[05:05] <tsoler> but yes
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, why?
[05:05] <nolimitsoya> whats confusing? :)
[05:05] <tsoler> wht is this access path?
[05:06] <deadhobo> LjL: I didn't see it :/ Under applications there is a nvidia settings thing though
[05:06] <reverie> Do I stick the firmware for my wifi card in /lib/firmware?
[05:06] <tiede> wasabi, molimitsoya, I cannot find the model corresponding to my keyboard, and there is no iso-8859-15 listed there neither...
[05:06] <brian98> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:06] <brian98> Is this for real?
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the partition is mounted in /media/windows, if thats what you are wondering :)
[05:06] <thor> fni: uppercase X
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> you can mount it somewhere else if you like
[05:06] <tsoler> which is a dir where to?
[05:06] <wasabi> tiede: On that same preferences pane, look at the Layout Options
[05:07] <jewbilee> brian89: yes
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> just make a folder, and edit you fstab, chaning the /media/windows to the full path of the new folder
[05:07] <fni> says "X: no processes killed"
[05:07] <LjL> deadhobo: type "grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf" -- does it output anything?
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that is the dir :)
[05:07] <thor> fni: are you using sudo?
[05:07] <deeps> im trying to setup an adhoc wifi network between my windows xp machine and my ubuntu laptop and it wont work :(
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the / in front means its in your root file system
[05:07] <tiede> I tried that too, but as far as I know, there is no option there that let you assign a function to a key not previously mapped.
[05:07] <deeps> the 2 computers connect to each other, but wont exchange any traffic
[05:07] <tsoler> i dont mind about the name , but where is that dir ? inside ntfs or ext?
[05:08] <C-O-L-T> !xgl
[05:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:08] <deadhobo> LjL: No
[05:08] <LjL> deadhobo: then you're still using the "nv" driver. either you've not selected "nvidia" in the dpkg-reconfigure, or... dunno
[05:08] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i dont get the question, but the drive filesystem is still ntfs. a mount tells you operatingsystem to display a device as if it where a file/directory
[05:08] <deadhobo> LjL: lol, probably an error on my part. I'll try configuring again
[05:09] <LjL> deadhobo: try just opening /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor and changing the line that reads Driver "nv" into Driver "nvidia", and then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X
[05:09] <fni> thor, yup. i typed "sudo killall X"
[05:09] <fni> it then asked for my pw
[05:09] <cached> i just put in a new video card and now x isn't booting up, what do i do?
[05:09] <tiede> nolimitsoya, where exactly will I find the iso-8859-15 you are talking about? and wasabi, the layout options are for specific keys (like the logo, alt and ctrl keys...)
[05:09] <thor> fni: right, any time you do something using sudo it will ask for your password before executing the command
[05:10] <tsoler> i also see cd rom and cd rom0 under media dir
[05:10] <hondje> cached: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the prompt should do the trick
[05:10] <tsoler> i only have one cd rom
[05:10] <cached> ok thanks
[05:10] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes, your cdrom is also mounted in /media. all extra devices in ubuntu are mounted in /media
[05:10] <fni> thor, yeah i know. i entered my password then it came back "X: no processes killed"
[05:11] <dfgas> how do i give permission to a user to mount smb shares?
[05:11] <thor> fni:...ok, then X isn't running. type 'startx'
[05:11] <thor> that should restart the X server
[05:11] <hondje> dfgas: are you using smbmount?
[05:11] <tsoler> so whats the second cdrom nolie?
[05:11] <fni> i've just restarted now. hopefully that will re-populate my screen res options
[05:11] <dfgas> hondje, it tells me that only root can do that
[05:11] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the same as the first one. :)
[05:12] <iratsu_> hmm if all devices are mounted in /media, what's the point of /mnt?
[05:12] <thor> fni: alt+ctrl+backspace will restart it also. I usually have to tap backspace a couple of times while holding alt+ctrl
[05:12] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, a user might have more than onte cdrom, there fore they numbered
[05:12] <thor> fni: the screen will flash...that will be X restarting
[05:12] <fnf> iratsu_: That's probably for backward compatibility.
[05:12] <gyoffi> guys, what package should I "dpkg-reconfigure" to set the nice value for the X server??
[05:12] <fni> thor, so what exactly is X? is it always running?
[05:12] <deadhobo> LjL: I edited it, but gedit won't let me save it... I'm assuming thats because I am not root?
[05:12] <tsoler> it sees it under ubuntu and under windows s u mean nolie, so it doubles it?
[05:12] <hondje> dfgas: You'll need to edit /etc/fstab
[05:13] <LjL> deadhobo: good assumption. use "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to edit it
[05:13] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no, but if you had two cdrom drives, the second would be mounted in cdrom1
[05:13] <alupius> how I save something in vi editor ?
[05:13] <Axord> !x > Axord
[05:13] <thor> fni: X is the graphic environment. Without it all you have is a 'dos prompt' (linux gods forgive me)
[05:13] <tiede> dmesg outputs "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xb4 on isa0060/serio0). Use 'setkeycodes e034 <keycode>' to make it known" what does that mean I have to do?
[05:13] <hondje> dfgas: with smbfs as the type, and with user (and probably umask=022) in the options field
[05:13] <boink> command prompt, it's called
[05:13] <lishak> hi:)is any flash8 package in repos?
[05:13] <fnf> alupius: 'vimtutor' should give you a hint, try ':w'
[05:14] <boink> hasn't flash 9 for linux come out?
[05:14] <tsoler> i only have one cd rom and it gets cdrom and cdrom0
[05:14] <Axord> flash 9 beta
[05:14] <alupius> fnf, and to quit ? ":q" ?
[05:14] <fnf> boink: AFAIK, it's still in beta.
[05:14] <boink> linux is beta too :P
[05:14] <fnf> alupius: yup.
[05:14] <lishak> boink:and flash8 dont y please know the name of the package?
[05:14] <fni> thor, oh. i always thought gnome or kde was the graphics environment
[05:14] <boink> lishak: I don't know if there is a package
[05:14] <boink> it's just a plugin, right?
[05:15] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then all is as it sould. im just explaining why there is a folder callen cdrom0
[05:15] <picasso> does anyone know how to get my modem working on Inspiron 6000 laptop? it is Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC.97 Modem
[05:15] <thor> fni: there are several layers involved. Gnome or KDE runs on top of X and a window manager usually runs on top of them
[05:15] <boink> in linux you have a very wide choice of window managers
[05:15] <dcordes> oh yes
[05:15] <gyoffi> guys, what package should I "dpkg-reconfigure" to set the nice value for the X server??
[05:15] <boink> unlike windows, where you're stuck with one
[05:15] <dcordes> definetly
[05:16] <lishak> boink:aha:) y mean plugin into firefox dont y?
[05:16] <dcordes> you should try gnome with xgl / beryl
[05:16] <boink> lishak: yes
[05:16] <lishak> boink:thank you:)
[05:16] <boink> I installed the flash 9 plugin myself
[05:16] <boink> but I haven't tested it that much yet
[05:16] <tsoler> so cdrom 0 is not in used , in my case
[05:16] <hondje> gyoffi: that's something you'll have to put in the startup scripts for X by hand
[05:17] <sholden> I am currently using a GeForce3 card, and when I go to screen resolution, I cannot select anything higher than 1024.  Does anyone know how I can enable higher resolutions?
[05:17] <hondje> Or use renice I suppose
[05:17] <FuzzyBear> you can use different window managers in Windows
[05:17] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes it is. thats where you first (and in your case, only) cdrom gets mounted
[05:17] <tsoler> well done
[05:17] <lishak> boink:yes i will try 8 and 9 :)
[05:17] <teledyn> anyone know what the deal is with 686 kernel being obsolete?
[05:17] <gyoffi> hondje, in debian (sid) there was an option in reconfigure
[05:17] <boink> 686 kernel?
[05:17] <picasso> anyone know how to get AC'97 mnodem to work in ubuntu?
[05:17] <gyoffi> I thought ubuntu has too
[05:17] <hondje> whaaa, really?
[05:17] <graveson> is it possible to have a directory list populate a database automatically ? If so which so software can i use for this
[05:17] <hondje> well, the pkg is xserver-xorg
[05:17] <tsoler> but weve completed only the half
[05:18] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, oh, why?
[05:18] <boink> graveson: no
[05:18] <boink> you need to talk with the database
[05:18] <deadhobo> LjL: I restarted X and the same thing happened as my original problem... I think that driver must not be compatible with my videocard or something.
[05:18] <fni> thor: gotcha. i've restarted and now my res is 640x480. and for some reason the refresh rate is -25888Hz (and i cannot change either)
[05:18] <hondje> Might have to goof with -p on dpkg-reconfigure to get it to ask, though :o
[05:18] <tsoler> this disk is partioned (one partition windows the other my files)
[05:19] <dau> so finally
[05:19] <gyoffi> Could anyone give me a hand with setting up a bash script to adjust nice value for the X server?
[05:19] <tsoler> now i see only c and not d, so i see the windows and not my files
[05:19] <picasso> crazy how few people use modems anymore hehe
[05:19] <tsoler> :'(
[05:19] <klm-> where can I download flash 9 for ubuntu?
[05:19] <picasso> im going to try sl-modem-daemon
[05:19] <thor> fni: gotta run...my ride is here. sorry
[05:19] <boink> klm-: abode has flash for linux
[05:20] <fnf> picasso: does lspci returns something ?
[05:20] <dau> how can i set grep to show me 3 lines above or below an hit??
[05:20] <picasso> fnf, not sure, only got this one machine =\
[05:20] <klm-> boink: yea but it's only version 7
[05:20] <picasso> from what i read, it sees the device but has no drivers
[05:20] <boink> no, it's 9 beta
[05:20] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then type in a terminal, 'sudo mkdir /media/windows2', open up fstab, copy the line you put in the last time, paste it in a new row, edit the '/media/windows'-part to '/media/windows2', and change the '/dev/sda1' to the partition where your files are
[05:20] <picasso> (im booted in windows)
[05:20] <nolimitsoya> save, and reboot :)
[05:20] <CyberWorking> hmm
[05:20] <boink> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:20] <CyberWorking> when trying to install xchat
[05:20] <CyberWorking> i get an error
[05:20] <CyberWorking> "no C compiler found in $path"
[05:20] <fnf> picasso: I don't have one, if you couldn't find a Linux driver, try using ndiswrapper.
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, i guess the partition you are interested in qould be /dev/sda2
[05:21] <FuzzyBear> graveson : find . -exec mysql -e "INSERT INTO table VALUES '{}'" \; or something might work
[05:21] <hondje> dau: -C I think
[05:21] <fnf> !ndiswrapper > picasso
[05:21] <CyberWorking> hmm
[05:21] <tsoler> ok will try this
[05:21] <sharperguy> whats tht doods popular 3rd party repo again?
[05:21] <picasso> fnf, this for modem, not wireless
[05:21] <CyberWorking> i see that it didnt find gcc... gcc is a good C compiler right?
[05:21] <graveson> FuzzyBear: thanks let me try that
[05:21] <boink> yes
[05:21] <deadhobo> Is there anything I should think about before plugging in a USB hub with an external sound card and bluetooth adapter?
[05:21] <hondje> dau: like grep -C3 term file for 3 lines on both sides
[05:21] <boink> do a gcc -v
[05:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, good. ille be gone for 15min, but if you run into any problems, just ask me when i get back. :) ill highligt you when im back, to ask how things are going, ok?
[05:21] <FuzzyBear> graveson : obviously you have to edit to suit your needs
[05:21] <fnf> picasso: doh, sorry, so I'm of no use.
[05:21] <boink> if you don't have gcc, you would need to install it
[05:22] <boink> apt-get install build-essentials
[05:22] <dau> hondje: thx buddy
[05:22] <picasso> its cool, i tried dolwnloading some software package
[05:22] <graveson> FuzzyBear: yes thanks
[05:22] <boink> !build-essentials
[05:22] <fni> guys, i'm trying to set my screen resolution but it's set to 640x480 and when i click it there are no other options
[05:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:23] <fnf> fni: should you take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the Screen section configures that.
[05:23] <FuzzyBear> is there a repository for CTAN packages?
[05:24] <CyberWorking> boink
[05:24] <fni> fnf, the desired res is already in xorg.conf. but for some reason they're not showing up in my screen resolution options
[05:24] <CyberWorking> "cant find package build essentials"
[05:24] <CyberWorking> "cant find package build-essentials"
[05:24] <fni> and my refresh rate is -25888hz O_o
[05:24] <fnf> fni: have you restarted X ?. What is your current driver ?.
[05:24] <boink> do an apt-cache search build-essential
[05:24] <tsoler> yes nolie, thanx a lot
[05:24] <sharperguy> CyberWorking, its build-essential bot essentialS
[05:25] <hondje> fni: Probably vert/horiz stuff then?
[05:25] <sharperguy> bot = not
[05:25] <boink> if you don't have that, you may have to update your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <CyberWorking> OH
[05:25] <CyberWorking> no s :P
[05:25] <CyberWorking> ye
[05:25] <eltech> is there a simple way to change the icons of items dropped on the desktop?
[05:25] <CyberWorking> no S boink :P
[05:25] <hondje> The HorizSync and VertRefresh fields in the Monitor section sometimes need to be filled in by hand to get all the right resolutions / refresh rates
[05:26] <gyoffi> Could anyone give me a hand with setting up a bash script to adjust nice value for the X server?
[05:26] <dau> does someone use an console irc-client?
[05:26] <fnf> gyoffi: what do you mean by nice value ?
[05:26] <C-O-L-T> when are we going to see automatic xgl in ubuntu? I mean like in Mandriva 2007, it is basic, you boot up mandriva and in most cases xgl/compiz works
[05:27] <boink> I use irssi
[05:27] <fni> anyone recommend a good VNC for ubuntu?
[05:27] <dau> boink: is irssi popular?
[05:27] <boink> yes
[05:27] <boink> and it's a good irc client too
[05:27] <CyberWorking> why the hell is my download speed diffrent :P
[05:27] <CyberWorking> with linux its around 50kb's a second
[05:27] <CyberWorking> in windows its 30kb's
[05:28] <hondje> gyoffi: renice VALUE -p `pgrep X` ?
[05:28] <fnf> fni: not really sure what's best for you, but xvnc4viewer and vncviewer packages work good enough for me.
 gyoffi: what do you mean by nice value ? <--- the nice value is a numeric value, to set a process's priority
[05:28] <dau> boink: so i can perfere it to xirc? i hope i works faster like ever console program
[05:28] <boink> dau: yes, it would work faster
[05:28] <fni> fnf, do both of them have a windows client?
[05:28] <boink> but irssi has a bit of a learning curve at first
[05:28] <fnf> fni: sure.
[05:29] <FuzzyBear> gyoffi : sed 's/^xinit/nice -n 0 xinit/'  /usr/bin/startx > newstartx
[05:29] <dau> boink: it took me quiet a while to get connected :) and window management and how to quit is not clear either is there a good tutorial like in vi?
[05:29] <gyoffi> FuzzyBear, thx
[05:30] <boink> dau: maybe on the irssi site
[05:30] <fnf> gyoffi: you may just alias 'startx' with 'nice' prepended.
[05:30] <dcordes> where can i set that the volume keys on my keyboard regulate not the Master volume control but PCM ?
[05:30] <boink> and there's always man irssi as well
[05:31] <gyoffi> thanks fnf, FuzzyBear and hoelk
[05:31] <gyoffi> hondje.
[05:31] <dau> hi
[05:31] <dau> hm
[05:31] <dau> hm funny somehow
[05:32] <dau> this is #linux right?
[05:32] <dau> o :)
[05:32] <bcs> Does the nvidia security problem affect nvidia legacy driver
[05:32] <fnf> dcordes: alsamixer would do the job, for a command line-able command try aumix
[05:32] <jbmigel> dau you are in #ubuntu ask a question if you dare
[05:33] <ProN00b> hmm, is there any tea timer applet for gnome or something ?
[05:33] <AsheD> are there any commandline mp3 taggers that support id3v2 AND use an ISO charset?
[05:33] <dau> jbmigel, just messed up in irssi don't know which is my window and stuff
[05:33] <lenath> Hi,
[05:33] <lenath> I would like to setup a cron job which would automatically empty the trash every day at 6:30PM. The following is the command I will insert in crontab, will this do the job? Code: 	30 18 * * * rmdir -r ~/.Trash/*
[05:34] <rebor> i have two perfect getting started links for irssi if anyone wants them?
[05:34] <dcordes> fnf: i'm in alsamixer right now. i can see how the master bar moves up and down when i press the volume keys. but where can i change that the keys regulate PCM ?
[05:34] <rebor> *perfect links
[05:34] <CyberWorking> wow xchat takes long to ./configure
[05:34] <CyberWorking> :P
[05:34] <dcordes> master has no effect on my real volume
[05:34] <gyoffi> rebor, I'm interested in that
[05:34] <okapi> Anyone know something about status 102 generate by Samba?
[05:34] <rebor> gyoffi: hold on it's on another computer
[05:34] <gyoffi> ok
[05:35] <fnf> dcordes: you'll want to setup a small configuration file '.xmodmaprc' in your home directory, then tell your window manager to automatically invoke the command 'xmodmap .cmodmaprc' at X boot time.
[05:35] <CyberWorking> AHHH
[05:35] <dau> boink: is it possible that irssi has to rooms like #ubuntu and #linux in the same windows? or is it just the status messages leaving and joining
[05:35] <fnf> !xmodmap
[05:35] <ubotu> xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:36] <CyberWorking> ./configure gave some "GLIB" error & now i cant "make" or "sudo make install"
[05:36] <dcordes> erm
[05:36] <rebor_> IRSSI LINKS - http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi and this http://selcouth.com/irssi.php
[05:36] <CyberWorking> "this usually means glib is incorrectly installed :/
[05:37] <fnf> dcordes: xmodmap remaps the key on your keyboard, I'm sure you'll get an idea after reading the man pages. I'll post a sample if you prefer.
[05:37] <dau> so
[05:37] <dau> so
[05:37] <dcordes> fnf: a sample would be great
[05:37] <fnf> dcordes: keycode 176=XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[05:38] <lenath> Does anyone know the terminal command to empty the trash?
[05:38] <CyberWorking> empty the trash :P
[05:38] <CyberWorking> nice way of putting it
[05:38] <lenath> lol
[05:39] <CyberWorking> any way ill be back later
[05:39] <CyberWorking> i need to close irc so i stop getting distracted
[05:39] <fnf> dcordes: you'll need to invoke xev to know what's the keycode of your volume keys.
[05:39] <lenath> Jst want to play around with crontab
[05:39] <tsoler> nolie
[05:40] <lenath> is this right? rmdir -r ~/.Trash/*
[05:40] <dau> ddd
[05:41] <dcordes> i have a file called pcmplease.xmodmaprc in my home folder, in my session startup there is an entry called "xmodmap .cmodmaprc" now and this xev gives me some weird numbers
[05:42] <fnf> dcordes: what does it say ?
[05:42] <sethk> lenath, better is   rm -fr ~/.Trash/.    note the dot at the end
[05:42] <Scorpmoon> being able to only assign one user:group to a directory, how do I solve the dilemma of having both a web (browser) user accessing my /var/www folder, and having an ftp user (admin) accessing it simultaneously?
[05:42] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set ubuntu auto detection) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:42] <fnf> dcordes: actually that's half of the story, you'd need to do one more step.
[05:42] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set by ubuntu automatically) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:42] <dau> hi am i in #ubuntu or in #linux?
[05:43] <Scorpmoon> dau, #windows
[05:43] <dau> Scorpmoon, funny
[05:43] <dcordes> KeymapNotify event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[05:43] <dcordes>     keys:  2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[05:43] <dcordes>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[05:43] <dcordes> PropertyNotify event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x3000001,
[05:43] <dcordes>     atom 0xba (_NET_WM_STATE), time<PHONE_NUMBER>, state PropertyNewValue
[05:43] <dcordes> sorry :-(
[05:44] <sohaibma> Does anyone know how to remove old modem drivers (the ones set by ubuntu automatically) and install new ones. (i have downloaded new drivers)
[05:44] <dau> /test /status doesn't give me an answer :(
[05:44] <sethk> sohaibma, drivers are usually kernel modules.  What did you download, exactly?
[05:44] <fnf> dcordes: alsamixer can't, but aumix can be invoked from the command line to set PCM value, the next step is to tell your window manager to call 'aumix -v+5' (for example) when you press the VolumeRaise button.
[05:44] <javiolo> hi
[05:45] <javiolo> how can I mount a fat32 partition to copy files from ubuntu ?
[05:45] <sethk> javiolo, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[05:45] <sethk> javiolo, hda1 is just an example, of course, it depends on your partition layout
[05:45] <FuzzyBear> mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt
, i have a conexant soft 56k modem, ubuntu detected it as Riptide HSF Modem, now i want to install the drivers i downloaded from the vendor's website how do i do that
[05:45] <dcordes> fnf: how do i do so? as i said i only have the blank file and the startup entry by now
[05:46] <fnf> dcordes: unfortunately, that depends on your particular window manager/DE, I'm using icewm right now so I have no idea how to couple a key with a commnd in GNOME. You may try to look at System --> Administration --> Keyboard or something.
[05:46] <sethk> sohaibma, what did you download?  a package?  a tar archive?  files?
[05:46] <MaxRandor> snoops: I tried reburning the disk at half the speed but I ran into the same problem DRS-DOS
[05:46] <markdrago> I found a bug in an ubuntu package and would like to contribute a patch.  I'm wondering how I can access ubuntu package sources from source control.
[05:46] <fnf> "Gotta back to work, see you people"
[05:47] <javiolo> sethk thanks
[05:47] <sohaibma> a .deb file and a License file in .zip folder
[05:47] <sohaibma> sethk, its a .deb file and a License file in .zip folder
[05:47] <sethk> sohaibma, if it is a deb, and is intended for ubuntu (rather than debian), you install it with dpkg
[05:48] <webben> Has anyone else found this: any time i copy from a document in OpenOffice writer, then try to paste (into Gaim), OpenOffice crashes and quits
[05:48] <sohaibma> sethk, sorry i am a newbie so i didn't get you
[05:48] <sohaibma> sethk, what is dpkg
[05:49] <Foolish> WHere can I get a package list of the kubuntu live cd?
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, dpkg is a program.  you run it at the command line.
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, do  man dpkg     for general instructions
[05:49] <dcordes> fnf: i only can set a different key for volume up/down there but not set it to PCM
[05:49] <sethk> sohaibma, normally you would say:   dpkg --install whatever.deb
[05:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, hows it going?
[05:50] <sohaibma> sethk, so i dont need to remove the old drivers, i just need to run the package?
[05:50] <Studiosus> help! installed sim (icq client), and there's no icq icon (flower), so look is quite ugly :( how to fix?
[05:50] <sethk> sohaibma, ordinarily, yes.
[05:50] <sethk> sohaibma, you can always remove the other one later, if necessary
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> Foolish: I'm not sure, but I think there's a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCdCustomization that might say something useful?
[05:51] <fnf> dcordes: you need to tell GNOME (I suppose that's what you're using ?) to invoke aumix instead. Try setting it in Keyboard section in System
[05:51] <dcordes> yep i use gnome with xgl / beryl
[05:51] <xplore> hi.can ubuntu be installed along with win xp and freebsd? any precautions?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> Studiosus: You mean in the Gnome applications menu?
[05:51] <lando> how can i burn an iso? does ubuntu come with this software installed?
[05:51] <sohaibma> sethk, please help me; how do i remove it
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> !burniso
[05:51] <ubotu> burniso is To burn an ISO CD in windows, mac, or linux, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:51] <fnf> dcordes: have you tried aumix yet ?
[05:51] <Studiosus> no, in sim itself, all icons except flower :(
[05:51] <dcordes> no
[05:51] <dcordes> i will give it a shot wait
[05:51] <sonics> high
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ?
[05:52] <cached> how do i increase my resolution past 1024x768?
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | cached
[05:52] <ubotu> cached: x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:52] <nolimitsoya> cached, type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enable those resolutions you want to use
[05:52] <Studiosus> so, for example, in notification area there's not sim icon but qt default icon
[05:52] <rambo3> do i need glases , every new ubuntu get smaller and smaller fonts
[05:53] <dcordes> fnf: i can only control the volume there right?
[05:53] <nolimitsoya> rambo3, just increase them if you need to ;)
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> Studiosus: Two options: a) Contact the package maintainer, b) poke around for a while.  Sorry, can't help you much with a specific app that I haven't used personally :(
[05:53] <rambo3> nolimitsoya, i know how to do that , just asking if its fonts that get smaler
[05:53] <sohaibma> sethk, please help me; how do i remove the old drivers?
[05:54] <fnf> dcordes: with aumix you can change anything that alsamixer support, the diffrence is that it can be change through command line, you'll use that to tell GNOME to invoke that command each time a Volume key is pressed.
[05:54] <nolimitsoya> rambo3, i havnt noticed any such behaviour, no
[05:54] <sethk> sohaibma, dpkg --remove   if you know the package name
[05:54] <bcstev> IS there a security problem with Nvidia driver?
[05:54] <dcordes> ok now i'm getting the outline of what you are trying to explain.. :-) but how can i find out which command this is?
[05:55] <sohaibma> seth, the drivers were autocatically installed by ubuntu, how do i find out the package name?
[05:55] <rambo3> !topic > bcstev
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <computer13137> I was wondering if anyone here has ever setup a Halo dedicated server on Ubuntu.  I would like to try to do this, but I'm not sure what emulation software I need, etc... I would appreciate someone pushing me in the right direction if you know.  :)
[05:55] <fnf> dcordes: a few examples: global volume: aumix -v+10, PCM: aumix -w-5
[05:56] <tsoler> yes
[05:56] <tsoler> ere u here?
[05:56] <Studiosus> thx, is it just me, or here's only messages with starting 'help!' or something get answered? :)
[05:56] <deadhobo> Hello... I have a Sound Blaster Extigy plugged in and recignized in the device manager... I switched my default sound device to it, but VLC does not use the correct card
[05:56] <tsoler> noliemitsoya
[05:56] <fnf> dcordes: 'man aumix' should tell it all. After that, configure GNOME to call that command then you're good to go.
[05:56] <dcordes> fnf i guess that's too complicated for me :-(
[05:56] <tsoler> are u with me?
[05:58] <sohaibma> sethk, the drivers were autocatically installed by ubuntu, how do i find out the package name?
[05:58] <fnf> dcordes: it's not that difficutl, you're running a Linux box ;) the man page is your friend.
[05:58] <tsoler> nolie
[05:58] <tsoler> bad luck
[05:59] <cryptonic> can someone help me with this, im trying to add a file in the usr/lib64/mozilla/ folder but i have no write access, when i try to add write access in properties it wont let me saying i am not the owner
[05:59] <sohaibma> sethk, are you there?
[05:59] <cryptonic> ?
[05:59] <fnf> dcordes: see ya.
[05:59] <rambo3> cryptonic, why not use ldconf
[05:59] <dcordes> fnf ok. thanks for your help i'm much appreacheated
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, did everything work out?
[06:00] <cryptonic> idconf?
[06:00] <tsoler> ha
[06:00] <rambo3> ldconfig
[06:00] <cached> thanks for helping me with resolution!
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ?
[06:00] <tsoler> i did leave u a personal im
[06:00] <cryptonic> how do i do that?
[06:00] <cached> now, one more question. how do i get the mouse wheel to work again
[06:00] <tsoler> yes
[06:00] <tsoler> nolie
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that never got through it seems :)
[06:00] <cached> it's a 5 button mouse
[06:00] <rambo3> save path to your new lib in /etc/ld.so something something and run ldconfig
[06:00] <nonrootuser> hi!
[06:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, great :)
[06:00] <tsoler> ive made a msitake i think
[06:01] <nonrootuser> I'm a newbbie
[06:01] <nolimitsoya> what mistake?
[06:01] <tsoler> i didnt change to windows2 in fstab
[06:01] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then do :)
[06:01] <nonrootuser> is there a channel for beginners?
[06:01] <tsoler> now i see windows and windows2 but the same contents
[06:01] <dau> hm
[06:02] <tsoler> that simple?
[06:02] <dau> where am i?
[06:02] <dau> !status
[06:02] <cryptonic> is there any way to get ownership within the browser?
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <tsoler> u mean change the fstab again?
[06:02] <nonrootuser> maybe I'm breaking netiquette?
[06:03] <rambo3> cryptonic, you can run sudo nautilus
[06:03] <rbil> nonrootuser, you're a beginner of what?
[06:03] <nonrootuser> of ubuntu..
[06:03] <nonrootuser> maybe you can see
[06:04] <rbil> well as far as I know you're in it :-)
[06:04] <nonrootuser>  that I'm using breezy
[06:04] <nonrootuser> I gotta upgrade to Dapper
[06:04] <nonrootuser> but I'm on a 56k..
[06:04] <dau> dir
[06:04] <Gavrila> is hibernate not finding swap partition a known problem for edgy ?
[06:04] <Yourname> Hi, how can I update wpa_supplicant to latest available stable version, using apt-get?
[06:05] <rebor_> nonrootuser: wait for edgy to come out and buy a magazine with it on the cover.
[06:05] <nonrootuser> ok
[06:05] <nonrootuser> the pkgs are too heavy?
[06:05] <cryptonic> sudo nautilus?
[06:06] <cryptonic> all i need to do is copy over one file to the mozilla directory to enable flash?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> !flash | cryptonic
[06:06] <ubotu> cryptonic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:07] <cryptonic> i knwo what to do
[06:07] <Lattyware> Could someone help me with two problems please: 1) My audio does not work sometimes, I have to reboot to fix it. (It either works at boot or doesn't). 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot, and have to put them in again. (Static IP)
[06:07] <cryptonic> paste the flash.so to the usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/ folder
[06:07] <cryptonic> but i have no write access
[06:07] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, didnt you ask this a while ago, and got quite a few suggestions? have you tried them all?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> cryptonic: Use sudo
[06:08] <cryptonic> sudo???????? in filebrowser
[06:08] <nonrootuser> thank you all
[06:08] <nolimitsoya_> cryptonic, alt+f2 'gksu nautilus'
[06:08] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: I got two, which I didn't understand fully, I asked the people who gave the suggestions, and they failed to respond.
[06:08] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, in bios, set the irq of the pci slot of your soundcard by hand
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> cryptonic: Be very very careful if you're running about in nautilus as root.
[06:09] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: Could you explain what the irq is?
[06:10] <nolimitsoya_> Lattyware, define:irq -> google.com ;)
[06:10] <tuxi> i want format a floppy with fdformat
[06:10] <Lattyware> fair enough
[06:10] <XVampireX> What's the package for the md5 utility?
[06:10] <Gavrila> anyone having problems with swapon and hibernate?
[06:10] <tuxi> the problem i have no fd01440 or fdu1440 device
[06:11] <tuxi> how can i add the device
[06:11] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, :)
[06:11] <XVampireX> What's the package for the md5 utility?
[06:11] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya_: OK, I will try that, can't say I have noticed a bios option before...
[06:11] <XVampireX> !md5sum
[06:11] <ubotu> To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[06:11] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, did you change your fstab to read  '/dev/sda2' and '/media/windows2/' in the new line?
[06:11] <tsoler> yes
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> did it do any good?
[06:12] <rbil> XVampireX, you talking about md5sum? I believe it's installed by default, but I could be wrong
[06:12] <tuxi> can help me anybody
[06:12] <tsoler> GREAT
[06:12] <tsoler> hoora
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> !anybody > tuxi
[06:12] <nolimitsoya_> tsoler, glad for you :)
[06:12] <tsoler> :) now i can see
[06:12] <XVampireX> Ah, rbil, thanks :)
[06:12] <tsoler> and i found also shortcuts in my desktop
[06:12] <dv5000> what ubuntu sites should i read from time to time if i want to be update whit the latest progresses ect?
[06:12] <xplore> anybody please tell me whether i can install ubuntu along with freebsd and xp. currently i have only xp. any precautions?
[06:13] <cached> how do i activate the mousewheel
[06:13] <deadhobo> Anyone here have experience with the Soundblaster Extigy?
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> xplore, yes you can. just du a backup of your data, before resizing and stuff...
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> deadhobo, they arent working
[06:13] <cached> how do i activate the mousewheel?
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> deadhobo, disregard that >_<
[06:13] <xplore> nolimitsoya_: thanx
[06:13] <nolimitsoya_> thought of xfi
[06:13] <deadhobo> nolimitsoya_, ok... lol
[06:14] <tsoler> nolie thanx a lot:)
[06:14] <niklas_e> is there any free sms service that you can use to send sms when you get emails?
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> np tsoler, thats what a community is about, right? :)
[06:14] <deadhobo> niklas_e, yes, I think there is one called teleflip or something...
[06:14] <tsoler> u are all very helpfull
[06:14] <dv5000> !news
[06:14] <niklas_e> thanks ;)
[06:15] <tsoler> nolie are u just a user like me?
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, yes i am. everyone in here is. :)
[06:15] <cached> Please help Colon open parenthesis
[06:15] <tsoler> or u are involved in ubuntu developing?
[06:15] <frank_b> how much better is firefox than the epiphany web browser? is firefox safer for example?
[06:15] <cached> how do i get the mousewheel to work. the tutorials online didnt seem to work
[06:15] <Yourname> Anything special I need to do to logon to a WPA2 network, when I have nm, (and have drviers installed with ndiswrapper) wpa_supplicant, linux-wlan-ng installed?
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, everyone here is just average users helping eachother out. noone is getting payed, and i font think any developers are active :)
[06:16] <tsoler> thanks god there is ubuntu then
[06:16] <rbil> cached, what type of a mouse is it? should just work if setup in xorg.conf
[06:16] <Toma-> frank_b: theyre both based from mozilla...
[06:17] <frank_b> Toma-, hmm thanks
[06:17] <dv5000> what ubuntu sites should i read from time to time if i want to be update whit the latest progresses ect?
[06:17] <cached> rbil: 5 button mouse. it was working before i reconfigured xorg but i think i got all the options correct
[06:17] <rbil> :-)
[06:17] <tsoler> but there is still an issue of transition
[06:17] <XiCillin> is there anyway to make it so a screen saver never comes on and your screen never automatically turns off?
[06:17] <rbil> you got a backup anywhere of xorg.conf
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, yes, in your screensaver settings :)
[06:17] <frank_b> Toma-, so I won't have a less safe browsing experience if I start using epiphany instead?
[06:17] <cached> rbil: no
[06:18] <Toma-> frank_b: id say no.
[06:18] <cached> rbil: i had to reconfigure it for a new video card
[06:18] <XiCillin> nolimitsoya, i just see a choice for a screen saver or 'blank screen' i just want to have the screen stay on!
[06:18] <deadhobo> how does one find/install drivers for hardware?
[06:18] <tsoler> all here are windows ex usures?
[06:18] <frank_b> Toma-, hmm thank you very much :)
[06:18] <rbil> can I pm you cached ?
[06:18] <cached> rbil, sure
[06:18] <Toma-> frank_b: np. epiphany lacks features tho.
[06:18] <Toma-> imho
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, in advanced, uncheck the 'power management enabled' box
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, and in 'display modes', change mode to 'no screensaver'
[06:19] <anon32> YAY, only um... 2 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 57 seconds until dist-upgrade completes
[06:19] <frank_b> Toma-, yes, I've noticed that. the thing is firefox doesn't load some pages right for me
[06:19] <tsoler> there is a need to write ntfs in order of  making the transition
[06:19] <anon32> my connection pwns, lol
[06:19] <XiCillin> nolimisoya, in gnome?
[06:19] <rbil> cached, didn't work ... you aren't registerd. try to pm me and we'll see if that works
[06:19] <frank_b> Toma-, I'll compare the two more to make a decision
[06:19] <Toma-> frank_b: try swiftfox? doubt it'll change anything but m,ight help
[06:20] <nolimitsoya> XiCillin, in screensaver preferences. im using xfce, though i think the gnome equvalent is the same
[06:20] <frank_b> Toma-, didn't know that one. I'll look for it. thanks
[06:20] <anon32> tsoler, currently, the best way to write to ntfs is with captive ntfs, but it's not very legal
[06:20] <tsoler> captive?
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes it is. though you must own a windows license :)
[06:21] <XiCillin> nah, the only choices i have in gnome sceensaver preferences is to choose a screen saver or 'blank screen' there is a checkbox for "ACtivate screensaver when session is idle" i unchecked it
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the best (non windows way) is ntfs-3g
[06:21] <XiCillin> so maybe it'lll never come on
[06:21] <anon32> tsoler, it uses the Windows ntfs.sys to perform read/writes
[06:21] <XiCillin> and in power manegment htere is no advancex
[06:21] <anon32> nolimitsoya, read your windows license, that constitutes using windows on another machine
[06:21] <tsoler> guys im having two windows licences
[06:22] <deadhobo> I have a logitech bluetooth hub for my mouse and keyboard that is recignized, but does not work. Where should I start to look for drivers?
[06:22] <coolzero> salut a tous
[06:22] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: I couldn't find any settings to do that.
[06:22] <tsoler> but i m sick of it i want to make a transition
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, im thinking of a dual boot situation, since that will be the situation in what you may want to use a ntfs drive :)
[06:22] <cached> rbil, are you there?
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> thats still one system
[06:23] <tsoler> i am on a dual boot
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what are you trying to do?
[06:23] <rbil> cached, are u registered with nickserv?
[06:23] <anon32> tsoler, format, install, finish
[06:23] <tsoler> dont you?
[06:23] <cached> rbil, yes
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you want to write to ntfs partitions?
[06:23] <tsoler> want to write ntfs
[06:23] <Lattyware> ...
[06:23] <cached> rbil, -NickServ- You have already identified
[06:23] <rbil> cache, well I thought I was too, but not working, I'll do it again. Did it a few days ago
[06:23] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, give me 5min, and ill find a ntfs-3g guide, ok? :)
[06:23] <XVampireX> Hey
[06:23] <XVampireX> I don't know if it's a good place to talk about it
[06:24] <tsoler> ok nollie
[06:24] <anon32> I don't dual-boot, my disk space is limited enough as is
[06:24] <anon32> tsoler, google for captive-ntfs, nobody follows the rules anyway
[06:24] <tsoler> those extension ive installed cause the bad boot though
[06:24] <XVampireX> But when you people help people to linux, do you expect them to know everything or do you help them with say... the mindset of linux/open source/unix?
[06:25] <Toma-> XVampireX: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:25] <anon32> tsoler, do you still need your Windows install?
[06:25] <XVampireX> I know, but it's still related
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CaptiveHowTo <- thats the captive way, though ntfs-3g is to be preferred imo. also, youll have to grope around the fstab again
[06:25] <XVampireX> meh
[06:25] <tsoler> anan32: i own a windows licence
[06:26] <anon32> tsoler, that's not what I asked
[06:26] <anon32> the easiest thing to do if you don't need your Windows install anymore would be to backup and format as XFS, ResierFS, or ext3
[06:26] <tsoler> yes of course
[06:26] <tsoler> i need windows
[06:26] <tsoler> im two days using ubuntu
[06:26] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, just follow the guide i gave you for captive, or wait for a 3g guide, ok? :)
[06:26] <anon32> nolimitsoya, if you use ntfs-3g, you have to boot to windows and chkdsk fairly often
[06:27] <anon32> tsoler, you should try using a third partition to store your data, fat32 or ext2 can both have full support in Windows
[06:27] <rbil> cached, sorry don't know what's going on? looks like pm is blocked
[06:27] <Justi1> hello everyone. i am completely new to linux and just ran ubuntu off the live CD. before I actually install ubuntu on my system i was wondering how i can use my dual monitors. can anyone help me?
[06:27] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, fat32 is a big nono, and etx2 isnt journaled :)
[06:27] <cached> rbil someone else managed to pm me. is it possibly a problem on your side?
[06:27] <tsoler> look
[06:28] <rbil> cached, certainly possible. I too had it working.
[06:28] <anon32> nolimitsoya, meh
[06:28] <tsoler> ihave on disk with only ubuntu
[06:28] <elias_> my gamin does not seem to get started!
[06:28] <anon32> life's about compromise
[06:28] <elias_> what's wrong?
[06:28] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs+3g <- thats 3g
[06:29] <ianmacgregor> cached: You are id'd to nickserv, rbil is not so you won't see his pm's. He needs to id to nickserv in order to pm you
[06:29] <nolimitsoya> anon32, not being able to have bigger files than 4gb is not a compromice, its a showstopper. also, having questionable fsck och no journal is baaaad
[06:30] <[erisco] > how do you permanately (spl?) show hidden and backup files?
[06:30] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: I couldn't find any settings to do that.
[06:30] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, are thing clearing up somewhat?
[06:30] <anon32> nolimitsoya, and if you try using ntfs-3g or captive-ntfs, you could wreck the file system, again, compromise
[06:30] <nolimitsoya> Lattyware, sry, cant help you then :) perhaps someonw else can. you can always post in the forums
[06:30] <anon32> [erisco] , in nautilus?
[06:31] <Lattyware> ok, thanks for your attempts, anyway.
[06:31] <silox> I try to install Cedega, but i fails on "3d acceleration" and "Open GL", i have a Dell Inspiron 8100 with a NVIDIA Geforce2 Go graphiccard. Whats the problem?
[06:31] <Justi1> can anyone help me with my dual monitor situation?
[06:31] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > Justi1
[06:31] <Lattyware> Justi1: I've done alot of that, I'll try.
[06:31] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : View -> Show hidden files
[06:31] <Lattyware> It's a hell of alot easier if you have an nVidia graphics card, I'll say that to begin with.
[06:32] <Justi1> nvidia i have
[06:32] <anon32> !nvidia > silox
[06:32] <tsoler> yes but there are problems i see
[06:32] <[erisco] > anon32, yeah
[06:32] <ianmacgregor> [erisco] : Preferences, Views tab, Show hidden and backup files
[06:32] <Lattyware> Justi1: So, what is the problem?
[06:32] <webben> Can someone remind me where to add new templates to nautilus?
[06:32] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ntfs on linux means problems anyway you try to go. :)
[06:33] <anon32> [erisco] , view > show hidden files
[06:33] <silox> anon32 i have the nvidia drivers installed
[06:33] <dijungal> isn't there a tool that allows u to write to NTFS partitions now..?
[06:33] <tsoler> i own a licence so i have a choise betwwen captive and ntfs -3g
[06:33] <anon32> that should work
[06:33] <[erisco] > thanks
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, the best thing is to decidewhat tasks you want done, how many of those you can do on linux, and just isolate those there. then there is no need to read/write between systems
[06:33] <tsoler> which do u thinjk its the best?
[06:33] <sethk> dijungal, there has been for three years.  supposedly it works better now, but I don't trust it.
[06:33] <Lattyware> Justi1: ...
[06:34] <dijungal> sethk: i mean write not read only ehhh
[06:34] <anon32> silox, err... have you tried #cedega?
[06:34] <Justi1> wel lattyware, i just stared up the live cd and my second monitor says it is our of range
[06:34] <anon32> maybe it's ##cedega
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, any of them is a bad coice in my opinion :)
[06:34] <Justi1> but being a complete webie to linux/ubuntu, i have no idea where to go change that sort of thing
[06:34] <[erisco] > still did not work
[06:34] <dijungal> so it's not trust worthy enough to include in ubuntu as yet...
[06:34] <silox> anon32 ill try thx
[06:34] <dijungal> ?
[06:34] <bruenig> such a newbie, can't even spell it
[06:34] <[erisco] > nevermind, had to restart the file browser
[06:34] <[erisco] > thanks, it worked
[06:34] <anon32> !nvidia > Justi1
[06:34] <anon32> make sure you do that first
[06:34] <tsoler> three or four years of data are in my ntfs disk
[06:34] <Lattyware> Right. Well, to get dual moniters to work, you would need it on your hard drive.
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, for one thing, ntfs is a crappy filesystem, and writing to ntfs fromlinx has alwas been a lot of extra trouble
[06:35] <Ademan_sleep> what electrical engineering software exists for ubuntu? i found "electric" in the repositories, along with eagle, anything else? which is better? etc?
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, copy it to you linux drive then :)
[06:35] <anon32> [erisco] , really? go to edit > preferences
[06:35] <anon32> nvm
[06:35] <sethk> Ademan_sleep, nothing, really
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that is, all tha data you can use in linux
[06:35] <Lattyware> Either that or somehow make the edits then burn them to a CD, which is way beyond me, in any case.
[06:35] <Justi1> ahh ok, thanks lattyware
[06:35] <Lattyware> Not at all.
[06:35] <Ademan_sleep> sethk: huh, i was just looking to play around with it lol, its pretty interesting to me
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, keep your windows drive just for games, and the few taskt you cant find a good replacement for in linux. then the problem is gone
[06:35] <Lattyware> Took me ages to set up mine :P
[06:35] <tsoler> but if i copy to ext i would not be able to read from windows
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> *tasks
[06:36] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: you might try looking into WINE
[06:36] <sethk> Ademan_sleep, I meant no tools to speak of, except a few for drawing diagrams.
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you can still using special drivers, but why would you need to?
[06:36] <anon32> took me ages to get my winmodem working... it'll take me another age to upgrade to edgy
[06:36] <Ademan_sleep> sethk: yeah, kinda dissapointing
[06:36] <tsoler> whts the wine?
[06:36] <nolimitsoya> !wine
[06:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:37] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: lets you run windows programs on linux
[06:37] <anon32> tsoler, FAT32
[06:37] <starsky_hutchy> tsoler, there are programs to read ext2/3 from windows.
[06:37] <anon32> and Wine Is Not an Emulator > ##wine
[06:37] <anon32> oops, it's #winehq
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, thats still irrelevant to the problem imo... its just a way or running some windows programs in linux
[06:37] <Justi1> thank you for your help lettyware, i am going to get ubuntu installed on my HD then i will try to get this thing working, thanks agian
[06:37] <Lattyware> Could someone help with my two problems?: 1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[06:38] <Lattyware> Justi1: Not at all, I have been in exactly the same postion :P
[06:38] <Ademan_sleep> tsoler: check http://www.winehq.com in the AppDB to see if your programs/games work with wine, I run counter strike source, half life 2, and counter strike, with wine at full speeds on my computer
[06:38] <tsoler> ok ill check this out
[06:38] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: You behind a router?
[06:38] <tsoler> but i need gis
[06:38] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, you can't run any elf format in windows, unless you have some kind of emulator.
[06:38] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: Yes.
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: If the router IP in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:39] <anon32> I've been less than impressed with WINE, config is a pain and it randomly crashes
[06:39] <anon32> Lattyware, does your router use DHCP? if it does, turn that off
[06:39] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, please explain :)
[06:39] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: How do you mean?
[06:39] <Lattyware> anon32: No, it doesn't.
[06:39] <alek> hi, i forgot, how to add/remove program from "autostart"
[06:39] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[06:40] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, what do you mean by 'elf format'?
[06:40] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, what's there to explain ? window's files are coff format, elfs are Gnu/Linux specific. serioulsy this you should know as Linux user ? I am surprised.
[06:40] <Lattyware> ianmacgregor: It's blank.
[06:40] <ianmacgregor> Lattyware: Ahh, ok, not that same problem I had, then.
[06:40] <dijungal> question: when a drive is mounted it shows up on my desktop... how do i prevent it from showing up on my desktop.... i'll look for it in computer or places... i don't want it on my desktop
[06:40] <shylock> hi how do i start the program that makes x11.conf files?
[06:40] <shylock> the one with blue backround
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, i dont think you are speaking of the same things i am. copying music from a windows drive to a linux one is no problem. niether is using those files ;)
[06:41] <anon32> Lattyware, have you actually set up your dynamic IP and etc?
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> what else have i suggested?
[06:41] <alek> how to add/remove program from ubuntu "autostart" ?
[06:41] <anon32> dijungal, change the mount point in /etc/fstab to somewhere other than /media
[06:41] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, ok. we are in different angular plane here. I won't bother you. help your mate. :) sorry abt the intrusion.
[06:41] <dijungal> hmm.... i like the media idea
[06:42] <nemoo> alek if you use  gnome try gnome-sesstion-properties
[06:42] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, no, please explain what you thought i ment. im always happy to learn if there is something im missing :)
[06:42] <alek> nemoo: no, im not using any GUI
[06:42] <dijungal> is there another way..?
[06:43] <Lattyware> anon32: I have a static IP.
[06:43] <Lattyware> I did say that.
[06:43] <savje> hi! I have a problem, I just installed Ubunut on my laptop, a couple days ago, and I've notice that the computer 'locks' or hang-up and nothing is responding except when I press "space" and then the computer goes back to normal but to the state it was when it locked... So if the computer locks at 15:00 and I press "space" at 16:00 the computer clock still is 15:00... Is this a well known problem and do anyone know how to solve it?
[06:44] <nemoo> alek: so update-rc.d
[06:44] <anon32> alek, to change startup programs go to preferences > sessions
[06:44] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, where you takling about executables?
[06:44] <anon32> help! how do I disable daemons (i.e. that annoying bt daemon)
[06:45] <Chief> hey guys, i have a question: can I use Wireshark without root-privilegs?
[06:45] <anon32> starsky_hutchy, that's only somewhat true, cygwin can rebuild linux apps to run on windows
[06:45] <anon32> Chief, depends on your network device's permissions
[06:45] <anon32> usually, no
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> ... and wine gives windows executables the environment they need...
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> *-n
[06:46] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, elf are executable and linkable format, sort of output from gcc -o. Windows coff are portable executable format, that are produced by their native compiler, their c++ compiler (vcc?). now to run in multiple arch, you either need 1) a way to translate the different formats into the same low-level format. Yes, cygwin is gcc environment emulator on windows.
[06:46] <Chief> how can i change the network privilegs?
[06:46] <nolimitsoya> starsky_hutchy, yes, this i perfectly understood. just not what we where talking about. thank you for clarifying :)
[06:47] <anon32> Chief, no diea
[06:47] <Chief> can i just say: chown -R username /dev/eth0 ?
[06:47] <anon32> idea*
[06:47] <anon32> Chief, um, do you have a /dev/eth0?
[06:48] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, don't worry. my assumption was bad.  1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[06:49] <fni> guys, when following instructions for linux, what OS is the most similar? Red Hat or Debian?
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you need file access cross the systems, yes, but you dont want that. you want to avoid that need as much as you possibly can
[06:49] <starsky_hutchy> nolimitsoya, you file command ? use that to know your magic file type. also man file and I think /etc/magic.
[06:49] <tsoler> if it goes well i can format my files with ext and use them both way?
[06:49] <Chief> I don't have a /dev/eth0 anyway
[06:49] <anon32> fni, debian
[06:49] <Music_Shuffle> fni: seems like Debian moreso >.>
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you cant format a partition and keep you data
[06:50] <tsoler> noli this is a workstation i cant make transition so easily
[06:50] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, copy all work that can be done in linux to you linux partition
[06:50] <anon32> tsoler, yes (ext2 though, ext3 has issues with Windows)
[06:50] <rbil> Chief, you using wireless?
[06:50] <dfgas_> how do i forcefully remove something?
[06:50] <nolimitsoya> anon32, acctualy, etx3 is read and written to perfectly, just without journaling
[06:50] <anon32> XFS 4 the win! (jk)
[06:51] <Chief> both wired and wireless
[06:51] <fni> anon32, thanks
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, what transitions cant you make?
[06:51] <anon32> dfgas_, from what?
[06:51] <rbil> Chief, can't understand how you don't have eth0
[06:51] <anon32> nolimitsoya, therefore, it's no different from ext2?
[06:51] <tsoler> i want to be able to work with gis
[06:51] <sventek> there is a new RC system in edgy right? What is the right way to add/remove programs from the beeing started?
[06:51] <[Daniel] > Aahh, it's so nice to be running Linux again. :-)
[06:51] <anon32> Chief, do you have /dev/eth?
[06:51] <Chief> in /dev/ is no eth0 and eth1
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes it is, when using the sam efilsystem from linux ;)
[06:52] <anon32> nolimitsoya, most likely, MS Office
[06:52] <anon32> or Adobe Photoshop
[06:52] <tsoler> 100 gb of data are in my ntfs disk
[06:52] <jbmigel> welcome back to the land of the open [Daniel]
[06:52] <[Daniel] > Anyone know how to change Edgy to store the BIOS clock in local time rather than UTC?
[06:52] <dfgas_> anon32, dpkg
[06:52] <nexact> hey all, id like to know how I can install php-cli ?
[06:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, and what part of that data cant you use on you linux system?
[06:52] <[Daniel] > jbmigel> Thanks! It's been many many years, but finally I can breathe again. :-)
[06:52] <Chief> no i have no /dev/eth
[06:52] <Chief> but network works
[06:52] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, or are you saying you dont have the hdd space?
[06:52] <anon32> dfgas, dpkg -fr I think
[06:52] <tsoler> yes
[06:52] <POVaddct> network interfaces have no device nodes in /dev, that's normal
[06:53] <Chief> k
[06:53] <nolimitsoya> anon32, msoffice has a compatible equvalent, and photoshop can be run using wine if th gimp isnt enough
[06:53] <anon32> dfgas, oh wait, it's just dpkg -r
[06:53] <tsoler> my linux installation is on 10 gb disk
[06:53] <nolimitsoya> (so can office, btw)
[06:53] <Chief> so how can i change netwok privilegs then?
[06:53] <anon32> POVaddct, where are they then?
[06:53] <anon32> nolimitsoya, MS Office has NO equivalent
[06:53] <anon32> and Photoshop 9 runs with issues in WINE
[06:54] <Lynoure> anon32: What's missing from OpenOffice?
[06:54] <anon32> and btw, Office 2003/2007 does NOT run in WINE
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: the aren't
[06:54] <nolimitsoya> anon32, openoffice is format compatible. from there you can export to odf, of whatever you like
[06:54] <anon32> Chief, what's wrong with just running Ethereal/Wireshark as root?
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: network interfaces can only be seen with ifconfig and ip
[06:54] <Lattyware> The only thing missing is a 'Publisher' like app.
[06:54] <anon32> Lynoure, um.... that's like comparing MS Paint and Photoshop
[06:54] <POVaddct> anon32: ifconfig -a, ip a
[06:55] <anon32> OO.o is nice, but if you just look at the two side by side....
[06:55] <davvs> is there any way, in a bash script, to get a string of all arguments?
[06:55] <Lattyware> anon32: What features are missing from OO.o compared to MSO
[06:55] <Lattyware> ?
[06:55] <anon32> POVaddct, :-(
[06:55] <brainiac> does anyone know a systemwide equalizer fr alsa?
[06:55] <rbil> Lattyware, no dancing paper clip?
[06:55] <Lattyware> lol
[06:55] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you want to transition, make a backup to another compyter/to dvdrw, format the ntfs partition, make a smaller one, copy your windows only work to that, and make a linux partition for the rest
[06:55] <Chief> anon32: it'smore comfortable without root privilegs
[06:56] <anon32> Lattyware, let's see... grammar check, MSO has way more templates, clippy (jk), vb script, etc etc etc
[06:56] <nolimitsoya> *remove the ntfs partiotion
[06:56] <Lynoure> anon32: if you cannot be bothered to list them all, top 5 would be nice
[06:56] <Music_Shuffle> But some of us don't use all the functions of office. Especially grammar check...which is wrong what, half the time? =/
[06:56] <Lynoure> etc is hard to code in without further specs
[06:56] <anon32> Chief, not really, network devices are allocated to root for a good reason
[06:56] <Lattyware> rbil: Reminds me of that animated GIF where they have the paperclip in VIM :P
[06:56] <tsoler> nolie you said that i can format the partition on ext3 without loosing data????
[06:56] <anon32> Lynoure, patience, I have +22 sec lag
[06:57] <Chief> anon32: k, thx
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no thats the opposite of what i said ;)
[06:57] <marshall__> are there any web developers in here? ive got a bit of trouble with one of my pages :S
[06:57] <tsoler> so i can format ntfs to ext3 without loosing my data???
[06:57] <Lattyware> anon32: The grammar check failed miserably, who needs templates? vbscript isn't so major really...
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> no, you cant
[06:57] <[Daniel] > davvs> "$*"
[06:57] <Lynoure> anon32: hardly any lag to me :)
[06:57] <Lattyware> marshall__: Sure, what's the problem?
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> you cant format a filesystem without loosing data
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> tsoler: Equate "format partition" with "losing every 1 and 0 stored on the partition".
[06:58] <davvs> thanks [Daniel]
[06:58] <[Daniel] > np :)
[06:58] <Lattyware> Formating by it's very definition means to wipe.
[06:58] <Solarion> can we get some love on bug #60544, please?
[06:58] <anon32> Lattyware, and if you just compare in speed (MS Office does *NOT* use java)
[06:58] <[Daniel] > davvs> Check "man bash" and search for "Special Parameters" for more info.
[06:58] <anon32> Lynoure, and freenode masks your lag
[06:58] <tsoler> nolie:???? how??
[06:58] <nolimitsoya> 18:56:20 <nolimitsoya> tsoler, if you want to transition, make a backup to another compyter/to dvdrw, remove the ntfs partition, make a smaller one, copy your windows only work to that, and make a linux partition for the rest
[06:59] <Lattyware> anon32: For me, they run at the same speed, as under linux, the rest of my system isn't 10x as slow.
[06:59] <davvs> [Daniel] > ok, yes i will :-)
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, you _can not_ move from ntfs to ext/whatever without loosing all the data!
[06:59] <tsoler> ok!!!
[06:59] <Lattyware> nolimitsoya: Unless you copy the data to an external device, and then copy it back.
[06:59] <iS`theoN> is it ok to ask a question in this channel or do I have to go to some kind of help channel?
[06:59] <[Daniel] > So storing BIOS clock in local time, anyone know how to do that in Edgy?
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> Lattyware, that is loosing data, only having backup ;)
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> iS`theoN, isn't that a question? :P
[06:59] <tsoler> ext3 has problems on reading from windows??
[06:59] <iS`theoN> :P
[06:59] <nolimitsoya> and that process i have explained two times now...
[06:59] <anon32> Lattyware, you're blinded by zealousy... ask any professional why he doesn't use OO.o
[06:59] <xipietotec> okay...I completely uninstalled kdm...but I still have the kubuntu logo on grub?
[07:00] <marshall__> Lattyware, ive got a web page organized with graphics in a table but i want a certain graphic to be in the background of the cell, i have given the cell the 'width' attribute but when i remove the image that was in it and put it into its background, the cell collapses
[07:00] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, ext3 can be read and written to from windows, but without journaling, and with questionable integrity control
[07:00] <anon32> tsoler, there are no issues with reading, only writing to ext3 with journal
[07:00] <iS`theoN> well I have problems with my ATI graphics card ( x850xt pe ) on ubuntu, when I try to configure it, my screen blanks out
[07:00] <iS`theoN> I read the forums but nothing really helped
[07:01] <Lattyware> marshall__: Use CSS to define the width of the cell, and to set the background image.
[07:01] <Lattyware> That should work.
[07:01] <tsoler> ok the first think is to mount from windows the ext3 partition and see how is it going?
[07:01] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, as said many times, try to separate the two systems as much as you can, leaning tasks that are alike towards one os
[07:01] <Lattyware> I don't think width attributes are actually valid anymore.
[07:01] <xipietotec> anyone have a clue how I can get the old ubuntu logo back on the grub screen? I think it may still be trying to open up kdm on boot...which is no longer there
[07:01] <marshall__> Lattyware, !! lol i didnt know i could set the width of a cell in css! whats the css attribute?
[07:02] <Lattyware> .class { width: Ypx; }
[07:02] <tsoler> nolie this can not be done right now
[07:02] <marshall__> yes!
[07:02] <Lattyware> #id { etc... }
[07:02] <marshall__> thank you!!
[07:02] <marshall__> XD
[07:02] <Lattyware> been so long since I have used a table for anything with a table :P
[07:02] <marshall__> lol
[07:02] <Lattyware> heh.
[07:02] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, then dont do anything untill you can :)
[07:02] <Lattyware> not at all.
[07:02] <marshall__> lol yeah i hear divs are the way to go
[07:02] <Lattyware> I use XHTML 1.0 Strict and CSS 100% of the time now a-days.
[07:02] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, pouring a lot of work into a bad sollution is just not a good thing to do
[07:03] <marshall__> Lattyware, do you ever have compatability issues?
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> It DOES make a bad idea more tolerable though.  You just have to add a few hacks here and there.
[07:03] <tsoler> im trying to figure out guys
[07:03] <xipietotec> anyone? I think grub is trying to load kdm (which is no longer existant on this computer) and also XGL still shows up as a session option despite the fact it's also no longer there
[07:04] <iS`theoN> hello I really need some help with ubuntu here :(
[07:04] <nolimitsoya> what are you trying to figure out?
[07:04] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: I have spent some hours getting an ATI card to work under a laptop running Debian, the inofficial ATI side helped me a lot to figure a bug: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[07:04] <anon32> Lattyware, why bother with the hacks, if people want to use a crappy browser, let it render crappily too
[07:04] <Lattyware> marshall__: http://www.lattyware.co.uk/ <- take a look at the code behind that.
[07:04] <marshall__> Lattyware, lol ie is web developer for dogshit
[07:04] <tsoler> what to do next
[07:04] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: you might wanna look through there to figure your combination of kernel/ATI driver version/etc
[07:04] <Zaggynl> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281569
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> There's a program to update GRUB...somewhere.
[07:04] <anon32> xipietotec, go edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:04] <dek> anyone got WMV videos streaming to work in Opera? They work in Konqueror with Xine plug-in
[07:04] <Lattyware> lol, yeah, I put big warning messages to IE users.
[07:04] <gh0st> hello, can i safely remove rhythmbox?
[07:05] <nolimitsoya> ok, here is the breakdown: ntfs can be read and written to with great drawbacks on linux, ext3 can be read and written to with  great drabacks from windows=dont read and write cross the two at all if you can help it
[07:05] <anon32> gh0st, yes, but you'll just have to install it again when you want to upgrade ubuntu
[07:05] <[Daniel] > Gosh, Ubuntu really is very very good.
[07:05] <boink> Music_Shuffle: man update-grub
[07:05] <[Daniel] > It's hard to believe it's a Linux distro :)
[07:05] <Lattyware> marshall__: I used to put everything behind a database, but you wouldn't belive how annoying it is to get code from a DB to be nice and valid.
[07:05] <marshall__> Lattyware, lol, how come you link the stylesheet that way?
[07:05] <gh0st> anon32: you mean dist-upgrade?
[07:05] <Music_Shuffle> boink, sooner or later I'm going to start remembering these names! >.<
[07:05] <anon32> [Daniel] , really? I find the dist-upgrade system VERY annoying (no incremental upgrades...)
[07:06] <Lattyware> marshall__: Just habit really, I don't think it makes any difference.
[07:06] <anon32> gh0st, yea
[07:06] <marshall__> Lattyware, you mean with the xhtml validator?
[07:06] <gh0st> anon32: i have my files and home folder on a separate partition; is it better to make a clean install?
[07:06] <Lynoure> Anyway, if there is something to ask for, makes sense to ask for it, somewhere. Otherwise OO will not evolve to that direction, because no one seems to miss a feature no one asked for
[07:06] <marshall__> Lattyware, ok
[07:06] <[Daniel] > anon32> I'm mainly thinking compared to Windows :)
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, that means, get yourself the facilities to do a full backup of all your data, and slipp the data in task you can accoplish in linux, and tasks you cant. then make partitions for that data, for the right operating system
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> *splitt
[07:07] <Lattyware> marshall__: I use PHP alot though, just writing some small backend stuff makes updating aload easier,
[07:07] <anon32> question: if my graphics card is too slow to render quickly, is there a way to make my CPU compensate with software rendering?
[07:07] <Lattyware> Even if it is just basically including a few files.
[07:07] <iS`theoN> cosmodad I even can't run the live cd properly
[07:07] <nolimitsoya> anon32, you can do either, but not at the same time
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Oh really?
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Him asking that made me get excited for a second.
[07:07] <nolimitsoya> btw, software rendering is painfully slow
[07:07] <Music_Shuffle> Heh
[07:07] <iS`theoN> when i try to run it, my screen blanks out
[07:07] <Lattyware> In fact, now-a-days, Python annoys me as I cannot split my code across multiple files.
[07:07] <anon32> [Daniel] , dunno, the only problem I've ever had with Windows is explorer.exe and the same upgrade issue
[07:07] <marshall__> Lattyware, ive been learning some php
[07:07] <anon32> nolimitsoya, :-(
[07:08] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: then you'll need to do some shell work
[07:08] <anon32> but parallele processing is so cool...
[07:08] <Music_Shuffle> is, you can't run the LiveCD at all?
[07:08] <[Daniel] > anon32 :)
[07:08] <marshall__> Lattyware, can i add you to msn or some other im?
[07:08] <Lattyware> marshall__: sure, I'll pm you.
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> anon32, get a sli/crossfire system then ;)
[07:08] <marshall__> ok
[07:08] <anon32> nolimitsoya, actually, you can get decent results with good rendering engines, and they're integrating graphics instructions into CPUs now
[07:08] <anon32> nolimitsoya, that costs more than an entire machine
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then its emulation, is it ;)
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> A good point.
[07:09] <nolimitsoya> *isnt
[07:09] <iS`theoN> cosmodad i'm sorry, but i'm quite new to linux, I already tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:09] <xipietotec> I don't see anything in menu.list that I have any idea what to do with, how can I get the kubuntu splash screen at grub to go away?
[07:09] <Lynoure> Nice swearing, anon32. You know you can ignore ctcps if two is enough to get you that upset
[07:09] <Yourname> Anything special I need to do to logon to a WPA2 network, when I have nm, (and have drviers installed with ndiswrapper) wpa_supplicant, linux-wlan-ng installed? Also, I installed everything and network-manager showed me wireless networks, but since I updated the kernel, now it's gone after reboot.. what could've have happened?
[07:09] <iS`theoN> then chose the vesa driver
[07:09] <Ademan_sleep> does ANYONE still use XFree86?
[07:09] <Music_Shuffle> Pick a different splash screen? >.>
[07:09] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: Yes
[07:09] <Ademan_sleep> hondje: who?
[07:10] <anon32> mm, pretty soon, graphics cards will be obsolete, just like sound cards
[07:10] <Chief> Does anyone have a  Intel GM855 Graphic Card?
[07:10] <Ademan_sleep> distro wise?
[07:10] <cosmodad> iS`theoN: if I had time, I'd try going through this with you step-by-step. Sadly, I have to go. Use the web page as a hint or try looking somewhere else
[07:10] <Lattyware> I want a new PC
[07:10] <anon32> Chief, lol? that's not even a graphics card
[07:10] <Lattyware> Semperon 1.6GHz. :'(
[07:10] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: Linux distrowise? I can't think of any linux distros that use it still
[07:10] <Music_Shuffle> Hah. ./Raises hand for a new PC. Me 2!
[07:10] <nolimitsoya> anon32, soundcards have never gone obsolete. neither will graphics cards. its always usefull to have many different processors, as longs as you can only bake a limited ammount of processing power into one chip :)
[07:11] <Ademan_sleep> hondje: BSD's use it then?
[07:11] <devout> any idea on what i can do to get "make [x|g|menu] config"
[07:11] <devout>              working on ubuntu?
[07:11] <devout> 6.06
[07:11] <anon32> nolimitsoya, sound cards are obsolete.... when's the last time you saw one outside of a gaming rig?
[07:11] <Lattyware> Could someone help with my two problems?: 1) My sound card works only sometimes, it fails to work until reboot at other times. 2) I loose my DNS server settings at boot (Static IP)
[07:11] <Ademan_sleep> devout: why are you building something from source?
[07:11] <hondje> Ademan_sleep: NetBSD does, FBSD has it as an option ... and I think Sarge might use it
[07:12] <Lattyware> anon32: I have one.
[07:12] <anon32> devout, why 3 lines?
[07:12] <fni> guys i'm trying to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 but i cant find it in the apt cache. any ideas?
[07:12] <gh0st> has anyone here *not* installed any KDE app nor amarok?
[07:12] <hondje> yeah, sarge has it, how funny :)
[07:12] <tsoler> ok nolie as i figure out it will cost me a hard drive of 100 gb just to start experimenting if if can or i f i cannot use ubuntu for my work
[07:12] <Music_Shuffle> Question: KDE or Gnome? I just discovered how to make Gnome less annoying...which makes it now a problem.
[07:12] <lostboyz> could someone please help me i have a webcam that works under the spca5xx driver but i am not able to send, only to see my picture on the computer. whenever i try to send with kopete or amsn it does not work
[07:12] <monitordawg> is there a pdf viewer included on the ubuntu 64 bit os?
[07:12] <Ademan_sleep> ew, i thought there was a whole anti-XFree86 uprising
[07:12] <anon32> Lattyware, and it didn't come with your PC did it?
[07:12] <Lattyware> anon32: no.
[07:12] <devout> Ademan_sleep: so i can get sound working, which it doesnt out of the box, and so i can hack the src
[07:12] <St_MPA3b> 10 Ubuntu CDs (10 PC Edition) are 10 equal CDs?
[07:12] <Chief> anon32: It is a oboard Graphic Card
[07:12] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, no itll just cost you a few dvdrw:s that you can use for backup later. you should always have a backuo sollution anyway
[07:13] <anon32> gh0st, very few of us, KDE is better than GNOME
[07:13] <nolimitsoya> tsoler, or you could borrow the space from someone else
[07:13] <Ademan_sleep> devout: what happens when you try and execute that command?
[07:13] <gh0st> if so could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all)
[07:13] <gh0st> anon32: that's your opinion
[07:13] <devout> Ademan_sleep: make[1] : *** No rule to make target `scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck', needed by `scripts/kconfig/qcon
[07:14] <Ademan_sleep> ah
[07:14] <anon32> Lattyware, but the thing is, most CPUs can decode sound as fast as a dedicated sound card
[07:14] <xipietotec> oh this is reaaalllll fun...I've got a bunch of library files and such in "local or obsolete" and if I want to remove them...I'll remove allmost all of my other files
[07:14] <anon32> gh0st, no... for anyone with experience using a computer, KDE is superior becuase it presents more customizable options
[07:14] <devout> Unable to find gtk, qt or for menuconfig just the checklist.o error
[07:14] <anon32> devout, what are you doing?
[07:15] <gh0st> anyway: if DIDN'T INSTALL KDE nor AMAROK: could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all)
[07:15] <devout> wanting to be able to config and compile the kernel so i can set up sound (which isnt working out of the box), and learn to hack kernel src
[07:15] <anon32> gh0st, go to amarok and read the dependencies
[07:15] <Lattyware> I think KDE is ugly.
[07:15] <Lattyware> No matter how you customise it
[07:15] <anon32> uninstall all the ones that don't break other apps
[07:15] <Ademan_sleep> gh0st: if you install through apt-get it will automatically get all of the dependancies for you
[07:16] <Arcad3> ur right lattyware
[07:16] <anon32> devout, #linux is better for that
[07:16] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Can anyone help me out with the syntax to restart the system at command prompt. 'sudo restart -h' doesn't work in ubuntu.
[07:16] <andresmujica> which is the best howto to follow for xgl/compiz at my laptop?
[07:16] <devout> aight
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, edgy keeps track of what dependencies arnt usefull anymore when you uninstall something, automaticaly
[07:16] <Ademan_sleep> gh0st: oh wait, sorry, i read that wrong
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> Ademan_sleep, I think he wants to REMOVE it.
[07:16] <Ademan_sleep> yeah :-)
[07:16] <iamtheobject> well I edited my mouse in the xorg.conf but all the buttons are in the wrong place now haha
[07:16] <anon32> Lattyware, I find GNOME ugly, it's a matter of taste
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> baxter_kylie: sudo shutdown -r now
[07:16] <Arcad3> try reboot Baxter
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> sudo poweroff also works :)
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> gh0st, try this?
[07:16] <ianmacgregor> baxter_kylie: man shutdown
[07:16] <Music_Shuffle> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Requirements
[07:17] <Yourname> sudo mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0 -> How can I set that permanently?
[07:17] <anon32> nolimitsoya, really? that alone is enough reason for me to upgrade to edgy...
[07:17] <Ademan_sleep> kde is crap, but Qt is great, and Gtk+ sucks yet GNOME rules lol
[07:17] <nolimitsoya> anon32, yes edgy is a great step forward in every respect :)
[07:17] <anon32> Yourname, add it to a boot script?
[07:17] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: yeah, but i use dapper and apt-get
[07:17] <Yourname> anon32: So, that command.. it's temporary, right?
[07:17] <anon32> Ademan_sleep, what makes KDE crap?
[07:18] <Arcad3> how i upgrade to edgy
[07:18] <Arcad3> ?
[07:18] <anon32> nolimitsoya, except that it still won't allow for f-ing incremental upgrades
[07:18] <tyler_d> I have made the mistake of removing my home directory off of ubuntu(was on a different partition) now I need to put it on the same partition as the OS. anyone know the commands to do so?
[07:18] <ianmacgregor> Take the KDE complaints to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[07:18] <baxter_kylie> Thanks all.
[07:18] <Ademan_sleep> anon32: opinion :-), KDE feels like an information overload to me
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, yes, i just thought id let you know, in case you might get inspired to upgrade :)
[07:18] <tsoler> nolie can i make a copy paste from ntfs to ext3 - just very few experimental files- to see if i a can work from ubuntu??
[07:18] <Nem1> My logitech mouse has some special buttons that can,t work on Ubuntu.Is there any driver i can install??
[07:18] <Ademan_sleep> noooooo ianmacgregor
[07:18] <anon32> Yourname, I don't know, the way you said it, it made me assume it was
[07:18] <anon32> !edgy > Arcad3
[07:18] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: i'm waiting for final ;-)
[07:18] <nolimitsoya> anon32, if you want that you are in the wrong irc channel, using the wrong dist
[07:18] <Arcad3> !edgy
[07:18] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:18] <Arcad3> !schedule
[07:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:19] <anon32> tyler_d, um, cp (profile) /home ?
[07:19] <dek> anyone got WMV videos streaming to work in Opera? They work in Konqueror with Xine plug-in
[07:19] <Samuli^> Neml, try a searching with your mousetype on the www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:19] <tyler_d> anon32: cannot cp... profile is gone right
[07:19] <anon32> nolimitsoya, bah..
[07:19] <anon32> when you have to spend 3 weeks to download a new version, that's a major disincentiuve
[07:19] <togga> hi all. i've upgraded dapper->edgy and the new Nautilus does no longer show files in the list-view, only icon-view. Is this something known?
[07:19] <tyler_d> anon32: need to re-create in the a different location
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: in the process of recovering the old one... just want it to work now!!
[07:20] <Samuli^> Nem1, try searching with your mousetype on www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:20] <Music_Shuffle> Question: If I have gaim/kopete open on two different sessions of KDE/Gnome or any combination thereof, how will my received messages be displayed?
[07:20] <anon32> tyler_d, forget it, just make a new user
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: commands?
[07:20] <nolimitsoya> anon32, no, im serious. thats part of the plan, to keep things stable. us you realy want bleedning edgy packages, you are using the wrong dist for the wrong reasons. incremental updates where never part of the plan, and will never be implemented.
[07:20] <anon32> tyler_d, adduser (username)
[07:20] <tyler_d> anon32: ty mang..
[07:21] <imperfect-> Anyone know where I can get a vmlinuz and initrd of <IP_ADDRESS> to try to fix my edgy install so it will work on my box?
[07:22] <togga> imperfect-: www.kernel.org
[07:22] <anon32> nolimitsoya, but see, the point of an upgrade that takes so long to perform that a new version becomes available is lost on me
[07:22] <imperfect-> imperfect- : for precompiled stuff?
[07:22] <Warbo> togga: Those don't have Ubuntu patches, etc. applied
[07:22] <nolimitsoya> anon32, then you are, again, using the wrong dist. try another one that is more to your liking :)
[07:22] <imperfect-> Warbo: i dont need the patchs.. I'm using a rescue cd int he hopes of getting lilo installed since grub is all broke with mine
[07:23] <anon32> Warbo, well... that's too bad isn't it?
[07:23] <Warbo> as far as I know the initrd is created when the package linux-image-version is installed, so merely downloading the package file would only give vmlinuz
[07:23] <anon32> nolimitsoya, meh....
[07:23] <anon32> I only use ubuntu because it's free (in price)
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> anon32, so is gentoo ;)
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> seriously, you shouldnt use a distro that doesnt satisfy your desires...
[07:24] <anon32> nolimitsoya, no it isn't... bandwidth costs money, a lot of it
[07:24] <Rookie_> !icop
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> anon32, just as much as an upgrade to edgy :)
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> !pcop
[07:24] <togga> Warbo: i know. but it's going to be hard anyway to create an <IP_ADDRESS> edgy kernel. probably harder if he wants the patches. maybe an inotify patch for <IP_ADDRESS> should do it..
[07:24] <nolimitsoya> !ipcop
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipcop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <KenSentMe> !info ipcop
[07:24] <ubotu> Package ipcop does not exist in any distro I know
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> www.ipcop.org
[07:25] <anon32> lo
[07:25] <anon32> Warbo, yes... and Win2000 was supported until earlier this year... doesn't mean it was useful until then
[07:26] <rbil> anon32, what's wrong with W2K?  RHEL has a really long release cycle
[07:27] <anon32> rbil, sorry, bad comparison, replace with Win98
[07:27] <black_13> which release of ubuntu would have a gcc3 and xorg?
[07:27] <XVampireX> !build
[07:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:27] <junky> if ive 2 sounds cards, how can i change which card will be used, without having to reboot? cause now, ive to run alsaconf, then to reboot, id like to avoid that step.
[07:27] <rbil> junky, should be able to select in amixer
[07:27] <Warbo> black_13: All of them I think. Install the package "gcc-3.4" to get GCC 3.x and xorg is "xserver-xorg"
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> anon32, seriously, again, the gentoo minimal install is like 100mb, and a full install would probably be alot smaller a downloadnthan an upgrade to edgy, which still is an operating system you arent satified with :)
[07:28] <gh0st> if you DIDN'T INSTALL KDE nor AMAROK: could you tell me WHICH packages it wants to install when you want to install amarok? (i do want to remove them all) (ON SYNAPTIC)
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone...KDE user?
[07:28] <black_13> i have to have gcc-3 compiler for the project i working with
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> How do I setup programs to start on login with KDE?
[07:28] <Warbo> junky: You shouldn't need to reboot. Try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" (or whatever the ALSA startup script is called) instead of rebooting
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, mark in, press install, and it will tell you
[07:28] <Music_Shuffle> For Gnome its just..preferences --> Sessions and the option is under there. Where's it in KDE?
[07:29] <black_13> Warboi want to have xorg for easier configuration of the touch screen im using
[07:29] <anon32> Warbo, only pointing out the flaw in your "but it'll have lots of support"
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, if you dont want to install those, just dont press apply, thats all :)
[07:29] <gh0st> nolimitsoya: problem is i want to REMOVE it with ALL DEPENDENCIES
[07:29] <MikeyMike>  quick question..... if you ping your lan ip (192.168.1.x) and disconnect yourself from the router will the connection stop or will it continue like loopback (internally pinged)
[07:29] <anon32> gh0st, we already told you, go into synaptic, read the dependencies, and remove as many as you can
[07:29] <Dekkard> are the mplayer plugin/totem plugins broken?
[07:29] <Warbo> black_13: as in GCC 3.0, or 3.anything?
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, then you have been instructed already :)
[07:29] <gh0st> anon32: but i already installed it but i want to REMOVE everything kde related
[07:29] <black_13> Warbo 3.3.x would be for the best
[07:30] <gh0st> remove not install
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> So do it...
[07:30] <Hooveyy> morning 2 u all :p
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> Hai.
[07:30] <Warbo> gh0st: In the future try to use Aptitude, it remembers the dependencies
[07:30] <gh0st> Warbo: i know that's what i use now
[07:30] <Warbo> !info gcc-3.3
[07:30] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, read the dependecies, and remove them. what dont ju understand?
[07:30] <ubotu> gcc-3.3: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-10 (dapper), package size 535 kB, installed size 4264 kB
[07:30] <gh0st> but still i installed amarok 3 months ago
[07:30] <Music_Shuffle> How to configure programs to start on login with KDE...anyone?
[07:30] <anon32> gh0st, DO NOT REPEAT YOUR QUESTION - read the dependencies, manually uninstall them all
[07:30] <black_13> Warbo i am provided with the kernel modules from a 3rd part hardware vendor
[07:31] <junky> rbil, warbo: even, if i run alsaconf, select my other card, run alsaconf restart, the output is still on the "old" card, not the new one.
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, kdm
[07:31] <Warbo> black_13: Looks like the package gcc-3.3 contains it. I'd use Dapper (6.06) if I were you. It uses Xorg, as do all releases I think
[07:31] <black_13> Warbo no provide with source
[07:31] <St_MPA3b> What's better for newb linuxoid - KDE or Gnom?
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> KDM?
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, sry, dissregard that. i read your question wrong :P
[07:31] <anon32> gh0st, get this through your head - click on dependencies tab - search for each entry - select "remove"
[07:31] <black_13> Warbo isnt dapper the latest?
[07:31] <gh0st> anon32, nolimitsoya: are these ALL that were installed with amarok? if so, fine, and thanks
[07:31] <Warbo> junky: Where did you get alsaconf from? I didn't think that was included anymore
[07:31] <Hooveyy> Gnome is cooler than KDE :)
[07:31] <Music_Shuffle> Ok. Now that you re-read it...got any ideas? xD
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> gh0st, yes
[07:32] <black_13> Hooveyy infidel!
[07:32] <Warbo> black_13: Well it is the most stable one. Edgy is still full of problems (from what I hear)
[07:32] <Hooveyy> XGL / Compiz is the hardest thing to get working
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, isnt there a tool for it? there is in xfce
[07:32] <Hooveyy> It never freakin` works!
[07:32] <anon32> gh0st, if you don't trust apt, then don't use i
[07:32] <gh0st> but what if it breaks something
[07:32] <junky> warbo: it was from http://www.ubuntux.org/sound-card-not-detected
[07:32] <St_MPA3b> what Linux distrib is better for newb linuxoid ^_^? I'm not a total noob, but i know almost nothink bout Linux
[07:32] <Hooveyy> Apt wont break something ..
[07:32] <Music_Shuffle> I don't know, I found the one in Gnome...but I have no idea where in KDE.
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, in settings, i have a post called autostarted applications
[07:32] <Hooveyy> Trust the cow, ghost!
[07:32] <Warbo> St_MPA3b: Welcome to Ubuntu :)
[07:32] <Hooveyy> It has super cow powers!
[07:32] <Artemis3> moo?
 Dling it right now ^_^
[07:32] <gh0st> anon32: it does not automatically mean that all depencies listed where installed WITH amarok, but perhaps before
[07:32] <Dekkard> hm
[07:33] <black_13> Warbo next qestion the componay i work with provides me a kernel for ther hardware its 2.6.10 derivative
[07:33] <Hooveyy> "apt-get moo
[07:33] <anon32> Warbo, if it's full of problems, why the hell is it labeled as a release candidate?
[07:33] <Hooveyy> "
[07:33] <nolimitsoya> St_MPA3b, mepis
[07:33] <anon32> St_MPA3b, get gentoo
[07:33] <Dekkard> is there an ubuntu-multimedia channel?
[07:33] <tabber> how do i change the symlink of one file so that it links to another file?
[07:33] <nolimitsoya> St_MPA3b, dissregardanon32, hes taking a piss
[07:33] <Warbo> anon32: If Dapper was released as a final, stable version then why is there 6.06.1?
[07:33] <black_13> i want to make sure that i have the right kernel headers for this kernel im conceredn about getting the kernel headers for 2.6.10
[07:33] <anon32> gh0st, go uninstall all the ones you can, those are the ones that amarok installed
[07:33] <gh0st> ok
[07:34] <anon32> when you find one that breaks stuff when removing, skip over it
[07:34] <anon32> Warbo, .1 is a security fix
[07:34] <Warbo> tabber: "ln -sf /path/to/real/file/you/want/to/point/to /path/to/link/you/want/to/change"
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, under settings in the KDE menu?!
[07:34] <Frantic`> Is there a console multiuser runlevel for ubuntu???
[07:34] <Warbo> anon32: exactlyt
[07:34] <ompaul> Warbo, because it gets updates - and will do for the next few years - LTS long term support
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> (and "small" 200mb buggfix)
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> Music_Shuffle, no, xfce :)
[07:34] <junky> Warbo: how can i force the reload of /etc/modprobe.d/sound exactly? alsaconf restart isnt doing that?
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> i said i dont know about kde
[07:34] <ompaul> Frantic`, it does not work that way, it works like you install it you want to run it?
[07:34] <Warbo> ompaul: I know, I know. Just trying to calm anon32 down a bit
[07:34] <tabber> Warbo: thanks, i'll give it a try
[07:34] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, ./Sigh. And here I thought I was going blind. xD
[07:34] <anon32> Warbo, I consider it final and stable if it doesn't crash
[07:35] <Frantic`> ompaul, i'm just trying to install my nvidia drivers
[07:35] <Frantic`> they won't install while x is running, or in single user mode
[07:35] <anon32> ompaul, what do the updates mean if they're just the same version with patches for bugs?
[07:35] <black_13> warbo what is the "alternate install cd" for?
[07:35] <Warbo> Frantic`: You can switch to a console with ctrl-alt-f1 then login and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to turn off X
[07:36] <Hooveyy> ..KDE is the devil ;(
[07:36] <Frantic`> ty Warbo
[07:36] <anon32> black_13, situations when you want a custom install
[07:36] <nolimitsoya> black_13, its a textbased installer for doing wicked things with lvm, and the like
[07:36] <lnx^> heya guys
[07:36] <anon32> i.e. automated, upgrade install, net install, etc
[07:36] <black_13> how custom is custom?
[07:36] <Warbo> black_13: That has a text based installer for those systems where the graphical live CD won't run (not enough RAM, etc.), and it also contains all of the packages needed to install, rather than downloading some. Also it's partitioner allows LVM and stuff to be used
[07:36] <leocoutinho1987> Somebody could help me with my modem connection in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:36] <lnx^> i've got a slight problem
[07:36] <lnx^> i just received an e-mail with an attachment
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> black_13, the desktop cd gives you _very_ basic options, not as to confuse newcommers
[07:37] <black_13> i see
[07:37] <lnx^> however, for some reason the attachment shows up as ASCII code at the end of the message instead of being a real 'attachment'
[07:37] <anon32> !modem > leocoutinho1987
[07:37] <lg> HI! I gotta install the pkg libxerces26-dev; have I simply to type 'sudo apt-get install libxerces26-dev
[07:37] <lg> ' ?
[07:37] <Warbo> lnx^: "my_picture.jpg.exe" should not be run :)
[07:37] <black_13> well i want gcc3 2.6.10 kernel headers and xorg
[07:37] <lnx^> Warbo: haha no it's not like that
[07:37] <black_13> thats pretty much it
[07:37] <Dekkard> lol
[07:37] <imperfect-> Is there a way to get the LIVECD look and feel from an alternate install?
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> black_13, that can be done post install
[07:37] <lnx^> it's just a normal .doc file from a friend of mine
[07:37] <black_13> i got you
[07:37] <Rookie_> !phpPasswordManager
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpPasswordManager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, what do you mean?
[07:38] <lnx^> i believe that the friend's e-mail client is broken or something
[07:38] <leocoutinho1987> hello annon
[07:38] <anon32> black_13, considered gentoo? with ubuntu, what you see is what you get
[07:38] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: well when I install from alternate cd
[07:38] <anon32> imperfect-, no, use the live cd for that
[07:38] <madflax> Can anyone direct me to how to install newer alsa-drivers? thus on apt is 1.0.11 and they ain't cooking right!
[07:38] <lnx^> i see stuff like: Content-Type: application/msword; name="Returning World.doc"
[07:38] <Dekkard> oh gawd he said gentoo!
[07:38] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: there's no splash screen, nothing works... etc
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, the alternate is textbased only
[07:38] <lnx^> and lines like: 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB
[07:38] <imperfect-> I get that
[07:38] <black_13> it has to have the debian package manager
[07:38] <Warbo> black_13: If it is a custom kernel then I would say get the full source installed rather than just the headers. That can be done manually from kernel.org or whatever if needed
[07:38] <lnx^> is there any way i could convert that back to a binary file?
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> imperfect-, then you didnt install the right packages :)
[07:38] <imperfect-> but grub doesnt support my hardware so I'm stuck bhaving to use the alternate to get a booting system
[07:38] <lnx^> i'm sure it's not a virus
[07:39] <black_13> Warbo unfortunatle the kernel is supplied by the hardware vendor
[07:39] <imperfect-> nolimitsoya: well it doesn't ask me for anything
[07:39] <lnx^> i tried just copypasting the stuff into a .doc file and running it but it (obviously) doesn't work
[07:39] <Warbo> black_13: That's not unfortunate, since it means you know exactly what kernel you should be using :) (as long as it has source for the kernel you are OK)
[07:39] <junky> how can i force the reload of /etc/modprobe.d/sound exactly? alsaconf restart isnt doing that?  cause i need to reboot, and id like to avoid taht step
[07:39] <Artemis3> ask vendor for ubuntu compile :)
[07:40] <aoupi> how do I make sure the module pcspkr isn't loaded on boot time? (or how do I permanently disable system beep?)
[07:40] <Warbo> aoupi: blacklist it
[07:40] <Warbo> !blacklist
[07:40] <ompaul> Frantic`,  read the howto on help.ubuntu.com just search for nvidia - it works
[07:40] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[07:40] <black_13> this is a motherboard for the gaming (gambling) industry and the people who make it spend lots of effort software devel but they dont let there customr have the source
[07:40] <aoupi> Warbo: thx
[07:40] <Music_Shuffle> nolimitsoya, I think I found a way. ^^
[07:40] <Bernardo> hi
[07:40] <black_13> Warbo the are try to protect there investment
[07:40] <krunchi1920> hi everybody, can anybody help me about lucent soft modem installation on ubuntu 6.06
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: I mean the Linux kernel source which corresponds to the kernel they have supplied
[07:41] <lnx^> is anyone aware of a way of converting ASCII back to binary, if that's even possible?
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: I don't mean their own drivers/software
[07:41] <Bernardo> anyone can help me with squid and edgy? I had it working in dapper
[07:41] <tsoler> nolie?
[07:41] <black_13> they provide a monolith kernel not all drivers
[07:41] <Warbo> black_13: Besides, if they don't then they are violating the GPL since giving you a Linux kernel without source is illegal
[07:41] <madflax> If i take gasoline on the drivers will that work? maybe some dynamite will do the tright after I ninja chopped it
[07:41] <tsoler> ubuntu just found a gis program
[07:42] <Artemis3> good point lets sue those gamblers
[07:42] <tsoler> ubuntu is based on debian or not?
[07:42] <ompaul> tsoler, it is to an extent
[07:42] <black_13> Warbo i dont want to get into a gpl war it would impede my paychecks
[07:42] <Artemis3> hahaha
[07:42] <ompaul> !namespam > Yourname
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about namespam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <Artemis3> just tell them to provide you an ubuntu compile already
[07:42] <Warbo> black_13: I was just saying that for Ubuntu kernels there is a corresponding "linux-headers" package, since not the entire source is needed to compile modules, but for custom kernels I would recommend installing it's full source
[07:42] <Ademan_sleep> is cmake any good?
[07:43] <madflax> comon ppl.. which driver to use.. alsa-base 1.0.12 or does even the 1.0.13 work in ubuntu?
[07:43] <tsoler> ompaul what do u mean?
[07:43] <black_13> i dont inted to customize the kernel just use theirs
[07:43] <karabatak> hi every body
[07:43] <Warbo> madflax: Generally any Linux software/driver will work in Ubuntu. the real question is "which would be easiest?"
[07:43] <ompaul> tsoler, exactly what I said, most of it comes from debian, then it has some bug fixing done then it is released
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> my lucent modem in wvdial says "carrier detected, waiting for prompt" e don't connects... what I could do ?
[07:44] <Artemis3> binary drivers are the cause for lockups and vulnerabilities
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> the howto don't cover this problem
[07:44] <Warbo> black_13: It doesn't matter that much really, just speaking from my experience
[07:44] <karabatak> who know callback configuration  for wvdial?
[07:44] <Artemis3> so this "protecting their invesment" is moot
[07:44] <savje> hi! I have a problem, I just installed Ubunut on my laptop, a couple days ago, and I've notice that the computer 'locks' or hang-up and nothing is responding except when I press "space" and then the computer goes back to normal but to the state it was when it locked... So if the computer locks at 15:00 and I press "space" at 16:00 the computer clock still is 15:00... Is this a well known problem and do anyone know how to solve it?
[07:44] <leocoutinho1987> me
[07:45] <karabatak> could you tell me
[07:45] <Lubix> hi
[07:45] <black_13> Warbo i understand why they dont provide the source this company does something that revolutionary they put something in kernel that most other places put in user space if it works my life will be much easier
[07:45] <madflax> Warbo, well the current doesn't detect my s-pdif.. or maybe im barking on the wrong tree. maybe I have to enable it somewhere, I don't have a clue myself.. hopfully someone here does.'
[07:45] <black_13> Warbo if there technology got out they would be ruined they are bout 6 guys
[07:45] <ompaul> black_13, are you in the middle of a non support conversation?
[07:45] <Artemis3> hmp, all gamblers say the same :p
[07:45] <willdev> help!
[07:45] <willdev> ive forgoton my password
[07:46] <ompaul> Artemis3, to whom are you talking?
[07:46] <black_13> ompaul sorry what?
[07:46] <Warbo> black_13: I am not concerned with the details really, I was just trying to offer a bit of advice because whenever I have tried to build stuff against a custom kernel I have always needed to install the source
[07:46] <madflax> But the chanses that anyone here now anything slim about alsa and spdif are very slim im afraid!
[07:46] <ompaul> black_13, this is not a discussion channel - you appear to be in conversation we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting about all sorts of stuff
[07:46] <Warbo> madflax: Is there a #alsa you could ask in?
[07:46] <black_13> sorry i got off subject thank for the help
[07:47] <madflax> Warbo, don
[07:47] <ompaul> !test
[07:47] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:47] <black_13> ompaul hall monitor
[07:47] <KenSentMe> willdev: reboot, login in recovery mode and change your password with passwd <username>
[07:47] <andresmujica> Hi, anyone can point me to an official xgl howto for dapper?  or a well tested guide?
[07:47] <lnx^> so how do i open an attachment like the one i described?
[07:47] <ompaul> black_13, a little more than that :)
[07:47] <ladydoor> !xgl
[07:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:47] <imperfect-> wow
[07:47] <Lubix> i got a question, how long did it take you to master bash?
[07:47] <willdev> kk thanks
[07:47] <imperfect-> I just totally cheated
[07:47] <Lubix> im learning it now and wanna know
[07:48] <lg> can I install more pks with just one apt-get issue?
[07:48] <Warbo> lnx^: It seems to be a Word document, so save it and open it with OpenOffice or Abiword of Kwrite
[07:48] <karabatak> who know callback configuration  for wvdial?
[07:48] <imperfect-> alternate didnt work right, so i installed w/ live cd-- went back w/ alternate installed base over the desktop... now i dont have a splash screen but the machine works like desktop ;)
[07:48] <Warbo> lg: Yup. "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 etc"
[07:48] <KenSentMe> lg: i think you can just use spaces between names
[07:48] <rbil> where can I see the terms that ubotu knows about?
[07:48] <lg> Thnx!
[07:48] <ladydoor> lnx^: or better yet, with antiword or something
[07:48] <Lubix> how long did it take folks to learn bash shell
[07:49] <andresmujica> tks
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !bots > rbil
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <meatface> Hello all!
[07:49] <KenSentMe> !bot > rbil
[07:49] <Warbo> lg: The cool thing is that a minus "-" will remove and a plus "+" will add, so "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3-" will actually remove package3, and + will install in a "remove" command
[07:49] <madflax> Warbo, well not much action in that #alsa channel..
[07:49] <lnx^> Warbo: yes, but for some reason Thunderbird doesn't show it up as an attachment at all
[07:49] <lnx^> Warbo: it is simply ASCII at the end of the message
[07:50] <Warbo> !info evolution
[07:50] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 4586 kB, installed size 34184 kB
[07:50] <lg> Thnx aagin!
[07:50] <lnx^> haha :P no but it isn't a client-specific problem
[07:50] <Hooveyy> Xubuntu uses xfwm, right?
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:50] <lnx^> the sender just did something wrong
[07:50] <ExilE> can someone help me i just installed ubuntu and are having problems with ati graphics I went to site to download driver but I don't know if ubuntu uses xfree86 or x.org or which version please be kind i am a noob at this.
[07:50] <nolimitsoya> Hooveyy, yes it does :)
[07:51] <Hooveyy> Ah okay, thanks
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> my ubuntu don't connect, somebody could help me ?
[07:51] <Hooveyy> Connect to..?
[07:51] <noxxle> is there a gui for Wine??
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[07:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:51] <nolimitsoya> !ati > ExilE
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> modem, internet
[07:51] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: You'll have to be a bit more specific, that could refer to anything
[07:51] <Warbo> oh
[07:51] <ExilE> thanks a lot.
[07:51] <leocoutinho1987> sorry
[07:51] <ThomBrown> anyone know how to enlarge the menu fonts of amarok??
[07:51] <nolimitsoya> !wine > noxxle
[07:51] <meatface> noxxle, I do not think that there is a gui for wine.
[07:51] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: Broadband or dialup, internal or external, serial, USB or ethernet?
[07:52] <ExilE> !ati
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <noxxle> !wine
[07:52] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:52] <ThomBrown> anyone know how to enlarge the menu fonts of amarok??
[07:52] <lnx^> Warbo: i mean, i have the same problem even if i forward the message to gmail
[07:53] <meatface> noxxle, I am using wine at this moment to intall a windows based program. It is relatively simple to use
[07:53] <Warbo> ThomBrown: That would be a KDE setting, go in kcontrol (or install it if you are in GNOME)
[07:53] <noxxle> yes, but i wish it was easier to launch the programs it installs
[07:53] <rob_p> Lubix, Just use it... you'll learn it as you go.
[07:53] <noxxle> plus you need to find dlls on the net for programs
[07:53] <kristjin> I have mounted a hard drive using fstab and the command "/dev/sdc1	/media/sdc1	ext3	defaults	0	0" and it does come up on my desktop at start up but when I try to copy files to the drive, I get the error message "Error while copying to '/media/sdc1'. You do not have permissions to write to this folder."  I have already done a chmod 777 on the /media/sdc1 folder and that isn't the problem.  Any suggestions?
[07:53] <leocoutinho1987> my lucent v90 in ubuntu 6.06 don't connect, the wvdial  after dial, makin' the sounds of the modem... don't connect and says "carrier detected, waiting for prompt" and don't connect
[07:53] <Rookie_> !exton
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <noxxle> is there a big dll package i can get?
[07:54] <Warbo> lnx^: I am pretty bad with email, so maybe direct it to the channel again (I can't even send mail from Evolution because Yahoo! doesn't let me :( )
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, is it ntfs?
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> forget that >_<
[07:54] <Warbo> leocoutinho1987: Is that an interal modem?
[07:54] <krunchi1920> l leocoutinho1987 if you wanna help others why should other you
[07:54] <kristjin> No, I formatted it this morning to ext3.
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> saw it was ext3...
[07:54] <Hooveyy> xUbuntu is so pretty....
[07:54] <leocoutinho1987> oh thaks
[07:54] <clandestino> Hi. Does anybody know how I can run a certain command  (chmod g+s) recursively on all subdirectories without touching any files in the directories?
[07:54] <nolimitsoya> Hooveyy, i agree :)
[07:54] <leocoutinho1987> *thanks
[07:54] <kristjin> I got my ntfs drive working the other day, though.
[07:55] <kristjin> Hooray.  :)
[07:55] <madflax> TheGateKeeper, I've read that.. it lacks alot of information.. for example.. if I compile alsa myself.. do I have to remove the already installed alsa-drivers.. and what about all the other packages. like the newer alsa-utils and stuff..
[07:55] <lg> Can you tell me what's the meaning of this: nonrootuser@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install fftw-dev Reading package lists... Done
[07:55] <lg> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:55] <lg> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:55] <lg> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:55] <lg> E: Couldn't find package fftw-dev
[07:56] <maxkelley> how do I type special characters in ubuntu?
[07:56] <maxkelley> lg: type sudo apt-get update
[07:56] <Warbo> lg: Run "sudo apt-get update"
[07:56] <graveson> i would like to rename quite a few of my directories - is there a command for this.i need to remove all the whitespaces
[07:56] <lg> ok thnx
[07:56] <noxxle> what codec works for real media files??
[07:57] <Warbo> maxkelley: Try Application>Accessories>Character Map
[07:57] <Xenguy_> graveson: krename is a nice GUI app
[07:57] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: the problem is that the devs have decided to remove alsaconf, when I asked them about this they told me if there is a problem is to report it as a bug
[07:57] <maxkelley> Warbo: is there a keyboard shortcut?
[07:57] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:57] <Warbo> graveson: Check out "krename" (you can run it in GNOME too)
[07:57] <Warbo> maxkelley: No idea, sorry
[07:57] <MadCowBoy> Hi there, I have a question... One of My drives (/hda1) is mounting no problem, but is appearing as ; (semi-colon) on the desktop, I don;t know how or why this happened, and I can;t figure out how to resolve this problem,
[07:57] <graveson> thanks guys
[07:57] <maxkelley> thanksn  anyways.
[07:57] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[07:58] <madflax> another question when u think about my prior... how do I access files from a XP shared drive.. do I have to install anything on the windows machine or anythin on the ubuntu pc?
[07:58] <Xenguy_> !codecs > noxxle
[07:58] <Warbo> madflax: Check out Samba
[07:58] <MadCowBoy> madflax, look into samba
[07:58] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: I am not sure what the nature of your problem is, choices seem to be 1. Report problem as a bug, 2. Find a dev that can help you, or 3. Change distro
[07:59] <madflax> Warbo, is samba preinstaled on edgy?
[07:59] <kristjin> Does anyone have any suggestions about what might be going wrong on this drive?
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux <- se if it helps
[07:59] <Hooveyy> wow, the dropline neu icon set is very very nice
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> have you done a chown?
[07:59] <leocoutinho1987> krunchi > is a softmodem, i don't know what is happenin'
[07:59] <Warbo> madflax: I don't know. I think it needs a little configuring anyway, but I have never used it myself and I am hopeless at networking
[08:00] <madflax> TheGateKeeper, where do one find a dev.. ? they doesn't seem to lurk around here! :(
[08:00] <do_kev> has anybody ever had problems with Shockwave?  I'm trying to navigate the sidebar for my course (which is a shockwave app), but the text is either showing up in white on a white background, or not at all.
[08:00] <kristjin> I already followed the instructions here: http://www.smorgasbord.net/how_to_install_second_hard_drive_ubuntu_linux
[08:00] <leocoutinho1987> krunchi> i 've configurated usin' the howto, the modem works well but I don't know what's happenin' with wvdial
[08:00] <lg> ehm, I forgot to say: I'm using a 56k..is the apt-get update feasable?
[08:00] <kristjin> And haven't been able to resolve this.
[08:00] <Warbo> do_kev: Shockwave is a grey area on Linux...
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, but have you donw chown, and not just chmod?
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> *done
[08:01] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:01] <do_kev> Warbo: Thanks.  It's not the end of the world, so I guess I'll just play around with it and hope for the best.
[08:01] <Warbo> lg: apt-get update just downloads the LIXTS of available packages, so yes it is fine (apt-get upgrade would upgrade every package, which would be a nightmare on 56k :) )
[08:02] <TheGateKeeper> madflax: they do, you have to ask, and hope one comes to help you
[08:02] <MadCowBoy> Hi there, I have a question... One of My drives (/hda1) is mounting no problem, but is appearing as ; (semi-colon) on the desktop, I don;t know how or why this happened, and I can;t figure out how to resolve this problem, Ive switched up my fstab, to no avail, and I can't find a solution on any internet searches I am doing...
[08:03] <colder4545> i know there are some file shredders out there, but do any shred the free space (ie previously deleted files)?
[08:03] <lg> ok!
[08:03] <madflax> I read in a forum where a guy was so upset he ninja chopped his pc.. and then wanted to ninja chop pretty much everything.. I hope I'll not come to the ninjachop syndrome! :)
[08:03] <kristjin> No, and I hear chown is dangerous.
[08:03] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, try 'sudo chown -R username:username /folder', where username is *gasp* your username ;) and folder is the folder your drive is mounted in
[08:03] <lg> I've been shivering.. ;-)
[08:03] <kristjin> Alright...
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, no it isnt, it just makes you the owner of everything in a folder, and with the -R it makes you the owner of everything beneath it
[08:04] <[H] 3b0R> damn why am i getting banned from #cedega!?
[08:04] <madflax> Any developers here that care to help a poor sod with his ubuntu problem?
[08:04] <kristjin> I'm trusting you on this, nolimitsoya.. I saw someone get chastised for suggesting this once... :)
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> ^ ^
[08:04] <ladydoor> !language
[08:04] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <kristjin> Thanks for the help!
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> did it work?
[08:04] <willdev> is there a guide to upgrade to edgy?
[08:05] <KenSentMe> !upgrade > willdev
[08:06] <colder4545> willdev, i just followed the edgy news link off of http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <willdev> i got it thanks :)
[08:06] <colder4545> will dev, works great unless you have custom packages that don't have edgy repos (like compiz)
[08:06] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, any luck?
[08:06] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:06] <ScreaminIke> i just hard-powerd down my machine, brought it back up, and the partition table is HOSED . is there a recovery tool for this?
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> ScreaminIke, what file system?
[08:07] <Warbo> ScreaminIke: gpart
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> uhm... ext2, i believe
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> sry, partitiontable...
[08:07] <nolimitsoya> then you are screwed :)
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> yea
[08:07] <Warbo> !info gpart
[08:07] <[Daniel] > SceaminIke> Ouch
[08:07] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[08:07] <ScreaminIke> i knew i should have been journaling
[08:08] <[Daniel] > ScreaminIke> gpart sounds like your ticket
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> i'm going to get a copy of spinrite, i guess
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> gpart?
[08:08] <fangorious> just asked in #gl with no response. My multimedia gnome keybindings (set from gnome-keybinding-properties) don't seem to work in gl+ompiz as they did in org+metaity
[08:08] <ScreaminIke> how?
[08:08] <kristjin> Well, it didn't say anything after I did the chown, so, we'll see... hang on...
[08:09] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, do a chmod -755 afterwards :)
[08:09] <rojoneck> hello
[08:09] <[Daniel] > ScreaminIke> I'm guessing based on what ubotu said just above, but I'm thinking run a live CD, enable "universe" package repository, sudo apt-get install gpart
[08:10] <rojoneck> is kernel generic the default kernek for ubuntu 6.10?
[08:10] <kristjin> Oh really?
[08:10] <nolimitsoya> rojoneck, yes :)
[08:10] <kristjin> On which, the mount folder, or the drive itself?
[08:10] <nolimitsoya> the folder where your drive is mounted :)
[08:10] <kristjin> Okay, thank you, nolimitsoya.
[08:10] <kristjin> The chmod solved my problem.
[08:10] <kristjin> You rock my socks.
[08:10] <kristjin> Have a fabby day.
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> np :)
[08:11] <madflax> can somebody rock my socks too?
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> kristjin, chmod -R 755 gives you a bit of security as well...
[08:11] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known
[08:11] <Tokenbad> any help?
[08:11] <kristjin> come sit next to me, madflax... I'll rock your socks...
[08:11] <kristjin> HEh.
[08:11] <rojoneck> I have a problem with it, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030)
[08:11] <nolimitsoya> !anyone > madflax
[08:11] <madflax> lol
[08:11] <ianmacgregor> !seveas
[08:11] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:11] <kristjin> Thanks again, nolimitsoya.
[08:12] <kristjin> Have a great Sunday!
[08:12] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:12] <leocoutinho1987> Somebody knows how to help me with my lucent v.90 (internal), and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects... if anyone could help, pvt me , please...
[08:13] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel genreric, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:13] <Warbo> Tokenbad: I see you follow a similar sensible computer naming scheme as me :)
[08:13] <[Daniel] > jstarcher, try sudo /etc/init,d/alsa-utils restart
[08:13] <[Daniel] > er, init.d
[08:13] <Tokenbad> Warbo, yeah
[08:14] <FarrisG> Are there any apps that will let you somehow use your keyboard as a mouse? I have a wireless keyboard/mouse on my Ubuntu machine in the living room for media. THe range is OK for the keyboard, but not the mouse. I have to get within 4 feet of the receiver to use the mouse
[08:14] <leocoutinho1987> the howto don't explain what i may do
[08:14] <Tokenbad> what does it mean ipv6 getaddrindo whats it trying to do?
[08:14] <balor_> Are there any cross-compilers for Sparc or ARM or Power in the Ubuntu Apt repos?
[08:14] <ToHellWithGA> is there a command i can run in the terminal to see my free hdd space?
[08:14] <ladydoor> FarrisG: i believe you can use numberlock buttons to do it somehow, i'd google for that
[08:15] <ladydoor> FarrisG: also, check out ratpoisonwm--it has mousecontrol features you can bind to keyboard shortcuts
[08:15] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel generic, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:15] <Warbo> ToHellWithGA: df
[08:15] <ToHellWithGA> thanks Warbo
[08:15] <leocoutinho1987> please  help me with my lucent v.90 (internal), and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects...  what  can i do ?
[08:15] <fni> guys, i read that realvnc is included with ubuntu. how do i start it?
[08:16] <turner> Hello
[08:16] <jstarcher> Daniel: didn't work :( When I typed that command it said "warning: 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing'... " and XMMS is still broken
[08:16] <turner> I have a multi-processor system, however cat /proc/cpuinfo only shows one cpu.
[08:16] <leocoutinho1987> :( hmmm...
[08:16] <rojoneck> I have a problem with ubuntu kernel generic, I cannot make my wireless usb work (atheros awll4030) <--- any suggentions
[08:16] <balor_> turner: what version of Ubuntu?
[08:16] <fangorious> turner, are you running the smp kernel
[08:16] <turner> er
[08:17] <Warbo> Anyone know how pervasive GNOME's network settings are? I have set the proxy to use my TOR server, but am wondering how many apps will actually use that setting?
[08:17] <turner> Linux version 2.6.15-27-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006
[08:17] <balor_> turner: cat /etc/issue
[08:17] <turner> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[08:17] <balor_> turner: you have to install an SMP kernel
[08:17] <Tokenbad> when I restarted proftpd I got this:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'FuckYou-desktop' error: Name or service not known  :  Can anyone tell me what this means?
[08:17] <leocoutinho1987> please help me with my lucent v.90 (internal) [ubuntu 6.06] , and the wvdial that don't connect... it dials and after the message "carrier detected, waiting for prompt", disconnects... what i do ?
[08:17] <turner> and what's the process for that?
[08:17] <balor_> turner: only Edgy (6.10) will autodetect multiple processors
[08:18] <jstarcher> Daniel: Opps, I forgot to run sudo. That's why it errored. I just sudoed it and it restarted successfully. But XMMS still says to check if sound card is configured properly :(
[08:18] <balor_> turner: apt-get install some-kernel-smp
[08:18] <fangorious> turner, system->administration->synaptics
[08:18] <turner> It's a duel P3
[08:18] <ScreaminIke> ok... so i installed gpart. anyone know how to use this?
[08:18] <balor_> turner: do an apt-cache search for smp first
[08:18] <nolimitsoya> ScreaminIke, try man gpart
[08:18] <turner> linux-686-smp would work?
[08:19] <fangorious> turner, probably
[08:19] <fangorious> turner, uname -a say you have a 686?
[08:19] <ScreaminIke> system specs: hd0 - 1 partition (ntfs) 80 gb. hd1 - 3 partitions 50 gb ext2, 512 mb swap, 5 gb ext2
[08:19] <turner> cat: invalid option -- a
[08:19] <turner> Try `cat --help' for more information.
[08:19] <turner> er
[08:19] <Cyber_Stalker> im back :P
[08:19] <Warbo> I'm off
[08:19] <turner> 386
[08:20] <fangorious> turner, what processor do you have?
[08:20] <turner> P3
[08:20] <turner> 560 mhz
[08:20] <fangorious> turner, 686-smp will do
[08:20] <ScreaminIke> man pages are terribly unhelpful
[08:21] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[08:21] <Hooveyy> How do I force X into 1280x1024?
[08:21] <Hooveyy> It isn't in my resolution menu,
[08:21] <Hooveyy> But I need it at 1280x1024
[08:21] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:21] <turner> thank you
[08:21] <fangorious> Hooveyy, and you're monitor definitely supports it?
[08:21] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:21] <Hooveyy> Yes fangorious
[08:21] <variant> Himura: if your card/monitor supports it you can put hte line into xorg.conf
[08:21] <TheGateKeeper> Hooveyy: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:22] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: You'll also need to restart X to see the new resolution
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:22] <nolimitsoya> restarts x...
[08:22] <Cyber_Stalker> what irc client should i use for linux? & more specificly ubuntu
[08:22] <Hooveyy> Yah
[08:22] <willdev> xchat
[08:22] <Hooveyy> Yep, xchat is good.
[08:22] <boink> there are many irc clients
[08:22] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, xchat or xchat-gnome
[08:22] <willdev> sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:22] <ianmacgregor> Cyber_Stalker: That is totally up to you. Do you like gui or text-based?
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> i would prefer gui
[08:23] <boink> gui-based = xchat
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> but i been trying to get xchat to work
[08:23] <ianmacgregor> xchat may suit you then
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> Cyber_Stalker, lostirc is my favourite, but xchat is very common
[08:23] <boink> or even gaim
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> its giving me hell
[08:23] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, or konversation if you like kde
[08:23] <willdev> why?
[08:23] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> Cyber_Stalker, try lostirc then'
[08:23] <Cyber_Stalker> it wont compile :/
[08:23] <nolimitsoya> sudo apt-get install lostirc
[08:23] <Hooveyy> rofl, my ubuntu shutdown screen is xubuntu but my startup is ubuntu, odd.
[08:23] <willdev> sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[08:23] <willdev> run that
[08:23] <willdev> then it will install :)
[08:23] <boink> man apt-get
[08:23] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, xchat won't compile? you shouldn't need to compile it, just 'sudo apt-get install xchat'
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> ok yea
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> willdev: I've never had to install that and my xchat runs fine
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> but i mean compiling is part of linux :P
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> makes it more fun
[08:24] <boink> apt-get is the debian tool to install software
[08:24] <willdev> it dont matter
[08:24] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, you seem to be having a great time with it
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> yea im new to linux :P
[08:24] <willdev> both work
[08:24] <willdev> and are nearly the same
[08:24] <ianmacgregor> Cyber_Stalker: It's best to use the package manager and the repos for your distro
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> oh :/
[08:24] <Cyber_Stalker> my bad
[08:25] <boink> really, almost no distro requires you to compile yourself
[08:25] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, unless the packaged version doesn't offer a feature you want/need
[08:25] <visik7> anyone using edgy + xen ?
[08:25] <variant> Cyber_Stalker: it is advisable but its perfectly fine  (encouraged) to do that kind of thing, it helps you learn
[08:25] <willdev> anyone have a preconfiged source.list i can use?
[08:25] <Tokenbad> anyone help with proftpd?  I had account setup and working and now all of a sudden he can't get in...not just him but had others try to help with it...I then deleted the account and reinstalled and still can't get in...
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> boink , fangorious Both good points
[08:25] <jstarcher> How do I make my sound work again? Im in fluxbox and I opened skype with XMMS running and it stopped working...Can't find ALSA device
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> !easysource > willdev
[08:25] <Hooveyy> I reconfigured x and told it to use 1280x1024 but it didnt do anything :S
[08:25] <variant> jstarcher: apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:25] <TheGateKeeper> Cyber_Stalker: if you want all your apps to be compiled before you use them, then you need a source based distro like gentoo, or sourcemage :-)
[08:25] <ianmacgregor> Hooveyy: Did you restart X?
[08:26] <variant> jstarcher: and then in future start skype iwth "aoss skype" instead of just "skype"
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> WHAT
[08:26] <variant> jstarcher: then it will work with multiple programs open
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> im so confused
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> this whole thing
[08:26] <boink> pkg_src from NetBSD is another pkg management system for Linux
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> so much to leanr
[08:26] <jstarcher> variant: I'll give it a shot, thanks!
[08:26] <Cyber_Stalker> all i did was throw in a live CD & install :P
[08:26] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, TheGateKeeper was talking about distributions that are base on you comiling everything, opposed to ubuntu/fedora/suse that provide binary packages fr everything
[08:27] <Hendikins> If I'm writing documentation for Firefox 2.0, I should be playing with Dapper.1, correct?
[08:27] <variant> Hendikins: edgy
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well gimme a sec
[08:27] <fangorious> Cyber_Stalker, From the System menu, go to Administration, and then Synaptics
[08:27] <Cyber_Stalker> sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome worked
[08:27] <Hendikins> variant: Why so? (I'm aiming at Joe Enduser here, and it isn't a Ubuntu-specific document)
[08:28] <manmadha> can any one tell how to set alaram in the system by "at"cmd?