[12:14] <Ponch0> I can't find any of those packages, I don't know how to remove them
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:15] <abc_> ActionParsnip, thankx ^_^||
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v ^rc
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: shows the installed kernels, remove the metapackage and the running kernel, then run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-someversionnumbershere
[12:16] <gry> hrm, strange word of advice. 'remove the ... running kernel'
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: do not remove the running kernel or its extra configs or whatever it's called
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: lets make this super easy
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print $2'} | grep -v ^rc; uname -a; lsb_release -a
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: us a pastebin to hold the output
[12:18] <Grraff> actionparsnip
[12:18] <prasad> sudo not working it gives : sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writable by owner
[12:18] <prasad> sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[12:19] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/L8ynL3VQ
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> prasad: then chmod is as necessary
[12:19] <Grraff> Actionparsnip : thank you very much. I reinstalled nvidia-current, as your adviced; It works now.
[12:19] <forsaquarii_> in my vncserver log file, i find: Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. MIght this be the reason why I cannot connect?
[12:20] <prasad> yes , i gave chmod also -> chmod -v 644 sudo/
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: http://pastie.org/8253290
[12:21] <prasad> it gives : chmod: changing permissions of `sudo/': Operation not permitted
[12:21] <prasad> failed to change mode of `sudo/' from 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) to 0644 (rw-r--r--)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: see how I removed the 'linux-image-generic' from the list as well as 'linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic' and 'linux-image-extra-3.8.0-29-generic' as they are the runnig kernel
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Grraff: cool
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: why have you been mesing with the sudoers file, especially in such an insecure way
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: do you know what 777 does?
[12:22] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: I do see, and I do love you
[12:22] <Ponch0> thanks!
[12:22] <prasad> yes , it gives all permission
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Ponch0: simple stuff bro
[12:22] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> prasad: yes, to ANYONE. Me you, guest, unauthenticated users, anyone ever
[12:22] <Ponch0> ActionParsnip: true, can't be harder then that
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> prasad: great security, yeah?
[12:23] <usr13> ActionParsnip: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |awk {'print $2'} |grep -v ^rc; uname -r  #Little more concise
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> usr13: aye but its been a long day, hence the pastebin. I could've grep -v'd stuff but i wussed out
[12:24] <usr13> ActionParsnip: dpkg -l |grep linux-image |awk {'print $2'} |grep -v ^rc; uname -r |pastebinit
[12:24] <forsaquarii_> in my vncserver log file, i find: Window manager warning: Log level 32: could not find XKB extension. MIght this be the reason why I cannot connect?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: you will now need to boot back to root recovery console and chown the file to 0644 like it is supposed to be, then leave it the hell alone
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: if you want to edit sudoers use:  sudo visudo
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> prasad: that is how you edit it and you wont get issues
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> prasad: throwing 777 around in Linux will break your OS (as you can see)
[12:25] <crazyhorse> any suggestions on which ftp client to install on ubuntu? i'd prefer something that's very secure?
[12:25] <crazyhorse> in terms of sandboxing access etc
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: ftp is not secure in any way
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: credentials and data are all sent in plaintext
[12:25] <usr13> crazyhorse: How about ssh?
[12:25] <crazyhorse> yeah i don't care about that, i said in terms of sandboxing
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> crazyhorse: you could chroot to an ubuntu ISO and ftp there but it doesnt give any security
[12:26] <Pici> crazyhorse: I believe  that vsftp has some sort of chroot options.
[12:27] <crazyhorse> Pici: ahh good
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> i wish people would let ftp die
[12:27] <prasad> thank  you , i will try
[12:27] <crazyhorse> somebody must have written some ftp software that actually works
[12:27] <usr13> Pici: So does proftpd
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse  gftp
[12:28] <gvo> crazyhorse: ftp works, it's just very insecure
[12:28] <crazyhorse> i don't care about the security for the client
[12:28] <crazyhorse> i only care about the security on the server side
[12:28] <gvo> proftpd will give you that
[12:28] <crazyhorse> cool
[12:28] <gvo> Configured right.
[12:29] <crazyhorse> MonkeyDust: i'll check that out too
[12:29] <crazyhorse> gvo: haha yeah
[12:29] <daftykins> also, SSL'd FTP exists anyway
[12:29] <Pici> daftykins: its evil.
[12:29] <crazyhorse> daftykins: needs to be vanilla
[12:29] <daftykins> doesn't mean it doesn't work :D
[12:29] <crazyhorse> daftykins: otherwise ssh / rsync does the trick
[12:30] <daftykins> fair enough
[12:30] <daftykins> just hate to see people go 'rah rah plaintext' when it's not the only way
[12:31] <crazyhorse> yeah these are for devices connecting over private networks for firmware updates
[12:31] <Johnny_Linux> ftp is nsa approved
[12:31] <crazyhorse> I didn't design the devices.. i wouldn't have chosen ftp as the communications mechanism
[12:31] <usr13> crazyhorse: Sometimes you don't need a lot of security.
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> after communism, nsa is the 'new paranoia'
[12:32] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[12:32] <thepeopleschamp> wasnt there someone interested in a macbook earlier here?
[12:32] <Johnny_Linux> tell that to lavabit
[12:32] <crazyhorse> usr13: for industrial supervision and control you'd think it would be neccessary
[12:33] <usr13> crazyhorse: I said "sometimes"
[12:34] <usr13> crazyhorse: Network security is part of the equation
[12:34] <usr13> larger part
[12:43] <usr13> crazyhorse: You can also have your server accept ftp connections from certain clients.
[12:44] <crazyhorse> usr13: yeah, doesn't work
[12:44] <crazyhorse> because client's ips' are dynamic
[12:44] <crazyhorse> and the telco can't even give me ip address ranges.. because i quote "it changes every week"
[12:45] <moses> whats the command to look up how to copy a dir?
[12:46] <Pici> moses: man cp # its cp -r that you are likely looking for
[12:46] <usr13> crazyhorse: http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/467
[12:46] <larsjaa> http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/467
[12:46] <moses> whats the shortcut to the home directory?
[12:47] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[12:47] <moses> something to do with ~
[12:47] <azerus> has anyone seen this before?
[12:47] <azerus> moses: cd ~
[12:48] <larsjaa> usr13: you can also use port knocking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_knocking
[12:49] <moses> whats the man page to rename a file?
[12:49] <butch128> I'm worried my server is compromised - I have a folder "/var/tmp" that has a program k, ka, and a file called k.c
[12:49] <k1l_> moses: use rm
[12:49] <k1l_> moses: nooo, wait
[12:50] <k1l_> moses: sorry meant mv  (not rm)
[12:50] <OerHeks> moses a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:51] <caboose885> butch128: check the access logs to your server. That will let you know whats been going on
[12:51] <caboose885> butch128: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[12:53] <moses> ty k1l_
[12:53] <moses> ty OerHeks that is quite comprehensive
[12:53] <OerHeks> moses have fun
[12:53] <memand> Can I use gparted to make a disk (/dev/sda) into two disks (/dev/sda & /dev/sdb)?
[12:54] <k1l_> memand: you cant do that
[12:55] <ChogyDan> so, if my webcam works in 32bit, but not in 64bit.  Should I file a bug?  or should I just chock it up to the mysteries of whatever
[12:56] <OerHeks> memand you can make sda1 and sda2
[12:56] <memand> k1l_: The reason I'm asking is that I want to try making LFS but I'd like to make it on my local hard drive, but maybe I could just resize the patitions I all ready have and make some more partitions for LFS to live in?
[12:57] <k1l_> memand: yes, you could create more partitions (be aware of th 4 primary limit)
[12:57] <wzt2617> memand: maybe use a virtual machine instead?
[12:57] <crazyhorse> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent. << i get this every day from ssh-add
[12:58] <crazyhorse> any ideas?
[12:58] <memand> wzt2617: I have been thinking about that but if I like the LFS experience I'd like to be able to let it take over the whole system
[12:58] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: ssh-agent is not running or the environment vars pointing to it are unset/wrongly set
[12:59] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: weird
[12:59] <crazyhorse> hmm
[12:59] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: check content of SSH_AUTH_SOCK and SSH_AGENT_PID
[12:59] <crazyhorse> both blank
[13:00] <crazyhorse> 1000      4332  0.0  0.0  14652   784 ?        Ss   Aug19   0:00 ssh-agent << but ssh agent is definitly running
[13:00] <memand> k1l_: How would you recommend doing (my current system has 2 primary partitions and I'd like to let the LFS system have a partition for /boot swap / & /home in that order)?
[13:01] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: even if the agent is running, you have to be in the session in which is was started. otherwise you have to set those vars manually.
[13:01] <crazyhorse> ohhh
[13:01] <crazyhorse> how can i get it to start up automatically?
[13:01] <k1l_> memand: just put up a extended one and putt the stuff in there. for recommendations for LFS see he LFS docu
[13:01] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: so check the env of a process in that session
[13:02] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: ssh-agent should start automatically in desktop sessions
[13:02] <memand> k1l_: k, thanks :)
[13:02] <crazyhorse> hmm, well so probably not working then.. anyway how do i fix it?
[13:02] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: that depends heavily on the desktop you are using
[13:04] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: default install
[13:04] <crazyhorse> unitity
[13:04] <crazyhorse> unity
[13:05] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: i don't use unity. not even ubuntu anymore. but ssh-agent should start as part of the session (should be the parent process of the window manager or something)
[13:06] <crazyhorse> wzt2617: yeah it's quite annoying how many problems you have out the box with ubuntu
[13:06] <ihre> Do I need the mediabuntu PPA for proper VLC-nox transcoding support on Ubuntu x64 12.04?
[13:07] <wzt2617> crazyhorse: check the output of "ps xf" and locate ssh-agent in the process hierarchy
[13:07] <Guest28594> Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:07] <Guest28594> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:08] <guest8998> Hi there ... is there a way to find files in terminal, between a date range?
[13:08] <ihre> guest8998: "find . -type d -mtime +1 -print -quit" for files older than 24h
[13:08] <ihre> directories older than 24h*
[13:09] <guest8998> ihre, is it possible to set a range date, like between Ago 01 and Ago 31?
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:09] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:09] <ChogyDan> !pastebin | Eh123
[13:10] <Eh123> !pastebin Guest28594: Hello guys, I've got this error msg "Reading package lists... Error!
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Translation-en
[13:10] <Eh123> Guest28594: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." after apt-get update or ...
[13:10] <ihre> guest8998: yes, find . -name -mtime +31 -mtime -62 for files older than 31 days, but less than 62 days
[13:10] <k1l_> !patience | Eh123
[13:11] <ahm> hi im trying to do the dual boot thing i have windows 8 i downloadeded ubuntu but my laptop is under uefi mode on BIOS can we run ubuntu on UEFI mode because i have to keep switching BIOS t Legacy any way around it
[13:11] <guest8998> ihre, thanks for the info ... and just to make sure, is it possible to set a date on the command instead of "x days" ? this command will be used several times, so it will be a little hard do do the math all the time to count the days
[13:12] <ihre> guest8998: im not sure to be honest
[13:12] <Eh123> any suggestion?
[13:12] <guest8998> ihre, that's ok, I'll try to use the way you said, thanks :)
[13:13] <ahm>  hi im trying to do the dual boot thing i have windows 8 i downloadeded ubuntu but my laptop is under uefi mode on BIOS can we run ubuntu on UEFI mode because i have to keep switching BIOS t Legacy any way around it
[13:13] <k1l_> !patience | ahm
[13:13] <jonasty123dm> ahm, the Ubuntu LTS (12.04) and the latest Ubuntu (13.04) is compatible with Secure Boot, you have to boot the CD /USB into UEFI mode
[13:13] <Eh123> anybody?!!
[13:13] <jonasty123dm> *are
[13:14] <ahm> ok cool thanks
[13:14] <usr13> Eh123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[13:14] <jonasty123dm> Eh123, have you tried running sudo apt-get update first?
[13:15] <ahm> i booted from CD last time 13.4 i had to switch to legacy
[13:16] <ahm> switching to uefi runs windows switching to legacy runs uefi
[13:16] <Eh123> usr13: i tried that before! nothing happened
[13:16] <ahm> ubunty sorry
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> problem there with graphic drivers : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1377004570.jpg
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> the 2 first options doesn't do anything
[13:16] <Aliekzhi> any idea ?
[13:16] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: nope! i tried anything via apt-get and get that error
[13:17] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: apt-get install and remove doesnt work
[13:17] <jonasty123dm> Eh123, usr13, just posted this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err  This might solve your problem
[13:18] <butch128> Is there a way to determine if this is a malicious process?
[13:18] <butch128> www-data  5650  0.0  0.0  17856  1444 ?        S    Aug14   0:00 bash
[13:18] <Eh123> jonasty123dm: i tried this way, and doesnt work for me
[13:18] <usr13> Eh123: sudo apt-get clean  |pastebinit #Send us resulting url.
[13:19] <Eh123> usr13: nothing happened
[13:19] <Eh123> usr13: no result
[13:19] <ChogyDan> rrrrrrr, so there is no way to get help for webcams?  Is it better to just spend the extra money and get a full fledged video recorder?
[13:19] <usr13> Eh123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:20] <usr13> Eh123: sudo apt-get update  |pastebinit #Send us resulting url.
[13:20] <revolver14> Hello everyone, new here. I just install a ubuntu desktop 12.04.2 amd64, my video adapter is amd radeon hd 6450 and its first run make the screen display randomly, I can't even get into the setting interface! How can I fix it?
[13:20] <ChogyDan> Eh123: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[13:20] <Eh123> usr13: oops. i have kubuntu 11.04
[13:20] <mjayk> revolver14: how do you mean display randomly ?
[13:21] <usr13> Eh123: That explains that
[13:21] <Eh123> usr13: i forget to say. sorry
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> problem there with graphic drivers : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1377004570.jpg
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> any idea ?
[13:21] <Eh123> ok
[13:21] <Aliekzhi> the 2 first options doesn't do anything
[13:21] <Eh123> usr13: lemme see and try
[13:22] <jonasty123dm> Aliekzhi, are you using the open source drivers or the proprietary drivers ?
[13:22] <usr13> Eh123: EOL was October 28, 2012
[13:22] <Aliekzhi> jonasty123dm, proprietary
[13:22] <Aliekzhi> jonasty123dm, nvidia
[13:23] <revolver14> I mean it didn't go black but its color was random. And I can't get into the operating interface.
[13:23] <ismdeep> Hi
[13:23] <k1l_> Eh123: 11.04 is way out of support
[13:23] <k1l_> !eol | Eh123
[13:23] <mjayk> revolver14: can you get into a terminal ctrl+alt+t
[13:24] <eden_> e
[13:24] <usr13> Eh123: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades is for you
[13:24] <k1l_> Eh123: so you are glad you only have that problems so far. read the instructions to get a supported release (might better go with a new install)
[13:24] <eden_> better gpu means for the Desktop environment to move more fluently?
[13:24] <ChogyDan> did Eh123 try sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf  ?
[13:24] <usr13> Eh123: Do you have /home/ on separate partition?
[13:25] <revolver14> Even I can but I can't see a character.
[13:25] <k1l_> ChogyDan: 11.04 is not supported. maybe there is no packages in the repos anymore
[13:25] <usr13> Eh123: If so, get 12.04 and instll leaving /home/ as is.
[13:25] <jonasty123dm> AlanBell, did you have the same issue when you used the open source (nouveau) drivers?
[13:25] <usr13> *install*
[13:25] <mjayk> revolver14: not even when you type ?
[13:25] <jonasty123dm> AlanBell, sorry I got the wrong person :p
[13:26] <usr13> Eh123: Or, you can just back-up /home/ and restore files afterward.
[13:26] <jonasty123dm> Aliekzhi, , did you have the same issue when you used the open source (nouveau) drivers?
[13:27] <revolver14> I'm just a beginner and I download this file and install: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso, I don't know any solution except try another type.
[13:28] <mjayk> revolver14: what do you see at the moment there is not enough information to help right now
[13:29] <revolver14> I get into the live ubuntu interface with nomodeset opinion normally.
[13:29] <eden_> better gpu means for the Desktop environment to move more fluently?
[13:30] <mjayk> revolver14: nomodeset tells the kernel not to load video drivers
[13:30] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[13:30] <azerus> has anyone seen this before?
[13:31] <revolver14> It seems that my video adapter needs additional opinion or driver.
[13:31] <Hakameda> Would there be a specfic channel for getting some help with a script for Ubuntu?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> azerus  AD is active directory? windows?
[13:31] <azerus> yes
[13:31] <minimec> eden_: normally yes, but the rest of the hardware has also some importance, specially the amount of ram, or the speed of the harddrives.
[13:31] <mjayk> revolver14: it shouldnt do, it should load just fine with the preinstalled open drivers
[13:31] <azerus> winbind/samba is working fine through AD
[13:32] <mjayk> revolver14: but you may need to switch to prop drivers after the install
[13:32] <azerus> the require_membership_of option in pam_winbind is being ignore if the user has the 'user must change password at next logon' flag
[13:33] <Hakameda> Would there be a specfic channel for getting some help with a script for Ubuntu?
[13:33] <revolver14> By the way, what's the alternate install CD, can it fix the problem?
[13:34] <mjayk> revolver14: you need to fine the problem first
[13:34] <magdur> suggest a free vpn service
[13:34] <azerus> vps.me
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> azerus  and is the other side an ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server, if you don't get an answer here
[13:34] <eden_> When my laptop is not plugged in my wireless mouse stops responding for some seconds -respond-working-respond-working the same pattern all the time
[13:35] <azerus> MonkeyDust: its ubuntu desktop
[13:35] <azerus> 13.04
[13:35] <revolver14> Thanks all.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> eden_: is it bluetooth, or does it have its own reciever?
[13:37] <eden_> @ActionParsnip own
[13:37] <magdur> guys suggest a free vpn service
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> eden_: tried a different USB port?
[13:37] <eden_> ActionParsnip, yes
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> eden_: sounds like the usb turns off when not on mains, do you have the latest BIOS?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> eden_: are there bugs reported?
[13:38] <minimec> eden_: Probably the USB port or the mouse have a stand by mode, and the device is going into that mode, when on battery. I would install the tool powertop and check for such a setting. 'Good' would mean saving power, 'Bad' full power. Put it to 'Bad'.
[13:38] <eden_> ActionParsnip, yes i have the latest bios
[13:38] <ChogyDan> Hakameda: just ask, if the script is too generic, you may want to try #bash or something
[13:38] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i have laptop-mode tools isntalled
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, wut i think problem fixed changed the usb port Hhahaha
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, Wow howw i never thought of that
[13:39] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i feel dumb
[13:40] <eden_> ActionParsnip, minimec thanks
[13:40] <Eagleman> i got a script i want to run as a different user with no login, however it needs to run in a screen and it needs to be viseble when i use screen -ls as root, any idea how i can do that?
[13:41] <wzt2617> Eagleman: start screen in detached mode
[13:42] <wzt2617> Eagleman: from a init script
[13:43] <awaken_gylan1979> greetings everyone
[13:44] <mads-> awaken_gylan1979, be greeted
[13:44] <Eagleman> wzt2617, it is just like ./scripttorun
[13:44] <Eagleman> no init
[13:44] <awaken_gylan1979> :)
[13:44] <zaggynl> anyone here using an x-fi with pulseaudio?
[13:44] <zaggynl> I'm missing a bunch of sliders
[13:45] <konadr1> hi all, I'm trying to get pam_groupdn to filter out my LDAP group to allow only certain LDAP groups to login to a given system, my system still allows the user to login even though they aren't in the group. Does anyone have experience with pam_groupdn
[13:46] <awaken_gylan1979> i have a problem after installing elementary os luna stable edition, but it fail to start at the 1st boot.. and stop at after "start domain [ok]" do anyone know how to solve the problem?
[13:47] <mads-> awaken_gylan1979, think you joined the wrong channel. This is ubuntu
[13:47] <mjayk> awaken_gylan1979: better to try in the elementary os support
[13:48] <marianne> good morning guys... question on video cards... based on what questions you are asked here, is there one type of video card that seems to be problematic?
[13:48] <awaken_gylan1979> my primary os is ubuntu 13.04 too...
[13:48] <jonasty123dm> marianne, I have had lots of pro
[13:48] <bean> awaken_gylan1979: doesn't matter -- we only support ubuntu here.
[13:48] <jonasty123dm> marianne, I have had lots of problems with AMD/ATI cards
[13:49] <mjayk> marianne: ATI drivers seam to have more problems than Nvidia
[13:49] <awaken_gylan1979> ic...
[13:49] <awaken_gylan1979> then i would like to ask about my ubuntu 13.04 problem...
[13:49] <six86> Hello. I created a fakeRAID, and I can see it if i manually run "mdadm --assemble --scan", but after the reboot the array is gone and i have to run "mdadm --assemble --scan" again. How can i get this done automatically?
[13:49] <bean> does that not make sense, awaken_gylan1979, we don't know anything about elementary.
[13:49] <mjayk> awaken_gylan1979: ask away :D
[13:50] <awaken_gylan1979> i am sick of installing nvidia driver...
[13:50] <tomreyn> six86: mdadm manages software raids, i don't think it manages fakeraids
[13:50] <mjayk> thats a question ?
[13:50] <wzt2617> Eagleman: sudo screen -dmS my su -c /path/to/script otheruser
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> awaken_gylan1979  type     /join #elementary   it's not supported here, you won't find help here
[13:51] <marianne> mjayk: I currently have Nvidia and since I'm doing a build from scratch, just want to make sure I'm not buying myself a completely unknown issue
[13:51] <awaken_gylan1979> it doesn't operate well.. after the clean installation, i street to install bumblebee..the latest version..
[13:51] <wzt2617> Eagleman: this will start a detached screen session owned by root running the script as user "otheruser"
[13:51] <zaggynl> both amd and nvidia will work but nvidia drivers for linux tend to be better
[13:51] <mjayk> marianne: i have 2 ati cards when they work its fine but there seams to be an underlying idea which is probably true that nvidia have alot better linux support driver wise
[13:52] <awaken_gylan1979> :) i am asking about nvidia driver on my ubuntu 13.04...
[13:52] <otend> with nvidia: are we including Optimus?
[13:52] <six86> tomreyn: thats what I found and it works when invoked manually... At least i think i have a fakeraid. It's an intel controller (Thinkstation D30, C600 chipset)
[13:52] <otend> because my Optimus setup is really buggy, especially under Unity, which it can rather quickly crash
[13:53] <mjayk> otend: i dont think Optimus is good on linux atm but i dont see how thats a problem as he is building a desktop?
[13:53] <otend> oh.  sorry, didn't catch everything.
[13:53] <otend> was curious as to whether that was relevant
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> otend: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display   do you see an Intel GPU too
[13:53] <mjayk> otend: there was a question mark because i wasnt sure if optimus was jsut for laptops / power stuff
[13:54] <marianne> mjayk: This will only be my second from the ground up build... my current 'puter was built about 6 years ago.... so I'm just lurking in the room to see what kinds of issues i might run into during an install
[13:54] <otend> there is indeed an Intel GPU.  I've got Bumblebee going, and Intel is the primary.
[13:54] <tomreyn> six86: assuming what you setup is actually a software RAID (setup using mdadm or the ubuntu installer) then it should be automatically assembled at boot, based on information stored in the initrd. the initrd is often updated automatically when you make changes which need to go there, but you can do this manually running "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[13:54] <awaken_gylan1979> i am using nvidia geforce 540M, can anyone please guide me the way to make this work on my ubuntu13.04..
[13:54] <otend> and yeah, it's only for laptops and power saving
[13:55] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: did you go into the software center and load the additional drivers?
[13:55] <mjayk> marianne: ive build a few in the last 5 years or so and i believe you will find it ALOT easier than you did 6 years ago, more and more hardware just works
[13:55] <otend> wait, since this is an M, are you using an Optimus setup, or is it pure Nvidia?
[13:55] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes.. but nothing listed...
[13:55] <Marlnee> what happen to the text printed on screen while i use "screen" command !
[13:56] <six86> tomreyn: already did that. I also reconfigured mdadm. But no luck so far. When I run mdadm reassemble i see my RAID as /dev/md/Data, but its not assembled automatically
[13:56] <bean> Marlnee: what do you mean?
[13:56] <mjayk> marianne: im off goodluck with your build
[13:56] <marianne> mjayk: I've learned more during that time too.... but I can't think of any better way to spend a rainy afternoon...later
[13:56] <tomreyn> six86: do your logs say why it is not assembled automatically?
[13:56] <otend> awaken_gylan1979, is this an Optimus system (both Intel GPU and Nvidia GPU)?  if so, things may get somewhat weird.
[13:56] <magdur> guys how to change my dns adress ?
[13:57] <tithan> MY COMPUTEER WINDOW 8  PROTECT OTER OS EVEN COMPLETED STILL WILL LOAD WINDOW 8 LOADER
[13:57] <otend> what
[13:57] <six86> tomreyn: where can i find mdadm logs?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !caps | tithan
[13:57] <otend> oh
[13:57] <otend> oh boy, UEFI!
[13:57] <Marlnee> bean all text printed inside screen command iam not able to scroll up to see it
[13:57] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes.. it is an optimus system....(my laptop model: Dell XPS 15 L502X)
[13:57] <tomreyn> six86: check /var/log/syslog
[13:57] <bean> Marlnee: yeah, you have to go into copy mode to scroll up
[13:57] <otend> have you looked into Bumblebee, awaken_gylan1979?
[13:57] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: Look for additional drivers, not Nvidia
[13:57] <magdur> guys how to change my dns adress ?
[13:58] <otend> that may be pertinent
[13:58] <tithan> UBOTTU THANX
[13:58] <six86> tomreyn: DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md126, component device Wrong-Level
[13:58] <wzt2617> Marlnee: ctrl-a esc   then scroll up
[13:58] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: yes..i installed it street after a clean install of ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[13:58] <bean> magdur: that isn't an ubuntu question unless you're hosting your own DNS server on ubuntu
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes, in additional drivers...
[13:59] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: the things I have installed are NVidia binary X.Org driver
[13:59] <otend> hm.  can you give me what error you get when attempting to install drivers?
[13:59] <tomreyn> magdur: if you want to change the nameservers used by your applications when resolving hostnames to ip addresses and you use network manager to manage your wireless or wired network connection then you can edit the connection profile you are currently using and set the DNS servers to use manually
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: but it is empty...doesn't list anything..
[13:59] <otend> oh.
[13:59] <otend> that
[13:59] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: 13.04?
[13:59] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: but  in ubuntu 12.10, it does listed out.
 i did it but it didnt work
[14:00] <marianne> I'm running 12.04
[14:00] <otend> it should be recognized by applications if you run them using primusrun
[14:00] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: 12.04 here... I only do LTS versions
[14:00] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: yes
[14:00] <otend> is that where the concern lies, or are we trying to upgrade existing drivers?
[14:00] <tomreyn> six86: that's over my head, but it sounds like one of the RAID devices may have incorrect metadata. check the detailed information on the various devices which form the RAID and make sure it matches.
[14:00] <otend> since bumblebee, if the site's instructions are followed, installs (old, but working) drivers
[14:01] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: ic...
[14:01] <BluesKaj> magdur, set your dns IP in your router/modem settings page if you use network manager
[14:01] <tithan> HOW I CAN MADE THE CD WHICH CAN USE MORE THAN TWO SOFTWARES BY AUTODEPLOYMENT INSTALLATION BY USING ONE COMPUTER ANY INSTALL TO DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS
[14:01] <otend> awaken_gylan1979, what happens when you run "primusrun glxgears" in the terminal?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> tithan: turn off your capslock
[14:02] <marianne> awaken_gylan1979: try this site -- http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html
[14:02] <Marlnee> wzt2617 : not work !
[14:02] <bean> !caps | tithan
[14:02] <tomreyn> magdur: which server did you try to set, how did you do it, and what was the result (explain how you noticed it "didn't work")
[14:03] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: the graphic appear and running well.
[14:03] <otend> then your nvidia card is working
[14:03] <awaken_gylan1979> marianne: ok thanks..
[14:03] <Wodabe> hi, is there a Ubuntu keymap somewhere I can download and print?
[14:03] <otend> what are we trying to do with the card?
[14:04] <_N1X_> hello overyone (how can i swtich from xfce4 to twm) !
[14:04] <tithan> HOW I CAN MADE THE CD WHICH CAN USE MORE THAN TWO SOFTWARES BY AUTODEPLOYMENT INSTALLATION BY USING ONE COMPUTER ANY INSTALL TO DIFFERENT CUSTOMERS
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Wodabe: hold down your Windows key and you will see shortcuts
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> tithan  caps
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !ops | tithan
[14:04] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: but my unity doesn't load =.=' and my google earth also quit itself after some period..
[14:04] <otend> i know your pain, sort of
[14:04] <six86> tomreyn: is this useful to you?
[14:05] <otend> Unity loads for me, but is highly prone to a system-halting crash
[14:05] <six86> tomreyn: thats the output after manually assembling. There are some log lines in syslog too
[14:05] <otend> chalk it up to the inherent instability of non-LTS releases, I guess
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  try installing twm, logout, switch, login
[14:05] <magdur> i cant access www.istasy10.com with  with comodo dns   <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> but it didnt work. i do from edit connections
[14:05] <otend> having an Optimus setup on Linux is generally a recipe for misery
[14:05] <otend> I can attest to that
[14:05] <magdur> i cant access www.istasy10.com with  with comodo dns   <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> but it didnt work. i do from edit connections  <tomreyn>
[14:06] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i did installed twm , and logout but i cant see twm in session list
[14:06] <awaken_gylan1979> otend: i am currently using emerald for windows decoration and cario dock ask the interface in order to open everything... >,<||
[14:06] <otend> i just settled on xubuntu
[14:06] <otend> since compiz and our setups do not play nice
[14:07] <otend> i'm hoping things will be different after Mir
[14:07] <otend> for now, there's not much we can do other than not use Unity.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> otend: no bad thing :)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> otend: could use Unity2D :)
[14:08] <tomreyn> six86: sorry what's useful to me?
[14:08] <otend> Unity2D's been dropped before 13.04, unfortunately
[14:09] <six86> tomreyn: argh forgot the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006528/
[14:09] <awaken_gylan1979> mind to ask which version of ubuntu is more stable for nvidia driver in term of setup and operation??
[14:09] <tithan> unattended installation
[14:09] <awaken_gylan1979> mind to ask which version of ubuntu is more stable , reliable and easy for nvidia driver in term of setup and operation??
[14:10] <otend> well, I had the repeated crashes in 12.04
[14:10] <_N1X_> hello overyone (how can i swtich from xfce4 to twm) !
[14:10] <otend> so moving back to that will not help
[14:10] <otend> I'd advise switching to not Unity
[14:11] <tomreyn> magdur: the first nameserver you provided does seem to resolve the hostname properly. the second one did not, but this may be different for you and me (since i'm in a different network than you).
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> _N1X_: select it from login screen
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  i guess twm is to be used in a terminal login, you can obtain this by using gdm instead of lghtdm
[14:11] <awaken_gylan1979> cario dock is not stable as well, always crash.... .>,<||   how about gnome shell 3.8, please advice...
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> awaken_gylan1979: install it and try, gnome-shell is in the epos
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> *repos
[14:12] <_N1X_> ActionParsnip: it not listed in login screen
[14:12] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i will try to install gdm
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> awaken_gylan1979  try a few DE's and decide which one you prefer
[14:12] <magdur> thanks <tomreyn>
[14:13] <awaken_gylan1979> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks for suggestion...
[14:13] <awaken_gylan1979> MonkeyDust: thanks for advice too..
[14:13] <ChogyDan> what is twn?
[14:13] <tomreyn> magdur: editing the connection settings / profile is the right way to get started. so you select the connection to edit there, then you click on  "edit", then "ipv4 settings", then set "method" to "automatic (dhcp), addresses only" and specify the dns servers to use, separated by command and space, in the "DNS servers" field. you then need to reconnect using this profile if it was previously active. that should be it.
[14:13] <jonasty123dm> _N1X_, isn't twm X11's window manager? it's the base for ALL other Window managers and desktop environments
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: tiling window manager
[14:13] <bean> tithan: is there a different language that you speak better than english? they might be able to help you more in a language specific channe;
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> ChogyDan  wm means windows manager, the t would refer to the maintainer's name
[14:14] <_N1X_> jonasty123dm: yes it is a window manager , ... but i want to run it
[14:14] <ChogyDan> mk, thanks
[14:14] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  installing gdm rightnow !
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  use gdm, logout, select terminal, then type twm&   <-- with the &
[14:15] <doomlord__> is it possible to remap an individual key: i'd like to swap - _  .. invert what shift does there.
[14:16] <tomreyn> six86: so your md device IDs are unusually high. normally those start at 0. 126 and 127 is strange, unless you set this on purpose. i assume it should still work, though.
[14:16] <tomreyn> six86: please also post the contents of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[14:16] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: downloading speed 50KB/s
[14:17] <six86> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006555/
[14:17] <thejollygrimreap> i'
[14:18] <thejollygrimreap> i'm about to upgrade my pc and go back to ubuntu, what brand of graphics card isn't going to give me the kind of trouble these nvidia cards have?
[14:18] <thejollygrimreap> around drivers
[14:18] <Johnny_Linux> actually, nvidia is good
[14:18] <Johnny_Linux> just get a decent card
[14:19] <thejollygrimreap> i've just spent 5 hours trying to install the drivers for a nvidia card i had
[14:19] <Johnny_Linux> did you use nvidia-current ?
[14:20] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: installing ... :D
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> yep xserver won't start
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  careful: if you don't like twm, i'm not sure if you can easily switch back to lightdm
[14:20] <_N1X_> lol :D MonkeyDust :O
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> the only way i can get xserver to start is to delete xorg.conf
[14:20] <thejollygrimreap> with the nvidia card in there
[14:21] <Johnny_Linux> sometimes installing anything other than nvidia-current first causes problems, on your next build use it first
[14:21] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file
[14:21] <Johnny_Linux> people always make that mistake
[14:22] <thejollygrimreap> where do i find xorg.0.log ?
[14:22] <daftykins> /var/log/
[14:24] <thejollygrimreap> http://pastebin.com/tt888YHX
[14:24] <tomreyn> six86: okay so you seem to have a fakeraid indeed, and one which mdadm understands, http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/matrixstorage_sb.htm
[14:26] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  i stoped lightdm , started gdm , i got gnome3 login when i login to switch me xfce4 :D,
[14:26] <tomreyn> six86: based on how i understand your current mdadm configuration file, a single raid device with a single member is configured there only. you will need to correct your mdadm configuration file to have the raids assembled automatically on boot.
[14:26] <[DS]Matej> /
[14:26] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust:  i stoped lightdm , started gdm , i got gnome3 login when i login it switch me xfce4 :D,
[14:27] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: I'm not totally leet in reading those files, but I think I'm seeing an intel video card driver.  No Nvidia driver...
[14:27] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  select terminal login, in gdm
[14:27] <six86> tomreyn: but it works when I assemble it manually?!
[14:27] <thejollygrimreap> ChogDan:anything intel is the builtin one on the motherboard,
[14:28] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: can you pastebin `dkms status`?
[14:28] <_N1X_> MonkeyDust: i can't see termianl login  option in gnome3 login page
[14:29] <thejollygrimreap> ChogDan: how do i get that?
[14:29] <daftykins> you type it in a terminal
[14:29] <tomreyn> six86: that's what you said, right? if you assemble it manually edplaining mdadm what it needs to do then this is possible. on the other hand when you posted mdstat earlier the md127 device was actually inactive
[14:29] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: using the ` is a reference to typing something right into the terminal
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> _N1X_  either gdm or lightdm is the login page, not gnome3
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> nvidia, 71.86.15, 3.2.0-4-686-pae, i686: installed
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> virtualbox, 4.1.18, 3.2.0-4-686-pae, i686: installed
[14:30] <thejollygrimreap> thats the only output
[14:31] <ahawkins> I'm trying to install build-essential on a fresh amazon AMI. I'm getting the error that it's available but referred to by another package. How should I continue?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !info build-essential
[14:31] <six86> tomreyn: when I just do "mdadm --examine --scan" the array is recognized under /dev/md/Data, and that should be exactly what's in the config?!
[14:31] <tomreyn> six86:i would recommend against using a fakeraid unless you know how it works and how to recover it in case of a failure.
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: its in the main repo...
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: have you ran:  sudo apt-get update
[14:31] <john_rambo> I am uploading a file to Ubuntu One ......I can see data transfer going on on my router but the Ubuntu ONe interface kepps saying 0 bytes of 5GB
[14:31] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: ya
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:32] <six86> tomreyn: Actually I understand how it works, what I do not understand is why it is not assembled at boot time. Actually I have a duakl boot and so need a fakeRAID
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> six86: you can have a dual boot not on raid
[14:33] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: nvidia 71 seems old.  Maybe you are using an old distro, or are grabbing the wrong nvidia drivers?
[14:33] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: im just guessing.  The oldest I see is 96
[14:33] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: it's an old card
[14:33] <six86> ActionParsnip: Just want to use the raid array from wuindows AND linux. The OSs are on a seperate SSD
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> what series is it
[14:34] <tomreyn> six86: with an mdadm raid (i.e. I don't know about fakeraid) the output of "mdadm --examine --scan" while all devices are assembled and active should indeed look similar as that of "grep ^ARRAY /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf"
[14:34] <six86> After all i read this is possible
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:34] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, alt+f2 additional drivers
[14:34] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: ^ what blueskaj said
[14:34] <Johnny_Linux> 173 usually works good for older cards
[14:34] <six86> tomreyn: the output is IDENTICAL to the line in the conf file
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ahawkins: its a simple terminal command, single line of outpit so no need to pastebin
[14:36] <thejollygrimreap> i can try the 173 one ,  whats an easy way to actually install it though
[14:36] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: getting it now.
[14:37] <Confused> I have a Dell Poweredge 2950 that I'm putting Ubuntu Server 12.04LTS on. I have a 80Gb HDD at /dev/sda that I have installed the system to. I have three 3TB drives that I am looking to setup a RAID5 Array with, yet fdisk only shows the drives have a capacity of 2.2TB. How can I check the drive controllers firmware version to see if there is an update to me using all 3TB of the drives in order to create my RAID 5 Array
[14:39] <mitch> what is the best way to remember tar options?
[14:39] <mitch> i ALWAYS forget them and I use Ubuntu DAILY at work! :(
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mitch: everybody remembers things differently
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> mitch  using and repeating them
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> mitch: if you mean the extraction, then install and use unp
[14:40] <Confused> I have a Dell Poweredge 2950 that I'm putting Ubuntu Server 12.04LTS on. I have a 80Gb HDD at /dev/sda that I have installed the system to. I have three 3TB drives that I am looking to setup a RAID5 Array with, yet fdisk only shows the drives have a capacity of 2.2TB. How can I check the drive controllers firmware version to see if there is an update to me using all 3TB of the drives in order to create my RAID 5 Array
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mitch  old skool: pen and paper
[14:40] <daftykins> mitch: tattoo the man page on your left hand
[14:40] <mitch> haha MonkeyDust, that sounds awful!
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: unp will look at the file and extract it in the right manner
[14:40] <mitch> daftykins, haha yeah maybe.
[14:40] <mitch> ActionParsnip, really? I've never done that. but that sounds handy
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: very
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> !info unp
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mitch: should be default installed imho
[14:41] <mitch> ActionParsnip, hmmm i'm gonna try taht one now. if it works, that might help me remember it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> mitch: unp filename.tar.gz   unp filename.rar    unp filename.zip    easy enough
[14:42] <Marlnee> what mean that error - xwin.c:21:22: fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[14:43] <tomreyn> six86: try this in mdadm.conf (no guarantees, might cause data loss):
[14:43] <tomreyn> ARRAY /dev/md127 metadata=imsm UUID=4ee0217f:2fc8dfa6:2829d3ba:af6595b2
[14:43] <tomreyn> ARRAY /dev/md126 container=4ee0217f:2fc8dfa6:2829d3ba:af6595b2 member=0 UUID=d36c2db1:170b717c:d4a40844:cf14381d
[14:44] <tomreyn> (and remember you'll need to update the initramfs)
[14:46] <dsalfran> hello everybody. I want to know if by rooting a galaxy s3 mini I can make it able to connect properly with ubuntu?
[14:46] <auronandace> dsalfran: define properly
[14:48] <dsalfran> right now is recognized at random times and the connection is intermitent. I would like also to be able to use it as a MTP device
[14:49] <Iridethelongbus> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu by using netboot and now its not excepting my password,which i know is correct as I only have one password i use for most things.  i tried to use passwd to changer it but it said "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[14:49] <Iridethelongbus> passwd: password unchanged" so then i tried doing "mount -rw remount /" but remoun was not an avaible comand. What should i do now?
[14:49] <ericbgsu> anyone recommend a rhythmbox alternative? it keeps tapping out my cpu after a while...or maybe theres a fix?
[14:49] <mbeierl> How do I get rid of the unity side bar and top panel?  I was happily running UbuntuStudio 13.04 and then decided to install AWN.  That somehow dragged in the whole sidebar and top panel thing and totally erased all my settings.  I just want to get rid of the side bar and top panel and get my real estate back.
[14:49] <DJones> ericbgsu: I use clementine as a music player
[14:50] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: theres loads of music players
[14:51] <DJones> dsalfran: Which version of Ubuntu are you using, as far as I remember the drivers for android devices were updated with 13.04, I have a Galaxy S3 which I can connect without any issues on 13.04, 12.10 and early it was a pig to get any connection
[14:51] <ericbgsu> I'll check it out...really liked rhythmbox, not sure why it slowly starts using up all my cores
[14:51] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: is it just to play music or do you need other features
[14:52] <ericbgsu> actually just to stream stations, don't care about mp3 or anything else
[14:52] <dsalfran> I'm using 13.04, but with kernel 3.10
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ericbgsu: grooveshark :)
[14:52] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: i think audacious can do that,
[14:52] <dsalfran> DJones: I'm using 13.04, but with kernel 3.10
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> dsalfran: we cannot support 3rd party kernels here
[14:52] <[Gentoo]> ericbgsu: but you could use mplayer on the cli, or a cli music player
[14:53] <dsalfran> ActionParsnip: I can go to the stable kernel but the problem with the phone is there still
[14:53] <DJones> dsalfran: All I can suggest is trying it with the default kernels, I haven't had issues with mine (albeit not the S3 mini, just the straight S3)
[14:54] <ericbgsu> I'll try them out...I stream local radio stations
[14:54] <ericbgsu> although grooveshark just got bookmarked, thanks.
[14:54] <doomlord__> anyone here use geany ... does it have a jump-to-next-error hotkey. i see a "next message" binding, which ithought it would be, but it doesn't seem to work
[14:55] <reisio> never used it as an IDE
[14:55] <reisio> try #geany
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> dsalfran: when you disconnect the phone, do you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[14:55] <dsalfran> Djones: I have tried, I only wanted to know if there is a chance that rooting the phone I could install something on it to make it work better
[14:56] <DJones> dsalfran: Wouldn't like to say, you might be better asking in ##android (I think thats the general android channel)
[14:56] <dsalfran> ActionParsnip: Yes, I use the safe removal feature
[14:56] <noiro> >.< Gah, KDE's blur effect has this fresh install crawling at its knees. Takes 5 minutes to do a search in the start menu
[14:56] <noiro> And that's just so I can go turn OFF the blur effect
[14:56] <dsalfran> Djones: Ah, thanks. I didn't knew that
[14:56] <e-dard> Hi, is it possible to run two separate instances of byobu for the same user, differentiating by the public used to connect via SSH?
[14:56] <e-dard> we have a typical cloud instance with ubuntu and byobu, and devs are stepping on toes
[14:57] <e-dard> we only have the standard ubuntu user
[14:57] <reisio> e-dard: why the same user?
[14:57] <e-dard> (basically stock EC2 instance)
[14:57] <e-dard> reisio: for deployment and so on it's simpler to have a single user on our servers
[14:57] <reisio> e-dard: why not mount the data remotely and have them use their own systems?
[14:57] <e-dard> It's also the default configuration for EC2 Ubuntu instances
[14:58] <e-dard> reisio: not sure mounting hundreds of GB of system data to go through it locally is such a good idea.
[14:58] <reisio> they're going to edit hundreds of GB?
[14:58] <dajepp> I need networking help - Ubuntu 13.04 on a dell laptop.  Cant connect with wi-fi or ethernet
[14:59] <reisio> how about having them work as one user and deploy as the magic one?
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: that's not really the point ;)
[14:59] <gbit86> Has anyone here configured an LPD/LPR printer on a Wyse Thinclient to work with a xRDP server?
[14:59] <reisio> e-dard: then why say it...
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: sure, could do that
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> Hi
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> I have ubuntu 12.04 with nvidia graphic card
[14:59] <reisio> e-dard: so they VNC in?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> gbit86  please rephrase, that phrase is hard to read
[14:59] <e-dard> reisio: ssh
[14:59] <Blackwizard_> Is it supported in ubuntu?
[15:00] <ahawkins> ActionParsnip: I could install it after doing: apt-cache search build-essential
[15:00] <reisio> I thought byobu was X only
[15:00] <gbit86> I just want to know if it is possible for me to connect a printer via LPD to a linux server running xRDP server, I can figure out there rest
[15:00] <e-dard> reisio: I thought the opposite
[15:00] <reisio> mmm, okay
[15:00] <gbit86> so a Wyse thin client would have a local usb printer attached, and I would have xrdp to recognize it, so I can print to it in theory
[15:00] <reisio> e-dard: well you could have separate 'screen' sessions easily
[15:00] <reisio> e-dard: presumably byobu requires screen, so you should have screen
[15:00] <e-dard> reisio: yeah it does
[15:01] <reisio> or tmux
[15:01] <Blackwizard_> any hint for use nvidia graphic card in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:01] <e-dard> reisio: OK, I'll look into those options.
[15:01] <e-dard> Thanks
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: perhaps their shells are just setup to
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: automatically reconnect to existing instances upon login
[15:01] <reisio> you'd want to merely disable that and the problem would be solved
[15:01] <gbit86> I am sure if I was using a raspberry pi I could find many ways have making a local printer available to my linux server, but my options are limited to LPD with usb redirection on the Wyse.
[15:01] <reisio> e-dard: poke around in ~/.bash* stuff and the like
[15:02] <e-dard> reisio: bybobu is associated with the user on the server instance. when you ssh in, byobu automatically reconnects to your session
[15:02] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:02] <reisio> e-dard: right
[15:02] <reisio> e-dard: but that's almost certainly just configured through the shell's prefs
[15:02] <e-dard> so if two people ssh in at the same time they see the same thing, and can both control the shell
[15:02] <gbit86> MonkeyDust: was my explanation any better?
[15:02] <e-dard> reisio: yes it's a setting
[15:02] <reisio> right, that should be in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile somewhere
[15:02] <reisio> it seems like you simply don't want that to happen
[15:02] <dajepp> .
[15:03] <e-dard> reisio: but if you turn it off, and then ssh in, and then type *byobu* would you not both get reconnected to the same session again?
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: that I don't know, not being familiar with the application, but
[15:03] <e-dard> reisio: we do want byobu, because it's useful for keeping the session alive etc.
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: you could obviously alias it to use a param that avoids that
[15:03] <reisio> e-dard: or screen, or tmux
[15:03] <Blackwizard_> @reisio how can I disable it?
[15:03] <reisio> Blackwizard_: disable what?
[15:03] <e-dard> yeah I guess screen / tmux might be more flexible
[15:04] <reisio> e-dard: I'd be surprised if byobu didn't have similar optional overrides
[15:04] <Blackwizard_> my nvidia graphic card
[15:04] <reisio> but again, I don't know byobu
[15:04] <reisio> Blackwizard_: what for?
[15:04] <reisio> I had the same setup (with screen) on a server once, and it also became less helpful and more confusing :p
[15:04] <ihre> byobu is pretty nice, since it has a few nice options hardcoded in it, but I prefer screen anyway
[15:04] <gisyangli> i use the initdb.exe, and run pgadmin3.  set the host to localhost. but the pgadmin get a connecton refused error
[15:04] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I have a problem with my nvidia graphic card in ubuntu 12.04
[15:04] <reisio> Blackwizard_: what problem is that?
[15:05] <CountryfiedLinux> Does Ubuntu really contain spyware?
[15:05] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: after a fashion
[15:05] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I need a graphic driver for it
[15:05] <gisyangli> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:05] <gisyangli>  libwxgtk2.9-0-unofficial : Depends: libjbig0 but it is not installable
[15:05] <gisyangli>                             Depends: liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) but 5.1.1alpha+20110809-3 is to be installed
[15:05] <gisyangli> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. I got this error
[15:05] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: it contains software that help companies sell you things
[15:05] <reisio> helps*
[15:05] <ihre> lol, besides the popularity check during the install, I wouldnt say so, CountryfiedLinux
[15:06] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, really?
[15:06] <reisio> Blackwizard_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:06] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:06] <whoever> OerHeks: really where , gotta link,
[15:07] <Blackwizard_> @reisio I heard my problem is popular one?
[15:08] <sevenearths> my ram has been in constant use for the last two weeks. Is there any way of telling what process is constantly swapping stuff in and out of my ram?
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: not having a driver?
[15:08] <Blackwizard_> @reisio is there any popular solution for it?
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: I don't know if I'd say that
[15:08] <reisio> Blackwizard_: yes I gave it to you
[15:08] <Blackwizard_> @reisio ok...let me check it...thanks
[15:10] <kirkland> e-dard: yes, you can easily create a new "session" in byobu with ctrl-shift-F2
[15:10] <whoever> OerHeks: check this hick out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apiH_iUhye4
[15:10] <e-dard> kirkland: ah cool. That's the ticket!
[15:10] <kirkland> e-dard: F2 creates new windows, ctrl-F2 creates vertical splits, shift-F2 creates horizontal splits, and ctrl-shift-F2 creates new sessions :-)
[15:11] <kirkland> e-dard: when you login, and there are multiple sessions, you'll get prompted to select which one you want
[15:12] <kirkland> e-dard: and you can also use alt-Up/alt-Down to move between sessions
[15:12] <e-dard> kirkland: great!
[15:13] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: try pastebinning all the errors, and I might be able to help
[15:13] <gbit86> Any here using Wyse and xrdp?
[15:14] <reisio> gbit86: what if someone here were?
[15:16] <gbit86> reisio: Then I'd kindly asked if they have tried printing to a locally attached usb printer on the wyse via the xRDP server?
[15:16] <gbit86> :)
[15:16] <reisio> gbit86: what if someone here were that had tried that?
[15:17] <gisyangli> ChogyDan: i paset it here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006763/
[15:17] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: it seems to have worked, opengl is working now,
[15:17] <thejollygrimreap> the onyl problem now is the resolution, it's stuck on 1024.768
[15:17] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: cool
[15:18] <gbit86> reisio: Then I'd know I can implement it too
[15:18] <ChogyDan> thejollygrimreap: if you havent, try the nvidia-settings tool
[15:18] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: are all these packages in the repos?
[15:18] <thejollygrimreap> ChogyDan: i tried that it didn't install it
[15:19] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: What does xrandr say about available screen sizes?
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> usr13:the error it throw up is about the gamma
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> user13: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[15:20] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: You have nvidia driver in use?
[15:20] <thejollygrimreap> user13:opengl works now so i assume so ,
[15:20] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: If so, there will be a gui config for it.
[15:21] <darkangel_> Hey is Getting Pre-Released Updates good or bad?
[15:21] <thejollygrimreap> user13: the nvidia-settings package isn't installed
[15:21] <ChogyDan> darkangel_: if you are asking, bad
[15:21] <darkangel_> ok =) thx
[15:21] <thejollygrimreap> user13: it shouldn't do anything .. bad if i install it should it ?
[15:21] <maxi298> I need your help
[15:22] <usr13> thejollygrimreap:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:22] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:23] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: http://pastebin.com/853A9SUZ
[15:24] <maxi298> I have an Alienware X51 and I want install Ubuntu 13.04 64-biton it dual boot with Windows 7. When the Installation Type shows up there is only "Erase Hard Disk and install Ubuntu" anyone have an idea? :(
[15:25] <tyteen4a03> hi, trying to gnome 3.8 but got this message: https://gist.github.com/tyteen4a03/76ec7914262e9fcf636d Can anyone tell me what to do next?
[15:25] <usr13> thejollygrimreap:  Setting up VESA Mode 0x118 (1024x768)
[15:25] <gisyangli> ChogyDan : I add a unoffical repo     sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://repos.codelite.org/wx2.9/ubuntu/ raring universe'
[15:26] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: and you are running 13.04?
[15:26] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: "Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)"  "LoadModule: "vesa"
[15:27] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: so it's not loading the nvidia driver ...
[15:27] <gisyangli> I running with ubuntu 12.04
[15:27] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: No it's not.  What does lspci say about your video card?
[15:27] <daftykins> but the nvidia module != "nv"
[15:27] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: you followed the isntructions for 13.04, that's the problem's source
[15:28] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[15:28] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
[15:28] <gisyangli> thanks , I notice it. i should change the raring to precise
[15:28] <gisyangli> thanks
[15:28] <thejollygrimreap> usr13:CrunchBang Linux waldorf \n \l
[15:29] <ChogyDan> gisyangli: ya
[15:29] <Siebjee> Does some one know the new IRC channel of Canonical, or has a phone numer of the sales department ?
[15:29] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: 32bit?
[15:29] <thejollygrimreap> yes 32bit
[15:30] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.html
[15:30] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: do you want to buy a support contract?
[15:30] <FabioTorino> Hello everyone!
[15:30] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: /join #crunchbang
[15:30] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, Yes, and ask a couple of questions
[15:30] <FabioTorino> I've problem with github.
[15:31] <thejollygrimreap> usr13: already tried that one gave me a compiler issue
[15:31] <FabioTorino> my problem is : error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing http://github.com/shinesoftware/shineisp/info/refs
[15:31] <FabioTorino> fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:31] <FabioTorino> Anyone know how fix this?
[15:31] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, you are welcome to try the community support here.  Here is a weblink for Canonical: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/contact-us
[15:31] <ChogyDan> dunno about the irc chan
[15:32] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, its more about server support. Also asked in #ubuntu-server
[15:32] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: Well, I don't know about the compiler issue, but NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.15-pkg1.run is what is needed for for your display adapter.
[15:32] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, I think if you will out the webpage contact form, you will get in touch with someone who knows all that, who is paid to know all that  :)
[15:32] <usr13> thejollygrimreap: Ask on #crunchbang
[15:32] <Siebjee> Also their main person on the switchboard is not redirecting the call correctly
[15:33] <ChogyDan> oh
[15:33] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, I need to speak to one more or less like yesterday
[15:33] <Siebjee> and been trying all day to contact them. Also i have filled in the form 2 days ago
[15:34] <MasterAsia> I can't get the USB install instructions to work, it keeps corrupting my USB
[15:34] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: well, try crashing #ubuntu-devel   ?   They may be annoyed, but they might at least be able to direct you
[15:35] <Siebjee> ChogyDan, Cheers :)
[15:35] <ChogyDan> Siebjee: gl!
[15:35] <Siebjee> Thanks :)
[15:46] <edve>  DCOM	10009 error keeps happening on Windows server that has Ubuntu server into his domain, anybody knows why ?
[15:46] <daftykins> edve: that kinda seems more like Windows support to me
[15:47] <diphtherial> hey, is it normal that apt-get should not be available from the recovery mode root command prompt?
[15:47] <diphtherial> er, and if it is, is there a way to boot the machine to the console, but still be able to install packages?
[15:48] <diphtherial> (i've noticed that 'network' freezes when i attempt to choose that option, too, which is apparently a known issue)
[15:48] <daftykins> diphtherial: why not liveCD and chroot
[15:49] <eltigre> hey, I just installed ubuntu on an SSD in my older desktop pc, which previously ran flawlessly under Ubuntu on a normal hard drive... now after the reinstall, the system crashes every few hours
[15:49] <edve> daftykins i was wondering if it was normal :/
[15:49] <eltigre> any idea what I might do for debugging this?
[15:49] <daftykins> eltigre: which SSD?
[15:49] <diphtherial> daftykins: that's not a bad idea; does chroot literally change to where the / refers?
[15:49] <eltigre> could it be the nouveau driver for nvidia? Before that I had the proprietary nvidia driver installed
[15:49] <daftykins> !chroot | diphtherial
[15:49] <eltigre> daftykins, Samsung
[15:50] <daftykins> diphtherial: yep
[15:50] <daftykins> eltigre: latest firmware?
[15:50] <eltigre> daftykins, how would I know?
[15:50] <eltigre> daftykins, I didn't update it though
[15:50] <FabioTorino> error: The requested URL returned error: 403 while accessing http://github.com/shinesoftware/shineisp/info/refs
[15:50] <FabioTorino> fatal: HTTP request failed
[15:50] <FabioTorino> Anyone kno how fix that problem?
[15:51] <daftykins> eltigre: you'd check out samsungs site for an updater :D it's easiest done from Windows sadly :(
[15:51] <diphtherial> daftykins: er, i'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to doing things in linux that aren't just using it...say that i boot from a liveCD, but want to install packages into an installation on a drive
[15:51] <eltigre> daftykins, yeah, but are they really shipping drives that crash the pc in normal use?
[15:51] <diphtherial> daftykins: how do i go about mounting the drive, then chrooting into it to install packages?
[15:52] <Pici> FabioTorino: The page doesn't exist.  I'm not sure what you expect us to do about it.  It seems tangentally related to Ubuntu as well.
[15:52] <winbtc_moarrr> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1kpsi5/i_put_all_my_life_savings_into_bitcoins/
[15:53] <Pici> winbtc_moarrr: Please don't post off-topic links here.
[15:53] <winbtc_moarrr> oh sorry
[15:53] <outch3> diphtherial : why not downloading the .deb file from a mirror and put it on the hard drive? reboot in the os and install
[15:53] <daftykins> eltigre: it's just an idea.
[15:53] <eltigre> daftykins, thanks anyway
[15:54] <daftykins> diphtherial: the link the bot gave you shows how
[15:54] <FabioTorino> Ok
[15:58] <diphtherial> daftykins: is it possible to install packages while you're running from a liveCD?
[15:58] <daftykins> diphtherial: yes using the chroot method, we seem to be going in circles!?
[15:59] <diphtherial> daftykins: the first step of the directions you sent me advises me to install dchroot and deboostrap
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> diphtherial: yes, your storage is limited by RAM though so you may run out of space etc
[15:59] <diphtherial> are these going to be installed on the liveCD, since we haven't chrooted yet?
[15:59] <diphtherial> ah, alright, that makes some sense
[15:59] <CountryfiedLinux> where in here is my GPU? http://pastebin.com/arJH6rGi
[16:00] <diphtherial> frankly, i don't even know exactly what this guy's problem is...we're just kind of going over the same old things because he's too intelligent to take my advice verbatim
[16:00] <diphtherial> which means he says things like "tried that, didn't work"
[16:00] <rosco_y> Would anyone recommend that I put /usr/sbin in my path?  Conversely, would anyone recommend that I NOT put it in my path?
[16:00] <daftykins> diphtherial: you'd be able to install software in the livecd environment because you'd have an internet connection, so you'd pull down the tools to be able to mount the hard disk install *then* install stuff on that :)
[16:01] <rosco_y> daftykins: what are you trying to do?
[16:02] <diphtherial> rosco_y: i assume that was meant for me? i'm trying to help a colleague troubleshoot his broken ubuntu installation
[16:02] <rosco_y> diphtherial: ok, I was doing something like that awhile ago, so I peeped up
[16:02] <diphtherial> apparently he lacks the appropriate graphics card drivers to properly boot from the installation once it's installed; he gets "The system is running in low-graphics mode", and then the machine just freezes up
[16:02] <diphtherial> ah, thanks :)
[16:02] <daftykins> rosco_y: you see how i worded my statement? i'm not the one asking...
[16:02] <rosco_y> oh, different problem then
[16:03] <diphtherial> i apologize if i'm being frustrating, and i do appreciate the help
[16:03] <diphtherial> it's just that we've been in the midst of trying to solve the problem ourselves and so we're at this inconsistent state between being totally helpless and having some idea of what to do
[16:04] <rosco_y> I was dealing with a "all-in-one" piece of junk, and the hard drive was inaccessible--I let the kids use run it off the live CD
[16:04] <rosco_y> that works pretty well for them--they like to go on PBS KIds and watch cartoons and play games
[16:04] <diphtherial> ah, yeah, fortunately the hdd is accessible here :)
[16:04] <diphtherial> ideal liveCD setup, heh
[16:05] <diphtherial> no persistent state required
[16:05] <rosco_y> right, and they can't wreck anything (well, it's a theory)
[16:10] <nicole_> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 32 bit on my Toshiba laptop. I cannot get my wireless to work. The card I have is a Realtek RTL8188CE. Can someone help me?
[16:11] <holstein> !wireless | nicole_
[16:12] <nicole_> holstein: tried that
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     does it use the rtl8192ce driver?
[16:12] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: I will check
[16:13] <diphtherial> ActionParsnip: oh, for what it's worth, we got the grub issue sorted out that i mentioned before; he was apparently using "the wrong grub install tool", whatever that means
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: also run:  sudo iwlist scan | egrep 'ssid|chan'    do you have many networks on the same channel? DO you see networks?
[16:13] <diphtherial> he can boot from the partition now, but it gives him a message that it's running in low-graphics mode, then freezes
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you see the OS missing firmware files?
[16:16] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6006950/ and no to the last one
[16:16] <moondog> diphtherial: I had that happen... when I screwed up permissions on /var
[16:16] <magdur> guys are we using laptop on charjing  long time like a windows ?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: try:   sudo modprobe rtl8192ce
[16:17] <holstein> magdur: please rephrase so that a volunteer can understand what you are asking
[16:17] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: It just comes back up to the prompt
[16:17] <diphtherial> moondog: hmm, this is fresh installation; i don't know if he's had time screw up /var, heh
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: do you have wireless with the realtek card now?
[16:18] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: No, I'm borrowing an external WiFi adapter from a friend
[16:18] <holstein> nicole_: try the unit in question, after running the modprobe command
 can i use long time on charging my laptop? for instance on windows i can use 4 hour but now at ubuntu 2 hour
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: ok, unplug that then try your wifi, is it ok?
[16:18] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: OK
[16:19] <holstein> magdur: what are you asking? can ubuntu take longer to charge your laptop?
 yes
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: or, run:  echo rtl8192ce | sudo tee -a /etc/modules    and reboot without the USB wifi
[16:19] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: No, it does not show anything
[16:20] <holstein> magdur: i dont think so, and i dont know why you would want that
[16:20] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: OK, BRB
[16:20] <ChogyDan> what program do I use to edit a pdf file?
[16:21] <holstein> ChogyDan: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[16:21] <ChogyDan> holstein: thanks!
[16:21] <sideone> hey all, i have squid rolling over its logs, which i imagine is from the native unix syslog rotator, does anyone have a faq on this process? i would like to prefix the date and directory for rolling over the log files for squid. If not, should i use a project like logrotate? thanks
[16:21] <holstein> !info flpsed
 i want to use longer time with charging
[16:22] <holstein> magdur: you want it to take longer to charge the battery?
 yes i want
[16:22] <holstein> magdur: i would look for a setting in the bios, or ask the manufacturer of the machine for driver support for whatever feature you are wanting
[16:23] <holstein> magdur: i dont understand why you would want that
[16:23] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: Didn't work. I had to plug the USB adapter back in
 for more mobility
[16:24] <shashank> I totally messed up the network settings on my ubuntu, currently I am not able to use either wired connection nor mobile broadband. Is there any way, using a ubuntu bootable usb or otherwise using which I can restore the network settings. If I copy the /etc/network from someone's computer and replace mine with them, would it work?
[16:24] <holstein> magdur: i dont think so, friend.. if it takes twice as long to charge your laptop.. that is not "more mobility"
[16:24] <Guest13929> i need help installing my hp printer
[16:24] <holstein> magdur: are you asking for a longer battery life in ubuntu?
[16:24] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: The funny thing is, it worked when I ran it from LiveCD
[16:25] <Guest13929> i need help installing my hp printer
[16:25] <holstein> nicole_: then, try booting an older kernel. hopefully, the kernel that you were using on the live CD.. usually, during install, i wont take the updates at that time so i get the *exacty* same thing from the live on the insatlled system
[16:25] <holstein> Guest13929: please dont repeat
[16:25] <holstein> !printing
[16:25] <holstein> Guest13929: ^
[16:26] <nicole_> holstein: OK, I'm not sure how to roll back the kernel
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest13929  you've come the right place, this is the support channel
[16:27] <holstein> nicole_: choose it at boot.. dont "roll back" anything.. choose the older kernel from grub at boot and test.. nothing permanent
[16:28] <nicole_> holstein: Will do. I will let you know what happens
[16:29] <shashank>  I totally messed up the network settings on my ubuntu, currently I am not able to use either wired connection nor mobile broadband. Is there any way, using a ubuntu bootable usb or otherwise using which I can restore the network settings. If I copy the /etc/network from someone's computer and replace mine with them, would it work?
[16:30] <holstein> !patience | shashank
[16:30] <holstein> shashank: how did you "totally mess" what up?
[16:31] <nicole_> holstein: That worked
[16:32] <holstein> nicole_: so,, you can use/boot the older kernel, and keep checking in and see if a newer kernel update/upgrade "fixes" support for your device
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: grab this and install it, should be ok ubuntuone.com/5lXovIEjNfiZLmN59Rx9Wp you may want to remove the line you added to /etc/modules    source of link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/902557
[16:33] <shashank> holstein: earlier my mobile broadband (huawei tata photon+ was not working, Ubuntu was not able to detect it. I looked up on internet and made a few changes. I made multiple changes so I don't exactly remember what I did.
[16:34] <Guest13929> alright, so i get to the point of running HPLIP and it wont open the file.
[16:34] <holstein> shashank: then, i would just fresh reinstall, and come here *before* copy/pasting *any* commands that you dont understand, or want to make note of
[16:34] <Guest13929> ive installed it before but my pc crashed and now i cant remember how i did it
[16:34] <Guest13929> thats what i just did, and it wont open it
[16:34] <holstein> Guest13929: did you open the GUI and try adding the printer with the wizard? is it a network printer? connected VIA usb?
[16:35] <Guest13929> its connected VIA usb on a home pc
[16:35] <holstein> Guest13929: plug it in, turn it on. and open "add a printer"
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !details | Guest13929
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: if you want do download and use a tool from HP, HP will support that
[16:36] <Guest13929> i have ubuntu 12.04 and when i download HPLIP and try to run it, it wont open
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: try the GUI in the menu.. friend
[16:36] <holstein> Guest13929: when i plug in my HP printer and click "add printer", i can print to it
[16:37] <oana_> Hello
[16:38] <oana_> can anyone help me with a gcc problem?
[16:38] <holstein> !details > oana_
[16:39] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: what was the line I added?
[16:39] <Guest13929> so when i install it with the wizard, i go to print a test page and nothing happens
[16:39] <Guest13929> ive done this like 20 times
[16:39] <ChogyDan> Any help with a microphone on a usb webcam would be appreciated
[16:39] <oana_> okay, I tried to install the cuda toolkit 5, but for that I needed gcc v4.4
[16:39] <holstein> Guest13929: sometimes, i try different drivers, and i find one that works.. try using a different type or a close model in the GUI
[16:39] <oana_> so I tried to uninstall my current version 4.7 and install v 4.4
[16:40] <oana_> the problem is that I think I couldn't fully uninstall the previous version so when I tried to reinstall gcc everything went wrong
[16:40] <holstein> oana_: gcc 4.4? and in the repos its 4.7?
[16:40] <Guest13929> ok ill try and older HPLIP
[16:40] <holstein> Guest13929: try other driver veresions in the gui.. that is my suggestion.. not "older hplip"
[16:41] <oana_> holstein, yes gcc-4.4 and gcc-4.7.
[16:42] <noiro> Can someone walk me through finding the correct wireless driver I need for this laptop? I am fairly certain it's broadcom, but the b43-fwcutter driver doens't qualify
[16:42] <oana_> here's the error I get when I tried to reinstall it error: alternative path /usr/bin/gcc doesn't exist
[16:42] <holstein> oana_: if you go "out of repo" like that, you are expected to maintain everything on your own.. i would ask the maintainers how you are meant to use the product they are making
[16:42] <holstein> oana_: sometime, its easy to step back to an older version in the repos.. also, sometimes, when changing a core piece of software, you break *many* things
[16:43] <lucidium> I'm trying to install the unreal tournament goty run file, but I get an error saying that libgtk-1.2.so.0 is missing. How can I install these libraries?
[16:43] <oana_> holstein, I know, it was my fault, now I am trying to find a solution to the problem
[16:43] <holstein> lucidium: i would ask the maintainers.. maybe it is "out of date" and not compatible with the operating system you are using
[16:44] <oana_> the error I get seems to be part of the build-essential package so I tried this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007037/
[16:47] <noiro> Can someone help me with wireless drivers por favor? A poor soul unknowing of how to proceed
[16:47] <usr13> oana_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc-multilib
[16:47] <ChogyDan> !details | noiro
[16:47] <usr13> noiro: iwconfig  #What does that say?
[16:48] <noiro> usr13: wlan0: IEEE 802.11bg
[16:48] <noiro> ESSID: off/any
[16:49] <bean> noiro: please pastebin it :)
[16:49] <usr13> noiro: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:49] <mojtaba> My computer is dual boot with windows, but I have about 100G free space in my windows drive, does anybody know how can I shrink that volume and add that space to my home?
[16:49] <usr13> mojtaba: MS Windows 7?
[16:49] <pumafied> Use gparted from a live usb
[16:49] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: I would boot with a livecd, and use gparted.  That's what I would do
[16:49] <mojtaba> usr13: yes
[16:49] <noiro> usr13: interface doesn't support scanning. Network is down
[16:49] <pumafied> ChogyDan: lol
[16:50] <ChogyDan> :)
[16:50] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Why should I use live cd?
[16:50] <pumafied> Because you cant resize partitions being used
[16:50] <usr13> noiro: What about the network manager?  Does it show any available wireless networks?
[16:51] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: so sometimes you can get away with it, but... many times not.
[16:51] <manik> Hello. can anybody tell me how to edit right click menu so that I could add option for a new text document?
[16:51] <noiro> usr13: No. I had to remove the wireless card during installation as it'd keep crashing it before it had time to look at partitions/HDDs. I plugged it back in afterwards
[16:51] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: What if I do not mount the windows drive, do I still need to use live CD?
[16:51] <noiro> It says WLAN interface unavailable
[16:51] <ChogyDan> noiro: can you post the model and type of this card?
[16:52] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: no, you wouldn't.  Do you have another install I take it then?  beyond the windows install
[16:52] <pumafied> Yes because the linux part would be used
[16:52] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I have ubuntu, windows
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: The live is to make sure nothing on your harddrive is being touched by anything but the partition manager
[16:53] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: o yeah, you would still have to not being using ubuntu, since you want to add it to /home
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: So you would have to
[16:53] <noiro> ChogyDan: Broadcom CBM4311
[16:53] <justinfront> Hi when installing via virtualbox how do I setup my user password so I can sudo?
[16:53] <pumafied> mojtaba: It kind of sucks that you have to so I always have a flashdrive on me ready to be live booted
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: I see, and could you please let me know what should I do exactly with gparted? Does it have a GUI? or from where can I find it?
[16:54] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: it has a gui
[16:54] <mojtaba> pumafied: I prefer to use flash drive too.
[16:54] <usr13> noiro: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[16:54] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: Could you please let me know from where can I get it?
[16:55] <pumafied> mojtaba: It has a gui and if you look up a partitioning tutorial it should have it
[16:55] <cloneG> is there an enhanced sound manager for ubuntu I find kind of poor what you can do with the default one
[16:55] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: sudo apt-get install gparted     ?
[16:55] <pumafied> mojtaba: It will be in the default repository so you can just run sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:55] <mojtaba> ChogyDan: And also still I want to keep my windows. Does the gparted keep my windows safe?
[16:56] <mojtaba> pumafied: How should I have it on my usb stick, to boot up with it?
[16:56] <pumafied> mojtaba: boot it in live mode then just use sudo apt-get install
[16:56] <ChogyDan> mojtaba: oh, you can just use a regular ubuntu live install
[16:56] <mojtaba> pumafied: Thanks
[16:57] <mojtaba> pumafied: ChogyDan: Will my windows be still operative? as I have some expensive software on it.
[16:57] <usr13> mojtaba: Although, I've yet to loose data using gparted, it is always a risk when you resize a partition.  Back up any important data you may have.
[16:58] <mojtaba> usr13: Thanks. And the last question, how can I make a usb stick ubuntu bootable?
[16:58] <pumafied> mojtaba: I agree with usr13
[16:58] <noiro> usr13: No such file or directory
[16:59] <noiro> Oh usr13: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \r
[16:59] <noiro> *\n \l
[16:59] <usr13> noiro: So you say you removed what?
[16:59] <Melksu> Hi! a new driver for my graphics card was made available today, but it won't install. Jockey is spitting out tons of errors, has anyone else installed fglrx-experimental-13?
[17:00] <usr13> noiro: You said that you removed the wireless card?  So, did you put it back in?
[17:01] <mojtaba> pumafied: And the last question, how can I make a usb stick ubuntu bootable?
[17:01] <noiro> usr13: I removed the wireless card during installation as it was crashing installation. And yes, it is back in
[17:01] <noiro> I also tried: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source just now and rebooted and mentions of wireless disappeared. modprobe wl freezes the Terminal
[17:02] <noiro> I think the wl driver driver is the correct one, but I forget what I did to fix and make modprobe work
[17:02] <usr13> noiro: Fully updated?  If not, do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:02] <thepeopleschamp> hi
[17:03] <thepeopleschamp> can someone link me to a nice .icc file that i can use the best color quality possible on my hp?
[17:04] <usr13> noiro: Did you install firmware?
[17:05] <bomber> Hello there folks
[17:05] <bomber> My system keeps changing the time ahead 4 hours when i reboot.. It started after I did an upgrade and the local and time zone seems to be fine. I even changed the time in the bios to the correct time and it still goes ahead 4 hours. Any suggestions?
[17:05] <noiro> usr13: isn't bcmwl-kernel-source the firmware?
[17:06] <noiro> If I remember in the past, it is because Ubuntu tries the wrong firmware originally and modprobe can't assign since the wrong driver is active and trying on the hardware
[17:06] <usr13> noiro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[17:07] <m_> nobidy?
[17:08] <DJones> !anybody | m_
[17:08] <m_> does anybody tell me how to edit right click menu so that I could add option for a new text document?
[17:09] <usr13> m_: In _________________ ?
[17:09] <cloneG> I ve using recordmydesktop for a while and I thought something went wrong when installing because I never managed to record sound... till last month
[17:09] <cloneG> the point is that the recorded sound was the sound that mic was capturing
[17:10] <bomber> if you hover over the desktop highlighted area you'll get your diffeernet menu when you right click
[17:10] <m_> Lubuntu
[17:10] <usr13> cloneG: Yep  :)
[17:10] <bomber> m
[17:10] <m_> File manager usr12
[17:10] <m_> usr13 File manager
[17:10] <Pici> !tab
[17:10] <cloneG> is there a way to tell recordmydesktop to use direct sound from player?
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: Not that I know of.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: (There is probably a better way.)
[17:11] <usr13> cloneG: Sound from what player?
[17:12] <cloneG> as well as recordmydesktop captures images, programs playing on desktop capture sound
[17:12] <cloneG> the sound of those applications
[17:12] <cloneG> videos or whatever without the need of a mic
[17:12] <usr13> cloneG: You want to record a video?
[17:13] <cloneG> for instance
[17:13] <cloneG> imagine I want to record some videos playing on desktop
[17:13] <cloneG> and I want the music on them aswell
[17:13] <usr13> cloneG: Why not just put the videos together in another way?
[17:14] <cloneG> yep I ve been doing that with openshot
[17:14] <usr13> cloneG: And add to it your recordmydesktop video as well.
[17:14] <cloneG> but that is double work
[17:14] <usr13> cloneG: What is openshot?
[17:14] <cloneG> a video editing program
[17:15] <cloneG> there must be a way as long as recordmydesktop records sound from mic...
[17:15] <cloneG> there must be a way to record the sound a player is playing at that very moment youre recording
[17:16] <cloneG> without the need to mount both afterwards
[17:16] <cloneG> any ubuntu tweak?
[17:16] <cloneG> in the ubuntu sound manager
[17:17] <cloneG> input sound can be switched between mic...
[17:17] <cloneG> and online
[17:17] <cloneG> is that it?
[17:17] <usr13> cloneG: ffmpeg -i video1.avi -sameq video1.mpg && ffmepg -i video2.mp4 -sameq video2.mpg && cat video1.mpg video2.mpg > new-video.mpg
[17:17] <cloneG> ¿
[17:17] <cloneG> ?
[17:18] <cloneG> usr13 what was that?
[17:18] <cloneG> usr13 what that does?
[17:18] <Phoenix1969> OK, have the black screen with cursor at top left after boot, and turned out to be no graphics driver...So now I have the driver..  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run  dropped into the maun ubuntu folder...what do I do now to run it?
[17:18] <usr13> !info ffmpeg | cloneG
[17:19] <adamk> cloneG: If you want to record the audio that is playing on your computer, use pavucontrol to record the monitor of your sound device: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171287/how-to-pass-record-audio-output-as-an-input-device
[17:20] <cloneG> cool adamk!
[17:20] <cloneG> adamk that was the answer I was searching for
[17:21] <usr13> cloneG: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_3.php
[17:23] <usr13> cloneG: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/p1_3c.php
[17:24] <Phoenix1969> HELP OK, have the black screen with cursor at top left after boot, and turned out to be no graphics driver...So now I have the driver..  amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-x86.x86_64.run  dropped into the maun ubuntu folder...what do I do now to run it?
[17:25] <usr13> cloneG: But it seems to be to be strange to record a video via recordmydesktop.  Not sure why you'd want to do that.
[17:25] <adamk> Phoenix1969: You really shouldn't be installing the driver that way.  It's packaged in the repos very nicely for Ubuntu.
[17:25] <adamk> Phoenix1969: What video card do you have?
[17:25] <cloneG> usr13 hmmmm....I must be running an older version of the program
[17:25] <Phoenix1969> How can I access the repos with a blank screen?
[17:25] <bekks> Phoenix1969: press ctrl+alt+f1
[17:25] <Phoenix1969> the gigabyte 7970
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: If you have the video(s) already on your hard drive, you can do what you want with them anyway, but to stream and record via a screen capture application seems a bit out of the ordinary.
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: cat /etc/issue   #What does that say?
[17:26] <Phoenix1969> ctrl alt f1 will access the gui store?
[17:26] <adamk> Phoenix1969: If you pass the 'nomodeset' option to the kernel via grub, Xorg should start up with the vesa driver, allowing you to see your desktop.
[17:26] <bekks> Phoenix1969: You mean: ATI Radeon HD 7970. :)
[17:26] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:26] <Phoenix1969> i tried nomodeset, didnt work
[17:26] <bekks> s/ATI/AMD/
[17:27] <cloneG> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:27] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:27] <Phoenix1969> yes bekks
[17:28] <adamk> Phoenix1969: If Xorg still didn't start when using nomodeset, then I'm not convinced this is a video driver issue.
[17:28] <usr13> cloneG: You said "I must be running an older version of the program".  Define "the program".
[17:28] <Phoenix1969> huh
[17:28] <cloneG> usr13: I dont have jack option available
[17:29] <cloneG> usr13 it is faded
[17:29] <usr13> cloneG: Then jack is not installed.
[17:29] <dfarmer> Hi all, I saw in updates this morning (for 12.04 x86/64) the jockey stuff related to hybrid graphics. I looked around and found the stuff on using raring kernel/xorg etc, but was curious if anyone knows if the hybrid enabled stuff supports power management or just acceleration?
[17:29] <Phoenix1969> ill try, brb
[17:30] <adamk> cloneG: jackd is not necessary for the solution I gave you, just so you know.
[17:30] <usr13> cloneG: sudo apt-get install jack
[17:30] <cloneG> usr13: so I need to install jack and then recordmydesktop would record directly from the sound card?
[17:30] <usr13> adamk: He said jack?
[17:30] <cloneG> usr13: okay
[17:31] <adamk> usr13: ?  Not sure I understand what you're asking... You are suggesting a solution that requires jack, and I gave him a solution earlier that does not require it. That's all.
[17:31] <usr13> cloneG: But again, I believe you are going the long way around the block if you are recording existing videos via recordmydesktop
[17:32] <cloneG> adamk: not necessary but it seems I would need another program called...opensoundrecorder
[17:32] <bekks> cloneG: Why dont you rip the audio stream out of the video?
[17:32] <bekks> cloneG: you dont need any recorder to do so.
[17:33] <usr13> adamk: Well, I asked if he said jack.  Apparently he did.  He should probably try your solution, maybe he will, I don't know, but his original question was how to get recordmydesktop to capture audio from a video stream.
[17:33] <cloneG> usr13: not recording videos but several applications at same time...both graphical and sound players
[17:33] <usr13> adamk: (Although that is not the way he said it, it is obviously what he ment.)
[17:34] <usr13> cloneG: Ok...
[17:34] <cloneG> usr13 so there is no need for later editing
[17:34] <usr13> cloneG: At any rate, looks like we have given you the information you need.
[17:34] <cloneG> usr13 lazy recording
[17:34] <MasterAsia> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ -> There is a 64-bit mac install image here
[17:34] <cloneG> yep
[17:35] <MasterAsia> Will this bypass the EFI thing?
[17:35] <cloneG> time to dig
[17:35] <bekks> MasterAsia: No. You cant bypass it.
[17:35] <MasterAsia> Trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac Mini 2.1
[17:35] <MasterAsia> bekks: How can I install Ubuntu on my Mac Mini then?
[17:35] <Actionparsnip> !mac
[17:35] <bekks> MasterAsia: By using the mac iso. You just cant bypass UEFI.
[17:35] <Pudge> the quality of desktop video record depends on what? application ? video card? driver?
[17:36] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Already checked those, it just 'works' for them. I have an older 2007 mac mini
[17:36] <MasterAsia> bekks: I'm getting a "select cd rom boot type" error
[17:36] <MasterAsia> Is that related to UEFI?
[17:36] <bekks> MasterAsia: I dont have a Mac, I dont know.
[17:37] <Maple__> MasterAsia, what else?
[17:37] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: don't you hold C to boot from CD
[17:37] <Maple__> as in, is it giving you any options...?
[17:37] <MasterAsia> Maple__: Just says 1, and 2. No options, keyboard no longer works
[17:37] <Maple__> uh, idk
[17:37] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: I -am- booting from the cd
[17:37] <MasterAsia> It craps out after I select cd from the boot menu
[17:38] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: ok did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:38] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Yep. Even tried it on my newer Imac
[17:38] <MasterAsia> it loaded up fine
[17:38] <cloneG> usr13: problems with jack-->http://www.pasteall.org/44993/bash
[17:40] <viniciuh> hey
[17:40] <viniciuh> i have problem apache2
[17:40] <daftykins> ask away
[17:40] <m_> which file manager do you guys prefer?
[17:41] <daftykins> on one line if possible
[17:41] <viniciuh> can someone help me?
[17:41] <bekks> m_: network manager.
[17:41] <cloneG> usr13 that jack is not the jack I am looking for
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: I guess you have seen this:
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[17:41] <Pudge> m_: try ranger
[17:41] <cloneG> usr13 you lazy bone!
[17:41] <Pudge> m_: the best one, u will love it, especially if u love CLI
[17:41] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Yes. That wiki is actually not helpful. It assumes that the LiveCD will boot.
[17:41] <Actionparsnip> Viniciuh: without details. ..no
[17:41] <m_> Works well in Lubuntu? Pudge
[17:42] <cloneG> which jack should I install for recordmydesktop to work?
[17:42] <Pudge> m_: ofcoz
[17:42] <m_> Let me give it a try then. Thanks. pudge
[17:42] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia: try burning the CD slow or is the CD you have burned as slowly as possible already?
[17:42] <Pudge> m_: its CLI, so it doesn't depend on any DE
[17:42] <viniciuh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6007253/
[17:42] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: The cd works on a newer i-mac
[17:42] <elixir> Hi
[17:43] <viniciuh> Actionparsnip: the error
[17:43] <elixir> Anyone here?
[17:43] <Pudge> m_: if u love vim, its vim style, perfect
[17:43] <m_> Got it. Pudge
[17:43] <elixir> Pudge, I don't like it
[17:43] <Actionparsnip> M_: pcmanfm for GUI but I use guake more for file management now
[17:43] <Pudge> elixir: ofcoz u can
[17:44] <m_> Actionparsnip Pcmanfm is nice but needs a few more settings, no?
[17:44] <elixir> Pudge, i want to try rm -rf /
[17:44] <Pudge> elixir: go ahead
[17:44] <Actionparsnip>  Masterasia : yes the drive will be newer and handle faster media.  Old stuff benefits from slow burning
[17:44] <m_> Actionparsnip how is guake?
[17:44] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i tried it on Server
[17:44] <elixir> only
[17:45] <Actionparsnip>  Elixir: spin up a vm and go for it
[17:45] <elixir> Actionparsnip, Any Sys Admin here?
[17:46] <Actionparsnip> M_: its a terminal that hides and shows on shortcut key. Otherwise it's no different to gnome terminal
[17:46] <Actionparsnip>  Elixir : what does 'sys admin' mean?
[17:46] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i mean System Adminstrator
[17:47] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : most people here will be responsible for their updates etc so are techically system administrators
[17:47] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : bit of a worthless question
[17:47] <elixir> Actionparsnip, ok
[17:47] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: Ok.
[17:47] <BluesKaj> elixir, ask your real question
[17:47] <MasterAsia> I don't think Ubuntu and Mac were supposed to meet.
[17:48] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : again, what do you mean 'system administrator'?
[17:48] <DrDamnit> I am trying to connect to a remote Ubuntu 12.04 LTS box with either VNC or XRDP. Problem is: the unity bar on the left is auto-hiding, so I can't do anything. How can I get to that bar?
[17:48] <fartface> If I have a ZFS pool, and my OS dies without a pool backup, will I lose the ability to import that pool on another system?
[17:48] <Actionparsnip> Masterasia : never had an issue running livecd to fix my moron friends who use mac and don't backup
[17:49] <MasterAsia> Actionparsnip: ahahah
[17:49] <Actionparsnip>  Masterasia : try a slower burned disk
[17:50] <elixir> How much IO SSD Provides?
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit: what do you intend to do on the remote desktop session?
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : ask in ##hardware
[17:50] <DrDamnit> client is using Thunderbird, and has decided he wants to switch to evolution. Just need to do some maintenance and setup some email accounts.
[17:50] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : you didn't answer my question earlier
[17:51] <elixir> ok
[17:51] <elixir> Actionparsnip, as google
[17:51] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : what do you mean?
[17:52] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : 'as Google' with no context is nothing.
[17:52] <elixir> ok
[17:52] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : want to answer my question now? I have been decent enough to answer you....
[17:53] <elixir> Actionparsnip, what's your question?
[17:53] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : what do you mean by 'system administrator ' also, why ask
[17:54] <elixir> SSD VS RAM, i should get more RAM for Performace of mysql server or SSD
[17:54] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: client is using Thunderbird, and has decided he wants to switch to evolution. Just need to do some maintenance and setup some email accounts.
[17:54] <elixir> Current disk IO , UnixBench score: 1403.3
[17:54] <elixir> I/O rate: 570.0 MB/second
[17:54] <elixir> Bandwidth rate: 46.5 MB/second
[17:54] <Actionparsnip> Elixir : doesn't answer my question does it
[17:54] <elixir> That's with SSD
[17:54] <a5m0> can anyone suggest a good/cheap gsm/3g/4g dongle that works with minimal linux fumbling?
[17:54] <elixir> Actionparsnip, i am not wise enough to answer that, appologies
[17:54] <bazhang> elixir, thats offtopic here
[17:55] <newp> hello folks, looking for support regarding installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Asus F75V notebook.
[17:55] <elixir> why offtopic, i am running ubuntu
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, ask in ##hardware
[17:55] <elixir> hmm, what hardware has to do with mysql?
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, thats a hardware issue, thats why
[17:55] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : can you press Alt+Ctrl+T and run a terminal?
[17:55] <DrDamnit> a5m0: why not get a hotspot? or use wifi tethering? (FoxFi, etc...)
[17:55] <elixir> i am looking for answer in general.
[17:55] <bazhang> elixir, this is the WRONG channel for it
[17:55] <a5m0> DrDamnit: i have a sim card that i would like to use, and would like to run it off the device/not have extra power sources etc
[17:55] <a5m0> and dongles are cheaper
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, so please stop asking
[17:56] <elixir> bazhang, is there any server channel?
[17:56] <tiky> hi, i have 13.04 and a normal nvidia 325.08 install, trying to figure out how to make the laptop properly suspend on lid close
[17:56] <elixir> bazhang, where i can ask these question?
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, #ubuntu-server
[17:56] <DrDamnit> I can ssh in and get terminal. CTRL+ALT+T, does nothing. That's from a WIndows box. Let me try it from this Linux box...
[17:56] <Pici> elixir: ##hardware or #mysql may be more appropriate
[17:56] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : you can run the application from there :-)
[17:56] <bazhang> elixir, those are hardware questions, so no
[17:56] <elixir> ok
[17:56] <newp> hello folks, looking for support regarding installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a new Asus F75V notebook.
[17:56] <tiky> the wiki suggests apm but i'm not sure which package provides it, if it's the right tool to use, etc.
[17:57] <Pudge> tiky: not apm, its out of date
[17:57] <newp> don't mean to be a pain, is the a queue I must add myself to?
[17:57] <Pudge> tiky: acpi, or pm-util, laptop-tools
[17:57] <tiky> which would you recommend ?
[17:57] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : or ssh with x forwarding enabled and run the application to then configure it from your pc
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: pm-util and laptop-tools are both good enough
[17:58] <Actionparsnip> Newp: use usb to test
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: and i think that they are installed by default
[17:58] <Pudge> tiky: what u need is just config them
[17:58] <newp> what do you mean use USB to test?
[17:59] <newp> oh.. I've installed Ubuntu on several laptops before.
[17:59] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: Never used X forwarding before. ran ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>How do I attach to the X11 session that's being forwarded?
[17:59] <Actionparsnip> Newp: install ubuntu on a usb stick and test. If it's ok do a real install or even perpetuate the usb
[18:00] <shine_> What is the name of the thing that adds a right click option to exctract compressed files?
[18:00] <newp> when it boots off the USB & gives me the option to "try Ubuntu first w/o installing it", "install Ubuntu" & to "check disc for errors" no matter what choice I choose it goes to a blank screen & hangs
[18:00] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit if the client has an x server it will work.  Just run the app from terminal
[18:00] <newp> laptop has Windows 8 on it installed on another partition
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> Drdamnit : the OS doesn't care that the x server is remote.  It's all the same
[18:01] <newp> and it's not the normal purple screen w/ those choices, it's a black screen.
[18:01] <Actionparsnip> Newp: do you have a switching graphics card?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | newp
[18:01] <newp> switching?
[18:02] <Actionparsnip> Newp: intel and nvida
[18:02] <newp> ok thank you ubottu, I will try that.
[18:02] <inkjetunito> do the LTS releases get larger updates? i tried to install 12.04 on an older laptop around 12.06 and the installation froze in an earlz stage. could it be possible that the newer revisions would work (it was likely a kernel problem)
[18:02] <newp> yes I do have an intel i5 & nVidia card
[18:03] <k1l_> inkjetunito: yes, they get a newer kernel with the 12.04.2 release
[18:03] <inkjetunito> k1l_: nice. might be worth retrying then. thanks :)
[18:03] <tiky> ok so how do i run pm-suspend on laptop closeS?
[18:04] <k1l_> inkjetunito: but if its a older laptop it maybe lacks some cpu technics or is just too slow. maybe have a look at lubuntu
[18:04] <m_> Pudge looking for GUI ones
[18:04] <newp> well thank BluesKay, you toggled the bot I see :P
[18:04] <newp> this is a known problem I assume?
[18:04] <Actionparsnip> Newp: its a sany or ivy bridge cpu it will be.  Try the boot option : nouveau.blacklist=1
[18:05] <newp> I'm a bit out of touch with my PC lingo.. how do I select that boot option?
[18:05] <Pudge> m_: lol, for the gui one u have a lot of choice,
[18:05] <newp> sorry to slow you down :(
[18:05] <vedrit> Oh good, I can finally connect. So, I installed Ubuntu last night and, after numerous problems, finally got grub to work and now I'm getting the TTY. I haven't found much of use via searching. Anyone know how I can get the GUI to work?
[18:06] <m_> that's what I am really asked for :) Pudge
[18:06] <Actionparsnip> !nomodeset | newp same method
[18:06] <vedrit> Also, I had to install the startx package
[18:06] <Pudge> tiky: http://people.cs.uct.ac.za/~ksmith/2012/suspend-on-lid-close-in-ubuntu.html
[18:06] <DrDamnit> Actionparsnip: This is the greatest piece of information ever given to me. Thank you.
[18:06] <Pudge> just follow it
[18:07] <Pudge> m_: pcmanfm is good
[18:07] <m_> need  a few more right click menu options Pudge
[18:07] <rtconner> When try to write with non-root user I see "cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device" .. but df -h shows 50% of the drive is free. Root user works fine. No quotas setup on system at all. Any help?
[18:07] <vedrit> Actionparsnip: Was that for me aswell?
[18:08] <newp> thank you guys that are helping me.  I'm gonna try this on the new PC & I'll be back w/ my results.
[18:08] <k1l_> rtconner: can you pastebin a df -h ?
[18:08] <tiky> i did pudge
[18:08] <tiky> i don't think acpi is sending the event, nothing happened
[18:08] <Pudge> tiky: do you have acpi server running?
[18:09] <rtconner> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/5WTQqkWU
[18:09] <tiky> yep, acpid
[18:09] <tiky> does it leave a log?
[18:09] <k1l_> rtconner: /temp is full
[18:09] <k1l_> */tmp
[18:09] <tiky> i don't see anything in dmesg
[18:09] <Pudge> m_: I didn't try a lot of gui FM, so ask sm1 else, sorry
[18:09] <m_> np Pudge
[18:10] <k1l_> rtconner: what ubuntu is that exactly on which machine?
[18:10] <rtconner> k1l_, i clearead all the files out of /tmp and you are corect works now
[18:11] <inkjetunito> in order to install the system with lxde as the de or without any GUI, do i need to use a special iso image?
[18:11] <Pudge> tiky: u should test if the event is triggered when u close the lip
[18:12] <Pudge> inkjetunito: no, u can install normal ubuntu, and than apt-get insall lxde
[18:12] <bazhang> inkjetunito, lubuntu-desktop for the lxde, ubuntu-server for the non gui one, or the mini install
[18:12] <tiky> how do i test that Pudge ?
[18:12] <inkjetunito> Pudge: so there's an otion for 'no desktop environment'?
[18:12] <tiky> /etc/acpi/local didn't exist, maybe this script is supposed to go in /etc/acpi/events?
[18:13] <bazhang> !nox | inkjetunito
[18:13] <inkjetunito> bazhang: thanks!
[18:13] <Pudge> tiky: all the events are in /etc/acpi/events/
[18:14] <tiky> how do i monitor what event is sent?
[18:14] <tiky> if any
[18:15] <Pudge> tiky: normally its done, read your /etc/acpi/lid.sh file
[18:16] <Pudge> tiky: u can simplely modify it for runing pm-suspend after lip close
[18:16] <Pudge> tiky: or u can edit the /etc/apci/local/lid.sh.post file
[18:17] <tiky> lid.sh.post or lid.post.sh?
[18:17] <Pudge> tiky: it depends on ur own system
[18:17] <k1l_> !minimal | inkjetunito
[18:17] <Pudge> tiky: for me , its lid.sh.pre or lid.sh.post
[18:17] <inkjetunito> k1l_: ty
[18:18] <tiky> huh interesting
[18:18] <tiky> i see the problem now
[18:18] <Pudge> tiky: look at which file is used in lid.sh
[18:19] <tiky> phew ok
[18:19] <justinfrontThink> Hi when installing OpenArtist a linux version based ubuntu it seems to not ask me for my user name and password so I can never use sudo on terminal. On first setup it only asks me for keyboard and language.   I don't have a webcam could this be related?  Is this issue common on Ubuntu virtual box installations or is it just an OpenArtist issue?
[18:19] <tiky> i just had to add pm-suspend in /etc/acpi/lid.sh, right after "getXUser" but before "if [ x"$XAUTHORITY" != x"" ]; then
[18:19] <tiky> because i guess the latter wasn't firing off
[18:19] <justinfrontThink> It auto sets me up with username "hero"
[18:19] <johnrb> I need to run a service when the system starts, its a WEBGUI RAID Managment program, i have tried several different ways all with no luck. It needs to be run as root "sudo hptsvr" is the command. Anyone have any suggestions?
[18:20] <tiky> so in the last hour i got nvidia working, 3d working, and now suspend working...
[18:20] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: this is not an ubuntu issue
[18:20] <genii> justinfrontThink: #openartist for support
[18:20] <Pudge> tiky: u can, but for a more clean way, add pm-suspend at the end of the script,
[18:20] <tiky> doesn't the script handle both open and close events tho?
[18:21] <justinfrontThink> Ok how do I get round it, I think I had the same problem with mint... I think it maybe ubuntu issue.
[18:21] <Pudge> tiky: as the system have to finish the script, then go suspend, to avoid unespected problem
[18:21] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: mint is no ubuntu issue, too. see the mint support for that
[18:21] <tiky> wait so what does grep -q closed /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state look for?
[18:21] <tiky> because there's a big if clause, i guess depemnding on the output of that
[18:22] <justinfrontThink> ok so if I try ubuntu and it is still broken I can come back here and get some help?
[18:22] <tiky> and the else clause of that seems to be turning lights on and deactivating xscreensaver
[18:22] <Pudge> tiky: its ok, its ur power button who wakes up ur system
[18:22] <Pudge> tiky: not the lip
[18:22] <tiky> are you sure?
[18:22] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: i know that is not broken on ubuntu. it is something that the spinoffs broke
[18:23] <Pudge> tiky: 90% :)
[18:23] <tiky> just being cautious
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> justinfrontThink, I suspect all the apps in that OS might be in the ubuntu repos if so you could install ubuntu use them and have support here, the ubuntu forums supports all linux and MS and apple.
[18:23] <freddo> everytime i use ubuntu it turns to poo
[18:23] <Pudge> tiky: just have a try, it wont destroy ur system,
[18:24] <Pudge> tiky: u can't be sure for everything, try to be the first one
[18:24] <justinfrontThink> I have to admit that the ubuntu brown and large icons on the left and some other things put me off ubuntu is there a ubuntu version that is not orange brown with huge icons?
[18:24] <tiky> lol dude, now it won't wake up
[18:24] <tiky> i told u
[18:24] <devin> Hey, how's it going?
[18:24] <Pudge> tiky: push the power button
[18:24] <tiky> well sorta, it does a "double take"
[18:24] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: orange brown is no longer the standard color theme
[18:25] <ffio_> i want to start ubuntu packaging from where i should start ?
[18:25] <ffio_> any source or link ?
[18:25] <justinfrontThink> and the huge icons?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> justinfrontThink, That OS you have appears to be using the fallback desktop, said xfce I believe, but there is kubuntu,xubuntu,lubuntu and about 50 other linux DE.
[18:25] <Pici> ffio_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[18:25] <tiky> even when i do the power button it does the double take
[18:25] <tiky> eh it worked better before
[18:25] <k1l_> justinfrontThink: just load an actual release and see it yourself. tastes are different
[18:26] <ffio_> Pici: thanks :)
[18:26] <Pudge> tiky: what do u mean "double take"?
[18:26] <basant> Does anyone have  any idea why my printer will sometimes print correctly and sometimes cycle through paper printing hieroglyphics ?  ubuntu guest on win 7 host and brother hl 2770dw printer
[18:26] <DONKEEZ> my speaker quit working but headphones still do!
[18:27] <ffio_> Pici: i can experiment in my current ubuntu installation or i should do it in a vm ?
[18:27] <Pici> ffio_: The instructions should mention something about using pbuilder, which builds the packages in a chroot environment so they don't directly impact your machine.
[18:28] <azerus> if I use require_membership_of in the pam_winbind config, it works unless the user in AD has "User must change password at next logon" flag enabled, then it ignores the requirements
[18:28] <azerus> has anyone experienced this before?
[18:28] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[18:30] <ffio_> Pici: are there any pre-requisites before starting ?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> basant, Have you stopped any printing while its waiting or in the middle of printing?
[18:31] <uyghurix> ئەسسالامۇ ئەلەيكۇم.
[18:31] <Pici> ffio_: The page I linked should have all the prereqs listed
[18:32] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: are you still having sound issue?
[18:32] <DJones> !arabic | uyghurix
[18:32] <basant> wilee-nilee, I restart the printer then 1 or 2 print goes through fine and then on the third command it cycles through all the paper in the tray ( ruining some of them ) and then starts blinking. I then switch it off and on.  The only change I have made is that I give paper of half length but same width
[18:33] <DONKEEZ> msbrown - yes, still sound issues
[18:33] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[18:34] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: headphones work, speakers not. laptop or desktop?
[18:34] <DONKEEZ> msbrown - laptop
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> basant, Can't be sure what the problem is, however I have found that in general both windows and ubuntu are sensitive to shutdowns of printing processes or deleting them, then requiring a logout or reboot to clear them, thats just my experience not necessarily evryones.
[18:35] <basant> wilee-nilee, I am thinking perhaps it is a better option to write the file to be printed in a shared folder and let the guest win7 to print and then delete any new file in the folder
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> basant, THat was my first thoughy
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> thought*
[18:35] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: can you bring up a term window, and enter the command (no quotes) 'alsamixer'?
[18:35] <basant> but would you know of any program ( for free) that would do this for me from win 7
[18:36] <shine_> What's the deal with the ubuntu thunderbird ppa? I enter "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable" and I get "Cannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection." My internet connection is fine - I'm talking to you all on here aren't I?
[18:37] <DONKEEZ> mbrown - ok
[18:37] <shine_> btw: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mozilla_team_thunderbird_stable <- is where I got the commands to run
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> shine_, Two things PPA's are not supported here, and have you made sure it supports your release.
[18:39] <msbrown> DONKEEZ: ok, assuming you have it running. are any of the outputs <master>, <line> etc. showing muted (mm) or zero level (00)?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> shine_, What is the release you are running?
[18:39] <newp> so far so good guys, thanks for the help.  I just finished disabling fastbook n' stuff & Windows is shutting down (configuring windows features).  I'll let you know if it lets me install ubuntu.
[18:39] <shine_> wilee-nilee: Well, idk, I'm running Kali. Can't find any info specific for Kali on the web and their irc channel is basically non-existant. What do I do to get t-bird installed?
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> shine_, kali is not supported here.
[18:39] <newp> thanks for the quick help guys, I called Asus & they were no help & searched the internet for hours last night to know avail.
[18:40] <shine_> so?
[18:40] <grmcrkrs> goto #kali-linux
[18:40] <shine_> Good god, I get so tired
[18:40] <DONKEEZ> mbrown - none muted
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> shine_, Just saying this is ubuntu support only, not our decision. ;)
[18:40] <DarkAngle> Hello guys, can anyone suggest some (preferable up-to-dated) reading material about setting up custom mail server on ubuntu ?
[18:41] <inkjetunito> newp: what's the problem exactly?
[18:41] <shine_> grmcrkrs: oh shoot, there is a kali channel! thx man
[18:41] <grmcrkrs> np
[18:42] <basant> wilee-nilee, a question. Assuming I have a program on host win 7 that monitors a folder and prints any file that appears and my guest ( ubuntu) generates and puts that file in the folder what will happen if a these things deadlock ?
[18:43] <newp> inkjet:  I was having trouble installing Ubuntu on a new Asus F75V Notebook that came w/ Windows 8.  whenever I booted off the bootable USB drive it gave me the black screen w/ the three options: "Try Ubuntu before installing, Install Ubuntu or Check disk for defects".  no matter which option I picked it would go to a black screen & hang.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> basant, Do you mean some sort of autoprint as it hits a folder?
[18:43] <inkjetunito> newp: have you disabled secure boot?
[18:43] <newp> folks explained it may have to do w/ the UFEI settings.
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | newp
[18:44] <newp> I did just now.  tho it was called "FastBoot" in BIOs & in Windows "Fast Startup"
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> newp, May just be a graphic driver thang check the bots link.
[18:44] <newp> is Secure Boot something different?
[18:44] <inkjetunito> newp: no. fastboot is another thing
[18:44] <newp> where can I disable secureboot?
[18:45] <inkjetunito> newp: in system setup (bios or whatever)
[18:45] <newp> ok, thanks ink
[18:45] <inkjetunito> newp: iirc it's under the 'boot' tab. just did that on an asus today
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you seen the uefi wiki, here is another link in general, but check the nomodeset as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[18:45] <elisa87> I installed python2.7 by sudo apt-get install but when I write which python it says 2.6...how can I update it?
[18:45] <rigid> ahoy
[18:46] <Falcon82> how do i defrag
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Falcon82, You don't have to in linux
[18:46] <Falcon82> cool
[18:46] <k1l_> Falcon82: not needed on ubuntus filesystems
[18:46] <newp> wilee: yes I've seen the UEFI page
[18:46] <basant> wilee-nilee, yep that would the way to go no ?
[18:46] <k1l_> …
[18:46] <rigid> well, you do have to defrag fat i guess :)
[18:46] <basant> autoprint I mean
[18:46] <rigid> is there an ubuntu developer channel? i have a question on dpkg-buildpackage & lintian
[18:47] <Pici> rigid: theres #ubuntu-packaging, which would be a good place to get started
[18:47] <rigid> Pici: perfect, thank you
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> basant, Not familiar with any auto printing sounds glorious in general, but personally I would want a print of a copy making sure the original wa still safe, I write grad papers that take months to write is my relevance.
[18:48] <newp> wilee & inkjet: going to try these other tips if what I was told before & did already doesn't work.  I'll let you know my results.  thank you for your time & help.
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> newp, Cool good luck, also to can tab complete nicks here so they are correct and we are notified your speaking to us. ;)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> basant, You might check in ##windows on auto printing options in general is all.
[18:51] <newp> YES!
[18:51] <newp> I turned of secure boot & it didn't hang
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> newp, Have you made an unallocated space for ubuntu by resizing W8 from its disk manager?
[18:52] <newp> thank you both (inkjet & wilee) SO much.  this has been giving me a headache for the last 2 days
[18:52] <newp> yeah, I'm not that green :P
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> newp, Cool just making sure, you know we care. ;)
[18:54] <newp> I can tell.. you guys actually help unlike most big name company's tech support.
[18:54] <newp> that's what I love about Ubuntu/linux.
[18:55] <newp> not that I run in to many problems at all once it's installed.  at least none that I can't quickly fix myself
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> newp, One thing I do since I have multiple external HD's is clone everything to get back to work if there is a problem without messing around, ands have everything backed up.
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> hi
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> funny question
[18:58] <thepeopleschamp_> does anyone know where i can get a laptop cover like those ones apple sell, covering side on the keyboard and behind the screen?
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> thepeopleschamp_, Not a ubuntu support question, I would look on amazon....etc
[19:00] <Pici> thepeopleschamp_: Thats not really on-topic for #ubuntu.  Maybe ##hardware has a better idea though
[19:09] <elisa87> seriously how i can update to Python 2.7 from Python 2.6?
[19:12] <ezra-s> elisa87, python in ubuntu 13.04 is version 2.7
[19:12] <racho> so i tried installing ubuntu 13.04 over an old install of fedora but apparently the lvm partitions of fedora really messed up the whole thing. now i vgreduced the group but pvremove can't remove the actual physical partition? any idea?
[19:12] <ffio_> Pici: is ubuntu packaging a time consuming this to learn ?
[19:12] <Pici> elisa87: I don't think theres an entry for python in the alternatives system, so you would have to repoint the /usr/bin/python symlink to your python2.7 binary.
[19:12] <ffio_> thing*
[19:13] <Pici> ffio_: It can be, depending on how complicated your packages are.  I've re-learned it a few times in order to build updated packages for myself.
[19:13] <elisa87> Pici:  how i should to that sym link? do you have the command?
[19:13] <ffio_> Pici: ok :)
[19:13] <niel> ok I just setup FTP on an old laptop and when I connect to it I cant actually change files I can only download
[19:14] <niel> anyone know how to allow read and write?
[19:14] <Pici> elisa87: keep in mind that this *might* break things. You may be better off either specifically calling python2.7 by name or changing the shebangs in your python2.7 specific files to the python2.7 binary.
[19:14] <niel> iven been stuck for hours
[19:15] <niel> using vsftpd
[19:15] <racho> elisa87: better complie from source in $HOME/bin or /opt and the export PYTHON_PATH to that install in your .bashrc
[19:16] <zpierce> I have a fresh Ubuntu 13.04 and am having problems with the launcher.  Nothing that isn't already pinned to the launcher shows up on the launcher, so I can't pin new things.  Also Alt-Tab does not show any applications open that are not pinned on the launcher.
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> zpierce, You using the fallback de, what desktop?
[19:16] <thepeopleschamp_> anyone know where i can get something like this for a hp 15 inch laptop?
[19:17] <thepeopleschamp_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-2012-MD102CH-A-MacBook-Pro-13-A1278-Laptop-Solid-Hard-Case-Keyboard-Cover-P-/190731903925?pt=US_Laptop_Cases_Bags&hash=item2c6881e3b5
[19:17] <newp> things are coming along nicely :)
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !ot | thepeopleschamp_
[19:17] <zpierce> Not sure what fallback de is.  Like I said, this is a fresh install.  Only things I've added is OpenJava jdk and Eclipse
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> thepeopleschamp_, YOU have already been told this is offtopic go to the links suggeted.
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> suggested
[19:18] <thepeopleschamp_> sorry
[19:18] <niel> so can anyone help?
[19:18] <niel> I really need it
[19:18] <modder24> Is intended that linux ubuntu 12.04 isn´t shwoing files that start with a 'dot' ? I was messing around with eclpise and ubuntu isn´t showing the .workspace , but i can go in it with the terminal
[19:19] <heath> eww: http://i.imgur.com/3qN5D1K.png
[19:19] <DJones> modder24: Thats right, files starting with a . are hidden files
[19:20] <modder24> is there a way to unhide it ? its in my ubuntu one cloud because i sync with my windows pc and i can´t connect using eclipse to it
[19:20] <bcessa> hi, just put on github an automatic builder for DEB packages of MongoDB with full SSL directly compiling from the official source repo, is far from perfect but hopefully someone can find it useful, any contributions are deeply appreciated https://github.com/bcessa/mongodb-ssl
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> bcessa, That is considered spam here. ;)
[19:21] <bcessa> wo, sorry, didn't knew
[19:22] <bcessa> never mind checking it then ;)
[19:22] <nasir> i need help using squid to filter the web
[19:22] <DJones> modder24: Using a terminal you can do "ls -a" which will show hidden files/folders
[19:22] <zpierce> So, anyone know why my applications don't show up on the launcher, and can't be alt-tab'd to?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> bcessa, Just a should know info, I would think the irc is that way in general, except in specific circumstances.
[19:23] <modder24> but i have to use a GUI  to let it open and i cant use a terminal to open
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> modder24, ctrl-h
[19:23] <msbrown> modder24: in the File browser tool, the view selection (next to the Gear button) will let you set "show hidden files"
[19:24] <DJones> modder24: From memory, if you're using nautilus ctrl-h will show/hide hidden files
[19:24] <bcessa> wilee-nilee: thnx man, appreciate the info, just wanted to let know in case someone was also looking for such a thing
[19:27] <modder24> thanks now it works
[19:30] <vedrit> I have a couple problems: First, I'm trying to install my NVidia drivers through the Additional Drivers application, but it fails and I get pastebin.com/ZL8m4RM8
[19:30] <vedrit> That's the log given
[19:32] <vedrit> Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
[19:34] <bekks> vedrit: Which Ubuntu do you have exactly?
[19:34] <vedrit> 12.04.2 Server
[19:34] <genii> vedrit: "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[19:35] <reisio> vedrit: what does dpkg -L nvidia-304 say?
[19:36] <vedrit> says not installed
[19:36] <reisio> can you install it?
[19:36] <vedrit> But when I do the same for 319 (Which is newer) I get a list of directories
[19:36] <reisio> okay
[19:37] <reisio> vedrit: can you select 319 from the GUI thing?
[19:38] <vedrit> From the Additional Drivers window? It gives an error that installation of the driver failed, and to look at the log (Which has been linked via pastebin)
[19:38] <simgerico> !list
[19:41] <vedrit> genii: I'm a newb to Ubuntu. What applications would be using dpkg? I had just restarted
[19:42] <msbrown> vedrit: perhaps the software updater is running
[19:42] <DrDamnit> How do I get an entire gnome-session using ssh forwarding? (I can get individual applications, but not the whole desktop)
[19:42] <DrDamnit> vedrit: anything that was being installed will generally be using dpkg.
[19:43] <simgerico> http://xdcc.it/devilirc
[19:43] <vedrit> but nothing was being installed, as far as I'm aware. Like I said, I had just restarted
[19:43] <genii> vedrit: Probably the automatic updates was running at the same time when you were trying to install the nvidia driver. Apologies for lag, but I'm working and back and forth from computer. Just that i noticed that error on line 488 of your paste.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> DrDamnit  with gnome2, I did it by running gnome-panel and nautilus remotely, try soemthing similar with gnome3  (i have no remote pc anymore, cannot test it)
[19:52] <matthias_android> I've got an ltsp server, how can i set default wallpaper for my fat clients?
[19:53] <Prock81> is there anyway to make cp  NOT be case sensitive to file paths and file names?
[19:53] <bekks> Prock81: No.
[19:56] <reisio> Prock81: not any way worth pursuing
[19:56] <reisio> for better or worse, A is not a
[19:56] <natefinch> I'm trying to follow this workaround to fix my wireless card: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66810/very-slow-connection-on-an-intelr-wifi-link-5100-agn  but I get FATAL: Module iwlagn not found.  Sounds like I might have a different driver or something?
[19:56] <reisio> we have cases in our text, it can't be undone
[19:56] <Prock81> ok how can i change all capital letters in a  script to lower case... the whole file
[19:57] <reisio> Prock81: cat file | tr 'a-z' 'A-Z' > newfile
[19:57] <Prock81> what does the tr do
[19:57] <bekks> Prock81: It translates characters.
[19:57] <reisio> Prock81: pretty much just that
[19:58] <reisio> although you can make it do a couple subtle variations
[19:58] <Prock81> so the above will take all caps to lowercase?
[19:59] <Monotoko> is there a ubuntu package for unrealircd, or do I need to compile it?
[19:59] <bekks> Prock81: No, it converts all lowercase to uppercase.
[19:59] <kostkon> !find unrealircd
[19:59] <reisio> Monotoko: inspircd is better :)
[19:59] <reisio> Prock81: sorry just the opposite
[20:00] <reisio> Prock81: cat file | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' > newfile
[20:00] <reisio> :)
[20:00] <Prock81> thanks cat file | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' > newfile
[20:00] <reisio> you could also do tr 'A-Z' 'a-z' < original > new
[20:00] <reisio> but that's a little nonlinear for my tastes
[20:00] <tjj> Is there a channel or website where I can ask questions about open source licenses?
[20:01] <reisio> Prock81: whichever is first is from, second is to
[20:01] <Prock81> ?nonlinear
[20:01] <reisio> liney
[20:01] <reisio> a - b - c, vs b - a -c :p
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> tjj  the open source lince is called GPL, general public licence
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> licence*
[20:02] <tjj> MonkeyDust: I'm trying to understand the differences between the licenses here http://opensource.org/licenses
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> tjj  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_licenses#Open-source.2Ffree_software_licenses -- now kindly continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <tjj> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[20:07] <fourqq> fcsk  has been running for 13 hours now..ugh
[20:08] <vedrit> Whats the process name for the server's full desktop manager?
[20:08] <jibreel> vmware service seems to start on startup, how could one go about disabling that? and is it safe to do ?
[20:09] <k1l_> vedrit: what? servers desktop manager?