[07:51] <sajan> its written like     CPU(s):- 89%
[07:51] <jalexandru> somsip: the file was on my desktop
[07:51] <jalexandru> somsip: should I try with one in my home folder?
[07:52] <auronandace> !screenshot | sajan
[07:52] <somsip> jalexandru: or you can ls -la Desktop and post that, then edit the file you want
[07:54] <jalexandru> http://pastebin.com/F81ptnu3 the file is 09.28Test.odt
[07:55] <sajan_> http://imagebin.org/230087
[07:55] <sajan_> image of cpu usage
[07:56] <auronandace> sajan: dropbox is the culprit there
[07:56] <somsip> jalexandru: so you open that in Writer, and the Save item is ghosted on the File menu?
[07:56] <cousteau> damn, now I want to know what was going on for the ban...
[07:57] <jalexandru> somsip: I've opened Writer and Save item with enabled "Save" option after that the "Save" is ghosted and un-clickble
[07:57] <sajan_> http://imagebin.org/230087
[07:58] <cousteau> Is manually changing /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth a good idea?
[07:58] <auronandace> sajan_: dropbox is using your cpu
[07:58] <cousteau> I want the text.plymouth theme rather than the default.plymouth one
[07:58] <sajan> http://imagebin.org/230087
[07:58] <sajan> here is screenshot
[07:58] <ikonia> sajan: dropbox is using your cpu
 sajan_: dropbox is using your cpu
[07:58] <ikonia> sajan: dropbox is using your cpu
[07:58] <auronandace> sajan: dropbox is using your cpu
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:59] <sajan> thanks..........how to stop it
[07:59] <ikonia> sajan: reboot
[07:59] <ikonia> sajan: then don't start dropbox
[07:59] <LorSamPau_w> kill it, kill it with fire
[07:59]  * cousteau would killall
[07:59] <AlphaNoob> Lol
[07:59] <sajan> how to kill apps in ubuntu
[07:59] <cousteau> sajan, maybe there's something like `sudo stop dropbox`, but I'm not sure
[07:59] <ikonia> sajan: there is the kill command, however I'd suggest actually trying to stop this properly
[07:59] <cousteau> (that's if dropbox is a service)
[07:59] <sajan> ok and can u tell me what was my cpu usage
[08:00] <somsip> jalexandru: and if you make another change to the doc, is the icon available again?
[08:00] <enyc> sajan: 'top' or equivalent program can show you
[08:00] <sajan> thanks @enyc
[08:00] <auronandace> enyc: he doesn't understand the output
[08:00] <RUCKER222> sajan: killall dropbox
[08:00] <sajan> is there and app
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> oO
[08:00] <ikonia> sajan: please stop
[08:00] <ikonia> sajan: fix drop box
[08:00] <ikonia> sajan: then your machine will work
[08:01] <cousteau> Apparently dropbox is not a service...  in that case I would do   killall dropbox
[08:01] <auronandace> sajan: listen to ikonia
[08:01] <jalexandru> somsip: yes it is .... lol ... how can I missed this .... thanks a lot for your time ..... and sorry for this ..
[08:01] <sajan> fix dropbox means        @ ikonia
[08:01] <cousteau> (killall won't totally kill dropbox, just tell it to stop)
[08:01] <somsip> jalexandru: LOL - sorry about the ps aux thing. Totally sidetracked by that.
[08:01] <ikonia> sajan: I would suggest rebooting your machine. re-run "top" and see if drop box is at the top again
[08:01] <ikonia> sajan: that would be the first thing to try
[08:01] <jalexandru> somsip: very good job..
[08:01] <somsip> jalexandru: though I think you should take a break now and bang your head on the desk repeatedly
[08:02] <cousteau> the dramatic solution would be   killall -KILL dropbox   but that would probably terminate it incorrectly, so I DO NOT recommend it
[08:02] <sajan> okk thanks..........i will be back after rebooting
[08:02] <jalexandru> somsip: already started...
[08:02] <somsip> jalexandru: :)
[08:02] <cousteau> `man dropbox` might have been a good idea too
[08:02] <cousteau> !man dropbox
[08:02] <ikonia> cousteau: why ?
[08:03] <cousteau> maybe it has a "stop" option or something
[08:03] <cousteau> ubottu, man dropbox
[08:03] <ikonia> cousteau: I don't want it stopped at this time, I'd like his machine rebooted so it's got a clean plate to actually troubleshoot it if it is a genuine problem
[08:03] <cousteau> bot!  don't ignore me!
[08:03] <cousteau> ikonia, oh ok
[08:03] <ikonia> cousteau: ubottu doesn't print man pages
[08:03] <auronandace> !brain | cousteau
[08:04] <atlef> !upgrade
[08:04] <cousteau> is there a bot that prints man pages?  I've seen that in quite a few bots...
[08:05] <cousteau> or is ubottu the only infobot here?
[08:05] <ikonia> cousteau: not in this channel, ubottu is the only info bot
[08:05] <Seveas> cousteau, there's no such bot in here
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> cousteau:there a nice thing showing man pages: your terminal :p
[08:05] <auronandace> cousteau: printing a manpage inside a channel would be flooding
[08:06] <cousteau> auronandace, of course, not ALL the manpage is printed...  only the URL, and sometimes the first parts of it
[08:06] <r00t_> Can anyone give advice on what might be slowing my copmuter down? 2ghz 750?ishmb ram yet this is running slower then XP. its a wubi install which i know isnt optimal but.. anywho somone told me it might be my graphics chipset:  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01
[08:06] <ikonia> look, it doesn't matter, there is no man bot - forget about it
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> r00t_:can you tell us what exactly goes 'slow'
[08:07] <cousteau> yes, ok, I get it
[08:07] <tsimpson> cousteau: there is http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ if you want online man pages
[08:07] <cousteau> tsimpson, yes, I'm looking at that right now
[08:08] <cousteau> (and yes, there's a `dropbox stop`...  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/dropbox.1.html  although ikonia has already made clear that wasn't what was looking for)
[08:09] <AlphaNoob> Jesus Christ change your name before asking a question like "why is my PC slow"
[08:09] <rp2> hello ... I just found out the package vcg disappeared after hardy ... how do I best find out why?
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> !info vcg | rp2
[08:09] <r00t_> lotuspsychje, everything. switching between 2 tabs in firefox,the time span it takes the "start" menu to apear after clicking,switching windows. everything. and its a fresh install with only xchat and restricted extras added.
[08:10] <sajan> http://imagebin.org/230089
[08:10] <rp2> lotuspsychje: ?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> r00t_:32 bit? precise 12.04.1?
[08:10] <cousteau> does "750?ishmb" mean "around 750 MB"?
[08:10] <sajan> http://imagebin.org/230089                 @ikonia
[08:10] <cousteau> cause it looks more like a regex than an actual word...
[08:10] <sajan> after reboot screenshot
[08:10] <auronandace> sajan: better, notice how idle it is?
[08:11] <sajan> yeah.........its good now............how to unistall dropbox
[08:11] <16SAAANJ7> has anyone tried using quantal from virtualbox? For me, compiz crashes everytime ubuntu boots up.
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | r00t_
[08:11] <ikonia> sajan: open the package manager, search dropbox, click uninstall/remove
[08:11] <rp2> r00t_: my guess would be that you need more memory ... what does 'top' say?
[08:12] <cousteau> r00t_, for "what is slowing down my computer" I usually go to System Monitor > Resources
[08:12] <sajan> thanks........other question......how can i make this system work faster??????????
[08:12] <auronandace> !12.10 | 16SAAANJ7
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> rp2: you on precise?
[08:12] <ikonia> sajan: don't worry about that - just try using it now and see how you get on
[08:12] <rp2> lotus: yes
[08:12] <AlphaNoob> 512 ram I would expect only a terminal interface
[08:12] <cousteau> check that CPU(s) are not at 100%, memory is not at 100% either, and swap is not being used
[08:12] <r00t_> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[08:12] <sajan> but i have 2 gb ram
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> rp2:the bot says the package is not supported anymore
[08:13] <ikonia> sajan: yes, just try using it for a while, see how you get on
[08:13] <AlphaNoob> I would not install GUI desktop on 512
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> rp2:whats full name of that package?
[08:13] <sajan> how to go to package install
[08:13] <ikonia> sajan: you need to read https://help.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <rp2> lotuspsychje: well, then the bot and I agree. my question is: how do I best find out why?
[08:13] <cousteau> Xubuntu or Lubuntu might be better suited for 512 MB RAM
[08:13] <ikonia> sajan: that will give you the basic information about how to use your desktop
[08:14] <rp2> lotuspsychje: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/vcg
[08:14] <cousteau> (XFCE and LXDE can be installed on Ubuntu, so there's no need to re-install)
[08:14] <sajan> thanks ikonia.......i appericiate your help........i will take some help then come back
[08:14] <ikonia> sajan: don't rush, read the URL and play, see how you get on. Any specific questions, just ask
[08:14] <AlphaNoob> Puppy Linux or xfce..... but 512?  I don't think raspberry pi has that little
[08:15] <cousteau> So about my plymouth question...  how do I change my logo plymouth theme with the text one?   sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth   only shows the graphic ones, not the text ones
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> r00t_:did you install graphics driver correclty?
[08:16] <atriq> I've got an odd little problem
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> rp2:not sure 'why' mate, cant find the package for precise on google
[08:16]  * cousteau tries   sudo update-alternatives --config text.plymout
[08:16] <atriq> Moving my mouse to the left doesn't flick open the launcher
[08:16] <atriq> It used to, and I don't think I've forgotten the trick
[08:17] <atriq> Also, it looks like my mouse thinks there's more screen than my screen does?
[08:17] <AlphaNoob> There's or answer atriq
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> rp2:maybe theres already a better package for that purpose, did you search software centre?
[08:18] <AlphaNoob> U answered urself .  The dash is off the screen.
[08:18] <atriq> Only a couple of pixels
[08:18] <atriq> And when I use the flag button it appears fine
[08:19] <r00t_> Just checked top and it apears as if switching or moving windows maxes out my cpu. any fix for this?
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> r00t_:can you logout and login to unity2d to see if cpu load changes?
[08:20] <r00t_> lotuspsychje,  i have a unmodded setup besides restricted-extras and xchat so i dont know. i can try unity2d. how do i switch to unity2d?
[08:20] <r00t_> !unity2d'
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> rp2:you could try programming channel
[08:20] <atriq> AlphaNoob, so yeah, that's not the problem
[08:20] <rp2> lotuspsychje: well I have a hunch, it seems to be a graphviz alternative from the stone age
[08:20] <r00t_> !unity2d
[08:21] <rp2> it uses a different layout algorithm ... I'd like to try it
[08:21] <AlphaNoob> OK well I don't use shitty unity anyway
[08:21] <rp2> which programming channel?
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> r00t_:logout, type your login name and choose unity2d on the gear icon
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> rp2: ##programming
[08:24] <AlphaNoob> Does anyone here use shitty Unity so they can help atriq?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !polite | AlphaNoob
[08:24] <Seveas> AlphaNoob, there's no need for such language.
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !info doxygen > lotuspsychje
[08:25] <Seveas> lotuspsychje, you can also /msg ubottu info doxygen :)
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: tnx buts its relevant for rp2 aswell, thats why
[08:26] <ScottHarrison> How do I list ubottu tips?
[08:26] <ScottHarrison> !info
[08:26] <somsip> !brain | ScottHarrison
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:26] <MsTeshi> Hi
[08:27] <sajan> @ikonia.......i read the guide now almost familier with the gui of ubuntu and normal use............but i still find it slow then windows7
[08:27] <ikonia> sajan: ok, so you may not have your graphics card configured correctly
[08:28] <ikonia> sajan: poor display setup can often make it "seem" slow, when it's actually running quick
[08:28] <sajan> i dont have graphics card......its inbuit graphics of intel
[08:28] <sajan> do i need that driver
[08:29] <ikonia> sajan: ok, you do have a graphics card, it's the intel one
[08:29] <ikonia> sajan: intel cards are normally configured fine by default
[08:29] <sajan> yaaaa..........the one that comes inbuilt
[08:29] <sajan> actually its graphics memory written when i looked at bios settings
[08:29] <AlphaNoob> I think if he just does a check for driver updates that will tell him what he needs to know
[08:30] <ikonia> AlphaNoob: there is no "intel driver" as a restricted driver, so it won't "check for an update"
[08:30] <AlphaNoob> Oh
[08:30] <ikonia> sajan: what makes it seem slow to you, opening windows for example, or doing certain things
[08:31] <sajan> yaa opening windows.........and switchin tasks
[08:32] <AlphaNoob> He needs a new p12 chip imo
[08:32] <ikonia> AlphaNoob: stop
[08:32] <AlphaNoob> OK ok
[08:32] <ikonia> AlphaNoob: you're just making things up. If you can't help properly and continue to mess around you'll not be welcome in the channel, clear ?
[08:33] <ikonia> sajan: that does sound visual rather than actual performance related.
[08:33] <ikonia> sajan: one moment while I just work out a test
[08:33] <sajan> okkk.......thanks
[08:33] <AlphaNoob> It was just one joke, don't get bent out of shape
[08:34] <ikonia> AlphaNoob: its not funny
[08:34] <AlphaNoob> Not to you perhaps
[08:34] <ikonia> AlphaNoob: its not funny
[08:34] <sajan> i really want to learn linux by my heart..............but my poor base of c language is very poor
[08:35] <ikonia> sajan: you don't need to know C
[08:35] <AlphaNoob> Why are u even talking to me?  You have more important business at hand.
[08:35] <sajan> can u tell me easy way to learn ubuntu.......as far as programming side
[08:36] <sajan> any website or guide???
[08:36] <AlphaNoob> Learn bash or python
[08:36] <JamezQ> There is a guide to ubuntu sajan yes
[08:37] <JamezQ> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[08:37] <sajan> which will help from bash or paython for me to work on android or java
[08:37] <pmorris> Can modifying iptables affect established connections?
[08:37] <sajan> @jamezq thanks for link
[08:38] <AlphaNoob> Ummmm.... well python is more of a complete programming language
[08:38] <JamezQ> If you are looking for learning programming, like working on on android. I suggest looking at android tutorials.
[08:38] <JamezQ> They use eclipse generally, which runs on linux
[08:39] <Calinou_> hi, i installed lubuntu 12.04, I'm using an nvidia 570gtx, no proprietary drivers are available...
[08:39] <Calinou_> currently doing system updates -- will they appear once I reboot?
[08:39] <sajan> ok my main aim is..........i am given a project to make a website based on JAVA language.........so i wanted to do in different way then windows so i preffered ubuntu.........so can i make that website on java in ubuntu
[08:40] <JamezQ> Yes, sajan, you can. Java runs on linux in everyway it runs on windows. (in some ways better)
[08:40] <AlphaNoob> Sajan....you're confusing java and javascript
[08:40] <timfrost> pmorris: it is possible (eg an explicit block of inbound ssh could prevent traffic on a pre-existing ssh session)
[08:40] <sajan> ya.........javascript.........
[08:40] <sajan> make a website using java servlet
[08:40] <JamezQ> No no
[08:40] <JamezQ> that *is* java
[08:41] <JamezQ> no javascript
[08:41] <JamezQ> Anyway, java servlets run on ubuntu, yea, but this is more of a programming question
[08:41] <AlphaNoob> Right OK my bad
[08:41] <Oins> Sajan: sure take a look at the IDE Eclipse
[08:41] <xcervo> hello guys, can i install android as guest in ubuntu virtualbox?
[08:42] <sajan> i have zero knowledge and i and started from ground level......and i know i will learn mostly all things i want here
[08:42] <AlphaNoob> Didn't know websites used java servlets anymore
[08:42] <JamezQ> AlphaNoob: They don't, but it's still taught in schools.
[08:42] <sajan> is there any basic requirement before i install IDE ECLIPSE
[08:43] <JamezQ> sajan: No, just install Eclipse, netbeans, whatever you are used to using. Ideally from the software center
[08:43] <atlef> xcervo, yes
[08:43] <JamezQ> If you have any questions after that, ask
[08:43] <sajan> dont i need jre(java)
[08:43] <Oins> Sajan: and try some java based frameworks like vaadin
[08:44] <xcervo> atlef thanks
[08:44] <AlphaNoob> I really think java for the web is dead
[08:44] <JamezQ> sajan: If you are just startign out and this is *not* for a class, I don't reccomend using java servlets that much.
[08:44] <AlphaNoob> And only legacy websites use it
[08:45] <sajan> ya i m given project from collage
[08:45] <JamezQ> AlphaNoob: Well, servlets maybe, not servers themselves.
[08:45] <JamezQ> Okay, will if it's a project from college that makes sense, again, just download your prefered IDE and use as normal.
[08:46] <patie> hi, im trying install sensiolabs-desktop (http://desktop.sensiolabs.org/linux-how-to) on ubuntu but i give error -  Unable to load library icui18n "Cannot load library icui18n: (libicui18n.so.48: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64)"  QSslSocket: cannot call unresolved function d2i_X509
[08:46] <sajan> what should i search for on software centre
[08:46] <JamezQ> sajan: "eclipse"
[08:46] <sajan> ok thanks
[08:46] <Calinou_> hi, i installed lubuntu 12.04, I'm using an nvidia 570gtx, no proprietary drivers are available...
[08:47] <timfrost> patie: is your system 32-bit or 64-bit (the error implies a 64-bit package and a 32-bit system)?
[08:47] <polarbear> hi
[08:47] <sajan> ok so unlike windows i dont need to install the java before i install netbeans or eclipse
[08:47] <patie> timfrost: 64bit ubuntu 11
[08:47] <atlef> xcervo, one good guide for what you are asking for http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/how-to-run-android-4-0-ics-on-windows-mac-linux-using-virtualbox/
[08:48] <polarbear> i like ubuntu 12
[08:48] <JamezQ> sajan: No, you still need to install java, although installing eclipse might pull that in for you
[08:48] <sajan> okkk.....so i should install eclipse without worrying about java
[08:48] <polarbear> use SSD
[08:48] <polarbear> very fast
[08:49] <polarbear> i am using the SSD
[08:49] <geirha> sajan: after installing eclipse, search for openjdk-6-jdk and/or openjdk-7-jdk in the software center. If either of those are installed  ... you have the necessary packages to build and run java programs
[08:49] <JamezQ> sajan: Meh, I would install java first, do you know how to install things via the terminal?
[08:49] <polarbear> alias
[08:49] <sajan> no i dont know.......can  tell me that
[08:50] <JamezQ> Actually, geirha is right, just search that in the software center
[08:50] <sajan> okk thanks i will search
[08:50] <JamezQ> search : openjdk-7-jdk
[08:50] <JamezQ> or 6, which your class likely uses
[08:50] <patie> timfrost: 64bit, u know how can i fix this problem ?
[08:51] <sajan> is java 6 is ggod or 7
[08:51] <geirha> sajan: which version to settle on is your job to find out. Perhaps ask for advice in a java channel
[08:52] <sajan> okk thanks
[08:52] <timfrost> patie: ah. wrong direction. If the package is 32-bit, you need the 32-bit libraries.  There is a package in 64-bit 11.10 that installs most 32-bit libraries
[08:52] <JamezQ> If you are in a college class, check your intruction sheet for the class.
[08:53] <Calinou_> i installed lubuntu 12.04, I'm using an nvidia 570gtx, no proprietary drivers are available...
[08:53] <timfrost> patie: I am running 12.04, and can't remember the name of the 11.10 meta-package
[08:53] <geirha> patie, timfrost: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[08:53] <sajan> we are not give anything rather then the title to make website
[08:53] <patie> geirha: try, thanks
[08:53] <sajan> i am give to make a website on GLASS COMPLANY
[08:53] <timfrost> geirha: thanks. that is the pacvkage that patie needs
[08:54] <JamezQ> sajan: this is a college class?
[08:54] <sajan> yaaa its a project from my collage
[08:55] <JamezQ> sajan: Well, if they don't give you any info, it's up to you to find out what you need to use, my guess is java version 6.
[08:56] <sajan> ok installing eclipse now and then will install version 6
[08:58] <hardcampa> sajan if you insist on using eclipse I would install a version which is configured for java support from the beginning. The top one from this list for example: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[08:59] <waheed> hey, I used before a media converter at ubuntu but I can't remember its name.. it was with a simple GUI and almost convert from/to all multimedia formats.. and opens a terminal with the progress upon running convertion.. can any one remind me what its name??
[08:59] <sajan> thanks @hardcampa
[09:00] <atlef> waheed, could it be WinFF?
[09:00] <patie> geirha: timfrost works ok thanks
[09:01] <jalexandru> if I want to copy a file from computerA to computerB I go to computerB and use scp ... is there a command that I could use from computerA ??/
[09:02] <somsip> scp {login} B.address:/path/file localpath/
[09:02] <JamezQ> jalexandru: scp can actually work both ways
[09:02] <jalexandru> just thought at that, thanks JamezQ
[09:03] <JamezQ> well, thank somsip too, I just said what he posted.
[09:03] <somsip> JamezQ: I missed the tag - no biggie
[09:03] <adi14> blow
[09:04] <waheed> altef : don't think so.. it was a different name.. I think with a "G" or something
[09:07] <sajan> is there a way to make ubuntu work faster by using hard disk space
[09:07] <waheed> well, I need a good multimedia converter that converts all fomrats
[09:07] <JamezQ> sajan: Can you exaplin what you mean?
[09:08] <sajan> i have 2 gb of ram in my laptop.......so can i utilise my hard drive for ubuntu to work more faster
[09:09] <Calinou_> sajan: swap is very slow
[09:09] <sajan> @calinou .........means
[09:09] <JamezQ> Well, using hard drive more is genearlly a bad idea...
[09:09] <randomDude> sajan: no just get more ram
[09:10] <randomDude> sajan: or swap the hardrive for a ssd drive
[09:10] <JamezQ> sajan: Generally to speed up a computer, you utilise the harddrive *less*
[09:10] <Calinou_> randomDude: he is on a laptop
[09:10] <randomDude> Calinou_: your point is ?
[09:10] <sajan> @randomdude can u tell me how to do that swap
[09:10] <JamezQ> randomDude: His point is that changing ram ain't so easy on a laptop
[09:11] <randomDude> sajan: swap won't make your machine faster.
[09:11] <belgianguy> is there a place where one can suggest minor improvements ?
[09:11] <belgianguy> eg, not a bug report
[09:11] <Calinou_> randomDude: try to put RAM on a laptop
[09:11] <randomDude> JamezQ: generally not the case unless you're using a recent macbook pro
[09:11] <JamezQ> belgianguy: Yes, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[09:11] <sajan> okk only thing is i need more ram
[09:11] <randomDude> Calinou_:  no problems i upgraded all my laptops ram...
[09:11] <belgianguy> thanks JamezQ
[09:12] <Calinou_> randomDude: and you are not supposed to do that
[09:12] <randomDude> Calinou_: oh it's agains the law is it?
[09:12] <Calinou_> *seems legit*
[09:12] <JamezQ> sajan: Well, if the problem is ubuntu is running too slow on an old machine, it's an option to try using xubuntu, or something light like that.
[09:13] <sajan> will a dual core proccessor will be able to handle to more ram then 2 gb
[09:13] <JamezQ> sajan: The number of cores has nothing to do with how much ram
[09:13] <randomDude> sajan: it's really up to the motherboard
[09:13] <Calinou_> lubuntu > xubuntu by far, in terms of weight
[09:13] <Calinou_> randomDude: go back to your ROMs, thank you
[09:13] <JamezQ> Calinou_: That's correct, but having tried both, lubuntu suffers from less polish
[09:13] <randomDude> Calinou_: my what now?
[09:14] <sajan> okk thanks...............is xubuntu good as far as graphics are concerned
[09:14] <JamezQ> sajan: It's generally considered not as pretty as ubuntu, but it looks pretty good to me, I always suggest trying the live cd before installing
[09:14] <JamezQ> sajan: And make sure you like it
[09:15] <sajan> well my cd drive in my laptop is  damaged.......
[09:15] <belgianguy> sajan: LiveUSB ;)
[09:15] <JamezQ> sajan: Well, how did you install ubuntu in the first place? A usb?
[09:16] <sajan> no..........web installed
[09:16] <atlef> sajan, if you already have ubuntu, just install xubuntu-desktop
[09:16] <ikonia> sajan: apologies for being a while, I had to attend a phone conference, are you still struggling with performance ?
[09:16] <ScottHarrison> is there anyway I can hide my IP to the public on IRC?
[09:16] <ikonia> ScottHarrison: you need a cloak, the guys in #freenode can help
[09:16] <sajan> yaaa but less then before...........removing dropbox is a big improvement
[09:17] <ScottHarrison> ikonia, thanks :)
[09:17] <belgianguy> would it be any way possible to integrate some sort of free/OSS cloud support in the screenshot widget?
[09:17] <oscailt> ScottHarrison: Yes. Ask in #freenode for a cloak]
[09:17] <belgianguy> like 'save to web'
[09:17] <turtle_> Hey
[09:17] <JamezQ> belgianguy: Yes it would be, there are actually screenshot applications for this already.
[09:17] <oscailt> ScottHarrison: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
[09:17] <belgianguy> ah, okay JamezQ, that was my suggestion :p
[09:18] <JamezQ> belgianguy: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/screencloud-lets-you-take-share-ubuntu-screenshots-quickly
[09:18] <JamezQ> belgianguy: Check it out, it's called "screencloud"
[09:18] <brontosaurusrex> what would be an app that would batch burnin exif date into bunch of jpegs?
[09:18] <JamezQ> belgianguy: But that's a good suggestion, keep em up :)
[09:19] <sajan> @ikonia..........which is default directory in TERMINAL when i start it
[09:19] <ikonia> sajan: your home directory normally
[09:19] <belgianguy> sajan: type 'pwd' without the ''
[09:20] <JamezQ> sajan: You start in your /home/<username> directory
[09:20] <belgianguy> and it'll print where it is at that moment
[09:20] <write> hello everybody, can anyone help me with my sound problem? ive installed lubuntu, but there is no sound icon in bar, the sound doesnt work. Ive accesed alsamixer, unmuted everything, set to maximum, still nothing
[09:20] <belgianguy> pwd = Print Working Directory
[09:20] <sajan> got it thanks
[09:21] <turtle_> write: speakers just connected via 3.5mm jack?
[09:21] <oscailt> write: Try opening pavucontrol
[09:21] <write> i got a an Asus 1015bx netbook :-s so no speakers
[09:21] <nibbler_> brontosaurusrex, exiv2 - EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation tool
[09:21] <write> pavucontrol is currently not installed oscailt
[09:22] <JamezQ> write: Can you get ethernet? As you may have to install some packages to help get it to work, it would be uesful to have ready.
[09:23] <write> JamezQ: ethernet? im on wireless connection
[09:23] <JamezQ> write: Oh, sorry, I mixed up sound working with wireless not working.
[09:24] <JamezQ> write: :p
[09:24] <JamezQ> write: my mistake.
[09:24] <write> :) yeah, soundn doesnt work .. but in alsamixer i see the audio card, volumes are up etc, still no sound icon
[09:25] <oscailt> write: Hmm... I'd say install it, but I'm not 100% sure as I don't actually use Ubuntu so I'm not sure of it's make up.
[09:26] <turtle_> oscailt, i just installed it fine
[09:26] <JamezQ> oscailt: I can't see it hurting, honestly, it's not a meta-package so it should be easy to remove just in case.
[09:26] <write> oscailt: i understand :-s ... on previous ubuntu it worked oke, but on Lubuntu, it started with no sound
[09:26] <turtle_> must have been in a default repo as well
[09:28] <waheed> I need a program to run .arf file ??
[09:29] <ikonia> waheed: what type of file/data is that
[09:29] <JamezQ> it is webex ikonia
[09:29] <waheed> it should be a multimedia..
[09:29] <oscailt> ikonia: WebEx Player
[09:29] <ikonia> oscailt: ah, thank you
[09:30] <oscailt> JamezQ: You beat me to it :(
[09:30] <oscailt> :p
[09:30] <ikonia> isn't webex a web browser /plugin based application,
[09:30] <waheed> what is webex ??
[09:30] <waheed> :)
[09:30] <ikonia> waheed: why do you need to open it if you don't know what it is ?
[09:31] <waheed> all I know it is a record.. I need to check it..
[09:31] <oscailt> Sorry about that ikonia I thought it was you asking not waheed. My bad.
[09:31] <waheed> so what is WebEx, plz ?
[09:31] <redwarriors25> where i can find the flash player folder where i install
[09:31] <ikonia> waheed: web based collaberation
[09:33] <redwarriors25> where i can find the flash player folder where i install
[09:34] <oscailt> redwarriors25: It's in /lib some where
[09:35] <starbuck33> hi there, could someone recomment a tool to encrypt a single file, preferably with a very strong algorithm?
[09:35] <oscailt> waheed: It's a piece of Cisco related software if I'm not mistaken.
[09:35] <oscailt> I can't remember exactly. Just know the name
[09:35] <JamezQ> starbuck33: That might be something to ask in #programming or depending on the language #python or #ruby.
[09:36] <jrib> starbuck33: gpg
[09:36] <oscailt> starbuck33: As jrib said; GPG
[09:36] <oscailt> RSA 4086
[09:37] <help_ent> hi, i installed lubuntu 12.04, I'm using an nvidia 570gtx, no proprietary drivers are available...
[09:37] <starbuck33> JamezQ: i'm only after a tool which does that, not to make one myself
[09:38] <starbuck33> jrib, oscailt: thx, i'll have a look at it
[09:38] <oscailt> help_ent: You don't always need proprietary drivers. I never use them and I have great graphics...
[09:38] <help_ent> oscailt: heard of 3D games?
[09:38]  * help_ent facepalms
[09:38] <help_ent> nvidia cards always have proprietary drivers
[09:38] <oscailt> starbuck33: GPG is useful for a lot of things. It's really use full.
[09:38] <help_ent> so I can't be wrong
[09:38] <oscailt> help_ent: I have, and I play them all the time.
[09:38] <help_ent> and I'm not using a GPU like this one to have the performance of a netbook
[09:39]  * help_ent facepalms
[09:39] <ubuntumad> guys I have installed ubuntu 12.04 first and I was in need of windows xp for some stuff. and I installed it in another partition. it is working properly. now I'm trying to install ubuntu in a separate partition thro usb creator. but when I click on "Install Ubuntu" it says that I cannot find any OS in my system. and when proceed further it doesn't show the partition present in the system. it just appears the whole hard drive?? i'm
[09:39] <help_ent> I already used the OSS drivers a while ago; had like 2SPF
[09:40] <jrib> help_ent: stay out of the sun!
[09:40] <oscailt> help_ent: Jokes aside. There should be proprietary drivers for your card. I'm not the one to ask about them though. haven't got a notion.
[09:40] <jrib> !nvidia > help_ent
[09:40] <PaSsI__> plz help me find the channel for c++
[09:41] <help_ent> PaSsI__: ##c++?
[09:41] <oscailt> PaSsI__: #cplusplus ??
[09:41] <VlanX> hi there.. any idea how in bash i can use a word on a text file to use as a variable and check if it matches with another variable?
[09:41] <ikonia> oscailt: if you don't know - don't answer
[09:42] <jrib> VlanX: #bash can help you
[09:42] <turtle_> after using unity for the last week, I kinda preferred GnomeDo from when i used to use ubuntu a few years back
[09:42] <JamezQ> VlanX: what does the text file look like?
[09:42] <ubuntumad> [URGENT]I have installed ubuntu 12.04 first and I was in need of windows xp for some stuff. and I installed it in another partition. it is working properly. now I'm trying to install ubuntu in a separate partition thro usb creator. but when I click on "Install Ubuntu" it says that I cannot find any OS in my system. and when proceed further it doesn't show the partition present in the system. it just appears the whole hard drive?? i
[09:43] <JamezQ> !wait
[09:43] <ikonia> ubuntumad: why are you trying to install ubuntu - you have already installed ubuntu
[09:44] <JamezQ> ikonia: I believe he is saying he can no longer find his ubuntu partition. I am guessing somehow xp took up the rest of the space.
[09:44] <VlanX> JamezQ: i need to take the IP address out from the text file of my router's configuration. The rest of the text file are CLI commands such as "ip addree <IP_ADDRESS>" for example. I need the VRA to be "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:45] <ikonia> JamezQ: seems reasonable
[09:45] <oscailt> ubuntumad: I'd say you didn't set up your partitions. Double check.
[09:45] <ubuntumad> ikonia: when we install XP in a system it eats up everything.. the ubuntu partition is still there but no bootloader to access it
[09:45] <PaSsI__> thanks help_ent  and oscailt
[09:46] <JamezQ> ubuntumad: Can you access the partition from a live cd, if you can, you're in luck, you only need to reinstall grub
[09:46] <ubuntumad> oscailt:  No if I boot XP it shows everything properly
[09:46] <ikonia> ubuntumad: ok - so you don't need to re-install, you just need to re-apply grub
[09:46] <PaSsI__> join/ #c++
[09:46] <ubuntumad> JamezQ: I'm using the live usb created flash drive it is not showing anything
[09:46] <oscailt> grub insatll --no-floppy
[09:47] <JamezQ> ubuntumad: In that case, it looks like the ubuntu partition is *not* still there
[09:47] <help_ent> is there any way to limit the refresh rate of LXDE to 60FPS in some way, so that I don't get that high-pitched sound?
[09:47] <JamezQ> VlanX: Do you mind if I help you in a /pm or in #bash? I don't want to spam this channel with non-ubuntu stuff
[09:47] <oscailt> Have a look in /boot/grub/grub.conf first though and check everything in there is good to go.
[09:47] <help_ent> it looks like it tries to render as fast as possible
[09:52] <oscailt> Out of curiosity does anyone know where the release party is for 12.10? I missed the 12.04 and I want to make this one.
[09:53] <ikonia> oscailt: it will be in #ubuntu-release-party when it opens closer to the release.
[09:54] <oscailt> ikonia: No, no. I'm talking of the 'real' party as in the one that happens over in London.
[09:54] <ikonia> oscailt: there are many parties, they will get announced when they are planned
[09:55] <JamezQ> octanium: I'll host one in san jose :)
[09:55] <oscailt> ikonia: Thanks. I'll ask popey when he gets on.
[09:57] <brontosaurusrex> what would be an app that would batch burn-in exif date into bunch of jpegs?
[09:58] <ikonia> brontosaurusrex: can you do that with imagemagik ?
[09:58] <ikonia> imagemagick
[09:58] <ikonia> sorry
[09:58] <brontosaurusrex> sure i can, is there a gui app?
[09:58] <ikonia> you didn't ask for a gui app
[09:59] <brontosaurusrex> what would be a GUI app that would batch burn-in exif date into bunch of jpegs?
[09:59] <ikonia> there is front end web applications for imagemagick, I'm not aware of an X11 app
[10:01] <brontosaurusrex> sheesh, i had an app like that, just cant remember the name ....
[10:11] <AdvoWork> if i want to change the ip of a server, is it literally just changing the ip in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hosts ? and reboot?
[10:11] <ikonia> AdvoWork: pretty much
[10:16] <MASTERPIECE> c.archimed.bg
[10:17] <AdvoWork> ikonia, anything else I need to do?
[10:18] <WeThePeople> where is the xorg server files stored
[10:18] <ikonia> AdvoWork: shouldn't need to
[10:18] <ikonia> WeThePeople: "server files" ?
[10:18] <ikonia> WeThePeople: what exactly are you looking for
[10:19] <WeThePeople> ikonia, the xorg files
[10:19] <ikonia> which xorg files
[10:19] <ikonia> to do what ?
[10:19] <JamezQ> WeThePeople: do you mean /etc/X11/ ?
[10:20] <JamezQ> and also /usr/share/X11/
[10:20] <alci> hi all
[10:20] <WeThePeople> ikonia, my ubuntu will only boot to tty, because it cant boot to the guo
[10:20] <WeThePeople> gui
[10:21] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ok - so why are you looking for X11 files ?
[10:21] <WeThePeople> jamezq, yes those
[10:21] <ikonia> WeThePeople: are you looking for the log files ?
[10:21] <alci> Quantal. my log is full of messages saying xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: WARN Event TRB for slot 1 ep 16 with no TDs queued?
[10:21] <WeThePeople> ikonia, yes that to thanks for reminding me lol
[10:21] <JamezQ> for error logs, that would be in /var/log
[10:21] <ikonia> WeThePeople: until you know why it's not booting to X11 it's a pointless task to change things
[10:21] <JamezQ> There seems to be a Xorg.0.log file, that should be it
[10:23] <WeThePeople> jamezq, under /etc
[10:23] <ikonia> no
[10:23] <ikonia> under /var/log
[10:23] <WeThePeople> thanks
[10:23] <ikonia> WeThePeople: has this ever worked (X11 gui ?)
[10:23] <bonno> hi i have a 170GB ubuntu partition and in the same HD the rest is free storage and in another HD i have 80GB for windows and the rest free storage too... i wanna reinstall ubuntu now but i want to make the ubuntu partition 60GB..how ca i do that? is there anyway to do it without losing the data on the non-bootable part of the disk?
[10:24] <WeThePeople> ikonia, yes
[10:24] <ikonia> bonno: just resize using gparted from the boot Cd
[10:24] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ok, what happened when it stopped working, did you upgrade ? change anything ?
[10:25] <bonno> and i wont lose the data on the disk part witch is non bootable? what i want to do actually is add the 170 - 60 = 110 GB of the bootable partition into the non bootable
[10:26] <WeThePeople> ikonia, i was transfering files from cd to hdd when the power cut out, and when i turned my comp. back on it 'needs to run in low graphics mode' so i boot to tty.
[10:26] <bonno> and then reinstall
[10:26] <ikonia> bonno bootable/non-bootable makes no difference
[10:26] <ikonia> WeThePeople: what files where you transfering ?
[10:26] <WeThePeople> ikonia, ubuntu
[10:27] <Robin_Hood> hi there
[10:27] <Robin_Hood> I would like to ask for a small help
[10:27] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ubuntu is not a file
[10:27] <ikonia> WeThePeople: what where you copying
[10:27] <WeThePeople> ikonia, mine wrer
[10:27] <WeThePeople> were
[10:27] <ikonia> WeThePeople: yours where what ?
[10:27] <JamezQ> !ask | Robin_Hood
[10:27] <WeThePeople> a folder of ubuntu
[10:27] <bonno> well ikonia did you understand what i am trying to say though ?
[10:28] <ikonia> WeThePeople: a folder of ubuntu ???
[10:28] <ikonia> WeThePeople: how hard is this to answer "what where the files"
[10:28] <ikonia> bonno: as you understand it, it's just resizing your disk
[10:28] <Datahell> what is the path where I can find the file that is edited by "crontab -e" for normal users?
[10:28] <WeThePeople> ikonia, yes not the iso but a folder of ubuntu
[10:28] <ikonia> WeThePeople: what do you mean, a folder of ubuntu ??
[10:28] <WeThePeople> cuz it doesnt matter
[10:28] <ikonia> WeThePeople: it does matter
[10:29] <ikonia> it could have changed your configs, which is why I'm asking what the contents of your files where
[10:29] <JamezQ> WeThePeople: It does matter, that is why we are asking...
[10:29] <Robin_Hood> In Ubuntu Installer for Windows what Installation Size Means ?
[10:29] <bonno> yeah..its just that..but how do i do it .. what you mentioned earlier is that i can do it while reinstallation?
[10:29] <brontosaurusrex> found it > Phatch is an user friendly, cross-platform Photo Batch Processor and Exif Renamer with a nice graphical user interface.
[10:29] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: How big it will make the ubuntu install size, meaning how much space you will have *in* ubuntu
[10:29] <soman> Hi all. Can I extract strings and put them in a new file by pattern in GEany?
[10:29] <Robin_Hood> Thanks JamezQ
[10:30] <JamezQ> soman: Oh that is just crying to be done with grep <pattern> file.txt > newfile.txt
[10:30] <ikonia> bonno: when you boot the install CD launch an application called gparted, it's an easy gui tool to resize
[10:31] <Robin_Hood> I allocated partition so I do I need to specify the whole partition size in Ubuntu Install size or ?
[10:31] <bonno> ok..thanks :) one last thing.. the data i have on that disk is it possible that i lose them?
[10:31] <JonBurton> Hi All
[10:31] <ikonia> bonno: yes
[10:31] <bonno> @#$  i dont want that :/
[10:31] <ikonia> bonno: then pay attention to what you are doing
[10:31] <JonBurton> Wondered if someone could help me please, I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04LTS on my laptop but would love to update to the 12.10 beta. Is there a way of doing this on the laptop or do i need to download it again to dvd and reinstall
[10:31] <WeThePeople> ikonia, i highly doubt that changed anything
[10:32] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: If you are using wubi, you don't need another parition. You are using wubi right?
[10:32] <ikonia> WeThePeople: I don't care anymore, I can't be bothered trying to get you to answer questions to try to actually help you
[10:32] <bonno> is there any way that i can resize the partitions from where i am now?! (running ubuntu)
[10:32] <ikonia> WeThePeople: if you don't want to answer my questions, that's your problem, good luck sorting your problems out
[10:32] <ikonia> bonno: no
[10:32] <ikonia> bonno: as your disks will be in use, that is a BIG risk
[10:32] <bonno> from disk utility maybe?
[10:32] <JamezQ> bonno: it's not a good idea
[10:32] <Robin_Hood> Yes I'm but I would like to have Ubuntu on Separate partition
[10:32] <Cottus> update-manager -d updates to 12.10 ?
[10:32] <bonno> oh ok
[10:32] <WeThePeople> ikonia, i did, ubuntu folder.. lol
[10:33] <ikonia> WeThePeople: that's not an answer, and I don't find it funny, I'm trying to help you and you seem to dodge the question
[10:33] <ikonia> WeThePeople: "an ubuntu" folder means nothing.
[10:33] <bonno> thanks ikonia .. :) have a nice day
[10:33] <JonBurton> Its not showing in my update manager
[10:34] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: Ah, well then you don't need to use wubi(and in fact you can't), if you already have ubuntu installed via wubi, *backup* files, uninstall, and then boot with a live cd or usb
[10:34] <WeThePeople> ikonia, thats what i have on the cd a folder of a iso of ubuntu, thats what i was transferring
[10:34] <WeThePeople> cd to hdd
[10:34] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ok, so you where transfering an ISO file,
[10:34] <WeThePeople> no a folder of a iso
[10:34] <ikonia> WeThePeople: ok - so an uncompressed ISO image
[10:34] <WeThePeople> i made the iso into a folder
[10:34] <Cottus> JonBurton, yes it's probably it
[10:35] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: The ubuntu installer should help partition windows and ubuntu together for you. If you already have a partitition and want to install to that one, it may be a little more involved, but you can do it.
[10:35] <WeThePeople> ikonia, i guess so
[10:35] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: Ask if you have any questions during it
[10:35] <JonBurton> Cottus - Nope 12.10 not showing, even gone in settings and asked to show all versions
[10:35] <Cottus> JonBurton, if you try update-manager -d ?
[10:35] <ikonia> WeThePeople: you "guess so" - ok I can't be bothered with this. If you don't want to answer my questions, I'm not interested.
[10:35] <JonBurton> yep
[10:36] <Cottus> ok
[10:36] <ominous> привет
[10:36] <ominous> всем
[10:36] <FloodBot1> ominous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <ominous> русские есть?
[10:36] <JonBurton> Only option then is GNUPGKeys
[10:36] <WeThePeople> does anybody know how to read a Xorg.5.log file??
[10:36] <Cottus> !ru ?
[10:36] <bonno> Russians are here :P
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> oops
[10:37] <ominous> ыы
[10:37] <ominous> привет
[10:37] <JonBurton> Any other ideas please?
[10:38] <Cottus> no
[10:38] <Robin_Hood> So can I still use wubi for installing Ubuntu on new partition or I need USB stick ?
[10:38] <crazydiamond> Hi. My aptitude says "no candidate for package 'kde'"
[10:38] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: Sadly you cannot use wubi for installing on a separate partition, you would need a usb stick or a cd/dvd
[10:39] <Robin_Hood> ok.Thank you
[10:39] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: Wubi is made for installing ubuntu inside of windows only
[10:39] <crazydiamond> what repo must I add?
[10:39] <JamezQ> Robin_Hood: No problems, good luck!
[10:39] <Robin_Hood> aha cool
[10:39] <soman> ominous: есть русскоговорящий
[10:40] <Robin_Hood> One last question. Will Ubuntu run on a netbook with Intel Atom CPU ? I already have Win 7
[10:40] <crazydiamond> везде есть. эт точно
[10:40] <JamezQ> JonBurton: I would add a repo, probably change something in your sources file, and add whatever repo the next ubuntu version is using
[10:40] <JamezQ> JonBurton: keep in mind this is dangerous work :p, upgrading to a beta, but you seem like an advanced use, after you do that, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might do it
[10:40] <JonBurton> Thanks JamezQ only thing is im a newbie, I know how to add a repo but not which one to add
[10:41] <roSievers> Hi, I set up an encrypted external HDD using cryptsetup und luks. I can mount it in Nautilus, but I only have read access, no writing permissions. How do I tune the permissions?
[10:41] <JonBurton> I just like to play, Im a Windows IT guy and now migrating after 17 years!
[10:42] <JamezQ> JonBurton: Well, first of all, for me, I have to know this is not a production machine, if you lost all your files from doing this, would you be okay? If not, generally you don't want to get into beta's, let alone try to hack an upgrade to them.
[10:42] <JamezQ> JonBurton: If your files on this are backed up or don't matter, I am happy to help
[10:42] <JonBurton> Yeah just my test laptop
[10:42] <JonBurton> Anything WIndows/AD/Serverside im good, but Linux a whole new world to me :)
[10:44] <JamezQ> JonBurton: Alright, let me think on this for a bit, I have to think with a bit of a debian mindset
[10:44] <connor_> Hi all - somewhat new to Ubuntu. I was hoping to troubleshoot some frequent freezing? Mouse still moves, keyboard responsive, screen elements (like clock) update but can't actually select or do anything. SSH from another computer fully responsive. I'm a bit confused because it doesn't seem like an X, input, HDD, or CPU problem...
[10:44] <JonBurton> Thanks JamezQ
[10:45] <connor_> (Also new to IRC, let me know the protocol for asking questions if I'm breaking it)
[10:45] <JamezQ> connor_: You're not :) don't worry.
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> JonBurton  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[10:45] <connor_> :-) Thanks Jamez
[10:45] <JonBurton> Thanks MonkeyDust
[10:46] <sunta> anyone know whats the replacement for prevu on 12.04?
[10:47] <royale1223> What's prevu?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> sunta  depends on what it does
[10:47] <royale1223> !prevu
[10:48] <royale1223> !backporting
[10:48] <connor_> Looks like something called backportpackage replaces it in precise
[10:49] <connor_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man1/backportpackage.1.html
[10:51] <connor_> So, any thoughts about the potential problem in a freeze with responsive mouse/keyboard, updating screen elements, full SSH capabilities but no actual interaction with windows/panels?
[10:51] <JamezQ> alright JonBurton basically to try to do this unsupported upgrade, I would replace instances of "precise" with "quantal" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <JamezQ> JonBurton: then I would do apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:52] <JamezQ> JonBurton: But honestly, I have never done it before, so good luck
[10:52] <nydel> connor_: are you running unity?
[10:52] <connor_> Negative, running xfce (mythbuntu)
[10:52] <nydel> connor_: xfce --replace -d :0
[10:52] <nydel> connor_: did you try that?
[10:53] <connor_> OK, just realized I can interact with the launchers on my desktop - I just loaded VirtualBox and windows XP, which responds perfectly
[10:53] <connor_> Does that just relaunch xfce's desktop environment?
[10:53] <nydel> connor_: i don't know for sure - most other environments have a --replace (-d display) option and it usually works miracles for me
[10:54] <JonBurton> Thanks JamezQ Ill give it a go
[10:54] <nydel> connor_: i use cinnamon, but i freely replace it with unity sometimes or gnome classic
[10:54] <connor_> Nydel: it appears that there is no xfce command
[10:55] <JamezQ> JonBurton: Tell me how it goes! I am curious
[10:55] <nydel> connor_: i've never used xfce but i'm looking at it now & it's pretty, i think i'm going to try it.
[10:56] <nydel> connor_: which xfce? any output?
[10:56] <connor_> Nydel: Thanks, I rather like it - except for the freezing! It looks like the equivalent command  might be xfdesktop --reload?
[10:56] <tripples> I just done "gnome-wm --replace -d :0" .Only one gnome-terminal window remaining .How to get it back ?
[10:56] <nydel> connor_: yes, try that - & if you have a display option it's usually best to specify. like -d :0
[10:57] <nydel> tripples: what are you trying to get back?
[10:57] <tripples> all gnome-shell interface that have disappeared.
[10:57] <connor_> Nydel: I'm not sure I ever specified a display like :0, but unfortunately I saw the desktop refresh but still can't interact with the panels or switch between the two open windows
[10:58] <nannes> What's the ubuntu developer's channel?
[10:58] <nannes> (here on freenode9
[10:58] <nydel> tripples: what win-man are you using
[10:58] <WeThePeople> what is this>>> /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic
[10:59] <nannes> WeThe font for a particular alphabet (cyrillic) and languages
[10:59] <nannes> WeThePeople: ^
[10:59] <nydel> connor_: did you ever try cinnamon?
[10:59] <WeThePeople> nannes, can you find it on your system
[11:00] <connor_> Nydel: I haven't - I'd be interested in trying it, but I need some sort of confirmation that my problem is xfce specific first. Does this sound like an environment problem that could be resolved by just switching to gnome or cinammon or something?
[11:00] <ikonia> nannes: depends on what type of development/developers you're looking for
[11:00] <ikonia> nannes: what's the topic and I'll point you at the right channel
[11:01] <nydel> connor_: well, what exactly is happening? windows just become unresponsive?
[11:01] <dazzgt> I have problems mounting partition, that has Linux raid autodetect filesystem
[11:03] <connor_> Nydel: Randomly (and this happens every day at least)… 1) computer becomes "unresponsive" but mouse/keyboard work, desktop launchers open programs, screen elements update. I just launched chrome for example, which works fine, but I can't resize the window or close it now that I've opened it except from inside the program (window decoration buttons don't work, but going to settings -> exit from inside the program does)
[11:04] <connor_> Nydel: LOL I forgot I was making a numbered list
[11:04] <nannes> WeThePeople: Mmmh actually it is not in my system, but I removed unity and all its components, so .. if it were one of them, that's for this reason
[11:04] <malko2> bonjour
[11:04] <nannes> ikonia: general and GUI developement
[11:04] <nannes> do you say gtk?
[11:05] <ikonia> nannes: Hmmm, that's a tough one as the desktop platform is unity, so I'd suggest the unity developers channel
[11:05] <nannes> and driver development. But i don't think it is ubuntu related: anonical never support kernel dev
[11:05] <ikonia> nannes: are you looking to contribute to unity ?
[11:06] <connor_> Nydel: And now after having been frozen for about half an hour, it just magically unfroze and is back to normal
[11:06] <nannes> actually it's not for me, it's been asked me
[11:06] <nannes> I hate unity :D
[11:06] <nannes> so I told him
[11:06] <ikonia> nannes: ok, so let the person who's asking come and ask
[11:06] <nannes> I'm waiting for his reply and I'll tell you
[11:06] <ikonia> not interested in working through a proxy
[11:08] <Firefishy> Please would someone show my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/precise-backports/+bug/1036618 some love?
[11:08] <ikonia> Firefishy contact the people who maintain that package rather than random people
[11:10] <Firefishy> ikonia: fine.
[11:10] <dazzgt> peoples help me please.  I have problems mounting partition, that has Linux raid autodetect filesystem and was created using mdadm. Can anyone help?
[11:11] <ikonia> dazzgt: explain the problem
[11:11] <nydel> dazzgt: explain the problem please?
[11:11] <nydel> ikonia: hah.
[11:11] <connor_> Nydel: and now it is again frozen
[11:12] <connor_> Nydel: <sigh>
[11:12] <nydel> connor_: it's happening right now?
[11:12] <connor_> Nydel: yes
[11:12] <connor_> Nydel: (I'm on a different computer, of course)
[11:13] <nydel> connor_: can you open a terminal?
[11:13] <nydel> connor_: or no response to any input from keyboard or mouse
[11:13] <connor_> Nydel: I can SSH from this laptop
[11:13] <dazzgt> ikonia,nydel:I can not mount the drive standing in Raid 1
[11:13] <nydel> connor_: but there's no way to do anything on (what do you wanna call computer 01?)
[11:14] <ikonia> dazzgt: ok, what command are you using and what error
[11:14] <connor_> Nydel: Keyboard and mouse are responsive (they can launch desktop launchers and such) but I'll just SSH from this computer
[11:14] <nydel> ?
[11:14] <nydel> connor_: can you just open a terminal on the computer
[11:14] <connor_> Nydel: We'll call it XFCE, and I'm SSHed into it right now
[11:14] <nydel> connor_: are you ssh'd as the same user
[11:14] <connor_> Nydel: yes
[11:15] <nydel> connor_: execute "top" & see if anything is unusual?
[11:15] <connor_> Nydel: resources are virtually unused
[11:15] <nydel> also connor_ do "ps -ef | grep defunct"
[11:16] <nydel> connor_: anything?
[11:16] <connor_> Nydel: connor   11808 11804  0 06:26 ?        00:00:00 [xfce4-terminal] <defunct>
[11:16] <connor_> connor   12615 12001  0 07:15 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto defunct
[11:16] <nydel> kill it
[11:16] <nydel> however you like
[11:17] <dazzgt> I did not even get to enter a normal request to Google. mount say unknouwn type file system 'linux_raid_member'
[11:17] <LorSamPau_w> kill it with fire, for example
[11:17] <ikonia> dazzgt: ok, what command are you using and what error
[11:17] <nydel> LorSamPau_w: is that a joke or is fire a command
[11:17] <LorSamPau_w> it's a joke
[11:17] <JamezQ> It's a joke, and a funny one at that :3
[11:17] <nydel> LorSamPau_w: :)
[11:17] <ikonia> dazzgt: actually, do't bother, I've asekd you two times now and you've not answered, the question. I'm not interested
[11:17] <connor_> Nydel: killed the terminal that was frozen, and it didn't closed the window but didn't resolve the freeze
[11:18] <wcchandler> ubuntu 12.04, where at in settings do you adjust the size of the bar thing on the left (I think it's called the docky?) i just updated my system and it resized it back up and can't seem to find where I changed it before
[11:18] <ikonia> LorSamPau_w: can you stop that "joke" please, it's the second time you've offered it to people today
[11:18] <connor_> Nydel: killed the other process, but it closed my ssh connection and didn't resolve it
[11:18] <dazzgt> ikonia: mount /dev/sdb3 /home/dazzgt/  unknouwn type file system 'linux_raid_member'
[11:18] <ikonia> dazzgt: you're mount a disk, not the raid device
[11:18] <ikonia> dazzgt: the raid device would be a meta device eg: md0
[11:18] <ikonia> dazzgt: /dev/sdb3 is a raid member - not a raid disk
[11:18] <nydel> connor_: right now on XFCE could you launch a terminal? if you have it global hotkeyed to c-meta-t for example?
[11:18] <LorSamPau_w> ikonia, i can count too
[11:19] <ikonia> and on that advice, I'll back away
[11:19] <ikonia> LorSamPau_w: ok, then please stop offing that "joke" as help
[11:19] <connor_> Nydel: Sure, that works fine, just replaced my entire environment with terminal (cntrl-optn-F1)
[11:20] <JamezQ> :/ I don't think that hurt anyone. It's not like he said a dangerous command. It was noted a joke soon after.
[11:20] <wcchandler> nevermind, must not be in unity
[11:20] <nydel> connor_: help me to understand better - is it that /some/ windows are unresponsive?
[11:21] <nydel> connor_: i know you can get to a terminal outside of xwindows, but can you launch one inside or would that require input that is not being received? or would the window launch then be unresponsive?
[11:22] <connor_> nydel: all windows are unresponsive, though the selected window accepts input and works normally. The XFCE panel is also unresponsive. I can't switch which window is in focus either
[11:22] <varun_> hi
[11:22] <dazzgt> ikonia: i bad speak english I have the drive of raid1. How do I read from it information?
[11:22] <connor_> Nydel: I have no way to launch terminal emulator from inside the GUI without the panel being responsive
[11:23] <connor_> Nydel: I'm guessing it's something to do with the XFCE window manager, but I don't know what would be causing a problem with that
[11:23] <nydel> connor_: join #xfce
[11:24] <Firefishy> ikonia: amd64-microcode, does it make a difference if the maintainer is from debian? The straight backport package build+installed 100%. Without microcode AMD systems are unstable.
[11:24] <dazzgt> ikonia I have 2 days trying to understand (((
[11:24] <connor_> Nydel: Fair enough - so you think this is definitely something specifically with the XFCE environment?
[11:25] <nydel> connor_: it sure seems like it, but i've never run XFCE. i bet we'll have better luck in #xfce, everyone here uses gnome or unity
[11:25] <nydel> connor_: i assume you've logged in & out etc
[11:25] <connor_> Nydel: Thanks so much for your responsiveness and your help so far! It's much appreciated
[11:25] <truexfan81> or MATE*
[11:25] <connor_> Nydel: restarted several times over the past few days, yes
[11:26] <nydel> connor_: very welcome, thanks for something to do lol. i'm reading through some documentation & forums to see if this problem has occurred before..
[11:26] <Bergcube> As late as yesterday the papers wrote about the recent vulnerabilities in (Sun) Java, recommending everyone should disable it. I want to assume that with an updated Ubuntu 12.04 / Firefox / Iced-Tea we are safe. As Sun Java < > Iced-Tea...  Do any of you have definite knowledge about this?
[11:27] <truexfan81> well i know i'm safe
[11:27] <truexfan81> i don't have any java installed lol
[11:27] <aguadito> how can you survive without java?
[11:27] <nydel> connor_: what kind of panels are these? are they native to xfce?
[11:27]  * truexfan81 shrugs
[11:27] <aguadito> my banking system's log-on is java-based
[11:27] <Bergcube> truexfan81, Very helpful!
[11:28] <JamezQ> Java in the browser is almost never used aguadito
[11:28] <JamezQ> except in coorporations like yours I suppose :p
[11:28] <connor_> Nydel: yes, XFCE defaults to one horizontal panel in the top for applications menu and icons
[11:28] <aguadito> yea we have a weird digital security syste
[11:28] <JamezQ> anyway Bergcube, yes, it should not be auto enabled, and instead be ask-to-use.
[11:28] <aguadito> m
[11:28] <truexfan81> Bergcube: if you use firefox, just use the noscript addon, and only allow scripts from sites you trust, you will be fine
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:29] <Bergcube> JamezQ, Yeah that stands to reason. I never enable plugins unless I want them on a given page.  So are you saying that Iced-Tea does not have the weakness Sun Java has?  THAT is what I want to know.
[11:29] <JamezQ> Hello BluesKaj
[11:30] <BluesKaj> hi JamezQ
[11:30] <nydel> connor_: and it's the pannels that become unresponsive? or the windows? you said you launched chrome, was chrome responsive?
[11:30] <JamezQ> Bergcube: Sorry, I don't know the answer to that. maybe someone else here does
[11:30] <JamezQ> Bergcube: I would assume on the safe side, of course, but that is not what you are asking about
[11:31] <truexfan81> JamezQ: does iced-tea come preinstalled on ubuntu minimal? if so i may be running that
[11:31] <Dr_willis> not much comes preionstalled on 'minimal'
[11:31] <JamezQ> truexfan81: Java does not come preinstalled in ubuntu at all
[11:31] <Dr_willis> you install what you want with it.
[11:31] <Bergcube> JamezQ, Ok; thanks.
[11:31] <truexfan81> Dr_willis: i know, i love it :)
[11:31] <connor_> Nydel: panels and window frames are unresponsive, and can't switch window focus, but active window contents ARE responsive (hence, opened Chrome and could interact within it as long as it was in focus)
[11:31] <Dr_willis> so you know it would onlyu be there if you installed it. ;)
[11:32] <truexfan81> Dr_willis: when i switched from mint 13 to 12.04 minimal it felt like i got a cpu upgrade lol
[11:32] <Dr_willis> err... Minimal just means  you install what you want..  after you start installing stuff. its not really minimnal any more.
[11:32] <JamezQ> truexfan81: yea, anything minimal is nice, try arch too
[11:32] <nydel> connor_: if you launch chrome, then kill chrome, are pannels responsive again?
[11:33] <truexfan81> Dr_willis: thats true
[11:33] <truexfan81> alto i do build most of my apps from source
[11:34] <nydel> connor_: i assume you launched chrome using a shortcut on one of the panels? but then once chrome is in foreground, panels behave like modals / frozen
[11:35] <JamezQ> truexfan81: Sounds great, you have that choice and if it makes a better system for you, I am glad linux helped you achieve it.
[11:35] <truexfan81> JamezQ: thanks
[11:35] <connor_> Nydel: I tried that earlier and they didn't. And that's incorrect - I launched chrome from a desktop launcher, which I think might be a gnome thing rather than an XFCE thing (maybe why it still works?)
[11:35] <connor_> Nydel: Panels are always 100% unresponsive to input, though the clock on the panel updates
[11:35] <Dr_willis> xfce uses the various .desktop launcher files as well as gnome does.
[11:36] <BaldFat> connor_: do you have htop installed?
[11:36] <connor_> BaldFat: I don't, should I install over SSH?
[11:36] <BaldFat> connor_: sudo apt-get install htop
[11:36] <connor_> BaldFat: Installed
[11:37] <BaldFat> connor_: then just open it in a terminal and it will give you a quick idea on what is happening
[11:38] <connor_> BaldFat: Hmmm… Mem at top says [||||||||||||49   ] (I assume 49%) used, but no specific program is using more than 0.1%
[11:38] <BaldFat> connor_: what is your cpu?
[11:39] <connor_> BaldFat: Negligible
[11:39] <QuackQuacker> Hey i have 11.04 currently, is there good reasons for upgrading to 11.04.1? (LTS)
[11:39] <fidel> QuackQuacker: there is more then 1 good reason to upgrade to 12.04 ;)
[11:40] <QuackQuacker> =]
[11:40] <connor_> BaldFat: 1%
[11:40] <BaldFat> connor_: What window manager are you using?
[11:40] <connor_> BaldFat: whatever is default with XFCE
[11:40] <QuackQuacker> i love 11.04 but when i check my dvd i wrote 11.04 but current version on site is 11.04.1 fidel, do you know if there is anything different in 11.04.1 thats worth downloading it for?
[11:40] <xangua> QuackQuacker: 11.04 is not lts
[11:41] <QuackQuacker> oh
[11:41] <QuackQuacker> i have to go google on that lts then
[11:41] <Dr_willis> QuackQuacker,  if you update/upgrade - it whould go to 11.04.1
[11:41] <JamezQ> ... there is no 11.04.1
[11:41] <fidel> QuackQuacker: 11.04.1 ois 11.04 if its updated
[11:41] <BaldFat> connor_: well you installed ubuntu 12.04 unity and then installed Xfce?
[11:41] <Dr_willis> if you do a release upgrade - it should to to 12.04.1
[11:41] <JamezQ> that doesn't exist
[11:41] <JamezQ> there are only point releases on LTS's
[11:41] <connor_> BaldFat: and while we're talking about window managers, I was messing around with compiz a bit over in the Unity environment - but at the end I reset everything with gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[11:41] <QuackQuacker> Dr_willis i get a red triangle at top of the screen lately when trying to update, so ive considered formatting
[11:41] <Dr_willis> QuackQuacker,  I always use the command line..
[11:42] <fidel> QuackQuacker: but still why do you think you should prefer old versions? and when will you consider jumping to newer versions? ;)
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w> 11.04=11.04.1
[11:42] <QuackQuacker> i always love going to new versions
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w> at this miment
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w> *moment
[11:42] <BaldFat> connor_: restart compiz its like compiz --replace
[11:42] <Dr_willis> QuackQuacker,  i always format/reinstall the new releases..
[11:42] <connor_> BaldFat: in fact, I installed MythBuntu (default environment is XFCE), but then installed Unity to try it out
[11:42] <QuackQuacker> okay, thanks Dr_willis , fiedel and xangua =]
[11:42] <holgersson> Tach
[11:42] <fidel> QuackQuacker: i never format/reinstall - to show the different side ;)
[11:43] <connor_> BaldFat: Mythbuntu is just XFCE ubuntu 12.04 with MythTV installed / preconfigured
[11:43] <holgersson> Wie stabil ist denn ubuntuone? Gibt's irgendwelche Verbinundsabbrüche oder Ähnliches?
[11:43] <Stars> hi guys, i have 22 hard drives and one was bad, I knew the UID # but how can I identify which one was bad? by looking at?
[11:43] <fidel> !de | holgersson
[11:43] <holgersson> oh, sry, wron channel
[11:43] <thebananafish> find serial number of drive?
[11:43] <BaldFat> connor_: well I am not a HUGE Xfce fan I can see the attraction but MythTY is one of those things that if you have it working DONT TOUCH :)
[11:43] <holgersson> ubottu, fidel: I just saw it, I'm sorry about this mistake :)
[11:43] <holgersson> haha :D
[11:44] <Stars> thebananafish, what cmd let me see the serial#?
[11:44] <connor_> BaldFat: No kidding, haha… configuration has been pain in the ass! But it's all setup now except for this freezing issue
[11:44] <thebananafish> I forget what the command was hold on
[11:45] <connor_> BaldFat: I tried "compiz --replace" over SSH and got "FAtal: Couldn't open display"
[11:45] <BaldFat> connor_: Did you remove unity?
[11:45] <thebananafish> #hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Serial
[11:45] <BaldFat> connor_: that is normal
[11:45] <Stars> eventhough i has a serial#? but i still pull one one by one anyway
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Stars,  do some read operation on each drive.. and listen to the drives? ;)
[11:46] <Dr_willis> then move to the next..
[11:46] <thebananafish> :\ yeah you may be out of luck
[11:46] <BaldFat> connor_: it should have taken about 10 seconds to get compiz totally rebooted
[11:46] <thebananafish> or that
[11:46] <BaldFat> connor_: the error is just saying it is rebooting
[11:46] <thebananafish> do you have status lights on this server or what?
[11:46] <vlt> Hello. Is there a pkg in 10.04 LTS that will always install the latest linux-image-3... or do I have to keep track manually?
[11:47] <Dr_willis> or just unplug half the hds and see if its in the half that was there or not.. :) then repeate..
[11:47] <ikonia> vlt: if there is a kernel update, update-manager will offer it to you
[11:47] <Stars> thebananafish, it was bad i umounted, but still functional
[11:47] <connor_> BaldFat: OK, I managed to do it on the MythBuntu computer directly and saw a screen refresh, and got "backend: ini; integration: true; profile: default; adding plugins; initializing core options… done; … and now it is stuck there, not yet back to prompt and it's been about 1 min
[11:47] <BaldFat> connor_: UGH
[11:47] <fidel> vlt: just curious - what kernel do you get on 10.04 nowadays?
[11:47] <vlt> ikonia: When I install 3.0.0-26-generic for example now?
[11:48] <Stars> i guess ihave to do the old way by pull out one by one and test it with another computer
[11:48] <vlt> fidel: ^
[11:48] <ikonia> vlt: what ?
[11:48] <jrib> Dr_willis: binary search!
[11:48] <connor_> BaldFat: Not L33T enough to know what that means… do we have a Compiz problem?
[11:48] <ikonia> !info linux-image-#lucid
[11:48] <fidel> vlt: just asking as you get 3.2.0-31 on 12.04 out of the box iirc
[11:49] <ikonia> !info linux-image #lucid
[11:49] <ikonia> !info linux-image lucid
[11:49] <BaldFat> connor_: yeah it is surely a compiz issue. I would have thought OpenBox would be a good wm for mythtv
[11:49] <thebananafish> Stars: oh ok
[11:49] <ikonia> vlt: 2.6.32 is the current 10.04 kernel
[11:49] <twitchie> any1 had success running an intel igpu as primary device and then able to initialize proprietary ati drivers to crunch hashes?
[11:49] <vlt> fidel: I know. But I have one machine where 12.04 doesn’t work properly but now I have hardware I need to run on 10.04 that isn’t supported by the default 2.6.38 on 10.04.
[11:50] <connor_> BaldFat: No doubt it is if it's what was packaged with MythBuntu… I probably just screwed up a compiz setting while messing around in Unity. There must be a reasonable way to totally reinstall or reset compiz?
[11:50] <ikonia> vlt: what hardware is not supported
[11:50] <vlt> ikonia: Yes, but there’s a linux-image-3.0.0-26 as well.
[11:50] <jrib> !info linux-image-generic-lts-backport-oneiric lucid
[11:50] <ikonia> vlt: no, there isn't it's not in the main repo, it's from some other repo
[11:51] <BaldFat> connor_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2057378
[11:51] <jrib> ikonia: they backported the kernels up to oneric
[11:51] <BaldFat> connor_: tried that?
[11:51] <ikonia> jrib: there you go, the backports repo, thank you
[11:51] <jrib> ikonia: strangely enough it's actually from lucid-updates and lucid-security main :P
[11:51] <ikonia> jrib: oh, it's classed as a security.....
[11:52] <Dr_willis> most of been a big security issue then?
[11:52] <jrib> My guess is they have a policy to backport the kernels for newer ubuntu versions until a new LTS hits, but I don't know for sure
[11:53] <jrib> there are equivalent -natty and -maverick packages available in lucid
[11:54] <ha1dfo> hi all. I'm using ubuntu 12.04, libvirt + qemu and UFW. However simply cannot get the DNAT through ufw. does any of you have experience with portforward/DNAT with ufw?
[11:55] <connor_> BaldFat: things aren't looking great… I can't reset compiz over SSH. It's giving me errors and kicking me right back to prompt without having any effect on the Mythbuntu computer
[11:55] <vlt> ikonia: I see. The hardware is an NI KA 6 usb audio device.
[11:56] <BaldFat> I would sudo reboot and then ssh ina nd then manually go startx and see what happens
[11:56] <connor_> BaldFat: rebooting
[11:57] <BaldFat> connor_: Sorry this stuff on servers alwasy drives me nuts when it is a wm issue. x and compiz are not the best of friends at times
[11:58] <connor_> BaldFat: Thanks for the sympathy, haha. I just want to reset everything relating to window management to default, and would be happy to uninstall unity if it might help
[11:58] <connor_> BaldFat: Back in XFCE
[11:59] <holgersson> Hi again, this time in the correct language :D
[12:00] <holgersson> How does ubuntuone works? Is this a user-specified directory, which is synced with a server or is it a kind of network-files-system, which I can mount into somewhere in /?
[12:00] <JamezQ> It is a directory that is synced with the server
[12:00] <JamezQ> it is not a network file system
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> holgersson  basically, it syncs your folders with the ubuntu cloud
[12:01] <holgersson> thx!
[12:01] <JamezQ> It is not in it's own mount point, it's just in /home/usr/Ubuntu\ One
[12:01] <jonathan_> jSanp
[12:01] <BaldFat> connor_: Well a windows xp mindset uninstall helps in Linux it really doesn't matter in Linux it is the configuration that needs to be fixed
[12:01] <BaldFat> connor_: brb
[12:01] <holgersson> jonathan_: so my problem is I have to store the data locally, not *only* in the cloud
[12:02] <holgersson> sry jonathan_
[12:02] <holgersson> I wanted to say it to JamezQ
[12:02] <JamezQ> Ah
[12:02] <JamezQ> holgersson: Well, that is what Ubuntu one does, actually
[12:03] <JamezQ> holgersson: The data will be both on your computer and in the cloud
[12:03] <JamezQ> if you lose your internet connection, all synced data will  still be there
[12:03] <JamezQ> you can edit add and delete files
[12:03] <toshgsh> if i have a dual setup monitor how can i use a preferable refresh rate for one of the monitors?
[12:03] <JamezQ> and when you get internet again, they will re-sync
[12:03] <LorSamPau_w> !ubuntuone
[12:04] <holgersson> JamezQ: And I see this as my 'problem' - I just want to create a small LUKS-backup-image in the cloud without any local copy.
[12:05] <JamezQ> holgersson: Ah, well, you can always upload the file to google-drive or something. but I don't know of any simple way to do it
[12:06] <JamezQ> holgersson: Of coruse, there is having a server you contorl and using NFS
[12:06] <JamezQ> holgersson: or ftp, etc, but that is more involved
[12:07] <LorSamPau_w> holgersson, you can upload any file to ubuntu one or dropbox without creating local copy
[12:08] <LorSamPau_w> holgersson, jutt do it  through web interface
[12:08] <holgersson> LorSamPau_w: The client doesn't sync the files from the server to my local harddisk?
[12:08] <LorSamPau_w> holgersson, you can delete the client and use just the web interface
[12:09] <holgersson> I read, I was just to late typing
[12:10] <connor_> BaldFat: I deleted ~/.compiz-1, ~/.config, ~/.cache/sessions… hopefully compiz doesn't keep more personalized settings elsewhere?
[12:10] <holgersson> connor_: maybe find ~ -iname *compiz* helps you :)
[12:10] <BaldFat> connor_: did you read to do that? Some programs don't auto regen a new configuration if deleted
[12:10] <LorSamPau_w> holgersson, or you can configure the client(s) to sync only exect folders
[12:12] <connor_> I did read to do that, they should have all just been personalized settings
[12:12] <holgersson> LorSamPau_w: Well, your idae doesn't solve the last problem: I have to download the whole file vor accessing it, I can't just mount the network file system, decrypt the LUKS-device, mount it elsewhere and write my data ;)
[12:12] <BaldFat> connor_: ok then you have to restart with compiz --replace correct?
[12:12] <connor_> LorSamPau-w: I found a few that I didn't delete in .gconf/apps
[12:12] <JamezQ> well, you are still downloading the file even with a network file system
[12:12] <JamezQ> holgersson: ^
[12:12] <connor_> LorSamPau-w: worth deleting also?
[12:13] <JamezQ> holgersson: But if you want a NFS or something you just can mount and use, I suggest a VPS or a home server.
[12:13] <holgersson> JamezQ: yes, I see ubuntOne isn't something for me.
[12:14] <holgersson> Thank you for your help, have fun with your distro and goodbye!
[12:14] <connor_> BaldFat: compiz --replace STILL refreshes screen, gets to "initializing core options… done" then hangs
[12:14] <LorSamPau_w> connor_, I guess supposed to type it to some1 else
[12:14] <connor_> LorSamPau_w: LOL, it was apropos to me… looks like Compiz is just a troublemaker
[12:15] <LorSamPau_w> connor_, you can type just a few first letters of the nickname and use [tab]
[12:15] <BaldFat> connor_: ok this sounds bad but that's good. I think it is a driver issue then when things go 3d. what vido card or is it intel
[12:15] <connor_> LorSamPau_w: Nice!! Love it
[12:15] <connor_> BaldFat: Onboard intel, no separate video card
[12:16] <BaldFat> connor_: what chipset?
[12:16] <connor_> BaldFat: aaaaaaaaand we're frozen again, awesome
[12:16] <connor_> BaldFat: embarassing, but how do I check for that?
[12:17] <BaldFat> lspci
[12:17] <bonhoeffer> i know the new version has a nice window manager -- there was a shortcut that told me what all the shortcuts are on the screen -- any help?
[12:17] <BaldFat> lspci | grep 'intel'
[12:17] <bonhoeffer> i think i'm 12.04 default window manager
[12:18] <connor_> BaldFat: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:18] <JamezQ> bonhoeffer: in 12.04, you can hold the "super" key to show shortcuts
[12:18] <JamezQ> bonhoeffer: aka: The windows key, on your keyboard
[12:19] <connor_> BaldFat: It's the 6 Series / C200 Series Chipset Family
[12:20] <JamezQ> It's the one on the left: http://content.answcdn.com/main/content/img/CDE/_WINKEY.JPG
[12:21] <BaldFat> connor_: any luck at #ubuntu-mythtv I really think maybe its a wierd compiz issue then. I am not a knowledgeable compiz man. I normally run things with compiz off burned way to many times
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> JamezQ, hmm.  . . it brings up a run menu for me .. . but i think it did work before
[12:21] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . quick hit versus long hit
[12:21] <connor_> BaldFat: Can I just turn off compiz then?
[12:21] <JamezQ> bonhoeffer: Yes, you have to press and *hold* it to show the shortcuts
[12:21] <BaldFat> connor_: I would see if you could switch to openbox :)
[12:22] <connor_> BaldFat: but to be clear, you don't think this is a problem with XFCE (so I couldn't fix it just by switching to gnome or something), it's a problem with compiz, and thus my whole installation
[12:23] <julius_> hi
[12:23] <JamezQ> Hello julius_
[12:23] <julius_> (grub.cfg)    why is there a search --fs-uuid in each boot entry and root=UUID=     at the end of each kernel line?
[12:23] <BaldFat> well its always worth a try to switch the de and see what happens. Just log in under gnome
[12:23] <Dr_willis> root=(the partion with the UUID of the following)
[12:24] <julius_> Dr_willis, following what?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> julius_,  with the following #....
[12:24] <Dr_willis> root=UUID=#########
[12:24] <BaldFat> but to have best practice I would just have it start at level 3 and then startx in the command prompt to read the errors
[12:25] <julius_> Dr_willis, so that tells the kernel to get data from that partition.....what  about the search thing then?
[12:25] <BaldFat> connor_: Slaps forehead read your logs on x
[12:25] <Dr_willis> julius_,  never noticed. id have to say check the grub2 docs.. it may be telling grub to sacn all the disks for their uuids
[12:25] <connor_> Xorg.0.log?
[12:26] <BaldFat> connor_: yes go tail /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:26] <julius_> Dr_willis, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#search                 sounds like its doing the exact same thing
[12:26] <connor_> BaldFat: [   859.352] (II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-03AF3717FF3AB439A4BAABA686CCB40771CDF520.xkm
[12:26] <connor_> [   860.752] (II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-03AF3717FF3AB439A4BAABA686CCB40771CDF520.xkm
[12:26] <connor_> [   861.864] (II) XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-03AF3717FF3AB439A4BAABA686CCB40771CDF520.xkm
[12:26] <BaldFat> then see what happens when you go compiz --replace in a different terminal
[12:27] <BaldFat> connor_: tail gives you all the lines added to the end of log in real time
[12:27] <BaldFat> its tail -f /var/log/xorg.0.log
[12:28] <Dr_willis> julius_,  sounds to me like the 2 work together.. one gets the FS id.. the other uses it.
[12:29] <julius_> Dr_willis, if the second would just use it why specifiy the same UUID in the boot entry?
[12:30] <toni> hi ubuntu lovers..what is the best too to manage my ipad?
[12:30] <Dr_willis> julius_,  id say ask in #grub
[12:30] <julius_> Dr_willis, thx
[12:30] <Dr_willis> one reads all the UUIDs for the second to use is how i read it.
[12:30] <connor_> BaldFat, still get "compiz (core) - Fatal, couldn't open display" and no indication that it's doing anything at all on the Myth box. Nothing was writted to the X log
[12:31] <JamezQ> ah, after many hours, I must sleep
[12:31] <JamezQ> Good night all
[12:31] <BaldFat> connor_: so you deleted everything you needed on compiz? Did you do a find / -name nameditem?
[12:31] <connor_> BaldFat: Also somewhat different symptoms this time… XFCE panels now launch things, but they're all stuck up in the top left corner of the screen and window borders remain responsive
[12:32] <BaldFat> connor_: check the /var/log/daemon.log
[12:33] <administrator__> hi
[12:33] <connor_> BaldFat: no such log
[12:33] <administrator__> my name is prakash
[12:33] <administrator__> i am looking option for block usb device
[12:34] <connor_> BaldFat: Im of half a mind to just purge compiz. It looks like XFCE uses XFWM as a window manager by default, so I can try to switch back to that…?
[12:34] <BaldFat> administrator__: for enterprise or just blacklisting on your own system?
[12:35] <BaldFat> connor_: I would try using xfce and it's settings to just switch window managers. I am not sure the right app for that in xfce
[12:35] <Dr_willis> connor_,  yes. xfce uses xfwm i belive. ;) not been following your compiz issues.
[12:35] <BaldFat> Dr_willis: He has compiz not starting core dump
[12:36] <administrator__> i want to block pen drive in pc
[12:36] <connor_> Dr_willis: Is there an easy way to switch to xfwm only, and get rid of compiz?
[12:36] <BaldFat> administrator__: block any pendrive just on your computer?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> connor_,  reset all your xfce settings back to defaults and iut should do it.. I dont use xfce
[12:36] <administrator__> yes
[12:36] <BaldFat> connor_: dont have to get rid of compiz just don't have it start
[12:37] <barneyfife> k
[12:37] <BaldFat> administrator__: sudo echo "blacklist usb-storage" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:37] <administrator__> i try it but it not work
[12:37] <ish_018> hi guys..
[12:38] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  the askubuntu.com site had several questions/tips on doing this i recall seeing last week.
[12:39] <administrator__> i allready put the question but still i am not get any response
[12:39] <BaldFat> administrator__: make sure you have the modprob for usb working on your system. try modprobe
[12:40] <connor_> Dr_willis: BaldFat : Success! Running xfwm4 --replace replaces compiz with the functional xfwm4, XFCE's default window manager
[12:40] <BaldFat> connor_: nice now just make sure the mythtv side likes it :(
[12:40] <connor_> Dr_willis BaldFat : So now, how to make sure compiz does not start on boot, but rather xfwm?
[12:40] <digitalninja> hi
[12:41] <administrator__> dear i am using ubuntu first time can you give some more details step by step
[12:41] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  i saw the question asked and answered in several forms at askubuntu.com     they  mentioned blacklisting, and making fstab entries, and udev rule changes.. depending on the details of what you want to do.
[12:41] <ish_018> administrator_ , welcome to ubuntu community
[12:41] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  why is it so critical you do this rather... odd thing?
[12:42] <connor_> BaldFat: Like a charm - XBMC and MythTV are happy, so I am too
[12:42] <administrator__> i have my own computer class and i want to prevent student to use pen drive
[12:42] <BaldFat> good have class now have a great day
[12:43] <connor_> BaldFat: You too man
[12:43] <connor_> BaldFat: Thanks again
[12:43] <connor_> Dr_willis: How can I make sure my system boots into XFWM rather than compiz now?
[12:44] <Dr_willis> connor_,  no idea. i dont use xfwm. it should save the setting  after you did that --replace
[12:44] <connor_> Dr_willis: :-) Thanks for the help!
[12:44] <Dr_willis> ive never understood people trying to use compiz with xfce ;P
[12:44] <administrator__> i try your command sudo echo .... but i get error permission denied whiile i am use administrator
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Blacklist the usb_storage module by adding blacklist usb_storage to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf.
[12:46] <administrator__> hey dr_willis are u there ?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79043/disable-usb-mass-storage
[12:46] <Dr_willis> seen other ways to block specific usb drives also. dependng on what you need.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> !blacklist
[12:47] <bonhoeffer> i created a symlink -- now i can't remove it "too many levels of symbolic links"
[12:47] <ish_018> install ubuntu tweak and uncheck show mounted volumes on desktop..
[12:48] <geirha> bonhoeffer: what command did you run to create the link, and what command are you using to remove it?
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/3799619 <-- gierha
[12:49] <bonhoeffer> geirha, (sorry)
[12:50] <administrator__> i add menually in blacklist.conf but now it is not save
[12:50] <geirha> bonhoeffer: so is /var/www a symlink too?
[12:50] <bonhoeffer> yes
[12:51] <bonhoeffer> got it
[12:51] <bonhoeffer> thanks!
[12:51] <geirha> administrator__: sudoedit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf
[12:51] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  since thats a system configf file, you need sudo rights to modify it..
[12:51] <tryingUbuntu> hello all... attention please,,, my update manager came up downloaded, and is installing all WITHOUT me putting in my password!! that is the 1st time it never asked for it.. IS this something to be worried about    a virus??
[12:51] <Dr_willis> tryingUbuntu,  theres a setting to auto install updates ive seen...
[12:52] <madura> my router has a usb ethernet interface(uses rndis) to use it i have to replug the usb cable, anyway to fix it?
[12:52] <tryingUbuntu> Dr_willis   I DIDNT set it though
[12:52] <Dr_willis> tryingUbuntu,  i doubt if its a virus..  double check that setting.
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> a virus?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> since it would be a weird virus.. and  i know of no linux viruses out. ;)
[12:53] <tryingUbuntu> Dr_willis  well I dont know where it is and it is complete and looks like a normal operation
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> exciting! what am i missing?
[12:53] <administrator__> where i get i have sudo rights or not
[12:53] <Dr_willis> i would bet you did set it somewhere and dont rember it.. I dont even recall where its at..
[12:53] <atealtha> I've been using the official gnome3 PPA, suddenly today ubuntu kept telling me I had to do a system upgrade, and it took down all those packages with no replacements, what gives?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  'sudo nano /path/to/file' it will ask for your password if you have sudo access...
[12:53] <atealtha> anyone else using gnome3 ppa ran into this?
[12:53] <tryingUbuntu> Dr_willis  Ill find it.. ok and thx
[12:53] <geirha> administrator__: Unless you've changed the sudoers file, users that are member of the admin group can run things as sudo
[12:53] <administrator__> ok dear  file is save now
[12:54] <administrator__> now what to do ?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> administrator__,  reboot...
[12:54] <Dr_willis> see if it worked.
[12:54] <administrator__> if i reboot i loss you ?
[12:54] <Dr_willis> err.... if you reboot.. the pc totally restarts....
[12:54] <jrib> Dr_willis: we will chain Dr_willis down so that he will still be here when you return
[12:55]  * Dr_willis runs away to the #mylittleponies channel
[12:55] <xangua> atealtha: you are already using gnome3 and you don't need a gnome3 ppa if what you want is install gnome-shell
[12:55] <administrator__> okey dear so now i am going to reboot my system
[12:55] <administrator__> thanks in advance
[12:56] <administrator__> if i got any problem i am back again
[12:56] <administrator__> thanks
[12:56] <atealtha> xangua: it says it's already installed, but nothing on boot right now. it just has the ubuntu splash with the row of dots
[12:59] <administrator__> hi dear
[12:59] <administrator__>  i am back again
[12:59] <administrator__> hello Dr-willi are u there ?
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> !tab | administrator__
[13:00] <jrib> administrator__: did your issue go away?
[13:04] <administrator__> no dear
[13:04] <Dr_willis> and dont expect people to become your personal 'answer-machines'
[13:04] <administrator__> still i face the problem
[13:05] <Dr_willis> all i know on the topic was in that askubuntu.com url that said to blacklist the module.
[13:05] <Dr_willis> Give us details.. what you are doing, trying, and whats happening.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> administrator__,  what's the "dear" thing ?
[13:06] <administrator__> i want to block usb
[13:06] <administrator__> in my system
[13:06] <_XMENDES> i need install on xorg 2 monitors on 2 differents Vcards. 00:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[13:06] <Dr_willis> we can read more then 4 words in a line..  specifically  you are trying (if i paste it all together) You want to block access to USB flash drives and other removeabel media?
[13:06] <_XMENDES> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> administrator__  do you have a reference, somebody who managed to do that?
[13:07] <_XMENDES> i put busId on first 00.10:00 and secound 01:00:00 .. thats correct?
[13:07] <administrator__> Dr_willi guide my to block usb from blacklist.conf
[13:07] <administrator__> but it not work
[13:08] <_XMENDES> its not working .. because the X crashes and i have to remove de xorg.conf to initialize again.
[13:08] <_XMENDES> error "no screen found"
[13:09] <administrator__> hi dear r u there ?
[13:09] <Dr_willis> _XMENDES,  S3  is known to be very very problematic.
[13:09] <OerHeks> _XMENDES, you need the old nvidia 96 driver for that card ( mx4000) and the S3 unichrome is also a troublemaker.
[13:10] <google_360_baidu> is anyone have used ubuntu 12.10?
[13:10] <_XMENDES> i installed the 96 nvidia driver .. but its install just one VGA card. and dont put BusId Adress on xorg.
[13:10] <_XMENDES> xorg crashes when i give command nvidia-xconfigure
[13:10] <administrator__> how to block usb
[13:10] <OerHeks> google_360_baidu, 12.10 is not supported here yet, join #ubuntu+1 for QQ 12.10 support/talk
[13:11] <_XMENDES> only work the S3, and i have to remove the xorg.conf
[13:11] <_XMENDES> and startx again
[13:11] <madura> OerHeks: is there a fix for usb cable replugging for routers?
[13:12] <administrator__> quit
[13:12] <OerHeks> madura what do you mean by that ? usb + routers are odd.
[13:13] <RobZ1> hi - how can I update the root CA certificates (provider by VeriSign on their website)?  Ubuntu 10.10
[13:13] <madura> OerHeks: i happen to have one, it uses ethernet over usb with rndis_host but i have to replug it everytime to connect
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> RobZ1  10.10 is dead
[13:14] <RobZ1> MonkeyDust: yeah
[13:14] <OerHeks> _XMENDES, you probably want to use S3 onboard + agp nvida together, and one switches off.i think that is the issue
[13:14] <google_360_baidu> how to join ubuntu 12.10
[13:15] <_XMENDES> nvidia is pci old. and its running at same time on win ..
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> google_360_baidu  type /join #ubuntu+1
[13:15] <_XMENDES> s3 onboard + pci(old) nvidia
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> RobZ1  first upgrade, then ask again
[13:16] <_XMENDES> but on lspci | grep VGA  they appears on differents address
[13:16] <RobZ1> MonkeyDust: what could possibly go wrong right
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> RobZ1  go wrong with what?
[13:17] <madura> OerHeks: any help with fixing it?
[13:18] <OerHeks> madura, i don't know what to look for, maybe someone else has experience with your issue.
[13:19] <RobZ1> MonkeyDust: upgrading.  This is a server running pretty solidly.  Didn't think I'd need to upgrade it just to install new root certs.  Although I'm happy to.
[13:19] <madura> OerHeks: ok thanks
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> RobZ1  better ask in #ubuntu-server, then
[13:19] <huhmaster> does anyone know a good linux based MMORPG ?
[13:19] <RobZ1> MonkeyDust: thanks man
[13:20] <huhmaster> does anyone know a good linux based MMORPG ?
[13:20] <_XMENDES> anyone??
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> huhmaster  wrong channel
[13:21] <jaslap> huhmaster: Dungeons and Dragons through a terminal based chat program
[13:21] <huhmaster> ok MonkeyDust and jaslap, thanks
[13:22] <b9hash17> hya all
[13:24] <b9hash17> Does anyone know how to package a program you've compiled with C so that someone can install and run it from the command line without using the ./ prefix?
[13:28] <jimrees> Just ran update-manager on Goobuntu laptop, now ovpn stopped working, says I need to install OpenVPN cert, go/openvpnuser doesn't help.   Command?
[13:28] <jimrees> woops, wrong channel....
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> b9hash17  better ask in #c or #c++
[13:29] <prufrock> b9hash17, checkinstall worked for me in a similar situation
[13:31] <Dr_willis> b9hash17,  the ./command has Nothing to do with the executable.. it has to do with the users default PATH
[13:31] <b9hash17> thanks guys.
[13:31] <Dr_willis> the 'current directory' is not in the default path for security reasons
[13:35] <Linda> Nokia E63 mobile is connected to my system using data cable. But it is not getting mounted?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> some phones have a menu item to enable data, charge,mdeia,other modes whebn plugged in
[13:35] <Linda> Dr_willis, that is set as mass storage. Still it's not getting mounted
[13:36] <Dr_willis> check dmesg output, try to mount it by hand.
[13:36] <Dr_willis> is this an android phone?
[13:39] <mikecmpbll> hmpf, I've built a ubuntu VM, but for some reason I can't ssh to server B from it. I can ssh to other servers from it, and I can ssh from server B back to the VM. I get connection time out
[13:39] <foo357> Hello, I need to install some software that requires libfreetype, and freetype-config. When I run the configure script for it, this dependecy is unfulfilled
[13:39] <Dr_willis> !find libfreetype
[13:39] <foo357> is there a package that includes freetype-config?
[13:40] <Dr_willis> !find freetype-config
[13:41] <excervo> hello guys, is there anyway i can install Apple IOS on virtualbox?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> Err.. the Phone OS?  Not that i know of..
[13:42] <Dr_willis> OS-X can work i hear..
[13:43] <compdoc> maybe if you run some sort of IOS SDK
[13:44] <noecc> Where is the 32-bit i386 md5sum for 12.04.1?  It is not listed at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.1/release/MD5SUMS
[13:45] <michielbrink> juuuh I have now a update for ubuntu 12.10
[13:45] <Sachiru> Uh, currently reading up in linux news.
[13:45] <Dr_willis>  #ubuntu+1 for 12.10
[13:45] <Sachiru> Can someone please explain to me what Reiser4's "wandering log" means?
[13:45] <excervo> where can i get osx compatible wit virtualbox?
[13:46] <Pici> excervo: #vbox is the support channel for virtualbox, please ask in there.
[13:46] <tsimpson> noecc: why would it be, look at the files there. the i386 ISO is on releases.ubuntu.com, not cdimage
[13:46] <Dr_willis> excervo,  not really a ubuntu support issue. google for 'hackintosh'
[13:46] <genii-around> excervo: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=31104
[13:46] <excervo> Thanks guys
[13:48] <Pip__> Hi, where can I find the default mplayer config to edit?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> try 'locate mplayer' should be in /etc/ i recall
[13:50] <freewayzify> helo guys
[13:50] <freewayzify> hey brian
[13:51] <Pip__> will do thanks.
[13:51] <nishttal2> hi I just installed Ubuntu server 12.04 .. how do i set a static IP
[13:52] <Pip__> yeah, in /etc/ I thought it was in /etc/default for some reason
[13:52] <Pip__> thanks again
[13:56] <chris92> can anyone tell me a good IRC client for xubuntu besides XChat? (xchat s*cks)
[13:56] <xangua> !irc | chris92
[13:56] <chris92> thanks ^^
[13:56] <Dr_willis> xchat-gnome is lacking. xchat is very good.  theres also weechat and irssi and perhaps a dozen other irc clients in the repositories
[13:56] <Linda> Dr_willis, the o/p of dmesg is pasted here, http://pastebin.com/YfCkwUx4
[13:58] <Dr_willis> looks like its seeing it as a usb-modem Linda  not a usb-storage device.
[13:59] <Dr_willis> [ 1709.906061] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: Nokia
[13:59] <Dr_willis> [ 1709.921103] cdc_acm 4-1:1.10: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[14:05] <noecc> tsimpson: Thanks.  How would one know of that link after downloading from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop?
[14:06] <mike_sun_> hi, I'm trying to install the adobe SourceCodePro font and doesn't work, my font view closed and show me an error, any idea?
[14:06] <mike_sun_> is therea another way to install fonts?
[14:07] <Dr_willis> i just copy them to my users .fonts directory mike_sun_
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> mike_sun_  adobe directly in linux?
[14:07] <write> hey there guys, i just installed Lubuntu, but there is no sound icon, i get no sound from youtube or sistem notifications etc ... whats the deal ? :-s
[14:07] <mike_sun_> yes, look this: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-s-new-open-source-font-for-coding-1718882.html
[14:08] <RFleming> Greetings and salutations!
[14:08] <mike_sun_> Dr_willis: I don't have the .fonts folder
[14:08] <RFleming> I'm looking to shave a couple of hours off of a disk clone.  I've already used DD to make a raw disk image of a drive, and am now using rsync to transfer it over to a virtual machine.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> so .... make it.. ;)
[14:09] <mike_sun_> the ubuntu will read this folder?
[14:09] <tsimpson> noecc: it doesn't mention releases. or cdimage., so one wouldn't
[14:09] <RFleming> I'd like to know if rsync is transferring the file sequentially, so I can start the DD clone on the new disk while the file is still syncing.
[14:09] <Dr_willis> Users can install fonts in their own personal .fonts directory   yes...
[14:09] <Dr_willis> !fonts
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> RFleming  use rsync --progress
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> RFleming  like ike: rsync -avv --progress [source][dest]
[14:10] <Dr_willis> does rsync have a compress option?  that would help if the network speeds are the bottle neck.
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> -z compresse in rsync
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> (-z meaing zip or zo, i guess)
[14:11] <jiltdil> How to chat via termainl , i have two  system , how to chat
[14:11] <RFleming> MonkeyDust: Thanks, but that wasn't the question :)
[14:11] <Dr_willis> of course if you had 'zeroed' the free space on the hard disk befor making the image, it would compress a lot better. ;)
[14:16] <write> uhn, guys ? any expert in sound issues? :-s
[14:16] <bazhang> !audio > write
[14:17] <write> bazhang: what is volume applet? i have no sound icon, no sound menu in preferences, nothing
[14:21] <moory> uh...I want to know how to upgrade my Linux Mint 12 to Mint 13?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> ask in the Mint channel.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> !mint
[14:21] <bazhang> moory, mint is not supported here. ask them
[14:22] <ArletteC> Why Mint isn't supported here?
[14:22] <moory> oh, the Mint channel can't connect on my computer.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> ArletteC  it's a different distro
[14:24] <moory> Anyway,thank you
[14:24] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder why the mint guys dont make their irc chat clients default to their channel.
[14:24] <chris92> is it normal that I hear some cracking sounds when I open sites like youtube, where a flash content is?
[14:24] <RFleming> ArletteC: simple fact... Mint is Mint, Ubuntu is Ubuntu.
[14:25] <ArletteC> ...
[14:25] <RFleming> ArletteC: Mint is both Ubuntu based AND Debian based, depending on which one you're using.
[14:25] <ArletteC> I using Ubuntu :)
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> ArletteC  mint has gone its own way, more independet from ubuntu
[14:25] <ArletteC> But...
[14:25] <Dr_willis> the mint support forums/site has a link to their mint channel in a web based irc client.
[14:26] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[14:26] <ArletteC> All right ^^
[14:26] <Dr_willis> http://community.linuxmint.com/#  under the community 'tab/button'
[14:28]  * RFleming just wishes he could get Ubuntu installed on his USB hard drive without having grub issues.
[14:28] <gordonjcp> RFleming: what "issues" are you having?
[14:28] <Dr_willis> RFleming,  Hmm. I install to usb HD all the time. with no grub issues. I just make sure the installer puts grub on the sdX of the usb
[14:28] <gordonjcp> yup
[14:28] <RFleming> gordonjcp: grub reporting that it's out of disk
[14:28] <bsx> wladi has quit (Quit: Saliendo)
[14:29] <gordonjcp> RFleming: paste the error message *verbatim*
[14:29] <bazhang> !paste | RFleming
[14:29] <AdvoWork> you know nohup, ive got a guide that recommends doing this, is it literally open terminal, type nohup then carry on as normal?
[14:29] <[deXter]> RFleming, I've found it way faster to just run a persistent live image instead of doing an actual install, while running from a USB.
[14:31] <mike_sun> now my new fonts works, thanks ; )
[14:31] <RFleming> Dr_willis: I don't have the exact error, but it was pretty sparse.  Basically I see.  Error: hd0 out of disk ... then am dropped to a grub rescue prompt
[14:32] <RFleming> my last attempt was last weekend.  Been too busy to try again.
[14:33] <RFleming> [deXter]: got a how-to on creating a persistent live image? :)
[14:33] <bazhang> !usb | RFleming
[14:35] <RFleming> beauties... less fuss... turn my 1tb usb drive into an Ubuntu install. :)
[14:37] <bsx_>  najme has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[14:40] <MASTERPIECE> have some chanel from bulgaria
[14:40] <MASTERPIECE> for ubuntu
[14:41] <RFleming> [deXter]: say... is the persistent install updateable?
[14:42] <DJones> !bg | MASTERPIECE
[14:42] <[deXter]> RFleming, Yeah, but you can't do a kernel update. (well, you can but you'd have to update it manually.)
[14:43] <RFleming> [deXter]: how difficult is it to upgrade, say from 12.04 to 12.10?
[14:44] <cocainefree> hi ppli
[14:44] <cocainefree> have cocaine for u
[14:44] <cocainefree> from boliviamsg me
[14:44] <RFleming> wtf?
[14:44] <DJones> cocainefree: Wrong network and channel
[14:45] <[deXter]> RFleming, It would not be worth it, due to the number of read/writes involved. Will be quicker, simpler and cleaner to just download the ISO again and replace the files on the USB
[14:45] <cocainefree> COCAINE CHEAP BOLIVIAN
[14:45] <DJones> cocainefree: Stop that
[14:45] <cocainefree>  ok ok :)
[14:45] <cocainefree> sorry
[14:48] <Kroach> how can I disable brightness control in GNOME?
[14:49] <foo357> Hello, I want to run a script after a delay of an amoutn of time, for example 1 hour. How do I do that on command line?
[14:49] <Dr_willis> sleep SOMENIUMER && command
[14:50] <geirha> or if it doesn't require a terminal, and you're not interested in its output, you could schedule it with the at command
[14:51] <AdvoWork> you know nohup, ive got a guide that recommends doing this, is it literally open terminal, type nohup then carry on as normal?
[14:51] <geirha> AdvoWork: No, nohup runs a command and makes it ignore SIGHUP. That's it. Not very useful.
[14:51] <Dr_willis> nohup Syntax:
[14:51] <Dr_willis> nohup command-name &
[14:52] <Dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/nohup-execute-commands-after-you-exit-from-a-shell-prompt.html
[14:52] <pomeisl> !hu
[14:52] <Dr_willis> echo "pullftp.sh" | at now + 1 minute
[14:52] <Dr_willis> run a command 1 min from now... ;P
[14:52] <ben72> I get this error when trying to run php from shell and I have memory_limit set to -1 in php/cli/php.ini.. PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 7680 bytes)
[14:53] <AdvoWork> geirha, Dr_willis ahh ok, this installation could take > 5 hours, so don't want to take the risk of the ssh session closing, if for example it does clone, and i ssh back in, can i recover it/see where it left off?
[14:53] <geirha> AdvoWork: you need screen or tmux for that
[14:54] <Dr_willis> AdvoWork,  this is where you learn to use screen, and tmux :)
[14:55] <Dr_willis> ssh and screen/tmux go together like Peanut Butter and Honey. ;P
[14:55] <chris92> nice comparison :D
[14:55] <pomeisl_> sl
[14:56] <geirha> AdvoWork: ssh -t user@host 'screen -rd myScreen || screen -S myScreen'
[14:56] <RFleming> Dr_willis: I like this tmux cheatsheet... a github gist. https://gist.github.com/1967800
[14:56] <geirha> AdvoWork: Run that and start your command. If your ssh connection dies, run it again and it should give you back the virtual terminal
[14:57] <Dr_willis> tmux i think reconnects to the last session automatically.
[14:57] <maddhacker> hello world!
[14:57] <Dr_willis> byobu is a nicer 'front end' to screen and tmux also.. makes it a little easier to use
[14:58] <RFleming> Dr_willis: don't forget about the BFC ;)
[14:58] <Dr_willis> cant say ive ever used BFC.
[14:58] <AdvoWork> geirha, impressed, i like that thanks
[14:58] <RFleming> Dr_willis: Big F*****g Clock.
[14:58] <Dr_willis> I only use tmux when im sshd in from my cellphone these days. ;)
[14:58] <maddhacker> hello world!
[14:58] <RFleming> play on Doom BFG :)
[14:59] <pomeisl> !hu
[15:00] <digitig> Hi. I need help mounting NAS. I can connect to it using Nautilus "Connect to Server" but that doesn't seem to put it in my filesystem (if it does I can't find it) and I have to do it every time.  I'm trying mount commands like "sudo mount -t cifs '//<IP_ADDRESS>:/Tim' /media/tim -o uuid=1000,gid=1000 but I get a long error about possible problems beginning "wrong fs type". Can anybody help?
[15:01] <ehi> salve
[15:01] <digitig> Ok, that emoticon was a colon and a slash.
[15:01] <mikubuntu> ever since i added edubuntu packages to my system, i have to input my wireless password everytime i boot up -- is this a known issue?
[15:01] <ehi> file system has an incompatible feature enabled. Compatible features are has_journal, dir_index. filetype, sparse_super and large_file. Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.
[15:01] <AdvoWork> geirha, when does the screen session die then?
[15:02] <geirha> AdvoWork: when you exit the shell it's running
[15:02] <AdvoWork> but i can reconnect back to it with the same command, or only if its exit not-manually
[15:02] <geirha> AdvoWork: e.g. after the long running command is done, type exit or hit Ctrl+d
[15:02] <AdvoWork> ah ok, thought so, thanks
[15:03] <geirha> AdvoWork: Then again, you can just leave it and reuse it for whatever else
[15:03] <AdvoWork> geirha, one more thing sorry, i assume if i use that command to connect to ssh server1, if i ssh from that to another server, will all of it be remembered or will i need to do the screen again?
[15:04] <Dr_willis> screen stays alive till you kill it
[15:05] <geirha> AdvoWork: Do read some docs on screen or tmux. You won't regret it. See the /topic of #screen and/or #tmux for some good tutorials/guides
[15:06] <pomeisl> !hu
[15:07] <lotus> hey, I want to be able to use mail() from my localhost -- yet, when I do it apparently doesn't go through.  I've ran sudo apt-get install postfix -- what's left?
[15:07] <rlw980> Can I use EyeToy as a webcam?
[15:07] <bazhang> !webcam | rlw980 read this
[15:08] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  i have befor.
[15:08] <rlw980> bazhang: Thanks
[15:08] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  i think theres differnt versions of the EyeToy
[15:08] <rlw980> ubottu: Thanks
[15:08] <rlw980> ubottu: Reallly?
[15:09] <rlw980> Dr_willis: have you
[15:09] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  i have befor.  yes... ages ago.
[15:10] <rlw980> Dr_willis: can i yes or no?
[15:10] <digitig> bump
[15:10] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  I have BEFOR.. so YES they have worked for me.. Plug the silly thing in and see...
[15:10] <rlw980> Floodbot1: ???
[15:10] <no_gravity> Hello! I just noticed some insanity while trying Mint and wonder if this also happens in Ubuntu now: When you choose germany as your location during install, it creates german directory names. So "Desktop" isnt called "Desktop" but "Arbeitsfläche". Does this come from the latest Debian release or is it an invention of Ubuntu or Mint?
[15:10] <piecemkr> rlw980: google it -.-
[15:11] <bazhang> !google > piecemkr
[15:11] <Dr_willis> no_gravity,  localization of those names have been around in ubuntu for some time.  No idea if debian does it or not
[15:11] <RFleming> Dr_willis: my webcam does funny things in Ubuntu... When it goes to take a picture (like when installing Ubuntu), I end up with the picture offset by 90 degrees, with my right side on the left half, and my left side on the right half.
[15:11] <rlw980> piecemkr: If I go a do that, what is the point of this chat service then ;-)
[15:11] <chris92> no_gravity: I can confirm that this also happens on ubuntu... my desktop is also called Arbeitsfläche
[15:12] <Dr_willis> RFleming,  i had a laptop that inverted the image. :)
[15:12] <RFleming> Dr_willis: nice! :)
[15:12] <rlw980> Dr_willis: Ok, what do I do install the drivers for iy
[15:12] <RFleming> Ubuntu is so artistic :)
[15:12] <no_gravity> Dr_willis, chris92: ok. so let me try to find out what debian says about it. If possible I would like to avoid a distribution that does this.
[15:12] <bkc_> no_gravity: yes, mine was called "Skrivbord" (Swedish)
[15:12] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  i had to install Nothing..  I plugged it in and it worked..
[15:12] <rlw980> RFleming: I agree too =)
[15:12] <piecemkr> rlw980: because it's simplier? i googled it and bam! answer is second link
[15:12] <Dr_willis> no_gravity,  you want to avoid a diserto that customuzes things to the proper language?
[15:13] <bazhang> piecemkr, dont suggest google it here. ever.
[15:13] <rlw980> Dr_willis: Did it work, web you test it online, like online chat room
[15:13] <bkc_> Dr_willis: the directories should be the same on any language...
[15:13] <chris92> should be, yes, but they arent
[15:13] <bkc_> indeed
[15:13] <rlw980> piecemkr: Still, this is the best place for support
[15:14] <Dr_willis> rlw980,  it took pictures and video...  so it worked.. Now IF it worked on those silly flash-chat things in web browsers no idea  Flash and working webcams often have issues in linux.
[15:14] <jrib> no_gravity: that's been around for a very long time... see ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[15:14] <write> guys, really :( i cant make soun work on my recent Lubuntu install :(
[15:14] <chris92> bkc_, Dr_willis: If i knew it earlier, I would've chosen English as an install language
[15:14] <no_gravity> Dr_willis: yes. i like my filesystem to be the same across all my machines. and when i talk to somebody - from whichever country - i want to be able to tell him "look into directory X" without language barriers.
[15:14] <no_gravity> jrib: my debian 6 machines dont do it.
[15:14] <write> the card is recognised, the modules are installed...
[15:14] <bazhang> write, open a terminal, type alsamixer, set PCM to 80 and make sure the rest are not muted
[15:15] <rlw980> Dr_willis: Oh right, because I just wanted to know if I could use it or not.
[15:15] <jrib> no_gravity: xdg-user-dirs package is responsible for it and you can control its behavior with /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf .  I don't know if debian installs it by default or not
[15:15] <write> bazhang: PCM ?
[15:15] <bazhang> write, open a terminal
[15:15] <write> noting is muted, auto-mute is disabled
[15:16] <write> everything is upto 100%
[15:16] <bazhang> then set PCM to 80, and NOT max
[15:16] <bazhang> write, dont set to MAX
[15:16] <write> what is PCM
[15:16] <write> ive set everything to 80%
[15:17] <no_gravity> jrib: might be easier to just choose english for everything when installing an ubuntu based distro in the future. but if i can avoid it (read: if debian doesnt do it) i will rather stay away from the whole issue.
[15:17] <digitig> Anybody?
[15:17] <write> still no sound :( the card is recongnised... volumes are unmuted.. what am i missing?
[15:18] <bazhang> digitig, anybody what
[15:18] <Dr_willis> !anyone
[15:18] <jrib> no_gravity: #debian can help with that I guess
[15:18] <digitig> I asked a question a while back about how to mount NAS.
[15:18] <piecemkr> jrib: he's on #debian right now ;)
[15:18] <no_gravity> jrib: im talking to them. didnt get an answer so far.
[15:18] <r3boot> anybody here with ubuntu preseeding knowledge? It seems that some preseed variables do not influence d-i and break automated installs
[15:19] <no_gravity> jrib: they always get really sore when you mention other OSes...
[15:19] <write> bazhang: any more ideas? im so tired, did a plenty of tries, now i am at a fresh install, wanna do this well
[15:19] <boubakr92> Hi,
[15:19] <Dr_willis> if the user selects english as their language, then it should change the stuff to the english names.
[15:19] <jrib> no_gravity: I don't see why you'd mention other OSes.  Just ask if xdg-user-dirs is installed/enabled by default. And the /real/ debian channel is on irc.oftc.net :P
[15:20] <bazhang> write, what sound card. did you try setting via the pavucontrol or other pulse settings
[15:21] <no_gravity> jrib: im an honest soul :) so i mentioned that i noticed it on mint and got confirmations that its like that on ubuntu and would like to know if it is a Debian or Ubuntu invention.
[15:21] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys i want run 32-bit java in 64-machine please guide me how to do this
[15:21] <jrib> no_gravity: well the xdg-user-dirs package is from debian originally; whether it's installed and enabled by default is the real question
[15:21] <write> i heard pulseaudio is buggy, and i dont wanna install it.. the card is HDA ATI SB
[15:21] <dhanasekaran> jdk1.7.0_07/bin# ./java -version
[15:21] <dhanasekaran> -bash: ./java: No such file or directory
[15:21] <piecemkr> no_gravity: Im running squeeze right now and I don't have localisation issues
[15:22] <write> bazhang: i dont have pavucontrol, but ive tried with xfce ...
[15:22] <mercano> Привет
[15:22] <write> bazhang: but with no luck
[15:22] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys i want run 32-bit java in 64-machine please guide me how to do this
[15:22] <no_gravity> piecemkr: is "squeeze" the same as "debian testing"?
[15:22] <bazhang> !ru | mercano
[15:22] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys i want run 32-bit java in 64-machine please guide me how to do this
[15:22] <piecemkr> no_gravity: it's current debian stable
[15:22] <bazhang> !repeat | dhanasekaran
[15:22] <no_gravity> piecemkr: "current stable" = debian 6?
[15:22] <piecemkr> no_gravity: yup
[15:23] <thebananafish> dhanasekaran: sudo apt-get install ia32-sun-java6-bin
[15:23] <no_gravity> piecemkr: yeah, i run that myself. no localisation issues.
[15:23] <bazhang> thebananafish, thats not correct
[15:23] <lotus> LF 2 soj offering windforce w/ 40%ed /msg lotus
[15:23] <no_gravity> So nobody here runs testing? Or nobody runs something else then english as the language?
[15:23] <digitig> I'll try again. I can connect to my NAS via nautilus "Connect to Server", server "<IP_ADDRESS>", share "Tim", no user details needed. What do I need to put in my /etc/fstab to mount this automatically on //media/tim ?
[15:23] <bazhang> lotus, wrong channel
[15:23] <dhanasekaran> thebananafish, thanks i am trying in ubuntu 12.04 64-bit
[15:23] <chris92> im running german, but xubuntu, not debian
[15:23] <lotus> bazhang: sry ty~
[15:24] <bazhang> no_gravity, there is no testing
[15:24] <no_gravity> bazhang: what do you mean?
[15:25] <write> bazhang: any more ideas? im so tired, did a plenty of tries, now i am at a fresh install, wanna do this well
[15:25] <no_gravity> bazhang: ah, yes im in the wrong channel.
[15:25] <bazhang> no_gravity, this is not debain. there is no testing
[15:25] <write> sorry, keyboard got stuck
[15:25] <write> ive installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol
[15:25] <write> but pulseaudio wont start.. the terminal just waits
[15:25] <no_gravity> bazhang: yupp
[15:25] <bazhang> write, installed pulseaudio? what distro are you using
[15:26] <write> bazhang: how can i find that out for you ?
[15:26] <bazhang> !version | write
[15:26] <usr13> digitig: NAS?
[15:26] <write> bazhang: lubuntu 12.04
[15:27] <digitig> @usr13: "Network Attached Storage"
[15:27] <Respite212> hello everyone
[15:28] <chris92> hello Respite212
[15:28] <Respite212> Im a new user to Ubuntu, I just migrated from Windows.
[15:28] <usr13> digitig: Ok, well, I'm still in the dark.  What is it? How is it connected?  Is it NFS or Samba, or?
[15:29] <write> bazhang: im in pavu control, everything looks oke,... but no sound :-s
[15:29] <Respite212> I got some questions if anyone be willing to help me?
[15:29] <chris92> Respite212: just ask your questions =)
[15:29] <Respite212> ah ok. Not sure what are the courtesy's here.
[15:29] <ikonia> Respite212: if they are about ubuntu, just ask
[15:30] <ikonia> Respite212: this channel is free flowing ubuntu support discussion
[15:30] <digitig> usr13: It's plugged in to the same ethernet router as my computer.
[15:30] <usr13> digitig: Sorry, I don't know what Network Attached Storage is.
[15:30] <rlw980> Respite212: Just ask
[15:30] <rlw980> chris92: yes, ask your questions
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> usr13  it's an external harddisk with network capabilities
[15:31] <digitig> usr13: It's a disk drive with an Ethernet connection, so everything on the network can see it.
[15:31] <chris92> rlw980: huh? didnt say I had any questions :P
[15:31] <write> bazhang: just rebooted, everything in pavucontrol looked setup ok ... what could be the problem /?
[15:31]  * MonkeyDust wants a NAS
[15:31] <rlw980> chris92: Oh, sorry buddy =P
[15:32] <chris92> rlw980: np ^^
[15:32] <Respite212> great thanks! Here goes: I got 2 ssd harddrives (non-raid). I want a fresh install of unbuntu with no other operating systems on any of the 2 drives. What I want to do is customize an installation with custom partitions. I read up on root, /usr, /var, /tmp, /home /boot and such. However I am do not know the difference between primary, logical, extention and which file system type to use for those partitions, as well as the size o
[15:32] <rlw980> chris92: Anyways talking about a question, I've got a question?
[15:32] <bazhang> write, not sure about lubuntu; did not know they didnt have pulse default installed
[15:32] <digitig> MonkeyDust: I has a NAS. Wants connection. </lolcats>
[15:32] <usr13> digitig: Well, I don't know about making a fastab entry for it.  I think you need to just keep on accessing it the way you are now.  Maybe someone else knows of a method of consistantly mounting such a device.
[15:32] <write> damn! made it
[15:32] <whoever>  hi all, is there a place othere thn /var/run/<program name>/ where pids are stored, ie: when i start and stop lighttpd there is a pid stored somewhere else othere than /var/run/lighttp/. can someone asist me in finding this phantom pid
[15:33] <write> bazhang:  thanks, everything works great now, event the icon in bar :) thank you
[15:33] <chris92> rlw980: im not that experienced in ubuntu either, rather a newbie as well :P
[15:33] <rlw980> chris92: Dammm, lol ok
[15:33] <rlw980> chris92: Welcome newbie ;-)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> NAS is ok , but using ntfs on an external drive is just as effective and all pcs on a network will see and have access to the media/data
[15:33] <chris92> rlw980: thx :)
[15:34] <rlw980> Hi Ubuntu Loversssss!!, I've got a question,
[15:34] <digitig> usr13: The trouble with accessing it as I am is that it doesn't seem to appear in the filesystem (at least, I can't find it). I have to work on my local drives then drag files to and from the NAS using Nautilus.
[15:35] <ikonia> Respite212: there is no difference for primary / logical partitions, and seperate /usr partitions is a legacy idea for when disks where much smaller
[15:35] <rlw980> Can I download programs like .exe .rar, etc
[15:35] <ikonia> Respite212: you shouldn't need to do that and there is pretty much no advantage in using seperate partititions like that
[15:36] <chris92> rlw980: you can download them, but you won't be able to use .exe programs naturally
[15:36] <ikonia> rlw980: no, .exe files are windows executables, rar files are compressed files, so sure
[15:36] <ikonia> rlw980: are you new to ubuntu ?
[15:36] <blackshirt> rlw980,sure
[15:36] <usr13> digitig: Still not enough info.  It's just a problem I've not encountered before and I can't think of any solution.
[15:36] <rlw980> ikonia: No, why
[15:37] <rlw980> chris92 why not
[15:37] <usr13> digitig: If I had such equipment here, I could experiment with it, but I don't.
[15:37] <ikonia> rlw980: I was just going to give you some introduction information for ubuntu if you where new, I was asking due to your questions
[15:37] <rlw980> blackshirt: How?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> rlw980, yes , the .exex file will need wine or a virtual box of some kind with windows to run them
[15:37] <BluesKaj> err exe
[15:37] <Respite212> ikonia: Basically I want all drivers and system files on one disk with a small partition dedicated to work programs such as text editors, excel and powerpoints, but then I also want a partition on my second disk to be dedicated for gaming. How would I set that up?
[15:37] <ikonia> rlw980: what exactly is it you want to download
[15:37] <digitig> usr13: Ok, I'll try an email forum instead.
[15:37] <usr13> digitig: Ok.  Sorry.
[15:37] <ikonia> Respite212: when you say gaming, do you mean a windows install ?
[15:38] <rlw980> BlueKaj: What the program interface like?
[15:38] <Respite212> ikonia: No, pure ubuntu.
[15:38] <ikonia> Respite212: then why do you need seperate partitions ?
[15:38] <ikonia> Respite212: what use is that going to be ?
[15:39] <Respite212> ikonia: Hmm, I guess my primary question is, how do I download and install to a specific drive?
[15:39] <rlw980> ikonia: Anti-virus, networking managering support software, remote desktop connection, etc.
[15:39] <ikonia> Respite212: download a drive ???
[15:39] <ikonia> Respite212: a drive is a disk ?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !wine > rlw980
[15:39] <chris92> ikonia: re-read the question ;)
[15:39] <ikonia> Respite212: well a.) you don't use antivirus the same as windows - you certainly don't download a windows question
[15:39] <ikonia> windows antivirus sorry
[15:39] <ikonia> chris92: who's ?
[15:40] <Respite212> ikonia: huh?
[15:40] <usr13> Respite212: Your ideas for separate partitions are a bit out of the ordinary.  I might suggest 3:  swap  /  and /home
[15:40] <usr13> Respite212: It's the way I do it.
[15:40] <chris92> ikonia: Respite's  ;) he wanted to download sth to a specific drive, not download a drive =)
[15:40] <rlw980> BluesKaj: Ok =-)
[15:40] <ikonia> I see
[15:40] <thebananafish> I didn't know you could download a drive, but you can download more ram.. www.downloadmoreram.com ;)
[15:41] <escott> Respite212, /usr/share/games contains most of the larger files related to games (textures and the like) you could put that on a separate partition
[15:41] <Respite212> ikonia: reason I ask how I should partition is because I want everything organized, root goes to root, /usr goes to user, /home/name goes to /home/name
[15:41] <ikonia> thebananafish: please don't post that sort of junk
[15:41] <ikonia> Respite212: what do you mean "user" goes to /usr
[15:41] <ikonia> Respite212: pretty much everything is installed in "/usr"
[15:42] <Froward> how do I see all Unity lenses that I have installed? I am trying to remove a Rotten Tomatos lense that crashes constantly.
[15:42] <Respite212> ikonia: sorry that was a typo.
[15:42] <abhijitgavas> hi, i am in a big trouble. please help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/194090/recovering-data-from
[15:43] <paulens12> hello
[15:43] <_0x783czar> Respite212: do you mean you want those files on their own partition?
[15:43] <knight_terror> I think, respite is trying to change links of those specific folders to another storage so that it wont take that much of a space in the root folder
[15:43] <ikonia> abhijitgavas: data is gone
[15:43] <Respite212> _Ox783czar: yes.
[15:43] <ikonia> Respite212: your approach is flawed and won't work with any unix like system
[15:43] <Respite212> I am working with rather small ssd drives and every gig is precious
[15:43] <_0x783czar> well that's a good practice, what kind of drive setup do you have?
[15:44] <ikonia> Respite212: pretty much all binaries, office, work, games, etc will go into /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[15:44] <abhijitgavas> ikonia: is there nothing i can try?
[15:44] <ikonia> Respite212: all personal data will live in /home
[15:44] <ikonia> abhijitgavas: try what you like, I believe that data is gone
[15:45] <paulens12> i need a little advice... i want to dual boot ubuntu with windows but i have probs with partitioning... i have 2 partitions and i want to take some gigabytes from both of them
[15:45] <knight_terror> respite, I know the idea I dont know if this will help, since you can actually edit the links of this folder, by just change your settings, try to search the net since it is there already
[15:45] <knight_terror> paulene, different hard drive or just one HDD?
[15:45] <paulens12> one hdd
[15:46] <abhijitgavas> ikonia: what if i format it back to ntfs and try from windows? any chance that would work?
[15:46] <paulens12> but when i shrink two partitions, the free space spans my 2nd partition
[15:46] <ikonia> abhijitgavas: no
[15:46] <Guest42122> ciao a tutti
[15:46] <Guest42122> lista!
[15:46] <Respite212> knight_terror: I did search the net and found a pretty neat linux tip's on disk partitioning, problem is, it deals with workstations and mail servers.
[15:46] <Guest42122> list!
[15:46] <pynix_> newer....
[15:46] <knight_terror> paulene, ill assume you have windows for gaming, and linux just to get the know the system, i will suggest 75% inw windows space and just 25% in ur ubuntu since it does not require that much of a space
[15:46] <paulens12> and so i can't connect them into one partition, i can only make 2 separate partitions
[15:46] <chris92> abhijitgavas: once formatting with a different filesystem, you can be 99% sure that your data is gone, formatting a second time with another filesystem will make it worse
[15:47] <_0x783czar> Respite212: OK, what sort of drive setup do you have?
[15:47] <Froward> okay, lenses/scopes are stored in /usr/share/unity/lenses but I can't delete or rename the files. how do I uninstall them? I don't know the exact name of the package.
[15:47] <paulens12> yeah but i have windows NOT for gaming...
[15:47] <Respite212> drive setup? 2 x 120 gigbyte ssd sata drives.
[15:47] <paulens12> actually i don't play computer games much
[15:47] <_0x783czar> Respite212: OK, how many partitions do you want?
[15:47] <pynix_> .....
[15:47] <ikonia> Respite212: that's a LOT of space for a linux install
[15:48] <_0x783czar> Respite212: or are you asking how you should partition?
[15:48] <ikonia> Respite212: you should be fine with just one of those 120GB disks
[15:48] <pynix_> ..........
[15:48] <knight_terror> hmm,, i have total of 7 HDD installed in my PC, and respite, what I do is just create short cut links, about downloading files, you an just set the settings, Idont get it, what you mean you are having an error to your drives?
[15:48] <chris92> i got a 80GB U-ATA drive here, so 240gb should be plenty :D
[15:48] <abhijitgavas> chris92: thanks for the info :(
[15:48] <paulens12> so, i have two pieces of free space. 1st is 30gb and 2nd is 36gb
[15:48] <Respite212> _0x783czar: How I should partition.
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !partition > Respite212
[15:49] <Respite212> I know I need a root, swap, home, usr but not sure if I need anything else like /tmp or /boot.
[15:49] <pynix_> hide join and quit...
[15:49] <ikonia> Respite212: you don't want usr
[15:49] <paulens12> how much space is reccommended for running ubuntu with some apps?
[15:49] <pynix_> f_ck...
[15:49] <ikonia> pynix_: unacceptable language, stop it
[15:49] <actionParsnip> Respite212: i suggest you only use /home, / and swap
[15:49] <_0x783czar> Respite212: OK, well I'm not sure how much data you plan on having, but you've got a good amount to work with.
[15:49] <pynix_> sorry...
[15:50] <paulens12> oh and, i could use the 2nd part of space to install apps?
[15:50] <paulens12> should i mount it as /usr folder?
[15:50] <knight_terror> paulene you can run ubuntu in 10 gig actually, it wil ldpend to you, but the minimum is 20gig atleast-- with basic utility
[15:50] <_0x783czar> Respite212: I imagine the reason you want to partition is so that you can get the most out of both drives?  Or is there some other reason you want to divide your filesystem on multiple partitions?
[15:50] <paulens12> yyeah so...
[15:50] <actionParsnip> paulens12: my / partition is 10Gb and has about 4Gb used. I have a separate /home partition
[15:50] <ikonia> Respite212: you will be fine with 3 partitions, / /home and swap
[15:50] <paulens12> can you tell me, which folder sonsumes most of space?
[15:50] <ikonia> Respite212: you'll find it easier to manage and cause less problems
[15:51] <paulens12> root? or usr?
[15:51] <actionParsnip> paulens12: /usr holds most
[15:51] <paulens12> oh
[15:51] <pynix_> python3 process is too slow.........
[15:51] <knight_terror> respite, you can just use 2 partition
[15:51] <pynix_> software-center is still python2........
[15:52] <Respite212> _Ox783czar: Well I am a previous window user here, so I want to be organized.
[15:52] <paulens12> ok so i guess it would be perfect, if i use one partition to install, and mount another as /usr?
[15:52] <pynix_> in beta2...
[15:52] <paulens12> or not? lol
[15:52] <pynix_> lol
[15:52] <pynix_> what is this?
[15:52] <ikonia> Respite212: it really doesn't work like windows, so it's best to not use it as a reference
[15:52] <bazhang> pynix_, stop it
[15:52] <chris92> paulens12: one partition is enough
[15:52] <paulens12> umm
[15:53] <paulens12> my one partition is 30 gb...
[15:53] <chris92> paulens12: dont forget tho, that you need a swap partition as well