 @UniversalSuperBox, Omg, now that the appimage run fine, I can't boot my device..
 Seems bricked
 No it booted
 @exar_kun, lol
 @exar_kun, did you make that?
 No, it doesn't boot normally, it have problems
 💀 RIP
 What problem ? Your phone? Do you finally managed to flash it?
 @malditobastardo, No, I finally have UB installer working, but my phone doesn't boot in any way
 @Akira_rulezZ, When that started to happen exactly?
 Few minutes ago
 When I tried to reboot into fastboot mode
 I think it's broken
 All this work for nothing
 Did it boot before?
 It's almost impossible that your device is bricked
 What phone do you have?
 I think it was a Bq 4.5?
 Not sure. Just saying
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 Uuuuhhhh It booted suddenly
 UB installer is working
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Bfdq4BiV/file_1341.jpg
 Finger crossed
 First time takes some time.
 I have a BQ E5
 @Akira_rulezZ, You have to be patient man. You are freakin out a lot 🙀😹
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 @malditobastardo, No, before when I've tried to boot, the screen flashed and then turned off
 I have a lot of patience, I modded a lot of Android devices, but I've never had so much problems
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/mjfwp6UD/file_1342
 @Akira_rulezZ, From now on install ubuntu dual boot and start learning. You will need it after all of this :)
 Windows = problems
 @malditobastardo, I'm planning to do it, but I need support do do it correctly
 @malditobastardo, I've never had any, for real, I play games too, but I never had any problem with Windows
 Until today :)
 @malditobastardo, 😂😂😂 no, the dev told me it's a driver problem when UB installer hasn't worked 😂
 I'm trying to switch to Linux on PC and Sailfish on mobile, but I like Ubuntu Touch too, that's why I've bought a device
 Is it normal to have all accounts and apps still in the phone after reboot?
 Hey guys, I have a OPO that want to be a guinea pig for the various options around, and one of these options is Ubport, do you know if it's possible to have some sort of multirom to have more than one os on the phone and choose one at the start?
 @deedend, No
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Thanks
 @elavdeveloper, Why there is mplayer in there?😳
 Good morning, how can I see if I have UBports on my BQ? After flash I still have all my accounts, I though my device should be wiped
 And how can I get an app store? I've heard there is an unofficial
 @Akira_rulezZ, You can go into system settings and look at 'About' but if you have been successful you will find OpenStore already among your apps
 @Stereofont, So, yesssss 😬😬😬
 I'm on UBports 😬✌
 🍓🍓🍓
[06:12] <tgBot> Uvneshkumar was added by: Uvneshkumar
 You can still use UbuntuStore but it is not supported and will close soon. In OpenStore you will find e.g. Dekko2 and uMatriks
 Look also for the installed UBports app
 In system settings you can choose a version but it sounds like Stable is best for you at the moment
 I think you have a phone? There is a flashlight now on the pull-down menu
 There is an adblock app if you want one
 @Uvneshkumar, welcome
 Thank you all for support, it was a bit hard and frustrating, but now it's done
 @vanyasem, Thanks. Nice to be here..!
 I see the Telegram app doesn't supports supergroups, right?
 Fwd from Flohack: We will roll out supergroups asap, and not waste more time with other features
 @harishsays, Good to know, thank you and what about web whatsapp?
 How to use whatsapp in UT?
 @Akira_rulezZ, You can use the web version for that but supergroup support is only weeks away
 @mohammadrazis, There is an app for that. I have no use for it but it seems there are lots of difficulties with it. Best is not to use WhatsApp 😎
 LoquilM app
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/NPRLhBzM/file_1344.jpg
 I can't turn off my device 😂
 Touch didn't respond on menu
 @Stereofont, Thanks.
 Today after work I will try To setup Everything For my needs and to use as a primary device
 @Akira_rulezZ, Maybe that will correct after the first reboot
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 @Stereofont, 😬👍
 @Akira_rulezZ, There is a 'disappearing keyboard' issue if you move between apps but that will also be fixed soon
 I'm trying to install gedit on my phone by terminal but of course I get an error because it states it cannot save files in var/cache/apt being the filesystem only read mode....my question is, if I force the system to be writable and I install gedit, could it be potentially harmful for the whole phone functionality and future OTA updates?
 It could break OTA, yes
 It's for this reason we use containers
 @TronFourtyTwo, Ok, thank you for the answer. So how can I install gedit from terminal, routing the installation to a container like Libertine, guessing I have this already created?
 @Matteo, https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/Libertine%3A-install-and-manage-desktop-applications
 Grazie Emanuele! I'll try to follow the instructions
 Are the apps in containers able to exchange data via content hub or copy-paste to outside the container? And do I have access to the ut home folder?
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 @Stereofont, I've found it when I've tried to configure Dekko2 😬
[10:22] <tgBot> Willem-Jan de Hoog was added by: Willem-Jan de Hoog
[10:24] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> hi. I am trying to create a zip that installs ubuntu touch on my phone (oneplus one). It boots but no UI. I can get a adb shell but don't really know what to do next.
[10:24] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> dmesg shows: init: ureadahead-touch main process terminated with status 5
[10:30] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> also: init: /init.environ.rc: 13: export requires 2 arguments
[10:31] <tgBot> Haatim Sayed was added by: Haatim Sayed
 @Haatim Sayed, welcome
 Hi, I'm not able to download any apps from open store, have I to do something?
[10:45] <wdehoog>  hi. I am trying to create a zip that installs ubuntu touch on my phone (oneplus one). It boots but no UI. I can get a adb shell but don't really know what to do next.
 @wdehoog, I suggest you join the Telegram group. It is possible to install the old Canonical version using an img but not the UBport version
 @Akira_rulezZ, Strange. Are you out of storage?
 @Stereofont, Oh, I've solved with a reboot 😬
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, There is already cpt installer to install ut.
 But when I try to configure Dekko2 I can't because keyboard doesn't show
 Pull the top indicator panel down a little then close it and the keyboard should come up
 I believe this is fixed in the devel channel
 (Photo, 1280x768) https://irc.ubports.com/cQCU0qZy/file_1346.jpg
 wayland client on mir on X
 i think :))
[11:43] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> what is cpt installer?
[11:44] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I create the zip from the downloads from the jenkins server. Why would it not work?
 UT is more than just an android mod
 I have another issue with LoquiIM, I get Decrypt error on all chats
 @Akira_rulezZ, Join loqui telegram group
 @malditobastardo, Have you a link?
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, https://ubports.com/page/ubuntu-oneplus-one you can find method to install ut. Also ctrl+f for cpt
[12:16] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh yes I want ubports touch on my phone but not with an installer. I don't know what it does and like to keep what is already on it. Besides I have no adb access when in recovery mode. (unauthorized).
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, You will have to format it. Without format you cannot install ut
 @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh, it's open source you can analiza it before run it
 @Akira_rulezZ, https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAk1L0lOiRPuM02yxQ
 The installer will format and install.
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, I meant answer him, sorry 😒
 I understand 😁
[12:19] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I guess only boot needs to be formatted. The rest is still one file /data/system.img isn't it?
[12:20] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> so I try to create this /data/system.img
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Knock yourself out. Buy please take backup before that. You might regret if you did not take backup.
[12:22] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> because I will use this system.img I do not have to create a backup. yes of the boot partition but not of the rest.
 @Alexander, Thank you 😬👍
 I think I know enough that is why suggesting you to take backup. And use Ubuntu installer. But I consider myself noob. So if you are sure what you are doing might work.  please go ahead.
[12:28] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh I appreciate your help. I already posted my questions on the forum but someone said I should join the telegram group.
 Anyone here interested in using markdown in emails?
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Okay then wait for around 5 more hours .. core developers are sleeping at the moment i think. You will see more grup activity by Then . Then you should ask
[12:32] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh thanks!
 @DanChapman, in dekko.
 ?
 Yeah 😊
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7P5hmjTD/file_1348.png
 I partially implemented it a while back and i'm wondering if anyone would actually use it if i finished it off, if not i'm just going to pull it out of the source tree
 @DanChapman looks good. But I am far far away from using email on ut right now.
 For some reason the group is awfully quite today.
 everyone is in our OT chat 😂
 @mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh, I don't have idea. 😂
[12:54] <tgBot> Kiran kr. Reddy was added by: Kiran kr. Reddy
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[12:55] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> Good evening Ubuntu touch..
 Welcome Kiran kr.
[12:56] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> Thnx Dan.
[12:57] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> I have question.. May I ask here regarding oneplus one
[13:00] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> Oneplus one has soc 801 snapdragon. 801 snapdragon supports HD calling volte. If I install Ubuntu touch in oneplus1 then will it support my volte 4g sim.. ?
[13:01] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> ok got it working. ubport running on my phone.
[13:01] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> how can I check what version is installed?
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, Sytem settings -> about (at the bottom of the page) -> and then you have got everything you need to know ;)
[13:05] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @Alexander, It shows 'ubuntu OnePlus bacon' and IMEI etc. but not ubports version
[13:09] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> Hey Willem-Jan  how did u installed Ubuntu on oneplus.. Using multirom or dirtyflashed.. ? Please reply.
[13:10] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> I tried using multirom but didn't booted ..no success
 multirom isn't supported. The only option is to flash
[13:12] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> Ok.. Will try to flash.
 👍
[13:13] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @Kiran kr. Reddy, I don't know what dirtyflash means. I made a backup of my boot partition which I have to restore when going back to normal. The zip I made flashes the ubports boot.img.
[13:15] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I will make another backup of the current boot (ubports) so to switch from normal (multiron) to ubports I have to restore the ubports backup of the boot partition.
 Anyone using UBports in Nexus 4, could you check your "Baseband version" from fastboot mode? Seems like everybody else have working GPS besides me.. I just wanna check if that could be reason.. My baseband is "M9615A-CEFWMAZM-2.0.1701.03"
[13:29] <tgBot> <Kiran kr. Reddy> 👍
[13:30] <tgBot> Gerhard Faber was added by: Gerhard Faber
 There should be a sticky saying "multirom is not supported" 😺
 @samitormanen, Gps takes a few minutes before start to work
 @malditobastardo, 10minutes isn't enough, and even 1hour doesn't get fix
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, There should be an r. number = revision. On the forum there is a list of revisions for each port
[13:45] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> @Stereofont, Not on my display. Only serial, IMEI, wifi mac, bt mac, storage, licenses and dev mode
 Could this be reason.. http://www.gaggl.com/2014/01/ubuntu-touch-install-on-nexus-4/
 I did have 4.4.4 before UT install
 @wayneoutthere, That was... oddly reassuring
[14:19] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> How is fairphone2 environment goin? I just bought it to install ubuntu, but i got the version with android 6 imao -.-
 You can run builds from the devel channel and the screen will work. The camera is proving to be more tricky
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog, It should also be right next to where it says "Ubuntu Touch" if I remember right.
[14:23] <tgBot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> ubuntu-touch uses path /data/system.img and unfortunately plasma-mobile as well. Does anybody know how to easily have them coexist?
[14:23] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Oh perfect thats fine, i dont want the cam to work :) I will try thank you
[14:26] <tgBot> <Chris Clime> @mariogrip, Hi Marius, how in general do you recommend compiling oxide for armhf ? With some modifications I was able to build it locally for x64 on debian testing (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oxide/BuildInstructions) but I'm struggling with [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oxide/ArmCrossCompiling], Do you recommend using a chroot or lxc, or can cross compiling be done without it ? Does the container have to be vivid in order to build for 15.04 stable, or can
[14:26] <tgBot> it be 16.04 ?
[14:50] <tgBot> LloydAlmeida was added by: LloydAlmeida
 Sorry stupid questions, but I can't find it from google. Is radio firmware (baseband modem) bundled with UBports image OR is there any difference if I install UBports over Jellybean, Kitkat,Lollipop?
 There should be no difference. We don't rewrite the radio.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Ok. Thanks. Maybe I should try different radio firmware to my mako. Jellybean and kitkat have different radios..
 I hope it resolves my gps issue
 Can I do it like this: download 4.3 factory image > extract it > phone in fastboot mode > fastboot flash radio new.radio.firmware.img ?
 Probably, but I don't want to give bad advice that can end up bricking your phone.
 Is it safer if install android 4.3 and then install ubports?
 It's about the same as any factory image.
 Check out the flash-all script, see how it does it
 Ok
 (Photo, 800x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/MSXqm3vc/file_1350.jpg
 Cool. That should work. As always, at your own risk. :)
 I try to get that Nexus4 to my wife. She wants to try ubports.. But without working gps it is useless for her..
[15:29] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> uhm... how to find the dev channel repo for fp2?
 Hmm?
[15:36] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> ouch 😆 nvm
 You can change your channel before installing in the UBports Installer
[15:38] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yib sorry i found it
[15:38] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> now it says a password is needed, but i didnt set one
[15:39] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> im actually on fp2 android 6 open version
 That's your password on the computer
 Fwd from jsalatas: Anyway.... I'm currently stuck with the oxide web engine trying to figure out how it works and eventualy update it to a newer version of chromium and port it to gcc7.
 Fwd from jsalatas: It's the web engine for the web browser app. Actually more or less a qt wrapper arround chromium
 Fwd from jsalatas: I don't know what they are doing :) … Actually my primary concern know is to understand the oxide-qt engine and eventualy be able to either update it to a newer chromium version or (I doubt that this would be easy) completely replace oxide-qt with Qt's qtwebengine implementation. … In any case I'll try to find some time to talk to UBPorts guys and see what they're up to. I haven't talked to them since the Qt 5.9 thing ;)
[15:47] <tgBot> Thanks!!!
 Fwd from jsalatas: Actually even bigger would be the milestone of porting to gcc7, and so to ubuntu 17.10 and debian sid.  … After that I guess i'll have some time (without any porting) to see other issues like setting up a CI environment and moving forward with the actual code, because until now most was just porting ;)
 It really worth investing so much time and effort optimizing the browser?
[15:58] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> is there any trick to get fp2 into the bootloader? i tried 10x times now all what i get is a blacksreen saying: FAIRPHONE, powered by Android
 @malditobastardo, Thx for the info, it's been a long since last time John Salatas told us that the porting to Qt 5.9 was almost done. … About oxide I also don't know. Maybe for phones oxide it's a good option, but for desktop... I really don't know
 @UniversalSuperBox, I flashed older radio firmware, from android 4.3 and now N4 GPS is working! Yay! Of course I have to test it more but cold start fix took ~9min and warm start fix ~30sec 😎
 And it test was now indoors..
 @j2g2rp, Yeah exactly. But I understand if he/they are doing some kind of research for themselves. Like to experiment etc
 But I think that is a waste of time in a desktop environment
 As you said. But well. Even with UBports
 With the port of 16.04 it should be easier to implement the mobile version of Firefox. I think.
 But to be honest I am not an expert. I am a flight pilot 😹
 as some developers says (i'm not a developer) chromium based web browsers (like oxide) are better option to arm arch based devices  because it's faster in that arch. … Oxide it's a good thing to achieve the goal of convergence. Far from that I don't know more reasons 😆 … More that one year ago I tried to use oxide in desktop and it was a pain compared to firefox or chromium, maybe because of ads and other things that users usually blocks with ex
 talking about oxide and webbrowsers. Any news about broken oxide upgrade?
 just curious
 @j2g2rp, I knew the porting to qt 5.9 was complete: https://yunit.io/yunit-project-updates-20170917/
 @j2g2rp, You are right. Good point. About convergence etc.
 @j2g2rp, I don't know too much sadly.
[16:25] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> what can i do? ubports installer dont recognize my phone. Fairphone2 with the stock Open Android 6, usb-debug and bootloader are active
[16:26] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> I am on ubuntu 17
 Since i'm not owner of a fairphone i don't know anything about it, just i heard (not sure if it was in fairphone) that depending of the version of android it could fail. … Just about your version of ubuntu. If it's 17.10 maybe it won't works. I don't know if 17.10 have all packages of adb and the others...
 I think there is an appimage of the installer so you really don't need any special dependencies
[16:39] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i dont understand what you say about "appimage" sorry^^ just tried to apt install adb, buut no changes...
[16:39] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> the guis is waiting for device, the terminal prints says repeatly: "debug: adb shell: echo 1"
[16:40] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> and when i choose manually terminal says: "debug: fastboot: wait for device"
 @Marty McFly, Probably worth trying on a 16.04 machine and preferably one with 2.0 usb
 Also try obvious things like several different data cables
[16:46] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i am wondering, when i connect, the buld a mtp connection. i this okay?
[16:46] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i am wondering, when i connect, they build a mtp connection. is this okay?
 of course you are in fastboot mode didn't you? … Also check two things: …       1. your usb wire it's fine. …       2. you are not using a usb hub. Connect it directly
[16:49] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> how to get in fastboot mode? just activated usb-debugging like the installer advised me
[16:50] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yes my wire is fine and i can connect the phone. as i said phone and computer build up an mtp connection
 not sure how it's on fairphone. In BQ you should restart your device presing also volume up, and then select fastboot
[16:51] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> adb is not choosable in the usb options
[16:54] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> when im going to bootloader, i just see the fairphone logo, but google says its normal.
 https://ubports.com/page/ubuntu-fairphone-2
 (Photo, 385x133) https://irc.ubports.com/OH0JUUHC/file_1352.jpg
[16:58] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> oh this is meaned the installer? i thought its just printed there cuz the camera.
[17:00] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> mhh... and what way i can solve it now?
[17:01] <tgBot> Kristijan Krsteski was added by: Kristijan Krsteski
 I don't know if you'll can do anything with that. … Don't know if a downgrade version is possible or if there is also some new hardware that can't be managed by the os in 6.0 version.
 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/596/fairphone-with-android-6-0-marshmallow
 It's important to read before doing anything
[17:06] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> so what i understand out of this links, i need the cam and display from old fp2, install the devels version and then i can change my hardware back?
 that's what i'm reading in github link, but they are talking about android 6.1. Is it your version?
[17:10] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i have android 6.0.1. i found this comment: @tforgione The UBports installer already has support for the new screen. but you need to install the devel channel since there is where the changes are pushed to. rc and stable will get the fix later
[17:11] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> so the phone version should be the reason for my connection problem
[17:11] <tgBot> sambuccid was added by: sambuccid
[17:12] <tgBot> Mujahid119 was added by: Mujahid119
 @Marty McFly, It never changes. Fastboot has no interface.
 i'm not sure about that, looks like the other people managed to preinstall ubports but got stucked with a "blue screen of death" during startup instalation. … in your case cpt is awaiting to phone in fastboot
 Again, the screen fix is in devel.
 It's not in stable, so the warning stays on the website.
[17:16] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yes Dalton i got that. it should be a adb problem correct?
 On windows or Linux?
[17:16] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> Ubuntu 17
 Oh.
 Alright, so there is a bug.
 Thanks for confirming. ;)
[17:17] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> can i check adb anyway?
[17:17] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> im not sure if the problem is on ubports side
[17:18] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> you are from team?
[17:31] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> List of devices attached … adb server version (39) doesn't match this client (36); killing...
[17:31] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> could this be the reason? i need to downgrade my adb?
 it's 17.10 or 17.04
[18:01] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> 17.04
[18:02] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> but after some tries i did enter: sudo apt-get install adb
 strange, i used mdt three months ago
[18:02] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> so may my adb is like ubuntu 17.10 idk
 in 17.04, so it also should work
[18:02] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> mdt?
 it's another snap to flash it
 magic device tool
 @Marty McFly, You were coming from Android? I assume that you got developer status and allowed debugging and switched from charging mode?
 don't know if it's supports fairphohe 2
 (Photo, 729x465) https://irc.ubports.com/zayDaaY5/file_1354.jpg
[18:07] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> oh that looks nice. i would like to try, but i dont know how to download the devels rom. @ Lion: no i never used Smarthphones cuz i dont accept Google Privacy Bull****
 it should have developer mode enabled in android?
[18:10] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> can you tell me where to download the actual devels rom and a tutorial for the magic device tool ?
[18:10] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yep dev-mode is needed
 @Marty McFly, Did you tap build number seven times?
[18:11] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i didnt counted lol. why?
 @Marty McFly, Sorry I wasn't clear you had done that 😎
 no tutorial is needed … you can install it with  … sudo snap install magic-device-tool —devmode
[18:12] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> ah okay :)
 (Photo, 925x391) https://irc.ubports.com/DD7b9voA/file_1356.jpg
 https://github.com/MariusQuabeck/magic-device-tool
[18:16] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> thanks! and where i get the newest devels rom?
[18:18] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> oh i thought its a rom installer. i tries to autodownload hu? cuz ich need the devels version and there is just the legacy choosable... hrrr hrrr
 @Marty McFly, You can switch to that on the phone once you have stable installed
[18:26] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> via my desktop? cuz screen wont work in stable version
 No. In system settings on the phone
 Oh I see. I didn't have that problem. So you need to borrow a first edition screen maybe …
[18:30] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yea this is the only known solution for me but i think there must be a better way^^ and it lokks like im the only one where the ub installer isnt working, so i have any other problem to be solved.
 Where can I find app spesific logs? Like Camera app.
[18:32] <tgBot> Justus Bebeng was added by: Justus Bebeng
 @samitormanen, Not sure if there are specific log files for each app, but I was once instructed to do this for the camera logs: … adb shell "/android/system/bin/logcat -d" >cameralogcat.log … adb shell "dmesg" >cameradmesg.log … Provided that you open and run the camera app there could be some data produced by doing that.
 @Marty McFly, did you tried through mdt?
[18:41] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> no my phone would be like bricked or not
[18:42] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> cuz mdt just have legacy version
[18:42] <tgBot> bunia was added by: bunia
 I had most success with CPT
[18:42] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> never heard about
 https://ubports.com/r/downloads-cpt-linux
 Another alternative to the UBports installer
 From this page: https://ubports.com/page/ubuntu-fairphone-2
[18:47] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i tried chmod +x and ./file.deb but got an error :) can yo tell me the usage?
[18:48] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> syntax error near unexpected token `newline' … ./cpt_0.5.0_all.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'
 @Marty McFly, Oops, well on Ubuntu the deb installs via "Ubuntu software" or dpkg -i pakname.deb , then you can run the app through the gui. it will guide you through Ubuntu Touch installation and flash it etc.
 I guess not so useful on arch ...?
 It's very similar to the UBports installer
 @exar_kun, Ok. Thanks!
[18:55] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> when i do this i get in a junge of missing dependencies, can i autoniclude them?
[18:56] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i mean the "dpkg -i pakname.deb"
 I thought normally it will do that, but that's beyond my knowledge. It does seem to be using python though.
[19:01] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> iamo what a hard job today :) C P T is in long?
[19:07] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> lol i dont get it started. i think its fully installed but what i type now? just "cpt" is uknown
[20:03] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> iǘe found the code segment where the rom location is spezified, can i just change this adress to http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-fp2/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/device_FP2_devel.tar.xz and my device will directly boot the devels version?
[21:05] <ubports_bot> Project daily-bacon build #307: SUCCESS in 14 min: http://ci.ubports.com/job/daily-bacon/307/
[21:06] <ubports_bot> Project ota-push build #1199: SUCCESS in 1 min 1 sec: http://ci.ubports.com/job/ota-push/1199/
 Anybody knows how to solve that age-old nonsense of Ubuntu Touch copying a video file when playing it?
 @Marty McFly, Were you able to get it installed?
 Also, is apt upgrade safe?
[21:57] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> no i am still trying. actually i try to to debug the cpt.py code, after flash the recovery it stops cuz its thinks the device is disconnected.
[22:04] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> or i can install just with adb commands by hand?
 CPT doesn't have a channel switch option?
 Welcome Kristijan , @sambuccid and @Mujahid119
 And welcome bunia , Justus
[22:06] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i am not sure in the first lines in the code is a channel option, i just tried to is it with entering "devel" in the string. but as i wrote cpt has another problem with my device
 I'm downloading 17.10 so I can test the different installers and see if I can't debug the issues. In the meantime, and I should have asked you earlier, do you have any earlier installs anywhere?
[22:08] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> what you are mean with early install?
 17.04 or 16.04
[22:09] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> sec
[22:09] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> my ubuntu image is a 17.04
[22:09] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> bt terminal says 17.10
 @bastos777, Thanks! I am very happy to be here - finally. (Still no option to join supergroups on Telegram for UT) And so nice to have the possibility to try the stable version on mako!
 @Marty McFly, Yeah, I'm asking if you have an install of 16.04 anywhere so we can get around this issue
[22:15] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> no i dont have, should it work with a virtual machine? i could try that. and sorry ma version is 17.04 dunno why said 17.10
 Oh, the installer didn't work on your 17.04 either? strange.
 Did you use the snap at all?
[22:17] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> snap?
 Hmm, don't know when that guy was updated
 Well, since all else has failed, `sudo snap install magic-device-tool --devmode`. It always gets it right.
 Run with `magic-device-tool`
[22:25] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> oh yes tried but channel is not choosable
 Aha.
 @UniversalSuperBox, And sudo, right?
 @TomasOqvist, Sometimes. Depends on whether it can detect your device without it.
[22:26] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i am in the ubports recovery now wow!
[22:26] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> can i do anything usefull now?
 @mariogrip, any troubleshooting steps we can go through so we can fix this?
 Looks like it isn't just him: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/36
 @UniversalSuperBox, maybe send me the installer logs? ~/.cache/ubports/ubports-installer.log
[22:29] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> so. is there any .zip i can install via the ubports recovery thats boots me directly to the devel edition??
 @Marty McFly, you can try `sudo ubuntu-device-flash —server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch —device=FP2 \ … —channel=15.04/stable` from recovery
 try that from recovery
 you might need to install `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-device-flash phablet-tools`
 oh! wait
 you need to select devel
 Also he's trying to install devel, not stable
 silently deletes message
 ```sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=FP2 \ … --channel=15.04/devel```
 that's the correct one ^
 Marty ^
[22:33] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i cant find something what looks like a terminal there
 @Marty McFly, oh, on your laptop/desktop
 That's on your PC
 with a usb connected
[22:34] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> and phone in recovery? or bootloader?
 @Marty McFly, recovery
 you are in the ubports recovery right?
[22:35] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yes
[22:35] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i think its installing
 ok, good
[22:35] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> at least downloading ❌
 yeah it's downloading all the files needed
[22:36] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> before connection check?
[22:37] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> yeyeyyeyeye a smiley face on my screen :)
[22:37] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> thanks alot i hope it works now :)
 :)
 Do we have snap search for package search ?
 @hwpplayer1, I don't quite understand, where are you looking?
[22:42] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i am in! my god a whole day for this install hahaha thanks to all helpers :)
 My Ubuntu 17.10 download has completed, but I don't have one of the shiny new Fairphones to test the install on.
 So I'm missing a pice of the puzzle to fix this problem. :P
[22:43] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> hehe
[22:43] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> but thx for downloading
[22:44] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> btw its 17.04 i informed you wrong
 Well, thanks for sticking with us. We're happy to have you.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Like sudo apt-cache search
 @hwpplayer1, You're looking for `snap find`. But no, that is not currently on Ubuntu Touch.
 On desktop ?
 Where is the source code of snap system ?
 I've no idea. That's an excellent question for one of the Snapcraft channels on GitHub. Or possibly snapcraft.io
 Okay i'm there already
 Scroll all the way to the bottom, it's under "Contribute".
 https://rocket.ubuntu.com/channel/snapcraft
 Alright
[22:52] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> its possible to deactivate radiochip and microphone?
 have flopped a bq e4.5 from the terminal and the recovery is not that of ubports.es correct?
 @Marty McFly, Well, you can always go into airplane mode. As for the mic, you could probably turn it down with something like alsamixer.
 https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft
 @Ricardo, I'm not sure what you mean?
[22:58] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> its a beggining thx
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0JHUPnBy/file_1358.jpg
 No, that is not the UBports recovery.
[23:11] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> "Swipe from the long/short left/right edge to view..." is popin up every 2 actions i do
 That recovery is correct in e4.5
[23:11] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> and its bugged i need to power off display to get it away
 Hmm. Let me see if there's a file that needs to be poked
 have installed it from the terminal and it has installed me well the systems can be?
 Bah, I'm not going to be able to find it. @mariogrip is there a file that stops the tutorial from showing up that isn't getting touched?
 @Ricardo, Are you asking how to figure out which system you have installed, or something else?
 @UniversalSuperBox, you can use phablet-config
[23:18] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i dont have a back or a home button, how to get out of system settings?
 @UniversalSuperBox, else it's … ```dbus-send --system --print-reply ' '--dest=com.canonical.PropertyService ' '/com/canonical/PropertyService ' 'com.canonical.PropertyService.SetProperty ' string:edge boolean:true'```
 @Marty McFly, Swipe from the left of the screen to the right?
 I ask if what I have installed is correct.apparently everything is fine
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/rWkXqqp3/file_1360.jpg
 @Ricardo, Looks like the RC channel to me.
[23:23] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> its 2 different problems. problem one is that swiping message comes alltime and not leave with a swipe, i need to repower my display for that
[23:23] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> but strong problem is that im sock in my settings
 If all else fails, reboot I'd suppose.
[23:24] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/w5uvDGol/file_1362.jpg
[23:24] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> button forgotten?
 Nope. Swiping from the very left edge of the screen to the right goes Home.
 Swiping from the very right edge to the left goes to the app switcher
 No global back button
 The question is: Why does not recovery of ubports?
 We can't rebuild the recovery for the Canonical devices. There's no source code available.
[23:26] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> from the "very" left 😆 okay understood^^
 And that should make the tutorial stop now, too. :)
[23:29] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> 🙈
 Once you get used to that navigation, it'll be hard to go back to any other mobile OS.
 Waaaaaaay too satisfying
[23:30] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> i never had any other mobile os
 Oh
 Well
 Point still stands. :P
[23:30] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> im a freelancer 😆
 Is that recovery correct?
 Yes
 (Sticker, 388x512) https://irc.ubports.com/fkgB0LJ0/file_1363
 (Photo, 1280x1278) https://irc.ubports.com/9VIeg0Za/file_1365.jpg
 any ideas for the glyph?
[23:49] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> a setting for stretching the "very" left swipes would be cool
[23:49] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> maybe with the old display its another performance idk
 @Marty McFly, That's a feature of the Tweak Tool, found in the OpenStore.
 Edge sensitivity, methinks
 (Photo, 1280x1278) https://irc.ubports.com/0Rkl0aGx/file_1367.jpg current idea is something like this
 center them dots!
[23:51] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> ty
 j/k
 what is it for?
 probably exactly what you think it is :)
 whatsup?
 ya
[23:55] <tgBot> <Marty McFly> the enemy in my bed : x
 looks ok
 maybe drop the inner shadow


[08:43] <tapemachine> hello...
[08:43] <tapemachine> i tried ubuntu oneiric on my pandaboard but hdmi audio doesnt seem to work. anyone know which build it was working on?
[10:56] <dcordes_> hi
[11:27] <dcordes_> few days ago I asked about ac100 kernel update in oneiric here
[11:27] <dcordes_> somebody told me they would push new version to the repositories
[11:29] <dcordes_> but after updating and upgrading I still have 2.6.38-1001-ac100
[12:25] <ogra_> dcordes, i dont think janimo actually planned any updates for oneiric
[12:25] <ogra_> dcordes, you can use the 3.0.8 package from precise though
[12:40] <dcordes> ogra_: I just installed it on marvin's advice and run it now
[13:01] <dcordes> ogra_: do you have working headphones in the precise kernel ?
[13:06] <ogra_> i never use headphones ... speakers work fine by default though
[15:09] <janimo> dcordes, the oneiric update was only supposed to fix some mmap related bug, just to be in line with all other Ubuntu ARM kernels. No other changes will land in oneiric I think
[15:10] <janimo> rbasak, are you running openmpi from debian/experimental? Planning a merge into precise?
[15:12] <rbasak> janimo: 1.5.x was requested: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-arm-openmpi
[15:13] <rbasak> janimo: I requested it from Debian and the maintainers kindly updated to the latest upstream, but it ftbfs both on debian and on ubuntu (I tried it unmodified). I didn't get as far as trying your fixes from 1.4.x on it.
[15:13] <rbasak> (ftbfs on arm that is)
[15:14] <rbasak> (and last I checked debian 1.5.x was only in experimental)
[15:14] <janimo> rbasak, ok, those fixes were ok on 1.4 .I had the impression ARM sent and got more complete fixes in 1.5 upstream but I may misremember
[15:19] <rbasak> how does preseeding work with preinstalled images? this sounds like a contradiction to me
[15:19] <ogra_> preinstalled images run oem-config on first boot
[15:20] <ogra_> which asks you for username, passwd, timezone etc
[15:20] <rbasak> ah I see
[15:20] <ogra_> to automate the install you need to preseed these vars
[15:20] <rbasak> thanks
[16:45] <ppisati> is there an armhf img available?
[16:49] <infinity> ppisati: Same place as the armel ones.
[16:50] <infinity> ppisati: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ (for instance)
[16:51] <ppisati> nice
[18:12] <janimo> rbasak, does openmpi 1.5 have features you want for server? The BP is not clear about whether you want to replace 1.4 or have both versions (1.5 is labeled beta by upstream)
[18:13] <janimo> since if you want 1.5 arm FTBFS should not be a blocker and we should have it synced from experimental so it gets enough testing
[19:40] <dioxin_> does the install of Ubuntu Server onto a Pandaboard require the use of the serial port?
[19:41] <dioxin_> I'm getting no display output at all
[19:41] <ndec> dioxin_: yes. with server image all the installation happens on serial, there is no display
[19:45] <dioxin_> cheers ndec
[19:45] <ndec> np
[23:48] <rbasak> janimo: good question, and I don't know the answer. All I know is that stakeholders have asked for 1.5.


[01:52] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: hey, got some additional errors when downloading the sources
[01:52] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6888536/
[01:52] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: do you have the tarball with the binaries & script around?
[01:53] <rsalveti> want to try with 4.4.2 to see if it works better on mako
[01:56] <chrisccoulson> rsalveti, hmm, that sucks :/
[01:56] <chrisccoulson> i do have the tarball, but the hotel wifi runs at about 10kB/s
[01:56] <chrisccoulson> and it's around 700MB
[02:08] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: right, ping me tomorrow morning then
[02:08] <chrisccoulson> sure, no problem
[02:08] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[03:43] <plars> cwayne: achiang: not sure if it's a fluke or not, but after rerunning the customization tests, it looks like there was still 1 failure: customization_tests.api.test_webbrowser_settings.BrowserCustomizationTests.test_bookmark_db_schema
[03:44] <cwayne> plars, weird, we havent had any failures at all recently
[04:27] <duko> can anyone here recommend any phone / any US phone carrier service that would allow ubuntu touch calls and text?
[04:53] <cwayne> duko, nexus 4, and pretty much anything from my experience
[07:48] <Fishscene> I want to give a HUGE thank you to whoever gave the greenlight for Mir 0.1.4 to be in the Ubuntu touch image.
[09:54] <Vinoth> Hi Guys , I ' m having samsung galaxy core , bored of android on my device , i would like to intstall ubuntu on it
[09:54] <Vinoth> is it safe to go ahead
[09:55] <Vinoth> as far as i looked , website covered only on nexus
[09:57] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:01] <Sam____> guys, can P895 run ubuntu touch?
[10:15] <tsdgeos> Vinoth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[10:33] <Guest50561> Is there any specification we need to look for porting ubuntu touch?
[10:35] <ogra_> you device should have a working Cyanogenmod or (preferably) AOSP port to base on
[13:19] <Saviq> rsalveti, is emulator supported on non-free drivers?
[13:20] <rsalveti> Saviq: never tested, but it should work (it uses GL)
[13:20] <rsalveti> Saviq: there's a translator driver that converts GLES to host-GL
[13:20] <Saviq> rsalveti, mhm
[13:21] <rsalveti> Saviq: are you trying with the nvidia driver?
[13:21] <Saviq> rsalveti, yeah
[13:21] <rsalveti> Saviq: have the logs?
[13:22] <Saviq> rsalveti, what do you need me to get?
[13:23] <rsalveti> Saviq: just the entire output/logs when running the emulator (the host side)
[13:25] <Saviq> rsalveti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6891246/
[13:26]  * Saviq enables optimus
[13:26] <MarcNC> buenas! Acabo de ver ubuntu touch para android i quisiera saber si se podria instalar en mi LG OPTIMUS L7?
[13:28] <rsalveti> Saviq: seems qemu was able to find and use your libs:
[13:28] <rsalveti> emulator: Initializing hardware OpenGLES emulation support
[13:28] <rsalveti> emulator: Kernel parameters: qemu.gles=1 qemu=1 console=ttyS0 android.qemud=ttyS1 androidboot.console=ttyS2 ndns=1
[13:28] <rsalveti> otherwise it'd give an error there
[13:29] <rsalveti> Saviq: is unity8 crashing?
[13:29] <rsalveti> Saviq: can you also paste your logcat?
[13:30] <Saviq> rsalveti, nothing that would suggest so, no
[13:30] <Saviq> rsalveti, no upstart log, no .crash, no nothing
[13:30] <Saviq> maybe I didn't wait long enough...
[13:33] <Saviq> rsalveti, root@ubuntu-phablet:/home/phablet/.cache/upstart# less unity8.log
[13:33] <Saviq> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<std::runtime_error> >'
[13:33] <Saviq>   what():  buffer allocation failed
[13:33] <Saviq> rsalveti, that's on intel, though
[13:38] <rsalveti> Saviq: hm, never had that
[13:38] <rsalveti> wonder if that's video memory or normal ram
[13:39] <rsalveti> Saviq: are you using the emulator with 512MB of ram?
[13:39] <rsalveti> afaik you could already use it with 720
[13:39] <Saviq> rsalveti, didn't change anything
[13:39] <Saviq> rsalveti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6891292/ on nvidia
[13:40] <Saviq> and  what():  Failed to compile vertex shader:
[13:40] <Saviq> so yeah, nvidia == nono
[13:40] <Saviq> ah wait, maybe wrong gl
[13:41] <Saviq> yeah, forgot to update-alternatives gl for i386, let's see again
[13:43] <rsalveti> Saviq: yeah, maybe it was still trying to use the mesa driver
[13:43] <Saviq> rsalveti, yeah, that last one for sure
[13:44] <Saviq> rsalveti, ah right, it just hangs now
[13:44] <Saviq> rsalveti, when trying to launch unity8 under correctly-configured nvidia
[13:45] <rsalveti> Saviq: did you get any error from qemu?
[13:45] <rsalveti> or logcat as well
[13:46] <Saviq> rsalveti, nothing on the host console, just gone
[13:46] <Saviq> rsalveti, spinning, actually
[13:51] <Saviq> rsalveti, btw, the EDGE skin is still shipped with hw.ramSize=512
[13:52] <ogra_> Saviq, yes, because qemu crashes with more
[13:52] <rsalveti> well, it works with 720
[13:52] <ogra_> oh, yeah, then it should be updated to that
[13:52] <rsalveti> next upload should allow more
[13:52] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ^
[13:53] <sergiusens> rsalveti, Saviq just --memory 720
[13:53] <sergiusens> it fails with 720 for some
[13:54] <Saviq> oh ok
[14:41] <chaitanya_> /echo -at $logdir
[15:24] <kgunn> oSoMoN: ping
[15:24] <oSoMoN> kgunn, pong
[15:24] <kgunn> unping
[15:24] <oSoMoN> unpong
[15:35] <mterry> Cimi, poke about welcome-wizard
[15:36] <Cimi> mterry, pong
[15:37] <mterry> Cimi, just curious where it is.  You were working on wifi?
[15:38] <FuLgOrE_> hi rsalveti: thanks for the hint to update the android-ramdisk after flashing the system.img. it worked :)
[15:38] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE_: cool
[15:38] <popey> pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools/+bug/1276683
[15:39] <Cimi> mterry, nope, working on preview widgetds
[15:39] <FuLgOrE_> rsalveti: did you flash your N5 now? :)
[15:39] <mterry> Cimi, oh right
[15:39] <pmcgowan> kgunn, screenshot thing is known issue per popey ^^
[15:39] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE_: yup, that's how I tested it
[15:40] <cwayne> do we have any plan to fix screenshots on manta?
[15:40] <cwayne> that'd be very helpful for me..
[15:40] <FuLgOrE_> rsalveti: ah, I see. so I think these 3 img-files is your third batch, right? the second should fix the brightness control, am I right? this don't works on my phone. did it work for you?
[15:41] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE_: not yet, that's till broken
[15:41] <rsalveti> cwayne: did you try the 4.4 image?
[15:41] <rsalveti> would be nice to know if it's still broken with 4.4
[15:42] <cwayne> rsalveti, i did not, but i can try today
[15:42] <rsalveti> cwayne: cool, it's faster as well ;-)
[15:43] <cwayne> nice :D
[15:43] <cwayne> rsalveti, already got it running on my personal flo and hammerhead
[15:43] <cwayne> might as well try it on manta too
[15:43] <rsalveti> yeah, cool
[15:44] <FuLgOrE_> rsalveti: do you have an idea how I can support you with my limited knowledge? any tests, any log files? I would like to help but I don't know how.
[15:45] <rsalveti> FuLgOrE_: guess the sound issue is the most important to get fixed now, but I can't help much on that yet
[15:45] <rsalveti> need to read a bit more about ucm and pulse
[15:47] <ogra_> rsalveti, i can take that bit for flo ... i mannaged to get panda to work as well back then :) but it would help so much if diwic could do it ... he doesnt need to "read" about it first :)
[15:48] <rsalveti> ogra_: exactly
[15:48] <rsalveti> he would just do it in 5 minutes
[15:48] <ogra_> yeah
[15:49] <barry> xnox: is adb in the emulator broken?  "init: cannot find '/sbin/adbd', disabling 'adbd'"
[15:49] <FuLgOrE_> rsalveti, ogra_: if he would have some time and I would know when (and also would have time) I could try out his ideas and give him feedback and log files in time
[15:49] <FuLgOrE_> would be great
[15:50] <ogra_> the magic word here is "would"
[15:50] <FuLgOrE_> that's right
[15:50] <ogra_> he is up to his ears in other stuff
[15:51] <FuLgOrE_> flo = new nexus 7 right?
[15:51] <xnox> barry: that's from android's initramfs
[15:51] <xnox> barry: a proper adbd should start.... if rootfs got mounted that is
[15:52] <barry> xnox: adb devices returns nothing, but let me restart the emulator
[15:53] <barry> xnox: ah. now it's there
[15:54] <ogra_> it takes a bit :)
[16:06] <FuLgOrE_> ogra_, rsalveti: do you have a good idea where to get a manual/wiki for UCM? I just found one very limited wiki page.
[16:07] <ogra_> no, it seriously lacks documentation
[16:07] <ogra_> using existing UCM files and comparing them with amixer output is the best to get it up for a start
[16:10] <FuLgOrE_> ogra_: I will have a look tomorrow. But as I wrote my knowledge is very limited.... I followed the porting guide. this matches with the only UCM wiki page I found. so the conf file should be okay. the two other files needs some adjustments, I guess (HiFi and VoiceCall). I only exchanged the soundcard name from the original conf to the correct one in N5. but I still get a "no soundcard found" message in dmesg. we will see
[16:11] <FuLgOrE_> I'll leave now. see you guys, and thanks for everything :)
[16:36] <chrisccoulson> hi rsalveti
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> so, i managed to figure out my issue now :)
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~oxide-developers/oxide/oxide.trunk/revision/344
[16:54] <ogra_> stgraber, do ou have an idea why the latest system-image wouldnt download the blacklist file ?
[16:55] <ogra_> (there were no system-image related changes on the image, i'm wondering if there was a server side hiccup)
[16:55] <ogra_> stgraber, bug 1277589
[16:55] <popey> we are on shit wifi here, so it's entirely possible.
[16:56] <popey> however it happened to be pretty good at the time
[16:57] <davmor2> sergiusens: qt5.2 qtmultimedia fix did it land yet, I'm just trying to keep track of all the things I've been asked to test :)
[16:57] <stgraber> ogra_: well, the file sure didn't change on the server as it needs 5 people to physically meet to be able to change it :)
[16:57] <ogra_> popey, trying my maguro, thats still on 169
[16:58] <stgraber> so my bet would be on shit wifi (as I don't believe either udm nor system-image changed on the client side)
[16:58] <sergiusens> davmor2, in the archive, yes
[16:58] <sergiusens> davmor2, but just the clean removal
[16:58] <sergiusens> davmor2, needs a set of new diversions for the new Qt
[16:59] <davmor2> sergiusens: ah right so I don't need to manually remove the QTMM steps to test anymore right?
[16:59] <sergiusens> davmor2, right; just add ppa, update and dist-upgrade
[16:59] <davmor2> sergiusens: good to know thanks :)
[17:02] <ogra_> popey, maguro just rebooted fine into recovery ... it is now installing
[17:05] <ogra_> stgraber, yeah, i meant more the file that defines that it gets downloaded ... or is that on the client side ?
[17:05] <stgraber> ogra_: it's hardcoded in the system-image client and hasn't changed since the first release
[17:11] <popey> stgraber: lemme know if there's anything else you want from my device. I am leaving in 3 hours.
[17:11] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: great
[17:12] <ogra_> popey, well, seems your download simply didnt properly happen
[17:12] <rsalveti> sergiusens: we should ping Mirv to update the qt5.2 install instructions as well
[17:12] <ogra_> popey, the intresting question is now: can you get out of this state
[17:12] <stgraber> popey: try a few more times and see if it works, if it does, blame your wifi/provider and close the bug :)
[17:12] <ogra_> popey, do you get the image offered again after i.e. a reboot
[17:12] <stgraber> popey: if there's a transparent proxy returning you garbage, you may be stuck in that state though
[17:13] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: all good then?
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> rsalveti, seems to be. i've had it running http://webglsamples.googlecode.com/hg/aquarium/aquarium.html on the N4 quite nicely :)
[17:13] <popey> ok
[17:14] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: lovely
[17:15] <sergiusens> rsalveti, I already pinged him; well not explicitly to fix instructions, but to say it wasn't needed
[17:15] <sergiusens> no idea where those instructions live
[17:15] <rsalveti> sergiusens: great then
[17:15] <pmcgowan> chrisccoulson, you got mako running with oxide?
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> pmcgowan, yeah
[17:16] <pmcgowan> sweet
[17:17] <bfiller> Kaleo_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6866549/
[17:22] <Mirv> sergiusens: airport, on todo list. once I get to retest some upgrade path with the more fixed qtmultimedia-touch I'll update the pastebin link at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta2
[17:23] <Mirv> or rsalveti, whoever pinged :)
[17:29]  * Mirv -> gate
[17:39] <didrocks> Mirv: safe flight!
[17:45] <achiang> plars: hi, i just manually re-ran our failing webbrowser test and it seems to pass here.
[17:45] <achiang> plars: any chance you could try to kick off a new run for us?
[17:46] <plars> achiang: there's actually one running right now due to the new image, and it seems to have passed the customization tests already
[17:46] <mterry> ogra_, so is nested mode back on the your landing plan?
[17:46] <achiang> plars: ah, great!
[17:46] <ogra_> mterry, i was waiting for your ok for the missing two tests
[17:46] <achiang> plars: thanks
[17:47] <mterry> ogra_, oh yeah OK.  They are in progress, but aren't needed for landing nested mode, as long as we are committed to landing the tests
[17:47] <ogra_> mterry, beyond that, yes indeed :)
[17:47] <mterry> ogra_, sorry thought I said that yesterday
[17:47] <ogra_> mterry, but the whole landing team is gone ... traveling
[17:47] <mterry> :(
[17:48] <ogra_> mterry, i understood that nested worked for you ... and it worked on maguro too when i tested here today
[17:48] <mterry> ogra_, awesome.  Maguro is tricksy
[17:48] <ogra_> the image was in bad shape today though ... so landing would only have been possible with the US shift
[17:48] <ogra_> but they are off as well afaik
[17:49] <mterry> ogra_, OK it can wait.  Just curious of where we stood
[17:49] <mterry> ogra_, and if you needed anything fromme
[17:50] <ogra_> mterry, nope, trying to land it on monday
[17:50] <mterry> ogra_, cool
[18:11] <tajamul> kindly prepare a ubuntu rom for samsung wave ii
[18:12] <tajamul> wave ii currently works on bada os it has got  great hardware but crap os
[18:13] <tajamul> preparing it for wave ii will give ubuntu a grat launchpad
[18:15] <tajamul> and ubuntu will have a brand associatdted with it though unofficially
[18:15] <tajamul> kindly develop ubuntu for samsung wave ii
[18:16] <tajamul> anydody there
[18:18] <tajamul> where are all the techy guys
[18:18] <tajamul> y anybody is not listning
[18:19] <tajamul> kindly answer
[18:24] <k1l_> tajamul: there is a porting guide on the page. if no one has done a port you can start there
[18:24] <tajamul> i dont know much about it
[18:25] <tajamul> but they have made android to work on samsung wave ii
[18:25] <tajamul> so if android has been ported then y cant ubuntu be
[18:25] <tajamul> it will provide ubuntu a great launchpad
[18:26] <tajamul> because wave ii users are fedup with its bada os
[18:26] <k1l_> tajamul: only some nexus devices are officialy suported so far. the other devices are form community members support. so you will have to start something
[18:26] <tajamul> though it has great hardware
[18:26] <k1l_> tajamul: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:27] <tajamul> can u sir port it
[18:28] <tajamul> i refer ur goodself to badahub site
[18:28] <tajamul> there they have links to some elementry work of porting it to wave ii
[18:29] <k1l_> well, its quite old phone from 2010 with a singlecore 1mhz cpu and running bada. i doubt that this is going to be easy
[18:31] <tajamul> ok
[18:31] <tajamul> does it mean there are no chances
[18:33] <k1l_> tajamul: you can try to do it. but i think the hardware is not that fast.
[18:34] <bfiller> Kaleo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6892819/
[18:34] <tajamul> http://www.tizenus.com/2013/03/rom-ubuntu-phone-alpha-wave-wave-2.html
[18:34] <Guest7178> How to disable vibration? The phone makes strange noise when vibrating (normal vibration sound + noise of static electricity or cracking). (Galaxy Nexus, Maguro, trusty)
[18:34] <tajamul> sir kindly check the link
[18:35] <k1l_> tajamul: ok, then ask them directly about the porting state and if they want to share it on the ubuntu wiki, too
[18:36] <tajamul> http://link.safelinkconverter.com/?id=aHR0cDovL2YociptLnhkIS1kKXYpbChwKXJzLmMobS9zaCh3dGhyKSFkLnBocD90PTIxNjI3NzA=&c=1&user=11095
[18:37] <tajamul> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-ik4iAnUHXU
[18:37] <tajamul> kindly check the video to know its state
[18:39] <tajamul> i am not that much versed in linux  otherwise would have tried it myself because i love ubuntu a lot and want to see it progress
[18:40] <ogra_> Guest7178, you cant yet
[18:45] <Guest7178> ogra_ Can't I unload vibration driver from kernel? Or replace vibrate() (or something along this lines) function?
[18:46] <ogra_> nope
[18:46] <tajamul>  Tigrouzen , Rebbelos, Volk204  know a lot about porting on wave ii
[18:57] <Guest7178> ogra_ Can You tell me where should i start loocking for a solution? I know good deal about linux and I can write simple C code.
[18:59] <balloons> so ubuntu touch dual boot force closes after opening in android. Ubuntu is not currently installed (but was, I was attempting to update). It continues to do this even after attempting to remove it and app data under /data. What should I reflash to get it working again?
[19:00] <ogra_> Guest7178, usensord is written in go ... and it is simply not completely done yet
[19:04] <Guest7178> ogra_ Thanks. I'll take a look on usensord and see if I can dissable vibration support.
[19:04] <ogra_> Guest7178, https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/usensord/trunk
[19:05] <ogra_> Guest7178, note that there are already fixes and all, they just didnt go through the landing process yet
[19:05] <ogra_> sergiusens, ^^^
[19:05] <sergiusens> Guest7178, ogra_ usensord isn't used yet
[19:05] <sergiusens> and disabling would come from the settings
[19:05] <ogra_> oh, i thought the vibration is handled by it
[19:06] <sergiusens> ogra_, it will, but it's just adaptation
[19:06] <ogra_> ah, k
[19:06] <sergiusens> today apps are hooking up directly
[19:08] <Guest7178> So what code is responsible for vibration? Kernel? I "disarm" vibration support if i know what code is called.
[19:17] <popey> pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1277589
[19:41] <mterry> elopio, so looking at your url_dispatcher test.  It's a good test.  But note that this isn't actually hitting the code-path that caused the problem for nested-mode.  That required using system-setting's weird nested-launch-via-dbus of online-accounts.  But that test is waiting for the generic package-of-AP-tests right?  Anyway, this test seems to work for me, will comment in MP
[19:42] <elopio> mterry: yes, this is not the test you are looking for.
[19:42] <mterry> elopio, still a good test as I was saying.  Just triple-confirming we're on the same page
[19:43] <elopio> but I finished it in the mean time, as it gives us all the helpers we need for the test when omers's project is ready to go, and it also gives us the helpers to remove the messaging app dependency (that was my secret intention all along ;)
[19:43] <mterry> elopio, you added a bunch of reviewers to that MP.  Should I wait to top-approve that branch until more reviews happen?
[19:43] <elopio> mterry: I promise you the online accounts will be ready next week.
[19:43] <mterry> elopio, :)
[19:44] <elopio> mterry: no, you can top approve it. I add my team mates so they can take a look at what I'm doing, but this introduces nothing new for them to review.
[19:44] <mterry> k
[20:08] <MrDigerati> Is there anyone using MultiRom on Mako? #Nexus4? My Ubuntu Touch stays at the Google logo. In a minute I was able to adb though. "dmesg" keep repeating some error message. I am using the current build.
[20:30] <MrDigerati> Hello anyone there?
[20:30] <robert1> yes, hi mrdi
[20:31] <MrDigerati> Hey robert1 - my mako wouldn't boot on MultiRom. Could you help?
[20:31] <MrDigerati> Is Tassadar around?
[20:32] <MrDigerati> I used these: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[20:33] <robert1> MrDigerati, no, i can't help, i used phablet-flash to push the files on my mako
[21:12] <achiang> what is the first version of ubuntu desktop where phablet-tools are in the archive? is it trusty? or do they live in saucy/raring too?
[21:12] <achiang> sergiusens: ^^
[21:13] <sergiusens> achiang, raring I think, but outdated
[21:13] <sergiusens> let me check
[21:14] <sergiusens> achiang, nope, just saucy
[21:14] <sergiusens> achiang, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phablet-tools
[21:14] <achiang> sergiusens: i'm just reading in the context of our wiki where it's recommending users add a PPA to their system
[21:14] <achiang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Set_up_the_Touch_Developer_Preview_Tools_PPA
[21:15] <sergiusens> achiang, I think it's always good to add the PPA except for trusty, which is LTS and the tools are included so I can SRU them
[21:15] <achiang> sergiusens: makes sense, thanks
[21:16] <sergiusens> achiang, is this just for flashing?
[21:16] <sergiusens> achiang, no need of phablet-tools, just ubuntu-device-flash
[21:16] <sergiusens> achiang, iirc fastboot and adb should be deps for that
[21:16] <achiang> sergiusens: has u-d-f superseded phablet-tools completely yet?
[21:16] <achiang> sergiusens: at least for flashing... ?
[21:17] <sergiusens> achiang, for official images I'd say yes
[21:17] <sergiusens> achiang, how to prove that to you, I don't know :-)
[21:18] <achiang> sergiusens: you send an email to ubuntu-phone, update wiki, and get ogra to "leak" it to OMG
[21:19] <sergiusens> achiang, ack, I did send an email; I guess I'll send one more
[21:19] <achiang> sergiusens: ah, i didn't see it
[23:05] <matv1> is anyone aware of the the backspace and enter keys when using the terminal dont work anymore?
[23:24] <matv1> god that terminal is doing my head in
[23:25] <matv1> are backspace and enter buttons on the osk disabled now because of the panels?
[23:26] <matv1> and whats with the font size 3 grey on orange panel buttons?
[23:26] <matv1> how did that get past design?
[23:34] <matv1> mhall119 sorry can i just bother you about this? you use maguro right?
[23:55] <matv1> nhaines sorry can i just bother you about this :) ?
[23:56] <matv1> osk when using terminal. Is it buggy atm? or is it me? im not sure
[23:58] <matv1> anyone from canonical?