[03:24] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: k, odd that's a binary file, I'm not sure why invoking it with full path works and without doesn't
[03:24] <Poromenos1> sethk: the daemon seems to be running, but my crontab isn't being activated
[03:24] <sn9> K^Holtz: then you didn't upgrade
[03:24] <sethk> Poromenos1, did you restart cron after modifying crontab?
[03:24] <shane2peru> jrib:  ok did it again here is the output:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33191/
[03:24] <K^Holtz> sn9: ahh.. ic
[03:24] <ashika> ls
[03:24] <ashika> :)
[03:24] <K^Holtz> sn9: plz point me to the sources file and what to change
[03:24] <ashika> Hallo
[03:24] <Poromenos1> sethk: do i need to? :(
[03:24] <ashika> Anyone need help
[03:25] <jrib> shane2peru: lol this troubles me... one sec
[03:25] <lastnode> on dapper, my max resolution is 1024x768, i have a radeon 200m xpress. any ideas? (when i set to 1200x768 the screen goes all funny and overlaps when drawing)
[03:25] <sethk> Poromenos1, yes.  you can send it a signal, but restart is simpler as you can use the script in /etc/init.d
[03:25] <shane2peru> jrib:  ok.
[03:25] <sn9> K^Holtz: it's in /etc/apt, and change all the "dapper" to "edgy"
[03:25] <Poromenos1> sethk: i didn't know that, thanks... let's see if it works now
[03:25] <ashika> lastnode try editing for xorg.conf and restart.
[03:25] <lastnode> ashika, what do i need to change?
[03:26] <jrib> shane2peru: does 'sudo echo hi' work?
[03:26] <ashika> lastnode, Wait why are you change to 1200x786 when your max is 1024x768
[03:26] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, brb, going to relogin using xchat (currently on chatzilla)
[03:26] <Poromenos1> sethk: still nothing, sadly
[03:26] <Kingsqueak> k
[03:26] <sethk> Poromenos1, check the logs
[03:26] <shane2peru> jrib:  I tried "sudo echo hi"  and nothing happened.
[03:26] <Poromenos1> sethk: which one?
[03:26] <lastnode> ashika, my max is not 1204x768. in windows i get 1200x
[03:26] <ashika> lastnode, Ahh
[03:26] <shane2peru> maybe the account I created doesn' t have sudo permissions?
[03:26] <sethk> Poromenos1, look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[03:26] <jrib> shane2peru: ah we didn't add your user to the "admin" group, so he can't sudo.  ok this command will switch you to shane:  su - shane
[03:27] <ashika> lastnode, Do you single or dual boot
[03:27] <sethk> Poromenos1, just to be thorough, you are editing with the crontab utility?
[03:27] <K^Holtz> sn9: i just opened this in gedit, and its not giving me the option to save
[03:27] <sethk> Poromenos1, and when you edit the file again, you see the changes?
[03:27] <Poromenos1> sethk: crontab -e, yes
[03:27] <Poromenos1> and yes
[03:27] <Poromenos1> Nov 22 04:26:12 ubuserver /usr/sbin/cron[12867] : (CRON) INFO (Skipping @reboot jobs -- not system startup)
[03:27] <sn9> K^Holtz: yeah, you need to use sudo
[03:27] <caffiendo> is there anything that will stream .VOB files to windows media player?
[03:27] <K^Holtz> sn9: :) ty
[03:27] <DualCortex> kingsqueak, I'm back
[03:28] <Poromenos1> sethk: ah, it apparently works now
[03:28] <Poromenos1> great, thanks a lot :)
[03:28] <sethk> Poromenos1, good, it should  :)
[03:28] <shane2peru> jrib:  Ok, that did it!
[03:28] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: yeah not sure what your issue is, it's weird, I would just say to invoke it with the full path since it works
[03:28] <Poromenos1> sethk: erm, how do i stop the task i started? :p
[03:28] <shane2peru> let me log into that account and see if it works.
[03:28] <sethk> Poromenos1, unplug the machine?   You can use kill, or killall, as with any other running command
[03:28] <Skwid_> beryl
[03:28] <DualCortex> ok then, thanks anyway. I'll wait to see if anyone on the forums has any ideas
[03:28] <Poromenos1> sethk: ah, okay, thanks
[03:29] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: why not just run it with the full path?
[03:29] <ashika> lastnode, Are you there?
[03:29] <sn9> caffiendo: i believe it's still possible, though cumbersome, to accomplish that with vlc
[03:29] <lastnode> ashika, i triple boot, ubuntu, debian xp
[03:29] <Zambezi> I can't find libcurl 7.12.x in the repos. Does it have another name?
[03:29] <ashika> lastnode, DO you want to set resolution via grub or xorg.conf
[03:30] <lastnode> ashika, i dont mind either
[03:30] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, yeah I will... sometimes just bothers me to have such simple bugs
[03:30] <jrib> Zambezi: do you need that exact version?  edgy seems to have 7.15.4
[03:30] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: it's not you though I think it's the bin for Eclipse is doing something odd with paths
[03:30] <ashika> lastnode, first try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:30] <coz_> Zajjko, just type in libcurl into synaptic
[03:30] <ashika> lastnode, If that doesn't work let me know
[03:30] <mbrown> How do you make gnome-terminal do what xterm does with -hold ???
[03:30] <Zambezi> jrib, I use Dapper.
[03:30] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: you could run 'strace eclipse' and 'strace /path/to/eclipse' and see if there is anything interesting there
[03:31] <sn9> anybody: after a breezy-to-dapper upgrade, firefox does a SIGILL. any ideas?
[03:31] <jrib> Zambezi: dapper has 7.15.1
[03:31] <jrib> !info libcurl3 dapper
[03:31] <ubotu> libcurl3: Multi-protocol file transfer library. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 160 kB, installed size 336 kB
[03:31] <coz_> Zambezi, type libcurl into synaptic and see what you get
[03:31] <Kingsqueak> sn9: try mv ~/.mozilla ~/old_mozilla    restart it, then migrate your bookmarks file
[03:32] <sn9> Kingsqueak: already tried that; no go
[03:32] <mournsanity> Can anyone tell me where I can find the source code for the wanda fish applet?
[03:32] <Kingsqueak> sn9: hmm not sure then, as a workaround have you just tried downloading it, installing in ~/ and running it as ~/firefox/firefox  ?
[03:33] <Zambezi> coz_, Can I paste it in PM? I'm not sure what is it?
[03:33] <sn9> that i haven't
[03:33] <lastnode> ashika, doesnt work
[03:33] <Kingsqueak> sn9: if you do an apt-get update and upgrade are there any held back packages or other warnings?
[03:33] <mbrown> How do you make gnome-terminal do what xterm does with -hold ???
[03:34] <sn9> Reading package lists...
[03:34] <sn9> Building dependency tree...
[03:34] <sn9> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:34] <lastnode> ashika, brb
[03:34] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: the scroll-on-output or scroll-on-keystroke options in the profile maybe?
[03:34] <shane2peru> jrib:  Ok, that got me in with the following errors.
[03:34] <bashir> hey
[03:34] <Kingsqueak> sn9: odd, really not sure
[03:34] <bashir> how do i know if my graphics card driver is working correctly?
[03:34] <Tony_> ub3r n00b here.  I need some help, ok a lot of help, with madwifi and 6.10
[03:34] <shane2peru> OAFIID:Gnome_Panel_multiload_applet couldn't load to the gnome panel
[03:34] <Kingsqueak> sn9: if you start 'firefox' from a term does it give you any more useful info as to why it dies?
[03:35] <shane2peru> and a few others, I could choose not to delete it or delete it from the panel, I chose not to.
[03:35] <sn9> Kingsqueak: yeah, that's how i found out it's a SIGILL
[03:35] <shane2peru> No programs would open up.
[03:35] <shane2peru> However I could see my panel :)
[03:35] <jrib> shane2peru: can you change your theme?
[03:35] <Tony_> I dont know where to begin, but i dont think my wireless card is being recognized
[03:35] <mbrown> Kingsqueak - what I want is to execute `gnome-terminal --command=batchfile` but have the terminal stay open.. xterm does that, but what xterm doesn't do is casuing problems too... (trying to make my wife a batchscript that runs in a terminal and stays active so she can follow the directions...)
[03:35] <Kingsqueak> sn9: I'd try downloading it and just run it out of your homedir next
[03:36] <shane2peru> Didn't try, I couldn't get xchat to open
[03:36] <shane2peru> or Firefox.
[03:36] <phxheat> hi, im running automatix but it seems to have stalled on the step after completing real player installation... what should i do?
[03:36] <LjL> !automatix
[03:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:36] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: hmm k, what doesn't xterm do that you'd like, that might be easier to answer
[03:36] <sn9> Kingsqueak: ok. got url for a binary of 1.5 for linux-powerpc?
[03:36] <LjL> phxheat: ask in #automatix or stop the installation if you can (guess not)
[03:37] <Tony_> anyone think they can help me?
[03:37] <Jordan_U> Tony_:  What's the problem?
[03:37] <epp> hey
[03:37] <Kingsqueak> sn9: doh, sorry, no
[03:37] <Tony_> madwifi driver not working
[03:37] <mbrown> Kingsqueak - well, basically, I want a button on her menubar called "internet down" that when clicked walks her through ifdown/ifup, powercycle router, powercycle modem, that type of thing... gnome-terminal lets you open a new terminal from the menubar, xterm doesn't seem to have a menubar option?!?
[03:38] <shane2peru> jrib:  Ok, tried to log back in, and same crash, no response. let me run through the steps again, and try to change the theme.
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: ahh
[03:38] <phxheat> LjL: how would i forciby quit the program? (I can't close it)... should i use kill?
[03:38] <jrib> shane2peru: ok, do this,    xhost +local:     then,    su - shane    then    gconf-editor
[03:38] <Tony_> Jordan_U:  I wish I could tell you more, but i dont know where to begin
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: know that drill well ;-)
[03:38] <IndyGUnFreak> One more question, how do I set Firefox to be my default browser under X?  for some reason, it opens in either Konq or if I right click, I can choose Opera.  Firefox is set to be my default browser under the OS.
[03:39] <LjL> phxheat: i don't know. ask in #automatix
[03:39] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: how about a text file on the desktop she can click, set it chattr +i to keep her from deleting it
[03:39] <NoStop> Kingsqueak: why don't you just setup a launch application ... pointed at your BASH script and run in a terminal?
[03:39] <phxheat> LjL: no one is responding there unfortunately
[03:39] <nomasteryoda> ah, the challenge ... Ubuntu minty installed today on a Dumpster d'ove IDE drive - external (as in no case only usb wire and powersupply) Using this setup rig to Installl Ubuntu onto an emachine with ati graphics card and only 208mb ram
[03:39] <J-_> what do I need to get IE running in wine on ubuntu? any specific packages?
[03:39] <LjL> phxheat: did you mention that you were in #ubuntu...?
[03:39] <LjL> phxheat, anyway, i suggest reinstalling without automatix
[03:40] <sn9> J-_: google "ies4linux"
[03:40] <jrib> shane2peru: argh, I missed a step, do    export DISPLAY=:0    before running gconf-editor
[03:40] <mbrown> Kingsqueak - lol... well what xterm DOES do, is lets me `xterm -e batchfile -hold`, but she has no terminal to work in yet.. adds more steps for someone whois technophobic...  ahhh hey that's a good idea, with the textfile and all, thanks!
[03:40] <J-_> k
[03:40] <J-_> htanks sn9
[03:40] <freemind> yeah sn9
[03:40] <freemind> that rawks
[03:40] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: or an html file, set her a bookmark for file:///path/to/instructions.html
[03:40] <mbrown> Kingsqueak - great ideas, thanks bro!
[03:40] <Tony_> anyone here familiar with the madwifi driver?
[03:40] <shane2peru> jrib:  I get an error = GTK-Warning cannot open display
[03:41] <Kingsqueak> mbrown: no problem, my wife runs Ubuntu all day now, with no trouble, hell she's better at troubleshooting now than some co-workers
[03:41] <cheesy> i do have trouble with dual boot (linux & win2k)...what can i do if windows doesnt boot anymore?
[03:41] <confusco> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning: "I can't configure Debian.
[03:41] <mbrown> lol, rock on, thanks again!
[03:41] <jrib> shane2peru: what did it say after you did 'xhost +local:'?
[03:41] <shane2peru> jrib: ok, it opened a configuration editor.
[03:42] <shane2peru> Jrib: non-network local connections being added to access control list
[03:42] <Kingsqueak> confusco: Ubuntu is an African word for "I got tired of the apps I had in 1998"
[03:42] <jrib> shane2peru: /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme and /apps/metacity/general/theme
[03:42] <jrib> shane2peru: run gconf-editor as shane2 and set the same values for those keys
[03:42] <cheesy> after installing ubuntu windows won't start anymore. what can i do?
[03:42] <confusco> heh
[03:42] <IndyGUnFreak> its a sign cheesy, thats how linux is designed..lol
[03:42] <Tony_> cheesy: what do you mean "wont start?" does it not appear on the boot menu?
[03:43] <slavik> cheesy: what exactly do you mean? you should be able to select windows from the Grub menu ...
[03:43] <cheesy> it appears in the menu but i get a blue screen if i wan't to boot
[03:43] <Kingsqueak> cheesy: did you *just* finish the install?
[03:43] <cheesy> Kingsqueak: what do you mean by that?
[03:44] <Kingsqueak> cheesy: if you resized the partition, you should let Win sit for a good long while, it gets a bit confused over the filesystem and requires a slow check that it should do for you
[03:44] <Kingsqueak> cheesy: the lovely part is, it doesn't show you anything, it just does it
[03:44] <GenNMX> Hi, the people on #ubuntu on EFNet are talking about molesting sheep. Anyway, my ethernet card doesn't work anymore after reinstalling xserver-xorg and x11-common, probably because it hates me. Should I shoot it?
[03:44] <IndyGUnFreak> lol
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Tony_: Don't know much about wifi but I would try installing restricted modules to see if your card just needs some firmware
[03:45] <Kingsqueak> cheesy: fire it up, and leave it sit there for a good 15mins before you give up on it, it can take a while
[03:45] <Tony_> restricted is already installed
[03:45] <cheesy> Kingsqueak:  that would be nice..it shows me a blue screen saying that the boot thing is fucked up
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> the boot thing?
[03:45] <Kingsqueak> cheesy: it didn't say it was repairing it or give an option?
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> insert windows disk
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> do a repair install.
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> runt he commands FIXMBR
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> FIXBOOT
[03:45] <cheesy> ok
[03:45] <IndyGUnFreak> Grub will be erased.
[03:46] <Jordan_U> !madwifi | Tony_ maybe?
[03:46] <ubotu> Tony_ maybe?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:46] <cheesy> and how do i get grub back?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> !grub | cheesy
[03:46] <ubotu> cheesy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <shane2peru> Jrib:  Ok, it was set to Glider in the non-working one, and Human in the new one.
[03:46] <Tony_> Jordan_U, thanks, i'll read through it
[03:46] <IndyGUnFreak> you'll have to reinstall it, there's a couple live CD's you can use to just install Grub
[03:46] <shane2peru> jrib:  now try to log in?
[03:46] <IndyGUnFreak> I had that problem so many times with Fedora Core 5, I lost count
[03:47] <jrib> shane2peru: k, remember there are two keys, one for emtacity and one for gtk
[03:47] <shane2peru> right
[03:47] <jrib> shane2peru: yep, go ahead and try
[03:47] <Kingsqueak> I wonder if I can fix my XP media install that way
[03:47] <IndyGUnFreak> King, probably, but like i sai,d you'll hose grub.
[03:47] <shane2peru> jrib:  is that what broke it?  installing a metacity theme into a GTK theme or visa versa?
[03:47] <IndyGUnFreak> so make sure you have an understanding how to reinstall it.
[03:47] <Kingsqueak> that's no big deal, I hadn't thought to try that
[03:47] <Kingsqueak> yeah I'm good with that
[03:47] <fluxd> hello can anyone tell me what driver name I am supposed to put in xorg.conf file for an ati mobility radeon x1600?
[03:48] <jrib> shane2peru: nah, you just install a theme and it does the right thing on its own
[03:48] <noodles12> !ati
[03:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:48] <shane2peru> jrib:  ok, going to give this a try.
[03:48] <slavik> fluxd: the binary ati driver
[03:48] <cheesy> i just get back to the blue screen and tell you what it says before i try that
[03:48] <Jordan_U> noodles12: He might not need the binary drivers
[03:48] <fluxd> slavik: is it "ati" ?
[03:48] <Kingsqueak> IndyGUnFreak: any clue if FreeDOS or anything can do that repair for XP ?
[03:48] <slavik> fluxd: no, fglrx
[03:48] <IndyGUnFreak> hmm King.. not to sure.
[03:49] <Kingsqueak> IndyGUnFreak: HP doesn't ship media with Pavillions
[03:49] <Kingsqueak> k
[03:49] <Jordan_U> fluxd: Try sti , if that doesn't work follow the instructions ubotu gave you for fglrx.
[03:49] <Jordan_U> fluxd: *ati
[03:49] <slavik> ati is the open source driver and will not give 3d accelaration on any X series ...
[03:49] <fluxd> thx Jordan_U slavik
[03:49] <IndyGUnFreak> oh, well, i can't help you there, i build my own... so i always have a Xp disk handy
[03:49] <Jordan_U> slavik: Didn't know that :)
[03:49] <North64> I suppose ubuntu is very network dependant during the first install? (one CD, vs. DVD size of other distros)
[03:49] <IndyGUnFreak> I would think FreeDos has those commands, they are pretty old Dos commands.
[03:49] <Duck_> what would be the best VNC program to use on Windows to connect to my Linux box?
[03:50] <Kingsqueak> IndyGUnFreak: just wonder if it does NTFS
[03:50] <shane2peru> jrib:  Thanks!  I back in, and seems to be working correctly, My panel needs a little re-arranging, but at least it works!
[03:50] <Jordan_U> North64: Nope, everything is on the CD.
[03:50] <jrib> shane2peru: great
[03:50] <IndyGUnFreak> i'm not sure Kings...
[03:50] <sn9> Duck_: i used tightvnc for that
[03:50] <shane2peru> jrib:  My clock is gone though.  I will att a new one.
[03:50] <shane2peru> add
[03:50] <jrib> shane2peru: don't be scared to try other themes, that's the first time I've seen that happen
[03:50] <ivx> hey if you have high speed and a phone line is there anyway to make it so you can setup a dial up internet account
[03:50] <Duck_> sn9: is it any faster than RealVNC?
[03:50] <will__> Hi all
[03:50] <sn9> vnc can never be really fast
[03:51] <Skwid_> is there a well integrated way to rotate wallpapers from a folder / flickr ?
[03:51] <Skwid_> in gnome ?
[03:51] <North64> Jordan_U: well, then there must be stuff missing?  I mean others don't distribute their stuff on 6 CDs or a DVD for nothing
[03:51] <Pelo> ivx,  why would you want to ?
[03:51] <tbtrojanek> Is there an easy way to revert my system to a base Ubuntu Desktop install?(Without a CD)
[03:51] <shane2peru> jrib:  I upgraded to Edgy, then downgraded to Dapper, and left my /home directory
[03:51] <jrib> Skwid_: there is wallpapoz but I wouldn't say it is well integrated
[03:51] <shane2peru> could that be a problem?
[03:51] <ivx> pelo, when i go to visit my mom i want to use the internet but not have ot pay for dial up
[03:51] <tbtrojanek> A have an Ubuntu 6.10 install right now, with a lot of crap on it, and would like it basically a fresh install.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> North64: It has most of the things a basic Desktop user would need, you install the rest on your own.
[03:51] <jrib> Skwid_: wallpaper-tray is in the repos, but I have not tried it
[03:52] <Skwid_> ok, ill look
[03:52] <jrib> Skwid_: probably
[03:52] <jrib> shane2peru: probably
[03:52] <North64> Jordan_U: thanks, will try it out, nothing like loading a new distro ;)
[03:52] <tbtrojanek> Is there an easy way to revert my system to a base Ubuntu Desktop install?(Without a CD)
[03:52] <tbtrojanek> A have an Ubuntu 6.10 install right now, with a lot of crap on it, and would like it basically a fresh install.
[03:52] <will__> I have an audio question. Which audio decoder do I need to hear mp3 audio?
[03:52] <shane2peru> jrib: so I probably need to wipe /home and re-install then?
[03:52] <Kingsqueak> tbtrojanek: don't parrot
[03:52] <ivx> pelo, any ideas on how to set that up? or would that be really hard?
[03:52] <jrib> !mp3 | will__
[03:52] <ubotu> will__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:52] <Skwid_> jrib: thank you
[03:53] <Pelo> tbtrojanek,  not that I know of,  you can try looking it up in the forum
[03:53] <North64> I assume vmware will work without issues? anyone in here using it?
[03:53] <matiu> shane2peru, Create a new user account, then copy their emptyish home dir ontop of yours
[03:53] <DjViper> will__: get easy ubuntu
[03:53] <jrib> shane2peru: well you would lose all your settings then :/
[03:53] <NoStop> North64: I use vmplayer
[03:53] <jrib> Skwid_: np
[03:53] <Plecebo> i'm having trouble mounting my dvd drive, is there anyone that can help me troubleshoot?
[03:53] <Pelo> ivx,   let me see if I get this straight,   for regular use you want dial-up and for when you visit your mom you want  high speed ?
[03:53] <shane2peru> matiu:  Thanks!  I already have a new user.
[03:53] <Jordan_U> tbtrojanek: You could get most of it back to default by running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a -phigh
[03:54] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[03:54] <Pelo> Plecebo,  you need to have a dvd in the drive for it to mount
[03:54] <shane2peru> jrib:  yeah but if I'm going to continue to run into problems with things, that may be the best way, or what matiu says.
[03:54] <ivx> pelo, i have high speed now, but when i am not home i want to be able to call my house to use dial up
[03:54] <Pelo> hello KnowledgEngi
[03:54] <tbtrojanek> Jordan_U: It's not that I uninstalled stuff, but have a bunch of excess crap installed.
[03:54] <IndyGUnFreak> will, you need to download the mp3 codecs
[03:54] <confusco> well, ivx, i think you could do that, but is it in the same area code?
[03:54] <IndyGUnFreak> are you using 6.06 or 6.10?
[03:54] <shane2peru> I will start developing my new user that I added, and won't try any new themes or changes with this user.
[03:54] <Pelo> ivx,  that's over my head , sorry
[03:55] <Plecebo> Pelo, have tried several dvd's, the icon appears on the desktop but i can not find any information on the disk, both dvd's have information on them
[03:55] <ivx> confusco, yes thanks to voip
[03:55] <shane2peru> jrib: Thanks for the help!
[03:55] <malt> what is the best and cheapeast place to get a domain, thats not godaddy or yahoo and that lets you pay by paypal or visa debit card
[03:55] <Kingsqueak> tbtrojanek: it would be easier to leave it installed fwiw, or just fire up synaptic and start selecting things to remove, but that can open a can of worms
[03:55] <IndyGUnFreak> Will, if you're not emotionally attatched to whatever media player you're using, got o the repos, and install XMMS.. it plays MP3's without installing any additional codecs
[03:55] <ivx> malt why not godaddy.com?
[03:55] <North64> what's wrong with godaddy?
[03:55] <gnuvince> How can I "reinitialize" my sound in edgy eft?
[03:55] <will__> DjViper, : I'm sorry. EASY Ubuntu?
[03:55] <ivx> yeah right!
[03:55] <Pelo> Plecebo,   I can tell you that dvd /cds mount in the /media/  folder , that's about it ,  you can try mounting them there
[03:55] <confusco> you might not get a good connection with voip.
[03:55] <Plecebo> Pelo, cd's work, but dvd's get no love
[03:55] <jrib> shane2peru: np
[03:55] <netcatc> hello all
[03:56] <will__> wow this chan is huge.
[03:56] <ivx> malt if you want to run you own apache server, they let you use there dns and modify the a record, so that will save you
[03:56] <Kingsqueak> tbtrojanek: easiest way is probably just back up your home dir and reinstall if you want a known 'sane' install
[03:56] <IndyGUnFreak> will, youcan also install automatix to install Non-Free codecs...
[03:56] <tbtrojanek> Kingsqueak: yeah, but I don't have my installation media anymore, a friend has it..
[03:56] <Pelo> will__,  don'T feel intimidated most ppl are just idling
[03:56] <Jordan_U> tbtrojanek: You would remove every package that ubuntu-desktop does not depend on ( although there may be some exceptions to be carefull of like grub ), I am trying to think of a way to automate that.
[03:56] <IndyGUnFreak> http://getautomatix.com
[03:56] <KnowledgEngi> exist some ubuntu tutorial for build a low-latency kernel under ubuntu?
[03:56] <Jordan_U> !automatix
[03:56] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:56] <Kingsqueak> tbtrojanek: yeah that makes it tough ;-) uninstalling can make a real mess if you're new to this
[03:56] <will__> IndyGUnFreak, : is that a simple sudo alt-get install
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> IndyGUnFreak, thats good, but be careful..
[03:57] <ivx> confusco, do you have any idea on how to do that
[03:57] <netcatc> does someone know where has one repository for packages : metisse
[03:57] <netcatc> nucleo
[03:57] <confusco> no, but as i said, you may not get a good connection over voip.
[03:57] <netcatc> xv_3
[03:57] <IndyGUnFreak> automatix has never given me a problem, ever
[03:57] <will__> I just wanna listen to shoutcast's stuff heh
[03:57] <LjL> !works for me | IndyGUnFreak
[03:57] <ubotu> IndyGUnFreak: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> lucky you are indy
[03:57] <KnowledgEngi> i need a low-latency kernel for becouse i use musician software, and much program for musician need "realtime" low-latency kernel
[03:57] <tbtrojanek> Kingsqueak: I'm not new to this, but I was doing that in Synaptic(for sanity reasons..) and it just shut down on me.
[03:57] <ivx> confusco, viop is was clearer than a traditional phone line, i like it way more
[03:57] <KnowledgEngi> i need a low-latency kernel becouse i use musician software, and much program for musician need "realtime" low-latency kernel
[03:57] <IndyGUnFreak> i guess so nomaster
[03:58] <ivx> confusco, vonage is very good
[03:58] <IndyGUnFreak> it worked great for me in Dapper, so when I went to edgy, i installed it again, and it has not caused me a probl
[03:58] <Pelo> KnowledgEngi,  have you tried the forum ?  and stop double posting please
[03:58] <Skwid_> anyone know of any google calendar integration in gnome ?
[03:58] <KnowledgEngi> is not double pasting
[03:58] <confusco> hm
[03:58] <LjL> IndyGUnFreak: if it floats your boat - just don't recommend it here
[03:58] <Kingsqueak> tbtrojanek: I've been doing this for a long time and have made some of my biggest messes by doing mass removal of packages, I just leave stuff kicking around now
[03:58] <Pelo> nomasteryoda,   I never had a problem with automatix either
[03:58] <IndyGUnFreak> lol, ok.
[03:58] <KnowledgEngi> is just a correction of the lust message
[03:58] <will__> ive been having problems all day
[03:58] <will__> but finally got VLC working
[03:58] <IndyGUnFreak> well, you can install XMMS from the Repos
[03:59] <will__> nvidia drivers updated.
[03:59] <DjViper> will__: welcome to my life haha
[03:59] <DjViper> t:P
[03:59] <will__> so yay 4 me.
[03:59] <IndyGUnFreak> it should play mp3's automatically
[03:59] <will__> DjViper, . I went the ubuntu route because XP was pissing me off
[03:59] <tbtrojanek> Kingsqueak: I think I'll just go through getting rid of stuff I know I don't need... Thanks though.
[03:59] <will__> I nearly threw my computer
[03:59] <will__> xmms
[03:59] <LjL> or follow the instructions on the restrictedformats page, the KDE ones aren't that hard
[03:59] <catalytic> whats a good gui for samba?
[03:59] <will__> ill try that.. i just need something simple.
[03:59] <DjViper> will__: what about?  WGA ? :P
[03:59] <will__> WGA?
[03:59] <LjL> i guess the Gnome ones can't be so terrible either
[03:59] <DjViper> Windows Genuine 'Advantage'
[04:00] <will__> DjViper, : Ive been using linux for erm.. 2 days about.
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> DjViper, ewww
[04:00] <DjViper> will__: you'll love it
[04:00] <freemind> :)
[04:00] <IndyGUnFreak> so what problems have people had with Automatix?.. this is the first i've heard this.
[04:00] <freemind> yea
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> will__, congrats
[04:00] <will__> Oh I already love it.
[04:00] <DjViper> nomasteryoda: I said the naughty word, shame on me
[04:00] <will__> thx nomaster.
[04:00] <freemind> :)
[04:00] <Jordan_U> genuin pain in the 'advantage'...
[04:00] <nn> will__: i've been using linux for about 10 years :)
[04:00] <will__> nice
[04:00] <DjViper> lol Jordan_U
[04:00] <will__> I see what all the hubub is about
[04:00] <IndyGUnFreak> i've saw it recommended on LQ many times
[04:00] <will__> linux takes like.. a second to boot up
[04:01] <freemind> will__, welcome to the penguin world :)
[04:01] <DjViper> linux is not hubbub
[04:01] <will__> im over here playing DVD's on VLC with 256mb of ram
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> will__, yes it is superb ..
[04:01] <malt> if i get a domain through godaddy, and pay them through paypal, after i pay and they have got the $$ can i remove godaddy from draft so the next year it comes time to pay it don't auto come out, i just manually pay them again?
[04:01] <will__> I doubt windows could of ever done that
[04:01] <will__> while it has 9000 processes to run.
[04:01] <DjViper> will__: hehe, yeah
[04:01] <confusco> will__ ,why didn't you like XP?
[04:01] <Pelo> nn,   please tell  Plecebo  how to mount his dvd drive manualy please
[04:01] <North64> malt: yes
[04:01] <Kingsqueak> malt: fwiw, I recommend using gandi.net they play less games
[04:01] <will__> confusco, my gf always manages to spyware it
[04:01] <LjL> IndyGUnFreak: the main problem is that you can't track problems. it messes with sources.list, install stuff weirdly, and you have no real logs of what it did. to file bug reports, you need a gmail account. their repositories' directories are 403 forbidden. it's broken many a system.
[04:01] <will__> like she has an amazing ability to do it
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> confusco, too many reasons i'm sure... the 200,000+ bits of bad code always made me cringe
[04:01] <nn> Pelo: Depends on the device
[04:02] <DjViper> will__: so she says yes alot :P
[04:02] <confusco> not like there isn't bad code in Ubuntu
[04:02] <DjViper> <- evil
[04:02] <confusco> I've noticed lots of bugs
[04:02] <will__> lol.
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> will__, i refer to that condition... of a windows box as "myspaced"
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:02] <IndyGUnFreak> i see LjL.., i guess i've been lucky, cuz it was recommended to me, and I've used it on 6.06 and 6.10, w/o any issues at all.
[04:02] <nn> Plecebo: Run dmesg|grep DVD-ROM
[04:02] <will__> is there an alt-tab equivalent?
[04:02] <DjViper> nomasteryoda: hehehe
[04:02] <will__> myspaced.. pretty much
[04:02] <will__> 'click here...'
[04:02] <will__> 'OK'
[04:02] <Pelo> will__,  yes  alt-tab
[04:02] <will__> (trojan)
[04:02] <IndyGUnFreak> although I dos eem to remember the repository issue under 6.06.., but automatix2, doesn't seem to do that under edgy...
[04:02] <malt> Kingsqueak: they don't have .us domains there
[04:02] <DjViper> alt-tab works fine
[04:02] <Kingsqueak> malt: k
[04:02] <will__> pelo LOL.
[04:02] <confusco> ya alt tab is the same
[04:03] <will__> never even tried it hehe
[04:03] <malt> Kingsqueak: know anymore thats good?
[04:03] <nn> mount /dev/`dmesg|grep DVD|cut -f 1 -d ':'|cut -f 2 -d
[04:03] <eracc> ping! Hi all, what is the Firefox extension that prevents download links from opening a new blank page/tab?
[04:03] <nn> mount /dev/`dmesg|grep DVD|cut -f 1 -d ':'|cut -f 2 -d ' '|head -1` /cdrom
[04:03] <will__> DjViper, : DO i have to uninstall after XMMS?
[04:03] <will__> err restart**
[04:03] <DjViper> will__: no?
[04:03] <Pelo> Plecebo,   what nn is saying is for you , pay attention
[04:03] <Kingsqueak> malt: nah, I have just used gandi for several years and they are honest and no trouble, register.com screwed around with me hard, I finally got completely off of them
[04:03] <Jordan_U> eracc: No extention needed, it's in the preferences
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> Will, you shouldn't have to.
[04:04] <eracc> Jordan_U, ah, ok. Thanks.
[04:04] <will__> is the rhapsody music player any good?
[04:04] <will__> or should I use something else?
[04:04] <will__> itunes for linux :o?
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> will, I like XMMS, but i'm sure opinions vary
[04:04] <nn> Plecebo: If you do 'dmesg|grep DVD' you'll get some lines similar to [17179574.308000]  hdc: BENQ DVD DD DW1620, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[04:04] <Kingsqueak> malt: the godaddy issues I've heard about have to do with the features of their domain management GUI and I've heard their service is bad if you have questions or issues
[04:04] <sn00p|> how do I make it so ubuntu when I start it auto mounts my nfs server?
[04:04] <will__> is xmms a program that plays mp3s?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> will__, er i would recommend Amarok ... supports Magnatune
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> yes WIll.
[04:04] <freemind> sn00p|, add it to /etc/fstab
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> its int he repositories
[04:04] <will__> oh, i thought it was just a driver.
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> no.
[04:04] <IndyGUnFreak> its a program
[04:04] <Jordan_U> sn00p|: By server do you mean partition?
[04:04] <jrib> will__: yes, but you can install packages to make the default programs play mp3s
[04:04] <will__> I installed it, tried to play the mp3 in rhapsody. No go.
[04:04] <sn00p|> freemind, how do I do it, mount ip:/ /home directory?
[04:05] <sn9> IndyGUnFreak: i made my own automatix/easyubuntu-type thing, but i haven't updated it for edgy yet. however, for new installations of dapper, i highly recommend it
[04:05] <DjViper> will__: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:05] <IndyGUnFreak> right, install XMMS
[04:05] <nn> Plecebo: The hdc: part is what you need to know, that's the device name of the DVD drive, so you'd do something like "mount -t iso9660,udf /dev/hdc /cdrom" or similar
[04:05] <will__> IndyGUnFreak, : its installe.d
[04:05] <IndyGUnFreak> then open XMMS, and open an MP3.
[04:05] <IndyGUnFreak> it should play
[04:05] <malt> Kingssqueak ever heard about this host www.namecheap.com ?
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> will__,  you also have to install the libs.. see the proprietary info
[04:05] <Kingsqueak> malt: nope
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> !mp3
[04:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> restricted that is
[04:05] <sn00p|> freemind, is that right?
[04:06] <freemind> sn00p|, I dont know, sorry - just take a look at google or, if already mounted look at "mount" output
[04:06] <ctkroeker> what's the general opinion towards gnewsense
[04:07] <IndyGUnFreak> the ubuntu wiki has a lot of stuff on installing mp3 codecs also...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[04:07] <freemind> :)
[04:07] <IndyGUnFreak> check 6.21
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> System timer resolution is too low
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> Rosegarden was unable to find a high-resolution timing source for MIDI
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> performance.
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> This may mean you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more
[04:08] <KnowledgEngi> information.
[04:08] <NoStop> lost autocomplete here in konversation. anyone know how to get it back?
[04:08] <Plecebo> nn, sorry I got it fixed, not sure how but i enected it and put the same dvd back in again and it worked this time... thanks for your help
[04:09] <ExxonValdeez> is it possible for me to change the start-up resolution settings? I dont see anything when I start the computer. this just when i boot into ubuntu
[04:09] <NoStop> never mind, the guy I was trying to input left, guess that's why it didn't autocomplete :-)
[04:09] <Jordan_U> !fixres | ExxonValdeez
[04:09] <ubotu> ExxonValdeez: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:09] <nn> Plecebo: ah, np
[04:09] <nn> Plecebo: Also mount /cdrom will work, assuming your /etc/fstab file is correct
[04:10] <nn> Plecebo: correction /media/cdrom0
[04:10] <capiCrimm> there isn't any default firewall running on ubuntu is there?
[04:10] <will__> thx for the info
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> capiCrimm, nope... the ports are all closed
[04:10] <nomasteryoda> unless you open them up
[04:10] <nn> ie by installing a server process
[04:10] <Bilange> capiCrimm, theres no firewall at all
[04:11] <Plecebo> nn, yea i tried that but i think my dvd drive is not mounted in /media/cdromX it is /media/dvdrecorder
[04:11] <Plecebo> nn, thanks for the help
[04:11] <nn> Plecebo: Interesting.. my dvd burner shows up as /media/cdrom0
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> !firewall
[04:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:11] <Plecebo> nn, surprised me as well, but it is mounted and working now :) thanks
[04:11] <nn> [17179574.308000]  hdc: BENQ DVD DD DW1620, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [17179574.792000]  hdc: ATAPI 40X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA (33)
[04:11] <IndyGUnFreak> will, did it work?
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> i prefer guarddog
[04:13] <will__> IndyGUnFreak,  eh, im still reading through this
[04:13] <IndyGUnFreak> oh ok.
[04:13] <will__> did the XMMS thing work? I havent tried. I was told I have to install the libraries still right?>
[04:13] <IndyGUnFreak> no
[04:13] <IndyGUnFreak> XMMS automatically plays MP3s
[04:14] <will__> where is xmms located? and is there a command I can run to always find what folder a file is in?
[04:14] <freemind> yes
[04:14] <freemind> "which"
[04:14] <freemind> try: which xmms
[04:14] <will__> k
[04:14] <IndyGUnFreak> if you installed it, it should be in your Sound/Video menu
[04:14] <will__> its in usr/bin
[04:14] <IndyGUnFreak> ok
[04:14] <IndyGUnFreak> open a terminal
[04:14] <freemind> that dir should be in your $PATH
[04:14] <IndyGUnFreak> and just type xmms
[04:14] <IndyGUnFreak> it should start
[04:14] <freemind> yes :)
[04:14] <freemind> exactly
[04:15] <freemind> IndyGUnFreak, what about gattlings guns? ;P
[04:15] <will__> it works
[04:15] <will__> I know that much
[04:15] <will__> but im trying to play a .pls file
[04:15] <IndyGUnFreak> lol, not a big fan of civil war memorbilia...lol
[04:15] <freemind> :)
[04:15] <IndyGUnFreak> ok, you asked about mp3's..
[04:15] <freemind> yea
[04:15] <IndyGUnFreak> i have no idea hat a .pls file is
[04:15] <will__> well thats a playlist for them right?
[04:15] <freemind> just press ctrl+L in xxms
[04:15] <freemind> xmms
[04:15] <freemind> and enter the url
[04:16] <will__> yea
[04:16] <will__> that works
[04:16] <will__> lol
[04:16] <will__> nice
[04:16] <freemind> :) just like in winamp
[04:16] <will__> I've got a nice setup here.
[04:16] <freemind> =))
[04:16] <will__> I always wanted one of those gateway computers
[04:16] <freemind> hug the penguin
[04:16] <will__> with the 32" screen.. like in 1995
[04:16] <will__> I have it hooked up to my 42" plasma downstairs.
[04:16] <NoStop> Does Beep Media Player require codecs to play mp3s or does it have it builtin like xmms?
[04:16] <will__> so i can play my borrowed' dvds.
[04:16] <IndyGUnFreak> nostop
[04:16] <will__> and radio action
[04:16] <IndyGUnFreak> i think it requires them
[04:17] <will__> thanks so much guys
[04:17] <Plecebo> anyone know a good method for converting lots of audio files/formats (aac ogg flac mp3) to one format (mp3 or ogg) easily?
[04:17] <IndyGUnFreak> no prob will.
[04:17] <IndyGUnFreak> i dont' use beep though, so i'm not positive, XMMS is the only one I know of that plays tem automatically
[04:19] <freemind> Plecebo, look for "audacity"
[04:19] <freemind> in synaptic
[04:19] <freemind> :)
[04:20] <Plecebo> freemind, i've got audacity, didnt know it could do that :) thanks i'll look into it :D
[04:20] <freemind> np :)
[04:20] <mikefoo> Anyone know what bios option to power on server with AC is plugged in?
[04:22] <spunconfuse> ubuntu rules :D
[04:23] <Asc> I need to repair a filesystem that cannot be accessed while dismounted.  If no files are open, how dangerous is this?
[04:23] <IndyGUnFreak> anyone know of a way to crack a LEGALLY OBTAINED DRM file, and change it to a Mp3?  I use(d) a program under Windows called Tunebite,
[04:25] <IndyGUnFreak> room got quiet
[04:26] <sc4ttrbrain> !aiglx
[04:26] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:26] <sc4ttrbrain> !xgl
[04:26] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:27] <Duck_> what is that file that i need to get into to activate universe again?
[04:27] <kalikiana> Duck_: sources.list
[04:28] <Duck_> kalikiana: whats the path?
[04:28] <kishan> hi
[04:28] <kishan> any body home
[04:28] <kalikiana> Duck_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <kalikiana> kishan: yep
[04:28] <kishan> i am new to this chat
[04:28] <kishan> thak you kalokiana
[04:29] <kishan> kalikiana
[04:29] <kishan> so u are team of ubuntu
[04:29] <kishan> ???
[04:29] <thevenin> no kishan just a help channel for ubuntu
[04:29] <kishan> cool
[04:30] <kishan> i have been using ubuntu for few weeks its really cool this is first time i am using linux and its great
[04:30] <ripper> does anyone know why the screensavers freeze edgy? and why usplash dont show a splash @ boot (when loading the system, before gnome)
[04:30] <kalikiana> kishan: it's cool indeed, if anything just ask, but we are no officials :)
[04:31] <sn9> ripper: on some older video cards, not all vga modes work
[04:31] <IndyGUnFreak> kishan, you chose a good version to start with
[04:31] <erider> how do I get opengl working on my 64bit system?
[04:32] <IndyGUnFreak> i went through hell before finally finding a distro that works.
[04:32] <thinh> hi anyone here?
[04:32] <IndyGUnFreak> no
[04:32] <thinh> lol
[04:32] <sn9> erider: ati, nvidia, or something else?
[04:32] <kishan> nice, well i have one question --- When i am booting the ubunu edgy i  pressed alt+f1 to look how it boots i ffound that ACTIVATING SWAP has failed
[04:32] <thinh> anyone expert in getting tv tuner card?
[04:32] <IndyGUnFreak> thinh
[04:33] <IndyGUnFreak> i wouldn't say i'm an expert, but i've gotten mine working..
[04:33] <kishan> and i want to know how does it effect my system
[04:33] <kitche> kishan: can you paste /etc/fstab
[04:33] <kitche> kishan: swap is like a pagefile
[04:33] <sn9> kishan: it means virtual memory won't work
[04:33] <IndyGUnFreak> what kind of card do you have thinh
[04:33] <kishan> oooh
[04:33] <thinh> how u send private message?
[04:33] <kishan> what can i do
[04:33] <kishan> now
[04:33] <IndyGUnFreak> i think you have to be registered.
[04:33] <DisabledDuck> whats the best p2p program on Linux?
[04:33] <thinh> so long i havent used irc
[04:34] <LjL> !best
[04:34] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:34] <thinh> i have a saa7134 card
[04:34] <DisabledDuck> ljl, i'm asking for opinions, not facts
[04:34] <IndyGUnFreak> hmm.
[04:34] <thinh> i have a ati radeon x1600
[04:34] <kitche> kishan: how much ram do you have?
[04:34] <thinh> i got my ati setup correct
[04:34] <LjL> you just asked what's the best p2p program... anyway, make your own opinion - try them
[04:34] <thinh> the thing is kernel see my card but i cant use it
[04:34] <DisabledDuck> ok, fine, what are some p2p programs for Linux?
[04:35] <noodles12> what p2p programs do you guys use?
[04:35] <kishan> i have 512 mb ram
[04:35] <thinh> dmesg show it and also lspci aswell
[04:35] <LjL> !p2p
[04:35] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:35] <slavik> thinh: what driver are you using?
[04:35] <IndyGUnFreak> thinh, are you using edgy?
[04:35] <thinh> saa7134
[04:35] <DisabledDuck> how do i get frostwire?
[04:35] <thinh> i am using edgy
[04:35] <kishan> this is my fstab
[04:35] <IndyGUnFreak> ok, hangon
[04:35] <kishan> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:35] <kishan> #
[04:35] <kishan> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:35] <kishan> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:35] <kishan> # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:35] <kishan> UUID=6a37eb62-0de4-464d-a71a-93b270b6b57c / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[04:35] <DjViper> good night all
[04:35] <kishan> # /dev/hda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:35] <kishan> UUID=48EC0AFBEC0AE2D4 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[04:35] <LjL> i'd also mention aMule, dcgui and Gift
[04:35] <kitche> !paste
[04:35] <kishan> # /dev/hda6 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:35] <kishan> UUID=33617a89-0446-47a3-a9ea-8679352d44ac none swap sw 0 0
[04:35] <thevenin> kishan: pastebin
[04:35] <kishan> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:35] <thinh> i dont have /etc/video0
[04:36] <thinh> but dmesg says i do
[04:36] <slavik> thinh: do you 'need' video?
[04:36] <kitche> well it looks like he doesn't have a swap at all
[04:36] <thinh> yeah i need video for tv tuner
[04:36] <DisabledDuck> can anyone tell me how to get frostwire?
[04:37] <slavik> thinh: does your ati card have a tv tuner?
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell DisabledDuck about frostwire | DisabledDuck, you have a private message from Ubotu
[04:37] <kitche> !frostwire|DisabledDuck
[04:37] <ubotu> DisabledDuck: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:37] <thinh> nope
[04:37] <thinh> i have a seperate tv tuner
[04:37] <kitche> LjL: do you have those on binds? :P
[04:37] <thinh> compro tv tuner
[04:37] <IndyGUnFreak> what kind of tuner do you have?
[04:37] <erider> how do I get opengl working on my 64bit system?
[04:37] <slavik> thinh: ahh, I see ... do 'lspci' and pastebin the output
[04:37] <LjL> kitche: regexp autoreplaces
[04:37] <IndyGUnFreak> hell i thought you were saying you had an ATI tuner...lol
[04:38] <LjL> kitche: i just type factoid > someone (with a real exclamation mark of course)
[04:38] <sn9> erider: ati, nvidia, or something else?
[04:38] <thinh> what the adress of pastabin?
[04:38] <DisabledDuck> ljl: thx
[04:38] <erider> sn9 I have nvidia-glx install on my system but I need opengl
[04:38] <slavik> !pastebin
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:39] <slavik> erider: install libmesa-gl1 ... not sure if that's the exact package name
[04:39] <Jordan_U> erider: You already have openGL.
[04:40] <thinh> my pastabin link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33204/
[04:40] <sn9> erider: if you have a recent nvidia card, installing linux-amd64-generic and nvidia-glx should be sufficient.
[04:40] <james_> hello, can someone help me I am trying to uninstall the ati drivers and install the nvidia drivers?
[04:40] <lakbu> hi guys
[04:40] <erider> slavik: thats not the right one
[04:40] <slavik> erider: I am not sure what you mean by getting opengl to work ...
[04:40] <Jordan_U> erider: What exactly happens when you try to run an openGL program?
[04:40] <erider> sn9 I have a laptop
[04:41] <slavik> !ru
[04:41] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:41] <thinh> i try xawtv it gives me a black screen and i have to ctrl alt back to get into x wiindow
[04:42] <erider> Jordan_U: I'm trying to run a program that needs opengl but its not working. Its complaining
[04:42] <slavik> erider: what are the complaints?
[04:42] <sn9> slavik: who was that aimed at?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> erider: What program, and can you pastebin the error?
[04:42] <Nimism1> hello, i have recantly installed a dual boot onto my machine with windows XP and when i select Windows XP in the GRUB it will restart my system and make me do it all over again making it an endless cycle
[04:43] <thinh> weird thing is xawtv seems to be working before i installed fglrx drivers
[04:43] <slavik> sn9: what are you reffering to?
[04:43] <taebo-> Does anyone know how to set up openGL direct rendering in ubuntu 6?
[04:43] <sn9> slavik: the !ru you typed
[04:43] <slavik> thinh: in terminal 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[04:43] <slavik> sn9: myself
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !fglrx | taebo-
[04:43] <ubotu> taebo-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <kishan> hi
[04:44] <slavik> sn9: for some weird reason those don't look like cyrilic characters to me
[04:44] <taebo-> Thx jordan_u
[04:44] <thinh> the answer is yes
[04:44] <erider> Jordan_U: a program called factor
[04:44] <sn9> slavik: are you running *buntu?
[04:44] <slavik> thinh: then everything should be working ...
[04:44] <slavik> sn9: edgy :)
[04:44] <slavik> sn9: I wrote the message that is supposed to be in cyrilic ...
[04:44] <erider> Jordan_U: Could not get a double-buffered GLX RGBA visual
[04:44] <thinh> when i try to run tvtime it flashes and goes away
[04:45] <erider> Jordan_U: thats the error
[04:45] <thinh> i dont even have a chance to see if there is an error or something
[04:45] <zillabox> good day
[04:45] <kishan> I have a problem when i try to boot from edgy  i press alt=f1 to see how it is booting i notice that the ACTIVATING SWAP has failed can any one help me plese
[04:45] <sn9> you did? i remember being asked to write it a long time ago, and it hasn't changed since
[04:45] <zillabox> im using a giga card right now
[04:45] <slavik> thinh: run it from a terminal
[04:45] <zillabox> and the ubuntu OS already saw the giga card
[04:45] <kishan> and my ram is 512 mb
[04:46] <slavik> sn9:   :P
[04:46] <zillabox> but it won't retrieve any ip add from the server
[04:46] <zillabox> what should i do
[04:46] <slavik> ahh, I realised something ...
[04:46] <zillabox> i need help guys
[04:46] <thinh> Running tvtime 1.0.1.
[04:46] <thinh> Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
[04:46] <thinh> Reading configuration from /home/thinh/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
[04:46] <thinh> xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[04:46] <thinh> *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
[04:46] <thinh> *** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
[04:46] <kitche> kishan: pastebin your /etc/fstab so I can look at it more closer sicne irc bites for pasting and you get kicked for spamming :P
[04:46] <thinh> *** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
[04:46] <thinh> *** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
[04:46] <thinh> *** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
[04:46] <thinh> *** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
[04:46] <thinh> *** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.
[04:46] <slavik> !pastebin>thinh
[04:46] <kishan> how to paste it kitche
[04:47] <Clinton__> woaaaah
[04:47] <lakbu> can i morph an ubuntu server into a media server?
[04:47] <slavik> lakbu: AFAIK, ubuntu-server is a cut down version of ubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <kitche> !pastebin>kishan
[04:47] <thinh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33209/
[04:47] <thinh> same link
[04:48] <zillabox> i need help guys
[04:48] <kishan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33205/
[04:48] <Jordan_U> lakbu: Yes, what specifically do you want the server to do?
[04:48] <zillabox> and the ubuntu OS already saw the giga card
[04:48] <kishan> this is it
[04:48] <zillabox> but it won't retrieve any ip add from the server
[04:48] <lakbu> slavik: what does it take to make it a media server? what are the components taht need to be installed. im llookiing for an alternative of the windoze media server
[04:48] <kishan> anything else kitche
[04:48] <slavik> zillabox: by server you mean dhcp server?
[04:48] <zillabox> yes sir
[04:48] <slavik> lakbu: media server as a streaming stuff thingy?
[04:49] <slavik> zillabox: are you in ubuntu right now?
[04:49] <zillabox> im working with a new dhcp server using giga network
[04:49] <lakbu> slavik: yes.
[04:49] <zillabox> 5.10
[04:49] <confusco> why is it that when I copy from something, and then close it, paste no longer works?
[04:49] <kitche> kishan: well you have a swap not sure why you have # at the start of each device line though
[04:49] <slavik> lakbu: you need to stream music (shoutcast?), video (also shoutcast?) ... and other stuff
[04:49] <zillabox> im trying to test it in our existing network
[04:49] <Jordan_U> lakbu: I would recommend knoppmyth, it is a distribution made specifically for this.
[04:49] <Clinton__> confusco: guessing here, the copy is actually a reference point in memory that no longer exists when you close it
[04:49] <slavik> zillabox: in network, try 'dhclient eth0'
[04:50] <lakbu> slavik: yes. videos.
[04:50] <zillabox> but it won't retrieve any ip from the server
[04:50] <zillabox> ok, for a while =)
[04:50] <kishan> say i know that i have a swap but it says it is failed
[04:50] <kishan> is there any thing wrong with fstab
[04:50] <lakbu> Jordan_U: thanks. it's a debian based distro?
[04:50] <kishan> i have upgraded from drapper to edgy
[04:50] <Jordan_U> lakbu: Yes, based on knoppix
[04:50] <slavik> lakbu: I really dunno tbh, never set one up ...
[04:50] <kishan> may be this is the reason for it
[04:50] <kitche> kishan: like I said don't know why # is at the beginning of each device line that might cause some problems
[04:50] <sn9> kishan: yes, the edgy upgrader screwed it up a bit
[04:51] <slavik> sn9: what is the proper code for Koi8 encoding?
[04:51] <kishan> So what can i do now
[04:51] <slavik> koi8-r ?
[04:51] <kishan> do i need to reinstall
[04:51] <sn9> slavik: yes
[04:51] <slavik> ty
[04:51] <kitche> kishan: by chance how did you upgrade?
[04:51] <slavik> brb :)
[04:52] <kishan> using UPGRADE
[04:52] <lakbu> Jordan_U: thanks. can i dual a mysql server and apache server into a knoppmyth box too?
[04:52] <kishan> UPDATE MANAGER
[04:52] <zillabox> slavik - NO DHCPOFFERS RECIEVED
[04:52] <zillabox> any other options?
[04:53] <zillabox> slavik - NO DHCPOFFERS RECIEVED
[04:53] <zillabox> any other options?
[04:53] <zillabox> i already did the dhclient
[04:53] <Jordan_U> lakbu: Of course, I don't know what features knoppmyth has though, it may be easier just to set up MythTV on Ubuntu if you want other functions also.
[04:53] <slavik> zillabox: pastebin output from 'ifconfig'
[04:53] <slavik> !ru
[04:53] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:53] <Lam_> is the xine engine capable of playing wma lossless files?
[04:53] <slavik> hmm, still garbage to me, sn9, type something in russian
[04:53] <thinh> any luck slavik?
[04:53] <zillabox> I can't, it's in the other workstation
[04:54] <kitche> kishan: well I would try and remove those # and -converted lines from your fstab
[04:54] <slavik> thinh: the tvtime issue? looks like lacking driver support
[04:54] <zillabox> but there's no present private exist
[04:54] <lambo4jos> anyone know how to install subversion 1.3.2 on dapper and all of its requirements?
[04:54] <thinh> oh
[04:54] <zillabox> if i command ifconfig
[04:54] <zillabox> but there's no present ip private exist
[04:54] <confusco> why is it that when I copy from something, and then close it, paste no longer works?
[04:54] <sn9> slavik: i'm on utf-8 right now, but ok:
[04:54] <slavik> zillabox: ??? no network interfaces?
[04:54] <kishan> hmmm i am on dual boot with xp
[04:54] <slavik> sn9: looks like garbage
[04:54] <lakbu> Jordan_U: thanks!
[04:54] <zillabox> there eth0
[04:54] <thinh> which driver ? tv tuner driver or tvtime?
[04:54] <zillabox> nut no ip add
[04:54] <kishan> does it have an effect
[04:54] <zillabox> but no ip add
[04:54] <zillabox> but no private ip add
[04:55] <zillabox> there's eth0
[04:55] <zillabox> in the ifconfig
[04:55] <kitche> kishan: not that I m aware of
[04:55] <kishan> ok thanks so you think there was problem when i was upgrading
[04:55] <kitche> kishan: also highlight a person by saying their name it's easy for the other person to notice what you say
[04:55] <Jordan_U> lambo4jos: sudo apt-get install subversion ?
[04:55] <kishan> ok ok
[04:55] <kishan> kitche : sorry i am new to this chat
[04:56] <slavik> sn9:   ?
[04:56] <sn9> looks fine
[04:56] <kishan> kitche: So the problem is with the upgrade is it right
[04:56] <lakbu> Jordan_U: i think MythTV or knoppmyth is what i need. i want to setup a streaming media server. :)
[04:56] <slavik> sn9: weird, it doesn't read utf-8 properly ...
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !mythtv | lakbu
[04:57] <ubotu> lakbu: mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:57] <kitche> kishan: most likely since it is known to break a system on update it works fine on a fresh install
[04:57] <lambo4jos> Jordan_U:  i think that will install 1.3.1
[04:57] <confusco> privet
[04:57] <kishan> But i have a drapper cd
[04:57] <zillabox> need help guys
[04:58] <zillabox> i need help guys
[04:58] <kitche> kishan: dapper is still stable
[04:58] <kishan> kitche: i have drapper cd so i install with it again
[04:58] <thinh> its seems vlc is getting some thing from my card
[04:58] <thevenin> i run dapper now, like it better more stable
[04:58] <thevenin> excelent for servers
[04:58] <Jordan_U> zillabox: What kind of help?
[04:58] <kishan> kitche: so then i can upgrade using atitude
[04:58] <roostishaw> anyone, can i install beryl on a virtule machine running ubuntu on my mac?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> roostishaw: No :(
[04:59] <slavik> sn9: weird :(
[04:59] <kitche> kishan: well I would stay with dapper for a bit if you don't want to download edgy cd
[04:59] <roostishaw> Jordan_U, why not?
[04:59] <sn9> kishan: you may be interested in this: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-June/002071.html
[04:59] <Jordan_U> roostishaw: parrallels does not support 3D acceleration.
[05:00] <thinh> the strange thing is when i do scantv it does finds channels
[05:00] <roostishaw> Jordan_U, oh... well, thank you
[05:01] <rad|x> hi, how do i configure my screen resolutions in 6.10?
[05:01] <rad|x> i only have 800x600 available
[05:01] <kishan> sn9: i am not much into computers
[05:01] <arepie> how to fix this warning?? --> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[05:01] <kishan> sn9: what does it say
[05:01] <sn9> kishan: that's the whole point
[05:01] <Jordan_U> !fixres | rad|x
[05:01] <ubotu> rad|x: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:02] <rad|x> cool stuff Jordan_U
[05:02] <sn9> kishan: it's a dapper setup for those who don't really know what they're doing
[05:02] <Jordan_U> arepie: That error is fine, it is because you are using the open source reverse engineered ATI drivers.
[05:03] <kishan> sn9: so u mean after intalling drapper i should do that
[05:03] <sn9> right
[05:04] <kevin> hello
[05:06] <kalikiana> hello, kevin
[05:06] <sn9> so, nobody else has any ideas on how to get my firefox to work again?
[05:07] <kalikiana> oh, already gone
[05:07] <kitche> sn9: what happened with your firefox?
[05:07] <Jordan_U> sn9: Say again please what is wrong with firefox?
[05:08] <sn9> kitche, Jordan_U: after a breezy-to-dapper upgrade, it SIGILLs
[05:08] <kitche> sn9: segfaults?
[05:08] <Jordan_U> sn9: Tried a dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:08] <sn9> kitche: SIGILL, not SIGSEGV
[05:09] <sn9> Jordan_U: of what? firefox itself?
[05:09] <Jordan_U> sn9: Yes.
[05:09] <sn9> i tried reinstalling it, but will now try reconfig
[05:10] <kitche> sn9: ah so it does an illegal instruction hmm that seems very odd to me
[05:10] <arepie> Jordan_U: sometimes.. after some period of using compiz/aiglx, my X will crashed automaticaly.. what cause that to happen?
[05:10] <K^Holtz> hi sn9: i upgraded for real this time.. but now im getting an 'index is broken' error when i click the update button in the tray
[05:10] <rickyfingers> sn9: how about opening a terminal and typing mozilla-firefox 2>1&1 | tee firefox-error.log
[05:11] <kitche> K^Holtz: you have to apt-get update most likely
[05:11] <Jordan_U> arepie: Try #ubuntu-xgl for more help with beryl / compiz issues.
[05:11] <rickyfingers> sn9: then any kind of messages firefox puts out before it crashes will be in that firefox-error.log
[05:12] <rickyfingers> sn9: then you can pastebin it and anyone here can have a  look
[05:12] <K^Holtz> kitche: sortware index is still broken
[05:12] <frantic> Does anyone know about burning DVDs in linux?  I came here once and someone gave me an excellent page that had all the commands and resolutions of various types of dvd and i can't believe i didnt' bookmark it
[05:12] <kitche> K^Holtz: even after a sudo apt-get update?
[05:12] <kalikiana> frantic: graveman
[05:13] <rickyfingers> !dvd
[05:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:13] <K^Holtz> kitche: it did say E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. after the update
[05:13] <rickyfingers> !dvd | K^Holtz
[05:13] <ubotu> K^Holtz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:13] <kitche> !burning>frantic
[05:13] <rad|x> If i am running ubuntu within vmware, should i select VMware video driver?
[05:13] <sn9> rickyfingers: i don't need to pastebin, as it's only one line:
[05:13] <rad|x> or usual vesa will do?
[05:13] <K^Holtz> rickyfingers: ??
[05:14] <nothlit> Can someone tell me why it seems like I'm missing a beagle documentation backend?
[05:14] <sn9> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[05:14] <rickyfingers> K^Holtz: my bad, I sent to the wrong person.
[05:14] <mr_daemon> Hello -- I'm having trouble mounting a smb/cifs share... No matter what I do, it always comes out as being read only, even though permissions and mount options say otherwise...
[05:14] <frantic> ok thanks
[05:14] <mr_daemon> Any ideas?
[05:14] <rickyfingers> !dvd | frantic
[05:14] <ubotu> frantic: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:15] <rickyfingers> mr_deamon: this is a wild guess, but maybe you need ntfs write capability compiled into your kernel
[05:15] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to get this page working in Ubuntu? http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes
[05:15] <kitche> rickyfingers: that's for watching dvd's not burning it
[05:16] <mr_daemon> rickyfingers, I doubt it has anything to do with smb/cifs...
[05:16] <rickyfingers> mr_daemon: like I said, wild guess. I take it what you are talking about has nothing to do with SAMBA
[05:16] <mr_daemon> rickyfingers, In fact, it does.
[05:16] <K^Holtz> hmm it actually still says i have dapper after downloading over 800 files
[05:16] <rickyfingers> mr_daemon: or smba or however one spells it.
[05:17] <thinh> how to i get into the kernel editing mode? my menuconfig is not working
[05:17] <sn9> rickyfingers: kernel-level ntfs write support is obsolete/deprecated -- where have you been?
[05:17] <mr_daemon> rickyfingers, smb is pretty much the protocol spoken by samba.
[05:17] <rickyfingers> sn9: maybe I'm using the wrong terminology, when you do  make menuconfig
[05:18] <kitche> thinh: make menumenuconfig there is also an X version of it called make xconfig
[05:18] <sn9> rickyfingers: that's obsolete/deprecated
[05:18] <fysaen> good morning everyone =)
[05:18] <rickyfingers> sn9: when compiling <IP_ADDRESS>, under filesystems->ntfs->ntfs write support
[05:18] <sn9> rickyfingers: never ever enable that
[05:18] <rickyfingers> sn9: the default .config from the edgy install does not have that option set to yes
[05:18] <Jordan_U> !fuse | rickyfingers
[05:18] <ubotu> rickyfingers: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:19] <kitche> rickyfingers: the stable version is actually in 2.6.19
[05:19] <rickyfingers> kitche: stable version of ntfs write module?
[05:19] <kitche> rickyfingers: yes according to what I have been reading
[05:19] <Jordan_U> rickyfingers: That is an oximoron :)
[05:20] <rickyfingers> Jordan_U: heh
[05:20] <Jordan_U> rickyfingers: Use fuse instead.
[05:20] <sn9> if you want stable ntfs, ONLY use the fuse thing
[05:20] <Phuzion> !bonecho
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonecho - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Phuzion> !bon echo
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bon echo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Phuzion> !firefox 2.0
[05:20] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[05:21] <kitche> Jorda_U: well according to lmk there is a stable ntfs write mode in 2.6.19 haven't tried it myself yet since it's still in the early stages
[05:21] <rickyfingers> kitche: looking at kernel.org... latest prepatch for stable kernel is 2.6.19-rc6
[05:21] <sn9> kitche: that doesn't make sense
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Phuzion: It was only called bon echo during Beta
[05:21] <rickyfingers> kitche: so it's still just a release candidate
[05:22] <K^Holtz> can someone please try to help me with this error?
[05:22] <KnowledgEngi> there is some channel for support about ubuntu kernel building ???
[05:22] <Phuzion> Jordan_U:  I'm aware of that, I was just wondering if it was still in the repositores as bon echo, or if it got updated to 2.0 yet
[05:23] <K^Holtz> Software Index not found
[05:23] <KnowledgEngi> in the channel #ubuntu-kernel the people tall that do not give support
[05:23] <zircx> anyone run the ubuntu server?
[05:23] <Phuzion> zircx:  which one?
[05:23] <kitche> KnowledgEngi: not really but it's pretty much the same for all distros on how you make a kernel
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Phuzion: In Edgy the "firefox" package is firefox 2.0 , for dapper it may be in backports
[05:24] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: I've already volunteered THREE TIMES to walk you through it.
[05:24] <kitche> Phuzion: yes firefox 2.0 is in dapper-backports for dapper
[05:24] <KnowledgEngi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28CategoryKernel%29
[05:24] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: I don't know how much clearer I can make it
[05:24] <KnowledgEngi> i'm reading this document
[05:24] <zircx> Phuzion, wanting to set up a file server / apache with mysql , php / samba (print server) / mail server ..
[05:24] <zircx> just trying to get a feel for what I'm going to use to achieve that ..
[05:24] <KnowledgEngi> but i have some problem using it
[05:24] <KnowledgEngi> becouse some directory do not exist
[05:25] <Geewiz> just one quick question, how can I get to the ubuntu partition manager?
[05:25] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: if you're wanting to use -rt, please use a vanilla kernel. DO NOT attempt to use the low latency and/or rt patches with patches Ubunt linux source.
[05:25] <Phuzion> ubotu, tell zircx about LAMP
[05:25] <frantic> Hey, does anyone here have a System76 computer?
[05:25] <KnowledgEngi> .  debian/config/i386/
[05:25] <mr_daemon> Okay my windows share always comes out as read only no matter what I do when mounted... any ideas?
[05:25] <KnowledgEngi> this directory do not exist into linux-source directory
[05:25] <kitche> KnowledgEngi: I usually use a vanilla kernel
[05:25] <Phuzion> zircx, did ubotu message you?
[05:25] <Jordan_U>  Geewiz: System -> Administration -> gnome partition editor.
[05:25] <rickyfingers> KnowlegEngi: this is what I do: download/uncompress kernel source tree
[05:25] <mister_roboto> Jordan_U: that link you sent about fuse on ubuntu wiki is only for dapper. does the very same work on edgy?
[05:25] <kitche> KnowledgEngi: you probably have a vanilla source then
[05:25] <Geewiz> thx
[05:26] <zircx> Phuzion, thanks i'll have a nosey
[05:26] <rickyfingers> knowldegEngi:the just follow directions in the README
[05:26] <zircx> Phuzion, do you use ubuntu for your server?
[05:26] <Phuzion> Yes
[05:26] <frantic> mrdaemon, you mean network share?
[05:26] <KnowledgEngi> i just need a kernel that solve this problem
[05:26] <KnowledgEngi> System timer resolution is too low Rosegarden was unable to find a high-resolution timing source for MIDI performance. This may mean you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more information.
[05:26] <zircx> how do you find it from a personal perspective using it..
[05:26] <Jordan_U> mister_roboto: I don't use windows and therefore am not burdened with such things :P ( I have no idea ) :)
[05:26] <Phuzion> its easy to install
[05:26] <Phuzion> however, to get things to your liking, you will need to do some tweaking
[05:26] <zircx> i see
[05:27] <Phuzion> but that is to be expected with all webserver packages
[05:27] <rickyfingers> knowldegEngi: hmmm. don't know for sure, but sounds like you might have to end up tweaking actual source code
[05:27] <SilentSnow> Hi, I'm very very very new to ubuntu, and hardly have any clue what i'm diong, could someone please explain to me in very easy to follow steps how to install a wusb54g v4 wireless adapter to me please?
[05:27] <joedj> how do i perform a server install of edgy?
[05:27] <Phuzion> for example, I wanted to use vhosts so I could have my administration tools on a different port, so I had to mess with apache's config file and create some vhost blocks
[05:27] <KnowledgEngi> somebody tall that i need a low-latency kernel
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> joedj: dl the server ISO, away you go
[05:27] <KnowledgEngi> and i need use jackd too
[05:28] <joedj> tonyyarusso, doh. i already have the install/live dvd
[05:28] <KnowledgEngi> for install jack i have no problem
[05:28] <KnowledgEngi> the problem is the kernel
[05:28] <Phuzion> zircx:  you may also want to read up on http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 if you want to do a little more indepth reading on the subject
[05:28] <zircx> Phuzion, that's pretty simple stuff, but that makes sense.. I was more concerned with the mail server side.. apache / php / mysql is a walk in the park
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> joedj: Well, it can still be done, but the server CD makes it really easy
[05:28] <Phuzion> mail server isn't crazy hard, just read some documentation, and know what you want to do before you dive into it
[05:28] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: technically it's just the HZ parameter
[05:29] <Phuzion> like, know how you'd like to have it configured so you can stay on task when writing/modifying config files and whatnot
[05:29] <zircx> i know what I want.. it's just seeing how much pain i'm going to have to go through in changing stuff around and the functionality
[05:29] <zircx> lol
[05:29] <KnowledgEngi> did you read the error returned by rosegarden?
[05:29] <Phuzion> exactly, that's how it always is, just figuring out what you want to do
[05:29] <Phuzion> lol
[05:29] <zircx> oh postfix, interesting, I've dabbled in that a little.
[05:29] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes.
[05:30] <KnowledgEngi> and wath you suggest ?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> SilentSnow: Did it work on the LiveCD?
[05:30] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: change the HZ parameter
[05:30] <SilentSnow> nope
[05:30] <SilentSnow> it didnt
[05:30] <aj_> anyone here try to install kxdocker?
[05:30] <zircx> well that looks relatively simple the
[05:30] <zircx> 'the perfect setup'
[05:31] <Jordan_U> aj_: Try #kubuntu , they are the KDE people :)
[05:31] <aj_> oh ok
[05:31] <joejaxx> How are all you Ubuntu users doing today? :)
[05:31] <Phuzion> joejaxx, I'm well, and yourself?
[05:31] <KnowledgEngi> cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/config
[05:31] <rickyfingers> !dvd: rickyfingers
[05:31] <joejaxx> Phuzion: i am well
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd: rickyfingers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <Jordan_U> joejaxx: Awesome
[05:31] <Phuzion> excellent
[05:31] <zircx> I'm a slack user whose getting lazy, that's how I am today..
[05:32] <KnowledgEngi> correcy crimsun
[05:32] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: no. Use a vanilla kernel if you're going to attempt to use rt/ll
[05:32] <Phuzion> joejaxx, is there something that we can help you out with today, or are you just coming to chat and offer help?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> !dvd | rickyfingers
[05:32] <ubotu> rickyfingers: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:32] <joejaxx> Phuzion: i am  actually here to help
[05:32] <KnowledgEngi> i need to download vannilla kernel source?
[05:32] <Phuzion> great
[05:32] <Jordan_U> rickyfingers: You can also /msg ubotu directly
[05:32] <KnowledgEngi> vanilla
[05:33] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes
[05:33] <balder> hi
[05:33] <Phuzion> ps, zircx, if you need any help with LAMP or other server applications, don't hesitate to PM me
[05:33] <Shadowpillar> the latest vmware player for dapper 64 bit is broken
[05:33] <KnowledgEngi> i search this ssource by synaptic
[05:33] <Phuzion> I'm always up for a little challenge and I love helping people if I can
[05:33] <Klick> Hey all, Im using gnome, and I have 2 virtual desktops. Im curently on Desktop #1, and I was wondering if there is a way via terminal to tell a program to launch on Desktop #2?
[05:34] <zircx> Phuzion, erm, I'm just looking at this and it looks like I'll have to download the iso ... i don't think I want to do that..
[05:34] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: no, download the latest stable from www.kernel.org
[05:34] <balder> hello, I got a question how to i can change to some IRC on spanish
[05:34] <joejaxx> Klick: i do not think so
[05:34] <Phuzion> zircx:  You should be able to get all of those programs from the repositories, then modify them to fit your needs
[05:34] <joejaxx> balder: gnome-terminal does not display the accents right?
[05:35] <balder> so I only speak spanish my ubuntu is in spanish
[05:35] <cmweb> ljl, ok so i dont mess up. How do i make access to the www areaa aagain. Im supposed to become a member of www-daata or something
[05:35] <KnowledgEngi> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[05:35] <rickyfingers> Jordan_U: thanks for the hint like /msg ubotu <whatever keyword>?
[05:35] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, this??
[05:35] <balder> but show me the IRC on english
[05:36] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes
[05:36] <cmweb> balder #ubuntu-sp
[05:36] <cmweb> i think
[05:36] <joejaxx> balder: which irc client are you trying to change?
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> cmeme: fixed the issue
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> er
[05:36] <Shadowpillar> cmweb
[05:36] <balder> well  my problem is that
[05:37] <madmazz> hi
[05:37] <joejaxx> balder: there is also #ubuntu-es where they speak spanish
[05:37] <balder> I got just 2 days whit  Linux
[05:37] <cmweb> Shadowpillar, yes?
[05:37] <joejaxx> balder: you might want to join #ubuntu-es i think it whould be to your benefit :)
[05:37] <Shadowpillar> cmweb: I said I fixed the issue
[05:38] <madmazz> how on earth i am supposed to reset network? i mean with other distros is just rm pid file and issue dhcp again
[05:38] <balder> yesterday a play with a Terminal
[05:38] <madmazz> how do I do on Ubuntu?
[05:38] <joejaxx> madmazz: sudo dhclient networkinterfacename
[05:38] <catalytic_> lol
[05:38] <balder> thansk joejaxx
[05:38] <catalytic_> install it on a machine
[05:38] <joejaxx> balder: you are most welcome
[05:38] <catalytic_> put the machine on the ground and dance on it
[05:38] <joejaxx> balder: de nada ;)
[05:38] <cmweb> shadowpillar, what issue, im just tuned in
[05:38] <madmazz> joejaxx: ok I was doing sudo dhcpcd
[05:38] <sn9> rickyfingers, kitche, Jordan_U: this is what i was referring to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[05:38] <catalytic_> and then u will be doing the do on ubuntu
[05:38] <joejaxx> madmazz: ah that is why
[05:38] <luptinpitman> any one know how to clear out "grayed out" items stuck in the update manager?
[05:38] <joejaxx> madmazz: yeah it is like that on gentoo
[05:39] <cmweb> Does any one know how to become a member of a group?
[05:39] <catalytic_> hang out around them and pester them for ages
[05:39] <kitche> sn9: yeah ntfs-3g is ok fuse is better in my opinion
[05:39] <catalytic_> eventually they will let you in
[05:39] <Kingsqueak> heh
[05:39] <joejaxx> cmweb: on ubuntu os?
[05:39] <joejaxx> cmweb: account wise?
[05:39] <madmazz> another thing if anyone has same issue, Firefox starts on its own and launches<PHONE_NUMBER> instances of itself eating up memory and teking 100%, WTF???!!
[05:39] <madmazz> this has been happening since the beginning
[05:39] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: make sure you have build-essential and libncurses5-dev installed
[05:39] <joejaxx> madmazz: using gnome?
[05:39] <catalytic_> whats ur homepage set to?
[05:39] <madmazz> yeah
[05:39] <madmazz> ubuntu
[05:40] <madmazz> set to ubuntu
[05:40] <rickyfingers> sn9: thanks
[05:40] <KnowledgEngi> yes i has install this 2 package some minutes ag
[05:40] <catalytic_> have u reinstalled it?
[05:40] <madmazz> no
[05:40] <joejaxx> madmazz: check your System> Preferences > Sessions >Startup and also what is your homepage set to?
[05:40] <madmazz> catalytic_: no I haven't
[05:40] <sn9> kitche: ntfs-3g uses fuse also, which is why your url initially confused me
[05:40] <catalytic_> try reinstalling in synaptic
[05:41] <kitche> sn9: does it? I didn't know sicne I only use fuse myself but I don't have any ntfs on my system anymore
[05:41] <cr3> what's the name of the kernel image package on edgy?
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> I'm not so confident win will install to a second drive
[05:41] <Kingsqueak> wrong win
[05:41] <cmwe1> thats why i hate dialup, and it sucks because i have to waait till may to get T1
[05:42] <madmazz> nothing on System, I don't know what is triggering<PHONE_NUMBER> instances of Firefox
[05:42] <catalytic_> nothing on system??
[05:42] <pig-wrangler> Anyone know how to get additional animations for beryl? I dont see burn listed.
[05:42] <joejaxx> cr3: you mean the overall package that will intall everything kernel related?
[05:42] <catalytic_> u mean u cant find it under synaptic?
[05:42] <cmwe1> Does anyone know how to become a member of a group?
[05:42] <catalytic_> u looked under mozilla-firefox as well?
[05:43] <joejaxx> cr3: linux-generic
[05:43] <catalytic_> cmeme, http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/adduser.shtml
[05:43] <cr3> joejaxx: thanks
[05:43] <joejaxx> cr3: you are most welcome
[05:43] <cr3> joejaxx: isn't there an i386 specific kernel?
[05:43] <catalytic_> er
[05:44] <catalytic_> cmwe1, http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/adduser.shtml
[05:44] <kitche> cr3: linux-generic is the kernel now it picks the kernel for your system it seems
[05:44] <cmwe1> i dont want to make a new user i want to aadd the user to www-dataa group
[05:44] <kalikiana> cr3: there is
[05:44] <joejaxx> cr3 linux-386
[05:44] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun: I have unpaked the source. Now i must do that?
[05:44] <KnowledgEngi> cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/config
[05:45] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: to /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/.config
[05:45] <KnowledgEngi> cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic /usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>/.config
[05:45] <catalytic_> oh shit cmwel, i looked down a bit further, and guess what, there was some related information all about adding, deleting groups, users, etc
[05:45] <catalytic_> http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/newgrp.shtml
[05:45] <catalytic_> mebbe read the whole website
[05:45] <cmwe1> catalytic, please mide the language
[05:46] <cmwe1> mind*
[05:46] <catalytic_> least i can use it properly
[05:46] <catalytic_> :)
[05:46] <cmwe1> ok so my finger like the a letter so what
[05:46] <KnowledgEngi> now: make oldconfig      ?
[05:46] <KnowledgEngi> or i do not need
[05:46] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun
[05:46] <catalytic_> nah seriously, its a start, only real nice people will hold your hand and guide you through absolutely everything
[05:47] <madmazz> anyone know how to join YAHOO chats on YAHOO?
[05:47] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes, make oldconfig && make menuconfig && make prepare && make [..]
[05:47] <joejaxx> madmazz: ?
[05:47] <joejaxx> madmazz: yahoo chats?
[05:47] <cmwe1> ljl, where aare you you make it all seem too eaasy
[05:47] <KnowledgEngi>  [..]  ????
[05:48] <madmazz> joejaxx: join yahoo chats with GAIM do I need a plug in or something?
[05:48] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: means fill in the remaining command parameters yourself
[05:48] <KnowledgEngi> i must write exatlt this string "[..] "
[05:48] <joejaxx> madmazz: i do not think so
[05:48] <KnowledgEngi> ?
[05:48] <PumpkinPie> apt-get install iozone ?  apt-cache search iozone ? nothing?
[05:48] <madmazz> this chic complains she can't join YAHOO chats with gaim
[05:48] <madmazz> but the rooms are there
[05:48] <joejaxx> madmazz: Buddies >> Join Chats
[05:48] <KnowledgEngi> if this is related to architecture i'm using an AMD athlon xp
[05:48] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun,
[05:49] <madmazz> joejaxx: it tells me that the chat MAY BE FULL when I try to join any
[05:49] <joejaxx> madmazz: hmm
[05:49] <Ferret_> Hey I've been trying to install ubuntu over netboot on my iBook using this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot only with the PPC images. After some fiddling I managed to get it to actually try to boot, now it just goes "Loading ELF CLAIM failed".
[05:49] <PumpkinPie> where is iozone package?
[05:49] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: so set that in the kernel configuration. I presume you can do that independently.
[05:49] <joejaxx> madmazz: maybe it is true
[05:49] <Ferret_> Any idea what's wrong?
[05:49] <madmazz> joejaxx: ALL of them?
[05:50] <KnowledgEngi> if i run only make without option is a problem?
[05:50] <sn9> Ferret_: i'm probably the only one in here who knows what you mean
[05:50] <KnowledgEngi> becouse i do not know what option i must use
[05:50] <joejaxx> madmazz: lol
[05:50] <Ferret_> sn9 - Oh?
[05:50] <cmwe1> catalytic, i meant whats the command. thaat page leads me too login as a root without making the root accont
[05:50] <joejaxx> madmazz: sounds like a problem with gaim
[05:51] <joejaxx> madmazz: did you try taking off that proxy option they have enabled by default?
[05:51] <sn9> Ferret_: the vmlinux and ramdisk files -- how big are they together?
[05:51] <Ferret_> sn9 - Lemme check, one second.
[05:51] <madmazz> joejaxx: good idea, where's that at? Proxy options at yahoo or global gaim settings?
[05:52] <joejaxx> madmazz: under accounts
[05:52] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, if i build using just "make" without option, can i have some problem?
[05:52] <cmwe1> User Poll: How long did it take for you to become aquanted with linux
[05:52] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes, it will be a problem unless you follow a standard how-to.
[05:52] <madmazz> joejaxx: thanks
[05:52] <Ferret_> Think I know the problem, there is no ramdisk file. It wasn
[05:52] <joejaxx> madmazz: you are most welcome
[05:52] <kodat> so who is really good at ubuntu..when i do sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 54M it doest stick..it just goes back downw to 11MB within 1 few seconds...and ive added up iwconfig eth1 rate 54M to /etc/network/interfaces but no dice
[05:52] <PumpkinPie> apt-setup doesn't work ?
[05:52] <Ferret_> wasn't at the link in the netboot howto.
[05:52] <joejaxx> sn9: Ferret_: netboot? that is always great :)
[05:53] <Ferret_> (This link: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-powerpc/current//images/powerpc/netboot/)
[05:53] <sn9> Ferret_: wait -- are you installing, or trying to boot an installed system?
[05:53] <cmwe1> Kingsqueak, how do i add myself to a group such as www-data
[05:53] <Ferret_> sn9 - I'm trying to install via netboot.
[05:54] <sn9> Ferret_: then it's not possible for the howto not to mention the ramdisk
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: Why are you installing hoary?
[05:54] <Ferret_> Oop wrong link..
[05:54] <kodat> so who is really good at ubuntu..when i do sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 54M it doest stick..it just goes back downw to 11MB within a few seconds...and ive added up iwconfig eth1 rate 54M to /etc/network/interfaces but no dice
[05:54] <Ferret_> This one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-powerpc/current//images/ Damn apache indexes all look the same.
[05:55] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, I has read some document about kernel building but i never used parameter for make
[05:55] <Kingsqueak> cmwe1: 'sudo nano /etc/group'  at the end of the www-data line, add the user, if one is there called foo, make it look like   foo,bar   to add 'bar'
[05:55] <silvertip257> I have found a link explaining how to build my specific set of drivers for my wireless card, but do not have enough experience to know how to compile it or whateve
[05:55] <silvertip257> r
[05:55] <cmwe1> kingsqueak, thank you
[05:55] <saquib> #ubuntu-xgl
[05:55] <Ferret_> sn9 - I don't see RAM disk mentioned anywhere here https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/powerpc/install-tftp.html or here https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/powerpc/ch05s01.html#boot-tftp
[05:55] <NoStop> what is the command for reloading the gnome taskbar? I forget.
[05:56] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, can you tall me what i need to read for understand what option i need to you for make ?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> NoStop: Gnome panel you mean? killall gnome-panel
[05:56] <KnowledgEngi> *you=use
[05:56] <saquib> After I updated to Edgy xgl sessions won't always load properly, but I have no idea if it's xgl or gnome failing, I just get the black (or gray) xgl screen with nothing on it and maybe the top and bottom panels (albeit empty). I'll usually have to try logging in at least twice or maybe three times before it works
[05:56] <Ferret_> That's the one I'm following, with some minor tips from the howto explaining how to netboot from a windows machine, this one:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[05:56] <saquib> please help
[05:57] <NoStop> Jordan_U: and that will reload it? I thought it was another command that did this.
[05:57] <silvertip257> wireless driver building ... help please
[05:57] <sn9> Ferret_: what do you mean? it's right there
[05:57] <Jordan_U> NoStop: Yes, that will reload it.
[05:57] <Klick> anyone know how to make it so a user doesnt have a password?
[05:57] <cmwe1> one more question before im off. How do i make a shortcut to a folder placed on my desktop such as /var/www
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> I do all day
[05:57] <Kingsqueak> doh, wrong win
[05:57] <Ferret_> sn9 - Where?
[05:57] <sn9> in the last paragraph
[05:58] <kodat> so who is really good at ubuntu..when i do sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 54M it doest stick..it just goes back downw to 11MB within a few seconds...and ive added up iwconfig eth1 rate 54M to /etc/network/interfaces but no dice
[05:58] <Jordan_U> cmwe1: ln -s thing shortcutToThing
[05:58] <NoStop> yep, Jordan_U, that worked. Except it didn't reload the update icon and that is what's missing now.
[05:58] <Jordan_U> cmwe1: In Unix it is called a symbolic link BTW
[05:58] <Ferret_> sn9 - Which file is the ramdisk? Just to make sure I got it all.
[05:59] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, "make all" is good ?
[05:59] <cmwe1> Jordan_U, so ln -s /var/www /home/clint/Desktop ?
[05:59] <Ferret_> I'm about to feel like an idiot aren't I?
[05:59] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, or: make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install
[06:00] <Jordan_U> cmwe1: No, ln -s /var/www /home/clint/Desktop/var( or whatever you want to call it )
[06:00] <cmwe1> i did ln -s /var/www /home/clint/Desktop and it worked
[06:00] <CharlieSu> would anyone be willing to SSH into my box with bad passwords and usernames to help me test my DenyHosts config?
[06:01] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: the latter
[06:01] <Blue_Max> hey all...just got ubuntu running, very cool
[06:01] <sn9> Ferret_: it won't work anyway, because the files are too big
[06:01] <Klick> anyone know which file tells linux weather or not a user can have a blank password ?
[06:01] <hsunda3> Hello! I am just curious to know .. grep ^CLOCK file will show lines in file beginning with CLOCK. How do I negate it using reg exp? (I can use grep -v, but I want regex)
[06:02] <Jordan_U> cmwe1:  nvm then :)
[06:02] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, make bzImage && make modules_install
[06:02] <KnowledgEngi> ?
[06:02] <cmwe1> kingsqueak, please i do not feel like rebooting again, will chown clint /var/www ONLY do the www dir
[06:02] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: don't forget make modules
[06:02] <Ferret_> sn9 - They are? So I can't install via netboot? Gotta find an alternative then, CD drive on the iBook is dead and I don't have easy access to an external drive.
[06:03] <cmwe1> I know it sounds crazy but
[06:03] <cmwe1> i need to confirm
[06:03] <Ferret_> Aside from an iPod, and I gave up trying that a long time ago.
[06:04] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, using make oldconfig i must puch "enter" for each question ??
[06:04] <sn9> Ferret_: you might try something older than edgy
[06:04] <KnowledgEngi> becouse make olconfig ask me something
[06:04] <TuTUx> ?
[06:04] <Ferret_> Dapper?
[06:04] <sn9> looking at the dapper files now
[06:04] <sn9> they still look too big
[06:04] <KnowledgEngi> and i do not know if the default answare [y/n]  are ok
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: How would the alternate CD help if the drive is broken?
[06:05] <Ferret_> I'm going to try, see what happens.
[06:05] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: if you're not sure, accept the defaults
[06:05] <cmwe1> See yall, im going to get money, and no not by being a hooker :-D
[06:05] <ripper> i cant seem to get the splash to come up that is supposed to load after grub, any suggestions?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: You can boot holding down T and it will boot your iBook as a glorified firewire drive and you can install from another machine.
[06:06] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, and if i accept all defaults the support included in my oldconfig are considered yes ?
[06:06] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: no
[06:06] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: vanilla kernel does not contain all the patches that Ubuntu's kernel team applies
[06:07] <Ferret_> Jordan_U - Will that work even if the only other machine I got is a PC?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: Or does it have firewire? .... I can't remember, I don't think target disk mode works with USB.
[06:08] <KnowledgEngi>  NatSemi SCx200 27MHz High-Resolution Timer Support (SCx200HR_TIMER) [M/n/?]  (NEW)
[06:08] <KnowledgEngi> timer ......
[06:08] <KnowledgEngi> is related to realtime ???
[06:08] <Ferret_> Jordan_U - The iBook has firewire, I've used it in target mode before.
[06:08] <KnowledgEngi> a ok, is module
[06:08] <Ferret_> Just not sure installing a PC version on it will do me any good.
[06:09] <sn9> Ferret_: what's installed on it now?
[06:09] <Ferret_> OS X 10.4.8
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: Yes, If you can figure out how to run the PPC installer from an x86 machine, it is definitely possible but I don't think anybody has made an x86 installer that installs a PPC distro.
[06:09] <Ferret_> Jordan_U - What I feard :/
[06:09] <Ferret_> *feared
[06:10] <sn9> you can boot the netinstaller from an osx partition, but i don't know whether it can handle tiger
[06:11] <Ferret_> sn9 - How?
[06:11] <sn9> you have to muck with yaboot and openfirmware, tho
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: There may be some hacking foo you can do like copying the LiveCD contents to the drive but it certainly wouldn't be straightforward.
[06:11] <sn9> i've done it before
[06:12] <Ferret_> sn9 - I'm mucking about with yaboot and openfirmware right now.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> sn9: I miss open firmware :(
[06:12] <sn9> btw, do you intend to shrink the osx partition, or replace osx?
[06:13] <Ferret_> Replace it, the iBook is an old G3, doesn't run well with 10.4
[06:13] <sn9> 500MHz?
[06:13] <Ferret_> 700
[06:14] <spunconfuse_> what was open firmware?
[06:14] <sn9> 10.3 looks faster than ubuntu on my 600
[06:14] <Jordan_U> spunconfuse_: BIOS on crack :)
[06:14] <CharlieSu> crack is good Jordan_U
[06:14] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun,
[06:14] <KnowledgEngi> Processor type and features --> Timer frequency (i must change from 250 HZ  1000 HZ) ??
[06:15] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: yes
[06:15] <Jordan_U> CharlieSu: So is Open Firmware.
[06:15] <Ferret_> sn9 - Besides I've been wanting to have a machine with Linux on it for a while and putting it on my iBook seems as good an idea as any.
[06:15] <CharlieSu> Jordan_U: yes.. i've used it...
[06:15] <Ferret_> If I can get it to install.
[06:16] <CharlieSu> anyone want to try and help test my DenyHosts config? I need some brute force SSH attemps to my box..
[06:16] <KnowledgEngi> that is all for low-latency ??
[06:16] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: no
[06:16] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: didn't you apply the ll/rt patches?
[06:16] <KnowledgEngi> no
[06:16] <crimsun> ...
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: PPC linux is not fun for a first go at linux, I know, my first Linux machine was my powerbook, it was painfull.
[06:17] <sn9> Ferret_: that howto seems to say to serve up only a single file over tftp. i've never tried it that way. is that what you did?
[06:17] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, i have not this patch, and i do not know where can i find it
[06:17] <zillabox> im trying to set a dhcp server
[06:17] <zillabox> but
[06:17] <zillabox> after i command apt-get install dhcpd
[06:17] <Ferret_> sn9 - Which one of them? The one telling how to set up the server on Windows or the other one?
[06:17] <sn9> the other
[06:18] <zillabox> it says, couldn't find package
[06:18] <zillabox> i need help
[06:18] <kodat> so who is really good at ubuntu..when i do sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 54M it doest stick..it just goes back downw to 11MB within a few seconds...and ive added up iwconfig eth1 rate 54M to /etc/network/interfaces but no dice
[06:18] <zillabox> please
[06:18] <sn9> Ferret_: btw, i'm currently chatting from an ibook 600 running dapper. i originally installed breezy on it in july 2005
[06:19] <Ferret_> Well I got it to load the installer for a little while then it whined about a bad yaboot.conf file, so I moved things around a bit and now I'm getting the 'Loading ELF, CLAIM failed' messages and I got no idea what they mean.
[06:19] <sn9> and the breezy was a netboot install
[06:19] <zillabox> i need help guys
[06:19] <zillabox> after i command apt-get install dhcpd
[06:19] <zillabox> it says, couldn't find package
[06:20] <Ferret_> sn9 - Well if breezy worked for you, I'm gonan give it a try.
[06:20] <sn9> it didn't, really. lots of stuff i had to go to dapper for
[06:20] <infer_> !dhcp
[06:20] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:21] <jontec> how do I insert special charaters like an accented e?
[06:21] <sn9> the built-in microphone will likely require at least edgy
[06:21] <jontec> characters*
[06:21] <Ferret_> sn9 - I meant the install. Isn't it possilble to update once you get it installed?
[06:21] <phxheat> how do i get beagle to always be in the task bar?
[06:22] <FloK> to upgrade to edgy: in wiki tutorial there is:
[06:22] <bimberi> zillabox: yes, wrong name, should be dhcp3-server
[06:22] <FloK> gksudo update-manager -c
[06:22] <sn9> Ferret_: that's what i joined the channel for help with today -- firefox and synaptic broke in my upgrade
[06:22] <FloK> gksudo: invalid option -- c
[06:22] <joedj> anyone using apt-proxy?
[06:22] <Ferret_> sn9 - To Edgy or Dapper?
[06:22] <FloK> what's the correct command?
[06:22] <sn9> dapper
[06:23] <joedj> i'm wondering if i can apt-proxy dapper and edgy at the same time
[06:23] <Ferret_> Hrm...tricky stuff this Linux..
[06:23] <bimberi> FloK: gksudo "update-manager -c"   (the quotes are needed)
[06:23] <FloK> thx
[06:23] <bimberi> yw
[06:24] <Ferret_> YAAAS!
[06:24] <Ferret_> IT BOOTS!
[06:24] <sn9> Ferret_: an ibook 700 with a broken cd drive can make a very decent ubuntu machine -- at least until the motherboard dies, which it will
[06:24] <Ferret_> Sorry about that.
[06:25] <Ferret_> And it dies, ramdisk problems..
[06:27] <phrontist> hello! The easyubuntu server is down, any ideas on how I can get it?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> phrontist: We can help you install stuff without it.
[06:28] <sn9> phrontist: are you installing 6.06 or 6.10?
[06:28] <phrontist> sn9: of what?
[06:28] <sn9> ubuntu
[06:29] <Jordan_U> sn9: easyubuntu, not Ubuntu
[06:29] <spunconfuse_> when I plug in my usb memory stick reader it recognizes it. but when I click on it I get this error "Unable to mount the floppy drive. The floppy is probably in a format that cannot be mounted."
[06:29] <spunconfuse_> can I re-mount this
[06:30] <phrontist> I think I can install the packages myself, shame easyubuntu is down though
[06:30] <sn9> phrontist: did you want easyubuntu for 6.06 or 6.10 of ubuntu?
[06:30] <phrontist> it makes things so pleasant
[06:30] <phrontist> sn9: how do I check version?
[06:30] <phrontist> this is a fresh install from one of the free CDs
[06:30] <sn9> dapper or edgy?
[06:30] <phrontist> dapper
[06:30] <sn9> dapper is 6.06
[06:30] <phrontist> okay
[06:31] <sn9> for 6.06, instead of easyubuntu, look at the following URL:
[06:31] <Madpilot> !restricted
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:31] <sn9> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-June/002071.html
[06:31] <FloK> the filelist rsync outputs - are this all files checked or those to be transferred?
[06:31] <dibblego> how do I find out what graphics driver I am using?
[06:31] <sn9> phrontist: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2006-June/002071.html
[06:33] <Ferret_> Woot just managed to get into the installer. Les' see how this pans out.
[06:33] <phrontist> sn9: thanks!
[06:33] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, i has find it: patch-2.6.18-rt1, patch-2.6.18-rt2, patch-2.6.18-rt3, patch-2.6.18-rt4, patch-2.6.18-rt5, patch-2.6.18-rt6, patch-2.6.18-rt7
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Ferret_: :)
[06:34] <crimsun> KnowledgEngi: now apply them and reconfigure
[06:35] <phrontist> sn9: what did that do, exactly?
[06:35] <phrontist> I don't seem to have easyubuntu...
[06:35] <KnowledgEngi> i must appliy 7 patchs ???
[06:35] <sn9> phrontist: the next messages in that mailing list thread talk about what it does
[06:36] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun,  i must appliy all 7 patchs ???
[06:36] <phrontist> sn9: wow, that is magic
[06:37] <tamale> crazy question.. but how do I make X start up automatically on my server install of dapper drake?  :)
[06:37] <tamale> typing startx works fine
[06:37] <tamale> i just need it to do that at bootup
[06:37] <Kr0ntab> tamale, did you install gdm?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> tamale: Have you installed gdm?
[06:37] <tamale> pretty sure I did.
[06:37] <sn9> phrontist: easier than easyubuntu. now i just need to update it for edgy...
[06:37] <Ferret_> Thanks for the help :> I'm gonna go see if I can get this thing to do my  bidding.
[06:37] <tamale> gdm is in the /etc/init.d scripts at least
[06:37] <eyequeue> tam, x on a server??  but sudo apt-get install gdm
[06:38] <tamale> eyequeue: I have a couple programs that only work through wine
[06:38] <phrontist> sn9: after restarting firefox, I still don't seem to have flash though
[06:38] <Kr0ntab> $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start       to test it out.
[06:38] <spunconfuse_> Can someone help me mount my usb memory stick reader?
[06:38] <Jordan_U> tamale: apt-get install gdm just to check
[06:38] <tamale> and i want to be able to control them remotely
[06:38] <tamale> k
[06:38] <tamale> yup already latest version
[06:39] <sn9> phrontist: it installs flash 7. i've been contemplating changing it to install flash 9 instead
[06:39] <eyequeue> tam, man update-rc.d if it doesn;t seem to be starting at boot btw
[06:39] <eyequeue> tamale, rather ^^
[06:39] <tamale> uhh
[06:39] <tamale> what? lol
[06:39] <Jordan_U> tamale: and : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:39] <Jordan_U> ?
[06:39] <tamale> lemme try to explain the process that works first
[06:40] <tamale> this server is with me for now
[06:40] <tamale> but tomorrow it's going in a datacenter
[06:40] <tamale> when i reboot it now, i get a normal vga terminal asking for me to login
[06:40] <mbb> anyone know how to edit the text on the main panel? I want to change "Applications" to "Apps" as I'm running out of space
[06:40] <eyequeue> tamale, , man update-rc.d tells you how to change the at-boot or not aspect of gdm (or others in /etc/init.d)
[06:40] <Kr0ntab> tamale,   issue the command" sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:40] <tamale> i can log in and it works fine, and then i can type start x and x loads.   at that point, i can use VNC from my other computers
[06:40] <tamale> k
[06:40] <glick> hey is there a reason why i cant hear sounds when i watch videos on google vids or youtube?
[06:40] <glick> anyone else have that prob?
[06:41] <glick> with firefoxy?
[06:41] <phrontist> glick: you probably don't have flash
[06:41] <Jordan_U> !flash9 | glick
[06:41] <glick> flash?
[06:41] <ubotu> glick: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:41] <eyequeue> tamale, remember to put sudo in front of any update-rc.d command you may need
[06:41] <tamale> k
[06:41] <Jordan_U> glick: Flash 7 is a sound nightmare, go with 9 even though it is beta.
[06:42] <glick> Jordan_U, where do i get 9?
[06:42] <phrontist> ubotu: I don't see 9
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I don't see 9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <Jordan_U> phrontist: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:42] <bimberi> mbb: Swap that applet for a "Main Menu" applet which only uses the Icon
[06:42] <tamale> the problem is that if i'm not in front of the machine and only logged in with ssh, i can't use "start x", it obviously fails
[06:42] <phrontist> Jordan_U: I've failed the turing test :-)
[06:43] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to install lilo over grub?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> glick: Do you know how to add repositories?
[06:43] <glick> Jordan_U, yeah
[06:43] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun, patch-2.6.18-rt1, patch-2.6.18-rt2, patch-2.6.18-rt3, patch-2.6.18-rt4, patch-2.6.18-rt5, patch-2.6.18-rt6, patch-2.6.18-rt7
[06:43] <KnowledgEngi> i must to apply all 7 patchs ????
[06:43] <Jordan_U> glick: Add the repo on that page and install flashplayer-nonfree
[06:44] <sn9> ...and i just fixed my firefox!
[06:44] <palomer> how do I force cp to always overwrite?
[06:44] <KnowledgEngi> or patch-2.6.18-rt3 is for linux-2-6-18-3 ??
[06:44] <palomer> cp -f doesn't do it!
[06:44] <Jordan_U> sn9: how?
[06:44] <KnowledgEngi> or patch-2.6.18-rt3 is for linux-<IP_ADDRESS> ??
[06:45] <sn9> Jordan_U: installed firefox-ubuntu-themes and changed the theme from the default
[06:45] <Kr0ntab> tamale, thats ok.  if you issue start gdm via the init.d script... you can simply check if it's started by doing "ps -ef | grep gdm"
[06:45] <Kr0ntab> if it's started successfully... you'll see it.
[06:46] <tamale> Kr0ntab: So, from a remote machine, I should be able to ssh in, start gdm, then use VNC ?
[06:46] <Kr0ntab> correct...
[06:46] <tamale> Kr0ntab: Awesome, I'll try that now.
[06:46] <eyequeue> tamale, semi-correct at least :)
[06:46] <Jordan_U> palomer: --remove-destination I think, man cp
[06:46] <palomer> tried it
[06:46] <Kr0ntab> if you want to use VNC you can... or you can just check to see if the processes are running with the ps command
[06:46] <palomer> always tried -f
[06:46] <palomer> both don't work
[06:47] <Eclypse> this is kinda off-topic, but I can't find an alternative proxy server for my windows desktop, I've used proxy plus but it just stopped working out of nowhere . . . and I've been through a lot to try to fix it . . . so if anyone has any off hand suggestions I would greatly appriciate it
[06:47] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to fix a mounted ntfs partition that I messed up while trying to fix grub?
[06:47] <mbb> bimberi: Thanks, just what I wanted! Do you also know how to turn off the tooltips that appear when you hover over an applet icon?
[06:47] <rickyfingers> Kr0ntab: if he's ssh'ing in from another linux box, why not just ssh -X? I'm asking because I don't really know much about vnc.
[06:47] <eyequeue> tamale, you have to have allowed such remote access of course :)  if TCP 6001 or whatever it is is blocked, or not enabled, it won't connect
[06:47] <Shadow_mil> How do I set line in as my capture device?
[06:48] <sn9> Jordan_U: never mind -- still crashes
[06:48] <tamale> eyequeue: that SHOULDN'T be a problem.. but thanks for the reminder :)
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> vnc is typically run as a remote desktop app... so he can see whats actually being viewed.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> sn9: When you removed it to re install did you -purge ?
[06:48] <eyequeue> tamale, no prob, are you testing it tonight?  let us know progress :)
[06:48] <tamale> the purpose of VNC is because as a server, we're going to be running a few apps that only work using wine
[06:48] <glick> whats the flash 9 package called
[06:48] <tamale> yah it's rebooting right now
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> ssh -X is just X11 forwarding to run specific apps on the remote machine, but displayed on yours.
[06:48] <tamale> almost back up
[06:49] <sn9> Jordan_U: yes
[06:49] <tamale> Kr0ntab: OK!! that's what i wanted to know about
[06:49] <tamale> i hear about this stuff about x servers
[06:49] <tamale> and i figure if i just tell startx to start in the right display, that would work too...
[06:49] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to fix a mounted ntfs partition that I messed up while trying to fix grub?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> tamale: And those wine apps have GUI's?
[06:49] <tamale> Jordan_U: Correct.. only a gui.. there'd be no way to run them through a CLI
[06:49] <bimberi> mbb: /apps/panel/global,tooltips_enabled in gconf-editor
[06:49] <Kr0ntab> yeah.. its just single apps...
[06:49] <glick> it cant find flashplayer-nonfree and i added the repo
[06:49] <Eclypse> this is kinda off-topic, but I can't find an alternative proxy server for my windows desktop, I've used proxy plus but it just stopped working out of nowhere . . . and I've been through a lot to try to fix it . . . so if anyone has any off hand suggestions I would greatly appriciate it
[06:50] <Jordan_U> glick: My bad, plugin not player
[06:50] <KnowledgEngi> crimsun,
[06:50] <KnowledgEngi> I need to apply real time patch to the kernel.  That's at least 3 solutions you've had!
[06:53] <panji_alam> hi everybody
[06:53] <Eclypse> malt, proxy plus worked but then it suddenly stopped working.
[06:53] <glick> i keep getting this error...W: GPG error: http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[06:53] <malt> Eclypse: why use a proxy?
[06:53] <malt> is this lan?
[06:53] <bimberi> mbb: np :)
[06:53] <thirdalbum> Jordan_U and sn9: Thanks. I've had this computer since May and I've only just discovered it's 64-bit, by running the 64-bit Live CD :-)
[06:53] <tamale> oh man!!!
[06:53] <Eclypse> malt, nothing else has worked so far.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> glick: You need to add the pgp key...
[06:53] <tamale> it works perfectly
[06:54] <tamale> i love you guys
[06:54] <Kr0ntab> w0rd...
[06:54] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[06:54] <tamale> hahaha
[06:54] <tamale> no really though
[06:54] <tamale> this is great
[06:54] <tamale> it will always be secure when it first reboots..
[06:54] <tamale> just waiting for a login
[06:54] <malt> A proxy server can go offline and get very laggy, most people use a proxy server to throw all there internet traffic through it, and to hide there ip address
[06:54] <tamale> but when I login over ssh and start gdm, i can then vnc in
[06:54] <sn9> glick: did you add the key for seveas?
[06:54] <Eclypse> malt, what else do you suggest I use?
[06:54] <tamale> can i stop gdm in the exacy same way ?
[06:54] <phxheat> hi, i would like beryl to startup everytime i log into gnome, however the sessions -> startup programs section is not saving my command when i leave the window... anyone know why?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> glick: wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:54] <eyequeue> edgy server version huh?  anyone here running it?  i haven't heard of any myself
[06:55] <malt> Eclypse: are you doing this on lan?
[06:55] <Eclypse> malt, yes.
[06:55] <Eclypse> malt, my router is a PoS tho,
[06:55] <Jordan_U> eyequeue: Most people running servers like having LTS.
[06:55] <eyequeue> Jordan_U, yeah, so i would think
[06:55] <Eclypse> malt, so I can't really do much to make it more flexible . . .
[06:56] <malt> Can't you get a router with lan speeds at 100mbps+?
[06:56] <Olathe> How do I start up so that I can properly run fsck ?
[06:56] <malt> why not do that and network the computers togeather
[06:56] <glick> ok i added the repos, i added the keys, i still only see flashplugin 7
[06:56] <Eclypse> malt, the computers ARE networked together
[06:56] <Eclypse> malt, I'm trying to share the dialup internet.
[06:56] <Eclypse> malt, and I have done it
[06:56] <TaeBo-> Can I change sessions for example to xgl from gnome without logging out?
[06:56] <malt> If its lan you can share files without even having internet access
[06:56] <eyequeue> Olathe, typically, boot from the alternate cd, or similar
[06:56] <Olathe> Alright, thanks.
[06:56] <malt> on lan
[06:56] <Eclypse> malt, proxy plus refuses to work now for some reason
[06:57] <Jordan_U> Olathe: Use a liveCD :) ( looking for the boot parameter... )
[06:57] <Eclypse> malt, I know that . . .
[06:57] <Eclypse> malt, I WANT to share internet with my laptop
[06:57] <malt> Eclypse: are you wanting to share files over the internet?
[06:57] <Eclypse> malt, no
[06:57] <Eclypse> malt, I want to share internet with my laptop
[06:57] <Eclypse> malt, very simple concept
[06:57] <malt> Eclypse: oh
[06:57] <malt> get a wireless router?
[06:57] <Kr0ntab> glick, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:58] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: run firestarter on machine that's already connected to the internet
[06:58] <Eclypse> malt, have a wireless router . . .
[06:58] <Eclypse> rickyfingers what's firestarter?
[06:58] <malt> is it not finding the network Eclypse?
[06:58] <malt> the laptop
[06:58] <sky123> i believe he said dial up
[06:58] <eyequeue> Eclypse, try stating it with different words.  do you want the laptop to act as a gateway?  do you want some other machine to act as a gateway with the laptop behind it?
[06:58] <Eclypse> malt, the network works absolutly perfectly, computers detect, files shar eperfectly, it all /works/
[06:58] <eyequeue> firestarter (8)      - program to manage and observe firewalls
[06:58] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: maby I don't have your situation understood properly, you have a wireless router that you want to get the laptop working with
[06:59] <glick> Kr0ntab, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33240/
[06:59] <dibblego> how do I find out my graphics card?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> glick: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:59] <Eclypse> wow . . . you guys really misinterprteted it much
[06:59] <rickyfingers> dibblego: lspci
[06:59] <bimberi> dibblego: lspci
[06:59] <malt> Eclypse: dial up is slow enough why try to run it through a proxy?
[06:59] <dibblego> I did that
[06:59] <dibblego> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145
[06:59] <darkbishop> where can i find a codec to play avi format?
[06:59] <Eclypse> malt, wow, why ask such an irrelevent question?
[06:59] <eyequeue> dibblego, dmesg | less, and look through it
[06:59] <TaeBo-> AVI has many different formats
[07:00] <TaeBo-> AVI just means audio video interlace
[07:00] <dibblego> eyequeue, for what exactly?
[07:00] <malt> Eclypse. I'm not
[07:00] <Eclypse> ima just stop here so I don't get banned
[07:00] <Eclypse> anyways
[07:00] <Kr0ntab> glick... instead of custom at the end of that sevease line.... use "all"
[07:00] <Eclypse> leme rephraise
[07:00] <glick> ok
[07:00] <darkbishop> the extantion is *.avi
[07:00] <Kr0ntab> seveas I mean
[07:00] <malt> Eclypse are you wanting to act as a proxy server?
[07:00] <eyequeue> dibblego, no idea what your video card is, but some keyword from it
[07:00] <Eclypse> malt, I'll explain hold on
[07:00] <malt> ok
[07:00] <sky123> Eclypse: restate it...I think they are missing it
[07:00] <armstrong80> are there default setting in ubuntu that are preventing people from uploading from me p2p? (they can connect but barely download, 0.2-0.7 kb few second pulses) Its very odd
[07:01] <TaeBo-> darkbishop: VLC will play just about anything without extra codecs
[07:01] <Jordan_U> armstrong80: More likely your router.
[07:01] <glick> cool thanks Kr0ntab
[07:01] <Kr0ntab> np
[07:01] <darkbishop> Taebo:do VLC come with ubuntu...just wondering?
[07:01] <armstrong80> Jordan U: I connect directly to the modem
[07:01] <luddite> hey all, how do i insmod the usb module for ubuntu sound
[07:01] <TaeBo-> Darkbishop: not sure, I think it came with mine in edgy
[07:01] <Jordan_U> darkbishop: You can install it.
[07:02] <luddite> is there an package i eed?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> darkbishop: It is not installed by default
[07:02] <Kr0ntab> glick, that work out for you?
[07:02] <darkbishop> jordan_u:but its in the cd rite??
[07:02] <TaeBo-> Darkbishop: Press alt+F2 then type vlc
[07:02] <Jordan_U> darkbishop: No.
[07:02] <glick> yeah Kr0ntab
[07:02] <Eclypse> malt, my desktop, which is running windows, is connected to a wireless router, and my laptop connects to that wireless router. my desktop is to act as a proxy server in which I can share my dialup internet with my laptop.  no computers outside my LAN.  I used proxy plus to share my internet with my laptop (and it worked quite well, but it suddenly stopped working for MSN Messenger and other services . . . but web browsing still works, so basically, I wan
[07:02] <Eclypse> t a replacement for proxy plus that is capable of working through my router, ICS never worked through my router so I started using the proxy.
[07:03] <Eclypse> damn I ohpe that explains everything.
[07:03] <glick> yay! sound!
[07:03] <darkbishop> lemme check and get back to you guys
[07:03] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: try firestarter
[07:04] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, what exactly will it do?
[07:04] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: it's easy to use (gui) and it has internet connection sharing built in
[07:04] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to get a windows install to boot with grub, when it says ntldr not found, after installing edgy?
[07:04] <malt> Eclypse: ok if you are running a desktop and proxy server is on, try proxycap and just set the the proxy server information in it and your set
[07:04] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: it also will run dhcp server to the wireless router
[07:04] <Jordan_U> Please, is there any way to get this video to play in Ubuntu http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full_episodes/?show=heroes ?
[07:04] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: makes everything easy.
[07:04] <BeanBag> There is a program called fysh or something simular that can be used to help learn all the commands in terminal. Does anyone know about it and where can i get it?
[07:04] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, I don't use DCHP
[07:05] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, static works much better.
[07:05] <malt> Eclypse: it has a setting where you can tunnel anything that trys to use the internet through proxy
[07:05] <malt> so then you don't have to set each
[07:05] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: I'm just listing what you can do with it
[07:05] <malt> with proxy setting
[07:05] <Eclypse> malt, sweet, can you link me? (i'm on dialup)
[07:05] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, ah ok
[07:05] <lpxlmdk> help plz? i just tried to set up dual monitors and my xorg.conf_backup isn't there i thot i made it!!
[07:05] <malt> Eclpse -> http://proxylabs.netwu.com/
[07:05] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, I'll try yours next if malt's doesn't work, his sounds better at the moment.
[07:05] <lpxlmdk> is there a way i can recreate it somehow? i'm on the live CD right now..
[07:05] <soulfire41> is there a channel for ubuntu on IA64?
[07:06] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: one very important detail: the machine that connects directly to dial up is running ubuntu, right?
[07:06] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, no.
[07:06] <darkbishop> nope i dont have vlc..
[07:06] <Jordan_U> lpxlmdk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:06] <darkbishop> but im installing it now..
[07:06] <soulfire41> Anyone in here running Itanic?
[07:06] <darkbishop> thx guys.....
[07:06] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, as I stated, it's running windows.
[07:07] <Eclypse> rickyfingers, I used to use ubuntu, and I know this is a good community, that's why I'm here.
[07:07] <malt> Eclypse: you already have proxy server running right?
[07:07] <rickyfingers> Eclypse: internet connection sharing doesn't work?
[07:07] <Eclypse> malt, eh, what do you mean?
[07:07] <lpxlmdk> thanks jordan, just reboot and try that right? or can i just do it in terminal now??
[07:07] <Eclypse> rickyfingers not through my router sadly, it worked well when I didn't have the router :P
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Went back to vanilla debian ?
[07:07] <darkbishop> help on configuring wine?
[07:07] <asdx> how do i install the nvidia drivers?
[07:07] <Eclypse> Jordan_U, nah, went back to Vista, I like good battery life :P
[07:08] <malt> ok proxycap is a proxy program that lets you add proxys to it, and once you have got it set your proxy server ip and port, you can just choose to tunnel all your traffic through the proxy
[07:08] <soulfire41> Can anyone help me with a cd problem
[07:08] <Parisi> ah Vista.
[07:08] <Eclypse> malt hmm . . .
[07:08] <rickyfingers> !nvidia | adsx
[07:08] <ubotu> adsx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:08] <Parisi> Not a bad OS, just very resource intensive.
[07:08] <soulfire41> I have burned The ubuntu ISO to cd as speeds 1x through 12x, but it still doesnt boot
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Why do you get better battery life in Vista?
[07:08] <feross> soulfire41: what's the problem?
[07:08] <soulfire41> I am using Itanic
[07:08] <Eclypse> Parisi yeah that's not one of it's higher points . . . lol
[07:08] <soulfire41> EFI is the BIOS system
[07:09] <Eclypse> Jordan_U everyone in this community knows that ubuntu sucks for battery life.
[07:09] <eyequeue> soulfire41, did you check compare the d/l'd md5 to the website?
[07:09] <soulfire41> i never have found an MD5
[07:09] <Eclypse> Jordan_U I get 2 hours less in ubuntu then I do in Vista, with all it's little gadgets turned on and everything
[07:09] <luddite> i get 4 hours or more
[07:09] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Except me, seriously, had no idea. I don't use windows.
[07:09] <luddite> sometimes 6 with no wifi
[07:09] <luddite> sounds like your laptop is crap
[07:09] <luddite> sorry
[07:09] <Eclypse> malt, so proxycap is merely something that would work through Proxy Plus? is it for the client or the server?
[07:09] <Parisi> Eclypse Tell me about it, one i can only hope it will be tweaked before the official release date, this thing is pushing my amd  dual core 3800xp to its limits.
[07:09] <Kr0ntab> Eclypse, I'd say that hat depends entirely on the ACPI support, and effective use of CPU scaling or other power saving settings....
[07:10] <Eclypse> Jordan_U ah, do you have a laptoP?
[07:10] <malt> Eclypse: for example if you already got proxy server running on your desktop with ip lets say <IP_ADDRESS> and port 6634, then you would go to proxycap and add proxy and add ip <IP_ADDRESS> and port 6634 and you would just choose to tunnel all your traffic
[07:10] <rickyfingers> soulfire41: how old's the box you're trying to install ubuntu on?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Did you set ubuntu for better battery life over performance? Yes I do.
[07:10] <Eclypse> Parisi, I never tried the beta, I used the official RTM version (thesame ver that's going to be released in 2 months)
[07:10] <luddite> ubuntu does an awesome job with powermanagement out of hte box install
[07:10] <soulfire41> it was first sold in 2000
[07:10] <Parisi> Eclypse Ubuntu wont even load properly on this machine, thats the sad part.
[07:10] <Eclypse> Jordan_U I tried everything, trust me
[07:10] <malt> Eclypse its a client
[07:10] <rickyfingers> soulfire41: is it a dell?
[07:10] <eyequeue> soulfire41, sec
[07:10] <luddite> need some help w/ usb audio microphone
[07:10] <TaeBo-> Does anyone know how to get a windows install to boot with grub, when it says ntldr not found, after installing edgy?
[07:10] <Parisi> Eclypse That what i have, but it still needs work.
[07:10] <luddite> logitech
[07:11] <Parisi> Thats*
[07:11] <luddite> i tried to insmod usb-snd-audio
[07:11] <noiesmo> !keymap
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <luddite> no dice..
[07:11] <malt> Eclypse: sound like what your wanting?
[07:11] <Eclypse> malt, proxy plus supports multiple protocals . . . lol
[07:11] <malt> so does this
[07:11] <malt> socks v4 socks v5
[07:11] <malt> http
[07:11] <malt> TCP UDP
[07:11] <ahmeni> I got to help someone from Canonical buy a usb cord at my work today \o/
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: An OS can't just suck energy into a black whole, there must be something it is doing differently to make it use more power.
[07:11] <Eclypse> malt, so is it it's own proxy server or what? it seems like an add on to what proxy plus already does? lol
[07:11] <soulfire41> No it is a HP zx2000 running on Intel Itanium 2
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Do you have a dual core machine?
[07:12] <Eclypse> Jordan_U the video drivers suck balls.
[07:12] <Eclypse> Jordan_U no, Pentium M
[07:12] <Eclypse> Jordan_U ATI doesn't favor Linux, at all.
[07:12] <TheGino_Frank> how does one keep totem-firefox up to date through Synaptic, is it automatic?
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Ahh ATI, it all makes perfect sense now :)
[07:12] <malt> Eclypse its just a client
[07:12] <eyequeue> soulfire41, for edgy? http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/edgy/MD5SUMS
[07:13] <Eclypse> malt, eh, lol, yeah I'm not quite sure how this isi going to help really, I was talking about a new proxy server program . . . unless you feel like troubleshooting with me . . . lol
[07:13] <soulfire41> ohh craop
[07:13] <malt> Eclypse: one sec
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: intel integrated FTW.
[07:13] <eyequeue> soulfire41, for dapper? http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/dapper/MD5SUMS
[07:13] <malt> Eclypse: you want socks server?
[07:13] <soulfire41> the iso i have is Debian 31 R 3 business card
[07:13] <Eclypse> malt, well that's a fat load of bullshit, it's not free
[07:13] <Eclypse> malt, I don't think I'll ever need socks
[07:13] <soulfire41> I thought it was Ubuntu
[07:13] <soulfire41> i wonder what i did with that ISO
[07:13] <malt> Eclypse: there is serial sites :P
[07:14] <Eclypse> Jordan_U well, this video card runs Aero perfectly so I'm content
[07:14] <Eclypse> malt yeah, true
[07:14] <Eclypse> malt, either way, you seemed like you were going at something else
[07:14] <spunconfuse_> what file system does a floppy use?
[07:14] <luddite> hey all, how do insmod audio drivers for usb device microphone
[07:14] <luddite> kind of stumped
[07:15] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: My intel integrated graphics card from 3 years ago runs Beryl with all the snazzy effects enabled, so I am content :)
[07:15] <malt> Eclypse: yeah proxycap is on a proxy client, i thought you already had proxy server running on your desktop and you were looking for a client to connect to that proxy on your laptop
[07:15] <TheGino_Frank> how does one keep totem-Mozilla and firefox up to date through Synaptic, is it automatic?
[07:15] <synjet> hi.. anybody able to get skype working on Edgy? I get "Problem with sound device" error, and as suggested in forums, tried changing to ALSA etc, but invain! any ideas?
[07:15] <Eclypse> Jordan_U even blur with wobbly windows? ;)
[07:15] <darkbishop> guys.. its work.. vlc do play anything.. thx guys... ur the greatest
[07:15] <IndyGUnFreak> where do you even download skype?
[07:15] <darkbishop> i can watch bleach now
[07:15] <Jordan_U> TheGino_Frank: it is automatic.
[07:16] <tamale> www.skype.com  ?
[07:16] <synjet> skpye has deb repos
[07:16] <Eclypse> malt, yea I need a new proxy server, unless we can figure out what just made mine suddenly stop working
[07:16] <TheGino_Frank> Jordan_U, thanks
[07:16] <IndyGUnFreak> i was trying to find it int he repos and couldn't
[07:16] <Eclypse> malt, see, I thought it was Vista's problem, so I ended up formatting vista and installed xp, and tehn found out that XP has a problem with it TOO!
[07:16] <Eclypse> malt, and this has been troubling me for atleast 5 days now
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Eclypse: Blur isn't even a real blur effect, it is some ghosting awfull looking thing that I never enable :)
[07:17] <synjet> skype.com/linux I guess.. ubuntuguide.org suggested to add download.skype.com/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[07:17] <Eclypse> Jordan_U blur looked real to me when I used it . . .
[07:17] <TaeBo-> Jordan_UL blur looks and works great on my rig
[07:17] <Eclypse> Jordan_U I can't see why it wouldn't be, it lagged my laptop liek hell
[07:18] <soulfire41> hey..anyone know where i should go to get the Edgy release of Ubuntu for IA64, as ISO?