[16:39] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I don't think the files would harm anything but it might also indicate that some files maybe missing
[16:39] <afidegnum> geirha, I wanted to install java6 from oracl
[16:39] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson: ok, thanks
[16:40] <ybon_burundi> should I just run fsck when I'm in /mnt, then?
[16:40] <OerHeks> !java | afidegnum
[16:40] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think fsck is run when the disk is NOT mounted
[16:40] <geirha> afidegnum: Oh, in what form is that? deb file? tgz file? Isn't there a PPA with oracle java somewhere?
[16:41] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ah, right, thanks, let me man that :)
[16:41] <geirha> ybon_burundi: the filesystem should NOT be mounted when you check it
[16:41] <beginner> thnx for no help
[16:41] <afidegnum> so with apt-get install, what type of java should I install?
[16:41] <beginner> have nice day
[16:44] <bitzs> hi
[16:45] <sohail-ahmed> I have to show you people my desktop screen shot. Where should I post that screen shot; what's the standard?
[16:45] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[16:45] <k1l> !paste | sohail-ahmed
[16:45] <ybon_burundi> so you were right
[16:46] <sohail-ahmed> k1l: thanks
[16:46] <ybon_burundi> geirha, sacarlson: Inode 1977499, i_blocks is 16, should be 8.  Fix<y>?  :)
[16:46] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: cool looks like you found your problem maybe fsck will fix it
[16:47] <v0lksman> where can I look to debug bluetooth headphones?  They connect but half the time no sound, after a bunch of disconnect/reconnect cycles it will finally work...
[16:47] <bitzs> hi
[16:48] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I've had some crapy bluetooth devices that don't work much past 2 feet
[16:48] <sohail-ahmed> At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6
[16:48] <v0lksman> sacarlson: distance doesn't seem to be an issue at all...just the initial connection
[16:48] <v0lksman> in fact the distance is pretty sweet on this pair
[16:49] <sacarlson> v0lksman: so does it work good on other systems like windows?
[16:49] <v0lksman> yep..no problems with iphone or macbook...just the linux box with an ASUS USB dongle
[16:50] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I'm not sure your the same one but others today were going to try newer versions of bluez
[16:50] <v0lksman> hrm...not me...I just got fed up and decided to ask... :)
[16:50] <kevindf> Hello I've setup a TS3 Music Bot on my Ubuntu 13.04 home server but the music is crackling when playing
[16:51] <kevindf> i've got no RAM problems either, i checked that
[16:51] <CarlFK> what's the difference between node and nodejs-legacy?
[16:52] <reisio> legacy means it isn't supported anymore
[16:52] <reisio> it also means upstream changes their minds a lot and can't be relied upon :)
[16:52] <sacarlson> v0lksman: I'm not sure any of these would be any better https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=bluez
[16:52] <reisio> either that or the devs maintaining that package
[16:52] <ybon_burundi> many many errors :s
[16:52] <john_doe_jr> is it possible to have rest api commands from the terminal?
[16:53] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: oh ya you said your power was unreliable so your disk must be corupted from one of the power crashes
[16:53] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ah, good suggestion, yeah
[16:54] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: I'm hitting "y" to every problem, is that something I should be warned about?
[16:54] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think there is a way to say Y to all questions when you run fsck so you don't have to keep answer each of them
[16:55] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: yes, seen in the manual, but now I'm not sure it's a good idea to stop the process in the middle
[16:55] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I don't think you have a choice you will have to try to fix it otherwise you'll just have to reformat and reinstall
[16:55] <ybon_burundi> ok, thanks
[16:55] <sacarlson> ybon_burundi: I think you can ctrlC out and restart it no problem
[16:55] <sohail-ahmed> At present two of my programs are displaying strange characters at their GUI. The rest of my system is working perfectly alright. For example calibre, I have also reinstalled it in vain. http://imgur.com/jEmiSI6 . Any help???
[16:56] <ybon_burundi> sacarlson: ok, thanks again :)
[16:56] <swift110-phone> Hey
[16:57] <bitzs> hi guys
[16:58] <ybon_burundi> oops /dev/sda1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
[16:58] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: looks like maybe a language setting
[16:59] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: I'm not sure where that is set and I would think all gui would be changed not just 1 or 2
[16:59] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: oh a font setting
[17:00] <sacarlson> sohail-ahmed: so why do those 2 gui use a different font?
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> sacarlson: thanks for responding. No the problem is only in these two. How can I fix that. I never changed their Font seting
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> no. they both show the same chracters.
[17:00] <bitzs> hi
[17:00] <sohail-ahmed> or you may say the same language
[17:02] <k1l> sohail-ahmed: in panel you seem to use arabic font. maybe that is the issue for the program
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> k1l:  its urdu my native language
[17:03] <bitzs> hi guys hello
[17:03] <bitzs> any one there?
[17:03] <bitzs> guys!
[17:03] <k1l> bitzs: some users are here
[17:03] <sohail-ahmed> its not an issue, since initially calibre was working fine
[17:03] <bitzs> ok i am doing testing with clearos
[17:03] <bitzs> :)
[17:04] <k1l> bitzs: please use #test for tests, thanks
[17:05] <genii> !test
[17:12] <King_Arthur> What version of Ubuntu should I use to make it easy to switch between Chrome OS and Ubuntu  leaning towards Lubuntu
[17:12] <hardcore_vazquez> Buenas tardes!
[17:12] <reisio> King_Arthur: shouldn't matter
[17:12] <hardcore_vazquez> estoy buscando asistencia para el chat
[17:13] <k1l> !es | hardcore_vazquez
[17:15] <King_Arthur> reisio can I switch the close buttons in to the other side of the window?
[17:15] <kungfoojoo> hello
[17:15] <reisio> King_Arthur: yup
[17:15] <kungfoojoo> if i wanted to install a package meant for debian, on my ubuntu system: 1, will it work?  2, could it break my computer?  3, will my system become ineligible for support from the official ubuntu community?  4, is there anything else i might need to know?
[17:15] <reisio> King_Arthur: with gnome-tweak-tool, easily, IIRC
[17:15] <reisio> kungfoojoo: 1) maybe 2) it might confuse your package manager / OS 3) only if it does 4) there's always more
[17:16] <bzil> Hi, somebody could help me to do working a video projector picopix 2055 ? With libam soft ?
[17:16] <kungfoojoo> thanks, reisio
[17:16] <reisio> bzil: ...what about it
[17:16] <reisio> kungfoojoo: if you can be more specific than 'a package', you might get more useful info
[17:17] <King_Arthur> thanks reisio!
[17:17] <kungfoojoo> i wish to install iceweasel on my ubuntu 14.04 compputer
[17:17] <bzil> I had install libam 1.5 but he can't work when i luch am7xxx-play -f x11grab -i :0.0
[17:17] <bzil> he say scan_devices: am7xxx device found, index: 0, name: Philips/Sagemcom PicoPix 2055
 <Guest20927> cannot find input format
 <Guest20927> cannot initialize input
 <Guest20927> am7xxx_play faile
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:18] <kungfoojoo> i will just do it via the ppa...  i was wondering if it owuld have been safe to get the .deb from debian's packages
[17:20] <computer1> does anyone happen to know how to speed up transfer to a flash drive in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:20] <hj> helo
[17:21] <Quatroking> sacarlson, hahahahaha, nevermind dude
[17:22] <Quatroking> turns out it just takes the content of any file containing "dir-info" in the filename and puts it in the generated html
[17:25] <kungfoojoo> is it safe to completely remove firefox from Ubuntu?
[17:25] <sacarlson> kungfoojoo: sure
[17:25] <kungfoojoo> thanks
[17:26] <hb9bjq> hello
[17:28] <kungfoojoo> i noticed that some sources recommend using "sudo apt-get --purge auroremove" to completely remove a program, rather than just, "sudo apt-get purge".  In the case of Thunderbird, "--purge autoremove" will remove 235 MB of space, as opposed to "apt-get purge".  Is "--purge autoremove" safe?  Or will i wind up removing something i need?
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> hi, I've upgraded a bunch of packages to their 14.04 versions and graphical login now fails, and this shows up in the lightdm logs: Seat: Failed to find session configuration ubuntu
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> where is the list of sessions available?
[17:29] <k1l> kungfoojoo: autoremove will remove other packages that are not needed anymore, too. only purge will just remove the stuff from that specific package
[17:29] <balrog-k1n> I guess I can just change it in the lightdm config to something else
[17:29] <soonny> hello
[17:30] <balrog-k1n> lightdm.conf says user-session=ubutnu
[17:30] <sacarlson> kungfoojoo: it shouldn't remove anything you need in ether case
[17:32] <computer1> does anyone happen to know how to speed up transfer to a flash drive in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:32] <sacarlson> computer1: compress the data first?
[17:32] <swift110-phone> Hmmm
[17:34] <sacarlson> computer1: I'm better at making it slower by using the slower driver.  it defaults to the fastest driver that the hardware supports.  you may have a faster port on your computer
[17:34] <sacarlson> some computers like mine have both usb 2 and usb 3 ports
[17:34] <computer1> ok ill try
[17:35] <sacarlson> computer1: most flash disks are only usb2 but some fancy new ones might be usb 3
[17:37] <sacarlson> computer1: oh and make sure not to use a usb hub as some are only rated at usb 1
[17:41] <snake> Occupé
[17:45] <userf> spectrwm is very outdated in ubuntu 14.04
[17:47] <userf> best lightwm should by newest version
[17:47] <OerHeks> userf, file a bugreport, never heard of sectrwm before you mentioned it
[17:47] <Pici> userf: Have you filed a bug?
[17:48] <OerHeks> 1.0 > 2.5 is a huge step
[17:48] <userf> Pici: yes, its about usability and new features
[17:49] <Pici> userf: I don't see any new bugs for spectrwm in launchpad.
[17:49] <userf> Pici: becouse it is not bug, just newer package
[17:50] <multihunter> Hello, ipv6 suddenly stopped working on my vps. ping6 returns network unreachable
[17:50] <multihunter> anyone can help?
[17:50] <k1l> userf: file a bug/request on launchpad. then see if the maintainer needs help or if there is any active maintainer at all.
[17:50] <k1l> userf: tl;dr: you want it? help it!
[17:50] <userf> k1l: ok
[17:51] <Pici> userf: Looks like it was only updated to 2.6 in Debian on Sept 9th.
[17:51] <sacarlson> multihunter: my ISP doesn't even support ipv6,  I guess only 10% of trafic uses it and most everything is still reachable
[17:52] <multihunter> sacarlson, it used to work till today!
[17:52] <sacarlson> multihunter: but if you really need it you can setup a gogo account to tunnel into it
[17:52] <multihunter> sacarlson, I have ipv6 for my box. Something's wrong with the server I guess
[17:53] <multihunter> its OVH
[17:53] <darcik> d
[17:55] <darcik> urabura
[17:56] <k1l> !pl | darcik
[17:56] <Corvette> So I created two partitions on my SSD. One for Windows, one for Ubuntu. One is NTFS, the other EXT4. I installed Windows on the NTFS partition first. For some reason it looks like it installed its bootloader on my HDD instead, without asking. I installed Ubuntu on the EXT4 partition, and selected the Ubuntu partition as the GRUB location as well. When I try to boot from ssd, nothing happens, it only boots Windows from the HDD. What do I do
[17:56] <jhutchins> multihunter: How do you know it's not working?
[17:56] <jhutchins> multihunter: Ah, no ping returns.  Can you ping6 localhost?
[17:56] <multihunter> jhutchins, because ping6 ipv6.google.com says network unreachable
[17:57] <multihunter> I figured that it doesnt have any ipv6 loopback set. Can it be the reason?
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !hn
[17:57] <sacarlson> Corvette: maybe you can change the boot order in bios
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !fr
[17:57] <Corvette> scarlson when I try to boot from the SSD nothing happens
[17:57] <MMukherjee> #bn
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !bn*
[17:57] <MMukherjee> !bn
[17:58] <multihunter> jhutchins, I can ping6 localhost
[17:58] <sacarlson> multihunter: ya it's possible it's set not to respond to pings
[17:58] <jhutchins> multihunter: Interesting, it should set up an ipv6 address for loopback automatically.
[17:58] <jhutchins> WHat's the IP6?
[17:58] <multihunter> many :D
[17:59] <multihunter> jhutchins, they're added via a script and too many I cant even see all of them
[17:59] <jhutchins> multihunter: That sounds like a potential problem.
[18:00] <xXBackDoorXX> when start ubuntu 14.10?
[18:00] <streulma> hello we have a Canon network/usb printer/scanner. But scangear in Ubuntu is not good (to gray). Is it good to download a Windows XP Virtual Machine from modern.ie and use this for USB scanning?
[18:00] <sacarlson> multihunter: can you ping6 2404:6800:4001:805::1002   that's google.com
[18:00] <jhutchins> multihunter: Why?  IP based vhosts?
[18:00] <multihunter> sacarlson, no
[18:00] <multihunter> jhutchins, yes
[18:00] <sacarlson> multihunter: then you may not have ipv6 on your ISP today
[18:00] <xXBackDoorXX> when go ubuntu 14.10?
[18:01] <jhutchins> streulma: What you see from a VM is not a reliable indication of USB hardware.
[18:01] <multihunter> sacarlson, anyway to check it?
[18:01] <k1l> xXBackDoorXX: 23.10.2014
[18:01] <MMukherjee> !hindi
[18:01] <Pici> !in
[18:01] <jhutchins> streulma: does sudo lsusb show it?
[18:01] <MMukherjee> !in
[18:02] <MMukherjee> Ah
[18:02] <streulma> jhutchins it works also with Sane, but to grey, in XP is ok
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: Did you get your IPv6 issue resolved?
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: I have IPv6 on my network and can ping your server if you can give me an IP.
[18:02] <sacarlson> multihunter: http://test-ipv6.com/
[18:02] <jhutchins> streulma: I don't know what "to grey" means.
[18:02] <rypervenche> multihunter: I also have an OVH server set up with IPv6 if the problem is server-side.
[18:03] <multihunter> rypervenche, ipv6 is wortking on your server?
[18:03] <daos> Anyone have idea when to expect OpenSSL 1.0.1j for 12.04
[18:03] <daos> ?
[18:03] <rypervenche> multihunter: Yep.
[18:03] <rypervenche> multihunter: Have you ever had IPv6 working on the server or was it working before and not anymore?
[18:04] <carefreehawk> hi guys can i ask something
[18:04] <reisio> carefreehawk: remains to be seen
[18:04] <jhutchins> daos: Should be out already.  OpenSSL's versions don't exactly match the Ubuntu package version.
[18:04] <multihunter> rypervenche, it was working till today
[18:04] <jhutchins> multihunter: What changed?
[18:04] <multihunter> jhutchins, nothing
[18:04] <userf> doge:  Have you filed a bug?
[18:05] <MMukherjee> !hi
[18:06] <sacarlson> multihunter: also see if your dns lookup for ipv6 works   dig AAAA  google.com
[18:06] <ice799> Hi, what is the proper channel to really specific deb packaging questions? I have packaged a program for my Ubuntu system but apt appears to be behaving strangely and I'm not sure where to ask.
[18:06] <Pici> daos: I don't know if we'll get the j version, but it might be patched right into the version we already have.
[18:06] <daos> jhutchins: I just updated my system and the package was apparently built on Jun 20 2014
[18:06] <jhutchins> daos: Were you talking about the hartbleed vulnerability or the newly announced poodle problem?
[18:06] <daos> Pici: ah--would that be announced in the security notices?
[18:06] <daos> not seeing anything there yet
[18:06] <daos> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[18:07] <streulma> jhutchins gray?
[18:07] <multihunter> sacarlson, dns works fine
[18:07] <Pici> daos: It should be.
[18:07] <rypervenche> So multihunter doesn't have IPv6 on his home network.
[18:07] <streulma> I have many ipv6 on hosting :D
[18:07] <tafa2> ipv6 confuses the hell out of me
[18:08] <tafa2> but the guys on #ipv6 are really helpful
[18:08] <Pici> jhutchins: the new problem probably, new upstream packages just landed today.
[18:08] <daos> Pici: jhutchins: so the fact that I'm not seeing anything realted to OpenSSL in the security notices yet indicates that they haven't incorporated that patch. Is that a correct assumption?
[18:08] <sacarlson> ice799: I've created deb packages but can't use apt to install it I use sudo gdebi packagename.deb
[18:08] <multihunter> rypervenche, I have some bots on my server that are connected to irc with ipv6 (to have custom vhosts). Today they ping timed out and when I checked the server I reallized something's wrong with its ipv6.
[18:08] <Pici> daos: That is correct.
[18:08] <jhutchins> Pici: Are you refering to CVE-2014-3566?
[18:08] <rypervenche> multihunter: Ok, so they're going from your server to an IRC server, that is different.
[18:08] <daos> Pici: OK cool, thanks. I'll keep my eyes on USN for now. Thank you very much for your help :)
[18:08] <daos> Have a good day!
[18:09] <multihunter> yes rypervenche
[18:09] <Pici> jhutchins: yes. 3513, 3566, and 3567.
[18:09] <rypervenche> multihunter: Can you paste the output of "ip a" and of your interfaces file to a pastebin please?
[18:13] <jhutchins> Pici: No patch available, it's a configuration issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/537196/how-do-i-patch-workaround-sslv3-poodle-vulnerability-cve-2014-3566
[18:13] <multihunter> rypervenche, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8566318/
[18:14] <codylmoore> hi
[18:14] <codylmoore> hi
[18:15] <multihunter> btw I can't ping the gateway
[18:15] <rypervenche> multihunter: In that case, restart networking.
[18:15] <codylmoore> what?
[18:15] <codylmoore> http://www.facebook.com
[18:15] <codylmoore> v
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <codylmoore> f
[18:15] <unopaste> codylmoore you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> I don't think apache2 in ubuntu has ssl by default anyway
[18:16] <sacarlson> SchrodingersScat: I think the modules are there but no certs
[18:17] <codylmoore> hey im sorry for spammin.g it wont happen again
[18:18] <aethersis> hi
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> hello
[18:18] <codylmoore> hwo do you request to kick people off a chat server?
[18:19] <codylmoore> hwo do you request to kick people off a chat server?
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> codylmoore: what protocol chat?
[18:19] <codylmoore> liek if someone is spamming hwo do you requestr to kick them off
[18:19] <codylmoore> *like
[18:19] <codylmoore> *request\
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> ask an op of the channel
[18:20] <pedahzur> So, I was here yesterday with this question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/537166/usb-audio-device-not-fully-working-after-hotplug  A friend found what appears to be a related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/841433  So, I guess my question now is: how do I slow down the initialization (udev rule? pulseaudio config?) so the usb device is fully initialized when pulseaudio goes to look at it?
[18:20] <codylmoore> ok
[18:22] <jhutchins> multihunter: I agree with the idea of restarting networking, but that often causes problems with multiple-alias interfaces, and if the problem is that something in your networking config is broken you might loose connectivity to the server.  It's a windows solution, but I think a reboot might actually be safer.
[18:23] <jhutchins> multihunter: Who set up the multi-ip configuration in the first place?
[18:23] <multihunter> jhutchins, myself :)
[18:23] <jhutchins> multihunter: If you can give me one of the ipv6 addresses I can try to ping it.
[18:25] <multihunter> jhutchins, I did that myself. Its not pinging
[18:25] <sarnex> hi, i want to use the canonical x staging PPA to install xserver 1.16 on ubuntu 14.04, how can i do this without it breaking aton of packages and uninstalling many core compenents?
[18:26] <multihunter> jhutchins, if I restart networking my other services currently connected to irc (ipv4) will be disconnected, right?
[18:27] <pedahzur> multihunter: Not necessarily...I've restarted networking on an SSH connected host, and it just retries until networking is up, then I get a burst of text from the restart command.
[18:27] <sacarlson> sarnex: maybe try it in a virtualbox system and see what the results are there before you try it on your system that you presently use
[18:27] <sarnex> sacarlson: ok i will try it
[18:27] <sarnex> i wish there was a simple way to do it though
[18:28] <sacarlson> sarnex: I'm sure there is if someone knew the answer
[18:28] <sarnex> yeah hopefully someone knows
[18:33] <Pici> jhutchins:fyi, there is a small patch for 2014-3566 being worked on right now. The release will also include changes for 3513, 3567 and 3568.
[18:35] <jhutchins> multihunter: Some services can ignore a restart of the connection, but some might drop.
[18:36] <multihunter> well I just lost connection to it :D
[18:36] <jhutchins> multihunter: What pedahzur said.
[18:36] <multihunter> rebooting now from console
[18:36] <jhutchins> Pici: According to what I've read, you have to update the client too, so might as well just disable SSLv3.
[18:36] <pedahzur> multihunter: Hmm...do you have a server-keepalive packet set to a really short interval?  It's always kept up ssh connections...but I suppose other types could vary.
[18:37] <multihunter> pedahzur, dont know.
[18:37] <multihunter> BTW reboot didnt solve the ping6 problem
[18:41] <sacarlson> multihunter: I'm not sure this would help but apt-get install gogoc  if that works then would the prove that the problem is the ISP?
[18:43] <gravy_> How do I uninstall a package installed from source?
[18:43] <gravy_> Or tarball?
[18:43] <pedahzur> gravy_: Did you do make/make install?
[18:43] <gravy_> I may have.
[18:43] <multihunter> sacarlson, I'll send them a ticket. Thats better
[18:43] <gravy_> I did mess with that.
[18:43] <sacarlson> gravy_: you sure that's the only option  did you check ppa?
[18:43] <gravy_> I did apt-get remove.
[18:44] <gravy_> So I must have installed from source or an installer tarball
[18:44] <pedahzur> gravy_: If you did, and still have the source, you might be able to go into that source directory and do 'make uninstall'  Some maintainers include an 'uninstall' target in their Makefiles.
[18:44] <gravy_> .THe directory is not there anymore.
[18:45] <gravy_> Oh, I found it with synaptic.
[18:46] <Corvette> How do you make USB 3.0 ports work in Ubuntu? Do you have to turn off xHCI
[18:47] <Jordan_U> Corvette: They should work out of the box, if they're not for you then that is a bug and how to fix it will depend on the details of the bug.
[18:47] <gravy_> It worked.
[18:48] <gravy_> Can someone help me set up Lazarus?
[18:48] <Corvette> Jordan_U I see. Suppose I'll have to live without them
[18:48] <gravy_> So that I can make GUI apps in it.
[18:48] <Jordan_U> Corvette: I wouldn't give up so easily :) What version of Ubuntu are you using? Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[18:48] <sacarlson> Corvette: I would guess if a usb 2.0 device is on the usb3.0 port that it would be forced to run as usb 2.0
[18:49] <sacarlson> Corvette: for all devices on that port
[18:50] <Corvette> Hm well before I tackle that... i switched my boot mode to UEFI only and now my CD drives don't work.
[18:53] <pedahzur> gravy_: Never used it, sorry.  Do you have a particular attachment to Object Pascal? :)
[18:54] <gravy_> No, I need it for school.
[18:55] <gravy_> Lazarus worked perfectly fine in Arch linux.
[18:55] <pedahzur> gravy_: Wow...they are still teaching Pascal?
[18:55] <gravy_> Pascal is a beginner's language created to teach the concepts of programming.
[18:55] <pedahzur> gravy_: There is a lazarus-ide-1.0.10 package in Ubuntu.
[18:55] <gravy_> I use C++.
[18:55] <gravy_> It is broken. I cannot make GUI applications in it.
[18:55] <gravy_> ANd there are errors on startup.
[18:56] <pedahzur> gravy_: Might this help: http://mapopa.blogspot.com/2012/08/lazarus-10-release-candidate-2.html
[18:57] <gravy_> Lazarus is missing packages when it installs.
[18:59] <pedahzur> Even when following those instructions?
[18:59] <sacarlson> gravy_: looks like I see it in ppa https://launchpad.net/~paul-climbing/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:59] <gravy_> sacarlson, you're saying I should install it from that repo?
[18:59] <gravy_> pedahzur, that looks like voodoo.
[19:00] <sacarlson> gravy_: if it's not in the standard repo then that's always my secound choice it's it's in ppa, if not there then you can try there deb package they also have
[19:00] <pedahzur> sacarlson: That's a really old version. Even old than what is in Ubuntu Universe right now.
[19:00] <pedahzur> *older
[19:00] <gravy_> I tried downloading the .deb package as well.
[19:01] <sjmikem> I'm getting some odd text  flickering in TT in Pidgin and Gedit, like it thinks the windowsize is constantly changing.  I'm using NVidia Geforce 620 w/ 340.46 drivers installed from Nvidia website.  ANy suggestions?
[19:01] <michael_j_p> My Google Chrome quit working after upgrading to 14.x   -   any suggestions?
[19:02] <sjmikem> Also, using dual monitors if it matters
[19:02] <jamesheston> I've got a USB to SATA cord, and I'm trying to pull some coding files off the hard drive of my Mac that just died so I can pick up where I left off. The drive shows up, but after a certain point, I'm lost permissions to navigate through the drive's files. I'm assuming this is because it using a different journaling than my Linux machine. I'm wondering if there's any danger of messing up the drive if I mount it in -rw
[19:02] <jamesheston> format. Anyone have any experience with this?
[19:03] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: You can't write safely to a journaled hfsplus filesystem from within linux, but you really shouldn't need to write to the fs to access the files on it.
[19:03] <sacarlson> gravy_: ya your lazarus looks to be in the stable repo already ,  just try that
[19:04] <nomic> mount drive from live cd
[19:04] <gravy_> sacarlson, hwo do I remove it afterwards if it does not work?
[19:04] <pedahzur> jamesheston: I'd mount it ro, as root.  If you are getting permission errors at that point, there might be some corruption.
[19:04] <pedahzur> gravy_: apt-get remove
[19:04] <sacarlson> gravy_: sudo apt-get remove lazarus
[19:04] <gravy_> oh
[19:04] <gravy_> ohhk
[19:05] <gravy_> Can I do a one-time only ppa install?
[19:05] <jamesheston> so, sudo mount -ro /dev/sdb1 /media/usb/
[19:05] <jamesheston> something like that?
[19:05] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: That should work, yes. Then you may need to use sudo to copy some of the files.
[19:05] <jamesheston> God it would suck if it was corrupted.
[19:06] <jamesheston> I've been really slack about backing things up last few months. Would be like 3 months of development down the drain.
[19:06] <jamesheston> Oh well, at least my recent large projects are repod I guess.
[19:07] <jamesheston> So, if I'm getting permissions errors when navigating around the drive it's most likely because of data corruption?
[19:07] <antoniodmora> mornig everyone
[19:07] <antoniodmora> do you know what happened to ubuntu reconstructor??
[19:08] <Trinityfan>  /join #discorsi-sull-informatica-in-generale
[19:09] <LucidGuy> Ok whats up with java via firefox on Ubuntu .. follwed instruction to install icedtea-plugin, yet website still claim I don't have a new enough version installed.
[19:09] <jhutchins> !java
[19:09] <OerHeks> antoniodmora, "LAST UPDATED ON:December 19th, 2011"  dead project
[19:10] <Quatroking> does python happen to cache scripts?
[19:10] <Trinityfan>  /join #discorsi-sull-informatica-in-generale
[19:10] <YokoBR> hi guys,
[19:10] <OerHeks> Trinityfan, please don't spam, thanks
[19:11] <OerHeks> hi YokoBR
[19:11] <YokoBR> i can't use any torrent behind a proxy. Seems that the system wide proxy settings is not working.
[19:12] <antoniodmora> OerHeks: yes, I saw... any other alternative to reconstructor??
[19:12] <OerHeks> !uck
[19:12] <antoniodmora> thanks ubottu
[19:14] <antoniodmora> and what if I want to install the customized ubuntu??
[19:14] <OerHeks> antoniodmora, burn the iso on dvd, or make an usb, and enjoy ?
[19:15] <joshcrawling> Hi!
[19:15] <sacarlson> antoniodmora: they should install just like the normal ubuntu with usb or cdrom iso
[19:15] <irssi_> Hi, I would like to install a package delivered by a ppa. But do not provide this package for my older version (13.04) How to download anyway? (I think the package will run on my version)
[19:15] <joshcrawling> Someone can tell me how I change a key on vim? Like when I put - change to _
[19:15] <antoniodmora> ok, let me try
[19:15] <sjmikem> any help for my video flickering issues?
[19:15] <antoniodmora> thanks a lot OerHeks and sacarlson
[19:16] <sacarlson> irssi_: maybe provide us with the name of the package would be useful
[19:16] <Jordan_U> !remaster | antoniodmora
[19:17] <irssi_> sacarlson: 0ad
[19:17] <k1l> irssi_: 13.04 is heavy security issue. you should upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[19:19] <irssi_> k1l: I know, but I do not have time to do the update now. And how to bypass the version check with apt-get me interested
[19:19] <Jordan_U> irssi_: You know all of those major vulnerabilities that have been found recently? Ubuntu 13.04 doesn't have fixes for any of them (and is also missing fixes for less publicised vulnerabilities). Seriously, you need to upgrade.
[19:19] <sjmikem> is there other information I can provide that might give you enough info to help?
[19:19] <k1l> irssi_: you got time to play a game but not to update to a secure OS? o_O
[19:19] <OerHeks> irssi_, i am not sure the eolupgrade trick solves ppa issues too
[19:19] <sacarlson> irssi_: some kind of graphic game,  you could try install the deb file and see what dependancies it needs that might not be present
[19:20] <k1l> irssi_: usually PPAs provide their packages only for specific ubuntu releases. in most times its that releases that are still supported
[19:20] <Aut0Exec> h
[19:21] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: hahahaha
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> :)
[19:21] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: you really went over here?
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> oh yeah
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> i love ubuntu man
[19:21] <Aut0Exec> always have... always will
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> its my first love... even when I cheat on her, I always come back
[19:22] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: I like it too, although the bleeding edge is hard to resist
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> you can make ubuntu "bleeding edge"
[19:22] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: and where is the AUR
[19:22] <Aut0Exec> just uncheck the dreaded repos
[19:23] <irssi_> k1l: Yes, fully reconfigure a machine takes time, but the upgrade is on my todo weekend k1l :)
[19:23] <Aut0Exec> rsrsl: also... sometimes "bleeding edge" is not that great
[19:23] <balance> hi, I'm running Ubuntu console and wondering if I can start a new window? Like you can have several desktops
[19:23] <Aut0Exec> I'm after stability
[19:24] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: hahahaha true! I locked myself out of X today; a fucked up conf merge XD
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> exactly
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> thats what I hate about arch
[19:24] <Aut0Exec> come back to ubuntu brother....we miss you
[19:24] <rsrsl> Aut0Exec: but you can't beat systemd
[19:24] <Jordan_U> rsrsl: Aut0Exec: Please keep on topic for this channel (ubuntu support questions and answers), and please watch your language.
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> Jordan_U: sorry
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> rsrsl: pm
[19:25] <rsrsl> Jordan_U: sorry
[19:25] <metallic> Jordan_U = moderator?
[19:25] <Aut0Exec> metallic: apparently
[19:26] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 14.04 - I changed the host IP and now want to restart networking so I don't have to restart the system
[19:26] <zetheroo> service networking restart doesn't seem to work
[19:26] <Jordan_U> metallic: Yes, though you don't need to be an operator to ask people to follow the channel guidelines :)
[19:27] <zetheroo> also tried with reload
[19:27] <zetheroo> no joy
[19:27] <Fishscene> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[19:27] <zetheroo> ok will try that
[19:27] <Fishscene> zetheroo: There's a couple of other options, possibly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh
[19:33] <Will2Kill> HI all
[19:34] <bprompt_> allo
[19:36] <Jordan_U> jamesheston: No, definitely not. It's because the user ID of the user that owns the files is different from your Ubuntu user's user ID. That's why I said that you might need to use sudo to copy some of the files. Are you trying to backup all of the data on the drive, or specific already known directories, or do you need to be able to browse around to determine what you want to copy?
[19:37] <Will2Kill> I'm hoping someone with a lot of Grub knowledge could help. Simple description. I have Asus x200 netbook (Secure boot/CSM option in bios), trying to end up with Win 8.1 / Ubuntu dual boot(have done it many times in past).Seem to have problems now.
[19:38] <Will2Kill> I have Win8.1 installed and Ubuntu on two partitions.(tried reinstalling Ubuntu 3x to fix this problem)
[19:39] <jost> Is there some way to find out who last changed the permissions of a directory or file
[19:39] <jost> ?
[19:39] <Will2Kill> For some reason Grub is not installing on the windows partition
[19:39] <Jordan_U> jost: Not directly, though by the permissions you can rule out some users, as they would not have been able to. What is your end goal?
[19:40] <sacarlson> jost: only 3 posible the owner ,  the group if permisions set to allow and root
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Grub should never be installed on the Windows partition. What symptoms are you actually seeing that indicate a problem? What happens when you try to boot?
[19:40] <jost> Jordan_U: sacarlson: then its root... shit.
[19:40] <Jordan_U> jost: Please watch your language.
[19:41] <jost> Jordan_U: will do, sorry
[19:41] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: I am not getting a Grub menu
[19:41] <jost> Attacker changes mode of / to 0777 every few minutes, and I want to know how
[19:42] <Will2Kill> I think part of the problem is where the partitions are at on the HD.
[19:42] <Will2Kill> Whats the best way to post them?
[19:42] <Will2Kill> I have installed ubuntu 3x without it booting with a grub menu
[19:42] <loa> hello.
[19:43] <loa> how i can move apparmor log from syslog to different file?
[19:44] <loa> i tried this file /etc/apparmor/logprof.conf
[19:44] <sacarlson> Will2Kill: maybe you choose the partion to instead of the drive to install the mbr or is that even posible?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine? Do you have more than one hard drive?
[19:45] <sacarlson> Will2Kill: oh did you get that error code thing at boot?
[19:47] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Just one harddrive. It's a Netbook. Not sure about the question. I see EFI options in the bios
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Then it uses UEFI. Are you currently booted from an Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[19:48] <Will2Kill> I can boot up to Ubuntu using a Grub2 rescue DVD I made
[19:48] <Will2Kill> I can boot up with a live session
[19:48] <Will2Kill> supergrub2
[19:49] <Will2Kill> dvd
[19:50] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please boot into your installed Ubuntu system using supergrub then, then run "sudo efibootmgr" and pastebin the output.
[19:51] <NCS_One> hi
[19:52] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: will do, thank you so much
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You're welcome.
[19:53] <dylan7> thanks
[19:54] <dikim33> I have one machine with gcc-4.6.4 installed but some other ubuntu machines with gcc-4.6.3. They are all ubuntu-12.04 LTS and I believe that they use the same apt-get source and I updated the repo cache with “apt-get update” all.
[19:54] <dikim33> Do you know why this kind of thing happens and how to upgrade 4.6.3 to 4.6.4?
[19:54] <demarco> Hi all, I have two machines of the same release. ``apt-get update'' fails on one but not the other; certain Packages files are 404'ing. But when I ``wget'' the 404'ing URL on that machine, I can download the Packages.gz just fine. Where do I look to see what's going on with apt-get?
[19:55] <guntbert> demarco: 1st step: sudo apt-get update   to refresh the database
[19:55] <guntbert> demarco: sory, I misread
[19:55] <demarco> So ``W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.rackspace.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found''; yet ``wget'' on that URL returns successfully.
[19:56] <NCS_One> anyone using MX518 successfully get the DPI buttons working has normal buttons?
[19:56]  * demarco grins at guntbert
[19:56] <demarco> There's nothing in /var/log/apt/*.log
[19:57] <snoop> when I was updating ubuntu, the computer froze and I had to do a hard reboot. After that, my computer has been running extremely slow and i cannot use alot of applications. The font changes to a different font and then back to the original font again on my desktop. there are also error messages tha tpop up saying 'system program problem detected".  I also cannot access any external usb drives after this happened so I am unable to backup
[19:58] <Jordan_U> snoop: It sounds like you may have a hardware problem, possibly a power supply going bad. Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[19:58] <demarco> Anybody have any ideas about why apt-get update would fail with 404 despite wget fetching the Packages.gz just fine?
[19:58] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: my guess would be an incomplete update.
[19:59] <snoop> if the power supply is bad why can i turn the computer on and off
[20:01] <Jordan_U> snoop: Power supplies often don't die outright, they will first fail to give their full wattage of output, causing some components to not get enough power (the external USB drives not working is what makes me suspect this is happening). And of course it could be an entirely different problem, either way "dmesg" will hopefully be enlightening. Please also pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[20:02] <chridal> Hello, I could really use some help with a DHCP server running in production. 1,318 users depend on it, so I can't mess up
[20:02] <Naphatul> do i have to restart network manager for dns server changes to take effect?
[20:02] <chridal> I am getting: inux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic-pae but it is not installed
[20:03] <Jordan_U> chridal: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask.
[20:03] <chridal> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[20:03] <Jordan_U> chrissg: You're welcome :)
[20:04] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Wasn't able to boot into Ubuntu(It said it couldn't mount) but I was able to get the output of "efibootmgr"
[20:04] <Will2Kill> it's in a terminal not online
[20:04] <Naphatul> apparently yes it needs to be restared
[20:05] <rubick> Is it recommended to use mariadb vs mysql for 14.04 server?
[20:05] <OerHeks> rubick,  that is up to you
[20:05] <Kratos> Ciao a tutti
[20:05] <Kratos> !list
[20:06] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please paste the output into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com then post a link to the output here.
[20:06] <bprompt> ciao Kratos
[20:06] <Naphatul> does networkmanager really have to be restarted every time i change dns or is there a workaround?
[20:06] <Kratos> !list
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Naphatul: How are you changing your DNS configuration?
[20:07] <Naphatul> Jordan_U, through the UI
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Naphatul: I thought that updated as you changed settings, if not I would expect just disconnecting and reconnecting to that network would cause the new settings to come into affect.
[20:12] <Corvette> Is it bad to have your /home partition on a different drive
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Corvette: No.
[20:12] <jhutchins> Corvette: No known issues.
[20:13] <k1l> Corvette: no. just make sure the drive is plugged in when booting :)
[20:14] <Vachaun22> ubuntu 14.04 LTS with nVidia drivers, anyone have an issue with their display not staying in low power mode when idle?
[20:14] <jhutchins> Corvette: The main reason for having so many different partitions stems from using drives that were too small to hold all the needed partitions.
[20:14] <Corvette> Okay. In doing my ubuntu install, I installed / to sda1, swap to sda2, (windows is my sda3). The location for the bootloader I selected as sda. Is this right
[20:14] <jhutchins> Corvette: That's "small" in the sense of capacity, the actual drives were the size of washing machines.
[20:15] <jhutchins> Corvette: Yes, that's correct.
[20:15] <Corvette> Does there need to be free space on the drive for installing the bootloader to work
[20:15] <Corvette> Or will it find space
[20:15] <jhutchins> Corvette: It goes in the MBR which is reserved anyway.
[20:15] <Corvette> jhutchins so is that where the windows bootloader is as well
[20:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: Yes, that's why it gets overwritten, or why grub does if you reinstall Windows.
[20:16] <Corvette> So having done that, windows bootloader should be gone
[20:16] <Vachaun22> and also, what's the point of the bar on the right hand side of the screen?  i can't run any of the applications that are on it by clicking their icons on that bar
[20:16] <jhutchins> Corvette: The initial stage, yes.
[20:17] <Corvette> jhutchins so provided that is the case, the machine should boot into ubuntu, and then I can do sudo grub repair and it will find the windows loader, right?
[20:17] <jhutchins> Corvette: It's actually possible (or was ca NT4) to chainload grub from the Windows MBR, but it's a real pain to set up and grub is just easier to deal with.
[20:17] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | Will2Kill
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Corvette: There will be an entry for Windows in the grub menu from the beginning, barring any problems.
[20:19] <underground> hey I am wondering if linux has something like spotify
[20:20] <k1l> the question should be if spotify got some client for linux.
[20:20] <Vachaun22> what's the new bar on the right side of the unity desktop?
[20:21] <Will2Kill> .
[20:21] <k1l> Vachaun22: which bar?
[20:21] <Vachaun22> it looks like some kind of launcher....translucent
[20:21]  * OerHeks only has a bar on the left side
[20:21] <Vachaun22> has icons for firefox, terminal, and about 6 others....
[20:22] <Vachaun22> i only had on the left until i upgraded last night
[20:22] <k1l> Vachaun22: are you sure about the "right"handside?
[20:22] <Kaedenn> Can I have apt-cache search <package> denote which packages I have installed in the listing, so I don't apt-get install something I already installed?
[20:22] <Kaedenn> Without writing a script that does a dpkg-query on each line.
[20:22] <Guest46803> hello world
[20:22] <OerHeks> Vachaun22, can you show us a screenshot please?
[20:22] <k1l> Vachaun22: can you make a screenshot?
[20:22] <Vachaun22> where can i post a screenshot to?
[20:23] <OerHeks> imgur.com
[20:23] <EriC^^> imgur.com
[20:23] <Vachaun22> ok
[20:25] <squinty> Kaedenn: fwiw, i still use aptitude >  aptitude search <program> | grep "i "
[20:25] <Kaedenn> squinty: The folks over at #debian said the same exact thing. Thank you.
[20:26] <squinty> Kaedenn:  yw.  :)
[20:27] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok , paste bin 8567018
[20:28] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok , paste bin pastebin.ubuntu.com/8567018
[20:29] <Vachaun22> imgur.com/IVPFuaj
[20:29] <snoop> when I was updating ubuntu, the computer froze and I had to do a hard reboot. After that, my computer has been running extremely slow and i cannot use alot of applications. The font changes to a different font and then back to the original font again on my desktop. there are also error messages tha tpop up saying 'system program problem detected".  I also cannot access any external usb drives after this happened so I am unable to backup
[20:29] <k1l> Vachaun22: did you install a launcher? that is not the standard unity launcher. that is on the lefthand side
[20:30] <Vachaun22> k1l: no, it appeared after i upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 last night
[20:30] <Jordan_U> snoop: Are you having trouble pastebining the output of "dmesg" and "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[20:30] <k1l> Vachaun22: can you pastebin please "ps ax" ?
[20:31] <OerHeks> Vachaun22, that would be docky >> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/docky
[20:31] <snoop> yes because my comp is so slow
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: OK, it looks from that like the Ubuntu entry just isn't first in the boot order but the fact that you said in PM that you deleted the partition containing /boot/efi/ worries me. Why did you do this? What EFI System Partition is Windows using? You need to have an EFI system partition mounted to /boot/efi/, and configured to do so automatically in your /etc/fstab.
[20:34] <Vachaun22> k1l: and OerHeks: it was wbar, must be a remnant of a much older time... i will have to figure out how to edit start up apps in ubunut (i don't normally run ubuntu, so everything is in a different place for me)
[20:34] <Jordan_U> Vachaun22: My guess is that you installed the laucher a long time ago and forgot about it (maybe it didn't work due to a bug), and the upgrade is just actually showing it (maybe the bug that prevented it from showing before was fixed).
[20:34] <Vachaun22> now if i can just figure out how to get my monitor to not to flicker on and off when it goes to sleep
[20:35] <Will2Kill> Jordan_I: I used a Windows Rescue CD I made and it restored the bootmanager. EFI or something.
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Vachaun22: You should be able to just "sudo apt-get remove wbar".
[20:35] <Will2Kill> At first I wasn't able to boot Windows or Ubuntu
[20:35] <Will2Kill> after using repair on Rescue DVD I made with that windows, it restored something. Able to boot windows now
[20:36] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: OK. Please run boot info script: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[20:36] <Vachaun22> Jordan_U: yeah, i just disabled it from starting for right now
[20:37] <Vachaun22> ok, time to exercise.  i will muck with the screen not staying asleep later
[20:39] <cinvoke> trying to get ssh to use my local config file.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: That will tell me what ESP Windows is using, then we can configure your /etc/fstab to mount that same partition to /boot/efi/, then (and no earlier) we can run "sudo grub-install" to re-install grub.
[20:40] <Kaedenn> My ubuntu 13.10 box is still vulnerable to shellshock and there are no updates listed. Has it been EOL'd?
[20:40] <k1l> Kaedenn: yes
[20:40] <Jordan_U> !eol | Kaedenn
[20:40] <Kaedenn> Can I get an update for this security issue without doing a dist-upgrade?
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: upgrade to 14.04 and use LTS (like 14.04) in future if you dont want to upgrade that often
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: no.
[20:41] <OerHeks> Kaedenn, upgrade please
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: There are many other unfixed vulnerabilities in 13.10. You need to upgrade.
[20:41] <k1l> Kaedenn: it doesnt make sence at all to just close 1 security issue since 2 months and let the other 1000 security issues untouched.
[20:41] <Kaedenn> Every single dist-upgrade I've ever done has resulted in the system being unstable. >_<
[20:42] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: Have you followe the upgrade notes when upgrading?
[20:42] <Kaedenn> I just used the UI.
[20:42] <k1l> Kaedenn: if you got that special setups (the standard upgrade gets automated testing and works) stay on LTS in first place.
[20:42] <Kaedenn> I bought this laptop from System76 and it was preinstalled with 13.10 >_<
[20:44] <OerHeks> Kaedenn, that makes no sense, you haven't done any upgrade yet, and complain about beiing unstable?
[20:44] <Kaedenn> I've upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 in the past, 9.10 to 10.04 on my previous laptop, then that to 11.04.
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Kaedenn: I predict that this upgrade will go better than your others. Still, I would recommend making an Ubuntu 14.04 liveUSB to boot from in case something goes wrong, and you can always use it to re-install (which you can do while preserving the contents of /home/, even if it's not on a separate partition).
[20:46] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ok, pastebin.ubuntu.com/8567093
[20:46] <Pici> Kaedenn: I'm sort of not following, but you keep using the term 'dist-upgrade' when you mean release upgrade.  'dist-upgrades' are not for upgrading to a new release of Ubuntu.
[20:47] <Kaedenn> Pici: I thought dist-upgrade was the command to run.
[20:47] <Kaedenn> Guess not.
[20:47] <Pici> Kaedenn: dist-upgrade just brings in new packages for your current release.  do-release-upgrade upgrades to a new release.
[20:47] <Pici> !dist-upgrade
[20:48] <Kaedenn> ...that would explain some of the problems I had.
[20:48] <Pici> Kaedenn: You said you were using the UI though...
[20:48] <k1l> Kaedenn: dont use the old debian way to upgrade a ubuntu. run the gui upgrader or the do-release-upgrade in cli
[20:49] <Kaedenn> 8.10 to 9.04 was with the ui. 10.10 to 11.04 was via the command line.
[20:51] <Kaedenn> Odd, `do-release-upgrade -c` says "No new release found", even when I add -d or -p.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You have a bizzzare configuration, I have no idea how Windows is booting successfully in this setup (it's not supported by Windows).
[20:52] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Just so it makes sense when looking at the log file.  My current set up is , I have Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu on two different partitions
[20:52] <k1l> Kaedenn: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[20:52] <Kaedenn> Ubuntu 13.10
[20:52] <Will2Kill> I booted into Ubuntu partition using Grub2 dvd,
[20:53] <Will2Kill> In the asus x200 bios, it only had Windows as the boot partition. I think efi part is missing
[20:54] <k1l> Kaedenn: what does the release prompt link to?
[20:54] <Kaedenn> Release prompt?  This configuration is not supported by Windows (though it is by Ubuntu). For Windows you should either have a GPT label with an EFI System Partition, which is fat32, and your machine will boot via UEFI or you should have an msdos label with a "System" partition that is ntfs, and your machine will boot via BIOS.
[20:55] <k1l> Kaedenn: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades          and then change the last line to normal
[20:55] <Kaedenn> Done.
[20:55] <k1l> ctrl-o, ctrl-x
[20:55] <Kaedenn> (although I prefer vim)
[20:56] <k1l> then re run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Please test booting Windows again. I want to be sure that this configuration actually is working with Windows.
[20:56] <Kaedenn> There we go, 14.04.1.
[20:56] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Yes, it boots into Windows 8.1
[20:56] <stormzen> I just realized that I have no network interface listed for wlan3 in interfaces, yet that's what I see in ifconfig.  ... Is this because the network manager is handling everything now?
[20:57] <Kaedenn> k1l: I'll upgrade once I have time. I don't at the moment.
[20:57] <Kaedenn> k1l: Thank you.
[20:57] <k1l> Kaedenn: ok. but dont push that too far away :)
[20:57] <s4my> guys where can i find help with making custom icons and themes for ubuntu 14.04+
[20:57] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Couldn't I use Gparted and create the needed partition?
[20:58] <acerspyro> s4my: It's a GNOME icon theme, I think.
[20:58] <ALI_> HELLO Ubuntu team
[20:58] <Finetundra> how do i change to resolution for grub?
[20:58] <acerspyro> ALI_: We are not a team, just ask
[20:58] <ALI_> please , i want driver for Skystar 2 express hd
[20:58] <s4my> acerspyro: well it's unity
[20:58] <acerspyro> s4my: Ooh, then I don't know :3
[20:58] <ALI_> this is card info Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7160 (rev 03)
[20:59] <s4my> acerspyro: are you kidding
[20:59] <s4my> a
[20:59] <s4my> acerspyro: ?
[20:59] <acerspyro> s4my: Didn't mess with Unity, I spent maybe a week with Ubuntu, I come from Arch.
[20:59] <ALI_> and im using Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS  64-bit
[20:59] <tomasm-> I have 14.04 and X seems slow in some regards, ie windows for shutdown prompt, screenshot, etc... I'm guessing it's the wrong display driver. i have a Radeon HD 8210, which is the Kabini chipset, anyone know how I can get the right driver for that? kernel is 3.13.0-35
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  so if we are talking about GNOME where can i find help
[21:00] <acerspyro> ALI_: If there is no driver that suits this card EXACTLY, try to find a driver that supports your card.
[21:00] <acerspyro> s4my: #gnome, I guess.
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  k
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  i'll try that
[21:00] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: Yes, but that might break your fragile Windows boot. Right now, unless you have another drive that is connected when you boot Windows but isn't connected now, your computer is booting via BIOS, and Windows is configured to boot via BIOS (even though your original installation of Windows was configured to boot via UEFI). Since you no longer have a UEFI bootloader for Windows, if you add an EFI System Partition your b
[21:00] <s4my> acerspyro:  thanks anyway
[21:01] <acerspyro> ALI_: Otherwise, if nothing supports it, there isn't much we can do other than 1. Ask the manufacturer 2. Wait for a team of highly-trained monkeys to reverse-engineer the chip and make a driver for it
[21:01] <acerspyro> s4my: np
[21:01] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: To be clear, this is a result of you deleting your EFI System Partition in the first place (which you should not have done) and then following the wrong steps to fix Windows' boot after doing so.
[21:02] <Will2Kill> Ok
[21:02] <ALI_> i'm tired form search if you can login my pc and try to see what you can do
[21:02] <s4my> acerspyro:  sorry to bother but i joined the #gnome channel but no body is there
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: I can think of two ways to get Ubuntu booting again, one by setting it up for UEFI, the other by setting it up for BIOS based boot, but there is reason to expect that either of those methods would break Windows booting as it stands now.
[21:03] <acerspyro> s4my: A lot of people in there.
[21:03] <acerspyro> They are AFK.
[21:04] <acerspyro> imo, I'm not suprised, KDE is also often AFK, you need to pick a better time of the day.
[21:04] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You said that you have another SSD, is that SSD connected when you boot Windows?
[21:04] <ghinzu> probably offtopic, but can anyone explain why license plate that reads BAD2THBN is considered cool? (english is not my native language). What does it stand for?
[21:04] <s4my> acerspyro: is it on freenode ?
[21:04] <acerspyro> Just ask in there and wait for maybe an hour or two
[21:04] <acerspyro> s4my: ?
[21:04] <cinvoke> anyone know why ssh would ignore my local profile's config file?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> No , it's on a netbook.
[21:04] <s4my> acerspyro: what server?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> the whole topic is on a netbook.
[21:04] <acerspyro> s4my: For what?
[21:04] <Will2Kill> Internal SSD now
[21:04] <OerHeks> ALI_, if you can read this, maybe this german page is any help >> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_eXpress_HD
[21:05] <acerspyro> It's all on Freenode
[21:05] <s4my> acerspyro: for #gnome
[21:05] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | ghinzu
[21:05] <stormzen> acerspyro, Did you figure out what your issue was with wireless?
[21:05] <ALI_>  <OerHeks> thanks i'll try and feedback to you
[21:06] <acerspyro> stormzen: It's not wireless
[21:06] <acerspyro> It's everything ntwork
[21:06] <acerspyro> I use wired, and it stops working when my computer goes to sleep
[21:06] <acerspyro> Classic. :(
[21:06] <stormzen> Oh, you're using wired?  I didn't make that connection.
[21:07] <acerspyro> > wired >didn't make that connection
[21:07] <acerspyro> I see what you did there
[21:07] <Giwrgaras> anyone using sublime text? do you know how to auto collapse and expand items?
[21:07] <stormzen> :)  not on purpose
[21:07] <acerspyro> lol
[21:07] <acerspyro> stormzen: So yeah, basically, when I try to reconnect from the applet, dmesg spits out some stuff.
[21:08] <stormzen> acerspyro, I'm confused with the role of network manager now.  I was told that as long as it's running, sudo service networking stop would fail.
[21:08] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Im at the point where I will try what ever you think is best. I have image of my Windows 8.1
[21:08] <stormzen> That let me to look into /etc/network/interfaces, only to find that only lo was defined...
[21:08] <acerspyro> stormzen: I tried sudo service network-manager restart
[21:09] <stormzen> ... So now I'm confused what commands work without the interfaces being defined in the interfaces file.
[21:09] <acerspyro> >auto lo >iface lo inet loopback
[21:09] <acerspyro> What is this?
[21:09] <acerspyro> (from /etc/network/interfaces
[21:09] <stormzen> It's the loopback interface.
[21:10] <stormzen> Don't mess with that file.  If you make a change that it doesn't understand, it won't boot anymore.
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: The most straighforward solution would be to re-install Windows, and make sure that when you do so it's configured for UEFI booting. Then fixing Ubuntu is relatively easy, you just have to edit /etc/fstab and re-run grub-install.
[21:10] <stormzen> It used to be where all the network interfaces were defined, such as lan0 and wlan3.
[21:11] <fstarr> I'm having this bizarre problem with my portable hard drives, and there's a lot of results on Google for the error, but there are no solutions that seem to work for me. I'm trying to transfer files onto a newly formatted external drive, but whenever I'm dragging files on, it just gives me an error saying the destination is read-only.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: You could of course re-install Ubuntu also, if the Windows install wipes the entire drive. Of course you should have good backups of all of your important data.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> fstarr: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[21:11] <loa> fstarr, it will sound strange, but try restart system.
[21:11] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: I tried reinstall ubuntu 3x(without a prob it seemed) but never got a grub menu
[21:12] <loa> i have recently exectly same thing, and only restart helped me.
[21:12] <acerspyro> (How many systems have I trashed because of bugs?)
[21:12] <acerspyro> *bug bug bug bug bug bug* Ok, screw it, next!
[21:13] <bubbasaures> fstarr, What is the file type on the portable?
[21:14] <fstarr> bubbasaures: i formatted it with GPT partitioning, and as an NTFS drive
[21:14] <JohnTheBeloved> Giwrgaras: Which version of sublime?
[21:15] <fstarr> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:15] <Giwrgaras> 3
[21:15] <bubbasaures> fstarr, Ah,do the dmesg and pastebin it, ntfs need chkdsk's run on occasion as well.
[21:15] <alephant> Hi all... what's the most reliable way to determine if package "foo" is installed? I've ``apt-get purge''ed it, but ``dpkg -l foo'' still reports it as "Unknown" (and returns 0). How do I either fully-remove it so that dpkg returns 1, or better test for whether it's installed?
[21:15] <fstarr> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:15] <barnex> hello, my computer seems slow to me and I can't pin it down, could someone help me to pin down the cause?
[21:15] <Giwrgaras> JohnTheBeloved,  3
[21:15] <EriC^^> alephant: apt-cache policy <package>
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: That's likely because of the very odd state of Windows at the moment, if you want I can explain what I think is happening. I expect that once Windows is installed properly Ubuntu will install correctly as well.
[21:16] <bubbasaures> Jordan_U, better read by you than me.. <fstarr> bubbasaures: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567229/
[21:17] <s4my> anybody here now shit about unity
[21:17] <alephant> EriC^^: awesome, thanks! Works like a charm!
[21:17] <s4my> am looking to make a costum icon pack
[21:17] <barnex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567237/ here's iotop, free and uptime
[21:17] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: ok, thank you for your help. I just thought there was maybe a tool I could run in Linux to get it working.
[21:17] <barnex> seems fine to me
[21:17] <Will2Kill> since both partitions are there and they both boot
[21:17] <Jordan_U> fstarr: Is the drive in question currently mounted? If so, please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts.
[21:18] <fstarr> Jordan_U: permission denied
[21:18] <acerspyro> s4my: Looked online?
[21:18] <fstarr> Jordan_U: my bad. got it. one mo
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Will2Kill: There is, but again I think it would break Windows boot.  Is there any way to change the installation target of grub afterwards? I installed it to /dev/sda but I need it to be installed on /dev/sda3.
[21:24] <barnex> just run grub-install or whatever is it called now
[21:24] <barnex> yeah, grub-install
[21:25] <barnex> you give the device as the argument I believe
[21:25] <barnex> Ctwx: or do you mean you want to change the path from which grub loads the OS?
[21:26] <fstarr> Jordan_U: did you see the /proc/mounts log?
[21:26] <Ctwx> barnex: No, the installation path. I have a Debian/Ubuntu dual boot system, but Ubuntu overwrites my Debian grub... :/
[21:27] <barnex> Uhm, not an expert, but you should be able to use one grub to load both systems. Have you tried that/don't want that for some reason?
[21:27] <fstarr> Jordan_U: just realised i posted an incorrect one. here's the correct one.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567289/
[21:28] <aethersis> hi acerspyro
[21:28] <acerspyro> aethersis: oh hi
[21:28] <aethersis> you wont believe from what device im typing lol
[21:28] <acerspyro> aethersis: Nintendo DS
[21:29] <acerspyro> Wii?
[21:29] <aethersis> no
[21:29] <acerspyro> oh
[21:29] <acerspyro> Uh
[21:29] <aethersis> eink tablet hahah
[21:29] <acerspyro> phone
[21:29] <acerspyro> androIRC
[21:29] <acerspyro> lol
[21:29] <fstarr> does anybody have any solutions to the 'destination is read-only' error? I'm trying to copy files to a freshly formatted external drive
[21:29] <k1l> !ot | acerspyro aethersis
[21:29] <NGC3982> You guys need to change your nick names.
[21:29] <ALI_> hello , when i try to install driver from hrere http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_eXpress_HD , i got error in last step ,,, when i run lsdvb , ERROR: Opening /sys/class/dvb directory
[21:29] <aethersis> it is ereader with eink display and android its crazy
[21:30] <acerspyro> oh shut it up, don't scrap another one's day.
[21:31] <aethersis> I broke my galaxy tab 3 but thisthing is perfect, what better can u get than ereader with 10 inch screen and android :D
[21:32] <aethersis> well, 10 inch eink and ubuntu :D and there is actually one with linux too
[21:32] <acerspyro> #rekt
[21:32] <aethersis> I need another irc client this one has toosmall fonts
[21:33] <k1l> aethersis: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. its unfair to the users waiting for help. got to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[21:34] <android42863> Hi all
[21:34] <android42863> am I visible in #Ubuntu chat?
[21:35] <android42863> Trying out this new app
[21:35] <k1l> android42863: yes
[21:35] <android42863> K, thank you
[21:35] <k1l> android42863: for test please use #test
[21:35] <android42863> There's probably no one in there;)
[21:36] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:36] <android42863> Hi there;)
[21:37] <android42863> What was the cmd to stop showing channel info?
[21:37] <android42863> As in who quit etc.
[21:37] <guest560> test
[21:37] <android42863> Can't find the option in this GUI I'm using
[21:38] <k1l> android42863: ask the android support in #android
[21:38] <barnex> again, I'm having troubles with performance, can't quite pin down the issue (seems like load is OK, there are 2 GBs of free ram and nothing is hogging IO)
[21:38] <barnex> Any ideas?
[21:38] <barnex> Because all I can get from google is 'reinstall your OS, or install debian' :P
[21:38] <android42863> Barnex what's your swapping?
[21:39] <android42863> Swappiness?
[21:39] <kaddi> hi guys, since the last few days my wifi has gotten very slow and unreliable. Regularly no data is transfered even though it claims to be connected.  I'm using 14.04 and this seems to be happening since the last update I did (but I wasn't paying close attention to what was being updated unfortunately)
[21:39] <kaddi> it only happens in kubuntu, when I use windows (dualboot) on the same machine things are fine and noone else on my wifi seems affected
[21:39] <OerHeks> barnex really?
[21:39] <barnex> android42863: 1.2 GB at the moment
[21:39] <k1l> barnex: what does that mean? what pc hardware is it?
[21:39] <android42863> Barnex are you on Ubuntu right now?
[21:39] <barnex> i5, 8GB ramu.
[21:39] <aethersis> test
[21:39] <barnex> android42863: yes
[21:39] <android42863> Check your swappiness
[21:39] <barnex> k1l: i5, 8GB ram, raid 5, luks
[21:40] <android42863> Wait, no.
[21:40] <k1l> barnex: what does "problem with performance" mean?
[21:40] <android42863> Swappiness shouldn't be a problem
[21:40] <android42863> Barnex describe the problem further
[21:40] <barnex> firefox switching tabs super long, zsh taking seconds to load, other command line programs sometimes taking seconds
[21:40] <barnex> games seem to run fine
[21:40] <barnex> so I suspect IO maybe?
[21:41] <android42863> open system monitor, check ram,  check cpu
[21:41] <OerHeks> raid with luks, i suspect impatience.
[21:41] <android42863> Barnex ^
[21:41] <android42863> And let us know if all looks fine
[21:41] <android42863> As in low usage
[21:41] <barnex> OerHeks: ram is steady 50%, cpu mostly 10%, nothing more than 20%
[21:42] <barnex> looks fine to me
[21:42] <Ben64> barnex: try iotop
[21:42] <android42863> Barnex ram on Ubuntu is 4gb? How come?
[21:42] <boz> anyone have experience with ubuntu server email?
[21:42] <android42863> That's quite a lot
[21:42] <tarek> hi
[21:42] <barnex> android42863: 4GB? I have 8GB actually
[21:42] <android42863> Barnex, is your problem happening on Ubuntu only?
[21:42] <barnex> ah
[21:42] <Will2Kill> Jordan_U: Ran Boot repair in Ubuntu - and rebooting now cross fingers. check pastebin 8567349
[21:42] <barnex> how is 4GB used
[21:42] <Will2Kill> thanks
[21:43] <barnex> android42863: can't tell, haven't had any other OS in a while
[21:43] <andras> Fresh install of Ubuntu. 40 GB system partition (SSD), 20 GB swap (SSD), 250 GB home partition (HDD). Entire OS is running slowly. Any ideas?
[21:43] <barnex> certainly not on this PC
[21:43] <android42863> Barnex, maybe your HDD is the problem?
[21:43] <OerHeks> Will2Kill, http://pastebin.com/8567349 is removed
[21:44] <barnex> android42863: vm running, probably using 1 or 2 Gigs of ram
[21:44] <android42863> Barnex k
[21:44] <Ben64> andras: why did you put swap on ssd!?
[21:44] <android42863> Andras ram?
[21:44] <barnex> android42863: hm, are you think about smart diagnostic, or is there some simple benchmark I could try?
[21:45] <android42863> Barnex I don't know, sorry
[21:45] <boz> does ubuntu server email play with nice with the android email app?
[21:45] <android42863> Barnex run love usb
[21:45] <android42863> Lol
[21:45] <android42863> Live usb
[21:46] <android42863> Sorry, Android auto correct
[21:46] <barnex> <3 usb :D
[21:46] <Finetundra> how do i change to resolution for grub?
[21:46] <Finetundra> *the
[21:47] <android42863> Andras how much ram do you have?
[21:47] <OerHeks> !info grub-customizer
[21:48] <Finetundra> OerHeks, i'm running without a gui other than terminal.
[21:48] <OerHeks> Finetundra, maybe this page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays#Changing_Menu_Resolutions
[21:49] <barnex> hmm, and if we suppose that it isn't a hardware problem do you guys have any ideas? I'll run from live eventually and try to recreate the slowness, but I'm afraid it'll take a lot of time
[21:49] <OerHeks> else there is grub-customizer in a PPA >> https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[21:49] <barnex> because it's hard to prove that something (slowness) doesn't occur
[21:49] <barnex> ofc if it was obviously slow from the start it would be obvious
[21:50] <barnex> and if it's fast it still proves nothing, because live doesn't use IO which is probably the one at fault.
[21:50] <Finetundra> OerHeks, the article isn't of much use as i can't see grub because it's a a weird resolution
[21:50] <barnex> I mean disk IO
[21:51] <barnex> So there might still be a hardware problem
[21:52] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, how did the repartition go?
[21:53] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, GNOME crashed in the middle of it. which is not good. although the only effect was that the partition i was adjusting just can't access 398gb
[21:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, please imgur a screen shot of gparted when you get a chance
[21:55] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, i'll have it in a sec
[21:56] <ObrienDave> thanks
[21:56] <andras> android42863 I have 8 GB of ram
[21:56] <Archer70> Anyone else have their compositor break after updating today?
[21:57] <donbirdy> greetings my fellow ubuntonians
[21:57] <kaddi> i have horrible wifi latencies
[21:57] <donbirdy> I am sorry to hear that kaddi
[21:59] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, here ya go : http://imgur.com/nxXesbp   i've gotta go for a sec
[21:59] <ObrienDave> np
[22:13] <motaka2> hello where to find sudoers in ubuntu12.04
[22:13] <sivik> visudo file
[22:13] <sivik> Run the command visudo as root
[22:13] <sivik> motaka2, its actually in /etc/sudoers but visudo is the shortcut way to get there
[22:14] <motaka2> sivik: so I first have to su and then visudo ?
[22:14] <sivik> Yes
[22:14] <EriC^^> not a shortcut, it's the editor, you shouldn't edit it manually
[22:14] <EriC^^> motaka2: type sudo visudo
[22:14] <Jordan_U> motaka2: Why are you asking? Most of the time you do *not* want to be editing the sudoers file.
[22:15] <sivik> There is really nothing wrong with modifying the sudoers if you know what you are doing
[22:15] <motaka2> Jordan_U: just learning
[22:15] <motaka2> I dont want to edit just wanting to look up
[22:15] <EriC^^> sivik: not true
[22:15] <motaka2> so when I sudo with my own password I have all previliages of root ?
[22:16] <sivik> EriC^^, whats the other option on modifying sudoers without editing the file?  I do it on servers all the time
[22:16] <EriC^^> sivik: sometimes without a syntax error you still get an error using visudo
[22:16] <ObrienDave> motaka2, yes, that's what sudo is for
[22:16] <EriC^^> sivik: what do you mean?
[22:16] <stormzen> i need help coming up with a work around for wireless networks.
[22:16] <Jordan_U> EriC^^: sivik: Of course there is nothing wrong with changing the sudoers file if you know what you're doing, but if you don't know where the file is then you are not in that catagory of people :)
[22:16] <zykotick9> !root | motaka2
[22:17] <Timoty>  Hello all, In C, is "printf" a reentrant function?
[22:17] <sivik> Jordan_U, true.  But if one is trying to learn, the best way to learn is to break it (in my opinion) especially if its a test or virtual machine
[22:17] <EriC^^> sivik: visudo is for editing the sudoers file, sometimes an extra tab or space or whatever causes a fault in it
[22:17] <EriC^^> visudo checks everything before saving
[22:17] <Jordan_U> Timoty: Try asking in ##C.
[22:17] <motaka2> I dont know why western people make things to orbit around before move to the goal
[22:17] <sivik> motaka2, we are just giving you different options
[22:17] <motaka2> sivik: EriC^^ zykotick9 thank you all
[22:18] <sivik> You can either run visudo as root or sudo visudo or edit the /etc/sudoers file
[22:18] <sivik> but editing the sudoers file is something only you should do if you really know what you are doing
[22:18]  * zykotick9 thinks, "if you know what you're doing" you wouldn't be editing sudoers by hand...
[22:18] <EriC^^> motaka2: if you just want to look up, then sudo -l , will tell you what privileges you have
[22:19] <motaka2> sivik: when did my normal user was added to sudoers, I dont remmeber i did this and in sudoers.tmp I dont see my username
[22:19] <sivik> motaka2, check via visudo
[22:19] <EriC^^> ( if you're not curious about the file itself that is )
[22:19] <zykotick9> motaka2: the 1st user created on ubuntu systems is automatically added to sudo group
[22:19] <sivik> http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/man/1.7.10/visudo.man.html
[22:19] <sivik> But not any new users
[22:19] <loa> how i can restart rsyslogd after chaning it configuration?
[22:20] <motaka2> sivik: so why my user name is not in sudoers list ?
[22:20] <sivik> Was it the first user added to the machine motaka2
[22:20] <sivik> loa restart the service
[22:20] <zykotick9> motaka2: but the "sudo" group is sudoers and your user is in that group
[22:21] <sivik> Its either service rsyslog(d) restart or /etc/init.d/rsyslog(d) restart
[22:21] <motaka2> sivik: Yes, and also when I sudo i can what I want. so where is my username listed?
[22:21] <loa> sivik, it is not working.
[22:21] <sivik> What isn't working about it load
[22:21] <sivik> motaka2, check your group file in /etc
[22:21] <loa> but sudo killall rsyslogd work
[22:21] <sivik> You are probably in the sudo group
[22:21] <Jordan_U> motaka2: It's not, the "admin" or "sudo" group, one of which you are a member of, is though.
[22:21] <zykotick9> s/probably//
[22:22] <loa> i will not ask if i will not try all options.
[22:22] <EriC^^> motaka2: getent group sudo , it's the list of users in the sudo group, in the /etc/sudoers file they have access to privileged commands
[22:22] <loa> only killall rsyslogd helped
[22:22] <sivik> So what is the issue loa?
[22:22] <NCS_One> hi
[22:22] <sivik> hi NCS_One
[22:22] <loa> as i said "how i can restart resyslogd?"
[22:23] <sivik> do you get an error if you try service rsyslog restart or /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart?
[22:23] <stormzen> Can anyone tell me why NetworkManager freaks out ( and never recovers ) when I issue this command?  sudo sh -c 'modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1'
[22:23] <Jordan_U> loa: sudo service rsyslog restart
[22:23] <NCS_One> is it possible, with xbindkeys, to map a mouse key to a keyboard key?
[22:24] <motaka2> EriC^^: thx
[22:24] <reisio> NCS_One: among other ways, yup
[22:24] <loa> sivik, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A23%3A57.png
[22:24] <EriC^^> motaka2: np
[22:24] <loa> Jordan_U, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A24%3A28.png
[22:24] <sivik> did you run the restart as root and not just your user?
[22:24] <NCS_One> reisio: can you give an example of both?
[22:24] <sivik> aka via su - or sudo <command>
[22:25] <reisio> NCS_One: you using Unity/GNOME? It has its own keyboard shortcut system, IIRC
[22:25] <sivik> oh wait, you are in as root
[22:25] <zykotick9> sivik: don't suggest "su -" in ubuntu...
[22:25] <motaka2> does anyone knows a good manual about user nad group management as well as file permissions and ownership in linux speciall in ubuntu ?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> loa: I didn't say /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart, I said "sudo service rsyslog restart". Have you tried that?
[22:25] <sivik> zykotick9, why not?
[22:25] <NCS_One> reisio: xfce
[22:25] <sivik> Jordan_U, looks like hes already logged in as root
[22:25] <zykotick9> !noroot | sivik
[22:26] <loa> Jordan_U, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A25%3A56.png
[22:26] <sivik> I said nothing about setting the root password.
[22:26] <zykotick9> sivik: "su -" would require it...
[22:26] <sivik> oh yea, it does in ubuntu.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> loa: You shouldn't use the scripts in /etc/init.d/ directly, because then things may not be properly managed by upstart.
[22:26] <sivik> Been a while since I used ubuntu
[22:27] <Jordan_U> loa: Please run exactly the command I gave, nothing else.
[22:27] <loa> Jordan_U, i just want get how i can restart rsyslogd after changing his configuration
[22:27] <loa> Jordan_U, i did it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A25%3A56.png
[22:28] <loa> maybe i am sleepy and have problems.
[22:28] <loa> i will copy paste now.
[22:28] <cristian_c> Hi
[22:28] <loa> ok, i have problems, thx.
[22:28] <Jordan_U> loa: You're welcome.
[22:29] <cristian_c> I can't mound my micro-sd card in the internal card reader via sd adapter
[22:29] <cristian_c> I get:
[22:29] <cristian_c> mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[22:29] <cristian_c> sdhci-pci 0000:01:04.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it.
[22:29] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[22:29] <xxrepresentxx> Hey
[22:30] <ObrienDave> cristian_c, bad card or bad adapter
[22:31] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, I can use the card reader with other cards
[22:31] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, and I can use this card with other card readers
[22:34] <reisio> stormzen: probably 'cause it was using that module
[22:34] <reisio> whoops, stuck in buffer
[22:34] <xxrepresentxx> I have a question. When i install Ubuntu on my laptop there is no sound. but in windows i have some. Why are these problems.(Sry for my bad english, Im from germany)
[22:36] <zykotick9> !de | xxrepresentxx just fyi, if you'd like german.
[22:37] <loa> how i need read logs under ubuntu? that file /var/log/syslog for example?
[22:38] <loa> there must be some tool like dmesg but for that file?
[22:38] <loa> know i use tail /var/log/syslog
[22:38] <loa> there no any other method?
[22:38] <zykotick9> loa: logs are just text files, you can use any program you wish to view them (so long as you have proper permission)
[22:39] <loa> zykotick9, in understand that, but there must be some kind of special tool
[22:39]  * zykotick9 likes cat/less/vi but YMMV
[22:39] <zykotick9> loa: nope...
[22:39] <loa> ok
[22:42] <loa> is there any way to protect my files from different files? for example i don't like skype, i don't want even possibility that he can change or read something under my home folder
[22:42] <loa> different programs *
[22:42] <loa> i tried apparmor already but found that it is very complicated thing.
[22:43] <cristian_c> ObrienDave, any other ideas?
[22:44] <ObrienDave> nope
[22:44] <dragon_> boa noite
[22:45] <dragon_> alguem sabe como posso instalar os efeitos de desktop no zorin os 9 lite
[22:46] <stormzen> Can anyone tell me why NetworkManager freaks out ( and never recovers ) when I issue this command?  sudo sh -c 'modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1'
[22:46] <reisio> stormzen: probably 'cause it was using that module
[22:47] <stormzen> So, how do I make it recover when I do that?  I'm doing it because something has gone horribly wrong with the wireless connection at a remote location.
[22:47] <loa> stormzen, i if you trying to do some kind of powersave there are more polite methods.
[22:47] <zykotick9> !Portuguese | dragon_
[22:48] <stormzen> loa, powersave?  No.  Trying to fix a wireless issue that I only see when I'm away from my home network.
[22:48] <stormzen> .. but I'm guessing that the issue.  .. trying to find a work-around.
[22:50] <loa> stormzen, check out iwconfig
[22:50] <loa> stormzen, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-02%3A50%3A04.png
[22:51]  * vitimiti Bye
[22:52] <stormzen> loa, so you're saying that I can use iwconfig to configure the wireless network interface not to use the 'N' ?
[22:52] <loa> i think so.
[22:52] <stormzen> ok, that gives me something to try.  Thanks!
[22:55] <zykotick9> stormzen: something else to "try".  stop N-M, run your modprobe stuff, start N-M.
[22:55] <acerspyro> Why is Compiz using 10% of my memory?
[22:56] <walooo> hello
[22:56] <chulmin> hallo
[22:56] <zykotick9> acerspyro: and how much cpu?  ;)  compiz isn't "light" by any means.  good luck.
[22:56] <stormzen> zykotick9, That approach didn't work.
[22:56] <acerspyro> 0 right now lol
[22:56] <acerspyro> zykotick9: Still, it could be optimized.
[22:56] <zykotick9> stormzen: ahhh, sorry.  good luck then.
[22:57] <stormzen> zykotick9, ( at least not after I had already put it into the state where it was searching for the network )
[22:57] <stormzen> loa, it says:  SET failed on device wlan3 ; Operation not supported
[22:58] <zykotick9> acerspyro: i "believe" even ubuntu is finally moving unity onto something other then compiz... soon.
[22:58] <loa> stormzen, but that option to module helps?
[22:58] <acerspyro> Nice
[22:58] <acerspyro> Altho...
[22:58] <stormzen> loa, I think it would, if it worked...
[22:58] <acerspyro> I don't understand. Why don't the Compiz devs fix it?
[22:59] <loa> stormzen, you can try to use modprobe.d
[22:59] <loa> if you need that option on permanent basis
[22:59] <stormzen> loa, I think that's what I'm looking to set manually, given that the 'n' is what I'm trying to avoid, and it looks like 802.11n is some sort of protocol meant to switch from a to g ... ( I think )
[22:59] <walooo> hello there
[22:59] <Daryl> at Ubuntu Mainline can Kernel 3.17.1 run in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[22:59] <stormzen> loa, I was trying to determine if the 'n' was even causing the problem.  I'm not sure that it is.
[23:00] <stormzen> but maybe I should just make a permanent change and see if I can go the places I haven't been able to go.
[23:00] <loa> stormzen, try to use /etc/modprobe.d/ folder
[23:03] <sage__> Is the 14.10 release candidate ready for download yet?
[23:03] <reisio> I'm sure you can figure that out on your own
[23:03] <stormzen> loa, am I looking at iwlwifi.conf ?
[23:03] <Yrie> still beta!
[23:03] <zykotick9> sage__: ask in #ubuntu+1 channel
[23:05] <loa> stormzen, if there is such file yes, if no just feel free to create your one.
[23:06] <kaddi> hi my wifi keeps dropping to 0B/s transmitted every since I did the last update 3-4 days ago.. is there a fix for that? (14.04, 64bits using iwlwifi driver).
[23:06] <NCS_One> hi
[23:06] <stormzen> loa, there is one, but all I see in it look like commands to unload iwlwifi.  I think I have the instructions somewhere to make it permanent.
[23:06] <loa> stormzen, what instructions?
[23:07] <stormzen> A website where I got the instructions to try to manually modprobe -r iwlwifi
[23:07] <NCS_One> soo I was able to map a mouse key to a keyboard key using xbindkeys, the problem now is that on the game the same key is recognized ahs a diferent key, what can I do to fix it?
[23:07] <loa> stormzen, what in file i mean.
[23:08] <loa> NCS_One, what game?
[23:08] <stormzen> /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf .. .says to add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 to the end.
[23:08] <NCS_One> loa: Day of Defeat on Steam
[23:08] <loa> NCS_One, game very often have their own mechanic of handling keys and ugly hacks for this.
[23:08] <loa> games *
[23:09] <loa> stormzen, so add it?
[23:09] <stormzen> hah, yes, I'm adding it as fast as I can.  :p
[23:10] <kaddi> loa are you having wifi issues?
[23:10] <stormzen> Ok, will sudo service restart network-manager  cause iwlwifi to reload?
[23:10] <loa> stormzen, i don't think so.
[23:10] <NCS_One> loa: soo no way to fix it?
[23:11] <loa> NCS_One, i don't think so... maybe ingame configuration methids.
[23:11] <loa> NCS_One, it have configuration files or something?
[23:11] <andras> Yeah, my machine is definitely running slowly. It takes a good 3 seconds to save a libre office document 2 pages long. What could be the issue? 8 GB ram, 20 GB of swap
[23:11] <NCS_One> loa: yes
[23:12] <loa> NCS_One, why you use then xbindkeys?
[23:12] <NCS_One> loa: the problem is that in game if I try to map the key to a action when I click the key it says it is MOUSE1
[23:12] <loa> kaddi, i have iwlwifi only my notebook. i can check it if you want.
[23:13] <jonne_> I'm having trouble booting my ssd after moving it to a new computer, anyone know what could be wrong? This is the output of boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8567666/
[23:13] <loa> NCS_One, you have gaming mouse with many buttons?
[23:13] <zykotick9> andras: 20GB of swap is A LOT!
[23:13] <NCS_One> loa: yes, MX518
[23:13] <ObrienDave> andras, probably too much swap
[23:13] <andras> Too much swap?
[23:13] <kaddi> i thought you might be having the same issue as me since you were mentioning hte drivier.. but maybe not :p
[23:13] <jonne_> the ssd used to be in a mac, and i needed to use rEFInd to boot it
[23:13] <loa> NCS_One, you have this problems in other games?
[23:14] <stormzen> ok, trying to reboot now.
[23:14] <andras> You can have too much of a good thing?
[23:14] <NCS_One> loa: really haven't tryed any other game on linux
[23:14] <loa> NCS_One, it is good point to start it lol.
[23:14] <ObrienDave> andras, 20GB swap with 8GB RAM is overkill
[23:14] <loa> dota 2, team fortress are free.
[23:14] <zykotick9> andras: i don't think the 20GB would be slowing things down at all, but it's a lot of disk space for something i doubt gets used very much...
[23:15] <andras> ObrienDave do you think having too much space for swap reduces performance?
[23:15] <NCS_One> loa: thanks, I'll try it tomorrow
[23:15] <ObrienDave> andras, no, just yanking your chain on that ;P
[23:15] <loa> NCS_One, if it is source based game i pritty sure you can setup it configs.
[23:16] <andras> ObrienDave could it be because my /home partition is on a different drive?
[23:16] <JagSirius> I installed Ubuntu on Hyper-V last night, and it's using up to 4.6 GB of RAM. Most of that (all but ~200 MB) is being used in cache - should that be happening?
[23:16] <ObrienDave> andras, but you're wasting at least 10GB with swap that large
[23:16] <loa> JagSirius, yes it is normal.
[23:16] <NCS_One> loa: ok and thanks again
[23:17] <BlackGlasses> ? Hyper-V
[23:17] <andras> ObrienDave it's not really needed elsewhere. Besides I might upgrade to 16 GB ram soon and you're supposed to have more swap than ram
[23:18] <ObrienDave> andras, this is true
[23:18] <BlackGlasses> JagSirius, whatis Hyper-V?
[23:18] <andras> ObrienDave I've never experienced such slowness in Ubuntu on this machine before. It isn't the first time I've installed Ubuntu on this machine or with this hardware
[23:18] <stormzen> Sorry to ask a dumb question, but now that I've disabed 802.11n, how can I tell if it's using a,b, or g?
[23:19] <stormzen> *which it's using, out of a,b,g
[23:19] <ObrienDave> BlackGlasses, microsoft Virtualizer
[23:19] <JagSirius> Hyper-V is Microsoft's virtualization software.
[23:19] <BlackGlasses> ObrienDave, thxs!
[23:19] <loa> stormzen, i think you can find this information in router admin panel
[23:19] <JagSirius> Sorry, I'm not sure how to tag people...
[23:20] <andras> ObrienDave The only thing I did differently this time around is install /home to HDD instead of SSD
[23:20] <ObrienDave> JagSirius, use TAB to auto complete nicks
[23:20] <stormzen> No, what the client is using.  I won't have access to the router admin panel at a remote hotspot.
[23:20] <ObrienDave> andras, that's probably it
[23:21] <OerHeks> JagSirius, run this in terminal: /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p  # and you will notice why hyperV is not optimal
[23:21] <ObrienDave> andras, SSDs will spoil you on performance ;P
[23:21] <squinty> JagSirius:  or if using hexchat, double click the person's nick and then paste it
[23:21] <loa> stormzen, run iwconfig
[23:21] <andras> ObrienDave where does application data stored in Ubuntu? system partition? or home?
[23:22] <stormzen> loa, are you looking at this?  IEEE 802.11abg .. .or something else?
[23:22] <JagSirius> ObrienDave: Like this?
[23:22] <rathitlike> Hey dude
[23:22] <loa> stormzen, yes.
[23:23] <ObrienDave> rathitlike, your problem with me is?
[23:23] <stormzen> loa, I wiki'd IEE 802.11, but there were many listings for 'a' ...
[23:23] <OerHeks> !pm | rathitlike
[23:23] <stormzen> 'abg' tells me that it's no longer trying to use 'n', but not what it is using.  I guess I could figure that out by looking at the frequency?
[23:24] <rathitlike> I do
[23:24] <stormzen> Sorry, I'm in a hurry, I'm not seeing as much as I should be seeing.
[23:24] <ObrienDave> rathitlike, why are you PMing me with your garbage?
[23:25] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, try looking at the system log
[23:25] <squinty> rathitlike:  and me... not cool!!!
[23:25] <OerHeks> !ops | rathitlike
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] (~rathitlik@2601:b:b480:840:f176:48f2:ad91:6460): rathitlike
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] #ubuntu
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] wilhelm.freenode.net :NL
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] idle 00:01:23, signon: Wed Oct 15 16:17:15
[23:25] <ObrienDave> [16:25:35] * [rathitlike] End of WHOIS list.
[23:26] <stormzen> iwlist modu gives: wlan3     unknown modulation information.
[23:26] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, so, grep wlan3 /var/log/syslog ?
[23:27] <rathitlike> I can't get xrandr to turn off overscan with out screen corruption
[23:28] <loa> stormzen, my opinion that modulation can change dynamicly or so.
[23:28] <OerHeks> stormzen, maybe your router can confirm the protocol
[23:28] <stormzen> loa, hmm.  Ok.
[23:28] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, if you have it...
[23:29] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, Didn't see anything about modulation in syslog.  I thought I might be grepping for the wrong string, or in the wrong log.
[23:29] <loa> stormzen, but my knowledge are very low in this topic.
[23:29] <stormzen> OerHeks, I plan to do this at a hotspot to figure out why my wireless has been breaking there.  Won't have access to the router.
[23:29] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, iwconfig wont tell you modulation?
[23:29] <loa> stormzen, so it is gust possibilities of my ap https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.10.16-03%3A29%3A31.png
[23:29] <loa> just *
[23:30] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, iwconfig appears to tell me what is 'allowed'?  IEEE 802.11abg
[23:31] <neldogz> Are there any special libraries users should install when trying to game using Ubuntu 14.04.1 64-bit? For example, I am using Steam should I be installing any 32 bit libraries for the various games I play and if so which libraries?
[23:32] <JagSirius> OerHeks: re Hyper-V, is it because it uses software rendering?
[23:33] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, have you tried man iwconfig | grep modulation ?
[23:33] <peppecruz> qual è il channel italiano?
[23:33] <loa> stormzen, maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1441823
[23:33] <ObrienDave> !it | peppecruz
[23:34] <kaddi> switching back to 3.13.0-36-generic seems to fix the issue
[23:34] <Quatroking> hi
[23:34] <BlackGlasses> stormzen, I'm just trying to be helpfull but I'm not a good source for wifi solutions...
[23:34] <Quatroking> I just tried out making two aliases in a .bash_aliases file, but none of them work
[23:34] <OerHeks> JagSirius, i experienced: Not software rendered: no Unity 3D supported: no
[23:35] <peppecruz> ObrienDave: thanks
[23:35] <Quatroking> do I have to do anything special before my terminal recognizes them?
[23:35] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, pastebin your file here
[23:35] <kaddi> seriously.. ubuntu and wifi. it's just not meant to be, eh? :p
[23:35] <rathitlike> kaddi: says u
[23:36] <Yrie> kaddi: it's more of wifi manufacturer and anything open source
[23:36] <Quatroking> ObrienDave, http://pastebin.com/gubkYzDU
[23:36] <BlackGlasses> kaddi, my wifi works fine (sometimes it disconnects with no reason, but 99.9% of time is ok)
[23:36] <kaddi> Yrie: ya i know.. just annoyed.. it's been all of 3 months since I last had to circumvent a wifi bug
[23:36] <Quatroking> when i type agi or dropbox-chan in the terminal, it says that it doesn't recognize it
[23:36] <Quatroking> command not found error
[23:36] <Yrie> kaddi: you need to help them figure out how to provide stuff for free and earn a huge amount of profit at the same time
[23:37] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, relog
[23:37] <stormzen> BlackGlasses, as I suspected, it doesn't support manual modulation changes.
[23:37] <Quatroking> alright, hold on
[23:38] <stormzen> loa, thanks for that link.
[23:38] <Quatroking> oh hey, now it works, ObrienDave
[23:38] <kaddi> Yrie: i prolly just need to get away from intel :p
[23:38] <Quatroking> thanks
[23:38] <stormzen> Ok.  That's all the time I have.  Thanks again.
[23:38] <Quatroking> the tutorial I followed didn't mention that
[23:38] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, welcome
[23:39] <Quatroking> by the way, I aliased cd .. to cd.. earlier today using the terminal itself, where does it save that?
[23:39] <pbx> Quatroking, it doesn't. it lasts for the duration of that shell session
[23:39] <Quatroking> oh
[23:39] <pzkpfw> ^
[23:39] <Quatroking> ha, you're right
[23:39] <pzkpfw> close the window and start over. I do that more often than I should.
[23:39] <Quatroking> guess I'll add that to the list then
[23:39] <ObrienDave> .bash_history
[23:39] <pbx> Quatroking, if you want it to persist, you need to put it in a dotfile e.g. .bash_profile
[23:40] <pzkpfw> lol
[23:40] <Quatroking> pbx, yeah I made a .bash_aliases file
[23:40] <pzkpfw> time paradox
[23:40] <NoXzema> If you were to try and open an old .deb package for a library that's currently in the repository, what would happen?
[23:41] <Quatroking> oh look at that, just restarting the terminal also refreshes the aliases
[23:42] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, forgot that works also ;P
[23:42] <Quatroking> got a question about two ntfs partitions I got
[23:43] <jose__> haosifkhaosdf
[23:43] <jose__> HOLA
[23:43] <Quatroking> "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[23:43] <Quatroking> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[23:43] <Quatroking> read-only with the 'ro' mount option." - pretty sure I shut down entirely the last couple times. Should I run chkdsk?
[23:43] <Quatroking> gah, sorry, didn't know it had breaklines in there
[23:45] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, get a backup first
[23:45] <SchrodingersScat> I've not found a huge pattern with windows, normally booting in once cleared that out for me, luckily I learned my lesson and got rid of windows
[23:45] <Quatroking> ObrienDave, been there done that
[23:46] <ObrienDave> then boot into safe mode
[23:46] <hulio> in xchat for ubuntu, how do you press to clear the screen , i use to do CTRL+L
[23:46] <Quatroking> eh, nevermind, ObrienDave
[23:46] <ObrienDave> okay ;P
[23:46] <Quatroking> just realized I hadn't used the windows partition in over a month
[23:47] <Quatroking> might as well just get rid of it and throw the second hdd in a different machine
[23:48] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, did you have a look at that picture?
[23:48] <Quatroking> do I have to boot off livecd in order to extend the size of my ubuntu partition?
[23:48] <hulio> do you
[23:49] <Finetundra> i don't believe so, i didn't
[23:49] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, yup. kind of a precarious situation
[23:50] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, it's safer to do it that way
[23:50] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, so what does it all mean
[23:50] <pbx> hulio, Window > Clear Text
[23:50] <hulio> phx i want combination dude
[23:50] <Freen0deAdmin> hello everyone
[23:50] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, and what needs to be done
[23:50] <pbx> hulio, you'll have to add one. it has none by default
[23:50] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, not sure but i think your partition table needs some help
[23:51] <pbx> hulio, or use the HUD, e.g. tap alt and then c-l-e <return>
[23:51] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, great. what do i do?
[23:51] <lotuspsychje> how can i tail -f wifi issues only from logs?
[23:53] <tortib> What is that URL that tests your bash for shell shock and the other exploits that are patched?
[23:53] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, well, we can try shrinking sda6 and moving it to the right then resizing sda2
[23:53] <tortib> Not shellshocker.net
[23:53] <lotuspsychje> !shellshock | tortib
[23:53] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, great. going for it
[23:53] <tortib> ubottu: not what I asked.
[23:54] <tortib> lol
[23:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, but i would STRONGLY suggest doing it from Gparted Live
[23:54] <tortib> lotuspsychje: not what I asked ;)
[23:54] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, WAIT
[23:54] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, how musch do i need to shrink it. ok switching to live
[23:54] <mvensky> has anyone used clonezilla live to clone between 2 machines?
[23:54] <lotuspsychje> tortib: if you update, you know your safe right?
[23:54] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, tell me now then i'll swithc over
[23:55] <tortib> lotuspsychje: yes but I want to test my OS X machine and I want the script to see if it's patched.
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> tortib: not sure howto, think its all about the bash version really
[23:55] <lotuspsychje> !info bash | tortib
[23:55] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, shrink sda6 FROM THE RIGHT to slightly less than the white area (about halfway)
[23:56] <lotuspsychje> tortib: maybe ask in mac channel for the shellshock
[23:56] <tortib> lotuspsychje: what's the channel?
[23:56] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, so grab it on the right then move it till a little after what's in white. do i have that right?
[23:56] <slowmc> mvensky : did it once. It works most of the time, but it is not foolproof
[23:56] <tortib> #shellshock?
[23:57] <lotuspsychje> !alis | tortib
[23:57] <mvensky> slowmc: any documentation/how-to's ?
[23:57] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, sounds good then move sda6 ALL the way to the right
[23:58] <Finetundra> ObrienDave, ok. i'm going to switch to the live and be back in a bit
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : humm... not that I can remember. There are 2 possible complications :
[23:58] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, k, i'll be here
[23:58] <loa> is there way to make archive with ability of quick extraction of single file?
[23:58] <Quatroking> oh crap, my ubuntu is installed on my second hdd
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : 1) the second disk to clone to need to be as big or bigger than the original image
[23:58] <Quatroking> how can I savely move it to my first?
[23:58] <loa> i have plenty of txt files, and want sometimes compare them from archives.
[23:58] <Quatroking> safely even
[23:58] <ObrienDave> Finetundra, the idea is do get rid of the gray area on the right first
[23:58] <ObrienDave> *is to
[23:58] <slowmc> mvensky : 2) you better have similar computers
[23:59] <mvensky> slowmc: yes I have both
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: i think you will be fastest reinstalling :p
[23:59] <Quatroking> gaaah
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: 30min of your life :p
[23:59] <mvensky> source computer is stuck at " waiting for the target machine to connect"
[23:59] <Quatroking> can't I just copypaste the partitions, adjust grub and be done with it