[00:00] <yvesyat> nss -myhostname is not installed
[00:00] <yvesyat> is an error i get
[00:00] <daftykins> weird
[00:00] <bpeak> Bashing-om: I cannot find any setting that describes this behavior on the accessibility tab. But, is this a WM (xfce4) setting? Does this keybind not work on other WM in ubuntu?
[00:05] <Bashing-om> bpeak: So far as I know that is particular to xfce4 (version 4.10 ?) .
[00:06] <bpeak> Bashing-om: 4.11 - Interesting. Thanks for your help :)
[00:09] <pedepy> hi i'm trying to setup a plex media server ... i have the service running but when trying to access the web app i get a connected refused from the browser.. in fact i get a connection refused trying to connect to localhost on any port so i'm not sure what to do from here
[00:09] <maddawg2> on localhost?
[00:09] <yvesyat> daftykins any idea?
[00:09] <maddawg2> what OS?
[00:09] <chunkasaurusREX> I need help making wirehsark Version 1.10.6 work in ubuntu 14.04, I have the interfaces loading but whenever I try to start a capture wireshark crashes.
[00:09] <maddawg2> it sounds like a firewall issue
[00:09] <daftykins> yvesyat: try installing smbfs and smbclient then trying again
[00:10] <pedepy> maddawg2 im running elementary (ubuntu fork) i cant imagine its very different .. sounds like that too or a permission issue but i have no idea how to access any of those
[00:10] <maddawg2> pedepy there is a plex support channel btw
[00:10] <pedepy> i didnt know what it is
[00:10] <pedepy> is it*
[00:10] <maddawg2> #plex
[00:10] <maddawg2> lol
[00:10] <pedepy> makes sense hahah
[00:10] <k1l_> !elementary | pedepy
[00:10] <bhat> hey
[00:11] <bhat> i like this brilliant design concept for ubuntu hope we will see it soon
[00:11] <bhat> https://www.behance.net/gallery/28804097/Ubuntu-1604-Stupendously-Hot-Charmander-concept
[00:11] <pedepy> alright ill try those but you dont think maybe it could be a permission issue on my user ?
[00:12] <pedepy> can i ask you another question when i try to connect to webchat freenode i have no more 'connect' button or whatever used to be ? im running ircii off a terminal now it's not the best least to say
[00:13] <Bashing-om> bpeak: Maybe: http://docs.xfce.org/apps/ristretto/4.10/preferences?s[]=zoom will help ? Not sure at all what has changed in 4.12 version .
[00:13] <yvesyat> daftykins : sorry to ask but what's the command to install smbfs and smbclient?
[00:14] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install smbfs smbclient
[00:17] <LegalAction> hi!
[00:17] <bhat> i've got problem with ubuntu when i suspend the system the screen stay black, i tried a lot of solutions but not work
[00:18] <LegalAction> Anyone willing to help me with a silly problem?
[00:18] <bhat> maybe i can, try to give it out
[00:18] <yvesyat> daftykins : just installed these 2
[00:18] <yvesyat> what shall i do next?
[00:19] <LegalAction> I'm using 14.4, and trying to get games to work like EGATrrek and Master of Magic to work.  I'm using DOSbox and D-Fend Reloaded for the front end.
[00:19] <LegalAction> Every time I load one of those games the computer sends e back to the log in screen.
[00:20] <LegalAction> I don't know why and I can't figure out how to fix it.
[00:20] <reisio> sounds like your X is crashing
[00:20] <reisio> grep EE /var/log/X*log
[00:20] <daftykins> yvesyat: repeat the mount
[00:21] <LegalAction> I'm enough of a newb that I don't understand what X is or that grep command or how to execute it.
[00:21] <daftykins> 14.04, there's a zero
[00:22] <reisio> LegalAction: CTRL+ALT+t, 'grep EE /var/log/X*log', ENTER
[00:22] <wafflejock> LegalAction: what reisio wrote on the grep line is all you would write in a terminal to get the output, grep searches files/a file for some text specifically looking for error messages there
[00:23] <wafflejock> LegalAction: X is the underlying drawing system that the graphics system uses to draw windows and other graphical elements on the screen, if there's an error in X and it restarts you might get kicked back to the login screen since everything graphical is restarted
[00:23] <LegalAction> "this device may have been added with another device file"
[00:25] <chunkasaurusREX> I think I figured out my issue, good luck everyone else
[00:26] <reisio> chunkasaurusREX: say how, for posterity
[00:26] <LegalAction> Should I format and reintall again?
[00:28] <chunkasaurusREX> No problem, I ran wireshark in terminal and saw GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to 'GtkScrollbar' so I ran the command export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0
[00:29] <yvesyat> daftykins : just found a way to mount
[00:29] <yvesyat> it's working now
[00:29] <yvesyat> thanks a lot
[00:29] <chunkasaurusREX> I actually still see that in terminal but now my capture is working without trying to run as root
[00:30] <daftykins> yvesyat: cool, GUI method working ok now?
[00:31] <yvesyat> yes sir
[00:31] <yvesyat> great and copying
[00:31] <yvesyat> now if the power shuts now i might commit suicide lol
[00:31] <yvesyat> but thanks thanks thanks
[00:31] <yvesyat> you were very helpful
[00:31] <daftykins> yvesyat: haha, go into power management and disable everything you can
[00:32] <yvesyat> just did
[00:32] <yvesyat> thanks again man
[00:32] <yvesyat> where r u from?
[00:33] <chunkasaurusREX> hmm, wireshark still only runs if I launch from terminal, is there any way to make 'export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0' work on wireshark from launcher?
[00:33] <daftykins> yvesyat: channel islands
[00:35] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: can typically modify your .desktop files to launch with whatever params you need
[00:36] <chunkasaurusREX> Does that apply to the Launcher icon?
[00:36] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: can go in a terminal and, sudo updatedb, then, locate whatever.desktop if you (probably wireshark.desktop)
[00:36] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: yeah launchers typically come from .desktop entries as far as I know
[00:37] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: program called alacarte is helpful for modifying menu entries too most of the time... not using Unity here anymore so can't check
[00:37] <chunkasaurusREX> Okay cool, and on an unrelated note, how can I check to see what privileges I am letting wireshark run with?
[00:38] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: typically if you start a process it has your user privileges you can check top to see what users process are run as or use, ps aux, that'll list the processes along with the user info
[00:42] <yvesyat> daftykins : thanks guy from the channel island
[00:42] <yvesyat> i'm heading to sleep now after launching the backup process
[00:42] <yvesyat> see u :)
[00:42] <chunkasaurusREX> awesome, thank you very much wafflejock, alacarte looks like a life-saver, checking it out now.
[00:43] <daftykins> yvesyat: laters :>
[00:44] <chunkasaurusREX> ps aux is very enlightening as well.
[00:50] <wafflejock> chunkasaurusREX: yup no prob
[01:00] <gerep> Hello good people. I have a question about shell
[01:00] <gerep> I'm logged in as userA and I'm changing the user like this: sudo su - userB
[01:00] <gerep> When I change the user, does it load another shell for this user?
[01:01] <xMopxShell> How bad of an idea is this? http://tecadmin.net/flush-memory-cache-on-linux-server/
[01:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> gerep, yes, you can check processes
[01:05] <gerep> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry if this question is silly but I have this situation, I'm running a Go code where I create a pseudo terminal to run some sudo commands but when I change the user it loads another shell and I lose my pseudo terminal. Is there a way for me to change user without changing the shell?
[01:08] <Chaser> gerep: may be with out "-" just a guess.
[01:08] <gerep> Chaser: I'll try it but I think it will only not load the user variables
[01:11] <gerep> Chaser: that was it! Thanks a lot! :D
[01:12] <Chaser> gerep:  :) cool.
[01:13] <Foxhoundz> how do i check to see what user initiated the last shutdown?
[01:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> gerep, sounds like an environment var issue then
[01:21] <vfw> Foxhoundz: You can look at /var/log/syslog
[01:22] <michael_p> hi i like the new ubuntu mate
[01:22] <michael_p> shame that itunes is not supoorted
[01:23] <Foxhoundz> the last syslog entry before the shutdown was just regular cron task
[01:31] <vfw> Foxhoundz: There are hardware issues that can cause shutodown, power surge, heat, etc. etc.
[01:31] <vfw> Foxhoundz: Is it a desktop PC?
[01:32] <Foxhoundz> no it's a low power headless server
[01:32] <TaPX> Привет, есть русскоговорящие? Ай нид хэлп
[01:32] <theJian> I try to iterate files in bash script, because some files name include space, so I set IFS=\n, but it separates file 'money' to 'mo' and 'ey'.
[01:32] <Foxhoundz> vfw: auth logs didn't show anything either
[01:32] <theJian> How can I fix this?
[01:33] <Foxhoundz> I'm just going to scuttle the whole thing and wipe the entire disk
[01:33] <Foxhoundz> and start anew
[01:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, iterate files from what?
[01:33] <TaPX> How to create usb-flash with windows-xp in linux os?
[01:34] <vfw> TaPX: Vbox?
[01:34] <TaPX> Hey guys, please, help me
[01:34] <Ben64> TaPX: ask ##windows
[01:35] <TaPX> Я так и думал
[01:35] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: iterate files recursively from a bunch of folds
[01:35] <vfw> TaPX: I think you need to elaborate just a bit.  We are not sure what you're asking.
[01:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, are you using 'find'?
[01:35] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: yes
[01:36] <vfw> TaPX: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[01:36] <TaPX> vfw: no, in terminal
[01:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, then just use -exec to run the commands
[01:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> That's the best way.
[01:36] <Ben64> TaPX: you want to put windows xp onto a flash drive and have it be bootable? thats a question for ##windows
[01:37] <geomyidae_> Am I wasting my time asking upstart questions here? Oh well, I'll try anyway.
[01:37] <geomyidae_> Why does upstart say my service is start/running, when it only contains a single "echo" statement that I already see in the log file?
[01:37] <TaPX> Ben64: I want do this in linux :)
[01:38] <Ben64> TaPX: its a windows issue, talk to ##windows they will tell you how what tools to use
[01:38] <vfw> TaPX: If you have an image that is suitable for a butable usb, you can use dd
[01:38] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, e.g.   find /path ... -exec some_command {} \;
[01:38] <TaPX> vfw: dd does not work
[01:38] <vfw> TaPX: dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sd?
[01:39] <Ben64> TaPX: ASK ##WINDOWS
[01:39] <vfw> TaPX: It would wrok if the image is all there and is bootable.
[01:39] <Ben64> vfw: not correct
[01:40] <LegalAction> How do I correct X problems?
[01:40] <vfw> LegalAction: Depends on the nature of the X problem.
[01:40] <TaPX> Ben64: I understand you, guru
[01:40] <Ben64> geomyidae_: exit status probably
[01:40] <geomyidae_> Ben64: it's an echo statement and I don't have "respawn" enabled
[01:41] <thecyclone> hi, i would like to create some gui based installers for ubuntu. Can someone help me with how to get started?
[01:41] <geomyidae_> I guess I could look up when `echo` returns non-zero, but I feel relatively safe assuming that's not the issue :)
[01:41] <michael_p> has anyone install itunes in ubuntu
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> !itunes | michael_p
[01:42] <thecyclone> !players
[01:42] <michael_p> purchase
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> !deb | thecyclone
[01:42] <thecyclone> michael_p, why dont you use spotify
[01:42] <michael_p> could do
[01:43] <vfw> LegalAction: First thing to do is look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:43] <theJian> Eduard_Munteanu: I do this for converting file format, eg. abc.ogg to abc.mp3, how can I do this using 'find'
[01:43] <geomyidae_> Good thing there are so many users of upstart, I can ask around /s
[01:43] <Ben64> geomyidae_: that attitude won't get you very far here
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: playonlinux has also itunes but older version
[01:45] <michael_p> i was looking at getting windows xp
[01:45] <michael_p> for vb
[01:45] <LegalAction> vfw I don't see /var
[01:45] <vfw> !vbox | michael_p
[01:46] <michael_p> i have the orgional cd but lost serial
[01:46] <vfw> LegalAction: I can't find it for you.  Sorry.
[01:46] <thecyclone> windows XP?
[01:46] <thecyclone> support is removed for it
[01:46] <michael_p> who cares
[01:46] <Ben64> you should
[01:46] <thecyclone> i dont understand why someone wants to install an obsolete OS
[01:46] <vfw> LegalAction: But it should be there...
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss windows here guys
[01:47] <michael_p> what about windows vista
[01:47] <thecyclone> nope
[01:47] <thecyclone> even worse
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> !ot | michael_mbp
[01:47] <vfw> michael_p: Not interested.
[01:47] <thecyclone> go for windows 10 or windows 7 if you will
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: try some ubuntu itunes tricks for your needs
[01:47] <vfw> thecyclone: Really?
[01:48] <michael_p> nah for 1 itunes music file its ok
[01:48] <LegalAction> vfw I think I'm going to reinstall everything
[01:48] <thecyclone> vfw: i use windows 10 with Ubuntu 14.04 in dual boot
[01:48] <michael_p> i was looking at that
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> thecyclone: please stay on topic
[01:48] <thecyclone> i use windows for gaming and matlab
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, find /path -name \*.ogg -print0 | while read -r -d '' fn; do base=$(basename "$fn" .ogg); convert "${base}.ogg" "${base.mp3}"; done
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> Er.
[01:48] <vfw> thecyclone: I use linux
[01:48] <Eduard_Munteanu> "${base}.mp3"
[01:49] <thecyclone> anyway please someone help me with creating deb packages
[01:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> theJian, find /path -name \*.ogg -print0 | while read -r -d '' fn; do mp3=$(sed 's/ogg$/mp3/' <<< "$fn"); convert "$fn" "$mp3"; done
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> !checkinstall | thecyclone
[01:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> That should do.
[01:54] <linuxw10> hola
[01:55] <ElevyNJ> Evening. I need some help setting up an HP printer on Ubuntu. it's going to be off a system that has no working screen and is being used as a print server
[01:55] <linuxw10> alguien sabría decirme como arrancar ubuntu desde  usb y librarme  de uefi y windows
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> !es | linuxw10
[01:56] <linuxw10> perdón-sorry
[01:59] <NekoMaid420> So I'm not in sudoers file and I have one user. What can I do to put myself back in it?
[02:00]  * geomyidae_ starts authoring new upstart job install-systemd-and-purge-upstart.conf
[02:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> NekoMaid420, gpasswd -a user sudoers
[02:02] <NekoMaid420> What will that do?
[02:02] <Eduard_Munteanu> Add your user to the sudoers group.
[02:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> Er, should be sudo or wheel.
[02:03] <geomyidae_> Doesn't that depends on how their sudo is configured? Mine is "wheel" not "sudo", certianly not "sudoers"
[02:03]  * geomyidae_ forget they're in #ubuntu and sudo is preconfigured a certain way
[02:04] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, you want to configure /etc/sudoers? Use visudo or such.
[02:04] <geomyidae_> No, sorry Eduard_Munteanu, I was in {other-distro} mentality and was saying that the group to join is dependent on how the /etc/sudoers file is configured.
[02:04] <bufferloss> how large should I make my partitions? so far I’m only seeing minimum recommended sizes in my google searches
[02:05] <NekoMaid420> Eduard_Munteanu: Do I have to run that command with sudo?
[02:05] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: yes, if a regular, non-root/non-sudo user could add themselves without root authority, there wouldn't be much point :)
[02:05] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, one big partition or assign like 40GiB to / and the rest to /home. Figures vary depending on your usage.
[02:06] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: ok, I was going to use a separate /var partition as well
[02:06] <NekoMaid420> Yeah, that's my impression. I can't execute any sudo commands at all right now geomyidae_ since my machine has only one user and that user is not in the sudoers file
[02:06] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: hm, that's a bit strange, if I recall, Ubuntu puts the original user in the sudoers file
[02:07] <geomyidae_> Otherwise, I'm not sure how you'd go about it, except in some not-so-nice ways
[02:07] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, oh, well, it depends then. A lot of stuff may end up on /var in some cases, and little in others.
[02:07] <NekoMaid420> Which is true, or was true. I was missing around with groups and I may have either deleted the admin group or simply removed myself from it
[02:07] <NekoMaid420> Though, I'm not entirely sure. Is there a way to check that configuration geomyidae_?
[02:08] <mushir> I can't get network connection to work for any guest on virtualbox using ubuntu as host a tired every setting but no luck
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: you can check your groups with `groups` and check sudo's config with `cat /etc/sudoers` possibly
[02:08] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah so my main concern here is that I will be working with rather large databases
[02:08] <bufferloss> along the lines of greater than 40GB
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: but yeah, if you've removed yourself from that group, it's time to break out the big-person gloves...
[02:08] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: unless by change you've activated the root account on your install....
[02:08] <bufferloss> and I would prefer to be able to just let the db take up as much room as it wants, and let the home folder take up as much room as it wants
[02:09] <bufferloss> so, it seems like either I want to store the postgres data dir in the /home partition
[02:09] <bufferloss> or… well, yeah that’s sort of my main thought at the moment
[02:09] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, a better convention would be using /srv rather than /home
[02:10] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: I've just skimmed this, but it seems like a good way for you to fix your issue: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[02:10] <NekoMaid420> I don't think I have activated it geomyidae_ nor can I access that file :( I don't think I've used the root account on this computer
[02:10] <geomyidae_> curious if psychocats is still around... I remember that from when I was an ubuntu user.
[02:10] <geomyidae_> NekoMaid420: that's fine, check the link I posted and see if it makes some sense or not
[02:10] <NekoMaid420> Nice! I think that's what got linked to me earlier, but I forgot it at work, haha. Thanks geomyidae_
[02:12]  * geomyidae_ even has logging in his upstart script, can confirm that the last line was executed and yet upstart thinks it's still running
[02:12] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: hmm, sure, that’s a possibility, it’s not much different than using the default of /var/lib for the postgres db directory
[02:12] <bufferloss> the issue I’m contemplating is the possibility/eventuality that my db may likely outgrow its partition
[02:12] <bufferloss> and similarly that my /home dir may outgrow its partition
[02:13] <bufferloss> mostly only a concern if I have to choose right now to size them without really being 100% sure of how much space I’ll use on either one
[02:14] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, you might want to use LVM and leave some extra space unallocated, if that's more comforting.
[02:14] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: yeah I’ve been hearing about LVM, how do I setup/choose/etc LVM?
[02:14] <bufferloss> I’m looking at gparted right now
[02:14] <bufferloss> but the only choices I see effectively are “primary” or “logical” when I go to change my partitions
[02:15] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, not sure, I haven't set up LVM with the installer in ages
[02:15] <coffeeguy> hi how do i make all my apps use openvpn in ubuntu 14.04.3 with Gufw
[02:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> coffeeguy, you just need to add a redirect-gateway directive to the openvpn config
[02:16] <coffeeguy> is there a how-to?
[02:16] <coffeeguy> aah of course thank you /me googles redirec*
[02:20] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: hmm, another question, gparted has an option called “Device for boot loader installation”
[02:20] <bufferloss> I have 2 separate physical drives, one with windows that I just installed, and now this new empty drive I’m going to install ubuntu
[02:21] <bufferloss> do I want to choose my windows drive for the “boot loader” or do I choose the actual drive I intend to install ubuntu on?
[02:21] <bufferloss> or does the mount point parameter take care of the “which drive to install ubuntu on"
[02:21] <bufferloss> i.e. whatever partition I specify as / basically, that’s where the system will install
[02:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> bufferloss, the drive with Ubuntu is likely better, as it doesn't interfere with Windows (e.g. get erased later on), but you'll have to boot from it
[02:22]  * geomyidae_ isnt even sure what the gparted option is used for
[02:22] <geomyidae_> It also depends on your traditional boot method, how you want to dual boot, etc.
[02:22] <bufferloss> Eduard_Munteanu: ahh, ok so I should choose my ubuntu drive, but then I’ll probably need to update/change my bios to try to boot from that drive first I’m guessing
[02:22] <bufferloss> cuz right now my bios tries to boot from my windows drive
[02:23] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yes.
[02:23] <bufferloss> ok cool
[02:23] <geomyidae_> If you install a NEW EFI System Partition, then you will have to use your machine boot menu to choose which OS to boot. If you install into the same ESP, then you can use systemd-boot or something else as a boot manager to choose the boot loader.
[02:23] <geomyidae_> FWIW, you can programatically restart into a different OS using the system boot manager... haven't figured out how to do it with systemd-boot yet though...
[02:25] <lunix> hola buenas noches
[02:27] <bufferloss> ok, here goes nothin… lol
[02:27] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:27] <bufferloss> 500G /home and 400G /var
[02:29] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:30] <lunix> #ubuntu-es
[02:30] <lunix> una pregunta apenas instale xubuntu en esta maquina la v.14 y cuando hice  el update a la 15 me dio este erorr ( apci pcc probe failed initramfs )hasta ahora me es dificil entrar al pc
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> !es | lunix
[02:36] <TaPX> Уна пергунта - красотишша
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !ru | TaPX
[02:38] <xidi> q
[02:39] <xidi> quit
[02:39] <unni> please help!!!cmos setting error every time i login my computer
[02:44] <vfw> unni: What cmos setting error?
[02:55] <edisto> does 15.10 support Fury X? or do I have to install kernel 4.3 rc?
[02:57] <vcoinminer> hi. I have multiple pc in same ip and I've set ufw to allow anything from that ip, however ufw only allow one pc to access, how should I solve that? (probably because mac address?)
[02:59] <SchrodingersScat> vcoinminer: why not give them another IP?
[03:00] <vcoinminer> SchrodingerScat because I have only one IP... actualy the IP is used by router, it simply pcs under that router
[03:08] <bufferloss> so I just installed ubuntu
[03:08] <bufferloss> but I don’t get the boot loader… my bios doesn’t give me the option to boot from my second HD, only my first
[03:09] <bufferloss> I was going to change the boot pointer in my bios but since I can’t do that, I figure I need to reinstall/setup/etc the MBR on the correct disk
[03:09] <bufferloss> how do I do that?
[03:11] <wileee> !grub | bufferloss
[03:11] <wileee> bufferloss, basic mbr info in the message I think
[03:20] <michael_p> anyone know about youtube
[03:21] <michael_p> or uploaded a youtube video
[03:22] <bufferloss> wileee: yep that got me what I needed, thanks
[03:24] <wileee> bufferloss, no problem. ;)
[03:24] <bufferloss> wileee: ok, next step and or challege is how to fix my resolution :/
[03:25] <bufferloss> I’ve got a 980GTX Ti but the only resolution I can select in the settings area is 640x480
[03:26] <Gerowen> Question for you Ubuntu-ers, are you able to watch Hulu?  I've watched Hulu for years on Linux PCs, and all of a sudden, out of the blue, it no longer works on my Linux PCs which currently run Debian.  Using Firefox it tells me to install HAL, which is deprecated and no longer in the package manager, which means hunting down and compiling it and all its dependencies, and using Google Chrome it tells me the browser doesn't support playing protected
[03:26] <Gerowen> content.
[03:26] <[n0mad]> no Gerowen
[03:26] <[n0mad]> been broke for a couple of months
[03:26] <wileee> bufferloss, Not an area I really know, but lots of helpers here who know.
[03:27] <bufferloss> wileee: ok, I mean I figure I can try installing the proprietary nvidia drivers
[03:27] <Gerowen> n0mad: That's what I thought, getting ready to send a nastygram to Hulu tech support.
[03:27] <[n0mad]> it actually caused me to move my fire stick to my bedroom and use my 360 in the living room
[03:27] <bufferloss> I was hoping to at least get a basic functionally working setup just with nv/neuvau or whatever ubuntu comes with
[03:27] <[n0mad]> cuz i can't use my laptop for it anymore
[03:27] <wileee> bufferloss, Hae you looked in the additional drivers tab in software & updates?
[03:27] <wileee> Have*
[03:28] <bufferloss> not yet, I usually use apt-get
[03:28] <xxy> xxy
[03:28] <bufferloss> that monolithic “software center” thing makes me leary :P
[03:28] <wileee> bufferloss, I would start there if it were me, it is a specific app just for this.
[03:28] <bufferloss> is that anything related to jockey?
[03:29] <[n0mad]> bufferloss: software & updates, not software center
[03:29] <bufferloss> cuz last time I used jockey was epic fail :/
[03:29] <vfw> bufferloss: Yes
[03:29] <wileee> bufferloss, Yeah I believe so, there is a command that brings it up I think
[03:29] <bufferloss> I’m gonna let apt-get update && apt-get upgrade finish first
[03:30] <Gerowen> n0mad: I let my subscription run out, thinking about hooking up the PS3 in the living room so my wife can watch Hulu, but I've got the desktop kinda set up as a "Media PC", game console emulators, DVD player, you name it.  I just didn't know if it was something specific to Debian stable (old library version or something) or if it affected other Linux distributions as well.
[03:30] <vfw> bufferloss: Good idea.
[03:31] <[n0mad]> Gerowen: i think that some distributions actually have it working still but i haven't looked at it in a while, i finally just gave up. they may have also lost it since then. not sure.
[03:31] <bufferloss> [n0mad]: Hulu probably got wise and added some extra layer of DRM-ish type stuff
[03:31] <[n0mad]> yeah, it was a change on hulu
[03:31] <bufferloss> thus breaking free-ish tools like whatever Ubuntu had been using
[03:32] <bufferloss> [n0mad]: get a roku or something
[03:32] <bufferloss> I have a roku, xbox, ps etc, and all of them have Hulu
[03:32] <[n0mad]> bufferloss: i have it working on my fire stick, roku and 360.
[03:32] <Darkenvy> My lamp installation wont perform php properly. while MAMP can view the same PHP file and render it correctly
[03:32] <Gerowen> It has been a month or so since I first noticed it.    I'll just go without it.  Windows is painful enough when you actually install it, let alone run it in a VM.  Last time I started my Win7 VM to test a Python script I wrote I decided to go ahead and install updates so that the VM was up to date, BIG MISTAKE.  10 freakin' years later, lol.
[03:36] <bufferloss> get an SSD
[03:37] <bufferloss> and metric crap tons of RAM
[03:38] <jason__> I've managed to run some somewhat graphically intense windows only games in a virtual machine.
[03:38] <Gerowen> jason_ : What VM software?
[03:39] <bufferloss> jason__: have you tried wine for any of those? wine has relatively decent game support
[03:39] <jason__> whatever the free vmware is
[03:39] <bufferloss> certainly many titles are lacking in good support, but plenty of them are robust on wine
[03:39] <bufferloss> jason__: is there a free vmware anymore?
[03:39] <plytro> yeah
[03:39] <bufferloss> I usually go with virtualbox
[03:39] <plytro> vmware player
[03:39] <Gerowen> jason_ : I just use Virtualbox, and DirectX support in it is still marked "experimental" last time I looked.
[03:39] <bufferloss> plytro: that’s the one where you can only run premade images though right?
[03:39] <plytro> bufferloss: its changed
[03:40] <bufferloss> ah ok, interesting, I might check it out again
[03:40] <plytro> you can create and other things now
[03:40] <plytro> no snapshots
[03:40] <jason__> I think VMWare has better support for that sort of thing.
[03:40] <plytro> I ran stuff in Wine
[03:40] <plytro> team fortress 2 and teh like
[03:40] <bufferloss> yeah lots of big title run fine in wine
[03:40] <plytro> no issues with that genre of game
[03:40] <bufferloss> scroll through the list and look for “gold” status I think it is
[03:40] <plytro> now lots of games on steam are native linux
[03:40] <jason__> team fortress 2 runs natively on linux, no?
[03:40] <bufferloss> but even non-gold are often fine
[03:40] <plytro> jason__: at the time it didn't
[03:40] <bufferloss> jason__: not natively, it runs using WINE
[03:41] <Darkenvy> PHP LAMP problem: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/x_location/x_current.php is blank but it should not be.
[03:41] <plytro> bufferloss: it is native now
[03:41] <bufferloss> oh, well and yeah the valve games all run on linux these days
[03:41] <plytro> so is counter strike, etc
[03:41] <bufferloss> jason__: so yes, that includes TF2 CS DOTA etc
[03:41] <Darkenvy> on my Mac, MAMP displays x_location/x_current.php correctly
[03:41] <vfw> Darkenvy: apache?
[03:41] <Darkenvy> is that the problem?
[03:41] <plytro> at the time (pentium 4, geforce 6600 gt) it ran in wine
[03:41] <Darkenvy> I have apache2 installed
[03:42] <quantic> Darkenvy: um, I'm going to say that the code isn't complete. I also have your database password. You should also never design an application to use the mysql root user.
[03:42] <vfw> Darkenvy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:42] <Darkenvy> Its not my code :P. Dang time to change THAT password XD
[03:43] <bufferloss> Darkenvy: I’m also gonna say that you maybe want #apache or #mamp or #macosx instead
[03:43] <Darkenvy> I had a problem earlier with the PHP not reading another PHP file through require(). Im guessing its all related
[03:43] <bufferloss> er sorry #httpd
[03:43] <plytro> looks like you end after a <script>...</script> no more html tags
[03:43] <Darkenvy> I dont want the mac anything though :S. I just tried it on there as a control to this experiment
[03:43] <plytro> the script to include google maps
[03:44] <plytro> php is probably failing to do something
[03:44] <quantic> Darkenvy: check pms
[03:44] <Darkenvy> okay
[03:45] <Darkenvy> the source of what is viewable seems to not be the full code
[03:45] <Darkenvy> of what should be interpreted
[03:47] <bufferloss> Darkenvy: you want one of ##php or #httpd or #mysql
[03:47] <Darkenvy> okay
[03:47] <bufferloss> probably #httpd
[03:49] <Gerowen> Getting ready to switch back over to Ubuntu.  I tried Debian for the past couple weeks, and it's fine, but lacks "polish" in certain areas.  Font anti-aliasing is lacking in certain scenarios, the versions of certain software packages are already pretty dated, etc.  I'll go ahead and get 15.04 installed and then do an in-place upgrade to 15.10 in a couple of days.  Plus the people in this IRC channel are generally more active I think, easier to get a
[03:49] <Gerowen> quick answer.
[03:52] <Gerowen> Here's an example of the font issue.  No amount of installing additional fonts, including MSTT Core fonts, or adjusting the font settings in the Gnome Tweak UI fixes it.  This is what I see on certain websites, like CNN in this example.  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6017319/Screenshots/cnnfonts.png
[03:52] <Gerowen> Ubuntu just seems a little more polished when it comes to basic things.
[03:54] <bufferloss> Gerowen: yes, Ubuntu is generally more polished, my anti aliasing is pretty much fine
[03:54] <bufferloss> Gerowen: debian is really a server distribution
[03:54] <bufferloss> if you want anti aliasing you want more of a workstation distro
[03:55] <bufferloss> Ubuntu is definitely my only choice for a workstation
[03:55] <bufferloss> I dunno, I mean Fedora is probably ok for some folks. I used it back during the FC1 and FC2 days, then I tried it again more recently, couple times in the past couple years
[03:55] <bufferloss> I just like Ubuntu so much better
[03:55] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I don't mind doing work customizing things, but it's nice to have a good starting point where the basic stuff is taken care of.
[03:56] <bufferloss> I had definite problems with Fedora in terms of getting what I wanted
[03:56] <bufferloss> Fedora is an ok choice if you’re planning to prepare to work with CentOS servers for example
[03:56] <bufferloss> all the things you learn on Fedora will be relatively apropos to CentOS, but otherwise, I’d stay stick with Ubuntu
[03:56] <bufferloss> Gerowen: if you’re interested in slightly more proprietary things like Hulu, Ubuntu is the only choice right now
[03:57] <bufferloss> Gerowen: evidence: steam is only officially supported on Ubuntu
[03:57] <Gerowen> bufferloss: I remember I used Fedora Core 4 for a little while and liked it, but it seemed like, at least at that time, RPMs, or at least the ones I chose, were hard to work with.  Every time I would find something in RPM format and try to install it, I'd have to go find RPMs of all its dependencies and install those first, or drop them into the same folder with the end product so it could find them and install them.  Apt-get/Aptitude just seemed
[03:57] <Gerowen> smarter and easier to work with.
[03:57] <bufferloss> you can install steam basically anywhere, I’ve installed steam just fine on Arch for example
[03:57] <bufferloss> but technically, Valve only “truly” supports Ubuntu
[03:57] <bufferloss> Gerowen: meh, yum is fine, pretty good and not really any better or worse than apt-get as I remember
[03:58] <Gerowen> bufferloss: Yeah I've been playing my Steam games on Debian with no issues.  In a perfect world everything would abide by the Debian Free Software Guidelines or the GNU GPL, but there's some things in life that I need or want to use that don't.
[03:58] <bufferloss> but dealing with proprietary repos is more of a pain
[03:58] <bufferloss> (more of a pain on fedora)
[03:58] <bufferloss> Ubuntu has great repos, free and non-free
[04:00] <Gerowen> Now if deja-dup would hurry up with finishing my backup I could get one with installing Ubuntu, :P
[04:03] <quantic> I use Ubuntu for personal workstations and servers. My workstation is CentOS, same as the servers I manage.
[04:03] <Gerowen> Question, if I install the Beta 2 for 15.10 will it automagically update to the "release" version on the 22nd?  Does it run off the same repos?
[04:03] <quantic> Rather: My work-workstation is CentOS, etc.
[04:04] <quantic> Gerowen: Yes, it'll follow the wily repos.
[04:05] <Gerowen> quantic: Never used CentOS.  Was gonna install it in a VM a few days back just to play around with it, but my laptop doesn't support 64 bit virtual machines for some reason (even though it has a 64 bit processor it's missing certain extensions I guess), and there's no 32 bit version of CentOS available in the newer versions that I could find.
[04:05] <quantic> Gerowen: The virtualization extensions may be turned off. I run into that a lot on some hardware.
[04:06] <Gerowen> quantic: Will have to go check the BIOS settings, cause' I can run 32 bit guest systems, just not 64 bit.
[04:07] <bufferloss> hmm, by default after a fresh install I’m not seeing multiple desktops
[04:07] <bufferloss> how do I change that
[04:11] <quantic> Gerowen: What CPU are you running? I can verify whether or not you've got the necessary extensions.
[04:12] <Gerowen> bufferloss: Change the default, or add desktops?
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: Intel Pentium B960
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: dual core, 2.2 Ghz
[04:13] <quantic> Gerowen: Whoa. No, you definitely do NOT have the necessary extensions.
[04:13] <Gerowen> quantic: :P
[04:14] <Gerowen> Like I said, it's 64 bit, but it's just an old Toshiba laptop.  I use it for some light gaming, browsing, e-mailing, movies/music, occasionally coding on a couple newblet projects I have on sourceforge, but nothing terribly CPU intensive.
[04:15] <Gerowen> The biggest CPU hog of a game I've played I think has been Half Life 2 Episode 2, I just finished it last week or so.
[04:16] <RepThis1> I was wondering if anyone knew how to configure ubuntu to use a vpn using openvpn or the likes via commandline? I have the .ovpn, ca.crt, and crl.pem but when i tried to connect it freezes after username and password authentication.
[04:17] <quantic> Gerowen: If you're interested in checking it out: http://mirror.centos.org/altarch/7/isos/i386/CentOS-7-i386-DVD-1503.iso
[04:18] <quantic> Gerowen: There's a 32-bit release, now.
[04:18] <bufferloss> Gerowen: well, I want multiple desktops
[04:18] <bufferloss> maybe I don’t have them configured
[04:18] <Gerowen> quantic: Ah Ok, once I get bumped back over to Ubuntu I'll check it out, :-)
[04:18] <bufferloss> enable them add then, whatever
[04:18] <bufferloss> I don’t see anywhere in the settings panel to do this
[04:19] <quantic> RepThis1: When it freezes, do you get a message of any kind? Anything in the logs? Network interface configuration and state at the time of the freeze?
[04:19] <Gerowen> bufferloss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/260510/how-do-i-turn-on-workspaces-why-do-i-only-have-one-workspace
[04:19] <Gerowen> Apparently the setting is under "Appearance".
[04:20] <RepThis1> quantic: i wouldnt be sure which logs to check but as the process ran it did give some output on which last step it was able to complete. Give me a second though cause someone said i just need a password file to add to the line of arguments when run.
[04:21] <quantic> RepThis1: If you're only using username/password auth, that doesn't sound right.
[04:21] <quantic> RepThis1: But let me know how it goes.
[04:25] <Twirl> hi, where cna i submit a bug ?
[04:26] <Twirl> nvm
[04:26] <Gerowen> That was fast, lol, 3 seconds.
[04:39] <RepThis1> quantic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12883485/ it freezes on the last step, then usually i have to power cycle
[04:42] <quantic> RepThis1: You really shouldn't be using a file for username and password.
[04:43] <quantic> RepThis1: That said, there's nothing in that log that indicates an issue. Can you add "verb 4" to your .ovpn and try again?
[04:45] <quantic> RepThis1: And remove the password file from the mix. :P
[04:45] <Jordan_U> RepThis1: A better solution, assuming you don't need the VPN before logging in, would be to save your VPN credentials to the GNOME Keyring, which will then be unlocked by your user's password when you log in. No passwords stored unencrypted/unhashed at all.
[04:45] <quantic> ^
[04:45] <RepThis1> Jordan_U: headless vps server.
[04:46] <Jordan_U> RepThis1: OK.
[04:46] <quantic> RepThis1: Then you shouldn't be using username and password authentication at all.
[04:49] <xxneolithicxx> https://savecrypto.org/
[04:54] <RepThis1> quantic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12883542/
[04:55] <quantic> RepThis1: This is for PIA. If you're having issues, they're the ones to talk to.
[05:10] <thetrav> I have one physical disk /dev/sdb and I want two LVM VGroups on it.  How do I go about that?
[05:23] <nullwolf>  /msg NickServ register f11321<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:25] <dinoocch> umm...
[05:28] <Lonely> -
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> nullwolf: better change pass now
[05:35] <kaiza> My laptop's built in wireless card (Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN) no longer works on either the an or bgn on my wifi network. It says it connects, but gets no internet access. Booted into windows and works fine. I think my drivers in Ubuntu need fixing, any suggestions?
[05:36] <cn28h> kaiza: did you successfully get an IP address?
[05:36] <cn28h> I'd check the simplest things first
[05:36] <cn28h> if you haven't already
[05:37] <hateball> kaiza: Did you change kernels?
[05:38] <hateball> kaiza: Rather, what has changed on your install between wifi working and now?
[05:38] <kaiza> cn28h, Yes
[05:38] <RepThis1> Whats the "systemctl enable" equivalent in 14.04 ?
[05:39] <kaiza> hateball, thats the odd thing, it was working fine when i went to bed, wasn't this morning
[05:40] <Twirl> hi guys, i've submitted this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1508309 can someone take a lil look at it? thanks.
[05:40] <hateball> kaiza: Right, well, do you have automatic updates enabled? You may have gotten a new kernel installed which is not active until next reboot
[05:40] <kaiza> hateball, Ah yes that is likely
[05:40] <hateball> kaiza: You can review /var/log/apt/history* to see what packages have changed lately
[05:41] <hateball> kaiza: In the case of a new kernel, try entering the grub menu at boot and picking an older entry and see if that behaves better
[05:41] <hateball> Regressions do happen, sadly
[05:41] <kaiza> hateball, Okay thanks, ill try that
[05:42] <luc1f3r> http://h311.us/
[05:46] <Gerowen> Back, with Ubuntu rockin' and rollin'.
[05:48] <chigang> hi, when I install Ubuntu 14.04 server, there is a error "mounting /dev/fd0 on /media failed No such file or directory", so install failed. who can help me, thanks
[05:49] <hateball> chigang: is this in a VM or on iron?
[05:49] <chigang> hateball: in a baremetal
[05:50] <hateball> chigang: How strange, it should have no business trying to mount a floppy drive
[05:51] <chigang> hateball: yes, it is so strange, I install on a blade server, there is no floppy drive.
[05:51] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: are you customizing your partitions and mount points or using the guided recommended stuff for that
[05:54] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: likely that your hardware has an enabled floppy controller that you likely dont want to use
[05:54] <hateball> chigang: A bit of google https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1054414/comments/35
[05:54] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: I used a preseed file for auto installation.
[05:54] <hateball> chigang: So disabling floppy in BIOS may be helpful
[05:55] <hateball> If the preseed was generated on a system with a floppy and you're on one without... that may break things, I suppose
[05:57] <chigang> hateball: thanks, I will try it.
[05:58] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz:  I try to disable floppy first,thanks.
[06:00] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: The mount failing is no big deal, this should not cause an instal fail
[06:01] <Gerowen> Any idea why in later versions of Ubuntu/Debian, there's no "New tab" option in Gnome Terminal any more, it just opens a separate window?
[06:02] <Gerowen> I know I can CTRL+SHIFT+T, just curiosity really.
[06:02] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: but Installation is stop, I can't see any information from the screen. so I think is failed.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Gerowen: wich ubuntu version is this?
[06:02] <Gerowen> 15.04
[06:02] <chigang> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VokPqU2X/installation_fail_screen
[06:03] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: that is a picture about it.
[06:04] <BuzzardBuzz> Weird. After letting it sit for about 15 minutes on the blank purple screen, it started working again, went through setting up the user, asked about encrypting the home directory, then went back to a blank purple screen. There were a few other occasions where it sat to think for 5 minutes or so, but installation finished ok. (eventually)
[06:05] <BuzzardBuzz> from a thread about the issue in the forums
[06:09] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: this issue is marked sovled in the forums. the 15 minutes is the time it takes to give up trying to mount the floppy that really is not desired anyway
[06:15] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: link to issue thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219435
[06:16] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: is it not fail? just wait 15 mintues, it will continue to installation , is it right?
[06:19] <paszteto> dd
[06:19] <paszteto> dsds
[06:19] <Majki_> Siema
[06:19] <paszteto> yo
[06:19] <Majki_> Karol niech wbije
[06:20] <Majki_> halo halo
[06:21] <Majki_> siema
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> elo
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> co jest?
[06:21] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: there is a chance that it will work after 15 minutes of trying to mount that floppy, then it might give up trying to mount and continue
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> MAJKI TO GEJ
[06:21] <Majki_> Karol pedał
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> Majki siemano
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> dawno cie nie widzialem
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> ziom
[06:21] <Majki_> Karol nie wyłączaj kompa
[06:21] <paszteto> Kurwy
[06:21] <xxkyzyxx> ty cwelu
[06:21] <paszteto> x\D
[06:22] <Majki_> czemu znów to zrobileś ?
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> smieciu
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> bo cie dojade
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> nie wiem jak to bedzie ziom
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> nie wiem jak to bedize ziom
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIE WIEM
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIEWIEM
[06:22] <paszteto> Nie wiem
[06:22] <xxkyzyxx> NIE WIEM
[06:23] <wileee> multiple personality
[06:23] <BuzzardBuzz> is english channel only today i thought
[06:23] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe rules changed?
[06:24] <kazuma_> That last post was something about ctrl f4 or f1 was sort of confused what he was meaning there but might help
[06:27] <ebru> hello everyone, I have a resolution problem on my desktop. I even cant boot because of the problem.
[06:27] <paszteto> alo
[06:28] <ebru> but I can make ssh to the desktop, and change resolution settings with xrandr from remote
[06:29] <alpaca_sida_xD> 69
[06:29] <ebru> and get gdm.
[06:29] <alpaca_sida_xD> hey
[06:30] <ebru> but I cant set this permanently, I added the command to /etc/gdm/Init/default but it does not work for me
[06:30] <ebru> and I added the command to startup application but does not work for me. How can I solve this problem?
[06:33] <Majki_> halo halo
[06:33] <Majki_> jest tam kto ?
[06:42] <chigang> BuzzardBuzz: you are right,  It's just halt for 15 minutes,  thanks very much
[06:55] <quickes> jest kto-to
[06:59] <BuzzardBuzz> chigang: Hope your day goes well :)
[07:06] <oddblogger> JOIN
[07:23] <mmdfc> hi
[07:25] <mmdfc> to install tor is it true ? : sudo apt-get install tor ?
[07:51] <schnuppi_> guten morgen
[07:51] <duckblaster> Can someone help me figure out why xrandr isn't working in Lubuntu?
[07:51] <duckblaster> It wakes up the other screens, but they just show black and the mouse doesn't move to them.
[07:58] <schnuppi_> weis jemand ob ubuntu mit flash gut umgehen kann?
[07:58] <JanetP> how do i import KVM virtual machine on a new pc?
[08:00] <DJones> !de | schnuppi_
[08:00] <schnuppi_> oh sorry
[08:01] <duckblaster> Can someone help me figure out why xrandr isn't working in Lubuntu? Anyone?
[08:04] <dm_comp> duckblaster: are you sure it's a Lubuntu issue? have you tried it on a Ubuntu machine. Also I recommend asking it in Lubuntu channel maybe it's a know bug.
[08:05] <duckblaster> No response in #lubuntu
[08:06] <duckblaster> can't get ubuntu to work, compiz pegged cpu at 100%, couldn't do anything
[08:06] <dm_comp> duckblaster: you also need to be more specific about what the issue is ... not working doesn't mean anything
[08:06] <duckblaster> when I run xrandr --output VGA-1-2 --auto --right-of VGA1 it wakes up VGA-1-2, but shows black instead of desktop
[08:07] <duckblaster> mouse is stuck on VGA1 too
[08:08] <Myrtti> duckblaster: do you have a specific reason of using compiz with LXDE?
[08:08] <duckblaster> no, compiz in stock ubuntu desktop
[08:08] <Myrtti> right
[08:08] <JanetP> how do i import KVM virtual machine on a new pc?
[08:09] <duckblaster> I tried to install ubuntu instead, to see if that made a difference
[08:09] <BlackDalek> I have a external USB soundcard. It is not detected in sound settings as an output device - it only shows as an input device.
[08:13] <dm_comp> duckblaster: try disabling compiz ... I tried running lubuntu but had issues with compiz causing screen tearing
[08:14] <dm_comp> some forums recommend disabling compiz
[08:14] <duckblaster> lubunt runs fine, compiz was when I tried ubuntu to see if dual screens worked
[08:15] <duckblaster> 2GHz dual core with 2GB ram and motherboard graphics not enough for compiz?
[08:15] <duckblaster> sudo lspci -v
[08:16] <erebus^> anyone else experiencing loosing hotkeys after an update? im using ctrl + alt + t to open a terminal, but it suddenly stoped working
[08:16] <erebus^> same for ctrl + alt + l for lock
[08:16] <erebus^> happend before to, had to do a reinstall to get them back
[08:16] <erebus^> they are still defined i settings
[08:16] <dm_comp> erebus^: works for me and i updated today
[08:17] <dm_comp> lock too
[08:17] <erebus^> happend to me on two reinstalls now, i cant format my damn mashine to get back hotkeys!
[08:17] <dm_comp> erebus 15.4?
[08:17] <erebus^> yup
[08:18] <erebus^> alt + tab works
[08:18] <erebus^> know any other ctlr + alt hotkeys i can try?
[08:18] <dm_comp> what happens when you hold down meta-key?
[08:19] <dm_comp> do you get keyboard shortcuts screen?
[08:19] <Bleakwise> so erm, when Ubuntu switches to systemd, does that mean we'll have our config files in /etc/sysconfig/?
[08:19] <erebus^> dm_comp: i do...
[08:20] <Bleakwise> and will we start using systemctl for things instead of /etc/init.d/?
[08:20] <erebus^> ctrl + alt + arrow switches workspace like normal
[08:21] <auronandace> Bleakwise: the switch has already happened in 15.04
[08:21] <Bleakwise> I suppose i'll have to take it for a spin
[08:22] <Bleakwise> i have to say, 14.04 seems to be in an odd spot atm, going from  upstart to systemd might be rough
[08:22] <dm_comp> Bleakwise: 15.04 it's been the most stable linux I've used to date. I'm really impressed by it :)
[08:23] <dm_comp> erebus^ I just updated and everything works... not sure what could be causing to for you ... google is your best bet :(
[08:24] <dm_comp> s/to/it
[08:24] <erebus^> dm_comp: yeah, thanks though
[08:24] <erebus^> has happend early as well, o cant be lates update eighter
[08:25] <erebus^> got word there is a new release tomorrow though, so might be a good time for a fresh install anyway
[08:32] <Lapos> Hello, i'm trying to follow a tutorial to config a pxe server, but if i try to install dhcp3-hpa, it installs isc-dhcp-server instead. And if I try to edit /etc/dhcpd3/dhcpd.conf it doesn't exist, instead exist /etc/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf
[08:32] <Lapos> is this a problem?
[08:35] <bekks> Lapos: No?
[08:35] <Lapos> ?
[08:37] <bekks> Lapos: You asked a yes/no question and got "no" as an answer.
[08:37] <Lapos> ah okey, thx then
[08:46] <Kev1904> Hey guys,  it is possible to launch netfilter (iptables) with synproxy state on routed traffic with 2 different in and outbond devices as Synproxy router.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Kev1904: maybe the ##networking guys can aswer that?
[08:47] <Kev1904> i will ask there, thanks
[08:54] <BlackDalek> I have usb soundcard which identifies as ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset. It worked in Ubuntu 9.04. It does not work in Ubuntu 15.04. Not detected as an output device but does work as input device. How do I get this working?
[08:56] <TJ-> BlackDalek: by 'not detected as an output device' you mean ALSA tools cannot see any output sink on the device?
[08:57] <BlackDalek> TJ-, I mean, in System Settings>Sound> there is nothing under the output tab for it.
[08:57] <BlackDalek> TJ-, it only shows under the input tab
[08:58] <citrix> hey can you explain me how tom linked list data are insert into linked list
[09:01] <TJ-> BlackDalek: It's always best to start with the low-level (terminal) tools to verify what devices/sinks/sources are available, and then work up to the GUI. Often the issue is simply that the system has multiple sound devices and a different device has become the default (without specific rules, first discovered becomes the default)
[09:04] <BlackDalek> TJ-, it lists as a device under lsusb... I can select it as a sound card device using alsamixer, but I can't choose it from the sound settings panel in unity.
[09:05] <citrix> hey can you explain me how to linked list data are insert into linked list
[09:05] <citrix> anyone here
[09:05] <citrix> can you explaiin you?
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> citrix: maybe in ##programming
[09:06] <citrix> yes
[09:06] <citrix>  i hav 4 elements how to store in stack
 can you explain me ??
[09:07] <bekks> citrix: Just ask in ##programming
[09:08] <citrix> yes
[09:09] <BlackDalek> TJ-, how do I verify what devices/sinks/sources are available?
 yes ask in programming
 can u explain me ?
[09:10] <TJ-> BlackDalek: "aplay -l" to show basic devices; "aplay -L" to show all sinks/sources/profiles
[09:10] <bekks> citrix: Ask ##programming.
[09:12] <citrix> i have done create doubly linked list and i want to store element in the stack how can i do ?<bekks>
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> citrix: do you even have ubuntu?
[09:13] <bekks> citrix: Do you understand that this channel is #ubuntu and not ##programming? Asl ##programming please
[09:14] <BlackDalek> TJ-, both aplay -l and -L output details about the USB sound device.
[09:15] <TJ-> BlackDalek: in the '-L' output ensure there are sinks (output profiles) listed. If so, then I'd guess the issue is simply the GUI has the wrong default output selected. Maybe there's a 'mixer config' or similar option to set that?
[09:18] <BlackDalek> TJ-, aplay -L lists various things such as "IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output" and "2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers" etc... where would I find a "mixer config" to select a default output?
[09:23] <TJ-> BlackDalek: Ensure '-L' also lists sinks (outputs) for the headset DEV as well as the system's built-in sound device. I'd assume you should be seeing DEV=0 for the built-in, and DEV=1 for the headset
[09:23] <OnceMe> Hello people, I have managed to retrieve my passphrase for user, however when I run ecryptfs-mount-private and Im asked for login passphrase, I get: Inserted autho tok with sig into session keyring.. open: Permission denied Error locking counter, what can cause this?
[09:28] <aman_> hello any one owns a lenovo Z51-70 laptop
[09:28] <aman_> ?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> aman_, please avoid wasting time with "anyone?" questions.  State YOUR issue with YOUR details for best results.
[09:30] <OnceMe> omg
[09:30] <OnceMe> I retrived access to files
[09:30] <OnceMe> IMMM about to pass out now
[09:30] <OnceMe> whs
[09:30] <OnceMe> qw[
[09:33] <aman_> im unable to use my wifi , tried various stuff and came across this
[09:33] <aman_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1436940
[09:35] <BlackDalek> TJ-, i don't see anything mentioning sinks in -L so I've pasted it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/12884486/
[09:37] <TJ-> BlackDalek: the headset would appear to be the "CARD=Audio" device, which shows several profiles such as surround21 and so forth. So the outputs are there, and the issue must be in the default selected by the GUI mixer. Change the default.
[09:38] <BlackDalek> TJ-, what GUI mixer?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> aman_, yep.  your wfi chip is unsupported.  the bug is still open and unassigned.
[09:41] <BlackDalek> TJ-, how do I "change the default selected by the gui mixer"? The only place I know of to select an output is system settings>sound.... but the device does NOT show in the list of output devices.
[09:42] <linocisco> hi all
[09:43] <linocisco> i have install viber on my ubuntu 15.04. I dont know how to close or quit viber when I am not using like signout or exit
[09:43] <MindSpark> isn't there something similar to setuid/setgid that makes files that are created in a directory belong to a specific owner?
[09:43] <bazhang> !info viber
[09:43] <linocisco> it is still as shortcut on left top corner
[09:43] <MindSpark> regardles which user created them?
[09:44] <linocisco> bazhang, but I could install viber.deb from its website
[09:44] <bazhang> whats viber
[09:44] <linocisco> !info rubyonrails
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !nfo ruby
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !info ruby
[09:45] <linocisco> bazhang, https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=what+is+viber&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[09:45] <bazhang> linocisco, care to tell us here
[09:54] <OnceMe> uhm how can I open nautilus from live session to see all mounted devices?
[09:59] <capsicum1> hi looking for a useful git gui. any recommendations
[09:59] <capsicum1> perhaps giggle
[09:59] <bazhang> apt-cache search git   have a look capsicum1
[10:01] <capsicum1> bazhang, thanks, that what I was afraid. I am lazy and dont want to have to try them all before settling on one of them.
[10:01] <wafflejock> capsicum1: git cola is nice and simple for doing commits and staging or stashing and things
[10:01] <bazhang> capsicum1, try the offtopic channel for polling then
[10:03] <linocisco> hi all, ps -ax | grep application name  and kill -9 xxxx helped me exit
[10:04] <OnceMe> I cant write to my usb from terminal
[10:04] <OnceMe> Im root
[10:05] <mcphail> OnceMe: does your USB drive have a "write protect" tab, and is that switched off?
[10:06] <OnceMe> I dont know, I can cd /cdrom to it
[10:06] <OnceMe> its on /dev/sdb1 and its mounted
[10:07] <mcphail> I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by "I can cd /cdrom to it"
[10:07] <OnceMe> Well its mounted on /cdrom
[10:07] <OnceMe> my usb is mounted on that
[10:13] <OnceMe> mcphail:I need that mount(r,w)o command
[10:13] <OnceMe> bot knows it but cant remember trigger
[10:14] <somsip> !mount | OnceMe (maybe in the link?)
[10:16] <bekks> OnceMe: Is it a live image, or a persistent installation?
[10:16] <OnceMe> live
[10:17] <bekks> OnceMe: Rhen it is readonly, and you cant mount it read-write.
[10:18] <nickk> Hey, linux question: does anyone understand why I don't need a user's password in order to change my effective user id to his?
[10:19] <bekks> nickk: How do you do that, in particular?
[10:19] <nickk> Currently it looks like I can just change my euid to someone else's with "setreuid()"
[10:20] <OnceMe> bekks:well on USB I have linux ubuntu, and I cant transfer my files on it?
[10:21] <bekks> OnceMe: Since it is a live install - no. You need a persistent installation to do so.
[10:21] <OnceMe> or a backup disk?
[10:21] <bekks> Or a backup disk.
[10:21] <OnceMe> eh I guess Im going to buy one
[10:21] <nickk> So I guss I can "fake" ownership of a file by changing to someone else's euid, but why does this not require a password?
[10:21] <OnceMe> how can I check what connector I have sata/ata etc?
[10:21] <bekks> ´BY looking at the connector.
[10:21] <OnceMe> or Ill jusy buy external one
[10:21] <Bogdaniel> hey guys, i shared a few folders with samba in virtualbox ubuntu guest host windows 10 i could see the original files in the folders but the new files that i created on guest i cannot see them
[10:21] <Bogdaniel> can you help me out guys :D
[10:24] <cfhowlett> bekks, actually you *can* save files to a live usb.  filesystem>media>cdrom = the usb
[10:24] <cfhowlett> and is read/write accessible
[10:24] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:but says its read-system only
[10:24] <OnceMe> I tried to make a dir
[10:24] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, sudo mkdir
[10:24] <bekks> cfhowlett: I thought it is an image of an iso, which isnt writable.
[10:25] <cfhowlett> bekks, true.  but the MEDIA cdrom is writable
[10:25] <hateball> OnceMe: dmidecode will tell you pretty much everything
[10:25] <bekks> cfhowlett: ah ok.
[10:28] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:how from chrooted system to access that media?
[10:29] <OnceMe> because under chroot I have tmp media which is unencrypted (with unecrypted files)
[10:29] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, chrooted?  no idea.  i've never used it.
[10:33] <OnceMe> cfhowlett:I still mkdir: cannot create directory backup: Read-only file system
[10:33] <OnceMe> I run sudo mkdir backup
[10:34] <sevag> hello. i'm trying to create a debian package. in my debian/install file i copy config files in /etc/myapp. if i do "dpkg -x myapp.deb" to unpack my debian, it has all the correct config files listed (in /etc/myapp/conf1.conf, conf2.conf, etc.). however, when i actually do 'dpkg -i myapp.deb' to install it, it puts nothing in /etc/myapp. i assume this is some ubuntu config file overwrite protection mechanism - can anybody advise?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, but you can save files to tht usb??
[10:34] <OnceMe> I cantr
[10:35] <OnceMe> Ive made it from iso with startup disk creator
[10:36] <sevag> running dpkg with --force-confmiss --force-confnew did the trick
[10:37] <cfhowlett> OnceMe,  and you're now booted from that USB??
[10:37] <OnceMe> yes
[10:38] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, not sure what's happening, but check you target path:  filesystem > media > cdrom
[10:39] <alian> Hello!
[10:41] <OnceMe> also my mounted unecrypted /tmp/ecrypfs is also read-only system
[10:41] <OnceMe> is there a way to make it rw?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> encrypted!  yeah, that adds another level of complexty.
[10:41] <OnceMe> yeah my system is totally screwed
[10:42] <OnceMe> but at least I got in my files
[10:42] <OnceMe> :)
[10:42] <OnceMe> I could cp * outside of encrypted dir
[10:44] <ducasse> OnceMe: can't you just remount it read-write? 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever'
[10:46] <OnceMe> maybe but nvm I am going to c/p and buy external disk so I can backup everything
[10:47] <OnceMe> better to play safe
[10:47] <OnceMe> should I buy SSD or regular SATA disk?
[10:47] <bekks> OnceMe: Doesnt matter, for backups-
[10:47] <ducasse> OnceMe: for backup, just get a spinning disk
[10:47] <OnceMe> ok thanks
[10:47] <OerHeks> You can encrypt both, OnceMe
[10:48] <OnceMe> btw once Im done with backups, how can I ensure that data on my backup disk cannot be retrieved? After I reformatted it
[10:48] <bekks> OnceMe: Why do you take a backup if you dont want it to be retrieved?
[10:49] <BlackDalek> what alternative GUI mixers are available? I need one which will let me choose the default audio output device.
[10:49] <TJ-> OnceMe: Impressive, didn't think last night you'd really still be here 12 hours later!!
[10:49] <Ian352> join #ubuntu_fr
[10:49] <OnceMe> bekks:once I resync it
[10:49] <OnceMe> I want to destroy it
[10:50] <OnceMe> TJ-:I wasnt
[10:50] <OnceMe> I slept for 10 hours str8 and while I was sleeping I got the idea how could I retrieve passphrase and encrypted files :)
[10:50] <bekks> OnceMe: Then you dont have backups again. Thats nonsense :)
[10:50] <OnceMe> well that and my friend helped me a bit :)
[10:50] <TJ-> OnceMe: as to making an ecryptfs mount writeable; yes, just use "mount -o remount,rw /path/to/mountpoint"
[10:51] <OnceMe> after I resync fiels I want to purge backup disk
[10:52] <bekks> OnceMe: Better use the disk for further backups.
[10:52] <OnceMe> what if it gets stolen?
[10:52] <bekks> OnceMe: Encrypt it.
[10:52] <OnceMe> oh no
[10:52] <OnceMe> not that hell again
[10:53] <bekks> Then dont encrypt it and place it somewhere where it doesnt get stolen.
[10:53] <bekks> OnceMe: Living with backups is just too risky as you've seen.
[10:54] <OnceMe> heh :D
[10:54] <OnceMe> what HDD is the best?
[10:54] <bekks> The one you like most.
[10:54] <OnceMe> SATA3 7200 is what I have currently
[10:55] <linocisco> what can be used as SMS aggregator ?
[10:55] <bekks> linocisco: What is a "SMS aggregator"?
[10:56] <adnauseam> salut comrades. im trying to edit an nginx direcry, located at default (usr/share/nginx/html) - user/group were root:root, but i've changed it to www-data:root. my own user is part of the www-data group - am i always required to sudo everything i do in that directory? how cani make it that i don't need to always sudo ?
[10:57] <OerHeks> !info alamin
[10:57] <Mion> adnauseam: don't do that, it makes no sense to do it
[10:57] <Mion> adnauseam: what are you *actually* trying to do?
[10:57] <hateball> adnauseam: also, it's user:group
[10:58] <adnauseam> i am trying to setup a webserver to work in
[10:58] <Mion> adnauseam: and why are you messing around in /usr/share?
[10:58] <adnauseam> i installed nginx, now trying to work in its directory.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !server | adnauseam
[10:58] <Mion> and that doesn't explain what you are *actually* trying to do
[10:59] <adnauseam> nginx has its default in /usr/share
[10:59] <Mion> adnauseam: are you just trying to set the dir it hosts content from?
[10:59] <adnauseam> yes
[10:59] <Mion> adnauseam: use /src
[10:59] <adnauseam> and work in - dev
[10:59] <Mion> /srv*
[10:59] <Mion> it is what it was created for
[10:59] <adnauseam> roger, change nginx root to /srv
[10:59] <Mion> and use acl
[10:59] <adnauseam> will man acl
[10:59] <BlackDalek> how do I make this USB audio device work? it does not show up in the sound settings. It is Device 019: ID 0d8c:0006 C-Media Electronics, Inc. Storm HP-USB500 5.1 Headset
[10:59] <Mion> I suggest /srv/http/<site>
[11:00] <Mion> BlackDalek: most just work ™
[11:00] <Mion> since most talk standard protocols
[11:00] <adnauseam> the reason i'm always using /usr/share is because i couldn't change it in nginx's own configs. perhaps the permissions were off but it wouldn't read my index.html
[11:00] <Mion> BlackDalek: aplay -l
[11:01] <BlackDalek> Mion, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12884486/
[11:02] <Mion> adnauseam: you can change it
[11:02] <Mion> adnauseam: and /usr/share is *never* the correct place to host from
[11:02] <Mion> the ubuntu docs even tells you to use /srv in their example config
[11:02] <Mion> though the docs are outdated
[11:02] <adnauseam> by the way - /srv/ is root:root itself.
[11:02] <Mion> you should use a subdir as I said
[11:02] <Mion> preferably one per site
[11:02] <BlackDalek> Mion aplay lists the device, but I still can't choose it from the sound settigs gui
[11:02] <adnauseam> outdated shouldn't be a problem if it's enough ot get me going - as to root:root, is it ok to chown to my own user ?
[11:03] <adnauseam> or stick to www-data
[11:03] <Mion> BlackDalek: check the pulse mixer
[11:03] <Mion> pavucontrol
[11:04] <Mion> adnauseam: don't change the permission on /srv itself
[11:04] <Mion> create /srv/http/somesite and set the permission on that so that your user can read/write to it
[11:04] <adnauseam> roger
[11:04] <BlackDalek> Mion, what pulse mixer?
[11:04] <Mion> and ofcourse so that the user you run nginx as also can
[11:04] <Mion> BlackDalek: 13:03:38       Mion ╡ pavucontrol
[11:04] <Mion> BlackDalek: or pacmd/ponymix/whatever
[11:05] <Mion> adnauseam: I suggest using acl for it, it makes life easier
[11:06] <adnauseam> i will look into acl - never used it before
[11:07] <adnauseam> btw, thank <3
[11:10] <adnauseam> another issue, i've set /boot to 100mb, and a system update complained that there isn't space. i can't resize /boot. what's the best way to go about this ?
[11:11] <BlackDalek> Mion.. it shows up in pavucontrol but I see no way to choose it as the output device. Any clues?
[11:11] <Ben64> thats really small for /boot
[11:12] <bekks> adnauseam: use a bigger /boot. Why cant you resize your partitions?
[11:12] <BlackDalek> Mion, as far as I can tell all pavucontrol does is show me devices available and lets me move level sliders.. but beyond that it seems to be functionally useless.
[11:13] <Mion> BlackDalek: it is far from useless
[11:13] <Mion> BlackDalek: if you can see your device in there, then you can route to it
[11:13] <adnauseam> bekks: they're in serial progression, after boot comes / @ 100gb, and the rest is @ /home.  /boot is sitting at the start
[11:13] <BlackDalek> Mion, that sounds promising... how do I route to my device?
[11:13] <bekks> adnauseam: And why cant you resize them?
[11:14] <Mion> BlackDalek: while you are playing somethign with sound, go to the playback tab and just select the device you want for the stream you want
[11:14] <Mion> or set the default playback device in the output device tab
[11:14] <adnauseam> i cant resize /boot in particular because it's sitting at in the beginning. im considering taking a cunk from the end of /home and renaming it to /boot. can i copy /boot to that partition and hve it work or would htat shoot up my boot loader ?
[11:15] <bekks> adnauseam: Of course you can resize your partitions.
[11:15] <adnauseam> gparted ins't the tool for that then - how would you go about it ?
[11:15] <bekks> adnauseam: Resize all partitoins so you get free space after /boot.
[11:15] <bekks> gparted is the tool for it.
[11:15] <adnauseam> hmm, ill take a second look
[11:15] <hateball> adnauseam: you need to liveboot, you cant resize mounted partitions
[11:16] <adnauseam> oh thank you hateball, now i understand why gparted wont let it me do it
[11:17] <adnauseam> an issue for another day then - the system is functional for now
[11:18] <BlackDalek> Mion, ok... figured out how to select the device in pavucontrol while sound is playiing... the level indicator is displaying activity, but no sound coming out of speakers.
[11:18] <Mion> BlackDalek: check the output mode
[11:18] <Mion> and that the headphones are actually working :)
[11:19] <Mion> with some surround headsets you have to change the mode in the configuration tab for it
[11:19] <Mion> depending on the audio source
[11:22] <BlackDalek> Mion there are 3 options in the configuration tab for the device or "off". None of these option produce any sound
[11:23] <Mion> check that it is not muted in the output devices tab
[11:23] <Mion> you will get a moving bar in the playback tab even if it is muted in output devices
[11:24] <BlackDalek> Mion, checked... it is not muted.
[11:26] <OnceMe> should I install linux or windows 8 first?
[11:27] <OnceMe> will win 8 screw my grub..?
[11:27] <EriC^^> OnceMe: win8 then linux
[11:27] <bekks> !dualboot | OnceMe
[11:28] <OnceMe> ok good
[11:28] <OnceMe> ill come back for more instructions, need to buy hdd now :D
[11:28] <OnceMe> btw 14.04 is available to auto detect my drivers? I dont need that fglrx anymore fo rmy amd?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> OnceMe: its reccomended to install ubuntu with cable + updates enabled
[11:31] <OnceMe> what with cable means?
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> OnceMe: cable internet or wifi
[11:31] <OnceMe> ok i have dat
[11:32] <Mion> OnceMe: if you want usable 3d performance out of anything modern then you need fgrlx
[11:32] <Mion> OnceMe: uefi capable system btw?
[11:34] <BlackDalek> Mion, have we reached another dead end? This device last worked back in ubuntu 9.04 and has not worked in any ubuntu OS since. Google search reveals no solution but seems to confirm it is a known bug which apparently has been ignored, probably due to lack of interest.
[11:35] <BlackDalek> Mion, looks like no one wants to fix the issue, so it gets ignored with each new release. :(
[11:35] <Mion> BlackDalek: sure it is not a hardware issue?
[11:35] <Mion> test it on another machine
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you can always try asking in ##linux too if someone had same issue on your device
[11:38] <OnceMe> Mion:hey well
[11:38] <OnceMe> I cant see any graphics when login to ubuntu
[11:39] <OnceMe> I mean internal gpu works, but my amd radeon doesnt, without driver
[11:39] <OnceMe> how to check if is uefi ?
[11:39] <TJ-> BlackDalek: you could try using the ALSA "speaker-test"
[11:39] <OnceMe> I GPT'd it yesterday
[11:39] <OnceMe> but not sure what is the best one, gpt mbr uefi efi
[11:39] <OnceMe> tbh I dont know the difference between those
[11:39] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[11:39] <OnceMe> EriC^^:on live session?
[11:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:40] <EriC^^> it'll tell you if you're booted in uefi mode
[11:40] <OnceMe> I have efivars systab and vars
[11:40] <Mion> OnceMe: if you use uefi then it doesn't matter which os you install first
[11:40] <BlackDalek> Mion, it is a hardware issue in that the USB hardware does not work with this OS. All my systems run Ubuntu 15.04 now. A laptop, a PC, an intel Mac. All same result with this device.
[11:40] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so you're booted in uefi mode
[11:40] <Mion> if you use old school bios or horriblem CMS then it does, because windows will nuke any existing bootloader in that case
[11:41] <EriC^^> Mion: actually it does, windows will still change the boot order, so he'll need to use a live usb to change that
[11:41] <EriC^^> ( unless he has a uefi menu that he can use to boot ubuntu then grub-install )
[11:41] <Mion> EriC^^: he can just mash f8 or whatever during boot
[11:42] <Mion> all sane hardware have a boot selector menu
[11:42] <OnceMe> EriC^^:I have weird bios though
[11:42] <OnceMe> all graphical, never seen that befroe
[11:42] <Mion> or he can change the order from windows
[11:42] <OnceMe> and I have 3 disks from some reason, and I should have one
[11:42] <Mion> windows has a tool for poking at the uefi boot table
[11:42] <OnceMe> I could take a pic later on when I backup stuff
[11:43] <EriC^^> OnceMe: nothing is installed yet?
[11:43] <OnceMe> it is
[11:43] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:43] <OnceMe> no I have bunch of partitions
[11:43] <EriC^^> it'll show you the disks and partitions and pastebin them, paste the link here
[11:43] <OnceMe> I dont even know what is what for
[11:43] <OnceMe> is that -l
[11:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:44] <BlackDalek> what is speaker-test expecting after the -D option? a device ID number?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: might be interesting to dmesg and syslog in realtime while plugin your usb
[11:44] <OnceMe> b0nf
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:44] <OnceMe> EriC^^:termbin.com/b0nf
[11:45] <EriC^^> OnceMe: oh, wow
[11:46] <EriC^^> OnceMe: are you booted in the ubuntu session right now or live usb?
[11:46] <OnceMe> I was retarded and had separate boot home efi swap
[11:46] <OnceMe> everything separated
[11:46] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes
[11:46] <EriC^^> ubuntu or live usb?
[11:46] <bekks> OnceMe: Thats not retarded, but required.
[11:46] <OnceMe> live usb
[11:46] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so right now windows just boots directly?
[11:46] <OnceMe> no
[11:46] <OnceMe> right now I cant access neithr ubuntu nor windows
[11:46] <OnceMe> something is badly broken
[11:47] <OnceMe> boot repair didnt helped
[11:47] <OnceMe> Im thinking of destroying all partitions
[11:47] <OnceMe> and starting all over
[11:47] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:47] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr first though
[11:48] <absklb> hi
[11:48] <absklb> how to install latest npm in 14.04
[11:48] <absklb> one in repo is 1.3. i want 2.5
[11:48] <OnceMe> EriC^^:can that way
[11:48] <OnceMe> till I buy hdd and backup evertyhing
[11:48] <OnceMe> then I can play whatever you want :D
[11:49] <EriC^^> OnceMe: that just shows the efi boot manager
[11:49] <cfhowlett> !newest | absklb
[11:50] <absklb> cfhowlett: tell that to Canvas LMS team. not to me.
[11:50] <absklb> thanks.
[11:50] <EriC^^> OnceMe: it installs it to the live session not the actual pc btw
[11:51] <OerHeks> absklb, where do you find npm 2.5? https://nodejs.org/download/release/npm/
[11:55] <OnceMe> EriC^^:termbin.com/uw21
[11:56] <hamza> quick question, do you find the Ubuntu LTS kernel to be incompatable with the mumble package? i do, mumble does not work for the latest LTS kernel
[11:56] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, Is there anything significant in here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885176/
[11:56] <bekks> hamza: So which mumble package version and which kernel version do you use?
[11:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: looks like it's booting the ubuntu efi file first
[11:56] <EriC^^> OnceMe: what happens when you start the pc right now?
[11:57] <OnceMe> i get usb live session ubuntu
[11:57] <hamza> bekks: kernel version is LTS "3.13.0-66-generic", mumble's version is provided from the repository "mumble	1.2.4-0.2ubuntu1.1"
[11:58] <bekks> hamza: Sounds like you want to install the latest hardware enablement stack first, to get a somehow more recent kernel. :)
[11:58] <EriC^^> OnceMe: did you try booting without the usb plugged in?
[11:58] <OnceMe> yes
[11:58] <OnceMe> I get grub
[11:58] <OnceMe> but as you can see I have "3" disks in bios
[11:58] <OnceMe> when in fact I have one physical
[11:58] <OnceMe> whats happening?
[11:58] <absklb> OerHeks: Canvas LMS
[11:58] <hamza> bekks: good one, i thought LTS stands for long term support
[11:59] <EriC^^> OnceMe: what do you mean by grub? a grub menu?
[11:59] <hamza> so i would use that
[11:59] <bekks> hamza: Do you know what the HWE does and what it is for? Sounds like "no".
[11:59] <absklb> OerHeks: while installing npm its giving me error that i have 1.3 but it needs 2.5
[11:59] <OerHeks> absklb, i think you need to build it yourself,  else reask in #ubuntu-server
[11:59] <absklb> ok
[11:59] <hamza> bekks: no
[12:00] <bekks> hamza: Then please refrain from mocking about it and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack first.
[12:00] <OnceMe> EriC^^:yes
[12:00] <EriC^^> OnceMe: so ubuntu boots fine and so does windows?
[12:00] <EriC^^> i thought you said neither work
[12:00] <OnceMe> nope
[12:00] <OnceMe> neither boots fine
[12:01] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so what happens when you choose ubuntu
[12:01] <EriC^^> OnceMe: those aren't disks in the bios, those are just efi files on the same disk and usb
[12:01] <OnceMe> I want to purge efi
[12:01] <OnceMe> and just uefi
[12:01] <OnceMe> how to accomplish that?
[12:01] <bekks> OnceMe: efi is uefi.
[12:02] <OnceMe> when I select ubuntu nothing happens, I get initrframs
[12:02] <OnceMe> ok and what is uefi?
[12:02] <bekks> !uefi | OnceMe
[12:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: did you install this on another pc and then plug the hdd here?
[12:02] <OnceMe> no
[12:02] <OnceMe> I did all on my machine
[12:02] <EriC^^> OnceMe: ok, so what happens when you boot windows?
[12:04] <OnceMe> thats even worse
[12:04] <OnceMe> I get unknown filetype system
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: is this usb 2.0 port?
[12:05] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I guess so. how can I tell?
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: this doesnt look to good: kernel: [36792.250196] usb 1-1.2: cannot submit urb 0, error -28: not enough bandwidth
[12:06] <OnceMe> EriC^^:is current setup good for new fresh win 8 and ubuntu install?
[12:06] <OnceMe> also how can I remove ubuntu disk/uefi in bios?
[12:06] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, what does that even mean?
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: yeah, reinstall windows then ubuntu
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: sudo efibootmgr -b -B 0000
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: not sure but smells like your device cant get enough bandwith to work properly
[12:07] <EriC^^> OnceMe: actually, sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0000
[12:08] <hamza> thanks bekks , i will upgrade my kernel
[12:09] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I can't smell anything... but an LED on the device flashes when an app is playing sound.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: but your device doesnt work properly?
[12:10] <TJ-> BlackDalek: "URB" is a USB request block. If the USB controller/port doesn't have enough bandwidth the kernel will report "cannot submit urb" with error -28. Try a different USB port, which may be on an alternative controller
[12:10] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, correct. no sound output.
[12:11] <linelevel> Hi... so I accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff from my user's home directory on my server... but not ~/.ssh (that's still intact, including `authorized_keys`). However, now when I try to SSH into the server, I get "Permission denied (publickey)." -- How should I go about troubleshooting this to figure out why I cannot connect?
[12:12] <linelevel> Note that I can still get filesystem access by stopping the VM and mounting the root volume on a different VM.
[12:12] <BlackDalek> TJ-, I only have 3 USB ports to choose from.. cannot get a peep out of the device on any of them.
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> linelevel: maybe the #openssh guys can troubleshoot this?
[12:12] <linelevel> lotuspsychje: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: are you connecting through an usb hub?
[12:13] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no - I do not have a hub. I only have the ports on this laptop (or ports on the other computers).
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: might be worth trying on an usb 3.0 with ubuntu somewhere perhaps
[12:15] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, speaker of usb 2.0 and 3.0... how do I determine which of these my USB ports are?
[12:15] <BlackDalek> speaking*
[12:16] <auronandace> usb3 is blue
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lookup your pc sheet specs
[12:17] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, so it is impossible to tell USB version through some kind of handy terminal command?
[12:17] <BlackDalek> :(
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lusb
[12:18] <OnceMe> EriC^^:will u be here in a 2 hours?
[12:18] <OnceMe> I really need to go out and buy hdd now for a backup
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: lsusb sorry
[12:19] <absklb> how can i add new user from recovery root prompt? it gives cannot lock /etc/group code 10 exiting
[12:19] <EriC^^> OnceMe: maybe, yeah
[12:19] <EriC^^> absklb: did you remount rw first?
[12:20] <absklb> EriC^^: no. what to remount?
[12:20] <EriC^^> absklb: mount -o remount,rw /
[12:21] <absklb> EriC^^: that works. thankn. why i have to do that btw?
[12:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885281/
[12:21] <EriC^^> absklb: cause it's mounted read only at first
[12:21] <absklb> ok
[12:21] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I unplugged all USB devices before the lsusb
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: 2.0 root hub
[12:22] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yep
[12:22] <psychic_> hey guys
[12:23] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, so are you saying ubuntu might think this device requires USB 3.0 to work, despite it working (according to google) on windows PCs and Ubuntu 9.04 or under?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <shelly_> hello
[12:24] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, as far as I can tell from my research, support for this device broke at 9.10
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i didnt conclude that no, i just looked at your logs and suggest you could try another usb port that might not have that bandwith warning
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: have you tested your device on LTS?
[12:26] <alian> hello!play GTA5?
[12:26] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok. Thanks for elaborating.
[12:27] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, no I haven't.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i strongly suggest you try
[12:29] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, is 14.04 LTS the currently available LTS? no 15.04 LTS?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !trusty | BlackDalek
[12:30] <auronandace> BlackDalek: LTS is every 2 years, 14.04 is the current one
[12:31] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok.. well in that case I DID try that release, and the sound device had same issue back then as I recall.
[12:31] <thecyclone> auronandace: how long does ubuntu support its LTS versions?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: back 'then' might be long time ago and perhaps not fully updated to 14.04.3
[12:31] <auronandace> thecyclone: 5 years
[12:32] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ah. I see. I will procure a live CD of 14.04.3 and boot from that.
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: great and check your logs from there, anything related to your usb device
[12:34] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, I will have to do that another day. It's late here and I've wasted enough hours on this already.
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: wasted or learned
[12:35] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, learned one or two things... don't feel like I've made much progress though :/
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: persistent investigation might lead you to solve
[12:37] <linocisco> useless ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 3443
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: try a real question mate
[12:37] <linocisco> whenever I was typing the cursor is moving random at any destination and typed texts are wrong or gone
[12:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont mean it is moving every second. It moves at any time at any destination like I am typing in IRC chat texbox -
[12:39] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, it happens in any text box
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ubuntu version?
[12:40] <linocisco> or anywhere I am typing. I didn't touch touchpad I swear.
[12:40] <linocisco> the cursor is still with me but the problem is pointer which goes anywhere randomly
[12:40] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, 15.04
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: tested this on LTS?
[12:42] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I was with 14.04 LTS and some drivers are  not ok with my laptop model. so upgraded to 15.04 and most are fine but the only major problems I am with is pointer problem and the other is nm-applet crash problem at startup
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: wich drivers were bad on trusty?
[12:43] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, wifi , gui, i guess
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: but you didnt have that pointer problem?
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: what wifi chipset is that?
[12:44] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, GUI graphic is the worst problem so I can't check anything else
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: i would go back to lts, but your choice you can add bugs to 15.04 or try 15.10 in 2 days
[12:45] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, the problem i can't install and remove as I like is that I have very limited internet and expensive to use. so I can't change frequently or download much frequently
[12:45] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont know where to check like sys log
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: or browse the GUI logviewer icon
[12:46] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, if i pastebin here, can you check?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ill be bbl soon, but sure
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: others might be able to look also
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, also some files in /var/crash
[12:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, what should I paste?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: lets start with syslog
[12:51] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885423/
[12:52] <Gamoder_> Hi, does anybody know whether it is possible to run ubuntu from an external hard drive connected to a nvidia shield TV?
[12:52] <Gamoder_> (or from an SD-card?)
[12:53] <Babier> hola
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[12:54] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I dont understand well
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: acpi and memory issues so far
[12:55] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, so how can I fix?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: and nouveau warnings
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> have to go now mate
[12:55] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, umm ok. thanks anyway
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: re-ask your issue, ubuntu version and paste here in chat
[12:56] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, ok
[12:57] <linocisco> whenever I was typing the cursor is moving random at any destination and typed texts are wrong or gone, version 15.04 x86
[12:57] <JesseH> I managed to get it so that I could start lightdm but it's stuck in 640x480. gdm just shows a black screen. Going to try some older nvidia drivers for this card
[12:58] <bekks> linocisco: Fingers to close at the mouse stick/touchpad ?
[13:16] <thresh> is there a GM for 15.10 iso somewhere?  will be out of town tomorrow.. :)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> thresh, GM iso ?
[13:18] <Pinkamena_D> I notice when I add an entry to /etc/hosts, the hostname will autocomplete for me in BASH. Can I add just the name but without the ip address (look up from dns) so I can get the completeion?
[13:18] <thresh> BluesKaj: gold master, aka release .iso
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> thresh  what's a gold master .iso?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> thresh, there are daily images available http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:20] <Pici> thresh: it won't be done until tomorrow.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yeah < i've never hear of a gold master whatever that's supposed to be
[13:20] <thresh> mmkay thanks
[13:21] <ducasse> Pinkamena_D: no, you will need to add an ip address
[13:24] <Pinkamena_D> IS there any other place I can add the hostnames for autocomplete?
[13:24] <hans_> good afernoon
[13:24] <hans_> i have a server question
[13:25] <hans_> i want to set my ipadress on static but  how must i save a file in a server
[13:26] <ducasse> Pinkamena_D: not that I know. unless you edit the bash_completion scripts to look up from a table in addition to /etc/hosts. you could always google to see if someone has done that already.
[13:27] <gigajohn5t> hi
[13:28] <crystalgrid> hello
[13:30] <Kartagis> a few months ago, I was helped about screen tear and now I've got http://termbin.com/v72v in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. however, it is still happening. what do I do?
[13:31] <linocisco> bekks, no .  I dont touch. I care about it
[13:32] <Pinkamena_D> hans_, $ sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces Change eth0 entry to something like: https://bpaste.net/show/972504aa7165
[13:33] <Pinkamena_D> Make sure you leave a terminal logged in or have a physical keyboard and monitor ready incase something messes up
[13:34] <Pinkamena_D> Then after you edit the file and save $ sudo service networking restart
[13:37] <ismail72> salut
[13:40] <OnceMe> ok, got a new backup disk Transcend with 1TB of free space
[13:41] <hans_> thx
[13:42] <hans_> how can i automount my nas disk to the server
[13:43] <hateball> !fstab | hans_
[13:44] <hans_> i no that gygs but normal i use gedit/ect/fstab but that wont work in a server
[13:45] <yacc> What's the recommended way to get rid of an umount that is going crazy (>98% CPU usage as top reports it)?
[13:45] <hateball> hans_: So use nano or another editor of your choice
[13:45] <yacc> (the USB drive was shutdown for some tim)
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> hans_  sudo -e /etc/fstab
[13:46] <hans_> thx monky the -e dus the trik
[13:46] <hans_> its my first sever im a noob
[13:50] <hans_> i f.ck it up
[13:51] <hans_> i can start over again
[13:51] <bekks> hans_: Why?
[13:51] <FierceDeityLink> i want to use my own domain and nameserver values and not from dhcp. how do i do that?
[13:51] <hans_> i have change the fstab
[13:52] <bekks> hans_: So what did you change, exactly?
[13:53] <hans_> i put the nas drives ip in it
[13:53] <hans_> the same way i do whit my desktop
[13:53] <bekks> hans_: Thats a description of your intention, but not a description of what you actually did.
[13:54] <bekks> hans_: Pastebin your /etc/fstab and provide the URL for your pastebin here.
[13:54] <hans_> ok
[13:54] <hans_> but i cant start him now
[13:54] <bekks> Why not?
[13:55] <hans_> connect to host  port 22: Connection refused
[13:55] <hans_> i must learn it the hard way i think
[13:55] <hans_> ihihihihi
[13:55] <bekks> hans_: So go to the server, and look whats going on.
[13:56] <hans_> its a nuc
[13:56] <bekks> And?
[13:57] <hans_> nothing i have put the powercabel out
[13:57] <hans_> and get the same answer
[13:57] <trumpler> can I ask linux mint question here ?
[13:57] <bekks> hans_: Which doesnt solve problems.
[13:58] <bekks> !mint | trumpler
[13:58] <hans_> nop
[13:58] <hans_> it think i must install it over again
[13:58] <trumpler> thanks everyone !
[13:58] <hans_> i will send a apstbin from what i dit
[13:58] <bekks> hans_: You dont. You just have to connect a monitor and a keyboard and look whats going on...
[13:59] <bekks> hans_: you cant pastebin what you did, since it is powered off currently.
[13:59] <hans_> i will take a look
[14:07] <hans_> i think a have solf it
[14:07] <hans_> must press S after i modifi the fstab
[14:16] <hans_> thx for the help till now boys and girls
[14:16] <testubuntu> I need some help
[14:17] <testubuntu> I have hdparm my hss  without NULL
[14:17] <testubuntu> hdd*
[14:17] <testubuntu> and  I lost the password
[14:17] <testubuntu> my hdd is locked
[14:18] <OnceMe> what is the best way to backup hole /home/ dir to external disk?
[14:18] <OnceMe> I used cp but its too slow, maybe rsync>
[14:18] <Ben64> rsync is good
[14:18] <Ben64> external drives are almost always slow though
[14:18] <tmkt> why is utopic missing from http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[14:18] <jpds> OnceMe: rsync, rdiff-backup
[14:18] <OnceMe> Will rsync -av /home /media/Transcend/backup/ work?
[14:18] <tmkt> and archive.ubuntu.com ?
[14:18] <Ben64> tmkt: its EOL, dead, kaput, time to upgrade
[14:19] <tmkt> can't do updates or do-release-upgrade
[14:19] <tmkt> can't....since i'm getting 404s when i do-release-upgrade
[14:19] <jpds> tmkt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases - EOL months ago
[14:19] <tmkt> so i manually modified my apt files
[14:20] <tmkt> thats why i'm in here..because i can't update my box
[14:20] <jpds> tmkt: You should still be able to upgrade from it to 15.04
[14:20] <tmkt> unless i manually modify sources.list
[14:20] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | tmkt
[14:20] <tmkt> ubottu: do-release-upgrade is broken because of this
[14:20] <Ben64> read the link.
[14:21] <tmkt> yeah..thats what i ended up doing
[14:21] <Ben64> then whats the problem
[14:21] <tmkt> why break do-release-upgrade
[14:21] <Ben64> because it went EOL in July
[14:22] <tmkt> and make it more complicated then it should be for people
[14:22] <tmkt> yeah..but its not even a year old
[14:22] <Ben64> yep, non LTS releases are supported for 9 months
[14:23] <tmkt> Ok..i assumed it was 12
[14:23] <zetheroo> I have a bash script in my home directory which I would like to be executed on login - can I do this through Startup Applications?
[14:23] <tmkt> thanks
[14:23] <EriC^^> zetheroo: yeah
[14:24] <zetheroo>  EriC^^:  I am just not sure of the command - should it be "sh /path/to/file" or "./path/to/file" ... or something else?
[14:24] <fabio> Hello everyone! Im connected trough ssh to an ubuntu machine. How do i start google chrome on their desktop enviroment?
[14:24] <tmkt> why is lucid available on those dists? its EOL also
[14:24] <EriC^^> zetheroo: depends on the script, if it has a shebang just use /absolute/path/to/script
[14:24] <Ben64> tmkt: it isn't EOL for servers until 2017
[14:24] <Guest92276> !
[14:25] <tmkt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases Server April 30th, 2015
[14:25] <Ben64> wait
[14:25] <mcphail> zetheroo: not the second one
[14:25] <Ben64> yeah i was thinking precise
[14:25] <EriC^^> zetheroo: if it doesn't have a shebang use bash or sh /path/to/script depending on what it's written for
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <misaka00251> Well, how to install ubuntu into USB disk?
[14:25] <Ben64> tmkt: to give a bit of extra time to upgrade normally, just like 14.10
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <Guest92276> hello all , i want to find metasploit folder path , please help me
[14:25] <reisio> Guest92276: hi, hi, hi
[14:25] <Ben64> Guest92276: exactly the way to not get help
[14:25] <mcphail> Guest92276: stop that please
[14:25] <reisio> Guest92276: dpkg -L metasploit
[14:26] <tmkt> yeah...should have been the same for utopic..:)
[14:26] <tmkt> no matter
[14:26] <tmkt> its upgrading now
[14:26] <Ben64> tmkt: it was! support ended July, the servers went off this month
[14:26] <tmkt> just a better error message from do-release-upgrade would probably be better
[14:26] <zetheroo>  EriC^^: this is the script .. it's to keep gvfs mounts alive http://paste.ubuntu.com/12885943/
[14:26] <tmkt> ah just this month
[14:27] <Ben64> tmkt: i agree though, should have a message explaining it
[14:27] <tmkt> never spend much time on that box its my htpc, but with 15.2 of kodi out i was wondering why no upgrades were happening
[14:27] <reisio> oh yeah 15.2?
[14:27] <reisio> I wonder what it's got
[14:29] <EriC^^> zetheroo: ok, use /path/to/script
[14:29] <zetheroo> EriC^^: ok thanks!
[14:31] <EriC^^> zetheroo: no problem
[14:39] <thatguy> how are these tools called where you just press a button and then start typing and search through your apps/documents etc (like gnome3 has standard implemented)
[14:40] <thatguy> and is there something like that for lxde?
[14:42] <hhhh> sudo apt-get install i3-wm will install i3, right?
[14:42] <Pici> hhhh: yes.
[14:42] <somsip> !info i3=wm | hhhh
[14:42] <somsip> !info i3-wm | hhhh
[14:42] <somsip> hhhh: sure looks like it
[14:42] <hhhh> Is it possible to install i3-gaps in a simillar way?  I've had a tonne of pain installing the gaps.
[14:42] <somsip> !find i3 | hhhh
[14:44] <hhhh> Last time I installed i3, my xorg wasn't automatically executed - how can I make this happen?
[14:44] <somsip> hhhh: xorg.conf you mean? That's sourced by X, not the WM
[14:45] <hhhh> Yeah, that's the one.  But for everyone else (online) it seems to be that xorg auto execs without problem
[14:45] <hhhh> It works on unity, but when switching to i3 I have to go the X11 folder and exec the thing manually myself
[14:46] <somsip> hhhh: on a standard install, there is no xorg.conf. But if you have one, not sure why the problem you describe with unity/i3 woudl occur
[14:46] <hhhh> I definitely have an xorg.conf
[14:46] <hhhh> That aside, does anyone know how to install i3gaps?
[14:48] <mustmodify> having a brain fart. I used this tool once... an apache foundation tool I think... two letters, one may have been a q... to load test websites. You could give it parameters like how many requests at a time, how many total requests, and it would come back with some numbers like 5th percentile, 10th percentile, blah, average, stdev response times.
[14:48] <mustmodify> anyone know the name of that tool?
[14:48] <somsip> !info ab | mustmodify
[14:48] <mustmodify> #fail
[14:48] <somsip> mustmodify: ab - apache bench. Part of apache tools I think
[14:48] <mustmodify> ok thanks
[14:48] <mustmodify> somsip: sounds kind of familiar, thanks.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> hhhh, i3gaps?, i3 is in the repos
[14:50] <hhhh> Is it not clear what I mean by i3gaps?
[14:50] <SchrodingersScat> !info apache2-utils | mustmodify
[14:58] <dave420> i have hexchat installed, but when i go to edit popup.conf it won't let me make changes to it and save it.  anyone have ideas? i checked permissions, everything looks normal.
[14:58] <Kartagis> a few months ago, I was helped about screen tear and now I've got http://termbin.com/v72v in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. however, it is still happening. what do I do? UPDATE: looking in logs, I found out I need to disable compiz to prevent screen tearing. how do I do that?
[14:59] <hhhh> Yo, I'm trying to follow the install instructions here : https://github.com/ivyl/i3-config/blob/master/README.md
[15:00] <hhhh> I fail at the 2nd step, which reads git clone https://github.com/ivy1/i3-config.git .i3
[15:00] <roxlu> Hey! I'm trying to setup the following. I want to create a directory where all new files get the same group as the directory. I managed to get this working by setting the +s permission for the group. Though now I want that new files can also be delete by members of the group. I would think umask can used for this, but this doesn't seem to work.  I tried using "umask 0000" but event that didn't give the group the correct permissions.
[15:01] <somsip> hhhh: if there's a git repo, you should be contacting the owner for advice
[15:01] <reisio> roxlu: you could use ACLs
[15:02] <roxlu> Can't I do this with umask ?
[15:03] <Kartagis> hhhh: what is stopping you?
[15:05] <kora> how to install openjdk-7-jdk from command line ?
[15:07] <mcphail> roxlu: umask is tricky. There are at least 3 different implementations
[15:08] <mcphail> roxlu: including one hard-coded into nautilus which doesn't respect the others (when I last checked)
[15:11] <mcphail> roxlu: actually, by the look of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/242618 it may have been fixed, so ignore my spite towards nautilus
[15:12] <OnceMe> EriC^^:here?
[15:12] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:13] <OnceMe> ok good, Im stil backing up /home/ however Ill backup whole / syste,
[15:13] <OnceMe> except for /proc /dev and all that not needed stuff
[15:13] <EriC^^> ok
[15:13] <OnceMe> but my home is pretty big, 200GB+ so it might take a while
[15:14] <OnceMe> while I wait, have you seen my system bootmgr etc?
[15:14] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:14] <OnceMe> Is that all setted properly or I need to take attention on something while installing win8 and then ubuntu?
[15:14] <EriC^^> it's ok, just install win8, make sure it boots properly first
[15:14] <EriC^^> then install ubuntu
[15:15] <OnceMe> ok, and what about that uefi/efi thing?
[15:15] <OnceMe> is uefi started first?
[15:15] <OnceMe> and what about my gpu drivers?
[15:16] <EriC^^> it'll sort itself out, you can check drivers after you install
[15:16] <EriC^^> just make sure you boot win8 in uefi mode, and ubuntu too
[15:16] <OnceMe> ok so I should install ubuntu 14.04 trusty?
[15:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:16] <OnceMe> yeah that, how can I ensure that?
[15:17] <OnceMe> that its booted in uefi mode?
[15:17] <dupingping> hi, who is ubuntu member?
[15:17] <dupingping> i'm a new member.
[15:18] <EriC^^> OnceMe: in win8 you could check that its making an esp or efi partition in the partitioner
[15:18] <teward> !offtopic | dupingping
[15:18] <EriC^^> for ubuntu type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi to see if it's booted in uefi mode
[15:19] <OnceMe> EriC^^:how can I type that in live bootable usb?
[15:19] <OnceMe> also how can I destroy all partitions first
[15:19] <OnceMe> or win8 will do that for me?
[15:20] <OnceMe> alsod oes ubuntu 14.04 comes with latest nginx php5.6 and maria/mysql?
[15:20] <OnceMe> !ppa
[15:21] <Obelus> OnceMe: Windows 8 should let you choose to delete any existing partitions in the setup, IIRC. Haven't fresh installed 8 for a while.
[15:21] <EriC^^> OnceMe: you can do that in the win8 partitioner
[15:21] <OnceMe> ok goood
[15:21] <OnceMe> and then to make efi partitions only right?
[15:22] <OnceMe> not uefi?
[15:22] <EriC^^> OnceMe: win8 should create the esp or efi partition for you, and ubuntu should use the win8 one
[15:22] <EriC^^> efi is uefi, same thing
[15:22] <OnceMe> ok good
[15:22] <OnceMe> ubuntu will use free space partition
[15:22] <OnceMe> which is not partitioned I guess
[15:22] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:23] <OnceMe> so I dont partition it fully
[15:23] <OnceMe> I just make 1 ntfs and one will be auto system reserved
[15:23] <EriC^^> yeah it's probably efi partition, maybe system something, and ntfs one, and leave the rest for ubuntu
[15:23] <EriC^^> let it do it itself, and you can always shrink it later from win8
[15:24] <OnceMe> ok
[15:25] <OnceMe> let me find win 8 disc now :D
[15:25] <OnceMe> brb
[15:29] <mtottenh> has anyone here has experience using sgdisk? I'm trying to create a GPT partition table like so -n 1:0M:2M -n 2:2M:4096M but it errors with 'Could not create partition 2 from xx to xx"
[15:29] <davidmichaelkarr> What is the difference between what "update-manager" shows, and what "apt-get update" shows?
[15:31] <Kitt3n> I installed ubuntu on a computer with a Nvidia geforce 210, the liveCD works fine, but when I rebooted after installing it, it flickers and then the monitor turns off
[15:32] <TJ-> mtottenh: you want partition 2 to be 4094MiB long?
[15:33] <mtottenh> 4096Mib long yes.
[15:33] <mtottenh> Oh I see.
[15:33] <mtottenh> Theres an error with my math there.
[15:34] <TJ-> mtottenh: use +2048M for a relative-from-start value
[15:35] <TJ-> mtottenh: but I doubt that is the cause of your issue; more likely the #1 end and #2 start being the same number. I'm not sure if sgdisk is intelligent enough to adjust those absolute values to be +1 sector for the start of #2
[15:35] <mtottenh> I see.
[15:37] <TJ-> mtottenh: how about "-n 1:0M:2M -n 2+0:+4096M"
[15:37] <plugyn> hi
[15:37] <TJ-> mtottenh: oops, grr, typo. "-n 1:0M:2M -n 2:+0:+4096M"
[15:37] <plugyn> I'm using ufw, any idea why it's not allowing websites? I allowed port 80, but it's still denying any website i try to load.
[15:38] <aleim> hello there, just as I erased a partition on a drive, the following happened to a second external drive that was connected and shown in disk utility: its volumes disappeared and changed to "no media", but the disk is still listed among devices..and the partitions are still mounted as I see in file manager (even tested with gparted, they are there)..is this incident known to anyone?
[15:39] <TJ-> plugyn: what is blocked? input or output or both?
[15:40] <plugyn> should be nothing blocked
[15:40] <plugyn> sudo ufw status >>> ufw allow 22; ufw allow 80
[15:40] <TJ-> plugyn: the web-sites are using HTTP, not HTTPS (port 443) ?
[15:41] <plugyn> ah. that's probably it.
[15:41] <plugyn> let me try.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n,  at the blank screen drop to a VT/TTY by using ctl+alt+F1 -F6, login then, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade , then sudo apt install nvidia-340
[15:41] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I want nouveau :)
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, I have the same video gpu ...why nouveau?
[15:42] <plugyn> that didn't work :(
[15:42] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, because I don't really need it, I only have it because the integrated GPU is fried
[15:43] <BluesKaj> you don't really need what?
[15:43] <Kitt3n> but okay, I'll try!
[15:43] <Kitt3n> the big clunky nvidia driver :D
[15:43] <mcphail> Kitt3n: you caould try forcing a resolution for nouveau
[15:43] <BluesKaj> it's not big and clunky. it's fast and stable
[15:44] <Kitt3n> erm...
[15:45] <Kitt3n> this is strange, switching to another tty showed the console login for a second, then I got the normal login screen o_O
[15:45] <Kitt3n> well okay
[15:45] <fennesz> hello everyone ! I am currently descibing a program tha copies files from a folder . It only copies the files with a specified prefix e.g. ABC2015.txt . I want to describe that the program shall have a configurable prefix for example one could define the program to copy files begining with BCD2014.txt. How can I describe this in proper English ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> you have 6 available VTs aka ttys
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n,^
[15:46] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I know! I am not a newbie, but I've never touched nvidia on linux :)
[15:46] <Kitt3n> but it switched from the console login automatically to a graphical one without the driver
[15:46] <Kitt3n> and it's glitchy
[15:47] <mcphail> Kitt3n: last time I used nouveau on a 210 it was horrid
[15:47] <Kitt3n> Ah.
[15:47] <Kitt3n> well, installing nvidia-340 then!
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, think a reboot would have been in order
[15:47] <mcphail> Kitt3n: but there have been a lot of improvements in the driver since then
[15:48] <Kitt3n> I'll reboot when it's installed, and hope it works
[15:48] <PanV> daftykins: After some careful reading about the link you sent me, I googled it a bit then I found a How To Geek article.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> the 340 was always a decent driver on my pcs, but I'm a KDE/plasma guy so your experience may be different:-)
[15:49] <PanV> "You should also back up your mount passphrase ahead of time" What does it mean? Check the article I read this http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[15:50] <PanV> Also, how to get into a nautilus window?
[15:51] <TJ-> PanV: with encrypted home, when first created the tools prompt to record the master passphrase BEFORE something goes wrong
[15:51] <PanV> What is the "master passphrase"? Is it the thing that you do... like passwd command?
[15:51] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, 4 yellow dots, is that normal?
[15:52] <mcphail> Kitt3n: you don't get a splash with the nvidia driver
[15:52] <HackerII> Kitt3n,  what card do you have
[15:52] <Kitt3n> A super old geforce 210 :D
[15:52] <BluesKaj> mcphail, yes you do get a quick spalsh
[15:53] <Kitt3n> because the sandy bridge i3's gpu is fried and doesn't work so. :D
[15:53] <HackerII> from experience, maybe the 173 driver would work with that old of a card Kitt3n
[15:53] <mcphail> BluesKaj: yes, but not the Ubuntu splash screen
[15:53] <Kitt3n> 340 works fine
[15:53] <TJ-> PanV: when using encryption a master key ( pass-phrase ) is used to actually encrypt the data. That key is protected by being 'wrapped' with further encryption using the user's password as the wrapper key. If the user forgets/changes their password the master key cannot be unwrapped
[15:53] <TheEagerPadawan> looking through manpages to learn some more flags of the common used commands, i stumbled upon cp -a and it isn't clear from the man pages what this does
[15:54] <HackerII> ok ki, i was understanding you didnt like it, cool beans then
[15:54] <PanV> TJ-: Is this password the password that Ubuntu makes me enter everytime I get/login to my account or the password I use to login? If I do the master passphrase wrong, will anything go wrong?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, what's the actual gpu series number
[15:55] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, no clue!
[15:55] <TJ-> PanV: user password > unwraps master pass-phrase > unlocks encryped content
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, lspci | grep VGA
[15:55] <Kitt3n> sure!
[15:56] <gerep> I'm creating a user via an application but I need this user to be a NOPASSWD, is there a way of doing that using 'useradd' ?
[15:56] <ic_> Hello everyone , may I ask assistance regarding reboot(2) ? I would like to have this call from <linux/reboot.h> "reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1, LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC2C, LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_RESTART2, "/sbin/poweroff");" but upon compiling a different syscall from <sys/reboot.h> get specified .
[15:57] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, GT218 GeForce 210
[15:57] <ic_> It still is reboot(2) , but with only one parameter .
[15:57] <Nyterax> um I'm trying to create a password protected 7z archive but the password field is disabled?
[15:57] <PanV> TJ-: Master Pass-Phrase is? I get a password field which I gotta enter, different from the Login one. Is this the "master-passphrase"?
[15:58] <compdoc> do you have permission to save the archive, wherever that location is?
[15:58] <PanV> TJ-: I remember user password. I am not sure about master one because I don't know what this is.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, this is what i get, NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3] (rev a2)
[15:58] <aleim> can anyone help please? strange things are happening with my external drives!
[15:59] <TJ-> PanV: I'm not sure what you're referring to. But if you've recently changed the user account password manually, the prompt is probably wanting the previous user account password
[15:59] <mwic> Anyone here pretty good with VSFTP? I got a server going but even though chroot_local_user=YES the user can still see directories outisde of her home ..
[15:59] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, sec, upgrading packages, will give you the whole string
[15:59] <PanV> TJ-: Wait a second
[15:59] <Bastichou> Hey there, I need to shrink my partition (using lvm2). Should I shrink my filesystem (ext4) before perform th lvreduce ??
[16:00] <Nyterax> compdoc, I can create a non-password protected archive there without problems
[16:00] <Nyterax> so.. I guess?
[16:00] <compdoc> guess so
[16:00] <Nyterax> oh I can add a password afterwards
[16:00] <TJ-> Bastichou: Yes, or see "man lvreduce" and its "--resizefs"
[16:00] <Nyterax> or not... 'An error occurred while saving the archive'
[16:01] <PanV> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/3.png << When I get in my desktop, it asks for a second password. I enter it and I can click at my files or type.
[16:01] <PanV> TJ-:
[16:02] <compdoc> Nyterax, does it need an addtional compression or encryption library/program installed?
[16:02] <Nyterax> not sure. I could create a regular 7z archive out of the box
[16:03] <TJ-> PanV: what is that image supposed to show, besides the desktop?
[16:04] <PanV> It is supposed to ask for a password. But if you don't know anything about it it doesn't matter.. since I guess you know how to decrypt the /home/ derictory.
[16:09] <PanV> so.. TJ-
[16:09] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[16:09] <TJ-> PanV: encrypted home's aren't encrypted /home/, that would be LUKS-dm-crypt. ecryptfs encrypts /home/$USER/, but putting the encrypted files/filenames under /home/.ecrpytfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/ and the wrapped pass-phrase under /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private/
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, interesting the geforce 210 has been around for a while, my 8400gs uses the same chip and it's only 2yrs old, mind you it's an entry level card
[16:11] <TJ-> PanV: during log-in, pam_ecryptfs tries to unwrap the master pass-phrase stored in /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase using the user account's password
[16:11] <PanV> TJ-: Could you help me get started? It's not necessary but I am a noob at following tutorials rather than following directions... How many stuff did I burn/destroy by following tutorials? oh wait not so many, I just had to reinstall AMD graphics like 15 times. Because people kept saying I should use fglrx...
[16:11] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, I found mine in a computer stone age computer at work that they were throwing on the trash heap.
[16:12] <PanV> TJ-: So.. how can I get started by decrypting the /$HOME folder?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, well it's worth every penny then :-)
[16:13] <Kitt3n> BluesKaj, yep, especially when the integrated gpu doesn't work :)...
[16:13] <TJ-> PanV: As I asked earlier, have you recently changed the user's password?
[16:13] <gigino> ciao
[16:13] <gigino> !lista
[16:14] <PanV> TJ-: No.
[16:14] <PanV> Complicated answer: Why would I do that?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> Kitt3n, the integrated gpu is an intel right, it's surprising that it's fried , they're usually quite reliable
[16:14] <PanV> BluesKaj: Intel graphics can get fried? Interesting..
[16:15] <TJ-> PanV: Because changing the password is one way that can cause the ecryptfs unlock to fail, until the ecryptfs wrapped-passphrase is synchronised with the new password.
[16:15] <PanV> BluesKaj: Any hardware can get fried but not 'burned'? Perhaps some stuff at translation..
[16:15] <Kitt3n> PanV, yep, if I connect a VGA cable to the onboard port, there's simply no signal
[16:15] <PanV> TJ-: Kitt3n Installed another graphics card?
[16:15] <Kitt3n> Yep. :) geforce 210 :)
[16:16] <PanV> Kitt3n: For me the intel graphics dont work since I got an other graphics card, with a different input
[16:16] <Kitt3n> CPU works totally fine, which is quite odd
[16:16] <PanV> The graphics card has an other input. It's not the same.
[16:16] <PanV> BRB
[16:16] <Kitt3n> it came without a PCI-E graphics card, only using the integrated one.
[16:17] <PanV>  pci-e = ?
[16:17] <Kitt3n> PCI express?
[16:17] <PanV> brb
[16:18] <loa> how i can temporarely disable loading of my nvidia driver?
[16:18] <loa> delete it from dkms?
[16:19] <TJ-> loa: blacklist it
[16:19] <Atiros> hola
[16:21] <insya> hello everyone, I am using a live ubuntu cd and want to install gksu, but it says unable to locate the package, even if I enabled universe.
[16:22] <PanV> Kitt3n: I just remembered. PCI is the place where you connect stuff like graphics card
[16:22] <stobix> insya: and you have, of course, updated the package list after enabling universe?
[16:22] <Kitt3n> PanV, PCI is the old standard, PCI-E is what's used mainly now ;)
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: Oh yes :P Sorry my brain is not workign right now.
[16:23] <Kitt3n> :P
[16:23] <insya> stobix, by apt-get update?
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: This is the #Ubuntu channel. I doubt this is an Ubuntu related problem, but you are the first guy that I am able to help XD
[16:23] <PanV> Kitt3n: You can also go to ##hardware
[16:24] <insya> stobix, thank you, it worked now
[16:24] <PanV> Kitt3n: If you connect the graphics card to PCI-E then Intel Integrated Graphics get disabled, until it is disconnected.
[16:24] <Kitt3n> PanV, I had to connect the nvidia card BECAUSE the integrated gpu doesn't work
[16:25] <stobix> insya: good. :) An easy thing to miss.
[16:25] <Kitt3n> integrated without nvidia = no display.
[16:25] <Atiros> un buen programa para ubuntu indispensable
[16:25] <PanV> Kitt3n: Oh. Unable to help then.
[16:25] <PanV> ##hardware
[16:25] <PanV> Kitt3n: I thought I would actually help somebody :c
[16:25] <Kitt3n> there's nothing I can do to make it work, I've tried XD
[16:25] <k1l> !es | Atiros
[16:25] <Kitt3n> would have to replace the cpu for that, which I don't wanna do
[16:26] <PanV> Kitt3n: Do you want to fix your graphics? Perhaps you can ask ##Hardware, they know way more about me regards hardware. and ubuntu probably :P
[16:26] <Kitt3n> Neh. I got the computer for free so and I've already tried looking into fixing it
[16:27] <PanV> Kitt3n: Free computer? Send me the computer if you can't fix it :P And go to ##hardware chat before you do that.
[16:27] <PanV> !ubuntu | Kitt3n
[16:27] <insya> stobix, have a good day, thank you again!
[16:27] <PanV> Oh, fail command
[16:27] <Guest19831> I welcome myself to Xchat
[16:27] <Kitt3n> PanV, it WORKS, I am not messing with it now that I've gotten it working!
[16:28] <PanV> Kitt3n: Wait, does it work or no? If yes why are ya here?
[16:28] <PanV> Let's continue chat in  /msg, this is irrevelant with ubuntu
[16:29] <nix__> I am currently using Ubuntu 14.04.03. When Ubuntu 15.10 gets released, should I upgrade?
[16:29] <k1l> nix__: you need to do 3 upgrades from 14.04 to 15.10.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> nix__, it will have to be a clean install
[16:30] <nix__> BluesKaj: Yeah, I'm aware of that. But should I? Are there any benefits?
[16:30] <k1l> nix__: and why dont you wait for the LTS to LTS (14.04 to 16.04) upgrade instead
[16:31] <Leonitus> I would imagine the new releases would be buggy
[16:31] <k1l> Leonitus: no need to
[16:32] <elijahr> i'm trying to reference two parent directories back with a parameter... something like $convertfile thisfile.ext %d.newfile where %d would give me the parent directory of the current working directory
[16:32] <stobix> A question: If I could temporarily uninstall and reinstall udev, it would probably solve my dependency hell. Problem is that uninstalling udev means uninstalling everything that depends on udev. Is there a way to circumvent this?
[16:32] <OerHeks> Leonitus, new releases can fix things that cannot be fixed now :-)
[16:33] <OerHeks> stobix, why not skip the uninstall step, and reinstall right away ?
[16:33] <elijahr> if I use %d, it just gives me the current working directory, not the parent directory. btw this is for the nautilus-actions configuration tool
[16:33] <stobix> OerHeks: Sounds nice. How?
[16:34] <stobix> OerHeks: the problem I have is (probably) that the postinstall script exits with an unknown error. Someone suggested that I remove the package, purge any remaining files and reinstall it.
[16:34] <OerHeks> stobix, sudo apt-get install --reinstall udev
[16:35] <stobix> Ah.
[16:35] <OerHeks> not sure why you think reinstall fix your issue
[16:35] <stobix> Well, wouldn't hurt to try. :)
[16:35] <PanV> TJ-: are you able to help?
[16:36] <elijahr> I can't find a list or explanation on how to use the % parameters anywhere
[16:36] <elijahr> the legend shows me the symbol for (first) base directory, but I guess I am looking for the second base directory
[16:38] <stobix> OerHeks: I assume the people suggesting that I reinstall it thought it would fix whatever script that is broken.
[16:38] <stobix> OerHeks: That does not seem to be the case, however.
[16:40] <stobix> OerHeks: What I'm trying to solve: dpkg --configure says that " subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:40] <stobix> "
[16:40] <stobix> (dpkg --configure udev, that is)
[16:41] <OerHeks> stobix, what exactly is going wrong with 'scripts' ?? can you post that error on  use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:41] <OerHeks> "assumption" about "the people" about "whatever script " is not informative at all.
[16:42] <stobix> OerHeks: sure, which output do you want? dpkg --configure udev ?
[16:42] <Starn> i am not sure what happened to my ubuntu install but the software center doesn't work anymore.  i can't get it to load or install packages even from the web where the packages are not in the apt-get listings.  i accidentally stopped aptd and the software center finally loaded up. but after start aptd the ubunutu software center will freeze. does anyone have any idea as to what's going on?
[16:42] <OerHeks> stobix, no, about the failing scripts, the original issue you came up with
[16:43] <Starn> also aptd uses 20 to 50% cpu at all times when it's running.
[16:44] <Starn> which it's always running in the background
[16:44] <stobix> OerHeks: Hm. The thing that caused this to begin with is that I tried to upgrade to 14.10, which failed because the gui method (update-manager) it couldn't find any sources. I then did a do-release-upgrade instead, which directly went for vivid. I didn't make the connection between "vivid" and "15.04" until it was a bit too late.
[16:45] <stobix> So, basically, do-release-upgrade tried to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly, and I'm now trying to fix the resulting dependency hell.
[16:45] <OerHeks> stobix, oh, that can be fixed, 14.10 ie EOL, so you need the old-releases trick, see ubottu
[16:45] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[16:45] <OerHeks> ie-is
[16:46] <intrader> I want to install cint, but the package manager does not find it - can anyone help locate a download site?
[16:46] <stobix> OerHeks: oh, nice. Let's hope it says how to fix this. :)
[16:46] <k1l> !info cint
[16:47] <Pici> intrader: what is cint?
[16:47] <intrader> a c++ interpreter
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/406483/unable-to-install-cint-on-ubuntu-12-04
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> ?
[16:47] <stobix> OerHeks: right now, my system thinks it's vivid, but it fails to configure or install anything because of dependencies not yet being configured. My hypothesis is that I need to find the "bottom most" package (if such a package exists) and cofigure it.
[16:48] <jpds> intrader: It's not packaged at all on Ubuntu
[16:48]  * stobix reads the link
[16:49] <jpds> intrader: Actually, apparently it's in the root-system-bin package
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !find cint
[16:49] <intrader> jpds, too bad, as it is quite useful to interpret the language directly instead of compile,link,etc. What is the root-system-bin package?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !info root-system-bin
[16:50] <k1l> intrader: iirc its in root-system-bin included
[16:51] <marcinlawnik> Is this a good channel to ask a tar syntax question?
[16:51] <mrvadon> maybe
[16:51] <intrader> kll, ubottu, how do I locate the package for cint in the root-system-bin?
[16:52] <k1l> intrader: that is already the package
[16:52] <hhhhh> I have an i3-wm question.  I installed i3 from the command line - it won't interpret the config as I expect though.
[16:52] <intrader> k1l, what do you mean?
[16:52] <marcinlawnik> I'll try then. I'm trying to make a tar backup of a vps, but the syntax I'm using is wrong.
[16:52] <marcinlawnik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12886882/
[16:53] <hhhhh> Website reads - "mouse_warping none" as an appropriate command to disable mouse warping, but my config output reads: ERROR: CONFIG: Line 178: mouse_warping none
[16:53] <hhhhh> ERROR: CONFIG:           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:53] <hhhhh> ERROR: CONFIG: Line 179:
[16:53] <hhhhh>
[16:53] <cynixx3> !eol14
[16:53] <auronandace> hhhhh: i3 have a channel on a different network, check their website to find the irc network and channel
[16:53] <hhhhh> :O
[16:53] <hhhhh> Thanks.
[16:54] <k1l> !eol | cynixx3
[16:55] <k1l> intrader: the package is the root-system-bin. there are no more packages inside packages.
[16:56] <bluesfreak72> Hi there.  I've been googling around for a tutorial on rooting my Samsung Galaxy S5 Mini using ubuntu, but haven't found anything.  I have installed android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot.
[16:57] <marcinlawnik> bluesfreak72, check xda-developers.com
[16:57] <intrader> k1l, thanks I try location root-system-bin
[16:57] <k1l> bluesfreak72: you will need specific programs and howtos for your device. better see the samsung s5 mini community on how to root your device
[16:58] <bluesfreak72> k1l:  I'll check them out.  Thanks.
[16:59] <Starn> any one know why aptd is making ubuntu software center not work?
[16:59] <lynxer10> Hey guys good afternoon
[17:01] <intrader> quit
[17:01] <intrader> help
[17:02] <croziors> hi
[17:02] <lynxer10> I'm having some Msg on my Ubuntu start up "starting version 219" and it's making my boot time too slow anyone knows how to fix it?
[17:03] <croziors> hello
[17:03] <croziors> auto lo
[17:03] <croziors> iface lo inet loopback
[17:03] <croziors>    not work :s
[17:03] <bekks> croziors: What exactly is "not work" on that?
[17:03] <croziors> interface
[17:04] <croziors> ifup: interface lo already configured
[17:04] <croziors>  but i don t see in ifconfig LO
[17:04] <bekks> "interface" is a word out of context. Can you form a full sentence?
[17:04] <stobix> OerHeks: my problem right now: apt-get dist-upgrade can't configure udev, so it exists unsuccessfully. The only error I get is that "dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[17:04] <croziors> ping <IP_ADDRESS> not work
[17:04] <croziors> but eth0 work
[17:04] <stobix> OerHeks: it also gives me a "supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Ubuntu release: 15.04" before that
[17:05] <bekks> croziors: Pastebin the entire output of "cat /etc/hosts; cat /etc/issue; cat /etc/network/interfaces; ifconfig -a" please.
[17:05] <pepijndevos_> I installed Jack, but now my normal sound does no longer work. Any idea what to do?
[17:05] <auronandace> stobix: a botched upgrade would be a nightmare to piece apart, it really is a whole lot easier to backup what you need and fresh install
[17:06] <stobix> auronandace: I guess. I am actually burning a 15.04 dvd right now. (and a gentoo one, since I won't ever have this problem in gentoo.)
[17:07] <stobix> auronandace: it would be nice if I could keep my home folder. Is this possible when reinstalling ubuntu?
[17:07] <croziors> http://pastebin.com/LqzFhW6s
[17:07]  * stobix has just moved everything out of his encrypted user to a new user with an unencrypted home folder, just to be on the safe side.
[17:07] <auronandace> stobix: sure, you just need to make sure any config files don't conflict
[17:08]  * stobix does not, however, have a 260 GiB dvd to backup his data to.
[17:08] <stobix> auronandace: oh, so it might overwrite config files but keeps the rest intact?
[17:08] <auronandace> stobix: external harddrives are handy as one means of local backup
[17:09] <stobix> Yeah. Can't conjure up an empty one right now, though.
[17:09] <ineedtoscholarsh> What's the difference between Minimal (Non-X Support) Ubuntu driver and regular driver?
[17:11] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: X is the graphical system you're (supposedly) currently using. If you only use your machine in text mode, you won't need support for X.
[17:12] <stobix> ineedtoscholarsh: since you need to ask the question, I think it's safe to assume that you'd want to have the regular driver of whatever it is you're talking about.
[17:12] <croziors> bekks ?
[17:12] <auronandace> stobix: sorry, i meant that your current config files in home might conflict with the new installation. Since you won't be formatting home then the configs will not be overwritten
[17:12] <croziors> hmm
[17:12] <stobix> auronandace: ah. sounds safe enough then. (What Could Go Wrong™)
[17:12] <croziors> i know i have modify hosts
[17:12] <croziors> :)
[17:13] <gh16ito> I'm trying to back up using Deja Dup, and after a while it gives me this error: "Giving up after 5 attempts. Error: g-io-error-quark: Error opening file '/u1/home/duplicity-full.20151021T163951Z.vol200.difftar.gz': Read-only file system (21)"
[17:13] <auronandace> stobix: up to you if you want to use another username to have a fresh account and copy over what you need from the old user, that may be the safest route
[17:13] <ineedtoscholarsh> stobix : i have a amd graphic Radeon R4 graphic   wich one of these i have to insall ?
[17:13] <gh16ito> It created a bunch of diftar volumes, so I don't think it's a permissions issue.
[17:14] <gh16ito> It created exactly 200 difftar volumes, actually.
[17:14] <gh16ito> Actually, maybe it's something to do with the cord, let me try that.