[06:48] <marcopolo> Guys , can you make apt show deb packages instead of snaps  ?
[06:49] <marcopolo> for an example if i do apt install chromium it doesnt see it , it only sees the snap version of chromium
 I'm experiencing an issue with the sound system on my laptop. I'm not sure if I may have accidentally disabled or activated certain services before. When I booted with the live USB installation ISO, the sound worked perfectly. However, on my installed desktop, I still have this problem: when no HDMI is connected, it can't recognize the speakers. But when an HDMI cable is connected, even considering the fact that the external monitor I'm
[14:18] <arraybolt3> mh_firouzjah: I can't see anything after "external monitor I'm" here on the IRC side. However, what you're dealing with might be a kernel issue, or it might be that you accidentally disabled Pipewire or Pulseaudio, or perhaps fiddled with JACK and something went wrong. Does any of that sound familiar?
[14:18] <arraybolt3> Also, what version of Kubuntu are you using? 22.04? 23.10?
[14:19] <diogenes_Vx15> mh_firouzjah, open pavucontrol and explore the options in there especially in Output Devices tab and Configuration tab.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Happy New Year to all
 ext. monitor doesn't have speakers so after connection laptop's speakers are in use. but now they work fine (re @mh_firouzjah: I'm experiencing an issue with the sound system on my laptop. I'm not sure if I may have accidentally disabled or activated certain services before. When I booted with the live USB installation ISO, the sound worked perfectly. However, on my installed desktop, I still have this problem: when no HDMI is connected,
 23.10 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> Also, what version of Kubuntu are you using? 22.04? 23.10?)
 it's using pipewire+wireplumber so no pavucontrol
 but i'd switched to paulseaudio and pavucontrol and still nothing helpful (re @IrcsomeBot: <diogenes_Vx15> mh_firouzjah, open pavucontrol and explore the options in there especially in Output Devices tab and Configuration tab.)
 it's not something that could be distinguished using pavucontrol nor plasma settings > sounds settings
 the problem is not something that could be discovered using pavucontrol nor plasma settings > sounds settings
 since in both case there is a message indicating that speakers are not found
 but after connecting HDMI cable and restarting the paulseaudio.service or pipewire.service it will work (re @mh_firouzjah: the problem is not something that could be discovered using pavucontrol nor plasma settings > sounds settings)
 since in both case there is a message indicating that speakers are not found > as a result of this, the option to select sound output to speakers is locked and can't be selected
 but after connecting HDMI cable and restarting the paulseaudio.service or pipewire.service it will work (re @mh_firouzjah: the problem is not something that could be discovered using pavucontrol nor plasma settings > sounds settings)
 since in both case there is a message indicating that speakers are not found > as a result of this, the option to select sound output to speakers is locked and can't be selected/ even i select (in some case) it doesn't work
 but after connecting HDMI cable and restarting the paulseaudio.service or pipewire.service it will work (re @mh_firouzjah: the problem is not something that could be discovered using pavucontrol nor plasma settings > sounds settings)


[09:06] <fabbione> ;)
[09:07] <fabbione> we are about to boot -11
[09:07] <fabbione> in theory this hack should fix the problem
[09:08] <fabbione> potential fix
[09:09] <braddr> nice
[09:26] <braddr> been a while since we've actually seen a stacktrace from there.
[09:27] <fabbione> i saw it yesterday
[09:27] <braddr> ok
[09:34] <fabbione> that pontential fix didn't fix shit
[09:35] <braddr> at least not this problem..
[09:45] <fabbione> no more tests for today...
[09:46] <braddr> okey
[09:46] <fabbione> i think we will release with a ReleaseNote. If you see this boot with mem=1024 for now
[09:47] <fabbione> it's not critical and it's an easy workaround
[09:47] <braddr> or even less loss of memory, mem=<maxmem>-128M or something?
[09:48] <fabbione> at the installer time makes no differenve
[09:48] <fabbione> difference even
[09:48] <braddr> good point
[09:48] <fabbione> once you reboot, you will have all the mem with -smp kernel that is known to work
[09:48] <braddr> and for some reason it doesn't affect smp post-bootup.
[09:48] <fabbione> exactly


[13:12] <balloons> hey hye
[14:01] <balloons> everyone ready?
[14:02] <balloons> #startmeeting ubuntu qa community
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[14:02] <balloons> can i get a roll call on this fine spring (or fall) day?
[14:04] <astraljava> o/
[14:04]  * astraljava is on a very bad connection
[14:05] <balloons> ahh
[14:06] <astraljava> balloons: Is it okay if I just present our issues now, and then get on my way?
[14:06] <balloons> astraljava, yes, no problem
[14:06] <balloons> :-)
[14:06] <astraljava> Thanks!
[14:06] <astraljava> Studio is fine, images -> final.
[14:07] <astraljava> Xubuntu is fine except Wubi, which is a problem. I noticed that jibel has tested it on Alpha-2.
[14:07] <astraljava> But otherwise we might not have support for it.
[14:08] <astraljava> So we have to discuss about it later tonight.
[14:08] <astraljava> That's about it.
[14:08] <astraljava> ..
[14:08] <balloons> astraljava, yes someone was asking about getting xubuntu wubi testing..
[14:08] <balloons> but they asked so late yesterday
[14:08] <astraljava> It was me. :)
[14:08] <balloons> lol -- I see to remember a different username
[14:09] <balloons> cool
[14:09] <astraljava> balloons: Can you ask jibel if he has time for it? Otherwise I'm afraid we cannot guarantee it's quality.
[14:10] <astraljava> But that's it. Any questions?
[14:10] <balloons> astraljava, I can try and get a wubi tester on it.. i don't think we'll find an issue with it tho tbh
[14:10] <balloons> wubi has been suprisingly good since the couple fixes last week
[14:11] <astraljava> Okay, so I'll refer to that when skaet asks.
[14:11] <balloons> yes, you should :-) but we'll shoot for a result anyway
[14:11] <astraljava> It'd be good.
[14:11] <balloons> well, since we're sticking with short and sweet, jibel just announced we had a record-breaking iso testing period
[14:11] <astraljava> Heheh. :) Cool.
[14:12] <balloons> as of now, we stand at 108 contributors, and 1187 results!
[14:12] <astraljava> w0w!
[14:12] <astraljava> Right, I'm off. Thanks Nick! Talk to you later tonight.
[14:12] <balloons> kk :-) cheers mate
[14:14] <balloons> anyone else about?
[14:14] <kanliot> sorry i was late
[14:14] <kanliot> i can report that there's nothing causing a problem in lubuntu
[14:15] <balloons> thinking thru the flavors quickly.. kubuntu is looking good, edubuntu also looking good, ubuntu studio is good.. xubuntu needs wubi testing
[14:15] <balloons> and kanliot reports lubuntu is good :-)
[14:15] <balloons> awesome!
[14:15] <ScottK> balloons: Still need i386 wubi on Kubuntu.
[14:15] <Riddell> actually kubuntu has a problem in the dist upgrade notificaiton
[14:15] <balloons> ScottK, I got that for you this morning..
[14:15] <Riddell> I'll need testers for the fix there
[14:15] <Riddell> when it's ready
[14:15] <balloons> Riddell, can you link?
[14:15] <ScottK> balloons: He's got to write the code first.
[14:16] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2012-April/006024.html
[14:16] <balloons> Well, I mean the i386 is going on right now as we speak.. let's see
[14:17] <ScottK> Excellent.
[14:17] <ScottK> We could also use help with amd64+mac images.
[14:17] <ScottK> The guy that was testing them over the weekend seems to have vanished.
[14:17] <balloons> On kubuntu?
[14:17] <ScottK> Yes
[14:17] <balloons> let me check the list
[14:17] <ScottK> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds/15941/testcases
[14:18] <ScottK> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds/16004/testcases
[14:20] <balloons> hmm..
[14:20] <balloons> who was testing them ScottK ?
[14:21] <ScottK> shadeslayer.
[14:21] <ScottK> He seems to have got lost in the wilds of India the last few days though.
[14:21] <balloons> lol
[14:22] <balloons> well, I'll try a 2 for 1 deal.. are th eamd+64 isos going to be rebuilt when you make the dist-upgrade fix?
[14:23] <balloons> basically, I can put folks on alert to test as soon as the change drops.. I don't want to make them test twice if we know a respin is coming :-)
[14:23] <kanliot> balloons is that dist-upgrade notification issue .... what is the bug #  (should i test for lubuntu?)
[14:24] <balloons> kanliot, sounds like it's just for kde.. Looks like a muon bug
[14:24] <kanliot> ty
[14:25] <balloons> np
[14:25] <balloons> ok, so in summary, release is looking good for tomorrow. Xubuntu would like wubi testing, kubuntu waiting on wubi results, and would like amd64+mac help..
[14:25] <balloons> Anyone else? Any status updates or questions/concerns?
[14:27] <Riddell> balloons: kubuntu will need oneiric testing
[14:27] <Riddell> for upgrade notifications
[14:29] <balloons> ok, Riddell I'll stay in #ubuntu-release.. do let me know when the changes are live
[14:30] <balloons> I think that's all then folks.. Crunch time! Let's have a good release. And don't forget to celebrate!
[14:30] <balloons> #endmeeting
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[19:02] <highvoltage> hi, anyone around for an Edubuntu meeting?
[19:02]  * stgraber waves
[19:03] <highvoltage> stgraber: the testing for the new amd64 image is under way
[19:03] <highvoltage> stgraber: I should be able to post the results with the test cases you mentioned in 30-40 minutes
[19:03] <mgariepy> i'm here;)
[19:04]  * jussi is vaguely observing
[19:04] <stgraber> cool, I just started running an Edubuntu amd64 test here too
[19:04] <stgraber> so we should have enough coverage for me to sign off that build and be back to ready-to-release
[19:05] <stgraber> I did some shuffling around of services on my server for the release and I'm mirroring edubuntu + kubuntu, I'll also be seeding the Edubuntu images from another box to ensure we don't get into the same bandwidth issues as last year
[19:05] <stgraber> and weblive is currently busy rebuilding, hoping to have it all working nicely at some point tonight
[19:06] <highvoltage> I'll seed a little from home and work too, I guess having another few mbps of seeding would help for the first few hours
[19:06] <highvoltage> I'd like to start discussing ideas for 12.10 as well as soon as 12.04 is out. I'll post some things I've been thinking about to the mailing list
[19:07] <highvoltage> (perhaps that will motivate others to do so too :) )
[19:08] <highvoltage> stgraber: hmm, I seem hit by the bug where when I choose eth0 in ltsp-live, it jumps back to eth1
[19:08] <stgraber> highvoltage: make sure not to seed for more than 40GB from home or we'll hit the monthly quota...
[19:09] <highvoltage> stgraber: oh right, I guess I won't do that then :)
[19:10] <stgraber> running a Chinese Edubuntu OEM install with LTSP, should have the results in 30 min
[19:10] <highvoltage> my french session is completely messed up... I'll retry on physical hardware...
[19:11] <stgraber> highvoltage: ok :)
[19:11] <stgraber> highvoltage: the chinese live session looks good here
[19:11] <stgraber> testing LTSP live quickly
[19:11] <stgraber> can't reproduce your drop-down bug
[19:13] <highvoltage> well, I guess we'll just continue testing for now, anything else for edubuntu meeting or shall we go back to #edubuntu?
[19:13] <highvoltage> ok then, adjourned! :)
[20:00] <MrChrisDruif> gilir; meeting?
[20:01] <gilir> yes yes :)
[20:01] <gilir> #startmeeting Lubuntu Team Meeting
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[20:02] <gilir> hi :)
[20:02] <kanliot> sup
[20:02] <Yorvyk> o/
[20:02] <gilir> Agenda is still at the same place : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
[20:03] <MrChrisDruif> \o
[20:03] <gilir> and this week, special focus on the last stuff to do before the release
[20:03] <cariboo907> join #U+1
[20:04] <gilir> no action from the last meeting
[20:04] <gilir> let's move to the first topic
[20:05] <gilir> #topic kanliot - Weekly report - Update from QA meeting and team
[20:05] <kanliot> hi
[20:05] <kanliot> we still should be testing
[20:05] <kanliot> also balloons asked for more testers for amd64 mac
[20:05] <kanliot> and also wubi testers
[20:05] <kanliot> end of report
[20:06] <kanliot> to clarify: we still shoudl be testing means they are still releaseing ISOs
[20:06] <gilir> thanks kanliot, if the tests are specific to lubuntu or more generic ?
[20:06] <kanliot> i donno
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> I think balloons requested for Ubuntu amd64 and wubi
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> But wubi wasn't well tested for Lubuntu as well
[20:08] <kanliot> thanks chrisw
[20:08] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, as far as I know, it was tested at least once
[20:08] <MrChrisDruif> gilir; true, Lance did
[20:08] <gilir> well, it's better than nothing :)
[20:08] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed
[20:09] <gilir> ok, philiw also told me ISOs was good to go
[20:10] <gilir> unless we discover a big problem in the last tests, it should be ok now
[20:10] <gilir> kanliot, let me know if there is an emerengy tonight
[20:10] <kanliot> not going to disagree with you but they are still producing more ISOs
[20:11] <kanliot> k will do
[20:11] <gilir> ok, thanks kanliot, moving to next topic
[20:12] <gilir> #topic kanliot - Weekly report - Update from Comms team
[20:12] <kanliot> nothing to report
[20:12] <kanliot> we resolved some code of curious origin that ended up on the website
[20:12] <kanliot> that was all on the mailing list
[20:12] <kanliot> end of report
[20:13] <gilir> ok thanks kanliot
[20:13] <gilir> #topic gilir - Weekly report - Update from Devs teams
[20:14] <gilir> still preparing the work items for 12.10
[20:14] <gilir> it should be more active next week, after the release :)
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> It does?>
[20:15] <gilir> any questions ?
[20:16] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, I don't like to prepare stuff for the next release, when the previous one is still not out :)
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> True
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> ...for devs ;-)
[20:16] <gilir> :)
[20:17] <gilir> no more question, so moving to the next topic
[20:17] <gilir> #topic MrChrisDruif - Weekly report - Update from Docs team
[20:18] <MrChrisDruif> Wiki should be ready for release. Only need to comment out the 12.04 specific stuff to "release"
[20:18] <gilir> great ! :)
[20:19] <gilir> are people from the wiki will be available tomorrow to update the links ?
[20:19] <kanliot> what time will that be?
[20:20] <MrChrisDruif> I'm "available" till about noon
[20:20] <gilir> kanliot, it depends on the availability of the ISOs
[20:21] <kanliot> k
[20:21] <MrChrisDruif> And remember "everyone" can edit the wiki pages, it is almost only uncommenting lines
[20:21] <MrChrisDruif> Not release specific: I also want to add a big warning block above the header on [WIKI] for beginner to let them know more prominently that that is the team area and redirect them to [HELP]
[20:21] <MrChrisDruif> Any objections?
[20:22] <MrChrisDruif> According to the comms team it's not clear how to come to help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/HelpDocumentation so that is the reasoning behind it
[20:22] <Yorvyk> Don't understand why this is needed
[20:22] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, is the link to Documentation & Help is not enough ?
[20:23] <MrChrisDruif> According to the people who know how beginners think, it's not
[20:23] <MrChrisDruif> It's all readable in the wiki-docs mailing archive
[20:23] <MrChrisDruif> kanliot; you want to add to this?
[20:24] <kanliot> no need to
[20:24] <kanliot> good
[20:24] <MrChrisDruif> Nothing else to report.
[20:25] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, could you send me the list of pages to update at release time ?
[20:25] <MrChrisDruif> #action MrChrisDruif Send gilir list with pages to update for release
[20:25] <meetingology> ACTION: MrChrisDruif Send gilir list with pages to update for release
[20:26] <gilir> I'll try to be available tomorrow to do the annoucement and to edit of the pages
[20:26] <MrChrisDruif> Sure ^_^
[20:26] <gilir> thanks :)
[20:26] <balloons> hey guys :-)
[20:26] <gilir> but don't wait next week to do it ;)
[20:26] <MrChrisDruif> No? ^_^
[20:26] <kanliot> :)
[20:27] <MrChrisDruif> I'll have a spot to send it Sunday, alright with you gilir ?
[20:27] <MrChrisDruif> ;-)
[20:27] <gilir> don't play with my actual zen attitude ;)
[20:28] <gilir> any questions for the documentation ?
[20:29] <gilir> ok thanks MrChrisDruif :)
[20:29] <MrChrisDruif> Well the usual about known bugs and which should be on the release notes? Are there workarounds that should be on FAQ?
[20:29] <gilir> it's next topic ;)
[20:29] <MrChrisDruif> I know
[20:29] <gilir> #topic Yorvyk - Decide which problems (if any) should be in Known Issues section of Release Notes
[20:30] <gilir> I already added the bug about gnome-mplayer and lxkeymap
[20:31] <gilir> Yorvyk, do you have other bugs in mind ?
[20:31] <Yorvyk> Where are the release notes?  I can't find them now
[20:31] <gilir> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[20:32] <gilir> anyone have comments about them ?
[20:33] <Yorvyk> Isn't the 64 bit aptitude problem resolved
[20:33] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, I started editing them...then my connection timed-out again. I'll do it again later tonight
[20:34] <gilir> Yorvyk, I think the common release notes section is not updated yet
[20:34] <tumbleweed> Yorvyk: AFAIK it's better, but my no means perfect
[20:34] <Yorvyk> OK
[20:34] <Yorvyk> That was the only one that I'd seen any change on
[20:35] <Yorvyk> Everything else looks OK
[20:37] <gilir> MrChrisDruif, what do you want to add ?
[20:37] <MrChrisDruif> Just rewording some stuff, nothing to add
[20:37] <gilir> ok
[20:38] <gilir> if nobody have comments, we can remove the "TBA" items and keep it like this
[20:38] <gilir> except for corrections of style / typo / bad english ... :)
[20:39] <gilir> #topic Any Other Business
[20:40] <gilir> anything to add ?
[20:41] <Yorvyk> Lets hope everything goes smoothly tomorrow :)
[20:41] <gilir> ok, thanks, let's get some sleep before tomorrow :)
[20:41] <gilir> Yorvyk, yes :)
[20:41] <gilir> #endmeeting
[20:41] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Apr 25 20:41:47 2012 UTC.
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[20:42] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks gilir ^_^
[20:42] <Yorvyk> Are we continuing these meetings or having time of over UDS
[20:43] <gilir> Yorvyk, I'll prefer to stop them untill UDS
[20:43] <gilir> Yorvyk, maybe you can ask on the mailing list ?
[20:43] <Yorvyk> OK
[20:44] <gilir> thanks :)
[20:44] <Yorvyk> OK bye all!
[22:47] <s-fox> 9 minutes until the forum council meeting
[22:57] <s-fox> ping coffeecat cariboo907 Iowan oldos2er
[22:58] <Iowan> o/
[22:58] <coffeecat> o/
[22:58] <oldos2er> yo
[22:58] <s-fox> jacob moergaes
[22:58] <moergaes> yo-yo
[22:58] <s-fox> :)
[22:58] <jacob> oi
[22:58] <cariboo907> I'm here, had to go refill my coffee cup
[22:59] <s-fox> i am giving bodhi a few minutes, if he doesn't show in the next few minutes i am going to start the meeting without him
[23:00] <Iowan> I think I have login messed up again, but this jaunty machine is due upgrade anyway...
[23:01] <jacob> jaunty? is that not EOL?
[23:01] <s-fox> And bodhi_zazen makes 6 FC members :)
[23:01] <bodhi_zazen> meeting start yet ?
[23:01] <Iowan> that's why it's due upgrade
[23:01] <s-fox> No, i was giving you a minute
[23:01] <s-fox> lol
[23:01] <s-fox> cariboo907 are you back from coffee?
[23:01] <cariboo907> yup
[23:02] <s-fox> Okay, show time
[23:02] <s-fox> #startmeeting
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[23:02] <bodhi_zazen> OK, anyone want to drive ?
[23:02] <Iowan> I
[23:02] <s-fox> [TOPIC] FC meeting
[23:02] <bodhi_zazen> [link]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[23:03] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to make a few opening comments if I may ,promise they will be short =)
[23:03] <s-fox> Okay bodhi_zazen, go
[23:03] <bodhi_zazen> First, thank you all for coming
[23:03] <bodhi_zazen> we are trying to get input from across the community
[23:04] <bodhi_zazen> during the month, please use FH&F , #ubuntuforums, etc to discuss issues with staff / FC
[23:04] <bodhi_zazen> these meeting are (hopefully) for decisions, with minimal discussion, discussion should have already taken place
[23:05] <bodhi_zazen>  /end
[23:05] <s-fox> Well said and very good point made.
[23:05] <s-fox> Okay, first item on the agenda...
[23:06] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Archiving forums
[23:06]  * bodhi_zazen hides
[23:06] <bodhi_zazen> I think we forgot to discuss this topic
[23:06] <s-fox> I know ;)
[23:06] <jacob> are this and the second topic the same?
[23:06] <bodhi_zazen> We should make a proposal to the community, set some guidelines
[23:06] <bodhi_zazen> no jacob
[23:06] <s-fox> But the idea to archive out of date information is solid.
[23:07] <s-fox> I agree on getting input from the wider community, just like we did for the tutorials
[23:07] <bodhi_zazen> I suggest we make a concerted effort to discuss the topic over the next month
[23:07] <s-fox> That sounds reasonable to me.
[23:08] <s-fox> [VOTE] Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community
[23:08] <meetingology> Please vote on: Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community
[23:08] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[23:08] <bodhi_zazen> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from bodhi_zazen
[23:08] <cariboo907> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[23:08] <s-fox> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
[23:08] <coffeecat> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[23:08] <Iowan> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[23:08] <jacob> +1
[23:08] <meetingology> +1 received from jacob
[23:08] <s-fox> [ENDVOTE]
[23:08] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Make concerted effort to discuss archiving out of date information with wider community
[23:08] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:08] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:09] <s-fox> Bad jacob
[23:09] <s-fox> ;)
[23:09] <jacob> :D
[23:09] <s-fox> Okay, next item
[23:09] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Close tutorial and tips and move to wiki
[23:09] <bodhi_zazen> IMO closing T& T has gone fantastic
[23:10] <s-fox> This appears to have started and the ball is rolling
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> I think there have been some (appropriate) concerns
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> but ...
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> we have connected people from forums to wiki and have interest from askubuntu
[23:10] <s-fox> What are the main concerns ?
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> pixie has done outstanding work
[23:10] <bodhi_zazen> people do not like change ;)
[23:10] <s-fox> forestpiskie has been amazing
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> we need to encourage these efforts, and more important
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> engage the community to use and contribute to the wiki
[23:11] <jacob> I think the only real concern was the migration of tutorials, which seems to be going along smoothly
[23:11] <s-fox> I seem to recall some sort of script helping with the markup
[23:11] <bodhi_zazen> There was the concern if we closed the T&T, no one would contribute to wiki, and we would loose a valuable community asset
[23:12] <bodhi_zazen> but, honestly, group effort on documentation is easier and it did not take long for the advantages to become obvious
[23:12] <bodhi_zazen> I encourage all staff to encourage wiki as much as possible
[23:12] <jacob> I think the problem was the wiki was not very well advertised on the forums. if a link for T&T is made to the forums somehow, i think it'll be less of an issue.
[23:12] <s-fox> By the looks of things it has evolved, and T&T section has been used for supporting specific wiki pages
[23:12] <jacob> s/forums/wiki/
[23:12] <bodhi_zazen> If people complain the page is out of date -> help encourage the community to maintain
[23:12] <bodhi_zazen> +1 Jac
[23:13] <bodhi_zazen> that is the plan s-fox , wiki is for documentation , T&T is to discuss documentation
[23:13] <cariboo907> there is an editor for editing wiki pages in the repositories called editmoin
[23:13] <bodhi_zazen> should we add foo or bar to rootsudo ?
[23:13] <s-fox> Okay, I am not really sure anything to vote on here. But well done to all and lets continue to ease the transtition
[23:13] <bodhi_zazen> discussion -> change
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> no vote needed, just an update
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> and ask staff to promote the effort
[23:14] <s-fox> [ACTION] Staff to promote wiki effort
[23:14] <meetingology> ACTION: Staff to promote wiki effort
[23:14] <s-fox> :)
[23:14] <bodhi_zazen> If we get 10 people to edit 1 wiki page / month -> wiki will improve
[23:15] <bodhi_zazen> Needs to be a sustained effort, not a burn out fast effort
[23:15] <s-fox> Yes agreed
[23:15] <s-fox> Lets move on
[23:15] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Add new staff
[23:15] <bodhi_zazen> OK, I'll say it
[23:15] <bodhi_zazen> I think we should add 2-4 staff
[23:16] <bodhi_zazen> I would like to try some sort of volunteer -> short list -> vote
[23:16] <s-fox> I think we are coping, but we could do we a few more staffers. With a focus on asia / oz timezones
[23:16] <bodhi_zazen> coping, yes, but too closed, IMO
[23:16] <cariboo907> even western north america, as at times I'm the only there
[23:16] <s-fox> Anyone got any comments ?
[23:17] <bodhi_zazen> we need to engage the community, not just "cope"
[23:17] <Iowan> How much is need, versus rewarding active participants?
[23:17] <oldos2er> bodhi_zazen: can you explain "too closed"?
[23:17] <cariboo907> I really don't like the idea of volunteers
[23:18] <bodhi_zazen> The staff is viewed as too closed, a select group selected by favoritism or cronyism
[23:18] <oldos2er> bodhi_zazen: thank you
[23:18] <bodhi_zazen> people come and go, staff fall inactive, we need to train the next group
[23:18] <jacob> i'm not sure about volunteers either, but it might be worth a try. an experiment.
[23:18] <coffeecat> Volunteering was discussed in SCC. There were several objections.
[23:18] <bodhi_zazen> Post criteria -> ask UFM to volunteer or nominate other UFM -> review candiates -> UFM vote
[23:19] <bodhi_zazen> I think the major objection was that volunteers would not be reviewed
[23:19] <s-fox> OMG - The entire forum council is here
[23:19] <jacob> was the criteria of requiring an active ubuntu membership to be one of them?
[23:19] <s-fox> Hey overdrank
[23:19] <cariboo907> I could see UFM's nominate members for staff positions
[23:19] <s-fox> oh wait, no ai
[23:19] <overdrank> Hello all
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> nomination works for me
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> We need to "test the waters"
[23:20] <cariboo907> +1 to that
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> If we want to continue with the current staff selection, that is fine
[23:20] <s-fox> Okay, well we are only looking to add a couple new staff so it is a  good test to iron out the process
[23:20] <bodhi_zazen> We need to be able to say , we tried .... and had ... problem ;)
[23:21] <bodhi_zazen> Or , perhaps it will be better
[23:21] <jacob> it's worth a shot if nothing else
[23:21] <s-fox> [VOTE] Get UFM to nominate other UFM for staff poitions
[23:21] <meetingology> Please vote on: Get UFM to nominate other UFM for staff poitions
[23:21] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[23:21] <s-fox> positions
[23:21] <cariboo907> +1
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[23:21] <bodhi_zazen> and perhaps encourage UFM -> join u+1 or wiki team
[23:21] <s-fox>  positions
[23:21] <bodhi_zazen> +1
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from bodhi_zazen
[23:21] <s-fox> +1
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
[23:21] <Iowan> +1
[23:21] <overdrank> +1
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from Iowan
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from overdrank
[23:21] <s-fox> +1
[23:21] <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
[23:21] <s-fox> Gah
[23:21] <coffeecat> CLarification please.
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> I am suggesting we need to encourage the Ubuntu forums community to participate and contribute beyond the forums
[23:22] <s-fox> Silly tablet scroll issue  >.<
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> Forums is the entry, identify the good, the bad, and the ugly -> get them involved =)
[23:22] <bodhi_zazen> go coffeecat
[23:23] <coffeecat> I haven't voted yet. "UFM to nominate OTHER UFM"??
[23:23] <bodhi_zazen> Ubuntu Forums Members
[23:23] <cariboo907> Ubuntu forum members UFM
[23:23] <s-fox> coffeecat for staff positions
[23:23] <coffeecat> No - I know what UFM are . OTHER??
[23:23] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Forums/Membership
[23:24] <cariboo907> UFM nominate from the list of UFMs
[23:24] <Iowan> forum members nominate other forum members
[23:24] <s-fox> for staff positions
[23:24] <coffeecat> Yes - OTHER - not themselves?
[23:24] <s-fox> for staff positions
[23:24] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-forum-members
[23:24] <s-fox> no, not themselves
[23:24] <coffeecat> s-fox, thanks
[23:24] <bodhi_zazen> non ufm == ubuntu community
[23:24] <bodhi_zazen> ubuntu forums community
[23:25] <s-fox> coffeecat what is your vote ?
[23:25] <coffeecat> That's not what I was asking. s.fox has clarified.
[23:25] <Iowan> (abstain is allowed)
[23:25] <coffeecat> +1
[23:25] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[23:25] <s-fox> [ENDVOTE]
[23:25] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Get UFM to nominate other UFM for staff poitions
[23:25] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:25] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:25] <bodhi_zazen> obstain = 0
[23:25] <bodhi_zazen> +1/0/-1
[23:25] <s-fox> Okay, next item....
[23:26] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Forums upgrade
[23:26] <s-fox> I have an update on this
[23:26] <Iowan> yea!
[23:26] <jacob> :)
[23:26] <cariboo907> SSO is supposed to be fixed today
[23:26] <jacob> good to hear!
[23:27] <s-fox> castro informs me that the drives have been sourced but the SSO (which was fixed) is now broken again
[23:27] <s-fox> He was going to get back to me with an eta on the fix
[23:27] <s-fox> I know this is bad news, but it is still an update.
[23:27] <s-fox> [ACTION] Poke jcastro for news on the ETA on fix
[23:27] <meetingology> ACTION: Poke jcastro for news on the ETA on fix
[23:27] <s-fox> :)
[23:28] <s-fox> Any comments before moving on?
[23:29] <s-fox> I guess now
[23:29] <s-fox> not
[23:29] <s-fox> Next topic
[23:29] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Community building
[23:29] <bodhi_zazen> community building is going very well, but will never going to be on autopilot
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> As staff, you are leaders
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> I encourage you to get involved, there are tons of projects
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> you do not have to to them, just know they are there
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> Example - xubuntu could have used some help this release ...
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> U+1
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> wiki efforts
[23:30] <bodhi_zazen> join #ubuntuforums and #ubuntu-community-team
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> If you like forums, that is fine
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> be active in FH&F
[23:31] <cariboo907> I don't know if this comes under community building, but kansasnoob has been diagnosed with dementia
[23:31] <bodhi_zazen> be [s]active[/s] friendly in café and community games
[23:32] <bodhi_zazen> If you are too busy to get active, fine, the would fall under need more staff ;)
[23:32]  * jacob shuffles about
[23:32] <bodhi_zazen> Just be aware , we are reaching critical mass where we really can integrate with, and contribute to the Ubuntu community
[23:32] <s-fox> Starting  this month I am going to be writing a monthly news update kind of thing for the wider community to view on planet ubuntu
[23:33] <jacob> but agreed, and I know I sound hypocritical, but being active on staff is what helps keep a community going
[23:33] <bodhi_zazen> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/
[23:34] <bodhi_zazen> You do not need a google account to view the fridge calander
[23:34] <s-fox> bodhi_zazen ?
[23:34] <s-fox> Oh I see, never mind
[23:34] <bodhi_zazen> fridge calendar = major community discussions / meetings
[23:34]  * s-fox nods
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> Otherwise, see my update to the staff in scc
[23:35] <bodhi_zazen> Staff only : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1953124
[23:35] <s-fox> Oh, incase you missed it I added links to the forum irc channel in the quicklinks bar in the site menu
[23:36] <bodhi_zazen> I know, IRC is new, even frightening at first, but, after a while you will be in 10 channels
[23:36] <overdrank> lol
[23:36] <bodhi_zazen> http://wordofgreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/I-love-when-a-plan-comes-together.gif
[23:37] <Iowan> (I struggle with 2)
[23:37] <jacob> and idle in 9 ;)
[23:37] <cariboo907> I can manage 5 :)
[23:37] <bodhi_zazen> Don't worry, everyone is like that
[23:37] <bodhi_zazen> if you need help ask
[23:37] <s-fox> Really? :)
[23:37] <bodhi_zazen> If you irc via issri in screen 24/7 - seek a therapist
[23:37] <oldos2er> lol
[23:37] <bodhi_zazen> irssi , lol
[23:38] <Iowan> (via IRS?)
[23:38] <s-fox> No
[23:38] <jacob> bodhi_zazen: hah. i don't need a therapist, i use weechat.
[23:38] <s-fox> :)
[23:38] <Iowan> (IRC)
[23:38] <s-fox> I would like to move on....
[23:38] <oldos2er> bodhi_zazen: i resemble that remark  :)
[23:38]  * bodhi_zazen pleads the 5th
[23:38] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Team  Reports
[23:39] <s-fox> Hello ubottu
[23:39] <s-fox> uRock
[23:39]  * bodhi_zazen hides 10 fedora channels, gentoo, and linux-libre channels, not to mention #ubuntu-montana and a few -team, oh and lxc ...
[23:39] <uRock> hello s-fox
[23:39] <bodhi_zazen> Team reports are greatly appreciated by the community, and the look nice
[23:39] <bodhi_zazen> Only thing is, make sure they get on the community monthly report
[23:39] <Iowan> What did I mess up last month? ;)
[23:39] <s-fox> Well done to everyone for getting them back on track
[23:40] <s-fox> Few minor issues with the ones that had been done
[23:40] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/April2012
[23:40] <s-fox> 1 - Missing items that were discussed in the meetings
[23:40] <bodhi_zazen> We should be on the community team report automatically
[23:41] <bodhi_zazen> We are right under the Community Council
[23:41] <s-fox> 2 - Naming convention is very important, other pages link to CURRENT MONTH
[23:41] <s-fox> ^ bodhi_zazen
[23:41] <Iowan> :( Thought I verified that it was there...
[23:41] <bodhi_zazen> It's OK Iowan , this is why I am trying to get FC members up to speed =)
[23:42] <bodhi_zazen> Needs to be there by end of month
[23:42] <Iowan> my tranny keeps slipping...
[23:42] <s-fox> Iowan Don't be sad, something had to be said or nothing is learned =)
[23:42] <bodhi_zazen> I never can recall the syntax, so, add comments to the templates on what to do
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> Comments start with two ##
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> Who is willing to try the monthly report this month ?
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> Heck, two of you could learn together
[23:43] <s-fox> bodhi_zazen i am going to do division of labour at the end
[23:43]  * cariboo907 will
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> OK, sorry s-fox
[23:44] <s-fox> np
[23:44] <bodhi_zazen> next topic ?
[23:44] <s-fox> yep
[23:44] <bodhi_zazen> Leave the agenda in place, agenda items = bullet points for team report
[23:44] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Firefox / Ubiquity forum links
[23:45] <s-fox> I have an update on ubiquity side of things
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> This one is short, if you want them fixed, file a bug report on LP with code
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> we missed 12.04, but if we submit decent code it will be considered for 12.10
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> then accept the decision of the community who reviews the request
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> No more WWIII
[23:45] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[23:46] <s-fox> From what I gather the slide was rewritten and askubuntu was removed. That wasn't what we were after.  I have written a html slide and sent code to bodsda. i need to poke him again
[23:46] <bodhi_zazen> \o/
[23:46] <bodhi_zazen> You have about 3 months s-fox
[23:47] <s-fox> philinux was pushing the firefox bookmarks, and has posted a revised bookmark file
[23:47] <s-fox> I recall he was having issues getting the maintainers to look at the revised file, which is a bit sad.
[23:47] <bodhi_zazen> Aye, but after the 12.04 deadline, otherwise bookmarks looked good
[23:48] <uRock> Having UF in the bookmarks would be great
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> Probably need to submit for 12.10
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> we were late, and to be honest, they have better things to do with the impending release of 12.04
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> target 12.10 release
[23:48] <s-fox> Okay, that is me done on updates.  Perhaps we should ask philinux for an update
[23:48] <bodhi_zazen> PM ?
[23:49] <s-fox> Yep :)
[23:49] <bodhi_zazen> Any other comments ?
[23:49] <cariboo907> isn't he still off  fishing in Scotland?
[23:49] <s-fox> Oh yes, that is right
[23:50] <s-fox> [ACTION] PM philinux for firefox update
[23:50] <meetingology> ACTION: PM philinux for firefox update
[23:50] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Staff selection process
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> We discussed staff selection, entire staff feels candidates need to be reviewed, and when we have a short list of UFM -> UFM vote , honestly current staff is the largest single voting block, so it is not the compete loss of control we might fear
[23:51] <s-fox> I think we covered this earlier with adding new staff
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> I have no further comment
[23:51] <s-fox> Next topic?
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> It has been extensively discussed b4 now
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> action on this one s-fox
[23:51] <bodhi_zazen> vote ?
[23:51] <s-fox> We already voted on it
[23:52] <bodhi_zazen> OK with me , any objections ?
[23:52] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Forums team
[23:52] <bodhi_zazen> This one is not my topic (surprise)
[23:52] <s-fox> lol
[23:52] <bodhi_zazen> Anyone want to summarize this ?
[23:53] <bodhi_zazen> I think we should kill off the teams and use #ubuntuforums
[23:53] <jacob> I think we should nuke the entire collection of forums teams, honestly. Even if it means re-making some that are desired to keep.
[23:53] <bodhi_zazen> If enough people want to start some project, have them make a proposal
[23:53] <jacob> aye
[23:53] <jacob> other than that, my thoughts are in the thread
[23:53] <Iowan> probably the cleanest way
[23:53] <s-fox> Spring cleaning on old teams
[23:54] <jacob> i don't believe any of the six have seen any activity
[23:54] <s-fox> Anyone got anything to add before the vote?
[23:54] <jacob> also the forums attached to some of those
[23:54] <bodhi_zazen> Only one is "active", and I use the term loosly
[23:54] <Iowan> which one BT?
[23:54] <jacob> T&T has a T&TT forum that is dead
[23:54] <bodhi_zazen> yea
[23:54] <s-fox> The BT bodhi_zazend ?
[23:54] <jacob> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=348 & subforum it seems
[23:54] <bodhi_zazen> zmg, it's alive
[23:55] <s-fox> Okay, vote time
[23:55] <bodhi_zazen> I asked duanedesign to lead the BT
[23:55] <s-fox> [VOTE] Remove old unused forum teams
[23:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: Remove old unused forum teams
[23:55] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[23:55] <bodhi_zazen> It is sort of detached from forums at the moment
[23:55] <bodhi_zazen> +1
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 received from bodhi_zazen
[23:55] <s-fox> +1
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
[23:55] <overdrank> +1
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 received from overdrank
[23:55] <coffeecat> +1
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 received from coffeecat
[23:55] <cariboo907> +1
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 received from cariboo907
[23:55] <Iowan> +1 (all teams?)
[23:55] <meetingology> +1 (all teams?) received from Iowan
[23:56] <s-fox> lol
[23:56] <jacob> hah.
[23:56] <s-fox> just the unused ones Iowan
[23:56] <bodhi_zazen> same thing s-fox
[23:56] <s-fox> hah
[23:56] <overdrank> doh
[23:56] <s-fox> [ENDVOTE]
[23:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Remove old unused forum teams
[23:56] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[23:56] <meetingology> Motion carried
[23:56] <bodhi_zazen> \o/
[23:57] <Iowan> Do we need to post a "warning" that they are going?
[23:57] <s-fox> I think it would be polite to email the team leader if we close the subforums
[23:57] <overdrank> \~/
[23:57] <jacob> Iowan: i doubt anyone would notice without one for quite some time. :P
[23:57] <bodhi_zazen> No one reads the [s]warnings[/s] stickies Iowan
[23:57] <uRock> \m/
[23:57] <s-fox> Direct email bodhi_zazen
[23:58] <jacob> s-fox: there's only one subforum that I can see
[23:58] <overdrank> My apologies but I have to excuse myself
[23:58] <bodhi_zazen> I'm sorry , that email has been disconnected ...
[23:58] <jacob> well scraatch that
[23:58] <s-fox> See you overdrank
[23:58] <bodhi_zazen> thanks overd
[23:58] <s-fox> thanks for coming
[23:59] <s-fox> bodhi_zazen we should at least try
[23:59] <bodhi_zazen> next topic, coming up on the 60 minute mark
[23:59] <s-fox> bounce or not
[23:59] <bodhi_zazen> OK s-fox
[23:59] <s-fox> [TOPIC] Fix a meeting time
[23:59] <s-fox> I think the only issue with this time is AI :/
[23:59] <bodhi_zazen> This time seems to work, 3rd Wed of the month ?


[04:27] <antto> sakrecoer_ there is no mouse speed there, just acceleration and acceleration sensetivity
[04:27] <antto> and i hate acceleration ;]
[04:28] <antto> when i turn that down, it's okay, but very slow
[04:28] <antto> i want linear speed
[09:52] <sakrecoer_> antto: hmm... have you tried with high acceleration and liw acceleration sensivity?
[09:52] <sakrecoer_> low*
[15:47] <sakrecoer_> FYI submissions for ubuntu 16.04 Free Culture Showcase are open:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
[16:47] <erick_> Hi, I have a quick question. Do you think we would get PulseAudio 8.0 with Ubuntu Studio 16.04?
[18:44] <erick_> Hi, I have a quick question. Do you think we would get PulseAudio 8.0 with Ubuntu Studio 16.04?
[18:55] <erick_> Or it would remain at 4.0 as I am using Trusty
[19:00] <erick_> I also heard about this Bluez5, but I do not know what this is.
[19:28] <zequence_> erick_: pulseaudio will probably always be the latest stable release when a new Ubuntu comes out
[19:28] <zequence_> 16.04 currently has version 7.1
[19:28] <erick_> I see.
[19:28] <erick_> That is good news for me.
[19:30] <erick_> What is the best way to check for next release feature?
[19:30] <zequence_> Since pulseaudio 8 was just released, Ubuntu packagers have probably just not gotten around to getting it released yet
[19:30] <erick_> I see.
[19:31] <krytarik> That'd be Debian though.
[19:31] <zequence_> krytarik: Not in the case of pulseaudio
[19:31] <krytarik> Well, none of them anyway. :P
[19:32] <zequence_> Most of the packages that Ubuntu Studio distributes are actually packaged in Debian, and auto synced to Ubuntu until Feature Freeze, which is about two months before final release
[19:33] <zequence_> Anything that belongs to the "universe" repository pretty much, I believe
[19:33] <zequence_> But, Canonical maintains what is in "main". That includes things like the unity DE, the kernel, and a few other things
[19:33] <erick_> Anything else excited from Ubuntu Studio 16.04?
[19:35] <zequence_> Nothing mind blowing, that I can think of. We've synced with Xubuntu so that our desktop settings look very similar to Xubuntu's, except for theming
[19:35] <zequence_> I'm sure there are some nice new updates for packages
[19:36] <zequence_> ubuntustudio-controls is going to be an important tool for audio people, but mainly for those who are adding Ubuntu Studio to an existing Ubuntu installation
[19:36] <erick_> Thank you.
[20:26] <antto> sakrecoer_ yes.. no combination of acceleration gives an equivalent of "speed" that's why there are usually 3 sliders for these things, and i only see two there
[20:55] <sakrecoer_> antto: sorry... i don't know how to achieve exactly what you want. i like to have my mouse sensitive with little movement to reach end to end of screen, but i never reflected over linear speed.
[20:55] <sakrecoer_> try in #xubuntu maybe or in #ubuntu
[20:56] <sakrecoer_> antto: best of luck! feel free to share the sollution with us if/when you find it


[08:59] <emgent> please kill troll in #launchpad.
[11:29] <huats> hey everyone
[11:29] <huats> Pici: do you remember when we talked yesterday of the 24h period of ban ?
[12:58] <Pici> huats: yes.
[12:58] <huats> hello btw :)
[12:58] <Pici> Ay yes, hello.
[12:59] <huats> Pici: I am a bit surprised by it... since when you look at the ban list  from #ubuntu, lots are older than 24h :)
[13:00] <huats> I don't want to make fuss about it, but as it was explained yesterday, I though it was a rule that was commonly applyed
[13:01] <huats> We are working on a new system to enable this 24h ban, with exception... i don't want to have only a  24h ban for someone who says nazi salutation... and stuffs like that
[13:01] <Pici> huats: I generally go in about every week or so and clear out my old bans, 24 hours is not a rule, but I don't keep anything in there for a long period of time unless I feel like its needed.
[13:02] <huats> we had many case like that
[13:02] <huats> and for such case I am sure you understood that we won't let them come back...
[13:02] <Pici> Oh, I understand.
[13:03] <huats> but otherwise I agree that you need facts, more than "we are reaching the limit :)"
[13:03] <huats> and we will try to work your way... and to figure out in a few weeks :)
[13:03] <Pici> The idea is that you don't add a ban without the intention of reviewing them later
[13:04] <huats> I understand that
[13:04] <huats> (now I see your point)
[13:04] <huats> :)