[17:42] <dio525i> please to anyone who can help i need assistance to patch kernel with this http://www.zamaudio.com/?p=97 i keep getting http://tinypaste.com/1049d1
[17:42] <dto> i've been sort of in doubt about the ubuntu UX situation ever since they moved the X close window button to the far left where it is 1 pixel away from the File menu.
[17:43] <dto> although, perhaps this is a ploy to make people use UNity where the menu is way up top
[17:43] <drc> dto: but if you want to talk about unity, #ubuntu+1 or just to chat about it, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:43] <dto> ok.
[17:43] <jiltdil> DR_willis: how to check that my cpu is 64 bit or not? should i check in flags for lm?
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> cat /proc/cpuinfo jiltdil  perhaps may tell you.
[17:44] <SimonPHOENIX> i did install xorg, but when im using ssh username@host -x
[17:44] <SimonPHOENIX> doesnt work
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> SimonPHOENIX:  -X is differnt then -x
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> SimonPHOENIX:  total opposites..
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> and i think its ssh -X user@host
[17:45] <larious> anyone can help me on how to install my USB modem
[17:45] <nameless`> SimonPHOENIX: be awaware that the option Xforwarding must be set on the ssh config on your remote server
[17:45] <larious> can anyone help me on how to install my USB modem
[17:46] <nothingspecial> -x disables X forwarding
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> larious:  man.. at least Give Details - so people dont play 20 questions with you again... its a 3g USB (insert brand)  ......
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> BBL.
[17:47] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis. Nice to see you again.
[17:47] <larious> anyone can help me on how to install my 3G Huawei USB modem
[17:47] <SimonPHOENIX> someone know better idea to do that?
[17:47] <larious> can anyone help me on how to install my 3G Huawei USB modem
[17:48] <SimonPHOENIX> larious, i have same and i did not have any problem
[17:48] <SimonPHOENIX> its searching device automaticly
[17:49] <larious> SimonPHOENIX: please can you help me step on how to do that in ubuntu 10.04
[17:49] <Curly_Q> Has anyone here used UltraVNC with Ubuntu?
[17:49] <larious> SimonPHOENIX: this cant let me go on internet
[17:49] <SimonPHOENIX> larious, im using 10.10, meybe you should upgrade to 10.10
[17:49] <SimonPHOENIX> then
[17:50] <larious> How do I upgrade when I dont have internet
[17:50] <SimonPHOENIX> i even have drivers in ubuntu for that
[17:50] <michel> Hi.
[17:50] <larious> can you help me witht the driver
[17:50] <ricenut> Anybody know how to start recovering from Ubuntu 10 CD?
[17:51] <larious> SimonPHOENIX: can you help me witht the driver
[17:51] <aaron11> Hello larious, SimonPHOENIX are you helping him too?
[17:51] <Curly_Q> I entered  192.168.0.***   IP address to log into Ubuntu but I would like to know how to initiate ubuntu to receive that.
[17:51] <larious> aaron11: am here
[17:51] <michel> If I am to get a netbook for online browsing and having a portable personal file storage device/media center with sub-par specs, what is the best option for performance? Xubuntu?
[17:51] <aaron11> larious, You need to get something called usb_modeswitch.
[17:52] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: via ssh?
[17:52] <michel> The system should preferably be user-friendly.
[17:52] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: oh, i misread.. vnc
[17:52] <Curly_Q> Via UltraVNC Bastidrazor.
[17:52] <aaron11> larious, Are you on the computer which requiers the internet modem?
[17:52] <larious> aaron11: can I download it to my window then transfer to to my Ubuntu
[17:52] <larious> nope
[17:52] <aaron11> larious, Ok, yes you can
[17:52] <aaron11> ill give u the links
[17:52] <aaron11> one second
[17:52] <SimonPHOENIX> larious, start update manager system, should find drivers automaticly
[17:53] <larious> aaron11: I have dual OS
[17:53] <Curly_Q> I am logged in with SSH with a command prompt with the Linux server though. I am using another Windows box to VNC to the server.
[17:53] <aaron11> larious, What modem is it in the first place
[17:53] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: if you have ultraVNC running it should be waiting to accept a connection.
[17:53] <larious> SimonPHOENIX: Have done that many times
[17:53] <Curly_Q> Connection failed.
[17:53] <larious> Huawei 3G EC226
[17:53] <aaron11> larious, You know I was in the same situation as you.
[17:53] <aaron11> Ok
[17:54] <aaron11> larious, Have you tried google?
[17:54] <Curly_Q> Bastidrazor, I am using a portable Ultra VNC client not the server.
[17:54] <aaron11> larious, Ok let me give you some links
[17:54] <larious> aaron11: yea but google didnt help
[17:54] <bfvtech> can some one tell me how to get my mouse to work on ubuntu 10.10
[17:54] <larious> aaron11: I will be very glad to solve my problem
[17:55] <Curly_Q> I would like my Ubuntu Linux server to see the Ultra VNC client log into it.
[17:55] <aaron11> larious, Oh it will be, hopefuly :)
[17:55] <KapK> can anybody help me to install this please? http://nomnom.sourceforge.net/
[17:55] <larious> aaron11: still waiting
[17:56] <aaron11> larious, Ok download these: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/usb-modeswitch-data-20110227.tar.bz2 and http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/usb-modeswitch-1.1.7.tar.bz2
[17:56] <Curly_Q> SSH works fine putty works fine and Xming and Xlaunch works OK but I am trying to use a GUI with Ultra VNC.
[17:56] <aaron11> !patience | larious
[17:56] <aaron11> hmmm... I still know how to use you lill guy! :)
[17:56] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC  have you read this?
[17:57] <Curly_Q> I will give it a try, I think I bookmarked that site though. Let me take a look.   Thanks.
[17:57] <kilkor> Having a problem with nautilus mounting an SMB share with user/pass.  It seems to ignore the user:pass format in smb://DOMAIN;user:pass@ip/share.  I see some mentions of this as a possible bug back pre ubuntu 8.  Is this something that still isn't working?
[17:57] <aaron11> larious, Are you getting those?
[17:57] <larious> yea
[17:57] <larious> let me download it
[17:57] <KapK> can anybody help me to install this please? http://nomnom.sourceforge.net/
[17:58] <aaron11> larious, Ok. Once you get it tell me.
[17:58] <aaron11> KapK, Lemmy take a look
[17:58] <KapK> cheers
[17:58] <kilkor> Having a problem with nautilus mounting an SMB share with user/pass.  It seems to ignore the user:pass format in smb://DOMAIN;user:pass@ip/share.  I see some mentions of this as a possible bug back pre ubuntu 8.  Is this something that still isn't working?
[17:58] <ricenut> Does anybody know how to start recovering from Ubuntu 10 CDs? CD boots directly into a try or install screen. I try to log out, found the option to rescue install but have no password for the session. Help, anyone knows a way around to do rescue install from the Ubuntu 10 cd?
[17:58] <kilkor> argh.. sry
[17:59] <Curly_Q> Bastidrazor what confounds me is that it uses commands like sleep and so on. What gives?
[17:59] <aaron11> KapK, Uhhh... thats a weird thing. o.O
[17:59] <larious> aaron you gave me twoi link, do I need to download the two
[17:59] <aaron11> larious, Yes
[17:59] <Curly_Q> command="/bin/sleep<PHONE_NUMBER>":no-agent-forwarding:no-pty:no-user-rc:no-X11-forwarding:permitopen="localhost:5900" <public key>
[18:00] <KapK> @aaron11, haha yeah. but have you got any idea how to install it?
[18:00] <aaron11> KapK, Yes, have you worked with a terminal.
[18:00] <aaron11> before
[18:00] <KapK> yup
[18:00] <KapK> i little
[18:00] <aaron11> KapK, Do you have the tar.gz
[18:00] <KapK> yup
[18:00] <KapK> in the home folder
[18:00] <ruan> what windows emulator would be best for gaming? wine isn't working for me
[18:01] <bfvtech> how to get mouse to left click
[18:01] <Curly_Q> Do I need a Public Key to accept VNC?
[18:01] <jhonny> tengo una mini laptop acer aspire one y no se ve la camara
[18:01] <aaron11> KapK, Have you tried the README?
[18:01] <jhonny> necesito ayuda
[18:01] <KapK> aaron11, yeah but didnt help a lot..
[18:02] <Curly_Q> Using a SSH client automatically created a Public or private key.
[18:02] <jhonny> quien me puede ayudar por favor
[18:02] <aaron11> KapK, Ok open a terminal and go to the application's DIR
[18:02] <Curly_Q> Linux accepted it.
[18:02] <aaron11> KapK, Or does that sound to complicated?
[18:02] <blackxored> is there a trustable way to try unity on maverick???
[18:02] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: actually -read- that page.. hitting the hilights will help confuse you.
[18:02] <KapK> aaron11, na im there
[18:02] <larious> aaron11 have dont it
[18:03] <larious> I mean have downloaded it
[18:03] <Curly_Q> OK.
[18:03] <aaron11> ok
[18:03] <aaron11> KapK, run sudo make
[18:03] <aaron11> KapK, then sudo make install
[18:03] <larious> So what nxt aarom
[18:03] <aaron11> larious, Ok now, go place them somewhere comfortable
[18:04] <larious> ok aaron
[18:04] <aaron11> larious, Where did u put them
[18:04] <KapK> aaron11, after sudo make it says make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[18:04] <larious> they are on my window
[18:04] <aaron11> KapK, then try make install
[18:04] <ddilinger> whats the easiest way to get ubuntu onto a computer with no booting options other than a hard disk?  if there any validity to the idea of copying the install disk onto a partion of the hd, and making it grub-bootable?
[18:04] <aaron11> sudo make install
[18:04] <Curly_Q> Bastidrazor, this is my first time trying VNC with Ubuntu. I don't mind doing the work if it does work.   :)
[18:05] <larious> aaron are you there
[18:05] <aeon-ltd> ddilinger: got windows? theres wubi
[18:05] <ddilinger> aeon-ltd: nope
[18:05] <ricenut> Does anybody know how to start recovering from Ubuntu 10 CDs? CD boots directly into a try or install screen. I try to log out, found the option to rescue install but have no password for the session. Help, anyone knows a way around to do rescue install from the Ubuntu 10 cd?
[18:05] <ddilinger> aeon-ltd: i got raw computer with a hard drive
[18:05] <aaron11> !who | larious
[18:05] <jhonny> I need help
[18:05] <aaron11> !ask | jhonny
[18:05] <KapK> aaron11, make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[18:06] <Curly_Q> Bastidrazor, I am trying to set this up remotely through SSH.
[18:06] <aaron11> KapK,
[18:06] <aaron11> one sec
[18:06] <larious> aaron: are you there
[18:06] <larious> ok
[18:06] <aaron11> larious, Use tab to complete my name.
[18:06] <aaron11> larious, Ok where are you
[18:07] <aaron11> larious, Which directory I mean.
[18:08] <svm_invictvs> Hey, using update-alternatives, is there a way I can get the program just to print out the installation path of a particular location of a library.
[18:08] <svm_invictvs> er package, rather
[18:08] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: that page tells you everything you need.
[18:08] <ruan> what windows emulator would be best for gaming? wine isn't working for me
[18:09] <bfvtech> could some one help me get my mouse to left click on ubuntu 10.10
[18:09] <svm_invictvs> For instance I want to add to my .bashrc something like JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> But, I want to do it in such a way it will always set the selected alternative.
[18:10] <coz_> hey all
[18:10] <svm_invictvs> eg JAVA_HOME=`update-alternative list java` or something
[18:10] <jhonny> how can enter a space of spanish
[18:10] <aeon-ltd> !es | jhonny
[18:10] <hamush> can someone recommend a web browser that supports running multiple instances?
[18:11] <ruan> hamush: multiple instances as in different processes?
[18:11] <ruan> hamush: why exactly?
[18:11] <ddilinger> ok alternate question,  when i load the nvidia binary driver on ubuntu 10.10 w/ 7100GS video card, it either locks the whole machine or fails.  Xorg.0.log says 'Initializing extension GLX' then 'Backtrace' as the last two lines of the file which leads me to think library incompatability
[18:11] <ddilinger> any ideas?
[18:11] <eBittin> somone near Stockholm wants a powermac 4400/200?
[18:11] <Curly_Q> Bastidrazor, I read it about 25 times. It is giving me a headache. I will read it again and again. It is a bit abstruse. Probably my inexperience with VNC.
[18:11] <aeon-ltd> eBittin: thats offtopic, also this isn't craiglist...
[18:12] <hamush> ruan: i've got dual monitors implemented with multiple x servers and i'm trying to figure out a way to have browsers on both
[18:12] <ddilinger> hamush: not typically with multiple x servers, at least thats not the easy way
[18:12] <_Neytiri_> i have just installed ubuntu on my computer and no errors occurred in the installation but when i tried to start it, it wouldn't boot just a flashing _ on the screen
[18:12] <ricenut> Does anybody know how to start recovering from Ubuntu 10 CDs? CD boots directly into a try or install screen. I try to log out, found the option to rescue install but have no password for the session. Help, anyone knows a way around to do rescue install from the Ubuntu 10 cd?
[18:13] <ddilinger> _Neytiri_: give it 10 minutes on that screen?
[18:13] <ddilinger> _Neytiri_: sometimes if the kernel level graphics dont initialize, i just get the blank screen while it checks the drives(fsck)
[18:13] <_Neytiri_> it hasnt been to minuts yet but i can wait
[18:13] <hamush> ddilinger: that's too bad... my graphics hardware is strange, so multiple x servers is my only option
[18:13] <maslen2> Could someone help me with making an ubuntu machine into a transparent bridge?
[18:13] <ricenut> Does anybody know how to start recovering from Ubuntu 10 CDs? CD boots directly into a try or install screen. I try to log out, found the option to rescue install but have no password for the session. Help, anyone knows a way around to do rescue install from the Ubuntu 10 cd?
[18:14] <ddilinger> _Neytiri_: not sure it'll work, but its happened to me several times.  It wont have to do the check every time, just 1 a month or so
[18:14] <_Neytiri_> ok
[18:14] <_Neytiri_> it was a fresh install with quite a few large disks
[18:15] <bastidrazor> hamush: chromium can have multiple processes running
[18:16] <bastidrazor> Curly_Q: the 'Guide to example scenarios' section should be telling you exactly what you need and how to do it.
[18:18] <hamush> bastidrazor: not on multiple x servers, unfortunately... it's unsupported because of a profile sharing issue
[18:18] <EzeQL> nameless` ty !
[18:19] <bastidrazor> hamush: let me start a 2nd X and test.
[18:20] <bfvtech> installed ubuntu 10.10 mouse will not left click googled problem found 6 different forums that said to install xserver-xorg-evdev and update did that and mouse worked for 5 min then stopped trying to find solution could some one help please
[18:20] <nameless`> EzeQL: what about ?
[18:20] <_Neytiri_> its still not booting
[18:20] <hamush> bastidrazor: thanks :)
[18:20] <EzeQL> => <nameless`> EzeQL: grep text *.php
[18:20] <nishant> i installed gtalk from the browser how do I use it now ??
[18:20] <Zwei> Hello, over 80% of my memory is in use as cache. What is going on? I have 4GB RAM and I'm using Lucid.
[18:21] <schnuffle> Zwei: linux takes all te free memory to cache
[18:21] <DarsVaeda> how do I disable the keyring password request after startup on maverick?
[18:22] <bastidrazor> hamush: and you are right, it opens a new window on X1 instead of X2
[18:22] <Zwei> schnuffle: oh. Thanks. I presume that if I need more memory, it'll be released from cache?
[18:22] <schnuffle> Zwei: yes
[18:23] <bastidrazor> hamush: possibly use firefox on X1 then chrome on X2?
[18:23] <Zwei> schnuffle: thanks a lot.
[18:23] <shan313> hi
[18:23] <hamush> bastidrazor: that's what i've been doing :) it's a little bit cumbersome, though, since i'm so picky about my settings... i might try to research some kind of syncing mechanism for multiple profiles or something
[18:24] <shan313> how to install google Earth on my ubuntu???
[18:24] <hamush> bastidrazor: like an autosync profile on exit script, maybe
[18:24] <schnuffle> shan313: http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/06/install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[18:24] <bastidrazor> hamush: possibly have 2 profiles.
[18:25] <bastidrazor> !googleearth | shan313
[18:25] <_Neytiri_> i dotn even see the grub bootloader popping up
[18:25] <KapK> anyone knows a good method to download youtube videos?
[18:25] <Guest19051> Hi, I am Ubuntu newbie
[18:26] <skullboy> how do i derterman the number in this script "mplayer -zoom -fs -xy NUM video.avi
[18:26] <skullboy> "
[18:26] <Guest94765> Hi, ive had a problem since ubuntu 10.04 - when I run the live cd before install the drivers with my ati hd4900 card the screen/desktop is off the edges of my monitor
[18:26] <Anomynous> KapK I know a good method
[18:26] <KapK> what is it?
[18:26] <skullboy> how do i derterman the number in this script "mplayer -zoom -fs -xy NUM video.avi"
[18:26] <Guest19051> looking for software to control fans and cpu temp. anybody may suggest something?
[18:26] <skullboy> how do i derterman the number in this script "mplayer -zoom -fs -xy NUM video.avi"
[18:26] <Guest94765> 1920 x 1200, seems to effect all live cds since 10.04
[18:28] <schnuffle> Guest19051: lm-sensors should do the job http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/127/how-to-control-fan-speed-lm-sensors-in-ubuntu
[18:28] <delocated> Guest19051, rtsensors lm-sensors, do some digging
[18:28] <Guest19051> thx, but it's still too complex
[18:28] <skullboy> how do i derterman the number in this script "mplayer -zoom -fs -xy NUM video.avi"
[18:29] <Guest19051> I need someting really simple to avoid digging into the system. Just install
[18:29] <Junglism> hail ubuntu
[18:29] <Guest19051> it's only the 3ed day I'am playing w/ubuntu
[18:29] <piercedwater> Can someone suggest some cli usenet readers that assemble binaries after downloading, besides brag?
[18:30] <Guest19051> like it very much but still the 3rd day only... :-(
[18:30] <kilkor> don't think xchat worked to get this question out last time so I'm sorry if this get spammed.  I'm having some troubles with nautilus.  From terminal I do a nautilus smb://user:pass@ip/c$ to access a share from a windows box.  Nautilus acts as if I didn't specify a user:pass combo in the smb:// link.  Anyone familiar with this or know a workaround through command line to access/mount a windows share?
[18:30] <delocated> Guest19051, you're going to have to 'dig' at some point. You're first step is to read the instructions, then ask for help
[18:30] <delocated> You'll get better results that way
[18:31] <bastidrazor> !manual | Guest19051
[18:31] <Guest19051> I am into the subject for 5hrs now...
[18:31] <Guest19051> and I know the RTFM principle :-)
[18:32] <Guest19051> the hardware isn't mine and i am afraid to damage cpu and so on...
[18:32] <bastidrazor> Guest19051: that isn't the point. the point is you read and learn before asking questions that the manual explains. you're knowledge base will improve also.
[18:32] <bastidrazor> !sensors
[18:33] <_Neytiri_> ddilinger,  it still hasnt booted up
[18:33] <delocated> Well, if you are scared of hw damage, I would suggest you dont play with fan speeds
[18:33] <Guest19051> thx ubottu, will do so
[18:34] <schnuffle> ubottu: is a robot
[18:34] <Guest19051> just thought there is a ready made software just to be downloaded such as speedfan in M$
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest19051: what does it do?
[18:35] <khrm> There is as told to you by ubottu
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !away | captn-gone
[18:35] <schnuffle> Guest19051: there is sensors-applet to display the values
[18:35] <afman> Strange question if you are compiling something via command line how do you change the directory it is installed into?
[18:36] <afman> So when you do make install
[18:36] <afman> How do you change the target install directory
[18:36] <ddilinger> afman: often times, make DESTDIR=/path/to/root install
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !away > captn-gone
[18:36] <ddilinger> afman: or alternatively, to be more caccurate, ./configure --prefix=/path/to/perfix
[18:36] <erUSUL> afman: most hae ./configure --install-prefix= or some such
[18:36] <schnuffle> afman: moly in the configure step: ./configure --prefix/usr/local
[18:36] <ddilinger> _Neytiri_:  :(
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> afman: its defined in the makefile
[18:37] <_Neytiri_> i didnet even see the boot loader pop up
[18:37] <afman> Thank you so much that makes sense.
[18:37] <_Neytiri_> could it be the 4 tb raid  drive i have?
[18:37] <Guest19051> true, schnuffle. problem is it does display a blank window in ubuntu 10.10
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: what video chip do you have, please?
[18:38] <schnuffle> Guest19051: have you done sudo sensors-detect in a terminal to detect te sensors
[18:38] <KapK> hey anybody know how to install this app? http://nomnom.sourceforge.net/
[18:38] <TanKCR> morning, anybody know anything about SASL?
[18:38] <_Neytiri_> its onbord, i believe its an intel chip
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: doubtful its any sized raid array
[18:39] <Guest19051> no i didn't. it's my 3rd day and have no idea about console commands yet
[18:39] <Guest19051> anyway thx for all suggestions  see ya...
[18:39] <TanKCR> SASL anybody?
[18:39] <schnuffle> Guest19051: then just read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[18:39] <Guest19051> OK, thx a lot
[18:40] <_Neytiri_> i have had ubuntu on it before and it ran just fine, i just replaced all my drives
[18:40] <schnuffle> TanKCR: A lot of hassle with SASL already, yes :)
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[18:41] <TanKCR> schnuffle its killing me
[18:41] <TanKCR> behind a stupid ATT device, and IRC is requiring SASL
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: i have to use it with my intel vga too
[18:42] <rstacruz> how can I upgrade to Ubuntu+1 via the terminal?
[18:42] <schnuffle> TanKCR: IRC requites SASL? please elaborate on your problem
[18:42] <_Neytiri_> the bord is a old bord
[18:42] <erUSUL> rstacruz: do-upgrade-release ?
[18:42] <_Neytiri_> but it worked before i added in 2 2 tb drives
[18:42] <TanKCR> schnuffle: I will post the error I get
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> rstacruz: you mean natty?
[18:43] <schnuffle> TanKCR: use pastebin
[18:43] <_Neytiri_> i wonder if its 10.10 its not likeing
[18:43] <erUSUL> rstacruz: do-release-upgrade perdon
[18:43] <rstacruz> ActionParsnip: yes, natty alpha.
[18:43] <afman> ddilinger: Thanks for the tip that worked like a champ.
[18:43] <rstacruz> great, thanks, i assume do-release-upgrade needs update-manager-core. :)
[18:43] <napalmx> does anyone have a recommendation for a console based irc client?
[18:43] <TanKCR> *** Notice -- You need to identify via SASL to use this server
[18:43] <rstacruz> also, anyone with experience with upgrading to natty right now?
[18:43] <rstacruz> napalmx: irsii
[18:44] <TanKCR>  *** Your forward and reverse DNS do not match, ignoring hostname
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: maverick can manage several Tbs of space. 4 is not a lot
[18:44] <honeybee> My box is using Software Rendering (according to glxinfo) ... I have 845G graphics chipset, which the system doesnt seem to be using. Any ideas, pointers, helping hands appreciated.
[18:44] <napalmx> thanks
[18:44] <ddilinger> afman: note that when using --prefix, it will be taken into account inside the application(default file locations, etc), when using DESTDIR it just puts the prefix before the file path
[18:44] <_Neytiri_> i know but thats the only thing i can think of that changed
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> rstacruz: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:44] <napalmx> rstacruz: is that available in the apt repos?  i don't see it
[18:45] <schnuffle> TanKCR: which client, which erver?
[18:45] <TanKCR> I would really like to use pidgin for IRC, but xchat has been the only one I can get working
[18:45] <rstacruz> yes napalmx, sudo apt-get install inssi
[18:45] <rstacruz> irssi*
[18:45] <TanKCR> chat.freenode.net
[18:45] <s0u][ight> hello, can i put the upper scroll button of windows right above the bottom one,
[18:45] <s0u][ight> ?
[18:45] <usr13> TanKCR: Can't even get irssi to work?
[18:45] <rstacruz> napalmx: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:45] <napalmx> ahh
[18:45] <napalmx> you said irsii the first time, thanks :P
[18:45] <schnuffle> TanKCR: I'm jut using pidgin and i don't see why it should need SASL
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: try the tweaks. They are easy to roll back if it doesn't help
[18:46] <_Neytiri_> i cant get into the system
[18:46] <TanKCR> its because of the ATT device I think
[18:46] <usr13> _Neytiri_: What seems to be the problem?
[18:46] <natrixnatrix89> How do i purge all settings for rhythmbox? usually i go to home and find the map called .<my app> and delete it. and then the application is like fresh and purged.. But how do i find rhythmbox?
[18:46] <coz_> honeybee,   I think,, but am not sure that that has been blacklisted in 10.10  but let me check to be sure if I can
[18:46] <TanKCR> jordan.freenode.net: (notice) *** Notice -- You need to identify via SASL to use this server
[18:46] <TanKCR> thats from pidgin
[18:47] <honeybee> coz_ thx
[18:47] <rishu_> hi
[18:47] <honeybee> hi
[18:47] <honeybee> :P
[18:47] <_Neytiri_> usr13,  i installed ubuntu 10.10 server and i cant get it to bot it just sits at a _
[18:47] <katselphrime> hey
[18:47] <afman> ddilinger: I noticed that thanks for telling me the difference I'm actually going to save that in a notepad lol
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> s0u][ight: should be able, not sure if its set in gconf or the individual app
[18:48] <usr13> _Neytiri_: How far did it get before stalling?
[18:48] <schnuffle> TanKCR: have you installed libsasl2-2 and what is ATT :)?
[18:48] <azertyy> hello
[18:48] <shan313> how to install google earth on my ubuntu 10.10
[18:48] <TanKCR> its a cell provider AT&T
[18:48] <usr13> shan313: use the package manager
[18:48] <_Neytiri_> past the bios post screen
[18:48] <azertyy> is there any ubuntu security channel ?
[18:48] <usr13> !non-free | shan313
[18:48] <TanKCR> and yes libsasl2-2 is installed
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> shan313: its in software centre
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> !googleearth
[18:49] <napalmx> booyeah
[18:49] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Thanks.  (I said non-free but was mistake)
[18:49] <sre-su> Adobe Flash plugin in Mozilla Firefox is crashing many times with no report. The plugin was installed from Adobe.
[18:50] <sre-su> How do I fix it it?
[18:50] <usr13> !Multiverse
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Usr13: no harm done
[18:50] <Richzilla> im getting a security error when i attempt to update http://paste.ubuntu.com/577975/
[18:50] <Richzilla> any ideas?
[18:50] <napalmx> next question: anyone have a preferred console based gtalk client?
[18:50] <napalmx> i have used mcabber and freetalk in the past
[18:50] <usr13> Richzilla: Is your system fully updated?
[18:50] <napalmx> just wondering about alternatives
[18:51] <_Neytiri_> i got it
[18:51] <rstacruz> is it possible to upgrade releases (10.10 => 11.04) where the packages are downloaded in parallel (like apt-fast or apt-metalink)?
[18:51] <Richzilla> usr13: as far as im aware
[18:51] <zz_> napalmx, emacs
[18:51] <napalmx> haha, emacs
[18:51] <napalmx> good one
[18:51] <usr13> Richzilla: Check and see first.  Run the update utility
[18:51] <zz_> http://emacs-jabber.sourceforge.net/
[18:51] <napalmx> im an emacs hater :/
[18:52] <jiltdil> !hardlink
[18:52] <sre-su> usr13: Was that multiverse info you pulled from ubottu for me?
[18:52] <napalmx> ill check that out though, thanks
[18:52] <TanKCR> schnuffle: no ideas?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> sre-su: can you pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[18:52] <usr13> sre-su: For anyone that needs it.  But what was your question?
[18:52] <schnuffle> TanKCR: just suring a bit
[18:52] <TanKCR> k
[18:52] <schnuffle> surfing
[18:53] <LjL> rstacruz: i don't really know, but i suppose if you --download-only a dist-upgrade, then the cached packages will be used
[18:53] <Richzilla> usr13: i tried that, it didnt point out nay updates, but i get this instead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577977/
[18:53] <schnuffle> TanKCR: do you use a proxy?
[18:53] <rstacruz> LjL, dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade releases :)
[18:54] <LjL> rstacruz: sure it does. of course you need to change your sources.list first.
[18:54] <Zed`> Hai - Can someone point me to docs on growing the boot partition size in Ubuntu Server - I have increased the VMDK store on ESX
[18:54] <TanKCR> schnuffle: no
[18:54] <LjL> rstacruz: it's also not the recommended method, but that's another story - but as long as you only use it to download the packages...
[18:54] <filiptc_> hi! I was doing a ssh update with do-release-upgrade and accidentaly hit ctrl-c. running do-release-upgrade again tells me: No new release found
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Ljl: not the advised way to upgrade to the next release
[18:55] <filiptc_> can anyone help me out?
[18:55] <schnuffle> TanKCR: okay then it seems that your provider may block necessary ports
[18:55] <afman> filiptc_: I suggest uninstalling ssh and reinstalling.
[18:55] <TanKCR> schnuffle: but from what I have been reading some mobile hotspots block ports
[18:55] <TanKCR> schnuffle: lol
[18:55] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=gparted+resize+root+partition&aq=3&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=c7b3ed2888f1586a
[18:55] <erUSUL> rstacruz: download the alternate cd iso and use that to dist-upgrade. more than half would be dled (in the iso ) when you start
[18:55] <jiltdil> what is difference between egrep and grep?
[18:56] <sre-su> Action --? http://pastebin.com/dmmpd4ii
[18:56] <sre-su> usr13: Adobe Flash plugin in Mozilla Firefox is crashing many times with no report. The plugin was installed from Adobe. How do I fix it?
[18:56] <TanKCR> schnuffle: the question is, how do I work around that, SASL seems to be the requirement, but it does not work very well
[18:56] <erUSUL> jiltdil: egrep == grep -E it uses more powerfull regex ( extended )
[18:56] <filiptc_> adman: ssh? i don't follow? it seems to work fine... I just can't get back to running the upgrading process
[18:56] <Silent93> hi, I can't get my live cd to boot, the cd is fine (I've used it countless times) when i try to boot it shows the loading screen with the ubuntu logo and four dots then eventually just shows a greenish stripy mush on screen and I can't drop into a shell using control alt F1, ideas?
[18:56] <filiptc_> *afman
[18:57] <jiltdil> erUSUL: plz give a example i want to see it
[18:57] <usr13> Richzilla: sudo apt-get update
[18:57] <afman> filiptc_: You probably did a partial upgrade, removing the entire package and just putting back on would be much more simple than trying to parse through which part of the package you accidentally already installed.
[18:57] <kilkor> Is there a method I can use in a one line command to mount a windows share using authentication that doesn't involve nautilus?
[18:57] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: can I use the boot iso?
[18:57] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: can I use the server iso?
[18:58] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: Should be able to.
[18:58] <Zed`> thanks
[18:58] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: if you can boot "live" then gparted should be there
[18:58] <afman> Has anyone tried Ubuntu PE?
[18:58] <schnuffle> TanKCR: have you trie to use 6666 or 6668 instead? of course the server must listen there to
[18:58] <filiptc_> afman: ok, and how do i proceed?
[18:58] <elad`> When I go to the download page, why is 32-bit the recommended version? Should I steer clear of the x64 version?
[18:58] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: got it. thanks much
[18:58] <elad``> When I go to the download page, why is 32-bit the recommended version? Should I steer clear of the x64 version?
[18:58] <erUSUL> jiltdil: for example with egrep you can search a foo or bar like this grep -E 'foo|bar' with bre you can not
[18:58] <erUSUL> jiltdil: "man regex"
[18:59] <erUSUL> jiltdil: and #regex channel in freenode
[18:59] <jiltdil> erUSUL:thanx
[18:59] <tim167> my ubuntu sometimes freezes completely, i can do nothingbut turn off the computer with the power switch...i can also not see any error message, just sudden freeze, did anyone have this ? (Maverick)
[18:59] <TanKCR> schnuffle: trying 6666 now
[18:59] <usr13> elad``: It depends on what you want.    But again, it depends on what your wants / needs are.
[18:59] <theperfecttaco> is there any way to tweak the unity launcher to autohide in 10.10?
[19:00] <tim167> elad i think you should only use 64bit if you need it for a reason, not all software supports it, yet...
[19:00] <TanKCR> is that an SSL port?
[19:00] <usr13> elad``: The shourt answer is, yes  (32bit is recommeneded)
[19:01] <afman> filiptc_: Use synaptic to remove whatever ssh package you have then just reinstall it. Alternatively you could use sudo apt-get remove [ssh package name here (probably openssh)]
[19:01] <erUSUL> 64 bits compatibility issues are things of the past imho
[19:01] <schnuffle> TanKCR: no, see http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/13270
[19:01] <elad``> usr13: Why 32?\
[19:02] <Jimmothy> can i make an init.d script depend on other things before running?
[19:02] <erUSUL>  #585940
[19:02] <kilkor> is there a better channel I should be directing this smb share question to?
[19:02] <msargin> close
[19:02] <erUSUL>  585940
[19:02] <kilkor> better as in more fitting*
[19:02] <elad``> Out of curiosity, which would you recommend for Win7? x64 or x32?
[19:02] <filiptc_> adman: wait, why just ssh? I did a complete distrib update with "apt-get update"
[19:02] <rootpt> what is Ubuntu One and for what its good?
[19:02] <erUSUL> **** the bot https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[19:03] <filiptc_> adman: sorry, dammit, wrong quote
[19:03] <filiptc_> afman: do-release-upgrade
[19:03] <jiltdil> computer has net connection as i ping any web it pings but when i want to open any web it doesnot open why?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> elad``: is it for a virtualized system?
[19:03] <erUSUL> rootpt: virtual remote disk a la dropbox
[19:03] <erUSUL> rootpt: #ubuntu-one
[19:03] <usr13> elad``: The long answer... Hummm.... well the long answer  is very long and has many twists and rurns in it.  ... While most every thing you want is there in the 64bit install, and it all works just fine, once in a while, you will run across something that is not available in 64bit.
[19:03] <TanKCR> schnuffle: that sucks!
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> rootpt: its an online storage
[19:04] <kilkor> jiltdil: can you curl the page and get a response?
[19:04] <filiptc_> I did a "do-release-upgrade" over ssh to update 10.04 to 10.10 and quit with ctrl-c while it was installing
[19:04] <filiptc_> now I'm stuck with a partial install
[19:04] <schnuffle> TanKCR: for me it works flawlessly
[19:04] <elad-> It's not for a virtualized system. Win7 x32 runs... annoyingly. I'm seeing keyboard input lag, things tend to slow down after a few hours...
[19:04] <magn3ts> LibreOffice is a poop-stain on the face of Ubuntu.
[19:05] <rootpt> ActionParsnip, yeah, but i don't understand for what its good (sorry my inglish)
[19:05] <filiptc_> how do I "roll back" the partial installation to start fresh (or how do I resume the installation)
[19:05] <rootpt> ActionParsnip, yeah, but i don't understand for what its good (sorry my inglish)
[19:05] <jiltdil> kilkor: when i type url to open it says connection timeout after long time
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> filiptc_: installing or just downloadi
[19:05] <filiptc_> installing
[19:05] <schnuffle> TanKCR: I'm based in germany but from what i read in the net, ATT seems to be really crappy
[19:05] <usr13> elad``: ... At which time you will be faced with building a multilib system, which is ok, not all that difficult and it works fine.  WHen you build a multilib system, you are then able to run 32bit and 64bit applications side by side and it works great.  BUT, it is a bit of a pain and it is a bit complicated.  (Not something for a new or novice user).
[19:05] <erUSUL> filiptc_: run ┬½ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ┬╗ and ┬½ sudo dpkg --configure -a ┬╗ alternatively until the upgrade finishes ?
[19:05] <jiltdil> kilkor: is something related to  one of filesystem?
[19:05] <nishant> Is cheese workig well for webcam ? I find that it doesnt record properly
[19:06] <kilkor> jiltdil which URL are you trying to get to?
[19:06] <TanKCR> schnuffle: ATT is really crappy, unfortunately its a work connection
[19:06] <jiltdil> kilkor: simply any one
[19:06] <toby> hello all
[19:06] <filiptc_> erUSUL: E: could not lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: resource temporarily not available)
[19:07] <jiltdil> kilkor:but when i pings it pings
[19:07] <schnuffle> TanKCR: have you the option to create a VPN tunnel?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Rootpt: central storage of files and backup. Some apps connect to it and you can stream the media files (for example)
[19:07] <nishant> Does anyone use Cheese ? How does it work ?
[19:07] <usr13> elad``: There are only a few applications that you may run into that are not 64bit, bit it may become a problem for you.  So, again, It just depends on what you want to do with your Ubuntu system.
[19:07] <erUSUL> filiptc_: are you running any other apt front end?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[19:07] <toby> i guess i need to go from wine 1.2.2 to wine 1.3.15  i ran the sudo aptget command found on the wine website to no avail also the download link seems to be dead any help?
[19:07] <schnuffle> nishant: isn't it obvious how it works?
[19:07] <filiptc_> erUSUL: nope
[19:07] <TanKCR> schnuffle: I suppose I could, but where to?
[19:07] <nishant> schnuffle, sorry I mean does it work seamlessly for you ? Recording I mean
[19:08] <erUSUL> filiptc_: do what ActionParsnip said
[19:08] <lucian> any suggestions on a 13" laptop with very good battery life running Ubuntu? i couldn't really find a definite one
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> toby: did you add the ppa?
[19:08] <Silent93> hi, I can't get my live cd to boot, the cd is fine (I've used it countless times) when i try to boot it shows the loading screen with the ubuntu logo and four dots then eventually just shows a greenish stripy mush on screen and I can't drop into a shell using control alt F1, ideas?
[19:08] <toby> ppa?
[19:08] <erUSUL> toby: enable wine ppa and install wine1.3
[19:08] <nishant> lucian, suggestions for what?
[19:08] <toby> sorry uber noob here
[19:08] <lucian> nishant: brands, models
[19:08] <toby> idk what ppa is
[19:08] <lucian> nishant: i know it's not entirely on-topic
[19:08] <erUSUL> !ppa | toby
[19:08] <schnuffle> TanKCR: if you have a machine in the net use openvpn to create a tunnel and connect to IRC through that tunnel
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> v0lksman: you dutch?
[19:09] <kilkor> jiltdil: try to use curl from terminal with the same URL and see if you get any response.  If you get a response then there is some issue with your browser
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: what video chip (i bet nvidia)
[19:09] <filiptc_> erUSUL: you mean !aptfix
[19:09] <erUSUL> filiptc_: yes... run  ┬½ ┬½ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo
[19:09] <erUSUL>                 dpkg --configure -a ┬╗
[19:09] <v0lksman> MonkeyDust, nope
[19:09] <toby> ok how do i use this?
[19:09] <Logan_> !ot | lucian
[19:09] <elad-> usr13: Isn't it done under the hood of the release?
[19:09] <Silent93> ActionParsnip: How'd you guess :p
[19:09] <lucian> Logan_: i see
[19:09] <TanKCR> schnuffle: tonight I could set up a home machine to provide that, thanks for the idea
[19:09] <nishant> lucian, netbooks + ubuntu and laptop + ubuntu .... just check out ubuntu supported manufactures
[19:10] <nishant> google for those 2 I mean
[19:10] <lucian> nishant: the list is crappy
[19:10] <Silent93> ActionParsnip: though I'm using the same chip on this pc and ive never had issues
[19:10] <toby> is ppa like ubnuntu software assistant or like synaptic?
[19:10] <filiptc_> erUSUL: dpkg is using it
[19:10] <schnuffle> I did it once when IRC ports where blocke and it worked perfect
[19:10] <erUSUL> toby: they are mini repositories
[19:10] <nishant> ask in ubuntu-offtopic lucian  , there you get better help
[19:10] <filiptc_> erUSUL: should i kill it
[19:11] <filiptc_> ?
[19:11] <jiltdil> kilkor:thanx  but how to open web with curl
[19:11] <erUSUL> toby: why do not read the links ubottu send you ?
[19:11] <usr13> elad-: What?
[19:11] <erUSUL> filiptc_: the command should have done it
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: i don't care. What video chip please?
[19:11] <toby> sorry i missed that link
[19:11] <filiptc_> erUSUL: it ends with y/N
[19:12] <erUSUL> filiptc_: paste the output in a pastebin.
[19:12] <Silent93> ActionParsnip: Geforce7300 I think
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Toby: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb   use the: sudo add-apt-repository   based section. Way easier
[19:12] <filiptc_> erUSUL: never mind, I killed the process and the install continues
[19:12] <erUSUL> !yay
[19:13] <filiptc_> erUSUL, ActionParsnip: thanks guys!!!
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: ok then add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1   should be ok
[19:13] <kilkor> jiltdil curl requests the web page.  It will take the web servers response of html/code and feed it into your terminal.  We're simply using it as a troubleshooting tool.  If you type curl www.domain.com and get a response with a bunch of HTML tags then we know that your computer is able to access web content and you may just need to fix your browser
[19:13] <erUSUL> no problem filiptc_
[19:13] <filiptc_> (crossing my fingers now)
[19:15] <toby> actionpartnership: once i use sudo to get the PPA where do i find it?
[19:15] <erUSUL> toby: in
[19:15] <toby> if only i could type ur name :P
[19:15] <jiltdil> kilkor:yes when i type in terminal  curl www.google.com it shows some htmal tags. so how to fixd  it?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: install as normal. You may need to add it to your first boot to get a desktop. Updates will probably fix it
[19:15] <erUSUL> in Aplications>Ubuntu software center toby
[19:15] <erUSUL> !tab | toby
[19:16] <erUSUL> toby: so just act<tab> ;P
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Toby: if you added it right you will see wine 1.3 in software centre
[19:17] <kilkor> jiltdil: I'm not the best with ubuntu yet.  I may recommend just uninstalling and re-installing your browser package.  There may be a more elegant way of fixing things though and I'm just too new to this
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Toby: TAB is used a LOT in Linux ;-)
[19:17] <usr13> el2ro_: Didn't understand your question.  Were you asking what the process is for building a multilib system?
[19:17] <usr13> el2ro_: Sorry, wrong nic
[19:18] <jiltdil> kilkor:ok no problem thanx atleast u tell ne about curl new thing to me
[19:18] <toby> if i hit tab nothing happends....i considered myself great with computers before diving into linux... god help me
[19:19] <marlow59> it is true that the next Ubuntu wont rely on GNOME 3 ?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Toby: you were probably just good with windows, there is a difference ;-)
[19:19] <usr13> toby: Learn to crawl b4 learning to walk
[19:19] <red2kic> toby: Type "red" then TAB.
[19:19] <marlow59> it is true that the next Ubuntu wont rely on GNOME 3 ?
[19:19] <red2kic> toby: "red" then few TABS to get me. :o
[19:19] <schnuffle> toby: as long te letters you entered are not unique to a name you get a list with hitting tab 2times
[19:19] <marlow59> it is true that the next Ubuntu wont rely on GNOME 3 ?
[19:19] <Silent93> marlow59: yeah, its uses unity
[19:19] <Silent93> ActionParsnip: thats given me a command line now, it did flash the screen with pages
[19:20] <erUSUL> toby: you have to type the first few letters of the nick you want to autocomplete
[19:20] <Silent93> *pages of text
[19:20] <marlow59> and why GNOME 3 is developped?
[19:20] <Silent93> too fast to read though
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> marlow59: ask in #ubuntu+1 that is where natty is discussdd
[19:20] <toby> red2kic: got it
[19:20] <erUSUL> marlow59: ubuntu is not the only distro of linux. many other may want to use it.
[19:20] <red2kic> toby: Great. That's how people talk. Your nickname is in the conversation, it'll he hilighted.
[19:20] <Silent93> marlow59: gnome isn't anything to do with ubuntu development
[19:20] <[TK]D-Fender> marlow59: Because Someone thought "we should make Gnome 2 better"
[19:21] <toby> seems to only work with u
[19:21] <red2kic> toby: No. Because I'm using 'toby' in my line -- so your client recognize it and hilight it.
[19:21] <[TK]D-Fender> toby: They are talking about IRC autocomplete which almost all clients support.  This isn't a "linux" thing at all
[19:21] <schnuffle> toby: type schn and hit tab
[19:21] <marlow59> Haha, yeah, but Ubuntu remains the most widespread distribution using GNOME
[19:21] <usr13> marlow59: There is also kubuntu (if you prefer KDE)
[19:21] <toby> ok scnh works
[19:21] <red2kic> He must be new to linux -- and IRC. :)
[19:22] <toby> but like erusul
[19:22] <[TK]D-Fender> tobAnd if it doesn't do it, then either your partial nick isn't enough to start getting matches, you aren't doing it right, or your client could suck.
[19:22] <toby> xchat....
[19:22] <toby> is xchat bad?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: or try also adding the option: nomodeset    and remove: quiet splash
[19:22] <erUSUL> toby: no
[19:22] <red2kic> toby: No. XChat = Decent.   XChat-Gnome = Bad.
[19:22] <[TK]D-Fender> marlow59: And there is a difference between "Gnome" and "Gnome Shell"
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Toby: xchat is fine
[19:22] <bfvtech> if any one has a problem with there mouse not working on ubuntu 10.10 try to disable the internal pointing device in bios to see if that works
[19:23] <[TK]D-Fender> marlow59: Anyway there are dozens of articles you could Google up that will explain why Ubuntu decided to switch to Unity as their default shell in 11.04
[19:23] <marlow59> [TK]D-Fender: Gnom & Gnom shell? What's the diff?
[19:23] <toby> ActionParsnip: ok so back to orginal probelm i ran the sudo command and check in my software center i see wine but it says i alreacdy have it installed i go to about and still have version 1.2.2
[19:24] <cinnabarisland12> hello, I got an RT3090BC4 wifi/bluetooth chip and don't know how to get it running in maverick, any help?
[19:24] <[TK]D-Fender> marlow59: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Shell
[19:24] <marlow59> thanks ;)
[19:24] <[TK]D-Fender> marlow59: It would be nice if you showed that you even try looking at all for yourself...
[19:24] <joeb_> anyone got itunes working with ubuntu via wine
[19:24] <Jonii> Hey, is there any way to make right-click menu appear only after you _release_ the right mouse button?
[19:25] <v0lksman> anyone know a CLI switch to change mic inputs?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Toby: close software centre then run this:
[19:25] <red2kic> v0lksman: Try alsamixer. It may have to do with it.
[19:25] <ryuguns1> hi
[19:25] <drc> toby: did you visit http://www.winehq.org/download/deb ?
[19:26] <ryuguns1> suo?
[19:26] <v0lksman> red2kic, looking for a way to change the inputs on the fly via a script
[19:26] <Jonii> It's ridiculous that the menu appears as soon as you click it, and by releasing the button, Ubuntu thinks you have clicked somewhere, and so you randomly select the first menu item
[19:26] <toby> drc: yes
[19:26] <cinnabarisland12> hello, I got an RT3090BC4 wifi/bluetooth chip and don't know how to get it running in maverick, any help for a newbie?
[19:26] <Jonii> Unless you manouver around it by holding the button down after clicking right button down, and then release it on "safe" area
[19:26] <red2kic> v0lksman: Ah. You should ask in alsa and/or pulseaudio channel.
[19:27] <toby> drc:  i ran the sudo commands they have on there just not sure where to go from there. so far the software center already says have wine but i need the newer wine then i have
[19:27] <v0lksman> red2kic, yeah..pulse is pretty quiet...will check alsa but I think its a pulse thing
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Toby: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[19:27] <usr13> v0lksman: alsamixer
[19:28] <Jonii> So, anyone knows?
[19:28] <cinnabarisland12> hello, I got an RT3090BC4 wifi/bluetooth chip and don't know how to get it running in maverick, any help for a noob?
[19:28] <Jonii> Is this problem only in Gnome? Does KDE work better?
[19:28] <v0lksman> usr13, alsamixer doesn't let me set a device by command does it?  I don't see anything about it in the man page...
[19:28] <toby> any good books anyone can recommend to bring me to the "crawl stage" with ubuntu?
[19:28] <phonex01> hello need help here !
[19:29] <usr13> v0lksman: Sorry
[19:29] <phonex01> im using ubuntu 10.10 and virtualbox so i wanna add a com port to my virtual machine
[19:29] <red2kic> Jonii: I can't recreate this problem?
[19:29] <v0lksman> usr13, no worries...I appreciate the attempt.. .:)
[19:29] <cinnabarisland12> phonex01: same old
[19:29] <joeb_> hi all apt-cache policy what does it actually do .. just shows info on it ? does it help me see anything or what ?
[19:29] <phonex01> i use USB serial converter and linux see it as ttyUSB4
[19:29] <usr13> Jonii: Not sure what you are asking....?
[19:30] <phonex01> what do you mean by same old !
[19:30] <jrib> joeb_: shows info, yes
[19:30] <toby> red2kic: the ; in the command that actionparsnip gave me mean run this command next?
[19:30] <joeb_> jrib- what does it have to do with me installin a package ? nothing im assuming ?
[19:30] <cinnabarisland12> @phonex01 waiting for help is what i mean by same old lol
[19:30] <red2kic> toby: Well, yes. Also, it mean next command. You could paste them all in one line.
[19:31] <Jonii> usr13, i press right mouse button, and a menu appear, right?
[19:31] <toby> red2kic: i did paste them all in one line but it could be useful to know why that was there but i got it now
[19:31] <Jonii> And, it appears *BEFORE* I release the right mouse button, right?
[19:31] <sumit> how to find my version on ubuntu
[19:31] <schnuffle> cinnabarisland12: there is a module for your chipset: https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090
[19:31] <sumit> ?
[19:31] <red2kic> toby: CommandOne ; CommandTwo -- Both commands will run regardless.
[19:31] <sumit> i mean version of
[19:32] <red2kic> toby: CommandOne && CommandTwo -- Second command will run if first command ended properly.
[19:32] <cinnabarisland12> schnuffle: that'll get my wifi and bluetooth combo working?
[19:32] <joeb_> red2kic- or ; && and ; are the same thing right ?
[19:32] <toby> red2kic,  but in that instance command one will run first?
[19:32] <schnuffle> cinnabarisland12: it should, yes
[19:32] <sumit> how to find which port of network r open
[19:32] <sumit> ?
[19:32] <Jonii> red2kic: click right mouse button, and keep it pressed. Menu opens _before_ you release the button, right?
[19:32] <v0lksman> sumit, netstat -tapn
[19:33] <cinnabarisland12> schnuffle: alright thanks :)
[19:33] <red2kic> joeb_: No, not really. Supposedly the first command failed, you're going to run the second command. That's ;
[19:33] <v0lksman> or remove the t if you don't only want to see tcp
[19:33] <red2kic> joeb_: If first command finished without any hiccups, then it'll run second command.
[19:33] <red2kic> That's &&
[19:33] <usr13> Jonii: If unclicking the mouse button, actually slects something for you, I think there is a problem with your system, (and not sure if it is hardware or software), but something's wrong.  I do not think that is normal for Gnome OR KDE..
[19:33] <sumit> ty
[19:33] <joeb_> so ; runs it regardless eh red2kic ?
[19:33] <jiltdil> i open termianl -->edit-->profile preference--->title and command      and i tick mark the run a custom command instead of my shell and write "a"  in custom command as m experminenting what happens.but now after this when i open terminal it flashes and vanishes.how to fix this
[19:33] <v0lksman> usr13, it is normal
[19:34] <red2kic> joeb_: Yes.
[19:34] <usr13> Jonii: but it is in fact normal, of the context menu to appear when you hit the right mouse button, (and before un-clicking it).
[19:34] <usr13> *if
[19:34] <usr13> not of
[19:35] <sumit> how how can i know which port is transfering information
[19:35] <Yadira> Hi Guys
[19:35] <yeahyeahyeah> hi Yadira
[19:35] <red2kic> joeb_: Try this.
[19:35] <usr13> sumit: From what service or application?
[19:35] <red2kic> joeb_: mkdir ~/Ubuntu/Whale ; rm ~/Ubuntu/Whale
[19:35] <v0lksman> sumit, lsof|grep <port number> might work...otherwise look at tcpdump
[19:35] <red2kic> joeb_: mkdir ~/Ubuntu/Whale && rm ~/Ubuntu/Whale
[19:36] <usr13> sumit: Basically, by knowing which port the application or service is set to transmit and receive through.
[19:36] <red2kic> joeb_: You get less mistake on second command because it can'
[19:36] <jiltdil> any idea how to fix my problem?
[19:36] <Canid> Hello... can anyone help me set up my printer to do higher resolution?
[19:36] <sumit> ty
[19:36] <red2kic> joeb_: It can't create a directory so it didn't run the "remove dir" command.
[19:36] <v0lksman> uhg...one step away from perfection...just need to tell pulse/alsa to use a different mic/input on the fly....anyone?
[19:36] <tensorpudding> sumit: netstat shows open ports
[19:36] <Canid> I can't get it to print better than 1200 dpi
[19:36] <tensorpudding> sumit: and what they're connected to
[19:36] <sumit> and pls tell me how can i find my ubuntu version
[19:36] <Yadira> i upgrade from 9.4 to 10.10 LTS and the featur i want the most i dont have it,,is the rythmbox controls on volume icon in panel,,it shows on notification area
[19:36] <tensorpudding> sumit: cat /etc/lsb-release
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Canid:  check the info for it at the cups web site or the linuxprinting.org site. perhaps teh driver has limitations.
[19:37] <Canid> I've got the correct driver
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Canid:  also check the cups web interface. it might let you do some other settings.
[19:37] <Canid> I'll look, hang on
[19:37] <jiltdil> sumit:lsb_release -a
[19:37]  * Dr_Willis is going to bed.. and is not going to hang on. :)
[19:37] <usr13> Yadira: I hate to tell you, but 10.10 is not LTS.
[19:37] <jiltdil> Dr_willis:i open termianl -->edit-->profile preference--->title and command      and i tick mark the run a custom command instead of my shell and write "a"  in custom command as m experminenting what happens.but now after this when i open terminal it flashes and vanishes.how to fix this
 usr13, it is normal
[19:37] <red2kic> Jonii: The menu open because you hold right-click then scroll down to a line -- and release?
[19:37] <igyess> Has anyone yet found a solution to usb mouse that is frezing?
[19:38] <Jonii> usr13: you can't select menu item by pressing right button, hovering the mouse over the menu item you want to select, and releasing it?
[19:38] <pixel4e> can somebody look at this. I've been having this issue since 10.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/26718/getting-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-when-installing-1
[19:38] <sumit> i m new
[19:38] <sumit> i wana learn all commands
[19:38] <sumit> of linux
[19:38] <v0lksman> jiltdil, ?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  the terminal app takes command line arguments to what profile to use.. tell it to use a differnt one. or delete the gnome-terminal settings dirs/files to reset it back to defaults.
[19:38] <jiltdil> sumit: go to terminal and hit tab twice
[19:38] <red2kic> sumit: Impossible. You can't remember them all. You will learn what you find it useful. :)
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> !terminal | sumit
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> sumit:  get reading then...
[19:39] <Yadira> 10.4 i mean,but i steel have the issue regardles of OS
[19:39] <jiltdil> volksman:sorry by mistake
[19:39] <chammua> how to open file .exe extension not file setup? pls !
[19:39] <usr13> Jonii: No, you have to select with left mouse button.  (Unless you have the bottons reversed - as in having set up for left-handed mouse).
[19:39] <Yadira> how can i install the rythmbox controls into volume icon
[19:39] <Canid> Dr_Willis under Printer Properties, I can get to Other options (advanced)... and there is a printer resolution tag, but it is set at (unknown IPP tag) and I don't know what format it will accept to change it. Every time I've tried, it goes back to (unknown IPP tag) when I press apply
[19:39] <Yadira> like the default ubuntu 10.4 LTS
[19:39] <toby> red2kic: seems like u have them all memerized lol
[19:39] <jiltdil> Dr_Willis; i don't understand how to do this plz help
[19:40] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: gparted rocks - thanks again
[19:40] <sumit> i wana be a good hacker
[19:40] <red2kic> toby: Nope! I refer to manual page and --help when I need to.
[19:40] <sumit> so i install ubuntu
[19:40] <sumit> on my pc
[19:40] <chammua> how to open file .exe extension not file setup? pls !
[19:40] <sumit> as i find from many books that hacking is very easy in linux
[19:40] <Dcite> sumit: Hacker and ubuntu usually don't appear in the same line ^_^ ...
[19:40] <chammua> i can't not open by wine ...
[19:40] <Yadira> with wine
[19:41] <red2kic> chammua: cabextract
[19:41] <usr13> chammua: .exe files are for MS Windows, (unless you use wine)
[19:41] <marlow59> I have the 10.10 live cd, how can I upgrade without loosing my data?
[19:41] <pixel4e> can somebody look at this. I've been having this issue since 10.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/26718/getting-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-when-installing-1
[19:41] <sumit> ankit fadia
[19:41] <sumit> he is a good hacker
[19:41] <sumit> no 1 hacker of india
[19:41] <Dcite> marlow59: Are you already using ubuntu? (A previous version)
[19:41] <Yadira> marlow59: ) i did an upgrade to system,,be very carefull
[19:41] <toby> the reason i went to linux and dumped windows completely it forces me to learn and adapt....i find myself google searching something every 5 mins lol
[19:41] <Jonii> usr13: so, you did it exactly like this: <press right mouse button> -> <menu appears> -> <keep right mouse button pressed> -> <hover mouse above some selectable menu item> -> <release right mouse button for the first time>
[19:42] <usr13> Dcite: Why not?
[19:42] <Yadira> marlow59: ) i dont have all features,,u will miss something
[19:42] <ginnnn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jekQMQwmHN8&playnext=1&list=PL833845625D39E84F
[19:42] <Jonii> And after that, selectable menu item didn't act like you had left-clicked it?
[19:42] <marlow59> yeah, on Lucid now
[19:42] <marlow59> Dcite:  I'm on Lucid now
[19:42] <Dcite> usr13: I would say ubuntu is friendly, but the blunt of the power is in command line flexibility.
[19:42] <usr13> Jonii: No, press and release right mouse button. Then select with Left button.
[19:42] <Jonii> But, yeah, on my 10.4, right-clicking menu items works just as well as left-clicking them
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> jiltdil:  alt-f2, run 'xterm' then try 'gnome-terminal --help'
[19:43] <Yadira> marlow59: ) im on 10.4 LTS but it can happend
[19:43] <Dcite> marlow59: You should be able to configure update manager to show new releases, not just LTS, it should offer to do the upgrade for you without a CD..
[19:43] <chammua> ??? i don't understand...
[19:43] <red2kic> toby: Windows have far easier learning curve. Open a terminal. Run "man firefox" (blank) or "firefox --help" to see options. That's it for every package.
[19:43] <usr13> Dcite: That is fair to say.
[19:43] <Jonii> usr13: so, did you try it that way?
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> Night all..
[19:43] <Canid> I can't find the info for my driver
[19:43] <igyess> jhelp my mouse keeps stopping!!
[19:43] <marlow59> Dcite: yes, but live cd is more... Safe. No?
[19:43] <Jonii> Like, are menu items not supposed to be clickable using right mouse button?
[19:44] <Canid> Does anyone know how to set up higher resolution printing on linux?
[19:44] <usr13> Dcite: But OpenSource software is where the real power is, and it is not all CLI by any means.
[19:44] <Dcite> marlow59: Honestly.. I never tried a CD style upgrade, it will likely be faster than downloading if you take such a route.
[19:44] <Yadira> marlow59: ) well have u get any other answer other than mine
[19:44] <Canid> The settings seem to be capped at 1200 dpi
[19:44] <Jonii> If that's so, how do I make my Ubuntu not think right-clicking menu items means I left-clicked them?
[19:45] <Dcite> usr13: Yes the true power is in the software, though most tools with a few exceptions start from the CLI and later evolve into a gui.
[19:45] <Canid> I've got an HP Photosmart Premium C310a ...I installed the correct driver for it
[19:45] <usr13> Jonii: The left and right buttons have different function.
[19:45] <Yadira> Dcite: ) i did that and im missing features,i upgrade from 9.4 to 10.4 LTS
[19:45] <Canid> What I've read says it's supposed to be fully compatible
[19:45] <Canid> But I can't get a high res print
[19:45] <Jonii> usr13: so when you click menu item using right mouse button, nothing happens?
[19:46] <Dcite> Yadira: I recall something like that happening.. nothing google/ selectie package installs won't fix
[19:46] <usr13> Jonii: Some menu items have different options when right button is clicked.
[19:46] <Jonii> usr13: so the problem is present?
[19:46] <Jonii> How do I make the menu open _after I release right mouse button_?
[19:46] <usr13> Jonii: Sometimes, yes, when a menu option is right clicked, nothing will happen.  Just depends on where / what the menu item is.
[19:46] <Yadira> Dcite: ) what specific package im looking for ?   is the rythmbox controls
[19:47] <Jonii> Not right after I click it?
[19:47] <cube1> hey guys, my ASUS EEE 1000HE gets stuck randomly when using it. it just freezes up and nothing works anymore. any ideas? need any command outputs?
[19:47] <Jonii> After that one flaw is fixed, my Ubuntu installation would finally work about as well as my Windows
[19:47] <Dcite> Yadira: Err... consider looking in synaptic for anything with the word rythm? (Short on time right now)
[19:47] <red2kic> Jonii: Make a video clip of it. You may be the only one with this problem. (I don't see any problem with my left/right click).
[19:48] <usr13> Jonii: You just have to experiment to see what really happens and does  not happen when clicking on various menus.
[19:48] <thotypous> Hi. Launchpad didn't sign the packages I submitted to my PPA. The Release.gpg file wasn't generated: http://ppa.launchpad.net/paulo-matias/lua/ubuntu/dists/maverick. What should I do? Bump ppa1 to ppa2 and resubmit using dput? Or is there a better way to force a rebuild?
[19:48] <chammua> pls...help me open file .exe extension at link http://www.mediafire.com/?8r9xcziqe105qvc   :) thanks
[19:48] <usr13> Jonii: Are you sure you've not set your mouse up as left-handed?
[19:49] <cube1> hey guys, my ASUS EEE 1000HE gets stuck randomly when using it. it just freezes up and nothing works anymore. any ideas? need any command outputs? i dont seem to have an xorg.conf, btw
[19:49] <Jonii> usr13: right-mouse button opens the menu. Left mouse button does not
[19:49] <schnuffle> cube1: overheating?
[19:49] <usr13> chammua: First, tell us what type if file it is.  i.e.  file  filename.exe
[19:50] <brontosaurusrex> cube1, not having xorg.conf is default in 10.10
[19:50] <usr13> Jonii: Are you sure you've not set your mouse up as left-handed?
[19:50] <cube1> schnuffle: possibly, but how can i check? and prevent?
[19:50] <Jonii> usr13: not, but my mouse obviously acts like it was right-handed mouse, isn't that enough?
[19:50] <pixel4e> can somebody look at this. I've been having this issue since 10.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/26718/getting-unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system-when-installing-1
[19:51] <chammua> it's a name QlinkClient.exe :|
[19:51] <usr13> Jonii: Well, I don't know.  You tell me.
[19:51] <joeb_> red2kic- ok coo thanks
[19:52] <Jonii> usr13: well, if I could disable right-clicking from selecting things, that would work too, but I'd say ideal would be if releasing didn't select things, or if menu didn't open until after I released the button
[19:52] <Jonii> So, is any of these possible?
[19:52] <Jonii> Or, does KDE work better?
[19:53] <splnet> How do install the source for a specific package?
[19:53] <usr13> Jonii: System -> Preferences -> Mouse
[19:53] <cube1> schnuffle: possibly, but how can i check? and prevent?
[19:53] <joeb_> splnet- sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[19:53] <schnuffle> cube1:  use sensors to see temperature
[19:53] <Jonii> usr13: there doesn't seem to be anything there
[19:53] <red2kic> !lnw
[19:54] <red2kic> Jonii: Just letting you know. :)
[19:54] <joeb_> or did i say that wron
[19:54] <schnuffle> !sensors | cube1
[19:54] <Jonii> I can make my mouse left-handed, but it wouldn't help me at all
[19:54] <joeb_> s/wron/wrong
[19:54] <usr13> Jonii: There doesn't seem to be anything WHERE ?
[19:54] <ricenut> Hi guys, do you know how to start boot Ubuntus 10 CD in rescue mode? Any special key?
[19:55] <usr13> chammua: file QuickClient.exe
[19:55] <cube1> schnuffle: yee, its always around 50┬░, while 85┬░ is the critical. laptop doesnt feel even warm either.
[19:55] <Jonii> red2kic: I'd say it's still fair that I can open a menu using right mouse button without it all the time selecting random menu items due to bad mouse interface design? :p
[19:55] <red2kic> Jonii: You using some kind of special mouse? Seems like some people have it.
[19:55] <chammua> yes <user13>
[19:55] <splnet> joeb_: ok  that didn't install the source but some other packages like quilt, etc
[19:55] <Laurenceb> ImportError: No module named kiva_graphics_context
[19:55] <Jonii> red2kic: acer standard mouse
[19:55] <Laurenceb> ^any idea what package im missing?
[19:55] <joeb_>  --only source ?
[19:55] <dotlegend> what are the new man pages?
[19:56] <dotlegend> instead of man it is something else i forget
[19:56] <pixel4e> I'm getting a busybox error when I try to install 10.10
[19:56] <joeb_> splnet- dunno .. good question .. im a n00b to ubuntu also
[19:56] <red2kic> Jonii: When I right-click, the menu appear. It get highlighted only when I'm hovering over it. Left or right-click will invoke the said line. That's it.
[19:56] <livingdaylight> haro
[19:56] <usr13> Jonii: System -> Preferences -> Mouse  (For now, use the right button as if it were the left one)
[19:56] <pixel4e> Can somebody please help?
[19:57] <usr13> chammua: file QuickClient.exe   # Tell us what is says.
[19:57] <usr13> chammua: Open a terminal.  cd to where the file is.  Type command:   file QuickClient.exe   # Tell us what is says.
[19:57] <red2kic> Jonii: Check Mouse preferences. Is anything under Accessibility tab enabled?
[19:57] <chammua> yes, wait for minut├®s
[19:57] <Jonii> red2kic: nope
[19:58] <Jonii> red2kic: the problem is that _releasing_ after opening the menu by right-clicking is enough to select menu item
[19:58] <dajhorn> pixel4e: Enable the "USB Legacy Emulation" option in the BIOS setup program if it exists.
[19:59] <znero> hello i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and i want to setup a music studio. i almost got everything working but i now have a problem with a library named 'tuxguitar-jack' if i install that it removes jack2 and insists on running jack1. how do i make this work with jack2 ?
 : chammua: First, tell us what type if file it is.  i.e.  file  filename.exe
[19:59] <Jonii> That means, if I open the menu by clicking right button, I automatically select the closest menu item, _UNLESS_ I happen to move the mouse a bit away from the menu before releasing
[19:59] <saintbasil> Problem: Plugging in external HDDs and MP3 players in USB gives an error mounting, but printer works fine through USB. What is the problem?
[19:59] <znero> can i somehow make it dependent on jack2 instead of 1 ?
[19:59] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: Got your partition nicely resized?
 QlinkClient.exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit Mono/.Net assembly
[19:59] <pixel4e> dajhorn I don't have that option in bios.
[19:59] <Jonii> That is obviously stupid.   Something else?
[20:00] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: Yep. Worked like a charm - took more time to download the iso than to do the work L:)
[20:00] <livingdaylight> guys, I launched VB and was told that there was an update to v4. but when I tried to install said .deb file i got error message of conflict? anyone?
 QlinkClient.exe: PE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit Mono/.Net assembly
[20:00] <livingdaylight> *VB = virtual box
[20:00] <usr13> chammua: wine QlinkClient.exe
 chammua@chammua-laptop:~/Downloads/qlink_client$ wine QlinkClient.exe fixme:gdi:get_default_fonts unhandled charset 0x000000a3 - use ANSI_CHARSET for default stock objects fixme:gdi:get_default_fonts unhandled charset 0x000000a3 - use ANSI_CHARSET for default stock objects wine: Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> Jonii, not true, you can rmb, select and release and it runs
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> Jonii, like good old amiga
[20:01] <usr13> chammua: There is your answer
[20:01] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: Glad it worked clean for you
[20:01] <chammua> i listening...
[20:01] <usr13> chammua: There is your answer:  "Install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[20:01] <pixel4e> dajhorn: I've tried everything Universal USB installer, unetbootin, imagewriter
[20:01] <red2kic> Jonii: I think it's more of your preferences? Can't you click on desktop to make it go away?
[20:01] <chammua> monodevelop??? really?
[20:01] <dajhorn> pixel4e: Do you know how to start syslinux in safe mode?  Or downgrade the boot loader?
[20:02] <chammua> user13...
[20:02] <Jonii> brontosaurusrex: that works as long as I don't accidentally release the button, and I am willing to concentrate on keeping that stupid button pressed as long as I contemplate what menu item I wanna choose
[20:02] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: thanks again - gparted is now a perm part of the tool box :)
[20:02] <pixel4e> dajhorn: no but I'm willing to learn. is there a guide?
[20:02] <saintbasil> why does Ubuntu update the kernel so much?
[20:02] <Jonii> The point is, that is obviously wasted effort, and I could override this simply by fixing the right-mouse button
[20:02] <chammua> where can i find it ? pls
[20:03] <brontosaurusrex> Jonii, if you rmb click and release then the menu should stay up as well, and you can take your time selecting without holding any buttons...
[20:03] <Jonii> Making it impossible to select stuff by right- or middle mouse buttons would work too
[20:03] <red2kic> saintbasil: http://kernel.org/ -- That have nothing to do with Ubuntu. There are new hardwares released all times.
[20:03] <dajhorn> pixel4e:  Not really, because few people ever need to do it.  Details are in the man pages at syslinux.zytor.com.   It will be quicker to a minimal install of the previous release that is compatible, and then upgrade to Maverick.
[20:03] <Jonii> brontosaurusrex: only if I remember to release the button away from the menu, which means I gotta consciously move the mouse a bit before releasing
[20:03] <dajhorn> pixel4e: Try your luck with a BIOS upgrade if you have time.
[20:03] <usr13> chammua: So what is  QuickClient.exe   for anyway?  (What is it SUPPOSED to do.)
[20:04] <red2kic> !kernel | saintbasil
[20:04] <Odaym> hey
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> Jonii, doesnt behave like that here
[20:04] <Odaym> i'm on a virtual machine
[20:04] <[TK]D-Fender> Zed`: I suspect you downloaded the separate ISo for it.. but you could ahve done it off a liceCD Ubuntu disc as well
[20:04] <Odaym> how do i know what the OS is?
[20:04] <[TK]D-Fender> live*
[20:04] <Odaym> i used to know this command
[20:04] <inside-out-bunny> Odaym: you mean distro?
[20:04] <Odaym> yes
[20:04] <dajhorn> Odaym: Try lsb_release -a
[20:05] <Odaym> alright thank you
[20:05] <Odaym> but there was another one, which can show the kernel, the kernel version , etc...
[20:05] <Jonii> Well, anyway, I'd appreciate it if I could change how mouse buttons function. Or if I could change how the menu appears
[20:05] <yeahyeahyeah> where are drivers located? I'd like to copy them over to create a backup
[20:05] <usr13> chammua: What is   QuickClient.exe   and where did you get it?
[20:05] <dajhorn> Odaym:  uname -a
[20:05] <red2kic> Jonii: When I right-click-hold, the menu came up. I go away and release it. It disappear. It's not same for you?
[20:05] <runicfox> Odaym, try uname -a
[20:05] <Odaym> unameeeee
[20:05] <Odaym> ok ok
[20:05] <Odaym> thanks
[20:05] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: most are built into the kernel
[20:05] <Jacruth> Hi guys. I have installed a persistent live Ubuntu in my usb. Is there any way to skip the choose between "Live" and "Install" Ubuntu when I boot the pendrive?
[20:05] <pixel4e> dajhorn: the problem with the bios is that it is a shitty vaio P and there haven't been any updates since the seventies. I'll give it a whirl. Is there any way to install alternate without an ethernet port?
[20:06] <Jonii> red2kic: oh, it is
[20:06] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, aren't they modules?
[20:06] <chammua> oh`, qlinkclient.exe is project type capcha at freelancer...
[20:06] <Jonii> Anyway, the point is, that functionality is stupid, and it could be made 20x more intuitive by fixing any of the multiple things I listed, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to have any tools to do that fixing
[20:06] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: yeah, they can be (and usually are) compiled as modules-- but they are distributed with the kernel in most cases
[20:06] <Jonii> So how to fix that manually?
[20:06] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: what drivers did you want to back up?
[20:06] <Jacruth> could you give my any clue?
[20:06] <chammua> this ├Łs my work :)
[20:07] <dajhorn> pixel4e:   The alternate.iso should run without and ethernet connection.
[20:07] <usr13> chammua: What?  What is it supposed to do?
[20:07] <accel> why is apt-get install NOT multi threaded?
[20:07] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, basically the ones I currently have on my Ubuntu install of 10.04
[20:07] <accel> I want all 32 CPUS to be busy installing packages for me
[20:07] <pixel4e> dajhorn: at some point it wants to dounload packages and that's the only option.
[20:07] <Odaym> i686 means it's a 32 bit machine?
[20:07] <karla> accel: nobody implemented it yet?
[20:07] <mehdi_> what cause this error? Cannot find X11/extensions/shape.h. Make sure your CFLAGS environment variable contains include lines for the location of this file
[20:07] <pixel4e> I could be wrong but I couldn't find a way to bypass it.
[20:07] <erUSUL> accel: jaja! the task is i/o bound anyway. you 32 cpu threath will all be spinning waiting for the disk subsystem
[20:08] <dajhorn> pixel4e: When it errors-out, you can 'exit' and go back to the list of installation steps.
[20:08] <dajhorn> pixel4e: Or maybe "back".   I don't remember.
[20:08] <chammua> yes, I type image capcha to earn extra money
[20:08] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: there's no need to do that.  unless you have proprietary drivers for weird devices, all future kernels will support what it supports today
[20:08] <inside-out-bunny> for the most part
[20:08] <calc> anyone know how to select which monitor on a multihead setup the top and bottom menus appears on?
[20:08] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, "for the most part", I remember I had to download a driver when I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04
[20:08] <karla> accel: obviously you'd need to split the package installations by dependency, even then the real performance bottleneck would be most likely the storage not the CPUs
[20:09] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: you mean nvidia/graphic card drivers?
[20:09] <pixel4e> dajhorn: I'll try it again. I might have to resort to upgrade from 9.10
[20:09] <calc> i have a good monitor hooked up to displayport and an older monitor on vga, and its defaulting to setting the menus on the old vga monitor :-\
[20:09] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, a wifi driver
[20:09] <Odaym> when i see "i686" in "uname -a", it means that my machine is 64 bit or the OS is 64 bit?
[20:09] <dajhorn> pixel4e: a USB floppy drive is usually compatible with an old BIOS.  You could do something fancy like starting GRUB from a floppy and chaining the USB drive.
[20:10] <dajhorn> pixel4e: But that is more learning.
[20:10] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: in that case what you'll need is the driver source code, not the compiled modules.  The compiled modules will almost certainly not work with other kernels
[20:10] <erUSUL> Odaym: it means the OS is *32* bits
[20:10] <Odaym> ah ok ok
[20:10] <router> can someone please help me create a symbollic link to the java plugin please?
[20:10] <inside-out-bunny> Odaym: i686 is 32
[20:10] <karla> Odaym: it means the OS is 32bit, it has no bearing on the CPU
[20:10] <accel> karla: yeah, but since it's an acyclic graph, it should be asy to see what can run in parallel
[20:11] <karla> accel: I agree, do you know of other package mechanisms that do it?
[20:11] <pixel4e> I've never played with grub. maybe it's time. :)
[20:11] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, where can I get the source?
[20:11] <melodie_> hi, does someone know a ubuntu docs chan please ? or translations ?
[20:11] <chammua> thanks user13 i did it
[20:11] <pixel4e> dajhorn: thank you.
[20:11] <chammua> $mono QlinkClient.ext...it's a simply :)
[20:11] <dajhorn> pixel4e: Welcome.
[20:11] <accel> karla: I have no idea if any other package machanism does it; I just fail to see a technical reason why apt-get can't do it
[20:11] <chammua> thanks you so much :)
[20:11] <router> can someone please help me create a symbollic link to my java plugin please?
[20:11] <hellslinger> anyone else here use equinox evolution and nautilus elementary
[20:11] <hellslinger> ?
[20:12] <dajhorn> router:  You need to provide more information.  Which plugin?  Which java implementation?   Why do you need to do it?
[20:12] <usr13> router: Sure
[20:12] <Zed`> [TK]D-Fender: You are correct - my ubuntu servers are ESX VMs so the iso is the easist way - I just connected the ios /as/ the VM's CD ROM
[20:12] <livingdaylight> gonna reboot
[20:12] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: from the manufacturer's web site, most likely
[20:12] <accel> "man ln"
[20:12] <yeahyeahyeah> thx inside-out-bunny
[20:12] <karla> accel: perhaps you'd have more luck askign in #debian - even then the most likely response will be 'send in a patch'
[20:13] <router> dajhorn: its the java plugin that comes with jdk 6u24
[20:13] <accel> karla: is there a way I can write a question that insults #debian so some guy gets pissed off and wites a patch just to shut me up?
[20:13] <router> usr13: ok its the java plugin that comes with jdk 6u24 v
[20:13] <OerHeks> melodie_, i'm not sure there is a translation channel, you find them on launchpad https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[20:13] <inside-out-bunny> accel: just say that windows xp can do it just fine
[20:14] <router> dajhorn: i need it to play games like runescape
[20:14] <accel> inside-out-bunny: lol
[20:14] <usr13> router:  When it was installed, it should have been set up for your system.  So what happened?
[20:14] <dajhorn> inside-out-bunny: +1
[20:14] <joeb_> splnet- did you get your answer ?
[20:14] <karla> inside-out-bunny: accel: :) - please #ubuntu-offtopic guys :)
[20:14] <inside-out-bunny> accel: that's how you troll OS developers.  Better yet, create a blog post "10 reasons why linux sucks"
[20:14] <router> usr13: i downloaded the jdk from oracles site
[20:14] <accel> inside-out-bunny: "10 things apt-get can't do"
[20:14] <melodie_> OerHeks, I need to find people in charge not to got to launchpad : there are errors and I would like a mean to communicate about it
[20:14]  * accel waits to get booted from #debian
[20:14] <usr13> router: And did you actually install it?
[20:14] <inside-out-bunny> "No drivers, specifically for XXX and YYY"
[20:15] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, or say Ubuntu can and that Debian can't xD
[20:15] <joeb_> splnet- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323939
[20:15] <router> usr13:  yes cause i type java -version and my version is the output
[20:15] <erUSUL> optimize the cpu parts of a i/o bound task is stupid
[20:15] <joeb_> sudo apt-get source
[20:16] <joeb_> sudo apt-get source <package name>
[20:16] <usr13> router: which java
[20:16] <Jonii> So, is it impossible to fix the mouse, or just that no one here knows detailed guide that explains how to do it?
[20:16] <router> jdk 6u24, usr13
[20:16] <splnet> joeb_: great thanks!
[20:18] <OerHeks> melodie_, maybe they do have a channel > join #ubuntu-translators
[20:18] <router> usr13: sun java idk what you are looking for
[20:18] <usr13> router: And it's showing the virsion that is specified for your game?
[20:19] <usr13> router: java -version shows the virsion that is specified for your game?
[20:20] <router> usr13: the command java -version in the terminal returns my version
[20:20] <usr13> router: So where do you need a link?
[20:20] <solstice>
[20:20] <s0u][ight> hello, i added a ppa and did an upgrade/dist-upgrade, it broke my system, so i removed the ppa, but how can i revert the changes made by the upgrade/dist-upgrade
[20:20] <router> i need a symbollic link to the plugin for the firefox browser
[20:20] <erUSUL> s0u][ight: use the command ppa-purge
[20:20] <router> usr13:  ^^^
[20:21] <erUSUL> s0u][ight: you may need to add the ppa again tu use it properly
[20:21] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, i don't have ppa-purge
[20:21] <erUSUL> install it
[20:21] <usr13> router: ls -l ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins
[20:22] <Odaym> i am reading the wget man page..i understand that i can just say "wget http://files2.zimbra.com/downloads/7.0.1_GA/zcs-7.0.1_GA_3105.DEBIAN5.20110304193033.tgz"
[20:22] <usr13> router: Actually, I think you can do it from the browser.
[20:22] <Odaym> ?
[20:22] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, description looks exactly like what i needed, thanks, hope it will work
[20:22] <router> usr13: ok
[20:22] <erUSUL> Odaym: yes
[20:22] <Odaym> and it will grab it and put it where?
[20:22] <Odaym> home?
[20:22] <Odaym> the user's home?
[20:22] <erUSUL> Odaym: the dir you are currently
[20:22] <Odaym> ah ok
[20:22] <erUSUL> Odaym: when you open a terminal that's home
[20:22] <usr13> router: But from the command line, you can see what java plugin you have in the plugins directory, (as shown above).
[20:22] <Odaym> yea
[20:23] <router> usr13: OK
[20:23] <Odaym> listen erUSUL, when i get it, and untar it..what do i do to install? the usual ./configure, make, make install?
[20:23] <eoss> where is access log
[20:23] <erUSUL> Odaym: dunno; it should have a INSTALL file that explains how it is installed
[20:23] <Odaym> ok i will see that one
[20:23] <router> usr13: javaplugin-oji.so  libnpjp2.so
[20:23] <Odaym> it's a big and respectable software
[20:23] <Odaym> it should
[20:23] <melodie_> OerHeks, thanks !
[20:23] <erUSUL> eoss: /var/log/ ?
[20:24] <Odaym> erUSUL, i am on a virtual machine running debian squeeze, and i want to install that file on it to make it a mail server client
[20:24] <router> usr13: that looks like them am i in the wrong directory?
[20:24] <Odaym> i know that installing a software will not make a machine a mail client though
[20:24] <erUSUL> Odaym: you should ask in #debian then
[20:24] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, it doesn't remove newly installed packages that came with dist-upgrade
[20:24] <Odaym> no answers yet, erUSUL
[20:25] <usr13> router: sudo updatedb
[20:25] <SimonPHOENIX> how to update aeverything in my ubuntu ? apt-get update?
[20:25] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, i'm going to see if it works or not
[20:25] <thebishop> hello, I am trying to use network manager to connect to an OpenVPN connection.  I can connect via the openvpn command line tool, but network manager fails to import my config file
[20:25] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: use the update manager in system>admin ?
[20:25] <router> usr13: brb
[20:26] <erUSUL> s0u][ight: as i said you may have to readd the ppa to run run the ppa-purge
[20:26] <SimonPHOENIX> erUSUL, i have only terminal
[20:26] <r0ute-ho> SimonPHOENIX: apt-get upgrade
[20:26] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:27] <AnubArack> is there an easy way to access files on win7 laptop over my wifi ?
[20:27] <melodie_> AnubArack, with samba ?
[20:27] <erUSUL> AnubArack: share them in win7 then in ubuntu use Places>Network>Windows network
[20:28] <AnubArack> i thought samba is for the othar way around
[20:28] <SimonPHOENIX> its working, thank you :)
[20:28] <erUSUL> AnubArack: samba is both ways
[20:28] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: no problem
[20:28] <AnubArack> oh
[20:28] <AnubArack> i'll try samba then
[20:28] <AnubArack> ty
[20:30] <AnubArack> oh and another thing. is there an easy way to set my 2 ntfs partitions to auto mount on startup and remain that way ?
[20:30] <Orangorill> quick question: is it possible to enable sound over HDMI in Ubuntu without fiddling with the terminal?
[20:30] <sgeo> I'm currently on Kubuntu, but I guess it makes no difference for this question
[20:31] <sgeo> For some reason, Linux won't load unless I add acpi=off. This is a problem because I need to be able to see my battery level
[20:32] <AnubArack> Orangorill, go into sound preferences and you have HDMI in output
[20:33] <Orangorill> I tried that, not getting any sound. all of the howtos are very terminal heavy, and to be honest it's a bit much for a beginner. guess it's analogue or Windows then :P
[20:33] <erUSUL> !ntfs | AnubArack
[20:33] <Odaym> erUSUL, can you please take a look at this how-to? http://www.howtoforge.com/zimbra-collaboration-suite-5.0-on-debian-etch
[20:33] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me get a tftp server running?  I tried tftd-hpa and some tutorials on forum but no success...
[20:34] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, can i ask you a favour?
[20:34] <Odaym> what should i replace the "server1.example.com" with?
[20:34] <fbotko> hey guys, i am a newbie in ubuntu (using ver 10.10) where i can find some good tool,tips and tricks and some tutorials? thanks
[20:35] <fbotko> sorry 4 my bad english :)
[20:35] <s0u][ight> fbotko, ubuntuforums
[20:35] <erUSUL> Odaym: the hostname of your server afaics
[20:35] <erUSUL> !manual | fbotko
[20:35] <erUSUL> s0u][ight: i'all tell you when i read what it is ;P
[20:36] <fbotko> okey thank you so much boys :)
[20:36] <s0u][ight> erUSUL, i'll pm you
[20:36] <sgeo> There's a thread that talks about the issue, and points out that yeah, acpi=off means no battery meter
[20:36]  * sgeo is ticked
[20:36]  * sgeo needs a battery meter
[20:36] <SimonPHOENIX> i have E: Invalid operation upgrade, why?
[20:37] <sgeo> Well, back to Windows then
[20:37] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: from ┬½ sudo apt-get upgrade ┬╗ ?
[20:37] <SimonPHOENIX> erUSUL, yes
[20:38] <semitones> I've got a suspicious .exe file on a USB drive -- is there any web-based way of scanning that one file for windows viruses?
[20:38] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: are you sure you do not made a typo ?
[20:38] <kilkor> jotti.org
[20:38] <hwilde> what is the name of the disk usage analyzer program that pops up on low disk space?
[20:38] <kilkor> virusscan.jotti.org or something like that
[20:38] <nishant> is it possible to list file desciptors in ubuntu
[20:39] <erUSUL> hwilde: baobab
[20:39] <erUSUL> nishant: lsof? fuser?
[20:39] <hwilde> erUSUL, wow no wonder I couldn't find it....
[20:39] <nishant> like fstat in freebsd
[20:39] <jzero88> what does the command "make clean" do?
[20:39] <erUSUL> !info baobab
[20:39] <erUSUL> hwilde: Aplications>Accesories>disk use analizer
[20:40] <hwilde> erUSUL, I was trying from cmd :)
[20:40] <SimonPHOENIX> erUSUL, yes, i am, but i did twice, meybe thats why
[20:40] <xrdodrx> semitones, like http://www.virustotal.com/ /
[20:40] <xrdodrx> ?*
[20:40] <erUSUL> SimonPHOENIX: twice or ten times it shouldn't matter
[20:40] <nishant> thans erUSUL lsof is more like it
[20:41] <semitones> xrdodrx, exactly like that! Thanks :)
[20:41] <xrdodrx> semitones, no problem :D
[20:42] <guntbert> jzero88: that depends entirely on the contents of the Makefile in the directory where you call it, but usually it removes all traces from previous compilations
[20:42] <Jonii> Ok, I asked elsewhere, it seems it's possible to fix mouse by editing xorg.conf
[20:42] <SimonPHOENIX> erUSUL, i have minimal server version ubuntu
[20:42] <Jonii> Are there any good tutorials to that?
[20:42] <jzero88> guntbert, Ah I see, thank you
[20:42] <erUSUL> !fixres
[20:42] <guntbert> jzero88: you're welcome :-)
[20:42] <jzero88> guntbert, that wont erase changes from the .config file owuld it?
[20:42] <Jehiva> Hey guys I have a new hard drive, is it possible to install an OS from it while booted into my main drive? I do not want to burn the iso's for it
[20:42] <Jehiva> from it = to it
[20:43] <guntbert> jzero88: not with standard install archives
[20:43] <jzero88> Jehiva, so you have two hard drive in one computer?
[20:43] <Jehiva> yea
[20:43] <kilkor> Jehiva: I'm not aware of one unless you want to make a VM instead of a bootable OS
[20:43] <jzero88> Jehiva, yea you should be able to
[20:43] <Jehiva> I am on a sata right now and just plugged in my old ide drive, want to use it for back ups but would also like to tweak it to see how fast I can make a boot
[20:44] <jobpols> hi, how can i copy text that is beyond the screen on mirc? i mean the scroll bar doesnt work
[20:44] <ajf> Launch a terminal, and do this: curl http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2705524/ashdoc2.png|aplay
[20:44] <jobpols> when trying to copy/selecting text
[20:44] <Jehiva> I assume use gparted to format the drive, but how do I go about install an OS to it without burning an iso image?
[20:45] <semitones> xrdodrx, hmm most of the virus scanners on that site don't detect anything, but a few I don't recognize do... like comono
[20:45] <Auriga> Use a usb?
[20:45] <SimonPHOENIX> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade when im using in one line, second one is invalid, when im using in 2 lines, both of them are invalid
[20:46] <xrdodrx> semitones, well, virus-scan software is prone to false positives...the best tip I can give you is to keep using Ubuntu :) or if you don't trust the file, don't run it on a Windows machine. You can also run it under wine and see what it does...
[20:47] <Fernanda_webdesi> ol├Ī algum brasileiro ?
[20:47] <jobpols> Fernanda_webdesi eu
[20:47] <semitones> haha yeah I've heard people say that running viruses in wine actually can hurt
[20:48] <semitones> but i'm deleting it just in case
[20:48] <jobpols> Fernanda_webdesi: qual o problema?
[20:48] <Pici> !br | Fernanda_webdesi jobpols
[20:48] <Fernanda_webdesi> estou precisando de ajuda
[20:49] <jobpols> #ubuntu-br
[20:49] <mia158> yes yoiu can
[20:52] <j2k1> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10, but the option to install alongside windows isn't there
[20:56] <dumont> i have a problem, i have a folder with user2:group2 permissions and chmod 0770, problem is i am user1 and i am part of group2, however I cannot access this folder, WHY?
[20:57] <dumont> i have a problem, i have a folder with user2:group2 permissions and chmod 0770, problem is i am user1 and i am part of group2, however I cannot access this folder, WHY?
[20:58] <DouglasK> Question: how do I set syslog to accept log connections from a host on my network?
[20:58] <DouglasK> dumont: have you checked what the permissions are on the files in the folder?
[20:58] <dumont> folder is empty
[20:59] <cache_surplus> what is the easiest and works best way to install an HP printer. printer is hooked up with usb to laptop? thanks
[20:59] <wildc4rd> evenin
[20:59] <guntbert> dumont: please pastebin the output of     id    and of    ls -l  <that folder>
[20:59] <dumont> cache_surplus:  what does the manual for installing the drivers for linux say for this prointer?
[20:59] <DouglasK> cache_surplus: in many cases if you plug it in, it'll just work.
[21:00] <cache_surplus> id like to use the HP Device manager though.
[21:00] <DouglasK> dumont: that's true of the last couple HP printers I did that with.
[21:00] <erUSUL> ajf: stop posting that please
[21:00] <SimonPHOENIX> i need bash plugin for eclipse, anyone know some?
[21:00] <cache_surplus> there are 3 options 1. hp-setup in cli 2. cups web interface 3. printer install util on ubuntu
[21:01] <DouglasK> cache_surplus: then use hp-setup.  If it doesn't support your printer, hit the hp website to get an updated version.
[21:01] <dumont> http://pastebin.com/5vSf414J
[21:01] <ajf> erUSUL?
[21:01] <ajf> I posted it once
[21:02] <erUSUL> ajf: my bad :)
[21:02] <zacwhite15> hey guys got a question, anyone here good with wine? im trying to get GTA IV running
[21:02] <khem_> tjhoho
[21:02] <erUSUL> !appdb > zacwhite15
[21:02] <cache_surplus> cups vs hp-setup cli?
[21:02] <Logan_> !who | cache_surplus
[21:03] <cache_surplus> Logan i havent found im talking to one person yet.. thanks though
[21:03] <zacwhite15> hey does anyone know if there is a way to customize the top bar in 11.04?
[21:03] <cache_surplus> i am gather intel at this time...
[21:03] <zacwhite15> im running in unity
[21:03] <dumont> guntbert: http://pastebin.com/5vSf414J
[21:04] <erUSUL> zacwhite15: #ubnutu+1 for natty 11.04 questions please
[21:04] <router> can someone help me enable java through my browser please?
[21:05] <zacwhite15> joined that room and no one is in there
[21:05] <guntbert> dumont: and    id?
[21:05] <dumont> how?
[21:06] <andygraybeal> i have muy computer set to 'auto security updates' how do i know when to reboot the computer ?  is there a command i can type to see if it needs rebooted to make any changes after an update?
[21:06] <enquora> map_static reported as invalid keyword for my nfs exports file. why?
[21:07] <zacwhite15> andray are you running in GUI or cmd line?
[21:08] <zacwhite15> **andy
[21:08] <Pumpkin-> how should I go about reporting broken things on the ubuntu website ?
[21:09] <zacwhite15> @pumpkin http://www.ubuntu.com/community/report-problem
[21:09] <router> can someone help me enable java through my browser please im new to linux
[21:09] <Pumpkin-> cheers
[21:09] <zacwhite15> np m8
[21:10] <xrdodrx> !java | router
[21:10] <andygraybeal> zacwhite15, command line or gui
[21:10] <andygraybeal> zacwhite15, i don't mind the command line and prefer it sometimes.
[21:11] <dumont> when I do alias ls="ls --color=always" in gnome terminal in ubuntu 10.x GUI, it work, up until i close the terminal, and start a new one, why isn't the alias being saved?
[21:11] <andygraybeal> zacwhite15, sorry, i didn't parse the 'andray' and then **andy
[21:11] <erUSUL> dumont: becouse you have to do it yourself
[21:11] <dumont> how?
[21:11] <erUSUL> dumont: add it to ~/.bashrc
[21:12] <dumont> and if I don't have .bashrc in my home folder?
[21:12] <dumont> create it?
[21:12] <EvilPhoenix> dumont:  you probly have it, but its hidden typically
[21:12] <erUSUL> dumont: evey ubuntu system has it
[21:12] <amr> anyone here know what package harvard.sty comes in for latex on ubuntu?
[21:12] <erUSUL> dumont: if you are using nautilus to access it press "crtl + h " to see hidden files
[21:13] <erUSUL> !find harvard.sty
[21:13] <erUSUL> amr: ^
[21:13] <dumont> i never run nautilis without showing hidden files
[21:13] <dumont> and .bashrc is NOT there
[21:13] <amr> i thought so, but i can't find that package, erUSUL
[21:13] <erUSUL> amr: are you in maverick ?
[21:13] <amr> oh hang on
[21:14] <andygraybeal> zacwhite15, can you help me with how i can tell when ubuntu needs a reboot after an update?  *in the command line
[21:14] <amr> yea
[21:14] <erUSUL> dumont: it has to be there
[21:14] <amr> i misspelt texlive
[21:14] <dumont> i grepped it, nowhere in my home folder PERIOD
[21:14] <erUSUL> dumont: it is copied from /etc/skel/ when the user is created. all users have bash as default shell
[21:14] <Grace_Augustine> how do i setup a isci target on a ubuntu box http://www.howtoforge.com/using-iscsi-on-ubuntu-10.04-initiator-and-target i am useign that tutorial and am confused as to the correct info to specify in the /etc/ietd.conf filr
[21:14] <morpher> hi
[21:14] <r000t2> I just accidentally copied a firmware file to /etc/firmware instead of /lib/firmware.  What can go wrong if I accidentally copy a firmware file to /etc/firmware, overwriting it?
[21:17] <dumont> like i said i don't have it in my home dir, it must have gotten deleted in the very beginning when i accidentally erased my home dir, and didn't get recreated
[21:17] <xrdodrx> morpher, yes, although you I'd use xubuntu in that case :)
[21:18] <zacwhite15> hey andy, thats a file i can edit right?
[21:18] <morpher> but it is normal that the boot need 5 minutes?
[21:18] <zacwhite15> sorry im switching between several windows
[21:18] <erUSUL> dumont: i've made a typo is bashrc not bahsrc ...note the transposed sh
[21:18] <xrdodrx> morpher, no, it isn't :<
[21:18] <Grace_Augustine> how do i setup a iscsi target on a Ubuntu box http://www.howtoforge.com/using-iscsi-on-ubuntu-10.04-initiator-and-target i am using that tutorial and am confused as to the correct info to specify in the /etc/ietd.conf file
[21:18] <morpher> so i think^^
[21:18] <dumont> erUSUL:  my statement still holds true
[21:19] <Jordan_U> r000t2: You can always re-install the package suplying that firmware files (find the right package with "dpkg -S /lib/firmware/foo").
[21:19] <erUSUL> dumont: gedit ~/.bashrc
[21:19] <dumont> erUSUL: i seem to be the only user which doesn't have .bashrc GRRRRRR
[21:19] <r000t2> Jordan_U does that restore the now gone /etc/firmware?
[21:19] <dumont> end of story
[21:19] <dumont> thanks
[21:19] <erUSUL> dumont: ok; copie it from /etc/skel/ then
[21:19] <erUSUL> copy*
[21:19] <r000t2> I'm afraid I won't be able to reboot now
[21:20] <dumont> still don't know why i can't access a folder 0770 when i'm part of that permissions group
[21:20] <erUSUL> dumont: cp /etc/skel/.* ~/
[21:22] <Jordan_U> r000t2: There is no such file (/etc/firmware) on my machine, nor have I ever heard of such a file before. I doubt there was anything there previously to be overwritten.
[21:22] <karla> Jordan_U: /lib/firmware then?
[21:23] <karla> Jordan_U: nvm i just read above
[21:25] <dumont> holy crap my user doesn't have a group id, thu8s it's all under root XD
[21:26] <zacwhite15> so anyone know what's going to be in the next push of updates?
[21:26] <zacwhite15> for natty
[21:26] <mickster04> !natty
[21:26] <zacwhite15> oops, wrong channel. lol i just noticed. sry guys
[21:28] <dumont> how do you change the owner of hidden files? sudo chown -R me:me * doesn't work
[21:29] <dumont> ^ applying it to all the files in my home dir
[21:29] <Dcite> For hidden files you can't target everything.
[21:30] <Dcite> More viable to do it from /home  sudo chown -R me:me /home/me
[21:30] <Fizd> Noob question; how can i remount the root fs and initiate /sbin/init from an initramfs busybox rescue prompt? mount -r -t ext4 /dev/sda1 / returns Invalid argument
[21:30] <llutz> dumont: chown user .*
[21:31] <jiltdil> i want to make a file in directory Downloads via terminal how to do that in one line?
[21:31] <Dcite> llutz: That will get all hidden files in the current folder, but is not recursive, if you make it recursive it will take over the whole system
[21:32] <joeb_> can i stream pandora from vlc / xine anything like that ?
[21:32] <Dcite> jiltdil: mkdir Downloads && touch Downloads/somefile.ext
[21:32] <amro_> can eny 1 help me plz?
[21:32] <xstation> last week i was given this howto http://www.ece.uci.edu/~chou/ssh-key.html now to copy the key from my osx to ubuntu server I must do cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"umask 077; mkdir -p .ssh ; cat >> .ssh/authorized_keys" does this look correct?
[21:33] <jiltdil> Dcite:thanx
[21:33] <cache_surplus> how do i know or where can i find out the driver for  Officejet_6300_series?serial=CN768CG00204J5
[21:33] <MadMao> does anyone know how to pass an argument to the terminal application when it launches?
[21:34] <Fizd> man foo
[21:34] <MadMao> instead of the regular "gnome-terminal" I would like it to launch "gnome-terminal --full-screen"
[21:34] <mickster04> MadMao: just like that?
[21:34] <maco> MadMao: you can edit the .desktop file for the launcher. it's the Exec= line
[21:34] <MadMao> ahh
[21:34] <MadMao> maco:thanx
[21:35] <cryptodira> i did an 'alternate' install/upgrade of 10.10 amd/64 from the iso (no cd burning) on a fully updated 10.04 amd64 laptop...grub (which i never had before) now presents me with 4 options and generic and recovery of <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> kernels....the 35 simply hangs... the 32 will hang on the first boot.... and will only complete if i try the recovery choice for that one and then finally boot the .32 version again .... i do NOT th
[21:35] <cryptodira> ink this is normal.... how can i fix it?
[21:35] <mickster04> amro_: i dunno, what's your problem?
[21:35] <cache_surplus> 03f0:5311 Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet 6300
[21:35] <cache_surplus> CN was the serial
[21:36] <dumont> i have a problem, i have a folder with user2:group2 permissions and chmod 0770, problem is i am user1 and i am part of group2, however I cannot access this folder, WHY?
[21:37] <joeb_> im looking for galeon for maverick ?
[21:38] <Fizd> should I issue switch_root upon remounting my root fs from the initramfs rescue shell?
[21:38] <hayden> how can i manually add a repository?
[21:39] <cache_surplus> cups reports with hpcups selected - drv:///hpijs.drv/hp-officejet_6300_series-hpijs.ppd
[21:39] <jiltdil> i open terminal go to edit-->profile preference-->title and command  and ticked the option run a custom command instead of my shell; after doing this when i want to ope n my termianl it always splashes and gets vanished how to get rid of this?
[21:40] <Lesterwood> did you know that ubuntu comes from a ancient african word meaning "i can't configure debian"
[21:40] <xrdodrx> !sources | hayden
[21:40] <WXZ> does anyone know how to copy notes in basket notes with the text structure intact
[21:41] <dumont> i have a problem, i have a folder with user2:group2 permissions and chmod 0770, problem is i am user1 and i am part of group2, however I cannot access this folder, WHY?
[21:41] <ChogyDan> Lesterwood: ancient eh, I guess debian has been around awhile  :P
[21:41] <melodie_> dumont, don't chmod wild
[21:42] <dumont> melodie_:  too late, anyway, why can't i access a folder of which group i am a part of?
[21:42] <jiltdil> any solution to my problem?
[21:42] <te> dumont: You would have to pastebin some of that for us to see before we could figure it out. (Too much hypotheticalness).
[21:42] <dumont> not really
[21:42] <melodie_> dumont, where in the system is located your folder ?
[21:43] <router> who was helping me
[21:43] <router> i forgot
[21:43] <jiltdil> i open terminal go to edit-->profile preference-->title and command  and ticked the option run a custom command instead of my shell; after doing this when i want to ope n my termianl it always splashes and gets vanished how to get rid of this?
[21:43] <melodie_> dumont, I opened a window to talk in private, do you see it ?
[21:44] <dumont> its a folder 0770, chmoded to user2:group2, folder is in /Projects/, i went to users and groups, and created a group2 group and checked my username off, user2 is another user on the system
[21:44] <te> dumont: ls -ld /folder/in/question | pastebinit  ; pastebinit /etc/group ; who | pastebinit
[21:44] <melodie_> te what do you want him to do that for ? his question is very simple really
[21:44] <te> dumont: Can I pm you?
[21:45] <te> melodie_: Oh, then you answer his question.
[21:45] <melodie_> all he wants to do is share a folder between 2 users, nothing complicated
[21:45] <Fizd> i suppose mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt/ro; exec switch_root /mnt/ro /sbin/init will suffice?
[21:45] <cache_surplus> it appears im getting double printers in print manager under app - admin - printing... i deleted the two and kept the ones created by ubuntu on plug in
[21:45] <Fizd> :/
[21:45] <dumont> i'm on irssi with a ton of channels on so i don't want to jump around looking for your pm
[21:45] <melodie_> I opened a window to talk privately, I'll wait one minute for dumont to see it
[21:45] <router> who was helping me
[21:45] <te> melodie_: The answer is that if he sets permissons correctly, he CAN.
[21:45] <router> i forgot who it was
[21:46] <melodie_> dumont, would you try xchat ?
[21:46] <Lesterwood> why is it that sometimes when i boot ubuntu and log in i get kde menus along with my gnome panels and shit
[21:46] <mickster04> dumont it'll show you which channels you have been mentioned at the bottom
[21:46] <dumont> no
[21:46] <mickster04> dumont: it'll be highlighted yellow perhaps
[21:46] <melodie_> te ok for that I would put the directory under /media and not under /
[21:46] <Lesterwood> usually after opening a file or something it goes back to normal
[21:46] <zacwhite15> lol sounds to me like you have kde binaries installed m8
[21:46] <Lesterwood> but this is odd
[21:46] <melodie_> to make it clean
[21:46] <router> !language Lesterwood
[21:46] <router> lol
[21:46] <Lesterwood> can anyone explain this
[21:46] <mickster04> dumont: then alt+number gets you there
[21:46] <Lesterwood> !language
[21:46] <Lesterwood> ah
[21:47] <dumont> drwxrwx--- 2 user2 arp 4096 2011-03-09 12:43 /Projects/Arp/
[21:47] <jiltdil> no help :(
[21:47] <melodie_> te dumont and I would do this for permissions , under the /media/ directory:
[21:47] <router> !language | Lesterwood
[21:47] <mickster04> jiltdil: not yet
[21:47] <melodie_> find . -type d -exec chmod 750 Stuff
[21:47] <cryptodira> i did an 'alternate' install/upgrade of 10.10 amd/64 from the iso (no cd burning) on a fully updated 10.04 amd64 laptop...grub (which i never had before) now presents me with 4 options and generic and recovery of <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> kernels....the 35 simply hangs... the 32 will hang on the first boot.... and will only complete if i try the recovery choice for that one and then finally boot the .32 version again .... i do NOT th
[21:47] <cryptodira> ink this is normal.... how can i fix it?
[21:47] <melodie_> where "Stuff" is the name of dumont's shared directory
[21:47] <mickster04> jiltdil: type your problem in again in a minute
[21:47] <drobole> Lesterwood: do you have both kdm and gdm running?
[21:48] <jiltdil> i open terminal go to edit-->profile preference-->title and command  and ticked the option run a custom command instead of my shell; after doing this when i want to ope n my termianl it always splashes and gets vanished how to get rid of this?
[21:48] <dumont> i have more than 10 channels open so no, alt+# doesn't work
[21:48] <melodie_> well crap, how can you help someone in the middle of such a crowd ?
[21:48] <Lesterwood> drobole, how can i check
[21:48] <melodie_> dumont, I give up sorry !
[21:48] <melodie_> bye
[21:48] <Lesterwood> i am not sure
[21:48] <mickster04> jiltdil: maybe you entered something wrong?
[21:48] <drobole> Lesterwood: ps ax | grep gdm
[21:48] <drobole> Lesterwood: ps ax | grep kdm
[21:48] <te> melter: That is what pm is for.
[21:48] <mickster04> !who | melodie
[21:49] <dumont> te drwxrwx--- 2 user2 arp 4096 2011-03-09 12:43 /Projects/Arp/
[21:49] <jiltdil> mickster04:no i wrote here as i had done
[21:49] <dumont> te:  what else did you want to know?
[21:49] <Lesterwood> drobole, how do i interpret this
[21:49] <qcjn2> hi, someone suggested me to upgrade the ffmpeg librairies, so i installed it, and it did installed, didn't tell me i had the latest version, but i don't know if it "upgraded the librairies"
[21:49] <te> dumont: see my pm
[21:50] <te> dumont: pastebinit /etc/group
[21:50] <jiltdil> mickster04: i tick mark on the  "run a custom command insteadof my shell" in terminal edit-->profile preference-->title and command
[21:50] <drobole> Lesterwood: if kdm is running the kdm output will be like more than 0 or 1 line
[21:50] <mickster04> jiltdil: and did you actually enter a command to run?
[21:51] <router> can someone help me enable java through firefox please
[21:51] <drobole> Lesterwood: so to speak
[21:51] <jiltdil> mickster04: i write there a in command option
[21:51] <mickster04> jiltdil: and what was this command of which you speak?
[21:51] <jiltdil> mickster04:    thats      simply   a
[21:51] <drobole> Lesterwood: when I run the kdm command i get 1 line without kdm in it, so kdm is not kunning
[21:52] <drobole> *running
[21:52] <mickster04> jiltdil: .... there should be a text box you  enter this command intp
[21:53] <jiltdil> mickster04: i write in custom command simply "a"
[21:53] <jiltdil> mickster04: a without quotes
[21:54] <drobole> Lesterwood: you would run those commands in a terminal btw
[21:54] <Lesterwood> i did
[21:54] <Lesterwood> it seems they are both running
[21:54] <Lesterwood> :/
[21:54] <opie> I have a question about installing ubuntu on a usb stick, could someone pm me? thanks
[21:54] <Lesterwood> what now?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> opie: Just ask your (entire) question.
[21:55] <holizz> Hi. Does anybody know a) if there's a Perl module for interacting with Unity's messaging menu, or b) where the documentation for Unity's C API is?
[21:55] <opie> I made a boot-able usb thumb drive of 10.10 from a virtual machine through windows7. If i choose "install Xubuntu" when i boot from the usb drive, will this install xubuntu on the usb drive only or will it override my windows 7 on the hdd?
[21:55] <drobole> Lesterwood: thats a problem, the question then becomes "How to configure what login managers should run at startup". Im not sure myself
[21:55] <Lesterwood> i see
[21:55] <cache_surplus> alright, success, i have finally successfully printed 3 pages with out the printer choking on me. i used the  localhost:631 option to set up the printer, used cups driver as listed vs hpijswhatever, then when i when to actually print a document, i tried first with cups option, wouldnt allow via pop up message stating use libreoffice with in doc to print, success. i assume for this printer, cups was the fix, however, when i w
[21:55] <Jordan_U> opie: It will install wherever you tell the installer to install.
[21:56] <opie> Jordan_U: thanks
[21:56] <jiltdil> mickster04:http://img806.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img806/4992/screenshot1fgy.png    see this i have had done that
[21:59] <drobole> Lesterwood: try this command: less /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:59] <drobole> Lesterwood: should have only 1 line in it
[21:59] <mickster04> jiltdil: and now you can't open terminal or what
[21:59] <Jordan_U> opie: You're welcome. Note that to do a normal install to the drive you booted the installer from you need to do some extra work. (i.e. it's difficult to install to the USB drive while booted into that same USB drive).
[22:00] <sm_> hello
[22:00] <sm_> my shift key stopped working
[22:00] <cache_surplus> anyfoo
[22:00] <cache_surplus> thanks, l8
[22:00] <jiltdil> mickster04: i can't open my terminal
[22:00] <sm_> ubuntu_, gnome
[22:00] <mickster04> jiltdil: oh did you also notice that below that is "when this command is run do:" followed by 'close terminal'?
[22:01] <mickster04> jiltdil: hum...not at all :( in which case you may need to work out where gnome terminal stores it's settings like that
[22:01] <jiltdil> mickster04: so how to overcome this problem?
[22:02] <mickster04> jiltdil: i don't know, find the gnome-terminal settings, manually edit them and remove that. it may be in gconf that you wanna start looking
[22:02] <amro_> hello
[22:02] <xrdodrx> amro_, hi
[22:03] <amro_> hi x
[22:03] <amro_> can u help me plz  x
[22:03] <cryptodira> i did an 'alternate' install/upgrade of 10.10 amd/64 from the iso (no cd burning) on a fully updated 10.04 amd64 laptop...grub (which i never had before) now presents me with 4 options and generic and recovery of <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> kernels....the 35 simply hangs... the 32 will hang on the first boot.... and will only complete if i try the recovery choice for that one and then finally boot the .32 version again .... i do NOT th
[22:03] <cryptodira> ink this is normal.... how can i fix it?
[22:03] <xrdodrx> amro_, If you state your problem in the channel, either I or someone else will try to help you :)
[22:04] <gekken> how do all
[22:04] <mickster04> cryptodira: burn a disk, clean install?
[22:04] <amro_> ok  i need to make a video call on  emsn massenger  haw can i do it?
[22:05] <mickster04> amro_: amsn you mean?
[22:05] <cryptodira> mickster04, yep, burned a disk.... will NOT install
[22:05] <amro_> yas
[22:05] <mickster04> cyphase: did you md5 the iso?
[22:05] <lanoxx> my printer does not print the first few lines of a page therefore every page i print is cut of at the top
[22:05] <jiltdil> mickster04:thanx i will try  thank for guiding me! goodnight
[22:05] <lanoxx> is there any way i can fix it
[22:05] <mickster04> cryptodira: did you md5 the iso?
[22:05] <lanoxx> it makes my printer very useless like this
[22:05] <gekken> @lanoxx - make, model?
[22:06] <mickster04> amro_: have you checked the settings?
[22:06] <cryptodira> mickster04, yepper..... always md5 stuff before installing
[22:06] <mickster04> cryptodira: so what happens when you try and install?
[22:06] <amro_> ya  but i can send my cam only i cant make a voic  call
[22:07] <te> routh: install icetea6-plugin
[22:07] <mickster04> amro_: have you check sound preferences
[22:07] <te> routh: Sorry, wrong nic
[22:07] <cryptodira> it splashes the language page... the the choices... choosing install... delivers me to a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left for hours....
[22:07] <amro_> ya its work good
[22:08] <te> lanoxx: You probably have wrong page size selected
[22:08] <gekken> @cryptodira - what platform are you trying to install on?
[22:08] <te> *paper size
[22:08] <zzz> hey all, i am having issues while trying to install ubuntu 10.10 from usb
[22:08] <mickster04> cryptodira: have you selected try ubuntu?
[22:08] <zzz> it is just hanged on the screen that says
[22:08] <amro_> but no option to make video call plz tell me haw can i make it
[22:08] <zzz> preparing the installation
[22:08] <cryptodira> mickster04, amd/64 on a toshiba laptop
[22:08] <zzz> but don't go any further
[22:08] <te> amro_: Do you have your mouse muted?
[22:08] <mickster04> cryptodira: i assume your laptop is 64bit?
[22:08] <amro_> ?????
[22:09] <te> zzz: Check your media
[22:09] <gekken> lol, muting a mouse, with an itsy-bitsy gag
[22:09] <zzz> media ?
[22:09] <zzz> what to check for
[22:09] <gekken> Which toshiba?
[22:09] <lanoxx> te, the printer runs at A4, im printing also a4 from openoffice
[22:09] <cryptodira> mickster04,  trying ubuntu delivers the same response.... blank screen... blinking cursor... yes, this machine is an amd/64 machine with NO other os... only ubuntu
[22:09] <lanoxx> it also happens if i print from other programms
[22:09] <lanoxx> it always cuts of a few centimeters from the head of every page
[22:09] <te> lanoxx: What size is the paper you have in the printer?
[22:10] <lanoxx> te, A4 printer
[22:10] <lanoxx> te, with A4 paper
[22:10] <mickster04> cryptodira: well then alls i can sugest is the iso is somehow damaged, mayb the disk didn't burn properly, did you use the verification?
[22:10] <amro_> hyyyyy no one can help me
[22:10] <zzz> te , what is wrong with media?
[22:10] <mickster04> amro_: nope
[22:10] <mal_> testing
[22:11] <lanoxx> te, its standard paper, standard printer (brother DCP-560-CN)
[22:11] <gekken> @amro_ so far you have not given anyone anything to help you with
[22:11] <gekken> @amro_ MSN doesn't work
[22:11] <mickster04> amro_: there will be error mesages usually, settings will give you clues etc
[22:11] <mal_> Can I chat here about ubuntu 9.04?
[22:11] <mickster04> amro_: have you tried skype?
[22:11] <amro_> ok haw can i make avideo call on emsn massenger
[22:11] <gekken> @amro_ we know, now specifically, what have you done about it?
[22:11] <cryptodira> mickster04, yepper... the disk verified... this was/is an upgrade from a fully updated 10.04 amd64 with the exception of OPERA not being upgraded... no public key ... to verify with.
[22:11] <mickster04> !9.04
[22:12] <mal_> I like old things
[22:12] <mickster04> mal_: nope, eol is passed, please take it to offtopic
[22:12] <zzz> come on, how can i pass this preparing to install screen
[22:12] <cryptodira> mickster04,  the other problem... once i have booted.... the sound and network apps for the top panel were/are missing.... the cli commands only restore mail and display.
[22:12] <zzz> i am getting crazy
[22:12] <gekken> Try the minimal install
[22:12] <amro_> no option on emsn massenger to make video call
[22:13] <gekken> you won't see that screen again. I guarantee it
[22:13] <mal_> b4I go can someone tell me how to magnify the script on this page thanks.
[22:13] <amro_> like  msn on windows
[22:13] <te> lanoxx: Do you have something to measure with?  Give it to us in inches.
[22:13] <gekken> @amro_ then there you are.
[22:13] <amro_> what do u meen
[22:13] <gekken> @amro_ MSN is proprietary, if it works, it works, if it doesn't, call M$.
[22:13] <mickster04> amro_: use skype, that works
[22:14] <Odaym> haha
[22:14] <Odaym> M$
[22:14] <lanoxx> te, the page size? or the amout of page cut of///
[22:14] <Odaym> nice
[22:14] <Odaym> *adds it*
[22:14] <mickster04> cryptodira: i thought you were doing a clean install? you can upgrade from 10.04 without a disk?
[22:14] <gekken> Oldy but a goody
[22:14] <te> lanoxx: Ok, let me ask you this:  What part of the world do you live in?
[22:14] <lanoxx> te, Germany
[22:15] <te> lanoxx: SO you do indeed have A4 size paper in the printer?
[22:15] <amro_> ya i use skype to make video call but more frind on msn i need this option to call
[22:15] <cryptodira> mickster04,  sure... use the alternate iso and run from the cli.... goes much faster than from the disk...
[22:15] <lanoxx> yes, i have the box beside me, it reads A4
[22:15] <mickster04> amro_: well try a different msn compatible program amsn might just not work. though i would have thought it would
[22:16] <te> lanoxx: Because it soulds like the paper size is too long.  Try setting to US Letter and see what happens.
[22:16] <mal_> mickster04: how do I get to offtopic?
[22:16] <lanoxx> te, will waiting for your answers i found a bugreport on launchpad that im just trying, hang on on moment
[22:16] <amro_> ok what is anther app
[22:16] <mickster04> cryptodira: ok, so did you try upgrading to 10.10 using the update manager at all?
[22:16] <mickster04> !ot | mal_
[22:16] <cryptodira> mickster04,  i was unable to get the 10.10 live cd to run.... so i went with the alternate that can be used without a net connection or cd
[22:16] <mickster04> !msn | amro_:
[22:16] <mal_> ok thanks
[22:16] <mickster04> cryptodira: you already have ubuntu installed no?
[22:17] <amro_> no msn on ubuntu
[22:17] <lanoxx> te, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brother-cups-wrapper-extra/+bug/550764
[22:17] <lanoxx> te, i think i just fixed it with the instruciton in this bug report
[22:17] <router> can someone help me create a symbollic link to my java plugin in the firefox plugins directory please
[22:18] <gekken> man ln
[22:18] <gekken> next
[22:18] <ricorx7> router: ln -s
[22:18] <m_fulder> hey
[22:18] <amro_> helloooooooooooooooooo
[22:18] <router> ricorx7: yeah idk where the .so is though
[22:18] <m_fulder> anyone in here know how an IRC bot works?
[22:18] <opie> Jordan_U: I have 3 options, 1)install alongside current OS 2)use entire disk, 3)select partition manually. which am i supposed to choose to install to usb and not hdd ?
[22:18] <cryptodira> mickster04,  i did NOT use the update manager.... i am on a satellite connection (off grid) and did not want to lose the signal partway through.....  i had 10.04.2 running at the time of the upgrade to 10.10
[22:18] <m_fulder> how do I make myself an operator=
[22:18] <gekken> amro_ no MSN for you, I said good day
[22:18] <amro_> why?
[22:18] <bastidrazor> m_fulder: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[22:19] <m_fulder> thanks =)
[22:19] <gekken> ask Microsoft
[22:19] <te> lanoxx: very good
[22:19] <te> router: install icetea6-plugin
[22:19] <ricorx7> router: i forget, but there was a tutorial i found that showed it, did you google it?
[22:19] <amro_> whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[22:19] <router> ricorx7: no
[22:20] <te> router: sudo apt-get install icetea6-plugin
[22:20] <gekken> Bill gates hates you, that's why
[22:20] <bastidrazor> gekken: be helpful.
[22:20] <router> te: icedtea = garbage
[22:20] <amro_> plzzzzzzz
[22:20] <te> router: Doesn't work?
[22:20] <router> te: im a dev so i need Sun
[22:21] <vexedemon> Evening all.
[22:21] <xrdodrx> vexedemon, evening :D
[22:21] <te> router: Ok... Well, just did some experimenting on this other PC and could not get it to work.
[22:21] <ricorx7> router: try http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/761107
[22:21] <ricorx7> gives command for symbolic links for java
[22:21] <opie> Jordan_U: I have 3 options, 1)install alongside current OS 2)use entire disk, 3)select partition manually. which am i supposed to choose to install to usb and not hdd ?
[22:21] <vexedemon> router: whats the problem?
[22:22] <router> ricorx7: i need to create a symbollic link to the plugin
[22:22] <te> router: And it seems strange that on sun's site, there are instructions for red hat and not ubuntu
[22:22] <Jordan_U> opie: You're welcome. Note that to do a normal install to the drive you booted the installer from you need to do some extra work. (i.e. it's difficult to install to the USB drive while booted into that same USB drive).
[22:22] <Jordan_U> opie: (I sent that message just after you quit before).
[22:22] <gekken> they should be identical, except for the $PATH
[22:22] <te> router: Let me do some further research
[22:22] <router> vexedemon: need to create a symbollic link to a java plugin
[22:22] <gekken> which should be pretty straightforward
[22:22] <opie> Jordan_U: woops sorry, was here on VM and restarted to try and install
[22:23] <ricorx7> router: i guess we need more info, which plugin?
[22:23] <cryptodira> mickster04, i will keep futzing with it.... Thank YOU for your help and time.
[22:23] <Jordan_U> opie: To install to the drive you're booted from you need to pass the "toram" parameter to the kernel at boot.
[22:23] <router> ricorx7: the one that is included in the jdk
[22:23] <usr13> router: te https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[22:23] <ricorx7> router: ok, so you need java to work in firefox?
[22:24] <mickster04> cryptodira: good luck
[22:24] <opie> Jordan_U: k then it will show up on the list?
[22:24] <claviceps_> hi, since the kernel update a few days ago my system seems to have a misterious device on /dev/sdc (which hangs fdisk -l and also suspend); any idea what's going on?
[22:24] <Jordan_U> opie: Yes.
[22:24] <router> ricorx7: hold on i think i found the plugin
[22:24] <vexedemon> clav: nothing new attached, no usb devices?
[22:24] <opie> Jordan_U: k great, thanks I will give it a try now.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> opie: As long as the USB drive is large enough, i.e. over 3 GiB.
[22:25] <ka_> ping
[22:25] <vexedemon> I'm running this full version on a 4gb jump drive ;)
[22:25] <opie> Jordan_U: yea its an 8GB
[22:25] <claviceps_> vexedemon: no, just the update; lots of ata errors too
[22:25] <vexedemon> 10.10
[22:25] <vexedemon> clav: can you PM me a few of the errors so I can analyze
[22:25] <lady_pyra> am i in the right place to ask very obtuse questions about basic usage of laptop now it has ubuntu on it?
[22:25] <claviceps_> yes, hold on
[22:26] <vexedemon> lady: sure. Whats up?
[22:26] <mickster04> lady_pyra: well try and find out
[22:26] <usr13> router te It looks like mozilla firefox looks for libjavaplugin.so in plugins
[22:26] <router> ricorx7: ok i was wrong that didnt work
[22:26] <ij_ka> ping
[22:26] <\share> I want to remove Lock Screen option from Indicator Applet Session. Is it possible?!
[22:26] <router> ok
[22:26] <usr13> router: te So, try this:
[22:27] <usr13> ln -s /usr/java/jre1.6.0_24/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /home/gayle/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[22:27] <lady_pyra> thank you!  i want to play civ.  it says it needs windows but i have wine.  i apparently still need to give permissions and i don't understand any of the instructions i can find about how to give them
[22:27] <sorush20> hi
[22:27] <\share> howdy
[22:27] <router> usr13: could you please please please type that out for a 64bit
[22:28] <sorush20> how do I remove old linux images from my grub menu and free some space on the computre?
[22:28] <\share> sorush20: go to synaptic
[22:28] <\share> search for linux-image
[22:28] <usr13> router: te: Test here:  http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
[22:28] <geoff918> @sorush20, you can remove the old files and then sudo update-grub
[22:28] <bastidrazor> lady_pyra: there is a freeciv-client-gtk in the repo's.
[22:28] <vexedemon> sorush: if you are worried about that little amount of space, you need to buy another drive. hahaha.
[22:28] <usr13> router: Oh, you're on a 64 bit system?
[22:28] <bastidrazor> sorush20: in synatpic search for linux-image and uninstall the ones you don't want.
[22:29] <router> usr13: yes
[22:29] <usr13> router: Did you download and install the 64 bit version of java?
[22:29] <router> usr13: ofc
[22:29] <usr13> router: There IS a difference
[22:29] <router> usr13: ik
[22:29] <lady_pyra> i shall see what i can find - thanks for the heads up on where to start :-)
[22:29] <usr13> router: what does ofc and ik mean?
[22:29] <Oins> Hi. I installed gnome teatime. But, how can I start it now? teatime does not work :)
[22:30] <geoff918> I'm having a problem with a program attempting to use sound. It is addressing /dev/dsp; I think I can get around the issue by symlinking to that from the usual Ubuntu address for sound hardware. However, I don't know what that is. Does anybody know what the standard address for sound hardware is in Ubuntu? (10.10)
[22:30] <vexedemon> ugh... i hate acronyms sometimes..... :s
[22:30] <ij_ka> I have 2 operating system. first i had windows. than I installed ubuntu 10.10. I took space from windows's D disc. now I have a little space for ubuntu because I moved on ubuntu. I want to know how to cut for example 10GB from D disc
[22:30] <atpa8a_> hmm
[22:30] <sorush20> geoff918: I can't beleive I forgot good old synaptic.
[22:30] <router> usr13: of course and i know
[22:30] <claviceps_> vexedemon: hmm, seems like the ata errors only apear after some uptime; now fdisk -l says "Disk identifier: 0x00000000; Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table"
[22:30] <vexedemon> geoff: there is no standard address, they are unique per card or mb.
[22:31] <usr13> router: In order to see what the exact path is, I would have to fire up my 64 bit system. (It's off now.)
[22:31] <router> usr13: ok
[22:31] <usr13> router: But will be glad to do it... if you need me to.
[22:31] <geoff918> @sorush20: In honesty, I hadn't suggested synaptic. I would have either gksu nautilus /boot...or just used the terminal
[22:31] <geoff918> @vexedemon...okay, I'll output my lspci, maybe you'll be able to tell from that?
[22:31] <router> usr13: please im desperate at this poitn
[22:31] <router> point*
[22:31] <sorush20> who needs help
[22:31] <bastidrazor> geoff918: and that is the improper way to remove kernels.
[22:32] <vexedemon> clavic: is it trying to mount the non-existant disk?
[22:32] <ij_ka> ping
[22:32] <geoff918> @bastidrazor: Fair enough, I guess I usually do it that way. I wasn't aware it was improper.
[22:32] <usr13> ok, gotta shut one down and unplug - kvm is full
[22:32] <atpa8a> any upstart gurus?.. i'm binding slapd to an ip alias and it seems that aliases come up late on boot which causes slapd fail to start... can i start networking "syncronously" or something?
[22:32] <vexedemon> geoff: its a start :)
[22:32] <claviceps_> vexedemon: no