[12:03] <Blissex> SuperK: well, if you upgraded etc. it just ''should work''.
[12:04] <SuperK> the CTRL-c command?
[12:04] <SuperK> I just don't have an icon for it in any of my menus, I had it in Hoary though
[12:05] <SuperK> what does the CTRL-c command do? And where do I use it?
[12:07] <mustard5> Do they have some type of menu editor in KDE, SuperK ?
[12:08] <SuperK> probably but I wouldn't know where :)
[12:08] <mustard5> SuperK, hehe..yeah..there are a lot of menus in KDE :)
[12:09] <SuperK> Right, I was expecting just to see it under 'system' or utilities
[12:09] <SuperK> I mean it's obviously installed, just no icon
[12:09] <SuperK> and no menu entry
[12:15] <mustard5> SuperK, I'm just reading a thread on kcontrol atm... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170526
[12:15] <mustard5> SuperK, seems that is just the way its sets up...as in this thread they talk about loading it via command line too
[12:15] <SuperK> I'll check it out too
[12:17] <SuperK> hmmm interesting, maybe kcontrol doesn't come with it by default
[12:17] <mustard5> yeah...
[12:18] <mustard5> just going offline...sister wants to call on phone line :)
[12:18] <SuperK> But I should be able to put it in my menus or desktop I would think
[12:18] <SuperK> reading further
[12:20] <_pedro> Good night
[12:21] <_pedro> I am looking for repositories to install kmplayer with aptitude
[12:21] <_pedro> I cannot find it
[12:22] <SuperK> guess I'll just have to alt-f2
[12:23] <SuperK> Ill be back later, got some stuff to do...thanks again
[12:32] <_pedro> would I do it installing from Marillat's repositories?
[12:49] <yanis_> good news
[01:12] <mzuverink> I am using dapper, did a server install, added ubuntu-desktop and then kubuntu-desktop. All the multimedia application installed by ubuntu-desktop fuction properly, however all kubuntu-desktop multimedia apps fail to play any media.  They just quickly speed through a song or movie and then off to the next playlist item without making any sound or video.
[01:22] <antx> !mp3
[01:22] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:25] <mzuverink> Anyone got any ideas why none  of the KDE multimedia apps will play multimedia for me? They just quickly speed through and go off to the next on the playlist.
[01:26] <Kyral> No codec for said file :P
[01:26] <mzuverink> Kyral:  I have the whole lot, good bad and ugly and they play proper in gnome apps
[01:27] <Kyral> then change Kaffiene/Amarok over to GStreamer's engine
[01:27] <mzuverink> Kyral: I try that, thanks
[01:30] <mzuverink> Kyral: gstreamer is not an option anywhere as I can tell and I do not see it anywhere in the repos for dapper for either kaffiene or amarok
[01:31] <mzuverink> Kyral: only arts and xine
[01:31] <oknewbie> Does anyone here know how to cofigure xorg to use the Radeon driver?
[01:31] <Kyral> activate Uni and Multi
[01:31] <Kyral> Its there, I know it is
[01:32] <mzuverink> they are active and they are not there
[01:32] <duckdown> How would I run my 'wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf' at runtime?
[01:32] <Kyral> dunno
[01:32] <Kyral> I know I got it running
[01:32] <Kyral> before I jumped to Arch
[01:32] <Kyral> in that case just install libxine-extracodecs
[01:32] <mzuverink> I do not see them anywhere
[01:33] <mzuverink> trying that now
[01:34] <mzuverink> that worked, thanks Kyral
[01:34] <Kyral> np
[01:35] <bimberi> duckdown: at system boot? add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:35] <duckdown> bimberi: Let me check it out, thanks man
[01:35] <duckdown> bimberi: yeah at system boot
[01:37] <bimberi> duckdown: np :)
[03:40] <thev> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" anyone know what's causing this when I try ./configure?
[03:42] <erov> do you have all of the gcc-* packages installed
[03:52] <thev> erov - yeah
[04:15] <johnny3d> hello I have done research on getting sound in kubuntu.  I have discovered that I don't have the /dev/audio directory.  Should I simply make the directory?
[04:15] <NoUse> johnny3d do you have /dev/dsp ?
[04:16] <johnny3d> no, I don't, NoUse
[04:16] <crimsun> johnny3d: /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} are deprecated; they're oss-specific. We use alsa instead of oss.
[04:17] <NoUse> !tell johnny3d about sound
[04:17] <crimsun> (granted /dev/{audio,mixer,dsp} should exist because we unconditionally load snd_pcm_oss...)
[04:17] <NoUse> johnny3d try the debuggingsoudn link ubotu sent you
[04:17] <johnny3d> will do, thankyou
[04:18] <crimsun> um, that debugging info needs to be revamped.
[04:19] <crimsun> johnny3d: pastebin the info from ``lspci -nv && lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[04:21] <johnny3d> ok, crimsun standby
[04:25] <johnny3d> crimsun, NoUse, http://pastebin.com/706711
[04:26] <crimsun> johnny3d: how new is the motherboard?
[04:27] <johnny3d> crimsun, a month old but it was sold cheap because no floppy
[04:27] <crimsun> johnny3d: link me to the manufacturer's Web page for specs
[04:28] <johnny3d> ok
[04:29] <crimsun> your hardware's pci ids aren't even listed, but my guess is it's either ac97 or hda
[04:35] <johnny3d> crimsun, i have the spec book
[04:38] <johnny3d> crimsun, it is ac97
[04:38] <johnny3d> http://www.valuelist.co.uk/ProductDetailPage.asp?guid=&ticketid=0&productID=2847
[04:39] <tim> How do I upgrade from kubuntu 5.10 to kubuntu 6.06
[04:41] <crimsun> !tell tim about upgrade
[04:41] <crimsun> johnny3d: sec.
[04:54] <crimsun> johnny3d: pastebin lsmod, please
[04:56] <johnny3d> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706755
[04:58] <crimsun> johnny3d: ``sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0''
[04:59] <johnny3d> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706756
[05:00] <crimsun> johnny3d: pastebin ``dmesg''
[05:02] <johnny3d> crimsun,
[05:02] <johnny3d> http://pastebin.com/706757
[05:03] <johnny3d> thankyou very much for your help thus far
[05:03] <crimsun> johnny3d: hmm, is this a default breezy install, or did you compile your own kernel?
[05:03] <johnny3d> crimsun, default
[05:04] <crimsun> where is it getting device_mode from?
[05:04] <johnny3d> I don't understand the question
[05:04] <crimsun> nevermind
[05:04] <crimsun> need lsmod again
[05:06] <johnny3d> crimsun, I went into BIOS earlier and changed the esd to pci     http://pastebin.com/706759
[05:10] <crimsun> johnny3d: sudo modprobe -r snd_ac97_bus snd_page_alloc
[05:11] <johnny3d> done, with no reaction, crimsun
[05:15] <crimsun> johnny3d: good. Now, sudo depmod -e
[05:15] <crimsun> johnny3d: after that, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[05:18] <johnny3d> crimsun, sudo depmod -e freezes the shell
[05:18] <crimsun> johnny3d: mm, ok, that's a sign of a larger problem. Has it finished yet and returned to a prompt?
[05:19] <johnny3d> yes
[05:21] <johnny3d> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706768
[05:22] <crimsun> johnny3d: run that modprobe -r command again
[05:22] <crimsun> johnny3d: afterward, this time, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[05:24] <johnny3d> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706770
[05:26] <johnny3d> crimsun, I don't know if this is related but at startup PCMCIA doesn't load
[05:28] <crimsun> johnny3d: can you try booting with "acpi=off"?
[05:28] <johnny3d> I can try
[05:28] <johnny3d> brb
[05:30] <tweek> salut
[05:35] <kkathman> yo C-O-L-T :)
[05:35] <robotgeek> yo kkathman
[05:35] <johnny3d> crimsun, done
[05:36] <kkathman> hi robotgeek
[05:47] <johnny3d> am running without acpi, crimsun
[05:48] <crimsun> johnny3d: what happens when you modprobe snd-intel8x0 ?
[05:49] <imbrandon> hmmm use php-qt becouse i know php , or learn python python-qt ;)
[05:49] <johnny3d> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/706795
[05:50] <Desh> Ok, How do I install the sources for my kernel, k7, in order to use ndiswrapper?
[05:50] <Desh> ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build  <-- Does not work
[05:50] <ep> On boot up, fsck was run because one of my volumes (not sure which, how do i tell?) was mounted more than thirty times... This is not unusual (i boot daily) but this time it failed.  I'm not sure how to run fsck on a mounted file system. What should I do?
[05:50] <imbrandon> Desh: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:51] <crimsun> johnny3d: urg. I'm guessing it doesn't work with Breezy either?
[05:51] <johnny3d> crimsun, nope
[05:51] <Desh> Why would installing usbmgr kill my USB access, CD's autoloading anf ndiswrapper?
[05:51] <Desh> *and
[05:52] <Desh> It still won;t work...
[05:53] <fatejudger> the new updated samba tutorial STILL doesn't have information pertaining to loading Samba shares at boot
[05:53] <fatejudger> I haven't come up with a way to do it using guest access myself
[05:53] <fatejudger> everything requires passwords
[05:53] <kkathman> howdy fatejudger :)
[05:53] <fatejudger> has anyone had any more luck than I have?
[05:53] <fatejudger> kkathman: hey
[05:54] <kkathman> fatejudger:  you have to mostly just set those up in the fstab, and of course create a mount point
[05:54] <fatejudger> I did
[05:54] <fatejudger> I can make it work by setting up a samba username and password
[05:54] <fatejudger> and supplying some sort of credentials
[05:54] <kkathman> right
[05:54] <fatejudger> but it won't works as a guest
[05:54] <fatejudger> *work
[05:55] <kkathman> it really shouldnt need to
[05:55] <fatejudger> during boot at least
[05:55] <fatejudger> it SHOULD
[05:55] <fatejudger> there should be some way of doing it
[05:55] <kkathman> i mean you dont need the "guest"
[05:55] <crimsun> johnny3d: does it have other Linux drivers?
[05:55] <fatejudger> kkathman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:55] <fatejudger> if you use mount -a, it works
[05:56] <fatejudger> but it's never successful loading them at boot
[05:56] <imbrandon> fatejudger: you just want to mount a samba share in fstab ?
[05:56] <fatejudger> yeah
[05:56] <kkathman> right thats what I do manually
[05:56] <fatejudger> with GUEST access
[05:56] <johnny3d> crimsun, breezy?  It had different default drivers, yes.
[05:56] <kkathman> but I have never needed the GUEST access
[05:56] <fatejudger> no passwords
[05:56] <imbrandon> make sure smbfs is install and use a line like this in your fstab , one sec
[05:56] <fatejudger> well most Windows shares are like that
[05:56] <imbrandon> ahh guest? no way
[05:56] <crimsun> johnny3d: which default sound drivers were used?
[05:56] <kkathman> I set the credentials, etc and set the settings in the smb.ini
[05:56] <johnny3d> crimsun, alsa, oss
[05:57] <imbrandon> smb.ini is for local shares not ones you connect to
[05:57] <fatejudger> see, it's stupid that it can't do that
[05:57] <imbrandon> no its insecure that you cant do that ;)
[05:57] <fatejudger> Samba attempts to provide a means to access netbios shares
[05:57] <fatejudger> it should do it in a way that's standard
[05:58] <crimsun> johnny3d: I mean the actual alsa driver, like snd_intel8x0 or snd_hda_intel, etc.
[05:58] <johnny3d> crimsun, that I don't know
[05:58] <kkathman> if you are trying to access a linux directory from windows, you have to set up the credentials and the smb.ini
[05:58] <Desh> Make sure there is a link to the kernel source from the modules directory. /lib/modules/VERSION/build should be a link to the kernel source
[05:58] <imbrandon> fatejudger: use soemthing like this in fstab with smbfs installed ( //bob/d       /mnt/bob       smbfs    user,uid=brandon,gid=admin,rw,username=brandon,password=<yourpass>    0       0 )
[05:58] <Desh> When I try to add the link it says file not found.
[05:59] <kkathman> if you are going the other way, then you need only set the directory/folder on the Windows box to share and give it a share name
[06:00] <fatejudger> imbrandon: I've done it that way before, but I just can't understand why you need to supply credentials like that
[06:00] <fatejudger> that alone seems like the security risk
[06:00] <fatejudger> not the guest access
[06:00] <maxtor> hi...
[06:00] <imbrandon> not if you have your network setup right and perms right on your boxes ;)
[06:01] <fatejudger> I'm just surprised no one has thought of this
[06:01] <imbrandon> it has been thought of, its insecure
[06:01] <maxtor> somebody knows how to put path and classpath for java in ubuntu?
[06:01] <johnny3d> crimsun, am I screwed?
[06:01] <fatejudger> how is that insecure?
[06:01] <crimsun> johnny3d: ok, I have to head home from work now, but I'll look later and see if I can find some information. In the meantime, please file a bug on Malone against linux-source-2.6.15 and attach the information I've asked of you. (Be sure to attach, not comment inline.)
[06:02] <fatejudger> insecure is putting your credentials in plaintext in your samba config file
[06:02] <johnny3d> crimsun,
[06:02] <johnny3d> ok
[06:02] <imbrandon> thats not in the samba config , its in fstab
[06:02] <fatejudger> still
[06:02] <imbrandon> and if you think about it you setup accounts on the windows box for just that access
[06:02] <fatejudger> you don't need root permissions to view it
[06:03] <imbrandon> but you need access to my linux box, whereas if you have a windows guest account setup i could mount your windows drive orver the network
[06:03] <johnny3d> link, crimsun ?
[06:03] <johnny3d> and, thankyou very mcuh for your help
[06:03] <crimsun> !bugs
[06:03] <fatejudger> imbrandon: of course
[06:04] <fatejudger> imbrandon: but how would someone go about connecting to my network?
[06:04] <crimsun> johnny3d: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[06:04] <imbrandon> depends o the setup, but its inharently insecure, thus the answer to your question
[06:04] <johnny3d> thankyou crimsun
[06:04] <imbrandon> i dont have time to argure about it here, i was just trying to give you your anwser
[06:05] <fatejudger> there are plenty of ways to make a computer insecure, including a Linux box
[06:05] <imbrandon> yes there are, but why do it intentionaly
[06:05] <fatejudger> if you're smart enough to use Linux, you're smart enough to make choices
[06:05] <fatejudger> end users should be allowed to decide what THEY feel is an acceptable level of security
[06:06] <khaije> i'm sure that used to be more true than it is now
[06:06] <fatejudger> khaije: I wouldn't doubt that statement
[06:06] <imbrandon> fatejudger: thats the great thing about oss, submit a patch to samba then ;)
[06:06] <fatejudger> there are more n00bs than ever now
[06:06] <fatejudger> imbrandon: it probably wouldn't be accepted
[06:07] <fatejudger> imbrandon: just for the reasons you previously stated
[06:07] <imbrandon> thats exactly my point, thus i was trying to help you not get you on some self rightious kick
[06:07] <khaije> thats the drawback of courting the masses, but the beautiful desktop i'm using now is a benefit
[06:08] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:10] <imbrandon> to get onto a new subject ;) khaije: check this kde XPish desktop ( to windows ish for most "hardcore" linux users although i dont know exactly what that means since i've been using linux only for years ;) ) http://imbrandon.sytes.net/snapshot1.png
[06:11] <kkathman> hehe.. if the icons were a little smaller it would be pretty close :)
[06:11] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:12] <fatejudger> I can't stand Windows Glass
[06:13] <fatejudger> I guess I'm just a huge fan of plastik
[06:13] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:13] <khaije> imbrandon: the clone has surpassed the master haha!
[06:14] <imbrandon> funny thing is it CAN run on my 333mhz with 32mb ram too lol ( this box isnt but i have one in the basement that is ;)
[06:14] <fatejudger> no way
[06:14] <fatejudger> Kubuntu can barely run on my laptop
[06:14] <imbrandon> do that with xp media center ( the theme that i based that on )
[06:14] <fatejudger> and that's 2.4 ghz celeron
[06:14] <fatejudger> with six hundred and something mb of RAM
[06:15] <fatejudger> 640
[06:15] <imbrandon> fatejudger:  i have it running smooth on a 333 with 32mb ram, and this is a 2.8 ghz with 1.2gb ram and it flies
[06:15] <khaije> exec free
[06:15] <fatejudger> heh, the latter is about the same specs as I have on this machine
[06:15] <fatejudger> and yeah, it does work amazingly well
[06:15] <fatejudger> but my laptop takes forever to boot
[06:15] <fatejudger> and KWord is really laggy for some reason
[06:15] <fatejudger> which makes me sad, because I love KOffice
[06:16] <fatejudger> input to screen is about 1 second off
[06:16] <imbrandon> hmm
[06:16] <fatejudger> in the worst case
[06:16] <fatejudger> I have the Dapper Alpha on it though
[06:16] <fatejudger> so I may try reinstalling
[06:17] <khaije> i have a p3 1ghz, w/ 256mb ram, and it runs v well
[06:17] <imbrandon> fatejudger: jsut apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[06:18] <fatejudger> I did
[06:18] <fatejudger> I do it all the time
[06:18] <imbrandon> infact from my apache logs someone here needs to do an apt-get dist-upgrade ;) "Kubuntu 6.04 Dapper"
[06:19] <khaije> fatejudger: you may also want to very that dma is activated for the harddisk
[06:19] <imbrandon> fatejudger: then you are at the latest , its not alpa anymore
[06:19] <khaije> *verify
[06:19] <fatejudger> khaije: was that off during the Alpha?
[06:19] <imbrandon> its off default always
[06:20] <khaije> i don't specificaly know, but if the memory size is an issue it will need quick swap space
[06:20] <fatejudger> like I said, it has 640 mb of RAM
[06:20] <fatejudger> it barely uses 400
[06:21] <khaije> fatejudger: oooh! i read that wrong the first time
[06:21] <fatejudger> aptitude isn't perfect, sometimes config files are left on machine from alpha versions
[06:21] <fatejudger> a reinstall might do the trick
[06:28] <_steven> hey can anyone give me some quick help with xorg.conf
[06:28] <_steven> i want to make sure im using the highest possible bit depth
[06:28] <_steven> but there are at least 4 different bit depths in my xorg.conf
[06:29] <_steven> how do i know which ones to change?
[06:35] <raf> hello
[06:35] <raf> hello! can anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu?
[06:36] <Desh> How do I add wlan0 to my iwconfig list?
[06:37] <Desh> I just installed ndiswrapper and the correct driver for my WLAN card, but wlan0 is not part of iwconfig?
[06:37] <khaije> a couple questions: what does katapult do? and what is the reccomended setup for sound (currently using gstreamer -> alsasink)
[06:38] <lunitik> khaije: katapult simply launches applications... (nifty naming imo :P)
[06:39] <lunitik> khaije: as for sound... depends on needs... gstreamer is fine... but xine supports more codecs (indirectly)
[06:39] <khaije> lunitik: let me put it this way, what is differnet now that i have katapult
[06:40] <lunitik> khaije: not much really... you try running katapult as a stand alone application?
[06:40] <khaije> lunitik: w/ regards to sound, do you know which is more dependable?
[06:41] <lunitik> khaije: define 'dependable'
[06:41] <lunitik> khaije: you probably want xine w/ w32codecs then  :P
[06:42] <lunitik> (uhhh... unless you meant in respect to katapult...)
[06:42] <khaije> o that last comment was directed toward your katapult question
[06:42] <khaije> :-) ya
[06:43] <lunitik> khaije: haha... 'katapult'... I don't think much damage can be done by just clicking around  :)
[06:45] <khaije> ?
[06:46] <khaije> sorry you lost me :-)
[06:47] <lunitik> khaije: just rambling, somewhat
[06:48] <Interpol> Why would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list?
[06:49] <raf> can anyone help me with the sound in Kubuntu?
[06:49] <lunitik> raf: depends whats wrong
[06:49] <raf> I can hear anything
[06:49] <raf> I can't
[06:49] <lunitik> raf: card? you have onboard and a seperate card?
[06:49] <raf> onboard
[06:49] <lunitik> raf: and type of card?
[06:49] <raf> Intel 810 chipset
[06:50] <lunitik> raf: lsmod | grep snd_intel8x0
[06:50] <lunitik> raf: is it loaded?
[06:50] <raf> 0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
[06:50] <lunitik> raf: uhh... thats lspci  :/
[06:51] <lunitik> raf: not what I said
[06:51] <raf> sorry
[06:51] <raf> it isn't loaded
[06:51] <lunitik> raf: well..... load it  ;)
[06:51] <Interpol> Why would wlan0 not show up on my iwconfig list?
[06:51] <lunitik> sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[06:52] <lunitik> raf: also... go ahead and throw that into /etc/modules ... that way you get to be lazy and not do that all the time  :|
[06:52] <Interpol> ??
[06:52] <khaije> lunitik: do you happen to know anything about the direction of kde sound now that arts is deprecated?
[06:52] <lunitik> khaije: phanon
[06:52] <raf> lunitik  > ok, I loaded the module, It appears in lsmod
[06:52] <lunitik> raf: k... play somethign?
[06:52] <lunitik> something
[06:53] <raf> lunitik  > i'm going to view /etc/modules
[06:53] <khaije> hmmm.... never heard of it... i'll check it out. thanks very much :-)
[06:53] <lunitik> khaije: http://phonon.kde.org/
[06:54] <lunitik> I knew I spelled it wrong   :(
[06:54] <lunitik> Interpol: the card is supported and its module is loaded?
[06:57] <lunitik> Interpol: I'll take your lack of response as a no? lol
[06:59] <lunitik> !cough
[06:59] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[06:59] <lunitik> !botslap
[06:59] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lunitik
[06:59] <lunitik> :(
[06:59] <lunitik> no fun
[06:59] <lunitik> !lart
[06:59] <lunitik> !lart me
[06:59] <lunitik> :(
[07:00] <lunitik> !lart me typing too much?
[07:01] <imbrandon> !lart lunitik
[07:01] <lunitik> imbrandon: it pretends to know what you mean (/msg from bot) ... but yeah... nothing  :(
[07:02] <imbrandon> lol
[07:02] <bewire> Hello, where should I discuss problems with sound ? (I have a amd 64, system sound ok, but no sound in kscd, totem, tvtime or other players ...)
[07:03] <lunitik> bewire: depends... what distro... OS... etc? if Kubuntu then here else not here
[07:03] <bewire> Installed kubuntu after ubuntu
[07:03] <Hobbsee> !sound
[07:04] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:04] <lunitik> Hobbsee: cheater
[07:04] <lunitik> :P
[07:04] <Hobbsee> lunitik: :P - what's the bot there for, if not to call up factoids...i dunno how kubuntu-centric they are though, or how old...
[07:05] <raf> lunitik > no, i can't hear anything :'(
[07:05] <lunitik> Hobbsee: sound issues aren't Kubuntu centric  :P
[07:05] <lunitik> raf: see what the bot said
[07:06] <raf> hihihi i don't what "the bot" is $
[07:06] <raf> I don't know what it is
[07:06] <lunitik> Set up can't be THAT different
[07:06] <mustard5> raf, ubotu is the bot..see his message above
[07:07] <crimsun> lunitik: for the vast majority of users, udev's hardware activation handles that
[07:07] <raf> :D
[07:07] <lunitik> crimsun: for the vast majority yes.... but sound has been an issue since the first preview of Ubuntu  :(
[07:08] <crimsun> lunitik: which bug reports, specifically?
[07:08] <lunitik> crimsun: more than a year of IRC  :P
[07:08] <raf> oh :O
[07:08] <raf> ok, I'm gonig to read "the bot"
[07:08] <crimsun> lunitik: that doesn't really help me, since I'm pretty much the sole triager of said bugs.
[07:08] <lunitik> crimsun: used to come up like 10 times a day
[07:08] <raf> just another question: If lspci shows "Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International" it means that is my sound card?
[07:09] <prixeh> nice
[07:09] <crimsun> raf: yes, and there are no sound drivers for your card.
[07:09] <lunitik> crimsun: mostly related to intel8x0 actually...
[07:09] <mustard5> sound is a difficult thing to troubleshoot though, as its not always operating system related, and sometimes more user related
[07:09] <crimsun> raf: unless of course you can convince them to release the specs, in which case we can write drivers.
[07:09] <crimsun> raf: there are drivers for the modem portion iirc, but otherwise you're out of luck
[07:09] <lunitik> crimsun: search launchpad (I think thats the prefered bug database?) for bugs related to that module... I'm sure you'll find lots...
[07:10] <raf> :'(
[07:10] <crimsun> lunitik: see what mustard5 typed.
[07:10] <crimsun> lunitik: and yes, I'm well aware of the state of sound in *buntu. I'm the one pushing patches to fix them.
[07:10] <lunitik> crimsun: thats good to hear  :-D
[07:11] <raf> well, I can live without sound
[07:11] <mustard5> your work is much appreciated, crimsun :)
[07:12] <lunitik> crimsun: paid developer now, btw?  :P
[07:12] <raf> I don't want windows anymore! windows recognizes my sound card but it have thousands of virus :D
[07:12] <lunitik> crimsun: or just kinda sucked in  :P
[07:12] <crimsun> lunitik: no.
[07:13] <crimsun> (this is purely volunteer work)
[07:13] <lunitik> crimsun: Jonathon is currently only paid Kubuntu devel?
[07:13] <lunitik> crimsun: thank you for your work though  :)
[07:13] <crimsun> I don't know the state of which are contracted, nor does it matter to me, since bugs are nondiscriminatory.
[07:13] <lunitik> crimsun: its strange seeing you in a channel without calc though... haha
[07:14] <crimsun> calc's probably in debian-kde and/or xandros
[07:14] <mustard5> I'd just love to know how you gained all your knowledge in sound specific devices , crimsun, as I could certainly do with some knowledge on sound troubleshooting
[07:14] <mustard5> hehe
[07:14] <lunitik> crimsun: ahh... last I spoke to him he mentioned he might be getting work with Xandros
[07:14] <lunitik> crimsun: cool
[07:14] <mustard5> I end up floundering around not knowing which way to go with troubleshooting
[07:15] <crimsun> mustard5: most of it is reading and writing source, wikis, breaking things, etc.
[07:15] <mustard5> crimsun, k..well I can work on the breaking things part pretty easy :)
[07:15] <crimsun> aye, 'tis
[07:16] <lunitik> crimsun: also most frustrating when they don't go back together...
[07:16] <crimsun> that's the best part, actually.  Now, if I put a CD in I have to go to media and click on the CD for it to mount. USB drives don;t appear at all.
[08:20] <Desh> Is there a way to make it work like it used to?
[08:35] <aftertaf> hi all :)
[08:40] <johan_> >:D< daper is good :P
[08:40] <_steven> !easysource
[08:40] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:40] <johan_> dapper :o
[08:41] <Steven_M> Hi.
[08:42] <johan_> hi.
[08:43] <_steven> hey, can somne please give me the line to enter into terminal to edit the sources.list?
[08:44] <Desh> _steven, have you tried finding the file, and then right click, actions, edit as root?
[08:44] <aftertaf> vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <_steven> ummm, ill try
[08:45] <Desh> Or that. :)
[08:45] <aftertaf> hehe
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf!  LTNS!
[08:45] <Desh> I still suck at command line.
[08:45] <aftertaf> Hobbsee: LTNC
[08:45] <aftertaf> long time no click
[08:46] <Search4Lancer> how do I get all the nifty details in KTorrent that I had before when I started downloading this file?
[08:47] <Search4Lancer> I had bar graphs and such, and now I don't
[08:48] <aftertaf> Hobbsee: no irc at new job..... so.
[08:48] <Hobbsee> :( ouch
[08:48] <aftertaf> well. maybe i could get around it.....
[08:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:48] <aftertaf> but now i'm on shifts...
[08:48] <aftertaf> :/
[08:49] <aftertaf> since this week.... once afternoon, once morning.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> ouch
[08:49] <aftertaf> good side is have time for me.... bad thing is don't see much of good lady and children.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> true
[08:50] <Steven_M> I'm trying to set up a dialup connection through a pcmcia card on my new install of dapper flight 6. There isn't a /dev/modem. I assume this is usually a link to the modem device. If I were to create a link myself, which device should it point to?
[08:50] <aftertaf> Search4Lancer: has the config changed?
[08:50] <Steven_M> Also, how do you check what a link points to?
[08:51] <johan_> steve I am using pcmcia as well but networking only works when i pull out the pcmcia card and replace it
[08:51] <_steven> how do i install wine?
[08:51] <cfraz89> Steven_M:try /dev/ttyS0
[08:51] <Hobbsee> !wine
[08:51] <aftertaf> Steven_M: in the console, type ls -lh
[08:51] <Hobbsee> !tell _steven about wine
[08:51] <_steven> !wine
[08:51] <cfraz89> Steven_M: is it an internal pci modem?
[08:52] <Steven_M> it's a pcmcia card modem in a notebook
[08:52] <aftertaf> best wine link i've found : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585&highlight=wine+setup
[08:52] <Steven_M> I already tried /dev/ttyS0 and got a I/O error
[08:53] <bimberi> hi aftertaf!
[08:53] <cfraz89> oh
[08:53] <aftertaf> hi bimberi :]
[08:53] <cfraz89> sorry, im not real sure about pcmcia cards, ive never used one
[08:54] <Search4Lancer> aftertaf: there are less options in the config window
[08:54] <bimberi> aftertaf: just read the backscroll - good to see you back :)
[08:54] <aftertaf> hehe thx :)
[08:54] <aftertaf> good to see names i recognise too :)
[08:56] <aftertaf> dapper is looking good anyway.
[08:56] <Search4Lancer> nevermind, figured it out, had to load plugins...
[08:58] <johan_> I have pcmcia as well networking is working after replacing the pcmcia card still modem isn't working either i am trying to find out what is wrong now
[09:01] <Kadran> hi i can't install realplayer? any help?
[09:02] <_steven> is there a way to get wine thru adept
[09:02] <Search4Lancer> Kadran: realplayer is a windows application
[09:02] <aftertaf> _steven: yes, but dunno if it works well.
[09:03] <_steven> ok, how?
[09:04] <aftertaf> _steven: apt-get install wine ;)
[09:04] <Hobbsee> no, dont get that version...
[09:04] <Hobbsee> see !wine
[09:04] <Hobbsee> that version is around 10 months old, IIRC
[09:06] <_steven> i dont care, the other way is too hard
[09:06] <aftertaf> _steven: its not hard, just long..... but it works (whereas other way doesnt)
[09:07] <imbrandon> Search4Lancer: realplayer is also a linux application ;)
[09:07] <_steven> ok, im on the realVNC to download it for kubuntu 5.10, do i download the GZipped Tarfile or the .rpm?
[09:08] <imbrandon> tar gz
[09:08] <aftertaf> _steven: no .deb anywhere? cant you apt-get it,
[09:08] <_steven> how
[09:08] <Search4Lancer> pffffff...........
[09:08] <aftertaf> _steven: sudo apt-get install realvnc?
[09:09] <johan_> newbie :p ok type man apt-get :D
[09:09] <_steven> ill try
[09:09] <imbrandon> _Steven  sudo apt-get install xvncviewer
[09:09] <_steven> cos i need to controll kubuntu from xp pro
[09:10] <imbrandon> _Steven  sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[09:10] <_steven> ok
[09:11] <_steven> and do i need to download tight vnc viewer 4 windows, or can i just use the realvnc viewer?
[09:11] <aftertaf> any will work: same protocol
[09:12] <aftertaf> open port 5900 in xp
[09:12] <_steven> ok
[09:12] <aftertaf> iirc
[09:12] <_steven> have done, i use vnc to connect to my friends compter
[09:12] <imbrandon> any vnc viewr will work
[09:13] <_steven> ok
[09:13] <_steven> thats good
[09:17] <stargater> re
[09:17] <kosh> imbrandon: I did that test with mysql 5.1 and inserted Feb 31 2006 and while it does not do the same thing as the page I linked it is very close, with no warnings or errors it inserts 00-00-0000
[09:18] <kosh> imbrandon: I also tried it in postgres 8.1 and it refused to do the insert saying the date did not exist
[09:19] <_steven> how do i get the internal ip address for this computer
[09:19] <aftertaf> ifconfig
[09:20] <_steven> in konsole?
[09:20] <aftertaf> yep
[09:20] <lwells> hey
[09:20] <lwells> anyone know how to download aim on linux?
[09:21] <lwells> anybody here?
[09:21] <aftertaf> aim or gaim?
[09:21] <lwells> whats gaim?
[09:22] <lwells> aim
[09:22] <lwells> for instant messaging
[09:22] <OlliK> ?
[09:22] <aftertaf> use gaim. it does the same; but differently
[09:22] <lwells> k
[09:22] <aftertaf> linuxly
[09:22] <lwells> how do i get gaim
[09:22] <OlliK> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:22] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:23] <lwells> huh
[09:23] <aftertaf> back later all
[09:23] <OlliK> gaim has ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo messenger, Jabber etc
[09:23] <lwells> fo real
[09:23] <lwells> how do i get it
[09:23] <_steven> how do i run the vnc server, i have download vnc-common
[09:23] <aftertaf> sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:23] <_steven> thru adept
[09:23] <OlliK> lwells: open a shell window and then type: sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:23] <lwells> i seriously dont know how to use this linux
[09:24] <lwells> how do i open a shell
[09:24] <cfraz89> best use adept
[09:24] <kosh> alt-f2 konsole   is a simple way
[09:24] <cfraz89> go to add/remove programs in the menu
[09:24] <kosh> you can also use adept if you want
[09:25] <Marcos> hi
[09:26] <_steven> how do i run vnc-common?
[09:28] <lwells> to open a shell i gotta run command?
[09:28] <OlliK> lwells: I think there should be a shortcut for that in the K-menu
[09:28] <kosh> the default kde has a shortcut for it, however kubuntu made modifications and removed the default shortcut
[09:29] <Marcos> alt+spacebar, then write konsole
[09:30] <kosh> I prefer alt-f2, it runs vastly faster
[09:30] <kosh> katapult may look nicer but it is also a lot slower to startup and to complete
[09:30] <Marcos> yes, it's true
[09:31] <Marcos> i have a shortcut in the bar
[09:32] <Marcos> hey, i have problems installing eagle-usb drivers
[09:32] <kosh> if I am just running one monitor katapult seems fairly fast but with 4 it sure seems to run slower, that is the one problem with quad monitor output it places a much higher load on things
[09:33] <lwells> okay i ran command
[09:33] <lwells> and i typed sudo apt-get install gaim
[09:33] <lwells> and nothing happened
[09:33] <_steven> is there away to make a vnc server run at startup?
[09:34] <kosh> you did alt-f2 konsole and then why konsole opened you typed that command in there?
[09:34] <lwells> yeah
[09:35] <kosh> that seems strange for it to say nothing at all
[09:35] <kosh> at worst it should say it is already installed
[09:35] <lwells> reallly
[09:35] <lwells> damn
[09:36] <Marcos> or give you an error message
[09:36] <lwells> ohhh nm
[09:36] <lwells> my stepdad put a password to this stupid comp
[09:36] <lwells> i think thats why
[09:37] <kosh> if he put a password on the computer he probably means for you not to be able to install and remove software, that woudl be the point :)
[09:37] <lwells> i knoww
[09:37] <lwells> didnt know that
[09:38] <Marcos> hehe
[09:38] <lwells> damnit i want aim or somethin
[09:39] <Marcos> you can use kopete
[09:39] <lwells> whats kopete
[09:39] <imbrandon> aim for linux ;)
[09:39] <DaSkreech> Rubish
[09:39] <sheldonc> kopete rocks
[09:39] <Marcos> it's a program like gaim
[09:39] <lwells> okayy how do i get on it
[09:39] <DaSkreech> xcept gaim is better :-(
[09:40] <DaSkreech> alt+enter
[09:40] <DaSkreech> type kop
[09:40] <DaSkreech> Press enter
[09:40] <Marcos> type kopete in a console
[09:40] <imbrandon> gaim == gtk your ina kde chan bud ;)
[09:40] <DaSkreech> I less than three katapult
[09:40] <sheldonc> http://kopete.kde.org/
[09:40] <DaSkreech> imbrandon_: I don't care
[09:40] <DaSkreech> Gaim is user friendly
[09:41] <DaSkreech> kopete is pretty
[09:41] <imbrandon> so is kopete ;)
[09:41] <Marcos> yes, but he can't install packages
[09:41] <DaSkreech> imbrandon_: I've never found it to do things that I liked
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Worse as a dammnation for a KDE app i couldn't config it to do what I want
[09:42] <sheldonc> DaSkreech: what things specifically?
[09:42] <DaSkreech> That and it crashes on me about once every three hours
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Tab management, Tab traversals, Messaging people
[09:43] <DaSkreech> logging granularity, seperation of messages vs chats
[09:43] <DaSkreech> separation I'm sorry I don't want to be inaccurate in my rants :)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> I'm willing to put up with it since it's basically a few versions old but it's really the fly in my kubuntu soup
[09:44] <imbrandon> well personaly i hate tabs and it never crashes for me ;)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> That plus some minor quibbles about adept :) and apparently the Kat has left the bag and gone but I'm more than happy to chill waiting for KDe4
[09:46] <sheldonc> holy crap are you like IMing the entire world every day? myself i cant stand to be talking to moer than 5 people at once on IM... thats why i went back to idling on irc
[09:46] <DaSkreech> imbrandon_: Cool for you most people who seem to love kopete just pick it up and use it :-(
[09:46] <DaSkreech> sheldonc: actually I am
[09:47] <nrdb> I have gnomemetting installed but it can't seem to handle the sound can anyone help?
[09:48] <sheldonc> DaSkreech: i'd suggest updating your kopete and trying it again. also, if you're trying to coordinate anything with anybody, IM sucks :)
[09:48] <DaSkreech> sheldonc: Which is probably how I notice things like I cannot IM someone unless I add them to my list which is insanely aggravating
[09:48] <kosh> I just use konversation, the im programs I got tired of not long after icq first started
[09:49] <imbrandon> irc was arround LONG before im apps ;)
[09:49] <sheldonc> i liked icq and msn, but you soon find out that you hate being constantly interrupted about the same thing - irc makes more sense, everybody and their dog can get their hands on an irc client, and there isnt duplication
[09:50] <imbrandon> brb gonna restart x
[09:51] <lwells> linux is complicated
[09:51] <kosh> the im programs just are too annoying pretty much
[09:52] <kosh> lwells: every os is complicated at least if you expect it to work
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Yeah but much worse when you have to fight with them to do anything
[09:52] <DaSkreech> kosh: Wise man
[09:52] <kosh> I have had to fight with windows and even macs a lot to get stuff done
[09:53] <kosh> linux is really not any differnt, just different fights
[09:53] <kosh> try doing serious db development on a windows box and then see how easy things are :)
[09:53] <lwells> haha
[09:54] <lwells> anyways
[09:54] <lwells> gooodnite guys
[09:55] <imbrandon> gnight
[09:56] <imbrandon> anyhow thats the great thing about linux, choice , some like gaim some like kopete some like amsn etc etc etc
[09:56] <imbrandon> ;)
[09:56] <imbrandon> all have their ups and downs
[09:56] <sheldonc> and compare apt-get to installshield
[09:56] <sheldonc> man, i hate windows installers
[09:57] <imbrandon> hehe
[09:57] <imbrandon> compare apt-get to rpm based distros ( not counting red-carpet becouse its only the base os mostly )
[09:57] <imbrandon> bout the same damm headache
[09:58] <nrdb> after using fedora 3 for a while yum is a pain to use.
[09:58] <imbrandon> yea
[09:58] <imbrandon> so is yast on suse
[09:58] <Vampis> apt is the way of life ;)
[09:59] <nrdb> apt can make odd desicision from time to time but it generally gets it right.
[10:00] <Vampis> hm, I only had problem once
[10:01] <Vampis> it removed ALOT of programs when I ran a dist-upgrade
[10:07] <josh> !wine
[10:08] <josh> !winetools
[10:08] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, josh
[10:09] <nrdb> I am trying to setup gnomemeeting, I am haveing trouble with the sound it keeps saying it can't open the device, and to check permissions, but what permissions?
[10:14] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how can I get the firmware for my Agfa Snapscan e20 ? I don't have the installation CD.
[10:16] <munzir_> Hi, what's the corresponding command to httpd -S in kubuntu?
[10:16] <josh> have you tried its manufactures website?
[10:16] <munzir_> There is no httpd executable
[10:17] <munzir_> ahh! i found it apache2 ;)
[10:35] <josh> when ever i use adept to install or remove a program, it displays this message at the very end
[10:35] <josh> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977
[10:35] <josh> and it says that the programs are installed, even though there not
[10:36] <josh> dose any1 know how to fix this?
[10:37] <josh> anyone?
[10:37] <josh> !adept
[10:37] <ubotu> I guess adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:37] <josh> !network
[10:37] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[10:38] <josh> !networking
[10:38] <ubotu> check this for command line networking http://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[10:38] <pradeepto> josh: what is your problem again?
[10:38] <pradeepto> Riddell: around?
[10:38] <josh> hang on
[10:40] <mindspin> josh: could you post your sources.list in pastebin ?
[10:43] <josh> ok
[10:44] <josh> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984
[10:45] <josh> and my problem is that i get the following error at the end of installing and removing programs http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984
[10:46] <HymnToLife> hmm same link here
[10:47] <mindspin> you can try to replace the source urls, maybe the australian servers have problems or their repos are broken..
[10:47] <josh> grunt
[10:47] <mindspin> but that's just a guess because your sources.list looks ok for me
[10:47] <HymnToLife> would be nice to have a look t the error ;)
[10:47] <zorgluuu> q. in which package is the make utility, the stuff to compile programm
[10:48] <mindspin> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977 that's the error
[10:48] <HymnToLife> hmm, never saw anything like this...
[10:49] <HymnToLife> the au.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be okay
[10:50] <josh> grunt grunt
[10:50] <mindspin> josh did you try it via sudo apt-get update from console?
[10:51] <josh> umm, yeah
[10:51] <josh> but ill do that again
[10:51] <zorgluuu> no taker for the package containing make ><
[10:51] <imbrandon> zorgluuu: build-essential
[10:51] <HymnToLife> !b-e
[10:51] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[10:52] <josh> its doing stuff now
[10:52] <zorgluuu> hmm dah it was just make.deb
[10:52] <josh> but it had an error at the end
[10:52] <imbrandon> zorgluuu: build-essential
[10:52] <imbrandon> hass everything
[10:52] <josh> ill post it asap
[10:52] <zorgluuu> imbrandon, nice thanks
[10:52] <josh> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706992
[10:53] <mindspin> mhh differs slightly from the first one
[10:53] <HymnToLife> josh> it seems one (at least) server you are using is down
[10:53] <squilla> !network
[10:53] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[10:54] <HymnToLife> re you running a 64 bit system ?
[10:54] <josh> ok
[10:55] <josh> i still have the same error when i use adept
[10:57] <josh> and if somone could solve my problem thats posted here, that would be ausome
[10:57] <josh> http://groups.google.com/group/absolute-linux-computing/browse_thread/thread/1d85162f1901df75
[11:00] <josh> anyone?
[11:03] <HymnToLife> josh> if you just want to do console stuff, SSH should do the trick
[11:03] <josh> ???
[11:03] <josh> no no no, i want full controll, vnc
[11:04] <HymnToLife> maybe you'll have something on the wiki about it
[11:04] <HymnToLife> !vnc
[11:04] <ubotu> well, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[11:05] <josh> ok
[11:05] <josh> and can i configure them to run at startup?
[11:06] <josh> because i cant have a monitor hooked up to the kubuntu computer
[11:08] <josh> brb
[11:14] <josh> is there a driver or somthing so i can read and write NTFS volumes
[11:14] <zorgluuu> josh i havent followed your problem but just in case nx is much faster than vnc
[11:15] <josh> nx?
[11:15] <HymnToLife> josh> NTFS writing is very unsafe
[11:15] <HymnToLife> I wouldn't use it if I were you
[11:15] <josh> ok
[11:15] <josh> what is nx?
[11:15] <aftertaf> !nx
[11:15] <ubotu> aftertaf: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:15] <zorgluuu> josh try to google nx client
[11:17] <josh> and can i use nx to access kubunt from xp?
[11:17] <zorgluuu> dunno :)
[11:17] <josh> grunt
[11:18] <josh> what is the command line for updating the sources.list again
[11:19] <josh> after you make changes to it?
[11:19] <josh> gtg
[11:29] <Dru> having nightmares trying to install dapper
[11:29] <JRGC> I have a TVcard and it was recognised as a soundcard 0 and my soundcard is soundcard 1 so I can't here anything, except with the tv.
[11:30] <JRGC> Where can I cange the alsa configuration on Ubuntu?
[11:30] <JRGC> Where can I change the alsa configuration on KUbuntu?
[11:31] <My8os> josh: sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <cfraz89> i dont think kubuntu comes with an alsa tool
[11:33] <Tm_T> I think wiki knows something
[11:33] <cfraz89> you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[11:34] <josh> thanx
[11:36] <josh> when ever i install or remove programs in adept, get the following error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706977
[11:36] <josh> heres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/706984
[11:37] <HymnToLife> josh > maybe your sources.list is bad somewhere but I can't figure out whre
[11:37] <HymnToLife> maybe try another one and see if it works
[11:37] <josh> and heres what happens when i go sudo apt-get update http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/707018
[11:37] <HymnToLife> here's mine : http://fkraiem.no-ip.org/stuff/sources.list
[11:37] <JRGC> How can I configure alsa from the console in Kubuntu?
[11:37] <josh> k
[11:39] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, another thing
[11:39] <HymnToLife> try to sudo apt-get update with an empty sources.list before putting a new one
[11:39] <josh> ok
[11:40] <josh> what would that do?
[11:41] <cc-dash> i've updated to kernel 2.6.15-22 (64bit amd-version) and i only got trouble: openoffice hangs up etc. - is this a known problem or am i the only one, who has trouble with this.
[11:41] <cc-dash> i've booted the previos kernel and everything works ... :-/
[11:41] <HymnToLife> josh> that will basically clear your cache from all the stuff you've downloaded like package indexes and such
[11:41] <josh> ok
[11:41] <cc-dash> +u
[11:41] <HymnToLife> so it won't interfere with the download of new ones
[11:45] <DrNickRiviera> can anyone recommend a good photo gallery application?
[11:45] <josh> wat is the command prompt for editing the sources.list in vim
[11:45] <josh> konsole
[11:46] <HymnToLife> josh> just sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <josh> thanx
[11:50] <josh> i have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes?
[11:53] <josh> anyone?
[11:53] <josh> i have pressed esc in vim, how do i make it so i can make changes?
[11:53] <visik7> UH ?
[11:54] <josh> i have pressed esc in vim (text editor in konsole), what do i type in so i can make changes?
[11:54] <cfraz89> i
[11:55] <cfraz89> i <enter>
[11:55] <josh> k, thanx
[11:55] <cfraz89> when you are done, press escape, then wq to save
[11:55] <cfraz89> np
[12:07] <josh> that error still comes up, even with your sources.list
[12:14] <_david> where can I go to discuss nvidia and breezy problems
[12:20] <joy> need help
[12:21] <joy> i try install a program and it won't work, but when i tried from root, it's work
[12:22] <joy> can i change that program so i can run not from root?
[12:22] <joy> please help
[12:24] <_david> joy, what is the program?
[12:26] <_david> Joy, I tried to get xsane to work and found that ubuntu has prevented the use of suid, other wise you could have set the suid bit on the program
[12:42] <joy> vmare
[12:43] <joy> vmware david
[12:44] <zm0> joy: i use vmware as a normal user, maybe i can help
[12:45] <joy> can u help me
[12:45] <joy> pleasee
[12:46] <joy> i can not run from normal user only from rot
[12:46] <joy> root
[12:46] <zm0> joy: start vmware from a terminal and tell me what error(s) do you get
[12:47] <joy> Mware Workstation Error:
[12:47] <joy> VMware Workstation unrecoverable error: (vmui)
[12:47] <joy> Unable to initialize host: Cannot open file "/home/joy/.vmware/preferences": Permission denied.
[12:48] <zm0> joy: ok type sudo chown joy:joy /home/joy/.vmware -R
[12:49] <joy> it's work!
[12:49] <zm0> :)
[12:49] <joy> thank you z..
[12:49] <zm0> yw
[01:19] <Infecto> hello, pleas tell me where now(6.06) is cfg for locale-gen ?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> Infecto> for Dapper issues, please join #ubuntu+1
[01:26] <Infecto> ok
[01:26] <DrNickRiviera> i'm trying to install amarok 1.4 beta 3 on dapper
[01:26] <DrNickRiviera> it works fine apart from the engines
[01:26] <DrNickRiviera> are there different engine packages for 1.4?
[01:27] <cfraz89> yeah
[01:27] <DrNickRiviera> any idea where i might get them?
[01:27] <cfraz89> make sure you have amarok-engines
[01:27] <cfraz89> amarok-arts has been removed
[01:29] <DrNickRiviera> the problem is when do apt-get install amarok-engines it complains that i don't have amarok 1.3.9 installed
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> DrNick: just install amarok-xine (presuming you have the 1.4 repos in your sources.list
[01:30] <DrNickRiviera> i don't think i do
[01:30] <DrNickRiviera> only just started using kubuntu and apt
[01:30] <DrNickRiviera> will see whether i can find something on google
[01:30] <cfraz89> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3 dapper main
[01:31] <cfraz89> add that to your sources
[01:32] <DrNickRiviera> how do i do that?
[01:32] <cfraz89> in adept, go to manage repositories
[01:32] <cfraz89> or you can add the line directly to /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <DrNickRiviera> have done it in adept
[01:33] <cfraz89> ok
[01:33] <cfraz89> then update your sources, and it should be ok
[01:36] <DrNickRiviera> thanks for your help cfraz89
[01:36] <cfraz89> np
[01:44] <DrNickRiviera> amarok continues to claim that no engines are installed :(
[01:45] <cfraz89> hmmm
[01:45] <cfraz89> so you got new amarok, and amarok engines?
[01:45] <DrNickRiviera> yeah
[01:45] <cfraz89> try deleting your amarok settings
[01:45] <DrNickRiviera> even tried installing gstreamer
[01:45] <cfraz89> probably wont help though
[01:46] <DrNickRiviera> you mean press the default button in config or delete files from the amarok directory in /home?
[01:47] <cfraz89> delete /home/you/.kde/share/apps/amarok,
[01:47] <cfraz89> delete /home/you/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[01:49] <siefkencp> any one know how to create an IRC channel?
[01:49] <Tm_T> siefkencp: join to it
[01:50] <Tm_T> siefkencp: like /j #newchannel will create #newchannel if it doesn't exist already
[01:52] <siefkencp> cool ty
[01:52] <Dru> F##k my connection died & was almost complete on my dl of Dapper install cd :(
[01:52] <OdyX> someone with Dapper and a burner to confirm bug 31768?
[01:53] <HymnToLife> Dru> use a download manager next time ;)
[01:55] <Tm_T> OdyX: oh?
[01:55] <OdyX> Tm_T: Hi..
[01:56] <Tm_T> hello :)
[01:57] <Dru> crappy works machine win 98se
[01:59] <DrNickRiviera> deleting the amarok config file hasn't solved the problem either
[02:01] <dave_oz> is there a DVD ripper like DVDSHRINK available in ubuntu?
[02:05] <visik7> wine+dvdshrink
[02:05] <visik7> no performance loss
[02:05] <visik7> or dvd5to9
[02:05] <OdyX> dave_oz: dvdrip
[02:06] <OdyX> dave_oz: thoggen for Ogg/Theora/Vorbis
[02:06] <visik7> dvdrip doesn't do what dvdshrink does
[02:06] <dave_oz> i tried dvdrip - couldn't get it to work - difficult to figure out how to use.
[02:06] <ninHer> hi all
[02:06] <visik7> dave_oz: dvd5to9
[02:07] <dave_oz> i will try dvde5to9
[02:07] <dave_oz> is it as good as dvdshrink?
[02:11] <visik7> never used
[02:16] <metallitux> please help me! cant get into any GUI
[02:16] <cfraz89> what happens?
[02:16] <metallitux> cfraz89, it just kicks me back to KDM like i never logged in
[02:16] <cfraz89> oh
[02:17] <cfraz89> try running startkde from a terminal?
[02:17] <metallitux> that worked
[02:18] <metallitux> cfraz89, why would that work and not the KDM?
[02:18] <cfraz89> it shouldnt lol
[02:18] <metallitux> what can i do to fix that?
[02:19] <cfraz89> ummm
[02:20] <cfraz89> try reinstalling kdm?
[02:20] <cfraz89> maybe you want a copy of my kdmrc?
[02:21] <metallitux> cfraz89, sorry about that
[02:21] <metallitux> had to restart X
[02:23] <cfraz89> thats ok
[02:23] <cfraz89> is ok now?
[02:24] <metallitux> cfraz89, nope
[02:24] <cfraz89> oh ok
[02:24] <metallitux> but kde is working while i am like this
[02:24] <cfraz89> ill give you my kdmrc
[02:25] <cfraz89> see how it goes
[02:25] <cfraz89> actually not sure if it elps
[02:25] <cfraz89> you might want to try reinstalling kdm
[02:26] <metallitux> so remove and reinstall with apt?
[02:26] <cfraz89> try
[02:26] <cfraz89> but it might want to take out kde with it
[02:48] <mhterres> morning
[03:05] <swoke> Anyone has succesfully used Network-manager-openvpn ?
[03:09] <Vampis> didnt even know it existed
[03:09] <Vampis> Cant find it in my reps.
[03:54] <billytwowilly>  Hi, I just installed the updates and now kde won't start up. says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" how do I fix this? gnome sucks compared to kde...
[03:56] <Vampis> billytwowilly: Wich KDE ?
[03:56] <billytwowilly> dapper
[03:56] <Vampis> From what repo
[03:56] <Vampis> KDE Dapper? ;)
[03:56] <Vampis> asked witch version of KDE
[03:56] <billytwowilly> kde from dapper...
[03:56] <Vampis> bah, wich VERSION ffs
[03:56] <billytwowilly> I dunno. probably the latest. whatever is in dapper.
[03:57] <DeadS0ul> billytwowilly: do you use any speical drivers?
[03:57] <billytwowilly> nvidia.. that's it.
[03:57] <DeadS0ul> reinstall it
[03:58] <billytwowilly> nvidia works just fine. I'm in gnome now.
[03:58] <DeadS0ul> it just doesnt' log into kde?
[03:59] <billytwowilly> yah. kde tries to start up and I get an error that says something like "invalid number of arguments (4)" then it goes into gnome because gnome is still the default desktop.
[03:59] <DeadS0ul> try coming into #kde and asking
[03:59] <nexus10> Hi. Can anyone tell me what are the minimum set of tools I need to "apt-get install" in order to be able to "make install"? GCC not required, just make AFAIK.
[04:00] <DeadS0ul> nexus10: you usually need the dev files I think
[04:01] <nexus10> DeadS0ul: d'you know which apt-get command I need? apt-cache search dev is a little scary :-)
[04:02] <DeadS0ul> I think you can use apt-cache show <package name> to see what libraries it uses
[04:02] <DeadS0ul> and get what you need need
[04:03] <nexus10> DeadS0ul: thanks, I'll experiment. Not sure what the package-name is, though...
[04:03] <DeadS0ul> so if the program you want to build from source uses openssh, then you probably need libssl-dev or gnutls-dev
[04:03] <DeadS0ul> what're you trying to build?
[04:05] <Hobbsee> nexus10: build-essential usually helps with that
[04:05] <Hobbsee> !b-s
[04:05] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:05] <Hobbsee> !b-e
[04:05] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[04:06] <khaije|away> hi all, anyone know if there is any discussion about creating xen-playable base images aloing with iso's?
[04:06] <billytwowilly> it actually says "unsupported number of arguments (4)"
[04:06] <nexus10> thanks all
[04:22] <rtg_> Good morning!  ...got a bit of confusion
[04:23] <rtg_> I installed from the Dapper Beta2 .iso, thinking it was the latest, but today someone suggested trying the 'Flight 7' .iso
[04:23] <Hobbsee> rtg_: yes, flight 7 is later.  you can easily update to flight 7 from beta2
[04:24] <rtg_> I thought the 'flight n' series was pre-beta
[04:24] <kkathman> greetings Hobbsee
[04:24] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman :)
[04:24] <Hobbsee> rtg_: er...i thought that too.  i'ts not though
[04:24] <crimsun> rtg_: flight is just a milestone codename and has no relation to pre-/post-
[04:25] <crimsun> i.e., flight 1 < flight 2 < ... < flight 6 < beta < beta 2 < flight 7 < ... < release candidiate < final
[04:25] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  if we've been dist-upgrading and/or daily updating we're all getting the latest things tho right?
[04:25] <Hobbsee> kkathman: yep :)
[04:25] <kkathman> even if we started at flight 6
[04:25] <kkathman> just wanted to verify that for everyone :)
[04:26] <rtg_> I think the web site or wiki needs to be updated.  The testing/dapperbeta/ page points to a server that only has the 4/28 beta2
[04:27] <rtg_> Is there an overall status page with announcements and pointers to the latest?
[04:29] <rtg_> I'm participating in a bug that's files against the installer itself, so I have to re-install with the latest.  An update to an already-installed system won't show me anything.
[04:30] <evert> hello all
[04:30] <DeadS0ul> hi hi
[04:31] <evert> i'm searching for a 'audio progam' like skype for linux (skype don't wanna work on 64 bit and teamspeak just don't works :S )
[04:31] <evert> so i'm searching another program wich can do it :)
[04:32] <jarle> Which settings should I use to get norwegian chars ""? I consol I can TYPE the letters, but when I try to list filenames containing these letters I only get "?"
[04:32] <DeadS0ul> tried gnome meeting? it's caleld somethign else now ..forgot what it is
[04:32] <DeadS0ul> jarle:  you need the fonts installed for that locale I think
[04:33] <SiriusA> somebody here on dapper, using amarok and musicbrainz?
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> me, musicbrainz ain't working in juk either
[04:34] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[04:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[04:34] <SiriusA> DeadS0ul, it works, but only musicbrainz make some problems
[04:34] <evert> can i use gnome meeting (on kubuntu :P) to talk with frineds who have windows ?
[04:35] <jarle> DeadS0ul: any idea which package to install?
[04:35] <evert> is the quality of gnome meeting ok ?
[04:35] <DeadS0ul> jarle: dunno =|
[04:35] <DeadS0ul> evert: probably, go try it out
[04:36] <evert> but can i talk with friends who have windows and wich program do they need ?
[04:36] <DeadS0ul> SiriusA: what kinda problems?
[04:36] <SiriusA> DeadS0ul, described at the bottom: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[04:37] <SiriusA> DeadS0ul, but this dont work for me, he dont install libtunepimp2c2
[04:38] <SiriusA> DeadS0ul, apt tells me, that this package is not available, but replaced through this: libtunepimp2c2a
[04:40] <imonkey> is it already possible to download kubuntu dapper beta?
[04:40] <BazziR> sure
[04:40] <imonkey> awsome going to check right away :)
[04:41] <imonkey> maybe this is a stupid question but is it possible to download an iso when its beta?
[04:42] <evert> is Kubuntu dapper also coming out at June 1 ? And can i just do a 'update / upgrade' ? Or do i have to reinstall everything ?
[04:42] <HymnToLife> !upgrade
[04:42] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:42] <imonkey> evert: im almost certain you can upagrade it from breezy :)
[04:42] <imonkey> HymnToLife: does that also cover my question?
[04:43] <HymnToLife> yeah, tht's wht it's for :)
[04:43] <imonkey> HymnToLife: ok sorry thought it was for evert :)
[04:44] <BazziR> imonkey: you can always download the latest flights from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com I think
[04:45] <HymnToLife> yeah but what's the point in downloading the whole ISO when you can upgrade just the stuff you need ?
[04:45] <BazziR> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/ <- there we go.
[04:45] <imonkey> BazziR: thanks ill bookmark it right away :)
[04:45] <BazziR> if upgrade is available, upgrade should be done of course :=)
[04:45] <imonkey> HymnToLife: i dont got breezy installed anymore.. and trew away the iso :P
[04:45] <imonkey> yeah stupid i know
[04:46] <HymnToLife> I heard Dapper has a graphical installer, pity
[04:46] <BazziR> I didn't dare to use the graphical installer yet
[04:46] <HymnToLife> I will stick with "Install Breezy and then upgrade to Dapper" I guees, just like I do with Debin
[04:46] <BazziR> too buggy
[04:46] <v3ctor> also has non-graphical
[04:50] <imonkey> !dapper
[04:50] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:01] <pussfeller> how can make an app run thru cron connect to X.. kdialog sez it cant connect
[05:03] <pussfeller> the libtunepimp in ubuntu wont do mp3s which is why it wont workwith amarok, iirc
[05:03] <pussfeller> SiriusA,
[05:03] <evert> how can i call to a windows user with Ekiga ? (i have installed it just , and it's working :) )
[05:06] <pussfeller> evert call their sip number
[05:06] <pussfeller> sip:number
[05:13] <evert> i can call to a sip number , but how do i know the sip number of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or (for a gtalk user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[05:17] <pussfeller> evert, Iit might be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:17] <pussfeller> i was just liiking at the faq, i aint sure
[05:18] <gili> i need help with kubuntu networkin setupo
[05:18] <gili> anywone
[05:18] <gili> i installed the kubuntu CD
[05:18] <gili> i had no network connection so i had to leave it all blank
[05:18] <gili> i can access network settings at all now
[05:19] <evert> ok
[05:19] <gili> can someone tell me what is going on!!
[05:19] <gili> i cant access them excuse me
[05:20] <evert> does ekiga supports 'just out of the box' to call to a windows msn user (like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>) ?
[05:20] <gili> will someone here help me?
[05:20] <Kyral> if you ask
[05:20] <gili> i am asking
[05:20] <Kyral> if you ask it, they will answer
[05:20] <gili> nice
[05:21] <Kyral> then I wasn't paying attention lol
[05:21] <Kyral> <== Is in 15 channels
[05:21] <gili> I installed the Kubunut latests image on cd and boot it up, since i dont have internet at office
[05:21] <gili> i had to leave the network config part blank
[05:21] <gili> now after install was done...it completely locked network settings
[05:21] <gili> i cant access them now
[05:22] <Kyral> use the commandline ifconfig then
[05:22] <gili> ok can you please tell me how...
[05:22] <Kyral> man ifconfig?
[05:22] <gili> ok
[05:22] <Kyral> I know I shouldn't do RTFM
[05:22] <Kyral> but I just woke up lol
[05:22] <squilla> gili: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:22] <gili> sorry i dont know the lingo RTFM?
[05:23] <squilla> gili: sudo dhclient eth0
[05:23] <Kyral> basically a very rude way to tell you to read the manual
[05:23] <gili> ok
[05:23] <Kyral> like I said
[05:23] <gili> read the fing manual ok
[05:23] <Kyral> before caffine reaches my brain, Kyral not happy :P
[05:24] <gili> thansk squilla
[05:24] <gili> now can you tell me why i cant acess the settings from the GUI
[05:24] <gili> it keeps locking up
[05:25] <squilla> gili:no sorry
[05:25] <squilla> gili: which gui
[05:25] <gili> when i go to the network preferences and enter admin mode it wont let me do any config it locks up
[05:25] <gili> crashes
[05:26] <squilla> gili: "networking or "networkng tools"?
[05:26] <squilla> gili:use  "networking"
[05:26] <gili> networking under system preferences
[05:26] <gili> where it lists the devices
[05:26] <gili> botht my ethernet and wireless are disabled
[05:26] <gili> when i enter admin mode and try to enable them it does nothings
[05:26] <squilla> gili:open a terminal --> type "sudo network-admin"
[05:27] <crazykiller> hi
[05:27] <gili> ok
[05:27] <gili> and then
[05:27] <gili> ?
[05:28] <gili> i will do that
[05:28] <squilla> gili:select the device you want - click properties; select dhcp
[05:28] <crazykiller> i have installed Ubuntu + KDE. How can I UNINSTALL Gnome???
[05:28] <squilla> gili:click "ok", try a website..... and get back to me :-)
[05:28] <gili> i have tried that from the sytem settings and it crashes
[05:29] <squilla> crazy:why would you?
[05:29] <squilla> crazy:space?
[05:29] <gili> i will try it from the terminal
[05:29] <squilla> gili:try it - I have other ways
[05:29] <squilla> gili:coolio!
[05:30] <gili> why would it be locked up after install, just a question
[05:30] <gili> do I HAVE TO HAVE a network connection when installing kbuntu of cd-rom
[05:30] <crazykiller> i get confused with the gnome applications. Sorry , its the first time at Linux
[05:30] <DrNickRiviera> anyone here use azureus from universe?
[05:30] <squilla> crazy:probably use adept/synaptic and select gnome-desktop+ remove
[05:30] <DrNickRiviera> hi squilla
[05:30] <squilla> DrNick: Yo!
[05:31] <squilla> gili:It helps
[05:31] <DrNickRiviera> you had any problems with it?
[05:31] <DrNickRiviera> whenever i start it my computer slows to a crawl
[05:31] <crazykiller> thanx, i ask because yesterday i uninstall the whole x-window by mistake!
[05:31] <DrNickRiviera> and i never see the gui or anything
[05:31] <gili> ok thanks squilla will try now
[05:31] <gili> quit
[05:31] <squilla> DrNick: not used it - not the fliesharing type - we pay for our bandwidth in this country :-(
[05:32] <DrNickRiviera> ah, ok
[05:32] <DrNickRiviera> anyone else used it?
[05:32] <squilla> why not use kbittorrent?
[05:33] <DrNickRiviera> mainly because i've used azureus for ages and still have quite a few unfinished torrents
[05:34] <DrNickRiviera> might have a look at it though
[05:34] <squilla> the tor files can't be copied over?
[05:34] <squilla> I know I managed that before in kde - just clicked on them and kbittorrent opens up ...
[05:35] <squilla> DrNick: otherwise I can't help - you could run it from a terminal and watch the output
[05:35] <squilla> DrNick: it's a java app?
[05:42] <DrNickRiviera> squilla: i've downloaded half of them
[05:42] <DrNickRiviera> so they are on the hard drive, just not complete
[05:42] <DrNickRiviera> it is a java app, yes
[05:42] <DrNickRiviera> is there some way i can get the kmenu to update without rebooting?
[05:43] <squilla> DrNick: you mean logging out ? with ctrl+alt+bkscpce?
[05:44] <DrNickRiviera> wont that close all the programs i've got running?
[05:44] <colo> it till kill them
[05:44] <DrNickRiviera> my problem is, that after i install programs they don't show up in the kmenu until i reboot
[05:44] <colo> not "close" them
[05:44] <colo> ;)
[05:45] <squilla> DrNick: you can start them at the cli anyway
[05:45] <DrNickRiviera> i know
[05:45] <DrNickRiviera> that's what i do
[05:46] <DrNickRiviera> but would still be nice to have them either pop up automatically, or run some command to have it update
[05:47] <squilla> DrNick:*flirting over kopete* some do ... odd
[05:47] <evert> I have problems with Ekiga , i can't connect to a msn adres , to have a audio conversation.... can somebody help me with this problem pls ?
[05:49] <squilla> evert: do you have an account with ekiga?
[05:50] <gili> hello
[05:50] <gili> need help with networking
[05:51] <gili> qsilla
[05:51] <gili> ?
[05:51] <gili> i tried sudo ifconfig nothing
[05:52] <gili> when kubuntu boots up its say both on basic networking setup and ont netwwork interfaces that failed
[05:52] <gili> i cant seem to acces the network config at all
[05:53] <squilla> gili: what network card is it?
[05:53] <gili> i have ethernet realtek
[05:53] <gili> and atheros wifi card
[05:53] <gili> but i did what you told me
[05:53] <gili> and no go
[05:54] <gili> when i go to system settings>internet concections>network preferences
[05:54] <gili> both ethernet and wifi interfaces are disabled
[05:54] <squilla> gili: type"lsmod | grep rt" and look for the driver for your network card
[05:55] <gili> when it try use administrator mode to enable them it does nothing
[05:55] <gili> it sees the drives
[05:55] <gili> drivers it just wont let me enable anything
[05:55] <gili> do i need to reinstall the OS or what?
[05:56] <squilla> gili: No! :-D
[05:56] <squilla> gili: we're not dealing with M$ here ....
[05:56] <gili> excuse me i meant linux
[05:56] <gili> sorry
[05:57] <gili> please bear with me here...
[05:57] <squilla> gili: try "ifconig" I want to know if you see any devices there
[05:57] <squilla> gili: chill my guy :-) - it's all in fun
[05:57] <gili> when i boot up......the kubuntu screen says that "Network interface config/setup failed"
[05:58] <squilla> gili:" ifconfig" soz
[05:58] <gili> when i type ifconfig it recognizes the device
[05:58] <gili> but i cant enable it
[05:58] <gili> i have tried it
[05:58] <gili> but i am, as you can tell, a newbie
[05:58] <gili> so i dont really knowwhat i am doing
[05:59] <squilla> gili:never mind that
[05:59] <gili> ok
[05:59] <squilla> gili:what does it show you? eth0? lo? ath0?
[05:59] <gili> i did ifconfig ath0 up
[05:59] <gili> right
[05:59] <gili> then or eth0 up
[06:00] <cow_2001> i once told kerry to load beagled every time i log into kde
[06:00] <gili> either way it shows me the info
[06:00] <gili> mac adresss
[06:00] <gili> etc...
[06:00] <cow_2001> then i couldn't make it to not load it everytime
[06:00] <gili> what should i be looking for
[06:01] <gili> it recognizes both ath0 and eth0
[06:01] <squilla> gili:but no ip numbers?
[06:02] <gili> nope
[06:02] <gili> it doesnt connect to anything
[06:02] <gili> when i go to configure interfaces in the system settings it crashes
[06:02] <gili> i think it conflicts the two cards
[06:02] <gili> cause when i do ifconfig i get type:ethernet for both
[06:03] <squilla> gili:no no - look at the output of eth0 - on the second line you'll see "inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>" or whatever - if there's no number we can fix it and that is your problem
[06:04] <gili> no number
[06:05] <squilla> gili:type "sudo ifdown ath0"
[06:05] <nathan> ellooo
[06:05] <gili> ok and then
[06:06] <evert> squilla , sry i was away for a moment
[06:06] <evert> i have got an account for ekiga
[06:06] <squilla> gili:type "ifconfig" again
[06:06] <squilla> gili:ath0 is gone right?
[06:06] <gili> is ifdown ath0 same us ifconfig ath0 down
[06:07] <squilla> gili:don't know
[06:07] <squilla> gili:keep it simple for now
[06:07] <gili> ok
[06:07] <gili> ifconfig didnt show me ath0 or eth0
[06:07] <gili> i will try that shortly and let you know
[06:08] <evert> can you help me a bit squilla pls ?
[06:08] <gili> ok sqilla thanks
[06:08] <gili> help ever
[06:08] <gili> evert
[06:08] <gili> i will try it
[06:08] <squilla> I can help both (slowly :-))
[06:09] <gili> how do i get kubuntu to do this at boot time
[06:09] <squilla> gili: ifconfig --> just to see what's available - the fact that they are there means they're ok
[06:09] <gili> ok
[06:09] <gili> later
[06:09] <evert> ok , i have Ekiga installed ... i'm logged in (i think) but now i wanna call to a windows user (he uses msn). I typed in the field : sip<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but he can't connect then
[06:10] <squilla> gili: if eth0 is there type "sudo dhclient3 eth0"
[06:10] <squilla> gili: let me know ...
[06:10] <squilla> evert:
[06:11] <evert> yes ?
[06:11] <squilla> evert: you have to use sip:user@ip number - I was googling for info - I've never done it before
[06:11] <squilla> evert: I'm still looking
[06:12] <evert> me too , but i have found in the ekiga faq (and the help from ekiga) that i can call somebody with 'sip:name(@ekiga.net)'
[06:12] <squilla> evert: I'd like to do it myself - don't like skype
[06:12] <evert> if he uses a ekiga.net account , you can leave it blank
[06:12] <evert> i tried to use skype , but it failed to work on linux
[06:12] <squilla> evert: that's the easy one - but teh msn thing ... lets look around?
[06:13] <squilla> evert: skype fails? why/
[06:13] <evert> btw , stupid question , but if you say something to me it's highlited in red .. how can you do that ?
[06:14] <evert> because i'm using the 64 bit version , i'm missing some packages but my system fails to install them (strange thing i know)
[06:15] <evert> It should work with Windows Messenger, not MSN Messenger, which is
[06:15] <evert> different.
[06:15] <squilla> evert: I have AMD64 - but it's simpler for now to use 32bit version
[06:16] <evert> i know , but i'm using boinc with rosetta@home , my score is much better with 64 bit :)
[06:17] <sampan> anyone know if it's normal for screen (the useful app) to show up as a 2nd logged in user?  i.e., if at CLI i do "users" i see myself logged in ... but if i run screen and do "users" i see my username logged in twice -- is that normal?
[06:17] <squilla> evert:I tried to chat to you in a tab - can you see it?
[06:19] <evert> sry i missed the tab , but i can't talk to u because i'm unregistered
[06:19] <squilla> evert: register please - I want to try something
[06:20] <evert> ok , can you tell me fast how ? (or i'll search it)
[06:20] <squilla> evert: the color thing is in the settings for konversation
[06:20] <squilla> type "/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"
[06:21] <nathan> hmm
[06:33] <squilla> evert: did you see what I said about "CTRL K"?
[06:39] <kubuntutaotao> my kaffeine is crashed,and reinstall it that it doesn't run,why?
[06:41] <squilla> try "ps ax | grep kaffeine"
[06:41] <squilla> Then type "kill -9 (each PID number that appears on the left)
[06:42] <OdyX> squilla: or "killall kaffeine"
[06:43] <squilla> OdyX: doen't work as well as it used to - often the binary name of a program is tied up in a path and killall fails then
[06:43] <addone> i use kubuntu 5.10, and update my kde to 3.5.2, and then found that i couldn't copy & paste files in the same folder anymore
[06:43] <squilla> OdyX: try it with firefox
[06:43] <kubuntutaotao>  7599 ?        S      0:00 perl /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts/cmd konversation irc.freenode.net #kubuntu ps ax | grep kaffeine
[06:43] <kubuntutaotao>  7600 ?        R      0:00 sh -c ps ax | grep kaffeine
[06:44] <kubuntutaotao> squilla: up
[06:44] <squilla> "kill -9 7600"
[06:44] <addone> has anyone here got into the same trouble?
[06:45] <squilla> addone: I don't really understand
[06:45] <sonic> Anyone know how I can make 'Konversation' make a sound when I get a message directed to me?
[06:45] <kubuntutaotao> squilla: ok.then????
[06:46] <addone> i mean, i just couldn't duplicate my files by copy & paste
[06:46] <OdyX> sonic: "Settings" "Notifications"
[06:46] <addone> in kde 3.5.0, when i copy & paste the same file, it will give me a dialog to rename the file.
[06:47] <addone> but in kde 3.5.2, when i do the same, it just give me an error dialog saying the source and the target are the same
[06:48] <addone> what i can do is just click on the OK button , i couldn't rename it and got a duplicated file
[06:49] <sonic> OdyX: Aha thanks. So I have to assign the sounds myself?
[06:49] <squilla> Kubuntu: try start kaffeine again
[06:49] <OdyX> sonic: I think so
[06:50] <squilla> ok - and you can't click and rename files? or save them somewhere else?
[06:50] <sonic> OdyX: Thanks.
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> squilla:
[06:50] <addone> i can't copy & paste files in the same folder
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> ttkubuntu@TTkubuntu:~$ kaffeine
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> DVB 0 :
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> DVB 1 :
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> DVB 2 :
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> DVB 3 :
[06:50] <kubuntutaotao> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[06:51] <OdyX> addone: try to use [Ctrl]  during drag
[06:52] <squilla> addone: I can't see why you'd want to - sorry guy - can't help you
[06:53] <addone> thx, but i mean that in the same folder, i couldn't duplicate a file with copy&paste
[06:53] <Chousuke> hmmh
[06:53] <addone> it just gives me a dialog saying the source and the target are the same, i could do nothing
[06:53] <Chousuke> kubuntutaotao: can I get that in English?
[06:53] <squilla> addone: oh i see, I never have :-). umm - just save as?
[06:54] <Chousuke> oops :/
[06:54] <addone> in konqueror, copy & paste
[06:55] <squilla> addone: just tried - does it - puts the word "copy" in th namee
[06:56] <addone> in konqueror , trying to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir
[06:56] <jel> ok I need some help with my partitions :(
[06:57] <jel> the live CD installer botched up, and fudged the boot table
[06:57] <jel> or similar
[06:57] <jel> :S
[06:57] <jel> the partitions are in tact
[06:57] <addone> it works in kde 3.5.0 ,it will allow me to rename my file;however in 3.5.2, it just show me an error...
[07:01] <sonic> Anybody know how I can set firefox as my default browseer for opening links from email and IRC etc?
[07:02] <addone> sonic, you can configure your default browser in Kcontrol
[07:03] <sonic> Cheers
[07:04] <addone> go to "kde components"->"component selector", you will find it
[07:05] <sonic> I can't find kde components
[07:06] <sonic> I just types kcontrol in a terminal and got it up, (but would like to know where kde components is for future reference anyway
[07:06] <addone> i'm sorry ,my kde isn't english, just goto the second menu
[07:06] <sonic> ok, thanks
[07:07] <sonic> got it :-)
[07:09] <addone> i use kubuntu 5.10 and kde 3.5.2, in konqueror, i try to duplicate a file by simply copy & paste in the same dir, but i got an error dialog saying that the source and the target file are the same, what i can only do is click on the OK button.
[07:10] <addone> however, in kde 3.5.0, when i do the same, it will show me a dialog to rename the duplicated file, not an error dialog.
[07:12] <addone> and i have post the problem in the #kde channel, they told me it isn't kde's bug, 'cause they can got the rename dialog.
[07:13] <addone> so i suppose it is only happen on kubuntu, is anyone here had got into the same trouble?
[07:13] <Blissex> addone: you have to change the name...
[07:14] <addone> but it should allow me to rename the file, not just show me an error...
[07:14] <addone> and in previous version, it works well
[07:15] <XVampireX> evert_: What package did you download?
[07:17] <Blissex> addone: yes, the logic of how it works has been changed...
[07:17] <addone> and it is only changed in kubuntu?
[07:17] <Blissex> addone: use right click and 'Copy To'
[07:18] <Blissex> addone: no, it is changed in Fedora too etc., just a revision of the user interface I guess
[07:18] <evert_> hello
[07:18] <addone> oh no, when i use "copy to", i can't select current dir...
[07:18] <evert_> i didn't download packages , i just downloaded the 'static' map from the skype site
[07:19] <Blissex> addone: you can, thats the default with 'Browse'
[07:19] <XVampireX> Why don't you get the the deb package?
[07:19] <evert_> because i'm using 64 bit , the deb is only for 32 bit
[07:19] <XVampireX> Ah
[07:19] <XVampireX> How about the QT version?
[07:19] <XVampireX> Static binary tar.bz2 with Qt 3.2 compiled in (10.4 MB)
[07:19] <XVampireX>  Use if the above dont work.
[07:20] <evert_> yes
[07:20] <evert_> i tried them both
[07:20] <addone> it doesn't work, i got the same error dialog...
[07:20] <XVampireX> And what does it say?
[07:20] <evert_> they give both the same error :
[07:20] <evert_> ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:20] <BazziR> ooo
[07:21] <XVampireX> You need that library
[07:21] <addone> Blissex, when i use "copy to", the current dir can't be choose
[07:21] <evert_> in adept , i can see that that lib is already installed
[07:21] <BazziR> they may try to load that from /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 where you might have it
[07:21] <XVampireX> You need the exact same version too
[07:21] <addone> and when i use "browse", i just got the same error dialog
[07:21] <evert_> yes , it's the same version (libpng 12)
[07:21] <XVampireX> Weird
[07:22] <XVampireX> It says it cannot find the library
[07:22] <evert_> but adept says that the lib is installed
[07:23] <BazziR> evert_: do a sudo updatedb and then locate libpng12.so where is it found?
[07:23] <Midspeed> hi
[07:24] <evert_> libpng12: /usr/lib/libpng12.a /usr/lib/libpng12.so /usr/include/libpng12
[07:25] <BazziR> hm, create a symlink
[07:25] <Yon_0> hey all
[07:25] <evert_> how can you do that ? (sry i'm quite new to linux)
[07:25] <BazziR> libpng12.so -> libpng12.so.0
[07:25] <squilla> Yon_0: hello
[07:25] <Yon_0> does anyone know java? or a channle i can join for a help
[07:25] <Yon_0> hey squilla :D
[07:25] <evert_> libpng12.so: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so
[07:25] <BazziR> using "ln -s", you can find the exact syntax by typing man ln in the console
[07:25] <Yon_0> how u doin?
[07:25] <BazziR> oh
[07:26] <XVampireX> Yon_0: ##java
[07:26] <BazziR> seems it's there afterall?
[07:26] <squilla> Yon_0: coolio
[07:26] <evert_> i have to do what now ?
[07:26] <Yon_0> kk thx XVampireX
[07:26] <Midspeed> hey i have a question! sorry to butt in and all, but isnt there a way that i can upgrade my kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 beta2?
[07:26] <BazziR> weird problem then
[07:26] <squilla> evert: use the full path names - or it'll create a link where you are
[07:26] <Midspeed> without having to use a cd
[07:27] <BazziR> Midspeed: yes
[07:27] <Midspeed> how BazziR?
[07:27] <Midspeed> im new at this!
[07:27] <BazziR> Midspeed: replace every "breezy" in your sources.list with "dapper" and then runapt-get update and afterwards apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <evert_> i'm in /home/evert/installs/skype ...
[07:27] <Brujah> hy everybody!
[07:27] <Midspeed> ok thanks im gonna try that right now
[07:28] <Midspeed> thanks BazziR
[07:28] <BazziR> gotta go now, the folks here can help you out surely.
[07:28] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:28] <Brujah> are there any plans to make the startup of kubuntu  graphical like it is in mandriva, suse and the like?
[07:29] <squilla> evert:"ln -s  libpng12.so /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0"
[07:29] <squilla> evert:but check that you have the correct file names
[07:30] <squilla> evert:aaargh - other way round!
[07:30] <evert_> so i have to do ln -s /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 libpng12.so.0 ?
[07:31] <squilla> evert:try it
[07:31] <squilla> if you/re not sure type "man ln"
[07:31] <squilla> I'm hungry
[07:32] <evert_> still the same eroor
[07:32] <evert_> error
[07:33] <squilla> earlier you could read where skype looks for libraries - copy paste that in our private tab please
[07:34] <gil_> hello
[07:34] <gil_> is squilla
[07:34] <gil_> still here?
[07:35] <squilla> gil:hi - in a private chat. wazzup?
[07:35] <gil_> well i need your help again :)
[07:35] <squilla> gil:sure - tell
[07:36] <gil_> do you remember my problem
[07:36] <gil_> networking
[07:36] <squilla> ja several hundred lines up :-D
[07:36] <gil_> anyways i got the eth0 to enable but i cant get ath0 to enable
[07:36] <squilla> do you need it?
[07:36] <squilla> gil;do you need it?
[07:37] <gil_> my wireless yes
[07:37] <squilla> gil:hmmkay
[07:37] <gil_> ifconfig picks up eth0 with the ip from router no poblem
[07:37] <squilla> gil: so: ifconfig shows what?
[07:38] <gil_> the following three: ath0 eth0 and lo
[07:38] <gil_> ath0 is wireless atheros card... it pick it up with MAC adrees no ip adress
[07:39] <gil_> i cant enable it under system settings
[07:39] <squilla> gil: so: sudo dhclient3 ath0
[07:40] <gil_> ok can i have both wireless and ethernet hooked up at the same time
[07:40] <squilla> gil: I'm assuming you have a dsl router
[07:40] <gil_> cable router yes
[07:41] <squilla> well ... not sure - you can't use them to connect to the net  in the same machine at the same time
[07:41] <squilla> that's loop I think
[07:42] <gil_> ok now when i do ifconfig i get the lo loop listed is that normal
[07:42] <milian> does anyone of you know when flash 8.5 (or 9?) is going to be released for linux?
[07:42] <Yon_0> squilla dont u know java?
[07:43] <squilla> gil: lo should be listed all the time
[07:43] <squilla> Yon_0: I code worse than my mom
[07:43] <Yon_0> lol, im struggeling with a damn input!
[07:44] <squilla> Yon_0: ah . you too code worse than  my mom!
[07:44] <Yon_0> lol ye
[07:44] <Goffi> hi
[07:44] <Yon_0> can anyone code java here?
[07:45] <squilla> hello
[07:50] <squilla> Yon_0: be a real man and learn python
[07:52] <cycom> squilla: be a real man and learn to accept java as your new master.
[07:53] <evert_> be a real man and learn c++
[07:53] <cycom> ewww!
[07:53] <crimsun> real men don't worry about the language and just solve the problem instead.
[07:54] <Yon_0> lol, i knew a lil bit before hey, its quick to learn
[07:54] <cycom> Java is like C++ with a condom on.  It's a lot safer to screw with.
[07:55] <evert_> i never used java ... but how can it be 'safer' ?
[07:55] <evert_> less chance on memory leaks etc with pointers ?
[07:59] <skipjack> hello
[08:00] <Vampis> skipjack: hi
[08:00] <squilla> hi
[08:01] <skipjack> hello i have installed the Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6, but after the installation my system hangs at the "Mounting root file system..."  (my systems was hanging already as I want to install, after Loading Kernel ..  it hangs and after I have remove some ram and insert only 256MB it was sworking and the installer appears ..)
[08:02] <dinofly> check your ram with memtest
[08:03] <skipjack> I have the mem is oky, I and I have already installed only the 256MB module what I have use for the installation ..
[08:04] <dinofly> you already have checked if your ram is OK ?
[08:04] <skipjack> hmm.. now it boots after changing the ram and insderting the 512mb module.. I will test the ram a second time ..
[08:05] <skipjack> oky this problem will I find self out ;)
[08:05] <skipjack> is there an default root password by kubuntu? I think I haven't give any root password ..
[08:06] <squilla> skip: type "sudo <command>"
[08:07] <squilla> skip: and use your normal user password
[08:07] <dinofly> skipjack: on ubuntu you have no root password
[08:08] <dinofly> use sudo instead
[08:09] <siefkencp> any one know of a good mysql gui thats not gonna cost me?
[08:10] <squilla> phpmysqladmin
[08:10] <siefkencp> aside from that
[08:10] <Vampis> mysqlcc
[08:10] <squilla> check adept
[08:11] <dinofly> i'm searching for such a tool too
[08:11] <siefkencp> i used to use navicat... and i love it
[08:11] <dinofly> a "sqlyog" clone would be good
[08:11] <siefkencp> but its too expensive to be worth my time
[08:12] <siefkencp> yeah sqlyog is pretty nice
[08:12] <dinofly> i think we have to code it :)
[08:12] <Vampis> :D
[08:12] <Vampis> i use the console though
[08:13] <Vampis> :)
[08:13] <siefkencp> console?
[08:13] <Vampis> hm, wich port does the VNC in gnome use? For the "desktop-sharing"
[08:13] <Vampis> ?
[08:13] <siefkencp> as in... comand line..
[08:13] <Vampis> siefkencp: yes
[08:14] <siefkencp> yeah comand line is great but i dont feel like setting up all the tables and such by hand... i guess im just a lazy bastard that way
[08:14] <Vampis> lol
[08:14] <Vampis>  :)
[08:14] <Vampis> well, that can be a bitch
[08:14] <Vampis> :>
[08:14] <siefkencp> php my admin is usefull but lacks on some features
[08:15] <siefkencp> i guess im just too damn picky
[08:15] <Vampis> one should be picky
[08:15] <Vampis> we settle for medium quality
[08:15] <Vampis> :D
[08:15] <dinofly> when you have to work all day on mysql, phpmyadmin is a pain
[08:15] <dinofly> otherwise it is very useful
[08:16] <dinofly> but a web interface should always be a fallback solution
[08:16] <Vampis> yep
[08:17] <SmokeW33d> hello
[08:17] <SmokeW33d> does anyone know the command to test my nividia driver
[08:17] <SmokeW33d> its that gears program
[08:18] <siefkencp> does Ubuntu have a fire wall set up by default?
[08:19] <Vampis> SmokeW33d: glxgears -printfps
[08:19] <siefkencp> i have yet to learn about how iptables and other such vodoo works
[08:19] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: thanks
[08:19] <Vampis> np
[08:20] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: now would you happen to know how to mount mds files?
[08:20] <siefkencp> well, i get how they work
[08:20] <siefkencp> i just havent bothered to learn how to configure them at the command line
[08:20] <Vampis> SmokeW33d: dunno, try like ordinary iso
[08:21] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: how would I do that
[08:21] <Vampis> I dont mount manualy, I installed a servicemenu for kde
[08:22] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: lol in other words?
[08:22] <Vampis> w8
[08:22] <Icke> how do I manually start the gui (xserver) from the console?
[08:23] <Lynoure> Icke: startx should prolly work in ubuntu too
[08:23] <petsei> hello :)
[08:23] <SmokeW33d> hello
[08:23] <Vampis> SmokeW33d: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/707853
[08:23] <Vampis> like that
[08:23] <siefkencp> any answers on how to list out the blocked or open ports on the default firewall?
[08:24] <Vampis> hm, nmap ?
[08:24] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: thanks
[08:24] <OdyX> siefkencp: guarddog is pretty fine for that
[08:24] <Vampis> SmokeW33d: Dont know if it works on mds files though
[08:25] <siefkencp> odyx: do i need to apt-get it?
[08:25] <OdyX> siefkencp: yep
[08:25] <OdyX> siefkencp: then launch guarddog
[08:25] <Vampis> I just did
[08:25] <Vampis> :)
[08:25] <Vampis> Just to check it out :)
[08:26] <siefkencp> kool... getting it
[08:26] <Vampis> hm, looks nice
[08:26] <Vampis> *removes*
[08:26] <Vampis> :)
[08:26] <siefkencp> so theres no initial fire wall set up>
[08:26] <siefkencp> ?
[08:26] <Vampis> dont think so
[08:27] <siefkencp> hmm
[08:27] <Vampis> but I'm not 100% sure
[08:27] <siefkencp> i cant remotely connect to mysql...
[08:27] <Vampis> are you behind a router ?
[08:27] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: can utell me why i cant play mp3s?
[08:27] <siefkencp> nope... both on the same subnet and all
[08:28] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: in amarok with the xine engine installed
[08:28] <SmokeW33d> Vampis: thanks again
[08:28] <Vampis> np
[08:29] <Vampis> Time 2 go home
[08:29] <Vampis> cYa tomorrow
[08:29] <Vampis> or l8:er tonight
[08:29] <Lynoure> no initial firewall but no ports listening to incoming traffic by default
[08:29] <siefkencp> ahh hah!
[08:30] <siefkencp> how do i fix that?
[08:30] <siefkencp> http works
[08:30] <Lynoure> siefkencp: http in from some other machine to yours works? Installed a server, then?
[08:31] <siefkencp> yeah... ive got the full lamppp stack my man
[08:31] <Lynoure> siefkencp: Just to orient myself right, what's your goal?
[08:31] <siefkencp> im just trying to connec to M from a foreign machine
[08:32] <Icke> damn textmode linux
[08:32] <Lynoure> and your apache is up and running and binding to a port?
[08:32] <siefkencp> yep
[08:32] <Lynoure> Icke: did you try startx already?
[08:32] <siefkencp> mysql is working fine on the loop back
[08:33] <siefkencp> but when i try to access across the network it dies out
[08:33] <Icke> yeah Lynoure , but it crashes
[08:33] <Lynoure> Icke: damn. What display card?
[08:33] <Lynoure> siefkencp: Actually dies? Then there is something else wrong...
[08:34] <siefkencp> Icke: have you tried removing x and reinstalling?
[08:34] <siefkencp> no it just wont allow the connection
[08:34] <Icke> When i boot to the login screen, I can enter my pass, the the screen goes black but i see the hourglass, that a second later turns into the cursor and responds to my mouse movement, but 2 seconds later, I am back at the login screen again
[08:34] <siefkencp> mysql is healthy
[08:34] <siefkencp> ahh
[08:34] <Icke> got an ATI X600 that worked with kubuntu before
[08:34] <siefkencp> thats a gnome/kde problem -- sounds like to me
[08:35] <Icke> reinstalling X would be wise methinks
[08:35] <siefkencp> x runs you dm though
[08:35] <Icke> ah yes, so KDE is to blame?
[08:35] <siefkencp> brb 2 secs
[08:36] <siefkencp> im guessing
[08:38] <dinofly> Icke: are you sure that your user has writing rights on his home directory ?
[08:38] <Lynoure> Icke: I have X600 myself (on hp nc8230)
[08:38] <Icke> Im quite sure yes
[08:38] <Lynoure> Icke: Look at the time stamp on your xorg config file, has it changed recently?
[08:38] <Icke> certainly havent changed that, and it work for months
[08:39] <skipjack> when I make sudo root | password prompt comes, and then I push enter .. and when I now make passwd root  the passwd command says me that I can't change password for root ..
[08:39] <ziza> !samba
[08:39] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[08:39] <dinofly> Icke: i had the same problem after reinstalling without deleting my home partition
[08:39] <Lynoure> skipjack: Did you remember to write sudo there too? :)
[08:40] <skipjack> I have write sudo
[08:40] <Lynoure> Icke: I asked whether it has changed, not if you changed it...
[08:40] <Icke> how can I see the timestamp of my xorg config file?
[08:40] <skipjack> and I have write sudo su -  | or sudo passwd root nothing works ..
[08:40] <siefkencp> ls -l
[08:40] <Lynoure> Icke: At least in dapper ther has been xserver updates like rain, and sometimes updates stupidly modify config files
[08:42] <siefkencp> Icke that ls -l was for ya
[08:42] <Lynoure> Icke: ls -la filename
[08:42] <Icke> xorg.conf has not changed since 04-04-2006
[08:42] <Icke> and im quite sure it worked after that date
[08:43] <Icke> thanks for the tips btw guys
[08:43] <Lynoure> hmm...
[08:43] <Icke> learning my way around textmode the hard way :D
[08:43] <Lynoure> Icke: Sorry they wouldn't help. Which driver do you use for your x600, btw?
[08:43] <v3ctor> it is the only way
[08:44] <dinofly> icke: have you tried to create a new user and to login with it ?
[08:44] <Icke> ill try that now
[08:44] <siefkencp> Lynoure: doesnt X run the kdm/gdm?
[08:45] <siefkencp> you can always reconfig to get it runing in xdm... theres an etc file to do that... it will tell you if its truely x that is the problem
[08:45] <Lynoure> siefkencp: kind of other way around
[08:45] <siefkencp> hmm
[08:45] <Icke> i closed the graphical login screen, how do i get it back?
[08:46] <siefkencp> i think you can do gdm or kdm or xdm right at the comand line??
[08:46] <siefkencp> i went through this before with a RHEL 4 problem
[08:46] <v3ctor>  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:46] <colo> /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:46] <dinofly> Icke: gdm if you use gnome, kdm if you use kde
[08:46] <colo> LAG FFS!
[08:46] <v3ctor>  ;P
[08:47] <Icke> "kdm" says it only runs as root and "sudo kdm" does seem to do anything
[08:47] <v3ctor> sudo  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:47] <siefkencp> its not installed by default
[08:47] <Seantater> Is there a way to get data from one computer to another in ~512MB sections, in a rsync-like fashion?
[08:47] <siefkencp> gdm is
[08:47] <Lynoure> siefkencp: I think pretty much everyone go through an "my x does not start" problem at some point... usually whenever installing on a new computer..
[08:48] <evert> can somebody give me a link of a download for kubuntu (dapper drake32 bit)
[08:48] <siefkencp> yah, i went through it after having my production machine humming along...
[08:48] <Lynoure> siefkencp:  but this is #kubuntu
[08:48] <Lynoure> siefkencp: so kdm is installed by default
[08:48] <v3ctor> Seantater: rsync
[08:48] <Seantater> v3ctor: how?
[08:48] <Icke> k, got kdm running again, how do i create a new user?
[08:49] <siefkencp> Lynoure: if you start in gnome and install kde with synaptic... you wont get kdm with out hunting for it
[08:49] <dinofly> Icke: in text mode :p
[08:49] <v3ctor> -B is for block size
[08:49] <Icke> obviously :D
[08:49] <dinofly> useradd new_user
[08:49] <Lynoure> siefkencp: but then you are kinda not on kubuntu either.. or maybe...
[08:49] <dinofly> sudo useradd new_user
[08:49] <Nirvana> !kdfjhsdf
[08:49] <ubotu> Nirvana: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <Lynoure> siefkencp: apt-get install kdm  ,I bet, no hunting
[08:50] <siefkencp> Lynoure: i dont know man... i just roll with what i got... today im runnin kde
[08:50] <v3ctor> rsync -a -B=524288 -e ssh source:/file destination
[08:50] <Seantater> v3ctor: How about saving that block to a usb stick and taking it to another computer?
[08:50] <Lynoure> siefkencp: :)
[08:50] <Seantater> v3ctor: will that do it?
[08:50] <siefkencp> it makes no dif... its not like i ever log out or restart the thing
[08:50] <Lynoure> siefkencp: woman, I understand completely :)
[08:51] <v3ctor> Seantater: give me a sec to test
[08:51] <Icke> new user did not work
[08:51] <siefkencp> you callin me a woman? lol?
[08:51] <Icke> same problem as my regular account
[08:52] <Seantater> v3ctor: hum -- let me look at that  and make sure you know my problem.. I'm not sure I phrased it right..
[08:52] <skipjack> hehe oky lets see what the Kubuntu from the LinuxTag 2006 can ;) do for me ;)
[08:52] <Icke> how can i see my what videodriver I have?
[08:52] <Icke> i suspect that that is to blame
[08:52] <Icke> that or KDE
[08:53] <v3ctor> Seantater: works here
[08:53] <Seantater> v3ctor: I've got 1/2 gazillion files to move from comp a to comp b, and I can the files on either from the opposite, but the net is too slow for transfer, so I want to use a USB memory stick..
[08:53] <v3ctor> may want to check on the size i put though..my math sucks
[08:53] <siefkencp> if it were a vid driver... it wouldnt just boot you back to kde... i dont suspect
[08:53] <dinofly> Icke: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[08:53] <jager> how do i convince firefox to use the mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[08:53] <Seantater> v3ctor: if that will do it, I'm game!
[08:53] <jager> instead of totem-mozilla?
[08:54] <dinofly> i don't think it's your video driver Icke
[08:54] <skipjack> hmm now it hangs by Mounting root file systems ...
[08:54] <dinofly> if you are in graphical mode then your video driver works
[08:54] <Icke> yeah
[08:54] <siefkencp> my arguement as well
[08:55] <Icke> so you reckon its kde?
[08:56] <dinofly> hard to say
[08:56] <dinofly> the user you newly created has the same problem ?
[08:56] <Icke> yes
[08:57] <Seantater> v3ctor: so in that case, I replace the source/dest with a folder and the take the usb stick, and cp it into the actual dest.. Okay -- Thanks!
[08:57] <dinofly> strange... sorry i can't help you more
[08:57] <Icke> thanks anyway
[08:57] <v3ctor>  ;)
[08:57] <Icke> i have to go now anyway
[08:57] <dinofly> good luck :)
[08:59] <Lynoure> Logs might have had something
[09:02] <NEOelder> algum me sabe dizer onde posso sakar a verso DVD? j sakei dos servidores indicados no site duas vezes mas sempre que tento instalar no VMware d erro num dos ficheiros...
[09:04] <NEOelder> sorry!
[09:04] <Lynoure> NEOelder: sorry, cannot understand more the DVD and VMware :/
[09:05] <NEOelder> haven't notice this was in english
[09:05] <dinofly> i think "ficheiros" means "file"
[09:06] <NEOelder> where can I find the DVD version??? I have already downloaded from the site server... but there is always an error in one of the files!!!
[09:07] <NEOelder> I've triyed to install it on VMware but cont move on because of an error with one of the files.....
[09:07] <Bartsk8> Bonjour tlm =]
[09:17] <Nirvana> !fr
[09:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:19] <heady> hi there, how to make gmail-notify to start up and log in after logging in to kubuntu ??
[09:26] <Nirvana> heady: look in the /use/share/autostart folder
[09:26] <Nirvana> heady: that would be /usr/share/Autostart actually.
[09:32] <pussfeller> aint there an autostart in .kde somewhere?
[09:32] <v3ctor> yes
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Anyone knows what is needed outside of echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward for address forwarding?
[09:33] <v3ctor>  ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:44] <Bartsk8> Salut
[09:45] <Bartsk8> J'ai ce problme : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:45] <Bartsk8> Quelqu'un pourrait m'aider?
[09:46] <Seantater> Bartsk8: try typing the following into a terminal:
[09:46] <Seantater> Bartsk8: apt-get install xorg-dev
[09:46] <Bartsk8> root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[09:46] <Bartsk8> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[09:46] <Bartsk8> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait
[09:46] <Bartsk8> E: Impossible de trouver le paquet xorg-dev
[09:47] <Seantater> Bartsk8: then do this:
[09:47] <Seantater> Bartsk8: apt-get install x-dev
[09:48] <Bartsk8> root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop# sudo apt-get install x-dev
[09:48] <Bartsk8> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[09:48] <Bartsk8> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait
[09:48] <Bartsk8> Aucune version du paquet x-dev n'est disponible, mais il existe dans la base
[09:48] <Bartsk8> de donnes. Cela signifie en gnral que le paquet est manquant, qu'il est devenu obsolte
[09:48] <Bartsk8> ou qu'il n'est disponible que sur une autre source
[09:48] <Bartsk8> E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet x-dev
[09:48] <Bartsk8> root@breezy:/home/meuwa/Desktop#
[09:49] <Bartsk8> Still nothing
[09:49] <KDEfanboy> if kubuntu be installed over an existing linux partition that has a directory, say /myfiles, will it install onto it without modifying/removing anything in there? ..for either versions 5.10 or 7
[09:49] <Seantater> Bartsk8: okay -- try this and then either of the above suggested commands:
[09:49] <Seantater> apt-get update
[09:50] <Bartsk8> It's already done
[09:50] <KDEfanboy> ..and does any version have a graphical (not ncurses) installer?
[09:51] <Bartsk8> I don't understand the question :/
[09:51] <Seantater> KDEfanboy: you want to install kubuntu with a GUI? just use the Live CD, it has an Installer now.. It's called Expresso
[09:51] <Seantater> Bartsk8: KDEfanboy was not personally asking you..
[09:51] <Bartsk8> Seantater -> When I try to install xlibs-deb from Adept
[09:52] <Bartsk8> I've a message which say that the pacjage is break
[09:52] <Seantater> Bartsk8: ah-ha!
[09:52] <Seantater> Bartsk8: that whoudl do it..
[09:52] <KDEfanboy> Seantater: yeah that's perfect - it's nice to use the computer while installing. is that in 5.10?
[09:52] <Seantater> I mean would, bot whoudl
[09:52] <Bartsk8> For xlibs-dev and every all packages who are around x
[09:52] <Seantater> KDEfanboy: nope, only 6.06
[09:52] <Bartsk8> Is there any solution?
[09:53] <KDEfanboy> oh
[09:53] <Seantater> Bartsk8: what does apt-get install say
[09:53] <Bartsk8> With wich cmd ?
[09:53] <Seantater> Bartsk8: let me rephrase that: what does this command say "apt-get install", with no quotes
[09:53] <Bartsk8> apt-get xlibs-dev ?
[09:53] <Seantater> Bartsk8: just don;t give it anything to install.
[09:53] <Bartsk8> Ok
[09:54] <Bartsk8> I send you in pv
[10:01] <mmport81> hi
[10:01] <mmport81> i just installed win32codecs
[10:02] <mmport81> but kaboodle or kaffeine doesn't pick them up
[10:02] <mmport81> i used freecontrib.org repository
[10:02] <mmport81> any ideas?
[10:02] <KDEfanboy> mmport81: i think i had a problem like that once.. i remember having to load xine and then setup win32codecs in there
[10:02] <ninHer> hi all
[10:03] <KDEfanboy> then i took the config file that it wrote,
[10:03] <OwlNoob> Hi all. just installed gnunet by apt and open ports and still not get any connexions... Any successes here?
[10:03] <Black_Codec> hi
[10:03] <KDEfanboy> and put it where the config file is for kaffeine... something like $KDEHOME/share/config/kaffiene/
[10:03] <Black_Codec> somebody speak italian here?
[10:03] <KDEfanboy> or something
[10:03] <mmport81> eek
[10:03] <mmport81> i did on my last setup no probs at all...
[10:04] <KDEfanboy> mmport81: yeah.. kaffeine had its own copy of xine config file. it didn't use the one in .xine
[10:04] <heady> how to select text in shell with keyboard ???
[10:04] <Black_Codec> Hi, somebody speak italian?
[10:05] <KDEfanboy> mmport81: this was a while back.. does kaffeine have a place to setup win32codecs directory in its configuration nowadays?
[10:05] <mmport81> i'll have a quick look
[10:06] <mmport81> last time i insalled it on breezy i hadn't any probs...
[10:06] <KDEfanboy> i hate when that happens
[10:06] <KDEfanboy> lol
[10:08] <KDEfanboy> i wasn't using kubuntu though.. just remembering how i fixed that for me on gentoo
[10:09] <mmport81> oh i'm too damn tired for fixing this stuff...  will leave it for another day
[10:09] <mmport81> thx for the help tho kdefanboy!!
[10:09] <KDEfanboy> np
[10:09] <rordonez> hello ... my friends !  i need to play mp3, but i have an error ... "gstreamer error" !
[10:12] <Nirvana> rordonez: do you have the codecs installed?
[10:13] <Nirvana> if your new, try easyubuntu
[10:13] <Nirvana> !easyubuntu
[10:21] <skipjack> is it possibel to add a menue item to the right click menue ? I want to habe a Open Terminal entry there ..
[10:25] <KDEfanboy> skipjack: in Konqueror?
[10:25] <skipjack> KDEfanboy,  no kde desktop ..
[10:28] <pussfeller> skipjack, thats konqueror
[10:29] <skipjack> yes who can I change the menue? whithout making a personal new menue ? I want to have the old entries already i the menue ..
[10:29] <zorgluuu> q. how can i configure xchat to launch konqueror and not firefox ?
[10:29] <Hoobly> trying to get Evolution to work with Exchange.  Does my Win23K server with Exchange23K have to have anything special installed?
[10:30] <KDEfanboy> skipjack: hmm well if you mean right click on the desktop, you can setup a custom menu for a mouse button. in kcontrol -> Behavior -> Mouse Button Actions -> and set it to Custom Menu, edit it
[10:31] <skipjack> yes oky I will see ;)
[10:32] <skipjack> is dapper drake 6 when I do apt-get upgrade running with kde4? because I think it downloading some things with a 4 .. ?
[10:33] <tschentz> Qt: 3.3.6
[10:33] <tschentz> KDE: 3.5.2
[10:33] <tschentz> KDesktop: 3.5.2
[10:33] <tschentz> i don't think so...
[10:33] <tschentz> this is dapper drake
[10:34] <tschentz> and kde 4 is not finished yet as far as i know
[10:35] <tschentz> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software, which is planned to be released in early 2007.  from :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE4
[10:37] <pussfeller> i think skipkack means a context menu
[10:37] <pussfeller> you can always put a link to application on yer desktop
[10:38] <pussfeller> to konsole, and then in konqueror, when you are in a dir, you go to toos, show terminal emulator, and one pops up
[10:38] <XVampireX> Woot, I just realized how much awesome KDE4 will be
[10:38] <colo> or just hit F4
[10:38] <StFS> hi... I'm having problems with gamin (file monitoring thingy) eating up a lot of CPU... anyone else been through this? Is there a solution?
[10:38] <colo> fiwth default keybinds
[10:39] <Hoobly> anyone know how to check mail from exchange server with Evolution?
[10:41] <colo> there's a special connector for that purpose, i believe
[10:43] <tschentz> in ubuntu it is already installed... you can use the account assistant... there you have the option to choose exchange server,....
[10:44] <Hoobly> colo: is it the evolution-exchange package in adept?  If so, I have that installed
[10:44] <Hoobly> no error messages, but when configuring an account in Evolution for use with the Exchange server, I cannot proceed after entering the username
[10:45] <colo> dunno, i'm 100% proprietary-software-free ;)
[10:45] <XVampireX> It seems KDE4 will have its own IM program
[10:45] <Nirvana> what's the name?
[10:45] <XVampireX> no idea
[10:45] <pussfeller> kopete is the "official" im client i thot
[10:46] <XVampireX> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/01/12/kde4.html?page=1
[10:46] <pussfeller> scheduled for greater integration into the rest
[10:46] <ubuntu> Hello, noob here :( I just tried Kunbutu for the first time LiveDVD not bad so far. I was wondering how can I get mIRC to work? I heard somethign called WINE?
[10:46] <XVampireX> "John Littler: The new features I remember include a bucketload of bug fixes, a universal messaging client, and a big cleanup of the GUI. Are there more things that you should mention"
[10:46] <_marc> hi
[10:46] <Nirvana> ubuntu: you don't need mIRC, this is IRC, and just like it
[10:46] <_marc> i need to "exit x"
[10:47] <pyluyten> pussfeller - some good linux irc client exist !
[10:47] <Darkness123> Cab I use mIRC Scripts ?
[10:47] <_marc> to install nvidia's drivers
[10:47] <Darkness123> or SysReset ?
[10:47] <XVampireX> Darkness123: Why don't you rather use xchat or konversation?
[10:47] <_marc> ctrl - alt -backspace just restarts x rather than exit it
[10:47] <_marc> to commandline
[10:47] <Nirvana> _marc: ctrl alt backspace
[10:47] <_marc> any idea?
[10:47] <_marc> Nirvana: it wont exit it, it'll just restart it
[10:47] <Darkness123> I think my PC is going faster.... ?
[10:48] <XVampireX> marc: You can't exit X
[10:48] <_marc> but i have to
[10:48] <Nirvana> _marc: why do you need to exit? vid drivers?
[10:48] <pussfeller> ubuntu, once wine is set up, you should just ckick on the mirc.exe if its going to work without a bunch of tweaking which is beyond my power to explain at this point
[10:48] <_marc> in order to install the nvidia drivers
[10:48] <_marc> for the gpu
[10:48] <XVampireX> You need ctrl alt backspace
[10:48] <Darkness123> Since I am on LiveDVD if I make shortcuts on the Desktop will it remember for the next time ?
[10:48] <pussfeller> sudo /etc/init.d/kde restart
[10:48] <_marc> ctrl-alt-backspace wont exit it, it'll just restart it
[10:48] <XVampireX> There's no such thing as exiting exiting x
[10:48] <pussfeller> err, kdm restart
[10:49] <XVampireX> If you don't know what X is...
[10:49] <Nirvana> _marc: IIRC you just go to Ctrl + Alt + F1, login, type what the guide says to, and then restart X
[10:49] <pussfeller> exiting x wont stop kdm
[10:49] <_marc> what would ctrl-alt-f1 do
[10:49] <Nirvana> restart it, after you type what the guide says of course
[10:49] <Nirvana> it = Xorg
[10:49] <pussfeller> and kdm needs to be stoped to reread the new xorg.conf adnd use new drivers
[10:49] <_marc> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[10:50] <XVampireX> Exiting X would mean restarting it
[10:50] <pussfeller> no, it would go back to kdm login screen :)
[10:50] <Darkness123> Cool the taskbar goes :D
[10:50] <XVampireX> Which is what ctrl alt backspace does
[10:50] <iNiku> XVampireX: of course you can "exit X", that is, to stop it from running
[10:50] <Darkness123> Main reason I wanna try Linux is I read its good and Vista I do not have the money to buy new MB and CPU and AGP
[10:50] <_marc> XVampireX: restarts kde/x/whatever
[10:50] <iNiku> _marc: press ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console, then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:50] <_marc> so any idea?
[10:51] <iNiku> or gdm, if you're using gnome
[10:51] <_marc> kde, kubutu that is
[10:51] <XVampireX> marc I know that it restarts X
[10:51] <_marc> iNiku: and after im done, how would i bring it all up?
[10:51] <iNiku> _marc: /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:51] <iNiku> or gdm for gnome
[10:51] <_marc> aight
[10:51] <_marc> thanks alot
[10:51] <iNiku> XVampireX: it's the display manager (kdm or gdm) that restarts X when it dies
[10:52] <pussfeller> don't worry, noones else is going to buy vista either
[10:52] <XVampireX> I know
[10:52] <XVampireX> display manager lies on top of X
[10:52] <XVampireX> So if you stop X, you stop the KDM
[10:52] <iNiku> XVampireX: wrong, the display manager in fact starts up X
[10:52] <iNiku> and starts it up again if it dies.
[10:52] <XVampireX> Yeah right :P
[10:52] <pussfeller> heh, this is  a pointless arguement :)
[10:52] <iNiku> that's how it works.
[10:53] <XVampireX> Fine :P
[10:53] <iNiku> what's pointless is telling somebody they cannot "exit X"
[10:54] <Nirvana> my X is better than your X
[10:55] <XVampireX> my y is better than your y
[10:55] <pussfeller> my x is a hottie
[10:55] <lunitik> iNiku: actually... the display manager is just the graphical interface... the SCRIPT '/etc/inet.d/kdm' contains information to start and stop X ... X starts itself when its told by said script, ?DM starts itself when its told by said script
[10:55] <lunitik> iNiku: incase you really want to get technical
[10:56] <__marc__> sigh didnt go so well
[10:56] <lunitik> iNiku: other than the fact that /etc/inet.d/kdm is part of the 'kdm' package... it has very little to do with kdm... and is infact not even part of the upstream package
[10:56] <__marc__> gcc is missing ^_^
[10:57] <__marc__> bash: gcc: command not found
[10:57] <Nirvana> !gcc
[10:57] <ubotu> gcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:57] <__marc__> bash: cc: command not found
[10:57] <lunitik> __dennis: apt-get install built-essential
[10:57] <Darkness123> Can I install WINE if I am using LiveDVD ?
[10:57] <Nirvana> but, gcc isn't a command is it?
[10:57] <Nirvana> Darness123: yes
[10:57] <Nirvana> !wine
[10:57] <__marc__> its a c compiler
[10:57] <iNiku> lunitik: huh? /etC/init.d/kdm is an init script that's used to start kdm when the system boots up. I have no idea what /etc/inet.d/kdm might be.
[10:57] <lunitik> __marc__: apt-get install build-essential
[10:57] <Darkness123> !Wine
[10:57] <Nirvana> don't know if it works with caps
[10:57] <Nirvana> but it works lowercase
[10:58] <pyluyten> An internet doc said to 'export DISPLAY' with <IP_ADDRESS>:0 value. Has exporting display with such a value a sense ? i am not a technician : )
[10:58] <lunitik> iNiku: again trying to be technical... /etc/init.d/kdm is NOT part of upstream kdm... it is infact a Debian specific hack.
[10:59] <Nirvana> hence why debian rock
[10:59] <Nirvana> rocks^
[10:59] <iNiku> lunitik: I'm not sure what you're trying to say
[11:00] <iNiku> but the X server is in fact started by kdm
[11:00] <__marc__> lunitik: awesome, thanks
[11:00] <iNiku> or whatever display manager yo uuse
[11:00] <Darkness123> Cool it asked me to terminate a nonworking window. lol
[11:00] <iNiku>  /etc/init.d/kdm start gets run at boot time to start kdm
[11:00] <iNiku> and kdm will start the X server and will keep restarting it if it dies
[11:01] <colo> is there a quick way to hammer mp3-support into amarok on a live-system?
[11:01] <iNiku> so if you want to stop X from running, you need to stop the display manager from running.
[11:02] <Nirvana> colo: if you apt-get install xmms it's prolly quicker
[11:02] <colo> i'd like to test afew of amarok's preconfigured streams
[11:02] <Nirvana> oh
[11:02] <colo> but they seem to stream mp3 instead of vorbis
[11:02] <colo> except that video-game-ost one
[11:03] <Nirvana> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[11:03] <colo> but that's not the kind of stuff i'm in the mood for right now ;)
[11:03] <Nirvana> colo ^^
[11:03] <colo> i see, so it's in external repos
[11:03] <_marc_> argh
[11:04] <_marc_> me again ^_^
[11:04] <_marc_> i need the kernel's source files
[11:04] <Seantater> flight 7 is released, right?
[11:04] <Nirvana> !flight7
[11:04] <ubotu> it has been said that flight7 is available via http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[11:04] <_marc_> or at least thats what nvidia wants
[11:04] <Seantater> Nirvana: Thanks
[11:05] <_marc_> anyone?
[11:05] <Nirvana> _marc_: you do need kernel source files I think
[11:05] <Seantater> is there a Kubuntu variant of flight 7?
[11:05] <_marc_> Nirvana: how do i get them?
[11:06] <Nirvana> what type of computer do you have?
[11:06] <_marc_> as in processor? amd athlon64
[11:06] <_marc_> ive got a good one
[11:07] <Seantater> Nirvana: i386
[11:07] <_marc_> amd64 for me
[11:07] <Seantater> Nirvana: sorry -- you were not asking me..
[11:07] <_marc_> Seantater: ^_^
[11:08] <colo> xine-extracodecs did it :)
[11:08] <colo> fine
[11:08] <colo> let's listen to something other than my local collection
[11:08] <Nirvana> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[11:09] <Nirvana> _marc_: what type computer?
[11:09] <Nirvana> Seantater: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[11:09] <_marc_> Nirvana: as in what
[11:09] <Nirvana> i386, amd64, mac
[11:09] <_marc_> amd64
[11:09] <Nirvana> ok
[11:10] <Nirvana> good thing I know AMD64 like the back of my hand </sarcasm>
[11:10] <colo> i'm running flight7 for amd64 right now
[11:10] <colo> for about 2 days or so
[11:10] <_marc_> i guess im going to switch the hdds back
[11:10] <_marc_> and boot windows up
[11:10] <_marc_> lol
[11:10] <colo> without problems :)
[11:11] <Nirvana> _marc_: I found it!
[11:11] <_marc_> did you?
[11:11] <Nirvana> _marc_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:11] <Nirvana> I think
[11:12] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:12] <Nirvana> Kubuntu 6.06?
[11:13] <_marc_> 5.10 i believe
[11:13] <Nirvana> oh
[11:13] <Nirvana> one sec
[11:13] <KDEfanboy> is it possible to install Dapper on an existing partition and preserve the files already on there?
[11:14] <Seantater> KDEfanboy: no, but you can update instead..
[11:14] <Seantater> KDEfanboy: it will give you what you are looking for
[11:14] <Nirvana> _marc_: do you have extra repos enabled?
[11:14] <_marc_> an extra what?
[11:15] <KDEfanboy> Seantater: well I want to migrate from gentoo to kubuntu but keep user files.. maybe 5.10 can?
[11:16] <Nirvana> _marc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28enable%29%7C%28extra%29%7C%28repositories%29
[11:16] <Seantater> KDEfanboy: I'm afraid you can't do that except backing up files and then putting them back
[11:16] <Nirvana> _marc_: specific part of the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a
[11:17] <_marc_> i understand nothing there
[11:17] <_marc_> i dont even have the menus it refers to
[11:18] <Nirvana> did you read the kubuntu part? with adept?
[11:18] <_marc_> it cannot find adept
[11:18] <Nirvana> it should be in the K menu under system
[11:18] <_marc_> kynaptic is the closest name
[11:18] <Darkness123> How do you open Folders?
[11:19] <Nirvana> open the konsole and type apt-get install adept
[11:19] <Nirvana> Darkness123: click on them
[11:19] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package adept
[11:19] <Darkness123> Oh Konqurer opens them.
[11:20] <Nirvana> _marc_: follow this guide then: http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php scroll down to  Breezy (5.10)
[11:22] <Darkness123> Isn't there a website for newbies ?
[11:24] <OdyX> Darkness123: install desktop-guide
[11:24] <_marc_> Nirvana: done, im after the apt-get update part
[11:24] <Nirvana> Darkness123: ubuntuforums.org, kubuntuforums.net, http://kudos.berlios.de/, desktop-guide, kubuntu-docs
[11:25] <Nirvana> _marc_: after apt-get update, you apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-k7 and hope to god I spelt restricted right
[11:25] <_marc_> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-k7
[11:25] <_marc_> im out of here
[11:25] <_marc_> gonna hook the windows hdd back
[11:25] <Nirvana> lol
[11:25] <Nirvana> OK then
[11:25] <_marc_> and retry this later
[11:25] <_marc_> thanks alot for your time man
[11:26] <Nirvana> no problem
[11:26] <Nirvana> in that case
[11:28] <Pupeno> Hello.
[11:28] <Pupeno> KSCD shows the CDDB information but audiocd stopped doing so, any ideas what might be the problem ?
[11:28] <Pupeno> I've tried various CDs with no luck.
[11:30] <pyluyten> Did Kscd merged to "freedb" ?
[11:30] <Pupeno> pyluyten: when I start kscd it says loading freedb, but I think I know what's the problem.
[11:30] <Pupeno> Thank you.
[11:31] <Pupeno> s/loading/quering/
[11:32] <Nirvana> scratch the eating dinner part
[11:32] <zorgluuu> q. im trying to install the flash player plugin, where should i put it to get konqueror to find it ?
[11:34] <Nirvana> you can put it anywhere, as long as you add that folder to the netscape plugin section of Konqueror settings
[11:34] <dinofly> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:35] <evert> hello all , i just installed kubuntu dapper drake on my pc ... but when i wanna install software (with adept) i get an error
[11:36] <evert> when starting adept : teh apt database could not be openeld ! this may be caused by incorrect apt configuration or some simular problem.
[11:36] <evert> how can i solve this pls ?
[11:36] <evert> it's a clean install , just finished 2 minutes ago
[11:36] <Nirvana> which version?
[11:36] <Nirvana> if dapper
[11:36] <evert> 6.06 beta 2
[11:36] <Nirvana> then upgrade
[11:36] <Nirvana> yeah
[11:36] <Nirvana> known bug
[11:36] <evert> the upgrade ?
[11:36] <Nirvana> I got it too
[11:37] <evert> that's 250Mb
[11:37] <Nirvana> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:37] <Nirvana> evert: should jigdo'd your iso to flight 7 :P
[11:37] <Nirvana> actually
[11:38] <Nirvana> evert: just upgrade adept
[11:38] <evert_> ok
[11:39] <Nirvana> you can use aptitude to aid you in this if you need something better than a flat command line (though aptitude is a command line apt frontend)
[12:02] <nagyv> Hello! Anyone with experiences with irda and kubuntu? How could I download the images from my mobile phone? (No bluetooth.)