[00:01] <Unit193> Oh good, had hoped you weren't playing the IRC drinking game.
 mjbrancato, wow; looks like you could beat off a good sized mugger with that though...
[01:37] <bazhang> great support 'help'
[10:37] <maelknotreek> WHY YOU BAN ME FROM #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC
[10:37] <k1l_> maelknotreek: losse the caps. that is not helping in resolving a ban
[10:38] <k1l_> and trying to start a drama in #ubuntu is not helping, too
[10:40] <maelknotreek> k1l_: tonyyarusso banned me
[10:42] <k1l_> samfreenode/ maelknotreek you are on purpose ban evading. so leave the #ubuntu* channels asap if you ever want to resolve your ban again.
[10:42] <k1l_> we dont want user that evade bans to harass user in the #ubuntu channel and the community.
[10:42] <maelknotreek> wtf I am not ban evading
[10:42] <maelknotreek> wtf was I banned for to get banned for ban evading lmao
[10:44] <k1l_> samfreenode / maelknotreek you changed your nick and using webchats to evade bans and ignore lists. that behaviour is not acceptable.
[10:44] <maelknotreek> k1l_: wtf you keep saying I am ban evading, but I was never banned in the first place
[10:44] <k1l_> sure you were.
[10:44] <maelknotreek> k1l_:I change nicks because I don't have a registered one and I am using webchat and can't always remember the previous ones I used
[10:45] <maelknotreek> k1l_:That's like saying you're arrested for resisting arrest lmao
[10:45] <k1l_> 2015-07-14T13:35:03 *** Pici sets mode: +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>  << #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <k1l_> that was your ip while you already switched nicks and used the differen webchat.
[10:46] <ikonia> maelknotreek: lets make this simple
[10:46] <ikonia> are you samfreenode ?
[10:46] <ikonia> have you previously used that nick ?
[10:46] <maelknotreek> ikonia:yes
[10:46] <ikonia> ok - then you are no longer welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic using any nickname
[10:46] <k1l_> so dont play the innocent. you know what you did, we know what you did. so get out of the #ubuntu* channels we dont want that behaviour in our community.
[10:47] <maelknotreek> k1l_:what behaviour omg
[10:47] <ikonia> your behviour / channel use is not something we want in the channel
[10:47] <maelknotreek> ikonia:wtf
[10:47] <ikonia> maelknotreek: does that make it clear to you ?
[10:47] <maelknotreek> ikonia:no
[10:47] <k1l_> maelknotreek: for the logs: 2015-07-15T08:24:20 <rory> maelknotreek: Please would you stop coming back on IRC with different nicks/hosts to bypass my ignore list?
[10:47] <ikonia> what part is not clear ?
[10:47] <ikonia> you are not welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic any more
[10:48] <maelknotreek> ikonia:The "your behaviour / channel use" part
[10:48] <k1l_> maelknotreek: that behaviour! you are harassing other ubuntu community users. so you are not welcome anymore. please leave
[10:48] <ikonia> maelknotreek: I explained this to you in #ubuntu-offtopic before I banned you,
[10:48] <ikonia> maelknotreek: so now you know you're not welcome, please stop trying to join
[10:48] <maelknotreek> k1l_:wtf I am not harassing
[10:49] <k1l_> maelknotreek: you just proved you are. so please leave
[10:49] <ikonia> maelknotreek: ok - well, we disagree, either way you are no longer welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <maelknotreek> k1l_:wat
[10:49] <ikonia> maelknotreek: you're welcome to use #ubuntu for support purposes
[10:49] <ikonia> just so we are clear
[10:49] <maelknotreek> ikonia:I don't use Ubuntu I use Windoze 7
[10:49] <ikonia> great,
[10:49] <ikonia> then we are done here
[10:49] <k1l_> he started to harass rory in #ubuntu too and tried to make a drama.
[10:49] <ikonia> k1l_: we know the deal
[10:50] <ikonia> it's been explained he's not welcome, so now he knows
[10:51] <ikonia> maelknotreek: please /part this channel, now thats been clarified for you
[10:57] <maelknotreek> lol he's funny he has so many personal problems, some days we're best pals and some days he just ignores me
[11:11] <bazhang> maelknotreek, dont idle here, thanks
[15:50] <bazhang> FENNVILLE_TECH_S  NOT ANNOYING AT ALL
[23:44] <bazhang> pastebin needs a ten page tutorial
[23:45] <k1l> sometimes i think: everyone can upload a picture to facebook, but to upload a text seems like rocketscience
[23:45] <Unit193> They're thinking "This is a text medium, I'll just paste."
[23:45] <bazhang> perhaps if we had a like and like linked to votebot (out of the channel) that would sharpen the users senses
[23:46] <bazhang> err unlike
[23:46] <k1l> a karma bot :)
[23:46] <bazhang> yes!
[23:48] <Unit193> Kicks if below -3 ? :D
[23:48] <bazhang> wfm!
[23:49] <k1l> yeah


[10:17] <tomh-> hey anyone know what could be the cause of my native resolution not working?
[10:17] <\Ben> its the belkin f5d7050 ver 3000. - ralink
[10:17] <CheesyMonkey> tomh-, Not setup in xorg.conf?
[10:17] <tomh-> well i can select it
[10:17] <tomh-> but it messes my screen up
[10:17] <Kjellviz> anyone know why the update manager wants me to upgrade to .16 kernel, while apt-get doesent ?
[10:17] <\Ben> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28f5d7050%29 been following this one
[10:17] <tseo> hello everyone
[10:18] <tseo> i need some help
[10:18] <godlygeek> So, I accidentally managed to install Grub to both the mbr and to the linux partition - any safe way to remove one of them?  would 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda2 bs=512 count=1' break everything?  heh
[10:18] <LukeEkblad> oh, this happens wh[en ever i check for updates now:  unable to copy users Xuthrorization files.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[10:19] <\Ben> i removed network manager and installed wifi-radar also toryl__ .... but when it scans with that it just spams that it doesnt support scanning.
[10:19] <PriceChild> Kjellviz, ok
[10:19] <godlygeek> LukeEkblad: You should be able to do 'rm .Xauthority' from a terminal, then restart X - I can't guarantee that that will fix it, but it shouldn't hurt and might fix it.
[10:19] <toryl__> \Ben: one problem I had was the encryption method I was using.  If you are using anything but WEP turn it off for diagnostic purposes.
[10:20] <toryl__> \Ben: and even WEP, too, really.  Can you connect from the command line?
[10:20] <\Ben> no :s
[10:20] <\Ben> light flashes non stop on the nic
[10:20] <gejr> how do i find out which xorg-version im running?
[10:21] <kevinl--> dpkg -l | grep xorg
[10:21] <kevinl--> ?
[10:21] <x89x> please help me !
[10:21] <x89x>  i have three drives. 1 is NTFS. 1 FileSystem and the third is the FAT 32 which is lost !!
[10:21] <x89x> how do i get it back !
[10:21] <PurpZeY> Is there a way to do an unrar of a series of files to a specific directory via cli?
[10:21] <toryl__> \Ben: can you connect when you specify all the AP parameters--i.e. without scanning first?
[10:22] <genii> kevinl--: You are looking for xserver-xorg package to install?
[10:22] <tseo> i got a laptop with vista and i want to install Ubuntu but when the installation starts and reaches the partition manager it just stops on "scanning drives"
[10:22] <Jordan_U> x89x, How is it "lost"?
[10:22] <x89x> jordan: i unmounted it
[10:22] <\Ben> toryl__, i have tried with the command line and editing the interface file
[10:22] <x89x> using 1 command
[10:22] <\Ben> but when i then do iwconfig is doesnt find my ssid info
[10:22] <gejr> thanks kevinl-- :)
[10:22] <godlygeek> x99x: 1 FileSystem?  What do you mean by 'FileSystem'?
[10:22] <LukeEkbla1> I cant search for updates now.   Every time i try, it says: unable to copy Xusers athoritation files
[10:22] <Jordan_U> x89x, So you just need to re mount it?
[10:22] <Littlegator> ompaul, I had to reboot again but now I'm going to take a shower, so I'll get back to you in 20...
[10:22] <x89x> sudo umount /media/hda1
[10:22] <x89x> sudo mv /media/hda1 /media/newname
[10:22] <x89x> i used this command
[10:23] <ompaul> Littlegator, if I am around ya
[10:23] <toryl__> \Ben: so you specify an SSID and then it doesn't show up when you do iwconfig?
[10:23] <x89x> jordan_U: yes. i want it back
[10:23] <genii> kevinl--: nvm I see now it was for gejr
[10:23] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: cd /to/the/dir/you/want/to/extract/to; cp /dirwith/rar/files/*.rar .; for file in *.rar; do rar x $file; done
[10:23] <Jordan_U> x89x, So to mount it do: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/newname
[10:23] <ana> Hi is there an easy way to switch which drive GRUB is on?
[10:23] <zOrK> any mp3 player for terminals? (other besides mpg123)
[10:24] <khin> hi my clock is consistently messed up in ubuntu. its always four hours too early. i set my time zone to America/New York and deselected Synchronize with Internet Servers
[10:24] <PriceChild> !fixgrub | ana
[10:24] <ubotu> ana: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:24] <zOrK> ?? ntp
[10:24] <\Ben> nope thats right - i have specified all the network info in the interface file, down and up the rausb0 again then iwconfig and its changed the channel to 11, but left mode as auto - even when i speficied managed.
[10:24] <khin> im using dapper
[10:24] <Jordan_U> x89x, If you want to have it mount automatically at boot edit your /etc/fstab
[10:24] <\Ben> and the ESSID says OFF/ANY
[10:24] <live> no.org
[10:24] <\Ben> even tho its specified in the interface file
[10:24] <godlygeek> zOrK: good old mplayer
[10:24] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I got the first bit, what's that about file in *.rar; do rar $file; ?
[10:25] <toryl__> \Ben: that happened to me too.  Let me see if I can find the info that helped me.
[10:25] <ChrisF_> I just installed Apache2, PHP and MySQL so I could use this machine as a little webserver to develop on.  However, my /var/www folder is only accessible as root so how can I design sites on this machine without having to use sudo every time I want to create a new file or folder?
[10:25] <gejr> it says i'm running Xorg version 7.2-0ubuntu
[10:25] <ana> thanks!
[10:25] <\Ben> thanks toryl__, much appreciated.
[10:25] <LukeEkbla1> somebody pleas help...  I cant search for updates now.   Every time i try, it says: unable to copy Xusers athoritation files
[10:25] <gejr> shouldn't it be Xorg version R7.3 ?
[10:25] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: that is what a shell script looks like when it's written inline.  :)
[10:26] <Jordan_U> gejr, 7.3 won't come until Gutsty
[10:26] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Ok, but how do I make it proper?
[10:26] <mgmedel> hello there, how can  I find out my wireless card model and manufacturer, I have tried lspci and lshw but no luck at all, with lshw I just get wireless interface and no more details
[10:26] <Jordan_U> gejr, * Gutsy
[10:26] <jklewis> My splash screen keeps dumping after my encrypted partition doesn't pass fsck.  What is the best solution to solve this?
[10:26] <specialcharacter> Hi all. I wonder if someone could help me out with apache2?
[10:26] <russe11> !ask > specialcharacter
[10:26] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: if you're typing it in a terminal, it's probably easier to do "for file in *.rar" ENTER "do" ENTER "rar x $file" ENTER "done"
[10:26] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: The semicolons are just a different way of separating the lines.
[10:27] <specialcharacter> whats that russel?
[10:27] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: That command is "for every file in the directory whose name ends in '.rar', call 'rar x FILENAME'"
[10:27] <x89x> jordan_U: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/newname doesnt do anything !
[10:27] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: What do you mean by 'make it proper'?
[10:27] <LukeEkbla1> i need help plzzz
[10:27] <Jordan_U> x89x, No output?
[10:27] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: What you just said is fine, I wanted to make sure to get the command right...So it's best to move the rars to the final destination, then run that script?
[10:27] <PriceChild> specialcharacter, ask your real question
[10:27] <godlygeek> LukeEkbla1: did you try 'rm .Xauthority' from a terminal?
[10:27] <zilliot> opensource kills jobs!!
[10:28] <jklewis> Where can I change which partitions are checked during boot-up?
[10:28] <ana> OK, I read all that, but i'm not sure I understand.
[10:28] <zilliot> opensource is shit!
[10:28] <gejr> Jordan_U: ok, but shouldn't it be possible to get it from source somehow? What makes it so much harder to install this in ubuntu than in i.e. archlinux?
[10:28] <Jordan_U> !ops
[10:28] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:28] <ThanatosDrive> Thank you!
[10:28] <russe11> Thanks PriceChild.
[10:28] <ana> I need to unmount my windows partition, and that is also the /boot partition (i believe)
[10:28] <x89x> jordan_U: no
[10:28] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media -o umask=000
[10:28] <x89x> x89x@x89x:~$
[10:28] <genii> ChrisF_: I usually make a dir there and chown it to www-data then symlink to it from some users home dir who will be developing the page. then put them in group www-data
[10:28] <ompaul> Jordan_U, when do you that can you do it like this !ops | USERNAME you want attention drawn to :)
[10:28] <specialcharacter> ok. i have installed apache2 and php5, installed the mod thing, followed all the instructions, restardted apache etc, but apache doesnt catch requests for php
[10:29] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: Yeh, that would work fine.  You could do it in plenty of different ways, though.  easier than what i just came up with, you could do 'cd /to/the/destination; for file in /orig/directory/*.rar; do rar x $file; done'
[10:29] <il_padrino> helllo
[10:29] <il_padrino> i need help with proftpf and proftp-mysql
[10:29] <Jordan_U> gejr, Nothing, just: sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg to get all the dependencies and compile away
[10:29] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I think that will serve me better.
[10:29] <LiNuX_Fr3aK> Hey my wifi wnp511 card works out of the box with ubuntu but i was wondering how to get it working on the command line using iwconfig. I just installed a command line ubuntu and cant get it going.
[10:29] <Falstius> I sometimes wish ext3 supported ACLs.
[10:29] <jklewis> In the boot sequence, how I can have an encrypted partition skipped for fsck?
[10:29] <Jamesinator> Falstius: What are you trying to do?
[10:30] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: That's fine.  Both work. The first is slightly easier if you intend to remove the rar files when done, i think.  *shrug*
[10:30] <ana> http://www.venturecake.com/a-simple-guide-to-using-your-existing-windows-install-apps-in-ubuntu/
[10:30] <Kenz1> LiNuX_Fr3aK: me too....
[10:30] <DrakeJustice> wine 0.9.41... has anyone noticed the serious boom in wine development lately?
[10:30] <ana> is what I'm trying to do.
[10:30] <Falstius> Jamesinator: nothing, just obliquely responding to genii's statement.
[10:30] <LukeEkbla1> help Pleas...
[10:30] <Jamesinator> Falstius: Ah.
[10:30] <godlygeek> jklewis: Do you need it to be mounted automatically?
[10:30] <jklewis> yes
[10:30] <jklewis> but it's encrypted
[10:30] <runa> hi can sb help me configure the touch pad. It works but i cant do the scrolling. this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m68ae864
[10:30] <toryl__> \Ben: just to make sure, you have no encryption on that router, correct?  And it is set to broadcast your ssid?
[10:31] <LiNuX_Fr3aK> There is too much bloat in Ubuntu so I wanna go command line and build my way up to what i need. Where do I start with wifi
[10:31] <LinuxProbie> Hey, can someone tell me how to make a command-line script that I can fire using a button on one of the taskbars?
[10:31] <\Ben> 1sec i check
[10:31] <ana> It says /media/sda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[10:31] <ana> So I can't unmount that drive.
[10:31] <godlygeek> jklewis: man fstab, check the 2nd to last paragraph in Description
[10:32] <Jamesinator> LinuxProbie: See query
[10:32] <jklewis> godlygeek: thanks
[10:32] <disasm> Hey all, I have a ~/.fluxbox/apps file that matches by title of a window for autoresizing as well as removing title bars for a terminal. I just upgraded from debian sarge to ubuntu edgy. My fluxbox version is Fluxbox 1.0rc2. Anyways, back to the problem. It doesn't use the default aterm window settings my other terminals do. If I don't pass any options to aterm, it comes up transparent, but without shading. If I try to force any shading,
[10:32] <godlygeek> it says that if you put a '0' in the 6th field for that partition in fstab, it won't be checked.
[10:32] <Falstius> LinuxProbie: make the script, then right click on the pannel and "add to panel", add custom launcher
[10:32] <tomh-> anyone knows why my native resolution wont show up on the screen resolution config screen?
[10:33] <disasm> tomh-: Is it in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:33] <tomh-> no
[10:33] <disasm> tomh-: if your resolution isn't in there, it won't show up in the gnome config
[10:33] <tomh-> how do i properly add it?
[10:33] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I am getting "rar" command not found...I installed the unrar package, I've been using it via gui, is it unrar as opposed to rar, am I missing something?
[10:33] <LukeEkbla1> I need help
[10:34] <Falstius> disasm: do you know if that is 'fixed' with the xorg 7.3?  True plug in play monitor support will be really nice.
[10:34] <\Ben> toryl__, it must be broadcasting its ssid as other laptops can see if when not on the network. as for security its setup with 128 wep
[10:34] <_Lucretia_> is there a deb for vmgl?
[10:35] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: The problem, then, is that you don't have a commandline program to do the un-rar.  no big deal.  just do 'sudo apt-get install rar'
[10:35] <LukeEkbla1> every time i try to search for updates, it says:  unable to copy Xusers Athorization files
[10:35] <toryl__> \Ben:  1. make sure you're setting the key with iwconfig before you're setting the SSID and 2. try connecting with WEP disabled.
[10:35] <disasm> tomh-: good question, I custom write my xorg.conf, so I don't know any easy way to do it. If you look for a SubSection    "Display" in the file, change the Modes line, to contain all the resolutions your monitor supports
[10:35] <\Ben> ok cheers, ill give that ago. have been putting key after ssid
[10:35] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: Then follow the first set of instructions.  The program's name is 'rar', and the 'x' after it means 'extract'.  :)
[10:35] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Done deal...installed the package...=)...Now I am told "invalid option"  I have it as rar x that right?
[10:36] <DarkRamon> hello
[10:36] <DarkRamon> how are you guys
[10:36] <Falstius> PurpZeY: godlygeek, rar e file.rar
[10:36] <PurpZeY> godlygeek:  for file in *.rar; do rar x $file; done that's the exact command.
[10:36] <DarkRamon> .... whats the command to send all messages i have in queue with exim?
[10:36] <toryl__> \Ben: good luck
[10:36] <PurpZeY> Falstius: Thanks.
[10:37] <con> After installing Beryl I have no Title bar, and the fix on the WiKi didn't do anything
[10:37] <disasm> Falstius: I doubt it. Probably the easiest way to "fix" the problem is to have a gui tool in Admin menu that has options for resolutions and dual head setups, etc... xorg does a very good job at detecting hardware and determining resolutions, but there is no easy way without editing the file to fix it's guesses.
[10:37] <godlygeek> uh...
[10:37] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: replace 'rar x $file' with 'echo rar x $file' and show me the first line that it prints out.  :)
[10:37] <DarkRamon> hello?... whats the command to send all the messages in queue with exim?
[10:37] <danya_> how can I know If my firefox is a 32 or 64 ?
[10:38] <PurpZeY> godlygeek:  for file in *.rar; do rar x $file; done
[10:38] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Ack. my mistake.
[10:38] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `echo'
[10:38] <LukeEkbla1> can somebody pleas help me? pleas?
[10:39] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: yikes.  i dunno.  i've been using zsh, not bash, and it's probably a subtle difference in syntax.
[10:39] <x89x> how do i get my unmounted drives backk ???
[10:39] <LukeEkbla1> every time i try to search for updates, it says:  unable to copy Xusers Athorization files
[10:39] <specialcharacter> can someone help me with apache? i cant get it to run php?
[10:39] <con> After installing Beryl I have no Title bar, and the fix on the WiKi didn't do anything
[10:39] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: Try 'for file in *.rar' <ENTER> 'do' <ENTER> 'rar x $file' <ENTER> 'done' <ENTER>
[10:39] <Falstius> PurpZeY: for file in `ls --color=none *.rar`; do rar e $file; done
[10:39] <x89x> sudo umount /media/hda1
[10:39] <x89x> sudo mv /media/hda1 /media/newname
[10:39] <zellei> ejha
[10:39] <zellei> doktor
[10:40] <zellei> vagyis doktorok
[10:40] <godlygeek> x99x: sudo mv /media/newname /media/hda1; mount /media/hda1
[10:41] <Falstius> PurpZeY: a more robust way is: find . -name '*.rar' -exec rar e \{} \;
[10:41] <DarkRamon> can someone please help me?
[10:41] <Jamesinator> !anybody | darkramon
[10:41] <ubotu> darkramon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:42] <DarkRamon> i did it
[10:42] <PurpZeY> Falstius: Cannot open ls.rar
[10:42] <PurpZeY> No such file or directory
[10:42] <DarkRamon> again: ... whats the command to send all messages in queue with exim?
[10:42] <godlygeek> Falstius, PurpZeY : True enough, find is a little bit better.
[10:42] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: replace '*.rar' with '/from/dir/*.rar'
[10:42] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: wait
[10:42] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: That was wrong.
[10:42] <toryl__> zellei: what language?
[10:43] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: make it 'find /from/dir -name "*.rar"'
[10:43] <PurpZeY> godlygeek, Falstius: This is the command I ran:  for file in 'ls --color=none *.rar'; do rar e $file; done
[10:43] <LukeEkbla1> I really need help
[10:43] <Falstius> PurpZeY: even better better is, find /some/dir -name '*.rar' -maxdepth=0 -exec rar e \{} \;
[10:43] <LukeEkbla1> can someone help me?
[10:43] <Falstius> PurpZeY: you need to us ` not '
[10:43] <LukeEkbla1> Pleas?
[10:43] <PurpZeY> Falstius: On both sides?
[10:43] <Jamesinator> !repeat | LukeEkbla1
[10:43] <ubotu> LukeEkbla1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:43] <Falstius> PurpZeY: yes
[10:44] <LukeEkbla1>  every time i try to search for updates, it says:  unable to copy Xusers Athorization files
[10:44] <Falstius> PurpZeY: `some_command` and $(some_command) are equivalent in bash.
[10:44] <godlygeek> LukeEkbla1: 3 times, i've asked if you tried 'rm .Xauthority' from a terminal, and 3 times, you didn't answer me.
[10:44] <furenku> does the Intel Media Accelerator X3100 work well with ubuntu? instead of nVIDIA
[10:44] <Falstius> PurpZeY: if there are any spaces in the file names though, it will break.  Find doesn't have that problem.
[10:45] <LukeEkbla1> godlygeek:   I dident see cuz you dident say my name first, sorry :(
[10:45] <aegil> hi, I installed ubuntu, and for some reason my chevrons are showing like that as doubles, instead ofsingles, and i need to sort it for coding, is there anything i can check to fix it
[10:45] <godlygeek> LukeEkbla1: Yes, yes i did, all 3 times.  :-p
[10:45] <PurpZeY> Falstius: I just discovered that....Let me see if I can't get that find to work.
[10:45] <dingdong> Installing Pidgin in Ubuntu 7.04, will there be a fix for apt-get that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop??
[10:45] <it0> I made a not so smooth ptransition from SLED10 to ubuntu 7.04, the biggest problem that I have is a mouse that is very sluggish, I tried different protocols, but nothing helped, this is a normal logitech usb mouse? anyone have an idea what to do?
[10:46] <CheesyMonkey> dingdong, You can remove ubuntu-desktop, its simply a meta package which drags in all the required packages
[10:46] <shawn34> I have video captured to my pc, i'm looking for an app that I can create nice little home movies with and add music and effects. I tried using LiVES but its buggy and really confusing. What else is out there?
[10:46] <it0> aegil: check your keyboard settings
[10:46] <Falstius> PurpZeY: to get ride of all the spaces, rename 's/ //g' *.rar
[10:46] <Meyvn> it0: you checked mouse sensitivity?
[10:46] <Noooop> ...
[10:46] <tschaka> merc avi ger/english
[10:46] <godlygeek> CheesyMonkey, dingdong : Don't do that, or it will likely break distro upgrades from edgy or feisty to gutsy
[10:46] <PurpZeY>  Falstius: find -name '*.rar' -maxdepth=0 -exec rar e \{} \; will unrar to the current dir?
[10:46] <dingdong> CheesyMonkey: thats what i thought
[10:46] <it0> Meyvn: yes, doesn't make a difference, it feels like it's stuttering
[10:46] <dingdong> godlygeek: erm, that was to you :)
[10:47] <Meyvn> it0: try plugging it into another USB slot
[10:47] <Falstius> PurpZeY: find . -name '*.rar' -maxdepth=0 -exec rar e \{} \;
[10:47] <CheesyMonkey> dingdong, You can remove it though?
[10:47] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: not '.', '/from/dir'
[10:47] <Falstius> PurpZeY: in linux, . means the current directory and .. means up one directory.
[10:47] <orm> question
[10:47] <orm> how can I get alsaconf for dapper drake
[10:47] <PurpZeY> Falstius: find: invalid predicate `-maxdepth=0'
[10:48] <dingdong> CheesyMonkey: sure i can, but i'm using gnome and xfce, and like the os the way it is. don't want to brake it
[10:48] <it0> now it stopped working completely
[10:48] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: *sigh*, it's not -maxdepth=0, it's '-maxdepth 0'
[10:48] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I just copied and pasted. . .
[10:48] <Meyvn> it0: hmm
[10:48] <aegil> thanks it0, i figured it out, was a problem with my remote desktop settings
[10:48] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: i'm not getting frustrated by you, i'm getting frustrated because it's so hard to explain things through a bunch of copy-pastes, heh
[10:48] <Falstius> PurpZeY: sorry that is -maxdepth 0, no =
[10:49] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: adding the 's didn't change...same error....
[10:49] <Cyber_Stalker> it0 try rebooting?
[10:49] <Justi1> how do I install OpenGL Python bindings
[10:49] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: wait, no...
[10:49] <shawn34> I have video captured to my pc, i'm looking for an app that I can create nice little home movies with and add music and effects. I tried using LiVES but its buggy and really confusing. What else is out there? Anyone know of any good apps?
[10:49] <Meyvn> it0: using an USB logitech mouse here as well, let me check my mouse settings
[10:49] <Kjellviz> does ubuntu have anything similar to kubuntus option "edit as root" when rightclicking files ?
[10:49] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: The command should be
[10:49] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: find /from/dir -name '*.rar' -maxdepth 0 -exec rar e \{} \;
[10:49] <it0> i used al kinds of distro's never a problem, installed ubuntu on seevral ystesm, also not a problem, however on this machine it is
[10:50] <Meyvn> it0: did you find any mouse conf file?
[10:50] <orm> can I get alsaconf for dapper drake?
[10:50] <it0> tried another port, now it is working
[10:50] <Falstius> PurpZeY: godlygeek: actually it is -maxdepth 1
[10:50] <it0> Meyvn: should have tried that sooner
[10:50] <godlygeek> dingdong: i don't know how to make apt-get not want to remove it, though.  although, you might be able to counteract the bad things that could happen when it is removed by allowing ubuntu-desktop to be removed, and then installing ubuntu-server.. i don't know bad that would be, though.
[10:50] <Falstius> PurpZeY: my bad.  I don't use that switch very often.
[10:51] <Meyvn> it0: great ;)
[10:51] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compilel in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[10:51] <godlygeek> Falstius: :)  Serves me right for listening to you.  of course, he's right, it's maxdepth 1
[10:51] <Meyvn> it0: maybe one of the USB slots was dirty/corrupted?
[10:51] <it0> godlygeek: use aptitude in stead of apt-get, also try aptitude hold ubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <dingdong> godlygeek: ok, i'll look around a bit... weird that there hasn't been an update for that. thanks tho!
[10:52] <it0> Meyvn: hard to imagine, it's a new monitor, perhaps to Little power
[10:52] <godlygeek> dingdong: ^that was really to you
[10:52] <it0> now I only have to get my monitor resolutionb correct
[10:52] <Meyvn> it0: are you on a laptop?
[10:52] <it0> nope desktop
[10:52] <conorkirkpatrick> After installing Beryl I have no Title bar, and the fix on the WiKi didn't do anything
[10:53] <PurpZeY> godlygeek, Falstius: Ok, the script worked with maxdepth 1 but it is not extracting my rars into directories...Each archive contains a folder...For some reason it appears to be opening the contents of that folder and extracting...I would like that folder whole
[10:53] <Justi1> how do I install OpenGL Python bindings and GtkGLExt Python bindings??
[10:53] <orm> alsaconf for dapper drake?
[10:53] <Meyvn> it0: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:53] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compilel in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found. Any ideas?
[10:53] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: replace 'rar e' with 'rar x'
[10:53] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: x extracts and KEEPS directory structure, e extracts and disregards directory structure.
[10:53] <Meyvn> it0: then under display add your desired resoluation under Depth 24
[10:54] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Now I am getting the maxdepth error again, using the x option
[10:54] <Meyvn> it0: save and close the file, that should do it
[10:54] <DJ_Danni> Hello
[10:54] <Justi1> how do I install OpenGL Python bindings and GtkGLExt Python bindings??
[10:54] <[swb] > Hello all
[10:54] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: copy the line you just used please.  :)
[10:54] <DJ_Danni> Hey i have install ATI Radion Driver but how do i put Secound Screen to woork?
[10:54] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: find . -name '*.rar' -maxdepth 1 -exec rar x \{} \;
[10:54] <Meyvn> it0: back up your old xorg.conf just in case
[10:55] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compilel in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found. Any ideas? PLZ
[10:55] <[swb] > anyone had any success/experience attempting to compile vdrift from source on ubuntu?
[10:55] <azslande> Hi, I keep getting this line " You must have glib-gettext >= 2.2.0 installed this line " but I cant seem to find glib-gettext by using apt-cache search, does anyone know what exactly to search for or what to type to get the program I need installed?
[10:55] <it0> thanks for the help,later!!!
[10:55] <DJ_Danni> Hey i have install ATI Radion Driver but how do i put Secound Screen to woork?
[10:55] <aquacurve> Has anyone had the problem with the LiveCD - as to when you go to click install, it doesn't do anything?
[10:55] <aquacurve> 7.04 mind you.
[10:55] <orm> what are the alternatives to alsaconf?
[10:55] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: you don't want 'find .'  You want 'find /from/dir' The thing immediately after find is the directory to search in.
[10:55] <Littlegator> aquacurve: did you check the disk for errors?
[10:55] <rolfen> aquacurve: maybe it doesnt want to install
[10:55] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I am in that dir so I used .
[10:56] <aquacurve> rolfen: Thanks smartass
[10:56] <DJ_Danni> Hey i have install ATI Radion Driver but how do i put Secound Screen to woork?
[10:56] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: oh.  crap.  ok.
[10:56] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I moved the files, b/c I thought I was going to do it the other way.
[10:56] <DJ_Danni> do somone know that?
[10:56] <[swb] > azslande, have you tried aptitude search gettext
[10:56] <aquacurve> Has anyone had the problem with the LiveCD - as to when you go to click install, it doesn't do anything?
[10:56] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compilel in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found. Anyone have some idea of what the problem could be?
[10:56] <jmazikowski> hi, im having trouble with the java JDK 1.6.0_u2. I installed it using the .bin file from sun, created symlinks to the java and javac tools in /usr/bin. it will compile and run term programs, but if i try to run a gui (address book i wrote or frostwire) they just show a titled frame w/ a blank panel inside... what could be wrong? BTW, i am getting no errors or anything shown
[10:56] <Littlegator> DJ_Danni what do you mean second screen?
[10:56] <aquacurve> Has anyone had the problem with the LiveCD - as to when you go to click install, it doesn't do anything?
[10:56] <azslande> yea swb, couldn't find anything...
[10:56] <orm> is there an alsaconf I can get for dapper or an equiv?
[10:56] <Littlegator> aquacurve: did you check the disk for errors?
[10:56] <aquacurve> Yes, no errors.
[10:57] <[swb] > azslande, odd, check spelling
[10:57] <DJ_Danni> I mean like 1 and 2
[10:57] <[swb] > do you have all repositories
[10:57] <DJ_Danni> You know
[10:57] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: haha, we messed up.  it was our fault, but you need to have 2 of those clauses in a different order.
[10:57] <unagi> anyone have problems with coming out of hibernation to a black screen where u have to restart X?
[10:57] <orm> is there an alsaconf I can get or equiv for dapper drake
[10:57] <Littlegator> DJ_Danni do you mean the second desktop?
[10:57] <orm> ?
[10:57] <jrattner1> Question: Does ubuntuy use maildir or mbox
[10:57] <codecaine> when I try to do a sudo updatedb I get this error message
[10:57] <jrattner1> ?
[10:57] <codecaine> Message from syslogd@codecaine-desktop at Mon Jul 16 16:47:13 2007 ...
[10:57] <codecaine> codecaine-desktop kernel: [  505.332000]  Process updatedb (pid: 6383, ti=f04b2000 task=df871a90 task.ti=f04b2000)
[10:57] <Littlegator> dj_danni or a second monitor?
[10:57] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: it needs to be find . -maxdepth 1 -name "*.rar" -exec rar e \{} \;
[10:57] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Interesting...It seemed to work using e. At any rate, how do I get it right?
[10:57] <DJ_Danni> Yes but one with Empty nothang just Screen
[10:58] <azslande> oh sorry, yes I did get results with just gettext but nothing with the name glib-gettext
[10:58] <orm> is there an alsaconf or equiv for dapper drake
[10:58] <azslande> i misread what you type swb
[10:58] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: The last mistake left is that we had the -name and -maxdepth clauses switched.  -name always needs to be after any other 'selection' inputs.  *shrug*, tiny mistake.
[10:58] <[swb] > I see azslande
[10:58] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: Don't let this scare you away from command line stuff.  this would have been a lot faster if i had been seeing the errors and lines used verbatim, heh
[10:58] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compilel in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found. Do I have to install Gentoo to get this working?
[10:58] <[swb] > well type that, and see what the letter is to the left of gettext and gettext base
[10:58] <orm> s there an alsaconf or equiv for dapper drake
[10:59] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: I am not scared of CLI...Just never did any scripting before...Happy to learn...=)
[10:59] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[10:59] <DJ_Danni> littlegator i mean like Scrren 1 and screen 2
[10:59] <azslande> I get several results when searching for just gettext
[10:59] <toryl__> unagi: all the time.  I assume you've already made sure your swap file exceeds your ram?
[10:59] <Littlegator> DJ_Danni do you mean monitors or the seperate desktops?
[10:59] <DJ_Danni> Yes
[10:59] <Littlegator> Which one?
[11:00] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Zoom-Zoom...It works! Thanks...=)...
[11:00] <[swb] > azslande, and what letter does it say to the left of gettext and gettext-base (should be the first two)
[11:00] <unagi> no....i dunno where the swap file is or what you mean by exceeds my ram
[11:00] <DJ_Danni> I need to get Screen 2 to woork. I see this Chat at boath Scrrens
[11:00] <orm> could somebody please hlp?
[11:00] <[swb] > like i.p.v etc..
[11:00] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: no problem.  I usually use an inline script, i'm rusty on find.  :)
[11:00] <azslande> i then A next to gettext and just i next to gettext-base
[11:01] <Littlegator> DJ_Danni: oh, I get what you're talking about. Well, I'm not positive on how to do it and my Ubuntu is failing right now, so I can't really help you. Sorry. =\
[11:01] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found. H
[11:01] <shawn34> !video editing
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video editing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: the fact that i never get the syntax for find right on the first shot is exactly WHY i usually use an inline script, lol
[11:01] <shawn34> uhg
[11:01] <DJ_Danni> AAH ok
[11:01] <orm> could some one please help
[11:01] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: Whatever works...=)...This is excellent...Saved me sooooo much clicking.
[11:01] <orm> ould some one please help
[11:01] <DJ_Danni> But is it not like in the Windows?
[11:01] <jmazikowski> anyone have any idea what could be happening? or is there a java centric IRC channel somewhere that i should as in?
[11:01] <toryl__> unagi:  the size of your swap partition -- /swap when you did your partitioning in the beginning--has to be larger than the amount of RAM you have, or hibernate fails.
[11:02] <toryl__> unagi:  assuming it's the right size, though, because lots of things foul up hibernation, maybe this might help you:  http://preview.tinyurl.com/32tn5e
[11:02] <DJ_Danni> But is it not like in the Windows?
[11:02] <orm> ould some one please help
[11:02] <orm> ould some one please help
[11:02] <orm> ould some one please help
[11:02] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: i hate gui's... cli stuff is so much faster since i learned to use it, i never look back anymore.  except for web browsers and instant messengers... *shrug*, but otherwise CLI FTW!
[11:02] <toryl__> !repeat | orm
[11:02] <ubotu> orm: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:02] <[swb] > azslande, I would guess try installing libgettextpo-dev
[11:03] <[swb] > but I dont know
[11:03] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:03] <[swb] > as you have gettext packages installed
[11:03] <PurpZeY> godlygeek: What's that maxdepth business about?
[11:03] <Littlegator> ompaul, if you're still there: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30160/
[11:03] <azslande> ok, it guess its some type of addon for gnome-common
[11:03] <unagi> uswsusp screwed up my pc
[11:03] <azslande> at least thats what iv read
[11:03] <ompaul> Littlegator, so hdb is formatted for windows
[11:03] <DJ_Danni> ubotu do you know how its done?
[11:03] <Usrl> question: is there a way to tell WINE specifically to open a program outside of the virtual desktop? I need to run two programs at once, one of them cannot be run on the desktop, and one has to be
[11:03] <unagi> lol DJ_Danni
[11:04] <walls> can any1 make any sense out of this - when installation from image cd i get the message "buffer I/o error on dev fdo logical block 0" - the installation went through ok but the os didnt load properly and hanged on desktop
[11:04] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: maxdepth is number of directories down to search.  so, only search 1 dir below what you gave as a command line argument.
[11:04] <DJ_Danni> lol what?
[11:04] <Ubulindy> I was manually checking for updates today, got error: the following problems were found on your system ( with a list of URL's )  What command do I run to delete the dupes?
[11:04] <unagi> youre asking ubotu a question like its a real person
[11:04] <godlygeek> PurpZeY: in other words, maxdepth one only looks at ./*, maxdepth 2 only looks at ./*/*, etc
[11:04] <Gnontghol> Usrl: just run it like $wine ~/some/file.exe
[11:04] <Littlegator> ompaul: yes
[11:05] <Usrl> Gnontghol: And...? what good is that supposed to do?
[11:05] <godlygeek> walls: sounds like a bad install disk or hd - but fdo sounds like a disk drive.
[11:05] <ompaul> Littlegator, so it seems to me that if you have a live CD just install I can't see where you are having problems with it, it is really easy, pop in CD and seven steps later it should be installed and ready to use,
[11:05] <walls> yer?
[11:05] <Gnontghol> Usrl: run ~/some/file.exe
[11:05] <davetarmac> HI folks - I'm having an issue with AWN. It seems to have taken the bottom 6th of my screen hostage. I just have a big black bar at the bottom about twice as high as the dock itself.  Has anyone had this problem before?
[11:06] <Usrl> Gnontghol: You didn't even read my question at all, did you?
[11:06] <walls> i had xp on there and then ran install from cd - went through then the first initial boot sequence from the hd was very slow and couldnt reach the desktop - what do u recommend godlygeek?
[11:06] <Littlegator> ompaul, I am trying to but it fails at deleting a corrupt partitiong...
[11:06] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know how i get screen 2 to work? I see this chat at boath 2 screens.
[11:07] <tupa> which version of ubuntu has the newer and not so unstable packages?
[11:07] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:07] <tupa> I come from debian and I'm going to try ubuntu on another box
[11:07] <godlygeek> walls: i'm by no means an expert, but i would try comparing the ISO to the disk and making sure they match...
[11:08] <tupa> I want some version like the testing in debian
[11:08] <godlygeek> walls: actually, if you still have a good windows system, try 'scandisk' from windows to check the hard disk for problems.
[11:08] <tupa> that is quite stable but has the newer packages
[11:08] <walls> i did a cheksum godlygeek and it was fine
[11:08] <RkyRaccoon> can someone help me with the rescue mode from the install disk?
[11:08] <ompaul> Littlegator, so have you backed up the data on that partition?
[11:09] <Gnontghol> tupa: the standard ubuntu releases are not far from the debian testing
[11:09] <Ubulindy> Can somehow tell me how to remove duplicate source list entries?
[11:09] <yell0w> hey guys, the language support in unbuntu is it just for the default programs ?
[11:09] <Littlegator> ompaul: the corrupt partition? It has no data I want on it...
[11:09] <unagi> anyone know if its possible to switch sides the icons on the desktop sit and/or how to add 'arrange by type' to the menu?
[11:09] <RkyRaccoon> can someone help me with the rescue mode from the install disk?
[11:09] <ompaul> Littlegator, so then do this in a terminal "sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/hdb"
[11:09] <nvictor> hello guys
[11:10] <nvictor> how do I check the mail queue?
[11:10] <ompaul> Littlegator, ctrl+c after a few seconds and go again
[11:10] <ompaul> nvictor, mailq :)
[11:10] <sample45> question. to install ubuntu do i need another operating system on the hardrive? or does it install from the bootscreen?
[11:10] <palomer> hello
[11:10] <nvictor> ompaul: simply?
[11:10] <Littlegator> ompaul why hdb?
[11:10] <\Ben> toryl__, took security off altogether now, when doing a sudo ifup rausb0 , it looks for DHCPOFFER but doesnt revice any. dhcp is turned on on the router
[11:10] <ompaul> Littlegator, cos that is the second disk
[11:10] <Wooww> how do i set the 1152x864 resolution on gnome ?
[11:11] <unagi> sample45 use gparted on the boot cd to partition the hd first
[11:11] <Gnontghol> sample45: It installs from the live cd
[11:11] <Littlegator> compaul, hdb is the windows disk, which I don't want to edit at all..
[11:11] <\Ben> also no when i do iwconfig, it says nickname"belkin54g" where it didnt before.
[11:11] <\Ben> now*
[11:11] <ompaul> Littlegator, you are destroying the partition table and then it can be started with afresh
[11:11] <sample45> unagi, can the partition easily be taken away?
[11:11] <Littlegator> ompaul, why are we doing anything with my windows disk anyways?
[11:11] <Usrl> question: is there a way to tell WINE specifically to open a program outside of the virtual desktop? I need to run two programs at once, one of them cannot be run on the desktop, and the other has to be
[11:12] <\Ben> i will ty with a static ip as i remember i had that problem once with a windows laptop not picking up dhcp from it.
[11:12] <unagi> what partition sample45
[11:12] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy the firmware into the initramdisk but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:12] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:12] <sample45> unagi. if i were to say (god forbid) want to get rid of ubuntu would it be easy to erase the partition?
[11:12] <tupa> Gnontghol have you tried debian? and if you have, which one did you like the most?
[11:12] <[swb] > zilliot, hahaha
[11:12] <Littlegator> Usrl, I really have no idea if this is what you want, but you can try "wine /file path/"
[11:12] <Usrl> zilliot: wrong, but no.
[11:12] <Gin> hi
[11:13] <unagi> sample45 no more or less difficult than any other partition
[11:13] <[swb] > OpenSource makes my job easier
[11:13] <Gin> when I insert my memory stick, ubuntu doesn't mount it for me
[11:13] <Gnontghol> tupa: Yes, but I allways came back to ubuntu
[11:13] <Usrl> Littlegator: If you don't even know what i'm talking about, please don't answer.
[11:13] <Gin> but it does show up as /dev/sdf1 when I run dmesg
[11:13] <sample45> unagi, thanks
[11:13] <finfin82> hi i installed the ubuntu 7.10 rc2 and have some trouble with compiz :)
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <sample45> ban
[11:13] <zilliot> OpenSource kills jobs!
[11:13] <fujin> anyone here run asterisk? I can't seem to find the asterisk-addons package
[11:13] <fujin> !ops
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:13] <Usrl> Oh @~
[11:14] <ompaul> zilliot, and proprietary software stops innovation
[11:14] <finfin82> yes
[11:14] <Gin> ?
[11:14] <Gin> any help?
[11:14] <finfin82> hes gone ;-)
[11:14] <Josie1> hey guys I'm having a strange USB block device problem.
[11:14] <RkyRaccoon> guys i cant boot ubuntu
[11:14] <compengi> RkyRaccoon, O.o why
[11:14] <RkyRaccoon> im getting fed up with it
[11:14] <ryanakca> how can I remove all X, KDE, etc packages?
[11:15] <Littlegator> ompaul, why are we messing with my windows disk at all?
[11:15] <Gnontghol> zilliot: How do you think we make our mony without a job?
[11:15] <RkyRaccoon> compengi, i dont know it seems to be a video driver problem but im not sure
[11:15] <RkyRaccoon> compengi, after load screen it just gives me a black screen, no login screen
[11:15] <ompaul> Littlegator, you are on your own enjoy
[11:15] <Josie1> I have a rather generic SD card reader that Ubuntu recognizes, mounts, and all that good stuff
[11:15] <shawn34> I have video captured to my pc, i'm looking for an app that I can create nice little home movies with and add music and effects. I tried using LiVES but its buggy and really confusing. What else is out there? Anyone know of any good apps?
[11:15] <compengi> RkyRaccoon, the X server doesn't start?
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon> compengi, this happens every time i re-install, it starts out working fine then it starts slowly not booting
[11:16] <toryl__> \Ben:  you can try assigning a static IP address and see how that works.
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon> compengi, nothing starts
[11:16] <Usrl> So nobody here knows how to specify a program to use the WINE Desktop or not? =/
[11:16] <Josie1> problem is, I can get a file list, but everytime i try to access anything (like cp) I get a file I/O error
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon> compengi the only thing i see when i try to start is the load bar
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon> compengi, after that its a black screen
[11:16] <Hadarra> Skyraccoon: Do You have asus motherbnoard?
[11:16] <\Ben> toryl__: just tried - stil no :(
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, yes
[11:16] <Littlegator> So can  anyone else help? I have a corrupt partition on /dev/hda1 that I am trying to erase so I can install Ubuntu to it. However, the Ubuntu installer fails to delete the partition and resets my partition tables until I reboot.
[11:17] <\Ben> ESSID still says off/any
[11:17] <khin> hi im wondering how to install dictionaries in stardict. is there some folder im supposed to drop the tar file into
[11:17] <khin> or something
[11:17] <\Ben> but nickname shows the name of our network
[11:17] <\Ben> mode auto
[11:17] <toryl__> \Ben:  when you look at the info in iwconfig does it tell you anything about the signal strength and link quality?  Like, do you think it really is connected to the AP?
[11:17] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:17] <Josie1> Littlegator: I have this amazing gparted live CD that I use to take care of hard drives, go get it.
[11:17] <fujin> anyone? asterisk-addons? I can't seem to find it in apt, have enabled universe and multiverse
[11:17] <\Ben> nope
[11:17] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, does asus not work well with ubuntu
[11:17] <Littlegator> Josie1: Do I have to burn it? Burning isn't an option..
[11:18] <Josie1> Littlegator, I think so, but you might be able to do a usb-boot
[11:18] <toryl__> \Ben: you did an ifdown and an ifup on that interface?
[11:18] <Hadarra> No it does not wait a sec...
[11:18] <Josie1> Littlegator, currently my usb is whack so I couldn't tell you.
[11:18] <\Ben> only 3 lines... RT73 WLAN ESSID: off/any Nickname:"belkin54g", Mode:Auto Channel=11 Bit Rate=54 Mb/s, RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
[11:18] <\Ben> yeah down and uped it
[11:18] <Littlegator> Josie: I don't have any usb drives either =
[11:18] <Justi1> how do I install OpenGL Python bindings and GtkGLExt Python bindings??
[11:18] <Josie1> Littlegator, what OS are you on right now?
[11:19] <Josie1> Littlegator: or are you not even on that computer
[11:19] <Littlegator> Josie: I'm not even on that computer
[11:19] <Josie1> LIttlegator: So the ubuntu install CD is all you've got huh?
[11:19] <nvictor> guys, does c panel [the hosting manager]  provide a way to access mails??
[11:19] <toryl__> \Ben: one thing I've read was to remove network-manager-gnome, have you tried that?
[11:19] <soothsayer> !ot | nvictor
[11:19] <ubotu> nvictor: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:19] <RkyRaccoon> !asus
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <\Ben> yeah ive removed network manager
[11:19] <\Ben> installed wifi radar
[11:20] <Littlegator> Josie: Yes. I have windows but it's being pretty retarded, and I'm trying to reinstall my corrupt ubuntu so I can back up the windows data and reinstall windows...
[11:20] <nvictor> soothsayer: bad bad boy :D
[11:20] <Hadarra> SkyRaccoon: In file /etc/X11/xorg.conf change Section "Device" to Driver "vesa"
[11:20] <Biteyni> anybody know of a windows program that can fix an NTFS error bad sectors and stuff becuase my external harddrive wont open in windows but it does open in ubuntu
[11:20] <Cas> HI, My apt-get is broken because of a package configure failure. I submitted a bug about it, but can anyone tell me how to fix my system? How can I force the package to remove or skips its configuration process?
[11:20] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, its "RkyRaccoon"
[11:20] <Josie1> Littlegator: Alright, so the Ubuntu install program is failing to reformat that partition?
[11:20] <Littlegator> Josie: Yes
[11:20] <nvictor> !ot | Biteyni
[11:20] <ubotu> Biteyni: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:21] <nvictor> :D
[11:21] <Hadarra> I tried with ubuntu. Then I installed Mandriva and made the  change. I don't know if it works with ubuntu...
[11:21] <Biteyni> duhh
[11:21] <Biteyni> but i still need help
[11:21] <Gnontghol> Littlegator: have you tryed mkfs?
[11:21] <Hadarra> I'll install ubuntu again later
[11:21] <Biteyni> for ubuntu :)
[11:21] <Littlegator> Ghontghol: No idea what that is >_>
[11:21] <Gin> my ubuntu doesn't auto mount my memory card
[11:21] <Gin> :(
[11:21] <nvictor> Biteyni: let's make a deal, do you know Cpanel?
[11:21] <Biteyni> yeah
[11:21] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, the video driver?
[11:21] <Josie1> Gin: USB on my ubuntu is f'ed in the a, don't even get started
[11:21] <LukeEkblad> someomes gata help me pleeas!
[11:22] <toryl__> \Ben: dunno man, I hope someone else chimes in here for you.  Mine worked after all that crap.
[11:22] <nvictor> Biteyni: if you tell me how to configure mail, I will help you
[11:22] <RkyRaccoon> !vesa
[11:22] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[11:22] <Biteyni> lol
[11:22] <Biteyni> lol!
[11:22] <Hadarra> yes.
[11:22] <Littlegator> Gnontghol: No idea what that is >_>
[11:22] <Gnontghol> Littlegator: in a teminal type sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sd?
[11:22] <Biteyni> *goes to find real help*
[11:22] <LukeEkblad> I tryed to logg into my account on ubuntu then it sais that i coyldent
[11:22] <\Ben> ok no probs toryl__, thanks for the support so far :)
[11:22] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, vesa doesnt support my video card
[11:22] <Josie1> Littlegator: your best best is to format before you install, like Gnontghol is telling you.
[11:22] <silverblade> would there be any issue with me installing ubuntu/kubuntu on a hard drive then transplanting that drive into another machine
[11:22] <toryl__> \Ben: very welcome.
[11:22] <LukeEkblad> It said that theres not enought room on mr hard disk or somthing
[11:22] <nvictor> Biteyni: Deal or no deal!
[11:23] <Gnontghol> Littlegator: replace sd? with device
[11:23] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, ive got a radeon x1950pro
[11:23] <LukeEkblad> pleas help!
[11:23] <walls> quick question. ive copied the ubuntu iso to a cd and want to check it to see if it matches the iso on the hd. can i do this by locating the ms5sum.txt file on the cd?
[11:23] <Usrl> question: is there a way to tell WINE specifically to open a program outside of the virtual desktop? I need to run two programs at once, one of them cannot be run on the desktop, and the other has to be
[11:23] <Hadarra> Ah, Sorry but then I can't help. Try Mandriva linux for now if You can...
[11:23] <Littlegator> gnontghol josie1: How do I format just the one partition? I have personal data on another partition on the drive...
[11:23] <Sharn> walls, you could also boot it up and have it check itself
[11:24] <Josie1> gnontghol: each hard drive partition is treated as a seperate device
[11:24] <Biteyni> does anybody know how to fix NTFS errl
[11:24] <Josie1> I meant Littlegator
[11:24] <Biteyni> error in windows?
[11:24] <bruenig> walls, when you say virtual desktop do you mean the compatibility layer
[11:24] <Biteyni> loads fine in ubuntu
[11:24] <Littlegator> Josie1: Oh yeah, I forgot. >_> Okay, well I'll do that. Thanks.
[11:24] <Gnontghol> Littlegator: the way I said: sudo mkfs -t ext /dev/sda2
[11:24] <walls> how sharn? :)
[11:24] <NixMan_> i wrote a script to download thunderbird <IP_ADDRESS>, install it, with a menu item. i want to test it a few times to make sure it works. if you are going to test it, if you have thunderbird installed, please uninstall it (you settings will be ok), make sure there is no menu entry for it, then run my .sh script. can someone do this? http://www.techystuff.info/installthunderbird.sh
[11:24] <Kraftwerk112> Hi there, I could need a little help here
[11:25] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, any chance kubuntu would be any different?
[11:25] <Josie1> So, does anyone know what Ubuntu's problem is with my USB block devices? works fine with my usb keyboard.
[11:25] <NixMan_> if you are uncomfortable with running random scripts, check the contents first, it's clean. http://www.techystuff.info/installthunderbird.sh
[11:25] <Sharn> walls, when you boot up the livecd (Is it the live version?) it should have the option to check the cd for defects
[11:25] <LukeEkblad> dose anyone wana help on not?
[11:25] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know how i get screen 2 to work? I see this chat at boath 2 screens.
[11:25] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:25] <Josie1> I think I'm try the livecd here soon and see if it works ok with my devices and if it does I know something is weird with my install.
[11:25] <Kraftwerk112> Somehow, when I mount a DVD, the DVD mount but I cannot access anything on it
[11:26] <NixMan_> oh, you must run the script as sudo for it to work.
[11:26] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know how i get screen 2 to work? I see this chat at boath 2 screens.
[11:26] <LukeEkblad> Since i cant logg onto ubuntu, i decided to put the ubuntu live disk into my compuiter and start from scratch
[11:26] <LukeEkblad> But now it wont let me install it
[11:26] <walls> Sharn pm
[11:26] <alveola> Do you know Debian repos?
[11:26] <Hadarra> RkyRaccoon: I think Driver "ati" might work ?
[11:26] <Josie1> LukeEkblad: what's your problem?
[11:26] <DJ_Danni> Hey i have ati
[11:26] <Hadarra> Kubuntu is the same as ubuntu. no help there
[11:27] <DJ_Danni> and how do i get screen 2 to woork?
[11:27] <DjViper> \Ben: still here?
[11:27] <\Ben> yeah
[11:27] <mikey1> can someone direct me to the proper chan to recieve support on desktop effects / customization?
[11:27] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, ive tried that
[11:27] <Gnontghol> Hadarra: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome
[11:27] <lufis> mikey1: #ubuntu-effects
[11:27] <mikey1> lufis: thank you
[11:27] <lufis> no prob
[11:27] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know how i get screen 2 to work? I see this chat at boath 2 screens.
[11:27] <Usrl> question: is there a way to tell WINE specifically to open a program outside of the virtual desktop? I need to run two programs at once, one of them cannot be run on the desktop, and the other has to be
[11:27] <walls> Sharn i downloaded version 704 is that the live version?
[11:28] <leip> I installed ubuntustudio-audio, booted into  the 2.6.20-16-lowlatency kernel, and now my audio doesn't work... what's going on? By doesn't work I mean I play an audio device and no sound comes from my speakers
[11:28] <Hadarra> I know, but it's basically the same configuration
[11:28] <DJ_Danni> ?
[11:28] <RkyRaccoon> hadarra, vesa got me a gui but i cant type in anything, its basically frozen
[11:28] <Kraftwerk112> an output of ls -l gives the following: dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 18432 2005-09-17 16:17 forberedelses - camp
[11:28] <\Ben> DjViper, yeah iam still here :p
[11:29] <Josie1> I'm pretty much sick of this usb crap. I'ma stab something
[11:29] <DJ_Danni> Do somone know how i get screen 2 to work? I see this chat at boath 2 screens.
[11:29] <Hadarra> How about "xorg" ?
[11:29] <Kraftwerk112> However, I can't even read the files as root
[11:29] <toryl__> !repeat | DJ_Danni
[11:29] <ubotu> DJ_Danni: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:29] <DjViper> \Ben: did you fix it?
[11:29] <Sharn> walls, if you downloaded the default iso from the website, it should  be the live cd of the regular ubuntu
[11:29] <\Ben> DjViper, no not yet :(
[11:29] <pushpop> what peforms better on ubuntu Workstation 6.0 or Vmware-Server
[11:29] <DjViper> \Ben: do you know if you can set 'preferred' wlan networks with wifi-radar ?
[11:29] <Kraftwerk112> Does someone have an idea?
[11:29] <fiaccola> hi! I'm doing a work for my school. is there anyone who could help me to translate in italian some journalistic words?
[11:29] <bad_cables> what is the easiest GUI tool for configuring LAMP ?
[11:30] <bad_cables> WebMin?
[11:30] <DjViper> \Ben: what's the problem, exactly?
[11:30] <Josie1> Dj_Danni: Dual screens on linux is not hard, but you're probably gonna have to edit the X config file, and it's very easy to find how to do this on the net. Google is your friend
[11:30] <lufis> fiaccola: see #ubuntu-offtopic for off-topic conversation
[11:30] <Hadarra> Also when I got irritated with ubuntu, i run knoppix live cd with boot parameter "knoppix noapic". That worked.
[11:30] <bad_cables> Dual screens on the 12" iBook is not advisable
[11:30] <magic_pinguim> don`t give to me many trust one distro thta have one bug in firewall and they don`t correct they ... the firestater ins`t it running at the init need torun manually ... why ubuntu still don`t correct this?
[11:30] <Josie1> bad_cables, lol
[11:31] <\Ben> DjViper, you can configure specific networks in wifi-radar by the looks of it yes. My problem is that it wont connect to the router... When i do iwconfig - it only shows me 3 lines..
[11:31] <fiaccola> tnx
[11:31] <kblin> hi folks
[11:31] <Sharn> walls, if you know how to check md5, here are the sums: http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/7.04/MD5SUMS
[11:31] <\Ben> DjViper, them 3 lines being ... RT73 WLAN ESSID: off/any Nickname:"belkin54g", Mode:Auto Channel=11 Bit Rate=54 Mb/s, RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
[11:31] <DjViper> \Ben: which driver / card do you use?
[11:31] <\Ben> belkin F5D7050 ver 3000, ralink
[11:31] <bad_cables> anyone know of a really simple GUI app to config LAMP?
[11:31] <Hadarra> The problem resolution as I see it is in disabling apic  (maybe also lapic and possibly even acpi)
[11:31] <kblin> can anybody tell me which samba package provides the ntlm_auth binary? I suspect it's the winbind package, but I don't have it installed
[11:32] <walls> Sharn check pm
[11:32] <DjViper> \Ben: hmm okay, I've never used that card or driver, sorry
[11:32] <Josie1> bad_cables: have you tried Google?
[11:32] <\Ben> i have followed this thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_3000_%28Ralink_rt73_driver%29?highlight=%28f5d7050%29 , and then turned to this one when i had problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236
[11:32] <bad_cables> yeah i  found one called WebMin
[11:32] <bad_cables> is it good?
[11:32] <Josie1> I dunno, try it out.
[11:32] <\Ben> DjViper, ah ok - no probs. thanks anyways :)
[11:33] <walls> i just wanted to confirm that by locationg the mdsum txt file on the cd and sending it to the cksum prog i could compare it to the original iso?
[11:33] <Sharn> walls, I have no pm window here, =\
[11:33] <BashBang> Sharn : you have to register to pm
[11:34] <Sharn> Thought I was. One second
[11:34] <sample45> what is beryl?
[11:34] <walls> am i right with my cd cksum method?
[11:34] <Sharn> I am registered and identified. I'm guessing walls is not?
[11:34] <Kraftwerk112> Now I it seems I cannot mount DVD's altogether
[11:34] <walls> u answered me before sharn
[11:34] <walls> in the window
[11:34] <zilliot> hi!
[11:34] <Sharn> Ah, but I didn't get your messages.
[11:35] <Kraftwerk112> I really need help on ythis one
[11:35] <zilliot> i have your ubuntu cd
[11:35] <walls> u answered one i think
[11:35] <zilliot> but not have hard drive
[11:35] <RkyRaccoon> can anyone help me with ubuntu, it wont boot and i dont want to re-install
[11:35] <zilliot> send me HD
[11:35] <Kraftwerk112> CD's are being mounted just fine
[11:35] <walls> sharn was i right btw with the cd check?
[11:36] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : why won't it boot?
[11:36] <Sharn> walls, I am honestly not very good with checking md5sums. Someone else can probably help with that. I've always been able to just boot the cd and have it check itself
[11:36] <Gnontghol> sample45: beryl is a type of red diemond
[11:36] <zilliot> eyyy!   send me HD!!
[11:36] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, i have no idea, it stopps after loading bar
[11:36] <_Lucretia_> is there a deb for vmgl?
[11:36] <sample45> gnongtghol: whats a red diamond?
[11:36] <walls> quick question. ive copied the ubuntu iso to a cd and want to check it to see if it matches the iso on the hd. can i do this by locating the ms5sum.txt file on the cd?
[11:36] <walls> ne1 quick answer? :)
[11:36] <hamza> hey guys i get a boot error  kinit no resume immage found....doing normal boot....can any one help me out here
[11:37] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : can you boot into failsafe?
[11:37] <mwe> walls: you shouldn't burn the iso as a file if you want to boot it
[11:37] <MattJ> walls, I didn't know there was an md5sum.txt on the CD
[11:37] <Kraftwerk112> Does anyone have an idea why suddenly the mounting of DVD's fails in 7.04?
[11:37] <cafuego> hamza: that's not a boot error but a normal startup message.
[11:37] <velko> sample45, if you type "beryl" in google this is the first hit. and the first question answered is your question... http://www.beryl-project.org/
[11:37] <walls> i didnt mwe i burnt it as an image
[11:37] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, you mean recovery mode? no gui just a command line?
[11:37] <{HRF}Ghost> Guys I want to uninstall linux that's on a single drive how do I do it?
[11:37] <clahey> So, is there a universe repository for dapper drake?
[11:37] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : yup
[11:37] <clahey> It doesn't seem to be listed in synaptic.
[11:37] <Josie1> Ghost: just reformat the drive?
[11:37] <{HRF}Ghost> using?
[11:38] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, yea that works
[11:38] <walls> yer there is a chksum on there
[11:38] <mwe> walls: you can't check the md5 after it's burned. I think you need to do it after you download the file
[11:38] <Josie1> {HRF}Ghost: any linux live CD or another other OS's install util
[11:38] <Jordan_U> walls, You can do that or just run the check at boot from the LiveCD
[11:38] <{HRF}Ghost> Josiel, what do I use to reformat?
[11:38] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, i keep hearing that its a video driver problem from people on this forum but I dont know how to fix it
[11:38] <Jordan_U> mwe, Yes you can, there is a sum on the CD
[11:38] <Kraftwerk112> Does absolutely noone know?
[11:38] <mwe> Jordan_U: but it's for the iso file
[11:38] <Gnontghol> {HRF}Ghost: the same as you use to format
[11:39] <hamza> but then it takes a lot of time if i don't do anything...i have to press alt F2
[11:39] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : k, so you want to boot into failsafe, login, and check the output of dmesg
[11:39] <Kraftwerk112> Or could at least give a hint to how i could go about?
[11:39] <{HRF}Ghost> Yeah I don't know what the command is
[11:39] <walls> ok Jordan_U - yer i cheksummed the iso originally on the hd but wanted to cksum the quality of the image burnt on the cd so wanted to know if that way i just suggested was correct yer? :)
[11:39] <Seoke> I'm getting ImportError: No module named gtk when I try to update to 7.04
[11:39] <Josie1> {HRF} Ghost mkfs
[11:39] <mwe> walls: that wont work I think
[11:39] <walls> he just said it would
[11:39] <Josie1> {HRF}Ghost the man page should tell you all you need to know.
[11:39] <{HRF}Ghost> k thanks
[11:40] <Jordan_U> mwe, There has to be something on the CD that will work or else there couldn't be a check at boot
[11:40] <{HRF}Ghost> later guys
[11:40] <Josie1> Np
[11:40] <mwe> walls: if the iso sum matched the CD will be fine unless it failed
[11:40] <mwe> Jordan_U: there isn't a check on boot for the md5 sum
[11:40] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, what am i looking for?
[11:40] <Jordan_U> walls, Easiest thing to do would be to boot from the CD and use the "check CD integrity" option
[11:40] <sixtyeight> Here's an odd question: Is there a way to stop "Alt+left mouse click" from grabbing a window and moving it?
[11:40] <Kraftwerk112> Somehow DVD's don't mount anymore in 7.04
[11:40] <Seoke> I'm getting ImportError: No module named gtk when I try to update to 7.04
[11:41] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : well, boot up failsafe, and edit /etc/X/xorg.conf
[11:41] <Jordan_U> mwe, What would yo call the "check CD integrity" option?
[11:41] <Seoke> sixtyeight, Administration->Mouse
[11:41] <bad_cables> how do i get more apps to install in synaptic... i need a list of more sources for my sources.lst
[11:41] <blind> while using x11vnc, people that connect to me can only see in 16-bit color.... how can i fix this?
[11:41] <walls> yer but i just wanted to clarify officially that u cd also cksum the cd after u burn it cos there is an md5sum txt file on there
[11:41] <bad_cables> when i look for apps to install, they arent there
[11:41] <mwe> Jordan_U: well in that case I'm not up to date. sorry
[11:41] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : even if you had a gui, you still have to get to the command line
[11:41] <walls> jordan im right yer?
[11:41] <velko> Kraftwerk112, does the corresponding line in /etc/fstab contain the word "udf" or just "iso9660"?
[11:41] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, what do i need to edit?
[11:42] <mwe> Jordan_U: there was no such option last I booted an ubuntu cd
[11:42] <Jordan_U> bad_cables, You don't want to just go adding random repositories to your sources.list, that is a good way to screw up your machine
[11:42] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, im looking at my xorg.conf, what do i need to change
[11:42] <Seoke> I'm getting ImportError: No module named gtk when I try to update to 7.04 any ideas what it might be?
[11:42] <Gnontghol> Ubuntu fails to find the firmware of a driver at boot when the driver is compiled in the kernel (not as a module). I have tryed to copy it into the initrd but I get the same errors: File not found.
[11:42] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : hang on
[11:42] <mwe> Jordan_U: usually an md5sum is for a downloaded file
[11:42] <hamza> guys help me out..ive been facing a lot of problem with my ubuntu 7.04....the boot is very slow...there no splash screen...the sound is not present sometimes..and it rarely connects to my wlan
[11:42] <Jordan_U> Gnontghol, bcm43xx ?
[11:42] <bad_cables> Jordan_U, is there a list of stable apps?
[11:43] <Jordan_U> !repositories | bad_cables
[11:43] <ubotu> bad_cables: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:43] <walls> basically the ms5sumtxt file does not match the iso file on hd, so is that right in saying it was not burned correctly?
[11:44] <fblade1987> Guys anyone fancy just giving me a hand please? I Just downloaded Amsn today and it says i need to download TLS what is it and how do i get and install it?
[11:44] <zilliot> ubuntu !
[11:44] <Seoke> sixtyeight, Odd well I dont know what to tell you because I just changed mine.  Theres an option somewhere in preferences that allows you to change if you need to hold down alt to move the window
[11:44] <georgy28> !ops
[11:44] <Seoke> exit
[11:44] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:44] <radioman> ;}
[11:44] <idefix> ! foobillard
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foobillard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <sixtyeight> Seoke: Ahhh, I found it. It is under the "Window" preferences. Thanks!
[11:44] <MattJ> fblade1987, you should probably install amsn from the Ubuntu repository
[11:44] <Gnontghol> Jordan_U: ipw2200
[11:44] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : do this, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log   and look for things that have EE beside them, you have find those problems in you /etc/X/xorg.conf
[11:45] <hamza> guys help me out..ive been facing a lot of problem with my ubuntu 7.04....the boot is very slow...there no splash screen...the sound is not present sometimes..and it rarely connects to my wlan
[11:45] <jevangelo> how do i clear a package from resuming installation whenever i use apt-get install
[11:45] <MattJ> jevangelo, apt-get remove it
[11:45] <fblade1987> MattJ i did it, downloads an executes just fine, its when i try and login it says amsn need tls downloading i do and it errors?
[11:45] <bad_cables> !repositories
[11:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:46] <Jordan_U> jevangelo, What is the exact issue?
[11:46] <Gnontghol> Jordan_U: But I dont think that is relevant, the problem is not with the driver
[11:46] <bad_cables> !EasySource
[11:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:46] <mwe> walls: appearently a 'check cd integrity' option has been added since last I booted an ubuntu cd so it probably matches the entire structere or should
[11:46] <rxKaffee> when a system has multiple alternate repositorys listed, is there any way to track which repository a given package is from?
[11:47] <jevangelo> im installing a server and slocate keeps hanging some processes each time i use apt-get to install other programs
[11:47] <MattJ> fblade1987, I think I found the answer
[11:47] <jevangelo> im trying to get it out of the way so it doesnt come back and try to resume the next time i use apt-get
[11:47] <hamzzz> HELP ...cant i connect to my wireless network in ubuntu in the same way as windows??..
[11:47] <MattJ> fblade1987, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1091856&postcount=4
[11:48] <mwe> !wifi | hamzzz
[11:48] <mikey2> !customization
[11:48] <hamzzz> wats !wifi
[11:48] <danya_> guys how can I know if im on firefox32 or 64 ?
[11:48] <ubotu> hamzzz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <hamzzz> mwe : wats !wifi
[11:49] <Jordan_U> hamzzz, If your card is supported just connect to a wireless network with the applet in the top right corner of the screen
[11:49] <fblade1987> no still seems to error saying cant get it
[11:49] <Jordan_U> hamzzz, It is a message to our bot to tell you about the wireless documentation
[11:49] <mwe> hamzzz: ! causes the channel bot to speak. see ubotus comment
[11:50] <MattJ> fblade1987, you edited the file? and restarted aMSN?
[11:50] <hamzzz> jordan_U : rite now im connected..but in the network tool its say "unknown interface (rda1)"is this ok?
[11:50] <Ia2> hi everyone, does someone have any suggestions on the following? When I log out I get a blank screen.
[11:50] <timewriter> hi
[11:50] <fblade1987> yeah just says cant download it
[11:50] <timewriter> is there a way to use aol on ubuntu ?
[11:50] <hamzzz> and it doesnt connect automatically
[11:51] <Jordan_U> timewriter, Like AIM?
[11:51] <Skrypt> Can someone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3030313#post3030313
[11:51] <MattJ> Ia2, and the computer is frozen?
[11:51] <timewriter> no
[11:51] <timewriter> like aol broadband
[11:51] <timewriter> to use their network
[11:51] <Ia2> yes, its frozen
[11:51] <timewriter> their proxies
[11:51] <Jordan_U> timewriter, I would expect you would just connect to the router like anything else
[11:52] <Jordan_U> timewriter, *modem
[11:52] <MattJ> Ia2, do you have an ATI card with the ATI drivers?
[11:52] <timewriter> but i was wondering
[11:52] <timewriter> if i have more pc`s
[11:52] <timewriter> and just a modem
[11:52] <hamzzz> jordan_U : rite now im connected..but in the network tool its say "unknown interface (rda1)"is this ok?
[11:52] <timewriter> i can use aol for broadband
[11:52] <Jordan_U> timewriter, You need to get a router if you have multiple PC's and one modem
[11:52] <PriceChild> timewriter, do you have a usb modem?
[11:53] <timewriter> nope
[11:53] <PriceChild> timewriter, or an ethernet one?
[11:53] <IdleOne> is there a "kid's Ubuntu" for like 5 to 10 year olds?
[11:53] <timewriter> ethernet
[11:53] <Jordan_U> hamzzz, You are connected wirelessly?
[11:53] <timewriter> i found penggy
[11:53] <timewriter> no
[11:53] <MattJ> IdleOne, maybe Edubuntu
[11:53] <PriceChild> timewriter, is it an "always on", or does it require using the software on your windows machine to connect?
[11:53] <timewriter> tv cable
[11:53] <Jordan_U> IdleOne, Sort of, there is Edubuntu
[11:53] <timewriter> always on
[11:53] <PriceChild> timewriter, it will work fine.
[11:53] <Ia2> MattJ, yes I have an ATI card, and had to enable the restricted driver
[11:53] <walls> ne luck Jordan_U?
[11:53] <hamzzz> yes jordan_U but it hardly connects
[11:53] <PriceChild> timewriter, don't worry :)
[11:53] <thebigham> how come when a new window is opened, it stays behind the current, how can i bring it to the front by default??
[11:53] <PriceChild> timewriter, use the live cd to check though ;)
[11:53] <PriceChild> thebigham, using beryl?
[11:53] <thebigham> yea
[11:53] <IdleOne> ty MattJ and Jordan_U  I'll check it out
[11:53] <MattJ> Ia2, aha, that could be the problem (I had the same one)
[11:53] <Jordan_U> walls, Havn't found my Feisty CD yet :)
[11:54] <timewriter> to check what ?
[11:54] <thebigham> and also how i install the themes i downloaded from beryl website
[11:54] <MattJ> Ia2, do you use the accelerated 3D at all?
[11:54] <x89x> how do i make gnome show hda1 to the side pane ??
[11:55] <timewriter> what is aolserver4 ?
[11:55] <Ia2> MattJ, Not sure if it's being used
[11:55] <astro76> x89x, add a bookmark to where it's mounted
[11:55] <Ia2> mattJ, How can I check for that
[11:55] <hamzzz> jordan_U : i only have a wireless connection which i use for the internet
[11:56] <x89x> astro ??
[11:56] <astro76> x89x, in the file browser, bookmarks>add bookmark
[11:56] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang I got one (EE) so far, this is a long list
[11:56] <timewriter> i found what i need , it is penggy
[11:56] <timewriter> hard to config tho
[11:56] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : ya I know, what was the EE?
[11:57] <astro76> x89x, whatever you bookmark shows in Places
[11:57] <ryanakca> hmm.. are there any advantages at running amd64 over i386? (I know about some of the proprietary software not running, I can just set up a chroot for that.)
[11:57] <Jordan_U> walls, it's there, it's actually called "check CD for defects"
[11:57] <k31th> guys what do you do for IPODS in ubuntu
[11:57] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang "AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[11:57] <MattJ> Ia2, well, it's a bit of a hack, but I disable it by enabling the Composite extension in xorg.conf (this will cause the driver to disable fast 3D support though)
[11:58] <Ia2> MattJ, ok I'll try that
[11:58] <k31th> !ipod
[11:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[11:58] <MattJ> Ia2, it's Composite "Enable" I think
[11:58] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : are you, or did you try to enable 3d rendering? or even beryl?
[11:58] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, thats the only one
[11:58] <pharsmoth> hey people im getting this weird message sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[11:58] <pharsmoth> samba is installed, not sure what it means but cant seem to share anything
[11:58] <k31th> !rockbox
[11:58] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[11:58] <RkyRaccoon> bashbang, no
[11:58] <MattJ> Ia2, and you need to restart for it to take effect
[11:58] <acke_> !ftpserver
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <Ia2> MattJ, ok thanks
[11:59] <ryanakca> !amd64
[11:59] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[11:59] <NixMan> could a few people make sure this tutorial/script works ok? http://techystuff.info/?p=64
[11:59] <acke_> i need an extremly easy to configure ftp server for lan use. any suggestions?
[11:59] <pharsmoth> !samba
[11:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:00] <\Ben> might ditch the usb wlan and try pcmcia :P
[12:00] <MajorPayne> If I chmod 750 to /etc/skel/ will home directorys created after that have 750 permissions?
[12:00] <BashBang> RkyRaccoon : k, near the top of your /etc/X/xorg.conf file there is and entry that says     load dri   and    load glx   comment those to lines out and try again
[12:00] <x89x> hey
[12:01] <x89x> anyone got the via deltachrome drivers ??
[12:01] <mneptok> x89x: they are built in


[00:45] <andyzweb> _guitarman_: I am running into those troubles with jack as well
[00:47] <andyzweb> only getting those errors with the realtime kernel
[00:49] <andyzweb> and no I am not -_-
[00:49] <andyzweb> *now
[00:57] <_guitarman_> andyzweb: is that because you rebooted?
[00:58] <_guitarman_> andyzweb: yes, mine works now
[01:04] <andyzweb> _guitarman_: yeah that's all I did.
[01:04] <andyzweb> _guitarman_: have you tried starting and stopping jack and seeing if it still works?
[01:04] <_guitarman_> will do
[01:05] <andyzweb> also in in Ardour are all the denormal handling options disabled or is that just me?
[01:05] <_guitarman_> its working for me now andyzweb
[01:06] <_guitarman_> my system is now a real unclean mess though... i've installed kxstudio, so i can't vouch at this point how it is in ubuntustudio exactly since its now installed falk's stuff
[01:07] <_guitarman_> the pulseaudio to jack bridge is just awesome this solves a lot of problems for linux podcasters
[01:07] <_guitarman_> and of course for people who want to grab audio from vieos etc
[01:08] <andyzweb> yeah what is kxstudio? and are you running 10.04?
[01:08] <_guitarman_> yes 10.04
[01:08] <_guitarman_> kxstudio is based on ubuntu 10.04
[01:08] <_guitarman_> i was just tring it out so i could blog about it
[01:08] <_guitarman_> it uses all the cutting edge stuff
[01:08] <_guitarman_> jack2
[01:08] <_guitarman_> ladish
[01:08] <_guitarman_> the vst stuff
[01:09] <_guitarman_> so its not as stable
[01:09] <_guitarman_> based on kde
[01:09] <_guitarman_> for the desktop environment
[01:09] <_guitarman_> instead of gnome.
[01:09] <_guitarman_> its a nice setup, jack is on by default when it boots i believe
[01:09] <persia> Many of the technologies being previewed in kxstudio will appear in 10.10
[01:09] <_guitarman_> yeah, i think thats going to be a really killer release for ubuntustudio
[01:10] <_guitarman_> this stuff should have stabalized a bit more by then
[01:10] <_guitarman_> although so far it hasn't been terribly crashy
[01:11] <andyzweb> Yeah. I have given up on getting UbuntuStudio to work fully on my macbook for now.
[01:12] <andyzweb> I am playing with my other PC instead.
[01:13] <andyzweb> let me check something real quick
[01:19] <andyzweb> yeah, I get 5.8ms latency 4 in 2 out with the built in hardware on my macbook pro when @ 44.1 24-bit
[01:19] <andyzweb> I want to be able to get the same (or hopefully better) with UbuntuStudio on the same machine
[01:23] <_guitarman_> is the hardware supported?
[01:36] <andyzweb> welp...the internal sound card is the intel-HDA thing. which is very...difficult
[08:03] <jussi> Ive asked this guy to join here:
[08:03] <jussi> [09:28:09] <macinnisrr> I have a distro for beta release which contains more current versions (and more convenient scripts) of software, as well as realtime kernels with PAE support. I can package quite well, but have no idea how to make a source package or contribute upstream. How can I help?
[08:24] <andyzweb> abogani: what is the difference between the linux-rt linux-realtime and linux-lowlatency kernels in 10.04?
[08:26] <abogani> andyzweb: -lowlatency use the same source of -generic one but a more aggressive configuration for reduce latency. -rt and -realtime use PREEMPT_RT patchset (that is linux realtime support) but the former is based on Ubuntu kernel source instead the later is based on the vanilla one (aka kernel.org).
[08:30] <andyzweb> abogani: ok I see. In the kernel.org rt project there are no patches for 2.6.32 was there no realtime kernel for that version?
[08:31] <abogani> andyzweb: No. It is the reason of -lowlatency kernel.
[08:34] <andyzweb> so -lowlatency just uses the Preemptable Kernel instead of the Voluntary Preemption which is enabled in -generic
[08:35] <abogani> andyzweb: That is one of the config changes.
[08:36] <andyzweb> abogani: without bothering you anymore, is there a diff or list of the config differences for them?
[08:37] <abogani> andyzweb: What is the reason of that request?
[08:38] <persia> abogani: Do we have word of -rt for 2.6.35 yet, or is that still for discussion?
[08:39] <andyzweb> abogani: just trying to grow my knowledge of kernel development and maintenance
[08:39] <abogani> persia: Will be 2.6.35 the final kernel version for Lucid?
[08:39] <abogani> Maverick
[08:39] <persia> Dunno.  it's the announced version from UDS, at least.
[08:39] <persia> -kernel would have more details though.
[08:42] <abogani> persia: At the moment the latest upstream rt release is 2.6.33. they (upstream) don't seem have intention to upgrade soon so we can: 1) stick on 2.6.33 2) forward port it on 2.6.35 (like I done for Intrepid and Jaunty).
[08:44] <persia> Forward-port is likely to be most compatible, of course.  There may be laggard topic branches that need to be supported.
[08:44] <abogani> andyzweb: Configurations changed in -lowlatency kernel flavour:
[08:44] <abogani> # CONFIG_NO_HZ is not set
[08:44] <abogani> CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
[08:44] <abogani> CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
[08:44] <abogani> CONFIG_HZ=1000
[08:44] <abogani> CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y
[08:44] <abogani> CONFIG_SLAB=y
[08:44] <abogani> # CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL is not set
[08:44] <abogani> andyzweb: ^^
[08:45] <persia> andyzweb: The other trick is that all the kernels install the config to /boot on install, so you can run diff between arbitrary flavours.
[08:45] <andyzweb> abogani: many thanks!
[08:47] <abogani> andyzweb: You are welcome!
[08:50] <andyzweb> my usefulness will increase once I write my guide for installing UbuntuStudio 10.04 on a MacBook Pro 5,3.
[09:00] <abogani> persia: Frankly I think that the only one viable solution to -rt painful maintenance is to "adopt" a more tuned generic based kernel kernel like -preempt or -lowlatency. Then put it into main and use as default kernel for Studio. In this way we can let -rt for only people that really needs it. And avoid a lot of criticism (from community) to me.
[09:02] <persia> Oh, I agree entirely.  I'd like to have -rt in the archives, but I don't think it ought be default for Studio until it hits mainline: it's too high a volume of bug reports for the available maintenance team.
[10:49] <falktx> so?
[10:56] <jussi> hi falktx
[10:57] <jussi> youll need to talk to the packaging lads, perhaps persia can help
[10:58] <persia> With which?
[10:58] <falktx> backport packages to lucid
[10:58] <falktx> maybe through an ubuntustudio ppa
[11:00] <persia> I only know the official process: file a bug against the backports project, get three people to test, wait for it to be published.  This doesn't work for libraries at all.
[11:00] <persia> ScottL was talking with jdong about some potential process for more complex stuff, but I don't know the details.
[11:00] <persia> !backports
[11:00] <persia> That page should detail the official process, for some more detail.
[11:01] <persia> Given timezones, ScottL probably won't be around for a few hours yet.
[11:05] <falktx> that what i don't like about it
[11:05] <falktx> I have to wait for other people to review it
[11:06] <falktx> and that can take a really long time
[11:06] <falktx> upload to a ppa is quick
[11:07] <falktx> I have done this before so I already know how this works
[11:07] <falktx> (check the 'zynadd' package)
[11:08] <falktx> aren't you guys interested on a ubuntustudio ppa?
[11:09] <persia> There is one.  We just actively don't recommend it to users.
[11:10] <persia> Basically, anything that is going to get branded as part of what we do needs peer review anyway (even if just between each other).
[11:10] <persia> And the backports guys tend to be friendly to known groups.
[11:11] <persia> That's why I suggest waiting for ScottL: he has started a discussion to do something like upload to a PPA, and have that end up in backports for our stuff.  I just don't know the details, and it's not a complete process yet, so the documentation is lacking.
[11:11] <falktx> ok, that sound good
[11:12] <falktx> i'll be around here today
[11:12] <falktx> when will he come?
[11:15] <persia> He usually has some time early his morning, so near the end of the day UTC.  Worst case, he'll get the message in backscroll.
[11:24] <falktx> just one super-dumb question - how do i change irc text color ?
[11:25] <falktx> sometime ppl talk in red
[11:26] <persia> It's usually something in your client configuration.  Try looking for a Preferences menu or submenu, and see if there is a colours choice.  If you use a CLI IRC client, it's probably some /SET magic.
[11:26] <falktx> i use konversation
[11:28] <persia> I don't know for konversation.  With Quassel it's Settings....Configure Quassel...Chat view
[11:28] <persia> jussi: Do you remember where to configure that in konversation?
[11:29] <falktx> i saw it, custom colors
[11:29] <falktx> but how to enable it while typing?
[11:29] <jussi> Im sorry, been using quassel for too long
[11:29] <falktx> it's ok
[11:30] <persia> How do you mean?  To control what colors you send?  Lots of folks won't see that, because they show the colors client-side.
[11:30] <falktx> it's not like i need that
[11:31] <jussi> pretty much all of ubuntu channels have colour restrictions set also
[11:35] <astraljava> irssi FTW!!
[12:31]  * jussi gags astraljava
[14:41] <falktx> hi Scott
[14:42] <falktx> i was discussing with some guys here about the ubuntustudio ppa
[14:42] <falktx> to get a way to upload to that ppa, "auto-review", and send to backports if it's good enough
[14:43] <rlameiro> falktx: boas, por aqui :D
[14:44] <falktx> ya, ola
[14:44] <falktx> fui um dia pesquizar umas cenas...
[14:44] <falktx> e encontrei ...
[14:44] <rlameiro> falktx: i finished reading the channel logs, ScottL is in a trip of about 3 days
[14:44] <rlameiro> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/05/
[14:45] <rlameiro> we had a meeting last sunday and we talked about the backports issue, go into there and you can look at it
[14:45] <rlameiro> also, WELCOME MAN!!!!!
[14:45] <falktx> nice to be here
[14:46] <falktx> ja tou no estágio, por isso ja tenho net o dia todo
[14:46] <falktx> até as 6h30
[14:46] <falktx> which is the specific log date i should check ? (sunday...)
[14:47] <rlameiro> 16
[14:47] <rlameiro> sorry folks, we are both from Portugal :D
[14:49] <falktx> i'm reading the logs...
[14:49] <falktx> what do you guys think about kxstudio?
[14:49] <falktx> does it suck, or is it a good thing?
[14:56] <falktx> ok
[14:56] <rlameiro> falktx: i dont like so much kde, its a personal question, but kxstudio is a very nice build and has very neat features
[14:57] <rlameiro> some things are planned to be on the next release, like jack2, for instance
[14:57] <falktx> everything could be ported to ubuntustudio
[14:57] <falktx> i saw the interest on pulse-jack
[14:57] <rlameiro> well, not everything
[14:58] <rlameiro> to get into ubuntustudio, the packages must be on the ubuntu repos
[14:58] <falktx> i decided to stick with lucid for at least a year
[14:58] <rlameiro> and for that they must get through the REVU process, maybe persia can help you in there
[14:58] <falktx> so I won't work for maverick
[14:59] <falktx> (always persia)
[14:59] <rlameiro> :D
[14:59] <falktx> the thing is:
[14:59] <falktx> i'll keep working on lucid
[14:59] <rlameiro> well he is a MOTU, so he can guide in there
[14:59] <falktx> whatever that thing is going to ubuntu or not, I don't think it's my job
[15:00] <falktx> i have many packages in revu
[15:00] <falktx> the only one that has been accepted is "zynadd"
[15:01] <falktx> dpkg -s zynadd | tail -n 1
[15:01] <rlameiro> well i dont know about that, but revu seems a very hard process to go through
[15:01] <falktx> _it's cool_
[15:01] <falktx> revu is all about waiting, i think
[15:01] <falktx> ppl are busy, i get it
[15:01] <rlameiro> well yea, but there are a lot of things to correct
[15:02] <rlameiro> well , time to give lesson
[15:02] <rlameiro> be back later
[15:02] <falktx> ok
[15:02] <falktx> bye
[15:02]  * rlameiro AFK
[15:04] <falktx> i think ubuntustudio should have something like this:
[15:04] <falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/screenshots/kcm_audio1.png
[15:04] <falktx> i did it for kxstudio, and it's very handy
[15:06] <rlameiro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ControlsRedesign falktx
[15:07] <falktx> @rlameiro: weren't going to give a class
[15:08] <falktx> ?
[15:09] <falktx> i can easily do that app in 3 weeks
[15:09] <falktx> using pyqt
[15:09] <falktx> just need to leave everything for later, which i might not do...
[15:10] <falktx> i would change some stuff though
[15:10] <falktx> shouldn't wireless be a task of networkmanager ?
[15:10] <falktx> nm-applet ?
[15:20] <persia> Historically we've used gnome-network in preference to network-manager, as it doesn't have a dynamic behaviour, so it's easier to predict system load.
[15:20] <falktx> so that's the reason
[15:21] <falktx> is networkmanager included in the dvd?
[15:22] <falktx> it should
[15:22] <persia> I don't think so.  There's a bug in lucid that it doesn't work at all, but that's different.
[15:22] <persia> Why, if it's considered to offer a degraded experience?
[15:22] <falktx> i sometimes use nm-applet even in kde
[15:23] <persia> It's *wonderful* for usecases that don't run into issues with a bit of extra latency once in a while, but this doesn't tend to be that use case.
[15:23] <falktx> it never failed me, and kde has some minor probs with networks
[15:23] <persia> It's not a reliability issue: it's a predictability issue.  With n-m, there exists no way to know "when" n-m will decide to consume processing resources.
[15:24] <persia> So one can't safely e.g. push one's machine near the limit in a performance.
[15:24] <falktx> i understand
[16:10] <rlameiro> persia: could this bug be a packaging issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/581786
[16:25] <persia> rlameiro: It might be, but it might also be an accidental upstream release artifact creation bug.
[16:26] <persia> Check the debian package to see if the defaults are different.  Also, check to see if there is a config file in the upstream release tarball.
[16:26] <persia> It can be fixed in packaging, but it's worth tracking down the source of those values, and fixing it there so that we don't have to readjust every time we touch the package.
[16:32] <rlameiro> persia: the comments said that in ardour forum this issue was on the ubuntu package
[16:33] <persia> Sure, but do we know that it isn't also in the Debian packaging?  How about the upstream release tarball?
[16:34] <persia> That nobody ever encountered it there doesn't help us to know: maybe the Debian users all modify the configuration.  Maybe nobody actually uses the usptream example file.
[16:34] <rlameiro> well i will try to look into it later
[16:34] <persia> Thanks.  If it's really just an issue in Ubuntu, we'll want to check why it exists (maybe there's a bug in each direction, and it needs some other solution), and then just sync with Debian.
[17:49] <falktx> you're here too guitarm1n ?
[17:49] <falktx> ha
[18:03] <_guitarman_> yes - i am everywhere falktx ... rlameiro recruited me for the meeting to suggest some things
[18:03] <_guitarman_> since i use the tools in the podcast etc
[18:03] <_guitarman_> and for music