[03:07] <Xeper> Dr_willis: Yeah -- I just wish I'd looked into this sooner.  This system is absolutely awesome, but I want to run the OS that I like on it.
[03:08] <Dr_willis> Xeper,  ive had similer things happen befor. normally i test out the various cutting edge live cd's and in a few months the disrtos catch up and get the system working.
[03:09] <soundray> Xeper: perhaps you can install to a PATA hard disk and compile a kernel with whatever possibly experimental driver you need for the SATA disks.
[03:09] <pandoras> i need the commando to switch the Channel XD im a IRC noob
[03:09] <pandoras> \j ubuntu-de
[03:09] <Kcowolf> type /join #channelname
[03:10] <ardchoille> pandoras: Which irc client?
[03:10] <pandoras> Ah! Join not J
[03:10] <Dr_willis> pandoras,  depends on the irc client. /join #channelname
[03:10] <pandoras> thx
[03:10] <Kcowolf> (replace channelname by the name of the channel)
[03:10] <Xeper> Dr_willis: Heh, yeah, I'm just being impatient with it is all.  I think this chipset's been out for a few months already -- I'm hoping that by the time the next stable release of Ubuntu is dropped, it'll be supported.
[03:10] <Mark17> hello
[03:10] <Galga> what is the name of free firewall ?
[03:10] <Galga> fireball ?
[03:10] <kestaz> firestarter
[03:10] <Nataliatuxy> please
[03:10] <kestaz> ;)
[03:10] <Galga> ok
[03:11] <Nataliatuxy> help
[03:11] <Xeper> soundray: I'd do that, but I really don't want any PATA drives in my system..
[03:11] <Galga> thanks kestaz
[03:11] <Nataliatuxy> ;(
[03:11] <mneptok> Galga: there are a few
[03:11] <Nataliatuxy> help !!!
[03:11] <soundray> Xeper: not even for as long as it takes to get it going?
[03:11] <Galga> mneptok, which one you prefer ?
[03:11] <pandoras> its a wrong channel name... "ubuntu-de"?
[03:11] <soundray> !de | pandoras
[03:11] <Xeper> soundray: When I get the SATA drive up, won't the install still be on the PATA drive?  I'm lost on that...
[03:11] <ubotu> pandoras: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:11] <pandoras> im joinet yesterday this Channel
[03:11] <ardchoille> pandoras: #ubuntu-de
[03:12] <mneptok> Galga: there's no easy answer. read up. sorry.
[03:12] <Kcowolf> it'd be /join #ubuntu-de
[03:12] <Nataliatuxy> please help
[03:12] <pandoras> with a #
[03:12] <pandoras> sorry i forget it
[03:12] <soundray> Xeper: yes, but you can transfer it and adapt /etc/fstab
[03:12] <Mark17> is there an option to change the location off the signature in evolution? it is standard at the end off the email
[03:12] <mneptok> Xeper: what SATA chipset?
[03:12] <pandoras> thx 4 help
[03:12] <Galga> ok mneptok, thanks
[03:12] <Xeper> mneptok: ATI SB600
[03:12] <Nataliatuxy> ;(
[03:12] <mneptok> Xeper: sec
[03:12] <Nataliatuxy> i need help
[03:12] <CheshireViking> !ask > Nataliatuxy
[03:13] <Xeper> soundray: Hm... sounds like that could cause lots of breakage...
[03:13] <soundray> Xeper: it could, but won't if you do it right.
[03:13] <idefix> is there anyone here who can explain to me inequality of Bell?
[03:13] <Nataliatuxy> CheshireViking, how i know my linux is hacked
[03:13] <mneptok> Xeper: oh, that's the southbridge
[03:13] <Nataliatuxy> :(
[03:13] <Kcowolf> I'm looking for vnc4server help if anyone's using it; namely, is the package in the Edgy repository still broken since the major security vulnerability was fixed?
[03:13] <Xeper> mneptok: Right, that runs the SATA, right?
[03:14] <Nataliatuxy> discovery my IP
[03:14] <Nataliatuxy> :(
[03:14] <Xeper> mneptok: Sorry if I'm a bit rusty with this stuff, I haven't been using too many computers at all over the past couple of years.
[03:14] <CheshireViking> Nataliatuxy, I don't know, I've not got an experience of checking that, your best bet is to ask here saying what indications you've got that it might have been, sorry I can't help any more than that
[03:15] <soundray> Xeper: compile a kernel .deb with the driver you need. Partition the SATA drive from the PATA installation. Copy the PATA partition contents to the SATA target with a live CD. Chroot the target system and install the kernel .deb and grub. Bob's your uncle.
[03:15] <mneptok> Xeper: do you know how to pass boot options to the kernel?
[03:15] <Nataliatuxy> CheshireViking, one user discovery my ip
[03:15] <jmampouya> jmampouya
[03:15] <Nataliatuxy> :(
[03:16] <Xeper> mneptok: In a Ubuntu install, no.  I'm coming from Gentoo
[03:16] <silya> Hi all! Xubuntu supports philip 190c monitor?
[03:16] <silya> and ubuntu too
[03:16] <Kcowolf> Nataliatuxy: Discovering your IP isn't a bad thing; your IP has to be out there for you to connect to any websites and such
[03:16] <mneptok> Xeper: press <esc> at the GRUB menu and you can edit the kernel boot parameters. does that sound familiar?
[03:16] <Kcowolf> Nataliatuxy: If the user discovered your password, then you might have a problem.
[03:17] <Xeper> mneptok: Ah, yes.
[03:17] <Nataliatuxy> Kcowolf, how i protect my password ?
[03:17] <rambo3> silya, most monitors are generic
[03:17] <Nataliatuxy> :S
[03:17] <mneptok> Xeper: try adding "acpi=force irqpoll" (no quotes)
[03:18] <Kcowolf> Nataliatuxy: 1. Choose a password you can remember but other people won't easily guess (combination of letters and numbers).  2. Don't tell anyone else what it is.
[03:18] <o_I3ooI3o> are kernel mondules symlinked ?
[03:18] <mneptok> Xeper: if that fails, try "pci=nomsi" as well
[03:18] <soundray> Nataliatuxy: print it on your business cards and hand it out at the country fair ;)
[03:19] <Nataliatuxy> Kcowolf, but if one bad boy infect with exploits and things of hackers
[03:19] <Nataliatuxy> :S
[03:19] <Nataliatuxy> ;(
[03:19] <dragonmantank> does anyone know what this would signify in auth.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10188/
[03:19] <Kcowolf> If no one has any vnc4server info, would anyone know if I can set up tightvncserver to require a new X login each time someone connects?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> Kcowolf,  thers a dozen + things you can do with vnc.. once ya learn how vnc works
[03:20] <I3ooI3oo_werking> kcowolf why not use the remote desktop ?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> Kcowolf,  vnc4server is just another vnc server variant.
[03:20] <Xeper> mneptok: Will do -- thank you.
[03:20] <mneptok> Xeper: bon chance
[03:20] <I3ooI3oo_werking> isn't tightvnc built in ?
[03:20] <Kcowolf> With remote desktop, will it require a new login each time and start a new X session, or do I need to be logged in first in order to VNC in?
[03:20] <EnsignRedshirt> dragonmantank: I don't know, but it occurred at 06:25.  Isn't that one of the default time that cron runs something?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> kde and gnome both have a remote desktop feature.
[03:21] <slacker_nl> soundray: if someone is asking how to get a root shell by the means of changing the password I would assume he or she knows what will happen when you do sudo bash/zsh
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Kcowolf,  you can always 'ssh' in and run 'vncserver' to spawn new desktops
[03:21] <dyrne> Kcowolf: you open an x session when you start vncserver for a user.  maybe i misunderstoop
[03:21] <snotch> i always just use username user and password password
[03:21] <dyrne> misunderstood ;p
[03:21] <snotch> works for me
[03:21] <Kcowolf> Nataliatuxy: Ubuntu is generally secure enough if you keep your password secure and your system up-to-date
[03:21] <slacker_nl> soundray: i'm not a babysitter :)
[03:22] <dragonmantank> EnsignRedshirt: I have cron jobs around that time, but they are all labeled CRON[####] : (pam_unix) session blah blah
[03:22] <mneptok> snotch: OMG! you're the one that HACKED ME!
[03:22] <snotch> lol
[03:22] <Nataliatuxy> Kcowolf, mmm, really 100% security?
[03:22] <Kcowolf> My problem is, I had vnc4server set up perfectly, and then I got a "RealVNC Security Vulnderability" notice from my college campus (i.e. if I didn't fix it, they'd kick me off the network).
[03:22] <dyrne>  /whois Nataliatuxy
[03:22] <slacker_nl> snotch: I use the passwd *******
[03:22] <dyrne> oops
[03:22] <slacker_nl> ;)
[03:22] <soundray> slacker_nl: would you mind joining #ubuntu-classroom to continue this?
[03:23] <pavs> username pavs password [press spacebar seven time]  :)
[03:23] <I3ooI3oo_werking> kcwolf since when do collages port probe ?
[03:23] <Nataliatuxy> dyrne,
[03:23] <moginspace> um hello I have a question about mp3 and music files and playing them
[03:23] <slacker_nl> soundray: actually, I'm about to part from here to continue working :)
[03:23] <slacker_nl> soundray: later today ok?
[03:23] <Kcowolf> Nataliatuxy: No system can guarentee 100% security, but I'd say Ubuntu is better Windows
[03:23] <I3ooI3oo_werking> working is for fools
[03:23] <I3ooI3oo_werking> or people that need money
[03:23] <soundray> slacker_nl: probably not, but I'll see you around some time.
[03:23] <snotch> slacker_nl, that's the one i used to use
[03:24] <Kcowolf> I300: well, I'm not surprised they probed that, considering one compromised computer running vnc could be used for very bad things
[03:24] <slacker_nl> soundray: yeah, i'm somewhat of a regular - We will have this discussion again :P
[03:24] <slacker_nl> snotch: hehe
[03:24] <Nataliatuxy> Kcowolf, how i see someone is " hacking " my ubuntu?
[03:24] <wastrel> is there an applet that will let me minimize thunderbird to the gnome notification area?
[03:25] <Marseleon>   ))
[03:25] <I3ooI3oo_werking> how do they know your system in vunrible ?
[03:25] <mneptok> moginspace: just ask
[03:25] <jart> is today's libxine update breaking anyone else's sound?
[03:25] <PriceChild> !en > Marseleon
[03:25] <pavs> vunrible?
[03:25] <slacker_nl> soundray: I joined #u-classroom
[03:25] <Kcowolf> I thought I read that to use remote desktop I had to be logged in physically first
[03:25] <EnsignRedshirt> pavs: Say it out loud...
[03:25] <elkbuntu> pavs he means vulnerable
[03:25] <I3ooI3oo_werking> !remotedesktop
[03:26] <moginspace> so I got this package from synaptic called mp3blaster but it doesn't run
[03:26] <slacker_nl> cheers all
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <jart> my sound is broken :(
[03:26] <moginspace> or maybe I can't find it
[03:26] <pavs> ok... :)
[03:26] <mneptok> moginspace: what do you want to do?
[03:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> !remote
[03:26] <Marseleon> PriceChild: ok
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <rausb0> moginspace: mp3blaster is a console application, you must run it in a terminal
[03:26] <jart> is there anyway to undo an update?
[03:26] <I3ooI3oo_werking> anyone feel like answering some questions ?
[03:26] <slacker_nl> I3ooI3oo_werking: RDP? use rdesktop
[03:26] <moginspace> Tried Alt + f2
[03:27] <elkbuntu> !vnc I3ooI3oo_werking
[03:27] <I3ooI3oo_werking> !rdesktop
[03:27] <rausb0> moginspace: no, open a terminal (gnome-terminal, xterm, ...)
[03:27] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[03:27] <pavs> bugtrack has a nice live cd just came out, it can help you find out if your system is vulrible :)
[03:27] <rausb0> moginspace: not just atl-f2 and mp3blaster
[03:27] <moginspace> i just opened it up, this looks intimidating lol
[03:28] <moginspace> thanks dudes
[03:28] <Marseleon> came learns english :)
[03:28] <bayziders> I installed xgl and when i logged into it it basically looked all scrambled how do i fix this?
[03:28] <I3ooI3oo_werking> never be scared of a program they can't really bully you around
[03:28] <rausb0> moginspace: you wanted mp3blaster, so don't complain :)
[03:28] <tuna-fish> I've got a really weird problem
[03:28] <moginspace> well i really would have liked a gui type one, i did a search in synaptic and that looked the most promising
[03:29] <elkbuntu> tuna-fish, please explain the problem then
[03:29] <rausb0> moginspace: so why don't you use rhythmbox, amarok or xmms?
[03:29] <pavs> i like tuna-fish some times
[03:29] <tuna-fish> when I use the computer for a while, the mousewheel and all the additional buttons on the mouse stop working. Rebooting x won't help, only rebooting the whole computer does.
[03:30] <moginspace> rhythmbox is installed, yet it doesn't seem able to play mp3s
[03:30] <rausb0> !codecs | moginspace
[03:30] <ubotu> moginspace: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <moginspace> so i went fishing in synaptic
[03:30] <poningru> you wont find it there read through what ubotu just linked you to
[03:30] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[03:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <rausb0> moginspace: mp3 is a unfree format (not free of licensing issues)
[03:31] <Dr_willis> heh- the eternal 'i want my mp3' question.
[03:31] <poningru> ...
[03:31] <rausb0> moginspace: you may try xmms, it comes with mp3 support by default
[03:31] <clever> i cant get vesa blanking to work in xscreensaver
[03:31] <b_52Centos> do you know a tool to convert from avi-->dvd ?
[03:31] <moginspace> is !codecs a package?
[03:31] <tuna-fish> rausb0: afaik there is an unlicenced implementation of mp3, but is not legal in USA due to software patents. Perfectly legal in europe though
[03:32] <moginspace> I live in Japan
[03:32] <I3ooI3oo_werking> My question:  I was installing the Nvidia driver for my older GeForce card.  version 1.9632 is the one that supports my card.  after solving all the problems with not having the dev packages for xorg and the kernel it made the modules.  Now the Kernel module is still running the 1.74XX module while xserver is using the 1.9632 how can i make my kernel use the 1.9631
[03:32] <rausb0> moginspace: !codecs is a factoid known by ubotu, the channel bot
[03:32] <dragonmantank> bah, stupid laptop
[03:32] <moginspace> oh, i see, I'll just be reading those pages now, arigatou dudes
[03:32] <SeNsEi_SaMe> hi people
[03:33] <clever> i cant get vesa blanking to work in xscreensaver
[03:33] <I3ooI3oo_werking> codecs are compression/decompression  algarythms
[03:34] <dragonmantank> regarding my auth.log issue: I'm showing all of my cron jobs as CRON[####]  (pam_unix) session <opened/closed> blah blah, the pastebin lines are ones I've never seen before, and this server has been running for almost 5 months
[03:34] <pavs> about 80% of the problems has to do with either video car or wireless network. i hope fiesty fixes most of the problem by default
[03:35] <jessid> Hello
[03:35] <I3ooI3oo_werking> anyone ?
[03:35] <I3ooI3oo_werking> hello jessid
[03:35] <Dr_willis> i think if they fixed all the wirless problems.. the next generation of wireless cards will add more problems
[03:36] <jessid> how do I convert aa WAW to mp3 ? i am trying to use soundkonverter...but....pufff
[03:36] <jessid> doesnt work
[03:36] <jessid> even i have the codecs installed
[03:36] <rausb0> jessid: lame file.wav file.mp3
[03:37] <poningru> hehe
[03:37] <poningru> or you know audacity
[03:37] <jessid> rausb0 oh man thanks!
[03:37] <pavs> i had problems with three differant wireless cards, finally i got fedup and installed netgear 511t which works out of the box with no configuration whatsoever, but i had to spend almost 80 bucks.
[03:38] <ucordes> Dr_willis: are you talking about 802.11n?
[03:38] <kleinweby> hello, i have ubuntu on a macbook with my own kernel. It works fine. And Standby works too. But since some days standby dosnt work. Whenn i wak up my macbook i can see the cruser and can move it. But ther are nothing other, all black. I think gdm restarts always, then i hear the start sound. So now i look into the gdm log file an found this error http://rafb.net/p/E7dgFl51.html can anybody help me? (:
[03:39] <rausb0> pavs: blame the card manufacturers for not giving information which chipset is in their card
[03:39] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  i cant even keep up any more. :)
[03:39] <I3ooI3oo_werking> My question:  I was installing the Nvidia driver for my older GeForce card.  version 1.9632 is the one that supports my card.  after solving all the problems with not having the dev packages for xorg and the kernel it made the modules.  Now the Kernel module is still running the 1.74XX module while xserver is using the 1.9632 how can i make my kernel use the 1.9631
[03:39] <Dr_willis> ucordes,  ive given up and ran wires..
[03:40] <I3ooI3oo_werking> not asking for a solution just help finding where the modules are stored
[03:40] <ucordes> Dr_willis: for home use i have wires too
[03:40] <joh> Right, gnome is broken in Feisty atm :P
[03:40] <PriceChild> joh, > #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <joh> PriceChild: Ok, thanks
[03:41] <Xeper1> mneptok: Running into a problem -- I guess it can see the disks when I pass those parameters, but when I try to partition it, it comes up with the following error: No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu.  <Go Back> <Continue> -- and neither of the buttons works :P
[03:41] <matju> is VT6212L known to work with Ubuntu 6.06 ? (else, does it work with 6.10 ?)
[03:41] <matju> VT6212L is a PCI<->USB adapter
[03:41] <Demetrious> Using Feisty, is there a know problem with Network-Manager, that shows no connection even though there is one? The workstation with such problem has two NICs (non-wireless), one not connected, the other one hardwired with a static IP. There is connectivity, yet, Network-Manager says it isn't. That is caussing Evolution to start in offline mode. Help anyone?
[03:42] <wastrel> feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <bayziders> can any one help me with my xgl problem?
[03:44] <nilson> Hi, just restarted my system and get this message when I try to use `sudo`.
[03:45] <dyrne> !xgl | bayziders
[03:45] <ubotu> bayziders: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:45] <nilson> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 0 <<<
[03:45] <jrib> nilson: did you edit /etc/sudoers?
[03:45] <nilson> no
[03:45] <nilson> The system has been running for 6 months now, power blip caused a reboot and now that doesnt work.
[03:45] <jrib> nilson: did you ever set a root password?
[03:46] <nilson> No I Don't have one... was wondering how to get into single0user mode
[03:46] <lazzo> .:::]  Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. BuTT3rF|y sCr|pTrEvOLuTiOnZv3.1.5
[03:46] <lazzo> !list
[03:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:46] <jrib> nilson: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[03:46] <nilson> what should the sudoers file look like
[03:46] <bayziders> dyrne: I've been there my problem is not listed.
[03:46] <jrib> nilson: what version of ubuntu?
[03:47] <nilson> Edgy
[03:47] <nilson> ...I guess. The latest release.
[03:47] <jrib> would any edgy user like to pastebin /etc/sudoers for nilson ?
[03:47] <poningru> nilson: yarr
[03:47] <Slart> I'm on it
[03:47] <nilson> sup on
[03:47] <poningru> nilson: whats wrong dude?
[03:47] <nilson> poningru, *
[03:48] <poningru> lol
[03:48] <nilson> poningru, sudo f-d itself up
[03:48] <poningru> eek
[03:48] <poningru> is it a time issue?
[03:48] <nilson> cant parse /etc/sudoers after a power-off reboot
[03:48] <Slart> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10190/
[03:48] <poningru> hmm
[03:49] <omkar86> hi, im using xubuntu. how to change the default gtk theme? and where to download new themes
[03:49] <franfemore> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:50] <I3ooI3oo_werking> slart: did you edit on a winpc ?
[03:50] <KomiaPoika> hi, cups says my printer is not ready, and when i try to start it, it asks for login and password. i put in login and password from root, but it refuses it. whats wrong?
[03:50] <franfemore> mjiuloi lnokjikmimk
[03:50] <UB`> omkar86 system-preferences-themes
[03:50] <franfemore> aaaajfowhsjvxiutrutuhyuig8e8uyhruherufguguirgfuigt5uifguirguiguifggfiuhguirfuidguigf
[03:50] <KomiaPoika> sure
[03:50] <Slart> I3ooI3oo_werking: eh.. a winpc??
[03:50] <dyrne> omkar86: use gnome themes i normally just unpack then then sudo mv theme/ /usr/share/themes/
[03:50] <UB`> try looking at gnome-look.org for themes
[03:50] <omkar86> ok
[03:51] <UB`> dyrne it isnt needed unpack the theme just drag&drop in the theme selection windows
[03:53] <I3ooI3oo_werking> If you edit teh sudoers file on a Windows OS you will get problems with the LF-CF at the end of each line
[03:53] <sam__> hello
[03:53] <Slart> I3ooI3oo_werking: my sudoers file works fine.. I was just showing what it looks like to Nilson..
[03:53] <PriceChild> UB`, that should work
[03:53] <PriceChild> hi sam__
[03:54] <sam__> hi
[03:55] <Wanderer> Anyone using mt-daap?
[03:56] <moginspace> Have a question for anyone using MPlayer; error: requested audio codec family [mp3]  (fm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation.  this error comes up yet it plays mp3 files and dvds
[03:59] <moginspace> correction said "[mp3] (afm=mp3lib) not available" I forgot to type the "a"
[03:59] <bayziders> whats with all the people leaving?
[04:01] <MarioLink> ciao
[04:01] <MarioLink> !lista
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <genii> interesting, in offtopic, this jus popped up a minute ago but sees like not here or #kubuntu   <ubotu>	New on planetubuntu: Mark Van den Borre: Dell asks us which distro to support <http://blog.markvdb.be/2007/03/dell-asks-us-which-distro-to-support.html>    Anyhow, for those wishing to push Dell towards Ubuntu
[04:03] <I3ooI3oo_werking> 1
[04:03] <Supre_Me> hey! I just downloaded a .package file and I don't seem to be able to open it. sh packagename.package won't work and clicking on the icon just opens a text editor.
[04:03] <rambo3> can we people that hate dell vote ?
[04:03] <apokryphos> !offtopic
[04:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:04] <I3ooI3oo_werking> My question:  I was installing the Nvidia driver for my older GeForce card.  version 1.9632 is the one that supports my card.  after solving all the problems with not having the dev packages for xorg and the kernel it made the modules.  Now the Kernel module is still running the 1.74XX module while xserver is using the 1.9632 how can i make my kernel use the 1.9631
[04:05] <clust> Hi! "/etc/init.d/networking restart" works fine until I try to do this from a python script. it says: "Reconfigureing network interfaces... [OK] " but the interfaces are down.
[04:05] <JuJuBee> poningru : OK, installed windows and it works fine.  I think it must be linux support for the sata/ide controller.
[04:05] <clust> Can anybody help me?
[04:05] <genii> apokryphos: Sorry :) But I figured it was good enough to copy into here and #kubuntu for those who want to know
[04:05] <I3ooI3oo_werking> with what clust ?
[04:06] <ardchoille> clust: Are you using 'sudo' in that python script to do /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[04:07] <dyrne> clust: id do a check first then error if user does run with root priv
[04:08] <clust> the script runs under root privileges.
[04:08] <whatspy> hi, I need to keep 2 ubuntu servers' clocks synchronized, what's the right service to use? NTP sounds like it's for synchronizing clients with the server: that's not what I need here
[04:08] <docteur_klein> hello !
[04:08] <clever> whatspy: im using ntp to sync 3 comps to a centeral server which syncs itself to the web
[04:08] <dragonmantank> whatspy: NTP will work fine. Have one update to the internet, and the other server update to server 1
[04:08] <godd4242> alright boyos
[04:08] <techie__> Can anybody tell me what's the terminal command to find out which sound card I am using?
[04:08] <Slart> whatspy: why not keep both servers on right time with ntp.. using an outside server
[04:08] <godd4242> whats the link to beryl support chat?
[04:08] <clever> whatspy: you can probly use it in a sealed system with no external reference but it wont exactly be correct
[04:08] <godd4242> anyone?
[04:09] <docteur_klein> @techie
[04:09] <Pici> godd4242: #ubuntu-effects
[04:09] <Slart> godd4242: have you checked google?
[04:09] <docteur_klein> lspci | grep snd
[04:09] <docteur_klein> or smthg like that
[04:09] <clever> Slart: having several computers syncing to an external server can become a problem if your on a low bandwitdh or with alot of local servers
[04:10] <rambo3> lshw -C sound
[04:10] <techie__> How do I figure which sound card is installed in here?
[04:10] <Slart> clever: oh? I didn't think ntp was that bandwidth/resource demanding..
were you talking to me about the sound?
[04:11] <clever> Slart: yeah it might not use much but if you are paying per the byte used and you have 500 clients....
[04:11] <rambo3> no but i guess it will work for you
thanks
[04:12] <ucordes> !grub
[04:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:12] <Slart> clever: if you have 50 clients and yet paying per byte.. well.. for one thing you've got a weird network setup.. or you're on an oilrig or something =)
[04:12] <clever> Slart: :P i know i was pushing the limits
[04:12] <clever> Slart: i have <20 computers and unlimited bandwidhth 150 down max
somehow it worked but gave me a warning that I should use this as a superuser!
[04:13] <clust> dyrne, ardchoille: The same problem if I try to use ifup from python: "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[04:13] <clever> Slart: i can use 0 bytes a month or i can max it to 150 all month long and the bill wont move an inch
[04:13] <Slart> clever: but having a local ntp-server is still doable.. I've had a server for 50 clients and I never had any problems.. didn't even notice the ntp-service
[04:13] <Slart> clever: =)
[04:13] <clust> dyrne, ardchoille: but ifup from bash shell works fine
[04:13] <lestat> hi all
[04:13] <clever> Slart: my ntp server is on a 133mhz and its feeding 3 clients atm
[04:13] <rambo3> techie__, it just prints out all info about your card , soud wont give more info on soud ,
[04:13] <TangledUpInBlue> Anyone know where i can download a Lotus notes client for Ubuntu?  My Network admin has it but he is out ofi the office for the week
[04:13] <clever> Slart: and my load avg is 0.0
[04:13] <variant> clever: what isp do you have?
[04:14] <clever> aliant
[04:14] <variant> clever: that a US isp?
[04:14] <dyrne> clust: im not sure about that id post the question in #python as well
[04:14] <clever> canadian
[04:14] <variant> clever: i see, you should be carefull with the bandwidth regardless of what they say, if you really do max it out 100% of the time they will eventually ask you to stop or pay extra (most likely)
[04:15] <cypherdelic> I cant watch Movies in Fullscreen, please help, als GL-Apps dont work in fullscreen, they all appear BLACK
I am using SBlive, but somehow my soundRecorder does not record voice.. Should I need additonal audio codecs or install other drivers on top of what I have? Any ideas?
[04:15] <clever> variant: yeah posibly but i have yet to get bit torrent or other to be able to max it 150 for even 5hours in a row:P
[04:15] <variant> cypherdelic: using beryl/compiz?
[04:15] <rambo3> techie__, use alsamixer to increse sound input
[04:15] <clever> Slart:  15:13:59 up 10 days,  1:04,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
I already have that check on the sound control.
[04:16] <quaal> what do we use to burn .vob dvd files to a dvd disc ?
[04:16] <variant> quaal: k3b is nice
[04:16] <cypherdelic> variant. beryl, but i tried compiz, its the same
[04:16] <quaal> variant, ok
[04:16] <variant> quaal: actualy, k3b is awesome.
[04:16] <quaal> thanks
[04:16] <variant> cypherdelic: and you have either ati card with the free drivers or an onboard intel card right?
[04:16] <clever> yeah k3b is the only prog that can burn data dvd;s so far
[04:16] <clust>  16:11:47 up 225 days,  6:08,  4 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00
[04:16] <clever> havent tryed any others
[04:17] <clever> clust: i beat you for lowest loadvg but you beat me for uptime:P
[04:17] <quaal> clever, data dvd's ?
[04:17] <cypherdelic> variant: no i have Nvidia 7600 Go
[04:17] <quaal> what other kind of dvd is there
[04:17] <quaal> audio ?
[04:17] <clever> quaal: video dvd
[04:17] <clust> clever: ;)
[04:17] <variant> cypherdelic: it is a known issue with the dri drivers and aiglx.
[04:17] <Slart> clever: mm.. same as my home server.. does ntp, backups, file server, router, teamspeak.. and still 0.00 0.00 0.00
[04:17] <quaal> clever, thats what i'm trying to do. burn the .vob files of a dvd on my HD
[04:17] <variant> cypherdelic: ah, in that case try changing the output mode of the video player to x11
[04:17] <clever> but a video dvd is more of just a data with specialy named files
[04:17] <quaal> yea
[04:17] <Slart> clever: I think I'll replace it with a miniitx system soon
[04:17] <clust> clever:  I try to kick my users, maybe I beat you after ;)
[04:18] <cypherdelic> variant. no matter if i use force nvidia or force aiglx, its both the same
[04:18] <variant> clever: thats not true...
[04:18] <tomw> is anyone aware of an update that would cause DHCPSISCOVER to be having problems?
[04:18] <rambo3> techie__, i dont know more about that, you can check alsa page for your module and see how it should be done
[04:18] <clever> Slart: my main router pc is just for ntp/dhcp/router/dns cache and no file serving
[04:18] <variant> cypherdelic: chang ethe video output mode o fyour movie player to x11
[04:18] <variant> as i said
[04:18] <cypherdelic> variant: Xine now closes immidiately
[04:18] <cypherdelic> i cant even change settings
[04:18] <variant> cypherdelic: try mplayer -vo x11 /path/to/file.avi/mpeg/whatever
[04:19] <variant> cypherdelic: or vlc
[04:19] <clever> Slart: it allmost never needs to access the internal harddrive i think
[04:19] <cypherdelic> and what about my GL-Games like foobillard? variant
[04:19] <variant> cypherdelic: lets fix one thing at a time.
[04:19] <Rooy> !vi
[04:19] <Slart> clever: I was thinking of using a flash card for hard drive.. just to get rid of the hard drive
[04:19] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[04:19] <clever> Slart: i didnt have a flash card when i started making that box
[04:19] <variant> cypherdelic: and this is one of the reassons that beryl/compiz is not included by default on feisty
[04:19] <troughton> can enyone help me after some resent updates i lost my graphics and had to reinstall the xorg-server but i now have no vertual terminals can anyone help ??
[04:20] <clever> and i didnt even know of that idea then
[04:20] <clever> Slart: but ive seen stuff for making a 100% silent system using a flash card
[04:20] <variant> cypherdelic: it will probably be that you have to change back to metacity when viewing videos
[04:20] <clever> Slart: with 0 moving parts in the entire pc
[04:20] <variant> cypherdelic: easy enough with beryl-manager loaded
[04:20] <cypherdelic> variant: uh thants bad, hopefully it will be fixed till final
[04:20] <cypherdelic> beryl rocks
[04:20] <variant> cypherdelic: indeed
[04:21] <clust> Slart, clever: VIA Samuel processors are able to run without FAN.
[04:21] <Slart> clever: I've seen a CF to IDE converter.. 10$ perhaps.. then you could use it as a normal hard drive
[04:21] <variant> cypherdelic: does the video load and go fullscreen with mplayer -vo x11?
[04:21] <clever> clust: this was a large heatpipe+large sink
[04:21] <Slart> clust: mm.. I think almost all of their models are available as fanless
[04:21] <cypherdelic> i actualy havent got it installed
[04:21] <variant> !offtopic
[04:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:21] <clever> Slart: ive seen tons of pages about those
[04:21] <I3ooI3oo_werking> Slart : you are right you can get a CFdisk.1e for 10 buck is IDA adapter for CF cards
[04:21] <cypherdelic> i installed vlc first variant
[04:21] <Slart> yes, sorry variant
[04:21] <variant> cypherdelic: please try with mplayer
[04:22] <troughton> can enyone help me after some resent updates i lost my graphics and had to reinstall the xorg-server but i now have no vertual terminals can anyone help ??
[04:22] <I3ooI3oo_werking> We use them at werk for a Dos HDD
[04:22] <variant> Slart: no need to apologies
[04:22] <I3ooI3oo_werking> since we only need about 7 meg
[04:22] <cypherdelic> variant: vlc closes when i switch to fullscreen
[04:22] <variant> cypherdelic: please try with mplayer
[04:23] <dyrne> troughton: you cant alt-ctrl-f2? what happens if you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop does it drop you to a getty login?
[04:23] <clever> Slart: ive seen a diff ram based hdd idea which used regular ram chips on a pci card and batery backup
[04:23] <Slart> sooo.. back to ubuntu.. anyone know how I can get some other video-mode during boot up?
[04:23] <troughton> when i alt-ctrl-f2 nothing happens
[04:23] <cypherdelic> variant: i willt try but first i will install that new kernel 2.6.20-10
[04:23] <Slart> clever: mm. I've seen those too.. but that setup cost a little bit more I think
[04:23] <variant> cypherdelic: as you please
[04:24] <cypherdelic> variant: thanks for your help so far
[04:24] <clever> Slart: yeah but the guy was surprised that the fully silent box performed better then his gaming box
[04:24] <troughton> dyrne its a dead swith
[04:24] <troughton> swich
[04:24] <Slart> clever: =)
[04:24] <variant> cypherdelic: np
[04:24] <clever> Slart: then theres the turning it on and not hearing anything problem which normaly means its busted:P
[04:25] <dyrne> troughton: gotta get back to work sorry
[04:25] <dxdt> Anyone in here use ubuntu server?  how do you like it compared to other server distros?
[04:26] <variant> Slart: you can see a list of ubuntu boot parameters in /boot/menu.lst iirc
[04:26] <variant> Slart: you can see a list of ubuntu boot parameters in /boot/grub/menu.lst iirc
[04:26] <variant> correction
[04:26] <Slart> variant: hm.. I'll have a look.. thanks
[04:27] <troughton> can enyone help me after some resent updates i lost my graphics and had to reinstall the xorg-server but i now have no vertual terminals can anyone help ??
[04:28] <variant> Slart: for example: vga=###
[04:28] <miilunpolttaj1> hello
[04:28] <Slart> variant: mm.. now I just need to figure out what the different values mean.
[04:29] <miilunpolttaj1> does anyone have an Amilo D 1840 ? or any amilo?
[04:29] <rambo3> troughton, after gdm ?
[04:29] <miilunpolttaj1> i'm wondering if I could rotate my main cooling fan
[04:30] <miilunpolttaj1> turn it upside down
[04:30] <chris69> amilo pa1538
[04:30] <miilunpolttaj1> i can't see the logic in the hot air going under the lappy
[04:30] <PriceChild> miilunpolttaj1, but then it would blow the air the wrong way?
[04:31] <troughton> i am new to linux rambo3 all i know is i did some updates restarted had a graphics error reinstalled xorg-server to fix the problem and then pressed alt-ctrl-f1 to install the graphics drivers and nothing happend
[04:31] <tienbkit> hello
[04:31] <tienbkit> are you here
[04:31] <PriceChild> Hi
[04:31] <Rooy> !hi |tienbkit
[04:31] <ubotu> tienbkit: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:32] <chris69> my air is blown out to the right, very annyoing because it hits my hand
[04:32] <tienbkit> oh, i'm very happy when jion in ubuntu
[04:32] <[BTF] Chm0d> [BTF] Chm0d is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[04:32] <Rooy> tienbkit: :D
[04:32] <tienbkit> i think it is very good
[04:32] <miilunpolttaj1> chris69 do you have overheating problems?
[04:32] <M1kRoT1K> anyone know how to see cam on YM
[04:32] <wolferine> how can I output how much memory I have (RAM) ?
[04:32] <shatrat> miilunpolttaj1, I suspect if you switch it so the bottom is the intake youll have problems with it sucking up crumbs and string and mice and stuff.
[04:32] <M1kRoT1K> with ubuntu
[04:32] <variant> wolferine: free -m
[04:32] <wolferine> M1kRoT1K: logitech?
[04:32] <chris69> miilunpolttaj1: no, but i have to heat it up to 55C before the fan stops
[04:32] <PriceChild> M1kRoT1K, not a feature in linux YM afaik
[04:33] <variant> wolferine: and vmstat
[04:33] <wolferine> thanks
[04:33] <PriceChild> !away > Cc2iscooL
[04:33] <rambo3> troughton, more info . restart the computer then what happends?
[04:33] <runge> hi I am having problem with ubutnu and dvi. I just connected dvi and it does not work, only avg works (though restarting you see same display on dvi and vga before you finaly login)
[04:33] <variant> wolferine: or cat /proc/meminfo
[04:33] <wolferine> hmmm
[04:33] <shatrat> wolferine, you can see more with "cat /proc/meminfo"
[04:33] <M1kRoT1K> wolferine: to see other cam from our buddies
[04:33] <PriceChild> _I3ooI3oowerking, Please don't irc as root!!!
[04:33] <wolferine> yeah, thats not showing it, the way I was hoping
[04:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> I'm back from the game!
[04:33] <tienbkit> can you compare Qt programing and other programing? it is the first time i using Qt .....
[04:33] <miilunpolttaj1> sigh. I guess the only solution is a new lappy
[04:33] <variant> wolferine: what exactly do you want to see?
[04:33] <troughton> blue screen said grahics did not load would you like to read log to diagnose problem
[04:34] <wolferine> mem info
[04:34] <MostKnown53> is this the help channel?
[04:34] <wolferine> i got it
[04:34] <variant> wolferine: cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTo
[04:34] <PriceChild> MostKnown53, yes
[04:34] <MostKnown53> ok thx
[04:34] <wolferine> then /exec -a will post to channel?
[04:35] <variant> wolferine: /exec -o and thats a good idea if you want to get kicked (be very carefull what you output to the channel
[04:35] <wolferine> MemTotal:      3116588 kB
[04:35] <wolferine> yeah, its just the one line
[04:35] <variant> wolferine: single lines are fine of course
[04:35] <wolferine> used grep
[04:35] <bayziders> I'm trying to upgrade to edgy and i got a Failed to fetch http://givre.cabspace.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz 302 Found error
[04:35] <wolferine> thanks variant :P
[04:35] <variant> wolferine: yw
[04:35] <PriceChild> bayziders, please uncomment 3rd party repos
[04:35] <PriceChild> !upgrade | bayziders
[04:35] <ubotu> bayziders: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:36] <MostKnown53> i am a windows user how do i get software for ubuntu
[04:36] <bayziders> How do i uncomment them?
[04:36] <MasseR> apt-get
[04:36] <bayziders> uhh k
[04:36] <wolferine> MostKnown53: you can download the .iso and burn it
[04:36] <MasseR> MostKnown53: Try the add-remove :)
[04:36] <wolferine> MostKnown53: are you familiar with FTP?
[04:36] <MostKnown53> yes
[04:36] <slavik> The following Xorg config does not get me bigdesktop mode :( http://rafb.net/p/bygF3554.html
[04:36] <variant> MostKnown53: click system > administration > synaptic package manager
[04:36] <zOap> how do I get my touchpad to use the bottom part of the pad to scroll left/right? Now it only does back/forw in firefox...
[04:36] <PriceChild> !apt | MostKnown53
[04:36] <ubotu> MostKnown53: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:36] <MostKnown53> i already have the install cd they sent me one in the main
[04:36] <variant> MostKnown53: and select what you want to install/uninstall from there
[04:36] <wolferine> there are many FTP sites to grab the .iso
[04:37] <wolferine> you may want to get both the .iso (standard) AND the alternative
[04:37] <CheshireViking> MostKnown53, do you you mean how do you download an Ubuntu cd to install, or you want to install specific software on a computer that has got Ubuntu already installed?
[04:38] <MostKnown53> just general software to install
[04:38] <bayziders> how do i uncomment them
[04:38] <PriceChild> bayziders, delete them or put a # in front of them
[04:38] <wolferine> bayziders: uncomment what?
[04:38] <variant> PriceChild: you mean remove the # from the front.. not delete them
[04:38] <bayziders> 3rd partty repos
[04:38] <variant> PriceChild: he wants to _uncomment_ them
[04:39] <dxdt> MostKnown53, the trick is that with Ubuntu, programs come in "packages" packages can be installed different ways.  Synaptic is a graphical point and click way of doing it.  apt-get is a command line way of doing it.  For example, if you wanted to install a program called abiword, you could open Synaptic and then find the program in that by searching and clicking install.  Another example would be if you wanted to download the latest version of Skype.  yo
[04:39] <dxdt> u could download the most recent version from their website, and double click the .deb file you downloaded.  The Gdebi installer should pop up and help you finish the install (which is basically next next finish)
[04:39] <PriceChild> bayziders, variant whoops, earlier I meant "comment or delete"
[04:39] <wolferine> remove the # as that makes the entire line a "comment"
[04:39] <variant> PriceChild: lol
[04:39] <PriceChild> bayziders, so you want to put a # before it or delete them :)
[04:39] <wolferine> u trying to confuse everyone Price :P
[04:39] <ZeZu> can anyone tell me if one can access the pci bus directly w/o writing a device driver in linux ?
[04:39] <bayziders> okay but where do i do this?
[04:40] <dxdt> I remember being so confused about how programs installed in linux the first time I switched.  It just made no sense to me lol
[04:40] <wolferine> bayziders: in the file
[04:40] <MostKnown53> ok i am a linux noob i dont even kno how to get my printer to work so the gui program would be better for me
[04:40] <bayziders> which is where >>
[04:40] <wolferine> dxdt ubuntu is much better
[04:40] <goetiaoccultus> What would I use to encrypt files or folders in ubuntu
[04:40] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: You can use gnupg for that and seahorse is a nice gui for gnupg.
[04:41] <ardchoille> !gnupg
[04:41] <ubotu> gnupg: GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu3.3 (edgy), package size 1031 kB, installed size 4784 kB
[04:41] <clearzen> Can you use a lightscribe drive under ubuntu?
[04:41] <Vilhelms> How can I reset the alsa device? I get the following error whenever I try to play an audio file: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy
[04:41] <ochosi> i have a tvout-question. my card (ati rage128) is rather old, i use composite out to a tv and it works in bios and console. but as soon as xserver starts (or even bootsplash) the tv gets no signal anymore. any ideas on how to config the xorg.conf?
[04:41] <goetiaoccultus> ardchoille: thanks , is it easy on the command line
[04:41] <kristjan_> what's the vga= for 1280x800 framebuffer, or does usplash only support standard 4:3 aspect ratio?
[04:41] <dxdt> wolferine, well yeah.  That's why I run Ubuntu now.  I started on Fedora core something.... I didn't even know RPM's existed.  I would build, or try to build, everything!  I tried to build apache from source, etc.  It was terrible haha.  Then I found RPM.  I complained about rpm in a room once.  Someone pointed me to Debian and from there I bounced to Ubuntu
[04:41] <variant> clearzen: afaik, there is an sdk available. not sure what programs implement the feature though
[04:41] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: Sure: sudo apt-get install seahorse
[04:41] <quaal> ok the dvd i just burned with k3b goves "no disc" in my dvd player
[04:41] <slavik> The following Xorg config does not get me bigdesktop mode :( http://rafb.net/p/bygF3554.html
[04:41] <wolferine> nice
[04:42] <quaal> and it appears to be freezing vlc media player on the htpc
[04:42] <goetiaoccultus> thanks
[04:42] <quaal> what the hell
[04:42] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: Once installed, seahorse will appear under Applications -> Accessories -> Encryption Key Manager
[04:42] <f00bar> hey
[04:42] <f00bar> genii: here?
[04:43] <genii> f00bar: Yup
[04:43] <quaal> variant, clever ?
[04:43] <goetiaoccultus> k , will that allow me to make keys for my email account
[04:43] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: Yes
[04:43] <goetiaoccultus> cool
[04:43] <f00bar> genii: ERROR: The PHP binary coming with ISPConfig does not work properly on your system!  I don't like them to get showed evry startup
[04:44] <Symmetria> heh
[04:44] <variant> clearzen: there seems to be a proprietry program that allows you to do it on linux
[04:44] <quaal> variant, looks like its playing fine in totem on ubuntu
[04:45] <bayziders> here is my list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10197/ what do i comment out?
[04:45] <variant> clearzen: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10803
[04:45] <variant> quaal: good
[04:45] <Vilhelms> How can I reset the alsa device? I get the following error whenever I try to play an audio file: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy
[04:45] <Symmetria> heh one of the universities here... I have to laugh... for years they ran an opensource mail system, with opensource imap etc, and it worked
[04:45] <quaal> variant, but the point of burning it on dvd is not to only play it on ubuntu.. i want it to run on my dvd player.. or the windows htpc at the very least
[04:45] <Symmetria> then they decided they dont trust opensource, its not well enough supported, blah blah so they put in novell groupwise
[04:45] <Symmetria> now, its completely STUFFED and they are in big trouble
[04:46] <Symmetria> cause groupwise is a complete ballsup
[04:46] <variant> quaal: if it plays on ubuntu then it is a correctly burned disk. if the other devices can't play it thats their fault
[04:46] <ardchoille> bayziders: What are you trying to do?
[04:46] <quaal> variant, hmm
[04:46] <clearzen> variant:thanks
[04:46] <slavik> The following Xorg config does not get me bigdesktop mode :( http://rafb.net/p/bygF3554.html
[04:46] <wolferine> how do you connect to another server in xchat-gnome?
[04:47] <variant> wolferine: /newserver
[04:47] <Azoff> hello
[04:47] <wolferine> (/server -m irc.newserver.org ) ?
[04:47] <wolferine> thanks
[04:47] <Vilhelms> How can I reset the alsa device? I get the following error whenever I try to play an audio file: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy
[04:47] <sidny4> what file do I have to edit in order to enable passwordless login?
[04:47] <Symmetria> errr passwordless login?
[04:48] <rambo3> gdm settings
[04:48] <Symmetria> what for?
[04:48] <slavik> sidny4: System->Administration-> Login Screen
[04:48] <slavik> should have it
[04:48] <Rooy> sidny4: in system --> adgdmsetup
[04:48] <variant> sidny4: select it from the menu, you don't need to edit a file
[04:48] <Rooy> sidny4: gdmsetup
[04:48] <sidny4> ok
[04:48] <ZeZu> can anyone tell me what package lspci is in ?
[04:48] <variant> ZeZu: pciutils
[04:48] <Azoff> I am about to try to custumize a kernelimage, but if I remove suspend, or ACPI, or Hotplug support, the kernel complains about missing symbols in libata, is this a known problem with stock source?
[04:48] <ZeZu> thanks
[04:48] <variant> ZeZu: or pci-utils.. whichever
[04:49] <variant> ZeZu: don't forget to run update-pciids when you installed it
[04:49] <Galga> how can i install a latest version of an application. For example apt-get install amsn, installs an old version. After installation it asks for installing the latest version which is 0.95-2.1
[04:49] <variant> ZeZu: otherwise you might get a load of "unkonwn device"
[04:49] <Galga> i have tried sudo apt-get update amsn, but it doesn't help
[04:50] <Azoff> (it's the linux-source-2.6.15 from dapper (server installation))
[04:50] <sharkp> hi
[04:50] <Azoff> sharkp: hello
[04:50] <sharkp> I need help about xsane
[04:50] <Rooy> hi sharkp
[04:50] <PriceChild> Galga, ubuntu is based around a release system. We freeze the distribution before release with stable packages. These don't get updated unless there are critical security fixes or major bugs.
[04:50] <PriceChild> Galga, is there any reason you want a higher version of amsn?
[04:50] <Vilhelms> How can I reset the alsa device? I get the following error whenever I try to play an audio file: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA snd_pcm_open error: Device or resource busy
[04:50] <Slart> Galga: apt-get only installs the version in the repos.. software end up in the repository when it's checked so it doesn't conflict with other programs etc.. so the version in the repository will usually be older
[04:50] <shatrat> Galga, it will only install the newest version in the repository.  If you want an even newer version youll have to find a 3rd party repository, compile the program yourself or find a .deb package somewhere for your distro
[04:50] <sharkp> Azoff, when I'm scanning an image
[04:51] <ZeZu> variant, i grabbed the -dev package
[04:51] <sharkp> Is there the possibility to choose only a part of the image?
[04:51] <goetiaoccultus> ardchoille: do i have to restart x or something , i made a key first off but im not getting options on my folders or files to encrypt
[04:51] <Galga> PriceChild, NO. I thought the request for update will be due to some purpose behind it
[04:51] <variant> ZeZu: why?
[04:51] <ZeZu> variant, i'm looking to get the source to lspci so i can see how it accesses pci
[04:51] <Azoff> sharkp: sorry mate, donno
[04:51] <gumpish> Arg... I reinstalled on one of my hosts and now ssh gives me the "man in the middle" warning - I want to remove the old entry from my knownhosts file, but  how do I tell them apart? They all look like garbage.
[04:51] <Galga> thanks Slart
[04:51] <variant> ZeZu: i see
[04:51] <ZeZu> there is no -src but -dev doesn't seem to contain the source either
[04:51] <sharkp> Azoff, what??
[04:51] <PriceChild> Galga, if we kept updating the repos... we'd make things unstable :)
[04:52] <Galga> PriceChild, if its ok to stay with older version and no need to install the latest than, well i will stay with it
[04:52] <dsquare> how do i create a folder in my ETC folder? i dont have permissions!!
[04:52] <sharkp> excuse me my bad slang comprehension... :D
[04:52] <variant> ZeZu: http://mj.ucw.cz/pciutils.shtml
[04:52] <PriceChild> !sudo | dsquare
[04:52] <ubotu> dsquare: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:52] <Galga> PriceChild, ok thanks
[04:52] <ZeZu> variant, thanks
[04:52] <PriceChild> dsquare, any reason why you want to make a folder in /etc ?
[04:52] <variant> ZeZu: the download link fromt here is the src
[04:52] <PriceChild> dsquare, be very careful int here..
[04:52] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: You should get an Encrypt option when right clicking a file or folder in nautilus. Try restarting nautilus
[04:52] <PriceChild> Galga, you can still compile your own from source if you want
[04:52] <dsquare> PriceChild, i need to create a TOR folder to use TOR proxies..
[04:52] <lestat> !osd
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <PriceChild> !tor > dsquare
[04:53] <Symmetria> heh I must admit, Im quite suprised at how low the churn in the packages are in ubuntu, it certainly makes maintaing the mirrors easier
[04:53] <Azoff> sharkp: don't know anything about xsane
[04:53] <Galga> PriceChild, i m new to linux.
[04:53] <dsquare> !tor | dsquare
[04:53] <PriceChild> dsquare, As well at it being not too good... you don't need to create that folder in ubuntu... the package installs fine
[04:53] <sharkp> Azoff, ah,ok!
[04:53] <sharkp> who can help me?
[04:53] <dsquare> ok.. i dont have any idea how PriceChild.. can you tell me where to start please??
[04:53] <PriceChild> dsquare, whoops... not that one... this one....
[04:53] <sharkp> who can help me about xsane?
[04:53] <sharkp> !xsane
[04:53] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[04:54] <PriceChild> dsquare, there's a howto on the forums for installing tor... but I don't see why you'd want to :)
[04:55] <Mark17> is it possible to see what gateway i use when i'm on a server and where can i change the gateway (ubuntu)?
[04:55] <dsquare> PriceChild, uhmm i will just say that my intentions are pure. :\ ill check the forums thanks :)
[04:55] <PriceChild> dsquare, i'll find it for you
[04:56] <gumpish> doh - to answer my own question the warning actually says which line the offending key is in.
[04:56] <goetiaoccultus> ardchoille: ah there we go just typed nautilus -q and now it works thanks :)
[04:57] <espen> have anyone experienced that when you are about to install ubuntu 6.10, it takes some time to load, and then suddenly you get a blank screen where you can type, but no commmands work?
[04:57] <espen> im having seriuos trouble with it..
[04:57] <mads-> I have Gravis Gamepad - anyone know anything about it? Because it just wont work :S
[04:57] <ardchoille> goetiaoccultus: :)
[04:57] <Galga> PriceChild, amsn fails to start. I have purged the previous installation and done a fresh install. amsn only works if i fire it using terminal and sudo option
[04:57] <PriceChild> Galga, don't run as sudo
[04:58] <PriceChild> dsquare, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10825 - even though its old it still works beautifully
[04:58] <PriceChild> dsquare, well... as beautiful as tor is
[04:58] <f00bar> ERROR: The PHP binary coming with ISPConfig does not work properly on your system! The installation routine stops here!
[04:58] <Galga> ubotu !pastbin
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Galga> ubotu !pastebin
[04:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <JuJuBee> Can anybody recommend a dual core mobo tested with ubuntu?  Mine is not supported...
[04:59] <elekis> hi all
[04:59] <wolferine> samba is used to share JUST with windows?
[04:59] <shatrat> JuJuBee, intel chipsets should work well.
[04:59] <wolferine> or does it share between linux/linux as well?
[05:00] <f00bar> ERROR: The PHP binary coming with ISPConfig does not work properly on your system! The installation routine stops here!
[05:00] <f00bar> anyone?
[05:00] <shatrat> JuJuBee, what do you mean not supported?
[05:00] <sharkp> kooka doesn't save in tiff
[05:00] <bullgard1> variant: How can I specify my nickserv password as a server password as suggested in  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup item 7 ?
[05:00] <sharkp> how can I save in that format?
[05:00] <dxdt> you can make it share between linux machines, but there are native linux things like NFS that I think would do a better job
[05:01] <wolferine> bullgard1: try #help
[05:01] <sharkp> kooka doesn't save in tiff
[05:01] <sharkp> how can I save in that format?
[05:01] <JuJuBee> Been trying to find out why I cannot install ubuntu... several people helped here and #kubuntu.  No luck.  Even tried to boot DSL no luck. It appears that right after the kernel loads, it forgets how to read the cdrom.
[05:01] <Galga> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10200/
[05:01] <JuJuBee> Using a new INTEL DG965wh mobo
[05:01] <wolferine> so NFS is used between two or more linux machines, rather than Samba?
[05:01] <sharkp> kooka doesn't save in tiff
[05:01] <Galga> PriceChild http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10200/
[05:01] <sharkp> how can I save in that format?
[05:02] <espen> anyone?
[05:02] <shatrat> JuJuBee, sounds more likely its the cd-rom, have you tried a different one?
[05:02] <JuJuBee> shatrat : yes
[05:02] <rausb0> sharkp: why do you need tiff? is png not okay?
[05:03] <JuJuBee> Even tried to install onto HD using different computer and put HD back in... no luck. Installed windows and it boots and installs fine.
[05:03] <sharkp> rausb0, I need a not-compressed format
[05:03] <shatrat> JuJuBee, and did you try stuff like ide=nodma and stuff?
[05:03] <JuJuBee> Me=linux noob
[05:03] <sharkp> rausb0, how the png is?
[05:03] <espen> *detach
[05:03] <dxdt> wolferine, yeah NFS is like Network File System and is typically used when doing only two linux machines.  It sounds scary to setup, but it actually isn't at all.  i did it recently for the first time and I was just like WHOA  because all the guides make it sound like a big deal and it isn't.  Also, if you know ssh, there is something called fuse which will let you mount over ssh.
[05:03] <JuJuBee> Tried nosplash & acpi=off.
[05:03] <sharkp> rausb0, is it like jpeg?
[05:03] <rausb0> sharkp: png is usally compress, but it is lossless
[05:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> [BTF] Chm0d is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[05:04] <wolferine> mount over ssh?
[05:04] <rausb0> sharkp: no artifacts like in jpeg
[05:04] <Galga> !gameinfo
[05:04] <wolferine> i dont see why that would be a benefit
[05:04] <PriceChild> Galga, sudo chown ats:ats -R /home/ats/.amsn/
[05:04] <Bjarne> Helse te mormor
[05:04] <JuJuBee> I will give it a try
[05:04] <shatrat> JuJuBee, pci=noacpi and ide=nodma are a few other things you could find. This is with the LiveCD? I assume youve checked to see that it isnt corrupt or burned wrong
[05:04] <sharkp> ok, i'll try, rausb0
[05:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gameinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:04] <sharkp> thanx
[05:04] <Galga> ok thanks PriceChild
[05:04] <wolferine> dxdt what do I want to do to setup NFS?
[05:04] <mjr> wolferine, it's handy if you want to (securely) mount stuff over the net from a server which you can only access via SSH and don't control yourself
[05:05] <wolferine> but if u can ssh in, then you can do anything you want
[05:05] <foutrelis> [BTF] Chm0d: Are you a bot?
[05:05] <wolferine> maybe reading some documentation might be better
[05:06] <mjr> wolferine, of course. Still, mounting is often handy for use by local programs, especially GUI ones which one doesn't often want to run remotely due to slowness
[05:06] <slavik> The following Xorg config does not get me bigdesktop mode :( http://rafb.net/p/bygF3554.html
[05:07] <genii> JuJuBee: What cpu you have and 1 core or more?
[05:07] <wolferine> hmm, I beleive you, just not sure why you would do it
[05:07] <wolferine> what firewall is set by default on a new install?
[05:07] <dxdt> wolferine, by default none
[05:07] <wolferine> and is there one that is not just command line (firewall)
[05:07] <[BTF] Chm0d> I'm back from the game!
[05:08] <dxdt> ummm  you make sure it is installed  on both machines first.  In ubuntu you need to install the package nfs-common I think on both.  Then it is really pretty easy.  I think I followed the first google hit for it.  It involved a command like mount this that and I think one other file change on the other machine to allow clients to touch it via nfs
[05:08] <dxdt> wolferine, oh yeah for sure.  I think firestarter is one that is not command line only.
[05:08] <wolferine> kmyfirewall
[05:08] <JuJuBee> shatrat : yes tried both commands
[05:08] <foutrelis> [BTF] Chm0d: Good for you. But don't /msg anyone who comes into #ubuntu about games.
[05:08] <JuJuBee> genii : core2 duo 2.13
[05:08] <rellik> I've been having problems with my sound (no sound), so I took out the sound card, leaving only the on-board sound..  do I have to let ubuntu know that I did this, or should it automatically start using the on-board sound?
[05:09] <JuJuBee> shatrat : yes booting form live cd.  No errors.
[05:09] <quaal> does anyone know how to burn a dvd in ubuntu and make it playable in a dvd player? i've burned dvds in easy cd creator in windows and it plays fine
[05:09] <Xif> Does anyone know how to install Rhythmbox 0.9.7 or up on Edgy?
[05:09] <dxdt> quaal, K3b  does it easy as pie for me.  sudo apt-get install k3b or with synaptic
[05:09] <quaal> dxdt, thats what i used
[05:09] <mads-> anyone able to help me with a gravis gamepad? :S
[05:09] <quaal> dvd player says 'no disc'
[05:10] <quaal> and it wont play in windows vlc
[05:10] <quaal> only in ubuntu vlc
[05:10] <quaal> or totem
[05:10] <genii> JuJuBee: Perhaps try as kernel options:   notsc
[05:10] <dxdt> easy as pie makes no sense... I take that back.. It was easy.  Missburn maybe?  i've done it several times with K3b so I know it works.  hmmm
[05:10] <JuJuBee> K
[05:10] <samuel> hello all
[05:10] <JuJuBee> What is that?
[05:10] <samuel> any idea of a program to decode mime attachments from files?
[05:10] <wolferine> quaal: probably a codec issue
[05:11] <wolferine> quaal: maybe check goold
[05:11] <quaal> wolferine, dvd players have codecs?
[05:11] <dxdt> I just have my dvd formatted files >> New DVD movie project.  I tell it to create the Audio and Video folders, and I just dragged in al lthe video files into that video folder (since I had no specific audio ones)
[05:11] <wolferine> google*
[05:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> rellik, did you get a reply?
[05:11] <rellik> [BTF] Chm0d, nope
[05:11] <[BTF] Chm0d> in your bios do you have your onboard sound enabled?
[05:12] <drummer_wilson> hi! i downloaded ubuntu 6.10 but it doesnt work... maybe its not supporting my chipset?
[05:12] <rellik> [BTF] Chm0d, hmm..  I'll have to check
[05:12] <dxdt> was someone in here asking about ISP CONFIG and PHP?
[05:12] <dxdt> or something?  Are they still here?
[05:12] <[BTF] Chm0d> usually when you have a card installed for sound the onboard is disabled
[05:12] <shatrat> JuJuBee, there are other methods to install you might try.  usb stick, minimal cd, network...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:12] <quaal> dxdt, hmm
[05:12] <genii> JuJuBee: Short answer is that it has to do with core timing housekeeping
[05:12] <quaal> dxdt, so it needs to have both audio_ts and video_ts dirs? the dvd i have on the HD only has video_ts
[05:12] <quaal> and i did data dvd
[05:12] <quaal> maybe it needs to be video
[05:13] <JuJuBee> I tried notsc and sam eproblem.  Right after kernel loads, the light on dvd goes out kerblang.... fails.
[05:14] <pkern> Are USB stick images available somewhere?
[05:14] <dxdt> quaal, as for playback, if you can't playback a normal dvd in your drive, say a storebought one, you probably need the codecs installed.  Basically the people who make dvd's put this encryption codecy stuff around them, but didn't make a free version.  People have reverse engineered it, they said "Hey you can't do that becacuse that's competition to us"  and so as a result it is not necessarily legal depending on where you live and such and so it can't b
[05:14] <dxdt> e installed by default.  Online, though, there are tons of instructions for giving yourself DVD support in Ubuntu.  It is a fairly easy thing.  That's a very basic explanation to the DVD codec problems.
[05:14] <sbn> Is there a place where I can check if my wiireless usb key is supported by ubuntu?
[05:15] <amorphous_> I'm trying to setup ssh with rsa key - all appears to be good if I try to access the remote machine from my root account (the keys are here) - the passphrase is asked for for the key - but if i try to acces the remote machine from my standard user account it only asks for a password and is not secure at all :/... am I missing something??? i have found that I have had to put the key in every user account on the remote machine to make each account secu
[05:15] <amorphous_> re... it this right too????
[05:15] <wolferine> help with Firestarter?
[05:15] <dxdt> quaal, my discs always have both folders, but in the times that I have burned them, I never filled the audio up.  (and I still had audio so it was just in the video files)
[05:15] <amorphous_> (sorry about the big post)
[05:15] <dxdt> I'm not sure exactly how that coding works
[05:15] <genii> JuJuBee: What iso did you download?
[05:16] <sbn> Is there a place where I can check if my wiireless usb key is supported by ubuntu?
[05:16] <JuJuBee> I have 6.06, 6.10, feisty-alternate, dsl 3.2  None work
[05:16] <wolferine> im using the Firestarter wizard, but its asking me questions, well, I dont know what the answers are, just skip the wizard and config manually?
[05:16] <foutrelis> !repeat | sbn
[05:16] <ubotu> sbn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:16] <wolferine> and can I get a listing of open local ports?
[05:16] <Jasperk> hey hi...i am newbie in ubuntu...well in linux in general...i try with slackware a few weeks in this distro use konkeror for navigate into the files of the system but in xubuntu what application i must use...???
[05:17] <genii> JuJuBee: I mean i386 amd64 x64   etc
[05:17] <ochosi> anyone here knows how to setup tvout on an old ati rage 128? (i have tv out working in bios, but not in the xserver)
[05:17] <wolferine> Jasperk: do you have a Places in your bar at the top?
[05:17] <JuJuBee> i386, sorry.
[05:17] <wolferine> Jasperk: between Applications and System....
[05:17] <JuJuBee> Was told yesterday that the 64 bit has issues as well, try 32 bit first.
[05:18] <genii> JuJuBee: Yes, thats right
[05:18] <CheshireViking> sbn, you can try this http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php/cat/10
[05:18] <rbil> in Xubuntu, thunar is the file manager
[05:19] <Jasperk> wolferine: yes i have a places in the top of my bar.....
[05:19] <wolferine> u can use that to surf your computer
[05:19] <CheshireViking> sbn, or this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:19] <genii> JuJuBee: put as boot option X86-64
[05:20] <wolferine> or rbil said you can use thunar
[05:20] <JuJuBee> anything else as well?
[05:20] <wolferine> someone able to help with Firestarter?
[05:22] <samuel> wolferine: what do you need?
[05:22] <drummer_wilson> hi! i downloaded ubuntu 6.10 but it doesnt work... maybe its not supporting my chipset?
[05:22] <JuJuBee> genii : no luck
[05:22] <radioman_> The Message For You: http://radioman.wordpress.com/2012-the-future-of-mankind/
[05:22] <genii> bleh
[05:22] <wolferine> im trying to get past the wizard
[05:23] <wolferine> network device setup/internet connection sharing setup
[05:23] <wolferine> do I want to "enable Internet connection sharing" ?
[05:23] <blue|palm>  Does anybody know what causes your CTRL+ALT+F1-6 terminals to appear extremely messy? (graphically) Im using an ati X1900XTX with the prop fglrx drivers
[05:24] <zkorpio> hi, anyone knows where can i find some web that has an virtual terminal to practice linux?
[05:24] <blue|palm> with the latest ati drivers
[05:24] <samuel> wolferine: do you want to share your internet connection?
[05:25] <samuel> if you are behind a router or no other computers are around then no
[05:25] <drummer_wilson> hi! i downloaded ubuntu 6.10 but it doesnt work... maybe its not supporting my chipset?
[05:25] <gordonjcp> drummer_wilson: "doesn't work" in what way?
[05:25] <drummer_wilson> says something boout my cpu
[05:25] <gordonjcp> drummer_wilson: does it sit on the couch all day smoking dope and watching Richard and Judy?
[05:25] <wolferine> k, thanks samuel
[05:25] <drummer_wilson> is that a joke?
[05:26] <gordonjcp> what does it say about your CPU?
[05:26] <bayziders> ah what take two hours to pass the time of upgrading
[05:28] <amorphous_> anyone know why ssh will only use rsa from my root account, any other account and there is no rsa & no protection.... i'm confused :(
[05:29] <tienbkit> hi
[05:29] <tienbkit> can you tell me about ebook of Qt programing
[05:30] <genii> JuJuBee: Still here?
[05:30] <wolferine> how do I receive DCC sends in xchat-gnome?
[05:31] <PriceChild> wolferine, I don't see why you need to use DCC, but they should just appear in channel.
[05:31] <trainer> hi when I try to install the DOM inspector for Firefox I get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:31] <trainer>   firefox-dom-inspector: Depends: firefox (= 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3) but 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[05:31] <PriceChild> wolferine, don't send them in here ;)
[05:31] <wolferine> well, you would have to setup your firewall/router to allow yourself to receive
[05:32] <tienbkit> can you tell me about ebook of Qt programing , please
[05:32] <gnomefreak> trainer: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:32] <Rooy> !patience | tienbkit
[05:32] <ubotu> tienbkit: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:32] <trainer> gnomefreak, I got the same error
[05:32] <tienbkit> oh, thanks a lot
[05:32] <dxdt> wolferine, yeah just tell whatever firewall, probably firestarter what you need to open up port wise.  (Is dcc 59?  I don't remember) and also remember to do the same if needed on your router.
[05:33] <gnomefreak> trainer: can you pastebin the full command and error and join #ubuntu-mozillateam please
[05:33] <wolferine> but within x-g u dont really need to set anything, cause its DCCsend (atuo-on)
[05:33] <wolferine> hmm, anyone willing to attempt a send to me?
[05:33] <dxdt> I wish abiword wasn't so bad.  Is it Alpha software?  It barely works but is so sweet when it does.
[05:34] <Galga> apache or apache2 ? which one is stable on 6.10
[05:35] <CheshireViking> tienbkit, which book specifically, there's quite a few that get listed looking at the amazon website
[05:35] <JuJuBee> genii : yes, I am back.
[05:35] <bluffer_>  ardchoille still up ?
[05:35] <dxdt> Galga, both should be stable, but they are separated for other reasons.  Fights over hyperthreading mostly in the community.  Some feel that apache2 isn't ready for that reason or something like that... I dunno for sure.  Otherwise both are considered stable.  it isn't like apache2 is alpha/beta or something like that
[05:35] <genii> JuJuBee: My last suggestion for now would be all together:   acpi=off noapic nolapic
[05:36] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Yep :)
[05:36] <bluffer_> dont sleep eat ?
[05:36] <Galga> thanks dxdt
[05:36] <JuJuBee> I will try it.
[05:36] <ardchoille> bluffer_: I eat, yes, but what is sleep? lol
[05:36] <JuJuBee> thanks
[05:37] <bluffer_> well i opened up the box ? now and i did your sudo magic
[05:37] <bluffer_> http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9735/ubuxqw2.png before login
[05:37] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Did you install ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:38] <genii> trainer sudo apt-get install firefox=1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3
[05:38] <ardchoille> bluffer_: That tells me that you're in tty1, xorg normally runs in tty7.
[05:38] <genii> JuJuBee: A comprehensive list of aLL kernel paramers can be found at http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/lxr/source/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt?a=i386   if you care to experiment
[05:39] <JuJuBee> Well, I got more info, but still no boot.
[05:39] <JuJuBee> BIOS Bug, no explicit IRQ entries.  Using default mptable
[05:39] <c0nv1ct> well crap, i finally get my new kernel to boot, but my networking is all messed up :\
[05:39] <genii> JuJuBee: hangon I saw one for that
[05:40] <bluffer_> ok did that sudo aptget it asked for cd i gave it the iso tells me it needs 1.5 gig so hopefully it should end up running i think http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4712/ubuxsudoaptgetinstallubpk5.png
[05:40] <genii> JuJuBee: option noirqbalance    [IA-32,SMP,KNL]  Disable kernel irq balancing
[05:40] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Looks like it's going to work.
[05:41] <ardchoille> bluffer_: If it installs successfully, do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:41] <ardchoille> That should fire up gdm and allow you to log into gnome
[05:41] <JuJuBee> OK, I will give it a go... brb
[05:43] <bluffer_> dunno vpc screenwent black now after sudo get finishes what should i get ? get the prompt back ?
[05:43] <bluffer_> should i reboot ?
[05:43] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Try pressing the capslock button a couple times.
[05:43] <bluffer_> there seems to be no activity in cd or hd
[05:44] <bluffer_> ah i got some thing now on screen the resolution screen
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> Does anyone know if Metisse is available on Ubuntu yet?
[05:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !Metisse
[05:44] <ubotu> Metisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse
[05:44] <ardchoille> !info Metisse Edgy
[05:44] <zkorpio> hi, anyone knows where can i find some web that has an virtual terminal to practice linux?
[05:44] <ubotu> Package metisse does not exist in edgy
[05:45] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: I don't think so
[05:45] <Paddy_EIRE> oh well
[05:45] <bluffer_> it has three selected ill remove the 1024 leave alone 8008600 and 800.480 ok
[05:45] <genii> JuJuBee: There are a mess of others to do with irq handling as well but the possibly most relevant seem to be for case:
[05:45] <genii> irqfixup         When an interrupt is not handled search all handlers for it. Intended to get systems with badly broken firmware running.
[05:45] <genii> irqpoll         [When an interrupt is not handled search all handlers for it. Also check all handlers each timer interrupt. Intended to get systems with badly broken firmware running.
[05:45] <ardchoille> bluffer_: You can enable all the ones you want there
[05:45] <genii> sorry ops for multiline paste
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> ardchoille, I have this months issue of Linux Format which comes with Mandriva One Metisse Live, although there is no install option once im in the live distro
[05:46] <blue|palm> http://opende.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[05:46] <ardchoille> Paddy_EIRE: Sounds like a "teaser" for Mandriva :)
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[05:47] <blue|palm> Does anybody know what causes your CTRL+ALT+F1-6 terminals to appear extremely messy? (graphically) Im using an ati X1900XTX with the prop fglrx drivers
[05:47] <bluffer_> well i have a 14" monitor and it has 800*600 so ill have only 640* selected
[05:47] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Yeah. that's a small monitor
[05:47] <EdgEy> is there a way to remove ubuntu packages as if i installed from kubuntu cd
[05:47] <JuJuBee> genii : noirqbalance did not fix it.  should I use all 3 then?  balance, fixup and poll?
[05:48] <EdgEy> to stop gdm, etc being updated when it's never used
[05:48] <ardchoille> EdgEy: Huh? You mean clean out packages that you already installed?
[05:48] <EdgEy> ardchoille, yes
[05:48] <EdgEy> for example removing kubuntu-desktop will kill all of that
[05:48] <genii> JuJuBee: Sure :) Maybe try together with the 3 previous ones like noapic noacpi  etc
[05:48] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, to install mandriva from a live cd, you have to open a Terminal Window and type /usr/sbin/draklive-install
[05:48] <CheshireViking>  accroding to http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=523494
[05:48] <EdgEy> but i have a feeling if i remove ubuntu-desktop it will break a lot
[05:49] <ardchoille> EdgEy: I think you're confused.
[05:49] <genii> Experimenting at this point may yield something
[05:49] <EdgEy> ardchoille, what i mean is
[05:49] <EdgEy> if you install from kubuntu cd, it won't install a lot of gnome stuff (at least i think it wont)
[05:49] <ardchoille> EdgEy: No, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package and can be safely removed. You should re install it later if you plan to upgrade
[05:49] <EdgEy> i first installed from ubuntu cd, then added kubuntu-desktop later. maybe there's a way to clean out packages that haven't been used in X days?
[05:50] <ardchoille> EdgEy: You're wanting to remove all gnome stuff and stick with kde?
[05:50] <EdgEy> yes
[05:50] <kraut> does the xubuntu-installer support dm-crypt devices?
[05:50] <EdgEy> if i end up lacking gtk stuff i need i suppose apps will install that from dependencies
[05:50] <ardchoille> EdgEy: Not sure how to safely do that, maybe ask in #kubuntu
[05:51] <bluffer_> ok it is doing some stuff http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1720/xresww3.png
[05:51] <JuJuBee> genii : when I press F6, do I put these after the end "--", does it matter what order they go in?
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> CheshireViking, thx man, would be good if this option wasnt hidden.  The DVD also contains OpenSUSE 10.2 would the procedure be the same
[05:51] <genii> JuJuBee: Nope
[05:51] <kraut> !xubuntu
[05:51] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:51] <JuJuBee> K
[05:51] <kraut> !xubuntu-channels
[05:51] <ardchoille> bluffer_: It's setting up the software you installed.. you're one step closer :)
[05:51] <JuJuBee> I will try them all then...
[05:51] <ubotu> Support: #xubuntu | Developer Discussion: #xubuntu-devel | Offtopic chatter: #xubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, your welcome
[05:51] <genii> JuJuBee: I mean order does not matter much. TYes, just paste them to the end
[05:52] <JuJuBee> If it works, the nI will remove some to determine which ones are needed.
[05:52] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, don't know about OpenSUSE, I've never tried that so I wouldn't like to say
[05:52] <genii> jujubee back up over the --
[05:52] <genii> THEN put the options in
[05:52] <JuJuBee> leave it there or remove it altogether ?
[05:52] <bluffer_> btw this is not a clone of first child this is a second child (did oem install to check out if it did all the magic automatically but no that too didnt give x auto but ended up in shell)
[05:53] <genii> jujubee It can go at the end again
[05:53] <JuJuBee> K
[05:53] <genii> but should not strictly be essential to boot
[05:53] <moonlite> there are two programs that let you manage profiles and lockdown your desktop etc. what are their names?
[05:53] <moonlite> (i can't remember :/)
[05:54] <ardchoille> !sabayon
[05:54] <ubotu> sabayon: system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 1868 kB
[05:54] <ardchoille> moonlite: Maybe that? ^^
[05:55] <blanca30> ola a todos
[05:55] <zkorpio> hi, anyone knows where can i find some web that has an virtual terminal to practice linux?
[05:55] <DeLude> hi all
[05:55] <Wuilliam> hi to all, i cant to install ubuntu 32bit, i do in my PC (EM64T), when 1st run cant to initialize, only "Starting up..." and show this line: [17179757.232000]  ata1: command 0xC8 time out stat 0x50 host_stat 0x64
[05:55] <moonlite> ardchoille: yeah cool. Do you know the other app i'm referring to? Commonly mentioned together with sabayon?
[05:56] <ardchoille> zkorpio: You can download and use the ubuntu desktop ISO, it runs in ram from the cd drive without touching the hard drive.
[05:56] <DeLude> zkorpio, why not get virtual machines and practice linux there
[05:56] <ardchoille> moonlite: No, sorry :(
[05:57] <Wuilliam> who can help me??? i need to install ubuntu, but i cant
[05:57] <DeLude> why Wuilliam ?
[05:57] <techie_> Can anybody provide me with the terminal command for listing my soundcard?
[05:58] <ardchoille> techie_: lspci | grep sound ?
thanks
[05:58] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:58] <genii> techie_ It depends what command you mean. There is lspci which shows pci devices, there is also lsmod |grep snd   and other methods
[05:59] <JuJuBee> genii : no go.  When I get rid of the acpi errors I get the irq error and visa versa...
[05:59] <DeLude> In what form do i enter a wep key for my wifi? do i need -'s or :'s or just hex digits
[06:00] <He1> I'm using a radeon 9250 and trying to install beryl, the wiki says "Ensure you have the open source radeon drivers installed.", which package do i install?
[06:00] <beg1689> fglrx
maybe I do not know how to read the output. Basically my SoundRecorder program does not let me record voice. NOthing happens. And yet, I am able to hear and see DVD's and VCD's
any ideas?
[06:01] <JanK> i have just created a new user, but unfortunately he cannot use the Xlibs. the groups this user has not, but my normal user has are: "adm, dialout, dip, www-data, admin, vboxusers"
[06:01] <genii> JuJuBee: Well, I am finding a *lot* of irq/bios switches to try. But for the moment my next great hope for success is: pci=biosirq
[06:01] <beg1689> dont remember the exact name
[06:01] <moonlite> ardchoille: pessulus was the program i was searching for! :)
[06:01] <He1> beg1689: ah, xorg-driver-fglrx?
[06:01] <beg1689> yes
[06:01] <ardchoille> moonlite: Ah, yeah, that's it
[06:01] <He1> ok
the same thing happens when using "Audacity" there are beeps and silence but no voice
[06:01] <DeLude> techie_, do you have jackd installed?
[06:01] <beg1689> and you will need to run a command to configure xorg
[06:01] <JuJuBee> genii : still use the others?
[06:01] <Yodude> hey can i use Audacity to convert MP3 files into AAC files?? if no than what program do i need?
i do not know
[06:02] <beg1689> i believe it mentions it on the wiki
[06:02] <ardchoille> bluffer_: How you doing over there?
[06:02] <genii> JuJuBee: Not the acpi stuff or tyhe last 3 we added
HOw do I check or install it?
[06:02] <BlackGrim1313> Hello everyone. When i DL Ubuntu 10.6 is that a GUI or command line?
[06:02] <JuJuBee> ok.
[06:02] <genii> techie Sounds to me like a mixer issue
[06:02] <DeLude> techie_, synaptic - look for jackd
[06:02] <beg1689> Ubuntu 10.6? thats gonna be awesome
explain please
[06:03] <ardchoille> BlackGrim1313: ubuntu 6.10 desktop is gui, Ubuntu 6.10 alternate is command line
i will
[06:03] <BlackGrim1313> ok
[06:03] <ardchoille> beg1689: lol
[06:03] <Yodude> hey can i use Audacity to convert MP3 files into AAC files?? if no than what program do i need?
[06:03] <JanK> does this command "sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner nonetwork -j DROP" only restrict network access to user "nonetwork" or probably also to the xserver?
[06:03] <beg1689> can someone tell me the name of the networking program in gnome thats usually in System->Administration->Networking
[06:03] <crimsun> Yodude: you can use GSt tools
[06:03] <kestaz> how to get latest kernel patch with git ?
[06:04] <fabiim> how do i open the same document in two different evince windows?
[06:04] <crimsun> Yodude: man gst-launch-0.10
[06:04] <crimsun> Yodude: read the examples toward the end of the man page
[06:04] <genii> beg1689: LOL Hmmmm must be release Temporal Terrier
[06:04] <Yodude> GSt tools...K i'll check them out thnkx man
[06:04] <crimsun> kestaz: more specifically?
[06:05] <kestaz> crimsun, i need to compile kernel .. with latest patches
[06:05] <effie_jayx> using nm-applet, I can't enable the wireless connection  cuz after I input my password the button is still disabled ... any clue ?
[06:05] <JuJuBee> genii : used nosplash and pci=biosirq... same thing
[06:05] <techie_> Delude... I just installed it. What now?
[06:05] <kestaz> and i want you use git
[06:05] <Yodude> there are no examples
[06:05] <DeLude> techie_, try to change the i/o of your software to that if it supports it
[06:05] <bluffer_> ardchoille it is still chewing cud i saw a warning hope fully this shouldnt interfere ?? http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/284/warningsu7.png
[06:05] <Yodude> oh sorry it's renerding the page
[06:05] <DeLude> look in interface or something
[06:06] <genii> JuJuBee: OK :(  You may want to visit the page I gave and just look for irq/bios related kernel switches there.
[06:06] <twilight> hello
[06:06] <genii> JuJuBee: There are a *lot*
[06:06] <wolferine> what are some firewalls for linux?
[06:06] <wolferine> common ones
[06:06] <crimsun> kestaz: which kernel, and which git repo?
[06:06] <twilight> does anyone know which file i should edit to automatically execute commands after boot?
[06:06] <ardchoille> bluffer_: I don't think that will interfere with the installation of that software.
[06:06] <genii> wolverine peerguardian I hear is not too bad
[06:06] <effie_jayx> the password is wpa2 :S
[06:07] <crimsun> ardchoille: /etc/rc.local if that's what you intend
[06:07] <crimsun> arg, sorry
[06:07] <twilight> thanks
[06:07] <genii> wolferine: ^^
[06:07] <crimsun> twilight: ^
[06:07] <Wuilliam> i cant to install ubuntu, but i have weeks whit this and no1 solution
[06:07] <Wuilliam> :(
[06:07] <twilight> i am used to /etc/init.d/boot.local from Suse thas why i ask
[06:08] <genii> twilight They are all just in /etc/ini.d here
[06:08] <Yodude> crimsun: is there any graphical program for the job?
[06:08] <genii> *init.d*
[06:08] <dZen|n|> great NEWS going to ubuntu :D
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> where would I set up a subdomain(s) ? /etc/apache2? , /var/www ?
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> ?
[06:08] <crimsun> Yodude: probably, but I don't tend to use such
[06:08] <twilight> but in init.d there is a same file
[06:09] <kestaz> crimsun, 2.6 kernel latest git
[06:09] <kestaz> ;)
[06:09] <Yodude> can you tell me the name of one? or a site i can go to that describes the best ones?
[06:09] <Yodude> please
[06:09] <twilight> whats the news?
[06:09] <DeLude> Can I install daily cvs drivers on top of stable ones or do i have to remove the current ones first - genarally or particualrly for a wireless interface?
[06:09] <crimsun> kestaz: just install git-core and then use standard git commands
[06:09] <kestaz> crimsun, ok
[06:09] <Yodude> i really love the iTunes converter but i don't want to see that windows' face EVER again!
[06:09] <kestaz> i will try
[06:10] <crimsun> Yodude: I seriously don't use any gui apps to convert. Sorry.
[06:10] <jrib> !kernel | kestaz
[06:10] <ubotu> kestaz: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:10] <Yodude> kk
[06:10] <Yodude> thnkx anyway c u
[06:10] <genii> twilight You just make a shell script file executing the thing you want, make it executable then stick it in /etc/init.d
[06:10] <twilight> i just wanted to set some keycodes
[06:10] <ofer> I installed dia by sudo apt-get install dia but don't know how to run it
[06:10] <twilight> ok
[06:11] <ardchoille> ofer: Applications -> Graphics -> Dia
[06:11] <berto-> ofer: probably just run dia from a shell.
[06:11] <ardchoille> ofer: Or open a terminal and type: dia
[06:11] <twilight> i will try
[06:11] <wolferine> shorewall any good?
[06:11] <genii> twilight: For something like that maybe lookup xmodmap man page as well
[06:11] <N3WB> Question: Could this computer run Ubuntu: Intel Core2 duo E6600, nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS (640MB Edition), Asus p5b motherboard and 2 gb ram (200GB HDD), Windows Vista allready installed...
[06:11] <X73> How can i prevent X from starting on 6.06 LiveCD ?
[06:11] <ofer> ardchoille: it is not in the graphics but the terminal is working thanks :)
[06:11] <berto-> anyone familiar with the AT daemon?  if I add something to the AT queue, when the time to run comes along, it just hangs in the active queue.
[06:12] <hollywoodb> X73: the "alternative" cd has a text install mode that doesn't use X
[06:12] <genii> X73 Use the alternate install cd
[06:12] <ardchoille> ofer: Your menus may not have updated yet
[06:12] <X73> ah, thanks
[06:12] <bullgard1> What is the function of the environment variable LC_ALL?
[06:12] <ofer> this is uml tool as well?
[06:12] <X73> but the alternate is 6.06 LTS ? i dont think so
[06:12] <twilight> genni: thanks i will look for it
[06:12] <N3WB> Question: Could this computer run Ubuntu: Intel Core2 duo E6600, nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS (640MB Edition), Asus p5b motherboard and 2 gb ram (200GB HDD), Windows Vista allready installed...
[06:12] <genii> X73 There is no way to pre-empt the gui installer on the standard cd
[06:12] <ardchoille> ofer: I believe so
[06:12] <genii> X73 Yes, it is
[06:12] <ofer> ardchoille: what you mean by yet
[06:13] <JuJuBee> genii : thanks for all of your help.  There are too many posibilities for me to try. I THink I will try to replace mobo instead.
[06:13] <berto-> N3WB: sounds like a fine box.
[06:13] <ardchoille> ofer: Sometimes the gnome menus need manual updating: killall gnome-panel
[06:13] <berto-> N3WB: you should get the live cd and just check it out.
[06:13] <genii> JuJuBee: Well, sorry it did not work out better. But good luck with the next attempt
[06:13] <N3WB> Ok :) Downloading one now :P
[06:13] <Wuilliam> i have this error when ubuntu runs for 1st time: [17179757.232000]  ata1: command 0xC8 time out stat 0x50 host_stat 0x64
[06:13] <N3WB> 97%
[06:13] <hollywoodb> X73: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/edgy/
[06:13] <berto-> actually, these days the live cd and install cd are the same one.
[06:13] <ardchoille> N3WB: Sounds good :)
[06:13] <bluffer_> the vhd size atm is 2 200 124
[06:13] <ofer> ardchoille: I think there is other drowing softare do you know about it?
[06:13] <X73> thank you
[06:14] <X73> we found a way to go to shell on drapper, and modify xorg.conf... no need for edgy.. yet :D
[06:14] <ardchoille> ofer: Drawing? as in graphics? Or mind mapping?
[06:14] <X73> hollywoodb:  thanks for the help
[06:14] <ofer> ardchoille: drawing for uml
[06:14] <X73> genii: thanks ;)
[06:14] <ardchoille> berto-: You're refering to the desktop cd, there is also the alternate cd, which has a more stable installer.
[06:15] <ZeZu> how can i tell if a pci device has a driver assigned to it ?
[06:15] <ardchoille> ofer: Oh, that I don't know.
[06:15] <genii> X73 You're welcome
[06:15] <ofer> ardchoille: ok thanks
[06:15] <ZeZu> sysfs will generate entries for it no matter what
[06:15] <pharsalus> I have a Hewlet Packard KB-0316 keyboard with 6pin DIN connector, that doesn't work with Ubuntu. Plugging in a broken USB keyboard does. Can anyone help me?
[06:16] <bluffer_> brb
[06:16] <D_Cent> everytime i stick on one of my usb-sticks, the computer crashes. who can help me?
[06:16] <robdeman> hi folks. I need to put as much storage space in my video server as possible. Im thinking of replacing the harddrives with 2x WD Caviar SE16 (500 GB, 300 MB/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM) http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=214 --- any comments on this choice?
[06:16] <hosk> hello!
[06:17] <space_ninja> ah, lot of people here :D
[06:17] <pharsalus> Yeah, I think I'll post to forums
[06:17] <berto-> ardchoille: yep, i was referring to the desktop cd.
[06:17] <berto-> N3WB: well, from ardchoille's comments, if you have any iissue with installing with the desktop cd, the alternate cd may be a good way to go.
[06:18] <ardchoille> berto- , N3WB Actually, I recommend the alternate cd for installing Ubuntu. The installer on the dapper desktop cd wasn't that great.. although this may have been fixed with the Edgy release, I don't know.
[06:18] <N3WB> Ok
[06:19] <Sonic_13> i am installing ubuntu but it seems to have frozen during the installation
[06:19] <N3WB> I tried Alternative CD but the only thing it could do was to give me boot error 21 -.-
[06:19] <Sonic_13> it has said Please wait... for at least 10-15 minutes
[06:19] <genii> robdeman: Do you have a scsi card on that box?
[06:20] <berto-> N3WB: that's odd; could it be a burn or download error.  run a checksum on the iso and check against the one posted online.
[06:20] <IdleOne> Sonic_13, at what stage of install?
[06:20] <Sonic_13> the "
[06:20] <Sonic_13> the "Select and install software
[06:20] <Sonic_13> just after i selected to install the Ubuntu Desktop
[06:20] <Sonic_13> it has said
[06:20] <hollywoodb> Sonic_13: how much memory in that machine ?
[06:20] <StoneNote> pharsalus, there is a bug report about that keyboard and it is reported as fixed in the next release of Ubuntu in April, which is Feisty. Feisty is still in Alpha and you can ask questions about it in #ubuntu+1  you can see the bug report here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/52959
[06:20] <N3WB> I downloaded via Bittorrent, shouldnt be any errors then
[06:21] <Sonic_13> 256mb ram
[06:21] <N3WB> + the ISO is on the computer which dosnt want to boot
[06:21] <IdleOne> Sonic_13, if this is an older machine it may take some time
[06:21] <N3WB> so last resort would be to try fix it with Live CD or download a Boot Disc
[06:21] <twilight> genni: thanks it works = solved
[06:21] <Sonic_13> its ben at 6% for at least 20 minutes
[06:21] <Sonic_13> and has said "Please wait"
[06:21] <hosk> is there a registration process for here?
[06:21] <ardchoille> hosk: For your nick?
[06:22] <robdeman> genii: we have SATA
[06:22] <hosk> yes
[06:22] <IdleOne> !register > hosk
[06:22] <ardchoille> hosk: /msg nickserv help register
[06:22] <hosk> thanks IdleOne and ardchoille!
[06:22] <ardchoille> hosk: You're welcome :)
[06:22] <IdleOne> no problem
[06:23] <ardchoille> hosk: Also see the pm ubotu sent you
[06:23] <berto-> N3WB: i think first thing would be to make sure your download was alright by running an md5sum.  google "md5sum +windows" to get a program to run the md5sum, then check the download section on ubuntu.com to get what the file's md5sum should be (for example, for 6.06: http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/MD5SUMS).
[06:23] <N3WB> ok
[06:23] <ardchoille> I need to start using the bot for reg questions
[06:23] <wolferine> anyone able to DCC with xchat-gnome?
[06:23] <berto-> N3WB: if your download was good, maybe try to burn the disk at a slower speed.
[06:23] <berto-> and if that fails, well, try another installer.
[06:24] <IdleOne> ardchoille, I have been accused of using the bot to much but the bot has a ton of info
[06:24] <N3WB> ok i guess it will work with DVDs too?
[06:24] <ardchoille> IdleOne: I've been asked to use the bot when I can, I just am not used to it
[06:24] <berto-> N3WB: should, but the installer iso should fit on a regular cd.
[06:24] <N3WB> since i dont got any CDs
[06:24] <N3WB> alternative worked on dvds atleast
[06:24] <ardchoille> N3WB: You can burn a cd iso to a dvd, no problem.
[06:24] <N3WB> Ok
[06:25] <pharsalus> I have a HP KB-0316 serial keyboard that isn't detected by Ubuntu, any suggestions?
[06:25] <N3WB> I guess Nero 7 would work fine?
[06:26] <N3WB> or MagicISO or something
[06:26] <IdleOne> N3WB, yeah
[06:26] <robdeman> folks: Apache says '(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80'
[06:26] <robdeman> I must have made  mistake in my config
[06:26] <robdeman> but what??
[06:27] <N3WB> and if that dont work i will use Infra Recorder that Ubuntu says in their guide
[06:27] <zool2005> can anyone suggest why my camera sometimes shows jpeg file extension as .jpg and other times as .JPG? It is a pain as nautilus won't display thumbnails of .JPG files
[06:27] <ardchoille> N3WB: You're determined.. that's a good thing :)
[06:28] <Dr_willis> zool2005,  because ms often does the same thing. :)
[06:28] <Dr_willis> zool2005,  you mean .jpg and .JPG or is it actually using .jpeg ?
[06:28] <bluffer_> so it is now sitting at setting up the scrollkeeper rebuilding database
[06:29] <N3WB> ;) I've allways wanted to try Ubuntu but on my two laptops (which includes this one) it wouldnt install and since i bought myself a new desktop i decided to try on that one :D
[06:29] <zool2005> Dr_Willis, it either shows .jpg or .JPG Can I make nautilus show thumbnails of .JPG?
[06:29] <ardchoille> bluffer_: There's actually a lot for it to do since you didn't have the whole desktop + xorg stuff to begin with.
[06:29] <Dr_willis> zool2005,  proberly can. but i dont use gnome.
[06:29] <pharsalus> My HP 6pin serial keyboard isn't detected by Kubuntu, any suggestions? Will sell own soul for assistance...
[06:29] <bluffer_> 2 277 924
[06:29] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Also, remember that it is running on a, for lack of a better term, POS operating system, lol
[06:29] <zool2005> Dr_Willis, thanks anyway!
[06:30] <rwxr-xr--> how can i create my partition link on desktop?
[06:31] <bluffer_> POS = proof of s*** ?
[06:31] <StoneNote> pharsalus, I already answered you. scroll back
[06:31] <predaeus> zool2005: nautilus can show thumbnails in icon view.
[06:31] <PriceChild> bluffer_, POS is usually point of sale
[06:31] <axl_> Hi everyone. I am looking for an alternative to filemaker. Any suggestions?
[06:32] <zool2005> predaeus, not .JPG extension. I have to manually change it to .jpg to display thumbnails.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> axl_,  im betting that 90% of us dont have a clue what 'filemaker' is...
[06:32] <rwxr-xr--> how can i create my partition link on desktop?
[06:32] <cables> !repeat | rwxr-xr--
[06:32] <ubotu> rwxr-xr--: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:32] <axl_> Okey.  Filemaker is a database program.
[06:32] <pharsalus> Ok, thanks StoneNote, didn't see your answer.
[06:32] <cables> rwxr-xr--, alt-f2, gconf-editor, I'll tell you the rest when you get there.
[06:32] <jlmoreno> jlmoreno
[06:33] <StoneNote> np
[06:33] <jlmoreno> 666666
[06:33] <Dr_willis> axl_,  there dozens of 'database' things out for linux. :) care to clarify what makes that one so special?
[06:33] <ardchoille> bluffer_: When refering to Windows, that's exactly correct, IMHO
[06:33] <rwxr-xr--> cables,: done
[06:33] <jrib> zool2005: well the good news is that on feisty, it seems to thumnail images with names like foo.JPG, what does it show as the mimetype for your images without thumbnails?
[06:33] <bluffer_> yeah i guessed so :)
[06:34] <cables> rwxr-xr--, /apps/nautilus/desktop/ then check off volumes_visible
[06:34] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Ever thought about dual-booting your Windows install with Ubuntu?
[06:34] <axl_> I have someone who is used to that one. He needs to make a cataloge of employees. So I need a program to create, modify and update a database.
[06:34] <predaeus> zool2005: weird. it shows them here. at least if I rename .jpg to .JPG and change directories and all it still shows them.
[06:34] <cables> axl_, there's no Linux version.
[06:35] <bluffer_> nope
[06:35] <bluffer_> mostly i would like some virtual machine for all my sploits
[06:35] <axl_> @cables, yes, they discontinued their linux server in 2001.
[06:35] <ardchoille> bluffer_: ok
[06:35] <cables> bluffer_, vmware?
[06:35] <bluffer_> vpc2004
[06:35] <ardchoille> cables: Microsoft Virtual PC I believe
[06:35] <rwxr-xr--> cables: i want to show all volumes.. but on desktop there is 3 volumes but i have 4.. the 4th volume is not showing there so i want to create 4th link
[06:35] <cables> i got that :)
[06:35] <zool2005> jrib, yes. It recognises it as a jpeg file and says that the file may present a security risk. It asks me to rename it to the correct extension.
[06:36] <bluffer_> yeah ms  virtual pc 2004
[06:36] <cables> rwxr-xr--, create a Launcher then for it.
[06:36] <quaal> does anyone have a problem with menu items showing up under applications?
[06:36] <bluffer_> you believe ardchoille :) didnt see the pics ? :)
[06:36] <quaal> i installed xtightvncviewer and it doesnt show in the menu
[06:36] <axl_> @ cables and willis: Is there a easy frontend to sql?
[06:36] <quaal> but its in /usr/share/menu
[06:36] <cables> axl_, no idea, but probably
[06:36] <rwxr-xr--> cables i tried to make with Launcher.. but dont know files going to txt file.
[06:36] <quaal> it did the same thing with the one i added manually
[06:37] <zool2005> predaeus, funnily enough, there is no problem if I change it from .jpg to .JPG once the thumbnail has been displayed. The problem only occurs when I try to view the files on my camera's memory card or when I transfer them without changing the extension first.
[06:37] <jc-denton> hi all
[06:37] <genii> robdeman BTW seagate hd link : http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=Barracuda_7200.10_SATA_750.2_GB&vgnextoid=ce4f99f4fa74c010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a32a2f290c5fb010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&reqPage=Model  and if scsi were an option: http://www.gesecurity.com/portal/site/GESecurity/menuitem.f76d98ccce4cabed5efa421766030730?selectedID=6567&seriesyn=true&seriesID= <
[06:37] <ardchoille> bluffer_: I saw them, but I think anything running inside windows is going to limit an Ubuntu install :)
[06:37] <genii> -- 2 Terabyte U320 HD
[06:37] <jc-denton> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1893660&postcount=5
[06:37] <jc-denton> i have small issues with beryl and according to this post an update to 2.6.19 whould fix it
[06:37] <depinko> how can I create for example a TAR archive protected with password?
[06:37] <axl_> thanks anyway... have a good day.
[06:37] <cables> rwxr-xr--, make the launcher for "nautilus /the/partition"
[06:37] <Nwallins|home> Hi, since upgrading to edgy, my /home seems to be mounted noexec -- /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied           if i copy this script to /tmp, it works
[06:37] <jc-denton> are thre backports for edgy or something?
[06:37] <cables> !backports | jc-denton
[06:37] <ubotu> jc-denton: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:38] <Wuilliam> can some 1 tell me why this in the 1st run of Ubuntu??? [XXXXX.XXXXXX]  ata1: command 0xC8 timeout stat 0x50 host_stat 0x
[06:38] <rwxr-xr--> cables i wan to make volumn is in /media/hd8
[06:38] <zool2005> predeaus, it may just be a hiccup from the upgrade from breezy. I'm still on Dapper til Feisty comes out then I'll do a fresh install
[06:38] <Nwallins|home>  /home is an entire hard drive, hdb2
[06:38] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - I am trying to setup wireless (boadcom network card) with ndiswrapper, and it seemed to have installed the driver, but i am not seeing an icon for wireless in the tray, so I dont think its working - any ideas?
[06:38] <robdeman> genii: waw ok cool 750 GBs
[06:38] <cables> rwxr-xr--, then it should be "nautilus /media/hd8"
[06:38] <bluffer_> why ?  imean no m$ windoze is bs blah blah  is there some basic undoable limitations ?
[06:38] <robdeman> genii: would that be safe in a server? not too much heat and stuff?
[06:38] <rwxr-xr--> ok
[06:38] <jc-denton> cables: will check
[06:38] <linux_manju> Wuilliam, Are you using a sata drive?
[06:39] <rowland> #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <Wuilliam> linux_manju: yeah! but is slave, ubuntu was installed in my IDE (master)
[06:39] <rwxr-xr--> cables: i the command field what should i set there?
[06:39] <rwxr-xr--> *in
[06:39] <ardchoille> bluffer_: This isn't the place for me to get into an anti-microsoft tirade
[06:39] <cables> rwxr-xr--, "nautilus /media/hd8"
[06:39] <linux_manju> Wuilliam, Well. it is not the problem with ubuntu.. Its the problem with the kernel.. may be you should take the source and upgrade
[06:40] <genii> robdeman They run hot but can go thru hell :) We used some like this (less capacity) in tight cabinets, no issues
[06:40] <linux_manju> Wuilliam, Or wait for ubuntu upgrade
[06:40] <cables> How come Ubuntu doesn't come with 7zip support? It's free...
[06:40] <jrib> zool2005: you could resolve the issue by editing the mime stuff I guess
[06:40] <bluffer_> and thats what i meant i dont want to hear them too i was just asking for basic incompatibilities ? like will you prefer vmware more than vpc etc etc
[06:40] <denis_on_ubuntu> hey guys - I am trying to setup wireless (boadcom network card) with ndiswrapper, and it seemed to have installed the driver, but i am not seeing an icon for wireless in the tray, so I dont think its working - any ideas?
[06:40] <N3WB> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support here it says that p5b series wont work :|
[06:40] <rwxr-xr--> cables: i create the icon.. but the icon properties is "desktop configuration file"
[06:40] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu, you're not supposed to see an icon for wireless.
[06:40] <Wuilliam> linux_manju: yeah, but whitout opertive system, how can i do to take the source
[06:40] <Wuilliam> :(
[06:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> oh - so how do i connect to something?
[06:41] <cables> rwxr-xr--, yep, now double click on it and it should take you to the partition..
[06:41] <denis_on_ubuntu> like is there a way for me to see a screen where i can choose what connection to choose and connect to?
[06:41] <jc-denton> humm
[06:41] <predaeus> zool2005: yea looks like there is some logic behind the thumbnail handling. they are all in ~/.thumbnails and got a different ID. No idea.
[06:41] <jrib> zool2005: http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/2.14/mimetypes-database.html
[06:41] <bluffer_> ok seems like i have to save state again maybe
[06:41] <jc-denton> i don't find 2.6.19 in the backports
[06:41] <cables> rwxr-xr--, there's another way you can do it that you might like better. Right click on the partition, hit "make link", and drag the link to your desktop
[06:41] <ardchoille> bluffer_: In case I'm not around later, there's one more command you will probably need: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:42] <linux_manju> Wuilliam, Normally leave i on for a while It settles down and comes up.. May be upto 10 minutes
[06:42] <jc-denton> however there must be a way to get it easily running
[06:42] <linux_manju> Wuilliam, Sometimes tweaking Bios helps..
[06:42] <jc-denton> i mean what do you do if you have hardware that is not supported in 2.6.17
[06:42] <bluffer_> ardchoille  so whan this scroll keeps all scrolls what should i get ?
[06:42] <robdeman> genii: nice I guess the rest of the mainboard  / cpu wil not get too hot eh?
[06:42] <bluffer_> the prompt will be back ?
[06:43] <ardchoille> bluffer_: it should return you to the shell prompt, then yo enter that command I gave you and it should fire up gdm (login screen) so you can log into gnome.
[06:43] <bluffer_> and itype in sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:43] <ardchoille> bluffer_: yes
[06:43] <jc-denton> or can i jus use the kernel  image from feisty
[06:43] <jc-denton> ?
[06:43] <genii> robdeman Well, put them in the case as far from the mb as you can. But we had several machines wi4 of these in and tightly packed. No heat alarms etc
[06:43] <bluffer_> ok  then it will get me into ubuntu in all glory hopefully
[06:44] <ardchoille> bluffer_: I hope so, the you can play :)
[06:44] <genii> depinko Did you get a tar/encrypt answer yet?
[06:44] <rwxr-xr--> cables: when i try to open it.. the msg comes is. "Do u want to Run hd8, or display its contents " "hd8" is an executable file. when i try to run it nothing happens.. when i try to  Display it .. so the txt file opens.
[06:44] <bluffer_> if it happened then i should thank you you for twenty days worth of effort :)
[06:44] <ardchoille> bluffer_: hehe
[06:44] <N3WB> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core_2_Duo_Support here it says that p5b series wont work with PATA/IDE stuff, well my DVD WRiter is IDE (Ye i should bought a ATA i know) Do i need to use a USB Memory Stick? or should i try to see if it works first?
[06:44] <cables> rwxr-xr--, try the link method I told you about
[06:45] <N3WB> Because if i need a USB Memory Stick i would need to buy that too now
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> cables
[06:45] <bluffer_> even it it didnt happen i would like to thank you very much for all the effort to get me till here
[06:45] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu
[06:45] <bluffer_> ardchoille thanks a lot
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> cables when i try to do iwconfig it just gives me  Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:45] <webguy> how do i check to see what my servers ip address on the network is?
[06:45] <ardchoille> bluffer_: You're quite welcome. I like to help :)
[06:45] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu, don't ask me... I have no idea how to fix it.
[06:45] <rwxr-xr--> cable .. well i right click on it but the make link option is disable.
[06:45] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu, tell the whole channel
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> heh ok :) sorry to bug ya :)
[06:45] <denis_on_ubuntu> the whole channel?
[06:46] <JuJuBee> I need a tested motherboard for a core 2 duo 2.13?  Can someone make suggestion?  I have not built a custom linux system before.
[06:46] <samuel> im having trouble with munpack to handle mime messages, any ideas of a more robust mime tool?
[06:46] <ZeZu> N3WB, thats your best bet, or removable hdd
[06:46] <bluffer_> hope fully if it ran i would be bugging people of ubuntu-effects :)
[06:46] <samuel> command line mime tool?
[06:46] <dimeotane> is there somewhere that users can make / give package requests for upcoming editions of ubuntu?
[06:46] <denis_on_ubuntu> i'm new to linux sorry - what do you mean by whole channel cables?
[06:46] <webguy> how do i check to see what my servers ip address on the network is?
[06:46] <ZeZu> N3WB, you could do a netinst for reg debian, but you'll find that unless you find some drivers to use, it wont recognize your NIC either
[06:46] <cables> rwxr-xr--, alt-f2, gksudo nautilus /media , then try again with the link
[06:46] <jc-denton> so what options do i have to get 2.6.20 or ~19 running
[06:46] <jc-denton> besides compiling it myself
[06:46] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu, the IRC channel you're on :)
[06:47] <ardchoille> bluffer_: Yes, the eye candy can be awesome
[06:47] <robdeman> genii: thx 4 da info
[06:47] <cables> denis_on_ubuntu, I don't know much about wireless configuration. Don't ask a question to a specific member of the IRC channel, ask everyone.
[06:47] <webguy> anyone? kind of ipconfig on widows
[06:47] <runge> hI. I got dual screen working, but for some reson I can not get a "notifier" to work on both screens for each pannel. any ideas?
[06:47] <cables> webguy, are you looking for ifconfig?
[06:47] <denis_on_ubuntu> ok
[06:48] <genii> depinko If not, use: sudo gpg -c ` tar -czvf <input_file>`  to compress/encrypt , then sudo tar -xzvf `gpg -x <input_file>` for decompress/unencrypt
[06:48] <bluffer_> i ve seen it working on arch-linux :) thats why i went in to get it in local pc
[06:48] <webguy> think so - will that give me my current ip address on the network for the box cab?
[06:48] <webguy> cables
[06:48] <cables> webguy, yep
[06:48] <webguy> ill try one sec
[06:48] <bluebaron> Hi all, I'm after some help. Anyone able to help me see my ubuntu shared older in windows?
[06:48] <bluffer_> i think arch-linux or may be some thing else i have a three minutes avi
[06:48] <genii> depinko just gpg <filename> in second command may be enough
[06:48] <cables> bluebaron, shared with Samba?
[06:49] <webguy> think so - will that give me my current ip address on the network for the box cab?
[06:49] <ardchoille> bluffer_: http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8689/20070221desktoplf1.png
[06:49] <bluebaron> not entirely sure
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !samba
[06:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:50] <genii> robdeman np
[06:50] <wolferine> test
[06:50] <chris_mac> hey guys, i need a little help. im a noob to linux
[06:50] <Dr_willis> bluebaron,  to get windows to see the ubuntu shares - you need to enable the home diretory shares, (or add other shares) then give the users a samba passwd with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' (is how i do it)
[06:50] <cables> chris_mac, ask away
[06:50] <chris_mac> i just installed ubuntu and i cant get it to work with my WAP
[06:50] <Dr_willis> bluebaron,  also samba has some docs you can install
[06:50] <Dr_willis> For a good samba background Install 'sudo apt-get install  samba-doc '  and read the Books that wil/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/using_samba " and " /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/ " docs WELL worth reading. l be in ..   "
[06:50] <orangey> hey all!
[06:50] <zool2005> thanks all, I'll look into it. I'll see if installing Feisty fixes it.
[06:50] <chris_mac> it recognizes the WAP
[06:50] <bluebaron> i have a shared directory in windows that i can see in ubuntu, but my shared directory in ubuntu cant be seen from windows
[06:51] <chris_mac> just wont connect
[06:51] <orangey> Where do I find the gnome disk manager?
[06:51] <chris_mac> and i havent the slightest clue why
[06:51] <orangey> I can't easily find it in synaptic or in my menus
[06:51] <jrib> orangey: what version of ubuntu?
[06:51] <orangey> jrib: feisty, though I would also like the info on edgy : )
[06:51] <bluebaron> give me 5 minutes to read that
[06:52] <chris_mac> anyone have any suggestions?
[06:52] <jrib> orangey: well, afaik that application disappeared in edgy because it was unmaintained and hasn't returned in feisty
[06:52] <hemp4ever> hi
[06:52] <hemp4ever> come faccio a cambiare server?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> bluebaron,  what 'shared' diretory in ubuntu? by default its not hareing anything.
[06:53] <orangey> jrib: well, OK, maybe I'm wondering about another question..
[06:53] <orangey> I am wondering how to assign partitions
[06:53] <orangey> i.e., how to graphically manipulate fstab the ubuntu way
[06:53] <hemp4ever> hi
[06:53] <hemp4ever> I wanna change server
[06:53] <hemp4ever> help me plz
[06:54] <jrib> orangey: I don't know, I think the reasoning is that you shouldn't need to.  There is an application called pysdm in the repositories that you can try though (I have not used it myself)
[06:54] <genii> orangey Those are 2 different things (fstab and assigning patitions)
[06:54] <bluffer_> it came out of sleep and and telling me it is configuring bugbuddy or bug daddy
[06:54] <bluffer_> so it is still working
[06:54] <runge> is there a way to have the notifier thing on more then one panel?
[06:54] <asad2005> I want to install ubuntu on powermac G3 B&W, tried 5.04 and 6.10 server but the system hangs directly after loading ramdisk any help ?
[06:54] <orangey> genii: assigning partitions to a directory.
[06:55] <orangey> : )
[06:55] <nixnoob> is there any particular reason why my new kernel doesnt recognize eth0 but my old one does?  i used the same .config file from the old kernel to compile the new one...
[06:55] <linux_manju> orange_, Use gvim.. to edit the file :)
[06:55] <bluffer_> restarting cupsysd ok
[06:55] <bluffer_> nice screen shot there :)
[06:56] <bluffer_> 2 233 324
[06:56] <orangey> OK, I am likely being unclear, so let me try again.
[06:56] <bluffer_> oops 2 323324
[06:57] <denis_on_ubuntu> is there something on ubuntu that will be the same as the wireless network manager on windows? as in something that shows me a LIST of all the wireless networks around me with one to choose?
[06:57] <sanityx> When ubuntu developers fix a bug, what exactley are they fixing. I mean, isn't 99% of the software in ubuntu written by somebody outside the ubuntu team?
[06:57] <Wuilliam> :( nooo, nothing happened, i'm have this error in starting instalation: [XXXXXXXX.XXXXXX]  ata1: command 0xC8 timeout stat 0x50 host_stat 0x64, i'm reading but no1 can help me, are any1 here than can help me?
[06:57] <elwario91> hello
[06:57] <sanityx> Do they actually modify the code of the third party apps?
[06:57] <orangey> There is a partition on the drive, and I want to assign it to a directory. This was doable during installation with ubiquity. The assumption is that it was manipulating fstab. I want to do that during regular use. How do I do that The Ubuntu way. No, gvim is not the ubuntu way.
[06:57] <Dr_willis> denis_on_ubuntu,  thers similer tools.. but wireless on linux can be a bit confusing at times. sadly
[06:57] <elwario91> How to do to compile GTK2 with anjuta?
[06:58] <denis_on_ubuntu> yeah, i cant get it to work :(
[06:58] <ochosi> just a quick general question: if fullscreen video playback via tvout doesn't run smoothly, is it definitely due to old hardware? (pIII 450mhz, 256ram, atirage128 32mb, 14gb hdd)
[06:59] <linux_manju> denis_on_ubuntu, May be you should try kismet
[06:59] <sanityx> ochosi, not DEFINITELY, but highly likely.
[06:59] <denis_on_ubuntu> if it ype iwconfig i get: iwconfig IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311", Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:59] <denis_on_ubuntu> Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:59] <denis_on_ubuntu> it's almost like its off
[07:00] <denis_on_ubuntu> anyone have any idea what all that stuff means? like is my wireless even configured to receive a signal?
[07:01] <jamison_> how do you get vm ware to reconize a  usb drive?
[07:02] <xtknight> jamison_, shared folders or direct usb interfaec
[07:02] <ochosi> sanityx, any ideas what to try to save system power (apart from moving to xubuntu)?
[07:03] <xtknight> ochosi, tickless kernels can save some power.  they have one in the next fedora core afaik, but u can make one for ubuntu with a RT patch.  running <IP_ADDRESS> w/ tickless atm myself
[07:03] <jamison_> how do i set that up
[07:03] <slippyr4> hi all, does anyone know of a gui (gtk ideally) frontend to ssh? to make it easier to setup port forwarding etc
[07:03] <rwxr-xr--> is any log file which one records system boot info like if any problem in hardware scan on startup or checking file system .. so any log file whichone have this related info?
[07:05] <xtknight> jamison_, linux host and windows guest?
[07:05] <jamison_> yes
[07:05] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, /var/log/syslog ?
[07:05] <ochosi> xtknight thought this stuff only worked with newer hardware..?
[07:06] <jamison_> yes linux host
[07:06] <xtknight> ochosi, dont think so. afaik xp is tickless.  what pc/notebook?
[07:06] <xtknight> jamison_, either enable USB for the VM or enable shared folders in the VM's properties
[07:07] <amorphous_> hey martian - you still there?
[07:09] <ochosi> xtknight pc: pIII 450mhz, 256ram, atirage128 32mb, 14gb hdd
[07:09] <xtknight> ochosi, ah as long as you're running i386 you should be able to use the kernel tickless/realtime patches
[07:10] <ochosi> xtknight, okidoke, i assume i have to spend a night compiling my new kernel... :)
[07:10] <genii> orangey Still looking for some gui mount tool?
[07:10] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : this File have not that info what i want.. i m saying that when systam going start linux scan all drivers. mounting drives and to check all filesystem. i have a problem in check all filesystem in that options its show nothing "OK" message
[07:10] <orangey> genii: yes sir/ma'am
[07:11] <genii> orangey You are definitely using gnome and not kde, yes?
[07:11] <xtknight> ochosi, grab some beer , head to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 and have fun :O  patches are here http://people.redhat.com/mingo/realtime-preempt/, i used older/patch-2.6.20-rt8  for kernel <IP_ADDRESS> full
[07:11] <peterbe> Why doesn't this work? if [ `date +%M` > 15 ] ; then
[07:12] <peterbe> It returns true nomatter what time it is.
[07:12] <ph8> hey guys! how can i change the default system pdf reader?
[07:12] <Merv> o_0
[07:12] <genii> orangey Anyhow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMount
[07:12] <ochosi> xtknight alright, thanks man!
[07:13] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, sorry i'm not sure if that stuff is even logged
[07:13] <slippyr4> is there a vncviewer built in to edgy? how do i start it/
[07:13] <ardchoille> ph8: right click a pdf file, choose properties, go to the open with tab and set it up
[07:13] <xtknight> slippyr4, vncviewer in terminal?
[07:13] <Merv> Unkomo ingazal ubuntu ?
[07:13] <xtknight> !nl | Merv
[07:13] <ubotu> Merv: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:13] <slippyr4> xtknight, i thought there was a snazzier one though that allowed you to set options and stuff
[07:13] <xtknight> slippyr4, for linux? hrm i dont know
[07:13] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, .. there is a msg like fsinfo something not creating sector.. not sure for actual whole error
[07:13] <Merv> ah lol, nice feature ;P
[07:14] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, during fsck?  just run fsck on the drive ?
[07:14] <orangey> genii: yep. I'm on ubuntu
[07:14] <denis_on_ubuntu> when i type iwconfig i get eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311", Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid ,  RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off, Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0, Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0,  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0 - anyone have any ideas what the problem may be?
[07:14] <orangey> genii: truth be told, it's not for me.. I have always used fstab.
[07:14] <orangey> so anybody I put it on with would be gnome-only
[07:14] <slippyr4> xtknight, or remote desktop client, or soemthing like that
[07:14] <nixnoob> whats the command from cli for archive manager?
[07:14] <xtknight> slippyr4, depends if you use rdc or vnc protocol..
[07:14] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,  the volume is fine on after bootup.. but during system boot this option creates problem /dev/hda5
[07:14] <xtknight> nixnoob, file-roller
[07:14] <ardchoille> nixnoob: file-roller
[07:15] <slippyr4> xtknight: well, the server is an ubuntu machine's logged in user's desktop
[07:15] <xtknight> slippyr4, probably vnc if youre using general desktop sharing
[07:15] <xtknight> slippyr4, rdc v4/v5 is xp/vista respectively
[07:15] <denis_on_ubuntu> when i type iwconfig i get eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311", Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid ,  RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off, Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0, Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0,  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0 - anyone have any ideas what the problem may be?
[07:15] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : the file system is vfat for that partition whichone creates problem on boot
[07:16] <slippyr4> xtknight, ok. i just found gnome-rdp in synaptic. might this be what i want?
[07:16] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, run fsck on it.  "sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/hda5"
[07:16] <xtknight> slippyr4, youd need an rdp server for ubuntu, thats an rdp client
[07:16] <xtknight> slippyr4, you have a vnc server (gnome desktop sharing) on the linux pc unless you setup an rdp
[07:17] <slippyr4> ok
[07:17] <xtknight> denis_on_ubuntu, what is the problem?
[07:17] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : can i paste 4 lines on main? or in ur pvt?
[07:17] <rwxr-xr--> there is a problem
[07:17] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ok just pm me
[07:18] <rwxr-xr--> i pasted..
[07:19] <omha> i just tool dell's linux survey between the linux dists i could pick i found ubuntu :D
[07:19] <denis_on_ubuntu> xtknight
[07:19] <omha> took*
[07:19] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, i responded in pm
[07:20] <rwxr-xr--> i dont get any msg
[07:20] <ardchoille> omha: :)
[07:20] <xtknight> alright maybe it's a nick reg problem i'll repost here
[07:20] <rwxr-xr--> ok
[07:20] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, not a very common issue ("FSINFO sector").  maybe run fsck without -a next time.   supposedly without the "-a" (automatically fix) option, it will prompt you to create a FSINFO sector,  then press yes
[07:20] <orangey> genii: hmm. This is not exactly what I'm looking for. The current setup doesn't even show the NTFS partition in places or places > computer, which seems to be the starting point for this thing.
[07:20] <ardchoille> xtknight , rwxr-xr-- xtknight isn't id'd to nickserv, so rwxr-xr-- won't get any pm replies
[07:20] <xtknight> ardchoille, yeah figured
[07:22] <rwxr-xr--> i tried to run without -a syntax its asking me to createone for 1 AND 2 for Do without FSINFO
[07:22] <slippyr4> xtknight, i installed the remote desktop client, and it worked (whereas running vncviewer from the shell didn't). i just entered the hostname and selected vnc for the protocol. thanks!
[07:22] <dimeotane> Can I get this command  bugproofed?   I want to make sure it's right before posting it on my blog.  This code should do a nice clean sweep of your thumbnails directory  (sometimes 100's of mb in size) and is better than delete.  And could be automatically run in chron....  $ find ~/.thumbnails/normal -type f -exec shred {} \;
[07:22] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight, : 1 is for me?
[07:23] <RainCT> Hi, how can I configure the calendar in the top bar to work with another program instead of Evolution?
[07:23] <lisapc> if I chose port forwarding in modem, can I always reset modem to factoary defaults?
[07:23] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, what?
[07:23] <faceface> ach... what wireless network configuration tools do people use
[07:23] <rwxr-xr--> xtknight,: i tried to run without -a syntax its asking me to createone for 1 AND 2 for Do without FSINFO
[07:23] <ardchoille> RainCT: I have been looking for a way to do that for two years
[07:23] <xtknight> rwxr-xr--, ah yes 1
[07:23] <rwxr-xr--> okie thanks
[07:23] <xtknight> faceface, network-manager
[07:24] <xtknight> slippyr4, hrm so RDC works for vnc?  never knew.  thanks for the report though.  rdc client gives you extra options?
[07:24] <RainCT> ardchoille: and you haven't found it?
[07:24] <faceface> xtknight, what config does network-manager read? because my version fails to 'see' eth1 (my network card)
[07:24] <ardchoille> RainCT: No
[07:24] <RainCT> ardchoille: :(
[07:25] <rogue780> RainCT, ardchoille, ya'll could just write another plugin to use thunderbird vice evolution
[07:25] <active> hi
[07:25] <slippyr4> xtknight, no, it wasnt using rdc - i picked protocol as vnc. but it seems that the remote desktop client works (as vnc) whereas the plain ole vncviewer doesn't
[07:25] <RainCT> rogue780: thunderbird has calendar? :o
[07:25] <faceface> sudo NetworkManager --no-daemon ... shows only eth0
[07:25] <ardchoille> rogue780: Are you kidding? I can barely type as it is, lol
[07:25] <active> can any one help me install a daul boot on my lap top with ubuntu and windows xp pleae
[07:25] <faceface> eth0, is missing and so are all the local wireless ap...
[07:26] <gopp> !twonky
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twonky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <ardchoille> RainCT: Thunderbird has a calendar plugin that looks very similar to Sunbird
[07:26] <gopp> any here setup twonkymedia on ubuntu
[07:26] <gopp> !gmedia
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <AtypicalChuck> Hey guys :)
[07:26] <slippyr4> next question, running gksu gdmsetup is giving me an error: Failed to run gdmsetup, The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. any ideas?
[07:26] <faceface> wireless is giving me such a pain on ubuntu since nm broke