[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I should log out and see what happens?
[04:35] <doopsie> hello people, i own a w5f and was trying to get the webcam to work under it. i found a website http://lists-archives.org/spca50x-devs/01024-asus-w5f-laptop-with-vimicro-webcam-usb2-ubuntu-edgy.html that showed ppl how to make it work under linux but i dont quite understand the instructions. could somebody guide me along it?
[04:35] <bulmer> KDan: is that a stock module that came with ubuntu install? am just guessing its not totally compatible with your chips
[04:36] <KDan> yep, so
[04:36] <KDan> *stock
[04:36] <doopsie> http://www.acacs.org/bernard/ this is the website that it links to but i dont understand the language
[04:37] <KDan> somewhat annoying is that the wiki page for the "LaptopTestingTeam" is 404'ing, even though that's what's linked from the wifidocs
[04:37] <KDan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopTestingTeam
[04:37] <bulmer> KDan: maybe you try reloading the module via  modprobe bcm43xx
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell [niceday] _ about away | [niceday] _, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:37] <bulmer> rather unload (rmmod)  then reload modprobe
[04:38] <stefg> doopsie: have you ever compiled software from source before?
[04:38] <webmaren> the cover looks...
[04:38] <webmaren> ...interesting
[04:38] <doopsie> im quite a linux newbie. i've tried compiling, but never really succeeded
[04:38] <doopsie> its the tar -xyfz thing or something right?
[04:39] <HHak> excuse me, what was the nickname for the 6.10 release? dapper drake?
[04:39] <doopsie> edgy eft
[04:39] <LjL> Ubotu, tell HHak about edgy | HHak, see the private message from Ubotu
[04:39] <HHak> oh yeah
[04:39] <bulmer> KDan: just my experience so far...i tried to use the ipaq driver for pda that is stock, and fails, i have to reload it to make it work..
[04:39] <RedShift> what's better in terms of performance
[04:39] <RedShift> xfs or jfs?
[04:39] <Aarohi> i'm getting an 'internal error' 'failed to initialize HAL' error when ubuntu boots up
[04:39] <stefg> doopsie: he whole process involves a lot of knowledge, and i'd suggest to get a geek to get it done
[04:40] <RedShift> (kubuntu 6.06 doesn't support reiserfs??)
[04:40] <LjL> RedShift: it does - if you use the alternate CD
[04:40] <doopsie> there isn
[04:40] <bulmer> doopsie:  tar -x  filename   x is for extracting an archived file like a zip file
[04:40] <LjL> RedShift: with the Desktop CD, i think you can only use ext3
[04:40] <doopsie> there isn't any linux geek where i live =(
[04:40] <KDan> bulmer: thanks for the help. just tried it and didn't work unfortunately :-(
[04:40] <RedShift> crap
[04:40] <LjL> !convertfs | RedShift
[04:40] <ubotu> convertfs: in-place filesystem conversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 20050113-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:40] <montoya> Why kdevelop run in english!!! My locale is set to italian
[04:40] <KDan> it installs all the other sensible dependencies... e.g. ieee80211, etc
[04:41] <LjL> RedShift: (note that's *dangerous*, only do it if you've got nothing to lose on the partition)
[04:41] <KDan> well, 2 of them anyway
[04:41] <bulmer> KDan: am struggling with my ACX11 card too..have not tried ndiswrapper yet..
[04:41] <doopsie> yup. that part i nkow =)
[04:41] <vinylgirl> Hm, my WiFi adapter always shows as eth1 and not wlan0. I already changed things in vi /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:41] <vinylgirl> but it doens't help... How the fuck can I fix this ?
[04:41] <bulmer> well i had acx11 work on suse with ndiswrapper just have with ubuntu yet
[04:41] <DBO> vinylgirl, watch the language please
[04:41] <LjL> !language | vinylgirl
[04:41] <ubotu> vinylgirl: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:42] <stefg> !language | vinylgirl
[04:42] <DBO> I win
[04:42] <IdleOne> vinylgirl, start by not swearing in here please this is a family type channel
[04:42] <stefg> ok,
[04:42] <bulmer> vinylgirl: whats so wrong with having an interface name eth1 instead of wlan1 ?
[04:42] <LjL> DBO: you didn't have the family friendly part. you lose
[04:42] <DBO> you cheated
[04:42] <LjL> DBO: ubotu ain't cheating :P
[04:43] <stefg> BTW, DBO i owe some OSS royalties for the code snippets yu gave me in summer... the box works now and we have a happy old lady with email
[04:43] <vinylgirl> bulmer: well it's a pain in the ass. And the same device shows as wlan0 in Debian, after editing the udev configuration
[04:43] <KDan> bulmer: hmm.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingUbuntuOnADellLatitudeX1?highlight=%28dell%29 seems to imply that i need some sort of "ipw2200" driver
[04:44] <vinylgirl> ... but, *sigh*, the udev configuration in Ubuntu differs from DEbian
[04:44] <DBO> stefg, Id be lying if I said I remembered =P
[04:44] <KDan> and remove ieee80211
[04:44] <HHak> thanks for your help, i posted a question in the forums ...
[04:44] <bulmer> KDan: we must do what it takes to get it working  :)
[04:44] <unfun> How do I acces the terminal through my key board?
[04:44] <stefg> DBO: awk.... textfiles with increasing number... anyway, thanks a lot
[04:44] <HHak> logging out
[04:45] <DBO> stefg, remember now, glad it worked out for you =)
[04:45] <StingRay> Can somebody tell if I can edit the login manager?
[04:45] <sugarray> buenas
[04:45] <psycode> for some reason i have no internet access from my ubuntu machine. i get an ip from the router, but that's about it. can someone help me with that? (im a windows user usually) - how can i for example check my defauly gateway settings?
[04:46] <sugarray> alguien en castellano?
[04:46] <LjL> !es | sugarray
[04:46] <ubotu> sugarray: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:46] <QwertyM> unfun, hit alt f2, search terminal and hit enter
[04:46] <Silverboi> Hi guys..just wanted to know if anyone has successfully installed and booted Ubuntu with a USB harddisk on a MacIntel laptop?
[04:47] <stefg> psycode: DNS trouble?
[04:47] <StingRay> Can somebody tell me if I can restrict some users to graphical login of ubuntu?
[04:47] <psycode> stef, nope, i tried google.com's ip.
[04:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)... ??
[04:47] <psycode> stefg, that was for you^
[04:47] <stefg> got it... still chewing on it
[04:48] <psycode> stefg, how can i check my default gateway?
[04:48] <chimera_> Is it possible to use emerald without beryl for perfs?
[04:48] <stefg> cat /etc/network/interfaces
[04:48] <chand|> psycode: $ route
[04:49] <psycode> stefg, yup that's incorrect:) how can i change the default gateway?
[04:49] <stefg> Psycode just edit the file with root privilegs and save it
[04:50] <the_conley> i dont think you can StingRay
[04:50] <psycode> stefg, anything i need to do for changes to take affect?
[04:50] <the_conley> that doesnt really make sense at all...
[04:50] <bulmer> StingRay: look for /etc/securetty or /etc/usertty  that may restrict such user login via tty
[04:51] <stefg> psycode: sudo ifdown eth*, sudo ifup eth*
[04:51] <stefg> or whatever your NIC is called
[04:51] <the_conley> ah, well yea
[04:51] <the_conley> ok theres that, forgot
[04:51] <the_conley> i thought you meant locally
[04:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Please help a n00b out! :) How do I find out if /boot/grub is on (hd0,0)... (hd1,0)...?
[04:52] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: do an ls -la  /boot/grub
[04:52] <the_conley> you arent trying to restrict them to use graphical, just to log in locally
[04:52] <psycode> stefg, doesn't help :( is there a different way to check my current gateway? (not the config file itself)
[04:52] <bulmer> and find the file called menu.lst
[04:52] <ken> hello!
[04:52] <ken>  Please help:Firefox doesn't remember passwords for mail.yahoo.com. I checked that yahoo.com was not placed in edit>preferences>security>password-exceptions and it is NOT still firefox never asks me when i enter a userid/password whether it wants to remember the password or not (this happens only for yahoo.com, on other sites firefox happily asks me whether it should remember the password or not).
[04:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: thnx! trying it now!
[04:52] <stefg> psycode: there's a GUI-applet for it in System-Admin-Network
[04:53] <psycode> stefg, that's a bit of a problem since i can only access its shell :\
[04:53] <ollekalle> anyone have an idea on why I have a 3-pin connector on my new PCI card and how shall use it?
[04:53] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: also try the mount command and it should show which /dev/haXX is your /  on
[04:53] <StingRay> I will check them bulmer. Thanks
[04:53] <stefg> psycode: no, then all you can do is edit the config-file
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well... did it... (Ive edited menu.lst to change the grub background splash) but I dont find any (hd0,0)...
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: ok
[04:54] <diminthedam> hey folks! just installed windows over my ubuntu, as a dual boot. Can someone guide me through correctly restoring the GRUB, whilst presering the windows install, please?
[04:54] <stefg> psycode: but a reboot should fix it, if the gateway is right then
[04:54] <KDan> man!... i can't even seem to get the wired connection working!
[04:55] <psycode> stefg, k thx
[04:56] <drivera90> So, does anyone here know of any Ubuntu-compatible GameBoy Advance emulators?
[04:56] <indypende> hi!
[04:56] <Blissex> !grub
[04:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:56] <Blissex> diminthedam: the link above probably helps...
[04:56] <indypende> someone can help me writing a line in /etc/fstab for an ext3 partition?
[04:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well... 'mount -l' tells me that /boot is on dev/sda1 but nothing more...
[04:56] <diminthedam> ubotu: i have read the 1st guide, but i dont know which of thise options keeps the windows booting as well
[04:56] <Blissex> indypende: surely someone could, but you could just look for examples.
[04:57] <Blissex> diminthedam: probably all of them :-)
[04:57] <indypende> Blissex, sorry
[04:57] <indypende> i read a lot of documentation
[04:57] <indypende> but i don't know
[04:57] <bulmer> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and what does your /boot/grub/menu.lst tells you about hd0 ?
[04:57] <Blissex> diminthedam: in any case getting GRUB to boot a MS Windows partition is two lines...
[04:58] <Blissex> indypende: surely you have an 'ext3' line in your existing '/etc/fstab' Just change the first two columns.
[04:58] <doopsie> can someone teach me how to install gspcav1-20061216.tar.gz 2 from http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/ ? it's suppose to be the driver for the inbult webcam in my laptop. i extracted it already, but cannot seem to find a readme or install file
[04:58] <psycode> stefg, a reboot did the job :) thanks!
[04:58] <stefg> np
[04:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: ok... so I should be able to read it out in that file...? ok!
[04:58] <indypende> Blissex, i have the root partition only
[04:58] <Blissex> indypende: ahhhhh
[04:59] <stefg> doopsie: that's simply too complex if you never compiled before...
[04:59] <diminthedam> blissex: ??
[04:59] <doopsie> sigh. are there general instructions lying around somewhere?
[04:59] <Blissex> indypende: anyhow it will be something like '/dev/SOMETHING /mnt/SOMETHIN2 ext3 default 0 1'
[04:59] <indypende> Blissex, i want the partition to be readeable and writeable for every user
[05:00] <Two-Si1> hello
[05:00] <goqsane> Hello, how can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)
[05:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: well, it SEEMS like its in (hd0,0), and Ive added the line 'splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/36907-Blu.xpm.gz' but it doesnt work
[05:01] <indypende> Blissex, i know the bases of fstab
[05:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> bulmer: the filename is correct
[05:01] <ken> exit
[05:02] <Blissex> indypende: that you cannot do via '/etc/fstab', but via UNIX style permissions.
[05:02] <RedShift> what
[05:02] <RedShift> there's no /etc/resolv.conf??
[05:02] <ambros> Hi all
[05:02] <stefg> doopsie: First of all you've got to set up all the tools necessary (40-50 MB download) then you need all the dev-packages for sdl and sdl itself, set that up... then you need checkinstall... then you need to compile and package up a driver module.. install that... see what i mena?
[05:02] <Infeliz> :-F
[05:02] <Blissex> indypende: do something like 'chmod a+rwxt' on the top directory in that filesystem.
[05:02] <indypende> Blissex, but there is a lot of options. defaults let only root write on the partition
[05:02] <orangefly> what's a good intranet IM for ubuntu server....???....
[05:03] <goqsane> well no ideas as to my problem? ;P
[05:03] <goqsane> how can I mount a CD/DVD disk on my Ubuntu Live CD in order to burn things on them? (Nautilius-cd-burner asks me to put the CD into the drive, despite it's already there)
[05:03] <Blissex> indypende: no, not at all. 'defaults' means to let anybody who has permission to write. If the top directory in that filesystem is owned by 'root' and writable only by 'root' then of course only 'root' can write to it.
[05:04] <Blissex> goqsane: you must not mount if you want to write or append.
[05:04] <Blissex> goqsane: if mounted (append) then unmount it first.
[05:04] <indypende> ok
[05:04] <Blissex> orangefly: Jabber is pretty cool.
[05:04] <wyatt_earp> greetings ... has any ever experience really really slow login times (like 20sec from providing username to password prompt) ?
[05:04] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: via ssh?
[05:04] <Two-Six> hello
[05:04] <Blissex> wyatt_earp: apparently <wyatt_earp> has :-).
[05:04] <wyatt_earp> yeah
[05:04] <orangefly> where do you download it....???....
[05:05] <goqsane> Blissex, yeah, but what kind of filetype should I specify in the mount command then?
[05:05] <wyatt_earp> yes Blissex
[05:05] <Blissex> orangefly: use Synaptic or 'aptitude'
[05:05] <Blissex> goqsane: no 'mount' for writing.
[05:05] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: check your dns settings
[05:05] <goqsane> oh, wait, so what must I do then Blissex ?
[05:05] <goqsane> it's not mounted apparently
[05:05] <goqsane> but it asks me to put a blank CD and doesn't detect it inside I think
[05:05] <Blissex> wyatt_earp: anyhow all SSH issues are easy do diagnose with 'ssh -v -v', tells you exactly.
[05:05] <goqsane> (as I try to retry)
[05:05] <Blissex> goqsane: then eject and reinsert.
[05:06] <wyatt_earp> i'm ssh-ing to the IP address though ... would that still be a problem ?
[05:06] <goqsane> done that :/
[05:06] <goqsane> hmm
[05:06] <indypende> Blissex, if i mount the partition in /media/data , how can i make /media data readable and writeable for normal user?
[05:06] <Blissex> goqsane: otherwise you may have *two* writers and Nautilus is using the wrong one.
[05:06] <orangefly> ty....
[05:06] <Blissex> indypende: as I mentioned, 'chmod a+rwxt /media/data'
[05:06] <RedShift> wyatt_earp: no but check the dns settings on the remote host (the host you're connecting to)
[05:06] <illu45> hi
[05:06] <wyatt_earp> ok
[05:07] <stefg> indypende: sudo chmod 777 /media/data
[05:07] <stefg> this means anyone can delete your data
[05:07] <goqsane> nope still doesn't see the disc and I have chosen the right burner (I only have one)
[05:07] <goqsane> :/
[05:07] <elyon> Good morning.
[05:07] <Blissex> stefg: that's why I added 't' to the permissions.
[05:07] <indypende> thanks all
[05:07] <Two-Six> hello
[05:07] <wyatt_earp> right now ... no DNS is working on that system Blissex
[05:08] <indypende> thanks Blissex stefg
[05:08] <elyon> Could someone please point me in the right direction to get my 3D card performing better in Ubuntu?  Right now even Google Earth is too slow to be usable.
[05:08] <Two-Six> I need help with madwifi, does anybody her know anything about this
[05:08] <Blissex> elyon: bad news -- it is only feasible if you got NVIDIA or a very few other models.
[05:08] <wyatt_earp> err ... not working i mean Blissex
[05:08] <goqsane> oh well, I'll try playing around
[05:08] <pouderStream> guys any clue how to install flashplayer in opera.In FF is working fine. rel: EdgyEft
[05:08] <goqsane> maybe I'll plug it in as master
[05:08] <goqsane> and not slave
[05:08] <goqsane> or something
[05:08] <goqsane> :/
[05:08] <elyon> Blissex, so my Radeon is pretty useless in Linux?
[05:08] <Two-Six> in fact in need help with lots of stuff
[05:08] <Blissex> Two-Six: try #wireless, but MADwifi is a bit of a mess.
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: no, just a bit more complicated to setup.
[05:09] <elyon> ah
[05:09] <Two-Six> why do you say its a mess
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: the ATI drivers for GNU/Linux are not quite as good as the NVIDIA ones.
[05:09] <Blissex> elyon: anyhow look at this:
[05:09] <Blissex> !ati
[05:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:09] <Aoirthoir> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[05:09] <Aoirthoir> Just thought I would let yall know
[05:09] <Two-Six> I mean it totally defeats me, and it does seem to be pretty hard to get it to work and can be dangerous
[05:09] <elyon> Thanks, Blissex.
[05:11] <Two-Six> how do you leave and join another channel?
[05:11] <LjL> Two-Six: /part, and /join #channel
[05:11] <Two-Six> thanks /part
[05:12] <LjL> stefg: no, that's used to kick a random user. or at least that's what the -offtopic topic often says
[05:13] <stefg> yup, that's what i was thinking of
[05:13] <shriphani> guys i notice a few changes in source-o-matic
[05:14] <stefg> shriphani: me, too....
[05:14] <shriphani> where is the security.ubuntu.com repository ?
[05:14] <LjL> uhm... at security.ubuntu.com?
[05:14] <LjL> is that a trick question? :P
[05:14] <Infeliz> lol
[05:14] <Infeliz> !sources
[05:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:15] <Infeliz> !easysource
[05:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:15] <shriphani> LjL, i didnt see that in source o matic
[05:15] <k0> anyone know how to change the gnome-panel default names like "applications" "places"
[05:15] <k0> ??
[05:15] <maynard> hello all
[05:15] <KDan> ok, so i can't seem to get the wired connection working either. for some reason the light remains orange at the back of my laptop. dhclient of course finds nothing. iconfig looks fine, except it of course doesn't have the dhcp details...
[05:15] <LjL> shriphani: well, yeah, it misses -updates too for that matter. i think that should be fixed
[05:16] <KDan> this is a connection that would work fine if i was in windows, so not quite sure why it should just not work under ubuntu
[05:16] <shriphani> my sources.list disappeared when i was trying to compile ffmpeg from source
[05:16] <shriphani> source-o-matic offers 6 repos now
[05:17] <LjL> shriphani: well   deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:17] <LjL> (if you have universe and multiverse, that is)
[05:17] <n2diy> k0: yes, right click on them, and select prefrences.
[05:17] <shriphani> erm i am using dapper
[05:17] <maynard> Does any one have time to point me in the right direction for getting dual displays to work on the live CD?
[05:17] <n2diy> k0: yes, right click on them, and select preferences.
[05:17] <stefg> KDan: it was found that due to a timing problem during boot, the dhcp-request sometimes is mad before the interface is up... try a manual 'sudo dhclient' and see if you get a lease then
[05:17] <hikenboot> hello all---can anyone tell me what the advantage of using ltsp instead of just xnest sessions thru X window
[05:18] <k0> n2diy:there no options to select prefences
[05:18] <KDan> stefg: nerp. it tries a bunch of diferent "interval"s and then fails
[05:18] <KDan> all the while through it complains that "Network is down"
[05:18] <k0> but there is edit menu
[05:18] <tale_> with vim using Fedora it remembers the last place I edited in a file and when I reopen the file, it puts the cursor back on the last line that I edited.  Does anyone know what option this is that I need to enable?  Ubuntu doesn't enable it by default.
[05:18] <k0> but that doesnt have a way of editing the names
[05:19] <n2diy> k0: are you using Dapper?
[05:19] <k0> just to select what u want see to in the menu
[05:19] <k0> no edgy
[05:19] <indypende> Blissex, hi
[05:19] <kbg_20> hi! i just installed edgy..and am not happy with firefox 2..would like to downgrade to 1.5.. downloaded the tar and running from mozilla site. extracting and running the firefox executable inside that folder shows up the following error : "./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./firefox-bin: not found" while firefox-bin is well and truly there.. whats happening? :-/ am using edgy amd64
[05:19] <indypende> Blissex, i do the sudo chmod 777 /media/data
[05:20] <n2diy> k0: ok that explains it, another reason to stick with Dapper.
[05:20] <k0> thought u could use gconf-editor
[05:20] <indypende> Blissex, but i can't write on the directory as normal user
[05:20] <k0> but cant find anything helpfull
[05:20] <Blissex> indypende: it was almost the same but better to do 'sudo chmod a+rwxt /media/data'
[05:20] <shriphani> erm can some benevolent user pastebin me his sources.list (dapper)
[05:20] <[pwned] > HELP!!!!
[05:21] <Blissex> indypende: note that you said the filesystem was 'ext3'...
[05:21] <stefg> !easysource | shriphani
[05:21] <ubotu> shriphani: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:21] <indypende> Blissex, ext3
[05:21] <KDan> stefg: no other ideas?
[05:21] <diminthedam> Blissex: i reinstalled the grub, but now i cant get windows to load
[05:21] <Blissex> indypende: so it *must* work as indicated.
[05:21] <scheuri> hi all
[05:21] <Blissex> diminthedam: two lines:
[05:21] <stefg> KDan: firmware or driver not there?
[05:21] <[pwned] > how do i upgrade to 6.10 if i dont have a disk?
[05:21] <shriphani> stefg, erm i miss a few repos using source-o-matic
[05:21] <diminthedam> blissex: what does that mean?
[05:21] <shriphani> like security.blah blah
[05:22] <k0> blissex:not pointing to the right windows patiton
[05:22] <KDan> hmm
[05:22] <scheuri> anyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome?
[05:22] <diminthedam> blissex: ok, but how do i change it?
 anyone know "the" alternative for Konversation within Gnome? -->xchat
[05:22] <scheuri> meng: thanks
[05:22] <Blissex> diminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainload (hdN)+1'
[05:22] <Blissex> diminthedam: 'title MS Windows' and 'chainloader (hdN)+1'
[05:22] <stefg> shriphani: dapper or edgy?
[05:22] <diminthedam> blissex: where do i do this? in grub command line?
[05:23] <scheuri> anyone know if there is a chance to "convert" all mails and structure of Kmail to Evolution?
[05:23] <Blissex> diminthedam: '/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[05:23] <tale_> [pwned] , change /etc/apt/sources.list so that all occurrences of dapper are edgy.  Then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <shriphani> stefg dapper
[05:23] <Vegeta^> Does anyone know a good website filtering software? I tried seaching the Synaptic, but didn't find any.
[05:23] <stefg> k
[05:23] <kurei> hi, my java enterprise edition wont continue with its setup after executing the .bin... how do i go about?
[05:23] <tale_> Vegeta^,  squid
[05:23] <shadowhywind> i was wondering is there a easy way to upgrade from 32 to 64bit, without a full reinstall?
[05:23] <n2diy> scheuri: did you try import?
[05:23] <LjL> Vegeta^, what kind of 'filtering'?
[05:23] <kbg_20> shadowhywind, no
[05:24] <tale_> any vi experts in here?
[05:24] <mnoir> tale - yes but you might like #vim
[05:24] <scheuri> n2diy: as in import functions of Evolution? last time I checked there was no such option within Ubuntu 6.06 and its evolution...but I will check again
[05:24] <Vegeta^> LjL: Just blocking some certain websites (with password).
[05:24] <stefg> shriphani: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39336/ but point it away from the german mirrors... we are busy 'nuff over here :-)
[05:25] <Belisarivs> Hi. Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:25] <n2diy> scheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so it was just a guess.
[05:25] <tale_> mnoir, I just want to know what setting to have vim remember the last edit in a file so when I reopen the file it puts the cursor back on that line
[05:25] <drivera90> So what do I do on Ubuntu when I want to game?
[05:25] <shriphani> stefg, so i change the german thingies to us or something ?
[05:25] <mnoir> tale - i don't know - more reason to go to #vim :)
[05:25] <shriphani> like de to us
[05:25] <blizzkid> Hello all. I still didn't manage to get my sound working after googling for a month, and trying every single suggested "solution". Anyone in here could help me out?
[05:25] <scheuri> n2diy: ah, okay...well...I am using maildir...so...but i have quite a good structure within Kmail which I dont want to loose
[05:25] <kbg_20> hi! how do i run firefox 1.5 in edgy? I dont like ff 2 at all :(
[05:25] <stefg> shriphani: simply edit out all the de. prefixes
[05:26] <shriphani> ok stefg
[05:26] <elyon> Well, Blissex - no luck with that.  Followed the instructions but still doesn't work... thanks, though.
[05:26] <timbobsteve> hey all
[05:26] <n2diy> scheuri: ok, I don't use Evolution, so good luck.
[05:26] <tritium> !sound > blizzkid
[05:26] <scheuri> n2diy: thanks...;)
[05:26] <Infeliz> this channel dont work...million questions at the sam time
[05:26] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:26] <Zaggynl> What directories make up the linux OS?
[05:26] <diminthedam> blissex: where in menu.1st do i put those lines?
[05:27] <LjL> !dansguardian | Vegeta^, although it doesn't seem to do precisely what you want
[05:27] <ubotu> dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB
[05:27] <elyon> Zaggy, all of them :)
[05:27] <blizzkid> tritiu: thanks, but I've tried all of that too
[05:27] <Blissex> diminthedam: at the end usually.
[05:27] <Zaggynl> elyon, O.o apart from /home
[05:27] <blizzkid> tritium: thanks, but I've tried all of that too
[05:27] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, what makes you ask that may i know?
[05:27] <mnoir> Zaggynl: these -> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[05:27] <elyon> kbg - sounds like he's going to write a clevel "virus" that will delete those directorys? :)
[05:27] <[pwned] > tale_: it didnt work. i have a copy d/l but it wont run?
[05:28] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:28] <kbg_20> elyon, interesting idea ;) :D
[05:28] <KDan> ok, where are the modules i can insmod, on the ubuntu cd?
[05:28] <tale_> [pwned] , are you running dapper now?
[05:28] <LjL> Vegeta^: also i think most "normal" proxies will allow you to blacklist sites, though i don't know how many will let you set a password to still access them if you have it
[05:28] <[pwned] > yeah
[05:28] <orangefly> what's the best jabber client for a windows machine....???....
[05:29] <Vegeta^> LjL: I tried that, but couldn't succesfully install it due to some dependency problems.. Does Squid filter websites that way?
[05:29] <kbg_20> orangefly, i would say PSI
[05:29] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, friend of mine wonders how much ubuntu takes
[05:29] <Zaggynl> mnoir, thanks
[05:29] <aphexian> morning
[05:29] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, you mean a default install?
[05:29] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, yeah
[05:29] <waterpear> eh, a few gigs
[05:29] <LjL> Vegeta^: squid probably also makes the coffee for you... if you can configure it ;)
[05:29] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, around 2-2.5 gb i would say
[05:29] <[pwned] > tale_:how do i change to edgy?
[05:30] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, ah okay
[05:30] <tale_> [pwned] , please answer my question.  Are you running dapper right now
[05:30] <stefg> upgrade
[05:30] <stefg> !upgrade
[05:30] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:30] <[pwned] > tale_: yes
[05:30] <LjL> Vegeta^: proxies i've tried are wwwoffle and middleman. i think middleman has a few of that kind of options, and is relatively easy to setup, but IIRC it was a bit quirky
[05:30] <tale_> [pwned] , check out the instructions ubotu just mentioned
[05:31] <n2diy> !downgrade
[05:31] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[05:31] <sinisterguy> how do you blacklist modules in ubuntu?
[05:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sinisterguy about blacklist | sinisterguy, see the private message from Ubotu
[05:31] <nova> need help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...
[05:31] <[pwned] > tale_: i am thanks
[05:31] <Vegeta^> LjL: Hehe ok, I'll try that. Is there 3rd party softwares for linx that can block?
[05:31] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, is that including swap and all?
[05:31] <nova> need help with mic. Recording program states, my audio capture setting are invalid, and to correct them. It was working before, now it wont. I checked to make sure my mic is on. Still nothing...
[05:31] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, no...
[05:31] <Zaggynl> hmm
[05:31] <stefg> !repeat | nova
[05:31] <ubotu> nova: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:32] <scheuri> anyone ever tried to convert KMail (mails and structure in maildir format) to Evolution?
[05:32] <vincenz> Hello everyone
[05:32] <waterpear> Vegeta^, technically, pretty much all software is third party
[05:32] <LjL> Vegeta^, possibly. i normally just stay in the safe realm of the repositories.
[05:32] <kbg_20> Zaggynl, exclude swap and boot..comes to 2-2.5 gb approx
[05:32] <waterpear> in linux
[05:32] <sinisterguy> LjL: thanks
[05:32] <LjL> and yeah, waterpear has a point ;)
[05:32] <vincenz> Hello, Anyone know how I can get tvout(s-video) to work with an ATI card? Additionally, if I want sound, do I still need to use the headphones or can I also send this through the s-video cable?
[05:32] <Zaggynl> kbg_20, ah okay
[05:33] <Blissex> vincenz: bad news usually.
[05:33] <vincenz> Blissex: oh?
[05:33] <Blissex> vincenz: look at the Gatos project though.
[05:33] <aphexian> [vincenz]  what kind of outputs does the card have?
[05:33] <shadowhywind> isn't s-video just video no sound
[05:33] <vincenz> Ok, so how do I get image onto my s-video output?
[05:34] <aphexian> you should be able to run an s-video cable from your tv to your ati card
[05:34] <aphexian> thats what i'm doing too
[05:34] <aphexian> but you won't get sound
[05:34] <shadowhywind> i would think treat it as a external monitor and just cycle through monitors
[05:34] <pupcia> zsssa
[05:34] <vincenz> aphexian: what do you need to do to set it up?
[05:35] <maynard> hi all
[05:35] <aphexian> all i did was set up my computer as normal with a montiro
[05:35] <aphexian> monitor
[05:36] <diminthedam> blissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39338/
[05:36] <maynard> Is there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card?
[05:36] <aphexian> then i turned the system off and set up my tv with the s-video out
[05:36] <Blissex> diminthedam: you need just the second line and split over two. and with "n" replaced by the number of the MS Windows partition.
[05:37] <Blissex> diminthedam: wait a second for a better exple.
[05:37] <vincenz> aphexian: could I see a copy of your xorg.conf?
[05:38] <aphexian> vincenz: i didn't change the xorg file at all
[05:38] <vincenz> aphexian: not even to get two monitors?
[05:38] <aphexian> ohhhhh, sorry, i'm not running two monitors
[05:38] <Blissex> diminthedam: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/BootMenu#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[05:39] <aphexian> member:vincenz i'm just running ubuntu throught my tv
[05:39] <vincenz> aphexian: oh right, so how do you switch to tv mode?
[05:39] <vincenz> oh!
[05:39] <vincenz> But how do you switch the card to the tvout (s-video)?
[05:39] <diminthedam> blissex: ok, last question,
[05:39] <diminthedam> blissex: how do i find what nuber the wind part is?
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: anyhow you need to put '(hdN,M)+1' not use '+1' on the 'chainloader' line, just to be sure.
[05:40] <aphexian> vincenz: i didn't have to switch anything on the card. once the s-video cable was connected to the tv, i booted it up and everything worked fine
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: do 'fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'
[05:40] <Blissex> diminthedam: do 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd? | grep NTFS'
[05:41] <Belisarivs> Could anyone help me with Prism wifi card?
[05:41] <vincenz> alright
[05:41] <vincenz> b
[05:41] <Blissex> Belisarivs: it should ''just work''. Try #wireless too.
[05:41] <Blissex> diminthedam: what does that command say?
[05:42] <joth> Can someone help me
[05:42] <joth> please?
[05:42] <diminthedam> blissex: no response
[05:42] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: you don't have a MS Windows partition :-)
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: just in your imagination :-)
[05:42] <aphexian> joth: do you have a question?
[05:42] <maynard> Is there a relatively easy way to get dual displays working using the AMD64 live cd and an ATI card please?
[05:42] <diminthedam> blisex: but i do!
[05:42] <Blissex> diminthedam: try to do then 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the reslt to the pastebin.
[05:43] <joth> I'm trying to partition my hard disk to install Windows on it, but I'm not sure how to without losing all the data on my laptop at the moment.
[05:43] <Blissex> maynard: yes.
[05:43] <diminthedam> blissex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39340/
[05:43] <joth> I only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted.
[05:43] <Blissex> joth: if the disk has no free areas, bad news. It can be done, but you should not try to do it without a lot more knowledge.
[05:43] <maynard> Blissex:  :D  Can you point me in the right direction?
[05:43] <joth> Damn
 I only have one partition at the moment, which I can't change the size of while it's mounted. -->gparted live cd?
[05:44] <aphexian> joth: i've never had to do that but this link might help: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[05:44] <kbg_20> meng,  but joth will still lose data right?
[05:44] <joth> If I reduce the size of this partition, will it lose any of the data on it?
[05:44] <ward_> you can resize the partitions
[05:44] <Blissex> diminthedam: it is partition '/dev/hda3' and it is a FAT32 partition.
 meng,  but joth will still lose data right? --> safer method is using a proprietary tool
[05:45] <ozfrog> hello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?
[05:45] <J-_> my cpu is running at 50c, is that good? -.-
[05:45] <J-_> I don't think it is, but i could be wrong
[05:45] <Blissex> joth: if you like to live dangerously, use a liveCD ad <meng> suggests and resize it.
[05:45] <meng> esp with NTFS is concerned
[05:45] <mitch__> hey guys, i wonder if someone could help me with a problem...i just installed the kde desktop and my wireless connection won;t work anymore...any ideas?
[05:45] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:45] <ward_> mitch__; don't repeat
[05:45] <kbg_20> meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right?
[05:45] <Blissex> diminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader '(hd0,2)+1'
[05:45] <Blissex> diminthedam: so you would have 'chainloader (hd0,2)+1'
[05:46] <Blissex> kbg_20: not necessarily, but it is rather risky. Not totally reliable.
 meng, exactly.. with gparted/fdisk resizing WILL involve losing data right? --> kinda forgot parted use anyway, i've been using Partition Magic instead
[05:46] <kbg_20> Blissex, hmm..ok
[05:46] <ward_> mitch__: we need to know if its been detected type ifconfig and paste it to pastebin
[05:46] <kbg_20> meng, ok :)
[05:46] <sephirot1> hi, i have 2pcs connected together, but when I type ifconfig -a i cannot see the ethernet device.
[05:46] <sephirot1> Whats up with that? damaged hardware?
[05:47] <Blissex> kbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky.
[05:47] <Blissex> kbg_20: it often works well. Depends on the filesystem.
[05:47] <sephirot1> anyone? :(
[05:47] <meng> Blissex> kbg_20: 'parted' and 'gparted' will try to shrink the filesystem before shrinking the partition, but that is a bit tricky. --> start praying if ya do?
[05:47] <mitch__> ward : is there any reason that would change from installing the kde desktop...it was working fine before i installed it?
[05:47] <Blissex> meng: yes... :-)
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <derFlo> what command do i need to start gnuboy-sdl (is the pakage name)?
[05:48] <ward_> mitch__; perhaps you need to configure the device again through ifconfig?
[05:48] <kbg_20> I have one question about write access by non-root users to mounted fat partitions... I tried using "rw,users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true" as mount options in fstab but did not work..?
[05:48] <Henry|> Hey there guys
[05:48] <Henry|> Is anyone here not busy at the moment?
[05:48] <Henry|> I'm finally getting into a linux based distribution after sitting on the idea for a year or two
[05:48] <Henry|> and I decided to go with Ubuntu as my first
[05:48] <Blissex> derFlo: usually, repeat your question not more often than every 5 minutes...
[05:48] <vincenz> aphexian: So you're saying that if you plug in the s-video cable it works auttomatically? I'd still like to see your xorg.conf if possible
[05:48] <kbg_20> Henry|, great! a warm welcome :)
[05:48] <derFlo> Blissex: nobody wants to help me :(
[05:49] <androxxl> hello can someone help me with apt-get update I got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39319/
[05:49] <Henry|> Thanks, so anyways, here is my problem
[05:49] <sephirot1> Henry|: you took quite a long time sitting on it :P i just closed my eyes and dived into it :)
[05:49] <Henry|> After the initial splash screen after I hit (Where it says Start or install Ubuntu)
[05:49] <ambimom> henry: just talk in here LOL
[05:49] <Blissex> derFlo: you have to be patient and perhaps add more details to your question.
[05:49] <Henry|> it freezes on the loading screen
[05:49] <Henry|> where the bar bounces to the left and the right
[05:49] <diminthedam> blissex: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39341/
[05:49] <katarzyna> komercyjna
[05:49] <derFlo> Blissex: what details should you need?
[05:49] <erUSUL> androxxl: can you connect to other sites?
[05:49] <Henry|> I'm using an AMD 4400+ X2 64-Bit
[05:49] <ambimom> henry: after you press install?
 where the bar bounces to the left and the right --> are you on a high?
[05:49] <androxxl> yes
[05:49] <Henry|> I've tried the 32 bit and the 64 bit install
[05:49] <derFlo> Blissex: i ONLY want to know the command to start gnuboy-sdl..
[05:50] <Henry|> Meng: Nope
[05:50] <mitch__> ward: seems to be detected ok...there is no Network manager that come up though in kde
[05:50] <waterbear> derFlo, you want the command "sdlgnuboy"
[05:50] <Henry|> Ambimom: It's directly after the initial splash screen, but before you choose a language
[05:50] <Blissex> diminthedam: you don't need the 'root' and 'savedefault' lines, perhaps 'makeactive'.
[05:50] <siv0x> Can someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card?
[05:50] <ambimom> henry: the problem may be 64 bit
[05:50] <derFlo> waterbear: maybe ill check it
[05:50] <Henry|> I tried both images
[05:50] <derFlo> waterbear: yes thats it thanks
[05:50] <waterbear> derFlo, I prefer visualboyadvance for gameboy emulation though
 Can someone tell me the alsa or amixer command to set my Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS to my default sound card? --> disable offending card in BIOS
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: have you tried loading just the live cd?  what happens?
[05:51] <diminthedam> blissez: ok, replaced with 'makeactive'. will try a reboot
[05:51] <Henry|> By livecd, do you mean the CD on which I burned the .iso onto?
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: if the live cd works, then it should install
[05:51] <siv0x> meng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd.
[05:51] <ambimom> henry: just try to use the live cd ...change boot and boot into live cd
[05:51] <ozfrog> hello - can i set the " numbers lock " button to ON at boot -time somewhere?
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: then try the applications
[05:52] <siv0x> meng: i'm not really having much of a problem untill i try to use my headphones.
[05:52] <Henry|> Ambimom: When you say livecd, are you reffering to the CD I burned the image onto?
[05:52] <Music_Shuffle> yeah
 meng: its easier for me to do it this way, i just cant remember the cmd. --> so the case is you got SB card and you have mobo with sound?
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: yes that's a live cd
[05:52] <ambimom> henry: if you can use the applications before installing, try it
[05:52] <Henry|> Ambimom: Alrighty, that's what I did. Let me list the steps I did to boot from it leading up to the freeze :)
[05:52] <siv0x> meng: well, actually my sound is fine, just when i use headphones/mic its like they arent even plugged in.
[05:53] <ambimom> henry: first see if you can use the applications....it may not be compatible with your system
[05:53] <ambimom> henry: other linuxes might be better for 64 bit amd
[05:53] <Henry|> Ambimom: I restarted the computer and pressed F8 to bring up the bios. I then chose to boot from my optical disk in which my live cd resides in. That brought me to the splash screen of Ubuntu. After I hit "Start or install ubuntu" it freezes at the next loading screen
 checked the sound panel?
[05:53] <Henry|> Ambimom: How can I use the applications before installing?
 is all the offending volumes up and not muted?
[05:54] <ambimom> henry: yes you can use the applications before installing
[05:54] <siv0x> meng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal.
[05:54] <Henry|> Ambimom: how?
[05:54] <Theodor> Henry, reset your bios. I had that problem.
[05:54] <Theodor> Your screen is turning freaky white, yes?
 meng: were can i check this at, all i've checked is the alsamixer in terminal. --> i was refering to the GUI sound mixer, either in Gnome or KDE
[05:54] <Henry|> Theodor: It stopped freezing at the loading screen where the bar went from the left to the right?
[05:54] <ambimom> henry: see the applications icon at the top of the screen?
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy 64 works fine for almost everything. ./Shrug.
[05:55] <Henry|> Theodor: With the 32 bit installation the colors are normal but it freezes afte rthe splash screen. On the 64 bit installation the colors are black and white
[05:55] <Henry|> Ambimom: I'm currently in windows
[05:55] <Henry|> I'm trying to install it on my second hard drive
[05:55] <siv0x> meng: oh. no i've not checked that.
[05:55] <ambimom> henry:  you can't
[05:55] <katarzyna>
[05:55] <ambimom> henry:  you can dual boot on your primary
[05:55] <katarzyna> aplikacja
[05:55] <Music_Shuffle> You can if you change boot order, can't you?
[05:56] <ambimom> henry:  first see if ubuntu is compatible with your system...boot into cd again and try the applications
[05:56] <diminthedam> blissex: that worked a charm! thanks a million!
[05:56] <Henry|> Ambimom: I can't get to the desktop
[05:56] <Henry|> I can only get to the splash screen
[05:56] <ambimom> ozfrog:  he's noobie
[05:56] <Blissex> diminthedam: good, good!
[05:57] <ambimom> henry: are you using cd? or image of cd?
[05:57] <ozfrog> ambimom I.C just arived
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, so when you boot the LiveCD, you only get to the splash screen?
[05:57] <Henry|> I'm using a CD
[05:57] <Henry|> Music: Yup
[05:57] <ambimom> henry:  you change the boot order of your computer?
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> Err...stupid question perhaps, but how long have you waited?
[05:57] <Henry|> Ambimom: If you mean by booting from my optical drive (so itll boot from disk) yes
[05:57] <Music_Shuffle> If he hadn't, he wouldn't see the splash...
[05:58] <Henry|> Is there anyway to boot on my second hard drive so I can install Ubuntu on that one?
[05:58] <ambimom> henry: and you can't get to the desktop?
[05:58] <Henry|> Ambimom: Nope
[05:58] <Henry|> Ambimom: I presume that is after the splash screen
[05:58] <siv0x> meng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ?
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Yes
[05:58] <ambimom> henry: then your iso is defective or you can't use ubuntu on your system
[05:58] <javb> Installed Xgl/Compiz .. didnt like it.. removed it and placed the backup files (xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom) to their original place. but when starting GDM, it says "No servers were defined in the configuration file and XDMCP was disable. This can only be a configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed logins are disable." Any idea why this is appearing. I hi
[05:58] <Music_Shuffle> Splash --> Desktop
[05:58] <javb> t ENTER on that message and starts normally. just with a weird login manager. (Ubuntu Edgy)
[05:58] <Henry|> Music: Ah
[05:59] <calvarez> ubotu, flash
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 meng: would it be something like asoundconf list  then asound set-default-card <card> ? --> go ask someone else then, i could help in GUI space though
[05:59] <ambimom> henry: if you're in the desktop....try to use applications
[05:59] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, and you've tried >1 disk and you're burning the iso's correctly?
[05:59] <Henry|> Ambimom: Yeah, no luck there because I can't get to the desktop
[05:59] <Music_Shuffle> He can't get into the desktop...
[05:59] <martoss> how can i disable the check size_t is signed while running configure?
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: I first accidently used a CD image with a DVD. That didn't boot at all. Then I tried the 32 bit image. That froze after splash screen during loading
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: I then tried the 64 bit image with a CD
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: Same freezing point, but black and white colors
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> Hmm.
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: My CPU is a AMD 4400+ X2 64
[06:00] <siv0x> meng: its fine, i got it, but were can i locate the GUI space at?
[06:00] <Music_Shuffle> How long have you waited at the splash btw?
[06:00] <apixelatedoffice> hello, I'm having a hard time with my sound configuration... I have what looks like a fancy sound card in the back... and a mic and phone in the front of my computer.  Anyways, I'll start with a simple question... which is going to utilize my sound for "live mixing" on my computer?... device via 8237 (Alsa mixer) ... OR realtek ALC850 rev 0 (OSS mixer)... I don't care about drivers or anything, I just want to know which devic
[06:00] <apixelatedoffice> e can "do the most"... like, which device is more expensive and better technology.  thanks in advance.
[06:00] <Henry|> Music: You mean to wait for the counter to go down to 0 if I dont touch anything?
Gnome or KDE?
[06:01] <Henry|> :D
[06:01] <Henry|> Sorry for the hassle
[06:01] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, like...if you click, nothing happens as well?
[06:01] <siv0x> meng: KDE
[06:01] <ambimom> henry: it's probably 64 bit that is causing problem, but others have installed it okay...i just not able to help
[06:02] <mluser-work> anybody know when ubuntu plans to update clamav, mine has been complaining for two weeks that its out of date
[06:02] <ambimom> henry:  good luck though
[06:02] <Henry|> Music: Just so we're on the same page (I may not be)
[06:02] <Henry|> Thanks
[06:02] <Theodor> Henry|, have you downloaded the AMD version ?
lower right hand, there's this speaker icon? isnt?
[06:02] <Henry|> Music: The splash screen is when it says "Check CD for errors" or "Memory" or "Start or Install Ubuntu" right?
[06:02] <ambimom> theodor:  yikes, that's probably it!
[06:02] <Henry|> Theodor: Yup
[06:02] <Henry|> Yeah, I did
[06:02] <ward_> Henry|: you can always try gentoo
right clicky on that and pop the option for the mixer
[06:02] <Music_Shuffle> Doesn't really matter, the edgy kernel is the !generic one.
[06:02] <Theodor> Man, your problem is the exact copy of mine when I was trying to install Ubuntu.
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: Heh
[06:03] <libervisco> Where is the gnashplugin in Ubuntu gnash package?
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: What's your CPU?
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> Henry|, have you tried...the alternate install CD?
[06:03] <siv0x> meng: k i found it
[06:03] <Henry|> Music: Alternate install CD?
[06:03] <libervisco> or.. how do I install gnash in firefox?
[06:03] <Theodor> All I did is I reset the bios, it was something that has to do with the resolution.
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> Yes.
[06:03] <Henry|> Music: I'm not familiar with it
[06:03] <siv0x> meng: any control i need to turn up just to get my headset working right? or lower maybe too
[06:03] <Theodor> Intel Centrino 1.7 GHZ.
[06:03] <Henry|> Theodor: I am running in wide screen, if that's making any difference
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> There's an alternate install that's primarily text-based if I'm not mistaken.
[06:03] <Swede> how do I configure ubuntu to send audio to the coaxial s/pdif contact?
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> I'd say try that one, you might be able to get that working.
[06:03] <Henry|> Will do
 check if wave and master is up
[06:03] <Theodor> Henry|, my installation WORKED when I resotred it to wide screen ;p
[06:03] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:04] <apixelatedoffice> aside from the drivers, which is better technology... my realtek OSS mixer ... OR my via ALSA mixer?
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: Heh
[06:04] <Theodor> When I had it smaller, it never worked.
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: What was your exact problem, CPU, and ISO used?
[06:04] <Henry|> Theodor: Did you get a black and white screen when using a 64 bit iso, even though your CPU is 64 bit?
[06:04] <Theodor> I was installing the 32bit.
[06:05] <Henry|> ah
[06:05] <Henry|> What CPU do you have?
[06:05] <siv0x> meng: they are
[06:05] <Theodor> Whatever I chose, I had my computer crash and the monitor went white with freaky effects.
[06:05] <Henry|> yikes
[06:05] <Theodor> Intel Centrino 1.7 GHZ "laptop"
[06:05] <Henry|> 32 bit?
[06:05] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[06:05] <Theodor> ouip
[06:05] <gansinho> please, how do I save the output of a command in a .txt file, for example the output of dmesg, which is very large
[06:05] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:06] <Swede> how do I configure ubuntu to use the digital sound output?
[06:06] <Theodor> gansinho, use |
[06:06] <n2diy> gansinho: dmesg is a text file.
 is the speaker icon below each one has no big cross on it?
[06:06] <Henry|> So will it be possibile to boot up Ubuntu in Disc D, while Windows is in Disc C?
[06:06] <Swede> hmm, perhaps i should get some drivers for my motherboard...
sry, above
[06:06] <Henry|> so I won't have to partition anything
[06:06] <Theodor> Henry|, yes. That's what I did.
[06:07] <siv0x> meng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Como?
[06:07] <Music_Shuffle> Assuming yo uhave enough space, yeah.
[06:07] <Theodor> Como ?
[06:07] <slacker_nl> gansinho: dmesg > output saved or dmesg | less
[06:07] <Henry|> Music: shouldn't be a problem
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: How :p
[06:07] <Theodor> HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Is it pretty straight forward after the splash screen?
[06:07] <Theodor> Henry|, yes.
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: Will it just ask me what drive I want to install it to?
[06:07] <gansinho> n2diy, I want to do something like "dmesg xyz name" and doing that, instead of seeing the output in the terminal, it would save for me in a txt file named "name"
[06:07] <Henry|> Theodor: The only OS I have installed are just windows and mac
 meng: i'm having no trouble with sound, accept when i use my headset i get a little static, and my mic doesnt work --> do the same, cept this time for the Mic options
[06:07] <Maheanuu> Are there any Raid5 people in here this morning?
[06:07] <Theodor> yeah baby
[06:07] <Henry|> Alrighty
[06:07] <Theodor> you need 2 have 2 though. One for swap, the other for the root /
[06:07] <Gacoment> hello
[06:08] <Theodor> you need to have 2***
[06:08] <Henry|> Absolutely no idea what you mean by that, but alright
[06:08] <Theodor> sorry, my finger tips are freezing.
[06:08] <n2diy> gansinho: look in /var/log and you should see dmesg stored there.
 do keep the mute on tho, no one loves echos, cept maybe hippies on a high
[06:08] <gansinho> n2diy, thanks
[06:08] <n2diy> ganadist: nada
[06:08] <siv0x> meng: lmao
[06:08] <Theodor> Any of you know where I can find a decent C++ compiler ?
[06:09] <LjL> !gcc | Theodor
[06:09] <ubotu> Theodor: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:09] <siv0x> meng: not sure, um can i just pm you and we can talk about this, this is so annoying
[06:09] <nova> Ok, my recording program captures my voice, but in teamspeak no one hears me...? any thoughts?
[06:09] <fromvega> Yo guys
[06:09] <Gacoment> Boy, what's the difference between Xgl and Xgl CVS?
[06:09] <Theodor> mewh, I want to write C++ programs ...
[06:09] <Maheanuu> I am trying to get dapper to recognize a bios created raid5 array, and it isn't showing a multidisk
[06:09] <LjL> Theodor: GCC is the GNU Compiler Collection, including a C compiler, a C++ compilers and others, and it's certainly considered much more than 'decent' by most
[06:09] <vincenz> yes it is
[06:09] <Theodor> I see, thanks.
[06:09] <vincenz> especially from 4.0
[06:09] <n2diy> Gacoment: CVS stands for Concurrent Versioning System, it is the latest version.
[06:09] <fromvega> Anybody knows the comand with the "alt" key, to make a "?" ?  eg. release "alt" + [somenumber]
[06:10] <LjL> Theodor: all programs you have on your system that were written in C++ were compiled using GCC (specifically, G++ is the GCC C++ compiler)
[06:10] <Theodor> Interesting.
[06:10] <n2diy> fromvega, google fo ascii codes.
[06:10] <n2diy> fromvega, google for ascii codes.
[06:11] <Theodor> fromvega, go to your Character map
[06:11] <Theodor> you can find everything there.
[06:11] <Gacoment> n2diy, is it stable?
[06:12] <n2diy> Gacoment: maybe, it is experimental, bugs get fixed quickly.
[06:12] <fromvega> I'm asking it coz my keyboard, after the ubuntu installation, the key "?/" is not working, just this key, this is not the keyboard coz i've tested some, and appears the same problem. Anyone knows a solution for it?
[06:12] <Theodor> Okay, this is a really stupid question but how can I download GCC?
[06:12] <Gacoment> n2diy, very well, thanks :D
[06:12] <Theodor> I go to mirror sites and then what ?
~uguuuuuu, see PM
[06:13] <mascanho> anyone using macmenu applet for gnome ?
[06:13] <n2diy> Theodor: click on system-admin-synaptic, search for gcc, mark it for install, and then click on apply.
[06:14] <yccheok> hi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[06:14] <Theodor> n2diy, my Ubuntu box is not connected to the Internet.
[06:14] <uu> hi, can anybody help: kernel crash when doing suspend to ram _second_ time (possibly hotplug cpu problem?) ?
[06:14] <n2diy> Theodor: Bummer.
[06:14] <calvarez> question! after installing the Adobe Flash plugin for firefox, firefox now crashes whenever I go to a flash site (I tried youtube and homestarrunner). Any ideas?
[06:15] <kris> siema
[06:15] <kris> jest ktos  polski
[06:15] <LjL> Theodor: it's explained in the page Ubotu gave you. you need to install the build-essential package.
[06:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Theodor about software | Theodor, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:15] <TooR4u> hi i want to change my samba passwd ... But it is displaying the error ""Could not connect to machine <IP_ADDRESS>: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[06:15] <TooR4u> Failed to change password for sri
[06:15] <TooR4u> what is the problem?
[06:15] <n2diy> Theodor: can you get a friend to do that for you, then you could grab his .deb, and move it to your machine?
[06:16] <Pirate-king> good question calvarez
[06:16] <LjL> !offline | Theodor
[06:16] <ubotu> Theodor: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[06:16] <Theodor> Okay, thanks LjL.
[06:16] <Theodor> Time to read =)
[06:16] <Swede> how do you remove the loginscreen, login in automaticly without writing password and gaining all administator rights?
[06:16] <dredhammer> hello seasons greetings, i'm trying to install Edgy on a desktop but there is a problem , its one of the older motherboards that doesn't have a built in lan adapter so it uses wireless networking and for some reason the live disk does not recognize the adapter (its a linksys wireless usb adapter)
[06:16] <Gacoment> n2diy, i am dapper. I find this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253. is it good?
[06:16] <Gacoment> *have
[06:16] <Gacoment> :p
[06:17] <JosefK> !root > Swede
[06:17] <n2diy> Gacoment: let me take a look at it.
[06:17] <Music_Shuffle> 'I am dapper' XD
[06:17] <Infeliz> yes u are dapper
[06:17] <Gacoment> :D
[06:17] <Gacoment> excuse me , but i am italian
[06:17] <Gacoment> :p
[06:17] <skukza> dredhammer, you need to install drivers for wireless to work using ndiswrapper
[06:17] <skukza> google it
[06:17] <Swede> huh, writing that in a terminal or what?
[06:17] <dredhammer> how am i to install if theres no internet connection to get the ndswrapper?
[06:17] <yccheok> hi, anyone here familiar with launchpad?
[06:17] <LjL> Swede: how to ask for trouble, in other words? https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/tr/desktop-tips.html
[06:18] <Maheanuu> I have been working almost 2 weeks trying to set up a raid array and install Dapper on it, but when dapper starts the install, it sees each drive individually, and not as a multidisc array...  I have not been able to get past this as it keeps installing on hda
[06:18] <LjL> Swede: writing what in terminal?
[06:18] <duncan_> Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.
[06:18] <cacti> is there support for direct rendering for an ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X ? I've searched the wiki and forums, and I don't see much information. Running Dapper Drake
[06:18] <dredhammer> does the edgy disc come with ndiswrapper?
[06:18] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[06:18] <Maheanuu> If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate a pm so that we could walk thru this together
[06:18] <dredhammer> so just doing apt-get would install?
[06:19] <n2diy> Gacoment: I'm not familiar with XGL, just CVS, that is why I answered your CVS question.
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> !ndiswrapper
[06:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> dredhammer, looked for it in Synaptic?
[06:19] <krups> amd64 edgy - eclipse package not working.
[06:19] <skukza> he diesnt have access to the internet without it irconic eh
[06:20] <Gacoment> n2diy, i have ati x700 mobility! is it work?
[06:20] <n2diy> Gacoment: I don't know, I don't know anything about XGL.
[06:20] <ceacro> hello world
[06:21] <Swede> hello ceacro
[06:21] <ceacro> you are so kind
[06:21] <Gacoment> n2diy, but xgl has potenzial graphic use :P
[06:22] <dredhammer> i don't kknow if it is in the edgy standard disc or if i might need to download the edgy dvd to have it
[06:22] <n2diy> Gacoment: good for it!?
[06:22] <ceacro> what version of ubuntu do you have folks?
[06:22] <Music_Shuffle> Edgy 64.
[06:23] <ceacro> I see
[06:23] <n2diy> Dapper
[06:23] <ceacro> I have MEPIS
[06:23] <Gacoment> n2diy, yes i am interesting to activate the potenzial cube
[06:23] <Gacoment> XD
[06:23] <siv0x> anyone knwo how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?
[06:23] <ceacro> it is a mixed ubuntu
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> Gacoment, no AIGLX?
[06:23] <ceacro> with Debian
[06:23] <Gacoment> Music_Shuffle, i have dapper :p
[06:23] <duncan_> Hello: I'v just downloaded 2,3GB zip file and when trying to unzip it I get error:  invalid compressed data to inflate. Please tell me there is some way to fix it despite downloading it again.
[06:23] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh nvm then.
[06:24] <ceacro> I have tried a lot of distros around
[06:24] <ceacro> this is the best to me
[06:24] <n2diy> Gacoment: good luck, I can't help you.
[06:25] <siv0x> I just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.
[06:25] <ceacro> SIMPLY MEPIS can be downloades from its own home site
[06:25] <siv0x> Can anyone help me set this up?
[06:25] <lcatta> I am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
[06:25] <Gacoment> n2diy, are there multilanguage translations for ubuntu ?
 si senor
[06:25] <n2diy> ubotu Italian
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <Gacoment> no
[06:26] <n2diy> ubotu language
[06:26] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <LjL> !italian is <alias> it
[06:26] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[06:26] <LjL> anyway that wasn't italian
[06:26] <Swede> great, now it wont boot, get error 21 when grub is loading
[06:26] <Gacoment> n2diy, exsist programm for traduction in multilanguage?
[06:26] <n2diy> ubotu: italian
[06:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:26] <ceacro> yes of course
[06:27] <siv0x> anyone know how to setup a mic/headset that could help me out?
[06:27] <siv0x> I just installed Teamspeak and i cant hear anyones mic, my mic is like its muted and my headset sounds aweful, the bass is going through my subwoofer instead of coming through my headset.
time to stop smoking weed?
[06:28] <siv0x> meng: Never
[06:28] <JosefK> has anyone managed to get TRAMP working with emacs-snapshot?
[06:28] <ceacro> trivia questionnarie
[06:28] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> Err...what does that relate? Lol.
[06:28] <JosefK> it seems to ignore all flavours of emacs that aren't GNU emacs21
[06:29] <ceacro> what is the main advantage of having linux installed on the HH?
[06:29] <lcatta> I am trying to get my wireless card working, and when I run lshw to see if the device is there it is listed, but it is listed as DISABLED. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
[06:29] <Gacoment> n2diy, in the italian chan they are bullshit
[06:30] <LjL> !language | Gacoment
[06:30] <ubotu> Gacoment: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:30] <ceacro> it is very simple
[06:30] <JosefK> no emacs bods in here *sighs*
[06:30] <Gacoment> LjL, language?
[06:30] <LjL> Gacoment: "bullshit" is not a nice word.
[06:30] <lord_nicon> Hi all
[06:30] <ceacro> the main advantage of having LINUX installed on the hard disk is:......
[06:30] <n2diy> Gacoment: I can't do anything about that.
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> Hi0.
[06:30] <Gacoment> yes i know it
[06:30] <Gacoment> :p
[06:30] <ceacro> VIRUS FREE LOL
[06:30] <lord_nicon> I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:31] <Nap> hi
[06:31] <Gacoment> n2diy, you create a virus for them pc
[06:31] <LjL> Gacoment: well, don't use swear words here.  anyway if you need help and can't speak english well, query me, and i will translate
[06:31] <lord_nicon> I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:31] <ceacro> habla en espaol pues
[06:31] <LjL> !es | ceacro
[06:31] <ubotu> ceacro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:31] <n2diy> Gacoment: I can't do anything about that either.
[06:32] <Gacoment> LjL, ok
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Again: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:32] <lord_nicon> q;
[06:32] <ceacro> 2nd question
[06:32] <ceacro> what is AUTOMATIX?
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> !automatix
[06:32] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Can any1 help me?
[06:32] <Gacoment> n2diy, i can it, but you know translator programm for ubuntu?
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> lord_nicon, err...with what again?
[06:32] <lord_nicon> Again: I got problem, I got Kubuntu for 64-bit PC... Ale I wan't to install Wine, is it possible?
[06:32] <ceacro> very good
[06:32] <lord_nicon> With that Music_Shuffle
[06:33] <ceacro> Congratulations !!!
[06:33] <n2diy> Gacoment: no I don't.
[06:33] <Gacoment> ok
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> You want to...install Wine on 64-bit Kubuntu?
[06:33] <ceacro> 3rd question
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Is it?
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Yep
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Yes its possible.
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Can U help me? (:
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> Check the forums, I saw a guide a day or so ago.
[06:33] <Music_Shuffle> :o
[06:33] <lord_nicon> Can U gave me an address?
[06:33] <lord_nicon> (of forum)
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> No idea, you'll have to forum search a bit
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> Oh.
[06:34] <ceacro> what is the name of the next UBUNTU version?????
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> http://kubuntuforums.net/
[06:34] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty
[06:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <lord_nicon> Thx Music_Shuffle
[06:34] <ceacro> very good
[06:34] <selinuxium> hi all, Has anyone set up racoon ipsec and kvpnc ? I am trying to install racoon but I am getting module not found errors.
[06:34] <ceacro> 4th question
[06:35] <ceacro> what is the meaning of GNU????
[06:35] <LjL> ceacro: GNU is Not Unix
[06:35] <mnoir> gnu's not unix
[06:36] <n2diy> ceacro: GNU stands for GNU Not Unix.
[06:36] <ceacro> congratulations folks
[06:36] <henzo> hello
[06:36] <mnoir> without the 's, you are not correct.
[06:36] <gOldZahN> what program to open .run?
[06:36] <ceacro> this trivia questionnarie is for you....
[06:36] <henzo> hey boys!!!
[06:37] <siv0x> meng: ima go smoke another joint
[06:37] <henzo> someone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish??
[06:37] <ceacro> what do you use the command "alien" for?
[06:37] <n2diy> ! spanish
[06:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:37] <henzo> thanks
[06:37] <skukza> ceacro, converting rpms to debs
[06:37] <aphexian> ceacro: to phone home
[06:37] <mnoir> ceacro: I don't
[06:37] <ceacro> terrific.......
[06:37] <ceacro> super
[06:37] <SeanTater> Is there a way to cut down on digikam's space usage?
[06:38] <gOldZahN> which program can open .run files?
 someone knows, how i can translate grub into spanish?? -->comer comida?
[06:38] <n2diy> skukza: Alien converts them.
[06:38] <dsquare> my gnome display panel crashed, but gimp is running, and i have unsaved art can anyone tell me how to get it please??
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> gOldZahN: What are they for?  Chances are you don't need to.
[06:38] <skukza> n2diy, thats what he asked
[06:39] <gOldZahN> tonyyarusso, its my gfx driver^^
[06:39] <n2diy> skukza: I missed the question.
[06:39] <skukza> :P
[06:40] <lord_nicon> g2g
[06:40] <SeanTater> gOldZahN: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=RUN -- It sounds like something for windows machines --
[06:40] <lord_nicon> bb all
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> gOldZahN: iirc, .run is a self-extracting executable, so you chmod +x it and then ./file.run - just make sure there's not a packaged version somewhere.
[06:40] <lord_nicon> Thks 4 help again Music_Shuffle and c U!
[06:40] <siv0x> mnoir; sure you dont :P
[06:40] <skukza> g0ldZahn, is it ati drivers?
[06:40] <Music_Shuffle> GL :)
[06:41] <mnoir> i have not met an .rpm in a long time that i needed
[06:41] <SeanTater> mnoir: early OO.o betas only came in rpm, that's the only reason I've used them
[06:43] <mnoir> since most developers these days are packaging properly, the build processes are strong and using rh stuff is not that necessary :)
[06:43] <siv0x> mnoir: i needed an rpm earlier and i couldnt figure it out, i had to look it up
[06:43] <Vegeta^> In this guide about webpage filtering: http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/06/23/1521209.shtml , after I typed the commands with the 'iptables' under the section "Putting it in action", I can't acces the internet anymore. Can I "undo" those commands?
[06:43] <dsquare> anyone?
[06:44] <dsquare> can anyone tell me how to revive gimp?
[06:44] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: do this --> sudo iptables -F
[06:44] <dsquare> its still running but it's in the background somewhere
[06:44] <skukza> hmm
[06:44] <troughton> i am trying to get wow working through wine but am getting an error because of opengl i have my native graphics drivers installed but open gl seems to be broken how do i fix it ??
[06:44] <skukza> ive enabled the multiverse repositories
[06:44] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: it will kill the security in iptables but you should be able to access the internet
[06:44] <dsquare> omg i found it
[06:44] <dsquare> it was on another workspace.
[06:44] <dsquare> sry
[06:44] <mnoir> dsquare: tough situation - you might look for tmp files in /tmp
[06:45] <mnoir> oic - good!
[06:45] <dsquare> thanks mnoir i will remember that if i ever lose gimp..
[06:45] <dsquare> :)
[06:45] <Vegeta^> SeanTater: That didn't help, I still can't acces. "Unable to connect"...
[06:45] <mnoir> prolly nothing was actually broke :)
[06:45] <mnoir> DONT LOSE IT
[06:45] <mnoir> sorry - emphasis
[06:45] <dsquare> not at all i misclicked i think or it just got put on a diff space when gnome restarted.
[06:45] <dsquare> im gonna go save my art now.. :)
[06:45] <mnoir> :)
[06:46] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: then in each command, replace -A with -D (append to delete) to get rid if the commands
[06:46] <Alakazamz0r> http://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=1215&c=&t=k&hl=en&ll=55.957443,-3.311411&z=17
[06:46] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: pastebin-ing the output of sudo iptables -L would help too
[06:47] <mnoir> Vegeta^: if the -F didnt work, the -D prolly wont either.  Did you just use commandline or did you store the commands for reuse?
[06:47] <mnoir> or is there something else you didn't tell us you did :)
[06:48] <Vegeta^> mnoir: It did work.
[06:48] <mnoir> oh ok...
[06:48] <mnoir> so you're whole again?
[06:48] <fromvega> Hello
[06:48] <Vegeta^> mnoir , SeanTater: The following command was the problem: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 , why did it block everything?
[06:48] <SeanTater> mnoir: In the back of my mind I was thinking the same thing -- quite surprising that -d worked
[06:49] <fromvega> I have added rules to iptables and changed ip_forward to 1. Now, how do I make them permanent, so they remain the same after a reboot?
[06:49] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: because squid is not working correctly or is not on
[06:49] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: every web connection (http / WWW) was redirected to yourself
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: but squid did not make new connections
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: so there was no data
[06:50] <Vegeta^> SeanTater: Ok. How do I start squid? It doesn't quit say how.
[06:50] <Vegeta^> ok..
[06:50] <fromvega> Vegeta^: /etc/init.d/squid start
[06:50] <pterk> Hi. I moved an debian sarge box to ubuntu server (dapper) a while ago. Now I need to hook up a USB-harddisk (which was used from time to time on sarge) but /etc/hotplug is missing. I tried 'apt-get install usbmgr module-init-tools udev' but to no avail. Doen anyone have an idea how to resolve this?
[06:50] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: To be truthful , I don't know -- I spend more time with iptables than squid
[06:51] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: I just knoe squid did not do it's job and that you should not use that until squid works
[06:51] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: *know*
[06:51] <troughton> i have my native nvidia installed but need opengl running and wine says it is not working can anyone help ??
[06:52] <SeanTater> Vegeta^: what fromvega said
[06:52] <erUSUL> !info hotplug dapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Package hotplug does not exist in dapper
[06:52] <erUSUL> !info usbmnrg dapper
[06:52] <ubotu> Package usbmnrg does not exist in dapper
[06:53] <erUSUL> !info usbmgr dapper
[06:53] <ubotu> usbmgr: user-mode daemon which loads/unloads USB kernel modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-4 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 244 kB
[06:53] <Vegeta^> fromvega: I get [fail] ...
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> anyone tried to debootstrap edgy recently (i386)? I get this: W: Failure trying to run: chroot /media/Seagate120/thick dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.4-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[06:53] <fromvega> Vegeta^: try stop, then start
[06:54] <fromvega> SeanTater: how do I make changes in iptable permanent? So the rules remain after a reboot?
[06:54] <giskard_> j #telepathy
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: no, they do not, at least not in ubuntu or debian, to my knowledge
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: but I make a script so that it does
[06:54] <fromvega> SeanTater: yes I know, but how do I do that?]
[06:54] <SeanTater> fromvega: *made*
[06:54] <J-_> giskard_: hrm
[06:55] <fromvega> SeanTater: hum... and where you put the script?
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> ah, apparently I need to bind /dev to my chroot dest before debootstrapping.
[06:55] <giskard_> J-_, sorry i forgot /
[06:55] <SeanTater> fromvega: in /etc/init.d, and the rc.S folders
[06:55] <SeanTater> fromvega: init executes it as you boot up, and it loads the rules from a file
[06:55] <kane77> hi...
[06:55] <J-_> no prob lol =)
[06:55] <siv0x> can someone maybe help me get wine installed with synaptic?
[06:56] <kane77> how can I upgrade gnome?? (im running dapper with gnome 2.14)
[06:56] <KDan> !themes
[06:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:56] <der0b> maybe I'm just a fool, can anyone tell me how to change the local in gdesklets?  I can't for the life of me find where..
[06:56] <SeanTater> fromvega: I set mine up so it saves it at shutdown, meaning it seamlessly makes iptables changes persist without manually saving
[06:56] <der0b> *locale
[06:56] <kane77> siv0x, just type sudo apt-get install wine
[06:56] <troughton> is there a way to get opengl working with the nvidia drivers
[06:57] <SeanTater> troughton: as in the binary ones?
[06:57] <fromvega> SeanTater: can you show me how do you do that?
[06:57] <SeanTater> troughton: opengl works fine for me, but I use debian (etch) at the moment, so it's probably not exactly the same
[06:57] <Vegeta^> fromvega: It's the same thing. What does this mean: "/etc/init.d/squid: line 64:  7084 Aborted" ? And the number (here 7084) keeps changing on every try.
[06:57] <troughton> SeanTater i am trying to get world of warcraft working in wine all installed well but when i try to run it it says opengl not present
[06:57] <SeanTater> fromvega: do you want the script?
[06:58] <SeanTater> troughton: wine may be the culprit -- I have no experience with it though -- sorry
[06:58] <helplol> *sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?
[07:00] <siv0x> kane77: okay i got it installed, where can i find the program at now?
[07:00] <fromvega> SeanTater: it would be grate! can you send it to me?
[07:00] <SeanTater> fromvega: do this -> cd /etc/init.d && sudo wget http://clancy.homelinux.com/iptables.sh <-- to get the script
[07:00] <kane77> siv0x, run winecfg
[07:00] <kane77> siv0x, I'll be right back
[07:01] <zRaf> hello all
[07:01] <Vegeta^> fromvega: It is stated "To get the filtering started, you can now enter the following commands: "service squid restart", "service dansguardian restart"" but they aren't commands. Where do I type them?
[07:01] <zRaf> I need to run a shell script in Ubuntu, but I can't so it
[07:01] <siv0x> kane77: k
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: then this --> chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:01] <Swede> anyone knows how to fix grub eroores?
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: oops
[07:01] <SeanTater> fromvega: not that last one
[07:02] <SeanTater> fromvega: this instead --> sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:02] <Swede> erorrs
[07:02] <zRaf> I created the file, write down my commands, chmod 755'ed, then ./myscript and it says "Permission denied", please help
[07:02] <helplol> *sigh* anyone know why i installed gentoo, took off the partitions in ubuntu, and now i cant login to windows with a "GRUB error"?
[07:03] <Swede> what error do you get helplol?
[07:03] <helplol> i get a 22 error
[07:03] <mnoir> helplol: do you now intend no linux, only win?
[07:03] <SeanTater> zRaf: are you sure the commands in the file have permissions (as opposed to the script)
[07:03] <zRaf> it runs if I write "bash ./myscript" or "sh ./myscript"
[07:03] <helplol> no i intend on installing ubuntu
[07:03] <SeanTater> zRaf: okay
[07:03] <helplol> im still very eagar to use linux
[07:03] <fromvega> SeanTater: tks, I'll read it! and what about start, stop, does it have these commands?
[07:03] <Swede> i get 21
[07:03] <zRaf> SeanTater: yes, because the only commands that I have is "echo 'hallo'"
[07:03] <fromvega> Vegeta^: sorry, don't know
[07:04] <helplol> but i get a 22 error when it tries to load grub, when no CD is in
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: yes, but only those
[07:04] <helplol> and just sits there
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: hold on a moment though
[07:04] <mnoir> helplol: either you repair your MBR ala windos only before you install ubuntu, or trust that the ubu install will find it which it does usually
[07:04] <SeanTater> fromvega: that's not the end of it
[07:05] <helplol> repair my MBR?
[07:05] <zRaf> I explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck
[07:05] <zRaf> SeanTater: I explain. I want to run a php script for command line, but it doesn't work, so I've tried to use a simple command, but with very bad luck
[07:05] <SeanTater> fromvega: do --> /etc/init.d/iptables.sh save <-- to create the file
[07:05] <fromvega> SeanTater: why save to save the file?
[07:06] <SeanTater> fromvega: because otherwise it will have problems loading
[07:06] <mnoir> helplol: yes - right now it has a broken grub and you need either a fixed grub that points to win and ubuntu or a fixed windows whatever that points only to windows
[07:06] <SeanTater> fromvega: it's not that intuitive a script -- sorry
[07:07] <helplol> yea how would i fix that?
[07:07] <helplol> install grub from ubuntu?
[07:07] <SeanTater> fromvega: let me put a progress bar here -- We have downloaded the script -- We need to make the file and link it to each of the rc directories
[07:08] <mnoir> helplol: the normal ubuntu install will, as a matter of course do it.  Do you want to do that without making sure yer windows still works?
[07:08] <skukza> ive enabled all the repositories in sanaptic, i cant find any packages for mp3 etc
[07:08] <jbroome> !mp3 | skukza
[07:08] <ubotu> skukza: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <fromvega> SeanTater: tks
[07:09] <gaten> anyone here use portsentry?
[07:09] <helplol> well
[07:09] <SeanTater> fromvega: have leftover patience?
[07:09] <helplol> i really want to login windows, so i know it works
[07:09] <helplol> then continue on with ubuntu installation
[07:09] <mnoir> helplol: i agree :)
[07:09] <mnoir> but I do not know the gatesway to fix the mbr - i advise you to find that...
[07:10] <mnoir> uuh - GATESway
[07:10] <fromvega> SeanTater: sorry, just that I need to solve another problem here.... init.d doesn't solve the problem? do I need to configure these rc dirs?
[07:10] <nova> how do i delete an .so it wont let me. need to be root... it in my trash and i cant deleted from there
[07:10] <SeanTater> fromvega: hold on -- I'll paste one big command so it does not have to take so much describing
[07:10] <helplol> so i find GATESway on google?
[07:10] <mnoir> !sudo | nova
[07:10] <ubotu> nova: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:10] <helplol> and run it?
[07:11] <nova> i know this, but im deleting not running
[07:11] <nova> how do I delete it
[07:11] <gaten> nova: your trash folder is in ~/.Trash
[07:11] <mnoir> helplol: sorry - no - i am funnin - you need to do whatever the official microsoft way is to recover your mbr
[07:11] <afflux> I've got the following problems with my compiz: gnome-terminal stars as a white window and I can't see any characters in it. I can type "exit" an press return, then it closes, so it basicly works. If I start it before I start compiz it works too, it still works if i start compiz afterwards but then new gnome-terminal windows won't work.
[07:11] <gaten> nova:  correction. your trash is in /home/user/.Trash
[07:12] <mnoir> nove - clue - the PROGRAM to delete is 'rm'
[07:12] <nova> nova@nova-desktop:~$ sudo ~/.Trash
[07:12] <nova> sudo: /home/nova/.Trash: command not found
[07:12] <nova> ???
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> nova: That's a directory, not a command.
[07:13] <mnoir> nova: stop, slow down
[07:13] <helplol> well another question
[07:13] <nova> i stopped, im slow, now what.
[07:13] <helplol> root "/" is a primary partition
[07:13] <helplol> what is swap and boot partitions?
[07:13] <mnoir> nova: the file you want to delete is in /home/nova/.Trash
[07:13] <mnoir> you want to run the delete program to delete it
[07:14] <tolle> Are there a easy way to make installation possible without having a monitor for a certain machine? Like enabling ssh and just ssh and remotly do the installation?
[07:14] <nova> lol, ok im in the hom/nova i dont see trash
[07:14] <mnoir> the way to do this is > sudo rm <pathtofiletodelete>
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> helplol: swap isn't mounted as a spot to store things and whatnot (although maybe in /proc somewhere) - it's like a pagefile or extended RAM.  boot is /boot.
[07:14] <noelferreira> hi people! hi have a ati graphic card sharing main memory? how can i configure the amount of memory of the graphic card?
[07:14] <afflux> nova, that's because files/directorys with a . in front are hidden per default
[07:14] <helplol> well im installing ubuntu with the graphical file listed in the gnome desktop
[07:14] <Dachra> hi all!  nub here with an obscure question
[07:15] <helplol> and im creating partitions for root and swap
[07:15] <nova> ok, let me make it easier for the both of us
[07:15] <Music_Shuffle> !hi | Dachra
[07:15] <ubotu> Dachra: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:15] <Dachra> :)
[07:15] <gaten> tolle:  thats called a "headless" installation. im not sure about the installation, but afterwards its easy enough. searching for headless installation might help
[07:15] <nova> this is the name of the file thats in the trash  "libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[07:15] <nova> so whats the command?
[07:15] <SeanTater> fromvega: paste coming -- just a sec
[07:15] <mnoir> nova: so you tell me what to type to remove that file :)
[07:16] <nova> sudo rm libjavaplugin_oji.so
[07:16] <nova> ?
[07:16] <mnoir> sounds right
[07:16] <nova> lol
[07:16] <nova> ok
[07:16] <mnoir> tias
[07:16] <gaten> nova:  you have to be in your trash directory first though
[07:16] <kraut> hi
[07:16] <kraut> is there any ipv6 ubuntu-mirrir?
[07:16] <mnoir> gaten: he is
[07:16] <kraut> mirror even
[07:16] <fromvega> SeanTater: ok
[07:16] <nova> whats the command to get in the directory
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> cd
[07:17] <mnoir> nova: cd <dir>
[07:17] <mnoir> i thought you were there :)
[07:17] <nova> cd trash?
[07:17] <gaten> mnoir:  hah!
[07:17] <nova> or cd /trash?
[07:17] <gaten> nova:  cd /home/nova/.Trash
[07:17] <nova> or cd /home/nova/trash
[07:17] <nova> ok
[07:17] <mnoir> nova: that is the name of the dir?
[07:17] <nova> yes
[07:17] <nova> root
[07:17] <nova> i think
[07:17] <mnoir> clue: capitals and dots count
[07:17] <SeanTater> fromvega: execute this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39352/
[07:18] <Dachra> ok, ubunto 6.10 (forget the "freindly" name "iffy?")  VMWare player running hand made XP install (need visio) currently running on wifi (eth1)
[07:18] <SeanTater> fromvega: but make sure not to include the line numbers
[07:18] <fromvega> SeanTater: does this save is because of your script or because of init.d ?
[07:18] <Dachra> the wifi connection does not pass to vmware xp instance.... any ideas how this should work?
[07:18] <nova> worked like a charm thank you, for patience and undertsanding.
[07:19] <mnoir> nova: you need to understand this - rm is forever and if you do it wrong you will prolly not be happy
[07:19] <hume> i've got some problems with networkmanager - I have an encrypted wlan and networkmanager asks for my wallet password, but when I supply it it freezes and I have to restart - is there a way to bypass the wallet thing?
[07:19] <nova> lol
[07:19] <SeanTater> fromvega: because of init executing my script
[07:19] <nova> i need to understand linux period
[07:19] <gaten> nova:  your welcome. google for some basic linux commands, they will come in handy
[07:19] <nova> rgr
[07:19] <SeanTater> fromvega: oh poo
[07:20] <SeanTater> fromvega: I did that wrong
[07:20] <gaten> nova:  look at this page: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[07:20] <fromvega> SeanTater: no problem dude, just tell me the main procedures so I can find it later. I need to use init.d and whatelse?
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: oh well -- execute this when you're done --> ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables /etc/init.d/iptables.sh
[07:21] <petroleum_> will sopcast be added to the repos anytime in the near future?
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: I was supposed to use /etc/init.d/iptables.sh not /etc/init.d/iptables
[07:21] <SeanTater> fromvega: making that extra link will fix it
[07:21] <joth> Is anyone here that was helping me with partitioning earlier?
[07:21] <MenZaha> If I wish to connect to 123.456.78.910 via ssh with the username menza, what would my syntax be?
[07:21] <MenZaha> ssh 123.456.78.910 menza@hostname no?
[07:21] <tolle> gaten: yeah, tought most headless install guides goes for serial connection.
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: no
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: ssh user@system
[07:22] <SeanTater> fromvega: if you know init, all I;m doing is having it run the script at shutdown and startup by linking it to the appropriate folders
[07:22] <aphexian> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:22] <MenZaha> aphexian, mnoir: thanks
[07:22] <SeanTater> fromvega: it's a really simple script, but it's difficult to implement
[07:22] <mnoir> MenZaha: man ssh is your friend...
[07:22] <aphexian> no prob
[07:23] <aphexian> its all about ssh tunneling then VNCing
[07:23] <gaten> tolle:  yeah well it needs to output somewhere. ssh isnt enabled by default
[07:23] <Dachra> can anyone here help with a ubuntu->vmware->xp wireless problem or am I barking up the wrong tree?  :)
[07:23] <gaten> tolle:  you could blindly enable it maybe ;)
[07:23] <thomasg> hi. I'm using xubuntu 6.10 and try to play mp3s with mpd, what doesnt work. which package I need to let mpd play my mp3s?
[07:23] <Dachra> or are ya's all just busy atm?
[07:24] <tannerld> what should the filesystem be for ubuntu?
[07:24] <tolle> gaten: yeah, seems easiest to just blindly install it atm.
[07:24] <xo233> Dachra: what are you tying to do?
[07:24] <mnoir> tannerld: pls rephrase yer question?
[07:24] <psynaps3> Folks, a few questions :) Should I got for reiserfs or ext3? typical developer usage
[07:24] <thomasg> tannerld: nearly all distros use ext3 as default
[07:24] <Lynoure> tannerld: Depends on the use. Most people use ext3.
[07:24] <gaten> tolle:  well you could try to blindly enable ssh, then install from remote. you should be able to w/ the livecd
[07:24] <mnoir> psynaps3: prolly ext3
[07:24] <tolle> gaten: ah, forgot about the livecd..
[07:24] <AlexC_> Hey
[07:24] <gaten> use ext2 if you never want to get your deleted data back
[07:24] <Dachra> im using wireless atm but can't pass the connection to vmware... know what i mean?
[07:24] <tannerld> Lynoure thomasg: ok, thanks :)
[07:25] <AlexC_> Is it possible to make Motif applications look nicer, maybe by forcing them to use GTK instead?
[07:25] <fromvega> SeanTater: thank you dude! I need to go! bye
[07:25] <mnoir> gaten - journals are for sys crashes too...
[07:25] <xo233> Right, you cannot share the connection...
[07:25] <Henry|> Alrighty, burning the alternative installation
[07:25] <psynaps3> fine, a year or so back, i had read a few good reports comparing reiserfs with ext3 and the former had the lead. What's the scenario like now?
[07:25] <Henry|> hopefully it'll work :D
[07:25] <tolle> AlexC_:
[07:25] <alex-weej> AlexC_: motif and Gtk are completely different APIs
[07:25] <mnoir> psynaps3: you want to trade more limited support for a little performance?
[07:25] <alex-weej> AlexC_: i.e. no
[07:26] <tolle> AlexC_:  what the other alex guy said.
[07:26] <xo233> Hmm, what version of VMware are you using, and what version of Ubuntu?
[07:26] <gaten> mnoir:  right. ext2 just has very little hope of recovering anything deleted/damaged. good for some purposes
[07:26] <psynaps3> hmm.. fine. ext3 it is then :)
[07:26] <AlexC_> alex-weej: oh I know they are different APIs, just wondering if it was possible to make Motif apps pretty :P
[07:26] <alex-weej> stick with ext3
[07:26] <alex-weej> it's not written by wife-murdering programmers
[07:26] <djavie233> hi
[07:26] <psynaps3> hahaha
[07:26] <hsh> hi
[07:26] <tolle> psynaps3:  the differance is that ext4 is out and hans reiser is accused of murder?
[07:26] <mnoir> alex-weej: darn - ya beat me to it...
[07:26] <Dachra> ubuntu 6.10 and vmware player with vmware 5 tools installed
[07:26] <djavie233> I need some help
[07:26] <alex-weej> djavie233: just ask!
[07:27] <psynaps3> okay next one. I am setting up a dual boot sys here and would like some help with the paritioning.
[07:27] <djavie233> Ok, I have Ubuntu Dapper Drake installed on my Windows (I'm on a Mac right now)
[07:27] <joth> I have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?
[07:27] <psynaps3> what should the size be of my swap partition? (system ram is 1gb)
[07:27] <djavie233> The thing is that I want to update it to Edgy
[07:27] <jonah1980> hi i've just installed enlightenment to try instead of gnome, but on loggin in my desktop icons have dissapeared? do i have to have two sets one for enlightenment and one for gnome or is there a way to make them the same?
[07:27] <djavie233> But the windows doesn't have internet
[07:27] <alex-weej> psynaps3: try 1 GB, it's completely arbitrary and can be changed at any time if it's at the end of a disk
[07:27] <xo233> Dachra: Are you getting any output, in the form of errors/messages ect, when you try to start the connection sharing?
[07:28] <djavie233> How would I go about doing that?
[07:28] <mnoir> djavie233: you will use 6.06 to upg, not windows
[07:28] <psynaps3> i would expect a bit of paging because of running java apps most of the time
[07:28] <djavie233> mnoir : what do you mean?
[07:28] <alex-weej> psynaps3: i wouldn't worry too much about it. just give it a GB
[07:28] <xo233> djavie233: What exactly are you wanting to do? Upgrade to Edgy, from Breezy?
[07:28] <mnoir> i mean that windows access to the net is not relevant - ubuntu needs the access
[07:29] <psynaps3> fine. How about the boot partition? is 128MiB enough?
[07:29] <djavie233> xo233: I have Dapper Drake and I want to upgrade to Edgy
[07:29] <alex-weej> psynaps3: you don't need a boot partition
[07:29] <Canopus> Hi every one
[07:29] <SeanTater> is there a way to decreas the disk usage od digikam (like linking the images) or something similar?
[07:29] <Dachra> no errors, i have it set to "bridged" using the vmware virtual nic driver in xp, the connection shows up but says "poor connection blah blah blah" in xp after the interface comes up
[07:29] <SeanTater> *decrease*
[07:29] <psynaps3> i am sticking with a seperate partition for swap, boot, root and home
[07:29] <Canopus> can some one guide me how I can exclude a package from the update notifier list
[07:29] <psynaps3> old habits :)
[07:29] <gaten> psynaps3:  for swap i use 2x memory. if you have the space i'd suggest that
[07:29] <mnoir> psynaps3: why a boot?
[07:30] <thomasg> can nobody tell me which package is needed on xubuntu for playing mp3 files with mpd?
[07:30] <alex-weej> psynaps3: boot needs enough size to contain your kernel images and your initrd. i really don't think you need one but if you're hellbent on making a boot partition then be my guest.
[07:30] <alex-weej> psynaps3: i.e. 128 MB is ample
[07:30] <mediator> hello
[07:30] <Dachra> I guess my question is, does it "have" to be a ethernet NIC or can I fool it into using my wifi connection?
[07:30] <psynaps3> i have no idea. been a while since i have used linux. last attempt was with gentoo and i had quite a few kernel images in my boot partition
[07:30] <xo233> Dachra: So, there IS a connection being formed? XP (vmare) is just getting a weak signal? Does it cut off completely after that?
[07:31] <mediator> anyone know how to configure KISMET for ubuntu?
[07:31] <djavie233> so can anyone help me? If you would like to do so, PM me
[07:31] <alex-weej> psynaps3: if you want to take my advice, have /, /home and swap. you really don't need more than that for most cases and having /home on a separate partition is just convenient for power users
[07:31] <Afief> What games are available for Ubuntu with a good multiplayer(internet)?
[07:31] <psynaps3> finally, how should i divide the space between root and home partition? that's about 30gb to share
[07:31] <gaten> World of Warcraft
[07:31] <Dachra> yessir, my guess is that the vmware (1gE) driver dowsn't like the "slow" wifi connection?
[07:31] <psynaps3> it will mostly be a single user system
[07:31] <alex-weej> Afief: ut2004, quake (up to quake 4), wow and all hl variants through wine
[07:32] <alex-weej> Afief: enemy territory
[07:32] <Afief> psynaps3: I got 10 GB for root and the rest home, works like a charm for me
[07:32] <psynaps3> i need a seperate home partition. Might want to try out some other distros at some later point :)
[07:32] <gaten> psynaps3:  all your programs are gunna be stored in /usr, so i'd put more space in there. /home is mostly personal stuff
[07:32] <alex-weej> psynaps3: bear in mind that things like UT2004 are about 6 GB
[07:32] <Afief> alex-weej: i was thinking about something less heavy... more in the league of frozen bubble and friends...
[07:32] <SpiritHobo> Oy. Can I have some help?
[07:33] <xo233> Are you able to do anything net related while the connection is working?
[07:33] <Canopus> is it possible to restrain a package from being updated automatically
[07:33] <vulcanius> Afief: got a separate file system for boot?
[07:33] <psynaps3> so i guess around 20gb for root and the rest for home. if i am not mistaken i can always resize this at a later point?
[07:33] <xo233> ... does it stay connected for a certain set amount of time? Or is it random?
[07:33] <jonah1980> hello anyone know how to setup an elightenment desktop to match that of gnome - i'm not seeimg my desktop items
[07:33] <alex-weej> Afief: there are an absolute shedload of little games, just check out the games category in the app browser
[07:33] <daedra> !hu
[07:33] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[07:33] <psynaps3> alex-weej: there won't be any games in my laption :) at least not UT
[07:33] <alex-weej> psynaps3: you can, but it is difficult
[07:33] <daedra> what is that hungarian?
[07:33] <alex-weej> psynaps3: basically, you can't move the start of an ext3 partition. it's just not possible
[07:34] <Afief> vulcanius: nope, only home and root. I never understood why i would need a boot FS(perhaps you can tell me?)
[07:34] <alex-weej> psynaps3: so you are limited by that
[07:34] <gaten> Afief:  try this: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:34] <SpiritHobo> help
[07:34] <vulcanius> Afief: well put it this way, if you ever fill up your root partition on accident or without noticing
[07:34] <alex-weej> Canopus: you can
[07:34] <Afief> alex-weej: but none of them states if it got multiplayer
[07:34] <psynaps3> hmm... my concern is that when the next version of ubuntu comes out and when i need to do a fresh install, i woudn't want to loose my home partition
[07:34] <vulcanius> the next time you reboot, your machine will not be able to start
[07:34] <vulcanius> there will be no space for startup procedures
[07:34] <skukza> how do i view all the pations on my drive?
[07:34] <Canopus> alex-weej: great, how?
[07:35] <the_conley> df -h
[07:35] <gephalt> Hi, I cannot see my eth0 device when i do an ifconfig -a
[07:35] <vulcanius> alot of people make this mistake and then cry later when all it takes is a simple 50MB or so
[07:35] <alex-weej> Canopus: find the package in Synaptic, go to Package -> Lock Version
[07:35] <psynaps3> but i guess if i copy everything in my home partition to the shared fat32 and copy them back, it shouldn't be a problem? would this mess with the permissions and stuffs?
[07:35] <the_conley> (skukza)
[07:35] <skukza> ya
[07:35] <the_conley> df -h
[07:35] <Afief> gaten: thanks that looks promising:D
[07:35] <Dachra> xo233: not within the xp vm nosir
[07:35] <gephalt> but after i connect the ubuntu box with the XP box, according to the XP box, the network adapter is connected. how come?
[07:35] <alex-weej> psynaps3: fat32 will destroy your user permissions, and probably filenames
[07:35] <gephalt> can someone please help me with this?
[07:36] <skukza> the_conley, that only shows on partion i want to see them all
[07:36] <gaten> Afief:  no problem
[07:36] <psynaps3> duh, then its definately a seperate home partition
[07:36] <alex-weej> psynaps3: fat32 can't store filenames with colons, double quotes, or many other chars - but you could of course just move everything to a new ext3 partition :P
[07:36] <the_conley> it should show them all
[07:36] <erUSUL> psynaps3: yes it would mess up perms you better backup your home in a tar archive with the p flag to save permisions
[07:36] <bmhm> hi every1
[07:36] <the_conley> how many do you have?
[07:36] <Canopus> alex-weej: thanks
[07:36] <the_conley> and are you sure they are mounted?
[07:36] <alex-weej> Canopus: no problem
[07:37] <skukza> it only shows /dev/hda4 and /dev/sd1a
[07:37] <mitch__> hey, I get this message in the log after having installed KDE and my wireless won;t work anymore..."12/29/2006 02:31:59 PM	localhost	kernel	[  267.740495]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present"...any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:37] <erUSUL> psynaps3: 'tar cpzf /path/to/backup.tgz ~/'
[07:37] <aphexian> IPv6 ?
[07:37] <the_conley> well it isnt going to show you swap
[07:37] <Music_Shuffle> !ipv6
[07:37] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:37] <psynaps3> so what do you folks suggest? should i have a seperate partition for root and home or not? considering that home is going to be just 10gb, i could always back it up to a couple of dvd's
[07:37] <skukza> its a 40gb hd not 4gb of hd
[07:38] <mitch__> everything was working fine before KDE...now wireless won;t work in either desktop
[07:38] <erUSUL> psynaps3: it is a good idea to have separate partitions imnsho
[07:38] <skukza> mitch__, xfce
[07:38] <the_conley> i dont know what to tell you, are you sure they are all mounted?
[07:38] <psynaps3> fine sir :) just a one last question and i am out of here. what file systems for all these partition? ext3's for all except for boot (ext2)?
[07:38] <skukza> no they arnt
[07:38] <the_conley> o
[07:39] <mnoir> boot cant be ext3??
[07:39] <the_conley> well you have to mount them
[07:39] <skukza> thats why i want to see all the partions mounted or not to find out where the hell all my space went
[07:39] <the_conley> before you can look at them
[07:39] <psynaps3> i am not sure.
[07:39] <the_conley> ah
[07:39] <mnoir> my parts are all 3
[07:39] <Canopus> alex-weej: doesn't update-notifier stop asking for updating a locked package?
[07:39] <mitch__> skukza: what is xfce?
[07:39] <psynaps3> ah fine
[07:39] <alex-weej> Canopus: not sure, sorry
[07:39] <the_conley> well first of all, you cant look at them if they arent mounted, thats the point of being mounted
[07:39] <alex-weej> Canopus: i should hope so
[07:39] <erUSUL> psynaps3: i have ext3 in all partitions... (boot root and home)
[07:39] <skukza> a gui like kde or gnome
[07:40] <mnoir> psynaps3: just make sure to tune2fs them to do fsck more often
[07:40] <the_conley> just do ls /dev | grep sda (or hda)
[07:40] <kootaphor> I'm looking for a good frontend to play music and watch video on my TV.  I don't care about PVR capability, and mythtv has proven to be a pain.  Can anyone point me to a remote controllable big-screen frontend type thingie/idea? i'm wondering if they'res anything easier than, say, configuring a ratpoison setup with amarok and tons of bound keys.
[07:40] <the_conley> at see them all
[07:40] <psynaps3> thanks people :) this channel rocks
[07:40] <skukza> think ill just reinstall
[07:40] <daedra> three w00ts for #ubuntu
[07:40] <skukza> everything
[07:40] <the_conley> well i dont use gui much
[07:40] <the_conley> haha
[07:40] <the_conley> no wait
[07:40] <the_conley> i can help
[07:40] <psynaps3> i might be back later when i need to get my webcam working in edgy :) .. until then bye bye and have a nice day
[07:40] <erUSUL> !enter | the_conley
[07:40] <ubotu> the_conley: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:41] <the_conley> sorry
[07:41] <daedra> !logitech
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <daedra> !webcam
[07:41] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:41] <psynaps3> ah :)
[07:41] <Dachra> ok, no biggie guys, thanks for listening xo233!  I've not exhausted my search options yet, just thought I might get lucky here and run tno someone who has gotten wireless connection working under vmware, cheers!
[07:41] <gephalt> Can someone please help me with this- i want to know whether its faulty hardware or possibly a missing driver due to which i cannot see my eth0 device
[07:42] <MrBallZ> hi
[07:42] <psynaps3> this one's an integrated webcam. i've read a few ppl complaning about it not working properly with ubuntu... anyway that's for a later time. Bye :)
[07:42] <mnoir> psynaps3: l8r
[07:42] <hjmills> hi all
[07:42] <hjmills> i have a hard drive from a friends dedicated server
[07:42] <mnoir> hjmills: does he miss it?
[07:42] <MrBallZ> question,  How good is the Intel GMZ 950 graphics chipset ... compared to Nvidia - ATI , under linux .... without going to the propietary driver thing ...
[07:42] <hjmills> used to be on a p4 now on an amd skt a
[07:43] <hjmills> mnoir: no - he kindly lent it to me when he lost his cpu
[07:43] <Swede> i've  got an asus motherboard, but their site only contains drivers for redhat, what do i do? i want the drivers because i want to use the s/pdif contact on the motherboard
[07:43] <hjmills> it boots fine but it wont work on the network because the network hardware has changed
[07:43] <bmhm> can some1 help here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302545
[07:43] <hjmills> how can i get it to reconfigure this?
[07:43] <maddash> for gtk1, there's the gtk-theme-switch. what about gtk2? I've installed some random theme via aptitude (gtk2-engines-clearlooks), so how do I switch my theme to that one?
[07:44] <mnoir> hj - you should be abe to alter the net config
[07:44] <mnoir> the config is /etc/network/interfaces
[07:44] <hjmills> mnoir: I can but it cant find the hardware that in the past it called "eth0" - how do i get it to relook at the hardware and set that all up?
[07:45] <mon^rch> anyone running doom3 on edgy?
[07:45] <maddash> anyone here know how to switch the gtk2 themes?
[07:45] <hjmills> mnoir: its a lower level than that
[07:45] <wyatt_earp> is there a way i can run 32bit pam modules on an amd64 ubuntu install?
[07:45] <lode_> Hi, I was in a graphical KDE session. Then I used "lock session". I came back later, and entered my password to unlock it. It said "unlocking failed". Then I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 and logged in with my username and the same password. It worked. Then I started a new graphical session, and again there I can login with my password. But I want my original graphical sessoin (which is at ctrl+alt+f7), and it still says "unlocking failed", but I seriousl
[07:45] <lode_> y enter my correct password
[07:45] <joth> I have an empty partition, can I install Windows onto it from a CD without rebooting?
[07:45] <lode_> what else than a wrong password could cause this "unlocking failed"?
[07:45] <mnoir> hmm -
[07:45] <alex-weej> lode_: absolutely double check num lock and caps lock
[07:45] <hjmills> maddash: its in Systems>Preferences>Themes in gnome
[07:45] <mnoir> you need to inspect the boot log to determine hw or look in /proc
[07:45] <alex-weej> lode_: sometimes when switching VT's their states go a bit funked up
[07:46] <hjmills> lode_: try running "sudo passwd <username> in a term and setting the passwd to what you think it is and retrying
[07:46] <AnRkey> hi all
[07:46] <alex-weej> lode_: hjmills' tip will set the root password
[07:46] <lode_> alex-weej, it's not caps, and it's not numlock, tried all states, and also tried qwerty<-> azerty etc...
[07:46] <hjmills> any idea how i can redetect the hard ware
[07:46] <maddash> hjmills: if it were that simple, I wouldn't have to ask. I don't have gnome. I fresh installed a server setup of breezy. only have openbox and obconf. and xorg, of course.
[07:46] <tannerld> whats the best way to set up dual monitors?
[07:46] <hjmills> alex-weej: not if you give a different username
[07:46] <alex-weej> lode_: in that case, uninstall KDE and use GNOME
[07:46] <mnoir> hjmills: I'm thinking
[07:47] <lode_> it's not the root password, it's the one of my user account
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: i think there is a gtk-theme-switch program available
[07:47] <lode_> alex-weej, I've used KDE for over a year on archlinux and it's never showed that problem there
[07:47] <maddash> hjmills: firefox, totem, etc...they all look too oldschool for me
[07:47] <alex-weej> lode_: i'm just kidding :P
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: lol
[07:47] <AnRkey> I have just installed edubuntu here for testing and my /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file is empty. Does anyone have an example file for me? a pastebin of it would be handy
[07:47] <maddash> hjmills: did you read my original comment? gtk-theme-switch is only for gtk1 themes....
[07:47] <Afief> maddash: firefox can download many nice themes, even a vista theme if you like:)
[07:47] <hjmills> maddash: there is a version for gtk2 themes - i used it on fluxbox
[07:48] <mnoir> hjmills: does dmesg|grep eth help?
[07:48] <maddash> hjmills: there doesn't seem to be a gtk2-theme-switch or a gtk-theme-switch2 in the ubuntu repos
[07:48] <Afief> maddash: and gnome can look like vista as well, i think it was called vista-gtk2 theme
[07:48] <maddash> Afief: read my msgs. I don't have gnome.
[07:48] <Afief> maddash: what do you have?
[07:49] <maddash> hjmills: do you recall what package you used for the fluxbox?
[07:49] <hjmills> maddash: run switch2 from a term
[07:49] <hjmills> maddash: its in the gtk-theme-switch package - that has 2 binaries - one for gtk1  and one for gtk2
[07:49] <maddash> hjmills: thanks dude.
[07:50] <jmhodges> hey, my swapon is saying that the UUID of my swap partition is "invalid" when i run swapon -a
[07:50] <jmhodges> i havent touched my fstab.. what can i do?
[07:50] <alex-weej> jmhodges: check your /etc/fstab
[07:50] <maddash> hjmills: good god. just looking at these butt-ugly controls is enough to cause a stroke.
[07:50] <alex-weej> jmhodges: and look at "lshal | less" to verify that your UUIDs match
[07:51] <jmhodges> what am i looking for in lshal?
[07:51] <psynaps3> Ah, sorry to disturb you folks again, but just one last confirmation before i commit the changes. :)
[07:51] <hjmills> maddash: happy to help
[07:51] <alex-weej> jmhodges: your swap volume
[07:51] <anks> I need to make one distro starting from ubuntu can anybody help me please
[07:51] <alex-weej> hjmills: type "/swap" in less to search for "swap"
[07:51] <hjmills> anks there is some great stuff on the wiki
[07:51] <psynaps3> Partition table - Diagnostic (fat16 - 110mb - Primary), XP (ntfs, 30GB, Primary), Boot (ext3, 128mb, Primary), Swap (swap, 1gb, logical), root (ext3, 20gb, logical), home (ext3, 10gb, logical) and Shared (fat32, 50gb, logical)
[07:51] <alex-weej> psynaps3: all on one disk?
[07:52] <psynaps3> does that look fine
[07:52] <jmhodges> alex-weej: i assume that /swap was for me.. and i already had
[07:52] <psynaps3> yes
[07:52] <alex-weej> psynaps3: overkill.
[07:52] <psynaps3> its a 120gb drive
[07:52] <hjmills> anks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[07:52] <jmhodges> alex-weej: there's nothing mentiong swap in there
[07:52] <psynaps3> overkill? as in?
[07:52] <Pierre_N> hi
[07:52] <alex-weej> jmhodges: try running hal-device-manager
[07:52] <Afief> Pierre_N: hi
[07:52] <alex-weej> jmhodges: it's a graphical equivalent
[07:53] <jmhodges> alex-weej: right
[07:53] <alex-weej> jmhodges: look under your hard disk controller for your hard disks and try to find the swap partition you have
[07:53] <Pierre_N> when I run synaptic as root, it looks poo, like the gtk theme isn't being applied - I've tried running gnome-theme-manager as root (and gtk-theme-switch) but they aren't changing the gtk2 theme - any ideas
[07:53] <Pierre_N> ?
[07:53] <alex-weej> psynaps3: do you really need a fat16 partition?
[07:53] <anks> hjmills, thanks
[07:53] <hjmills> Pierre_N: make sure the theme you want is in /usr/share/themes not in ~/.themes
[07:53] <alex-weej> Pierre_N: your gtk theme is installed in /home/pierre/.themes
[07:53] <psynaps3> alex-weej: that's the dell diagnostic partition. I can't take it out.
[07:53] <Pierre_N> thanks peeps
[07:54] <hjmills> mnoir: that showd me something (grep eth) but didnt say much - just the mac addr
[07:54] <hjmills> mnoir: im currently doing a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[07:54] <ubuntu> Am I able to put something on my Windows NTFS partition from Ubuntu Live? My internet isn't working on Windows and I need to install a driver
[07:54] <Pierre_N> woot, fixed! (thanks again)
[07:54] <my_haz> how do i record my voice with Ubuntu?
[07:54] <alex-weej> ubuntu: not easily
[07:55] <jmhodges> alex-weej: found it
[07:55] <psynaps3> how about the rest of the partitions? i have taken into account all the information that i could gather to come up with that :)
[07:55] <my_haz> what tool do i use to record my voice into mp3 for example
[07:55] <mnoir> hmm - might work, i am wondering if your loadable mods are right
[07:55] <alex-weej> ubuntu: Microsoft NTFS is closed and proprietary, any support we have for it is reverse engineered and isn't guaranteed to not hose your system
[07:55] <mnoir> !ntfs
[07:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[07:55] <jmhodges> alex-weej: bonus, its volume.uuid is false and so is its volume.fstype
[07:55] <hjmills> mnoir: no luck there - the loadable mods wont be right - the install is set for a diff mobo, cpu and everythong
[07:56] <alex-weej> my_haz: gst-launch gconfaudiosrc ! vorbisenc ! oggmux ! filesink location=recorded.ogg
[07:56] <jmhodges> alex-weej: er. i mean its volume.uuid is blank and so is its volume.fstype
[07:56] <mnoir> alexthan needs to be in the !ntfs output!
[07:56] <ubuntu> alex-weej: Is there any other way I can transfer the driver to Windows? I don't have a CD burner
[07:56] <alex-weej> jmhodges: run mkswap /dev/sdWHATEVER
[07:56] <my_haz> alex-weej: whoa thats a big command
[07:56] <alex-weej> ubuntu: you need to ask on #windows
[07:56] <jmhodges> very very odd
[07:56] <jmhodges> its worked fine for ages
[07:56] <hjmills> my_haz: i think there is a sound-recorder program then use a converter to make it something else
[07:57] <alex-weej> jmhodges: did you recently upgrade distribution?
[07:57] <wyatt_earp> anyone know how i can install the 32bit pam on an amd64 system?
[07:57] <tannerld> whats the best way to set up dual monitors?
[07:57] <hjmills> tannerld: what gfx card?
[07:57] <jmhodges> not so recently.. maybe i just didnt notice however.. i only saw the swap init fail because my harddrve was at its 30 times-no-scan limit
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: if you change your fstab to use /dev/sdWHATEVER it will work
[07:58] <s0nix> hi
[07:58] <tannerld> hjmills: ati
[07:58] <ubuntu> How would I mount my Windows partition?
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: but the "in" way of doing it these days is to use UUIDs, as it prevents problems when swapping disks in and out of your system
[07:58] <alex-weej> jmhodges: simply mkswap'ing will create a UUID for it
[07:58] <jmhodges> alex-weej: just did the mkswap business, i'll toss the new UUID in fstab
[07:59] <jmhodges> er.. heh, exactly
[07:59] <alex-weej> jmhodges: did it show up in HAL>?
[07:59] <hjmills> tannerld: check in the wiki - probably easiest to use the X org way rather than any ATI way if there is one but Im an nVidia user myself im afraid
[07:59] <jmhodges> alex-weej: hunh, just restarted hal-device-manager.. and it looks like no
[07:59] <s0nix> anyone can help me to solve this problem: s0nix@PARANOID:~$ java -classpath . NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0.10.jar ----------------- Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: NW-E003_MP3_File_Manager-0/10/jarvvv
[07:59] <ubuntu> How would I mount my Windows partition?
[08:00] <mnoir> !ntfs
[08:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:00] <alex-weej> jmhodges: possibly you need to restart HAL to get it to pick up on the disk changes - try a reboot
[08:00] <jmhodges> alex-weej: ah
[08:00] <s0nix> java version "1.5.0_08"
[08:00] <jmhodges> fun fun
[08:00] <lorenz_> join/ #reload
[08:00] <jmhodges> brb then
[08:00] <hjmills> s0nix: thats a java problem from the looks of it - did you write it?
[08:00] <alwa> hello can someon help me
[08:00] <s0nix> hjmills:  no, i got only the .jar
[08:00] <hjmills> lorenz_: you mean <slash>join #reload (i.e. /join #reload)
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info apt-cache search ktechlab
[08:01] <ubotu> Package apt-cache does not exist in edgy
[08:01] <mnoir> alwa: not unless you ask an ubuntu question
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info ktechlab
[08:01] <ubotu> ktechlab: circuit simulator for microcontrollers and electronics. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-4 (edgy), package size 1052 kB, installed size 3540 kB
[08:01] <maddash> LOL
[08:01] <erUSUL> !info ktechlab dapper
[08:01] <ubotu> Package ktechlab does not exist in dapper
[08:01] <ubuntu> /dev/sda1   *           1       19451   156240126    7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:01] <hjmills> s0nix: oh ok - best way is to fix it if u can get the source and know java or check it has everything it needs or find a new program
[08:01] <ubuntu> is it supposed to say sda?
[08:02] <n2diy> alwa: not unless you ask a question.
[08:02] <mnoir> ubuntu: that is a valid type
[08:02] <ubuntu> ok
[08:02] <hjmills> !ask
[08:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:02] <maddash> !stfu
[08:02] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:02] <s0nix> hjmills: im sure the .jar work perfectly cher vous
[08:03] <alwa> i have some problem with my wlan card (broadcom4318)
[08:03] <s0nix> "cher vous" = on your pc
[08:03] <mnoir> !wlan
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <hjmills> s0nix: how come?
[08:03] <alex-weej> !wifi
[08:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:03] <alwa> i have read the docu
[08:04] <alwa> i have bcm43xx installed and now ndiswrapper
[08:04] <s0nix> hjmills: it probably (and surely) a stupid problem of classpath
[08:04] <hjmills> alwa: search the wiki and forum for your card
[08:04] <aphexian> jfgi - Jewish Federation of Greater Indianapolis ;)
[08:04] <hjmills> s0nix: im afraid i dont know java....
[08:04] <miljenko> hay from croatia
[08:04] <maddash> has anyone ever tried to "sudo apt-get|aptitude remove apt" ?
[08:04] <alex-weej> maddash: if you do that you'll have to bootstrap your system
[08:04] <alex-weej> maddash: i.e. don't.
[08:05] <crippledcanary> alwa: I also have a 4318
[08:05] <maddash> alex-weej: what do you mean? I don't need apt to boot up...right?
[08:06] <crippledcanary> alwa: and i have got it working without ndiswrapper in edgy.
[08:06] <alwa> crippledcanary: in a tm44 notebook
[08:06] <acuozzo> How is everyone? Can anyone read what I am writing?
[08:06] <alex-weej> maddash: nah, apt has a lot of important dependants, uninstalling it will uninstall them
[08:06] <ubuntu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter -- doesn't exist anymore :\
[08:06] <crippledcanary> alwa: I've got a aspire 3003
[08:06] <acuozzo> I have a Travelmate 4654!
[08:07] <alex-weej> maddash: basically you'll need to go around reinstalling stuff without apt
[08:07] <hjmills> what is run when you install linux to detect the hardware?
[08:07] <alex-weej> hjmills: the kernel...
[08:07] <maddash> alex-weej: so is there any way I could "seal shut" a computer, ie, disable any installation/removal of packages, while still retaining the ability to use the existing packages?
[08:07] <alex-weej> maddash: not to my knowledge
[08:08] <hjmills> alex-weej: so why does the kernel not redetect my hardware when i move the hdd into another machine? my network no longer works
[08:08] <oroneta> hola a todos y felices fiestas
[08:08] <mnoir> !es
[08:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:08] <mnoir> happy happy anyway :)
[08:08] <oroneta> sorry
[08:08] <alex-weej> maddash: hjmills, ah... that's not hardware detection - that's hardware configuration
[08:08] <acuozzo> Does anyone see what I am writing?
[08:08] <alex-weej> maddash: not you
[08:08] <alex-weej> hjmills: ^^
[08:08] <n2diy> maddash: alex-weej, create an alias that sends the apt-get command to null?
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: woah
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: easy to hack :P
[08:09] <alwa> is it an problem if i have the normal "cablecard" up and on dhcp mode
[08:09] <maddash> n2diy: ditto alex-weej
[08:09] <mnoir> cool - security by cumbersomeness
[08:09] <hjmills> alex-weej: is it possible to get it to reconfigure the network devices then?
[08:09] <n2diy> maddash: alex-weej, not for a newbie.
[08:09] <alex-weej> hjmills: certainly, one second
[08:09] <alex-weej> n2diy: why are you giving newbies admin access?
[08:09] <Jay2> anybody figured out how to install a Benq Prisa 1240UT
[08:10] <alex-weej> non-admins can't use apt at all
[08:10] <alex-weej> so it's not a problem
[08:10] <oroneta> merry xmas, bye!
[08:10] <n2diy> alex-weej: Who said anything about giving them admin access?
[08:10] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you tried Network-Manager and nm-applet
[08:10] <maddash> alex-weej: I'm not. I'm going to open a terminal for near-public access, but there could be some newbies who feel compelled to sudo apt-get something
[08:10] <xelu> eeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:10] <chickygocheer4u> hey
[08:10] <alex-weej> maddash: why are they able to sudo?
[08:11] <hjmills> maddash: dont give them root access?
[08:11] <gaten> maddash:  dont give them sudo. simple
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> what??
[08:11] <mnoir> maddash: which will be rejected since you won't put them in the admin group
[08:11] <sysrpl> hello
[08:11] <crippledcanary> alwa: I have configured for nm to take care of my cable and wireless and it switches ok.
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> who do i puit new software on my computer
[08:11] <hume> is there a way to have knetworkmanager connect to a WEP encrypted WLAN without having to type in wallet password each time?
[08:11] <n2diy> chickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic
[08:11] <maddash> hjmills: yeah, but being able to sudo in the first place...might look unprofessional
[08:11] <chickygocheer4u> how do i put new software on my computer****
[08:12] <n2diy> chickygocheer4u: click on system-admin-synaptic
[08:12] <VR_> Is the "alternate" ubuntu ISO with the text installation?
[08:12] <alwa> okay thx crippledcanary
[08:12] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: Applications -> Add/Remove
[08:12] <hjmills> maddash: but they cant - they can try bt it just gets reported to the sys admin and denied
[08:12] <chickygocheer4u> i cant get in that
[08:12] <miguel> hi all
[08:12] <hjmills> VR_: yes
[08:12] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: why not?
[08:12] <mnoir> madpls splain why you would give them sudo access?
[08:12] <VR_> hjmills: Thanks
[08:12] <n2diy> VR_: yes, it is called the Alternative CD.
[08:12] <miguel> has anyone successfully configured a Linksys WUSB54GR on Edgy?
[08:12] <chickygocheer4u> bc mystdep brother has the password and he wont tell me
[08:12] <maddash> huh?? stupid tinyirc...it's screwing up whenever i resize xterm geez
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> step***
[08:13] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u: then you can't use the packaging system, sorry
[08:13] <hjmills> chickygocheer4u: you need the password to install stuff - sorry
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> fuck
[08:13] <chickygocheer4u> sry
[08:13] <VR_> hjmills, n2diy: the alternative CD still has the gnome/kde desktop though, right?
[08:13] <alex-weej> chickygocheer4u:  go and ask him to install something
[08:13] <acuozzo> Can anyone read what I am writing?
[08:13] <VR_> or would i have to apt-get it
[08:13] <alex-weej> acuozzo: hi :P
[08:13] <n2diy> VR_: I don't know.
[08:13] <hjmills> acuozzo: yes
[08:13] <acuozzo> Hi :) Thank you.
[08:14] <PriceChild> chickygocheer4u: reboot into single user mode
[08:14] <acuozzo> NickServ was messing with me.
[08:14] <chickygocheer4u> how
[08:14] <chickygocheer4u> ?
[08:14] <hjmills> alex-weej: any luck on how to reconfigure the network stuff?
[08:14] <sysrpl> i have a pc that kind of took a crap  (possibly). the video no longer works. i tried swapping out video cards, but that didn't fix the problem. to salvage the board, what should i try next?
[08:14] <acuozzo> Anyone else here use an Acer laptop?
[08:14] <sysrpl> i also disconnected the drives, and tried different memory, but i still can't get the video to output anything. any advice would be appreciated
[08:14] <alex-weej> hjmills: you need to debconf something but i can't remember what - have you tried installing networkmanager?
[08:14] <alex-weej> networkmanager deals with all this kind of jazz
[08:14] <hjmills> sysrpl: probably a duff mobo - try a pci gfx card
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> i dodnt know anything about computers
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: actually
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> cant you tell
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: you using GNOME?
[08:15] <chickygocheer4u> yes
[08:15] <hjmills> alex-weej: no - its a server :(
[08:15] <sysrpl> hjmills: i don't have any pci video cards lying around :(
[08:15] <alwa> crippledcanary: network-mananger scanns but dont find my router
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: look in /etc/netwrok
[08:15] <sysrpl> hjmills: duff?
[08:15] <alex-weej> hjmills: /etc/network
[08:16] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you ever got wireless to work?
[08:16] <acuozzo> Has anyone been able to get the 3d acceleration working nicley with i915?
[08:16] <alex-weej> sysrpl: does your computer POST?
[08:16] <hjmills> sysrpl: so it has no onboard or that doesnt work and the agp slot dosnt seem to work? try pci if u want or replace the mobo or install a server ubuntu and from memory set it up on ssh and login remotely
[08:16] <hjmills> alex-weej: thanks :D
[08:16] <ubuntu> how do i move files?
[08:16] <ubuntu> in terminal
[08:16] <acuozzo> cp
[08:16] <alex-weej> ubuntu: drag and drop? :E
[08:16] <alwa> yes
[08:17] <Afief> ubuntu mv [src]  [dst]
[08:17] <aphexian> mv
[08:17] <acuozzo> *sudo* (if needed) [file]  cp [dir]
[08:17] <ubuntu> thanks.
[08:17] <mnoir> ubuntu: man mv
[08:17] <acuozzo> oh yeah :)
[08:17] <acuozzo> So any i915 gpu users?
[08:17] <crippledcanary> alwa: have you got it to work with your router using nework-manager when disconnected from cable?
[08:18] <ubuntu> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/windows/Drivers.zip': Read-only file system
[08:18] <ubuntu> what does that mean?
[08:18] <sysrpl> hjmills: it would be hard to install anything on it as it has no video to see what i need to respond to during install
[08:18] <acuozzo> ah wait