[15:54] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: doesnt make sense you cant install ubuntu...
[15:54] <ducasse> brym: if you fail to get it working, consider a clean install. or at least test from live usb.
[15:54] <lfrlucas> I want to restore to original packages of ubuntu server
[15:54] <ducasse> curlyears: is your pc certified for any windows version? if so, which?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: something must block the ubuntu setup..
[15:54] <curlyears> apparently my system won't bopot from a USB Thumb.  the BIOS lists as possible boot devices: USB_HDD, USB-FD, USB-LS120 etc.  None of the resul;t in a boot fropm the thumb
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: did you F12 to uefi boot your usb?
[15:55] <curlyears> ducssa:  I doubt it.  It was built from a barbones kit from TigerDirect
[15:56] <curlyears> \I need to  F12?
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you could try
[15:56] <philippA_> Hi Guys, getting a weired message:   Could NOT find CURL (missing: CURL_LIBRARY CURL_INCLUDE_DIR)   but latest version of curl is installed. Any idea?
[15:57] <curlyears> back again   ~"Whistle while you work, we whistlwe while we work"!~
[15:59] <ducasse> philippA_: you probably need one of the libcurl packages.
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> lfrlucas: try #ubuntu-server or the ubuntu recoverymode==>fix broken packages
[16:00] <brym> ducasse: ok, iso is installing. fingers crossed!
[16:01] <jay321> i d/l a deb pkg from launchpad.net, when trying to install said dependency problems, how can i find the other pkgs?
[16:02] <ducasse> jay321: use gdebi or 'apt install ./package.deb'
[16:03] <jay321> it is not on network
[16:04] <jay321> i am searching launchpad.net, and copying over the dependency deb packages
[16:04] <dax> both of those work with local files
[16:05] <OerHeks> jay321, use " apt-get install -f " to fix dependencies
[16:07] <EldonMcGuinness> lotuspsychje: Just seen a way to fix it in FF: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[16:07] <jay321> it removed the package i was trying to install
[16:08] <EldonMcGuinness> If you go to that site you can tell it to always allow mic, video, etc on individual sites.
[16:08] <EldonMcGuinness> then refresh the page and it works
[16:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i installed irssi
[16:09] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i guess i just run it? :)
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> EldonMcGuinness: great you got it solved!
[16:09] <EldonMcGuinness> yup, a really odd issue though. I wonder why that settings box is greyed out.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> EldonMcGuinness: probable some weird old adobe thing
[16:10] <EldonMcGuinness> It is sad that Adobe is still buggy on linux after all these years
[16:10] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> when i typed irssi it removed all my previous terminal text
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: open a new terminal tab if you wish to do other tings
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> was trying to fetch previous commands
[16:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> upkey
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> !manual | BrAsS_mOnKeY = interesting here
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and scroll up to see but it was gone. :)
[16:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ty lotuspsychje :)
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> Now if I could just get ICQ to quit telling me about verifying my account today I will be happy! :D
[16:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> icq lol :)
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> I swear there are two insane koalas in charge at that place.
[16:13] <EldonMcGuinness> yea still have my old number from when I was a kid
[16:13] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i remember that from 90s :D
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> you must have a small number :D
[16:14] <EldonMcGuinness> 8 digits
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i remember when I added accounts, the number would be higher
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wow
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wonder if I can still use my old
[16:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> that'd be neat
[16:14] <EldonMcGuinness> yea heh
[16:15] <EldonMcGuinness> They keep IMing me telling me I need to add an SMS number to my account, but the only sms I have is google voice and it will not take the number.
[16:15] <EldonMcGuinness> I get about 8 IMs a day about it from them
[16:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> istnt it "uh oh" ?
[16:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> I have emailed them OVER and OVER they just keep asking me for my provider name etc.
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> buffoons I tells ya
[16:16] <OerHeks> EldonMcGuinness, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[16:16] <ekool> exit
[16:16] <rantic> Hi everyone, with the introduction of ubuntu server 16.04, if I choose to setup a LAMP stack. What is the difference between install packages such as php, php-xml,php-gd and php7.0,php7.0-xml etc?
[16:16] <EldonMcGuinness> very true OerHeks, I'll shut up now :D
[16:16] <rantic> it appears the php package is already at php 7.x anyways
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> too bad we can talk off topic D
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:17] <OerHeks> rantic, more a Q for #ubuntu-server, or time to read the server docs
[16:17] <EldonMcGuinness> ill just there now
[16:17] <dax> BrAsS_mOnKeY: not here. This is support only.
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :D
[16:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> we can't*
[16:17] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[16:17] <dax> rantic: php depends on the current-supported version of php, so php7.0
[16:17] <dax> rantic: i.e., there's no effective difference
[16:17] <k1l> rantic: they are metapackages and link to the same. they were different when php7 was not the standard
[16:17] <rantic> OerHeks: Alright thanks
[16:18] <rantic> dax: So if I installed php7.0 right now ... even if Ubuntu moved to php8, I'd still be grabbing updates (until they stop) for 7?
[16:18] <rantic> dax: Where as if I use php packages, I'll at some point automatically be upgraded to 8?
[16:18] <dax> rantic: until Ubuntu stops packaging it, yes
[16:18] <ice9> sometimes I get notification about "important software updates available...."  however I'm disabling automatic check for updates, so what's going on?
[16:18] <dax> rantic: yes
[16:18] <rantic> dax: Ah OK thanks, that makes sense
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax uhmm not so sure
[16:19] <dax> sebsebseb: that's nice
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax I think PHP 7 would stay as that, only security updates if anything
[16:19] <sebsebseb> rantic: dax later version of Ubuntu PHP 8
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ice9: its how 16.04 notifies now
[16:19] <dax> sebsebseb: php7.0 will stay 7.0. php will not
[16:19] <dax> (which is what I just said)
[16:20] <ice9> lotuspsychje: so it force checking even if that option is disabled? that's abug
[16:20] <dax> unless you're talking about within releases, not between releases, which we're not
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> ice9: i dont think that would count as a bug, as the user is supposed to update at one time right
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ice9: sudo apt update now also notifies there are new updates available
[16:25] <hubot__> how to run "curl" command when i am on windows?
[16:26] <freelancerbob> i have problem with flickering external monitor on my Thinkpad t430
[16:26] <freelancerbob> any help ?
[16:27] <freelancerbob> i am using lubuntu v16
[16:27] <tgm4883> hubot__: that sounds like a question for a windows room
[16:27] <sruli> i am trying to run a application in terminal and get an error "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found" i checked and i do have libstdc++.so.6 installed, how can i resolve this?
[16:27] <hubot__> tgm4883: routed thanks
[16:27] <curlyears> \OK...  I'm thinking of ordering new M/B.  what do you guys think of this one:
[16:28] <freelancerbob> monitor works well with windows7 but not with lubuntu
[16:28] <curlyears> MSI 970 Gaming ATX Motherboard - AMD 970 Chipset, PCIe 2.0 x16, SATA III 6Gb/s, 8-Channel Audio, CrossFireX Ready, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN
[16:28] <curlyears> sany comments or experience with this m/b?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: your gonna buy a new mobo because you cant find secureboot?
[16:28] <tgm4883> curlyears: seems like a lot of work for me to go look that up when you don't just post a link
[16:29] <k1l> curlyears: did you boot without hdd?
[16:29] <k1l> curlyears: did you try to boot without the secureboot feature in bios? and in legacy mode?
[16:29] <ducasse> curlyears: if the mobo is certified for windows 7, 8 or 8.1, it is a *requirement* that secure boot can be disabled.
[16:30] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: I called my local hardware tech,  We d4termined that it was likely a flakey M/B leading to all these ofdd problems.  It'd cosrt $60 for them to run an overnight diagnostic on it, and that's almmost the cost of a neww M/B
[16:31] <curlyears> and then, I have a quad core processor IJswapped with an 8 core unit, so I could mount that on the old motherboard, and begin building a slightly less meaty second computer around it, so it's not a total loss
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you built this machine yourself?
[16:31] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: yes, it's based on a barebones kit I bought from tigerdirect last August
[16:32] <tgm4883> curlyears: I've got the 970A-G46
[16:32] <curlyears> what isit?
[16:32] <tgm4883> not sure if that's what you are looking at or not
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: i suggest you doublecheck everything over at ##hardware
[16:32] <freelancerbob> i have problem with flickering external monitor on my Thinkpad t430
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: xrandr --auto does anything?
[16:33] <curlyears> tgm4883: MSI 970 GAMING ATX tgm4883:
[16:33] <hubot__> is there any way to use ssh from browser?
[16:33] <cabbage_hands> Is there a way to extract text from X11 GUIs?
[16:33] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: nothing still same
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: is your external screen 'mirrored' in screen settings?
[16:34] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: how do you mean, "check everything?"  And I'm asking here to see if anyone has any experience or information about this system board
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: this is ubuntu support here, not hardware discussion
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: something blocks the install for ubuntu, you need to find why
[16:35] <curlyears> lotus:  yes, and I am asking of anyone has tried to run ubuntu on this MB...that is an ubuntu question, not a #hardware question\
[16:36] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: it was mirrored, now is not mirrored and still same
[16:36] <tgm4883> curlyears: first, wrong channel. Second, a quick google search suggests there is a problem (with a workaround) with the USB 3.0 ports and linux
[16:36] <hidden> E: Package 'php5-dev' has no installation candidate :/
[16:36] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: I spent 9 hours yesterday, and 4 hours so far today, TRYING to find what is blocking it, with no j oy
[16:36] <tgm4883> hidden: 16.04?
[16:36] <hidden> yeah
[16:37] <hidden> tgm4883
[16:37] <teward> hidden: what Ubuntu are you running?  If 16.04, it's php7.0-dev
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: what kind of graphics card and driver version?
[16:37] <hidden> 16.04
[16:37] <tgm4883> hidden: 16.04 has php7
[16:37] <teward> hidden: php5 is no longer available, replaced by php7.0
[16:37] <hidden> ok thanks
[16:37] <ducasse> curlyears: i repeat: if the mobo is certified for windows 7, 8 or 8.1, it is a *requirement* that secure boot can be disabled.
[16:37] <curlyears> \I'm nnot using USB3 ports\
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you told us you cant boot from usb neither?
[16:38] <curlyears> ducasse:  wonderful.  And just how do I determine if this M/B carries such a certification?
[16:38] <ducasse> curlyears: look at the box, manual or manufacturers site.
[16:38] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: that is correct
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: my bet would be wrong hardware built, or uefi blocking the usb install
[16:39] <BluesKaj> boot sequnce in the uefi/bios ?
[16:39] <ducasse> curlyears: many uefi implementations are buggy, you could look for an update.
[16:40] <squinty> http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-970a-g46-atx-am3-970-57-67762-1257.htm    Cons No hard option to select  boot from an UEFI image or a MBR sector No Secure Boot Option
[16:40] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> i once saw 1 machine that have a weird intel blocking setting in bios that prevented install of ubuntu
[16:41] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: it is thinkpad t430.
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: did this work on other ubuntu versions before?
[16:41] <tgm4883> squinty: that isn't the motherboard he's looking at
[16:41] <squinty> curlyears, ^^
[16:41] <Apocope> I'm trying to use Icinga under xenial. I install it and go to $SERVER/icinga and the menu on the left is visible and then disapears. Same thing if I do $SERVER/icinga/menu.html.
[16:41] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i have not try , i installed newest version 16.0
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: how is the second screen connected? vga/hdmi?
[16:42] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: vga
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: can you try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out/plug in your second screen?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: how did you install icinga? wich ubuntu version?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> oh xenial nvm
[16:44] <squinty> tgm4883, <curlyears> tgm4883: MSI 970 GAMING ATX
[16:44] <tgm4883> squinty: which isn't what you posted
[16:45] <tgm4883> squinty: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130790
[16:45] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: Yes, xenial. And I installed it via 'apt install icinga'
[16:45] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: still same
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: perhaps the #icinga channel might know more on that error?
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: getting any errors on the tail?
[16:47] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: I'll take a look.
[16:47] <curlyears> OK.  Nowhere in the /B manual is there any mention  o0f "certification for Windows" or any phrase which could be interoreted to mwean same.  So I would suppose it ISAN'T so certified
[16:47] <Hejkki> hola. I just started installing ubuntu-gnome 16.04 and it wont progress.... I used 'try ubuntu gnome' and from there i started the installation
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: if its really xenial related, consider a !bug perhaps?
[16:47] <curlyears> \a\/B\M/B\
[16:48] <Hejkki> i am in the first stage where i will select wether i want to get updates during the setup
[16:48] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: only warnings
[16:48] <Hejkki> and i have push the continue button or whatever it is in finnish
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: can you pastebin please?
[16:48] <Hejkki> can i somehow see what went wrong
[16:48] <Apocope> lotuspsychje: Yeah. I'll poke at it a bit to see if I can find where the error came from.
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> Apocope: great
[16:50] <ducasse> curlyears: actually, almost all mobos are certified. but are there any available firmware updates?
[16:50] <curlyears> be back in a bit
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you sure your sata cables are connected good?
[16:52] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ee/p/DQeoi
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok, nothing screen related there, have you tried another vga cable?
[16:53] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: no, i tried another PC with windows 7 and it works fine
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok, perhaps try the second screen in a liveusb as a test?
[16:54] <sudomarize> i've got a thinkpad x240, but it has terrible battery life. Any ideas what could be causing this? (~1.5 hours of constant use)
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: perhaps something goes wrong with intel driver
[16:54] <rajiv1> what is the command to use p7zip?
[16:54] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: how i reinstall it ?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | sudomarize
[16:55] <ducasse> rajiv1: 7z
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: it should work by default really
[16:55] <sudomarize> lotuspsychje: what does it do exactly, and how much does it improve battery duration?
[16:56] <xangua> Improve Power Usage / Battery Life In Linux With TLP ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog (http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html?m=1) sudomarize
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: try for yourself, it can help some
[16:56] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i will try restart brb
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: ok
[16:56] <rajiv1> ducasse: thankyou:)
[16:57] <sudomarize> lotuspsychje: is this different from tlp?
[16:57] <sudomarize> tried tlp a while ago, although didn't notice a massive increase in battery time
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: you can try both
[16:57] <ducasse> rajiv1: np. i'm guessing un7z for decompression :)
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: another option is to deeper investigate why your battery drains so fast
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> sudomarize: try few ubuntu versions, higher kernels,etc
[16:58] <rajiv1> ducasse: np. i found help window after entering 7z.
[16:59] <ozberk> hi guys are there any alternatives for shotwell
[17:00] <ozberk> I hate it as a photographer
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: you need a manager of photo editor?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> or
[17:00] <ducasse> ozberk: digikam?
[17:00] <ozberk> lotuspsychje, accutaly I need both. It is too slow for importing
[17:00] <ozberk> ummm it is Ubuntu
[17:00] <k_dog345> Hey guys, I'm hoping someone can help me with my sound issues. I've already followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure to no avail.... help?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: krita is nice for editing
[17:01] <ozberk> ok I'll give a shot does it require for KDE ?
[17:02] <ducasse> ozberk: not kde, just some libraries.
[17:02] <ducasse> (ok, many libraries)
[17:03] <MindSpark> hey, I am trying to get an upstart job to run inside a docker container
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | k_dog345
[17:03] <MindSpark> I have zero knowledge about upstart
[17:03] <MindSpark> but I just copied one of the files in /etc/init and adjusted it accordingly
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | MindSpark
[17:04] <MindSpark> it it a php script that should be running in the background indefinitely
[17:04] <MindSpark> lotuspsychje, yes, I am having trouble getting that to run
[17:05] <tgm4883> MindSpark: your upstart container isn't 16.04 is it?
[17:05] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje here are my system details
[17:05] <k_dog345> http://pastebin.com/fyqjVd6v
[17:05] <MindSpark> tgm4883, what do you mean by upstart container? You mean docker container?
[17:05] <tgm4883> MindSpark: sorry, yes
[17:05] <k_dog345> As said, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure, I have pulseaudio
[17:06] <MindSpark> tgm4883, 14.04
[17:06] <MindSpark> why?
[17:06] <tgm4883> MindSpark: 16.04 doesn't use upstart. So what do the logs say when you try to start it?
[17:06] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje An important thing to mention is I had swapped computers using the same harddrive months ago, it has not worked since then
[17:06] <MindSpark> tgm4883, 16.04 doesn't use upstart? what does it use then?
[17:06] <tgm4883> MindSpark: systemd
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: you could try a sudo service pulseaudio restart
[17:07] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje I've done that many times, does not work
[17:07] <MindSpark> tgm4883, there doesn't seem to be anything in /var/log/upstart
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: when build a new system i would advise a new install
[17:08] <tgm4883> MindSpark: nothing in there? That's odd. You have permission to look in there?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: perhaps try an ubuntu liveusb and see if your sound works there?
[17:08] <MindSpark> tgm4883, yes, I am root in the container
[17:08] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje I could not, as it would of destroyed my data. I'm on a work station :(
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> k_dog345: always backup your data :p
[17:08] <tgm4883> MindSpark: Does stuff start by upstart in docker?
[17:09] <tgm4883> I'm not super familiar with docker
[17:09] <MindSpark> tgm4883, I don't know. But I am guessing yes. Funny thing is initctl doesn't output anything
[17:09] <MindSpark> no matter what arguments you pass
[17:10] <gregf_> hello, im trying to install imagemagick on an ubuntu ec2 instance
[17:10] <tgm4883> MindSpark: this sounds like a questin for #docker
[17:10] <gregf_> and im just getting 404's :|
[17:10] <MindSpark> tgm4883, alright, thanks
[17:10] <freelancerbob> hey
[17:10] <freelancerbob> l0rdkermit:
[17:11] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje yes we did 10 times over lol, just getting this sound to work has been a nightmare
[17:11] <k_dog345> any other suggestions?
[17:11] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: i find out why is flickering
[17:12] <Yoanncooljazz> Is there a special irc group for ubuntuphone ?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> freelancerbob: why?
[17:12] <k1l> !touch | Yoanncooljazz
[17:12] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: when adapter is plug in monitor is flickering
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !yay | freelancerbob
[17:13] <freelancerbob> lotuspsychje: but i really do not know how to resolve it
[17:14] <freelancerbob> i have only mini display port on my laptop and VGA, VDi on monitor
[17:14] <freelancerbob> ubottu: thanks :)
[17:14] <tgm4883> freelancerbob: have you tried a different cable?
[17:14] <freelancerbob> tgm4883: no i do not, not have second one at home
[17:20] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje  I verified that my sound card is attached to the motherboard, but have not tried live usb
[17:23] <Guest57733> can anyone help me install software centre in ubuntu mate iam new to this
[17:23] <k_dog345> lotuspsychje Could I try through a VM? Or does it have to be live cd?
[17:23] <Guest57733> anyone please help?
[17:24] <Guest57733> i have installed it has dual boot with windows
[17:24] <ducasse> k_dog345: a vm would require that sound works on the host, use a live usb.
[17:25] <rp2> gregf_, ImageMagick doesn't generate any 404 as far as I'm aware
[17:25] <k_dog345> ducasse okay, ill be back
[17:25] <Gu1gZz> kn4
[17:25] <rp2> how do you get them?
[17:27] <Bashing-om> Guest57733: Software Cecter is installed by default . What release are you running, and what is the issue with SC ?
[17:31] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[17:32] <Welastevil> someone using ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[17:32] <k1l> Welastevil: some do
[17:32] <ducasse> Welastevil: many of us.
[17:32]  * BluesKaj shakes his head,  evil this evil that ....
[17:32] <Welastevil> ok...
[17:33] <Welastevil> I just installed it 2 days ago.
[17:33] <Welastevil> realise that it was slow...and I folowed some reomendations...
[17:34] <Welastevil> installing preload was the best of them
[17:35] <Welastevil> but...even f it had improve my system, my internet browser and some stuf are stil slow...
[17:35] <Welastevil> some sugestions?
[17:35] <Welastevil> I alredy did everything I found from google
[17:36] <k1l> Welastevil: if 16.04 is "slow" then 14.04 etc would be slow too. so what hardware is that?
[17:36] <k1l> maybe you should take a look at a more lightweight version like xubuntu or even Lubuntu
[17:37] <kdog333334444455> hey guys, I am back. I was known as 'k_dog345', I am in live USB testing sound, and it does not work. Can I get some help?
[17:37] <Welastevil> the hardware is fine...
[17:37] <Welastevil> it is an alienware, core i7, 4giga ram, and so on...
[17:37] <Welastevil> I think it is quit buged....
[17:38] <Bashing-om> Welastevil: Maybe: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html will give ya some direction ?
[17:38] <donofrio> Welastevil, inxi -Fxz
[17:38] <donofrio> Welastevil, paste to apaste.info
[17:38] <Welastevil> inxi?
[17:38] <k1l> 4gb ram is not that mmuch as of today. i guess a browser with some tabs can eat that easily
[17:38] <marcelo_> hola gente. quien me puede decir si puedo cambiar el tamaño de pantalla que me aparece en 640/860 75hz
[17:38] <donofrio> ubottu, !inxi Welastevil
[17:39] <marcelo_> prove todo lo que vi en los foros pero no me lo pernmite, tal vez sea por el procesador
[17:39] <phillyj> silly me, I ran apt-get autoremove and now my ethernet dont work. How do I fix it?
[17:40] <Welastevil> I dont understand what I should past donofrio...
[17:40] <donofrio> Welastevil, apt-get install inxi then paste output to apaste place
[17:40] <Welastevil> ok!
[17:40] <Mint001> Hey guys... Using chromium youtube works perfectly fine, but other web videos do not. Any ideas ??
[17:40] <donofrio> Mint001, chromium, did you aslo install pepperflash?
[17:40] <Mint001> Its just gives me a right click to play flash but nothing happens. Once I reload the page it says that the plugin couldn't be loaded
[17:40] <k1l> Mint001: so you are missing flash. youtube is using html5 now
[17:40] <Mint001> donofrio: yes i have pepperflash installed
[17:41] <Mint001> pepperflash was installed through synaptic the same time as I installed chromium and other stuff...
[17:42] <Welastevil> here!
[17:42] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/zexDSrp4
[17:44] <k1l> Welastevil: what video card is it? did you install the prop. drivers in the system settings?
[17:44] <Mint001> Should I uninstall pepperflash & try reinstalling it ??
[17:45] <Welastevil> I dont know...
[17:45] <donofrio> Welastevil, do not be in hurry try what I suggested witches -Fxz to inxi
[17:45] <k1l> Welastevil: "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" show the output url please
[17:46] <Welastevil> the geforce gtx 260m
[17:46] <Welastevil> about installing the drivers I dont know....
[17:47] <k1l> Welastevil: system settings -> software and update -> drivers tab
[17:49] <Welastevil> it says that no drivers are in use
[17:49] <k1l> does it offer drivers?
[17:50] <Welastevil> No proprietary drivers are in use
[17:50] <Welastevil> it says...
[17:51] <Term1nal> Having an issue with persistence of preferences.
[17:51] <Term1nal> Saved usernames/passwords of network mounted directories (eg: samba, sftp, etc) don't save despite selecting the option to remember "forever"
[17:52] <Term1nal> Similarly, when getting prompted in some applications to remember a certificate exception "forever", this appears to do jack all.
[17:53] <Term1nal> This has only started with 16.04
[17:57] <thebodykeepsthes> Hello
[17:59] <thebodykeepsthes> I have this hard drive, 1tb seagate, and it shows up on other machine but not ubuntu 14.04. 'fdisk -l' doesn't show it, and it doesn't show up with 'lsusb' either. Anyone know what's wrong?
[17:59] <phillyj> is there a way to find out what autoremove removed from my PC?? I shut down and found out that I lost important things....
[17:59] <thebodykeepsthes> There's a light on the device which is on so it's gettingn power.
[18:00] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: other machine with what OS?
[18:00] <thebodykeepsthes> sebsebseb: Win7
[18:00] <k1l> phillyj: look inside /var/log/apt
[18:00] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: oh
[18:00] <thinky> hi there
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: Linux distros can usaully detect pretty much anything on a hard disk I think partionswise
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thinky: hi
[18:01] <Term1nal> sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[18:01] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes:  what's the file system on it NTFS? Or FAT?
[18:01] <thebodykeepsthes> sebsebseb: I'd imagine ntfs.
[18:01] <Term1nal> see if when you plug that drive in it starts resetting the link
[18:02] <sebsebseb> thebodykeepsthes: do what Term1nal put I guess,  but  have you got anything else on that machine  another OS no?  for other computer
[18:02] <Term1nal> oftentimes when plugging in drives, looking at the kernel log will give you an indication of the drive is failing to communicate
[18:02] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it's not. Just stuff about a touchpad.
[18:02] <thinky> how r u guys?
[18:03] <Term1nal> start that kernel log tail, plug the drive in, and watch to see what it starts saying
[18:03] <tim241> is it normal that if I run apt-get update I only get this as output?
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[18:03] <Term1nal> I often use that as a method to determine if a drive is just failed or not.
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
[18:03] <tim241> Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[18:03] <sebsebseb> but too late now your on quite
[18:04] <Welastevil> any ideas about what might be slowing my pc?
[18:04] <sebsebseb> wait a bit for unmute I guess
[18:04] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/zexDSrp4
[18:04] <tim241> sorry
[18:04] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: nothing
[18:05] <k1l> tim241: use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <tim241> ok
[18:05] <k1l> tim241: then show the link here
[18:05] <tim241> ok sorry
[18:05] <Term1nal> thebodykeepsthes: is it an external drive with USB?
[18:05] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: yes.
[18:05] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: Seagate 1tb, srdosp0
[18:05] <Term1nal> In those instances, I will rip a drive out of the external drive housing and plug in directly to SATA
[18:06] <thinky> how can i set shutter as default screenshot app in ubuntu ?
[18:06] <Term1nal> could mean that the USB/SATA controller chip inside of that housing is blitzed
[18:06] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: works on win7 though
[18:06] <Term1nal> Oh, hm
[18:06] <tim241> is it normal that if I run apt-get update I only get this as output?: http://pastebin.com/zMmduSaV
[18:06] <Term1nal> you get no output on kern.log upon connecting that drive?
[18:06] <Term1nal> it should say stuff about USB
[18:06] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it says nothing; I watched it
[18:07] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: it powers up though; the drive has a light on it
[18:07] <Term1nal> got a flash drive?
[18:07] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: yes, it works.
[18:07] <Term1nal> plug it in and see if kern.log says stuff
[18:07] <tim241> ??someone help me
[18:08] <thebodykeepsthes> tim241: looks fine
[18:08] <thebodykeepsthes> tim241: maybe you meant to do 'apt-get upgrade'?
[18:08] <tim241> ok thx
[18:08] <Term1nal> tim241, yes, looks fine.
[18:08] <Term1nal> apt-get upgrade just refreshes the package lists
[18:08] <Term1nal> er
[18:08] <Term1nal> update*
[18:08] <tim241> I did and it is upgrading some software
[18:09] <tim241> ok thx
[18:09] <Term1nal> apt-get update just does package lists, apt-get upgrade does the actual package installation
[18:09] <tim241> ok
[18:09] <Term1nal> thebodykeepsthes: got a different USB cable for that drive? tried a different port? (like a 2.0 instead of a 3.0 or what have you if applicable)
[18:11] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: tried all three; nothing
[18:11] <Term1nal> Strange.
[18:11] <Term1nal> Not sure about that one.
[18:12] <styler2go> hello. i am trying to do a wget but i always get network is unreachable but i can access the pc, any idea what i can do?
[18:13] <thebodykeepsthes> Term1nal: okay thanks anyway.
[18:13] <tim241> maybe iis it region locked?
[18:13] <BlackVenom> Hey fokls
[18:14] <BlackVenom> folks
[18:14] <tim241> hi
[18:14] <BlackVenom> Can you still use init scripts on 16.04?
[18:14] <tim241> yes
[18:14] <BlackVenom> Super thanks tim241
[18:14] <tim241> np
[18:15] <tim241> just do cd /etc/init.d to check if there is any init.d folder
[18:15] <BlackVenom> Any ideas why I can get 16.04 to install on an old system but not 14.04.04? It hangs at the Select Language page
[18:16] <styler2go> please help
[18:16] <tim241> you=why do you want to install 14.04?
[18:17] <BlackVenom> I just tried it before 16.04 as I already had a disc but it kept crashing
[18:18] <tim241> but why do you want an older version if you can have the newest version
[18:19] <BlackVenom> curiosity mostly
[18:19] <tim241> ow ok
[18:21] <tim241> idk why it is crashing
[18:21] <tim241> maybe upload the log file?
[18:21] <tim241> from the installer
[18:22] <tim241> should I remove linux and install windows 10 or should I stick with linux?
[18:23] <BlackVenom> tim241 where would the log file be?
[18:23] <tim241> if you install it you can send the error file to the server
[18:23] <tim241> just take a pic of the whole error and come to this chat
[18:24] <tim241> anyways gtg
[18:27] <Mint001> Hey I have been looking into my flash not working & it turns out that I appear to be missing "/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so" I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no avil.
[18:27] <thinky> i am having problems ?
[18:27] <thinky> :
[18:27] <thinky> http://i.imgur.com/DOrcFAk.png
[18:27] <thinky> http://i.imgur.com/y3k5r7M.png
[18:27] <thinky> can somebody help me please?
[18:27] <styler2go> Can someone help me? My ipv4 seems not to be working :( http://pastie.org/10834589
[18:27] <hubot__> how to browse internet without google?
[18:27] <paco__> \list
[18:28] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: google it
[18:28] <styler2go> use bing
[18:28] <styler2go> hahaha. hahah.
[18:28] <styler2go> hah.
[18:28] <hubot__> \list? pa
[18:28] <Mint001> hubot_: use duckduckgo.com :)
[18:28] <CaffeineAddict> duckduckgo is google w/ out tracking
[18:29] <k1l> thinky: close software updater and software center and run in terminal"sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the output link here
[18:29] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: what is your end goal ... what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:29] <thinky> ok k1l
[18:30] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380312/
[18:30] <hubot__> finding random information from internet world CaffeineAddict
[18:31] <Mint001> Anyone able to link me to libpepflashplayer.so ?? Like I said I've tried uninstalling & reinstalling pepperflash but this file does not appear thous why my flash is not working :(
[18:31] <k1l> thinky: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:32] <thinky> done k1l
[18:32] <thinky> now?
[18:32] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: if you want random ... try stunbleupon ... if you want really random try somethingawful.org or 4chan
[18:32] <k1l> thinky: show the link please
[18:32] <thinky> http://termbin.com/x9j2
[18:32] <hubot__> i dont want to use from any website's eyes CaffeineAddict
[18:33] <hubot__> i dont want to view from any website's eyes CaffeineAddict
[18:33] <BlackVenom> thinky, have you run apt-get install -f
[18:33] <thinky> yes BlackVenom
[18:34] <thinky> ah wait i ran '' apt-get -f install
[18:34] <k1l> thinky: sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:34] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380382/
[18:35] <daey> how can i throw an ssh session onto the hosts display?
[18:35] <CaffeineAddict> hubot__: so text only?
[18:35] <k1l> thinky: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:35] <daey> client A logs into host B. Bs display shows said session
[18:36] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380413/
[18:36] <hubot__> i didnt get you CaffeineAddict . text information is also ok
[18:37] <thinky> how can i remove that ''/var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb '' ?
[18:37] <daey> ok, if that isnt possible
[18:37] <k1l> thinky: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb ; sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[18:38] <daey> how can i access a local tty via ssh?
[18:38] <thinky> grrrrrrrrr
[18:38] <thinky> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380463/
[18:38] <CaffeineAddict> daey: /dev/tty0
[18:39] <thinky> damn openjdk-8
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: wait, that didnt remove the file.
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: make sure this works: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-8-jre-headless_8u91-b14-0ubuntu4~16.04.1_amd64.deb"
[18:39] <thinky> ok
[18:39] <k1l> thinky: then "sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade"
[18:40] <thinky> cannot remove k1l
[18:40] <k1l> why?
[18:40] <thinky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16380495/
[18:40] <thinky> no idea
[18:40] <thinky> no such file
[18:40] <thinky> it seems deleted
[18:40] <k1l> ok
[18:40] <thinky> but why still giving error ?
[18:40] <k1l> thinky: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:40] <daey> CaffeineAddict: how can i access a specific tty via ssh?
[18:41] <daey> i thought it will always open a new one
[18:41] <Term1nal> daey: screen I think
[18:41] <daey> i could butcher it together with tmux. by loading a tmux sessions into two ttys
[18:41] <thinky> installing updates of jdk8
[18:41] <Term1nal> I use screen for serial
[18:42] <thinky> done k1l
[18:42] <thinky> ''sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade'' ?
[18:42] <CaffeineAddict> daey: like your ssh-ed into a box and want to check the tty on that box?
[18:42] <k1l> thinky: ok. seems like the package was not downloaded properly. and it was trying over and over again installing that broken package
[18:42] <k1l> thinky: yes
[18:42] <Term1nal> like: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600
[18:43] <thinky> installing archieves
[18:43] <daey> CaffeineAddict: well theres a user on that box that logsin automatically, its tty is displayed on a display. i want a way to play around with the display output from my ssh session
[18:44] <hidden> i did "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list" trying to fix something, how to replace it via terminal?
[18:44] <CaffeineAddict> daey: like Term1nal said ... try 'screen'
[18:44] <Term1nal> hidden: what version
[18:44] <CaffeineAddict> daey: you may have to install it
[18:44] <thinky> k1l: http://i.imgur.com/5gVSMQa.png
[18:44] <Term1nal> hidden: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[18:44] <thinky> is this symbol because of these errors?
[18:45] <thinky> seems so it just disappeared
[18:45] <k1l> thinky: dont mind that
[18:45] <thinky> ok anyway it just disappeared
[18:45] <hidden> 16.04
[18:45] <thinky> process is done k1l
[18:45] <thinky> i think it installed and upgraded
[18:46] <thinky> how can i check if it is done properly?
[18:46] <thinky> i was having problems with installing apps for some days
[18:46] <hidden> thanks
[18:46] <thinky> it was not able to install when i try
[18:46] <k1l> thinky: when "sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade" doesnt show any packages to upgrade
[18:47] <thinky> k1l: should i try the command again?
[18:47] <CaffeineAddict> if I run `tail -f /var/log/syslog` how do i pipe the output ... end goal I would like to pipe the output via UDP so it can be logged on another box
[18:47] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: netcat
[18:47] <thinky> k1l: Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:48] <thinky> :)
[18:48] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: also, might be better to use syslog
[18:48] <thinky> thank you very much !
[18:48] <Term1nal> CaffeineAddict: https://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[18:48] <Term1nal> Since it supports this already
[18:48] <CaffeineAddict> Term1nal: does it work for other types of log files?  I used syslog as an example
[18:49] <thinky> k1l: thank you !
[18:49] <jon__> sudo apt full-update
[18:49] <_zkate_> hi, does anyone knows about /proc/net/ip_tables_names file
[18:50] <meskes> What about it?
[18:50] <thinky> another question how can i add ''show desktop'' on unity launcher?
[18:50] <thinky> or is there any easy way to show desktop on launcer?
[18:50] <_zkate_> meskes: I dont have it on my system
[18:50] <meskes> And????
[18:51] <_zkate_> meskes: is it removed the current versions?
[18:51] <meskes> Start iptables and add some tables and chains to it.
[18:51] <meskes> No. /proc is a virtual FS. It's only there, if it's running.
[18:52] <_zkate_> meskes: ok . i get it.. thanks
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> If apt autoremove is flagging things that should not be removed as removable, what should I do to solve that?
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> I can't say I have ever seen this before so I'm at a bit of a loss
[18:53] <Term1nal> EldonMcGuinness: such as?
[18:53] <EldonMcGuinness> gdm
[18:54] <Term1nal> Do you use gdm?
[18:54] <EldonMcGuinness> im on ubuntu-gnome, but figured this might be an issue someone here is familiar with.
[18:54] <dax> EldonMcGuinness: apt-mark manual packagename
[18:54] <EldonMcGuinness> cheers, I think I just found an article that is saying that too dax
[18:54] <dax> (see also man apt's section of "autoremove")
[18:55] <xangua> thinky: yes, with unity tweak
[18:56] <thinky> xangua: thx done
[18:57] <fundies> can someone help me fix ubuntu?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> fundies: maybe what's the issue
[18:57] <fundies> hangs at boot
[18:58] <fundies> stoping user manager for uid 118
[18:58] <fundies> last thing it says
[19:01] <fundies> so.... can someone help me fix ubuntu?
[19:02] <thinky> what was the command to be root in terminal?
[19:02] <thinky> su ?
[19:02] <fundies> yes
[19:02] <administrador> Hello. I have Ubuntu 14.04 with Cinnamon DE. I have a R9 380 GPU. So I installed the latest drivers (15.302) from AMD site but now I can't login, the whole screen it's filled with distortion, even in other tty's can't see a thing, I am in Failsafemode right now and it works fine, the thing is I don't want to enter GRUB everytime to login, is there a way to login directly to Failsafe mode in every boot?
[19:02] <k1l> no
[19:03] <k1l> thinky: sudo
[19:03] <thinky> should i install gksu first?
[19:03] <thinky> thx kiki1
[19:03] <fundies> sudo su if dont have root password
[19:03] <thinky> k1l:
[19:03] <k1l> just preface the command you want to run with sudo. that will make that command run as root. but dont run everything as root
[19:03] <thinky> ok
[19:04] <k1l> fundies: that is bad advise. ubuntu uses sudo. if you want a root shell use sudo -i
[19:04] <rhorse> I created a root account, makes life easier....
[19:04] <fundies> k1l, its not advice its the corect answer to his question
[19:04] <k1l> rhorse: you are free to do that. but that is not the ubuntu way. ubuntu is build to not use the root account.
[19:04] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does Unity handle the laptop screen backlight?
[19:05] <k1l> fundies: no, it isnt the correct answer in #ubuntu
[19:05] <thinky> hmm
[19:05] <fundies> k1l, yes it is
[19:05] <k1l> !sudo | fundies
[19:05] <rhorse> I know, k1l but Ubuntu is linux, and the 'linux way' can and does often include a root account. YMMV.
[19:05] <PaulePanter> Does it use D-Bus?
[19:05] <fundies> k1l, i know what sudo is
[19:05] <zykotick9> fundies: i'm sorry, but "sudo su" is a BAD answer for any distro...
[19:06] <Term1nal> you're more than welcome to use the root account
[19:06] <Term1nal> but you're inviting problems by doing so.
[19:06] <fundies> k1l, ive prolly been using linux far longer than you
[19:06] <Term1nal> By all means, go ahead and root your way to victory.
[19:06] <rhorse> I've never had a problem in 12 years of using linux with a root account.
[19:06] <k1l> fundies: you try to make it personal. dont do that. you gave a wrong answer. i provided the technical correct answer.
[19:06] <Term1nal> If you're smart and don't run untrusted scripts and applications as root, sure, you can get away with it.
[19:06] <fundies> k1l, zykotick9, its how you get a shell as root.
[19:07] <fundies> thats the correct answer
[19:07] <Term1nal> But to tell others that such is a good way of doing things is irresponsible.
[19:07] <zykotick9> fundies: NO.  it's not.
[19:07] <thinky> i was trying to add an icon on launcher
[19:07] <fundies> if he asked how to run x as elevated user
[19:07] <thinky> but now it happened empty space between launcher icons :S
[19:07] <fundies> then sudo would be correct
[19:07] <k1l> rhorse: this is ubuntu specific. i know that other distros use that differently. but ubuntu is build around a non-login root account.
[19:07] <thinky> how can i get rid of that empty space?
[19:08] <k1l> fundies: you are wrong. sudo su sets some wrong enviroment variables. which is solved with using sudo -i.
[19:08] <rhorse> I know, k1l but I prefer the freedom to do things differently....YMMV
[19:08] <Term1nal> I drop to interactive root shell via sudo -s and have my bash prompt change to red
[19:09] <fundies> if ubuntu breaks sudo su. its even shittier than I remembered
[19:09] <fundies>  speaking of how shitty ubuntu is...
[19:09] <akik> fundies: the correct syntax is "sudo su -"
[19:09] <fundies> has anyone ever run a successful upgrade
[19:09] <zykotick9> fundies: "sudo su" NEVER makes sense...  with ANY distro.
[19:09] <dax> fundies: this isn't Ubuntu-specific behavior. sudo su is affected by the environment of the non-root user running it. sudo -i is not. This is all in sudo and su documentation.
[19:09] <thinky> here : http://i.imgur.com/JHJ6WAa.png
[19:10] <thinky> there is an empty space between icons
[19:10] <thinky> how can i fix?
[19:10] <GnomeKris> two things. First, I've just had to reset cmos for the second time...This is beginning to show a trend, any ideas? Two. Why the heck did my workspace switcher hotkeys stop working after running compiz in terminal the other day? Will they start working again if I purge compiz?
[19:11] <GnomeKris> As long as gdm is in charge of display management, compiz is completely unnecessary right?
[19:12] <fundies> When  called  without  arguments, su defaults to running an interactive
[19:12] <fundies>        shell as root.
[19:12] <k1l> GnomeKris: gdm and compiz do different things
[19:12] <fundies> wow almost word for word what i said
[19:12] <k1l> fundies: you are missing the point that got explained  to you twice.
[19:12] <GnomeKris> k1l, but is compiz required in this particular situation?
[19:12] <zykotick9> fundies: BUT, putting "sudo" infront of "su" is silly/wrong/incorrectly...
[19:13] <fundies> k1l, you're missing the point
[19:13] <k1l> GnomeKris: no. its not needed for the login screen.
[19:13] <fundies> anyways this isnt getting me anywhere
[19:13] <dax> fundies: in #ubuntu, we recommend sudo -i. If you dislike that, you are free to not provide sudo support here. But this argument is tedious and not going anywhere, so let's drop it.
[19:13] <fundies> apparently noone here knows how to fix ubuntu
[19:13] <freaj> GnomeKris: you don't need compiz to make gdm work
[19:14] <fundies> ill leave
[19:14] <freaj> GnomeKris: *however* please keep compiz unless you *really* know what you're doing
[19:14] <GnomeKris> freaj, what does compiz control that I need it for? Because I'm thinking that the only way to get my hotkeys back is to purge it.
[19:15] <GnomeKris> After running it the other day, the hotkeys stopped working.
[19:15] <freaj> GnomeKris: are you using unity?
[19:15] <k1l> gdm means he is using gnome shell
[19:16] <GnomeKris> freaj, Ubuntu Gnome 14.04...so no, I'm pretty sure I'm not *actively* using unity
[19:16] <dax> GnomeKris: you don't need compiz.
[19:16] <freaj> GnomeKris: then you don't need compiz :-)
[19:16] <freaj> dax: heh!
[19:16]  * freaj gives a penny to dax
[19:16] <GnomeKris> Thanks guys
[19:17] <dax> GnomeKris: GNOME uses mutter instead for window management and compositing
[19:18] <Term1nal> I ponder if anyone can help me with my issue. Credentials to network mounted directories (samba, sftp, etc) aren't being saved "forever" despite clicking the option to save them "forever".
[19:19] <GnomeKris> dax, so removing compiz and unity have no affect on how gnome displays?
[19:20] <dax> GnomeKris: GNOME sessions shouldn't even be running them, correct
[19:20] <GnomeKris> cool, cause that's all I use is the gnome session...I don't even run the gnome classic session. Just the default
[19:21] <fedoen> hi guys, this is getting a real pain, I got my bluetooth headset working on 16.04 after a long struggle, now every time I reboot, I have to mannually turn on bluetooth, unplug the dongle from the usb port, plug it back in and sound will be working if lucky, now I can't get it working this way anymore, please share some info if you know a workaround for bluetooth headset in 16.04
[19:21] <GnomeKris> also, just apt-get remove? or purge?
[19:22] <dax> GnomeKris: remove removes the actual program files, purge removes any configuration files in /etc and similar
[19:22] <dax> GnomeKris: so if you're not going to use them again, may as well purge
[19:23] <GnomeKris> purge it is then, thanks dax
[19:24] <GnomeKris> (I dislike unity and compiz, to weighty on the system and to many dang config options)
[19:24] <fedoen> now I got it working but it's breaking off, syslog: pulseaudio[1783]: [bluetooth] module-bluez5-device.c: Skipping 22188 us (= 3912 bytes) in audio stream
[19:25] <Spinach> hello
[19:25] <Spinach> Can anyone hear me
[19:25] <Spinach> Herro?
[19:25] <freaj> Spinach: yes
[19:25] <freaj> hi
[19:27] <fedoen> Spinach: I feel you
[19:27] <Spinach> hay
[19:27] <daey> how can i change the tty font to a 6x8px font?
[19:27] <daey> or if readable even smaller
[19:27] <Spinach> What is the user-friendly, graphical program that I use to customize Grub?
[19:28] <thinky> can i install gnome classic to ubuntu 16.04 ?
[19:29] <thinky> is it updated for ubuntu 16.04 lts already?
[19:29] <thinky> fallback
[19:29] <k1l> thinky: should be included.
[19:29] <OerHeks> Spinach, grub customizer > https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[19:30] <thinky> i read somewhere gnome fallback is not updated since 2012
[19:30] <Welastevil> guys!
[19:30] <Welastevil>  I can not use my apt-get anymore((((\
[19:30] <Welastevil> please take a look!
[19:30] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/Tkm87abS
[19:31] <k1l> thinky: gnome is making that cut down gnome2 lookalike again since the commercial clients from redhat demanded that.
[19:31] <OerHeks> Welastevil, terminal + softwarecenter open? colose one, only one instance allowed
[19:31] <M_aD> thinky,  flashback: http://www.debugpoint.com/2016/04/install-classic-gnome-flashback-in-ubuntu-16-04-replacing-unity/
[19:31] <thinky> k1l: but it was cool using gnome classic :S
[19:31] <Welastevil> how to close?
[19:31] <dax> Welastevil: you have another package manager open somewhere, either another apt-get or something like software center
[19:31] <Spinach> OerHeks: Did you read the full sentence of my question? That is not a package file, that is a source code file, that I would have to compile. I would like the user-friendly program that customizes grub. Thank you.
[19:31] <Welastevil> and what to close I dont understand
[19:32] <bob_> what the frack i can't connect to my irc network my friends have
[19:32] <Welastevil> how to find out and close?
[19:32] <OerHeks> Welastevil, one of the 2
[19:32] <Bashing-om> Spinach: CLI way . edit /etc/default/grub . section " # The resolution used on graphical terminal " line " #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 " .
[19:32] <Welastevil> yes...
[19:32] <OerHeks> or softwarecenter, or terminal
[19:32] <Welastevil> one of 2
[19:32] <Welastevil> but how?
[19:32] <OerHeks> ...
[19:32] <Welastevil> I see
[19:33] <Welastevil> to close software center
[19:33] <Spinach> Bashing-om, that is not an answer to my question. Please read what I said
[19:33] <fedoen> going to reboot, sometimes it fixes things, feeling like good old windows
[19:33] <k1l> !info gnome-flashback | thinky
[19:33] <squinty> Welastevil, close software center or synaptics if you have them running.  if not then  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock   in a terminal and then try to update again
[19:33] <Spinach> What is a novice-friendly way to customize Grub?
[19:33] <OerHeks> Spinach, i read your Q fine, see that page, open the ppa url > https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer  and add it in softwaresources
[19:33] <k1l> thinky: that is what its called now
[19:33] <thinky> is it safe to install it?
[19:34] <Spinach> ok OerHeks, I will try that
[19:34] <k1l> thinky: yes
[19:34] <Spinach> OerHekds, I had used that page to download the tar. I will try your new method
[19:34] <thinky> which the link M_aD gave?
[19:34] <OerHeks> Spinach, and there are screenshots too. that is why i point you to that page for start
[19:34] <Bashing-om> Spinach: :) . Then as OerHeks advised .
[19:34] <k1l> thinky: sudo apt install gnome-flashback
[19:34] <thinky> yes i did it
[19:35] <thinky> k1l: is this empty space normal? : http://i.imgur.com/JHJ6WAa.png
[19:35] <k1l> thinky: no
[19:35] <Spinach> Thank you, OerHeks.
[19:35] <thinky> how can i fix it ?
[19:35] <OerHeks> Spinach, have fun!
[19:35] <Spinach> Thinky: k1l is a jerk, do not associate with him.
[19:36] <Term1nal> Might someone be able to help me with my issue?  :S
[19:39] <OerHeks> yes, not k1l but me is the terrible person, please move on with support, thanks.
[19:39] <Welastevil> now the problem is another
[19:39] <Welastevil>  Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:39] <Sebastien> thinky, if you kill all the process running, and emptying the bar of it's icons, maybe it will fix it.
[19:39] <Sebastien> im not 100% sure tho
[19:39] <thinky> Sebastien: i click on it but nothing shows up to remove
[19:40] <Sebastien> the ones after the space.
[19:40] <thinky> i dont know how it happened. i was just dragging an icon to put there
[19:40] <Sebastien> colse them all, when another empty space meets to it, maybe it will fix it
[19:40] <Sebastien> this is what i would try.
[19:40] <Sebastien> close *
[19:40] <thinky> maybe restart helps
[19:41] <Welastevil> how to close all?
[19:41] <OerHeks> Welastevil, then there are possible updates pending, close terminal too and run updates...
[19:41] <Sebastien> right click on it
[19:41] <Welastevil> there is no updates..
[19:41] <Welastevil> I already cheked it
[19:41] <OerHeks> that happens not that often, but can be the culprit.
[19:41] <OerHeks> oke, then here is the wiki with apt troubleshooting > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:42] <OerHeks> Welastevil, try " sudo fuser -vvv /var/cache/apt/archives/lock " first, then run update again
[19:43] <torpet> hi all
[19:44] <torpet> what is the best way to get vlc 2.2.3 on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:44] <thinky_> solution is : unity --replace
[19:44] <thinky_> to remove invisible icon - empty space in launcher
[19:45] <xangua> torpet: compile it yourself or upgrade to a newer ubuntu release
[19:45] <Welastevil> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:45] <Welastevil> stil this problem...
[19:45] <CaffeineAddict> join /python
[19:45] <dax> CaffeineAddict: try /join #python
[19:45] <Welastevil> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:45] <torpet> xangua: are there any 3rd party repositories who offer it?
[19:45] <CaffeineAddict> ./facepalm
[19:45] <Welastevil> and this....
[19:46] <xangua> torpet: for trusty, doubt it
[19:46] <torpet> to old libraries?
[19:46] <torpet> *too
[19:49] <Welastevil> how do I exit apt?
[19:49] <fedoen> back
[19:49] <fedoen> problem persists
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Welastevil: Depends on what apt is doing .. there are those times is BAD to interrupt apt .
[19:51] <rp2> Welastevil, eithe you're not doing it as root or some other package management utility is still running. rebooting should fix that
[19:52] <rp2> but indeed it's better to figure out what is going on
[19:53] <fedoen> need help with bluetooth headset on ubuntu 16.04, if any1 has gone trought the pain of connecting and got it working please share
[19:53] <oceansky> hi i am getting very bad freezing from ubuntu 14.04-16.04
[19:56] <thinky_> another error : http://i.imgur.com/Jrwkbpx.png
[19:56] <thinky_> could u please take a look?
[20:00] <joshuaebbymathe> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Windows 10 in dual boot setup. Have been facing a rather weird network issue. Help please?
[20:01] <garshol> whats the issue joshuaebbymathe
[20:01] <Bashing-om> thinky_: Ouch ! What have you done ? .. Show us a new ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> I am able to ping my local network ip address, but not other IPs outside the network
[20:02] <garshol> so you cant ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes
[20:02] <garshol> but your interwebs is working fine?
[20:02] <joshuaebbymathe> But when I tried using Win 10 installed on the same machine, I am able to
[20:03] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: A DNS issue ? ' ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> ' completes ?
[20:03] <garshol> Have you installed any restricted extras?
[20:03] <joshuaebbymathe> It doesn't complete
[20:03] <joshuaebbymathe> No DNS issue, I checked that
[20:03] <thinky_> Bashing-om: installing some packages
[20:04] <thinky_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:04] <joshuaebbymathe> Then I tried from the live-cd, still the same issue
[20:04] <Bashing-om> thinky_: We await .. and see what the package manager did .
[20:04] <thinky_> i just checked updates from software update app
[20:04] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: maybe a gateway issue
[20:04] <thinky_> and i clicked on about this computer from settings
[20:04] <joshuaebbymathe> restricted extras, no
[20:05] <garshol> fedoen is onto something joshuaebbymathe. Might be a gateway issue.
[20:05] <thinky_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16381591/
[20:05] <joshuaebbymathe> But I was able to ping from Win 10, which is on the same machine
[20:05] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not the same thing
[20:05] <fedoen> what's your local network config
[20:06] <fedoen> direct connection?
[20:06] <fedoen> or trough a router
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> Gateway configuration in the network interface?
[20:06] <fedoen> yes
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> <IP_ADDRESS>/22
[20:06] <fedoen> and phis settings
[20:06] <fedoen> equippment
[20:06] <fedoen> do you have a lan router?
[20:06] <Bashing-om> thinky_: way back this morning, you were working " ttf-mscorefonts-installer " . Did you get it installed properly ?
[20:06] <joshuaebbymathe> My computer's ip is: <IP_ADDRESS> / 22 with gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:07] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[20:07] <joshuaebbymathe> no
[20:07] <thinky_> Bashing-om: i dont remember doing it
[20:07] <thinky_> not on purpose at least
[20:07] <thinky_> i m newbie on ubuntu
[20:07] <thinky_> trying to learn
[20:08] <fundies> why is ubuntu such a shit?
[20:08] <joshuaebbymathe> I have L2 switch between the distribution switch; and I can only ping the computers connected in the L2 switch
[20:08] <pOY> hello
[20:08] <fundies> if i uninstall gdm
[20:08] <fundies> why it try to start gdm
[20:09] <Bashing-om> thinky_: K, no biggy then if it is not a current problem. the " W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/ " you can safely ignore. We are awaiting google to strengthen their security to match ours .
[20:09] <thinky_> Bashing-om: ah yes i was trying to install google chrome
[20:09] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: dhcp or static ip?
[20:09] <pOY> got a small issue with unity tweak if anyone can help?
[20:09] <joshuaebbymathe> static ip
[20:09] <joshuaebbymathe> <IP_ADDRESS> is what I am using
[20:09] <rp2> fundies, did you reboot?
[20:10] <thinky_> Bashing-om: i installed it and i am on google chrome at the moment. isnt it safe?
[20:10] <fundies> yes
[20:10] <rp2> hmm
[20:10] <fedoen> and on win 10 same setup?
[20:10] <rp2> seems like a bug
[20:10] <fundies> ubuntus retarded and broke my system on upgrade
[20:10] <fundies> hangs at gdm
[20:10] <fundies> i remove gdm
[20:10] <rp2> what did you install instead of gdm?
[20:10] <fundies> hangs at gdm
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes same on win 10
[20:10] <fundies> piece of shit
[20:10] <dax> fundies: cut the attitude and language, please.
[20:10] <fundies> nothing
[20:10] <CaffeineAddict> if I use `tail -f foo.log` it yields any newly appended logs (works as intended) however if foo.log is deleted and recreated tail acts like nothing happend and gives you none of the changes to the new foo.txt
[20:10] <CaffeineAddict> is there a solution to this?
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> I even tried installing Mint Rosa
[20:10] <joshuaebbymathe> same issue
[20:10] <fedoen> you need a route somewhere, tho I'm no expert on manual routes
[20:11] <dax> CaffeineAddict: use -F instead of -f
[20:11] <rp2> CaffeineAddict, maybe you can use a filesystem watch utility
[20:11] <rp2> oh!
[20:11] <CaffeineAddict> dax: ty
[20:11] <joshuaebbymathe> Let me try that
[20:11] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: what do you have as default on route command?
[20:11] <Bashing-om> thinky_: Yes; google-chrome is safe . just their error checking/security for updates is weaker than ubuntu - in 16.04 - is comfortable with .
[20:11] <dax> CaffeineAddict: (which is equivalent to -f --retry, and --retry does "keep trying to open a file if it is inaccessible")
[20:12] <thinky_> i see Bashing-om thx
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> one sec, let me check
[20:12] <curlyears> hello, All.  I am very embarassed.    So I am having all this trouble under 14.04.4, not under 16.04
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> Default route <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:12] <boyen> hello
[20:12] <boyen> who use ubuntu mate here?
[20:12] <joshuaebbymathe> When I do ifconfig, should the default route show?
[20:13] <nacc_> !mate | boyen
[20:13] <joshuaebbymathe> It is not in eth0
[20:13] <\9> !ask | boyen
[20:13] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: only the gateway
[20:14] <joshuaebbymathe> Under eth0 it only shows -> inet addr, Bcast and Mask
[20:14] <pOY> got an issue with unity tweak tool, when i set the window buttons to the right hand side the setting gets ingnored and nothing happens
[20:14] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: " <IP_ADDRESS> " implies that another machine on the internal network is doing the routing .
[20:15] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: that's why I love dhcp :) saves me all the pain
[20:15] <computer> people of the ubuntu world, hear me
[20:15] <computer> i want to format a 2TB HDD
[20:15] <joshuaebbymathe> Oh! Let me change to dhcp
[20:15] <joshuaebbymathe> we have a dhcp server
[20:15] <computer> should i zero it first or not, will ziroing it make it move efficient and fast?
[20:15] <curlyears> I guess I'll start ordering a new M/B, *sigh*I  wish I could find opne with more than 4 RAM slots
[20:15] <k1l> computer: no
[20:16] <computer> so zeroing is just for security, will not affect function?
[20:16] <k1l> zeroing is not for security at all.
[20:16] <computer> k1l: then?
[20:17] <phil42> sometimes a drive might have been placed into some inappropriate mode and zeroing will clear that mode
[20:17] <MoonBurst> My speakers won't work, but my headphones do. Is there a way to find what drivers I might need?
[20:17] <curlyears> matically destorys all data ans software presently in the disk, so zeroing it ahead of time accomplishes nothing
[20:17]  * phil42 speaks from experience
[20:17] <fundies> fucking garbage distro piece of shit
[20:18] <boyen> sucks
[20:18] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I mainly use network manager for my connection, my default gateway is on the same subnet /24 so I
[20:18] <k1l> computer: there are some myths back from the days when there was bandtapes and such.
[20:18] <fedoen> don't get that much trouble
[20:18] <computer> hmmmm sounds very deep guys, i have a 2TB HDD working fine, changing from mac to ubuntu and farmattin it to etx4, it is full of movies and after formatting will put back the movies, should i zero it while formatting or not?
[20:19] <fedoen> still waiting for some help on bluetooth headset :)
[20:19] <dax> no, it is pointless
[20:19] <EriC^^> computer: ^
[20:19] <joshuaebbymathe> I got an ip from the dhcp
[20:19] <fedoen> and internet?
[20:19] <computer> so the professionals say no zeroing, i will follow that... thanks people :-)
[20:19] <joshuaebbymathe> no, didn't
[20:20] <thinky_> how can i install gpointing or ibm thinkpad trackpoint driver?
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> I am now changing the L2 switch in between me and the distribution switch
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> I don't know it will help, but trying
[20:20] <joshuaebbymathe> Since I'm able to ping from Win10
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: try to get all the info you can get from the windows machine
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: ip, gateway, routes
[20:21] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: and try to setup the ubuntu in the same way
[20:21] <joshuaebbymathe> Okay
[20:22] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if ip and gateway are the same then there's probably a problem on the routes
[20:23] <joshuaebbymathe> Apart from the default route, can I add a route?
[20:24] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe:  yes, command line or network manager?
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> network manager
[20:24] <altin_> how to connect to CISCO VPN in gnome? I installed network-manager-vpnc but it's not showing up in network manager
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes, I found the setting
[20:24] <joshuaebbymathe> It is 'Automatic' now
[20:25] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: you can add routes there, I have a VPN that needs manual routes which I add there
[20:25] <olmari> Any change or instructions how to update 16.04 libgcrypt20 (and everything it affects) into version 1.7 instead of it's 1.6.5
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> For me it's a direct connection, so do not know what to write
[20:26] <iced> hi
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> apart from the ip of the gateway
[20:26] <joshuaebbymathe> Is it something to do with MTU?
[20:26] <explodes> test :D
[20:27] <fushitaka> So I am not the only one testing this :)
[20:27] <olmari> ref: I'd like to utilize gpg2.1 offering of ed25519 as encryption key, but libgcrypt20 is too old
[20:27] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if it's not default 1500, you should change
[20:27] <necron> hola
[20:27] <joshuaebbymathe> It says automatic now, I'll change to 1500
[20:28] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: try ifconfig
[20:28] <necron> hola a todo el mundo
[20:28] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: automatic should give you 1500, unless the switch is setup different
[20:28] <necron> hi
[20:29] <joshuaebbymathe> Switch's MTU is 1504
[20:29] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: if you played with the switch MTU, you should give your box the same
[20:29] <necron> ????????????
[20:29] <olmari> necron: ho
[20:29] <olmari> fedoen, joshuaebbymathe: well MTU is still "only" the max... even if switch can do MTU 9000, it does not mean all lcient's have to
[20:30] <joshuaebbymathe> It's an unmanaged L2 switch, so the default is 1504 there
[20:30] <curlyears> computer      :once again, there is no point to ";zeroing" the drive prior to formatting it.  Formatting it will remove ANY content it current carries
[20:30] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: cisco?
[20:30] <joshuaebbymathe> Dlink
[20:31] <necron> alguien habla español??
[20:31] <curlyears> ooops, sorry, lost track in the scroll, ignore that last message
[20:31] <\9> !es | necron
[20:31] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not an expert here again, but usually defaults are working fine
[20:31] <olmari> necron: I suspect there might be spanish language ubuntu channel
[20:31] <necron> gracias ubottu
[20:31] <joshuaebbymathe> Yes, I never had to touch MTU before
[20:32] <slee> hi, when does 14.04 support stop?
[20:32] <dax> slee: April 2019
[20:32] <slee> a friend is telling me a repo is dead in her updates: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty
[20:32] <slee> i just tried loading that url, i get a 404
[20:32] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: check that on windows also
[20:33] <necron> adios
[20:33] <dax> slee: that URL loads fine for me, the " trusty" part is not part of the URL
[20:33] <joshuaebbymathe> Sure, give me 5 mins pls, while I reboot
[20:33] <nacc_> slee: but it roughly translates to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/, which also loads for me
[20:33] <slee> sorry, it does for me as well, i typoed
[20:33] <slee> thanks for the help
[20:33] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: since the windows machine is working, the problem is only on the ubuntu network config somewhere
[20:34] <necron> bye people
[20:34] <joshuaebbymathe> I am changing the switch as well
[20:34] <joshuaebbymathe> I might disconnect for couple of minutes
[20:35] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: switch shouldn't be a problem, but you might try that too
[20:36] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: for windows you have route print command to see all routes
[20:36] <fedoen> afk
[20:36] <Bashing-om> joshuaebbymathe: I may not know much .. but you do have to be able to ping your gateway . Until you can not are going nowhere . identify the gateway IP .
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Changed switch. Matched Win10 network setting. But it is not working!
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Win10 it is working still
[20:41] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: did you also check all routes on win10?
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> yes
[20:41] <fedoen> same on ubuntu?
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> No routes are written
[20:41] <joshuaebbymathe> Same as Ubuntu
[20:42] <joshuaebbymathe> Did route print in win10
[20:43] <joshuaebbymathe> I was thinking of trying 15.04 :(
[20:43] <Ben64> 15.04 is EOL
[20:43] <pOY> anyone have the xps 13?
[20:44] <Guest83188> hello D:
[20:44] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I'm afraid mi knowledge stops here, from now it's trial and error
[20:44] <joshuaebbymathe> fedoen: Thank you so much far! I really appreciate
[20:44] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: maybe some more experienced network admins can point you in the right way
[20:45] <joshuaebbymathe> I'll try with 15.04 and see where it goes :)
[20:45] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: don't, it's not supported
[20:45] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: ubuntu networking is pretty much the same
[20:46] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: not sure that would help
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> On the same machine I had 15.04 and it was working earlier
[20:46] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: i'd try 15.10 over 15.04, for sure
[20:46] <Ben64> lets say it does work, it's still pointless because 15.04 is EOL
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> was thinking of trying out all the options
[20:46] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: did you upgrade from 15.04?
[20:46] <joshuaebbymathe> This is a clean install
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> But first noticed the problem after I upgraded
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> from 15.10
[20:47] <Ben64> what version joshuaebbymathe
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> Ben64: the current one is 16.04 lts
[20:47] <nacc_> i don't know much (anything) about windows, but it seems weird for windows routing table to be empty...
[20:47] <joshuaebbymathe> It is not empty, but the gateway etc. matched
[20:47] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I did an upgrade from 15.10 and have some issues with bluetooh headset which where working and empathy yahoo still doesn't connect
[20:47] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: yep thats the one you should be using
[20:48] <PaulePanter> Hi. How does Unity handle the laptop screen backlight? Does it use D-Bus?
[20:48] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: I can live with that tho, but no network is bad
[20:48] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: "13:41 < joshuaebbymathe> No routes are written"
[20:49] <joshuaebbymathe> fedoen: I will try 15.10
[20:49] <joshuaebbymathe> nacc_: I meant I have not written any explicit routes in Win
[20:49] <nacc_> joshuaebbymathe: oh i see
[20:49] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: no difference actually unless you want mir
[20:49] <computer> people does ubuntu support NTFS file system?
[20:49] <nacc_> computer: yes, i believe it does
[20:49] <sebsebseb> computer: yes it does
[20:49] <k1l> computer: not as system FS
[20:49] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: which after a few seconds of testing I trew away
[20:50] <sebsebseb> computer: for external hard disks and usbs, not an install though
[20:50] <computer> ok excellent
[20:50] <computer> thanks people
[20:50] <joshuaebbymathe> do you recommend 16.10?
[20:50] <thinky_> nite all
[20:50] <joshuaebbymathe> Is it even out yet?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> no
[20:50] <nacc_> no
[20:50] <sebsebseb> pe
[20:50] <nacc_> heh
[20:50] <thinky_> thx for your helps
[20:51] <k1l> joshuaebbymathe: its not out. it will be released in october 2016 (that is the name, btw)
[20:51] <fedoen> 15.10 was ok
[20:51] <\9> joshuaebbymathe: 16.10 won't be out for another 6 months
[20:51] <\9> or is it 5 months now
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> I think I have a copy of 15.10; I will try and come back in an hour
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> :)
[20:52] <fedoen> 16.04 it's the same, except maybe from some obscure setting I don't use
[20:52] <pOY> got an issue with unity tweak tool, when i set the window buttons to the right hand side the setting gets ingnored and nothing happens
[20:52] <\9> i still need to upgrade to 16.04
[20:52] <Ben64> joshuaebbymathe: just use 16.04 and fix the problem, don't create more by using a release that will die in 2 months
[20:52] <\9> I'm just a bit concerned about the loss of fglrx
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> Thanks fedoen!
[20:52] <fedoen> joshuaebbymathe: sorry it didn't work
[20:52] <joshuaebbymathe> Ben46: this is just to test
[20:53] <joshuaebbymathe> No problem fedoen:
[20:53] <joshuaebbymathe> Thanks everyone :)
[20:54] <fedoen> Ben64: 16.04 still has some issues, tho I'm not sure networking is on the list
[20:54] <zaffy> joshuaebbymathe, just try with a live. don't need to install
[20:54] <fedoen> zaffy: he said live is the same
[20:54] <Ben64> fedoen: it's fine
[20:55] <fedoen> back to my question: bluetooth headset on 16.04?
[20:57] <nacc_> fedoen: that's not a question? :) what's the issue?
[20:58] <fedoen> nacc_:  need step by step guidance actually, I've tried everything I could find or imagine
[20:58] <nacc_> fedoen: let me see if my bluetooth headset is charged
[20:58] <fedoen> nacc_: had them working, after reboot they sometimes connect, sometimes they don't
[21:00] <fedoen> nacc_: I removed all I could find bluetooth related and reinstalled blueman and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, they worked, but I had to take out the dongle and plug back in to get a connection, now that doesn't work anymore
[21:00] <fedoen> nacc_: sometimes I get sound but it breaks out...
[21:02] <nacc_> fedoen: hrm, yeah, i got sound for a few seconds and then it switched back to my laptop's speakers, and i see a bit of a flood of hci0 errors in dmesg
[21:03] <fedoen> nacc_: thanks for confirming, I thought it's just my setup
[21:03] <nacc_> fedoen: i've often had the issue of having to remove my headset before every pairing (in 15.10 and earlier)
[21:04] <fedoen> nacc_: I got it working eventually on 15.10 and never needed setup again, had some trouble there too, but after the first successful connection everytime it connected without trouble
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: yeah, that's roughly my experience, i guess i haven't tried in 16.04 since updating
[21:05] <fedoen> nacc_: after upgrade to 16.04 - only troubles
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: i end up using the headphone jack and built-in mic
[21:05] <nacc_> fedoen: testing again to make sure it's reproducible
[21:05] <fedoen> nacc_:  you can test forever, same results :)
[21:06] <squinty> fedoen, same problems here with bluetooth and dmesg reports missing firmwaree
[21:06] <nacc_> fedoen: mine is staying connected now
[21:06] <nacc_> letting it run for a bit
[21:06] <fedoen> nacc_:  fun thing is  it worked for a few days and now back to trouble and can't get it working
[21:07] <nacc_> fedoen: well, i'm using my bluetooth headset right now, so that much is different
[21:07] <nacc_> bluetooth controllers are notoriously finicky and don't always follow the spec, iirc
[21:07] <fedoen> nacc_:  once connected you won't have troubles until next reboot or disconnect
[21:07] <fedoen> what do you have installed?
[21:08] <nacc_> fedoen: how do you mean?
[21:08] <fedoen> blueman?
[21:08] <fedoen> bluedevil?
[21:08] <ANONYMOUS> hi
[21:08] <nacc_> fedoen: it's running off the gnome-control-center bluetooth configuration
[21:08] <fedoen> that's bluedevil I think
[21:09] <Guest83883> your are using msfconsole?
[21:09] <nacc_> fedoen: no, bluedevil is not installed
[21:09] <Guest83883> ok ok
[21:09] <nacc_> fedoen: 'bluez' package which provides bluetoothd
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: and that seems to be the backend driven by gnome's configuration
[21:10] <Guest83883> you are hacking bluetooth
[21:10] <fedoen> nacc_: bluez I think gets installed as dependency on all bluetooth packages
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: i don't have either bluedevil or blueman installed
[21:10] <fedoen> nacc_: is your headset provided with handsfree for mobile?
[21:10] <nacc_> fedoen: i don't know what that is :)
[21:11] <Guest83883> nacc: are you hacking?
[21:11] <squinty> gnome-bluetooth
[21:11] <fedoen> nacc_: in sound settings what profiles do you have
[21:11] <Guest83883> i haven't got any
[21:11] <squinty> Guest83883,  stop with the foolishness please
[21:11] <nacc_> fedoen: HSP/HFP and A2DP sinnk
[21:11] <Guest83883> hey
[21:12] <nacc_> *sink
[21:12] <Guest83883> ok ok
[21:12] <fedoen> I will try a cleaning of bluetooth and go for gnome-bluetooth only
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: i will notice quality is terrible
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: but that might be because the headset battery is about to die :)
[21:12] <fedoen> nacc_: lol
[21:12] <fedoen> nacc_: you connected to HSP/HFP
[21:12] <nacc_> squinty: they are acting like a bot that was on here a few days ago, fwiw
[21:12] <nacc_> fedoen: yeah, I think that was the default
[21:13] <nacc_> fedoen: I can switch it if you want
[21:13] <squinty> nacc_,  ahhhh  ok thanks
[21:13] <fedoen> nacc_: try A2DP sink - that's what provides hyfy sound
[21:13] <lewis1711> good morning. what's the significance of an ssh service vs an sshd service? for example, I have a /etc/ssh/ssh_config, but no sshd_config
[21:13] <Guest83883> hey what are use the webcam hack in android with metasploit I don't know
[21:13] <fedoen> and no you can't
[21:13] <fedoen> at least for me it breaks
[21:13] <orlock> lewis1711: client vs daemon
[21:13] <dax> lewis1711: ssh_config is for the ssh client, not a service. sshd_config is for the server
[21:13] <nacc_> fedoen: will try
[21:13] <dax> lewis1711: if you're missing the latter, you probably don't have openssh-server installed
[21:14] <fedoen> nacc_: if it works I get back too gnome bluetooth :)
[21:14] <lewis1711> dax: right. I am trying to clone a git repository through ssh. so I need the daemon?
[21:14] <nacc_> fedoen: trying to figure out how to get gnome sound daemon to let me force it to a2dp, it keeps going back
[21:14] <nacc_> lewis1711: no, you only need the daemon to give access ssh to your machine to others
[21:15] <dax> lewis1711: no, what you have should be fine for that
[21:15] <lewis1711> huh. I am trying to add "AllowUsers git" but I am constantly told it's a bad configuration otpion
[21:15] <orlock> lewis1711: do you host the git repository too?
[21:15] <orlock> rather than cloning one elsewhere?
[21:15] <lewis1711> orlock: no, it's hosted on the machine I am trying to ssh into
[21:15] <fedoen> nacc_: tho my experience got me trough using blueman which lets you connect to audiosink on headset and select A2DP sink as audio profile
[21:16] <jayjo_> WHere can i edit the location of my meta key? The system prefernces > keyboard option doesn't have anything available to adjust
[21:16] <nacc_> lewis1711: you should just be doing `git clone git+ssh://...` right?
[21:16] <dax> lewis1711: AllwUsers is something one would configure on the computer you're hosting the repository with, not the computer you're cloning on
[21:16] <dax> AllowUsers*
[21:16] <orlock> lewis1711: well whoever runs that machine will be wanting to install ssh - Or, just use git
[21:16] <lewis1711> nacc_: correct
[21:16] <lewis1711> dax: ah!!! right
[21:16] <nacc_> lewis1711: then "AllowUsers" is not relevant
[21:16] <fedoen> nacc_: sometimes I could select A2DP only from pavucontrol (pulse audio volume controller)
[21:17] <nacc_> lewis1711: just run the `git-clone` :)
[21:17] <nacc_> fedoen: let me try that
[21:18] <nacc_> fedoen: pavucontrol also doesn't seem to let me set it to a2dp :/
[21:19] <fedoen> nacc_: that's the hell I live in
[21:19] <nacc_> fedoen: weird ... "[pulseaudio] module-bluez5-device.c: Refused to switch profile to a2dp_sink: Not connected"
[21:19] <nacc_> fedoen: that's from syslog
[21:19] <fedoen> nacc_: been there :)
[21:20] <fedoen> fedoen: try to remove and repair the headset
[21:20] <fedoen> :P
[21:20] <fedoen> nacc_: remove and repair sometimes works
[21:20] <fedoen> nacc_: can I pm you with my email? it's late here, but you get it working let me know ok?
[21:21] <nacc_> fedoen: sure
[21:23] <fedoen> nacc_: let me know if you get better results, and if you get them working don't celebrate just yet, try again after reboot :)
[21:24] <fedoen> bye for now
[21:24] <fedoen> 00:24 here
[21:28] <wgwz> having some trouble with a linux mint install. it's been installed for about a year now. recently played around with some shit that i probably shouldn't have and i can't boot.
[21:29] <merced> what'd you play around with?
[21:29] <wgwz> i was attempting to play a game through wine. played around with some graphics drivers stuff.
[21:29] <squinty> !mint
[21:30] <wgwz> also around the same time i updated a newer arch linux that i have on a different hdd in the same box.
[21:30] <wgwz> (alright i'll move over to #linuxmint-help)
[21:32] <EldonMcGuinness> I really wish empathy had a way to hide part/join in irc
[21:33] <k1l> EldonMcGuinness: you could use a real irc client
[21:33] <merced> use irssi
[21:33] <k1l> !quietirc
[21:33] <EldonMcGuinness> yea, I'm coming to that conclusion heh
[21:33] <EldonMcGuinness> I normally use irssi, but thought why not give empathy a go
[21:35] <merced> i use revolve.pl with irssi
[21:49] <michael_> quit
[21:56] <eset> is there a simple way to upgrade mysql 5.1 to min 5.5 on Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:56] <robb_nl> 10.04 is out of support... you sure you want that?
[21:56] <eset> robb_nl: it's not up to me right now
[21:56] <Bashing-om> 10.04 | eset
[21:57] <Bashing-om> !10.04
[21:58] <eset> Bashing-om: yeah I know that but that wasn't what I asked :)
[21:58] <bazhang> eset, you cannot
[21:58] <a_s_s_f_u_c_k> How do I find out what graphics card I have?
[21:58] <bazhang> eset, you could upgrade to  a supported version
[21:59] <robb_nl> eset, there is a good step by step here: https://www.coursera.org/learn/python/
[21:59] <robb_nl> oops
[21:59] <eset> bazhang: so I have only one way, from source
[21:59] <dax> a_s_s_f_u_c_k: change the nick to something appropriate, please
[21:59] <eset> robb_nl: http://ronaldbradford.com/blog/upgrading-to-mysql-5-5-on-ubuntu-10-04-lts-2013-01-22/ ?
[21:59] <robb_nl> wrong link... http://www.ovaistariq.net/490/a-step-by-step-guide-to-upgrading-to-mysql-5-5/
[21:59] <robb_nl> better
[22:01] <Mir_Poweredge> hello.  i am having an issue booting to the Xubuntu iso.  i get the quick splash and then i get a black screen with a blinking underscore.  the machine remains unresponsive during this time.  this is xubuntu 32bit
[22:01] <robb_nl> sad
[22:02] <Mir_Poweredge> i had a similar issue after installing ubuntu from the ubuntu server cd and booted to the installed system
[22:02] <ratrace> dax: ban first, kick second. see? he's autoback
[22:02] <dax> ratrace: I know how to op. I wasn't intending to ban him, and didn't.
[22:02] <dax> Seems he got the point anyway.
[22:02] <ovolenny> hola
[22:03] <ratrace> trolly trolls :)
[22:03] <ovolenny> hola quien abla espanol
[22:03] <ovolenny> ?
[22:03] <genii> !es | ovolenny
[22:06] <M4RC3LLUS> Can anyone tell me if the Ubuntu 16.04 GNOME release on the Ubuntu site is for AMD CPUs only?
[22:07] <\9> M4RC3LLUS: it wouldn't make any sense for them to be
[22:07] <M4RC3LLUS> I made a live USB, and I'm able to boot to it fine in the "Try Ubuntu before installing" option, and it works perfectly fine, but After installing I get an error that it can't fine the filesystem
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> MannyLNJ: intel or amd
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> MannyLNJ: sorry
[22:08] <bitchin_camaro> M4RC3LLUS: intel or amd
[22:08] <M4RC3LLUS> bitchin_camaro: intel
[22:09] <bitchin_camaro> M4RC3LLUS: both wil work
[22:09] <Mir_Poweredge> M4RC3LLUS, i am having a similar but different issue
[22:10] <\9> how did you partition the system, then? this doesn't sound like a very CPU-related issue
[22:10] <Mir_Poweredge> seems the install i did using the server disc workd but i need to boot into rescue mode and drop to a root shell
[22:10] <Mir_Poweredge> weird
[22:11] <Mir_Poweredge> i never had this much headache incusing flustration with 14.04 Y_Y
[22:11] <M4RC3LLUS> Mir_Poweredge: Ouch. What error did you get?
[22:12] <Mir_Poweredge> none
[22:12] <Mir_Poweredge> the system freezes
[22:13] <M4RC3LLUS> Mir_Poweredge: I got a kernal panic not synching error regarding init
[22:13] <M4RC3LLUS> Boot-Repair didn't work
[22:14] <Mir_Poweredge> thats the same issue i got on another machine.  i have systemd on it... not init
[22:14] <Mir_Poweredge> :/
[22:15] <M4RC3LLUS> Ouch
[22:17] <Queenslayer> EriC^^, you escaped from Linux?
[22:18] <merced> there is no escape
[22:18] <Queenslayer> Was I that bad?
[22:22] <boriseto> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on a Lenovo laptop and can't suspend it to ram at all. It just gets stuck to black screen and the fans start getting really loud. It was just fine with 14.04. Any ideas?
[22:22] <psaux> i desire to know, how can i install my intel drivers for run dota 2.
[22:22] <R0binh00d> boriseto, do you have nVidia graphics?>
[22:23] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, i know your issue well
[22:23] <boriseto> R0binh00d, nope, Intel+AMD
[22:23] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, it could be Nvidia drivers or it could be an issue with plymouth
[22:23] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, is it a common issue with this release or..? Is there some info somewhere?
[22:23] <psaux> it's saying that my graphic must suport at least opengl v3.1
[22:24] <Mir_Poweredge> boriseto, every thinkpad i have up to the T410 has an issue on not just ubuntu but every other distro using plymouth and splashy
[22:25] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, I understand. But it is weird that it worked great on 14.04. Was it different for that version, did it use something else instead plymouth?
[22:25] <Mir_Poweredge> dunno
[22:25] <Mir_Poweredge> i am having loads of issues wi5th 16.04
[22:25] <ratrace> boriseto: 16.04 dropped support for the proprietary radeon iirc
[22:25] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, me too, to the point that I'm going back to the 14.04 release.
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> that is true but shouldnt be an issue as MESA is better than the blob from AMD
[22:26] <boriseto> ratrace, yeah, not using fglrx, but radeon driver instead (and waiting for the AMDGPU update)
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> much more stable imho
[22:26] <ratrace> all I know, and this has been like forever, Linux + Radeon = Pain.
[22:26] <boriseto> Mir_Poweredge, true, I'm actually surprised how better the radeon (mesa) driver is.
[22:26] <ratrace> if you wanna run Linux, make sure it's intel or nvidia graphics.
[22:26] <Mir_Poweredge> anywho good luck boriseto ...
[22:26] <boriseto> ratrace, I don't have any issues when playing games... Mir_Poweredge, thanks.
[22:29] <gde33> how do we make the middle click open in new tab work in the firefox?
[22:30] <gde33> for bookmarks and if at all possible for folders of bookmarks
[22:31] <gde33> or just open in new tabs by default?
[22:32] <bull> guys
[22:34] <yodak> hi
[22:35] <PenguinMan98> lo
[22:35] <afeijo> funny, I updated my ubuntu to 16.04 and now xchat is gone?
[22:35] <dax> !xchat
[22:35] <afeijo> I had to install pidgin
[22:35] <afeijo> thanks, bot
[22:35] <afeijo> thanks, dax

[22:35] <bull> am using hexchat
[22:35] <afeijo> bull: is it good?
[22:35] <afeijo> I'll test it
[22:35] <afeijo> pidgin is nice tho
[22:37] <Queenslayer> How I do start my Ubuntu from scratch?
[22:38] <Queenslayer> Like reset it
[22:38] <Queenslayer> 'Factory reset'
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Queenslayer: Back up yoour personal data, and re-install .
[22:38] <Queenslayer> Got none
[22:38] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: better to start by stating what is wrong
[22:39] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, my understaning of Linux is what's wrong
[22:39] <Queenslayer> *understanding
[22:39] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: why do you want to start from scratch?
[22:39] <bull> thoughts about snappy please
[22:39] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, I installed some files
[22:39] <bull> it sucks in my case
[22:40] <Queenslayer> And don't know where they are
[22:40] <Queenslayer> Because it's new
[22:40] <Queenslayer> I want to start from scratch
[22:40] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: that doesn't seem like a reason to want to "start from scratch"
[22:40] <tgm4883> why not just search for the files?
[22:40] <Queenslayer> I don't know which packages were installed
[22:40] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: how did you install them?
[22:41] <Queenslayer> It's Private Internet Access
[22:41] <Queenslayer> VPN
[22:41] <Queenslayer> And they've got some weird instructions
[22:41] <spartan2276> How Can mount a directory to /dev/sdb1 at boot time?
[22:41] <tgm4883> spartan2276: that doesn't make sense
[22:42] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I think you mean mount /dev/sdb1 to a directory right?
[22:42] <tgm4883> !fstab | spartan2276
[22:42] <spartan2276> here is my fstab file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382902/
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok
[22:43] <spartan2276> tgm4883 that is what I meant
[22:43] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, installed them via command line
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what's the issue?
[22:43] <Queenslayer> downloaded installer.sh
[22:43] <Queenslayer> And ran that
[22:43] <spartan2276> but for some reason it will not mount
[22:43] <tgm4883> spartan2276: does /shared exist?
[22:43] <spartan2276> yes
[22:44] <tgm4883> spartan2276: so do 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /shared'
[22:44] <tgm4883> see if there are any errors
[22:44] <spartan2276> tgm4883 it only has read access only
[22:44] <Mir_Poweredge> well doing a smart test on the drive revealed some things to me... http://susepaste.org/97737596
[22:44] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: ok, so in order to "start from scratch" you will need to reinstall
[22:44] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I can't umount
[22:44] <Queenslayer> yeah tgm4883
[22:44] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I thought you said it wasn't mounted
[22:45] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: seems like you have clear next steps. Not sure what else you want
[22:45] <ratrace> Queenslayer: so first lesson, never install random packages from the net like that.
[22:45] <Queenslayer> lol
[22:46] <Queenslayer> ratrace, never have truer word been spoken
[22:46] <Queenslayer> tgm4883, I was hoping there'd be a reset function like Windows
[22:46] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I got this while running that command 'mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist'
[22:46] <Queenslayer> Or even Android
[22:46] <Queenslayer> lol
[22:47] <EldonMcGuinness> That is what backups are for Queenslayer
[22:47] <tgm4883> Queenslayer: sorry, there is not
[22:47] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, I'll do that as soon as I've got things sorted back to 'stock'
[22:48] <EldonMcGuinness> Welp have you made many changes/customizations?
[22:48] <tgm4883> spartan2276: so you don't have a second drive
[22:48] <Queenslayer> yup EldonMcGuinness
[22:49] <Queenslayer> It's a dual boot
[22:49] <spartan2276> tgm4883 yes I do it has been working fine until server reboot
[22:50] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what is the output of "ls /dev/sd*"
[22:50] <spartan2276> tgm4883 when I run fdisk -l I get this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382956/
[22:50] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok correction. You have an unpartitioned second disk
[22:51] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what is the output of "sudo blkid"
[22:51] <spartan2276> tgm4883 but there is data in that directory that folks write data to on a daily basis
[22:52] <spartan2276> tgm4883 /dev/sda1: UUID="331e2aeb-2a0c-4b7d-8844-56227db2e0d0" TYPE="ext4"
[22:52] <spartan2276> /dev/sda5: UUID="3c3310c4-0ea4-4970-85e6-b8c0a38ec93b" TYPE="swap"
[22:52] <spartan2276> /dev/sdb: LABEL="shared" UUID="6e104c56-43b7-4e46-be2c-f670f33dbd08" TYPE="ext4"
[22:52] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, how about this "sudo mount /dev/sdb /shared"
[22:53] <spartan2276> tgm4883 mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /shared busy
[22:53] <spartan2276> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb is already mounted on /shared
[22:53] <tgm4883> spartan2276: how about pastebin the output of 'mount'
[22:54] <spartan2276> tgm4883 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16382996/
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, so it thinks it's mounted
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: but you are saying that it isn't mounted?
[22:55] <spartan2276> yes but I can't access it
[22:55] <tgm4883> spartan2276: do you have permission to access it?
[22:55] <spartan2276> is there anyway to umount and then mount it with r/w
[22:56] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what's the output of "ls -l /shared"
[22:57] <spartan2276> tgm4883 ls -l /shared
[22:57] <spartan2276> total 56
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwx------ 24 root     root       49152 Nov 11  2015 lost+found
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwxrwx---  3 www-data www-data    4096 Feb 12  2015 owncloud
[22:57] <spartan2276> drwxrwxrwx 69 homer    sambashare  4096 Mar 22 16:22 user_data
[22:57] <tgm4883> spartan2276: thats.... mounted
[22:58] <spartan2276> tgm4883 yes but for some reason I can't access the data
[22:58] <spartan2276> can we force umount and then mount it again
[22:58] <tgm4883> spartan2276: what happens when you try to touch a file in there
[22:58] <spartan2276> touch?
[22:58] <tgm4883> spartan2276: "touch testfilename"
[23:00] <tgm4883> spartan2276: you would need to do that in one of the directories that you say you can't access
[23:01] <msrishiva> hg
[23:02] <spartan2276> tgm4883 touch: cannot touch ‘/shared/user_data/Rey_backup/webmin_1.730_all.deb’: Read-only file system
[23:03] <tgm4883> spartan2276: ok, so then what I would do is look through /var/log/syslog and see what errors it threw in regards to your /dev/sdb drive
[23:03] <spartan2276> tgm4883 there is no way to give it write access again
[23:04] <tgm4883> spartan2276: well you could remount it rw, but if it was mine I would at least try to see what the errors were
[23:07] <avkasc> Hello
[23:07] <guest-jn3yvg> hi
[23:11] <EldonMcGuinness> Queenslayer: If it is dual boot then why not just back and reinstall?
[23:11] <EldonMcGuinness> Surely you have a bit of room on the drive somewhere no?
[23:11] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, Yup
[23:12] <Queenslayer> I'll just format the drive
[23:12] <Queenslayer> EldonMcGuinness, I had a real big issue with the UEFI thing
[23:12] <EldonMcGuinness> and don't forget to backup that install! :D
[23:12] <Queenslayer> and EriC^^ was there to help
[23:12] <touil76>  Hello. I would like to say that I found a bug with my video driver and that it has been solved applying a patch to the source of the driver. The bug is here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1577170
[23:12] <Queenslayer> If I do it again I'm going to have to run through all those steps on my own
[23:16] <spartan2276> tgm4883 for now I just need to mount it as there are some folks who need to us it
[23:16] <tgm4883> spartan2276: then look up how to remount a drive as rw
[23:16] <spartan2276> tgm4883 when I get to the office tomorrow I can actually take a look at the RAID partition and see what is going on
[23:17] <EldonMcGuinness> Queenslayer: What steps did you have to do? Disable secureboot?
[23:17] <Queenslayer> lol
[23:17] <Queenslayer> Eldon I've got a log of that
[23:17] <Queenslayer> And it's massive
[23:18] <Queenslayer> To be frank, I don't even know what was done for the most part
[23:18] <Queenslayer> But it was essentially converting to uefi
[23:18] <Queenslayer> I'd installed on legacy
[23:18] <spartan2276> tgm4883 mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sdb read-write, is write-protected
[23:19] <tgm4883> spartan2276: sounds like your raid controller is stopping you
[23:19] <tgm4883> spartan2276: do you have backups?
[23:20] <EldonMcGuinness> interesting, welp good luck with that!
[23:21] <spartan2276> tgm4883 I'm not sure as someone else is in charge of the backups. I hope so
[23:22] <tgm4883> spartan2276: I hope so too
[23:24] <Mir_Poweredge> if windows 7 doesnt work out agian... back to ubuntu
[23:36] <thalin> so have the ubuntu repos been acting weird lately? I'm getting errors like Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[23:36] <thalin> there are now compressed Packages lists but apt doesn't seem to want to get them
[23:43] <zykotick9> Mason963: if you are using a PPA, report _ALL_ problems involving packages from that PPA, to the PPA maintainer (and not to ubuntu's bug-tracker).
[23:44] <Bashing-om> thalin: Pastebin ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo apt upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' we see what the story is .
[23:44] <zykotick9> Mason963: personally, i'd avoid PPAs if at all possible... but ymmv...
[23:44] <Mason963> zykotick9: you saw my question on #debian?
[23:46] <Mason963> zykotick9: problem is not just with the PPA package, there is the v4 lib in the "base" repo, and the v5 lib in the PPA, and they are both marked as "Conflicts" with the other, although the devs say that it is possible to have the two side by side
[23:47] <lerner> can I play atari on ubuntu?
[23:48] <Mir_Poweredge> yes
[23:49] <lerner> how?
[23:50] <zykotick9> lerner: "apt search atari" from terminal might list some helpful packages...
[23:55] <lerner> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIDD306aYhQ 01:59 whats the name of the game?
[23:56] <Darkelfjuggalo> I am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS:  does anyone else ever connect a larger Monitor to their laptop via HDMI? I am trying to do so for the sake of Watching Streaming Video in my browser using my Toshiba TV as the larger Monitor, but when I plug it in, i get a blank Desktop, i see my unity bar for a few pixels off the left side of the screen, my tool bar at the top with Clock, Network, etc is pushed off, and any windows i open will no
[23:57] <R0binh00d> Darkelfjuggalo, I think you should try checking the options in display settings from the Control Panel
[23:58] <Darkelfjuggalo> detect displays while it is plugged in?


[00:00] <Tenebrus> hello
[00:09] <Tenebrus> whom can i talk with about #ubuntu-ru operators?
[00:17] <niko> tell here
[00:18] <Pricey> Tenebrus: You can find them on /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-ru list
[00:19] <niko> i think he wants to talk about ru operators, but not sure
[00:20] <Pricey> The person with +F will be the best then.
[00:21] <Tenebrus> Yes, ru exactly
[02:41] <bazhang> Tenebrus, hi
[03:21] <bazhang> Tenebrus, you had a question for/about #ubuntu-ru ?
[13:50] <bazhang> Tenebrus, did you wish to discuss #ubuntu-ru ?