[05:32] <superfly> MaNI: I haven't been able to get much proper use out of it.  :D
[19:09] <nsnzero> hi smile
[19:09] <smile> nsnzero: hi :)
[19:10] <smile> I finished porting Translate Now to web-ext.. do I dare to publish it to https://addons.mozilla.org ? :)
[19:10] <nsnzero> have you tested it ? if yes then why not
[19:15] <smile> yes, sure, I've tested it many times
[19:15] <smile> I'm not sure, it might break like it always does :D
[19:16] <smile> Two days ago I was also "finished" but then I found a annoying bug
[19:16] <smile> which I managed to reproduce only today
[19:16] <smile> so I now have a solution
[19:16] <smile>  / workaround
[19:17] <nsnzero> dont be hard on yourself - no software is 100% bug free
[19:17] <smile> I have around 6000 users! :o
[19:17] <smile> for Translate Now alone :)
[19:18] <nsnzero> why dont you release it as a beta - for them to test
[19:19] <smile> I can't :p Then I'll need a separate channel on which users need to join explicitly, and I can't upgrade them to release builds unless I release every build twice
[19:19] <smile> once on release channel and once on beta channel
[19:21] <nsnzero> i see your problem - i am not familiar with Mozilla Addons Policies
[19:22] <smile> yaay, fixed a packaging bug and a default preference set wrong
[19:23] <smile> now I feel pretty confident :)
[19:25] <nsnzero> 2 two thumbs up from me
[19:26] <nsnzero> mozilla has an irc channel for devs #extdev
[19:26] <smile> I tried to mimic the old preferences user interface, closely integrating with the Mozilla Firefox branding, I hope its good enough
[19:26] <smile> hmm, another packaging bug, it includes images I don't need :p
[19:26] <smile> but they need to be in the repo for documentation purposes :p
[19:28] <smile> nsnzero: no #extdev on freenode :)
[19:29] <nsnzero> got it from here https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons
[19:36] <nsnzero> all the best smile - hopefully i will see your addon in the firefox repo soon
[19:36] <magespawn> good evening
[19:36] <smile> nsnzero: yeah! :D
[20:46] <magespawn> good night
[23:39] <superfly> hi chesedo


[11:40] <cmaloney> morning
[12:27] <shakes808> Happy Friday all
[12:30] <cmaloney> hf2u
[12:36] <mrgoodcat> morn
[12:36] <Zimdale> morn
[12:36] <rick_h_> morning
[12:36]  * rick_h_ is breathing a sigh of relief after he locked himself  out of the camper
[12:37] <rick_h_> and had to send the boy in through a storage bay to break into it
[12:41] <cmaloney> rick_h_: I remember those days
[12:42] <rick_h_> lol
[12:52] <shakes808> Does anyone know how to get around TFS to move a folder?   Folder structure is a -> b -> c;  trying to move c into a but it says that "Move - c  The target server path already exists in source control.  Please enter another path."
[12:52] <shakes808> sorry, "Move - a  The target..."
[12:57] <rick_h_> no idea, never had to suffer TFS
[12:59] <shakes808> :|
[12:59] <shakes808> right
[13:00] <shakes808> I can get the .sln file to move, just not the folder :(
[13:00] <shakes808> might just have to recreate it
[13:00] <shakes808> Thank you
[13:10] <cmaloney> Ugh
[22:44] <cmaloney> evening
[23:16] <_stink_> yo


[17:35] <flotishtu> !smb4k | hariseldon99
[17:36] <flotishtu> ic
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> for just quick transfers. ssh + winscp on windows - is rather easy to get going.
[17:36] <flotishtu> where ?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> ive had issues with samba  lately.
[17:36] <hariseldon99> search for samba on kcontrol
[17:36] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis what are you talking about
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> flotishtu,  which part.
[17:37] <hariseldon99> flotishtu: kcontrol->Internet and networking
[17:37] <hariseldon99> its there
[17:37] <flotishtu> k
[17:37] <drurew> Dr_Willis: is there a sort of "bind" system that will work without me having to open ports on my router?
[17:37] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis  ssh + winscp on windows
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> flotishtu,  install ssh on linux, install winscp on windows.. you can transfer files  to/from the linux box - easially. without having to fight with samba.
[17:38] <hariseldon99> bah
[17:38] <hariseldon99> ssh is too slow unless you wanna do it over wan
[17:38] <hariseldon99> then security takes precedence over speed I guess
[17:39] <llutz> it's ok to "share a few files"
[17:39] <flotishtu> hariseldon99 i fount that in kcontrol. but what do i need to do?
[17:39] <flotishtu> to share a file or folder
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> if speed is the issue.. nfs is faster then samba i gather.. but ive never tracked down the nfs thing for windows yet.
[17:39] <hariseldon99> flotishtu: fiddle with it until it works :)
[17:39] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis ok. winscp is free?
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> flotishtu,  yes.
[17:39] <hariseldon99> flotishtu: yeah it's free
[17:40] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis and what extend of control will the windows client have on my machine?
[17:40] <hariseldon99> none really
[17:40] <flotishtu> will winscp and ssh will able to del files on my pc
[17:41] <mkultras> flotishtu: sure u can delete files with winscp
[17:45] <flotishtu> mkultras i want read only acces for clients
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> flotishtu,  its ssh.. you could use a terminal and do whatever you want.
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> You can do whatever you have permissions to do.
[17:51] <flotishtu> hm
[17:51] <flotishtu> so winscp will be command line for window users.? i want gui
[17:51] <flotishtu> gui file sharing
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Go google for winscp.
[17:52] <flotishtu> k
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> it IS a gui. and it uses putty which is a command line
[17:52] <flotishtu> ic
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> which is a ssh client.
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:52] <flotishtu> hm
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> ssh is a 'defacto' must learn all about tool. :)
[17:52] <drurew> is there some form of application to broadcast ports , driectly bypassing router firewalls / port configurations ...from the inside
[17:52] <flotishtu> the users wil not have to type commands to have a file shared?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> Its just sooooooooooooooooooooo handy. :)
[17:52] <llutz> http://winscp.net
[17:52] <flotishtu> ok
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> go get the program. :)  just go get it.. it will soon become a Must have for every windows pc ya got.
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> you dont 'share' files with ssh/scp/winscp. You access the remote machine and copy/delete/whatever.
[17:53] <flotishtu> k
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> 'shares' are samba/network neighborhood shares.
[17:53] <llutz> drurew: find out how skype works, maybe that mechanism is helpfull for you
[17:54] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis i think i have to control and give acces rights while seting ssh
[17:54] <frank23> drurew: if the application and the router supports upnp, I think the ports are forwarded automatically
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> you ssh in as a user. so whatever permissios the user has winscp will have.
[17:55] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis ic.
[17:56] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis iam alwasy logged in as user1. so i have to give the same user and password to windows clients to acces the files?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> with ssh/scp it dose4nt matter.. you use winscp and tell winscp what user to login to the linxu box as.
[17:56] <flotishtu> oh ic
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> for samba shares. I always give the windows/linux users the same name/password
[17:56] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis well. i have to make a user first.. right?
[17:56] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis in linux box
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> If you installed Ubuntu/Kubuntyu - you got a user.  your initial user.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> make more if you want more.
[17:57] <flotishtu> Dr_Willis ill make one more . that has only read only rights
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> read only rights to where? winscp  will use whatever permissions the user has..  You normally set permissions on the files/dirs.   Good Luck - have fun.
[17:58] <flotishtu> ya
[17:59] <huie> Ok time to make the sound work
[17:59] <huie> !sound
[18:05] <castel_> hai all
[18:05] <castel_> i have install ubuntu now
[18:06] <castel_> cause i have received disc today
[18:06] <castel_> thank ubuntu
[18:07] <castel_> how to chat at dalnet ???
[18:07] <castel_> anyone can tell me ?
[18:07] <castel_> please
[18:07] <Pici> castel_: /server irc.dalnet.net
[18:09] <castel_> thanks pici
[18:09] <castel_> but the port ?
[18:10] <castel_> Connection to Server irc.dalnet.net lost: name lookup has failed. Trying to reconnect.
[18:10] <Pici> castel_: maybe its irc.dal.net
[18:11] <castel_> yup
[18:11] <castel_> but i can't know the port dalnet
[18:11] <castel_> anyone tell me ???
[18:11] <Pici> castel_: 6667
[18:12] <castel_> still error
[18:12] <jonathan__> good day :)
[18:13] <jonathan__> I've a short question
[18:13] <jonathan__> and i know now you gonna say "just ask" ;)
[18:13] <jonathan__> ok
[18:13] <huie> castel_: it would probably have the port on the dalnet webpage
[18:13] <jonathan__> what's the console-command for a dist-upgrade via adept?
[18:14] <huie> !upgrade
[18:15] <castel_> port 6667 at dalnet error
[18:15] <castel_> anyone tell me other port >
[18:15] <castel_> ??
[18:15] <castel_> please
[18:15] <huie> castel_: press F2
[18:16] <Pici> castel_: I dont know, try http://www.dal.net/
[18:16] <richard_> i can install graphic acceleration from my ati 9200se
[18:16] <huie> castel_: add in irc.dal.net
[18:17] <huie> :700
[18:17] <huie> 7000
[18:17] <richard_> if someone need help............
[18:17] <huie> castel_: http://docs.dal.net/docs/newbie.html
[18:17] <huie> richard_: You can install it?
[18:18] <richard_> yes
[18:18] <richard_> i try differents ways
[18:18] <castel_> thanks
[18:18] <castel_> i will learn
[18:19] <castel_> and connect now
[18:19] <castel_> hhaha
[18:19] <castel_> muuuaaccchhh
[18:19] <castel_> i love you so much huei
[18:19] <castel_> at my web i can't see real player
[18:20] <castel_> how to install realplayer ?
[18:20] <castel_> i have .bin
[18:20] <castel_> but i can't to install
[18:20] <castel_> any one tell me ?
[18:20] <castel_> i am a newbie learn ubuntu
[18:20] <richard_> me too
[18:20] <castel_> i don't now about ubuntu
[18:21] <mkultras> open konsole
[18:21] <mkultras> and
[18:21] <mkultras> chmod +x the .bin file
[18:21] <mkultras> and then run the .bin
[18:21] <mkultras> file
[18:21] <mkultras> by typing its filename
[18:21] <castel_> where the console ?
[18:21] <mkultras> like ./realplayer.bin
[18:21] <mkultras> press alt+f2
[18:21] <mkultras> and type
[18:21] <mkultras> konsole
[18:22] <castel_> can't open the console
[18:22] <mkultras> oh if ur not in kubuntu then there is no konsole
[18:22] <castel_> can't open the konsole
[18:22] <mkultras> its called
[18:22] <castel_> ehy ?
[18:22] <mkultras> gnome-terminal instead
[18:22] <mkultras> but thats ubuntu
[18:22] <mkultras> you're in #kubuntu
[18:22] <mkultras> we use kde
[18:22] <mkultras> and kde has konsole
[18:22] <Ekushey> i so much want a spell checker with konversation
[18:22] <mkultras> not gnome-terminal
[18:23] <Pici> !enter | mkultras
[18:23] <castel_> terminal ?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> look in the kmenu /system/Konsole terminal program
[18:23] <castel_> for ehat ?
[18:23] <castel_> for what ?
[18:24] <BluesKaj> castel_, Konsole terminal program
[18:24] <Sadr> eh, can a backup serve as a WinCD? or do do I need to have that anyways+
[18:24] <castel_> where /
[18:24] <castel_> ?
[18:24] <Pici> Sadr: Huh?
[18:24] <castel_> i can't find
[18:24] <xjunior> I'm getting a black screen on X. I just installed Kubuntu (using KDE4). Can somebody help me? None error in Xorg.0.log
[18:24] <Sadr> because I don't really have anything on my old stationary that I care about, it's all about being able to reinstall Windows should everything get screwed up when I attempt a dual-boot..
[18:25] <BluesKaj> K_MENU , the blue icon on the left bottom
[18:25] <BluesKaj> with big K
[18:25] <castel_> i use ubuntu
[18:25] <castel_> maybe you tell me at kubuntu right ?
[18:25] <BluesKaj> then go look for help in #ubuntu
[18:25] <Pici> Sadr: I'm not sure what you're asking, if you need Windows support, you should try asking in ##windows
[18:26] <castel_> ok
[18:26] <castel_> we talk else
[18:26] <castel_> how to be hacker ?
[18:26] <castel_> hahhaaaa
[18:26] <castel_> any one want to sleep
[18:26] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[18:27] <BluesKaj> castel_, kubuntu uses kde , ubuntu uses gnome desktop..very different
[18:27] <BluesKaj> anyway I have stuff to do ...bb much later
[18:34] <sigma_12> what can i use to shorten a mp3 file?
[18:36] <sharpe_uk> Audacity can do that
[18:37] <sigma_12> !info audacity
[18:38] <sharpe_uk> there may be a little util that can do it as well but audacity can do it becuase Ive used it to make phone ringtones
[18:39] <sharpe_uk> handy been able to drop the quality and make them mono as well (saves space on the phone)
[18:39] <huie> xjunior: #kubuntu-kde4
[18:40] <sharpe_uk> ahh, according to google, mp3split can do it as well
[18:40] <grendal_prime> ok this is rediculas...none of the fn keys work anymore and the alt tab will not cycle through the runnign apps..(im acutally starting to think gnome would be easyer than this)
[18:41] <huie> grendal_prime: Eh?
[18:41] <grendal_prime> alt tab does nothing
[18:42] <huie> Does alt+F2
[18:42] <grendal_prime> and..the fn key..(dell 1420) will not work for all the blue keys on the keyboard...(screen bright up and down...crt/lcd
[18:43] <grendal_prime> ya that works and so does alt...f5.
[18:43] <grendal_prime> its like the keyboard settings are all jacked all of the sudden
[18:53] <grendal_prime> its frustrating
[19:01] <huie> grendal_prime: maybe you loaded a new keymap?
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> grendal_prime: I have to use the hotkeys utility to get the function keys on my inspiron to work.
[19:06] <genii> grendal_prime: When Dell shipped the 1420, they had ubuntu 7.04 installed, but it was a re-mastered install which contained proprietary stuff for it like the Intel 3945 driver, special keyboard drivers, etc.
[19:07] <engineer> so what?
[19:07] <genii> engineer: If he did something like upgrade to Hardy it would be lost
[19:07] <huie> Didn't Dell have that CD around somewhere?
[19:08] <engineer> then don't upgrade
[19:08] <engineer> ubuntu was specially tweaked for that laptop
[19:08] <engineer> until they provided their own upgrade version
[19:08] <engineer> why updating?
[19:08] <engineer> :/
[19:09] <genii> engineer: Ask him ( grendal_prime )
[19:10] <sivaji> hi genii
[19:13] <SilentDis> hello :)
[19:14] <SilentDis> trying to get my PalmOne Zire 72 setup. It appears it's not getting detected, dmesg shows it just as a 'new full speed USB device' and doesn't get assigned anything in the way of a port.  any suggestions?
[19:17] <genii> sivaji: Hello
[19:17] <sivaji> genii nice to see you again
[19:18] <genii> sivaji: Well, I'm almost always around in here during working days :) Do you have some support question today?
[19:18] <sivaji> lol no
[19:20] <genii> SilentDis: Google informs that under Gnome you would need the driver called   visor  installed and then use gnome-pilot
[19:22] <genii> SilentDis: The driver would be same for KDE (visor) but as for the application to access it, don't know offhand
[19:22] <Firefishe> I also use jpilot, and visor definitely needs to be installed.  Incidentally, if you're having trouble syncing, set the device to <usb:>, that solved all my problems, might for you if you're having trouble syncing.  Works for my clie', so I hope you have no problems.
[19:23] <SilentDis> is it a package i'm missing?
[19:23] <SilentDis> or something i modprobe in?
[19:24] <Firefishe> modprobe
[19:24] <genii> SilentDis: For the driver, yes to modprobe (for one-time use/testing)  or add the name for permanent to /etc/modules
[19:24] <Firefishe> sudo modprobe visor
[19:24] <Firefishe> I liked the Zire 71, with the slide open camera.
[19:24] <Firefishe> just had so little ram ;)
[19:25] <SilentDis> that got it, thanks :)
[19:25] <genii> SilentDis: :)
[19:25] <Firefishe> kewl SD.  If you still have problems, remember that usb: thing
[19:25] <Firefishe> usb:
[19:25] <Firefishe> goes under the device path listings in jpilot
[19:25] <Firefishe> works for kpilot too
[19:25] <SilentDis> yep, thanks.  I am seeing where it assigned, and i should be able to get kpilot to detect it w/o issue
[19:26] <Firefishe> remember:  press the jpilot sync button first, then the hotsync button on the handheld
[19:26] <Firefishe> same for backup
[19:37] <Jarod64153> does anyone on the channel know about configuring an intel i915 graphics controller on Hardy?
[19:38] <emilsedgh> Jarod64153: you dont need to
[19:38] <engineer> set intel as driver in xorg
[19:38] <emilsedgh> Jarod64153: that driver is free as in free speech and is already in default ubuntu installation
[19:38] <Jarod64153> i tried that, but it still doesnt work...i still can't set it to 1280x1024 res
[19:39] <Jarod64153> and yes, the mon does support it. used to be a windows box
[19:39] <Jarod64153> i can set to 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x768, and 1280x800
[19:40] <Jarod64153> but not the 1280x1024 that i want
[19:40] <Jarod64153> i've tried using the "intel" driver in xorg, and i've tried using 915resolution...I can't get either one to work
[19:47] <_CrashMaster_> Jarod64153: You're sure that your monitor can support that resolution?>
[19:47] <jsams64153> correct. It's an HP computer, and it was running windows just this morning, and it was running 1280x1024
[19:48] <jsams64153> is there a specific driver for the i915, or does it still use the i810 driver?
[19:48] <_CrashMaster_> jsams64153: Still noodling through the same problem myself. When I figure it out, I'll make sure I fill you in.
[19:48] <jsams64153> cool
[19:49] <jsams64153> it's pretty irritating...I can use the 1024x768 res, but it's so inferior when you're used to using higher reses
[19:50] <zach_> I'm trying to get my sound to work. It was working yesterday until i reinstalled some alsa stuff (base,utils,tools) in attempt to get a microphone working. I have a Creative Soundblaster Audigy SE and alsa or anything doesn't seem able to recognize it.
[19:50] <genii> jsams64153: There is an i915 driver
[19:50] <jsams64153> where is it and how do i install it?
[19:51] <genii> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[19:51] <jsams64153> i already have that installed
[19:52] <genii> jsams64153: Does: lsmod       show i915 or i810 or so ?
[19:52] <jsams64153> it says i915
[19:53] <genii> jsams64153: Then you're already running it. You may conceivably need to use 915resolution
[19:53] <jsams64153> i've tried that
[19:53] <jsams64153> i can't get it to work
[19:54] <genii> jsams64153: What is lcpci | grep VGA    saying is model? 945 or something?
[19:55] <jsams64153> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[19:57] <sybux_> Hi all
[19:58] <jsams64153> hola
[19:58] <ifes> hols s todos
[19:58] <sybux_> I just want to do a very stupid action but I can't remember how to !!! I need to connect to my ubuntu server via ssh and encapsulate X11
[19:59] <jsams64153> @genii
[19:59] <jsams64153> you got anything?
[20:00] <genii> jsams64153: Naw. Googling shows a lot of ppl with similar issues on this chipset, but no acceptable answers so far.
[20:00] <jsams64153> i know
[20:00] <jsams64153> it's quite frustrating
[20:00] <jsams64153> i've spent 2 hours so far today just sifting
[20:00] <caryjebus> is there a way to make the digital clock 12-hour
[20:01] <jsams64153> isn'ther there a way to unload/reload the mod
[20:02] <jsams64153> sorry for my horrible grammar
[20:02] <Odd-rationale> jsams64153: sudo modprobe <module>
[20:02] <Odd-rationale> jsams64153: sudo modprobe -r <module>, to remove
[20:03] <genii> caryjebus: Rightclick on clock... Date and Time Format... Time and Dates tab ... change Time Format from HH:MM:SS to pH:MM:SS AMPM
[20:04] <sybux_> any1 know how to regenerate certificate used by postfix ?
[20:06] <kalorin_> I want to ditch the panel completely and just go to widgets in kde4
[20:06] <kalorin_> can't seem to make that work
[20:06] <jsams64153> not a good idea if you're not running a high res...widgets take up a lot of room
[20:07] <kalorin_> that bar on the bottom takes up an obnoxious amount of room on a 16:9 WXGA laptop :(
[20:07] <kalorin_> what I'd really like is to right click on the desktop and have the start menu appear
[20:07] <jsams64153> @genii...Away From Keyboard
[20:10] <AdamTech1> I need help
[20:10] <AdamTech1> how do you install flash player 9?
[20:10] <DarkriftX> kalorin_, what about when you have 10 apps open and cannot see your desktop? you going to minimize everything to get to desktop?
[20:11] <DarkriftX> its much easier to just make the bar like 15px high
[20:11] <kalorin_> virtual desktops
[20:11] <DarkriftX> and if you wanted, change it so the width is half the screen or so
[20:11] <kalorin_> that'd be fine too if it'd work and not distort stuff terribly
[20:11] <caryjebus> genii:no option for that
[20:12] <DarkriftX> mine is already small, but i have it 100% width
[20:12] <kalorin_> I'd like to put it on the left side and use it there, but I can't because the clock and several of the icons eat a TON of verticle space hwen they're on the side
[20:12] <caryjebus> genii: no option for that
[20:12] <DarkriftX> it takes up the same space as an apps titlebar does on my laptop
[20:12] <DarkriftX> make it not show the date, and the clock can be made to show smaller also
[20:12] <DarkriftX> or hell, make it not show clock either
[20:13] <kalorin_> at custom at 16px it's ok but the bottoms of things are missing
[20:13] <DarkriftX> odd
[20:13] <DarkriftX> mine doesnt do that
[20:13] <kalorin_> for that matter I can't change teh screen resolution at all
[20:13] <AdamTech1> How do you install Flash Player 9?
[20:13] <caryjebus> is there a way to make the digital clock 12-hour
[20:13] <Pliskin> package flashplugin-nonfree
[20:13] <kalorin_> it don't even get an admin button on the applet and the xorg.conf just says "detected device"
[20:14] <DarkriftX> wow
[20:14] <DarkriftX> id get htat fixed first
[20:14] <DarkriftX> if you can get a higher res, that would be best
[20:14] <kalorin_> well I think it's maxed out
[20:15] <kalorin_> likely a bug in the intel graphics chipset drivers
[20:16] <DarkriftX> i got a question: how do i make it so that my cursor does NOT have to be on top of the app i want to type in? right now if i open kate and leave my mouse hovering over xchat, kate is in focus and is on top, but my text will go to xchat because my mouse is hovering over it. very annoying
[20:19] <biagidp> How can I check the path my java is installed to?
[20:19] <DarkriftX> hrmmm
[20:20] <DarkriftX> try which java
[20:20] <DarkriftX> shows mines in /usr/bin/java
[20:20] <biagidp> me too
[20:20] <biagidp> I've got all the sun-java6 packages installed but java -version still gives me 1.5.0 :-(
[20:21] <DarkriftX> :S
[20:22] <kalorin_> dark, I think it's focus stealing maybe, look in the mouse options and play around. I have it set to click to take focus
[20:22] <kalorin_> [15:20] <biagidp> I've got all the sun-java6 packages installed but java -version still gives me 1.5.0 :-(
[20:22] <caryjebus> how can I disable ALL autherization
[20:22] <kalorin_> try looking in /etc/alterantives
[20:22] <kalorin_> I hate that package btw, I wish they'd just kill it
[20:22] <kalorin_> who cares
[20:23] <kalorin_> cary: install vista?
[20:23] <caryjebus> no
[20:23] <caryjebus> in KDE
[20:24] <DarkriftX> thx kalorin_
[20:24] <caryjebus> help?
[20:26] <DarkriftX> ok, cant find the mouse options other then the basics in system settings>keyboard and mouse, but i didnt see it in there
[20:26] <DarkriftX> anyone got any ideas where i can change the focus behavior of my mouse?
[20:32] <kalorin_> window behavior?
[20:32] <jsams64153> @genii...i'm back
[20:32] <jsams64153> were you able to find anything?
[20:32] <kalorin_> dark, look in the window behavior
[20:41] <_sourcemaker> i have a vpn problem... i always receive the kernel message "martian source" and "ll header"
[20:42] <jsams64153> brb
[20:43] <someon1> Whats the command to dump the output of a ping to a text file?
[20:43] <someon1> ping URL << logfile.txt or something?
[20:45] <someon1> anyone?
[20:45] <NickNak> someon1: ping URL > logfile.txt
[20:46] <someon1> and does that overwrite logfile, or append?
[20:46] <someon1> overwrite. How do you append?
[20:47] <NickNak> use >> to append
[20:47] <someon1> ah, thanks.
[20:49] <Cr3X3d> hi
[20:49] <jsams64153> @genii...did you find anything?
[20:52] <DarkriftX> someon1, make sure you add a limit or the ping will go on forever
[20:54] <Cr3X3d> hi
[21:01] <xjunior> I'm getting a black screen on X. I just installed Kubuntu (using KDE4). Can somebody help me? None error in Xorg.0.log
[21:01] <jsams64153> does anyone know how to get an intel i915 chip to display at all of the available resolutions, eg. 1280x1024? I have tried 915resolution, and i have the xserver-xorg-video-intel package installed. Modprobe shows i915 mod running, but i only have 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x768 and 1280x800 available. My monitor does support 1280x1024, it runs that when i boot windows.
[21:05] <kalorin_> jsams64153: I have that chipset and have only been running 8.04 for a few days now, that's on my list of stuff to find out but I don't know yet.
[21:06] <huie> #kubuntu-kde4 << xjunior
[21:06] <Jarod64153> is there a way to recompile the kernel? maybe something got left out of the "factory" compilation
[21:07] <tekgeeklt> my laptop has that same chipset I think thats the drivers that show up but my max resolution is 1280x800  because of the wide screen but in other linux distro's the drivers were updated to be an 810 intel driver
[21:08] <tekgeeklt> oops sorry its intel 945 video
[21:08] <tekgeeklt> but it is using an !810
[21:08] <tekgeeklt> driver
[21:09] <Jarod64153> yeah...i've heard mention of a i915 driver for the chipset, but I can't find it
[21:10] <karl> ls
[21:10] <huie> .
[21:10] <huie> ..
[21:12] <tekgeeklt> well I just opened the package manager not the add/remove programs one ... and there is a file in there for 915 resolution
[21:12] <tekgeeklt> 915resolution is a tool to modify the video BIOS of the 800 and 900 series Intel graphics chipsets. This includes the 845G, 855G, and 865G chipsets, as well as 915G, 915GM, and 945G chipsets. This modification is necessary to allow the display of certain graphics resolutions for an Xorg or XFree86 graphics server.
[21:12] <Jarod64153> doesnt work
[21:12] <tekgeeklt> okay
[21:12] <Jarod64153> i spent 2 hours on it...:)
[21:15] <Drunktard> s there a tool to automatically configure my monitors and layout, xinerama or not, or something close to that? thought maybe dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg would do it but it's only using one screen atm...
[21:15] <caryjebus>  is there to make the Konversation backround black but make normal text white
[21:16] <kalorin> caryjebus: preferences -> colors?
[21:16] <Lynoure> What can one do if trying to upgrade Dapper to Hardy with  sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop   results in a notice saying there is no new release?
[21:16] <caryjebus> theres no normal text options
[21:18] <caryjebus> help?
[21:19] <tekgeeklt> there should be but I when I change the settings it does not work
[21:19] <tekgeeklt> but what I do is just make a negative of the window by hitting  super + N  if you have negative enabled in compiz fusion
[21:20] <Jarod64153> @tekgeekIt...does it mean anything when sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not allow me to choose my enabled resolutions?
[21:21] <tekgeeklt> I really do not know that much about configuring the video I got lucky and it just works on all my computers
[21:21] <Jarod64153> bum   :)
[21:22] <tekgeeklt> yea
[21:22] <pteague_work> how do i open a server port to the world?
[21:22] <tekgeeklt> I just installed kubuntu two days ago
[21:22] <tekgeeklt> I was using PClinuxOS for the past couple of months
[21:22] <Lynoure> pteague_work: install a server, configure it to use that port and it will be open unless you have installed firewall between it and the world
[21:23] <tekgeeklt> caryjebus: there is a settings for colors  under settings
[21:23] <Lynoure> (oh, yes, start it after configuring, too)
[21:23] <pteague_work> i just ran nmap against my box & on the box it shows mysql port is open... running nmap from a remote box to my box doesn't show the mysql port as being open
[21:24] <Lynoure> No ideas on the "No new release found" upgrade problem?
[21:25] <Jarod64153> has anyone been able to get 915resolution to work on an intel i915 video controller?
[21:25] <Jarod64153> i'm trying to use the 1280x1024 res...
[21:25] <Jarod64153> i've tried 915res before, but i want to make sure i was trying the right things...
[21:26] <tekgeeklt> caryjebus:  I was able to change the colors in konversation  Settigns > configure konversation  > colors
[21:26] <pteague_work> Lynoure: afaik i have a default kubuntu installation... so any idea why mysql isn't appearing to other boxes would be helpful
[21:27] <tekgeeklt> other boxes in your internal network?
[21:28] <tekgeeklt> I have had xampp running which is a package setup for mysql and it works for me .. using my machines  internal IP address
[21:28] <tekgeeklt> but if you want to access it outside the network you do have to port forward in the router
[21:29] <Lynoure> pteague_work: pastebining your configuration file for it might help someone to help you. Quite often it turn out it was not bound to the public ip
[21:33] <pteague_work> Lynoure: ah, there we go... i think...  default config for mysql is to bind on <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:34] <Lynoure> pteague_work: rather sane default for mysql
[21:35] <pteague_work> yep, i normally don't mess much with mysql config
[21:36] <Lynoure> Now if only someone had even "worked for me" for my question :)
[21:38] <pc_> Buenas, algun español?
[21:38] <pteague_work> no new release found? you using gutsy?
[21:38] <Lynoure> pteague_work: dapper to hardy upgrade
[21:39] <tekgeeklt> isn't there a spanish kubuntu channel?
[21:39] <tekgeeklt> !sp
[21:39] <tekgeeklt> hrmm
[21:39] <Lynoure> tekgeeklt: probably #ubuntu-es?
[21:39] <tekgeeklt> !es
[21:39] <pteague_work> dapper was a LTS wasn't it?
[21:39] <tekgeeklt> yea there it is
[21:39] <Lynoure> pteague_work: yes.
[21:40] <tekgeeklt> I like that macro to reffer people to other language based channels
[21:40] <jsams64153> does anybody know where the i915 driver is? (intel)
[21:40] <Lynoure> pteague_work: I've gotten "I guess it should work" but that's all... Even knowing it worked for someone would be better than nothing
[21:42] <pteague_work> i've not done an LTS to LTS upgrade... i followed the releases :( & unfortunately i have to add to the it should work crowd
[21:43] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> hey guys sup
[21:43] <pteague_work> Lynoure: have you tried #ubuntu-server ?  they seem to have answers for things nobody else knows about
[21:43] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> anybody know why wpa_supplicant daemon doesn't wanna start in hardy?
[21:43] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> on boot
[21:44] <Lynoure> pteague_work: it's a desktop
[21:44] <pteague_work> yes, but the same should apply... & i've even asked them desktop questions before
[21:45] <Lynoure> pteague_work: Don't wanna get kicked for offtopic, and the steps are slightly different in howtos
[22:02] <allenon> can anyone tell me of a place to find what's included in the 3.64gb dvd version of Ubuntu64?
[22:03] <unavailable> ok.. i have ubuntu but this might be helped in here...  anyway i installed aac and wmv codecs and now my sound is out
[22:03] <mkultras> jsams64153: the 915 driver is in the package 915resolution maybe ?
[22:03] <Lynoure> Seems no joy with the cd image mounted either (no cd burner here)
[22:04] <mkultras> jsams64153: or in xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:04] <jsams64153> see, i can't get 915res to work
[22:04] <mkultras> i had a lot of trouble getting it to work too
[22:04] <mkultras> i''m still fighting with it actually
[22:04] <mkultras> i set my resolution in /etc/default/915resoltion
[22:04] <unavailable> anyone got any ideas??
[22:05] <mkultras> like the readme says in /usr/share/doc/915resolution/
[22:05] <mkultras> and i had it working for a bit at 1400x1050
[22:05] <mkultras> its actuall ok now every once and awhile i have to redo my xorg.conf with Xorg -configure though
[22:06] <mkultras> i wish i could master xrandr command syntax then i would be fine
[22:06] <mkultras> either that or the xorg.conf modeline syntax
[22:06] <mkultras> either or would do
[22:07] <mkultras> i can turn my external port on and off with xrandr so far thats about it
[22:07] <jsams64153> i just got my 1280x1024 res to work.
[22:07] <jsams64153> i didn't even use 915res
[22:07] <jsams64153> it's all in the xorg.conf file...where should i post this beast?
[22:08] <mkultras> pastes
[22:08] <mkultras> paste.ubuntu.com
[22:08] <mkultras> 'heh
[22:08] <mkultras> i g2g hometime tho i have to go watch sex in the city movie ughhh i'd rather configure x :-/
[22:09] <michael__> hey!
[22:09] <michael__> anyone here?
[22:10] <jsams64153> i know what you mean, mkultras
[22:11] <Bob190> how do i go about changing my password in terminal?
[22:12] <sharpe_uk> man passwd
[22:12] <Bob190> ok
[22:13] <Bob190> i lost mine so if i go to revovery what would i type verbatium?
[22:13] <sharpe_uk> ah thats different
[22:13] <jsams64153> for anyone out there having issues with your intel i915 chip rendering all of the available resolutions, i've just put the relavent part of my xorg.conf file at http://paste.ubuntu.com/19979
[22:13] <sharpe_uk> if your just changing your password itll ask for the old one
[22:14] <xago> amigos...tengo problemas con evolution!!!
[22:14] <sharpe_uk> you can either boot into single user mode and edit the password file or boot off a liveCD and do it
[22:15] <[mad]Berry|Lappy> !wifi
[22:15] <sharpe_uk> >Bob190, save me typing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273531
[22:16] <mohbana_> hi
[22:19] <mohbana_> hi anyone here/
[22:19] <sharpe_uk> 348 people according to my client
[22:20] <mohbana_> how can i install kde4 on gnome hardy?
[22:20] <tekgeeklt> I just tried to change my password in the konsole and it says bad password too simple
[22:20] <tekgeeklt> I hate that
[22:21] <tekgeeklt> my current one is complicated but I am doing alot of configuring right now so I have to type it in everytime
[22:22] <mark_> How can I sign in with my registered nick?
[22:22] <tekgeeklt> you don't need to sign in with a registered nick unless you want to private messge someone I think
[22:23] <tekgeeklt> they only made it so that you can't message anyone privately untill you have a registered nick so that people don't come in here and just spam everyone
[22:23] <sharpe_uk> >tek, you can change the timeout on sudo before it asks for the password again
[22:23] <sharpe_uk> not recommended but you can
[22:23] <tekgeeklt> its okay for me right now
[22:24] <mark_> OK. and how can i upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10???
[22:25] <Lynoure> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/223741 seemed to be the cause of my problem
[22:28] <siofwolves> getfucked
[22:29] <siofwolves> ummm. sorry about that
[22:29] <siofwolves> wrong window....
[22:29]  * siofwolves hangs his head in shame
[22:29] <sharpe_uk> hell of a typo :)
[22:29] <rickest> personally, I thought it was great advice and I'll be thinking about it seriously this weekend
[22:30] <Pir4nhaX> hi =)
[22:30] <sharpe_uk> did even realise linux had a getfu**** command
[22:30] <siofwolves> i've gotta change my root pass now...
[22:30] <rickest> lol
[22:30] <Pir4nhaX> !fr
[22:30] <sharpe_uk> will have to read the man page on that "man getfu****" actually maybe not
[22:33] <siofwolves> my apologies to any minors or anyone else offended.
[22:33] <sharpe_uk> I was mortally offended, disgusting language and totally unacceptable ;)
[22:35] <solifugus> Is there a package that holds a bunch of ssl certs?
[22:42] <Pollywog> did anyone else experience virtualbox breaking after an update the past few days?  Is a fix expected soon?
[22:45] <khaur> Pollywog: breaking in what way? do you have the proper virtualbox-ose-modules package installed for your kernel?
[22:45] <Freddy2> hi
[22:45] <Freddy2> is there any tool to get the current location of a desired window in the screen?
[22:49] <sidux_> hello
[22:49] <sidux_> i want to have a fresh and clean up-to-date KDE4
[22:49] <sidux_> and this should based on QT4.4
[22:49] <sidux_> so, if i want QT4.4. have i wait for ibex?
[22:50] <sidux_> or is their a way to get it now
[22:50] <sidux_> ?
[22:50] <sidux_> without going from QT4 up to QT4.4
[22:50] <_Angelus_> hey guys , i tried kde4 which messed my kmenu items, im back on kde3 how do i get back the kmenu icons ?
[22:53] <nello> cè qualche italiano?
[22:54] <sidux_> si!
[22:54] <sidux_> or was that spain? :/
[22:54] <nello> e qualche gnocca?
[22:54] <sidux_> nello!
[22:54] <sidux_> try #kubuntu-it
[22:56] <tekgeeklt> !it
[22:56] <sidux_> !de
[22:56] <sidux_> :D
[22:59] <zach_> my reso is stuck at 320x240 o_o
[23:01] <michael__> hey i lost my panel  in kde4
[23:01] <michael__> does any1 kno how to get it back
[23:10] <michael__> hellow
[23:11] <musik> hello freunde
[23:11] <musik> what is my penis like?
[23:14] <michael__> hed does any1 know hot to change the panel in kde4
[23:15] <sidux_> www.fuckinggoogleit.com
[23:16] <Riddell> sidux_: that's not very friendly
[23:17] <ougs> how do I enable my wireless network in rescue mode (without X)?
[23:18] <Riddell> michael__: killall plasma; rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*; plasma
[23:19] <michael__> sorry sidux and thank you riddell i have had it back for a while now
[23:19] <Riddell> ougs: sudo iwconfig <wifi-interface> essid <wifi-hub0name>; sudo dhclient <wifi-interface>
[23:19] <michael__> ...i googled it
[23:19] <michael__> but theres one thing that google wont help me with, how do i get my panel cool looking like everyone elses
[23:20] <michael__> i cant find the settings, i cant realy explain how i want it to look so here is a link
[23:20] <michael__> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glassified?content=81388
[23:20] <ougs> Riddell: thankyou. i think i'öö svript that
[23:23] <Riddell> michael__: right click on desktop, desktop settings, fiddle with theme
[23:24] <michael__> Riddell: ill give it a go
[23:24] <tekgeeklt> that is just a kde theme I think .. you download it and then go into system settings > appearance there under colors you can import your theme
[23:24] <tekgeeklt> I did mine to an all grey look which I like
[23:26] <michael__> yes i know about the theme (or maybe i have no idea) but you see how the panel is smaller and well...cool, thats wut i want
[23:27] <sharpe_uk> you can do stuff like that with any version of KDE, http://www.noirlorduk.karoo.net/mydesktops1.png thats my setup
[23:27] <tekgeeklt> the you mean the taskbar?
[23:27] <sharpe_uk> I tend not to use the themes from kde-look because some of them can be *very* resource intensive (depending of course on the theme)
[23:28] <michael__> im sorry ive been using gnome for 3 yrs bear wit me
[23:29] <michael__> im trying to find another picture cuz i obviously have no idea what im talkin about
[23:30] <tekgeeklt> if you right click on the taskbar it will take you to the settings that allows you to change size and transparancy and placement
[23:31] <michael__> when i right click it says panel settings with few options (im on kde4)
[23:32] <sharpe_uk> played with KDE4, was impressed but stuck with 3, alot of the good stuff at the moment is under the hood, it'll be a while till the end user gets all the good stuff
[23:32] <tekgeeklt> I am using ver 3 of kde I am not sure if they changed any settings on 4
[23:32] <Pliskin> michael__ : are you using kde4.1 ?
[23:32] <lordek_> i am : D
[23:32] <Pliskin> the theme you want is only for KDE4.1
[23:34] <michael__> ya i am
[23:34] <michael__> the latest kde4 just updated about an hour ago
[23:37] <michael__> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=73046&file1=73046-1.jpg&file2=73046-2.jpg&file3=&name=Aya
[23:38] <michael__> that panel somethings like that, there jus seams to be very few settings when panel settings is broght up
[23:39] <tekgeeklt> well under the panel configuration you can change the length and hight
[23:39] <tekgeeklt> thats under arrangment
[23:40] <tekgeeklt> then you go to appearance to make it transparent
[23:40] <michael__> k
[23:48] <_CrashMaster_> Does anyone know if the Intrepid alpha 1 went as planned?
[23:49] <shadowbox> hello
[23:50] <shadowbox> now using KDE 4.0 and may I say....... Wow!
[23:51] <Daisuke_Ido> you may not.
[23:51] <shadowbox> ok
[23:51] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[23:52] <shadowbox> it's cool as all get out
[23:52] <jussi01> shadowbox: nice :) you maybe interested to pop over to #kubuntu-kde4 now :)
[23:52] <Daisuke_Ido> haven't used it for long, i see
[23:52] <shadowbox> just a few days
[23:53] <shadowbox> its hard to get installed on certain laptops, but fixable
[23:54] <shadowbox> I have put it on 1 laptop and my desktop
[23:54] <shadowbox> and used it to save the data on a locked up usebale windows machine
[23:55] <shadowbox> so basicly it has already 'paid' for itself
[23:56] <jussi01> shadowbox: great :) May I just remind you this is the support channel - if you just want to chat about it you can use #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:56] <shadowbox> oops sorry
[23:56] <shadowbox> thanks
[23:59] <basy> hi what can i use for chat on LAN of kubuntu pc's that is not connected to internet?


[07:18] <drecondius> does anyone know how i can use ubiquity's partition editor or make parted look like ubiquity for the visualization to help me not muck up


[05:31] <semitones> Hi, could I get some help reporting an ALSA bug? I don't know what relevant information to include
[05:31] <semitones> or if it is even a bug with alsa
[05:36] <phil93> Hi there, if you type 'alt+f2' then type 'ubuntu-bug alsa-driver' in the prompt, apport should attach the necessary information to the bug report for you.
[05:38] <phil93> Sorry, type 'ubuntu-bug alsa-base' instead.
[05:41] <semitones> i'm not sure it is alsa
[05:41] <semitones> the speakers sometimes don't mute when I plug in headphones, and the keyboard volume up/down keys change the speaker volume as well as master
[05:45] <phil93> I'm not sure what package would be at fault for the volume up/down keys, but I'm seeing other bugs concerning speakers not muting after headphones are plugged in filed against both alsa and pulseaudio, so I would just report it against either alsa or pulseaudio.
[05:52] <semitones> ok. Do you think I should report it as a separate bug (hardware may be separate) or add my info to an existing one
[05:54] <phil93> I would file a separate bug report, as the hardware might indeed be different.
[05:58] <semitones> alright. thanks very much
[05:58] <phil93> No problem
[16:59] <pedro_> BugSquad Meeting in ~1 min!
[17:00] <pedro_> hggdh, roadmr kamusin yofel ^
[17:01] <SwitchDK> <- is here as well for BugSquad meeting
[17:01] <roadmr> pedro_: is that here or in #ubuntu-meeting?
[17:01]  * roadmr had the meeting scheduled for 12:30 EST - obviously wrong :)
[17:01] <pedro_> Meeting o clock!
[17:02] <pedro_> oh it says #ubuntu-meeting
[17:02] <pedro_> lets go there :-)
[17:02] <pedro_> hggdh,  roadmr yofel kamusin SwitchDK  -> #ubuntu-meeting
[17:11] <om26er> stock responses are not being saved in chromium, could anyone help?
[17:15] <om26er> bdmurray, ^^
[17:16] <pedro_> he's out today
[17:16] <om26er> oh
[17:16] <om26er> pedro_, you use firefox?
[17:17] <pedro_> om26er, yeah, i use chromium just for watching videos on youtube :-P
[17:17] <pedro_> and for tweetdeck
[17:18] <om26er> interesting :-P
[17:33] <hggdh> om26er: I (dimly) remember an email, I think to bugsquad, talking about having the responses on chromium
[17:33] <om26er> hggdh, it used to work a few months back, this time I tried they dont :/
[17:34]  * om26er was on a mega bug triage mission
[17:34] <hggdh> hum. prolly needs a nudge to recognise the new chromium version
[17:34] <hggdh> but my javascript sucks...
[17:35]  * hggdh notes it down -- also bothered by it
[17:36] <om26er> hggdh, thank you :-) I might try an older chromium to see if it helps ;-)
[21:15] <LinuxMercedes> Hey, I've got a bug to report against the ubuntu 11.04 installer. Where on earth do I go to do that?
[21:16] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: Have you tried 11.10? maybe the bug is fixed in the new installer
[21:17] <LinuxMercedes> Well, the bug is pretty simple: It can't install the ubuntu studio suites because those metapackages don't exist
[21:18] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: hm. Any reason why you haven't tried 11.10?
[21:19] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: you can potentially report the bug on the installer on launchpad, but you're likely to be told that you need to try 11.10 first
[21:21] <LinuxMercedes> Well, I haven't tried against 11.10 just because it's not on our PXE server
[21:21] <LinuxMercedes> I'll bug a friend to check it for me
[21:21] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: ok
[21:21] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/ is where you'd report a bug, but you'll most likely be requested to test 11.10 first
[21:22] <LinuxMercedes> ok cool
[21:24] <roadmr> thanks :)
[21:24] <LinuxMercedes> Hey, no problem...I like seeing a nice seamless install just as much as anyone else
[21:25] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: was the install working before?
[21:26] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: I'm thinking the 11.04 packages may have disappeared from the repositories now that 11.10 is out
[21:26] <LinuxMercedes> I've actually never tried this before
[21:26] <LinuxMercedes> that's also what I figured
[21:26] <LinuxMercedes> and 11.04 isn't LTS, so...
[21:29] <LinuxMercedes> oddly enough, though, the missing ubuntustudio-* packages are present when I apt-cache search them on a different 11.04 box
[21:32] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: so if you mention you're installing from PXE, maybe something in your network/ firewall / proxy config is preventing them from being found
[21:32] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: the apt-cache search uses the local database, but if you were to actually try to download, it may fail
[21:33] <LinuxMercedes> oh ok
[21:33] <LinuxMercedes> hmm
[21:33] <LinuxMercedes> that'd be odd if they were, since the box that I checked from was also pxe installed from the same image
[21:33] <LinuxMercedes> and is on the same network now
[21:34] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: when was the working box installed?
[21:34] <LinuxMercedes> let's see...
[21:34] <LinuxMercedes> two-three months ago
[21:34] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: ok so it worked all fine because 11.04 packages were in place
[21:35] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: but the new installs fail because those packages are no longer fetchable
[21:35] <LinuxMercedes> ah okay
[21:35] <LinuxMercedes> I would have figured that those packages would have vanished after I did an apt-get update
[21:38] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: I bet if you do apt-get download <some ubuntu studio package> from your working 11.04 box, it'll be unable to download the .deb files
[21:38] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: thus confirming that the packages are simply gone
[21:39] <LinuxMercedes> nope, it downloaded fine
[21:41] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: that's strange :)
[21:41] <LinuxMercedes> heh
[21:41] <LinuxMercedes> yep
[21:41] <LinuxMercedes> well, once the other box finishes installing, I'll see what it thinks
[21:42] <roadmr> LinuxMercedes: ok, keep us posted
[21:44] <LinuxMercedes> Will do
[22:17] <LinuxMercedes> well this is interesting
[22:17] <LinuxMercedes> on a /different/ 11.04 build, I'm now getting that us.archive.ubuntu.com no longer supports natty
[22:20] <roadmr> oh
[22:20] <roadmr> that sounds accurate :)


[00:06] <willc> After using gparted and partitioning/formatting the drive and live booting ubuntu from USB I could see the drive and install ubuntu on it. Now when booting ubuntu from usb I can no longer see the drive
[00:06] <willc> What are the odds of HP writing over the boot information?
[00:10] <dw1> oh emojis already work fine.. it just wasnt pasting right through vnc
[00:12] <Bashing-om> willc: Is this a EFI machine ? What mode in the firmware is set for booting ?
[00:26] <willc> Bashing-om, https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c02782539
[00:28] <Bashing-om> willc: Looking ^ .
[00:29] <willc> Could it be because i've been trying with 120gb and 240gb ssds and it seems to require 128-160?
[00:37] <Bashing-om> willc: No - the size of the drive does not matter - however for a SSD then AHCI in the firmware is needed. The link above does not tell if this machine is EFI - Windows 7 support may be either legacy or EFI.
[00:39] <tomreyn> hpqflash bios, should be legacy bios
[00:42] <tomreyn> https://support.hp.com/ca-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-probook-6560b-notebook-pc/5045605/swItemId/ob-99105-3
[00:43] <willc> ahci is enabled
[00:44] <Bashing-om> willc: see tomreyn's hint ^ - updated bios is a good thing.
[00:44] <tomreyn> there's no update available
[00:45] <tomreyn> i just looked it up to see whether it's legacy or uefi
[00:46] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: :D
[00:51] <ldiebold> Could someone help me debug a https problem I've been facing for weeks now!
[00:52] <ldiebold> I'm unable to apt-get any https packages and have tried everything I could find on the corners of the net :)
[00:53] <tatertots> ldiebold: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[00:53] <ldiebold> yes! Here is the error `No system certificates available. Try installing ca-certificates`
[00:53] <ldiebold> (I'm new to freenode, so still learning to format things nicely)
[00:56] <ldiebold> I've tried reinstalling ca-certificates, reinstalling apt, deleting all certificates in `/etc/ssl/certs`
[00:57] <ldiebold> And I would use http, but unfortunately some repos like jenkins and docker don't seem to have http mirrors!
[00:57] <willc> I rHmm. Apparently the system was put into hibernation mode when last shut down
[00:59] <Bashing-om> willc: That too will do it - while Windows hybernated linux will not touch the drive.
[01:01] <willc> Here I am making trouble for ya'll over stupid things :P
[01:05] <Bashing-om> willc: Not a trouble to attempt to help in any case :P
[01:08] <willc> updating bios; eek!
[01:09] <willc> bricking a machine is always scary
[01:09] <willc> *potentially*
[01:15] <tomreyn> ldiebold: can you run this and post the url it returns? this won't make any changes to your system:   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[01:16] <ldiebold> tomreyn https://termbin.com/uu7f
[01:16] <ldiebold> And thankyou!
[01:17] <tomreyn> ldiebold: "i've tried [..] deleting all certificates in `/etc/ssl/certs`" - this won't have improved upon the situation. you will need to configure a (plain) http url for the ubuntu repositories,   sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall ca-certificates
[01:18] <tomreyn> looks like you should be able to immediately reinstall ca-certificates
[01:18] <tomreyn> no need to diable any repositories
[01:19] <tomreyn> (nor to reconfigure them)
[01:19] <ldiebold> I ran that command, yet am still getting the same error `Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate issuer is unknown.  Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification.`
[01:20] <ldiebold> might be worth adding, I'm not behind a proxy. Just my home laptop with a basic router setup
[01:20] <tomreyn> just run:   sudo apt install --reinstall ca-certificates
[01:20] <willc> After putting in the initial HD and taking the system out of Hibernation mode, updating the bios, and shutting down properly *drum roll* - It booted up Ubuntu!
[01:20]  * willc celebrates
[01:20] <willc> thanks Bashing-om and tomreyn for your assistance today
[01:20] <tomreyn> willc: hey, congratulations, that's good news
[01:21] <ldiebold> tomreyn, I just ran `sudo apt install --reinstall ca-certificates`, then `sudo apt-get update` and am getting the same error
[01:21] <Bashing-om> !yay | willc
[01:31] <tomreyn> ldiebold: sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends ca-certificates; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt install ca-certificates
[01:38] <ldiebold> tomreyn still the same error. I'll try docker just in case this is an issue with jenkins repo (Though I'm pretty sure it's not)
[01:40] <tomreyn> ldiebold: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates    #   then select Yes, and enable all the certificates listed
[01:40] <ldiebold> Might be worth mentioning that firefox works fine, and I can wget `https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable`
[01:40] <ldiebold> Have tried this before, but will do it again :)
[01:41] <ldiebold> same problem
[01:41] <tomreyn> ldiebold: the problem you're dealing with is that your system thinks that all CAs are untrusted, so at leats apt will fail whenever https urls are used. which is the case (only) for the jenkins apt repository on your system at this time.
[01:42] <tomreyn> did the second screen of     sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates      list many certificates, though?
[01:42] <ldiebold> Yes, I'm pretty sure it listed all of mozillas standard certs
[01:42] <ldiebold> probably about 50 of them
[01:43] <tomreyn> ls -lah /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
[01:43] <ldiebold> `-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 194K Aug 30 11:42 /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt`
[01:43] <tomreyn> hmm you said you can use wget with the https url fine, interesting
[01:44] <ldiebold> Will see if I can paste the output (I don't know if that's possible in freenode!)
[01:44] <ldiebold> wget https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable--2020-08-30 11:39:22--  https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stableResolving pkg.jenkins.io (pkg.jenkins.io)... <IP_ADDRESS>, 2a04:4e42:7::645Connecting to pkg.jenkins.io (pkg.jenkins.io)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:443... connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved PermanentlyLocation:
[01:44] <ldiebold> https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable/ [following]--2020-08-30 11:39:23--  https://pkg.jenkins.io/debian-stable/Reusing existing connection to pkg.jenkins.io:443.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 13021 (13K) [text/html]Saving to: 'debian-stable’debian-stable
[01:44] <ldiebold> 100%[[01:45] <tomreyn> !paste
[01:46] <tomreyn> so, yes, wget works, validates the certificate fine
[01:46] <tomreyn> does it also work with curl?
[01:47] <ldiebold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WS82kxn6YG/
[01:48] <ldiebold> I thought it might be an issue with apt-transport-https, but that's getting way beyond my knowledge :/
[01:51] <tomreyn> ldiebold: let's see:  sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::https=1' update 2>&1 > /tmp/log; echo $? ; cat /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:51] <tomreyn> ldiebold: this should print a number and a url, tell us about both
[01:58] <willc> handy tool that nc termbin.com
[01:58] <Bashing-om> ldiebold: tomreyn: "probably about 50 of them" I expect the 40 key limit is still in effect: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195579 . What shows ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' ?
[01:59] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: this number was about CA certificatesm not apt repository (GPG) signing keys
[02:00] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: :( I do need to read - yes !
[02:01] <tomreyn> unless the first error message on https://termbin.com/uu7f is very misleading, this does not seem to be an apt reposioty GPG signing key related issue
[02:01] <tomreyn> but one about TLS (HTTPS) certificate validation
[02:02] <tomreyn> which interestingly affects apt-get / apt-transport-https but not curl nor wget, which should be using the same CA-certificates file (/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt)
[02:03] <tomreyn> ldiebold: still around?
[02:03] <ldiebold> tomreyn https://termbin.com/z5tf the number was `100`
[02:03] <ldiebold> Bashing-om 26
[02:04] <tomreyn> ldiebold: hmm, are you sure you passed this -o 'Debug::Acquire::https=1' to apt-get ?
[02:04] <ldiebold> I believe so... I copy pasted this "sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::https=1' update 2>&1 > /tmp/log; echo $? ; cat /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[02:04] <ldiebold> will try againi
[02:05] <tomreyn> ldiebold: oh it's my fault, the command line was wrong
[02:05] <tomreyn> ldiebold: sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::https=1' update > /tmp/log 2>&1; echo $? ; cat /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:09] <tomreyn> ldiebold: is this, by chance, a VM running under a windows host with a virus scanner or internet security suite installed?
[02:14] <ldiebold> 100https://termbin.com/gdjk
[02:14] <ldiebold> tomreyn not a vm, and I've never installed a virus scanner
[02:14] <tomreyn> ldiebold: hmm, can you double check that you ran the updated command line this time?
[02:15] <tomreyn> sudo apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::https=1' update > /tmp/log 2>&1; echo $? ; cat /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:15] <tomreyn> this one
[02:15] <tomreyn> because the output is the same as previously, but should not be.
[02:16] <ldiebold> I believe so, will run it again
[02:16] <ldiebold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/n3zY9YZtyr/
[02:17] <tomreyn> okay, weird, there's no debugging into printed from apt-transport-https
[02:18] <ldiebold> Yea I see what you mean
[02:20] <ldiebold> Oh, do I have two versions of apt-transport-https installed?
[02:20] <ldiebold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KZkN7v5wHw/
[02:20] <tomreyn> you have one installed, two available for installation
[02:21] <tomreyn> let's see this:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[02:21] <ldiebold> https://termbin.com/wu4e
[02:22] <tomreyn> okay, a standard 20.04 LTS
[02:22] <ldiebold> I upgraded to 20 from 18
[02:22] <ldiebold> Though from memory, this was a problem back when I was using 18
[02:23] <tomreyn> how about this:  sudo apt install apt-forktracer; apt-forktracer > /tmp/apt  2>&1 ; cat /tmp/apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:23] <ldiebold> https://termbin.com/d9hx
[02:23] <tomreyn> i am guessing that you are referring to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
[02:24] <tomreyn> oh my
[02:24] <ldiebold> That sounds bad
[02:24] <ldiebold> php all over the place X)
[02:24] <tomreyn> it's just 'dirty', not really bad
[02:25] <ldiebold> Yea, I've been developing with laravel on this laptop a while and am still learning how to clean up after myself on linux '=D
[02:26] <tomreyn> curl https://termbin.com/d9hx | grep -vF '[' | sort      then look through the list of these packages which you have installed without a respective apt repository.
[02:26] <tomreyn> those you don't recognize or know you should   apt purge PACKAGENAME
[02:27] <tomreyn> but watch out for the prompts given by apt, i.e. which other packages may be removed then
[02:29] <tomreyn> when i say "installed without a respective apt repository" then these debian packages will never get security or bug fix updates unless you have some other mechanism to get them (you probably don't). most of them should probably not be installed like this.
[02:29] <ldiebold> Ahh I see. doing some clean up now
[02:30] <ldiebold> Thanks for the tip!
[02:30] <tomreyn> you have two different versions of libssl installed, this might be the cause of the apt errors
[02:30] <tomreyn> when you're done with all of this, you may want to    sudo apt purge apt-forktracer    to clean up again.
[02:33] <tomreyn> you should also inspect the packages returned by     curl -q https://termbin.com/d9hx | grep -F '[' | sort    where    (the version number in parantheses)     is higher than     [all of the version numbers given in square brackets].
[02:33] <ldiebold> Okay, will do that next
[02:36] <tomreyn> these packages are installed on a higher package verison than any of your configured apt repositories provide, meaning you're not getting bug and security fixes for these either, and should either configure an apt repository providing these package *versions* in a way that is compatible to your 'focal' ubuntu release. or downgrade them to the version provided in your configured apt repositories (a version given in square brackets).
[02:37] <tomreyn> to downgrade installed package "mypackage", version 456, to version 123, as provided by one of the configured apt repositories, run:  sudo apt install mypackage=123
[02:38] <tomreyn> ldiebold: and do yourself a favour and install a proper irc client, usch as hexchat or weechat or irssi, the web interface is terrible.
[02:38] <tomreyn> with this said, good luck, i'm out.
[02:39] <ldiebold> Will do, and thankyou so much for all your help!
[02:40] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[02:41] <tomreyn> i hope that purging libssl1.0.0 will make apt work properly.
[02:41] <ldiebold> finger crossed! Nearly there
[02:46] <tomreyn> one last note: you should be pulling the focal-security apt repository from security.ubuntu.com, not au.archive.ubuntu.com, because only the former is guaranteed to provide important security patches in time.
[02:55] <ldiebold> (y)
[04:38] <neverblue> hi guys, trying to repair something broken in my repos: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61991931/how-to-install-bitcoind-on-ubuntu-20
[04:39] <neverblue> someone outlined how they repair it, but I am not sure what the sentence means: " i go to the bitcoin folder and move the files to /usr/local/bin"
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | neverblue
[04:40] <neverblue> thanks lotuspsychje. Not really what I was looking for, though
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> neverblue: we dont really support external ppa's, if its the ppa itself broken or 404 you best contact the maintainer
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> neverblue: we can only advice to keep the ubuntu system as vanilla possible and howto repair without external ppa's
[04:42] <neverblue> well, I am not asking you to support them, I am trying to clarify what they are attempting to do with that sentence. As they repaired it by moving the folder (I believe is the extracted folder) into /usr/local/bin. But this on my system does not contain folders, only file
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> neverblue: that user seems to unpack his downloaded bitcoind tar, then suggests to move it into the dir before launch
[04:45] <neverblue> but that folder should contain scripts usually? not folders ?
[04:48] <neverblue> ok, thanks for the replies, ill try elsewhere. Appreciate your time!
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> neverblue: not sure, i did not check the insides of the tar
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> neverblue: alternate, you can try the bitcoin-core snap if you like
[04:50] <neverblue> ok, thanks for the advice
[04:58] <neverblue> ok,I tried to clear the ppa, but it continues to fail at that same point: sudo ppa-purge ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
[04:59] <neverblue> the repor ' ' does not have a release file
[07:33] <chukko> hi all-is it possible to find out the date of a webpage(im reading a page and i would like to use it in an essay etc and need to know when it was published or altered last) how would i accomplish this with cli or gui on linux
[07:57] <chikkoroll> hello
[07:59] <chikkoroll> i need to know the date of webpage timestamp and if possible the date of publication; can terminal do this or looking at the header
[08:01] <EriC^^> chikkoroll: maybe you could use something like the web archive to find that out
[08:02] <EriC^^> see when it first came into existence https://archive.org/web/
[08:03] <EriC^^> chikkoroll: if you want to see the headers you could do 'wget -S http://website"
[08:06] <chikkoroll> thanks EriC^^ if i used the later method i would get timestamps of alteration to the page (server post date) yes? sorry about my lack of knowledge
[08:06] <chikkoroll> or would i only get header information(header was a guess on my part-hoping to obtain publication date)
[08:09] <chikkoroll> Im reading/learning (the basics) about networking atm, but im green as and it mentions headers relating to transport of packets on over the Internet; i actually dont know if headers would help me find the information i want re age of data on page.
[08:11] <xtao> one of the headers is Last-Modified which *might* tell you when it was last changed, but only really if it's a static page (html). if it's a dynamic page like php/perl/python etc. then it *might* be correct but good chance it isn't
[08:12] <xtao> even with a static page you can't trust that it's correct. it could just be the time when someone copied the file to another directory rather than actually modified it
[08:15] <chikkoroll> thank you all very much
[08:16] <xtao> it wouldn't no
[08:17] <xtao> the only way to know for sure is archive.org or asking the author of the website
[08:18] <chikkoroll> xtao, EriC^^ if either of you wanted to use information you found online in an essay, how would you go about finding out the date it first appeared online and the specifics time date?
[08:19] <chikkoroll> still archive.org/publisher?
[08:19] <chikkoroll> o and google
[09:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey! I have a i7 10750H cpu paired with nvidia 1650. The nvidia graphics drivers are installed fine. But iGPU isn't working correctly. I can't change brightness. on doing a inxi -G it shows llvmpip as the rendered instead of intel UHD graphics. Any help would be appreciated
[09:38] <Ascavasaion> Hello there.  I am trying to use the network manager tool that comes with Lubuntu 19.  When I used to open it it used to open a text based setup which was fine.  Now when I try it just gives me a terminal screen with nothing in it.  Could someone please tell me how to fix that, or access it via command line please?  I presume the basics are the same for Ubuntu and Lubuntu.
[09:56] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: "Lubuntu 19" does not exist. Both Lubuntu 19.04 and 19.10 are end of life.
[09:56] <tomreyn> The_LoudSpeaker: i think llvmpipe is the expected 3d renderer for intel integrated graphics.
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> i'm still having this bug haunting me across several ubuntu releases, on this clevo laptop bug #1807818 the problem is i cant really try answer #6 as it only occurs 1 time per month or so
[11:58] <Doc-Saintly> Is there a GUI tool available for creating xkb mappings? I want them to by system wide so the keyboard shortcut tool won't work.
[12:02] <Tuor> Tomreyn thanks
[12:04] <Ascavasaion> tomreyn: thank you... will download 20 right now.
[12:04] <Ascavasaion> 20.04.1 :-)
[12:53] <xbfrog> i have a game bzflag that was working fine then, a couple of updates later? it went wonkers. started flashing on screen and no control, had to reboot or logoff to stop the flashing
[12:55] <xbfrog> what a shame, perfectly fine working game went south
[12:55] <xbfrog> uninstall, and reinstall does not fix it
[12:56] <CobyPaste> Hey, does someone has problems reaching the Ubuntu keyserver from AWS instances?
[12:56] <tomreyn> CobyPaste: if it passes through a centurylink transit, that'd be why.
[12:57] <CobyPaste> Do they have problems? We're getting timeouts and cant even curl the keyserver.
[12:59] <tomreyn> try    nc -zv <IP_ADDRESS> 11371    and     nc -zv <IP_ADDRESS> 11371
[12:59] <CobyPaste> I'll try, thanks
[13:00] <tomreyn> it should say connection succeeded and quit both times, if it doesn't, check the traceroute (or use mtr)
[13:00] <CobyPaste> Well, it seems to work again. I can also curl the keyserver
[13:01] <CobyPaste> Thanks for your help guys, really appreciated
[13:01] <rdelfin> aaaah is it centurylink that's causing today's outages?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:08] <luna_> hi
[13:11] <Tuor> In the server installer, it is possible to create an encrypted Volume Group with Physical Devices in multiple disks. But then the system doesn't boot...
[13:14] <tomreyn> Tuor: file a bug against it then
[13:15] <tomreyn> Tuor: the installer is called subiquity, block device setup is carried out by curtin.
[13:16] <tomreyn> make sure you're using the latest point release installer, e.g. 20.04.*1* for 20.04 LTS.
[13:16] <tomreyn> see also #ubuntu-server
[13:23] <Tuor> I'm using the latest installer.
[13:24] <Tuor> I'll also see in #ubuntu-server.
[13:24] <tomreyn> there's also an option to live upgrade the installer
[13:57] <Kow> note before you ask for help about your internet: Centurylink (major telecom company based in USA) is having all sorts of problems this morning, and they support critical internet routing infrastructure. So if you are in North America or Europe and are experiencing internet issues - Ubuntu is not the problem. I guess that could be bad news because this means there is nothing you can do about it.
[13:59] <jymmmm> Is anyone having issue running software updates this morning?
[14:00] <jeremy31> jymmmm: it might be centurylink issues
[14:00] <jymmmm> jeremy31: centrylink???
[14:01] <jeremy31> Something isn't quite right with the internet today
[14:02] <jymmmm> ah ok, at least it's not just me, had my modem replaced the other day, and things have been wonky ever since.
[14:03] <jeremy31> jymmmm: Try switching mirrors and see if it works
[14:04] <truexfan81> are the repositories down? apt can't connect to any of them, ppas are working correctly tho
[14:05] <guiverc> jymmmm, no issues here; but I'm in AU & likely opposite end of world
[14:06] <truexfan81> yeah i'm in the states
[14:06] <jymmmm> gul ty, I think I'm going to reboot, brb
[14:06] <truexfan81> i did an apt update hoping it would change mirrors, but nope just filled the screen with errors and warnings
[14:07] <truexfan81> someone on discord just told me that 50% of the internet is down at the moment
[14:07] <jeremy31> truexfan81: you have to change the mirror yourself
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Canadian mirrors/repos seem fine so far, upgraded a few packages this morning
[14:08] <jeremy31> irccloud has had issues all morning
[14:09] <truexfan81> i think i'll wait for the insternet routers to fix themselves
[14:09] <truexfan81> internet*
[14:13] <jymmmm> Hmmm, after reboot still having trouble updating a ppa so far
[14:13] <truexfan81> half the internet is down due to a major backbone outtage
[14:16] <jymmmm> Ok, changed from "US server" to "Main Server" and seems to be working now
[14:17] <jymmmm> "Software is up to date" YAY
[14:19] <jymmmm> truexfan81: outtage where?
[14:22] <qdb> hello . autologin worked, but after some restarts, stopped . enabling no password to login in user settings helped a little:there is only submit button instead of password field now. how to fix it? xubuntu 20.04, all updates installed
[14:32] <Intelo> My recording is very low in voice. My behringer um2 has 75% gain (more makes a hiss sound), my obs studio has a 6db limit. My pavucontrol shows 100% input audio limit. Everything else is default.  What am I doing wrong here?
[14:32] <Intelo> mic; XM8500 Dynamic mic
[14:44] <Intelo> driver issue?
[14:57] <qdb> i asked it in https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/142
[15:03] <budRich> hello ubuntu people. I am using ubuntu from a liveCD environment at the moment. I think i have bricked my hard drive..
[15:04] <budRich> i can see the sata controller when doing lspci, but i cant access the drive at all.
[15:04] <Intelo> what audio drivers I need for um2 iinterface?
[15:04] <budRich> actually i cant even boot when the drive is plugged in, so i plugged it in while on the "Boot menu" (pre grub)
[15:05] <oerheks> budRich, what hardware specs? this sounds like an UEFI machine, disable fastboot ( not secure boot) and see !uefi manual
[15:05] <oerheks> !uefi
[15:05] <oerheks> ' i cant even boot when the drive is plugged in" ... installing on an  external disk?
[15:06] <budRich> its a Dell latitude E7240, yes its UEFI mode now, i will check if i got a fast boot option, but i don't think so..
[15:06] <budRich> its a msata "internal" ssd
[15:06] <budRich> i think i bricked it trying to install openBSD on it earlier...
[15:07] <budRich> i just got this laptop.
[15:07] <oerheks> oh, just start the disks utilit, and reformat
[15:07] <budRich> disks utilit? is that included on this ISO (its the "default" ubuntu iso)?
[15:08] <budRich> when the disk is plugged in i cant even get into bios or boot menu, it gets stuck in a "boot loop". i have tried resetting, updating bios and cmos battery replugging etc..
[15:10] <oerheks> hmm that sounds serious.
[15:10] <oerheks> if you cannot boot with it inserted, seek support from the vendor?
[15:11] <budRich> yeah, but its out of warranty, i think it is "just" the ssd, and i can get a new one.
[15:12] <budRich> there is this msata wwan card installed and it is possible to replace that with a extra ssd, i tried plugging the disk in that slot and got the same results.
[15:14] <budRich> tomorrow i think i can "borrow" someones msata ssd or maybe plug my broken card in someone else computer and see if i can format it. i need the computer tomorrow, but i will just use this ubuntu live environment.
[15:14] <Intelo> Thats the loudest sound I can get with 78% gain on interface, 2 inch face distance from mic, 150% recording and pavucontrol volume, -6db obs mic gain https://youtu.be/f3QpO6VLv6Q
[15:15] <budRich> I have to say the ubuntu live environment is really nice, i have been on Arch for years, but once i get everything working i might hop to ubuntu.
[15:17] <Riku> just put ubuntu on my windows tablet, everything works great, but is there any way I can change settings for the touch keyboard?
[15:17] <Riku> it's a condensed layout that's not making use of my screen well
[15:17] <Riku> I used the full layout on windows 10
[15:19] <Riku> I have symbols and numbers in my password and it's super annoying to have to change the keyboard page constantly
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> Riku: a nice tool to control tweaks on your system is dconf-editor, maybe some settings there
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> Riku: alternate you can also try unity desktop on your tablet, they also have nice touch/tablet support
[15:33] <Riku> I thought unity was EOL
[15:33] <Riku> using the custom gnome on 20.04
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> Riku: unity is community supported and still installable in the repos
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop | Riku
[15:35] <oerheks> unity and mir are not dead, jim
[16:57] <kinghat> you can move multiple dirs at once with the mv command, no? so it will just assume the last dir passed would be the destination?
[17:03] <kinghat> looks like as many source locations as you like and then the -t flag to denote the target/destination.
[17:11] <wsxws> hi there
[17:14] <wsxws> im running ubuntu 20.04 on a webserver. i also run apache2 and have some vhosts with reverse proxy functon. when i redirect pages to others running on 443 they all work but when i try to reach a destination lissing on some other port that 443 it cant connect. (on other werbservers all of this redireckts work fine) i already removed apparor from the system. is there anything else what might
[17:14] <wsxws> block that connections ?
[17:17] <ashwin2882> I want to customize the date format in my ubuntu 20.04 desktop top bar. I googled and hit upon only outdated apps information. I tried gsetting it gave some but not all customization i wanted like showing seconds and day of the week. Now i want year also to appear. Can some one suggest good way to customiza the date format to my liking ?
[17:27] <Intelo> Thats the loudest sound I can get with 78% gain on interface, 2 inch face distance from mic, 150% recording and pavucontrol volume, -6db obs mic gain https://youtu.be/f3QpO6VLv6Q
[17:27] <Intelo> driver issue?
[17:54] <vlm> in 18.04 when is /tmp folder cleared? Before shutdown or upon boot?
[18:04] <EriC^^> vlm: upon boot
[18:08] <vlm> Thanks
[18:26] <craigbass76> Anyone using Sonicwall's nexExtender app? There are windows machines that can VPN in fine. When I run the client, it LOOKS like I'm in, but I can't hit any boxes on the LAN at work. Probably a Sonicwall support question, but I thought I'd see if anyone in here had run into it.
[18:28] <oerheks> craigbass76, url? ( for the ubuntu client)
[18:29] <tatertots> craigbass76: sorry..don't use their netextender
[18:29] <tatertots> craigbass76: sorry..i don't use their netextender
[18:30] <tatertots> craigbass76: what does traceroute show when connected?
[18:34] <gebbione> hi does anyone use darknet/yolo here?  https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/ i am trying to use a docker image based on darknet but it is not giving me a meaningful output
[18:35] <oerheks> gebbione, interesting, but such docker images are not supported here.
[18:37] <gebbione> oerheks, i guessed this but there isnt really a channel specific for this. Even inside #docker it would be difficult to find someone as the problem is most likely due to the usage i make of it or the binary configuration/image so i am just asking around. If i run darknet on my machine it returns, with the image just does not show the output
[18:44] <Dragosiku> hi all
[18:44] <Dragosiku> anyone can help me ?
[18:44] <EriC^^> !ask|  Dragosiku
[18:44] <oerheks> hi Dragosiku, just ask, wait and see
[18:45] <oerheks> and don't crosspost, thanks
[18:46] <Dragosiku> i bought a VPS from OVH provider, and i have ubuntu 20 on him, now i have multiple domain names and i need to setup dns forward and setup from admin pannel from ovh and the sendmail server and webmail server on in, can be helped ?:D
[18:46]  * oerheks walks away
[18:49] <pavlos> Dragosiku: here's an OVH tutorial ... https://docs.ovh.com/gb/en/vps/getting-started-vps/
[18:52] <Dragosiku> lol:D thanks , im over that, my vps is up and running, all domains names open and apache server running, now i need a little bit advice to understand MX TXT and other things from DNS forward system from OVH pannel. if i print scree the setups can you help me ?
[19:08] <wsxws> im running ubuntu 20.04 on a webserver. i also run apache2 and have some vhosts with reverse proxy functon. when i redirect pages to others running on 443 they all work but when i try to reach a destination lissing on some other port that 443 it cant connect. (on other werbservers all of this redireckts work fine) i already removed apparor from the system. is there anything else what might
[19:08] <wsxws> block that connections ?
[19:13] <tatertots> wsxws: have you checked the ports ?
[19:13] <tatertots> wsxws: have you then compared that to the other servers you mention?
[19:14] <tatertots> wsxws: "i have disabled apparmor" is not checking the ports btw
[19:24] <wsxws> tatertots https://hastebin.com/amasopawid.apache
[19:24] <wsxws> exact the same configs work fine on two other webservers
[19:27] <wsxws> any idea what could block that connection ?
[19:27] <wsxws> i also cleard iptables as show there http://wiki.loovsys.eu/index.php/Clear_all_iptable_rules_and_allow_everything
[19:42] <tatertots> wsxws: make a image of the working config and restore the image to the server with the issue
[19:46] <tatertots> wsxws: do you have access to the systems right now?
[19:54] <wsxws> i have access to to this server atm
[19:55] <wsxws> i can not make any image, because they are vservers at different hosters
[19:55] <wsxws> the apache-configs are copies of the working ones
[19:56] <wsxws> but it all does nocht explain, why the proxy does nit work just beauce of the differnet ports
[19:56] <wsxws> the target sites themself work fine
[20:00] <tatertots> wsxws: the ports "other" than 443, you don't mention any technical details there, do you not know the specific port numbers?
[20:03] <wsxws> its in pastebin
[20:03] <wsxws> port 23232
[20:03] <wsxws> (but 32323 does not work either)
[20:06] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[20:17] <tatertots> wsxws: do you have access to a working config right now also?
[20:18] <wsxws> yes
[20:20] <BlueShark> Hi, my browser seems to be behaving weirdly on Ubuntu. This is happening on chrome. Seems totally weird, have no idea what's happening here - https://imgur.com/a/8xYmYj9 - anyone got a clue?
[20:21] <wsxws> but the problem is solved. my provider made some changes the network and the proxy works fine now
[20:21] <tatertots> wsxws: good
[20:21] <wsxws> thanks for your time though
[20:22] <wsxws> hand ;)
[20:30] <Intelo> How do I delete obs settings. I do not see a .obs dir in home
[20:39] <pnwise> Any idea why python is not linked to python3 in 20.04?
[20:45] <rfm> pnwise, you can install python-is-python3 if you want that, but it's incompatible with some things (like virtualbox) that require python-is-python2
[20:46] <rfm> pnwise, I just aliased python to python3 in .bashrc and I
[20:46] <rfm> m happy
[20:47] <pnwise> Yes I know, but just the other day I had shuttle fail on me because it looks for /usr/bin/python
[20:48] <pnwise> I can link them
[20:48] <dynamite_bud> hey I am using ubuntu 18 LTS and i installed 2 versions of python3 python3.6 and python3.7
[20:48] <pnwise> Then again if python is reserved for python 2, why isn't there package python?
[20:48] <pnwise> root@panel:~# apt show python
[20:48] <pnwise> Package: python
[20:48] <pnwise> State: not a real package (virtual)
[20:48] <pnwise> N: Can't select candidate version from package python as it has no candidate
[20:48] <pnwise> N: Can't select versions from package 'python' as it is purely virtual
[20:48] <pnwise> N: No packages found
[20:50] <pnwise> These things does not make sense to me.
[20:51] <rfm> pnwise, because python isn't reserved for python2, there is either python-is-python2 or python-is-python3, and you install whichever one makes your particular set of desired software work.  for you that seems to be "shuttle" (whatever that is) that needs python-is-python3 and for me it's virtualbox which needs python-is-python2...
[20:57] <pnwise> Well it is not me, it is programs that expect to have some interpreter for python
[20:57] <pnwise> First time hearing about these packages python-is-python3
[20:58] <pnwise> What you do if you need both?
[20:59] <rfm> pnwise, both what?  you can certainly have both python2 and python3 installed, but /usr/bin/python has to be one or the other
[21:03] <pnwise> Why not have both installed, have python default to 3(or 2) and leave people change them with update-alternatives?
[21:03] <pnwise> How are people supposed to know about these packages
[21:03] <pnwise> Anyway, thanks for the help
[21:04] <xtao> 2 shouldn't be installed at all any longer. it's way past end of life
[21:04] <pnwise> Yeah I don't care about it either
[21:04] <pnwise> but that is just me
[21:05] <gry> pnwise: "I had shuttle fail on me because it looks for /usr/bin/python" -- it is not packaged correctly. it should have python or python3 as dependency, and know the correct binary name
[21:05] <Bashing-om> pnwise: I have edited my scripts from python to python3.
[21:08] <Intelo> How do I delete obs settings. I do not see a .obs dir in home
[21:08] <uc50ic4more> Does anyone know how Canonical intends to roll out Thunderbird 78.x? There appears to be no elegant upgrade path from 68.x but 78.x will have to find a place in the repos at some point, no?
[21:09] <HarryGuerrilla> Intelo: .config/obs-studio
[22:01] <Intelo> thx
[22:01] <Intelo> HarryGuerrilla:
[22:04] <JustAFlerkin> have an odd situation in ubuntu 20.04 running KVM where a guest ubuntu instance get's sideways when hotpluging a new eth interface. hard reboot does not clear the issue.  https://pastebin.com/PsTZVyQR
[22:05] <JustAFlerkin> eth2 get's renamed to ens9 then 5 seconds later get's renamed back to eth2 and it disapears from ip link
[22:19] <mahir256> !info sysvinit-utils | mahir256
[23:40] <holocron> hey #ubuntu, I have a multipath installation (Bionic) here with LVM. I failed to update initrd after adding some new volumes and now I'm only able to boot into an emergency shell. I know I need to recreate the initrd and I thought I could do this by booting into repair mode from the installation media. I do see all my disks in the repair mode, but unfortunately I cannot get the root partition to mount as it's LV is on a partition
[23:40] <holocron> who's disk is being managed by mpath :sweat: So `vgscan` doesn't see anything. I altered the LVM config option to get lvm to scan multipath devices - and voila, now I can see my LVs.. However, I cannot activate any VGs because ... the PVs are seen on multiple disks :D Any suggsetions here? I was thinking of trying the 20.04 install media
[23:46] <hypergibbon> Hi - I'm having some wifi issues. My 4Ghz wifi works perfectly, except it is limited to 100Mb/s with my router. My 5Gz wifi connection can reach close to 800Mb/s, but it drops after a minute or two. How can I figure out how to debut what's going on?
[23:48] <hypergibbon> *debug
[23:55] <bostongeek36> im using a raspberry pi 3b+ to run ubuntu 20.04
[23:55] <bostongeek36> after about 5-10 mins it freezes
[23:55] <bostongeek36> then about 5 mins later it comes back
[23:55] <bostongeek36> but then freezes again


[14:55] <manusheel> dipankar: Hi Dipankar.
[14:55] <manusheel> dipankar: Kindly go through the bug, and let me know if we have any issues.
[14:56] <manusheel> dipankar: Neat work on yesterday's enhancement. Keep it up.
[14:57] <dipankar> manusheel, thanks sir. Working on it
[14:57] <manusheel> dipankar: Great.
[15:08] <dipankar> manusheel, I am not getting the bug.
[15:09] <dipankar> I don't think this is a bug at all


[09:34] <DJones> I've just hilighted the spam/botnet thats just hit #u to gheraint via pm a s aheads up in case they hit other freenode channels
[09:44] <DJones> History of it as far as I can see http://pastebin.com/9V6a2c1i
[14:19] <Pici> odd
[14:20] <ikonia> you know he's going to be a problem
[14:21] <ikonia> imghost: hello
[14:22] <imghost> can you please tell me a procedure to file a bug please its a request, i did ask in ubuntu but seems like i was ignored
[14:22] <ikonia> !bug | imghost
[14:23] <imghost> ikonia, thankyou :), one more question can i ask them to release pwm-cabable sensor modules for hp-pavilion?
[14:24] <ikonia> you can make a request, but there is no promise it will happen
[14:24] <imghost> ikonia, ok, exit
[14:25] <ikonia> hello Mark_de_J
[14:25] <Mark_de_J> Hi.
[14:25] <ikonia> how can we help you ?
[14:26] <Mark_de_J> I can talk not @ Ubuntu?
[14:26] <Mark_de_J> <Mark_de_J> hey
[14:26] <Mark_de_J> * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel
[14:26] <ikonia> Mark_de_J: correct, as you just flooded the channel
[14:26] <ikonia> I'll remove mute for you shortly
[14:26] <Mark_de_J> Sorry. :P
[14:26] <Mark_de_J> Didnt know
[14:27] <Mark_de_J> :'(
[14:27] <ikonia> I've removed the mute for you now
[14:27] <ikonia> Mark_de_J: if you don't need anything else, can you please /part this channel
[14:27] <Mark_de_J> Ok, thanks.
[14:27] <Mark_de_J> Bye!
[14:51] <Pici> chrome is offtopic?
[14:52] <ikonia> don't see why if you're trying to get it working on ubuntu
[14:53] <DJones> Isn't Chrome from a ppa though, therefore, strictly people could argue that its offtopic in the same way as !ppa points out that they're unsupported
[14:54] <ikonia> if it's from a ppa - don't support it, but no harm in saying it's available
[14:54] <DJones> Thats probably more what the comment was aimed at
[14:55] <LjL> maybe people could argue that, but just declaring it is offtopic? seriously, this "ppas are bad and shouldn't be used by anyone ever" thing has never really been agreed upon by even a majority of us, i think
[14:56] <LjL> i, for one, find that app-store mentality nonsense
[14:56] <ikonia> I find pretty much anything outside the main repos nonsense at the moment
[14:56] <ikonia> (from ubuntu and people building for ubuntu)
[14:57] <LjL> right, so only use what we decide to put in, even mentioning something else is unacceptable
[14:57] <LjL> way to go
[14:57] <Pici> I have no problem suggesting PPAs as long as the user is aware that we can't really provide support after the install is doe.
[14:57] <Pici> *done
[14:57] <ikonia> LjL: I didn't say that at all
[14:57] <ikonia> I often make people aware of PPA's but recommend against using it
[14:58] <LjL> well phunyguy basically did, and you seem to be saying anything not in the repos is nonsense, and i'm pretty sure that's not the case because a lot of software that i use is quite certainly not available in the repositories
[14:58] <ikonia> "I" find it
[15:02] <phunyguy> May I interject?
[15:02] <ikonia> sorry phunyguy didn't see you there,
[15:02] <ikonia> wasn't trying to speak fro you
[15:02] <phunyguy> (I got highlighted.. ;) )
[15:03] <phunyguy> I apologize if I used a poor choice of words.  My stance is, why recommend something if the result of it will be an unsupported install?
[15:06] <IdleOne> I think what we need start doing more is to give people the help they need, but also let them know that the channel may not be able to help them later. recommending Chrome is not a bad thing (I use it, works well). Just make sure you tell me that I won't be able to get more help later in #ubuntu.
[15:06] <Pici> Because thats what the users want? And its not like we forbid support the moment that we learn that someone has an unrelated ppa installed.
[15:07] <phunyguy> ok.  I will file that nugget away.
[15:07]  * phunyguy goes back to lurk mode.
[15:08] <IdleOne> It might take a little longer to explain to the user, but what is the rush anyway? not like we get paid per answer. Might as well take our time and explain stuff clearly :)
[16:13] <Pici> bazhang: ping
[16:29] <bazhang> Pici, hi
[16:48] <Pici> bazhang: Do you know why #ubuntu-ru is +r ?
[16:48] <bazhang> no idea Pici
[16:48] <Pici> oh
[16:49] <ikonia> maybe because they get a lot of trouble from hit and run guys if #ubuntu is anything to go by
[16:52] <Pici> bazhang: Well.. we were talking about it in -irc, and suggested that maybe they setup a forward to a channel that explains that they need to register.
[16:52] <Pici> Its very difficult to tell people to join #ubuntu-ru if we can't communicate and we need to show them how to register.
[16:52] <Myrtti> +r has been there since time immemorial
[16:52] <ikonia> could we not just update our factoid
[16:53] <ikonia> make it clear they need to register, or point them at a webpage explaining it rather than setting up another channel
[16:53] <Pici> Myrtti: oh.
[16:53] <Myrtti> ie. I remember having this discussion many times
[16:54] <Myrtti> it's not a new development, it's been there for years.
[16:56] <IdleOne> ikonia: updating the factoid to include reg. instructions would only cause the user to issue another !factoid in #ubuntu (probably adding to his confusion?)
[16:56] <IdleOne> IMHO
[16:57] <Pici> Maybe a URL with instructions then?
[16:57] <Pici> in russian
[16:57] <IdleOne> that would be better yeah
[16:58] <IdleOne> maybe someone could translate/create the wiki at !register into russian?
[16:58] <IdleOne> !register


[04:52] <micahg> could I please get someone to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~micahg/+junk/transition-tracker into the transition tracker?  It adds a tracker to get rid of wxwidgets2.6
[08:34] <cjwatson> I've merged micahg's transition tracker branch above
[09:22] <Laney> i should merge ben from upstream at some point
[09:22] <Laney> think mehdi made some improvements
[10:32] <jamespage> doko__, skaet, component mismatches now looking much better
[10:32] <jamespage> doko__, I've raised and documented MIR requirements for junit4 + qdox and deps (for fop 1.0 once I land it) in bug 876413 and bug 876413
[10:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 876413 in xmlunit (Ubuntu) (and 15 other projects) "[MIR] xmlunit (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876413
[10:33] <jamespage> sorry - bug 877146
[10:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 877146 in testng (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "[MIR] junit4 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877146
[10:34] <doko__> jamespage, nice. and the -perl stuf will be gone next
[10:35] <jamespage> doko__, want me to look at the jython deps?
[10:35] <jamespage> I need to look at the new ones for mysql-connector as well
[10:36] <doko__> jamespage, sure, would be nice
[10:36] <jamespage> doko__, well I seem to be on a MIR run ATM so np
[10:39] <doko__> libmodule-build-perl
[10:39] <doko__> Depends: perl, libcpan-meta-perl (>= 2.110420), libextutils-cbuilder-perl (>= 0.2700) | perl (>= 5.11.2), libextutils-parsexs-perl (>= 2.210000) | perl (>= 5.11.2),
[10:40] <doko__> o libextutils-cbuilder-perl: libextutils-cbuilder-perl
[10:40] <doko__>    [Reverse-Depends: libmodule-build-perl]
[10:40] <doko__>  o libextutils-parsexs-perl: libextutils-parsexs-perl
[10:40] <doko__>    [Reverse-Depends: libmodule-build-perl]
[10:40] <doko__> cjwatson, ^^^ why do these show up now, the package didn't change from oneiric?
[10:47] <cjwatson> don't know, chase through germinate output?
[10:47] <cjwatson> perhaps something uninstallable on some architectures
[10:48] <cjwatson> ah, it's just armhf
[10:48] <cjwatson> let me take that out of c-m for now if it's being confusing
[10:49] <cjwatson> doko__: better now?
[10:52] <doko__> cjwatson, yes, thanks!
[11:25] <cjwatson> doko__: re -Werror=format-security, I wonder if we should continue to put it in the output of dpkg-buildflags but just not export it into the dpkg-buildpackage environment by default
[11:26] <cjwatson> I hadn't fully got my head around that distinction when we last talked about this
[11:28] <doko__> so we'll only catch errors catched by debian?
[11:29] <cjwatson> right
[11:29] <cjwatson> I don't know if it's the right thing to do, that's why I'm wondering :)
[11:30] <cjwatson> our intention in continuing to export dpkg-buildflags output by default was to generally keep things at at least the state they were in in oneiric
[11:31] <cjwatson> there is an argument that in order to fulfil that we could export only those flags that were exported in oneiric
[11:31] <doko__> it sounds a bit ugly, I would like to keep it the same for dpkg-buildflags and the environment. maybe we can revisit this when we know how much fails?
[11:31] <doko__> I see see some new ftbfs in main
[11:31] <doko__> but not that many
[11:34] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/713099/ - diff between exported flags
[11:35] <cjwatson> I appreciate that the security team would love it to have all the hardening flags enabled by default
[11:35] <cjwatson> but we'll see whether exporting them from dpkg-buildpackage is a bit much
[11:36] <cjwatson> that would affect third-party packages too
[11:38] <doko> the only problematic one is -Werror=format-security. can we live with this one until we have the first test rebuild?
[11:39] <cjwatson> yep
[11:56] <cjwatson> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/83181749/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.ziproxy_3.1.3-1build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz I don't like the look of this
[11:57] <cjwatson> ah, perl/amd64 built a bit quicker than perl/i386
[11:57]  * cjwatson gives a load of stuff back then
[12:25] <jdstrand> cjwatson, doko: so, I'm not the one to talk to about this (please talk to sbeattie), but a security feature we have over other distribtuions (that is in marketing materials iirc correctly) is that our default compiler will build 3rd party apps with hardening options
[12:26] <jdstrand> cjwatson, doko: that is not something we would want to lose I don't think. That said, I am not the one to discuss this with-- sbeattie has taken over this work from kees
[12:28] <doko> jdstrand, this is no regression within ubuntu, just extra stuff from debian.
[12:28] <jdstrand> ah
[12:29] <jdstrand> well, I know that Debian is starting to take up kees' work, but in a different manner. I'd rather not comment further because I would be approaching speculation :)
[12:29] <jdstrand> and I'm sure you know *way* more about it than I :)
[12:53] <cjwatson> jdstrand: "lose" - this has only been in Ubuntu for less than five days
[12:54] <cjwatson> in the particular form we're talking about
[12:54] <jdstrand> ack-- I just saw that and got panicky for a moment. I apologize (hardening options are understandably a big deal for our team)
[13:02] <cjwatson> understood, I certainly don't mean to regress from what's in oneiric
[13:02] <cjwatson> that would be (a) bad and (b) unnecessary :)
[15:49] <jamespage> doko, I think we can probably drop jython from main
[15:51] <doko> jamespage, your call, I'm fine with it, if it's just optional features.
[15:52] <jamespage> doko: well its used by two packages optionally - one of which already has it disabled because its broken
[15:52] <jamespage> (but its still kept the dep)
[16:04] <jamespage> doko: OK - going to go with dropping the last remaining optional use of jython
[16:05] <jamespage> can't find any reverse deps that use it and jython
[16:09] <jamespage> doko: MIR bug 878186 is ready for review if you have time
[16:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878186 in libslf4j-java (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[MIR] libslf4j-java (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878186
[16:10] <jamespage> managed to remove one extra dependency that was not required
[16:15]  * micahg wonders why his wxwidgets tracker is failing...
[16:17] <Laney> no semicolon after title?
[16:19] <Laney> we'll see, pushed
[16:22] <micahg> Laney: ah, probably it, thanks :)
[16:22] <micahg> Laney: is there a notes field?  I added the Debian wiki link in the title since I wasn't sure
[16:22] <Laney> not that i know of
[16:22] <Laney> we should get some kind of index
[16:37] <doko> jamespage, thanks, promoted
[16:37] <jamespage> doko: thanks
[18:44] <scott-work> cjwatson: we discuss with infinity about moving ubuntu studio to a live dvd weeks ago and you suggested talking to the "cd image team", is there a preferred way to contact them?
[18:45] <infinity> scott-work: We have no formal team contact, but you know most of us.
[18:45] <infinity> scott-work: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+members
[19:04] <scott-work> infinity, awesome!  thank you :)
[20:13] <scott-work> i'm not sure this is the proper forum for this question, but please point me in the right direction and i'll ask it there:
[20:13] <scott-work> as ubuntu studio project lead i want to get permission to push studio packages to the repositories
[20:13] <scott-work> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers#Ubuntu_Developers_.28from_delegated_teams.29
[20:14] <scott-work> should i follow the 'per package' route for permission or the 'delegated team' route?
[20:32] <infinity> If you're going to end up with a large package set and a team managing it, you'll probably want to go the team route.
[20:38] <micahg> scott-work: you probably want a package set as opposed to a delegated team unless you plan on a lot of applicants for Ubuntu Studio packages that you would like to be able to approve
[20:40] <micahg> scott-work: #ubuntu-devel is fine for membership questions
[20:40] <micahg> the DMB doesn't have its own channel, although, maybe that's not a bad idea...
[21:13] <scott-work> sorry, infinity and micahg, i was in a meeting at work
[21:14] <scott-work> infinity and micahg, i do not expect many people to have permissions to push studio packages to the repos, possibly only two for redundancy
[21:15] <micahg> scott-work: yeah, you just need upload rights for the ubuntustudio packageset then
[21:15] <micahg> scott-work: let's continue in #ubuntustudio-devel
[21:16] <Laney> yeah, there already is one


[20:27] <mup> Bug #1945216 changed: Nagios VM fails deployment with loading ephemeral <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945216>


[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[16:23] <pleia2> jose: we got access to the release calendar, so if you're bored later... :)
[16:23] <pleia2> or I can update it some time
[20:41] <jose> pleia2: I'll do it later on, on the phone calling Dell right now
[20:42] <pleia2> jose: no worries, whenever, it hasn't been maintained for over a year so there is no rush ;)
[20:42] <jose> cool :)
[20:44] <pleia2> someone on the -doc list noticed it was dead, which sent me into my quest to figure out whose it was
[20:44] <pleia2> reminds me, I shall follow up on that list