[15:51] <Adran> alternatively sudo egrep -i "Network|NM|wifi" /var/log/messages
[15:51] <cap_> Adran, okay. need to do the journalctl if im login to that network provided by the asus router?
[15:51] <Adran> cap_: you said that you cannot connect to wifi, which means there's a problem with connecting before you're on that network
[15:52] <Adran> if you are actually on the network but cannot access the router, then thats an entirely different set of troubleshooting steps.
[15:52] <Adran> for the first, you need to try to connect, so logs are generated to see why its failing
[15:52] <cap_> Adran, okay. i cant connect to the asus router, cant connect to wifi.
[15:53] <cap_> Adran, im still waiting for the result for grep
[15:55] <cap_> Adran, hmm it's taking so long..
[15:59] <Adran> cap_: thats a bit annoying.
[15:59] <JimBuntu> Adran, maybe `sudo egrep -i "Network|NM|wifi" /var/log/kern.log` ?
[15:59] <Adran> ^ cap_
[16:00] <Adran> I usually use journalctl so I don't know where ubuntu puts log files these days (i also use a custom syslog configuration)
[16:00] <JimBuntu> I don't think there is a /var/log/messages any more, at least I don't interact with one.
[16:01] <hggdh> /var/log/messages was moved into /var/log/syslog many releases ago
[16:01] <JimBuntu> Adran, oddity is... why would it simply hang on that command?
[16:02] <cap_> JimBuntu, what should i be looking for in the kern.log?
[16:02] <Adran> cap_: Anything NetworkManager/Wifi Related
[16:02] <JimBuntu> cap_,  You should pastebin it... https://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <cap_> Adran, no result it just hang.
[16:02] <Adran> cap_: I'm kinda with JimBuntu, upload you /var/log/syslog
[16:03] <Adran> And we can try to guide you through what the problem is.
[16:04] <nacc> JimBuntu: what command is hanging?
[16:05] <JimBuntu> nacc, cap_ ran 'sudo egrep -i "Network|NM|wifi" /var/log/messages' and it hung... we know there is no messages file, but I'm confused why it hun
[16:05] <CheetahPixie> So
[16:05] <CheetahPixie> I have a problem here
[16:05] <CheetahPixie> I just updated to Bionic.
[16:05] <JimBuntu> nacc, we are awaiting the upload of either 'sudo egrep -i "Network|NM|wifi" /var/log/kern.log' or the /var/log/syslog
[16:05] <compdoc> uh oh
[16:06] <CheetahPixie> My problem right now is the fact that one of my monitors on my RX480 is not turning on.
[16:06] <cap_> JimBuntu, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FHyb8JTBty/
[16:06] <CheetahPixie> And, well
[16:06] <CheetahPixie> I want it back on.
[16:06] <RoadRunner|2> Can't connect to internet: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WrmPqZR5fP/
[16:06] <CheetahPixie> It works in the BIOS, so the card isn't broken.
[16:06] <CheetahPixie> What could be wrong?
[16:07] <CheetahPixie> This is on amdgpu drivers, by the way.
[16:08] <CheetahPixie> Anyone?
[16:09] <compdoc> the amdgpu drivers from before the upgrade?
[16:10] <CheetahPixie> compdoc: I did a full system upgrade. I thought they updated amdgpu too?
[16:10] <CheetahPixie> (as they should, what with this being a new kernel)
[16:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> hey
[16:11] <CheetahPixie> I tried updating via UKUU to 4.15, no dice.
[16:11] <ask-ygU5AP56> I want a particular program to use local dir libs first, then system wide libs
[16:11] <CheetahPixie> No ideas?
[16:12] <cap_> how do i mention a user here?
[16:12] <ask-ygU5AP56> I try w/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=local_dir:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./app
[16:12] <ask-ygU5AP56> no go
[16:12] <JimBuntu> Sorry cap_ , something came up - peeps, please check this for wifi connectivity issues - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FHyb8JTBty/
[16:15] <cap_> JimBuntu, thank u.
[16:18] <JimBuntu> So others know, what is the name of the ASUS network?
[16:18] <cap_> JimBuntu, asus router ssid is wifico
[16:20] <metro> why isn't the Synaptic Package Manager part of Ubunut ??
[16:20] <metro> *Ubuntu*
[16:21] <JimBuntu> cap_  state change: ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
[16:21] <webmind> The ubu nut
[16:21] <oerheks> metro, it is, just not standard installed
[16:21] <tgm4883> !info synaptic | metro it is
[16:21] <oerheks> !info synaptic
[16:21] <cap_> JimBuntu, how did that happened?
[16:21] <JimBuntu> I'm only guessing, but I think perhaps MAC based permissions. Or perhaps you are out of available DHCP entries (I have seen this before).
[16:22] <JimBuntu> I would have expected the reset of the router to clear those, but I know sometimes they aren't and you have to wait X hours
[16:22] <cap_> JimBuntu, hmm.  but mac address is permanent on a device?
[16:24] <cap_> JimBuntu, thank u. i'll try to reset the asus router tomorrow, i'll save all the saved mac entries from the people who used the router.
[16:25] <cap_> JimBuntu, i'll update u if ever it fixed or not. thank u. its running late now here, need to sleep. thank u guys.
[16:27] <JimBuntu> Have a great night cap_. You may find that the router simply corrupted your MAC in it's tables. Good thing to check for AND... MACs aren't permenant.
[16:34] <CheetahPixie> Nobody?
[16:34] <CheetahPixie> My computer is not picking up this screen, no matter what.
[16:35] <xar-> CheetahPixie: this is a support channel driven mostly by volunteers, if no one knows the answer, it's doubtful you'll get any response, have you tried the ubuntu forums in the mean time?
[16:36] <badsekter> is ubuntu still all the rage?
[16:42] <leftyfb> badsekter: your question is not a support question. Feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:44] <omarv> Hi all, could someone tell me what is the channel to ask about Docker CE installation on Ubuntu Bionic(18.04) ?? thanks...
[16:46] <EriC^^> omarv: try /msg alis list docker
[16:56] <JimBuntu> CheetahPixie, I have the same video card, I can try using a USB bootable with 18.04, but not for about 5+ hours :(
[16:57] <JimBuntu> I was already planning to upgrade the primary drive on that very machine tonight/tomorrow as well.
[16:58] <omarv> Eric: Sorry I can´t understand you..
[17:01] <JimBuntu> omarv, type in what EriC^^ said, starting with the forward slash...
[17:01] <JimBuntu> alis is a function to help you find a list of channels with docker in the name
[17:02] <omarv> ok
[17:06] <bart__> 18.04 release is great, well done. Only issue I've seen is when you enter a wrong password at the login screen, then you get just purple screen.
[17:10] <tytan> Hello everyone, when I try to create a network bridge on ubuntu server 18.04 the boot process get's very slow. It's waiting for some network stuff then ...
[17:22] <omarp> Hi all, could someone tell me what is the right channel # to solve a question about Docker CE installation on Ubuntu Bionic(18.04) ?? ,,I have a problem trying to find the repository : https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu ,,thanks
[17:24] <tomreyn> omarp: how do you mean you can't "find it"?
[17:28] <CheetahPixie> JimBuntu: Any idea of how to actually turn the thing back on?
[17:29] <oerheks> omarp, the instructions are pretty clear, https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/#set-up-the-repository
[17:30] <CheetahPixie> Alright, kernel downgrade go.
[17:30] <matjam> does anyone have a problem with google chrome fonts vertical spacing being too small?
[17:30] <matjam> on some fonts, not all
[17:31] <matjam> view-source:http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Includes_and_Autodocs_3._guide/node0000.html
[17:31] <matjam> is a good example
[17:31] <omarp> tomreyn: when I try to add the repo using the command sudo add-apt-repository \  "deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu \ $(lsb_release -cs) \  stable"  ,  it show some errors i.e. : Err:24 https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/bionic/stable bionic Release 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 443]
[17:31] <matjam> you can see the first line kind of disappears off the top of the page and every line is crammed
[17:32] <matjam> I've fiddled with font settings but this has been this way since I installed clean
[17:32] <SSMAdmin> 18.04 server with ubuntu-desktop installed.  Have lost control with network connections, it may appear that Network Manager is no longer in control of the network connections. How can I investigate and fix it (revert it back) to Network Manger control?
[17:34] <omarp> oerheks: yes,but this is for Xenial 16.04 (LTS) , and I have 18.04(Bionic) ..I'm not sure if this docker CE version works with 18.04 ubuntu
[17:35] <tomreyn> omarp: that's weird, since the release file is ther eon the server this hostname resolves to for you.
[17:35] <SSMAdmin> In /etc/NetworkManager.conf I see [ifupdown]
[17:35] <SSMAdmin> managed=false  Could I try setting this to managed=true without destroying anything, and maybe fix the problem?
[17:36] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: oh yes, indeed!
[17:36] <tomreyn> good find
[17:36] <tomreyn> i forgot about this setting
[17:36] <SSMAdmin> tl
[17:36] <SSMAdmin> tl
[17:37] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, box rebooted, now we will see :-)
[17:38] <ash_work> is there a way to check if `deb ... bionic stable` is a valid repo?
[17:38] <tomreyn> omarp: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zzQJxWMvbw/
[17:39] <JimBuntu> CheetahPixie, does it work if you boot from 16.04 ?
[17:39] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, did not work
[17:40] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: :-/ a pity. see if you can create a new profile, though. delete the existing one, create a new one.
[17:40] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, maybe I need to change something else to make that command in effect?
[17:41] <nacc> SSMAdmin: managed under the ifupdown section
[17:41] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, for testing I can just create an extra ordinary user profile?
[17:41] <nacc> SSMAdmin: are you using e/n/i ?
[17:41] <omarp> tomreyn:may be I have a mistake in curl command, I will try again..
[17:41] <SSMAdmin> nacc, I have no idea, I am not a tech, just trying to fix this: https://pastbin.smartskandalen.info/raw/hugadufuxo
[17:42] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: a connectionprofile in network manager is what i meant
[17:42] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, how to do that?
[17:42] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: and yes, you can just create a new one.
[17:42] <SoniEx2> can I use netctl on Ubuntu?
[17:43] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: using the top right corner GUI elements, as before
[17:43] <nacc> SoniEx2: what is netctl?
[17:43] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, I still have no access to the "Network" Wired connections part of that area, only VPN and Proxy settings shows up
[17:43] <SoniEx2> better than NetworkManager
[17:44] <ducasse> nacc: an arch thing, i think
[17:44] <nacc> SoniEx2: no, it's an arch thing
[17:44] <nacc> ducasse: yeah you're right
[17:44] <SoniEx2> it's an arch project
[17:44] <oerheks> wicd-curses > https://askubuntu.com/questions/891885/is-there-a-wifi-menu-from-arch-linux-equivalent-in-ubuntu
[17:44] <SoniEx2> that doesn't make it "an arch thing"
[17:45] <nacc> SoniEx2: ... well it's only available on arch afaik
[17:45] <nacc> SoniEx2: if the arch developers want to make an ubuntu package, i'm sure they would be welcome to
[17:46] <tomreyn> SSMAdmin: well i'm out of ideas. try to sum up the issue and your environment (basically your ubuntu version, customizations you made) again and see if you can get someone else to help with a fresh take
[17:47] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, Yes I have filed a bug report also.  thank you for all your help today
[17:47] <nacc> SSMAdmin: what specifically is  your network issue? (sorry if you said already) that required you to install desktop on server
[17:47] <SoniEx2> so "build it myself"?
[17:49] <SSMAdmin> nacc, no I have not installed desktop on server.  That was just a question I tossed out, as I wondered if the server trouble I have could be eliminated by installing desktop version instead.  To sum up the problem in question, now occuring in my server, see here: https://pastbin.smartskandalen.info/raw/hugadufuxo
[17:49] <JimBuntu> SoniEx2, that would be an option
[17:51] <SSMAdmin> nacc, maybe some confusion here.  I have server installed, and in it I installed ubuntu-desktop to let my family view video and tv and browse the internet from the same box, it is a HTPC
[17:52] <nacc> SSMAdmin: right, so you did install desktop on server :)
[17:54] <SSMAdmin> ahh, yes then, but I have not installed the Desktop version of Ubuntu 18.04, I have installed the server, and enchanged it with the desktop.  The other part of my questions earlier today was IF I reinstall the system, but now just using the desktop version instead of the server, i that could fix the network managin problems...but just forget about that, it only adds confusion to the discussion :-)
[17:56] <vinsent> helo
[17:56] <vinsent> hello
[17:56] <omarp> tomreyn: i got this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNCH5Jt2Jf/
[18:00] <rosco__> Hi, /usr/bin/python is missing from the default install of the latest 18.04, am I missing something? Why doesn't /usr/bin/python links to /usr/bin/python3?
[18:00] <Pici> rosco__: because python and python3 are different things. python is always python 2
[18:01] <blackflow> rosco__: PEP-394
[18:01] <rosco__> well then python2 and python are different things.
[18:01] <rosco__> this is ridiculous
[18:02] <rosco__> a lot of scripts are calling for python in general without mention of the version
[18:02] <ash_work> how do you uninstall something you installed from a deb package?
[18:03] <ash_work> nvm
[18:03] <blackflow> rosco__: then they're asking for python 2. PEP-394 defines what "default" python command should be.
[18:04] <ioria> rosco__, what you mean with '/usr/bin/python is missing from the default install of the latest 18.04' ?
[18:05] <JimBuntu> Canonical said they were removing python2 from default install... a few more years and I think no more apt for it either
[18:05] <Pici> rosco__: if the script's themselves specify /usr/bin/python in their shebang, then they want python2.  That is the standard.
[18:05] <ioria> rosco__, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/python-minimal/filelist
[18:05] <Guest49957> olá
[18:06] <Guest49957> hello
[18:06] <Pici> ioria: that is not installed by default.
[18:06] <JimBuntu> rosco__, https://linuxconfig.org/install-python-2-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[18:06] <ioria> Pici ho, didn't know that
[18:07] <rosco__> ioria: python2 has been removed from ubuntu 18.04, and /usr/bin/python is missing as well
[18:07] <JimBuntu> "Python 2 is no longer installed by default. Python 3 has been updated to 3.6. This is the last LTS release to include Python 2 in main." as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[18:07] <ioria> rosco__,   python-minimal  pkg, then
[18:08] <enissay> Hi, I have a list of words in a textfile, and I want to find which file they are located in another folder containing 1000+ text files x_x .... is it doable with find cli ?
[18:08] <rosco__> I'm ok with removing python2 from ubuntu 18, but at least make "$ python" point to python3 instead of returning a "command not found"
[18:08] <JimBuntu> rosco__, that would be a disaster. They aren't directly compatible
[18:08] <Guest49957> Has anyone heard of BothanSpy & Gyrfalcon?
[18:08] <ioria> rosco__,   idt it's a good idea
[18:09] <Guest49957> Has anyone heard of BothanSpy & Gyrfalcon?
[18:09] <JimBuntu> no
[18:09] <nacc> rosco__: ... python2 wasn't removed
[18:10] <blackbird1> Hi, I have a big problem, I use a kit (mic & headphones) to record a video. The microphone records a loud big static noise. How to fix that please ?
[18:10] <germs> @enissay grep seems like it would be a better choice... find you would need to use -exec grep
[18:10] <nacc> rosco__: and do *not* remove python2 from ubuntu; python pointing to python3 would be a violationof pep as well
[18:10] <omarp> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNCH5Jt2Jf/   , any advice ?
[18:10] <germs> to be clear, yes you could use find
[18:10] <nacc> rosco__: if you need python2, use it, otherwise don't.
[18:10] <enissay> germs: my bad, grep would be fine as well...
[18:11] <enissay> just found a lead on it and was reading the man
[18:11] <germs> grep -RiE "word1|word2|word3" <path>
[18:12] <enissay> germs: can I use a file as entry... it contains 50+ words, one per line... better read from the file than put them in one line :x
[18:13] <rosco__> nacc: install it if I need it otherwise don't install it? What kind of argument is this? python is the base of so many scripts that the standard install should at least return one valid interpreter for /usr/bin/python.
[18:13] <nacc> enissay: perhaps you want `man grep` ? :)
[18:13] <enissay> yes yes, on it :P
[18:13] <germs> sounds like some kind of while read line; do find something something -exec grep er something
[18:13] <nacc> rosco__: base ubuntu does not need it anymore (aiui) and if a package does, then it should express that dependency
[18:14] <nacc> rosco__: if you need it for some hand script, install python2.7?
[18:14] <nacc> rosco__: and there is *one* interpreter for /usr/bin/python, it's python2, if you need it.
[18:15] <ioria> my 18.04 has python-mininal  (but i upgraded from 17.10)
[18:15] <nacc> right, if you already had scripts taht used python2 in previous releases, you will still have python
[18:16] <nacc> if you fresh installed 18.04, you can't have scripts that need python2, until you put them on the system
[18:17] <ioria> right , right
[18:17] <nacc> at least, that's the logic afaict :)
[18:20] <David_Hedlund> What's the package responsible for Ubuntu Live USB creator?
[18:20] <nacc> rosco__: JimBuntu: also removing from main and/or not installed by default, does not mean removed from Ubuntu
[18:20] <xfcetheme> hey, guys! how would i go about installing manjaros xfce theme on my xubuntu?
[18:21] <nacc> David_Hedlund: source: usb-creator, binary: usb-creator-common/usb-creator-gtk
[18:22] <David_Hedlund> nacc: Thank you.
[18:23] <brainwash> xfcetheme: https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[18:26] <SSMAdmin> On ubuntu 18.04 server, using command 'nmcli d' show devices managed by Network Manager. For me this gave 2 ethernet cards and loopback device, all show UNMANAGED.  How can I set this to be MANAGED by Network Manager?
[18:27] <rosco__> nacc: just point /usr/bin/python to python3 instead of removing /usr/bin/python completey. Not doing it shows that ubuntu is miles away from unerstanding the enterpris needs. also, not installing by default a package called "python-minimal" is really telling a lot: no python by default on ubuntu 18. Enough for me tonight, see ya.
[18:27] <xfcetheme> brainwash: ive seen it and it doesnt help since i dont know the gui components by name, just saw it at uni
[18:28] <Guest84535> hello
[18:28] <brainwash> xfcetheme: gui components?
[18:29] <Guest84535> Has anyone heard of BothanSpy & Gyrfalcon?
[18:29] <ioria> SSMAdmin, you should have a file in /etc/netplan   ; check the renderer
[18:30] <xfcetheme> what the theme(und which sparte id search for it) is called, waht the cursor is called, how
[18:30] <omarp> brainwash: Hi, could you help me with an issue ?
[18:30] <xfcetheme> *how id install it
[18:31] <brainwash> xfcetheme: uhm.. shouldn't you ask that the manjaro people?
[18:31] <SSMAdmin> ioria, renderer says networkd
[18:31] <ioria> SSMAdmin, so it's not managed by NM
[18:31] <xfcetheme> true, off i go
[18:31] <xfcetheme> thanks
[18:32] <SSMAdmin> ioria, so that may be the reason I can not manage network connections in the desktop?  If so, how do I change this so these network connections can be managed by Network Manager instead?
[18:33] <SSMAdmin> ioria, here is the problem, if you care to read: https://pastbin.smartskandalen.info/raw/hugadufuxo
[18:33] <ioria> SSMAdmin, first make a backup of that file ..
[18:34] <SSMAdmin> ioria, done
[18:34] <ioria> SSMAdmin, ok, using static or manual ?
[18:34] <SSMAdmin> ?
[18:35] <ioria> SSMAdmin, sorry, dhcp or static ?
[18:35] <SSMAdmin> ioria, I get assigned an ip adress, but in the router it is set to static
[18:35] <SSMAdmin> so it is dhcp actually
[18:35] <omarp> brainwash: I'm trying to install docker on 18.04(Bionic), following:  https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/#set-up-the-repository , but get errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7yKzCWDY6K/
[18:36] <ioria> SSMAdmin, ok, replace that file with this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PSWHYgdQrZ/
[18:36] <SSMAdmin> ioria, router assing the ip, but router is configured to give it the same ip each time
[18:36] <userad> oi
[18:37] <userad> llll
[18:37] <SSMAdmin> ioria, ok..done, now reboot?
[18:37] <ioria> SSMAdmin, yes
[18:38] <userad> were are you from?
[18:38] <ioria> SSMAdmin, be sure network-manager is running
[18:39] <brainwash> omarp: but the file is there https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/bionic/stable/binary-amd64/
[18:40] <userad> angola
[18:41] <nacc> userad: stop. this the support channel. chitchat elsewhere
[18:42] <userad>  bb b b b
[18:42] <userad> sorry
[18:43] <SSMAdmin> ioria, thanks a lot, problem solved, its working.  At least I can now manage network connections in the desktop.  Now I will test Screen Sharing :-)
[18:43] <ioria> SSMAdmin, ok, what you mean with Screen Sharing ? vnc ?
[18:43] <Draconiator> Bleh I need more coffee...I'm already here.
[18:44]  * genii 's ears perk up for a moment, then he goes back to doing work
[18:44] <hume> hey guys, I'm trying to get cuda working on my fresh 18.04. It turned out I needed an older version of gcc (gcc 6), which installed using "apt-get install gcc-6"
[18:44] <SSMAdmin> ioria, yes, I was not able to active screen sharing (vnc) as I could not choose network connection in the Sharing - ScreenSharing dialog box (because Network Manager did not control the connections)
[18:44] <hume> hwoever I can't seem to start gcc because `gcc` tells me you need to 'apt-get install gcc' or whatever. Do I need to link gcc-6 to a new env or something?
[18:44] <userad> i have a problem my laptop shutdown allein. please help
[18:45] <SSMAdmin> tomreyn, problem solved by ioria
[18:45] <Miguel2013> I have a netgear wireless card wag511 I can't install on xubuntu any hand? https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/netgear-wag511-pcmcia-card-fails-to-load-on-linux.243733/
[18:45] <ioria> SSMAdmin, i don't remember if vino is installed by default in bionic:  dpkg -l | grep vino
[18:46] <omarp> brainwash: yes the file is in server, but i got :  Err:21 https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/bionic/stable bionic Release  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 443] , I don't know why ?
[18:47] <ioria> SSMAdmin, btw, is Desktop Sharing
[18:47] <SSMAdmin> ioria, that is correct, but it is called "Screen sharing" in the Ubuntu interface
[18:48] <ioria> SSMAdmin,   dpkg -l | grep vino
[18:49] <SSMAdmin> ioria, I just tell you what it says when you go to desktop tools/admin "Sharing" area
[18:49] <SSMAdmin> it say "Screen sharing"
[18:49] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  ok,    dpkg -l | grep vino     what's the output
[18:49] <brainwash> omarp: maybe this https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/290
[18:50] <nacc> omarp: ioria you are running the wrong command, afaict
[18:50] <ioria> nacc, meaning ?
[18:51] <nacc> ioria: i think it's wrong for it to say 'bionic stable'
[18:51] <nacc> ioria: in the sources.list addition
[18:51] <nacc> ioria: as bionic is in the path, no?
[18:51] <nacc> ioria: or if it is bionic stable, then the url is wrong
[18:51] <SSMAdmin> ioria, it says: ii  vino 3.22.0-3ubuntu1 amd64 VNC server for GNOME
[18:51] <nacc> yes the url is wrong
[18:52] <nacc> omarp: re-read the webpage and run the command *exactly* as shown
[18:52] <srukle> Where is the repository for the Ubuntu install program for mini.iso? Located: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A64-bit_PC_.28amd64.2C_x86_64.29_.28Recommended.29
[18:53] <nacc> srukle: what do you mean?
[18:53] <ioria> nacc, wrong nick ? :)
[18:53] <nacc> ioria: err, yes! brainwash --^ as to helping omarp
[18:53] <ioria> nacc, ok
[18:53] <srukle> nacc: I don't know the technical name. When mini.iso boots, it's an installation program. Do you know that name of that installation program? I understand it's different from Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server.
[18:53] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  ok,  ps -A | grep -i vino
[18:54] <nacc> srukle: i dont think it is
[18:54] <nacc> srukle: mini.iso just doesn't have packages on the iso
[18:54] <srukle> nacc: So it's the same project as Desktop and Server? I'm looking for the source.
[18:54] <nacc> srukle: i'm fairly sure it's still ubiquity
[18:54] <srukle> nacc: I'll look. Thank you!
[18:55] <nacc> srukle: yes, read the first few paragraphs
[18:56] <SSMAdmin> ioria,  3223 ?        00:00:03 vino-server
[18:56] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  so it's running ....
[18:56] <srukle> That's a lot of stuff to look at on the week before exams. I'll look at this again after classes. :)
[18:56] <SSMAdmin> yes, and I am connected using Remmina :-)
[18:57] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  ok then (but you don't need remmina)
[18:57] <SSMAdmin> ioria, thanks a lot for you help
[18:57] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  no problem you're welcm
[18:57] <SSMAdmin> ioria, what do I need then?
[18:58] <SSMAdmin> ioria, what do I need then, instead of Remmina? :-)
[18:58] <SSMAdmin> something better?
[18:58] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  vino is a server
[18:58] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  you connect to a server witha client
[18:59] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  e.g.  vinagre or another client
[18:59] <SSMAdmin> ioria, yes, and I am sitting on my personal computer, using Remmina to connect to my server we have just configured. This so I can control the living room server without disturbing the rest of the family watching tv :-)
[19:00] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  right :)
[19:00] <SSMAdmin> ioria, we may have just misunderstood each other. I thought you ment there was something better to use than Remmina
[19:01] <ioria> SSMAdmin,  i don't mean 'better' ; i eman there a lot of other clients available ... but if remmina is ok, problem solved !
[19:01] <SSMAdmin> Remmina has crap resolution, maybe I just have to tweak it
[19:03] <SSMAdmin> Resolution fixed, imagine what one can find if one just look around in config settings :-)
[19:04] <Miguel2013> SSMAdmin, hey I used to run ubuntu 7.10 on a pentium 3 and it gave me distorted resolution the laptop was even older but using ubuntu 10.10 just worked out of the box why
[19:05] <SSMAdmin> Miguel2013, now all is working perfectly :-)
[19:07] <xirg> hi I'm learning ubuntu and I can't seem to get my ssh keys to work
[19:08] <xirg> i'm running ubuntu 18.04 LTS and i'm trying to generate the keys on a windows 10 machine using putty's keygen
[19:11] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria: I follow  https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/290 , and I got some errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m234QYxq6n/  ,.. that are related that the repository does not have a Release file, I tried with test _edge) and get(release) installation , both fail with errors in repository and source.list
[19:15] <blackbird1> Hi, how to fex the static noise when recording ? (ubuntu: 16.04.4, kernel: 4.4.0-112-generic)
[19:20] <blackbird_> Hi, how to fex the static noise when recording ? (ubuntu: 16.04.4, kernel: 4.4.0-112-generic)
[19:21] <EriC^^> call ghostbusters ;)
[19:21] <EriC^^> blackbird_: do you have the mic set to 'boost' ?
[19:21] <nacc> omarp: you did something wrong when you added the repository before
[19:22] <nacc> omarp: and instead of reading the webpage and correcting it, you did somethign else
[19:22] <nacc> omarp: you need to start over and do the right thing the first time )
[19:22] <nacc> blackbird_: 16.04.4 should be on 4.4.0-121 or 4.4.0-122
[19:23] <RoadRunner|2> would really appreciate help with internet connection
[19:23] <swein> Does anyone know why installing 16.04 server on a NVME mdadm raid 1 won't boot? /boot is raid 1 md127 device, it's listed as a bootable partition. grub install says it installed, but no boot. BIOS options all look fine, in legacy mode.
[19:30] <blackbird_> nacc: with  4.4.0-121 or 4.4.0-122, I had retpoline problem.
[19:33] <Criminal[m]> Why does restarting systemd-logind seem to restart the display manager? (Ubuntu 17.10)
[19:34] <v0lksman> I just upgraded a system from 12 to 14 and now want to upgrage again from 14 - 16 but am getting an upgrade error.  It's likely due to a package I've installed, how would I figure out which one?
[19:34] <leftyfb> v0lksman: which 12, 14 and 16?
[19:34] <v0lksman> oh and just ran teh ubuntu-bug thing and this is a known problem but because I'm headless I can't see the bug number and no browser popped open
[19:35] <v0lksman> 04...lTS on all
[19:35] <leftyfb> that makes a huge difference since .10 isn't supported anymore on any of those
[19:35] <leftyfb> v0lksman: why do you have a desktop OS running headless?
[19:35] <leftyfb> or are you
[19:37] <rdias002> can somebody please help me with how do i get pinch to zoom and disable touchpad while typing. i have searched dozens of articles and none of them seem to work. i have even installed gnome tweaks but it doesn't seem to work . i have ubuntu 18.
[19:37] <v0lksman> no this is on a server
[19:37] <v0lksman> is there a sever specific channel
[19:37] <ioria> v0lksman, /var/log/dist-upgrade/    and what kind of error do you get ?
[19:38] <leftyfb> v0lksman: there is, but what errors are you getting?
[19:39] <ioria> v0lksman,  most of the problems from 14.04 to 16.04 are systemd related
[19:39] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria: I got same error even with sudo ap-get update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nTXjsN566W/
[19:40] <v0lksman> that's the one!  looks like one of my postgres packages is holding it up
[19:40] <debkad> rdias002: take a look at this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/111510/how-to-activate-pinch-to-zoom-twisting-with-synaptics-touchpad?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[19:40] <oerheks> omarp, what confuses me, is that docker uses https..
[19:41] <leftyfb> v0lksman: you need to post error messages
[19:41] <leftyfb> v0lksman: what about removing posgres, do the upgrade and reinstall?
[19:44] <v0lksman> can't remove the entire DB but it's complaining about postgis so I've removed it and trying again
[19:44] <v0lksman> x
[19:45] <leftyfb> v0lksman: I didn't say remove the db. Just the package. Also, you have yet to post an error message.
[19:45] <rdias002> debkad, thanks but i have already visited that page. didn't help much. pressing ctrl is only a shortcut and not a gesture. also i want to disable touchpad while typing because my cursor keeps jumping here and there
[19:46] <v0lksman> all good...seems that was it...now dealing with not enough disk space
[19:46] <leftyfb> v0lksman: NOW you gotta remove the db ;)
[19:47] <ioria> v0lksman,  df -h
[19:47] <RoadRunner|2> How to resolve an ip into a name?
[19:47] <v0lksman> hahaha...not out of tricks yet...I can resize my disk
[19:48] <v0lksman> viva la vps
[19:48] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: host, nslookup, dig, nmap
[19:48] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: why?
[19:48] <omarp> oerheks: I'm trying to install docker on ubuntu 18.04. yes Docker’s official GPG key is https ,...   :$ curl -fsSL https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/gpg | sudo apt-key add -
[19:48] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: having problems with dns
[19:48] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: those only work if your DNS has reverse DNS setup
[19:49] <de-facto> v0lksman, top 100 files "sudo du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 100"
[19:49] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: Does resolv.conf get overwritten after a kernel update?
[19:50] <v0lksman> all good...upgrade is now running...thanks guys!
[19:50] <v0lksman> (gals too!)
[19:50] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: depending on how you've got your networking setup, whatever network stack should override it
[19:50] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: a kernel change has nothing to do with resolv.conf
[19:50] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: what version of ubuntu?
[19:51] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: 16.04
[19:51] <oerheks> omarp, ahhh https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/290
[19:51] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: server or desktop?
[19:51] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: desktop
[19:52] <oerheks> omarp, " Expect the release of 18.05.0-ce within the coming weeks. Please note that the 18.05.0-ce release is for the edge channel only"
[19:52] <oerheks> so you found the edge version, that is all there is now
[19:52] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: then Network Manager (resolvconf) will override your /etc/resolv.conf each time you (re)connect to a network/VPN/etc
[19:53] <SSMAdmin> Is there a way to force 18.04 to accept user accounts without a password?  I want my family to be able to log in to the HTPC (ubuntu server) to watch netflix without typing a password, specially my kids should not need to do this
[19:53] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: perhaps you could help me with my problem then? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WrmPqZR5fP/
[19:54] <de-facto> SSMAdmin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin maybe?
[19:54] <rdias002_> what should i do?
[19:54] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: nmcli device show|grep DNS
[19:55] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria, oerheks:I did that and have just one error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2tWny8g8dx/ ,, I think is the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:56] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria, oerheks: something related to ppa
[19:56] <brainwash> omarp: disable that ppa then
[19:57] <oerheks> just told you, only edge is out
[19:57] <brainwash> oerheks: you didn't even check the pastebin
[19:57] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: nmcli device being the gateway/router?
[19:57] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria, oerheks: edge mean test ?
[19:58] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: type exactly what I posted into a terminal
[19:58] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: I did :) but can only do it on this comp; the one I am trying to fix is at  a diff address...
[19:58] <oerheks> brainwash, oh i see, ubuntu-make ppa..
[19:59] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: Whatever computer is failing to do lookups, run the command I posted above and post the ip's here
[20:00] <oerheks> omarp,  this ppa has no candidate, so it is safe to disable/remove https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-make
[20:00] <brainwash> omarp: I would switch to a different solution. ubuntu 18.04 has been released and those docker guys are unable to support it right away. unbelievable!
[20:00] <bodhilinuxaref2> hi
[20:01] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: my point is, I can't do that  now because I and the comp in question are at different locations; so the best I can do is try to understand the whole diag process using my current working computer as a prop
[20:01] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: you'll need access to the computer we're troubleshooting in order to troubleshoot it. Otherwise, you're not going to get much help here
[20:03] <omarp> brainwash: those docker guys are sh....! ...jajaja..
[20:03] <Pleasures> l
[20:03] <de-facto> RoadRunner|2, btw you always can ask a specific DNS server and see its answer with dig, eg. "dig @<IP_ADDRESS> freenode.net" to ask google dns <IP_ADDRESS>. so you can try to ask the configured ips of your problem box and see if they answer
[20:05] <rdias002_> here is a link for anybody who wants to disable touchpad while typing: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-disable-touchpad-while-writing-article-or-documentation-in-ubuntulinux-mint-or-derivatives-linux
[20:06] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: going back and forth btw locations for each indiv command is a nightmare so I am hoping someone could walk me through all  the steps in one go
[20:06] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: That's not how troubleshooting works. Steps can change depending on what we find
[20:07] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: check/change the public DNS your router uses ... .try that. Preferably, use <IP_ADDRESS> and no other DNS
[20:07] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: who's ip is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[20:08] <oerheks> rdias002_, it is an option now, in gnome-tweak-tool for 17.10/18.04
[20:08] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/a/GcWq6hP
[20:10] <de-facto> RoadRunner|2, "whois <IP_ADDRESS>" -> APNIC and Cloudflare DNS Resolver project
[20:10] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: Cloudflare/APNIC
[20:10] <leftyfb> too late :)
[20:10] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/what-is-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[20:10] <odroid> ]hi
[20:10] <odroid> hi
[20:11] <odroid> oracle or open java
[20:12] <oerheks> !java | odroid choose the one you like
[20:12] <oerheks> use open source, ofcourse
[20:12] <leftyfb> odroid: That's an opinion query. Not a support question. Use the one that works best for your purposes. If you don't have one, use open source.
[20:13] <oerheks> there is an advantage, yes, no need to add a funny ppa
[20:13] <Guest29711> hallo
[20:14] <SSMAdmin> de-facto, thank you
[20:17] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: regarding the DNS  for the router on the problem comp: IPv4 Primary DNS <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:17] <leftyfb> nope
[20:17] <leftyfb> that's not the public DNS server your router is using
[20:17] <leftyfb> if it is, then absolutely nothing is getting resolved anywhere on your network
[20:21] <atlas_0x01> Ay
[20:21] <Miguel2013> ayay
[20:21] <atlas_0x01> Wait...is that off topic??
[20:21] <atlas_0x01> *gasp*
[20:22] <Miguel2013> test what dns other computer using the same isp works
[20:23] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: and the nameserver ip from  resolv.conf doesn't help?
[20:23] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: no, that points to your localhost which points to the local ip of your router which is using a public DNS which you can only get by looking at the config of your router
[20:24] <Miguel2013> add dns-nameservers line to interfaces
[20:24] <Miguel2013> yea try the router ip too
[20:25] <SSMAdmin> Is there a way I can increase password strenght in Vino (remote desktop viewing)?  Currently I can only set, either so server has to accept a VNC connection, or using a password of maximum 8 characters.  8 is too weak in my opinion
[20:25] <Miguel2013> licor
[20:28] <omarp> brainwash, nacc, ioria, oerheks: Docker on ubuntu 18.04 working like a charm: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BYjJjrcCZ2/  , Thanks to all for your help and support ,, you are the great!!
[20:29] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: does this help? https://imgur.com/a/SNxuXuV
[20:29] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: is that the config of your router?
[20:30] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: that's the info from the comp that can't connect for its only wired connection
[20:30] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: the answer is no. That is not the config from your router. You need to check what DNS server your router is using for it's public DNS and what DNS servers it is handing out via DHCP
[20:34] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: the router belongs to my isp, when I try to dial into its gui from browser, I just get a 'welcome' screen without any real info or option to go deeper to look up anything
[20:35] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: would I then have to call them to get the info you are asking?
[20:36] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: then edit your network manager config the computer you are using and on the ipv4 tab, change Automatic(DHCP) to Automatic(DHCP) address only and in the addional DNS servers, put <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:36] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: then either reconnect to the wired connection or reboot
[20:38] <SSMAdmin> How do I configure ufw to allow incoming tcp connections only from computers on the local network?
[20:38] <SSMAdmin> example port 5900
[20:38] <Fjorgynn> :)
[20:39] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: if this works, would that be a permanent change or would it get overwriten by next reboot or something?
[20:40] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: it's perm, only on that 1 device and until you connect via some other network device (wireless, usb wireless/wired,etc). This is why I was trying to get you to make the change at your router where it belongs
[20:44] <ohallot> hi... is this the end-user support channel? suitable to ask end-user questions?
[20:45] <leftyfb> !ask | ohallot
[20:45] <phinxy> Is there a package for AlrGr-intl virtual console keymaps?
[20:46] <phinxy> dpk-reconfigure console-data did not have any AlrGr keymap at all.
[20:46] <phinxy> AltGr*
[20:46] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: there is another comp on that network, so it will reck the setup I take it...  So to do it right, I will have to call isp and get them to implement the change on their router.  Except that they know nothing about linux, so unless I tell them exactly what to do, they will not know what settings to use for me.
[20:47] <ohallot> I'm chasing a config bug in latest Kubuntu 18.04. My session opens at tty1.  Is that correct? Used to be tty7 with 17.10.
[20:47] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: they don't even have to know how to spell linux. They only need to set the public DNS of the router to <IP_ADDRESS> and make sure it's only giving out the ip of your router for DNS via DHCP or the same public DNS if they're not running local DNS on their router.
[20:48] <leftyfb> ohallot: probably not a bug. It's probably how they do things now. What does it matter to you though?
[20:50] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: and then any number of comps on that network will work fine?
[20:50] <debkad> phinxy: Test If it is working by `xev` command
[20:50] <dave09> Hey guys, does anyone have any idea why the login screen appear twice?
[20:50] <phinxy> debkad, Its all fine in X
[20:50] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: they'll either work better or not at all ;)   at which point your ISP has some splainin to do
[20:50] <debkad> so it is working then
[20:50] <ohallot> leftyfb: yes. may be it how it is now.  The second issue is: when I start a second session for a second user, it opens on tty1 and kills the current tty1 session instead of opening tty2.
[20:51] <leftyfb> gotta go now
[20:51] <phinxy> debkad, I'm trying to not use X as an experiment
[20:51] <Miguel2013> why is akamai so in bed with microsoft
[20:53] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: here's what I don't understand: the problem started after a bad kernel update; comp stopped booting and I had to remove old kernels to bring it to life.  Everything returned to normality, except the comp couldn't connect to the internet. So, if no changes where made to the router, why did it work before but not now?
[20:54] <leftyfb> RoadRunner|2: you said you only had problems resolving DNS and that ping worked
[20:55] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: after the kernel fix, correct
[20:59] <ohallot> Another issue I get since 17.10: Takes one minute between authetication and start of KDE desktop, in all my system end-users. PLain black screen, no disk acitivty. Seems the session is wating for a timeout, which I wasn't able so far to detect. Hits appreciated
[21:01] <FurretUber> Is there a way to remove the Dock in Ubuntu other than uninstalling? The Tweak tool didn't work
[21:02] <RoadRunner|2> leftyfb: ?
[21:03] <L00P3X> Hello and good evening, I got this mouse, is there any chance it could work? I do not know how to do so.. https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1057043/Tecknet-M001.html?page=2#manual
[21:06] <jpleau> I notice the gnome-3-26-1604 snap seems installed by default on 18.04, is there harm in removing it?
[21:14] <Miguel2013> SSMAdmin, hey I used to run ubuntu 7.10 on a pentium 3 and it gave me distorted resolution the laptop was even older but using ubuntu 10.10 just worked out of the box why
[21:15] <oerheks> jpleau, you might be able to, yes, not seen anyone tried before..
[21:15] <Miguel2013> I have a netgear wireless card wag511 I can't install on xubuntu any hand? https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/netgear-wag511-pcmcia-card-fails-to-load-on-linux.243733/
[21:17] <nacc> Miguel2013: ... why do you keep asking the previous question? neither 7.10 nor 10.10 are supported any longer
[21:17] <nacc> Miguel2013: and the question before that is trolling. So please stay ontopic.
[21:17] <L00P3X> i remebered the comand now.. on dmesg i got "[57519.611244] usb 4-2: Product: 2.4GHz 2way RF Mouse Receiver " recognised.. but i don't know how to get this mouse work
[21:21] <nacc> jpleau: i believe if you do that, some of the installed-by-default snaps will fail
[21:21] <nacc> jpleau: there are others for gnome
[21:22] <jpleau> nacc: I removed every other snap besides "core" and this one, was wondering if anything else was using it :)
[21:23] <nacc> jpleau: gnome-calculator, -characters, -logs, and -system-monitor are the ones that need it, i assume
[21:23] <nacc> jpleau: if you already removed those snaps, you no longer have the functionality (which is assumed to be core gnome functionality, as it's installed by default) nor those apps
[21:24] <jpleau> nacc: I was wondering why those snaps were installed, since they were available from the repos (with a newer version)
[21:24] <jpleau> Anyway, I understand that it's safe to remove now, thanks :)
[21:26] <L00P3X> would it be a try worth to chmod the port like "sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0" to get this mouse work? would ust knowif thers any chance.. I got it recognised whit dmesg
[21:27] <RoadRunner|2> whois <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:27] <RoadRunner|2> sorry, never mind :)
[21:34] <nicomachus> <IP_ADDRESS> is Cloudflare DNS
[21:34]  * nicomachus answered a support question. ticket closed.
[21:35] <Miguel2013> nacc, yes
[21:49] <Miguel2013> I have a netgear wireless card wag511 I can't install on xubuntu any hand? https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/netgear-wag511-pcmcia-card-fails-to-load-on-linux.243733/
[21:50] <adymitruk> any guidence on changing license from BSD to GPLv2?
[21:57] <SlidingHorn> adymitruk: what exactly do you mean?  Are you forking a project or something?
[21:58] <SlidingHorn> Miguel2013: which version and flavor OS?
[21:58] <pavlos> Miguel2013: is the card recognized?
[22:00] <SlidingHorn> Miguel2013: (correction - just need the version. I'd missed the "xubuntu" part)
[22:01] <RoadRunner|2> How to decrease the size of a LVM partition?
[22:03] <pavlos> Miguel2013: you may have to build a driver, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/331667/no-wireless-for-intel-corporation-7260-version-63 ... the answer voted 27
[22:06] <Miguel2013> pavlos, thanks
[22:08] <RoadRunner|2> Also, what's the easiest way to reformat a usb flash drive?
[22:08] <stevendale> RoadRunner|2 Gnome Disk Utility
[22:08] <emesix> Hello i have a question about the Realtek RTL8168 with Ubuntu 18.04. I cant get the network up even after installing r8168-dkms...
[22:10] <Miguel2013> pavlos, what do u mean by answner voted 27
[22:11] <pavlos> Miguel2013: there are 2 answers, the first has a 27 to the left (which is voted by other ppl)
[22:12] <pavlos> Miguel2013: also green circle with checkmark
[22:13] <pavlos> Miguel2013: SlidingHorn asked for xubuntu version ...
[22:15] <mattfly1> hi
[22:16] <mattfly1> can anyone give me an idea for a hack up or proper way to listen to mono youtube videos on both ears?
[22:16] <mattfly1> sometimes videos are only hearable on the left or right and this annoys me
[22:16] <mattfly1> i wanted to be able to convert the audio stream on the fly and make it more confortable, can anyone help me?
[22:21] <oerheks> mattfly1, mpv can do that, mpv --audio-channels=1  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<movie>
[22:21] <mattfly1> but that wont pause when i pause the video
[22:22] <mattfly1> oh wait will mpv play the video too?
[22:22] <oerheks> yes, space = pause
[22:22] <mattfly1> damn!
[22:22] <theseb> newb question... https://pastebin.com/G7Wuanx2 <--- Where is swap on that 18.04 fstab file?
[22:22] <oerheks> some speech recognition programs work better this way, though
[22:23] <oerheks> vlc should do this also, not sure what option
[22:23] <theseb> do new ubuntu vers call swap "tmpfs" ?
[22:23] <mattfly1> theres no swap there
[22:23] <mattfly1> im also having problems to hibernate on 18.04
[22:23] <oerheks> theseb, yes, fresh 7.10/18.04 uses swapfile
[22:23] <mattfly1> it has a swap file now
[22:23] <oerheks> or 17.10
[22:24] <theseb> mattfly1: oerheks : ok wait..so i shouldn't be alarmed 18.04 fstab does not show swap?
[22:24] <mattfly1> is it a fresh install?
[22:24] <Miguel2013> pavlos, I don't understand completely askubuntu but that could help me
[22:24] <theseb> mattfly1: yes..how check on the swapfile?
[22:25] <mattfly1> well thats weird, you can just manually create an swapfile and add it to the fstab
[22:25] <nacc> theseb: swapon should indicate if there is one
[22:25] <mattfly1> are you sure thats your whole fstab ??
[22:26] <nacc> that's not an fstab, that's /proc/mounts, fwiw
[22:26] <oerheks> fstab should have an entry for swapfile > /swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       0
[22:26] <mattfly1> on a fresh install i got /swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0   0"
[22:26] <oerheks> !fstab
[22:26] <pavlos> Miguel2013: d/ the tar.bz2, extract, compile, make install, then cp iwlwifi to the firmware area, attempt to insert the module
[22:26] <nacc> yes, i meant the pasted output above
[22:26] <nacc> snap mounts are not in fstab
[22:26] <pavlos> Miguel2013: d/ = download
[22:26] <theseb> mattfly1: yes..i'm using lvm...does that not use swap? i read somewhere only non-LVM has these swapfiles
[22:26] <mattfly1> use cat /etc/fstab insttead theseb
[22:26] <nacc> in particular, as the user said in the paste, the above is df output
[22:26] <mattfly1> or swapon -s
[22:27] <Miguel2013> pavlos, I have netgear with atheros chipset tho
[22:27] <theseb> mattfly1: ah..cat gives this line... /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[22:27] <theseb>
[22:27] <nacc> iirc, if you use LVM, no swapfile
[22:27] <nacc> (by default)
[22:27] <mattfly1> well thats your swap
[22:27] <pavlos> Miguel2013: I've read that it would work for wag511 ... I'll find the link
[22:28] <mattfly1> swapon -s will also show it
[22:28] <mattfly1> now can anyone tell me if you had success on hibernating ubuntu 18.04 ?
[22:28] <Miguel2013> pavlos, kidding?
[22:28] <theseb> mattfly1: swapon gives /dev/dm-1 partition 980M   0B   -2
[22:28] <theseb> mattfly1: i assume that's good?
[22:29] <mattfly1> I always get stuck on s2disk snapshooting system
[22:29] <theseb> mattfly1: thanks for the help..i think i confirmed i have swap ;)
[22:30] <mattfly1> theseb: yes you certainly have, looks weird that it is not the one on ur fstab and its a partiton. A personal tip is use htop to have a nice ncurses CLI view of your memory and running processes and swap usage
[22:31] <pavlos> Miguel2013: not sure I understand "kidding?" I'm trying to help ... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man4/ath_hal.4freebsd.html Atheros Hardware Access Layer (HAL) supports AR5212, see  Netgear WAG511       AR5212    CardBus    a/b/g
[22:32] <mattfly1> anyone knows why s2disk is getting frost? how to debug this? the only solution is alt+print REISUB or force turnoff on the power button when this happens
[22:32] <theseb> mattfly1: well there was an issue with a "Gave up waiting for suspend/resume" issue so i have to disable a line mentioning the swap in /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume
[22:32] <theseb> mattfly1: then i made a new initramfs
[22:32] <theseb> mattfly1: hence my concern...that i somehow removd the swap
[22:33] <mattfly1> well you have a small swap there, it seems 980M only
[22:33] <mattfly1> were you trying to hibernate?:
[22:33] <theseb> mattfly1: no
[22:33] <theseb> mattfly1: when i boot the Ubuntu VM it was giving warnings/errors
[22:33] <mattfly1> that happened while booting?
[22:33] <theseb> yes
[22:34] <theseb> mattfly1: it boots fine now and ubuntu 18.04 works...i just didn't know if i borked the swap with that hack
[22:34] <mattfly1> dont force turnoff a vm or the host machine without turning off the vm properly
[22:34] <theseb> right.....i rebooted properly
[22:35] <pavlos> Miguel2013: https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1307467.html
[22:35] <md_5> anyone else seen issues with hanging nvidia drivers on 18.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1767932
[22:36] <mattfly1> wow
[22:38] <mattfly1> md_5 im currently using nvidia-390 and i dont have something like that at all
[22:38] <md_5> :( yeah I can't see anything similar reported yet which is surprising
[22:38] <md_5> and unfortunately there is no downgrade path to nvidia-384
[22:39] <mattfly1> i have a gtx 1050 ti
[22:39] <mattfly1> what DE are you using? are you using wayland?
[22:40] <md_5> GTX770/X/Unity
[22:40] <mattfly1> when does that happen?
[22:40] <md_5> "randomly" - https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1033054/linux/kernel-task-hang-on-390-48-396-18-gtx770-/post/5256234/#5256234
[22:40] <md_5> its generally close to startup
[22:40] <md_5> like < 10 minutes
[22:41] <mattfly1> but if you dont login does it happen?
[22:41] <mattfly1> never made that test?
[22:41] <md_5> might've happened once on the gdm login screen, but havent specifically tested
[22:42] <mattfly1> well here i have ldm and kde plasma desktop
[22:42] <oerheks> md_5, lots of bugreports on launchpad about the 390 driver, this might be a solution, for now, 396 -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053/comments/116
[22:43] <md_5> oerheks I'm on 396 now
[22:43] <oerheks> oh oke
[22:43] <md_5> same hang, both the original 396 and the one released yesterday
[22:43] <md_5> left backtraces of both hangs in the ticket, but theyre identical
[22:43] <oerheks> did you purge  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau too?
[22:43] <md_5> nope, guess I can give it a shot
[22:44] <md_5> I don't have an Xorg.conf
[22:44] <zeffy> guys can you help me with virtualbox even if i use parrotsec ?
[22:44] <md_5> Worth noting when it works, it works fine. Currently chatting from the affected desktop
[22:44] <L00P3X> I don't know what else to try to get this mouse working... i made a pastebin from "tail dmesg" and "hwinfo --mouse". it is full recognised but i have no idea on what to do now.. if someone would please give it a look I would be very gratefull for any help.
[22:44] <oerheks> md_5, ubuntu generates one, and removes it during shutdown, AFAIK
[22:45] <oerheks> you might want to read the full post, what has been tried,, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1752053
[22:45] <md_5> ubuntu just uses /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d mostly
[22:45] <oerheks> jups, to populate xorg.conf
[22:45] <md_5> oerheks seem to be different issues, I boot fine, just get a deadlock "randomly"
[22:50] <ringzer0> I have nginx running; I can see the process.  and netstat -a | grep LISTEN - shows port 81 open.  I can connect to it via: curl loalhost:81 ... but I cannot do curl mytld.com:81 ... it just hangs.
[22:50] <ringzer0> I have turn ufw off via: ufw disable
[22:51] <md_5> Check its listening to <IP_ADDRESS> or a public ip
[22:54] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow 'Nginx HTTP' -- https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-ubuntu-16-04#step-2-adjust-the-firewall
[22:54] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow 'Nginx HTTP:81'
[22:55] <oerheks> ?
[23:00] <pavlos> ringzer0: https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/server_blocks/
[23:03] <riotz> wtf.. "df -h" "root on nautilus" and diskdrive manager all show different values
[23:03] <riotz> on df -h i have 95gb free.. nautilus says its 101gb disk manager shows 121,6gb
[23:04] <genii> 5% gets reserved for superuser
[23:06] <riotz> hmm that would give a answer to df -h and nautilus
[23:07] <riotz> any clue how disk manager gets such a huge value?
[23:08] <riotz> maybe it ignored tmpfs
[23:09] <riotz> whereas i have only 24 assigned to tmpfs
[23:10] <riotz> wick wack cadillac
[23:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> hey, i'm running 14.04 and apparently apache 2.4.7... 2.4.0 through 2.4.25 have broken directory indexes... i was considering moving to 16.04, but that's only apache2 2.4.18....
[23:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i don't think i'm going to be able to convince anyone to run 18.04 in prod just yet...
[23:15] <riotz> 16.04 is still supported?
[23:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> isn't it lts?
[23:16] <riotz> yeah but it shouldnt be supported for that much longer
[23:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> even 14.04 is supported, isn't it?
[23:16] <riotz> lts was like 4 years or what
[23:16] <riotz> that should be over soon
[23:16] <riotz> lets see
[23:16] <riotz> https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[23:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, so 16.04 will be supported for another 3 years still.
[23:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> but that's not really the issue.
[23:17] <oerheks> ondrej would give 2.4.33 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/apache2?field.series_filter=xenial
[23:18] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apache2
[23:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> nice, even for trusty.
[23:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> is that a trustworth ppa? :P
[23:18] <oerheks> or upgrade to 17.10/18.04
[23:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> lts is a requirement, and i don't think i could get any buy-in to move prod to 18.04 if they're still pushing back against 16.04
[23:19] <oerheks> it a commonly used one, yes, but a ppa is a ppa, use with care.
[23:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> "they" being management :P
[23:20] <riotz> NoImNotNineVolt, why dont you simply install the latest from the apache site?
[23:20] <riotz> the binaries there should be as good as the ppa
[23:20] <oerheks> .. would the apache site give security updates?
[23:21] <riotz> yeah well. no
[23:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> is ondrej fast with patches?
[23:23] <jpleau> NoImNotNineVolt: 2.4.7 doesn't mean vanilla 2.4.7, there are patches applied from latest upstream fixes
[23:23] <oerheks> last updates, 5 weeks ago
[23:23] <riotz> Apache HTTP Server 2.4.33 Released  March 23, 2018
[23:23] <riotz> took them a week
[23:23] <riotz> should be reasonable
[23:23] <STRENGTH> strength1900
[23:24] <riotz> stop posting your passwords in here
[23:26] <oerheks> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1522
[23:30] <jpleau> NoImNotNineVolt: what bug are you referring to exactly? You meant Directory Indexes being broken? Have an example?
[23:33] <riotz> the other question is why do prod servers run ubuntu at all.. why not simply debian?
[23:35] <xamithan> go to the offtopic channel if you just want to chatter riotz
[23:36] <riotz> xamithan, how come that this is a offtopic question?
[23:37] <xamithan> Well it has nothing to do with a support question
[23:37] <riotz> well i would say its reasonable question
[23:38] <xamithan> It is.   Debian doesn't have business support
[23:38] <xamithan> Ubuntu does
[23:38] <Skaface82> ok I have a very unsusual thing happening... I have my main display on a DVI port and a projector on a HDMI port... as soon as I turn my projector on, my LAN stops working. As soon as I turn my projector off my LAN works again
[23:38] <ntd> come on, canonical released an os unbootable on thinkpad t-series users
[23:38] <Skaface82> only since upgrading to 18 from 17.10
[23:38] <ntd> bionic: len ultra/pro dock=no
[23:38] <ntd> and i warned them
[23:39] <riotz> ntd, it works good on my t470p
[23:40] <ntd> docked?
[23:40] <ntd> with ultra/pro dock?
[23:40] <riotz> nope..
[23:41] <ntd> yeah, hence me clarifying
[23:41] <riotz> ok.. sorry overread that
[23:42] <ntd> nomodeset works, but multimon is then out of the question without major tinkering. warned them
[23:43] <zeffy> guys if im in /home/user/Picture , and i want to move a file, i use : mv file1 /Downloads
[23:43] <zeffy> what happend if i did that ?
[23:44] <jordino> hi... im looking for help about smb.conf i swear i already readed a lot but it seems that every tutorial or guide is from 3 years ago!!
[23:44] <ntd> it would move it to an assumed root dir named "Downloads"
[23:44] <ntd> so maybe look up the ~
[23:44] <ntd> or get a grip, generally
[23:45] <xamithan> The guide for smb.conf is ..  "man smb.conf"
[23:45] <zeffy> is empty /Downloads from root dir
[23:45] <xamithan> It should have everything you need,  a long with the example file
[23:47] <jordino> i already...
[23:47] <jordino> did
[23:47] <jordino> really
[23:47] <jordino> im looking for help
[23:47] <xamithan> Can't help until you ask a question
[23:47] <jordino> can anyone please help me?
[23:48] <jordino> im sure is a detail but i just cant find out
[23:48] <jordino> :(
[23:48] <riotz> jordino, read the syslog.. it will tell you whats going wrong
[23:48] <riotz> or was it smb.log?
[23:49] <oerheks> post it on paste.ubuntu.com ..
[23:50] <jordino> [2018/05/04 18:21:30.290276,  0] ../lib/param/loadparm.c:1750(lpcfg_do_service_parameter)   Ignoring unknown parameter "valid user"
[23:50] <jordino> why is ignoring?
[23:51] <jmgb4> Hey fellas. I am trying to remove the ubuntu version of Virtualbox. Yet again the fork is broken and doesnt pul whats needed. Suggestions on the best way to nuke it
[23:53] <xamithan> because "valid user" is not a parameter you can use
[23:53] <xamithan> I assume you meant to put "valid users = "
[23:53] <oerheks> use the -f option, sudo apt remove virtualbox -f
[23:54] <kevr> in 18.04 live server install
[23:54] <kevr> it says i can use a key from github, i selected github, entered my username
[23:54] <kevr> but nothing happened
[23:54] <jordino> xamithan: ok is fixed but it stills not letting me go into the share
[23:55] <oerheks> kevr, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server, live server is fresh  with 18.04 ..
[23:55] <xamithan> pastebin the config and the error message you get on smbclient.  Then we'll be able to see what is wrong
[23:55] <oerheks> not sure it is usable with github
[23:55] <riotz> jordino, wait dont touch your keyboard pls.. i'm trying to mindcontrol your syslog now
[23:56] <jordino> but the problem is not on this computer
[23:56] <kevr> oerheks: github is an option
[23:56] <kevr> so it must.
[23:56] <jordino> riotz!
[23:56] <jordino> xamithan:
[23:57] <jordino> samba$ testparm Load smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf rlimit_max: increasing rlimit_max (1024) to minimum Windows limit (16384) WARNING: The "syslog" option is deprecated Processing section "[homes]" Processing section "[printers]" Processing section "[print$]" Processing section "[publica]" Processing section "[privada]" Loaded services file OK. Server role: ROLE_STANDALONE
[23:58] <jordino> in the log:  INFO: Profiling support unavailable in this build.
[23:58] <flotwig> having a bit of a weird bug
[23:59] <jordino> i guess...
[23:59] <riotz> jordino, stop posting random lines of this syslog
[23:59] <flotwig> whenever i get a permissions prompt, like when installing something from the Software Center, it now asks me for an "Administrator" password
[23:59] <flotwig> not my account password
[23:59] <flotwig> I'm assuming it means the root pw
[23:59] <riotz> paste it to the link mentioned before
[23:59] <flotwig> It changed I guess when I upgraded to 18.04. Now I can't do anything via the GUI
[23:59] <jordino> riotz: im just trying to give some info in order to get help...
[23:59] <flotwig> anyone run into this?


[11:01] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: can i ask why?
[11:02] <thingy> Acc\Deny: At the end of the install it doesn't do anything other than launch the grub install util...and i don't know why it blanked on you.
[11:02] <thingy> intelikey: thats handy
[11:02] <intelikey> yep.....
[11:02] <Acc\Deny> thingy: hmm.... how ironic...
[11:02] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well more reasons - wanted to try something debian-like (used suse, mdk before)
[11:02] <thingy> Acc\Deny: any chance on getting the actual error message you see when you boot...i need the exact message to google around with
[11:03] <trappist> intelikey: journals are basically nice for when you lose power and want to have a non-screwed fs afterward
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and then the compiling ... i've only 2.4celeron
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: you start optimizing things by changing USE flags
[11:03] <trappist> my resierfs journal has saved my butt more than once
[11:03] <Acc\Deny> thingy: Help me.. I only know of dmesg...
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: then after 6 months you either buy some hw or want to try something which requires to change USE flags
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and you sit there waiting days to get your hw to work because you need to recompile whole bunch of stuff
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: how much time one needs to learn USE flags?
[11:04] <intelikey> trappist yeah i know the point of the journal  but  i have actually had more trubble with them than without...   some have other experances i know.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: ok ok got u now...
[11:04] <cgeo> guys
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well it's not a problem to know which flags you need, it's the recompile then
[11:04] <cgeo> my taskbar just disapeared!!
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: another prob
[11:05] <thingy> Acc\Deny: Is installing ubuntu again an option...if so then see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235188&highlight=intel+845
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: Anything more powerful than dmesg?
[11:05] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: you want say some prog you never had before, eg irc client, so you start trying .... till you'll able to run all of them, you lost 2-3 days
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: opening link now.
[11:05] <cgeo> how can i bring back the taskbar>??
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: I have never been able to understand the "(re)compile from scratch philosophy"
[11:05] <thingy> Acc\Deny: I assume you have an ATI rage pci card in the server?
[11:05] <zerak> |joe| not alone at least:     My system detects the TV card before the sound card as an alsa device. This makes the TV card the default sound card which results in no sound and causes many alsa utilites to fail.
[11:05] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and after you run them, you choose one and throw the rest away, how nice
[11:06] <thingy> cgeo: kicker
[11:06] <thingy> cgeo: oh wait you meant taskbar or the panel?
[11:06] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well in comparison to mdk/suse i had the feeling it was a bit faster
[11:07] <trappist> zerak: asoundconf list; asoundconf set-default-card [item from list]
[11:07] <cgeo> thingy:well not sure. when i type kicker it says kicker is already running
[11:07] <cgeo> probably its the panel
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I have an intel 845 board with the integrated AGP. this board is among the famous-few who give linux users a difficult time when it comes to Xorg...
[11:07] <intelikey> Acc\Deny iirc there is a dir /var/log/install/  that should have a log of the instalation which might be worth cat'ing    also /var/log/{system,dmesg,klog}
[11:08] <thingy> zerak: you can control which device is sound-device-0 and sound-device-1 via alias commands in the /etc/modutils/alsa file
[11:08] <zerak> trappist THANKS
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: thankx
[11:08] <thingy> zerak: example --> alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> |joe|:  I dunno me and my colleaugue keep fighting over gentoo :) he is a gentoo zealot.
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> thingy: let me read that link and get back...
[11:08] <zerak> there is no alsa file there, looked after it but i think trappist might resolved the problem
[11:08] <j-swim> hey folks, i installed kubuntu-desktop and all it's deps on ubuntu, and would like to now remove kubuntu-desktop and everything that came with it, is there a way I can select all of those deps at once?
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well i knew a few as well
[11:09] <zerak> thingy there is no alsa file there, looked after it but i think trappist might resolved the problem
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: he wanted to put that thing on a kinda critical server
[11:09] <Acc\Deny> back.
[11:09] <richee_> hi, trying to get knetwork manager to auto connect using wpa and kwallet,  anyone help please
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: i just couldn't understand the advantages it'd have e.g against debian
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> |joe|:  I wouldn't like to have such a guy on my team :)
[11:10] <zerak> trappist do i need to save it manually like they say in gentoo manual or will it save auto when issuing that command ?
[11:10] <zerak> trappist thank you again
[11:10] <cgeo> anybody has any idea how to bring back the panel???what's the relevant command??
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I m aware of the 915resolution package... for intel's integrated boards... for xorg...
[11:11] <intelikey> Acc\Deny not advising you to do so  but  if i installed and was getting block size error messages.  i think i would consider doing a "badblocks && mkfs" reinstalling there.....     i hate fs errors...   they don't seem to go away; they just move into areas that really give fits.
[11:11] <|joe|> cgeo: tried kicker ?
[11:11] <cgeo> yeah it says kicker already running
[11:11] <|joe|> i hate to say it but i lost one file today on xfs
[11:12] <|joe|> and xfs_check said everything ok
[11:12] <cgeo> thingy:cannot speak in private.it says i have to register r smth
[11:12] <thingy> cgeo: ah ok
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> thingy: intelikey: I guess i should 1. reintall 2. if 1 fails get rid of ubuntu ASAP before it damages something more... ?
[11:12] <thingy> cgeo: can you see the kde icon on the panel?
[11:12] <cgeo> thingy:nope nothing
[11:12] <richee_> anyone help me getting knetwork manager to auto connect.  trying with kwallet but network manager always asks for a password.  kwallet has no password
[11:13] <zerak> trappis will it save the info automatic?
[11:13] <thingy> cgeo: try "killall kicker;kicker"
[11:13] <intelikey> Acc\Deny if you reinstall (again i'm not telling you to, but if you do)  and it blanks on you.   try switching ttys   [alt] +[f3]    and back.   also an error log should be in either f3 or f4     errr tty3 or tty4 that is.
[11:13] <Acc\Deny> thingy: intelikey: does ubuntu have any cheat-codes like Knoppix so that i could force it to use a very generic display driver?
[11:14] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: hmmm ok!
[11:15] <trappist> Acc\Deny: you might also try vga=normal as a boot option (I think that's what knoppix calls a cheat code)
[11:15] <intelikey> Acc\Deny also in textmode install  you could boot with    vga=0x0f05    that's a very safe setting.  not frame buffered 80x30
[11:15] <Acc\Deny> trappist: yup cheat-codes = extra options at the boot: prompt...
[11:15] <intelikey> Acc\Deny yes hit f1 at the boot prompt
[11:16] <jhutchins_wk> They're more properly known as kernel options.
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: ok
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> jhutchins_wk: thats what i thought but in Knoppix terminology they become cheat-codes! :/
[11:16] <intelikey> lol
[11:17] <trappist> I do sorta like the cheat codes nomenclature :)
[11:17] <intelikey> as long as they are not automatic, i'm ok with'em
[11:17] <Acc\Deny> it was an amusing+distrubing term for me too in the start
[11:17] <trappist> oh yeah, 'single' :)
[11:18] <intelikey> nope   init=/bin/sh
[11:18] <intelikey> :)
[11:18] <trappist> intelikey: I think it does pretty much the same thing
[11:18] <intelikey> not really.
[11:18] <trappist> they should both drop you to a root prompt
[11:18] <intelikey> with single you are root.   with init= you are init.
[11:18] <trappist> ah.
[11:19] <trappist> <3 single
[11:19] <intelikey> init     litterally the system controler.
[11:19] <intelikey> :)
[11:19] <ubuntu_> n00b Test pls dnt rlpy
[11:19] <Acc\Deny> umm   single   is a cheat-code?
[11:20] <intelikey> it worked.  you're a n00b.
[11:20] <trappist> Acc\Deny: yes.  as in 'single user mode'.
[11:20] <ubuntu_> Thnx
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> i thought init 1 was for that?!
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> like linux 1
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> 1 would be the knoppix cheatcode for that
[11:20] <intelikey> just 1
[11:20] <morla> is there any need for lib64stdc++6 on a 32 bit athlon system? aptitude wants to install it, but i don't see why i would need it
[11:20] <trappist> morla: I can't imagine what good it would do.  what wants it?
[11:21] <intelikey> but if     1   == cheatcode    what is     init=/bin/sh  ?
[11:22] <morla> trappist: well aptitude has these packages with some other dependencies on it's to-be-installed list. I'd get rid of them, but I thought i'd ask first
[11:22] <trappist> morla: apt-cache rdepends lib64stdc++6
[11:22] <zerak> thingy just wondering about Quote "/etc/modutils/alsa file" i dont got any alsa files there
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> thank you guyz... i gtg and do a reinstall soon based on your help...
[11:22] <trappist> morla: I'd try it here, but all I have are amd64 boxen :)
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: standard thing to do is init=/bin/sh
[11:23] <intelikey> which leads me to another Q;   in edgy is it    init=/bin/sh    or  upstart=/bin/sh      ?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> I would expect the first but haven't tried it
[11:24] <morla> trappist: so far it works without, I just don't want to run into obscure compiliong issues someday.. would it hurt if I just installed them?
[11:24] <trappist> morla: nope
[11:24] <intelikey> h3sp4wn you do know that edgy isn't using init ?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Yeah but due to my experiences with it - I doubt they went to that length
[11:25] <morla> trappist: ok then, it's just a few kilobytes.. thanks
[11:25] <intelikey> sed 's/init/upstart/g' edgy
[11:25] <intelikey> prolly right.
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> I am using file-rc at the moment (nice and clean)
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> or is it rc-file
[11:26] <thingy> zerak: do you want me to priv msg the one i have...its small
[11:27] <intelikey> i had to look   file-rc - Alternative boot mechanism using a single configuration file   i have used it before  but forgot
[11:27] <|joe|> thingy: say you can control the order of the sc?
[11:27] <|joe|> thingy: ie which card is hw:0, hw:1 and so on?
[11:27] <zerak> thingy but if it isnt any there then should i really add one? Seems to work the think trappist said in all app but Quake4
[11:28] <thingy> |joe|: you can control the order via dictating what order the modules are loaded and you can tell alsa which card should be sound card 0 with the modulutils directory
[11:28] <intelikey> h3sp4wn and i've writen my own init.... basicly it's anything to start and stop processes.   beginning at inittab  for the sysvinit system
[11:29] <|joe|> thingy: but with the modutils do you change actually what? the order of the modules get loaded in or only defines the sc numbers?
[11:29] <thingy> |joe|: priv msg ok? need to paste the output of the file to explaimn
[11:29] <|joe|> thingy: ok but only one-way :)
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I just like it to be simple - written your own init as a replacement for /sbin/init ?
[11:30] <Hawkwind> Paste it to http://pastebin.ulteo.us instead of flooding someone in pm even
[11:30] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah.
[11:30] <|joe|> zerak: is dmix working with the asoundconf ?
[11:30] <superkirbyartist> Tell the Ubuntu ppl to unban me.
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: How do you deal with the part of init which inherits zombie processes ?
[11:31] <zerak> |joe| most things work except Quake4 (tried vlc, kde, flash)
[11:31] <intelikey> heh i didn't.    i never said it was production quality.
[11:32] <thingy> |joe|: in the  priv msg...you can see that my snd-card-0 is a ca106 device and I add mode aliases like that telling it what the other sound cards are
[11:32] <superkirbyartist> Can you tell #ubuntu to unban me please?
[11:33] <|joe|> thingy: hmmmm kind of dejavu, was it always in /etc/modutils?
[11:33] <zerak> thingy do we need that config file, will dmix work with it
[11:33] <thingy> |joe|: yes...it was commentd out however...i had to add my sound card in it and uncomment the lines
[11:34] <thingy> zerak: I havent gotten around to setting up dmix...but i only mentioned the file to answer your question about how to tell alsa which card = 0 and which = 1 etc
[11:34] <|joe|> i'm happy persion not having to take care of stuff like that :)
[11:34] <zerak> think it worked out with asoundconf most apps seems to work but not Quake4
[11:34] <tobre> Hello!
[11:35] <drakan2> Hi
[11:35] <drakan2> O_o
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: when talking about order, something off-alsa-topic - any idea what defines the order of /dev/input devices?
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: i have keyb, mouse, ir and joystick
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: and sometimes the joy and ir get exchanged and my lircd goes crazy
[11:35] <tobre> Ok, I have a very strange problem.
[11:35] <thingy> |joe|: ooh good question...i only ever had 1 input device so never encountered the issue
[11:36] <thingy> |joe|: holy cow! :-)
[11:36] <|joe|> thingy: it never happened in dapper
[11:36] <intelikey> so what has "superkirbyartist"  done to warent that ?
[11:36] <tobre> Wav files doesn't work, all sound is working normally.:S
[11:37] <|joe|> thingy: the best thing is i have klirc autostart at startup; if occasionaly mouse becomes the "lircd" device, i get 100% cpu and cannot move the mouse, cause lircd eats the events :)
[11:37] <intelikey> tobre you can't play  .wav ???
[11:37] <tobre> Yes.
[11:37] <intelikey> yes can or can't ?
[11:38] <tobre> Yes can't.
[11:38] <|joe|> lol
[11:38] <tobre> Ogg files and CD-s and so one. Works just fine.
[11:38] <intelikey> install sox  ?
[11:38] <tobre> I'm running Kubuntu.
[11:39] <markelhas0> hey everyone, what should i do to get normal ddl speed with ktorrent!?
[11:39] <intelikey> type in a konsole;  play /path/to/file.wav
[11:39] <|joe|> markelhas: i didn't do anything and i get normal dl speeds :)
[11:39] <zerak> share? =P
[11:39] <tobre> play: command not found
[11:40] <tobre> I have missing something?
 install sox
 type in a konsole;  play /path/to/file.wav
[11:40] <thingy> |joe|: regarding your input devices question...it seems that the order is determined by udev...see http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug/2005-October/047932.html
[11:40] <markelhas0> |joe|: i've installed kubuntu on my desktop but speed on torrent is very slow
[11:40] <tobre> OK, I'll try
[11:41] <thingy> |joe|: guess you will need figure out how to refer to the device specificaly and write a udev rule for it...i think
[11:41] <intelikey> .wav format is not restricted.  so i'm thinking it's the file  not the player  but the cli play (sox) will prove/disprove that.
[11:41] <tobre> Sox is not in my apt-get list.
[11:41] <|joe|> markelhas0: only on torrent?
[11:41] <markelhas0> |joe|: ypas
[11:42] <intelikey> !sox
[11:42] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[11:42] <intelikey>  In component universe,
[11:42] <intelikey> !sound
[11:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:42] <intelikey> maybe you should see that  ^
[11:42] <markelhas0> |joe|: 0.1 0.5 ddl speed
[11:42] <tobre> Ok, thanks...
[11:42] <|joe|> markelhas0: have you tried another client eg azureus?
[11:43] <intelikey> tobre  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  in particular.
[11:43] <|joe|> thingy: thnx, i'll see .... my devices are btw always plugged
[11:43] <markelhas0> |joe|: nop
[11:43] <intelikey> i have to go for a bit.  maybe back in an hour or so.  maybe not till monday.....
[11:44] <|joe|> markelhas0: i'd try it out, maybe it's just the torrent that is slow
[11:44] <intelikey> !vlc | tobre
[11:44] <ubotu> tobre: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:44] <markelhas0> |joe|: humm with windows i had normal ddl speed, i don't know  what's the problem
[11:44] <intelikey> !codecs | tobre
[11:44] <|joe|> markelhas0: with the same torrent?
[11:44] <ubotu> tobre: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <markelhas0> |joe|: i don't think the problem is on the client
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: the same one
[11:45] <intelikey> tobre that's enough to get ya going... :)
[11:45] <|joe|> markelhas0: well i cannot complain i get up to 200kb/s on adsl2000
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: i've peer's but all of them 0.0 kb/s
[11:45] <|joe|> markelhas0: do you use edgy/dapper?
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: can u help me out?
[11:46] <markelhas0> kubuntu 6,10
[11:46] <|joe|> markelhas0: well i'm not sure i can help here
[11:46] <markelhas0> ktorrent
[11:46] <|joe|> markelhas0: few months ago i heard ktorrent was generally bit slower because of smth (internal algos, whatever)
[11:47] <|joe|> markelhas0: but now with the 2.0.x i don't have any probs
[11:47] <|joe|> markelhas0: but you can try azureus, it should be in the repos (use sun java for this), maybe it works better for you
[11:48] <nagyv_> hello! I would like to use my wifi with a hidden access point (of course it is my access point :)), but I can not connect to it only if it is not hidden. I use the Wireless Manager, should I use some more basic program? Something to set up at command line?
[11:49] <malix0> nagyv_: yiu can use iwconfig from command line
[11:50] <yalu> what is the "right" way to configure a printer in kubuntu? I recently bought a Brother laserprinter (usb) but am wondering is there is some whizbang hardware detection built in the distro for printers
[11:51] <malix0> nagyv_: you can also put your wirless connection parameters into /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <nagyv_> malix0: this means that theoretically Linux should be able to handle the hidden access point. Cool! :)
[11:51] <steven__> can someone please help me before i kill the pc
[11:51] <steven__> i'm at my wits end
[11:51] <malix0> nagyv_: I don't know but you can try
[11:51] <nagyv_> steven__: yes, lean back in your seat,  take some deep breaths, and ask your question
[11:52] <steven__> how the hell do i install icon themes in kde 3.5
[11:52] <markelhas> anyone help me out with ktorrent config!?!?!
[11:52] <malix0> try from command line iwconfig your_nic essid your_ssid
[11:52] <steven__> been trying for 2 days
[11:52] <|joe|> yalu: what type?
[11:53] <|joe|> yalu: if it's supported you can configure it via kde's system settings -> printers
[11:53] <malix0> nagyv_: and iwconfig interface key s:your_password if you have one
[11:53] <rabello> oi
[11:53] <yalu> |joe|: brother hl-2030, most sold inexpensive model at the moment I think (at least where I live)
[11:53] <rabello> algum sabe como instalar MSN no ubuntu?
[11:54] <steven__> hello?
[11:54] <nejode> rabello: sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:54] <nagyv_> steven__: follow these instructions: http://www.kde-artists.org/node/112
[11:55] <|joe|> yalu: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-2030
[11:55] <rabello> hi
[11:55] <rabello> someone knows how to install msn for ubuntu?
[11:56] <rengolin> use gaim
[11:56] <rengolin> sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:56] <nagyv_> rabello: or kopete
[11:56] <rengolin> yup, or kopete
[11:56] <nejode> rabello: sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:56] <rabello> yes
[11:56] <rabello> thanks
[11:56] <markelhas0> rabello: usa o gaim mt melhor
[11:56] <yalu> |joe|: thanks, it's hard to spot hyperlinks on linuxprinting.org though
[11:56] <steven__> Thankyou SOO much
[11:56] <|joe|> yalu: mmnt
[11:57] <steven__> will let you know if i manage it!
[11:57] <|joe|> yalu: i'm looking into the wizard
[11:57] <markelhas0> ppl need help to config ktorrent plz help me aout
[11:57] <jorge_> canal espaol?
[11:57] <nagyv_> steven__: you are welcome
[11:57] <nagyv_> jorge_: !es
[11:57] <jorge_> ok
[11:58] <|joe|> yalu: can try it with the hl2060, it's in the wizard
[11:58] <jager|work> is there a way to wget like every file on a webserver?
[11:58] <jager|work> totally mirror everything?
[11:58] <|joe|> yalu: or try the brother's drivers, but then you have to follow brother's instructions
[11:58] <enotee> how do i add plugins in K3b 0.12.17(Using KDE 3.5.5)
[11:58] <tobre> OK, sox is installed and now when I run play file.wav I get error: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
[11:59] <yalu> |joe|: brother drivers... I guess those won't be open source? or are they just ghostscript filters or something
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: well i did find this for dapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123539
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: this might be exactly what you need :)
[11:59] <yalu> thanksalot
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: i think they're not os
[12:01] <tobre> What is wrong when that error appears?
[12:02] <|joe|> ... and started transcode that should take 8hrs :-E
[12:02] <zerak> thingy one more thing, looking a bit at alsa, there they tell one to create such a file, did you follow that guide when u did yours or should one rely on ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:03] <thingy> zerak: I think I did look at the alsa website for instructions
[12:03] <enotee> Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: Error when i try to burn a Mp3 cd
[12:03] <thingy> zerak: so I might have created the file from there
[12:03] <tobre> Ok, I look again.
[12:03] <zerak> Goodnight everyone and thanks for the help
[12:03] <enotee> ...using K3b
[12:04] <thingy> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <luciano_> hello everyone
[12:04] <luciano_> can anyone tell me how can I test my opengl performance ?
[12:04] <dergringo|afk> can anyone tell me why I get this error on starting kismet? (Kubuntu 6.10 / DLINK DWL-G650): http://pastebin.com/821487
[12:05] <steven__> nagyv_ trying that now, however do you know how tho shange the kubuntu menu button icon only
[12:05] <luciano_> i've installed neverball, but it's very, very slow, and i have a good card
[12:06] <malix0> luciano_: try glxgears
[12:06] <thingy> luciano_: ati or nvidia graphics card?
[12:06] <nagyv_> steven__: no, but try google, it is a very clever program, I have found the link with to you before :)
[12:06] <luciano_> nvidia
[12:06] <thingy> !nvidia
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <steven__> tried already but no luck
[12:06] <steven__> will keep going
[12:06] <steven__> thanks again
[12:06] <luciano_> i couldn't find glxgears on adept
[12:07] <thingy> luciano_: see what ubotu said...and just type in glxgears at the console it should already be there
[12:08] <luciano_> yeap, it is, and the gears are spinning S_L_O_W_L_Y
[12:08] <luciano_> hehe
[12:08] <thingy> luciano_: you need to install the nvidia binary drivers so that it uses hardware accleration for opengl/3d
[12:08] <luciano_> ok, i'll follow the help link
[12:08] <luciano_> thanks a lot !
[12:09] <|joe|> nvidia-glx
[12:09] <|joe|> use it myself :)
[12:09] <tobre> Thanks for helping me, guys. I got my .wav's work. ;)
[12:10] <tobre> But I'm not running out of questions, teherefore I'll come back soon. :) But not today. Thanks again. :)


[03:46] <mr_gees100_peas> When I restart ubuntu I loose internet connection. I can restart it by going to system setting/networking and turning it off and back on again but that is a hassle.
[03:47] <mr_gees100_peas> it started doing this after an upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04
[03:47] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: you can always go back to 11.10
[03:47] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: i would wire it up to internet, check for, and apply any upgrades
[03:48] <holstein> hopefully there will be a kernel update, or something that sorts you out
[03:48] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: isn't there some setup somewhere where it will connect automatically?
[03:49] <mr_gees100_peas> going back to 11.10 seems kind of drastic.
[03:49] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: maybe i missunderstand you
[03:49] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: it will connect to the wifi, just not automatically?
[03:49] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: thats usually related to the login
[03:49] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: No not wifi. Its a wired connection through the ethernet port.
[03:51] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: I can immediately regain connection by going to system settings/network and clicking the on/off button.
[03:51] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: i would check for and apply any updates
[03:51] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: Its like it is forgetting to restart itself.
[03:54] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: well, its a machine.. just remember that it doesnt remember or forget
[03:54] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: doing some updates now using the sudo apt-get update command.
[03:54] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: is there a graphical way of doing this?
[03:54] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: sure
[03:55] <holstein> you can use the package manager or your choice, or the upgrade manager
[03:55] <holstein> you'll need to run...
[03:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <holstein> then
[03:55] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:55] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: what will it upgrade to?
[03:56] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: ?
[03:56] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: well it updated something.
[03:56] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: sure, "it" updated the list of available pacakges from the repositories
[03:56] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: nothing was upgraded yet though
[03:57] <mr_gees100_peas>  holstein: oh ok. I'm upgrading now
[03:59] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: dont expect this to "fix" anything
[03:59] <holstein> mr_gees100_peas: you can also try loggin in as another user
[03:59] <holstein> logging*
[07:12] <Fred219> Hi, I was wondering whether someone could help me with a problem I have.  New install of 12.04, but when I try to start the system unity fails to start. If I try and perform unity --restart the system locks up.
[07:57] <s-fox> Hello :)
[12:40] <raubvogel> geirha: update:
[12:41] <raubvogel> mysqladmin flush-privileges did the trick
[15:59] <seanlew> Hi
[16:00] <seanlew> I have version 12.04
[16:00] <seanlew> Need to disable ipv6
[16:00] <seanlew> I get IP DHCP address but I cant get out onto network
[16:02] <s-fox> see you all
[16:03] <seanlew> ?
[16:05] <seanlew> Is there any help hee?
[16:05] <seanlew> here
[16:06] <Yos> sorry I can't help with that, but sometimes need patience on help channels
[16:06] <Yos> can be quicker to search ubuntuforums
[16:07] <seanlew> Ive done searches.. more for older versiona
[16:07] <seanlew> versions
[16:10] <seanlew> IS this a help area.. or a place to jsut hang out in?
[16:11] <Yos> this is a help area but most are not around atm
[18:07] <geirha> raubvogel: Ah, that makes sense. :)
[18:12] <raubvogel> geirha: another mystery solved!
[18:12] <raubvogel> And, replication will update the pw
[23:14] <RichMobile> 12.04 server 64 | Highpoint Rocket Raid 622, 4-bat esata. Got the drivers installed, Web interface is working. Disk/by-label shows up RightTower -> ../../sdb2 --------- I can not for the life of me get this to mount