[13:30] <dd214> botcity ahhh concatenation
[13:30] <bazhang> macca, alt f2 gnome-terminal iirc
[13:30] <mythri> usr13, it asks me y/n... should I continue or not...?
[13:30] <usr13> You could alternately do   dpkg --reconfigure powermgmt-base   But... I suppose you could just run without it.  I don't think it is needed.  not sure really.
[13:30] <usr13> y
[13:31] <mythri> usr13, ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot<it says this
[13:31] <usr13> mythri: ureadahead ?
[13:32] <velcroshooz> is there a way to have seperate wallpapers on a dual monitor setup? also, is it possible to have taskbars on both yet be able to move apps back and forth?
[13:32] <macca> bazhang, it says nosuchcommand gconftool
[13:32] <mythri> usr13, I did the second command for install
[13:32] <macca> bazhang, oh wait missplet
[13:33] <macca> bazhang, now done but the bar hasnt reappeared
[13:33] <akashm1990> I have Ubuntu 10.04 which I upgraded to 10.10 and then installed Unity on it using apt-get. Unity seems to be a bit messed up for me now (no icons on my desktop for example). Is there any way to restore Ubuntu to the original state, or to basically fix unity?
[13:34] <usr13> mythri: It says it is optional.  You might just try and run without it. sudo service gdm restart
[13:34] <usr13> mythri: sudo service gdm restart
[13:34] <macca> bazhang, back now... looks like patience was the answer
[13:34] <Darael> velcroshooz: The latter is easily achieved by adding a panel (right-click an existing one, new panel) then alt-click-and-dragging it to the second monitor and finally adding the appropriate applets.  The former is doable, but requires not having desktop icons IIRC.
[13:34] <Salvor_Hardin> Hello
[13:35] <usr13> mythri: Oh, you did.  Well try restartgin gdm anyway.
[13:35] <velcroshooz> Darael, okay so in twinview for example you can just add panels to it?
[13:35] <usr13> mythri: sudo service gdm restart    or    /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:35] <mythri> usr13, restartgin gdm?
[13:35] <Darael> akashm1990: You should have the option at login time to use "Ubuntu Desktop" or similar - it's a selection box at the bottom, after choosing your user, and it'll be set to "Unity" ATM.
[13:35] <usr13> mythri: Yes restart gdm
[13:35] <bazhang> macca, good news then
[13:35] <Darael> akashm1990: That'll get you your other desktop back, at least.
[13:36] <Darael> velcroshooz: I think so.  Could be remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure it works.
[13:36] <akashm1990> Darael, ok, I'll try that. Also do you know of how to fix unity?  I kind of like it
[13:36] <usr13> mythri: Is this system fully updated?
[13:36] <mythri> usr13, errorname'unset"<it says this
[13:36] <mythri> usr13, yes
[13:37] <velcroshooz> Darael, ill give that a try - i dont mind not having desktop icons, do you know where i might look for instructions on the different wallpaper bit?
[13:37] <lenios_> hi there
[13:37] <bazhang> velcroshooz, using compiz?
[13:37] <Darael> akashm1990: No icons on the desktop is, IIRC, a deliberate design choice.  As for other problems, I've not got enough Unity experience.
[13:37] <velcroshooz> bazhang, yes i am, full effects in appearance
[13:37] <usr13> mythri: uninstall powermgmt-base and try again.  Maybe it IS powermgmt that is causing the problem.
[13:38] <akashm1990> Darael, silly IMO..  Guess I'll uninstall it then
[13:38] <usr13> mythri: Or just reboot it....
[13:38] <bazhang> velcroshooz, there is , if I recall correctly, you may want to ask in #compiz about using the multiple wallpapers
[13:38] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do i update wine ?
[13:38] <mythri> usr13, but i have so many documents inside
[13:39] <bazhang> Bluebill-Wolf, using their own repos? or the ones in ubuntu repos
[13:39] <usr13> mythri: You could do a backup now.  Put in a thumb drive and copy them over.
[13:39] <bazhang> Bluebill-Wolf, #winehq for theirs
[13:39] <Bluebill-Wolf> i ment to add it to the repository when the comptuer searches for updates
[13:39] <velcroshooz> bazhang, okay thanks, i will look through ccsm first, i seem to remember something in there since you mentioned it
[13:39] <Darael> velcroshooz: Install compizconfig-settings-manager if you haven't already, and set it up in the wallpaper plugin.  But first, go alt+f2, type "gconf-editor", and navigate to apps->nautilus->preferences.  Uncheck "show desktop".
[13:39] <Darael> velcroshooz: That should allow the Compiz wallpaper plugin to actally do its job.
[13:39] <usr13> mythri: You don't backup your system?  ... you have a thumb drive. Yes?
[13:40] <endi25> ciao
[13:40] <endi25> ./list
[13:40] <velcroshooz> Darael, great, thanks for the info
[13:40] <endi25> !list
[13:41] <mythri> usr13, i have downloaded gnome-power-manager-2.30.1.tar.bz2 in my documents, I guess if i install through terminal, it would solve. Please help me how to install with command.
[13:42] <usr13> mythri: Why do you have gnome-power-manager in Documents?
[13:42] <usr13> mythri: When and why did you download it?
[13:43] <mythri> I downloaded it and placed the file through partition. I downloaded it after this problem occured as i thought if i would install this it would correct the errors. As it says 'gnome power manager not installed correctly'
[13:43] <lilljocke> how can i unpack a tar.gz with files from 1970?  >implausibly old time stamp 1970-01-01 00:00:00
[13:44] <usr13> mythri: Ok, no..., just delete it.
[13:44] <sipior> lilljocke: that just means that the time entry is zero. look up "unix epoch".
[13:45] <Macer> seriously loving acls.. all the things chmod  and umask cant do.. its great
[13:45] <usr13> mythri: If you want to, backup your documents now.  But I would just uninstall powermgmt-base and reboot and see if it works ok.  (I wouldn't count on it though, I really don't think powermanagement is the issue in the first place - I think it has something to do with the Google Earth install that you did.)
[13:45] <velcroshooz> Darael, i dont seem to have the wallpaper plugin by default - is this something i need to add?
[13:45] <Macer> never even knew they gave you this level of control
[13:46] <Darael> velcroshooz: Hmm, just a sec
[13:46] <usr13> mythri: At any rate, the powermgmt-base is not essential.
[13:46] <mythri>  usr13 oh ok
[13:47] <sipior> lilljocke: if tar is choking on those archives, you might try using pax to unpack them.
[13:47] <vincenzoml> Hi there. I've been struggling with UMTS for three days. I tried both maverick and natty. The problem is always the same: when I insert the usb stick (ALCATEL x225s) after a minute or so I am asked for a pin, but then it does not connect. Under windows it works. Under the beta of maverick from an old usb stick, it works too.
[13:47] <Bluebill-Wolf> nvm i found it
[13:48] <lilljocke> sipior: yes some files are emptry in the time entry but the problem is that i cant extract those files at all  >Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[13:48] <Darael> velcroshooz: Install the compiz-fusion-plugins-extra package, it's in there.
[13:48] <Bluebill-Wolf> will post the line shortly
[13:48] <sipior> lilljocke: it's likely that the archive itself is damaged.
[13:48] <elb0w> Anyone able to tell me how to apply this patch? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/ubuntu/maverick/pianobar/v29/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/v29.patch
[13:49] <elb0w> Never done it before
[13:49] <usr13> mythri: It may even work if you restart it now.  I really don't know.     It will only take a few min.
[13:49] <Bluebill-Wolf> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[13:49] <sipior> lilljocke: was the archive made recently?
[13:49] <lilljocke> sipior: i dont think so i have downloaded it from many differnt places and all is the same
[13:50] <Chepoll> QUESTION: I had once installed CDM and then removed it. Now when I am booting up, right after the text "Welcome to Ubuntu!" and right before I login, it outputs the error message "bash: cdm: command not found". How can I get rid of this please? _info regarding files to search for would be helpful too
[13:50] <velcroshooz> Darael, thank you
[13:50] <Chepoll> cdm : console display manager
[13:50] <sipior> lilljocke: if you downloaded a copy of a broken archive, it will still be broken...
[13:50] <lilljocke> sipior: no its old
[13:51] <oski250> siema usunolem  kosz jak go odzyskac
[13:51] <bazhang> !pl | oski250
[13:52] <Darael> elb0w: pull up a terminal, cd to the source folder in question, and run "patch < /path/to/patch/file"
[13:52] <Sidewinder1>  usr13: mythri has logged off; presumably to reboot, etc. I have followed this since the beginning; thank you for your tireless assistence. I believe that removing power mgt. and rebooting will solve.
[13:53] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Yea, I suppose so, don't really know for sure, but that is what I would do, just remove it and see.
[13:53] <Sidewinder1> usr13: Whether it does or not, it "should' not affect his existing documents.
[13:53] <alessandro_> ciaoooo
[13:54] <alessandro_> ciao a tutti
[13:54] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Yea.   I already told him my opinion on that.    Not sure then.  Perhaps you've not got the version it's meant to patch from?
[13:57] <elb0w> :/
[13:57] <elb0w> well this is lame
[13:57] <Sidewinder1> usr13: I avoid google-anything, like the plague.
[13:57] <Darael> elb0w: Cheer up, someone in here will know what they're on about (which I don't, really.  Just enough to give that first hint).
[13:57] <kesor> i have wrong colours in video playback, how can i fix this? here is a screenshot http://bildr.no/image/872181.jpeg
[13:58] <usr13> Sidewinder1: One major problem with not using the package manager to install something is that you don't have a very good path for uninstalling if it causes some sort of problem on your system.
[13:58] <step21> elb0w, there is a repo/ppa for google earth, why not use that?
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> +1
[13:58] <elb0w> Oh pandora changed their crypto keys
[13:59] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Ok tnx for your input.  BTW, may have to leave in a little bit... so....
[13:59] <fruitwerks> hey all... I have a working setup with a horrible lvm2 config - what I have done is copy my system to a single disk, and modified the fstab to reflect the changes, although I can boot from this drive, I can't boot into it, when I try to edit the grub line it will reboot when I hit tab, and when I hit ctrl-x, it will take me back to a line like there is something wrong with it, any ideas?
[14:00] <fruitwerks> so I am booting from the new disk, but ending up in my old system
[14:00] <Decision> nastjuid you around
[14:00] <Chepoll> and I have solved my problem, sorry for the hassle
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> usr13: No prob, unfortunately I need to attend to some other matters as well; not only that but if his problems are not solved and all he can do is CLI, I would probably do more harm than good.
[14:01] <Decision> i need help installing wireless driver... i have the linux version from my manufacturer
[14:02] <vincenzoml> hi there, how can I get debug information for network-manager and UMTS?
[14:02] <usr13> Sidewinder1: That's ok, I'm sure someone else can pick it up...
[14:02] <kesor> i have wrong colours in video playback, how can i fix this? here is a screenshot http://bildr.no/image/872181.jpeg
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> usr13; Another suggestion would be to boot to Live CD and look around from there...
[14:03] <usr13> Sidewinder1: And besides that, I think I've  given him enough info.  He can probably work through it and may already have by now.
[14:03] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Yea, good idea.
[14:03] <gaelfx> haha, nice, release party irc room
[14:03] <Sidewinder1> usr13: But I don't know where all of the config files are stored and how they should read. :-(
[14:03] <vincenzoml> ok simpler question: is there anyone who connects to the internet trough an UMTS usb stick? Is it supposed to be stable in either maverick or natty?
[14:04] <vincenzoml> It seems to me that the problem is some signal strenght problem, but... just in linux?
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> usr13: Only thing I could do is check mine but I;m running 10.04.
[14:04] <usr13> Sidewinder1: Well, since we no longer use xorg.conf it's a little different.  But, if the live CD generates xorg.conf you USED to be able to just cp it over.
[14:05] <usr13> Sidewinder1: I'm on 10.04 too.
[14:06] <Decision> any idea
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> usr13: Well, I gotta make a call so I'll be away for a bit; but I'll be watching; best of luck!
[14:06] <Bluebill-Wolf> hmm
[14:06] <usr13> Sidewinder1: ttyl
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> Back at 'ya
[14:07] <vincenzoml> no one knows how to get a log from network-manager?
[14:08] <gaelfx> does a USB3.0 add-on card need a power connector to function properly?
[14:08] <usr13> vincenzoml: What do  you need?
[14:08] <vincenzoml> usr13:  I need to see if there is an error when I try to connecto to UMTS, so that I can google the error
[14:09] <usr13> vincenzoml: I'm sorry, what is UMTS?
[14:09] <Decision> and another small issue if i double touch the trackpad  or it thinks i do the mouse  flies all over the place
[14:09] <usr13> vincenzoml: Universal Mobile Telecommunications System?
[14:10] <vincenzoml> usr13: it's something with a SIM card in it that I use to connect to the internet :) I believe it's also called HSDPA or something similar
[14:10] <vincenzoml> usr13: in network-manager it's called in italian something like "broad band mobile connection"
[14:10] <usr13> vincenzoml: And so it's not connecting?
[14:11] <vincenzoml> usr13: anyway it accepts all necessary settings but it does not connect
[14:11] <vincenzoml> usr13: it just times out
[14:11] <usr13> vincenzoml: Are you receiving IP address?
[14:11] <vincenzoml> usr13: it works on another laptop with natty, and it works in windows on the same laptop
[14:11] <usr13> vincenzoml: what does   ifconfig  say/
[14:11] <usr13> ?
[14:12] <usr13> vincenzoml: What does   route -n   say?
[14:12] <vincenzoml> ah, I did now "tail -f /var/log/*" and I am seeing nm-info, it says "GSM connection failed (32) Sending command failed: 'resource temporarily unavailable"
[14:13] <jnlsnl_> ugh what number for chmod is: -rw-r--r-- ? :)
[14:13] <vincenzoml> usr13: it does not get to activate the card at all
[14:13] <dios_mio> jnlsnl_,  644
[14:13] <jnlsnl_> Sweeet TY :))
[14:13] <jnlsnl_> <3
[14:14] <sipior> jnlsnl_: do you know binary? just think: (110) (100) (100)
[14:14] <nikolai_> hi. how would i go about preventing the automatic login into wifi from requiring a keychain password? :)
[14:14] <usr13> vincenzoml: Oh.  Do you have  usb-modeswitch  installed?
[14:15] <Soyo> smbtree: http://pastebin.com/Eu0mmtef #samba is sleeping
[14:15] <usr13> vincenzoml: sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[14:15] <vincenzoml> usr13: yes, actually I tried maverick first and then natty, in maverick I had plenty of files in /etc/usb-modeswitch.d, now they are gone, but the problem persisted in both distros
[14:15] <Decision> usr13,  sipior  how do i install a tar.gz driver its a realtek wireless driver buil for linux
[14:15] <jnlsnl_> sipior nope, but will need to check up on that !
[14:15] <vincenzoml> I apologise for having natty now, but I can't revert again, there's no time.
[14:15] <vincenzoml> usr13: usb-modeswitch and usb-modeswitch-data are installed by default
[14:16] <vincenzoml> usr13: anyway in my lsusb the card shows as a modem, does that confirm that usb-modeswitch is doing its job?
[14:16] <Reiko2> Hi 2gether
[14:16] <L-----D> do I need to compile ffmpeg to get x264 working?
[14:16] <usr13> vincenzoml: Not necessarily
[14:17] <botcity> Decision, it not in the repositories ?
[14:17] <Thrawn> i installed a theme but it wont show up; and i cant reinstall it; i get this error: "cant move directory over directory"
[14:17] <usr13> vincenzoml: you are on 10.04?
[14:17] <vincenzoml> usr13: so I have that package installed :) I see that now in natty the data is packed in a tgz
[14:17] <vincenzoml> usr13: no I am on 11.04 now
[14:17] <Decision> not sure where to look botcity  im new to this
[14:18] <usr13> vincenzoml: Oh, and it's when upgrading to 11.04 that you lost it... right?
[14:18] <vincenzoml> usr13: absolutely not, it was the same in maverick, and I had seen it working in my first natty install
[14:18] <vincenzoml> usr13: I reinstalled many times :)
[14:18] <vincenzoml> usr13: it was the same in maverick, but it was NOT the same in a old maverick beta iso that I had booted from usb
[14:19] <Thrawn> bump :(
[14:19] <vincenzoml> usr13: in that beta, I've seen the card working sometimes
[14:20] <Thrawn> i installed a theme but it wont show up; and i cant reinstall it; i get this error: "cant move directory over directory"
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> !repeat > Thrawn
[14:21] <Decision> Sidewinder1,  any idea?
[14:21] <chrispercol> hi all...I have installed openjdk 6 using apt and also tested the standalone version of sun java but get errors when doing 'java -version'...oddly the errors are intermittent, every several times or so I run the command, anyone have any thoughts?
[14:21] <usr13> vincenzoml: sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:21] <Xilent> grub2 dont shows mdX
[14:22] <vincenzoml> usr13: I see in the logs that both an scsi disk and a usb gsm modem are detected when I connect the usb stick
[14:22] <vincenzoml> maybe that's a bug?
[14:22] <botcity> Decision, lspci -v | grep -A 7 -i wireless gives you your wireless device
[14:22] <Aikar> is 11.04 released at midnight tonight or sometime tomorrow?
[14:22] <usr13> vincenzoml: Maybe it IS a bug.... and just too soon to tell.  I don't see a bug report right now tho... just looking...
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> Decision: The knowlege I don't have regarding wireless would fill a library; sorry :-(
[14:23] <vincenzoml> usr13: I found some, for maverick, but they're incomplete and have not been looked at
[14:23] <Decision> i have the driver just dont know how to install it
[14:24] <vincenzoml> usr13: no upgrades :)
[14:24] <Decision> sidewalk,  do you have knowledge on installing drivers i have a .tar.gx driver for it
[14:25] <lenios_> i'm facing a bug where remote users aren't shown on gdm list at boot (local users are), unless i log in tty and kill gdm-simple-greeter, or unless i log in gdm and then log out. Any idea where this comes from or how to solve it?
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> Decision: I guess you've already tried: Administration--> Hardware Drivers?
[14:25] <airtonix> any ideas why my ubuntu (desktop) acting as a "server" is taking a while to respond when it has to verify my password with sudo ()when the sudo 5min timeout is reached)?
[14:25] <vincenzoml> usr13: in the logs I first see "Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB3", then after some time "ppd timed out or didn't initialise our dbus module", terminating on signal 15, etc. etc.
[14:26] <dajhorn> vincenzoml: sudo does a hostname lookup.   This can hang if /etc/hosts is incorrect or DNS is slow.
[14:26] <vincenzoml> dajhorn: it's not me :)
[14:26] <dajhorn> vincenzoml: Ooops. :P
[14:26] <dajhorn> airtonix: sudo does a hostname lookup.   This can hang if /etc/hosts is incorrect or DNS is slow.
[14:26] <airtonix> dajhorn: bind9 dns isn't slow here
[14:27] <airtonix> dajhorn: ah you mean it does a arpa rev resolution ?
[14:27] <Decision> Sidewinder1,  yes no luck.... now i just downloaded the linux driver from the realotek site
[14:27] <usr13> vincenzoml: Well that must be because it has no login info.  There should be a place for configuration... to tell it what ppp0 info to use.
[14:27] <dajhorn> airtonix: No, that is probably not a problem. Check the /var/log/auth.log file for sudo messages too.
[14:27] <vincenzoml> hmm, it's in network-manager configuration
[14:27] <vincenzoml> usr13: it's in network-manager conf.
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> Decision: You may wish to check their support area for instructions; if you haven't already.
[14:28] <usr13> vincenzoml: Oh yea.... well somehow it's not passing the info or it is incorrect... not sure.
[14:28] <airtonix> dajhorn: any idea how i force a sudo time out apart from opening a new tty ?
[14:28] <llutz> airtonix: sudo -k
[14:28] <usr13> vincenzoml: I wonder if wicd would work?
[14:29] <dajhorn> airtonix: No, I don't.
[14:29] <usr13> vincenzoml: I suppose you could try it and see, but... well I doubt it.
[14:30] <usr13> vincenzoml: I guess it is worth a try.
[14:30] <mav_> hello world
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> Decision: tar.gz files should be handled by Archive Manager; however, from there, I don't know where ubuntu will look for them in order to install. Perhaps some one else cna advisr. That may do it.
[14:30] <vincenzoml> usr13: disconnecting to try the pen on *this* laptop
[14:30] <Sidewinder1> can
[14:30] <celu424> ola
[14:30] <shrys> Hi.. I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 .. Will upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 affect any of my installed apps ? I have ruby,rails etc etc installed and i don't want all of that to get affected..
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> !natty
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> tomorrow...
[14:32] <g0th> hi
[14:32] <mav_> hi
[14:32] <airtonix> dajhorn: no errors... just a 60sec delay from entering password to responding with command output (sudo ls)
[14:32] <g0th> how do I open a pdf file without xref/trailer/eof?
[14:32] <airtonix> dajhorn: 60sec regarddless of command
[14:32] <g0th> The body should still be there so it should be recoverable...
[14:32] <dajhorn> airtonix: Do you have a custom PAM configuration?  eg: Is the computer a domain member?
[14:32] <mav_> have you try whith an hex editor ?
[14:32] <g0th> or more simple: how do I add a eof entry to a file?
[14:32] <botcity> Decision,
[14:32] <botcity> Regarding tar.gz packages, nearly 99.99% packages come with an instructions file named Install or Readme. Search the extracted contents.
[14:33] <dArKd3ViL> how many hours untill natty releases??
[14:33] <g0th> mav_: no, also I do not have a hex editor at my university
[14:33] <dArKd3ViL> can't wait
[14:33] <celu5> ola
[14:33] <celu5> alguien me ayuda
[14:33] <airtonix> dajhorn: it's not a domain member yet*, and I'm fairly certain it's just using default pam... although this is on my "server" so i could have forgotten
[14:33] <pyQ> on Intel® Core™ i5-460M 64 bit processor machine, to install 32cbit ubuntu, is it ok?
[14:33] <pyQ> need your advice
[14:33] <sipior> pyQ: sure, if you want.
[14:33] <sipior> pyQ: why not simply install a 64-bit system?
[14:33] <mav_> and you haven't access to internet for download one ?
[14:34] <pyQ> which version I should install?
[14:34] <usr13> g0th: How was the file generated?
[14:34] <g0th> mav_: the problem is the following, we have a scanner at the university that allows you to scan paper and send them as pdf. apperently it doesnt create xref/trailer/eof (or at least one of them is missing), so the linux programs fail to open the pdf
[14:34] <dajhorn> airtonix: Your timeout could be happening in the PAM stack.   Look at the /etc/pam.d/sudo file.
[14:34] <pyQ> which version I should install?
[14:34] <g0th> usr13: see my comment above
[14:34] <pyQ> Ubuntu 10.10 Latest version
[14:34] <pyQ> Ubuntu 10.10 Latest version
[14:34] <pyQ> Ubuntu 10.10 Latest version
[14:34] <pyQ> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS version  or latest 10.10
[14:35] <FloodBot3> pyQ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:35] <g0th> I do not have the permission to install additional packages but if there is a script that modifies my pdf file such that it can be opened that would be nice :)
[14:35] <usr13> g0th: That still doesn't tell me what application created the file.
[14:35] <sipior> pyQ: it makes no real difference.
[14:35] <g0th> yes it doesnt
[14:35] <g0th> usr13: this will be practically impossible to find out
[14:35] <airtonix> dajhorn: http://dpaste.com/536324/
[14:35] <g0th> usr13: since it is the software in the scanner
[14:35] <g0th> maybe the header helps
[14:35] <mav_> yes that's it
[14:35] <pyQ> sorry didn't mean flooding
[14:36] <usr13> g0th: I doubt it is software in the scanner, it is on the PC
[14:36] <van7hu> ga_pro1988: e cu
[14:36] <pyQ> just happen send 3 msgs
[14:36] <g0th> it is software in the scanner
[14:36] <mav_> ihave you try with another pc ?
[14:36] <usr13> g0th: Are you sure?
[14:36] <g0th> yes
[14:36] <vincenzoml> usr13: back, it works in another laptop with natty
[14:36] <dajhorn> airtonix: Check whether the common-auth and common-account files have changed.
[14:36] <pyQ> sipior> pyQ: it makes no real difference.
[14:36] <g0th> usr13: it is a big scanner/copier that also allows sending pdf
[14:37] <sipior> pyQ: are you attempting to create a feedback loop?
[14:37] <pyQ> why: can I upgrade to latest version from 10.04 or 10.10
[14:37] <pyQ> right
[14:37] <vincenzoml> usr13: it works after I removed the following modules: usbserial, usb_wwan, option
[14:37] <step21> pyQ, yes
[14:37] <mav_> have you try with another pc ?
[14:37] <usr13> vincenzoml: hummmm.... well see what is in /etc/usb-modeswitch.d
[14:37] <vincenzoml> usr13: I then inserted the card, the modules got autoloaded, and everything worked. Now, what should I do?
[14:37] <g0th>  /Creator (Xerox WorkCentre 7345)
[14:37] <pyQ> I see
[14:37] <pyQ> thanks
[14:37] <g0th> mav_: it works with an apple computer
[14:37] <botcity> Decision, compiling from tar should be your last resort.
[14:37] <airtonix> dajhorn: not sure how to tell if they have changed but : http://dpaste.com/536326/
[14:37] <usr13> vincenzoml: I dono....
[14:37] <mav_> ok
[14:37] <g0th> mav_: at least for one file, for another it also seems to fail there
[14:38] <g0th> I also tried on another linux computer there it also fails
[14:38] <vincenzoml> usr13: and how fast it is now!
[14:38] <g0th> what I am looking for is a pdf recovery tool kind of
[14:38] <usr13> g0th: Can you send me one of the files?
[14:38] <g0th> yes
[14:38] <mav_> it seems that the matter comes from the scanner...
[14:39] <usr13> g0th: see my pm
[14:39] <g0th> Scanner is: /Creator (Xerox WorkCentre 7345)
[14:39] <dajhorn> airtonix: These are different than mine.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/599781/  and http://paste.ubuntu.com/599782/
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> g0th: Could you scan into a different format and then convert to pdf.?
[14:39] <vincenzoml> usr13: now googling for "rmmod usbserial umts" and finding *interesting* stuff related to usb-modeswitch
[14:39] <g0th> oh sorry
[14:39] <g0th> I sent it to mav_
[14:39] <dajhorn> airtonix:  The pam_ldap call in your configuration can send the system into timeout.
[14:39] <mav_> lol
[14:40] <usr13> g0th: Send it to my email
[14:41] <dajhorn> airtonix: You have pam_smbpass in there too.  This is certainly not a default configuration.
[14:41] <aber> Can someone help me to build a ppa? I have a broken ubuntu package and a working debian package, but i don't know where to put the files... Is there a, very easy to understand, tutorial?
[14:41] <g0th> done
[14:41] <airtonix> dajhorn: common-session ?
[14:42] <airtonix> dajhorn: i think you pasted common-session when you mean to paste common-account
[14:42] <OerHeks> aber, to fix a broken package > sudo apt-get install -f
[14:42] <dajhorn> airtonix: Right.   Here is my common-account:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/599784/
[14:43] <airtonix> dajhorn: thanks
[14:43] <dajhorn> airtonix: Welcome.
[14:43] <blueintegral> I just tried to update my server and dpkg is complaining about initramfs. Is it safe to set initramfs to not update to fix that?
[14:43] <airtonix> dajhorn: maybe i installed libpam-ldap or something at one point ?
[14:43] <airtonix> dajhorn: because i don't remember making complicated changes such as these
[14:43] <dajhorn> blueintegral:  No.  Ignoring update-initramfs errors is unsafe.
[14:44] <g0th> usr13: it appears that the end "header" of the file is completely missing
[14:44] <aber> OerHeks: There is package for a different version and i would like to provide a newer package using a launchpad ppa...
[14:44] <dajhorn> airtonix: Maybe. The extra stuff in the PAM configuration can cause the sudo timeouts.
[14:44] <vincenzoml> usr13: any idea? I'm seeing things that are beyond of my understanding
[14:44] <airtonix> dajhorn: especially when there is no valid ldap server or ldap-pam configuration
[14:45] <karthick87> How to set vncpasswd in ubuntu?
[14:45] <g0th> usr13: did you get it?
[14:45] <jnlsnl_> Ummm
[14:45] <jnlsnl_> i used sudo -s to change to root... how do i change back :D
[14:45] <g0th> usr13: maybe something like echo %EOF >> file.pdf works?
[14:45] <g0th> echo "%EOF"
[14:45] <g0th> no idea
[14:45] <sipior> jnlsnl_: "exit"
[14:46] <compdoc> type exit
[14:46] <g0th> %%
[14:46] <jnlsnl_> that simple :-)
[14:46] <pyQ> another Q
[14:46] <pyQ> why 64 bit unbuntu end with name AMD
[14:47] <sipior> pyQ: an historical artefact, of sorts.
[14:47] <iceroot> pyQ: because the architecture is called amd64, it has nothing to do with amd-only
[14:47] <blueintegral> dajhorn: so how screwed am I? http://paste.ubuntu.com/599790/
[14:47] <pyQ> for intel 64 bit cpu,  32bit 64 bit ubuntu, which is best choice?
[14:47] <airtonix> dajhorn: simplier : as per comments : sudo pam-auth-update
[14:47] <iceroot> pyQ: depending on your ramsize
[14:47] <pyQ> 4G ram
[14:48] <iceroot> pyQ: then you have to use the amd64 version
[14:48] <airtonix> dajhorn: since commenting out stuff to relfect yours simply resulted in my valid password being rejected (since old auth modules were still in place)
[14:48] <airtonix> dajhorn: thanks for the pointers
[14:48] <pyQ> CPU :  intel Core i5-460 M
[14:48] <dajhorn> airtonix: Welcome.
[14:48] <Anasule> How do you use UPnP to open a port on ubuntu (no i dont want a static rule) ?
[14:48] <pyQ> iceroor: have to use
[14:49] <pyQ> iceroot: have to use ?
[14:49] <usr13> g0th: Maybe there is a firmware upgrade for that scanner that will fix it?
[14:49] <dajhorn> blueintegral: It looks like the udev package is missing.  Don't reboot the server until you fix this problem.
[14:49] <step21> blueintegral, was that from livecd?
[14:49] <g0th> usr13: I cant install it and I already informed the informatic support group
[14:49] <g0th> usr13: but I dont think that there is one available
[14:50] <g0th> usr13: I made some progress btw
[14:50] <airtonix> !info linux-igd | Anasule
[14:50] <dajhorn> blueintegral: What versions of Ubuntu are you upgrading from and to?
[14:50] <g0th> I took the end of another pdf file and appended it to my file, now the error message is different
[14:50] <g0th> but still an error message ^^
[14:50] <airtonix> Anasule: just a guess after searching "apt-cache search upnp"
[14:51] <blueintegral> dajorn: I'm going from 8.04 to 8.10
[14:51] <Tac> so, I'm about to call the father-in-law ... he said one of the kids was messing around and 'removed the bar at the top' .. any idea offhand what a kid could do, to do that?
[14:51] <izinucs> g0th: your scanning multipages with the result of a bad pdf?
[14:51] <Anasule> airtonix: its a start thanks
[14:51] <ZenGuy> is there any way to stream my xbmc collection to my firend over the internet?
[14:51] <step21> Tac, it's not that hard, any kid can do it
[14:52] <pyQ> thanks byr
[14:52] <stianhj> ZenGuy, you could use things like Orb I guess?
[14:52] <ZenGuy> stianhj: orb is for windows
[14:52] <g0th> izinucs: yes
[14:52] <velcroshooz> Tac, right click, "remove this panel" is likely what happened
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> Tac: Simply right click on bar and click remove...
[14:52] <ZenGuy> can someone access upnp resources over a vpn?
[14:52] <g0th> izinucs: the scanner doesnt add the end headers
[14:52] <g0th> it ends with binary stuff
[14:53] <izinucs> g0th: are you using simple scan or xsane?  and what kind of printer/scanner combo?
[14:53] <Sidewinder1> Tac: Now, you're gonna wanna know how to get it back...
[14:53] <stianhj> ZenGuy, that's why I added 'things like'
[14:53] <vincenzoml> so, all: I narrowed my problem. I have this usb modem. What I need to make it work is to first "rmmod option" and then insert the usb stick. How can I do something like that when I insert the usb stick itself? Seems difficult but that will make the difference for the user, who just switched from windows.
[14:54] <Tac> Sidewinder1, yeah, and then I have to explain it over the phone :-p ... I was hoping you guys might have a good way for me to explain that to an elderly guy on the phone :-p
[14:54] <usr13> g0th: I just tried to open it on my MS Windows machine with Adobe 9.2 and it will says it is "damaged and can not be repaired".
[14:54] <g0th> izinucs: I use a hardware scanner, no way to modify that
[14:54] <g0th> usr13: well it can be repaired
[14:54] <usr13> g0th: How?
[14:54] <g0th> but I get something similar
[14:54] <Tac> sidewalk, so anythoughts would be awesome
[14:54] <g0th> the data is all there
[14:54] <Sidewinder1> Tac: I'd have to research; if no one knows, off the top of their head, I'll try :-)
[14:54] <g0th> just the tables and eof are missing
[14:55] <g0th> but they are not really needed
[14:55] <vincenzoml> googling for "option kernel module" is hard...
[14:55] <PhYoshi> So, I've got this old laptop I'm trying to install Ubuntu Netbook on, and I'm having trouble - nothing appears to work! Installer crashes after the language selection screen, and booting it live is just a cycle of loading and failure until I power it off
[14:55] <izinucs> g0th: are they openable at all?
[14:55] <g0th> what do you mean izi?
[14:55] <jatt> vincenzoml: take a look at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[14:55] <usr13> g0th: I think the firmware on that maching needs an upgrade.
[14:55] <g0th> I agree ^^
[14:55] <stianhj> ZenGuy, Jinzora maybe?
[14:55] <step21> PhYoshi, how old exactly?
[14:55] <g0th> but it is old
[14:55] <g0th> probably not maintained anymore
[14:55] <PhYoshi> starting to think that perhaps it's just too old, but seeing as I'm about 300mb away from this month's bandwidth cap, I'm willing to try
[14:55] <izinucs> g0th: does the scanning process create a pdf and is the pdf open-able?
[14:55] <stianhj> ZenGuy, http://alternativeto.net/software/orb/?platform=linux
[14:55] <vincenzoml> jatt: if I blacklist the module then it would not be inserted even when I insert the usb stick, right?
[14:55] <step21> PhYoshi, and what version of ubuntu?
[14:55] <g0th> it creates a pdf and I cannot open it so far
[14:56] <ZenGuy> stianhj: I haven't used jinzora in about 2-3 years but does it do video now?
[14:56] <PhYoshi> step21: Quite old, it has a celeron and 256mb of RAM, and trying with 10.10 netbook
[14:56] <g0th> I mean i can but not with a pdf program
[14:56] <izinucs> g0th: what are you opening it with?
[14:56] <g0th> a hex/text editor
[14:56] <stianhj> ZenGuy, It says so in the description on alternativeto.net, probably just an webinterface for some VLC stuff maybe?
[14:56] <g0th> to admire the binary data
[14:56] <step21> Tac, how to get the panel ack should also be on google ...
[14:57] <ZenGuy> stianhj: alright i'll give that a try then, thanks
[14:57] <jatt>  load it manually then
[14:57] <g0th> I am looking for a program to repair the tables/eof
[14:57] <g0th> resp. recreate them
[14:57] <step21> PhYoshi, it can work, but I'm not sure it will be usable for you, as all netbooks have more power ...
[14:57] <g0th> which should be possible
[14:57] <Tac> yeah, found some stuff googling ...... all looks way to difficult to tell an old man over the phone :( .. I'm gonna have to go there I think
[14:57] <g0th> I already had partial success
[14:57] <usr13> g0th: Error: Cannot find a %%EOF marker anywhere in the file.
[14:57] <izinucs> g0th: there's lots of pdf tools that run in terminal.. I can't remember the name of the one I was reading about the other day but it will fix corrupt/malformed pdf files.. and it's in the repos.. something that might be part of the pdftk package perhaps.
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> Tac: Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472333&highlight=Restoring+top+panel   Not simple, Just keep the bloody kids away! :-)
[14:58] <Jon--> I want to have an alias in terminal but for any instance of something.. specifically I want "dpub" to be replaced with "/home/jon/Dropbox/Public" anytime I enter it in a terminal command. What is the easiest way to do this?
[14:58] <g0th> usr13: yes the whole end header is missing
[14:58] <step21> PhYoshi, do you know if old linux versions ran on it? otherwise it could just be weird hardware that never got suppoerted
[14:58] <g0th> usr13: the file ends with binary data
[14:58] <Bluebill-Wolf> btw i've been wondering . . . is Wine open sourse?
[14:58] <andai> on a laptop. wanna use monitor. screen not in list
[14:58] <PhYoshi> step21: Not a clue, I'm afraid, I don't really know what's inside of it either
[14:58] <jrib> Jon--: create a variable called dpub and then use $dpub where you want
[14:58] <gaelfx> Bluebill-Wolf: pretty sure it is, yeah
[14:59] <Jon--> jrib, the $ is awkward to type, there isn't a way to do this with Bash otherwise?
[14:59] <step21> PhYoshi, you could try running knoppix or a minimal cd for now just to see if it can be useful at all and to check hardware etc
[14:59] <Jon--> The idea is to be fast and efficient
[14:59]  * Bluebill-Wolf nods hmm whats the best method to mount an os in the Virtualbox oem?
[14:59] <Bluebill-Wolf> ose*
[14:59] <jrib> Jon--: not that I know of
[15:00] <andai> Bluebill-Wolf: You mean one that actually exists on your hard drvie?
[15:00] <jrib> Jon--: I guess you could create a symlink at /dpub to whatever you want...
[15:00] <PhYoshi> step21: that sounds like a good plan, but I've been somewhat overdownloading this month and pretty much don't have the bandwidth to spare, so was sort of hoping I could kick this into some sort of working order, even if it's purely terminal based for now
[15:00] <Bluebill-Wolf> yes i have the iso file of the os i want but am unable to have it run properly
[15:01] <g0th> izinucs: pdftk also seems to fail
[15:01] <tjiggi_fo> !resetpanels | Sidewinder1 Tac
[15:01] <Sidewinder1> Thanx, tj
[15:01] <Jon--> jrib, the idea is it being path independent so I can just do cd dpub or mv x dpub
[15:01] <Jon--> I see what you mean though, use a slash and link ;)
[15:01] <jrib> Jon--: yes, so you can just do cd /dpub or mv x /dpub
[15:02] <Jon--> mhm
[15:02] <Jon--> I might do it that way
[15:02] <step21> PhYoshi, I always forget there are ppl with bandwidth limits ... what disk/version did you boot from?
[15:03] <PhYoshi> step21: Ubuntu Netbook 10.10
[15:03] <izinucs> g0th: how did you structure the command?
[15:06] <van7hu|silence> ,11.04
[15:06] <van7hu|silence> !11.04
[15:08] <step21> PhYoshi, can't you choose low-graphics or text mode on boot? or rescue mode or whatever it's called
[15:08] <step21> PhYoshi, otherwise, my best guess would be that you ram is just too low. especially for live.
[15:08] <LAcan> anyone know of a way to disguise your torrent traffic as HTTP in ubuntu.. something simple perhaps?
[15:08] <PhYoshi> step21: I'm not sure, there's no 'Safe Graphics Mode' under modes, and I'm not familliar enough with ubuntu to mess with the boot line itself
[15:09] <LAcan> PhYoshi, there should be a safe mode in your grub2 loader?
[15:09] <vincenzoml> hmmf. I can't find a way to make this card work. This is definitely a bug I need to work around. I have no more time, I tried very hard. Anyone knows how to make the option module reload when I insert a certain usb modem? I've been fiddling with udev rules with no luck.
[15:09] <LAcan> PhYoshi, like the second option
[15:10] <PhYoshi> LAcan: I'm trying to get the installer to run at all, unfortunately - no grub2 here
[15:10] <LAcan> vincenzoml, i can give you newb advice: plug it in and choose system/additional drivers
[15:10] <LAcan> PhYoshi, is it a sony?
[15:11] <vincenzoml> LAcan: totally unrelated :)  I don't have and don't need proprietary drivers it seems from that window.
[15:11] <PhYoshi> LAcan: samsung
[15:11] <LAcan> PhYoshi, are you able to boot from the live CD?
[15:11] <PhYoshi> LAcan: nope, but whether that's due to insufficient RAM or a more serious issue I don't know
[15:12] <PhYoshi> LAcan: it lets me try, but everything spends more time crashing and restarting than doing anything of use
[15:12] <step21> PhYoshi, mmmh. do you know what the boot line (for the installer) was? I don't have it here ...
[15:12] <PhYoshi> step21: I have the laptop in front of me, so one moment
[15:12] <LAcan> PhYoshi, what is the hardare? like how much ram and drive space?
[15:13] <elijah> When I am in the command line, is it possible to have my "*:~$" line or name show as a certain color so I can easily locate the line I initiated a command?
[15:13] <jrib> elijah: yes, google "bash color prompt"
[15:13] <PhYoshi> step21: I can see 'eed boot=casper only-ubiquity initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash--', not sure if that's scrolled one way or the other
[15:13] <PhYoshi> LAcan: 256mb RAM, not a clue about drive space but shouldn't be an issue for a live system, and a 2GHz celeron
[15:14] <Alterno> Good morning Ubuntu channel
[15:14] <LAcan> PhYoshi, i suggest lubuntu
[15:14] <Alterno> I have a few questions
[15:14] <Alterno> Could you guys tell me how can I know what to install or not from the Update Manager
[15:14] <coder2> Hello. I need a suggestion about installing of ubuntu on AMD Zacate mobo. It claims that there is no suitable kernel found
[15:15] <LAcan> Alterno, install everything, unless you need old build libraries specifically
[15:15] <Alterno> Ok
[15:15] <PhYoshi> LAcan: Is that likely to work given that the /installer/ crashes? Will it not use the same basic structure up until there?
[15:15] <Alterno> Will I be able to install the final 11.04 version from the update manager?
[15:15] <LAcan> PhYoshi, try it, its a 640MB download, shouldnt take very long
[15:15] <escott> Alterno, you can see why things are offered but you should generally install everything the only exception is if it is to fix a bug you aren't experiencing
[15:15] <LAcan> PhYoshi, lubuntu is amazing on old hardware
[15:16] <escott> Alterno, yes
[15:16] <Alterno> Thanks for the information, God bless
[15:16] <cyphase> bah, this is the 3rd or 4th time that my session has just crashed, but this time i was near my computer. one moment the screensaver was activating, and when i passed it again, it was at the login screen
[15:16] <PhYoshi> LAcan: Well, I'm a hair off my bandwidth cap this month, so unfortunately doing it just to check is a bit much :P
[15:16] <thien> what time will Ubuntu 11.04 be released ? I'm burning to download it. :x
[15:16] <Pici> thien: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[15:17] <vincenzoml> thien: 11.04 is frozen. Download it now, what does it change?
[15:17] <Pici> vincenzoml: No.
[15:17] <LAcan> PhYoshi, look ubuntu is not gonna perform well on that setup. lubuntu is gonna fly, i promise
[15:17] <elijah> jrib: Thanks!! That is good to know other people do it too! So, I just checked my .bashrc file and this is already in it (http://pastey.net/149424 ) ... but it isn't working.. should I comment that out and just use  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt
[15:17] <vincenzoml> ok thien, I think I am wrong :)
[15:17] <coder2> So nobody has dealed with AMD APUs ?
[15:17] <cyphase> oh yea, i forgot about natty being released this week. i haven't really been following this release cycle
[15:17] <SuperMario> hi, "There is a tradeoff between memory usage and speed" is this true in general ?
[15:17] <LAcan> coder2, whats the issue?
[15:17] <SuperMario> cyphase: hmmm
[15:17] <escott> elijah, i updated mine recently ubuntu changes some things around
[15:17] <escott> one sec
[15:17] <SuperMario> we met somewhere, did we ?
[15:17] <PhYoshi> LAcan: I've accepted that, and am totally willing to run it entirely from a terminal if I have to :P
[15:17] <vincenzoml> Pici: it's not frozen? I thought so
[15:18] <coder2> LAcan: I cannot install 10.04 on it. It clains that there is no suitable kernrl
[15:18] <LAcan> PhYoshi, ok then, for the recod lubuntu also has a terminal :)
[15:18] <LAcan> coder2, u have a 32 or 64 bit machine?
[15:18] <jrib> elijah: that should work.  Are you using the default terminal in the default shell in ubuntu?
[15:18] <coder2> 32
[15:18] <PhYoshi> LAcan: I'll absolutely consider it come 1st may, I promise ;)
[15:18] <cyphase> SuperMario, yea, #css
[15:18] <coder2> LAcan: 32-bit
[15:18] <escott> elijah, first you need to force the color prompt with color_prompt=yes because gnome-terminal doesn't report itself as color supporting
[15:18] <Pici> vincenzoml: Frozen just means that no updates should be pushed without prior approval of the release manager.  And issues that come up when testing isos and any other serious issues will require that changes be uploaded.
[15:18] <LAcan> coder2, i suspect you download the 64 bit package by mistake as it is labeled "AMD64"...?
[15:19] <coder2> LAcan: I'm sure, no
[15:19] <elijah> jrib & escott, I am actually using the default terminal that comes with Kubuntu
[15:19] <LAcan> coder2, which ISO did you download? what is the name of it?
[15:19] <escott> elijah, echo $TERM if it isnt xterm or rxvt you need to force the color prompt
[15:20] <elijah> escott: Ok, I uncommented force color prompt line and it is working
[15:20] <jrib> escott: it's not relevant since he's using kubuntu, but I'm pretty sure it works fine in gnome-terminal, no?
[15:20] <coder2> LAcan: alternate image. I'll check the "normal", thank you for the idea.
[15:20] <elijah> thanks jrib and escott, you have been very helpful!
[15:20] <LAcan> coder2, u need the live i386 package im thinking
[15:20] <LAcan> lol 386
[15:21] <escott> jrib, i know it doesn't work for guake (which is what i use) because it reports itself as xterm not xterm-color which is what ubuntu .bashrc demands
[15:21] <escott> guake uses the same widget as gnome-terminal so i think the same problem is there
[15:21] <LAcan> coder2, and get 10.10
[15:21] <user82> hi. where is the folder with the start meno entires in ubuntu?
[15:21] <jrib> user82: why do you ask?
[15:21] <LAcan> user82, /home/.config/autorun
[15:21] <user82> i need to add one jrib
[15:22] <escott> user82, the gui for this is alacarte
[15:22] <jrib> user82: right click on the ubuntu menu icon and click edit
[15:22] <RichiH> i heard that openstack will be part of ubuntu 11.04, but packages.u.c does not have any result for packages
[15:22] <Abhijit> hi
[15:22] <Abhijit> is there any GUI way to have and manage one encrypted foler?
[15:22] <coder2> LAcan: I need LTS because some needed 3dparty packages are less problematic for 10.04
[15:22] <user82> jrib, not possible..does not work in elementaryOs
[15:22] <LAcan> coder2, ah right, LTS
[15:23] <LAcan> Abhijit, right click the folder, should give you an ecnruption option...?
[15:23] <Pici> RichiH: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to inquire about that. :)
[15:23] <RichiH> ta
[15:23] <LAcan> coder2, which packages out of interest?
[15:23] <Abhijit> LAcan, no
[15:24] <Crowley2> Abhijit: cryptkeeper!?
[15:24] <coder2> LAcan: vdr+plugins+custom XMBC build
[15:24] <Soyo> When I do smbtree with debugging level set to 10 I get this --> http://pastebin.com/D5X2VYti My LAN is not in  the 208.x.x.x range..
[15:24] <user82> LAcan, found it. thanks
[15:24] <shmup> so i'm doing this lab for class, and it's based in windows but i didnt think it'd matter too much doing this on linux
[15:24] <Soyo> I also see a permissions error..
[15:24] <Abhijit> Crowley2, yeahj. thats seems the solution. let me try it. thank you.
[15:24] <shmup> it just has me modifying a host file and whatnot but...
[15:24] <mazal> Abhijit, Truecrypt is also an option
[15:24] <shmup> it wants me to view the dns name cache
[15:24] <shmup> is this not available on ubuntu by default?
[15:24] <LAcan> user82, ya just drag icons in there, nice and simple
[15:24] <Abhijit> mazal, Is it gui?
[15:25] <mazal> Yep
[15:25] <mazal> It creates 1 encrypted file that you can mount anytime you need
[15:25] <LAcan> Abhijit, truecrypt is the best... mazal can u mount truvrypt folders or volumes thru TC for window?
[15:25] <mazal> Even on different OS's
[15:25] <Abhijit> ok. thanks mazal
[15:26] <mazal> LAcan, yes , I have used my truecrypt file on both Ubuntu and Windows
[15:26] <Abhijit> mazal, LAcan i want this folder not accessible by any live linuc cd? is that possible?my home dir is not encrypted.
[15:26] <LAcan> amazing doftware that trucrypt
[15:26] <LAcan> Abhijit, it wont be accessible by anything but your password. write it down.
[15:27] <Abhijit> ok
[15:27] <RichiH> alternatively, where is the package list for 11.04?
[15:27] <mazal> Abhijit, just make sure to make the encrypted file bin enough ;)
[15:27] <Abhijit> RichiH, packages.ubuntu.com
[15:27] <mazal> big even
[15:27] <RichiH> ah, natty?
[15:27] <adac> how to test access rights of a folder and all its subfolders
[15:27] <Abhijit> RichiH, all
[15:27] <vincenzoml> hey, I'm going for the simplest solution: create a launcher that removes option, the user will use it. But:
[15:27] <LAcan> RichiH, #ubuntu+1
[15:27] <jrib> adac: what does "test access" mean?
[15:28] <Abhijit> mazal, means? you are talking about the size?
[15:28] <vincenzoml> nothing, sorry
[15:28] <adac> jrib, well Ofr some reasons I have no write access in /usr/local/rvm/gems with my user. But access right and groups and so on should be ok
[15:28] <karthick87> Can anyone help me to set password in vnc?
[15:28] <RichiH> LAcan: nah, i am fine and found the packages i need
[15:28] <mazal> Yes Abhijit , Truecrypt creates and empty encrypted file. You choose for example 4gig. Then that file is mounted as a device when you need it and you can store files and folders in it.
[15:29] <jrib> adac: pastebin: ls -ld /usr/local/rvm/gems; groups
[15:29] <adac> So I'm not sure how to debug this, I compared it to another machine where it works, and I cannot see a diffrence jrd0
[15:29] <adac> jrib, ^^
[15:29] <LAcan> !natty | RichiH
[15:29] <Abhijit> mazal, ok
[15:29] <Abhijit> mazal, actually i dont understand how the big size of file helps to keep it secure?
[15:30] <mazal> Abhijit, when it is dismounted then you can only see the 1 encrypted file again , and it can't be opened
[15:30] <Abhijit> ok
[15:30] <mbeierl> why does the gnome panel insist on re-arranging all my applets whenever I reboot?
[15:30] <mazal> Abhijit, it's just so you have enough space for everything you want to put in it
[15:30] <adac> jrib, http://pastie.org/1839444
[15:30] <Abhijit> mazal, oh i see. got it. thanx.
[15:30] <escott> Abhijit, it hides information about how bit the file is, truecrypt also has features to allow for hidden files inside hidden files
[15:31] <mazal> It's an "image" file if I can call it that
[15:31] <Abhijit> mazal, escott yeh
[15:31] <jrib> adac: your user is not in the "rvm" group
[15:31] <LAcan> TrueCrypt: The choice of kiddie diddlers the world over.
[15:31] <escott> you get stopped at customs/kidnapped by the bad guys and they force you to give your password so you give the safe password to the fake copy not the real copy
[15:31] <Abhijit> :-)
[15:32] <jrib> adac: keep in mind that if you recently added him to the group, you need to log in again
[15:32] <adac> jrib, ahhh
[15:32] <adac> ok then i should logout
[15:32] <adac> ;)
[15:32] <adac> since I did add it before
[15:32] <escott> ecryptfs does no such thing and it is possible to figure out what a file might be for (but not its contents)
[15:32] <adac> jrib, tnak you
[15:32] <adac> thank you
[15:33] <Abhijit> excok
[15:33] <jrib> adac: no polbem :)
[15:33] <Abhijit> escott, ok
[15:34] <z0mbyk1d> im having trouble with logrotate. I added a file under /etc/logrotate.d, I see that logrotate is run under /etc/cron.hourly. I created this file/log yesterday at 11am. I set the directive to rotate 30; daily. can I expect that it will actually rotate the file at 11am? I was sort of expecting it to happen when the day changed (midnight) but I seem to maybe remember reading that it depends when the file is created
[15:36] <Macer> hm
[15:36] <Macer> why cant i set the sticky bit on a dir?
[15:36] <Macer> it wont g+s
[15:37] <jrib> Macer: erm, g+s is not sticky bit :/
[15:37] <escott> Macer, there is no "group" sticky bit, there is one sticky bit
[15:37] <Macer> oh
[15:37] <fumanchu182> Just upgraded to 11x, interesting desktop here.
[15:38] <Macer> i thougght it was g+s
[15:38] <Macer> to keep new files in the grp
[15:38] <Roasted_> Has anybody used italc before on Ubuntu? I'm having some issues understanding which keys I need and where they need to be located.
[15:40] <vibhav> heloo everybody!
[15:40] <escott> Macer, sticky bit (for temp files) is +t. setuid is +s neither are group/user specific. remember the whole thing fits into 8 bits srwxrwxrwxt
[15:41] <escott> Macer, sorry thats 11 cant count
[15:41] <Macer> eshttp://gnufans.net/~deego/DeegoWiki/DebianSetuid.html
[15:41] <Macer> so how do i make the files remain in the same grp?
[15:41] <vibhav> is there some second by second  countdown timer for ubuntu 11.04?
[15:42] <Macer> g+s doesnt seem to work
[15:42] <sipior> escott: setuid is definitely user/group specific. both setuid and setgid are possible.
[15:42] <vibhav> what you peoplr are talking about?
[15:42] <Macer> according to the debian docs
[15:42] <escott> sipior, Macer nm i'm wrong
[15:42] <vibhav> what you peoplr are talking about????
[15:42] <Macer> and the man page heh
[15:42] <Pici> vibhav: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <jrib> Macer, escott: there is setuid and setgid
[15:42] <z0mbyk1d> Pici: it's releasing tomorrow, actually
[15:42] <vibhav> awwwww.I cant wait!
[15:42] <Macer> hm... ok
[15:43] <Arek> join blender3d.pl
[15:43] <jrib> Macer: g+s will make it so that newly created files have the same group as the directory they are in
[15:43] <Macer> jrib: that is what i want
[15:43] <jrib> Macer: then do it
[15:43] <Roasted_> Has anybody used italc before on Ubuntu? I'm having some issues understanding which keys I need and where they need to be located.
[15:43] <Macer> i tried
[15:43] <Macer> it wont work
[15:43] <Macer> i dont see the sticky bit when i do it
[15:43] <jrib> Macer: show us you trying and it not working at paste.ubuntu.com
[15:44] <Macer> i am doing chmod -Rv g+s dir
[15:44] <jrib> Macer: please don't write commands in here, just pastebin what I asked
[15:45] <Macer> actually... i think i know what is causing it
[15:45] <Macer> brb
[15:45] <jrib> Macer: ok.
[15:45] <dragonlive> anyone who has the changeable IP adress to enter the http://bbs.ziqiang.net/?fromuid=16805?
[15:46] <BlouBlou> dragonlive: why?
[15:46] <dragonlive> I want to try the secure of the webset
[15:47] <BlouBlou> dragonlive: then try a proxy or tor
[15:47] <dragonlive> yeah , I am using the tor
[15:47] <dragonlive> who can help me?
[15:48] <BlouBlou> dragonlive: if you want to check the security of your web, use a proxy, don't ask people to join there
[15:48] <ski_> when i do `su - other_user', it gets inexplicably "Killed" after a few seconds
[15:48] <dragonlive> yeah ,thank u for your advice
[15:48] <ski_> and idea what might be causing this ?
[15:48] <ski_> (i'm on Maverick Meerkat)
[15:49] <jrib> ski_: what exactly happens?
[15:50] <ski_> i enter `su - other_user', then password, and i'm in as `other_user' ..
[15:50] <jrib> ski_: i'm more interested in the ".." part
[15:50] <ski_> .. then i start issuing commands, and get interrupted by "Killed" after 2-10 seconds
[15:50] <jrib> ski_: what sort of install is this?
[15:50] <ski_> i.e., `su' (and every subprocess) is killed
[15:51] <ski_> um, it's a resident box. no live-cd
[15:51] <ski_> (or what did you mean ?)
[15:51] <qweqweqwe> :hey
[15:51] <Project_eXa> hi
[15:51] <qweqweqwe> what time will 11.04 be released?
[15:51] <jrib> ski_: did you install yourself?  From a desktop cd?
[15:52] <Pici> qweqweqwe: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <jrib> !who | ski_
[15:52] <qweqweqwe> Pici: party!
[15:52] <vibhav> qweqweqweqwe : why?
[15:53] <ski_> jrib : my brother installed it (from an iso/cd downloaded from the ubuntu site, iirc)
[15:53] <ski_> (ubottu : yeah i know :) i just figured it didn't matter as long as there'sn't much talk :)
[15:54] <jrib> ski_: anything interesting in /etc/security/limits.conf maybe?
[15:54] <debd> how can I make ntop monitor eth1 instaed of eth0  ?
[15:55] <ski_> jrib : hm, only comments there
[15:55] <iceroot> debd: is ntop --help showing an option? dont have it installed so i cant look myself
[15:56] <debd> iceroot: I'm taking a look
[15:56] <fruitwerks> anyone know a good grub2 how-to
[15:57] <tuxx-> man grub2
[15:57] <tuxx-> \o/
[15:57] <LAcan> fruitwerks, what u trying to do?
[15:57] <debd> iceroot: actually the interface settings can be changed from the web interface. but it aint working
[15:57] <Pnux> hey guys, how can i find a command i used a long time ago in a terminal? if i press the up key i can see commands i used before that, but its impossible to find. I know how it ends, so it will be easy with grep.
[15:57] <llutz> debd: man ntop (-i iface)
[15:57] <escott> Pnux, history
[15:57] <tuxx-> Pnux: history
[15:57] <vibhav> i want to setup my samba
[15:57] <vibhav> anybody to help?
[15:57] <debd> llutz: do I need the parenthesis?
[15:58] <Pnux> tuxx-, escott: history what?
[15:58] <tuxx-> Pnux: just type in `history | less`
[15:58] <jrib> ski_: your brother do anything after default install?  It's definitely not default behavior
[15:58] <llutz> Pnux: history or "ctrl r"
[15:58] <Pnux> oh, thanks
[15:58] <vibhav> anybody to help in setting up my samba?
[15:58] <Project_eXa> Anybody have any experience interpretting wireshark?
[15:58] <nameless`> vibhav: "i want to setup my samba" followed by "anybody to help" is the best way to not get any help
[15:58] <llutz> debd: you should read the man-page. -i is the option you're looking for
[15:58] <vibhav> then how?
[15:58] <LAcan> Project_eXa, a little...
[15:58] <escott> Pnux, or !command[TAB]
[15:58] <vibhav> i am a n00b to IRC
[15:59] <nameless`> vibhav: it both show that you obviously not made any research on the internet by your own
[15:59] <tuxx-> vibhav: start with handing out free beer! always the best option :-D
[15:59] <vibhav> but not a n00b in ubuntu
[15:59] <fruitwerks> LAcan - well I had a crappy setup, so what I did was rsync everything to a single drive, single partition like I wanted it in the first place, the drive had legacy grub on it, and I attempted to install grub2 to it, but I can't boot off of it anymore
[15:59] <nameless`> vibhav: and that you don't want to make any efforty
[15:59] <Project_eXa> Anywhere i can find information as to what all information i'm looking at?
[15:59] <LAcan> hey nameless, who made you the newb police?
[15:59] <escott> Pnux, [ENTER] not [TAB] sorry
[15:59] <LAcan> fruitwerks, theres an os on this drive?
[15:59] <Pici> Project_eXa: ##networking would be a good place to start
[15:59] <nameless`> LAcan: i'm not sure to understand your question
[15:59] <vibhav> i wanted to make an effort
[15:59] <Project_eXa> thank you for the help!
[16:00] <z0mbyk1d> im having trouble with logrotate. I added a file under /etc/logrotate.d, I see that logrotate is run under /etc/cron.hourly. I created this file/log yesterday at 11am. I set the directive to rotate 30; daily. can I expect that it will actually rotate the file at 11am? I was sort of expecting it to happen when the day changed (midnight) but I seem to maybe remember reading that it depends when the file is created
[16:00] <fruitwerks> LAcan - there is now a clone of my working install on there
[16:00] <Pici> vibhav: It would help if you could provide some more details to the channel of what you're trying to do exactly.
[16:00] <vibhav> i once set up samba via SWAT
[16:00] <LAcan> Project_eXa, so youve suxxessfully captured packets?
[16:00] <Pnux> escott: that just ran the last time i used that command, but i had to recover the parameters. Thanks for the help
[16:00] <Project_eXa> yes
[16:00] <LAcan> fruitwerks, and ur in ubuntu now?
[16:00] <Project_eXa> I'm using wireshark for the first time, trying to understand more how it works
[16:00] <fruitwerks> yeah I can boot to my original setup
[16:01] <jrib> ski_: the system isn't running out of memory, right?
[16:01] <LAcan> Project_eXa, ok well most of the data is junk packets... ws uses a color scheme... google is your frind on this one
[16:01] <Macer> weird
[16:01] <Macer> i just deleted everything in the dir
[16:01] <Macer> and made a new dir and now it works
[16:01] <kaatta> im having an issue with downloading drivers from live USB, it appears to be a known and fixed bug. but im wondering how i can apply the fix so that my live USB will work properly?
[16:01] <ski_> jrib : nope
[16:02] <Project_eXa> Googling it now, but which packets are not junk?
[16:02]  * ski_ is attempting to find the install-cd, amongst his brothers cds ..
[16:02] <LAcan> fruitwerks, the easiest way to do this is for you to dl an app called "grub customizer" ask google and add the PPA to your software centre. after its installed run "os-prober". that will create an entry in the customizer, and then u can simply add it to the grub2 menu, all GUI style
[16:02] <iceroot> kaatta: we dont know what problem you are talkiong about, also we dont know what fix you are talking about
[16:02] <Project_eXa> I have white, green, black, light blue
[16:02] <Project_eXa> and grays
[16:02] <escott> Pnux, man history you can put !?command to go a litter further back
[16:03] <Pnux> escott: well, its not in history anyway, which is weird, cause i can see older stuff there
[16:03] <ski_> (jrib : but to the best of my knowledge, this is a "standard" install, with no strange custom tweaks ..)
[16:03] <LAcan> Project_eXa, ya, ur in the wrong place for that. Wireshark will give you explanations of the different types of packets in the help or info section. u need to google the rest. I suggest you start by learning how to filter packets so the junk ones dont show up, starting with those to and from your own IP. good luck.
[16:03] <escott> Pnux, if you have multiple shells open they can overwrite each others history, some shopt options can fix that
[16:03] <fruitwerks> LAcan, this is a headless install - and the new drive no longer boots after I apparently improperly installed grub2, it boots off the old drive
[16:03] <Project_eXa> Thank you for the starting place to look lacan
[16:04] <kaatta> iceroot, update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory
[16:04] <escott> Pnux, add shopt -s histappend to your .bashrc (cmdhist histverify) are also nice
[16:04] <LAcan> fruitwerks, ok this makes ur life more difficult. u got a live CD?
[16:04]  * LAcan can stuff be installed when booting from a live Cd?
[16:04] <fruitwerks> nope :/ why do I need a livecd, I have a perfectly good booting system/
[16:04] <Pnux> escott: meh, im not worried about that, i doubt i will need to use history again
[16:05] <kaatta> iceroot, i can see the code they used to fix, but i have no clue as to how im supposed to take that code and implement it
[16:05] <LAcan> fruitwerks, sorry, i thought u said it wasnt booting? what OS are u getting into?
[16:05] <escott> Pnux, you say that now :)
[16:05] <Pnux> escott: im not staying long in this os
[16:05] <kaatta> iceroot, the bug is 557023
[16:05] <Pnux> escott: but ill keep it in mind
[16:06] <ski_> (jrib : hm "Ubuntu 9.10 i 386" .. that's probably not the cd, since this is 10.10)
[16:06] <fruitwerks> LAcan lol.. ok sorry - I can boot my current and working setup, I am unable to boot to a NEW disk (that had a working grub legacy install) with an rsync of my working system on it
[16:06] <LAcan> fruitwerks, if u just want to boot the partition I suggest PLoP, more so I suggest the "Ultimate Boot CD" which has PLoP on it and can boot any partition independetly of the HDD
[16:06] <jrib> ski_: if you just su - otheruser and do nothing is it still killed after some time?
[16:06] <LAcan> fruitwerks, ok, so u are in ubuntu 10.x?
[16:06] <iceroot> kaatta: sudo apt-get install casper
[16:07] <ski_> jrib : indeed
[16:07] <fruitwerks> LAcan - yes I am in my working setup - I just need to properly install grub2 to another disk which will become the new root
[16:07] <jrib> ski_: don't know
[16:07] <iceroot> kaatta: if i am correct only that package was fixed (and is in the repos)
[16:08] <ski_> it's very strange -- i haven't experienced anything like this before
[16:08] <kaatta> iceroot, i dont know what that means exactly but i understood the apt-get and did it, hoping it works
[16:08] <LAcan> fruitwerks, ok go to console and "sudo os-prober" tell me what it says
[16:08] <ski_> jrib : ok. thank you for the effort, anyway
[16:08] <LAcan> fruitwerks, after mounting your rsync'd partition
[16:08] <iceroot> kaatta: sudo apt-get install casper  is installing the newest version of casper in which the bug has been fixed
[16:08] <fruitwerks> ./dev/sda1:Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS (10.04):Ubuntu:linux
[16:09] <LAcan> fruitwerks, anything else?
[16:09] <iceroot> kaatta: and the launchpad entry says, that in the newest version its fixed
[16:09] <fruitwerks> that is the new disk that has a broken grub2
[16:09] <fruitwerks> LAcan, no that was all
[16:09] <LAcan> ah ok good!
[16:09] <LAcan> so sda1 is the broken one fruitwerks ?
[16:09] <kaatta> ah, k. figured that might be it. /sigh, why cant these simple instructions be somewhere easy to find?
[16:09] <fruitwerks> LAcan, yes, sda1 is what I need booting
[16:09] <LAcan> wicked
[16:10] <LAcan> fruitwerks, no google "grub customizer" and install it. i suggest u use ubuntu sofwatre centre by adding the PPA listed on that page
[16:10] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do I remove a repository ?
[16:10] <Laggg> why cant i cp into my filesystem?
[16:10] <Bluebill-Wolf> in the termanal?
[16:10] <vibhav> Laggg : try sudo
[16:10] <Laggg> cp: omitting directory `/home/laggg/Downloads/android-sdk-linux/'
[16:10] <bean_> Laggg, cp -r
[16:11] <Laggg> whats the -r for?
[16:11] <Bluebill-Wolf> i'm in the root termanal
[16:11] <LAcan> RESPECT
[16:11] <LAcan> lol
[16:11] <fruitwerks> LAcan - does that have a cli? this is a headless system
[16:11] <jatt> !root
[16:11] <cpatrick08> @Bliebill-Wolf http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[16:11] <jatt> use sudo not root
[16:11] <vibhav> ya
[16:11] <LAcan> fruitwerks, what u mean "headless" system?
[16:11] <vibhav> jatts right
[16:11] <fosser_josh> what is the size of ubuntu 11.04 repository
[16:11] <fruitwerks> LAcan as in no monitor, ssh only
[16:11] <Soyo> If I type ping XPS (the name of a Dell XPS running Windows over my samba network) for some reason the IP address is coming out to <IP_ADDRESS>.. That's not my lan 192.168.x.x The peculiar thing is that the other computers on the network seem to have the same address!?
[16:12] <zaytsev> hi folks... is there a pre-compiled atlas library for core i5?
[16:12] <vibhav> fosser_josh : why do you want to know that?
[16:12] <fruitwerks> jatt - do I know you? from long ago?
[16:12] <zaytsev> I see libatlas3gf-corei7sse3 in here on maverick, but I am not sure if ti's gonna work on i5
[16:12] <Macer> ok this is weird. why cant i change the grp of my own home dir?
[16:12] <fosser_josh> vibhav: i want to setup ubuntu repo server
[16:12] <Soyo> Except my linux machine is just fine
[16:12] <Laggg> what was the -r for? It worked
[16:12] <Bluebill-Wolf> i understand that its a repository issue
[16:12] <jatt> no
[16:12] <zaytsev> also libatlas3gf-amd64sse3 isn't for me, right?
[16:12] <LAcan> fruitwerks, hrmmm. u would know about that better than me... check out the page for GC and see what it says, ive only used the GUI version but im certain theres a terminal version as well
[16:12] <Soyo> Laggg: recursive?
[16:13] <Bluebill-Wolf> and to add it its a .add-apt-repository  (sourse here)
[16:13] <Bluebill-Wolf> but how do i remove it?
[16:13] <escott> Soyo, sounds like <IP_ADDRESS> is your internet global address, all the 192.* are local behind the NAT
[16:13] <JoshDreamland> Is there a way to nab 11.04 a day early?
[16:13] <cpatrick08> @Bliebill-Wolf http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[16:13] <Pici> fosser_josh: This page and #ubuntu-mirrors should help you either estimate or get the exact size of the 11.04 repos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[16:13] <jrib> !natty | JoshDreamland
[16:13] <JoshDreamland> I hear it doesn't run X, and I need a full test suite for a laptop I'm going to be able to run it on
[16:14] <Soyo> escott: Is that normal to go looking outside of the LAN?
[16:14] <cyphase> JoshDreamland, natty does run X
[16:14] <LAcan> JoshDreamland, yes and #ubuntu+1 plz
[16:14] <Macer> i am getting operation not permitted for chgrp??
[16:14] <Macer> wow
[16:14] <Macer> i have no idea why
[16:14] <Soyo> escott: I can't smbtree either
[16:14] <LAcan> Macer, its called "sudo" look into it!
[16:14] <escott> Soyo, not really, local addresses should resolve to the local variant unless you misconfigured your DNS
[16:15] <LAcan> escott, Soyo  his router may be doing the misconfiguring
[16:15] <Soyo> LAcan: checking..
[16:15] <escott> LAcan, Soyo agreed assuming the router is doing the dns
[16:15] <fruitwerks> argh.. thanks all
[16:16] <Macer> LAcan: that is not the cause
[16:16] <Macer> it is MY dir
[16:16] <Macer> but i figured it out
[16:16] <LAcan> Soyo, ur router is a dlink or sumthing like that? its not a PC right?
[16:16]  * Macer facepalms
[16:16] <Macer> forgot to add my username to the grp
[16:16] <vibhav> fosser_josh : refer to http://popey.com/blog/2006/10/24/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror/
[16:16] <Macer> awesome
[16:16] <Macer> all this time ugh
[16:17] <debd> llutz: /quit
[16:17]  * LAcan nods at MK``
[16:17] <fosser_josh> Pici: vibhav: thanks
[16:17] <MK``> Hi; My GNOME Panel is not responding when I rebooted, it froze and jitters. How do I edit the config files for it to remove applets that may be causing the error?
[16:18] <vibhav> fosser_josh : thats the wrong url , refer to http://www.opensecuritylab.org/making-a-local-ubuntu-910-repository-server
[16:18] <vibhav> fosser_josh : GL
[16:18] <linuxman410> when i install ubuntu 10.04 resolution works on my video when i upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 resolution quits working
[16:18] <linuxman410> when i install lubuntu 10.04 resolution works on my video when i upgrade to lubuntu 10.10 resolution quits working
[16:19] <aroman> hey, can anyone help me get multitouch working on my trackpad in ubuntu?
[16:19] <IdleOne> linuxman410: #lubuntu
[16:19] <linuxman410> sorry i meant ubuntu
[16:19] <aasmo> hi i am using ubuntu 10.01 i have installed tftpd-hpa and configured it , but while accessing from client getting error as time out
[16:20] <stianhj> aroman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[16:20] <Macer> exit
[16:20] <linuxman410> IdleOne i meant ubuntu
[16:20] <aroman> stianhj: well beyond that
[16:21] <IdleOne> linuxman410: so why did you ask in #lubuntu first? patience, the best place to get help is the channel for your distro.
[16:21] <aroman> synaptics isn't recongnizing my trackpad as mulittouch
[16:21] <aroman> in fact, its not recognizing it as a trackpad at all
[16:21] <jkoudys> Empathy 2.32.1 has suddenly started giving me "network error" messages instantly after attempting to connect when I try and use gchat. Other chat services work. What are the first steps to debug?
[16:21] <vibhav> linuxman410 : refer to http://techdigger.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/multitouch-on-synaptics-trackpad-on-linux/
[16:22] <linuxman410> IdleOne because i have tried bot oses same think
[16:22] <stianhj> aroman, i don't have anything multitouch, but doesn't it use a different driver than synaptics (and by extension different tools) with utouch and such?
[16:22] <vibhav> By default, it's possible to pair the Magic Trackpad and use basic mouse-like functionality with the regular left-click being available via the physical click only; tapping and scrolling will not work.
[16:22] <aroman> hmm i thought utouch's backend was synaptics
[16:22] <aroman> i thought utouch was userspace actually
[16:23] <stianhj> aroman, or follow the link vibhav gave
[16:23] <aroman> i could be very wrong
[16:23] <aroman> yeah that doesn't affect me
[16:23] <aroman> because the issue is with synaptics itself
[16:23] <vibhav> aroman : By default, it's possible to pair the Magic Trackpad and use basic mouse-like functionality with the regular left-click being available via the physical click only; tapping and scrolling will not work.
[16:23] <stianhj> aroman, i'm just guessing wildy.. and I think I'm wrong
[16:23] <linuxman410> vibhav what does a trackpad have to do with a desktop
[16:23] <aasmo> how to test tftp server is configured properly
[16:23] <aasmo> using tftp
[16:23] <aroman> firstly, I don't have a magic trackpad
[16:23] <holmser> I am trying to help my buddy get some photos off his old laptop, and when I yanked the hard drive I found a connector I had never seen.  I took some pictures of it and was hoping someone could help me identify it so I can find an adapter. http://img64.imageshack.us/i/20110427081235.jpg/ http://img687.imageshack.us/i/20110427081157.jpg/ http://img38.imageshack.us/i/20110427073819.jpg/
[16:24] <aroman> and second, synaptics doesn't recognize my trackpad, so editing xorg.conf manually wouldn't be helpful
[16:24] <stianhj> holmser, it's a PATA connector
[16:25] <LAcan> linuxman410, what kinda vcard u have?
[16:25] <escott> holmser, you trying to make everyone feel old?
[16:25] <MK``> You've never seen PATA? XD wow
[16:25] <stianhj> no
[16:25] <stianhj> or wait
[16:25] <stianhj> is it?
[16:25] <holmser> I never work on laptops
[16:25] <linuxman410> LAcan a intel 845ge on board
[16:25] <MK``> PATA is an old connector format that was used in all PCs before SATA replaced it
[16:26] <IdleOne> holmser: try ##hardware your question really isn't an ubuntu related issue.
[16:26] <vibhav> aroman : I love my usb mouse
[16:26] <holmser> no its not
[16:26] <stianhj> doesn't the drive have the male connetors with PATA?
[16:26] <Pici> holmser: Its not really on-topic here, ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to ask. (but it looks like a laptop adapter for PATA attached, try pulling that off of the drive and you should see the pins).
[16:26] <holmser> sorry, I just find the people here to generally be very nice and helpful
[16:26] <MK``> it is PATA, though.
[16:26] <aroman> vibhav: ..?
[16:26] <MK``> So your question is answered
[16:26] <stianhj> ah
[16:26] <LAcan> now get out, lol
[16:27] <LAcan> and htf is that not a hardware question?
[16:27] <holmser> Its not normal pata... its got this little stair step thing going for it and its female.  hadn't tried to pull it off though.
[16:27] <holmser> thanks
[16:27] <holmser> I'll stay on topic now
[16:28] <aasmo> where can i get tftp doc for ubuntu 10
[16:28] <MK``> Hi; My GNOME Panel is not responding when I rebooted, it froze and jitters. How do I edit the config files for it to remove applets that may be causing the error?
[16:29] <LAcan> man tftp ?
[16:29] <IdleOne> LAcan: I know you were joking but things like "Now get out" are not appreciated. Please refrain from making jokes in here so we can stick to support.
[16:29] <LAcan> IdleOne, ok, but that was ##hardware if i ever saw it.
[16:29] <IdleOne> LAcan: it was and we directed him to the correct channel without making them feel bad about it.
[16:30] <LAcan> feelings... nothing more than...
[16:31] <linuxman410> what happen when i use 10.04 everything works fine when i upgrade to 10.10 all the icons on desktop disappear and it starts locking up
[16:31] <escott> MK``, (from memory) its all in .gnome2, but the applets are stored by uuid just to make things difficult. I always ended up nuking the panel and starting over when that happened
[16:31] <IdleOne> linuxman410: hmm, check in System > Administration > additional drivers. maybe it needs to install some.
[16:32] <Souperman> upgrading ubuntu never goes well
[16:32] <MK``> escott: how do I do that then?
[16:32] <linuxman410> IdleOne tried that a no go say no drivers avaiable
[16:33] <escott> MK``, if the panel starts you could remove the whole panel and then add a new one, but browse around the .gnome2 directory first
[16:33] <escott> maybe you will see and easier way
[16:33] <linuxman410> when i install 10.10 it has one resolution and will not let me change it
[16:34] <IdleOne> !fixres | linuxman410
[16:34] <IdleOne> linuxman410: see if that helps you any
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> linuxman410: run:  sudo lshw -C display    use the product line to helpfind guides
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> aasmo: do you mean tftp server?
[16:35] <aasmo> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> aasmo: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-advanced-tftp-server-in-ubuntu.html
[16:37] <aasmo> ActionParsnip: thanks https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP looks like working
[16:37] <MK``> escott: I do not see anything that manages the applets, just application shortcuts
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> aasmo: cool :)
[16:37] <escott> MK``, sorry I'm running natty so I don't have those folders anymore. I know its somewhere in there though :)
[16:38] <constl> Hi! Using 10.10 and would like to take advantage of some unallocated free space of a drive to create a second partition for my /home folder
[16:38] <constl> How can i format it ?
[16:38] <escott> constl, install gparted
[16:38] <sulphur16> Hello Everyone.
[16:38] <cpatrick08> hi
[16:39] <sulphur16> Can someone tell me if there is a way to skip the locale generation step while booting off the live cd
[16:39] <MK``> I'll search but I don't see it anywhere escott :P I'll tell you when I find it
[16:40] <escott> MK``, it may have been a single text file with lots of uuids in it, unless they moved it to gconf which is possible
[16:40] <escott> my memory of this is rather vague and old
[16:41] <Bluebill-Wolf> what ports are used on FTP again?
[16:41] <Puchaty> anyone using htc desire?
[16:41] <Bluebill-Wolf> what ports are used on FTP network type  again?
[16:42] <compdoc> 21 and 22?
[16:42] <Octodigit> hi. recent update appears to be cooking my (new) machine at 20-25 degrees centigrade above what it normally runs at
[16:42] <escott> Bluebill-Wolf, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[16:42] <compdoc> dont use ftp much
[16:43] <compdoc> mayeb 20 and 21
[16:43] <gregL> Bluebill-Wolf, Usually 22
[16:43] <compdoc> :)
[16:43] <damiano> hey guys
[16:43] <cpatrick08> @constrl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[16:43] <Octodigit> is there something widespread that people know about that's causing this for others? it would be useful to get a pointer as I'm working
[16:43] <damiano> how con i remove definitely a package on ubuntu ?
[16:43] <Octodigit> (whilst also worried my new machine will not see the day out)
[16:43] <damiano> (using aptitude)
[16:43]  * Bluebill-Wolf nods "much obliged
[16:43] <Phoenixxx3> i got a problem: i try to install v4l-dvb: error: 'I2C_CLASS_TV_DIGITAL' undeclared (first use in this function)
[16:44] <damiano> remove ALL  the files the config file, directories, ALL)
[16:44] <damiano> possible?
[16:44] <compdoc> yeah, 20 and 21
[16:44] <Phoenixxx3> dont know where the config file is?!
[16:44] <compdoc> 22 is ssh, I think
[16:44] <stianhj> Bluebill-Wolf, 22 is ssh
[16:44] <stianhj> Bluebill-Wolf, FTP is 21
[16:44] <rumpe1> damiano, apt-get purge ..  , removing user-profiles in /home, removing .deb in /var/cache/apt/archive  (e.g. via apt-get clean...)
[16:45] <damiano> is not good aptitude ?
[16:45] <Pici> rumpe1, damiano: apt-get purge will never remove anything from your user's home.
[16:45] <andai> do laptop graphics cards have a limited resolution? i.e. i connected laptop to external 1680x1050 monitor and i cant get a non-blurry image
[16:45] <rumpe1> ftp is 20 and 21 (because it's from stone age)
[16:45] <compdoc> some ppl like aptitude
[16:45] <rumpe1> Pici, ...as i said...
[16:45] <Pici> rumpe1: Ah, I misread, sorry.
[16:45] <Octodigit> I've heard power issues mentioned, is that with the current kernel in maverick?
[16:46] <damiano> so how could i remove all the files installed by apitdde ?
[16:47] <compdoc> did you install aptitude? I dont think it comes with ubuntu
[16:47] <compdoc> use apt-get
[16:47] <Pici> damiano: the same way. aptitude purge packagename.
[16:47] <damiano> ok
[16:48] <damiano> yes i found aptitude installed
[16:48] <Octodigit> nobody knows of anything which is nearly doubling temps for anyone else?
[16:49] <andai> durr
[16:50] <MK``> escott: it's in ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[16:50] <jinxx> On Ubuntu 10.04, using multiple monitors on a notebook with an Intel I915 video card, playing video while on dual monitor mode doesn't work for some reason.  Is there a fix for this?  Bug #460616 on Launchpad describes this problem very well, but doesn't seem to offer a fix for my setup.
[16:53] <or4n> How can I make OpenGL programs to strech picture over multiple screens in fullscreen mode?
[16:55] <m4k> Does this http://pastebin.com/kykYaGbx  shell script will run properly
[16:56] <cyphase> i have dual screens, with a panel on each screen that has a window list applet. before my session crashed just now, each window list only showed what was on that screen. now each window list shows everything on both screens. thoughts?
[16:57] <cyphase> in metacity and compiz
[16:57] <MIKEDDD> hi, anyone have trouble installing CURL on 10.04.1 LTS?
[16:57] <MIKEDDD> cause i am.
[16:58] <Pici> MIKEDDD: Nope, what seems to be the problem?
[16:58] <johughes> With NetworkManager, I'm trying to use a statically configured wired eth connection as well as my standard wireless internet connection. How can I prevent NM from disabling the wireless connection when I plug in the ethernet?
[16:59] <MIKEDDD> i am using sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl php5-mcrypt
[16:59] <MIKEDDD> theni  get an error that files cannot be downloaded... i try to download from my browser and they are indeed non-existant.
[16:59] <blueintegral> what command can I use to see what raid configuration exists on a machine?
[16:59] <MIKEDDD> any other method to installl?
[16:59] <Pici> MIKEDDD: Can you pastebin the exact messages that you are getting?
[17:01] <ooxi> hi my ubuntu 10.10 tells me at login that 26 packages can be updated but if i do apt-get update + apt-get upgrade it tells me everything is up-to-date. what am i doing wrong?
[17:01] <MIKEDDD>  root@PWOOD:~# sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl php5-mcrypt Reading package lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf) E: Error occurred while processing libxt6 (NewFileVer1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status W: Unable to munmap E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. root@PWOO
[17:01] <Sidewinder1> MikeDDD: Why not just use Synaptic? It's in the repos...
[17:01] <MIKEDDD> woops, i decreades my apt limit.
[17:01] <MIKEDDD> let me fixt hat first
[17:01] <Pici> MIKEDDD: Please use a pastebin, like http://paste.ubuntu.com next time.
[17:02] <Octodigit> in fact, the flipping focus/mouse/keyboard issues are back
[17:02] <Teeko> would anyone have any idea why my mouse just suddenly gets messed up? the leftclick goes to doing nothing, and the rightclick is like constantly trying to minimize windows and such
[17:02] <Octodigit> *sigh*
[17:02] <Pici> Sidewinder1: Not everyone is running Ubuntu desktop here.
[17:02] <Octodigit> Teeko: on maverick, recently updated?
[17:02] <Sidewinder1> OIC, sorry...
[17:02] <Teeko> yes octo
[17:02] <Octodigit> because that issue seems to have resurfaced for me
[17:02] <Teeko> on 10.10
[17:02] <MIKEDDD> woops, ok.. will do.
[17:02] <Teeko> just updated the other day
[17:02] <Octodigit> I have to do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:03] <Sidewinder1> Pici: He said 10.04.1, guess that's what threw me.
[17:03] <Teeko> ok lemme try that
[17:03] <Octodigit> (for now, obviously I will spend ages looking into it when I'm not at work)
[17:03] <Octodigit> Teeko: WAIT
[17:03] <Octodigit> it will nuke your X session
[17:03] <rephormat> Good morning everyone.
[17:03] <Octodigit> effectively logging you out, just so you know
[17:03] <MIKEDDD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/599862/
[17:03] <Teeko> lol
[17:04] <Teeko> damn didnt know that, oh well
[17:04] <rephormat> Is this the channel I might be able to ask a few questions about a UEC setup?
[17:04] <MIKEDDD> can only ssh in... UI would make life too easy :)
[17:04] <Pici> rephormat: #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud would probably be better places.
[17:04] <rephormat> Thanks Pici!
[17:05] <Teeko> also another question
[17:05] <helo> every time this machine boots, it stays on the purple ubuntu logo loading screen indefinitely
[17:05] <Teeko> any way to make a script to execute 6 files with a 20 sec delay between them?
[17:05] <ayecee> Teeko: sure, put "sleep 20" between the commands.
[17:05] <Teeko> had a .bat file to do it, but obviously that isnt going to work :p
[17:06] <Teeko> ok so the files are in /home/jordan/desktop/budabot
[17:06] <Teeko> so i do '/home/jordan/desktop/budabot/filename.sh'
[17:06] <Teeko> then sleep 20
[17:06] <Pici> !enter | Teeko
[17:07] <Teeko> my bad, lemme write you a book
[17:07] <Pici> MIKEDDD: It looks like you have debian repositories enabled there.
[17:07] <MIKEDDD> is there another method i should be using?'
[17:07] <Pici> MIKEDDD: Is there a reason that you have debian repositories enabled on an Ubuntu install?
[17:08] <helo> anyone know how i can diagnose my boot process never proceeding beyond the purple loading screen?
[17:08] <constl> I'm trying to create a new partition but i get the error that I already have 4 logical ones and that i should first try create an extended one. Gparted though doesn't give me that option in the allocated free space. Any tips?
[17:08] <MIKEDDD> i am running a youtube clone through apache, perhaps part of the required tools?
[17:08] <MIKEDDD> ffmpeg, flv4tool
[17:08] <helo> i can alt+f2 and log in manually, using startx to launch X
[17:09] <helo> everything seems to be loaded
[17:09] <Combatjuan> constl: The extended partition space has to be one of the 4 logical partitions.
[17:09] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: fix those dotdeb repos
[17:09] <Zundrium> Can anyone help me with my startx fatal error: no devices found?
[17:10] <ikonia> Zundrium: x should start by default, you don't need to run startx
[17:10] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit: sorry, a bit of a novice to this, how can i if they are part of the get install that is not hosting by me?
[17:10] <Teeko> anyone know how you make a program run in terminal if you use an .sh file to launch it?
[17:10] <ayecee> constl: has to be one of the four primary partitions, rather. You'll have to remove a primary partition to create an extended partition.
[17:10] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[17:10] <ayecee> Teeko: sh file.sh
[17:11] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: it's not a shared box, right?
[17:11] <Zundrium> ikonia: i know, i installed a nvidia driver with the additional drivers feature and now my lap boots to the terminal.. if i use startx i get the no devices found error
[17:11] <sec_goat> I am having trouble getting MPD to play my musics, it tells me "Problems opening the audio device" I have tried the fix here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPD and here http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Sound_Device_Permission_Problems   Still having the same problem, any ideas. also is this a MPD or a windows issue?
[17:11] <MIKEDDD> no.
[17:11] <Teeko> ayecee, that doesnt make it run in the terminal, it just makes it run hidden
[17:11] <ikonia> Zundrium: look at (pastebin) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:11] <constl> ayecee: Can't seem to be able to remove something without breaking it. One is for Dell diagnostics, one for linux, one for windows and one for Dell MediaDirect
[17:11] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit: no, it is not shared.
[17:11] <ikonia> Teeko: then it's nothing to do with the .sh file - it's the program
[17:11] <ikonia> Teeko: what are you trying to run
[17:11] <Teeko> the file runs fine
[17:12] <MK``> Man I cannot seem to fix this stupid panel issue :/
[17:12] <ikonia> Teeko: what are you trying to run ?
[17:12] <Teeko> i can run it, but i need to run 6 different ones, and its much easier than running them manually
[17:12] <Zundrium> ikonia: I'm a newbie... i guess the additional drivers feature edited the xorg.conf i know that and i changed it back (not manually) to the NV driver
[17:12] <Octodigit> if someone has enabled those repos for a deliberate reason then you need to perhaps do sudo apt-get update
[17:12] <ikonia> Teeko: what are you trying to run ?
[17:12] <Teeko> im running a chatbot for a game
[17:12] <cyphase> i have dual screens, with a panel on each screen that has a window list applet. before my session crashed just now, each window list only showed what was on that screen. now each window list shows everything on both screens. thoughts?
[17:12] <Octodigit> because those packages are there, in newer versions than your client is trying to grab
[17:12] <ikonia> Teeko: can you pastebin me the .sh file your trying to use ?
[17:12] <ikonia> Zundrium: that's the problem then
[17:13] <Teeko> lol yeah but its like 2 lines
[17:13] <ikonia> Teeko: ok, please pastebin it
[17:13] <Teeko> it calls on modules and this and that and so on and so forth
[17:13] <Zundrium> ikonia: I don't know a proper way to edit my xorg.conf, could you explain please?
[17:13] <Octodigit> *more to the point* however, I'd be asking why you need those repos there - that's a Debian repo
[17:13] <xangua> cyphase: edit window list preferences
[17:13] <Octodigit> and you're not running Debian
[17:13] <Teeko> ikonia: #!/bin/sh php -f mainloop.php config.php
[17:13] <Teeko> no need to pastebin, its only those 2 lines
[17:13] <Octodigit> if you think they have been added by mistake find them in /etc/apt/sources.list and comment them out
[17:13] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit: it is part of the  sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl php5-mcrypt
[17:14] <MIKEDDD> ah, ok.
[17:14] <MIKEDDD> let me see
[17:14] <ikonia> Teeko how do you launch it outside the script ?
[17:14] <Octodigit> then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/squeeze/php5/binary-amd64/php5-curl_5.3.5-0.dotdeb.1_amd64.deb
[17:14] <Teeko> drag it into a terminal window
[17:14] <Octodigit> no, pasted the wrong thing
[17:14] <Teeko> and then just hit enter
[17:14] <pindropper> When i launch an application using the terminal, by typing say gedit ~/.bashrc, my terminal doesnt let me type anything further until the application (gedit in this case) is closed. if i force exit the hung prompt by ctrl+z, the launched application greys out and becomes unresponsive. is this normal? and if so, do i have to keep opening new terminals to do other things while having launched...
[17:14] <cyphase> xangua, dual screens, not virtual desktops
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> !debian | Octodigit
[17:14] <pindropper> ...an app from another?
[17:14] <Octodigit> then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl php5-mcrypt
[17:14] <ikonia> Teeko: would you run a test for me ?
[17:14] <Teeko> im very new to ubuntu, its the way i found that works, so i just use it :P
[17:15] <Teeko> yeah i can
[17:15] <Octodigit> ActionParsnip: is there any particular reason why you just got the bot to tell me what I just said?
[17:15] <ikonia> Teeko: open a terminal , and type the following "php -f mainloop.php config.php"
[17:15] <Octodigit> heh
[17:15] <xangua> !panels
[17:15] <xangua> cyphase: you could try to restore default values
[17:15] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: the second one not the first
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Octodigit: so that you have the official bot telling you why its not advised or supported
[17:16] <Teeko> want me to do the cd /home/jordan/desktop/budabot first?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Octodigit: I suggest you find a ppa for Ubuntu, there is significantly less chance you will break your packages
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Octodigit
[17:16] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit:  hm... trying now...  doesnt look like it is working properly.
[17:16] <ikonia> Teeko: if that's the working directory, yes please
[17:16] <Teeko> ok
[17:16] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: then once you're installed you need to be looking into why you were trying to get them from elsewhere - were you after more recent packages? if so you need to find a ppa
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Octodigit: is that particular enough for you?
[17:16] <elijah> What is the command for clearing out my apt-get stuff again?
[17:16] <Octodigit> was it just a mistake? if so you should just remove the lines you commented out and forget about it
[17:17] <MIKEDDD> Octodigitt: I just want CURL so a plugin works, doesn't have to be the latest version.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> elijah: sudo apt-get clean
[17:17] <Octodigit> ActionParsnip: it's particularly clear you're under a misapprehension on what's going on in that particular dialogue ;)
[17:17] <elijah> ActionParsnip: that's it! Thanks!
[17:17] <Jemt> Hi guys. I installed Ubuntu to a USB stick. Will I be able to clone it using 'dd' ? The target stick may be several MB smaller than the source stick, but the source stick defines partitions which easily fits on the target stick.
[17:18] <Octodigit> ActionParsnip: again. I have *no* *idea* why you're telling me I shouldn't be using Debian repositories. I don't, I'm not, and I've just advised someone else not to.
[17:18] <benedikt> what is the name of the binary for the volume manager in unity?
[17:18] <ikonia> jnovek_: don't use dd
[17:18] <ikonia> oops
[17:18] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/599868/
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Octodigit: what release of ubuntu are you using?
[17:18] <ikonia> Jemt: don't use dd there is no need for block level copies
[17:18] <elijah> Does find search inside trash if you select / as the path?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> Octodigit: ahh i see, what release is being used
[17:18] <Pici> elijah: It should look everywhere your user has access to
[17:18] <MIKEDDD> can someone recommend a repo that doesnt have debian installs?
[17:18] <benedikt> elijah: yes, but that is overkill
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> elijah: yes, / will search everyting
[17:18] <Teeko> ikonia: if i do it that way the program runs in terminal fine.
[17:19] <elijah> ActionParsnip: k, thanks,
[17:19] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: wot's the medibuntu for?
[17:19] <dd214> Is 11.0 releasing by 0 GMT?
[17:19] <xangua> !ppa | MIKEDDD
[17:19] <dd214> rather.. 11.04
[17:19] <Pici> dd214: Natty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time on the 28th when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more questions join #ubuntu+1
[17:19] <Jemt> ikonia: Then how do I copy the MBR ?
[17:19] <ikonia> Teeko: ok, now do "cd /" - then do the same command again, but use absolute paths to the files
[17:19] <xangua> dd214: between 00 and 24 hours ;)
[17:19] <ikonia> !grub2 > Jemt
[17:19] <ikonia> Jemt: just re-apply it
[17:19] <Teeko> ikonia: think i may have it.
[17:19] <MIKEDDD> octodigit: ludic lynx
[17:19] <Pici> MIKEDDD: The regular Ubuntu ones, you don't neven need to use a PPA.
[17:19] <dd214> Pici thanks, going there now.
[17:20] <Jemt> Thanks, ikonia
[17:20] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: sorry, you missed the part where I said "no not that, pasted the wrong thing" and gave the correct part
[17:20] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: terribly sorry about that :)
[17:20] <benedikt> what is the name of the binary for the volume manager in unity?
[17:20] <Xyzzin> Hey. How can i upgrade from ubuntu 7.04 feisty to the newest version?
[17:21] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: <Octodigit>: then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install curl libcurl3 libcurl3-dev php5-curl php5-mcrypt
[17:21] <benedikt> Xyzzin: upgrade to 7.10 then 8.04 then 10.04 (lts upgrade) and then 10.10
[17:21] <MIKEDDD> Octodigit: was eager to try... let me try that one now.
[17:21] <xangua> Xyzzin: download ubuntu from ubuntu.com & fresh install
[17:21] <benedikt> Xyzzin: but yeah, fresh instal.
[17:21] <xangua> benedikt: that's not posibble
[17:21] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: it won't have done any harm to do the other command :)
[17:21] <benedikt> xangua: yes it is.
[17:22] <pindropper> When i launch an application using the terminal, by typing say gedit ~/.bashrc, my terminal doesnt let me type anything further until the application (gedit in this case) is closed. if i force exit the hung prompt by ctrl+z, the launched application greys out and becomes unresponsive. is this normal? and if so, do i have to keep opening new terminals to do other things while having launched...
[17:22] <benedikt> might be a little tricky to find a mirror for 7.10
[17:22] <pindropper> ...an app from another?
[17:22] <Octodigit> it looks like you might have to revisit your sources list before it works from that output, by the way
[17:22] <Octodigit> but we'll see
[17:22] <Xyzzin> fresh install? no other way?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> pindropper: add an ampersand to the command
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> pindropper: e.g.    gedit ~/.bashrc &           and it will background the process
[17:22] <MIKEDDD> looks like it installed succefully
[17:22] <biffbaxter> I would not try 7.04 to current...to many changes....save your data you want and do a fresh install...it will take less time and you will be happier
[17:23] <MIKEDDD> rebooting to test now.
[17:23] <pindropper> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[17:23] <Xyzzin> thansk :)
[17:23] <Xyzzin> i will try that
[17:23] <Xyzzin> just tho upgrade would be faster
[17:23] <Teeko> ok, i got it to launch in the terminal. but after that i have sleep 20 then ./dreadlochai.sh
[17:23] <benedikt> pindropper: C-z stops the applicatino (you can resume with `fg`). If you append a `&` after the command the process gets backgrounded. But the terminal process will be a parent process and if you kill/close it, gedit will also close.
[17:23] <ace> hi
[17:23] <Teeko> and it doesnt do anything. it just executes first command, and then nothing.
[17:23] <ikonia> Teeko: that wasn't in the script you sent me
[17:23] <Teeko> its the second file that i wanna run
[17:24] <xangua> (11:23:17) Xyzzin: just tho upgrade would be faster - no, it would not
[17:24] <cpatrick08> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty
[17:24] <ikonia> Teeko: probably because the bot never exits to move to the next command, you should launch the bot using & after the command so it backgrounds it and moves on to the next command
[17:24] <Teeko> im running 6 programs from this script, first named chatbot.sh, second is dreadlochai.sh
[17:24] <ace> quick question. ubuntu 11 is out soon. should i upgrade from 10 to 11 now in update manager or wait until its offical?
[17:24] <pindropper> benedikt: ok. but if i use the & i could launch multiple apps. but if i close the terminal all the apps opened will be shut down too?
[17:24] <Teeko> oh ok that makes sense ikonia, does it still keep them open in the terminal then?
[17:25] <dd214> Anyone use a CAC?  Having trouble getting the device to be recognized.
[17:25] <ikonia> Teeko:  it won't close it as your running it from the termnial
[17:25] <Octodigit> awesome, average temperature change since my last update is +25 degrees c
[17:25] <compdoc> ace, if you upgrade now, it'll just be beta, and you'll have to do it again. beta has some bugs, Im sure
[17:25] <cyphase> figures.. a restart did fix the problem :P.
[17:25] <MIKEDDD> OCtodigit & Pici:  thanks both for your help.... worked perfectly!
[17:25] <benedikt> pindropper: correct :)
[17:26] <sipior> Octodigit: what's the long-term cpu load?
[17:26] <Octodigit> MIKEDDD: you're most welcome
[17:26] <Teeko> putting a & after it doesnt do anything
[17:26] <ace> yeah but the upgrade wont take so long if I do it now, then later in a few days right?
[17:26] <pindropper> benedikt: thanks.
[17:26]  * Octodigit reboots to different kernel
[17:26] <benedikt> so, anyone have any idea what the binary for the unity volume manager is?
[17:27] <ace> exit
[17:29] <Cody3290> Hello, everyone
[17:29] <Cody3290> I think I seriously messed up my HDD. =/
[17:29] <compdoc> I hate whn that happens
[17:30] <Cody3290> Whenever I start up, it loads up grub repair or something like that, and it's like terminal, but nothing I type seems to work.
[17:30] <Cody3290> When I try to boot from LiveCD, it tells me No Filesystem Found or something of that sort and gives me BusyBox
[17:30] <Cody3290> Is there any way I can recover data from this HDD?
[17:30] <Cody3290> And then install something over it again so I can use it?
[17:31] <Cody3290> Any help is very appreciated
[17:31] <rumpe1> Cody3290, so you can't book your liveCD?
[17:31] <rumpe1> erm... boot not book
[17:31] <Cody3290> Nope. It loads up BusyBox or something like that
[17:32] <rumpe1> Cody3290, the liveCD has its own filesystem...  perhaps it's broken
[17:32] <rumpe1> Cody3290, try with another live-medium (preferable usb-stick)
[17:32] <Cody3290> I used the same disc to install on the HDD I'm on now so i could get online with you guys
[17:33] <Cody3290> How big does the usb stick have to be?
[17:33] <rumpe1> Cody3290, when was this? and what exactly is the problem?
[17:33] <otoman> Do you compare MD5 sums?
[17:33] <ratSalad> how i run a .c file?
[17:33] <rumpe1> Cody3290, >3GB (iirc)
[17:33] <rumpe1> ratSalad, you have compile it first (with gcc)
[17:33] <hypetech> ratSalad: you compile it with gcc first, then you run the output
[17:33] <sec_goat> is there a "best practice" for where to put new folders for install, services etc? do I just create a new dir on /?
[17:34] <IdleOne> Cody3290: 2gb for the USB is recommended
[17:34] <hypetech> sec_goat: what are you installing?
[17:34] <daniel_> is there a way to convert mp4 to .avi?
[17:34] <Cody3290> I think i have a spare USB. Is there a way to make this USB from a CD I already have?
[17:35] <otoman> daniel, WinFF
[17:35] <ratSalad> rumpe: gcc -o file.c?
[17:35] <hypetech> ratSalad: yes
[17:35] <elijah> What is the command to list all my drives mounted with drive letters?
[17:35] <rumpe1> Cody3290, if the CD has this error, you perhaps get the same error on the usb
[17:35] <sec_goat> hypetech: I want to run a minecraft server, so it's less of an install and more of a folder filled with files
[17:36] <bc81> daniel_: in the Ubuntu Software Manager, look for Arista Transcoder.  it's very simple to use.  Avidemux is also good
[17:36] <ratSalad> it told me gcc: no input files
[17:36] <rumpe1> ratSalad, gcc -o file.o file.c
[17:36] <hypetech> sec_goat: you can just put it in your home folder
[17:36] <daniel_> bc81, wicth would u prefer and will it distort the picture?
[17:37] <luceferushko> аё
[17:37] <luceferushko> people hi
[17:37] <Karti> Hi all, quick question - If I have the 11.04 daily build from 7 days ago. If I just update can I just assume that it will the latest version once its released tomorrow?
[17:37] <hypetech> Karti: yep
[17:37] <otoman> Karti: Quick answer-yes;)
[17:38] <Cody3290> rumpe1: So is there nothing i cna do to fix my HDD?
[17:38] <arpan> elijah: i guess you can try "df -h" without the quotes
[17:38] <bc81> daniel_: arista for it's simplicity, but if you need more control over the output, i recommend Avidemux.
[17:38] <rumpe1> Cody3290, you only mentioned filesystem-error on your liveCD
[17:38] <Cody3290> rumpe1: The same basic thing happens when I boot from HDD
[17:38] <maniak> Testing
[17:38] <luceferushko> i'm from russia
[17:38] <rumpe1> Cody3290, and if you can't boot your system because of this you have to use some other medium ... like a liveCD
[17:38] <ratSalad> rumpe1: and how i test it?
[17:39] <elijah> arpan: that is closer, but it doesn't show drive letters like e, c etc. Wine needs a drive letter and I don't know what it is
[17:39] <daniel_> bc81, ok and the main reason i am doing this is becasue i notice mp4 files are usually bigger then avi am i righ to think that if i convert it to avi it will take up less space?
[17:39] <Cody3290> rumpe1: And neither HDD nor LiveCD works. Is there anything else I can do?
[17:39] <rumpe1> ratSalad, mark the compiled file as executable, execute it
[17:39] <elijah> do all mounted drives get drive letters?
[17:39] <rumpe1> Cody3290, try other boot-media
[17:39] <Karti> hypetech, otoman, Thnak you
[17:39] <daniel_> bc81, and thanks in advance :D
[17:39] <arpan> elijah: nope, in linux drives are mounted in a folder under /media
[17:40] <HoiKeN> Anyone had any luck running TrackMania with Wine?
[17:40] <arpan> elijah: so they don't get drive letters like c:, d: etc.
[17:40] <Cody3290> rumpe1: Ok, that brings me to a question I asked before. Can I make  USB of ubuntu from ubuntu itself? I know you can make one with usb_creator.exe but I dont have wine or XP and my internet is very slow at the moment
[17:40] <luceferushko> and how people can communicate here?
[17:40] <cqixk_work> Hi! I have the problem, that Ubuntu 10.04 Server installation freezes while installing the software. It's on a Intel D510MO with latest Bios. I've tested it like 10 times. Freezes at any random software.
[17:41] <hypetech> cqixk_work: did you run the disc verification before trying to install?  sounds like you have a bad CD
[17:41] <luceferushko> бред бля
[17:41] <cqixk_work> I've tested it once, but that's months ago. Will try again hypetech
[17:41] <xangua> !ru | luceferushko
[17:41] <bc81> daniel_: if you transcode them into avi, they may take up less space depending on the settings you use but you will sacrifice the quality of the video
[17:42] <rumpe1> Cody3290, for filesystem checks you don't need a big installer like for ubuntu... just filesystem-check/repair tools
[17:42] <luceferushko> тупая херня
[17:43] <jnlsnl_> Im messing around with an ubuntu server for the first time :-) How can i find out what port is open when connecting to mysql ?
[17:44] <Cody3290> rumpe1: How would I get that?
[17:44] <elijah> arpan: Okay, thanks, kind of odd how Wine needs that to work then, turns our Wine thinks my system volume is H: so I guess they do get them in a quasi kind of way
[17:44] <rumpe1> Cody3290, http://www.ultrabootcd.com/howto.htm   e.g. is just 47MB big
[17:45] <arpan> elijah: i hardly used wine so don't know much about it.
[17:45] <elijah> arpan: k
[17:46] <bc81> i have a question.  every time i wake up this laptop, there is about 15-20 lines of text (i'm assuming errors) that quickly in the upper left corner of the screen.  i searched all the log files for a keyword but found nothing.  are these errors or nothing to worry about?
[17:46] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: mysql server runs on port 3306 by default
[17:48] <Cody3290> rumpe1: THank you
[17:48] <ekim1> hi
[17:48] <jnlsnl_> hypetech if i do "netstat -an | grep -i mysql" i get the following: "STREAM     LISTENING     6338" how can i change that to default?
[17:50] <ekim1> I have 10.04 running.  Is it necessary or enough improvement to upgrade to 11.04 when released?
[17:50] <damiano> hey guys someone know how to set de DEBUG On lighttpd ?
[17:50] <ledmar_> jlg
[17:51] <sec_goat> hypetech: any reason to keep the Media, Public or Templates folder in my home directory? or any of them for that matter?
[17:51] <boldgold> any voip tools out there?
[17:51] <shane4ubuntu> where does google chrome hide my flash video from youtube?
[17:52] <sec_goat> shane4ubuntu: /temp ?
[17:52] <cqixk_work> hypetech: Integrity test was positive. That can't be the problem with my D510MO
[17:52] <shane4ubuntu> sec_goat: nope, not in /tmp
[17:53] <sec_goat> shane4ubuntu: from what I recall and it has been a while it wa sin that folder as long as you had the browser and the page with the video open, when you left or closed it would trash the file
[17:53] <karolis> hello. I need some quick help: My ssh session just crashed. I was working with one application and I can still see that application in "top". Is there a way to recover it?
[17:53] <hypetech> cqixk_work: what's the motherboard have to do with it?
[17:53] <shane4ubuntu> sec_goat: that is where FF keeps them, however Chrome works different
[17:53] <maniak> whois hypetech
[17:53] <sec_goat> shane4ubuntu: my bad, sorry I will be of no help then
[17:53] <cqixk_work> hypetech: There seem to be some troubles with newer atoms.
[17:53] <shane4ubuntu> sec_goat: no prob, thanks anyway
[17:54] <Darael> shane4ubuntu: .cache/chrome?  In multiple pieces, IIRC.  Certainly I have quite a large number if bits in ~/.cache/chromium/{Media\ ,}Cache
[17:54] <sec_goat> ShaneBhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451839
[17:54] <sec_goat> shane4ubuntu:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451839
[17:54] <shane4ubuntu> Darael: right, that is what I thought it was before, but, seems mine is empty, I'm using chrome, not chromium though, just a minor difference
[17:54] <Cody3290> boldgold: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[17:55] <shane4ubuntu> thanks sec_goat, don't know why that didn't come up with my googling. :)
[17:55] <sec_goat> shane4ubuntu:  problem is thats chromium again not chrome, sorry
[17:56] <werever> hi guys, I am lost installing ubuntu
[17:56] <werever> I download latest 10.10 iso
[17:56] <shane4ubuntu> sec_goat: no, that is ok, they have chrome info on that page too.
[17:56] <Darael> shane4ubuntu: Yeah, I was guessing based on chromium.  But as the link says, I guessed a touch wrong - ~/.cache/google-chrome/
[17:56] <werever> installed as main OS, using ENTIRE DISK
[17:56] <werever> and ubuntu doesnt start
[17:56] <werever> grub doesnt show
[17:56] <werever> I have a blank screen only
[17:56] <Logiar> I'm trying to use this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot to make an install but the machine I'm trying to install on complains that there is no boot media in the boot device when i attempt to use the network as the boot device.
[17:56] <werever> any ideas
[17:57] <shane4ubuntu> Darael: ahh, I kept looking in .cach/google-chrome/Cache  it is in .cache/google-chrome/Defualt/Cache!
[17:57] <shane4ubuntu> Darael: thanks
[17:57] <Darael> werever: If you want the latest version, I would suggest trying again tomorrow with Natty, which is released then.  Note that this is incidental to your problem.
[17:57] <Darael> shane4ubuntu: Glad you found it!
[17:58] <werever> I tried with 10.10, and 11.04 beta2, with same results, ubuntu doesnt start, now I took this problem personal and I dont wanna stop until get ubuntu working well =P
[17:58] <Darael> werever: Is there anything on the screen at all?  A blinking cursor, even?
[17:58] <Meliorator> hi all, can anyone point me to a guide/doc/tut to do a remote install of ubuntu?
[17:58] <werever> yes
[17:58] <werever> blinkin cursos only
[17:58] <werever> blingking cursor
[17:59] <Babalau> heya ppl
[17:59] <cqixk_work> How can I get my Atom D510 to allow the installation of Ubuntu 10.04 Server - It hangs when setting up the software (not the base system)
[17:59] <Babalau> Does something differ from the Ubuntu 11 Beta 2 to Ubuntu 11 live ?
[17:59] <Darael> werever: Right.  That implies you're getting past GRUB, which is a start.  Can you try to boot and hold shift immediately after your BIOS splash disappears for me?  That should bring up the grub menu.  At this point, I would edit out the "quiet splash" bit of the default option and see what you get.  It might give us a hint as to what's going on.
[18:00] <ekim1> I have 10.04 running.  Is it necessary or enough improvement to upgrade to 11.04 when released?
[18:00] <boldgold> cqixk_work, i heard that using a usb drive to install it works
[18:00] <top_ramen> thank patrick norton
[18:00] <Cody3290> Is it possible for to use an SD card instead of a USB stick?
[18:00] <xangua> ekim1: upgrade to 10.10 first
[18:00] <cqixk_work> boldgold: It's on a USB CD-Rom
[18:00] <Cody3290> When making a liveCD
[18:00] <boldgold> ekim1, nope, i'm still running 10.04
[18:00] <Babalau> changing to ubuntu 11 was the biggest mistake i made since i started using linux years ago
[18:00] <boldgold> cqixk_work, i'm not sure... i just read it reading a review on newegg
[18:00] <Darael> Babalau: Apart from the fact that 11.04 is a release date, not a version number :) there will indeed be differences between the beta and the release.  However, they'll appear in the update manager anyway, so you could install the beta and it'll update transparently come release.
[18:01] <ekim1> xangua:  I get that but is it worth while to do the upgrading as in significant improvements?
[18:01] <Cody3290> Babalau: Are you saying using linux in the first place was a mistake in and of itself?
[18:01] <Babalau> no
[18:01] <cqixk_work> boldgold: Ok, thank you. Maybe I give it a try with a USB stick
[18:01] <Babalau> upgrading to The latest ubuntu
[18:01] <Cody3290> Babalau: Good.   I have an account and connected.. am I suppose to see an additional storage device?
[18:02] <Cody3290> Juxtaposed to a "xD" implying it was a joke
[18:02] <Babalau> ekim1: they are different, choose the one u like, just dont get unity
[18:02] <boldgold> we don't like you lawless young men around here in #ubuntu
[18:03] <Darael> Cody3290: Can we keep this to support?  For chat, take it to -offtopic.  For arguments, take it to PM.
[18:03] <caravel> ekim1: each user has his preference, you probably won't get an answer for this question :)
[18:03] <Cody3290> Sprry.
[18:03] <Cody3290> Sorry.
[18:03] <hypetech> I like unity now that I'm used to the keyboard shortcuts :p
[18:03] <boldgold> i haven't even tried it yet
[18:03] <Babalau> Unity it's not verry customizable
[18:03] <boldgold> is it any good?
[18:03] <xangua> dd214: sync the music you buy, sync evolution contacts, sync files
[18:03] <escott> dd214, its a service akin to dropbox
[18:03] <Darael> !best | ekim (this applies to better, too)
[18:03] <werever> Darael: I restarting now to try shift key on boot, will come back in a moment, thanks!
[18:04] <ekim1> okay, just wondered program usage wise if one was better.
[18:04] <Babalau> my opinion is that ubuntu will fail with the unity release tomorow... alot of users will move to debian/fedora/etc...
[18:04] <ekim1> sorry!
[18:04] <boldgold> 11.04 is co ming out tomorrow
[18:04] <boldgold> that's cool
[18:04] <Darael> ekim1: You can run programs from any one DE from any of the others anyway, so in that respect they're as good as each other.
[18:04] <hypetech> Babalau: don't know why you would pick a different distro when you can just run a different environment on ubuntu
[18:05] <Babalau> hypetech: cause they gaved up on Gnome
[18:05] <barbae_inpexae> Has anyone gotten s3fs (FUSE over AWS S3) working to their satisfaction? Are there any other decent solutions to mounting S3 drives?
[18:05] <Darael> Babalau: You realise that the GNOME2 desktop will be available from GDM by default, right?  The entry's called "Ubuntu Classic".
[18:05] <caravel> I have an issue with a 10.10 host: the person in charge has messed up a little bit with user properties. One of the users currently has bash pointing to a non-existent folder (was a chroot). I tried to change this in System Settings but it has no effect. Is it because this is one of the "root users" ? I could correct the path for other users
[18:05] <Babalau> hypetech: Darael the normal user who doesen't know that will leave ubuntu/linux cause it will have a bade taste using Unity (just my 2 cents)
[18:06] <Abhijit> hi
[18:06] <Aiya> Im so excited for the 11.04.Can wait.Im from Singapore.The time here is 1.00am.I cant sleep yet....
[18:06] <boldgold> what the hell is libreoffice?
[18:06] <xangua> !ot
[18:06] <boldgold> !libreoffice
[18:06] <Darael> boldgold: openoffice fork, since sun got sold to oracle.
[18:06] <hypetech> Babalau: it's no harder to use than gnome3 shell, so the only other option would be to use all KDE
[18:06] <josephseraos> Hi there. Good afternoon. I have a friend who have a problem with his Ubuntu. He can hear sound only with headset, but nothing out from speakers
[18:06] <boldgold> oic cool
[18:07] <boldgold> libre office lol funny name
[18:07] <Babalau> :/
[18:07] <boldgold> actually lol
[18:07] <needtoprint> can anyone point me towards a live cd that might work with a dell printer? im having trouble getting it to work in window$.
[18:07] <Cody3290> Can I use an SD card instead of a USB stick to make a bootable LiveCD?
[18:07] <sec_goat> escott: Just wanted to say thanks again for all your help yesterday, looks like the x tunnel is working great for what I need!
[18:07] <Abhijit> Cody3290, yes
[18:08] <escott> sec_goat, someone pointed me to a program xfvp i think it was which would allow session support for X
[18:08] <Flynn> Hello
[18:08] <damiano> someone use lighttpd + php-fpm ?
[18:09] <needtoprint> am i asking in the wrong channel?
[18:09] <sec_goat> escott: I have this thing called x2go and it works great on every computer except this one
[18:09] <escott> sec_goat, sorry xpra
[18:09] <karan> hello
[18:09] <dd214> escott got it.. working, and have an UbuntuOne directory that is showing up under Places
[18:09] <needtoprint> anyone?
[18:09] <sec_goat> escott: I will check out xpra as well, thanks again!
[18:09] <escott> dd214, so if you are familiar with dropbox thats akin to a dropbox folder
[18:09] <Abhijit> !patience | needtoprint
[18:10] <needtoprint> right, sorry
[18:10] <hypetech> needtoprint: do you mean just so you can print from a live cd?
[18:10] <Flynn> I'm trying to file share between Ubuntu netbook 10.10 and windows xp on another machine
[18:11] <needtoprint> hypetech yes
[18:11] <hypetech> needtoprint: I imagine ubuntu would be able to print fine, it has pretty excellent printer support, so the ubuntu livecd would probably work
[18:11] <escott> needtoprint, there aren't any "printer specific" livecds that I am aware of, check if cups supports your printer model
[18:11] <dd214> escott know if this supports streaming music, this will be a great place to host O&A shows
[18:11] <Logiar> tiny progress
[18:11] <Logiar> it now says no boot filename recieved
[18:11] <sam43> whoa
[18:11] <needtoprint> hypetech: cups, right thank you
[18:12] <jnlsnl_> If i do: "netstat -antp" i get  "tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:3306          <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN" ... so is port 3306 already in use? I need it for mysql !
[18:12] <escott> dd214, there is music syncing but it is oriented at single users not sure if you could host off of it. don't use it myself maybe xangua knows
[18:12] <Flynn> There's no file sharing option when I right click a folder in file manager.
[18:12] <llutz> jnlsnl_: sudo lsof -i :3306           to find whats listening there
[18:12] <hypetech> jnlsnl_: that is mysql already listening lol
[18:12] <Abhijit> !samba | Flynn
[18:13] <werever> Im back, Shift key is not working, screen remains with a blinking cursor only, ubuntu cant start, I made a fresh install of 10.10 32 bits using entire disk, no windows, no partitions, Im on live cd now
[18:13] <jnlsnl_> then i get: mysqld  621 mysql   10u  IPv4   6337      0t0  TCP localhost:mysql (LISTEN)
[18:13] <dd214> escott just for me.. the idea would be to upload it from my home machine and then listen to it from work, both machines are Ubuntu and work is c-blocking my traffic to XM
[18:13] <jnlsnl_> 6337 ??!
[18:13] <werever> any ideas guys?
[18:13] <llutz> jnlsnl_: mysql already uses that port
[18:13] <escott> dd214, that should work (unless work blocks ubuntuone)
[18:14] <jnlsnl_> okay =)
[18:14] <jnlsnl_> thanks !
[18:14] <jnlsnl_> must be another problem im looking for then
[18:14] <dd214> escott nope.. at work and on there now, else, it's time to setup a VPN tunnel to home.
[18:14] <alan__> hi, all. I need to automate the installation of an ubuntu 10.10, is preseed the best toool to do this?
[18:15] <Flynn> Samba error:  mount.cifs: permission denied: no match for /home/user/smb4k/DELLXP/SharedDocs found in /etc/fstab
[18:15] <escott> dd214, if ubuntu one doesn't work for you set up an ssh server on your home computer that would be easier
[18:15] <alan__> strangely, the latest preseed documentation I've found is from ubuntu 8.04
[18:15] <Babalau> anyone know if zypper is faster than apt ?
[18:15] <Babalau> Flynn: use admin permissions
[18:16] <escott> Flynn, only root can mount items not listed in fstab so you have to use admin options to mount your cifs folder
[18:16] <Flynn> I only have one user so I assume I am.
[18:16] <yssa> hello, Could anyone tell me what time is Ubuntu approx. released?
[18:16] <bethany> how do i mount a drive as read only?
[18:16] <Babalau> Flynn: for security reason although u are admin u need to be Root
[18:16] <llutz> bethany: -o ro
[18:17] <escott> Flynn, you can sudo but you are NOT root, you momentarily take admin priviliges with sudo/gksudo as needed
[18:17] <campos> coucou
[18:17] <bethany> ty
[18:17] <Al_nz1> is there a command to convert a partition from FAT to EXT4 - keeping data intact?
[18:17] <llutz> Al_nz1: no
[18:17] <werever> hello, any ideas how get ubuntu working? on a fresh install grub is not starting, and ubuntu doesnt start, I have only a blinking cursor on my screen and shift key is not working
[18:17] <escott> Al_nz1, no
[18:17] <Babalau> Flynn:
[18:17] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, is it the only os on your system?
[18:17] <werever> yes
[18:18] <Al_nz1> ok - thanks
[18:18] <Laggg> how can i DL the java jdk?
[18:18] <escott> werever, i remember you were online yesterday can we get a quick recap
[18:18] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, did you use the default settings or did you set custom partitions?
[18:18] <Laggg> is there like a new repo or something?
[18:19] <escott> Laggg, a number of jdks are available browse through synaptic
[18:19] <werever> ye sescott, yesterday I used two OS, windows and ubuntu, I tried now, delete all and use my entire disk toubuntu, and the problem persists
[18:19] <jasonmchristos> how do i get the liveCD to load to ram instad of using CD?
[18:19] <Babalau> Flynn: press ALT+F2 and type: gksudo nautilus
[18:19] <hypetech> Laggg: apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[18:19] <jasonmchristos> please help ActionParsnip
[18:19] <escott> werever, the grub reinstall never worked?
[18:19] <werever> bl4ckcomb default settings
[18:19] <Flynn> how do I take admin priviliges
[18:19] <Babalau> Flynn: press ALT+F2 and type: gksudo nautilus
[18:19] <Babalau> type in the password
[18:19] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, did you check your cd against a checksum for possible download/writing errors?
[18:20] <Babalau> and you are root in ur explorer
[18:20] <werever> bl4ckcomb I didnt check the iso, how can I check it on ubuntu, is there any app on  ubuntu software center?
[18:20] <mbeierl> jasonmchristos: it will naturally cache itself to ram as it is used.  why do you want it in ram?
[18:20] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, I think there was an option when you boot the cd
[18:21] <jasonmchristos> mbeierl, optical drive is slow
[18:21] <escott> Babalau, Flynn I'd not recommend doing that. its too easy to confuse the root nautilus window with the non-root nautilus window leaving you with a root nautilus window which would allow you to do lots of damage to the system by accident
[18:21] <werever> escott I will try grub reinstall again, yesterday didnt work
[18:21] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, it can check itself iirc
[18:21] <jasonmchristos> isnt there a toram=yes option?
[18:21] <arand> jasonmchristos: Indeed
[18:21] <escott> werever, did you get any error messages with the grub-install?
[18:21] <Logiar> could anyone help me? I'm trying to do a netinstall using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot the machine im doing the install on complains that it's not recieving a boot filename and the tftpd log is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/599888/
[18:21] <Babalau> rebuild ur grub
[18:22] <werever> escott no problems on install, grub notices on installation process were all ok
[18:22] <escott> Babalau, he's done that multiple times, something is weird with his hardware
[18:22] <bl4ckcomb`> werever, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[18:22] <arand> jasonmchristos: I'm not sure if capitalisation is needed as in TORAM=yes
[18:22] <escott> werever, can you tell use the exact model of your system
[18:22] <werever> thanks bl4ckcomb
[18:22] <mbeierl> jasonmchristos: usb instead, perhaps?
[18:22] <jasonmchristos> arand, where do i issue the option?
[18:22] <werever> vostro 1520 dell
[18:22] <Babalau> escott: sry i didn't pay attention
[18:22] <Babalau> :)
[18:22] <Babalau> what hardware ?
[18:22] <jasonmchristos> mbeierl, usb isnt much faster
[18:22] <escott> Babalau, its ok i remember him from yesterday
[18:23] <arand> jasonmchristos: Press F6 and choose advanced, and add it manually
[18:23] <dd214> what is the command I can use in the terminal that does "text-to-speech"?
[18:23] <escott> dd214, install festival
[18:23] <jasonmchristos> arand, to the end of the commands already there?
[18:23] <arand> jasonmchristos: Yes
[18:23] <jasonmchristos> ok going to try
[18:23] <mbeierl> jasonmchristos: you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583206
[18:24] <dd214> escott  ... I remember, it's espeak
[18:24] <escott> werever, this is a retail machine and not a corporate machine? TPM could be inhibiting grub
[18:24] <werever> bl4ckcomb, in meantime I am reading link about integrity check, thanks
[18:25] <Flynn> nautilus cannot handle "network" locations
[18:25] <werever> escott retail machine, I think I have not special restrictions, what is TPM?
[18:25] <Cody3290> My DVD drive can go 24x but it never goes above 10x, why?
[18:25] <Flynn> nautilus cannot handle "network" locations
[18:25] <Babalau> anyone using IRSSI ? -> how do i hide /join /leave /quit messages from the screen ?
[18:25] <escott> werever, hardware restrictions on what can be installed, usually enabled by corporate users, shouldn't be enabled in a retail system
[18:25] <werever> escott ok
[18:26] <pindropper> i am trying to enable running a terminal using a shortcut combo. what command brings up a terminal?
[18:26] <jasonmchristos> mbeierl, ty
[18:26] <red2kic> !quietirssi | Babalau
[18:26] <escott> werever, are you in the live cd now?
[18:26] <werever> escott yes
[18:27] <Babalau> ubottu: ty
[18:27] <Babalau> lol
[18:27] <Babalau> ty red2kic
[18:27] <MarconM> !ping
[18:27] <jankoprowski> Hi.
[18:28] <rooks> when i do in bash script → series | of | commands > $OUT_FILE   it tells me the file in $OUT_FILE does not exist, while i do the same line in commandline it works ok, any idea wtf?
[18:28] <red2kic> Babalau: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a human ;-)
[18:28] <sipior> heh, new factoid? haven't seen that one before.
[18:28] <jankoprowski> I'm currently use encrypted home directories but I can't export such directory as NFS
[18:28] <Babalau> =))
[18:28] <jankoprowski> How turn off decrypting from command line?
[18:28] <Babalau> jankoprowski: decrypting ?
[18:28] <Cody3290> Ok the UltraBootCD is done downloadin and burning, i will try to fix my HDD
[18:28] <cdoktor19> hi all
[18:29] <Cody3290> Will be on later whether it works or not :)
[18:29] <Flynn> Now its saying my sharing service is not installed
[18:30] <Flynn> Its things like this that make me long for good ol' infected Windows
[18:31] <Logiar> Meh
[18:31] <Logiar> time to give up for now :(
[18:31] <Babalau> Flynn: what's the problem ?
[18:32] <escott> Flynn, did you logout after installing samba