[07:17] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea? see ive been through tutorials of different lagnuages.. boring as heck to me.. i want to jump in and learn each piece as i go, as i need it
[07:17] <ale3hs> how do I register my nick in freenode??
[07:17] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:17] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What tool did you use to set it up? Just the installer?
[07:17] <mt_holden_ss> yep
[07:17] <subbie> WhyteShadow, if you are really new to programming you should remeber baby steps are important
[07:17] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:17] <mt_holden_ss> i used the installer
[07:17] <BotBuilder> whyte - learn one lang
[07:17] <BotBuilder> and the others come easy
[07:18] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: It should work, but maybe not. Open up a terminal.
[07:18] <mt_holden_ss> i installed xp then ubuntu
[07:18] <kriiiile> anyone got time to help a new to ubuntu user with some prolly easy questions
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> subbie, well im not new new.. i know what a variable and an array are
[07:18] <Fujitsu> kriiiile: Maybe in a minute... Wait a sec.
[07:18] <crimsun> kriiiile: shoot
[07:18] <Xenguy> kriiiile: ask
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, hehe , thats new enough :)
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> and ive programed a bit in java before, wasnt my favorite language
[07:18] <Madpilot> kriiiile: just ask, someone can problably help
[07:18] <WhyteShadow> subbie, hehe yea
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, find something small that interests you, maybe write your own ASCII based game or something
[07:18] <BotBuilder> lol yeah, java kind of sux
[07:18] <BotBuilder> I'd recommend C#
[07:18] <subbie> WhyteShadow, try to find something thats not to difficult but interesting to you
[07:18] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Have you opened a terminal?
[07:19] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i did write a small number guessing game in C
[07:19] <BotBuilder> Althouhg personally i'm a boo fan, C# is cool
[07:19] <mt_holden_ss> trying to find it
[07:19] <ale3hs> guys please somebody help me with adjuta, I have pissed of !!
[07:19] <subbie> i personally love programming in Java
[07:19] <ale3hs> anjuta
[07:19] <Xenguy> bye
[07:19] <kriiiile> well 1 off im trying to get accsess to a hard drive i pluged in so i shared it but accsess is not granted accept from management mode
[07:19] <subbie> but mostly i deal with C/ASM
[07:19] <BotBuilder> subbie - eh, i dont like some of the limitations
[07:19] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss:  Application->Accessories->Terminal
[07:19] <BotBuilder> ah
[07:19] <Fujitsu> subbie: ASM is good.
[07:19] <crimsun> kriiiile: from Windows XP?
[07:19] <BotBuilder> well if that's what you're used to then java would be cool yes
[07:19] <mt_holden_ss> ok terminal up
[07:19] <subbie> Fujitsu, hehe, sometimes i get frustrated having to write 8 pages of code to do something that seems simple :)
[07:19] <kriiiile> no just as regular login in ubuntu
[07:19] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: type 'sudo vim /etc/fstab'
[07:20] <Fujitsu> WIthout the quotes
[07:20] <WhyteShadow> subbie, what do you code in?
[07:20] <Fujitsu> subbie: True, but it is fast..
[07:20] <Xenguy> kriiiile: huh
[07:20] <kriiiile> if i use system / admin i can acses disk
[07:20] <n0dl> is their a cli app for aim?
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> ok done
[07:20] <kriiiile> not from any other place
[07:20] <subbie> WhyteShadow, generall C and ASM, but only because i have to :).  i really do enjoy programming in Java
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> i entered in my pass
[07:20] <crimsun> kriiiile: I meant what origin is the drive, as in did you use it originally in Windows XP?
[07:20] <Hobbsee> n0dl: gaim?
[07:20] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea? why do you like java so much?
[07:20] <vanberge> mushroom, thanks for your help.  im booting a vm now.
[07:20] <Hobbsee> oh, sorry
[07:20] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Can you find the line for the partition?
[07:20] <mt_holden_ss> yep
[07:20] <vanberge> mushroom, now i just have to hack it :-)
[07:20] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What does it say?
[07:20] <kriiiile> yes it was used in a window 2000 b4 with movies etc on
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[07:21] <Fujitsu> OK.
[07:21] <subbie> WhyteShadow, i'm not sure really.  I like the syntax of the language and how they have libraries for every data structure i use often
[07:21] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Easy to fix!
[07:21] <crimsun> kriiiile: then you need to mount the partition with 'umask=022'
[07:21] <mushroom> well done .
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> yay, im glad to her
[07:21] <mt_holden_ss> now how?
[07:21] <subbie> WhyteShadow, that's like asking me why i like french fries :)
[07:21] <n0dl> hobbsee: i mean in cli (command line... no x(
[07:21] <crimsun> kriiiile: for instance, in the /etc/fstab file, I have "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    umask=022,nls=utf8  0       0"
[07:21] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i see, ive playd with python a bit and kinda like it.. i still keep swaying between languages.. my biggest issue is i have so much i want to do.. and have to do
[07:21] <Hobbsee> n0dl: yeah, sorry, i realised that after i hit enter....
[07:22] <n0dl> Hobbsee, its ok
[07:22] <mt_holden_ss> fujitsu do u want to start a new channel so its easier to communicate
[07:22] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Move to where it says defaults, press i, and enter users and umask=0222 in addition to the defaults, seperated by commas.
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, python was very very weird to me at first, but its actually rather nice when you get used to it
[07:22] <SpAwN> crap i got eth0 up but now when i use "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper" its says there is no package
[07:22] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Almost done!
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, like i said, i'd suggest taking baby steps.  Perl or python would be fine for you to learn with
[07:22] <crimsun> kriiiile: you will need to add 'umask=022' to the fourth column from the left edge under the "<options>" column
[07:22] <kriiiile> crimsun, can i type that in patch in gnome mode ?
[07:22] <BotBuilder> WhyteShadow: yeah, python's cool
[07:22] <subbie> WhyteShadow, personally i think java is an excellent learning language too, but not everybody agrees.
[07:22] <BotBuilder> I don't like dynamic typing but hey
[07:23] <BotBuilder> oh yeah java is a cool learning language
[07:23] <subbie> the only thing to keep in mind with python is that most other languages are NOT white space sensative
[07:23] <crimsun> kriiiile: you can open Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[07:23] <WhyteShadow> subbie, i thought about php as well, but one thing i loved about python was i could test little scripts right then and there
[07:23] <Fujitsu> Java is OK for learning.
[07:23] <Fujitsu> But not for anything else.
[07:23] <BotBuilder> fujitsu - i agree
[07:23] <BotBuilder> well
[07:23] <szehne> SpAwN, go into synaptic, and search for ndiswrapper-utils
[07:23] <SpAwN> do i need to set up apt-get like urpmi ...like set sources and stuff?
[07:23] <subbie> WhyteShadow, you can actually use command line php.  but learning with PHP would be fine too!  really it doesn't matter that much as long as youipck one and stick to it
[07:23] <SpAwN> k
[07:23] <BotBuilder> yeah
[07:23] <Fujitsu> SpAwN: The installer will have done that.
[07:23] <crimsun> kriiiile: then type: ''gksudo gedit /etc/fstab''
[07:23] <BotBuilder> A version of basic would work too
[07:23] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea i tend to have that issue as well, keep geetting distracteed and reading to much anti language this and that
[07:23] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: How are you going?
[07:24] <vanberge> Fujitsu, he just installed.  he probably needs to add repos
[07:24] <szehne> SpAwN, if nothing comes up, go to repositories menu, and add a "universe" repository if there isn't one already
[07:24] <mt_holden_ss> i cant delete the word defaults
[07:24] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:24] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Just leave it.
[07:24] <BotBuilder> ;p
[07:24] <subbie> WhyteShadow, no matter WHAT language you choose to program/script in, there will always be somebody that doesn't like it.. pick one and stick to it.. any of the ones you or bot or me mentionted is fine.
[07:24] <mt_holden_ss> wat
[07:24] <BotBuilder> look up, click link
[07:24] <BotBuilder> Figure out solution!
[07:24] <Madpilot> !tell SpAwN about repos
[07:24] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Change it to 'default,users,umask=0222'
[07:25] <SpAwN> nice
[07:25] <SpAwN> i got it
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> rrr it wont let me past it
[07:25] <phu> what's wrong with learning C?
[07:25] <WhyteShadow> subbie, well the reason i was thinking php was to have a website to promote my comic i try to do.. thast another hobbie of mine.. and i dunno its hard to find time to fit it all
[07:25] <szehne> SpAwn, have you got it from here, or do you need help?
[07:25] <BotBuilder> yeah, WhyteShadow, I'd pick a mainstream language and then once you're proficient you can move to what you like best
[07:25] <crimsun> phu: there's nothing wrong with learning any language
[07:25] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: What do you mean?
[07:25] <phu> I've learned so many languages, and C is still my favorite.
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> fukitsu is ther a way that u can start a new channel
[07:25] <Nelo> Hello, how do i keep the terminal window size permanently?
[07:25] <szehne> SpAwn, oh! and if you want super easy install, get ndisgtk
[07:25] <mt_holden_ss> or is ther a web site explainin all this?
[07:26] <BotBuilder> Blasphemy!
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> subbie. yea your right , i just wish i could stop all the interan termoiland pick one.. and acutally find a project
[07:26] <subbie> WhyteShadow, its an excellent idea to pick PHP if you want to code something in it that you will actually use!  that will keep you motivated to continue learning! since it is something you plan on using
[07:26] <BotBuilder> mt_holden_ss: just join whatever channel you wnat to create
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> to devote time to
[07:26] <Fujitsu> mt_holden_ss: Which channel?
[07:26] <BotBuilder> like /join #foobarloo
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> subbie, see thats just it.. i want to do stuff that people or myself can use and stuff
[07:26] <WhyteShadow> with artwork or setting up networks or servers or something i have no problems
[07:26] <mt_holden_ss> join #partition
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> thinking of ideas
[07:27] <subbie> WhyteShadow, like BotBuilder said, once you have a good understand of programming the language is pretty irrelevant, you just learn the little quirks.  its most important to learn what data structures are available and when to use them.  also commonly used algorithms
[07:27] <srv4nt> which would you all recommend... php or ruby on rails
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> ahh, ok
[07:27] <srv4nt> i cant make up my mind
[07:27] <WhyteShadow> ive also heard of ruby, and it seems kinda neat too
[07:27] <Fujitsu> php.
[07:27] <crimsun> srv4nt: evaluate both
[07:27] <BotBuilder> srv4nt - I'd learn ruby on rails as i've heard it kicks ass
[07:28] <BotBuilder> although php is more common
[07:28] <BotBuilder> I don't  know either ;p
[07:28] <srv4nt> my hope is to start with ruby, and move on to php afterwards
[07:28] <srv4nt> but that way i may end up just learning ruby
[07:28] <subbie> php is excellent and so is the documentation, you can't reallly go WRONG with it.
[07:28] <WhyteShadow> hmm
[07:28] <devint> Can I make animated gif's with GIMP?
[07:28] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Whats the command to restart mysql-server?
[07:28] <kriiiile> crimsun, check pm if u have time
[07:28] <WhyteShadow> breezy kicks ass
[07:28] <Fujitsu> /etc/init.d/mysql restart, I think.
[07:28] <crimsun> logical_mark: sudo invoke-rc.d mysql restart
[07:28] <BotBuilder> yeah, php might be the safest, ruby on rails the most rewarding
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> Linux ibook 2.6.12-9-powerpc #1 Mon Oct 10 15:26:45 BST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[07:29] <subbie> WhyteShadow, jealousy, you have a powerbook or what?
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> ibook g3 clamshell acutally
[07:29] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:29] <crimsun> WhyteShadow: you should update to the security errata kernel
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> i also have an ibook g4 downstairs, as well as another clamshell
[07:29] <BotBuilder> Do i really have to keep spamming this link?
[07:29] <subbie> ahh, i have an ibook g4, but last time i checked my extrem wireless wasn't supported :-\
[07:29] <khan> hi everyone
[07:29] <szehne> any body know about switching the bash prompt in terminal everytime it starts up? i'm tired of running "export PS1..."
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> yea its not yet
[07:29] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: What does it mean if MySQLCC is reporting "[localhost]  ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)"
[07:29] <LinuxKnight> hola
[07:29] <WhyteShadow> still reverse engineering it all
[07:30] <LinuxKnight> powerbooks with ubuntu? you guys got it working well?
[07:30] <Fujitsu> logical_mark: Probably means that it isn't running.
[07:30] <crimsun> kriiiile: you're not identified, so I don't receive any privmsgs from you.
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> crimsumk, why the errata kernel? i just got breezy installed yesterday
[07:30] <LinuxKnight> i have a g3 pb
[07:30] <crimsun> WhyteShadow: fixes several security issues
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> i also have a pb 1400/166, works well
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> ahh
[07:30] <logical_mark> Fujitsu: Well my php is connecting to it and so is MySQL-Admin
[07:30] <crimsun> kriiiile: /msg nickserv help identify
[07:30] <Fujitsu> Odd.
[07:30] <subbie> last i checked ubuntu worked fine with an airport card, but not with an airport extreme.  other than that ubuntu ran fine on my ibook g4
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> im using the automatic update thing on breezy for it i think
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> works nice
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> subbie, im on a regular airport card now
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> im laying on my bed
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> with the lappie
[07:30] <WhyteShadow> my cats asleep next to me
[07:31] <subbie> yeah, i have airport extreme though, and supposedly its still not supported :(
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> automatix yes i ran it on my breezy install on my centrino laptop worked well :D
[07:31] <WhyteShadow> subbie, yea not yet.. soon i think though]
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> my pb still running el tigre
[07:31] <BotBuilder> Ok, I figure I'll doa forum post then
[07:31] <WhyteShadow> tiger is nice too, i need to put breezy on my main pc boxen
[07:31] <BotBuilder> for:
[07:31] <BotBuilder> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/33322584592.jpg&s=x12
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Well, I am sitting in front of a desk, with a pathetic PIII 866MHz desktop, at 31 degress Celsius
[07:31] <LinuxKnight> i don't have airport on that tho, have an assortment of other pcmcia cards
[07:31] <subbie> my IB is running 10.3.9 until airport extreme works :)
[07:31] <SpAwN> hmm i dont get it...the same driver i used on my other linux computer with ndiswrapper says it doesnt work :/
[07:32] <WhyteShadow> i also need to setup ipcop as my router.. but need a wireless nic for it
[07:32] <cyphase> hey everyone
[07:32] <LinuxKnight> ubuntu worked with my "centrino" laptop out of the box, but fedora needed manual installation of the prism54 drivers
[07:32] <LinuxKnight> heh
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> fedora blows in my opinion
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> as well as many rpm distros ive used
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> rpms are terrible i think
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> i used to tinker with debian, apt-get rocks... but some other parts of it were eehhh
[07:33] <szehne> anyone know about terminal customization?
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> i had nothing but dependency hell with them
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> but ubuntu is the best of both worlds
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> apt is awesome
[07:33] <subbie> its not so much the actual RPM packaging thats the problem, its the dependency hell
[07:33] <LinuxKnight> apt rocks my world :D
[07:33] <WhyteShadow> well yea.. thats why i hated rpms.. only a few worked without depency hell
[07:34] <Juhaz> usually it's clueless users who go around installing packages MEANT FOR OTHER DISTROS, then turn around blaming rpm
[07:34] <subbie> i thought i read that they wre trying to have fedora use YUM ?
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> fedora got better, yum was cool but still not as ... refined? as apt
[07:34] <subbie> YUM is better than no YUM :)
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> yeah yum is getting there
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> mmm food
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> yum yum
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> better than nothing
[07:34] <subbie> the problem with redhat is that they just dont really have an up to date repository for users to install packages from
[07:34] <WhyteShadow> i just guess im biased towwards apt and bsd's ports and portage
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> they leave that to fedora
[07:34] <subbie> thats why gentoo and debian based distros are so great.
[07:34] <LinuxKnight> which is sometimes not always stable
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i mean how easy is it to open a terminal and install what you need
[07:35] <subbie> nice big repository that settles dependencies for you :)
[07:35] <LinuxKnight> fedora is kinda bleeding edge
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i was using debian sid.. but i borked it pretty bad being careless so i went to ubuntu
[07:35] <LinuxKnight> with ubuntu just fire up synaptic or an xterm
[07:35] <cyphase> just upgraded to X-Chat 2.6.0 from backports
[07:35] <WhyteShadow> i see a lot of debian zealots bashing ubuntu and so forth, its funny to listen to them
[07:35] <subbie> i prefer ubuntu =X
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> yea some debian ppl can be rather elitist and purist
[07:36] <subbie> i actually prefer gentoo but i got tired of all the waiting, teehee
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> ubuntu is still debian, but with some extra shmear on the bagel :D
[07:36] <WhyteShadow> i despise the elitist quality and at the same time adore it
[07:36] <subbie> plus i had a HELL of a time getting the chipset that came with this shuttle computer working. ubunut did it all for me "out of the box"
[07:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> at least we don't have debian and ubuntu zealots suicide-bombing each other
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Yes. Good thing.
[07:36] <Sneaky_Bastard> (at least not that I am aware of)
[07:36] <LinuxKnight> gentoo is fun to do if you have a server farm to compile stuff... but waiting for it on your only desktop can get old ;D
[07:36] <Fujitsu> Heheheh
[07:37] <subbie> i absolutley love having gentoo on my desktop that i use all the time though but for my MythTV and my laptop, its ubuntu :)
[07:37] <drumline> I just installed a program and it started configuring apache1 instead of apache2... Should I have it redo the whole install after removing apache1 ?
[07:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> "Debian uber alles!" .... "Ubunto Akbar!"
[07:37] <Sneaky_Bastard> BOOM!
[07:37] <subbie> drumline, i actually had a simliar problem.
[07:37] <arnducky> ALLAH AKHBAR -- THERE IS NO GOD BUT GOD,  and TUX IS RASUL ALLAH (the apostle of G-d)!
[07:37] <subbie> drumline, i ended up just reinstalling the application but, i'm sure you could fiddle and get it to work if you wanted
[07:38] <mister_roboto> subbie: do you have suspend and hibernate working on your laptop?
[07:38] <drumline> subbie: i'll tell you what I find out :)
[07:38] <WhyteShadow> god.. my cat takes up the entire right side of my bed
[07:38] <subbie> mister_roboto, no sir, but i haven't looked into it
[07:38] <cenopec> ahaha is there an undo command in terminal
[07:38] <subbie> drumline,  :)
[07:38] <jrattner1> mister_roboto, i have problems resuming from hibernate
[07:38] <WhyteShadow> hehe i get to do m sr projecty for my bachelors on mythtv
[07:38] <mister_roboto> jrattner1: same here.  garbage on screen and lockup
[07:39] <subbie> ok well its past my bedtime, goodnight folks and goodluck with what ails you :)
[07:39] <Sneaky_Bastard> go ahead, make my day
[07:39] <jrattner1> mister_roboto, i diabled most ACPI functions on my laptop i find it works better
[07:39] <WhyteShadow> you too subbie take care
[07:39] <Fujitsu> See you subbie!
[07:39] <mister_roboto> jarattner: resume from suspend actually seems to work but the screen doesn't turn on!   i can hear the disk when i do "ls" and stuff :)
[07:39] <mister_roboto> jrattner1: yes but it's a PITA to have to start from a reboot every time. I'd really REALLY like suspend working, or at least hibernate
[07:40] <mt_holden_ss> mp3 support anyone
[07:40] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[07:40] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is for codecs,  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[07:40] <Drakeson> has anybody got any success connecting to an mms:// stream with mplayer through UDP?
[07:41] <Sneaky_Bastard> titanium requires oxy-hydrogen flame and good oxygen environment to ignite
[07:41] <Fujitsu> !tell mt_holden_ss about mp3
[07:41] <Sneaky_Bastard> your scimitar won't do it
[07:41] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, ahhh, but I have a /dev/laser
[07:42] <dosage> hello
[07:42] <dosage> i'm new to ubuntu
[07:42] <Sneaky_Bastard> titanium, well polised makes a great mirror, too
[07:42] <dosage> but i love it.
[07:42] <Sneaky_Bastard> polished
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: a good start!
[07:42] <arnducky> dd if /dev/laser of /home/Sneaky_bastard
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> if=/dev/laser you mean
[07:42] <YukiIkyuta> xP
[07:43] <arnducky> input file, yep
[07:43] <mt_holden_ss> anyone know how to make firefox my default explorer
[07:43] <YukiIkyuta> (with the equals, that is)
[07:45] <YukiIkyuta> mt_holden_ss:  that's a very vague question; how do you mean?
[07:45] <mt_holden_ss> dont worry
[07:45] <mt_holden_ss> i fixed it
[07:45] <YukiIkyuta> Good..
[07:45] <arnducky> mt_holden_ss, your default web browser, you mean?  (Internet) Explorer is the name of  a particular HTML browser program that a certain proprietary-infidel operating system devoloper/shaitanic  software vendor (SSV) ripped off from NCSA Mosaic.
[07:46] <mt_holden_ss> fire fox
[07:46] <mt_holden_ss> i wanted fire fox as my default but fixed it
[07:46] <Sneaky_Bastard> Internet Exploder, ah ys.
[07:46] <musik> HELP! HELP!
[07:46] <Sneaky_Bastard> arnducky: do you know the rest of that story ?
[07:46] <musik> im not able to boot into windows!
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> musik: run to the fire brigade!
[07:46] <Xenguy> musik: die
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> How so?
[07:46] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, may St. Linus of .FI forfend!
[07:46] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: don't talk like that.
[07:47] <Madpilot> musik: congratulations
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: hmm?
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> vendor contracted with micro$haft to do the job for "a percentage of the sales price of each copy of Explorer"
[07:47] <SpAwN> sweet i got my wireless up :D
[07:47] <mt_holden_ss> musik join #partition
[07:47] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: don't just tell them to die!
[07:47] <Fujitsu> SpAwN: Good!
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> Micro$haft then bundled it *for free* with Win-Blows 98
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: oh
[07:47] <Sneaky_Bastard> the sales price being USD $0, the vendor got shafted
[07:47] <SpAwN> yea thats a start for tonight
[07:47] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, Winblows 95 USB, wasn't it?
[07:47] <SpAwN> now i just need my sound
[07:47] <musik> i reinstalled win98, then reinstalled grub....now i can boot into kubuntu fine...but when i select windows.........it says loading stage2....then comes back to the grub menu!
[07:47] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: aren't we all going to eventually
[07:48] <YukiIkyuta> Xenguy: true, but still.
[07:48] <Fujitsu> We love IE!
[07:48] <YukiIkyuta> musik: is your menu.lst file set up right?
[07:48] <Xenguy> YukiIkyuta: hehe
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> I was there when Windows 98 refused to install Netscape 7.0
[07:48] <arnducky> Unless yoiu're just talking about the Microsoft's criminal anti-trust convictions.
[07:48] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: no I don't ;)
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> popping up a a nasty (false) error message to imply that Netscape installer was crap
[07:48] <musik> how do i know if menu.lst is ok?
[07:48] <allison> muSik > I have a dual boot...just don't have any reasons to get back to windows anymore.... :)
[07:48] <Fujitsu> Let us embrace IE, and thank the Wine project for enabling us to run such great, standards-compliant software in multiple operating systems!
[07:48] <Sneaky_Bastard> and there when some hackers found the sabotage code in Kernel.DLL
[07:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> and Netscape had a 7.01 fix about 2 weeks later that installed perfectly
[07:49] <BotBuilder> Fujitsu:  - lol
[07:49] <YukiIkyuta> musik: you need to look at your grub configuration, you'll find that file in /boot/grub
[07:49] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, I was a shill of the Evil Empire when Pentium rolled out.  I actually *sold* WIn98 OEM licenses with PC hardware.
[07:49] <SpAwN> can anyone help me try and figure out why i have no sound?
[07:49] <Madpilot> Fujitsu: whatever you're smoking, I want some ;)
[07:49] <Sneaky_Bastard> the only thing differnt was it didn't match KERNEL.DLL's sig scan
[07:49] <oskude> people who do multibooting without knowing about partitions and MBR should google first...
[07:49] <musik> is this ok?
[07:49] <musik> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[07:49] <musik> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

[07:49] <oskude> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:50] <musik> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
[07:50] <musik> <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />

[07:50] <Xenguy> musik: bye
[07:50] <deFrysk> musik, you are flooding
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> musik: that's not the...

[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> Ooh dear.
[07:50] <Xenguy> musik: rhymes with

[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> What file is he pasting?!
[07:50] <thewayofzen> Help!?  rebooted my system.  it did a file check and it said  5.1% non-contiguous.  is this bad.. how do i get it to BE contiguous.. what do i need to know here
[07:50] <musik> title		Windows
[07:50] <musik> root		(hd0,0)
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> Ah.
[07:50] <Sneaky_Bastard> sabotage of Netscape installer was just one of 670+ points in the U.S. DOJ versus Microsoft Findings of FAct
[07:50] <musik> savedefault
[07:50] <BotBuilder> He's going so slow he won't be kicked lol
[07:50] <musik> makeactive
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: no, it's fine.
[07:50] <musik> chainloader	+1</pre></body>

[07:50] <musik> sorry
[07:50] <musik> im sorry plz
[07:50] <musik> im pasting menu.lst part of it
[07:50] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, speaking of M$ signature scans... know how to force WinDOH!s 2K to ignore one?
[07:50] <YukiIkyuta> You're also pasting a lot of HTML.
[07:50] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:50] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  do i need to do anything to it?  whats it mean?
[07:50] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:50] <musik> plz help me how to get to windows.my bro needs it
[07:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> Arnducky: what are you talking about ?
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: that's the equivalent of saying how many files are fragmented in a filesystem.

[07:51] <Sneaky_Bastard> what sig scans ?
[07:51] <dosage> ubuntu is good os
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> You needn't do anything at all.
[07:51] <Fujitsu> musik: What?
[07:51] <Madpilot> Nobody ever needs Windows. MS just tells them they do.
[07:51] <mt_holden_ss> musik i think u dont have windows, u may have formatted it
[07:51] <Fujitsu> Madpilot: Yes.
[07:51] <dosage> i donated $200
[07:51] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  how do i defragment it then?
[07:51] <dosage> to Ubuntu
[07:51] <Xenguy> thewayofzen: that's fine, no worries
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: well done!
[07:51] <dosage> I like it alot
[07:51] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: you don't! You don't need to, either.
[07:51] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, #ubuntu-offtopic or /MSG ?
[07:51] <dosage> I'm an ex-windows user
[07:51] <dosage> getting into linux
[07:51] <Xenguy> dosage: aren't we all :-)
[07:51] <dosage> but I only know shells
[07:51] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  so it will just keep getting worse or that check fixes it?
[07:51] <musik> no no windows is there......i can see its files in kubuntu..
[07:51] <dosage> and I haven't yet figured out how to
[07:51] <dosage> extract - install files.
[07:52] <Fujitsu> dosage: What?
[07:52] <SpAwN> how can i configure my sound card?
[07:52] <dosage> like how to BitchX on this computer
[07:52] <oskude> !multiboot
[07:52] <ubotu> I don't know, oskude
[07:52] <dosage> how do I put BitchX on here?
[07:52] <oskude> !dualboot
[07:52] <ubotu> I guess dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: it won't get worse, if it does, things will rearrange themselves.
[07:52] <Xenguy> dosage: use 'irssi' instead
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> Everyone's Linux says that on startup.
[07:52] <dosage> BitchX > irssi
[07:52] <thewayofzen> YukiIkyuta,  awesome. thanks so much for taking the time to help me!
[07:52] <musik> i reinstalled win98, then reinstalled grub....now i can boot into kubuntu fine...but when i select windows.........it says loading stage2....then comes back to the grub menu!
[07:52] <thewayofzen> Xenguy, you too :)
[07:52] <Xenguy> dosage: BX sucks :-)
[07:52] <robotgeek> dosage: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[07:52] <YukiIkyuta> thewayofzen: no problem. ^^
[07:52] <oskude> musik, your problem is asked and answered like 1000times, so pleas do google...
[07:52] <Madpilot> dosage: bitchx is in the repos
[07:53] <robotgeek> Xenguy: let him use bitchX, if he wants to :)
[07:53] <dosage> ok look
[07:53] <dosage> once I have BitchX
[07:53] <dosage> the .tar.gz
[07:53] <dosage> how do I extract it and use it?
[07:53] <oskude> musik, your grub settings are propably targeting to the wrong partition....
[07:53] <BotBuilder> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=534741#post534741
[07:53] <SpAwN> anyone know some good site that might help out my no soun dproblem?
[07:53] <Xenguy> BX bleeds...
[07:53] <arnducky> dosage: the withdrawals (including the hallucinations, convulsions, sweats, ans delerium tremens) get better after time.  Pretty soon you will no longer wake up screaming until you see a Blue Screen of DBeath
[07:53] <YukiIkyuta> dosage: you probably have there a source code.
[07:53] <robotgeek> dosage: you don't need to compile it, it's in the repos
[07:53] <BotBuilder> Probably shouldn't push it on irc but eh
[07:53] <BotBuilder> I'm eager
[07:53] <Madpilot> dosage: you don't need the tar.gz
[07:53] <musik> oskude: so how do i fix it plz say.....
[07:53] <dosage> what do I need
[07:54] <Xenguy> dosage: irssi
[07:54] <Xenguy> :P
[07:54] <dosage> I mean
[07:54] <dosage> xchat is good
[07:54] <Madpilot> dosage: start Synaptic, search for bitchx, install it
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell dosage about synaptic
[07:54] <dosage> where do i find synaptic
[07:54] <oskude> musik, first you could post your /boot/grub/menu.lst file in pastebin...
[07:54] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell dosage about repos
[07:54] <oskude> !pastebin
[07:54] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[07:54] <arnducky> sudo -v sudo sh ;passwd
[07:54] <Xenguy> !tel dosage about clue
[07:54] <ubotu> No idea, Xenguy
[07:54] <Xenguy> heheh
[07:54] <Madpilot> Xenguy: no need to be rude....
[07:54] <robotgeek> dosage: you'll need to enable the universe repository
[07:55] <dosage> nvm
[07:55] <Xenguy> Madpilot: no rudeness implied, natch =)
[07:55] <dosage> i'm using the live cd
[07:55] <dosage> i haven't installed it yet
[07:55] <dosage> because i dont want to lose all my music/movies
[07:55] <dosage> on my xp
[07:56] <arnducky> dosage why would you lose all your media (that you no doubt acquired proper licenses for)?
[07:56] <SpAwN> when i try to play a mp3 with xmms it says :Please check that the sound card is configured, that the output plugin is selected, and no other probgram is blocking thesoundcard
[07:56] <dosage> because i'm 2leet2buy
[07:56] <ClayG> what is a good program <gui>that will grab whole webpages off the net to view offline?
[07:56] <oskude> SpAwN, go to the preferences of xmms and configure other alsa devices...
[07:56] <BotBuilder> there is such a thing as dvd backup dosage
[07:56] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: there's a good one which isn't GUI..
[07:56] <SpAwN> i just installed ubuntu...so i dont know my way around it
[07:57] <arnducky> dosage, what do you mean?  Were you replying to me?
[07:57] <ClayG> what is it YukiIkyuta
[07:57] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: don't assume that you should only use a GUI program.
[07:57] <oskude> SpAwN, do you hear the ubuntu start sound ?
[07:57] <YukiIkyuta> wget will do it for you.
[07:57] <SpAwN> no
[07:57] <SpAwN> i dont think i have any sound
[07:57] <SpAwN> i havent heard a peep
[07:57] <oskude> SpAwN, thats bad...
[07:57] <ClayG> do you know the syntax to grab a whole site?
[07:57] <SpAwN> bah!
[07:58] <SpAwN> i used mandriva b4..it found my sound card fine
[07:58] <SpAwN> i tried centos earlier and it didnt find it
[07:58] <SpAwN> now im trying ubuntu and it didnt find it
[07:58] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: sure, but what site is it?
[07:58] <YukiIkyuta> Many people won't appreciate you doing that to them.
[07:58] <oskude> SpAwN, what is your sound card ? can you see it in "lspci" ?
[07:58] <BotBuilder> clayg - there's a firefox extension that does it i believe
[07:58] <zcat[1] > httrack !!
[07:59] <SpAwN> let me chek....i did it earlier and i found it
[07:59] <BotBuilder> The command line app is prolly better tho
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> ClayG: wget -r http://sitename.com/
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> Make sure you're in a new directory.
[07:59] <BotBuilder> yeah that's the one
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> 'cause it'll put everything everywhere.
[07:59] <zcat[1] > httrack does the best job of anything I've tried
[07:59] <ClayG> nice
[07:59] <ClayG> Thanks alot
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> You may have to specify --level=inf
[07:59] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH 6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[07:59] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridg e (rev 03)
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> -k is also nice.
[07:59] <SpAwN> ^^ there she is
[07:59] <YukiIkyuta> Infact! -m will do it!
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> wget -m http://sitename.com/     -- that's the `mirror` option
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> Possibly adding -k
[08:00] <ClayG> cool
[08:00] <ClayG> I'm doing that to ubuntu.org
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> ..
[08:00] <ClayG> lol just kidding
[08:00] <YukiIkyuta> XD
[08:00] <ClayG> no this is a small site I just want to grab to view later
[08:01] <YukiIkyuta> Fair enough.
[08:01] <oskude> SpAwN, well, atleast its regonized... have you searched ubuntuforums.org or wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <YukiIkyuta> -m -k should be fine.
[08:01] <ClayG> What does the mirror option do?
[08:01] <SpAwN> no i jsut installed ubuntu like a hour ago
[08:01] <zcat[1] > wget -m http://wikipedia.org
[08:01] <SpAwN> what should i look for
[08:01] <SpAwN> any ideas?
[08:01] <oskude> SpAwN, intel sound
[08:01] <ClayG> I mean I'm running the first -r command
[08:01] <SpAwN> oskude, thanks bro
[08:01] <Xenguy> !clue
[08:01] <ubotu> clue is, like, the ability to just 'get it' without unnecessary extended explanation...
[08:02] <ClayG> this looks to be provided a copy of what the sitehas
[08:02] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : that'd be a good way to stress-test your computer... ;)
[08:02] <oskude> SpAwN, but i think the problems is only to know the right module and just loading it
[08:02] <zcat[1] > actually httrack would be better, it does multiple connections in parallel. I don't think wget does.
[08:02] <SpAwN> u think thats it a simple modprobe?
[08:02] <Fujitsu> httrack is good.
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, in best case :)
[08:03] <SpAwN> i hope :D
[08:03] <arnducky> Sneaky_Bastard, ??
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, btw
[08:03] <viviersf> !skype
[08:03] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:03] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have any cards in System > Preferences > Sound ?
[08:03] <KiNeTiX> question, if i wanted to make my linux swat partition larger, would i be able to resize, or would i have to re install?
[08:03] <Fujitsu> Got to love ubotu
[08:03] <zcat[1] > skype blows.. take a look at gizmoproject
[08:03] <SpAwN> let me checl
[08:03] <KiNeTiX> question, if i wanted to make my linux swat partition larger, would i be able to resize, or would i have to re install?
[08:04] <SpAwN> yes i see one
[08:04] <frogzoo> SpAwN: maybe add multiverse repo?
[08:04] <SpAwN> intel ich6
[08:04] <oskude> SpAwN, then try if you hear the sounds in "sound events" tab
[08:04] <frogzoo> ping
[08:04] <Fujitsu> ponmg
[08:04] <Xenguy> pong
[08:04] <YukiIkyuta> pong!
[08:04] <SpAwN> no i hear no sound
[08:05] <ardchoille> I switched from Fedora to Ubuntu and Fedora's "shelf life" is 6 to 8 months. How often does a new release of Ubuntu come out?
[08:05] <oskude> SpAwN, and ofcourse look that the faders are not down/muted in volume control
[08:05] <SpAwN> how do i add multivers repo?
[08:05] <Xenguy> 6 months
[08:05] <oskude> !repos
[08:05] <ubotu> repos is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:05] <Xenguy> wtf?
[08:05] <Fujitsu> I agree. WTF?
[08:05] <Myrtti> spammers banned prolly
[08:05] <Madpilot> huh?
[08:05] <SpAwN> volume says its up all the way in the little speaker in the bottom right
[08:05] <YukiIkyuta> All the normal bans.
[08:05] <YukiIkyuta> They were just making sure that they're set.
[08:05] <ardchoille> geez, which button did I push? lol
[08:05] <Fujitsu> Why are they banning a _dynamic_ IP?
[08:06] <Myrtti> anyway
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> Well, those were set ages ago.
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> So people might've set them just to ban someone once so they get th epoint.
[08:06] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have ONLY the intel card in Sound preferences ?
[08:06] <YukiIkyuta> Then forget to unban them.
[08:06] <SpAwN> yes
[08:06] <SpAwN> only that one
[08:06] <oskude> SpAwN, ok, hmmm
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> no sound spawn?
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> er, me too pal
[08:06] <SpAwN> no KiNeTiX
[08:06] <zcat[1] > I'm gonna reboot and see if I can get nvidia glx working
[08:06] <SpAwN> i feel ya then
[08:06] <SpAwN> ;)
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> :(
[08:06] <KiNeTiX> i cant listen to my bass drive dnb stream
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> anmd i cant install XMMS
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> ! grr
[08:07] <ubotu> No idea, KiNeTiX
[08:07] <SpAwN> lol at least u got that
[08:07] <SpAwN> all i got is the puter beeps
[08:07] <oskude> SpAwN, sry that i cant really help (that was why i changed from debian to ubuntu, my sound was autoconfigured :)
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> got what? I got no sound homie
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> dont do me no good
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> have no idea how to install XMMS.
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> or even AIM.
[08:07] <Fujitsu> KiNeTiX: Gaim handles AIM.
[08:07] <Xenguy> !enter
[08:07] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:07] <SpAwN> yea gaim is great
[08:07] <KiNeTiX> i know, i wanted to install AIM though
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> so that i could learn how to install apps
[08:08] <frogzo1> !restricted
[08:08] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:08] <SpAwN> well what are the chanced of me getting the sound to work....i have a pretty new computer and my sound card DOES work?
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> so like i had asked, and got no reply, could i resize my swat partitio?
[08:08] <snausages> Xenguy: i think that went unnoticed
[08:08] <KiNeTiX> or no?
[08:08] <Xenguy> snausages: we try :-)
[08:08] <snausages> :D
[08:09] <KiNeTiX> okay, question why if im logged in as a username, and im under admin how come i cant delete folders?
[08:10] <DonPachi> Spawn did you try switching between OSS/ESD/ALSA under <system><multimedia system selector>?
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i think you could do that. but i never (would) done that...
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i think you could do that. but i never (would) done that... (swap resize)
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> resize swat?
[08:10] <SpAwN> DonPachi, no
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> ahh..
[08:10] <DonPachi> give that a shot, fixed mine.
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> yeah, you see i only haev it set to 500mb
[08:10] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: are you sudo'd to 'root' ?
[08:10] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: you need to use sudo if you want to delete stuff that's in the root partition
[08:10] <Technicianxp> Hi.  I'm a bit worried about dual-booting Ubuntu 5.10 with Windows XP
[08:10] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: what command are you using?
[08:10] <Technicianxp> Would it be safe?
[08:10] <oskude> KiNeTiX, and how much RAM do you have ?
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> its on my desktop and i cant del it
[08:10] <KiNeTiX> erm, 512mb/s
[08:10] <BotBuilder> Technie - yeah
[08:10] <Madpilot> !tell Technicianxp about dualboot
[08:10] <BotBuilder> I've done it twice
[08:11] <oskude> KiNeTiX, and you have problems ?
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> gah so many ?'s!
[08:11] <YukiIkyuta> Technicianxp: it would be ridiculously safe.
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> one by one. lol
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> what am i senator.
[08:11] <BotBuilder> although Hardware never really worked out, windows Xp was always fine
[08:11] <oskude> KiNeTiX, i mean problems not having enough RAM/swap ?
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> ah i meant the partitn itself
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> th ext 3
[08:11] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: please stop using your ENTER key as punctuation. Thanks...
[08:11] <BotBuilder> lol
[08:11] <KiNeTiX> not swat part, EXT part, i oculd resize taht, right?
[08:12] <oskude> KiNeTiX, atleast in theory, yes :)
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> KiNeTiX: it depends if you used LVM or not.
[08:12] <KiNeTiX> LVM?
[08:12] <Technicianxp> Yeah I was just a bit worried because a previous Mandrake 10 install ended up having me reinstall everything
[08:12] <Technicianxp> But thanks for the help
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> Linux Volume Management..
[08:12] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: logical volume management
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> logical*!!
[08:12] <snausages> YukiIkyuta: you're disqualified, kthx
[08:12] <KiNeTiX> er-- i dont recall using LVM. so i can't? or did i.
[08:12] <YukiIkyuta> Damn.
[08:13] <KiNeTiX> how do i sudo user?
[08:13] <snausages> KiNeTiX: LVM can be selected when you do your initial breezy install
[08:13] <SpAwN> crap that didnt work either
[08:13] <SpAwN> i wonder what it could be
[08:13] <DonPachi> er..
[08:14] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:14] <ubotu> methinks sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:14] <Madpilot> KiNeTiX: see ubotu ^^^
[08:14] <Xenguy> KiNeTiX: you want to be root, or another regular user?
[08:14] <KiNeTiX> root
[08:14] <Xenguy> see above
[08:14] <mlambie> #lugradio
[08:14] <oskude> SpAwN, you should search the ubuntuforums.org. ive seen so many audio not working threads, that there must be a solution :)
[08:15] <quacker> Where's the 'cservice' channel?
[08:15] <SpAwN> ill have to look through them oskude
[08:16] <SpAwN> thanks for ya help
[08:16] <Ikurus> hey, I have a problem.
[08:16] <SpAwN> i appreciate it
[08:16] <SpAwN> and everyone else who put there 2 cents in
[08:16] <oskude> SpAwN, audio is mystery to me too in linux :)
[08:16] <Xenguy> Ikurus: yer too close to the Sun - watch out
[08:16] <Sneaky_Bastard> I only put in 1 cent :(
[08:16] <Ikurus> I've been  runnin Ubunu for a while now, but am still fairly new to linux, any way, I can't open anything, it says that it is starting up then just disapears :s
[08:17] <SpAwN> hehe
[08:17] <Ikurus> hehe X
[08:17] <DubbaC> is my commodore 64 - 64 bit?
[08:17] <Sneaky_Bastard> if only he had used epoxy, instead of wax
[08:17] <YukiIkyuta> DubbaC: I doubt it.
[08:17] <oskude> DubbaC, yes, if you multiply
[08:18] <TreeStump> hi
[08:18] <Xenguy> Ikurus: any particular app?
[08:18] <Ikurus> heh, a busy channel
[08:18] <Ikurus> yeas any app
[08:18] <TreeStump> does ubuntu support more than 2 cpu's?
[08:18] <Ikurus> I tried terminal, firefox and system monitor
[08:18] <oskude> Ikurus, lauch from terminal, maybe they spit some usefull error messages...
[08:18] <DubbaC> can i install ubuntu on my ti-89?
[08:18] <Ikurus> I can't open terminal :p
[08:19] <devint> can you make animated gif's with GIMP? somebody please at least answer
[08:19] <oskude> Ikurus, hmm
[08:19] <Xenguy> Ikurus: sounds odd - why would that happen?  Any error messages?
[08:19] <oskude> devint, ask google...
[08:19] <Ikurus> nope
[08:19] <Ikurus> I leave my PC on alot, and it has been on a good week now
[08:19] <WildPenguin> devint, try GIMP-GAP
[08:19] <Ikurus> and then suddenly this morning ti sarted to happen
[08:19] <snausages> Ikurus: try Alt+F2 then type in xterm
[08:20] <Xenguy> Ikurus: what was the last system change you made?
[08:20] <oskude> Ikurus, and dont say you use dapper :)
[08:20] <Ikurus> erm
[08:21] <Ikurus> nothing, btw
[08:21] <Ikurus> Well I did some moving of stuff last night
[08:21] <Madpilot> "stuff"?
[08:21] <Ikurus> but it was all in /home/
[08:21] <oskude> Ikurus, but gnome starts as usual (like the panel and stuff in it) )
[08:21] <Ikurus> but I did it in sudo nautilus
[08:22] <Xenguy> Ikurus: I bet you shot yourself in the foot :-)  Happens to the best of us :P
[08:22] <Ikurus> yeah I probably did something really silly.
[08:22] <Ikurus> oskude, it has been on a while
[08:22] <snausages> Ikurus: how did you launch your irc client ?
[08:22] <Ikurus> it was already open
[08:22] <Ikurus> I was using it fine last night
[08:23] <TreeStump> does ubuntu support more than 2 cpu's?
[08:23] <Ikurus> this morning I turn on screen, unlock it, and then hit firefox but nothing
[08:23] <snausages> Ikurus: maybe it's justa  hiccup of sorts, have you tried a reboot ?
[08:23] <Ikurus> hehe, reboot = :(
[08:23] <Ikurus> shall I just try restarting X11?
[08:23] <oskude> Ikurus, or atleast restart of X11
[08:23] <WildPenguin> TreeStump, i believe so, yes
[08:23] <Ikurus> okk
[08:24] <Ikurus> brb
[08:24] <TreeStump> ok, so Ubuntu supports all the theoretical 4 cpu's on my AMD X2?
[08:25] <spikebike> er 4?
[08:25] <spikebike> don't you mean 2?
[08:25] <jugarnatha> hi
[08:25] <jugarnatha> so I think I have a java issue.
[08:25] <Ikurus> worked
[08:25] <Ikurus> brb
[08:25] <oskude> Ikurus, nice
[08:26] <szehne> please don't flame me but what is the most stable packaging system? debian, rpm, ...
[08:26] <spikebike> define stable
[08:26] <oskude> szehne, ask google
[08:26] <jugarnatha> If I try to instant message people through some websites (myspace) I can't see what I'm typing or what is being remitted to me.
[08:26] <jugarnatha> Can anyone help?
[08:26] <andrew> I'm using gtkpod when I pull mp3 files off my iPod they have the funky names (like GZWU.mp3) Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:26] <TreeStump> no i dont mean 2
[08:26] <musik> my bro reinstalled win98, then i reinstalled grub, now i can boot into linux fine, but when i select windows it says loading stage2..then comes back to grub menu...plz help me!!
[08:27] <YukiIkyuta> andrew: it's not easy. You're not supposed to be able to pull files from it.
[08:27] <TreeStump> the X2 has a theoretical 4 cpus
[08:27] <spikebike> treestump er explain why you mean 4?
[08:27] <Madpilot> TreeStump: two CPUs, each dual core, right? nice hardware...
[08:27] <spikebike> X2's don't do dual socket
[08:27] <TreeStump> beacuse there are two cores each with hyperthreading
[08:27] <spikebike> so the max is 2
[08:27] <szehne> oskude, i was hoping for some human input, but that's alright
[08:27] <spikebike> tree nope, no hyperthreading
[08:27] <szehne> thanks anywyas
[08:27] <oskude> musik, did you post your /boot/grub/menu.lst in pastebin as i told you ?
[08:27] <jugarnatha> If I try to instant message people through some websites (myspace) I can't see what I'm typing or what is being remitted to me.
[08:27] <spikebike> AMD doesn't do hyperthreading (nor will they ever)
[08:27] <retrix> andrew: write a patch to fix it ;)
[08:27] <YukiIkyuta> spikebike: they get close. xP
[08:27] <oskude> szehne, well, this is ubuntu support, and ubuntu uses deb....
[08:27] <Myrtti> szehne: well what do you exactly mean with stable
[08:28] <TreeStump> when i had a single core AMD it said 2 cpu's on windows?
[08:28] <shekhar> hello how can i repair permissions on my boot volume, they have gone amiss since i installed kde...
[08:28] <Myrtti> packages don't crash :-)
[08:28] <musik> oskude: yes
[08:28] <musik> title		Windows
[08:28] <musik> root		(hd0,0)
[08:28] <musik> savedefault
[08:28] <musik> makeactive
[08:28] <musik> chainloader	+1
[08:28] <oskude> !pastebin
[08:28] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:28] <YukiIkyuta> musik: no!
[08:28] <szehne> i'm looking to build a distro around blackbox and other small utils
[08:28] <musik> YukiIkyuta: what to do plz help!
[08:29] <Myrtti> well apt is most intuitive one, IMO
[08:29] <oskude> musik, if you posted your file in pastebin, give me the link, ill look
[08:30] <musik> oskude: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444606
[08:30] <oskude> musik, ok, sec
[08:31] <oskude> musik, would be more usefull if you post the whole file, but looks good to me. are you SURE windows is in partition 0,0 ?
[08:31] <SpAwN> hmm i might have found a solution
[08:31] <musik> oskude: yes windows is on hda, hda1 to be precise
[08:31] <frogzo1> musik: just checking - you do have just one disk that is IDE, yes?
[08:31] <SpAwN> it says to uninstall polypaudio  and install esound...so i opened synaptic and tried to but there is no packages
[08:31] <oskude> musik, hmm
[08:31] <musik> i have 2 disks hda & hdb
[08:32] <frogzo1> musik: did you "grub-install /dev/hda"   ?
[08:32] <oskude> musik, and youre using ubuntu breezy ?
[08:32] <SpAwN> wait esound is already installed
[08:32] <SpAwN> hmm
[08:32] <SpAwN> nm there goes that idea
[08:33] <shekhar> hello can someone help me, i need to repair permissions on my boot volume
[08:33] <musik> yes i did grub-install /dev/hda...im on hoary
[08:34] <oskude> musik, congratulations, you maybe found a bug in hoary :) (that propably wont be fixed;)
[08:34] <frogzo1> musik: just checking - these are IDE drives, not SATA?
[08:34] <oskude> musik, i would install breezy
[08:34] <frogzo1> c'mon peeps - hoary boots doze on hda1 no probs - this is a simple problem
[08:35] <oskude> frogzo1, i hope too
[08:35] <frogzo1> musik: pastebin your menu.lst
[08:35] <oskude> musik, the WHOLE menu.lst :)
[08:35] <oskude> frogzo1, a part is here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444606
[08:35] <musik> IDE
[08:35] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, in my experience the most common cause is lack of permissions to the device - you are in the group 'audio'?
[08:35] <SpAwN> let me check
[08:36] <henk> hi i'm looking for a way to print all the lines of stdin execpt the last one (the inverse of tail -n1)
[08:36] <shekhar> hello can someone help me repair permissions on my boot partition, they have been changed since i installed kde
[08:36] <musik> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444625
[08:36] <oskude> shekhar, "chmod" is a prog to change permissions...
[08:36] <SpAwN> no
[08:37] <shekhar> oskude:  how do i restore the permissions i had before?
[08:37] <SpAwN> wait
[08:37] <frogzo1> musik: did you set the bootable flag for hda1 with fdisk?
[08:37] <oskude> shekhar, dunno, sry
[08:37] <shad0w1e> is there any disk checker utility to check a FAT32 partition?
[08:37] <SpAwN> yes..im not a user on audio but im the only one in group members
[08:37] <musik> frogzo1: yes of course......it was all perfect....
[08:38] <frogzo1> musik: obviously not perfect :D
[08:38] <SpAwN> and under settings for my user is says im able to use audio
[08:38] <Nelo> Hello, how do i keep the terminal window size permanently?
[08:39] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, hmm... another idea gone
[08:39] <Beleys>  Poy
[08:39] <frogzo1> sudo fdisk /dev/hda -l should give something like /dev/hda1   *           1        1342    10779583+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:39] <frogzo1>
[08:39] <boo> hey, i installed wine from the synaptic package thing but i dont see it in any of the Applications menu. can anyone help me find where/how to launch it?
[08:39] <shad0w1e> Nelo: Settings > Save as default
[08:39] <SpAwN> hehe i know ive been through a few tonight
[08:39] <frogzo1> boo: for starters, maybe install xwine now?
[08:39] <mrkoje> OpenVpn is GREAT!
[08:39] <boo> xwine is installed too
[08:40] <musik> so wont i be able to fix my grub problem:(?
[08:40] <mrkoje> the best damn vpn (at least easiest) solution I could find
[08:40] <frogzo1> boo: well now you need to install an OS into wine :)
[08:40] <YukiIkyuta> frogzo1: install an OS.. !?!
[08:40] <Nelo> shad0w1e is that in the profile?
[08:40] <boo> eh, lol how do i go about doing that
[08:40] <frogzo1> musik: anything funny going on in the bios settings?
[08:40] <frogzo1> boo google knows everything :)
[08:40] <musik> frogzo1: i changed nothing in the bios:(
[08:41] <frogzo1> musik: maybe just for starters, disable the 2nd drive, reinstall grub & see what happens
[08:41] <musik> ok lets see
[08:41] <musik> im logging out....plz pray that it works!!!!!
[08:42] <bunnynhb> Hello ya'll.
[08:42] <YukiIkyuta> Hi.
[08:42] <oskude> SpAwN, did that adding you to the audio group help ?
[08:42] <shekhar> can someone help me
[08:42] <YukiIkyuta> shekhar: ask your question first.
[08:42] <oskude> shekhar, and we will try :)
[08:43] <shekhar> YukiIkyuta:  often i do but no one responds ;) my question is how do i repair permissions on my boot partition
[08:43] <bunnynhb> Does Ubuntu 5.10 automatically install the modem drivers for Smartlink sl1900 PCI modem?
[08:43] <SpAwN> i was in the members part...i wasnt in the user part
[08:44] <shekhar> YukiIkyuta:  i installed kde on ubuntu and it has buggered a lot of things including that most folders in my root directory are now locked to me
[08:44] <frogzo1> shekhar: what's the problem?
[08:44] <shekhar> frogzo1:  see above
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> KDE?
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Weird.
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Well ..
[08:44] <oskude> SpAwN, ? does your audio work ?
[08:44] <YukiIkyuta> Just open a terminal, `sudo -s' should give you a root shell.
[08:44] <SpAwN> i just found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HdaIntelSoundHowto?highlight=%28intel%29%7C%28hda%29
[08:44] <boo> hah  i dont understand anything this is saying http://www.faqs.org/faqs/windows-emulation/wine-faq/   its only my second day on linux :P
[08:44] <frogzo1> shekhar: did you have the meta package gnome-desktop installed before upgrading?
[08:44] <SpAwN> but im not 100 sure i have a intel hda or w/e card
[08:45] <SpAwN> oskude, not yet
[08:45] <YukiIkyuta> boo: wine should work as is.
[08:45] <WebLOCH> hood morning all
[08:45] <shekhar> frogzo1: you mean gnome-desktop-environment?
[08:45] <boo> i dont know how to get it to work
[08:45] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu onto a USB pen drive?
[08:45] <YukiIkyuta> boo: what've you installed?
[08:45] <frogzo1> !upgrade
[08:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:46] <boo> xwine and wine as packages in synaptic package manager
[08:46] <frogzo1> shekhar: my bad - these pkgs "ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop"
[08:46] <YukiIkyuta> Try typing `xwine' at a prompt.
[08:46] <shekhar> frogzo1:  yes, but i uninstalled them when i couldn't get back into gnome
[08:47] <TreeStump> hi
[08:47] <frogzo1> !kde
[08:47] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:47] <oskude> SpAwN, do you have any "snd*" modules loaded (lsmod) ?
[08:47] <shekhar> frogzo1:  actually i still have ubuntu-base
[08:47] <TreeStump> how do i log in as root on ubuntu?
[08:47] <YukiIkyuta> !tell TreeStump about root
[08:47] <oskude> TreeStump, try "sudo su -"
[08:48] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: actually, the reccommended way is `sudo -s'
[08:48] <frogzo1> TreeStump: the Ubuntu way (TM) is to do everything with sudo
[08:48] <SpAwN> yes i do oskude
[08:48] <oskude> YukiIkyuta, roger. thnx
[08:48] <YukiIkyuta> ^^
[08:48] <shekhar> frogzo1:  how can i repair permissions that were changed with the kde install?
[08:49] <frogzo1> shekhar: methinks your setup is maybe broken worse than just a permission problem might fix - I'd do a reinstall of the gnome environment
[08:49] <SpAwN> 9 diff ones
[08:49] <boo> haha yuki that was so simple
[08:49] <SpAwN> when i use lsmod | grep snd
[08:49] <oskude> shekhar, could you say exactly what permission is not so as it was ?
[08:50] <YukiIkyuta> boo: neat.
[08:50] <shekhar> frogzo1:  well my system was worse off yesterday than now ;)
[08:50] <boo> do most programs launch like that?
[08:50] <shekhar> oskude:  /usr /bin directories are locked now
[08:50] <boo> and how do i get a shortcut
[08:50] <YukiIkyuta> boo: like what ..?
[08:50] <oskude> shekhar, what do you mean by locked ?
[08:51] <shekhar> oskude:  meaning i cannot write to them
[08:51] <boo> like...under the application window, how can i launch it from there
[08:51] <oskude> shekhar, thats normal
[08:51] <frogzo1> shekhar: only root can write /usr/bin
[08:51] <shekhar> oskude frogzo1: so where do i install new apps (i.e. firefox 1.5)?
[08:52] <mp3guy> in breezy, when i right click on the desktop i can no longer choose terminal, where is this gone?
[08:52] <oskude> shekhar, are you doint it manually ?
[08:52] <YukiIkyuta> shekhar: into that directory, as root.
[08:52] <frogzo1> shekhar: you don't worry about it - just "sudo apt-get install" & let the package manager figure it out
[08:52] <shekhar> frogzo1:  firefox 1.5 is not in the breezy repositories
[08:53] <oskude> shekhar, just curious, what do you NEED from 1.5 thats not in breezys version ?
[08:53] <frogzo1> shekhar: then, yes, you'll need to "sudo cp" or similiar
[08:53] <TreeStump> hmm i cant seem to install the NVIDIA display drivers on Ubuntu
[08:53] <shekhar> oskude:  i downloaded firefox 1.5 and want to know where to put it, i can't run the starup script if it's in usr/lib/
[08:53] <frogzo1> !tell TreeStump about nvidia
[08:53] <shekhar> oskude:  i want to try 1.5
[08:53] <boo> are there any alternatives to wine?
[08:53] <YukiIkyuta> oskude: incidentally, Breezy's version has a large memory hole.
[08:53] <WildPenguin> mp3guy, install nautilus-open-terminal
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, then ask google and ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <shekhar> oskude:  it works, just that i don't know where to put the firefox directory in my file system
[08:54] <SpAwN> hmm  no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH synap says i have gcc installed? what else do i need to be able to compile and configure things?
[08:54] <frogzo1> boo you don't need an alternative - you just need to read the wine howtos
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> (so I hear)
[08:54] <shekhar> oskude:  i looked
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, where ever you want :)
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: you need gcc, g++, typically.
[08:54] <SpAwN> k
[08:54] <oskude> shekhar, but you can as well run it from your home dir,,,
[08:54] <boo> will wine run games?
[08:54] <rob1> SpAwN, install the build-essential package
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> boo: some.
[08:54] <WildPenguin> SpAwN, install build-essentials, it will get what is needed ;)
[08:54] <boo> a list anywhere?
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> Possibly.
[08:54] <YukiIkyuta> Google it?
[08:55] <rob1> Seveas, dragon or duck?
[08:55] <SpAwN> nice
[08:55] <rooted_newbie> didnt take long
[08:55] <shekhar> oskude:  but if i run firefox in a terminal it still opens the older version
[08:55] <TreeStump> is this some form of autoresponder im talking to?
[08:55] <Seveas> rob1, dragin
[08:55] <frogzo1> boo wine runs most games, but not as quickly as native doze :(
[08:55] <frogzo1> !tell TreeStump about ubotu
[08:55] <oskude> shekhar, then you should learn to use terminal first ;) go to the dir where the new firefox is and run "./firefox"
[08:56] <SpAwN> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist?
[08:56] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: whatever you're installing; it needs the kernel's source.
[08:56] <SpAwN> is it in a diff place i can set with a option?..
[08:56] <rob1> whats with  DapperDrake (n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas)?
[08:56] <rooted_newbie> cloop mbr 0wnz me
[08:56] <Seveas> rob1, it's an irssi running in a screen at my server
[08:57] <rooted_newbie> cannot get rid of it
[08:57] <Seveas> I like to be able to grep through logs :)
[08:57] <rob1> fair enough
[08:57] <rooted_newbie> any advice ?
[08:57] <SpAwN> do i need kernel-package?
[08:57] <feugan3333> Hi all. I've just downloaded the new firefox. I want it to run instead of the old version. I just need to insert the directory where it it located in to the begining of my path. Where is the correct place to do this? .bashrc?
[08:57] <YukiIkyuta> I must make my dinner now ...
[08:57] <SpAwN> or what do i need so i can use the kernel source...or w/e it needs to do with it
[08:58] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: download the correct kernel-source-* package.
[08:58] <YukiIkyuta> SpAwN: type uname -a, copy what it says here.
[08:58] <oskude> SpAwN, when compiling stuff, you need to read the readme/install files and install all (*-dev) packages of the stuff that are written as "required/depends" in there
[08:58] <SpAwN> allright
[08:59] <bunnynhb> Aanyone here worked with modems?
[08:59] <shekhar> oskude:  like i said, that works, but how do i get 1.5 to run as the default firefox on my system?
[08:59] <Madpilot> feugan3333: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595
[08:59] <Madpilot> feugan3333: short version: FF 1.5 is likely to break stuff
[09:00] <boo> how do i get a launcher into the apps menu?
[09:00] <oskude> shekhar, you could rename(or whatever) the old firefox and make a symbolic link to your 1.5 instead
[09:00] <rob1> heh, its funny how every time a new ff comes out everyone asks how to install it
[09:00] <Seveas> oskude, and by that make a lot of things bork...
[09:00] <Madpilot> rob1: and then complains when it breaks their system...
[09:01] <rob1> Madpilot, yep
[09:01] <Seveas> it's so stupid, the new FF is not that much different
[09:01] <oskude> Seveas, well, he wanted it so :)
[09:01] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: external modems?
[09:01] <rob1> whats the attraction to having to run the very latest ff anyway?
[09:02] <frogzo1> beats me - when all the plugins work for 1.07 makes no sense
[09:02] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: Internal- Smartlink SL1900 PCI. I cannot use an anolog modem here, Just a digital.
[09:02] <feugan3333> Madpilot: I'm not trying to create/use a package. I'm just running the new firefox from a directory in my home directory. If I want to use whatever will be broken I'll use the old version.
[09:02] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: what's your modem problem?
[09:03] <oskude> Seveas, if you mean my method brakes his system, please tell him a better one...
[09:03] <WebLOCH> Anyone here run Breezy on a USB pen drive?  Im looking for feedback on the performance hit ?
[09:03] <feugan3333> rob1: I did not ask how to install it. I provides a binary. I just asked how to insert that directory into my path.
[09:03] <Seveas> oskude, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[09:04] <TreeStump> what language was ubotu made in?
[09:04] <Seveas> and make sure /usr/local/bin is in the $PATH before /usr/bin
[09:04] <Seveas> TreeStump, australian
[09:04] <rob1> feugan3333, I'm not stopping you, it will be out in the repos soon enough though
[09:04] <cilkay> Hi. I have a Ubuntu Live CD. I've downloaded the regular installation CD to the hard disk. Is there a way to eject the Live CD so that I can pop in a blank CD to burn that other ISO image? I think Knoppix can do this but I'm not sure about Ubuntu.
[09:04] <WebLOCH> Seveas, you're quite knowledgable, do you know anything about running Breezy from a pen drive?
[09:04] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: I've done it
[09:04] <TreeStump> programming language that is
[09:04] <Seveas> WebLOCH, only that it's not officially supported :)
[09:04] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I installed breezy (5.10) and it lists that the modem is installed and I cannot find out if it's actually working.
[09:04] <oskude> Seveas, he has a binary version
[09:04] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: it's a pain in the arse
[09:05] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, could you please write your experiences on a wikipage, this gets asked often
[09:05] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: you have to hack the initrd to add a few seconds delay and force usb storage to load
[09:05] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: ping me tomorrow and I'll do it
[09:05] <Seveas> ok
[09:05] <cilkay> TreeStump: what is "ubotu"?
[09:05] <oskude> Seveas, but then again, would it be enough if the path to the new firefox is before the old (in $PATH) ?
[09:05] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[09:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:06] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, yeah ive seen some info on it, but i was wondering what the performance is like. I just got a 4gb pen drive, and the only thing i want to do is run around with ubuntu on it...
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: my X40 came sans hard drive, so I had to wait for a week or so while it arrived, so  netbooted and installed onto the usb drive
[09:06] <boo> I have a launcher for xwine on my desktop, how do i put it in my applications menu?  is there any folder similar to start menu?
[09:06] <Seveas> oskude, yes
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: it's not worth doing
[09:06] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, is it that slow?
[09:06] <oskude> oskude, roger, thnx
[09:06] <TreeStump> cilkay: Ubotu is a user
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> it's a technical fun hack
[09:06] <oskude> lol
[09:06] <oskude> Seveas, roger, thnx :)
[09:07] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, how are technical fun hacks not worth doing? *g*
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: well, yes and no, in general I have a laptop and my own desktops
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: :)
[09:07] <HrdwrBoB> so I don't need a movable ubuntu install
[09:07] <daaku> anyone know if its possible to do something like "-"*80 to print 80 dash's?
[09:07] <boo> i guess not?
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > windows
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > slackware
[09:08] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, yeah that makes sense in your case, but im a student with a part time job, both uni and workplace have awful winxp over win2k systems, I'd just like to be able to slap the pendrive in and start using a real OS
[09:08] <oskude> Seveas, another quick question, what would be the best place to make a constant change in $PATH variable ?
[09:08] <HrdwrBoB> dosage: for the most part, yes
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > solaris
[09:08] <dosage> ubuntu > redhat
[09:08] <dosage> however
[09:08] <dosage> windows 3.1 > *
[09:10] <frogzo1> daaku: perl -e 'print "-"x80" ;'   I think
[09:10] <boo> where (physically) are the launchers in the apps menu?
[09:11] <frogzo1> daaku: this works perl -e 'print "-"x80; '
[09:12] <daaku> frogzo1: i was hoping to do it without having to run an external program
[09:12] <cilkay> Anyone know how to burn a CD from an ISO image on the hard disk while using the live CD? I know how to mount the partition to get at the ISO image but I don't know how to eject the live CD while the system is running so that I can burn a CD.
[09:13] <cenopec> whats the command to mount the floppy drive?
[09:13] <frogzo1> daaku: you can do it in a loop in bash
[09:13] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I have downloaded the new modem files to reinstalland filesthat my ISP needs for me to connect - including Java.
[09:13] <oskude> cilkay, i think you need to run the livecd in ram for that, but im not sure. does the livecd have a "toram" startup flag ?
[09:13] <daaku> cilkay: i dont think thats possible with ubuntu's live cd, but DSL can be loaded in memory (which allows you to eject the cd)
[09:13] <frogzo1> cenopec: fdmount
[09:14] <cenopec> k thanks
[09:14] <cilkay> daaku: but I'd need to burn DSL first :)
[09:14] <TreeStump> !tell cilkay about ubotu
[09:14] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, is there a distro that you think is worth running from pendrive?
[09:14] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: distro is not really important
[09:14] <frogzo1> WebLOCH: ubuntu live CD :)
[09:14] <daaku> cilkay: hehe. slightly problematic
[09:14] <Nelo> Weblock puppyLinux :)
[09:14] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: ubuntu is as good/bad as any
[09:15] <cenopec> frogzol: what else do i need to include in the command
[09:15] <cenopec> ie location?
[09:15] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, but lacks the writable persistant storage i seek :p
[09:15] <cenopec> fdmount (): Must run with EUID=root
[09:15] <cilkay> daaku: I wonder if I can get DSL on a 32M USB key? Of course I have no idea if the machine with the burner can boot from a USB key.
[09:15] <cenopec> i ge that error
[09:16] <oskude> cilkay, where did you got your livecd ?
[09:16] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, and everytime i change something i will need to reburn the CD
[09:16] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: what's wrong with liveCD/USBkey
[09:16] <boo> where (physically) are the launchers in the apps menu?
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: friend
[09:16] <oskude> cilkay, and you dont have any OS in your pc ?
[09:16] <HrdwrBoB> you can use hte usb key to store your files/etc
[09:16] <TreeStump> u can get the live cd off variouss mirrors
[09:16] <WildPenguin> cenopec, 'mount /dev/fd0'
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: nope, not the one with the burner.
[09:16] <shekhar> oskude:  i fixed my problems, thanks for your help
[09:16] <cenopec> k thanks
[09:16] <cilkay> oskude: not a big deal - I can burn tomorrow at the office. Thanks all the same.
[09:17] <Madpilot> later, all
[09:17] <shekhar> oskude:  and btw, firefox 1.5 is much faster and worth playing with
[09:17] <soothsayer> hrmm.. upgrading to breezy screwed up my webserver :(
[09:17] <bunnynhb> Anyone know how to test if an installed modem is working?
[09:17] <oskude> shekhar, what did you do ?
[09:17] <TreeStump> oskude: mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu
[09:17] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, well if im going to do that, i might aswell have a usbkey that does it all right?  If its as similar as you say
[09:17] <oskude> TreeStump, ?
[09:17] <shekhar> oskude:  i just renamed the directory in /usr/lib and created a symbolic link like you said :)
[09:18] <viviersf> !java
[09:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:18] <oskude> shekhar, swt
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: USB is much slower, though USB2 is not too bad
[09:18] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, it is a USB2 stick sorry, I probably should have specified earlier
[09:18] <soothsayer> can someone attempt to connect to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/heritage ?
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> if it's USB2 and the PCs have USB2 and it's decently fast flash
[09:18] <WebLOCH> USB 2.0 hispeed
[09:18] <WebLOCH> well i believe the read/write speed is 20Mbps
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> you should be able to use it fairly well
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: come back tomorrow and I'll write you a a guide
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> I cbf atm, I'll do it when I'm at work, I'm at home and it's hot
[09:19] <TreeStump> oskdude: that is the mirror for a ubuntu live cd that u were asking about
[09:19] <oskude> TreeStump, i didnt ask such thing :)
[09:19] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, thats a very nice offer, but its not the how im after, its more the "will i get enough performance to warrant doing so" ?
[09:19] <shekhar> oskude:  swt?
[09:19] <Geeek> can anybody help me when installing ubuntu?
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: well, I think it should be fine
[09:19] <YukiIkyuta> Geeek: what's the issue?
[09:19] <cenopec> WildPenguin: when i use that command the terminal just ceases to do anything
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: but I'llnotmake any gaurauntees :
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[09:20] <zcat[1] > soothsayer: Connection refused
[09:20] <raphink> Geeek: put the CD in, click ok several times, enter a name and password and there you are
[09:20] <oskude> shekhar, sweat. i dint mention about renaming a directory...
[09:20] <soothsayer> hrmm
[09:20] <soothsayer> can you try: http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:20] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, well ill give it a go i guess, if it fails miserably, ill tell you and you'll have a benchmark to reply with from now on haha!  If it goes okay Ill let you know anyway
[09:20] <TreeStump> oskdude: "oskude where did you got your livecd ?" but doesnt matter, lol
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> WebLOCH: :D
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> cool
[09:20] <zcat[1] > same
[09:21] <soothsayer> damn
[09:21] <raphink> or is there anything wrong when you install Geeek ?
[09:21] <WildPenguin> cenopec, do you get a command prompt after it has executed?
[09:21] <soothsayer> apache must be messed up after the upgrade
[09:21] <Xlylith> Hi All, My Evolution just crashed after opening large mail. Can anyone help me, please?
[09:21] <pc22> sambagirl, hello
[09:22] <Seveas> Xlylith, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApplicationCrah
[09:22] <Seveas> Xlylith, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApplicationCrash
[09:22] <oskude> Xlylith, and you cant start it again ? or is it still "running" crashed ?
[09:22] <cenopec> no
[09:22] <WildPenguin> cenopec, nothing at all - just blank?
[09:22] <cenopec> yeah
[09:22] <tux75> hi there.
[09:22] <cenopec> and it has worked before
[09:23] <cenopec> i had to mount it before
[09:23] <tux75> i installed ubuntu on my pc, and my network won't work
[09:23] <Xlylith> oskude, everytime I opened my evolution,  it takes most of my RAM and hung
[09:23] <tux75> anybody can help me?
[09:23] <WildPenguin> cenopec, what do you get from running 'grep fd0 /etc/fstab' ?
[09:23] <quacker> tux75, what sort of network do you have?
[09:24] <oskude> Xlylith, try launching evolution from terminal and see if it spits any usefull error messages
[09:24] <oskude> Xlylith, but dont paste any multi lines here :)
[09:24] <tux75> i'm connected in a local network (eth0) with others winz computers
[09:24] <frogzo1> tux75: click on the network icon at the top right & configure eth0
[09:24] <cenopec> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:25] <quacker> (in any case, I strongy urge you to read the following man pages: man ifconfig | ifup | ifdown | /etc/network/interfaces | /etc/resolv.conf
[09:26] <quacker> tux75, did Linux find and install the hardware represented by eth0 properly?
[09:26] <WildPenguin> cenopec, hmm... that is fine. odd. do you need to use command-line, or are you able to mount from gnome?
[09:26] <Xlylith> oskude, it's magic.... everything works fine now after I strated evolution from terminal... strange?
[09:26] <tux75> well i did ifconfig eth0 down and i restart service by ifconfig eth0 up and route add..
[09:26] <netcrusher88> so does gparted regularly take >10 minutes to resize a fat32 partition?
[09:26] <tux75> but it doesn't work..
[09:26] <quacker> tux75, do you have adesktop or just CLIs?
[09:26] <oskude> Xlylith, O.o :)
[09:26] <Xlylith> oskude, oh no... it hung again
[09:26] <raphink> tux75: stopping and starting an interface might not be enough to set it up ;)
[09:27] <oskude> Xlylith, :(
[09:27] <tux75> a desktop. and now im working on slackware to connect
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !dhcp
[09:27] <ubotu> netcrusher88: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:27] <netcrusher88> oh
[09:27] <netcrusher88> hmm
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !gparted
[09:27] <ubotu> netcrusher88: Not a clue
[09:27] <netcrusher88> !parted
[09:27] <ubotu> it has been said that parted is a GNU program for creating, destroying, resizing, checking and copying partitions.  http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
[09:28] <cenopec> well i am running ubuntu, and i get an error when i try and mount from the browser
[09:28] <cenopec> so i figured i could do it from terminal
[09:28] <soothsayer> bleh.. now azureus isn't working
[09:28] <WildPenguin> cenopec, what exactly was the error?
[09:28] <quacker> tux75, do you have kde, gnome, xfce, icewm... what?
[09:28] <tux75> gnome.
[09:28] <Xlylith> oskude, (evolution:8144): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed
[09:28] <boo> where do my xchat logs go?
[09:29] <bunnynhb> Hello, How do I make sure if the modem is working in Ubuntu5.10?
[09:29] <oskude> Xlylith, dosnt sound helpfull to me, sry
[09:29] <cenopec> unable to mount volume: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[09:29] <oskude> Xlylith, try google
[09:30] <Xlylith> oskude, It seems that the message is way too large to my system (512MB RAM !!!)
[09:30] <frogzo1> cenopec: is this floppy formatted?
[09:30] <oskude> Xlylith, hmm
[09:30] <Xlylith> oskude, ok
[09:30] <cenopec> yeah
[09:30] <liquidboy> how do i change the permissions of my mounted ntfs partition?
[09:30] <cenopec> the disk has worked pleanty of times
[09:30] <boo> I have a .img file on a mounted windows partition, how can i mount it?
[09:30] <YukiIkyuta> liquidboy: you'll have to remount it.
[09:31] <cenopec> the light is on whether there is a disk in it or not
[09:31] <cenopec> if that helps
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> first umount it.
[09:31] <boo> im trying to use "mount -t iso9660 /media/hdc1/Documents and Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Burnable/Star Wars Sexogy/bizzare-starwars3.img
[09:31] <boo> " but it says only root can do that
[09:31] <frogzo1> cenopec: wayhey - i get the same problem!
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> then: mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever
[09:31] <YukiIkyuta> the `-o umask=0222' sets thepermissions correctly.
[09:31] <oskude> boo, try "sudo mount ...."
[09:32] <quacker> tux75, I'm logged into kde RN, but perhaps the network tools are in similar places -- in any case most gtked things are starable from a console if they're in your path...  Try 'looking under Gnome Panel Button' --> 'Utilities' --> 'networking'
[09:32] <WildPenguin> cenopec, yeah, i get that too - but only with some floppy disks
[09:32] <boo> it brings up the mount help file
[09:32] <YukiIkyuta> boo: that's also an incomplete command, under most circumstances.
[09:32] <liquidboy> YukiTkyuta, cheers
[09:32] <boo> what am i missing?
[09:32] <oskude> boo, and if your command looks exactly like that, i doubt that it works
[09:32] <tux75> quacker, ok, and then?
[09:32] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as oskude just said, you're not mounting that image -on- anywhere.
[09:33] <quacker> Well open it... =P
[09:33] <cenopec> how do you unmount
[09:33] <boo> oh
[09:33] <zcat[1] > boo: You're missing some ""'s or \'s and a mountpoint
[09:33] <bunnynhb> I guess a modem problemis low priority around here.
[09:33] <cenopec> command
[09:33] <YukiIkyuta> zcat[1] : that too!
[09:33] <quacker> (It'll probably invoke gksudo)
[09:33] <oskude> cenopec, umount
[09:33] <YukiIkyuta> cenopec: umount [device/path/anything]
[09:33] <IaMaBoT> command not found
[09:33] <zcat[1] > Documents\ and\ Settings
[09:33] <zcat[1] > etc..
[09:33] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: what's your modem problem?
[09:33] <Xlylith> oskude, do you know how to configure evolution from outside (i.e terminal). I want to turn off the preview. I suspect it's the problem.
[09:34] <oskude> boo, rewrite your line and use [tab]  key to complete your paths
[09:34] <frogzo1> cenopec: umount /dev/fd0
[09:34] <oskude> Xlylith, sry, never done that. i would google...
[09:34] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: bunnynhb bunnynhb bunnynhb - what's your problem!!!
[09:34] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I'm wanting to find out how to test a modem that's suppose to be installed.
[09:34] <oskude> Xlylith, but you could start with "man evolution" and see if any usefull startup flags there
[09:35] <tux75> ok, i ask now because im in slackware at the moment (ubuntu don't connect!)
[09:35] <intelikey> bunnynhb wvdial
[09:35] <cenopec> k this doesnt make any sense, why cant i mount my floppy
[09:35] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: is this an internal modem? plugged in a pci slot?
[09:35] <frogzo1> !floppy
[09:35] <ubotu> from memory, floppy is flop, flop, flop..
[09:35] <bunnynhb> Yes.
[09:35] <intelikey> bunnynhb wvdialconf  to be more specific
[09:35] <boo> it says its not a block device when i do sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/0\ GB\ Disk\ \(hdc1\)/Documents\ and\ Settings/Boo/Desktop/moviez/Burnable/Star\ Wars\ Sexogy/bizarre-starwars3.img /mnt
[09:35] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it's not one!
[09:35] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: check on the box - does it say "winmodem" - or supports ONLY windows OS
[09:36] <boo> whats a block device?
[09:36] <boo> lol
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: iso9660 wants a block device.
[09:36] <zcat[1] > boo: -o loop
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as in, a real CD ROM drive.
[09:36] <boo> oh
[09:36] <boo> i get it..i think
[09:36] <boo> is there any way to insert in terminal?
[09:36] <oskude> Xlylith, oh, i dont have any man for evolition... try "evolution --help"
[09:36] <oskude> *evolution
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> boo: as zcat[1]  said, add `-o loop'
[09:36] <YukiIkyuta> ie. sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/.........
[09:37] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I'm in microsoft os right now.
[09:37] <boo> omg
[09:37] <boo> it worked
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> boo: great!
[09:37] <boo> thats the first thing ive ever done in terminal
[09:37] <boo> woot
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> you know have the Star Wars Sexogy at your command!
[09:37] <ryan_> anybody want to help a newbie get java working?
[09:37] <bunnynhb> frogzo1:  I have to reboot to loginto linux.
[09:37] <oskude> boo, congratz :)
[09:37] <ryan_> errr java plugin for firefox
[09:37] <frogzo1> bunnynhb: most internal modems are winmodems - and they only work with windows drivers
[09:37] <YukiIkyuta> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:38] <frogzo1> !tell Ryan about java
[09:38] <oskude> sorry, im a java no-no :)
[09:38] <frogzo1> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:38] <YukiIkyuta> frogzo1: already done. xP
[09:38] <quacker> frogzo1, there is a package for running winmodems under Linux now (I just saw it while reading packages descriptions using Synaptic -- no idea if it actually works worth a drop of spit, though)
[09:38] <frogzo1> quacker: hot damn
[09:38] <boo> lolol now how to play .vob files because totem wont
[09:38] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: Smartlink has Linux drivers and Ubuntu seems to have auto installed them.
[09:39] <sword> hey
[09:39] <oskude> !dvd
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, dvd is "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[09:39] <sword> has anyone tried the new mozilla?
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> sword: which one?
[09:39] <sword> err firefox 1.5
[09:39] <intelikey> bunnynhb from the terminal in your linux system run 'wvdialconf modem' if it is not a winmodem it will detect it and give all the useful information, as well as writing a config file called 'modem'
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> there's not a build for my system that'll work.
[09:39] <YukiIkyuta> I'm considering building from source, but it's 330MiB. o_O
[09:40] <boo> !libdvdcss2
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[09:40] <intelikey> you may need to sudo that
[09:41] <ryan_> ok so when I type sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 I get this crap -> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:41] <ryan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:41] <ryan_> is only available from another source
[09:41] <ryan_> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[09:41] <bunnynhb> frogzo1: I have also downloaded 2 files and ubuntu says that's all I need to install them.
[09:41] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: have you selected universe/multiverse as sources as well?
[09:42] <ryan_> yes
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> Yes, Geeek, what's the problem?
[09:42] <boo> geeek i did it yesterday, it pretty much did everything by itself for me
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: apt-get update'd too?
[09:42] <ryan_> is this possibly because I was trying to install JRE 5.0  Update 6 earlier?
[09:42] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: it's not likely.
[09:42] <quacker> frogzo1, unless one is very poor and with no access to (real) recycled/thrown away/donated hardware, I would recommend just tossing any winmodem back in the scrap bin.
[09:43] <ryan_> how do I check if apt-get is updated?
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, done :-) I knew it :-)
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: well, you can just run it, and see what happens.
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> Just type ``apt-get update''.
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> (sudo, if need be)
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, done :-) I knew it :-)
[09:43] <Xlylith> oskude, I try gnome config editor and it worked well
[09:43] <ryan_> ok it's updating
[09:43] <Geeek> yuki can in query?
[09:43] <YukiIkyuta> sure.
[09:44] <oskude> Xlylith, nice
[09:44] <Xlylith> oskude, I turned off the preview and evolution went smooth
[09:44] <ryan_> same deal as before
[09:44] <oskude> Xlylith, well done :)
[09:44] <Xlylith> oskude, thanks for your help, bye, ubuntu is great :-))
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: very peculiar. The page doesn't say any more on the matter?
[09:45] <oskude> Xlylith, your welcome, bye :)
[09:45] <quacker> I have a pile of modems up to a Motorola Bitsurfer ISDN-U that I might be willing to donate to the right users if shipping is paid (or very cheap).
[09:45] <boo> Ok, i ran the libdvdread3 install.sh file, it ended on setting up libdvdcss2.  now that its installed, what do i do?
[09:45] <ryan_> what do you mean by the page?
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> !tell ryan_ about java
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> The page you're being linked to now.
[09:45] <quacker> boo, do actually *have* libdvdcss2 ?
[09:45] <ryan_> well I did the first step and I got the error message
[09:45] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: you're sure that multiverse is a source?
[09:46] <boo> i think so, it said the libdvdread3 folder wouldnt be tehre if i didnt
[09:46] <quacker> It's a kind of obscure package due to the Copyright Nazis.
[09:46] <intelikey> !repos
[09:46] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:46] <ryan_> i have all repositories that Synaptic will let me do
[09:46] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:47] <quacker> ryan_, Synaptic will let yo 'do' just about anything.
[09:47] <boo> HAHAHA this is so funny, im playing a single .vob file and its skipping into 4 different languages
[09:47] <ryan_> yeah i'm pretty new to linux so it'll take me a second
[09:47] <YukiIkyuta> ryan_: no problems.
[09:47] <ryan_> quacker, i meant all the repositories shown by ubuntu
[09:48] <boo> quacker, the actual dvd video files are playing, but the menu doesnt work. when i try to open the  videots.vob file, nothing happens
[09:48] <quacker> Past bedtime for me, goodnight all.
[09:48] <YukiIkyuta> Goodnight.
[09:48] <boo> bye
[09:48] <WebLOCH> HrdwrBoB, that was all academic, it would seem the pen drive was in fact a fake!
[09:48] <quacker> boo, you didn't mention libdvdnav (needed for menu functions)
[09:48] <boo> oh
[09:48] <boo> hmm
[09:49] <boo> hmm this doesnt have an install.sh file, only a fellowship.map file
[09:49] <oskude> boo, did you ask about wheres xchats chat log file ?
[09:49] <boo> and i have no idea what .maps are
[09:49] <boo> yeah
[09:50] <oskude> boo, you have to activate it first in preferences, then they will be in ".xchat2/xchatlogs/"
[09:50] <quacker> ryan_, from a 'paranoid' PoV there *may* be security issues from breezey-backports /universe, since you are no longer getting security updates from Debian and Ubuntu generally doesn't update them
[09:50] <quacker> Really the go now...
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[09:50] <ryan_>  deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[09:50] <ryan_> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/
[09:50] <oskude> that ".xchat2/xchatlogs/" being in your home folder so correctly "~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/"
[09:50] <quacker> !pastebin
[09:50] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:50] <ryan_> so backports aren't the best idea then?
[09:51] <ryan_> sorry
[09:51] <quacker> ryan_,  soemoen else will answer that -- and tech you how to use a pastebin site too I HOPE -- *poof*
[09:52] <boo> What are .map files YukiIkyuta ?
[09:52] <bunnynhb> Where is the fastest server to get j2re1.4?
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it depends, they could do anything.
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: can you pastebin some of it?
[09:53] <boo> is it an executable?
[09:53] <oskude> bunnynhb, "fastes" is related to your and the files location...
[09:53] <YukiIkyuta> boo: typically no, but I could be surprised.
[09:53] <boo> hmm.. whats the terminal command for extract?
[09:54] <raphink> extract what boo ?
[09:54] <bunnynhb> oskude: I'm connected via 56k modem. Doing this to get ubuntu on the net.
[09:54] <intelikey> !tar
[09:54] <ubotu> intelikey: I haven't a clue
[09:54] <ahoora> is it necessary to install an antivirus?
[09:54] <raphink> ahoora: you might put one, but it's not necessary
[09:54] <boo> theres a .gz file of a .map file but i cant extract it because i dont have permission
[09:54] <oskude> bunnynhb, i think most of the major download sources will deliver your max bandwith :)
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> boo: give yourself them!
[09:55] <YukiIkyuta> boo: sudo.
[09:55] <ahoora> raphink windows without antivirus and firewall has no meaning .. linux is not like that is it? i think there is not many viruses or attacks for linux?
[09:55] <ryan_> ok YukiIkyuta I did the pastebin
[09:55] <boo> ok i have sudo gunzip (path).  if i dnot specify a path, does it extract it do the same folder?
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: currect.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: I think about 10 viruses known in total in the whole linux history, most of them not dangerous.
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> boo: it doesn't `extract' it - a gz is just one compressed file.
[09:56] <intelikey> !tar
[09:56] <ubotu> somebody said tar was ,,, to extract tar archives that are gzipped/bz2zipped use 'tar -xzf <file.tgz> '  or  'tar -xjf <flie.bz2> '  respectivly.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: settings a firewall and controlling your pots is always a good thing, but having an antivirus under linux is more of a matter of protecting your windows mates
[09:56] <YukiIkyuta> intelikey: that's tar, not gz.
[09:56] <raphink> ahoora: you do not need an antivirus to protect your own linux box
[09:57] <desplesda> can anyone help me with a crashing dpkg?
[09:57] <raphink> desplesda: can you paste the output in a pastebin?
[09:57] <desplesda> i'm trying to install libode but dpkg segfaults
[09:57] <boo> sudo gunzip /usr/share/doc/libdvdnav4/examples/FELLOWSHIP.map.gz
[09:57] <boo>   will that work?
[09:57] <ahoora> raphink i am afraid i loose my internal network if i install a firewall ... i am not familiar with them
[09:57] <ahoora> i share the internet for others at home
[09:57] <raphink> ahoora: then don't ;) and that's ok
[09:58] <boo> oh
[09:58] <raphink> ahoora: adopt a good passwd policy, don't open weak server
[09:58] <boo> woot it worked
[09:58] <raphink> servers
[09:58] <YukiIkyuta> boo: yup!
[09:58] <desplesda> raphink:  http://pastebin.com/444668
[09:58] <boo> wtf
[09:58] <boo> # The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (Widescreen Theatrical Release)
[09:58] <boo> domain 8, title 1, program 1, start 0x0000, end 0x1f0a   # Introduction
[09:58] <boo> the file is a LOTR menu file?
[09:59] <boo> ....
[09:59] <YukiIkyuta> It's an example menu file, I suppose.
[09:59] <ahoora> raphink if i want to install a firewall what do you recommend?
[09:59] <desplesda> ahoora:  i quite like firestarter, but that's just me
[09:59] <raphink> ahoora: I recomment getting a router dedicated to it ;)
[10:00] <raphink> why do you need this lib desplesda ?
[10:00] <ahoora> desplesda i installed firestarter but it destroyed my internal network :|
[10:00] <ahoora> so i removed it
[10:00] <oskude> ahoora, destroyed ?
[10:01] <desplesda> raphink:  i want to play around with ogre3d's support for the ode physics lib?
[10:01] <ahoora> i mean i couldn't share the internet for others at home
[10:01] <Locke> how do i install a theme for IceWM?
[10:01] <mapleba1> greetings. (love 5.10, but couple of questions) -- trying to vpn connect via vpnc, but it's prompting for IPSec ID and secret...values I haven't needed before (as far as I know). Are there standard values for these or assigned at the cisco vpn gateway level?
[10:01] <boo> on http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/dvd/  there are 3 dvdnavs, how do i know which one to get.
[10:01] <raphink> desplesda: it seems there's a pb with this package. report this bug and if you want to install it, try to build it
[10:01] <oskude> ahoora, maybe cause your firewall did what it was supposed to do ?
[10:01] <liable> ahoora: try shorewall, theres good docs for nat on there site.
[10:02] <desplesda> raphink:  pb standing for package bug, yes?
[10:02] <raphink> desplesda: yes
[10:02] <desplesda> raphink:  thanks :)
[10:02] <ahoora> okude of course it did but i didn't know how to configure it too lol
[10:02] <Locke> does anyone know how to install a theme for IceWM?
[10:02] <ahoora> thank luable
[10:02] <raphink> desplesda: do you have more output after these lines?
[10:02] <liable> heh, that gives my nick a hawiian feel :)
[10:03] <desplesda> raphink:  no, that's all i get
[10:03] <raphink> hmm then maybe no ...
[10:03] <ahoora> i got one more(may be funny) question : is learning linux depends on the knowledge about C programming?
[10:03] <desplesda> ahoora:  absolutely not
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: no.
[10:03] <oskude> ahoora, nope
[10:03] <brice_> yes
[10:03] <oskude> lol
[10:03] <intelikey> no
[10:03] <brice_> :)
[10:03] <desplesda> lol
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> ahoora: but *it* can help.
[10:03] <raphink> desplesda: can you try dpkg --configure -a ?
[10:03] <YukiIkyuta> it *can*, even!
[10:04] <raphink> ahoora: no
[10:04] <boo> !cvs
[10:04] <ubotu> well, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:04] <YukiIkyuta> !svn
[10:04] <desplesda> no output, returns 0
[10:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:04] <YukiIkyuta> w00t.
[10:04] <liable> bah, crap, there is absolutely no need to know C to admin linux.
[10:04] <ahoora> so the only thing i need is to open a linux book and start right?
[10:04] <raphink> desplesda: no crash?
[10:04] <desplesda> no crash
[10:05] <boo> If i am downloading dvdnav from here http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/dvd/libdvdnav2/ is it usual practice to download all the files individually? and how do i know which dvdnav to get
[10:05] <desplesda> ahoora:  yes, but it helps if it's a recent book
[10:05] <oskude> ahoora, and learn about partitions and MBR...
[10:05] <ahoora> so could you plz introduce me a good source?
[10:05] <raphink> boo: why do you download dvdnav ? can't you just install it ?
[10:05] <raphink> ahoora: never used a linux book ;)
[10:06] <ahoora> raphink so how did you learn linux ? lol
[10:06] <boo> i dont know if i have it?
[10:06] <oskude> ahoora, sry, i allso tried to find a good "newbie" intro to partitions... im making one, but im so lazy :)
[10:06] <raphink> ahoora: by practicing, and with the help of others
[10:06] <boo> ok SPM says libdvdnav4 is installed
[10:06] <raphink> and with google ;)
[10:06] <desplesda> ahoora:  most of us just learned by playing with it until we were comfortable with it
[10:06] <intelikey> ahoora 'man man'
[10:06] <raphink> ahoora: you can learn a lot from tutorials on the internet
[10:07] <raphink> boo: did you try to apt-cache search dvdnav ?
[10:07] <boo> uhhhhh
[10:07] <bunnynhb> Is Ubuntu creating an addon CD? I could use one instead of downloading dependancies upon dependancies using microsoft OS.
[10:07] <boo> way over my head lol
[10:07] <raphink> boo: do you know synaptic ?
[10:07] <anavim> I uninstalled gdm because I'm using fluxbox and don't need it, and all my virtual terminals are now gone. Trying to invoke getty from cli doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[10:07] <boo> sorta
[10:07] <boo> the box is green in packman (pack man is what its called right)
[10:07] <raphink> boo: then see if you can find dvdnav on it
[10:08] <syok> hentai
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> syok: agreeably!
[10:08] <desplesda> syok:  indeed
[10:08] <boo> what does that mean
[10:08] <ahoora> yeah i know i learnt dos and windows like that but those two were easy :|
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> I wonder ...
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> !henta
[10:08] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> !hentai
[10:08] <ubotu> YukiIkyuta: Are you smoking crack?
[10:08] <YukiIkyuta> Damn.
[10:08] <intelikey> lol  'man woman'  output.   "there is no command line interface for a woman"    :)
[10:08] <raphink> ahoora: linux is not more difficult at all
[10:09] <syok> yoyo
[10:09] <Locke> what is a bittorent client?
[10:09] <boo> legal kazaa =/
[10:09] <oskude> ahoora, i find this not so "newbie" friendly but if you master this, you can easily master linux :) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/
[10:09] <anavim> intelikey, that's not what I get when I type "man woman"  :P
[10:09] <ahoora> raphink but it seems like an ocean
[10:09] <syok> close
[10:09] <intelikey> anavim different distro
[10:10] <ahoora> thanks oskude
[10:10] <syok> -close
[10:10] <desplesda> Locke:  a bittorrent client is a program that downloads files using the bittorrent protocol
[10:10] <boo> YukiIkyuta, or raphink, all i know is that libdvdnav4 is green in packman.
[10:10] <Locke> desplesda: yes... i know...
[10:10] <raphink> boo: what is packman?
[10:10] <ryan_> great
[10:10] <Locke> desplesda: what is a GOOD client
[10:10] <boo> synaptic package manger
[10:10] <jkgljsd> ! raid
[10:10] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[10:10] <boo> i thought it was called packman
[10:10] <raphink> ah ok
[10:10] <bunnynhb> Could someone build a kde compressed file so I could get just one file instead of many small ones at 56k.
[10:10] <desplesda> Locke:  oh lol, you said 'what is a bittorrent client', not 'what is a good bittorrent client' :P
[10:10] <ryan_> Yuki, how do I uninstall something?
[10:10] <raphink> well then it's installed I guess boo
[10:11] <raphink> boo: its called synaptic
[10:11] <boo> oh
[10:11] <boo> :P
[10:11] <Locke> the default bittorrent client SUCKS, i need a better one
[10:11] <raphink> boo: pacman is the archlinux package manager
[10:11] <jkgljsd> ! repos
[10:11] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:11] <boo> i try opening a video_ts.vob file, but nothing happens.
[10:11] <anavim> bunnynhb, the files coming from synaptic are compressed already
[10:11] <desplesda> boo: if you want to watch dvds, then you should open it with a media player (i use totem)
[10:12] <boo> yes thats what im using
[10:12] <boo> when i open videots.vob with totem, the screen is black
[10:12] <desplesda> no, don't do that, go to Movie > Play Disc
[10:12] <boo> this is a mounted disk
[10:12] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[10:12] <boo> not a physical disk
[10:12] <anavim> intelikey, reminds me of the "make love" joke on cli
[10:12] <boo> what do you need help with Geeek
[10:13] <bunnynhb> anavim: I'm having problems finding out what all I need and at 56k withmany files it get's tedious.  I need justone file.
[10:13] <intelikey> :(
[10:13] <intelikey> :)
[10:13] <oskude> Geeek, are you doing a dualboot setup ?
[10:13] <boo> oh
[10:13] <Geeek> asku, i need to do that
[10:13] <boo> nvm it works :o
[10:14] <Geeek> i'm installing on a pc working with xp
[10:14] <Geeek> i have 3 partitions
[10:14] <boo> geeek i just installed ubuntu, and it did a dual boot automatically
[10:14] <oskude> Geeek, maste this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/intro.html (sry, dont know easier way, yet)
[10:14] <oskude> *master
[10:14] <anavim> bunnynhb, if there are lots of dependencies needed to install, you won't be able to skip them
[10:15] <Geeek> i already have 3 partions: 1. xp 2. swap 3. for linux
[10:15] <bunnynhb> anavim: I was just hoping someone could put all of them into one easy downloadable fiole.
[10:15] <bunnynhb> file.
[10:16] <boo> Ok next challenge....TV out with my x700 pro
[10:16] <anavim> bunnynhb, ah
[10:17] <intelikey> geeek just install normal and when it prompts about partitions choose manuel partitioning and select the partition you have made for linux, remove it. make a new one ext3, use as / , and select format.  badabing.
[10:17] <bunnynhb> anavim: I aamdownloading in microsoft OS and amattempting to get Linux on the net to use apt-get.
[10:17] <anavim> bunnynhb, your best best, imho, is to leave it overnight while it downloads and installs.. I've had to do similar things downloading oracle 9i (300MB) over 56k modem  :D
[10:17] <grayman> !essential
[10:17] <ubotu> grayman: I give up, what is it?
[10:17] <grayman> bah
[10:18] <rapha> Hi
[10:18] <bunnynhb> anavim: I am downloading in microsoft OS.
[10:18] <rapha> Can somebody help me configure Samba?
[10:18] <grayman> erm
[10:18] <grayman> what was the command to install essentials?
[10:18] <rapha> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:19] <intelikey> geeek only thing you need to know is which partition it is and read all that the installer puts on the screen.....  peace of cake.
[10:19] <grayman> thanks
[10:19] <anavim> bunnynhb, you've tried cygwin?
[10:19] <oskude_> and to know that "C:\" is NOT a partition ;)
[10:19] <boo> lol
[10:19] <boo> !tvout
[10:19] <ubotu> boo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:19] <bunnynhb> anavim: I need to get my smartmodem working in Linux to use apt-get. It's the  only modem that works where I'm at.
[10:20] <bunnynhb> anavim: cygwin?
[10:20] <rapha> I can't get a Samba share set-up that Windows can connect to as a specific user
[10:20] <anavim> bunnynhb, cygwin makes life on windows easier
[10:20] <rapha> Only thing that works is guest/guest
[10:20] <T80U> hey
[10:20] <bunnynhb> anavim: What is cygwin?
[10:21] <eViL_> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu comes with drivers for the Intel Pro Wireless 2200 BG or where I can find a hardware compatibility list ?
[10:21] <Juhaz> it does
[10:22] <anavim> bunnynhb, it's a linux-like environment for windows, http://www.cygwin.com/
[10:22] <eViL_> cygwin is a linux implementation in windows
[10:22] <eViL_> is ubuntu fast ?
[10:22] <Juhaz> cygwin is definitely not a linux implementation in any sense of the word
[10:22] <intelikey> it's dosemu in reverse...
[10:22] <bunnynhb> anavim: I want Linux seperate.
[10:22] <oskude_> eViL_, define "fast" :)
[10:22] <anavim> Juhaz, that's what the very start of cygwin.com describes it as
[10:23] <eViL_> sory, it was the first thing it came to my head
[10:23] <eViL_> fast...
[10:23] <eViL_> how long it takes to boot ?
[10:23] <boo> For anyone who can help, I have a ati x700 card with svideo out. i had svideo working on windows. where would i set up tv out in ubuntu
[10:23] <Juhaz> anavim, I wasn't referring you your comment, but eViL_'s, "linux-like" is quite different than "linux implementation"
[10:23] <anavim> Juhaz, oh, whoops you were replying to eViL_
[10:23] <eViL_> i have an AtiRadeon Mobility 9700
[10:24] <Mabus06> How come when I play Diablo 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix?
[10:24] <oskude_> boo, check ubuntuforums.org (i ve seen threads, but not read them:)
[10:24] <T80U> Im having problems setting up SQL i keep getting this error #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[10:24] <boo> eViL_, it takes longer for me to enter my password than it does to boot
[10:24] <bunnynhb> There is a Diablo 3?
[10:24] <oskude_> boo, i remember having an "ati button" in my menu after installing fglrx drivers
[10:24] <Mabus06> Uh.....
[10:24] <ryan_> he meant 2 I'm sure
[10:24] <T80U> does anyone know anything about that error?
[10:25] <Mabus06> How come when I play Doom 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix?
[10:25] <eViL_> nice... i'll try ubuntu...
[10:25] <oskude_> boo, and there was something to activate tvout... i use radeon now...
[10:25] <ryan_> or that
[10:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, you on Cedega?
[10:25] <Mabus06> No, I'm tired.. lol ryan_ , bungle
[10:25] <Mabus06> bunnynhb, i mean
[10:25] <mustard5> Mabus06, ah ok
[10:25] <Mabus06> No this is a linux port
[10:25] <eViL_> and does Kubuntu already come with Kde 3.5 ?
[10:25] <oskude_> T80U, as it sais, access denied...
[10:25] <Mabus06> It's a linux version of the game, works just fine for the video (even with my low grade video card)
[10:26] <boo> do you have a sound card?
[10:26] <Mabus06> but the audio sounds very.... "robotic"
[10:26] <Mabus06> Yes I do
[10:26] <Mabus06> Soundblaster Live 5.1
[10:26] <oskude_> wtf, brb
[10:26] <T80U> anyone at all?
[10:26] <T80U> ow come when I play Doom 3 on ubuntu the sound is incredibly choppy? Is there something I could do that would be a likely fix
[10:26] <T80U> oops
[10:26] <T80U> my bad
[10:26] <Mabus06> heh
[10:26] <Mabus06> same problem? :D
[10:26] <T80U> me = noob
[10:26] <T80U> lol
[10:26] <boo> i bet im noober than you
[10:27] <T80U> i cant even get SQL working on Ubuntu....
[10:27] <boo> i dont know what sql is
[10:27] <mustard5> T80U, its not the first time I have seen that question asked :)
[10:27] <T80U> keeps saying #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO
[10:27] <anavim> boo, structured query language (database)
[10:28] <Mabus06> So anyone with any ideas as to why Doom 3 would have such choppy sound?
[10:28] <Mabus06> Like ridiculously choppy, even though the video works fine.
[10:28] <mustard5> T80U, when I had that problem I found some answers via google
[10:28] <eViL_> -------> Does Kubuntu come with KDE 3.5 already ?
[10:28] <Mabus06> And I have a relatively good sound card. (better than my video card)
[10:28] <Geeek> can anybody help me installing ubuntu?
[10:28] <crimsun> Mabus06: using plughw:0 ?
[10:28] <Jube> hey... I got a real stupid questoin here, but could someone please lend me a hand?
[10:28] <bunnynhb> anavim: If Ubuntu shows my modem installed, is it really installed?  I've had problems with other linux OSs.
[10:28] <oskude_> wtf, oskude is here ? i logged out with it ?!?!
[10:29] <anavim> bunnynhb, I haven't used a modem on ubuntu, sorry
[10:29] <boo> :O HAX
[10:29] <T80U> yeah - i tried seraching and found that mysql -u root -p
[10:29] <Mabus06> crimsun, no idea
[10:29] <Mabus06> Jube, never ask to ask questions. Ask questions.
[10:29] <T80U> but it dosent seem to work : |
[10:29] <intelikey> bunnynhb have you ran wvdialconf ?
[10:29] <onispawn> Mabus06: there was a post in the forum about that said something about running the command `doom3 +set s_device oss` to play
[10:29] <Jube> lol
[10:29] <oskude_> well, gotta wait until it timeouts...swt
[10:29] <Mabus06> onispawn, thank you very much, I will try that after crimsun says whatever he was gonna say
[10:29] <anavim> Mabus06, reminds me of Carmack talking about how they now had spare cpu cycles so they would use it all on 3d surround sound... maybe related to your problem
[10:30] <Jube> I just got ubuntu yesterday in the mail. Where do i find the terminal/command line?
[10:30] <oskude_> juhuu^^
[10:30] <Mabus06> what, anavim ?
[10:30] <bunnynhb> anavim: I understand.  The help files online saysall I have to do is install 2 files and it's installed.
[10:30] <mustard5> oskude, if you you know the password you can reclaim it with ghost command I think
[10:30] <mustard5> nevermind :)
[10:30] <anavim> Mabus06, your CPU meets requirements for doom3?
[10:30] <Tidus> hooray for laptop taking about 10 minutes to boot
[10:31] <Mabus06> 2.8ghz? Didn't check but probably.
[10:31] <T80U> what graphics card are you using? (im just curious)
[10:31] <anavim> Mabus06, ok, probably not then
[10:31] <Geeek> osku can help one sec?
[10:31] <oskude> Geeek, sure, if i can
[10:31] <Mabus06> An onboard intel something... not very good. But the video works just fine.
[10:32] <Tidus> onboard intel anythings usually won't run doom3 worth anything
[10:32] <T80U> cool
[10:32] <Geeek> osku i have doubt whem i have to choose where install linux
[10:32] <Mabus06> Runs it just fine Tidus
[10:32] <T80U> argh i wish SQL would work
[10:32] <Tidus> Mabus06: then again, i wouldn't know... i have a nvidia GF4 Ti4200
[10:32] <Mabus06> Except for the sound. If it was gonna be choppy you'd think the video would be choppy.
[10:32] <WildPenguin> Jube, Applications -> accessories -> terminal - in gnome, or you can use ctrl+alt + (1-6) with ctrl + alt + 7 to get back to X
[10:32] <Geeek> osku i have many options (mount...etc) and not sure about what to do
[10:32] <bunnynhb> intelikey: I'm not in Linux.
[10:32] <onispawn> Mabus06: try that command I gave you. it fixed my sound issue I had for quake 4
[10:32] <oskude> Geeek, did you do backup of your data ?
[10:33] <Jube> thanks WildPenguin
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i come from win xp so i don't know
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i need to back up all?
[10:33] <Mabus06> I will onispawn, I was just listening to what people had to suggest while my query was still fresh.
[10:33] <Geeek> osku, i have 22 giga used
[10:33] <oskude> Geeek, when ever you mess with partitions, i would do backup
[10:33] <intelikey> Geeek  alt+f2   and run 'fdisk -l '  it will list the partitions and their fs types
[10:33] <bunnynhb> intelikey: I have to download files in microsoft os and reboot into linux.
[10:34] <oskude> Geeek, well, backup is not so common on desktop users...
[10:34] <Geeek> intelikey, i already have the swap and linux ready partitions
[10:34] <Geeek> osku, how can i backup, i mean the fastest solution?
[10:34] <oskude> Geeek, the minimal partitions for linux is, a "/" partition and a "swap" partition
[10:34] <intelikey> geeek yes i was telling you how to idintify them, from within the installer of ubuntu
[10:35] <intelikey> oskude swap is not mandatory
[10:35] <bunnynhb> intelikey: If Ubuntu shows my modem installed, is it really installed?  I've had problems with other linux OSs.
[10:35] <intelikey> minimal is /
[10:35] <oskude> Geeek, i use partimage with my rescuecd to backup partitions on another partitions, and save them all over my PCs, :)
[10:36] <oskude> intelikey, well, i wouldnt advice a newbie to install without swap...
[10:36] <Geeek> but i already have swap partition
[10:37] <intelikey> bunnynhb if you are asking if ubuntu is better than other linux distros, the answer is NO.   is it the latest release of most things, YES.
[10:37] <Nomikos> anyone know how to decompress .bin files? just downloaded an installer in that format
[10:37] <oskude> Geeek, swap is ok :)
[10:37] <Nomikos> preferably via the commandline
[10:37] <ryan_> can someone tell me what the multiverse repository URL is?
[10:37] <Nomikos> suggestions on java virtual machine under Ubuntu welcome as well
[10:37] <anavim> Nomikos, try executing it
[10:38] <onispawn> Nomikos: you can execute .bin files
[10:38] <oskude> Geeek, the you only need a "/" partition (ubuntu standard is ext3 format)
[10:38] <anavim> Nomikos, chmod +x foo.bin; ./foo.bin
[10:38] <intelikey> bunnynhb is there hardware that ubuntu doesn't know how to setup, YES unfortunatly there is.
[10:38] <Nomikos> who knew
[10:38] <Nomikos> thanks
[10:38] <Geeek> is that all i need to know?
[10:38] <anavim> Nomikos, yw
[10:38] <intelikey> !java
[10:38] <Geeek> what about the /mount options and so on?
[10:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:38] <oskude> Geeek, erm... no :)
[10:39] <Tidus> !tell Nomikos about java
[10:39] <oskude> Geeek, if you woulnt do a dualboot, it would be easier than windows, just let all auto...
[10:39] <ryan_> uboto I tried to do what that says but I get an error when I try to add java-package
[10:39] <intelikey> Geeek the defaults for / will be fine.
[10:39] <oskude> now you "have" to know http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/index.html
[10:40] <oskude> when it comes to "my windows wont start" :)
[10:40] <oskude> Geeek, but as intelikey said, the default for "/" will do
[10:40] <Mabus06> okay, update to the doom3 situation... tried with the command I was given but I got this error
[10:40] <Mabus06> idAudioHardwareALSA::Write: 4096 frames overflowed and dropped
[10:40] <Mabus06> many times in the terminal after I closed the game
[10:41] <Geeek> ok i see the website
[10:41] <Mabus06> But I thought it was supposed to make me use the OSS rather than ALSA?
[10:42] <boo> ok i was trying to use svideo out for my ati x700, and i searched ubuntuforms.org and i cant find anything
[10:42] <boo> any help?
[10:42] <oskude> boo, which dirvers have you installed ?
[10:42] <oskude> *drivers
[10:43] <boo> i dont think ive installed any drivers
[10:43] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell Jube about rootsudo
[10:43] <T80U> how does one setup MYSQL?
[10:43] <yasmina> hi
[10:43] <T80U> i keep getting access denied
[10:43] <intelikey> !root
[10:43] <ubotu> hmm... root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:43] <oskude> what does it say as driver in "/etc/X11/xorg,conf" ?
[10:43] <T80U> even when i just reinstall it
[10:43] <yasmina> I've got a problem with abiword on xfce
[10:44] <Mabus06> intelikey, what are you doing? lol
[10:44] <yasmina> it started printing 'test field text ($number updates)' without stopping
[10:44] <oskude> T80U, have you tried "mysql -u root -p" ?
[10:44] <T80U> yeah
[10:44] <T80U> i did that
[10:44] <intelikey> Mabus06 ?
[10:44] <T80U> and it still comes up with this error 1045 access denied using password yes
[10:44] <oskude> T80U, did you have the right password (dunno whats default:)
[10:44] <yasmina> I'm wondering if 1) this is a known bug; 2) there is an abiword cache somwhere where I can get the file before killing the app
[10:44] <T80U> uhh i think so
[10:44] <Mabus06> oskude, when I closed down doom 3 (still had choppy sound) in the terminal it was having ALSA errors, implying OSS wasn't being used.
[10:44] <T80U> i even tried just putting in nothing
[10:45] <T80U> still dosent work
[10:45] <yasmina> anyone?
[10:45] <Mabus06> intelikey, I did a query to ubotu to tell someone about rootsudo... why did you say !root ?
[10:45] <boo> under driver it says ati
[10:45] <boo> line 66
[10:45] <intelikey> checking the infonode
[10:45] <T80U> do you have any more ideas oskude?
[10:46] <oskude> boo, i doubt that the "ati" driver handles svideo out...
[10:46] <boo> are there vid. drivers for linux? i had omega drivers for windows
[10:46] <oskude> T80U, sec, ill install it too :)
[10:46] <oskude> !ati
[10:46] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:46] <T80U> yay, thanks champ
[10:47] <oskude> boo, there should be info on how to install the official ati drivers, and i remember seeing an ati button in menu after that (there was videout settings in there)
[10:48] <intelikey> hmmm gota work on a heater, bbl
[10:48] <oskude> T80U, hmm, i get in with "mysql -u root -p" and just pressing enter... hmm
[10:48] <T80U> yeah, for me it saying #1045 - Access denied for user: 'user@localhost' (Using password: NO
[10:48] <oskude> T80U, is this your first install of mysql-server ?
[10:48] <T80U> no
[10:49] <T80U> i think its the 3rd or 4th
[10:49] <T80U> been trying to get it working since this morning...
[10:49] <oskude> T80U, ok i just wanted to know if you have some data in db you dont wanna loose
[10:49] <ryan_> Anybody not busy that can help me figure out why I can't get java-package to install?
[10:49] <T80U> nah lol
[10:49] <T80U> it can get wiped
[10:50] <oskude> try "sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql-server" and installing again
[10:50] <T80U> thanks
[10:51] <T80U> okay
[10:51] <oskude> T80U, "--purge" means it should remove all configurations
[10:51] <T80U> cheers
[10:51] <oskude> T80U, works ?
[10:51] <ryan_> Ok can anyone tell me what this means then?  --->  E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:51] <T80U> its come up with a blue boxy thing that says
[10:52] <oskude> T80U, yup, remove all databases :)
[10:52] <T80U> should i remove all swl trees
[10:52] <T80U> oaky thanks
[10:52] <T80U> try and reinstall oskude?
[10:52] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me here, please?? My Doom 3 has choppy sound. Someone suggested a command that is supposed to use OSS instead of ALSA, but it didn't work as when I closed it I saw many ALSA errors in the terminal I executed doom 3 from. Please does anyone either know how to execute doom 3 using OSS, or another suggestion?
[10:53] <oskude> T80U, yup, now install it again
[10:53] <T80U> mabus06 - try looking at cache megs in the base config
[10:53] <T80U> cool
[10:54] <T80U> okay
[10:54] <T80U> oskude - it seems to be done
[10:54] <oskude> T80U, nice
[10:54] <T80U> try that command again?
[10:54] <rapha> Does nobody here know how to configure Samba?
[10:54] <oskude> T80U, yup. try login now
[10:54] <onispawn> Mabus06: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85560&highlight=doom+sound
[10:54] <Mabus06> T80U, cache megs in base config? What?
[10:55] <T80U> yes it works!
[10:55] <T80U> thank you oskude!
[10:55] <ryan_> oskude, can you help me now?
[10:55] <oskude> T80U, juhuu, your welcome
[10:55] <oskude> ryan_, whats up ?
[10:55] <T80U> thanks champ
[10:55] <ryan_> ok
[10:55] <oskude> in NO champ :)
[10:55] <oskude> *im
[10:55] <ryan_> when I type this ->
[10:56] <ryan_> sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:56] <oskude> just a passioned linux user :)
[10:56] <Mabus06> onispawn, how do I change to OSS though? Your command seemed to not work, and I don't know of a "doom config"
[10:56] <T80U> mabus06 - i remember something about cache_megs? in the base config
[10:56] <ryan_> i get this  >
[10:56] <ryan_> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:56] <ryan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:56] <ryan_> is only available from another source
[10:56] <ryan_> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:56] <T80U> it should be in base mabus06
[10:56] <oskude> !binpaste
[10:56] <ubotu> oskude: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:56] <oskude> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:56] <Hobbsee> !tell ryan_ about java
[10:56] <oskude> ryan_, sec, ill look to it
[10:56] <ryan_> yes yes i know
[10:57] <ryan_> It almost seems like I don't have a multiverse repository enabled but I enabled it
[10:57] <kane_> Is there a way to use a remote desktop under ubuntu /without/ a user already being logged in? It seems the vncd refuses connections then, and i can't find anything in the help pages that tell me how to change this
[10:57] <T80U> thanks again oskude
[10:57] <huhmz> kane_: NX
[10:57] <oskude> ryan_, its in in multiverse http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=j2re1.4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[10:57] <oskude> read
[10:57] <oskude> !repos
[10:57] <ubotu> methinks repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:58] <kane_> huhmz: what's 'NX'?
[10:58] <kane_> an application? a file? a webpage? a way to tell me to sod off? ;)
[10:58] <oskude> ryan_, do "sudo apt-get update" in terminal
[10:58] <ryan_> awesome
[10:58] <Seveas> !tell kane_ about freenx
[10:58] <quitte> whats the name of unstable now?
[10:58] <huhmz> kane_: it's a remote desktop technology, you search the ubuntu forums, there is a apt repo in there somewhere
[10:58] <eliphas_> hello
[10:59] <ryan_> ok i did apt-get update
[10:59] <kane_> huhmz: ok.. this means the standard vnc configuration can not be made to do it i take it
[10:59] <ryan_> k
[10:59] <huhmz> kane_: i don't know, i never use vnc, NX is superior in every way
[10:59] <kane_> seveas: reading now, ta
[11:00] <oskude> ryan_, does "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4" work now?
[11:01] <ryan_> no, let me try this pastebin thing out
[11:01] <oskude> ryan_, roger, post the link then here
[11:01] <oskude> ryan_, and post your /etc/apt/source.list file too
[11:02] <ryan_> yeah did that
[11:02] <ryan_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444701
[11:02] <oskude> ryan_, roger, sec
[11:03] <intelikey> ryan_ version ?
[11:03] <oskude> ryan_, ok, your missing the "multiverse" reposity
[11:03] <ryan_> that's what I figured but I read the wiki on it
[11:03] <eliphas_> I have an issue with firefox i can't browse the net
[11:03] <eliphas_> when i ping demon.net or any other location it works fine
[11:04] <eliphas_> but not thru firefox
[11:04] <oskude> ryan_, you allready have two lines with "multiverse" in it, just uncomment them, "sudo apt-get update" and now you should be able to install
[11:04] <ryan_> ok let me try this
[11:04] <oskude> ryan_, wait
[11:05] <kane_> eliphas_ a ping is not quite the same as an http request. when you do 'telnet www.google.com 80' does that work for you?
[11:05] <oskude> ryan_, theres backport in it, i wouldnt advice to use it...
[11:05] <ryan_> yeah i took those out
[11:05] <ryan_> after someone advised
[11:06] <eliphas_> kane erf no i got a trying <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:06] <kane_> eliphas_: you're not getting out through port 80 -- perhaps behind a proxy?
[11:06] <kane_> well, 'through'.. you get the drift
[11:07] <oskude> ryan_, so you dont have "backports" in any uncommented line ?
[11:07] <eliphas_> kane no here I am on my laptop and it is fine as you can tell but the new pc next to me isn't getting nowhere
[11:07] <ryan_> nope
[11:07] <Sonderblade> how do you make it so ubuntu automatically mounts floppies?
[11:08] <oskude> ryan_, ok, now you can "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install j2re1.4"
[11:08] <kane_> eliphas_ hmm, that /is/ weird.. and hwen you ping any outside url, it pings the right IP, correct?
[11:08] <Firen> i want reinstall my second os and probably mbr will be overwrite, so i'm asking how to change(fix) mbr to ubuntu mbr with grub after intalation?
[11:09] <ryan_> same error msg
[11:09] <ryan_> but i uncommented the multiverse lines
[11:09] <ryan_> so i really do not understand why
[11:10] <oskude> ryan_, did you apt-get updgrade (did you get errors with that)?
[11:10] <oskude> hups
[11:10] <oskude> NO
[11:10] <ryan_> let me see if any errors
[11:10] <oskude> ryan_, apt-get update
[11:11] <oskude> ryan_, the complete command is "sudo apt-get update"
[11:11] <ryan_> yeah i know, no errors either time i tried that
[11:11] <eliphas_> kane yep
[11:11] <eliphas_>  weird
[11:11] <oskude> ryan_, ok, could you post your current sources.list
[11:11] <eliphas_> if I ping google it is ok
[11:11] <eliphas_> etc...
[11:12] <EvilPaddy> anyone know the Keystroke for the Euro symbol??
[11:12] <ryan_> ok one sec
[11:12] <intelikey> Sonderblade you can use supermount if it is installed, by adding this line to your /etc/fstab 'none /media/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,rw,--,,sync,umask=0 0 0 '  that is one way.
[11:12] <eliphas_> EvilPaddy try alt-gr 4
[11:12] <oskude> EvilPaddy, on german keyboard its [altctrl] +[e]
[11:13] <kane_> eliphas_: then i'm a bit stumped.. i'm not getting why 'telnet google.com 80' would give you another IP then
[11:13] <mcphail> eliphas_: kane_: a few people have asked about this on this channel before. The issue was usually resolved by changing the order of DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:13] <mcphail> (don't ask me why...)
[11:13] <ryan_> Oskude, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/444710
[11:13] <kane_> mcphail: that sounds reasonable if both telnet /and/ ping would get it wrong.. but hey, it's worth a shot
[11:13] <eliphas_> mcpahail ok I look at the issue
[11:13] <eliphas_> mcphail ok I look at the issue
[11:13] <mcphail> kane_: no - ping always worked
[11:14] <kane_> mcphail: that's Weird (with a capital W) ;)
[11:14] <oskude> ryan_, hmm, strange... looks good ...
[11:14] <mcphail> as i said, don't ask me why!
[11:14] <intelikey> hmmm does ub not have supermount ?
[11:14] <ryan_> i just realized that my backport is still uncommented though
[11:14] <eliphas_> lol worth to get a haggis at lunch time if it works
[11:14] <oskude> ryan_, yup :)
[11:14] <EvilPaddy> eliphas_, Cheers, that works
[11:14] <topyli> intelikey: no, but it does mount stuff automatically
[11:15] <topyli> intelikey: supermount is pretty much mandrake's own hobby
[11:15] <oskude> ryan_, change that "breezy-backports" to "breezy" on both lines
[11:15] <intelikey> topyli hal ?
[11:15] <ryan_> ok
[11:15] <intelikey> hotplug ?
[11:15] <eliphas_> :) At least I helped someone in my disarray
[11:15] <eliphas_> :)
[11:15] <oskude> ryan_, mines look like this "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe main restricted multiverse"
[11:15] <topyli> intelikey: gnome-volume-manager. i guess it works though hal magic in its innyrds
[11:16] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me to start doom3 using OSS? I've tried a few things but I sort of need to explain a few details, but let me know if you're willing to help please. Help would be appreciated!
[11:16] <ryan_> i'll add that and see if it helps
[11:16] <intelikey> but that doesn't work in console topyli
[11:16] <boo> hey oskude
[11:16] <crimsun> Mabus06: doesn't doom3 support ALSA natively?
[11:16] <Kimppa> Umm. Hi. Something weird just happened to me. I had around 150 mb free space on hda1, so I moved a 1,1 GB file to hda2, however, the when I run "df -h", the free space on hda1 hasn't increased o_O
[11:16] <ryan_> hmmmm
[11:16] <boo> i installed the flgrx drivers...what now
[11:16] <Kimppa> and yes, I moved the file, not copied
[11:17] <topyli> intelikey: true. hotplug it is then. or something ;-)
[11:17] <oskude> ryan_, you can change the "de" to something thats closer to you (de = germany)
[11:17] <boo> KIMPPA HAXORS STEAL YOUR MEGABYTES