[09:20] <stadtfilter> nothing in grub like this enabled huh
[09:20] <kitchen> ladydoor: ok, couldn't find anything in /etc, but I added all my paths manually, and (after a couple of tweaks) it now all works fine :) many thanks to yourself and Yaakov, and all the best from sunny Dubai!
[09:20] <antares79> descention: ok... is there anything in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/volatile now?
[09:21] <Descention> no
[09:21] <ladydoor> Mouldy: also, are you in dapper/using the latest version of firefox?
[09:21] <rexbron> ktiche: direct rendering: Yes
[09:21] <rexbron> kitche: direct rendering: Yes
[09:21] <ladydoor> kitchen: congratulations! glad to help. Enjoy!
[09:21] <Mouldy> ladydoor, Yep, latest dapper and firefox. I'll try an older version of the extension
[09:21] <Imrahil> robbbb, no experience connecting to ms sql but it should be straightforward. what type of visual environment are you using?
[09:21] <Descention> antares79: should i just re-format?
[09:21] <Mouldy> ladydoor, It worked, thanks =) Now just to set it up with an IRC client and I'm good to go :)
[09:21] <robbbb> well i'm using visual studio at the moment, but want to start running stuff in linux instead
[09:22] <ladydoor> Mouldy: great! enjoy!
[09:22] <antares79> hang on for a minute... nvidia drivers are not worth a re-install ;-)
[09:22] <Descention> hah
[09:22] <kitche> rexbron: ok it's using the i915 driver. I m not sure if i915 has 3d accel directly, sicne the i845g and lower don't have direct 3d accel.
[09:23] <mwe> i915 supports direct rendering
[09:23] <bette> hello peps... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...
[09:23] <mwe> but it's somewhat slow
[09:23] <mjr> ...and also the older i8xx thingies do
[09:24] <blue-frog> is there a channel for edgy?
[09:24] <kitche> mjr: I know with i845g you need mesalib to get full 3d accel
[09:24] <mwe> !edgy
[09:24] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[09:24] <blue-frog> ty
[09:24] <mjr> kitche, all X.org DRI drivers use mesa...
[09:24] <robbbb> !schedule
[09:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:25] <quiet> wat driver should be used by "0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Grap
[09:25] <quiet> hics Controller (rev 02)
[09:25] <quiet> "  i have been using i810...  would i get better results with i915 or something?
[09:25] <antares79> descention: try running "sudo /sbin/lrm-manager --quick" and please tell me what i says
[09:25] <antares79> it
[09:26] <kitche> mjr: yes but i915 isn't a X.org driver
[09:26] <POVaddct> quiet: for i915 the Xorg driver is still i810, or do you mean the kernel dri driver?
[09:26] <Descention> antares79: it doesnt say anything
[09:26] <sivik> ok, doing the dpkg-reconfigure localeconf didn't fix that problem
[09:26] <quiet> POVaddct, umm.. oh... i dunno.
[09:26] <kitche> quiet: there is an i915 driver but you have to compile it yourself atleast the Intel driver
[09:26] <antares79> descention, what's "uname -r"?
[09:27] <sivik> what does the LC_ALL look like
[09:27] <robbbb> anyone know of a visual development environment for linux?
[09:27] <Descention> 2.6.15-27-686
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, what lang?
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, or langs?
[09:27] <robbbb> c#
[09:27] <robbbb> vb
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, monodevelop
[09:27] <robbbb> either really
[09:27] <sivik> robbbb, install mono and then monodevelop
[09:28] <antares79> and did all those directories that i told you to look for files in contain that string anywhere? or was it (if ever so slightly) different?
[09:28] <sivik> robbbb, does that make sense
[09:28] <Descention> antares79: the volatile folder is in a 386 folder
[09:28] <J-_> wols_:  thanks for helping me reconfigure x11, i not only got the gui working but i got the right driver working, and it works awesome. it's nice to have video acceleration =D
[09:28] <antares79> ah, gotcha
[09:28] <robbbb> sivik, yeah thanks. isn't mono a .net emulator?
[09:29] <sivik> robbbb, no
[09:29] <cs02rm0> how would i go about getting a linux kernel update from edgy eft and nothing else? just change my sources.list, update, install the kernel, put the sources.list back and update again?
[09:29] <bette> hello... can some one tell me how i can change the language from french to english on a sever with Kubutnu ??? i am logget in with Putty... i cant remotedesktop it...
[09:29] <antares79> try "sudo apt-get install linux-686" (i think it is *cough* ;-)
[09:29] <sivik> robbb: go to mono-project.com and look around
[09:29] <POVaddct> quiet: the Xorg driver is for basic X display via the intel card. the dri driver is only needed if you want 3d acceleration.
[09:29] <robbbb> sivik, yeah looks cool.
[09:29] <rbw> I am using Ubuntu 6.06... If I reboot my system remotely, how do I get VNC to run so I can login to the desktop remotely?
[09:29] <quiet> POVaddct, is there a howto for installing that?
[09:29] <sivik> robbbb, monodevelop is the IDE for mono
[09:29] <POVaddct> quiet: dunno
[09:30] <Descention> antares79: it's running...
[09:30] <robbbb> got ya
[09:30] <Descention> antares79: done
[09:30] <robbbb> anyone know howto get your mouse to follow focus?
[09:30] <antares79> fine... did it download linux-restricted-modules-686?
[09:31] <Descention> yes
[09:31] <Descention> i tihnk
[09:31] <Locke2> http://www.usbcell.com/
[09:31] <robbbb> using enlightment as the WM
[09:31] <xMorphix> what java client should I use?
[09:31] <antares79> good... you have to reboot now... after that, it should (haha *g) just work
[09:31] <kitche> robbbb: should be in the settings for enlightenment right click and it should say focus in that menu
[09:31] <sivik> robbbb, enlightenment is cool, i like it
[09:31] <Descention> alright, thank oyu
[09:32] <ladydoor> ok, i've got a question. a lot of people in here ask about 3D acceleration, whether with nvidia or ati. What are the benefits of it? Does it matter for somebody who only uses, say, ratpoison WM and isn't a gamer?
[09:32] <Descention> i'll be back to let you know if it works or not
[09:32] <antares79> no problem... good luck, descention
[09:32] <sivik> robbbb, yeah, it is either right click or ctrl-left click
[09:32] <robbbb> kitche, sivik, it still doesn't seem to follow the mouse
[09:32] <sivik> robbbb, you have to restart enlightenment
[09:32] <antares79> anyway, i came into this room to ask a question myself in the first place ;-)
[09:33] <sivik> ctrl-alt-backspace and relogin
[09:33] <robbbb> really?
[09:33] <sivik> antares79, what is your question
[09:33] <sivik> robbbb, yeah, try that
[09:33] <antares79> does anyone know if edgy will contain the recently announced intel graphics drivers?
[09:33] <POVaddct> ladydoor: mostly it's needed for games
[09:33] <sivik> antares79, not sure, i don't use intel
[09:33] <robbbb> i've just changed from 'focus follows mouse'
[09:33] <xMorphix> if I wanted to use java, what program should I use?
[09:33] <ladydoor> POVaddct: ok, that about answers my question. thanks a lot!
[09:33] <robbbb> took effect instantly, but it's not want i'm after
[09:33] <kitche> ladydoor: well it depends but ratposion it's no good on but you need 3d accel to use compiz if you want to use something like that
[09:33] <POVaddct> ladydoor: window managers normally take no advantage of 3d accel
[09:34] <sivik> robbbb, what are you after?
[09:34] <antares79> thanks anyway, sivik
[09:34] <ladydoor> kitche: aha, thanks
[09:34] <sivik> antares79, just trying to help
[09:34] <sivik> how do i fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24901
[09:35] <rexbron> kitche: so is there any recourse for me?
[09:35] <robbbb> i want to be able to click i.e. a contact in gaim, and it will then move my mouse to the conversation window
[09:35] <POVaddct> ladydoor: for example on my machines i have no 3d accel at all. i simply don't need it.
[09:35] <mwe> the pastebin is really slow
[09:35] <variant> works like a charm
[09:35] <rexbron> O.o
[09:35] <ladydoor> POVaddct: that makes sense. yeah, i don't have it either, and was just kind of wondering if i was missing out. lol
[09:35] <antares79> sivik: what's your locale?
[09:36] <antares79> ie. what does "echo $LC_ALL" say?
[09:36] <mwe> sivik: seems to be an unsupported locale
[09:36] <antares79> wb descention
[09:36] <Descention> IT works!!!! I have Nvidia!!!
[09:36] <Descention> lol
[09:36] <variant> Descention: unlucky
[09:36] <antares79> woohoo ;-)
[09:36] <sivik> antares79, i live in the us so its english
[09:36] <Descention> thank you
[09:36] <trappist> POVaddct: I don't think anybody would argue that it's necessary, or even really useful.  sure is nice to look at though.
[09:36] <sivik> antares79, i'm not sure what i need to do in order to fix it
[09:36] <kitche> rexbron: well it seems like to me you have 3d accel but it's probably not full 3d
[09:37] <xMorphix> ...<<<<<Look at my fun way to get attention>>>>>.....
[09:37] <kitche> really 3d accel is only needed if you want to run eyecandy stuff
[09:37] <xMorphix> what java client should I use
[09:37] <rexbron> kitche: so how should go about getting "full" 3d accel
[09:37] <sivik> mwe: what can i do to fix it?
[09:37] <kitche> xMorphix: java client for what?
[09:37] <antares79> sivik, please wait a minute
[09:37] <sivik> k
[09:37] <J-_> i just like the acceleration for gaming, and or doing projects in the gimp, "applying filters" doesn't take hours(minutes in my case).. 2 seconds it's done =D
[09:37] <xMorphix> kitche: well I need java to run some things in firefox
[09:38] <trappist> xMorphix: if I wasn't completely put off by your attempt at getting attention, I'd ask what you mean by java client.
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: haha
[09:38] <antares79> sivik: please go to the directory /var/lib/locales/supported.d
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: it worked though
[09:38] <kitche> rexbron: you could try installing mesalib and setting that up it might be installed already
[09:38] <trappist> xMorphix: I promise it's not the kind of attention you want.  please avoid the temptation in the future.
[09:38] <sivik> antares79, ok, now what?
[09:38] <kitche> XMorhpix: just install java
[09:38] <xMorphix> trappist: Any type of attention is wanted ;P
[09:38] <antares79> is there a file called "local"?
[09:38] <rexbron> kitche: whats the command to conifre libmesa
[09:39] <kitche> XMorphix: I would install JSDK myself
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: well I tried that I just oculdn't get it to install
[09:39] <robbbb> hmmmm.. i think gnome might be interfering with enlightmenet
[09:39] <sivik> antares79, en & local
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: where would I get JSDK?
[09:39] <sivik> robbbb, then uninstall gnome
[09:39] <xMorphix> kitche: run a search for it?
[09:39] <kitche> rexbron: it's more though the xorg.conf you have to set up the dri section
[09:39] <robbbb> i use the gnome-panel
[09:39] <POVaddct> trappist: i used to like transparent terminals around 1999 or so. but if you really work with such terminals, you soon learn that a opaque terminal is much more readable.
[09:39] <variant> xMorphix: use synaptic and search for jdk
[09:39] <kitche> XMorphix: yes if you want apt-get package
[09:40] <variant> xMorphix: but you only need a jdk if you intend to develop. if you just want to use java programs then you need the jre
[09:40] <whurley> hi all, is there any way I can netboot to install Ubuntu server?
[09:40] <antares79> wait a minute... it says LC_ALL is unset... that's funny
[09:40] <Ubuntu-ph> how can I run emacs on xterm ?
[09:40] <xMorphix> variant: I just plan to use
[09:40] <antares79> what's in /etc/environment, sivik?
[09:40] <trappist> POVaddct: having transparent terminals requires you to choose your desktop background carefully.  also looks quite nice, and a *truly* transparent terminal can also be useful.
[09:40] <ladydoor> robbbb: are you trying to use enlightened gnome?
[09:40] <variant> xMorphix: then search for jre not jdk
[09:40] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: read the man page
[09:40] <robbbb> ladydoor, yeah i guess so
[09:41] <ladydoor> robbbb: (like, gnome with enlightenment as a window manager instead of metacity)
[09:41] <trappist> Ubuntu-ph: I think it's emacs -nw
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> variant: was hoping for a quick command
[09:41] <xMorphix> variant: I ran a search in Synaptic, all it returned was dockbook-xsl
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: thanks
[09:41] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: man emacs
[09:41] <variant> Ubuntu-ph: :)
[09:41] <POVaddct> trappist: the only transparent thing on my desktop is root-tail, which sits on the root window displaying me the last line of some log files
[09:41] <robbbb> ladydoor, yeah exactly like that
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> variant: yeah, right
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: look for sun jre
[09:41] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, emacs has an X11 version
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: or blackdown
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: you need to enable the other repositorys
[09:41] <blowfish> The greeter application appears to be crashing.
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: really ?
[09:41] <blowfish> why ?
[09:41] <Ubuntu-ph> :)
[09:41] <blowfish> 6.06.1
[09:41] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, it should run by default actually. yes
[09:41] <variant> xMorphix: before they are available
[09:42] <trappist> POVaddct: I might for example start a compile job, then work in an ever-so-slightly transparent window on top of that, and be able to see when it's done (or at least when it's stopped)
[09:42] <xMorphix> variant: so how would I do that?
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, there's also xemacs but xemacs is a branch iirc
[09:42] <ladydoor> robbbb: i know that there's an old howto on the forums (like for hoary or something) but it still might be a good jumping-off point...let me see if i can find it
[09:42] <blowfish> when gnome bootings
[09:42] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I just removed my external hdd from its casing and put in inside the comp.  I see the 3 partitions in "computer" although when I try to access anyone of them I get the Error "Unable to mount the selected volume."  "error: device /dev/hdb3 is not removable"  "error: could not execute pmount" any ideas???
[09:42] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: I see
[09:42] <variant> xMorphix: there is extensive docs for it on ubuntu website
[09:42] <robbbb> ladydoor, thanks
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, e.g. if you're in GNOME and you type "emacs" in a terminal... it should launch an X11 emacs because it knows you're in X11
[09:42] <rexbron> kitche: here is my xorg.conf, I thought is was set up correctly
[09:42] <rexbron> kitche: http://pastebin.ca/183291
[09:42] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: emacs -nw worked
[09:42] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, personally i don't think anyone should ever type "emacs" ever
[09:42] <xMorphix> variant: that's why I come here, to stay awar from the "extensive" type of reading
[09:42] <xMorphix> away*
[09:42] <POVaddct> trappist: i'd rather use screen(1) for that. (screen's "monitor for silence" function)
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: why is that ?
[09:43] <trappist> Ubuntu-ph: yeah for me too.  but then I didn't know how to get out of emacs :)
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, i've already got an OS :)
[09:43] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: to mount hard disks use System>Administration>Disks or add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab
[09:43] <trappist> POVaddct: screen is definitely a must-have
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> trappist: heh
[09:43] <POVaddct> trappist: yes :)
[09:43] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: what does that mean ?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, vim is faster and better. emacs PHP support is very crappy. vim doesn't try to be your kitchen sink.
[09:43] <ladydoor> robbbb: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightened+gnome . This is an old howto, but people still post to it (as of a month ago, it seems), so you might look at the first few and the last few postings :-). good luck!
[09:43] <Lam_> is emacs default with ubuntu or do i have to install the emacs package?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, hehehe if you don't know why you're using emacs you should get out now and switch to vim :P
[09:43] <Splintah> is it worth it to upgrade to 6.10 knot 3 or should I just wait for the final release?
[09:43] <jazzrocker> Lam_, iirc you have to install it
[09:44] <robbbb> ladydoor - thanks for that
[09:44] <Ubuntu-ph> jazzrocker: vim > emacs ?
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Lam_, yeah you have to install it
[09:44] <javier> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:44] <ladydoor> robbbb: np
[09:44] <Lam_> ok just checking
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Ubugtu, IMHO yes, by far
[09:44] <antares79> sivik?
[09:44] <kitche> rexbron: yeah it's set up correctly guess that i915 just uses direct rendering
[09:44] <jazzrocker> gah
[09:44] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, that was for you
[09:44] <robbbb> i've used enlightement for a long time, but need to get it working *exactly* as i need
[09:44] <ladydoor> javier: Ubuntu-ph:  could we save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[09:44] <Ubuntu-ph> lol
[09:44] <ladydoor> javier: sorry, not you
[09:44] <javier> alguien habla espaol?
[09:44] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives about 500 fps
[09:44] <ladydoor> jazzrocker: please save the religious debate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <ArrenLex> !es
[09:44] <ladydoor> !es
[09:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:45] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: too quick for me
[09:45] <javier> gracias
[09:45] <ArrenLex> It's very quiet for 953 people.
[09:46] <ladydoor> ArrenLex: that's just asking for trouble
[09:46] <Komisch> hello
[09:46] <erUSUL> !dapper
[09:46] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[09:46] <enyc> ladydoor: lol
[09:46] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: gonna try the "disks" option first as I think mounting it using fstab would be difficult as the drive is spilt into 3 ntfs partitions. It contains loads of progs, vids, music, and me mother and course work. I just plan on copying what I need to my ubuntu drive then formatting it
[09:46] <Lam_> i dont mean to criticize, but even with ndiswrapper, my broadcom card seems to have horrible range
[09:46] <erUSUL> !upgrade
[09:46] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:46] <Komisch> how can i open rar files ? i am using ubuntu 6.06
[09:46] <jazzrocker> Ubuntu-ph, here's a fact (e.g. less religious, no debate): vim comes installed on most *nix distros by default. emacs almost never does.
[09:46] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives
[09:46] <czer323> Anyone work with kxdocker and gaim?  I'm having issues with gaim not showing as an active application when gaim is mimimized to the system tray.  Any suggestions?
[09:46] <kyja> lashings are given out by uboto on the most popular speaker.
[09:46] <rexbron> kitche: glxgears gives 2638 frames in 5.0 seconds = 527.444 FPS
[09:46] <Animaonline> Ubuntu Rulez
[09:46] <ArrenLex> Homisch: apt-get install unrar
[09:46] <erUSUL> !ntfs > Paddy_EIRE
[09:47] <kitche> rexbron: yeah does the gears spin slow or no?
[09:47] <Komisch> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[09:47] <rexbron> slowly
[09:47] <kyja> !custom
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about custom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <rexbron> kitche: slowly
[09:47] <ArrenLex> Kimisch: either add multiverse or try unrar-free
[09:47] <xMorphix> variant: still can't find anything close to java
[09:47] <mwe> !info unrar
[09:47] <ArrenLex> Kom
[09:47] <xMorphix> !java
[09:47] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[09:47] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: i know the craic with ntfs :)
[09:47] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:47] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: check out the script in the page ubotu told you. This script makes aviable to you all your win partitions under /media
[09:47] <kitche> rexbron: yeah that might be due to i915 direct rendering is probably slower then the mesalib way
[09:47] <Komisch> ok
[09:47] <sivik> antares79, sorry, what do i need to try next, i'm in that folder and there are two things there, en and local
[09:48] <Komisch> how do i add multiverse?
[09:48] <Paddy_EIRE> erUSUL: oh, nice one did not know of a script that'll do it
[09:48] <rexbron> kitche: how do i check to see oif i have the mesalib
[09:48] <erUSUL> Paddy_EIRE: the scipt will add the apropiate lines to /etc/fstab
[09:48] <sivik> Komisch, open /etc/apt/sources.list and add the line
[09:48] <Komisch> i did sudo apt-get update
[09:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Yes you did...
[09:48] <Animaonline> http://www.animaonline.com   This site has a lot of stuff bout Ubuntu 6.06
[09:48] <mwe> !repos
[09:48] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:48] <Animaonline> :(
[09:48] <antares79> sivik, i overlooked sth (is that a word?)... what's in /etc/environment? (it's a text file)
[09:48] <ArrenLex> !multiverse > Komisch
[09:48] <ladydoor> Komisch: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list. first, back it up:  cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak . then, do sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:48] <kitche> rexbron: check synaptic to see if you have it installed
[09:49] <rexbron> k
[09:49] <Animaonline> hello!!! can someone help me?
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> not a script that does it for you Jack_Sparrow
[09:49] <ladydoor> Komisch: and then add the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[09:49] <georgy> !ask
[09:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Diskmounter?
[09:49] <Animaonline> i can't run ubuntu on my second pc, it says, decompressing linux kernel, and then my computer restarts
[09:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: oh, then I did hehe, oops
[09:50] <POVaddct> Animaonline: look like bad ram
[09:50] <POVaddct> Animaonline: run memtest
[09:50] <Animaonline> i did
[09:50] <Animaonline> i have 768mb ram
[09:50] <georgy> Animaonline : try boot option noapic
[09:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: FYI, HI, just taking a break from building new shelves in the pantry for the wife..
[09:50] <Animaonline> ok
[09:50] <CokeNCode> hey, guys, i've noticed alot of apps lately that offer free tv for windows users ... are there any linux versions of these apps ?
[09:50] <sivik> antares79, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24903
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: wife
[09:51] <ArrenLex> Coke: you mean like mythtv?
[09:51] <xMorphix> I don't seem to have the multiverse repository
[09:51] <sivik> CokeNCode, do you mean for a tv capture card?
[09:51] <CokeNCode> ArrenLex yeh
[09:51] <antares79> thanks, sivik, i'll take a look
[09:51] <xMorphix> where would I find that?
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: you get married....congrats
[09:51] <Animaonline> thanks everyone! talk to yall later
[09:51] <ArrenLex> Coke: How about... mythtv?
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[09:51] <CokeNCode> sivik nah, not a tv capture card ... streaming network tv
[09:51] <Dr_willis> How is that tv 'free' ?
[09:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Over 25 years ago
[09:51] <sivik> !repos >xMorphix
[09:51] <rexbron> !libgl1-mesa-glide3
[09:51] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa-glide3: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- glide runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.2.1-8 (dapper), package size 1600 kB, installed size 4812 kB (Only available for i386 alpha amd64)
[09:51] <CokeNCode> is there an apt-get for mythtv ?
[09:51] <sivik> !repos > xMorphix
[09:51] <xMorphix> sivik: thanks sivik
[09:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: oops, lol
[09:51] <sivik> CokeNCode, yes
[09:51] <Dr_willis> heh.. seen a few web sites that stream tv video. but they tend to use custome programs
[09:51] <sivik> xMorphix, yw
[09:51] <rexbron> !libgl1-mesa
[09:51] <ubotu> libgl1-mesa: A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime. In component main, is extra. Version 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 158 kB, installed size 488 kB
[09:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: congrats again then, :/
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I am thinking of reworking diskmounter to insculde ntfs-3g.
[09:52] <CokeNCode> Dr_willis yup! and the custom programs are usually for windows only
[09:52] <rexbron> kitche: I have mesa installed but not things like glide3
[09:52] <CokeNCode> hence my problem
[09:52] <sivik> CokeNCode, have you tried running them in wine
[09:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I have not seen any problems with it recently
[09:53] <xMorphix> sivik: ok so it is all on me, however how do I get to the multiverse repository
[09:53] <antares79> sivik: you can remove all those LC_something lines and replace them with "LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" .  But better put that line above that ### BEGIN DEBCONF etc. line
[09:53] <CokeNCode> sivik yeh ... no dice
[09:53] <xMorphix> sivik: is that under the managingrepositories page?
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: jeeze now that would be somethin
[09:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: you think its at a good level of stability now
[09:54] <kitche> rexbron: I would install glide3 and the mesa-dri package just to make sure
[09:54] <rexbron> ok
[09:54] <sivik> xMorphix, i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and add the repos to that file and then run a sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <fenotype> hi all
[09:54] <rexbron> kitche: the mesa-dri package is already installed
[09:54] <sivik> xMorphix, pm
[09:54] <antares79> sivik: like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24904
[09:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Close enough for me to do some testing on my own systems
[09:55] <fenotype> could someone help me about kernel?
[09:55] <CokeNCode> well, i'll try mythtv ... thanks guys
[09:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: that'll be a memorable release, good luck... :)
[09:55] <ladydoor> !kernel
[09:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[09:55] <sivik> xMorphix, did you get that pm?
[09:55] <wols> fenotype: just ask
[09:55] <fenotype> tnx
[09:56] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i am having an issue with my audio i/o; im trying to record  via audacity but cannot. (it gives me a funky error message about i/o)
[09:57] <fenotype> i've just recompiled my dapper 6.06's kernel with one download at ubuntu's repository
[09:57] <sivik> antares79, trying it now
[09:57] <Xabaras> ciao
[09:57] <xMorphix> sivik: I did, and I added the multiverse repositories from system>administration>software properties
[09:57] <antares79> sivik: this change requires a reboot AFAIK
[09:57] <Xabaras> ragazzi a chi posso chiedere per un aiuto sull'accelerazione grafic
[09:57] <Xabaras> a
[09:57] <xMorphix> sivik: you want me to add those two you PM'ed me as well?
[09:58] <xMorphix> !java
[09:58] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:58] <fenotype> 1) applied a patch to the kernel 2) configured
[09:58] <sivik> xMorphix, didn't know you did the multiverse thingy in system.admin.software properties
[09:58] <fenotype> 3) compiled 4) installed
[09:58] <sivik> xMorphix, if you already did that first, you shouldn't have to do what i told you, do a sudo apt-get update and see if it works, if not, go in and edit the sources.list and add those and then it will work
[09:59] <xMorphix> sivik: I like to sometimes I pretend to act like I know what your all talking about
[09:59] <fenotype> the problem is that my older kernel had a directory named volatile
[09:59] <xMorphix> sivik: however, if it doesn't work, might need to step me through it
[09:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: Im getting "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "disks-conf-hdb1"."
[09:59] <fenotype> ando others that the newer on hasn't got
[09:59] <sivik> xMorphix, ok
[10:00] <sivik> xMorphix, ok, do an sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <ReinH> guys, question, if I'm going to partition my HD to dual boot with WinXP, with a root ubuntu partition and a Ext3 partition for /home and shared date, how big should the root ubuntu partition be?
[10:00] <ReinH> (and also a partition for windows, of course)
[10:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Post your fstab for me pastebin of course
[10:00] <sivik> xMorphix, what package are you trying install that require the multiverse
[10:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: :) excellent
[10:00] <xMorphix> sivik: ok i'm downloading the sun-java5-jre / plugin / and fonts
[10:00] <Xabaras> enyone can help me for enable acelerator grafic
[10:00] <beuno> ReinH: it really depends on what your habits on installing software is
[10:00] <Xabaras> ??
[10:00] <sivik> ok, then it should have worked
[10:00] <beuno> in /home or el /usr
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, i'm pretty sure you need the multiverse for those
[10:01] <beuno> ReinH: I'd say no less de 6gb to be safe
[10:01] <kjm> ReinH - whole system will install in under 5 GB - but, if you plan on installing lots of libraries (KDE stuff, developer tools) I'd make it 10 - 15 GB to be safe.
[10:01] <xMorphix> sivik: oh yeah, I found them and they are downloading as we speak
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, then your all set
[10:01] <fenotype> Xabras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino
[10:01] <georgy> !nvidia
[10:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:01] <appelza> Hi how do I install eAccelerator ? 'apt-get install eAccelerator' gives me 'this package is referenced by another source..'
[10:01] <xMorphix> sivik: your always a treasure here, thanks sivik again
[10:01] <sivik> xMorphix, yw
[10:02] <fenotype> Xabaras: vieni su ubuntu-it che c' meno casino
[10:02] <appelza> !pkg eAccelerator
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24905
[10:02] <ReinH> beuno, kjm: thank you :) I think I'll go with a middle of the road 12GB. This will be a dev box and run a development (no public access) server
[10:02] <beuno> welcome :D
[10:02] <xMorphix> sivik: lol they are downloading, through a 820.11b at 210 b/s
[10:02] <beuno> you can always change the size later
[10:03] <kjm> appelza : apt-cache search eAccelerator finds nothing - what is it?
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: what type of wirless gives you 210b/s :P
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, that sucks
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Loading it up now...  we may need to edit your /etc/pmount.allow
[10:03] <ReinH> beuno: true :)
[10:03] <ReinH> thanks, guys
[10:03] <ReinH> expect to see me in here once I get things running :)
[10:03] <Tyk0s> Need help with an install error get it on both desktop & server version /msg
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, it kinda depends on how far away from the ap you are and how good the internet is to that ap
[10:03] <beuno> g'luck
[10:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Argh... those are all ntfs..
[10:03] <kjm> ReinH - you should be sage with 12 GB.  Also, I find it adventagous to put /etc on its own partition (as well as /home)
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: I know, I just think it's funny that it would be faster through dial-up
[10:03] <kjm> See you ReinH
[10:03] <xMorphix> sivik: yeees what is the world coming too
[10:03] <sivik> xMorphix, yes, thats rather funny
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, where are you getting this connection from?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: the annoying thing is I just want some work of each of them ...then its getting formatted
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I thought I taught you better than that...
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: local sandwhich place near me
[10:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok so you just want to read them and your fstab if fine.
[10:04] <kinection> exit
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: 100% connection, non-encrypted
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, how far from the location are you?
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: this drive was from my Windoze era
[10:04] <xMorphix> sivik: 12 feet
[10:04] <sivik> xMorphix, then they are just either full or don't have a good connection
[10:05] <sivik> antares79, that didn't fix it
[10:05] <CarlFK> when did 2.6.15-27-k7 come out?
[10:05] <xMorphix> jack_Sparrow: Congrats on the marriage thing, sorry your in "Jail" the rest of your life
[10:05] <xMorphix> jack_Sparrow: :p
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, a while back
[10:05] <antares79> sivik, as I said, you need a reboot
[10:05] <CarlFK> sivik: days or weeks?
[10:05] <Bordoch> can anyone tell me how to install a package so that all user account have access to that package?
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, well, the current most stable kernel is 2.6.17 something
[10:05] <sivik> CarlFK, so its been a while
[10:05] <Tyk0s> tried 2 linux versions now and come to same "error", both ubuntu desktop & server version. think i successfully boot with CD i think (becuase i get same thing on screen when i start with the CD), it stop with [DR-DOS] A:\>. It says something about Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 & DPMS Dos Protected mode services. please help :)
[10:05] <sivik> antares79, i did, i did it on the laptop and then i rebotted it
[10:05] <wols> Bordoch: depends a bit on the package, but normally there is no special way. so which package is it?
[10:05] <sivik> Tyk0s, your not burning the disc correctly
[10:06] <kjm> Bordoch - ?  All users do have access to every package they have permission to use.
[10:06] <sivik> Tyk0s, what program are you using to burn it
[10:06] <Tyk0s> nero express
[10:06] <Bordoch> sun run time envirinment
[10:06] <wols> Tyk0s: stop trolling
[10:06] <ReinH> kjm: just saw your comment: how big a partition should /etc have? and how advantageous?
[10:06] <jenda> I'm wondering - if I want to move my / partition - is it enough to copy it verbatim using gparted and setting the new one as / in fstab?
[10:06] <antares79> sivik, is it still the same message?  with LC_ALL=(unset) ?
[10:06] <rexbron> kitche: the glide packages unistalled mesa, and seeing as they are not for my card I reverted
[10:06] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Your burning the cd as an image correct?
[10:06] <Xabaras> !pkg eAccelerator
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg eAccelerator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <CarlFK> sivik: shouldn't the 'check for updates' be telling me there is a new one?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> Tyk0s,  look on the cd. and see what files are on it at this time.
[10:06] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: and not as a "data-file"
[10:06] <lewix> you're going to drive back and forth?
[10:06] <antares79> jenda: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub afterwards as well
[10:06] <sivik> CarlFK, it depends on what your repos say, are you in breezy or dapper?
[10:06] <rexbron> kitche; also, (this happened before too) it get
[10:06] <rexbron> glxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.
[10:06] <rexbron> Aborted
[10:07] <sivik> antares79, not the same
[10:07] <CarlFK> sivik: dapper
[10:07] <Dr_willis> Tyk0s,  you may want to use the program 'burn at once' under windows - it makes burtning an .iso image easy.
[10:07] <Tyk0s> downloaded the swedish version and i burn it as a "bootable data disc"
[10:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: My fmask is 0111 and my dmask is 0000
[10:07] <antares79> sivik, what does it say instead?
[10:07] <sivik> Tyk0s, you can't do it that way, you have to burn as an image not as a file
[10:07] <sivik> antares79, let me get it to you
[10:07] <Adept2point0> Ok, something got messed up, after ctrl-alt-backspace, I go back to my Ubuntu login screen, which is in higher resolution, and I enter my login and password. After that, my screen clicks, but kicks me to command only. Again it asks for my login and pass, I enter it, and back to the ubuntu GUI log in, this goes back and forth, not every time verbatim, but the same routine. Eventually I find myself at the command screen only viewing
[10:07] <Adept2point0> brooks@brooks-desktop:~$
[10:07] <Adept2point0> and a blinking cursor, I don't know what I did or how to get back to my desktop.
[10:07] <rexbron> kitche: should i possibly file a bug?
[10:07] <jenda> antares79: thx
[10:07] <Tyk0s> okey, thx i try it out :)
[10:07] <Adept2point0> sorry wrong clipboard
[10:07] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: yeah bootable data won't auto boot up
[10:07] <sivik> Adept2point0, to get back, startx
[10:07] <Adept2point0> o.O
[10:08] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Let me know
[10:08] <Adept2point0> startx at the command only screen?
[10:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to look up the difference..  DO you have more than 1 user defined
[10:08] <sivik> Adept2point0, yes
[10:08] <Bordoch> thanks anyway - regards
[10:08] <Adept2point0> won't it just put me back at the log in, and after trying to logging in, put me back to the command only?
[10:08] <Adept2point0> or startx runs the desktop
[10:08] <sivik> Adept2point0, it shouldn't if you have everything installed correctly
[10:09] <sivik> Adept2point0, startx should start the desktop
[10:09] <Adept2point0> so uhhh just type startx?
[10:09] <Adept2point0> seems too simple
[10:09] <Adept2point0> lol brb, and thanks a lot sivik
[10:09] <kjm> ReinH - it just stores config stuff (like for X11, apt, samba sshd etc.).  So, if needing a reinstall - you don't need to reconfig all of that stuff.  Mine is 16 MB right now, I partitioned it for 200 MB.
[10:09] <sivik> Adept2point0, yw
[10:09] <ReinH> kjm: gotcha, sounds like a good idea :)
[10:09] <kjm> ReinH - i mean /etc has about 16 MB of data.  It is pretty much all text files.
[10:10] <ReinH> kjm: I would assume you aren't dual booting?
[10:10] <sivik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24907
[10:10] <jdahm> I have a problem with my gnome desktop, the mouse keeps randomly disappearing, mostly on startup
[10:10] <Tyk0s> xMorphix, burning new cd atm. gonna try it out & tell if it worked or not :P
[10:11] <kjm> I am - Set up a extended parition for linux.  So, I have 2 primary partitions, and 1 extended one.  The extended partition is then partitioned into /etc/ /swap and /home.  Primary hda1 is windows and hda2 is /
[10:11] <antares79> thanks, sivik
[10:11] <sivik> antares79, thanks for what?
[10:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: i replaced all entries "with" the ntfs FS to fmask=0111,dmask=0000 is this correct, ps the original numbers are the only things i have changed
[10:11] <sivik> antares79, for giving you that url?
[10:11] <sivik> kjm: whats the problem
[10:11] <kjm> ReinH - it is a little more difficult to set up initially - but, I think it pays off in the end.
[10:11] <sivik> Tyk0s, are you burning it as in image
[10:11] <Tyk0s> yes
[10:12] <kjm> sivik - nothing - sorry - forgot to put persons name in front......was a response
[10:12] <antares79> sivik, please run "locale -a" in a console and check whether it says en_US.utf8 somewhere
[10:12] <sivik> kjm: ok
[10:13] <Tyk0s> Disc Image works fine?
[10:13] <sivik> Tyk0s, yes
[10:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: gksudo nautilus and see if you can browse to them
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:13] <Tyk0s> great then im done :) brb trying it :)
[10:14] <sivik> antares79, paste.ubuntu-ul.org/24908
[10:14] <ReinH> kjm: and how big is your /swap partition? (and that's it for my questions for now, I believe) :)
[10:14] <asd> hello all, at our school we have ~900 kids. How can I put them all in the group audio and pmount, without having to write all the names in /etc/group?
[10:14] <ReinH> kjm: oh, one more: what tool do you use to partition?
[10:14] <antares79> thanks, sivik
[10:14] <kjm> ReinH - 1 GB - good rule of thumb is 1.5 x Physical ram.
[10:15] <jenda> ReinH: gparted is the best tool, IMO
[10:15] <sivik> kjm: yeah, thats smart
[10:15] <kjm> ReinH - I use gparted
[10:15] <sivik> kjm: i use 2 x but thats just me
[10:15] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: yes, I can browse them with gksudo nautilus although not as myself
[10:15] <ReinH> :)
[10:15] <jenda> I'm off, will be back (hopefully)
[10:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok at least you can pull what you need...
[10:15] <ReinH> this box has 512MB, so 1GB is no problem.
[10:15] <sivik> ReinH, thats good
[10:16] <ReinH> I'm actually planning on getting rid of windows on this box permanently once my laptop arrives (yay) :D
[10:16] <antares79> sivik... it complains about LC_COLLATE, yet you don't specify it explicitly anymore... except maybe in your ~/.bash_profile or something
[10:16] <jenda> Oh one more thing... what is the current easiest way of reinstalling grub/restoring MBR after a Win2k install?
[10:16] <ReinH> and I would put linux on it if I didn't want to play games :p
[10:16] <antares79> can you please run "set | grep LC_"? thanks
[10:16] <kjm> ReinH - yup.  2 of my machines are windowless.  It's just a shame that I need DirectX to shoot people when I'm in the mood :)
[10:16] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me setting a specific extension on firefox?
[10:16] <ReinH> kjm: indeed
[10:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Back to work for me..  play nice..
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: nice one :) ...when  i do get what I want copied over fill formatting the drive be simple? and what fs type should i use..not ntfs anyway
[10:17] <sivik_> antares79, LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
[10:17] <ReinH> I see no reason to have windows on a dev box -- and a lot of reasons not to
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> *will
[10:17] <antares79> sivik: nothing else, just that one line?
[10:17] <sivik_> yes
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I dual boot so I have a fat32 to share..
[10:17] <antares79> that's good
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Depends on your needs
[10:17] <ReinH> I really appreciate having such a supportive community, by the way :) makes me more confident in my choice of distro
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: i have a SimplyMepis DVD that i would like to dual boot an try also
[10:17] <ReinH> cheers, folks, I'll be back once I get it up and running
[10:17] <sivik_> ReinH, good for you
[10:18] <SurfnKid> The RTSP extension (Real Player Streaming Protocol) when i click on the link, it says firefox doesnt have an associated program with it, so when i go to the View & Actions option, i cant find the extension to assign a program
[10:18] <sivik_> ReinH, and good luck with making a good choice
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Mepis 6.0?
[10:18] <kjm> ReinH - good luck with it - see you in a few
[10:18] <ReinH> sivik_ ;)
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: from linux magazine
[10:18] <Adept2point0> sivik: no luck, server error  something like fatal error 11 and aborted it
[10:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You'll like it, I ran a Mepis box for years, I am always hanging in there, but the support is non-existent
[10:18] <sivik_> Adept2point0, that means you have to edit the xorg.conf file
[10:18] <jenda> Restoring MBR after windows install - anyone?
[10:18] <antares79> sivik, please run "sudo locale-gen"
[10:18] <tkfu> i'm trying to unmount a samba share that i mounted using smbmount, but umount says "the volume appears to be mounted multiple times"
[10:19] <antares79> what does it say about en_US.UTF-8?
[10:19] <tkfu> and mtab confirms that's the case
[10:19] <runes2006> is there a command to get ubuntu to redetect all hardware?
[10:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[10:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:19] <tkfu> how do i unmount?
[10:19] <ReinH> kjm: do you use gparted from a live cd?
[10:19] <sivik_> antares79, it just said up-to-date and then generation complete
[10:19] <SurfnKid> whats the firefox channel for help
[10:19] <jenda> ReinH: I just did. It's preinstalled there.
[10:19] <Adept2point0> whats the command to edit the xorg.conf file?
[10:19] <Adept2point0> and just what am i looking for
[10:19] <kjm> ReinH - ya - I always have a copy of Knoppix kicking around.
[10:19] <ReinH> kjm :)
[10:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow: thx for the head start, gonna try Mepis and see what I think... I also have OpenSuse 10.1 and the latest freespire so I should have fun
[10:19] <kjm> ReinH - but, it is on the live CD install.
[10:19] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:19] <antares79> ok, sivik, so your locales are actually fine
[10:20] <Adept2point0> nvm, i think i got it
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> :) , have fun
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: You know where to find me..
[10:20] <kjm> ReinH  - just select the "Manually edit partition table"
[10:20] <tkfu> anyone help me on how to unmount this thing?
[10:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cya
[10:20] <Paddy_EIRE> yep
[10:20] <sivik_> antares79, yeah, so why am i still getting that error
[10:20] <antares79> there's only one thing left that comes to my mind
[10:20] <runes2006> www.google.ca
[10:20] <runes2006> oops
[10:20] <sivik_> tkfu sudo umount /hardware/folderlocation
[10:20] <tkfu> thanks sivik_, but as i said, it's somehow mounted multiple times, so umount chokes
[10:20] <sivik_> how do i tell linux which .dm to use
[10:21] <sivik_> tkfu: what is it?
[10:21] <sivik_> tkfu: what type of device
[10:21] <antares79> sivik, sorry, at this point i don't have a clue... everything looks fine, except for the error message
[10:21] <sivik_> nvm, found it
[10:21] <tkfu> it's a samba share
[10:21] <sivik_> antares79, ok
[10:21] <wols> sivik_: under "options" in gdm for example
[10:21] <ReinH> I think I'm going to make a gparted live CD, sounds nice to have around
[10:21] <sivik_> antares79, thanks for the help
[10:21] <sivik_> wols: i found it
[10:21] <briank> does anyone know how to get omnifunc to work in VIM 7, I'm getting: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set
[10:21] <Iam8up|lpy> is there a way to install php4 via apt-get? all i get is php5 and i absolutly have to have 4
[10:22] <antares79> np, sivik. sorry
[10:22] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:22] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, do a apt-cache search php4
[10:22] <Iam8up|lpy> ReinH - a LOT
[10:22] <kjm> ReinH - has saved my bacon on numerous occasion.  ALthough - you can mount your physical drive from the Ubuntu install cd and run gparted
[10:22] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, and then do something along the lines of apt-get install php4-xxxxxx
[10:22] <ReinH> ah
[10:23] <Iam8up|lpy> sivik_ - jluthman@simba:~$ sudo apt-cache search php4
[10:23] <Iam8up|lpy> apache2-prefork-dev - development headers for apache2
[10:23] <kjm> But a gparted live cd is "specialized" for it - and easier to use (IMHO)
[10:24] <Iam8up|lpy> sivik_ - i did an update just before i did that command, too...should i add/uncomment a server to get php4?
[10:24] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, not sure
[10:24] <tkfu> for anyone interested, i solved my problem by doing sudo umount -a -t smbfs
[10:24] <sivik_> Iam8up|lpy, not sure, i don't do anything with php4, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type php4
[10:24] <sivik_> tkfu: good for you
[10:24] <tkfu> that got around the hiccup umount was having trying to figure out which instance to unmount
[10:25] <Ych> is there something allready integrated into ubuntu so i can save cds or dvds as isos?
[10:25] <rexbron> can anyone identify whats wrong I get this when i rn glxgears
[10:26] <rexbron> glxgears: intel_ioctl.c:62: intelEmitIrqLocked: Assertion `((*(int *)intel->driHwLock) & ~0x40000000U) == (0x80000000U|intel->hHWContext)' failed.
[10:26] <rexbron> Aborted
[10:26] <boitono> Ych, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/noob/dvd.iso
[10:26] <sivik_> rexbron, you probably don't have your drivers installed correctly
[10:26] <rexbron> hmm
[10:27] <WinterWeaver> !ntfs
[10:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:27] <rexbron> silvk_: I have an i915, the only change I have made recently is to reinstal meda
[10:27] <rexbron> mesa
[10:27] <runes2006> I've upgraded my machine but the motherboard and cpu are completely different from the original  how do I get ubuntu to redetect the new hardware?
[10:27] <sivik_> rexbron, then you haven't gotten the configuration correct yet
[10:28] <WinterWeaver> 1fuse
[10:28] <WinterWeaver> !fuse
[10:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:28] <sivik_> rexbron, not sure what to do, i don't have intel
[10:28] <rexbron> silvk_: where is mesa configured? xorg.conf
[10:28] <boitono> firefox crashes at random times with latest flash player installed from adobe, is there a known solution to this?
[10:28] <UCG> Does anyone here run zabbix???
[10:28] <sivik_> rexbron, yes
[10:29] <rexbron> brb
[10:29] <kjm> biotono - uninstall flash will be a solution.
[10:29] <xMorphix> sivik: people on #ubuntu-offtopic are mean :(
[10:29] <sivik_> xMorphix, i'm sorry, do you have another problem
[10:29] <boitono> kjm, is there an alvertative to flash?
[10:29] <kjm> boitono - nope.
[10:29] <wols> boitono: no
[10:30] <boitono> then that is not a solution
[10:30] <xMorphix> sivik: well i'm so new to linux, and I used ubuntu as my starting point
[10:30] <canute> Hi there, I was trying to install gnomad2, but then some error came up and it says that i should do "sudo apt-get -f install" however that also gives me an errror: http://pastebin.ca/183330
[10:30] <Ych> boitono, thankx
[10:30] <sivik_> xMorphix, good choice
[10:30] <xMorphix> sivik: whats my best bet to start learning the inner workings of linux
[10:30] <knoppix_> i am new to knoppix just wanted to say hi but i have to go so i can keep learning
[10:30] <wols> xMorphix: not using Ubuntu (seriously)
[10:30] <Ych> boitono, nice home directory ;)
[10:30] <sivik_> xMorphix, what do you mean by the inner working of linux?  like how it actually works or what?
[10:30] <kjm> boitono - it would stop the random crashes - hence a solution.  The new flash from Adobe is a hunk of garbage IMHO
[10:31] <boitono> Ych, you're welcome, I do what I can to lighten the mood ;-)
[10:31] <sivik_> kjm: thats true
[10:31] <xMorphix> sivik: yeah, just all the commands in terminal
[10:31] <wols> xMorphix: Ubuntu is a "just works" distro where tasks are done for you. you don't learn much this way. use several different distros, don't use wizards to configure them, edit config files. break lots of things, doe a LFS install (linux from scratch), etc
[10:31] <ReinH> one more question, what's the current relationship between ubuntu and debian sid?
[10:31] <briank>  I still can't get this to work, I'm in vim 7 and it says: E764: Option 'omnifunc' is not set when I hit Ctrl-x Ctrl-o, I am new to vim, can somebody help?
[10:31] <wols> xMorphix: console command reference is not learning the inner workings
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: yeah, I have a few I am going to work around with
[10:32] <skoenman> hey people
[10:32] <ReinH> briank: /join #vim :)
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: I know, i just like learning a little bit at a time
[10:32] <skoenman> does anybody know of a book i can download for ubuntu so i dont have to bug you guys the whole time???
[10:32] <wols> xMorphix: I gave you some pointers what to do
[10:32] <sivik_> wols; thats what i do, i'm break alot of stuff
[10:32] <kjm> skoenman - now that's no fun.
[10:32] <xMorphix> wols: I know, i'll use em thanks
[10:32] <skoenman> lol
[10:33] <wols> skoenman: ubuntu manual. and use google a lot with keyword "ubuntu"
[10:33] <Dr_willis> skoenman,  the ubuntu homepage has guides  - and theres always google. and tldp.org
[10:33] <xMorphix> sivik: linux is such a change from windows
[10:33] <sivik_> wols: yeah
[10:33] <sivik_> Dr_willis, what is tldp.org
[10:33] <wols> sivik_: but you ask here to fix it. you need to fix it on your own
[10:33] <xMorphix> sivik: whole new world
[10:33] <Somniis> skoenman: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:33] <kjm> skoeman: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/282
[10:33] <xMorphix> wols: that's what this channel is for
[10:33] <Dr_willis> sivik_,  go there and find out.
[10:33] <sivik_> wols: actually, normally when i ask in here, i have already tried a bunch of stuff and searched around
[10:33] <wols> sivik_: the linux documentation project. can you just go there
[10:33] <rexbron> silvk_: its not giving me the error anymore, but performance in guild wars (with wine is really bad) Like it can not load the opening screen before having to refresh
[10:33] <skoenman> k
[10:33] <xMorphix> wols: isn't it?
[10:33] <wols> xMorphix: it is, but it's not good if you ewant to learn...
[10:33] <sivik_> Dr_willis, cool
[10:33] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: How did it work out for you?
[10:34] <Tyk0s> It worked fine :) thx for help :>
[10:34] <wols> xMorphix: no good when then others solve your problems.
[10:34] <xMorphix> wols: that is true
[10:34] <sivik_> xMorphix, very much so
[10:34] <skoenman> k cool
[10:34] <xMorphix> wols: linux right now for me, is like trying to read hebrew
[10:34] <runes> is there a way to force ubuntu to redetect all hardware?
[10:34] <sivik_> xMorphix, the best way to learn, is just to play with it
[10:34] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: Nice, so it booted up
[10:34] <Tyk0s> checked around a little bit :) seems really nice :D im windows user atm. but thinking on to try out linux for a while.. ubuntu good for beginners?
[10:35] <wols> runes: do you have problems?
[10:35] <xMorphix> Tyk0s: It is very user friendly
[10:35] <runes> wols, i swapped motherboard the only thing the same in this machine is the drive
[10:35] <Tyk0s> okok :) i'm a gamer aswell.. does world of warcraft, counter strike, warcraft 3 work fine threw Wine?
[10:36] <runes> wols, but the system did not redetect on boot
[10:36] <sivik_> runes, then it probably already regonized and did what it needed to for the new h/w
[10:36] <wols> runes: I didn't ask you that. I asked you: are there any psecific problems?
[10:36] <Tyk0s> threw,with take it as u wish :)
[10:36] <sivik_> Tyk0s, go to www.winehq.com and look there and you could always try cedege
[10:36] <runes> wols major slow downs
[10:36] <wols> Tyk0s: appdb.winehq.com
[10:36] <Tyk0s> hmm okey
[10:36] <wols> runes: of what? disk access?
[10:36] <sivik_> Tyk0s, wow works well with wine and there is a linux native for cs
[10:36] <runes> wols yes
[10:36] <wols> Tyk0s: and no, you won't be happy in linx as a gamer. stay in windows
[10:37] <Tyk0s> okey that's good.
[10:37] <runes> wols also video res too low
[10:37] <wols> for the vidoe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <sivik_> Tyk0s, thats why you dual boot
[10:37] <wols> disk would be busmaster dma
[10:37] <Tyk0s> hehe okey.
[10:37] <runes> wols bios enabed not sure in os though
[10:38] <wols> runes: dmesg will tell: "BM-DMA" usually
[10:38] <Tyk0s> so it slows down the computer even more with wine?
[10:38] <sivik_> Tyk0s, no, not always, i know ppl that say WoW runs better with wine than in windows
[10:38] <Tyk0s> hmm okey. i mainly play wow so
[10:39] <runes> wols vfs: busy inodes on changed media
[10:39] <wols> runes: huh?
[10:39] <sivik_> Tyk0s, i know like 4 ppl that play wow in linux and still dual boot and they just run in linux because it runs better, can't say that would be true with you, just what i have heard throught the grapevine
[10:39] <wols> Tyk0s: what videocard do you have?
[10:40] <runes> wols that is the message that scrolls off the screen when I run dmesg
[10:40] <Sivik> runes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom
[10:40] <wols> runes: dmesg|less
[10:40] <Tyk0s> got like 15-20fps on my computer :/ my computer: cpu: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2991MHz), mem: 1024MB, gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
[10:40] <wols> Sivik: wrong in this case
[10:40] <Sivik> Tyk0s, nice card
[10:40] <serapio> hola
[10:40] <serapio> hola
[10:40] <darkanyel> hola
[10:40] <Sivik> wols: what case?
[10:41] <serapio> hola
[10:41] <LoRez> Warning: `darkanyel,serapio' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[10:41] <wols> runes's case
[10:41] <serapio> spanish
[10:41] <runes> wols and Sivik  exact same message
[10:41] <ladydoor> !es
[10:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:41] <Tyk0s> some of my friends doesnt have that good computer that i have but they have more fps then i can't understand it
[10:41] <serapio> thank
[10:41] <Sivik> wols: what case are you referring to
[10:41] <wols> Sivik: if he has busmaster dMA on his harddisks
[10:42] <Sivik> wols: i never said anything about busmaster dma or anything
[10:42] <Sivik> wols: i was just telling him that i know ppl that say WoW runs better in linux than in windows
[10:42] <wols>  Sivik> runes: yes, but the stuff that matters, that happened recently, happen at the bottom <- that's what you said. and for people looking at BM-DMA this is WRONG.
[10:42] <wols> Sivik: and runes isn't trying to run WoW
[10:43] <runes> wols and Sivik nope same message all the way to the <end>
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> I've locked myself out of a remote (server) box, but am able to execute commands under the web server user.
[10:43] <Sivik> wols: i don't remember sending runes a message
[10:43] <wols> runes: you use the command wrong. dmesg | less
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> does anyone know of a way to edit the inetd.conf file as the web user?
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> I have the root password and whatnot
[10:43] <UKMatt> hey, does anyone know a link that shows you how to install a .tar.gz
[10:43] <CrimsonKing> but its a default webuser setup
[10:43] <wols> Sivik: then scroll up
[10:43] <runes> sec
[10:43] <wols> CrimsonKing: why would you do that?
[10:44] <Sivik> wols: all i was talking about that new stuff that happens in the dmesg is at the bottem, i didn't know he was talking about the dm stuff
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: because I've messed up my inetd.conf
[10:44] <bimberi> CrimsonKing: 'su -' and the root password will get you a root login shell
[10:44] <lupine_85> su root if you have the root passsword
[10:44] <ladydoor> UKMatt: are you trying to install a program from source?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> not realizing it ran my sshd, i've ran it to localhost
[10:44] <runes> wols, nope exactly as shown with a space betwween the commang and argument
[10:44] <Justy-> hello
[10:44] <wols> CrimsonKing: unfortunate but what has that to do with the "web user"?
[10:44] <Sivik> sorry if i screwed up, i'm just trying to help
[10:44] <Tyk0s> hard to configure wine then?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: because i have a php script
[10:44] <UKMatt> ladydoor, mmm, i don't think it's the source code, but it's a tarball
[10:44] <wols> runes: what do you press for the "|" ?
[10:44] <CrimsonKing> wols: that i can run system() command with
[10:44] <runes> |
[10:45] <Justy-> question: how can i copy "a folder with its subfolders and subfiles" to somewhere
[10:45] <Sivik> Tyk0s, ?
[10:45] <ladydoor> UKMatt: ??? is it a binary package then? if so, there should be instructions on the websit...
[10:45] <ladydoor> *website
[10:45] <CrimsonKing> i've tried echo mypassword | sudo -S su, but it won't take the password
[10:45] <wols> CrimsonKing: you can't
[10:45] <lupine_85> Justy: cp -a
[10:45] <wols> CrimsonKing: can't you log in?
[10:45] <Justy-> lupine_85, thanks
[10:45] <Tyk0s> Sivik, how does it work then? load the .exe file in ure wow dic?
[10:45] <CrimsonKing> wols: no, my sshd has been locked down to localhost alone
[10:45] <Tyk0s> dir*
[10:45] <Sivik> Tyk0s, wine /location/of/setup.exe
[10:45] <runes> wols lspci shows the controllers correctly
[10:46] <wols> CrimsonKing: what good does a sshd for localhost?
[10:46] <wols> runes: what do you press for the "|" ?
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: exactly dude
[10:46] <Sivik> wols: how do i change hat port ssh uses
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow
[10:46] <wols> runes: the command would display one screen of dmesg output at a time
[10:46] <CrimsonKing> wols: so i need to fix my hosts.allow from my web user account
[10:46] <ladydoor> wols: it should be above the backslash on american english keyboards, i think
[10:47] <runes> wols [17503394.324000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[10:47] <wols> Sivik: /etc/ssh/sshd_config IIRC
[10:47] <Sivik> wols: the school seems to have blocked port 22 but they haven't blocked port 80 yet, i will just move my ssh to that port
[10:47] <wols> CrimsonKing: another root only file
[10:47] <runes> wols I am not using the separated pipe
[10:47] <CrimsonKing> wols: right, so all i need to do is gain access and edit the file in one command
[10:47] <wols> fyrestrtr: you could maybe search for a cgi or php based "shell" which works via webbrowser
[10:47] <CrimsonKing> wols: from the web user account
[10:47] <runes> wols I am using the |
[10:47] <darkanyel> how can i erease all the programs that i installed in ubuntu and return to the default configuration???
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> wols: its not like i don't have the root password
[10:48] <fredrik> hi
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, if you need to edit a root only file, start the computer into the recovery console from the grub menu
[10:48] <wols> CrimsonKing: you ALWAYS need to give the password when doing sudo...
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: its about 2000 miles away
[10:48] <Justy-> hello
[10:48] <wols> CrimsonKing: and you can't enter that with system()
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, then you sudo su to be a root onto that machine
[10:48] <ktogias> darkanyel, why do you want to do such a thing?
[10:48] <CrimsonKing> wols: if my www-data user could sudo i could do it
[10:48] <fredrik> can someone tell me how to configure my wireless pc card please
[10:48] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, or you can sudo whateveryouaredoing and then use the password
[10:48] <Justy-> question: how can i chmod a folder with its subfolders and subfiles?
[10:48] <jozzeph> hello i have problems with my java
[10:48] <wols> darkanyel: reinstall
[10:48] <Sivik> fredrik, what brand card?
[10:48] <runes> wols to the right side shift button there is the separated pipe when I hit shift and the key it gives me |
[10:48] <jozzeph> span.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}
[10:48] <darkanyel> ktogias, i think that i installed lots of stupid rhings
[10:49] <wols> Justy-: man chmod
[10:49] <fredrik> netgear wg511T
[10:49] <jozzeph> whats wrong with java and ubuntu?
[10:49] <darkanyel> ktogias, i wanna restart all!!!
[10:49] <Sivik> fredrik, not sure
[10:49] <wols> runes: ok, seems to be right, but then why wouldn't it use less?
[10:49] <Justy-> wols, naah thanks =( and sorry it is too late here
[10:49] <wols> runes: maybe try dmesg |grep BM
[10:49] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm doing this from a php script executing under the www-data
[10:49] <runes> wol good question it keeps saying that it is busy
[10:49] <runes> and yes I am su root
[10:49] <jozzeph> problems with java ever since fedora
[10:49] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, not sure, i will shut up
[10:49] <CrimsonKing> sudo won't allow the www-data user to su
[10:50] <ktogias> darkanyel, Having progs installed does not harm the system, except the space on the disk that they occupate...
[10:50] <wols> runes: wouldn't matter here
[10:50] <runes> oh ok
[10:50] <jozzeph> sometimes my java works
[10:50] <wols> runes: WHAT is busy?
[10:50] <jozzeph> then suddenly java dont work anymore
[10:50] <whaley> jozzeph: what is wrong with it?
[10:50] <whaley> what specifically
[10:50] <wols> CrimsonKing: then su would
[10:50] <fredrik> sivik, do you think it is a driver matter
[10:50] <jozzeph> whats wrong with java and ubunbtu/linuz...
[10:50] <Sivik> fredrik, not sure
[10:51] <CrimsonKing> wols: su's problem is it says 'it must be run from a terminal'
[10:51] <whaley> jozzeph: are you using sun's jvm?
[10:51] <CrimsonKing> wols: meaning i can't pass my password in through STDIN
[10:51] <Sivik> jozzeph, i don't have any problem with using the java plugin from apt-get
[10:51] <jozzeph> i tried 2 different whaley
[10:51] <fredrik> ok, is there any one else out there do u think
[10:51] <wols> !wireless > fredrik
[10:51] <Sivik> fredrik, probably
[10:51] <fredrik> yes
[10:51] <darkanyel> ktogias,:S
[10:51] <Sivik> fredrik, chick the ubuntuforum.org i think is the url
[10:51] <runes> wols busy inodes on cahnged mesia
[10:51] <jozzeph> i [;ay a java game 'runesca[e'
[10:51] <whaley> jozzeph: which 2 jvm's, and what particular error(s) are you getting?
[10:51] <jozzeph> i play a java game runsescape
[10:51] <runes> wols busy inodes on changed media
[10:51] <darkanyel> ktogias, but is a way to do that?
[10:51] <fredrik> ok thanks
[10:52] <jozzeph> eh i will tell in a few
[10:52] <fredrik> wols, you seemed to have a clue, is it so
[10:52] <CSWookie_> Hey folks.  I'm trying to install Dapper on my desktop computer, and it hangs when I try to set the keyboard layout.
[10:53] <jozzeph> i think the best is jre2 as told in the unofficial guide
[10:53] <CSWookie_> Anybody heard of this problem?
[10:53] <Sivik> CSWookie_, are you choosing the right one
[10:53] <jozzeph> the other is wrapper or something like that
[10:53] <CSWookie_> Sivik: I'm using the default, American English.
[10:53] <Sivik> CSWookie_, not sure then
[10:53] <jozzeph> i have 1 java from easy ubuntu i think
[10:53] <wols> fredrik: check what chip that wifi card usesu (if it's via pci: lspci -v) and then check if ubuntu supports that chip
[10:53] <ktogias> darkanyel, I do not know if there is a way to automatically uninstall all the progs you have installed after the installation... But you can uninstall any specific prog you do not need anymore through synaptic or from console with apt-get remove
[10:53] <jozzeph> and the other of dapper gyude
[10:53] <jozzeph> guide
[10:54] <wols> fredrik: brand names like netgesr mean nothing
[10:54] <runes> wols hdparm shows dma is on
[10:54] <wols> runes: busmaster dma. different thing. basically the proper driver for the ide chipset
[10:54] <runes> wols (I used the ubuntu guide to check that)
[10:54] <Sivik> jozzeph, at this poing of time, they might be interacting weird
[10:54] <runes> wols ok not sure about that one
[10:54] <Sivik> jozzeph, and that might cause a problem
[10:54] <fredrik> wols, do i check the cip in the terminal
[10:54] <wols> runes: and: the media message thing is about remvable media like CDs. not harddisk
[10:54] <jozzeph> should i reinstall ubuntu for my java?
[10:55] <CrimsonKing> can I use sudo to switch to another non-root user in ubuntu?
[10:55] <wols> fredrik: I already told you. lspci
[10:55] <CrimsonKing> without needing proper sudo su access
[10:55] <runes> wols ver weird
[10:55] <wols> CrimsonKing: no
[10:55] <wols> runes: what happens if you do "dmesg > output"
[10:55] <darkanyel> ktogias, i tried to unistall cedega, but there are rests of that!
[10:55] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, your using ssh right, you have to log in with that use to use a different one
[10:55] <wols> runes:  and then upload the file here:
[10:55] <wols> !paster
[10:55] <jozzeph> why java worked at the beginning and then stopped without any change?
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <wols> !paste
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:56] <wols> to this paste url
[10:56] <ucordes> maybe you will laugh about this problem, but when i try to put things in my personal folder icon on the desktop it says no such folder. but i can open it. how can i solve this?
[10:56] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: dude you might have given me the answer
[10:56] <jozzeph> i used the same things as before but java stopped suddenly
[10:56] <jozzeph> so why
[10:56] <CrimsonKing> lets see how php handles a php system call which ssh's to the localhost host as myself, runs a sudo which runs a command
[10:56] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, yw
[10:56] <runes> !paste
[10:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:57] <Sivik> jozzeph, have you upgraded anything recently?
[10:57] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: i think you can su to another user--just not, by default, root
[10:57] <daxxar> Anyone know if, after generating a lircd.conf from irrecord, I can teach it a single new button? (Same remote)
[10:57] <jozzeph> eh upgrade didnt influence it
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: can you verify that for me, maybe?
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> (please?)
[10:57] <daxxar> Seems like I have to run irrecord from scratch and reteach it everything.
[10:57] <rfabrino2> fala fi
[10:57] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: i don't have any ubuntu boxes except for this server
[10:57] <jozzeph> it helped when i restarted my browser sometimes
[10:58] <jozzeph> so thats strange isnt it
[10:58] <bthornton> How is the data for all of the launchers in the GNOME menu stored on the disk?  Is it one file, or is it structured in directories with a file for each launcher?
[10:58] <jozzeph> java did work but not completely sometimes
[10:59] <jozzeph> now it works too but i cannot fill in my username for the game
[10:59] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: yup, it definitely works.
[10:59] <bthornton> And, whether it's one file or a series of a directory, where is the data located?
[10:59] <jozzeph> i have a lot of error messages in java console
[10:59] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: ha! that is awesome, you are my hero.
[11:00] <jozzeph> it seems java doesnt understand the mouse moving
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: why thank you! i've never been a hero just for doing a small favor, but that works i guess
[11:00] <Sivik> lol
[11:00] <jozzeph> on a text field
[11:00] <wols> ladydoor: su to another user without giving a password?
[11:00] <ladydoor> wols: you do have to give a password
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: you do have to give a password, though
[11:00] <jozzeph> java worked at first with mozilla
[11:00] <wols> exactly
[11:00] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: *that user's* password
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: oh, was that the question?
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: whoops
[11:01] <jozzeph> but not with firefox
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: its fine, i have a password
[11:01] <wols> ladydoor: stuff with questionmarks at the end usually are
[11:01] <jenda> What is the best way to restore GRUB?
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: you did sudo su <usernamehere> right?
[11:01] <wols> CrimsonKing: how wil you enter that password?
[11:01] <jozzeph> so i removed mozilla
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> sudo accepts -S
[11:01] <ladydoor> wols: no, i mean i was wondering if that was *his* password
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> whcih takes input from standard input
[11:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: no, just su username
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> ugh
[11:01] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: and then enter that user's password
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> yea that i can't do, evermind
[11:01] <jozzeph> i will reinstall ubuntu for the 20th time
[11:01] <CrimsonKing> su needs its own terminal
[11:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: why?
[11:02] <jozzeph> and first remove mozilla
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: because i don't actually have a terminal
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> all i have is a php script
[11:02] <jozzeph> then install java
[11:02] <jozzeph> jre2
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> which i can enter random system() commands in
[11:02] <jozzeph> maybe it will work
[11:02] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: well, let me try sudo su
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> which means now i'm going to try ssh'ing to localhost with my password than sudo su'ing
[11:02] <wols> ladydoor: he has a server 2000miles away but removed remote ssh login
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: aye, couldn't hurt
[11:02] <ladydoor> wols: wow
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> not likely though
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> since i know how it works
[11:02] <runes> wols pastebin tells me no text given when I paste the results of the file
[11:02] <CrimsonKing> i didn't know inetd powers ubuntu's sshd
[11:03] <wols> runes: how big is the file?
[11:03] <CrimsonKing> but you can bet i do now
[11:03] <wols> runes: maybe check your kern.log instead
[11:03] <wols> runes: or reboot and on bootup use dmesg |less
[11:03] <oi_2_filoi> hi any china girl?
[11:03] <runes> wols 124052
[11:03] <whurley> anyone seen issues with Ubuntu server and installing on a dual proc box?
[11:03] <Sh4d0x> hi there new ubuntu user
[11:03] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: you can use sudo su to become another user
[11:03] <jenda> How can I restore GRUB after a windows install?
[11:03] <jozzeph> IE\:clientCaps {behavior:url(#default#clientcaps)}
[11:03] <jozzeph> what does that mean?
[11:04] <wols> !grub > jenda
[11:04] <Sh4d0x> !grub > jenda
[11:04] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: right, but my web user can't use sudo su to become root
[11:04] <jenda> thx
[11:04] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: right, but you can become another user with it...
[11:04] <runes> wols I though there was a way to force the kernel to redetect al hardware not sure what that command was
[11:04] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: even if you don't have the usual root privledges?
[11:04] <jozzeph> and: span.lev1 { display: block; cursor: pointer; cursor: hand; position: absolute; top: -10px; left: -10px; width: 200px; height: 100px;}
[11:04] <runes> modprobe?
[11:04] <jenda> (and now... how do I switch tabs in irssi?)
[11:04] <Neo8750> alt+#
[11:04] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: *shrug*. can you use sudo at all?
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> ladydoor: not on this user.
[11:05] <jenda> Neo8750: that switches the terminal tabs
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> (problably)
[11:05] <Neo8750> or ctrl +n/ctrl+p
[11:05] <ladydoor> jenda: or alt+n/alt+p
[11:05] <wols> runes: not the kernel
[11:05] <jenda> ok
[11:05] <ladydoor> CrimsonKing: oh. :-(
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> i don't know what ubuntu's defaults are for the www-user
[11:05] <jozzeph> and: .r1 td { background-color: #362D1A; font-weight; bold; }
[11:05] <CrimsonKing> hence here i am
[11:05] <wols> runes: man discover such perhaps
[11:05] <jmitchj> having a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?
[11:05] <jozzeph> all marked as errors
[11:05] <Neo8750> jenda: you need to redo the terminal key binds or alter irssi's
[11:05] <wols> CrimsonKing: www-data probably
[11:05] <ladydoor> jenda: are you on gnome-terminal or something?
[11:05] <b_52Centos> do you know any game like quake3 under ubuntu ??
[11:06] <jozzeph> pffff
[11:06] <wols> CrimsonKing: and that user should not have a shell or a home directory afaik
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> wols: i don't need either ;)
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> how would I unmount "/dev/hdb1 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdb3" these are three ntfs partitions that I intend on formatting..
[11:06] <ladydoor> b_52Centos: do apt-cache search quake...i think you'll find something interesting...
[11:06] <wols> b_52Centos: Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is free
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> I am going to see if the www-data can ssh to localhost
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> that seems to be the best plan of attack right now
[11:06] <CrimsonKing> assuming i can pass a password to ssh on stdin
[11:06] <NemesisUK> b_52Centos, quake3 and 4 ut2004 loads of native linux games
[11:06] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: umount /dev/hdb1
[11:07] <Paddy_EIRE> great
[11:07] <jenda> OK, thx. solved.
[11:07] <jmitchj> having a prob getting a commercial DVD to play...can anyone help?
[11:07] <b_52Centos> wols,  do you know which miror i can find it ?
[11:07] <ladydoor> !repeat
[11:07] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:07] <msivanich> I just installed the phpmyadmin, what is the default username and password?
[11:07] <ladydoor> !codecs
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <runes> wols going to try the reboot
[11:07] <wols> b_52Centos: not part of ubuntu but just google it
[11:07] <ladydoor> jmitchj: ^^^
[11:07] <wols> runes: I will soon go to bed btw
[11:07] <b_52Centos> wols ok :d
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Would everyone recommend using "gksudo qtparted" for formatting drives
[11:08] <runes> ok got it
[11:08] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: no. I recommend the proper mkfs.* for thzat
[11:08] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: what do you mean
[11:08] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: man mkfs.ext3
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:09] <peace-keeper> hi my ubuntu is about half as fast as win xp, and i think my kernel (2.6.15-27-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT) may be wrong for my cpu (athlon 500). where can i get another kernel ?
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: is there no GUI way of doing this
[11:09] <Sivik> peace-keeper, thats probably not a kernel issue
[11:09] <Paddy_EIRE> wols: whay not qtparted
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> *why
[11:10] <peace-keeper> hmm any idea what it could be? everything is terribly slow
[11:10] <Sivik> peace-keeper, how much swap did you create?
[11:10] <peace-keeper> dont know, but i have 768mb ram
[11:10] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: because it's easier to give command-line instructions
[11:11] <Locke> anyone have an idea how to get a mdf/mds to convert to iso when mdf2iso says unknown format
[11:11] <CrimsonKing> failure, can't stdin a password to ssh
[11:11] <Locke> i am pretty sure the file is good
[11:11] <Sivik> peace-keeper, you should have made your swap about 1.5 - 2 times that of your ram
[11:11] <Locke> it successfully extracted from a rar i got from bittorrent
[11:11] <CrimsonKing> can i set up some form of a ssh tunnel though, if i ssh into my home-box
[11:11] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, you should be able to
[11:11] <peace-keeper> i didnt change sny swap setting during setup.. how can swap be an issue when i have a lot of ram ?
[11:12] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: except i'd need an account with no password on the remote box, since ssh can't prompt for a password
[11:12] <peace-keeper> oh i just found it.. i have 2gb swap
[11:12] <CrimsonKing> UGH
[11:12] <Sivik> ok, then thats not a problem
[11:12] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, you can createa a user via ssh using the adduser command and you don't have to have a password
[11:12] <Sivik> when you create that user
[11:13] <peace-keeper> even changing directory takes a few seconds.. starting firefox almost a minute.. it's unusable :(
[11:13] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: aye, thanks
[11:13] <CrimsonKing> was doing tha tnow
[11:13] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, yw
[11:13] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure what to tell you, how big of a hd is it?
[11:13] <msivanich> whats the default user name and password for /quit
[11:13] <peace-keeper> 60 gb
[11:13] <red_Marvin> Can anybody tell me why my _old_ laptop sets a resolution that isn't listed at all in xorg.conf and how to fix it?
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: I personally would rather use a gui, what would be good to use
[11:14] <peace-keeper> someone told me my kernel might be wrong
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, did you add anything weird
[11:14] <Justy-> Good night all!
[11:14] <peace-keeper> not that i know of :D
[11:14] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: gparted, if you *must* point-and-click rather than copy-and-paste
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure, you installed a i386 kernel right
[11:14] <Sivik> peace-keeper, check man /proc/version
[11:15] <peace-keeper> Linux version 2.6.15-27-k7 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:35:20 UTC 2006
[11:15] <Sivik> that shouldn't be an issue
[11:15] <peace-keeper> is k7 right for athlon 500 ?
[11:15] <peace-keeper> i know it's an old cpu, but still win xp is about twice as fast :(
[11:15] <ladydoor> Paddy_EIRE: or qtparted, i guess
[11:16] <Sivik> peace-keeper, not sure, i always just install the standard 2.6.15-27
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: probably BM DMA is not set. at least that's possibility
[11:16] <peace-keeper> is there a place where i can download another kernel to try that?
[11:16] <wols> Paddy_EIRE: also run "top" to see if something is eatme CPU
[11:16] <Sivik> peace-keeper, should be fine
[11:16] <CrimsonKing> ugh, i can just see this ending with me getting kicked off of my home box too
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ladydoor: i deleted the first partition in qtparted and I have no option to delete the others?? gonna try gparted now
[11:17] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, as long as your don't reboot or shutdown you should be fine
[11:17] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm not local on my home box either
[11:17] <peace-keeper> kay, then i have to stay with win xp :(
[11:17] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: i'm at school
[11:18] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, so, as long as you don't shut it down or reboot it, you can always relogin to that machine via ssh
[11:18] <exarkun> /etc/security/limits.conf seems to be ignored.  I tried changed "nofile" to 8192 with it, but my limit is still 1024.  What am I missing?
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> ha!
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> i'm in anyways
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> well my home machine
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> with empty password
[11:19] <Sivik> CrimsonKing, then there shouldn't be a problem
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> Sivik: the problem was I had to modify my sshd config to allow passwords, AND empty passwords
[11:19] <CrimsonKing> which is what scared me
[11:20] <Sivik> lol
[11:20] <Sivik> i bet
[11:20] <whurley> any one out there running Ubuntu server on dual opterons?
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> because THAT box has no monitor
[11:20] <Sivik> that might be important
[11:20] <Sivik> whurley, good choice on cpus
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> so if i screw up my ssh on THAT box i have to fix it blind
[11:20] <kalif> CrimsonKing: empty passphrases is a better way to go
[11:20] <whurley> Sivik: thanks, however I can't get the install cd to work
[11:20] <whurley> :)
[11:20] <CrimsonKing> kalif: this is just temporary as I try and ssh tunnel a port from a php script to my box so i can see from localhost.
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> GParted Rocks
[11:20] <Sivik> whurley, are you able to boot with it?
[11:21] <hahafaha> Does anyone have any experience using Dapper LTS on Dell Latitude C600?
[11:21] <kalif> ok
[11:21] <xprment626> does the ubuntu livecd support the bcm43xx series wireless cards by default?
[11:21] <Sivik> hahafaha, what are you trying to do?
[11:21] <Sivik> xprment626, no
[11:21] <Shadowpillar> brb
[11:21] <Sivik> xprment626, after you install it, you have to download the firmware
[11:21] <hahafaha> Sivik, I have already installed it on the computer.
[11:21] <CrimsonKing> what am i trying to do?
[11:21] <Sivik> hahafaha, ok, then whats the issue?
[11:21] <whurley> Sivik: yes, it boots to the install option screens but freezes when trying to boot the kernel. I'm looking for boot options that might result in success, btu haven't found anything
[11:21] <hahafaha> Sivik: it works fine but occasionally seems to overheat
[11:21] <xprment626> Sivik, I want a CD that I can just use whenever I need it (LiveCD) without having to install anything :-(
[11:22] <hahafaha> Sivik: I have heard that this is a common issue with the hardware. Is there a way to manually control the fan?
[11:22] <Sivik> xprment626, but you won't have wireless
[11:22] <xMorphix> xprment626: download one
[11:22] <xMorphix> sivik: not like it matters, all wirless downloads at 210 b/s :P
[11:22] <xMorphix> wireless*
[11:22] <wols> xprment626: no
[11:22] <Sivik> xMorphix, no their not
[11:22] <xMorphix> sivik: I know, lol
[11:22] <xprment626> I need wireless though ...
[11:22] <hahafaha> Sivik: (or in any other way control power management by hand, so that it does not overheat?
[11:23] <wols> xprment626: ndiswrapper
[11:23] <xMorphix> hahafaha: what is the question? fan control?
[11:23] <Sivik> hahafaha, are you using the stock fans?
[11:23] <xprment626> vols, yeah ,but then I need to create a custom livecd, etc.
[11:23] <Tom39Away> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/knot-3/edgy-alternate-i386.iso is 702M and I can't seem to burn it.  I get an error because it's larger than 700M.
[11:23] <CrimsonKing> anyone here an ssh tunnel wizzard?
[11:23] <Sivik> Tom39Away, are you burning as an iso imsage or a file
[11:23] <wols> Tom39Away: get a better burn program. use nero
[11:23] <zjohnson> how does one make a binary dpkg from a source dpkg?
[11:23] <hahafaha> xMorphix: Yes
[11:24] <Tom39Away> wols, I'm using Dapper's burner.
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: what do you mean?
[11:24] <xMorphix> hahafaha: What computer are you using?
[11:24] <Tom39Away> Sivik, I'm burning that ISO file to a CD.
[11:24] <Sivik> hahafaha, what fans are you using?
[11:24] <wols> zjohnson: there are no "source dpkgs". the program to use is dpkg-buildpackage
[11:24] <hahafaha> xMorphix: Dell Latitutde C600
[11:24] <Sivik> Tom39Away, you have to tell the problem to burn as a image and not as a file
[11:24] <zjohnson> wols: ok thanks..
[11:24] <wols> Tom39Away: look for overburn support
[11:24] <Sivik> hahafaha, the ones that came with the cpus or what?
[11:24] <mo^> whats the command to minimize all windows? (in xfce)
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: Yes
[11:24] <hahafaha> Sivik: The ones that are built into the compy
[11:24] <Tom39Away> wols, that's what I'm doing here.
[11:24] <habeeb> I'm getting a really cool problem :P I can see fglrx and direct rendering working alright, when running fglrxinfo and glxinfo as root, but they would give me errors as the normal user.
[11:25] <habeeb> Errors like these:
[11:25] <habeeb> libGL error: failed to open DRM: Operation not permitted
[11:25] <habeeb> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[11:25] <Sivik> hahafaha, you might want to try to get some better fans and see if that helps, i don't think its a control of the speed that you can control
[11:25] <Sivik> hahafaha, stock fans suck
[11:25] <Sivik> zjohnson, apt-get source filename
[11:25] <wols> Sivik: newer intel mbos can. some amd ones too
[11:25] <hahafaha> Sivik: OK, thanks.
[11:25] <whitedeth> oh god, someone please help me play MP3s through Rhytmbox? :(
[11:25] <wols> Sivik: eg. mne (AN7 Abit)
[11:26] <ladydoor> !codecs
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <Tom39Away> Sivik, how do I tell a problem to burn as an image?  I'm right clicking on the ISO file in Nautilis and selecting "Write to Disc".
[11:26] <Sivik> wols: i understand that
[11:26] <zjohnson> siv: awesome
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> Can anyone help me with a WPA problem I'm having? I can connect to a D-link router using WPA-PSK at home, but not a Belkin router
[11:26] <Sivik> Tom39Away, download k3b and tell it to burn an image, that just copies the actual file over
[11:26] <lcohen> good afternoon all, I have a KitchenSync-Opensync issue, I am syncing with a SyncML server, I setup everything as mest I could, I hit sync now and I get connected with my Evolution plugin, but the SyncML does not leave 'Ready' any thoughts?
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> If I turn WPA encryption off on the Belkin router, I can then connect
[11:26] <Bladesonfire> I'm using IPW2200 and networkmanager to connect
[11:26] <Tom39Away> But I don't want the ISO file on the disc, I want the uncompressed files.
[11:27] <lewix>  ive unplugged my headphones and I can't hear any sound on my speaker now
[11:27] <Sivik> Tom39Away, that what happens when you burn it as an image
[11:27] <lewix> i don't know what's going on
[11:27] <teenprogrammer> Hi
[11:27] <lcohen> Bladesonfire: I continue to have issues with WPA and Ubuntu, sometimes it may take 2 or 3 times to connect....
[11:27] <xMorphix> lewix: I am always lost
[11:27] <Tom39Away> So Dapper can't natively burn ISO files to discs?  I have to install additional software, this "k3b" you mention?
[11:27] <wols> Sivik: you do know that a latitude is a notebook? ever changed fans on those?
[11:27] <Sivik> xMorphix, lol
[11:27] <xMorphix> lewix: so whats the problem?
[11:27] <s_v_e_n> !codecs
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:27] <lewix> xMorphix, I don't know
[11:27] <Bladesonfire> lcohen, thanks, but I've never been able to connect to this router when encryption is on
[11:27] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: or bashburn...
[11:27] <Sivik> wols: then how is he running dual opterons on a laptop?
[11:28] <lewix> xMorphix, Im trying to listen to some music
[11:28] <Bladesonfire> Would you know if using ndiswrapper would help my situation?
[11:28] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: and it *can* do it natively--via the commandline
[11:28] <lewix> xMorphix, that's it
[11:28] <xMorphix> lewix: did you restart your computer?
[11:28] <lewix> do i have to ?
[11:28] <lcohen> I don't think so, if you have IPW2200, then you shouldn't need the wrapper
[11:28] <lewix> damnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[11:28] <xMorphix> ladydoor: when did you sneak in?
[11:28] <lewix> linux sucks somewhat
[11:28] <lcohen> linux and wpa are not the best of friends
[11:28] <Tom39Away> ladydoor, what program does Nautilis use on the Right Click --> Write to Disc option?
[11:28] <Sivik> lewix, then don't use it
[11:28] <PWill> lewix: nuh-uh
[11:28] <Bladesonfire> That's what I was thinking... I can't find anything on Google why I wouldn't be able to connect to this Belkin router
[11:28] <lcohen> does teh Belkin support WPA2
[11:28] <wols> Sivik: dual opterons on a dell? you are dreaming and hahahfa never said that. all he said latitude C600
[11:29] <lewix> Sivik, PWill : i said somewhat
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: then who said something about dual opterons
[11:29] <lewix> Sivik, PWill : its not the perfect operating system obviously
[11:29] <lcohen> I was reading somewhere the success rate is highewr with WPA2
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: i may have accentily written that to the wrong person
[11:29] <PWill> lewix: well, linux supports more hardware than any other kernel. i think you're mistaken
[11:29] <wols> Sivik: I dunno who did, he didn't and you berated him cause of his fans, which is a stupid thing to do
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> The only options in the router administration is just WPA-PSK and a WPA Radius server
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> I'll give it a go, though
[11:29] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: i don't know, i eschew the use of graphical programs whenever possible. sorry
[11:29] <xMorphix> no need for a OS war
[11:29] <Bladesonfire> Thanks for your help, lcohen
[11:29] <Sivik> wols: i didn't berate anyone
[11:29] <ladydoor> xMorphix: i never logged out, though i did leave--very tricky :-)
[11:29] <Tom39Away> ladydoor, thanks anyway
[11:29] <lewix> PWill, windows is better if we're talking about hardware
[11:30] <Sivik> wols: if it came accross that way, i'm sorry
[11:30] <ladydoor> Tom39Away: np...sorry i couldn't be of more help
[11:30] <xMorphix> ladydoor: :P
[11:30] <lcohen> no problem, sorry I can't give you more, it can take two or three times for knetworkmanager to connect to my WPA router
[11:30] <PWill> lewix: i hope that was sarcasm...
[11:30] <mwe> that's the worst crap I've heard in a while
[11:30] <xMorphix> PWill: lol
[11:30] <wols> PWill: he's right cause there is no hardware that is not supported by Windows... while there is under linux some
[11:31] <kbs> hi. how to add my native language to kubuntu? i can choose only between brititsh and american english
[11:31] <wols> !locales > kbs
[11:31] <xMorphix> kbs: what's your native language?
[11:31] <lupine_85> hehe
[11:31] <lupine_85> some hardware performs better under linux than windows; some vice-versa. It's not a big deal
[11:31] <lcohen> anyone have any idea with my KitchenSync/OpenSync issue?
[11:31] <kbs> wols - thanks
[11:31] <mwe> geez
[11:32] <PWill> wols: that's inaccurate. i've never had a printer that worked out-of-the box on windows
[11:32] <boabsta> does anyone know how i would go about making my fonts bigger - after the last update they have all gone really small - even at the login box
[11:33] <PWill> boabsta: in system > preference > fonts
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> okay!
[11:33] <PWill> you can change the DPI, size, all that jazz
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> ssh tunnel command is ready
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> tested on laptop/homebox
[11:33] <georgy> mal : je regarde
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> if i can create an ssh tunnel from a php script
[11:33] <CrimsonKing> i will be in
[11:34] <PWill> CrimsonKing: what are you trying to tunnel into? i just got here...
[11:34] <mwe> You can I think
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> PWill: don't ask.
[11:34] <PWill> heh
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> it starts with me being an idiot
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> and locking down my hosts.allow
[11:34] <PWill> haha!
[11:34] <PWill> nice move...
[11:34] <CrimsonKing> yea
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> didn't know ubuntu ran sshd through there, wasn't paying attention
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> anyways, i now have access to the box via a php script
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> and if i can set up an ssh tunnel from the php script to my home box on a nopassword account
[11:35] <CrimsonKing> i should be able to forward the ssh from the home box and ssh in as if it were localhost
[11:35] <undriedsea> Hey, does anyone know how to load the accraid driver?
[11:36] <undriedsea> I am trying to install on a dell power edge and need to use the obarod RAID
[11:36] <CrimsonKing> here goes balls
[11:37] <PWill> good luck
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> thanks
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> the only thing i need to do is auto-accept that known-hosts warning
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> asking me if it wants to add
[11:37] <CrimsonKing> i can't risk hanging the script
[11:37] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:37] <kannan> hello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance
[11:37] <PWill> yeah. if it doesn't work, have fun reinstalling!
[11:38] <Beawolfe> fairly new NOOB here to Ubuntu and have a few questions if possible that someone can help me with
[11:38] <PWill> !ask
[11:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:38] <Sh4d0x> ! ati
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <Crescendo> Is there any fix to the sound card being locked, as in XMMS stealing audio from Flash in Firefox?
[11:38] <kbs> i can`t find localeconf in Adept
[11:38] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:38] <Bladesonfire> No luck using WPA2 =/
[11:38] <Crescendo> Perhaps making sound playable on multiple devices.
[11:39] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: you using network manager?
[11:39] <Beawolfe> is it possible to run both Gnome and KDE in ubuntu and be able to switch between the 2?
[11:39] <PWill> Crescendo: try install alsa-oss from the archives
[11:39] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: the extra little program you get in the repos
[11:39] <lampshade> Beawolfe: yes absolutely
[11:40] <kannan> hello all, will the ubuntu-64amd-server-install iso run on IBM x226 series server ? Pl adive, thanks a lot in advance (sorry to repeat)
[11:40] <Bladesonfire> Yeah, I'm using networkmanager
[11:40] <undriedsea> Does anyone know how to load the aacraid driver during an ubuntu install?
[11:40] <PWill> Bladesonfire: what wireless chipset do you have?
[11:40] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: that's odd, it does wpa beautifully for me.
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> It works to connect to a WPA-encrypted D-Link router and a none-encrypted Belkin router, but won't connect to the Belkin router when WPA is enabled
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> IPW2200
[11:41] <lampshade> same here
[11:41] <jmitchj> is it possible that I can't play commercial DVD on X86-64 system?
[11:41] <lampshade> hmm
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> lampshade, I know, it's just this one router... don't know why it's having problems with it
[11:41] <PWill> Bladesonfire: i have the same chipset, and WPA/2 works great
[11:41] <Sivik> jmitchj, what program and what do you mean by commercial DVD?
[11:41] <ladydoor> Beawolfe: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop and you *should* be able to select KDE from the GDM
[11:41] <PWill> Bladesonfire: do you have both network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed?
[11:41] <Bladesonfire> Do you guys know if Belkin behaves differently with the PSK sharing?
[11:42] <jmitchj> regular store bought DVD, with gxine
[11:42] <Beawolfe> okay...next question is if I install par 2 and unrar are the strictly command line proggies or can they be used in the gui of either Gnome or KDE?
[11:42] <ladydoor> Beawolfe: which is what you boot to, most likely
[11:42] <Bladesonfire> PWill, yes, both are installed
[11:42] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: yeah I'm a ipw person too and it works great  (I'm on it right now)  I would suggest restarting the machine, restarting the router and making sure the password for WPA is super correct.
[11:42] <Sivik> jmitchj, what is the error you get if you run gxine from terminal
[11:42] <lampshade> Beawolfe: yes
[11:42] <PWill> Bladesonfire: have you reset things, just to be sure? (ie, router, computer)
[11:42] <Sivik> jmitchj, what disc is it
[11:43] <lampshade> Beawolfe: at any time you can reach a terminal by ctrl+alt+F# or by just opening up a terminal inside.  I Have gnome-terminal open right now
[11:43] <Crescendo> PWill - can I just sudo apt-get install also-foss?
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> To both: I have restarted both before (first the router, then my computer)
[11:43] <PWill> Crescendo: run "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> I've showed the password when typing it in, so that is also correct
[11:43] <PWill> when it is done, let me know, and I'll walk you through th next step
[11:43] <Bladesonfire> I just don't get it =/
[11:44] <jmitchj> LOR
[11:44] <Bladesonfire> A friend suggested using ndiswrapper on the ipw drivers... would that be able to work?
[11:44] <lampshade> no
[11:44] <lampshade> don't do that
[11:44] <PWill> Bladesonfire: are you sure the password on the router is correct? also, do you have MAC filtering on?
[11:44] <Beawolfe> if it is yes then how can I get it to work.............installed both and have d/led a few things and when I click on a par2 check file the system stutters and then nothing.....same thing with the unrar
[11:44] <Sivik> Bladesonfire, theres really no use for that since the kernel already handles that
[11:44] <jmitchj> i'm new to Linux...so not a lot of knowledge yet
[11:45] <jmitchj> i've been trying to run gxine from Applications
[11:45] <lampshade> I mean, the ipw drivers are good solid drivers that intel even helped make a little and ndiswrapper is like a hackish way/ last resort for drivers like that
[11:45] <jmitchj> it just shuts down
[11:45] <PWill> Bladesonfire: if you have MAC filtering on, turn it off. IPW2200/0 doesn't support it.
[11:45] <Bladesonfire> PWill: Yes... the Belkin config page allows you to see the passphrase, as well. MAC filtering is on, but I had tried turning that off and no change in status
[11:45] <zeeter> i'm trying to install wine in ubuntu amd64 kernel
[11:45] <zeeter> anyone know if this is possible?
[11:45] <PWill> try again, and restart the router and laptop
[11:46] <Sivik> zeeter, thats going to be extremely hard
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> PWill: I'll turn off MAC filtering, but on my D-Link, I turned it on and it connects fine
[11:46] <zeeter> Sivik  can you explain?
[11:46] <zeeter> i tried building from source
[11:46] <zeeter> i used instructions from winehq site
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> I think it's because now Ubuntu is using wext?
[11:46] <Sivik> zeeter, you have to install support for 32-bit on the 64 bit kernel in order to run wine, wine isn't compiled for 64-bit
[11:46] <lupine_85> zeeter: 32bit chroot probably best
[11:46] <Bladesonfire> But I'll reset the router now
[11:46] <lampshade> Bladesonfire: try looking in /var/log/messages too
[11:47] <PWill> Crescendo: were you able to install alsa-oss?
[11:47] <lampshade> see if there are any obvious big errors
[11:47] <zeeter> how can i do that?
[11:47] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  HELP!!!    Any ideas on a rescue plan?
[11:47] <Bladesonfire> Oh, I thought nm only had logs in syslog
[11:47] <Crescendo> PWill - I'm assisting a friend via messenger. >_<
[11:47] <zeeter> how do i install 32 bit support?
[11:47] <Bladesonfire> Thanks for the tip
[11:47] <zeeter> any websites you can point me to
[11:47] <zeeter> or docs
[11:47] <Crescendo> PWill, she emphasizes that she thinks it installed.  Still a no go on FF audio.
[11:47] <Sivik> zeeter: you would have to search google for it, i'm not real sure how to do it, also try ubuntuforums.org and wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:47] <peace-keeper> rescue plan: insert winxp cd intro drive, reboot, follow instructions on screen
[11:47] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: did you backup xorg.conf?
[11:47] <teenprogrammer> h
[11:47] <teenprogrammer> hi
[11:47] <georgy> Jeeves_Moss : try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:47] <lupine_85> zeeter: search the forum for 32 bit chroot
[11:47] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  no?
[11:47] <Sivik> teenprogrammer, hi
[11:48] <ACETACE> hello all
[11:48] <Bladesonfire> brb
[11:48] <zeeter> lupine_85  ok will do
[11:48] <zeeter> thanx
[11:48] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: what were you doing that caused X to fail?
[11:48] <ACETACE> anybody have a moment for a question?
[11:48] <Neo8750> is there a way to stop apt from removing the line that boots the gfx grub menu i have?
[11:48] <georgy> !ask
[11:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  I was installing Apache, MySQL, and PHP (making a LAMP system), then I booted into windows on a differen't partition.  Then when I got home, it give me a shell only
[11:49] <jazzrocker> how can i find the uid/username of the running apache process?
[11:49] <jazzrocker> programatically, without knowing before hand
[11:49] <PWill> Crescendo: you need to edit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change FIREFOX_DSP to "aoss"
[11:49] <Crescendo> PWill, thanks.
[11:49] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: try running "startx"
[11:49] <Jeeves_Moss> grergory:  thanks again.  I'll try that.
[11:49] <Neo8750> jazzrocker: ps ux | grep apache
[11:49] <Neo8750> \?
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> I recently burned a Ubuntu Install disk, and it locks up at "Starting the Kernel"
[11:50] <jazzrocker> hmmm
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> any Ideas?
[11:50] <Jeeves_Moss> PWill:  I tried that.  then I get "cannot connect to X server"
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, i guess that might work
[11:50] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, what video hardware?
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, was hoping for a slightly more reliable way
[11:50] <lampshade> MeGaQuArK: probably just a bad burn or download
[11:50] <PWill> Jeeves_Moss: did the error give any other useful info?
[11:50] <xMorphix> Megaqwerty: How did you burn it?
[11:50] <lampshade> it happens randomly on occassion
[11:50] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, that seems a bit awkward and error prone to try to parse the output of grep of ps
[11:50] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, in the xorg.conf, change the driver from whatever it is right now to vesa and then rerun startx
[11:50] <Megaqwerty> with k3b
[11:50] <Neo8750> jazzrocker: ????
[11:51] <spdf> Jeeves_Moss, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well, or grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:51] <Jeeves_Moss> Sivik:  NVidea 5700Go I think?  it's a lappy.  and I wasen't playing with the video stuff at all this month.  Or I don't rember doing it.
[11:51] <CarNagE__> I just found a howto that recommends turning of alsa support in the kernel
[11:51] <colin1> exit
[11:51] <CarNagE__> How do I do this with Ubuntu Dapper?
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> So it is just a bad cd?
[11:51] <jazzrocker> Neo8750, i need to figure it out programatically
[11:51] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, go into the xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa to get into the x and then fix it from there
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> do you have the hash?
[11:51] <Megaqwerty> (MD5)
[11:52] <Jeeves_Moss> sivik:  ok, thanks.  I'm off to the wide partition of Linux now!!  I hate M$, so it'll be refreshing.  Thanks again
[11:52] <Sivik> Jeeves_Moss, yw
[11:52] <Neo8750> Megaqwerty: no but if you find any i want a a ball about the size of my fist
[11:52] <JosefK_> anyone else seen the scaling governor randomly being reset?
[11:52] <Megaqwerty> wait, what?
[11:53] <Neo8750> nevermind =8-)
[11:53] <Megaqwerty> oh
[11:53] <PWill> lol
[11:53] <PWill> kbye. calculus homework :( back later
[11:53] <ACETACE> @_@ ritee~~~ thanks at first... i'm trying to compile os161 and sys161 on my ubuntu system locally for one of my programming course (about operating systems).... when i compile os161-gcc it gave me a error something has to do with the file [read-rtl.o]  and called quits... i use gcc4.0.3 any idea what could have went wrong?
[11:53] <ruzgar> is there one icon directory or more?
[11:53] <Megaqwerty> alright, nevermind, I'll burn a new CD when I get home
[11:53] <ruzgar> /usr/share/icons
[11:54] <ruzgar> is there else
[11:54] <PWill|hw> ruzgar: there is /usr/share/pixmaps
[11:54] <PWill|hw> also, ~.icons/
[11:54] <ladydoor> ruzgar: i think there's ~/.icons, which keeps recreating itself every time i delete it, personally...
[11:55] <ACETACE> am i allowed to ask this here @_@? my problem is kinda.... specific and not really os related...
[11:56] <spdf> ACETACE, You're probably missing a build dependency
[11:56] <ruzgar> there is a problem with icons
[11:56] <linopil> !ask
[11:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:56] <ruzgar> in human icon theme, the symbol link icon is tango's icon
[11:57] <ACETACE> o >_< thanks spdf... but what does that mean... and what does that implies? o dang i asked another question >_<
[11:57] <Bladesonfire> Still no luck on connecting to the Belkin router with WPA =/
[11:57] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: does it work with WEP?
[11:58] <ladydoor> does anybody know where X stores its info about what's been highlighted (for paste purposes)?
[11:58] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: I have not tried WEP, but unencrypted works
[11:58] <Dr_willis>  ladydoor  in memory, you could use a program like glipper, or klipper to keep a paste-buffer history
[11:59] <mick> has anyone had anyluck configuring a logitech G7? i am following this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125752&referrerid=107974 and i get an error about evdev not being found or not being valid or something... can someone help me?
[11:59] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: It's hard to test since other people are connected to this router right now (it's a work router)
[11:59] <ruzgar> !glipper
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glipper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <ruzgar> glipper is good as klipper?
[11:59] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: not quite what i'm looking for, but thanks. i was hoping for a way to integrate gnu screen's cut-buffer with X's highlight-buffer, so that i would never need to use the mouse to highlight & copy/paste again
[11:59] <ruzgar> or that full of bugs ?
[11:59] <chillmod1> ntesting 1 2 1 3
[12:00] <JavaDeveloper> how can I watch VCD in ubuntu? I installed easyubuntu and installed all codecs from there already but it still can't play
[12:00] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: ah. that sucks. i don't really have any more advice, since it works flawlessly for me...
[12:00] <ladydoor> Dr_willis: though actually, i don't need to at this point, as i've got emacs's integrated, so since emacs is in screen i have a backdoor. muahaha...
[12:00] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: Thanks for your help anyway
[12:00] <PWill|hw> Bladesonfire: you COULD try ndiswrapper
[12:00] <Bladesonfire> I think it's just a problem with the router's WPA implementation, but I don't see how it could be that different
[12:01] <Bladesonfire> PWill|hw: probably my only hope now