[00:14] <sarnold> NickyP: the 'equivs' package may help you there
[00:15] <NickyP> equivs ?
[00:15] <sarnold> NickyP: equivs can help you fake up a package to satisfy a dependency
[01:43] <a|3x> sarnold, cpanel default for sessions is /tmp, seems insecure
[02:03] <jtv> ng
[04:48] <pcnerd> Hey all, is there a manifest listing default packages for server distributions?
[05:23] <sarnold> pity a|3x is gone. I whole hearted agree that cpanel is insecure. just in case anyone wanted my opinion. :)
[05:26] <maxagaz> hi
[05:26] <maxagaz> is there a recommended web hosting control panel for ubuntu ?
[05:27] <maxagaz> kloxo seems to be the best choice but it only works for CentOS 5.9
[05:29] <sarnold> pcnerd: it doesn't directly answer your question, but ubuntu-dev-tools provides seeded-in-ubuntu, which can tell you which CDs a given package is on.. might be alright for answering smaller questions
[05:38] <cppCzar> Nvm. OSX shell is just terrible compared to linux
[05:38] <cppCzar> gotta install homebrew
[05:41] <pcnerd> sarnold: thanks. I'm actually trying to find the list of manually installed packages so I can document the setup - I can only find the manifest for desktop is my main problem.
[05:48] <sarnold> pcnerd: ahhh. I wonder if the /var/log/dpkg.log* files would help you figure out what wasn't installed during system install?
[06:24] <geser> pcnerd: "apt-mark showmanual" lists the packages which apt considers to got manually installed (e.g. not through a dependency)
[06:40] <jamespage> adam_g, not that I am aware of
[07:08] <cppCzar> wget is awesome
[07:18] <Sakrecoer> got disconnected... i hope i didn't miss anything..
[07:26] <Sakrecoer> i had a hopefull dream where there was a a package similar to usb-creator-common but, LAN-creator-common, allowing you to just inject any readymade ubuntu distro .iso to any PXE capable machine :)
[07:28] <Sakrecoer_> hmm... seems i got a flacky connection... sorry... i hope i didn't miss any magic answers? :D
[07:45] <Sakrecoer_> interesting in my case: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetbootManagement
[07:49] <maxagaz> sarnold: not sure to understand what you mean
[07:49] <maxagaz> sarnold: about web hosting control panel
[07:50] <maxagaz> is there a better choice than webmin to administrate my server with a web interface ?
[08:01] <Sakrecoer_> maybe my dream of serial LAN booting all my family memebers computers, is obsolete for todays diskless aka cloud world ? :)
[08:03] <kalle_> I need some help with a ubuntu server that sometimes resets some tcp connections..
[09:10] <zetheroo> I made this file "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" read only with "chmod 444" - is it in any way possible that it is still being written to - perhaps on bootup!?
[09:10] <jpds> zetheroo: Yeah, I think it's generated on boot.
[09:11] <zetheroo> jpds: I thought it was edited on boot ... not generated ...
[09:11] <jpds> zetheroo: /etc/init/udev-finish.conf
[09:13] <zetheroo> I need to be able to ensure that the OS does not fix itself to any MAC Addresses ... otherwise we have networking issues when moving disks from one host to another ...
[09:14] <jpds> zetheroo: Well, yes. You're suppose to delete the file before you move the disks over.
[09:14] <zetheroo> Ha - that's not really possible if the host they were in originally dies ...
[09:15] <jpds> zetheroo: Delete it after you've moved across then.
[09:15] <zetheroo> yes, that is what I want to avoid!
[09:15] <jpds> That file exists so your eth0 doesn't become a eth1 the next time you boo.
[09:15] <jpds> boot*
[09:15] <zetheroo> I want to be able to put them into the backup host and have them up and running off the bat ... no editing etc ...
[09:16] <jpds> zetheroo: Yeah, but what are you going to do when your interfaces start renaming themselves?
[09:18] <jpds> zetheroo: You're going to have even more networking issues then.
[09:18] <zetheroo> so there is no way to properly do what I need?
[09:18] <jpds> Instead of just doing a simple 'rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' on first boot.
[09:19] <jpds> zetheroo: No, because udev needs a way to map your interface names to MAC addresses.
[09:19] <jpds> Just delete the file when you move the disks across.
[09:19] <zetheroo> so you have to delete the file and then reboot?
[09:20] <jpds> Yes.
[09:20] <jpds> Then it's regenerated with the new MAC addresses.
[09:21] <zetheroo> hmmm ok
[09:22] <jpds> Same thing applies for when you clone a VM and the new VM has different MAC addresses.
[09:25] <zetheroo> well with a VM if I take the image and boot it up with a new xml (new mac address) it seems to not mind it and the networking works fine ... without having to manipulate any files etc ...
[09:26] <zetheroo> at least a Linux VM
[09:27] <jpds> zetheroo: Not if you literally cp the installed image and define different XML for it.
[09:28] <jpds> s/image/system/
[09:30] <zetheroo> I have had to create a new XML for a VM and never had an issue with networking due to change of mac address ... only issue occurred if there was a software license on the VM which was locked to the mac address ...
[09:30] <zetheroo> the Linux OS on the VM never booted up and said it could not connect to the network due to a different MAC addres ..
[09:31] <jpds> Well, in my experience I've had issues with 70-persistent-net.rules on Ubuntu VMs because of the issue you stated above.
[09:31] <jpds> Anyway.
[09:31] <zetheroo> So I don't get why it happens with the Host disks being moved ...
[09:31] <zetheroo> Ah, maybe Debian doesn't do this the same way Ubuntu does?
[09:32] <zetheroo> most all our Linux VM's are Debian VM;s
[09:32] <jpds> zetheroo: That's not the experience I've had, and I'm pretty sure Debian uses udev too in the same way.
[09:32] <zetheroo> hmm ... odd
[09:33] <jpds> Yep: http://www.ducea.com/2008/09/01/remove-debian-udev-persistent-net-rules/
[09:33] <jpds> And yes:
[09:33] <jpds> "I am speaking about situations when you will copy the files from a system and use them to recreate a new system, or when using some virtualization tools and cloning your vm"
[09:55] <zetheroo> so if I delete (or rename) this file "70-persistent-net.rules" on the current running machines that would allow the disks to be placed into another host without experiencing network issues!?
[09:58] <andol> zetheroo: Yepp, if you move/clone a virtual disk you will want to remove that file
[09:59] <zetheroo> well I was referring to physical machines ... not virtual  ...
[09:59] <jpds> zetheroo: Yes.
[09:59] <andol> zetheroo: Same thing
[09:59] <zetheroo> ok yes
[10:01] <jpds> zetheroo: Do you understand why that file exists though?
[10:21] <zetheroo> well the file sorta locks the MAC address of a NIC to an interface label that is then used by the user to configure the network - no!?
[10:36] <zetheroo> jpds:^
[10:53] <whiteshark> could any1 spare some time to help me getting my PXE server install a full 12.04 on new servers
[10:53] <whiteshark> google didnt offer any working solution
[10:54] <whiteshark> on google i read about a casper folder, none of the iso i downloaded have a casper folder
[10:55] <whiteshark> my problem is that mid pre-install when i need to select a mirror server, it refuses my mounted iso on my http server
[10:56] <whiteshark> telling me that the release is wrong
[10:59] <whiteshark> any1 able to help on PXE issues?
[11:00] <whiteshark> any1 able to help on PXE issues?
[11:03] <njuergens> maybe the release _is_ wrong? i think the installer is very picky about the versino you boot and the version on CD
[11:05] <whiteshark> i collected the installer from the iso
[11:05] <whiteshark> install/netboot folder
[11:06] <whiteshark> on google i found some explanation telling me that i need an alternate iso, so i did, but still no casper folder on it
[11:13] <cfhowlett> whiteshark, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[11:14] <cfhowlett> whiteshark, for the network installer
[11:14] <whiteshark> i will take a look
[11:14] <whiteshark> tnx
[11:15] <whiteshark> nope, i already tried this
[11:15] <whiteshark> this is the netboot installer
[11:15] <whiteshark> i manage to boot from pxe, and i manage to start the install, but the installer want to download from internet
[11:16] <cfhowlett> whiteshark, I've never done PXE but it sounds like something is still pointed at the internet and not your custom source
[11:16] <Sakrecoer7> hi. i am trying to netboot 12.04 desktop on two PAE capable machines on a LAN without internet. all info i find suggesting to use a local mirror serve earlier ubuntu versions  and suggest that the .iso be mounted on a path accessible with apache2. is this still the case? i have tried every available iso. when using netboot for12.04 the manual mirror selector conplains about wrong kernel version. netbbot 13.04 just wont even bother finding anyt
[11:17] <whiteshark> i mounted an iso on my webserver an choose my own mirror giving the ip + folder, but the installer refuses it
[11:17] <whiteshark> sakrecoer7, i have the same issue
[11:18] <whiteshark> it works till the mirror select option, then it just refuses the mounted iso
[11:18] <Sakrecoer7> ah... whiteshark :-) so we are 2! lets get this and setup a proper howto afterwards! :-)
[11:18] <whiteshark> i used this to start with
[11:18] <whiteshark> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[11:18] <whiteshark> everything works except, the ubuntu
[11:19] <Sakrecoer7> same here...
[11:19] <whiteshark> i used 12.04
[11:19] <whiteshark> and on google u see that some special folder called casper is needed
[11:19] <Sakrecoer7> i tied both 12.04 and 13.04
[11:19] <whiteshark> i downloaded like 10 iso's none of them have a casper folder
[11:20] <Sakrecoer7> yes the documentation is very poor and confusing for netboot
[11:20] <whiteshark> yes it is.
[11:21] <whiteshark> i used http for mirror and it doesnt work, nfs for mirror doesnt work either
[11:22] <Sakrecoer7> whiteshark: will you hang arround today? i have to go afk now but back ~2pm cet
[11:22] <cfhowlett> outmoded tutorial for 9.04?  try an update    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[11:22] <cfhowlett> http://s205blog.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/ubuntu-12-04-lte-pxe-network-installation-tutorial/
[11:22] <whiteshark> im in server channel and here
[11:22] <cfhowlett> http://digitalsanctum.com/2013/03/22/how-to-setup-a-pxe-server-on-ubuntu/
[11:23] <Sakrecoer7> lets merge experiences and get this straight for future ubuntu heads! :-)
[11:23] <njuergens> 11.10 still had the casper directory, so that must have changed afterwards
[11:25] <matzipan> hey guys.... I'm trying to deploy a small vm cluster on 2 quad core machines... what do you recommend? openstack seems to be a bit too complicated for the job
[11:27] <matzipan> anyne around?
[11:27] <matzipan> hey guys.... I'm trying to deploy a small vm cluster on 2 quad core machines... what do you recommend? openstack seems to be a bit too complicated for the job
[11:27] <matzipan> sorry for double message
[11:31] <whiteshark> cfhowlett i just read the instructions, but this is for the desktop version, and as mentioned there is no casper folder on the server edition iso found in archives
[11:31] <whiteshark> i have no clue which folder substitute the "casper" folder on the server editions
[11:32] <whiteshark> i never see the casper folder and content
[11:34] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/version-depends/+merge/183855
[11:35] <njuergens> matzipan, cluster and 'small' dont mix well
[11:35] <zul> i should probably login to launchpad
[11:35] <njuergens> do you already have storage for a cluster?
[11:36] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[11:36] <njuergens> also, is this a HA cluster or what do you expect from a cluster :-)
[11:37] <patdk-lap> I expect it to have coffee ready for me each day
[11:38] <whiteshark> does any1 have a pxe server used to install 12.04 ?
[11:38] <matzipan> njuergens: I might be naive and look for something unatainable with what I have and maybe not know the terms, so this what i wanna do: i have 2 quad core rackmounted servers and I want to decomission some of my old servers and make them as vms on these  new machines. the final result should have vms that share the resources of the 2 servers and migrate between them if it crashes (which i believe is called a vm cluster) ?
[11:39] <patdk-lap> whiteshark, asking every 15min won't help
[11:39] <whiteshark> new time new users
[11:40] <patdk-lap> that still doesn't invalidate what I said
[11:40] <matzipan> njuergens: after decomissioning the old servers, I might even wanna add them as nodes to this cluster
[11:41] <whiteshark> didnt hear u giving me any help, so wonder why i should listen to what ur sayin now, if it bothers you, click on the red cross on the right upper corner
[11:41] <zetheroo> I am trying to setup bonding and bridging on a KVM host server ... the bonding/bridging works on the host fine, but the VM's cannot ping the gateway ...
[11:42] <patdk-lap> why? a channel ban is simpler
[11:42] <patdk-lap> there are simple rules to follow on irc
[11:42] <njuergens> matzipan, so you are using local storage? you need a way to sync the storage between nodes if you want failover
[11:42] <patdk-lap> if someone can't follow those simple rules, people won't be willing to help you
[11:43] <patdk-lap> continuing to be a troll, will cause a ban
[11:43] <whiteshark> yes, like.... dont speak on channel, saying nothing usefull
[11:43] <matzipan> njuergens: i can easily add a filestore to the setup if needed
[11:43] <whiteshark> im asking for help, your are the one who is anoying
[11:43] <matzipan> njuergens: openstack looks a bit of an overkill, and if ever anything breaks seems like it's gonna be really difficult to debug... although maybe jujucan help with that
[11:44] <whiteshark> so leave me alone, u can also get banned dont forget
[11:44] <njuergens> matzipan, do you want/need automatic failover?
[11:44] <patdk-lap> hmm?
[11:45] <matzipan> njuergens: want yes... although automatic is an option
[11:49] <njuergens> pacemaker might  work for you, but that too is complex and hard to debug
[11:49] <njuergens> personally, I like to use libvirt to manage my VMs
[11:50] <njuergens> if you set it up the right way you can do manual failover quite nice
[11:50] <matzipan> njuergens: okay then... we might just end up doing that
[11:50] <njuergens> but you have to set up your storage first, because you need shared or syncronized storage first
[11:50] <matzipan> is there a monitoring dashboard that plays nice with plain libvirt?
[11:51] <njuergens> there again a a lot of options, ceph, drbd, sheepdog
[11:52] <jamespage> zul: recheck on https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/version-depends/+merge/183855
[11:52] <jamespage> I found some more missing versioned depends
[11:52] <njuergens> or SAN storages from $VENDOR :-)
[11:54] <matzipan> njuergens: nah, it would probably cost too much... we have our own storage nodes anyway
[11:54] <njuergens> what kind of storage is that?
[11:55] <matzipan> njuergens: don't know the exact details but it's a big ugly box with raid hdds in it
[11:55] <matzipan> network-attached
[11:56] <matzipan> njuergens: http://nss.cs.ubc.ca/remus/ have you ever used this ?
[11:56] <matzipan> we might need HA on some of the vms...
[11:57] <matzipan> *read want not need*
[11:58] <matzipan> shit... read "we might want HA" not "we might need HA"
[11:59] <rbasak> smoser: have you backported simplestreams to precise at all yet?
[11:59] <rbasak> (if not I can stick it in a ppa against precise for testing)
[12:00] <njuergens> for a real HA cluster you need a lot of stuff, at least 3 nodes (so yo have a real quorum), redundant communication paths, STONITH and so on
[12:00] <zul> jamespage: +1
[12:02] <matzipan> njuergens: oh.. okay... if it looks like we have no idea what we're trying to do, it's because we're students :P
[12:02] <matzipan> njuergens: university radio york station, in the uk... we're trying to virtualize some of our stuff and hopefully learn stuff on the way
[12:06] <matzipan> njuergens: http://nss.cs.ubc.ca/remus/doc.html doesn't look that difficult to setup...
[12:07] <matzipan> i might be naive saying that
[12:09] <njuergens> i have never heard of it, although that doesn't have to mean anything :-)
[12:10] <matzipan> njuergens: thanks for the help, esspecialy for pointing out what are the right terms for what i'm trying to do
[12:10] <matzipan> i'm going to give it a go later today... fun fun fun
[12:11] <jpds> zetheroo: Yep.
[12:11] <njuergens> good luck with your project :-)
[12:11] <matzipan> njuergens: thanks
[12:22] <msafi> What umask should I set to a directory to make sure all newly created files are owned by a www-data group?
[12:25] <patdk-wk> not possible
[12:25] <patdk-wk> umask can only control if the group has permissions, not control what group it is
[12:27] <smoser> rbasak, no ppa, but trunk should build packages. ./tools/build-deb
[12:28]  * smoser reboots
[12:30] <kalle_> I need some help with a ubuntu server that sometimes resets some tcp connections..
[12:32] <msafi> patdk-wk, okay, is it possible to set umask on www-data group to give it access to all newly created files at /var/www?
[12:34] <patdk-wk> you can't set umask on a group
[12:34] <patdk-wk> you set umake on programs
[12:36] <msafi> patdk-wk, okay, can I set umask on the program that creates new files (like Explorer in Windows) so that it gives access to all newly created files to the www-data group?
[12:36] <rbasak> smoser: before I saw that I tried a simple backport to precise. There are a bunch of dependencies not available in precise: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6062495/
[12:37] <rbasak> (not all of them - just that apt-get can't resolve all of them)
[12:37] <smoser> rbasak, hm.. those are all available in cloud archive.
[12:38] <smoser> but, yeah.
[12:38] <rbasak> smoser: ah. I'll add the cloud archive then!
[12:38] <rbasak> Thanks
[12:38] <smoser> python-requests could/should be not a depends for precise.
[12:38] <jamespage> zul, github.com changed IP I think
[12:38] <jamespage> lab no longer has access...
[12:38] <smoser> the rest we'll have have to think about how to do that right.
[12:38] <zul> jamespage:  lovely...i didnt want to get anything done today anyways ;)
[12:39] <smoser> rbasak, maybe just move the python-requests to a recommends ?
[12:40] <msafi> I have a directory that's created by "git". Now I can't edit that directory with sftpuser. How can I  solve this problem?
[12:40] <rbasak> smoser: that sounds reasonable.
[12:40] <msafi> I created the directory using "git clone <url>"
[12:41] <rbasak> smoser: I think it'd be useful for us to agree on the release and cloud archive entries to use as a primary test/development environment.
[12:41] <rbasak> I've been using precise to help make sure that I don't accidentally do things that we can't backport later.
[12:41] <smoser> rbasak, sure. its interesting actually...
[12:42]  * msafi thinking of giving up on trying to administer his own server. He may have underestimated the scope of this challenge...
[12:42] <rbasak> But then the catch is that I might do things that break in saucy I guess.
[12:42] <smoser> because specifically we dont want to depned on that stuff for the 'cloud-tools' pocket that we're targetting
[12:42] <smoser> we dont want to depend on the openstack stuff.
[12:42]  * msafi likes having full control over his machine, though...
[12:42] <smoser> as cloud-tools is not necessarily compatible with precise-<openstack-release> pocket
[12:43] <smoser> so for precise, i think we say dont depend on that stuff, dont ship the files that use it (that should be easy enough as we dont ship them in python3-sipmlestreams)
[12:44] <smoser> i guess we could have python-simplestreams-openstack
[12:52] <smoser> but 1
[12:52] <smoser> bug 1
[12:53] <smoser> bug 665235
[12:54] <rbasak> qemu-kvm has been replaced by qemu-system-* now or something, right? If I want to depend on having qemu available with kvm in saucy, what should I depend on?
[12:56] <jamespage> adam_g, I just landed support for havana/neutron into the quantum-gateway charm
[12:57] <jamespage> flushed out a few upgrade issues for havana as well - fixes made in neutron packaging branch ready for next upload (hint zul)
[12:57] <msafi> Okay friends, good bye!
[12:57] <zul> jamespage:  meaning i should probably upload a new neutron right?
[12:57] <jamespage> zul, well wait until thurs/friday
[12:58] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[13:21] <zul> jamespage:  hmmmm https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40218/
[13:22] <jamespage> zul, zo/\jreonvderkjnvdf
[13:22] <jamespage> \o/
[13:22] <jamespage> new dep right?
[13:22] <zul> *cry*
[13:22] <jamespage> but a better dep that nodejs
[13:23] <rbasak> Do they not have an approval process for new dependencies?
[13:25] <zul> rbasak:  yeah but im not sure who approved it in this case
[13:30] <Sakrecoer7> another interesting project for netboot http://www.tcosproject.org/
[13:31] <Sakrecoer7> but somehow, the hole netboot thing seemed to have stopped at 10.04 ...
[13:32] <Sakrecoer7> 99% of tutorials for netboot recommend usiong dhcp3-server, which is deprecated in 13.04 ...
[13:32] <rbasak> zul: could you try and get the process amended, perhaps, to make sure that all downstream distros are explicitly notified at the start of the processes?
[13:32] <zul> rbasak:  thats a good idea
[13:33] <rbasak> zul: something for the next ODS-or-whatever-it's-called-now perhaps?
[13:33] <zul> rbasak:  yep yep
[13:34] <rbasak> Checklists FTW :)
[13:49] <baswazz_> hdparm does not spindown my hd's can anyone help me out?
[13:51] <rbasak> !details | baswazz_
[13:55] <baswazz_> ubottu: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, i have a problem with hdparm, my hdd's do not spindown when i enable spindown_time = 24 in /etc/hdparm.conf, after a reboot nothing happen disks stay idle/active. Also when i manually add it to hdparm -S24 /dev/sd[b-g] nothing happen. I tried 60 (5min) 120 (10min) last weekend it did work, i also reinstalled ubuntu but it does not mather.
[13:56] <baswazz_> i am a little lost how to fix this, google did not present a answer
[13:58] <baswazz_> i tried to add it to update-rc.d upstart by making a script and put it in /etc/init.d/hdparm chmod +x
[13:58] <baswazz_> but sinds it does not respond on my manually added cmd's i think this would do nothing to help yet
[13:59] <baswazz_> AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
[14:00] <baswazz_> so it could not intefer with apm 254-128
[14:00] <rbasak> baswazz_: start by verifying that when you ask hdparm to spin down your disk by hand, it actually spins down.
[14:01] <rbasak> Beyond that, I'm not sure I can offer any additional help. I don't spin down disks on my servers! Perhaps someone else will come along.
[14:01] <rbasak> smoser: I have simplestreams patches ready to land. How do you want them? A separate MP for each separate little thing seems a bit obtuse.
[14:02] <smoser> rbasak, i didn't design bzr workflow :)
[14:02] <rbasak> smoser: git format-patch/send-email output OIK?
[14:02] <rbasak> OK?
[14:02] <smoser> you can git-send-email to me if you want.
[14:02] <rbasak> Awesome. Thanks!
[14:03] <smoser> rbasak, push your branch somewhere though.
[14:03] <smoser> push a bzr branch.
[14:04] <baswazz_> rbasak: yes if i do: hdparm -y /dev/sd[b-g] the disks do spindown, i have test it for a 24 hour and the disks stay stanby when i use hdparm -y /dev/sd[b-g]
[15:02] <smoser> rbasak, i think you broke --output-format with your --pretty arg.
[15:04] <rbasak> smoser: it's sort of intentional. I didn't mean for --pretty to be used with --output-format. --pretty is supposed to supercede it. Perhaps I should check and fail if both are used at parsing stage though.
[15:04] <rbasak> smoser: I don't see how we could make the two work together.
[15:05] <rbasak> --pretty is useful to see what's going on though.
[15:05] <rbasak> smoser: anyway that patch isn't important. Feel free to skip it if you think it needs work.
[15:05] <smoser> right. i dont think they work together. but maybe '--output-format=PRETTY'
[15:05] <smoser> ?
[15:06] <rbasak> I guess.
[15:18] <smoser> rbasak, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063024/
[15:24] <Sakrecoer7> haha... the level of confusion regarding netboot is immense...
[15:27] <patdk-wk> heh? netboot is simple, and I have never used dhcp3 for it
[15:27] <Sakrecoer7> like this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto it's brilliant. very well explained. But it is stated in the beginning: "Diskless Booting simply uses the remote server for storage and still runs all applications on the local client station. This works better if you have full powered PC's to work with, and are working with a large number of clients that would require too much CPU and RAM to run all their applications o
[15:28] <Sakrecoer7> patdk-wk cheers! how did you do? server version is easy... but desktop? i've been trying for about 2 weeks now...
[15:29] <patdk-wk> heh? it's all the same
[15:29] <Sakrecoer7> patdk-wk i havn't been using dhcp3.server either (its replace by isc-dhcpsomething anyways)... i've used bootp, tftpd-hda and apache2... but since it failed everytime, i might try dhcp3..
[15:29] <patdk-wk> isc-dhcp-server is dhcp3
[15:29] <Sakrecoer7> i know they are the same, except some conf files that have different location...
[15:30] <patdk-wk> when I mean I don't use dhcp3, I mean, I don't use isc-dhcp*
[15:30] <Sakrecoer7> patdk-wk : cool! so what do you use?
[15:30] <patdk-wk> well, just about everything
[15:30]  * Sakrecoer7 notes that he ment to say "i know ther are NOT the same etc.." :)
[15:30] <patdk-wk> technically, isc-dhcp, windows dhcp, dnsmasq, sun dhcp
[15:31] <patdk-wk> I manage a lot of different networks with different needs
[15:31] <Sakrecoer7> sweet, would like to hint me on how to do it on a LAN that is striclty ubuntu ?
[15:31] <Sakrecoer7> preferably 12.04<
[15:31] <patdk-wk> then you are pretty much limited to isc-dhcp or dnsmasq
[15:32] <Sakrecoer7> also i need the mirrors to be local... this is where it always fail in my scenario..
[15:32] <patdk-wk> well, that is harder
[15:32] <patdk-wk> you need to rewrite the mirrors or do dns replacement
[15:33] <Sakrecoer7> i can boot, no problem... bit just keeps complaining about kernel versions in the local mirror...
[15:33] <patdk-wk> are you sure you mirrored the repos correctly?
[15:33] <patdk-wk> doing it from the iso image isn't good enough
[15:33] <Sakrecoer7> ok... so i can safely ignore anyone who tells me i should mount the .iso at a location accesible by apache?
[15:34] <patdk-wk> well, I guess it might work, but I have never done that or attempted it
[15:34] <patdk-wk> easier to just mirror the repos
[15:34] <Sakrecoer7> well.... no.. i'm not sure...this tutorial took me the furthest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#Desktop_Installation
[15:34] <patdk-wk> you could feed the mirror from the iso at first though
[15:34] <patdk-wk> where did you get your netboot images?
[15:35] <Sakrecoer7> "mirror teh repos"... sounds delicious.... could you point me to some sort of howto please?
[15:35] <patdk-wk> I'm thinking your netboot image is newer than your iso image, and there is the issue
[15:35] <Sakrecoer7> i've tried this one: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[15:36] <Sakrecoer7> and this one : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[15:36] <rbasak> smoser: lgtm, thanks.
[15:36] <Sakrecoer7> both with all iso version available for 12.04 and 13.04 ...
[15:36] <Sakrecoer7> and i really mean it by ALL :) two times each :D
[15:36] <rbasak> Oooh. I wasn't aware of ArgumentParser.add_mutually_exclusive_group.
[15:37] <patdk-wk> Sakrecoer7, there are two ways
[15:37] <patdk-wk> apt-mirror or rsync
[15:37] <patdk-wk> I used apt-mirror for awhile, but didn't like it, rsync just seemed to work better
[15:37] <patdk-wk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rsyncmirror
[15:38] <patdk-wk> it will use some diskspace, wonder what current is? 10gigs?
[15:39] <Sakrecoer7> sorry patdk-wk, diskspace? as on the drive of my server?
[15:39] <patdk-wk> whereever this mirror copy is going live
[15:40] <patdk-wk> if you use like apt-cacher, it could mirror only the needed parts
[15:40] <patdk-wk> but your still likely to run into issues doing that, without full time internet backend on it
[15:40] <Sakrecoer7> ok.... well... second bogus: there is no internet to be obtained in my scenario.... :(
[15:41] <patdk-wk> I personally use apt-cacher-ng so all my servers use the local cached copy, except for first time accesses
[15:41] <patdk-wk> Sakrecoer7, there is no netboot on your iso image?
[15:42] <Sakrecoer7> ah man... i had this delcious dream where someone build this package like usb-creator-common, but it was called LAN-creator-common.. and it would let me inject my own system and all its app but no personal settings/personal home to any PXE capabale machine...
[15:43] <patdk-wk> heh, I have a pxe server that does that
[15:43] <patdk-wk> have whole lists of installs to pick from, management tools, and backup software
[15:43] <Sakrecoer7> sorry patdk-wk, my iso images come from ubuntu server.... i beleive they keep netboot and iso seperated, except the mini.iso that is in the netboot section of their downloads...
[15:43] <patdk-wk> but I think it's just a mix of different netboot and iso images causing the issue
[15:44] <Sakrecoer7> aaaw.... now you made me jalous :D
[15:44] <Sakrecoer7> yes.... i think so too... but where is cahlry aka the corresponding kernel?
[15:44] <Sakrecoer7> cahlry=charly
[15:45] <Sakrecoer7> it's not in ubuntu12.04.1-2-3 alternate/dekstop, nor in xubuntu, lubuntu.... :(
[15:47] <patdk-wk> Sakrecoer7, on the internet mirrors
[15:47] <patdk-wk> Sakrecoer7, maybe you should try that
[15:47] <patdk-wk> setup apt-cacher-ng
[15:47] <patdk-wk> feed it the iso
[15:47] <patdk-wk> install using your netboot
[15:47] <patdk-wk> then you will have a complete mirror of what is needed locally
[15:47] <patdk-wk> cause it will pull what it doesn't have from the internet
[15:48] <patdk-wk> then you can take it offline
[15:48] <smoser> rbasak, 'filter_item' moved to simplestreams/filters.py
[15:48] <smoser> are you opposed to dropping unused argument 'target' ?
[15:48] <rbasak> Looking
[15:48] <Sakrecoer7> apt-cacher-ng you say? i have to try that! that would sort of cache everything apt-get is pulling down localy?
[15:50] <Sakrecoer7> anyways, thanks you SO much for your time patdk-wk, it is HIGHLY apreciated :)
[15:50] <rbasak> smoser: my intention was that the args are identical to MirrorWriter.filter_item.
[15:50] <rbasak> smoser: although I'm not doing it, a basic implementation of a MirrorWriter subclass that wants to filter items could just use *args, **kwargs that way.
[15:50] <smoser> yeah, but they're not anyway. :)
[15:51] <patdk-wk> Sakrecoer7, yep
[15:51] <rbasak> They're not?
[15:51] <smoser>     def filter_item(self, data, src, target, pedigree):
[15:51] <smoser>         return filters.filter_item(self.filters, data, src, pedigree)
[15:51] <smoser> self.filters is added.
[15:51] <patdk-wk> but when you take it offline, you need to move it from apt-cacher-ng to a normal webserver
[15:51] <zul> jamespage:  mongodb is getting there i had to backout a patch for precise and include a patch so far
[15:51] <patdk-wk> cause apt-cacher-ng will still want internet
[15:51] <rbasak> Right, but you can still do it with *args, **kwargs
[15:51] <patdk-wk> not sure if it has an offline mode
[15:51] <jamespage> zul, urhg
[15:51] <rbasak> Just tack the filters on to the front.
[15:51] <jamespage> zul, which ones?
[15:52] <zul> jamespage:  debian/patches/0007-Use-TIME_UTC_-macro.patch and a patch that adds a header file
[15:52] <Sakrecoer7> aha.... but.... that would sort of "cp /everything_in_apt-cacher-ng /var/www/ on the apache / bootp/ tftpd-hda server?
[15:53] <Sakrecoer7> i mean... its just about copying the files pulled down into apt-cache to the accessible webroot aka manualyset mirror adress?
[15:53] <patdk-wk> no
[15:53] <patdk-wk> it's about telling apt-get to use apt-cacher-ng as a webproxy
[15:54] <patdk-wk> just make sure you install, and configure the sample one, with everything you want to install
[15:54] <Sakrecoer7> haha.... this has got to be the most difficult/frustrating linux excerise i've been trhu :)
[15:55] <jamespage> zul, can you tweak the TIME_UTC one to work on precise?
[15:55] <patdk-wk> it's really simple :)
[15:55] <Sakrecoer7> but but... i keep moral and faith!
[15:55] <patdk-wk> the trick is you want it offline
[15:55] <jamespage> and does the new one work on saucy
[15:55] <smoser> rbasak, i dont know. your "basic implementation" described is hardly different or more complex without that.
[15:55] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063133/
[15:55] <Sakrecoer7> i hope i will say so too very soon :D
[15:55] <smoser> ie, is 'A' significantly worse than 'B' ?
[15:55] <zul> jamespage:  possibly i havent tried on saucy yet
[15:55] <zul> jamespage:  im still building locally so im still trying to iron things out
[15:56] <Sakrecoer7> and if i ever get to say so, i will write a superduper howto!
[15:56] <jamespage> zul, you might want to disable tests otherwise builds take a long time
[15:56] <Sakrecoer7> (ok maybe only super due to my spelling :D)
[15:56] <zul> jamespage:  heh now you tell me ;)
[15:56] <rbasak> smoser: I mean: filter_item(self, *args, **kwargs): return filters.filter_item(self.filters, *args, **kwargs).
[15:56] <rbasak> smoser: it stops you needing to deal with the details of the args.
[15:57] <rbasak> smoser: or perhaps the parent class should default to self.filters=[], and define filter_item as standard.
[15:58] <rbasak> Would that be cleaner?
[15:58] <smoser> rbasak, i just pushed with all 4 of your patches.
[15:58] <smoser> we can argue about that change separately.
[15:59] <rbasak> Thank you!
[15:59] <rbasak> I have instructions and some rudimentary packages ready.
[15:59] <smoser> ie, i removed the target.
[15:59] <smoser> mostly because pylint odesn't like it.
[16:00] <rbasak> Just testing again now, and I'll stick them in a PPA for an initial review.
[16:00] <rbasak> (of the basic idea that works all the way through. There's still plenty to be done)
[16:01] <smoser> woot.
[16:01] <zul> jamespage:  woot it builds...lemme try the patches against saucy
[16:04] <Sakrecoer7> patdk-wk: you don't happen to have a sort of howto setup your super magic pxeserver? (sorry for stupid question, but better stupid 2 seconds than stupid life long)
[16:09] <patdk-wk> I don't do howtos, they are pretty useless
[16:10] <patdk-wk> they work for a specific set of simular enviroments
[16:10] <RoyK> patdk-wk: they may be pretty good if written well
[16:10] <patdk-wk> and only work for a limited length of time
[16:10] <patdk-wk> royk, you mean made so generic it's almost useless?
[16:11] <patdk-wk> and my case doesn't help him at all, cause mine is all online, and he wants offline, that is highly different for what his issues are
[16:11] <RoyK> patdk-wk: some, well, yes, but I've had good help with some as well
[16:11] <patdk-wk> his issue isn't setting up pxe and dhcp
[16:11] <patdk-wk> but with getting a good set of offline repo to install from
[16:11] <RoyK> patdk-wk: sometimes it's good to learn the basics first - how things are put together
[16:13] <Sakrecoer7> both RoyK and patdk-wk have good points: its good to learn from howtos, because more often they are so generic that you get the right vocabulary to develope your own procedure :D
[16:14] <RoyK> Sakrecoer7: they are usually a bit better than manpages, though :P
[16:15] <Sakrecoer7> RoyK: yes :) and much better than nothing!
[16:15] <RoyK> indeed
[16:32] <jamespage> adam_g, I pushed a couple of neutron/quantum related fixes to the nova-cloud-controller redux branch
[16:32] <jamespage> looking at nova-compute now
[16:33] <adam_g> jamespage, cool
[16:33] <adam_g> jamespage, do yous till have concerns re: quantum/neutron naming of things?
[16:33] <jamespage> adam_g, i've not tested an upgrade quantum->neutron in ncc yet
[16:33] <jamespage> works OK in quantum-gateway
[16:33] <adam_g> i did some more testing and added comments to http://pad.ubuntu.com/redux-testing
[16:33] <jamespage> aside from the fact the charm name is now fud
[16:34] <adam_g> ceph volumes + images tested just fine for grizzly but was hitting an issue with havana, but am unsure if its the charms, packages, openstack, etc.
[16:34] <jamespage> adam_g, hmm - not touched that yet
[16:34] <jamespage> ceph was looking OK on havana/saucy last time I tested
[16:35] <adam_g> ok. ill poke closer at it today
[16:38] <jamespage> adam_g, 'band
[16:38] <jamespage> or #bang even
[16:38] <jamespage> swift-proxy has no package set for havana
[16:38]  * jamespage fixes that
[16:39] <Dian_Le_Roux> hi all
[16:40] <Dian_Le_Roux> i'm looking for documentation about qmail-ldap with courier-imap on ubuntu 12.04
[16:40] <Dian_Le_Roux> any ideas?
[16:48] <jamespage> adam_g, argh - this is like unpicking a stitch
[16:48] <jamespage> adam_g, really needs a redux to new model
[16:48] <adam_g> jamespage, for what?
[16:48] <jamespage> adam_g, swift-proxy
[16:49] <jamespage> adam_g, I stated but .. lp:~openstack-charmers/charms/precise/swift-proxy/havana
[16:50] <adam_g> jamespage, whats the problem?
[16:50] <jamespage> adam_g, its just not had the updates for havana yet
[16:50] <jamespage> version mappings etc...
[16:52] <jamespage> it currently has dumb template path resolution as well
[16:52] <jamespage> templates + os_release
[16:52] <adam_g> jamespage, oh, you mean redux to the new model?
[16:52] <jamespage> adam_g, yah
[16:52] <adam_g> jamespage, ill add it to the blueprint
[16:52] <adam_g> jamespage, keystone needs it too
[17:01] <jamespage> adam_g, +1
[17:01] <jamespage> yes
[17:01] <jamespage> but
[17:01] <jamespage> n,
[17:02] <jamespage> nm
[17:02] <jamespage> eod for me
[17:02] <jamespage> ttfn
[17:02] <adam_g> jamespage, cya :)
[17:03] <jamespage> adam_g, oh - could you do me a favour?
[17:03] <smoser> utlemming, ping.
[17:03] <jamespage> the openvswitch-datapath-lts-raring-dkms packages are awaiting verification in precise-propsed
[17:03] <jamespage> adam_g, they are for the lts-raring kernel
[17:03] <utlemming> smoser: pong
[17:03] <jamespage> any chance you could give them a sniff?
[17:04] <adam_g> jamespage, ya. bug #?
[17:04] <smoser> utlemming, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063358/
[17:04] <smoser> does that make any sense to you ?
[17:05] <smoser> the context is basically that on hyper-v 12.04 "just works" but 13.10 does not.
[17:05] <smoser> and 13.10 seems to fail to get an IP address.
[17:06] <jamespage> adam_g, bug 1213021
[17:06] <utlemming> smoser: er, no it does not make much sense....otp, but I'll dig on it
[17:10] <adam_g> jamespage, ack
[17:15] <adam_g> http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/ca/havana/libjs-swfobject-2.2+dfsg-1~cloud0/
[17:15] <adam_g> jamespage, zul new pkg
[17:16] <zul> adam_g: +1
[17:16] <adam_g> zul, k. all its dependencies look to be satisifed in precise already
[17:16] <zul> awesome
[17:40] <smoser> utlemming, ugn...
[17:40] <smoser> are you able to launch azure instances and log in ?
[17:45] <jamespage> adam_g, zul: github.com connection is working again
[17:46] <zul> jamespage:  cool i have mongodb that passes tests in saucy and precise ill post the debdiff tomorrow morning for you to look at before uploaded
[17:56] <adam_g> jamespage, ya, saw the jenkins instance get bombed with a bunch of builds
[18:19] <utlemming> smoser: negative, I was just looking at that right now
[18:21] <smoser> console output sure would be nice :)
[18:22] <utlemming> smoser: so we do have a problem...no ovf-env.xml in /var/lib/waagent
[18:22] <utlemming> smoser<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has Saucy mounted under /mnt1
[18:22] <utlemming> smoser: you're auth'ed for access
[18:27] <smoser> utlemming, there are files in /mnt1/var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net/
[18:29] <utlemming> smoser: wtf?
[18:29]  * utlemming looks deeper
[18:30] <smoser> yeah, confirmed that looks to be it.
[18:30] <smoser> 2013-09-04 17:15:16,621 - stages.py[DEBUG]: Loaded datasource DataSourceNoCloudNet - DataSourceNoCloudNet [seed=/var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net][dsmode=net]
[18:31] <utlemming> smoser: found the issue. There is a typo for the test to see if it is either Saucy or Precise for configuring cloud-init to use Azure provisioning. I'm fixing that now, and will have a test image in ~30 minutes.
[18:32] <utlemming> smoser: can you file me a high priority bug?
[18:32] <smoser> yeah.
[18:34] <utlemming> smoser: building now....
[18:34] <utlemming> smoser: brb, have to reboot...my keyboard is flaky
[18:37] <utlemming> smoser: back
[18:38] <smoser> utlemming, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1220855
[18:49] <utlemming> smoser: launch test image now...
[18:54] <smoser> utlemming,
[18:54] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1220860
[18:55] <utlemming> smoser: ack
[20:41] <smoser> bug 665235


[10:55] <warren-hill> Yesterday I installed http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso on a test system and discovered that neither gksu nor gksu is installed.  Is this a bug or a deliberate change?  if a bug what package should I report it against?  If it's a policy decision how to run GUI programs with root privleges?
[11:02] <warren-hill> anyone here?
[11:45] <warren-hill> If a package which should be part of the standard Ubuntu install is not included in the install what do I report it against?
[17:41] <RoyK> seems bug 1171945 exists at least from precise, possibly from earlier releases, but I haven't tested
[17:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1171945 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Nested RAID levels aren't started after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171945
[17:56] <warren-hill> Install of  13.03 from this iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-beta2-desktop-i386.iso  gksu is not installed.  Is this a bug?
[17:57] <warren-hill> If so what package do I report it against?
[17:59] <jtaylor> hm is gksu still supposed to be used?
[18:00] <warren-hill> What else would you use to run a GUI application as root?
[18:00] <jtaylor> pkexec I think
[18:01] <warren-hill> There is lots of info such as here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo on using gksu.  How do use pkexec?
[18:02] <warren-hill> for example to edit a config file: gksu gedit path_to_file
[18:06] <jtaylor> hm pkexec does not allow running guis unless explicitly allowed so its probably not a replacement
[18:07] <jtaylor> not sure why gksu was removed then
[18:07] <warren-hill> z
[18:07] <warren-hill> so its a bug?
[18:08] <warren-hill> if so what do I report it against?
[18:08] <jtaylor> I doubt its a bug, I just don't know what you are supposed to use instead
[18:10] <warren-hill> For now I can use sudo -i then do everything from the command line but it's not good for all users
[18:14] <warren-hill> What defines the packages that are part of a standard install?  maybe there is some info to say if the removal was deliberate and why
[18:16] <jtaylor> you might get a better answer in #ubuntu-devel
[18:16] <warren-hill> thanks I'll try there
[18:24] <hggdh> gksudo?
[19:57] <Letozaf> Hi guys I want to ask you about bug 1099122, I always use to encounter this problem while testing on ARM, now the problem does not occur anymore, but do not know how to mark this bug. invalid is not correct as it occurred and fixed released does not sound good either
[19:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1099122 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "unable to enter timezone city in input field during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099122
[20:03] <bdmurray> Letozaf: Invalid is the better choice of the two since we don't know what exactly fixed it
[20:04] <Letozaf> bdmurray, ok thank you
[20:05] <bdmurray> no problem
[22:12] <m-a> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fetchmail/+bug/1171818 can cause data corruption for some users. It should be marked high priority, marked as triaged, and should be either patched (patch available from Git repo) or SRU'd.
[22:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1171818 in fetchmail (Ubuntu) "fetchmail mimedecode option drops last message line" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:40] <Cas> please can someone else review this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/deluge/+bug/1168858
[22:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1168858 in deluge (Ubuntu) "Nautilus window opens behind current window" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:43] <jtaylor> looks well reviewed to me
[22:44] <Cas> sorry?
[23:55] <Noskcaj> is there a chance bug 1172059 will be fixed in time for release?
[23:55] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1172059 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kubuntu ubiquity encryption doesn't check password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1172059


[00:06] <amk_> Question about Bazaar compatibility: should I expect using bzr 1.4 with Launchpad repositories to always work, or do I need to stick to some bzr version that Launchpad supports?
[00:09] <Rinchen> amk_, the latest is generally the best...i.e. just keep up with releases via ubuntu, debian, etc.
[00:14] <amk_> 'k; I was just worried about getting too far ahead of Launchpad.  Thanks!
[00:14] <Rinchen> amk_, ah in that case....
[00:14] <Rinchen> amk_, I can tell you that LP dogfoods bzr versions
[00:15] <Rinchen> amk_, so we're almost always using a release candidate
[01:48] <directhex> a PPA upload is stopping, 1k away from completion. it's happened more than once now.
[03:40] <mruiz> hi all. I was setting up a poll and I want to know if I can delete one (my first poll).
[11:08] <directhex> this is really starting to bug me now. i simply can't dput my package
[11:18] <wgrant> directhex: Have you tried from another machine?
[11:19] <wgrant> directhex: It's unlikely to be a problem on the Launchpad side - a lot more people would have complained.
[11:23] <directhex> wgrant, i can SCP the files to a machine at work. but it's a hefty orig.tar.gz so might take a while
[11:35] <Hobbsee> wgrant: there's a bug in dput about that.
[12:23] <directhex> Hobbsee, any solutions?
[12:24] <Hobbsee> directhex: don't htink so, short of trying from another machine.
[12:25] <Hobbsee> directhex: seems to be machine specific, so copying it to another machine, then uploading it, may be a good idea
[12:27] <thomastp> Hi.  I'm trying to get to understand launchpad to fix bugs in my upstream project
[12:27] <directhex> Hobbsee, seems that worked :/
[12:27] <thomastp> In https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flumotion/+bug/223567 it says it's a duplicate of some other bug
[12:27] <thomastp> any reason why the mention of that other bug is not clickable ?
[12:27] <wgrant> thomastp: Because that is private.
[12:27] <thomastp> and apparently it is private, why is that ?
[12:28] <wgrant> Crashes are by default private, as they can contain confidential dat.
[12:28] <wgrant> *data
[12:28] <thomastp> wgrant: but I see the bug (the duplicate)
[12:28] <wgrant> Right, because you're subscribed to it.
[12:28] <Hobbsee> directhex: i suspect it's because the last packet doesnt' get sent/accepted/something like that, they all seem to be big.
[12:28] <Hobbsee> but, i'm unsure
[12:28] <thomastp> wgrant: maybe I'm missing something obvious.  I can see the duplicate but not the original bug ?
[12:28] <wgrant> thomastp: That's right.
[12:28] <wgrant> thomastp: You can now see both.
[12:29] <directhex> Hobbsee, well, this is an enormous package, so it fits that pattern
[12:29] <thomastp> wgrant: oh, so it's non-clickable as long as I don't have rights to see it ?
[12:29] <wgrant> thomastp: Correct.
[12:29] <wgrant> Launchpad won't deliberately create broken links.
[12:30] <thomastp> ok, I guess it's confusing me, but if that's how it is :)
[12:30] <thomastp> so, assume I'm now going to fix this bug upstream.  Do I need to do something in launchpad once it's fixed upstream to make that clear ?
[12:30] <thomastp> (I am an upstream maintainer, not a ubuntu user or developer)
[12:31] <wgrant> You should click `Also affects... Project', and link it to your project.
[12:31] <wgrant> (on the master bug)
[12:31] <wgrant> That will create a new task (with status/importance) for your project, where you can track the status.
[12:32] <thomastp> not sure I follow.  I maintain flumotion upstream, and we use trac for our bug tracking, not launchpad.
[12:32] <wgrant> Right, but you can link the upstream task to a bug in your Trac instance.
[12:32] <wgrant> From which the status should automatically update.
[12:33] <thomastp> ok, so file a ticket in my trac, then link to that in launchpad ?
[12:34] <wgrant> Correct.
[12:35] <thomastp> ok, thanks.  Let's see how this goes
[12:36] <thomastp> ok, so just so I understand this.  There is a "project" Flumotion in launchpad, which I assume is some sort of proxy for the "upstream version".  And there is something called flumotion (source) which I assume is the ubuntu package of it
[12:37] <wgrant> That's right.
[12:37] <thomastp> and so when I look for bugs in flumotion, I get bugs of the upstream version, not the ones filed against the package ?
[12:37] <wgrant> Yes.
[12:37] <thomastp> so I should in fact be looking at package bugs first ?
[12:37] <wgrant> Probably, as that's where they'll be reported by Ubuntu users.
[12:38] <thomastp> right - Iguess I was confused because when I searched for flumotion in launchpad it only shows the project, not the package, hence it was showing 0 bugs
[12:38] <wgrant> That is rather confusing, yes.
[12:39] <thomastp> so, how can I update the project record, because among other things the url for our trac has changed ?
[12:39]  * wgrant has a look.
[12:40] <wgrant> You can change the Trac URL at https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/flumotion-trac/+edit.
[12:40] <wgrant> Most other attributes of the project can only be changed by Johan Dahlin.
[12:47] <thomastp> can he add me as another person to change things ?
[12:48] <wgrant> He could create a flumotion-dev or similar team, add you, and transfer the ownership to that team.
[12:48] <thomastp> ok, will ask.
[12:48] <emgent> heya wgrant :)
[12:48] <wgrant> Hi emgent.
[12:48] <thomastp> ouch, because I marked the launchpad bug as an upstream bug, launchpad autocreated the other tracker, and now it complains when I change the original tracker because the URL already exists
[12:49] <thomastp> can I delete the auto-created one ?
[12:49]  * thomastp tries
[12:49] <wgrant> thomastp: Ah, lovely. Your best bet is probably to adjust the URL on the autocreated one to something bogus.
[12:54] <thomastp> wgrant: ok, so I'm not convinced it was my autocreation hogging that URL.  my autocreated one had http:// (by mistake) and the one that is already registered uses https://
[12:54] <thomastp> where can I figure out which bug tracker uses a given URL ?
[12:55] <wgrant> thomastp: https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers might be able to help.
[12:56] <thomastp> yes, that's where I looked, but it's not in there
[12:57] <wgrant> I've no idea then - sorry.
[12:59] <thomastp> ok, reported a bug
[13:02] <thomastp> ok, does the feature of linking a bug to the upstream work ? I am trying to make it link to https://code.fluendo.com/flumotion/trac/ticket/971 and every time I do that, it decides that it is linked to code.fluendo.com/flumotion/trac/ #971 which is the auto-created one from before, on which I changed the URL to be bogus
[13:02] <thomastp> so I can't actually make it point to the correct upstream URL :/
[13:03] <thomastp> can I make it unaffect Flumotion the project somehow and start over ?
[13:04] <wgrant> thomastp: You can't make it unaffect it, but you should be able to change the watch. I'll have a look.
[13:04] <thomastp> ok, thanks.  Maybe just delete the autoregistered tracker as well -> https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/auto-code.fluendo.com-1/+edit
[13:05]  * wgrant is a mere mortal on Launchpad. I can't delete it any more than you.
[13:09] <wgrant> OK, got it.
[13:09] <wgrant> I think it's linked properly now.
[13:10] <thomastp> cool! how did you do it ?
[13:10] <wgrant> I altered the Fluendo Trac bugtracker to be code.fluendo.com, rather than core.fluendo.com, which seems to actually work.
[13:11] <wgrant> I think altered the bug watch to use the new URL, and it stopped complaining.
[13:11] <thomastp> yes, that was what I was trying to change, originally and what complained
[13:11] <wgrant> The bug watch changing thing on the bug page complained when I entered the bug URL you provided.
[13:11] <thomastp> ok, well, thank you in any case!
[13:12] <wgrant> np
[13:12] <thomastp> so, to finish my workflow tutorial :) I am about to fix the bug upstream, but the fix is on trunk.  How should I suggest to the ubuntu package maintainer to include this patch in the stable version ?
[13:13] <thomastp> hm, Launchpad couldn't connect to Flumotion Trac.
[13:13] <wgrant> There's no Ubuntu maintainer as such.
[13:13] <thomastp> this might be because of the self-signed cert
[13:13] <wgrant> That's possibly because of the invalid HTTPS cert.
[13:13] <wgrant> Yes.
[13:14] <thomastp> one day someone will explain to me what software has against self-signed certs
[13:14] <thomastp> what do you mean, there's no ubuntu maintainer ? someone is packaging it no ?
[13:14] <wgrant> It's probably synced from Debian.
[13:14] <wgrant> Self-signed certificates are worse than useless.
[13:16] <thomastp> wgrant: why ? they provide encryption so that people can login without plaintext pw
[13:18] <wgrant> thomastp: I can create my own very nice self-signed certificate and MITM you.
[13:19] <thomastp> wgrant: sure, which is an acceptable risk of ss certs, and is still better than plaintext http auth
[13:20] <wgrant> It creates a false sense of security.
[13:20] <thomastp> wgrant: which would apply to people actually logging in - but launchpad isn't logging in
[13:21] <wgrant> Right, but self-signed certs are still evil and should be discouraged.
[16:07] <emgent> heya Gwaihir
[16:08] <Gwaihir> hi emgent
[17:48] <fta> hm, i'm not allowed to +linkbranchtoseries a branch that i've pushed to my team, in a project owned by that same team. how is that supposed to work ?
[17:52] <zwnj> hi there
[17:53] <zwnj> i have problem submitting bugs on edge
[21:14] <elmo> as a reminder: Launchpad will be offline from maintenance in 45 minutes time, for 2 hours (i.e. 21:00-23:00 UTC)
[21:58] <ffm> How do I ask for a upstream tracker to be added? (It's trac-based)
[22:01] <dasdsdsadsdasd> hi there, i've a short question regarding the "copy package" feature
[22:02] <dasdsdsadsdasd> will the packages be build again in the new ppa when i unselect "copy binaries"?
[22:03] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i did this last time, build process started but no debs were available after this
[22:04] <ffm> dasdsdsadsdasd: ever thought of having a more prononcable nick?
[22:05] <dasdsdsadsdasd> oh, sorry i am using a friends pc
[22:05] <dasdsdsadsdasd> wait
[22:07] <Romario> back again with a new, better nick ;-)
[22:08] <Romario> ffm, time to answer my question?
[22:08] <ffm> Romario: I'm sorry, I personally don't know. LP is down anyway...
[22:09] <Romario> i know, i thought it would be a good time to ask some questions ;-)
[22:09] <ffm> Heh.
[22:10] <ffm> Oooh... going to edge.lp.net gives us OOPSs.
[22:10] <ffm> (not literally lp.net
[22:11] <elmo> ffm: fixed, thanks
[22:11] <Romario> ok, thanks...i'll come back later after maintenance
[22:11] <Romario> bye
[22:19] <ffm> elmo: np
[22:20] <laga> a static, HTML-only snapshot of LP would be nice
[22:31] <ffm> laga: yeah, it would...
[22:52] <elmo> launchpad's back up
[22:54] <bimberi> smooth upgrade :)
[22:54] <maktrix> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/32696
[23:01] <ffm> So, can anyone add the OLPC bug tracker? It's dev.laptop.org
[23:01] <ffm> (trac)
[23:04] <elmo> ffm: I doubt any LP devs/admins are around to do that atm; you might want to file a question against launchpad for it
[23:04] <elmo> (assuming you haven't already)
[23:05] <ffm> elmo: I havn't. Will do.
[23:21] <Romario> anyone here familiar with the copy package feature?


[04:46] <punkgeek> any body can help me how to change cli login text page?
[04:50] <sarnold> punkgeek: check out /etc/motd or /etc/update-motd.d/
[04:53] <punkgeek> thank you, after i change it, what should i do?
[04:54] <sarnold> log in again and make sure it looks nice? :)
[04:54] <punkgeek> no it doesnt work :D
[04:54] <punkgeek> i change 00-header  but i see ubuntu massege
[04:56] <punkgeek> need change others file?
[05:40] <punkgeek> i need shell script for change root password, any body can help me?
[05:51] <lordievader> punkgeek: No need for a script, simply run: sudo passwd
[05:54] <punkgeek> no, i need shell script for another work
[05:55] <lordievader> punkgeek: Besides, the root password is disabled with good reason.
[05:55] <lordievader> Err, root account.
[05:55] <punkgeek> سثث فاشف
[05:55] <punkgeek> see that
[05:55] <lordievader> Yes?
[05:55] <punkgeek> #!/bin/bash
[05:55] <punkgeek> echo "Enter Password For Root:"
[05:55] <punkgeek> read pass
[05:55] <punkgeek> echo -e "$pass\n$pass\n"| passwd root
[05:55] <punkgeek> when run it:
[05:56] <punkgeek> root@ubuntu:~# sh pass.sh
[05:56] <punkgeek> Enter Password For Root:
[05:56] <punkgeek> sdfDSF34rdfg
[05:56] <punkgeek> Enter new UNIX password: Retype new UNIX password: Sorry, passwords do not match
[05:56] <punkgeek> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[05:56] <punkgeek> passwd: password unchanged
[05:56] <lordievader> !paste| punkgeek
[05:57] <lordievader> punkgeek: Like I said, no need to build a script around it. Simply run 'sudo passwd'. Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo too.
[05:58] <punkgeek> thank you
[05:59] <punkgeek> it's work, :X
[05:59] <punkgeek> D:
[05:59] <lordievader> punkgeek: Please do read the link I gave you. Enabling the root account is not Ubuntu policy.
[06:00] <punkgeek> ok
[07:46] <laconic__> hi all
[07:47] <laconic__> I've just (accidentally) deleted (rm) my rc1.d (please don't ask me how)
[07:47] <laconic__> any way to recover? (I'm aware of the obvious answer which includes reinstalling everything)
[07:48] <laconic__> I'm running a 12.04
[07:48] <laconic__> my system is still up and running, but I'd rather not try to reboot it
[07:49] <laconic__> I've read somewhere that rc1 is used only for recovery, so it's not that big of a deal
[08:19] <peetaur2> laconic__: testdisk
[08:19] <peetaur2> laconic__: and for best results, remount read only, so nothing new has a chance to be written to the location of the old files, making them impossible to recover
[08:20] <peetaur2> mount -o remount,ro /
[08:20] <peetaur2> mount -o remount,rw /
[08:28] <laconic_> got disconnected for some reason, not sure what I've missed
[08:29] <laconic_> testdisk doesn't seem to be what I need
[08:29] <laconic_> that is, it appears it doesn't deal with file recovery
[08:29] <laconic_> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[08:32] <gnuoy> jamespage, are planning to do anything with Bug#1319909 today ? If not I'll grab it
[08:32] <jamespage> cbug 1319909
[08:32] <jamespage> bug 1319909
[08:33] <jamespage> gnuoy, please steal away - I'll sponsor your change if you like :-)
[08:33] <gnuoy> ta :-)
[08:40] <zetheroo1> I am trying to write a ping check script and this is what I have so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746087/
[08:44] <zetheroo1> I would like that if the ping is successful nothing happens, but that if the ping is not successful this command is passed: "virsh reset domain"
[08:44] <zetheroo1> how do I do this?
[08:49] <k1l> hi
[08:49] <zetheroo1> :)
[09:36] <DalekSec> .
[09:45] <histo> zetheroo1: use an if statement or a test
[09:47] <histo> zetheroo1: you could grep the output of ping for an Unreachable and if grep exits 0 then fire off your command
[09:52] <zetheroo1> histo: is what I already have no good?
[09:53] <histo> zetheroo1: well you aren't even testing ping
[09:54] <histo> zetheroo1: yeah that works nvm
[09:54] <histo> zetheroo1: sorry i'm tired
[09:54] <zetheroo1> histo: I thought "ping -c 1 <IP_ADDRESS>" is a picg check ...
[09:54] <zetheroo1> !?
[09:54] <zetheroo1> oh ok
[09:54] <histo> zetheroo1: you just have your exit status backwards imo
[09:54] <histo> zetheroo1: or echo
[09:55] <zetheroo1> I just don't know where to insert the "virsh reset domain" command
[09:56] <histo> zetheroo1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746376/
[09:57] <zetheroo1> wow ... it's that simple ...
[09:57] <zetheroo1> thanks
[09:58] <histo> zetheroo1: yes
[09:59] <histo> zetheroo1: don't really need the then though
[09:59] <histo> zetheroo1: unless you want to do something if it works
[09:59] <zetheroo1> I see
[09:59] <zetheroo1> is the 'Ping worked' written to some log?
[09:59] <zetheroo1> like ssylog?
[09:59] <zetheroo1> syslog *
[10:12] <histo> zetheroo1: how are you calling the script?
[10:13] <gnuoy> jamespage, this python-logutils is a funny one. The tests which are failing for python 3 relate to using dictionary based config which is part of standard python library as of python 3.2 & 2.7 so its only in the package in case your using an earlier version. Since we're trying to get the package into utopic the functionality and therefore the test seems irrelevant
[10:13] <zetheroo1> histo: it's part of a script run from crontab
[10:14] <histo> zetheroo1: well then remove teh echo 'It worked' and replace with    exit 0
[10:14] <jamespage> gnuoy, trusty is 2.7 only as well right?
[10:14] <gnuoy> I'm sure it is but I'll check
[10:15] <histo> zetheroo1: check /var/log/cron
[10:15] <zetheroo1> histo: so, like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7746422/
[10:15] <gnuoy> jamespage, yes, 2.7
[10:15] <histo> zetheroo1: yes if you don't care about output when the command worked
[10:17] <jamespage> gnuoy, well a distro only patch is probably acceptable; if you could make it backwards compat still and get it upstream that would be better
[10:18] <histo> zetheroo1: sorry this is ubuntu /var/log/syslog should log the job
[10:18] <zetheroo1> histo: ok :)
[10:29] <bitbyte_> does any one know, how I can remove a borken ppa:
[10:29] <bitbyte_> I added deluge by add-apt-repository ppa:deluge but I need to remove it now
[10:30] <peetaur2> bitbyte_: /etc/apt/sources.list    /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:30] <bitbyte_> see i checked the /etc/apt/sources.list and didnt see it listed
[10:30] <peetaur2> and the .d?
[10:31] <bitbyte_> and .d has nothing in it
[10:32] <bitbyte_> i’m trying to get rid of this silly error : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[10:32] <histo> !ppapurge | bitbyte_
[10:32] <bitbyte_> so install ppa purge and point it to deluge
[10:33] <bitbyte_> the orignal command was sudo add-apt-repository ppa:deluge-team/ppa
[10:33] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:35] <bitbyte_> all sorted guys thanks
[10:56] <k1l> !ops | nanaum spaming in pm
[11:01] <soren> k1l: How can I help?
[11:02] <k1l> nanaum: spaming adverts in pm. already confirmed in #ubuntu-ops channel.
[11:03] <soren> k1l: I understand the problem. How can I help?
[11:03] <Myrtti> foobar
[11:03] <doge> o.o
[11:04] <k1l> remove/ban the spamer. i already asked in several ops channels but no one seems to care and i dont have ops in here.
[11:05] <Myrtti> _o>
[11:05] <k1l> thanks
[11:43] <smb> rbasak, So I have the xen changes for uvtool in a local bzr branch. I believe push puts that out under my lp user. Remind me of what the other steps are to officially make that a "please have a look at the stuff". :)
[12:01] <gnuoy> jamespage, I have a fix for the tests. Would it be correct to propose the fix  against  the project in bitbucket, then try and get it accepted into debian and then pull down to ubuntu ?
[12:02] <jamespage> gnuoy, patch it into the package, and propose it upstream at the same time
[12:02] <jamespage> you can feed it back to debian as well
[12:02] <gnuoy> ack, thanks
[12:02] <jamespage> gnuoy, use patch headers to document this - DEP8 I think
[12:03] <gnuoy> ok
[12:50] <vila> hi there !
[12:50] <vila> I'm seeking some advice about mounting an image in a lxc container with qemu-nbd
[12:51] <rbasak> smb: go to code.launchpad.net/~smb, click on your branch and propose for merging from there.
[12:51] <rbasak> smb: note that I'm a bit tied up at the moment and I have a couple of MPs for uvtool pending already. Is it OK if it takes me a while to get back to you?
[12:51] <smb> rbasak, Yeah, it won't be world ending :)
[12:52] <rbasak> jamespage: FYI, juju-core 1.20 is reported to break juju-quickstart (bug 1337831) so I'll need to upload a fixed quickstart together with it.
[12:52] <vila> I've used lxc-device -n xx add /dev/nbd0 ; ran qemu-nbd -c inside the container and that created /dev/nbd0p1, so far so good
[12:53] <vila> but there, trying to mount /dev/nbd0p1 /tmp/mntpoint fails saying that 'mount: block device /dev/nbd0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only' and then 'mount: cannot mount block device /dev/nbd0p1 read-only'
[12:56] <gnuoy> jamespage, did you particularly want dep8 or is dep3 ok ? (I'm a bit underwhelmed by http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep8/)
[12:57] <rbasak> gnuoy: I think he meant dep3
[12:57] <gnuoy> rbasak, thanks
[13:13] <Goeland86> hi, I'm trying to run the android emulator through jenkins... Normally this should be window-less
[13:13] <Goeland86> but I keep getting errors about libGL
[13:14] <gnuoy> jamespage, I've created a mp with the fixes to the package https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/ubuntu/utopic/python-logutils/fix-tests/+merge/225661 . Do I just sit back and drink Mojitos now ?
[13:14] <Goeland86> either something about libGLES not being found, or the latest one, when I turn gpu off on the emulator, I get libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[13:14] <Goeland86> anyone know how I can fix the last one?
[14:06] <jrwren> http://discourse.ubuntu.com down for all or just me?
[14:08] <RoyK> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://discourse.ubuntu.com/
[14:55] <jamespage> gnuoy, sorry - was out for a bit
[14:55] <gnuoy> np
[15:54] <rbasak> kickinz1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1336742 looks like a good one for you to get started with when you have some time.
[15:56] <kickinz1> rbasak, thanks!
[16:00] <kickinz1> rbasak, I'll try when possible (coding right now)
[16:35] <z1haze> hello, would someone mind helping me out with a system load issue? i just logged into my server and it says "System information disabled due to load higher than 6.0" is that bad?
[16:37] <lordievader> z1haze: Depends: http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/hack-and-linux-troubleshooting-part-i-high-load
[16:38] <Patrickdk> load has almost no relevence anymore
[16:38] <Patrickdk> how many cpu cores do you have?
[16:39] <z1haze> what command doicheck with? cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l?
[16:39] <lordievader> z1haze: uptime, top, htop all show load.
[16:39] <z1haze> to se
[16:40] <lordievader> Load can be caused by many things.
[16:40] <z1haze> the cores*
[16:40] <z1haze> oh alright
[16:40] <z1haze> 12:40:38 up 5 days, 15:13,  1 user,  load average: 5.16, 6.12, 5.97
[16:40] <lordievader> z1haze: Read the link I gave you ;)
[16:41] <z1haze> Patrickdk I think its 6 cores
[16:41] <lordievader> Ah the cpucores, sorry misunderstood: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep processor|tail -n1
[16:41] <z1haze> says 5
[16:41] <Patrickdk> well, maxed out, but not overloaded
[16:41] <z1haze> but it starts at 0
[16:42] <z1haze> but that shouldnt be the case ever right?
[16:42] <Patrickdk> what shouldn't be the case?
[16:42] <Patrickdk> loadavg is how many programs are running
[16:42] <z1haze> my loadbeing maxxed out
[16:42] <Patrickdk> over the last 5 min, you had 5.16 programs running constantly
[16:42] <Patrickdk> so 5.16 cores of you cpu where in use
[16:42] <Patrickdk> that isn't overloaded
[16:42] <Patrickdk> but it is almost loaded
[16:43] <Patrickdk> the issue with loadavg is it doesn't take into account how many cpu's you have
[16:43] <Patrickdk> so if you where on a single cpu system
[16:43] <Patrickdk> it would be like you had a load of 0.8
[16:43] <z1haze> so this load isnt something to worry about?
[16:43] <Patrickdk> that depends
[16:44] <Patrickdk> in general, it's not bad, assuming it is really suppost to be that busy :)
[16:44] <Patrickdk> but it's not, overloaded
[16:44] <lordievader> z1haze: A load of 5 on a single core is a problem. A load of 5 on a 6 core machine, no problem.
[16:44] <Patrickdk> as long as whatever was running, is ligit
[16:44] <Patrickdk> and working properly
[16:45] <z1haze> thats what i wish i knew, crap
[16:45] <z1haze> im by far not a system admin of any sorts i dont know really anything about it
[16:45] <z1haze> I just lease this machine
[16:46] <lordievader> Read the link I gave you, z1haze. ;)
[16:46] <z1haze> oh i have been, but its foreign language looking to me lol
[16:47] <z1haze> i have 16gb free of RAM and tons of hd space left
[16:51] <z1haze> anyone have tim to help me track this down on this fine 4th of july?
[16:53] <TJ-> z1haze: run something like 'top' or 'htop' to see the load individual processes are causing
[16:54] <z1haze> yea i have those i was just looking at it, im looking at the %CPU?
[16:58] <z1haze> i have like multiplace things that show the same thing twice? can i close some without hurting my programs? http://puu.sh/9WH6c/4367181fe1.png
[16:58] <bluephoenix71> Hi all, could anyone assist on my query regarding ubuntu 14.04 LTS on VMware, Vmware running on mac osx maverick
[16:59] <bluephoenix71> my question is regarding running free radius and daloradius in ubuntu server 14.04
[17:00] <bluephoenix71> I have followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryNetworking/daloRADIUS
[17:00] <Patrickdk> exactly how to you run a company on mac osx?
[17:00] <bluephoenix71> I am doing this on a virtual environment first before I deploy it live.
[17:02] <bluephoenix71> during the installation process, I was able to follow the instructions up to the end except when accessing the daloradius via my mac safari browser
[17:02] <bluephoenix71> the page is not found...
[17:11] <z1haze> does anyone know if the java -server argument is necessary in java 8?
[17:11] <Patrickdk> dunno
[17:12] <Patrickdk> but java is never *necessary* :)
[17:12] <z1haze> ?
[17:12]  * Patrickdk hates all things java
[17:12] <z1haze> ah
[17:12] <z1haze> well my game servers eat a LOT of java
[17:13] <lordievader> From what I've heard Minecraft is horrible in resource management.
[17:13] <z1haze> its terrible, im pretty sure
[17:14] <z1haze> can you explain this ss to me though? http://puu.sh/9WI7v/30ce13d136.png why are there ao many of the same thing and some are 64% then the next one is 38% they all are in total well over 100% i dont understand
[17:14] <lordievader> Multiple threads, most likely.
[17:14] <Patrickdk> heh
[17:14] <Patrickdk> the game servers probably dont
[17:14] <Patrickdk> but anything java eats a lot of cpu :)
[17:14] <Patrickdk> why I dislike it
[17:15] <z1haze> and RAM
[17:16] <Patrickdk> rarely have the ram issue, but ya
[17:16] <z1haze> well minecraft uses a ton of RAM
[17:16] <z1haze> my modded servers take at minimum 8gb
[17:17] <z1haze> i wish i knew how to 'optimize' a system
[17:18] <lordievader> Step one, remove all java :P
[17:18] <z1haze> yea, well optimize and KEEP my games lol
[17:22] <bluephoenix71> hi, anyone who has encountered same problems in installing freeradius and daloradius in ubuntu14.04 LTS?
[17:22] <bluephoenix71> is this the right channel if not can someone point me to the right one?
[17:31] <Patrickdk> it's an ok channel, but too rare a program for someone to likely know
[17:50] <imarcusthis> Trying to get uvt-kvm to work with a bridge and a vlan, but I can’t seem to get DHCP in the guest. Any ideas?
[17:50] <imarcusthis> (created a br0, added eth0.31 to it, and feeding that as the —bridge parameter to create)
[17:51] <imarcusthis> I can run dhclient directly on the bridge, and it will get an IP.
[17:55] <imarcusthis> never mind, it just suddenly worked this time. Not sure wtf I did wrong the first time.
[21:33] <bluephoenix71> hi
[21:34] <bluephoenix71> anyone encountered this issue when installing freeradius and daloradius in ubuntu 14.04 LTS? Using this link as guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryNetworking/daloRADIUS
[21:37] <bluephoenix71> issue is that when you http to the server, it's saying
[21:37] <bluephoenix71> The requested URL /daloradius.php was not found on this server.  Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80
[22:35] <bluephoenix> any takers on the issue of daloradius?


[03:26] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[07:03] <Haxxa> Just upgraded to 20.04, first impressions its decent.
[10:28] <takov751> Greetings . I am just a regular tester. I have found a small problem with one of the python3 package. The one called `python3-parted` . The package itself a bit outdated. And i tried upgrade it from `pip3` ,however the `libparted` got renamed in the repo to `libparted2` . I am looking for any solution or advice where to head from here. Is there any
[10:28] <takov751> general solution ,like aliasing so when pkg-config looks for the library it will be there with both names,however this would bring other problems.
[14:21] <takov751> resolved . I had to install libparted-dev. However the pyparted still fails to build from pip3.
[14:30] <takov751> All problem solved. Case closed.


[01:42] <jphilips> i'm trying to install all the community wallpapers and tried this but it didn't work : sudo apt install xubuntu-community-wallpapers-*
[01:47] <jphilips> DarkTrick: where would i see the side effect of that change?
[08:34] <DarkTrick> jphilips, I'm not sure what you mean by "side effect". But the main effect is, that ▲ would sort a-z (new) instead of z-a (old)
[08:40] <jphilips> DarkTrick: oh okay. i see windows is using that icon for that order as well.
[08:44] <DarkTrick> jphilips, I'm aware, that there is a lot about this topic ( see references-section in first post: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/2852 ).
[08:44] <jphilips> dolphin uses the current icon with the old sort
[08:45] <DarkTrick> My argument is if windows,mac,the internet  are using ▲ for a-z, we should be externally consistent and follow that.
[08:45] <DarkTrick> (couldn't check mac, so far)
[08:55] <jphilips> well yes ideally we should do the same. do you know if there is a bug report for this as well on the kde side?
[09:25] <DarkTrick> jphilips, sorry I have no idea
[21:49] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-dev-tools 4.15.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-dev-tools-4-15-0-released-tp59238.html (by Romain Bouvier)
[22:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh, ditto here regarding my conversation with ochosi in #xfce-dev. :P
[22:50] <ochosi> did i say something wrong again? :)
[22:55] <Unit193> Nope, ubot93 stuff.
[22:56] <ochosi> ah that one