[00:00] <sigma_> BluesKaj: nope its the neon deb file for the amarok2 alpha. im trying to avoid downloading the huge dependencies as im running kde4 already. is this possible?
[00:05] <BluesKaj> sigma_, I'm sure you can run amarok 1.4.9 (kde3) on kde4
[00:05] <sigma_> ok it appears i need the qt package, odd i thought kde 4.0.3 had qt installed already
[00:05] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: no... its not since neon uses 4,1 deps
[00:05] <sigma_> rats
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> including qt4.4
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> neon is worth it though :) totally cool.
[00:06] <nosrednaekim> a bit unstable though
[00:06] <_CrashMaster_> oy
[00:06] <_CrashMaster_> ok
[00:06] <sigma_> BluesKaj: yeah i was doing that but i want to test drive amarok2
[00:06] <_CrashMaster_> I cant quite figure this out. What exactly IS usplash?
[00:07] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: what exactly do you term unstable?
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> _CrashMaster_: the boot splash
[00:07] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: if you try to use any plasma applets within it..... it will crash on changing songs :P
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> otherwise its perfectly stable
[00:08] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: huh plasma applets in the actual amarok program?
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> oh eyah
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> *yeah
[00:08] <_CrashMaster_> nosrednaekim: Im at kde-look.org trying to find a pretty boot screen. But I think Im having a problem defining "boot splash"
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: hey, what is the command to start the desktop effects thing you wrote?
[00:09] <_CrashMaster_> becasue there are apparently several different "boot splash" apps
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: desktop-effects-kde4
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: ok thanks!
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: wait, why kde4?
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> its written in qt4
[00:09] <nosrednaekim> don't worry :P
[00:09] <Odd-rationale> ok
[00:09] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: can you give me an example of one of them? are they crucial parts of the program or bits that are enabled by the users choice?
[00:10] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: bits that are enabled by choice.... anything that was in the old "context" side bar
[00:11] <sigma_> oh that joint, yeah always was the first thing i hid away in the old amarok
[00:12] <sigma_> nosrednaekim: do the neon deb files have any dependencies that are outside of the "neon" repo?
[00:15] <nosrednaekim> sigma_: shouldn't, no
[00:15] <nosrednaekim> didn't for me at least
[00:16] <marcin_> Hi
[00:21] <sigma_> oh yes i wanted to ask, konqueror kde4 is encrypting https pages hey?
[00:34] <jhutchins> sigma_: That's a statement, not a question.
[00:35] <Lenaud01> anyone know why my wireless card would not work in hardy with nidiswrapper and have bcm5 driver enabled when i restarted? but when i restart the card shows blue as in disabled and nothing shows in iwconfig
[00:35] <sigma_> jhutchins: well the little lock doesnt appear in the address bar but it still says https. how do i know the connection is secure?
[00:36] <jhutchins> Lenaud01: There are three possible drivers for the broadcom bcm43xx series: ndiswrapper w/ firmware, bcm43xx driver w/ firmware, and b43 drive w/firmware.  DOn't knwo that applies.
[00:37] <jhutchins> sigma_: If you are connecting to the https port (443) on the server then you have an encrypted connection.
[00:37] <Lenaud01> how would i know which i have jhutchins?
[00:37] <jhutchins> lspci?
[00:37] <_CrashMaster_> lspci
[00:37] <Lenaud01> I have a pavilion dv6839cl
[00:38] <Lenaud01> lspci will detect my broadcom?
[00:38] <jhutchins> some of the dells use a hot key to turn the wireless on, and I don't believe that works in Linux.
[00:38] <Lenaud01> this is a hp
[00:38] <Lenaud01> brb
[00:39] <_CrashMaster_> Lenaud01: type "sudo lspci | grep broadcom" and then pastebin it
[00:39] <_CrashMaster_> well nm
[00:40] <TeslaTony> Are there any big issues with 64 bit 8.04?
[00:41] <TeslaTony> I remember 7.10 had some issues with flash especially, but some others with not running a lot of 32 bit programs right
[00:42] <_CrashMaster_> TeslaTony: From everything Ive seen / heard, the 64bit isnt really a good choice unless you have a specific need for it.
[00:42] <BluesKaj> TeslaTony, I have a 64bit cpu but gave up on the 64 bit OSs and apps due to lack of support
[00:43] <prometheus1981> hello everybody
[00:43] <_CrashMaster_> ok, time for a quick reboot to test the splashiness!
[00:44]  * BluesKaj looks around for Zeus
[00:44] <_ZeuZ_> BluesKaj, Here am I :)
[00:44] <_ZeuZ_> TeslaTony, Flash is not built for 64 bits
[00:45] <_ZeuZ_> But we can use it through emulating the 32bits arch
[00:45] <_ZeuZ_> files
[00:45] <_ZeuZ_> packages like like ia32-libs
[00:45] <TeslaTony> Yeah, I ditched 7.10 64-bit because the emulator didn't work
[00:46] <Lenaud01> I did lspci and it said broadcom BCM4310 i did ndiswrapper -l and it says bcmwl5 that right ???
[00:46] <_ZeuZ_> As for support, BluesKaj, software compiled for amd64 rarely have different problems than 32bits versions, unless they run in low level, wich handles it different
[00:46] <_ZeuZ_> TeslaTony, if you install the flashplugin-nonfree it will, it's not an emulator itself, you need the compatibility files... I just said emulator because it was shorter to see it that way for ya
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> Lenaud01, YOu don't really need to use ndiswrapper
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> install b43-fwcutter
[00:47] <Lenaud01> I cant get my wireless to work
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> and have NATIVE SUPPORT
[00:47] <Lenaud01> aww sweet
[00:47] <Lenaud01> so just apt-get that??
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> yup
[00:47] <Lenaud01> ty
[00:47] <BluesKaj> _ZeuZ_, I had probs with google earth, flash and some others so i just went with 32bit OS and i don't feel deprived in the least :)
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> letme confirm the package name
[00:47] <_ZeuZ_> Me neither I have to say...
[00:48] <_ZeuZ_> I use Debian(64bits), and FreeBSD (32bits) and personally, system alike, iX86 is more developed an accepted until now
[00:48] <_ZeuZ_> I'm actually here to colaborate with KDE users
[00:48] <Lenaud01> so sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter right ?
[00:49] <_ZeuZ_> and, because I'm working to get some of my scripts for networking (turning a linux router system into a ISP with a couple of single scripts)
[00:49] <_ZeuZ_> Lenaud01, letme confirm the package name, one sec...
[00:49] <Lenaud01> ok thanks _ZeuZ_
[00:50] <_ZeuZ_> zeuz@Deimos:~$ apt-cache search b43
[00:50] <_ZeuZ_> b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[00:50] <_ZeuZ_>  >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's all you need to know ;) just answer yes to the "download and fetch firmware" and then, enjoy
[00:51] <Lenaud01> looks like you were right :)
[00:51] <Lenaud01> thanks
[00:51] <Lenaud01> now I can uninstall ndiswrapper
[00:51] <Lenaud01> restarting thanks again _ZeuZ_
[00:52] <_ZeuZ_> Gosh, people come to ubuntu with a Windowslike sense
[00:52] <_ZeuZ_> He would have had enough by modprobing b43 xD
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> every time i boot into hardy with a custom 2.5.25 kernel i have to boot in safe mood and ask it to first fix X; this appeared to have happened with the hardy-update rev=13
[01:12] <reagleBRKLN> anyway to make the config permanent?
[01:12] <digitaloktay> hello
[01:12] <digitaloktay> bye windows welcome kubuntu :), my uncle is change to kubuntu, and the son to Xubuntu because he has a 866mhz pc
[01:30] <cahuez> hello to all..!
[01:33] <_ZeuZ_> Gosh... I have to take a nap ebfore I continue dealing with this...
[01:34] <_ZeuZ_> too much to take in count for this package... xD
[01:34] <_ZeuZ_> Though I love contributing...
[01:38] <RancidKraut> Ark seems to extract properly, but when I browse to the directory that I extracted to, nothing's there.
[01:39] <_ZeuZ_> Perhaps a broken tar file?
[01:39] <RancidKraut> It's a ZIP and it's perfectly fine.
[01:39] <RancidKraut> :S
[01:39] <_ZeuZ_> try from the command line, what kind of file is it? tar.gz = tar -zxvf FILE
[01:39] <_ZeuZ_> oh, hmmm...
[01:39] <_ZeuZ_> well, use the unzip commandline tool
[01:40] <RancidKraut> Ok, thanks.
[01:40] <RancidKraut> Have any recommendations for other archiving tools?  I'm not saying that Ark is bad, I'd just like to try something else out.
[01:40] <_ZeuZ_> (example: unzip file ) (pd: no need to specify the format, though it won't harm)
[01:41] <_ZeuZ_> hehe... I just don't use them... I've made Kde to link those files to a scrpt I made in SH, where I can specify as $1 the filename and it will extract it to the ~/uncompressed/$1
[01:42] <xt828_> if i run apt-get through konsole, it keeps trying to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> - any idea how i can fix that?
[01:42] <sigma_> i have a deb that i downloaded. how can i install it and get kubuntu to automatically download dependencies for it?
[01:43] <_ZeuZ_> sigma_, dpkg -i FILE.DEB
[01:43] <_ZeuZ_> (as a priviledged user, or with sudo )
[01:43] <_ZeuZ_> xt828_, well, that seems to be a problem with resolv.conf
[01:43] <_ZeuZ_> seems like he cannot resolve the direction through localhost
[01:44] <_ZeuZ_> try: dig archive.ubuntu.org @ <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:44] <sigma_> _ZeuZ_: tried that but its not installing the dependencies, just saying that they are not installed
[01:44] <_ZeuZ_> sigma_ run apt-get -f install
[01:45] <pirate_chef> I use gdebi for debs
[01:45] <xt828_> _ZeuZ_: i get the error dig: couldn't get address for '': not found
[01:45] <_ZeuZ_> pirate_chef, I assume he's not using any Desktop Enviroment
[01:45] <pirate_chef> OK
[01:46] <pirate_chef> ZeuZ, how do you make the words appear in red for me like that?
[01:46] <pirate_chef> Haven't used IRC much in awhile
[01:46] <_ZeuZ_> xt828_, sorry my bad: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> Site
[01:46] <sarah> pirate chef:  I think you just type the name in front with colons, eh?
[01:47] <pirate_chef> sarah: Yes? Like this?
[01:47] <_ZeuZ_> pirate_chef, just type the nicknmame as it's displayed. use tab to aid you
[01:47] <_ZeuZ_> pirate_chef, Exactly like that
[01:47] <pirate_chef> _ZeuZ_: OK...neat!
[01:48] <sarah> pirate_chef:  ah, yes, so I do have it figured out
[01:48] <xt828_> _ZeuZ_: it says 1 server found, global options printcmd, connection timed out no servers could be reached
[01:49] <_ZeuZ_> try: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com.ar and if it says the same, just try dig www.google.com.ar and let me know
[01:49] <_ZeuZ_> I'll explain later why I make you do this check
[01:49] <_ZeuZ_> gosh, now I see that I'm noton ubuntu server xD
[01:50] <_ZeuZ_> xt828_, sorry, just try one of the servers on resolv.conf
[01:50] <sigma_> _ZeuZ_: thanks the command did the trick
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> sigma_ installed and working, I suppose? ;)
[01:51] <xt828_> where is resolv.conf
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:51] <sigma_> _ZeuZ_: na still downloading, it had a huge amount of deps
[01:51] <_ZeuZ_> first of all" can you browse the network or you can't do that either? If so, I'm guessing you're not in the same PC that the one in wich you're having problems
[01:52] <_ZeuZ_> sigma_ lol
[01:52] <_ZeuZ_> what are you trying to install, anyways?
[01:52] <xt828_> _ZeuZ_: resolv.conf only has one entry: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:53] <sigma_> _ZeuZ_: im trying to install neon (amarok2 alpha) but because im in south "crap internet speed" africa i have to send the package files through kget
[01:53] <_ZeuZ_> Now I know you're passing through a router (a router host or a phisical one)
[01:53] <sigma_> the big ones that is
[01:53] <_ZeuZ_> xt828_, then try dig @<IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com.ar
[01:54] <xt828_> it found the server fine, looks like
[01:54] <_ZeuZ_> Dont paste it
[01:54] <_ZeuZ_> it's not needed..
[01:55] <xt828_> no, it's rather a large response :P
[01:55] <_ZeuZ_> xt828_, try from konsole: sudo route add default gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:56] <_ZeuZ_> and after that, hit apt-get again
[01:56] <xt828_> _ZeuZ_: the first command got the response SIOCADDRT: File exists
[01:56] <xt828_> apt-get had the same thing as before
[01:58] <_ZeuZ_> weird...
[01:58] <_ZeuZ_> do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:59] <xt828_> will that disconnect irc?
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> Yes, but you'll be back in a minute...
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> actually if your PC and connection is fast enough, you won't be disconnected from anything
[02:00] <xt828_> okay, done
[02:01] <_ZeuZ_> try with apt now
[02:01] <xt828_> same response as before
[02:03] <_ZeuZ_> I'm asking in Debian-kde... Never happen to me so cannot deal with it, but gimme a while and I'll try toget an answer
[02:03] <xt828_> oh, okay thanks
[02:06] <_ZeuZ_> They told me the answer is in the FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKDE
[02:06] <_ZeuZ_> check ther.e..
[02:08] <xt828_> anywhere in particular or run a search?
[02:08] <_ZeuZ_> Dunno, I've not browsed it yet.. I'm dealing with a tcng script
[02:18] <o0Chris0o> how do I make firefox default browser to open webpages from konversation?
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> o0Chris0o: settings --> configure -->
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> o0Chris0o: behaviour --> general --> use custom web browser
[02:21] <o0Chris0o> thanks Odd-rationale
[02:21] <Odd-rationale> np
[02:22] <o0Chris0o> I don't really care for Konqueror for some reason o.0
[02:23] <billyd> I never like Konqueror either - for web browser for sure and not overly fond of it as file manager
[02:24] <billyd> And I'm nothappy with FF3 beta 5 as a non choice upgrade
[02:24] <Odd-rationale> i <3 konqueror
[02:26] <mike-kubuntu> hey guys, i can't play dvds, i've installed libdvdcss from the scrip that kaffeine points you too, and that didn't work, so i restarted and it didn't help, just added the medibuntu repositories and installed thier version of libdvdcss2 and it doesn't work either
[02:27] <mike-kubuntu> it worked in gutsy, for some reason hardy doesn't see it?
[02:29] <o0Chris0o> billyd you can always get 2.0
[02:30] <billyd> I'd have preferred to be given a choice or better handle all beta stuff like KDE 4 is handled
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> I see
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> I tried kde4
[02:30] <o0Chris0o> I wont be switching till first stable release comes out
[02:30] <billyd> I'd like to have it.  "Spose to hand PalmPilots better
[02:31] <Jucato> 4.0 *is* the first stable release
[02:31] <Dr_willis> stable but lacking in some features. :)
[02:31] <Jucato> "stable" and "feature complete" are two different things
[02:31] <mike-kubuntu> haha, 4.0 was NOT stable
[02:31] <Jucato> (no one promised 4.0 would be complete anyway)
[02:32] <mike-kubuntu> 4.0.4 isn't stable
[02:32] <mike-kubuntu> unless your a very very lenient person
[02:32] <billyd> I screwed-up going from Gutsy to Hardy and had a half and half system for a short while.  I found Apt is awfully forgiving
[02:32] <Jucato> not going to argue, but as far as "official releases" are concerned, 4.0 is the first stable. whether you consider it really stable or not, is not my concern
[02:33] <_ZeuZ_> billyd, better use aptitude for dist-upgrades
[02:33] <_ZeuZ_> either way, there-s no supported rollback
[02:33] <AndyMan1> I'm considering reinstalling with the Hardy alternate CD, and had a question about the disk encryption offered. For the keyfile that you can use, is that required to be present at all times, or only initially during boot?
[02:34] <mike-kubuntu> anyone know why libdvdcss2 does not work in hardy?
[02:34] <billyd> I probably will next time.  It wasn't available to me when I had my problems and I couldn't down;oad anything either
[02:35] <_ZeuZ_> mike-kubuntu, yousure you installed it? it works fine here...
[02:36] <_ZeuZ_> do: sudo updatedb && locate libdvdcss2 | grep -v archives and check if it's installed
[02:37] <mike-kubuntu> _ZeuZ_: that commands taking a while
[02:37] <_ZeuZ_> It's supposed to be that way...
[02:38] <_ZeuZ_> It's updating your disks file index and then it will browse through it and check for the installed library...
[02:38] <_ZeuZ_> if not, you could have also done: find / -name libdvdcss2 | grep -v .deb
[02:39] <_ZeuZ_> or, tons of alternatives... feel free to explore the bash shell...
[02:40] <mike-kubuntu> _ZeuZ_: it found the NEWS REadme etc
[02:40] <mike-kubuntu> ZeuZ only things in /usr/share/doc though
[02:40] <_ZeuZ_> then the library is not installed...
[02:41] <_ZeuZ_> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2                                       And then tell me the output
[02:41] <mike-kubuntu> but "it says libdvdcss2 is already the newest version
[02:42] <_ZeuZ_> you should find files under /var/lib too...
[02:42] <mike-kubuntu> oh, found it in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libdvdcss2.*
[02:43] <mike-kubuntu> sorry, has .list .md5sums .postinst .postrm and .shlibs
[02:43] <Itaku> how do i get to make SQL conenct from anywhere? whats the file?
[02:43] <flotishtu> how to auto configure    dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq       .(no need to press enter or yes/no again and again) just one command. ?
[02:43] <_ZeuZ_> Weird, how long has it been happening until now?
[02:43] <_ZeuZ_> Itaku, what do you want to do? :S
[02:43] <_ZeuZ_> SQL server, independantly of wich one you have, will listen on port 1433
[02:43] <mike-kubuntu> _ZeuZ_: this is the first time i've tried since updating to hardy, worked in gutsy
[02:44] <_ZeuZ_> It works for me in hardy...
[02:44] <_ZeuZ_> have you installed it reciently?
[02:44] <mr-t> does anyone know how i get rid of kde wallet, I accidently entered a password that i thought it wanted but somhow i made a new one , since i don't know what i entered, i used adept and removed it, but its still here, adept shows its gone but it still pops up
[02:45] <mike-kubuntu> _ZeuZ_: just installed before last restart
[02:45] <rkroetch_> Anyone else have suspend break for them with the backports update to kernel <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:45] <cisto> ciao a tutti
[02:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> !it
[02:46] <rkroetch_> Or, 2.6.24-17. It still works when I use kernel 2.6.24-16 on this Nforce4 board,
[02:47] <_ZeuZ_> rkroetch_, I have the same the same chipset for my mobo and <IP_ADDRESS> and having no problem...
[02:47] <_ZeuZ_> did you install the kernel from a deb or compiled it?
[02:47] <mike-kubuntu> lol, booting into windows for a dvd, this is just silly
[02:48] <AndyMan1> so anyone familiar with disk encryption with a keyfile?
[02:48] <rkroetch_> _ZeuZ_: 2.6.24-16 has no problems for me, but the backports repository 2.6.24-17 causes me to hang upon resume
[02:51] <Steve-cal> When using the K menu editor, if I click on the icon for the menu/program, it shows a list of available icons (or I can browse), but how do I figure out the location of the icon the program/menu currently uses?
[02:52] <_ZeuZ_> rkroetch_, no idea, currently using SIDs kernel *2.6.26rc*
[02:53] <mr-t> kde wallet anyone?
[02:57] <mr-t> thanx anyway bye
[02:57] <callcenter> pagi
[03:08] <allen__> is there a task manager equivelant in kubuntu?
[03:08] <allen__> so you can see everything thatis running?
[03:08] <Jucato> allen__, Ctrl+Esc
[03:09] <allen__> sweet
[03:09] <Jucato> you can get the full thing by running K Menu -> Sytem -> KSysGuard
[03:11] <Itaku> wheres the mysql config file?
[03:11] <allen__> cool hanks
[03:11] <allen__> thanks
[03:14] <navetz__> hey
[03:14] <navetz__> can someone here help me set up a static ip (from my router)
[03:17] <p_quarles> navetz, unless your router is running kubuntu, there are probably better places to ask
[03:18] <AndyMan1> do you mean set your PC to a static IP like <IP_ADDRESS>? or make your router take a static ip?
[03:18] <allen__> anyone ever setup the cisco client for linux on kubuntu?
[03:20] <navetz__> AndyMan1: I meant set my pc to a static ip
[03:20] <navetz__> I am trying to configure it with knetworkmanager
[03:22] <AndyMan1> wireless or wired?
[03:22] <navetz__> AndyMan1: wireless
[03:24] <AndyMan1> you should just be able to right click on the knetwork manager icon, choose manual configuration, choose eth1 or whatever the right interface is for you in the interfaces tab, choose configure interface, then click manual and plug in an IP and a netmask
[03:24] <navetz__> AndyMan1: what should my netmask be?
[03:24] <navetz__> AndyMan1: also what should I put for gateway?
[03:25] <AndyMan1> if you're using the usual 192.168.1.x, the netmask is <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:25] <navetz__> do I have to do anything with the routes?
[03:26] <AndyMan1> shouldn't need to, IIRC
[03:26] <navetz__> AndyMan1: is the gateway suppose to be the address of my router, because I think the address of my router is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:27] <AndyMan1> yes. <IP_ADDRESS> is just the usual vanilla setup
[03:27] <navetz__> ah ok, I was unsure what gateway was
[03:28] <AndyMan1> if you're using something different than that, you might want to double check your router settings to make sure the netmask is correct
[03:28] <AndyMan1> *that = vanilla setup
[03:29] <AndyMan1> anything not correct in my explanation should be attributed to alcohol consumption ;-)
[03:31] <navetz__> am I back online?
[03:31] <AndyMan1> i see you
[03:31] <navetz__> humm ok, it didn't work, I went back to automatic
[03:31] <navetz__> I have to check my router settings for my netmask?
[03:31] <AndyMan1> =(
[03:33] <navetz__> AndyMan1: hey here are some things my router says:
[03:33] <navetz__> Default Gateway
[03:33] <navetz__> 	<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <navetz__> here is my subnet mask:   	 <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <AndyMan1> what kinda router?
[03:34] <navetz__> old US robotics router
[03:34] <navetz__> i have to go thanks for the help
[03:34] <AndyMan1> sorry i couldn't help
[03:35] <george_> Hello, I have a question about running KDE and Gnome on the same desktop
[03:36] <george_> I have notice that my CPU is running close to 100% since I downloaded both interfaces in Hardy. Is this a coincidence, or common?
[03:39] <jords> I have mplayer svn installed from source, and want to use mplayer-plugin in firefox but  when I try to apt-get mozilla-mplayer apt wants to install mplayer too -any way to tell apt it's already installed (kinda like package-provided in gentoo)
[03:41] <pteague> ok, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 & i'm ending up at a grub prompt
[03:44] <yao_ziyuan> i have set my custom font size and text encoding in konsole. how do i save it for future use?
[03:45] <pteague> settings -> save as default
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> pteague: but sometimes i also need the original encoding
[03:45] <yao_ziyuan> pteague: i prefer to save it as a special profile that i can load
[03:45] <pteague> save sessions profile then?
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> pteague: i tried, but nothing happens
[03:46] <yao_ziyuan> pteague: i don't see the new session profile anywhere nor can i load it
[03:47] <pteague> configure konsole & schema tab - should be able to set up schema there
[03:53] <yao_ziyuan> pteague: doesn't work. it seems konsole is crappy
[03:54] <admirsf><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:55] <admirsf> ubuntu for mac?
[03:57] <admirsf> ora porras    como converso aqui?
[03:58] <admirsf> alguem do brasil ou portugal?
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> !pt | admirsf
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> !pt | admirsf
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> Daisuke_Ido: i think i beat you... ;)
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> it was pretty close either way :)
[03:59] <admirsf> #ubuntu-br
[03:59] <asobi> ssh vulnerability. what's that?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> admirsf: type /join #ubuntu-br
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> asobi: there was a problem with the random number generator for ssh/ssl in debian based distros that caused keys to repeat much faster than they should have
[04:00] <admirsf> muito bem, podem dizer onde converso e tiro duvidas sobre ubuntu e como programar?
[04:01] <admirsf> tem algum portuga ou brasiliano ai?
[04:01] <asobi> that means nothing to me :/
[04:01] <asobi> ssh/ssl? keys? number generator?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> admirsf: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:02] <admirsf> ok...
[04:03] <admirsf> ubuntu in windows vista
[04:03] <admirsf> crashed vista
[04:04] <admirsf> no speaking english....
[04:04] <admirsf> sou novato...
[04:05] <admirsf> observo voces  aprendo com voces
[04:05] <admirsf>  bye
[04:05] <BluesKaj> admirsf, /join #ubuntu-br
[04:09] <pteague> ok, i'm wondering if this is part of the problem... it's detecting my 2x ide drives as being SCSI5 (0,0,0) [sdc] & SCSI5 (0,1,0) [sdd]
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> pteague: that's how they're detected now
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> not as hd*
[04:09] <pteague> k
[04:12] <pteague> & it's also got SCSI1 (0,0,0) [sda] & SCSI2 (0,0,0) [sdb] ... (both sata off a pci card)  i'm wanting it to boot off the 1st ide drive...  do i need to put a /boot on sda or is there something else i'm missing? i keep getting just a grub prompt
[04:13] <BluesKaj> nite folks
[04:14] <favafro> pteague: there is a default boot option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:15] <pteague> yeah, but i can't seem to get anywhere to let me modify that file :(
[04:16] <favafro> pteague: kdesudo kate  /boot/grub/menu.lst - will let yo
[04:16] <favafro> *you
[04:17] <frcsyk> Hello, can anyone answer a quick question for me?
[04:18] <favafro> only if you ask it frcsyk ... :)
[04:18] <frcsyk> is there a command to reboot my desktop into terminal mode?
[04:19] <frcsyk> I have KDE installed but I want to run it just using the terminal but I only have ssh access to it at this moment
[04:19] <favafro> frcsyk: you can press  ctrl+alt+F   - alt+F7  to get back
[04:20] <favafro> *ctrl+alt+F2
[04:20] <stdin> the reboot command is (surprise, surprise): reboot
[04:21] <pteague> sudo mkdir /media/sdc1; sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1; kdesudo kate /media/sdc1/boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:23] <pteague> root (hd2,0) \ kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=94737c4f-9d70-42f9-ab45-234503e607e7 ro quiet splash \ initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
[04:24] <pteague> does that root (hd2,0) need to be changed to sd something ?
[04:25] <favafro> pteague: how many linux installs on this comp?
[04:25] <pteague> just the 1
[04:26] <pteague> 4 hard drives... 2x ide (2x 40gb), 2x sata (80gb & 500gb)
[04:26] <favafro> pteague: are you working from a live cd/
[04:26] <pteague> currently
[04:26] <favafro> *?
[04:27] <favafro> pteague: what is the issue you're trying to solve that's lead you to this stage?
[04:27] <pteague> initially after installing ubuntu-server on the first reboot i got "GRUB loading... \ Error 17"
[04:28] <matthew_> hi
[04:28] <pteague> i've gone through several reinstalls trying with & without /boot specifically created, i even installed fedora 9 which worked, but i don't want fedora... i reinstalled ubuntu-server & no longer had the Error 17, but now i'm just getting dumped to a grub menu
[04:29] <pteague> i even installed kubuntu, rebooted & right back at grub>
[04:29] <matthew_> i am looking for the best linux OS that uses the GNOME desktop, and where i can download a disk image for it
[04:29] <matthew_> can anyone help me?
[04:29] <favafro> !ubuntu
[04:29] <matthew_> does it use GNOME, though?
[04:30] <matthew_> wait, i just asked a BOT a question
[04:30]  * matthew_ facepalms
[04:30] <pteague> ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[04:30] <matthew_> k, i have kubuntu right now
[04:30] <pteague> & xubuntu uses xfce
[04:30] <matthew_> never heard of that one...
[04:30] <matthew_> what is it good for?
[04:31] <matthew_> i like the KDE, but the filebrowser leaves a lot to be desired
[04:31] <pteague> if you want gnome & you have kubuntu installed, just use the package manager to install ubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <matthew_> you can do that?
[04:31] <matthew_> im running Kubuntu in a VM
[04:31] <matthew_> as you can see, im a little new to it
[04:32] <pteague> yeah, they all use the same packages
[04:32] <matthew_> i think i'd rather just set up a diferent VM with Ubuntu
[04:32] <matthew_> that way i can still have the Kubuntu on this one
[04:32] <favafro> pteague: what filesystem  did you use ? - ext3?
[04:32] <matthew_> hmmm?
[04:33] <matthew_> im assuming the desktop version of ubuntu would be best...
[04:34] <pteague> favafro> 501mb swap on each... the 1st ide uses ext3, the other 3 drives i initially had ext3 on them, the last time i tried i switched them to lvm
[04:34] <pteague> & the 501mb swap is 2nd partition on each
[04:34] <matthew_> what is edubuntu?
[04:35] <pteague> it's geared for education... schools & such
[04:35] <matthew_> hmmmm
[04:35] <matthew_> interesting
[04:35] <pteague> educational games & such
[04:36] <favafro> pteague: from here - http://osdir.com/ml/user-groups.linux.kolkata/2005-01/msg00021.html - you can boot from the grub prompt - look at grub.conf for info
[04:36] <evilbug> can anyone help me with gutsy and video playback on an ati x1600?
[04:36] <matthew_> thanks for the help ppl
[04:37] <pteague> favafro> is the hd#... the # part based on how *buntu has detected the drives?
[04:38] <favafro> pteague: yep - listed in grub.conf on the ide drive
[04:39] <pteague> um, where's grub.conf supposed to be? in /boot/grub/grub.conf ? if so, i'm not seeing it there... nor am i seeing it at /etc/grub.conf
[04:40] <Jucato> pteague: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:55] <pteague> ok, weird...  `root (hd2,0)` in grub gives me "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x8e... i wonder then if linux is detecting them differently than the hardware is expecting for boot
[04:55] <pteague> yep, i think that's what's going on... `root (hd0,0)` returns "Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
[04:57] <pteague> yep, that's what it was
[04:57] <pteague> woot! awesome, thanks
[04:57] <favafro> pteague: good luck pteague
[05:09] <hpk> hi the german link please
[05:10] <robocop> Hi There...can someone point me to a site with good instructions to install compiz on 8.04 please?
[05:12] <robocop> !compiz
[05:18] <navetz> can someone help me set up a manual wireless connection
[05:22] <QwertyM> does PyQt4 come bundled with Kubuntu like PyGTK comes with Ubuntu?
[05:34] <QwertyM> does PyQt4 come bundled with Kubuntu like PyGTK comes with Ubuntu?
[05:36] <navetz__> can someone help me set up a manual wireless connection
[05:36] <navetz__> is it possible to set a static ip through a wireless connection ?
[05:37] <pulaski> Hi, I've been unable to boot my recent install of the kubuntu desktop 7.10.  Initially, instead of the grub menu, a repeating L 99 99 99 ... appeared.  I learned this was likely the result of the installation of grub by grub-install utility.  Apparently  the utility might probe a wrong BIOS drive,  I ran the dos fsdisk /mbr and reinstalled but the result after repeated installs now is "Operating System not found".  I tried to
[05:37] <pulaski> tweak grub using the grub cl but that has been unsuccessful under the live cd.  Although I'm able to execute  commands on the grub cl or other bash commands in an xterm nothing actually gets written to the drive.  Is this is the nature of the live cd?  Short of changing the hard drive and insalling again or installing from a new live cd of 8.04, can anyone suggest a different approach to get my install to boot?
[05:37] <favfro> navetz__: yep you can the same way as for an ethernet connection and you don't need to worry about routes
[05:40] <pteague> oh goodie... "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/826f414e-d8b8-4f9b-a405-92d866abfda5 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" & then i get dropped to busybox ash with (initramfs) as the shell prompt
[05:43] <pulaski> btw I've been unable to obtain any helpful suggestions on the #grub channel.    I've verified the problem happens even when xwindows is not running.  Here are the details and some additional info.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12373/
[05:58] <surgy> be more specific? what internet lockup problem?
[05:58] <astron> i don't know what i've change, but my clock and other tray items gone to the left
[05:59] <astron> sorry for english )
[05:59] <izzyb> astron, do you have the systray panel turned on?
[06:00] <izzyb> hmm, isn't system tray a panel applet?
[06:02] <izzyb> I see I have to option to remove it from the panel, but don't see where I'd add it back in
[06:02] <astron> i can remove and add
[06:03] <astron> but it's near my KDE button
[06:03] <izzyb> astron, but you have a panel control called system tray?
[06:03] <astron> in bottom right corner
[06:03] <izzyb> so the tray is there, but the icons are missing?
[06:05] <jonfhancock> astron: can you click the little arrow next to your clock that only appears when you mouse over the clock?
[06:05] <jonfhancock> astron: then click move clock, and drag it back to where it belongs
[06:06] <jonfhancock> astron: if the little arrow doesn't appear, your panel is probably locked. in which case you can right click the panel and click unlock panels
[06:06] <astron> thanks for your help
[06:06] <jonfhancock> ;0
[06:07] <astron> i will try in
[06:07] <jonfhancock> err... ;)
[06:07] <astron> it
[06:09] <pteague> i disconnected my sata drives & i'm hoping that might get this to work
[06:10] <izzyb_> I'm still here if anyone has a suggestion re my intermittent freezing problem. -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/12373/
[06:10] <izzyb_> I'm pulling the ATI card from the box to see if that's the cause
[06:10] <pteague> what cpu do you have?
[06:11] <izzyb_> pteague, was that for me?
[06:11] <pteague> yes
[06:11] <pteague> izzyb_> i guess another question is do you know whether your cpu fan is working or not?
[06:11] <izzyb_> crap, box just crashed.  its at the link though
[06:12] <izzyb_> yeah, I added extra fans to the box also, so I don't think this is heat releated
[06:13] <izzyb_> "Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz"
[06:19] <izzyb_> root
[06:22] <pteague> izzyb_>  have you used the box for something else before or is it a new box?
[06:24] <surgy> my sound wont work......
[06:24] <surgy> i had no problems in kubuntu 7.10
[06:26] <surgy> my sound works with vlc
[06:26] <izzyb_> pteague, I used it as a temporary server running a debian netinstall.  Nothing too fancy
[06:26] <surgy> but not for firefox....
[06:27] <surgy> can anyone help?
[06:27] <Choreboy> I broke Dolphin! I am trying to mount my windows partition, it asks for my PW which I enter, then it hangs at "loading directory"
[06:27] <izzyb_> pteague, and it didn't have much of a load on it.  I used it to do some hard drive backups and such at one point where I mounted a slave ide drive in the box to copy its data
[06:28] <izzyb_> did the same with a usb drive
[06:28] <jonfhancock> Choreboy: I hate dolphin.. I generally prefer konqueror
[06:28] <Choreboy> I've done this successfully before... what could be wrong?
[06:28] <izzyb_> pteague, only thing that is really new to the box is the ATI x300 card which I've just pulled out
[06:28] <Choreboy> jonfhancock: Will that let me mount my partition so I can copy a file to it?
[06:29] <jonfhancock> Konqueror is a full-featured file browser as well as web browser.
[06:29] <jonfhancock> If you're having trouble mounting, try mounting from the command line
[06:29] <Choreboy> well then what is Dolphin doing in the mix of Konqueror is a do-all?
[06:29] <izzyb_> interesting... I'm getting a kernel bug error on startup now
[06:30] <jonfhancock> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[06:30] <jonfhancock> where /dev/sda1 is your windows partition and /media/windows is a folder that already exists
[06:30] <pteague> izzyb_> k, wasn't sure if there just might be some kind of problem with the hardware :)  i've had the same issue with a mobo that i had used before, but i put it in a different case & certain things didn't line up completely correctly & screwing 1 of the expansion cards down tight must have caused a short after it got warm cause it'd suddenly freeze after about 5 mins of running
[06:30] <izzyb_> kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/debian/build/custom-source-xen/arch/x86/mm/fault_32-xen.c:357
[06:30] <Choreboy> konqueror can't mount it and doesn't even ask me for a password
[06:30] <surgy> anyone?
[06:31] <pteague> also had friends working at a place where their server was doing the same thing... it'd get hot enough & it'd short, they couldn't get the company to replace it so they gave it a bath so the company they worked at would have to replace it
[06:31] <Stale> Does anyone know what kde uses to determine whether or not to put something mounted in /media in system:/media ? I mount an intranet ftp server via FUSE to /media/ftpservername and I'd like it to show up for system use (ie where save dialogs use system:/ etc). Anyone have any hints for someone that's about exhausted his research abilities on the net?
[06:31] <jonfhancock> Choreboy: I have no idea, but in 2 years, I have never used dolphin.  and my desktop has 7 partitions acros 3 hard drives.  I keep them all mounted all the time though
[06:32] <Choreboy> jonfhancock: Konsole gave me some useful info I did not know. You can't mount a hibernated windows partition.
[06:32] <jonfhancock> ah
[06:32] <jonfhancock> there you go.  I didn't know that either.  Konsole never fails to reveal more info
[06:32] <Choreboy> this answers my question as to why it works sometimes and not other times.
[06:33] <Choreboy> alright then, thanks for the assist!
[06:33] <jonfhancock> you bet
[06:33] <surgy> umm can someone help me diagnose a sound problem?
[06:34] <Stale> Choreboy: you can force ntfs-3g
[06:34] <Stale> I've done that. But, I'd only do that in read-only mode ;)
[06:34] <Stale> The hibernate things is annoying. :)
[06:35] <Choreboy> Stale: how do I do that?
[06:35] <Choreboy> Stale: I need writeability
[06:35] <Choreboy> unless someone knows how I can get XP to read an XFS partition?
[06:35] <surgy> it seams like i have everything I need to make my sound work, i just assume that one setting is off somewhere...... i had my sound working for vlc the other day, and now its not working for anything.... can soemone help?
[06:36] <jonfhancock> Choreboy: I would play it safe and just boot to windows and shut it down fully
[06:36] <morphius>  I am having trouble: fdisk -l shows /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc as recognized drives. df -h -a shows that root is running off of /dev/hda. I should have 5 drives total. what can I do to get my drives back? running gutsy.
[06:36] <Choreboy> jonfhancock: sage advice.
[06:36] <Stale> choreboy: man ntfs-3g
[06:36] <izzyb_> morphius, fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:36] <Stale> it's like --force or something, but I forget
[06:37] <Choreboy> Stale: that's read-only, yes?
[06:37] <Stale> can be both
[06:37] <izzyb_> morphius, I'm not sure what causes some drives not to show, but specifying the drive usually displays it correctly
[06:37] <Stale> but writing to a hibernated ntfs window partition isn't something i'd personally do is all ;)
[06:37] <izzyb_> maybe try sudo fdisk -l
[06:37] <Choreboy> oh my. I'm very wary of doing that. I have no reason to tempt fate at the moment so I think I'll do it the long way
[06:38] <morphius> Ah hah. Running sudo fdisk -l will give me all my drives!
[06:38]  * morphius kicks self
[06:38] <Choreboy> Does anyone know of something that will enable XP to read XFS partition?
[06:38]  * morphius grins sheepishly
[06:38] <Choreboy> that would be mighty handy.
[06:39] <pteague> not xfs, but there's a driver to get windows to read ext2/ext3 drives
[06:39] <Choreboy> yeah I read about that, but in my endeavor to eek out every inch of performance I can, I chose XFS for the minor gain in throughput
[06:40] <pteague> i just wish microsoft would grow up & admit all their stuff is crap & start using real software
[06:41]  * Stale holds breath for that moment
[06:41]  * Stale dies
[06:41] <pteague> hehe
[06:41] <Choreboy> stale don't do it! It ain't gonna happen
[06:41] <Choreboy> breathe!
[06:41] <Dad> What is the fastest way to locate files on the hard drive?
[06:41] <Stale> hehe
[06:41] <pteague> they could start by actually allowing multiple real fs to be used
[06:41] <QwertyM> does PyQt4 come bundled with Kubuntu like PyGTK comes with Ubuntu?
[06:42] <micha__> hi all, is it normal that the kdm.log is 5gb big and the xorg.0.log 2gb? or should i be worried
[06:42] <Choreboy> pteague: even if they don't bundle it with windows, at least make it available in some form.
[06:43] <RancidKraut> In Kate Configuration, what's the difference between Editing>General>Tabulators and Editing>Indentation>Indentation Properties?
[06:43] <favro> Dad: update the database if it hasn't been - sudo updatedb - then  loate filename
[06:43] <favro> *locate
[06:46] <Dad> favro, many thanks!
[06:46] <favro> np Dad
[06:50] <surgy> seams as if i turn on "PCM sound" in k-mix i can here mono sound through my left speaker only in vlc and no sound in firefox
[06:51] <surgy> i guess no one has ever had my sound problem?
[06:51] <o0Chris0o> !sound
[06:55] <surgy> when i use the command lspci -v and look under the subsection 'multimedia audio controller' it says "Capabilities: <access denied>" is this normal? or could this be my problem? do i not have permissions to use my sound card?
[06:56] <pteague> run as sudo
[06:57] <izzyb_> can anyone recommend a video card that works with compiz and dual head display?
[06:57]  * izzyb_ starting to think this ati x300 is my problem
[06:57] <surgy> nvidia 6800 GS
[06:57] <pteague> i've got an nvidia 8600gts that does
[06:58] <surgy> ok that link ubotu gave didnt help me much
[06:58] <pteague> did you try `sudo lspci -v` ?
[06:59] <surgy> yes
[06:59] <surgy> and it showed the cababilities of the card
[07:00] <surgy> and my sound system passed all the tests.....
[07:00] <surgy> the driver is installed, the hardware is functioning, and i can get mono output from vlc player, so why isnt everything else working?
[07:01] <pteague> & arts is running? hmm... i wonder if things are trying to run on 1 of the other sound systems?
[07:02] <o0Chris0o> makre sure everything isn't muted
[07:02] <surgy> well it works on one channel with pcm turned all the way up, and only with vlc player
[07:02] <o0Chris0o> and enabled in kmix
[07:02] <hsystemx> :P
[07:03] <surgy> everything is turned all the way up
[07:03] <o0Chris0o> even front speakers?
[07:03] <o0Chris0o> have you checked "alsamixer" in the terminal?
[07:04] <surgy> everything is all the way up
[07:04] <o0Chris0o> what is your sound card?
[07:04] <surgy> via ac97
[07:04] <surgy> integrated
[07:05] <hsystemx> !nvidia
[07:05] <surgy> !msg
[07:05] <o0Chris0o> I would suggest you to  go to #alsa they can help you greatly :)
[07:06] <FuriousGeorge> hey all, just got an old laptup, wanted to give *buntu a try...  how come i dont have 'make' and i can't sudo apt-get make?
[07:07] <Jucato> !compile | FuriousGeorge
[07:07] <pteague> aptitude search make
[07:07] <surgy> ./make
[07:08] <hsystemx> !flash
[07:08] <surgy> ok #alsa is dead silent
[07:08] <surgy> adobe has a flash player plugin for firefox running under linux
[07:08] <noaXess> hi all..
[07:08] <FuriousGeorge> Jucato: cant find package build-essential
[07:09] <Jucato> hm...
[07:09] <FuriousGeorge> just like it cant find make
[07:09] <noaXess> as a fan and user and techi of kubuntu :) i NEED a t-shirt or sime other accesoirs.. :) does anybody has a good link for those?
[07:09] <surgy> !repositories | FuriousGeorge
[07:09] <pteague> apt-get install make build-essential ... notice *install* :)
[07:10] <hsystemx> how to install build essential ... if it isnt available at repos.
[07:10] <hsystemx> ? for hard y
[07:10] <hsystemx> 8.04
[07:10] <noaXess> hsystemx: it is..
[07:11] <noaXess> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:11] <pteague> do `aptitude search make`
[07:11] <noaXess> or go to the package manager and select build-essetail
[07:11] <hsystemx> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[07:11] <surgy> or try this
[07:11] <hsystemx> im not a noob at linux... i also have all repos enable.
[07:11] <FuriousGeorge> which repository do i have to uncomment to get 'make' so i can install the module for my wireless nic?
[07:11] <surgy> sudo apt-cache search build-essential
[07:12] <surgy> man this sound thing sucks
[07:12] <surgy> and no one in alsa is saying anything
[07:15] <o0Chris0o> patience man
[07:16] <hsystemx> em still cant install build-essential, do i have to upgrade everything?
[07:16] <hsystemx> weird...
[07:17] <FuriousGeorge> i cant even enable the correct repos as described here...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:17] <hsystemx> #ubuntru
[07:17] <hsystemx> #ubuntu
[07:17] <FuriousGeorge> thats not what happens when i 'manage repositories'
[07:17] <surgy> ok i got my stereo working by turning off the external amplifier in the kmix settings, but i still get no audio from anything other than vlc player....
[07:17] <FuriousGeorge> anyone know what repo i need to add to install make?
[07:18] <FuriousGeorge> i dont understand why that doesnt install by default with gcc and isnt in the default packages
[07:20] <Agent_bob> is there a way to rebuild the list of installed packages ?
[07:20] <hobgoblin> where can i find a list of all the programs installed on my system?
[07:20] <Agent_bob> hobgoblin dpkg -l
[07:21] <hobgoblin> Agent_bob thanks
[07:21] <Agent_bob> snowolf: is there a way to rebuild the list of installed packages ?
[07:21] <Agent_bob> not snowolf     ;/
[07:21] <Agent_bob> anyone
[07:21] <hobgoblin> how do you output a command to a text file?
[07:21] <hobgoblin> hah
[07:22] <Agent_bob> redirrection is   >   and  >>     both of which will naturally redirrecr standard out "stdout"   using  2>  and 2>>   will redirrect standard error  'stderr'
[07:23] <cq> how di I add a vista partition toa new kubuntu install? is theer a k-something tool, or do I edit /etc/fstab?
[07:23] <Agent_bob> hobgoblin but that's not what you want.
[07:23] <Agent_bob> hobgoblin try piping into less     dpkg -l | less
[07:23] <posingaspopular> cq: kmenu->systemsettings->advanced settings
[07:24] <Agent_bob> cq or edit fstab
[07:25] <posingaspopular> well assuming you dont want to, or dont know how to, edit fstab
[07:25] <pteague> is there a gui for setting up lvm ?
[07:25] <surgy> this is rediculous, it worked without even having to give it a second though on 7.10
[07:26] <Stale> Does anyone know what kde uses to determine whether or not to put something mounted in /media in system:/media ? I mount an intranet ftp server via FUSE to /media/ftpservername and I'd like it to show up for system use (ie where save dialogs use system:/ etc). Can anyone offer a hint? I still haven't found anything.
[07:26] <Agent_bob> so i don't supose there is a way to search for installed packages and build a dpkg database from the results...    not an easy way anyhow
[07:27] <Dad> Agent_bob, google "rebuild installed packages"
[07:28] <Agent_bob>  Your search - "rebuild installed packages" - did not match any documents.
[07:29] <cq> try without the quotes?
[07:29] <cq> otherwise man dpkg, man apt,...
[07:29] <cq> or look in /usr/share/doc/dpkg etc.
[07:29] <Agent_bob> dir /usr/share/doc does not exist here
[07:30] <cq> ??!? weird, what system do you have installed?
[07:30] <Dad> Agent_bob, works for me. Here is the first url found: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/examples/debian-package-database-rebuild
[07:30] <cq> is it quite old? might be usr/doc then
[07:32] <Agent_bob> no /usr/share/doc didn't make the transfer from the old disk.   so it's not there now
[07:32] <surgy> check this
[07:32] <surgy> http://www.pastebin.ca/1019832
[07:33] <surgy> but i hear nothing.... and when vlc plays a movie i get perfect sound
[07:35] <Agent_bob> that script is extreemly convoluted,    it uses  apt-get dist-upgrade   multiple times and then  "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/* "     looks like an accident looking for a plase to hose something
[07:35] <cq> Agent_bob: what are you trying to do, migrate a system?
[07:36] <Agent_bob> cq no.   just rebuild the installed package list
[07:36] <cq> but why?
[07:36] <Agent_bob> i have some things installed that dpkg doesn't know about
[07:36] <Jucato> how was it installed?
[07:36] <Agent_bob> dpkg
[07:37] <Jucato> hm. weird indeed :)
[07:37] <Agent_bob> not really.  i merged two systems
[07:37] <Agent_bob> ;/
[07:37] <Jucato> hahah!
[07:37] <Agent_bob> unfortunately only one database survived
[07:37] <cq> do an apt-get update;apt-get upgrade to get everything up to date first
[07:38] <cq> look what packages are missind and apt-get install them
[07:38] <cq> might be easiest
[07:38] <cq> merged two systems??!? ugh.
[07:38] <Agent_bob> "what packages are missing"  ???
[07:38] <cq> you don't do that.  Merge the homes, OK, but not the installed packages, that's asking for trouble
[07:39] <Agent_bob> nah   no trouble.   just a few  fantom packages  :)))
[07:39] <cq> well, you said some are not in the list... apt-get install them
[07:40] <cq> look in /var/lib/dpkg that's where the list is
[07:40] <cq> and next time don't delere /usr/share/doc, that would tell you what's installed as well
[07:40] <Agent_bob> cq yeah.   it might be easiest to check my archive and just install everything i've downloaded over the last 3 years...
[07:41] <Agent_bob> "install them all and let apt sort them out"   kind of a thing,   to misquote...
[07:42] <cq> basically: yes ;)
[07:42] <dataflow> I NEED HELP
[07:42] <cq> otherwise try to diff the two status files from the two systems, that should give you a good starting point
[07:42] <dataflow> PLEASE
[07:42] <cq> dataflow: then dont use CAPS
[07:43] <dataflow> ok sorry
[07:43] <dataflow> me pueden ayudar
[07:43] <Agent_bob> and that script would have totally emptied my database... glad i didn't run it...
[07:44] <surgy> i guess everyone in #alsa is on vacation
[07:44] <Agent_bob> cq heh.  there arent two systems anymore... like i said i merged them
[07:45] <cq> you could just isntall everything and then deinstall all you don't need ... :)
[07:45] <hsystemx> #ubuntu
[07:45] <hsystemx> how do i change default soundcard...
[07:45] <Agent_bob> yeah ummm let me count how many packages that would be
[07:45] <hsystemx> asoundconf isnt working for me.
[07:46] <cq> Agent_bob: too many for your hard disks :)
[07:46] <Agent_bob> nah only about 3400
[07:46] <cq> Agent_bob: but seriously, many of the other packages will have dependencies, so it will update them and catch most anyway after a while
[07:47] <Agent_bob> i am serious.  i can do that  it's only 3467 packages and a great lot of them are already installed anyway
[07:47] <cq> you'll bloat your system for no reason, but it's your system...
[07:49] <Agent_bob> i can always do   apt-get remove perl* python*    and answer "Yes, do as I say!"  when it asks   that will debloat it
[07:52] <dataflow> HOLA
[07:52] <Agent_bob> looks like the "install them all..." way is going to fix it ok...
[07:53] <cq> then don't update package lists before...
[07:53] <Jabopz> My desktop shows a link to media, which is the partition that I'm booted off of (Weird), and when I try to open it i get this error
[07:53] <Jabopz> Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist
[07:53] <cq> otherwise you may get even more packages
[07:54] <surgy> ok well ill try again tommorow
[07:54] <surgy> thanks anyways guys
[07:54] <bradhex> Hello, I'm using kde 3.5.9. and I can not configure kicker due to library issues, specifically: kcm_kicker.la not found in paths. Any help?
[07:54] <Agent_bob> everything is unpacking ok...
[07:55] <JAVI> CHE
[07:55] <FuriousGeorge> does the default wlanassistant not support wpa, or is that my driver?
[07:55] <JAVI> HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[07:55] <Agent_bob> i like the nick FuriousGeorge :)     but can't answer your Q.  ;/
[07:56] <FuriousGeorge>  thanks, and np
[07:56] <cq> with 8.04 wlan with wpa works just fine for me
[07:56] <FuriousGeorge> Agent_bob: what do you use for wlan management?
[07:56] <cq> knetworkmanager
[07:56] <Agent_bob> FuriousGeorge i don't do wireless
[07:57] <Agent_bob> wireless is kin to saten
[07:57] <Jucato> JAVI: don't do that again if you want to remain in here
[07:57] <FuriousGeorge> its ny first time too, but this is a laptop
[07:58] <JAVI> i need help
[07:58] <JAVI> for my laptop
[07:58]  * Agent_bob wonders what it being a lappy has to do with that...
[07:58] <Agent_bob> !help | JAVI
[08:01] <Agent_bob> JAVI let me try to be nice for a minute and explain.   if you have an issue, you need to suscintly describe the problem, descrive what you have now and what you want.  then people in here can "try" to come up with way for you to achieve that desired end result
[08:01] <Agent_bob> ways
[08:01] <JAVI> i need install xpde i dont now
[08:01] <Agent_bob> !info xpde
[08:02] <JAVI> install
[08:02] <Agent_bob> what is xpde ?
[08:02] <JAVI> for kubuntu
[08:03] <Agent_bob> yeah you need help with that alright
[08:04] <Agent_bob> looks like it comes as a tarball
[08:04] <Agent_bob> !source
[08:04] <Agent_bob> man these infonodes are all messed up now days
[08:04] <Agent_bob> or i am one
[08:05] <Agent_bob> !tar.gz
[08:05] <Agent_bob> !be
[08:05] <JAVI> aaaaaa
[08:05] <FuriousGeorge> hmm
[08:05] <FuriousGeorge> knetworkmanager doesnt launch and doesnt output a reason to the standard error
[08:05] <FuriousGeorge> so what else do we use for wlan management
[08:05] <Agent_bob> !build-essential
[08:05] <FuriousGeorge> my driver seems to support wpa, so i guess these apps dont
[08:05] <Agent_bob> JAVI    ^
[08:06] <JAVI> your make install xpde in my laptop in remote desktop
[08:06] <Agent_bob> FuriousGeorge did you try launching it in a terminal to see if it gave an error message in stdout ?
[08:07] <FuriousGeorge> yes
[08:07] <FuriousGeorge> Agent_bob: ^
[08:07] <Agent_bob> and nothing ?
[08:07] <Agent_bob> 'daz odd     most things will tell you something about what went left
[08:10] <JAVI> the password in remote desktop is¿
[08:10] <JAVI> krcd
[08:11] <Agent_bob> oh cq (even though i don't recognize the new mask...) you made referance to my disk size   this is a different box  i even have a partition here    and about 74g free space...    feels like lots of room.
[08:11] <Agent_bob> JAVI they are your passwords not mine...
[08:12] <JAVI> agent you can inside mi lptop
[08:13]  * Agent_bob refuses to answer that on the grounds that it might incriminate the us gov.
[08:14] <JAVI> i need you inside mi laptop for fix
[08:15] <JAVI> agent
[08:15] <JAVI> for install xpde
[08:15] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:15] <Agent_bob> unpack the source tarball
[08:15] <smeril> HI
[08:15] <Agent_bob> cd into the dirrectory it makes when unpacked
[08:16] <smeril> i managed to change the settings in sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:16] <Agent_bob> in a terminal ^
[08:16] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde
[08:16] <smeril> and now every time i am trying to go back gedit freaze
[08:16] <JAVI> General installation instructions:
[08:16] <JAVI>  -Decompress the tar.gz in /usr/share as root
[08:16] <JAVI>  -Edit the .xinitrc file of the user you want to run XPde and put this line:
[08:17] <JAVI>  /usr/share/xpde/bin/startxpde
[08:17] <JAVI>  -Start X
[08:17] <JAVI>
[08:17] <ct529> I have tried to update to kde 404 following the instructions but nothing happens .... are the pacakges broken in the repository?
[08:17] <JAVI> If you want to use another installation directory, just edit the startxpde script.
[08:17] <JAVI> If you want to post specific installation instructions for any distro, please, use the forums.
[08:17] <JAVI> Changes on this release:
[08:17] <JAVI> -Finally the Start Menu has been included and the "desktop paradigm" is complete.
[08:17] <JAVI> -Updated to the last unnoficial K3 patch
[08:17] <JAVI> -A bug fixed updating desktop contents
[08:17] <JAVI> -A bug fixed on the taskbar
[08:17] <Agent_bob> eeek it's a binary
[08:17] <JAVI> How you can help?
[08:17] <JAVI> -The project can be divided right now in:
[08:17] <Agent_bob> did you try doing what the instructions said ?
[08:17] <JAVI>  *Desktop: The background with icons
[08:18] <JAVI>  *Window Manager: The part responsible to manage windows
[08:18] <JAVI>  *Taskbar: The area where tasks reside
[08:18] <JAVI>  *Start Menu: The menu that shows all the options to the user
[08:18] <JAVI> The next release is going to be focused adding capabilities to the desktop, so if you want to help, just tell me which things do you want to get included.
[08:18] <JAVI> Sorry to all the people has sent me an e-mail, I will try to answer as soon as possible.
[08:18] <JAVI> Please, feel free to use the forums and mailing lists to post your comments.
[08:18] <JAVI> yes
[08:18] <JAVI> i can t
[08:18] <Agent_bob> why not ?
[08:18] <smeril> anybody who know how to get back my network settings?
[08:18] <cq> JAVI: Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:19] <Agent_bob> smeril   sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[08:19] <flowingfire> Hey guys.
[08:19] <smeril> when i go there the editor freaze i fol
[08:19] <Agent_bob> pay attention
[08:19] <Agent_bob> smeril   sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces   <<< not gedit
[08:19] <flowingfire> I have a pretty easy question if y'all can help
[08:20] <JAVI> because i now install
[08:20] <smeril> i chaged there before because i wanted to change mac and now it wont let me back in
[08:20] <Agent_bob> see nano   see  ^
[08:20] <smeril> i foloved these instructions http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
[08:20] <JAVI> aaaaaaaaa
[08:20] <Agent_bob> run nano run
[08:20] <flowingfire> : : How do I boot into the console directly?  I know it has something to do with user levels.  . . . But what's the process?
[08:20] <JAVI> thanks
[08:21] <Agent_bob> flowingfire runlevel one
[08:21] <flowingfire> ... How do I get to runlevel one?
[08:21] <Agent_bob> flowingfire you can append   single  or 1 to the kernel line at boot time
[08:22] <flowingfire> how do i do that, Agent_bob?
[08:22] <flowingfire> :)
[08:22] <Agent_bob> flowingfire if you are using grub   you use the edit key {e}
[08:22] <flowingfire> oh kewl.  and I just add the number 1?
[08:22] <Agent_bob> yes.   and enter  then [b] to boot it
[08:23] <flowingfire> so the letter E is the edit key?
[08:23] <Agent_bob> flowingfire it will be about this many keys.    [e] [e] [down-arrow] [e] 1 [enter] [b]
[08:24] <Agent_bob> yes.
[08:24] <flowingfire> oh kewl. :)
[08:24] <JAVI> yes
[08:24] <Agent_bob> flowingfire  the first key may need to be [esc] rather than [e]    you can check.
[08:24] <Agent_bob> flowingfire be sure to add it to the "kernel" line
[08:24] <flowingfire> Thanks. :)
[08:24] <flowingfire> ok
[08:25] <flowingfire> yayy I'm going to have to go try this now. :)
[08:26] <Agent_bob> if you were using lilo it's even easer   up/down arrows then 1 and enter
[08:27] <Agent_bob> of course all that assumes that your boot loader is not password protected
[08:27] <ct529> I have tried to update to kde 404 following the instructions but nothing happens .... are the pacakges broken in the repository?
[08:27] <Agent_bob> heh 404 in http is page not found
[08:28] <JAVI> file:///home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/applets
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/defaultdesktop
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/bplXPColorSelect.so
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/startxpde
[08:28] <JAVI> tar:/home/dataflow/xpde-0.5.1.tar.gz/xpde/bin/xpde
[08:28] <Agent_bob> good buy JAVI
[08:28] <JAVI> ok
[08:28] <JAVI> good
[08:29] <JAVI> i have many bin s
[08:29] <o0Chris0o> !paste
[08:31]  * ct529 wonders if 404 in kde is file not found .... :)
[08:31] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:32] <Agent_bob> looks like database restored.
[08:35] <JAVI>  http://eclipse.org/downloads/ -
[08:35] <JAVI> !SESSION 2005-10-31 00:19:28.817 -----------------------------------------------eclipse.buildId=M20050929-0840
[08:35] <JAVI> java.version=1.4.2_09
[08:35] <JAVI> java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
[08:35] <JAVI> BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86_64, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
[08:35] <JAVI> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86_64
[08:37] <JAVI> !SESSION 2005-10-31 00:19:28.817 -----------------------------------------------eclipse.buildId=M20050929-0840
[08:37] <JAVI> java.version=1.4.2_09
[08:37] <JAVI> java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
[08:37] <JAVI> BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86_64, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
[08:37] <JAVI> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86_64
[08:40] <JAVI> Coding for cross platform deployment with gcc/g++:
[08:40] <favro> !flood
[08:40] <favro> JAVI: ^^
[08:40] <JAVI> #ifdef sparc
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI> #endif
[08:40] <JAVI> #ifdef linux
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI> #endif
[08:40] <JAVI> #ifdef __CYGWIN32
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI> #endif
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI> #if defined(linux) || defined(sparc)
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI> #endif
[08:40] <cq> JAVI: STOP PASTING here... read the !paste infos!
[08:40] <JAVI> ...
[08:40] <JAVI>  Example C/C++ source code 2:
[08:40] <cq> !paste
[08:40] <JAVI>
[08:41] <JAVI> #ifdef sgi
[08:41] <JAVI>     return fn_sgi();
[08:41] <JAVI> #elif defined(__CYGWIN32)
[08:41] <JAVI>     return fn_win();
[08:41] <JAVI> #elif defined(linux)
[08:41] <JAVI>     return fn_linux();
[08:41] <cq> any operators in here?
[08:41] <JAVI> #else
[08:41] <JAVI>     struct time ts;
[08:41] <JAVI>     return fn_time();
[08:41] <JAVI> #endif
[08:41] <JAVI> ...
[08:41] <JAVI>    OR
[08:41] <JAVI> #ifdef sgi
[08:41] <JAVI>     #include file_sgi.h
[08:41] <JAVI> #elif defined(sparc)
[08:41] <JAVI>     #include file_sparc.h
[08:41] <JAVI> #elif defined(linux)
[08:41] <JAVI>     #include file_linux.h
[08:41] <JAVI> #else
[08:41] <favro> !ops | JAVI
[08:41] <JAVI>     #error Unknown OS type
[08:41] <JAVI> #endif
[08:41] <JAVI> ...
[08:41] <JAVI> ok no more bin
[08:41] <JAVI> ok sorry
[08:42] <kloeri> JAVI: don't flood please - use a pastebin instead
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> !paste | JAVI
[08:43] <JAVI> thanks a lot
[08:43] <JAVI> www.dataflow.es.tl
[08:47] <JAVI> my web
[08:47] <JAVI> http://codepad.org/
[08:48] <favro> !ot  | JAVI
[08:48] <JAVI> ok ubottu
[08:51] <JAVI> ubottu
[08:51] <lookin_kubu> hi
[08:51] <JAVI> hi
[08:52] <lookin_kubu> I made it here tonite, will save all the stupid newbie questions for tomorrow :)
[08:53] <JAVI> jjja
[08:54] <JAVI> que mas hacen aca aparte de entrar al chat y salir?
[08:55] <Jucato> !es | JAVI
[08:55] <shaffy> can someone tell me how i can find out the UUID for my swap space?
[08:56] <Jucato> !uuid
[08:56] <JAVI> ubottu only you forever
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> ubottu: kicks ass
[08:57] <JAVI> ubottu use a pastebin instead
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> !paste | ubottu
[08:59] <Jucato> stop playing with the bot
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:00] <shaffy> thanks Jucato,  appreciated.
[09:01] <zfm> hello
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> hi zfm
[09:25] <cq> is there a list of packages for kubuntu somewhere? keepassx is in at version 0.2.2, but 0.3.1 is out ...
[09:26] <cq> debian has packages.debian.org
[09:26] <llutz> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:28] <cq> ah, just tried kubuntu, not ubuntu :)
[09:28] <llutz> they use the same packages
[09:29] <cq> maybe you could put a redirect on packages.kubuntu.org ...
[09:41] <cq> if a new upstream version is available, do you file a bug on the package?
[09:43] <llutz> why should one? *buntu has fixed release-cycles, only security-updates will come between to releases
[09:44] <llutz> cq: if you always want newest stuff, use a "rolling-release" Distro like sidux/arch
[09:44] <cq> not always, but a lot has happened in that package
[09:45] <llutz> make your own package
[10:05] <o0Chris0o> whats the command to look at the running vid cards and audio?
[10:05] <Chrysalis> how do i add a new process at start up
[10:07] <Chrysalis> the equivalent to Preferences --> Sessions 'add' in gnome
[10:08] <pcxeon2> hello
[10:09] <ecole> test
[10:09] <pcxeon2> salut
[10:09] <ecole> tu sux
[10:11] <Jucato> !autostart | Chrysalis
[10:11] <ecole> tg
[10:12] <Chrysalis> Jucato: thanks
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[10:13] <o0Chris0o> !ops pcxeon2 flooding channel
[10:13] <pcxeon2>
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[10:14] <llutz> would someone (op) pls bring pcxeon2 back to his nanny?
[10:14] <pcxeon2>
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[10:14] <Jucato> !ops | pcxeon2
[10:14] <pcxeon2>
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[10:14] <o0Chris0o> ty Jucato
[10:14] <pcxeon2>
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[10:14] <pcxeon2>
[10:14] <kloeri> pcxeon2: don't flood
[10:15] <bazhang> pcxeon2, what is the problem
[10:15] <o0Chris0o> dang
[10:16] <o0Chris0o> being flooded are we
[10:16] <bazhang> !netsplit
[10:16] <o0Chris0o> :)
[10:17] <kevin_> Hi all !
[10:19] <kevin_> cavelier parle un peu pcq moi je voi ien
[10:19] <kevin_> *rien
[10:19] <o0Chris0o> French?
[10:19] <kevin_> Yes french
[10:19] <o0Chris0o> !fr
[10:20] <kevin_> si sa te plait pas gros tu gicle et tu me casse pas les couilles
[10:20] <kevin_> va niquer ta grosse mére !
[10:21] <kevin_> connard va
[10:21] <kevin_> English's language of PD
[10:21] <Jucato> kevin_: English only in here
[10:21] <bazhang> kevin_, that is not very nice
[10:21] <kevin_> the english was a fucking language
[10:21] <Jucato> !language | kevin_
[10:21] <Jucato> then go to #kubuntu-fr if you want to speak french
[10:21] <kevin_> je vous encule tous !
[10:21] <llutz> don't feed the troll, kick/ban him
[10:21] <ct529_> kevin_: you can get banned for much less than you said
[10:22] <kevin_> et ben vas-y j'attends
[10:22] <kevin_> ta bien du mal !
[10:22] <bazhang> he is speaking very foul language
[10:22] <kevin_> y a de l'ambiance ici !
[10:22] <llutz> !ops | kevin_
[10:22] <kevin_> et alors sa te géne
[10:22] <Jucato> Riddell or kloeri please?
[10:23] <kevin_> et ben nan !
[10:23]  * o0Chris0o slaps Kevin_ with linux box
[10:23] <kloeri> kevin_: #kubuntu-fr is for you
[10:23] <kloeri> kevin_: this is an english speaking channel
[10:24] <kevin_> ciao les nazes
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> o/
[10:29] <bascule> hi
[10:31] <Giant_Speck> I have a question.  I'm thinking of using metacity in Kubuntu in order to use this theme I really like, but I don't know how to access metacity settings in Kubuntu.
[10:32] <Giant_Speck> I know to type in metacity --replace
[10:32] <Giant_Speck> But that's about all I know.
[10:32] <Giant_Speck> I have Metacity installed because I have GNOME, too.
[10:33] <favro> Giant_Speck: does man metacity give anything?
[10:33] <_2> why is /usr/bin/txt a symlink to host ?    even the man page is a link ... ?
[10:35] <_2> looks like /usr/bin/zone is also linked to host ....
[10:35] <podecoet> I just bought a core2duo machine, which ISO file should I use to install kubuntu?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Giant_Speck: try logging off then changing you environment to metacity
[10:35] <podecoet> amd64?
[10:35] <bascule> either will work
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> podecoet: 64bit if the cpu is 64 bit, otherwise i386 for 32 bit
[10:35] <bascule> 64 is less mature
[10:35] <podecoet> ...with openSuse I could only see 3.2GB of my 4GB of ram lol
[10:35] <Giant_Speck> Metacity isn't an option when I do that.  It's a window manager, not an environment.
[10:36] <podecoet> apaprently that's due to isntalling a 32bit OS
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Giant_Speck: thats what i meant
[10:36] <_2> podecoet i saw a fellow earler that said with ubuntu he could only see 3g of his 4g of ram
[10:36] <bascule> yes, there are work arounds, but if you have 4GB that is as good a reason as an to go 64
[10:36] <wstephenson> moin, who's using kde 4 here?
[10:37] <Giant_Speck> I know how to initiate metacity by typing "metacity --replace" into the console, but from there I do not know how to install that actual theme.
[10:37] <wstephenson> can one of you tell me the file name of the kde4 systemsettings .desktop file?
[10:37] <Giant_Speck> Wait a second.
[10:37] <wstephenson> is it kde4-systemsettings.desktop or systemsettings.desktop ?
[10:37] <bascule> surely the first :)
[10:38] <bazhang> wstephenson, #kubuntu-kde4 would know best :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: me, wassup
[10:38] <wstephenson> ActionParsnip: see question ^
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> wstephenson: i had it briefly but may be able to help. Its still a bit twitchy at the moment
[10:38] <Pennycook> wstephenson: What do you need the name of the .desktop for?
[10:38] <wstephenson> ActionParsnip: as long as you haven't uninstalled it you can help
[10:39] <wstephenson> Pennycook: debugging something in kickoff.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yeah i did
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> i ripped it out good and fast
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> not worth it
[10:40] <_2> man there's a lot of scripts in /usr/bin/
[10:42] <_2> 557 of them
[10:43] <Riddell> wstephenson: /usr/share/applications/kde4/systemsettings.desktop
[10:52] <pillolo> si possono fare domande??
[10:52] <_2> root who
[10:53] <Jucato> !it | pillolo
[10:54] <pillolo> excuse me
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> pillolo: its a factiod redirecting nonenglish typers to their relevant rooms
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> pillolo: there are loads
[11:02] <danielv> Hello! anyone interested in syncronization? trying to connect E61 to KDE PIM, only partially successful
[11:03] <Jucato> there! working again :)
[11:03] <danielv> Anyone had success with kitchensync and either of those?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> nice name, never used it though
[11:15] <_2> xpde  hmm     pfft some people will do anything to waste their time...
[11:20] <_2> oops  error   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7d68f167
[11:20] <_2> does that mean that the thing crapped out ?
[11:23] <_2> i'll test it...   it looks too small tho.   2m
[11:28] <danielv_> kick danielv
[11:28] <sigma_1234> does openoffice 3 beta integrate in kde4 properly or does it adopt kde3 styles?
[11:32] <cameo> sdf
[11:33] <cameo> what
[11:34] <cameo> what going on here
[11:34] <cameo> tell me
[11:34] <cameo> anybody
[11:34] <sysstemlord> hi, is there an alternative to mplayer in kubuntu? mplayer firefox plugin doesn't seem to work well.
[11:35] <Jucato> !info kaffeine-mozilla
[11:35] <ErkiDerLoony> Hi!
[11:36] <ErkiDerLoony> Does anyone know which package I have to install to have the "style" module installed for kcmshell4?
[11:36] <Jucato> ErkiDerLoony: #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[11:37] <ErkiDerLoony> Ah, sorry. :)
[11:37] <ErkiDerLoony> #join #kubuntu-kde4
[11:37] <holyguyve7> Hello, I restarted my computer & in both xchat & xchat--gnome my irc server lists got deleted. Is there anyway for me to fetch those lists or import them?
[11:38] <sysstemlord> kaffeine mozilla doesn't open real media
[11:38] <ErkiDerLoony> AFAIK real media is no good for linux!
[11:39] <Jucato> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:39] <Jucato> sysstemlord: ^^^
[11:39] <sysstemlord> vlc didn't work with quicktime
[11:40] <holyguyve7> Real Media has always been a joke, I have always disliked it because many of them are just streamer packages
[11:40] <sysstemlord> gstream in gnome is great, i wish there is something for kde like that
[11:40] <ErkiDerLoony> Why not use gstream with kde?
[11:40] <sysstemlord> with which player?
[11:41] <gimli> salut tout le monde / hy everybody
[11:41] <Jucato> ErkiDerLoony: none of the KDE players use gstreamer
[11:41] <Jucato> KDE 3 players, of course
[11:41] <sysstemlord> in kde 4 it's possible?
[11:42] <Jucato> it will be possible thanks to Phonon
[11:42] <cq> is there a standard sound FAQ somewhere? my sound isn't working...
[11:42] <Jucato> !sound | cq
[11:46] <tzd> my bluetooth headset and mobile phone seems to be disconnected after a couple of seconds from my bluetooth device. The Bluetooth K icon turns blue when connected but after 1-2 seconds it turns grey. Can someone please help me?
[11:50] <pillolo> hi
[11:52] <fabio> hallo
[12:00] <cq> how do I see if teh ALSA drivers are installed? the soundcard is there sound is enabled
[12:01] <cq> card is an intel ich8
[12:01] <bascule> if you get a mixer running, the drivers are there
[12:02] <cq> the mixer is the soudn icon bottom right? that's there
[12:02] <bascule> yeah, if you can openit up and move sliders, then drivers are working
[12:02] <cq> but in the sound settings, clocking the test button doesn't produce sound...
[12:03] <bascule> hmm
[12:03] <cq> that's all there...
[12:04] <cq> ctrl-g in a terminal doesn't even beep
[12:05] <sysstemlord> system settings>sound system>hardware
[12:05] <cq> any other ideas?
[12:05] <sysstemlord> what's there?
[12:05] <cq> it's set to autodetect
[12:05] <cq> nothing checked
[12:06] <sysstemlord> restarting doesn't help?
[12:06] <cq> trying now..., sec
[12:07] <cq> anything in dmesg that might help?
[12:09] <cq> no change...
[12:09] <cq> I installed ubuntu-desktop earlier, could that be conflicting?
[12:10] <sysstemlord> maybe something is muted
[12:10] <sysstemlord> PCM for example
[12:11] <cq> master and pcm both at 80% volume, I don't see any mutes
[12:11] <sysstemlord> hardware problem? speakers unplugged :) ?
[12:12] <cq> tried both with internal speakers and external stereo
[12:12] <cq> hardware problem: where do I look?
[12:14] <sysstemlord> if it was working before, then there is no reason to think it's hardware problem, it's just a guess that the sound card has a problem
[12:14] <cq> i just installed the system yesterdaay, no idea if it was working before
[12:14] <sysstemlord> but try other drivers instead of auto detect
[12:14] <cq> its a lenovo x61 laptop
[12:14] <sysstemlord> force it to use something else
[12:18] <cq> tried those, all don't work, open sound and threaded open sound report busy when I try the amarok welcome segment
[12:20] <sysstemlord> by the way i hear nothing when i put ctrl+g in the terminal
[12:20] <sysstemlord> but my sound works
[12:22] <sysstemlord> it's better to close amarok completely and test the sound in system setting>sound system
[12:24] <thnee> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php   should it really say "You must however supply the source code at cost"? shouldnt it be "at no cost"? =)
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> thnee: nope
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> "at cost" means "at a price no higher than that which covers transport/media costs"
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> you can charge for distribution of GPLed source code, but you aren't allowed to make a profit from that charge (i.e. you just charge for the cost of the disc / bandwidth if applicable).
[12:27] <thnee> SlimeyPete: orly
[12:27] <thnee> i know
[12:27] <thnee> that's why it sounded strange
[12:27] <cq> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/ There’s currently a bug in the latest stable version of the ALSA drivers (1.0.14). There is no sound with a HDA Intel ICH8 Family (rev 03) sound card.
[12:27] <cq> aaaah.... :)
[12:27] <thnee> so is kde 4.0.4 any good?
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> HDA + Linux == big_pile_of_fail
[12:28] <cq> thnee I asled yesterday, wait for 4.1 in july
[12:28] <cq> asked
[12:28] <thnee> is that so
[12:30] <cq> 4.0 is stable enough but not complete was the answer
[12:30] <thnee> i think i'll give it a try in that case
[12:31] <thnee> screenshots looks sooo pretty
[12:33] <cq> how do I activate teh backport repository? is that pre-released software or unsupported software under adept?
[12:35] <sysstemlord> i can see the linux backport modules hardy in the supported repository
[12:35] <lorna> any clever techies in here??
[12:36] <cq> have a look at the URL I posted please ... it tells me to install nstall linux-backports-modules-generic (or -i386) but I don't see either of them
[12:36] <shaneireland> anyone help me with a usb automounting problem in kubuntu
[12:37] <sysstemlord> i think the generic packages contains files for all versions, but you need only the one for hardy
[12:37] <shaneireland> will only recognise my EOS 350D if i run sudo lsusb then it picks it up straight away
[12:37] <shaneireland> :-P
[12:37] <cq> nm, just saw that with an apt-cache search...
[12:37] <sysstemlord> don't install the generic
[12:37] <shaneireland> anyone..
[12:38] <cq> yeah, hardy-386
[12:39] <adude> is there a way to download programs and put them on a cd?
[12:40] <shaneireland> hey adude i use k3b for burning stuff to cd
[12:42] <adude> when i download programs via Synaptic Package Manager where does it put them?
[12:42] <shaneireland> depends some of em go in as menu items.. others go in the /etc folder
[12:42] <cq> great, now the mixer is even dead
[12:43] <cq> you mean teh packages or the programs?
[12:43] <adude> the packages i guess
[12:44] <cq> I thought under /var/lib/dpkg or /var/lib/apt or /var/lib/aptitude or wherever
[12:44] <adude> i want to make a cd so i can give it to my Friend who doesn't have Internet.
[12:45] <favro> !aptoncd | adude
[12:46] <cq> is there a diff in installation or packages between the main and alternate CDs?
[12:47] <cq> i might try a reinstall with the alternate CD to see if I get sound
[12:49] <Coder2> Hello
[12:50] <Coder2> I've read about the kb layout switching bug, but on my system it does not work at all. please help!
[12:58] <_eMaX_> is there any way to make dolphin preview PDF documents?
[12:58] <_eMaX_> or some other "pdf browser"?
[12:58] <_eMaX_> I have directories with a massive amount of PDFs and I'd like to have some sort of preview
[12:59] <cq> nautilus seems to do it
[12:59] <cq> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/pdf-preview-in-nautilus-587033/
[13:00] <cq> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369239 konqueror should work too
[13:01] <Coder2> How to switch keyboard layout by hotkey ? Why only switching by mouse is working?
[13:02] <shaneireland> can anyone help me with a usb autmounting problem
[13:02] <_eMaX_> cq thanks. yes nautilus does it but the previews are very small. I can increase them using Ctrl+, but they do not get rendered better.
[13:04] <sysstemlord> coder what about the automounting?
[13:04] <sysstemlord> sorry, shaneireland
[13:05] <Coder2> Why after installing KDE4 and reboot I only see kde4 login screen, but after login I'm still in KDE3.5.9 ?
[13:06] <cq> Coder2: on the login screen click the little menu botton right ant select the window manager
[13:07] <Coder2> cq: Ok, I'll do it. Thanks. And how about switching keyboard layout by hotkey? Is it possible?
[13:07] <favro> !shortcuts
[13:08] <cq> coder2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237794
[13:09] <Coder2> cq: Thanks. I'll try right now.
[13:09] <Coder2> ubottu: There is no Keyboard andmouse there
[13:11] <abushady> hallo
[13:13] <abushady> i installed restricted nvidia driver but i can not use resolution more than 640x480
[13:13] <abushady> help please
[13:14] <cbx82> newbie: can anyone help me with a wireless networking issue?
[13:14] <Coder2> abushady: Have you installed NVidia X Server Settings also?
[13:16] <Coder2> abushady: And have yoy rebooted your system after the driver installation?
[13:16] <abushady> i rebooted system
[13:16] <araizen> whenever i mount my usb drive, either when it automounts or when i manually mount it, my regular user doesn't have write access to it
[13:16] <araizen> and changing the permissions doesn't work (i think it's fat16 formatted)
[13:16] <araizen> surely there must be a way to get write access to it, no?
[13:17] <thnee> ok so i installed kubuntu-desktop, selected kdm, logged out and back in, squat happened
[13:17] <abushady> Coder2: How can i install NVidia X Server and yes i rebooted system after the driver installation
[13:18] <_eMaX_> anyone tried to get xandros file manager to run on ubuntu?
[13:21] <abushady> Coder2: help please
[13:21] <Coder2> abushady: sudo aptitude install nvidia-settings
[13:22] <sysstemlord> araizen, can the root write to the usb drive?
[13:22] <araizen> yes
[13:22] <araizen> i kind of figured something out
[13:23] <araizen> i set it up as vfat in the system control
[13:23] <araizen> and set the user and group to my user
[13:24] <sysstemlord> in permissions, who is the owner down there?
[13:25] <araizen> in the system control?
[13:25] <cq> why is the firefox package pointing at a beta firefox (3.0b5)?
[13:25] <araizen> i now set it to be my username "araizen"
[13:25] <araizen> and i can mount it as my user
[13:25] <sysstemlord> no when you write click on the device icon and properties
[13:25] <Pennycook> cq: Because that's the default.
[13:25] <araizen> (but it doesn't automount unless i tell it to open a window in dolphin when it pops up, but that's a separate issue)
[13:26] <rwaan> bonjour
[13:26] <sysstemlord> i noticed that mounting from system control isn't a good idea, it's better to add a line to the file fstab
[13:26] <cq> its not released, not all extensions work for it, ... why is it default?
[13:26] <rwaan> oups.. french channel ?
[13:26] <rwaan> please
[13:26] <Pennycook> Because it's stable.  If you want to install firefox 2 you can
[13:26] <araizen> what do you mean when i right click on it?
[13:26] <araizen> from where other than system control?
[13:26] <araizen> there is now a line in fstab, what should it say?
[13:27] <araizen> system control put it in
[13:27] <sysstemlord> go to storage media, after you mount the device, you must see it there
[13:27] <thnee> what more than installing kubuntu-desktop do i have to do to get kubuntu from ubuntu?
[13:27] <cq> oh well...
[13:28] <sysstemlord> in fstab you can add something like this /dev/sdb1 /media/Passport defaults 0 0
[13:28] <cbx82> need help installing Broadcom BCM4318 802.11b/g Wireless Network Adapter
[13:28] <cq> in adept, what are the little KDE icons next to some of the packages?
[13:28] <araizen> user and group are araizen, owner is rw, group and other are r only
[13:28] <hsystemx> !nvidia
[13:28] <sysstemlord> ownership is also araizen?
[13:29] <shane_> im looking for a program that will run my ipod for installing new music and working with settings?any one know what to use
[13:29] <araizen> yes
[13:29] <araizen> fstab currently has this: /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,ro,users 0 0
[13:29] <araizen> i change that ro to rw?
[13:29] <sysstemlord> ro means read only
[13:29] <sysstemlord> remove it
[13:29] <sysstemlord> it's rw by default i think
[13:30] <sysstemlord> if u don't specify
[13:30] <shane_> for fstab
[13:30] <araizen> okay so i put rw, other lines say rw explicitly
[13:31] <sysstemlord> ok, but this file run on startup
[13:31] <araizen> okay worked, thanks
[13:31] <araizen> how do i change it not to run on startup?
[13:32] <sysstemlord> you mean u don't want it to automount?
[13:32] <sysstemlord> remove this line then
[13:33] <araizen> i want it to automount when i insert it, but it's generally not inserted at startup
[13:33] <abushady> i installed nvidia restricted driver but resolution can not be set more than 640x480
[13:33] <abushady> help
[13:33] <araizen> when i insert it, kde pops up dialogs asking what i want to do with it
[13:33] <araizen> if i say i want to open it, it's automounted when the dolphin window pops up
[13:34] <araizen> but i click on cancel, it doesn't get automounted
[13:34] <araizen> which is extremely annoying
[13:34] <araizen> is there a way to get it to just silently mount it when i insert it?
[13:35] <araizen> no actually i take that back
[13:36] <araizen> when i let kde mount it by opening a dolphin window i don't even have write access
[13:36] <Xbehave> araizen: there may be a way to silently mount alternatively saving do nothing will stop the popup
[13:36] <araizen> damn, is this like some complicated new technology that's hard to set up or something?
[13:36] <araizen> i'll just mount it manually
[13:36] <araizen> it's easier
[13:38] <sysstemlord> something is wrong, if i let dolphin mount my usb drive i can write to it
[13:38] <abushady> i installed nvidia restricted driver but resolution can not be set more than 640x480 any one help
[13:39] <Xbehave> the auto mounter thingy works fine for me, it mounts ro if the fat partition has errors on it, you can usaully right click the desktop icon and set rw
[13:39] <cq> can gnome apps be run under kde?
[13:39] <Xbehave> cq yes and under kde3 theres an apps that makes them look fine
[13:40] <cq> are just the gnome libs needed, or do you need to be in the gnome desktop?
[13:40] <cq> ok, thanks
[13:40] <cq> what's teh app?
[13:40] <Xbehave> just the libs for the app, i cant remember the name but IIRC its in kubuntu by default
[13:40] <shane_> anyone know if GnuCash  wil work in kubuntu or is that gnome
[13:41] <araizen> you can run any gnome application in kde, and vice versa
[13:41] <Xbehave> araizen: if you add it to mtab or something it should be remembers but thats a bit of a hastle
[13:41] <araizen> if you have the libs installed
[13:41] <araizen> might be a bit slower, but there will hardly be a difference
[13:41] <shane_> yes i was told kde is slow as heck in gnome
[13:42] <araizen> if you install the application with apt-get it will automatically install the necessary libs
[13:42] <sysstemlord> does anybody know why when i set a static IP address from my router, i cannot browse the windows network on another computer, but when i enable dhcp all works fine?
[13:42] <shane_> ok TY
[13:42] <besitzer> hello is anybody there
[13:42] <besitzer> ??
[13:42] <besitzer> i need your help
[13:42] <araizen> besitzer: no one is here
[13:43] <besitzer> :D
[13:43] <besitzer> ok
[13:43] <besitzer> i cant install programms of this notebook
[13:43] <abushady> i installed nvidia restricted driver but resolution can not be set more than 640x480
[13:44] <besitzer> what sall i do??
[13:44] <besitzer> shall**
[13:44] <besitzer> or shoould
[13:44] <sysstemlord> should
[13:44] <purskalas> what do you mean "cant?"
[13:44] <besitzer> can not+
[13:44] <sysstemlord> cannot
[13:45] <sysstemlord> can't
[13:45] <llutz> !de | besitzer
[13:45] <Xbehave> sysstemlord: im not sure i guess  that there is some obscure setting and its set to use dhcp instead of static adresses when looking up adresses of windows boxes
[13:45] <besitzer>  i can not install aprogramm succesfully
[13:45] <sysstemlord> you mean it's a worldwide problem?
[13:46] <Xbehave> abushady: try the nvidia-settings tool
[13:46] <shane_> also does gtkpod work well with all aspects of workin with ipod
[13:46] <besitzer> no it is only my problem
[13:46] <Xbehave> shane_: depends what generation, amarok worths well with most
[13:46] <Xbehave> but if youve got a modern one they encrypted the firmware
[13:46] <BluesKaj> abushady, look in system settings/monitor&display/hardware in admin mode , configure monitor , look for your monitor in the list and if there choose it and click apply ...you may have to relogin to reset the resolution
[13:47] <shane_> nano but i was told i needed more for photos ama only works music files?
[13:47] <besitzer> ihr hurenkinder
[13:47] <sysstemlord> besitzer, how are you trying to install programs?
[13:47] <besitzer> gibt keine antwort
[13:48] <llutz> besitzer: geh einfach weg
[13:48] <shane_> Xbehave:  so what do u recomend
[13:48] <Xbehave> o right i didnt realise ipods were more than mp3 players not sure in that case
[13:48] <besitzer> kann mir nieMAND HELFEN
[13:48] <Xbehave> check the gtkpod site it should tell you what they can/cant do
[13:48] <besitzer> ICH HAB DAS VERDAMMTE NOTEBOOK VON ONE UND HÄNGE SEIT STUNDEN HIER RUM UND KANN KEINE PROGRAMME INSTALLIEREN
[13:48] <shane_> Xbehave: ok
[13:48] <shane_> TY
[13:48] <Xbehave> !de
[13:49] <besitzer> WAS KANN ICH TUNẞẞ
[13:49] <Xbehave> besitzer: how are you trying to install the programs
[13:49] <Xbehave> !apt
[13:49] <Xbehave> !dpkg
[13:49] <Xbehave> whats the guide for fixing it?
[13:50] <toens> !Synaptic
[13:51] <sysstemlord> !grandpa
[13:51] <sysstemlord> sorry, i wanted to try it
[13:51] <geek__> XD
[13:52] <Xbehave> !apt-get
[13:52] <Xbehave> somewhere is a guide on how to fix apt if its locked but i can never rember the name
[13:52] <florian_> besitzer: what does "hurenkinder" mean?
[13:52] <llutz> florian_: "suns of a bitch"
[13:52] <sysstemlord> suns?
[13:52] <llutz> !aptfix
[13:52] <llutz> sons
[13:53] <Pici> !language
[13:53] <sysstemlord> !thanks
[13:53] <BluesKaj> huren is a bitch ...hmmm
[13:53] <Xbehave> ubottu: !hey
[13:54] <sysstemlord> ubottu are you a !cyborg?
[13:54] <romunov> weird, i can't delete or save files to my harddrive
[13:54] <abushady> Blues
[13:54] <romunov> it just says "Could not delete file _____."
[13:54] <BluesKaj> yes abushady ?
[13:54] <romunov> any ideas what might be causing this?
[13:54] <Xbehave> romunov: it may be mounted read only due to a filesystem error
[13:54] <romunov> this happened over night
[13:54] <Xbehave> do you have permision to the file?
[13:55] <romunov> yes
[13:55] <abushady> BluesKaj: my monitor is CTX model EX951F no included in this list
[13:55] <Xbehave> type mount in konsole, it should tell you if your drive is mounted read only
[13:56] <romunov> /dev/hda1 on /data type vfat (rw,umask=0000)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> abushady, are you familiar with the terminal/command line ?
[13:56] <sysstemlord> abushady there is no big difference between monitors, pick something close
[13:58] <romunov> Xbehave: i unplugged my digital camera and the system halted - i had to hard reboot
[13:58] <romunov> could this be at least part of the problem?
[13:58] <romunov> this happened yesterday
[13:59] <Xbehave> yeah its definatly the cause, um im not sure what the fix is
[13:59] <Xbehave> !fat
[13:59] <llutz> romunov:  fsck that partition
[14:00] <Coder2> Hello again. I've tried to switch to KDE4. Keyboard layout switching works there. But the new Vista-like interface is awful in my opinion. Ok, don't care about interface yet, but where are programs, which I use here in KDE3.5: kopete, kdeTV. Especially KDETV! How to use TV-tuner in KDE4 ? Any ideas?
[14:01] <geek__> Coder2: you can run KDE3 apps in kde4 with the right libraries. they just arn't autoinstalled
[14:02] <romunov> llutz: "free cluster summary wrong" - it asks me to correct this
[14:02] <Coder2> geek__: Sorry for my stupidity, but how to launch those programs ?
[14:02] <romunov> can data be lost? i can't afford to lose certain files...
[14:02] <geek__> Coder2: probably arn't installed tight now
[14:02] <llutz> romunov: always make sure to have a backup
[14:02] <geek__> try using apt to search for it, and installing it
[14:02] <Xbehave> kopete kmail etc are due in 4.1 kdetv may be coverd by the media player otherwise it depnds on the kdetv maintainer
[14:03] <Coder2> geek__: please explain. They are still there whem I've logged into KDE3.5 again.
[14:03] <geek__> thats odd
[14:04] <geek__> when i used kde 4 i had both KDE3 and 4 apps turn up
[14:04] <romunov> llutz: thanks a bunch, file deleting now works, so does saving files!
[14:04] <Coder2> geek__: Sure, very odd. KDE4 app menu is almost empty
[14:04] <geek__> Coder2: you could try starting it from command line >_>
[14:04] <romunov> or use katapult :P
[14:05] <Coder2> But here in KDE3 app menu has grown with KDE4 apps.
[14:05] <_eMaX_> anyone uses kde4 here? I have problems getting pdf thumbnails to work in konqueror
[14:05] <Coder2> Is there any way to restore traditional menu look in KDE4?
[14:06] <Xbehave> asin kicker or asin in each program?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> _eMaX_, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:08] <Coder2> Xbehave: which mediaplayer have your mentioned? Can it do TV channel setup?
[14:09] <Xbehave> i don't know i know in kde3 kaffeine would do tv channels so maybe kde4s media player does too ?
[14:12] <Coder2> Xbehave: I don't know. I've tried tv-time - works, but too poor; MythTV - installed, but unusable GUI, I was not able to manage channels there, zapTV - crashed at start and KDETV - works fine, but not able to record. Thanks, I'll take a look at kaffeine.
[14:13] <Coder2> BTW, where is a right place to ask questions about TV-tuners and kubuntu?
[14:14] <Coder2> Mine produces too low audio-level under kubuntu. And it is loud under WinXP. I mean ComPro T300
[14:14] <shaneireland> can anyone help me with a HAL problem
[14:14] <Xbehave> erm depends how technical, you can give it a shot but as were not very active perhaps #ubuntu or #mythtv will be better
[14:15] <Coder2> mythTV is not what I want :(
[14:15] <Xbehave> no but theyll no about tv-tunners
[14:16] <Xbehave> !ask
[14:16] <Coder2> My main question is what program to use? I want convenient watching and recording.
[14:16] <Xbehave> shaneireland: give it a shot maybe we can maybe we cant
[14:16] <shaneireland> i dont have hal in my etc/init.d folder and im having usb automount problems
[14:16] <shaneireland> im wondering if the 2 are linked
[14:16] <shaneireland> im running 7.04
[14:17] <Xbehave> Coder2: well im not sure ive used kaffine (kde3) and it was ok thiers also elisa that ive heard some buzz around
[14:18] <nox_> is there any program like aftereffects available?
[14:18] <Xbehave> Coder2: VLC can watch and record IIRC
[14:19] <Xbehave> shaneireland: wierd it could be the cause i can sent you my hal if you want
[14:19] <shaneireland> is there anyway i can reinstall it
[14:20] <shaneireland> so it should defo me there then in etc/init.d
[14:20] <Coder2> Xbehave: VLC? Have you ever tried to tune in even on a single channel? It is real pain. There is no autoscan or something similar there. It is a very goor player though.
[14:20] <shaneireland> cd init.d
[14:20] <shaneireland> ive done sudo apt-get --reinstall install hal and its still not in etc/init.d
[14:21] <shaneireland> Xbehave could u dcc it to me and ill try saving it in the right folder
[14:21] <Xbehave> you could try reinstalling hal-device-manager but thats just a ui
[14:22] <shaneireland> ok ill try that
[14:22] <Xbehave> im not registerd dont think i can send files, ill stick it on pastbin tho
[14:23] <Bozo[ec04]> Hi all, I have a problem running Ubuntu on a Dell Vostro 1000 laptop, with an ATI Radeon Xpress 1150. Everything works fine until the X server be initialized. Well I can't saw the X running yet
[14:24] <shaneireland> cool thanks xbehave it is just one file then?
[14:24] <Bozo[ec04]> anyone have another solution or I really had to initialize the LiveCD with options to use the vesa driver instead?
[14:25] <shaneireland> installex the gui but still dont have /etc/init.d a hal directory
[14:25] <Bozo[ec04]> ops... running Kubuntu. I try both, with KDE 3 and 4
[14:25] <tzd> My usb bluetooth dongle pairs with my bt headset but a second after it drops the connection again? It's almost like there is some kind of suspend or sleep mode that's activated? Any help would be great please!
[14:25] <Xbehave> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12460/
[14:26] <shaneireland> cool thanks xbehave
[14:26] <Xbehave> shaneireland:  im not sure init.d is just the startup script if hal is actually missing youve got other problems
[14:26] <shaneireland> do u know how i reinstall or install hal
[14:27] <Xbehave> !hal
[14:27] <Xbehave> hmm well that link is useless, i dunno try #ubuntu they might have somebody who knows about hal
[14:28] <Xbehave> is there a way to pipe output to your clipboard?
[14:29] <shaneireland> got that and it says it already running
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Xbehave, you could copy and paste
[14:35] <BluesKaj> shaneireland, are you at the TTY prompt/irssi ?
[14:36] <jarnos> I have problems with Krusader.
[14:37] <jarnos> ..concerning hidden files and permissions.
[14:38] <jarnos> ...in context of syncronating folders (or making a backup)
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Bozo[ec04], did you have the ati "restricted driver" option after installing the OS ?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> BBL...chores to do
[14:42] <Bozo[ec04]> I can't install the OS because it can't login LiveCD
[14:42] <Steve-cal> Is it possible to add a panel to the top of the screen (in addition to the one all ready at the bottom), sort of like Gnome?
[14:43] <Bozo[ec04]> When I boot with liveCD everything goes ok until the X server goes up.
[14:43] <jarnos> Can anyone say how do you exclude directory ~/.wine from comparison in Krusader::Synchronize Directories?
[14:44] <Bozo[ec04]> at this time the screen start blink with some weird pixels on bottom of screen
[14:44] <Bozo[ec04]> looks like KDM loops between start and chashes
[14:45] <Bozo[ec04]> I think this occurs due errors with my graphics card (an Ati Xpress Radeon 1150 onboard)
[14:46] <Bozo[ec04]> After many times trying to use the terminal (with Ctrl + Alt + F1) and changing the xorg.conf Driver to vesa it works.
[14:46] <Bozo[ec04]> and this xorg.conf is really strange... It has no Driver option in Device section
[14:47] <Bozo[ec04]> and nothing else...
[14:48] <Bozo[ec04]> has some reason to xorg.conf be so clean?
[14:48] <SlimeyPete> Bozo[ec04]: Hardy's xorg.conf is a bit odd... I assume that the idea is to rely more on automatic configuration rather than the xorg.conf file
[14:48] <SlimeyPete> but I don't know for sure
[14:49] <joshual> hi folks, running ubuntu (recently upgraded to 8.04) that was preinstalled on my dell laptop i just bought... I'm a kde user though... should I install kubuntu-desktop deb, or should I install kubuntu from scratch?\
[14:53] <Bozo[ec04]> I think this is up to you. I preffer kubuntu from scratch, because i don't use any gtk app (except firefox and openoffice).
[14:53] <Xbehave> up to you joshual, both ways work, one is easier and the other leaves you with a cleaner install
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> if i connect my cable tv (usually scart) and adapt it to svideo, Can I output the signal using tvtime?
[14:58] <navetz_> I am trying to set a static IP, what is my network suppose to be?
[15:00] <lyhana8> hi, ,y computer take a long time too boot, I think it's due to the fact it looks for a 'Resume Image' before doing normal boot. How can i drop this step ?
[15:04] <joshual> Pici: what was that pure kde url again?
[15:04] <Pici> !purekde
[15:04] <Pici> joshual: ^
[15:08] <joshual> thx Pici
[15:09] <Pici> np
[15:09] <c1|freaky> hi all. how do i install the nvidia drivers in kubuntu 8.04?
[15:10] <Bozo[ec04]> man
[15:11] <nox_> install nvidia driver by typing the following
[15:11] <Bozo[ec04]> you first need to blacklist the restricted modules driver
[15:12] <nox_> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[15:12] <c1|freaky> ok doing that now
[15:13] <nox_> you may need additional packages
[15:13] <c1|freaky> nox_:  it's done. what nowß
[15:13] <Jucato> c1|freaky: K Menu -> System -> Hardware Drivers Manager?
[15:13] <nox_> yes
[15:13] <nox_> thats the more simple way
[15:14] <c1|freaky> Jucato: oh yea, thatnks :D
[15:14] <nox_> normally you just need to click "use restricted driver"
[15:14] <nox_> additional you shoul dinstall  nvidia-settings
[15:14] <Chrysalis> shouldnt need to download it either, its preinstalled i think
[15:15] <c1|freaky> im restarting that system atm
[15:15] <c1|freaky> how do i see if the driver is working?
[15:15] <nox_> if enabled there is a splashscreen at x startup
[15:15] <nox_> dont know it its enabled by default
[15:15] <Chrysalis> its not
[15:15] <nox_> ok :D
[15:17] <nox_> you can try if the driver has been loaded an is working properly by checking
[15:17] <nox_> glxgears
[15:17] <Chrysalis> just needs enabling and possibly downloading the settings if you want them
[15:18] <c1|freaky> ok restarting
[15:18] <c1|freaky> ive enabled the desktop effects
[15:18] <Jucato> nox_: not really. glxgears can still work smoothly even with software rendering (Mesa)
[15:18] <tom_> hello,i have one little question. I have currently a crappy mouse. And i want to buy a laser mouse. but does a laser mouse works on every pc ?
[15:19] <c1|freaky> there is an nvidia splashcreen
[15:19] <nox_> ok thats true
[15:19] <tom_> i have a old 900 MHZ pc
[15:19] <_CrashMaster_> mostly dependant on the interface, but for that most part a mouse is a mouse is a mouse
[15:19] <c1|freaky> splash screen :D thank you very much :D
[15:19] <Jucato> glxinfo | grep render
[15:19] <nox_> but you wont have high FPS rates
[15:19] <Jucato> that will give you more definite info
[15:19] <tom_> owkee thank you_Chrashmaster_
[15:20] <thnee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/156041  i am experiencing this bug after installing package 'lyx'. any ideas?
[15:23] <c1|freaky> how do i change the keyboard layout?
[15:25] <Chrysalis> system settings/regional&language/keyboard layout
[15:25] <c1|freaky> nm got it :C
[15:25] <c1|freaky> :D
[15:25] <c1|freaky> thanks
[15:26] <c1|freaky> and how do i get more desktop effects?
[15:26] <Chrysalis> i think you can do it from your xorg.conf too which i wonder if its the better way to go
[15:30] <joshual> just installed kubuntu-desktop on an ubuntu install... then removed gnome... cant get sound kmix nothing available in current mixer
[15:30] <fildo_> goodnight
[15:32] <lyhana8> hi, ,y computer take a long time too boot, I think it's due to the fact it looks for a 'Resume Image' before doing normal boot. How can i drop this step ?
[15:35] <joshual> Pici: still about?
[15:36] <thnee> how can enable some sort of key combination to switch dekstops?
[15:36] <abushady> how i can play real media on kubuntu any one can help please
[15:36] <thnee> abushady: realplayer?
[15:37] <nox_> abushady
[15:37] <nox_> you can
[15:37] <abushady> i can install realplayer
[15:37] <abushady> how
[15:37] <nox_> there should be a version of realplayer in the sources
[15:37] <thnee> abushady: run the installer and follow the steos
[15:37] <thnee> steps*
[15:37] <Pici> joshual: kinda, whats up?
[15:38] <abushady> thanks i will try
[15:38] <prower> Hello :> In KDE4 with desktop effects enabled, whenever i exit a fullscreen opengl application or game, there is display corruption to the desktop (parts of it remain black) :< Does anyone know how I might be able to fix this?
[15:38] <joshual> Pici: dont have any sound (kubuntu-desktop) and kmix is empty under current mixer
[15:39] <Pici> joshual: I'm actually not so good with sound issues, and I don't even use KDE ;)
[15:39] <joshual> oh Pici what do you use?
[15:39] <Pici> Gnome
[15:39] <nox_> abushady look for realplay in the packages
[15:40] <joshual> Pici: with ubuntu?
[15:40] <Pici> joshual: Yep.
[15:40] <joshual> hmm ok
[15:43] <nox_> I've some problems with the accuracy of my mouse after using a 16:10 tft. Any ideas?
[15:45] <thnee> how do i change the number of virtual desktops with desktop effects enabled?
[15:45] <Jucato> thnee: Compiz or KWin (KDE 4)?
[15:46] <thnee> Jucato: compiz
[15:46] <thnee> and kde 4
[15:46] <Jucato> um.. #compiz-fusion
[15:46] <Jucato> compiz uses a different system for virtual desktops that sometimes conflicts w/ KDE's
[15:46] <thnee> Jucato: i can not find the settings manager for compiz anywhere
[15:47]  * Jucato doesn't use it.. sorry
[15:47] <thnee> i just think everything was moving so slow in kde4
[15:47] <thnee> like it wasnt hardware accelerated
[15:48] <thnee> Jucato: is this normal or can i enable something?
[15:48] <Jucato> um.... not normal. you'll have to ask in #kubuntu-kde4 though
[15:49] <thnee> ah
[15:49] <Xbehave> thnee: to change the number of virtual desktops in compiz you need to install ccsm and go to general options
[16:08] <surgy> Im having a sounds problem, everything looks right, alsa is loaded and running, and my video car(AC97) works fine. I get sound output when using vlc, but nothing else has sound at all..... can someone help please?
[16:09] <vittorio> ciao
[16:10] <surgy> ok now none of my sound is working at all.......
[16:15] <abushady> HOW I CAN PLAY REAL MEDIA ON KUBUNTU
[16:15] <JoshOvki> !caps
[16:16] <abushady> ubottu: this is not intended
[16:16] <JoshOvki> abushady: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/StreamingVideo
[16:21] <surgy> Im having a sounds problem, everything looks right, alsa is loaded and running, and my video car(AC97) works fine. I get sound output when using vlc, but nothing else has sound at all..... can someone help please?
[16:21] <JoshOvki> abushady: if you read the details in that link you should be able to get it working
[16:21] <crackhead_25_> hi all, how do i restart the xine engine for playing audio and video? i get the error that audio is being used when i try to run amarok.. i was running amarok a little bit ago. i shut it down. i dont know if it's still running in the background somewhere or something??
[16:21] <Keaton> Greetz, #kubuntu, I have a mounting issue with my Sony MP3 player.
[16:22] <JoshOvki> surgy: KDE3 or 4? (i have a small idea)
[16:22] <surgy> 3
[16:23] <Keaton> It used to mount automatically when I plugged it in, but after I dist-upgraded to Hardy it stopped working. Still works for my SD card reader and my USB stick, but my mp3 player isn't recognised.
[16:24] <JoshOvki> surgy: ok, if you go into kcontrol and look in the sound section, do you get multiple devices shown?
[16:24] <surgy> it has a drop down with two devices
[16:24] <krati> hello everybody
[16:24] <krati> ia m in deep problem
[16:24] <abushady> how i can install realplayer on kubuntu 8.04
[16:24] <surgy> !totem | abushady
[16:25] <krati> my keyboard has stopped working in one of the user accounts
[16:25] <krati> i was just chatting iand it froze
[16:25] <krati> i cant type a thing
[16:25] <JoshOvki> surgy: ok, is the correct one selected?
[16:25] <krati> and main thing is that virtual keyboard is also not working
[16:25] <surgy> yes
[16:26] <krati> but keyboard is working on Log In screen and this user account
[16:26] <JoshOvki> surgy: hmmm, i should boot up my desktop to see what the settings look like there
[16:26] <krati> plz help!
[16:26] <surgy> JoshOvki: "VIA 8237"
[16:26] <surgy> JoshOvki: you use the same sound card?
[16:26] <krati> anybody
[16:26] <surgy> !keyboard
[16:26] <Pici> krati: you seem to be typing now
[16:27] <_CrashMaster_> How do I use wine to install a windows app?
[16:27] <krati> Pici: thats the catch
[16:27] <JoshOvki> surgy: no im using a sound blaster something or anouter
[16:27] <krati> Pici: i am using a different user account now
[16:27] <krati> but in my own user account its now working
[16:27] <krati> i rebooted several times but no help
[16:27] <surgy> JoshOvki: i have been using kubuntu for almost two years now, and i have never even given sound a second though, becuase in all other releases it worked perfectly
[16:28] <surgy> !wine _CrashMaster_
[16:28] <_CrashMaster_> surgy: nm I got it
[16:28] <_CrashMaster_> thanks tho
[16:28] <JoshOvki> surgy: lots of people are having issues with sound and hardy
[16:28] <surgy> _CrashMaster_: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine
[16:28] <krati> !keyboard krati
[16:28] <krati> !keyboard | krati
[16:28] <surgy> _CrashMaster_: after it installs just type wine apllicationName
[16:29] <crackhead_25_> hi how do i find out what device is using the sound, that it is "unavailable"???????
[16:29] <surgy> crackhead_25_: lspci -v
[16:30] <crackhead_25_> surgy: http://pastebin.ca/1020160
[16:30] <JoshOvki> surgy: take a read of this  http://kubasik.net/blog/2008/03/31/sound-problems-in-ubuntu-hardy/
[16:33] <crackhead_25_> surgy: you see that?
[16:33] <krati> help1
[16:33] <krati> HELP
[16:34] <Xbehave> krati: whats your problem?
[16:34] <krati> Xbehave: my keyboard isnt working in one of user accounts
[16:34] <ricco79_> hello all
[16:35] <krati> Xbehave: and that Virtual keyboard isnt too
[16:35] <surgy> _CrashMaster_: run that as sudo
[16:35] <_CrashMaster_> surgy: Whats going on now?
[16:35] <krati> Xbehave: so sir?
[16:35] <krati> Xbehave: can u help
[16:36] <Xbehave> so neither your real or virtual keyboard work but only on 1 account? do they work in a VTT?
[16:36] <Xbehave> im not sure i may be able to help but not 100%
[16:36] <Xbehave> they work for other users fine tho
[16:36] <krati> ya
[16:37] <Xbehave> as that user does it work in a console, eg ctl+alt+f1
[16:37] <joshual> trying to write an ubuntu iso to dvd, getting error that it wont fit, i'm using 4.7g dvds (its a dell remastered dvd) is it possible the dvd image was made for a larger dvd?
[16:37] <surgy> _CrashMaster_: be more specific
[16:38] <krati> ok
[16:38] <krati> then>
[16:38] <amerigo> ! games
[16:39] <amerigo> ! games chat
[16:39] <surgy> amerigo: try #linuxgames
[16:39] <amerigo> surgy: thanks buddy
[16:40] <crackhead_25_> surgy: did you see my pastebin?
[16:41] <surgy> crackhead_25_: meet me in #myroom
[16:41] <crackhead_25_> surgy: it says i need to be invited
[16:42] <xjohnthomasx> surgy: i have to be invited
[16:42] <amerigo> where i can download silet hill for kubuntu?
[16:42] <surgy> nvm
[16:42] <surgy> i saw you first paste with access denied
[16:42] <amerigo> "silent hill" sorry
[16:42] <surgy> becuase you were running a program without sudo
[16:42] <xjohnthomasx> ohhhh
[16:42] <xjohnthomasx> ok. one sec. you didnt say sudo.
[16:42] <surgy> try it with sudo and repaste and then ill tell you that i dont know what your problem is.
[16:43] <xjohnthomasx> surgy: http://pastebin.ca/1020174
[16:43] <Pici> amerigo: You might be able to get it running under Wine
[16:44] <surgy> xjohnthomasx: "i dont know what your problem is"
[16:44] <xjohnthomasx> surgy: i launch amarok and try to play something, and it says audio device unavailable/busy?? i dont know why, or how to fix it
[16:44] <amerigo> Pici: but i know that Wine is for Film or Avi .... isn't it?
[16:45] <Pici> amerigo: Explain what you are trying to do again.
[16:45] <xjohnthomasx> amerigo: wine is a windows emulator. it's a base upon which other programs run.
[16:45] <amerigo> Pici: sorry but I'm newbye of linux system
[16:45] <Jucato> xjohnthomasx: "is not".. hence the name "wine" :)
[16:45] <surgy> xjohnthomasx: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset
[16:45] <amerigo> Pici: I'm looking for a games that runs under linux
[16:46] <_CrashMaster_> <--- Just got StarCraft working in Wine. This ought to make for a fun trip down memory lane.
[16:46] <amerigo> Its name is SILENT HILL
[16:46] <Pici> amerigo: Wine will allow you to play Windows games under linux.
[16:46] <Pici> !wine | amerigo
[16:46] <Jucato> *some* games
[16:46] <surgy> amerigo look up Savage: Battle for Newerth in google
[16:46] <Pici> !appdb | amerigo
[16:46] <surgy> amerigo if you want to play games in linux try cedega
[16:46] <Pici> Jucato: I thought I typed 'some'
[16:46] <Pici> Cedega is commerical software.
[16:46] <Jucato> Pici: oh :)
[16:46] <amerigo> OK OK is clear...
[16:47] <Pici> Jucato: I guess my fingers didn't listen to my brain.
[16:47] <Jucato> hehe :)
[16:47] <_CrashMaster_> Anyone up for some starcraft?
[16:47] <surgy> Pici: whats wrong with commercial software?
[16:47] <surgy> yeah
[16:48] <surgy> _CrashMaster_: you have yim?
[16:48] <_CrashMaster_> !yim
[16:48] <_CrashMaster_> Probably not
[16:48] <Pici> surgy: iirc, Cedega costs money.
[16:48] <Andi_> Who could tell me where the actions thet special keybindings execute are defined? Say like if I want to change the change of audio volume done with XF86AudioLowerVolume from -10% to -5%? XF86AudioLowerVolume is not a script I can find on my system like descibed on some pages.
[16:48] <Jucato> surgy: I think he's just stating a fact
[16:48] <surgy> Pici: $5.50 a month...... and its an excelent product
[16:49] <surgy> Jucato: ok
[16:49] <Jucato> surgy: he might go expecting that Cedega is both free (costs) and free software.
[16:49] <maximummim> I have a problem with mount a partition on my linux embedded system (with ramdiskkernel), when I mount a disk scsi the file I copy into that mount directory was copied into disk and into memory... why? what I have to do?
[16:49] <bradhex> I'm having problems with Kicker on Hardy Heron. I'
[16:50] <Jucato> You?
[16:50] <bradhex> I am apparently missing kcm_kicker.la and I can't configure any of the kicker settings
[16:51] <joshual> !pure kde
[16:51] <joshual> !purekde
 Pici: $5.50 a month...... and its an excelent product <- except when you consider that wine has already surpassed it and the only benefit to cedega now is the copy protection assistance
[16:52] <joshual> hey folks can anyone tell me how to remove kubuntu kde3 completely? i just want kde4 (but have both installed)
[16:53] <surgy> Daisuke_Ido: its been a minute, when did wine get better DX support than cedega?
[16:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm reading up on some things, and apparently cedega isn't working off of an antiquated wine codebase anymore...
[16:54] <Daisuke_Ido> my mistake, i apologize.  however, i still despise it on principle.
[16:54] <_CrashMaster_> I assume that cedega is a WINE knockoff?
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> it is
[16:55] <joshual> !puregnome
[16:56] <molecule> neat. did you guys know IRC masks your password if you type it out.  ******. see
[16:56] <bigbang14> i need to create a link between /usr/local/bin and /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[16:56] <_CrashMaster_> ...
[16:56] <_CrashMaster_> molecule: Trolling? For shame!
[16:56] <molecule> ;p;
[16:56] <maximummim> bigbang :  use ln  ("man ln" for help"
[16:57] <bigbang14> maximummim: can that create permenent links?
[16:59] <molecule> _CrashMaster_: http://bash.org/?244321
[16:59] <molecule> please read
[17:00] <Pici> molecule: Please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:00] <molecule> ah ok
[17:00] <Pici> or #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:01] <maximummim> bigbang :  yes of course...
[17:02] <PolitikerNEU> amerigo: Silent Hill 4 doesn't work in Wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7189
[17:02] <xjohnthomasx> surgy: did you see my new lspci with sudo?
[17:02] <xjohnthomasx> surgy: the sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset command didnt do anything
[17:03] <surgy> thats all i can do sorry
[17:03] <joshual> !puregnome
[17:03] <xjohnthomasx> can anyone help me get my sound to work again? i try to run amarok, and it says sound unavialable device busy.. help????
[17:09] <xjohnthomasx>  can anyone help me get my sound to work again? i try to run amarok, and it says sound unavialable device busy.. help????
[17:09] <pteague> is mplayer or xine the default on kubuntu?
[17:09] <PolitikerNEU> I think it's kaffeine
[17:09] <emilsedgh> xine
[17:09] <andy_> hey everyone, im having trouble with my SB live card. im using kde 3 and what happens is when i start the pc i can log into kde and once it starts to load applications it crashes and gives me the caps and the scroll lock flashing on my keyboard
[17:10] <PolitikerNEU> xjohnthomasx: have you tried closing firefox and trying again? Accoring to a forum, this may work
[17:10] <PolitikerNEU> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/xine-audio-output-unavailable.-device-is-busy.-359726/?s=750226fd7df941de8b17d7eda7c379d5
[17:11] <xjohnthomasx> PolitikerNEU: yeah
[17:11] <xjohnthomasx> no luck
[17:12] <andy_> im thinking its the emu10k1 driver
[17:12] <xjohnthomasx> PolitikerNEU: other ideas?
[17:13] <Xbehave> im trying to compile some webcam drivers i get the error: "pusb-linux.h:5:23: error: linux/usb.h: No such file or directory" what package do i need for that?
[17:15] <_CrashMaster_> Xbehave: Im no expert, but it sounds like need to download the kernel source
[17:16] <llutz> Xbehave: install kernel-header
[17:18] <norman_x> hi there
[17:18] <Xbehave> i cant find kernel header but i have linux-2....-generic-headers installed do i need something else? 386? (im on mad64
[17:18] <Xbehave> *amd
[17:18] <llutz> Xbehave: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[17:19] <Xbehave> i already have that :( maybe the source is broken its alpha software
[17:23] <Steve-cal> In Ubuntu Gnome, if I remember right, taking a screen snapshot is as easy as pressing the "Prt Scrn" button. If I do that in KDE, nothing gets copied to the clipboard that I can see. Do I need a special app for screenshots?
[17:24] <Andi_> Where does KDE define keybindings like XF86AudioLowerVolume? Is it possible to change its definition?
[17:25] <Xbehave> Steve-cal: there is ksnapshot, you can bind a key to in many ways but i think the preferd way is to //usr/share/applications/kde/keys.desktop
[17:26] <Lenaud01> I did lspci and it says i have a broadcom BCM4310 I did sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter restarted machine and wireless still no go?? something more i need do with b43-fwcutter then just apt-get it?
[17:27] <Xbehave> Lenaud01: yes you need the firmware thats just a tool to install it, the easiest way is to use resricted drivers manager
[17:27] <xsacha> Lenaud01: fwcutter just cuts the firmware from the driver
[17:27] <xsacha> Lenaud01: kubuntu has an automatic tool for installing broadcom drivers with Restricted Drivers Manager
[17:28] <Lenaud01> what tool xsacha??
[17:28] <Xbehave> Lenaud01: /usr/share/applications/kde/restricted-manager-kde.desktop should sort it out
[17:28] <Lenaud01> put that in a console?
[17:28] <TimS> Can i install kde 4 apps under KDE3
[17:28] <xsacha> there you go
[17:29] <Xbehave> TimS: yes
[17:29] <xsacha> Lenaud01: alt+f2
[17:29] <Xbehave> Lenaud01: yeah or get to it through menus its somewhere in settings
[17:30] <Lenaud01> thanks will give that a shot
[17:30] <xsacha> settings->hardware drivers i think
[17:30] <xsacha> yeah, Hardware Drivers Manager
[17:30] <xsacha> in System
[17:31] <Steve-cal> Lenaud01: Or type command "sudo kcmshell System/restricted-manager-kde"
[17:33] <Steve-cal> Xbehave: OK, I looked through that keys.desktop file, and I'm not understanding how is that going to bind my key? Don't I have to use xmodmap or something similar? Maybe I didn't understand your comment.
[17:33] <Chrysalis> is there a way to move the navigation buttons/address bar/search bar to the main menu too bar and basically save me from an extra toolbar like i can do in firefox?
[17:34] <xsacha> Steve-cal: over here, by default, print screen takes a screenshot and opens KSnapshot
[17:35] <Steve-cal> xsacha: Hmmm, nothing happens when I hit "prt Scrn". Any idea of why I may not have that functionality?
[17:36] <xsacha> no idea
[17:36] <xsacha> try running ksnapshot from a konsole
[17:36] <xsacha> maybe the program is broken
[17:36] <llutz> Steve-cal: open xev and press PrtScrn to look if it gives the right symbol back
[17:37] <Steve-cal> Xbehave, xsacha: Maybe I need to make it so pushing my print screen button launches ksnapshot? Any idea how to set this up? BTW, I can run ksnapshot fine from the console.
[17:37] <Xbehave> Steve-cal: under miscellaneous i have window screenshot and desktop screenshot, but no normal screenshot
[17:37] <Steve-cal> llutz: Yes, xev sees my print screen key just fine.
[17:38] <joshual> hey folks unable to remove kio-umountwrapper getting error: E: kio-umountwrapper: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[17:38] <xsacha> Steve-cal: what number is the key (hex number)
[17:38] <joshual> help?
[17:38] <andy_> so i read a few articles on a forum and it says to add noapic to my boot loader, but it still crashes with the sound card
[17:38] <Steve-cal> xsacha:  keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print)
[17:38] <Xbehave> Steve-cal: you could bind ksnapshot to printscreen by either of those or under aplication shortcuts > graphics, but this has left me confused as to how mine works
[17:39] <Xbehave> *command shortcuts
[17:40] <sigma_1234> i wish someone would make kde4.1 packages for kubuntu . its so unfair that opensuse has them and we dont
[17:40] <Xbehave> Steve-cal: are you using compiz ?
[17:41] <Steve-cal> Xbehave: No, my monitor is too old to support it. :)
[17:41] <Chrysalis> i am personally sticking with 3.5 for as long as i can
[17:41] <joshual> nm got it
[17:41] <xsacha> Steve-cal: keycode 111 (keysym 0xff61, Print)
[17:42] <sigma_1234> i thought it would be really bad but 4.0.3 is surprisingly stable
[17:42] <sigma_1234> only plasma has a few issues
[17:42] <andy_> the funny thing about 4.0.4 is that i get sound with the sb live but not on 3.5
[17:43] <xsacha> whoops i got disconnected?
[17:43] <sigma_1234> well thats because kde4 has phonon
[17:43] <andy_> whats that
[17:43] <genii> Gah, plasma
[17:44] <genii> That netsplit was fairly painless :)
[17:45] <andy_> lol
[17:45] <Xbehave> Steve-cal: yeah in that case simply binding printscrn to ksnapshot through command shortcuts or kmenu editor should work
[17:46] <Steve-cal> Xbehave: OK, using command shortcuts under "keyboard shortcuts" in the System Manager fixed the problem. Thanks for the help. :)
[17:46] <Xbehave> np
[17:46] <Steve-cal> xsacha: Under your command shortcuts, does it show that kscreenshot is linked to the print screen key?
[17:47] <xsacha> commands where?
[17:49] <xsacha> Steve-cal: where is this?
[17:49] <Steve-cal> xsacha: In your KDE System Settings program, under "keyboard shortcuts", click the tab for "command shortcuts" and see if ksnapshot is set to run with the print key.
[17:50] <xsacha> oh found it
[17:50] <xsacha> it's in KDED shortcuts
[17:50] <xsacha> Print > Print
[17:50] <xsacha> kwin has two print-screen related shortcuts too
[17:50] <xsacha> ctrl+print and alt+print
[17:50] <xsacha> Steve-cal: are you using kwin... or maybe compiz-fusion?
[17:52] <Steve-cal> xsacha: No compiz-fusion, and I have no idea if I'm using kwin... how would I check?
[17:52] <xsacha> kwin is default WM for kde
[17:52] <sigma_1234> Ridell: whats the easiest way to install kde4.1 alpha on kubuntu?
[17:52] <Steve-cal> xsacha: Then I assume I'm using it. :)
[17:52] <xsacha> sigma_1234: install kubuntu 8.04
[17:53] <xsacha> Steve-cal: yeah, dunno what the problem is
[17:53] <advanced> !WINE
[17:53] <advanced> !AppDB
[17:53] <Steve-cal> xsacha: And what is "KDED shortcuts"? You lost me on that.
[17:53] <advanced> I want know how to uninstalll WINE .. but full with configuration
[17:53] <advanced> any ideas ?
[17:54] <sigma_1234> xsacha: theres only 4.0.4 packages. not 4.1 alpha ones
[17:54] <xsacha> Steve-cal: oh im using KDE4.. i think it shows shortcuts differently.. it shows shortcuts by programs
[17:54] <advanced> Because i must reinstalling wine...sudo apt-get remove wine its not for me
[17:54] <xsacha> sigma_1234: 4.0.4 came out after the 4.1 alpha, im pretty sure
[17:54] <advanced> and i want how to uninstall cedega
[17:54] <xsacha> sigma_1234: there is a 4.0.x at the end of every month 'x'
[17:54] <xsacha> sigma_1234: so at the end of this month, there will be a 4.0.5
[17:55] <seb__> fr
[17:55] <sigma_1234> yeah but i want to install kde4.1 alpha . opensuse has packages but not kubuntu
[17:55] <Steve-cal> advanced: If nobody here steps in to help you, you might try #winehq
[17:55] <xsacha> sigma_1234: i dont think you understand.. 4.0.4 > 4.1 alpha.. 4.04 came out after
[17:56] <xsacha> sigma_1234: 4.1 alpha had an unstable API because a lot of stuff was rewritten, it was actually skipped in kubuntu... 4.0.4 then came out
[17:56] <sigma_1234> but doesnt 4.1 alpha have new features that 4.0.4 doesnt?
[17:57] <xsacha> sigma_1234: considering 4.1 alpha came out BEFORE 4.04, no
[17:57] <xsacha> 4.1 has a broken plasma which was later fixed in 4.0.4, but thats about it
[17:57] <xsacha> alpha
[17:57] <sigma_1234> i see
[17:58] <xsacha> about 2 weeks until 4.0.5 is released
[17:58] <sigma_1234> is there a major difference between 4.0.3 and 4.0.4?
[17:59] <xsacha> yeah
[17:59] <weswh-> could anyone recommend a good utility for testing out new hardware? i just built a machine...running fine, but would like to run some extensive memory/cpu tests etc. make sure it's stable under high loads and such
[17:59] <fildo> !mpg
[17:59] <Steve-cal> xsacha: Escuse me for interjecting, but why is a subsequent release numbered less than the previous one? (4.0.4 < 4.1)? Just curious.
[17:59] <xsacha> sigma_1234: 4.0.4 is build requiring Qt4.4.. and is noticably fasteer
[17:59] <xsacha> Steve-cal: 4.1 ALPHA :P
[17:59] <xsacha> Steve-cal: it's actually not 4.1 at all
[18:00] <xsacha> sigma_1234: Steve-cal: 4.0.x are monthly builds at the end of each month, 'x'. alphas and betas are scheduled releases depending to this Release Schedule: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
[18:01] <sigma_1234> are you sure 4.0.4 is running qt4.4?
[18:01] <xsacha> alpha 1 was released on april 22, for example. 4.0.4 was released at the end of april (30th or so)
[18:01] <xsacha> sigma_1234: 4.0.4 required Qt4.4... it isnt possible to compile it without Qt4.4
[18:01] <Steve-cal> weswh: A really good RAM memory tester is memtest86.
[18:01] <xsacha> sigma_1234: plasma and a lot of other kde stuff moved to Qt4.4-only around kde4.1 alpha time which is why a lot of stuff was broken then and then fixed in 4.0.4
[18:02] <xsacha> APIs rewritten and so on
[18:02]  * sigma_1234 how big is the download to update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4?
[18:02] <xsacha> actually KDE 4.1 Beta 1 is tagged in 3 days by the way
[18:03] <xsacha> sigma_1234: unless you have a package manager like conary that updates files individually instead of packages, you'll probably need to install whole packages (over 300 megs?)
[18:03] <Xbehave> 3 whole days!!!!!!!11e^i pi()
[18:04] <sigma_1234> will there be beta 1 packages available?
[18:04] <drenz> join #ubuntu
[18:04] <drenz> srry
[18:05] <shaffy> can someone tell me a compression program similar in capability to WinRar for Kubuntu?  i find Ark to be horrible.
[18:05] <xsacha> sigma_1234: they will probabyl wait for 4.0.5
[18:05] <xsacha> shaffy: you can run winrar in linux
[18:06] <sigma_1234> i thought that the kde 4.1 alpha and beta releases were seperate from the kde 4.0.x releases
[18:06] <shaffy> xsacha: you mean via wine?
[18:06] <xsacha> sigma_1234: thats correct, they go by different timelines.. 4.0.x is like a monthly build
[18:06] <xsacha> shaffy: no
[18:06] <xsacha> shaffy: i mean go to their website http://rarlabs.com/download.htm download the RAR for linux version
[18:07] <Pici> !rar
[18:07] <xsacha> shaffy: you could also use that.. unrar-free
[18:07] <shaffy> xsacha: i believe both are command line interfaces only, correct?
[18:07] <xsacha> yes
[18:07] <sigma_1234> but its the same codebase being added to all the time right?
[18:08] <xsacha> shaffy: winrar works in wine with a GUI if thats what you want
[18:09] <shaffy> xsacha: do you know of a kubuntu alternative? (with a GUI that is)
[18:09] <sigma_1234> xsacha: are you running 4.0.4?
[18:09] <xsacha> sigma_1234: yeah
[18:09] <xsacha> shaffy: kubuntu will run all programs that other linux distros run
[18:10] <xsacha> shaffy: whats wrong with running winrar through wine?
[18:10] <advanced> !emerald
[18:10] <advanced> !emerald-theme
[18:10] <sigma_1234> xsacha: does your dolphin hav tabbed browsing?
[18:10] <shaffy> xsacha: i guess i just want to get away from windows programs... they make me feel disloyal. lol
[18:10] <xsacha> sigma_1234: that was added after 4.0.4
[18:11] <xsacha> sigma_1234: about 10 days ago i think
[18:11] <xsacha> shaffy: there are linux ones with a gui, but they really suck (eg. linuxrar)
[18:11] <sigma_1234> xsacha: so it will be in 4.0.5 right?
[18:11] <xsacha> sigma_1234: yes