[06:27] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: password was very simple... i do not even know how to change sudo password :(
[06:27] <punkass> thanks, everything else is working fine...just a couple updates ago i ran into that..just curious if anyone else had
[06:28] <madewokherd> Coag: I don't think you can get wine on amd64
[06:28] <daskog> Ok
[06:28] <Hendikins> daskog: I use x86_64 Linux on a daily basis to do Real Work[TM] . They're perfectly usable.
[06:28] <madewokherd> so you'd either have to force it somehow, build it yourself, or use qemu
[06:28] <Hendikins> madewokherd: Crossover runs fine on x86_64.
[06:28] <daskog> Probaly iam
[06:28] <heatxsink_> hello all
[06:28] <Coag> that would suck madewokherd
[06:28] <Coag> anyways
[06:28] <Coag> i've got to go for now :/
[06:28] <eobanb> daskog, if you want makers of proprietary software (codecs, drivers, etc) to write 64-bit versions, you'll have to contact them and ask them; otherwise we can't do anything about it
[06:28] <heatxsink_> anyone in here know if the saa7134 kernel module irq kernel problem was fixed in the latest kernel?
[06:28] <Hendikins> and if Crossover runs, wine is obviously capable of running on x86_64
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, The password for sudo is the same as the password of the user created during the default install.  Sudo doesn't use a separate password, but the login one of users in the sudoers file.
[06:29] <eobanb> as far as i know, wine runs just fine on x86-64.
[06:29] <madewokherd> but is it in the ubuntu repositories for 64?
[06:29] <madewokherd> wait a second
[06:29] <eobanb> wine is free software, so yes, it is available for all three platforms
[06:29] <TuxOtaku> anyone know where i can find a deb for firefox 1.5?
[06:30] <Hendikins> madewokherd: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so I wouldn't know. I just know that wine works on x86_64.
[06:30] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: im now in logged as diferent user and can not login no more as main user
[06:30] <Toran> how can I install the IPTables::IPv4 perl module?
[06:31] <sklav> look for it on synaptic
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Well then, insert language not acceptable to actually type in this channel here.
[06:31] <eobanb> usernewbie, i don't get what you expect us to say; if you dont have the password for the main user, you can't do anything, and you'll have to recover with a liveCD or re-install or something like that.  sorry.
[06:31] <daskog> Ok my last question! this goes out to those who do a lot of testing...How is the stability compared with Ubuntu x86-64 and Suse x86-64? reason i ask i cause i built my pc for graphics production (Xsi5, Shake etc)
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, Can you change passwords from a Live CD?!?
[06:31] <sklav> boot into single user mode
[06:31] <sklav> you can change the password
[06:32] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, this is what bios/bootloader passwords are for :)
[06:32] <daskog> Btw how could he loggin if he dont know the password?
[06:32] <sklav> i think you need to add --single on the boot menu by typing e on grub
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, I've also heard of some tricks for accessing a root console, which you might be able to use if they haven't been disabled.
[06:32] <usernewbie> eobanb: how can I reset password from LiveCD?
[06:32] <eobanb> daskog, he logged in as a different user on the system.
[06:32] <eobanb> usernewbie, i dont know, i've never had to do that
[06:32] <Toran> It isn't in synaptic
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, And I do have that set.  Still a little bit taken aback though.
[06:32] <madewokherd> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/ <-- I'm not seeing anything 64-bit there
[06:33] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, well it makes sense, doesnt it?
[06:33] <sklav> toran if its a perl module so a seacrh for perl and scoll down the list
[06:33] <glasseye1> hey can anyone point me to a page that lists linux compatible wireless cards?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, Well, I suppose.
[06:33] <Jinkguns> which should I use, linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS> or linux-headers-2.6.12-386?
[06:33] <Toran> sklav: It isn't in the list!
[06:33] <Toran> I did that already.
[06:33] <sklav> Toran,  install cpan
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, You'd just have to mount the actual disk into the working live session and go from there then I suppose, right?
[06:33] <sklav> and install it from there
[06:33] <jdmpike> so what do you use to purchase songs on the internet when you run linux?
[06:33] <Toran> I tried installing it with cpan and it spat compile errors
[06:33] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, yeah, i'd imagine it involves chrooting a few times
[06:34] <sklav> not the best way but since ur using a package manager 100% of the time but its another option
[06:34] <madewokherd> jdmpike: use a browser?
[06:34] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: can I be hacked even if im behind router and have 3 ports open on that router?
[06:34] <Toran> IPv4.xs:379: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'iptc_get_references' differ in signedness
[06:34] <jdmpike> are there any mp3 services like napster or rhapsody
[06:34] <madewokherd> I think there's an itunes client
[06:34] <jdmpike> I know that iTunes isn't available
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Try reading !grub through the part about hooking into the disk for the live session, and try it from there.
[06:34] <eobanb> jdmpike, there are very few options in terms of desktop software; you could try pymusique or websites like allofmp3 but their legality is questionable
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Maybe.
[06:34] <sklav> Toran by default if not mistaken there are no devel packages installed so it would be hard to compile the perl modules
[06:34] <madewokherd> I'm pretty sure I had an itunes client
[06:34] <madewokherd> on linux
[06:35] <sklav> then again im not sure compiling is required
[06:35] <daskog> Anyone got the WMP54G V4 to work with x86-64 & AMD X2? hurd somthin about SMP messing it up etc
[06:35] <sklav> but make is
[06:35] <eobanb> madewokherd, you're thinking of pymusique.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, madewokherd, SharpMusique.
[06:35] <corhere> glasseye1: this is a good comprehensive list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[06:35] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: thanks man for your help, i will probably do format but i do not want to lose all data there :(
[06:35] <sklav> ok guys im off
[06:35] <jdmpike> madewokherd, I think that the iTunes clone you speak of didn't let you purchase music from applie
[06:36] <corhere> usernewbie: try this http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html
[06:36] <sklav> see u all tomorrow
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, The mounting stuff from !grup isn't too hard, so it's worth checking whether that works.
[06:36] <madewokherd> I see
[06:36] <madewokherd> I'm not actually signed up to itunes so I haven't tried
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, It makes every appearance of doing so.  It took my credit card info.  Haven't actually tested that yet though, just previewed.
[06:36] <eobanb> nice links, corhere
[06:37] <madewokherd> I just use last.fm and allofmp3
[06:37] <usernewbie> brb
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses for a contact?
[06:38] <madewokherd> or buy actual albums, which is usually cheaper than the $.99 per song
[06:38] <theblue> Hi all.
[06:38] <theblue> Is there a way I can have less open a random file from within a directory?
[06:38] <daskog> Ubuntu it is
[06:38] <daskog> Yey
[06:38] <theblue> They files have normal alphanumeric names, not parsable at all for content.
[06:39] <daskog> Do i need a firewall with linux?
[06:39] <boow> about how long does it take for ubuntu cds to arrive its been a month already
[06:39] <theblue> daskog: Yes.
[06:39] <theblue> boow: give it a few more days, remember, you got them for free.
[06:39] <daskog> does Ubuntu have one
[06:39] <eobanb> daskog, depends.
[06:39] <daskog> ?
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> boow, They say 4-6 weeks.
[06:39] <daskog> well im a home user
[06:39] <theblue> boow: And they're being shipped from the Netherlands, so be patient.
[06:39] <intelikey> oh my, oh no, what a terrable error; ubuntu installer red screen of error.  "no network interfaces detected"   what ever shall i do ?
[06:39] <theblue> daskog: You'd like Firestarter, then.
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> boow, Mine was a bit longer the first time.
[06:40] <boow> i thought they were located in the us
[06:40] <eobanb> daskog, if you're behind nat i'd say there isnt much of a reason why you'd need a software firewall too
[06:40] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, you haven't purchased any music with this? are the tunes DRM'd
[06:40] <intelikey> well i guess that means i can't use ubuntu....
[06:40] <theblue> boow: Nope, Canonical (Ubuntu's parent foundation) is in the Isle of Man, and the Shipit center is in the Netherlands.
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> boow, No.  The distro originated in the Isle of Man, and ShipIt comes out of the Netherlands.
[06:40] <theblue> boow: Not everything that has English is in the US.
[06:41] <theblue> Jinx, tonyyarusso.
[06:41] <daskog> But i dont understand who whants to Hack my Linux box?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Really don't know, got the client recently and haven't played with it yet.
[06:41] <holycow> bah, dpkg is hung up and can't be killed
[06:41] <theblue> daskog: Same people who want to attack your Windows box, but Linux is more secure.
[06:41] <daskog> Ohh
[06:41] <holycow> if you can't kill zombie proceses, the only thing you can do is wait for the kernel to kill theprocess it self?
[06:42] <theblue> holycow: Did you try the killall command?
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> theblue, Very true.  But don't think I'm going to actually stop talking until a mouse that looks like the President walks backwards across my left foot or anything.
[06:42] <boow> i was thinking of getting broadband so i'll probably have it installed by the time the cds arrive
[06:42] <madewokherd> zombie processes are already dead
[06:42] <holycow> yep
[06:42] <theblue> holycow: Or killing it using top?
[06:42] <ColonelPanique> holycow : don't fret on no stankin' zombie process ;-)
[06:42] <theblue> tonyyarusso: Owe.
[06:42] <holycow> top doesn't kill anything, it just lists porcesses
[06:42] <madewokherd> if you kill the parent (or the parent checks on them), they'll go away
[06:42] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: how can I switch to main user from command line?
[06:42] <theblue> tonyyarusso: Can you just owe me a Coca Cola, then?
[06:42] <madewokherd> but yeah, there's probably no reason to worry about them
[06:43] <Toma--> holycow: does top say there are any zombies?
[06:43] <holycow> madewokherd, what if it doesn't have a parent?  or rather how do you find out if it does?
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, su theirusername
[06:43] <madewokherd> I'm not sure of a command line way, gnome system monitor can tell you :/
[06:43] <holycow> Toma--, top -i lists processes on 'hold' or whatever its called
[06:43] <salty> hi guys
[06:43] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, how did you install deb, I am getting circular dependancy issues with libglade, libgtk, etc
[06:43] <holycow> i didn't see a switch to show zombie status
[06:43] <ara> what's the command to take the little red "X" symbol off from a folder?
[06:43] <salty> how goes it
[06:43] <eobanb> jdmpike, what are you trying to install
[06:44] <ColonelPanique> holycow : you cannot kill a zombie process homey
[06:44] <madewokherd> it's under status
[06:44] <Toma--> holycow: just run "top" and look at the top left
[06:44] <holycow> top
[06:44] <holycow> bah wrong window :)
[06:44] <Toma--> in a terminal :D
[06:44] <Toma--> hehehe
[06:44] <jdmpike> eobanb sharpmusique
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, A standalone deb that you downloaded you mean?  If it can't to it automatically, try installing the packages it mentions and then trying again.
[06:44] <salty> we noticed :)
[06:44] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, the packages it needs all depend on one another, so they won't install
[06:44] <holycow> where would it state status?
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> holycow : uhhh under the column heading 'S" ;-)
[06:45] <Toma--> holycow: it'll say "0 zombie" hopefully up the top, at the end of the 2nd line
[06:45] <ara> tonyyarusso , hi
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Do them all at once.
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> ara: Hello.
[06:45] <salty> ok people. i have two webcams, one registers as v4l and the other as v4l2, both do not work
[06:45] <ara> tonyyarusso, have a question
[06:45] <salty> has anyone had any luck with webcams?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> ara: Go ahead.
[06:46] <Toran> How do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?
[06:46] <holycow> there is no column 's'
[06:46] <holycow> oh there it is
[06:46] <ara> tonyyarusso, what's the command to take that little red "X" symbol off from a folder?
[06:46] <nemik> hello, i'm having a problem. i shut down the computer normally, but it now won't come back into gnome. login page looks fine and i log in, but box that show nautilus and stuff loading never comes up. :(
[06:46] <ColonelPanique> holycow : no column S in top?
[06:46] <corhere> i am having problems with ehci_hcd loading (with hotplug?) on startup and i would like to stop that. i added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it didnt affect it. any suggestions?
[06:46] <jrattner1> What applications would people recomend for PERSONAL finance?
[06:46] <salty> gnu money heh
[06:46] <holycow> eh dpkg is labeled R then D iteratively ... let me look that up
[06:47] <Toma--> jrattner1: gnucash
[06:47] <jrattner1> Toma--, yeh? ok
[06:47] <PuRo> i downloaded network manager for my wireless management-during start-up it takes a while to load is there away to speed up the load process on it for my internet to be ready the moment im logging in?
[06:47] <Toran> How do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: Not sure.  Ask the whole channel.
[06:48] <holycow> right, uninterruptable
[06:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: A red 'x' that covers the entire folder icon?
[06:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: It means you don't have read access to that folder.
[06:48] <nemik> does anyone know how i can fix this? it is just a blank screen with the brown wallpaper and i can move the mouse, but nothing else happens
[06:48] <ara> no it's just a little one
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, I think that was to you ^.
[06:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: I saw
[06:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: maybe it's my theme... for me that's the only one I've seen that looks like that >.<
[06:50] <ColonelPanique> holycow : so it is just sleeping, not a zombie- kill it with sudo killall -9 dpkg
[06:50] <intelikey> nemik ctrl+alt+backspace  will restart X for you, although that may not fix it.
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: But if I'm right, it means you don't have read access to the folder.
[06:50] <madewokherd> nemik: did you try the "failsafe gnome" session?
[06:50] <ara> PuMpErNiCkLe is there any command to make the permission?
[06:50] <intelikey> ara  chmod
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: Which means opening a terminal and doing 'sudo chown ara /path/to/folder'
[06:50] <holycow> ColonelPanique, unfortunately that doesn't work :/ process is still there
[06:51] <nemik> intelikey: i tried that, did not work
[06:51] <intelikey> ownership chown  permission chmod ara
[06:51] <nemik> madewokherd, thanks i'll try the failsafe gnome now
[06:51] <salty> holycow you gonna have to reboot, imho.
[06:51] <ColonelPanique> holycow : well it may be heading to zombie land soon enough then if -9 doesn't get it
[06:51] <intelikey> nemik failsafe  or single
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: I'm assuming it's not ara's to begin with - if it is, it'd just be chmod 600 /path
[06:52] <holycow> alrighty then ... how do i notify any and all users the machine is going down for a reboot?
[06:52] <ColonelPanique> holycow : wall
[06:52] <intelikey> although  you could drop to console and try to fix it from there
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: sudo reboot -n ;)
[06:52] <holycow> danke :)
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: NO
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: I was joking!
[06:52] <holycow> PuMpErNiCkLe, i'm aware of what y our line means :)
[06:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> w00t
[06:53] <nemik> intelikey: i tried CTL ALT F1 and i'm in a terminal. but /etc/init.d/gdm start to load gnome does not work
[06:53] <nemik> it fails
[06:53] <rhos> hey everyone i have installed both gtk-gnutella and frostwire but neither will open after intallation can anyone give me a few tips
[06:53] <intelikey> ! terminal     console
[06:53] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: open a terminal, type gtk-gnutella , and give us any errors that show up
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, ColonelPanique: How could you put those messages through to XOSD for those not in terminals?
[06:54] <intelikey> nemik do a 'sudo killall gdm '    and use startx so you can see any errors it spews
[06:54] <rhos> ok
[06:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: There're programs that interract with X sessions... I've read about them somewhere...
[06:55] <rhos> gtk-gnutella: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Would anyone be willing to examine my gdm script to help me figure out why it breaks console switching?
[06:55] <daskog> Gona install Ubuntu Now...See you all on the other side =P
[06:55] <intelikey> paste it tony
[06:55] <nemik> intelikey, didn't see many errors but now the cursor is an X and background is strange...still nothing going on though
[06:56] <ara> intelikey, it's my filesystem folder, the folder that is connected to my second hard drive, i put it in /etc/fstab to automount it but now i don't have access to it :)!!!
[06:56] <heatxsink_> anyone in here have a saa7134 and cannot get tvtime working?
[06:56] <B-166_ER-X> i have some errors with amsn if someone can point me ...please ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6528
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: You're missing a library... open synaptic, search for libgtk, and install libgtk1.2
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and libgtk1.2-common
[06:57] <rhos> ok thankyou
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and libgtk1.2-dev
[06:57] <intelikey> nemik sounds like x is starting ok.  it is just your desktop env that is not doing what you want.  look in your home dir for .*rc  files and check which window manager or desktop is set
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and that should cover it :)
[06:57] <nemik> intelikey: thanks i'll look at it
[06:58] <intelikey> ara ok.  lets see the tstab line
[06:58] <Jinkguns> I ask you, what the hell are kernel headers supposed to do? I thought they were for building 3rd party kernel modules without compiling a new kernel! But when I run make in the directory to create this module I get **No rule to make target 'usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/scripts/Makefile.modinst'
[06:58] <jrattner1> Is there any program, that will let me set my gnome desktop to a slideshow, SIMILARLY to KDE and its slideshow feature
[06:58] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, ok, so I am logged in, I can't seem to get the preview to work...
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, You mean changing the background?
[06:59] <Jinkguns> I'm running make in /usr/src/SRanger/modules-2.6.X/ in case anyone wants to try and help.
[06:59] <intelikey> nemik  .sessionrc   .wmrc  and the like.....
[06:59] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, yeh, but so i can use a slideshow of photos that will change every once in a while
[06:59] <intelikey> or .Xsession
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Mine took a long time to load, but I'm on dialup.  You see files, and can right click, but the preview option does nothing?
[07:00] <nemik> intelikey: i'm trying a failsafe gnome now
[07:00] <nemik> ok, i think it is going now
[07:00] <fangorious> is there a gnome notification area applet for gnome-keyring, like the kwallet-manager?
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, I don't know if there is an existing easy way, but I do have instructions for a Gnome hack that will let you do that in a book, and if you really want I could pm those two pages to you.
[07:01] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, yeh please
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Okay, here we go.
[07:01] <nemik> intelikey: so what is the difference between the 'last' and 'failsafe GNOME' sessions setting in GDM? why did failsafe work?
[07:01] <corhere> is there anybody out there who can help me with my question? any suggestions, sites, anything would be helpful. my question (to repeat) is how can i prevent ehci-hcd kernel module (usb2 controller) from loading at boot-time. I have tried putting ehci_hcd in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it did not work.
[07:01] <jrattner1> There must be an easier way
[07:01] <ColonelPanique> Jinkguns : i think you need to install the actual kernel headers, ala: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:02] <rhos> another quick question is there any way to convert mpg to linux and .jpg to linux
[07:02] <madewokherd> I'm actually not sure what failsafe does
[07:02] <intelikey> last was not failsafe but next time last will be failsafe.   last is the last session you started.
[07:02] <madewokherd> I thought it just loaded a terminal :/
[07:02] <intelikey> nemik ^
[07:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: They should work perfectly well under linux
[07:02] <TTilus> corhere: dunno if bl doesnt help
[07:02] <fangorious> rhos: that doesn't make sense, what does convert mpg to linux mean?
[07:02] <jrattner1> thanx tonyyarusso
[07:02] <rhos> it says invalid fiel format but it may just be the disk im using is damaged
[07:03] <TTilus> corhere: you could try to lsmod and check what uses ehci_hcd and try to blacklist that one too
[07:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: o_O
[07:03] <TTilus> corhere: dunno if it works though
[07:03] <rhos> thank you and have a good night all
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> rhos, Oh, they're plenty valid.  I use both frequently.
[07:03] <corhere> TTilus: that would be usbcore
[07:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g'night rhos
[07:03] <holycow> heh, the flash plugin just asked me for permmission to allow a flash dealy on a site to access my webcam
[07:03] <holycow> *sigh*
[07:04] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i'm like you.  if it is in that file i fail to see it.
[07:04] <holycow> flash is the evil
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> flash is best associated with flashblock :)
[07:04] <nemik> thanks intelikey, i think it should be ok now!
[07:04] <TTilus> corhere: umm, doesnt look like one to be blacklisted...  :(
[07:04] <B-166_ER-X> Seveas, I do have a problem that seem unsolvable to me, now.  I compiled amsn 0.95 but it had a problem (only run with sudo) so i purge'd it, and reinstalled 0.94 but now i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527 any idea or direction ?
[07:04] <ColonelPanique> do you guys smell that?
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Shoot.  I can gdm stop and use startx with console switching just fine, so I figured that must be it.
[07:05] <fangorious> how do i view access to my gnome-keyring?
[07:05] <henry> How do I run cpkg files?
[07:06] <corhere> TTilus: i figured that. maybe commenting out all (both) references to ehci in the /etc/hotplug/usb.rc file?
[07:06] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, yeah, the preview thing doesn't work...
[07:06] <henry> how do I run cpkg files?
[07:06] <holycow> thanks for you help guys, had to reboot :/
[07:06] <ara> intelikey: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6529
[07:07] <corhere> TTilus: but the reference does a maybe_modprobe (func in the file that checks the blacklist first before modprobing)
[07:07] <TTilus> corhere: propably, havent ever tried that (blacklisting has worked)
[07:07] <intelikey> unless it is an error with start-stop-daemon tonyyarusso then i see nothing in that script that would normally cause such....   but have you tried loading the kernel with vga=0x0f05      it may be a framebuffering error.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Hrm.  Not sure why.
[07:07] <intelikey> looking ara
[07:07] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, there is also no progress bar - that would be a nice feature...
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, No, I haven't.
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, It actually worked before, and I broke it, but was unable to determine how.
[07:08] <corhere> TTilus: i think i found the problem: modprobe treats - and _ the same, but the maybe_modprobe function in usb.rc doesn't
[07:08] <TTilus> corhere: have you checked logs to see if theres any traces of blacklisting working or not working
[07:08] <henry> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO EXTRACT CPKG files via a terminal
[07:08] <corhere> TTilis: i think i found my own answer
[07:08] <intelikey> tonyyarusso :)    backups ?
[07:08] <intelikey> ara this line  '/dev/hdb1 /home/ara/mymedia ntfs' ?
[07:08] <TTilus> henry: what are "cpkg" files?  (you hurt my ears, btw)
[07:08] <fangorious> henry: perhaps noboy here knows what a cpkg file is. where did you get it?
[07:09] <ara> intelikey yesw
[07:09] <ara> yes
[07:09] <rhos> im back again sorry lol im trying to change my screen resolution but it only has one setting 640x480 could anyone tell me how to set it to 800x600 or better
[07:09] <intelikey> ara try adding  umask=222
[07:09] <TTilus> corhere: goodness, that sounds like bug
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Of what?  I don't have any idea what changed or when, so I've got nothing that I know of useful.
[07:09] <corhere> TTilus if i knew more with batch-scripting, i would submit a patch
[07:10] <ara> intelikey, no
[07:10] <corhere> i meant bash scripting
[07:10] <henry> fangorious its from wine
[07:10] <intelikey> ara after you add the  umask   then do a 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /home/ara/mymedia '
[07:10] <ara> intelikey, when i mount it manually i put umask=1000 to make it work , but that even didn't work here
[07:10] <henry> how do I run a manifest?
[07:11] <fangorious> henry: do you mean you downloaded a cpkg file from the wine website?
[07:11] <corhere> henry: a google search brings up that a cpkg is a "coolpacker" install package
[07:11] <henry> corhere how would I run that?
[07:11] <nemik> thanks intelikey and others for your help!
[07:11] <nemik> goodnight guys!
[07:12] <corhere> henry you would set the executable flag on it (chmod u+x file) and run it (./file)
[07:12] <ara> intelikey, nothing happened
[07:12] <intelikey> ah tonyyarusso i still sujest framebuffering as the cause.    when you said "you broke it" i thoungt you meant the gdm script it's self.
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Well, I really don't know what I did, just that one day I could switch consoles with gdm running.
[07:13] <Jinkguns> Where do I get the ./configure in /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh ? What package is it?
[07:13] <henry> how do you run manifests?
[07:14] <fangorious> henry: a manifest being a listing of the contents of something (like your cpkg file)?
[07:14] <TTilus> henry: have you checked if the cpkg'd software could be found from ubuntu repos or maybe as deb from elsewhere?
[07:14] <michael> how do i install .deb, .tar.gz, and .tgz files?
[07:14] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i think i have had this happen when X was using fb to access the display,  booting with vga=0   or  vga=0x0f05  will tell you if that is it or not.
[07:14] <XiCillin> anybody do ham radio stuff?
[07:14] <corhere> michael: for deb files dpkg -i debfile
[07:15] <michael> for .tgz?
[07:15] <henry> fangorious it says it has a link to a tgz file
[07:15] <fangorious> michael: tar -xvzf file.tgz
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I'll try that next time I boot.  If it is, what's the fix?
[07:15] <TTilus> michael: first check if its available as deb, maybe from ubuntu repo
[07:15] <michael> ty
[07:15] <corhere> michael: you could also open it in archive manager in GNOME
[07:15] <Phinite> I have an ntfs xp box.  I need to repartition the drive to a smaller size without blowing away the system.  I've booted to a live ubuntu (5.04) but can't find a partitioning tool on the disk itself.  can someone help with this please
[07:16] <intelikey> michael  'tar -xzvf file.tgz  ;cd file ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.
[07:16] <TTilus> michael: to continue fangorious, then cd pkg; make; make install
[07:16] <michael> that it?
[07:16] <TTilus> michael: what did you expect?
[07:17] <VitorBeltrao> How can I unstall Ubuntu and grumb?
[07:17] <fangorious> henry: you're being really vague. you ran some application in wine, which produced a cpkg file, and now you have a manifest which says it has a link to a tgz file. is that right?
[07:17] <michael> I figured it would be confusing
[07:17] <TTilus> michael: furious copy-parties, tap-dancing and quiz-games?
[07:17] <intelikey> TTilus what about a ./configure   or even  a  ./userinstall.sh   or the many helper scripts that coder add ?
[07:17] <fangorious> TTilus: I just assumed a tgz would be more like a slackware binary archive, you just untar it where you want to install it
[07:18] <TTilus> michael: after extracting the package and reading info you _could_ very well be confused  :)
[07:18] <VitorBeltrao> How can I uninstall Ubuntu and grumb?
[07:18] <TTilus> intelikey: mmm, i stand corrected
[07:18] <michael> well, i'm going for cedega
[07:18] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i'm about to give up and have to format...for a aMSN error (well, i still HAVE to make it work)   i'm not trying to just make work my 0.94 version...buti get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527   ..
[07:18] <fangorious> michael: i suggest either searching in synaptic or 'apt-cache search' for relevant keywords to see if a package exists in the repositories
[07:19] <aran> alright someone help me get this installed. i can't boot from the CD but i could boot from floppy given the right floppy
[07:19] <michael> already looked, i was going to try crossover office, but the cost for cedega is better, and better for games - mostly what i want
[07:19] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: "uninstall"?
[07:19] <VitorBeltrao> yes
[07:20] <intelikey> fangorious i concour, michael also be sure you have universe and multiverse repos enabled.
[07:20] <liable> VitorBeltrao: delete the partition and run fixmbr from windows disk
[07:20] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: like what are you going to do?
[07:20] <intelikey> !repos
[07:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:20] <fangorious> michael: and cedega doesn't come with installation instructions?
[07:20] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:20] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: install another os?
[07:20] <aran> please, someone help aran
[07:20] <michael> i didn't look, i want to learn how to install every other file i come across
[07:20] <VitorBeltrao> TTilus, well i delete the partition but i cant not enter in windows after...
[07:21] <fangorious> VitorBeltrao: installing ubuntu would be more like formatting the partition it's installed on
[07:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: If you search online, you can find floppy disk images that will let you do a network install.
[07:21] <aran> aran seeks attention.
[07:21] <fangorious> VitorBeltrao: assuming windows 2k or xp, boot off the windows install cd, go into the repair console, and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'
[07:21] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: see liable's help
[07:21] <aran> yeah but i don't have a server to do a network install from
[07:22] <B-166_ER-X> !amsnnotworkingatallandimabouttoformatthispc
[07:22] <ubotu> B-166_ER-X: Not a clue
[07:22] <intelikey> aran we know that.  but the 'non-cdrom' installs are slim in ub
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> oops
[07:22] <aran> ideally there'd be a bootloader with a CDROM driver, but i couldn't find one
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> sorry
[07:22] <B-166_ER-X> guessed so
[07:22] <TTilus> aran: you can start install from floppy and give cd as package repo
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> TTilus, ok thanks
[07:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: If you have highspeed (dsl or cable or something) you can do an install from the official servers.
[07:22] <gz> edit boot.ini
[07:22] <fangorious> aran, you don't need your own server, just a net connection
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> fangorious, thanks...
[07:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: That's how I installed a couple BSD distros.
[07:23] <aran> so it doesn't help me any to have it downloaded and burned...
[07:23] <nurfe> http://rapidshare.de/files/10296963/Screenshot.png.html /w xfwm4 :)
[07:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: Possibly it does, this is the solution I'm most familiar with. :)
[07:23] <fangorious> aran, there should be a floppy image on the cd that you can use
[07:23] <intelikey> fangorious have you looked ?
[07:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: What fangorious said. ^^
[07:24] <trappist> cool, kernel 2.6.15 just rolled out
[07:24] <aran> fangorious:is there!? any idea where?
[07:24] <fangorious> intelikey: i haven't had a floppy in any of my machines for like 2 years, so i haven't looked for them in quite a while
[07:24] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, thanks for the program, it is a pretty slick interface... I don't know why apple hasn't realeased a 'nix version of itunes... after all MAC is 99.9% unix
[07:25] <corhere> aran: there is this app called smart boot manager, its a bootfloppy where you can select which drive, even cd drives, to continue to boot from
[07:25] <aran> smart boot manager
[07:25] <aran> that's a start
[07:25] <corhere> aran: site http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[07:25] <aran> thanks
[07:26] <corhere> you just boot off the floppy, select cd-rom drive and you're going
[07:26] <aran> nice.
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, I can't help you with the amsn thing, but formatting it all sounds a little drastic.
[07:26] <XiCillin> anybody use gnome predict?
[07:26] <aran> too bad thath tthing doesn't have a higher pagerank
[07:26] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i know. but i really dont have any idea,...and nobody can help :\
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Couldn't you track down all of it's files and delete those rather than formatting everything?
[07:27] <fangorious> i have mail-notification installed, and it sometimes asks for my gnome-keyring passphrase, but no always. It seems very inconsistent and Ive come to realise I have no indication at any given time as to what is accessing my keyring. anyone know of anything resembling KDE's kwallet-manager to list keyrings and what applications are accessing which data?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, All right, that's done.
[07:28] <michael> DANG - so, is thier any wiki to help explain how linux works? like how things are installed and how they run - and how data is stored, like in the windows registry?
[07:28] <michael> crap like that??
[07:29] <Imsdle> I am trying to setup firestarter using a dialup modem and a lan card. I get sit0 not ready. What is sit0 and how can I select my modem?
[07:29] <Imsdle> btw this is for internet charing
[07:29] <Imsdle> sharing
[07:29] <zzzzzzzzzzzzzz> hi
[07:29] <intelikey> michael rute
[07:29] <fangorious> michael: linux doesn't really have a windows registry, gnome has something xml based called gconf
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> michael, Applications > System > Configuration Editor looks like it resembles the Windows registry to me.
[07:30] <fangorious> michael: applications are installed any number of ways, for ubuntu the best way is to use deb packages (handled with the dpkg command line tool) using dependency trackers like apt (command line) and synaptic (gui)
[07:31] <Aven> hey
[07:31] <intelikey> do a websearch  for 'rute'  it's the big book on linux
[07:31] <fangorious> michael: they also aren't generally installed to a single folder (like \Program Files\Application) but spread out (binaries in /usr/bin, libraries in /usr/lib, config files in /etc)
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> michael, apt-get is seriously sweet, btw.
[07:31] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: it certainly is
[07:31] <Imsdle> anyone used firestarter for internet sharing or can show me how to share my dail up internet connection on ubuntu?>
[07:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: so long as they have what you want in the repositories ;)
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Imsdle: Have you checked to make sure the interface is activated?
[07:32] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe yeah i mean with only 11000 packages to choose from.....
[07:32] <michael> how to uninstall programs installed via a tarball?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, But it still amazes me how many things were there.  There were a bunch that I first went off looking for, and then discovered in the repos after all.
[07:33] <fangorious> michael: do you mean a tar file you extracted, compiled and installed (source tarball) or one you just extracted and started running (binary tarball)?
[07:33] <intelikey> michael  'tar -xzvf <file>.tgz  ;cd <file> ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.
[07:33] <Imsdle> the network is activated... and i can ping and share files betweeen the pcs
[07:33] <michael> installed
[07:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: true, but not always the latest, and not always working
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Is that whole book online, or are those only parts of it?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Granted.
[07:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: ex: BZflag won't work when compiled with GCC4, which is what's in the repository.
[07:34] <fangorious> michael: if you installed it with 'make install' try 'make uninstall'
[07:34] <michael> ty
[07:34] <aran> corhere: smart boot manager doesn't see the CD drive, know of any others?
[07:35] <michael> gnight all - and thanks for putting up with me?
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: I had more fun compiling it myself than playing it :D
[07:35] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it used to be avalable in most distros  so surely you can find a full copy of it on line some place  it's about  40m
[07:35] <corhere> aran: it doesn't? i don't know of any others. sorry.
[07:35] <corhere> you would have to use the uuntu bootfloppy
[07:35] <fangorious> aran: have you looked for a folder called images (or something similar) with a bunch of .bin files on the cd you burned?
[07:36] <aran> images
[07:36] <aran> sec
[07:37] <fangorious> aran: this might be relevant: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[07:37] <fangorious> not sure though, perhaps boot.img.gz is what you're looking for
[07:38] <aran> thanks for the link
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> What's an IPv6 Tunnel (sit0), in terms of firestarter setup?
[07:39] <fangorious> aran: i think this is the breezy install manual, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html#id2514428
[07:40] <aran> ok that netboot folder is also on the cd... how do i turn it into a floppy?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> Can I boot from an ISO for a bootable CD that is saved on the hard disk?
[07:41] <fli7e> tonyyarusso, not to my knowledge
[07:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: If you use qemu, yes.
[07:41] <intelikey> aran there is a w32 app 'rawwrite'   all linux systems have 'dd'
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Okay.
[07:42] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  any idea how can i 'trace' all amsn files and uninstall/install them by hand ?
[07:42] <shade11> Is there an mp3 encoder for BMP???
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, All I'd guess is search for amsn and delete its directories.
[07:42] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, if you mean by name, then you can use find
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: not that I know, specifically, but you can search for 'amns' and search for files created on the same day...
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *amsn
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> that should cover most of it
[07:43] <trappist> if you installed the package, you could dpkg -L amsn
[07:43] <B-166_ER-X> is there a way to search for hidden file with the 'search' app ?
[07:44] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, the find command finds hidden files
[07:44] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, you don't have to do anything special
[07:44] <trappist> B-166_ER-X: hidden files in linux start with . so, find /path -name '.??*' (to omit . and ..)
[07:44] <Hollywood> Hello all!
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: If you're using the GUI, yes, there's an option.
[07:44] <Hollywood> Wow lots of people here.  I'm new to this.
[07:45] <Imsdle> has anyone here configured ubuntu to share a dail up connection for internet sharing
[07:45] <intelikey>    find ~/ -name '*amsn*'   ;find /usr -name '*amsn*'
[07:45] <weekang> how do i configure a daemon to run on startup in ubuntu?
[07:45] <B-166_ER-X> finded it
[07:45] <B-166_ER-X> thx
[07:45] <trappist> intelikey: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[07:45] <aran> rawwrite still needs an img file
[07:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: Places menu / search for files / more options /drop down menu -> show hidden files
[07:45] <Hollywood> <--- wants to know how to chnage refresh rate?
[07:45] <trappist> Hollywood: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <intelikey> trappist is that something i need to look at ?
[07:45] <Hollywood> Thanks butI have no clue what that means.  :(
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> Interesting...Just installed and ran firestarter.  In the last few minutes it's logged 23 serious inbounds.  Can someone help me understand what it's seeing?
[07:46] <Hollywood> Windows convert.  :(
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> (Most of them relate to samba)
[07:46] <trappist> intelikey: no, it's my stupid tab complete again
[07:46] <trappist> Imsdle: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[07:46] <intelikey> k   np
[07:46] <Hollywood> Just copy and paste that somewhere?
[07:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: open a terminal and paste it
[07:47] <Hollywood> Hmmm...
[07:47] <Hollywood> opena terminal huh?
[07:47] <Hollywood> OK brb
[07:47] <shade11> what was it that I had to apt-get in order to install from shell?
[07:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, most of them will be spurious
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Why?
[07:47] <shade11> nvm
[07:47] <sethk> shade11, nothing
[07:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, because it isn't terribly intelligent
[07:47] <Hollywood> How do I open a terminal?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay...
[07:48] <Imsdle> thanks trappist..
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The IP address belong to my ISP, but aren't mine.
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: It should be under Applications/Accessories
[07:48] <Hollywood> Found it!
[07:48] <starscalling> ah
[07:48] <Hollywood> You're a genius!
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :D
[07:48] <starscalling> vewwy fresh install of ubuntu here
[07:48] <starscalling> :D
[07:48] <timfrost> PuMpErNiCkLe,Hollywood should use pastebin
[07:48] <starscalling> !sources
[07:48] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> timfrost: pastebin?
[07:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I'm not sure what you are driving at (w.r.t. the IP address ownership)
[07:48] <intelikey> hollywood   a login console is already waiting on   [ctrl] +[alt] +[F1-6]
[07:48] <starscalling> !hoary guide
[07:48] <ubotu> starscalling: Not a clue
[07:49] <timfrost> ubotu tell PuMpErNiCkLe about pastebin
[07:49] <intelikey> assumes default inittab
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Wondering if it tells me anything.  Curious about what it's logging and why.
[07:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if you want you can put it on the paste bot.  I'll look and I'm sure other people will as well
[07:49] <Hollywood> How much memory should I give my card?
[07:49] <Hollywood> 16?
[07:49] <Hoxzer> eh
[07:49] <Hoxzer> ;)
[07:50] <hydroksyde> hmmm... maybe i'll actually start a GNUStubuntu project (ubuntu with a GNUStep desktop)... but with a better name
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Is there an easy way to copy from it, or do I have to retype it all?
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> timfrost: sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: That depends on the card.
[07:50] <sethk> tonyyarusso, edit the file in a gui editor (gedit, gvim, whatever), and paste it into the entry area of a paste bot web page
[07:50] <Hoxzer> Do you guys know what should I do to get my sounds work with multiple softwares as now they work with only one program at the time
[07:50] <sethk> Hoxzer, run a sound server
[07:50] <vega-> hm, seems eclipse doesn't work very well in breezy
[07:51] <Hoxzer> sethk: how?
[07:51] <vega-> you cannot even install plugins unless you are root
[07:51] <sethk> Hoxzer, it's probably already there.  I use kde, and theirs is artsd.  the one for gnome has a different name, someone?
[07:51] <Hoxzer> I dont think so
[07:52] <sethk> Hoxzer, you don't think it is there?  I mean on the disk, not there running
[07:52] <Detective> There a place where I can find system requirements for Ubuntu?
[07:52] <sethk> Hoxzer, the gnome one is snd, I believe
[07:52] <Hoxzer> sethk: yes, it is not running
[07:52] <Hoxzer> I dunno how to put it on
[07:53] <sethk> Hoxzer, unfortunately I don't know how to start it with the gui, only from the command line.  But someone here will know.
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> sethk and others: My firestarter list is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6530
[07:53] <Hoxzer> sethk: well tell me how to do it with command line
[07:53] <sri> anybody know how I can get something started from init as another user?
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Detective: Ubuntu will run on any 386 or higher chip (486, pentium, AMD, etc.)
[07:53] <Hoxzer> I can do it with virtual command line?
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Detective: It just won't run well. ;)
[07:53] <Hollywood> Once I change refresh do I need to reboot?  Its still npt showing up as an option.
[07:53] <sri> secondly, I can't seem to get breezy to exec xdm after installing breezy in server mode
[07:53] <Detective> Anything special with memory, hardware, etc., besides making sure drivers for things are in order?
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Detective, If you intend to have a desktop client with X, they say 128M RAM, 2G hard drive, server is I think half the RAM, quarter disk.
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: Restart the X server by hitting ctl-alt-backspace (note: this will quit all running graphical applications.)
[07:54] <Detective> Right.
[07:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, as I think you noticed, it is flagging all the windows (samba, of course, here) metadata ports
[07:54] <B-166_ER-X> okayyy : i search and deleted (after a full uninstall ) for 'amsn' files, and deleted a /usr/share/amsn folder, then reinstalled it and ...... wow : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6531
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Yeah.
[07:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I suppose the idea is that they are LAN packets and shouldn't be transferred between the LAN and the internet
[07:54] <theArthur> how do i cause a program to be run at boot? what is ubuntu for /etc/init.d/local.start?
[07:55] <Detective> Kind of moot right now, since I still need to get a good computer besides this budget comp. I don't think it could run DOS steadily.
[07:55] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe so what is special about ubuntu that it can't preform like other linux distros on i386 arch ?
[07:55] <Hollywood> thanks
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but judging by the IPs there is nothing wrong here
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, because source and dest are on the same subnet
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: It uses Gnome by default... can you imagine Gnome on a 386? >_<
[07:55] <WebLOCH> Detective that would have more to do with the construction of DOS, than your computer
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I think the ppp encapsulation connfuses it
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay, that much makes sense.  My real question is, where are the requests coming from?  (There shouldn't be anyone trying to access those shares right now.)
[07:55] <Detective> Well, it's an eMachines thing my parents bought two years ago, so it can't do much of anything. XD
[07:55] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe i can see it on a p1 as we speek
[07:56] <sethk> I don't know what machines those IPs correspond to, probably you do.  If you are on one of those machines, you can use lsof or netstat to find out which process is using those ports
[07:56] <sethk> tonyyarusso, do you have any bridges in your network?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Don't know what that means, sethk.
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, bridges, you mean?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Right.
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, a bridge makes two subnets act as a single subnet
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> sethk: And how would I have acquired such a thing?
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, so with a bridge you'll see LAN traffic spanning multiple subnets
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, same way as a router
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you buy one, or configure a *nix box to be one
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: (One machine using very basic dialup, dialed in with wvdial)
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No configuration done on my part.
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, ok, that's what you meant by the IPs belonging to your ISP
[07:58] <WebLOCH> Anyone want to help me get sensors running, I've had quite a few problems, Im beginning to think its due to my hardware..?
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, without access to those machines, there isn't any way to determine what process is sending them.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Right.    It should be smart enough to deal with ppp encapsulation
[07:59] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it's not like ppp is some rare thing.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right.  So what about the connection from <IP_ADDRESS>, which whoises to something is Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China?
[08:01] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe forgive the 'pet pieve' but it kinda pisses me off when i see people tell others what their hardware cant use 'linux' becaues it is to old/slow/small and then i look and see that the box in question would easily run laps around this one i'm using and it preforms adaquitly for what i want it to do.   p1133 64m ram and 1g hdd   running linux with kde & mozilla    it just bites to read that a p2/3 500mhz 256m ram
[08:01] <intelikey> that's p1 133  ^
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: true
[08:02] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I don't see that address in what you pasted.
[08:02] <sethk> tonyyarusso, is it a connection, or just a packet?
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: I collect older 'spare' hardware from other people.
[08:02] <sethk> paste the log line for it.  It's ok to paste a single line.
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: But still... a 386? o_O
[08:02] <WebLOCH> Anyone at all want to hellllp a brother out with his sensors?
[08:03] <usernewbie> how can I check how much of free space do I have on HardDrive?
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Might be a new one, it's picking up all kinds of stuff as we speak.    How do I tell the difference between a connection and a packet?
[08:03] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe i run linux on a 486 lappy  does that count ?
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: No... I don't want to go there again >_<
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: With Gnome?
[08:03] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe non-X
[08:03] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you can't, looking only at the packet (unless it is part of the connection handshake).  But netstat -a will show you connections
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: ah - then it's an excellent box :)
[08:04] <timfrost> usernewbie, in a terminal type 'df -k'.  That shows the free space for each mounted file system
[08:04] <intelikey> yes i upgraded from windows95 to linux 2.4  and am well pleased with it.
[08:04] <intelikey> :)
[08:05] <odat> anyone know if http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl  is an actual functioning repository?
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: I still get nightmares from trying to debug that problem.
[08:05] <usernewbie> timfrost: why I can not mount floppydrive?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> seth_k: I don't see a connection to it.
[08:05] <usernewbie> timfrost: can not read file from it
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> odat: Yeah, it is.
[08:06] <odat> tonyyarusso, hmmm then it must be down right now cuz i'm unable to access it
[08:06] <WebLOCH> PuMpErNiCkLe, its annoying, i cant overclock again until  the  sensors work, but for some reason no-one knows why they wont.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Is there a list of what various port numbers might be used for somewhere?
[08:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: 'fraid I can't help much
[08:07] <odat> tonyyarusso, is it down for you too or do i have the wrong address?
[08:07] <timfrost> usernewbie, I have no idea.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> What's a UDP protocol?  (As opposed to TCP)
[08:08] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it's DGRAM rather than STREAM
[08:08] <FlannelKing> UDP is stateless, unlike TCP
[08:08] <FlannelKing> no handshakes or the like
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> polpak, FlannelKing: Can that be dumbed down at all?
[08:08] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: TCP is a 5 star restaurant, UDP is all-you-can-eat
[08:08] <polpak> tonyyarusso, like the difference between a mail vs a phone call
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: It's a protocol that doesn't do error checking.
[08:09] <odat> anyone able to check http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl repository to see if its actually down or if its something on my end
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> Thanks all.  That sort of makes sense.
[08:09] <cafuego> polpak: or between throwing and catching a bal versus a cannon
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: It's more light-weight, for use when it doesn't matter if you get all teh data, or if you have a really reliable network.
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> odat, I'm having trouble with it.  Was fine earlier today.
[08:09] <aran> OK so i've got rawwrite, the ubuntu cd, syslinux, a non-booting CD drive, and a ton of useless docs. can i install ubuntu?
[08:09] <globe> UDP doesnt force the second party to respond -- it just assumes that the packet was recieved
[08:10] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it's an inherantly unreliable protocol. It's used when it doesn't matter if you get all the data, or if you don't care what order you get the data in
[08:10] <phyberoptix> yo
[08:10] <sri> can someone help me with a wireless problem?
[08:10] <phyberoptix> anyone here
[08:10] <globe> sri: whats the prob
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The blocked connections from the Chinese IP were UDP, length 485, port 1026, fyi.
[08:11] <WebLOCH> polpak, thats  not true, its  often used in environments where low traffic overheads are necessary, and  the programmers write their own failsafes into the application logic
[08:11] <sri> globe: for some reason I can't seem to get /etc/network/interface to set my wireless essid correctly
[08:11] <polpak> sri, no meta questions pls.. Just ask your question. if someone can help, they will
[08:11] <sri> polpak: alrighty
[08:11] <phyberoptix> chk it when i am in gnome i can mute the sound with my kb but in fluxbox my sound is muted and i cant unmute it with the kb
[08:11] <sethk> tonyyarusso, 1026 is not a reserved port.
[08:11] <odat> tonyyarusso, i just disable it for now
[08:11] <globe> sri: try iwconfig eth* ap any
[08:11] <sethk> tonyyarusso, udp packets are typically streams, like audio
[08:11] <sri> globe: what does that do?
[08:12] <sri> globe: bind to any ap out there?
[08:12] <globe> sri: that lets your wifi card .... yes
[08:12] <sri> globe: what would I need to put in my interface file? wireless-ap any?
[08:12] <globe> sri: or, you can do iwconfig eth* essid "name-o-access-pt"
[08:13] <sri> globe: yeah, all that works.
[08:13] <sri> globe: it doesn't work when I boot
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Where could I find instructions advising what sort of things should be allowed and what blocked?
[08:13] <phyberoptix> hmmmmm
[08:13] <sri> globe: it's a usb wireless thingee using the zd1218 driver.
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: Can you unmute it in fluxbox any other way?
[08:13] <WebLOCH> Does anyone here have trouble getting programs to open with a specific application from nautilus?
[08:13] <phyberoptix> thats the thing
[08:13] <phyberoptix> i dont see where its muted
[08:13] <jrattner1> Anyone know of a program that will change the background of the gnome desktop similarly to the slideshow feature KDE has
[08:13] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I don't have a good url for that.  I'm sure there are several, but I've been doing this for so long that I haven't looked at them.
[08:14] <aran> aran would like help if possible
[08:14] <sri> globe: when it boots up the essid is set to None, and I have to set it by hand.... if I try to do ifup wlan0 it gives me some kind of can't set error.
[08:14] <phyberoptix> i know its got to be simple
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right, do you have any quick-start suggestions then?
[08:14] <sri> iwconfig wlan0 ap any fails too.
[08:14] <theArthur> how can i have a program run at boot?
[08:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: Have you run alsamixer to see what's muted and what isn't?
[08:14] <polpak> tonyyarusso, generally, security is done as "What services will people need to be able to access, and who specifically should access them.. Deny anything else"
[08:14] <globe> sri: got me...I dont know anything about that driver.....
[08:14] <odat> gnome rocks!
[08:15] <aran> someone help aran create an installer bootdisk
[08:15] <WebLOCH> When is dapper final realease?
[08:15] <WebLOCH> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:15] <Imsdle> I have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> WebLOCH, April.
[08:15] <globe> sri: have you looked in the network configuration in X?
[08:15] <WebLOCH> tonyyarusso, cheers
[08:15] <phyberoptix> it says its off
[08:15] <phyberoptix> how can i turn it on
[08:16] <sri> globe: I've installed it in server mode, building a mythtv box.
[08:16] <theconartist> can anyone point me to a good list of 5.10 apt repo's?
[08:16] <odat> Imsdle, you want to share a dial up connection   ouch
[08:16] <intelikey> !repos
[08:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:16] <sri> globe: it's really strange and I don't understand how to get it to wrok consistently.
[08:16] <odat> sri, did you check out knopmyth  or something like that
[08:16] <timfrost> tonyyarusso, best start is deny all inbound, but let outbound traffic out. Add explicit traffic  to inbound if it is required
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: use the arrows to pick the channel, hit 'm' to mute/unmute
[08:17] <Imsdle> Odat.. some of us do not have the luxury of technology in some parts of the world
[08:17] <phyberoptix> m
[08:17] <phyberoptix> ffs
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: up/down arrows adjust volume, I think
[08:17] <phyberoptix> lol
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[08:17] <theconartist> !easysource
[08:17] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:17] <odat> Imsdle, understood and i hope the technology comes to you soon
[08:17] <phyberoptix> i told you
[08:17] <phyberoptix> something that simple
[08:17] <theconartist> intelikey, dont help me much :/ i already have those enabled
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Glad to help :)
[08:17] <globe> sri: got me....sorry
[08:17] <phyberoptix> all\\\\\\\\\\ty
[08:18] <phyberoptix> *ty
[08:18] <Imsdle> SAme.... in the mean time.. do youi have any ideas on how to do this. Firestarted soesn't work and is just a pain i the arse
[08:18] <WebLOCH> Can anyone recommend a good text for understanding the divisions of the filesystem?  (Like /bin and /usr etc etc)?
[08:18] <sri> globe: no worries, I'll keep trying.
[08:18] <intelikey> theconartist yeah it is kinda skimppy on the number of packages.... only about 8000 or something
[08:18] <globe> sri: good luck
[08:18] <polpak> WebLOCH, the filesystem heirarchy standard?
[08:19] <odat> Imsdle, no sorry never tried connection sharing of any kind
[08:19] <WebLOCH> polpak, is that a joke or a serious recommendation or a question?
[08:19] <B1zz> has anyone installed Legends on ubuntu?
[08:19] <theconartist> intelikey, :p
[08:19] <polpak> WebLOCH, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[08:19] <WebLOCH> polpak, great stuff, thanks!
[08:19] <polpak> WebLOCH, a suggestion
[08:20] <WebLOCH> polpak, a simplified version of this might go down well as an introduction document to booting up linux the first time
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, perhaps
[08:21] <theconartist> intelikey, i don't see enlightenment e16 in there though :/
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, but most ppl just want things to "work"
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> What are the services "DCOM-scm" and "uPNP"?
[08:21] <WebLOCH> polpak, true enough
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, if you really want to know how linux works (guts wise) you should check out "Linux from Scratch"
[08:21] <intelikey> so Imsdle you in NZ ?
[08:21] <theconartist> intelikey, is it in any of those, or am i having problems with apt?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> Ports 135 and 5000.
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> If I could look up ports in a list somewhere, that would be great.  Anyone have a link?
[08:22] <intelikey> !info enlightenment
[08:22] <ubotu> enlightenment: (The Enlightenment Window Manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.16.6-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 436 kB, Installed size: 1168 kB
[08:22] <WebLOCH> polpak, i have some linux docu from uni, i just wanted a quick reference, imabout to start partitioning so I can organise what data gets formatted and when, rather than the whole load
[08:22] <polpak> tonyyarusso, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/randz/protocol/upnp.asp
[08:23] <intelikey> that's 16 is it not ^
[08:23] <liable> theres a list in /etc/services
[08:23] <theconartist> intelikey, yes, but apt wont recognize it for me
[08:23] <theconartist> intelikey, how do i clear everything?
[08:23] <theconartist> im not very familiar with apt :/
[08:23] <dandielionous> hello
[08:24] <dandielionous> Does anyone know what the financial program is for kubuntu?
[08:24] <intelikey> theconartist apt-get clean && apt-get update
[08:24] <theconartist> intelikey, ty
[08:24] <timfrost> theconartis, try command  'apt-cache search enlightenment
[08:24] <timfrost> '
[08:24] <intelikey> theconartist usdo them of course
[08:25] <theconartist> timfrost, i already know that
[08:25] <dandielionous> I finally got kubuntu installed.  Just taking the easy way out by asking that question.
[08:25] <theconartist> intelikey, my problem was i had the e17 repo setup before
[08:25] <vega-> dandielionous: /j kubuntu
[08:25] <vega-> someone might know better there
[08:25] <starscalling> well
[08:25] <starscalling> on the upside
[08:25] <dandielionous> okaaaay
[08:25] <starscalling> im getting rather good at ubuntu installs >_<
[08:25] <dandielionous> ty vega
[08:27] <Imsdle> YUP
[08:27] <Imsdle> Intelikey im in nz
[08:27] <theconartist> poo poo
[08:27] <theconartist> "E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate
[08:27] <theconartist> "
[08:28] <atha_> halo
[08:28] <theconartist> intelikey, now what could it be? :(
[08:28] <intelikey> Imsdle yes i just noticed the comment about lack of high tech. *  and got curious.
[08:29] <intelikey> theconartist you did remove the e17 already ?
[08:29] <atha_> I has download vmwarepalyer from it website. I has installed at my ubuntu. but know I conpuse how to use it. any body can hel me please...
[08:29] <theconartist> intelikey, yes
[08:30] <Imsdle> in the woops.. about 20minuts from hobbiton :D
[08:30] <Imsdle> an no im not a realation and i wan't in the film.. and no i dont' know peter jackson
[08:30] <Imsdle> :|
[08:30] <Imsdle> I have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection
[08:30] <Imsdle> anyone?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Imsdle, Well, it's quite obvious I don't know how to use it yet, but firestarter did have a "share connection" thing in its wizard.
[08:32] <intelikey> theconartist idk.  man apt-get    or man aptitude  one of them should be able to force a down grade install of it, assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is correct with universe enabled.
[08:32] <Imsdle> i know.. but i can't get it to see my modem and I don't know how to configure the ipv6 thingy
[08:33] <brett> Hell all thanks for your help - got my refresh rate fixed!
[08:33] <theconartist> intelikey, i dont have it e17 or the repo installed
[08:33] <daskog> now
[08:33] <daskog> how can i fix the resolution on my Ubuntu install? im using a Geforce 7800 Gtx
[08:34] <intelikey> Imsdle search google.com/linux for 'quicktables'  a script that helps you write an iptables script.    it may be what you need.
[08:34] <daskog> i can only get max 1024x768
[08:34] <polpak> daskog, have you installed the nvidia driver?
[08:34] <odat> daskog, did you install the nvidia glx driver in synaptic
[08:34] <intelikey> theconartist then we are back to the repos setting in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <daskog> yes
[08:35] <daskog> what do i do now
[08:35] <Kindred> I don't suppose anyone knows how I stop my ntfs partition from putting an icon on the desktop? I still want to keep the cd/usb drives on there though.. hmmm
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Open a terminal and write 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[08:35] <odat> daskog, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <timfrost> Imsdle, you can probably ignore IPV6, unless you have an ISP that supports it (telecom doesn't).
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: I win ;)
[08:35] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, lol
[08:35] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, but i answered twice lol
[08:35] <aran> someone help me out
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: dammit ;)
[08:35] <aran> please
[08:36] <odat> aran, with?
[08:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: What's the question?
[08:36] <aran> i want to make a boot floppy
[08:36] <odat> gotcha
[08:36] <aran> i'm in windows
[08:36] <aran> can't boot from CD
[08:36] <odat> aran, a linux boot floppy
[08:36] <aran> ideally, boot up from floppy, then boot from CD
[08:36] <aran> less ideally, boot up from floppy, install from internet
[08:37] <aran> i have rawwrite
[08:37] <aran> i have a burned ubuntu iso
[08:37] <aran> and i have a copy of syslinux
[08:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:37] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:37] <daskog> Ok, that worked but now i get enter the Video card's bus identifier
[08:37] <aran> sorry.
[08:38] <aran> Was that an automatic message?
[08:38] <Madpilot> aran: if you can't boot from CD, check your BIOS settings & boot order
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: The default it gives you should work.
[08:38] <odat> aran, did you check your bios?
[08:38] <aran> yeah, it can't do it
[08:38] <odat> damn it
[08:38] <aran> yep.
[08:38] <aran> have some faith. but not too much. :)
[08:38] <Madpilot> aran: you BIOS doesn't support booting from CD?
[08:39] <aran> it does but the CD drive is unhappy and the bios doesn't detect it. need drivers.
[08:39] <aran> thus need a preliminary boot disk.
[08:39] <Ganjhi> For some reason, when I try to CD to a folder I made in "/home/carl" it says no such file or directory... "/home/carl/Eternal Lands" no typos. Can anybody help? I'd also like to know what command in the terminal or root terminal I could use to move that folder onto my desktop
[08:40] <odat> aran, http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:40] <aran> yeah i looked.
[08:40] <aran> of the 3 linux ones, one is not 404
[08:40] <polpak> Ganjhi, you need to quote directories that have spaces
[08:40] <aran> and it doesn't work
[08:40] <aran> i booted, it froze and started trying to print things... :P
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Ganjhi: or write it like /home/carl/Eternal\ Lands/
[08:40] <Madpilot> Ganjhi: try just typing "Eter" then hitting the TAB key for autocomplete
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Thanks!
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Any ideas on moving the folder?
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Says I don't have write permissions.
[08:41] <polpak> Ganjhi, did you create the directory as root?
[08:41] <odat> aran, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/
[08:42] <Madpilot> !tell Ganjhi about cli
[08:42] <Madpilot> Ganjhi: the bot just sent you a link with lots of terminal info in it...
[08:42] <Ganjhi> thanks
[08:42] <aran> OK, how do i use one of those to boot from the CD?
[08:42] <odat> aran, dunno thats for you to figure out
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol odat
[08:43] <odat> sheesh
[08:43] <yaaar> word
[08:43] <odat> lol
[08:43] <odat> gnome rocks!
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than 2 e-mail addresses for a contact?
[08:44] <intelikey> rocks 'nome
[08:44] <odat> tonyyarusso, i've stuck with evolution sorry
[08:46] <odat> i love this from the kde site.   QT is free unless you want to develope commercial software then you have to pay. lol Yea that will bring developers to a new platform     sheesh
[08:46] <Pegger>  any have any experiense debugging phpmyadmin?
[08:47] <fli7e> I have a FAT32 partition that I share with Windows XP on this computer. I can read from it in Breezy, but I can't write to it. What do I need to do to make it writable?
[08:47] <intelikey> odat the idea is not to bring new developers in but to keep the software free to one and all.
[08:47] <aftertaf> !windowsdrives
[08:47] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:47] <aftertaf> fli7e:  see that ^^^
[08:48] <fli7e> thanks
[08:48] <odat> intelikey, hmmm i would imagine you would want both    but maybe i'm wrong
[08:48] <intelikey> fli7e add umask=0 in the /etc/fstab  the line that edscribes that filesystem
[08:49] <fli7e> intelikey, that's all i have to do?
[08:49] <jenda> Help! xmms and OO.org segfault immediatly after startup! It worked fine yesterday and now it doesn't
[08:49] <intelikey> odat both is good but if it comes to one or the other.  we want free
[08:49] <intelikey> fli7e and remount it  yes
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Have you installed or updated anything since yesterday?
[08:49] <daskog> After i configured my Nvidia drivers with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i still can't set the resolution higher than 1024x
[08:49] <fli7e> intelikey and aftertaf, thanks guys.
[08:49] <odat> intelikey, i agree however i would think that if you can have the best of both words why wouldn't you pick gtk then/
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Did you restart the x server?
[08:50] <daskog> hmm
[08:50] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: Yes, I have, I installed the nvidia driver
[08:50] <daskog> no
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> What does it mean to lock and unlock the firewall in firestarter?
[08:50] <odat> daskog, did you select the resolution you would like to achieve when you reconfigured xserver?
[08:50] <intelikey>  #debate
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: hit ctrl-alt-backspace (NOTE: this will quit any graphical applications you have open.)
[08:50] <daskog> yes
[08:50] <odat> intelikey, is that for me?
[08:51] <daskog> and then what?
[08:51] <intelikey> odat we are off topic....
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: That just restarts the xserver.
[08:51] <odat> infamouse, k
[08:51] <daskog> oh ok
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: It's not a reboot.
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Anything else?
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Or just the driver?
[08:51] <odat> intelikey, k
[08:52] <intelikey> and i am kinda busy atm also.
[08:52] <odat> intelikey, then i will take that as a win by default  lol
[08:52] <[nige] > hey all
[08:52] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe, hmm... just the driver, i.e. I installed the kernel module, ... and I did install lynx
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:53] <odat> lol
[08:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: That doesn't sound like it should cause any problems with OOo... 0_0
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> weird
[08:54] <Ganjhi> Has anybody here successfully installed Wormux on Ubuntu?
[08:54] <[nige] > anyone come across this problem, where by when i logout of Xwindows its changes the fresh rate on 1 monitor and only gets fixed when i restart X
[08:54] <intelikey> GPL zealot's moto  'free at any cost'
[08:54] <godzzo> Hi!
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Is reinstalling OO.o and xmms in synaptic easily manageable for you?
[08:54] <Hendikins> intelikey: *so* true
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (ie, do you have a fast net connection?)
[08:55] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes, no too bad. Dow big would that be...
[08:55] <jenda> *How
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> one moment...
[08:55] <fli7e> intelikey, when you say add umask=0 in the line that describes the filesystem, which line is that? the options one?
[08:56] <liable> yerp
[08:56] <godzzo> I have a problem with a Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :( Can anyone help me?
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: *big*
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: couple hundred MB
[08:56] <aftertaf> fli7e:  you have one line per mountpoint... and the umask bit you put in where is says options, where you have auto,users, etc
[08:56] <godzzo> mplayer audio info : [mkv]  Track ID 2: audio (A_AAC/MPEG4/LC/SBR), -aid 0, -alang jpn
[08:56] <globe> Does anybody know of a website that goes over manual config of the xorg.conf file?
[08:57] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: I'll start out by reinstalling xmms and then I'll see if it helps
[08:57] <aftertaf> godzzo:  do other players work with it? vlc for example?
[08:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: okay
[08:57] <intelikey> fli7e the line that has the device and mount point for the vfat filesystem     it should look something along the lines of  '/dev/hda3 /mnt/fat32 vfat defaults,auto,umask=0 0 0 '
[08:57] <godzzo> aftertaf: no, only mplayer play the video
[08:57] <godzzo> globe, man xorg.conf ?
[08:57] <odat> jenda, whatcha trying to do?
[08:57] <fli7e> thanks both of you
[08:58] <fli7e> heros for the day
[08:58] <globe> godzzo....I thought I tried that...lemme see
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: She installed the nvidia driver and kernel module yesterday, and today xmms and OOo are segfaulting.
[08:58] <aftertaf> lol fli7e :) if only ;)
[08:58] <jenda> odat: my xmms and OO.o refuse to start (seg fault). Maybe other apps too.
[08:58] <globe> godzzo: okay....guess I didnt check there ;-) thanks!
[08:58] <aftertaf> there is a bug on the wiki page about nvidia and xmms.
[08:58] <godzzo> godzzo: not at all :)
[08:58] <odat> jeffisageek, did you install the nvidia driver from there website?
[08:58] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[08:58] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:58] <odat> jenda, i mean
[08:59] <odat> sorry
[08:59] <jenda> odat: I used the nvidia installer
[08:59] <godzzo> aftertaf, I try totem, kaffine, and now installing vlc
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> uh oh
[08:59] <odat> jenda, eeek
[08:59] <jenda> odat: It wouldn't work otherwise
[08:59] <intelikey> lol i just noticed that ubuntu can run with on fstab aftertaf
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: apt-get install nvidia-glx failed?
[09:00] <odat> jenda, i would uninstall that and install the ones in synaptic
[09:00] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe, odat: Yes, it failed.
[09:00] <aftertaf> godzzo:  not too hot on audio codecpbs though... sorry
[09:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *blink*
[09:00] <coz> hello all and happy third day of the year
[09:01] <odat> jenda, what did it say when you tried to install it?
[09:01] <coz> aftertaf what is the problem
[09:01] <godzzo> aftertaf, what is "codecpbs"?
[09:01] <aftertaf> wazzat intelikey ?
[09:01] <coz> godzzo what is the problem
[09:01] <aftertaf> godzzo:  problems with audio codecs... you may be missing the right one on your system.
[09:01] <godzzo> coz, Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :(
[09:01] <jenda> odat: well x wouldn't start (cannot load nvidia driver module)
[09:02] <coz> Oh let's check a few things
[09:02] <coz> do you have all fo the gstreamer plugins
[09:02] <odat> jenda, what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[09:02] <godzzo> coz, yes multiverz too
[09:02] <intelikey> aftertaf i "for some unknown reason" installed ubuntu again on one box, and i refused to let it mess with any partitions so it didn't write a fstab,  well i adjusted my boot loader and booted it.  it runs fine but has no fstab   hehhe
[09:02] <sirex> now, ubuntu has only 6.3 version of vim, via apt-get, is there are a way to get newest version of vim with apt-get compiling vim from surces?
[09:03] <shad0w1e> question?
[09:03] <coz> this Matroska video file what is it?
[09:03] <godzzo> coz, I donno, but mplayer handle it, vlc is not.
[09:03] <shad0w1e> My only partition is being recognized as partition 2. How do I change that?
[09:03] <aftertaf> loool intelikey
[09:03] <jenda> odat: geforce 2, and yes, I had the legacy package, I have the 686 kernel and even that I installed right, AFAIK.
[09:03] <coz> vlc sucks on linux get rid of it
[09:03] <intelikey> aftertaf i was going to edit my fstab and typed 'nano /etc/fstab '  and it's blank.
[09:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vim/
[09:03] <coz> do you have totem-xine installed
[09:04] <odat> godzzo, i have toyed around and mplayer is the best
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: 6.4 is available there
[09:04] <godzzo> coz, If I see, it is a container, can handle multiple sub, audio trakcs...
[09:04] <daskog> what was the command for config the Nvidia drivers again?
[09:04] <aftertaf> lol intelikey good to know ;)
[09:04] <sirex> PuMpErNiCkLe: how about 7.0?
[09:04] <godzzo> :)
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: nope
[09:04] <odat> jenda, will you give me a moment to assess it?
[09:04] <godzzo> I like mplayer and I mostly use it
[09:04] <jenda> odat: sure
[09:04] <coz> OK guys this godzzo needs help here lend a hand
[09:04] <intelikey> yeah i thought so too
[09:04] <sirex> PuMpErNiCkLe: compiling from sources via apt-get is not possible too?
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: well, actually, yes... but it looks like a backport o_O
[09:05] <shad0w1e> my "hdd" drive only has one partition, but it's being recognized as "hdd2". This is because I was playing around with the partitions, but now I only have one. How can I change it to "hdd1"?
[09:05] <coz> godzzo do other files play easily
[09:05] <aftertaf> coz:  godzzo : i use mplayer & xine...
[09:05] <daskog> is there a easy way to install the Latest Nvidia drivers for Ubuntu x86-64?
[09:05] <godzzo> coz, yes I use w32codecs (wmv, ogm etc)
[09:06] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  not sure you can or that it would be of any use. define 'playing around'...
[09:06] <coz> ok and it is only this file?
[09:06] <mp> hello
[09:06] <godzzo> coz, yes
[09:06] <daskog> im so frutstrated and tired..
[09:06] <coz> well perhaps there is nothing wrong with the system but with the file itself
[09:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: The latest in the repository, or the latest from nVidia's website?
[09:06] <aftertaf> daskog:  does the wiki have any info for 64bit systems?
[09:06] <mp> i seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...
[09:06] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, I created a partition before it, then deleted the one before it, and resized this one to start at the beginning of the drive, thereby taking up the entire drive
[09:07] <laptop> hey, can anyone give me some support?
[09:07] <mp> it keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?
[09:07] <jenda> odat: And mplayer segfaults too :(
[09:07] <laptop> im having a bad laptop issue
[09:07] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  hehe ok...  it shouldnt matter that its called hda2
[09:07] <coz> laptop what is the prob
[09:07] <laptop> well
[09:07] <odat> jenda, did you install the nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?
[09:07] <laptop> the usb's shot.. multiple shorts
[09:07] <laptop> can i use a pcmcia for now?
[09:07] <godzzo> coz, maybe, but I have an another Matsoka (but is downloading), i will try too when it is completes...
[09:07] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, what if it's a FAT32 partition and I'm booting Win2k from it?
[09:07] <coz> good godzzo let us know
[09:07] <jenda> odat: no
[09:08] <coz> sure laptop I don't see why not
[09:08] <jenda> odat: why?
[09:08] <starscalling> i get these errors with the seveas repositories...
[09:08] <daskog> PuMpErNiCkle: Nvidias web site
[09:08] <godzzo> coz, ok
[09:08] <godzzo> coz, aftertaf, thnx
[09:08] <starscalling> says it cant stat them or some such notion..
[09:08] <laptop> well im wondering if the usb controller is any different if you use pcmcia
[09:08] <daskog> aftertaf: are you beeing sarcastic?
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: You might not want to do that.
[09:08] <yaaar> anybody know of a clipboard tool for gnome that's sort of like clipper? like it can remember the last several things you highlighted?
[09:08] <odat> jenda, ok i'm gonna make a list of what you should have
[09:08] <laptop> cause its most cost effective..
[09:08] <daskog> whys that?
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Witness what jenda's going through now...
[09:08] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  the hda2?    if your nt bootloader references it correctly it should be ok. the hada(x) references are in lunix only.
[09:08] <coz> give it a try laptop best way to learn
[09:08] <daskog> oh well
[09:08] <laptop> ...
[09:08] <laptop> so no one in here would know?
[09:09] <intelikey> yaaar i guess you could use klipper
[09:09] <daskog> all i whant is a higher resolution on my display!
[09:09] <aftertaf> daskog:  no i wasn't... just that a lot less ppl are on 64bit and there is less help for it...
[09:09] <coz> I don't know for sure but I am guessing it would use the usb controller onboard
[09:09] <laptop> whats wrong daskog, 800 not big enough for you ? ;
[09:09] <mp> i seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...  it keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?
[09:09] <yaaar> intelikey: well, i really don't have any kde apps i run, and so i don't want to burn the memory of loading up qt etc. just to have klipper
[09:09] <coz> mp I don;t use eveince but someone here might know if not go to ubuntuforums
[09:10] <daskog> well im on a 19" LCD
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: Can you open them with anything else?
[09:10] <aftertaf> daskog:  doesnt the latest repository one work fine?  you'll need to remove the nvidia website one first though
[09:10] <laptop> DASKOG
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: for example, xpdf?
[09:10] <laptop> CANT YOU JUST DO IT IN THE DESKTOP PROPERTIES?
[09:10] <mp> could you tell me the command is, I apologize but im new to linux
[09:10] <aftertaf> daskog:  what actual driver are you running X on right now?
[09:10] <yaaar> intelikey: also, will that even work? it doesn't require kde to be running to catch it's input?
[09:10] <coz> mp download adobe reader
[09:10] <intelikey> yaaar memory in high demand there is it ?     like i have 64m   and run kde with klipper in that with no swap.....
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: xpdf /path/file ?
[09:11] <odat> jenda, xserver-xorg-driver-nv , nvidia-kernel-common , nvidia-glx-legacy     this is after you uninstall the driver you installed the other day   then after you install these open a terminal and enter 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:11] <daskog> aftertaf: Far as iknow i only used synaptic to install the driver
[09:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: I have it set as my default, so I'm just guessing.
[09:11] <coz> or gonto your add applications and look for adobe reader under office
[09:11] <blackvd> my home directory is 90% full just found out why ...files I 'deleted' months ago are stored in ~/.local/share/Trash for some reason.Anyways it wont let me delete said files even in terminal.So how do I delete them?
[09:11] <starscalling> first it stays on " 99% [Connecting to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  " for quite some time when sudo apt-get update
[09:11] <aftertaf> mp or open synaptic and search 'pdf', then install one of them instead. the command is mostof the time the same as the package name.
[09:11] <mp> that would work, but i kinda want to stay away from adobe reader, reason because I need a viewer for dvi, ps, etc...
[09:11] <daskog> laptop:?
[09:11] <laptop> ***if anyone has owned a laptop and had their usb ports short out, and had to use a pcmcia usb adapter, could they please speak up?***
[09:11] <j-linux> is there a way to get a list of installed packages outputted to a text file?
[09:11] <aftertaf> BlackJudas:  rm
[09:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> blackvd: rm -rf /path/to/file ?
[09:11] <yaaar> intelikey: right, you run kde with klipper. but i'm running gnome/gtk for all my stuff at this point. so it just seems a waste to have to load the whole second set of widgets and such
[09:11] <jenda> odat: OK, how do I uninstall them, though?
[09:11] <coz> blackvd are they root accessonly
[09:11] <aftertaf> j-linux:  dpkg -l > text.txt
[09:11] <blackvd> k thanks
[09:12] <j-linux> aftertaf: thanks
[09:12] <starscalling> so i guess im wondering if anyone else has problems with sevaes's repositories
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: There should be an uninstall script with the nVidia download.
[09:12] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks man
[09:12] <intelikey> yaaar the point was even if you had to add all of kde to your 'nome  it still shouldn't add more than 64m ram usage.
[09:12] <coz> starscalling I don't use anyting by seveas
[09:13] <daskog> give away my Gf 7800gtx  can get it to work anyway =P
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: Just hopping around :)
[09:13] <starscalling> ah
[09:13] <daskog> can't
[09:13] <yaaar> daskog: i'll take it
[09:13] <odat> jenda, and if that doesn't work i bet you any money its the nvidia legacy glx driver       but try that first
[09:13] <starscalling> guess ill just delete his sources then....
[09:13] <j-linux> aftertaf: that worked even better that what I was looking for... thanks again...
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: I'll take it :D
[09:13] <aftertaf> j-linux:  ;)
[09:13] <yaaar> PuMpErNiCkLe: beat ya
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Beats my 6600GT hands down
[09:13] <daskog> lol
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yaaar: Curse you!
[09:13] <daskog> right now it dont beat s***
[09:14] <yaaar> daskog: so what's the trouble anyhow?
[09:14] <aftertaf> daskog:   PuMpErNiCkLe : the ./NVIDIA-installer.sh accepts a --uninstall switch
[09:14] <daskog> i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <blackvd> wow went from 90% full to 19% anyone know why it stores stuff there?
[09:14] <daskog> rebooted and still no higher res
[09:14] <aftertaf> blackvd:  trashcan
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Have you tried changing it in Pref(menu)-> resolution?
[09:15] <aftertaf> blackvd:  if you delete in gui, it goes tere... unless you hold shift at same time
[09:15] <daskog> yes
[09:15] <daskog> highest is 1024
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> and...?
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah
[09:15] <coz> blackvd there is a setting with right click delet bypasses trash
[09:15] <blackvd> why doesnt it just delete it like I asked?
[09:15] <daskog> aftertaf: what you mean?
[09:15] <Toma--> black hold shift then press delete on them
[09:15] <coz> blackvd go to system preferences
[09:15] <aftertaf> daskog:  normally no need to reboot even.   can you use 1024.768.
[09:15] <jenda> odat, PuMpErNiCkLe: Wait... before I do that... I noticed that I am supposed to comment out the Load "GLcore" in xorg.conf, which I didn't do. Could that cause segfaults?
[09:15] <coz> files managment
[09:15] <ardchoille> Happy birthday to me!!! I was born on Jan. 3, 1964 @ 07:35 :)
[09:15] <starscalling> libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/transform directory to the plugin registr
[09:16] <starscalling> anyone ever run into that error??
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: possibly...
[09:16] <aftertaf> daskog:  for the nvidia website drivers package, if you want to remove it you can by running it with a switch on the end.
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: I commented it out, so I dunno :)
[09:16] <aftertaf> loool ardchoille  happy burfday
[09:16] <jenda> I'll try that first then
[09:16] <daskog> can you write the command for me?
[09:16] <coz> blackvd the go to the behavior tab and tick the box for right click delete
[09:16] <odat> jenda, this is gonna sound rough but what would you rather have something that kinda works ok or something that works like it should?
[09:17] <daskog> im totaly new with linux!
[09:17] <Hoxzer> how do I enable sound server?
[09:17] <coz> and uncheck the ask for confirmation unless you like that
[09:17] <daskog> aftertaf: Softimage Xsi 5 must have native resolution on 19" LCD to be functional
[09:17] <jenda> odat: well odat, the apt install never worked for me, so I'm guessing that if it's _caused_ by the GLcore module, tehn I prefer the quick hack :)
[09:18] <daskog> i dont get it! this was not a problem with Suse 10
[09:18] <_Rappy_> newbie question: I'm connected to a server via ssh. What's the commando to show the servers current time?
[09:18] <ardchoille> thanks daskog
[09:18] <odat> jenda, are you using synaptic to install this stuff?
[09:18] <Hendikins> _Rappy_: date
[09:18] <jenda> odat: no
[09:18] <_Rappy_> tnx Hendikins :)
[09:18] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, I did not have the 2000 CD and I transferred my 2000 OS onto a second hard drive, and copied the MBR using the dd (bs=446) command. So I want to get hdd2 to be recognized as hdd1, if I could...
[09:18] <odat> jenda, prolly should its much more informative and easy to boot
[09:18] <odat> lol
[09:18] <daskog> ardchoille: ???
[09:18] <ardchoille> daskog: sorry, wrong nick
[09:19] <ardchoille> aftertaf: Thanks :D
[09:19] <odat> daskog, open up synaptic do a search for nvidia and tell me what you have installed
[09:19] <daskog> 5 sek
[09:19] <jenda> odat: hmm... apt-get and apt-cache works fine for me :)
[09:19] <jenda> brb
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out all - sleep
[09:19] <odat> sheesh why are women so stubborn? :)
[09:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol odat
[09:20] <odat> see ya pum
[09:20] <odat> :)
[09:21] <intelikey> what fs type does ubuntu use for cdrom  udf or somethin like that ?
[09:21] <odat> iso9600 or something like that lol
[09:21] <daskog> odat: nvdial-glx 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1,    nvidia-kernel-common,           nvidia-settings,         xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[09:22] <aftertaf> daskog:  the file you got from the website... do you remember how you ran it? sh ./NVIDIA-[lots of numbers] .sh   ?
[09:22] <intelikey> odat interesting cause all i get out of iso9660 is wrong fs type errors
[09:22] <Pegger> what is the name of the snmp web program that gratheres statics I belive that it's mascot is a cactius
[09:22] <daskog> i did not download anything frome the Website
[09:22] <aftertaf> daskog:  ohhhh. ok. i understood wrong then. nevermind... :)
[09:23] <daskog> np
[09:23] <odat> daskog, uninstall that nvidia-setting out of there and choose to reinstall all the others    that nvidia-settings thing is starting to cause problem with recent releases
[09:23] <daskog> ok
[09:23] <aftertaf> nvidia is sort of pot luck at the moment....
[09:23] <odat> intelikey, that is what i used with cedega to do something and it worked :(
[09:24] <odat> aftertaf, agreed although i haven't had any problems with it for a long time
[09:24] <intelikey> hmmm works manually....
[09:24] <intelikey> but not from fstab
[09:25] <odat> intelikey, weird
[09:25] <phos-phoros> s/evil/dirty
[09:26] <daskog> odat: done!
[09:26] <aftertaf> odat:  me neither... and in dapper it works fine again now, but didnt for a while
[09:26] <yaaar> word
[09:26] <daskog> odat: is that all?
[09:26] <yaaar> yeah, so klipper works just perfect in gnome.
[09:26] <yaaar> it still offends me on principle....gnome really should have that same function as a gtk deally. but whatever
[09:26] <aftertaf> phos-phoros:  qemu is fun too
[09:26] <yaaar> aftertaf: yeah, but sloooooow
[09:27] <aftertaf> yaaar:  there is that....
[09:27] <yaaar> or at least it was for me, emuing winxp
[09:27] <aftertaf> me 2
[09:27] <yaaar> sure as hell was neat though, having a winxp desktop in a window on your linux box
[09:27] <odat> daskog, now i would do the reconfigure thingy again and when it gets to the screen where it ask you to mark the resolutions you would like to achieve make sure you mark them. I have only ever achieved 1280 x 1024 but my graphics card isn't as nice either. then when your done with that restart your computer
[09:28] <odat> aftertaf, you mean the nvidia-settings thing?
[09:28] <daskog> ok
[09:28] <daskog> thanks
[09:28] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, thanks for all the help!
[09:29] <odat> daskog, don't get discouraged it does work and well linux and ubuntu are worth a little golf headache lol
[09:29] <UniqueName> Hey i need some help i just install ubuntu on my LW40 express laptop and it had probs with the soundcard i managed to control print screen E to get past the problem with hotplug to get into ubuntu but beucae i terminated the task i think it stoped it from loading my network drivers so now i have no sound and no network drivers can someone help me get the stuff setup nice
[09:30] <odat> UniqueName, try a reinstall first
[09:31] <intelikey> odat ?
[09:31] <odat> intelikey, ?
[09:31] <intelikey> why not a reconfigure
[09:31] <liable> UniqueName: /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:31] <UniqueName> i tried installing twice
[09:31] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:31] <UniqueName> and it does not like my soundcard
[09:32] <liable> UniqueName: add sudo's as you see fit..
[09:32] <intelikey> cheeper that a reload
[09:32] <odat> on a fresh install that goes wrong somewhere i feel its just a better idea to try a reinstall rather than fix a broken system to begin with
[09:32] <UniqueName> i did the dpkg thing to get into linux
[09:32] <UniqueName> but the soundcard problem still exists
[09:32] <daskog> odat: So true
[09:32] <UniqueName> if you do a google search for LW40 express
[09:32] <daskog> see you around..soon
[09:32] <UniqueName> you will see its a problem with the hardware
[09:32] <odat> daskog, k
[09:32] <UniqueName> there is a kernel patch for the problem
[09:32] <jenda> odat, PuMpErNiCkLe: lol... I commented it out and X refused to start. I'm in too much of a hurry to bother with it now, but since I need to fix several things anyway, I will prolly do a clean reinstall over the weekend. BTW, I turned back to the "nv" driver, and OO.org now works. Xmms doesn't...
[09:32] <odat> daskog, wishing you lol
[09:32] <intelikey> hmmmm if i use that theory, i can not run ubuntu.
[09:33] <liable> UniqueName: check on tuxmobil.org to see if anyone has a work around for your laptop
[09:33] <intelikey> all i can do is reload it endlessly
[09:33] <odat> jenda, pretty please try synaptic with the list i gave ya and the reconfigure command    you'll be happy :)
[09:34] <UniqueName> liable i can see networking in that list in init.d
[09:34] <UniqueName> but its not starting
[09:34] <UniqueName> it says sudo networking command not found
[09:34] <odat> intelikey, did i tell you what i did last week?
[09:34] <intelikey> guess not.
[09:34] <liable> UniqueName: um, sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:35] <jenda> odat: I would - If I could. I would first need to uninstall the driver, which is apparently next to impossible. ATM - OO.org works, which allows me to live about a day longer ... I will first try what you say before I do a clean reinstall :).
[09:35] <odat> intelikey, took the dive no more dual boot for me i said f*** it i'm going entirely linux lol     erased my drive and said see ya as soon as i got madden football running on linux lol
[09:36] <intelikey> :)      good on ya odat
[09:36] <UniqueName> liable it said ok but the networking thing is not showing a new network device
[09:36] <odat> jenda, if you open synaptic you may be able to uninstall it from there or simply override the driver you installed the other day
[09:36] <UniqueName> the setup detected by network cards in the install as it asked me for my wep for my wireless net
[09:37] <odat> hahahahahahah very very evil like is how i laughed afterwords lol
[09:37] <jenda> odat: lol... And how will that be different from what I had before I installed with the nvidia installer?
[09:37] <odat> UniqueName, might have to look into nsdiwrapper or something like that lol
[09:37] <liable> UniqueName: then go into the network config thing and have a look around..
[09:38] <UniqueName> i have done that liable thats why i know its not there
[09:38] <UniqueName> i did a ls *net* in initd and saw hotplug-net i am guessing thats my problem as i had to terminate the hotplug thing on the boot
[09:38] <UniqueName> as it was having a error with my soundcard
[09:38] <fli7e> is there a good GUI frontend for smbclient that anyone knows of?
[09:38] <UniqueName> i think if i fix my soundcard i will fix my problem with network or am i wrong?
[09:38] <odat> jenda, nvidia driver is not as nice as the ones in the repositories and or synaptic which is why we all use those and not nvidia installer thingy
[09:39] <tepsipakki> is my dapper the only one which is having interactivity problems.. the system feels quite sluggish, even though the hardware isn't (2.2GHz celeron, 512MB)?
[09:39] <tepsipakki> same hardware with sarge/breezy is snappy
[09:40] <jenda> odat: they didn't work for me before. The only thing I'm thinking might do the trick is completely removing the official drver, and then apting it. But just doing the same thing as before - apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and the rest, that just has no point.
[09:41] <andy__> moin
[09:41] <Raskall> anyone has a good solution (other than a killall cronjob) for the gam_server hogging all cpu, RAM and swap.
[09:41] <brett> hello unbuntu gods!
[09:41] <brett> Is it possible to dual or tripple boot?
[09:41] <Hendikins> Yes.
[09:41] <brett> what's the procedure?
[09:41] <Raskall> brett: you can even octoboot. :)
[09:41] <brett> lol
[09:41] <brett> TY
[09:41] <brett> So what's the best way?
[09:41] <brett> I have this old box
[09:41] <odat> jenda, ok its your headache i suppose i'm just telling you how i would GET IT TO WORK
[09:41] <intelikey> nonoboot :)
[09:41] <brett> that would be a great Win98 / XP / Ubuntu box
[09:42] <Hendikins> Raskall: I think the most OSes I've had on one box has been about 6... back when I cared.
[09:42] <brett> on a 20gb drive :)
[09:42] <intelikey> decaboot
[09:42] <jenda> odat: Thanx man - I'll get back to it as soon as I can.
[09:42] <theconartist> this is makin me mad
[09:42] <brett> so hooow
[09:42] <odat> intelikey, gigaboot?
[09:42] <brett> so how?
[09:42] <Hendikins> brett: I'd install the Windows first, then Linux
[09:42] <intelikey> i doubt that odat
[09:42] <brett> which windows?
[09:42] <Hendikins> and I'd put the XP on NTFS so that 98 can't see it
[09:42] <Raskall> brett: make 3 partitions. first, install win98, then install xp, then finish with ubuntu. ubuntu will set up the triple boot for you
[09:42] <odat> Hendikins, true
[09:42] <Dark_Side_Of_The> guys...hello. does anyone know what do i have to do to make work the nvidia driver with a recently installed kernel image for i686 ?
[09:43] <brett> lol sweet
[09:43] <Hendikins> and I'd use a common data partition, FAT32 would be sensible for that.
[09:43] <Raskall> brett: actually win98 and xp can be on the same partition, but then XP would have to use a fat32 partition
[09:43] <brett> they cso 4 partitiions on a 20gb?
[09:43] <intelikey> odat there is a limit.  initial ram that bios allots you know.
[09:43] <Kindred> and a swap partition :P
[09:43] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, wow nvidia hell tonight
[09:43] <Hendikins> Raskall: That's asking for problems. Keeping them apart is prudent
[09:43] <Raskall> 20 gig and triple boot is virtually impossible
[09:43] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, do you have all the necessary drivers installed?
[09:43] <Dark_Side_Of_The> hehe...why odat?
[09:43] <Raskall> Hendikins: I know. but it would work. :)
[09:43] <brett> actually guys my data drive will be netwoek so that's not needed
[09:43] <Dark_Side_Of_The> yes
[09:44] <Hendikins> Raskall: No, it isn't. Tight? Yes. Virtually impossible? No.
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx
[09:44] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, did you do a reconfigure?
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> the only problem is that with i686 it just* don't load the module
[09:44] <brett> please keep in mind I'kll have virtually no apps or data
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> dbkg-reconfigure?
[09:44] <Raskall> Hendikins: ok, I give. But there'll be very little room for data. :)
[09:44] <brett> 8. 8. and 4?
[09:44] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, yea
[09:44] <Hendikins> You could give Win98 and WinXP a primary partition each, and toss your data/Linux/swap in an extended.
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> wich packet do i have to reconfigure?
[09:45] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:45] <Hendikins> Raskall: Depends on what data is involved, etc.
[09:45] <brett> so three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98?
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> ohh...that is new..
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> for me
[09:45] <tepsipakki> no one here is running Dapper?
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> thank you very much for your help odat
[09:45] <brett> or doe ubunGuys
[09:45] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, np
[09:45] <brett> blah
[09:46] <brett> Seriously I'm ready to reboot.  What ya think?
[09:46] <Hendikins> brett: I'd probably go 7 each for XP/Ubuntu, 3 for 98, remainder data.
[09:46] <brett> don't need data
[09:46] <Raskall> brett: my advice is to set aside a 3 gig partition for win98. 7 gig for XP and then leave the rest unpartitioned and set it up when you install ubuntu.
[09:46] <Raskall> brett: as Hendikins says 3 gigs for shared data partition would be sensible
[09:46] <brett> ubuntu will make a bunch of little partitions then right?
 so three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98? <--- looks like a good plan to me
[09:47] <brett> Thanks raskal but NO data needed
[09:47] <odat> brett, all ubuntu sounds good to me :)
[09:47] <daskog> Ah finaly =)
[09:47] <brett> Install 98 first then xp then ubuntu?
[09:47] <odat> daskog, got it?
[09:47] <brett> Got it.
[09:47] <daskog> odat: thanks to you it works
[09:47] <brett> Any last suggestions (other than to get a clue)?
[09:47] <odat> daskog, cool
[09:47] <daskog> Now i dont have to give my card away after all :P
[09:47] <brett> close enough
[09:47] <Hendikins> brett: I'd probably do XP, 98, Linux
[09:47] <Raskall> brett: back up any data that's there now.
[09:48] <intelikey> brett always make backups of important crap
[09:48] <brett> no data clean machine
[09:48] <Hoxzer> how do I enable sound server?
[09:48] <brett> (this one)
[09:48] <odat> daskog, lolol hey before you go make sure you have all you repositories open it will make your life much easier
[09:48] <Raskall> brett: then roll..
[09:48] <brett> i don't think you can install 98 AFTER xp
[09:48] <Hoxzer> what is the best way to monitor my CPU tempature?
[09:48] <intelikey> you can but it's not easy
[09:48] <Hendikins> brett: You can if XP is on NTFS, and you put 98 on a primary that you've manually set active.
[09:48] <daskog> what you mean by that?
[09:48] <brett> ok thanks all so much from rainy los angeles
[09:48] <Raskall> brett: I think it's very wise to have win98 on the first logical partition and therefor install it first.
[09:48] <odat> daskog, open up synaptic and i'll show you
[09:48] <brett> yah
[09:49] <brett> got it raskall
[09:49] <daskog> ok
[09:49] <Hendikins> Raskall: I'd agree - if XP couldn't see FAT32.
[09:49] <Hendikins> certainly with NT4 I used to do 9x first
[09:49] <non-owned_nick> Anyone know much about Synaptic and authentication issues?
[09:50] <daskog> odat: it's open
[09:50] <Hendikins> and since grub would be used as a bootloader, you wouldn't need 98 in the NT boot menu or anything like that.
[09:50] <Hendikins> (Yes, I know the person who asked the question has left)
[09:50] <odat> daskog, k this is a little bit of a process but basically what your doing is adding thousands of more programs that you could use if you wanted to   in synaptic
[09:50] <intelikey> actually i don't know why anyone wants more than one M$ windows installed anyway..... actually one is excessive.
[09:51] <Hendikins> Masochist?
[09:51] <daskog> ok
[09:51] <moodog> Morning all.
[09:52] <odat> daskog, ok first do this "settings , repositories, settings , click box next to show disabled software sources and click ok
[09:52] <theconartist> intelikey, i still havent figured out how to fix this :/
[09:52] <UniqueName> Can someone quickly tell me what command you use to run deb files from the command line
[09:52] <intelikey> still trying to load e16 theconartist ?
[09:52] <theconartist> yes
[09:53] <daskog> odat:done
[09:53] <UniqueName> plz hurry there is like 6min left of laptop battery
[09:53] <odat> daskog, then in the list in that box in front of you click off the top one that is for the cd, that isn't needed anymore,  look through the list and check the boxes next to the ones that aren't checked
[09:53] <intelikey> pastebin your sources.list theconartist
[09:53] <theconartist> UniqueName, usually  dpkg -i
[09:53] <liable> UniqueName: plug it in! (dpkg -i foo.deb)
[09:53] <intelikey> UniqueName plug in.
[09:53] <chris1086_> could someone help a noob here?
[09:54] <daskog> ok
[09:54] <non-owned_nick> Can anyone help me with a authentication problem (package management)?
[09:54] <odat> daskog, then click the add button on that window
[09:54] <daskog> ok
[09:55] <chris1086_> I don't know how to use the command line in ubuntu
[09:55] <daskog> & then OK again?
[09:55] <odat> daskog, there is a menu in that little window that pops up click on the boxes that aren't checked then hit ok,  hit add again go to the next menu item and repeat until you went through all three
[09:55] <daskog> ok
[09:57] <theconartist> intelikey, it looks like it should; everything is enabled exept for sources
[09:57] <aftertaf> !tell chris1086_ about cli
[09:58] <intelikey> theconartist does your apt-cache search  find it ?
[09:58] <theconartist> intelikey, find what
[09:58] <daskog> odat: there, im done
[09:58] <theconartist> intelikey, the package?
[09:58] <intelikey> theconartist e16  what are you trying to install
[09:58] <intelikey> yes
[09:58] <odat> daskog, after all of that hit ok then YES and synaptic libraries will update themselves once that is done you can click it off because a little window will pop up at the bottom that says upgrade available do you want to install. You can not use this kickass feature when you have synaptic open so click install updates and let it update your system. once its done restart your computer and make sure to come back so i know your ok lol
[09:59] <theconartist> intelikey, yes
[09:59] <andy_mitsound> g'day
[09:59] <intelikey> theconartist then it should install.... maybe you have a config hanging aroung from a former install ?    look in /etc
[10:00] <odat> daskog, still here?
[10:00] <daskog> ok
[10:00] <odat> daskog, one more thing
[10:00] <daskog> mm
[10:00] <odat> daskog, i imagine you want to be able to view windows media files and stuff right?
[10:00] <non-owned_nick> ANyone able to help me with an authentication problem with synaptic/update manager?
[10:01] <daskog> yea sure
[10:01] <odat> daskog, k still have synaptic open?
[10:01] <non-owned_nick> All packages are unauthenticated
[10:01] <daskog> 5 sek
[10:01] <Irvine> how to cd to cd-rom?
[10:01] <non-owned_nick> Been like it for a couple days now.
[10:02] <daskog> odat: now its open again
[10:02] <theconartist> intelikey, not that i see
[10:02] <Irvine> how to change directory to cd-rom?
[10:02] <odat> daskog, k go back to settings and repositories
[10:02] <Irvine> in terminal
[10:02] <daskog> k
[10:03] <andy_mitsound> i want to install the sun java jre , thats my first time, which version should i use ?
[10:03] <odat> daskog, click add then custom
[10:03] <intelikey> theconartist i know this may sound silly but do a dpkg -i <package>  just to make sure it's not installed
[10:03] <theconartist> apt tells me it is not available
[10:03] <zzbe> hihi everyone
[10:03] <odat> daskog, then copy and paste this in         deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[10:03] <intelikey> or is that -li
[10:03] <odat> daskog, hit ok
[10:03] <odat> daskog, then
[10:03] <Irvine> how to change directory to cd-rom?
[10:03] <Irvine> anyone
[10:04] <odat> daskog, do it again and copy and paste this in      deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu breezy main
[10:04] <daskog> ok
[10:04] <theconartist> intelikey, nope
[10:04] <intelikey> Irvine cd <path>
[10:04] <odat> daskog, and hit ok
[10:04] <intelikey> theconartist idk.
[10:05] <theconartist> ppoopie
[10:05] <odat> once you install all your update we will get mplayer    and or your movie player working damn nice     thats after your restart of course lol
[10:05] <Irvine> intelikey,how?i don't know its patch.
[10:05] <stroh> who can tell  me should i use  i use Linux RPM (self-extracting file) or Linux (self-extracting file)?  for install the sun jre
[10:06] <blaamann> stroh: The last one
[10:06] <intelikey> Irvine /cdrom   maybe  :)     lest look in /mnt/
[10:06] <stroh> k thx
[10:06] <non-owned_nick> the wiki instructions for fixing synaptic are fubar
[10:06] <non-owned_nick> try looking in /madia
[10:06] <intelikey> Irvine maybe even  /media/
[10:06] <newbies> how run run check disk in my ubuntu?
[10:06] <intelikey> fsck newbies
[10:07] <daskog> odat: could not download all repository indexes!
[10:07] <Irvine> intelikey,ok
[10:07] <Chousuke> hm. /
[10:07] <newbies> intelikey, ty
[10:07] <Irvine> i done it
[10:07] <Chousuke> can't make freenx work
[10:07] <non-owned_nick> I have the same problem
[10:07] <odat> daskog, those last two i had you put in did you put the entire line in or just the url?
[10:07] <kareljan> hello
[10:07] <kareljan> I'm new in linux
[10:08] <kareljan> can anyone help me?
[10:08] <intelikey> newbies it's fsck<tabkey><tabkey>  for a list and  man fsck.vfat   or what ever fs type for the howto
[10:08] <Chousuke> I'm trying to connect to my freenx server with the OS X client, but it fails the first time with "failed to set authorisation cookie" and the next time it seems like it's working, but I see only black.
[10:08] <blaamann>  kareljan: Dont ask to ask
[10:08] <non-owned_nick> lo Toma-     bit warm today eh
[10:08] <kareljan> I need to install realvnc
[10:08] <daskog> odat: entire line
[10:08] <kareljan> but i have no idea how to do it
[10:09] <odat> daskog, did it say somthing about not being able to verify gpg or something like that?
[10:09] <non-owned_nick> Anyone know why security updates can't be authenticated (same problem for 5 or so days now)
[10:09] <daskog> it sayd might not longer be avalible
[10:09] <daskog> or somthin like that
[10:09] <kareljan> no i just haven't ever installed something on linux
[10:09] <WebLOCH> hey guys, what partitioning software do you use?
[10:10] <intelikey> !find vnc
[10:10] <Irvine> qtparted
[10:10] <odat> daskog, this thing that no biggy i have that too   it doesn't affect anything
[10:10] <intelikey> lists 15 potential victoms
[10:10] <kareljan> !find vnc
[10:10] <WebLOCH> Irvine, i tried that it doesnt seem to want to let me resize an extended partition
[10:11] <liable> apt-cache search?? :)
[10:11] <daskog> odat: http://pastebin.com/488408
[10:11] <intelikey> kareljan  linuxvnc  may be what you are looking for
[10:11] <newbies> intelikey, can i check disk on my mounted devices?
[10:11] <kareljan> how do I install a package?
[10:11] <newbies> intelikey, the device is on /dev/hda1
[10:11] <non-owned_nick> kareljan,    do you need 'realvnc' or just a vnc app?
[10:12] <odat> daskog, k hold on thats not the right thingy give me a sec
[10:12] <intelikey> newbies it is not recomended.        newbies read the man page on fsck.*
[10:12] <daskog> odat:http://pastebin.com/488409
[10:12] <non-owned_nick> kareljan,    try selecting system, administration, synaptic package manager, choose search and look for vnc
[10:12] <newbies> intelikey, awkis
[10:12] <intelikey> newbies you can umount non-/ partitions and fsck them.
[10:13] <intelikey> ? awkis
[10:13] <odat> daskog, are you using amd64?
[10:13] <daskog> yes
[10:13] <daskog> amd x2
[10:14] <non-owned_nick> the .au security repositories seem to be broken, if anyone cares.
[10:14] <odat> daskog, k didn't know that   hold on
[10:14] <daskog> i forgot to tell
[10:15] <weekang> hey
[10:15] <odat> daskog, k those two libraries i had you put in synaptic are not for amd64 so you can go back in synaptic and remove them from the list then update again
[10:15] <weekang> where do i file/browse bug reports for dapper flight 2?
[10:16] <Irvine> webloch,you can download system rescue cd
[10:17] <daskog> oh now i dont remember wich one lol
[10:17] <odat> daskog, they are most likely the two at the bottom of the list
[10:18] <daskog> odat: ok
[10:18] <daskog> done
[10:19] <odat> daskog, ok cool you might as well do the update thingy  close synaptic and click on that little icon that keeps bugging you about updating you system
[10:19] <kareljan> can someone help me to install realvnc?
[10:19] <Hendikins> Is it just me, or did this slip completely under the radar? http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb05-07.html
[10:19] <kareljan> in a private box?
[10:20] <daskog> odat: ok i i'll do that
[10:20] <windowmaker> anybody know how to fix the sound sync problem in flash player (for firefox?)
[10:21] <windowmaker> what happened to this channel? =O, nobody's talking
[10:21] <Hendikins> windowmaker: That's been bugging me for god knows how long. Since it happens with gflashplayer as well, I suspect it is a problem with Macromedia's code, not ours.
[10:22] <binarydigit> kareljan: ask questions
[10:23] <intelikey> hmmm this is odd, i have man-db installed  but info man-db says package does not exist....
[10:23] <bettong_BOFH> can someone help me with a media player/keyboard isshue
[10:24] <binarydigit> not until you say what it is
[10:24] <Hoxzer> can I somehow make lm-sensors to show up my CPU tempature on the dekstop?
[10:24] <Irvine> how to open wine folder?
[10:24] <Toma-> Hoxzer: with gdesklets you can
[10:24] <windowmaker> Hendikins, but i have heard of so many people who have fixed it, but every guide i follow doesn't work good for me, i've gone as far to get the sound worknig, but not in sync
[10:24] <bettong_BOFH> open up a terminal and type cd .wine
[10:24] <Hoxzer> Toma-: I'm using Gnome ;/
[10:24] <intelikey> Hoxzer if you can check it from cli you can make it display on the desktop
[10:25] <Toma-> Hoxzer: gdesklets is for gnome
[10:25] <daskog> odat: gona restart brb
[10:25] <Hoxzer> oh
[10:25] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:25] <Hendikins> windowmaker: All I know is that the problem isn't with our (as in Firefox) code. I'm yet to see a cure-all fix myself.
[10:26] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me how to do this?
[10:26] <kareljan> if you have installed a package, where do you find it then?
[10:26] <binarydigit> kareljan: in the gnome menu , or just type the command
[10:27] <windowmaker> =(
[10:27] <kareljan> I use de kde interface
[10:27] <binarydigit> well then it would be in the kde menu
[10:27] <kareljan> any idea where? I have installed a vncserver
[10:28] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:28] <binarydigit> kareljan: try typing the command in a terminal
[10:28] <kareljan> I'm the newest newbie on the plannet
[10:28] <intelikey> what's that command to fix broken packages again ?
[10:29] <Hendikins> windowmaker: I'll keep an eye out for a reliable fix and add it to PluginDoc if I see it. Sorry I couldn't help you right now though.
[10:29] <kareljan> what would the command be?
[10:29] <binarydigit> kareljan: try typing vnc and then hit tab and see if it autocompletes
[10:30] <daskog> odat: there, now i have updatet and restarted
[10:30] <liable> kareljan: kde normally comes with a vncserver, called remote desktop..
[10:30] <Irvine> how to explore C:/ that wine created?
[10:31] <fli7e> where are temporary files stored? typically in the home folder?
[10:31] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me how can I configure gdesklets
[10:31] <liable> Irvine: with a file manager? its in ~/.wine
[10:31] <liable> Irvine: or regedit
[10:32] <kareljan> liable:  how do you set it to server?
[10:32] <Irvine> liable:how to open it?
[10:32] <liable> kareljan: look in the networking menu is there no remote desktop thingy there?
[10:32] <intelikey> Irvine nautilus browse to ~/.wine/
[10:33] <topyli> fli7e: in /tmp typically.. sometimes in ~/tmp. some services store them in /var/tmp
[10:33] <liable> Irvine: its a hidden directory (show hidden files)
[10:33] <kareljan> liable:  no idea I'm new at linux. And I haven't find the way's yet
[10:34] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:34] <liable> kareljan: keep looking in menus..
[10:34] <daskog> Odat!!
[10:34] <Irvine> intelikey,then
[10:34] <bettong_BOFH> omg someone has built a linux powerd keg fridge O_o
[10:34] <kareljan> in the consome how do i  do somthing like cd in dos?
[10:34] <Hendikins> Hrm. All googling does is get me acknowledgement from Macromedia that audio gets out of sync. Go figure.
[10:34] <Luna-Tick> Hello all. I am prepared to donate US$20 to Ubuntu if I can find 5 others who are prepared to do so as well.
[10:35] <liable> kareljan: um.. cd? :P
[10:35] <binarydigit> kareljan: i suggest reading a linux basic tutorial before doing anything further
[10:35] <odat> daskog, yea
[10:35] <Tomcat_> lol Luna-Tick.
[10:35] <poningru> kareljan: cd
[10:35] <Tomcat_> I wonder if I ever donated...
[10:35] <poningru> !bash
[10:35] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:35] <fli7e> topyli, when does /tmp get emptied? automatically as needed?
[10:35] <Luna-Tick> Any reason I got a laugh, tomcat?
[10:35] <kareljan> binarydigit: where do i find the tutorial?
[10:35] <poningru> kareljan: follow that link
[10:35] <kareljan> ok thanx
[10:35] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: It's a weird idea. Not bad of course.
[10:35] <binarydigit> kareljan: use your brain and search google
[10:35] <daskog> odat: ok
[10:35] <ompaul> kareljan, that ling that poningru just had the bot put on the screen
[10:35] <daskog> now what?
[10:36] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: I donated 25 EUR to Wikipedia lately, so I can't participate...
[10:36] <intelikey> Hendikins yes at least i have more time than money :)
[10:36] <Luna-Tick> There are a lot of people who keep saying they will and don't get around to it. I just thought that I would provide the impetus for those to actually do it :)
[10:36] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Yeah it's certainly good. :)
[10:36] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, well given the resources of Mark Shuttleworth I would give it to the debian project or freenode or something
[10:36] <Kindred> i'm not sure Ubuntu is short on cash.. :|
[10:36] <Hendikins> intelikey: My time has proven invaluable to the Mozilla folks, and I'm sure it can be useful around here in a related capcity.
[10:37] <topyli> fli7e: apps should clean after themslelves unless they are buggy
[10:37] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, the man behind it is worth the guts of a half a billion dollars
[10:37] <fli7e> topyli, thanks
[10:37] <intelikey> Hendikins i'm sure.
[10:37] <Luna-Tick> Sadly my programming skills aren't quite up to standard :(.
[10:37] <Luna-Tick> Ompaul, that is true, but even the $20mill which he has put into it can't really sustain a complete OS
[10:37] <odat> daskog, everything ok
[10:38] <bettong_BOFH> Hendikins, hey speakin of mozilla i have a problem that you might know of....how come when i click on a link in email or in well anything that isen't mozilla i have to copy and paste it into there? is there a way to fix it?
[10:38] <topyli> fli7e: if you create something in your ~/tmp, then you'll be the one who gets to clean up too :)
[10:38] <poningru> Luna-Tick: you'd be surprised how little an os needs
[10:38] <daskog> yupp
[10:38] <tronix> Mark did have other neat uses for USD $20M... a ride up to the space station. Lucky guy.
[10:38] <Luna-Tick> And to my mind one man shouldn't finance something that everybody used.
[10:39] <Luna-Tick> poningru: Is that how little it needs, or how little it can survive on while still keeping an internet site ;)?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Look at Wikipedia, how huge it is... and they need "only" about 1M USD per year. :)
[10:39] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, well wait until there is a call for cash in the mean time give the money to debian or freenode which also provide support to the project
[10:39] <Hendikins> bettong_BOFH: That isn't a Mozilla problem. Check you Gnome and application settings, specifically the URL handler.
[10:39] <daskog> odat: working fine
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Compared to Ubuntu, which is much smaller, ... :o
[10:39] <poningru> bettong_BOFH: thats a prob with gnome, make sure you have gnome browser default as mozilla
[10:39] <poningru> or what hendi said
[10:39] <daskog> Thanks
[10:39] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[10:39] <bettong_BOFH> thank you very much
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: You could give to Ubuntuforums.org... I did that once.
[10:39] <Irvine> how to run applications that install in wine?
[10:39] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, after all hundreds of problems get answered here every day
[10:40] <odat> daskog, did you get icon on the desktop yet?
[10:40] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag. Documentation for example can be vastly more helpful than code at times, and is a very thankless task
[10:40] <Hendikins> poningru: evening
[10:40] <Tomcat_> Irvine: wine myapp.exe
[10:40] <poningru> morning :)
[10:40] <poningru> I should really go to bed
[10:40] <KarlosII> dang no help in samba
[10:40] <daskog> odat: what you mean icon?
[10:40] <KarlosII> every is dead atm
[10:40] <odat> daskog, icons i mean
[10:40] <Luna-Tick> Interesting point, Hendikins. Perhaps I should look into that.
[10:41] <poningru> Tomcat_: they dont even need that
[10:41] <daskog> odat, Im trying to pick up a nice theme but im not sure whats hot
[10:41] <bettong_BOFH> i have a question if i have .ogg files on my computer do i have to make them .mp3 to burn them to cd?
[10:41] <poningru> Tomcat_: we are just starting to hire people
[10:41] <odat> daskog, nuvola
[10:41] <bettong_BOFH> or can i switch everything over to .ogg
[10:41] <Luna-Tick> bettong: No
[10:41] <daskog> odat, found some nice icons thoe
[10:42] <poningru> Tomcat_: but most of the bandwidth is donated, a large percent of the boxen were donated as well
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> bettong: You can use .oggs very well within Ubuntu
[10:42] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: you mean to burn audio cds? they are made just as well from oggs
[10:42] <odat> daskog, go into synaptic and install gnome theme extras and then select nuvola
[10:42] <poningru> well after the last purchase a small percentage I guess
[10:42] <Tomcat_> poningru: Wikipedia? Yeah I was doing a pretty bad estimate there. :)
[10:42] <poningru> Tomcat_: yeah hehe
[10:42] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:42] <bettong_BOFH> awsome cause i have some video files and lost of music is there an easyer way to switch them over from .mp3/.wma to .ogg/whatever is good for video?
[10:43] <poningru> ok I should really go to sleep
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> bettong: Creating an audio CD from .oggs should just be a drag-and-drop affair
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> nice
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> Serpintine should do it really well
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> it seems that .ogg sounds somewhat better than mp3 to me
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> thank you
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> I wouldn't convert them
[10:43] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: it sounds more free :)
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> why not?
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> You are always best to preserve them in the original formats
[10:43] <mjr> bettong_BOFH, recoding existing mp3 and other files shouldn't usually be done; converting between lossy formats is bound to worsen the quality
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> Otherwise you are
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> There you go ;)
[10:44] <kareljan> can anyone help?
[10:44] <bettong_BOFH> hmmm
[10:44] <ompaul> !anyone#
[10:44] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:44] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:44] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:44] <kareljan> if i want to install something in /usr/local/bin it says that I have no permission
[10:44] <mjr> bettong_BOFH, ogg should be better, yes, when converted from the original non-lossy source
[10:44] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: when you compressed to mp3, something was lost. when you convert the mp3 to ogg, something else will be lost. the end result will bw worse than either
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> bettong: different formats drop different parts of music to get to the smaller file, so if you do one then the other, then you lose both parts
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[10:45] <bettong_BOFH> i can't find that serpintine app in synaptic O_o
[10:45] <odat> daskog, well i gotta go to bed  i would tell you how to totally setup your system but have the fun is discovery and conquest
[10:45] <odat> lol
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> It is part of Ubuntu 5.10
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> serpentin
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> e
[10:45] <kareljan> can someone help me in a privatebox with an instalation
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> serpentine, not serpintine
[10:45] <kareljan> ?
[10:46] <Luna-Tick> If you use Breezy, I think it should just be in your sound and video menue
[10:46] <ompaul> kareljan, why not ask in the channel because no one knows if they can or can't until you ask the full question
[10:46] <daskog> odat, thank you so much
[10:46] <binarydigit> !tell kareljan about anyone
[10:46] <daskog> odat, realy preciated it
[10:46] <ompaul> kareljan, and surprisingly enough that is what the channel is here for
[10:47] <odat> daskog, no prob and seriously half the fun is discover and conquest  its all really cool and don't forget free lol
[10:47] <daskog> iknow
[10:47] <odat> see ya
[10:47] <daskog> yupp bye
[10:47] <kareljan> can someone tell me step by step what to do to install realvnc (www.realvnc.com)
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> ok i already have it due to automatix but i was wondering how to convert files already on the hard drive? from mp3 to ogg
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> it seems that it's a cd burning app
[10:48] <ompaul> !automatix
[10:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> hmm thats the first i have herd that
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> why is it a secrety flaw?
[10:49] <xxenon> hello
[10:49] <xxenon> would it be possible to make-kpg linux-source-2.6.1x and install the .deb on a debian box ?
[10:49] <bob_4_a_day> howto close a screen in irssi-text ?
[10:50] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, it sets a root password iirc
[10:50] <Luna-Tick> I must confess that I am a little surprised at how negative people were towards donations. To me it is as good as any other way that one can help. They will use well whatever they get given and every little bit helps. Either way, it is better than other operating systems which I have paid many hundreds for, so I will throw a few dollars their way.
[10:50] <vega-> xxenon: sure
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> omg
[10:50] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, amountg other things
[10:50] <kareljan> can anyone help me with the installation?
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> that is horrible i will change that like right now or does it trash the box and i have to redoo it? >.<
[10:50] <vega-> and it install all pakcages with --force-all
[10:50] <vega-> which is really stupid
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> if i had known that i would have avoided it like windows
[10:50] <ompaul> kareljan, using synaptic install these xvncviewer vncserver
[10:51] <bob_4_a_day> anybody know howto close a screen in irssi-text ?
[10:51] <TengkSA> What program do you use to burn cds/dvds?