[01:46] <ShadowWRK> oh nah
[01:46] <johnnybezak> raphink: yeah
[01:46] <johnnybezak> maskd: good for noobs though
[01:46] <jazwec> brenner yeah..btw i dont know why..but i have now problems with starting applications..icon is jumping near my cursor for a while..and then it just do nothing
[01:46] <raphink> johnnybezak: now I develop for ubuntu, so you guess I don't think so anymore ;)
[01:46] <QQ_ghost> he just said linspire. hahahahaha
[01:46] <johnnybezak> raphink: haha obviously not
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> linspire = lindows?
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> lol
[01:46] <Jaymac> yes
[01:46] <raphink> ShadowWRK: yes
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> hehehe
[01:46] <johnnybezak> ShadowWRK: yep
[01:46] <ShadowWRK> what a joke ;)
[01:47] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: a lot of us come from debian backgrounds and all of us have tremendous respect for debian
[01:47] <raphink> ShadowWRK: they had to change their names, after being sued by MS
[01:47] <brenner> jazwec: not sure of that either.  but is it happening with all apps?
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> raphink - i know, i remember when they changed their name
[01:47] <funkyHat> I use both debian and ubuntu. IMO they are better at different things
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> thoreauputic;  i have a lot of respect for debian, just happen to really like ubuntu :)
[01:47] <raphink> ShadowWRK: a big part of our work in universe is to merge Debian packages in Ubuntu and help merge Ubuntu packages in Debian.
[01:47] <thoreauputic> ShadowWRK: right, like all of us here :)
[01:47] <ShadowWRK> cool
[01:47] <Jaymac> anyone tried suns looking glass 3d?
[01:47] <Jaymac> it's interesting
[01:47] <maskd> I used debian as my first linux os, i liked it and got it to work, but couldnt figure out how to get mp3's to work, so i went back to windows
[01:48] <raphink> ShadowWRK: we want to improve the whole thing, while keeping as cloes to Debian as possible.
[01:48] <ShadowWRK> nice
[01:48] <funkyHat> And I like ubuntu's sudo/root password setup so I make my debian systems use it too ;)
[01:48] <raphink> Jaymac: looking glass sux
[01:48] <ShadowWRK> my first *nix was slackware on a 486
[01:48] <Jaymac> i didn't say it was good.. i said it was interesting
[01:48] <jazwec> brenner no with all..k3b is working..but for example bittornado, vlc, audacity
[01:48] <Jaymac> perhaps we'll see a few ideas incorporated into either KDE or Gnome sometime
[01:48] <Jaymac> although KDE would be more likely
[01:48] <Seveas> Can we please stop the offtopic talk and go back to UBuntu support, kthxbye
[01:48] <raphink> Jaymac: sure, and there are other 3D desktops projects that are interesting.
[01:48] <funkyHat> raphink, Jaymac, It's a very very good idea, and looks nice, it's just a shame about the language it's written in
[01:49] <brenner> jazwec: hmm, try running them in a terminal.  you might get some errors
[01:49] <olicat> whats the quickest way of copying files over a local wireless network?
[01:49] <maskd> Anybody used SphereXP, lol.
[01:49] <Seveas> olicat, scp
[01:49] <raphink> olicat: scp
[01:49] <olicat> cheers
[01:49] <raphink> using ssh
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> which is the default windowing environment that ubuntu uses? kde or gnome?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> olicat: scp probably
[01:49] <maskd> gnome
[01:49] <Seveas> ShadowWRK, gnome
[01:49] <Morrowyn> how do i turn off the pulsating thing in my application bar in gnome, xmms keep pulsating , which is annoying
[01:49] <Jaymac> gnome
[01:49] <maskd> kubuntu is kde
[01:49] <Jaymac> kubuntu is kde
[01:49] <raphink> ShadowWRK: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu
[01:49] <Jaymac> bah  beaten to it twice :)
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> ahhh
[01:49] <Seveas> Kubuntu is the KDE based deivative, Xubuntu XFCE
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> i prefer gnome
[01:49] <maskd> Jaymac: :)
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> gotcha
[01:49] <ordicasse> hi
[01:49] <ShadowWRK> i was wondering what kubuntu was
[01:50] <Seveas> hi ordicasse
[01:50] <raphink> hi ordicasse
[01:50] <Jaymac> didnt the K give it away? ;)
[01:50] <Morrowyn> :)
[01:50] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: hmm, one sec.
[01:50] <ShadowWRK> heh, i guess it went over my head
[01:50] <ShadowWRK> <= has a fever
[01:50] <maskd> Seriously, i don't know how I lived without workspaces
[01:50] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[01:50] <ROBOd> gotta go
[01:50] <raphink> ShadowWRK: anyway, ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu are not different system, they only diff by a few packages and can be turned to one another.
[01:50] <ROBOd> bye
[01:51] <maskd> cya ROBOd
[01:51] <ShadowSick> i understand
[01:51] <thoreauputic> ShadowSick: some wit suggested we should have a fluxbox ubuntu called "flubuntu" ;-)
[01:51] <ShadowSick> hehehehe
[01:51] <Morrowyn> robotgeek ok :)
[01:51] <raphink> thoreauputic: we'd need an enlightenment one, too :)
[01:51] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: i know how to do this, it's just been a long while :)
[01:51] <Seveas> raphink, Ebuntu
[01:51] <raphink> Seveas: :)
[01:51] <maskd> I don't like the look of enlightenment
[01:51] <ordicasse> my ubuntu is broken and I don't understand why... When I boot with the LiveCD to open Gparted, it says that my /dev/hda3 (the main linux partition) has an unknown filesystem, what can I do to repair it ?
[01:51] <thoreauputic> rapha: Ebuntu ?
[01:51] <brenner> maskd: one of my favourite irks as well!
[01:51] <maskd> it's just too pretty
[01:51] <raphink> there's Gnubuntu going on, too
[01:52] <mendy> I need some help with install.
[01:52] <Morrowyn> ok, take your time, at least i know i can remove it :)
[01:52] <Seveas> ordicasse, sudo fdisk -l
[01:52] <Seveas> ordicasse, output on the pastebin
[01:52] <redguy|work> gnubuntu? with gnustep?
[01:52] <aLeSD> I  hate you
[01:52] <thoreauputic> redguy|work: no it's the pure RMS version :)
[01:52] <raphink> redguy|work: gnubuntu is a project with the fsf
[01:52] <maskd> i wonder who he was hating there
[01:52] <mcscruff> i have a folder thats set to root privilidges, how can i make it so it isnt.. and also all subfolders and files
[01:52] <raphink> thoreauputic: ;)
[01:52] <munzir> HI sirs, glxgears in ubuntu doesn't print the fps, what's the problem please?
[01:52] <Seveas> mcscruff, sudo chown -R
[01:53] <raphink> thoreauputic: pure RMS version means Ubuntu GNU/Hurd of course ;)
[01:53] <Morrowyn> how come firefox 1.5 isnt in the package db ?
[01:53] <Seveas> mcscruff, man chown
[01:53] <redguy|work> ah!
[01:53] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: it's in dapper
[01:53] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, with herd? ;)
[01:53] <mendy> I'm trying to install ubuntu and it's getting stuck
[01:53] <brenner> munzir: you have to use the option: man glxgears
[01:53] <Seveas> Morrowyn, because it breaks too much
[01:53] <Morrowyn> munzir, run it from a terminal
[01:53] <funkyHat> *hurd haha
[01:53] <squid0> mendy, what's up?
[01:53] <mendy> It's getting stuck by AGP
[01:53] <munzir> Brendon, there is no man glxgears here
[01:53] <thoreauputic> rapha: heheh - right - we might be waiting a while for taht one ;)
[01:53] <Morrowyn> ok, so when thats fixed, ill see it appearing in ubuntu right?
[01:53] <mendy> I can't get passed it
[01:53] <munzir> Morrowyn, this is what I am doing but still nothing
[01:53] <Morrowyn> hmmm
[01:53] <raphink> thoreauputic: heh, I had the Hurd/Mach work on Debian GNU/Hurd last year
[01:53] <brenner> yeah, just noticed sorry
[01:54] <munzir> Morrowyn, do it work for you?
[01:54] <thoreauputic> raphink: cool - was it stable and good?
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: I'd even say it was easier for me to install Debian GNU/Hurd than Gentoo :p
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: it was unusable, but it worked :p
[01:54] <Seveas> raphink, rofl :)
[01:54] <ordicasse> Seveas: sudo fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6324
[01:54] <raphink> loooool
[01:54] <thoreauputic> rapha: that isn't saying much is it?
[01:54] <iive> hello, do you know how to upgrade packages that are "The following packages have been kept back:" even when i make apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:54] <Morrowyn> nope, doesnt feed me fps, but mine runs awefully slow :-/
[01:54] <brenner> i seriously remember there being an option though
[01:54] <raphink> thoreauputic: Debian GNU/Hurd/Mach was a pain in the neck for speed
[01:55] <raphink> thoreauputic: hopefully, GNU/Hurd/L4 is going to be far faster
[01:55] <visik7> anybody using liferea ?
[01:55] <mendy> I'm having an install problem can someone help?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> rapha: ah - interesting
[01:55] <wizardjames> ok..  question:  made a new ext partion, inside of it when i mount it . it has a lost+found   ..thing   what is this?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> visik7: yes
[01:55] <mcscruff> seveas: i have never used the command :( i the folder is called "Music" how do i fully write it?
[01:55] <visik7> thoreauputic: have you the endgadget rss ???
[01:55] <Seveas> ordicasse: Partition table entries are not in disk order, i guess gparted borks on that
[01:55] <mwe> mendy: maybe if you tell us what the problem is
[01:55] <robotgeek> visik7: yes
[01:55] <visik7> robotgeek: which question ?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> visik7: I don't even know what that is :)
[01:55] <Seveas> mcscruff, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER mcscruff
[01:55] <robotgeek> visik7: i use liferea
[01:56] <visik7> robotgeek: have you the engadget rss ?
[01:56] <mendy> I installed and when coming up for the first time it's getting stuck on the hotswap part
[01:56] <mcscruff> thankyou
[01:56] <ordicasse> Seveas: when I switch on my computer it tries to load GRUB and then says "error 24"
[01:56] <mevvis> tai sutvarkem ta kaitima
[01:56] <mevvis> nebekaista
[01:56] <mendy> So I booted in safe mode and I see it's getting stuck by agpgart
[01:56] <robotgeek> visik7: no, i'm not on my usual ubuntu too. so i odon't have access to liferea, sorry
[01:56] <Seveas> mevvis, english please
[01:56] <mendy> AGP aperture
[01:56] <mevvis> beda buvo 0.13A
[01:56] <visik7> robotgeek: :/
[01:56] <wza> how link php5 to apache2? gettin' 'save as' prompt when trying to load php files atm
[01:56] <mendy> I can't bring up ubuntu
[01:56] <rapha> thoreauputic: Got it working ... apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 :-)
[01:56] <rapha> Thanks!
[01:56] <rapha> Bye!
[01:56] <mendy> But the install went clean
[01:56] <mevvis> o
[01:56] <mevvis> sorry
[01:56] <mendy> So what do I do now?
[01:57] <mendy> It's a p4 computer
[01:57] <mendy> a new one with a 3g processor
[01:57] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: SystemTools -> Configuration Editor
[01:57] <ordicasse> Seveas: I can mount /dev/hda1 which is windows, but I can't mount the two other Linux partitions /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda5, /dev/hda6 is the swap
[01:57] <mendy> What is causing the hangup? I have know idea
[01:57] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources -> Set True
[01:58] <Morrowyn> ok
[01:58] <wizardjames> anyone,  i made a new ext3 partion, mounted it. and theres this lost+found   file init..  what is this?
[01:59] <maskd> wizardjames: you can delete it
[01:59] <munzir> brenner, Morrowyn: ok I found it, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:59] <wizardjames> o ok, so its just junk.. kk
[01:59] <Morrowyn> thanks robotgeek , it was kinda getting on my nerves :)
[01:59] <Morrowyn> lol :) munzir
[02:00] <brenner> munzir: lol, good point.  but i'm sure i remember someone asked before
[02:00] <brenner> maybe it was with fglrxgears though
[02:00] <robotgeek> Morrowyn: i kinda like that feature for gaim an stuff
[02:01] <Morrowyn> :)
[02:02] <ordicasse> Seveas: do you have a solution ?
[02:02] <robzon> anyone using dapper drake yet? :)
[02:02] <robotgeek> robzon: yes
[02:02] <maskd> robzon: i was but i screwed it, so im back to good old breezy
[02:02] <trae> I've got a "Blank DVD+R Disc" icon on my desktop that won't go away even after the disc has been ejected.  (and another different disc was inserted)
[02:02] <maskd> only thing im missing is vlc :(
[02:03] <robzon> robotgeek: is it stable enough to use it as a chat/email machine?
[02:03] <jvNET> hello guys, what the terminal command to run Applications Menu Editor? it wont show up even I rebooted several times
[02:03] <ompaul> robzon, it is in development this means that if you choose to use it it may break tomorrow or the next day and you have to wait for others to fix it - breezy is stable
[02:03] <robzon> vlc? is it used as a default player in dapper drake?
[02:03] <maskd> nah
[02:03] <maskd> totem is
[02:03] <brenner> jvNET: smeg
[02:03] <maskd> but i like vlc
[02:03] <robotgeek> robzon: sure :)
[02:04] <jvNET> thanks
[02:04] <robzon> maskd: so why don't you use it on breezy? ;)
[02:04] <robotgeek> robzon: though, you must not have dependency on X :)
[02:04] <maskd> robzon: cuz the version for breezy isnt very good, it was updated on dapper
[02:05] <hypn0> is there a how to for compiling stuff
[02:05] <robzon> robotgeek: well.. i can always use irssi when X goes crazy ;) or ask in this channel if everything's ok with current snapshot, before I decide to upgrade packages ;)
[02:05] <robotgeek> maskd: if you want the gtk version, get it from backports
[02:05] <pawel> hypn0: what do you mean?
[02:05] <robotgeek> robzon: yes, irssi is what i use all the time :)
[02:06] <ompaul> !compiling
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:06] <hypn0> i get missing stdio.h error pawel
[02:06] <pawel> then that link should do.
[02:07] <hypn0> k, thx
[02:07] <Morrowyn> whats a good gnome cd burn program?
[02:07] <Morrowyn> or should i go with k3b ...?
[02:08] <ompaul> Morrowyn, nautilyus works for me
[02:08] <onispawn> Morrowyn: I like k3b, but a lot of people like gnomebaker
[02:08] <robzon> ah there's that annoying stroke width bug in inkscape 0.42... dapper drake has 0.43 already, maybe it's fixed there.. hmm
[02:08] <ompaul> Morrowyn, nautilus even
[02:08] <Morrowyn> ok
[02:08] <mendy> What's the hotplug subsystem?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: graveman is good too
[02:08] <ompaul> mendy, how the machine handles devices
[02:08] <mendy> My computer is not coming up it's getting stuck on "Starting hotplug subsystem"
[02:08] <Morrowyn> well i need to be able to burn iso's and drag and drop my files to make data cd's and occasionally make an audio cd from mp3's
[02:09] <maskd> oh i do like synaptic, so easy to use
[02:09] <Mabus06> how do you make a user sudo enabled?
[02:09] <torbjorn> a recent kernel upgrade, also involginv gcc 3.3 -> 4.0 upgrade causes the computer no longer to boot, is that a known or expected problem?
[02:09] <ompaul> mendy, did it ever work?
[02:09] <maskd> Mabus06: just type sudo
[02:09] <mendy> It's the first time I'm bringing it up after an install
[02:09] <maskd> then the command
[02:09] <mendy> No,.
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Merreither k3b or gnomabaker
[02:09] <veriz> is it possible to allow all ports with router and then administer them with iptables?
[02:09] <Mabus06> maskd... to make an account have sudo privileges
[02:09] <mendy> I just finished installing
[02:09] <thoreauputic> bah bad tab complete sorry
[02:09] <mendy> It's stuck on the hotplug subsystem
[02:10] <mendy> any ideas?
[02:10] <Mabus06> do you have usb devices or a nvidia card in?
[02:10] <wizardjames> how do i copy all files from one area to another?
[02:11] <maskd> Mabus06: I think it's in System > Administraion > Users and Groups
[02:11] <maskd> select properties on the user and go to the user priveledges tab
[02:11] <thoreauputic> wizardjames: in GUI or CLI ?
[02:11] <mendy> ompaul, do you know anything about installs?
[02:11] <maskd> and check executing system administration tasks
[02:11] <wizardjames> ..um..    with a line?
[02:12] <Junior|> Hello. Is it possible to build an install cd with support for ITE821x cards on it?
[02:12] <maskd> wizardjames: cp -R /folder/ /folder/
[02:12] <torbjorn> should wrong gcc version prevent a system from booting?
[02:12] <ompaul> mendy, okay it looks like a bad install, I suggest the following, reinstall this time when the initial boot stops type "server" on the prompt line on the install cd (about 10 or so seconds in) after that base install at the command line type >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< and asking me only delayed the answer - you should always give people a chance as you do not know how complex the answer is or what they have to research :-)
[02:12] <mwe> torbjorn: no
[02:12] <Morrowyn> ill try both nautilus and gnomebaker, see what i like
[02:12] <wizardjames> thanks..will try
[02:13] <torbjorn> mwe: thanks
[02:13] <Morrowyn> i dont wanna have kdelibs on my system, until i really really really need them
[02:13] <flames> hello, how can i add ~/bin to my default paths?
[02:13] <mendy> Thanks ompaul
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: then install gnomebaker
[02:13] <ompaul> mendy, :-)
[02:13] <Morrowyn> i just did :)
[02:13] <Trym> hi
[02:13] <Viper12> welp, I've been lurkin.........but just had to pop in to say one thing.  an x86 install of breezy + Automatix just saved me over 4 hours fartin' around.  MAN what a cool app for ubuntu! :)
[02:14] <ompaul> !automatix
[02:14] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[02:14] <antix> can I get out of gdm and get to text-mode? my login does not work. it stops on "window manager"... ctrl-alt-backspace only gets me back to gdm...
[02:14] <Viper12> lmao the ubotu can kissa mah butt. lmao
[02:14] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: I quite like graveman too - but not for music CDs
[02:14] <mwe> !automatix
[02:14] <Morrowyn> ok\
[02:14] <ompaul> Viper12, there is a thing called easyubuntu which is better for that
[02:14] <Morrowyn> well 90% of my time its burning iso's
[02:14] <Trym> who does know about the pppoeconf bug?
[02:14] <Morrowyn> just want to be able to drag and drop the iso and burn it
[02:15] <Viper12> i've used easyubuntu on a laptop.  tried them both as a comparison.  guess which one I liked better? -grin.
[02:15] <brenner> are kubuntu and ubuntu repos the same?
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: which nautilus does fine
[02:15] <mjr> brenner, yes
[02:15] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[02:15] <Viper12> lol
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: in fact for ISOs just right click
[02:15] <rohan> hi all
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: there's a burn option in the context menu
[02:16] <antix> what do I need to install to get a functioning gnome environment?
[02:16] <Junior|> antix: ctrl-alt-f1
[02:16] <Morrowyn> :)
[02:16] <mjr> antix, ubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <Morrowyn> thats nice
[02:16] <rohan> rar on ubuntu can handle password protected rar archives ?
[02:16] <antix> Junior|, yes that normally works but does nothing on that machine.. :(
[02:16] <wizardjames> maskd,  how long does this take..  its around 5-7 gigs of data..     its been going for around 40 secs..    this normal?
[02:16] <Morrowyn> i really like ubuntu so far
[02:16] <Viper12> I'm curious though, why is the bot screaming about auto?  It seems well positioned in the forums as a good solution....with pages of compliments.
[02:16] <Morrowyn> especially the gnome, it reminds me of osx
[02:16] <mwe> wizardjames: dma is enabled?
[02:16] <Morrowyn> in some ways, not all
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: or you can type burn:/// in the location field in nautilus and drag stuff there
[02:17] <Morrowyn> wow
[02:17] <wizardjames> um, yea last time i checked
[02:17] <Trym> bye
[02:17] <ompaul> Trym, check launchpad.net for reports
[02:17] <ordicasse> my system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), is there an application that can rescue my datas from the two linux partition ?
[02:17] <rohan> !rar
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[02:17] <Morrowyn> now i just need to install the eclipse and neverwinternights and im all fine and dandy :)
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: or use the "Go" menu :)
[02:18] <Morrowyn> lol
[02:18] <mwe> wizardjames: are you copying to a different drive?
[02:18] <Viper12> mwe, it depends......I've YET to see dma turned on for cdrom/dvd/burners on the installs I've done as a default.  I've always had to manually turn it on.
[02:18] <wizardjames> its same drive to same drive..but..  its nfts to ext3
[02:18] <mwe> Viper12: yeah
[02:18] <ompaul> Viper12, when things break where do people turn to? why do you think it ended up like that?
[02:19] <Viper12> ompaul?
[02:19] <mwe> Viper12: well it was on for my cd-rw drive as well as the hdd
[02:19] <Junior|> does anyone have an ITE8211/8212 driver built for 2.6.12 ?
[02:19] <Draken> guys, can i format the drive for linux IN the install cd setup
[02:19] <ompaul> Viper12, you asked about the bot shouting
[02:19] <Draken> or is it done else were ?
[02:19] <Morrowyn> i read xorg6.9 and 7.0 were released, any idea when its in the ubuntu stuff?
[02:19] <zwnj> anyone knows if vmware package exist in .tar.* or .deb?
[02:19] <Junior|> i don't have a linux up and running, since the installer doesn't find my drives, so i can't compile it myself
[02:19] <visik7> Draken: yes u can
[02:19] <Draken> k ta
[02:19] <Junior|> zwnj: vmware is commercial
[02:20] <ompaul> Draken, you can, it would be easier with a live CD
[02:20] <Viper12> ompaul, ahhh..........well it does have its caveats and 'don't do's in the forum posting right off the bat.  I guess.........let the user beware...but for a clean install to x86 desktop, that was an amazingly good experience for me.l
[02:20] <mwe> wizardjames: it's still copying? well you know you can always check if dma is on with hdparm /dev/hda? asuming hda is your hdd
[02:20] <bonez> hey ... just a simple ownership question quys... if a users belongs to a group (not primary) he should be able to Delete etc a file that is owned by said group (with premission set to 775) right??
[02:20] <Viper12> of course I've installed ubuntu about 50 times the old fashioned way, so I wouldn't be here whining if it didn't work...lol.  I'd just go fix it.
[02:20] <zwnj> Junior|: i know, but i got the RPM version and Alien did wrong on converting to DEB.  I used to have a .tar.gz on vmware 4.5
[02:20] <wizardjames> sdb is..but i will check
[02:21] <ompaul> Viper12, and how often do people just jump in with both feet to find that the water actually is over their head?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> bonez: I would think so yes
[02:21] <bonez> me to ;) .. just dont work it seems
[02:22] <bonez> nothing to do with the group not being the users primary group ?
[02:22] <ys76> I am looking for a reliable backup-soluton for about 60 servers (sorry, bust mostly win) which is really easy to use (due to my win-admins) - Anybody?
[02:22] <mwe> zwnj: why did you get the rpm version instead of the tgz one?
[02:22] <Viper12> best way to learn something, if you ask me, but I hear where you're coming from...but for those who 'know' how to do it, but "sigh" at the length of time to get it all done, that was a breath o' fresh air.l
[02:22] <Morrowyn> whats a good anti virus for ubuntu that checks for  w32 virusses also?
[02:22] <wizardjames> what do i look for when looking if it has dma?  ..
[02:22] <zwnj> mwe: yes
[02:22] <zwnj> btw, just found .tar format
[02:22] <zwnj> thanks all :)
[02:22] <thoreauputic> bonez: if the user belongs to the group with 7 permissions he should be free t read /write/execute
[02:22] <mwe> wizardjames: using_dma = 1 (on)
[02:23] <wizardjames> nothin with that there
[02:23] <ompaul> bonez, should not impact it
[02:23] <bonez> hmm well then what the hell is wrong here..
[02:23] <ompaul> bonez, ls -l and check that group that is the group of the file
[02:24] <bonez> i did " chgrp -R www-data /folder " && chmod -R 775 /folder
[02:24] <bonez> then did " usermod -G www-data user
[02:24] <bonez> "
[02:25] <Viper12> not sure what ya need an a/v for ubuntu for Morrowyn, but I've heard clam is decent.  (if you're using a mail server TO win clients I could see a use.)
[02:25] <QQ_ghost> how do i set up a DHCP/domain server with ubuntu
[02:25] <ompaul> bonez, chown -R www-data:www-data folder should have done the job
[02:26] <ompaul> bonez, as long as you are using sudo
[02:26] <bonez> (i;m using sudo -s -H .. :) )
[02:26] <bonez> hmm
[02:26] <mwe> wizardjames: hmm the man page says it's supposed to be an ATA/IDE drive. yours is scsi, right?
[02:27] <wizardjames> sata
[02:27] <mendy> ompaul I need your help again
[02:27] <Morrowyn> well i dont to have linux worms on my system, even if i run as non root, it can still affect my data
[02:27] <bonez> QQ_ghost, dhcp --> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:27] <wizardjames> sda and sdb are my 2 drives
[02:27] <Morrowyn> dont to have/dont want to have
[02:27] <mendy> I did what you said, and I'm getting a kernel panic at startup
[02:27] <maskd> wizardjames: scsi and sata are treated as the same by ubuntu i think
[02:27] <mwe> wizardjames: should work then. I don't know why it doesn't mention dma
[02:28] <rapha> Back
[02:28] <rapha> Now I got a Ubuntu PPC problem
[02:28] <ordicasse> my system doesn't boot anymore, and I can't mount my two linux partition from the live cd (only the windows partition is mountable), can someone help me ?
[02:28] <wizardjames> when i try "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sdb"
[02:28] <wizardjames> i get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:28] <rapha> I moved a hard drive with installed Ubuntu from one Mac to another ... does anybody know how to make it boot?
[02:28] <mwe> ordicasse: did you run fsck on them?
[02:29] <ompaul> mendy, ask the channel if I can help then I will but what if (A) I am off having coffee or (B) don't know the answer I might get embarrassed
[02:29] <thoreauputic> wizardjames: I think hdparm only works for IDE drives
[02:29] <maskd> wizardjames: does sudo hdparm -d1 -X /dev/sdb work?
[02:29] <ordicasse> mwe: no, i didn't
[02:29] <ompaul> mendy, as for your question then something else is wrong
[02:29] <mwe> ordicasse: I would
[02:30] <wizardjames> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setxfermode) failed: Input/output error
[02:30] <ompaul> mendy, you booted from the CD? and it paused it asks you do you want to type server you choose server and it fails is that correct?
[02:30] <maskd> wizardjames: i can hdparm on my sata drive without any flags
[02:30] <bonez> ompaul, hmm wtf .. uhm i think i miss typed the group ... it works now .. thanks man ..
[02:30] <maskd> wizardjames: but with the -d1 flag i get the same error as you
[02:30] <mendy> Yes, the install went fine, ompaul, and on the startup I got the panic ,
[02:30] <ompaul> bolrod, np
[02:30] <wizardjames> ok
[02:31] <Morrowyn> how come mplayer isnt in the ubuntu rep anymore?
[02:31] <ompaul> bonez, np even
[02:31] <wizardjames> same
[02:31] <ompaul> bolrod, wrong spy
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: it is
[02:31] <Ubunti_Ki> where does sources.list locate?
[02:31] <Morrowyn> hmmmm
[02:31] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[02:31] <rapha> Anybody proficient with yaboot?
[02:31] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[02:31] <xbrucex> !info x264
[02:31] <maskd> Morrowyn: are you checking universe repos?
[02:31] <mendy> I tried booting in safe mode, and I see it got stuck by the AGP video card, i think
[02:31] <Morrowyn> lemme see which sources i grab
[02:31] <thoreauputic> mplayer is multiverse as you see above
[02:31] <Viper12> Morrowyn,  you really should give this a read.....its an eye opener from someone who ISNT a spokesman for an A/Virus company.   http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus
[02:31] <ordicasse> mwe: it doesn't work for "sudo fsck /dev/hda3" (my main linux partition), it says "fsck.ext3: Filesystem revision too high...
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: that sounds weird
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: from knoppix you say?
[02:32] <ompaul> mendy, it installed, you took out the CD and it is panicing? what is the panic message (roughly) if you want to type a lot of stuff use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give the url when you are finished
[02:32] <ordicasse> mwe: the superblock looks to be corrupted
[02:32] <ordicasse> mwe: no, from ubuntu live cd
[02:32] <mwe> ordicasse: ok
[02:33] <wizardjames> mwe,  i think i found the prob..    how do i mount a ext3 partion with full control..
[02:33] <Morrowyn> breezy , breezy-updates, breezy-security main universe restricted
[02:33] <ordicasse> mwe: do you think i should better try from knoppix ?
[02:33] <ompaul> mendy, is this a PC or a mac?
[02:33] <rapha> Was it the INSTALL or the LIVE cd that had a "repair" option?
[02:33] <Ubunti_Ki> i wanna update my sources.list, where does it locate?
[02:33] <mwe> ordicasse: If fsck can't run on it, I don't know any other 'fix' than to reformat the partitions
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: you need multiverse
[02:34] <ompaul> Ubunti_Ki, only use sources for ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list random debian sources will break your box
[02:34] <thoreauputic> Ubunti_Ki: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <ordicasse> mwe: but i have very important datas on my partition...
[02:34] <mwe> ordicasse: but if they're hosed, you can't save the data
[02:35] <mendy> It's after the cd is taken out, and it wants to finish the installation, it starts running all sorts of things past me on the screen until it comes to a halt. Its a PC. The error message is like I said Kernel panic - not syncing: Attemting to kill init! Before it is a few lines dealing with apic_timer, force_sig_info etcc...
[02:35] <ltibor65> I want to install Zapping deb package. But it requires Python2.3 or later. So I installed Python 2.4.2 from the source. It is good. But installing Zapping the error message is the same. Why? What to do?
[02:35] <bonez> ompaul, hmm i spoke to soon :(
[02:35] <ordicasse> mwe: there's no rescue application ?
[02:35] <mwe> ordicasse: anyway maybe someone else has a suggestion, though I doubt anything will work when fsck doesn't even run on the partitions
[02:35] <ompaul> mwe, ordicasse always a good thing in cases like that to use a live cd
[02:35] <maskd> wizardjames: you can edit fstab then go sudo mount 0a
[02:35] <maskd> -a
[02:35] <mwe> ompaul: he is
[02:35] <afief> My windows partition, /dev/hda1 always get's mounted only with root permission, how can i change that default?
[02:36] <ordicasse> ompaul: yes i'm using a live cd right now, but it doesn't really help actually
[02:36] <Viper12> mendy, have you tried to install with the no apic option that is given in the boot options of the installer?
[02:36] <maskd> afief: chown -R $user:$user /media/hda1
[02:36] <maskd> or whatever you mount it to
[02:36] <Morrowyn> Viper12, thats all fine and i understand, however i dont want a virus messing up my data, i dont care if a virus can or cannot affect other ppl's data
[02:36] <thoreauputic> maskd: no, it's an fstab issue
[02:36] <afief> maskd: will that change the way it gets mounted everytime or just this time?
[02:37] <ompaul> ordicasse ooch, fsck will not work - that is bad, what does a terminal fdisk -l say pop the output into a paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:37] <Viper12> and the POINT of th article points out the absolutely silly user that lets it happen. shrugs.
[02:37] <thoreauputic> afief: it won't - you need to edit /etc/fstab
[02:37] <maskd> thoreauputic: oh ok
[02:37] <mendy> I didn't go into the boot options, should I , and could you explain how?
[02:37] <Morrowyn> thoreauputic, do i just append multiverse on the breezy universe line or do i replace universe with multiverse?
[02:37] <maskd> how come thoreauputic? im a noob and id like to learn as much as possible
[02:37] <afief> thoreauoutic: but WHAT do i need to edit there?:)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> hi all
[02:37] <thoreauputic> afief: I use /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022       0 0
[02:37] <unimatrix9> how is it going?
[02:37] <unimatrix9> all well?
[02:37] <Viper12> mendy, when you first get to the boot screen of the installer, there are choices in the f1-f8 keys.  these show options for installing ubuntu...and one of those involves booting with a noapic option for some machines.
[02:38] <ordicasse> ompaul: fdisk -l => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6324
[02:38] <thoreauputic> afief: if you want mount on boot use auto instead of noauto
[02:38] <flames> my ~/.bash_profile contains this line: PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" and ~/bin is exists, but echo $PATH (/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games) not include ~/bin, what's wrong?
[02:38] <Viper12> sorry I can't remember the exact command off the top, but there is a command line argument for fussy apic boxes.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Morrowyn: append
[02:38] <mwe> maskd: you're can't chmod on a mounted ntfs partition. you need to use mount options instead
[02:38] <maskd> mwe: thanks i didnt know that
[02:39] <melodie> hello ordicasse, did you succeed saving your datas ?
[02:39] <unimatrix9> is it not better ( for newbee ) to mount windows partition using : mount -t auto /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows?
[02:39] <Morrowyn> ok :)
[02:39] <mendy> Ok viper12, thank you I will follow your instructions, Can you tell me more about the noapic and how it affects my boot?
[02:39] <ompaul> mendy, now you are managing to confuse me, lets be very clear here, as the install CD boots it offers a prompt where most people press enter, at this time you should enter the word "server" that is all I requested, if you have done this it will attempt an install, at the end of that install your machine should reboot. at that time you log in and run the command I gave
[02:39] <ordicasse> melodie: no, unfortunately, not yet
[02:39] <unimatrix9> or does it need to be vfat, or ntfs?
[02:39] <something_else> having a problem, since upgrading to 2.6.14 pmount doesnt seem to work
[02:39] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: it's better to have the right fstab entry :)
[02:39] <something_else> Ive tried a later version of pmount Im still having the same problem
[02:40] <wizardjames> is this a ok line to put in fstab for my partion?  "/dev/sda3       /home/trevor/Filesofall    ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[02:40] <unimatrix9> ok
[02:40] <unimatrix9> so the "new"user needs to know what it is...
[02:40] <ordicasse> melodie: i'm still looking for a solution but i don't know any application that could rescue my datas
[02:40] <silverpower> Can I force the installer to use mac-fdisk instead of the 'guided partitioning' tool? The 'guided partitoning' tries to use the whole disk, which is not what I want.
[02:40] <melodie> ordicasse: as you can't get a cfdisk to work, you could do a 'df -h' to have a reminder of the space used by each partition
[02:40] <something_else> in that when I actually add a usb device or insert a cdrom, nautilus doesnt allow me to double click and view the contents
[02:40] <ompaul> ordicasse, at a teminal prompt if you type >> sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3  << what do you get back?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: then you don't have to keep specifying mount options
[02:40] <unimatrix9> ah , ok
[02:40] <Viper12> missed the part where ompaul was assisting mendy.............steps aside....but the apic options are for certain boxes with flaky m.board/bios issues.
[02:40] <melodie> what do you think about that ?
[02:41] <mwe> thoreauputic: why are you using umask 022? the 0 for owner is in effect 2 when it's mounted ro. 222 or 0222 would make more sense to me
[02:41] <afief> thoreauputic: i have no /etc/fstab:S
[02:41] <unimatrix9> thoreauputic, dont i know you from knoppix?
[02:41] <ompaul> Viper12, run with it I have to prepare for work could do with a few mins :)
[02:41] <thoreauputic> mwe: 0222 would be fine too
[02:41] <maskd> wizardjames: i may be wrong but on my fstab which was done by default ubuntu install, all of the ext3 partitions that arent being boot off look like "/dev/sda5       /media/sda6     ext3    defaults        0       2"
[02:41] <mendy> ompaul, I did exactly like you said (i think) but I never got the command line. thanks viper12
[02:41] <thoreauputic> afief: of course you do
[02:42] <wizardjames> ok thanks
[02:42] <raphink> afief: that can be a pb huhu
[02:42] <ordicasse> ompaul: sudo fsck -y /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6326
[02:42] <something_else> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6327
[02:42] <thoreauputic> afief: otherwise your machine wouldn't be running :)
[02:42] <Viper12> np mendy.  and ompaul, if mendy is having apic errors and such, the no-apic options as a choice may be the solution to the issue.l
[02:42] <mendy> Because the system never came up. ompaul, sorry for breaking the lines :::
[02:42] <something_else> people, that is the error shown
[02:42] <melodie> ordicasse: what I think about to rescue your datas would be to format just enough space, and do a direct copy from within the Ubuntu installer as I told you yesterday on the fr chan
[02:42] <raphink> afief: how do you know you've got no /etc/fstab ?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> afief:  sudo gedit /etc/fstab   to edit it
[02:43] <melodie> that's why a 'df -k' or 'df -h' would be useful to get
[02:43] <afief> entered /etc in nautilus as root, and couldn't find it:S
[02:43] <BrianB04> Morning all
[02:43] <mwe> ordicasse: what does fdisk -y do? and why ary you running fdisk on a partition instead of a disk?
[02:43] <thoreauputic> afief: just try typing what I said above
[02:43] <afief> oh... it's a file? damn! was looking for a folder(old windows habbits: no extension=folder)
[02:43] <something_else> hello Brian
[02:43] <maskd> try in terminal, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:44] <Viper12> lol
[02:44] <beep> Does any one knows for sound juicer?
[02:44] <BrianB04> What's up in here this morning?
[02:44] <something_else> am i here?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> afief: heh *nix doesn't play extension games ;)
[02:44] <something_else> as in visible?
[02:44] <maskd> something_else: yes
[02:44] <markive> hi all
[02:44] <something_else> oh thank you, maskd
[02:44] <thoreauputic> afief: or rather , doesn't need to
[02:45] <afief> yes, but could you tell me how it knows the difference between files?
[02:45] <ordicasse> mwe: fdisk -y does nothing
[02:45] <ompaul> mwe, cos I asked him to read that again - fsck -y not fdisk which was the previous line and it is my opinion from the conversation thus far that the partition is not mounted that is why he is here
[02:45] <Viper12> lol thoreau....its a hard hurtle to realize that to *nix........there ain't no such thing as folders.....just files that point to files.   gotta luv it.
[02:45] <unimatrix9> an other question, if i do sudo passwd , and type an new passwd, the defualt issue with ubuntu an root is solved , right?
[02:45] <maskd> does it use metadata like mac os?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> afief: try typing   file somefile  to see
[02:45] <beep> can someone help with cd databases...
[02:45] <mendy> viper12, do you mean to write at the boot prompt pci=noacpi?
[02:46] <mendy> Sorry I mean noapic?
[02:46] <markive> need something like peerguardian for ubuntu
[02:46] <melodie> ordicasse: please do preceed you commands with 'LANG=C' to get all the results in english  :)
[02:46] <mwe> ordicasse: my eyes are tired. I misread what you typed, sorry
[02:46] <thoreauputic> afief: the "file" command shows you how the system can guess file types
[02:46] <ompaul> ordicasse, do this: e2fsck  /dev/hda3
[02:46] <Viper12> mendy, if that's the command given by the boot process, then yes.  I don't remember that exact command, but those commands get typed after the : and then you press enter.
[02:46] <afief> it only tells me the kind of file... not how it guessed:(
[02:46] <thoreauputic> afief: ah yes - true :)
[02:47] <KurtKraut> Ubuntu releases its own kernel. I've just turned on my ubuntu box and I saw a kernel update. Where is listed the features/bugfixes of the Ubuntu's kernel versions ?
[02:47] <KurtKraut> Is there a website for that ?
[02:47] <melodie> ompaul : e2fsck and fsck are the same tools  :/
[02:47] <ordicasse> melodie: thanks for this command...
[02:47] <Viper12> kurt, if you show 'details' below the list, it should give the info as to what the update entails.
[02:47] <Viper12> (in package update screen.)
[02:47] <pl_ice> hey, any packets for gnome to put random wallpapers ?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> afief: for example if a file needs to be executable it has the executable bits set
[02:47] <melodie> ordicasse, welcome  :)
[02:48] <melodie> $ LANG=C fsck /dev/hda1
[02:48] <melodie> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[02:48] <melodie> e2fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[02:48] <melodie> ;)
[02:48] <wizardjames> whats going ON?  blast , this jsut not working..   aw well..  i will format my hdd tommorw and restart.   i know how to get to were i am in in 4 hours time anyways..  blash,  this really bugs me
[02:48] <thoreauputic> afief: so it doesn't need ".exe"
[02:48] <ompaul> do and h
[02:48] <KurtKraut> Viper12, let me check on synaptic
[02:48] <ordicasse> ompaul: e2fsck /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6328
[02:48] <afief> thoreauptic: i'm having a good time with Ubuntu on my laptop, but could you tell me how to create an Ad-Hoc wireless?
[02:48] <maskd> extensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway
[02:48] <ordicasse> ompaul: it's all in english now
[02:49] <thoreauputic> afief: what i know about wireless fits comfortably on a postage stamp
[02:50] <unimatrix9> afief : go to system / administration /entwork
[02:50] <thoreauputic> maskd: "extensions are a dodgy way of determining file type anyway" <-- indeed, and a security issue in windows
[02:50] <melodie> ordicasse: have you tried what the last line says in the shell ? do you read the output of console ?
[02:50] <unimatrix9> network
[02:50] <KurtKraut> Viper12, I what more details than that. There is probably a website for that. Do you know where should I find it ?
[02:50] <maskd> thoreauputic: although useful at times to manipulate, eg if you want to send an .exe over msn messenger simply rename it .exe.jpg or something
[02:50] <melodie> ordicasse, "ou might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[02:50] <melodie>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"
[02:50] <unimatrix9> in network wttings
[02:50] <afief> unimatrix9: i am there...
[02:50] <Vezzo--> Estou numa rede com Proxy MS e o apt-get soh funciona apos a instalacao e configuracao do ubuntu. Gostaria de mudar a linguagem do sistema para o Portugues Brasil depois dele instalado... alguem sabe o q faco
[02:50] <unimatrix9> you will find your wireless card
[02:50] <unimatrix9>  i hope..
[02:50] <afief> yes
[02:51] <ordicasse> melodie: i tried but the result is the same
[02:51] <thoreauputic> maskd: which is also how people mask viruses in emails
[02:51] <afief> it works with normal networks, but never got it into ad-hocs
[02:51] <maskd> how has drivers for netgear wireless cards been going?
[02:51] <KurtKraut> Vezzo--, faa perguntas em ingls aqui.
[02:51] <maskd> yeah i know thoreauputic
[02:51] <melodie> ok. what does df -h say ?
[02:51] <maskd> unfortunately people are stupid enough to open them =/
[02:51] <unimatrix9> afief, hold on my battery just stopped
[02:51] <thoreauputic> maskd: :)
[02:52] <ompaul> ordicasse, I am reading the man page for that
[02:52] <afief> hmmm... while unimatrix is busy, could someone tell me how to see if my ATI card has hardware acceleration enabled or not?
[02:52] <unimatrix9> hmm, maybe i dont understand what you mean by adhoc
[02:52] <ordicasse> ompaul: thanks
[02:52] <dotchad> i was trying to install xchat but an error occoured, anyone knows how to solve it? http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=5234878355681666554
[02:52] <unimatrix9> glxinfo | grep direct
[02:52] <melodie> ordicasse, if your datas are really most important, you might go to a specialized store to ask them to attempt to save the datas, and there get a new hdd  I'm afraid
[02:53] <thoreauputic> maskd: one problem is the term "open" - clicking this stuff is actually executing a program - but people don't understand the concept of course
[02:53] <markive> afief , run pengiun racer
[02:53] <melodie> how old is your hard drive ?
[02:53] <afief> unimatrix9: ad-hoc network: a network where two computers commiunicate without an Access Point or anything, like a Cross Cable for LAN
[02:53] <visik7> dotchad: apt-get install xchat doesn't work ?
[02:53] <maskd> thoreauputic: yeah i like how with ubuntu it will tell you what it program the files are opening with
[02:53] <unimatrix9> ah
[02:53] <Morrowyn> weee, mplayerplugin made firefox crash :)
[02:53] <visik7> afief: put one in master mode and the other in managed
[02:53] <ordicasse> melodie: if I can't rescue the datas myself with the linux community help, how could they do it ?
[02:53] <dotchad> i need to compile
[02:54] <thoreauputic> maskd: yup
[02:54] <visik7> dotchad: why ?
[02:54] <dotchad> http://www.xchat.org/compiling/
[02:54] <maskd> anyway i'm off to bed it's getting late
[02:54] <maskd> seeyas later
[02:54] <dotchad> i was following these steps
[02:54] <visik7> dotchad: why u need to compile ?
[02:54] <afief> visik7: master mode? managed? I don't know what you mean
[02:54] <dotchad> what's another way
[02:54] <thoreauputic> dotchad: umm - xchat is installed by default - why are you installing it?
[02:55] <unimatrix9> afief, good question, dont know the answer to that one..
[02:55] <dotchad> i want to update
[02:55] <thoreauputic> :/
[02:55] <visik7> afief: do u need to connect 2 linux pc without an AP ?
[02:55] <onispawn> afief: man iwconfig
[02:55] <unimatrix9> i will read with you to find out...:P
[02:55] <Wilf> what is the google ip address?
[02:56] <Wilf> for dns errors?
[02:56] <onispawn> afief: its something like iwconfig mode <eth1> Ad-Hock
[02:56] <ompaul> ordicasse,  one last thing >>e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3<< if that fails change the number to 16384 and if that fails change the number to 32768
[02:56] <Viper12> kurtkraut, not sure what you need info wise regarding kernel updates, but for 'released' versions, the only updates would be security patch stuff...anyway you might check the ubuntu-kernel channel and ask there.
[02:56] <visik7> Widoff: they have more than 1
[02:56] <Wilf> !ubotu dns
[02:56] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Wilf
[02:56] <Wilf> !dns
[02:56] <afief> visik: a linux and a windows PC. my friend is still using the old system:)
[02:56] <unimatrix9> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows - how do i do i give acces to it for normal user?
[02:56] <melodie> ordicasse, they could do it with appropriate professional material, when they have it  ;)
[02:56] <afief> onispawn: did that but i can't connect to him that way, or he to me
[02:56] <trappist> Wilf: it's /msg ubotu dns (or whatever subject)
[02:56] <visik7> afief: put your card in master mode it will act ad an AP
[02:57] <Wilf> ah, ok.
[02:57] <trappist> unimatrix9: -o umask=0
[02:57] <unimatrix9> ok thanxs
[02:57] <melodie> ordicasse, I'm looking in a thread on a ml about a tool to test the hard drive, I take a look and I come back
[02:57] <afief> iwconfig eth0 mode master ? this way?
[02:57] <melodie> I tested mine once with that
[02:57] <onispawn> afief: you probably have to assign an ip address with ifconfig. windows automatically assigns an adhoc ip address, but linux doesnt
[02:58] <Morrowyn> nvm, fixed it :)
[02:58] <Morrowyn> the perms were on -x , chenged it to +x
[02:58] <afief> onisoawn: any ip will work?
[02:59] <onispawn> afief: you need to match one to the same mask as his
[02:59] <onispawn> afief: take what ever windows assigns him, and just add 1 to it
[02:59] <afief> ummm... his TCP IP protocol is set to automatic.....  so he doesn't have an ip unless he connects somewhere
[03:00] <ordicasse> ompaul: e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda3 => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6329
[03:00] <|Lestat|> is anyone here fluent in wireless usb adapters?
[03:00] <ordicasse> melodie: thanks
[03:00] <onispawn> afief: or you can specify both of your ip addresses
[03:01] <melodie> ordicasse, put in you console 'man fsck' and read at same time as me  please
[03:01] <|Lestat|> i have my wireless device installed, using ndiswrapper, it's listed in ifconfig, but when i do a  sudo dhclient wlan0 it tried to dhcpdiscover from the wrong address.... i think
[03:01] <ordicasse> melodie: ok
[03:01] <melodie> I'm discovering interesting things
[03:01] <afief> onispawn: how do you set IP with iwconfig? I dont see an ip parameter
[03:02] <mojo> is there a log of this channel I can go look at on line somewhere?
[03:02] <ompaul> ordicasse, there were two other numbers there for you to try - up arrow and move the cursor to the number and put in 16384 the other number being 32768 it will (A) succeed or (B) fail  if it fails there is nothing more I can add if it succeeds great
[03:02] <dotchad> i installed some c compilers trhough Synaptic and now i got a new error
[03:02] <mojo> I got an answer earlier that i need to look back up
[03:02] <dotchad> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:02] <dotchad>  | See `config.log' for more details.
[03:03] <thoreauputic> dotchad:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:03] <melodie> ordicasse, I also opened 'man e2fsck' additionnally, to check the options (-p option)
[03:03] <dotchad> lemme see
[03:04] <ordicasse> ompaul: you mean sudo e2fsck -b 16384 /dev/hda3 ?
[03:04] <ompaul> ordicasse, yes
[03:04] <something_else> does combination of nautilus/gvm/pmount and kernel 2.6.14 cause problems for anyone here?
[03:05] <_Lestat_> someone here must know about wireless in ubuntu
[03:05] <_Lestat_> pleessee
[03:05] <something_else> what about wireless?
[03:05] <AMD_> is xchat 2.4.4 the latest version for ubuntu ?
[03:05] <afief> what's about it?
[03:05] <_Lestat_> i am having problems getting mine to work
[03:05] <something_else> the only thing I know is that it works
[03:06] <ompaul> AMD_, yes
[03:06] <mwe> _Lestat_: pleeeeeease tell us what's wrong
[03:06] <afief> well, tell us the problem that's the best way to get attention
[03:06] <ordicasse> ompaul: the result looks to be the same: e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda3
[03:06] <_Lestat_> i had it working earlier, rebooted and now i cant get it to connect to the router
[03:06] <AMD_> ompaul: ok.  Thanks
[03:06] <mwe> _Lestat_: more specifically
[03:06] <ompaul> ordicasse, and the last number?
[03:06] <_Lestat_> it shows up in ifconfig
[03:06] <_Lestat_> i dunno more specificaly :P
[03:06] <blekos> hello guys
[03:06] <ordicasse> ompaul: what number ?
[03:06] <something_else> eh?
[03:06] <ompaul> ordicasse, 32768
[03:06] <blekos> merry Xms btw
[03:06] <something_else> does it find your router
[03:07] <something_else> as in is the essid set?
[03:07] <_Lestat_> it's pretty much rarin to go when i boot up linux, but i cant get it to ping anything for some reason
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: it works
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, after that if melodie thinks -p is useful and it might be
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, heh
[03:07] <something_else> you can search for routers using iwlist ath0 scan
[03:07] <_Lestat_> can assign an ip to it with ifconfig, but i cant get it to grab an ip from the dhcp server on my router
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, let it work it will take a little while
[03:07] <_Lestat_> any ideas?
[03:07] <tabrez> ubuntu displays all my partitions mounted in /media on the desktop but i cannot open them
[03:07] <ordicasse> ompaul: Inode 1262849 is in use, but has dtime set.  Fix<y>?
[03:07] <ompaul> ordicasse, make a coffee or something :)
[03:07] <ompaul> y
[03:07] <tabrez> i can open them only as root, from console
[03:08] <blekos> in the boot screen I see all the versions (+recovery modes) I have installed eg kernel 2.8.10 etc
[03:08] <ompaul> ordicasse, fix everything
[03:08] <tabrez> then why are they on the desktop if i can't read them from there?
[03:08] <blekos> how can I unistall them and remove them from the boot screen?
[03:08] <torbjorn> is it possible to downgrade gcc 4 to gcc 3.3?
[03:08] <something_else> what does this mena Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.384000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[03:08] <something_else> Dec 29 11:39:53 localhost kernel: [4294699.386000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table
[03:08] <_Lestat_> hmmm
[03:08] <funkyHat> blekos, find them in synaptic and remove them
[03:08] <ompaul> something_else, DONT PASTE IN HERE
[03:08] <dotchad> now glib is missing ;o
[03:08] <trappist> torbjorn: it's not necessary.  they can live side by side.
[03:08] <ubuntu> hy all how do i stop gnome
[03:08] <tabrez> blekos, if you don't want those entries to come at boot time, you can edit and remove those lines from grub configuration file
[03:08] <blekos> :) thnx
[03:08] <ubuntu> ?
[03:09] <mwe> something_else: don't paste in the channel
[03:09] <papaStrumpf> hi, I'm having a problem with CUPS here
[03:09] <torbjorn> trappist: ok thanks
[03:09] <blekos> how do I do that?
[03:09] <something_else> oh yeah, sorry
[03:09] <trappist> ubuntu: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:09] <_Lestat_> anyone? :P
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> trappist,
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> tnx
[03:09] <ompaul> something_else, paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that
[03:09] <eeeeeeee> and how do i start it again?
[03:09] <ordicasse> ompaul: it asks to fix at every incrementation.... that will take hours, is it normal ?
[03:09] <laforge> anyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?
[03:09] <something_else> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6330
[03:09] <eps> how does one install rar via apt?
[03:09] <Antubis> you men I`m using serial mouse and the Ubuntu linux didn`t find it. How can I fix this problem
[03:09] <something_else> what does that mean
[03:09] <trappist> eeeeeeee: care to take a guess?
[03:10] <something_else> recently my wiress led has stopped lighting
[03:10] <something_else> and pmount is problematic
[03:10] <ompaul> ordicasse, when it is badly broken you have a choice take a chance (ctrl+c) and start it again with the letter y beside the b
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> whenever I try to print something it says: Paused: Unable to open USB device "usb://Samsung/ML-1520": No such device
[03:10] <dotchad> how do i install glib properly?
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> don't get it
[03:10] <papaStrumpf> it's supposed to be a Linux compatible device
[03:11] <papaStrumpf> it worked in Fedora
[03:11] <ompaul> ordicasse, but it may or may not work for you -  I would actually do ctrl + c
[03:11] <eeeeeeee> trappist, i gues it is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:11] <melodie> ompaul: if ordicasse uses the e2fsck along with the '-p' option, it il correct everything non interactively right ? and he will not have to say 'y' at each attempt ?
[03:11] <fm> hi
[03:11] <ompaul> !enter
[03:11] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:11] <trappist> eeeeeeee: yep
[03:11] <something_else> I upgraded to 2.6.14 so I could watch Digital tv
[03:11] <eeeeeeee> tnx =)
[03:11] <papaStrumpf> could anybody help me?
[03:11] <ompaul> melodie, and -by will work
[03:11] <fm> I just installed a new soundcard : sound blaster audigy SE, the module is correctly loaded, but all the sound I have is an awful bzzzzz noise
[03:12] <laforge> papa: which printer ?
[03:12] <papaStrumpf> Samsung ML-1520
[03:12] <afief> How can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:12] <papaStrumpf> it uses the same driver as ML-1510
[03:12] <trappist> fm: you don't like have the speakers plugged into the mic jack or something, do you?
[03:12] <ordicasse> ompaul: i did -yb, because -by didn't work
[03:13] <ompaul> ordicasse, hehe
[03:13] <ompaul> ordicasse, learning fast :)
[03:13] <ordicasse> ompaul: are you sure it won't delete all my datas ?
[03:13] <melodie> ompaul : -by ? -b is superblock, in the e2fsck syntax, and the 'y' option is in the preceeding brackets group ? (still looking the syntax in the man)
[03:13] <melodie> so ?
[03:13] <afief> How can i enable hardware acceleratoin for my ATI X600? i already have the xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:13] <trappist> afief: sudo fglrxconfig
[03:14] <ompaul> melodie, he could not find his superblock first time -the others were corrupted if they ever existed
[03:14] <fm> trappist: I don't think so, no. Actually I get some sound, only high frequencies
[03:14] <afief> trappist: how is a human supposed yo know all these commands?
[03:14] <trappist> afief: by reading the documentation
[03:14] <trappist> afief: there are several great entries on the wiki for making the most of your ati card
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> trappist, private
[03:14] <Imagine> hi
[03:14] <trappist> eeeeeeee: no
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> pls
[03:14] <eeeeeeee> look at it
[03:15] <afief> ubuntu wikki or normal wiki?
[03:15] <Imagine> I have a problem with ubuntu instalation
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee hey can i ask you something?
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee when i try to log in it doesnt start the gnome or what is it. i try to type X or something but it doesnt work. i tryed to edit xorg.conf but that is no problem
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee and whe i reboot it says an fail
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee with numeretical generator
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee i think
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> eeeeeeee can you help me
[03:15] <eeeeeeee> ?
[03:15] <Imagine> could somebody help me with it?
[03:15] <trappist> afief: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <ompaul> ordicasse, it may loose a little on you or a lot - but in general I find that it works out okay - in 15 years of sometimes very dodgy disks I only ever fully lost one - in saying that it was a long time ago
[03:15] <ompaul> !tell eeeeeeee about enter
[03:15] <unimatrix9> if i have : sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=0000
[03:15] <ompaul> eeeeeeee, read the message from the bot
[03:15] <unimatrix9> is it write able?
[03:16] <afief> is there something like a "Backup" for my system?
[03:16] <Imagine> I searched for solutions in several forums didn't find any
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> ompaul,
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> :)
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> sorry
[03:16] <trappist> afief: it doesn't back itself up unless you configure it to do so
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> but i am confused
[03:16] <ordicasse> ompaul: I have msg like this on my screen:  Entry 'alsa-utils' in /usr/share/lintian/overrides (2111911) has deleted/unused inode 2112583.  Clear? yes
[03:16] <eeeeeeee> i tryed allmost everything
[03:16] <afief> well, how can i have it make a backup?
[03:16] <ompaul> eeeeeeee, you are being asked really nice not to press enter without a full statement or question
[03:17] <melodie> ompaul: such a long experienced can't be argued  :)
[03:17] <ompaul> melodie, such is life
[03:17] <ordicasse> ompaul: it's finished now, and it says : /media/hda3: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[03:17] <trappist> afief: you could write a little script to backup what you want backed up, or you could install backup packages like bacula
[03:17] <eeeeeeee> sorry ompaul
[03:17] <unimatrix9> sudo mount -t  ntfs  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o umask=0000
[03:17] <unimatrix9>  < is it write enabled?
[03:17] <ompaul> ordicasse, I would hope so or all that work was for nothing :)
[03:17] <ordicasse> ompaul: /media/hda3: 245812/2452800 files (1.1% non-contiguous), 2405812/4903841 blocks
[03:17] <eeeeeeee> soo an anyone help me with my erors?
[03:18] <afief> trappist: my linux experience is limited to using the GUI, some basic terminal stuff, and no scripting at all yet!
[03:18] <sonic> hi
[03:18] <ompaul> ordicasse, (A) get a backup solution in place (B) reboot your box now and test it#
[03:18] <afief> trappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver
[03:18] <trappist> afief: then I'm guessing the machine hasn't been up long enough for backups to be a very high priority :)
[03:18] <ordicasse> ompaul: thanks a lot
[03:18] <melodie> ordicasse: I believe I am seeing a miracle being happening with you hard drive  ;)
[03:18] <afief> trappist: i meant something like a System Resore point... if i scew up with my graphic driver
[03:18] <eeeeeeee> bye as you cant take a time for me
[03:19] <trappist> afief: fglrxconfig will overwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf - feel free to copy that to your home directory before you run it, so you can restore it if you screw it up
[03:19] <Imagine> :|
[03:19] <unimatrix9> afief, thats why its alway's nice to have an knoppix , or other linux live cd!
[03:19] <ordicasse> melodie, ompaul: i'll be back in about 5 min to tell you about the result...
[03:19] <ompaul> I was going to tell eeeeeeee that some of us might take a look when we had a moment but that is a mute point now :)
[03:19] <ompaul> or moot even
[03:19] <melodie> I'm staying tuned  :))
[03:19] <sophtpaw> can someone tell me what the command is for executing?
[03:19] <ompaul> melodie, your not the only one
[03:19] <melodie> :)
[03:19] <trappist> sophtpaw: ./filename
[03:19] <afief> unimatrix: got 5.10 live CD:) thanks
[03:20] <sophtpaw> trappist: thank you
[03:20] <ompaul> trappist, was it not as lewis carroll's  queen of hearts said "off with his head"
[03:20] <laforge> papa: still the same prob ?
[03:20] <trappist> ompaul: heh
[03:21] <unimatrix9> any news on the new free mp3 codec for gstreamer?
[03:21] <afief> Whenever i try to change my wireless mode to master i get an error
[03:21] <unimatrix9> will it come to ubuntu?
[03:21] <trappist> ooh, I have filename completion in irssi.  where'd that come from?
[03:21] <laforge> papaStrumpf: ping
[03:21] <melodie> ompaul : you can inverse the brackets containing the option letters in that way ? was -by the same as -yb or another option ?
[03:21] <trappist> !tell unimatrix9 about mp3
[03:21] <s1gnAl> ok, can someone here convince me that I should use ubuntu instead of gentoo? I am getting really frustrated with dealing with it, is it customizable like gentoo?
[03:21] <laforge> anyone who has a idea why the audiostreams seems to be down ?
[03:21] <unimatrix9> yes tell me :)
[03:22] <Imagine> hi
[03:22] <trappist> s1gnAl: every linux distro is equally customizable.  which is to say infinitely customizable.
[03:22] <y_o_u> anyone here had any experience with Broadcom chipsets in wireless PCI cards?
[03:22] <ompaul> melodie, I have found that something like that is usually caused by power outage or hitting the power switch instead of waiting for the box to shut down
[03:22] <s1gnAl> I think I have had it with gentoo, I keep getting broken ebuilds and it is really pissing me off
[03:22] <trappist> y_o_u: yes, but broadcom makes lots of chipsets.
[03:22] <_Lestat_> anyone have any idea why i cannot ping outside of my computer with a wireless dongle?? argle
[03:22] <sophtpaw> sorry, how do i open a tar.gz file?
[03:23] <ompaul> melodie, it appears that -b must be replaced by -yb not -by
[03:23] <unimatrix9> do an dmesg, see if the broadcom shows up?...
[03:23] <trappist> s1gnAl: well ubuntu doesn't want to build everything from scratch, so if things aren't going to work out it'll be less than a week before you know :)
[03:23] <s1gnAl> gunzip tar file, tar -xvf to untar it
[03:23] <Malachi> sophtpaw: tar -zxvf <name of tar file>
[03:23] <Imagine> I have a problem with my ubuntu installation
[03:23] <Malachi> Or that.
[03:23] <sophtpaw> Malachi: thank you
[03:23] <holycow> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/052.html  <-- rofl!
[03:23] <holycow> -_-
[03:23] <Imagine> I need some help
[03:23] <ompaul> melodie, I imagine if you look in the source it checks first for the -y and passes it to all other options so it does not work the other way
[03:24] <s1gnAl> trappist: can I set up my partitions manually when I install it? or does the installer take care of that?
[03:24] <ompaul> !ask
[03:24] <Imagine> I have searched for the solution in several forums
[03:24] <y_o_u> trappist: still trying to get my Belkin 7000 PCI card to work. Read a bunch on the wiki's, just having a tough time getting a link light on
[03:24] <ompaul> !tell Imagine about ask
[03:24] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Of course, you might have to add sudo to that (sudo tar -zxvf <name of tar file>
[03:24] <trappist> s1gnAl: it gives you the option of manual or automatic partitioning
[03:24] <ivan2> hi!
[03:24] <Imagine> but i didn't find anything
[03:24] <ompaul> Imagine, please read the bots message
[03:24] <y_o_u> Belkin *wireless* PCI card
[03:24] <sophtpaw> Malachi: no, looks fine
[03:24] <afief> What's the mouseport for a touchpad?:S:S:S
[03:24] <trappist> youngcoder: the one card I have with a broadcom chip (not a belkin) worked out of the box with the madwifi drivers
[03:25] <laforge> someone who has a url from a 22c3-livestream ?
[03:25] <s1gnAl> y_o_u: I had trouble with a wireless PCMCIA card on another distro, I ended up using an NDIS wrapper I believe, can't remember for sure, but I believe that was correct and it worked
[03:26] <melodie> ompaul : what you say is most interesting. My own machines are protected with a small eletric device, but not from the brutal interruptions
[03:26] <melodie> and all these electronic components, in the hdd as well, don't like that at all
[03:26] <ompaul> melodie, well over the years you get to work no some funny things :)
[03:27] <ompaul> s/no/with
[03:27] <trappist> melodie: hard drives and filesystems hate sudden interruptions in power
[03:27] <ubuntu> ubuntu is kinda cool :)
[03:27] <unimatrix9> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13078
[03:27] <unimatrix9> new free mp3 codec
[03:27] <Malachi> ubuntu: "kinda"?
[03:27] <trappist> I doubt it
[03:27] <unimatrix9> would it not be nice for ubuntu?
[03:27] <melodie> ompaul: I've learned plenty over the years, but start on computers since a little more than one year only
[03:27] <unimatrix9> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=13078
[03:27] <melodie> :)
[03:27] <y_o_u> s1gnAl: i have installed the wrapper, and its wierd, when i check to see if the instalation of the driver was a success, it says "installed ndis drivers:  bcmwl5 driver present". apparently it is also supposed to say hardware present as well.
[03:27] <ubuntu> Malachi, just had my first minute on the livecd
[03:27] <melodie> trappist: you're right too
[03:28] <robsta> hi, is there a channel for launchpad?
[03:28] <Zambba> yes
[03:28] <Malachi> ubuntu: Ah. Well, it takes a lot to set it up, but once it's set up, it's awesome.
[03:28] <Zambba> #launchpad
[03:28] <greenpenguin13> its got one person on
[03:28] <greenpenguin13> me
[03:28] <Malachi> ubuntu: Of course, it's the only distro I've used....
[03:28] <trappist> Malachi: a lot to set up?!  have you ever seen gentoo?
[03:28] <ubuntu> Malachi, not as much as gentoo i notice :) at least my ethernet card is reckognized!
[03:29] <Imagine> ok, I'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error
[03:29] <melodie> Zambba, what's the aim of the lounchpad chan ? not to report bugs ?
[03:29] <unimatrix9> and what about an fruityloops clone for ubuntu? lmms!
[03:29] <jensp> hi, what package contains alsaconf? I have alsa-utils and alsa-base installed but the programm doesn't seem to exist
[03:29] <Malachi> ubuntu: I've never dealt with gentoo...
[03:29] <Malachi> ubuntu: Heard alot about it though.
[03:29] <Zambba> melodie: I don't know, I just looked is there a #launchpad channel
[03:29] <Imagine> something like this
[03:29] <Mabus06> how do you give sudo privileges to a user?
[03:29] <Zambba> :$
[03:29] <trappist> jensp: no package contains alsaconf.  lame, isn't it?
[03:29] <Imagine> oos
[03:29] <Imagine> oops
[03:30] <Imagine> * /dev/hde5 not found
[03:30] <unimatrix9> http://lmms.sourceforge.net/
[03:30] <Imagine> * /bin/sh: can't run tty job control disabled
[03:30] <jensp> hmmm crap, well thanks trappist
[03:30] <melodie> Mabus06 : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation
[03:30] <trappist> jensp: I think I'm gonna file a bug report on that
[03:30] <ompaul> melodie, do you think that ordicasse forgot us? given he had has a live cd to boot and come here on ?
[03:30] <melodie> Mabus06, ;)
[03:30] <melodie> ompaul, don't know  :)
[03:31] <karlan> In available Updates, i get the "Linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 even thou i just installed the 586. Do i have to install the 386 also? if not, how can i remove this from the update? disturbing to have a notice about an update all the time :)
[03:31] <melodie> maybe emotion who knows ?
[03:31] <trappist> karlan: if you uninstall the 386 package it won't try to update
[03:31] <ompaul> melodie, that is stranger than I wanted to think about right now
[03:31] <unimatrix9> ah, apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad, would that not be an better answer? Trappist?
[03:32] <y_o_u> i am having some trouble installing a Belkin wireless PCI card on kubuntu useing ndiswrapper, anyone had any similar problems?
[03:32] <melodie> ompaul, what do you mean ?
[03:32] <unimatrix9> instead of the 'bot"
[03:32] <trappist> unimatrix9: a better answer than what
[03:32] <ompaul> melodie, lets not explore that stream of thinking
[03:33] <trappist> unimatrix9: pointing you to excellent documentation is the best possible answer.  spoonfeeding you answers that are not too hard to find on your own... not interested.
[03:33] <melodie> ompaul, I don't understand a bit what you're talking about :)
[03:33] <unimatrix9> hmm, gues you did not send me to the irc bot
[03:33] <unimatrix9> sorry
[03:33] <trappist> unimatrix9: I had the bot show you the location of the answer
[03:33] <ompaul> melodie, emotion and working/broken drives and my bad mind
[03:34] <unimatrix9> never mind...
[03:34] <melodie> ompaul do you know about a software that do nothing, for everybody ?  :)
[03:34] <ompaul> melodie, irc
[03:35] <it4ngo> Melodie, xeyes does nothing
[03:35] <unimatrix9> software that do nothing? windows?
[03:35] <ompaul> it4ngo, it is a serious mouse following item
[03:35] <unimatrix9> :P
[03:35] <melodie> it4ngo, sometimes useful to have fun :)
[03:35] <FL|Maarty> hi, is here anyone who could help me with keyboard problem during instalation of ububtu 5.10 ?
[03:35] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i opened the tar.gz but don't know which one to execute. And how ? is it ./filename? that hasn't worked with any of the ones i'v e tried
[03:36] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Buh?
[03:36] <melodie> ompaul, it4ngo : http://bernardbelanger.com/computing/NaDa/index.php
[03:36] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Explain your problem. I didn't get it.
[03:36] <ompaul> Imagine, did you install the "server" version and then install the desktop?
[03:36] <trappist> sophtpaw: there's probably not much in there to execute.  tarballs traditionally contain source code that must be compiled into executable code.
[03:36] <Imagine> hum
[03:36] <Imagine> no
[03:36] <Malachi> Have you tried ./configure?
[03:36] <Imagine> I chose default instalation
[03:37] <unimatrix9> well thanx for the help again...
[03:37] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i've opened the tar.gz like you said. Now i don't know how to proceed. i tried ./ filename but i'm getting constant errors back
[03:37] <unimatrix9> bye bye, happy tuxing!
[03:37] <FL|Maarty> ompaul: desktop version, after boot I can not use keybouard, have tried another with same result
[03:37] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Have you tried ./configure? If you're trying to install something, ./configure is usually what you do.
[03:37] <qwerty> how do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu
[03:37] <melodie> about 'Nada' I already had a few moments of fun reading on the site, and open the small links in it :))
[03:37] <Malachi> sophtpaw: try './configure' , then 'make', then
[03:38] <trappist> !tell qwerty about fixres
[03:38] <Malachi> 'make install'
[03:38] <karlan> trappist, uninstall throu Synaptics ?
[03:39] <trappist> karlan: that's one way to do it... depending on what you're uninstalling and how you installed it
[03:39] <Imagine> ompaul: no, i chose defalt installation
[03:39] <qwerty> trappist: what about fixres
[03:39] <mikelo> how do i write stout into a file?
[03:39] <trappist> qwerty: the bot told you where to find information on changing your resolution
[03:40] <trappist> mikelo: command > filename
[03:40] <qwerty> no it didnt?
[03:40] <ompaul> FL|Maarty,  the server install (when the machine pauses in the install routine) type in server when it reboots log in and install a desktop with the following command >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<
[03:40] <melodie> coming back later
[03:40] <mikelo> ok thankx
[03:40] <ompaul> melodie, cheers
[03:40] <trappist> qwerty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <mikelo> does the file need to exist already?
[03:40] <trappist> mikelo: no
[03:40] <melodie> cheers
[03:40] <qwerty> wat?
[03:41] <existance> i'm trying to reinstall grub but when i run /sbin/grub-install /dev/hde it says it isn't a block device
[03:41] <y_o_u> anyone know if there is a channel for ubuntu and wireless problems?
[03:41] <mikelo> tnx trappist
[03:41] <trappist> y_o_u: #ubuntu
[03:41] <yatesy> laff
[03:41] <sophtpaw> Malachi: i tarred ies4linux-1.3.3.tar.gz
[03:41] <sophtpaw> . Now i have in blue ies4linux i've tried ./configure and 'make' but neither work
[03:42] <yookoal1> hello
[03:42] <Malachi> sophtpaw: So it's extracted?
[03:42] <FL|Maarty> ompaul: the problem is, taht i can not use keyboard, in that case i could be able to look in logs...:]
[03:43] <trappist> sorush20: you have to 'cd ies4linux'
[03:43] <y_o_u> i am having issues getting ndiswrapper to play nice with my Belkin 7000 wireless PCI card. have used wiki's with no success. help. please. anyone.
[03:43] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Now, cd that folder.
[03:43] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, i did tar -zxvf like you said and it appears extracted
[03:43] <sorush20> trappist: hi
[03:43] <qwerty> trappist, it said that xserver was not installed
[03:43] <sorush20> I've just woken up..
[03:43] <Malachi> sophtpaw: run ls to see what folder was created.
[03:43] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, did that i see in green ies4linux
[03:43] <trappist> qwerty: xserver-xorg
[03:44] <Malachi> sophtpaw: In green?
[03:44] <trappist> Malachi: with colored ls green means executable
[03:44] <Malachi> trappist: Right. Meaning it's not a folder.
[03:44] <trappist> which would be blue
[03:44] <sophtpaw> Malachi: yes, first in blue in /downloads next to the tar ball. Then when i ls ies4linux it is there in green along with a couple other folders
[03:44] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Okay, it's not a folder, so try 'ies4linux'
[03:45] <ordicasse> ompaul, melodie: it works!
[03:45] <trappist> ./ies4linux
[03:45] <ordicasse> ompaul, melodie: not completely, but i have grub back
[03:45] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Yeah, what trappist said.
[03:45] <sorush20> trappist: you talking to me?
[03:45] <trappist> sorush20: no.  did you have a question?
[03:46] <yookoal1> I have an annoying problem with sound recording
[03:46] <dave> hello
[03:46] <sorush20> trappist: just problems with my ati card 3d acceleration..
[03:46] <dave> can anyone help with a partition query?
[03:46] <trappist> sorush20: have you asked those questions?
[03:46] <redguy|work> !ask
[03:46] <yookoal1> I cannot record any sound with gnome's recording program
[03:46] <redguy|work> darn
[03:47] <redguy|work> dave don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:47] <sophtpaw> trappist: thank you, i'm in business
[03:47] <sophtpaw> Malachi: thank you. It's getting there now. :)
[03:48] <trappist> sophtpaw: in the future, try to ask clearer and more specific questions.  this began with "what's the command to execute" when it should have been more like "I downloaded a tarball of ies4linux.  what now?" or something.
[03:48] <Malachi> sophtpaw: Mhmm...sorry, wasn't really concentrating (trying to fix Samba). Sorry if I confused you.
[03:48] <redguy|work> why won't ubotu talk in the channel? too much bot abuse?
[03:48] <yookoal1> I've configured sound with the "Volume control" program. I can hear my voice from earphone now
[03:48] <dave> OK i have just installed a 160Gig storage drive and i want to have accessible to a Windows XP system on the network, but i was thinking of using ext3 or reiser filesystem
[03:48] <dave> i dont want the XP to write to the disk
[03:48] <trappist> dave: if it's over the network, the filesystem doesn't matter
[03:48] <yookoal1>  but still nothing is captured in the sound recording program
[03:48] <yookoal1> what's worng?
[03:49] <yookoal1> hello?
[03:49] <dave> ok
[03:49] <qwerty> trappist it didnt do anything to my resolution
[03:49] <melodie> ordicasse: that's very good! what does not work totally yet ?
[03:49] <eps> what is the gnome burning app that is standard in 5.10?
[03:49] <sophtpaw> trappist: sorry, you are right i could have been clearer. It was the combination of your advice and Malachi's help that did it. Agues, i thought i had the tar ball thing sussed when i didn't quite
[03:49] <redguy|work> yookoal1: don't know how to help you, sorry
[03:49] <trappist> qwerty: it should have taken you through a wizard, which should have allowed you to select your preferred resolution.
[03:49] <Imagine> well
[03:49] <dave> so if i use reiserfs i should not have any defrag problems
[03:49] <Imagine> ompaul left
[03:49] <Mabus06> how do I make a superuser
[03:49] <Imagine> can anyone else give me some help
[03:49] <yookoal1> redguywork, don't say that. thanks for answering
[03:50] <dave> and will be able to store files and share them on the ntwork
[03:50] <eps> Mabus06 what for?
[03:50] <Imagine> ?
[03:50] <melodie> ordicasse, can you plug your usb hdd to do the backup now ?
[03:50] <trappist> dave: if you use any linux-native filesystem you should not have fragmentation problems
[03:50] <redguy|work> Mabus06: what for?
[03:50] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: you can give someone sudo access
[03:50] <trappist> dave: yes, true for any filesystem in the list
[03:50] <dave> thats why i want to use reiserfs not fat32
[03:50] <qwerty> yes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,600
[03:50] <ordicasse> melodie: ubuntu runs, but not the graphical interface, there are some errors, but at least i can see my datas, and mount it now with the live cd
[03:50] <Imagine> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my amd athlom xp 2700+,1024mb ram, 120gb hitachi IDE and I always get the same error: after the first installation fase is over, the computer reboots, I choose ubuntu boot in grub, but after a while the boot stalls with the error
[03:50] <sophtpaw> Mabus06: sudo -s
[03:50] <yookoal1> does anyone here knows about sound configuration here ?
[03:50] <uber_spaced> does anybody know what the best way to get MySQL 5 on ubuntu is?
[03:50] <Mabus06> why do you guys say what for?
[03:50] <mikelo> trappist, the script i have is in perl and writes to stdout but it gives me an error
[03:50] <ordicasse> melodie: yes i can!! :)
[03:50] <yookoal1> hello ?
[03:50] <Mabus06> to do things like.. open synaptic..
[03:50] <Imagine> * dev/hde5 not found
[03:50] <uber_spaced> i could compile it from source, but I was wondering if there is a 'Ubuntu' way of doing it...
[03:51] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: you do that through sudo
[03:51] <Mabus06> I don't have a sudo account
[03:51] <melodie> ordicasse, ok then do that first  :)
[03:51] <trappist> dave: the network (in this case samba) makes all the filesystem stuff pretty irrelevant.  the files themselves will go over the network, and only samba will have to talk to the filesystem itself.
[03:51] <Imagine> * /bin/sh: can't run tty: job control disabled
[03:51] <eps> uber_spaced aptitude install mysql ?
[03:51] <sophtpaw> Mabus06: to open synaptic you just need your password
[03:51] <dave> ok thats great
[03:51] <trappist> mikelo: errors go to stderr, of course
[03:51] <Mabus06> I dont have a sudo account... I want to create one
[03:51] <qwerty>  trappist: yes, it did, but i selected my prefered resolution which is like 1028, 756 and it acts like it is still 800,600
[03:51] <redguy|work> Mabus06: you can't use sudo? is your user in the admin group?
[03:51] <melodie> Mabus06 : are you the one who installed the distribution ?
[03:51] <trappist> qwerty: have you restarted X?
[03:51] <uber_spaced> eps, mysql 5 came out and supports stored procedures and triggers and the such, currently, my apt only shows version 4.x
[03:52] <qwerty> hold on a sec
[03:52] <dave> my next question is do you know the relevent change i should make to fstab to make it all come up at boot?
[03:52] <trappist> uber_spaced: 5 is not available in breezy
[03:52] <Mabus06> My user is not in the admin group, or anything, I forgot how to do that. Can someone tell me where that file is please?
[03:52] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: but you need sudo access to get sudo access :/
[03:52] <uber_spaced> trappist, so I guess I need to compile from source.
[03:52] <trappist> dave: not until I know the device and the filesystem
[03:52] <Mabus06> No, I can do it as root, greenpenguin13
[03:52] <dave> for example i used /dev/hdb1	/Storage	vfat umask=000 0 0 for the fat 32
[03:52] <melodie> ordicasse: at same time, if you can connect the net from the terminal, why not try an update ?
[03:52] <trappist> uber_spaced: unless somebody's made a backports package or something, yeah
[03:52] <Mabus06> I know what I'm doing I just don't know where the file is.
[03:52] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: oh...
[03:53] <dave> so i have the Storage set ans visible in ubuntu
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: boot in the rescue mode and do 'adduser the_user admin'
[03:53] <melodie> then you reinstall gdm, and see what happens, for example ?
[03:53] <trappist> Mabus06: /etc/group
[03:53] <madphilosopher> #lugradio
[03:53] <Mabus06> rescue mode? I ddi this before, it wasn't hard.
[03:53] <Mabus06> oh, thanks trappist
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: oh, so you have root enabled
[03:53] <eps> uber_spaced ah okay...mmm welcome to the only down side of package management...the repo's take time to roll over to new versions
[03:53] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: userconfig as root
[03:53] <redguy|work> Mabus06: you can do the same as root
[03:53] <bshumate> uber_spaced: compile mysql5 from source (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MYSQL5FromSource)
[03:53] <uber_spaced> bshumate, thanks!
[03:54] <greenpenguin13> Mabus06: users-admin
[03:54] <trappist> eps: that's not a downside.  distros (except gentoo) tend not to release the all the newest, shiniest software into stable versions of the distro, because that would make it unstable.
[03:54] <ordicasse> melodie: what is the command to make an update ?
[03:54] <eps> trappist thanks for the useless information :)
[03:54] <ordicasse> melodie: using aptitude ?
[03:54] <trappist> eps: wtf.
[03:55] <eps> trappist I was commenting to uber_spaced noting that there is a delay in package updates to versions
[03:55] <melodie> ordicasse: you can copy from /dev/hda3 /dev/your-usb-device
[03:55] <redguy|work> dave: change vfat to appropriate fs name and umask=000 to defaults and it should work
[03:55] <Mabus06> ok I'm in users-admin, but what do I do to make user 'nick' have sudo
[03:55] <trappist> Mabus06: sudo visudo
[03:55] <concept10> anyone been on digg in the last 10 mins?
[03:55] <dave> thanks redguy
[03:56] <redguy|work> Mabus06: put him in the admin group, sheesh
[03:56] <Mabus06> trappist visudo... that was it
[03:56] <dave> how do i get the red repolies?
[03:56] <melodie> or you could do other ways, with dd I suppose.... 'dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/your-usb-device'
[03:56] <eps> trappist also that isn't correct anyway, many distros release 'up to the minute' packages - gentoo even trials behind ubuntu in some areas. it is up to the package maintainers.  but I'm sure that is useless info to you as well?
[03:56] <ordicasse> melodie: i get many operation not permitted when using the command "sudo cp -R lin/ /media/LACIE/backup/"
[03:57] <melodie> ordicasse, see with the others what they say ? I've got few experience
[03:57] <eps> concept10 don't see a great need to follow digg, other places pick up stories and have worthwhile comments on them anyway
[03:57] <redguy|work> eps: if you want to be up-to-the-minute run dapper
[03:57] <ordicasse> melodie: all look like : cp: cannot create symbolic link `/media/LACIE/backup/lin/etc/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver': Operation not permitted
[03:57] <gnomefreak> is anyone else running dapper in here?
[03:58] <melodie> ordicasse can you tar all the files from within the distribution ? with the command line ? do you know to do that ?
[03:58] <trappist> eps: I'm not gonna argue about why we don't have firefox1.5, why kde3.5 is in a completely separate repository, why there exists a backports repository, etc.  you're just being an asshole.
[03:58] <eps> redguy|work look, did I say I was? I run debian sid and that is as 'up to the minute' as I want to be.  now can people stop adding useless information? helping people in here is so complicated
[03:58] <melodie> if yes, then you could do  a .tar.bz2 archive
[03:58] <Mabus06> how do I make a second desktop with my ATI Radeon X700 pro using s-video?
[03:58] <Seveas> trappist, please watch your language...
[03:58] <ordicasse> melodie: the file would be too big
[03:58] <concept10> eps, I dont like digg that much myself, I just wondered if anyone else besides me noticed the spamming that has just taken place
[03:58] <trappist> Seveas: will do.
[03:58] <eps> trappist lay off please
[03:58] <eddye> hy
[03:58] <redguy|work> eps: it's not the useless information that makes helping people difficult. useless discussions are.
[03:59] <melodie> ordicasse, I't would keep all the permissions the same, and you can restore easily after
[03:59] <trappist> <3 redguy|work
[03:59] <eps> redguy|work yes trappist got on some side track when I was helping another user
[03:59] <melodie> ordicasse, then do several files, a bz2 compresses about 25 to 30 % I think
[03:59] <eddye> how can i get a xorg.conf?
[03:59] <eps> I've noticed this channel has a big problem with that
[03:59] <eddye> i messed my
[03:59] <eps> eddye default or ubuntu one?
[03:59] <ordicasse> melodie: okay, then i should only tar home, var, boot ?
[04:00] <eddye> default
[04:00] <pl_ice> hey nalioth :)
[04:00] <Seveas> eddye, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <thefish> where can I get lame for 5.10?
[04:00] <eddye> Seveas,
[04:00] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[04:00] <eddye> i tryed that
[04:00] <Seveas> thefish, gstreamer-lame, liblame?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> gm nalioth
[04:00] <ordicasse> melodie: do you know how to see the size of those directories, to evalate the size of the tar.bz file ?
[04:00] <Seveas> hi nalioth
[04:00] <melodie> ordicasse, I start usually with the personal documents
[04:00] <thefish> Seveas: those didnt show up in apt-cache search lame :/
[04:00] <pl_ice> u guys don't sleep or somethin' ... ?
[04:00] <thefish> thanks, will thry those
[04:00] <Seveas> pl_ice, no
[04:01] <Seveas> thefish, enabe universe & multiverse
[04:01] <eddye> eps, how can i get the ubuntu if i cant the default
[04:01] <raphink> pl_ice: ?
[04:01] <Seveas> eddye, you tried that and what?
[04:01] <ubuntu_> how to know the size in Ko of a directory ?
[04:01] <pl_ice> raphink ? ... hm?
[04:01] <oveh> will this work if i want to mount a iso file? sudo mount -o loop cdimage.iso /mnt/cdrom
[04:01] <Seveas> ubuntu_, man du
[04:01] <uber_spaced> ubuntu_, du -h
[04:01] <raphink> pl_ice: what do you mean we don't sleep?
[04:01] <Seveas> oveh, yes
[04:02] <eddye> Seveas,
[04:02] <redguy|work> oveh: AFAIK it should work
[04:02] <eddye> ERRORS :)
[04:02] <pl_ice> raphink couse heaps of people, and it's late over here ;)
[04:02] <melodie> ordicasse, one thing at a time:
[04:02] <Seveas> eddye, *sigh* which errors? (pastebin them)
[04:02] <oveh> oki, testing it out :-)
[04:02] <bur[n] er> anyone else use quodlibet and find it the greatest music player for gnome?
[04:02] <raphink> pl_ice: have you heard about other countries ?
[04:02] <bur[n] er> :)
[04:02] <pl_ice> oveh try, it will say error :/ but i think u have to put -o loop at the end
[04:02] <raphink> pl_ice: and about how its not the same time everywhere on earth at a given time ?
[04:02] <melodie> ordicasse, after my personal documents I do the configuration folders which are in the /home/user
[04:02] <oveh> pl_ice: oki, thanx for the tip
[04:02] <eddye> Seveas, i am on Live cd because i cant log on the Installed ubuntu
[04:02] <eddye> :(
[04:03] <Seveas> eddye, why not?
[04:03] <pl_ice> raphink , cool out, it's a joke
[04:03] <raphink> ;)
[04:03] <pl_ice> my time zone is 8+
[04:03] <Seveas> pl_ice, raphink didn't sleep in a very long time so his sense of humour is low ;)
[04:03] <melodie> sometimes I put apart the ~/.thunderbird/profile user folder
[04:03] <pl_ice> heeeh
[04:04] <raphink> Seveas: haha
[04:04] <pl_ice> btw anyone uses xmms with itouch plugin? can't find answer for that one ...
[04:04] <raphink> :)
[04:04] <qwerty> is there anything you guys think i should really get from
[04:04] <melodie> about /var just the /var/cache/apt/archives can be a good idea, but if you have a good large band, not useful saving
[04:04] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/Screenshot.png  <--quodlibet with cover art :)
[04:04] <eddye> i messed my xorg and then when i try the code: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start it says an error and it says to rebot my pc
[04:04] <eddye> but i rebotet and nothing worked
[04:04] <qwerty> synaptic package manager
[04:04] <pl_ice> eddye, want mine ?
[04:04] <pl_ice> for ati
[04:04] <bur[n] er> eddye: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ??
[04:04] <Seveas> eddye, reboot, try to start X, pastebin the Xorg.0.log
[04:05] <eddye> pl_ice,
[04:05] <eddye> no
[04:05] <eddye> :)
[04:05] <pl_ice> :)
[04:05] <bur[n] er> eddye: if your'e on a livecd, you could copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from there that works
[04:05] <melodie> ordicasse, ok work well, see y'a later
[04:05] <eddye> have on this live cd one
[04:05] <eddye> bur[n] er,
[04:05] <pl_ice> bye melodie
[04:05] <eddye> that is the problem
[04:05] <eddye> :)
[04:05] <ubuntu_> "du -h mydirectory" gives the size of all subdirectories, i only need the size of "mydirectory"
[04:06] <bur[n] er> eddye: the livecd won't work?
[04:06] <pl_ice> du -h then the path for it
[04:06] <ordicasse> thanks for all melodie
[04:06] <uber_spaced> when I started to configure MySQL, it gave me this error: No curses/termcap library found.  I did an apt-cache search on curses and got a lot of hits.  which one should I install? (ncurses?)
[04:06] <thefish> Seveas: thanks, it was in multiverse
[04:06] <eddye> yes it works but my live cd is version 5.4
[04:06] <eddye> and i have installed 5.10
[04:06] <eddye> i am afraid i will get errors
[04:06] <eddye> :)
[04:06] <bur[n] er> eddye: i'd still say to try and do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <eddye> ok ill try
[04:07] <bur[n] er> but pasting the error to pastebin will be the most effective as seveas suggests
[04:07] <eddye> or ill have to reinstall ubuntu :(
[04:07] <bur[n] er> u can use irssi to come back here
[04:07] <bur[n] er> u wont' have to reinstall
[04:07] <bur[n] er> that's silly ;)
[04:07] <yookoal1> is there any good example / tutorial in seting up mic in ubuntu?
[04:07] <Malachi> Is there a way that you can print to a virtual printer? Like print to a PDF file.
[04:07] <eddye> bur[n] er,
[04:07] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: plug it in!
[04:07] <eddye> ill be back :)
[04:07] <bur[n] er> Malachi: I know how in kde, if you find out in gnome, let me know
[04:07] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, but it does not work ...
[04:08] <pl_ice> hey, i got a funny joke (no ban pls) if bill gates got laid in high school there won't be microsfot :D
[04:08] <eddye> bye all
[04:08] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: turn up the mic volume?  is it muted?  how are you testing?
[04:08] <pl_ice> bye
[04:08] <qwerty> im getting konsole now :)
[04:08] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, it does not work with "gnome redorder" actually. I tested everything in "Volume control"
[04:08] <qwerty> is there a way i can boot to kde to try it out, right now im on gnome
[04:08] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with developing gdesklets?
[04:09] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: u can play back audio right?  just mic doesn't work?
[04:09] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, it can play audio
[04:09] <Malachi> bur[n] er: How did you on KDE?
[04:09] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: Malachi it just showed up as pdf printer in my list
[04:09] <Malachi> Hmm.
[04:10] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i think it's part of kdeprint
[04:10] <albacker> guys, i recompiled my kernel and after rebooting i got a lot of errors, but i could enter the new kernel. How can i stop the errors from comming out.. There were some things i dont want to be loaded on startup  this is the kernel log : http://pastebin.com/482893
[04:11] <cratel1> I have a Promise SATA controller connect to a HD that Breezy doesn't appear to find. How do I install this?
[04:11] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, I can hear my from the mic through the headphone. But recorder connot record my voice
[04:12] <albacker> can someone help me please ?
[04:12] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Is printing to file just as good?
[04:13] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: awww... so configure recorder to use the right input device
[04:13] <mason0020> hi, I want to use Boost C++ library in ubuntu. Does it come along with ubuntu, or do I have to seperately install it
[04:13] <pl_ice> albacker u got alsa problem, then other ones
[04:14] <albacker> pl_ice, even tho theres an alsa error i can use alsa output.. any idea ?
[04:14] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: i lied, you can't... use audacity? :)
[04:14] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, how to cofigure the input device for that?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> is there a reason why the kernel and the restricted modules are being kept back in dapper searched bugzilla and didnt find anything?
[04:14] <pl_ice> albacker and ur bus speed is 33 mhz assuming? for ide? not sure ...about that
[04:14] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i guess, I like .pdfs
[04:14] <Malachi> bur[n] er: So do I....
[04:14] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: maybe there's an option in gconf-editor, but i don't see it in the UI
[04:15] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, not tried audacity yet. but skype does not work either
[04:15] <bur[n] er> yookoal1: no?  skype works for me
[04:15] <albacker> pl_ice, any idea on how to resolve those problems ?
[04:15] <bur[n] er> skype even let me choose between my sound cards to use the one with the mic
[04:16] <pl_ice> albacker it said that didn't found ur s.card :)
[04:17] <albacker> pl_ice what to do ? any idea ?
[04:17] <pl_ice> albacker http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=218599  read that ..
[04:18] <cratel1> how do I create a partitition and format a new added (not boot) drive?
[04:18] <pl_ice> maybe u didn't get ur s.card 'ticked' in config ?
[04:18] <christianp> hi all
[04:18] <uber_spaced> yayyy! MySQL is compiling (the correct package was libncurses5-dev)
[04:18] <yookoal1> bur[n] er, show to configure /dev/dsp (the standard sound device of skype)
[04:19] <albacker> pl_ice, dont know ! :S
[04:19] <pl_ice> cratel1 fdisk /dev/drive then add a partition to it, then u have to create file system on it
[04:19] <pl_ice> albacker well, that's the beuaty of compiling ur egg :)
[04:20] <albacker> pl_ice, i configured so much stuff that i dont know what i ticked and unticked.. i know i ticked some alsa and oss stuff.
[04:20] <cratel1> pl_ice: okay. I was just trying gpart-ed. It is asking about a disk label and wants to call it...msdos???
[04:21] <afief> Is something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S
[04:21] <pl_ice> cratel1 u mean u went fo fdisk press new, create partions, then add a partition type?
[04:21] <pl_ice> albacker g luck :)
[04:22] <albacker> pl_ice, you think i have to recompile the kernel and this time carefully ?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> cratel1: msdos is ok
[04:22] <redguy|work> pl_ice: maybe you mean cfdisk?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> cratel1: gparted is great :)
[04:22] <Malachi> Argh, my sound is choppy. It's always been choppy.
[04:22] <Malachi> Any ideas how to fix it?
[04:22] <pl_ice> redguy|work yeh ... , bit late here ... :)
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: using gstreamer?
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: what app?
[04:23] <Malachi> System sounds are alright, just sound from video and mp3s are messed up.
[04:23] <cratel1> pl_ice: I chose the <NEW> icon after I selected "Unallocated" for the partition...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:23] <jtibau> can anyone help me set up a proxy server in breezy????
[04:23] <Malachi> bur[n] er Well, I using Google Video
[04:23] <pl_ice> albacker , the last errors are something with raid, have a look there ...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> Malachi: awwwwwwwww... that's flash
[04:23] <cratel1> bur[n] er: do I want to consider any other type of disklabel or does it not matter or...
[04:23] <bur[n] er> cratel1: don't consider others ;)
[04:24] <albacker> pl_ice, there ? where ?
[04:24] <Malachi> Totem never starts up.
[04:24] <pl_ice> device mapper
[04:24] <uber_spaced> yeah, totem seems borkinated.
[04:24] <bur[n] er> Malachi: that's just trouble
[04:25] <bur[n] er> totem works fine here
[04:25] <uber_spaced> how do I completely remove totem from my system?
[04:25] <bur[n] er> totem plays my divx, xvid, rm, mov, dvd, etc.
[04:25] <s1gnAl> is there a good resource to learn about LVM in ubuntu? I don't know anything about it
[04:25] <bur[n] er> sudo apt-get remove --purge totem*
[04:25] <eddye> hey
[04:25] <cratel1> bur[n] er: okay. The "magic" is happening....
[04:25] <eddye> im back
[04:25] <bur[n] er> however, totem is part of ubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <uber_spaced> shweet. thanks.
[04:25] <eddye> bur[n] er:
[04:25] <eddye> it isnt working
[04:25] <bur[n] er> cratel1: nice ;)
[04:25] <redguy|work> s1gnAl: there's a very nice howto at IBM's developerworks
[04:25] <bur[n] er> eddye: got an error to paste?
[04:26] <bur[n] er> eddye: something about no screens found?
[04:26] <Malachi> bur[n] er: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[04:26] <bur[n] er> eddye: did you reconfigure and pick the right settings for your monitor
[04:26] <eddye> Segmentation Fault when i try to copy or paste or move
[04:26] <redguy|work> s1gnAl: there's a howto on www.tldp.org as well i think. google :-)
[04:26] <s1gnAl> thanks :)
[04:26] <bur[n] er> Malachi: nothing else is open right?  gnome-system-monitor show any crashed totem by chance?
[04:27] <eddye> bur[n] er: what is this error "Segmentation fault" ??
[04:27] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Could it be because I'm using VMWare?
[04:27] <thava> Hi
[04:27] <eddye> bur[n] er: you still here :) =?=
[04:27] <bur[n] er> Malachi: got me, i've never used vmware
[04:27] <bur[n] er> segmentation fault could be anything
[04:28] <paulproteus|lapt> eddye: It means the program crashed.
[04:28] <afief> Is something wrong with my updater? I still have OpenOffice 1.9.129:S:S
[04:28] <thava> anyone now how i can run photoshop
[04:28] <gnomefreak> afief, are you using breezy?
[04:28] <eddye> paulproteus|lapt:
[04:28] <eddye> how do i fix i?
[04:29] <eddye> it?
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: using breezy eh?
[04:29] <afief> yes
[04:29] <eddye> yes
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: did you fresh install breezy or upgrade to it?
[04:29] <afief> gnomefreak:yes
[04:29] <eddye> fresh install
[04:29] <gnomefreak> than no nothing is wrong if you want to have OOo2 use the open office repo found at source-o-matic
[04:29] <bur[n] er> eddye: what video card?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:30] <gnomefreak> theres the link
[04:30] <it4ngo> thava : try to use GIMP or GIMPSHOP
[04:30] <eddye> ati radeon 9200
[04:30] <eddye> no 9000
[04:30] <eddye> :)
[04:30] <bur[n] er> eddye: using fglrx?
[04:30] <eddye> im going nuts :)
[04:30] <eddye> yes
[04:30] <bur[n] er> try not using it? ;)
[04:30] <eddye> how can i do that?
[04:30] <bur[n] er> and just using hte "ati" or "radeon" driver
[04:30] <eddye> :)
[04:30] <libervisco> where is Ubuntu art channel?
[04:30] <s1gnAl> hmm, Im not seeing much about LVM, I am running one disk, would I benefit from this?
[04:30] <bur[n] er> eddye: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the "driver" line and change it to "ati" or "radeon"
[04:31] <nalioth> s1gnAl: you would not.
[04:31] <eddye> bur[n] er: ill be back in about 40minutes
[04:31] <bur[n] er> hehe, ok
[04:31] <bur[n] er> i might not be
[04:31] <bur[n] er> ;)
[04:31] <s1gnAl> so should I stick with normal partitions?
[04:31] <eddye> bur[n] er: i dont have no more xorg.conf
[04:31] <bur[n] er> eddye: good luck nonetheless
[04:31] <bur[n] er> eddye: that's yer problem then ;)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> i only know where gnome kde and xfce art is not sure where ubuntu art is :(
[04:31] <eddye> :)
[04:31] <eddye> bye
[04:31] <gnomefreak> !art
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[04:31] <eddye> quit
[04:31] <Malachi> bur[n] er: After installing totem-xine, Totem won't open.
[04:32] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Rythembox works fine, though.
[04:32] <Quench> err can someone help me, as i get into kubuntu, all is ok, but then as a open the menu at bottem, screen corrupts alittle and it freezes ?
[04:32] <bur[n] er> Malachi: totem gives an error?
[04:32] <pl_ice> anyone installed linux on ipod? ...
[04:32] <Malachi> Nope.
[04:32] <Malachi> Just closes
[04:32] <bur[n] er> Malachi: open it from a term
[04:32] <libervisco> thanks ubotu
[04:33] <Quench> anyone
[04:33] <Quench> ?
[04:33] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Nothing.
[04:33] <libervisco> ubotu, there's gonna be a meeting in that channel in about 7 hours or so...
[04:33] <ubotu> libervisco: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Quench: sorry
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Malachi: wtf ;)
[04:33] <Morrowyn> pl_ice, i was looking at that a sec ago, somehow i cant mount it
[04:33] <pl_ice> Malachi try totem-xine i heard that totem got problems, but my totem-xine still baaddd ...
[04:33] <skynetpro> hy
[04:33] <lleberg_> How do i find out hte actual package name of a known program?
[04:33] <Morrowyn> then i decided to use my ibook for it instead
[04:33] <bur[n] er> Malachi: u can go back to totem-gstreamer, but totem-xine usually plays smoother for me
[04:33] <lleberg_> VLC for example
[04:34] <bur[n] er> Malachi: at least until gstreamer0.10 is used by totem
[04:34] <libervisco> oh :D
[04:34] <libervisco> lol
[04:34] <Malachi> GOT IT.
[04:34] <pl_ice> Morrowyn , have u tried? bit scared ;) to do it
[04:34] <libervisco> ubotu is a bot :D
[04:34] <ubotu> libervisco: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:34] <Morrowyn> i got a bsod when i inserted my ipod into my windows box, was funny
[04:34] <bur[n] er> lleberg_: vlc is the package name
[04:34] <skynetpro> have anybody problem with GBTcr? GBTcr is a GNOME app uses bluetooth to communicate with the phone
[04:34] <ph8> lo all
[04:34] <Malachi> Had to kill one already running =)
[04:34] <skynetpro> make dosn't compile
[04:34] <lleberg_> bur[n] er, strange
[04:34] <bur[n] er> ipods are a virus themselves... crazy itunes and drm and non-usb mass storage crap if you ask me ;)
[04:34] <Morrowyn> well, cant be arsed to do research on it :)
[04:34] <Morrowyn> not atm
[04:34] <lleberg_> or maybe i haven't added universe or multiverse, installed yesterday :P
[04:34] <ATAQ1> Hey, I need to get a 64bit driver for my MSI 945P motherboard, does anybody know anything that I could do?
[04:34] <bur[n] er> lleberg_: i'm guessing that's it ;)
[04:34] <pl_ice> bur[n] er u're right :)
[04:35] <idefix_> is there a simple quick command in linux ubuntu for taking a picture with a webcam??
[04:35] <ph8> When my friend starts ubuntu he gets a nice little graphical screen where all the filesystem checks/network config/clock synchronisation that usually happens on startup appears (the usual about 20-30 lines of initiations) - on mine it's not graphical at all it's all just plain text, any ideas how to turn this feature on?
[04:35] <idefix_> !webcam
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:35] <pl_ice> Morrowyn yeh, bit lazy atm :) but i'm willing to try, show off at uni :)
[04:35] <Malachi> bur[n] er: It works, but it's still choppy.
[04:35] <Morrowyn> cool :)
[04:35] <Morrowyn> let me know if you managed it
[04:35] <pl_ice> yeh
[04:35] <bur[n] er> Malachi: yeah, gstreamer is choppy... can't believe totem-xine doesn't work :\
[04:36] <pl_ice> Morrowyn , will post pics on web :P
[04:36] <libervisco> found it, cya
[04:36] <[FeiM] Swoop|Away> ph8: thats the boot splash .. it's featured from breezy badger
[04:36] <Malachi> bur[n] er: I meant xine.
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: google vids will be choppy as they use flash
[04:36] <bur[n] er> oh?
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: what's the data source?
[04:36] <Malachi> bur[n] er: mp3.
[04:36] <Morrowyn> this is the error i got: given udi is not a mountable volume
[04:36] <[FeiM] Swoop|Away> ph8: you are using hoary release right ?
[04:36] <bur[n] er> Malachi: i'd say check your processor and ram usage... see if the whole machine is bogged down
[04:37] <bur[n] er> Malachi: mp3s shouldn't be a problem
[04:37] <bur[n] er> esp. if rhythmbox plays them
[04:37] <afief> Why isn't my OpenOffice updated? even though i run the updater everyday?
[04:37] <Quench> does anyone know why i cant boot ubuntu , when my cdrom is disconnected
[04:37] <Morrowyn> if you get the same error pl_ice let me know
[04:38] <Morrowyn> and how you fixed it ofc :)
[04:38] <bur[n] er> afief: OOo2 isn't going to be in breezy... add new sources for it
[04:38] <bur[n] er> !openoffice
[04:38] <ubotu> bur[n] er: No idea
[04:38] <idefix_> how do you add a line to your depot?
[04:38] <bur[n] er> hrm... well, i dont' know where the sources are, but they exist
[04:38] <bur[n] er> depot?
[04:38] <idefix_> Ajouter la ligne suivante dans les depots :
[04:38] <bur[n] er> idefix_: repository maybe?
[04:38] <pl_ice> Morrowyn when did u get that error? which part of procedure?
[04:39] <afief> bur[n] er: and what about the kernel 2.6.14?
[04:39] <idefix_> ok how do I add a line to my depository?
[04:39] <bur[n] er> afief: u'll have to wait for dapper
[04:39] <idefix_> eh repository
[04:39] <bur[n] er> idefix_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:39] <bur[n] er> idefix_: or edit via synaptic
[04:40] <afief> bur[n] er: okay i'm fine with that, but is there a list of what to expect from dapper drake?
[04:40] <idefix_> after you add the line you have to reboot?
[04:40] <ATAQ1> When you install 64-bit Ubuntu, are the generic drivers usually good enough, I mean the motherboard ones?
[04:40] <bur[n] er> afief: not really... u can search the wiki for a roadmap and all that jazz
[04:40] <Morrowyn> pl_ice, i got when i inserted the usb dongle into my machine and then in nautilus
[04:40] <afief> bur[n] er: then how do you know it's all gonna be in it?:s
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: or http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/newpkg_main to see new packages in dapper
[04:41] <Morrowyn> after a double click on "apple's ipod music thing"
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: packages.ubuntu.com tells me so
[04:41] <pl_ice> Morrowyn was that after u installed linux on ipod? or just ipod itself :P
[04:41] <idefix_> why is the sources.list not executable?
[04:41] <bur[n] er> afief: 2.6.15 is there rather
[04:41] <Morrowyn> just the ipod itself
[04:41] <mike-w> is it possible to make thunderbird launch instead of evolution when i click on an email address
[04:42] <afief> bur[n] er: huh? isn't that one still unstable?
[04:42] <idefix_> I'm trying to be inventive
[04:42] <Malachi> Is there a newer version of Open Office than the one that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:42] <Malachi> Because that one keeps crashing...
[04:42] <bur[n] er> afief: probably... you'll notice that it's not april and dapper isn't stable yet either :P
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: yes, there is...
[04:42] <pl_ice> Morrowyn v. strange, but remember, u have to format it first, i did it using xp :P and the apple shitty program (on linux much harder) then i use gnupod
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: there is a true 2.0 release
[04:42] <Pygi> Malachi: this is RC X
[04:42] <idefix_> how does this sources.list-file work?
[04:42] <Morrowyn> ok
[04:42] <bur[n] er> mike-w: system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[04:42] <idefix_> is it read and stored in memory when you startup your PC?
[04:43] <Malachi> Pygi: But it's not in the repositories?
[04:43] <idefix_> I'm a total linux-newby!
[04:43] <Morrowyn> i havent formatted it, i just inserted it into my ibook, started itunes
[04:43] <afief> bur[n] er: well:) 1st april is my birthday, so yes i noticed
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: nop
[04:43] <Morrowyn> and did my thing
[04:43] <idefix_> any help would be appreciated
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: it will be in Dapper, same as Firefox 1.5
[04:43] <Malachi> Dapper?
[04:43] <bobbyd> hi
[04:43] <Pygi> Malachi: next release of Ubuntu scheduled for April if I am not mistaken
[04:43] <bur[n] er> dapper is the next version of ubuntu... right now, we're on breezy
[04:44] <Malachi> Ah.
[04:44] <Pygi> Malachi: :)
[04:44] <pl_ice> Morrowyn u have to format it , somehow :) i think i used itunes and it asked me for a format, u might want to use emergency kit for reboot (program) to put OS on it
[04:44] <Malachi> So I have to get it manually...
[04:44] <Malachi> *sigh* Okay.
[04:44] <afief> What good games are there in the Repository?
[04:44] <Morrowyn> ok
[04:44] <Morrowyn> well i cant be arsed to do it, since i have a working ipod
[04:44] <bur[n] er> Malachi: check backports
[04:44] <Morrowyn> so im cool with it :)
[04:45] <bur[n] er> afief: crack-attack!!!!  breakout, frozen-bubble, tuxracer
[04:45] <_draken> wat is the password for root
[04:45] <_draken> when just installed ?
[04:45] <pl_ice> Morrowyn i burned hd on one of them, 2 wks old one :D
[04:46] <Malachi> bur[n] er: Mmm....nope.
[04:46] <uber_spaced> _draken, sudo passwd root
[04:46] <gnomefreak> _draken, your user password
[04:46] <uber_spaced> gnomefreak, no, it isnt.
[04:46] <Morrowyn> :)
[04:46] <gnomefreak> uber_spaced,  why not?
[04:46] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: because there is no root password... u have to use sudo
[04:47] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: try "su" and use your user password, it doesn't work :P
[04:47] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, yes i know and isnt your user password used with sudo?
[04:47] <bur[n] er> so... burn ;)
[04:47] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: it is...  hence, sudo, not root!
[04:47] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, open synaptic tell me what it asks you for?
[04:48] <uber_spaced> bur[n] er, <sarcasm>Ohhh! I get it! Sudo is a play on words!! Pseudo! As in Not REAL! As in NOT ROOT!!!</sarcasm>
[04:48] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, su is disabled by default
[04:48] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: it asks for a password for sudo... not a root password
[04:48] <idefix_> can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: su is not "disabled" there is no root password
[04:48] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, he also said he just installed it
[04:48] <Pygi> I bealive you should not use sudo :) use "gksudo" insted or "kdesu"
[04:48] <idefix_> Pygi? can you run the sources.list file? is it a script? can you run a script?
[04:48] <bur[n] er> idefix_: sources.list is just a text file... no scripting about it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> !su
[04:49] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[04:49] <cratel1> I'm needing to mount my newly formatted SATA drive. 1) Why doesn't it automount and 2) where should I mount it to? /mnt/<something>?
[04:49] <Pygi> idefix: sources.list is a text file, no script :)
[04:49] <idefix_> but linux reads from it?
[04:49] <Pygi> idefix: it is used to identify what repositories to use
[04:49] <Pygi> it is used by apt
[04:49] <idefix_> it's a bit like a system file then!
[04:49] <bur[n] er> cratel1: put it in /etc/fstab and give it a mount point... i use /media/sda1 for sata drives
[04:49] <bur[n] er> idefix_: sure
[04:50] <idefix_> how can you restore the situation just in case you screw up your PC?
[04:50] <Pygi> idefix: not really a system file :/ It is used by just "another app" in the system
[04:50] <cratel1> bur[n] er: okay. Will try. What are the <dump> and <pass> parameters in fstab?
[04:50] <bur[n] er> idefix_: restore sources.list?  just remember what you changed ;)
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ive never been able to figure out what MS thinks is imporntant enough to be a 'system file' :P it says everything from, the kernel.dll to the 'My Music' folder is critical.
[04:51] <bur[n] er> cratel1: 0 0
[04:51] <Pygi> willis: hehe :)
[04:51] <bur[n] er> Dr_Willis: for that matter, why is MS so possessive with the "My" crap anyway
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  not to mention the empty folders that are for some reason so critical - they get remade every time you delete them..
[04:51] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  if you mess something up in sources look at the sources list in the link ubotu will post
[04:51] <gnomefreak> !sources
[04:51] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:51] <Pygi> burner: they deprecated "My" in Vista I heard....
[04:52] <bur[n] er> Pygi: i heard the same... finally :)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> bur[n] er,  better then some of the other obscenely long names ive seen programs use.. or ones with (R) or (C) in the file names.
[04:52] <idefix_> is it a problem if the stuff I type into the sources.list is french?
[04:52] <Pygi> Willis: heh, really? Sorry, haven't used Windows for 8 years :/
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> French url's ? Hmm.. with fancy french characters?
[04:52] <Pygi> idefix: french? what are you typing in french?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> idefix_, dont know is it in french now?
[04:52] <_draken> errr
[04:53] <cratel1> bur[n] er: thanks. I'll reboot now and see if it worked...
[04:53] <bur[n] er> cratel1: no need to reboot
[04:53] <bur[n] er> oh well
[04:53] <bur[n] er> some people ;)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:53] <Pygi> burner: too late :)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> he thinks hes running windows
[04:53] <spiderworm> hi, if there's any ubuntu dvd playback experts here, can you please take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109583 <--- thanks in advance for your help
[04:53] <bur[n] er> silly windows tendencies
[04:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I was just about to say that :P
[04:53] <bur[n] er> lol
[04:53] <idefix_> could not save the file "etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:53] <idefix_> :-(
[04:54] <gnomefreak> very few things require reboot in linux :)
[04:54] <Pygi> idefix: you should use gksudo when editing file
[04:54] <bur[n] er> idefix_: edit it as root... aka use "sudo" or "gksudo"
[04:54] <gnomefreak> idefix_, why cant you hit the save button?
[04:54] <Pygi> or "kdesu" if using Kubuntu
[04:54] <Pygi> burner: do you really think it's a good idea to suggest "sudo" ? :/
[04:54] <iarwa> hello, is there anyone who can speak italian?
[04:54] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:54] <gnomefreak> gksude gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <gnomefreak> !it
[04:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:55] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: first thought is that you need a different libdvdcss file
[04:55] <iarwa> thanks
[04:55] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: isn't it "gksudo" and not "gksude" :/
[04:55] <idefix_> ok ok it works, now restart my PC?
[04:55] <bur[n] er> idefix_: no!!!!
[04:55] <Pygi> no, don't restart nothin' :P
[04:55] <gnomefreak> yes sorry :)
[04:55] <bur[n] er> lol
[04:55] <idefix_> no??
[04:55] <bur[n] er> silly windows converts
[04:55] <bur[n] er> no!
[04:55] <bur[n] er> just apt-get update
[04:55] <Pygi> no, your not on windows :P
[04:56] <Matis> hi!!! i am the greatest NW ever in Linux =P
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: hi hi :)
[04:56] <Malachi> How do you change default programs besides the web browser and mail program?
[04:56] <Matis> can i see the list of packages on apt-get ?
[04:56] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:56] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: i've tried a couple different ones, the one from the libdvdread3 package, and one that somebody else here recommended for me...
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: yes
[04:56] <draken_> wat is root password ppl ?
[04:56] <bur[n] er> Malachi: right click the filetype... properties, open with tab
[04:56] <Pygi> Matis: apt-cache :)
[04:56] <draken_> when u first install
[04:56] <Pygi> draken: no root pass, but you can set it
[04:56] <draken_> where how
[04:56] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: do you have a libdvdcss2 file you would recommend I try?
[04:56] <Pygi> draken: root is disabled by default
[04:56] <gnomefreak> draken_, what are you trying to do?
[04:57] <Malachi> Thanks, yet again, bur[n] er!
[04:57] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: wish I did... i got mine ages ago :\
[04:57] <draken_> edit network settings
[04:57] <draken_> asks for admin
[04:57] <spiderworm> k
[04:57] <Matis> lets see
[04:57] <Pygi> draken: heh, use ur password
[04:57] <gnomefreak> you use your user password
[04:57] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: try vlc?  that might be a workaround while you find a working libdvdcss
[04:57] <nalioth> draken_: there is no root password
[04:57] <draken_> i tried
[04:57] <cratel1> bur[n] er: just as I was rebooting I saw you wrote "no need to reboot." What should I have done instead? Also...it didn't work. I saw a "failed" when it tried to mount local files systems. Under the disk manager it has the SATA drive listed as "inaccessible."
[04:57] <draken_> doesnt work
[04:57] <Pygi> use "gksudo" or if ur using kubuntu then "kdesu"
[04:57] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: vlc doesnt play it either
[04:57] <bur[n] er> cratel1: mount /dev/blah
[04:57] <j2daosh> where is the autmatix script located at again?
[04:57] <idefix_> so unstable release or breezy release is that ok?
[04:57] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:57] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: vlc uses libdvdcss anyways
[04:57] <j2daosh> automatix
[04:57] <Pygi> o nalioth, hello :)
[04:57] <idefix_> I need some kick-ass linux course, that's all!
[04:58] <gnomefreak> draken_,  did you install ubuntu?
[04:58] <bur[n] er> vlc uses libdvdcss?  oh... guess I never knew, i've had libdvdcss long as I can remember ;)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  :P   google.com for it  - is what i always do..
[04:58] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: in response to Myth plyaing it choppy... have you enabled dma?
[04:58] <draken_> guys
[04:58] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:58] <draken_> it isnt working
[04:58] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: im not sure.... how do i check that?
[04:58] <|Lestat|> anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)
[04:58] <bur[n] er> !dma
[04:58] <draken_> i type my password it, just doesnt allow me to do admin shit
[04:58] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: only have command line access to the box right now btw
[04:58] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  theres a free online course for linux
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <Matis> nice like 1487 pkg :P thx
[04:59] <pericles> hi! I have installed postgreSQL and would like it to start at boot time. The command is /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster, but must be run by an unprivileged user called postgres. Thankx!
[04:59] <bur[n] er> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:59] <gnomefreak> draken_,  are you using command line?
[04:59] <idefix_> I get two W's and one E
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> draken_,  you made a initial user, you gave him a password.. try using 'sudo' from the shell with that password also..
[04:59] <draken_> no gnome
[04:59] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: links works ;)
[04:59] <draken_> im trying to bridge 2 network cards
[04:59] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: how do i check to see whether dma is enabled or not?
[04:59] <Matis> PYGI THX!!
[04:59] <idefix_> W: = warning? E: = exception?
[04:59] <Pygi> Matis: yw
[04:59] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: links https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:00] <AMD_> Is there a command shortcut to jump to a specific workspace?  rather than hitting CTRL-ALT <left arrow>/<right arrow>  ?   Something like CTRL-ALT [1234]    ?
[05:00] <draken_> can someone tell me how to bridge two cons ?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> here is the online course http://www.linux.org/lessons/index.html
[05:00] <idefix_> hey thanks for the cool shortcut
[05:00] <idefix_> Ctrl-Alt right twice :P
[05:01] <AMD_> idefix_: haha ;)
[05:01] <bur[n] er> AMD_: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[05:01] <draken_> how do i bridge two network cards
[05:01] <draken_> like in windows
[05:01] <bur[n] er> ctrl+alt+d == my favorite :)
[05:01] <AMD_> bur[n] er: thanks :)
[05:01] <bur[n] er> draken_: u come to irc and ask the same question over and over again and never use google... trust me, it works
[05:02] <Pygi> burner: really? what's a google? :)
[05:02] <Belboz99> Anyone know if it's a good or bad idea to add more debian sources to my etc/apt/sources.list file?
[05:02] <gnomefreak> lol Pygi
[05:02] <Bobl> is it possible to communicate with windows machines with sharing files and printers when running ubuntu? (n00b)
[05:02] <gnomefreak> bad
[05:02] <draken_> bur[n] er:  i dont have the time
[05:02] <bur[n] er> Belboz99: that's silly... it's dependent on what you add... not the fact that you add
[05:02] <tRSS> guys how can I take screenshot without logging into ubuntu. I have made a theme and I want to take screenshot of my theme
[05:02] <uber_spaced> Bobl, read up on samba
[05:02] <Belboz99> I'm feeling really limited here after using Debian for about 6 months
[05:02] <nalioth> Belboz99: a bad idea
[05:02] <bur[n] er> Bobl: yes... samba... "sudo apt-get install samba"
[05:02] <Pygi> bobl: samba
[05:02] <Pygi> gnomefreak: what's funny? :)
[05:02] <Bobl> roger!
[05:03] <bur[n] er> Belboz99: use universe?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Pygi, whats google
[05:03] <nalioth> Belboz99: debian biraries will break your ubuntu
[05:03] <Matis> I EVERYBODY----------- I AM REALY NW ON LINUX SO I WANT TO START FROM THE BEGINING I MEAN, USING JUST CONSOLE, AND THEN TRY TO SET UP A XWINDOW, CAN I QUIT GNOME FROM UBUNTU?, AND I WILL LEARN TO USE THE CONSOLE FIRST
[05:03] <gnomefreak> most packages you find in debian you will find in ubuntu
[05:03] <uber_spaced> Matis, ctrl-alt-f1
[05:03] <Pygi> Matis: Lower the caps lock, please
[05:03] <Belboz99> okay, so how do I get more ap's to in my apt list?
[05:03] <bur[n] er> Matis: upon install... instead of hitting "enter" type "server" and then enter
[05:03] <nalioth> Matis: turn off the caps, please
[05:03] <kemik> Matis:  do a server install of ubuntu (breezy)
[05:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Belboz99 about repos
[05:03] <nalioth> Belboz99: enable universe and multiverse
[05:04] <Matis> srry about the captions, and i don't now how to send pm :P
[05:04] <bur[n] er> Matis: /msg
[05:04] <Matis> yes i got breezy
[05:04] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, I don't know what's google :)
[05:04] <Malachi> What can stream .asx radio streams?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i would suggest that you keep Xwindows installed and learn the command line
[05:04] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: you wouldnt perchance know how i could go about troubleshooting why totem cant decrypt an encrypted dvd even though libdvdcss is installed, would you?
[05:04] <spiderworm> im wondering if there's just a symlink that needs to be put somewhere or something....
[05:04] <cratel1> bur[n] er: thanks! All is working now... Do I need to add anything to hdparm.conf i.e. dma=on or anything like that?
[05:04] <spiderworm> or maybe list the library in a file....
[05:04] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: i wish I could go deeper on it, but it kinda just worked after getting libdvdcss, so I never learned any troubleshooting
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: np, thanks anyways
[05:05] <bur[n] er> cratel1: if you want
[05:05] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: did you try that script from the wiki?
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: yes
[05:05] <Pygi> cratell: can I add in just one suggestion for days to come? :)
[05:05] <spiderworm> bur[n] er: i have dma enabled now, thanks for your help on that
[05:05] <idefix_> ok I executed apt-get update...
[05:05] <Pygi> cratell: don't restart your computer for every little change :)
[05:06] <idefix_> it lists three get's
[05:06] <bur[n] er> spiderworm: sure, at least once totem plays, it'll be fast ;)
[05:06] <gnomefreak> idefix_,  if no errors its a good thing
[05:06] <Pygi> idefix: it lists nothing :) just wait :)
[05:06] <spiderworm> dvd experts are few and far between in this community.... maybe i should go into #debian
[05:06] <Phocion> hey whats the apt command to install a DEB package directly from an HTTP server?
[05:06] <idefix_> I got two W: and one E:
[05:06] <idefix_> couldn't stat source package list
[05:06] <idefix_> and some index files failed to download
[05:06] <bur[n] er> Phocion: wget http://www.blah.com/blah.deb && sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[05:07] <Phocion> ahhhh ok thanks man
[05:07] <pl_ice> spiderworm u need the 2nd lib not 1st
[05:07] <gnomefreak> so thats how you use wget :(
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Phocion: you could also just do "apt-get install blah"
[05:07] <Pygi> burner: but doing that he must resolve dependencies on his own I am afraid :/
[05:07] <Pygi> gnomefreak: hehe :)
[05:07] <spiderworm> pl_ice: i'm sorry?  what do you mean?
[05:07] <Phocion> yea but it doesnt show up on the search list
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Pygi: sudo apt-get -f install usually works ;)
[05:07] <|Lestat|> anyone know of a good resource for finding out how to get my wireless network to initalize at bootup? :)
[05:07] <bur[n] er> Phocion: got universe and multiverse?
[05:07] <Pygi> burner: yes, yes :P
[05:08] <Malachi> What program can play .asx radio streams?
[05:08] <bur[n] er> |Lestat|: add "auto eth1" or whatever your eth# is to your /etc/network/interfaces file
[05:08] <pl_ice> spiderworm totem's libs got nothing to do with it. ... css ver 2
[05:08] <gnomefreak> i hate that command it reminds me of the hell i went through :(
[05:08] <Phocion> bur[n] er: whats that? .....im retty new with ubuntu
[05:08] <bur[n] er> Malachi: mozilla-mplayer if through a web browser
[05:08] <spiderworm> pl_ice: right, i have libdvdcss2 installed