[04:51] <theuser1> my dyndns.com ddclient is not running and giving the following errors. http://pastebin.com/m18274ac6 can any one help please ?
[04:51]  * skierpage crosses fingers for the reboot into heaven or hell !
[04:51] <Firefishe> good luck skierpage
[04:51] <codelearner> 9.04 is awesome, need a dual boot config with XP
[04:51] <wrektjet> bah. im getting permission denied for /etc/fstab
[04:51] <Mechdave> Ok any gnome applet experts here? I need to add a 3rd party applet to the gnome panel, does anyone have any pointers?
[04:51]  * Swish rubs hands... soon we'll see how 9.04 runs in vmware workstation 6.5 :)
[04:51] <B> xfurious, will attempt again
[04:52] <bitter_twitter> i am not able to upgrade to 9.04 ive tried the apt-get update ->apt-get upgrade->apt-get dist-upgrade but it dosent update to 9.04, just updates the system packages
[04:52] <malduin> Swish, I have it running under VMware Fusion. Working fine so far.
[04:52] <Cortney> Hi again. I was here earlier...still need help with getting my webcam to work.. when someone gets chance. Thanx
[04:52] <Mechdave> wrektjet, you will need to use sudo to edit that file
[04:52] <dooner> bitter_twitter, are you running 8.10 LTS?
[04:52] <Swish> malduin, good to hear :)
[04:52] <skierpage> codelearner, are you asking?  https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/switching/dualboot.html helps
[04:52] <codelearner> virtualbox ?
[04:52] <Mechdave> wrektjet, eg: sudo nano -B /etc/fstab
[04:52] <uncmar> wrektjet: first back it up, then use sudo gedit /etc/fstab  to change the file.
[04:52] <wrektjet> oh sudo  nano
[04:53] <wrektjet> yeesh thanks
[04:53] <codelearner> thanks Skierpage
[04:53] <ha1331> theuser1 possibly no permissions to write those files
[04:53] <bitter_twitter> dooner, sorry i dont know about LTS
[04:53] <Mechdave> wrektjet, yep, no worries
[04:53] <wrektjet> it always comes back to sudo with me
[04:53] <bitter_twitter> dooner, how can i check ?
[04:53] <uncmar> bitter_twitter: LTS = Long Term Support.  He is referring to 8.04 LTS
[04:53] <theuser1> ha1331: what should i do? what proces or file is started on system boot for this client to run?
[04:54] <maxxist> wrekjet my favourite command is.  "sudo -s"
[04:54] <uncmar> dooner: I don't know of a 8.10 LTS.
[04:54] <bitter_twitter> dooner,uncmar  i am on 8.10
[04:54] <xfurious> bitter_twitter: im bitter bout twitter too. i was hbfo :-P
[04:54] <ubuntunoobneedin> how do i identify my wifi card so i can search for driver just did upgrade from 8.1 to 9.4 and for some reason lost my wifi
[04:54] <Firefishe> 8.04 is the most recent LTS, isn't it?
[04:54] <B> xfurious,  ok, it downloaded it and installed from terminal. Now do i open hardware drivers to actually use it?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[04:54] <uncmar> maxxist: careful, that can get you in trouble.  but yeah, I've used that a few times myself.
[04:54] <andrewfree> So I'm reading this and I'm on the mysql part. http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/12/lamp-installation-on-ubuntu  Its saying to run this "mysqladmin -u root password newpassword" but thats not valid
[04:54] <bitter_twitter> xfurious, ;)
[04:54] <dmbfan> xfurious: me again.  when i X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf it gives me an error message saying no screens found
[04:54] <ha1331> theuser1 not a clue about that, just checked the pastebin. You start it with init.d script or manually?
[04:55] <maxxist> uncmar hehe.  only if you dont know what you are doing.
[04:55] <theuser1> ha1331: i didnt started iit.
[04:55] <malduin> Swish, I had to install xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse manually to get the mouse working with vmware tools. Found that in the forums.
[04:55] <xfurious> B: this is likely, but you could try it out anyway by force restarting X and running 'glxgears' to check if your accelerated
[04:55] <theuser1> ha1331: well started manuly
[04:55] <uncmar> maxxist: I know what I'm doing.  but fumble fingers and speed can be very dangerous as well.
[04:55] <dooner> uncmar, /sigh  yeah 8.04 LTS, I've been at the noc too long (going on 16 hours...)
[04:56] <ha1331> try sudo <what_ever_command_starts_it> if it works you know why it didnt work and then figure out safe solution
[04:56] <Swish> malduin, I'm noting that, thanks
[04:56] <skierpage> thanks everyone!
[04:56] <maxxist> uncmar i always have one terminal window open with root access.  and one with user land.
[04:56] <ubuntunoobneedin> can anyone give me a suggestion trying to get wifi working
[04:56] <B> xfurious, right, it was not shown in "hardware drivers", so in terminal I type: force restart x?
[04:56] <ha1331> theuser1 what I said before was intended for you
[04:57] <psychic> tech assistance please
[04:57] <bitter_twitter> dooner, i am on 8.10, help me upgrade to 9.04...i have tried updating my system but the upgrade to 9.04 dosent show up
[04:57] <ubuntunoobneedin> how do i identify my wifi card so i can search for driver just did upgrade from 8.1 to 9.4 and for some reason lost my wifi
[04:57] <uncmar> psychic: we aren't psychic so ask the question.
[04:57] <psychic>  anyone know of a tor package for jaunty
[04:57] <Swish> bitter_twitter, I don't actually know but I'm guessing... so did you apt-get install update-manager-core?   and then did you do-release-upgrade -d ?
[04:57] <theuser1> ha1331:  how to add it in init.d?
[04:57] <psychic> sorry uncmar
[04:57] <uncmar> ubuntunoobneedin: depends.  lsusb for usb or lspci for pcmcia or pci.
[04:57] <Swish> or is it -p ..
[04:57] <dmbfan> can someone help me, im trying to reconfigure xserver, and when i X -configure it says i have a fatal error: no screens found
[04:57] <Swish> I'm pretty sure it's -d :)
[04:57] <dmbfan> any ideas
[04:57] <ubuntunoobneedin> onboard
[04:58] <ha1331> theuser1not qualified to tel you how to set it up properly, so I dont even try. What I said is just for you to figure out why it doesn't work
[04:58] <bitter_twitter> Swish: i havent installed update-manager-core
[04:58] <Swish> bitter_twitter, try that.  that's how you're supposed to do it now
[04:59] <timo> btw any one know when ubuntu will be able to suspend and hibernate
[04:59] <ha1331> theuser1 not a clue, not familiar with custom init scripts in ubuntu. Prettu sure that google can help you with that
[04:59] <Swish> (vs. changing all the distro names in apt's sources.list then dist-upgrading)
[04:59] <Lazermann> Does anyone know where to get the right driver/module for Agere pci modem to run it on Ubuntu 8.10 via Toshiba Satellite??? Tried different way but no luck so far...it is undetected Any help will be appreciated. TIA
[04:59] <Cortney> I know absolutly nothing about linux or ubuntu
[04:59] <psychic> uncmar u got any ideas? or could u tell me what network manager xubuntu uses
[04:59] <bitter_twitter> Swish: update-manager-core is already the newest version
[04:59] <sebsebseb> Cortney: ok  well I do :)
[04:59] <buptlpf> hi,anybody know intel graphics in 9.04 issue?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> Cortney: what do you want to know?
[04:59] <yoasif> timo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume
[04:59] <Swish> bitter_twitter, okay, so what happens if you "do-release-upgrade -d"  ?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: well kind of,  heard of it etc
[04:59] <yoasif> timo: please use that page and file a bug report
[05:00] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: as far as I know your not really going to get much luck
[05:00] <Cortney> lol My Dad got me to install ubuntu and now I cant get things working right and he tells sends me in here lol I need to know how to get my web cam to work
[05:00] <nephish> i am having a weird go with ppa awesome 3, and what is weird is when i run gnome, i can play Urban Terror, but when in awesome, it is really choppy. seems like it should be the other way around?
[05:00] <uncmar> psychic: I don't have or have ever installed xubuntu. so I don't know.  Hopefully someone else will catch your question and help out.
[05:00] <maxxist> dmbfan   try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:00] <xfurious> B: type 'sudo killall Xorg'
[05:00] <amdFANBOY> hi, just upgraded to 9.04, i have two internal disks, i'm booting off of one, and the other in the install i set the mount point to a directory that didn't exist, /docs/80gig.  it created that directory, but i can't write to it, its owned by root.  so i just gotta change the permissions on this folder /docs, right?
[05:00] <timo> thanks yoasif
[05:00] <bitter_twitter> Swish: its searching... hang on
[05:00] <sebsebseb> Cortney: I see
[05:00] <xfurious> B: that will force restart X
[05:00] <Cortney> I went to the web site someone in here gave me, but I am sorry it didnt make sense to me
[05:00] <psychic> lazermann try enabling restricted drivers
[05:00] <xfurious> B: make sure your stuff is saved
[05:00] <buptlpf> sebsebseb: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[05:00] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: Intel sucks for graphics by the way
[05:01] <uncmar> buptlpf: I've heard that 9.04 has compiz disabled by default for intel graphics.
[05:01] <psychic> uncmar thanks
[05:01] <B> xfurious, no prob... it should come back with downloaded drivers active?
[05:01] <theuser1> how can i make a file app to run everytime on system boot ?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> Cortney: maybe you can understand this what the bot is about to give
[05:01] <sebsebseb> !webcam |  Cortney
[05:01] <Lazermann> psychic HOW?
[05:01] <kholerabbi1> anyone know if is possible to use qt applications with globalmenu?
[05:01] <dmbfan> anyone know why when i try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i can only edit my keyboard data adn it gives me an error about overwrite backups...
[05:02] <sebsebseb> Cortney: also there's a program that can be installed  called  cheese for testing web cams,  I haven't used it personalley though, since I don't have a webcam
[05:02] <buptlpf> sebsebseb: Do you know any fix to solve it?
[05:02] <psychic> lazermann go to....
[05:02] <digital_1> Need some help from the experts...  When I try to disable keyboard repeat from the terminal, using "xset -r" I then get hit with an unending stream of Enter Key presses and I can't stop it.
[05:02] <digital_1> it forces me to reboot
[05:02] <digital_1> to clear it
[05:02] <wrektjet> does this sound about right for an fstab mounting: /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_AU.utf8
[05:03] <psychic> lazermann message me...
[05:03] <theuser1> how can i make a file app to run everytime on system boot ?
[05:03] <oz1mar> i've seen that before huh uncmar?
[05:03] <oz1mar> lol
[05:03] <oz1mar> ttttttttt
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> theuser1: add it to startup applications.
[05:03] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: 8.10  wireless was a rather common issue,  now it seems Intel is for 9.04 hum
[05:03] <dmbfan> i need some help
[05:03] <sebsebseb> dmbfan: with?
[05:03] <theuser1> IndyGunFreak:  how
[05:03] <bitter_twitter> Swish: its downloading something related to jaunty, i think this is it... thanks !! :)
[05:03] <digital_1> Does xset -r not working anymore?
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> theuser1: sys/pref/startup applications
[05:03] <ha1331> theuser1 got it to work?
[05:04] <Swish> bitter_twitter, welcome :)
[05:04] <gm|lap> theuser1: if you're wanting it to happen on *boot*, not *login*, read about "cron"
[05:04] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: i'll have a look at link hold on
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> gm|lap: you're absolutely correct, i was thinking on login
[05:04] <uncmar> theuser1: there are a few places... What level?
[05:04] <oz1mar> man xset
[05:04] <theuser1> what about init.d or rclocal            IndyGunFreak gm|lap uncmar
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> theuser1: are you just wanting it to start when you log in?
[05:04] <egc> if i reformat a drive does it always create the fs as root-owned?
[05:05] <theuser1> IndyGunFreak:  i want it to run at sys boot
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> theuser1: ok.. disregard, i misunderstood the question.
[05:05] <oz1mar> -r on?
[05:05] <xfurious> B: im not sure, but after its back you should be able to login, open a terminal, and type glxgears. if its got a high framerate (more than 500 bare minimum, then its probably working)
[05:05] <egc> in other words, is there a way to avoid having to go in and chown the fs on the external drive later?
[05:05] <buptlpf> sebsebseb: I have not  met wireless issue in 8.10...I am considering if i need go back to 810
[05:05] <thechris_> I need help.  I want to play a DVD in VLC
[05:05] <scunizi> egc: yes
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> thechris_: install libdvdcss2
[05:05] <digital_1> oz1mar:  Its the xset r off that makes it go crazy
[05:05] <thechris_> and get "libdvdread: Invalid main menu IFO"
[05:05] <scunizi> egc: except what's in /home
[05:05] <uncmar> theuser1: then I think that falls under init.d  scripts.  but I don't recall exactly how.
[05:06] <oz1mar> hmm
[05:06] <xfurious> B: if you arent sure, maximize the glxgears window, which will make the framerate slow much more
[05:06] <digital_1> I wouldn't type that tho or you'll lose keyboard
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> thechris_: add the medibuntu repo, then install libdvdcss2..
[05:06] <campee> does anyone know how to get the reminder that a program is running to go away when you close the terminal in 9.04?
[05:06] <theuser1> ok
[05:06] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: well  I expect you didn't even do 9.04 on Ext4?
[05:06] <egc> scunizi: i have an external USB drive that i formatted with gPartEd and it always seems to make the fs as root-owned...
[05:06] <thechris_> IndyGunFreak: libdvdcss2 is not available but is reffered to by another package
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> thechris_: did you listen to a word i said?... add the medibuntu repo
[05:07] <gm|lap> theuser1: actually, i think you'll need to look into /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d (SysV boot)
[05:07] <sebsebseb> buptlpf:  I gave the link a brief look, looks like there aren't really any fixes yet
[05:07] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: that are available in the Ubuntu repo
[05:07] <IndyGunFreak> !medibuntu | thechris_
[05:07] <nibsa1242> how do I get hardware acceleration for my X200M graphics in 9.04?
[05:07] <egc> even if i run GPartEd as me...
[05:07] <scunizi> egc: that you can change. using chown and chmod.. if you what the drive accessable by any machine/anyone then chmod 777 the drive
[05:07] <campee> or you could do 744 and make it read only
[05:08] <campee> 777 means they can change stuff :(
[05:08] <egc> scunizi: yeah, i ended up doing that...
[05:08] <gm|lap> theuser1: i think you can use /etc/rc.local as a script
[05:08] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: going back to 8.10  would be alright,   not that much in 9.04 anyway,  nothing worth it as such,   except Ext4 for those that have that set up
[05:08] <altus-dominus> hey guys
[05:08] <scunizi> egc: 777 means anyone anywhere can change it..
[05:08] <gm|lap> and run it
[05:08] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: 8.10 has another year of suppourt.  and 9.10 is out end of October
[05:08] <scunizi> yep
[05:08] <gm|lap> (or, if it's a folder, they can enter it)
[05:08] <altus-dominus> need help please. i just upgraded to 9.04 and unable to install Miro. get the following error,miro: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:08] <evilbug> is ext4 superior to ext3?
[05:08] <campee> does anyone know how to get the reminder that a program is running to go away when you close the terminal in 9.04?
[05:08] <egc> scunizi: ok thanks
[05:08] <hatah> since the new update, when ever I run screen, it looks likes this http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8563/screenshota.png : can anyone help?
[05:08] <sebsebseb> evilbug: faster  Ubuntu disk checking, better with bigger files, that kind of thing
[05:09] <scunizi> egc: np
[05:09] <dooner> evilbug, well 4 > 3 so sure :)
[05:09] <magcius> Bah. Firefox is frozen. kill -9 `pidof firefox` does nothing.
[05:09] <wrektjet> cool i successfully edited fstab and the files are there in media...
[05:09] <evilbug> sebsebseb- then i'm going to switch to it :D
[05:09] <wrektjet> how do i make it mount automatically on startup?
[05:09] <evilbug> dooner- :|
[05:09] <scunizi> hatah: so what's the issue?
[05:09] <sebsebseb> evilbug: it's not 100%  stable in 9.04 yet though
[05:09] <wrektjet> what i meant to ask is how do i make my ntfs partition automatically mount ion startup
[05:09] <hatah> you see the white bar at the bottom?
[05:09] <evilbug> sebsebseb- scratch what i said earlier then.
[05:09] <uncmar> !fstab wrektjet
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> wrektjet:  if you edited fstab file properly.. it will auto mount at boot up
[05:10] <buptlpf> sebsebseb: Ok,thanks for your kindly help
[05:10] <uncmar> !fstab > wrektjet
[05:10] <dooner> evilbug, I am running in on my netbook and haven't had any issues, haven't enabled it on my workstation yet
[05:10] <dooglus> wrektjet: if it's in fstab, it should happen at boot time
[05:10] <sebsebseb> evilbug: and you need to clean install  for full suppourt
[05:10] <hatah> it's annoying, Is there a way to remove it?
[05:10] <scunizi> hatah: yep.. looks like it has something to do with the theme you're using
[05:10] <wrektjet> oh cool thnx
[05:10] <dooglus> wrektjet: try umounting it, then 'mount -a' - if that remounts it, it'll mount at boot
[05:10] <evilbug> sebsebseb- was planning on that.
[05:10] <hatah> I'm not running a theme, so to speak.
[05:10] <thechris_> IndyGunFreak: well that didnt work.
[05:10] <dooglus> sebsebseb: who let you in here?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: this computer I will clean install and  do  9.04 with  Ext4 soonish.  I been trying when in development.   the other computer is either staying 8.04  or going 8.10,  probably going 8.10,  but 9.04 nah
[05:10] <evilbug> dooner- it's fine, it's not my main os so i can afford to break it and reinstall a bunch.
[05:10] <IndyGunFreak> thechris_: then you did something wrong
[05:10] <hatah> however, my gnome has always looked like this, and after I update last night to the lastest version, my screen look has changed
[05:10] <claytronic> anyone encounter hibernate issues after upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04?
[05:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrektjet: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=custom&ct=res&cd=2&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FMountingWindowsPartitions%2FThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:11] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: unless it's going 9.10 in the future without a clean isntall, meaning I would have to upgrade through 9.04
[05:11] <scunizi> hatah: it may be a new default theme.. just change it .. look at what's available on irssi's site..
[05:11] <magcius> asdf
[05:11] <nibsa1242> can I use Catalyst 9.3 with Jaunty?
[05:11] <magcius> sorry bout that
[05:11] <maxxist> off topic router problem.  I can no longer log into my router through firefox.  it gives me an invalid certificate error.  anyone know where my certificates are stored so I can remove it and get a new one from my router???
[05:11] <altus-dominus> anybody please ?
[05:11] <pace_t_zulu> sorr wrektjet
[05:11] <hatah> scunizi: irssi was only an example of something I screen / when I run "screen" command, it takes me to an ssh session on my own box.
[05:11] <pace_t_zulu> wrektjet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[05:11] <oz1mar_> wow
[05:11] <epicreviews> what is the most "Windows Media Player" like music player?
[05:11] <hatah> with that white line at the bottom.
[05:11] <claytronic> first. open the cmd prompt window
[05:11] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: just want to point out,  with  Ubuntu it's not about what is new, it's about what is suppourted
[05:12] <Kryo09> looce: are you still there?
[05:12] <claytronic> start > run > type cmd > click OK
[05:12] <thechris_> IndyGunFreak: libdvdcss2 is already they newest version
[05:12] <mr_frostee> epic: Movie Player
[05:12] <scunizi> hatah: ah.. am i confusing things?.. the white bar is there even when irssi isn't loaded?
[05:12] <sebsebseb> buptlpf: you can always  go  back to 8.10 and  try 9.04 again when there is  a proper fix for the Intel graphics issues
[05:12] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: isn't there a link toward the bottom of that page that let's you add the exception?
[05:12] <IndyGunFreak> thechris_: all i can say, is it works fine for me
[05:12] <sebsebseb> !ot |  dooglus
[05:12] <pace_t_zulu> wrektjet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[05:12] <wrektjet> im good with the mounting q's guys. rebooting now. thnx for everyones help
[05:12] <leachim6> hey
[05:12] <dooglus> lol
[05:12] <sebsebseb> dooglus: I was going to pm that
[05:12] <sebsebseb> !lol >  dooglus
[05:13] <leachim6> I'm trying to use notify-send to give me some info about my currently playing Mpd song
[05:13] <hatah> scunizi: correct, when ever I execute the screen command on it own, or in conjuction with another program, it appears.
[05:13] <leachim6> I wrote a small python script...than when ran outputs a string of info
[05:13] <thechris_> IndyGunFreak: eh, i think i've still got gentoo on this box.  probably easier just to go with what works.
[05:13] <leachim6> I try to pipe that into notify-send and I always get an error "wrong amount of arguments"
[05:13] <Kryo09> all, I have a problem
[05:13] <epicreviews> Movie Player is nothing like WMP
[05:13] <maxxist> digitalchemist no it just says try again.  and I looked in my certificates under prefernces and there is none listed.  this is not just an ubuntu problem.  firefox in windoze has the same issue.  but i can log in from internet exploder.
[05:13] <scunizi> hatah: screen has theme's too.. some do weird stuff.
[05:13] <beoba> while installing flashplugin-nonfree on my amd64 machine, i got an error that dpkg segfaulted, now, if i try to install anything with apt-get, i see the following:
[05:13] <beoba> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 20968 package `libpam-runtime': `Replaces' field, invalid package name `
[05:13] <kneeki> How do I go about doing a network discovery type mode? I'm having troubles viewing other PC's on my network via the network browser
[05:13] <hatah> scunizi: thanks anyway, I fixed it - seems as though screen has themes :D
[05:14] <beoba> what do i do now?
[05:14] <leachim6> I am running it like this notify-send -t 5 MPD-Info `mpdcurrentsong-gosd.py`
[05:14] <leachim6> why wouldn't that work?
[05:14] <nibsa1242> can I use Catalyst 9.3 with Jaunty?
[05:14] <epicreviews> what's the most "Windows Media Player 11" like Music Player?
[05:14] <Chaorain> I may be getting a new hard drive with a factory image on it. I would like to back it up to restore myself at any time. Is there a way to back it up with out getting any empty space on the hard drive in the image?
[05:14] <hatah> brb,, neeed to scren
[05:14] <IndyGunFreak> nibsa1242: why couldn't you?
[05:14] <theuser1> gm|lap:  ok
[05:14] <leachim6> epicreviews, hmm...that'd probably be banshee
[05:14] <sebsebseb> leachim6: really?
[05:14] <digital_1> ok so if I've found a bug, what is the best way to report it?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> leachim6: and yeah I like recommending Banshee
[05:14] <dooglus> epicreviews: did you try "Windows Media Player 10"?  that's quite similar
[05:14] <epicreviews> ha ha
[05:14] <Kryo09> i am trying to run the livecd ubuntu and I have an error "ACPI: Aborted because broken padding
[05:14] <Kryo09> pci 0000:02:00.0: unsupported PM cap regs version (7)
[05:14] <Kryo09> crc error
[05:14] <Kryo09> Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (8,1)"
[05:14] <leachim6> dooglus, good one
[05:14] <FloodBot2> Kryo09: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <sebsebseb> !bug |  digital_1
[05:15] <maxxist> digitalchemist this all started after i updated the firmware on the router.  it must have generated a new certificate for itself????
[05:15] <nibsa1242> IndyGunFreak: I don't know if its compatible with the new Xserver
[05:15] <mr_frostee> banshee is great for music
[05:15] <epicreviews> oh god I have to download 40 files
[05:15] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: sounds like it ... check Preferences->Advanced->View Certificates
[05:15] <leachim6> Kryo09, burn the CD slower
[05:15] <sebsebseb> epicreviews: you can  run  WMP11 and 10  in  Wine,  but   Ubuntu has better video and music players really
[05:15] <uncmar> maxxist: there is a method to tell it to ignore the certificate problem.   But I don't remember what it is or where I found it.
[05:15] <dooglus> epicreviews: get a computer to do it for you
[05:15] <arrrghhh> is the restricted-extras package still install flash in jaunty?
[05:15] <leachim6> yeah dude
[05:15] <epicreviews> downloading audacity too
[05:15] <leachim6> amarok is awesome too
[05:15] <scunizi> mr_frostee: exhaile works well too
[05:15] <leachim6> and songbird
[05:15] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: yeah
[05:15] <kevlyn> I have a question, I have 9.04 64-bit installed. I have a Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 in my system and have tried installing drivers through the Hardware Drivers and direct by downloading the drivers from NVIDIA. It seems when I run glxgears I'm only getting approx 2000 fps when I was getting approx 7000 in intrepid. Any insight?
[05:15] <leachim6> and exaile
[05:16] <arrrghhh> my flash is not working anymore.
[05:16] <leachim6> arrrghhh, I had the same problem
[05:16] <wrektjet> yep it automatically mounteed
[05:16] <MrStatic> Ji was curious if anyone knew why my wifi card is being identified as eth2 and not wlan*. It seems to be screwing up a few things because of this. I checked the persistent rules and what not.
[05:16] <leachim6> I just reinstalled it and rebooted and it works fine now
[05:16] <arrrghhh> and i HAVE the restricted-extras problem.  do i need to symlink that .so file?
[05:16] <arrrghhh> i forget what it was.
[05:16] <codelearner> which player has a beter library management then wmp11?
[05:16] <maxxist> digitalchemist yeah there is none listed at all in there.  except for a bunch of corporate ones.....
[05:16] <mr_frostee> Audacity is very good for editing music files
[05:16] <arrrghhh> leachim6, flash specifically, or the restricted extras package>
[05:16] <epicreviews> yes it is
[05:16] <reflous> how do I get rid of my customized GUI settings and just use the default GUI that ubuntu sets up?
[05:16] <sebsebseb> codelearner: try Banshee :)   try amarok,  try rythombox
[05:16] <wrektjet> k new question... what do you do, in a dual boot situation, to make ubuntu the default and start after 3 seconds instead of xp after 30?
[05:16] <scunizi> kevlyn: glxgears isn't a true representation of FPS.. but it is a good way of seeing if the driver is loaded correctly
[05:16] <sebsebseb> codelearner: well maybe not the last two, but Banshee :)
[05:16] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: mine is listed under 'Servers' tab
[05:16] <leachim6> arrrghhh, I used the flashplayer-nonfree package and it worked fine
[05:16] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: change menu.list
[05:17] <codelearner> ok :)
[05:17] <leachim6> but can someone help me here?
[05:17] <arrrghhh> leachim6, i'll try that.
[05:17] <leachim6> who knows how to use notify-osd?
[05:17] <white_skull> #kelantan
[05:17] <sebsebseb> wrektjet:  gksudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <codelearner> thanks :)
[05:17] <dooglus> reflous: GNOME config is spread though a bunch of files in your home directory
[05:17] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: put  Ubuntu at the top
[05:17] <beoba> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 20968 package `libpam-runtime': `Replaces' field, invalid package name `
[05:17] <beoba> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[05:17] <codelearner> Installed 9.04 on usb :)
[05:17] <dooglus> reflous: making a new user will restore the initial layout
[05:17] <uncmar> reflous: I think most of the settings are stored in ~/.gdm  but I wouldn't swear to it.
[05:17] <epicreviews> I've heard banshee recommended a lot, so I hope it's good :)
[05:17] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: where the OS's are mentioned, have Ubuntu at the top
[05:17] <kevlyn> scunizi, I understand that but was curious why there was such a difference between intrepid and jaunty
[05:17] <arrrghhh> leachim6, and you have to reboot?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> epicreviews: yep rather good :)
[05:17] <dooglus> reflous: so will removing all the dot files (incl. directories) in your home.  but that will probably lose other stuff too
[05:17] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: maybe try the 'Add Exception' button and put in the address for your router if there's nothing listed in the 'Servers' tab
[05:17] <Mike_lifeguard> I have a directory in my trash that's locked/read-only so I cannot delete it. How can I empty my trash with sudo in terminal?
[05:17] <leachim6> arrrghhh, well I have no idea why it worked...but it worked fine after I rebooted
[05:18] <white_skull> #kelate
[05:18] <uncmar> reflous: i would suggest backing it up or simply renameing it though.  Likely to cause other problems.
[05:18] <Kryo09> i have pasted a message onto the http://paste site, can someone look into it?
[05:18] <dooglus> uncmar: none of the settings are in .gdm/
[05:18] <epicreviews> does it show album art?
[05:18] <mr_frostee> Banshee works well with iPod and integrates well with last.fm
[05:18] <nibsa1242> can I use Catalyst 9.3 with Jaunty?
[05:18] <arrrghhh> leachim6, hrm... well i'll try it i guess.
[05:18] <leachim6> nibsa1242, why wouldn't you be able to...CPAN is not distro dependant
[05:18] <reflous> dooglus, yeah can't do that, I'm surprised there isn't an easier way
[05:18] <scunizi> kevlyn: no idea.. are you currently using the driver you got direct from nvidia? and is it the 180.5x?
[05:18] <DVS01> how much of a performance loss is there if i use ubuntu installed via wubi, versus on its own partition?
[05:18] <nibsa1242> can I use ATI Catalyst 9.3 with Jaunty?
[05:18] <uncmar> dooglus: learn something new every day.
[05:19] <Kryo09> i have pasted a message onto the http://paste site, can someone look into it?
[05:19] <leachim6> nibsa1242, OHHHHH
[05:19] <dooglus> reflous: it's in things like ~/.gtk*/
[05:19] <leachim6> nibsa1242, you'll have to be more specific haha
[05:19] <leachim6> nibsa1242, I have no idea about that one
[05:19] <sebsebseb> DVS01: depends.  apparnatlly  Wubi uses the Ext2 file system.   instead of  the better Ext3 or even better Ext4
[05:19] <maxxist> digitalchemist good idea.  same results.
[05:19] <reflous> dooglus, what if I load kde & switch back to gnome would that work?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> DVS01: also if  Windows is all  fragmented,  wubi could be slow
[05:19] <dooglus> reflous: nope
[05:19] <Mike_lifeguard> The file is owned by root, so if I make it mine then I can delete it, right? Then how to do that :)
[05:19] <leachim6> sebsebseb, well...that's debatable...while ext2-4 are all DIFFERENT....IDK if any one is better
[05:19] <sebsebseb> DVS01: and of course if Windows messes up properly enough with a virus or whatever,  Ubuntu will as well
[05:19] <leachim6> they all have they're pros and cons
[05:19] <DVS01> sebastien: other than that, does the extra layer of storage cause any significant performance loss?
[05:20] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: not sure where to go from there... are you using http or https?
[05:20] <andre> Anyone here successfully paired a mighty mouse in ubuntu?
[05:20] <dooglus> reflous: you could try switching to kde, renaming ~/.gtk to ~/.gtk.dis and ~/.gtk2 to ~/.gtk2.dis and so forth for anything gtk-ish
[05:20] <Kryo09> hello, can someone help me out?
[05:20] <scunizi> Mike_lifeguard: sudo chmod 777 <path/to/file/file>
[05:20] <dooglus> reflous: if it breaks anything, rename them back
[05:20] <sebsebseb> DVS01: also  wubi is really for noobs that can't partition their hard disk, sometimes their is a rather valid reason to use it on a computer, but not normaley, as a result wubi is  for noobs normalley and   only good for testing
[05:20] <TopBunny98> When will ubuntu officially ship  with ext4 install  default
[05:20] <maxxist> digitalchemist Firefox says "Your certificate contains the same serial number as another certificate issued by the certificate authority.  please get a new certificate containing a unique serial number.
[05:20] <kevlyn> scunizi, yes it's 180.51 that I just downloaded from NVIDIA. GLX seems to be working, at least for things like compiz. I haven't tried any games yet as I need to reinstall some of them
[05:20] <sebsebseb> DVS01: real partitions are better :)  and it's not exactly hard to set up a dual boot
[05:20] <uncmar> What exactly is a wubi install?
[05:20] <dooglus> reflous: and I don't know GNOME well enough to say that there isn't a simple "reset to factory settings" option somewhere - maybe there is
[05:21] <leachim6> does anyone know how to use notify-send ?
[05:21] <leachim6> I can't pipe anything to it
[05:21] <kevlyn> scunizi, was just shocked at the difference in numbers and was curious if I was doing something wrong
[05:21] <scunizi> kevlyn: yes I just installed that one tonight on my Intrepid machine.. seems to work fine
[05:21] <nibsa1242> how hard is it to downgrade 9.04 to 8.10?
[05:21] <sebsebseb> !wubi >  uncmar
[05:21] <claytronic> anyone running Juanty on JFS?
[05:21] <maxxist> digitalchemist i am gonna ask the #firefox channel.
[05:21] <dooglus> uncmar: it's where you install linux inside a linux filesystem which lives in a single large NTFS file
[05:21] <rski> nibsa1242: it's unsupported so i guess kindra hard
[05:21] <maxxist> digitalchemist thanx for the effort
[05:21] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: yeah, that might be more helpful -- good luck
[05:21] <sebsebseb> maxxist: that tends to be dead, but you can also  go on  irc.mozilla.org and into their Firefox channel
[05:21] <andre> Anyone here successfully paired a mighty mouse in ubuntu?
[05:22] <uncmar> dooglus: sorta like colinux.  I'm trying to remember exactly what they called those.
[05:22] <dooglus> uncmar: called what?
[05:22] <claytronic> ok
[05:22] <Mike_lifeguard> scunizi: chmod: cannot access `trash:///_.linuxvpn/vpnclient/.tmp_versions': No such file or directory (O.o ... I guess I can restore it, then chmod and then delete it?)
[05:22] <Kryo09> Can someone help me out with LiveCD?
[05:22] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: is this dd-wrt firmware?
[05:22] <sebsebseb> Kryo09: probably, what's the actaul issue?
[05:22] <uncmar> dooglus: how is the linux Run?  loadlin?
[05:22] <scunizi> Mike_lifeguard: that works too
[05:22] <kevlyn> scunizi, Thank you for your assistance. I will go ahead and reinstall some glx apps and see how it goes.
[05:22] <Mike_lifeguard> no, I can't even do that
[05:22] <leachim6> can someone PLEASE help me with notify-send?
[05:22] <uncmar> dooglus: or is it virtualized?
[05:23] <scunizi> kevlyn: np
[05:23] <maxxist> digitalchemist nope stock linksys
[05:23] <MrStatic> Qas curious if anyone knew why my wifi card is being identified as eth2 and not wlan*. It seems to be screwing up a few things because of this. I checked the persistent rules and what not.
[05:23] <Kryo09> sebsebseb: I have pasted the message onto the http://paste website.
[05:23] <dooglus> uncmar: when I boot, I get the windows bootloader menu, with 'XP' or 'Ubuntu'.  if I pick Ubuntu, I get the grub menu.  I don't know any more about it.
[05:23] <sebsebseb> Kryo09: well I don't have a link
[05:23] <B> xfurious, wow, I killed xorg and the screen went nuts. I rebooted, still went nuts, so I booted into text mode and did sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx, oh well, it was woth a shot
[05:23] <uncmar> Kryo09: paste the actually link.
[05:23] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: well, not sure if it'd be the same then, but I have an entry in 'Authorities' under NewMedia-NET for mine
[05:23] <maxxist> sebsebseb thanx for the tip.  i will check it.
[05:23] <Kryo09> http://paste.ubuntu.com/158306/
[05:23] <leachim6> there was a really good explanation on WUBI here http://twit.tv/floss63
[05:23] <Kryo09> sebsebseb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158306/
[05:24] <Kryo09> or anyone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158306/
[05:24] <leachim6> very interesting
[05:24] <leachim6> has anyone here even heard of notify-send
[05:24] <xfurious> B: hrm try startx from commandline and see the (EE) messages its giving you
[05:24] <syadow_> why my visual effect cannot enable *extra , Desktop effects could not be enabled
[05:24] <leachim6> I need help with it
[05:24] <dooglus> uncmar: it doesn't run inside windows - windows doesn't boot when I run ubuntu even though it's a wubi install.  I imagine just an NTFS driver runs to allow access to the linux fs
[05:24] <Chaorain> I want to remove Grub I can still boot to vista. How do I do this?
[05:24] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, in the lst file only at the very end does it mention XP
[05:24] <sebsebseb> Chaorain: you want to get rid of Ubuntu?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yes
[05:24] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: oh?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: you want Ubuntu to boot up first?
[05:25] <B> xfurious, the slight margin that the screen is shifted to the right isn't so bad now. Should I still do startx; because I am back up and running as it was now
[05:25] <wrektjet> yes
[05:25] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: normalley you just put the one you want to boot up first, at the top
[05:25] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, yes
[05:25] <scunizi> Chaorain: if you remove grub say bye bye to ubuntu
[05:25] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: not top of file, but  the top where  the os's are mentioend
[05:25] <Chaorain> I know. I need my computer looked at by Dell and I don't think thell like ubuntu
[05:25] <Cortney> ok ya no
[05:25] <uncmar> dooglus: kind of like the old loadlin for the FAT32 on win98.  they call it a looplinux install.
[05:25] <dooglus> anyone know if there's some way to make ubuntu the default when booting a wubi install?
[05:26] <sebsebseb> Cortney: hi again, did you see my mesages from before?
[05:26] <dooglus> uncmar: sounds about right
[05:26] <Cortney> with the web address?
[05:26] <maxxist> digitalchemist hey man.  you rock.
[05:26] <sebsebseb> dooglus:  I think wubi/ubuntu also has  the menu.lst for Grub
[05:26] <dooner> dooglus, does wubi use the Windows NT bootloader?
[05:26] <digitalchemist> @dooglus: yes, there is ... you'll need to edit menu.lst
[05:26] <dooglus> uncmar: I find myself running windows a lot of the time because I boot and go do something else while it boots, and it always defaults to windows
[05:26] <andre> dooglus: Have you checked your bios? If you have it partitioned you may be able to tell it which partition to boot first.
[05:26] <uncmar> dooglus: yeah, I could do that.  In fact, you can do that from windows pretty easily.  Assuming you are speaking of WinXP.  Vista shouldn't be much harder.
[05:26] <sebsebseb> dooglus: ,but you first boot from the Windows bootloader
[05:26] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: victory?
[05:26] <wrektjet> can i post a copy of the lst file somewhere
[05:26] <sebsebseb> dooglus: so you need to get that edited,  ask in #windows maybe?
[05:26] <dooglus> dooner: I believe so.  how's that configed?
[05:26] <xfurious> B: well no, it would only show you the errors if you had it installed.
[05:27] <maxxist> digitalchemist hey man.  i looked through there and there was a linksys one.  i exported it to a file and then i deleted it.  now I have the option to add an exception.
[05:27] <yowshi> anyone know how to get Xmacro to use the enter key? because nothing i try works
[05:27] <dooglus> digitalchemist: menu.lst is for grub.  grub only runs if I select 'ubuntu' from the menu - that's the menu I want to default, not grub
[05:27] <digitalchemist> @maxxist: awesome! congrats   :-)
[05:27] <uncmar> dooglus: mentioned a wubi install and that it uses the windows boot loader.
[05:27] <dooglus> sebsebseb: I want the windows bootloader to default to ubuntu
[05:27] <badsu> Hi
[05:27] <B> xfurious, oh, so i should have done that before I uninstalled it. You know if I didn't dual boot I could just adjust the monitor itself
[05:27] <digitalchemist> @dooglus: aha, using XP?
[05:27] <dooner> dooglus, there is a boot.ini file I think you can edit it from the System Thing in control panel and muck with the order (but I don't really have any windows machines...)
[05:27] <dooglus> digitalchemist: yup
[05:27] <codelearner> hey ubuntu 9.04 still uses ext3 at default :P
[05:27] <epicreviews> ok I can't play anything in Banshee
[05:27] <uncmar> dooglus: edit the boot.ini file.
[05:28] <digitalchemist> @dooglus: forgot the name ... boot.ini I think  should be in C:\boot.ini
[05:28] <dooglus> msconfig maybe?
[05:28] <andre> thats another way
[05:28] <uncmar> dooglus: C:\boot.ini   You can change the default there.
[05:28] <maxxist> sebsebseb  the #firefox channel isnt too dead.  I got an answer in there too.
[05:28] <dooglus> thanks y'all
[05:28] <epicreviews> can't play anything in banshee
[05:28] <psychic> any one know how to relaunch volume controls with a run command???
[05:28] <usser> dooglus, right click my computer->properties->advanced its there somewhere
[05:28] <epicreviews> always 'idle'
[05:28] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  wrektjet
[05:28] <dooglus> it says: [operating systems]
[05:28] <dooglus> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
[05:28] <uncmar> dooglus: I'm a windows geek.  Moved to linux in recent years. :)
[05:28] <dooglus> c:\wubildr.mbr="Ubuntu"
[05:29] <codelearner> dooglus
[05:29] <uncmar> dooglus: PM.
[05:29] <leachim6> hey
[05:29] <codelearner> dooglus :  the way to dual boot to ubuntu / windows is to use grub
[05:29] <Itu8> hi
[05:29] <dooglus> uncmar: I don't have one - are you registered?
[05:29] <leachim6> can anyone help me with notify-send?
[05:29] <leachim6> please
[05:29] <sebsebseb> codelearner: no
[05:29] <usser> dooglus, advanced->startup and recovery
[05:29] <epicreviews> can someone help me with banshee?
[05:29] <sebsebseb> codelearner: not when using wubi
[05:29] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, would u mind looking at this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/158312/
[05:29] <dooglus> codelearner: I'm using wubi
[05:29] <codelearner> windows loader cant see your ubuntu install
[05:29] <codelearner> so dont mess up your boot.ini
[05:30] <dooglus> codelearner: no disrespect, but I don't think you know what I'm talking about
[05:30] <epicreviews> nevermind I just got it
[05:30] <codelearner> rather open your grub.conf file in the /boot directory and edit it
[05:30] <uncmar> yes I am regisisterd.
[05:30] <Chaorain> What is the command to remove Grub inside of vista?
[05:30] <epicreviews> that was wierd
[05:30] <usser> dooglus, right click my computer->properties->advanced->startup and recovery, select your default OS
[05:30] <Vubi> whats the best prog for windows emulation on a 64-bit jaunty?
[05:30] <codelearner> ok,
[05:30] <X-722> What is the main advantage of a hard drive install over using Wubi? Or isnt there one, practically speaking?
[05:30] <digitalchemist> @wrektjet: what's the problem? can't boot into Ubuntu?
[05:30] <codelearner> wubi is difgferent :P I didnt use it :P
[05:31] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: ok seen that kind of thing before
[05:31] <wrektjet> no prob. i wanna make ubuntu the default, not xp. and to start after 3 seconds not 30
[05:31] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: can you even boot up Ubuntu?
[05:31] <dooglus> usser: I have 7 tabs in my computer -> properties.  which is 'advanced'?
[05:31] <wrektjet> sure
[05:31] <leachim6> PLEASE
[05:31] <leachim6> can someone help me with notify-send?
[05:31] <Chaorain> X-722, If windows has a problem Wubi has a problem
[05:31] <usser> dooglus, the one labeled advanced
[05:31] <wrektjet> i have to use a diff keybord though ots annoying
[05:31] <scunizi> Vubi: you have lots of options, virtualbox is a favorite for a lot of people.. if you need usb support get it direct from their site, vmware server, qemu, xen etc
[05:31] <usser> dooglus, winXP?
[05:31] <wrektjet> im in ubunto now!
[05:32] <Vubi> scunizi: ok thanks
[05:32] <dooglus> usser: they're all labeled in some kind of gobbledygook
[05:32] <Mechdave> wrektjet, you need to boot Ubuntu to do that
[05:32] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: did you use wubi?
[05:32] <wrektjet> yea
[05:32] <dooglus> usser: XP, yes
[05:32] <epicreviews> I used wubi
[05:32] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: you have used wubi?
[05:32] <wrektjet> was that bad
[05:32] <TopBunny98> !wubi
[05:32] <codelearner> I am infact installing ubuntu on virtualbox
[05:32] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yes wubi is bad for this kind of thing
[05:32] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, i did
[05:32] <wrektjet> oh
[05:32] <sebsebseb> wrektjet:  for what you want to do, wubi is bad
[05:32] <usser> dooglus, well there should be a tab that clearly says 'advanced' :)
[05:32] <Chaorain> X-722, also hard driveinstall  you get hibernation mode Wubi you don't
[05:32] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, what i mean is that i installed 9.04 via the wubi
[05:32] <X-722> Chaorain: Assuming Windows remains stabe though... Hardware work correctly? Meaning, do you have to config your wireless for linux, or does it work through windows on Wubis behalf?
[05:32] <codelearner> wubi is like colinux? can i fire up ubuntu within windows?
[05:33] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yes hence why you don't have a normal grub menu.lst either
[05:33] <sebsebseb> codelearner: no it's not like colinux
[05:33] <sebsebseb> codelearner: and it's not a virtual machine either
[05:33] <codelearner> ok :)
[05:33] <digitalchemist> @codelearner: it's not loke colinux, but I guess you could use a VM to launch the HD-file it creates
[05:33] <scunizi> codelearner: sebsebseb however they are working on a colinux version for wubi..
[05:33] <dooglus> usser: I have tabs labelled 'obnoveni systemu', 'automaticke aktualizace', 'vzdaleny pristup', 'obecne', 'nazev pocitace', 'hardwave', and 'upresnit'
[05:33] <Chaorain> X-722, You still have to reconfigure enverything either way.
[05:33] <wrektjet> so im gonna have to keep this other keyboard plugged in forever :(
[05:33] <leachim6> I know this totally breaks irc ettiquite to ask...
[05:33] <leachim6> but are you guys ignoring me?
[05:33] <X-722> Gotcha
[05:33] <codelearner> hmm
[05:33] <codelearner> ok
[05:33] <dooglus> leachim6: I'm not
[05:34] <sebsebseb> scunizi: what are you talking about?
[05:34] <wrektjet> b/c my logitech usb one doesnt work until the os starts up
[05:34] <digitalchemist> @leachim6: what was your question?
[05:34] <leachim6> dooglus, just nobody knows?
[05:34] <X-722> So which would be preferred, Wubi, or VMWare?
[05:34] <codelearner> I'll rather stick to virtualbox then
[05:34] <Chaorain> X-722, if windows remains stable. BIG IF
[05:34] <codelearner> colinux seems too complex
[05:34] <sebsebseb> X-722: neither,  Virtualbox :)
[05:34] <X-722> Or are they pretty much the same?
[05:34] <microlith> and
[05:34] <dooglus> leachim6: I don't know the answer.
[05:34] <leachim6> when I pipe something to notify-send it always says I have an "invalid number of options"
[05:34] <leachim6> no matter what it is
[05:34] <microlith> ubuntu 9.04 is delicious on my aspire one
[05:34] <scunizi> sebsebseb: on the dev list they've been talking about the possibility of useing the colinux kernel with wubi and ubuntu
[05:34] <X-722> Chaorain: I have good luck with XP, but then again I dont do silly things with my machine  :P
[05:34] <leachim6> notify-send -t 15 "MPD" `mpdcurrentsong-gosd.py`
[05:34] <leachim6> that's what I'm running
[05:34] <dooglus> leachim6: I'll boot into ubuntu once I'm happy with my windows boot.ini and try it...
[05:35] <leachim6> dooglus, thanks
[05:35] <sebsebseb> scunizi: damn  noob distro ideas hum.   Ubuntu should really be about getting people away from Windows more, not the other way round
[05:35] <digitalchemist> @leachim6: I'm not  familiar with notify-send ... I'll look into it real quick
[05:35] <X-722> Just want to get back into Linux, and not sure if a HD install is worth it for me.
[05:35] <Chaorain> X-722, VMWare you are running 2 operating systems at the same time. i.e. SLOW. Wubi just 1 os so faster. Hard drive is a little bit faster than Wubi, but not much
[05:35] <X-722> At least on the laptop I mean
[05:35] <yowshi> anyone know how to get xmacro to use the enter key? because nothing i try works
[05:35] <microlith> sebsebseb: well, the first step is to get people familiar with it
[05:35] <TopBunny98> !notify-send : Iceman_B|SSH
[05:35] <leachim6> it basically just allows you to make your own little messages with the new notify-osd in jaunty
[05:35] <sebsebseb> microlith: well there's already wubi and virtual machines for that
[05:36] <CareT> microlith: do you also experience some issues with maximus?
[05:36] <uncmar> I don't even know wthat leachim6 has be asking.  Had my head turned.
[05:36] <scunizi> sebsebseb: yea.. but if it makes them easier to try then you might be able to capture more totol converts
[05:36] <leachim6> it's kind of like osd-cat
[05:36] <MrStatic> Was curious if anyone knew why my wifi card is being identified as eth2 and not wlan*. It seems to be screwing up a few things because of this. I checked the persistent rules and what not.
[05:36] <microlith> CareT: wrong person I assume?
[05:36] <leachim6> xosd-cat
[05:36] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yeah maybe
[05:36] <digitalchemist> @leachin6: sounds cool ... I don't seem to have it installed though ... which package is it in?
[05:36] <dooner> microlith, are you running UNR on your aspire one?
[05:36] <microlith> dooner: no, stock Ubuntu 9.04
[05:36] <sebsebseb> scunizi: and there's already   something else,   that  runs most Ubuntu apps in Windows,  except the desktop stuff and that
[05:37] <sebsebseb> scunizi: based on hardy though
[05:37] <wrektjet> anyone know of a guide to going from 9.04 basic install to compiz-fusion?
[05:37] <scunizi> sebsebseb: after trying it most will either install as a dual boot, take the whole drive for an install, keep it in wubi for a toy .
[05:37] <sebsebseb> scunizi: something else, more like two something else's
[05:37] <dooner> CareT, i haven't had too many issues with maximus on my aspire one..
[05:37] <codelearner> just give a better package management thing in linux like " click and forget " thing of windows and you'll see people saying good bye to windows :P ( I am lazy :P )
[05:37] <CareT> microlith: no, i also use ubuntu on a aspire one. but i use the "ubuntu-netbook-remix", which uses maximus
[05:37] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: ah yes
[05:37] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: partition :)
[05:38] <microlith> CareT: ah ok, I haven't even looked at UNR yet
[05:38] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: get a normal partitioned install, and  what  I said before, will work, and  then do what you want
[05:38] <scunizi> sebsebseb: it'll be really interesting when kde will run as a desktop replacemnet on windows .. allowing all it's apps to run as well.
[05:38] <uncmar> MrStatic: I have been able to force the setting differentl but I don't know if that would help.  I also don't remember how I did it.  But the answer may be in this laptop.
[05:38] <sebsebseb> scunizi: I don't think that's a good idea
[05:38] <dooner> CareT, the only thing I had issues with on the aspire one is that WPA2 Enterprise connections in wireless are sometimes painful
[05:38] <CareT> microlith: it uses the space of the display quite nice ;-
[05:38] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, you really think its worth doing a new installation?
[05:38] <MrStatic> uncmar: lol I have tried to force itbut it just goes to another eth#
[05:38] <sebsebseb> scunizi: and already quite a lot of the KDE4 apps run natively on Windows and OS X
[05:39] <scunizi> sebsebseb: didn't know that.
[05:39] <usser> scunizi, it already does run
[05:39] <sebsebseb> scunizi: give people a good desktop environment on Windows, and they will just continue using Windows with it, those that know about it
[05:39] <microlith> woo
[05:39] <microlith> that was quick, JP input and network shares in fstab
[05:39] <sun0082> I'm having trouble with dual monitor support. I've got an Nvidia 8800GT powering my two monitors running Jaunty x64. Has anyone encountered this problem?
[05:39] <wrektjet> btw, i use ubuntu BECAUSE the desktop enviornment is better than windows
[05:39] <wrektjet> and the software
[05:39] <wrektjet> and the IRC room :)
[05:39] <maxxist> sun0082 whats seems to be the problem?
[05:40] <sebsebseb> scunizi: cross platform stops vender lock in, and most opensource stuff is, but guess what?   most commercial apps aren't cross platform.  that's what we want.  cross platform  EA games and what not, but no
[05:40] <codelearner> and is free :P
[05:40] <LinuxIdiot> I downloaded Google Earth and I can't login to the server, why would that be?
[05:40] <maxxist> sun0082 I found that using the nvidia-settings app to configure the two monitors worked much better in ubuntu....
[05:40] <sebsebseb> scunizi: cross platform,  Sim City etc,   cross platform Grand Theft Auto etc.   Windows,  Desktop Linux, Mac OS X,  and a few games consoles, but no
[05:40] <scunizi> sebsebseb: there's points on both sides.. but we digress... we're getting ot
[05:40] <CareT> dooner: sadly i cant test wpa2 as my router-all-in-one-humpty-dumpty doesn't let me connect since some time. it worked perfectly ones and just stopted to work some time...
[05:40] <sun0082> I can't get the second display to work, it gives me an error everytime i try to enable it
[05:40] <uncmar> sun0082: I find that using nvidia-settings is so much easier.
[05:41] <fung> hi guys, ever since I upgraded to jaunty, my sound became all weird. alsamixer gives an error, and I can't hear sound from firefox, however amarok and system sounds still work. Anyone know what's going on?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: wubi is only good for testing
[05:41] <digitalchemist> @leachin6: I've got it installed, and the test messages I've been sending it seem to work (libnotify-bin)
[05:41] <Mora> i just upgraded to 9.10, and when I boot the system hangs just after grub and then flashes a modprobe fatal error, then proceeds to boot.  where can i find the modprobe error logs?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: using wubi as a proper install,  for a long period of time, isn't a great idea, for various reasons
[05:41] <magcius> sebsebseb, it's funny... most Indie game developers are porting to Mac OS X and Linux
[05:41] <sun0082> give me a second, i'll paste in the error message i'm getting when i try and enable it
[05:41] <wrektjet> i thought it was just the easiest way to install. so i should burn a cd and reinstall? do i have to remove this install first?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: it's pretty easy to set up a proper dual boot, Windows and Ubuntu
[05:41] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: with real partitions
[05:41] <usser> !info hedgewars
[05:41] <wrektjet> i didnt even realize it wasnt a real partition
[05:42] <magcius> 2D Boy, id Games, 3D Realms
[05:42] <leachim6> nvm...
[05:42] <leachim6> I figured it out on my own
[05:42] <wrektjet> whats the sudo to unistall ubuntu
[05:42] <leachim6> I have to have the `` inside quotes
[05:42] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: how new are you to Ubuntu?
[05:42] <wrektjet> i used 8.10 for a few weeks
[05:42] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: since you installed with wubi, you can just remove it like any normal Windows app
[05:42] <magcius> sebsebseb, there is none.
[05:42] <magcius> sebsebseb, he wants an easy way to upgrade.
[05:42] <digitalchemist> @leachim6: that would have been my guess, but I thought the shell might concatenate
[05:42] <wrektjet> ? now i am confused.
[05:42] <sun0082> ok this is the error: Failed to set MetaMode (2) 'DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1080 +1440+0, DFP-1: nvidia-auto-select @1440x900 +0+0' (Mode 3360x1080, id: 52) on X screen 0
[05:42] <sun0082> Would you like to remove this MetaMode?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: I thought you wanted  Ubuntu, to  be the one that boots up  first by default?
[05:43] <yowshi> better question anyone know if ubuntu's code for enter happens to be something other then Return or Enter?
[05:43] <wrektjet> yes
[05:43] <maxxist> sun0082 is that when using the nvidia-settings program?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yes and it's so easy to  do by editing a normal  grub menu.list
[05:43] <TopBunny98> If I were to not boot into windows for ninety days and only use openoffice to create and modify msoffice  documents  and store the afformetioned documents on my 8gb flash drive, and send a msoffice user(I.e. My father)  one of my openoffice  created documents with a .doc, xls and ppt file extensions  would  i be able to read the document my father returned to me after he edited it with MSoffice 2007 would openoffice be able to read
[05:43] <magcius> yowshi, Ubuntu's code for enter is 13 or 0xD.
[05:43] <sun0082> yes, that is the nvidia program
[05:43] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: that is for  a normal  proper  standard old fashioned partition  dual boot
[05:43] <magcius> yowshi, just like any other system.
[05:43] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, yes. but im confused about removing it via windows. ubuntu is already its own partition no?
[05:43] <uncmar> yowshi: code for Enter?
[05:44] <wrektjet> i dont boot into xp
[05:44] <codelearner> kernel 2.6.28 ?
[05:44] <wrektjet> i boot into ubuntu
[05:44] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: no it's inside a section of your Windows partition
[05:44] <yowshi> magcius: hmmm well when i tried putting what xmacrorec spit out into a file xmacroplay says it cant recognize it
[05:44] <leachim6> digitalchemist, well my script output a quoted string...so I thought that would work...but oddly...no
[05:44] <yowshi> uncmar: : hmmm well when i tried putting what xmacrorec spit out into a file xmacroplay says it cant recognize it
[05:44] <wrektjet> so i should open xp and delete it?
[05:44] <mactimes> Hello there.
[05:44] <wrektjet> and then intsll via the cd
[05:44] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: to remove wubi,  you do it from XP yes
[05:44] <maxxist> sun0082 hmm.  try running a "sudo nvidia-settings"  and configure that way???
[05:44] <CareT> microlith, dooner, maybe you can confirm that maximus is treating a double click on the window title different from a clickt on the butten to maximize the window. first one causes maximus to leave a space at the bottom of the screen as if there was a panal.
[05:44] <uncmar> oh, so you are referring to xmacro files.
[05:45] <wrektjet> ok fair enuff thanks sebsebseb
[05:45] <microlith> dooner might, don't have it on my system
[05:45] <Mora> where are modprobe errors logged in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:45] <yowshi> uncmar: magcius i've been trying to solve this problem because the enter key would be the best solution for my problem
[05:45] <wrektjet> i guess its better  i find this out now than in three months when removing it would be a pain
[05:45] <magcius> yowshi, I doubt that has to do with the "code for Enter"
[05:45] <digitalchemist> @leachim6: do you know if it's possible to pipe data ... cat test | notify-send?
[05:45] <mactimes> Could someone, please, tell me if there is some sort of command which allows me to see if a pre-compiled kernel I'm running has been compiled with some specific options enabled?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: indeed
[05:45] <magcius> Mora, /var/log/syslog
[05:45] <TopBunny98> If I were to not boot into windows for ninety days and only use openoffice to create and modify msoffice  documents  and store the afformetioned documents on my 8gb flash drive, and send a msoffice user(I.e. My father)  one of my openoffice  created documents with a .doc, xls and ppt file extensions  would  i be able to read the document my father returned to me after he edited it with MSoffice 2007 would openoffice be able to read
[05:45] <Mora> magcius: thanks.
[05:45] <leachim6> digitalchemist, nope that doesn't work
[05:45] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and  there are  quite a few advantages of using  real partitions instead of wubi
[05:45] <sun0082> maxxist, may i pm you?
[05:46] <maxxist> sun0082 yep
[05:46] <codelearner> heh , how to get rid of the yellow/orange/brown theme of ubuntu completely?
[05:46] <yowshi> magcius: i was wondering if ubuntu had soem other entry because everything i look up say KeyStrPress Enter or Return or KP_Enter and xmacro doesnt recognize any of them
[05:46] <usser> TopBunny98, as long as he doesnt save it as docx or xlsx, ie 2007 format you should be fine for the most part
[05:46] <uncmar> yowshi: do xmacro files handle or use escaped characters?  like \x0D or \r?
[05:46] <digitalchemist> @leachim6: it's still pretty cool ... someone mentioned using it for things like "make && notify-send 'done compiling'"
[05:46] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: Wubi is  alright for testing, but not that good,  for proper long term Ubuntu usage
[05:46] <Themixer_> Hi Again ^_^
[05:46] <bacon1989> codelearner: appearance theme custom
[05:46] <wrektjet> i did sudo blkid and it showed me dev/loop0 and dev/sda1
[05:46] <wrektjet> so that really one partition?
[05:47] <magcius> wrektjet, Wubi breaks on an upgrade when new kernels are installed.
[05:47] <yowshi> uncmar: is that the same as a keycode?
[05:47] <Mora> magcius: it seems like modprobe hasn't logged its errors, do you know how that is changed?
[05:47] <sebsebseb> magcius: really?
[05:47] <magcius> sebsebseb, happened to me twice.
[05:47] <uncmar> yowshi: \x0D is the hex code for Enter.
[05:47] <yowshi> uncmar: well i can try it
[05:47] <wrektjet> gonna burn a cd now :)
[05:47] <codelearner> ok, my screen is 1400 x 900 but i get 1024 x 768 only ? do i have to manually edit xorg.conf or there is way ?
[05:47] <magcius> Mora, no, sorry, I don't/
[05:47] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: wait
[05:47] <hotdog> How do i get wma codecs
[05:48] <magcius> Mora, man modprobe?
[05:48] <codelearner> I mean some shortcut?
[05:48] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: don't just burn the CD,  md5sum the ISO first
[05:48] <xfurious> what is the name of the command for gnome's audio mixer?
[05:48] <usser> hotdog, w32codecs
[05:48] <uncmar> yowshi: \x0D is a carriage return \x0A is Line Feed.  I don't remember the octal codes.. will have to translate those.
[05:48] <magcius> !wma | hotdog
[05:48] <magcius> !mp3 | hotdog
[05:48] <usser> !medibuntu  | hotdog
[05:48] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  wrektjet
[05:49] <d4rkmonkey> I just updated to 9.04 and now its telling me that I can't use desktop effects, it says no drivers were found but it worked fine 100% before I updated. I have an HP Compaq 6710b, graphic card says Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[05:49] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and when you do your real partitioned install, despite what some people might say here,   I think you should do  Ext4  for your Ubuntu partition :)
[05:49] <uncmar> yowshi: \r \n are generally considered Carriage Return and Line Feed.  but not as universal.
[05:49] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: by default you get Ext3 in 9.04, but you can set up yourself for the other one
[05:49] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, should i maybe install the os on its own small partition?
[05:49] <Mora> d4rkmonkey, intel graphics are not very compatible with the new version - says in the release notes.
[05:50] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: well  basicalley yeah
[05:50] <Ciros> does gnome still use XF86Config?
[05:50] <yowshi> uncmar: no grr it winds up just registering the \ as a keypress
[05:50] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: partitions:   XP,   Ubuntu's / partition  about  16GB and Ext4 :)   a  1GB swap partition or double your RAM, if you can  sleep/hibernate in XP
[05:50] <sebsebseb> !swap |  wrekjet
[05:51] <wrektjet> yes i know swap thnx :)
[05:51] <digitalchemist> Has anyone successfully used unetbootin? I keep getting SYSLINUX prompt that says it could not find the kernel image ... any ideas?
[05:51] <adam7> !install
[05:51] <d4rkmonkey> Mora, thanks, do you know of any way I could get it working?
[05:51] <Yondering> hola.  Anyone know, has there been any word on fixing the problem between the server kernel and the Nvidia X server?
[05:51] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and  important data,  don't just keep it in the Ext4, because  there have been issues, altough I think it's all pretty much fixed now.   Ext4 does disk checking faaster than Ext3 and deals with bigger files better and things
[05:51] <ravn> hey ppl, anyone know if I can control the transmit power in my bluetooth antenna on the laptop? It is on too low power so I loose the connection in my headset all the time.
[05:51] <hotdog> digitalchemist: why not use the usb creator that comes with the ubuntu cd?
[05:52] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  wrektjet
[05:52] <uncmar> yowshi: could it be [ENTER] or [Enter] ?
[05:52] <yowshi> this is really pissing me off. i can get everything but the enter key to work
[05:52] <yowshi> didnt think of using that
[05:52] <agoezzz> ara
[05:52] <digitalchemist> hotdog: it gives the same problem ... I've tried about 3 of the bootable USB creation methods
[05:52] <manpoole> when running gtkpod i have a error xmms command not found
[05:52] <agoezzz> #jepara
[05:53] <Yondering> or, does anybody know a way around the incompatibility? :)
[05:53] <uncmar> yowshi: I've done sendkey stuff with Visual Basic in the past.
[05:53] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: when you do a real partitioend install,   it should pick up XP  in the menu.lst  as well as  Ubuntu of course. and Ubuntu will be the default boot after 3 seconds, but you can change that in the file
[05:54] <Guest10100> check
[05:54] <yowshi> uncmar: apparently not the bracket KeyStrPress seems to see it as a string to enter then i guess
[05:54] <uncmar> yowshi: I'm looking over the xmacro stuff now.
[05:54] <wrektjet> that will be good :) i will do it tom i am just gonna mess around on trhis install for a bit now that io know im deleting it
[05:54] <wrektjet> i can try to install compiz
[05:54] <wrektjet> which crashed my 8.04 a month or so ago
[05:55] <manpoole> anyone had problems with gtkpod and 9.04?
[05:55] <The^Dude> how can i stop xchat from logging into this server and channel every time it runs ?
[05:55] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and  if  you got data you want to keep in XP, well good idea to have it backed up somewhere else, because when you resize the XP partition something could happen,   never happeneded to me though.  never had dataloss like that when resizing partitions
[05:55] <wrektjet> nothing important. just vids and whatnot. things i could always get again
[05:56] <yowshi> uncmar: there isnt a whole lot of documentation on it
[05:56] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: guided installs give you Ext3,   to do  Ext4 you need to set up yourself, you know how to do that?
[05:56] <yowshi> uncmar: i had to figure half of this stuff out that i am doing now by trial and error
[05:56] <codelearner> can someone paste your xorg.conf file?
[05:57] <wrektjet> sebsebseb, i tghink i can do it
[05:57] <wrektjet> thnx
[05:57] <hart1gan> anyone know how can i view the files from a .tar.gz file? only the list of the files (i need for use in a script, for list). i tryed: tar tzvf file.tar.gz but i view more data
[05:57] <wrektjet> :)
[05:57] <bacon1989> ext4 also requires that you upgrade grub to the latest version included with the jaunty
[05:57] <M4d3L> hi, I have some problem with my flash player in firefox after upgrade to 9.04
[05:57] <scunizi> codelearner: http://pastebin.com/f5655089c
[05:57] <bacon1989> or else it won't be found
[05:57] <BIGSEX> someone please PM me if they'd be willing to help me work out a couple problems with a ubuntu/XP dual boot
[05:58] <scunizi> codelearner: that's from a Hardy system
[05:58] <oz1mar> hart1gan: text editor but i'm not sure...
[05:58] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: right, but?  how  is that going to be done?
[05:58] <bacon1989> M4d3l: go into synaptic, locate the flash repo and reinstall it
[05:58] <codelearner> ok ... thanks @ scuinizi
[05:58] <lstarnes> hart1gan: try tar lzf file.tar.gz
[05:58] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: install, re boot, and boot up the Ext4?
[05:58] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: you meant the Grub that is on the 9.04 CD is good or not?
[05:58] <M4d3L> bacon1989: I did it. but no change
[05:58] <andrewfree> Does ubuntu assign a password of mysql by defualt? Because mysql does not but yet its asking for a password
[05:59] <hart1gan> lstarnes, do not exist 'lzf'
[05:59] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: you need to install using ext4, then you boot itno the liveCD and install grub from there
[05:59] <Masse> If a file name has spaces in it, how to do you use the terminal to access it?
[05:59] <toasted_cheese> Has anyone had trouble upgrading to 9.04
[05:59] <oz1mar> 7zip?
[05:59] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: see above
[05:59] <hart1gan> .tar.gz
[05:59] <lstarnes> Masse: "file" with the qoutes
[05:59] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: regarding Grub and Ext4
[05:59] <bacon1989> i've had trouble with flash player
[05:59] <bacon1989> I just reinstalled it
[06:00] <bacon1989> and all was well
[06:00] <Masse> lstarnes: Thank you, I will give it a try
[06:00] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: ok  well this is useful to know, because I haven't   clean installed this  jaunty testing stuff
[06:00] <fung> hey guys after upgrading to 9.04, my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base completely disappeared. what should I do?
[06:00] <maxxist> toatsed_cheese flawless upgrade except for borked compiz settings.
[06:00] <toasted_cheese> saw a bit on flash player with RobbieF on cat5tv
[06:00] <bacon1989> it's just what I read, it says it isn't recongnized by older versions of grub
[06:00] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: remind me how I would  mount the partition on live cd,  or maybe even recovery mode?  and then  install latest Grub?
[06:00] <wrektjet> yep yep
[06:00] <wrektjet> i will do so sir
[06:00] <wrektjet> tyvm
[06:00] <wrektjet> gonna go for a bike ride
[06:01] <wrektjet> until next time... thanks again!
[06:01] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: I am clean installng soon with 9.04 final and doing Ext4 :)
[06:01] <lstarnes> hart1gan: try tzf instead of lzf
[06:01] <toasted_cheese> I can't upgrade to 9.04 it "fails to fetch packages"
[06:01] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: http://ribbed.us/software/restoring-grub-after-a-windows-install/
[06:01] <wolter> toasted_cheese, choose another servwer
[06:01] <sebsebseb> toasted_cheese: I can't upgrade  the other computer from 8.04 to 8.10  either, same reason
[06:01] <Masse> lstarnes: Thanks alot, that work, any other additional work arounds for that same issue that I should be aware of ?
[06:01] <hart1gan> lstarnes nice man, tzf works... thanks.
[06:01] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: you follow the code
[06:02] <wolter> toasted_cheese, choose the 'choose the best server' option
[06:02] <lstarnes> wolter: you could also put a \ before the space
[06:02] <M4d3L> any other idea?
[06:02] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: ah ha, but  the link is for after a windows install
[06:02] <toasted_cheese> okay I'll have another go at it
[06:02] <wolter> lstarnes, what?
[06:02] <BIGSEX> someone please PM me if they'd be willing to help me work out a couple problems with a ubuntu/XP dual boot
[06:02] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: actually there might be an easier way
[06:02] <lstarnes> wolter: oops
[06:02] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: you can use the same code to reinstall the latest grub version
[06:02] <lstarnes> Masse: you could also put a \ before the space
[06:03] <hdevalence> how do I find out why my sound is not working?
[06:03] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: what kind of stupidity is this?  why does  9.04 not provide a Grub that does Ext4 on the CD?
[06:03] <bacon1989> sebsebseb: it does, but it doesn't install it by default from what I recall
[06:03] <scunizi> bacon1989: but is it in the options as a choice on install?
[06:04] <bacon1989> I haven't actually tried it, but I think it relates to if you choose to upgrade from an earlier distro
[06:04] <uncmar> Looks like it is suppose to be KeyStrPress Return KeyStrRelease Return
[06:04] <uncmar> yowshi: Looks like it is suppose to be KeyStrPress Return KeyStrRelease Return
[06:04] <bacon1989> otherwise it'll just use the grub included on the disk
[06:04] <GuyFromHell> is there a list of packages somewhere that are installed by default on new installs? specifically python-notify
[06:04] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: ok well clean installing not upgrading, so i'll see what happens when I do that
[06:04] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: well I would hope the grub included on the disk does Ext4
[06:04] <hdevalence> nvm, I'm a foole
[06:04] <bacon1989> hmm.. you shouldn't have any problems with that
[06:04] <yowshi> uncmar: yeah well i was just trying to get it to recognize Return in the first place
[06:05] <bacon1989> good luck with that, i hear ext4 is still sortof in development
[06:05] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: yeah same
[06:05] <sebsebseb> bacon1989: ,but a lot of people say they don't have problems with it also
[06:05] <scunizi> sebsebseb: bacon1989 what does grub have to do with the filesystem?
[06:05] <uncmar> yowshi: http://www.krisalan.com/?p=55
[06:05] <sebsebseb> scunizi: apparantly older versions of Grub won't detect  Ext4, according  to that guy
[06:06] <yowshi> uncmar: yeah i saw that. it is one of only 2 ducomentation online for xmacro
[06:07] <scunizi> sebsebseb: ok.. not sure I really understand why it wouldn't.. one more thing to research before installing the 64 bit version
[06:07] <toasted_cheese>  I failed to upgrade again
[06:07] <sebsebseb> scunizi: ok
[06:08] <com_h> Can anyone tell me how to roll my nvidia drivers back to vers 173 from 180 , it doesn't seem to be in synaptic. it goes to d/l them but it just sits there, does download anything.??
[06:10] <scunizi> x
[06:10] <scunizi>
[06:10] <bacon1989> com_h: system>Administration>hardware drivers
[06:10] <ragedracer> Could use some help guys..  Upgraded to Jaunty.  Flash not working, and video are playing very poorly.  ideas?
[06:11] <Chr|s> ragedracer: 64bit?
[06:11] <MHz128> install Ubuntu Restricted Extras
[06:11] <ragedracer> 32
[06:11] <codelearner> how do i restart the x server?
[06:11] <com_h> Hey bacon1989, tried that, and is the same, as if they are both looking for an address which isn't there anymore
[06:11] <Chr|s> flash should already be preinstalled
[06:11] <Cpudan80> codelearner: ctrl+alt+bkspc
[06:11] <scunizi> codelearner: ctrl+alt+backspace twice in a row
[06:11] <Chr|s> !flash32 | ragedracer
[06:12] <Chr|s> !flash | ragedracer
[06:12] <Cpudan80> scunizi: once is fine (unless they changed it for 9.04)
[06:12] <ragedracer> ubottu:  followed that.  no joy
[06:12] <va11> how to give folder input to a c program in gcc of ubuntu 8.04?
[06:12] <scunizi> Cpudan80: that's what I've been reading
[06:12] <Cpudan80> scunizi: that it was changed?
[06:12] <scunizi> yes
[06:12] <Cpudan80> hmm
[06:12] <Cpudan80> I'll have to check that out when I install - thanks for the tip off
[06:13] <codelearner> gimme some command the key combination is not working
[06:13] <supernero> hey guys, just upgraded to 9.04 and suddenly my ethernet adapter is missing. i do an "ifconfig" and it only shows the loopback. everything was fine pre-upgrade. any ideas?
[06:13] <centHOGG> modprobe
[06:13] <doleyb> !dontzap|codelearner
[06:14] <Cpudan80> why was ctrl+alt+bkspc disabled?
[06:14] <wolf_> anyone installed mthbuntu 9.04 and suddenly the gnome panels dont hide when it is opened?
[06:14] <Cpudan80> that is dumb
[06:14] <campee> ctrl + alt + backspace is disabled? :/
[06:14] <scunizi> Cpudan80: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1062103.html
[06:14] <hotdog> omg it is...
[06:14] <hotdog> that was a useful hotkey...
[06:14] <Schokos> hello
[06:14] <RedSocrates> It's disabled, but that's because the xorg devs disabled it
[06:14] <yowshi> uncmar: thanks that actually seems to worjk
[06:15] <RedSocrates> You can re-enable it
[06:15] <ragedracer> what about youtube videos?  They aren't running either.  very choppy.  sound is fine, but vid itself is bad.
[06:15] <MTecknology> kimi: what did you watch?
[06:15] <uncmar> Cool.
[06:15] <hotdog> RedSocrates: How do you re-enable it?
[06:15] <uncmar> yowshi: Good.
[06:15] <RedSocrates> Section "ServerFlags"	Option "DontZap" "Off" EndSection
[06:15] <Schokos> does anyone have some problèms with the cd/dvd driver? :/
[06:15] <RedSocrates> Eh, those should be three separate lines
[06:15] <Cpudan80> scunizi: sounds like morons complain cause they hit it by mistake
[06:15] <supernero> hey guys, just upgraded to 9.04 and suddenly my ethernet adapter is missing. i do an "ifconfig" and it only shows the loopback. everything was fine pre-upgrade. any ideas?
[06:16] <Cpudan80> Cant play and not pay ;-)
[06:16] <RedSocrates> Put that in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:16] <Schokos> after the upgrade
[06:16] <va11> anyone please help me to remove this error in gcc http://paste.ubuntu.com/158329/
[06:16] <Cpudan80> va11: that's a programming problem, not an ubuntu problem
[06:16] <scunizi> Cpudan80: yea.. I can't imagine ACCIDENTLY hitting that key combo
[06:16] <h1n1> va11, why are you compiling with sudo?
[06:16] <Cpudan80> You didn't declare the array correctly va11
[06:17] <Rohan_SM> Hello for a very strange reason about 20-30 pixels space above taskbar just stays visible no maximizing possible any further than that have anyone idea ?
[06:17] <va11> Cpudan80:where can i ask program related problem can you suggest me a community name
[06:17] <uncmar> va11: obvious error in the code that wasn't supplied.
[06:17] <Cpudan80> ##c for C programming problems
[06:17] <TopBunny98> Ok  thats taken care off\
[06:17] <h1n1> va11, you might be able to get ##c interested.
[06:17] <va11> hln1:yes i did sudo
[06:17] <Cpudan80> They are hardasses over there
[06:17] <Cpudan80> Better put your hard hat on
[06:17] <h1n1> They will mock the poorly formed question, I'm sure.
[06:18] <Cpudan80> and anything they deem to be poor programming
[06:18] <va11> uncmar:how can we insert a line in a program
[06:18] <matholum> hello again everyone...
[06:18] <Cpudan80> va11: you'd have to know how the code is structured to answer that question
[06:18] <matholum> i am in serious need of some help.... still....
[06:18] <va11> uncmar:any command like ls or cd is required to change the code
[06:18]  * Cpudan80 is a C/C++/Java/PHP/Python/... programmer
[06:19] <Cpudan80> va11: you use your favorite text editor, .c files are straight text files that can be edited
[06:19] <va11> uncmar: like :wq for saving a file .For inserting a line and saving it any command is there?
[06:19] <Schokos> how can you still be up at this late hour? oO
[06:19] <Rohan_SM> sorry solved after changing resolution
[06:19] <hanophix33> Jaunty Jackalope...how
[06:19] <hanophix33> how did it turn out
[06:19] <rski> Schokos: people from all over the world(read timezones:)
[06:19] <Rohan_SM> thanks anyways
[06:20] <uncmar> va11: join ##programming
[06:20] <Schokos> yeah i know rski
[06:20] <hotdog> what is the gnome text editor called?
[06:20] <rski> hotdog: gedit
[06:20] <va11> uncmar:thank you
[06:20] <matholum> what causes an "unable to mount root fs on unknown block (x,y)" error on a live disk... including ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, and a gparted boot disk... ?
[06:20] <hotdog> rski: thx
[06:20] <TopBunny98> Ok  thats taken care of, i just sent  all of the important collaborators  asking them to only send me office documents  that have the  doc xls and ppt file extensions instead  of  the pptx,docx and pptx exrensions
[06:20] <Schokos> i'm just surprised, and very tired, i tried to win a lost battle against my computer :p
[06:20] <rski> metaltux: sounds like a corrupt cdrom
[06:20] <digitalchemist> hotdog: gedit ?
[06:20] <rski> er.. matholum
[06:20] <hanophix33> Trying to dual boot Ubuntu and XP...will this cause any problems?
[06:20] <rski> matholum: have you md5sum cheked?
[06:21] <usser> hanophix33, shouldnt
[06:21] <rski> hanophix33: depends on how you do it.
[06:21] <geek_> TopBunny98: i thought OOo handled MS OOXML?
[06:21] <hanophix33> rski:  best way?
[06:21] <rski> hanophix33: installing ubuntu after XP.
[06:21] <Schokos> yep
[06:21] <matholum> rski: i did a flash drive boot too though for 9.04... and the verify option in the boot menu on all the disks i checked were fine
[06:21] <TopBunny98> geek_: not well enough
[06:21] <hotdog> i forgot the command to configure my xorg.conf file...
[06:21] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: which OS was installed first?
[06:21] <geek_> ahh k
[06:21] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: are they on the same harddrive?
[06:22] <hanophix33> XP will be
[06:22] <hanophix33> yes
[06:22] <usser> TopBunny98, docx is not even ooxml its like a half-assed implementation with some xml involvement its not even a standard
[06:22] <usser> TopBunny98, sorry wasnt to you
[06:22] <usser> geek_, , docx is not even ooxml its like a half-assed implementation with some xml involvement its not even a standard
[06:22] <supernero> hey guys, just upgraded to 9.04 and suddenly my ethernet adapter is missing. i do an "ifconfig" and it only shows the loopback. everything was fine pre-upgrade. any ideas?
[06:22] <hotdog> it was dpkg-reconfigure or something
[06:22] <geek_> usser: ooxml is ms's xml format. Which isn't open ;p
[06:22] <MTecknology> usser: not even close to a standard :P
[06:22] <RedSocrates> supernero: does ifconfig -a show it?
[06:22] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: you should be fine if XP is installed first... I think ( but am not sure ) that Ubuntu may even auto configure grub for you so that you can hit ESC and pick which OS to boot into on startup
[06:23] <usser> geek_, yea but docx is not ooxml
[06:23] <rohan> with ubuntu 9.04, the "System" menu doesn't show the logout option anymore. what do i do to get it back?
[06:23] <hanophix33> Is everyone satisfied with Jaunty?
[06:23] <MTecknology> geek_: it's not open - and MS Office 2007 doesn't even use the format as it's written
[06:23] <usser> geek_, as far as i know
[06:23] <Schokos> no
[06:23] <supernero> Yeah actually
[06:23] <Schokos> i'm not
[06:23] <hanophix33> Thanks Nibsa1242b
[06:23] <tux91> How can I install 9.04 from a usb drive?
[06:23] <supernero> but i can't even get to the router config
[06:23] <Schokos> can't mount my cdrom :(
[06:23] <MTecknology> hanophix33: yup
[06:23] <Yondering> hanophix33, I am.  Mostly. ;)
[06:23] <tootskyo> yow!
[06:23] <geek_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML <- Docx is, in theory
[06:23] <hanophix33> Is wireless strength still a problem?
[06:23] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: if it doesn't configure it properly, you should still boot up into Ubuntu just fine, and then you can come here or google how to custom configure it
[06:24] <tootskyo> help!
[06:24] <matholum> tux91: http://www.teamteabag.com/2008/05/17/howto-easy-install-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-or-most-other-distros-from-usb/
[06:24] <[_FireSoul_]> tootskyo, ?
[06:24] <RedSocrates> supernero: Does anything happen when you type "ifconfig <interface> up"?
[06:24] <tootskyo> I don't have windows border in my xcfe
[06:24] <tootskyo> xfce
[06:24] <Yondering> hanophix33, I don't know unfortunately.   tootskyo, just ask yoru question.
[06:24] <tootskyo> :]
[06:24] <suport1024> ola pablo
[06:24] <[_FireSoul_]> RedSocrates, the interface is up and working
[06:24] <usser> geek_, well actually yea i take it back, docx is ooxml, thats weird docx was there before ms even submitted their standard to ISO
[06:24] <microlith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick <- I use the isotostick.sh script
[06:24] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: XP won't be able to see your Ubuntu files as it doesn't recognize EXT3 partitions
[06:24] <suport1024> ola
[06:24] <rohan> tux91: read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:24] <supernero> RedSocrates: Nothing really happens.. no output, but no errors either, and the problem seems to remain
[06:25] <suport1024> ola
[06:25] <hanophix33> nibsa1242b: thanks
[06:25] <Yondering> Has anybody had any success using the Nvidia binaries with a 32-bit server kernel?
[06:25] <tootskyo> ??
[06:25] <supernero> i should mention this is a wired config that worked out of the box until i upgraded
[06:25] <nibsa1242b> hanophix33: there is an EXT2 driver for windows that will allow you to read / write to EXT3 partitions as long as the EXT3 partition was shutdown cleanly
[06:25] <RedSocrates> supernero: What adapter is it?
[06:25] <supernero> and after my reboot after the upgrade it worked fine for the first 10 minutes or so
[06:25] <supernero> eth0
[06:25] <tux91> matholum: thanks a lot
[06:25] <tootskyo> is there already an ext4?
[06:26] <tux91> rohan: thanks
[06:26] <_ester_> hello, how install OpenOffice3 on ubuntustudio?
[06:26] <Yondering> tootskyo, there is.
[06:26] <nibsa1242b> tootskyo: yes, it exists. it is not in wide usage yet
[06:26] <RedSocrates> supernero: Adapter brand, I mean, not interface
[06:26] <mib_a2lz9z2b> anyone found the solution to full screen video lag?
[06:26] <matholum> tux: np, i still had the window open since I just did it ^_^
[06:26] <mib_a2lz9z2b> anyone found the solution to full screen video lag?
[06:26] <Schokos> what the...?!
[06:26] <supernero> oh, hell. i don't know. it's an onboard thing on the motherboard. via chipset anyhow
[06:27] <mib_a2lz9z2b> anyone found the solution to full screen video lag?
[06:27] <nibsa1242b> anyone use Skype on Jaunty?
[06:27] <Schokos> nop
[06:27] <TopBunny98> !skype
[06:28] <Firefishe> _ester_:  You can use the packaged version or download directly from www.openoffice.org
[06:28] <TopBunny98> !skype | nibsa1242b
[06:28] <nibsa1242b> TopBunny98: thanks
[06:28] <Firefishe> _ester_:  If you use the oo.org binaries, it'll install it to /opt
[06:28] <h1n1> The flood bot is flooding.
[06:28] <Schokos> does anyone find something about the bug with the cd/dvd drver?
[06:28] <Schokos> +i
[06:28] <TopBunny98> fjfjkad
[06:29] <h1n1> FloodBot2, you have a bug.
[06:29] <Itu8> lol
[06:29] <_ester_> Firefishe, i have an error due install via std install app
[06:29] <maxxist> haha
[06:29] <TopBunny88> !skype | nibsa1242b
[06:29] <yaris1234567891> how do i disable wget from creating wget-log files ?
[06:29] <usser> whats up with floodbot?
[06:30] <maxxist> Floodbot must have that Swine Flu
[06:30] <celthunder> !ekiga
[06:30] <regjava> I tried ubuntu live cd and i could connect to my wireless networks, but once i installed it, the wireless network option itself is disabled, how can i fix this?
[06:30] <Firefishe> _ester_:  Then I'd make sure *all* the ubuntu packages are uninstalled, and just download the entire suite from www.openoffice.org
[06:30] <ryanprior> The flood bot does not have a bug. Its purpose is to flood the channel.
[06:30] <usser> haha
[06:30] <Firefishe> _ester_:  Typicall, something like:  sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice; or something to that effect
[06:30] <yowshi> uncmar: now if only i could get it to repeat the same file over and over again i wouldnt need a file that was like 5k lines long
[06:30] <maxxist> lmao
[06:31] <usser> when it gets too queit
[06:31] <Firefishe> _ester_:  Typically, rather.
[06:31] <uncmar> yowshi: it?
[06:31] <uncmar> yowshi: why not put it in a loop?
[06:31] <mishaFar> /<IP_ADDRESS>/Obraz
[06:31] <yowshi> uncmar: xmacro
[06:31] <_ester_> Firefishe, ok. thnx.
[06:31] <maxxist> anyone have any good suggestions for a good point of sale and inventory system that is open source?
[06:32] <ryanprior> FloodBot2: Moar flooding plz.
[06:32] <matholum> any ideas on "unable to mount root fs on unknown block" on just about every live disk? I even got it when i tried 9.04 through a usb HD.... it is on a dell dimension 6400i with a 2.6GHz P4
[06:32] <nibsa1242b> regjava: check System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[06:32] <whatvn> hi all!
 I could conect with he live cd, but after installation i cannot
[06:32] <usser> hi
[06:32] <Firefishe> _ester_:  You're welcome :-)  Please take some time to read all the instructions on www.openoffice.org's site.  What's nice about using the site's binaries, is you can update directly from within the program, itself, and not have to wait for updates via the usualy package update process.  I'm actually using both on my install, and the seem to get along  well,.
[06:33] <centHOGG> maxxist: have you ever checked out those cms websites that you run with apache?
[06:33] <skierpage> Heya, I'm in the Kubuntu amd64 installer trying to figure out manual "Prepare Partitions" (with Konqueror running, impressive!).  Where's the online help for this complicated step?
[06:33] <centHOGG> webbrowser
[06:33] <Firefishe> _ester_:  usualy=usual
[06:33] <Skapare> OK, I figured out how to avoid those annoying, loud, repeating beeps when you shutdown or restart the system (which is Gnome specific, KDE does not have this issue) ... instead of shutdown/restart from a logged in user, just logout first, then do the shutdown/restart ... no beeps in this case
[06:33] <maxxist> centHOGG no but i will have to now.  thank you
[06:33] <uncmar> yowshi: bash has a for loop command, as does many shell script languages.  You can't call xmacro repeatedly?
[06:33] <supernero> hey guys, just upgraded to 9.04 and suddenly my ethernet adapter is missing. i do an "ifconfig" and it only shows the loopback. everything was fine pre-upgrade. any ideas?
[06:33] <centHOGG> maxxist: yes there is a demo site for opencms ... google that keyword
[06:34] <Firefishe> skierpage:  partitioning isn't really complicated.  Are you at the partition manager now?
[06:34] <maxxist> centHOGG awesome.  thank you.
[06:34] <centHOGG> np
[06:34] <skierpage> The AMD64 install guide seems to describe something different than "Step 4 of 6 Prepare Partitions", maybe it's the advanced setup.
[06:34] <_ester_> Firefishe, hmmm )
[06:34] <nibsa1242b> regjava: check System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[06:34] <yowshi> uncmar: i could if i knew how
[06:34] <Firefishe> skierpage:  partition setup is partition setup.  Are you at the stage where you are to prepare partitions?
 I can do that, but what nxt, currently i am on windows since i cant connect to the internet from ubuntu
[06:35] <uncmar> yowshi: man bash
[06:35] <skierpage> Firefishe, yup, I'm trying to figure out how to break up my spare partition into root-home-swap.
[06:35] <rohan> with ubuntu 9.04, the "System" menu doesn't show the logout option anymore. what do i do to get it back?
[06:35] <yowshi> uncmar: the line is cat file | xmacro -d 10 :0
[06:35] <uncmar> yowshi: do a search for for.  That will help a lot.
[06:35] <pronoy_> rohan: right click and edit menu
[06:35] <skierpage> Firefishe, BTW thanks for helping out!  I'm happy to read web docs, but can't find something relevant.
[06:35] <Firefishe> skierpage:  By spare partition, do you mean free space on the same drive as windows?  Or is the extra partition left over from another linux install, or what?
[06:35] <whatvn> I have a problem: I installed awn on Ubuntu 9.04, but when I run it from terminal or through Accessories, it could not start. the error is: sreen is not composited, you must run compiz(-fusion)...? I install compiz too, but get same error? Some one please help?
[06:36] <nibsa1242b> regjava: can you connect your machine over a wired network? or use a different computer? its difficult to help if you don't have access to the machine with the problem
[06:36] <Firefishe> skierpage:  np...
[06:36] <[_FireSoul_]> whatvn, type in the consol
[06:36] <Firefishe> skierpage:  /query me....
[06:36] <[_FireSoul_]> compiz
[06:36] <regjava> sure thing I can go to my desktop
[06:36] <yowshi> uncmar: how do i search in man mode?
[06:36] <regjava> logging out
[06:36] <nibsa1242b> regjava: ideally, you'd want to know what driver the live cd is using, that way we can make sure the install has the driver and will use it
[06:36] <skierpage> Firefishe, from windows I set up a spare 27GB D: partition that I can blow away.
[06:36] <[_FireSoul_]> whatvn, try compiz &
[06:36] <matholum> when i say noquiet nosplash in the boot args, it tells me something setting root in the boot args and acts like it wants to list the partitions... but there are none listed... this computer has sata HD slots, but it has a ide hd instead... don't know if that is important... but to me it acts like, even though it is a live disk, it wants to set root on the HD... but it can't find them... this the empty list
[06:36] <Firefishe> skierpage:  So that partition is ntfs?
[06:37] <[_FireSoul_]> whatvn, it must get compiz working even after you close your console
[06:37] <mishaFar> justcomday
[06:37] <h8red> werd
[06:37] <regjava> Thanks <nibsa1242b>
[06:37] <Schokos> hmm
[06:37] <matholum> **thus the empty list
[06:37] <skierpage> Firefishe, what do you mean /query me....?  Firefishe, yes it is NTFS.  I see how to change it to something else like ext3 but AIUI the recommendation is to have root-home-swap.
[06:38] <uncmar> yowshi: /text
[06:38] <yowshi> uncmar: and do i put my bash script in a seperate file and if so how do i then run that file
[06:38] <uncmar> yowshi: you type the / key and then the text to findl.
[06:38] <supernero> I solved my problem, so if anyone comes in here and can't connect, tell them to sudo dhclient. apparantly dhclient was not stating up.
[06:38] <Firefishe> AIUI?  no abbreviations please, I can't remember every one of them. ;)
[06:39] <uncmar> yowshi: you start a bash file with #!/bin/bash   and can use the .sh extension so that the gui automatically recongizes it as a script.  Also you simply execute a chmod +x bash_program
[06:40] <Schokos> you really can't help me with this hm? :/
[06:40] <kelli> hi there i'm using pidgin and every contact opens in a seprat page
[06:40] <Firefishe> skierpage:  If you want to use the 27GB NTFS Partition, select the partition by double-clicking it--or maybe a single-click will do, don't do too many clicks, too fast.
[06:40] <yowshi> uncmar: so basically in another text files i put in #!/bin/bash
[06:40] <pronoy_> kelli: so what is the problem?
[06:40] <yowshi> uncmar: list of commands and then run it from a terminal right?
[06:40] <Firefishe> skierpage:  either that, or highlight it, then select delete
[06:40] <kelli> any one here use pidgin
[06:40] <uncmar> yowshi: right.
[06:40] <Firefishe> skierpage:  Let the partition manager do it's thing, and when it's done, reselect it (it should show empty now.
[06:41] <yowshi> uncmar: sool
[06:41] <pronoy_> kelli: yes....i asked you what is the problem ?
[06:41] <yowshi> uncmar: and the file has to have a .sh extension?
[06:41] <uncmar> it doesn't have to.  that is optional.
[06:41] <yowshi> groovy
 I run compiz &, after run awn
[06:42] <whatvn> nothing happen
[06:42] <matholum> i have used 4 different sticks of ram... and 2 different HDs.... i know for sure the one I am currently using is fine... and the RAM in it should be fine...
[06:42] <kelli> ok how do i get the windows to open with a new tab not separte window
[06:43] <pronoy_> kelli: when you are chatting with a contact.....if another one appears it'll automatically switch in a new tab
[06:43] <Carrie_> heyyy
[06:43] <yowshi> uncmar: would a for x = 1 do;
[06:43] <yowshi> command
[06:43] <yowshi> done work?
[06:43] <Carrie_> Are there any pre-installed IM clients other than pidgin?
[06:43] <kelli> for me its opening in a new box
[06:43] <Carrie_> or, any packages readily available?
[06:43] <Carrie_> for AIM specifically
[06:43] <Code_Bleu> how can i add unallocated space to an existing / parition using LVM2?
[06:43] <pronoy_> kelli: hang on ...lemme check my settings
[06:43] <kelli> not just a new tab
[06:44] <JohnDoe> Is there a safe way to unmount a USB flash drive?  I would prefer not to use the CLI command "umount" every time.
 here is out error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158340/
[06:44] <uncmar> yowshi: if that is what it is says.  been a little while since I used the for command.
[06:44] <JohnDoe> possibly a simple gui way like in Windows
[06:44] <calc> JohnDoe: right click on it and unmount on the desktop
[06:44] <calc> JohnDoe: does the same as unmount via the command line
[06:45] <uncmar> yowshi: but I would think the ; goes before the do.  From my previous experience with bash.
[06:45] <rwer> help how to setup webmin NAT
[06:45] <JohnDoe> Thanks calc!
[06:45] <rwer> !ping Labutaw
[06:45] <JohnDoe> maybe i was right clicking on the wrong icon for my USB drive
[06:45] <barqers> Guys, does anyone know why cube atlantis deselects itself after i try and enable it?
[06:45] <yowshi> uncmar: the man isnt really all that helpful to me i cant grap it entirely. this is usually the case with me and man pages
[06:45] <skierpage> Firefishe is teh awesome-o
[06:46] <calc> JohnDoe: just above properties it should say 'unmount volume'
[06:46] <JohnDoe> yeap...found it
[06:46] <JohnDoe> thanks
[06:46] <[_FireSoul_]> whatvn, there is a problem in starting your compiz i guess
[06:46] <rwer> help how to setup webmin NAT ?
[06:46] <JohnDoe> I was clicking on the USB drive...but the wrong ICON i guess
[06:46] <JohnDoe> thanks!
[06:46] <calc> JohnDoe: ok
[06:46] <meoblast001> hi
 is there anyway to fix?
[06:47] <meoblast001> how do i make a kernel deb that creates deb diffs and all that
[06:47] <Code_Bleu> how can i add unallocated space to an existing / parition using LVM2?
[06:47] <barqers> Can someone tell me why when I select cube atlantis, it deselects itself, also, when I set a skydome image, nothing shows up? only black and white strips?
[06:47] <calc> mogul218: you use the program debdiff to create a deb diff
[06:48] <Carrie_> Are there any pre-installed IM clients other than pidgin? or, any packages readily available?  for AIM specifically...
[06:48] <losher> yowshi: that's because man pages aren't really for teaching/learning, they're basically just to jog your memory. There are numerous books on bash programming...
[06:48] <johannix> anyone run into issues with flash on 9.04? everything's running very fast (videos and music).
[06:48] <m0u5e> Carrie_: try empathy its nice
[06:48] <calc> Carrie_: no, pidgin does them all
[06:48] <kelli> any one use pidgin?
[06:48] <uncmar> yowshi: have you tested yet?  you can always use a command like echo 1.
[06:48] <calc> Carrie_: you can install other ones if you want to use something else
[06:48] <m0u5e> kelli: i do
[06:48] <calc> kelli: i do
[06:48] <Carrie_> i use pidgin, but this guy i'm talking to doesn't like it and wants something else :P
[06:48] <m0u5e> kelli: pidgin can be tempermental at times... i'm testing empathy, and so far i like it
[06:48] <m0u5e> Carrie_: tell him to use empathy
[06:48] <matholum> where do live disks mount the filesystem? ram or hd?
[06:48] <Carrie_> but i dont really have any alternatives for him
[06:48] <pronoy_> kelli: did you install any new plugin recently ?
[06:48] <alanbshepard70> I installed apache2, php, and the apache php mod but when I try to load a .php page in  browser the file is offered up for download adn the php doesnt execute
[06:48] <m0u5e> Carrie_: its easy to use, a bit simpler than pidgin, and does the job
[06:48] <safruhani> hi, i use 8.10, i chmod x for a file, when i clicking it, a window open and ask me shall i run or display it, how can i remove this step?
[06:49] <Carrie_> mouse, cool I will check it out
[06:49] <kelli> no
[06:49] <regjava> I am unable to see anything in system-->hardware-->drivers
[06:49] <pronoy_> kelli: its been like this since the starting ?
[06:49] <losher> matholum: ram, the whole point is not to use any drives so you can partition them
[06:50] <m0u5e> Carrie_: np
[06:50] <calc> losher: actually live cd does use the swap partition on the drive if it exists (afaik)
[06:50] <matholum> losher, that is what i thought.... any idea on why it says my ram is an unknown block hten?
[06:50] <Carrie_> how about SIM-IM?
[06:50] <calc> losher: or at least it seemed to the last time i was looking
[06:50] <regjava> who was that helping me on configuring the wireless connection?
[06:50] <Carrie_> Sim-IM rather
[06:50] <Carrie_> you heard of that one?
[06:51] <losher> calc: if that were true, you wouldn't be able to delete/recreate/whatever the swap partition, since it would be in use, and all hell would break loose
[06:51] <kelli> just since i up graded to ubuntu9.04
[06:51] <calc> losher: hmm well if you start the installer it might swapoff, i'm not certain
[06:51] <m0u5e> Carrie_: oops accidentally quit
[06:51] <m0u5e> Carrie_: no i have not heard of sim
[06:51] <regjava> I was able to connect to wifi using live cd, but after an installation i cannot
[06:51] <Carrie_> hmm ok
[06:51] <calc> losher: i just recall seeing it using the swap partition on the livecd in the past, i wasn't sure how it dealt with repartitioning
[06:51] <pronoy_> kelli: oh...well i am still on intrepid....maybe reinstalling the application will help
[06:51] <Carrie_> i suppose i could just install the package and see how it is :)
[06:52] <losher> calc: can't have it both ways. If you swapoff, you aren't using the swap partition on the disk. QED
[06:52] <Carrie_> do that in windows, and even if you uninstall, your system is permanently tainted with shit from the installation
[06:52] <kelli> thyanks
[06:52] <regjava> The wired network/wireless network is disabled
[06:52] <calc> losher: well it can use it up until you try to repartition and then would have to turn it off before letting you get to that screen, but i'm not sure if that is how it works
[06:52] <yowshi> uncmar: i cant figure out the do syntax it keeps giving me an error "do" expected even though i start the line with do
[06:52] <losher> matholum: it's a bad sign. Faulty ram, or a hardware incompatibility is my guess
[06:52] <calc> i don't have a working vm at the moment or would try it out
[06:53] <calc> Carrie_: same with linux but not nearly as bad just your $HOME has dot files ;-)
[06:53] <matholum> losher: i know it has duel channel ram... and i know at least one stick it fine...
[06:53] <acfrazier> I'm having a problem, I'm trying to convert my ext3 filesystem to ext4, but I can never get the Live CD to boot, I verified the MD5, and I'm using a USB boot disk with the Live CD on it, so it can't be a bad burn. Whenever it boots, it just goes to the BusyBox prompt, and sits there. I had the same problem with 9.04 RC.
[06:53] <acfrazier> and beta, for that matter
[06:54] <losher> calc: If you can run without swap, why bother? And if you install onto a virgin system with no filesystems at all, there's nothing to swap to...
[06:54] <dtom2444> has anyone tried Jaunty on a Sony Vaio Laptop???
[06:54] <m0u5e> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 (if you have an intel d something architecture... theres a note about that)
[06:54] <m0u5e> acfrazier: oops ^ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[06:54] <calc> losher: i don't know why it was done i'm just saying what i have seen in the past when testing out the live cd
[06:54] <wall-e_> so has anyone else had major problems with jaunty?
[06:54] <acfrazier> It's an AMD Turion 64x2, so I don't think that's the problem.
[06:55] <uncmar> yowshi: I see.
[06:55] <m0u5e> wall-e_: what sort of problems are you having?
[06:55] <disappearedng> Hey everyone
[06:55] <m0u5e> wall-e_: i havent experienced any show stoppning bugs with the default set up no
[06:55] <yoasif> losher: no swap means no suspend and hibernate
[06:55] <losher> calc: I recall older boot environments that used swap space, but recent live cds don't, for the reasons I gave
[06:55] <matholum> losher, i am pretty sure the hardware is fine too... i am so confused
[06:55] <disappearedng> quick quesion about xterm: My vim color settings are messed up because of xterm (I think) how do I set it to something else?
[06:55] <uncmar> yowshi: it appears to use the C style of syntax.  Mostly.
[06:55] <wall-e_> when i upgraded it froze
[06:55] <RedSocrates> Anybody have any experience with OpenBox and Ubuntu?  For some reason my sound doesn't work under OB
[06:55] <acfrazier> I upgraded to 9.04 on the actual system and it boots, just not the LiveCD.
[06:55] <calc> losher: ah ok, well it might have been an older release, i can't remember when i last noticed it
[06:55] <m0u5e> acfrazier: have you run it in verbose mode? where does it drop into busy box?
[06:55] <yoasif> RedSocrates: yeah, im running openbox
[06:56] <losher> matholum: tell me about the hardware: cpu/mobo?
[06:56]  * calc has only been using linux for 14 years :)
[06:56] <RedSocrates> yoasif: Have any sound issues?
[06:56] <m0u5e> acfrazier: weird o_o;
[06:56] <wall-e_> then desktop effects wont work and divx wont play
[06:56] <uncmar> disappearedng: :set color elflord
[06:56] <acfrazier> m0u5e, how would I run it in verbose mode?
[06:56] <yowshi> uncmar: yay *sarcasm*
[06:56] <uncmar> disappearedng: or some other color.
[06:56] <yowshi> !bash
[06:56] <regjava> I am unable to connect to wireless network after an installation, I could connect with thcan i fix this?ow e live CD, h
[06:56] <losher> calc: noob...
[06:56]  * pronoy_ thinks he'll stick to intrepid
[06:56] <yoasif> RedSocrates: aside from the usual issues ;)
[06:56] <m0u5e> acfrazier: after the language screen when your selecting if you want to "try" or "install" hit f6
[06:56]  * calc notes his personal memory is getting faulty with his old age
[06:56] <Carrie_> i installed empathy to check it out.. seems pretty interesting... when i added my AIM account.. it kept bugging me about "access to the keyring" ... what the heck is that?
[06:56] <yoasif> RedSocrates: no, no issues heh
[06:56] <disappearedng> uncmar: I am using color schemes
[06:56] <m0u5e> deleting "quiet splash" works too
[06:56] <yoasif> Carrie_: gnome-keyring
[06:56] <disappearedng> uncmar I am sayiung that my colorschemes comeout differently... HWY?
[06:57] <calc> losher: yea i know my first kernel was 1.2.4 long after all the fun stuff ;-)
[06:57] <yoasif> Carrie_: it stores passwords for gnome
[06:57] <RedSocrates> yoasif: Hm.. I get no sound under OB, but I do under Gnome/Metacity.
[06:57] <wall-e_> i even did a new install and it still just ran glitchy
[06:57] <Carrie_> oh ok
[06:57] <losher> pronoy_: 8.04 is rock solid
[06:57] <m0u5e> wall-e_: hmm what sort of bugs?
[06:57] <uncmar> yowshi: for (( x=0 ; x > 5 ; x++ )); do command ; done
[06:57] <matholum> losher, cpu = intel p4, 2.6GHz mobo says on it "dell rev. A01"
[06:57] <uncmar> yowshi: I haven't tested that just yet.
[06:57] <barqers> can someone help me please?
[06:57] <yoasif> RedSocrates: have u tried running gnome-settings-daemon in your autostart.sh?
[06:57] <m0u5e> wall-e_: well during a upgrade can be a problem, but its usually solved with sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:57] <acfrazier> m0u5e, brb then, gonna try that
[06:57] <losher> matholum: and which lived cd?
[06:57] <uncmar> disappearedng: white background?
[06:57] <dtom2444> So would most advise to stick with Intrepid instead of Jaunty??
[06:57] <Schokos> is there any solution with the cd driver?
[06:57] <m0u5e> acfrazier: good luck :)
[06:57] <RedSocrates> yoasif: Nope, but I was suspecting it was something along those lines.  I'll give it a shot
[06:57] <alanbshepard70> why is php not available even after installing it and the apache mod?
[06:58] <m0u5e> dtom2444: i dunno, jaunty has a lot of nice features
[06:58]  * calc bbl
[06:58] <yoasif> dtom2444: try the live cd, if everything works, go ahead and upgrade
[06:58] <matholum> losher: lol... ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04 and gparted boot disk
[06:58] <iframe> sound not working with intel 8201I (ICH9 Family), any ideas how to fix it?...
[06:58] <disappearedng> uncmar: do you have any idea what I am talking about? like I am using dessert color scheme, my original t_Co is 88 and now i have switched to 256 with the help of libvte..
[06:58] <nepse> been trying to build the stkx11 webcam drivers, following this guide: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syntek - i get an error like this: http://pastebin.com/m347a802 - any ideas, anyone?
[06:58] <yowshi> uncmar: that gives a bad loop variable error
[06:58] <pronoy_> losher: yeah..... i mean i think all LTS have this issue of multiple bugs and then STS comes to save the day
[06:58] <m0u5e> i hope canonical will drop into a 1 year release cycle after linux desktop insertion reaches a certain point
[06:58] <johannix> anyone have any issues with flash in 9.04?
[06:58] <dtom2444> I wasn't too impressed with the Live CD
[06:58] <wall-e_> GUI not running right major problems with things just not running proper\
[06:58] <uncmar> yowshi: I fixed it... correction follows.
[06:58] <losher> m0u5e: which nice features?
[06:58] <pronoy_> losher: i think i'll upgrade to 9.10 :)
[06:58] <regjava> I an unable to connect to the wireless network after an installation of 9.04, I could connect with the live installation of the same, please help
[06:59] <m0u5e> losher: notify-osd is pretty nice
[06:59] <m0u5e> losher: fast boot is nice too
[06:59] <m0u5e> losher: ext4 is really nice as well :)
[06:59] <yoasif> losher: ram usage is down, faster boot, and newer apps of course
[06:59] <m0u5e> losher: ^_^
[06:59] <uncmar> yowshi: for (( x=0 ; 5 > x ; x++ )); do echo $x ; done
[06:59] <koshari> m0u5e your not required to update every 6 months, i go yearly
[06:59] <yoasif> losher: but if you have intel onboard video, or an ati video card, stay away
[06:59] <TheNano> regjava: what is you wifi card ?
[06:59] <losher> m0u5e: thx
[06:59] <barqers> guys i have a couple of questions if someone can help me with compiz
[06:59] <m0u5e> koshari: but i can't resist the new hardware and features :(
[06:59] <sprockets2000> does netbook remix run gnome in the background?
[06:59] <dtom2444> mOu5e: i heard ext4 is unstable, any truth to this?
[06:59] <uncmar> yowshi: echo $x and done can be on seperate lines.
[06:59] <regjava> TheNano, how do i find out
[06:59] <m0u5e> koshari: *software
[07:00] <m0u5e> koshari: lol wut
[07:00] <yoasif> barqers: my advice is to turn it off ;) more trouble than it's worth imo
[07:00] <koshari> m0u5e the point is its YOUR choice
[07:00] <m0u5e> koshari: yeah :D
[07:00] <wall-e_> @first upgrade froze so ithought it was a broken kernel upgrade or something then i upgraded with a fresh instal and was worse the before
[07:00] <uncmar> disappearedng: t_Co ??
[07:00] <pronoy_> people using pidgin : check out the facebook plugin its really cool
[07:00] <TheNano> regjava: you could do an lspci in terminal ,and tell me the modell of you pc
[07:00] <disappearedng> yeah
[07:00] <yoasif> !compiz | barqers
[07:00] <m0u5e> koshari: well, i'm just saying if its yearly, i think it'd give them time to do more and polish more
[07:00] <yowshi> uncmar: still telling me bad loop variable
[07:00] <regjava> it is Atheros AR928x
[07:00] <yoasif> pronoy_: what does it do?
[07:00] <cutsat> #ubuntu-vn
[07:00] <barqers> yoasif: Everything is working fine, except that when I select a skydome image, it comes up as black and white stripes? So I don't think it's renderring properly:S
[07:00] <||drake||> hey, i have dual monitors running, but i can't move the mouse between them, any ideas why?
[07:00] <m0u5e> koshari: once linux catches up with theo ther mainstream OS's i think there needs to be some innovation :D
[07:01] <yoasif> pronoy_: is it in the repos?
[07:01] <uncmar> yowshi: you use pasted that code exactly ?  cause that works for me
[07:01] <Schokos> regjava >> i found a way to resolve this
[07:01] <pronoy_> dtom2444: its got a few bugs here and there........it'll come through, you wanna experiment go for ext4 otherwise stick to 3
[07:01] <Schokos> you have to use the madwifi pilots
[07:01] <pronoy_> yoasif: nope...you'll need wget hang on
[07:01] <Schokos> drivers?
[07:01] <koshari> m0u5e its not the polish that i seek but the driver support being up to date, its inconveniant compiling new modules against older kernels
[07:01] <uncmar> yowshi: it counts from 0 to 4.  doesn't give 5.
[07:01] <regjava> Schokos, how can i do it
[07:01] <pronoy_> yoasif: wget http://pidgin-facebookchat.googlecode.com/files/pidgin-facebookchat-1.38.deb
[07:01] <pronoy_> yoasif: then dpkg it
[07:01] <yoasif> barqers: did you look to see if the problem has been reported elsewhere? (google it)
[07:01] <regjava> The drivers section says...no restricted drivers
[07:02] <Schokos> regjava >> I don't remember, it was in french, not in english
[07:02] <yowshi> uncmar:  for (( x=0 ; 5 > x ; x++ )); do echo $x ; done
[07:02] <disappearedng> uncmar: i disabled set_tCo=256 on my .vimrc... ok 1) I don't know why when I do a :colorscheme gentooish I am getting no color at all...
[07:02] <TheNano> regjava: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[07:02] <TheNano> regjava: and reboot
[07:02] <regjava> TheNano, No internet
[07:02] <The-Knox> is a patch cable the same as an ethernet cable or is the internal part dif?
[07:02] <barqers> yoasif: Yeah, I've been googling for hours, I've tried lots of random things. Not exactly sure what the issue is...
[07:02] <yowshi> uncmar:  yoshi@yoshi-ubuntu:~$ sh gcbotcall
[07:02] <yowshi> gcbotcall: 2: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable
[07:02] <losher> matholum: if all those versions give you problems, it's obviously not a simple version issue. Something weird about your hardware I'd guess. All I can suggest is that you id the mobo more fully and then google for known issues. So what *does* run on the damn thing?
[07:02] <m0u5e> TheNano: is that safe? D:
[07:02] <uncmar> yowshi: don't use sh, that is a bash command.
[07:02] <||drake||> how come my mouse cannot move between my two monitors?
[07:03] <dtom2444> has anyone found ext4 to actually be better than ext3?
[07:03] <yoasif> barqers: might want to just report the bug to compiz-source on launchpad then, and see what shakes out of that
[07:03] <uncmar> bash gcbotcall
[07:03] <m0u5e> dtom2444: immensely
[07:03] <Sikha> hey all
[07:03] <yowshi> uncmar: then use what instead?
[07:03] <TheNano> m0u5e: it was on my pc
[07:03] <uncmar> or simply
[07:03] <Schokos> i'm not the only one to have problems with the cd/dvd thing
[07:03] <m0u5e> dtom2444: its not as stable though
[07:03] <Schokos> be back soon
[07:03] <uncmar> yowshi: or use ./gcbotcall
[07:03] <Sikha> need some help with enabling composting..
[07:03] <m0u5e> TheNano: does that include gpu drivers?
[07:03] <TheNano> m0u5e: it is possiable to go to madwifi as well
[07:03] <goodnet5> hi
[07:03] <yowshi> ok
[07:03] <matholum> losher.... it did have windows before windows died,,,,
[07:03] <Sikha> was working with beta, now not working with release...
[07:03] <ash211> yowshi: for i in `seq 1 10`; do echo $i; done
[07:03] <yoasif> pronoy_: is it a plugin or a new type of account?
[07:04] <Sikha> anyone able to help?
[07:04] <yoasif> pronoy_: i just installed it
[07:04] <barqers> yoasif: thanks m8!
[07:04] <uncmar> yowshi: ash211 is telling you how to do it with sh instead of bash.  that will work as well.
[07:04] <goodnet5> hi sikha
[07:04] <losher> dtom2444: "its not as stable though" <--- these are bad words if your system is at all mission-critical
[07:04] <matholum> losher... i will try and get a better look at the mobo... brb
[07:04] <TheNano> m0u5e: don't know really, it have latest kernel drivers and as you see it is a bckport , not tested really , but my ath card works just fine with them , no blacklistn or hazzel
[07:04] <Labutaw> help how to setup webmin NAT ?
[07:04] <pronoy_> yoasif: its a plugin....you'll need to have an account on facebook to access it and restart pidgin to access it
[07:05] <yowshi> uncmar: ok i have to use bash ./gcbotcall doesnt work
[07:05] <regjava> TheNano: I got error could find epackag
[07:05] <Sikha> hey goodnet5
[07:05] <m0u5e> losher: which means its good on anything which is not mission critical, like my personal computer :D
[07:05] <uncmar> disappearedng: I don't KNOW.   but some colorschemes may not be there anymore.  You might want to check for gentooish.
[07:05] <acfrazier> m0u5e, just tried it, it loops mounting the hard drive, then drops into a busybox prompt
[07:05] <regjava> But I had this working in the live cd
[07:05] <yoasif> pronoy_: it just made pidgin crash ;)
[07:05] <Sikha> goodnet5: can u help me with enabling composting?
[07:05] <goodnet5> hi yoasif
[07:05] <yoasif> goodnet5: hu
[07:05] <yoasif> goodnet5: hi
[07:05] <pronoy_> yoasif : what ?? its working here
[07:05]  * pronoy_ will be right back
[07:06] <yoasif> pronoy_: where do i report bugs to?
[07:06] <losher> m0u5e: agreed, but the point bears emphasizing to the less sophisticated users
[07:06] <uncmar> disappearedng: and I don't knokw what set_tCo=256 means.  I assume that is number of colors.  256 instead of 16?
[07:06] <disappearedng> uncmar: obviously I have downloaded my gentooish.vim into my ~/.vim/colors
[07:06] <TheNano> regjava: use you live cd and go to system admin. sources and add the cd there and then same command
[07:06] <Carrie_> so if i hold ALT in a window and click , i can move the window.... any helpful keys to resize? :P
[07:06] <iframe> sound not working with intel 8201I (ICH9 Family), any ideas how to fix it?...
[07:07] <TheNano> Carrie_: no, some windows are fixed i guess
[07:07] <ripps> Carrie_: Alt+Middle Click resizes
[07:07] <The-Knox> is a patch cable the same as cat6 cable or is the internal side different?
[07:07] <m0u5e> losher: i agree
[07:07] <dtom2444> i use my laptop as my primary computer, so i'm still nervous about upgrading to Jaunty
[07:07] <TopBunny88> how do i kill all of the xwindows
[07:08] <Carrie_> nice thanks!
[07:08] <m0u5e> acfrazier: mm a friend had the same problem... different chipset though, maybe google? (i'm doing that right now)
[07:08] <ripps> Carrie_: I mean right-click
[07:08] <uncmar> disappearedng: understood. Hmm. I just don't knoww.  Sorry.
[07:08] <daNz_ajaCWE_MOET> purwokerto
[07:08] <losher> dtom2444: very wise. Unless there is a feature you can't live without, wait until 9.4.2 LTS comes out
[07:08] <Orbulon> Hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu 9, but every time I run the installer I get a kernel synchronisation error, and it attempts to "kill ini" and then freezes. What should I do
[07:08] <acfrazier> m0u5e, mk
[07:09] <m0u5e> acfrazier: does it give you a specific error?
[07:09] <uncmar> disappearedng: did you apt-get install vim?  might just be using vi ?
[07:09] <yowshi> uncmar: cant have 2 do commands on the same line?
[07:09] <dtom2444> losher: will that be out in October?
[07:09] <Carrie_> ripps, it's middle click for me :P
[07:09] <TheNano> Orbulon: use another cd you can download called alternate
[07:09] <daNz_ajaCWE_MOET> jkjljl
[07:09] <losher> dtom2444: no idea. In a hurry?
[07:09] <Orbulon> TheNano: this fixes it somehow?
[07:09] <Miesco> How do I upgrade to 9.4
[07:09] <ripps> Carrie_: Oh, might might be different because I used wacom tablet
[07:09] <uncmar> yowshi: do isn't a command.  it is part of the syntax and... yes, you can run multiple things between do and done.
[07:09] <Carrie_> ah
[07:10] <TheNano> Orbulon: it would be the first i recommend , if it hase same prob. you can do a memmory test but it will take long time
[07:10] <uncmar> yowshi: do and the command don't have to be on the same line with done.
[07:10] <yowshi> uncmar: well i tried it and got this
[07:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Can someone help me fix X server, which aint starting up?
[07:10] <dtom2444> losher: Just wondering. updates come out every 6 months right? so i was just guessing
[07:10] <Carrie_> ok so he is telling me the firefox was freezing on him and giving him this "weird bug thing on the screen tha tlooked like an orange pill"
[07:10] <yowshi> uncmar:  gcbotcall: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[07:10] <yowshi> gcbotcall: line 2: ` for (( x < 0 ; 5 > x ; x++ )); do echo $x ; do cat gcbot | xmacroplay -d 10 :0 ;'
[07:10] <Carrie_> you have any clue what he's talking about?
[07:10] <disappearedng> uncmar: we are on too different levels let's forget it thx anyway
[07:10] <Orbulon> thanks
[07:11] <yowshi> i intehd to alter that i want this to be a repeating loop until i press ctrl c
[07:11] <uncmar> disappearedng: sorry, my vim is weak in comparison to yours.  Apparently.
[07:11] <regjava> TheNano, I ADDed the cd in to sources, still i get the error package not found
[07:11] <nephilus> I have ssh'd  into my ipod...How do i add music, vids, etc.?
[07:11] <Carrie_> anyone?
[07:12] <yoasif> pronoy_: where should i submit the crash log?
[07:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Can someone help me fix X server, which aint starting up?
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_: oh
[07:12] <pronoy_> yoasif: lemme check
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_: sounds like his firefox failed to draw a dialog box
[07:12] <TheNano> start Synaptic from system admin. and search for it
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_: uh.. . just close it, and it should be fine
[07:12] <vlfark> can you recommend me a good RSS Reader for Ubuntu ?
[07:12] <Carrie_> heh ok
[07:12] <losher> dtom2444: they seem to. But the issue is how quickly 9.04 features mature
[07:12] <Carrie_> i'm not a firefox user so i dunno
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_:  does he have any plugins enabled?
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_: sometimes weird plugins cause that to happen
[07:12] <uncmar> yowshi: semicolons seperate commands on a single line.  Like:   echo 1; echo 2; echo 3; echo 4.  Those commands don't have to be on the same line and it is generally better that they aren't.
[07:12] <Carrie_> i dont think so.. he has a vanilla wubi install
[07:12] <m0u5e> Carrie_: in my experience at least
[07:13] <dtom2444> true
[07:13] <m0u5e> Carrie_: huh, tell him to restart it... see if it happens again
[07:13] <kenyon> vlfark: liferea
[07:13] <TheNano> regjava: start Synaptic from system admin. and search for it , there is a guide on wiki about how to install a packge offline take a look
[07:13] <Carrie_> ok he said it's before he even loads a page
[07:13] <Carrie_> :P
[07:13] <vlfark> kenyon: right now, i`m usign liferea 1.4.26 but it is very slowly ... my hdd is crying :D
[07:14] <losher> matholum: r u there?
[07:14] <dtom2444> TheNano: how is it possible to run as admin?
[07:14] <yowshi> uncmar: it doesnt like that second do though even when i put it on a seperate line and remove the ; it give me the same error
[07:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Can someone help me fix X server, which aint starting up?
[07:14] <TORR3S> JOTOS
[07:14] <m0u5e> acfrazier: i may have a fix for you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports/+bug/329704
[07:14] <pronoy_> yoasif: the bugs have to logged in bugs.launchpad.com exact  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/258497
[07:14] <matholum> losher: just found the specs on dell.com... i think it is a Intel 865PE or 865G
[07:14] <m0u5e> acfrazier: sounds like you should download the ubuntu daily build, and try booting from that :)
[07:14] <m0u5e> acfrazier: hopefully it will fix your problem
[07:14] <TheNano> dtom2444: do you want to run just an app or command ?
[07:14] <uncmar> yowshi: you aren't suppose to use another do.  Just use the next command.  Like this:   while [ 1 ]; do command 1; command 2; command 3; done
[07:15] <matholum> losher: it is a dimension 4600i... not 6400
[07:15] <yowshi> oooo i see ok
[07:15] <Schokos> can someone help me?
[07:15] <regjava> TheNano, Its not present in synaptic
[07:15] <bwm> hi, I'm getting the following when trying to install Flash 10: adobe-flashplugin depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.5); however:
[07:15] <bwm>   Version of libpango1.0-0 on system is 1.20.1-1.
[07:15] <bwm> thoughts?
[07:15] <TheNano> dtom2444: use sudo in terminal before you comman /app , or gksudo in alt+f2
[07:16] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone care to help with xserver issue plz?
[07:16] <yoasif> pronoy_: can't submit the report there, it's not a pidgin issue, it's a facebook plugin issue
[07:16] <dtom2444> TheNano: OH, ok got it
[07:16] <uncmar> Schokos: don't ask to ask.  just ask.
[07:16] <regjava> TheNano, I am not getting any package in the Not Installed section
[07:16] <Schokos> uncmar >> well, i asked three times the past 30 minutes
[07:16] <Schokos> so i don't want to impose :p
[07:17] <regjava> I mean the linux-backport packages
[07:17] <losher> matholum: you might google to see if there are known issues, though it occurs to me that even if they don't, you obviously aren't making progress, and the failure mode is obscure enough that you may never solve the issue.   Just thought I'd share.
[07:17] <yoasif> pronoy_: yes i did
[07:17] <Schokos> uncmar >> I know, that's why i come back every 10-15 minutes and ask again :p
[07:18] <Schokos> I'm having very quick little naps during my wait, it's no big deal ^^
[07:18] <matholum> losher: ya, i may have to... but i would like to have ubuntu... i will google some more now that i know i had the model # wrong
[07:18] <pronoy_> yoasif: they say its an invalid bug...the author has fixed the problem but not comeout with the fix ye
[07:18] <nephilus> what folder is the music located in on ipod touch?
[07:18] <MrStatic> Was curious if anyone knew why my wifi card is being identified as eth2 and not wlan*. It seems to be screwing up a few things because of this. I checked the persistent rules and what not.
[07:19] <lilsnoop> is there a channel for netbooks/linux?
[07:19] <Yondering> yay, got my nvidia card working with the server kernel.   Life is good.
[07:19] <yoasif> pronoy_: not the same bug anyway
[07:19] <reid> lilsnoop: #eeepc
[07:19] <Schokos> uncmar >> wanna know why i'm having trouble? =)
[07:19] <losher> matholum: just for completeness, tell me again exactly what goes wrong...
[07:19] <lilsnoop> reid: ill give it a shot...thanks
[07:19] <TheNano> regjava: try uname -r and tell me the output
[07:19] <Yondering> Schokos, trouble with what?  sorry.
[07:19] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me get my xserver running?
[07:20] <uncmar> Schokos: trouble with what?
[07:20] <Schokos> Yondering >> i installed ubuntu 9.04 on my two computers this evening
[07:20] <crazyl1nk> How can i mount my 2nd hard drive to acc my files?
[07:20] <Yondering> Schokos, and?
[07:20] <yoasif> pronoy_: the bug he is referencing is from a year ago ;)
[07:20] <RedSocrates> yoasif: Got sound working in OpenBox in case you're interested.  It wasn't gnome-settings-daemon.  It's odd, but it was the fact that I was using slim as my display manager rather than gdm.
[07:20] <regjava> TheNano: 2.6.28 -11 - generic
[07:20] <Schokos> and i can't have the cdrom/drive don't know the name, to work/mount
[07:20] <yoasif> RedSocrates: gotcha
[07:20] <matholum> losher: on just about every live disk i get a "unable to mount root fs on unknown block error"... i have gotten the splash sometimes but it freezes... that has only been about 3 times though...
[07:20] <lilsnoop> man it seems dead in there
[07:20] <RedSocrates> yoasif: Thanks for the help
[07:20] <pronoy_> yoasif: it is ..links to the one which you have an issue with...and guess what mine crashed too........i am looking for the new version.......check if you  like http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/issues/detail?id=139
[07:20] <Schokos> and i know they're not broken... I used them to burn the cd for ubuntu a few minutes before that
[07:21] <yoasif> RedSocrates: i guess the openbox-exec launcher or whatever wasnt the same on slim as it was for metacity
[07:21] <RedSocrates> Yeah, maybe so
[07:21] <tgr> how can i install ubuntu from an external usb hard drive without making a cd?
[07:21] <matholum> losher: this is after i choose install from the menu though...
[07:21] <yoasif> pronoy_: the last comment on that bug was Aug 16, 2008
[07:21] <coz_> tgr,  doesn your motherboard support boot from use?
[07:21] <Schokos> everything's working just fine, except the cd...
[07:21] <yoasif> RedSocrates: s/metacity/gdm
[07:22] <coz_> tgr,  I mean boot from usb
[07:22] <RedSocrates> right
[07:22] <tgr> coz_: yes but what would i have to boot
[07:22] <matholum> losher: when i say no quiet, it says something about adding root= in the boot params and tries to show the available partitions and nothing is listed
[07:22] <tgr> i would have to unzip the iso onto my hard drive?
[07:22] <crazyl1nk> How can i mount my 2nd hard drive to acc my files?
[07:22] <yoasif> RedSocrates: slim is really annoying in ubuntu, it doesn't get the same settings as gdm
[07:22] <coz_> tgr,  it would have to be turned into a bootable iso if anything
[07:23] <RedSocrates> yoasif: That's too bad, I like slim
[07:23] <yoasif> RedSocrates: which is why i stopped using it, gdm works fine for me
[07:23] <tgr> coz_:  how would i do that
[07:23] <Yondering> Schokos, do you know what type of cd drive it is?