[00:33] <DeltaEpsilon> how do I list all folders with a certain tag?/
[00:35] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: what do you mean exactly?
[00:35] <DeltaEpsilon> if you go to the properties window of a folder, you can set tags for a folder
[00:36] <DeltaEpsilon> I want to list all folders that has the same tag
[00:39] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: what kind of tag?
[00:39] <DeltaEpsilon> SIR_Taco: try it youself and you will see
[00:40] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: ok... fine... but how are you searching by tag?
[00:41] <OerHeks> sort on part of name, date, or else ?
[00:41] <DeltaEpsilon> SIR_Taco: that is what I trying to figure out
[00:41] <DeltaEpsilon> :\
[00:41] <SIR_Taco> ah ok
[00:44] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: you can't select: Edit -> Find -> select Content -> and add the Tag there?
[00:44] <SIR_Taco> in Dolphin, I'm talking about
[00:46] <DeltaEpsilon> SIR_Taco: I figured out how it works
[00:46] <SIR_Taco> ok
[00:46] <DeltaEpsilon> I have to use the Information panel
[00:46] <DeltaEpsilon> then click on the tag name
[00:46] <SIR_Taco> ah, ok
[00:46] <DeltaEpsilon> that will show all folders with the same tag
[00:46] <DeltaEpsilon> quite useful
[00:47] <SIR_Taco> I did it through Dolphin and searched "image" and it brought up all pictures in my home folder
[00:47] <DeltaEpsilon> but it is pain in the ass to go to the property window to add a new tag
[00:47] <DeltaEpsilon> think I have to use the Information panel
[00:49] <SIR_Taco> DeltaEpsilon: you can always suggest a better option
[01:21] <prower> hello :> i'm having a strange problem with kgpg...it starts fine, everything appears to  be normal, but when i try to generate a new key pair it fails on the actual generation step, without a helpful error message...has anyone else seen this?
[01:24] <SIR_Taco> prower: have you tried running kgpg from konsole? might give you some error messages that will help
[01:24] <prower> SIR_Taco: Hmm... gpg-agent is not available for this session...gpg-agent is installed, though...
[01:25] <SIR_Taco> should just be able to type kgpg
[01:26] <prower> SIR_Taco, oh, that's what i did, yes :> that was the error message in the console
[01:27] <SIR_Taco> what error? if it's more than one line, paste to paste.kde.org
[01:28] <prower> gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session
[01:28] <prower> I also get it if I run gpg by itself in the console
[01:30] <SIR_Taco> is "gnupg-agent" installed?
[01:33] <prower> SIR_Taco, you must have missed what i said before :> gnupg-agent is definitely installed
[01:35] <SIR_Taco> prower: interesting... I get the same error
[01:35] <SIR_Taco> what version of Kubuntu and KDE are you running?
[01:36] <prower> SIR_Taco, no idea what's causing it either, worked fine in 10.10, strace doesn't tell me anything useful...kubuntu 11.04 (64-bit) with the latest updates installed for kde 4.6.2, default repositories
[01:37] <SIR_Taco> prower: well I'm on 11.10 and KDE 4.6.3 and get the same error... mine seems to be a dbus error though
[01:39] <prower> SIR_Taco, Odd...so I guess it's not related to the KDE version then, I was using it in fedora 15 (4.6.3) and never had the same problem
[01:40] <SIR_Taco> honestly I'm not entirely sure... I know it doesn't work for me (for whatever reason)... might be something it depends on that I'm not aware of
[01:42] <prower> SIR_Taco, it's a mystery to me as well, though thanks for checking it out :> gpg seems to work fine otherwise
[01:42] <SIR_Taco> not a problem, very odd
[01:49] <uberfrau> hi guys, having a problem with a panel, it somehow jumped to top, and for some reason there's a panel inside a panel? o.o how do i move it back down to the bottom? >.<
[01:51] <SIR_Taco> uberfrau: and now there's no panel at the bottom? or you have an extra one at the top?
[01:52] <uberfrau> SIR_Taco: a panel on top and bottom, the one on bottom is default, but i want my major running programs back where they were before, in the default panel on the bottom
[01:52] <uberfrau> and i closed the weird panels that were inside the panel that moved to the top
[01:53] <prower> SIR_Taco, it's a part of kdeutils so i'll probably file a bug on launchpad if i get a chance, there isn't one there already oddly enough
[01:54] <SIR_Taco> prower: good idea, hopefully it's solved soon
[01:56] <SIR_Taco> uberfrau: ok, if you click the ugly cashew thingy on the panel (bottom right), you should be able to drag your "task manager" (holding your open windows) from the top taskbar to the bottom. If not, you can always do "add widgets" add  "Task Manager" to the bottom and remove it from the top
[01:57] <uberfrau> sec :/
[02:00] <uberfrau> how do i fix the 'screen edge' setting to fill out the full horizontal length of the screen?
[02:01] <uberfrau> nvm figured it out
[02:01] <uberfrau> the centre thing has to be on the black line first
[02:01] <SIR_Taco> yep
[02:02] <SIR_Taco> get it all sorted out?
[02:02] <uberfrau> think so, have to re-add a couple of widgets, sec
[02:02] <uberfrau> i've been using kubuntu for a couple of months, but i don't play around with settings at all so >_>
[02:03] <SIR_Taco> no problem
[02:16] <EagleScreen> "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase ~/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase" ask me a passphrase insted if showing me one, is it the expected behavior??
[02:48] <uberfrau> another question: how can i move a tab within task manager over? my monitor is defective, so i want to move a specific task over to where i can see it when it lights up
[02:55] <OerHeks> how do you read my answer, uberfrau ?
[02:55] <uberfrau> what? X_X
[02:56] <OerHeks> ah your monitor is not defective
[02:59] <uberfrau> o.o
[02:59] <uberfrau> there is a 5 cm wide vertical band of lines
[02:59] <uberfrau> the monitor is defective
[02:59] <uberfrau> how do i move a task over within the task manager
[03:04] <OerHeks> alt tab or scrollwheel when hoovering over taskmanager
[03:13] <uberfrau> no, i don't mean to cycle through them
[03:13] <uberfrau> i mean to move the location of a task within the taskbar >_<
[03:43] <uberfrau> anyone?
[04:33] <cjae> Hi, is the an opensource wifi driver packaged with 11.04 kubuntu yet?
[04:34] <genii-around> cjae: Depends who makes your wifi hardware, I suppose
[04:34] <cjae> sorry that should say broadcomm
[04:35] <cjae> my typing is horrible tonight
[04:35] <cjae> I know there was supposed be an opensurce release coming but not sure if it there yet
[04:36] <cjae> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/broadcom-releasing-fully-open-source-driver-wifi-driver/
[04:38] <genii-around> cjae: My onboard Broadcom 4313 is currently using the brcmsmac driver
[04:38] <Daskreech> cjae: do they have one yet?
[04:40] <cjae> genii-around: so I assume that is the not open source, I have to install the STA right away if there is no substitute
[04:41] <mr-rich> Anyone get in iPhone to connect to kubuntu 11.04 (amarok)?
[04:41] <cjae> Daskreech: thats what I was trying to ask
[04:42] <Daskreech> cjae: I'll check
[04:42] <cjae> Daskreech: cool
[04:43] <genii-around> cjae: It is the open-source driver, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[04:45] <genii-around> I'm connecting with it right now :) http://pastebin.ca/2075371 shows my lshw results for it
[04:45] <darnell>  Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to add an LTSP client to my PXE install server??
[04:48] <darnell> i have a netboot server for installing but i would like to add the option to go to another server for LTSP
[04:49] <cjae> thanks guys
[04:50] <cjae> girls*?
[04:50] <rww> people* ;P
[04:55] <cjae> lol
[04:55] <cjae> peeps
[04:56] <cjae> ok so I have the BRCM80211 module loaded, but the card is a bcm43225
[05:09] <fayaz> have a quassel doubt
[05:10] <fayaz> how do i automate "/msg NickServ identify <password>" action?
[05:11] <rww> fayaz: on freenode, or on other IRC networks?
[05:12] <fayaz> rww on freenode...
[05:12] <rww> fayaz: Settings -> Configure Quassel -> Networks -> [select network] -> Auto Identify -> Use SASL Authentication
[05:12] <rww> (many networks don't use SASL, hence the question)
[05:12] <fayaz> okay thanks! :)
[05:13]  * fayaz is trying it out
[05:13] <fayaz> rww: it worked! :)
[05:14] <rww> :)
[06:08] <ilias> hi all. is there any way to setup my onboard pci agere modem to use it as fax under 10.04?
[06:10] <genii-around> ilias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax  however, this is assuming it has some driver which works. Many are "winmodem" kinds
[06:13] <ilias> i know that the most of modems are winmodem kind and that's the problem, but i am wondering if todays linux is capable to setup them easy.
[06:15] <genii-around> ilias: You can try the scanmodem tool
[06:15] <genii-around> !scanmodem
[06:15] <genii-around> Hm
[06:15] <ilias> is this the scanmodel? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/ScanModem
[06:16] <genii-around> ilias: Yes, you get the app from the linmodem site, run it and then examine the output file it makes, so that you can see if there is some known existing driver, etc
[06:28] <ilias> ok. i run scanmodem and was created the A subfolder Modem/  has been written,  containing these files with more detailed Information:1stRead.txt  Bootup.txt  dmesg.txt  DOCs  ModemData.txt  scanout.00:1e.3  tmp and in the DOCs subfolder: DriverCompiling.txt  InfoGeneral.txt  Intel.txt    Rational.txtSmartlink.txt        SoftModem.txt    Testing.txt  UNSUBSCRIBE.txtwvdial.txt           YourSystem.txt
[06:28] <ilias> what next know?
[06:30] <genii-around> ilias: The relevant file is usually ModemData.txt to look at
[06:31] <genii-around> ilias: Can you pastebin it?
[06:32] <ilias> !paste
[06:34] <ilias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619636/
[06:34] <genii-around> Reading
[06:35] <genii-around> ilias: Looks like it can use the slmodemd
[06:36] <genii-around> !info sl-modem-daemon
[06:36] <ilias> yes that is what i am reading too. what to do?
[06:38] <genii-around> ilias: So then, to enable the restricted repository, install sl-modem-daemon, see if you can use an app like kppp to query it with AT commands ( reboot may be needed after sl-modem-daemon install for it to recognize upon boot )
[06:39] <ilias> do i have to go with the command sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon?
[06:41] <genii-around> ilias: First make sure "restricted" repository is enabled, but then yes
[06:41] <genii-around> ( after possibl;y also sudo apt-get update )
[06:42] <ilias> how can i make sure restricted repository is enabled?
[06:42] <genii-around> !restricted
[06:43] <genii-around> !repos
[06:43] <ilias> i have already use it for restrictedd formats. is that enough?
[06:43] <genii-around> ilias: What says result of: grep restricted /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <genii-around> ?
[06:44] <ilias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619639/
[06:45] <genii-around> ilias: Yeah, yer good to go that way
[06:45] <ilias> enable sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon?
[06:46] <genii-around> Yup
[06:47] <ilias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619641/
[06:47] <ilias> do i need i reboot? ande then what?
[06:48] <genii-around> ilias: Your modem looks like it might be immediately available on /dev/ttySL0
[06:49] <ilias> ok. how can i check this? and how can i go with fax? you 're very helpful indeed and i i have to give you 1000 thanks in advance!
[06:49] <ilias> and the most important, you know the procedure.
[06:51] <genii-around> ilias: To check if it is responding: sudo screen /dev/ttySL0       and then type in: ATZ     and see if you get a response
[06:51] <genii-around> ( to exit screen program, ctrl-a and then uppercase K )
[06:52] <ilias> ATZ=OK
[06:52] <genii-around> ilias: Great, it works
[06:52] <ilias> you 're Master!
[06:52] <ilias> what to do know? efax-gtk?
[06:52] <ilias> install it?
[06:53] <genii-around> ilias: It appears to be the preferred application, yes. Although I have not actually used it, so cannot assist with it's use much
[06:53] <genii-around> ilias: We do know however at this time: your modem works and is found at /dev/ttySL0
[06:54] <ilias> ok. how can quit this screen. ctrl-aK?
[06:54] <genii-around> Ah, wait
[06:54] <genii-around> !info kfax
[06:55] <ilias> ok i idt, i exited the screen
[06:55] <genii-around> ilias: ctrl-a together, then upper-case K
[06:55] <ilias> ok i did it. thanks. so what software to choise?
[06:56] <ilias> kfax is not bad i think. will it work?
[06:56] <genii-around> ilias: Since Kubuntu, i would recommend kfax
[06:57] <genii-around> ilias: I am installing it myself right now, to see it's interface
[06:57] <ilias> yea i have the same opinion. under kde is better to use kde applications
[06:58] <genii-around> Hm, it does not seem very intuitive
[06:59] <ilias> i just want to send and revieve, nothing more special
[07:00] <ilias> the simplier the better
[07:01] <genii-around> ilias: Apologies, it seems to be only a viewer :( Probably to go then with the recommended efax-gtk
[07:01] <ilias> oh ok. i c. maybe. so what next?
[07:02] <ilias> http://www.kde.org/applications/graphics/kfax/ yes its a viewer only
[07:03] <ilias> http://ksendfax.sourceforge.net/ this is to send
[07:04] <genii-around> !info ksendfax
[07:04] <ilias> very old version!
[07:04] <genii-around> !info ksendfax lucid
[07:04] <ilias> !efax-gtk
[07:06] <ilias> does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1571568
[07:07] <ilias> why are you afraid to go with efax-gtk?
[07:08] <ilias> http://efax-gtk.sourceforge.net/
[07:10] <genii-around> ilias: I have just installed the efax-gtk, it seems usable.
[07:10] <ilias> ok. go with sudo apt-get install efax-gtk?
[07:11] <ilias> do you install it on kubuntu?
[07:12] <genii-around> ilias: Sure!
[07:12] <ilias> so i am getting the command
[07:13] <ilias> that's it it finished
[07:13] <ilias> it is under Office
[07:16] <ilias> i came near the thelephone box to try
[07:17] <ilias> !paste
[07:20] <ilias> i am calling my phone but efax doesnt do anything? what to do?
[07:23] <ilias> i tried also to send a file and i got this message: Socket running on port 9900GPL Ghostscript 8.71: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1Not valid postscript file
[07:25] <ilias> i went to settings and i change /dev/ttySL1 (default) to SL0.
[07:26] <jussi> Hrm, how does one turn on ctrl+alt+backspace for loggging out?
[07:28] <ilias> i am going for a rebbot and i am coming back to see if we make it work.
[07:36] <ilias> well efax doesn't work. why?
[07:37] <ilias> genii: help me Master plz!
[07:42] <ilias> !paste
[07:42] <ilias> !paste
[07:43] <ilias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/619665/
[07:49] <ilias1> well. can anyone help me?
[08:10] <ilias1> how can i remove a non empty dir?
[08:10] <ilias1> using terminal
[08:10] <ilias1> ?
[08:12] <ilias> ok i found it
[08:27] <genii-around> ilias: Apologies, fell asleep at computer. I need to rest but will return to channel in about 6 to 7 hours
[08:32] <ilias> ok. i need ur help to setup efax because i got errors although it opens /dev/ttyS0. i got these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619688/ and the efax does not answer or dial.
[08:34] <susundberg> google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 ?
[09:50] <ilias> how can i save a *.rc file under /etc?
[09:50] <ilias> after i edited?
[09:55] <ArchangelSe7en> ilias, are you on Kubuntu ??
[09:55] <ArchangelSe7en> "sudo kate &"
[09:56] <ArchangelSe7en> copy the content of your first file into the window that come up and save it there
[09:56] <ilias> yep. i found a way. i copy the *.rc file in my /home/temp and then i am trying to copy the new file in etc using sudo
[09:57] <ArchangelSe7en> sudo cp <path to file> <path to destination>
[09:57] <ilias> ok.thanks
[09:57] <ArchangelSe7en> with no "<>" ofcs
[09:57] <ArchangelSe7en> you're welcome
[10:02] <ilias> well i did what another user said here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 but i am still getting the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619730/. any idea?
[10:13] <PaowZ> hello there, I can't find ibus preferences, where is it actually ? :)
[11:12] <gribouille> hi
[11:13] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ? X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:14] <gribouille> I have a problem with X : yesterday, the screen resolution was 1280x1024, and today, it is 1024x768. Of couse, I didn't change the configuration. Does someone know what to do ?
[11:14] <szal> !repeat
[11:17] <ilias>  maybe here any body can help me about efax-gtk.  i did what another user said here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 but i am still getting the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619730/. my modem is already setup and sudo screen /dev/ttySL0 and then ATX gives ok. any idea?
[11:27] <ilias> why although driver's modem is installed and Kppp can communicate with the modem efax cannot do it and gives errors?
[11:53] <DeltaEpsilon> what does the dotted check mean in Quassel? see screenshot http://imageshack.us/f/705/snapshot2o.png/
[11:58] <OerHeks> DeltaEpsilon, dotted check shows your current irc channel
[11:59] <DeltaEpsilon> don't think so
[12:10] <lcb> Hi
[12:11] <kleopatra> my guis look very angular what package do i have to install to make it look better? (i had this package once installed but alwasy forget the name)
[12:13] <Apple_Cat> kleopatra: What do you mean?... Are you talking about how fonts are rendered?
[12:14] <lcb> Anyone know how to return desktops to original/previous settings (wallpapers, FolderView/s, Icons, etc) after losing. How did I lose it?! I opened a "New Activity", then calceled it and.... everything went away.
[12:14] <kleopatra> Apple_Cat: not the fonts , those are ok. But eg my PushButtons are angular, id like to have some smooth curves instead.
[12:15] <Apple_Cat> kleopatra: Ohhh ok, I think you don't have to install anything then you can just change a few settings in system settings
[12:17] <kleopatra> Apple_Cat: well i doubt this somehow, i have oxygen activated and the kde-things look quite finne eg the systemsetting window, but codeblocks and firefox look like as they would use gtk+ style
[12:19] <Apple_Cat> kleopatra: I think firefox has a QT package
[12:20] <kleopatra> Apple_Cat: its more than just those 2 applications unfortunately, eclipse looks so codeblocks and many more
[12:25] <rethus1> if i try to delete some files in dolphin (ftp-connection) i got the error, Permission denied on trash://
[12:25] <rethus1> whats wrong hereß
[12:30] <Apple_Cat> kleopatra: What graphics drivers are you using? Or it's really just a case of gtk being used?
[12:31] <Apple_Cat> kleopatra: Probably gtk is looking quite bad if it's not installed completely/properly...
[12:46] <Ddpbf> if you want gtk apps to look native in kde
[12:46] <Ddpbf> install oxygen-gtk
[12:47] <Ddpbf> for firefox install oxigen-firefox
[12:51] <soee> hmm if i press alt+f2 search box shows up at the top of the screen, is it possible to do the same with notes widget ?
[13:12] <maiqiang>  hi everyone! Back so soon with another question.  I am trying to install an HP LaserJet 1020.  I've downloaded hplip-3.11.5.run and successfully installed it as per the directions (very excellent directions) on the hplip website.  However, when it opens the HP-Setup program I get stuck at step 2 when it asks for my administrative password, which it doesn't recognize.  I checked that it hadn't somehow been changed by running a sudo command in Konsole.  No pr
[13:15] <ilias> maybe someone can help me with efax-gtk.  i did what another user said here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 but i am still getting the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619730/. my modem is already setup and sudo screen /dev/ttySL0 and then ATX gives ok. any idea?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:37] <sebastiano> hi, did I fresh install of 11.04 and I am getting no internet over eth0, any ideas?
[13:38] <sebastiano> it works fine on my laptop, so I suppose it's a driver issue with the network card... is that possible?
[13:38] <sebastiano> how do I know which network card I got?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> sebastiano, in the terminal,  sudo ifconfig up
[14:00] <Tauop> hi
[14:00] <Tauop> how can i join a jabber groupchat with kopete ?
[14:01] <Tauop> my version is Version 0.80.2 on KDE  4.3.2
[14:03] <ilias> BluesKaj: maybe could you help me?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ilias, well, ask your question , I'll try
[14:07] <ilias> i need a help with efax-gtk.  i did what another user said here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 but i am still getting the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619730/. my modem is already setup and sudo screen /dev/ttySL0 and then ATX gives ok. any idea?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ilias, sorry I have no idea about fax machines on linux pcs...ours is connected thru the w7 pc
[14:23] <tkteun> I have a question: Is there anyone that has got network-manager-openvpn working?
[14:23] <tkteun> I want to connect to a tap/bridged network and can't manage to get a tap0 interface. First off, the openvpn group/user didn't exist so I created them.
[14:23] <tkteun> Now I need a clear guide about how the network-manager needs permissions to the tun/tap interface or something.
[14:23] <ilias> τροθγη ςιν ισ σο εασυ
[14:23] <ncfi1013> hi
[14:23] <ilias> through win is so easy
[14:23] <Pici> !gr
[14:24] <ncfi1013> i wonder if you can tell me something...
[14:26] <ncfi1013> how do i delete a directory that has a hidden directory lock file in it...file looks something like this: .directory.lock.nx1767?
[14:42] <tkteun> lsof
[14:43] <tkteun> kill the process that locks the file
[14:44] <ncfi1013> nevermind figured it out thanks
[14:44] <ncfi1013> whats lsof mean?
[14:45] <susundberg> list all open files
[14:45] <susundberg> let me google that for you ..
[14:45] <ncfi1013> just easier to ask here and then learn more later...thanks
[15:03] <dnk> #airdump.net
[15:12] <drbobb> guys, I'm using yakuake in kubuntu 11.04, and I can't modify the terminal profiles, like changing fonts & stuff
[15:13] <drbobb> well actually I can but the changes aren't saved, it's back to the old default after a logout
[15:28] <kleopatra_> what do i have to install exactly to make gtk applications look native in kde?
[15:39] <shadeslayer> kleopatra_: install oxygen-gtk from the repos
[15:41] <kleopatra_> shadeslayer whats the exact name? i cant find oxygen-gtk
[15:42] <kleopatra_> oxygen-cursor-theme         oxygen-cursor-theme-extra   oxygen-icon-theme           oxygen-icon-theme-complete  oxygen-molecule
[15:42] <shadeslayer> !search oxygen-gtk
[15:42] <ilias> genii-around: r u ready to help me with the fax?
[15:42] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:43] <shadeslayer> !info gtk2-engines-oxygen | kleopatra_
[15:43] <genii-around> ilias: As I can  :) I am connecting from work, so please expect sometimes large lag while boss needs me
[15:44] <kleopatra_> shadeslayer , it is installed already but still my applications look ugly angular
[15:44] <shadeslayer> kleopatra_: did you change the theme in systemsettings?
[15:44] <ilias> ok. no probl with that. well the news is that  i did what another user said here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=536854 but i am still getting the same errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/619730/. the modem as u remember is already setup and sudo screen /dev/ttySL0 and then ATX gives ok.
[15:45] <kleopatra_> shadeslayer systemsetting -> application appearance = oxygen
[15:45] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:46] <shadeslayer> huh
[15:46] <shadeslayer> kleopatra_: there used to be a gtk applications option there
[15:47] <shadeslayer> i don't see it anymore on KDE Trunk
[15:49] <kleopatra_> shadeslayer dont find any option there
[15:49] <shadeslayer> yeah thats what i'm thinking as well
[15:50] <shadeslayer> kleopatra_: basically : http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/11/oxygen-gtk.html
[15:52] <genii-around> ilias: line 2 of your paste shows it's trying to use /dev/ttyS0 instead of the /dev/ttySL0 that slmodem made
[15:54] <ilias> really. actually is ttySL0 and not ttyS0. i am going to change it
[15:59] <genii-around> ilias: There is a line reading:  DEVICE: ttyS0      or similar to change in /etc/efax-gtkrc
[16:00] <ilias> i changed both settings and efax-gtkrc. now the message is efax-0.9a: 17:59:21 Warning: /dev/ttySL0 locked or busy - waiting (4 times)
[16:04] <genii-around> ilias: What says result of command: sudo lsof | grep ttySL0
[16:06] <ilias> nothing. the system thinks and answers nothing!
[16:16] <genii-around> ilias: Does file in /var/lock exist with ttySL0 in name?
[16:17] <ilias>  /var/lock is empty
[16:18] <jimmy51_> !qtparted
[16:18] <jimmy51_> !info qtparted
[16:18] <jimmy51_> what do people use (ui based) for parted these days in kubuntu?
[16:19] <genii-around> !partition
[16:20] <genii-around> ilias: ls -l /dev/ttySL0        please
[16:20] <jimmy51_> genii-around: ah, thanks.
[16:23] <ilias> system answered: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2011-06-06 09:31 /dev/ttySL0 -> /dev/pts/1 and efax still gives the same error efax-0.9a: 17:59:21 Warning: /dev/ttySL0 locked or busy - waiting
[16:26] <genii-around> ilias: It is a symbolic link then. What says ls -l /dev/pts/1                   ...we want to see the groupname here and then see if your user belongs to that group, like dialout
[16:27] <ilias> crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 136, 1 2011-06-06 12:58 /dev/pts/1
[16:29] <ilias> i think you are close to solve it!
[16:31] <genii-around> ilias: grep $(whoami) /etc/group | grep dialout
[16:32] <genii-around> ilias: If you are in dialout group will be some result, if you are not in group, just return to command prompt
[16:32] <ilias> dialout:x:20:user
[16:32] <ilias> probably i am in dialout group.
[16:32] <genii-around> ilias: Yes, looks like
[16:33] <ilias> so what next? why efax insists with errors?
[16:36] <genii-around> ilias: I'm not sure :( And unfortunately I am also running out of ideas to approach the problem
[16:37] <ilias> oh my God...i cannot believe it. you know so many things. i know very well that fax/modem setup in linux is a very difficult case. but i see that you almost know everything
[16:38] <ilias> maybe a reboot is needed?
[16:41] <ilias> is it possible to have a conflict with any other device? does dmesg or lspci can help you think something more?
[16:44] <genii-around> ilias: I suspect currently some permissions issue. What is result of command: groups
[16:45] <jjjjoe> I'm on Kubuntu 11.04.  LibreOffice is caught in a recovery loop and it will not stop asking to recover a file.  How do I get rid of this?
[16:46] <ilias> user adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[16:47] <genii-around> ilias: Hm, all looks ok there
[16:47] <ilias> yes i can see that
[16:53] <dodo> ollo
[16:54] <ilias> Kppp can communicate with modem.
[16:56] <ilias> http://www.mailrepository.com//ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/2471584/
[16:56] <genii-around> ilias: Do you have modem-manager installed?
[16:57] <ilias> no, i dont think so
[16:58] <ilias> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/faxing-problem-with-usb-56kmodem-476231/
[16:59] <genii-around> ilias: I think to make it do a log and then look at the log. In /etc/efax-gtkrc  there is a line: #LOG:    which maybe make like: LOG: /home/user/efax-log          then run it again, after exit see whats in the log
[16:59] <aaronth> so no unity on for kde?
[17:01] <aaronth> or 11.10 alpha 1?
[17:02] <ilias> no log file!
[17:05] <ilias> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/efax-gtk/+bug/491275
[17:06] <greywalk> hello. if i remove the message indicator applet from the tray, will i see the icons of konversation and kopete? or will they be removed with the applet?
[17:07] <ilias> i am going for a reboot. sometimes the solution is in front of our eyes. i dont have many hopes but never knows. i am quiting and coming back in 3 mins.
[17:11] <ArchangelSe7en> they should stay greywalk
[17:12] <ilias> genii-around: you are a maste and genious. a 1000 thanks. after reboot it works!!!efax-0.9a: 19:11:08 opened /dev/ttySL0efax-0.9a: 19:11:09 using modem:1 in class 1efax-0.9a: 19:11:09 waiting for activity
[17:13] <ilias> well as you can see the reboot solve the case
[17:13] <genii-around> ilias: Glad to see it's finally working! Although I cannot really claim credit. Pleased to have helped.
[17:15] <ilias> wait know for a little more help. first i try to dial and to recieve a call. 2nd to you know how can i save *.ps files. OOo i read that it can but i didnt find anything
[17:19] <ilias> i am calling my self but i cannot answer the call. either i hear any ring!
[17:23] <ilias> ok now the efax answered the call. but there is no sign that someone is calling me. after 15 secs closed the line.
[17:25] <genii-around> ilias: If you don't mind the modem sounds, you can put option like M1 or M2 for modem initialization, this keeps the monitor on so you can hear it talking to other things
[17:26] <genii-around> ilias: I have some construction happening in my office in about 20-25 minutes and so will be off the computer
[17:27] <ilias> ok. i will wait for your super advises
[17:27] <ilias> thanks in advance
[18:42] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, ping
[18:43] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: hi
[18:43] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, hi :) my kernel crashed today and my wifi stopped working again :( I am on ubuntu right now, is there any way to fix it?
[18:43] <genii-around> ilias: Did you manage to get anywhere yet with the faxing?
[18:45] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: since deploying my work around I have not had any issue with wireless
[18:46] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, any suggestions :(
[18:46] <c2tarun> what should I do?
[18:46] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: whats the output of this cmd lsmod | grep wl
[18:46] <bigbrovar> and this lsmod  | grep bcm
[18:47] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, first output
[18:48] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/620124/
[18:49] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, and nothing on grep bcm
[18:49] <bigbrovar> hmmm
[18:49] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: what about ifconfig
[18:50] <bigbrovar> btw did u install any upgrade recently?
[18:50] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, nope
[18:50] <bigbrovar> ok whats the output of ifconfig
[18:53] <kobus> my knetworkmanager seems to be broken. Anybody with experience with knetworkmanager?
[18:56] <kobus> i defined some network configurations but after a reboot today the configs are no longer listed when i click on the networkmanager applet in the system tray
[18:56] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, ifconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/620130/
[18:58] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: wireless hardware seems to be detected.  which network manager are u using? still the gnome version or kde version, and also what happens when u try to connect to wireless. is the wireless led indicator for the laptop on?
[18:59] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, yeah wireless is on, and I am using gnome's n/w manager.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> kobus, what kind of connection , ethernet ot wifi ?
[18:59] <kobus> BluesKaj: ethernet
[19:01] <c2tarun> bigbrovar, any idea? I am just fedup of this ubuntu kernel issue with broadcom wifi :( what should I do?
[19:01] <kobus> BluesKaj: I added a fixed ip config for some course i'm on and when i tried to select the config knetworkmanager kept on crashing
[19:02] <bigbrovar> c2tarun: I have no idea really. I have not had a kernel panic since using my work around. brb closing from work been here for close to 12 hours
[19:02] <kobus> BluesKaj: i installed some updates this afternoon and after a reboot the configs no longer show
[19:03] <BluesKaj> kobus, with ethernet you don't really need network manager , some edits in /etc/network/interfaces will work as well
[19:04] <BluesKaj> kobus, dhcp ?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> if so kobus,  sudo dhclient eth0
[19:06] <kobus> BluesKaj: for convenience i want to be able to quickly switch to a network setup, specific fixed ip & netmask. how would i do this in /etc/network/interfaces? a pointer to what to google for is enough :-)
[19:07] <BluesKaj> kobus, try this first sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:09] <BluesKaj> kobus, here's a decent tutorial for using network/interfaces without network manager  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[19:09] <kobus> BluesKaj: reconfigured network interfaces, no change
[19:09] <BluesKaj> kobus, ^
[19:09] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I think thats been converted now to an upstart job
[19:10] <kobus> BluesKaj: thanks, I will look at it. strange, i've used knetworkmanager for this without problems for more than a year
[19:10] <BluesKaj> genii-around, I still use it , with dnsmasq settings in resolv.conf
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Haven't used network manager for 3 yrs
[19:12] <BluesKaj> except for wifi on the laptop
[19:16] <kobus> BluesKaj: why is that, it has the functionality. is it because the bugs are not fixed?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> kobus, I was converted to using the network/interfaces file by some guys who claimed it's settings create a faster connection than using the network manager
[19:20] <BluesKaj> brb
[19:20] <kobus> BluesKaj: ok, maybe you will convert me
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ok rebooted router .added wifes online game to the allowed ports
[19:45] <damaltor> hi everybody, i have a weird and not reproduceable wlan problem. i am working w/ linux for years now, so i have tried a lot, but: after booting my pc, SOMETIMES wlan will not connect. i have to reboot the entire pc then, logout/in, or restarting the knetworkmanager, or eve unloading/loading the driver module doesnt help. i have no idea what that is, and it appens in 3 out of 5 boots.
[20:02] <afkpersonnumbero> hey, i see several dialogs with "share this graphical element on the network," usually plasmoids, what exactly does this do?
[20:02] <afkpersonnumbero> hey, i see several dialogs with "share this graphical element on the network," usually plasmoids, what exactly does this do?
[20:05] <Tm_T> afkpersonnumbero: that means if it's shared, it can be viewed on another system in the local network usually
[20:08] <afkpersonnumbero> is it zeroconf or something? does kde have a backend server thats always running for those?
[20:11] <ilias> genii-around: well the only i think i managed with efax was to call my line and manually answered and heared the known sound of fax. as i called my line from my mobile the line disconnected from efax after 15-20 secs maybe because recognized that it wasn't an incoming fax.
[20:12] <ilias> i could not manage to answer automatically although i enable stanby and 3 rings.
[20:13] <ilias> that's a problem because i cannot know the time of the incoming call
[20:13] <ilias> that is for incoming.
[20:14] <ilias> i tried also for an outcoming call but the program asks for a postscript file
[20:15] <ilias> i convert to ps file a pdf and a odt file but cannot accept them because cannot manage tiff files
[20:15] <ilias> i tried to find an online convertor to try with them but i diddn't find aything.
[20:16] <ilias> so i dont know if efax can call but i guess it can.
[20:17] <ilias> i couldnt manage to hear the modem dialing or accepting a call
[20:18] <ilias> that is my short review. actually i googled enough and the same 'bugs' was identified from many other users
[20:19] <ilias> some of them recommend for an upadate to the latest stable version
[20:19] <ilias> some other althoug they updated their efax they couldn't solve these probls.
[20:19] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:19] <ilias> that's all.
[20:20] <cousin_mario> kopete won't come out of the systray, for some reason
[20:21] <genii-around> ilias: Apologies, my time to assist today is extremely limited, work is very busy and I am also having computer issues myself.
[20:21] <ilias> any way it was a very good try and your help was super. i am satisfied even i can only accept incoming faxes. i rarely send faxes. i prefer email.
[20:22] <ilias> ok, no probl. i hope you read the above review and i hope next days to help to solve these small issues.
[20:22] <genii-around> ilias: As I understand, it can send files which are PDF or PS . Openoffice/Libreoffice can export to PDF, this might be the best way to convert what you need to send. As for the receiving, I'm fairly lost on how to assist there
[20:23] <ilias> no, pdf, only ps but not the ps they can be converted with OO or LO.
[20:25] <ilias> efax: fails to send ps file: can't read multi-strip TIFF files
[20:34] <ilias> well i have to go now for some sleep, is already 22:33 here. many thanks for the advises. regards.
[20:58] <cousin_mario> bye
[21:16] <cjae> why isnt muon included instead of kpackkit
[21:16] <cjae> kpackagekit is lame
[21:16] <toyo> anyone care to enlighten me as to how I go about setting a socks proxy for kde?
[21:17] <toyo> it seems to only support http proxies
[21:20] <cjae> but switching from adept to kpackage to kpackkit to muon, man it would take five more releases it to get it right ;P
[21:22] <toyo> cjae, know how to set a socks proxy in kde?
[21:22] <cjae> no
[21:22] <toyo> lame
[21:23] <cjae> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=517872
[21:23] <cjae> toyo
[21:23] <toyo> yup looking at it
[21:25] <cjae> doesnt look like there are much for answers, you should try #kde if you dont find anything.
[21:26] <toyo> k
[21:26] <toyo> thanks
[21:27] <cjae> tsocks
[21:27] <cjae> reading an old post looks like you need extra packages
[21:28] <toyo> hmm its quite a pain
[21:28] <toyo> XD
[21:29] <cjae> good luck
[21:35] <Uber_Geek> So I just installed Kubuntu 11.04, from Ubuntu 11.04, and the search and launch screen's icons are huge for my little netbook screen.  I have been searching all day and haven't found a successful way to shrink them to a reasonable size.  any one have any luck with this?
[21:35] <toyo> cjae, I figured it out...I will just use polipo to act as a gateway
[21:36] <cjae> nice
[21:36] <BluesKaj> cjae, muon will be default on 11.10
[21:36] <cjae> lol
[21:38] <BluesKaj> Uber_Geek, look in kmenu/apps/settings/system settings / application appearance/icons /advanced
[21:38] <Uber_Geek> I don't appear to have a Kmenu
[21:39] <BluesKaj> Uber_Geek, you installed kubuntu?
[21:39] <Uber_Geek> yup
[21:39] <BluesKaj> did you install kubuntu-desktop on gnome
[21:39] <Uber_Geek> I told it to do a clean install.
[21:40] <BluesKaj> kmenu is the blue icon with K and a gear on it
[21:41] <BluesKaj> in the panel
[21:41] <Uber_Geek> I know, I have used KDE in the past,
[21:42] <BluesKaj> then you probly beed to logout and in with kde/kubuntu desktop , if you have no kmenu, Uber_Geek
[21:42] <Uber_Geek> I am wondering if it loaded an alternate interface because it detected I was running a netbook
[21:43] <BluesKaj> oh netbook , there;s supposed to be some kind of switch desktops icon in the panel
[21:58] <Uber_Geek> found it - > System Settings - > Workspace Behavior -> Workspace - > Workspace Type : change from netbook to Desktop.
[22:59] <p896gbm> hey guys, i've encountered some series regressions with plasma on natty
[22:59] <p896gbm> when i plug in an external monitor and go split screen, and try to move a taskbar to the external monitor, plasma always freezes
[22:59] <p896gbm> and i have to killall plasma-desktop
[22:59] <p896gbm> anybody else encountered this?
[23:00] <p896gbm> the previous version had no problems with me enabling and disabling a second monitor. it wouldn't remember where my taskbars were but i could just move them around
[23:00] <p896gbm> but in the new version the taskbars seem to want to animate as i drag them around, and it's screwing it up and freezing
[23:05] <EagleScreen> hello
[23:05] <EagleScreen> I have a problem with Policykit
[23:07] <EagleScreen> I created a new admin user with adduser (adduser -ingroup admin myuser) because the account of the installation user was corrupted and deleted. Now the new adminstrator user cannot install updates, because Policykit asks for the root password insted of the user password
[23:08] <EagleScreen> where can I configure policikit to allow this user to get privileges?


[20:02] <jmacdonald> hi. i guess no variables allowed in things like chdir ?
[20:47] <dibic> hi, im using upstart to start/stop gunicorn. service gunicorn start works, but when i try to stop i get an unknown instance error. i don't have an expect stanza; when i tried i ended up in a start/killed state and had to use a workaround. any suggestions?


 we're going through The Great DVCS Debate (Summer 2010 Edition) now, I have noticed the bazaar/subversion integration is way ahead of other DVCS offerings
[00:18] <mkanat> ^^^^^^^^^^ That's Yahoo.
[02:34] <GungaDin> in revisionspec, does 'ancestor' relate to any common revision? or a common branch?
[04:19] <wgrant> GungaDin: Common revision.
[04:27] <GungaDin> thx
[07:28] <mtaylor> gah
[07:28] <mtaylor> $ bzr push --no-stacked lp:~ozone-core/ozone/devel
[07:28] <mtaylor> Using default stacking branch /~ozone-core/ozone/spm-test at lp-70455952:///~ozone-core/ozone
[07:28] <mtaylor> FAIL
[07:28] <spm> argh
[07:28] <mtaylor> um. o hai --no-stacked
[08:03] <parthm> hello. is 2.2b4 feature freeze or is it 2.2rc1? ... i am asking in the context of any new merge proposals.
[08:19] <vila> parthm: AIUI the feature freeze is already in effect
[08:20] <parthm> vila: ok. thanks. so the trunk is for 2.3 now?
[08:38] <vila> parthm: ha, the tricky one :) I'd say no, but you should ask the RM !
[08:39] <jam> parthm: 2.2b4 isn't a strict feature freeze, but it *is* an api freeze
[08:39] <jam> so that plugins can stabilize for the 2.2rc1 in a month
[08:40] <jam> however, if we need to, we can split 2.2 off
[08:40] <jam> I'll ask poolie what he thinks
[08:40] <jam> we certainly want to avoid waiting on landing code
[08:40] <jam> parthm: poolie finalizes, trunk is now 2.3
[08:40] <jam> I'll submit a patche
[08:40] <jam> patch
[08:42] <parthm> jam: ok. thanks for clarifying. one more question. should patches be submitted against trunk and proposed against 2.2 on a case by case basis? or (if they don't break api) they should be proposed against 2.2 branch and merged into trunk for now?
[08:44] <parthm> looks like i may need to rework the news entry for https://code.launchpad.net/~parthm/bzr/603461-ensure-no-var-named-message/+merge/29624 :P and propose it again.
[08:45] <poolie> parthm, jam, yes, features that don't break apis and aren't too risky are welcome
[08:45] <jam> parthm: if you think it is safe for 2.2, propose it there
[08:46] <jam> 2.x is always merged up into trunk
[08:46] <jam> so it saves having multiple proposals
[08:46] <parthm> poolie, jam: ok. i will do that. thanks.
[17:14] <JoshBrown> I'm working with Bazaar on Launchpad and was wondering how the branch, change, commit, merge process goes? Currently I am pulling from the branch, working on it, then pushing it back, is this 'best practice'?
[17:16] <rubbs> JoshBrown: that is one way of doing it. There is no one right way to do it, but what I tend to do is pull one down and have it as my "mirror" of the LP branch. then I branch from my local one and hack away. When I want to get it into lp I push/merge to the local one and push up to LP.
[17:16] <rubbs> the reason i do this is if I want two or more branches from the same lp branch
[17:18] <rubbs> it also allows for the mirror to keep up to date in case your work is taking a while.
[17:18] <rubbs> but others here might offer a different workflow
[17:18] <JoshBrown> rubbs: Great, I finally did something right! :)
[17:19] <JoshBrown> rubbs: For some reason I thought that maybe merges were supposed to be done on the Launchpad end.
[17:19] <rubbs> JoshBrown: usually not. Merges are easier to do locally and then push to lp
[17:20] <rubbs> JoshBrown: the mirror approach also keeps all your history in line with the LP branch rather than jumping back and forth between branches
[17:20] <rubbs> JoshBrown: in other words, the mirror/LP history is always on the left (first one seen) and the working branches are on the right (seen after you expand this history at the merges)
[17:22] <JoshBrown> rubbs: Yeah, I'm glad you can merge locally for ease of use / keeping in sync.  So you can clone/branch from them, but you won't be able to push to it.
[17:24] <rubbs> in this case you submit a proposal and have a link to your branch and someone with commit access can merge it in for you (provided they accept it)
[17:25] <JoshBrown> rubbs: Ah, so if you have access to the branch you don't bother with a merge proposal? Got it.
[17:25] <rubbs> JoshBrown: you don't have to IIRC, but it may be good practice if you wish to have a process in place
[17:26] <rubbs> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.1/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html
[17:27] <JoshBrown> Thanks.
[17:29] <rubbs> np
[18:50] <Meths> If you run bzr uncommit on a tree are the bzr pull references it gives you good for the life of the tree or can doing the wrong thing break those?
[18:50] <Meths> It think my real question is can you run bzr revert after doing uncommit so you have a completely clean revision and then apply those pull commands?
[18:51] <poolie> they will last within that repostiroy
[18:51] <poolie> Meths, why would you want to do that?
[18:53] <Meths> For some reason one of our devs had content conflicts doing a bzr update on their version of trunk.  They ran uncommit forgetting it would affect the lp copy but whatever caused the conflicts (which didn't show up on lp or others trees) shows in their bzr st
[18:54] <Meths> So could they just revert so that they have a clean bzr st then run the bzr pull commands to reapply the uncommits and see if that cleans it up?
[18:56] <poolie> right
[18:56] <poolie> if they didn't like the conflicts they probably should have just reverted, i think
[18:58] <Meths> Possibly, it still isn't clear how you can get content conflicts just running bzr update every so often on a checkout from lp so not sure what they could have done to their copy.
[18:59] <poolie> when you update, it merges the upstream changes against your uncommitted changes
[19:01] <Meths> poolie: Exactly, normally our workflow means you wouldn't make any changes directly in the trunk checkout.  I'll ask them if they may have done.  In the meantime we'll do the bzr revert to get it clean and run the pulls.
[19:02] <poolie> k
[19:02] <poolie> just for curiousity, which project?
[19:03] <Meths> openlp
[19:04] <Meths> poolie: will those pull references be in a fresh checkout from lp?
[19:17] <maxb> Meths: I believe they will _not_ because they won't be in the ancestry of the branch head. However, a subsequent attempt to refer to them might pull them from the lp branch at that time
[19:19] <Meths> maxb: Thanks.  They seemed to be though and all is fixed now.  I assume as the uncommit happened on the lp copy as well, the references were also stored there.
[19:35] <[reed]> does bzr support pulling a repo within a repo? as in, I have a top level "server" repo, but within that repo, I want the "extensions" directory to pull from another repo (similar to svn:externals)
[19:35] <[reed]> as the extensions apply to more than just this one server
[19:38] <[reed]> ooo
[19:38] <[reed]> https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr-externals
[20:04] <bbutz> it is possible to cherry pick multiple files when merging? I have an intermediate branch, and want to merge files that are across multiple revisions of another branch into it


[05:27] <guiverc> ubuntu desktop ISO booted on different boxes (ie. uefi or old-bios) should act the same shouldn't it?  that's not been altered?
[05:35]  * guiverc has rebooted thumb-drive & this time it looks better :)
[18:44] <sers> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ge35FtIGoSlTzz0cKP5sZCbI_gT_DRFg


[00:08] <_Techie_> why would installing mythbuntu-desktop and then removing it cause so much trouble?
[00:26] <_Techie_> is there a good guide for adding a composite input to mythtv?
[03:23] <_Techie_> are there any guides on how to setup a framegrabber TV capture card for use with an analogue transmission?
[03:28] <tgm4883> _Techie_, framegrabber? yuch
[03:29] <tgm4883> _Techie_, i'd try to get a cheap pvr-150 off ebay if I were you
[03:30] <_Techie_> tgm4883, i know, but its a case of workign with what i have untill then
[03:30] <tgm4883> _Techie_, it's a serious pain
[03:30] <_Techie_> your telling me
[03:30] <tgm4883> I'm not sure if there is a good guide
[03:31] <tgm4883> Whats the issue?
[03:31] <_Techie_> everything
[03:31] <tgm4883> heh
[03:32] <tgm4883> well that isn't a great answer
[03:32] <_Techie_> the goal is to have a card in my server machine, so that i can watch tv on my pc in my room
[03:32] <tgm4883> but about what I expected with a software encoder
[03:32] <tgm4883> _Techie_, ok, do you have any part of it working?
[03:32] <tgm4883> how fast is your server?
[03:32] <_Techie_> no
[03:33] <_Techie_> 2.2ghz Athlon X2 64
[03:33] <tgm4883> ok
[03:33] <_Techie_> at the moment its already running xbmc with VDPAU for HD decoding
[03:34] <tgm4883> ok
[03:34] <tgm4883> Did you set it up in the mythtv-setup?
[03:34] <_Techie_> yes and no
[03:34] <_Techie_> yes i setup the tuner as a V4L device
[03:34] <tgm4883> also, there isn't a need for VDPAU with a software encoder
[03:34] <_Techie_> no i couldnt get any of it to work
[03:34] <tgm4883> no HD content
[03:35] <tgm4883> _Techie_, did you finish steps 2,3 and 4 in mythtv-setup?
[03:35] <_Techie_> to the best of my knowledge
[03:35] <_Techie_> however it seems that myth can scan for analogue signals
[03:36] <_Techie_> or so it leads me to believe
[03:37] <tgm4883> _Techie_, ok, do you have a frontend on your server?
[03:37] <tgm4883> just for testing
[03:37] <_Techie_> yes
[03:38] <tgm4883> what happens when you try to watch live tv
[03:38] <_Techie_> there are no channels
[03:38] <_Techie_> cant add channels if i cant scan analogue transmissions
[03:38] <tgm4883> ah
[03:39] <_Techie_> i wish i could use DVB-T, but we dont have that im my area
[03:39] <tgm4883> what version of mythtv
[03:39] <_Techie_> whatever is in the ubuntu repo's for 10.04
[03:39] <tgm4883> _Techie_, ah
[03:39] <tgm4883> ok, so first, you need to get up to date on mythtv
[03:39] <tgm4883> !updates
[03:39] <Zinn> The Mythbuntu team provides updates for MythTV and Mythbuntu package using the Mythbuntu Repos http://mythbuntu.org/repos
[03:40] <tgm4883> get to at least 0.23.1 if not 0.24
[03:41] <_Techie_> might as well get 0.24
[03:41] <_Techie_> got nothign to loos
[03:41] <_Techie_> loose*
[03:46] <_Techie_> thankyou tgm4883, you are the only person who has said anything helpful
[03:50] <tgm4883> yw
[03:55] <_Techie_> if i couldnt get it working within one week, i was going to backup my entire server and rebuild it ontop of windows media center
[03:56] <_Techie_> and thats not an easy task when everything is formatted in ext3 and 4 and already configured
[03:56] <tgm4883> yea no reason to do that
[04:03] <_Techie_> okay, everything should be installed and updated now
[04:04] <_Techie_> i guess i should go through setting things up in mythtv-setup now
[04:08] <_Techie_> im gonna rebuild my database
[04:08] <tgm4883> _Techie_, yep
[04:09] <_Techie_> if i can remember how
[04:14] <[R]> it looks like the python and perl bindings are missing from the latest autobuilds, anyone else see that?
[04:17] <_Techie_> okay, running the config now
[04:17] <_Techie_> tgm4883, up to the part where it would scan for channels, do i need to do this?
[04:17] <tgm4883> _Techie_, yep
[04:18] <tgm4883> _Techie_, you will probably need to scan for channels outside of mythtv then import a channels.conf file
[04:18] <tgm4883> I haven't done that in a long time though, so you might want to look at the mythtv wiki for assistance
[04:18] <_Techie_> oh snap
[04:18] <_Techie_> just realised i dont have the aerial plugged in =P
[04:19] <tgm4883> heh
[04:19] <tgm4883> you might want to do that
[04:19] <tgm4883> channel scanning might work better
[04:27] <_Techie_> okay, how would i go about scannign outside myth?
[04:29] <_Techie_> tgm4883, ya still there?
[04:32] <tgm4883> yea
[04:32] <tgm4883> playing mass effect 2
[04:39] <_Techie_> tgm4883, how might i be able to scan for channels outside myth?
[04:40] <tgm4883> looking
[04:40] <tgm4883> all i'm finding is scanning for digital channels though
[04:40] <tgm4883> did you try scanning inside mythtv after hooking up your cable?
[04:40] <_Techie_> yes
[04:40] <_Techie_> did a full scan for everything
[04:41] <_Techie_> it added a channel for every frequency it scanned, however they are all digital, so theres abotu 2k channels with nothing
[04:42] <tgm4883> and you are sure you receive analog channels?
[04:42] <_Techie_> yes
[04:42] <_Techie_> cant get DVS-T in the area
[04:43] <_Techie_> look quickly at this
[04:43] <_Techie_> http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Components/Other-PCI-cards/auction-341429940.htm
[04:43] <Zinn> [www.trademe.co.nz] Hauppauge WINTV-PVR-150MCE LP for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand
[04:43] <_Techie_> that will work with DVB-S, right?
[04:43] <tgm4883> IDK
[04:43] <tgm4883> DVB-S?
[04:43] <_Techie_> sattelite
[04:43] <tgm4883> DVB is digital?
[04:44] <_Techie_> digital video broadcast - satellite
[04:44] <tgm4883> right
[04:44] <tgm4883> as in not analog?
[04:44] <_Techie_> yeah
[04:44] <_Techie_> as in what myth scans for
[04:44] <_Techie_> its $40 with postage
[04:45] <_Techie_> if its as it seems to be, DVB-S with a loop out, then i can connect the sattelite dish to it and loop it back to the SKY reciever
[04:45] <tgm4883> i'm confused as to whether you have analog or digital. In either case, you might try asking in #mythtv-users as they have more people in there and can likely answer your question about scanning
[04:45] <_Techie_> at my location i can recieve analogue and digital via sat
[04:46] <_Techie_> i already have an analogue card
[04:46] <_Techie_> but if i can pick up a sat card, then i can go digital and things just work
[04:47] <tgm4883> yea i'd ask in #mythtv-users
[06:11] <_Techie_> tgm4883, ive made progress, ive managed to view mythtv across the network, but i stil dont have any proper channels tuned in
[07:17] <MoMo> so i just bought and installed a nvidia geforce GT 220 ... and installed 10.10  and updated the nvidia driver
[07:18] <MoMo> however still no audio
[08:13] <_Techie_> MoMo, the Nvidia cards dont have inbuilt sound cards so you will need to run the cable from your motherboards spdif header to the card
[08:20] <MoMo> there is no place to plug a cable into on the card
[08:23] <MoMo> google is telling me to update alsa?
[08:23] <MoMo> http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[08:23] <Zinn> [wiki.xbmc.org] HOW-TO set up HDMI audio on nVidia GeForce G210, GT220, or GT240 - XBMC
[08:25] <MoMo> i've got no clue what its asking me to do?
[09:25] <MoMo> poke
[09:46] <MoMo> BLZbubba you around still?
[10:23] <MoMo> when i am watching tv .. it shows the sam program on top of each other
[10:23] <MoMo> like a double display
[14:42] <rhpot1991> _Techie_: wrong, the 220 does
[14:43] <rhpot1991> MoMo: all you need to do is reconfigure sound, rescan your devices and pick the propper one
[14:43] <rhpot1991> on my 220 it was something like Nvidia1:Device3
[15:16] <BLZbubba> MoMo: sort of
[15:17] <BLZbubba> _Techie_: not true, at least with my 210
[15:17] <BLZbubba> fwiw
[15:17] <BLZbubba> MoMo: are you positive that audio works on your HDMI?  do you have another HDMI device to try, like a blu ray or cable box?
[15:17] <BLZbubba> test the same cable & input
[15:18] <BLZbubba> 99% likely that it will be fine, but you need to make sure you're not chasing the wrong problem
[17:20] <tvbuntu> hi everybody ,I want some guiding in a matter related to recording from tv tuner using mencoder
[17:21] <tvbuntu> ho have anyone some time ?
[17:24] <tvbuntu> silenceeeee..
[17:57] <tvbuntu> i want to make a script to work with mwncoder>An you help me?
[17:58] <tvbuntu> no one?