[00:00] <Lee_Ubun> i'm going to download and install 8.04 i'll be back
[00:00] <corey> is it safe to remove /usr/share/doc?
[00:00] <Gnosiz> Oh, thanks!
[00:00] <jrib> corey: why do you want to?  Those files are part of packages and actually contain useful information
[00:00] <corey> jrib, my disk is only 4gb and it's taking up a large portion of my usable space.
[00:00] <wilhart_> ubottu: that doesnt help me abit
[00:01] <Gnea> hrm, why won't playdeb.net work...
[00:01] <jleeperry> Is it possible for Win XP to read files on my 'buntu half of my computer?
[00:01] <PsychoMari0> can i route all traffic from a chroot environment through a virtual interface?
[00:01] <jrib> !ext3 | jleeperry
[00:01] <PsychoMari0> jleeperry: if you install ext4 drivers
[00:01] <jleeperry> Um...wait, okay, what?
[00:02] <BluesKaj> jrib, only if your ubuntu partition is ext2 or lower
[00:02] <rhodan> Is there a way to know how much progress my distribution upgrade made? In percent or estimated time?
[00:02] <jleeperry> Install ext3 or ext4 drivers?
[00:02] <naerey> http://www.notionink.in/images/feature/adamimg.png not ubuntu? :/
[00:02] <rww> fs-driver hasn't worked with Ubuntu's default blocksize in a while, iirc.
[00:02] <mcurran> Anyone ever get a TRAP 0000006 error when trying to chainload windows xp with grub?
[00:02] <jrib> BluesKaj: ext3 works. And while I haven't tried using with ext4, I don't see why it wouldn't
[00:02] <jleeperry> And install the drivers on the win  side or the ubuntu side?
[00:02] <PsychoMari0> jleeperry:  whichever format your partition is in
[00:02] <JonathanEllis> Craig_Dem: Unfortunately handbrake is not available on Hardy
[00:02] <jrib> BluesKaj: basically, ext2, ext3, and ext4 should all be mountable as ext2 afaik
[00:02] <cwheeler> can I replace the real time ubuntu studio kernel with an ubuntu kernel without causing problmes?
[00:03] <S1n1ster> hey
[00:03] <PsychoMari0> jleeperry: in windows install the driver corresponding to your filesystem on the ubuntu partition
[00:03] <cwheeler> I suspect a problem handling interrupts
[00:03] <ChrisTX> naerey, that is windows + rainmeter
[00:03] <ChrisTX> http://rainmeter.net/RainCMS/
[00:03] <naerey> O_O windows can be pretty? gawd
[00:03] <julio> !vpn
[00:04] <naerey> ChrisTX: thanks
[00:04] <perryarmstrong> hey i got firefox 3.7 and firebug is not compatible with it..is there any alternative
[00:04] <jleeperry> Umm, okay.
[00:04]  * xfact totally confused
[00:04] <BluesKaj> jrib, well, tell me the secret cause I havent been able to get ntfs to read ext3 or 4 f
[00:05] <PsychoMari0> is it possible to assign a virtual network device to a chroot?
[00:05] <jrib> BluesKaj: no secret, nothing special to be done.  (I've only done it with ext3 myself)
[00:06] <jrib> BluesKaj: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[00:06] <gyrfalcon> anything like rainmeter for linux window managers?
[00:06] <S1n1ster> yo im new to ubuntu. someone know how to transfer music+ from windows?
[00:07] <jrib> gyrfalcon: rainmeter?
[00:07] <epcom> oi
[00:07] <Craig_Dem> Conky
[00:07] <sinbox> gyrfalcon, conky or gkrellm
[00:07] <outleradam> so there's no way at all to have a hyperlink which directs the computer to SFTP into another computer, or to SSH in?
[00:07] <wilhart_> when i open my mplayer i get with HIGH VOLUME static sound
[00:07] <naerey> jrib: http://rainmeter.net/RainCMS/
[00:07] <rhodan> S1n1ster: No, you can only use Music++, Music# with mono and jMusic.
[00:07] <gyrfalcon> jrib, the link that was posted a bit ago"<ChrisTX> http://rainmeter.net/RainCMS/"
[00:07] <Craig_Dem> Conky is a phenomenal application.
[00:08] <perryarmstrong> hey i got firefox 3.7 and firebug is not compatible with it..is there any alternative?
[00:08] <iAmerikan> rainmeter is what crashed my windows 7, and made me install ubuntu.
[00:08] <PsychoMari0> outleradam not without a specific program installed on the client
[00:08] <JonathanEllis> S1n1ster: Do you still have your windows partition? If so you can open it with the file manager and access any files in there
[00:08] <naerey> iAmerikan :D
[00:08] <outleradam> PsychoMari0: is there a package available?
[00:08] <epcom> fuckyu
[00:08] <rhodan> perryarmstrong: Just override the version check.
[00:08] <lowaiko> can i run Ubuntu Moblin Remix on my desktop? is it possible?
[00:08] <rhodan> lowaiko: No problem with that.
[00:08] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; in the sense
[00:09] <PsychoMari0> outleradam: under linux im not sure, but i know in windows you can install winscp and then scp:// links are opened with it
[00:09] <outleradam> hrm.
[00:09] <BluesKaj> jrib, I'll check it out , but i'm not expecting much
[00:09] <lowaiko> rhodan: so its just ubuntu with moblin user interface, not moblin with ubuntu packages
[00:09] <jrib> BluesKaj: ok
[00:09] <rhodan> lowaiko: >eah, perfectly possible.
[00:09] <Trek> is anyone here familiar with configuring openafs?
[00:10] <lowaiko> rhodan: thanks a lot!
[00:10] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; i didnt get you
[00:10] <direpenguin> hello everyone
[00:10] <rhodan> perryarmstrong: extensions.checkCompatibility=false
[00:10] <BluesKaj> jrib, fortunately I spend most of my computer time on linux so ntfs access is more important.
[00:11] <zach> slimjim are you here? sorry i had to get dinner
[00:11] <Trek> !hi | direpenguin
[00:11] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; so where do i have to run it
[00:11] <Trek> is anyone here familiar with configuring openafs?
[00:11] <rhodan> perryarmstrong: about:config...
[00:11] <PsychoMari0> Trek: have you tried the openafs channel?
[00:12] <wilhart_> can i have a key to NO_PUBKEY 1DABDBB4CEC06767
[00:12] <Trek> there's an openafs channel?
[00:12] <Richturd> Is there a channel where I can get help with installing OS's?
[00:12] <PsychoMari0> Trek: yeah, on this serve
[00:12] <rhodan> #openafs
[00:12] <Guest38459> richturd, whats the problem?
[00:12] <PsychoMari0> Richturd: depends what OSs
[00:12] <Trek> PsychoMari0, rhodan, i'm already there, thanks.
[00:13] <rhodan> Richturd: ##windows, #gentoo, #fedora, #archlinux
[00:13] <direpenguin> question, can i creat partitions when i install linux
[00:13] <Richturd> I cannot seem to be able to install windows 7 on my computer
[00:13] <direpenguin> cause last time when i tired to just install linux on my main HDD area my computer crashed
[00:13] <rhodan> Richturd: then ##windows is for you.
[00:13] <Richturd> No one in ##windows
[00:13] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: error message?
[00:13] <Trek> Richturd, PM me, i've got another destination for ya
[00:14] <Trek> Richturd, PM me, i've got another destination for ya if you need Windows help
[00:14] <direpenguin> yea, i got some error msg saying the disk or DVD was bad
[00:14] <direpenguin> then my computer crashed
[00:14] <rhodan> Richturd: You best be joking.
[00:14] <rhodan> Over 300 users.
[00:14] <direpenguin> im reinstalling windows temporarily right now
[00:14] <ChrisTX> 360 people tbh
[00:14] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: have you run the disk check thingummy when you start the cd ?
[00:14] <Trek> rhodan, if Richturd needs specific help, I'm a member of a Windows-mainly support IRC server...
[00:14] <Richturd> Trek, mind if I message you privately?
[00:15] <Trek> Richturd, go ahead
[00:15] <JULinuxUser> Can someone please tell me how to edit the new Grub 2 in Ubuntu 9.10 so that Windows XP boots first?
[00:15] <direpenguin> no? i dont know what your talking about, all i did after i put the ISO on a disk was restart my computer and booted from the disk
[00:15] <jrib> !grub2 | JULinuxUser
[00:15] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; but there's no such option i searched....and my firefox is crashing frequesntly
[00:15] <perryarmstrong> *frequesntly
[00:15] <perryarmstrong> *frequently
[00:15] <rhodan> perryarmstrong: Then stop using unstable software.
[00:15] <Skrotniklas> Can someone help me connect to my server with vncviewer? I have isntaller sthe server and it seems to work but I cannot connect from my windows client
[00:15] <rhodan> Skrotniklas: Sure, query me your IP.
[00:15] <PsychoMari0> durepenguin: when you booted the disk, did it show the ubuntu logo, and ask for a language?
[00:16] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; kk
[00:16] <direpenguin> yes
[00:16] <shoot^> Hey folks. I've just installed Ubuntu Server on my VPS, and created a new user. However, whenever I SSH in, the prompt displays '$' (rather than the actual hostname), and pressing "up", "down", "home", "tab" etc. do not behave normally, printing strings of symbols (eg. ^[[A) ...suggestions?
[00:16] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: there should have been options like; try ubuntu, install ubuntu, check disk?
[00:16] <direpenguin> i got all of that, but when i was installing, when it got to 29% it it said i had a bad DVD/CD then it shut down, then my computer had nothing on it, no OS or anything
[00:16] <Skrotniklas> rhodan: <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:16] <wilhart_> where can i get xbmc for lucid
[00:16] <Guest38459> does anyone know of any mac software that creates a bootable USB drive? Im on my brothers macbook right now because my PC is toast and im tring to get ubuntu 9.10 on it
[00:16] <direpenguin> i didnt see a check disk
[00:17] <direpenguin> when windows is done isntalling il try again
[00:17] <direpenguin> right now im on my laptop
[00:17] <rhodan> Skrotniklas: NAT?
[00:17] <direpenguin> but can i creat a partition while in linux so i can have both linux and windows
[00:18] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: you mean dual boot?
[00:18] <direpenguin> yea
[00:18] <Skrotniklas> rhodan: How do I check NAT, sorry my skills are a bit limited
[00:18] <jeeves_Moss> how can I find and mount a NTFS partition that's built on a RAID1 stripe set?
[00:18] <rhodan> Skrotniklas: The port is 5901, as revealed by nmap.
[00:18] <rhodan> Skrotniklas: <IP_ADDRESS>:5901
[00:18] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: if you install ubuntu after windows, it automatically wants to partition and set up grub for dualboot
[00:19] <direpenguin> the automatic thing is install side by side
[00:19] <direpenguin> is that the same thing?
[00:19] <perryarmstrong> rhodan; i removed firefox-3.7 and installed 3.6...but i am not getting the updated firefox...instead the 3.0 is opening
[00:19] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: yeah that;s dual boot
[00:19] <JonathanEllis> direpenguin: yes
[00:19] <direpenguin> cant i set a way for it to have as much space as i want it to?
[00:19] <Skrotniklas> rhodan: THANK YOU! Works great!
[00:19] <rhodan> Wow, I'm exhausted.
[00:19] <direpenguin> or would it just share it with vista
[00:20] <direpenguin> like if vista has 100GB left unbuntu has 100GB
[00:20] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: there is a colourful bar when you get to the partitioning part of the installer, there is also a slider on that bar, you can move it around and share the disk space as you wish
[00:21] <direpenguin> ah, but thats when i click "install side by side"?
[00:21] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: are you talking about when you boot off the livecd; or when you run the program inside windows?
[00:22] <direpenguin> boot from the CD
[00:22] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: right, thought so, the defaulting radio button is to install them dual boot, i cant remember the exact wording, but it is something like isntall side by side yes. that is the option it seems you want to choose
[00:23] <direpenguin> alright
[00:23] <direpenguin> i didnt even know i could install it while running windows at the same time
[00:23] <direpenguin> anywaym, whats a good progra i should use to burn so i can be assured nothing goes wrong like last time
[00:23] <direpenguin> last time i used imgburn
[00:24] <direpenguin> at 1x speed
[00:24] <visik7> hi
[00:24] <visik7> anyone got the "Scan Button" works on linux ?
[00:24] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: ive only ever used Roxio, after that i used brasero becuase i didnt have windows left
[00:24] <direpenguin> and roxio isnt free is it?
[00:25] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: no
[00:25] <direpenguin> is there a free trial
[00:25] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: possibly, it came preinstalled on my computer so i dont know
[00:26] <AlphaOne> yaaay
[00:26] <AlphaOne> I got my wireless card working
[00:26] <Guest_1549>   AlphaOne want a medal?
[00:26] <AlphaOne> yes I do!
[00:26] <AlphaOne> I spent all day on it
[00:26] <AlphaOne> today is my first day of Linux
[00:27] <AlphaOne> question, I got an old laptop too.  500mhz, 64mb ram. Windows 98 era.  what version of linux will make this fast?
[00:27] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: actually, i was wrong, i used isorecorder as well once, that worked well enough
[00:27] <EricBlade> alphaone: "fast" according to whom?
[00:27] <AlphaOne> faster
[00:27] <PsychoMari0> AplhaOne: Gentoo or Xubuntu would make it run acceptably
[00:27] <EricBlade> alphaone: avoid X11, imo
[00:27] <AlphaOne> what about Damn Small Linux?
[00:27] <devrethman> Did you just suggest that somebody run Gentoo on a 500mhz computer?
[00:28] <syn-ack> AlphaOne: DSL is good from a liveCD but honestly I wouldnt install it
[00:28] <EricBlade> i actually have a DSL install on a 166Mhz pentium with 48mb ram .. it runs alright, as long as you stay out of X
[00:28] <syn-ack> devrethman: why not?
[00:28] <AlphaOne> syn-ack how come?
[00:28] <PsychoMari0> AlphaOne: C**p hardware detection. Look at Puppy linux, that worked on an old laptop of mine
[00:28] <direpenguin> what will the disk check do
[00:28] <devrethman> syn-ack: Because updates take a month and a half...
[00:28] <EricBlade> i did upgrade it very painstakingly to whatever was current in the unstable debian tree as of about 6 months ago when i built it
[00:28] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: tell you if the disk has an error on it, if it does it might not install properly
[00:29] <direpenguin> oh ok
[00:29] <syn-ack> devrethman: dude, listen, I ran Gentoo on my Blueberry G3 333 with 98 megs of RAM and while it did take a while, I think it was more than worth it
[00:29] <direpenguin> is iso recorder easy to use
[00:29] <syn-ack> direpenguin: yes, as long as you read the manual
[00:29] <EricBlade> question re: ubuntu.  i have ubuntu on a netbook (eee) .. and i'd like to see if i can get it to automount a swapfile on a memory card when it's inserted .. anyone know how i'd look into setting that up? like some kind of a script to run on media insert
[00:29] <direpenguin> oh kk
[00:30] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: i think so, just choose the iso, choose the drive and burn
[00:30] <devrethman> syn-ack: If you say so...
[00:30] <direpenguin> alright
[00:30] <wilhart_> i'm hearing static really loud wheni open mplayer
[00:30] <EricBlade> turn the volume down
[00:30] <jrib> EricBlade: google "writing udev rules" I guess
[00:30] <wilhart_> what could it be.
[00:30] <EricBlade> ty jrib
[00:31] <PsychoMari0> willhart_:the audio drivers might not be working with your card correctly
[00:31] <EricBlade> jrib: looks great, i never would've guessed how to search for that one
[00:32] <JonathanEllis> Im trying to extract audio from a dvd using VLC. It doesnt matter what transcode options I select, I dont get a playable file. Can anyone help please? I have also tried AcidRip, OGMRip, dvd::Rip, and Thoggen but none of them have an option to rip the audio without the video
[00:32] <loco> hey
[00:32] <loco> any1 know anything about unbuntu
[00:32] <loco> asterisk
[00:32] <JonathanEllis> I cant use handbrake as its not available for hardy
[00:33] <loco> any1 know asterisk
[00:33] <JonathanEllis> !ask | loco
[00:33] <PsychoMari0> JonathanEllis: They are all dvd ripping programs, do you want the audio track from a dvd; or music which has been burnt to dvd?
[00:34] <loco> no asterisks peolpe
[00:34] <JonathanEllis> PsychoMari0: I want a short section of audio from a DVD
[00:34] <JonathanEllis> PsychoMari0: I have extracted audio from a DVD using VLC before and it worked fine so I dont know why its not working now
[00:35] <PsychoMari0> JonathanEllis: Look at k9copy, its what i use to 'back up' my dvds. i think you can disable the video ripping and just get the audio
[00:36] <direpenguin> man windows takes forever to isntall, i can wait to get linux running on it
[00:36] <hipitihop> I have installed the Festival TTS package via synaptic, and although I can get to the festival prompt, any attempt at output gives error "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp"
[00:36] <wilhart_> ok getting more static closing programs etc
[00:36] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: what version you installnig?
[00:36] <BluesKaj> JonathanEllis, investigate ffmpeg, i think it can extract audio  from a dvd or video file with a relatively simple command in the terminal
[00:36] <direpenguin> of unbuntu?
[00:37] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: windows
[00:37] <direpenguin> oh vista
[00:37] <JonathanEllis> BluesKaj: Thanks
[00:37] <PsychoMari0> BluesKaj: i didnt think ffmpeg, terminal and simple went together
[00:37] <JonathanEllis> PsychoMari0: Thanks
[00:37] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: prepare for a long night :P
[00:37] <direpenguin> its almost done
[00:38] <BluesKaj> PsychoMari0, well if you rely strictly o guis , then you're restricting your options a lot
[00:38]  * syn-ack deletes over 4 gigs of email and Evolution is having a field day with it
[00:39] <PsychoMari0> BluesKaj: I use mostly Terminal stuff, except for ripping my DVDs, that is the only thing i reliably find easier with k9copy
[00:39] <kavurt> I bought a new toshiba i3 laptop. it doesn't show anything when I boot ubuntu cd. I just hear the booting music. is there anything can be done? or the only way, returning the laptop to the store?
[00:39] <direpenguin> does unbuntu need virus software
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !virus | direpenguin
[00:39] <julio> guys, does anyone know of something like the admin board that windows servers pop when you log in?
[00:40] <BluesKaj> PsychoMari0, well to each his own  :)
[00:40] <julio> but for ubuntu?
[00:40] <karin> hej, im new
[00:40] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: its a good idea, but not as important as on windows, you dont want to go passing anything on
[00:40] <direpenguin> man thats alot to read lol
[00:40] <karin> i just installed xubuntu
[00:40] <nerdy_kid> i have a dead win disk to fix, is the disk imageing/recovery as easy as this page says it is?  http://www.hanckmann.net/?q=node/19
[00:40] <karin> and have problems after the upgrade with mozilla
[00:41] <PsychoMari0> karin: tried rebooting?
[00:41] <karin> nothing happened
[00:41] <karin> it says bus error on terminal
[00:42] <capron> why are route commad  take time too show the last wlan gatway
[00:42] <hipitihop> I'm trying to use Festival TTS and it complains not being able to open /dev/dsp what is the normal ubuntu dev for the audio ?
[00:42] <PsychoMari0> hipitihop: is it permissions problem?
[00:43] <nerdy_kid> can i use dd to image and restore an HD?
[00:44] <PsychoMari0> nerdy_kid: yes
[00:44] <direpenguin> will i be able to do cool stuff in linux like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w if i only got like 800MB of RAM and a nvidia geforece6150LE graphics card
[00:44] <capron> nerdy_kid,  It helps alot if the disk have the same size
[00:44] <PsychoMari0> direpenguin: theoretically yes, but it will murder your performance
[00:44] <jalmeida> hi. I like ubuntu very much
[00:45] <nerdy_kid> capron or....
[00:45] <jalmeida> but I need to use windows in my work
[00:45] <jalmeida> =(
[00:45] <nerdy_kid> capron i need to replace an HD and i am not going to go through the emotional pain of reinstalling Windows
[00:46] <hipitihop> PsychoMari0, no idea .. I'm just in the festival prompt and it says "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp"
[00:46] <PsychoMari0> hipithop: what happens if you run the same command with 'sudo'?
[00:46] <nerdy_kid> hipitihop should try espeak i personaly like it better the festival
[00:46] <capron> nerdy_kid,  yes it is a good thing too use dd
[00:46] <hipitihop> PsychoMari0, just tried via sudo and same result.
[00:47] <hipitihop> nerdy_kid, rpos n cons ?
[00:47] <nerdy_kid> capron ok, but the disks will be different sizes, how much of an effect would that have?
[00:47] <hipitihop> nerdy_kid, sorry, keyboard mind of it's own...let try again... why do you think so ?
[00:48] <capron> nerdy_kid,  Then the new disk will only use size of dd image
[00:49] <nerdy_kid> hipitihop festival had a habit of cutting the ends of the sentences i gave it off, it struck me as very buggy.  espeak in my experance is very stable, and i prefer the voice to festivals.
[00:49] <capron> nerdy_kid,  but you can fix that later using other tools
[00:49] <wilhart_> probably have to install backport alsa?
[00:49] <nerdy_kid> hipitihop the only issue ive ever had with espeak was an issue that was pulseaudio related, but they fixed it in karmic :D
[00:49] <hipitihop> nerdy_kid, ok thanks
[00:49] <nerdy_kid> capron thanks a ton mate, just what a wanted to hear! youve saved my day :D
[00:50] <bharat_> hi hmmm i have a Dell studio 1555(x64) just installed Ubuntu 9.10. its superb
[00:50] <bharat_> but there are a few issues
[00:50] <titan_ark> hey, i tried adding the ppa for the latest OOo 3.2 and i am getting errors while doing the update, any idea how i can set it right?
[00:50] <bharat_> the brightness  keys dont work
[00:51] <hipitihop> nerdy_kid, so how do I get a reasonable human sounding configuration in espeak, it certainyl doe snot sound anything like the festival online demos
[00:51] <bharat_> has anyone faced the same problem
[00:52] <jimc> ok. hi.
[00:52] <jimc> I need to be the billionth customer to have trouble with samba.
[00:53] <nerdy_kid> hipitihop no, it does sound different then most others, but in my opinion once you get used to the 'accent' (which doesnt take very long) its nicer sounding then festival.
[00:53] <bharat_> any help out there!
[00:53] <jimc> I have two ubuntu boxes running. I am trying to set up to use both of them with my windows network.
[00:53] <jimc> I have swat running.
[00:53] <jimc> I have done the smbpasswd thang.
[00:54] <nerdy_kid> bharat do the keys work in BIOS?
[00:54] <PsychoMari0> jimc: what is the problem exactly?
[00:54] <bharat_> yup! just
[00:54] <bharat_> works only wen i boot it and lasts a few seconds after login
[00:54] <nerdy_kid> bharat hmm, ill try to dig something up for you
[00:54] <jimc> The present problem is that box A ("Silver") sees box B ("tarnish"), but cannot open any shares.
[00:55] <titan_ark> hey, i tried adding the ppa for the latest OOo 3.2 and i am getting errors while doing the update, any idea how i can set it right?
[00:55] <bharat_> and also, the eject button doesnt work
[00:55] <PsychoMari0> jimc: any error messages?
[00:55] <Pianoman13> how do I install ACDSee photo software in Ubuntu 9.10, i tried it but always get an error during install
[00:55] <semitones> titan_ark: could you start by postbining the errors?
[00:55] <thechris> Does anyone know the current way to start gnome or *dm from the command line?
[00:55] <naerey> Pianoman13: O_o why ACDSee?
[00:55] <thechris> Or where such a setting is located?
[00:56] <Jordan_U> !boot | thechris
[00:56] <Pianoman13> because i have 35,000 photos to work with
[00:56] <PsychoMari0> thechris: startx
[00:56] <jimc> Tarnish, on the other hand, sees only the workgroup ("ozco") but nothing is there when I open it.
[00:56] <Pianoman13> and fspot crashes when i try to import them
[00:56] <nerdy_kid> bharat have a dell?
[00:56] <Pianoman13> i already logged a bug for f-spot
[00:56] <thechris> PsychoMari0: what is gnome called, or will it just load without an xinitrc?
[00:56] <bharat_> yup its a dell 1555
[00:56] <PsychoMari0> thechris: gnome-session
[00:56] <bharat_> 64bit
[00:57] <jimc> Silver says "unable to open location: failed to retrieve shares list from server"
[00:57] <Pianoman13> i have been looking for a sturdy photo management software in Linux but have not found any yet
[00:57] <nerdy_kid> bharat check this out, i have to go so cant help you anymore sry.  good luck!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/392812
[00:57] <bharat_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313390&highlight=brightness   i tried that but no luck
[00:58] <bharat_> nerdy thnx
[00:58] <nerdy_kid> bharat sure thing :) good luck!
[00:59] <titan_ark> semitones, i get a few ignores for the OOo and then a 404 error. I removed the ppa from the software sources list but even now i get a few Ign for Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Translation-en_US and similar
[00:59] <BluesKaj> Pianoman13, digikam ?
[00:59] <thechris> PsychoMari0: hmm, that just seems to load the gnome background and an X for a cursor
[00:59] <elementalbrand> hi, im having these troubles error: ‘WSAESOCKTNOSUPPORT’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[00:59] <titan_ark> semitones, http://paste.ubuntu.com/377257/
[01:00] <semitones> titan_ark: huh, I don't know why it would do Ign
[01:01] <Pianoman13> digikam is not really a photo management software, it is closer to Photoshop of something like that
[01:01] <titan_ark> semitones, even I cant figure that out
[01:01] <jimc> Okay, I'll try again.
[01:01] <semitones> titan_ark: you're trying to install the latest OO.o?
[01:01] <Pianoman13> i need something in linux that will permit me to import my 35,000 picture database and re-organize it for Ubuntu 9.10 usage
[01:02] <jimc> samba: unable to mount location: failed to retrieve share list from server
[01:02] <PsychoMari0> Pianoman13:: what do you mean by reorganise?
[01:02] <Pianoman13> i have been stuck with this problem since i started with ubuntu 3 weeks ago
[01:02] <titan_ark> semitones, well i was, i found a link that said to add the ppa and try but it dint work. and those 404 errors came up which i could clear out after removing the OOo ppa.
[01:02] <Pianoman13> the ACDSee software catalogues the photos
[01:02] <titan_ark> semitones, would you know how to install the latest OOo via terminal so that I can get updates
[01:02] <Pianoman13> there is nothing like this in linux that i have found so far
[01:03] <ChrisTX> elementalbrand, somewhere you code got a lack of #ifdefs
[01:03] <titan_ark> i dont want to DL the .tar and install
[01:03] <Garlique> I am having a very simple problem with bash is there anyone here knowledgeable in basic bash
[01:03] <ChrisTX> WSASOCKETNOSUPPORT is a windows error code lol
[01:03] <Pianoman13> so i can only look at individual photos but not at groups
[01:03] <jmspeex> I'm considering buying a new laptop with the latest Arrandale integrated graphics. Anyone knows whether that's supported under Karmic?
[01:03] <semitones> titan_ark: I wouldn't want to install from source either -- but I haven't tried getting the latest one, only the one in the standard repos
[01:03] <blakkheim> jmspeex: it's not
[01:03] <PsychoMari0> pianoman13: i imagine with that many photos most things would crash, except command line things, but then you cant view them
[01:03] <jmspeex> blakkheim: how about Lucid?
[01:03] <semitones> titan_ark: any particular reason why you want the lastest one?
[01:03] <Pianoman13> i would like to try using wine
[01:04] <blakkheim> jmspeex: depends on what kernel lucid uses
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Pianoman13, Have you tried gthumb?
[01:04] <Pianoman13> but i get install error
[01:04] <Jordan_U> Pianoman13, Or picasa?
[01:04] <jmspeex> blakkheim: it's "only" a kernel issue or there's X issues as well?
[01:04] <Garlique> syntax error near unexpected token `else'
[01:04] <Pianoman13> so far i have tried f-spot, digikam, gimp
[01:04] <Garlique> is the error im recieving
[01:04] <WaY> hello
[01:04] <elementalbrand> the thing is that i have install that project in others linux system, and works ok
[01:04] <titan_ark> semitones, why would you not want to install the latest from the source? I am unable to open MS Office's .***x format files
[01:04] <WaY> is any way of jailbreaking iphone from ubuntu?
[01:05] <blakkheim> jmspeex: i know it's a kernel issue first but i don't know about X yet
[01:05] <charles__> :)
[01:05] <jmspeex> OK, then I guess I'll wait a bit
[01:05] <semitones> titan_ark: installing from source can be difficult -- though it's often very easy. Have you tried opening those files up in the standard Open Office?
[01:05] <erichammond> On Jaunty bash prompt, hitting Ctrl-C gives a new bash prompt without output to current line.  On Karmic, it displays "^C" then gives new bash prompt. Ideas on how to revert this behavior? readline config? stty config? terminfo config? bash config? ...?
[01:06] <Pianoman13> maybe i should try gthumb
[01:06] <titan_ark> semitones, Yes I can on my windows box
[01:06] <Garlique> read Cartoon
[01:06] <Garlique> Cartoonistrue="yes"
[01:06] <Garlique> if [ "$Cartoon" = "$Cartoonistrue" ]; then
[01:06] <Garlique>                 for movie in *.avi ; do
[01:06] <Garlique> echo Processing $movie Episode
[01:06] <FloodBot2> Garlique: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <Garlique> else
[01:06] <Garlique>                 for movie in *.avi ; do
[01:06] <tj83> someone want to explain to me why its ok for ubuntu to strike a deal for cash basically exchanging hands through yahoo from microsoft? why on earth would ubuntu agree to use yahoo as the default search engine for lucid lynx firefox? yahoo being powered by BING. cause i am seriously about to pack my things and move out of ubuntu into fedora.i was all fired up about lucid, been doing the testing, but now, now i hear this.... and wow. sooooooooooo wrong. anyone
[01:06] <tj83> have a take on this or no?
[01:06] <semitones> titan_ark: what about the version of open office in the standard repositories?
[01:06] <semitones> in ubuntu
[01:07] <blakkheim> tj83: rants go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:07] <titan_ark> semitones, or is there a way i can uninstall the current OOo and reinstall?
[01:07] <titan_ark> Sememmon, 3.1.1 is the current one if i am not mistaken?
[01:07] <semitones> titan_ark: just a  sec
[01:07] <semitones> I'm not sure
[01:07] <magn3ts> Can I use grub2 to boot my mac instead of refit?
[01:07] <blakkheim> magn3ts: probably not
[01:08] <magn3ts> blakkheim, :[
[01:08] <titan_ark> oops tabbed the wrong name :P
[01:08] <turbowei>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:08] <dj-gatinho> e ai galera
[01:08] <Noimact5> cls
[01:08] <Noimact5> clear
[01:09] <drwho_> hello, I am having trouble with the Broadcom STA driver. After downloading and installing the driver from the broadcom site (and its the same with the one I installed before with jockey) the wireless is disabled in the network manager (the icon near the time and date) and I cannot find anything to enable it after trying some things I found on the forum
[01:09] <drwho_> I really want to use wireless and it is bothering me that I cannot get this to work at all please help
[01:09] <semitones> titan_ark: to uninstall Open Office and re install it -- the first thing to do would be open Synaptic, and search for Open Office, then remove the ones that are selected
[01:10] <semitones> titan_ark: I need to reboot into ubuntu, brb
[01:10] <titan_ark> semitones, but how would i know which all i need to install, i have tried looking at the list but its huge
[01:10] <titan_ark> semitones, okay np
[01:11] <billythekid> Question to any devlopers lurking...
[01:12] <drwho_> no one to help?
[01:12] <magn3ts> blakkheim, how sure are you? I think that is the point of grub-efi
[01:12] <Guest95621> drwho: plug a wire ethernet cable to your laptop and go to system> administration> hardware drives, see if that help
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> Been ages since I've used Gnome, what's the applet that acts like a drop down quick launch?
[01:13] <duffolonious> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-cluster-7.0/libmysqlclient16_7.0.9-1_amd64.deb 403  Forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:13] <drwho_> Guest95621, I installed the drivers from there and still wireless is disabled after the driver is installed
[01:13] <oxeimon> how do you quit without saving in vi?
[01:13] <duffolonious> anyway around this?
[01:13] <drwho_> I am trying to find out how to disable my wireless after installing the drivers
[01:13] <duffolonious> different mirror?
[01:13] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged>
[01:13] <drwho_> don't know why this is such a problem..
[01:14] <Guest95621> drwho: did you activate all the restrited drivers there?
[01:14] <PingFloyd> drwho_: did you switch to it in network manager?
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> drwho_ network manager applet?
[01:14] <drwho_> I'll try that also
[01:15] <MilitantPotato> drwho_: or, blacklist the module if you don't want it to load on boot
[01:15] <Bac9> anyone use halevt? how do I reference properties of the parent storage device from the 'exec' statement for the volume, i.e. the following does _NOT_ work $hal.block.storage_device.hal.info.vendor$ , and if I use hal-get-property I get a segfault
[01:15] <ipsemet1289> hello I'm working on a bash script to make logging in over ssh easier for my users. the Function on line 118 doesn't work correctly http://pastebin.com/d19123899 could someone please advise me as to why
[01:15] <PsychoMari0> Bac9: May i enquire how you are using an ipv6 address?
[01:15] <rahduke> hey folks, im working on my cousins PC, he has an old SCSI (NTFS) hard drive in it that seems to crapped out. I'm running off alive CD and i've tried to fsck the drive and it reports a bad superblock.... I don't expect to bring the HDD back to working order, however there is alot of data on it I desperately need to salvage. Is there any way possible to get some at least some of this data?
[01:16] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:16] <blood> how to auto configure setserial?
[01:16] <MilitantPotato> Is there a gnome applet that acts like a drop down menu for launching applications?
[01:16] <thechris> I want to restart the graphical logic in ubuntu.  How do I do this
[01:16] <duffolonious> thechris: huh?
[01:16] <PsychoMari0> MilitantPotato: i think there is something called drawer that does something similar?
[01:16] <drwho_> MilitantPotato PingFloyd Guest95621 you mean network connections?
[01:16] <thechris> duffolonious: err, the graphical login.
[01:16] <drwho_> also in ifconfig the wireless card interface is eth2
[01:16] <Guest95621> drwho;yes
[01:17] <MilitantPotato> PsychoMari0: it appears to only allow you to add other applets too Drawer
[01:17] <duffolonious> thechris: restrict how?
[01:17] <duffolonious> user-wise?
[01:17] <PsychoMari0> MilitantPotato, isnt the top option under add applet one to add a custom command?
[01:17] <drwho_> there is nothing under wireless in network connections
[01:18] <PingFloyd> drwho_: you may have to create on
[01:18] <thechris> duffolonious: I want the default ubuntu login to work.
[01:18] <rahduke> hey folks, im working on my cousins PC, he has an old SCSI (NTFS) hard drive in it that seems to have crapped out. I'm running off a live CD and i've tried to fsck the drive and it reports a bad superblock.... I don't expect to bring the HDD back to working order, however there is alot of data on it I desperately need to salvage. Is there any way possible to get some at least some of this data?
[01:18] <MilitantPotato> PsychoMari0: you're right, thank you
[01:18] <drwho_> hm okay
[01:18] <thechris> duffolonious: it has gone away for unknown reasons, and its not called gdm/xdm nor is there an obvious init.d entry
[01:19] <PingFloyd> drwho_: edit connections
[01:19] <drwho_> I will check the forums again because it should be able to detect connections
[01:19] <Semitones> hello
[01:19] <Bac9> PsychoMari0: by connecting to irc.ipv6.freenode.net
[01:19] <Semitones> is the person I was helping still here
[01:19] <duffolonious> thechris: I see - I wonder if it went to entrance or something compeletely different (outside of gnome/X)
[01:19] <kavurt> does ubuntu have any problems with i3 processors?
[01:20] <thechris> duffolonious: i wouldn't be suprised.
[01:20] <billythekid> rahduke: what format is the disk?
[01:20] <kavurt> !i3
[01:20] <billythekid> oh well
[01:21] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:21] <Guest95621> kavurt: no, or not that i know of
[01:21] <magn3ts> "You can also use grub.efi as standalone loader. "
[01:21] <thechris> Does anyone know how to get the gnome login screen from ubuntu to come up?
[01:22] <billythekid> thechris: can you explain further?
[01:22] <duffolonious> thechris: are you on lucid?
[01:22] <titan_ark> anyone able to get the OOo 3.2?
[01:22] <kavurt> I just bought a toshiba laptop with i3 processor. it doesn't show anything when I boot karmic cd. is it fixable?
[01:23] <billythekid> kavurt: does it show anything during boot at all?
[01:23] <thechris> duffolonious: no
[01:23] <klappi> is there a way to reset files in etc to ubuntu factory defaults?
[01:24] <thechris> billythekid: the default login screen used to appear.  now it doesn't, it just goes to a CLI.
[01:24] <tj83> kavurt, not even the language choice? if so, after that use F4 then graphics safe mode to install
[01:24] <billythekid> thechris: sounds like an unsupported graphics card
[01:24] <kavurt> billythekid: no. i can select language first. and then i select just try. that's it.
[01:25] <kavurt> tj83: I can hear the booting sound. but I can't see anything
[01:25] <billythekid> kavurt: i believe u may have downloaded the alternative cd
[01:25] <tj83> kavurt, press F4 then graphics safe mode, will probably get you moving
[01:25] <thechris> billythekid: no, fluxbox works.
[01:25] <hdevalence> how do I remap the up-arrow key to the down-arrow key and vice versa?
[01:25] <billythekid> ah
[01:25] <billythekid> thechris: what version?
[01:25] <thechris> billythekid: 9.10
[01:26] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:26] <duffolonious> thechris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/377269/
[01:26] <duffolonious> it should be gdm
[01:26] <PingFloyd> billythekid: sounds like you don't have a DM installed
[01:26] <billythekid> startx perhaps...
[01:26] <PingFloyd> billythekid: or changed the default runlevel
[01:27] <billythekid> not i, was thechris
[01:27] <thechris> duffolonious: i don't have that
[01:27] <IamReck> Anyone here know anything about the magic that is autovivification?
[01:27] <PingFloyd> thechris: ^^
[01:27] <billythekid> thechris: if ur missing gdm, the desktop is not there
[01:27] <demonspork_> what is a good media center application. It doesn't need support for watching TV, just watching a preexisting movie collection
[01:28] <PingFloyd> thechris: do you have gdm, kdm, xdm, or slim installed?
[01:28] <billythekid> thechris: what cd are u booting from, is it alternative or server?
[01:28] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:28] <thechris> PingFloyd: so it seems installing gpe removed gdm.
[01:28] <PingFloyd> oh he's booting from a CD?
[01:29] <freebsdlover> hell o
[01:29] <unknown> hello, anybody know how can I check current speed of my PCI buss ?
[01:29] <PingFloyd> thechris: are you trying to boot off a liveCD?
[01:29] <PsychoMari0> billythekid: isnt that a wireless driver? i think it already has been, i think im using it...
[01:29] <unknown> I mean, is it 33Mhz or 66 Mhz
[01:29] <billythekid> Pyscho: its the latest
[01:29] <andres_> hola linuxeros
[01:29] <direpenguin> question, i installed linux using Wubi, then it had me restart my computer, then it booted from the disk, was it suppose to do this
[01:29] <billythekid> Ive had issues with a Dell T5500
[01:29] <direpenguin> or should i have taken out the disk before restarting
[01:30] <thechris> PingFloyd: no, just trying to get some apps to work.
[01:30] <josiah> just curious, what are people's impressions here of Portable Ubuntu
[01:31] <LordHawke13> Is there any way to, in a BASH script that must be run as root through SUDO, represent the actual user as a variable?
[01:31] <billythekid> Pyscho: using the Dell wireless PCI card
[01:31] <nexus_> I need help with my computer... I turn it on and the monitor says no input signal... Monitor going to sleep. I opened it up sn the fans are working as well a the DVD drive
[01:32] <direpenguin> is your VGA cable plugged in all the way, and screwed in
[01:32] <duffolonious> http://paste.ubuntu.com/377272/
[01:32] <billythekid> nexus: sounds like either it is not plugged into the graphics card, or the graphics card is dead
[01:32] <duffolonious> why libmysqlclient has permission issues I'd be curious to know
[01:32] <duffolonious> because it's stopping my upgrade
[01:33] <duffolonious> 9.10 -> 10.4
[01:33] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:34] <nikhil> nexus: also clean your RAM and check oncemore
[01:34] <LordHawke13> I have a BASH script for making HFS+ images. It's in /usr/bin. It involves mounting the image to copy files to it, so it must be run as root using SUDO. As a result, it is owned by root. Is there a way that I can represent the sudoer's username as a variable so that anyone can use this script?
[01:35] <billythekid> Lord: su to root
[01:35] <billythekid> Lord: chmod +s the file
[01:35] <LordHawke13> +s?
[01:36] <LordHawke13> I want to changer the ownership
[01:36] <billythekid> Lord: as root, it adds the "sticky" bit to the executable so that other people run it as root
[01:36] <billythekid> Lord: but you have to be root when you do it
[01:37] <LordHawke13> I don't want it to be owned by root, though.
[01:37] <LordHawke13> I want it clean.
[01:37] <direpenguin> do you guys think 30GB of space is enough for linux
[01:37] <direpenguin> i only got like 10GB of music, and dont think il be installing anything else
[01:37] <billythekid> Lord: it will be
[01:37] <LordHawke13> Somehting like `$ chown ${SUDOER} ${OUTPUTFILE}`
[01:38] <billythekid> Lord: thats not the clean way
[01:38] <LordHawke13> Please tell me there's a way without just putting MY username in the script. . .
[01:38] <LordHawke13> I want the owner to be the person who runs the script.
[01:38] <billythekid> Lord: open a shell, and issue "sudo su"
[01:38] <JayStorm> i want to sleep
[01:38] <JayStorm> goodnight
[01:38] <billythekid> Lord: type in "chown +s <filename>"
[01:39] <blakkheim> !away > Jay|Off
[01:39] <chetnick> LordHawke13: you can get way beter help about that on #bash
[01:39] <direpenguin> Is 30GB enough space of linux, if i only have about 10GB of music and wont be downloading much stuff besides some pictures off the internet
[01:39] <direpenguin> and linux updates
[01:39] <derrick__> 30 is fine for it
[01:39] <derrick__> deponds on how long you plan on having it hough
[01:40] <direpenguin> uhm
[01:40] <billythekid> Lord: if you want the owner to be the person that owns the script, it can not be run as root
[01:40] <direpenguin> around 5 months or so
[01:40] <derrick__> you never have enough space
[01:40] <direpenguin> i dont really download much stuff
[01:40] <LordHawke13> chown: invalid user: `+s'
[01:40] <LordHawke13>  chgrp: invalid group: `+s'
[01:40] <direpenguin> my music is from CD's and such
[01:40]  * Jay|Off is away: sleep
[01:40] <billythekid> direpenguin: 30G should be enough
[01:40] <nexus_> nikhil: What should I clean it with
[01:40] <derrick__> yea you wont run into problems if you don't download stuff
[01:41] <direpenguin> alright cool
[01:41] <direpenguin> im just going to use it for general use
[01:41] <billythekid> Lord: my bad, its chmod
[01:41] <chetnick> LordHawke13: you should mount image as root to some dir, and then change permissions for the dir, and then change to needed user, and copy files.
[01:41] <direpenguin> Listening to Music, MSN, internet stuffs
[01:41] <titan_ark> anyone able to get the OOo 3.2 working?

[01:41] <nexus_> direpenguin: Yes it is pluged in an I have checked all connections
[01:41] <billythekid> <feeling a bit stupid>
[01:41] <chetnick> LordHawke13: i hope you understood what i wanted to say.
[01:42] <LordHawke13> chetnick, But how does the script know the username of the person who initiated it? I can change the ownership of the file afterwards but I don't want to have to do that.
[01:42] <direpenguin> nexus: try unplugging it and blowing into it, and the slot you plug it into, there could be dust blocking the connection
[01:42] <billythekid> chetnick: easier to chmod +s
[01:42] <Damianos> I need help getting my ubuntu to boot
[01:42] <nikhil> nexus : the best way is to slightly rub the pins with an pencil eraser
[01:43] <chetnick> billythekid: what does +s do?
[01:43] <direpenguin> will unbuntu run smoother then my vista does? i only have like 800MB of ram and a nvidia geforce 6150LE graphics card
[01:43] <billythekid> chetnick: adds the sticky bit
[01:43] <chetnick> LordHawke13: persone that initiated the script?
[01:43] <chetnick> LordHawke13: if it involves mounting than it has to be superuser.
[01:43] <Damianos> I installed ubuntu and got a working LTSP server going and I loved every minute of it...I then installed XP onto a separate HDD and now my ubuntu won't boot
[01:43] <billythekid> chetnick: if you own a file and set that, it lets others run it as you
[01:43] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: yes, Xubuntu would fly
[01:44] <direpenguin> i dont know if im using xbuntu
[01:44] <chetnick> billythekid: that's perfect solution for him then.
[01:44] <direpenguin> im installing what ever was on the homepage of unbuntu's website
[01:44] <LordHawke13> I want the BASH script to change the ownership of the resulting DMG file to the person who typed `$ sudo makedmg . . . . .`
[01:44] <almoxarife> a wubi question, twice now, right after a update where the kernel was replaced with an updated version my grub loader was trashed, any ideas what may cause it?
[01:44] <carbm2> Damianos, You probably need to boot the Ubuntu Alternative cd and select Rescue from the bootup. Then select reinstall Grub.
[01:44] <chetnick> LordHawke13: take a look at those sticky bits chmod +s, like bilithekid said.
[01:44] <Damianos> sweet...I will give that  try...thanks carbm2
[01:45] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin:  once it's installed, you'd open Synaptic, in the search type xubuntu, and install xubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13:  make use of the $USER variable
[01:45] <direpenguin> do i want that?
[01:45] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: at the login screen you can choose between the default (gnome) and Xubuntu
[01:46] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:46] <Semitones> titan_ark, hey, any luck with installing OO.o 3.2?
[01:46] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: sure, Xubuntu is easier on resources, would be worth trying, wont break anything
[01:46] <lasume> Brasero failed, my CD drive is active, but the disc won't eject. Help.
[01:46] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, Since SUDO is used, ${USER} = root
[01:46] <direpenguin> i just got some GNU Grub menu up, i dont know what to type
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13:  incorrect... try 'sudo echo $USER'
[01:46] <Dr_Willis>  sudo echo $USER
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> willis
[01:47] <carbm2> lasume, you can use a straightened paperclip to use the eject button on the front of the cdburner. Or restart... it would eject then.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13:  if you did 'sudo su' -> USER = root
[01:47] <lasume> carbm2: I'd rather do something that doesn't involve making lots of noise or rebooting.
[01:47] <titan_ark> Semitones, nope :( tired of trying
[01:47] <lasume> carbm2: Is it a software problem?
[01:47] <direpenguin> anyone know what im suppose to do at this GRUB menu, i have no idea what im suppose to type
[01:47] <billythekid> dr: easier with chmod +s
[01:48] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: you only show a grub menu?
[01:48] <direpenguin> yes
[01:48] <direpenguin> it wants me to type a command
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> billythekid:  i missed the whole problem.. if its about mac dmg file.s. i proberly dont want to know more. :P
[01:48] <carbm2> lasume, Hardware usually... a failed disc just freezes the drive sometimes.  Drop to Terminal and type "eject"
[01:48] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: is ubuntu installed?
[01:48] <lasume> carbm2: Doesn't work. No output.
[01:48] <Semitones> titan_ark, does open office 3.1 work for you?
[01:48] <billythekid> dr: they want to run a command as root by any user
[01:48] <direpenguin> it should be, i installed it using Wubi
[01:49] <direpenguin> and when i booted up my computer i choose to load up unbuntu
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> billythekid:  they could make a sudoers file entry to allow that for a specific command
[01:49] <Semitones> titan_ark, it's a lot easier to install
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> billythekid:  or as you said. the suid bit.. but that wont work for scripts
[01:49] <titan_ark> Semitones, yes it does. except for the docx files
[01:49] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, You have to type SUDO to run the script. That makes the $USER variable root when it's used in the script.
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13:  it dosent seem to do that here.  let me try it with a script
[01:49] <billythekid> dr: sounds like a lot if user may be involved, perhaps giving them sudoers is too much power
[01:50] <LordHawke13> Dr_Willis, You got email or IM? I could send this to you.
[01:50] <Semitones> titan_ark, hmm -- well, if you're able to wait for Lucid Lynx, it will probably have the never version of OOo
[01:50] <Semitones> comes out in April
[01:50] <danbhfive> anyone using ubuntuone?  I'm finding that it doesn't sync when I ask it to.  How can I get it to sync?
[01:50] <MilitantPotato> direpenguin: did you install it on C:?
[01:50] <billythekid> dr: he wanted an executable owned by root to be executed by anyone
[01:50] <direpenguin> yes
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> LordHawke13:  Hmm. yep. a seperate script does do it that way but not via the commandline.. Interesting  how its doing that.
[01:51] <titan_ark> Semitones, yes i guess i would have to, for a number of reasons. the power management daemon on this is also screwed
[01:51] <billythekid> dr: you have to be root when you set the s bit
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Must because its spawning a different shwll.
[01:51] <LordHawke13> billythekid, It has to be run by root to use `mount` but I need it to know 'who' run the file through sudo.
[01:51] <Semitones> did you try asking for help with that already, titan_ark?
[01:51] <billythekid> Lord: so u want to track who used it?
[01:52] <LordHawke13> Yes
[01:52] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:52] <titan_ark> Semitones, yes i have. it is a bug with certain hp and dell notebooks. a patch is available but people advised me against doing a kernel recompile
[01:52] <titan_ark> Semitones, the bug is reported in launchpad
[01:52] <billythekid> Lord: create a wrapper script and log the output to /var somewhere making sure it wraps at a set size
[01:53] <Semitones> titan_ark, ugh, I hate when hardware doesn't work!
[01:53] <Guest5045> ganesh
[01:53] <titan_ark> Semitones, else i need to use the vanilla kernel 2.6.32
[01:53] <titan_ark> yeah its irritating
[01:53] <LordHawke13> Hold on brb
[01:53] <billythekid> dr: u there?
[01:53] <morrison> anyone help me out with a mozilla fire fox problem.  web-pages are not displaying properly, i checked the resolution of the monitor and the settings are correct but mozilla is displaying images blurry and text of web-pages incorrectly
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> billythekid:  im in and out all day.
[01:54] <rahduke> anyone know about testdisk?
[01:54] <titan_ark> everytime laptop recovers from sleep i am told there is no battery in, so i cant put it to sleep. always shot down!
[01:54] <billythekid> dr: missed those requirements...
[01:54] <rahduke> Its not picking up a drive that is totally screwed up.... Disk Utility does find it but it wont show up in testdisk...any help?
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> One of the features of sudo thats over looked is its 'auditing' features I recall reading about somewhere
[01:55] <Jenna> hiii
[01:55] <Guest5045> any body there
[01:55] <morrison> hey dr. willis thanks for all the help with the x-server i got things working to how i want it
[01:55] <Jenna> is there any one in here?
[01:55] <Guest5045> ya me
[01:55] <Guest5045> ganesh
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> morrison:  yea :) now write a tutorial! :)
[01:55] <LordHawke13> billythekid, Dr_Willis, Sorry to have taken your time but I've got to go. Later.
[01:55] <Jenna> hi ganesh
[01:55] <Guest5045> who r u?
[01:55] <Jenna> jenna
[01:55] <Guest5045> hi
[01:56] <billythekid> Lord: np
[01:56] <freebsdlover> hi jenna.
[01:56] <Jenna> hi
[01:56] <freebsdlover> whats up
[01:56] <Jenna> nuthun much
[01:56] <freebsdlover> ok
[01:56] <Jenna> u?
[01:56] <freebsdlover> lots up there
[01:56] <freebsdlover> stars, sky
[01:56] <Semitones> titan_ark, I've had similar problems with Sleep -- I just shut down every time now
[01:56] <freebsdlover> the lot
[01:56] <freebsdlover> lol
[01:56] <FloodBot2> freebsdlover: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <Semitones> titan_ark, ubuntu boots so quickly I don't mind
[01:57] <rahduke> test disk is not picking up a drive that is totally screwed up.... Disk Utility does find it but it wont show up in testdisk...any help?? Please!
[01:57] <Guest5045> me going, this chat box is so much junky punky humpty dumpty
[01:57] <titan_ark> Semitones, yeah i do the same :)
[01:57] <Jenna> lol
[01:57] <Jenna> i am boredddd
[01:57] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[01:57] <titan_ark> i need some help with my HDD. i have a partition that is not being used, could i convert it to ext 4 and combine it with my present ubuntu partition? i am on a dual boot with win 7
[01:58] <Jenna> anyone here to chat?
[01:58] <spine55> I'm here
[01:58] <billythekid> titan: how many partitions are there?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  how big is the parittion?
[01:58] <Skrotniklas> I am logged in via vncviwer to my ubuntu server but I cannot lock the screen, I do not know if it works without vncviewer either, ideas?
[01:58] <Semitones> Jenna, we relax in #ubuntu-offtopic, we do technical chat here
[01:58] <bharat_> hey in the terminal wen i type su and type the password it says authentication failure
[01:58] <bharat_> how
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  wijdows 7 makes some little partiion that works similer to the /boot/ partion in linux
[01:59] <Jordan_U> !root | bharat_
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> bharat_:  use sudo  not su
[01:59] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, could i pastebin the results of my HDD info? there quite a few partitions. I want to merge a 9 GB partition with my current 10 GB
[01:59] <bharat_> oh ok i used to use debian and the command was su
[01:59] <billythekid> bharat: use "sudo su"
[01:59] <Jenna> ok thanx semitones
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  go ahead and pastebin the fdisk -l for others to see
[01:59] <Jenna> Cya
[01:59] <rahduke> grrr where can i go for helpwith testdisk??
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> bharat_:  use 'sudo -s' instead of 'sudo su'
[02:00] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: can u help?
[02:00] <Jenna> i  didnt know thaat because i am new to ubuntu
[02:00] <cwheeler> can I use an ubuntu kernel with ubuntu studio to troubleshoot a possible problem?
[02:00] <bharat_> Sweet it worked! :)
[02:00] <billythekid> dr: thankx
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  ive missed the problem.
[02:00] <bharat_> was tryinh to install the ati drivers
[02:00] <Semitones> Jenna, that's cool :) welcome to ubuntu!
[02:00] <Jenna> thanx
[02:00] <bharat_> thnx billy
[02:00] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: test disk is not picking up a drive that is totally screwed up.... Disk Utility does find it but it wont show up in testdisk...any help?? Please!
[02:00] <Jenna> may i ask a question?
[02:01] <billythekid> jenna: go ahead
[02:01] <gnuvince> I had rt3090-dkms <IP_ADDRESS> installed for my wireless card and everything worked great.  One upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS> and now I get kernel panics.  I tried installing the <IP_ADDRESS> deb by hand, but it won't compile.  Any other way I can get it?
[02:01] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: is there way to tell testdsk to check /dev/sdb for example?
[02:01] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/377289/
[02:01] <Jenna> how do i make the words bigger on my screen and the pages
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  ive not used testdisk enough to even rember its syntax
[02:01] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: thats my issue i think...
[02:02] <billythekid> jenna: what does your desktop look like?
[02:02] <billythekid> jenna: is it brown?
[02:02] <freebsdlover> lol whats that got to do with anything billy?
[02:02] <Jenna>  uhh i changed it
[02:02] <billythekid> kde vs gnome
[02:02] <Jenna> are you asking about the verizon?
[02:02] <Semitones> Jenna, found it?
[02:02] <Soul_Sample> freebsdlover: i think he's trying to determine which DE she's using
[02:03] <IdleOne> !ot | billythekid
[02:03] <freebsdlover> lol..
[02:03] <bharat_> and theres this other issue, i have a dell studio 1555, the brightness keys and the eject button dont work :(
[02:03] <billythekid> ubottu: huh?
[02:03] <billythekid> ah
[02:03] <Soul_Sample> lol
[02:03] <billythekid> yep
[02:04] <billythekid> does anyone know if bcmwl <IP_ADDRESS> is being packaged for karmic?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  Looking at testdisk --help -> it can take a 'device'
[02:04] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, anything?
[02:04] <Jenna> does anyone know how to make font and size bigger
[02:04] <bharat_> i've tried changing the grub thing and still doesnt work...
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  What fileysstem is the disk anyway?
[02:04] <billythekid> jenna: increase resolution
[02:04] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: it doesn't, it doesnt allow me to point to to the location
[02:04] <Soul_Sample> Jenna: system>preferences>appearance>fonts?
[02:05] <billythekid> jenna: rather, decrease i should say
[02:05] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: it's a Scsi NTFS
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  you are not using /dev/sda when it should be /dev/sda1 ?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  which partion are you worried about?
[02:05] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: the filesystem is so corrupted it wont goto /dev/sda1
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  or i may have that backwards  may need to be sda instead of sda1
[02:05] <rahduke> Disk utility is telling its its at /dev/sda
[02:06] <morrison> hello, does anyone mite have an idea why fire fox is displaying web-pages with blurry images, and text that is like way too big for the page?
[02:06] <Damianos> will using the alt cd and selecting rescue broken system screw up my network settings?
[02:06] <billythekid> jenna: {from memory} click on System -> Preferences
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  Not sure what else to try. Ive rarely done much disk recovery.
[02:06] <Semitones> !info bcmwl | billythekid
[02:06] <almoxarife> billythekid: bcmwl-modaliases <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu2 in http://goo.gl/tLKZ
[02:06] <rahduke> does anyone know anything bout recovery from scsi drives?
[02:07] <billythekid> morrison: sounds like ff has had its preferences changed
[02:07] <Jenna> hang on brb
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  you could try to 'ddrescue' it to a file and try to recover files from that imagefile
[02:07] <rahduke> Dr_Willis: ill look into thanks!
[02:07] <morrison> is there a way to set the defaults back
[02:08] <billythekid> morrison: try hitting the CTRL+- key combinatino
[02:08] <almoxarife> just how screwed could things get if one ppa'ed the lucid universe into karmic?
[02:08] <billythekid> almo: probably bad
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> almoxarife:  reinstall may be required
[02:09] <billythekid> morrison: may need to hit that several times
[02:09] <Jenna> i am back
[02:09] <billythekid> it "zooms out"
[02:09] <Jenna> how do i change the screen resolution?
[02:09] <morrison> yeah it's not correcting the issues
[02:09] <morrison> i did that
[02:09] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, http://imagebin.ca/view/ZESIxY.html , http://paste.ubuntu.com/377289/
[02:09] <billythekid> jenna: think its in the system menu under preferences
[02:10] <morrison> but still parts of the site are not being displayer
[02:10] <morrison> but still parts of the site are not being displayed
[02:10] <almoxarife> billythekid: I guess I wouldn't recommend that pckg for karmic then, if that is what you are running, then again, vbox box it and try?
[02:10] <Soul_Sample> Jenna: have you even tried looking under system>preferences?
[02:10] <Semitones> jenna: preferences: display
[02:10] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, i want to use the 9.7 GB unallocated partition
[02:10] <billythekid> jenna: running on a different desktop, so cant remember the exact names
[02:10] <Jenna> yes
[02:10] <Semitones> many things are pretty logically organized :p
[02:11] <billythekid> almo: need it for 9.10 on a dell T5500
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  fire up gparted and see what it shows the disk layout to be. Palimpsest is a little vague in ways
[02:11] <Jenna> ok
[02:11] <billythekid> almo: using a dell wireless PCI cared
[02:11] <billythekid> card
[02:11] <Jenna> i looked under display and there is nothing
[02:11] <_josh> I have an issue with Ubuntu where if I alt-tab to a window (e.g. Firefox, Pidgin IM window), sometimes I can't type.  If I alt-tab away and alt-tab back, I can type again; anyone else with this problem?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  if its at the end of the disk next to the recovery partion - that may make using it a little harder
[02:11] <almoxarife> billythekid: get the card ini from the xp/win side?
[02:11] <darolu> Is it possible to mount an ext3 hard drive using 7.04 LiveCD of Ubuntu? I don't remember if ext3 already exsited back then.
[02:12] <Trek> got issues with Java, how can I get java working on Ubuntu 9.04 with Firefox?  I've got the packages (and dependencies for) sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk
[02:12] <billythekid> almo: not an option
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  i dont really see the unalocatged space in th fdisk -l output.
[02:12] <billythekid> almo: box locks up about every 5 minutes with the updated dcmwl under 9.01
[02:12] <billythekid> almo: box locks up about every 5 minutes with the updated dcmwl under 9.10
[02:13] <kavurt> I just installed karmic on a 16'' toshiba. there's only 1024x768 resolution available. how to fix it?
[02:13] <billythekid> almo: others i work with have same issue
[02:13] <almoxarife> billythekid: set the card up on a machine with xp/win, get the ini and then delete the card from it?
[02:13] <Trek> got issues with Java, how can I get java working on Ubuntu 9.04 with Firefox?  I've got the packages (and dependencies for) sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk, yet it refuses to run on the web.
[02:13] <billythekid> almo: problem goes away with card out of box
[02:13] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, Okay. i think i need to install gparted. would a apt-get install work?
[02:13] <Semitones> Jenna, what happens when you go to display?
[02:14] <billythekid> almo: users on Win with latest driver have issue go away
[02:14] <josiah> anyone have problems with updating Portable Ubuntu to v. 9 ?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  yes
[02:14] <billythekid> almo: thus, the latest driver fixes
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> josiah:  'portable ubuntu' ?
[02:14] <josiah> yah
[02:14] <josiah> i made a compromise
[02:14] <josiah> cuz i dont need linux that much
[02:14] <Jenna> it says i coped and pasted it here
[02:15] <josiah> theres a versio of ubuntu that runs on CoLinux and integrates with Windows
[02:15] <billythekid> almo: card is a Dell 1505
[02:16] <almoxarife> you mean machine is dell?
[02:16] <billythekid> almo: failed to mention, Win users had lock ups with older driver also
[02:16] <Trek> got issues with Java, how can I get java working on Ubuntu 9.04 with Firefox?  I've got the packages (and dependencies for) sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk, yet it refuses to run on the web.
[02:16] <billythekid> almo: no card is dell 1505
[02:16] <Semitones> Trek, iirc there's a plugin you need as well
[02:16] <billythekid> (made by broadcom)
[02:16] <Semitones> !java ?
[02:16] <Semitones> :(
[02:16] <Trek> Semitones: system's not recognizing it, could you point me in the right direction?
[02:17] <IdleOne> Trek: sun-java6-plugin
[02:17] <Jenna> it appers that your grapics driver does noot support the nessacary exstentions to use this tool do you want to use your graphics driver vendors tool instead?
[02:17] <Semitones> there was a guide somewhere..
[02:17] <billythekid> almo: 5 users total with lock ups
[02:17] <Semitones> Jenna, click yes :)
[02:17] <billythekid> almo: gone after update to latest
[02:17] <billythekid> brb
[02:17] <Jenna> ok
[02:18] <Semitones> Jenna, now what do you see?
[02:18] <Lee_Ubun> Anyone stil use DapperDrake
[02:18] <almoxarife> billythekid:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff ??
[02:19] <Semitones> Lee_Ubun, dang, kickin' it old school
[02:19] <Lee_Ubun> Ha just wanted to know
[02:19] <Jenna> IT IS GIVING ME 12 DIFFERENT SUBJECTS
[02:19] <Jenna> srry about the caps
[02:21] <Semitones> Jenna, yeah, it looks confusing here too --
[02:21] <jonex> how i change room
[02:21] <darolu> Is it possible to mount an ext3 hard drive using 7.04 LiveCD of Ubuntu? I don't remember if ext3 already exsited back then.
[02:21] <Semitones> Jenna, ok, see where it says X Server Display Configureation on the side? Screen Resolution is in there
[02:22] <qfluid> hi, anyone familiar with ivman? I want to mount by label if label is nonempty, otherwise mount by device name, so I have this in my config: http://pastebin.com/m7dcbb75c
[02:22] <MilitantPotato> jonex: type /join #roomname
[02:22] <qfluid> but after reading the man page, can't figure out how to do "else"?
[02:22] <Skrotniklas> If I exit vncviwer, does ubuntu automaticly log the user out?
[02:22] <jonex> MilitanPotato: thanks
[02:23] <jonex> anyone knw about mac rooms?
[02:23] <almoxarife> Skrotniklas: should not
[02:23] <Semitones> jonex, ##mac
[02:23] <Jenna> i did it thnx
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  how did you start the vnc 'service' ?
[02:23] <Jenna> =)
[02:23] <jonex> Semitones: there nobody there lol
[02:24] <JonathanEllis> Can I add a repository from the command line without editing sources.lst? I mean can I give a command that will add a repository if I know the deb line?
[02:24] <Semitones> jonex, haha really? try ##apple then
[02:24] <Trek> Semitones: I found the plugin, i hope it workes
[02:24] <Muraki> Where should I go if I am looking for help getting a dell wireless card working on a precision M90 laptop. It's giving me troubles.
[02:24] <JonathanEllis> !repository
[02:24] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: I am connected via putty and ssh if that is what you mean?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  then how does 'vnc' figure into this?
[02:25] <Semitones> Trek, let me know -- I had *oodles of trobule getting mine to work -- Java used to be terrible with 64 bits
[02:25] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: I tunnel vncviewer via putty and ssh:-)
[02:26] <Muraki> Is there a channel I can go to for help with a dell precision M90 wireless card?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  and how did you start the vnc SERVICE ? 'vncserver' command ?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  or are you using the gnome desktop built in vnc SERVER feature?
[02:26] <Trek> Semitones: i use 32 bit, i installed these packages: sun-java6-jre, sun-java6-jdk, sun-java6-plugin, and its dependencies with Synaptic
[02:26] <pcuser> offtopic url?
[02:26] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: Manually in the terminal
[02:26] <Guest83750> ok guys ive got a huge freaking problem, ive installed ubuntu 9.10, and on the login screen ive got an old fashioned login: and password: text and the screen is flashing like crazy
[02:26] <Semitones> Trek, did it work?
[02:26] <Guest83750> any ideas?
[02:26] <almoxarife> Muraki: try this, someone else had a dell card issue, this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[02:27] <pcuser> ?
[02:27] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: Vncserver
[02:27] <Trek> Semitones: it did
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  if you ran 'vncserver' then it should keep the vnc desktop alive if you just close the client. If you LOGOUT of the desktop it should close the vncserver as well
[02:27] <Semitones> Trek, awesome!
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  try reconnecting and see if it sstill there
[02:27] <Semitones> pcuser, are you looking for #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:27] <Trek> Semitones: I didnt realize there was a plugin, once I knew that it was helpful
[02:27] <Trek> !ot | pcuser
[02:27] <Guest83750> does anyone here know about ubuntu 9.10?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  the peristant 'featre' of vnc  is very handy at times
[02:27] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: Well that is the problem, for some reason I cannot log out....
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  what desktop are you using in vnc?
[02:27] <Trek> if that helps, pcuser
[02:27] <Jenna> it worked thanx so much guys
[02:28] <buzzaldrin> guys id really like help with this if anyone knows ://
[02:28] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: Gnome
[02:28] <blakkheim> !please | buzzaldrin
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  you could always just manually kill the vncserver,
[02:28] <lonnie> cool, it did it
[02:28] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: Yes but that is not very convinient
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  also if running gnome as  the same user More then Once.. you an have some odd quirks. ie: if its running on the remote box, and as a vncserver ont he remote box. or if you got more then 1 vncserver running gnome
[02:29] <eshannon> Anyone help me with a new Hard drive? I installed new HD > Partitioned it > Formatted EXT 3. I am able to mount it and open it. I don't have permissions to create folders or anything
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  i never run gnome - it just lags vnc too much for me. I use very light desktops/wms in vnc
[02:30] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: I may have several vncservers running, I-ll check that
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Skrotniklas:  its veyr easy to get several running by mistake
[02:31] <darolu> !fstab | eshannon
[02:32] <eshannon> ty
[02:32] <lonnie> Guys, just played pretty cool Linux game for the first time and thought I'd pass it along.
[02:32] <almoxarife> why not kill the vnc server as the last act on vnc? I drove 30 miles one time cause I told the machine to shut down via vnc, not smart
[02:32] <buzzaldrin> Is anybody here good with troubleshooting Ubuntu 9.10? I've got a bad problem
[02:32] <lonnie> sudo apt-get install neverputt
[02:32] <lonnie> it is a really cool put put golf game with crazy obstacles at times
[02:33] <lonnie> enjoy
[02:33] <Skrotniklas> Dr_Willis: I killed a second vncserver but I still cannot log out, I cannot lock the screen either.
[02:33] <almoxarife> I am waiting for virtual opensource linux full contact golf
[02:33] <frankS2> Anyone know if there is anything like "yttalk" just for even more participants?
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> almoxarife:  vnc runs a script to do the startup/stuff to run. if that script never exists.. then vncserver wont.
[02:33] <lonnie> what is yttalk?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> almoxarife:   depending on how things run, you can get a vnc desktop with just X going. which is a bit of a pain
[02:34] <grndslm> it's that time of the year where i reevaluate 64bit linux/ubuntu...
[02:34] <grndslm> what do you guys think?
[02:34] <phillip> im new to the whole linux world... im trying to install plesk but have never used the terminal command line interface before
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  been using 64bit here for about 2+ years now with no hassles that i can rember
[02:35] <lonnie> phillip, try:    sudo apt-get install plesk
[02:35] <phillip> ok
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  lastest benchmark tests/articals  ive seen bsicaly say use 64bit if you can
[02:35] <phillip> i got an error message could not find plesk
[02:35] <grndslm> Dr_Willis... well, if i have an ssd... is 64bit advantage all that great anymore?
[02:35] <grndslm> i'm thinking prolly not
[02:36] <sslaccessrocks> anyone know of an easy way to install *.deb as non-root in Ubuntu?
[02:36] <grndslm> sslaccessrocks:  impossible
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i dont see how the type of hard disk would matter  in the 64 vs 32 bit debate
[02:36] <grndslm> unless you're referring to using sudo, which is still root
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  its about processing speeds/progrm speeds/memory access
[02:36] <grndslm> Dr_Willis.... well... i mean benefit of 64bit is mostly compiling
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  compiling? Not at all.
[02:37] <grndslm> memory access comes into play only when more than 4gb, tho, eh?
[02:37] <phillip> i downloaded the package from the site in tar.gz format
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  thats one are it helps in. but not the only
[02:37] <lonnie> phillip, that won't work. Check this out: http://www.parallels.com/download/plesk/products/
[02:37] <lonnie> I've never heard of plesk, but I don't think it is in the repository.
[02:37] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, basically... i don't see how i could possibly get more of an improvement than this ssd i just got
[02:38] <lonnie> oh, I see.
[02:38] <grndslm> so if there's still issues with packages not being made for 64bit... i guess i'll have to stick with 32bit :(
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  its not about drive access. its about data processing.  If th
[02:38] <lonnie> double click it.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i can think of 1 program ive not found in 64bit
[02:38] <lonnie> then drag and drop its contents to decompress
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=1
[02:38] <grndslm> right... but in realworld scenarios, ssd torque is more important than 64bit horsepower if you HAD to pick between the two
[02:38] <phillip> i did it'll install one by one but it doesnt seem like it should be like that
[02:38] <buzzaldrin> ok guys, well im going to try to reinstall ubuntu but make it not require me to log in, ill tell you how it goes
[02:39] <judget> is there a win32 opessh client?
[02:39] <lonnie> were you doing it with super user privileges?
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> cd sudo
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i do video reencodeing. and 64bit helps me more then 32bit would.. I dint see how ssd really affexts it all.
[02:39] <Seven_Six_Two> lol...sorry
[02:39] <lonnie> phillip, send me the file.
[02:39] <phillip> how do i make super user privs
[02:39] <lonnie> I'll look at it.
[02:40] <lucas_> hey all, i have a litle question, which opengl mode is the best for desktop effects on kde?
[02:40] <phillip> i tried going to the user account section
[02:40] <lonnie> sometimes you can do it by right clicking the executible file
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  thers some more up to date bencmhark articals then that one.. i saw a good one the other day at that site i think
[02:40] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, "video reencoding" i can understand
[02:40] <lonnie> and setting the execute privilige
[02:40] <grndslm> i think that boxee is not released in 64bit for linux yet!
[02:40] <zanberdo> I'm trying to build a project from source. I'm passing gcc -lnet but ld informs me that ld: can not find -lnet. What development package will satisfy the -lnet directive?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  and video playback if the players support it properly
[02:40] <grndslm> that's one example, but i'm not 1% on that
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  boxxee has 64bit
[02:40] <grndslm> *100%
[02:40] <grndslm> hmm...
[02:40] <lonnie> another way I do it, is like this    sudo nautilus
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i got it installed here.
[02:40] <grndslm> wow... well, i guess it's worth a shot then
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  latest geexbox/enna has 64bit also
[02:41] <lonnie> That opens up the file browser with you having super priv.
[02:41] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, what is the one package you were talking about that didn't install??
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i can think of ONE app (zsnes) thats not 64bit
[02:41] <lonnie> then navigate the folder you unzipped
[02:41] <grndslm> hmm... that's kinda whack
[02:41] <lonnie> then try installing
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  iuts because that program uses 32bit assembly for speed on old machines
[02:41] <sslaccessrocks> judget: yes, using cygwin
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  its like 80% assembly code. :)
[02:41] <phillip> the file is 650mbs
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  ters other snes emulators that work just as well
[02:41] <sslaccessrocks> grndslm: it is possible to make programs from source without root and install to user folders, why not *.deb?
[02:42] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, so multimedia codes, flash, java, etc. are all traditional "aptitude install" or whatever your preferred installer :) ??
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i use my 63bit systems sae as i do the 32bit - i rarely notice any differancwe in the ussage at all
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  same install commands and so forth.
[02:42] <Trek> Dr_Willis: you mean 62-bit
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Install ubuntu ubuntu-restricted-extras and away i go
[02:42] <Trek> Dr_Willis: you mean 64-bit*
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Trek:  C64
[02:43] <grndslm> sslaccessrocks, "install to user folders" is deceiving terminology... if you just want to unpack it... "unp" is a great program i use to unpack most things, pretty sure it works for deb to... then you can move the files wherever you have permissions to, of course
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:43] <tottiq> lol
[02:43] <lonnie> phillip, install this too:    sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu
[02:43] <lonnie> that eases you ability to do things a super user from the gui
[02:43] <phillip> ok
[02:43] <wolf2k_ubuntu> Evening. Silly reminder needed...how do I go about installing an input method editor for things such as japanese support?
[02:43] <zanberdo> nm
[02:43] <sslaccessrocks> grndslm: and these files will be already compiled, made, and make installed?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  heres a newer artical -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[02:44] <grndslm> sslaccessrocks, ask the guy who created the package!!  :)
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> compare the performance of Linux between using 32-bit, 32-bit PAE, and 64-bit kernels.  ---> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[02:44] <almoxarife> sslaccessrocks: imagine a self installing deb, what is another name for that?
[02:44] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, that reminds me.. what does PAE stand for?
[02:44] <phillip> ok it installed
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> almoxarife:  thers the autopackage and some other odd formats that no one ever uses any more it seems :)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  lets 32bit get more then 4gb of ram access
[02:45] <M25> I'm looking for a virtual midi keyboard (the kind with octaves, not enter keys), that works without using Jack.  Any recommendations?
[02:45] <unperson> My (possibly incorrect) understanding is the hibernate writes RAM contents to the swap partition.  Is it possible to setup the OS to not use a swap partition for virtual memory but still be able to hibernate?
[02:45] <grndslm> ahh... was wondering how i got access to that extra .8gb or whatever it was!!
[02:45] <grndslm> neato
[02:45] <sslaccessrocks> almoxarife: i don't need it to be self installing, just installed to a user folder without root access involved
[02:45] <unperson> i.e., still have a partition for hibernation but use it only for that purpose.
[02:45] <lonnie> phillip, with that install (may require reboot to take effect, don't know) each thing you right-click on  in the file broswer, should have an "open as admin" option
[02:46] <grndslm> sslaccessrocks, what .deb is this?
[02:46] <almoxarife> sslaccessrocks: exactly, suffer a bit, give it your password
[02:46] <phillip> nice
[02:46] <sslaccessrocks> grndslm: any *.deb file, not one program in particular
[02:46] <sslaccessrocks> almoxarife: i have no root access on this computer
[02:46] <almoxarife> sslaccessrocks: exactly
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  in some cases 32bit  kernel with PAE is worse then just the 32bit kernel
[02:46] <sslaccessrocks> almoxarife: why i asked
[02:47] <almoxarife> sslaccessrocks: that comp have an owner?
[02:47] <grndslm> sslaccessrocks, "sudo aptitude install unp"  then you can just "unp any.deb" and it will strip naked for you :D
[02:47] <sslaccessrocks> grndslm: i can't sudo (root access required), im compiling from source
[02:48] <almoxarife> grndslm: he can't sudo
[02:48] <phillip> #plesk
[02:48] <grndslm> he just said he didn't want to sudo to install
[02:48] <lonnie> phillip, if you want to benefit from my experience, you can install everything I've ever need on ubuntu, with this one command:    http://pastebin.com/fb1bc46a
[02:48] <almoxarife> grndslm: he forgot to say he can't sudo
[02:48] <lonnie> will take while to download, but it will all install
[02:48] <grndslm> ;)
[02:48] <M25> sslaccessrocks: do you have all the libraries/dependencies for the program?  then you can compile with make run instead of make install
[02:49] <sslaccessrocks> M25: yeah, its a perl script, so no compilation needed :)
[02:49] <M25> sslaccessrocks: do you have perl?
[02:49] <unperson> A related question:  Is it possible to use, say, an external drive for swap (I would think so), and if so, any idea what would happen should that disk be absent at boot?
[02:49] <lonnie> at one point, though, you will have to interact to get the java runtime installed
[02:49] <sslaccessrocks> M25: yes, its installed by default in ubuntu
[02:49] <lonnie> but it will be menu driven
[02:50] <sslaccessrocks> grndslm: thanks, that software fixed my problems i believe, i can now install *.deb without root access in ubuntu; thanks again
[02:50] <grndslm> unperson, external drive = bad idea, for usb is slow
[02:50] <M25> sslaccessrocks: you said you were compiling from source... but you also said it's a perl script that didn't need compiling... I missed something
[02:50] <sslaccessrocks> M25: found out after i said that it was perl script (when the ./configure didn't register :) )
[02:50] <almoxarife> M25: exactly
[02:50] <grndslm> sure thing :)
[02:50] <unperson> grndslm, Yes, I agree with you as a general matter.
[02:51] <phillip> ok cool
[02:51] <unperson> grndslm, I'm debating what to do with my eeepc 4G.  It has 2 GB of RAM and only 4 GB of internal SSD storage.  I was thinking of using an SD card for swap.
[02:52] <wick94> hey
[02:52] <unperson> grndslm, I don't actually know about how the throughput to each of those compares on the eee (obviously depends in part on the SD card).
[02:52] <danbhfive> unperson: do you need swap?
[02:52] <lonnie> swap what?
[02:52] <unperson> grndslm, I suspect you're right that it would be a bad idea in any case.
[02:52] <j00bar> i upgraded from intrepid to karmic today, and my software raid setup just stops working on bootup. i get the "gave up waiting for root device" error. none of the workaround on #290153 seem to help. anything new on this front?
[02:52] <wick94> http://ospalace.blogspot.com
[02:52] <wick94> go open source or go home, lol
[02:53] <grndslm> unperson, go with out it!  just reboot when necessary... like right-click the panel and add the system monitor... right click that and enable the "memory, swap, network, disk, etc." graphs
[02:53] <unperson> danbhfive, I assume I probably could (and should) do without it.  The real issue is that I'd love to be able to hibernate.
[02:53] <wick94> what's the new feature coming in 10.04
[02:53] <wick94> features*
[02:53] <grndslm> unperson, is hibernating really necessary when you've got an ssd?
[02:54] <rww> wick94: discussion and support for 10.04 belongs in #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <wick94> ok
[02:54] <wick94> thnx rww
[02:54] <titan_ark> Dr_Willis, doesnt work. i cannot unmount home so :(
[02:54] <danbhfive> unperson: ah, I see.  Then yeah, why not use an sd card as swap.  It may destroy the card though
[02:54] <unperson> grndslm, I think it would be faster than the boot process (which may limited by the CPU rather than the storage speed).
[02:55] <_CommandeR_> how do i change tty font?
[02:55] <kenthree_> is there a server version of the mini iso? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD I can't find it
[02:55] <unperson> danbhfive, Right.  My thinking was that if I destroy an SD card it's no big deal.
[02:55] <grndslm> yea, atom processors are pretty slow aren't they?  i'd still figure it'd boot in less than 40 sec, tho
[02:55] <unperson> danbhfive, If I destroyed the internal memory it'd be a lot worse.
[02:55] <calvenatus> Hello, I need to download the ubuntu repos for use in a remote area without internet access with karmic koala, is this: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/ what i should be aiming for ? is there a better option ?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> titan_ark:  ive frogotton what you are even trying to do
[02:56] <unperson> danbhfive, It may be possible to do hibernate without using swap for virtual memory.  Or else I could at least set swappiness to zero.
[02:56] <parastatic> Hey everyone I have a quick question if anyone has the time at the moment.
[02:56] <Semitones> go for it
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  i find my atom based netbook to be rather speedy.. but it is one of my newest machines :)
[02:57] <danbhfive> unperson: ya, sounds good
[02:57] <bipolar> Can someone help me with this preseed file? http://pastebin.com/d72de06ad The local[0,1] repos are not getting added to apt, and when it tries to install ssc-packages it fails since it doesn't have the repos.
[02:57] <parastatic> Okay I just got back into using something other then Windows.  :P  And only issue I have is my gfx.  In my Admin selection I dont see a restricted driver manager.  How do I go about finding that package?
[02:57] <JayStorm> hi
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> grndslm:  proberly a 30 sec or less boot time here. I rarely notice. i turn it on.. get out the mouse/mousepad.. and its  booted
[02:57] <unperson> danbhfive, The problem is that if I setup the SD card as swap and then it's absent I don't know what will happen.
[02:58] <danbhfive> unperson: hibernation will fail, that's it, right?
[02:58] <unperson> danbhfive, I have no idea if it will boot mostly normally with some error message or if the boot process will freeze or what.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> unperson:  you can have several swap entries in the fstab. they all will be used.   The boot always checks for a hibernation entry...
[02:59] <unperson> Dr_Willis, It's a good idea in principle, but in this case I don't think have any other space to use.
[02:59] <no-name_> hey i have installed 9.10 on a dell latitude lappy and cant get the display to go full screen.  can someone help?  thanks
[02:59] <grndslm> Dr_Willis, yup... takes my desktop about 25 sec to boot.  would prolly be less if i had linuxBIOS to just bypass hardware checks 8-)
[02:59] <bolivartech> does anyone know if there is an ubuntu 9.1 server cd with a lamp setup?
[03:00] <unperson> danbhfive, You mean if I tried to resume from hibernate without the SD card.  But generally I don't know what happens if you try to boot and the swap partition from fstab can't be mounted.
[03:00] <Greig^> Hey guys, a little question for anyone, I've recently installed 9.10, but I notice that web pages take long to load up, any tips?
[03:00] <jrib> bolivartech: during install, you can choose to setup lamp
[03:00] <almoxarife> Greig^: your internet is slow?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> 30 sec boot times vs 30+day uptimes on the server :)
[03:01] <danbhfive> unperson: nothing, I run without swap all the time
[03:01] <j00bar> i upgraded from intrepid to karmic today, and my software raid setup just stops working on bootup. i get the "gave up waiting for root device" error. none of the workaround on #290153 seem to help. anything new on this front?
[03:01] <bolivartech> jrib: i don't see that option, just install ubuntu or install cloud
[03:01] <jrib> !lamp | bolivartech
[03:01] <Maxdl1> any one here that can help a noooooob
[03:01] <unperson> grndslm, I don't know how the boot speed for UNR would compare to the speed of resuming from hibernation.  I guess ideally I'd like to install such that I can try out both options, so I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way to enable hibernation.
[03:01] <Greig^> almoxarife: i wish it was, so i knew where to begin, internet's fine, just taking a while to load dam pages :(
[03:02] <jrib> bolivartech: not a big deal.  It should be there though I haven't checked in karmic, but it's easy enough to run tasksel after you boot up...
[03:02] <Maxdl1> cannot get unbuntu to connect to wireless
[03:02] <bolivartech> jrib: i will try !lamp
[03:02] <no-name_> hey i have installed 9.10 on a dell latitude lappy and cant get the display to go full screen.  can someone help?  thanks
[03:02] <almoxarife> Greig^: you are comparing your web load up to another os on same machine?
[03:02] <unperson> danbhfive, I know you can run without swap just fine, which is what I assume you're doing.  I don't know what happens when the OS is set to use swap but can't find the partition.
[03:03] <Ahmuck> does anyone know how ibus is used in 9.10?
[03:03] <unperson> danbhfive, I've always had swap on the same physical disk as /, so it never came up.
[03:03] <bolivartech> just wanted to make sure it was setup properly as it's been a while
[03:03] <tenji> Hello out there... I am new to Ubuntu, Just installed it on my laptop. HP dv5000 series, and i can't seem to get my video card drivers.. Can anyone help me?
[03:03] <grndslm> unperson, gotcha... i wouldn't even be using UNR... so we clearly have different tastes -_-
[03:03] <rolsworth> is it possible to backup a ubuntu installation and restore it to another hard drive?
[03:03] <danbhfive> unperson: same thing when you don't have a partition at all.  It just attempts to use the memory it needs.  With 2g of ram, you won't notice anything
[03:03] <blakkheim> rolsworth: yes
[03:03] <danbhfive> unperson: unless of course you run allot of stuff...
[03:04] <rolsworth> how can i get that done
[03:04] <wolf2k_ubuntu> ...I guess my question wasn't seen.
[03:04] <Maxdl1> any one help pls
[03:04] <blakkheim> !info partimage | rolsworth
[03:04] <Greig^> almoxarife: yes to win7 but also to another, slower spec machine also running 9.10
[03:04] <unperson> danbhfive, Nah.  On the early eee's there's not enough CPU to run much.
[03:04] <DerKlempner> Anyone familiar with NFS and firewalls?  I've got a doozy of a problem concerning NFS setup and ufw.
[03:05] <unperson> danbhfive, The physical RAM ought to be plenty, it was just a question of getting hibernation sorted.
[03:05] <almoxarife> Greig^: what browser in ubuntu?
[03:06] <Greig^> almoxarife: firefox
[03:06] <Maxdl1> if anyone can help me pls pm me
[03:06] <danbhfive> unperson: yeah, I don't think you are going to have any nonobvious issues
[03:06] <Greig^> almoxarife: I've also tried chrome but still as slow
[03:06] <EEMPHASISS> Hi, I want to clone some partitions, what should I use?  Is something like  "cp -a  /home/*  /media/homenew/"  OK? or should I use something else?
[03:07] <hexmare> evening all
[03:07] <blakkheim> !info partimage | EEMPHASISS
[03:07] <unperson> grndslm, Perhaps.  The thing is that the eee has a) a slow CPU, b) a very small screen, and c) not much internal storage space, so it seems that an OS that takes those limitations into account is desirable.
[03:07] <almoxarife> Greig^: not sure this will help, nothing helps a slow connection, I did see a slight increase in page refresh after I installed 'dnsmasq' it's a caching app
[03:07] <unperson> grndslm, Point b) is sometimes the biggest problem, strangely.
[03:07] <wolf2k_ubuntu> I'll try asking again. Without having to copy and paste kanji such as 無, what do I require to type kana/kanji natively on Gnome? Some of the guides that I've seen either seem to be targeting earlier versions or reference packages that are no longer available.
[03:08] <Maxdl1> Help pls picks up wireless connection but wont connect
[03:08] <Greig^> almoxarife: thanks, i'll check that out
[03:08] <DerKlempner> Anyone familiar with NFS and firewalls?  I've got a doozy of a problem concerning NFS shares and ufw.
[03:08] <jrib> people, if you want help, stop being vague and just ask your question
[03:08] <almoxarife> Greig^: chrome is faster than firefox too :)
[03:09] <hexmare> is there any particular reason why X always resorts to 800x600 , instead of the mod 5040x1050 that I have configured it for?
[03:09] <bolivartech> ok I see the they've changed it, made it a package you choose during installation. Thanks for the link!
[03:09] <unperson> danbhfive, Cool.  I appreciate your perspective on it.  I may just give it a go.  The only thing I have to determine is whether it's possible to make the swap partition available only for hibernation and not virtual memory.
[03:09] <Damianos> I have a sever boot issue....I tried to use the alt cd to reinstall grub and got a fatal error
[03:09] <Maxdl1> noob here just installed ubuntu and it picks up wireless but doesnt connect afte put wepkey in
[03:09] <Damianos> Ubuntu will not boot
[03:10] <almoxarife> Maxdl1: you sure you have the right key?
[03:10] <danbhfive> !swap | unperson this page has the commands for swappiness
[03:10] <Maxdl1> yes its the same key on bottom of dsl modem/router
[03:11] <dean> hola
[03:11] <LizardK|ng> swap doesn't make your system go faster
[03:11] <almoxarife> Maxdl1: unless the key was changed
[03:11] <Themarker0> Hello, hi everyone, anyone here know off the top of their heads how to configure the DHCP after the fact of installing ubuntu server 8.04 ?
[03:11] <Maxdl1> im a noo with this system but every othe pc connects
[03:11] <LizardK|ng> no more than flame stickers make your motorcycle go faster
[03:11] <Elive_user58_en> i got a problem, i installed ubuntu 9.10 onto my dell dimension 2400, and the screen resolution is 800 x 648, but when i had ubuntu 9.04 i had 1024 x 768 resolution, how can i fix it?
[03:12] <grndslm> unperson, right... i'd buy a $100-130 SSD (30-60gb OCZ with rebates) and drop that in there.... reinstall real ubuntu... and if you have issues with the lesser pixels (screen res), you can always *hold* ALT + CLICK anywhere on the window and DRAG with mouse whenever you'd like!
[03:12] <almoxarife> Maxdl1: the setup for wifi, does the router do the dhcp?
[03:12] <grndslm> unperson, the screen res is the reason a netbook + windows are no fun.... but on linux, you can drag windows around by holding alt, and clicking anywhere in the window to drag... very nice! :)
[03:12] <rolsworth> this partimage seems doesn't seem to have a GUI
[03:13] <jrib> rolsworth: it does
[03:13] <unperson> grndslm, Yeah. I know about the alt key thing, but that gets old fast, trust me.
[03:13] <Themarker0> Hello, hi everyone, anyone here know off the top of their heads how to configure the DHCP after the fact of installing ubuntu server 8.04 ?
[03:13] <unperson> grndslm, I mean, if it's a dialog in an app you use often.
[03:13] <Guest79841> to run animated wall paper(matrix) i have installed xwinwrap and the following command "xwinwrap -ov -fs -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root -window-id WID". it does not work properly rather it has added two panel on the right and left side of my pc and there has no option to remove these panel. what can i do? plz help.
[03:13] <jason_> hi all, I just did a fresh install of 9.10 with home dir encryption and I want to install dropbox. Do I have to worry that my dropbox files on other computers will become encrypted. (This is probably good, I just want to know what I'm getting into).
[03:14] <Maxdl1> still the same key as the rest of the pcs
[03:14] <Maxdl1> spins the wants me to enter it again
[03:14] <Elive_user58_en> i installed ubuntu 9.10 onto my dell dimension 2400, and the screen resolution is 800 x 648, but when i had ubuntu 9.04 i had 1024 x 768 resolution, how can i fix it?
[03:14] <wolf2k_ubuntu> ...I may have something. Restarting the VM
[03:15] <jrib> jason_: no, they won't end up encrypted
[03:15] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, have a look in System->preferences->display
[03:15] <no-name_> hey i have installed 9.10 on a dell latitude lappy and cant get the display to go full screen.  can someone help?  thanks
[03:15] <Guest79841> to run animated wall paper(matrix) i have installed xwinwrap and the following command "xwinwrap -ov -fs -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root -window-id WID". it does not work properly rather it has added two panel on the right and left side of my pc and there has no option to remove these panel. what can i do? plz help.
[03:15] <EEMPHASISS>  Hi, I want to clone some partitions from one drive to another, I don't have room to use partimage.   Is  "cp -dpr  /home/*  /media/homenew/"  OK? or should I use something else?
[03:15] <jason_> jrib: thanks - that makes life easier (if less secure :) )
[03:15] <Themarker0> Cab anyone help? Anyone know off the top of their heads how to configure the DHCP after the fact of installing ubuntu server 8.04 ?
[03:16] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: I don't understand how you can't have room to use partimage, how do you intend to clone the partition then?
[03:16] <dro> what open source wiki's do you guys run on your ubuntu servers? I tried twiki but it seems overly complicated and I've read a bunch of bad reviews about it
[03:16] <jrib> dro: I like moinmoin, it's what's at help.ubuntu.com/community
[03:16] <Guest79841> to run animated wall paper(matrix) i have installed xwinwrap and the following command "xwinwrap -ov -fs -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root -window-id WID". it does not work properly rather it has added two panel on the right and left side of my pc and there has no option to remove these panel. what can i do? plz help.
[03:17] <Themarker0> @dro, moinmoinmoin and media wifi are good also
[03:17] <jrib> Guest79841: stop repeating so often please
[03:17] <dro> jrib: sweeet i love the one ubuntu uses, I was actually wanting to use it but thought it was something custom
[03:17] <dro> Themarker0: ty also i will use moinmoin
[03:17] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: Just copy from /home/ which is on /dev/sd>>>a<<<5 to /media/homenew which is /dev/sd>>>b<<<5.
[03:18] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: is /home all of sda5?
[03:18] <knoppies> Guest23059, give me a sec, I should have a website on how to set that up with a nautilus script.
[03:18] <gee> moin zusammen
[03:18] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: maybe you aren't asking the right question.  What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[03:19] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: Yes: /home/ is the only mountpoint for sda5
[03:19] <bithash> dro: you can also try dokuwiki..super simple :)
[03:19] <unperson> jason_, I'd think no.
[03:19] <unperson> jason_, If it's reading the mounted FS, is should be getting a decrypted version, right?
[03:19] <unperson> jason_, Presumably the encryption is only important when trying to mount the FS or access those areas on the raw device.
[03:19] <unperson> jason_, But I'm no expert.
[03:19] <unperson> grndslm, I do agree that the problem is VASTLY better with ALT for move.  Having not used Windows in years now, I can't comment on how it does in that regard.
[03:19] <FloodBot2> unperson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <bipolar> Can someone help me with this preseed file? http://pastebin.com/d72de06ad The local[0,1] repos are not getting added to apt, and when it tries to install ssc-workstations it fails since it doesn't have the repos.
[03:19] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: right, I don't understand how you can say "I don't have room to use partimage" then
[03:19] <dro> bithash: ty
[03:19] <Guest79841> to run animated wall paper(matrix) i have installed xwinwrap and the following command "xwinwrap -ov -fs -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root -window-id WID". it does not work properly rather it has added two panel on the right and left side of my pc and there has no option to remove these panel. what can i do? plz help.
[03:20] <jrib> Guest79841: wait at least 10 minutes please.
[03:20] <taran> Windows is more stable than ubuntu!
[03:20] <gee> hello world
[03:20] <knoppies> Guest23059, have a look at http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Animated+Desktop+(With+XWINWRAP)+Fixed?content=104598
[03:20] <taran> Windows is more stable than ubuntu!
[03:20] <jrib> taran: I agree.  Go use it and leave us alone :)
[03:20] <knoppies> Guest23059, you might also like: http://compiz-themes.org/content/show.php/i-winwrap+(Animated+Desktop+Script)?content=104823
[03:20] <taran> its great that u agree
[03:20] <gee> Windows is more stable than ubuntu???????????
[03:20] <Elive_user58_en> knoppies, it only has 800 x 648, none other
[03:21] <jrib> taran: anyway, if you want to stay, please keep it related to ubuntu support only
[03:21] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: where do I put the image?  /home/ is 60GB & nearly full.  /media/homenew/ is an empty 100Gb partition on a new drive.
[03:21] <taran> yeah I get errors all the time in ubuntu
[03:21] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, you have a problem I had a while ago, give me a sec while I find the fix.
[03:21] <taran> But not windows
[03:21] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: so put the image in /media/homenew?
[03:21] <knoppies> taran, sounds like a bad install, Ive always had it the other way around.
[03:21] <no-name_> i have installed 9.10 on a dell latitude and am havin g trouble friguring out the display.  cant get it to full screen.  can someone help with this.?
[03:21] <taran> The problem with windows is viruses
[03:21] <Elive_user58_en> ok
[03:22] <jrib> taran: that's fine.  This channel is only for ubuntu support though.  If you want help with the actual errors, then let us know what they are exactly
[03:22] <gee> problem with ubuntu is sondconfiguration ^^
[03:22] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, run the following command, then restart your PC. Hope it helps: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <Explore2> Hi all, i can ping google and yahoo but when i try installing the packages i need it doesnt
[03:22] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: doesn't /media/homenew/ need to be an empty drive for the restore command?
[03:22] <taran> Think its the ATI drivers
[03:22] <Explore2> i tried update --fix-missing, still it doesnt..any help?
[03:22] <Elive_user58_en> ok, running now...
[03:23] <wolf2k_ubuntu> こんいちわ  All I needed was a restart it looks like.
[03:23] <xTheGoat121x> Evening everyone
[03:23] <taran> Windows & rocks !
[03:23] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: what you just said makes no sense to me.  You just need to make sure sda5 is not mounted and let partimage save the image somewhere in your filesystem (/media/homenew in this case).  But you never answered my question about what you really want to do so there may be a better way to do whatever it is you really want to do
[03:24] <taran> Windows 7 rocks !
[03:24] <knoppies> taran, then go find the windows 7 channel.
[03:24] <Explore2> Hi all, i can ping google and yahoo but when i try installing the packages i need it doesnt, any help please..!
[03:24] <knoppies> Explore2, it sounds like your "sources" are not in order.
[03:25] <Themarker0> @dro, moinmoinmoin and media wifi are good also
[03:25] <knoppies> Explore2, have a look in System -> administration -> Software Sources
[03:25] <Themarker0> Hello, hi everyone, anyone here know off the top of their heads how to configure the DHCP after the fact of installing ubuntu server 8.04 ?
[03:25] <Trizicus> When I have a java application going I can only hear sound from that application. When I exit that application I can hear sounds from other applications. How do I fix this?
[03:25] <jrib> Themarker0: I don't think anything special has to be done...
[03:26] <Explore2> knoppies: i went to s/w management as i am on 9.10
[03:26] <taran> \just use windows server 2008
[03:26] <Explore2> what do i need to check now?
[03:26] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: want to move away from sda which is starting to have retries on its reads.  sdb is new drive.  Eventually want to move other partitions there, too, then shelve the old drive.  sda layout is crap, so I don't simply want to clone te whole drive.
[03:26] <knoppies> Explore2, let me go look on my 9.10 install.
[03:26] <dragon_> i respectfully request some assistance with an /etc/fstab with a cifs file share...  I am not sure why I can not get FULL access to the share.  I can read/write all day long.. but thunderbird is having difficult writing... and I see permissions just says access for group and other...  I am confused.  //xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/thunder /media/network/gx270/thunder cifs rw,auto,users,noperm,username=user,password=pass 0 0
[03:27] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: I figured as much.  Don't ask how to clone, if you don't want to clone :).  Anyway, just copy the files over and change the mount point in your fstab then
[03:27] <knoppies> EEMPHASISS, something you might want to consider. When you do a new install using the command line, you can choose to copy contents from another /home file (never used it, not sure how it works). This would obviously be a new install though.
[03:27] <jrib> !home | EEMPHASISS
[03:28] <jrib> EEMPHASISS: that last link is probably relevant for you
[03:28] <semitones_tea> hey could somebody help me understand the theory behind the real time kernel and tweaks in ubuntu-studio? I'm trying to decide if it would be good for my system
[03:28] <monkey_d_luffy> Is there a way to force a write mount (ie, not read-only)?   My system insists on mounting my system read-only  (long story and I'm using debian with loop-aes)
[03:28] <acee12345> can someone tell me what i need to disable on compiz so the "cube" doesnt bounce back and forth a few times before it settles on selected screen
[03:30] <knoppies> Explore2, on my installation its still under System -> administration -> "Software sources"
[03:31] <EEMPHASISS> jrib: Thanks: so is something like  "cp -a  /home/*  /media/homenew/"  OK? (-a = "-dpR" = "--no-dereference --preserve=links,--preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps, Recursive")  or should I use something else? What about hidden files?
[03:31] <dro> Themarker0: do you have any idea what the default moinmoin login is?
[03:31] <outleradam> what is the advantage of perl over bash?
[03:31] <outleradam> or even python or perl over bash?
[03:32] <Themarker0> I'll be honest i have no idea dro. I haven't used it in a long tim
[03:32] <knoppies> Explore2, make sure all your (applicable) sources are ticked "Main, universe, restricted, multiverse". Then make sure that the selection box has "Main server" or the server for your country selected.
[03:32] <EEMPHASISS> knoppies, jrib: thanks: just saw your posts: I will check out.
[03:32] <Weevil> Hey, i'm new to ubunto, can someone help me?
[03:32] <Weevil> ubuntu*
[03:32] <Izinucs> outleradam: they are both entirely different things.. perl & python are programming languages and bash is more like "dos" on steriods.
[03:32] <Themarker0> Also sorry i know you have to edit a file. (Ubuntu server) for the DHCP
[03:32] <knoppies> Weevil, gee, what do you need help with
[03:32] <semitones_tea> hey Weevil welcome to Ubuntu
[03:32] <outleradam> Izinucs: bash is so powerful though, is there anything it cannot do?
[03:33] <knoppies> Izinucs, I think bash is a lot more than "dos" on steroids.
[03:33] <Izinucs> outleradam: no idea..
[03:33] <cgkades> bash is a shell... perl and python are scripting languages.....
[03:33] <semitones_tea> !offtopic
[03:33] <Izinucs> knoppies: of course but steroids sort of puts it in context for someone that doesn't know.
[03:33] <Explore2> knoppies: where do i see them in 9.10, cant find here..
[03:33] <Weevil> i have this network problem. When i run ubuntu from cd, it finds my network adapter and installs the driver (broadcom). But when i install it and run it from the HD it won't install the drivers...
[03:34] <knoppies> Explore2, on the menu bar at the top, there should be Applications, Places, System. right? In system is Administration, and in that you should see "Software Sources" right above "Synaptic Package Manager"
[03:34] <semitones_tea> Weevil, what happens when you try to install them?
[03:34] <outleradam> bash .sh is a scripting language as well, it's a scripting host right?      I don't understand what the advantage of using perl or python is over using bash.   It seems that with output redirection and all, bash is the logical choice of any program which does not require alot of graphics.
[03:35] <Weevil> I got to the "hardware devices" (or something) - under Administration, but it doesnt show me anything
[03:35] <howardTduck> i have installed 9.10 on a dell lappy and cant get it full screen.  can someone please help?
[03:36] <Izinucs> howardTduck: what kind of video card?
[03:36] <knoppies> howardTduck, never heard of such a problem, but have you tried increasing the resolution (Im just sucking my thumb here).
[03:36] <Weevil> when i boot from cd it shows me the drivers to install, but from hd it shows nothing
[03:36] <dragon_> I am trying to install a thunderbird profile that is REMOTE... on a windows share directory... so I can connect to the same Data from my windows laptop and my Ubuntu machine... is this concept decent?   when I try to setup my thunderbird profilemanager.  it says it doesn't have write access so i can not create my "network" profile.
[03:37] <howardTduck> it is a dell lappy not sure the video in it
[03:37] <knoppies> Weevil, I think you need to enable 'restricted' software sources.
[03:37] <iggimin> can I get Kubuntu help in here?
[03:37] <Weevil> how do i do that?
[03:37] <iggimin> 9.10 64-bit
[03:37] <panfist[laptop]> i installed ubuntu onto sde, an ide hard drive amongst 4 sata drives in an existing array. ubuntu decided to install grub onto sda and screw up the raid array
[03:37] <Explore2> knoppies: i could install the req package with ap-get thank you..
[03:37] <Izinucs> howardTduck: open a terminal window and type "lspci" without the quotes
[03:37] <outleradam> how often do the programs like sed, awk, and cat get changed?    I'm writing a bash script and I'm hoping it survives the test of time
[03:37] <knoppies> Weevil, System -> Administration -> Software sources.
[03:37] <panfist[laptop]> also even after reinstalling grub to sde and setting it as a boot drive, i still get an error when booting from that drive
[03:37] <knoppies> Explore2, glad you fixed it.
[03:38] <dragon_> on my windows box is a bit sluggish going from one email to the next...  so thinking it might because of it trying to do network share..   I was thinking... maybe be best to get some sort of sync program...  plan on using my ubuntu the most (and keeping it online always, to always collect the mail). but occationally be nice to read it from the laptop too...  any suggestions?
[03:38] <Izinucs> howardTduck: in there will be the answer of what kind of card
[03:38] <iggimin> How do I get a fresh install to make this audio card work
[03:38] <iggimin> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[03:38] <unperson> Well, thanks for your advice, everyone, and goodnight.
[03:38] <iggimin> neither headphones or speakers work (it's a Compaq presario)
[03:38] <knoppies> Weevil, then make sure Proprietary drivers for devices (restricted) is ticked and then close.
[03:38] <Weevil> i see
[03:38] <Weevil> i'm gonna try it =D
[03:38] <Weevil> thanks o/
[03:39] <Elive_user58_en> knoppies, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did not work
[03:39] <knoppies> Weevil, hope it works.
[03:39] <Elive_user58_en> still only 800 x 600
[03:39] <howardTduck> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02)
[03:39] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, hmm, then Im not sure. Im going to assume this is the same monitor?
[03:39] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, and that you have installed video drivers.
[03:39] <Izinucs> howardTduck: k.. hang on .. I'll look at the ati site
[03:39] <dragon_> elive.  i had the same problem (I assume)  as you did the other day.
[03:39] <howardTduck> k
[03:39] <zanberdo> what is the localhost address for documentation stored in /usr/share/doc ?
[03:40] <dragon_> elive    I had to keep editing the xorg.conf file manually till I got it right... it was a BEAR!
[03:40] <Weevil> its kinda late today, so i'll do taht tomorrow, but thanks for the info o/
[03:40] <Elive_user58_en> i havent installed any video drivers
[03:40] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, that may be your problem
[03:40] <Izinucs> howardTduck: did you install 32 bit or 64?
[03:40] <Elive_user58_en> and i never had to in ubuntu 9.04
[03:40] <direpenguin> how do i register an account with this server
[03:40] <howardTduck> 32
[03:40] <Elive_user58_en> 32 bit
[03:40] <dragon_> elive... and to be honest... I don't know what the heck I did and what websites I utilized to do it...  it was already preinstalled for my case.. just ubuntu just seemed to not like the darn thing...
[03:41] <zanberdo> I understand I can view them via firefox with a localhost addy, but I'm not able to figure out what the path is
[03:41] <knoppies> !resolution
[03:41] <direpenguin> !register
[03:41] <Elive_user58_en> ubottu, i will try that
[03:42] <nomnex> where is mkisofts in Karmic? I don't find it in the repos + and what difference with mkisofts/growisofs/genisoimage? Confusing
[03:42] <direpenguin>      /msg nickserv register <0211347><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:42] <direpenguin> lol that didnt work
[03:42] <EEMPHASISS> knoppies, jrib:  Yeah, important line from that page was     "find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/"
[03:43] <lookyaso> i can manually mount my floppy drive with no issues but when i right click to mount floppy from "computer"  i am prompted with unable to mount location no media in the drive. i know this is not the case cause i can mount it manually. ??
[03:43] <direpenguin>      /msg nickserv register 0211347<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:43] <direpenguin> bah that didnt work either
[03:43] <bithash> direpenguin: its NickServ
[03:43] <Elive_user58_en> ubotto, still 800 x 600 resolution
[03:43] <blakkheim> direpenguin: i hope that password isn't the same one you use for your email
[03:44] <JPeterson> What does this mean: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.11-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb
[03:44] <Izinucs> howardTduck: their site doesn't reference that card.. being agp 2x it sounds older.. have you done a full update of your system? if so have you looked in system>admin>hardware drivers?
[03:44] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, ubottu is only a bot. Im the one who called his factoid.
[03:44] <direpenguin> no i use different passwords for everything dont worry
[03:44] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, Im not sure what the issue is, but I would assume its a driver thing.
[03:44] <Elive_user58_en> oh i didnt know
[03:44] <Elive_user58_en> ok
[03:44] <Elive_user58_en> well, how do i get drivers for ubuntu 9.10?
[03:45] <howardTduck> Izinucs im looking now
[03:45] <direpenguin> do i still want the brackets
[03:45] <direpenguin> the <these>
[03:45] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, thats alright. I would make sure 'restricted' sources are enabled, and then System -> Administration -> hardware drivers
[03:45] <direpenguin>      /msg NickServ register <0211347><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:45] <Elive_user58_en> ok, i will try that
[03:45] <lookyaso>   /msg
[03:45] <dragon_> elive_user58_en  I had a similar situation, I believe...  I did a fresh install of 9.10 and it never CREATED an xorg.conf file... I had to get one generated manually, then add some modelines and modes info...
[03:45] <direpenguin>  /msg NickServ register 0211347<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:45] <lookyaso> kill whitespace
[03:46] <howardTduck> Izinucs says no proprietary drivers installed
[03:46] <direpenguin> still didnt work, bah
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> hi!  I'm trying to put the ubuntu iso on my usb drive, which is actually a MicroSD adapter (which usually works just fine).  I'd like to do an install from this USB drive to a used laptop, but I'm failing to get one working.  So far, I've tried using unetbootin and the usb-creator utility.  The unetbootin completes its task, but the drive doesn't boot (black screen when I select it).  fdisk -l shows that the bootable flag is on.  I
[03:46] <direpenguin> be back later
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> can't get the other option working at all.
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> Are there other ways?
[03:46] <Elive_user58_en> wow
[03:46] <panfist[laptop]> is this the proper place to ask a question about jaunty?
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> I'd be fine doing things manually (working from linux)
[03:46] <zanberdo> ah, it appears it's defined in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default as /doc/
[03:46] <zeleftikam> hi all :) brand new ubuntu user here, installed 9.10 Server on brand new hardware, can't get networking going. it is physically linked by ethernet to my router, the light on the mobo is green, the cable check in the BIOS runs successfully. any idea where to start?
[03:46] <howardTduck> and yes i have done an update.  have jusat installed
[03:46] <Izinucs> howardTduck: try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then look in there again.
[03:46] <panfist[laptop]> when using a full disk LVM installation on jaunty, which partition is supposed to get the boot flag? i'm struggling to get a vanilla jaunty installation to boot for the first time
[03:47] <psycho_oreos> is there anyway to download bcmwl-binary for karmic or ndiswrapper kernel module/driver?
[03:47] <semitones_tea> zeleftikam, hmm hopefully we can get this working
[03:47] <knoppies> Shirakawasuna, I made a USB bootable drive in windows (of a linux ISO). I also had problems booting from the drive until I put it before the local HDD on the Bios boot order (even though I was using the boot menu)
[03:47] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: open up a terminal, type 'ifconfig' and tell us what's there (if necessary, copy it to pastebin.ca manually)
[03:47] <semitones_tea> zeleftikam, do you see network manager in the top right corner?
[03:47] <Izinucs> !jaunty | panfist[laptop]
[03:47] <EEMPHASISS> bye, bye
[03:47] <Shirakawasuna> knoppies: hmm, I'll check and see what the boot order is, that's a good idea
[03:47] <abstrakt> how can i set gvim as my default text editor in nautilus?
[03:47] <abstrakt> right now it's gedit
[03:47] <calvenatus> éwc
[03:47] <calvenatus> lol
[03:47] <zeleftikam> Semitones, no, i am using Server
[03:47] <Izinucs> panfist[laptop]: sorry.. I thought jaunty was EOL.. no yet but close
[03:48] <trism> abstrakt: right click, select properties, open with tab, change the radio button to gvim
[03:48] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna, ipconfig: command not found
[03:48] <psycho_oreos> zeleftikam, ifconfig
[03:48] <PingFloyd> ifconfig
[03:48] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: ipconfig is for dos.  try ifconfig :)
[03:48] <PingFloyd> you're thinking Winders
[03:48] <knoppies> Shirakawasuna, yea, it was weird. It failed to boot until I put it first. The other thing I did, was mount the drive on another PC to make sure the data was still in tact, and then I "un mounted" it. That might have also been the problem.
[03:48] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: at least, tell me if it lists eth0 (or something similar)
[03:48] <panfist[laptop]> izinucs i'm using it for its xen kernel
[03:48] <zeleftikam> ah! haha thank you. ifconfig says: lo (only)
[03:48] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: aha
[03:48] <zeleftikam> no eth0
[03:49] <abstrakt> trism, any way to do that for *all* file types that are currently set to use gedit... e.g. all at once, so I don't have to do it for every file type?
[03:49] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: that's the problem :)
[03:49] <zeleftikam> yeah!
[03:49] <zeleftikam> so what do i do :)
[03:49] <knoppies> zeleftikam, do "ifconfig -a"
[03:49] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: see what 'ifconfig eth0 up' does
[03:49] <Izinucs> panfist[laptop]: ah.. so is jaunty the only os on the system? and what seperate partitions have you created?
[03:49] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: if you type ifconfig afterwards, does eth0 appear?
[03:49] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: oh, sorry, you might need to do sudo.  'sudo ifconfig eth0 up'
[03:49] <nomnex> what difference between mkisofs and genisoimage?
[03:50] <zeleftikam> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:50] <panfist[laptop]> i have four other hard disks that were an existing raid array. when i installed it i used an entire other disk configured with LVM. it looks like it has one primary partition with LVM on it first, then a 250MB ext2 partition on the end with /boot
[03:50] <howardTduck> Izinucs still nada....
[03:50] <knoppies> zeleftikam, try "ifconfig -a" and see if eth0 (or something similar) pops up.
[03:50] <rahduke> hey, im trying to recover data off a busted SCSI drive, i've tried to ddrescue and test disk the location of the drive but neither work....how can i tell whether or not the drive is really totally shot
[03:50] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: see what knoppies said
[03:50] <panfist[laptop]> sooo...yes...jaunty is the only os on the system
[03:50] <zeleftikam> knoppies, Shirakawasuna, there is eth1 there
[03:51] <Izinucs> howardTduck: I'm stuck sorry.. ati can be tough to impossible sometimes. maybe someone else will know
[03:51] <zeleftikam> eth1, lo, pan0
[03:51] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: try 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up'.
[03:51] <trism> abstrakt: I'm sure there are, but I don't know of any specific tools for it right at the moment
[03:51] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna, okay, that ran without complaints
[03:51] <rahduke> hey, im trying to recover data off a busted SCSI drive, i've tried to ddrescue and test disk the location of the drive but neither work....how can i tell whether or not the drive is really totally shot
[03:51] <knoppies> zeleftikam, glad we could help.
[03:51] <Izinucs> panfist[laptop]: boot flag on the boot partition?  might be the logical choice
[03:52] <Elive_user58_en> knoppies, i checked 'restricted' in software sources, then went to system-->adminastration-->hardware drivers and it came up with none
[03:52] <zeleftikam> knoppies, well, it's not connected to the internet.
[03:52] <zeleftikam> that didn't seem to help
[03:52] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: type 'ifconfig' again.  Is eth1 there?
[03:52] <Elive_user58_en> dragon_ i searched my file system for xorg.conf, and i came up with nothing
[03:52] <panfist[laptop]> i have no idea what the logical choice would be...i'll give that a shot
[03:52] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna, yes.
[03:52] <zeleftikam> eth1 appears
[03:52] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, you have to "reload" using the Synaptic Package Manager (if you havnt already)
[03:52] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: type 'iwconfig'.  What does it say for eth1?
[03:53] <Elive_user58_en> i did that alredy
[03:53] <psycho_oreos> is there anyway to download bcmwl-binary for karmic or ndiswrapper kernel module/driver?
[03:53] <zeleftikam> eth1 no wireless extensions.
[03:53] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, then I don't know. Sorry i couldnt help.
[03:53] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna ^
[03:53] <Elive_user58_en> no biggie
[03:53] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: sweet
[03:53] <semitones_tea> what's the irc channel for community documentation?
[03:53] <alphapup> I need some help with a ppc install.  Installer does not recognize my HD controller on a G4... says I need to choose a driver from a list.  Is this common?  Is there a common solution?
[03:53] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: I'm not sure if ubuntu has dhcpcd... try running 'dhcpcd eth1'
[03:54] <blakkheim> Shirakawasuna: it has dhclient by default i think
[03:54] <zeleftikam> nope, no dhcpd
[03:54] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[03:54] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: try unplugging and replugging the ethernet cable
[03:54] <blakkheim> ...
[03:54] <blakkheim> Shirakawasuna: look at what i just said
[03:54] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna, good thought. one moment
[03:55] <PingFloyd> uses dhclient by default
[03:55] <Elive_user58_en> dragon_, i searched my file system, for xorg.conf, and only found"xorg.conf.5.gz"
[03:55] <Shirakawasuna> blakkheim: I'm looking up dhclient right now to see how to use it ;).  I always use dhcpcd
[03:55] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, then maybe you have to create a xorg.conf file. Give me a sec I might know how to do that.
[03:55] <zeleftikam> Shirakawasuna, no magic
[03:55] <resno> hello all, i am looking for a bittorrent client that can run on a headless server that supports rss.
[03:55] <blakkheim> zeleftikam: sudo dhclient eth1
[03:55] <Elive_user58_en> ok
[03:55] <Shirakawasuna> oh, lol
[03:55] <Shirakawasuna> simple
[03:56] <Shirakawasuna> what blakkheim said, zeleftikam
[03:56] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, (im just guessing from here on out, but it might be worth a shot). Someone told me to run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to create a xorg.conf file.
[03:56] <zeleftikam> blakkheim, MAGIC
[03:56] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, assuming your card is an nvidia one.
[03:56] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, that also might need the nvidia drivers.
[03:56] <lakotajames> hi guys.  My nautilus doesn't work.  "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nautilus" gives me "Reinstallation of nautilus is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[03:56] <zeleftikam> THANKS EVERYONE!!!
[03:56] <Elive_user58_en> ok, i will try it
[03:56] <zeleftikam> will my networking work as expected from now on?
[03:57] <zeleftikam> if i shut down, etc
[03:57] <zeleftikam> it should be okay tomorrow?
[03:57] <Elive_user58_en> knoppies, it said commmand not found
[03:58] <knoppies> Elive_user58_en, hmm, ok. then Im not sure.
[03:58] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: maybe
[03:58] <Shirakawasuna> zeleftikam: cross your fingers ;)
[03:58] <zeleftikam> haha. maybe is not a good answer! i'll try it
[03:58] <knoppies> zeleftikam, you might want to restart now just to test it.
[03:58] <zeleftikam> aye.
[03:58] <Elive_user58_en> ok, no biggie
[03:59] <semitones_tea> Doesn't network manager have a cli version nowadays?
[03:59] <blakkheim> semitones_tea: wicd does
[03:59] <semitones_tea> I thought nm did too
[04:00] <zeleftikam> knoppies, no magic, it breaks when i reboot
[04:01] <semitones_tea> there's got to be a way to do it automagically
[04:01] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: I've missed most of this.. you trying to set a static IP?
[04:01] <lakotajames> :/ I really need help with this.
[04:01] <zeleftikam> Izinucs, greetings. i am trying to get a network/internet connection at all
[04:02] <lakotajames> nautilus doesn't work any more, and it's fairly important that it does.
[04:02] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: wireless or wired?
[04:02] <zeleftikam> Izinucs, wired, desktop computer, brand new hardware build
[04:02] <q0_0p> anyone here know what service uses udp port 40024?
[04:02] <q0_0p> i'm using ubuntu karmic
[04:02] <zeleftikam> the scholars here had me going just fine a moment ago, but then i restarted and it's no longer working
[04:02] <abstrakt> how can i use find to find all files that have the word foo somewhere in the filepath?
[04:02] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[04:03] <zeleftikam> Izinucs, no, not really, since the computer has no networking ability whatsoever
[04:03] <abstrakt> e.g. /usr/lib/foo/something.txt /var/www/foo/index.php
[04:03] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: take a look at it.. does it have only 2 lines?
[04:03] <abstrakt> when i do find . -name \*foo\* -print i only get folders named foo and files with the name foo, not all files under folders named foo
[04:04] <lakotajames> guys, please help me,  what do I do when I get the "Reinstallation of nautilus is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." message?
[04:04] <semitones_tea> zeleftikam, didn't you get it to work?
[04:04] <zeleftikam> Izinucs, it references lo and eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp and auto eth0
[04:04] <zeleftikam> i think maybe i should change these to eth1 since that's what worked earlier ;-)
[04:04] <lakotajames> am I even on irc correctly?
[04:04] <semitones_tea> lakotajames, could you try reinstalling it from a cd?
[04:05] <zeleftikam> lakotajames, i can hear you
[04:05] <MilitantPotato> lakotajames: make sure your software sources are set right
[04:05] <lakotajames> semitones_tea: how do I go about doing that?