[03:57] <PvAdct_ubuntu> when somebody sends a message and pidgin scrolls the list, the scrolling is like WAY more smooth than from windows
[03:57] <dryrot> mr_wang: I'm pretty sure that you need the gutsy alternative cd to upgrade an already existing installation of feisty
[03:57] <plik> PvAdct_ubuntu: good point - get to it
[03:57] <PvAdct_ubuntu> wonder why that is
[03:57] <Evanlec> haru, i just disabled splash screen, for some reason x64 has a number of people including me not even able to boot from the liveCD because the splash screen hangs
[03:57] <plik> dryrot: correct
[03:57] <Evanlec> the_darkside_986, yes that is what i did..
[03:57] <haru> Evanlec, mines x32
[03:57] <zhanx> upgrade failed, on the calculate packags and closed, using the alt cd
[03:57] <ramvi> juanbond: and you've got broken dependencies? Start up synaptic and go to Fix Broken at the top under, I think it is view or something
[03:57] <PvAdct_ubuntu> plik: I have a free partition (NTFS but empty) so I dont have to deal with repartitioning mess
[03:57] <t3318> anyone know how to lock icons on desktop?
[03:57] <Evanlec> haru, yea i dont think x32 users are affected...
[03:57] <FatGutsy> I have installed msttcorefonts on gutsy, however the fonts do not appear to be available in openoffice, this used to work in feisty, does anyone know if there is any additional steps to make msttcorefonts work correctly on gutsy now?
[03:57] <haru> :(
[03:57] <sx66xfce> lol
[03:57] <haru> someone help me fix my gutsy, when it loads instead of that progress bar thingy, my screen blinks till it comes to GDM
[03:57] <anarchist> I'm trying to get my wireless adapter to connect to my access point, can anyone help?
[03:58] <tritium> FatGutsy: there should not be.
[03:58] <haru> WorkingOnWise, any better?
[03:58] <PvAdct_ubuntu> I guess getting file from repo is slow as hell_
[03:58] <PvAdct_ubuntu> damn
[03:58] <PvAdct_ubuntu> keyboard map is wrong
[03:58] <PvAdct_ubuntu> brb
[03:58] <the_darkside_986> i don't know... i've got a fully functional progress bar and splash but an X-server that refuses to admit failure. i can switch to other tty's but X doesn't die automatically
[03:58] <hb> no matter what I do /grub/device.map points (hd0) and (hd1) to /dev/sda /dev/sdb respectively.  those are the disks of the raid, but they're in stripe mode they're not independant.
[03:58] <t3318> anyone know how to lock icons on desktop?
[03:58] <kendall_> is updating the distrbution via the Update Manager broken?
[03:58] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u seen this article? seems interesting...http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/10/16/64-bit_more_than_just_the_ram/1
[03:58] <AVARIEL> i had a terrible experience with gutsy today
[03:58] <AVARIEL> i mean come on
[03:58] <t3318> anyone know how to lock icons on desktop?
[03:58] <juanbond> ramvi, can i message you?
[03:58] <r0b-> wtf!
[03:58] <logreeval> please, anyone knows about sound?, i dont think gutsy detects my sound?
[03:58] <the_darkside_986> any chance they can fix this stuff and re-release it soon. i can't wait 6 months for a usable Ubuntu system :(
[03:59] <juanbond> ramvi, to much going on in here.
[03:59] <vocx> kendall_, read the topic
[03:59] <dansku> where can i find cool programs and stuff that work on tray?
[03:59] <AVARIEL> first, the update manager was working, then it crashed and the system broke so i had to install it from a boot disk
[03:59] <PvAdct_ubuntu> hey, I think I dont have sound either
[03:59] <jStefan> Where would i go to ask about compiz+ubuntu ?
[03:59] <localgod11>  anyone know where the nvidia-glx driver lives? (what repo)
[03:59] <plik> t3318:  chmod chould do it.
[03:59] <haru> logreeval, goto system -> preferences -> sound and see if it has ur soundcard
[03:59] <Evanlec> the_darkside_986, why dont u just reinstall and use the nv driver this time
[03:59] <|neon|> i hate to do a fresh installed since my sys is running great, i just did an apt-get update and upgrade/dist-upgrade but no packages needed to be updated i been doing updates everydayy does that means my sys is uptodate or should i do a fresh install
[03:59] <k0001> hello everybody =)
[03:59] <h08817> hey all i did fdisk /mbr and set my system back to windows but left my windows/linux partition on the drive. How can I reinstall the boot loader for linux?
[03:59] <sx66xfce> hi
[03:59] <AVARIEL> oh and i use to display my feisty on a monitor with a dvi and i cant get that working on gutsy...plus when i tried it just messed up my resolution for my normal monitor !
[03:59] <h08817> Fiesty fawn is what I have
[03:59] <linuxpoe1> Just a quick bounce, great job on gutsy
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> |neon|: you are up to date in that case.
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> haru: hmm
[04:00] <unagi> i dont understand why i cannot install libdvdcss2
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> haru: I have no sound either
[04:00] <logreeval> haru: it says PnP Audio Device..
[04:00] <vocx> the_darkside_986, if it really is bad, and you are not the only one they should fix it. I remember Feisty got a kernel upgrade almost immediately.
[04:00] <|neon|> bastid_raZor: thx
[04:00] <AVARIEL> guys, what do you think of gutsy ?
[04:00] <the_darkside_986> @Evanlec: I cannot even get to the point where I install or do a clean install because X server will never work on the liveCD. I'm on gutsy now but i am afraid to do a dist-upgrade
[04:00] <k0001> i'd like to know if there something like "live ubuntu server stats", just to know how many people downloaded ubuntu today =)=)=)
[04:00] <dryrot> |neon|: what are you trying to do?  it's not going to 'upgrade you to gutsy' unless you replace every instance of 'feisty' with 'gutsy' in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> oh wait
[04:00] <localgod11> anyone know where the nvidia-glx driver lives? (what repo)
[04:00] <unagi> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL LIBDVDCSS2
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> I do have sound :P
[04:00] <avt> vista vs beryl hahaha video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[04:00] <the_darkside_986> *i'm on feisty i mean
[04:00] <vocx> !grub > h08817
[04:00] <jStefan> where do i go to ask about Desktop Effects (compiz) ?
[04:00] <haru> logreeval, u'll prolly need some drivers then :|
[04:00] <mr_wang> i can't use the LIVE cd to update my system?
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> jStefan: #compiz-fusion
[04:00] <KaiForce> unagi no screaming
[04:00] <vocx> mr_wang, NO
[04:00] <k0001> oh, btw =) guys, YOU/WE ARE THE GREATEST COMMUNITY EVER!
[04:00] <PvAdct_ubuntu> mr_wang: I dont think so
[04:00] <VeganCheesesteak> ok now my install is hung up on scanning the update mirror. im guessing this is because of the server load....will it time out and continue or sit there forever?
[04:00] <haru> logreeval, test sound throws error?
[04:01] <jStefan> PvAdct_ubuntu, thx
[04:01] <AVARIEL> anybody here sticking to feisty for a bit ?
[04:01] <logreeval> haru: yes
[04:01] <dryrot> mr_wang: no, you need the 'alternative' cd, not the live cd
[04:01] <vocx> AVARIEL, I
[04:01] <|neon|> dryrot: i had gutsy beta installed a while ago none reference to another i.e feisty
[04:01] <avt> at the end of that movie it shows the winders 98 expo bsod lol
[04:01] <logreeval> haru - audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[04:01] <mr_wang> then i just wasted the intire night downloading crap.
[04:01] <KaiForce> i am avariel, for a bit
[04:01] <dryrot> |neon|: congradulations!  you've installed gutsy
[04:01] <AVARIEL> vocx: really ? i have a feeling i want to as well
[04:01] <sx66xfce> lol
[04:01] <|neon|> dryrot: thx
[04:01] <haru> logreeval, which soundcard?
[04:01] <Whisperkiller> so just to recap....how does everyone like gutsy so far?
[04:01] <AVARIEL> why are you guys for waiting it out a bit
[04:01] <the_darkside_986> i am stuck using feisty until gutsy either drops all this compiz out-of-the-box or maybe my CD is just burnt wrong and somehow passed the test
[04:01] <AVARIEL> ?
[04:01] <plik> dryrot: s/feisty/gutsy/g easy
[04:01] <dryrot> mr_wang: do you have a broadband connection?  grab a torrent of the alternative cd
[04:01] <inflex> Alright, who's stealing all the bandwdith :P
[04:01] <logreeval> haru its on board sound card
[04:01] <Evanlec> the_darkside_986, forget dist-upgrade, will take forever right now, just grab the alternate cd
[04:01] <DShepherd> has anyone upgraded from feisty to gutsy without any problems? both my desktop and laptop borked on upgrade
[04:02] <vocx> sx66xfce, too much laughing from you. Please stop and contribute or be quiet.
[04:02] <KaiForce> feisty runs great on my desktop and laptop so no hurry to upgrade
[04:02] <mr_wang> torrent is not working.
[04:02] <tritium> FatGutsy: I just installed them, and they work
[04:02] <haru> logreeval, which mobo
[04:02] <Whisperkiller> are the torrents running smooth on gutsy?
[04:02]  * inflex successfully upgraded his 7.04 64bit server to 7.10 ... kudos!
[04:02] <logreeval> haru  C-Media superior quality audo CODEC
[04:02] <dryrot> Whisperkiller: they work.
[04:02] <Whisperkiller> yeah i love feisty
[04:02] <AVARIEL> yeah feisty was awesome ! and i installed gutsy and it went to hell
[04:02] <logreeval> haru: asus m2n-3
[04:02] <AVARIEL> like straight to hell
[04:02] <the_darkside_986> feisty is awesome. but hardy heron will be great if they get the new xorg release in there.
[04:02] <Mmph> can anyone suggest a free cd burn software for windows? My nero won let me go lower than 8X and my live cd's are borqued :(
[04:02] <FatGutsy> tritium, ok thanks mate
[04:02] <tritium> AVARIEL: what went wrong?
[04:02] <PvAdct_ubuntu> Mmph: I can!
[04:02] <PvAdct_ubuntu> Mmph: hold on, searching
[04:02] <Mmph> :)
[04:03] <Whisperkiller> i tried installing the gutsy beta like 10 days before release and couldnt get it to install
[04:03] <PvAdct_ubuntu> starting firefox from livecd is slow
[04:03] <AVARIEL> the updater crashed so i installed it manually with a cd (after getting a server by luck!)
[04:03] <Whisperkiller> seems like gutsy launch is going a lot rougher than feisty did
[04:03] <m1r> mmph isoburner
[04:03] <AVARIEL> it all seeme to work alright
[04:03] <unagi> i dont understand why i cannot install libdvdcss2
[04:03] <unagi> can someone explain it to me?
[04:03] <Mmph> Cool thanks m1r :D
[04:03] <unagi> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[04:03] <AVARIEL> but my external monitor display which was perfect in feisty didnt work at all
[04:03] <gidim> Does the upgrade hang at "Fetching file 21 of 30" during [Preparing the upgrade] for anyone else? :)
[04:03] <PvAdct_ubuntu> Mmph: I have an iso burner that fits 300KB
[04:03] <AVARIEL> and when i tweaked at the resolution
[04:03] <|neon|> great everything is working fine for me (knock on wood )   even compiz is beautiful
[04:03] <dryrot> unagi: software patents i guess.  i can play any dvd i want with 'vlc'
[04:03] <crshman> can i use uuid's in an mdadm.conf file?
[04:03] <AVARIEL> it permanently ruined it for my laptop too !
[04:03] <PvAdct_ubuntu> Mmph: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/burncdcc.zip
[04:03] <plik> Mmph: cdburnerxp.se
[04:03] <Evanlec> I dont recommend anyone doing a dist-upgrade at this point....
[04:03] <LordLimecat> gidim: possibly the servers being hammered?
[04:04] <vocx> !find libdvdcss2 | unagi
[04:04] <unagi> what do you mean software patents
[04:04] <endx> hey, I'm installing gutsy over where feisty used to be...
[04:04] <k0001> unagi, afaik libdvdcss2 is kinda "illegal" or something like that
[04:04] <DShepherd> |neon|, you upgraded?
[04:04] <the_darkside_986> i am afraid to even get the alternate-cd. there is probably no functional X server on it either... and i can't configure my wireless from commandline in order to get nvidia-glx
[04:04] <ubotu> unagi: Package/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy
[04:04] <kbreit> Using the appearance capplet, I try to load the compiz widgets.  It loads, but the window manager doesn't appear to render the window borders.  How can I debug?
[04:04] <LordLimecat> why not just torrent the alternate CD, burn it, and upgrade with that
[04:04] <endx> but I installed xp and vista afterwards, so I'm using vista's MBR
[04:04] <Mmph> wow cool thanks guys!
[04:04] <ScottWegner> Hi all...  I'm having a little trouble upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10:  I'm using local mirrors, so it shouldn't be a speed issue, but the Upgrade Manager freezes after the first step every time, and I can see that it's updated my sources.list
[04:04] <LordLimecat> MUCH faster, i got a 2Mbps connection on the CD
[04:04] <endx> will installing the boot loader now change it to grub as the main boot loader, or still use vista's mbr?
[04:04] <dryrot> unagi: software patents are these things that you can read about somewhere else, i don't want to give someone the opportuniry to start ranting
[04:04] <logreeval> haru: any luck ?
[04:04] <|neon|> DShepherd: i installed the beta a while back and been doing updates ever since
[04:04] <tritium> !dvd | unagi
[04:04] <VeganCheesesteak> Will scanning the mirror time out?
[04:04] <ubotu> unagi: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:04] <unagi> so no one in here has libdvdcss2 installed
[04:04] <tritium> unagi: read your help system!!!
[04:04] <AVARIEL> anyone here have a GOOD experience with gutsy ??>??
[04:04] <haru> logreeval, trying
[04:04] <DShepherd> |neon|, ok..
[04:04] <mr_wang> is the severs still getting bombed?
[04:04] <iobelisk> does anybody have an idea why the partition editor detects my blank 80 gig hard drive as only 74.5
[04:04] <unagi> im not asking what software patents are
[04:04] <parsek> 7.10 installer says that it is the pre release of the ubuntu not the final version, is it normal?
[04:04] <logreeval> haru: i appreciate your help
[04:04] <dryrot> AVARIEL: im running it right now.  do you have a specific problem?
[04:04] <LordLimecat> endx: grub will sort of replace vistas, but will load the vista boot loader if you pick the windows option on boot
[04:04] <unagi> im asking what that has to do with the error im getting installing libdvdcss2
[04:05] <endx> hm
[04:05] <Evanlec> AVARIEL, first of all can u change your nickname so its not all caps please?
[04:05] <tritium> unagi: read the URL I had ubotu send you
[04:05] <crshman> more specifically, can i use uuid's for devices in an mdadm.conf file?
[04:05] <unagi> i have
[04:05] <endx> right now I have a triple boot system with xp, ubuntu and xp
[04:05] <unagi> going back to my INITIAL question
[04:05] <KaiForce> iobelisk its reporting it accurately, your drive mfg counted a gb as 1000mb
[04:05] <endx> trying to install gutsy where feisty used to be
[04:05] <PvAdct_ubuntu> endx: two xps?
[04:05] <tritium> unagi: and open up your help system, and read on how to install livdvdcss there
[04:05] <unagi> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[04:05] <endx> er vista rather
[04:05] <RobotBanana> Question from a newb: If I messed up my graphics driver, how do I start Gnome working around it?
[04:05] <RobotBanana> i.e. VGA mode
[04:05] <Journeyman> I just installed gusty and everything was working well but now compiz seems to be lagging
[04:05] <dryrot> unagi: there's probably a unsupported ubuntu software suppository somewhere with what you need to start reading dvds, there are various legal reasons they will not include it in the official dist.
[04:05] <Journeyman> like when I minamize it takes forever
[04:05] <LordLimecat> endx: you are trying to have a feisty, xp, gutsy triboot?
[04:05] <Journeyman> even when I ajust the time to the lowest setting
[04:05] <ubuntu> sorry
[04:05] <endx> so I'm just wondering if I should check install boot loader on advanced right now
[04:05] <ubuntu> im on a live cd
[04:06] <plik> dryrot: heh :)
[04:06] <ubuntu> because my gutsy crashed
[04:06] <endx> no, I'm trying to install gutsy over where feisty used to be
[04:06] <vocx> !enter > ubuntu
[04:06] <PvAdct_ubuntu> Journeyman: what's your gfx card? also, compiz questions better go on #compiz-fusion, this channel is crowded enough
[04:06] <LordLimecat> endx: Why not perform an upgrade?
[04:06] <iobelisk> oh, really? i wonder why they do that. anyway, so it is not a case of the partition editor not recognizng part of my drive?
[04:06] <endx> hm
[04:06] <Evanlec> endx, gosh why would u want vista AND xp ? lol
[04:06] <kevinO> when does development for hardy begin?
[04:06] <Journeyman> PvAdct_ubuntu, it has nothing to do with my video card, it was working fine
[04:06] <ubuntu> could never get my resolution back after i tried modifying it to suit my external display (which worked with feisty)
[04:06] <tritium> dryrot: not quite, read ubotu's response
[04:06] <endx> compatible purposs
[04:06] <LordLimecat> endx: do you have a fast connection? if so, torrent the alternate CD, burn it, and stick it in.  It will start upgrading
[04:06] <endx> I figure I'd work with a clean system rather than before
[04:06] <bjron> bah! I wish they hadn't disabled the little "terminal" triangle in the upgrader, at least I can see what it's trying to do when it hangs :P
[04:07]  * gidim does not want Vista, EVER; keeps XP until figuring out WINE enough to run EverQuest, GuildWars, Diablo 2, Starcraft, etc etc etc.
[04:07] <endx> hm
[04:07] <KaiForce> iobelisk unlikely no.  they do it so they can sell you an 80gb drive even though its really 75
[04:07] <PvAdct_ubuntu> if I want KDE is it a better idea to use kubuntu?
[04:07] <endx> I have an iso of the alternate cd
[04:07] <LordLimecat> endx: if you wish to replace feisty, just wipe the feisty partition and install, pretty sure it wont mess up yer triboot.
[04:07] <endx> I'm running on the livecd right now actually
[04:07] <vocx> !xconfig > ubuntu
[04:07] <Pseudoryx>  Does anyone know wat is the kernel version of the release of gutsy yesterday?
[04:07] <rflmnz> people, I have an ATI x1300 and I can't use compiz on the Ubuntu 7.10... Does anyone could help me?
[04:07] <unagi> so no one has an answer to what E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate means?
[04:07] <LordLimecat> endx: note that im PRETTY sure, but not positive
[04:07] <endx> yea that's what I'm trying to do and thinking
[04:07] <endx> just wondering if I should check boot loader for advanced in the install session window
[04:07] <RobotBanana> !xconfig > RobotBanana
[04:07] <tritium> unagi: quit repeating and read instructions that I've given you
[04:07] <vocx> unagi, there is simply no package by that name. Stop asking.
[04:07] <LordLimecat> endx: yer computer literate i take it?
[04:07] <dryrot> unagi: I think a bunch of people have gotten the bot to tell you by now, haven't they ?
[04:07] <Evanlec> gidim, amazingly those are all very compatible games with Wine...
[04:07] <endx> for the most part
[04:07] <LordLimecat> endx: why not wing it, could be fun
[04:07] <slackern> Pseudoryx,  2.6.22-14
[04:07] <LordLimecat> :D
[04:07] <bjron> bah! do I have to *UNPLUG* my network cable in order to get the updater to just use the cd?  I already disabled all the other sources (i think!)
[04:07] <endx> I could
[04:07] <k0001> PvAdct_ubuntu, of course, since it only contains KDE apps,
[04:08] <unagi> there is no package by that name?
[04:08] <caner> what was the default system font for feisty? i didnt like gutsys fonts
[04:08] <unagi> wtf does that mean
[04:08] <iobelisk> well even with 1000 mb to a gig, 80000 mb should come upto 78 gigs
[04:08] <LordLimecat> honestly, if you know what yer doin, id go for it
[04:08] <iobelisk> i dont get it
[04:08] <unagi> are you trying to tell me it doesnt exist?
[04:08] <LordLimecat> unless you have really sensitive data that you really cant lose
[04:08] <gidim> I always get flack from MS fanbois for my genuine mistrust of Vista and my unwillingness to buy it when I have a working XP Home and Ubuntu to satisfy me. :)
[04:08] <juanbond> mrj, you still around ???
[04:08] <dryrot> bjron: i had a problem like that, i backed up my sources.list file, and removed all the non cd lines, then apt-get update
[04:08] <soctu> authentication failed on gutsy upgrade
[04:08] <vocx> !find libdvdcss2 | unagi
[04:08] <k0001> caner, Bitsream Vera Sans
[04:08] <tritium> unagi: you're not reading instructions.
[04:08] <ubotu> unagi: Package/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy
[04:08] <jmantra>  /msg ubotu mirrors
[04:08] <ubuntu> i dont know guys i think im gonna hit feisty for a while...im not ready for gutsy
[04:08] <LordLimecat> 95% sure you wont lose your XP or vista access-worst case you could probably edit grub
[04:08] <ScottWegner> Hi all...  I'm having a little trouble upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10:  I'm using local mirrors, so it shouldn't be a speed issue, but the Upgrade Manager freezes after we "fetch files".  After I kill the process I can see that the sources.list file has been updated, but nothing else.  Any ideas?
[04:08] <dryrot> unagi: are you unable to read private messages on irc ?
[04:08] <Evanlec> gidim, but you'd be right
[04:08] <endx> ah alright
[04:08] <logreeval> haru: finding anything?
[04:08] <PvAdct_ubuntu> k0001: I mean as opposed to installing ubuntu and apt-getting all KDE
[04:09] <gidim> I know, it's sad that they can't accept it.
 thanks. do you agree with me that the default fonts for gutsy are ugly?
[04:09] <CoasterMaster> sudo !!
[04:09] <dryrot> what's your email address?  i'm going to email you shirtless photos of richard stallman
[04:09] <endx> so I'll work with grub in worst-case scenario? I could live with that
[04:09] <tritium> dryrot: he needs to follow the proper procedures, which he's been give, but apparently won't read
[04:09] <PvAdct_ubuntu> dryrot: are you registered with nickserv?
[04:09] <CoasterMaster> whoops sorry
[04:09] <haru> logreeval, theres some post on the forum
[04:09] <rflmnz> People, I have an ATI x1300 and I can't use compiz on the Ubuntu 7.10... Does anyone could help me? PM please
[04:09] <endx> I just don't want to have to reedit all the boot sectors
[04:09] <LordLimecat> endx: as far as im aware, grub just sort of shoves the vista boot loader one step beneath it...and vista does the same with XP
[04:09] <LordLimecat> so each boot loader is still sort of there
[04:09] <gidim> Now, when Vienna comes out, it might be worth a look. All the rumors I hear make it sound like the *nix of Windows.
[04:09] <dryrot> PvAdct_ubuntu: yes
[04:09] <logreeval> haru: ok, ill take a look...
[04:09] <endx> yea the process of which I installed my triple boot was ubuntu-> xp-> vista
[04:09] <endx> so that's what I'm working with right now
[04:09]  * gidim pokes Update Manager.
[04:10] <endx> I know I could probably run all 3 with more than one window if I used grub
[04:10] <doofy`> is every single repo messed up right now?
[04:10] <Pseudoryx>  I want turn off some services in the boot up process, does anyone remember wat is the command to do? I remember there was a ncurse GUI allow you to do so
[04:10] <sx66xfce> how do you install beryl?
[04:10] <LordLimecat> gidim: vista sounded absoultely awesome when it was announced.  I will never be taken in again. If they want to get me excited, show me a alpha or beta that doesnt suck
[04:10] <hb> how do I modifiy text files on the gutsy alternate install setup?  when I alt-f2 and change to /target to modify a file I can't seem to find a text editor
[04:10] <gidim> You go on, modify those software channels.
[04:10] <k0001> caner, i don't know, i'm using gutsy since august, i dont remember which were the default ... anyways i use Liberation Sans as my default font
[04:10] <tritium> unagi: have you gone to System -> Help and Support yet, to read how it's done?
[04:10] <iobelisk> either way i am losing atleast 3 or 6 gigabytes
[04:10]  * gidim nodnods.
[04:10] <endx> but the process of which I handled it made me able to run through those 3 systems with 1 screen selection
[04:10] <grumbel> using closed source nvidia: my mouse-cursor is black&white, instead of properly alpha-blended/anti-aliased, how can I fix that?
[04:10] <wizard__> so can someone help me understand why, unlike most people, my wireless works out of the box but my wired DOESN'T in gutsy?
[04:10] <dryrot> doofy`: i found the mirror on kernel.org to be really fast, they have a good net connection
[04:10] <logreeval> haru: i am going to reboot to see if the sound is turned on in the BIOS...how long are you going to be here?
[04:10] <wizard__> its a real turn of events.
[04:10] <LordLimecat> endx: yes, but thats trickery
[04:10] <tork> i tried to download the new one and it froze on firefox.
[04:10] <doofy`> dryrot, ill give it a shot. thank you
[04:10] <PvAdct_ubuntu> wizard__: whats your network card?
[04:10] <endx> hm
[04:10] <KaiForce> iobelisk please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk#Capacity_measurements
[04:10] <haru> logreeval, its just morning here.. so abt 12 hrs :)
[04:10] <tork> my connection here is so slow.... it's at 64 and won't restart.
[04:10] <dryrot> wizard__: do you see your wired interface when you run ifconfig ?
[04:10] <LordLimecat> essentially, the vista bootloader doesnt appear because it has no reason
[04:10] <wizard__> PvAdct_ubuntu: its on-board from my laptop. works in windows and ONCE upon a time worked in linux
[04:11] <gidim> And you know what bugs me? The Vista security feature everyone complains about, at least everyone I talk to, is the feature we already have. Being prompted for a password to modify the system.
[04:11] <iobelisk> okay, thank you very much.
[04:11] <PvAdct_ubuntu> wizard__: I had similar problems
[04:11] <LordLimecat> oh wait
[04:11] <logreeval> haru, cool, thanks again for the help :D
[04:11] <gidim> And we've had the feature for years.
[04:11] <Kyoukipichi> I wonder if anyone here knows a command for completely reversing the order of all bytes or bits in a single file.
[04:11] <LordLimecat> you could load XP AND vista directly?
[04:11] <wizard__> dryrot: yup, but setting static = no resolve, setting autodhcp = no resolve
[04:11] <k0001> PvAdct_ubuntu, of course, since after apt-geting kde, you will still keep the gnome/ubuntu stuff which has nothing to do with kde, and that will make your system completely bloated
[04:11] <FNX> hello!
[04:11] <logreeval> haru bbiab i will try some stuff..
[04:11] <j_ack> unagi, you find it?
[04:11] <localgod11> can someone tell me where i can manage the desktop effects settings?
[04:11] <LordLimecat> that could require some grub setup, MAYBE...but i still think gutsy will be smart enough to keep grub mostly the same
[04:11] <k0001> localgod11, right click on desktop, last option
[04:11] <dryrot> wizard__: i don't know what that means.  so can you grab a ip address with it?  sudo dhclient eth0
[04:11] <k0001> last tab
[04:11] <wizard__> dryrot: no i cant
[04:11] <imbecile> is there a problem with upgrading lag? 30+ minutes & I am halfway through modifying software channels
[04:11] <unagi> dryrot..........many people have gotten the bot to point me to the same god damn page i have been to 5 times
[04:11]  * Kyoukipichi needs to know one so he can try it on an AOL CD and possibly hear demonic voices
[04:11] <kr00lplatinum> So I got Ubuntu 10.7 and I can't install anything from the add/remove manager.
[04:12] <wizard__> dryrot: and it worked in ubuntu edgy, but not feisty and now not gutsy
[04:12] <LordLimecat> quick question--is bullet-proofX implemented?  Please say yes
[04:12] <cdm10> imbecile: the servers are VERY swamped
[04:12] <vocx> imbecile, read topic
[04:12] <tritium> unagi: watch the language
[04:12] <cdm10> kr00lplatinum: the servers are swamped
[04:12] <unagi> if im posting an error in attempt to get libdvdcss2 dont you think maybe ive been there already?
[04:12] <endx> canhm
[04:12] <localgod11> is there a way to manage all the options like i did with beryl?
[04:12] <unagi> or do you n ot think that complex
[04:12] <PvAdct_ubuntu> hmm
[04:12] <tritium> unagi: no, because you're not following instructions.
[04:12] <rflmnz> People, I have an ATI x1300 and I can't use compiz on the Ubuntu 7.10... Does anyone could help me? PM please
[04:12] <k0001> imbecile, today is day0, of course servers are doing the best they can, be patinent
[04:12] <tritium> unagi: there is _NO_ libdvdcss package.  You'd know this if you read.
[04:12] <endx> can I use this string and not load boot loader to run with my current configuration: "sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/media/share/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1" ?
[04:12] <cdm10> localgod11: install Advanced Compiz Configuration Thingy from Add/Remove
[04:12] <LordLimecat> unagi: im not 100% following yer conversation, but im going to guess that you want libdecss, and its not there, and you want to know how to get it
[04:12] <unagi> really
[04:12] <localgod11> thanks
[04:12] <unagi> i just installed it
[04:12] <avt> I cant find libglitz-glx1 in synaptic in dapper drake ubuntu<<<<<<<<<
[04:12] <dryrot> unagi: i think it's like asking "why isnt this piece of software that has gotten people thrown in jail and sued included in the default ubuntu repositories"
[04:12] <unagi> looks like you were wrong
[04:12] <kr00lplatinum> cdm10: So i can't download free programs because ubuntu 7.10 is being downloaded by everyone?
[04:12] <DerangedDingo> anyone here who thinks the download is taking too long just torrent it and leave the torrent open afterwards to help other people
[04:12] <cdm10> kr00lplatinum: pretty much
[04:13] <PvAdct_ubuntu> I have my disk separated in two partitions, I already freed one of them (it's NTFS formatted but no files on it); how can I make the installer use the whole second partition? I don't want resizing it, and I don't want it to use the whole disk
[04:13] <localgod11> what about emerald?
[04:13] <tritium> unagi: how hard is it to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[04:13] <tritium> ?
[04:13] <unagi> thats not what i asked
[04:13] <tritium> yes it is
[04:13] <unagi> i know why it isnt included
[04:13] <FNX> anyone wanna have a private conversation about ubuntu and hacking and such?
[04:13] <PvAdct_ubuntu> FNX WTF?
[04:13] <FNX> lol
[04:13] <tritium> No, FNX, that's offtopic
[04:13] <dryrot> dryrot: you hurt my feelings so.  anyway im glad you got libdvd666 installed.  oh.  you kept asking 'why isnt it included?????!?!?!?!?!!?" so i answered you
[04:13] <FNX> o my bad
[04:13] <vocx> FNX, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <LordLimecat> unagi, its because ubuntu cannot legally distribute that package.  Same reason windows doesnt come with DeCSS installed--its illegal in the US
[04:13] <FNX> wait wait wait...i said HACKING...not cracking.....
[04:13] <unagi> once again
[04:13] <Bax> what's the command for a terminal to delete a directory and all files and sub directories inside of it?
[04:13] <unagi> i know WHY it doesnt come with it
[04:13] <vocx> dryrot, you talk to yourself, ha
[04:14] <cdm10> Bax: rm -r
[04:14] <localgod11> how do i make the cube rotate?
[04:14] <gidim> Aw hell, this is driving me nuts, I think I'll reboot to liveCD, do a fresh install of 7.04 and then patch and then upgrade.
[04:14] <unagi> my question was why after following the wiki adding in the repo i was gettign that error
[04:14] <jonfish_> how do you get widgets for gutsy gibbon???
[04:14] <kr00lplatinum> cdm10: well that's good to know! Why doesn't everyone just torrent Ubuntu 10.7
[04:14] <darkcrab> Lord, why can dell legally distribute drivers?
[04:14] <unagi> but its cool
[04:14] <gidim> Back later all.
[04:14] <jimmyww_> "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0"
[04:14] <jimmyww_> help
[04:14] <unagi> everyone decided to come up with their own version of what i asked
[04:14] <LordLimecat> unagi: sounds like the proper repo was not set up
[04:14] <Bax> cdm10: then the directory's name?
[04:14] <Madpilot> darkcrab, because they pay money
[04:14] <darkcrab> thank you Mad
[04:14] <cdm10> kr00lplatinum: it's not the people downloading ubuntu, it's the people upgrading... and you can't upgrade via torrent
[04:14] <tritium> unagi: stop
[04:14] <cdm10> Bax: yup
[04:14] <Bax> ty!
[04:14] <LordLimecat> unagi, unless you didnt notice, this channel is really hectic right now, im really only partially seeing your convo.  May be best to check a forum for this
[04:14] <PvAdct_ubuntu> I have my disk separated in two partitions, I already freed one of them (it's NTFS formatted but no files on it); how can I make the installer use the whole second partition? I don't want resizing it, and I don't want it to use the whole disk; I basically only want to reformat one partition but not touch the partition table
[04:15] <kr00lplatinum> cdm10: screw upgrading just do a fresh install
[04:15] <liberion> hey guys does anyone know how ubuntu gets its name for new releases
[04:15] <darkcrab> I was also curious about something.  Typed in the wrong number and now everything's too large for me to access the option again. Can I change it on the command line?
[04:15] <vocx> unagi, there is no point in arguing. We are volunteers and blah blah blah...you know the rest.
[04:15] <cdm10> unagi: < sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh > is that so hard?
[04:15] <tritium> unagi: the process is simple.  1) install libdvdread3, and run the command cdm10 just pasted
[04:15]  * LordLimecat did not know about said dvd install command
[04:15] <tritium> LordLimecat: it's in the help info
[04:15] <|neon|> does gutsy supports the intel ichr9 raid controller using dmraid , just wondering since the ichr9 still a fakeraid if dmraid will work
[04:15] <vocx> darkcrab, ask them.There is also a subforum dedicated to Dell computers.
[04:15] <unagi> let me push up a few times and repeat what i said before for those that missed it
[04:16] <unagi> i just installed it
[04:16]  * LordLimecat didnt read that info :(
[04:16] <sx66xfce> !beryl
[04:16] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[04:16] <unagi> looks like you were wrong
[04:16] <darkcrab> thank you vocx
[04:16] <cdm10> unagi: so, what's your complaint?
[04:16] <unagi> dont have one
[04:16] <cdm10> unagi: via sudo apt-get?
[04:16] <dryrot> unagi: go away
[04:16] <DerangedDingo> darkcrab: if it doesn't you can install them from the repositories. most likely it's the same as if you had downloaded and installed yourself. i don't see a reason for them to alter/add to the OS like they do with Vista. Either way most of Dell's hardware is compatible anyway
[04:16] <sx66xfce> !sudo apt-install beryl
[04:16] <cdm10> unagi: that's not possible. Watch this.
[04:16] <unagi> just saying that all this hostile bs at the moment is stupid
[04:16] <cdm10> sx66xfce: there is no beryl any more
[04:16] <FNX> anyone else having trouble connecting to the ubuntu us servers?
[04:16] <jimmyww_> come on can someone help me with "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0"
[04:16] <cdm10> !info libdvdcss2 | unagi
[04:16] <sx66xfce> nooooooo
[04:16] <ubotu> unagi: Package libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy
[04:16] <unagi> oh man
[04:16] <Madpilot> FNX, they're likely overloaded
[04:16] <sx66xfce> cdm10: noooooo
[04:16] <unagi> the bot said
[04:16] <unagi> it doesnt exist in gutsy
[04:16] <Pseudoryx> dryrot: if you want to get dvd playing so much, get yourself LinDVD rpm from Mandriva 2007
[04:16] <darkcrab> I dont have to upgrade right?
[04:16] <unagi> that must mean it doesnt exist at all
[04:16] <tritium> cdm10: we've told him many times.    The reason people are giving you this repeat advice is because you keep discussing this, and people arent paying 100% attention to you--theres like 500 other people who need help in here
[04:17] <cdm10> sx66xfce: if you want to install the advanced config stuff for compiz, install the package "ccsm"
[04:17] <avt> I cant find libglitz-glx1 in synaptic in dapper drake ubuntu why??????
[04:17] <sx66xfce> k
[04:17] <darkcrab> yea, I never get upset if people dont answer me. There are so many people here with questions.
[04:17] <Flats> has neone tried to install the ieee80211-1.2.18 program for the Intel pro wireless adapter?
[04:17] <unagi> lets see
[04:18] <sx66xfce> cdm10: i am on xubuntu, do I only install "ccsm"?
[04:18] <unagi> !info mayaautoscript
[04:18] <ubotu> Package mayaautoscript does not exist in gutsy
[04:18] <cdm10> sx66xfce: yep
[04:18] <vocx> tritium, damn that was rough... anyway, good luck, I'm off.
[04:18]  * anarchist is away, auto-away after 20 minutes, (log\off pager\on)
[04:18] <darkcrab> bye vocx
[04:18] <vocx> darkcrab, later
[04:18] <tritium> bye vocx
[04:18] <haru> someone help me fix my gutsy, when it loads instead of that progress bar thingy, my screen blinks till it comes to GDM
[04:18] <liberion> so guys where does ubuntu come up with the names for its releases
[04:18] <Flats> •haru• you just a login screen
[04:19] <Pseudoryx> liberion: is that gutsy is the name of the monkey?
[04:19] <haru> Flats, what?
[04:19] <Madpilot> liberion, in the bottom of large glasses of alcohol.
[04:19] <dryrot> liberion: i think it's whatever mark shuttleworth thinks sounds funny
[04:19] <el_z0rr0> Is there something wrong with the us.archive.ubuntu.com repository?  I can't get universe
[04:19] <kbreit> Where does the crash handler plugin log in gutsy by default?
[04:19] <kbreit> ...for compiz
[04:19] <|neon|> have ne1 try the trevino gutsy repos
[04:19] <liberion> madcap_magician, what alcoholic bottles
[04:19] <RoC_MasterMind> el_z0rr0, I had trouble with the mirrors today, I just find and replaced us.archive.ubuntu.com with uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <cdm10> el_z0rr0: yes, there's a lot wrong with it, the servers are swamped because everyone's upgrading at once.
[04:20] <dryrot> has anyone gotten xen to work in gutsy ?
[04:20] <Flats> •haru• you do get to the gnome display login screen?
[04:20] <RoC_MasterMind> Tip to anybody wanting to upgrade....change your apt mirror!
[04:20] <haru> Flats, yes..i can login as well
[04:20] <TECH_1> U know: those servers have to be lagged..loo..I am waiting.
[04:20] <|neon|> dryrot: i would like to know also
[04:20] <dryrot> RoC_MasterMind: synaptic and i think update manager let you choose different repositories too
[04:20] <ali> I am having problem with kde
[04:20] <el_z0rr0> I see, thanks
[04:20] <Pipotchi> I have a problem with a ethernet driver in ubuntu 32 bits (and PCLinuxOS) but I never had such a problem with Ubuntu 64 bits... are the driver differents between 32 and 64 bits version?
[04:20] <unagi> dont get pissed at me because people in here decided to get bitchy when i told them they were wrong
[04:20] <cdm10> el_z0rr0, RoC_MasterMind: If you go to System>Admin>Software Sources there's a way for it to automatically find the fastest mirror
[04:20] <DerangedDingo> TORRENT. don't download from the main servers
[04:20] <dryrot> |neon|: I can't even get it to work right with debian etch
[04:20] <liberion> so guys where does the name gibbon come from??
[04:20] <sx66xfce> cdm10: i can not find the package "ccsm" in respo. or add/remove
[04:20] <ali> some processes of kde goes not "disk sleep" status without terminating, they hang there
[04:20] <un1x01d> is there an alternate dvd version ?
[04:20] <tritium> unagi: ban-evading will get you in worse trouble...
[04:21] <|neon|> :(
[04:21] <Flats> •haru• My problem was before login. Fought with it for a while but your pastthat
[04:21] <unagi> ban-avading?
[04:21] <unagi> lmao
[04:21] <unagi> ok
[04:21] <endx> hey is anybody here running ubuntu on an x500 hp product?
[04:21] <Pseudoryx> liberion: sounds the same like Ribbon
[04:21] <el_z0rr0> cdm10: I'll try it
[04:21] <unagi> not my fault sprint renews ip addresses when you reconnect
[04:21] <darkcrab> are the visual effects more stable in gutsy?
[04:21] <liberion> Pseudoryx, your point ?
[04:21] <cdm10> sx66xfce: look for "advanced desktop effects" in add/remove, make sure it's set to All Available Applications
[04:21] <Pseudoryx> liberion: just code name, maybe it does not make any sense at all
[04:21] <makzu> A gibbon is a type of monkey
[04:21] <corevette_> text won't show for me in a pdf
[04:22] <LiMaO> how do i start the cube rotation?
[04:22] <makzu> A little one
[04:22] <RoC_MasterMind> cdm10, I'm looking...how?
[04:22] <the_darkside_986> i have a question. does the liveDVD have restricted drivers or just more free packages?
[04:22] <Pseudoryx> Makzu: i c
[04:22] <cdm10> RoC_MasterMind: in the mirror selection box, choose other, then hit the button.
[04:22] <zulgaban> hi hi hi
[04:22] <Flats> guess there is no way to go back is there?
[04:22] <paq7512> what is the main difference between the dvd and cd version?
[04:22] <makzu> Pseudoryx: They're actually pretty cute
[04:23] <eulogy_> Is anyone else having long wait times for downloads through synaptics?
[04:23] <TECH_1> I am running Ubuntu on a 2Gig (E machine)....It screams..thanks Ubuntu.
[04:23] <RoC_MasterMind> yeah, interesting cdm10
[04:23] <corevette_> text won't show for me in a pdf
[04:23] <slackern> paq7512, the dvd has options like doing server install, textbased install (like alternate cd) and the livecd where you can install from.
[04:23] <crshman> would rsync be the fastest way to copy data from one harddrive to another or would the "cp" command be faster?
[04:23] <Zambezi> How is Gutsy on a server?
[04:23] <RoC_MasterMind> eulogy_, switch to a different mirror through system/admin/software sources
[04:23] <cdm10> crshman: i don't see why rsync would make it go any faster unless you're trying to only sync differences.
[04:23] <makzu> So, I'm trying to install Gutsy now and for a while it's been stuck at 82%, Configuring apt.  Is it just going slowly because so many other people are hitting that server too?
[04:24] <paq7512> slackern: thanks but all i really need is the cd version just to try out linux right?
[04:24] <eugo> ok i mount'ed my windows partition, now some filenames which have special characters are showing (e.g. "d\303\255s" instead of "dís")
[04:24] <eulogy_> Thanks RoC-MasterMind
[04:24] <WorkingOnWise> haru: reloaded repos in Synaptic, tried installing another package. Same error.
[04:24] <haru> makzu, yes
[04:24] <zulgaban> how to get the latest ubuntu on DVD?
[04:24] <dagobert> i gotta see if this still works
[04:24] <dagobert> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[04:24] <crshman> i thought rsync would actually have a higher overhead than just straight up "cp" but ok =)
[04:24] <dagobert> yay
[04:24] <haru> WorkingOnWise, i am out of ideas then .. sorry
[04:24] <eugo> what can i do?
[04:24] <makzu> Oh wait, never mind, it just burst forward again.
[04:24] <slackern> paq7512, yes, the regular one will let you try it out on a livecd and also let you install while you are in a graphical enviroment
[04:24] <haru> WorkingOnWise, u did delete the file tho, right?
[04:25] <eugo> i tried mounting it with nls=utf8
[04:25] <slackern> paq7512, the alternate has more options and can be used for installing if something doesn't work from the regular livecd
[04:25] <moss> i want to write ubuntu to a cd but its too large for a 650 mb cd
[04:25] <LordLimecat> unagi, ip addresses shouldnt be renewed unless youre restarting yer modem
[04:25] <Pseudoryx>  Anyone know how can I mount MDF and MDS image file? I've fail to do so by following many tutorials on internet. It'd be cool if there is GUI
[04:25] <moss> what can i do
[04:25] <squee> I'm trying to play something with mplayer and I'm getting "alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1242:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy"  Is there something I can do to force it to not be busy?
[04:25] <cdm10> moss: get a proper-sized CD
[04:25] <RoC_MasterMind> moss, buy a set of 700MB cd's?
[04:25] <tritium> moss: but a 700MB CD
[04:25] <unagi> if i upgrade to gutsy from feisty will i lose programs and settings?
[04:25] <BeOSMrX> would I be able to install ubuntu 'over' madriva 2007 spring and keep the home dir ?
[04:26] <tritium> s/but/buy ;)
[04:26] <avt> I cant find libglitz-glx1 in synaptic in dapper drake ubuntu why?????? did anyone see this?
[04:26] <moss> its too late right now
[04:26] <unagi> im not on a modem
[04:26] <moss> i wanted to install it tonight
[04:26] <moss> everywheres closed
[04:26] <moss> its 11:30
[04:26] <cdm10> moss: so install it tomorrow
[04:26] <unagi> though technically the cell phone is acting as a modem so technically it is restarted every time i disconnect
[04:26] <jdong> BeOSMrX: no, it is unsupported
[04:26] <moss> this sucks
[04:26] <Flyzoola> I'm having a problem accessing a folder in my computer. it says "You do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of 'folder'". I'm on the administrative account. Why is this happening?
[04:26] <BeOSMrX> jdong what's the best way then, if I want to keep my home folder
[04:26] <cdm10> moss: we can't help you fit a 680 MB ISO onto a 650 MB CD.
[04:26] <bulmer> BeOSMrX: if its in the separate partition that is supported file system yeah
[04:26] <unagi> may be a chmod problem fly
[04:26] <cdm10> moss: or see if the alternate cd is any smaller, it's a text-only install.
[04:26] <jdong> BeOSMrX: is it all on the same partition?
[04:26] <Flyzoola> unagi: what does that mean?
[04:27] <BeOSMrX> yes, same partittion
[04:27] <BeOSMrX> you know...
[04:27] <unagi> well i tend to have those problems when viewing ntfs systems when its not set up
[04:27] <ebirtaid> fn'Flyzoola: is it on an external drive?
[04:27] <ubuntero_numero1> hello everyone
[04:27] <unagi> what folder are you looking at or where did it come frome
[04:27] <liberion> Flyzoola, what system are u running ?
[04:27] <ebirtaid> or a windows partition'
[04:27] <jdong> BeOSMrX: do you have familiarity with how to mount the drive from the LiveCD?
[04:27] <BeOSMrX> i think it would be a better idea to back-up my home dir and then just wipe and install ubuntu 7
[04:27] <Flyzoola> I'm on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[04:27] <BeOSMrX> i have a hdd i can use and back-up my home dir
[04:27] <unagi> Flyzoola: did it come from an ntfs system?
[04:27] <flick> hi i wish to develop software for ubuntu, but i don't know where to start
[04:27] <bulmer> BeOSMrX: better yes
[04:27] <ubuntero_numero1> i am trying to install ubuntu on this machine and I get all the way through to the configuring apt screen and then it hangs on 40% anyone know how to pop up a console?
[04:27] <Flyzoola> it's also a folder inside my computer. It's the icecast2 folder
[04:28] <jdong> BeOSMrX: if you can back up your home dir, that's the best way of doing it
[04:28] <unagi> alt + f ubuntero_numero1
[04:28] <ebirtaid> a folder inside your computer...?
[04:28] <unagi> f2
[04:28] <ubuntero_numero1> unagi, thanks man
[04:28] <jdong> BeOSMrX: otherwise, you can mount your existing partition from the livecd, rm -rf all subdirs but /home, and then unmount it, then tell the installer not to format the partition
[04:28] <unagi> no prob
[04:28] <Flyzoola> yes. /etc/icecast2
[04:28] <unagi> er well
[04:28] <jdong> BeOSMrX: obviously this alternative is extremely hackish and probably not a good idea unless you're trying to earn geek points :)
[04:28] <liberion> i see ubuntus naming convention is catchy animal names
[04:28] <BeOSMrX> is there a ubuntu DVD ?
[04:28] <unagi> i think the active terminal is f7 or f8
[04:28] <eugo> how can i get native characters to show up in linux?
[04:28] <Vampyric> What am I missing, Just did a clean 7.10 DVd install, compizmanager not in synaptics, and don't see Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, or Desktop Effects under preferences
[04:28] <ebirtaid> you're trying to access as root?
[04:28] <squee> I'm trying to play something with mplayer and I'm getting "alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1242:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy"  Is there something I can do to force it to not be busy?
[04:28] <ubuntero_numero1> unagi, the mirrors must be getting hammered
[04:29] <Veinor> liberion: yep. We're just waiting until Aasimov's Aardvark
[04:29] <Flyzoola> ebirtaid: what does that mean? access as root?
[04:29] <unagi> if i upgrade to gutsy from feisty will i lose programs and settings?
[04:29] <WorkingOnWise> haru: actually....the file doesn't exist to delete...but I think automatix may be the culprit....I'll know in a few minutes....
[04:29] <liberion> Veinor, omg
[04:29] <juanbond> When I try to enable normal visual effects, I get "The Composite extension is not available" ... What does that mean?
[04:29] <snadge> is there a known problem with not being able to browse the web from 7.10 .. but can ping and dhcp has allocated ip/gateway/dns.. windows works fine on same machine
[04:29] <dryrot> squee: does your sound work at all?  and are you using gnome (ubuntu)
[04:29] <Veinor> unagi: not unless you're doing a blank install
[04:29] <slackern> BeOSMrX, Yes there is one, It has options to run as livecd, doing a server install and also doing a textbased install, like all the cd's in one.
[04:29] <crdlb> juanbond, install xserver-xgl
[04:29] <Veinor> i.e., complete install from a gutsy CD
[04:29] <BeOSMrX> sweet, what's the folder name ?
[04:29] <ebirtaid> fn'Flyzoola: your user account can't write to /etc you need to use sudo
[04:29] <haru> WorkingOnWise, it does for me :|
[04:29] <dryrot> snadge: try accessing the web the hard way.  what happens if you 'telnet www.google.com 80'
[04:29] <crdlb> juanbond, that will allow you to use compiz, because your video drivers don't support running it on Xorg
[04:29] <squee> dryrot:  It worked a while ago.  I am using gnome
[04:30] <LordLimecat> unagi: i cant answer that for sure yet, but i doubt it, i think most settings are stored in .programname folders in your home folder, i doubt the upgrade would delete it
[04:30] <Madpilot> unagi, no. but if you keep on ban-evading, you'll loose access to #ubuntu.
[04:30] <squee> dryrot:  I've had this happen in the past and it will work after I restart, but there has to be a better solution
[04:30] <inigomontoya> hello
[04:30] <dryrot> squee: does your sound work right now?  try System->Preferences->Sound and see if it works
[04:30] <juanbond> thank you crdlb!
[04:30] <inigomontoya> are the repositories down or something?
[04:30] <Flyzoola> ebirtaid: can you explain that to me? I'm a lunix n00b. this is only my 3rd day using it
[04:30] <jimmyww_> "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0"
[04:30] <unagi> dammit.....my cruise ship is getting ready to leave
[04:30] <snadge> dryrot: i have to reboot into gutsy to test it.. im in windows again, since its networking is working
[04:30] <jdong> inigomontoya: extremely busy, and slow....
[04:30] <Veinor> inigomontoya: just being hit very hard right now; give them a while.
[04:30] <unagi> bah i have to work in an hour anyway
[04:30] <RoC_MasterMind> inigomontoya, no but us.archive.ubuntu.com is slow
[04:31] <squee> dryrot:  that does not work.  It says something about not being able to write to the device
[04:31] <unagi> jimmyww_:  ususally means bad or scratched disk
[04:31] <moss> the text based install is 693 mb
[04:31] <slackern> BeOSMrX, sorry slow access to the servers right now so it might be best if you go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com yourself and find it, or find a good mirror site for it.
[04:31] <WorkingOnWise> haru: I know it should...Automatix is successfully installing some fonts now...We'll see if it will put things right.
[04:31] <inigomontoya> veinor, jdong, thanks i was wondering if it was my problem or not
[04:31] <LordLimecat> anyone having issues upgrading due to repository slowness, try torrenting the alternate install cd, burning it, and sticking it in
[04:31] <abcde_> Is azureus buggy since gutsy for anyone else?  as in it crashes
[04:31] <ebirtaid> you're trying to edit a config file right?
[04:31] <jdong> jimmyww_: can you do a media check?
[04:31] <cdm10> omg, automatix?
[04:31] <LordLimecat> the torrent speeds are incredible, i maxxed out my 16meg line
[04:31] <ubuntero_numero1> snadge, did you verify your network settings are correct with ifconfig -a ?
[04:31] <MasterShrek> so im planning on buying a pcmcia wireless card for this old laptop i have that im gonna give to my mom, anyone know of a good card thats ubuntu-friendly out-of-the-box?
[04:31] <tritium> unagi: you think that's an excuse for your behavior?
[04:31] <erat123> does anyone know the name of a widget that acts like the fisheye panel in mac os X?
[04:31] <cdm10> abcde_: it's been buggy forever, try Deluge, it's much nicer.
[04:31] <jimmyww_> jdong, how
[04:31] <jdong> abcde_: see bug 68020
[04:31] <dryrot> squee: try changing your sound device in System->Preferences->Sound .  also are you in the 'audio' group?  try 'group YOURLOGINNAMEHERE'
[04:31] <avt> I have to do this when offline and from the live cd lol http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[04:31]  * liberion glad hes not upgrading right now
[04:31] <jdong> jimmyww_: should be a bootup option
[04:31] <unagi> what are you talking about
[04:31] <avt> yes?
[04:31] <dryrot> squee: i mean 'groups' not group
[04:31] <jimmyww_> okay will do
[04:31] <BeOSMrX> slackern - i can use this ftp://ftp.telus.net/pub/ubuntu/7.10/ but which is the DVD download, they down show iso size
[04:32] <puff> I have a laptop, thinkpad t43p, with a VGA-out as well as the laptop screen.  I was just reading about Gutsy and it said there's improved VGA-out support.  I'm wondering if it's possible to drive a second monitor via the VGA-out and have a different workspace on the second monitor.
[04:32] <anandanbu> I m facing a strange problem with ubuntu 7.10 when i logged in now as http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9554/gnomeerrorjp6.png and the theme also has been changed
[04:32] <unagi> and why are you trying to instigate something that happened 15 minutes ago and isnt even an issue
[04:32] <inigomontoya> i'm looking to get mencoder, is that package i need named mencoder or is it a part of mplayer?
[04:32] <squee> dryrot:  It isn't a group issue.  using mplayer as root doesn't work either
[04:32] <Flyzoola> ebirtaid: can you explain that to me? I'm a lunix n00b. this is only my 3rd day using it
[04:32] <Sivik> mencoder is its own packages
[04:32] <Madpilot> WorkingOnWise, automatix is better at breaking things than at 'putting them right'
[04:32] <dryrot> squee: are you in the audio group?
[04:32] <Veinor> after aasimov's aardvark, we will naturally have Abstract Abo Bat
[04:32] <dotjay> i installed ubuntu gustu
[04:32] <squee> dryrot:  yes
[04:32] <dotjay> iam unable to install screenlets in it
[04:32] <abcde_> cdm10, does deluge do RSS?  or have a ip-range blocking plugin?
[04:33] <tritium> unagi: ban-evading _is_ an issue
[04:33] <dryrot> squee: can you play test sounds in the sound control panel ?
[04:33] <slackern> BeOSMrX, that mirror doesn't seem to have a DVD, i got mine via a torrent file from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <unagi> im not evading
[04:33] <squee> dryrot:  no
[04:33] <cdm10> abcde_: rss yes, i think. not sure about ip blocking
[04:33] <WorkingOnWise> Madpilot: yeah...but since apt is already broke.....
[04:33] <cdm10> unagi: they banned you, and you're back, that's called evading...
[04:33] <unagi> i keep losing service and have to reconnect.....open up xchat to join #compiz-fusion and ubuntu automatically pops up
[04:33] <unagi> sorry let me leave and change my nick and come back
[04:33] <puff> Also, I have three emacs processes running, one of them appears hung, closing it via the GUI isn't working.  Any idea how I can tell which emacs process in "ps" is which?
[04:33] <cdm10> WorkingOnWise: automatix (ab)uses APT, so if it's broken, it won't work
[04:33] <unagi> would that make it better?
[04:33] <dotjay> how can i install screenlets from source
[04:34] <LordLimecat> unagi: i would just suggest leaving for a while to let everything cooldown
[04:34] <LordLimecat> just my 0.02
[04:34] <Flyzoola> con someone explain to me what sudo is and why I can't write to /etc from my user account? also, how do I access that folder if it says that I don't have the permission necessary?
[04:34] <unagi> he can cool down while im here
[04:34] <BeOSMrX> slackern I guess the CD is still good enough for me then, would it be ? i don't need anything anything
[04:34] <unagi> ::shrug::
[04:34] <slackern> BeOSMrX, hmm just a sec, i might have the .torrent file still on my system
[04:34] <BeOSMrX> anything special, at least
[04:34] <LordLimecat> unagi: he has power to ban, tho, and you dont, thats why thats my advice
[04:34] <WorkingOnWise> cdm10: shhhhhh. my dilusion is that Automatix will do good and not evil....
[04:34] <dryrot> unagi: you should go to work and come back later when you're less of an asshole.  perhaps when you graduate high school
[04:34] <liberion> oh boy and ibe got to service this gutsy gibbon now !
[04:34] <liberion> ive
[04:34] <LordLimecat> if he really wants you gone he can ban yer subnet
[04:34] <unagi> !ohmy
[04:34] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:34] <unagi> ban dryrot
[04:34] <slackern> BeOSMrX, just let me check and i'll give it to you
[04:34] <LordLimecat> and then you WONT come back
[04:34] <unagi> he has bad potty mouth
[04:34] <VeganCheesesteak> Im getting Grub error 18 on boot with gutsy. i had the same partition setup with fiesty.. what gives?
[04:34] <abcde_> jdong, so the only solution is azureus 2.5?
[04:35] <LordLimecat> but yer free to ignore my advice, just trying to help
[04:35] <Sivik> !aclocal
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aclocal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <dryrot> squee: there's a command to let the alsa utilities to go out and figure out which sound card it should be using, i think
[04:35] <Flyzoola> can someone explain to me what sudo is and why I can't write to /etc from my user account? also, how do I access that folder if it says that I don't have the permission necessary?
[04:35] <unagi> well seeing as how my cruise ship moves constantly
[04:35] <jdong> abcde_: solution seems unclear... I have a manually installed azureus in ~/home/local
[04:35] <dryrot> squee: did your sound ever work ?
[04:35] <dotjay> wher can i get some help for my problem
[04:35] <unagi> i dont think banning a subnet will work either
[04:35] <unagi> but my point is im not causing a problem so why is it an issue
[04:35] <CITguy> VeganCheesesteak: are you dual booting?
[04:35] <Sivik> dotjay: what is your problem?
[04:35] <slackern> BeOSMrX, i found it, will put it on a server and pm you the link
[04:35] <jdong> abcde_: but it is a known issue that azureus with default Java is unstable, it's better with Sun Java, best when gotten from azureus's site
[04:35] <dotjay> i cant install screenlets in gusty
[04:36] <squee> dryrot:  Yes.  It worked just a while ago.  There is some command to release all of the audio devices but i can't remember it
[04:36] <VeganCheesesteak> CITguy: yes. Vista is first partition.... partitions are vista, swap, linux
[04:36] <BeOSMrX> slackern
[04:36] <BeOSMrX> DCC is fine
[04:36] <abcde_> jdong, so I should install Sun Java from azureus' site?
[04:36] <dryrot> squee: what happens if you restart alsa ?
[04:36] <jdong> abcde_: no, sun java is "sun-java6-jre" in Ubuntu
[04:36] <Sivik> CITguy, ok, clean install, what do i need to do along with the drivers from nvidia to get the video stuff working correctly
[04:36] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, theres an error when grub was written so you havta log into that parttion and edit the /boot/grub/menu.list
[04:36] <Flyzoola> con someone explain to me what sudo is and why I can't write to /etc from my user account? also, how do I access that folder if it says that I don't have the permission necessary?
[04:36] <jdong> abcde_: in fact, if you pull in the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package then it will pull in Java
[04:36] <dotjay> i downloaded the file tried installing it as per the given istructions but i aint gettin any thing in that
[04:36] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: how can i do that?
[04:36] <BeOSMrX> slackern is your firewall set for outgoing dcc ?
[04:36] <TECH_1> unagi:  continually protecting your plastick(ness)..is appalling.
[04:36] <jimmyww_> jdong, i did the thing u said and got the same error
[04:36] <jdong> abcde_: afterwards, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and select the Java with sun in the path
[04:37] <unagi> flyzoola chmod can do it i just dont remember which  number is.....but typically you dont wanna do it anyway
[04:37] <unagi> plastickness?
[04:37] <CITguy> VeganCheesesteak: there's your problem. Vista will hide the partition and grub isn't able to find the partition.
[04:37] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: sudo allows you toto run a command as the admin user
[04:37] <dotjay> Sivik: you there?
[04:37] <jdong> unagi: DO NOT chmod /etc to be user writeable
[04:37] <spezticle> ubuntu forums has a list of compatable wireless cards and mine is listed, yet i'm being told by the system that signal strength is 0% and it will not connect. anyone have insight as to why?
[04:37] <Sivik> dotjay: yes, whats up, i must have missed it
[04:37] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, what is your partion name where u have the / of ubuntu ?
[04:37] <unagi> thats what i just said
[04:37] <parsek> I can install Kubuntu but not Ubuntu, ubuntu hangs at creating file system, what might be the problem?
[04:37] <LordLimecat> yea, is it normal for vista partitions to not be resizeable? did MS change something with NTFS?
[04:37] <darkcrab> where is the link that says how many more months of updates feisty has?
[04:37] <jdong> Flyzoola: sudo is a way to escalate a single command to root access. For editing configuration files, you need to run "sudo name_of_editor /etc/file/to/edit"
[04:37] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyfox: and by default only the admin has permisison to write to /etc because it contains important stuff
[04:37] <dystopianray> spezticle: ignoring the signal strength, does it still work?
[04:37] <dryrot> vista partitions are not resizeable?  really ?
[04:37] <j_ack> squee,   alsaconf list ?
[04:37] <RoC_MasterMind> darkcrab, it has 18.
[04:37] <unagi> LordLimecat: i have resized mine before it just matters where on the table it is
[04:37] <VeganCheesesteak> CITguy: well i had fiesty on previously no probs..i try to clean install over
[04:37] <slackern> BeOSMrX, hmm sorry doesn't seem like it, but i got it on the server now, just moving it to the webfolder
[04:38] <darkcrab> thank you Roc.:)
[04:38] <RoC_MasterMind> darkcrab, oh...I mean 12.
[04:38] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion:  3rd partiion of sda
[04:38] <LordLimecat> darkcrab: i think they have another year, seeing as its been 6 months since its release
[04:38] <iobelisk> parsek, i just had the same problem. it is likely that you are allocating more disk space to the partitions than your hard disk contains
[04:38] <squee> dryrot:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restarts but still doesn't work
[04:38] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, so sda3??
[04:38] <RoC_MasterMind> darkcrab, each  normal release is for 18 months.
[04:38] <abcde_> jdong, there are two with sun, 1.5 and 6
[04:38] <LordLimecat> unagi: a vista partition, or an ntfs one?
[04:38] <spezticle> no, it does not it will try to connect to my network, after a minute or so, just quits and says no network connectivity
[04:38] <darkcrab> ok thanks
[04:38] <unagi> vista
[04:38] <LordLimecat> huh
[04:38] <jdong> abcde_: get the 1.6 one
[04:38] <unagi> im running vista at the moment
[04:38] <iobelisk> i suggest opening up partition editor from system/administrative and creating/editing file aprtitions from there
[04:38] <squee> j_ack:  alsaconf list?
[04:38] <CITguy> sivik: run       sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev linux-headers-`uname -r` xorg-dev make
[04:38] <dryrot> unagi: people put up with deliberately being annoying in #perl . you should go hang out there instead
[04:38] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: um yes i guess so
[04:38] <jdong> abcde_: faster, fewer memory leaks
[04:38] <Bax> what's the command to search for a file in a specific directory through the terminal?
[04:38] <unagi> what did i say that was annoying
[04:38] <LordLimecat> interesting, good to know
[04:38] <Flyzoola> so, how do I access the folder? It says that i don't have the necessary permission to access my own folder. I've looked online for help on setting up my icecast2, but for x or y variables, it doesn't seem to work
[04:38] <parsek> iobelisk, how come? i don't think so
[04:38] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, download slackware disc 1 and ill show u how to fix ubuntu
[04:38] <unagi> just answering peoples questions
[04:38] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: so using sudo vi /etc/.. is a good way to remind you to be careful and it prevents applications you run as a normal user from messing around in there
[04:39] <tritium> unagi: just drop it
[04:39] <dotjay> sivik: how can i install screenlets from trbz
[04:39] <abcde_> jdong, 1.6 isn't in the "--config java" list
[04:39] <unagi> what did i do?!
[04:39] <LordLimecat> o.0 what is he doing
[04:39] <iobelisk> go to partition editor from the systems menu and see how much space it detects on your hard drive
 unagi: people put up with deliberately being annoying in #perl . you should go hang out there instead
[04:39] <jdong> abcde_: did you install sun-java6-jre?
[04:39] <parsek> iobelisk, i followed the same thing but Kubuntu works
[04:39] <Sivik> dotjay: i have no clue what a trbz file is nor do i know what screenlets is
[04:39] <exla> Yo, just installed xubuntu and when im trying to install xhcat it says  Depency is not  satisfable
[04:39] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: if i just mount the disc should i be able to fix?
[04:39] <dryrot> you should!  people spend YEARS being annoying in #perl , they're still there
[04:39] <iobelisk> it is likely it will be different from what the wizard detects.
[04:39] <Sivik> darn archive.ubuntu.com repos
[04:39] <jdong> dryrot, unagi , enough...
[04:39] <cdm10> LordLimecat: isn't vista ntfs?
[04:39] <j_ack> squee, alsaconf list  show your soundcards
[04:39] <dotjay> Sivik:tarbalz
[04:39] <LordLimecat> dryrot: did i miss something, he was answering my question
[04:39] <tritium> dryrot: please, you're not helping either
[04:39] <unagi> i didnt do a friggent hing
[04:39] <unagi> jesus christ
[04:39] <unagi> why is everyone all over me
[04:40] <mr_wang> why is the update manger running so damn slow
[04:40] <Flyzoola> magicrobotmonkey: so I should just type in sudo vi /etc/icecast2 on the terminal?
[04:40] <RoC_MasterMind> Sivik, change your repo if you want.
[04:40] <LordLimecat> cdm10: i would ASSUME so, but given their undocumented things to FAT, and their changes to CD standards....
[04:40] <cdm10> Sivik: System>Admin>Software Sources, then go to mirror, then other, then choose best
[04:40] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: try gksudo gedit /etc/../file
[04:40] <jshufelt_> unagi: cause your amusing
[04:40] <LordLimecat> cant be sure
[04:40] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, are u in ubuntu right now then?or when u try to get in u get grub load error
[04:40] <jdong> mr_wang: update servers are under extremely heavy traffic
[04:40] <parsek> iobelisk, is there a way to install Ubuntu in this case?
[04:40] <CITguy> mr_wang: everybody's trying to update at the same time
[04:40] <Bax> what's the terminal command to search for a file in a specific directory?
[04:40] <Sivik> RoC_MasterMind, i have already changed it like 20 times today and its still being stupid
[04:40] <squee> j_ack:  "alsaconf list" returns command not found
[04:40] <LordLimecat> er......did i miss something, looked like dryrot just instigated problems with unagi
[04:40] <mr_wang> get more severs.
[04:40] <TECH_1> Because your wilfully arrogance is uncalled for. (unagi)
[04:40] <abcde_> jdong, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java has a *+ next to it, and the others don't, so I'd assume so
[04:40] <jshufelt_> took me 8 hours to update 7.04 today
[04:40] <LordLimecat> and unagi got the blame
[04:40] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion:  i cant boot from hd..but i can bring up the live cd
[04:40] <Sivik> cdm10, not gnome and i do it from command line
[04:40] <jdong> abcde_: that's good, that's all you want :)
[04:40] <stiev3> hmm making my window decoration command "emerald" has failed me, however terminalling "emerald --replace" works.  So to get it going on startup, should I go the route of adding "emerald --replace" to startup programs?
[04:40] <CITguy> mr_wang: be patient
[04:40] <jdong> abcde_: just wanted to make sure installing sun java defaults to it :)
[04:40] <anabelle> i try to open strigi, and it opens uo kate :(
[04:40] <jpastore> hey what happened to the sysconfig dir in gutsy?
[04:41] <alain> same here jshufelt_
[04:41] <cdm10> Sivik: well, you'll have to try different mirrors until you get a fast one.
[04:41] <qanw> hey - is there a way to get feisty versions of *specific* packages from gutsy?  the haskell (ghc) packages are not completely upgraded so this has lead to compatibility issues
[04:41] <dotjay> sivik: any idea in completing the installation
[04:41] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, can u write with the boot disc or is it read only ??
[04:41] <alain> server is realy crowded
[04:41] <j_ack> squee, asoundconf list    sorry
[04:41] <Sivik> dotjay: no, i have no clue
[04:41] <abcde_> jdong, now what do I do with azureus?  go to 2.5 or what?
[04:41] <mr_wang> i have been trying all night
[04:41] <CITguy> Sivik: did you get my reply
[04:41] <iobelisk> parsek, what does the partition editor under systems menu inform you of available and total disk space on your hard disk?
[04:41] <dotjay> ok no prob
[04:41] <jdong> abcde_: yes, get the latest version of azureus from their site
[04:41] <squee> j_ack:  returns "intel"
[04:41] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: let me see
[04:41] <dryrot> mr_wang: you could just use a different repo, are you downloading the iso?  you'll get the iso a lot faster if you use a torrent
[04:41] <mr_wang> it just sits there and does notting
[04:41] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: get yourself DELUGE, it's better Torrent Client
[04:41] <jshufelt_> damn... beckett just struck out #11
[04:41] <dotjay> Sivik have any idea regarding vmware installation?
[04:41] <j_ack> squee, have you set this card?
[04:41] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: get yourself DELUGE without the need of isntalling Java Run Time
[04:41] <unagi_> leave me alone jesus christ
[04:41] <jshufelt_> I love my cable card
[04:41] <unagi_> i didnt do a damn thing
[04:41] <Sivik> dotjay: what version?
[04:42] <localgod11> anyone have a clue how to get my windows to come off the cube ?
[04:42] <mr_wang> i downloaded the live cd... but i can't update using it.
[04:42] <cdm10> Pseudoryx: abcde_is into downloading illegal stuff and wants an IP blocker, which Deluge doesn't have.
[04:42] <Sivik> dotjay: i just normally follow the instructions from the vm website
[04:42] <Flyzoola> magicrobotmonkey: "Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."   Deluge doesn't have them from what I've been told.  I like the RSS reader, and built-in IP range blocking.
[04:42] <cdm10> unagi_: whether what you did was wrong is debatable, but arguing with ops and evading bans won't get you anywhere.
[04:42] <logreeval> haru: you still with me?
[04:42] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: ok i will download
[04:42] <iobelisk> you are installing kubuntu on a different partition or are you installing the desktop on the same gnome install?
[04:42] <LordLimecat> can everyone just not instigate problems?
[04:42] <parsek> iobelisk, what was yours, what did you do?
[04:42] <exhume> is this where i can report bugs in gutsey?
[04:43] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: up to you mate
[04:43] <haru> logreeval, yeah
[04:43] <Flyzoola> am I what?
[04:43] <unagi_> that sounds like a great idea LordLimecat
[04:43] <dotjay> Sivik yes
[04:43] <squee> j_ack:  I haven't dealt much with audio in linux so I dont know how to do that.
[04:43] <liberion> VeganCheesesteak, ok give me about 30 mins then ill ask u if uve got it ok
[04:43] <parsek> iobelisk, it didn't install Ubuntu, so I am installing kubuntu on the same partition
[04:43] <TECH_1> Thanks Madpilot.
[04:43] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: did it prompt you for a passwork?
[04:43] <j_ack> squee, first  asoundconf set       then       asoundconf set-default-card Intel
[04:43] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: er, pasword
[04:43] <Flyzoola> yeah, and I typed it
[04:43] <exhume> is this where i submit bug reports?
[04:43] <logreeval> haru: i have sound, everything works, but my Volume control doesnt work, and i hear this crackly sound when i go over buttons.....apparenlty C-media was a USB sound device...
[04:43] <exhume> for 7.10
[04:43] <exhume> ?
[04:43] <PurpZeY> Can someone recommend a WiFi network detector that will just tell me the channel (aka frequency) of those around me? I am not looking for a sniffer, I just want to see what the best channel for me is
[04:43] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion:  ok thank you
[04:43] <parsek> iobelisk, my partition #1:windows, #5:/, #6:/home, #7:swap
[04:44] <|neon|> to install vmware on gutsy you need "anyupdate" patch file
[04:44] <rredd4> I have the rc, and all of rhe updates.   When I apt get update, it says Release Candidate.  Do I have to manually edit that out or will future updates fix that?
[04:44] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: Deluge do have those Functions, similar plugin like rss reader and speed limit plugin
[04:44] <haru> logreeval, err yeah.. which is why asked if any sound devices are there T_T
[04:44] <qanw> hey - is there a way to get feisty versions of *specific* packages from gutsy?  the haskell (ghc) packages are not completely upgraded so this has lead to compatibility issues
[04:44] <abcde_> jdong, Downloaded and unpacked.  Now what?  Should I remove the apt-get installed one
[04:44] <logreeval> haru: you dont happen to know how to make the sound less sensitive, cause its annoying hearin a crackly sound everytime i go over a button
[04:44] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: did you use gksudo or just sudo?
[04:44] <jdong> abcde_: yes
[04:44] <shinynew_> can anyone tell me what i didnt wrong? I was trying to compile gtk 2.10.13, here is the error log - http://pastebin.com/d379759be
[04:44] <localgod11> anyone know how to make the windows float off the cube using CF?
[04:44] <jtt> PurpZeY, wifi-radar
[04:44] <haru> logreeval, rightclick the soundcontrol goto preferences and change it to C-Media too
[04:44] <Flyzoola> magicrobotmonkey: haha I've been trying to get this damn internet radio station working for the past 5 hours. I typed gksudo
[04:44] <jdong> abcde_: run ./azureus in that folter to start azureus
[04:44] <iobelisk> well, i had gutsy beta installed on a portion of my hdd, i was dual booting with windows. i did a reinstall today using the entire disk, deleting windows. i too got a partition failed error. when i went to the partition editor, i realised it was detecting a lower amount of total disk space. so i edited my partitions from there and then went back to the install wizard, it detected the new partitions, i gave them mount points from there, fo
[04:44] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: AZUREUS take too much time to install, and mucnh ram as well
[04:44] <jdong> abcde_: you can create launchers to the azureus files too
[04:44] <PurpZeY> jtt: Thanks.
[04:44] <jdong> Pseudoryx: both are relatively untrue
[04:45] <logreeval> haru: it just says USB device...and it doesnt really do anything :-
[04:45] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: you know how to use vi?
[04:45] <haru> haru, alternately use alsamixer
[04:45] <demon_spork> when running two X screens, is there any way to open a firefox window on each display?
[04:45] <jdong> Pseudoryx: Azureus deals fine here with about 150MB RAM usage including its built-in disk cache
[04:45] <haru> run alsamixer in terminal and change vol
[04:45] <squee> j_ack:  Nope : /
[04:45] <abcde_> Pseudoryx, I meant an IP range blocker.  I'd prefer to keep azureus, as I told the other person who said I should switch to deluge.  I like azureus.
[04:45] <jtt> PurpZeY, sure
[04:45] <jdong> Pseudoryx: I've been seeding 3 torrents today, totalling about 115GB transfers
[04:45] <Flyzoola> magicrobotmonkey: nope. like I said, this is my 3rd day on any linux based OS.
[04:45] <dotjay> i installed vmware workstation in ubunutu but iam unable to start it
[04:45] <Pumpitup>  when is first beta release of hardy coming out?
[04:46] <Wisteso> azureus is teh pwn
[04:46] <shinynew_> can anyone tell me what i didnt wrong? I was trying to compile gtk 2.10.13, here is the error log - http://pastebin.com/d379759be
[04:46] <snowdonkey> exhume: Go here to report bugs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:46] <logreeval> haru, i did, its on 2
[04:46] <Sivik> crappy due
[04:46] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: ok, try sudo nano /etc/icecast2
[04:46] <Flyzoola> ok
[04:46] <jshufelt_> well, looks like everyone is getting installs right...
[04:46] <jshufelt_> good luck.. good night
[04:46] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: Deluge have Block List function, allow you to block IP
[04:46] <abcde_> jdong, it still closes when I run that
[04:46] <iobelisk> wow, the servers really are busy today.
[04:46] <shinynew_> can anyone tell me what i didnt wrong? I was trying to compile gtk 2.10.13, here is the error log - http://pastebin.com/d379759be
[04:46] <parsek> iobelisk, I even deleted and recreated my / partition couple of times but nothing worked
[04:46] <Wisteso> it's in java and java is pwn
[04:46] <ademan> Wisteso: hahah
[04:46] <|neon|> dotjay: did you use the anyupade patc
[04:46] <Flyzoola> magicrobotmonkey: the terminal changed all weird. what is it?
[04:46] <jdong> abcde_: remove ~/.azureus (apparently the config dir causes crashing too)
[04:46] <Dan_L> Hey.  Dumb question:   Has anybody tried either feisty or gutsy on a Compaq FS730US?
[04:46] <Pseudoryx> abcde_: well it depends on personal taste I guess, I found deluge more simple and run fast
[04:46] <parsek> iobelisk, it stucks at 5% creating ext 3 file system
[04:46] <haru> logreeval, works?? btw in the preferences for the soundtray icon make sure.. speaker is selected
[04:47] <remer> there seems to be a problem with the ntfs writing implementation for 7.10, at least in the livecd
[04:47] <abcde_> Pseudoryx, it automatically blocks ranges, not manually.  I said I want azureus, can you please stop telling me to change.
[04:47] <iobelisk> yes parsek, i did that too. but the minute i stopped doing that from the install wizard and did it from the parttion editor it worked
[04:47] <TECH_1> I have one Question..When I installed (7.10)..my firewall keeps shutting down..why is that.
[04:47] <jdong> Pseudoryx: personal taste indeed... there's a lot of good torrent clients out there; he wants Azureus
[04:47] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: erm, perhaps thats not a text file, what directions are you trying to follow?
[04:47] <Sivik> 5 more repos that aren't working
[04:47] <dryrot> who was asking about scannning wireless networks?  you can use 'iwconfig'
[04:47] <iobelisk> yes, i had it stuck exactly at 5 percent too
[04:47] <logreeval> haru: sound works, volume control thingy doesnt...
[04:47] <un1x01d> my Xorg is always at 19.9% mem , i am using Xinerama on 3 monitors at 1920x1200 60Hz, is there anyway to optimize it ?
[04:47] <iobelisk> trust me, do as i say, and it will work.
[04:47] <iobelisk> use the partition editor from the system menu to edit your partitions.
[04:47] <remer> when i delete files from windows while in the livecd, it does not update the amount of space i have left
[04:47] <RoC_MasterMind> Sivik, did you try uk.archive.ubuntu.com?  I had luck with that earlier todya.
[04:47] <dotjay> |neon|: no i installed it from the tarbz
[04:47] <haru> logreeval, right click vol control.. make sure ur card is selected and speaker is also seleceted
[04:47] <ademan> anyone else have problems where the gutsy liveCD throws around "input/output error"s or "bus error"s?  Because i can hardly launch anything within it, oh yeah, and the gnome-settings-daemon refused to start this time around, wtf is wrong?
[04:47] <Wisteso> a torrent program that runs fast...    that's like wanting a 64-bit word processor
[04:47] <cdm10> remer: it probably put them in the trash
[04:48] <remer> i checked, it didnt
[04:48] <parsek> iobelisk, hmm, when i goto partition editor, I can not unmount it, and it crashes
[04:48] <remer> the files are gone from windows
[04:48] <theacolyte> For importing windows settings, do you have to reformat the drive that windows is installed on?
[04:48] <cdm10> remer: check the trash on the lower right, and also check out the hidden .Trash-something folder on the windows partition
[04:48] <WorkingOnWise> haru: will you pastebin your /var/lib/dpkg/available file please?
[04:48] <Sivik> still sitting waiting on headers
[04:48] <shinynew_> can anyone tell me what i didnt wrong? I was trying to compile gtk 2.10.13, here is the error log - http://pastebin.com/d379759be
[04:48] <KaiserRo> Hey guys, I've got a serious problem.  I'm new to the whole unix thing and I was trying to install Beryl on ubuntu 7.10.  It asked for me to restart, but now I can't get my monitor to display anything...even my bios startup information.  Anyone have any idea whats up?
[04:48] <|neon|> dotjay: did you get any errors while installing from the vnet module?
[04:48] <Wisteso> torrents are slow but stable, speed is not necessary, and azureus is extremely simple unless you go into advanced mode
[04:48] <logreeval> haru: it is, but it doesnt work :-\
[04:48] <cdm10> theacolyte: no
[04:48] <Evanlec> Wisteso, hey where's the 64-bit word processor? ;o
[04:48] <dotjay> no it installed perfectly
[04:48] <haru> logreeval, thats weird.. works for me
[04:48] <theacolyte> cdm10: odd, it won't pick up any acoucnts -- not a big deal, just curious
[04:48] <Back2Basics> does ubuntu have a flash player that works (in 32 bit emulation) on a 64 bit machine?
[04:48] <remer> im in windows now, but it still reports it as having less disk space than there actually is
[04:49] <cdm10> theacolyte: yeah, sometimes it doesn't work right...
[04:49] <abcde_> jdong, it crashes when I'm trying to install a plugin.  I'll try 2.5
[04:49] <theacolyte> Got it
[04:49] <dotjay> |neon|:the only thing went wrong might be i din configure it for the first time
[04:49] <theacolyte> No biggie
[04:49] <remer> and the recycle bin is empty
[04:49] <logreeval> haru: i know, this set up seems buggy :-
[04:49] <jdong> abcde_: ok; I'm using 2.5 and it seems to work fine on my machine...
[04:49] <TECH_1> Back2Basics..U have to use firefox 32 bit.
[04:49] <cdm10> remer: no, not the windows recycle bin
[04:49] <cdm10> remer: the ubuntu recycle bin
[04:49] <dotjay> |neon|: from where can i access the file?
[04:49] <iobelisk> is your kubuntu install via apt-get or is it thru the cdrom?
[04:49] <cdm10> remer: check c:\.Trash-something
[04:49] <Sivik> now its working
[04:49] <Back2Basics> TECH_1, i've got that on fedora... it doesn't work.
[04:49] <episodic> anyone recommend a good screen capture program better than what comes with ubuntu?
[04:49] <Sivik> fedora blows
[04:49] <TECH_1> Interesting..sorry
[04:49] <dredhammer> can someone explain to me why i cannot edit the background color of gedit in Gutsy i go to set the preferences and all i see are four background color themes
[04:50] <Sivik> episodic, gimp
[04:50] <magicrobotmonkey> episodic: xvidcap
[04:50] <dredhammer> i can't customize like i could in feisty, edgy and dapper
[04:50] <remer> ooooo ok, it didnt show up in the trash in ubuntu, but it shows up here thx
[04:50] <cdm10> episodic: screenshot, or screen video thingy?
[04:50] <Sivik> yeah for uk repos
[04:50] <Sivik> their fast too
[04:50] <parsek> iobelisk, how did you correct the partition from partition editor? what did you do?
[04:50] <logreeval> haru: oh, its ujust crackly in the sound jack i guess
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> !ccsm
[04:50] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Gutsy(7.10) install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' - A new option will appear in your appearance properties - see also !compiz
[04:50] <cyph3x_> would anyone know by chance how DDO would run in wine?
[04:50] <episodic> screen shot
[04:50] <haru> :)
[04:51] <|neon|> dotjay: i had a similar situaation i used the ./vmware-install.pl and it went thru the install however it it did not work properly until i installed the anyupdate patch
[04:51] <episodic> I was just looking ad xvidcap site it is video
[04:51] <magicrobotmonkey> logreeval: i had some crackly sound and switched to oss
[04:51] <juanbond> is there a gutsy commercial repo?
[04:51] <cdm10> episodic: what are you looking for that ubuntu doesn't have?
[04:51] <magicrobotmonkey> episodic: yea, sorry, misunderstood
[04:51] <Wisteso> DDO?
[04:51] <cdm10> episodic: *the ubuntu screenshot thingy
[04:51] <abcde_> jdong, does 2.5 do plugins?
[04:51] <scales> hey all, what are the best drivers for an ati radeon 9700?
[04:51] <RoC_MasterMind> juanbond, it's called partner, read release notes
[04:51] <episodic> something that will hover and give me toolbar
[04:51] <logreeval> magicrobotmonkey: i guess the sound is just the jack...
[04:51] <TechnoViking> juanbond: yes
[04:51] <juanbond> check thanks RoC_MasterMind
[04:51] <jdong> abcde_: it certainly does
[04:51] <Journeyman> hey what  are some nice icon trays like in mac OS X
[04:51] <episodic> and let me do multiple snaps that i can save that are user selectable
[04:51] <KeithWeisshar> is the torrent from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent official?
[04:52] <iobelisk> well, i had the live cd session going on, so none of my other drives were mounted. i exited the install wizard. i opened up partition wizard from systems menu. i first deleted all partitions. then i created new ones as per my desire. and it worked.
[04:52] <Journeyman> I know I have seen some but can't remember their names
[04:52] <magicrobotmonkey> Journeyman: avant-window-navigator
[04:52] <dotjay> |neon|: but i dont have any such sought of file in my extracted file
[04:52] <jtt> Pumpitup, schedule shows only one beta  march 27 2008  5 alphas prior to that
[04:52] <KeithWeisshar> is the torrent from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent a final version
[04:52] <abcde_> jdong, I don't see the "install plugins" option.  How do I install them?
[04:52] <|neon|> dotjay: wait one
[04:52] <DerangedDingo> KeithWeisshar: The URL says it all
[04:52] <CoasterMaster> KeithWeisshar, yes it is
[04:52] <Wisteso> cyph3x_: most people don't know what DDO is....    but dont expect it to run well
[04:52] <RoC_MasterMind> KeithWeisshar, yeah.
[04:52] <dotjay> |neon|:sure
[04:52] <quaal> HEY
[04:52] <quaal> servers slow
[04:52] <quaal> fix plz
[04:52] <parsek> iobelisk, I used cfdisk instead of partition editor
[04:52] <Flyzoola> what is the best software on ubuntu to broadcast a live radio? I've been at this for 6 hours haha. Anybody know? or any good tutorials? I just want to stream live MP3s
[04:52] <jblp> Man..
[04:52] <jblp> Everything is slow today
[04:53] <Pumpitup> jtt>ahh well guess ill have to wait :)
[04:53] <episodic> lol, i guess i will just continue to use mwsnap in wine :P
[04:53] <Back2Basics> KeithWeisshar, anything linux related will never be a "final" version.
[04:53] <ademan> Flyzoola: like on the internet? wouldn't icecast work well?
[04:53] <arang2> guys is it true that 2.6.22(gutsy) has an speed boost on SATA compared to 2.6.20 in feisty?
[04:53] <iobelisk> for all of you guys having problems with downloading stuff from the server, please go and try an alternative server. test the best one via the wizard. it might work.
[04:53] <remer> quit thank you so much
[04:53] <dystopianray> arang2: no
[04:53] <jdong> abcde_: hmm the option should be in there
[04:53] <Wisteso> cyph3x: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4709
[04:53] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: icecast is probably your best bet, you're going to have to figure out the configuration for *Any* of them
[04:53] <Vlet> Or use a torrent! :)
[04:53] <jtt> Pumpitup, are you going to gutsy?
[04:53] <Kanti> whats the link to the wizard?
[04:53] <iobelisk> parsek, i did not use cfdisk. so i am not sure about that.
[04:53] <DerangedDingo> Journeyman: Go with AWN. Kiba-Dock is overrated.  Any good tutorials for how to get it working?
 been on it for a while now
[04:53] <mrunagi_> if i dist upgrade will i lose programs and settings?
[04:53] <iobelisk> why don't you try the partition editor if cfdisk did not work for you?
[04:53] <dotjay> |neon|: ah sorry |neon| i have that file and that was the file from which i installed vmware
[04:53] <openbysource> guys i have installed the boot loader (grub) manually. i have written the appropriate entries for gutsy in the boot file. it's working now. what should i write in the kernel line so it shows graphical boot and not text messages ?
[04:53] <dystopianray> mrunagi_: no
[04:54] <krank> What's the main difference between the DVD and CD iso?
[04:54] <magicrobotmonkey> Flyzoola: did you check ubuntuforums?
[04:54] <XsteelWolf> WHat's the inititate button
[04:54] <mrunagi_> what happens with my compiz-fusion stuff
[04:54] <dystopianray> krank: dvd has livecd + alternate + languages + packages
[04:54] <DerangedDingo> openbysource: the option "splash"
[04:54] <mrunagi_> will it conflict with gutsy's desktop effects?
[04:54] <parsek> iobelisk, it will do the samething but I can try
[04:54] <ademan> Flyzoola: unfortunately i don't know much about it other than it's supposed to be the best...
[04:54] <parsek> right now kubuntu installation finished
[04:54] <jdong> krank: DVD has more packages
[04:54] <openbysource> just write splash at the end of the kernel line DerangedDingo ?
[04:54] <jtt> Pumpitup, ahh great me too but only on desktops have to keep my laptop stable for work related activities
[04:54] <abcde_> jdong, where is it?  under what option?
[04:54] <Flyzoola> I'll look into it more. Thanks guys
[04:54] <CoasterMaster> !torrents
[04:54] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[04:54] <jdong> krank: more suitable for those without an internet connection
[04:54] <ademan> Flyzoola: i figure there are probably tutorials you can get to from google, or maybe a #icecast channel here
[04:54] <TECH_1> 7.10:..The browser has the built in add ons..flash/java/atc
[04:54] <ademan> ergh
[04:54] <krank> DVD worth getting I suppose
[04:55] <|neon|> dotjay: you have to download vmware any update separetaly and run the runme.pl file
[04:55] <mrunagi_> anyone know what happens if you already have compiz-fusion installed and you upgrade?
[04:55] <teKnofreak> i am on feisty and there are some updates, should i do it before doing an dist-upgrade to gutsy or can i just proceed to gutsy ?
[04:55] <localgod11> anyone know how to get my winows to float off the cube?
[04:55] <rredd4> can I tile windows in xchat when I am in multiple rooms?  How please
[04:55] <jdong> krank: I personally have a fast network connection so I just get the CD
[04:55] <KaiserRo> Hey guys, I've got a serious problem.  I'm new to the whole unix thing and I was trying to install Beryl on ubuntu 7.10.  It asked for me to restart, but now I can't get my monitor to display anything...even my bios startup information.  Anyone have any idea whats up?
[04:55] <dotjay> |neon|: i din get you
 what kind of work are u into if u dont mind me asking
[04:55] <Journeyman> is there a repository for awn
[04:55] <mrunagi_> localgod11: i think its 3d windows or something
[04:55] <ixian_> Hey, I have the release candidate of ubuntu 7.10 and it says there are no updates available. shouldn't it update to the final release? or is there something else i have to do?
[04:55] <dotjay> where can i get those files
[04:55] <dryrot> KaiserRo: I thought Beryl doesn't exist anymore
[04:55] <iobelisk> yes, people downloading the iso's should use torrents. people having trouble updating repositories, can try a different server.
[04:55] <DerangedDingo> openbysource: I believe so. I removed my usplash option because usplash never worked on my system... if it was still there I'd check
[04:55] <openbysource> ok
[04:55] <cyph3x_> how would i rename my bloody name in IRC? its driving me insane?
[04:55] <jdong> abcde_: err,, plugins -> Installation Wizard?
[04:55] <Vlet> ixian_: try running sudo update-manager -d
[04:56] <jtt> Pumpitup, i am a storage engineer for Sun Microsystems mostly SAN work
[04:56] <fujin> cyph3x_: /nick
[04:56] <RogueShadow> 40 minutes for torrent... 4 hours for dist upgrade option... I went torrent.
[04:56] <DShepherd> cyph3x_, /nick newname
 woow that sounds important
[04:56] <mrtherevernd> i can't seem to get my touchpad to work
[04:56] <Wisteso> ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386 downloaded via torrent in 10 minutes...   wow
[04:56] <mrunagi_> ok well i have to get going everyone..........have a great evening
[04:56] <|neon|> dotjay: vmware any update patch is not part of the vmware files someone did some work and came up with that patch because of the compilation errors by the vmnet module do a search in google
[04:56] <CoasterMaster> does the DVD have the nice in LiveCD desktop installer?
[04:56] <jebblue> localgod11 Visual Effects, 3D effects
[04:56] <dn4> RogueShadow, how do oyu do the torrent style upgrade?
[04:56] <mrunagi_> ::waves::
[04:56] <abcde_> jdong, that is what I thought.  Guess it isn't there for some reason, I'll look around.  Thanks.
[04:56] <KeithWeisshar> why is the dvd torrent slow
[04:56] <KaiserRo> dryrot:  well I was following some tutorial trying to get it going.  It asked me to edit some stuff about my graphics card drivers.  Is it possible I actually killed my card?
[04:56] <jebblue> localgod11 window depth
[04:56] <mrtherevernd> i can click but can't move the pointer
[04:56] <magicrobotmonkey> Journeyman: yea, just give it a google
[04:56] <_6StringKng_> downloading the torrent right now, wish I had a blank cd >.<
[04:56] <jtt> Pumpitup, yes one step above the building janitor :)
[04:56] <ademan> does the livecd use existing swap space if it detects it on the computer?
[04:56] <KeithWeisshar> i'm only getting 20kb/sec
[04:56] <Wisteso> 10 freaking minutes
[04:56] <Wisteso> wow
[04:56] <CoasterMaster> dn4, if you download the alternate CD, you can use it to upgrade
[04:56] <jdong> ademan: it does
[04:56] <RogueShadow> dn4: I'm just going to install it like I normally would, nothing to lose for me.
[04:57] <cyph3x_> it says that its in use??
[04:57] <_6StringKng_> gettin like 180KB
[04:57] <dotjay> |neon|: ya sure ill give it a try
[04:57] <Vlet> dn4: best to just pick a faster mirror and run the upgrade
[04:57] <ademan> jdong: oh, yay, i may have broken something then lol
[04:57] <XsteelWolf> Where is the initiate button on the keyboard?
 heh yea i guess so :P in the US?
[04:57] <Wisteso> i wasn't watching my speed but it must've been like 1MBps
[04:57] <Vlet> XsteelWolf: what do you mean?
[04:57] <rredd4> DSheperd  is it necessary to do a clean install when I already have the rc and current updates?
[04:57] <localgod11> jebblue: where is that?
[04:57] <CoasterMaster> rredd4, yes it is
[04:57] <jtt> Pumpitup, yes in us little to no international, to canada once
[04:57] <pazsion> is there a way i can install to HD without having to boot GUI
[04:57] <DerangedDingo> openbysource: yeah, it's just splash
[04:57] <CoasterMaster> rredd4, as long as you have all the updates installed, you have the final release version already
[04:57] <jtt> Pumpitup, btw what does  :P   mean
[04:58] <logreeval> haru: i posted on the forums about the crackly jack, i guess i will see if someone knows...
[04:58] <DShepherd> rredd4, umm.. no
[04:58] <CoasterMaster> pazsion, yes, you need the 'alternate' CD though
[04:58] <Vlet> pazsion: alternate cd
[04:58] <jebblue> localgod11 beryl Settings Manager
[04:58] <localgod11> yah i know but where?
[04:58] <pazsion> gah, will ubuntu beable to burn it for me?
[04:58] <XsteelWolf> Vlet, im trying to do a compiz effect, it ask me to initiate super+f12
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> anyone heard of a fix for the vga= in grubs menu.1st with kernel 2.6.22-14?
[04:58] <Psyber> Hello everyone
[04:58] <jebblue> localgod11 Applications System Tools
[04:58] <ixian_> is the release candiate the same as the full release?
[04:58] <Vlet> XsteelWolf: 'super' usually means the windows key
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> a.k.a no framebuffer support in gutsy?
[04:58] <zrk> 法国
[04:58] <XsteelWolf> yea i got that
[04:58] <rredd4> CosterMaster  DSheperd   one says yes, the other says no...  thats confusing
[04:59] <jdong> ixian_: it differs by a few updated packages of bugfixes
[04:59] <XsteelWolf> but what about initate
[04:59] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: try the flying window button
[04:59] <openbysource> DerangedDingo: okay thanks alot.
[04:59] <Psyber> has anyone had any issues with repositories when upgrading to gutsy?
[04:59] <rredd4> zrk  english
[04:59] <jdong> ixian_: if it "works" on your computer, a trivial update will bring you up to final
[04:59] <Vlet> XsteelWolf: it's telling you to hit super+f12
[04:59] <zrk> ok
[04:59] <magicrobotmonkey> Psyber: they are probably pretty loaded atm
[04:59] <kurisutofuaa> anyone know of any good recipe app's?
[04:59] <XsteelWolf> nothing comes out wierd
[04:59] <Vlet> XsteelWolf: 'initiate' is a verb, not a noun
[04:59] <ixian_> jdong: oh, well i have the RC and it hasn't updated since a few days ago
[04:59] <CoasterMaster> !final | rredd4
[04:59] <ubotu> rredd4: If you installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[04:59] <openbysource> one more thing, can i configure the compiz-fusion that came default with the gutsy installation ?
[04:59] <jtt> Psyber, from the looks of things everyone is having some sort of issue
[05:00] <XsteelWolf> thanks alot
[05:00] <jdong> ixian_: just update whenever the update servers aren't dead, at your convenience, and you'll be "final" :)
[05:00] <Vlet> jtt, everyone that's here posting frantically is, everyone else is fine
[05:00] <rredd4> CosterMaster  ok, I get nothing back with those commands.  ty
[05:00] <ubutom> update manager is frozen... tsk
[05:00] <sanguisdex> yeah every one is choking the servers
[05:00] <Kanti> anyone have a solution for not being able to use the mic, i get this error in the sound panel "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat:..."
[05:00] <RoC_MasterMind> Psyber, change repositories...  Switch to a different mirror--->System,Admin,Software Sources.  Download From--->Other, then click "Select Best Server".
[05:00] <CoasterMaster> rredd4, then you are running the latest version
[05:00] <RoC_MasterMind> ixian_,   Switch to a different mirror--->System,Admin,Software Sources.  Download From--->Other, then click "Select Best Server".
[05:00] <exhume> had anyone else had a problem connecting to battle.net since upgrading to 7.10?
[05:01] <pazsion> are there driver for nvida-ubuntu- that are not restricted or actually work. i d/led and installed ubuntu provided.. didn't load and cause ubuntu not to :::::::::::boot...::::::::
[05:01] <Agent_bob> networking Q,  i have a box with two eth cards.  set static ip's  but the problem is that some times card A is eth0 and some times card B is eth0     anyone know why, or what to do about it ?
[05:01] <jtt> Vlet, ahh true, that is why i never upgrade, full install only
[05:01] <Vlet> exhume: maybe they're running an ubuntu mirror and are getting hammered :)
[05:01] <Psyber> cool thanks RoC
[05:01] <exhume> Vlet: what?
[05:01] <sub[t]rnl> Anyone pulled off a framebuffer in tty's since upgrading? or is still an open bug
[05:01] <Vlet> jtt: yeah, I tried the upgrade... things just werem't quite right, so yeah, backup /home and reinstall :)
[05:01] <rredd4> I am glad I got the rc, don't have to wait for slow servers because everyone is downloading Gutsy
[05:01] <dredhammer> yes upgrading never seems to go well with ubuntu
[05:01] <Vlet> exhume: hoking
[05:01] <Vlet> exhume: joking
[05:02] <exhume> Vlet: yeah i got it as soon as i said what
[05:02] <inigomontoya> rredd4: i got the rc too :D
[05:02] <dredhammer>  right now i upgraded using the alternate disc and i still have to download more files
[05:02]  * sOSuke say hi
[05:02] <sOSuke> plz i need some help
[05:02] <inigomontoya> rredd4: did you have any trouble booting the live cd? I had no video until I fixed my xorg.conf
[05:02] <Agent_bob> no one ?
[05:02] <Fade2Blac> i need help the new feat in 7.10 that lets you  install firmware for wireless cards with Broadcom chipsets how do i use it, because i just installed ubuntu and i cant even get gnome to load because it comes up with an error about my wireless card
[05:02] <sanguisdex> can can I swich mirrors in the middle of and upgrade?
[05:02] <pazsion> ::alternate install:: will this be the full install or will i need internet?
[05:03] <jtt> Vlet, i keep one slice on my hard drive for the next release and then swap after it is stable i wrote a shell to perform all the apt-gets i need and then another shell to rsync important files from my rsync repository and wala works about 95%
[05:03] <Wisteso> it's just a text installer instead of a live-cd installer
[05:03] <KeithWeisshar> is the dvd version an all-in-one version, desktop, server, alternate
[05:03] <sanguisdex> pazsion: do a seach for you computers setup and installing linux
[05:03] <CoasterMaster> KeithWeisshar, yes
[05:03] <jtt> Pumpitup, what does  :P  mean
[05:03] <M3M3_C4ObY_> kkkjn
[05:04] <pazsion> wistese thanks...sanguisdex...will there be files missing?
[05:04] <Pumpitup> jtt> well nothing much really just a smiley
[05:04] <Vlet> good idea - for me, anything 'important' is actually on a file server, so if the workstation dies, whatever :)
[05:04] <SupaPepa> Anybody here familar with the Gutsy video graphics mode autodetection/config ?
[05:04] <basic> heya.
[05:04] <dredhammer> jtt the dvd version is combo of desktop and laternate
[05:04] <sanguisdex> pazsion: you may have found some one who already installit it on you moddel computer
[05:04] <Fade2Blac> bcm43xx: error: microcode "bcm43xx)microcode4.fw" not available or fail to load
[05:04] <dredhammer> and more packages
[05:04] <basic> quick q, hoping someone can help me out?
[05:04] <tronyx> whats up basic
[05:04] <dredhammer> *alternate
[05:04] <basic> does ubuntu support ddr?
[05:04] <tronyx> dance dance revolution?
[05:04] <jtt> Pumpitup, ok i see it used a lot and wondered
[05:04] <Vlet> yes
[05:05] <jtt> dredhammer, thanks
[05:05] <sojourney> i was installed icewm in myu ubuntu 5.04 but it not functionally, but i was only dkpg -i icewm...deb,
[05:05] <basic> and is there a ver, or plans to release a ver, that will support x64? (and subsequently 4gb ram, etc.)
[05:05] <sanguisdex> pazsion: it reallt is a question of will your graphics card wouk w/ the live cd
[05:05] <ubutom> no, it only supports edo-ram, basic ;)
[05:05] <tronyx> ah sorry basic, on those i am not very sure
[05:05] <basic> ubutom = mean.
[05:05] <freakazoid0223> fast-page ;)
[05:05] <Vlet> basic: yeah, it's right there on the download page :)
[05:05] <dredhammer> only if the card supports open drivers sanguisdex
[05:05] <Wisteso> ddr has nothing to do with operating system
[05:05] <pazsion> sanguisdex, no converting from 98, and nvida, I have installed on HD with the nvidia system
[05:05] <kurisutofuaa> Anyone know any good app's for Chef's?
[05:05] <basic> hmm.. supporting 4gb of ram had a lot to do with os, i thought.
[05:05] <basic> mayybe i am wrong.
[05:05] <KeithWeisshar> how long does it take to download the dvd version with a 3mbit dsl connection
[05:05] <magicrobotmonkey> basic yes theres a 64bit ver
[05:06] <basic> ok, gr8.
[05:06] <SupaPepa> I thought there was a "Safe Mode" that's supposed to work with all graphic cards.
[05:06] <XsteelWolf> AA
[05:06] <thedash> is there a way to get rsync to save the file list it generates ?
[05:06] <basic> anyone here have exp using cevega?
[05:06] <sanguisdex> pazsion: seach for the nveda model and linux
[05:06] <basic> its a wine thing.
[05:06] <CoasterMaster> KeithWeisshar, it's a ~4 GB file and the servers are slow, your best bet is to use !torrents to try and grab it
[05:06] <Vlet> kurisutofuaa: I think I saw a recipe database in the repos once :)
[05:06] <Wisteso> a 32 bit operating system may not be able to use more than 4gb, you're right there
[05:06] <inigomontoya> anyone having any trouble booting the live cd with 2 nvidia cards in sli?
[05:06] <Agent_bob> basic the os yes  but not the apps.   the kernel supports it.
[05:06] <pazsion> alright
[05:06] <puff> Anybody familiar with netstat?  I need to figure out what process ID is using a certain outbound network connection.
[05:06] <KeithWeisshar> !torrents
[05:06] <basic> if i could find someone in this channel who played eve online it'd be like winning the lottery, lol.
[05:06] <ubotu> Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Gutsy: http://fr.releases.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ (DVDs) - Please download using the torrents if you can!
[05:06] <sanguisdex> I had one lap top w/ one ati card in it that worked w/ the live cd
[05:06] <basic> hehe.
[05:06] <basic> puff: try netstat -h
[05:06] <dn4> when was gusty released?
[05:06] <codeshah> hey guys, when I do apt-get install... it goes really slow. it is using 'us.archive.''
[05:06] <jtt> KeithWeisshar, right now and for the next 3-4 days probably about 2 hours
[05:06] <codeshah> any ideas?
[05:06] <pazsion> yea ati seems to work
[05:07] <basic> gutsy was released today i think?
[05:07] <sanguisdex> pazsion: and one w/o that I had to use the alt cd for
[05:07] <Agent_bob> networking Q,  i have a box with two eth cards.  set static ip's  but the problem is that some times card A is eth0 and some times card B is eth0     anyone know why, or what to do about it ?
[05:07] <puff> basic: I already looked at the help.
[05:07] <KeithWeisshar> is the torrent from torrent.ubuntu.com the same
[05:07] <basic> um, ok. one sec puff.
[05:07] <basic> private convo me.
[05:07] <basic> i'll find the cmd.
[05:07] <ubutom> basic, i play eve casually ;) but with windows, on wine it didn't run too good for me...
[05:07] <cin> how can i refresh my asound modules? i've changed the indexes of my sound cards, i want it to re-load my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file
[05:07] <Vlet> basic: check out Cedega if you wanna run win32 apps
[05:07] <basic> ubutom, you think i can get cedega to run eve on gutsy?
[05:07] <KeithWeisshar> is it the same torrent as in cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <dn4> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/s6/index2.html <--- In Memorance of Gusty Winds rolling across the planes of the internet.
[05:07] <pazsion> EVE!!
[05:07] <basic> i'm ready to walk aay from ms forever lolz.
[05:07] <Vlet> basic: that is, games specifically
[05:07] <basic> <- avid eve fan.
[05:07] <Wisteso> cedega is garbage
[05:08] <basic> well.. SUPPOSEDLY.. transgaming is supposed to release a dedicated client wrapper thing,
[05:08] <IanLiu> Is there a way to install latest release of Blender?
[05:08] <basic> for eve.
[05:08] <jb0nd38372> wish I could find a way to get f.e.a.r to run under / wine or cedega
[05:08] <Psyber> anyone know why I would be getting dependency issues when installing Apache with synaptic?
[05:08] <basic> before q1 2008.
[05:08] <IanLiu> via synaptic?
[05:08] <inigomontoya> is it ok to paste links to youtube videos in this chat? or will someone slap me with a salmon?
[05:08] <pazsion> <<can't wait to get a credit card again..so i can play EVE- carbon knight paxton still i hope
[05:08] <openbysource> basic: okay
[05:08] <|neon|> Agent_bob: i think you can use ethtool can't remember the command tho
[05:08] <Vlet> basic: I tried getting WoW and Quake4 working in wine... kinda sucked... With cedega, it was much nicer even though all it really is is wine
[05:08] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having trouble even opening cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <endx> I installed gutsy but delesected installing the boot loader
[05:08] <|neon|> Agent_bob: try ethtool -h
[05:08] <Wisteso> no, i mean cedega works but you may as well buy vista if you're going to buy into cedega
[05:08] <endx> how I do access my gutsy now?
[05:08] <basic> puff try netstat -a
[05:08] <localgod11> where in the new Compizsetting manager is the setting to allow the windows to flaot off the cube?
[05:08] <jtt> Dr_willis, long time no hear/see
[05:09] <Vlet> inigomontoya: don't go too off topic - the gods will anger
[05:09] <freakazoid0223> WOW is supposed to run well with crossoveroffice
[05:09] <magicrobotmonkey> localgod11: try 3d windows
[05:09] <ubutom> I don't know if it runs better with cedega, basic
[05:09] <XsteelWolf> How do i create toolbars right at the bottom?
[05:09] <Agent_bob> |neon| you mean write a script to set the cards id at boot time ?
[05:09] <inigomontoya> Vlet: it's just a video I just uploaded running ubuntu and virtualbox, is that kosher?
[05:09] <sanguisdex> oi vey
[05:09] <endx> hey, I installed gutsy but deselected the "install to boot loader" checkbox before completing the installation, how can I get into ubuntu now?
[05:10] <sanguisdex> I just went form 6 mins left to 2 hours left
[05:10] <Vlet> inigomontoya: I'm no judge :)
[05:10] <sanguisdex> for the upgrade
[05:10] <dredhammer> lol
[05:10] <magicrobotmonkey> sanguisdex: its to be expected
[05:10] <sanguisdex> I know
[05:10] <warbler> endx: you can load grub from a live cd
[05:10] <openbysource> endx: lol. why you did that ?
[05:10] <dn4> I'll be Ubuntu released!
[05:10] <dn4> 7.10 today
[05:10] <dn4> WOOOT!
[05:10] <Vlet> localgod11: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:10] <IanLiu> Gutsy Pwnage!!
[05:10] <Psyber> anyone know why I would be getting dependency issues using synaptic?
[05:10] <Neodudeman> can someone help me out? i can't seem to upgrade to gutsy =/
[05:10] <endx> I sort of had something else going on prior to this reinstallation
[05:11] <siriusnova> uhh is there a gui tool to mount drives in Ubuntu Gutsy?
[05:11] <endx> trying to load the boot sector through there
[05:11] <Vampyric> Does anyone know what the effect is called that when you double click on  the top of the window it wraps it up like a blind
[05:11] <endx> how do I load grub from the live cd?
[05:11] <Vlet> !ask
[05:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:11] <defrysk> Psyber, mixed repositories
[05:11] <|neon|> Agent_bob: ethtool is tool to configure your nic's its been a while since i used try sudo ethtool eth0
[05:11] <Neodudeman> lol
[05:11] <Evanlec> siriusnova, yea its called nautilus...
[05:11] <sanguisdex> Neodudeman: describe you issue
[05:11] <localgod11> magic: i dont see that as an option
[05:11] <magicrobotmonkey> Vampyric: shade
[05:11] <Vampyric> thanks
[05:11] <VeganCheesesteak> liberion: burning the disc now
[05:11] <Psyber> defrysk: is there a way to solve the issue?
[05:11] <siriusnova> Evanlec - i formatted a drive (external) as ext3 but it wont show in nautilus
[05:11] <ixian_> localgod11: did you find that option? i'd like to know where it is too..
[05:11] <logreeval> Haru: if the speakers dont turn off when i plug in the headphones, is that a mobo issue, or a OS issue?
[05:11] <inigomontoya> hey guys, want to see a youtube vid i just uploaded?
[05:11] <defrysk> Psyber, remove non ubuntu repos might help
[05:11] <XsteelWolf> How do i create toolbars right at the bottom?
[05:12] <wolfen69> i just burned kubuntu gutsy, im off to load it up
[05:12] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: i went to the Update Manager, and clicked the Upgrade button like the instructions said
[05:12] <lwizardl> Hi
[05:12] <Evanlec> siriusnova, USB? it should....
[05:12] <|neon|> you see the speed and stuff of your nic with issuing a command you can permanently set your device so it wont change back and forth
[05:12] <inigomontoya> ubuntu running xp and vista with virtualbox
[05:12] <localgod11> ixian: nope
[05:12] <localgod11> let me know
[05:12] <sanguisdex> Neodudeman ok
[05:12] <magicrobotmonkey> localgod11: oh that plugin must not have made it into gutsy
[05:12] <siriusnova> Evanlec - nope
[05:12] <PiousMinion> I have an ATI and nV card in my box and ubuntu 7.10 find them just fine, but I don't get the option to enable to second monitor on the nV card.  Should I go write my own xorg.conf  or am I missing something?
[05:12] <lwizardl> i'm only getting sound from my right speaker
[05:12] <IanLiu> Is it possible to install Blender latest version by apt-get?
[05:12] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: but in the phase of 'preparing the upgrade' it hangs while Fetching file 28 of 37
[05:12] <Vlet> XsteelWolf: right click the bottom panel and click add to panel
[05:12] <localgod11> is there away to install it >
[05:12] <Evanlec> siriusnova, is it a usb external drive?
[05:12] <_6StringKng_> sudo alsamixer
[05:12] <|neon|> lwizardl: is call surround right :)
[05:12] <siriusnova> yes Evanlec
[05:12] <ixian_> localgod11: i don't know
[05:12] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: it just refuses to move. Process manager also says there's nothing going on
[05:12] <sanguisdex> Neodudeman: that is just becaseu so many people are down laoding
[05:12] <magicrobotmonkey> localgod11: check the forums at compiz-fusion.org
[05:13] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: oh.... ok. so i'll just wait then
[05:13] <Vlet> PiousMinion: the control panel didn't find mine either - had to manually edit xorg
[05:13] <sanguisdex> I am in the same place
[05:13] <Psyber> defrysk: I just updated to gutsy... shouldent my non-standard repos be removed by now?
[05:13] <localgod11>  I want my fiesty back
[05:13] <r0b-> when will the Ubuntu servers be normal?
[05:13] <Evanlec> siriusnova, k, type 'sudo fdisk -l' u should be able to identify ur drive from that list...if its not in that list then i donno what to tell ya
[05:13] <ssarangi> Hi i justed upgraded to gutsy and I have a problem with the internet.. I have a broadcom card for both wireless and ethernet and now i can't access either of their drivers from the restricted repositories since my net connection itself is not working
[05:13] <PiousMinion> Vlet: thanks.  :)
[05:13] <lwizardl> |neon|, nope i should have stereo sound but current;y its mono from the right only
[05:13] <jdod> alt+f2...nvidia-settings [enter]
[05:13] <Vlet> localgod11: QQ
[05:13] <haru> if it happens in win its os issue
[05:13] <defrysk> Psyber, if you have non standard repos , they wont be removed by an upgrade
[05:13] <haru> logreeval, if it happens in win its os issue
[05:13] <sanguisdex> Neodudeman if you are just starting out yu might be better off stopping and getting the torrent
[05:13] <localgod11> vlet: QQ?
[05:13] <defrysk> Psyber, you will have to do that manually
[05:14] <Vlet> localgod11: nevermind ;)
[05:14] <localgod11> ?
[05:14] <demon_spork> how do I play DVDs in gutsy?
[05:14] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: i'll just wait until tomorrow, or the next day to upgrade. Thanks for the info sanguisdex!
[05:14] <demon_spork> !dvd
[05:14] <Vlet> localgod11: it means 'cry' :)
[05:14] <tritium> !dvd > demon_spork
[05:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:14] <ubutom> update manager just freezes... grr ;)
[05:14] <demon_spork> lol
[05:14] <Psyber> defrysk: ok  what dir is the repos list in again?
[05:14] <localgod11> lol
[05:14] <PiousMinion> localgod11:  It's a polish service like ICQ I believe.
[05:14] <magicrobotmonkey> localgod11: imho its worth it
[05:14] <XsteelWolf> damn,i accidentally delete the taskbar that shows all my running applications,how do i restore it back
[05:14] <Nrbelex> Hi, I'm trying to update my repositories - main, universe, multiverse - and I get to a download with 29 files but the update always freezes at 21. Is this just me? Is it due to traffic?
[05:14] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: actually, on a separate note; how do I change the settings of when I close the laptop lid?
[05:14] <defrysk> Psyber, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <antitab> uhm
[05:14] <logreeval> haru: does that mean i am going to have to live with turning off the speakers?
[05:14] <antitab> so I tried booting up Gutsy on my old Vaio
[05:14] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: right click on the panel and select add to panel
[05:14] <Evanlec> !acpi | Neodudeman
[05:14] <jimmygoon> Nrbelex, yes, try tomorrow, I have the same problem
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <Psyber> Nrbelex:  I had the same problem... just change the servers you are using
[05:15] <haru> logreeval, theres a fix
[05:15] <antitab> and in the middle of boot it dropped me into "busybox"
[05:15] <oldmanstan> Nrbelex: it's prolly cuz so many ppl are on at once, try later
[05:15] <XsteelWolf> magicrobotmonkey, then?
[05:15] <Evanlec> k nevermind
[05:15] <antitab> and did nothing
[05:15] <jimmygoon> Nrbelex, you can also play with the mirros
[05:15] <antitab> at all
[05:15] <Dev-Dev> could anyone help me with build drivers for my RAID card?
[05:15] <Vlet> Nrbelex: probably traffic - try another mirror
[05:15] <XsteelWolf> which do i select?
[05:15] <dn4> Does anyone know the exact Time of release?
[05:15] <Nrbelex> hehe, thanks all!
[05:15] <emma> hi, need to install opensuse on my hd with gutsy installed , for comparison , how do i do it without messing up the bootloader
[05:15] <Dev-Dev> buillding*
[05:15] <logreeval> haru: really?, how do i go about doing this "fix" :P
[05:15] <Pumpitup> !enter
[05:15] <Neodudeman> sanguisdex: i'll just check the documentation. Thanks again san.
[05:15] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:15] <defrysk> !sources.list | Psyber
[05:15] <ubotu> Psyber: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:15] <Evanlec> Dev-Dev, i think thats a little beyond the scope of this channel lol
[05:15] <haru> logreeval, mine worked after a kernel update
[05:15] <lexu1> I am running Ubuntu Feisty and I would like to upgrade to Gutsy... but my Update Manager is nowhere to be seen..... please HELP!!!
[05:15] <haru> so for me it was auto
[05:15] <sanguisdex> Neodudeman:: system -> Power managemnt
[05:15] <antitab> alright, I
[05:15] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: window list
[05:15] <antitab> oops
[05:15] <ixian_> okay does ANYONE know how to enable floating windows on the cube in compiz fusion?
[05:15] <antitab> I'll rephrase
[05:15] <Dev-Dev> could you point me to a channel where it is the scope?
[05:15] <localgod11> is it me or is gutsy run slower than fiesty
[05:15] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: or notification area, depending which you're talking about
[05:16] <Evanlec> ixian_, what do u mean floating?
[05:16] <antitab> I tried booting Gutsy on my 2001 Vaio, and in the middle of bootup it dropped me into a Busybox shell and did nothing
[05:16] <jimmyww_> how do i boot from busybox prompt
[05:16] <defrysk> localgod11, its you
[05:16] <magicrobotmonkey> ixian_: its not in gutsy
[05:16] <logreeval> haru: how do i do that?
[05:16] <ixian_> magicrobotmonkey: oh..
[05:16] <gerf> anyone else have problems connecting to wireless networks with 7.10, with WPA and TKIP?
[05:16] <b4sic> what happened to all the cool wallpapers for gnome.
[05:16] <b4sic> :(
[05:16] <jhoz> localgod11: My gutsy definatley takes longer to start then feisty
[05:16] <jimmygoon> antitab, check the cd at the cd-boot
[05:16] <Vlet> Dev-Dev: perhaps #debian
[05:16] <lexu1> I am running Ubuntu Feisty and I would like to upgrade to Gutsy... but my Update Manager is nowhere to be seen..... please HELP!!!
[05:16] <_6StringKng_> gnome-look.org
[05:16] <localgod11> just doesnt seam as peppy
[05:16] <Dev-Dev> ty ill ask there
[05:16] <antitab> jimmygoon: the CD is fine, I just booted it on my MacBook
[05:16] <haru> logreeval, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:16] <notv> does opengl work with the ati XPRESS 200M in gutsy?
[05:16] <jimmygoon> lexu1 do you not know where to look or is it not installed?
[05:16] <oldmanstan> lexu1: run update manager manually from menu, admin i believe
[05:17] <Vlet> lexu1: hit ctrl-f3 and type: kgsudo update-manager -d
[05:17] <Psyber> defrysk: I just checked and all but my ubuntu repos are commented out...  any other ideas why synaptic would be failing?
[05:17] <lexu1> jimmygoon: its not in the menu
[05:17] <sanguisdex> lexu1: system -> Admin -> update manager
[05:17] <jimmygoon> lexu1, you can always do it manually or open update-manager manually (Alt+F2, 'update-manager' or maybe 'gnome-update-manager')
[05:17] <pazsion> lol july 18th.. same problem no replies lol
[05:17] <Dr_willis> notv,  I THINK it does.. thats what i got on my laptop at least.. but its a rather low end card. so it cant do much 3d wise. :)
[05:17] <jimmygoon> antitab, oh
[05:17] <siriusnova> Ok so I got my external hd formatted to ext3 mounted, now is there any way i can write to it as a user?
[05:17] <XsteelWolf> magicrobotmonkey, it shows up on the top,how do move it to the bottom
[05:17] <siriusnova> because when it gets mounted i cant write to it
[05:17] <logreeval> haru: when i do that, it just says it wants to remove lm-sensors
[05:17] <siriusnova> as a regular user
[05:17] <Psyber> defrysk:  sorry non-ubunut repos are #
[05:17] <Dr_willis> siriusnova,  make a directory On the hd..  chown that dir to be owned by the user you want to have access to the drive.
[05:17] <defrysk> Psyber, a conflict might be the problem due to previously used non-ubuntu repos
[05:17] <Vlet> siriusnova: I think you need to change the owner of it's mount point
[05:18] <lexu1> jimmygoon: is there a way to see if its installed?
[05:18] <Evanlec> siriusnova, should be able to write to it...did u try it?
[05:18] <defrysk> Psyber, in that case a fresh install is advisable
[05:18] <Fade2Black> how do i disable my wireless card so i dont get this error message bcm43xx: error: microcode "bcm43xx_microcode4.fw" not available or fail to load how do i get the restricted fireware so i can get past this error
[05:18] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: ahh, first create a new panel
[05:18] <jimmygoon> heh, I think the main server is getting pounded even more
[05:18] <Nrbelex> Will non-free packages be automatically updated through the default updater?
[05:18] <Vlet> siriusnova: like: sudo chown yourusername /media/something
[05:18] <haru> logreeval, i have no ideas then :)
[05:18] <jimmygoon> lexu1, its called "update-manager"
[05:18] <oldmanstan> Nrbelex: as long as they were installed through the package manager then yes
[05:18] <XsteelWolf> Add a new panel or create?
[05:18] <jimmygoon> try running that in a terminal
[05:18] <siriusnova> ok cool
[05:18] <Vlet> Nrbelex: yeah
[05:18] <logreeval> haru: ok, thanks anyways ;)
[05:18] <Nrbelex> Great, thanks
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Vlet,  Im not sure that works for mount points. :) i find it easier to just make a dir. and chown that.
[05:18] <Psyber> defrysk: well poop  and I just got my desktop setup the way I like it
[05:18] <Evanlec> !blacklist | Fade2Blac
[05:18] <ubotu> Fade2Blac: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[05:18] <Vlet> lexu1: hit ctrl-f3 and type: kgsudo update-manager -d
[05:18] <thundr3> Is there an easy way to load GRUB from a USB flash drive?  I can't load it from my hard drive.
[05:18] <oldmanstan> lexu1: press alt-f2 then type 'update-manager' and hit enter
[05:18] <magicrobotmonkey> XsteelWolf: right click -> new panel
[05:19] <Evanlec> !blacklist | Fade2Black
[05:19] <ubotu> Fade2Black: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[05:19] <Psyber> defrysk: is there a way to do a fresh install and keep my preferences ... like my /home directory?
[05:19] <oldmanstan> lexu1: sorry, 'sudo update-manager'
[05:19] <defrysk> Psyber, you could also try using aptitude to resolve the issue
[05:19] <Vlet> Dr_willis: well, you'd have to umount the drive first, then the mount point is just a dir
[05:19] <jimmygoon> Vlet, ctrl+f3 doesn't do anything?
[05:19] <lexu1> Vlet: I looked in Synaptic and it was not installed....so I am installing update-manager
[05:19] <Psyber> defrysk: what is aptitude?
[05:19] <Evanlec> thundr3, try super grub disk, just google it
[05:19] <Vlet> jimmygoon: oh... thought that was the shortcut for the 'run command'
[05:19] <ademan> is there a command to move volumes in lvm?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Vlet,  and mounting somthing OVER a directory. makes the permissions on that dir. Ignored. I do belive. :)
[05:19] <tritium> Psyber: did you put /home on a separate partition?
[05:19] <thundr3> Evanlec: thanks, I'll try that
[05:19] <jimmygoon> :O did you remove update-manger :O
[05:19] <XsteelWolf> magicrobotmonkey, i did that,what about zooming back to desktop button
[05:19] <dredhammer> well one thing i can say about Gutsy is that bulletproof X works
[05:20] <Psyber> tritium: no :-( I wanted to but did not have the space to spare
[05:20] <Vlet> lexu1: open a terminal and try running: sudo update-manager -d
[05:20] <Dr_willis> dredhammer,  i managed to break it. :)
[05:20] <koolarry> hello is there any place I can download Ubuntu  doc ?
[05:20] <dredhammer> one upgrade and reboot later
[05:20] <lexu1> Vlet: I am installing update-manager
[05:20] <jimmygoon> Vlet, nah its Alt+f2 ... Alt+f3 is deskbar in gutsy ... btw, he apparently removed update-manger :S
[05:20] <Vlet> Dr_willis: oh, I can be a tard with stuff like that
[05:20] <thedonvaughn> Vlet: please don't refer people to #debian for ubuntu.  They won't get helped.
[05:20] <Vlet> lexu1: what? why?
[05:20] <Fade2Black> what would hte module name be
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Vlet,  its just how mounting things work. :)
[05:20] <dredhammer> apparently my video card just couldn't be recognized
[05:20] <lexu1> Vlet: it was not installed
[05:20] <jimmygoon> heh
[05:20] <defrysk> Psyber, if you have a seperate /home , a fresh install with a preserved /home should be a no brainer to maintain previous settings
[05:20] <tritium> precisely
[05:20] <Vlet> thedonvaughn: sorry, I thought it might be a good place for more advanced stuff
[05:21] <lexu1> Vlet: also the Add/Remove is not in my menu anymore...
[05:21] <XsteelWolf> nvm i saw it thanks
[05:21] <thedonvaughn> Vlet: nah, it's just that #debian doesn't support ubuntu.  That should be supported here
[05:21] <Vlet> lexu1: open a terminal and try running: sudo update-manager -d
[05:21] <jimmygoon> lexu1, it sounds to me like trying to upgrading your (Butchered) copy might be a bad idea
[05:21] <iobelisk> whoa. i just noticed going to "my computer" via nautilus does not show my /home partition. also, my home folder is created in / not in /home
[05:21] <Psyber> defrysk: so could I just backup /home install then recopy my old /home?