[02:59] <leperkhanz> But since compiz isn't currently running....
[03:16] <leperkhanz> Anyone else getting a broken compiz?
[03:16] <leperkhanz> Over all gutsy IS getting more stable, but now compiz patently refuses to work.  Sad Face.
[03:18] <DanaG> I've gotten Compiz to work by disabling it through "desktop effects" and manually re-enabling it after the session has begun.
[03:18] <DanaG> I mean, s/re-enabling/running/
[03:24] <thomp1> is there some way to fix the 30 sec delay before grub issue on macbook efi
[03:40] <jmg> guys my firefox preferences is fscked and firefox is showing the wrong fonts
[03:40] <jmg> ideas?
[03:40] <jmg> its actually a crash
[03:41] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08c70ca0 ***
[03:41] <Toma-> move your .firefox folder?
[03:41] <jmg> you mean .mozilla
[03:42] <Toma-> hmm both?
[03:42] <jmg> .mozilla/firefox
[03:42] <Toma-> not sure where my firefox folder came from..
[03:42] <jmg> mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox.old
[03:42] <jmg> there is no .firefox
[03:42] <Toma-> ok
[03:42] <jmg> unless you ran one of the mofoco builds
[03:43] <jmg> removing it has no effect
[03:43] <Toma-> well file a bug?
[03:43] <jmg> yah just apt-get upgrading
[03:45] <jmg> i notice a new build of libc6
[03:45] <ulysses_> does this .22 kernel already have the new scheduler?
[03:46] <Toma-> CFS is in .23
[03:46] <ulysses_> gutsy seems a little unresponsive to me compared to feisty
[03:46] <jmg> ulysses_: are you using xgl/compiz?
[03:47] <ulysses_> yep
[03:47] <jmg> strange, i find it much better
[03:47] <ulysses_> one thing that never happened before is the mouse cursor skipping
[03:47] <ulysses_> scrolling down...
[03:48] <ulysses_> i'll try to use a vanilla kernel, or an older one
[04:32] <philip__> anyone know if 2.6.23 out? CFS included?
[04:35] <ulysses_> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[04:35] <ulysses_> cfs is in
[04:36] <ulysses_> ops
[04:37] <ulysses_> philip__: it is in rc1
[05:21] <pawan> hi
[05:21] <pawan> can seen options in xmms player
[05:21] <pawan> http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1tj6.png
[05:25] <pawan> my problem
[06:43] <voidmage> interesting fact about gutsy and compiz and nvidia 8600gt: i get 60fps in ut2004 according to the fps counter, but it skips a lot of frames too
[06:43] <voidmage> this is with the "unmanage fullscreen windows" setting checked
[07:55] <jmg> guys firefox is fscked on my gutsy
[07:55] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: double free or corruption (out): 0x091903c0 ***
[07:57] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: free(): invalid pointer: 0x08dfb420 ***
[07:58] <jmg> going to test with granparadiso
[08:00] <jmg> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/firefox-granparadiso/firefox-granparadiso-bin: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08e434a0 ***
[08:00] <jmg> suspect glibc issue?
[08:16] <xnix> ive compiled my own kernel package and installed that, but am having trouble generating my ouwn l-r-m package or manually getting nvidia drivers installed/working on my kernel
[08:17] <xnix> does anyone have experience with this?
[08:28] <Sebastian> jmg: glibc is only the messenger.
[08:29] <jmg> Sebastian: i see
[08:33] <DanaG> How do I get hal to NOT try to mount ntfs RW?
[08:35] <SeveredCross> Edit the fstab entry to say ro?
[08:37] <DanaG> Aah, I just had to manually pmount-hal it.
[08:38] <DanaG> For some reason, Gnome's auto-mounting was trying to mount it RW.
[08:38] <DanaG> NTFS-3G reeeeeeeally needs an automatic fallback to RO on mount failure!
[08:39] <SeveredCross> Can't you add the on-errors=remount-ro option?
[08:39] <SeveredCross> Er, I think it's just "errors=remount-ro"
[08:39] <SeveredCross> Or does that only work for ext3 and such?
[08:51] <DanaG> That's only on ext3.
[08:51] <DanaG> Oh, yay, now Azureus is crashing whenever I double-click an item in the list.
[08:53] <DanaG> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[08:53] <DanaG> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb4727172, pid=21467, tid=3084200848
[08:55] <SeveredCross> Azureus is crashy as all hell.
[08:55] <SeveredCross> I couldn't get it to start up much less do anything
[08:55] <SeveredCross> I had to just unzip the tarball from the website.
[08:55] <SeveredCross> Something is at issue with gij.
[08:55] <SeveredCross> I think.
[08:57] <DanaG> I'm using Java 6, though.
[08:57] <DanaG> I'll try it with 1.5, also.
[08:57] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+bug/68020
[08:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 68020 in azureus "Azureus crashes just after startup (attempt to show sliding notification window)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:57] <DanaG> Oddly, mine shows that just fine, but going to "Details" crashes it.
[08:57] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[08:57] <SeveredCross> I couldn't get azureus to install without installing gij
[08:58] <DanaG> Odd, with 1.5:   SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb4727172, pid=21467, tid=3084200848
[08:58] <DanaG> er
[08:58] <DanaG> #  Internal Error<PHONE_NUMBER>4432554E54494D450E43505001A3), pid=21905, tid=3084535472
[08:59] <DanaG> I'll try with gcj.
[08:59] <DanaG> Also, the plugin installation wizard seems to be missing.
[09:02] <DanaG> Okay, gcj can't do other-language characters.
[09:06] <DanaG> Yay, the package that fixes that linked bug fixes mine, too.
[09:28] <DanaG> I still don't know where the plugin wizard is, though.
[10:27] <azi> hello, i'm trying to install the latest gutsy (it's the only distro supporting my graphic card) but after i set up the disks, it starts installing and then the installation wizzard disapairs.. anyone happens to know what's going on?
[10:35] <stdin> azi: the installer is a bit buggy right now, you could try installing feisty then upgrading to gutsy
[10:37] <azi> stdin: there is no way for me to install feisty
[10:38] <azi> stdin: acutally i'd like to have feisty working
[10:38] <azi> stdin: but X doesn't start as i have a new graphic card, the alternate CD is too buggy for real life use
[10:38] <stdin> azi: try the alternate cd
[10:38] <azi> stdin: so, i'm trying to use this one and then to downgrade to feisty.. will that be possible?
[10:39] <stdin> azi: no, you can not downgrade
[10:39] <azi> stdin: but will I be left with a stable system if i'll be able to install gutsy?
[10:39] <azi> stdin: i'm in a bad situation ;l
[10:40] <stdin> azi: gutsy isn't classed as "stable", but I haven't had too many problems, use the alternate cd for feisty and upgrade to gutsy
[10:41] <azi> stdin: i can't use the alternate cd, it's more buggy than gutsy installer
[10:41] <azi> stdin: in the middle of the installation my keyboard stops working etc..
[10:42] <stdin> azi: the alternate installer is more stable than the GUI installer, always worked here
[10:47] <azi> stdin: it looks that after a bit of hacking, I was able to install gutsy :-)
[10:49] <claria> hi,
[10:49] <claria> if i want to change to a text console with strg+alt+f2, i only get a black screen
[10:51] <claria> the same with startup. there is no output unless gdm starts and the login screen appears.
[10:53] <DanaG> Oh, if you put "fbcon" in /etc/modules, it may fix the framebuffer console.
[10:54] <DanaG> I had to do that on my system.
[10:54] <DanaG> Right now, you can try blindly logging in and doing "sudo modprobe fbcon".
[10:54] <DanaG> Then wait a moment and enter your password again, of course.
[10:57] <claria> wow, you are great!! That works
[10:57] <claria> Thanks
[10:58] <DanaG> I really need to post a note about that in the relevant bug report, if there is one.
[10:58] <DanaG> Somehow, fbcon is not being loaded in the initramfs.
[10:59] <DanaG> Now I need to go to sleep.
[11:13] <DanaG> Argh, "Restart Azureus" is missing from the menu, also.
[12:00] <xstasi> hi
[12:00] <xstasi> i just upgraded to gutsy
[12:00] <xstasi> in the menus, when i pass the mouse over stuff, it doesn't get highlighted
[12:01] <xstasi> and in GNOME's tasklist, windows have no borders
[12:01] <xstasi> is that normal?
[12:16] <geser> but the normal windows have borders?
[12:22] <xstasi> geser, yes they do
[12:22] <xstasi> i'm running compiz fusion from ubuntu official
[12:30] <hastesaver> hi, debtags doesn't seem to work for me -- it used to work on Feisty IIRC
[12:31] <hastesaver> and packagesearch has broken dependencies
[12:32] <Hobbsee> oh, so it does
[12:34] <Hobbsee> hastesaver: fixed.
[12:34] <Hobbsee> (the packagesearch)
[12:36] <hastesaver> wow, that was incredible :-)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> :0
[12:37] <Hobbsee> * :)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> i thought we got all those rebuilds.  seems now
[12:39] <Hobbsee> er, not
[12:39] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ apt-cache unmet -i | grep Package | wc -l
[12:39] <Hobbsee> 115
[12:39] <Hobbsee> ouch.
[12:40] <geser> Hobbsee: last I looked for a rebuild it failed to build
[12:41] <geser> it = packagesearch
[12:41] <Hobbsee> hah.  only passed on sparc
[12:41] <Hobbsee> oh, point
[12:41] <Hobbsee> geser: fudge.  any idea if it works with the new libept?
[12:42] <geser> I haven't tried yet
[12:42] <Hobbsee> geser: ah, no, i'ts dead.
[12:43] <Hobbsee> debian b ug #429005
[12:43] <Hobbsee> debian bug #429005
[12:43] <geser> found the bug now too
[12:43] <Hobbsee> hastesaver: okay, in that case, it's *not* fixed, and wont be until debian fixes it.
[12:45] <Hobbsee> s/builds/works/
[12:46] <hastesaver> Hobbsee: hmm... ok, thanks anyway. `apt-cache show` and `debtags show` don't show me tags either BTW... is that a bug or are they supposed to work that way?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> no idea - i only see debtags used from within adept
[12:48] <hastesaver> ok. they used to show tags some time ago, maybe it was changed intentionally. Anyway ept-cache show works
[12:49] <geser> have all packages tags already?
[12:49] <geser> apt-cache show arj shows me the tags for this package
[12:51] <hastesaver> hmm... right. Funny, for most packages I tried ("mutt", say) apt-cache doesn't show and ept-cache shows
[12:51] <stdin> debtags show arj shows them too
[12:57] <leperkhanz> Anyone wanna help me figure out what I'm missing to make Emerald themes work?
[12:57] <geser> have you emerald running?
[12:58] <leperkhanz> Could not acquire decoration manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0
[12:58] <leperkhanz> compiz itself is running quite nicely though.
[12:58] <leperkhanz> :D
[12:59] <geser> compiz itself starts {gtk,kde}-window-decorator by default
[12:59] <geser> you have to start emerald with emerald --replace &
[01:00] <leperkhanz> Success!
[01:00] <leperkhanz> Will it start automagically from now on?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> and actually obey workspaces.
[01:00] <geser> no, you have to start it on every login
[01:01] <leperkhanz> Now if I had more than one theme... LOL
[01:02] <geser> grab the emerald-themes package from feisty or go to www.gnome-look.org
[01:02] <xstasi> leperkhanz, you should have the emerald theme manager
[01:02] <xstasi> let him download the themes from SVN
[01:02] <xstasi> :)
[01:02] <leperkhanz> yeah, I have that.
[01:02] <leperkhanz> but there's only one theme in it.  "untitled" and it's redish.
[01:03] <xstasi> go to the Repositories tab
[01:03] <xstasi> and make him fetch GPL'd (or non GPL'd too) themes
[01:06] <leperkhanz> did both of those.
[01:07] <leperkhanz> Ah wait, I need to learn how to read.
[01:07] <leperkhanz> LOL
[01:08] <xstasi> :P
[01:11] <leperkhanz> w00t.  Installed subversion, getting themes now. :D
[01:14] <leperkhanz> there are some hiddeous themes in here. lOL
[01:45] <mikkael> the third screenshot shows the new ksplash theme of kubuntu tribe 3: http://shots.linuxquestions.org/?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%207.10%20Gutsy%20Gibbon%20Tribe%203 why isnt this one on my updated gutsy installation ? the new desktop, color scheme, whatever are applied.
[02:00] <squee> I'm trying to run compiz but i keep getting "/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32" and then it segfaults.  glxinfo -t shows that I am running in 24 bit, so what else could it be?
[02:47] <stdin> Hobbsee: have you noticed the description of the nvidia-glx packages is wrong?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> stdin: nope
[02:52] <stdin> Hobbsee: "To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"." that's the old command
[02:52] <Hobbsee> stdin: provide a patch?  :)
[02:54] <stdin> Hobbsee: wouldn't that mean I have to grab the whole l-r-m source :p
[02:54] <Hobbsee> stdin: looks like it.
[02:55] <Hobbsee> hmm, that doesnt seem to be in bzr
[02:55] <stdin> man that's overkill for a small change :p
[02:55] <Hobbsee> stdin: on european monday, go to #ubuntu-kernel, and ask benc what he'd like to do - give him what's there now, and waht youd' like it changed to
[02:56] <Hobbsee> erm...reality check - how do you expect to be able to make such a change without having the source there?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> he may tell you to make a patch, or just add it in as is
[02:56] <Hobbsee> actually, it may well be in git.
[02:57] <stdin> oh well, i've reported it in lp anyway
[02:58] <Hobbsee> did you say what you wanted it changed to?
[02:58] <stdin> umm, let me check :p I don't actually use nvidia
[02:58] <stdin> Hobbsee: To enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-xconfig".
[02:59] <Hobbsee> right.  i would mentoin that bug to benc on monday, though
[03:00] <Hobbsee> he should be doing a l-r-m upload soon
[03:00] <stdin> ok, I'll tell him then
[03:00] <Hobbsee> cool
[05:03] <tatters> Been trying to install vmware-server vmmon module keeps failing ..http://pastebin.com/m439f851
[05:03] <tatters> http://pastebin.com/m439f851
[05:04] <tatters> anyone managed to get vmware server up n running in gutsy?
[06:00] <alesan> hi
[06:39] <sebsebseb> I want to upgrade  Feisty to the latest Gutsy alpha,  so  I run the get update command open up the updater and yeah,  however upgrading to Gutsy is not an option for me here.  I need to turn something on so that it becomes an option or?
[06:45] <askand> Is there anyone else who dont have internet after last update?
[07:00] <PriceChild> askand, how do you get your internet?
[07:00] <PriceChild> elephant?
[07:00] <askand> PriceChild elephant?
[07:00] <PriceChild> do you wish for it and it comes?
[07:00] <PriceChild> or does it come through ethernet?
[07:00] <PriceChild> or perhaps a wireless card?
[07:00] <PriceChild> usb broadband modem?
[07:01] <askand> PriceChild: hrm it comes trough a wireless usbthing..certainly trough an elephant :P
[07:04] <askand> PriceChild: I use network managers roaming mode but it wont connect anymore..'
[07:09] <sq89> hi! when I run `update-manager -d`, I don't get any notice about the gutsy testing version. I'd like to help testing the improved dual-monitor stuff. any idea what I should do?
[07:11] <sq89> got the newest version of update-manager, and just apt-get updated
[07:15] <sq89> done %s/feisty/gutsy/g now, will probably work
[07:15] <sq89> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:23] <PriceChild> askand, hey sorry.
[07:23] <PriceChild> askand, pastebin output of lspci please
[07:23] <PriceChild> sq89, gksudo update-manager -c -d should do it I think
[07:24] <sq89> PriceChild: tried that, but I keep getting either "warning: could not initiate dbus", "current dist not found in meta-release file" or both
[07:25] <PriceChild> meh its probably broken anyway... just replace feisty with gutsy in sources list
[07:25] <PriceChild> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[07:25] <PriceChild> and be aware this is a one way operation
[07:25] <sq89> ok, I'll try that
[07:25] <PriceChild> Don't do this on any mission critical system.
[07:25] <sq89> did it for the previous versions too and that worked
[07:25] <PriceChild> It _WILL_ break at some point
[07:25] <PriceChild> and ensure you have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed
[07:25] <sq89> I'm used to broken systems, I'm doing it all the time :-)
[07:25] <PriceChild> or kubuntu-desktop etc.
[07:26] <sq89> installing that now, thanks
[08:24] <OldPink> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512448 - please?
[08:26] <crysalys> anyone know how to configure wine and install dvd decrypter?
[08:29] <poningru> why...?
[08:29] <poningru> !wine | crysalys
[08:29] <ubotu> crysalys: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:31] <crysalys> poningru: i need a program to create dvd iso and then copy to a disk
[08:33] <poningru> genisoimg or something like that
[08:33] <poningru> !info geniso
[08:33] <ubotu> Package geniso does not exist in gutsy
[08:33] <poningru> !info genisoimage
[08:33] <ubotu> genisoimage: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.6-1 (gutsy), package size 551 kB, installed size 1348 kB
[08:33] <poningru> crysalys: is it a data? or video?
[08:34] <crysalys> poningru: video
[08:37] <Clinton__> Can someone tell me which wine version is currently planned for inclusion into feisty+1?
[08:38] <poningru> found it
[08:38] <poningru> doh
[09:04] <Clinton__> is there anyone here who can do a quick apt-cache search to tell me what version of whine is currently in feisty+1?
[09:06] <crdlb> !info wine gutsy
[09:06] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.41-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 31833 kB, installed size 99684 kB
[09:06] <Clinton__> !info wine gutsy
[09:07] <Clinton__> hrm... and how stable is feisty+1 currently considered?
[09:08] <sq89> Clinton__: some people blogged about using it daily, but every update might break your installation permanently
[09:08] <Clinton__> how long between updates?
[09:09] <crdlb> if you use gutsy, you should expect breakage
[09:09] <sq89> I guess there are updates every day, you can choose not to install them
[09:09] <crdlb> it may work fine, but you should never rely on that
[09:09] <Clinton__> *nod*
[09:09] <sq89> the tribe releases are considered a little bit more stable I think, so you could use them and don't update until the next tribe
[09:10] <Clinton__> alright, thanks for your info guys
[09:36] <mon^rch> im going to try gutsy... any suggestions?
[09:45] <adam__> hi there
[09:46] <adam__> i heard that the desktop effects will be enabled by default in gutsy. Will it be enabled using xgl as well?
[10:17] <kenro> I can't phrase a good question, so let's just dive heaflong into stupidity: Why is udevd eating 70%+ of my cpu?
[10:20] <kenro> 710 Seems to be the only one that'll work on my lappy. I can't wait til hte gibbno is released officially.
[10:21] <kenro> Any more Gibbno clubmembers out there having trouble with udevd?
[10:21] <finalbeta> yes
[10:21] <finalbeta> search launchpad, I found the bug when I had the problem
[10:21] <kenro> Is a bug then?
[10:22] <kenro> bot attack
[10:22] <kenro> apparantly ineffectual...
[10:22] <finalbeta> 70% cpu hardly seems like normal behaviour
[10:22] <kenro> It isn't.
[10:23] <Catsceo> test
[10:23] <Catsceo> ok, no +m here
[10:23] <finalbeta> Freedomnet is probably under attack 24/7 by some kid.
[10:23] <kenro> Is established as a bug? Or is spurious/kneejerk?
[10:25] <kenro> finalbeta: You said you found it listed on a bugtracker?
[10:25] <kenro> udevd?
[10:25] <finalbeta> Yes, can't find it right now, launchpad is a mess
[10:26] <finalbeta> people don't report against gutsy but against ubuntu, so bleh
[10:26] <finalbeta> I'f i'm correct, removing evms and rebooting solved the issue
[10:26] <finalbeta> but if you need evms, whatever it does, then that's not an option
[10:27] <kenro> checking the status of my file repo, evms
[10:29] <finalbeta> Launchpad has gotten sourceforge slow.
[10:31] <finalbeta> Can't find it, lost in cyberspace...
[10:31] <kenro> HaHaHa evms is for when you have lots of little hdd spread remotely that should function as one HDD.
[10:33] <kenro> And I have it installed. Beats me why. Maybe something to do with that vinum? manager kubuntu installs stock.
[10:33] <kenro> mdadm
[10:34] <kenro> If I could figure out how to unlace that without unzipping my entire system...
[10:37] <kenro> I kinda figured mdadm would cause problems, as I didn't even need it. hmmm... now kde sysmon cpu meter has a band of orange along the top.
[10:38] <kenro> finalbeta: Still there?
[10:38] <finalbeta> back now
[10:38] <kenro> ah
[10:39] <finalbeta> had to get my USB disk to mount under Gusty, something that's half broken
[10:39] <kenro> Well... thanks for reminding me of md vol management...
[10:39] <finalbeta> two of my disks no longer work, one of my disks makes weird noises when I hook it up to a gutsy PC :p
[10:40] <kenro> you do md?
[10:40] <finalbeta> No, and I just removed evms and the 100% CPU thing was solved
[10:40] <kenro> you do multidisk?
[10:40] <kenro> oh
[10:40] <finalbeta> no, standard laptop
[10:41] <kenro> sorry, slow typist
[10:41] <masterloki> how long has anyone ran gusty continuously with out having to restart it
[10:41] <finalbeta> You lucky, found the url to the bugreport in this firefox (just changed PC's, I'm here though a VNC session)
[10:42] <finalbeta> bug 123050
[10:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 123050 in udev "udevd uses 140% CPU (dup-of: 115616)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123050
[10:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115616 in evms "Device-mapper errors: dm-linear, lookup failed" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115616
[10:42] <kenro> 140%!?
[10:42] <kenro> Not possible.
[10:42] <finalbeta> He gives it a nice explanation :p
[10:43] <concept10> is there some ubuntu windows installer similar to the debian one?
[10:44] <kenro> Well, my system now minus evms, udevd still psychotic, and a band of bad niceness across my cpu meter.
[10:44] <kenro> renice udevd?
[10:45] <finalbeta> reboot the system
[10:46] <finalbeta> or just halt the process
[10:46] <finalbeta> next time you boot it wont be acting nuts
[10:46] <kenro> oh right phooey. With all these other things I've started. What about mdadm? Should that come off, too?
[10:47] <finalbeta> no
[10:48] <kenro> No? I have no volume arrays...
[10:49] <finalbeta> it's not needed to fix the 100% cpu thing
[10:49] <finalbeta> should you remove it or not
[10:49] <finalbeta> it's your own system, you figure that one out.
[10:49] <kenro> Right.
[10:51] <kenro> masterloki:  BTW, I ran 710 for 8 hours once without reboot.
[10:53] <kenro> finalbeta:  I have no idea why the uninstall was so smooth this time. I remember it wanting to take things I wanted to stay on.
[10:55] <kenro> masterloki:  I'm sure, with this udev problem, I almost broke something, but I proved to myself that a 43 year old could still stay up all night and be bright-n-bushy come morning. Of course, there were times during the day I went narcoleptic and drooled tobacco all over myself.
[10:57] <kenro> That last part was just for effect, and you'll never know whether I'm lieing about it. :P
[11:01] <DShepherd> man. anyone here on gutsy and have played with multiple monitors? fiesty so not so bad with an nvidia card.. but it doesnt seem to autodetect stuff. What's your experience with gutsy and mutiple monitors like?
[11:02] <masterloki> that is kewl so far I have ran gusty for 24+ hours and not have to reboot it
[11:02] <techII> hmm, probably should get around to doing that...
[11:03] <finalbeta> Wow, installing flash wroked straight from inside firefox in Gutsy
[11:03] <kenro> Much better, now.
[11:03] <DShepherd> finalbeta, did it install the firefox from the repos? or the one from the macromedia's website/
[11:04] <DShepherd> s/firefox/flash
[11:04] <finalbeta> I'm guessing macromedia's site
[11:04] <finalbeta> but they could have modded firefox
[11:04] <finalbeta> macromedia's site
[11:05] <DShepherd> finalbeta, ok....hmm
[11:07] <kenro> I still say I had multidisk management only because I thought something I wanted would be uninstalled...
[11:08] <kenro> finalbeta: thanks.
[11:10] <kenro> Anyone know a good copy of festival for 710?
[11:13] <kenro> tj I want my lappy to sound like Captain Pecard...
[11:33] <mon^rch> can anyone help me get my four desktops back
[11:42] <xst> According to the blueprints xorg7.3 will be a part of gutsy. Does anyone know when it will be implemented in any of the test CDs?
[11:50] <sq89> hi! my laptop display is fine when I've removed /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but displayconfig-gtk won't start. is there any way to create a xorg.conf based on my current settings? I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, but xorg didn't want to star then


[07:46] <SteveRiley_> !find locale-archive
[07:54] <SteveRiley_> !find kcm_locale
[09:08]  * Riddell updates http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html
[11:20] <Riddell> 4.9.2 working for me
[11:21] <Riddell> !testers
[11:21] <Riddell> 4.9.2 needs testing for quantal in ninjas
[11:21] <Riddell> now, what to do with it
[11:21] <Riddell> ScottK: you say you wouldn't want it in the main archive?
[11:21] <soee> Riddell, ill test when i get home ~ 20:00 cet
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Which?
[12:58] <Riddell> ScottK: KDE SC 4.9.2
[12:58] <Riddell> the latest and greatest with bugfixes a plenty
[12:59] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  Please.
[13:00] <Riddell> ScottK: groovy, I'll upload it to -proposed
[13:00] <ScottK> Cool.
[14:13] <Riddell> agateau, afiestas, Quintasan_: brian@bryton should be e-mailing you to confirm your name is the same as on your passport, then we can book the flights
[14:24] <Riddell> hah, got a missed call which I thought was somebody important but turned out to be a guy wanting to know if there was equivalent software to sony soundthing
[14:24] <Riddell> hard to tell someone to go elsewhere when it's me who phoned him (back)
[14:25] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:29] <agateau> :)
[15:38] <Peace-> apachelogger: ping
[15:43] <ScottK> Riddell: I think language pack updates can go straight to -release.
[15:49] <afiestas> Riddell: okz
[15:51] <Riddell> ScottK: yeah, onto those now
[18:48] <soee> Riddell,
[18:48] <Riddell> yo
[18:48] <soee> ill do an upgrade now to 4.9.2
[18:48] <soee> just let me check if i have ninjas ppa
[18:48] <doko> Riddell, ScottK: I did seed libpam-xdg-support in desktop-common, so it shows up on the kubuntu desktop as well. as an xdg spec it should be there. if not, please shout
[18:50] <Riddell> doko: yes that should wo9rk
[18:50] <Riddell> work
[18:50] <doko> ok, thanks
[18:53] <genii-around> There were some dependency issues this morning for me with kdelibs5-dev
[18:55] <Riddell> greyback: in quantal?
[18:55] <Riddell> mm sorry bad tab
[18:55] <Riddell> genii-around: in quantal?
[18:56] <greyback> Riddell: I am yep :)
[18:56] <genii-around> Riddell: Yes, with ninja ppa
[18:57] <genii-around> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256613/
[18:58] <Riddell> genii-around: on that's fine, just a mistake I made then fixed
[18:58] <Riddell> genii-around: you know how to work around it?
[18:59] <genii-around> Riddell: I just manually tracked down the packages it complained of ending in ppa3 and did dpkg -i on them from the cache
[19:00] <JontheEchidna> !info muon-discover quantal
[19:01] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: ^
[19:01] <shadeslayer> wat
[19:01] <shadeslayer> then https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon
[19:01] <shadeslayer> is wrong
[19:01] <shadeslayer> ( the package listing at the top )
[19:01] <JontheEchidna> it probably only lists the current non-devel release for the binary packages
[19:01] <Riddell> I have muon-discover: Installed: 1.4.1-0ubuntu1
[19:01] <shadeslayer> mmm maybe
[19:02] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I take it the muon replacing jockey thing never happened?
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> eh, no, sorry. :(
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> I never remembered to get in touch with barry
[19:02] <soee> kdelibs5-dev dependency problems
[19:02] <Riddell> I didn't think that would be an easy thing to do
[19:02] <soee> leaving unconfigured
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> it wouldn't be too bad of a task if you could make python3 kde plugins
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> (where you = anybody)
[19:03] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: why does it need python?  muon is c++
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> to utilize the common driver detection bits that Ubuntu has
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> see: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UbuntuDrivers/detect.py
[19:05] <Riddell> mm
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> ideally you'd have something that could use the UbuntuDrivers module to check what driver packages are available, and then you could just use qapt-batch to run the install
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> otherwise you have to re-code all the modalias detection and such in c++
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> the kicker is that the UbuntuDrivers module is py3k, and python-kde4 doesn't support py3k
[19:06] <Riddell> it does
[19:06] <Riddell> ubiquity uses that
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> it does in a limited fashion
[19:06] <Riddell> but probably not for plugins
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> exactly
[19:07] <Riddell> in kcm at least
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> if it needs kpythonpluginfactory, you can't make it in py3k
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> barry started to do a py3 port of kpythonpluginfactory, but we never got it to the point where it could load a KCModule
[19:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we should get something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
[19:10] <Riddell> gosh how did they get so many?
[19:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: trouble with pages like that is they end up never being updated
[19:10] <Riddell> but go for it, or convince someone like mparillo to go for it
[19:10] <shadeslayer> yeah, thats what I was thinking :P
[19:28] <shadeslayer> !find icui18n
[19:38] <genii-around> soee: These were the commands I issued to fix it this morning ( I was in sudo -i , hence no sudo commands in the paste) : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1256698/
[19:38] <soee> genii-around, loooks like simple apt-get -f install worked
[19:39] <genii-around> soee: Ah, nevermind then :-)
[19:42] <yofel> shadeslayer: as a matter of fact we do have a few people's names on our wiki pages with the contributing information
[19:43] <yofel> so either improve that OR make a contact page like ^, but please not both
[19:43] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[19:43] <yofel> (I do agree that we lack on the contact info side though)
[19:44] <yofel> hm... 702 updates, yummy
[19:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: I do like their idea of documenting people's expertise though. I don't want to be a "mentor", no time for that right now. But if people know what to ask me about I don't mind being asked.
[19:54] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[19:58] <Riddell> I think I need to go to bed, there's a few packages in kubuntu-ninjas for precise that could do with being fixed to compile then tested then released
[20:01]  * ScottK is about to mass accept 4.9.2 for quantal-proposed.
[20:08] <yofel> 4.92 upgraded fine here
[20:10] <shadeslayer> 4.92? :O
[20:11] <shadeslayer> are you from the future?
[20:11] <shadeslayer> Did they forget to release FF?
[20:11] <shadeslayer> FF5 I mean :P
[20:25] <ScottK> OK.  4.9.2 all in quantal-proposed.
[20:32] <yofel> shadeslayer: more like my keyboard needed some cleaning...
[20:35] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:35] <shadeslayer> any ideas where kdm stores it's prefered session?
[20:39] <snele> shadeslayer: /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc :)
[20:42] <snele> or maybe not :)
[20:43] <shadeslayer> nah, that's not what I want ;)
[21:11] <shadeslayer> ScottK: bug 1054084 still needs a upload
[21:32] <shadeslayer> any ideas how to fix this armhf FTBFS : http://paste.kde.org/561308/
[21:55] <ScottK> shadeslayer: OK.  Please be fixing https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118158534/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.kde-baseapps_4%3A4.9.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:56] <shadeslayer> ../../../konq-plugins/dirfilter/dirfilterplugin.h:28:37: fatal error: kparts/listingextension.h: No such file or directory
[21:56] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:56] <shadeslayer> !find listingextension.h
[21:56] <shadeslayer> w00t
[21:57] <ScottK> Also https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118161611/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.juk_4%3A4.9.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:08] <ScottK> shadeslayer: kmymoney backport done.
[22:08] <shadeslayer> awesome :)
[22:52] <Quintasan_> Riddell: I forgot to take my passport with me to wroclaw, will send him the information tomorrow.
[22:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: still there?
[22:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: yeah
[22:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/Tablet/IMAG0335.jpg && http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17090527/Tablet/IMAG0334.jpg
[22:53] <Quintasan> now this looks interesting
[22:53] <Quintasan> how does it work?
[22:54] <shadeslayer> how does what work?
[22:54] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: also, that's a armhf install
[22:54] <shadeslayer> and is a bit more usable
[22:54] <shadeslayer> still no hw acceleration though
[22:54] <shadeslayer> ( maybe we can figure it out at UDS )
[22:55] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: pinching etc works as well
[22:55] <Quintasan> armhf wont help us much with the poor performance
[22:55] <Quintasan> I heard nvidia released tegra docs
[22:55] <shadeslayer> they're going to
[22:56] <shadeslayer> and you have to sign a NDA
[22:56] <Quintasan> That might get things rolling
[22:56] <shadeslayer> don't think so
[22:56] <shadeslayer> having only partial info about hardware is just as bad as having no info
[22:56] <Quintasan> I see.
[22:56] <Quintasan> Well, no hw accel means shit works
[22:56] <Quintasan> But slow as hell
[22:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's not slow as hell
[22:57] <Quintasan> Not the most pleasurable testing environment but better than nothing
[22:57] <Quintasan> How did you install it?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> it's not OMG snappy as well
[22:57] <Quintasan> u-boot or some other black magic?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> I just dd'd the armhf ubuntu.img to p7 and flashed the kernel
[22:58] <shadeslayer> the armhf ubuntu.img is very basic, has some Linux_for_Tegra stuff in there as well
[22:58] <Quintasan> quantal or precise?
[22:58] <Quintasan> the release image?
[22:58] <shadeslayer> precise
[22:58] <shadeslayer> no
[22:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852702
[22:59] <shadeslayer> the one from there
[22:59] <shadeslayer> the scripts are a bit crap though
[23:00] <Quintasan> But they work or I need to look at them?
[23:00] <shadeslayer> oh and then you'll have to compile homerun on your machine
[23:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: they work ...
[23:00] <Quintasan> homerun? what's this?
[23:00] <shadeslayer> the thing in the screenshots
[23:00] <shadeslayer> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/homerun
[23:00] <shadeslayer> agateau is working on it
[23:01] <Quintasan> agateau++
[23:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Thanks for letting me know, I didn't do anything with tf for a while. I'll definitely give it a spin and keep it for UDS
[23:02] <shadeslayer> ;)
[23:02] <Quintasan> Well
[23:02] <Quintasan> off to bed since I have uni stuff tomorrow early
[23:03] <shadeslayer> bye
[23:03] <Quintasan> this week is so damn unorganised
[23:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the only reason I spent the last 2 days figuring out the various bits was to try homerun on the tf
[23:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer or Quintasan: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118159142/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-i386.kdegames_4%3A4.9.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:23] <shadeslayer> I've fixed baseapps, needed kdelibs5-data
[23:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Need fixes asap so we can get 4.9.2 into quantal proper.
[23:23] <shadeslayer> right
[23:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you upload?
[23:23] <shadeslayer> about it
[23:23] <shadeslayer> *about to
[23:23] <ScottK> (to quantal-proposed)
[23:23] <ScottK> Excellent.
[23:23] <shadeslayer> right :)
[23:28] <shadeslayer> I have a 1 second lag so everything is *slow*
[23:28] <shadeslayer> ScottK: kde-baseapps uploaded
[23:29] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer: juk next?
[23:29] <shadeslayer> ye
[23:29] <shadeslayer> yep
[23:29] <ScottK> Great.
[23:29] <shadeslayer> !find tiostream.h
[23:29] <shadeslayer> that doesn't look right
[23:30] <ScottK> No.
[23:30] <ScottK> It's taglib
[23:30] <shadeslayer> well ...it does find taglib ... hmm
[23:31] <ScottK> Is our taqlib package FUBAR?
[23:31] <ScottK> Maybe a path issue.
[23:32] <shadeslayer> looking
[23:35] <ScottK> Don't forget to update bzr too.
[23:35] <shadeslayer> right, I'll do that at the end :)
[23:35] <ScottK> OK.
[23:36] <ScottK> No diff in the queue yet.  I'll come back later and check.  Keep going.
[23:37] <shadeslayer> taglib is foobared I believe
[23:40] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/561362/
[23:47] <ScottK> Please be fixing ...
[23:49] <shadeslayer> yus
[23:49] <shadeslayer> ScottK: taglib uploaded
[23:50] <shadeslayer> bleh
[23:50] <shadeslayer> taglib rejected because I don't have the rights
[23:53] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you apply this debdiff http://paste.ubuntu.com/1257087/ and upload?