[12:24] <penguin42> changing *to* bash shouldn't be a problem - check it is shown as /bin/bash in the passwd file
[12:24] <ghostdog> do I need to hard link a lib file?
[12:25] <blackest> hmm on the remote system ?
[12:25] <penguin42> nod
[12:25] <penguin42> you changed the shell on the remote system I assume?
[12:25] <blackest> yes i had a script that failed with dash changing to bash let it work
[12:26] <penguin42> ok, so the thing I'd check is that whatever your shell shows as in the password file is in /etc/shells
[12:28] <blackest> it lists a few /bin/dash and /bin/bash are amongst them
[12:29] <penguin42> ok, so if /bin/bash is there then I don't think the change of shells is an issue, unless you have a very weird sshd setup
[12:29] <klam> need these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or aim: solutions1981
[12:29] <penguin42> please no ads
[12:30] <blackest> how about i clear the passwords file on the local machine do it as if it was the first time again
[12:30] <penguin42> blackest: Well I wouldn't do anything too heavy to the password file - do you have any weird characters in your password?
[12:31] <blackest> no
[12:31] <penguin42> try an ssh -v   or see if there is anything in the auth logs on the remote machine
[12:32] <penguin42> blackest: How did you change your shell - using chsh?
[12:34] <rickcr> ok this is driving me nuts, been googling and not having much luck. I installed ubuntu feisty here at work. We have a ton of printers on the windows network. I want to connect to one that on windows is located on the network as //nmrflsip2\PRN0352 ... I can ping nmrflisp and get the ip. When i try to go to new printer and windows network, i'm getting a prompt every couple of seconds for a username/password for something it's finding on the ne
[12:34] <rickcr> twork
[12:35] <rickcr> is there something i can do to just say "go to this printer directly"
[12:35] <blackest> sudo rm /bin/sh sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[12:37] <blackest> penguin42 I don't know how or where auth logs are
[12:38] <penguin42>  /var/log
[12:41] <blackest> hmm it says shell bash does not exist
[12:42] <penguin42> are you sure your passwd file says /bin/bash
[12:43] <penguin42> blackest: What does    finger   bah    where bah is your username say the shell is ?
[12:44] <blackest> right well on the local pc its bin/bash but remotely it says bash
[12:45] <h-bomb> so hows feisty beta working out for yall
[12:45] <skarface> well static ip appears to have just broken on my other machine
[12:45] <skarface> the system won't boot unless I get rid of /etc/network/interfaces
[12:47] <ukubuntu> Hi all. here's another MS Lawsuit Microsoft sued over Vista specs http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2187159/microsoft-sued-vista-specs
[12:48] <blackest> penguin42 how do i fix it to be /bin/bash instead of bash? i assume that is the issue
[12:48] <penguin42> blackest: How did you change the shell last time?
[12:49] <chijin> i don't understand where the damage comes in, the law suit is asking for millions
[12:50] <chijin> so i can't run vista.. argh my system is damaged!
[12:50] <blackest> sudo rm /bin/sh sudo ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[12:50] <penguin42> blackest: Yeesh - you shouldn't do that
[12:50] <penguin42> blackest: But also, I think you did something else as well - maybe edited /etc/passwd or used chsh ?
[12:52] <blackest> sudo chsh -s bash john
[12:52] <blackest> got to love the terminal history
[12:53] <blackest> should it be sudo chsh -s /bin/bash john
[12:54] <penguin42> yes
[12:55] <blackest> bingo ssh works again :) thank you
[12:56] <blackest> how about the yeesh bit thats where i think i just gave bash an alias ?
[12:57] <penguin42> I don't think changing the symlink on /bin/sh is pretty
[12:57] <penguin42> although I'm not really sure how dash does it - I think it's an override
[12:58] <vittico> hi guys!
[12:59] <vittico> OpenOffice 2.2 seems to crash when signing documents
[12:59] <blackest> so if any script expects dash they will get bash instead so may not work
[12:59] <vittico> any idea of what could go wrong?
[01:02] <penguin42> blackest: It's the type of thing you can be sure that some upgrade at some point will flip back
[01:06] <blackest> i dont think i like dash bash seems easier
[01:07] <somian> So long all, I think I'm out of here for good.
[01:08] <lix> Hi. I used to do tunneling with vpnc in dapper drake. In feisty fawn there is networkmanager-vpnc and networkmanager-openvpn. What should I use that works better? any suggestions?
[01:09] <penguin42> lix: I think vpnc is specifically for connecting to stuff at the other end is a Cisco
[01:09] <moonwatcher> hello
[01:09] <moonwatcher> i have a "linux" question
[01:09] <moonwatcher> i think an easy one
[01:10] <moonwatcher> if i start a process via ssh
[01:10] <moonwatcher> can i have it running running after i close the ssh console?
[01:10] <moonwatcher> like initiazting an ftp download
[01:10] <lix> penguin42: Yes. The node I am using is a cisco vpn. But shouldn't networkmanager-openvpn work as well?
[01:10] <penguin42> moonwatcher: Yes - look at 'nohup' and also 'screen'
[01:10] <penguin42> lix: Only if the Cisco can do openvpn protocols
[01:11] <penguin42> which I doubt
[01:11] <lix> networkmanager-vpnc & networkmanager-openvpn are both GPL. but openvpn seems to be documentated better
[01:12] <penguin42> lix: Openvpn does it's own protocol - it's great if you are setting up your own VPN, but I don't think it's designed to talk to existing ones
[01:12] <lix> penguin42: I see. So I should maybe try both and publish the results on my blog as a "personal experience" :)
[01:12] <penguin42> lix: Well yes you could - but if the Cisco is at the other end I think you need to use a cisco compatible client
[01:12] <lix> penguin42: So openvpnc would work with openswan etc. and such stuff?
[01:13] <lix> penguin42: K. cool thanks
[01:13] <penguin42> lix: I don't know, I've not used it
[01:13] <penguin42> sorry....
[01:13] <penguin42> openvpn works with openvpn at the other end - not openswan
[01:13] <lix> penguin42: np. thanks for your help
[01:16] <blackest> penguin42 thankyou for your help
[01:17] <penguin42> blackest: No problem
[01:23] <lix> penguin42: network-manager-vpnc just worked right now. but you're right: I just read in the openvpn mailing list that openvpn it won't work with cisco. Thanks again :) (BTW: Feisty rulez!)
[01:26] <downfallat111> what are the major improvements for feisty?
[01:28] <SuperTeece> it's quiet... to quiet
[01:31] <slackern> quiet is good, maybe not so many having problems then :)
[01:31] <SuperTeece> true true
[01:32] <SuperTeece> or going into frustration spasms
[01:32] <slackern> Just sitting here pondering if i should wait with switching my friends father in law 6.10 install to a 7.04 tomorrow
[01:33] <SuperTeece> unless he is having issues with edgy that feisty would fix, I would wait until gold
[01:33] <slackern> Installed it 3 weeks ago since he's one of those that always get viruses/spyware and all he uses his computer for is just a few IM messages and browsing auctionsites
[01:34] <raptor2552> hplip app not starting in feisty; anyone
[01:34] <slackern> 7.04 feels a little faster on my machine and his computer is an old p3 500mhz with 512mb ram, thinking of giving him xfce instead but that might be to tricky for him
[01:34] <SuperTeece> I'm in the process of converting my wife, no easy task, 3 years in the making
[01:34] <SuperTeece> hplip ehh? let me do a quick look around
[01:35] <slackern> Problem with his computer was the motherboard from start so i installed ubuntu just to try to pinpoint the problem and now when it's replaced he wanted to stay with ubuntu instead of winxp
[01:36] <SuperTeece> good for him!!
[01:37] <po9> hello, how you make feisty mount drives on boot at a specific location.
[01:37] <po9> the /etc/fstab is confusing, and I assume that their is a gui or something
[01:37] <SuperTeece> I'm trying to use the price of vista as a selling point for linux to my wife
[01:37] <slackern> aye i hope he will stick with it, tired of fixing his computer every week
[01:37] <SuperTeece> raptor, I am not using hplip so I'm not sure about your issue, sorry
[01:38] <slackern> only thing he lacks is a banking application that only seems to run in windows, but there are 2 other winxp machines there that he can use for it
[01:38] <SuperTeece> po9 I should be able to help with that
[01:38] <raptor2552> is there another way to share printers
[01:38] <SuperTeece> what kind of device is it?
[01:38] <po9> sata device
[01:38] <raptor2552> hp 7110
[01:38] <SuperTeece> raptor, that is something I was planning on doing this weekend with my windows box, sorry I have't done the research yet
[01:39] <aoirthoir> sup
[01:39] <Parisi> hello
[01:39] <raptor2552> well this is beta not a big deal thanx
[01:39] <po9> superteece: I have tried right  click on the device and changing the mount point, but it complained about having a / in its name
[01:40] <SuperTeece> po9 what mount point were you trying to use?
[01:40] <po9> /home/user/big
[01:40] <raptor2552> hplip service is running but the app wont start
[01:41] <Parisi> Hello.
[01:41] <SuperTeece> do you have a /dev/sda# entry in fstab?
[01:41] <Parisi> Took me awhile to get wireless properly working on Feisty, but here i am.
[01:41] <po9> yes I do, but for other drives
[01:41] <SuperTeece> what filesystem is on the sata?
[01:41] <po9> ext3
[01:42] <SuperTeece> ok so this should work:
[01:43] <SuperTeece> /dev/sda#                 /home/user/big                   ext3               user,auto            0          0
[01:43] <SuperTeece> use tabs to space it out
[01:43] <po9> why not a UUID?
[01:44] <SuperTeece> and the /home/user/big directory is created right?
[01:44] <po9> here is what one of the lines in the fstab looks like UUID=924b0e1a-e06a-4617-ad0b-104e9a8b9177 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:44] <po9> I assumed that it would have the UUID format and not the /dev/sd%%
[01:44] <SuperTeece> I've never manually typed in a UUID
[01:44] <SuperTeece> though I've never had to manually mount a sata either
[01:45] <SuperTeece> that's a little more advanced than my little world, lol
[01:45] <po9> what is the difference, and why the move to a UUID?
[01:45] <bur[n] er> anyone know if gparted is going to be on the Feisty LiveCD?
[01:45] <SuperTeece> honestly I don't know
[01:46] <po9> I assume that HAL and DBUS use UUID
[01:46] <SuperTeece> possibly
[01:46] <michaelfavia> any word on a solution to get proper nvidia 96xx support back?
[01:46] <michaelfavia> the pkg is long since purged from my repo
[01:46] <michaelfavia> cache
[01:46] <michaelfavia> so im stuck in nv land..
[01:46] <SuperTeece> its a magical plac
[01:46] <SuperTeece> e
[01:47] <SuperTeece> dinners ready I'm off, good luck po9
[01:48] <po9> thanks for the help
[01:48] <michaelfavia> does anyoe have the old nvidia-glx package they could email it to me?
[01:52] <macogw> is anyone else's boot hanging at "configuring network interfaces" since this morning's update?
[01:52] <cliebow> Parisi, prism card?
[01:54] <DanaG> That's odd...
[01:55] <Parisi> cliebow, Netgear wg311t, Atheros chipset
[01:55] <DanaG> Firefox stopped responding for a while, so Beryl greyed it, yet now that it is responding again, it's still grey.
[02:07] <misfit_toy> cliebow, don't tell me prism is going to be broken as I am updating right now!
[02:13] <cliebow> misfit_toy, errr  priism is broken..i blacklisted hostap and  used  orinioco_pci..it is dicey..
[02:14] <cliebow> there is an ubuntu piece where someon e modprobe -r prism2-pci modprobe -r hostap modprobe -r orinioco modprobe orinoco..i had it working until reboot
[02:14] <macogw> i should be able to run xfce applications in gnome, right?
[02:15] <macogw> cliebow: that's what i have to do with my sky2 driver for my wired connection
[02:15] <macogw> i think i'm one of the few people to never have a problem with wireless on linux, but have a terrible wired connection
[02:15] <cliebow> yecch
[02:16] <macogw> usually people complain they have no wireless and dont want to sit there wired
[02:16] <Parisi> Well, i have none.
[02:16] <Parisi> : )
[02:16] <misfit_toy> cliebow, is it only going to break on reboot or as soon as this update finishes?
[02:16] <cliebow> i can whine about broadcom if you like
[02:16] <Parisi> At least not 100%
[02:17] <cliebow> not too sure..but i think it may be broken
[02:17] <Parisi> I think i am going to stick with Vista for a little while, 7.04 is a little too unstable.
[02:17] <macogw> cliebow: i set up broadcom wifi on my mom's desktop without much problem at all.  once i stopped using ndiswrapper's gui at least.  there's a script on a howto on the forums with really easy instructions
[02:17] <macogw> Parisi: now that's weird
[02:17] <macogw> you can run vista?
[02:18] <Parisi> macd, Well, i cant complain much, its still on beta stages.
[02:18] <macogw> without it going "zomg!!!!!"
[02:18] <cliebow> macogw, that on a macintosh? wireless?
[02:18] <macogw> cliebow: no i'm on a gateway
[02:18] <macogw> i dont like macs.  mice need have 2 (or more!) buttons!!!
[02:18] <Parisi> and 6.10 is even worse, it wont even detect my sound or network card properly.
[02:18] <macogw> wow
[02:19] <cliebow> broadcom on an ibook seems dicey..with fwcutter it will work for a it then die\
[02:19] <Parisi> macd, You can use any PC USB mouse.
[02:19] <cliebow> Parisi..is that some Martian brand?
[02:19] <macogw> yeah but that's a bit ungainly sitting with a laptop in a lecture hall
[02:19] <Parisi> macd, Thats true, i still like OSX tho.
[02:19] <macogw> cliebow: oh wait the broadcom's on a desktop my brother built...my laptop with the no-work-needed wireless is a gateway
[02:19] <Parisi> Just not apple hardware.
[02:19] <cliebow> maco:f12 is actually pretty sweet
[02:20] <macogw> oh i dont like osx cuz i can't find anything and you end up with the menus for one app over a different one and if you're working in a window in the bottom right you have to go all the way to the top left to get to a menu....i like my menus attached
[02:20] <cliebow> if i hadnt had thrust up my rearend id be happier with macintosh
[02:21] <macogw> cliebow: f12?
[02:21] <cliebow> the hardware is very rugged
[02:21] <cliebow> f12 gives you a right click
[02:21] <macogw> ooo so does ctrl click and click and hold for 5 seconds or so
[02:21] <cliebow> double click is not so easy 9!)
[02:22] <cliebow> i do use a usb mouse sometimes
[02:22] <macogw> never knew f12 though....didnt use shortcut keys back when i used apple ] ['s and what i assume was os 9
[02:22] <macogw> not on the same computers...
[02:22] <johnnybuoy> f11 also works...
[02:22] <cliebow> works well fgor certain stuff
[02:22] <cliebow> f11..ohh?
[02:22] <johnnybuoy> middle click?
[02:23] <cliebow> wow ..learn something every day
[02:23] <macogw> the science center has always had macs, so my little internet addicted self needed to learn to find safari and to click and hold on os-something-newer-than-apple-] [-but-older-than-osx
[02:24] <johnnybuoy> this on-button mouse is somewhat retarded, I think
[02:24] <johnnybuoy> one
[02:24] <cliebow> i seem to be the defacto ppc maintainer for ltsp
[02:24] <macogw> i would really like a mouseless computer
[02:24] <macogw> but i think thatd be all terminal :p
[02:24] <johnnybuoy> heh
[02:25] <cliebow> a little headset wher you could wiggle your ears instead of a mouse
[02:25] <macogw> i always thought the black/green screens the people my dad worked with to input ticket orders where you had to give it different commands at hte bottom and the top would change were really really neat
[02:25] <macogw> cliebow: like the wiihelm?
[02:25] <cliebow> ? dont know it
[02:25] <macogw> cliebow: it was thinkgeek's april fools joke
[02:25] <macogw> one of them at least
[02:26] <cliebow> Cool
[02:26] <macogw> you put a wiimote in the top and then instead of moving your arm left, just shake your head left
[02:26] <macogw> cliebow: did you type /me cliebow googles?
[02:26] <cliebow> i think so
[02:27] <macogw> hahaha
[02:27] <cliebow> always an adventure when i type
[02:27] <macogw> hey i'm trying to use orage.  its a calendar for xfce but it won't run.  i'm using gnome, but that shouldn't create issues, right?
[02:28] <macogw> ok it *runs* but it never pops up...just fails
[02:29] <vikingr> hey.. i use feisty and after todays update (just some minutes ago), my external hd cannot be mounted anymore. the hd is encrypted with cryptsetup/luks. when i try to mount it manually, i get the message "unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'" - the modules aes, sha256, dm_mod and dm_crypt are loaded
[02:33] <johnnybuoy> you encrypt your fs but you don't even use tor to connect to irc?
[02:33] <johnnybuoy> ;)
[02:34] <vikingr> right :P
[02:35] <taggie> Does anybody know if NetworkManager will be upgraded to .7 at some point in feisty? It looks like I need .7 in order to configure LEAP settings.
[02:35] <taggie> Or, I'll rephrase and ask if anybody knows where to read up on connecting to leap networks with feisty.
[02:39] <nerdygirl_ellie> Good Evening all
[02:40] <nerdygirl_ellie> I am running the 7.04 Beta.  Today's updates are causing something? to crash when I try to login and it kicks me back to the login screen.  I apt-get remove'd compiz, since I saw it had a lot of updates today, but still no joy.
[02:40] <nerdygirl_ellie> I would appreciate any help.
[02:43] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi!
[02:44] <funkychunk> hello my problem with ubuntu my friends is that i cannot play videos more than one at a time, so if i play beryl and a video the video doesnt work and if i try to load up two videos they dont work i dont know what is wrong please send help
[02:45] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi.  are you on the 7.04 beta?
[02:45] <dogmatism> funkychunk,  does that only happen when beryl is enabled?
[02:46] <funkychunk> yes i believe so
[02:46] <funkychunk> when i load beryl then play a video the screen is black, bu tsound works
[02:46] <funkychunk> i tried loading up several video players but its all the same
[02:46] <Skrot-> Hi, does the Restricted Driver-thingy manage nVidia-cards as well as wifi?
[02:48] <nerdygirl_ellie> Follow up question to Skrot's question.  I've been using the NVIDIA drivers from NVIDIA.  Aside from easier updates, any advantage to switching to the restricted drivers package?
[02:51] <ShackJack> nerdygirl_ellie - just that they're auto-updated :) Mine work great on my 7800GS
[02:51] <macogw> funkychunk: when i use beryl and try to play a video the video is solid blue
[02:51] <macogw> you have to turn off beryl
[02:52] <funkychunk> :(
[02:53] <UbuntuNewbie> Hello
[02:54] <UbuntuNewbie> Anybody having problems with the Feisty installer changing the keyboard to kb105 mid-install?
[02:56] <PyroMessiah> Hi, where can I find the art manager in feisty?
[02:57] <ShackJack> macogw - isn't there some video overlay option in xorg - "VideoOverlay" "on" that might help with that?
[02:57] <ShackJack> PyroMessia - art manager?
[02:57] <PyroMessiah> Well I'm trying to change the splash screen and the directions I have say to use the "art manager"
[02:59] <ShackJack> By splash screen do you mean the login screen or the ubuntu logo that shows while it's booting up?
[03:00] <PyroMessiah> the little screen that shows up after you log in
[03:00] <dogmatism> PyroMessiah, I think you have to install the gnome-art package to get that
[03:00] <PyroMessiah> I can find that in synaptic?
[03:01] <dogmatism> Yes
[03:01] <PyroMessiah> Thank you very much for your help
[03:01] <dogmatism> You're welcome
[03:02] <ShackJack> dogmatism - I think that used to be in Dapper by default - I remember having to turn if off :)
[03:03] <dogmatism> Yeah, I think it was too.
[03:05] <UbuntuNewbie> I think I may be running up against bug #40627, where kbd-chooser in the installer is changing my keyboard from kb104 to kb105, which bricks my keyboard.  Anybody seen this?
[03:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 40627 in ubiquity "wrong keyboard layout after install" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/40627
[03:05] <macogw> ShackJack: composite overlay window?
[03:05] <macogw> ShackJack: composite overlay window?
[03:06] <ShackJack> macogw - eh?
[03:06] <ShackJack> macogw - what card you using ATI or nvidia
[03:06] <zak> KDE's configuration of gtk themes seems to be borked in feisty... well i'm getting the standard square win95-ish theme... i installed some other engines/themes, but i can't set them - what's the best way around this? [i think i can edit some config files and set the theme right?]
[03:06] <macogw> ShackJack: intel
[03:07] <UbuntuNewbie> The grind is that this is happening during install.  The keyboard is working fine right now (Live CD), but when I hit the keyboard selection screen in the wizard, I'm dead.  The fix is to drop back to terminal and fix the keyboard setting in xorg.conf back to kb104
[03:07] <UbuntuNewbie> But with the installer bricking my keyboard, I can't complete the install.
[03:09] <ShackJack> Dunno if intel has same option but in xorg (fglrx)-          Option "VideoOverlay" "on" under Device
[03:09] <ShackJack> macogw ^^
[03:10] <UbuntuNewbie> If I save a good copy of my xorg.conf file just prior to starting the install, can I swap xorg.conf files after the keyboard select screen?  Will x-server even know I altered my xorg.conf post initialization?
[03:12] <macogw> ShackJack: well i did what the beryl wiki says, though you may want to add that to fglrx part of the wiki and i'll see if it works with intel/aiglx
[03:13] <macogw> does anyone in here have Sunbird installed?
[03:13] <ShackJack> macogw - the fglrx driver sucks with Beryl :)
[03:13] <ShackJack> I switched to compiz for the time being :)
[03:13] <macogw> i couldnt get compiz working right
[03:14] <macogw> amaranth finally showed me that gconf had wrong stuff in it
[03:14] <macogw> s/he blamed me for changing it, but i'd never touched gconf until s/he told me what to put in there to fix it
[03:14] <macogw> the cube still doesn't work though
[03:14] <Amaranth> he
[03:14] <Amaranth> and the cube should work with the latest desktop-effects package
[03:14] <Amaranth> but if you tried to enable it before it might have broken
[03:15] <macogw> well i'll try the cube again now that there've been lots of updates going through
[03:15] <sayers> Good work with Feisty, works good :)
[03:15] <macogw> though i think gconf is still wrong for cube because after you left someone else told me what to add for the cube except it wouldnt "stick" which means it was out of order according to him, only we couldnt figure out the right order
[03:16] <nerdygirl_ellie> Hi.  Sorry to ask a repeat question, I got dropped.  I have been on 7.04 happily for a week.  I applied today's updates around noon and now I get kicked back to the gui login screen as soon as I log in.  I cannot start a gnome or gnome-failsafe session.  Where should I look?
[03:16] <LEMONed> can anyone help me? one of my ext3 drives randomly removed my permissions when i try and transfer stuff to it, when i first load up i can create/delete folders on it, but then i xfer stuff and after a few files it no longer lets me
[03:17] <dogmatism>  nerdygirl_ellie  maybe ~/.xsession-errors
[03:17] <macogw> nerdygirl_ellie: is your hard drive full?
[03:17] <macogw> when a partition fills, you get kicked at login
[03:18] <ghostdog> I cannot get nvidia legacy drivers have direct rendering enabled
[03:18] <duslow> i'm having a strange issue with 7.04 and keyboard mappings
[03:18] <nerdygirl_ellie> nope.  a couple of hundred gigs free. :)  Lemme see about that error log.
[03:18] <ghostdog> both the client vendor and server do not match
[03:19] <nerdygirl_ellie> macogw:  BRB, I emptied the file and am going to reproduce the error.
[03:21] <ghostdog> here is my glxinfo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13963/
[03:22] <ghostdog> client glx version is SGI, is that normal?
[03:22] <RAOF> Depends on what your card is.
[03:23] <ghostdog> it is an old school Riva TNT2
[03:23] <ghostdog> that worked with the previous ubuntu 6.10
[03:23] <nerdygirl_ellie> Back
[03:23] <ghostdog> was the support dropped for this and other cards?
[03:24] <LEMONed> can anyone help me? one of my ext3 drives randomly removed my permissions when i try and transfer stuff to it, when i first load up i can create/delete folders on it, but then i xfer stuff and after a few files it no longer lets me
[03:24] <RAOF> ghostdog: Should still be supported by the nvidia-legacy package.
[03:24] <LEMONed> i have to unmount/remount it every time i wanna xfer like 5 files
[03:24] <duslow> anyone using nomachine with 7.04?
[03:25] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ah-ha!  modinfo: could not find module fglrx  modinfo: could not find module nvidia_legacy.  I think I can figure it out from here. Thanks for the help.
[03:25] <ghostdog> RAOF, what libraries are used for client GLX?
[03:25] <ghostdog> may I just need to link them
[03:25] <LEMONed> anyone know?
[03:26] <orkid> is it possible to boot eh iso from the hD? (ie. take out the vmlinuz and initrd.img and boot from an existing grub?)
[03:26] <orkid> or is it best for me just to get a netboot kernel/initrd and use that?
[03:26] <RAOF> ghostdog: No, you shouldn't need to do anything manually.  Why not pastebin the full output of glxinfo, and I can tell whether it's right or not :)
[03:26] <ghostdog> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13963
[03:27] <LEMONed> anyone able to help me?
[03:27] <macogw> LEMONed: sounds like a bug.  check malone and see if it's been reported
[03:27] <LEMONed> whats malone?\
[03:28] <mon^rch> upon re-installing feisty my nvidia drivers are responding VERY slowly (they still work though) any fix?
[03:28] <RAOF> ghostdog: Ding! That glxinfo is (almost) totally fine.  I'm not sure why you don't have direct rendering, but the nvidia drivers are working right.
[03:28] <ghostdog> yup
[03:28] <ghostdog> RAOF, but shouldn' the client be "NVIDIA"?
[03:29] <RAOF> ghostdog: No, the server should be nvidia.  Because the server's where your graphics drivers are :)
[03:29] <orkid> can anyone help me?
[03:29] <macogw> !bug | LEMONed
[03:29] <ubotu> LEMONed: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:29] <mon^rch> upon re-installing feisty my nvidia drivers are responding VERY slowly (they still work though) any fix?
[03:29] <ghostdog> RAOF, buggy drivers?
[03:30] <macogw> LEMONed: malone is the bugtracker (think Bugsy Malone) in launchpad
[03:30] <RAOF> ghostdog: Entirely possible, but /var/log/Xorg.0.log would probably have the reason.
[03:30] <LEMONed> i see
[03:31] <mon^rch> why is my nvidia choppy and slow?
[03:31] <ghostdog> RAOF, everything seems fine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13966
[03:32] <Toma-> witty retort
[03:34] <RAOF> ghostdog: Quite true, nothing seems too amiss there.  Maybe you need to add the "dri" module to get direct rendering?  I'm not sure though.
[03:34] <ghostdog> you know, that could very well be it
[03:34] <macogw> if you're using AIGLX, you have to add dri
[03:35] <ToHellWithGA> macogw: with what kind of card?
[03:35] <ToHellWithGA> iirc the dri xorg module is default in feisty
[03:36] <RAOF> Yeah, but his Xorg.0.log indicates that it's not being loaded.
[03:36] <macogw> according to beryl's wiki, if you're using aiglx, you need to have dri dbe and glx
[03:36] <orkid> i guess not
[03:36] <orkid> oh well
[03:37] <ToHellWithGA> did he sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?
[03:43] <PWill> Holy cow. What happened to openoffice?
[03:44] <Toma-> it esploded!
[03:44] <PWill> open up writer
[03:44] <mon^rch> RAOF: could you help me with the compiz desktop cube thingy again? i re-setup feisty
[03:44] <RAOF> Your head asplode!
[03:44] <PWill> do the icons look like crap?
[03:45] <Mrsayers> mon^rch: use beryl it's easier to set up
[03:45] <RAOF> mon^rch: I think the new desktop-effects applet should be installed no, if you've updated recently
[03:45] <RAOF> mon^rch: Just hit the "cube" button there :)
[03:45] <Toma-> is it using tango or something?
[03:45] <RAOF> Mrsayers: Lies :)
[03:45] <mon^rch> RAOF: but there's no animation...
[03:46] <RAOF> You will need to be more specific :)
[03:46] <RAOF> *What* animation? :)
[03:47] <PWill> Can someone open up OpenOffice?
[03:47] <mon^rch> raof: I have 4 workspaces, when I swithch any of them there is no desktop cube animation... before to told me gconf editor and chance some vale of 4 to 1... but I dont know which one
[03:47] <PWill> The icons look awful here. They're not the pretty tang ones anymore
[03:48] <RAOF> mon^rch: Hm.  Oh, well.  Maybe you don't have the new d-e applet yet.  Anyway, the two gconf keys are /apps/compiz/general/screen0/{hsize=4, number_of_desktops=1}
[03:48] <mon^rch> tyvm
[03:49] <Draconicus> Whoa, whoa, whoa...
[03:49] <Draconicus> Did my CD-ROM eject button just unmount and eject the CD?!
[03:50] <RAOF> Probably.  Although it's done that since Edgy at lesast.
[03:50] <shawnr> wow i think im gonna get this new monitor from new egg
[03:50] <NickGarvey> Draconicus, ahah I was like that when I hit the mute button on my laptop and it WORKED
[03:50] <mon^rch> um, my panels just dissappeared
[03:51] <shawnr> 22in ws, 1680x1050
[03:51] <Draconicus> NickGarvey: Hehe..
[03:51] <shawnr> oooh i want it lol ;p
[03:51] <Draconicus> That's been like that since Dapper, though..
[03:51] <PWill> Can someone please open openoffice?
[03:51] <PWill> Are your icons the tango ones? Or do they look ugly?
[03:52] <shawnr> tango
[03:52] <PWill> ugh
[03:52] <PWill> i have no clue what happened to mine then
[03:52] <PWill> shawnr: have you updated today?
[03:53] <shawnr> yea this morning
[03:53] <shawnr> when did you update last?
[03:54] <PWill> today
[03:54] <PWill> this afternoon
[03:54] <PWill> argh
[03:54] <shawnr> how do i check my ip again?
[03:54] <shawnr> never mind
[03:54] <PWill> shawnr: http://www.whatismyip.org
[03:55] <shawnr> i rememberd
[03:55] <shawnr> nah, mean off the router
[03:55] <PWill> or are you looking for your local IP
[03:55] <PWill> ah
[03:55] <shawnr> ifconfig
[03:55] <shawnr> i got it ;p
[03:55] <PWill> yep
[03:56] <PWill> shawnr: I fixed the icons. They were set to a different icon set in Tools > Options > Views
[03:56] <shawnr> nice
[03:56] <PWill> I don't know how though...
[03:56] <shawnr> are you getting my image
[03:56] <shawnr> ?
[03:56] <shawnr> trying to get my router to allow me to send file in irc
[03:56] <PWill> ah
[03:57] <shawnr> are you getting anything?
[03:57] <PWill> i don't see anything coming through
[03:57] <shawnr> shoot
[03:57] <shawnr> i usually just set DMZ host on and i can get it
[03:57] <PWill> i have autoaccept on
[03:58] <PWill> put it on imageshack or something if you want me to see it i guess
[03:58] <PWill> although that is not a fix
[04:03] <mon^rch> RAOF: fixed the desktops applet, thanks. but now my drivers are laggy again. stopping and starting the desktop effects fixed performance before... but not now. any ideas?
[04:05] <RAOF> Not really, sorry.
[04:14] <mon^rch> ok, nice smooth animation for the desktop effects, but the desktop switcher doesn't animate (rotate) while switching ... again and I checked the settings are right :(
[04:15] <mon^rch> boo
[04:15] <mon^rch> nvm, hacked it
[04:15] <mon^rch> yay me
[04:16] <mon^rch> RAOF: thanks againg for your input :)
[04:17] <mon^rch> I'll shut-up now
[04:28] <nerdygirl_ellie> Thanks to all who helped!  All my windows are jiggly again! :)
[04:29] <catid> hurray for jiggling !
[04:30] <dogmatism> congrats =)
[04:30] <catid> does anyone know of a program to help monitor ebay auctions up to the last few minutes perhaps to give an edge?
[04:30] <catid> my ebay-fu is not best =(
[04:31] <dogmatism> jaybidwatcher maybe
[04:31] <dogmatism> *jbidwatcher, sorry
[04:32] <catid> that does seem like the kind of thing i'm looking for
[04:32] <MarkFeathers> How well does Feisty handle MythTV right now?
[04:33] <macogw> catid: set your max bid instead of bidding every 30 seconds at the end
[04:33] <macogw> it'll only increment by 50 cents over hte highest bid
[04:33] <macogw> it doesnt just jump to that number
[04:34] <catid> macogw: i'm aware..  but if i set a high bid someone might just beat it
[04:34] <catid> macogw: i want to set a middle-ish bid, let them one-up it and then hit a high bid in the last few seconds
[04:36] <macogw> oh...
[04:41] <MarkFeathers> Has anyone in here used mythtv with feisty?
[04:51] <robert_> nerdygirl_ellie: jiggly..?
[04:51] <NickGarvey> puff
[04:52] <Arko> Amarok is using almost 100% of CPU. How do I reduce that cpu usage?
[04:52] <NickGarvey> Arko, playing a CD?
[04:52] <Arko> NickGarvey: nope. Mp3s.
[04:52] <NickGarvey> Arko, is it indexing your music files?
[04:53] <Arko> nick: dunno. How to check it?
[04:55] <NickGarvey> Arko, mm.. don't use amarok, don't know details of the program..
[04:55] <NickGarvey> command line mplayer for me ;)
[04:55] <Arko> he
[04:56] <mon^rch> I guess feisty is a lit-tle more finnicky than I had first anticipated :/
[04:56] <dogmatism> Arko: at the bottom left you'll see a progress bar if it is indexing
[04:56] <catid> it's only a bug if that indexing thread is not low prio
[04:57] <Arko> nope... it is not indexing... at least, not right now
[04:58] <dogmatism> how big is your collection?
[04:58] <dogmatism> maybe it'll take up less cpu by switching to a different database if your collection if really large.
[04:58] <Arko> dogmatism: I have just seen it. It appears when I change song
[04:59] <Arko> dogmatism: it is about three thousand songs
[04:59] <RAOF> Arko: Just for a few seconds?  Or continually, after changing songs?
[05:00] <Arko> RAOF: it appears when change songs
[05:00] <RAOF> Yes, but for how long after changing a song is there 100% cpu usage?
[05:00] <Arko> RAOF: and it slows the mouse when changing songs
[05:01] <Arko> RAOF: few seconds after changing songs
[05:01] <RAOF> Arko: That sounds totally normal.
[05:01] <dogmatism> For what its worth. I have a bout 1,000 songs and it would lag when changing songs using sqlite. I now use postgresql and it doesn't lag as much.
[05:02] <RAOF> It *might* just be decoding the whole song into memory.  Or maybe it's doing some funky database stuff on song change.
[05:02] <Arko> hmmm
[05:02] <Arko> that is not funny or normal. It is annoying
[05:05] <Linoleum> hi guys . I try to update my feisty , and I ve got this error : Setting up libdevmapper1.02 (1.02.08-1ubuntu9) ...
[05:05] <Linoleum> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/mapper': File exists
[05:05] <Linoleum> dpkg: error processing libdevmapper1.02 (--configure):
[05:05] <Linoleum>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:06] <MarkFeathers> Has anyone in here used mythtv with feisty?
[05:06] <slackern> I just installed amarok also and adding my tunes now
[05:06] <nerdygirl_ellie> Crack attack is too addictive.  I should file a bug.
[05:06] <dogmatism> Lol
[05:06] <nerdygirl_ellie> Ditto Frozen bubble.
[05:07] <dogmatism> I'll confirm it =P
[05:09] <Arko> Postgresql reported the following error:
[05:09] <Arko> fe_sendauth: no password supplied
[05:09] <Arko> errr
[05:09] <dogmatism> Did you create the database and the user for it yet?
[05:10] <Arko> nope
[05:10] <Arko> it is too much for me
[05:10] <dogmatism> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Postgresql_HowTo if you are interested
[05:10] <Arko> gonna put my user and pass to check
[05:11] <Arko> Postgresql reported the following error:
[05:11] <Arko> FATAL: password authentication failed for user "arko"
[05:11] <Arko> errrrr
[05:11] <dogmatism> it has to be setup through postgresql, check out the howto
[05:12] <MarkFeathers> Has anyone in here used mythtv with feisty?
[05:12] <Arko> okay. Checking
[05:13] <dogmatism> Arko: instead of su - postgres in the howto. sudo su - postgres will probably work better.
[05:13] <Arko> dogmatism: okay
[05:14] <shawnr> uuuuuuugh c'mon with this new legacy crap lol ;p
[05:17] <Arko> dogmatism: it says to 'createdb amarokcollection' and 'createdb -O dude amarokcollection"... Now I got a error
[05:17] <Arko> createdb: database creation failed: ERROR:  database "amarokcollection" already exists
[05:17] <dogmatism> the createdb -O was correctiong the createdb one. you weren't suppose to run both of those commands.
[05:18] <dogmatism> its easy to fix though. just run dropdb amarokcollection
[05:18] <dogmatism> then just use the createdb -O command
[05:18] <Arko> okay
[05:19] <Arko> done
[05:20] <dogmatism> did you set up the user and password too?
[05:20] <Arko> yep
[05:20] <Arko> it worked
[05:21] <Arko> but I clicked to build the collection and nothing happens
[05:21] <dogmatism> you might have to restart amarok.
[05:22] <Arko> Please be patient while Amarok scans your music collection. You can watch the progress of this activity in the statusbar.
[05:22] <Arko> heheh
[05:22] <Arko> 12%
[05:22] <dogmatism> hope it works lol
[05:22] <Arko> 35%
[05:23] <Arko> done
[05:23] <Arko> lets test
[05:24] <Arko> it worked!
[05:25] <Arko> maximum 30.3%
[05:25] <dogmatism> woot =) congrats
[05:25] <Arko> thanx people!
[05:25] <dogmatism> you're welcome
[05:27] <NickGarvey> Arko, hehe told you it was indexing
[05:27] <Arko> NickGarvey: as you said
[05:27] <Arko> thank you
[05:27] <dogmatism> sqlite can only handle so much =( hehe
[05:27] <NickGarvey> hah I didn't help you at all ;)
[05:45] <coz_> guys tring to install an application onto feisty, however it says that it cannot find a Tk interpreter with Tx on the system txwish. I know that wish is here but I amlost after that ...anysuggestions?
[05:45] <RAOF> coz_: Sounds like you're trying to install something not from the repositories, is that right?
[05:46] <coz_> RAOF, yep
[05:46] <RAOF> coz_: That way lies madness.  What program is it?  Are you *sure* it's not in the repos?
[05:46] <coz_> RAOF, apparently from googleing txwish has been requested on all debian based distros but can't find a good download for it
[05:46] <RAOF> !find txwish
[05:46] <ubotu> Package/file txwish does not exist in feisty
[05:47] <coz_> RAOF, it is called hamster a font controller
[05:47] <RAOF> "hamster a font controller"?
[05:47] <RAOF> !find hamster
[05:48] <ubotu> Package/file hamster does not exist in feisty
[05:49] <RAOF> coz_: If the program is *really* not in the repositories, you'll have to hunt down the dependencies, one by one.
[05:49] <RAOF> If any dependency is not in the repository, you need to recurse down a level :(
[05:49] <coz_> RAOF, I have been tryingall day but my guess is that they are not named txwish because no hunt has found anything
[05:50] <RAOF> But txwish is a dependency of what you're trying to get, right?
[05:51] <coz_> RAOF, the read out in terminal says   Finding tixwish...
[05:51] <coz_> I can't find a Tk interpreter with Tix on your system
[05:51] <coz_> This is needed in order to run hfm.
[05:51] <RAOF> !find hfm
[05:51] <coz_> RAOF, tried that too but let me look again
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file hfm does not exist in feisty
[05:51] <RAOF> :)
[05:51] <coz_> RAOF, by the way here is that app   http://www.speedyshare.com/881702803.html
[05:52] <coz_> RAOF, I found all the depencies it required except this one
[05:52] <RAOF> Does it have a homepage?
[05:53] <coz_> RAOF,  yeah let me find it again
[05:53] <coz_> http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/
[05:53] <coz_> RAOF, but apparently that is going no where hold on I will find the right one
[05:53] <RAOF> Hm, not so good with the german :(
[05:54] <hardaway> does anyone know why openoffice will not launch with the latest updates
[05:54] <coz_> RAOF, here it is http://hfm.sourceforge.net/index_e.html
[05:55] <manchicken> hardaway: I've got it running just fine here...
[05:55] <ploum> hello
[05:55] <ssaa> hello all. please i need some help
[05:56] <hardaway> it tries and then fails on my laptop
[05:56] <ploum> For a few weeks in Feisty, my system is booting very slowly
[05:56] <coz_> ssaa, ah oh what is the problem
[05:56] <ploum> I've installed bootchart
[05:56] <ssaa> im getting sound from the headphone out of my laptop but no from the speakers
[05:56] <ssaa> thanks coz_
[05:56] <ploum> and I can see that between 20s and 60s, nothing happens at all !!!
[05:56] <coz_> ssaa, ok in terminal tyep alsamixer
[05:56] <micahcowan> What does desktop-effects do? On my system it fails to work (just kills the WM). Running beryl by hand seems to work fine.
[05:57] <coz_> ssaa, make sure nothing is muted with an m that would suggest speakers
[05:57] <ploum> micahcowan: desktop-effects is compiz
[05:57] <coz_> ssaa, if it is muted you use the arrows to highlight that slider and the space bar to change it
[05:58] <ssaa> some things are muted but i cant "unmute" them with the spacebar
[05:59] <RAOF> coz_: Do you have the package "tclx8.4" installed?
[05:59] <ssaa> oh ok
[05:59] <ssaa> did it
[05:59] <ssaa> with the "m"
[05:59] <ssaa> let me try amarok now
[05:59] <micahcowan> ploum, okay; but compiz appears not to start (I run pstree and just see desktop-effects with no children, and don't see any other WMs).
[05:59] <coz_> RAOF, yep and the development files as well
[05:59] <ploum> micahcowan: fill a bug
[05:59] <ploum> try to start compiz with beryl-manager
[05:59] <ploum> and see if it fails
[06:00] <ploum> if yes, it's a compiz bug
[06:00] <macogw> ploum: i had a 22 second boot time until today's update
[06:00] <micahcowan> ploum, will do, but first I need to understand what's going on a bit more. And yes, that's a good idea, I'll do that.
[06:00] <RAOF> coz_: :(
[06:00] <ploum> if no, it's a deskop-effect bug
[06:00] <macogw> now it sits for about a minute on "configuring network interfaces"
[06:00] <coz_> RAOF, no luck there as well?
[06:00] <micahcowan> Sounds fair. Okay, then. Thanks.
[06:00] <ploum> macogw: for me, even the progress bar in usplash is stalled for a minute
[06:01] <ploum> but it does that since 2-3 weeks I think
[06:01] <coz_> RAOF, this is really puzzling to me... the app read me suggests that all modern linux distros already have this installed
[06:01] <ssaa> coz_: still nothing
[06:02] <coz_> ssaa, mm you changed the m on the sliders that were for the speakers external speakers ?
[06:02] <coz_> ssaa, you have to remove the m not put one in  just in case i confused you if so my fault
[06:02] <ssaa> i removed the m's
[06:03] <coz_> ssaa, ok
[06:03] <ssaa> oh
[06:03] <coz_> ubuntu ssaa
[06:03] <ssaa> but there's a thing
[06:03] <coz_> ssaa, what
[06:04] <ssaa> in the external slider i can mute-unmute but cant turn up thew volume
[06:04] <coz_> ssaa, ok open alsamixer again
[06:04] <ssaa> k
[06:04] <ssaa> done
[06:05] <coz_> ssaa, the first slider is the main volume control however I want you to use the arrow buttons and highlight one of the volume controls named pcm
[06:05] <ssaa> k
[06:05] <coz_> ssaa, is the slider up or down
[06:05] <ssaa> up
[06:05] <coz_> how far
[06:05] <ssaa> 3/4
[06:06] <coz_> ok that should be ok tab the up arrow a couple times to move it up just a bit
[06:06] <ssaa> ok full now
[06:07] <coz_> ssaa, nono not full if we get this working that will distort the sound quite a bit
[06:07] <ssaa> ok
[06:07] <User369> ok can someone tell me what is the problem with feisty and the 2.6.20 kernel
[06:07] <ssaa> done
[06:07] <macogw> User369: what?
[06:07] <coz_> ssaa, now scroll over to the wave slider that is just to the right of Synth
[06:07] <macogw> User369: please be more specific
[06:07] <Toma-> User369: feisty uses that kernel, yes. what is your problem?
[06:07] <User369> ok sorry
[06:08] <coz_> ssaa, you want synth and wave next to it about 3/4 of the way up
[06:08] <User369> well i did the upgrade and when i sellect 2.6.20 from grub it takes forever to startup
[06:08] <ssaa> no wave and synth
[06:08] <macogw> User369: hit alt+f1 during startup and see what it hangs on
[06:08] <coz_> ssaa, also at the top of the terminal on the left top corner is it giving you the proper referene to your sound card
[06:09] <macogw> User369: i had a 22 second boot time until today.  today's update makes my "configuring network interfaces" take about a minute
[06:09] <coz_> ssaa, so it should be identifing card..chip... view and item
[06:09] <coz_> and in the view part is should say  [Playback]  capture all
[06:09] <User369> well when i use the <IP_ADDRESS> it boots normallyy
[06:10] <User369> its when i sellect 20 that it gets stuck in the middle for close to a minute
[06:10] <ssaa> i searches in there too for wave and synth
[06:10] <os2mac> can someone give me a hand with Kubuntu Fiesty for a moment?
[06:10] <coz_> ssaa, what card is alsamixer identifying there
[06:10] <os2mac> I am having a graphics problem.
[06:10] <ssaa> coz_: ali5451
[06:10] <ssaa> that's mina
[06:10] <ssaa> mine
[06:11] <coz_> ssaa, ok and no wave or synth sliders???
[06:11] <ssaa> no at all
[06:11] <os2mac> when I boot up... my login screen is of a different resolution that my actual desktop.
[06:11] <coz_> ssaa, ok you are on ubuntu right or using gnome
[06:11] <ssaa> yes
[06:11] <ssaa> to both
[06:12] <talon223> Am i the only one experiencing WSOD problems with beryl and compiz
[06:12] <talon223> ?
[06:12] <os2mac> I am trying to reset that login screen to the same resolution as my desktop (1280x1024 @ 60hz
[06:12] <coz_> ssaa, go to System/Prefereces/ multimedia systems selector if it is not there ..in that same list go to menu editor or main menu
[06:13] <coz_> ssaa, is it there?
[06:13] <coz_> ssaa, if not open a terminal and type in gksudo alacarte
[06:13] <Amaranth> NO
[06:13] <Amaranth> NO NO NO
[06:13] <coz_> Amaranth, nono
[06:13] <coz_> ??
[06:14] <Amaranth> _NEVER_ run alacarte as root
[06:14] <coz_> Amaranth, ok
[06:14] <coz_> ssaa, forget that just type in alacarte
[06:14] <coz_> Amaranth, noticed on feisty that it does not save settings although I can drag menu item but it seems to save to the debian menu
[06:14] <ssaa> in terminal?
[06:14] <coz_> ssaa, yes in terminal tyep alacarte
[06:15] <ssaa> ok
[06:15] <Amaranth> or right click on your menus and choose "Edit Menus"
[06:15] <Amaranth> or go to System->Preferences->Main Menu
[06:15] <macogw> or alt+f2 and type alacarte without a terminal
[06:15] <RAOF> Poor Amaranth, an his poor, abused menu editor :)
[06:15] <coz_> RAOF, :)
[06:15] <ssaa> ok added multimedia system selector to the menu
[06:16] <os2mac> anyone?
[06:16] <coz_> RAOF, that happens to be my favorite app on ubuntu
[06:16] <coz_> ssaa, ok then open that
[06:16] <ssaa> donde
[06:16] <ssaa> done
[06:16] <macogw> os2mac: are you using 915resolution?
[06:16] <coz_> ssaa,  on the audio tab what does it say for default output
[06:17] <os2mac> I am in a Dell Inspiron 8600 with a 15 inch wide screen I believe the native resolution is 1280x960@60
[06:17] <User667> macogw: i looked at the verbose output at boot using kernel .20
[06:17] <ssaa> oss input
[06:17] <ssaa> i mean in output
[06:17] <User667> it takes forever to config network
[06:17] <coz_> ssaa, ok that pull down menu choose alsa
[06:17] <User667> any idea why?
[06:17] <macogw> os2mac: what graphics card?
[06:17] <coz_> ssaa, then hit the test button
[06:17] <ssaa> coz_: ok done
[06:17] <macogw> User667: that was today's update that did that
[06:18] <macogw> yesterday it wouldve been fast for ya :p
[06:18] <User667> ok
[06:18] <coz_> ssaa, sound?
[06:18] <os2mac> it's an Nvidia Geforce2 5200 but it's being detected as a generic Gforce
[06:18] <User667> so i am not alone here?
[06:18] <macogw> it's not the kernel though, that kernel (2.6.20-13) has been there for a few weeks
[06:18] <os2mac> or generic NV driver
[06:18] <ssaa> no sound from speakers, just from headphones
[06:18] <coz_> ssaa, mm
[06:18] <User667> macogw: what is it then?
[06:18] <macogw> os2mac: oh...ok i cant help. i just know intel + 915resolution
[06:19] <os2mac> is it a modes thing?
[06:19] <coz_> ssaa, this a desktop or laptop
[06:19] <macogw> User667: i doubt its a driver as we likely have different ethernet/wireless cards (i have marvell and ipw3945)
[06:19] <ssaa> a laptop
[06:19] <macogw> User667: possibly something broke if Upstart (the thing that makes ubuntu boot faster that if you used plain init scripts)
[06:19] <macogw> was updated
[06:19] <coz_> ssaa, damn i was hoping you didn't ahve the speakers pluggin right :)
[06:20] <ssaa> hahahaahahahaha
[06:20] <coz_> ssaa, :)
[06:20] <macogw> lemme see if i can see what was in today's update
[06:20] <coz_> ssaa, ok well i don't own a laptop so iw ill stop at this point, i am sure somone here may have some suggestions to solve this for you what we did was ok but apparenlty not the solution
[06:21] <User667> macogw: when i boot with kernel 10
[06:21] <ssaa> ok thank you very much coz_
[06:21] <User667> i get no such problems
[06:21] <coz_> ssaa,  sorry  but I think someone may have more infor than me about this
[06:22] <ssaa> np thanks
[06:22] <coz_> ssaa, howver now that we make that one change go back into alsamixer to see if there were any changes in there
[06:22] <ssaa> ok
[06:22] <coz_> ssaa, its doubtful but no harm in checking
[06:23] <ssaa> no changes
[06:23] <coz_> ok
[06:23] <ssaa> :(
[06:24] <macogw> User667: are you talking about a dual boot setup?
[06:24] <coz_> ssaa, sorry guy however, you can go to #alsa to see if someone there can help, they surely have more info that can be helpful
[06:24] <macogw> User667: i tried booting with 2.6.20-11, 2.6.20-12, and 2.6.20-13, all of which were FAST until the new update and all of which are slow now
[06:25] <ssaa> oh that's great thanks coz_
[06:25] <User667> damn
[06:25] <coz_> Amaranth, actually that was the first time I ever suggested that with alacarte and I never do tha tmyself..have no explanation for it :)
[06:25] <User667> what are they doing to our precious boot up :-(
[06:26] <coz_> User667, :) five em hell :)
[06:26] <coz_> give them hell I meant
[06:26] <justin__> anyone in? when my wifi connects(using ndiswrapper) nnm-applet wants me to entry a default key ring password and my root password does not work
[06:26] <macogw> User667: hang on i'm gonna mess with things and see if i can find what did it
[06:27] <ssaa> coz_: SOLVED MAN!!!
[06:27] <ssaa> great!
[06:27] <coz_> ssaa, `cool what was the solution ?
[06:28] <ssaa> i start to mute random things in the alsamixer
[06:28] <ssaa> i unmutted jack something
[06:28] <ssaa> line jack
[06:28] <coz_> ssaa, oh cool
[06:28] <ssaa> my mistake
[06:28] <ssaa> i should have donde that before
[06:28] <ssaa> thank you man
[06:28] <coz_> ssaa, ok cool  Iknew that :)
[06:28] <ssaa> :)
[06:29] <ssaa> coz may i ask you something else
[06:29] <coz_> ssaa, sure if I can help i will
[06:29] <ssaa> do u have any experience with beryl?
[06:29] <coz_> ssaa, yes......
[06:29] <ssaa> i tried to install it yesterday
[06:30] <coz_> ssaa, ok tell you what the best place to go for this is the #beryl channel i will meet you there :)
[06:30] <ssaa> i followed some steps that i found online to install it on an ati card
[06:30] <ssaa> ok thanks
[06:31] <User667> macogw: what have you found...?
[06:33] <User667> macogw: i am pretty certain that its the wifi card that is slowing the network devices connection setup
[06:33] <User667> mine is the madwifi
[06:33] <User667> excuse me, atheros
[06:37] <macogw> User667: module-init-tools was upgraded today
[06:38] <macogw> User205: mine is intel ipw3945
[06:38] <macogw> i think it's init that's the problem
[06:38] <macogw> init controls startup
[06:38] <macogw> it INITializes everything :p
[06:39] <User205> macogw:thanks
[06:39] <User205> will wait to see how this unfolds
[06:40] <User205> right now kernel is stuck at about 50 seconds on Network Devices setup
[06:40] <macogw> and just for the sake of being thorough, ipw doesnt show at all on searching the new stuff
[06:40] <macogw> i should make note of what config file this is...
[06:41] <macogw> /var/log/dpkg.log
[06:41] <User205> cheers
[06:41] <User205> thanks
[06:42] <User205> macogw: thanks....its way past bed time for me. I tell myself that i will wake up tomorrow and before its worktime a new upgrade will fix the slowness
[06:43] <User205> sometimes yes sometimes no
[06:43] <macogw> ok well i'll file a bug if its not there, so check launchpad.net tomorrow and confirm it, okay?
[06:43] <os2mac> OK this is kicking my A$$
[06:43] <os2mac> it's a resolutio problem with the login screen.
[06:43] <User205> cheers
[06:43] <os2mac> BTW this is under Kubuntu-Fiesty
[06:45] <os2mac> the desktop is correct (virtual resolution) but the login screen is incorrect.
[06:59] <mon^rch> !nvu
[06:59] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
[06:59] <mon^rch> a full rewrite, eh? :)
[07:05] <RAOF> Apparently they've never heard of Joel on Software :P
[07:06] <dougb> does anyone know if the DVD playback support has been improved in feisty?
[07:08] <RAOF> In what way "improved"?
[07:08] <RAOF> All versions of Ubuntu have actually had flawless DVD support (after a bit of configuration, sadly).
[07:09] <RAOF> If you mean "Does the default Totem support DVDs properly out of the box", the answer is still no.
[07:09] <macogw> because it's still not legal
[07:09] <RAOF> Exactly.
[07:09] <scoates> hello.
[07:10] <scoates> every time I sleep or hibernate, parts of my hardware stop working on restore.
[07:10] <scoates> for example, right now I have no sound because I did sleep/wakeup. Is there a way to troubleshoot this?
[07:10] <macogw> scoates: that would a problem with the drivers
[07:10] <poningru> hmm a friend of mine has the same troubles
[07:10] <macogw> you need to set them to unload on susped/hibernate and reload on restore
[07:10] <fignew> scoates: it's a laptop, right?
[07:11] <scoates> yes, a laptop
[07:11] <poningru> fignew: it is
[07:11] <RAOF> scoates: wiki.ubuntu.com has a bunch of help.  Let me dig some up.
[07:11] <scoates> hmm.. I looked around launchpad.
[07:11] <macogw> windows has the same problem when the drivers are bad like that :p
[07:11] <scoates> any help is appreciated.
[07:11] <poningru> hehe
[07:11] <scoates> If I hibernate, on restore, my battery indicator doesn't work (nor do my brightness adjustment keys)
[07:11] <RAOF> scoates: All of these problems should end up on launchpad as bugs, incidentally. Sound: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:11] <scoates> I figure they're related.
[07:12] <scoates> thank you.
[07:13] <macogw> put the modules of the drivers that control those parts into /etc/acpi/suspend.d/65-services-stop.sh
[07:14] <macogw> put them in /etc/acpi/resume.d/35-modules-load.sh as well to make it reload them on resume
[07:14] <macogw> scoates, RAOF, poningru, fignew ^^^^^
[07:14] <macogw> oh sorry i meant /etc/acpi/suspend.d/70-modules-unload.sh
[07:15] <scoates> I thought about that. The problem is tracking down the right modules.
[07:15] <macogw> but anyway, that's how you get around the stupid drivers that go splat on suspend/resume
[07:16] <macogw> do an lsmod and put it in the pastebin
[07:16] <scoates> for example, I can't rmmod snd because snd_hda_intel depends on it. and snd_hda_intel "is in use" (on rmmod)
[07:16] <macogw> i think you'll have to do the whole tree
[07:16] <scoates> http://pastebin.ca/425018
[07:17] <macogw> scoates: and which things dont work when you resume?  sound and what else?
[07:17] <RAOF> macogw: Cool, didn't know that.  Still those problems should be filed as bugs anyway :)
[07:17] <scoates> so far, I've found: sound, acpi hotkeys (brightness adjust, for example) and battery indicator
[07:17] <scoates> also, resuming from sleep takes a LONG time, sometimes
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Does the Migration assistant migrate AIM contacts?
[07:17] <scoates> (like 10 mins)
[07:17] <macogw> scoates: battery is part of acpi
[07:18] <scoates> ok
[07:18] <macogw> scoates has it taken a long time always or just as of today?
[07:18] <macogw> i just put in a bug because today's updates turned my 22 second boot time into a minute and a half
[07:18] <scoates> macogw: it's quick on Windows (-:   It's not today. It happened on Edgy, too.
[07:18] <scoates> and if I suspend and resume within a few mins, it's quick
[07:19] <scoates> if I leave it overnight, it takes minutes
[07:19] <macogw> hmm ok...
[07:19] <macogw> idk what to say about that (i never suspend just cuz i dont really have a reason to do so)
[07:19] <scoates> I can live with hibernate if I can figure out which modules to blacklist
[07:20] <macogw> can you do snd* ?
[07:21] <dougb> RAOF, macogw: when I was talking about DVD support, I mean that when I previously tried to play DVD's on feisty, it would only play it when the DVD was first inserted, and even then there was no chapter skipping features or other menu features.  Then if I was to exit the software and try to play the DVD again, it wouldn't work
[07:21] <foxiness> hi, is there a diff butween dist-upgrade and update-manager "like partial" ?
[07:21] <scoates> macogw:  http://pastebin.ca/425022
[07:22] <RAOF> dougb: Installing totem-xine will fix that.  GStreamer *still* hasn't got their DVDnav plugin working properly.
[07:22] <dougb> ok thanks
[07:22] <macogw> dougb: oh i never had that issue...though it would sometimes die halfway through and id have to take the cd out and put it back in and that was WITH xine backend
[07:22] <macogw> scoates: i'm looking
[07:22] <dougb> hmm, well I'm about to install feisty again and keep it for the long run, so I'll see if it has improved under my circumastances
[07:23] <dougb> if it hasn't, I'll file a bug report
[07:23] <dougb> well i'm off to the wonderful world of linux again
[07:23] <dougb> be back soon
[07:24] <scoates> I can't even rmmod -f snd_hda_intel
[07:24] <scoates> ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Resource temporarily unavailable
[07:24] <Jordan_U> foxiness: Yes, update-manager works, dist-upgrade leaves your system hosed ( at least Dapper to Edgy )
[07:24] <macogw> scoates:  can you rmmod snd* ?
[07:24] <scoates> ERROR: Module snd* does not exist in /proc/modules
[07:25] <scoates> you mean list each?
[07:25] <guesserit> hey guys how do you make the desktop on a cube appear on the screen in feisty?
[07:25] <macogw> foxiness: listen to Jordan_U on that one...12 hours it took me to go dapper > edgy!
[07:25] <macogw> guesserit: use beryl...
[07:25] <scoates> (that's what the lsmod | grep | awk  I pasted does.)
[07:25] <macogw> and ctrl alt click and drag
[07:25] <RAOF> guesserit: Or, if you want a *helpful* answer... :)
[07:26] <Jordan_U> guesserit: System -> preferences -> Desktop Effects
[07:26] <guesserit> i enabled the cube but i don t know how to use it
[07:26] <macogw> ok it doesnt like the wildcards...
[07:26] <macogw> guesserit: ctrl alt click & drap
[07:26] <RAOF> guesserit: You can either wait for your desktop-effects package to get updated. (The patch to fix the "enable cube" button was recently accepted)
[07:26] <macogw> s/drap/drag
[07:26] <macogw> or use beryl
[07:26] <Jordan_U> guesserit: ctrl + alt + arrow keys to switch workspaces, drag the mouse to have fun :)
[07:26] <RAOF> Or Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right/Up
[07:26] <macogw> because compiz is still busted on feisty
[07:27] <RAOF> macogw: That's news to me.  In what way busted?
[07:27] <macogw> in that clicking the "cube" checkmark doesnt actually do anything
[07:27] <guesserit> switch workpace works but i see no cube
[07:27] <RAOF> guesserit: Or, if you don't want to wait for the new desktop-effects package to reach your repository, you can do the config manually
[07:27] <macogw> well it could be that my gconf is still misbehaving
[07:28] <RAOF> You want to change some settings in gconf-editor, specifically /apps/compiz/general/screen0/hsize (to 4) and number_of_desktops (to 1)
[07:28] <macogw> scoates: ok snd_hda_intel is the top of the "tree" so killing that should kill the rest, i would think
[07:28] <macogw> scoates: though ACTUALLY, what exactly is your sound problem
[07:28] <scoates> macogw: I'd love to, but rmmod thinks it's in use
[07:29] <scoates> no audio output
[07:29] <scoates> mixer still works
[07:29] <macogw> because i have snd_hda_intel and on random boots it doesnt work
[07:29] <scoates> (theoretically)
[07:29] <macogw> sometimes i'll boot with sound and sometimes without
[07:29] <macogw> though i know what fixes it
[07:29] <scoates> yeah.. that might happen too. I haven't noticed as much as on resume.
[07:29] <scoates> (this worked on Edgy)
[07:30] <macogw> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:30] <scoates> ... and I noticed that my soundcard is exremely noisy, now.. wasn't like this on edgy.
[07:30] <macogw> that's the one i have...it would sometimes work sometimes not on dapper, edgy, and feisty...
[07:30] <RAOF> guesserit: Is that help enough?  Have you got cube?
[07:30] <guesserit> i dual boot xp and feisty, i want to replicate firefox (addons,bookmarks) in feisty, but how?
[07:30] <scoates> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[07:30] <Jordan_U> http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/Screenshot-Install.png <--- Does this mean it won't sync the AIM contacts?
[07:30] <scoates> guesserit: you can copy your ff profile over
[07:30] <guesserit> ok, how?
[07:31] <scoates> find it, and just copy the whole directory
[07:31] <scoates> I don't remember where, but you can probably poke around in Application Data and ~/.mozilla or ~/.firefox (whatever it is now)
[07:31] <macogw> scoates: you can try putting options snd-hda-intel model=m2-2
[07:31] <macogw>  in /etc/modules
[07:32] <scoates> ok
[07:32] <scoates> what's m2-2 ?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Because AIM is instaled on that user and according to http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta the contacts should be transferred.
[07:33] <guesserit> (no cube)
[07:33] <guesserit> how is the profile called?
[07:34] <guesserit> would it be in the program files/firefox?
[07:34] <scoates> guesserit:  it's be something weird like jk34crwh.default
[07:34] <scoates> no, it would be in C:\Documents and Settings\<your username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox (or something close to that)
[07:35] <scoates> http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile
[07:36] <guesserit> ok i just copied the whole file, where do i paste it in feisty?
[07:36] <scoates> macogw: thanks for your help. I'm going to reboot now and then probably go to sleep.
[07:36] <Jordan_U> http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/Screenshot-Install.png <--- Does this mean that Ubiquity won't sync the AIM contacts?
[07:36] <scoates> guesserit: that page shows where, too
[07:36] <guesserit> thanks
[07:39] <torpedo|dog> Is there any way to get effects working on an ATI Mobility Radeon X1600? If I turn Option Composite on, I get sent back to VESA-land.
[07:44] <guesserit> i can t find where to paste the profile file in feisty
[07:45] <RAOF> torpedo|dog: Welcome to the joy of the fglrx drivers.
[07:45] <alka_trasg> I wonder if Dell will pre-install ubuntu.
[07:45] <RAOF> torpedo|dog: You need to use XGL: wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl
[07:48] <torpedo|dog> RAOF: yeah, I love my Thinkpad 'xcept for that.
[07:48] <torpedo|dog> ta for the help
[07:51] <guesserit> know anything about drivers for alps touchpads?
[08:00] <unikuser> after updating  my ubuntu to feisty beta, my opera is dumping core. anyone else having same problem?
[08:04] <DanaG> New version of QT?
[08:05] <guesserit> know how to launch the immigration manager from feisty desktop????
[08:05] <unikuser> may be i'm trying to downgrade qt
[08:05] <guesserit> migration manager that is
[08:05] <unikuser> but, all other qt,kde application are working good.
[08:06] <RAOF> guesserit: You can't.  Migration-assistant is only on install, for the moment.
[08:06] <guesserit> damn! so how can i share my settings (addons,bookmarks) with feisty from my dual boot xp?
[08:07] <guesserit> the migration manager never showed up when i updated from edgy
[08:07] <macogw> guesserit: its only if you fresh install
[08:08] <guesserit> so there are no way to do it...
[08:10] <dougb> i see they have sped up the servers that feisty repo's are on
[08:10] <guesserit> anyway to make the general fonts look like the windows ones?
[08:14] <Quinn_Storm> anyone seen any bugs with networking lately?  specifically after the latest round of updates, I can't get wireless up under any kernel (with the same exact drivers I was using flawlessly before), running ifconfig eth1 up hangs for ~30 seconds then fails with a firmware load error
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Quinn_Storm: anything blacklisted in modprobe?
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> what card are you using?
[08:29] <Quinn_Storm> its not the driver (same driver is loading, bcm43xx), nothing about the kernel has changed, its still my custom(vanilla) 2.6.21-rc5-git10
[08:30] <Sebastian> I have the problem that my wireless connection is not automatically established (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/96861). But it works manually (iwconfig/ifconfig).
[08:30] <ubotu> Malone bug 96861 in network-manager "Wireless connection not activated after boot/login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ah, running okay. hmm, maybe an issue of regression. can't be sure...is everything listed in /etc/interfaces
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> blah, can't think straight. going to bed. sorry I can't be more helpful
[08:34] <dougb> there is no sound in feisty
[08:34] <DanaG> One funny thing about fonts:
[08:35] <dougb> last week, i had feisty installed through updates and the sound was fine, now there is no sound what so ever
[08:35] <DanaG> I love the Xorg subpixel hinting; I can't stand Cleartype once I've gotten used to Freetype.
[08:35] <RAOF> !bug | dougb
[08:35] <ubotu> dougb: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:35] <RAOF> Everybody loves regressions!
[08:36] <dougb> serious, this is too bad
[08:37] <RAOF> dougb: Then let the devs know.  They'll *want* to know about regressions (it worked before, doesn't now).
[08:37] <RAOF> That means you need to file a bug.
[08:37] <dougb> yeah i will
[08:38] <DanaG> Oh yeah, and My issue: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4579
[08:38] <DanaG> I like 2.6.21 -- I can turn my backlight entirely OFF, just for the helluvit.
[08:39] <Quinn_Storm> 2.6.21-rc5-git10 does two things for me
[08:39] <Quinn_Storm> #1 - the bcm43xx driver WORKS on my 4311, and also #2 - it actually suspends/resumes!
[08:39] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I just remembered:
[08:39] <RAOF> Quinn_Storm: Good, important reasons :)
[08:39] <DanaG> I found a script that kills and restarts Beryl on suspend and resume.
[08:39] <dougb> Quinn_Storm: are you using it with ubuntu feisty? or another distro?
[08:40] <DanaG> Now my suspend is MORE reliable than XP!
[08:40] <DanaG> If I put XP in sleep, it'll randomly wake up and freeze some time later, for no apparent reason.
[08:40] <Quinn_Storm> yeah I don't need that myself
[08:40] <RAOF> DanaG: That's because it's trying to go to hibernate.
[08:40] <RAOF> You're probably not using nvidia drivers, then.
[08:40] <dougb> if i recall the only distro i see using 2.6.21 is opensuse 10.3
[08:41] <DanaG> I AM using NVIDIA, though.
[08:41] <DanaG> Now if only I could get back transparent cube....
[08:41] <RAOF> Oh, that was to Quinn_Storm.    Its just that nvidia doesn't properly restore the textures on resume, isn't it?
[08:45] <DanaG> I went back to the packaged kernel for that reason.
[08:45] <bullgard4> Can you advise me a tutorial on Ekiga, hopefully a long one.
[08:47] <DanaG> Time for me to go to bed.
[09:01] <DanaG> http://www.ookla.com/speedtest/index.php
[09:39] <stone123> !info opera feisty
[09:39] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in feisty
[09:42] <nobodyLV> problem: I have HDD with 2 partitions. Both ext3. First I can mount, second can not! Error:
[09:42] <nobodyLV> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, missing codepage or other error
[09:42] <nobodyLV> have any advice?
[09:42] <Amaranth> check dmesg
[09:43] <nobodyLV> [ 3845.772237]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb2, logical block 12435
[09:43] <nobodyLV> [ 3845.772245]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb2, logical block 12436
[09:43] <nobodyLV> [ 3845.772250]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb2, logical block 12437
[09:43] <nobodyLV> [ 3845.772256]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb2, logical block 12438
[09:43] <nobodyLV> [ 3845.772261]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb2, logical block 12439
[09:44] <Amaranth> hmm
[09:44] <Amaranth> HD dying?
[09:44] <nobodyLV> no way ;)
[09:44] <zdzichuBG> look so
[09:44] <zdzichuBG> check cables
[09:45] <zdzichuBG> smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sdb
[09:45] <nobodyLV> only I use it to connect to windows with windows ext2fs driver
[09:45] <stone123> game over man , game over
[09:45] <nobodyLV> !info smartctl feisty
[09:46] <ubotu> Package smartctl does not exist in feisty
[09:46] <stone123> its in some sys-tools
[09:46] <nobodyLV> found :)
[09:46] <nobodyLV> smartmontools
[09:47] <stone123> @pony nobodyLV
[09:48] <Amaranth> "Device does not support SMART"
[09:48] <Amaranth> eep
[09:48] <Amaranth> what does SATA use?
[09:50] <zdzichuBG> Amaranth: "-d ata"
[09:50] <Amaranth> oops :P
[09:53] <nobodyLV> can anybody look at smartctl report? http://work.nobody.lv/hdd
[09:56] <Sebastian> It's dead, Jim.
[09:56] <nobodyLV> Whos Jim?
[09:56] <zdzichuBG> yup, serious errors in log
[09:56] <nobodyLV> fuck
[09:57] <nobodyLV> are there any testing tools?
[09:57] <nobodyLV> for hdd
[09:57] <Amaranth> that was a testing tool
[09:57] <Amaranth> it tells you your HD is dead
[09:57] <Amaranth> backup what you can
[09:58] <nobodyLV> but why only one partition?
[09:58] <Amaranth> the other one will probably go soon
[09:58] <Amaranth> you just happened to get corruption of a superblock on partition 2
[10:00] <nobodyLV> I need backup data :(
[10:07] <Nrrd> am I on the right track here?  I have a via epia ex board and I'm having problems with the framebuffer at boot, I've compiled the via framebuffer driver and addeed that to /etc/modules but it still doesnt work on boot but does work when I shut down.  do I need to create a custome initrd file with this module in it to get framebuffer working at boot?
[10:08] <elmargol> Hi I have Bug #103210 can someone help me?
[10:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 103210 in linux-source-2.6.20 "ipw3945 Wifi connection is verry slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103210
[10:16] <Nrrd> or should I be using video=whatever in the grub menu.1st?
[10:18] <CarinArr> question for you... i have a badly broken package.. dpkg -P package says i need to reinstall it first
[10:19] <CarinArr> but trying to reinstall it crashes as well
[10:20] <jshadias> i have rhythmbox and banshee crashing or in banshee's case randomly skipping over songs and in rhythmbox's case heavy stuttering whenever i maximize windows
[10:20] <jshadias> *not maximize, but un-minimize
[10:20] <acuster> is there a page somewhere describing the change from /dev/hd* to /dev/sd* ?
[10:21] <stone123> udev
[10:22] <stone123> !uuid
[10:22] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:22] <acuster> thanks
[10:23] <stone123> np , i still did get alot info from that page
[10:24] <acuster> do you know if /dev/sd* will remain canonical for a while?
[10:25] <acuster> it's a lot easier for scripts
[10:25] <stone123> offcourse uuid are just link
[10:25] <stone123> s
[10:26] <saispo> hi
[10:27] <LGKeiz> O_o;
[10:28] <acuster> ah, thanks
[10:35] <Mena> Hey
[10:35] <Mena> By accident The upgrader tool closed
[10:35] <Mena> is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal
[10:36] <Mena> !?
[10:41] <MarkFeathers> What is a good replacement for vnc (I keep hearing about vnc4server breakage)
[10:42] <Mena> By accident The upgrader tool closed
[10:42] <Mena> is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal ?
[10:43] <Mena> Lets try again
[10:43] <Mena> By accident The upgrader tool closed
[10:43] <Mena> is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal ?
[10:48] <decaf> hi, on feisty, when I enable desktop effects, window decorations dissappear. do I have to install something like emerald for compiz?
[10:50] <MarkFeathers> decaf: in your xorg make sure that in screen there is "defaultdepth = 24"
[10:51] <decaf> thanks, I'll try
[10:52] <MarkFeathers> !vnc
[10:52] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:56] <Mena>  !FreeNX
[10:56] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:56] <Mena> !Hello
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <Mena> !Hello !
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <Mena> !ping
[10:57] <ubotu> pong
[10:57] <Mena> !ping
[10:57] <Mena> !ping
[10:57] <Mena> !pong
[10:57] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[10:58] <Mena> !ping
[10:58] <ubotu> pong
[10:58] <Mena> !games
[10:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:10] <poningru> ...
[11:12] <mosi|work> anyone having problems connecting to vnc servers in gnome-rdp?
[11:12] <mosi|work> connecting using gnome-rdp i get the tightvnc parameteres dialog up :/
[11:12] <mosi|work> but running vncviewer x.x.x.x or /usr/bin/xtightviewer x.x.x.x both work and connect :/
[11:14] <mosi|work> anyone else had a problem like this?
[11:15] <Linoleum> hi
[11:16] <Linoleum> I try to boot with my dmraid but it stops ... then I wait 5 minutes, and I am in busybox. I do dmraid -ay, them my raid is being seen... but what shoud I do to restart the boot sequence then ?
[11:18] <g1_> hello, gentlemen. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14015/ is there some way to make opera work again?
[11:27] <Suurorca> hmmh, interesting bootup =p
[11:27] <Suurorca> started splash and then fell back to regular console input
[11:28] <Suurorca> though it worked allright =)
[11:32] <iarwain> hi guys, anyone know why i get an 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when using wpa_gui using Feisty?
[11:35] <iarwain> anyone here? =)
[11:39] <poningru> iarwain: hmm?
[11:40] <iarwain> poningru: rofl xD
[11:40] <iarwain> poningru: you know why i get that error? or how to solve it?
[11:40] <poningru> we can try to figure it out...
[11:40] <poningru> but why the rofl?
[11:41] <iarwain> poningru: i thought you answered on the 'anyone here' question =)
[11:41] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:41] <poningru> ok so this happens everytime?
[11:42] <poningru> does dmesg show any errors?
[11:42] <iarwain> poningru: i never had wireless on that machine before (i'm sitting right next to it)
[11:42] <iarwain> poningru: gonna see
[11:42] <poningru> ah hmm
[11:42] <poningru> iarwain: oh crap
[11:42] <poningru> iarwain: are you sure your card can do wpa?
[11:43] <iarwain> poningru: i am sure (had it before, it's a ipw3945, the same one i am using on the other laptop)
[11:43] <iarwain> poningru: dmesg shows no errors at all
[11:43] <poningru> oh hmm
[11:44] <poningru> go into terminal and reinstall wpa_supplicant
[11:44] <poningru> or not
[11:44] <poningru> go into terminal and reinstall wpa_supplicant
[11:45] <iarwain> sorry, internet falls away most of the time ^o)
[11:45] <iarwain> okay
[11:45] <iarwain> done
[11:45] <iarwain> stil the error
[11:46] <poningru> when do you get this error?
[11:46] <iarwain> when i start wpa_gui
[11:47] <poningru> waah?
[11:47] <poningru> wpa_gui?
[11:48] <iarwain> yes
[11:48] <poningru> why arent you using network manager?
[11:48] <iarwain> does that work? last time i tried i couldn't get the thing working..
[11:48] <poningru> ... are you using feisty?
[11:48] <iarwain> i am
[11:48] <poningru> then it should have been working out of the box
[11:49] <poningru> on the top right hand corner
[11:49] <poningru> click on it
[11:49] <iarwain> it didn't work with edgy, so i tried Feisty
[11:49] <poningru> and click on your signal
[11:49] <iarwain> i'm using KDE ;)
[11:49] <iarwain> just gonna install it
[11:49] <poningru> oh
[11:49] <poningru> ...
[11:49] <iarwain> brb
[11:49] <poningru> waah?
[11:49] <poningru> knetwork manager should be there
[11:50] <iarwain> i removed when trying 'connection manager' on Dapper
[11:50] <poningru> ah
[11:52] <iarwain> *hugs poningru*
[11:52] <iarwain> it works now
[11:52] <iarwain> thanks! =)
[11:52] <poningru> cool
[11:52] <poningru> yep
[11:52] <iarwain> now.. problem 2 xD
[11:53] <iarwain> i don't have any keyboard layouts anymore.. (quite annoying)
[11:53] <poningru> ?
[11:53] <poningru> system->pref->keyboard
[11:53] <iarwain> nothing :s
[11:53] <poningru> what does it say?
[11:53] <poningru> under layouts
[11:54] <iarwain> i'm using a non-english version.. but it doesn't show me any options to choose from..
[11:54] <poningru> iarwain: click on add
[11:54] <poningru> pwnt
[11:55] <iarwain> i'm using a non-english version.. but it doesn't show me any options to choose from..
[11:55] <iarwain> stupid dc's :s
[11:57] <iarwain> back again..
[11:57] <iarwain> so,
[11:57] <iarwain> i get no layouts to choose from..
[11:58] <poningru> just click on add dude
[11:58] <iarwain> ;o
[11:58] <poningru> there is an add button right there
[11:58] <poningru> buh?
[11:58] <iarwain> but i don't have any available
[11:58] <iarwain> none to choose from -_-'
[11:58] <iarwain> i can't even choose a keyboardmodel
[11:59] <acuster> hey all, when I open a .text file I get an error dialog. Is there a way to make that extension acceptable to ubuntu?
[12:01] <poningru> iarwain: hmm that is weird
[12:02] <phaidros> .
[12:08] <agresor> cedega shows me this err msg : FTL:   Cannot load GPU programs. (Error reading from file.)ERR:
[12:08] <mat__> hi there
[12:08] <agresor> how to fix this please
[12:08] <agresor> ?
[12:08] <mat__> anyone runs opera?
[12:09] <phaidros> agresor: sry, never seenthis before
[12:09] <mat__> no opera in feisty ?
[12:09] <phaidros> mat__ I run opera :)
[12:09] <phaidros> runs fine
[12:09] <mat__> oh?
[12:09] <agresor> phaidros,  i want to start SeriuSam2 with cedega
[12:09] <agresor> and i cant  :(
[12:09] <agresor> i got that err msg: (
[12:09] <mat__> mine disapears when upgrade
[12:10] <phaidros> agresor: try #cedega or #wine
[12:10] <oooops> if anyone use opera here ????????????
[12:10] <mat__> did u upgrade to feisty ?
[12:10] <DarkMageZ> agresor, please ask the cedega people for help with cedega.
[12:10] <phaidros> mat__: yes
[12:10] <phaidros> mat__: do you have the commercial repo from canonical?
[12:10] <oooops> none use opera???
 i don't know
[12:10] <DarkMageZ> oooops, i can install it, why?
[12:11] <oooops> DarkMageZ: you can ?
[12:11] <mat__> i check sources.list
[12:11] <mosi|work> oooops,  i do
[12:11] <oooops> download from opera.com?
[12:11] <phaidros> ah since last update I get segfault on opara also
[12:11] <mosi|work> i got mine from opera.com yea
[12:11] <oooops> but only edgy version here . mosi|work
[12:11] <phaidros> libjvm.so & libawt.so missing for opera
[12:11] <mosi|work> just got the ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft version
[12:12] <mosi|work> works fine for me, no problems at all
[12:12] <oooops> just need those two so. phaidros
[12:12] <oooops> oooo. isee
[12:12] <mosi|work> i guess they'll release a feisty version when its released as stable
[12:12] <phaidros> oooops: yeah, but that should'nt break if everything is from feisty repos :)
[12:12] <phaidros> should then be a depency, and worked before .. just the last upgrade broke it
[12:13] <oooops> mosi|work: if you use 9.20 version?
[12:13] <phaidros> mat__: start opera from terminal and see if its the same problem
[12:13] <mosi|work> Version
[12:13] <mosi|work> 9.10
[12:13] <mosi|work> Build
[12:13] <mosi|work> 521
[12:13] <oooops> ok, thanks
[12:13] <mosi|work> been using this one since fesity beta was first released
 the same as oooops "seg fault"
[12:14] <oooops> my 9.20b always segamenter error. haha .
[12:14] <oooops> now i return to 9.10. thanks all.
[12:14] <phaidros> oooops: I dunno which packages the libs are in.
[12:15] <mosi|work> where is the opera changelog?
[12:15] <phaidros> Opera 9.10 . Build 521 for Linux. gets segfault here
[12:15] <oooops> ?
[12:15] <oooops> opera-static??
[12:16] <mosi|work> oooops, http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=183923
[12:16] <mosi|work> have a look at that
[12:16] <oooops> mosi|work: if you got a opera-static.....ok
[12:16] <phaidros> oooops: not the static, the other on :)
[12:16] <oooops> no opera. now irssi is so hard... haha
[12:17] <phaidros> irssi is not hard :)
[12:18] <phaidros> oh, I removed opera and now can't reinstall it from repos, package not found //
[12:18] <phaidros> ??
[12:19] <phaidros> there is just the virtual opera package in the repos.
[12:19] <phaidros> and no real install package ..
[12:19] <phaidros> maybe comes in the next hours
[12:19] <shirish> guys anbody remember a command which lists where the contents of a package are installed?
[12:20] <phaidros> apt-file ?
[12:20] <LjL> shirish: dpkg -L package
[12:20] <phaidros> ah
[12:20] <LjL> yeah, if you don't have the package installed, then use apt-file
[12:20] <phaidros> ok
[12:20] <shirish> thnx LjL :)
[12:21] <oooops> mosi|work: you downgrade to libx11-6_2%3a1.0.3-6_i386.deb?
[12:22] <mosi|work> i didnt need to no
[12:22] <oooops> oo
[12:22] <mosi|work> but ive only used opera 9.10
[12:22] <oooops> i see. thanks
[12:22] <mosi|work> i think its when you upgrade to 9.20 then it messes up
[12:22] <mosi|work> and also when you go back from 9.20 to 9.10
[12:22] <mosi|work> but if you stay at 9.10 its fine
[12:23] <oooops> now i download 9.10.
[12:26] <oooops> opera-9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt.i386-en-521$  ./opera
[12:26] <oooops> Segmentation fault
[12:26] <oooops> sad
[12:27] <oooops> Segmentation fault
[12:27] <oooops> opera-9.20-20070323.1-static-qt.i386-en-617$  ./opera
[12:27] <oooops> 2 all fail
[12:28] <phaidros> is there some missing libs or so? (if you start it in the terminal you should see)
[12:30] <oooops> libx11-6 how to downgrade?
[12:31] <oooops> i got a libx11-6_1.0.3-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[12:31] <oooops> 2:1.1.1-1ubuntu3 is installed. want down to 1.0.3
[12:35] <leagris> helo
[12:37] <leagris> I have a bootchart showing syslogd taking 20s idle. I'd like to know how to improove this or if I should provide that info somewhere ?
[12:37] <leagris> Here is my bootchart http://www.noiraude.net/img/feisty-20070404-3.png
[12:40] <Arko> how can I generate a bootchart like that
[12:40] <Arko> ?
[12:42] <oooops> mosi|work: i downgrade to 1.0.3 libx11. now seems ok.
[12:43] <oooops> all version of opera is ok. hehe .
[12:43] <leagris> Arko, just install the bootchart package and it wil be there at next boot
[12:43] <Arko> leagris: thanks
[12:44] <leagris> png charts are stored in /var/log/bootchart/
[12:46] <Arko> okay
[12:56] <Infecto> hello
[12:56] <Infecto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14021/
[12:56] <Infecto> pls tell me should i report this as bug ? or thats the problem of my settings ?
[12:57] <Infecto> i`v got 5 sucha events from 49 min
[01:01] <finalbeta> Infecto: i've seen simular reports, my Laptop takes 10 minutes to boot due to those kind of errors
[01:02] <finalbeta> just search launchpad,
[01:02] <finalbeta> the disk probably supports something better then UDMA/33 2
[01:03] <Infecto> yes
[01:05] <Infecto> but is there a vaxine for this ?
[01:06] <finalbeta> Search launchpad, there was no fix for me, Ubuntu simply doesn't work anymore on my laptop. It's reported...
[01:07] <finalbeta> But there are others with similar issues, perhaps there are fixes.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> anyone seen the nvidia geforce card + upgrade issue in the last week or so
[01:21] <gnomefreak> geforce4 card sorry
[01:28] <mattik> Is grub yet unstable? My booting is halted some times with sata-drive.
[01:31] <sonoftheclayr> is it normal for my sound to be spontaneous and stop working?
[01:35] <VirhYl3> Hi, anyone wanna help me make a launcher for a game that runs in wine?
[01:35] <pschulz01> greetings
[01:35] <VirhYl3> I'm getting the error: Can't open default.cfg
[01:35] <VirhYl3> for Urban Terror, stand alone.
[01:35] <VirhYl3> Greetings.
[01:39] <pschulz01> Anyone else having problems with installing openssh-server.. not the most resent.. 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 instead of 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1
[01:44] <pschulz01> Can someone do an 'apt-cache show openssh-server | grep Version' in feisty
[01:44] <mosi|work> Version: 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1
[01:45] <pschulz01> Ok, maybe my sources are still updating.
[01:46] <pschulz01> mosi|work: That what the website was saying as well..
[01:47] <[doctor] > hi... can anybody say about last kernel in 7.04.... 2.6.20-14 released?
[02:08] <[doctor] > thanks... very friendly ubunru.... /me returns to archlinux
[02:12] <gerv> Installing the Feisty beta has bricked my IBM X40 laptop :-(
[02:12] <gerv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/102148
[02:12] <ubotu> Malone bug 102148 in mdadm "Machine won't boot; mdadm says "no device listed..."" [Undecided,Fix released]
[02:13] <gerv> SJR said to upgrade to the latest versions of certain packages.
[02:13] <gerv> How do I do that when I'm booted using a LiveCD?
[02:19] <elmargol> gerv: mount the device, chroot, and apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[02:20] <zerogrounding> this is about feisty??
[02:20] <elmargol> yes
[02:21] <zerogrounding> oh,, sounds good
[02:21] <gerv> How do I chroot? Man chroot?
[02:21] <zerogrounding> anybody knows some special about feisty compared with edgy
[02:22] <elmargol> chroot /mnt/fooo/bar
[02:22] <gerv> Cool.
[02:23] <gerv> Ah. Only 135 packages...
[02:23] <gerv> Thanks, chaps.
[02:25] <pschulz01> mosi|work: I think I have found my problem!
[02:25] <Pici> zerogrounding: Special?
[02:25] <zerogrounding> Picii : yes
[02:26] <zerogrounding> now i use edgy
[02:26] <zerogrounding> and i have plant to migrate to feisty
[02:29] <coz_> well the last updates to feisty included a gtk2 engine which , of course, is attached to ubuntu-desktop, and which of course has messed up my entire visual look and the theme I use. so if youguys insist on attaching things to ubuntu-desktop please give a work around to be able to remove it with the removal of ubuntu-dektop
[02:29] <coz_> without the removal of ubuntu-desktop I meant
[02:32] <JuJuBee> Can anybody help me with syntax for mounting remote home dir using uid different than the one on my computer?
[02:32] <JuJuBee> I know I need the -U option, but everything I enter tells me no such partition.
[02:39] <jin> hi
[02:40] <jin> please fix the wireless module problem for the chipset rt2500 before you guys release Feisty.
[02:40] <SlimeyPete> jin: have you filed a bug? This is mostly a support/discussion channel - there isn't much development talk here
[02:41] <bdgraue> i try to mount an external hdd with ntfs-partition; i have following error:  hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[02:41] <jin> SlimeyPete, they already have fired this bug long ago
[02:41] <zerogrounding> jin : i have same experience with you
[02:41] <jin> I'm doing a workaround to get online :(
[02:41] <jin> it was working perfect on dapper
[02:41] <zerogrounding> maybe you can try to ubuntuforum
[02:42] <zerogrounding> i ever shown that tutorial
[02:42] <jin> zerogrounding, I have , all of them are using the workaround right now :)
[02:43] <nomasteryoda> bdgraue, sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/ntfs -t ntfs
[02:43] <nomasteryoda> ?
[02:43] <zerogrounding> somebody know how to search samba server and access them on my ubuntu
[02:44] <bdgraue> nomasteryoda: the external hdd is shown in filemanager and i try to mount it from there
[02:51] <gerv> I've been told to "set the bug back to Confirmed". Does a standard launchpad account have that ability? Which knob do I twiddle?
[02:53] <gerv> Never mind - found it.
[02:53] <gerv> Thanks, everyone.
[02:56] <boojit> hi: quick question about dmesg output since its output differs from the linux distro that I'm used to. The timestamp (first field) is then number of wallclock seconds since bootstrap, correct?
[03:03] <boojit> that's what it appears to be from the look of it, just wanted to confirm
[03:06] <boojit> if anyone is around -- i'm trying to pull information together for a bug report I want to file -- and would like to just check with someone who's knowledgeable about filing bugs to make sure I do a good job.
[03:07] <cliebow>     anyone using ldap in feisty.id like to compare prems on /var/run?
[03:09] <boojit> wow when did the lauchpad bugs app get all super-tiny with the fonts -- that's sort of annoying
[03:31] <foxiness> anyone test intype + wine ?
[03:38] <shirish> hi all
[03:39] <shirish> does anybody where my firefox config file is installed?
[03:40] <_4strO> shirish: ~/.mozilla/firefox/profile.defaut/
[03:41] <_4strO> it's a hidden file i think
[03:41] <Flosoft> hey
[03:41] <_4strO> yo
[03:41] <Pici> Mines <randomstring>.default
[03:41] <Flosoft> I have got a problem with some packages in feisty
[03:41] <mosi|work> !games
[03:41] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:41] <Flosoft> http://pastebin.ca/425391
[03:43] <Flosoft> these packages constantly fail
[03:45] <shirish> guys if I want to re-install FF what would the command be. I wanna repair my FF
[03:46] <CarinArr> Flosoft: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+bug/63450 ?
[03:46] <ubotu> Malone bug 63450 in acpid "acpid install fails, upgrading from dapper to edgy beta." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:46] <shirish> would it be sudo apt-get/aptitude re-install firefox
[03:46] <CarinArr> hmm dapper to edgy?
[03:46] <_4strO> shirish: sudo apt-get remove firefox && rm -R ~/.mozilla/
[03:47] <Flosoft> well .. it is edgy > feisty
[03:47] <CarinArr> Flosoft: does the proposed fix there work for you though?
[03:47] <Flosoft> not dapper to edgy
[03:47] <Flosoft> checking ...
[03:47] <CarinArr> Flosoft: i gathered.. i didn't notice it saying dapper to edgy until i'd already pasted you it;)
[03:48] <shirish> _4strO: doing that also gets rid of ubuntu-desktop, I do not want that
[03:48] <Flosoft> worked :D
[03:48] <CarinArr> cool
[03:48] <CarinArr> \o/
[03:48] <CarinArr> heh
[03:49] <Flosoft> ok ... now I still have: http://pastebin.ca/425402
[03:50] <Flosoft> the other bug should be fixed for feisty
[03:52] <Flosoft> !console-setup
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console-setup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <Flosoft> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/102972
[03:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 102972 in console-setup "console-setup does not upgrade from edgy to feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[03:54] <assasukasse> i have problems connectiong to vnc tru ssh, i load vnc as a xorg module, i used the "localhost" option to accept only local connections, then i ssh -L 5901:target:5900 user@target and try to connect tru xvncviewer but i only see a windows with 3 boxes, options about the clipboard
[03:54] <assasukasse> what can i do
[04:03] <Flosoft> or any idea what is wrong with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/102316
[04:03] <ubotu> Malone bug 102316 in k3b "K3B disables DMA" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[04:08] <Nookie^> hi! trying to install feisty but cant load X i mean i can but it takes 2 hours before even seeing cursor... is there any way to install feisty with old fashion way like 5.04?
[04:08] <shirish> !info console-setup
[04:08] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.13ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 429 kB, installed size 1148 kB
[04:08] <shirish> Flosoft: just for u
[04:12] <valehru> Hi there guys, for some reason I no longer have any sound on my laptop...wtf..
[04:12] <Subhuman> Nookie^, - yes- feisty has an altenative install CD just like all other releases
[04:12] <valehru> what packages should be installed for sound?
[04:13] <Subhuman> valehru, if you already had it - then you shouldnt need to install something.
[04:13] <valehru> alsa-base is already installed....but still nothing.
[04:13] <valehru> well...I had it..
[04:13] <Subhuman> and your 100% sure its not muted or something stupid?
[04:13] <Nookie^> Subhuman: how whats the command or what do i choose?
[04:13] <Subhuman> run alsamixer and check
[04:13] <Subhuman> Nookie^, - you need to get the alternative install iso.
[04:13] <valehru> Subhuman, I removed alsa.....then in order to get the sound working for the headphones I had to manually re-install alsa.
[04:13] <Nookie^> Subhuman: okej m8.. thanx!
[04:14] <Subhuman> valehru, oh so you removed some stuff - try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:14] <bdgraue> is there a way, that external hdd's with ntfs get handled like others (vfat or ext3)?
[04:15] <valehru> Subhuman, its already installed.
[04:15] <bdgraue> and is it that hard to overwrite an dvd-rw with a dvd-video and use the dvd for datafiles?
[04:15] <valehru> Subhuman, nothing to upgrade.
[04:15] <bdgraue> i had to force it to format the dvd new
[04:15] <shirish> anybody has any idea when feisty+1 will start, any names or any idea about that?
[04:15] <valehru> Im getting the error in the command line: ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[04:15] <valehru> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[04:16] <valehru> ALSA lib conf.c:3968:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[04:17] <Subhuman> shirish, better asking in #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-motu - but i believe its going to be called "greedy goose" ?
[04:17] <shirish> lol: I guess you are making that up, although it would be a real cool name
[04:18] <Subhuman> i have heard the name mentioned - no joke.
[04:18] <Subhuman> but it wasnt some verifiable source so i cant say thats the name.,
[04:18] <valehru> Subhuman, heard that too on Slashdot
[04:21] <VirhYl3> Makes sense.   :D
[04:21] <Hobbsee> unless you find it announced on an official ubuntu devel mailing list, or ubuntu announce, it's not correct.
[04:21] <VirhYl3> What if I go down on Mark Shuttleworth?
[04:22] <SlimeyPete> I reckon they should call it Englebert.
[04:23] <valehru> perhaps VistaKiller II
[04:23] <Pici> The only 'G' name thats been released is Grumpy Groundhog, but thats the 'cutting edge' non-release
[04:23] <Pici> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/grumpy-groundhog
[04:24] <Tomcat_> Greedy Goose is at least possible... both words are on the DevelopmentCodeNames wiki page :)
[04:25] <Pici> So is Horny Human, but that doesnt mean ist going to happen
[04:25] <poningru> lol
[04:25] <poningru> Great Gator
[04:26] <shirish> does anybody know how I can use the  Windows key so the Ubuntu Menu opens up?
[04:26] <Tomcat_> Pici: I'm just saying it's more likely, because if those weren't on the list, it'd be an easy fake :)
[04:27] <Tomcat_> shirish: You can.
[04:27] <Tomcat_> shirish: Oh, sorry. :)
[04:27] <shirish> Tomcat_: instructions, please
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> I am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> However, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> What I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.
[04:27] <aaroncampbell> Anyone know what might be wrong?
[04:27] <Tomcat_> shirish: I thought it was an "if" question... I have no idea how it works.
[04:28] <shirish> aaroncampbell: if u do not a get an answer try the ##samba channel, people there are also helpful
[04:28] <Tomcat_> aaroncampbell: Did you set your Samba PW and enable your user for Samba?
[04:28] <shirish> Tomcat_: ok cool
[04:28] <Tomcat_> shirish: Have you tried searching the forums? I'm pretty sure somebody already asked this...
[04:28] <aaroncampbell> shirish: it's just one #, and I've tried it for a couple days with 0 response.
[04:29] <shirish> oh ok, I have seen that freenode has been changing some of the channels to ## hence figured that, sorry to know that
[04:29] <aaroncampbell> Tomcat_: Yes I did, but it didn't help.  However, I really want to do this with NO username/pass required.  I have quite a few windows machines around here, with multiple users on some, and I want ANYONE to be able to get to it.
[04:31] <shirish> Tomcat_: Giving using Windows key shows 9 pages but nothing relevant on them.
[04:31] <Tomcat_> shirish: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/
[04:33] <shirish> Tomcat_: thnx, got it, I had the keyboard shortcuts figured out but not, which entry it would be
[04:33] <Tomcat_> :-)
[04:34] <teb> so I'm running kubuntu-desktop from an installed ubuntu distro, which i apt-get'd, when i run apt-get it tells me that about 419mb of packages aren't in use and are about to be removed, they're things like libqt4, kontact, kmouse, lots of kthings
[04:34] <teb> (sorry aptitude) i shouldn't let it remove those, right?
[04:35] <SlimeyPete> teb: right.
[04:35] <teb> okay, so now what should i do?
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> does Adept say the same thing?
[04:37] <Tomcat_> teb: Do you have the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[04:37] <Stormx2> Can I run an upgrade, yeah?
[04:37] <teb> to get kubuntu-desktop i did a aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <Stormx2> Edgy --> Feisty
[04:39] <teb> adept says nothing about removing packages, but it comes up with errors committing changes when installing packages
[04:39] <Tomcat_> Stormx2: Yes, but remember to back up your data.
[04:39] <teb> is apt-get == adept?
[04:39] <Tomcat_> teb: No, adept is an interface to apt-get
[04:39] <Stormx2> What should I backup?
[04:40] <Stormx2> My /home is on another partition
[04:40] <teb> okay, adept is what i was just using, it said no changes when i hit preview changes
[04:40] <Tomcat_> Stormx2: Whatever important data you have. :)
[04:40] <valehru> Hey guys, is there a reason why feisty is not using alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3 by default?
[04:40] <teb> good call  Tomcat_
[04:40] <Stormx2> It should be safe on another partition methinks ^.^
[04:40] <valehru> Seriously it needs to update its sound drivers....alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3 at least provides support for my headphones on my laptop.
[04:40] <valehru> :)
[04:40] <Tomcat_> Stormx2: I'm just saying to caution people... if you're sure your data is safe, proceed. :)
[04:41] <Stormx2> Yeah
[04:41] <Stormx2> I think it is.
[04:41] <Stormx2> Hmm
[04:41] <Stormx2> I'll take a couple of minutes to check.
[04:41] <teb> if it's not on some removable media it's not safe
[04:41] <SlimeyPete> valehru: mmm, I too have problems which might be fixed if I could install a newer version of Alsa (I cba to mess around with a source-code install)
[04:42] <valehru> SlimeyPete, just install and compile alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3 from source...it sorted out all my problems
[04:42] <valehru> ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc3.tar.bz2
[04:42] <SlimeyPete> yeah, but I've compiled alsa before and it was OK until the package manager overwrote the changes ;)
[04:42] <gils> I am having problems with very slow bootup after last big feisty upgrade  a few days ago
[04:43] <Stormx2> Should I close apps while upgrading?
[04:43] <valehru> gils, you are not the only one...
[04:43] <SlimeyPete> I guess it's better than nothing though, might have a go at it tonight.
[04:43] <SlimeyPete> gils: me too
[04:43] <gils> valeheru: yes i figured so.
[04:43] <valehru> SlimeyPete, yeah, the problem is that alsa is completely tied in with ubuntu-core
[04:43] <teb> Stormx2: doesn't matter
[04:43] <valehru> or ubuntu-minimal.....
[04:43] <SlimeyPete> mine tends to hang around for a while during the "Configuring Network Interfaces" bit
[04:44] <gils> yes....it seems a few people are stuck on that. That is my problem too
[04:44] <boojit> yep I have that too
[04:44] <SlimeyPete> in fact, if I have no physical cable connected it seems to hang indefinitely.
[04:44] <gils> Configuring NICs takes well over a minute
[04:44] <boojit> sticks for like 2 minutes at "configuring network"
[04:44] <valehru> My network is working fine though.....plus I have to re-configure it when I get back into X.
[04:44] <boojit> nothing really showing up in the logs, or ini dmesg either
[04:44] <valehru> On wifi...
[04:45] <boojit> Yeah my networking comes up fine when it comes up
[04:45] <boojit> there's a bug report filed ... i need to add a "me too" with my output
[04:45] <boojit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbase/+bug/102675
[04:45] <ubotu> Malone bug 102675 in netbase "Feisty boot hangs on "Configuring network interfaces"" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[04:45] <shirish> boojit: is it wi-fi or wired connection?
[04:46] <gils> i have spent the whole day looking at logs, and network configs....its all fine. I cant figure out why it takes the kernel so long to load up the network config
[04:46] <boojit> I'm using a wireless connection
[04:46] <boojit> I also found a forum post with a possible workaround which I haven't tried -- let me find it
[04:46] <valehru> Whats the difference between nsplugginwrapper and nsplugginwrapper-i386?  Why is there two of them?
[04:46] <boojit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400926
[04:47] <valehru> both of them are installed....but no flash is working?  Strange because it was fine last night.
[04:47] <boojit> if anybody wants to try that workaround let us know what it does -- i'm going to try later on today
[04:48] <boojit> this is all I see in dmesg:
[04:48] <boojit> [   22.276000]  EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[04:48] <boojit> [   23.776000]  NET: Registered protocol family 17
[04:48] <boojit> [  114.928000]  ACPI: AC Adapter [AC]  (on-line)
[04:48] <boojit> so you can just see the lag there between 23. and 114. but no messages anywhere else that I can find
[04:48] <valehru> hmm...Is there a reason why the loopback interface is IPV6 enabled?  I thought I blacklisted that...          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[04:49] <boojit> yeah i have ipv6 blacklisted as well
[04:49] <shirish> boojit: you did not see whether it is wi-fi or wired?
[04:49] <boojit> shirish: not sure what you're asking me
[04:49] <shirish> your network connection, is it wireless or through ethernet?
[04:50] <valehru> is it eth1 or eth0 it is hanging on?
[04:50] <boojit> shirish: as I said earlier, I'm using a wireless connection
[04:50] <valehru> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbase/+bug/102675
[04:50] <ubotu> Malone bug 102675 in netbase "Feisty boot hangs on "Configuring network interfaces"" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[04:50] <shirish> boojit: ah that is why I asked, for till now things are pretty sweet
[04:50] <valehru> there is the bug report
[04:50] <boojit> and I've given you _all_ the information that I'm getting from my logs. It's not telling me anyting about what network interface it is
[04:50] <boojit> valehru: I just mentioned that bug report 1 minute ago
[04:51] <valehru> boojit, ahh...I wasnt paying attention....
[04:51] <valehru> :D
[04:51] <boojit> np
[04:51] <shirish> boojit: from what I know, atleast on ethernet if you are connected then while setting it up, it takes the active connection as eth0
[04:52] <shirish> boojit: no idea about wireless though :(
[04:53] <valehru> Im just after seeing a quote on the forums about it: "BTW I consider 58 sec to be quite satisfactory, my suse install takes >2min."
[04:53] <boojit> anyway if anyone tries that possible workaround let us know what you find out -- appears to work for some and not for others.
[04:53] <valehru> Well....at least we aint using suse..
[04:53] <valehru> Not working for me...
[04:54] <valehru> My interfaces file is clean.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that bug
[04:59] <zerogrounding> halo
[04:59] <Hobbsee> boojit: comment out the offending interfaces in /e/n/i - but that may play havoc with NM
[05:03] <b33j0r> Hi, can anyone help me troubleshoot wireless in feisty beta?
[05:03] <valehru> anyone know of a package for wine on feisty for amd64?
[05:04] <limetang> What does isolinux disk error 80 mean?
[05:04] <cliebow>  b33j0r prism2?
[05:04] <b33j0r> what is prism2?
[05:05] <valehru> prism2 is a driver for wifi n'est pas?
[05:05] <valehru> from what i remember.
[05:05] <b33j0r> I'm trying to use ndiswrapper right now...
[05:05] <SlimeyPete> limetang: http://syslinux.zytor.com/archives/2002-August/000738.html
[05:05] <b33j0r> it actually lists ap's and will even associate
[05:06] <eagles0513875> now i keep getting this msg and i cant update or download any pkgs E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) how do i fix this
[05:06] <SlimeyPete> eagles0513875: go into a terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:06] <SlimeyPete> followed by your user password
[05:06] <eagles0513875> even when i am trying to update pkgs
[05:06] <limetang> Hmmm... ok. I suppose the machine's BIOS could be considered outdated (Award 4.51PG). :P
[05:06] <SlimeyPete> (you can click "Fix Broken Packages in Synaptic too but I dunno if that works as well)
[05:06] <limetang> Thank you, SlimeyPete.
[05:06] <Hobbsee> boojit: found it.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: not enough info
[05:07] <eagles0513875> its working now
[05:07] <eagles0513875> i did sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[05:08] <b33j0r> Does anyone know what in general could cause this? I can list AP's, but they all show as 0% strength. I can associate with the one I want, but the networking icon still says no connection and internet does not work. There is no encryption or anything on the AP.
[05:10] <robert_> does anybody have any experience with using ldap as an authentication service?
[05:11] <gils> ok the problem with slow bootup due to network config is indeed in the interfaces file.
[05:11] <gils> i have just tried the workaround at launchpad,
[05:11] <valehru> ok...im getting kicked out of this coffee shop
[05:11] <valehru> later days..
[05:12] <gils> boots normally and no problems with network manager
[05:12] <Hobbsee> valehru: ^
[05:12] <Hobbsee> gils: yep.  see  /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian as to why
[05:13] <gils> thanks
[05:13] <gils> so basically the "interfaces" file should have nothing other than the 'lo' settings
[05:13] <gils> ?
[05:13] <gils> network manager does the rest
[05:13] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:14] <Hobbsee> unless you want dhclient ot manage it, of course
[05:14] <gils> yes
[05:15] <gils> you see, i was afraid that if  i commented out eth0, ath0, etc....that i would have to ifconfig them manually after boot up
[05:15] <Hobbsee> nope
[05:15] <Hobbsee> if you comment out both lines of each interface, nm will manage it
[05:15] <gils> well then why was this change done to the interfaces file to begin with
[05:15] <Hobbsee> ...
[05:16] <Hobbsee> it *wasnt*
[05:16] <gils> i dont follow?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> this has always happened
[05:16] <gils> oh really....
[05:16] <gils> good to know
[05:16] <Hobbsee> dhclient will always hang, if it cant ifup the interface, until it times out
[05:16] <gils> right
[05:17] <Hobbsee> and NM stops it
[05:17] <gils> yes but had just happened after upgrade to cause this hang that everyone is having...?
[05:17] <aaroncampbell> I'm going to be making a shared storage area for all the windows boxes on our network.  Would it be good practice to make a new user, and share their home directory with everyone?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> gils: no idea why everyone's reporting it now - iv'e been getting it for ages
[05:18] <Hobbsee> since edgy beta
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> it only just happened, for me.
[05:18] <gils> i think what happens is that in edgy after you installed NM the interfaces file had nothing but the loopback LO references
[05:19] <gils> with our recent upgrades interfaces file was rewritten with auto config for all devices.....NM i assume gets stuck here?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> but oh well
[05:20] <boojit> Hobbsee: hi, found what?
[05:20] <boojit> sorry I was away for a bit
[05:20] <Hobbsee> boojit: the solution
[05:20] <Hobbsee> see the backscroll
[05:20] <boojit> oh ok, is it that "clean out the interfaces file" thingy?
[05:20] <boojit> yepp checking
[05:21] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:21] <gils> well anyways boys and girls. it works perfectly fine now after leaving 'lo' alone with all the rest commmented out
[05:21] <boojit> ok screw it i'm going to try it now
[05:21] <boojit> brb with an update
[05:22] <gils> ok i have another question all together.....about desktop effects
[05:22] <eagles0513875> whats 64 bit support like with feisty
[05:22] <eagles0513875> j/w would there be a conflict if i install on 1 partition witha  64 bit os and another with a 32 bit os
[05:22] <gils> IF i enable the effects like wobble windows....i cannot play any videos. is there a work around for that
[05:23] <Hobbsee> gils: turn desktop effects off.  simple
[05:23] <shirish> hi guys, anybody know of a better, sexier looking music player than Rythmbox, as Rythmbox sucks
[05:23] <gils> Hobbesee: yes thanks :-) i figured that part out
[05:23] <Tomcat_> gils: You can change how your video player outputs videos.
[05:23] <Hobbsee> shirish: amarok
[05:23] <concept10> What's the difference between a sound server (Pulse Audio) and a media streaming API like Gstreamer.  The real question is why would I want to install and configure Pulse Audio?  What would pulse audio replace on the current desktop?
[05:23] <concept10> shirish, if you like GTK+, check out Exaile
[05:23] <Tomcat_> gils: Usually you need to change the output to xshm or xv or x11, no idea what is the best or default. :)
[05:23] <shirish> Hobbsee: does it need KDE or Gnome works?
[05:24] <shirish> concept10: u remember, yup :)
[05:24] <Hobbsee> shirish: it needs a whole lot of kde libs, but works on gnome
[05:24] <gils> Tomcat_: hmmm interesting...could you tell me more
[05:24] <eagles0513875> j/w would there be a conflict if i install on 1 partition witha  64 bit os and another with a 32 bit os
[05:25] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: shouldnt be, try it
[05:25] <Tomcat_> gils: That's about all there is to it.
[05:25] <shirish> guys I am getting this message The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[05:25] <shirish>   setserial libxcb1 wacom-tools libxcb-xlib0 are these packages safe to remove?
[05:25] <eagles0513875> i am
[05:26] <eagles0513875> if worse comes to worse i can put 64bit version of xp on
[05:26] <gils> ok
[05:26] <eagles0513875> before u ask Hobbsee only reason im putting windows on here again is so i can play world of warcraft
[05:26] <Hobbsee> ahh
[05:27] <eagles0513875> lol ive been told in wine hq channel that my video card is weak
[05:27] <eagles0513875> due to ati's crap video drivers
[05:27] <boojit> Hobbsee: yep thta seems to work
[05:27] <shirish> ah ok
[05:27] <boojit> s/thta/that
[05:27] <eagles0513875> what does one have to do to write ones own video driver
[05:28] <boojit> eagles0513875: that's a pretty broad question, don't you think?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> ...a lot...
[05:28] <eagles0513875> lol ya but im curious
[05:28] <eagles0513875> ive never done any programming like this before
[05:28] <boojit> the answer is: install vi and then start typing stuff into it
[05:28] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:28] <eagles0513875> what kinda stuff
[05:28] <boojit> you know -- video stuff
[05:29] <Hobbsee> i'd suggest you ask the people who code them for a living
[05:29] <eagles0513875> does anyone on here work for ati lol
[05:29] <Hobbsee> uh, no
[05:33] <eagles0513875> ohhh found source code
[05:35] <shirish> concept10: u still here?
[05:36] <shirish> anybody else has worked/played with exaile?
[05:36] <shirish> !info exaile
[05:37] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[05:37] <smo> hi all
[05:37] <smo> anyone know if fglrx from ati .run compile fine on 2.6.20 now on fesity?
[05:38] <shirish> eagles0513875: there is already an X.org foundation which is doing lot of driver-tinkering, if u want u should read their stuff
[05:38] <concept10> shirish, what about it?
[05:38] <eagles0513875> ok ty shirish
[05:38] <shirish> concept10: I tried the mini-mode, CTRL+ALT+M, is it supposed to be movable, the bar or just sits in that position?
[05:39] <concept10> use ALT and left mouse button
[05:40] <concept10> shirish, all GTK windows should work that way
[05:40] <shirish> concept10: tht works, cool :P
[05:40] <Poul^Laptop> How do i give this user premission to write to /usr/share/vim/ and all sub folders?
[05:40] <shirish> concept10: just had no idea
[05:41] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, are you adding some VIM plugin or something?
[05:41] <Poul^Laptop> yes
[05:41] <shirish> concept10: bad with keyboard shortcuts :(
[05:41] <Poul^Laptop> concept10, yes
[05:42] <b33j0r> I've gotten my wireless to work with an alternate method, but is there a way to make the network notifcation icon synchronize? (i.e. show that there is a connection? it still says no connection)
[05:42] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, just add them to your home directory.  There is a hidden folder called .vim/plugins , etc
[05:42] <Poul^Laptop> no thers not
[05:43] <Poul^Laptop> concept10, i tryed but the running patch thing is the one in usr/ so it dont work when i make .vim and put it there
[05:44] <concept10> you should have already had the .vim folder
[05:44] <Poul^Laptop> as said i dont :)
[05:44] <shirish> ok do we have gmailfs in any of the repositories?
[05:44] <eagles0513875> i dunno why when i do a dist upgrade from edgy to feisty i dunno y i encounted so many problems
[05:45] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, anyway, if you want to do it some other way, just use sudo
[05:45] <eagles0513875> do u have the edgy repositories shirish
[05:45] <eagles0513875> i know its in one of those
[05:45] <shirish> nope the fiesty one
[05:45] <eagles0513875> that i dunno
[05:46] <Poul^Laptop> concept10, you know the command fo giving right write permission to the folder?
[05:46] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, chmod
[05:46] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, or man chmod
[05:46] <Poul^Laptop> chmod -r /usr/share/vim/ ?
[05:48] <Poul^Laptop> dont give me write permission :(
[05:48] <concept10> I told you to just use sudo
[05:48] <Poul^Laptop> concept10, sorry but why wont you just tell me what i ask instead :(
[05:49] <concept10> chmod +x
[05:49] <Poul^Laptop> thx
[05:49] <concept10> oops, thats execute
[05:50] <Poul^Laptop> still dont have acces :P
[05:50] <shirish> bbl guys :)
[05:50] <concept10> I meant w
[05:51] <Poul^Laptop> do i need to add -r also to get all the sub folders?
[05:51] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, The reason I would not just tell you is because, there are many means to accomplish what you want.  You could have just used root permissions to do this, or install this in your home directory
[05:52] <Poul^Laptop> the home folder thing did not work as i said. I just wanted to copy the files fast over by using the GUI, but ye gonna do the sudo cp now as the write premission dont work either
[05:53] <Stormx2> Can I stop the upgrade process?
[05:54] <concept10> Poul^Laptop, where did you install vim from?
[05:54] <Poul^Laptop> package manager
[05:55] <Poul^Laptop> but the chmod thing before fucked it all up now, cant see the content of the folder now. anyway to set it back?
[05:55] <concept10> Use root permissions!
[05:56] <Poul^Laptop> I AM
[05:56] <Poul^Laptop> !!!
[05:57] <SlimeyPete> as root, chmod a+rwx <folder>
[05:57] <concept10> thats why you do configs and stuff like that in your home directory
[05:57] <SlimeyPete> mmm... use your ~/.vimrc :)
[05:57] <Poul^Laptop> or if i did the right things instead of chmod wronge things. thx SlimeyPete
[05:58] <Poul^Laptop> SlimeyPete,  the .vimrc do work - but when putting things into .vim nothing of that work
[05:58] <smo> can i update to feisty without any problems now??
[05:58] <smo> i still not sure
[05:58] <smo> or
[05:58] <SlimeyPete> smo: um. Maybe. Can't guarantee anything but I've been using it for abou two weeks without any insurmountable problems.
[05:59] <smo>  you know if website ati driver compile fine now with 2.6.20?
[06:00] <SlimeyPete> no idea, sorry. The standard Ubuntu ATI driver package works fine for me.
[06:01] <smo> version?
[06:02] <SlimeyPete> Version: 7.1.0-8.34.8+<IP_ADDRESS>-13.14
[06:02] <eagles0513875> what kernel version r they using with feisty
[06:02] <SlimeyPete> 2.6.20 atm
[06:02] <smo> 8.34
[06:03] <smo> ok
[06:04] <concept10> I thought vim always made a .vim/ folder
[06:05] <Poul^Laptop> SlimeyPete, I got the files copyed to the folders now   <http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=195> trying to install that as eksample.    The install directions say "Install in .vim".  You seem bitter.  Good Luck and Good Night.
[06:09] <eagles0513875> anyoone work with clusters
[06:09] <Poul^Laptop> concept10, night
[06:10] <nixnoob1> what time are they gonna drop herd 6?
[06:10] <iarwain> hiya, back again =)
[06:11] <Hobbsee> nixnoob1: it's cancelled
[06:11] <iarwain> anyone know why i don't have any keyboard layouts available? (KDE)
[06:11] <smo> damn 331 mo more on dist-upgrade
[06:11] <nixnoob1> why? who said that why havent i heard
[06:12] <Hobbsee> nixnoob1: ubuntu devel mailing list, because RC is RSN, and easter
[06:12] <Hobbsee> (so people are taking time off)
[06:12] <Poul^Laptop> After added a plugin to the plugin folder in vim - do i need to do anything to start it? or is it just automatic loaded next time i use vim?
[06:12] <lupine_85> time off? What's that? ;)
[06:12] <Hobbsee> something i dont get
[06:12] <lupine_85> no, me neither
[06:12] <lupine_85> but since I don't celebrate easter it's not a biggie for me
[06:12] <nixnoob1> the beta 1 live cd wont even boot in my laptop i was hoping herd6 would fix it
[06:13] <nixnoob1> aparently i will have to wait 2 more weeks
[06:14] <ep2011> is the fiesty cd the same as edgy in the sense of installing? Like can you resize partitions, etc
[06:14] <nixnoob1> yes
[06:14] <cliebow> i believge so
[06:14] <ep2011> Okay, thanks
[06:15] <ep2011> and if my edgy installation is messed up, and im going to reinstall, should I just install fiesty beta and then upgrade when it releases?
[06:15] <nixnoob1> im sad
[06:15] <nixnoob1> ep2011 yes
[06:15] <Pici> ep2011: Up to you, beta is beta and you may encounter bugs.
[06:16] <nixnoob1> you can just keep up to date and it will BE final
[06:16] <ep2011> one last question - does any use the RT61 with fiesty? supposily it would be supported with fiesty, it isnt with edgy
[06:16] <Bonez56> hi, im trying to install w32codecs, but it says the package is not available, anyone able to help?
[06:16] <ep2011> (wireless card)
[06:17] <iarwain> anyone know why i don't have any keyboard layouts available? (KDE)
[06:17] <pet2> Hi! Has anyone experience with the Feisty Beta on a T43 Thinkpad?
[06:17] <SlimeyPete> Bonez56: try googling for ftp.nerim.net and add that to your apt sources
[06:17] <SlimeyPete> w32codecs was available from there last time I checked
[06:18] <Bonez56> SlimeyPete, ok... i didnt need to do that the other day when I installed my laptop
[06:18] <eagles0513875> !aPT-fix
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <eagles0513875> !aPTfix
[06:18] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:18] <SlimeyPete> oh right. Maybe w32codecs is in Restricted, then?
[06:18] <SlimeyPete> try turning on the restricted repository?
[06:19] <Bonez56> SlimeyPete, let me just checkl now
[06:19] <finalbeta> !w32codecs
[06:19] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:19] <Bonez56> yeah I have feisty main restricted
[06:19] <nixnoob1> blah blah
[06:20] <nixnoob1> i r so mad
[06:21] <darkphader> will running "aptitude update" followed by "aptitude dist-upgrade" bring the beta to release?
[06:22] <tgelter> hey everyone - question:       I realize that linux-686-smp is obsoleted by linux-generic...     I would be fine sticking with linux-generic but when I install nvidia-glx, it switches me to a non-SMP kernel, linux-386, how can I have both nvidia-glx installed while also having dual-core support for my cpu via SMP?
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> Bonez56: don't mean to patronise but you did remember to reload your package lists after adding Restricted?
[06:22] <Death_Sargent> I removed something called "network something" (not verbatum quote) from my startup and now my wifi does not work
[06:23] <Death_Sargent> could some one tell me what the program is so i can add it again
[06:23] <teb> NetworkManager ?
[06:23] <Death_Sargent> yes
[06:23] <cliebow> try knetworkmanager
[06:23] <Death_Sargent> i use ubuntu not kubuntu
[06:23] <teb> yeah sudo NetworkManager &
[06:24] <teb> or add it to your startup
[06:24] <eagles0513875> i figured out why i keept getting a dpkg error
[06:24] <eagles0513875> i didnt do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:24] <zdzichuBG> sudo  sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager start
[06:25] <Bonez56> SlimeyPete, yeah I have done that
[06:25] <Bonez56> SlimeyPete, I am able to access other restricted packages
[06:27] <SlimeyPete> Bonez56: hmmm... actually yeah, I just looked and I can't see them either.
[06:27] <shirish> ok who are ubuntu motu?
[06:28] <Bonez56> SlimeyPete, they were there about a week ago when I installed fiesty on my laptop... :( now i just installed it on my desktop but can't locate the codecs
[06:29] <eagles0513875> is there a c++ channel
[06:29] <finalbeta> omg
[06:29] <finalbeta> Yeah ##c++
[06:29] <eagles0513875> ty
[06:29] <lupine_85> the MOTU are your Gods(tm)
[06:30] <shawnr> hey everyone, I see a update to nvidia legacy glx driver.... is this going to fix our issues!?
[06:30] <Death_Sargent> ok none of those worked
[06:30] <shirish> lupine_85 if there is a universal package & they are the maintainers, in case if I want them to upgrade the package, what should I do?
[06:30] <lupine_85> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOTU
[06:31] <lupine_85> you could ask for them to upgrade it in a bug report, but it's unlikely it'll get into feisty
[06:31] <shirish><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:32] <Death_Sargent> yeah im still kicen a dead horse hear
[06:33] <SlimeyPete> I'd eat it, if I were you. Waste not, want not.
[06:34] <Death_Sargent> listen i have the old manager from  edgy working
[06:34] <effie_jayx> anyone usng a broadcome wireless card on feisty :S???
[06:34] <eagles0513875> haha i have one
[06:34] <shawnr> effie_jayx, i did but managed to fix it
[06:34] <Death_Sargent> its the new one that looks like a cellphone signal indicator that is missing
[06:34] <eagles0513875> but it doesnt work out of box like they say it should
[06:34] <shawnr> broadcom
[06:35] <eagles0513875> ya i have a 43xx one
[06:35] <eagles0513875> isnt it supposed to work out of the box wiht this release
[06:35] <shawnr> think i have the same thing, let me check
[06:35] <effie_jayx> I know but I can't use a wpa passkey... I git the card to work
[06:35] <eagles0513875> how did u get the card to work
[06:35] <eagles0513875> did it work out of box or did u have to use ndiswrapper
[06:35] <shawnr> ndiswrapper
[06:36] <shawnr> but its easy and works like a charm
[06:36] <eagles0513875> really
[06:36] <shawnr> install the front end for ndiswrapper
[06:36] <eagles0513875> with edgy took me a good part of day to get mine workin
[06:36] <shawnr> i can send you the driver if you want
[06:36] <eagles0513875> shawn can u add me as a friend cuz im going to do a clean install
[06:36] <eagles0513875> its ok i have it on my flash drive
[06:36] <eagles0513875> i need to rework my partitions
[06:36] <effie_jayx> eagles0513875,  I used ndiswrapper as well
[06:37] <shawnr> just have to make sure you blacklist the default broadcom drivers then restart
[06:37] <Death_Sargent> wifi still does not work
[06:38] <effie_jayx> shawnr,  are you what kind of passkey are you using? wep or wpa?
[06:38] <eagles0513875> effie_jayx:
[06:38] <eagles0513875> did u use the front end
[06:38] <effie_jayx> I used both
[06:39] <eagles0513875> whats the front end like
[06:39] <effie_jayx> I isntalled through terminal ... then I installed ndiswraper utils
[06:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:39] <effie_jayx> pretty simple... it shows you the drivers installed
[06:39] <eagles0513875> ok then what u do after that
[06:39] <shawnr> eagles0513875, just search for ndiswrapper and you will find the front end
[06:39] <effie_jayx> and you can add or remove through buttons
[06:39] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:39] <eagles0513875> did u have to do anything after that
[06:40] <Hidan> hey anyone encountered this problem before under Feisty? Feisty crashes and your caps lock +scroll lock keys start blinking
[06:40] <shawnr> eagles0513875, blacklist the broadcom driver that that comes with feisty install
[06:40] <eagles0513875> ok how would i do that
[06:41] <Death_Sargent> how do i run the DHCP cleint
[06:41] <eagles0513875> that automatically runs once u log in
[06:41] <tonetheman> anyone know where i can try to look up bugs... before i start asking questions here... i cannot find it on the wiki
[06:42] <Death_Sargent> well I opened up kwifi and it sais im connected at 54mbps to nothing on vhsnrl 6 with no IP
[06:42] <shawnr> echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:42] <decaf> hi, on feisty, when I enable desktop effects, windows decorations dissappear
[06:42] <shawnr> eagles0513875, echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:42] <shawnr> if thats your driver
[06:43] <eagles0513875> ty im goign to email that to myself
[06:43] <Death_Sargent> i mean it sais im connected to nothing at 54mbps and have no local IP
[06:43] <sioux> >/(
[06:43] <sioux> hi
[06:43] <Death_Sargent> sith a signal strenth of 60-70 and on chanel 6
[06:43] <shawnr> how can i check nvidia version from the terminal
[06:43] <shawnr> ?
[06:44] <shawnr> anyone?
[06:44] <sioux> ubuntu or kubuntu...
[06:44] <Death_Sargent> glxinfo i think
[06:45] <shawnr> lol.....    Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:45] <shawnr> damn legacy drivers
[06:45] <sioux> when fresty final?
[06:45] <shawnr> im downloading a legacy update now, hope this fixes some issues
[06:46] <Death_Sargent> 2weeks
[06:46] <shawnr> ;p
[06:46] <Death_Sargent> i still getting fucked on my wifi