athlon64 system.. It will only run as x86, and not x86_64 though
[04:37] <ipfw> gopi: so the amd64 processor will be running in 32bit mode
[04:37] <gopi> ipfw: Oh okay !! Thanks
[04:37] <roh> gopi there is a extra-cd for 64bit on your system.
[04:38] <ipfw> the ubuntu linux would run a bit faster with the amd64.iso, but the i386.iso will _work_ :)
[04:38] <gopi> roh: I know, I dont want to install 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:38] <Darky> hi all :)
[04:38] <gopi> roh: extra cd ? What do u mean ?
[04:39] <roh> gopi not extra, but a special one .. but if you already know
[04:39] <Darky> i got eror wile install program the eror is: """"checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir o ption given
[04:39] <Darky> """" can any one help me?
[04:39] <gopi> roh: You mean Ubuntu for AMD64 systems?
[04:39] <roh> gopi both
[04:39] <neo911> how would i test if an ldap server is running in a remote machine? thanks!
[04:40] <gopi> roh: well, you mean in 32-bit Ubuntu CD, there is also a seperate one for 64-bit ?
[04:40] <Darky> any one?
[04:40] <roh> yes.
[04:40] <whyami> Darky: it looks like need the qt development files, then export QTDIR to point to them.
[04:40] <gopi> roh: oh i see
[04:41] <ipfw> gopi : name would be something like: ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso
[04:41] <roh> gopi http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ has a list.. there is for i386 (32bit) mac (ppc) and amd64-archs
[04:41] <Darky> K i will check it....
[04:42] <gopi> ok.. thanks all
[04:43] <dollar> hey, when i log in i get a message sayin: Run as root - KDE su in which there's a command sayin: nautilus'-sm-config-prefix'  and asking me to put the root pasword... what is that? any idea?
[04:43] <sudharsh> dollar: input ur password
[04:43] <sudharsh> !sudo
[04:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:43] <dollar> what does it do?
[04:43] <neo911> !openldap gq
[04:43] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, neo911
[04:44] <ipfw> dollar : you really don't want me to tell you Your own root password, do you ? :)
[04:44] <sudharsh> dollar: check the lik ubotu gave now
[04:44] <sudharsh> !sudo
[04:44] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:44] <ipfw> dollar : Root is the "super user, that can access _everything_" so, this program is just saying that it needs root access
[04:44] <sudharsh> !sudharsh
[04:44] <ubotu> sudharsh: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <sudharsh> oops
[04:44] <dollar> u're smart dude u know, of course i dont, am askin u y it's requiring a password?
[04:45] <sudharsh> :)
[04:45] <ipfw> dollar: the program needs root permission to run (lots of programs need root access)
[04:45] <deizi> package not found
[04:45] <LeeJunFan> anyone here ever setup a local ntp server? my clients can't get time from it because they say the stratum is too high.
[04:45] <dollar> what does that program do?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis>  stratum  - :) what a cool word that is....
[04:46] <IdleOne> dollar> it ask for a password when you use sudo to make sure that you are allowed to do what you are trying to do :)
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: not if it means crap doesn't work :p
[04:46] <dollar> plus , y is it poppin up lately? what did i do?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  thats almost as cool a word as 'Zeiner'
[04:46] <bSON> hi
[04:46] <neo911> how would i test if a ldap server is running in a remote machine?
[04:46] <MikeMac> How can I rerun the installation script from my installation?
[04:46] <bSON> does the ubuntu dapper x.org server support the acceleration stuff from fedora (aiglx)?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> 'The Zeiner Diode is  to high in the Stratum!"
[04:47] <MikeMac> I want to install something that normally gets picked up during the cd install, but I don't want to wipe my system.
[04:47] <IdleOne> bsm> join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie !
[04:47] <neo911> i wanna know if the server is not running or there is a problem how i connect to ldap
[04:47] <Darky> :)
[04:47] <Darky> one more
[04:47] <Darky> :
[04:47] <neo911> my question is either stupid or no one knows what im talking about he he
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  i think the stratum refers to the different 'layers' of the servers where the lower time servers sync with the higher ones.  if a lower server tryes to sync with too high a stratum its like.. bypassing the chain of command.
[04:47] <Darky> checking for SDL - version >= 1.0.0... no
[04:47] <Darky> *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found
[04:47] <Darky> *** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[04:47] <Darky> *** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the
[04:47] <Darky> *** full path to sdl-config.
[04:48] <Darky> configure: error: SDL required
[04:48] <Healot> neo911, use LDAP client?
[04:48] <Darky>  what i have to download?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  at least i seem to recall that from some ntp docs/sites i read ages ago.
[04:48] <polizeiwt> hello
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: yeah, I got that much. But that seems to make it impossible to have a local timeserver if the clients refuse to talk to it because the stratum is too high.
[04:49] <ipfw> Darky: I thik its pretty obvious its asking for SDL version 1.x.x -- You need to install SDL, or make sure SDL is installed & configured properly
[04:49] <neo911> Healot, i am using an LDAP client, i just want to know if the problem is with the client or the remote machine is actually rejecting me or is not running the ldap server at all
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  ive rarely messed with it much. i would guess you can set your servers stratum lower..  or allow it to be synced by  other clients.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> LeeJunFan,  I rember the good old days of having to enter the date/time on boot up. :P
[04:50] <rico> hello
[04:50] <rico> who's speaking french ?
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> Dr_Willis: yeah, one would think, but I'll be damned if it's that simple.  I added "Aux" in alsa mixer and now audio is working !!!!!
[04:51] <Darky> fo SDL 1.X.X
[04:51] <Healot> neo911, then port scanning or telnet will do
[04:51] <gopi> Thanks
[04:51] <na> I'm getting boot failed when I load the ubunto cd
[04:51] <Darky> rico, are you playing SOF2?
[04:51] <ipfw> Darky: synaptics package manger search for SDL should return something, if it doesn't then your source.list is weak ;)
[04:52] <gopi> Does Totem movie player plays avi ???
[04:52] <gopi> Its not playing for me
[04:52] <Darky> great... :\
[04:52] <ipfw> gopi : it can, might need a codec package though
[04:52] <ipfw> !source.list
[04:52] <ubotu> ipfw: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:52] <Healot> b y default install, nay. you need to install the gstreamer video plugins first
[04:52] <ipfw> !source-o-matic
[04:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:52] <gopi> ipfw: what should I get then?
[04:53] <IdleOne> !tell gopi about w32codecs
[04:53] <ipfw> Darky : go to that source-o-matic place if you need to get a new sources.list file
[04:53] <SanoPt> oi
[04:53] <ipfw> !w32codecs
[04:53] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:53] <SanoPt> alguem sabe como instalar codecs de multimedia
[04:53] <tyler> any linux apps that can play live streaming tv files like pps, asx, etc?
[04:53] <tyler> any linux apps that can play live streaming tv files like pps, asx, etc?
[04:53] <IdleOne> !es
[04:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:53] <gopi> IdleOne: even after getting w32 codecs Totem didnt play avi file... I tried it already
[04:53] <ipfw> tyler: mplayer can, no shut up !
[04:54] <Darky> " source-o-matic" ?
[04:54] <IdleOne> gopi> totem-xine maybe Im not sure
[04:54] <Darky> were ie it?
[04:54] <Darky> :)
[04:54] <kronoz> tyler: mplayer, totem
[04:54] <gopi> IdleOne: oh ok
[04:54] <HiddenPuppy> Hi guys. I recently switched from a lan to a ppp connection. ppp0 comes up and is correctly configured, but ubuntu is still trying to use the now unconfigured eth0. How do I get rid of eth0 or set ppp0 as default?
[04:54] <mikeX> hello, what's up with dpkg-reconfigure locales, I can't select locales anymore
[04:54] <ipfw> Darky: source-o-matic is a webpage that helps generate a new sources.list file for you to use (gives access to more packages)
[04:54] <Darky> K tnx
[04:55] <ipfw> Darky: you take what it makes, and put it as your new /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:55] <ipfw> darky : after backing up the old one of course
[04:55] <Darky> tnx
[04:55] <gopi> IdleOne: totem-xine how to get it ?
[04:55] <IdleOne> gopi>  sudo apt-getinstall totem-xine
[04:55] <IdleOne> gopi>  sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:56] <gopi> IdleOne: ok
[04:56] <IdleOne> gopi>  like I said I am not certain and ipfw can probably help you more :)
[04:57] <Mabus06> Hello.. I just restarted my computer and now gnome won't load, I've tried reconfiguring xserver but that didn't help
[04:57] <ipfw> IdleOne: I'm more of a mplayer/vlc user, I just know my totem thing plays most everything also
[04:57] <ipfw> !easybuntu
[04:57] <ubotu> ipfw: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:57] <ipfw> stupid bot !
[04:57] <gopi> IdleOne, ipfw: totem-xine is another media player similar to totem movie player ?
[04:57] <_jason> Mabus06: how far does it get?  do you get any error messages?
[04:57] <IdleOne> ipfw> I only know about totem-xine from seeing others talk about in here otherwise I have no sound whatsoever on this box so no need for media players :/
[04:57] <hmrocha> hello
[04:58] <ipfw> gopi : there is a new program called "easybuntu", if you install it -- It can setup/install loads of common programs correctly for you
[04:58] <hmrocha> in "Service Settings" i don't see the daytime protocol, how can i activate it?
[04:58] <_jason> ipfw, gopi: easyubuntu
[04:58] <ipfw> gopi : I recommend it... want me to google search for the link ?
[04:58] <ipfw> !easyubuntu
[04:58] <gopi> ipfw: sure
[04:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:58] <ipfw> there we go !
[04:58] <ipfw> gopi : I got it that time, _jason let me know I was typing it wrong :P
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> wonder if easyubuntu is easially reversed. :P
[04:58] <Mabus06> _jason: I got some error message about utf-8 initially on the first fail, but now I don't even get that
[04:59] <gopi> ipfw: But totem-xine is a media player similar to totem movie player ?
[04:59] <Souvent22> hello.
[04:59] <_jason> Mabus06: does gdm start and then gnome fail to load after login?  or does gdm not even start?
[04:59] <HiddenWolf> gopi: same player, different backend
[04:59] <ipfw> gopi : out of everything listed, I would recommend installing everything it has to offer *Except the ATI drivers*, and thats just because it locks my system when I try them ;)
[05:00] <gopi> HiddenWolf, ipfw: okay
[05:00] <IdleOne> gopi>  yeah but have you tried mplayer... ipfw can help you with that cause he also uses it
[05:00] <Mabus06> _jason: I tried /etc/init.d/gdm start and it didn't work, so I assume it isn't starting
[05:00] <kronoz> the ati dirvers ar pretty poor
[05:00] <ipfw> gopi : yes, totem is the frontend, and totem-xine uses xine-lib to play movies :)
[05:00] <j2daosh> ok, i cant make anything
[05:00] <HiddenWolf> kronoz: same goes for nvidia, matrox, and all others. :)
[05:00] <Trae> Do you guys think it's possible to turn off pci slots in the bios?
[05:00] <_jason> Mabus06: put /var/log/Xorg.log on pastebin
[05:00] <IdleOne> j2daosh> sudo apt-get install build-essential will fix your make isues
[05:00] <SanoPt> help codecs
[05:01] <Trae> trying to figure out why my pci network card isn't working.
[05:01] <GTX>  anyone here an exspert on printers? I need help on my samgsung network printer CLP-510
[05:01] <j2daosh> it keeps telling me that it has taken an error and gcc cant compile the executables....
[05:01] <_jason> SanoPt: which ones?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Trae,  hmm.. not sure thats possible.
[05:01] <j2daosh> woot woot
[05:01] <SanoPt> multimedia
[05:01] <j2daosh> lemme try
[05:01] <gopi> IdleOne, ipfw: Yeah mplayer also didnt play .avi file.... I tried even after installing w32 codecs...
[05:01] <SanoPt> divX
[05:01] <kronoz> HiddenWolf: the nvidia drivers aren't all that bad, just every release something is fixed and something is broken again :(
[05:01] <Mabus06> _jason: how to do that with no gui?
[05:01] <Trae> Dr_Willis, having a heck of a time tryying to figure out what's going on with no networking
[05:01] <ipfw> _jason : my ATI radeon 9000 Locked the system solid with the attemp from easyubuntu to install the commercial drivers ;P
[05:01] <Trae> thing is
[05:02] <GTX> _jason, you know much about printers?
[05:02] <_jason> Mabus06: there used to be a script somewhere... one sec
[05:02] <IdleOne> gopi>  go to that easyubuntu link that will install the media players and codecs for you properly and should work good
[05:02] <Trae> I can configure the card and ping the ip address of the card
[05:02] <gopi> IdleOne: ipfw: So currently I am getting totem-xine... let me try it
[05:02] <_jason> ipfw: make a bug report or inform #easyubuntu
[05:02] <Trae> but can't ping anywhere else
[05:02] <ipfw> gopi : its probobaly more that your system isn't pointing to the installed codecs like it should, running the easyubuntu installer will fix that for you :)
[05:02] <Trae> if I can configure the card that means it's there
[05:02] <HiddenWolf> kronoz: if they break regularly, they're broken in my book
[05:02] <ipfw> gopi : just trust me, its magic
[05:02] <_jason> GTX: only mine
[05:02] <ipfw> _jason : I might generate one, I'm to lazy right now though :P
[05:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell GTX about print
[05:03] <GTX> _jason, Ive got the cups drivers and everything, its printing VIA IPP it just doesnt work man
[05:03] <gopi> ipfw: ok thanks
[05:03] <ipfw> _jason : Basically, I'm hearing it locks all the ATI Moble (ATI radeon 9000 Moble) ones (people with laptops)
[05:04] <_jason> Mabus06: you are using irssi now?
[05:04] <Souvent22> have a question about how email works in linux/Ubuntu...
[05:04] <roh> ipfw radeon9000 is supported by default by the opensource-drivers. no need for firegl
[05:04] <GTX> _jason, what did you say again
[05:04] <ipfw> _jason : at least the installer is smart enough to keep a backup file, and not put the new one in place until its verified working, so the hard reboot brought me right back up
[05:04] <GTX> my X got reset
[05:04] <k3ninho> about Dapper Flight 5: what /should/ it look like -- both the i386 and AMD64 live disks display a brown Ubuntu logo and don't do anything else -- is it broken?
[05:04] <Souvent22> there are so many packages, and just trying to see whta's an actualy email server, and what's an email "client"/viewer.
[05:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell GTX about print
[05:04] <Mabus06> _jason: yes
[05:04] <_jason> GTX: check those two links ubotu sent
[05:04] <ipfw> Souvent22: email (smtp/pop3/imap) works the same on all platforms
[05:04] <_jason> Mabus06: I can't find the script
[05:05] <Eleaf> What is a good ftp server?  Just ftpd?
[05:05] <Mabus06> _jason: one second, actually
[05:05] <Souvent22> ipfw: but, itsn't postfix an email server, and pine just allows your to view your email?
[05:05] <IdleOne> k3ninho> should look very similar to breezy with some diffs of course
[05:05] <dabaR> Eleaf: search your package manager for that.
[05:05] <Mabus06> _jason: nickroberts.zapto.org/Xorg.0.log
[05:05] <Eleaf> dabaR, I did
[05:05] <ipfw> Souvent22: I recommend that Mozilla Thunderbird thing for an Email client, and Postfix (courier or cyrus) if you need a smtp/pop3/imap server setup
[05:05] <k3ninho> idleone: not helpful, I've not used Breezy.
[05:05] <tyler> how do i stream a live streaming tv channel?
[05:05] <Souvent22> ok. thanks. :) .
[05:05] <Eleaf> dabaR, I saw many, I just wanted to see what people like the best.  ftpd doesn't seem to be a 'supported' ubuntu package
[05:05] <k3ninho> idleone: but thanks.
[05:06] <Souvent22> what's the relationship between fetchmail and procmail ?
[05:06] <reduz> Question: How does one upgrade from a currently installed badger to dapper drake?
[05:06] <ipfw> Souvent22: Evolution is a fancy email client, attempt to clone MS outlook
[05:06] <IdleOne> k3ninho>  with the info you provided it was helpful info :P in any case you should have a login window in center of your screen
[05:06] <dabaR> Eleaf: ftp sends data and passwords in plain text. I use sftp, with vsftpd, or just openssh-server
[05:06] <dabaR> Eleaf: proftpd is popular.
[05:06] <SanoPt> Does any one know were are codecs to see DIVX's movies and were is a good tutorial to install them?
[05:06] <Eleaf> dabaR, ah, you can use openssh-server to use ftp?  Will it accept requests right away or do you have to do some configuring?
[05:06] <dabaR> !codecs
[05:06] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:06] <k3ninho> idleone: it doesn't even appear to start the d-i stuff that I'd read should happen.
[05:07] <ipfw> Souvent22: there are tons of client & servers .. you can search freshmeat.net if you want to find more
[05:07] <j2daosh> ok, ubuntu is based on what linux distro?
[05:07] <j2daosh> gnome?
[05:07] <j2daosh> or KDE?
[05:07] <hmrocha> j2daosh: debian
[05:07] <michael_> how can I link the Super key to the applications menu?
[05:07] <Mabus06> j2daosh: gnome is the diaplay manager, it's based off of debian
[05:07] <IdleOne> k3ninho>  join #ubuntu+1 for help with Dapper :) and pie ! can help you more
[05:07] <hmrocha> j2daosh: gnome and kde are not linux distros
[05:07] <dabaR> SanoPt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <j2daosh> oh... well display manager i mean
[05:07] <SanoPt> |easysource
[05:07] <Souvent22> ok.
[05:07] <ipfw> j2daosh: gnome & kde are Desktop Environments -- Debian is the Linux Distro its based from
[05:07] <SanoPt> thanks
[05:08] <sudharsh> !easysource
[05:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:08] <k3ninho> cheers all.
[05:08] <k3ninho> \close
[05:08] <Eleaf> dabaR, I'll try proftp for now
[05:08] <dabaR> Eleaf: sure, remember, password is sent in plain text.
[05:08] <j2daosh> ok... im still having troubles doing a make... i cant use KDE programs or Gnome programs because something is wrong in the path during the ./configure step
[05:08] <_jason> Mabus06: what did you do befor rebooting?
[05:08] <j2daosh> what the hell is going on?
[05:08] <Eleaf> dabaR, with proftp?
[05:08] <Jonnings> my XMMS seems to handle nordic characters badly, it works if i through terminal specify  LANG=no_NO, but is there no better way of doing this?
[05:08] <Eleaf> dabaR, I thought that was ftpd.
[05:08] <Mabus06> _jason: plugged in a wifi card
[05:09] <dabaR> perhaps you should create a user for ftp purposes without admin privileges. proftpd is the one I was talking about. That one always gets recommended here.
[05:09] <zincky> Who would liketo help a newb with a few stupid questions?
[05:09] <Mabus06> !ask
[05:09] <ipfw> j2daosh: unbuntu is binary based to begin with, if you are trying to compile sources you will need to install the developmental tools (gcc make etc)
[05:09] <_jason> Mabus06: does removing it let you start X?
[05:09] <Mabus06> !helpme
[05:09] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[05:09] <IdleOne> zincky> no such thing as a stupid question...shoot
[05:09] <dabaR> ubotu: tell zincky about ask
[05:09] <zincky> First, I have an external USB HD.  I want to access that HD.
[05:09] <ipfw> j2daosh: would be easier to just apt-get install gnome-desktop kde-dekstop ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop ... or something like that :)
[05:10] <Eleaf> dabaR, alright.  It isn't that big of a deal with security considering this will be a distributive project, with many users connecting to the ftp server.
[05:10] <Mabus06> _jason: I don't think so, and that's what I rebooted for, so that would not be acceptable anyway... besides, I had run it many a time before without it causing gnome to crash, and that doesn't make much sense to me
[05:10] <dabaR> Eleaf: OK.
[05:10] <_jason> Mabus06: so you end up at prompt now without error messages right?
[05:11] <j2daosh> i have those installed... i also just got the build-essential, tools and it got farther then it did before but it is still screwing up
[05:11] <mcquaid> anyone here have an ati card working with the dri driver?
[05:11] <j2daosh> all i want is to get samba working... if i need a gui to do it then damnit im gonna have a gui
[05:11] <IdleOne> new user accounts should be in adm or admin to have root privs?
[05:11] <ipfw> j2daosh: you don't need a freaking gui for samba
[05:11] <_jason> IdleOne: admin
[05:11] <IdleOne> _jason>  thank you
[05:12] <ipfw> j2daosh: samba has a swat config took that runs though http to help config it, or heck you can just vim the config file by hand
[05:12] <j2daosh> i know i dont need one but it helps me visualize what is going on and then i can figure out why my shit aint working
[05:12] <Eleaf> dabaR, It's installed, and created the directory /home/ftp, is there a way I can make the ftp home /var/www/rendered  etc.?
[05:12] <dabaR> IdleOne: they need to be in the admin group in order to sudo.
[05:12] <ipfw> j2daosh: my question is why are you trying to build the Desktop Environments by hand ?
[05:12] <j2daosh> ipf it setup defualts but still everything is screwed up
[05:12] <ipfw> j2daosh: why not just apt-get install kde gnome ?
[05:12] <IdleOne> dabaR>  thank you  thats what I wanted to know :)
[05:13] <elbereth_> hi there
[05:13] <j2daosh> im not... the ./configure stage keeps telling me a path is off for something to do with KDE/Gnome
[05:13] <dabaR> Eleaf: I do not know much about ftp. I know that ftp can be accessed by authorized users of the system remotely, and they can go into any folder they can go to locally. s/folder/directory/g
[05:13] <tyler> how do u stream something with mplayer, whats the cli?how do u stream something with mplayer, whats the cli?
[05:13] <Eleaf> I see...
[05:13] <Gwynn> "here be dragons" coincidence has it I founded The Dragonhunt
[05:13] <dabaR> !cli
[05:13] <_jason> tyler: mplayer something, sometimes mplayer -playlist something
[05:13] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:13] <ipfw> j2daosh: oh ... the package installs are breaking on you ..
[05:13] <ipfw> j2daosh: sorry, I was reading you wrong
[05:14] <j2daosh> yep
[05:14] <j2daosh> sorry i was confusing everyone
[05:14] <dabaR> $20
[05:14] <gilianima> amarok doesn't work on dapper ? i have no sound for any mp3...
[05:14] <dabaR> for restitution.
[05:14] <j2daosh> myt terminology isn't as good as it should be
[05:14] <dabaR> !dapper
[05:14] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[05:14] <tyler> _jason, seems i did that, but i get error msg..
[05:14] <tyler> pls take a look
[05:14] <_jason> tyler: pastebin
[05:14] <tyler> ok...
[05:14] <spoon> hello  /all
[05:14] <ipfw> j2daosh: not sure what could be the deal, kde/gnome/xfce and so on just jumped right on my box after I updated my sources.list witht the source-o-matic
[05:14] <w32> hey
[05:15] <tyler> wheres the pastebin, sorry im new to linux
[05:15] <tyler> :(
[05:15] <_jason> tyler: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:15] <spoon> anybody here tried paros proxy on ubuuntu?
[05:15] <Eleaf> alright then
[05:15] <Storkme> how do i add a program to my Applications menu?
[05:15] <mcquaid> no one here using dri for ati?
[05:15] <elbereth_> ive got a "little" problem with my notebook. i just installed ubuntu. the only resolution in "xorg.conf" is 1440x900 (which is correct) but it adepts 1024x800 and the only options in the menu are 1024x800 and less. can anybody help me?
[05:15] <_jason> Storkme: applications > system tools > apllications menu editor
[05:15] <j2daosh> yeah they are there and im using the gnome desktop, its just something must be off where i can see everything ok but a make gets confused
[05:15] <Eleaf> How do I have a link to a directory? "hard link not allowed for directory"
[05:15] <Storkme> thanks _jason
[05:15] <Eleaf> I want two identical directories
[05:15] <_jason> Mabus06: so you end up at prompt now without error messages right?
[05:16] <spoon> Eleaf: softlink
[05:16] <Eleaf> ok symbolic?
[05:16] <Mabus06> _jason: I removed some of the higher resolutions from my xorg and now I managed to get in
[05:16] <Eleaf> spo0nman, cool that worked, just wondering, why do hardlinks not work for directories while softlinks do?
[05:16] <_jason> Mabus06: ah, weird, I did read something about that in the log but didn't think it would cause that
[05:17] <j2daosh> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[05:17] <j2daosh> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[05:17] <j2daosh> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[05:17] <j2daosh> *** full path to gtk-config.
[05:17] <j2daosh> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[05:17] <spoon> Eleaf: avent gotten a clue ;)
[05:17] <Eleaf> ;)
[05:17] <j2daosh> that is the crap i keep getting and it is really annoying me!?!
[05:17] <spoon> does anyone have paros proxy working?
[05:18] <kingspawn> j2daosh: where is gtk-config located?
[05:18] <_jason> j2daosh: try installing the libgtk -dev stuff
[05:18] <dabaR> Paste ayone?
[05:19] <tyler> http://pastebin.com/610775
[05:19] <mcquaid> not sure how i've done this. anything under places opens with thunar except home which opens with nautilus
[05:19] <tyler> take a look, _jason
[05:19] <spoon> does anybody have a working local proxy?
[05:19] <spoon> i cant set it up...
[05:19] <_jason> tyler: what is ppstream?
[05:20] <tyler> thats the stream i want....
[05:20] <tyler> :(
[05:20] <tyler> u mean mplayer doesnt play it?
[05:20] <dabaR> tyler: maybe it does.
[05:20] <_jason> tyler: can you give me a link to the original site?
[05:20] <dabaR> tyler: google would probably know.
[05:20] <tyler> dabaR,  how?
[05:21] <Protocol1> !mplayer
[05:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:21] <Davey> mcquaid: thunar?
[05:21] <_jason> tyler: #mplayer would definitely know more about it
[05:21] <mcquaid> thunar is the file browser for xfce, i find it much faster than nautilus and almost on par in features
[05:22] <mcquaid> i was thinking on changing 'places' to open with thunar instead of nautilus
[05:22] <Eleaf> How do I delete a user that doesn't show up in the users and groups control panel?
[05:22] <SanoPt> Is there any linux that doesn't need us to install codecs? :|
[05:22] <dabaR> SanoPt: probably.
[05:22] <mcquaid> i don't see how i could have changed this behaviour though, everything except home uses thunar now instead of nautilus
[05:22] <dabaR> SanoPt: it is easy to install.
[05:22] <mcquaid> i'd rather it be all one or the other
[05:23] <SanoPt> I can't even find w32codecs to download
[05:23] <dabaR> !w32codecs
[05:23] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:23] <_jason> tyler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPStream
[05:23] <dabaR> SanoPt: in reality you have been trying only for about 5 mins.
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> dabaR: its amazing how some users have attention span of a fly..
[05:24] <Eleaf> dabaR, proftp created the user 'ftp' but this user doesn't exist.
[05:24] <dabaR> haha, no.
[05:24] <Eleaf> dabaR, and yet I cannot create a new 'ftp' account username
[05:24] <hatake_kakashi> or how should I put it, the persistance of a fly
[05:25] <mpoz22> Is the installer (espresso) on Flight5 supposed to work? Here it stops after partioning my disks...
[05:25] <Eleaf> dabaR, how do I delete the user ftp?
[05:25] <mcquaid> someone here must be using ati with the dri drivers. or any card with dri drivers
[05:25] <tyler> _jason, thats right, how to play this stream,sir?
[05:25] <dabaR> Eleaf: don't even worry about it.
[05:25] <mcquaid> i just want to see the output of glxinfo with verbose with a working dri card
[05:25] <Eleaf> dabaR, I need to create an ftp user account though
[05:25] <_jason> tyler: it's a p2p stream, you probably need special software
[05:25] <Eleaf> dabaR, with the username ftp
[05:25] <SanoPt> dabar: in reality I'm trying it for days... :|
[05:25] <dabaR> Eleaf: create a normal user name.
[05:25] <roh> mcquaid i do. works great. (opensource drivers on a radeon9000pro)
[05:25] <Eleaf> dabaR, eek.
[05:25] <mcquaid> roh, ok could you do me a quick favour?
[05:26] <roh> mcquaid depends
[05:26] <roh> ;)
[05:26] <mcquaid> roh, at a term do this: export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[05:26] <mcquaid> then run glxinfo
[05:26] <mcquaid> i just want to see the first few lines
[05:26] <mcquaid> pm it to me
[05:26] <tyler> oh, what kinda stream url can mplayer play then???
[05:26] <mpoz22> Aside espresso, is there a manuall install option for the live-cd?
[05:26] <mcquaid> i'm trying to troubleshoot my card and i want to see the output of a working card
[05:26] <tyler> cos i dont think its linux enabled
[05:26] <SanoPt> !terminal
[05:26] <tyler> :(
[05:27] <_jason> tyler: mplayer can do a lot of streams.  http, mms, rtsp.  I don't know all of the specifics
[05:27] <roh> mcquaid what card/drivers do you use? my machine with the radeon is still a debian-sid
[05:27] <mcquaid> debian-sid using xorg?
[05:27] <roh> yes
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> tyler: for more information, visit mplayer's site
[05:27] <mcquaid> ok thats fine then
[05:27] <mcquaid> the output will still be relevant
[05:28] <mcquaid> roh, so could you do that for me, it's not something you have to run as root, it won't affect anything
[05:29] <zipher> problems with parallel printer
[05:29] <Jimmey__> mcquaid, he could just man it anyway, right?
[05:29] <mcquaid> man it?
[05:30] <Jimmey__> 'man' the command, I should've used quotes first time, not I just look like an ass.
[05:30] <roh> mcquaid yep.. what line exactly do you need?
[05:30] <zipher> any suggestions? worked under Windows... partially under Fedora.... "port busy" now..
[05:30] <mcquaid> roh, give me about the first 10
[05:30] <mcquaid> just pm me
[05:31] <mcquaid> Jimmey__, ya i know what man is. just dont see how it applies to what i'm talking about
[05:32] <Loevborg> Hi. Does anyone have a pointer to a reasonably current ndiswrapper for breezy?
[05:33] <zipher> parallel port print jobs go to queue but get paused after a few seconds... can't seem to clear it?!
[05:33] <SanoPt> I wrote wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb in the console, it processed and Still does work :S
[05:33] <montaro> hello everyone :)
[05:34] <Simor> exalted: hmm bu gcj ile bendemi urasam acaba biraz :)
[05:34] <zipher> anyone have fixes for parallel printer problems??
[05:34] <SanoPt> !codecs
[05:34] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:34] <SanoPt> !easysource
[05:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:35] <Simor> ops sorry
[05:36] <SanoPt> I wrote wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb in the console, it processed and Still doesn't work :S
[05:36] <zipher> having problems with parallel printer.... any suggestions? worked under Windows... partially under Fedora.... "port busy" now..  parallel port print jobs go to queue but get paused after a few seconds... can't seem to clear it?!  anyone have fixes for parallel printer problems??
[05:36] <Jimmey__> SanoPt - What're you trying to do?
[05:37] <SanoPt> installing codecs to see DIVX movies
[05:37] <Jimmey__> SanoPt, DivX work with VLC, have you/would you want to try that?
[05:37] <dollar> do i need  some antivirus or firewall software when running linux?
[05:37] <SanoPt> course...
[05:37] <SanoPt> vlc?
[05:37] <SanoPt> |VLC
[05:37] <SanoPt> !VLC
[05:37] <ubotu> vlc is, like, totally, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:38] <Jimmey__> dollar, depends on what you use it for
[05:38] <montaro> whats the different between Breezy & HOary?
[05:38] <Jimmey__> dollar, I use both anyway, because there's no harm - I use firestarter, and aegis-virus-scanner
[05:38] <dollar> what do u mean?
[05:39] <Jimmey__> dollar, if you use it for normal, desktop use, then you don't need to install either.
[05:39] <zipher> having problems with parallel printer.... any suggestions? worked under Windows... partially under Fedora.... "port busy" now..  parallel port print jobs go to queue but get paused after a few seconds... can't seem to clear it?!  anyone have fixes for parallel printer problems??
[05:39] <SanoPt> Jimmey__: is there any version of VLC to ubuntu?
[05:39] <dollar> what i meant was, is linux too secure that we don't need antivirus and firewall software?
[05:39] <spiritz> what is the equivalent of kpager for gnome?
[05:40] <SanoPt> witch version I donwload
[05:40] <Jimmey__> SanoPt, 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[05:40] <SanoPt> that's to put in the terminal right?
[05:40] <RageMax> *sigh*
[05:40] <Jimmey__> dollar, the only reason you'd have for running a anti-virus is to make sure you don't pass virii on to Windows users
[05:40] <Jimmey__> SanoPt, yep :P
[05:41] <micka> French
[05:41] <Frogzoo> so just how risky is hdparm -u 1 ?
[05:41] <Jimmey__> dollar, Ubuntu has an in-built firewall called IP-Tables, I use firestarer, which's just a user interface for that
[05:41] <micka> French ?
[05:41] <dollar> so from my side it's secure even without protection softwares?
[05:42] <dollar> am using Kubuntu, is it the same?
[05:42] <Jimmey__> dollar, yes, it is.
[05:43] <hovinen> On what basis is it decided whether the administration tools appear in the System->Administration menu? They do not appear on my account and I can't figure out how to get them to show up.
[05:43] <hovinen> (The .desktop files are present and, as far as I can tell, correct)
[05:44] <Frogzoo> hovinen: I'm wondering if groups has anything to do with it?
[05:45] <yancheng> may i noe wat is the use of MD5SUM.gpg file in http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/5.10/?
[05:45] <hovinen> Frogzoo, Quite possibly, but to which group should I add myself?
[05:45] <cici> could you tell me why i can't do update
[05:45] <zipher> having problems with parallel printer.... any suggestions? worked under Windows... partially under Fedora.... "port busy" now..  parallel port print jobs go to queue but get paused after a few seconds... can't seem to clear it?!  anyone have fixes for parallel printer problems?? using an Okipage 10e with a Compaq Deskpro..
[05:45] <Frogzoo> probably admin, but maybe adm
[05:45] <Jimmey__> cici, can you be more specific?
[05:46] <hovinen> Frogzoo, I'll try that. Thanks.
[05:46] <azurehuesofblue_> I keep getting an error that emacs21-nox is not configured yet... what should I do?
[05:46] <spiritz> andrewski: Ok so it's an applet, there's no way to start it without being in gnome?
[05:46] <cici> yes I click the update on the right top of the desktop
[05:46] <andrewski> spiritz: right click on your panel, select "add to panel" and search for "workspace" in the upper right.
[05:46] <cici> but it shows me many warnings
[05:47] <andrewski> spiritz: it has to be inside a running instance of gnome-panel, but you're free to run that anywhere.
[05:47] <spiritz> andrewski: Ok let me try that
[05:47] <spiritz> andrewski: I wanted to get this running under kde
[05:47] <andrewski> spiritz: what's wrong with kpager, since you want to use kde?
[05:47] <catpyss> Has anyone else been unable to use Ubuntu's PPC sshfs on Dapper?
[05:47] <Jimmey__> cici, can I see some of the warnings?
[05:47] <spiritz> andrewski: it is not supported by compiz :)
[05:47] <catpyss> I know I am probably the only PPC user in here ;)
[05:48] <andrewski> spiritz: oh... heh.
[05:48] <cici> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:48] <cici> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[05:48] <Jimmey__> catpyss, for Dapper info try #ubuntu+1
[05:48] <linkd> i dunno, ppc is sorta common catpyss
[05:48] <dabaR> !dapper
[05:48] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[05:48] <linkd> especially when there is 701 nicks here
[05:48] <catpyss> Jimmey__, thanks
[05:48] <slew> hi, whats the command that tells me my ip?
[05:48] <andrewski> slew: ifconfig
[05:48] <linkd> slew: ifconfg #will tell u the ip ur machinae has
[05:48] <dabaR> linkd: PPC!;)
[05:49] <linkd> *machine
[05:49] <slew> thanks fellas
[05:49] <slew> whats the command to reset the dhcp?
[05:49] <linkd> slew: well.. i tend to do ifdown <interface> && ifup <interface>
[05:49] <andrewski> slew: you could run /etc/init.d/networking restart, but that would restart all your networking.  i'm not sure of the dhcp-specific part though.
[05:50] <spiritz> andrewski: I have been able to add it to my gnome taskbar, however how do u add it to the desktop backround?
[05:50] <deizi> sometimes sudo apt-get doesn't work, why?
[05:50] <linkd> deizi: what errors do u get?
[05:50] <andrewski> spiritz: hmm, methinks kpager is not the same as this applet.  you're looking for something that sits alone on top of the desktop background?  i'm guessing it looks semi-transparent?
[05:50] <slew> linkd, andrewski thanks!
[05:51] <spiritz> andrewski: yes, I'll show u a screenshot
[05:51] <deizi> package not found etc
[05:51] <dabaR> deizi: then the package is not available.
[05:51] <linkd> *in that repo
[05:51] <dabaR> !repos
[05:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:51] <Frogzoo> deizi: I think it's the repos get overloaded from time to time + maintenance
[05:52] <andrewski> spiritz: ok.  i think that you're SOL since you're running very unstable software (compiz) on top of a stable KDE, which doesn't work with compiz yet.
[05:52] <slew> did they make an announcement about dapper being delayed?
[05:52] <madmike> slew: 6 weeks later
[05:52] <deizi> yup, too bad..
[05:52] <zipher> having problems with parallel port printer - okipage 10e with CompaqDeskpro - any suggestions? .. queues okay but then goes "port busy" .. can't seem to fix..
[05:53] <slew> good. give em time to make it that much better. =]
[05:53] <andrewski> everyone upgrade and help with bug reports!!!1
[05:53] <spiritz> andrewski: sorry but what does SOL stands for ? ;)
[05:53] <madmike> slew: I agree with you
[05:53] <andrewski> spiritz: hmm... let's say "something" out of luck.
[05:54] <Frogzoo> spiritz: SOL = supremely out of luck :)
[05:54] <Protocol1> yey...I got pretty much everything running on my flux box
[05:54] <michael_> how do I move a window to a dif desktop using hot keys?
[05:54] <Protocol1> now my windows wont boot after I restored ubuntu
[05:54] <Frogzoo> michael_: select window -> shift alt ctrl arrow
[05:54] <Jimmey__> Joppe rules
[05:55] <zipher> help.. having problems with parallel port printer - okipage 10e with CompaqDeskpro - any suggestions? .. queues okay but then goes "port busy" .. can't seem to fix..
[05:55] <makaveli> whats a good program for burning .bin .cue files?
[05:55] <paulproteus|lap1> makaveli: k3b can, I thiknk.
[05:55] <paulproteus|lap1> think, even.
[05:55] <Frogzoo> k3b is your friend
[05:55] <makaveli> thank u
[05:55] <madmike> sol = http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wrader/slang/s.html
[05:56] <andrewski> makaveli: i think gnomebaker might be a good first choice to try.
[05:56] <andrewski> ironically, it was after i heard about the 6-week delay that i decided to upgrade to dapper yesterday. :)
[05:56] <WoC> how do I force install of a set of local *.deb files without checking the signature?
[05:57] <andrewski> WoC: man apt-get; there's an option for it.
[05:57] <paulproteus|lap1> WoC: dpkg -i should do it.
[05:57] <paulproteus|lap1> gdebi will also do it.
[05:57] <WoC> Spasiba andrewski
[05:57] <andrewski> paulproteus|lap1: yeah, that too. :-P
[05:57] <spiritz> andrewski: I am looking for that : http://static.flickr.com/21/97621299_cc88112bfb.jpg; it should not be complicated to enable
[05:57] <WoC> ty paulproteus
[05:57] <zipher> help.. having problems with parallel port printer - okipage 10e with CompaqDeskpro - any suggestions? .. queues okay but then goes "port busy" .. can't seem to fix it.. printed okay under Windows... partially under Fedora.. now always "Busy"..
[05:57] <gnomefreak> WoC: you better off using dpkg -i instead of forcing it
[05:58] <andrewski> spiritz: i can't load that screenie.  but "should not be complicated" goes right out the window when compiz enters the picture.
[05:58] <WoC> gnomefreak, seems like the signature checking got broken, trying to fix that
[05:58] <WoC> (in my installation, that is)
[05:59] <spiritz> andrewski: compiz is actually pretty simple; have u tried it lately?