[03:17] <refuze2looze> zim, totem, vlc, mplayer, xine.. take your pick
[03:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell zim about multimedia
[03:17] <makaveli> americans jus copied the name probably
[03:17] <AntMaz> ubutu tell zim: about restricted formats
[03:17] <Bergcube> To me, a fotball is that otherwise useless item that my dog gets lots of fun out of chewing to bits.
[03:17] <crouton> rugby would own soccer and football, those maniacs don't even wear helmets.
[03:17] <GoDawgs> brenner: it finally worked dude!
[03:17] <benplaut> brenner: only in #ubuntu-offtopic, unfortunately :P
[03:17] <zim> yes please do
[03:17] <GoDawgs> crouton: too bad no one gives a crap out rugby
[03:17] <GoDawgs> :)
[03:17] <crouton> true
[03:17] <GoDawgs> hehehe
[03:17] <brenner> benplaut: you got the message anyway. :)
[03:17] <makaveli> GoDawgs,  rugby 0wnz too
[03:17] <wuhu> why does everyone here and on the forums keep telling me it's my fault?  i'm going back to windows
[03:17] <AntMaz> http://members.cox.net/pimpbot9000/roflcopter.htm
[03:17] <crouton> it's a good pub sport, to drink beer to
[03:18] <GoDawgs> makaveli: Pfft
[03:18] <brenner> GoDawgs: what did?  do i know you? :)
[03:18] <makaveli> wuhu,  no dont go windoze
[03:18] <GoDawgs> brenner: come on dude... don't recognize me with my fancy new OS that I couldn't get on a little while ago?
[03:18] <LinuxJones> wuhu, what problem are you having ?
[03:18] <zim> who in here can tell me how to play movies on ubuntu
[03:18] <GoDawgs> brenner: Finally, got dapper on... Kubuntu style...
[03:18] <refuze2looze> wuhu, i just directed you to a tutorial on how to install firefox 1.5 in about 5 minutes.. and nobody is forcing you to use linux
[03:18] <wuhu> take your pick linuxjones, makaveli.  i could go on for hours
[03:19] <brenner> GoDawgs: ohhhhh
[03:19] <wuhu> still can't get wireless to work
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <GoDawgs> brenner: hehehehe
[03:19] <phiber_optic> zim: use mplayer, xine
[03:19] <wuhu> i have to add sources to some file every time i want to install something
[03:19] <LinuxJones> wuhu, that's not very usefull to helping find a solution to your problem :)
[03:19] <crouton> wireless is a bit tricky in linux.
[03:19] <jason_> do this have its own antivirus?
[03:19] <refuze2looze> jason_, there's no viruses for linux
[03:19] <wuhu> then when i install something i have to get on here and be told it's my fault
[03:19] <makaveli> wuhu,  use totern
[03:19] <sebi> crimsun, now its "playmidi: No playback device found.
[03:19] <brenner> _jason: heh.  i thought *you* were flooding ... i'm like wtf?  jason flooding?!
[03:19] <LinuxJones> wuhu, what are you trying to install ?
[03:19] <zim> ity says i dont have the correct codex
[03:19] <brenner> jason_: don't flood
[03:19] <concept10> wuhu: no, you dont have to once you added all of the sources you need
[03:20] <jason_> woah really? it doesn't have viruses?
[03:20] <GoDawgs> hey guys... where do I go for a source-o-matic for kubuntu?
[03:20] <wuhu> i add sources every time
[03:20] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to cancel a program that frozed up.. wont let me close it by right clickig
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> what's with mplayer-custom in the repos?
[03:20] <jason_> sorry for flooding
[03:20] <wuhu> then it tells me it can't contact servers
[03:20] <makaveli> zim what kind of file are you trying to play
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> !tell wuhu about easyubuntu
[03:20] <zim> mpg
[03:20] <zim> and wma
[03:20] <wuhu> forget it.  i submit to bill gates
[03:20] <refuze2looze> jason_, no it doesn't. doesn't have spyware either
[03:20] <Bergcube> wuhu ~ Telling you it's your fault is plainly sub-optimal.  And even if you've interpreted it that way, I am sure most people haven't INTENDED it that way.
[03:20] <GoDawgs> !tell me about easyubuntu
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> !tell zim about wma
[03:20] <makaveli> zim did u try VLC or totern
[03:20] <marius_> where can i find the Synaptic
[03:20] <xsquared> hi, im having a bit of trouble with connecting to windows machines in gnome
[03:20] <SebastianM> Hi everyone! I've just installed ubuntu - and I love it! (I'm new to linux)
[03:21] <SebastianM> :D
[03:21] <jason_> wow good thing my friend gave me a copy
[03:21] <refuze2looze> OmegaAlpha, try running command xkill and clicking on it
[03:21] <cubicool> Is there an Xfake package available for Ubu?
[03:21] <phiber_optic> !tell me about easyubuntu
[03:21] <jason_> thanks man!!
[03:21] <xsquared> SebastianM, Welcome to life.
[03:21] <brenner> SebastianM: welcome
[03:21] <corvax> sytem administration
[03:21] <_jason> jason_: I think this page sums it up quite well http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html and this one for a more serious discussion http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:21] <SebastianM> =)
[03:21] <hatake_kakashi> what's with mplayer-custom in the repos?
[03:21] <BigDaddy> yeah, I like this Konversation
[03:21] <zim> no do the just work
[03:21] <corvax> synaptic
[03:21] <SebastianM> It's so...nice, and well done
[03:21] <SebastianM> my wi-fi worked instantly after the installation
[03:21] <xsquared> :-)
[03:22] <GoDawgs> It's weird... I don't have synaptic here.. is adept just as good guys?
[03:22] <corvax> lol at phiber optic  heh   as in the LOD
[03:22] <oklinux> is sis si7012 sound card work in ubuntu ?
[03:22] <SebastianM> while it took atleast 15 minutes to get it to work with windows xp
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried mplayer-custom?
[03:22] <LinuxJones> oklinux, yes'
[03:22] <GoDawgs> Seveas: is there a source-o-matic for kubuntu?
[03:22] <zim> what is the best program to install that will just work to play movies apt-get install WHAT
[03:22] <Alexi5> thank god for ubuntu wiki
[03:22] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, what's source-o-matic ?
[03:23] <corvax> godawgs its undwer system
[03:23] <refuze2looze> zim, i like vlc
[03:23] <GoDawgs> corvax: what?
[03:23] <zim> ty
[03:23] <corvax> synaptic
[03:23] <corvax> its under system
[03:23] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: it's a website where you can have your sources.list file auto generated based on your prefs
[03:23] <LinuxJones> zim, install automatrix it's a gui for downloading movie players and codecs
[03:23] <corvax> then administration
[03:23] <GoDawgs> corvax: I'm confused...
[03:23] <makaveli> zim sypnatic
[03:23] <refuze2looze> GoDawgs, what are your prefs?
[03:23] <BigDaddy> OK, I am done I guess
[03:23] <SebastianM> ubuntu has everything? :D
[03:23] <makaveli> synapatic i mean
[03:23] <BigDaddy> later
[03:24] <SebastianM> even an office package!
[03:24] <makaveli> synaptic
[03:24] <makaveli> damn
[03:24] <GoDawgs> refuze2looze: what do you mean?
[03:24] <corvax> godawg click system at the top of yous screen
[03:24] <GoDawgs> you mean the bottom? :)
[03:24] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  everything and then some
[03:24] <oklinux> where do I go to test the sound Linuxjones ?
[03:24] <LordMelkor> I reinstalled xchat but i still have no irc menu
[03:24] <refuze2looze> GoDawgs, i dont know. you said you wanted a website to autocreate sources.list based on your "prefs". so i ask what are your prefs?
[03:24] <SebastianM> IdleOne: :D
[03:24] <GoDawgs> corvax: ok... i'm there... now what?
[03:24] <corvax> now click admininstration
[03:24] <corvax> then click synaptic
[03:24] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  its under applications > internet
[03:25] <corvax> then enter your root password
[03:25] <corvax> :)
[03:25] <LinuxJones> oklinux, gstreamer-properties
[03:25] <phiber_optic> _jason, nice artichle about the virus ;)
[03:25] <GoDawgs> refuze2looze:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:25] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: ok
[03:25] <brenner> LordMelkor: what version?  i think the latest doesn't have it anymore
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: i don't have administration
[03:25] <GoDawgs> corvax: im on kubuntu
[03:25] <IdleOne> !kubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:25] <LordMelkor> i have 2.6
[03:25] <corvax> ahhh
[03:25] <corvax> heh
[03:26] <corvax> should have said so
[03:26] <corvax> i thought was gnome
[03:26] <brenner> LordMelkor: that's why
[03:26] <LordMelkor> how can i enable auto-accept dcc send in 2.6?
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: I did... :)
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: actually a few times ;)
[03:26] <brenner> IdleOne: he means the Irc menu *inside* x-chat menu bar
[03:26] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, that's cool
[03:26] <corvax> i missed it sorry
[03:26] <IdleOne> brenner:  oh
[03:26] <GoDawgs> corvax: no biggie :)
[03:26] <brenner> LordMelkor: #xchat is really helpful
[03:26] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: it is... huh? :)
[03:26] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:27] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: that's what i'm looking for for kubuntu
[03:27] <refuze2looze> LordMelkor, how did you end up with 2.6? you enabled backports?
[03:27] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  in Settings I beleive
[03:27] <GoDawgs> i'm assuming it's the same but I ned someone to confirm that before i update my sources.list
[03:27] <LordMelkor> refuze2looze: ya
[03:27] <LordMelkor> IdleOne: its not in settings
[03:27] <corvax> goto k menu
[03:27] <marius_> when i have installed whine
[03:27] <marius_> what do i have to do next?
[03:27] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  let me look
[03:28] <brenner> heh. whine.
[03:28] <LordMelkor> i have a screenshot at http://www.geocities.com/joltmajor
[03:28] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, kubuntu can be installed for breezy
[03:28] <Jivenix> is there a quick way to refresh your ip address
[03:28] <ba> ewwww geocities
[03:28] <Jivenix> command
[03:28] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: what?
[03:28] <ba> LordMelkor, dont you have a host?
[03:28] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: I'm not following you.
[03:29] <ba> $def LordMelkor
[03:29] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, you don't need special repositories to install kde
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ba: ??
[03:29] <ba> sorry, wrong channel
[03:29] <ba> i thought i was in #wordpress
[03:29] <IdleOne> LordMelkor: you can get xget pluggin from xchat.org
[03:29] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: got it
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ah ok
[03:29] <ba> ubuntus to huge for me to give a host to everyone who walks in the door
[03:29] <corvax> in the kmenu under system
[03:29] <IdleOne> but #xchat is a better place to get help for xchat
[03:29] <corvax> is snaptic
[03:29] <LordMelkor> ya im there
[03:30] <LordMelkor> no responses tho
[03:30] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, you only need to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:30] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: that's what i'm on now
[03:30] <GoDawgs> but i need additional software... so i need to update my sources, right?
[03:30] <LinuxJones> GoDawgs, ohh you want the latest version
[03:30] <GoDawgs> just as I didn in Ubuntu Dapper.
[03:30] <IdleOne> LordMelkor:  try out xget
[03:30] <GoDawgs> LinuxJones: No... I just installed the latest version................
[03:30] <corvax> dapper has xgl and compiz?
[03:30] <corvax> right
[03:31] <LordMelkor> i just read the description for xget it doesnt look like what i need
[03:31] <AntMaz> _jason: didnt do anything
[03:31] <LordMelkor> oh
[03:31] <SebastianM> a quick question: when a program is supposed to work under linux, is it possible that it doesn't work under ubuntu?
[03:31] <LordMelkor> there isnt a menu thing for it
[03:31] <LordMelkor> i had to type some command
[03:31] <_jason> AntMaz: it was suppose to do anything, you were suppose to verify that it contains the same info
[03:31] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, yes
[03:31] <Madpilot> SebastianM: could be - what are you trying to install?
[03:31] <_jason> AntMaz: wasn't*
[03:31] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, ok! :)
[03:32] <SebastianM> madpilot: just wondering
[03:32] <SebastianM> =)
[03:32] <serpa> So, this is what IRC is like
[03:32] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, ubuntu/debian can have slightly different paths to things to say redhat or slackware for example
[03:32] <_jason> serpa: run while you still can and don't look back
[03:32] <AntMaz> no i meant it loaded up and everything but i just tryed to acess syntap package and it didnt load
[03:32] <GoDawgs> hey ya'll.... when you install apps where are the icons to launch them in the menu?
[03:32] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, aha! I see
[03:32] <Madpilot> GoDawgs: not everything adds itself to the menu
[03:33] <_jason> AntMaz: did you check /etc/sudoers?
[03:33] <SebastianM> ubuntu is so freakin' cool.... :)
[03:33] <LinuxJones> serpa, exciting isn't it
[03:33] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, there's also the chance that the program is supposed to work but generally doesnt as well ;)
[03:33] <GoDawgs> Madpilot: really?  I thought for sure in dapper it would... so how do I get all of the apps I download to add itself to the menu?
[03:33] <marius_> can i install .exe programs after i have downloaded whine?
[03:33] <AntMaz> in that directory
[03:33] <GoDawgs> marius_: sort of... some programs you can run through wine
[03:33] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, =)
[03:34] <marius_> like? cs and ps?
[03:34] <corvax> marius yes
[03:34] <corvax> but dont expect much
[03:34] <GoDawgs> marius_: Photoshop I think so... what's CS?
[03:34] <marius_> why?
[03:34] <_jason> AntMaz: yes, did you check the contents and make sure they were the same as the link I gave you before?
[03:34] <marius_> Counter-strike
[03:34] <beniamino> anyone know of a functioning mirror for plf?
[03:34] <GoDawgs> marius_: it's not a perfected technology
[03:34] <serpa> That just made my day.
[03:34] <SebastianM> hm... there isn't any option for changing the start page in firefox? O_o
[03:35] <corvax> sebastion ofcourse
[03:35] <corvax> there is
[03:35] <LinuxJones> SebastianM, edit >> perferences
[03:35] <SebastianM> yeah, i know
[03:35] <GoDawgs> marius_: Crossover office does a bit better job with porting apps over... but it's not freeware as wine is... though they do fund the wine project
[03:35] <SebastianM> but i can't find it
[03:35] <SebastianM> =)
[03:35] <corvax> edit prefrences
[03:35] <elkbuntu> SebastianM,  o.O
[03:35] <SebastianM> oh... under edit
[03:35] <unholy> hey
[03:35] <corvax> genereal
[03:36] <marius_> ARG!!, steam doesnt work via. whine
[03:36] <unholy> can anyone tell me if i can boot from a floppy and then the floppy boots the cd?
[03:36] <marius_> will crossover work with all ?
[03:36] <corvax> maybe or cedega
[03:36] <LinuxJones> unholy, hwy do you need to do that ?
[03:36] <unholy> i cant boot it from cd, because the computer is too old
[03:37] <corvax> linuxjones prolly isnt eltorito
[03:37] <corvax> bootable
[03:37] <AntMaz> how do i look a it
[03:37] <GoDawgs> i'll be back ya'll... din din's here...
[03:37] <jose> hello
[03:38] <wisie> I've gotta ask, I had stuff on my desktop then I restarted and it all seems to be gone, whats up with that? :S
[03:38] <LinuxJones> unholy, if the computer is that old Ubuntu probably won't be a good choice for an os
[03:38] <Armageddon666> I use debian. But i installed Ubuntu in another machine. Where is the root?
[03:38] <corvax> unholy get smart boot manager
[03:38] <jose> alguien que hables espaol?
[03:38] <_jason> AntMaz: boot in recovery mode, 'cat /etc/sudoers', if it isn't the same, do 'visudo' and make it the same.  You will need to print out the file probably
[03:38] <unholy> where whould i get one?
[03:38] <_jason> AntMaz: print the web page I mean
[03:38] <corvax> thats the name of the application
[03:38] <unholy> k
[03:38] <jose> i dont speaking englsh
[03:39] <AntMaz> my noob ass is lost
[03:39] <minimec> unholy: I had the same problem some weeks ago... take a look on the ubuntu download page. There's a small software that allows you to make a bootable floppy with /device choice :-)
[03:39] <_jason> AntMaz: actually smarter, save it somewhere and then look at it too
[03:39] <AntMaz> send me that link again
[03:39] <Armageddon666> Yo hablo, pero aqui no se puede hablar espaol!
[03:39] <corvax> unholy here http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:39] <AntMaz> copy it
[03:39] <_jason> AntMaz: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[03:39] <concept10> how did I switch back to hardware rendering?
[03:39] <LinuxJones> jose, #ubuntu-es
[03:39] <jose> me puedes dar tu msn armaggedon666????????
[03:39] <Jivenix> anyone ever get dell truemobile 1370 wifi working on ubuntu?
[03:39] <minimec> unholy: Maybe it's even on the ubuntu install disk...
[03:40] <D1> my new dapper install freezes randomly
[03:40] <Armageddon666> Para qu?
[03:40] <jose> i have a problem
[03:40] <D1> how do I debug this?
[03:40] <corvax> my espaniol   is muy  merida?
[03:40] <concept10> I tried to install new ATI drivers, didnt work.  I want to switch back to default
[03:40] <D1> I can no longer Ctrl+Alt+Delete
[03:40] <corvax> meirda
[03:40] <maria> anyone know how to find out my own ip address on a network?
[03:40] <jose> tengo un problema grave con ubuntu armaggedon
[03:40] <corvax> or however you spell shit
[03:40] <kethinov> hey all, why did grub mess up when i removed a hard drive from my computer? i got it fixed and all, but i'm wondering why it had to be fixed in the first place. why does grub care when i get rid of a hard drive that neither its neither installed to nor has its config?
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> maria: ifconfig
[03:40] <marius_> What kinds of programs like dreamweaver is there on linux?
[03:40] <maria> hatake_kakashi: thanks
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> maria: np
[03:40] <corvax> maria ifconfig
[03:41] <corvax> whoops im slow
[03:41] <corvax> lol
[03:41] <pinkpanther> marius_: look up NVU
[03:41] <bosco> how do i get mplayer working correctly in UBUNTU
[03:41] <Armageddon666> Where is root in ubuntu?
[03:41] <amphi> !tell jose about es
[03:41] <bosco> sudo
[03:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell bosco about mplayer
[03:42] <kethinov> Armageddon666, sudo su gives you root
[03:42] <bosco> allright thx
[03:42] <minimec> Armageddon666: You have to create it. Do 'sudo passwd'
[03:42] <jose> ARMAGGEDON666 PLEASE HELP ME
[03:42] <shortjollio> whats the best windows emulator?
[03:42] <bosco> Armageddon666,  yes it does there no other way to do it
[03:42] <kethinov> shortjollio, you can use WINE to run windows apps natively, or use vmware to install windows in a virtual machine
[03:42] <bosco> shortjollio,  vmware or wine
[03:42] <_jason> jose: escreve: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:43] <pinkpanther> get cedega if you want to play windows games on linux
[03:43] <D1> how do I troubleshoot/debug a hard lockup of ubuntu dapper flight 4?
[03:43] <shortjollio> can u intall a windows program using wine?
[03:43] <wotnarg> shortjollio: Yes. some don't work though
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> shortjollio: yes
[03:43] <shortjollio> hmm
[03:43] <corvax> boot to recovery console
[03:43] <kethinov> shortjollio, yes, but wine's compatibility is spotty
[03:43] <shortjollio> how do u operate it then just by clicking the setup or do u have to open up the wine program
[03:43] <jose>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:44] <Armageddon666> The pass will be then the pass for root.  Because in Debian we have root.
[03:45] <kethinov> SebastianM, yes, actually. open a terminal and type ":(){ :|:&);:" without the quotes. it'll bring your system to its knees ;)
[03:45] <minimec> Armageddon666: Yes! But if you don't really need the root account use 'sudo yourname'. I am an Debian User.   Just use sudo.  If you need a root prompt, use sudo -s.  I will have the bot send you some info
[03:46] <kethinov> SebastianM, but there's a classic fork bomb that's 12 characters that kills linux systems
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Armageddon666 about sudo
[03:46] <wotnarg> shortjollio: You should just be able to mount the cd and click the executable on it
[03:46] <cosmo__> what do i need to read ntfs disks
[03:46] <wotnarg> install ntfstools, but its still patchy
[03:46] <marius_> Do i need antivirus for linux?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> !tell cosmo__ about ntfs
[03:47] <wotnarg> marius_: No
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> marius_: generally, no
[03:47] <marius_> K puh!
[03:47] <wotnarg> err, ntfsprogs
[03:47] <kethinov> marius_, probably not. but if you want it, there's always clamav, a free software virus scanner for linux
[03:47] <SebastianM> kethinov, oh..
[03:47] <SebastianM> what's a fork bomb?
[03:47] <kethinov> a program which makes copies of itself in memory until you're out of memory
[03:47] <SebastianM> ah
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> +CPU cycles
[03:48] <goof> I have an issue with hotplug in the startup of v5.10 breezy, can anyone give me some help?
[03:48] <kethinov> yes
[03:48] <Armageddon666> Thanks
[03:48] <wotnarg> SebastianM: If someone says something in a channel that you have nfc what it does, Don't run it. And definatly not as root.
[03:48] <SebastianM> mm
[03:48] <corvax> the only reason to have  antivirus on linux is that your afraid ou may pass a virus in a mail or somthjing givent to you by a friend onto someone else
[03:48] <SebastianM> wotnarg, yes sir!
[03:48] <cosmo__> does any one know what i need to read ntfs voulumes
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> cosmo__: what ubotu said to you in pm
[03:48] <LIve> Can I view my hard drive contents using a Live CD?
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: yes
[03:48] <cosmo__> oh stupid me
[03:48] <wotnarg> SebastianM: If you stick to software from apt, you'll be pretty much safe from most anything.
[03:48] <kethinov> cosmo__, just mount it and specify ntfs as the filesystem
[03:49] <corvax> live yeah
[03:49] <LIve> I'll try it
[03:49] <SebastianM> wotnarg, sounds wonderful
[03:49] <SebastianM> ah, linux is dangerous
[03:49] <corvax> it should  automount for you
[03:49] <SebastianM> it's keeping me from going to bed
[03:49] <wotnarg> heh
[03:49] <wotnarg> I know the feeling :p
[03:49] <SebastianM> =D
[03:49] <goof> Is there any way to avoid starting the hotplug subsystem when starting up ubuntu?
[03:50] <corvax> udev
[03:50] <goof> udev?
[03:51] <minimec> Armageddon666: np
[03:51] <goof> what exactly are the consequences of not starting the hotplug subsystem?
[03:51] <LIve> Perhaps I can't find it, but how exactly to I access my files (using a Live CD)?
[03:51] <wotnarg> goof: stuff won't automount or be detected sometimes, etc.
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: via mount
[03:51] <wotnarg> goof: why would you want to disable it?
[03:51] <corvax> soom things may not work like usb and firewire
[03:51] <Armageddon666> What's np?
[03:52] <goof> wotnarg, well when i try to start my new installation of 5.10 breezy, it hangs at the "starting hotplug subsystem" line
[03:52] <corvax> live do you see an icon on the desktop?
[03:52] <corvax> that looks like a hd
[03:52] <LIve> cdrom, it says?
[03:52] <vladuz976> anybody know how to change gtk2 font size for gaim?
[03:52] <wotnarg> goof: Hrm. You running wierd hardware?
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> LIve: what do you want to mount?
[03:53] <LIve> mount?
[03:53] <SebastianM> if I boot windows xp, start partition magic and choose to expand the partition which ubuntu is installed in - everything should go fine, right?
[03:53] <hondje> vladuz976: in your messages, or for the menus and stuff?
[03:53] <AntMaz> _jason yea everything looks fine and i tried running synaptic packages and asked for the password dtyped it in and nothing loads
[03:53] <wotnarg> LIve: How much do you know about linux/unix stuff? Is mount/umount greek you to?
[03:53] <oklinux> how do I make the sis si7012 sound working ?
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> !tell LIve about mount
[03:54] <vladuz976> hondje: for the message
[03:54] <goof> wotnarg, well its not super wierd, its not exactly standard though...I have an intel P4 motherboard with onboard network and sound but NOT video, so i have a pci-express nvidia video card, and I am also booting off a SATA drive
[03:54] <corvax> oklinux try alsaconf
[03:54] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Hopefully :p PartitionMagic is nondestructive, right?
[03:54] <LIve> First time linux user...sorry
[03:54] <_jason> AntMaz: I don't know then.  If you are in 'admin' group then you should have sudo access...
[03:54] <LIve> terminology is new to me
[03:54] <SebastianM> wotnarg, hehe, it's supposed to be
[03:54] <hondje> vladuz976: for yours, just press the ^A button...for theirs, I find it easiest to go to preferences, and set your font to override theres
[03:54] <SebastianM> =)
[03:54] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, gparted would be the better way to go methinks
[03:54] <oklinux> corvax anything I have to install ?
[03:54] <wotnarg> goof: The videocard doesn't matter, and I doubt the network/sound would be either.
[03:54] <corvax> wait a sec never mind
[03:54] <wotnarg> elkbuntu: True
[03:55] <corvax> you wont have it
[03:55] <_jason> AntMaz: test it with 'sudo echo hi' not gui stuff btw
[03:55] <corvax> ugh
[03:55] <AntMaz> is there anyway to recover full without a full reinstalltion
[03:55] <vladuz976> hondje: what is ^A botton?
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, and there's a livecd with it on it somewhere
[03:55] <wotnarg> SebastianM: You might want to try that gparted, as elkbuntu's advice.
[03:55] <hondje> vladuz976: in the preferences menu, go to conversations -> message text, and 'ignore font sizes' to make the person sending you text messages send them in the size you're using
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, it's not very big, like 50mb iirc
[03:55] <oklinux> brb
[03:55] <wotnarg> elkbuntu: Wait, are you talking to me or to SebastianM?
[03:55] <hondje> vladuz976: in the message box, 4th button from the left
[03:55] <goof> wotnarg, really? those were the only things that anything i read online had to do with the hotplug subsystem...except USB which i have, but nothing is plugged in...
[03:55] <elkbuntu> wotnarg, i wasnt sure who you were talking to, so just giving you the info to pass on :)
[03:55] <AntMaz> type password then does nothing
[03:56] <wotnarg> goof: Videocards just won't let X start, I don't think that would have to do with hotplug.
[03:56] <vladuz976> hondje: that button is not highlited. that's why i am asking
[03:56] <SebastianM> wotnarg, ?
[03:56] <wotnarg> SebastianM: apt-get install gparted
[03:56] <SebastianM> ah, now I got it..
[03:56] <hondje> hrm, I don't understand vladuz976
[03:56] <SebastianM> wooow... too much linux-talk for a newbie like me
[03:56] <_jason> AntMaz: 'groups | grep admin'
[03:56] <SebastianM> apt-get install gparted?
[03:56] <corvax> is alsaconf in alsautils in ubuntu?
[03:56] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:56] <goof> wortnarg, udev can let me bypass the hotplug subsystem?
[03:57] <SebastianM> mhm
[03:57] <corvax> i dont ee it anywhere
[03:57] <corvax> wonder why
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: better yet, groups | grep ' admin'
[03:57] <AntMaz> nothing
[03:57] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Or optionally, you can use the partitioner on the install cd. I always do for major operations :p
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: that means you are not in the admin group
[03:57] <wotnarg> goof: Its probably not a good idea, but you can disable it.
[03:57] <AntMaz> no i mean it did nothing
[03:57] <_jason> AntMaz: yeah that's what it means
[03:58] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, so what I do is to boot xp, decrease the ntfs-partition and then boot ubuntu and increase the ext3-partition with gparted?
[03:58] <_jason> AntMaz: type 'groups', you will not see 'admin' listed there
[03:58] <goof> wotnarg, thats what i keep reading, but nobody seems to be able to find a fix for it, and from what i have read, i'm not the only one with the problem
[03:58] <corvax> well id would use a live cd
[03:58] <goof> wotnarg, any idea for a place to submit the bug/problem?
[03:58] <corvax> and use qtparted
[03:58] <wotnarg> goof: bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[03:58] <corvax> to resive the ntfs
[03:58] <SebastianM> ah
[03:58] <wotnarg> goof: I think is the address, if not, just look for bugzilla on the ubuntu site
[03:59] <corvax> and create the  ext3\
[03:59] <corvax> but you have to run
[03:59] <cosmo__> when i go to veaw hda1 it still says contents cannot be displayed
[03:59] <corvax> defrag
[03:59] <SebastianM> but partition magic is capable of creating/resizing ext3-partitions
[03:59] <corvax> on windows first
[03:59] <goof> wotnarg, thanks for the help
[03:59] <corvax> or it wont work for some reason
[03:59] <SebastianM> would ubuntu recognize the extra space?
[03:59] <wotnarg> SebastianM: Yes :p
[03:59] <AntMaz> adm is there
[03:59] <SebastianM> ok =)
[03:59] <goof> wotnarg, hopefull i can get this cleared up, or i'll have to switch to something else like mandriva :-P
[03:59] <wotnarg> goof: :/
[03:59] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know the command to load a wifi driver on startup to the etc/modules?
[03:59] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, if you have partitionmagic, know how to use it and trust it then you could use it
[04:00] <marc> Is there a howto on how to upgrde firefox to 1.5 somewhere?
[04:00] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, great =)
[04:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell marc about ff1.5
[04:00] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, just dont ask me how, never actually used partitionmagic ;)
[04:00] <SebastianM> elkbuntu, it's cool, I'll figure it out;)
[04:00] <corvax> but dont forget to defrag your wiondows first
[04:00] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, i use partiition magic
[04:00] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, i STRONGLY suggest doing backups though
[04:00] <corvax> i kept getting errors
[04:01] <corvax> untill i did
[04:01] <SebastianM> ah
[04:01] <_jason> AntMaz: that's not 'admin' :)  boot in recovery mode and do 'adduser your_user_name admin'
[04:01] <GoDawgs> Yummy... din din was good.
[04:01] <corvax> i dont have any windows partions anymore though
[04:01] <corvax> no need for it
[04:01] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, and it works without problems? =)
[04:01] <corvax> actually on my wifes laptop there is
[04:01] <GoDawgs> corvax: i wish i could say that
[04:01] <corvax> but she never boots to it
[04:01] <corvax> no need
[04:01] <SebastianM> corvax, hehe, I would love to run ubuntu-only on this laptop but my father uses it aswell
[04:01] <munin> Where does the "System > Preferences > Sessions" configuration file reside? For some reason I am unable to remove sessions from the GUI.
[04:01] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, yes thats what i used to install ubuntu
[04:01] <GoDawgs> then you guys should wax the win partition
[04:01] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, oh, cool!
[04:02] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <AntMaz> ok
[04:02] <hondje> munin: if it's not there, you can run 'gnome-session' from the terminal
[04:02] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, increase my ext3-partition with ubuntu installed on it
[04:02] <corvax> when dapper goes gold
[04:02] <corvax> the wind partion is gone
[04:03] <SebastianM> haha:D
[04:03] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, you can safely resize it without it messing up linux.  Do a backup if you dont want to take any chances
[04:03] <punkrockguy318> Hmm, for some reason i can't get any direct rendering in Xgl
[04:03] <dyrne> stupid question.. trying to change hostname someone tell me equivalent of /etc/sysconfig/network ?
[04:03] <corvax> have you see the videos of xgl in action
[04:04] <jtdgrz> are there any system reqs for ubuntu
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> it says Mesa GLX indirect
[04:04] <corvax> i almsot shit
[04:04] <SebastianM> OmegaAlpha, ok, thanks!
[04:04] <SebastianM> people are so kind here :')
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: yeah, they're awesome
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: i'm running Xgl right now but it's giving me lots of problems
[04:04] <OmegaAlpha> SebastianM, n.p
[04:04] <corvax> xglis in dapper as well as compiz i heard
[04:04] <corvax> in the repos that is
[04:04] <oklinux> can some one help me set up sound card sis si7012 ?
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> corvax: yeah, it's in universe
[04:05] <oklinux> is a realtek alc655 rev 0
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> corvax: whenever i run compiz, i get a black and white screen
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> windows are white but everything is black
[04:05] <OmegaAlpha> Anyone familiar with loading modules into the kernel at boot up?
[04:05] <oklinux> corvax I dont have alsaconf
[04:05] <punkrockguy318> i can still do the cube thing, but i can't do anything
[04:05] <crimsun> oklinux: pastebin the output from: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[04:06] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: /etc/modules
[04:06] <corvax> oklinux me either
[04:06] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, yes i know im in gedit with right now.. i just dont know what to enter for my wifi module :(
[04:06] <corvax> not in ubuntu repos i guess
[04:07] <punkrockguy318> do you know the module name/
[04:07] <LinuxJones> OmegaAlpha, add the module name to /etc/modules like nvidia for example
[04:07] <stephen> hmmm is there a reasonable way to get a computer outside a router networked with those inside via samba?
[04:07] <corvax> heres the video wow
[04:07] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, no.
[04:07] <corvax> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[04:08] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, would the module name be the name of the driver which i just installed to get it to work?
[04:08] <crimsun> oklinux: tell me the url after you've pastebinned it
[04:08] <concept10> Anyone of you guys know how to switch back to hardware acceleration in xorg?
[04:08] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: what was the driver name?
[04:09] <LinuxJones> OmegaAlpha, do lsmod and look to see it's name
[04:09] <drummer87> hi there.. i'm looking at getting a mini print server (netgear ps101, specifically) and need to know if and how i can set this up in ubuntu.
[04:09] <oklinux> it blank crimsun
[04:09] <chi> i cant connect to the internet after a fresh install i can connect to local computers tho any suggestions why?
[04:10] <stephen> hmmm is there a reasonable way to get a computer outside a router networked with those inside via samba?
[04:10] <linkd> chi: how you connecting? via gateway router?
[04:10] <SebastianM> In windows, you install programs with setup-files. Is it the same in ubuntu?
[04:10] <drummer87> i've found these specs, but not sure if these'll work in ubuntu
[04:10] <chi> linkd: yes
[04:10] <drummer87> # Protocol support: TCP/IP, DHCP client  --   # Printing methods: peer-to-peer (PTP) and SMB over TCP/IP, Windows LPD printing
[04:10] <drummer87> any hints anyone??
[04:10] <linkd> SebastianM: you have like ./configure; make; make install in linux, or just use package management
[04:11] <chi> linkd: static ip's on a router
[04:11] <linkd> chi: hmmz, what happens when you try to ping google.com?
[04:11] <crimsun> oklinux: what's blank/
[04:11] <navarone> SebastianM, no...in ubuntu you use synaptic or apt-get command to retireve and install packages from net
[04:11] <SebastianM> oh
[04:11] <linkd> have you configured /etc/network/interfaces for a static ip chi ?
[04:11] <chi> linkd: i get a replie
[04:11] <Madpilot> !tell SebastianM about synaptic
[04:11] <SebastianM> ...another thing to learn :)
[04:11] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, i dont think i see it in there... if im using ndiswrapper on this driver... and ndiswrapper is listed.. would i put that in the boot file?
[04:12] <navarone> Sebastian it's basically how update works too
[04:12] <Madpilot> SebastianM: the link the bot just sent you will explain a lot
[04:12] <punkrockguy318> hmm i'm not sure :-\
[04:12] <SebastianM> yeah, thanks!
[04:12] <linkd> chi: hmm, are you able to resolve hosts? i wont had a similar problem except i had problems resolving hosts.
[04:12] <linkd> *i once
[04:12] <oklinux> crimsun I cant find the file you told me
[04:12] <corvax> turn on dhcp on the rounter see if that works
[04:12] <crimsun> oklinux: are you typing those two commands in a Terminal?
[04:12] <dsas> hmm, does anyone know of a way to reply-to-list in thunderbird? I can't find anything about it having the feature, but maybe my google-fu is running out?
[04:12] <corvax> and go from there
[04:12] <linkd> chi: try "host nullnetwork.net" for kicks and tell me if it works
[04:13] <Jivenix> !broadcom
[04:13] <ubotu> it has been said that broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[04:13] <Jivenix> that stupid bot is infinitely useful
[04:13] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:13] <OmegaAlpha> punkrockguy318, i thinks ndiswrapper is what im needing to boot at kernel... do i just type 'ndiswrapper' in the list then?
[04:13] <Jivenix> how do you add stuff to it?
[04:13] <Jivenix> ndiswrapper -m
[04:13] <oklinux> crimsun can I pm you ?
[04:13] <chi> linkd: yes that is the problem i cant resolve any hosts!
[04:14] <AntMaz> _jason that worked thanks alot
[04:14] <chi> linkd: how did you fix that?
[04:14] <linkd> chi: gotcha! now what router are you using?
[04:14] <crimsun> oklinux: keep it in here, please, unless it's a paste (use pastebin then)
[04:14] <_jason> AntMaz: np
[04:14] <chi> linkd:  its an actiontec
[04:14] <chi> linkd: it runs busybox
[04:14] <NetGeek> not liking gnome-xchat, and reason I would want to get it over Xchat in Dapper
[04:14] <chi> i dont have this problem with my gentoo machines =/
[04:14] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:15] <punkrockguy318> OmegaAlpha: you can try it
[04:15] <marius_> is there a msn client that has picturesupport
[04:15] <linkd> chi: ok ive never heard of that, however this is what is happening, basically you're linux box is defaulting to always using your router as the nameserver (at your routers request) so effectively linux is overwriting resolv.conf all the time
[04:15] <corvax> try using  opern wrt
[04:15] <corvax> and a wrt54g
[04:15] <linkd> chi: i came up with 2 solutions.
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <IdleOne> marius_:  amsn
[04:16] <linkd> chi: 1 was to use cron to enforce resolv.conf (hackish)
[04:16] <marius_> that doesnt have images...
[04:16] <Igorayeb> marius_, you no the mercury MSN client
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <chi> linkd: use an outside dns server?
[04:16] <linkd> chi: second was i bought a new router, but in theory if you could find the setting on the router, you could disable it
[04:16] <sambagirl> can someone help me with my telnet problems with my citadel bbs?
[04:16] <IdleOne> marius_:  sorry i dont use it
[04:16] <linkd> chi: exactly
[04:16] <chi> linkd: thanks ;]
[04:16] <GoDawgs> hey guys how do i get firefox to show up in my menu?
[04:16] <irv10tz> ei is it true that linux doesn't have spyware, malware, viruses???
[04:16] <chi> ys using your router as the nameserver (at your routers request) so effectively linux is overwriting resolv.conf all the time
[04:16] <linkd> chi: i went from a dlink 504 to a linksys product and it worked perfect (and i actually prefer the linksys router)
[04:16] <chi> damn oops
[04:17] <GoDawgs> irv10tz: of course it is!
[04:17] <navarone> irv10tz, there's lots...spyware is watching us now...lol...j/k....im a kidder
[04:17] <sambagirl> anyone running a bbs in there ubuntu?
[04:17] <GoDawgs> not me sambagirl
[04:17] <sambagirl> ok godogs
[04:17] <navarone> do people still run bbs's?
[04:17] <yoge> Hi, Can anyone tell me Who can I create partitions so window$ reinstallation won't overwrite the MBR?
[04:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:17] <marius_> Witch ver. should i download
[04:17] <marius_> Debian?
[04:17] <sambagirl> i have 1 on our xp and 1 on our amiga but not 1 on our ubuntu.
[04:17] <oklinux>  http://pastebin.com/562153 crimmsun
[04:17] <hondje> navarone: almost all of them are talkers now
[04:17] <quacker> sambagirl, as in a dial-up B(ulletin) B(oard) S(ervice) ??!
[04:18] <corvax> what do you use busybox for
[04:18] <corvax> ?
[04:18] <Igorayeb> Anybody no whi cause this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[04:18] <oklinux> http://pastebin.com/562153 corvax
[04:18] <sambagirl> quacker mostly telnet but sure we let others who cannot access have access the old fashioned way.
[04:18] <linkd> yoge: just install windows then boot a livecd and type "grub-install /dev/hdX" or if you use lilo, just type "lilo"
[04:18] <quacker> sambagirl, you are a rare animal indeed...
[04:18] <chi> corvax: busybox is a linux distro it happends to be on the router i got from Qwest
[04:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:18] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  you running breezy or dapper?
[04:18] <AntMaz> got this problem
[04:18] <AntMaz> E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:18] <linkd> yoge: that command will overwrite the MBR and fix it for linux & windows to coexist
[04:18] <GoDawgs> dapper :)
[04:19] <corvax> chi they have a similar thing you can try
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: dapper
[04:19] <corvax> called openwrt
[04:19] <corvax> on an wrt54g
[04:19] <quacker> sambagirl, would yoiu be interested in telling more about the BBS in #ubuntu-offtopic?  (Please.)
[04:19] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  I would think that in Dapper it would be in Aplications > internet also but I dont use Dapper yet
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: and I'm using kubuntu... thought it would add automatically...
[04:19] <linkd> doesnt openwrt have a fair few vunerabilities in it?
[04:19] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: yeah me too...
[04:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi can somone help me with a small problem, i have an older pc i'm trying to install ubuntu on, but i can't seem to boot from the disc, can anyone tell me what bios settings i should have
[04:19] <navarone> I remember bbs's...sheesh
[04:19] <sambagirl> i installed the telnet server but it does not show up in process running and it was put into the /etc/inetd.config file or something like that. if the # is infront of the statement does that cause it not to work, the statement?
[04:20] <NetGeek> Flight4 for Dapper is out
[04:20] <chi> i ferget how do i add root user?
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: it added it automatically when i was using ubuntu dapper... but since i've switched over to kubuntu dapper it's different
[04:20] <chi> to ubuntu*
[04:20] <amphi> sambagirl: yeah, # comments it out
[04:20] <oklinux> crimsun you here
[04:20] <corvax> sudo passwd
[04:20] <linkd> chi: just set a password for root
[04:20] <sambagirl> ahh ok thanks amphi
[04:20] <amphi> sambagirl: a leading # that is
[04:20] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  try #kubuntu they might be able to help more
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: ok
[04:20] <oklinux> any one try wine in ubuntu
[04:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell chi about root
[04:20] <linkd> oklinux: sure
[04:20] <GoDawgs> they haven't been much help but i'll give 'em another shot
[04:20] <IdleOne> GoDawgs:  sorry :/
[04:20] <oklinux> linkd does it work ?
[04:20] <MotorCityMadMan> canyouhelplz: set your machine to boot from CD Rom first under boot tab
[04:20] <linkd> oklinux: yep
[04:20] <GoDawgs> IdleOne: oh no biggie... it happens :)
[04:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> MotorCityMadMan: i did, but it doesn't work
[04:21] <quacker> sambagirl, daemons run from /etc/init.d/[daemon_name]
[04:21] <sambagirl> if you telnet to uncensored.citadel.org you can see what i set up or we setup but we canont make it do what that does. do we need to set up a sub domain for things like this?
[04:21] <oklinux> how easy to set it up
[04:21] <SebastianM> I have this iso-file which is supposed to be a program, does someone know how to install it? :S
[04:21] <sambagirl> whta is a daemon anyway?
[04:21] <linkd> oklinux: is that a question or..?
[04:21] <marius_> I need a program that is simular to Dreamweaver(HTML/PHP etc. editor)
[04:21] <MotorCityMadMan> canyouhelpplz: does your rom drive work ?
[04:21] <marius_> Does somebody know of that?
[04:21] <sambagirl> use NVU
[04:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> MotorCityMadMan: yes
[04:22] <sambagirl> marius_ use NVU
[04:22] <oklinux> I got to run will talk later
[04:22] <linkd> ok
[04:22] <quacker> sambagirl, for general help with terms definitions and concepts, I recommend you join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:22] <AntMaz> samagirl google it
[04:22] <oklinux> thanks guuys
[04:22] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:22] <jtdgrz> are there any system reqs for ubuntu
[04:22] <amphi> sambagirl: what do you mean?
[04:23] <ipfw> the base ubuntu install CD comes with devel tooks right, like ld, gcc, make, as, bison, perl, python ?
[04:23] <ipfw> s/tooks/tools/
[04:23] <amphi> !build-essential
[04:23] <ubotu> I heard build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[04:23] <sambagirl> well i did everything the instructions said but for some reason i dont know if the telnet server is even running i cant tell 1 way or the other? is there a test?
[04:23] <MotorCityMadMan> cnayouhelpplz: check again that you have cdrom booting first and make sure you save new config
[04:24] <AntMaz> i have broken packages how can i fix that
[04:24] <yoge> linkd: thanks, but is there any way to prevent this?, I once tried using a grub boot floppy and: root (hda0,0) ;setup(hd0);reboot ;but didn't work
[04:24] <sambagirl> marius_ you will really like NVU
[04:24] <marius_> Have any1 heard Lion King Theme song?
[04:24] <AntMaz> marius or you can use jedit
[04:24] <amphi> sambagirl: uncensored.citadel.org seems to be working, if that's what you mean
[04:24] <marius_> In the intro they sing "naaaaaziii kem venga"
[04:24] <AntMaz> thats what i use
[04:24] <Jivenix> hey, i'm trying to follow this instructions that uses a for loop in the shell
[04:24] <Jivenix> in the loop, you do
[04:25] <sambagirl> yes but that is uncensored, i we setup one on our house lans
[04:25] <Jivenix> sudo cat blah blah blah > blah
[04:25] <sambagirl> on the ubuntu computer
[04:25] <Jivenix> but i get a permission denied
[04:25] <sambagirl> er kubuntu computer
[04:25] <amphi> sambagirl: so telnet to it
[04:25] <Jivenix> its trying to do a find replace in some files
[04:25] <AntMaz> uncensored  huh samba girl
[04:25] <sambagirl> you mean mine?
[04:25] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, i agree, NVU is the closest to dreamweaver yet
[04:25] <amphi> Jivenix: you need to do cat foo | sudo tee blah I believe
[04:25] <linkd> yoge: well windows is nazi about the MBR, itll ALWAYS want to reset it so only windows boots, so when that happens you have to reinstall the bootloader to fix it
[04:25] <sambagirl> it's wonderful NVU
[04:25] <marius_> What of the VER.?
[04:26] <marius_> Im confused
[04:26] <Jivenix> i am
[04:26] <marius_> on NVU
[04:26] <Jivenix> but i get a permission denied
[04:26] <marius_> THis one?
[04:26] <marius_> Tarball built on Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5
[04:26] <navarone> yoge or install grub on floppy...<s>
[04:26] <amphi> Jivenix: you said you did sudo cat file > blah, not what I wrote
[04:26] <Jivenix> cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[04:26] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, i prefer quanta cos because i've never been a fan of wysiwyg ;) but NVU is good, yes
[04:26] <Jivenix> sudo cat*
[04:26] <Madpilot> marius_: get Nvu from the Ubuntu Universe repo...
[04:26] <MotorCityMadMan> as my eye sight is going away from me / old i is / how do i enlarge my mouse pointer ? thank you :-)
[04:26] <AntMaz> you can always use gedit
[04:26] <Jivenix> lol
[04:27] <Jivenix> there's too many files
[04:27] <marius_> Madpilot? where?
[04:27] <marius_> URL?
[04:27] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, who was that to? :P
[04:27] <amphi> Jivenix: cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' | sudo tee $conffile
[04:27] <Madpilot> marius_: Application menu --> Add Applications, then search for nvu
[04:27] <marius_> kk
[04:27] <Jivenix> lemme try
[04:27] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:27] <sambagirl> ok my domain is riojams.com but you telnet to riojams.com nothing happens. someone try and maybe you see something to explain the problem.
[04:28] <sambagirl> i probably need sub domain for like bbs.riojams.com
[04:28] <sambagirl> ?
[04:28] <navarone> MotorCityMadMan, in System.prefs/mouse you can change cursour theme...but I only have one installed myself...that I know of...lol
[04:28] <marius_> ahh 1m and then i got NVU
[04:28] <AntMaz> whoever writes with php or html
[04:28] <Jivenix> it worked!
[04:28] <Jivenix> what's tee
[04:28] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, i believe there is a way, let me find this, i was looking this up for someone yesterday
[04:28] <eugman> Hey what do I do to install a jar file?
[04:28] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, i like quanta+
[04:29] <Jivenix> eugman, copy it to the file syste
[04:29] <elkbuntu> AntMaz, it has the file browser and good syntax highlighting
[04:29] <Jivenix> m
[04:29] <rukuartic_> Hey... does anyone know how I'd log in to a terminal instead of gnome?
[04:29] <Madpilot> eugman: you don't, you just run it
[04:29] <navarone> eugman you don't install it you run it
[04:29] <amphi> sambagirl: 'Connected to c-67-191-245-116.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.' but then disconnects after I type some garbage; no prompt or message appears
[04:29] <AntMaz> ive never used that or heard of it i just started to write html and php
[04:29] <MotorCityMadMan> navarrone: wonder where i can get some cursor themse ?
[04:29] <amphi> Jivenix: man tee ;)
[04:29] <sambagirl> however the webbased versoin works. http://www.riojams.com:2000
[04:29] <Jivenix> lol ok
[04:29] <sambagirl> but the other one doesnt the telnet one.
[04:29] <AntMaz> so does jedit
[04:29] <Jivenix> thanks for the tip
[04:29] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, there is a theme specifically for accessibility, let me find the name
[04:29] <navarone> eugman command in termianl is java -far <file>.jar
[04:29] <AntMaz> and it makes pretty colors ha
[04:30] <navarone> far = jar
[04:30] <Madpilot> navarone & eugman: java -jar foo.jar
[04:30] <marius_> ByeBye pepz
[04:30] <marius_> The clock isnow in norway: 4:30 AM
[04:30] <marius_> ^^
[04:30] <Madpilot> AntMaz: try Bluefish, it's a nice HTML/CSS/etc editor
[04:30] <MotorCityMadMan> elkbuntu: thank you
[04:30] <OmegaAlpha> what does direct rendering mean? if its set to no or yes?
[04:30] <chi> sweet dns resolution is working ;]
[04:30] <marius_> MadPilot it doesnt have preview
[04:30] <navarone> marius I thought you were saying the clock was snowing...lol
[04:31] <marius_> navarone that to!
[04:31] <WezlFawlty> time dandruff
[04:31] <eugman> Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[04:31] <AntMaz> ah im ok with jedit for now
[04:31] <eugman> any ideas?
[04:31] <marius_> ByeBye
[04:31] <chi> is there a http://ubuntuguide.org/ for ubunut 5.10 ?
[04:31] <navarone> eugamn you have java installed?
[04:31] <eugman> probably not. heh
[04:31] <linkd> chi: how did u fix it in the end?
[04:32] <navarone> !java
[04:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:32] <SebastianM> hm... I pressed ctrl+alt+f2, and my computer flipped out... ^^
[04:32] <MotorCityMadMan> chi: yes http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:32] <eugman> does java common count?
[04:32] <joeljkp> can someone help me with an ATI error: "(EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed"?
[04:32] <navarone> eugman or you can use synaptic to install blackdown java
[04:32] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[04:32] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:32] <eugman> I guess not
[04:32] <rukuartic_> Hey... anyone know how I can exit XTerm and get to a straight console?
[04:32] <Madpilot> !tell chi about docs
[04:32] <AntMaz> anyone know how to fix broken packages in the synaptic package thingymabober (4|\|7|\/|42=|\|0013
[04:32] <chi> i added the dns servers that my router does its resolution so ubuntu basicly bypasses my router for dns stuff
[04:33] <Madpilot> chi: also, help.ubuntu.com
[04:33] <eugman> jre1.4?
[04:33] <linkd> chi: good call. i tried that too, but i didnt think much of the dlink 504.
[04:33] <navarone> Antmaz in synaptic "Status" choose broken and fix I guess...lol
[04:33] <corvax> i loathe dlink
[04:33] <corvax> lol
[04:33] <linkd> corvax: yea me too! all the products ive bought from them where poor
[04:33] <corvax> ive had nothing but problems with their products
[04:33] <linkd> *were
[04:34] <linkd> ditto!
[04:34] <AntMaz> well you guessed wrong, didnt work
[04:34] <corvax> i have 2 routers and a pcmcia card sitting on the rack now
[04:34] <corvax> just collecting dust
[04:34] <navarone> Antmaz Edit/Fix Broken packages
[04:35] <linkd> i refused to buy a pcmcia card from them (tho i nearly!) and i have 2 routers collecting dust also. then i have a shitty kvm them made too
[04:35] <AntMaz> ok thank you
[04:35] <eugman> Man linux always finds new way to make me feel like an idiot and a genius.
[04:35] <linkd> *tho i nearly did
[04:35] <corvax> the card wouldnt even power up even in windows
[04:35] <navarone> AntMaz, if it was a bear it would have bite you...;
[04:35] <linkd> yea, i wised up at that point and went with linksys. a prism2 card. good stuff.
[04:36] <corvax> well it did a few times
[04:36] <corvax> and that was it
[04:36] <AntMaz> i ask some questions sometimes and while im waiting for an answer i figure them out usually
[04:36] <AntMaz> im just special
[04:36] <AntMaz> dee dee dee
[04:37] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, if you havent done so already, you should do this: apt-get install gnome-accessibility-themes gtk2-engines-highcontrast
[04:37] <rukuartic_> Does anyone know how to drop out of a gnome session while logged in and just end up with a terminal?
[04:37] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu:thank you
[04:37] <amphi> rukuartic_: alt-ctrl-f1 ?
[04:38] <rukuartic_> Does that actually close gnome?
[04:38] <rukuartic_> or does that just send you to a console?
[04:38] <navarone> rukuartic_,  init 3  maybe rukuartic_
[04:38] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, i would presume the gnome accessibility theme would have better cursors in it
[04:38] <amphi> rukuartic_: perhaps sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:39] <rukuartic> identify altec
[04:39] <rukuartic> Dooooh.
[04:39] <linkd> haha
[04:39] <linkd> password changing time
[04:39] <iceman2k> well, anyoe able to help on the nvidia install
[04:39] <amphi> rukuartic_: to permanently remove gui login, update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:39] <djzn> is there a way to see spectral view in AUDACITY?
[04:39] <Madpilot> rukuartic: might want to change your pw now...
[04:39] <rukuartic> bwahaha yes.
[04:39] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu: ok thak you , one more thing / how do i copy the nicks for faster working in chat win ?
[04:40] <amphi> MotorCityMadMan: you should be able to tab-complete them
[04:40] <corvax> !nvidia
[04:40] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, you can type the start of someone's nick and hit tab
[04:40] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:40] <iceman2k> I need the link to the nvidia video driver page ... how to ... please
[04:40] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:40] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, if there are multiple options, xchat will likely tell you so you can add more letters
[04:40] <iceman2k> corvax thanks
[04:40] <eugman> Hey is there any good programing langauge with acess to sdl or some other drawing library and has simple syntax?
[04:41] <corvax> yw
[04:41] <amphi> eugman: c
[04:41] <ptlo> eugman: python + pygame
[04:42] <amphi> eugman: c + svgalib for console fun ;)
[04:42] <rukuartic> haleighluiah! mysql finished compiliing
[04:42] <rukuartic> that took forever
[04:42] <Madpilot> rukuartic: php is in the repos - why did you compile?
[04:43] <OmegaAlpha> anyone now what direct rendering does if its turned on ?
[04:43] <iceman2k> there anyway to confirm if the nvidia driver is installed ?
[04:43] <amphi> OmegaAlpha: 3d accel
[04:43] <rukuartic> Madpilot, Got too much time on mah hands :D
[04:44] <rukuartic> That, and I'm trying to learn a bit of linux in my spare time
[04:44] <eugman> K. I need to take a few steps up from TI89Basic. Unfortunately I had a lot of problems last time I tried learning c/c++ with sdl because I had trouble learning when you need a semicolon or parenthisis and such.
[04:44] <eugman> And inheritence. I still haven't learned that works yet.
[04:44] <MotorCityMadMan> what this all about ? Couldn't stat source package list http://  bal bl bl and so on stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:44] <MotorCityMadMan>
[04:44] <iceman2k> whats the glx gears run command ?
[04:45] <Madpilot> iceman2k: glxgears
[04:45] <OmegaAlpha> amphi, hello again.  well i was just reading in wiki about it. you remember the probs i had.. should mine be on?
[04:45] <elkbuntu> hmm..
[04:45] <Alexi5> later
[04:45] <iceman2k> Madpilot well, loox like i lack glx installed
[04:46] <Jivenix> i went through the instructions to get my wifi card working, and i got as far as installing the driver such that ndiwrapper -l shows it installed wiht no error
[04:46] <Jivenix> and the wifi enabled light comes on
[04:46] <MotorCityMadMan> Failed to fetch /  404 Not Found
[04:46] <Jivenix> when i boot into ubuntu, but it does not show up in the network config tool
[04:46] <Jivenix> or when i do iwconfig
[04:46] <Jivenix> or ifconfig
[04:47] <Jivenix> any suggestions?
[04:47] <MotorCityMadMan> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:47] <jariep1_> hi all
[04:47] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <gloin> ergh
[04:48] <jariep1_> somebody told me before how to change between installed java versions, but I can't seem to remember
[04:48] <Alexi5> hello
[04:48] <fangorious> is there a tool to tell me the current refresh rate?
[04:48] <gloin> so I'm not able to get tv viewer to work
[04:48] <gloin> if it shows anything at all it's just static
[04:48] <Alexi5> why does ubuntu use so much memory
[04:48] <rukuartic> Alexi5, Gnome :P
[04:48] <gloin> this hardware was working perfectly under SuSE this morning, so I know the tv is right
[04:48] <gloin> hehe
[04:48] <gloin> rukuartic: some of us are kubuntu people
[04:49] <Alexi5> acording to the 'top' command my system is using 754636k
[04:49] <Alexi5> i have 768MB RAM
[04:49] <rukuartic> gloin, Heh
[04:49] <Madpilot> Alexi5: because you've got it available - Linux will use all of your available resources
[04:49] <Alexi5> oh ok
[04:49] <Madpilot> Alexi5: most of that usage is probably cache
[04:49] <fangorious> Alexi5: linux keeps recently used data/programs cached in memory even after they're not in use, because those things are more likely to be needed in the near future
[04:49] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot, i started of trying to incress my poniter size / so i started here:apt-get install gnome-accessibility-themes gtk2-engines-highcontrast
[04:49] <Madpilot> try "free" instead of "top"
[04:49] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, it hasnt managed to use up 3.6gb of swap yet :)
[04:50] <corvax> jivenix
[04:50] <Alexi5> but i see the total amount of memory used by the applications running according to top don't add up to the amount used
[04:50] <gloin> !!!
[04:50] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gloin
[04:50] <gloin> !kdetv
[04:50] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gloin
[04:50] <corvax> click system and network
[04:50] <gloin> sigh
[04:50] <Alexi5> ok
[04:50] <gloin> !tv
[04:50] <ubotu> gloin: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <iceman> is there a easy way to reconfigure your screen resolution settings ....
[04:50] <rukuartic> On the topic of system memory
[04:50] <corvax> is the wireless card listed there>?
[04:50] <fangorious> Alexi5:  that's because data is being kept in memory, as it is the most likely data to be used in the future
[04:50] <rukuartic> How would I stop some certain things from booting/running? Like RAID services and HP Printing Support?
[04:51] <Alexi5> ok
[04:51] <rukuartic> Last I checked, I have no RAID devices or HP printers
[04:51] <MotorCityMadMan> i just install ubuntu yesterday / all new here / i can't see the letters on the screen or the mouse pointer
[04:51] <WezlFawlty> CanYouHelpMePlz are you here?
[04:51] <Alexi5> when i used freebsd it only used about 200MB max when running gnome
[04:51] <iceman> I need to shrink my on screen icons ... in gnome ... help
[04:51] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, Do you have  a supported graphics card?
[04:52] <gloin> ok, I'm going to try xawtv
[04:52] <MotorCityMadMan> rukuartic, where do i look to find ?
[04:52] <ablyss> rukuartic, i use webmin to do things like that
[04:52] <fangorious> how can I check what vertical refresh rate my display is running at?
[04:52] <Igorayeb> My CUPS donto start anybody know whats happenw
[04:53] <rukuartic> ablyss, that some gui program?
[04:53] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: have you added the Universe repos?
[04:53] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, crack open your box
[04:53] <gloin> what's the name of the gnome tv viewer?
[04:53] <MotorCityMadMan> rukuartic, ok taking box apart now /
[04:54] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: do you have a display at all, or what?
[04:54] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, I'm just guessing you don't have a supported gfx card
[04:54] <ablyss> rukuartic, it is a web browser based thing
[04:54] <rukuartic> MotorCityMadMan, Did you try typing "starx"?
[04:54] <rukuartic> ablyss, Do tell
[04:54] <MotorCityMadMan> Madpilot, what is universe reos ?
[04:54] <iceman> anyone know if battlefield 2 is available for linux ...
[04:54] <rukuartic> iceman, The server? Probably
[04:55] <Evodawg> rukuartic: do you mean startx?
[04:55] <gloin> iceman: no...
[04:55] <Alexi5> is it rather unusual for someone to add 768MB of RAM to a system just to run linux
[04:55] <Madpilot> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:55] <rukuartic> Evodawg, Tha ttoo
[04:55] <iceman> any other good games for linux ?
[04:55] <gloin> !tv
[04:55] <ubotu> gloin: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:55] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: see the bot's post above ^^^
[04:55] <rukuartic> Madpilot, he's got no gui
[04:55] <MotorCityMadMan> yes
[04:55] <rukuartic> Madpilot, gnome's not running
[04:56] <Madpilot> rukuartic: ah... bleh, messy
[04:56] <rukuartic> Madpilot, Wait, what do you mean no display?
[04:56] <ablyss> rukuartic, if you do apt-get install webmin, access the webmin login page at http://localhost:10000 user 'root' password is not set in ubuntu so you have to modify it yourself 'sudo -c root passwd'
[04:56] <iceman> I know farcry is available for linux ... A A .... wolfenstein ... any others
[04:56] <vercellone> I have sarge installed and running on /dev/sda1, and am trying establish a parallel ubuntu install on /dev/sdc1, but am having trouble getting it to boot my grub configuration keeps resulting in cannot mount root fs kernel panic error
[04:56] <wastrel> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[04:57] <Madpilot> iceburgh: Enemy Territory is available, free to download
[04:57] <ablyss> https://localhost:10000 sorry rukuartic use https not http
[04:57] <gloin> something's wrong with this damn tv decoder
[04:57] <gloin> but it worked
[04:57] <terribleCabbage> So, err, just a quick question: does Ubuntu support IDE harddrives and SATA harddrives together in the same system?
[04:58] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know the Opengl update command?
[04:58] <ablyss> rukuartic, from there you can mess around with the start up processes as easy as checking email
[04:58] <rukuartic> ablyss, thx
[04:58] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: sure, I had both for a while - currenly SATA only
[04:58] <wastrel> is there a mail server installed by default with breezy?
[04:59] <MotorCityMadMan> ubotu, thank you / good start for me / very kind to help a new memeber
[04:59] <ablyss> fetchmail ?
[04:59] <ubotu> MotorCityMadMan: de nada
[04:59] <vercellone> I think my ubuntu install is updating the wrong devices mbr
[04:59] <wastrel> ablyss:  i meant an SMTP server
[04:59] <fangorious> fetchmail isn't a server
[04:59] <_jason> wow that's the first smart thing I have ever seen ubotu do :)
[04:59] <ablyss> okay sorry
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Ok. I couldn't get it to install with both present, so I disabled the SATA and installed to the IDE. Booting from that works fine. As soon as I try to boot with the SATA drives enabled, GRUB dies on me.
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> (Error code 31? I'll have to check again.)
[04:59] <fangorious> wastrel: i don't think so, but postfix is in the repos
[04:59] <terribleCabbage> ... Sorry, 22.*
[05:00] <wastrel> fangorious:  kk just wondering.  i have mailq but no mail server heh
[05:00] <Madpilot> MotorCityMadMan: ubotu is a bot - but it knows about 'thank you', I see
[05:00] <wastrel> i just decided to see where all my system mail was going heh
[05:00] <fangorious> wastrel: exim4 is packaged too
[05:00] <Madpilot> ubotu tell MotorCityMadMan about yourself
[05:00] <gloin> frell
[05:00] <gloin> something's broken in ubuntu
[05:00] <fangorious> wastrel: i've wondered about that too, never cared enough to find out though ;)
[05:00] <gloin> for tv viewing
[05:01] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to run apache toolbox so it doesn't try to reconfigure and install stuff if it crashes?
[05:01] <iceman> any good 3d shooters for linux ....
[05:01] <rukuartic> iceman, bzflag
[05:02] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Do the drive references stay the same when you have the SATA/IDE combo? (As in, I have the following hd setup: IDE, IDE, two cdroms, then two SATA drives. Will the second drive remain hdb with the SATA drives enabled?)
[05:02] <MotorCityMadMan> MotorCityMadMan, needs a smoke
[05:02] <MotorCityMadMan> brain over load
[05:02] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: the SATA drives will be sdX - so sda, sdb etc
[05:02] <iceman> rukuartic ... not that great ... compared to enemy terratory
[05:02] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Here we go, someone with the same question: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-123187.html
[05:02] <rukuartic> iceman, Its a time consumer :D
[05:02] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: when I had 1 SATA & 1 ATA/IDE, they were sda1 & hda1
[05:03] <Jivenix> is there a way i can get/change/use su password?
[05:03] <iceman> i want good multiplayer ... large maps ...
[05:03] <fangorious> Jivenix: 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell, you can probably run 'passwd root' from there
[05:03] <Madpilot> iceman: America's Army? (assuming you don't mind a bit of US military propaganda on your computer...)
[05:04] <Jivenix> ok i'll try
[05:04] <AntMaz> BOOM HEADSHOT
[05:04] <Madpilot> Jivenix: why do you need a root pw?
[05:04] <iceman> Madpilot ... A A is fair .... Training requirements suck ...
[05:04] <fangorious> Jivenix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[05:05] <ablyss> Jivenix, su -c root passwd
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  i think hes thinking of just changing the first users password.
[05:05] <Jivenix> i got it, thanks
[05:05] <Tezkah> anyone know why ra0 (ralink wireless driver) causes the system to do a hard lockup when activated?
[05:05] <terribleCabbage> Gah, is it always so busy in here?
[05:05] <Tezkah> (on dapper drake no less)
[05:05] <cfh_dev> Has anyone been able to install Opera 9 TP2 on Ubuntu?
[05:05] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: this is pretty standard for this channel
[05:05] <ablyss> terribleCabbage, this is relativley slow night :P
[05:06] <Madpilot> cfh_dev: yeah, I did just a few hours ago, actually - it's pretty cool
[05:06] <ablyss> opera 9 TP2 ?
[05:07] <ACU> Hi guys - do you know how to install kerbersos or LDAP so I can access a windows network --- loging in a windows domain ?
[05:07] <Madpilot> ablyss: yes
[05:07] <Tezkah> technical preview two, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A//snapshot.opera.com/unix/u90p2.html&ei=5O73Q5yuNZ3CiwGowK3mAg&sig2=8-vWIowkrt7vxAB-iQOaLw
[05:07] <ablyss> cfh_dev, as far as I know I use the latest opera on ubuntu.. unless I missed something
[05:07] <jdumont> Yes I could look up repositorie on the net but what does it mean in laymans terms?  Referring to the ftp repositorie. (sp)?
[05:07] <Tezkah> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/9.0-Preview-2/intel-linux/  cant you just install this with dpkg -i ???
[05:07] <ablyss> TP2 = test preview 2 ?
[05:07] <Tezkah> opera-static_9.0-20060206.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[05:07] <fangorious> I have three modelines for resolutions at 75 Hz refresh rate, and they are the only resolutions configured for my color depth, but I'm still not getting a display at 75 Hz (only 60 Hz). How come I've even getting a display if it's not a configured resolution?
[05:07] <Madpilot> Tezkah: sure
[05:07] <cfh_dev> I can't seem to resolve the dependencies. (xlibs xlib6g)
[05:08] <Madpilot> ablyss: technical preview I think
[05:08] <_jason> jdumont: it's an online storage site for packages
[05:08] <chuck> Anyone know how to configure tetex for Japanese?
[05:08] <ablyss> oh
[05:08] <FSCK> PLEASE HELP!!! I cannot boot into Breezy!!! Root file check constantlly fails on bootup and I don't know what to do. PLEASE HELP!!!
[05:08] <ablyss> i'm probably running standard version
[05:08] <elkbuntu> MotorCityMadMan, did you get those packages installed?
[05:08] <Tezkah> hahaha... someone has IE VIEW installed on Firefox on Linux
[05:08] <fangorious> FSCK: does it give you a root prompt after failing the root fs check?
[05:08] <cfh_dev> ablyss: I'm running Dapper
[05:09] <FSCK> fangorious:  yes. something like root@(none)~#: or something like it...
[05:09] <redblade> got a Nmap 3.95 but I'm not sur ehow to get it working. I have all the files but when a Cd'd to the Directory,
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: root@(none):~#
[05:10] <fangorious> FSCK: at that prompt, run 'fsck' with your root fs partition (something like /dev/hda1) and answer 'y' to everything
[05:10] <redblade> It didn't recognise it so I don't know which file to use
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: even Y to abort?
[05:10] <fangorious> FSCK: at least, every time it asks if you want to fix something
[05:10] <AntMaz> how do i configure lilypond-data
[05:10] <Dasnipa`> whats the command to apt-get install from a .deb file thats on the local drive?
[05:10] <terribleCabbage> Madpilot: Could you have a look at this, sorry? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123187
[05:10] <FSCK> fangorious: ok but last I remember from the 50+ times I never realy got asked to fix anything :(
[05:11] <FSCK> I'll try your method
[05:11] <fangorious> FSCK: when it runs automatically it is run with -a, which tells it to fix everything automatically
[05:11] <corvax> dpkg -i andoffile.deb
[05:12] <corvax> nameof file
[05:12] <FSCK> fangorious: it goes thruogh checks but thats all... I press Ctrl D OR enter shutdown -r now and nothing works... I'll get back to the boot screen and stop at root checking again :(
[05:12] <fangorious> FSCK: but the check it does during boot will fail until you get thru fsck without using -a
[05:12] <FSCK> ok back at the prompt
[05:13] <FSCK> fangorious: I am not told that anything is fixed. I am told either the superblock or the partition table is corrupt... I've gone through this so many times :(
[05:13] <Madpilot> terribleCabbage: hmm - my mobo is an older Asus (a7v-something) and it works fine with SATA, ATA or both...
[05:14] <fangorious> FSCK: that sounds like it might be something else from what I was thinking
[05:14] <terribleCabbage> Hrm.  I set up a server, well kind of, but I want to know how to change the site from the default message
[05:14] <vercellone> can someone point me to the proper grub menu.lst entries to boot ubuntu from something other than hd0?
[05:14] <jdumont> if forgot to write down the command to make my ubuntu an edubuntu via a download.  :(  anyone have it?
[05:14] <FSCK> fangorious: I have a love/hate relationship with Ubuntu and right about now, I hate it...
[05:14] <redblade> I'm just not sure where the fiel would be, I'm looking for something with a .htm/l suffix
[05:15] <vercellone> root(hd2,0)/vmlinuz is not cutting it
[05:15] <jdumont> i forgot to write down the command to make my ubuntu an edubuntu via a download.  :(  anyone have it?
[05:15] <fangorious> FSCK: obviously you have a second machine that you're connected with. can you try burning a livecd to boot off of to check the partition table and such
[05:15] <_jason> jdumont: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop, perhaps?
[05:15] <jdumont> that was it... thanks _jason.
[05:16] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:16] <fangorious> redblade: you could try 'locate index.html'
[05:16] <IAmWill> ** and
[05:16] <_jason> redblade: what file?
[05:16] <Swif> hello im trying to install kde on ubuntu I have ubuntu on vmware in xp pro actualy
[05:16] <concept10> Anyone of you guys know how to switch to hardware acceleration in xorg?
[05:16] <fangorious> concept10: change the driver to one that supports it for your card/
[05:16] <FSCK> fangorious: I am using the dapper live now to talk here... I don't know how to test the partition tables and fix them worse comes to worse... This is what I mean. I love Ubuntu but notice small problems aint really small... :(
[05:16] <Madpilot> concept10: what graphics card do you have?
[05:16] <jdumont> so now that i have edubuntu ... is it exactly what I would have if I downloaded the edubuntu .iso?
[05:16] <redblade> well I used apache to set upa  webserver and I want to change the http://localhost page
[05:17] <_jason> redblade: /var/www
[05:17] <IAmWill> ** and
[05:17] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:17] <Swif> I tryed apt-get install kde but cant find it I tryed apt-get cache search kde nothin I can recognize
[05:17] <concept10> fangorious, I changed back to the original ATI driver that comes to breezy, but when I try to run this game it says its using Mesa
[05:17] <concept10> Madpilot, ATI
[05:17] <_jason> redblade: /var/www/index.html to be more precise
[05:17] <concept10> Madpilot, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M
[05:17] <Swif> how can I install kde on ubuntu??
[05:17] <ubuntu> hi
[05:17] <ubuntu> all
[05:17] <cfh_dev> Swif: Do you want the full kubuntu desktop?
[05:17] <_jason> Swif: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <fangorious> concept10:  were you having problems with the binary driver from Ati?
[05:18] <tinin> !kde
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:18] <IAmWill> I am having some trouble with the Ubuntu livecd nad install cd... It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:18] <ubuntu> bye
[05:18] <redblade> _jason. they all have .en, .it etc
[05:18] <gangsta> i cant get direct rendering with ati can some one help me
[05:18] <redblade> which one?
[05:18] <concept10> Madpilot, fangorious :  it was working great until I tried to install the ATI fglrx drivers
[05:18] <_jason> redblade: no index.html?
[05:18] <_jason> redblade: or index.php perhaps?
[05:18] <concept10> gangsta, im trying to switch back myself
[05:18] <redblade> I don't think so but there are a lot of file in it
[05:19] <fangorious> concept10: did you use this howto? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[05:19] <Swif> thanx Jason 8-)
[05:19] <_jason> redblade: /var/www, not /var/www/apache2-default.  Just create a /var/www/index.html
[05:19] <fangorious> FSCK: does the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' (substituting the right device for hda) look right?
[05:19] <redblade> oh
[05:19] <gangsta> concept10: the fglrx just wont give me direct rendering :S it goes trought Mesa
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta, im having the same prob... the opengl-update ati doesnt work right?
[05:20] <concept10> fangorious, thanks for the link.  I will try it, I just dont see my card supported by the 'fglrx' driver. It worked fine with the default breezy driver
[05:20] <gangsta> OmegaAlpha: i dont have opengl-update
[05:20] <concept10> gangsta, OmegaAlpha Im having the same problem
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta.. yep. indirect rendering im tryign to figure that out right now as we speak for the past hour
[05:20] <wastrel> concept10:  did you backup your old xorg.conf ?
[05:20] <fangorious> concept10: well, if the binary driver doesn't support your card, then there might not be much point
[05:20] <wastrel> what's opengl-update ati  ?
[05:21] <Swif> Jason copuldnt find package kubuntu-desktop??
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> gangsta, yeah i know neither do i
[05:21] <concept10> wastrel, I did, but it didnt work when I switched back
[05:21] <wastrel> concept10:  your driver module may not have been running
[05:21] <_jason> !info kubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[05:21] <_jason> Swif: have you enabled the main repository?
[05:21] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, its nothing... its the command for another distro not ubuntu.. its the only thing i can find on the net to update gl to turn on rendering
[05:21] <biovore> dose he have /etc/apt/sources.list setup correctly
[05:21] <Swif> Jason it cant find it
[05:21] <fangorious> concept10: maybe you've got some combination of files from both the open source 'ati' driver and Ati's 'fglrx' driver screwing things up
[05:21] <redblade> that's weird _jason
[05:22] <redblade> I can't place files in that folder
[05:22] <_jason> redblade: ?
[05:22] <Swif> how to enable the main repository?
[05:22] <Swif> Jason
[05:22] <_jason> redblade: right, it belongs to root
[05:22] <IAmWill> Does anyone know anything about a simple boot problem for ubuntu?   It keeps hanging at "38.847122 intput: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"  Can someone please help me.
[05:22] <Steven_M> ow can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access) The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to run the program as.
[05:22] <wisie> I've gotta ask, I had stuff on my desktop then I restarted and it all seems to be gone, whats up with that?   I need direct rendering or whatever its called to play my game
[05:23] <redblade> _jason, I would use sudo cp...
[05:23] <redblade> ?
[05:23] <_jason> redblade: personally, I change group ownership to www-data and make myself a member.  Some people move it to their home folder.  I am much of an expert on what is preferred.  Yes, you can just use sudo...
[05:23] <IAmWill> fangorious: ignoring someone in need of help isn't a good way to assist either!  :)
[05:23] <_jason> redblade: that should read ``I am /not/ much of an expert'' :)
[05:24] <redblade> oh lol
[05:24] <wastrel> Steven_M:  su -c  ?
[05:24] <concept10> IAmWill, people in here have various experience with different aspects with Linux and ubuntu, be patient.  If someone doesnt answer your question it means that they might not know
[05:24] <fangorious> IAmWill: what kind of keyboard are you using?
[05:24] <wastrel> concept10:  did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:25] <concept10> wastrel, yeah, I call it drxx for short :)
[05:25] <IAmWill> lol... no one has known the awnser for about 4 hours now.... its a livecd/install boot problem
[05:25] <wastrel> ahh
[05:25] <wastrel> concept10:  ok so then what happened?
[05:25] <concept10> IAmWill, you should try that command
[05:25] <IAmWill> fangorious: its a laptop
[05:25] <concept10> wastrel, I configured it back to original, desktop works fine, trying to get it out of Mesa
[05:26] <william> can someone help me with tomcat on ubuntu 5.10
[05:26] <wastrel> concept10:  what card?
[05:26] <fangorious> IAmWill: what kind of laptop?
[05:26] <IAmWill> fangorious: Compaq v2570
[05:26] <concept10> wastrel, , VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 340M
[05:26] <fangorious> it
[05:26] <concept10> wastrel, I get this error when I try to run my game: You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[05:27] <redblade> _jason, I moved index.html to /var/www
[05:27] <redblade> is that right?
[05:27] <fangorious> IAmWill: using the x86_64 livecd?
[05:27] <_jason> redblade: try it :)
[05:27] <Swif> Jason think I did it
[05:27] <Swif> there was 2 unselected
[05:27] <redblade> hmm the page is the same
[05:27] <_jason> Swif: see if you can find kubuntu-desktop now
[05:27] <Steven_M> wastrel: when ever I use su it complains that it can't connct to xserver.
[05:27] <IAmWill> fangorious: is that the same as the amd64... ?? or is that a seporate cd?
[05:27] <biovore> IAmWill: you using the 64bit ubuntu?
[05:27] <redblade> It's says "It Work's!"
[05:27] <Swif> universe source and binary right
[05:28] <fangorious> IAmWill: that's the one, x86_64 is AMD's 64 bit instruction set
[05:28] <concept10> wastrel, so im trying to find out what I have to do to turn on hardware acceleration
[05:28] <Swif> ok ima try now
[05:28] <redblade> It was supposed to but I want to change it now
[05:28] <IAmWill> fangorious: okay, then yes
[05:29] <redblade> perhaps I need to tell the server to look somewhere else for th epage?
[05:29] <_jason> redblade: plastebin the output of 'ls /var/www' please
[05:29] <Swif> Jason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <Swif> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:29] <_jason> Swif: close synaptic
[05:29] <Swif> im in the root@ubuntu/home/admin
[05:29] <Swif> o
[05:29] <redblade> okay
[05:30] <vercellone> mmm k....thanks for nuttin..I figured it out
[05:30] <wisie> so confusing
[05:30] <redblade> OH no...
[05:30] <redblade> I can't remeber where the pastebin is
[05:30] <redblade> I feel so stupid
[05:30] <_jason> redblade: /topic
[05:30] <Swif> Jason this is what I got: root@ubuntu:/home/admin # sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <Swif> Reading Package Lists... Done
[05:30] <Swif> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[05:30] <Swif> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:30] <Swif> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:30] <Swif> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <_jason> Swif: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:30] <Swif> root@ubuntu:/home/admin #
[05:30] <Steven_M> Fangorious: how can you run a program as a different user if kde is loged in as a non-admin account? (non-admin meaning an account with no sudo access) The "run as different user" option in Run Command only seems to want a sudo password, instead of the password for the user whom you're trying to run the program as.
[05:30] <redblade> thanks
[05:30] <_jason> Swif: sudo apt-get update
[05:30] <william> i'm getting error
[05:30] <william> The JAVA_HOME environment variable is not defined
[05:30] <william>  when trying to start tomcat
[05:31] <ejofee> how do i make the sun's java default on my ubuntu instead of gcj?
[05:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell ejofee about multijava
[05:32] <fangorious> Steven_M: you could always start a terminal and su to the user, then run the command from there
[05:32] <frank23> ejofee: from memory update-alternative java something... I forget
[05:32] <wisie> can I just ask a simple question to you guys
[05:32] <_jason> wisie: just ask
[05:32] <wastrel> Steven_M:  ahh yes, $DISPLAY and x server access... hmm i dunno :/
[05:32] <ablyss> dont ask to ask
[05:32] <redblade> okay here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8830
[05:32] <Swif> Jason it updated 8-)
[05:32] <fangorious> IAmWill: I'm not finding anything to help, you should probably submit a bug report
[05:32] <MotorCityMadMan> elkuntu, some thing may be wroug /
[05:32] <ejofee> frank23, _jason: thank you
[05:32] <wisie> I was logged into ubuntu before, restarted and now everything seems to of dissapeared, my settings in firefox and what not.. How can I revert back to that?
[05:32] <Swif> now apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should work??
[05:33] <fangorious> IAmWill: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[05:33] <gangsta> concept10: kernel module is loaded, Xorg module is loaded and i still get Mesa
[05:33] <Steven_M> fangorious: it complaints about not being able to connect to the x server
[05:33] <concept10> gangsta, how did you get on mesa?
[05:33] <IAmWill> thanks
[05:33] <Swif> Jason it cant find package
[05:33] <concept10> gangsta, did you try to install the fglrx packages?
[05:33] <fangorious> Steven_M: start a terminal, run 'xhost +', then su, run 'export DISPLAY=:0', then the command
[05:34] <_jason> redblade: that really should be working... what does 'cat /var/www/index.html' show?
[05:34] <frank23> ejofee: its   update-alternatives --config java
[05:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Swif about easysource
[05:34] <newbuntie> wisie: you were logged into the same account?
[05:34] <Jivenix> how come when i edit a file, i get some file ~file hanging around
[05:34] <_jason> Swif: use that to make a new /etc/apt/sources.list and replace yours
[05:34] <gangsta> yes  i have the fglrx drivers installed but Mesa is used
[05:34] <newbuntie> wisie: er I mean as the same user?
[05:34] <redblade> _Jason, it shows the HTML of my page
[05:34] <concept10> gangsta, what card do you have?
[05:35] <_jason> redblade: maybe it's your browsers cache, try refreshing from network
[05:35] <wisie> I only have one account, unless I was logged into the root or something? Is that possible
[05:35] <gangsta> concept10: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
[05:35] <fangorious> redblade: I wasn't watching so this may have been checked already, but have you looked at the httpd.conf file to confirm that /var/www is actually the doc root?
[05:35] <concept10> I see everywhere people explaining how to install the driver, im trying to get back on 'dri'
[05:35] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit dapper running good
[05:35] <redblade> oh... oops
[05:35] <redblade> sorry
[05:35] <_jason> redblade: refresh worked?
[05:36] <fangorious> concept10: what's something quick I can do to confirm that dri is going through hardware?
[05:36] <gangsta> glxinfo
[05:36] <newbuntie> wisi: no, is your old firefox profile still there?
[05:36] <concept10> fangorious, I dont know.  I see it in xorg.conf
[05:37] <gangsta> fangorious: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[05:37] <flodine> well
[05:37] <Swif> Jason I genarated a list now to add I do what? as root do I paste the whole thing?
[05:37] <flodine> 64 bit folks
[05:37] <flodine> anyone
[05:37] <ejofee> frank23: thanks again
[05:37] <frank23> fangorious: im not sure what you're asking  glxinfo | grep direct    if you get direct rendering yes, you have 3d acceleration
[05:37] <_jason> Swif: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, delete the contents, paste the new one
[05:37] <_jason> save
[05:37] <concept10> gangsta, thanks for that because glxinfo | grep dri gave me nothing
[05:37] <gangsta> concept10: yw
[05:37] <Swif> ok thanks 8-)
[05:37] <Steven_M> fangorious: how do you enable it for a specific instead of everyone?
[05:37] <fangorious> gangsta: thanks. i see so many people say they can't get the binary drivers working and realise the only measuring stick I've used is if I can select GL screensavers or not
[05:38] <wastrel> concept10:  it's glxinfo | grep direct
[05:38] <concept10> gangsta, your command gave me direct rendering: No
[05:38] <gangsta> concept10: the same with me
[05:38] <fangorious> Steven_M: well, I don't think xhost is per user, it's per machine. So you can do xhost + localhost to open it to everyone on the local machine
[05:38] <wisie> newbuntie: the weird thing is, the profile is gone, my desktop stuff is gone and things in the trash are gone.. It was the first time i had ever logged in if that makes any sense.. I shutdown properly after finishing useage but now that I have started up it seems to be all gone
[05:38] <concept10> gangsta, okay, lets figure this out, what do we have to do!  (im ready to shoot some people in this game)
[05:39] <fangorious> Steven_M seems I'm wrong, try 'xhost + username'
[05:39] <gangsta> (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled <- but glxinfo gives me direct rendering: No, thats a bit strange
[05:39] <frank23> i think you can do  xhost + to open to everyone
[05:40] <wastrel> concept10:  heh i just broke X on my other computer trying to figure this out :]
[05:40] <fangorious> frank23: yeah, he wanted to enable just one user
[05:40] <newbuntie> wisi: hm...and you're sure you're logged in as the same user....no idea what could cause that
[05:40] <Jivenix> whats with the file with a ~ next to it when i edit something with gedit?
[05:40] <concept10> wastrel, sorry! go back to orig conf file
[05:40] <wastrel> gangsta:  what does fglrxinfo give you?
[05:40] <Jivenix> !~
[05:40] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[05:40] <wastrel> concept10:  no worries ;]
[05:41] <concept10> gangsta, oh yeah, I saw one way to do it
[05:41] <wisie> Is it possible that i could of been logged into root?
[05:41] <gangsta> wastrel: OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.or
[05:41] <concept10> gangsta, someone just changed the driver name and it works, let me find it
[05:41] <wastrel> Jivenix:  that's the working copy,
[05:41] <kasuko> Can anyone help me get dual monitors working with my nvidia graphics card?
[05:41] <Jivenix> how does it go away
[05:41] <ablyss> Jivenix, temp file.. gedit backs up whatever file you save unles you turn off that setting in gedit
[05:41] <iceman> Wish that they would get more applications, games, and plugin's working in 64 bit ...
[05:41] <Jivenix> oh
[05:41] <gangsta> concept10: my driver name is fglrx and that aint the problem
[05:42] <newbuntie> wisi: root is disabled, so no, but go to Administration > users and groups and check if there are any other users on your system
[05:42] <Madpilot> wisie: there is not working root login in Ubuntu, unless you've added one
[05:42] <Steven_M> fangorious: would +localhost be secure, or would it be easy for someone to hack in from the net?
[05:42] <redblade> _jason, fangorious, I'm still unsure what to do.
[05:42] <concept10> gangsta, are you trying to install XGL after you get that working?
[05:43] <redblade> I'm looking for the source file for the page that keeps coming up.
[05:43] <wisie> newbuntie: I'm the only user, how bizarre.. Oh well! Back to installing apache and what not.. Thanks anyway though :) appreciated
[05:43] <redblade> but I have no idea where it is
[05:43] <fangorious> Steven_M: for security it'd probably be better to use xhost + username. but if you don't have any services accepting connections on non-localhost IP addresses, you probably don't have much to worry about
[05:43] <newbuntie> any idea guys what could cause stuff on desktop, mozilla profile and other stuff to just disappear? :)
[05:44] <corvax> new a wife or gf
[05:44] <corvax> deleting them]
[05:44] <gangsta> concept10: i have Xgl and Compiz installed and it will work if i get my direct rendering back ;)
[05:44] <fangorious> redblade: apache?
[05:44] <frank23> newbuntie: using a live cd :)
[05:44] <kasuko> Anyone know anything about twinview and nvidia cards?
[05:44] <wisie> it's not a live cd, installed on hardrive :)
[05:44] <corvax> cause you lert yourself logged in
[05:44] <corvax> ?
[05:44] <concept10> gangsta, oh okay.  youre already on dapper?
[05:44] <ablyss> newbuntie, logging in as a different user
[05:44] <gangsta> concept10: yes
[05:44] <iceman> it's still stinks that Loki games went goodbye ...
[05:45] <redblade> all the files in there are .conf or .types
[05:45] <newbuntie> wisi: this only happened once? And all you did was shut down and rebooted?
[05:45] <fangorious> redblade: in where?
[05:45] <redblade> /etc/apache/
[05:45] <wisie> yep only once
[05:45] <fangorious> redblade: is there an /etc/apache/httpd.conf?
[05:45] <redblade> yep
[05:46] <_jason> redblade: oh you aren't use apache2?  mine is setup in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default for apache2 if that helps
[05:46] <Swif> Jason copy from # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources,??
[05:46] <fangorious> redblade: can you grep for \/var\/www
[05:46] <concept10> gangsta, this graphics drivers and all of the config is crazy
[05:46] <Swif> or the whole thing
[05:46] <redblade> I have apache2 aswell
[05:46] <wastrel> concept10:  ok this is my xorg.conf   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8831     i do have dri working - hope it helps ;]
[05:46] <_jason> Swif: just hit generate and copy the whole thing it gives you (after checking the stuff you want)
[05:46] <Swif> I dont want to mess it up lol
[05:46] <redblade> long story short - sloppy setup
[05:47] <Swif> replace all of it ok
[05:47] <_jason> redblade: apache2 would have /etc/apache2
[05:47] <newbuntie> wisie: no idea what could cause that if it isn't reapeating, sry
[05:47] <TestDummy> Hey um, quick question, what WM do you think would work best for an old Celeron box?
[05:47] <TestDummy> Gnome is just killing it =(
[05:47] <redblade> yeah I have that too
[05:47] <wisie> brb guys.
[05:47] <Jivenix> how do i make ndiswrapper start up when ubuntu starts
[05:47] <redblade> /etc/apache2
[05:47] <Madpilot> TestDummy: XFCE?
[05:47] <fangorious> TestDummy: xfce should be decent if memory is low
[05:47] <concept10> wastrel, im going to try it. thanks
[05:47] <redblade> as well as etc/apache
[05:47] <TestDummy> Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
[05:47] <_jason> TestDummy: try xubuntu and if it won't handle it go with one of the boxes like fluxbox
[05:47] <TestDummy> It has 256MB in it.
[05:47] <TestDummy> But the processor is just bleh..
[05:48] <fangorious> redblade: which one is running and listening on port 80?
[05:48] <corvax> what speed celeron
[05:48] <TestDummy> 400MHz, I can feel the burn.
[05:48] <Swif> Jason do I replace all this? deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted
[05:48] <Swif> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[05:48] <Swif> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty main restricted
[05:48] <redblade> ummm.
[05:48] <Jivenix> how do i make ndiswrapper start up when ubuntu starts
[05:48] <Swif> at the top
[05:48] <_jason> Swif: ok, hold on you are using warty?
[05:48] <corvax> dud i was runing a terminal server from a p2 450
[05:48] <redblade> 2 I think
[05:48] <fangorious> TestDummy: I'd go with xfce. some people prefer fluxbox or blackbox
[05:48] <Swif> yup
[05:48] <Jivenix> !startup
[05:48] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[05:48] <corvax> with 384 mb
[05:48] <TestDummy> Yeah, that's what I was thinking, although I haven't messed with it much lately.
[05:48] <_jason> Swif: yes you can replace everything, pastebin when you are done so that I can look it over if you want
[05:48] <Swif> thanx Jason 8-)
[05:48] <redblade> yeah I'm fairly certain it's 1
[05:48] <TestDummy> Guess it's worth a shot, Gnome is just too laggy on it.
[05:48] <fangorious> redblade: have you checked the httpd.conf in /etc/apache2 for the doc root setting?
[05:48] <redblade> sorry 2
[05:48] <corvax> edubuntu
[05:49] <wastrel> i used to really like windowmaker
[05:49] <redblade> I thought that was the one I haad open
[05:49] <_jason> redblade: are you sure apache1 isn't the one serving up the page maybe?
[05:49] <redblade> this is confusing
[05:49] <TestDummy> Anyways, yeah. Just needed a quick consensus, seeing how Gnome just isn't working out.
[05:49] <TestDummy> Thanks. :P
[05:49] <redblade> no it's not apache 1, becaus eI installed this of a cd and it says it is meant to have a page with a message
[05:50] <fangorious> redblade: i may have missed it, but all I've seen you talk about editing is the index.html page.
[05:50] <newbuntie> are there any good download managers in the repos?
[05:50] <_jason> redblade: oh, you didn't use apache from the repositories?
[05:50] <redblade> no
[05:50] <concept10> wastrel, i wonder what the 'i2c' module is for
[05:50] <redblade> I have apache 2.2.0
[05:50] <newbuntie> or any download managers for linux at all?
[05:50] <Swif> Jason were to upload it?
[05:50] <_jason> redblade: check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled to see what those files say
[05:50] <_jason> Swif: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:50] <Knowledge_> anyone with an answer... let's say I have 2 USB Mice plugged into my computer...what command (linux) would I use to disable one of them so the other one would only work?
[05:50] <Swif> can I send you in pm?
[05:51] <Swif> o
[05:51] <wastrel> concept10:  i believe it's a usb mouse thingy
[05:51] <redblade> DocumentRoot /var/www/, _jason
[05:51] <newbuntie> sociopath, no download managers for linux? I need something that would split the download into multiple sessions
[05:51] <tomkelleher> hey guys, quick question. If I'm using a AMD Turion 64 procesor should I use the x86,  or 64-bit version of Ubuntu
[05:51] <wastrel> concept10:  no i'm wrong, it's a lmsensors thing
[05:52] <concept10> wastrel, oh, I know its some type of communications protocol for chips, cant remember, anyways, thats the only difference
[05:52] <newbuntie> sry sociopath, nick completions is on
[05:52] <morphix> why have 2 mice?
[05:52] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: you can use either one
[05:52] <fangorious> well, my battery is about to die.
[05:52] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: keep in mind that some software is only available as a 32-bit binary and as such won't work in a 64-bit system without some trickery
[05:52] <corvax> yeah my batt was low had to plug in
[05:53] <tomkelleher> agrajag: would I get better profromance from the 64-bit? if so will it be better to just go with the 64 because of the proformace and worrie about the apps later or use the 32?
[05:53] <redblade> _jason? isn't that where it's meant to be?
[05:53] <newbuntie> let me try again, anyone know anything about download managers for linux, that could split a single download into multiple downloads using seperate connections?
[05:53] <Swif> Jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8832
[05:53] <wastrel> newbuntie:  gnutella?
[05:53] <_jason> redblade: yes, make a new file called testing.html in /var/www, and see if localhost/testing.html shows up in your browser
[05:53] <concept10> wastrel, gangsta: I wonder do they have ATI prop drivers that work with the older chipsets
[05:54] <newbuntie> wastrel: isn't that p2p? I'm talking about something that would work with firefox, click on a link and it takes over the download
[05:54] <_jason> Swif: you said warty right?
[05:54] <wastrel> concept10:  i dunno - i just use the provided stuff ... got both cards working
[05:54] <Swif> ya
[05:54] <_jason> Swif: you know there have been two versions since then?
[05:54] <Swif> should I put the top back in?
[05:54] <gangsta> concept10: i dont know but i know that my card is supported
[05:54] <wastrel> newbuntie:  you're multiplexing separate network connections?
[05:54] <Swif> I have backup lol
[05:54] <dooglus> newbuntie: why would you want to do such a thing?
[05:55] <Knowledge_> Anyone konw my problem?
[05:55] <Snake__> Hey guys, is flight 4 out yet?
[05:55] <tomkelleher> yep
[05:55] <Snake__> tomkelleher: to me?
[05:55] <tomkelleher> yea
[05:55] <Snake__> alrighjt
[05:55] <Snake__> thanks
[05:55] <tomkelleher> np
[05:55] <concept10> wastrel, yeah, the provided stuff worked for me at first (since Warty) did you just do a reconfigure to get back on DRI?
[05:56] <wastrel> concept10:  i took away my xorg.conf and used d-r x-x...
[05:56] <redblade> _jason, it doesn't work
[05:56] <gangsta> damn ati drivers
[05:56] <_jason> Swif: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8833
[05:56] <tomkelleher> does anybody know if I will get the proper resolution with my vid card? its the ati radeon xpress 200m running at 1280 by 800, widescreen
[05:56] <redblade> I need to find out where http://localhost is loading from
[05:56] <newbuntie> wastrel, dooglus: it speeds up downloads, I have 4mbit broadband but often get 150 kB from servers, splitting into multiple connections increases it to the full 500kB
[05:56] <concept10> wastrel, you renamed or deleted the conf?
[05:57] <unix_infidel> hey guys, this line in sudoers isnt working - my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[05:57] <_jason> redblade: I don't know then, I'd suggest you use the one from the repositories.  grep for the phrase that shows up on that page
[05:57] <redblade> okay
[05:57] <primoturbo> Is there anyway to mask the hostname? for example my current one is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:57] <primoturbo> on freenode
[05:57] <concept10> I dont understand this question in d-r-x-x: Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[05:57] <jdumont> DARNIT... I forgot to write down the command to install edubuntu... sudo apt -- get edubuntu-desktop?  was that it?
[05:57] <redblade> what is the syntax for grep?
[05:57] <unix_infidel> anyone have any ideas, i mean i have all the correct syntax and i used visudo proper and right....but i'm still prompted for a password.
[05:57] <redblade> sudo grep "It works!"
 Why does php5 depend on apache2-mpm-prefork? Does that mean that php5 is compiled with non-threading in mind? :/
[06:00] <concept10> gangsta, did you see this: Note that support for DRI must also exist in the
[06:00] <concept10>   kernel, the video card, and the installed version of the Mesa libraries
[06:00] <concept10>   for hardware-accelerated 3D operations using DRI to work.  Otherwise,
[06:00] <concept10>   the server falls back to software rendering.
[06:00] <jdumont> doh! now my stylus is gone
[06:00] <concept10> whoops
[06:00] <Swif> Jason when I saved a backup I changed the location
[06:00] <Swif> and took out a .
[06:00] <Swif> were I save it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.8.5    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met.
[06:01] <SebastianM> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[06:01] <SebastianM> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:01] <SebastianM> I dont get it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> I got all those :S
[06:01] <Madpilot> SebastianM: what're you trying to do?
[06:01] <wastrel> SebastianM:  you need the dev packages
[06:01] <SebastianM> hmm..
[06:01] <Swif> Jason how to save it?
[06:01] <SebastianM> trying to install air snort 8-)...
[06:01] <unix_infidel> ok fine a better question, for some reason my cpufreqd daemon keeps on switching governors on its own like a bloody fool.
[06:01] <unix_infidel> any ubuntu reason for that/
[06:01] <Swif> I dont even see save on top menu
[06:01] <corvax> lmao swif
[06:02] <corvax> what are you in vi?
[06:02] <corvax> nano?
[06:02] <unix_infidel> i've tried setting proper schemes in kcontrol, i'd like to knnow how to disable them, but in the end i'd like to use the scripts i have setup on startup.
[06:02] <SebastianM> cd ..
[06:02] <SebastianM> oops
[06:02] <redblade> _jason, thanks for your time, I'm going to stick at this and see if I can't solve it
[06:02] <Madpilot> SebastianM: airsnort is in the Universe repo - just get it from there, Synaptic or apt-get will handle the depends
[06:02] <Swif> /root/sourceslisttest(modified)-gedit
[06:03] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  show me the line in your sudoers file
[06:03] <SebastianM> Madpilot, I've read a million explainations, but I still don't get the synaptic/atp-thing
[06:03] <SebastianM> I get the search-function
[06:03] <SebastianM> but not how you add your own links, or what you should call it
[06:03] <unix_infidel> my_username ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[06:03] <unix_infidel> wastrel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[06:03] <Swif> save in file system>'
[06:04] <Swif> sources.list
[06:04] <Swif> as*
[06:04] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  in a terminal window type sudo apt-get install airsnort
[06:04] <Swif> yes right>
[06:04] <SebastianM> ah!
[06:04] <Swif> ?
[06:04] <Madpilot> SebastianM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:04] <IdleOne> and read that howto
[06:05] <Madpilot> SebastianM: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:05] <Swif> thats correct?
[06:05] <Swif> im in warthog
[06:05] <lamb> can anyone recommend fonts that look like Mac OS ones??
[06:05] <corvax> id get breezy if ya can
[06:06] <corvax> dapper will be out soon
[06:06] <cramop> hi, I know this may not be the exact place to ask but, I am planning to buy a mini dv camcorder with firewire output. Will I be abe to copy the whole movie as a file? or will I have to copy it in analog mode?
[06:06] <SebastianM> Madpilot, it says: "E: Couldn't find airsnort package" (translated from swedish)
[06:07] <IdleOne> SebastianM: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:07] <IdleOne> read that
[06:07] <IdleOne> and add the repos
[06:07] <Swif> when I did the apt-get update I got an error is this because I needed to create a new sources.list save it in file system because im in warthog ubuntu? (gedit:4689): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:07] <Swif> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:07] <Swif> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/root/.gnome2/gedit-metadata.xml"
[06:07] <SebastianM> sounds good, sounds good
[06:07] <Swif> that was at the bottom
[06:07] <_jason> Swif: what command caused that?  and please don't paste here
[06:07] <Swif> see I turned on that universe thing and I want to install kde on ubuntu
[06:08] <Swif> sorry
[06:08] <corvax> its in the univers
[06:08] <Jivenix> is there a quick way to tile the windows on the desktop
[06:08] <Swif> apt-get update did
[06:08] <concept10> How do I restart X? will ctrl-alt-backspace do it?
[06:08] <Madpilot> SebastianM: you don't have Universe enabled, then
[06:08] <martman> i reconfigured the xorg package so i could run at higer resoltuons. i see the changes in my config file but im still at 1024 with no higher choices in the display system settings window
[06:08] <Swif> sudo apt-get update*
[06:08] <corvax> airsonort is in universe
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Jivenix,  not in KDE or gnome - that ive seen.. sadly.
[06:08] <martman> anyone know how i can get something higher?
[06:08] <Jivenix> :\
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Jivenix,  some other window managers have that feature
[06:08] <Madpilot> SebastianM: nevermind, IdleOne beat me to it! :P
[06:08] <wastrel> concept10:  yes
[06:08] <Jivenix> maybe i will write it
[06:08] <_jason> Swif: you got gedit warning with apt-get update?  can you pastebin what your /etc/apt/sources.list looks like now?
[06:08] <SebastianM> :D
[06:08] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: oh, the 64-bit version's a bit faster, go with that if you don't mind jumping through hoops to get stuff like Flash working
[06:09] <SebastianM> it's amazing how helpful everyone is...
[06:09] <SebastianM> =)
[06:09] <elkbuntu> SebastianM, it's called cooperation :)
[06:09] <`JD> Okay, I tried to fix the res of unbuntu but in ended up not working at. I have to get it back to the settings it came with. I guy was showing me how and it had somehitng to do with the xorg.conf file but I got my internet cut off. Help me!
[06:09] <tomkelleher> Agrajag: how much of a hoop?
[06:09] <IdleOne> ubuntulog: for the ppl by the ppl ()
[06:09] <IdleOne> oops
[06:09] <SebastianM> elkbuntu :D
[06:09] <unix_infidel> anyone with ideas about the sudo issue?
[06:09] <Jivenix> is there a way to send an instant message to someone who is ssh'd in
[06:09] <wastrel> `JD:  did you save a copy of your original working xorg.conf?
[06:10] <Agrajag> tomkelleher: I ended up installing a second copy of ubuntu in a chroot so I could run a 32-bit version of firefox
[06:10] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  sorry that looks like good syntax to me... :]
[06:10] <elkbuntu> tomkelleher, one that is on fire with swirling sharks in pools on the other side :)
[06:10] <digitaljames> how do I test my sound card hardware. I'm on 5.04
[06:10] <unix_infidel> wastrel: great so i've done everything right, its just working.
[06:10] <primoturbo> hey guys what does umask=0222 in fstab mean?
[06:10] <`JD> Its on the paste.unbuntu.nl.org me thinks
[06:11] <AntMaz> ok this is pissing me off i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:11] <primoturbo> can u give me a line for fstab that will mount hda1 under a ntfs file system and only read access (don't want to mess up my windows xp)
[06:11] <_jason> primoturbo: it means subtract 222 from 777 and get 555, so you end up with 555 permissions
[06:11] <primoturbo> is it read only?
[06:11] <primoturbo> /dev/hda1 	/mnt/Windows	ntfs umask=0222 	0 	0
[06:11] <AntMaz> anyone know what to do
[06:11] <primoturbo> will that give me read only access?
[06:12] <_jason> primoturbo: yes
[06:12] <Swif> Jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8834
[06:12] <primoturbo> thank you
[06:12] <`JD> but I cant find it. Its unedr my name JD on pastebin >:(
[06:12] <Swif> I changed the download location and the name I need to know how its saved
[06:12] <AntMaz> even when i tried to update lillypond it messed up
[06:12] <AntMaz> ok this is pissing me off i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:12] <Swif> I cahnged it back to sources.list and saved it on filesystem
[06:12] <Swif> is that correct or no?
[06:12] <jdumont> is there an edubuntu wiki or something else?  everyones sleeping in the #edubuntu channel.
[06:13] <`JD> I found the original. What do I do with it?
[06:13] <whiter> primoturbo, i would just back up then format to ext3
[06:13] <whiter> cause ntfs is read only
[06:13] <wisie> is the bot up, I got a great little link off him before but I lost it
[06:13] <wastrel> `JD:  stick it in a file and copy it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <whiter> not sure why...
[06:13] <_jason> Swif: I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.  You should just do 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and then delete everything in there.  Then copy and paste the new one there.  Then press save and then exit.
[06:13] <IdleOne> +
[06:13] <IdleOne> *+-++++++++++
[06:13] <Madpilot> wisie: the bot's running - what was the link on
[06:13] <Madpilot> ?
[06:13] <`JD> Where would the config file be on the HD?
[06:13] <corvax> umask sets the file mode creation mask of the invoking process to the given mode. You can specify the mode in any of the formats recognized by chmod; see chmod for more information.
[06:13] <Jivenix> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <primoturbo> I need my xp for certain things like CS:S too slow under wine
[06:14] <IdleOne> ++++/mm=-pp00*--******************************** .[] [
[06:14] <AntMaz> ubutu: tell antmaz about lilypond
[06:14] <primoturbo> quick question does mnt folder exist or did I just make it?
[06:14] <wisie> Madpilot: It was something to do with universals and I also got a great little guide on setting up apache and other things, not sure if it was from here though
[06:14] <IdleOne> p=pp] ] [p] [;[pp]
[06:14] <IdleOne> ''
[06:14] <AntMaz> didnt work
[06:14] <IdleOne> '
[06:14] <AntMaz> anyone know about this error
[06:14] <primoturbo> by default does /mnt/ exist or did I make it?
[06:14] <AntMaz> : /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> !lilypond
[06:15] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <`JD> Where is xorg.conf on the Hard drive?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> wtf is Lilypond? thats twice today ive seen it mentioned.
[06:15] <wastrel> `JD:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <primoturbo> is it safe to delete /mnt/ folder?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> `JD,  /etc/X11/
[06:15] <Madpilot> !tell wisie about lamp
[06:15] <primoturbo> I just realized I want windows mount in media
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> `JD,  BACK IT up  - befor ya edit it.
[06:15] <wisie> thanks madpilot, looks about right
[06:15] <SebastianM> Madpilot, elkbuntu, IdleOne: thanks! air snort works now! :D
[06:15] <primoturbo> in /media/Windows
[06:16] <Madpilot> wisie: as for the others - not sure what you mean by "universals"
[06:16] <primoturbo> is it okay to delete /mnt/Windows and /mnt/ nothing in there
[06:16] <Bung> i just ran this, $ sudo apt-get install azureus, and it says its not available...
[06:16] <primoturbo> I have unmounted Windows ofcourse
[06:16] <Madpilot> !azureus
[06:16] <ubotu> hmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:16] <`JD> I'm on XP at the moment. How could I copy and paste the original staying on xp right now?
[06:16] <Madpilot> Bung: see the bot above ^^^
[06:16] <Bung> thanks
[06:16] <AntMaz> anyone know about lilypond
[06:16] <wisie> !torrentflux
[06:16] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wisie
[06:16] <wisie> damn
[06:17] <Swif> Jason:          http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8835
[06:17] <Swif> should I add the top like that or no?
[06:17] <IdleOne> SebastianM:  yw
[06:17] <SebastianM> or at least, it's installed =)
[06:17] <Swif> I got back to it lol
[06:17] <_jason> Swif: do you use the cdrom?
[06:17] <Swif> yes
[06:17] <AntMaz> i have no idea what i did but recently no matter what pakage i try to install i always have a lilypond error
[06:18] <_jason> Swif: then just delete lines 4 and 5.  Those are in there
[06:18] <Swif> I have a dvdrewriter dual layer
[06:18] <`JD> Where?!
[06:18] <_jason> Swif: I mean, do you use the ubuntu cd as a repository?
[06:18] <unix_infidel> lol, seriously so no one can fix sudoers....
[06:18] <unix_infidel> superman ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set -f
[06:18] <unix_infidel> that's the line i currently have.
[06:18] <AntMaz> _jason: do you know anything about this lilypond thing
[06:18] <tim_> when i try to compile this kernel it errors out, how to i find out where it is broke
[06:19] <`JD> I know its /etc/X11 but how can i access it from my other boot, WinXP?
[06:19] <_jason> unix_infidel: you probably need to logout and back in or something if that's right and you can't figure out why it doesn't work
[06:19] <_jason> AntMaz: nope
[06:19] <corvax> if your gonna use warty  you might want to add backports
[06:19] <Swif> Jason I dont understand repository lol
[06:19] <Swif> I have ubuntu on vmware in xp pro
[06:19] <_jason> Swif: do you use ubuntu with the ubuntu cd rom in the cd to install stuff?
[06:19] <Swif> I did
[06:19] <corvax> repository  is a central location where all applications called packages are kept
[06:19] <corvax> and are dowloaded from
[06:19] <AntMaz> Anyone know About installing packages and always getting an error about lilypond
[06:20] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i don't know if you specify command flags in sudoers
[06:20] <Swif> I duddo if it pulls from the cd though
[06:20] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  try removing the -f
[06:20] <Swif> dunno*
[06:20] <corvax> in simplified terms
[06:20] <unix_infidel> _jason: i've logged out a couple times and shutdown and wha tnot.
[06:20] <unix_infidel> wastrel: i've tried it with and without mate.
[06:20] <Swif> its basicly default
[06:20] <_jason> Swif: if you use it, leave line1.  If you don't use it, delete it
[06:20] <Swif> besides me turning on universe thing
[06:20] <primoturbo> Quick question where is the grub file located so I can change the boot wait time
[06:20] <corvax> swif you have broadband?
[06:20] <Swif> if I dunno leave it? lol
[06:20] <_jason> Swif: let me go check if kubuntu-desktop existed in warty
[06:20] <Swif> cant hurt right
[06:21] <`JD> can anyone help I'm kinda in  ahurry
[06:21] <corvax> is this a desktop?
[06:21] <martman> i reconfigured xorg so i could try and get some higher resoltuons, i can see the chnages in the config file to but im still running at 1024 and i dont have any higher choices in display system settings
[06:21] <Swif> ok thanx Jason 8-)
[06:21] <martman> i restart after too
[06:21] <_jason> Swif: nope, no kubuntu-desktop in warty
[06:21] <corvax> if its a desktop on broadband id comment out the cd
[06:21] <Swif> so how I install kde?
[06:21] <_jason> Swif: is upgrading not feasible?
[06:21] <Swif> do I need to download somethin?
[06:21] <primoturbo> Guys where is the grub configuration file located, I need to edit the wait time before boot from 10 seconds to like 5
[06:21] <Swif> upgrading to??
[06:22] <_jason> Swif: hoary and then breezy
[06:22] <primoturbo> I've done it a million times just dont recall the file name or location
[06:22] <Swif> getting seperate kubuntu?
[06:22] <crouton> holy smokes, 12 hours of work has come to fruition.
[06:22] <tim_> is there a site that has kernel how to's
[06:22] <corvax> jason lol he might as well redownload and iso
[06:22] <Swif> do I just download seperate versions?
[06:22] <`JD> God dammit
[06:22] <Swif> on xp?
[06:22] <crouton> tim_: www.tldp.org ?
[06:22] <corvax> too much work for someone so new
[06:22] <_jason> Swif: you can just use apt-get to update
[06:22] <Swif> or can I do it in ubuntu
[06:22] <Swif> apt-get hoary?
[06:23] <skon> If a compiler tells me I need to have the libglade-2.0 libraries, what specifically should I install on my system? They'res a ton of glade stuff in the apt-cache...
[06:23] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i have this line in my /etc/sudoers & can run  sudo ls  without a password:   wastrel ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/ls
[06:23] <_jason> anyone know of issues with a direct warty > breezy upgrade?
[06:23] <wastrel> `JD:  what's the problem?
[06:23] <crouton> _jason: There were a couple threads on the forum back when the switchover occurred
[06:23] <unix_infidel> wastrel: b/c you have permissions on ls you fool.
[06:23] <unix_infidel> you could run it even if you didnt.
[06:23] <OmegaAlpha> anyone know how to turn direct rendering on a graphics card?
[06:23] <corvax> i hadi had some issues going from hoary to breezy
[06:24] <corvax> not too bad though
[06:24] <_jason> Swif: ok well do this first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes, and then after that is done... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:24] <Swif> apt-get hoary?? is that correct
[06:24] <skon> swif - sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:24] <`JD> Wastrel: I wish to access the xorg.conf file right now. I'm currently booted in WindowsXP. I need to change the file back to its original state.
[06:24] <OmegaAlpha> swif do a search for it 'apt-cache search hoary'
[06:24] <iceman> Shoot I need one good Linux 3d FPS game ...
[06:24] <corvax>  you have to  do dist upgrade
[06:24] <corvax> after you change your sources
[06:24] <wastrel> `JD: sorry i don't know anything about windows :/
[06:24] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  what command do you suggest i use to test
[06:25] <`JD> I just want to access the file.
[06:25] <skon> If a compiler tells me I need to have the libglade-2.0 libraries, what specifically should I install on my system? They'res a ton of glade stuff in the apt-cache...
[06:25] <goof> i've got an odd problem...if my motherboard's network support is enabled, my Xwindows will not start properly. However, if it is disabled, starts fine completely. (the same result with network enabled and no cable plugged in)
[06:25] <`JD> I need to get to it.
[06:25] <tomkelleher> ok guys problem, I just tried to install breezy on my laptop and it didn't work
[06:25] <wastrel> `JD:  i don't think windows xp can access linux drives
[06:25] <mikeo1> my Ywindows doesnt work
[06:25] <mikeo1> i think its broken
[06:25] <damneinstein> tomkelleher what is the problem you are having?
[06:25] <yuri_> hi guys, I need some advice. can someone suggest a good cd-ripping program that will let me use lame 3.9. I'm looking for something like "Exact Audio Copy" on win.
[06:25] <mikeo1> there are ext3 drivers
[06:25] <corvax> define didnt work
[06:25] <mikeo1> for windows
[06:25] <newbuntie> unix_infidel: he could run ls but it wouldn't list directories he doesn't have read permissions on, right?
[06:25] <jdumont> as i said earlier... i did the sudo apt-get edubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get edubuntu-server.  how do i start the terminal server?  thanks and goodnight.
[06:25] <_jason> Swif: that will take a ``while''
[06:26] <corvax> mike ext2 yes
[06:26] <`JD> Then how could I get it back to its orignial state. ubuntu dosent even fully work now. It just goes strait to a dos looking terminal. Thats it.
[06:26] <unix_infidel> newbuntie: if he didnt have read permissions on them sure.
[06:26] <corvax> no ext3 that i know of
[06:26] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: I put the CD in the drive, booted up and hit enter to begin install and everything seemed to just stop
[06:26] <crouton> goof: what mobo?
[06:26] <jdumont> cuz even though i did sudo apt-get edubuntu-server... everything looks the same.
[06:26] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: did you check the integrity of the cd-rom?
[06:26] <wastrel> `JD:  you can make the changes from the terminal
[06:26] <mikeo1> http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html :p
[06:26] <mikeo1> that one does ext2 and 3 i think
[06:26] <Madpilot> yuri_: k3b & gnomebaker both do CD duplicating
[06:26] <goof> crouton: its an ASUS P5GLPL--Intel P4 chipset
[06:26] <wastrel> `JD:  you don't have another computer?
[06:27] <crouton> tomkelleher: You wouldn't happen to have an ASUS mobo, would you?
[06:27] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: it should work, it's a pre made CD I had sent to me
[06:27] <yuri_> k3b?
[06:27] <Swif> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade??
[06:27] <Madpilot> !info k3b
[06:27] <ubotu> k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB
[06:27] <wastrel> `JD:  what did you use to change the xorg.conf file originally?
[06:27] <Swif> I can do that now?
[06:27] <`JD> Wastrel: Its on this computer.
[06:27] <Swif> lol
[06:27] <tomkelleher> crouton: um I dont think so, I dont even know what it is
[06:27] <crouton> goof: can you still use the virtual terminals if the network is enabled, cable is in, and you load X?
[06:27] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: it's always better to check integrity anyhow
[06:27] <_jason> Swif: did you read those links?
[06:27] <goof> crouton: I have a nVidia 6600 PCI Express GFX card, but the change that causes the XWindows problem is definitely the onboard LAN
[06:27] <corvax> tom not really
[06:27] <Madpilot> Swif: if you read the two wiki URLs you were given, they'll explain the upgrading process...
[06:27] <Swif> I have them saved
[06:27] <`JD> Wastrel: I was on ubuntu, changing the resolution settings. It screwed up.
[06:27] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: and how should I do that
[06:27] <Swif> ok
[06:28] <IdleOne> `JD:  at the promtp try locate filename
[06:28] <_jason> Swif: they only work if you read them :)
[06:28] <goof> crouton: no, it does not work, if cable is in or out
[06:28] <`JD> I have found it.
[06:28] <`JD> I want to replace it.
[06:28] <IdleOne> ok sudo nano filename
[06:28] <crouton> goof: OK. You disable the onboard NIC via BIOS?
[06:28] <Swif> >_< I got to read ok lol
[06:28] <goof> crouton: yes exactly
[06:28] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: reboot your computer with the cd-rom in the drive and type "linux mediacheck"
[06:28] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  it works even when i don't have permission to run the executable
[06:28] <`JD> I want to paste the orginal code for the config file.
[06:28] <damneinstein> tomkelleher: then follow the prompt
[06:28] <Swif> I saved both on notepad on desktop with new code lol 8-)
[06:28] <yuri_> Madpilot: does k3b support mp3 encoding?
[06:29] <corvax> they windows users HATE reading
[06:29] <corvax> lol
[06:29] <tomkelleher> ok
[06:29] <wastrel> `JD:  what did you use?  there may ahve been an automatic backup made
[06:29] <Madpilot> yuri_: I think it can, yeah. I never use mp3 myself
[06:29] <jdumont> HAR! Back to the wiki !  grumblegrumblegrumble
[06:29] <`JD> I used terminal.
[06:29] <corvax> they are taught to just click next nextnext
[06:29] <h0me5k1n> lol corvax
[06:29] <Madpilot> yuri_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[06:29] <corvax> no matter what it says
[06:29] <yuri_> thanks!
[06:29] <wastrel> `JD:  do you know what command you used?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> wastrel: dont have permissions to run ls?
[06:29] <corvax> linux foreces you to learn
[06:29] <corvax> forces even
[06:29] <unix_infidel> you mean you changed the perms on the ls?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> LOL
[06:30] <`JD> The one to open xorg.conf
[06:30] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  sudo cp /bin/ls /bin/lsls; sudo chmod 700 /bin/lsls
[06:30] <unix_infidel> wastrel: that's all fine and well...i can get it to work...
[06:30] <`JD> I opened up xprg.conf > pasted the new stuff I wanted > Saved it > Rebooted and it died.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> but for some reason i cant get it to work without it prompting me for a password.
[06:30] <unix_infidel> and i have the NOPASSWD: tag enabled.
[06:31] <unix_infidel> erm, option*
[06:31] <Swif> I replaced it and its messed up :|
[06:31] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  wastrel ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/lsls
[06:31] <wastrel>    works for me :]   sorry i dunno otherwise...
[06:31] <Swif> im putting the original back
[06:31] <Swif> (0_o) lol
[06:32] <corvax> swif you have a broadband connection?
[06:32] <goof> crouton?
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  i think the parser reads the lines in the order they appear in the file
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  maybe put the NOPASSWD line at the bottom?
[06:32] <unix_infidel> wastrel: put it at the BOTTOM?
[06:32] <Swif> yes
[06:32] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  yes that way it won't get overridden by later rules?
[06:33] <Swif> whats the path again??
[06:33] <corvax> just download either breezy (stable)  or dapper flight release4 (unstable)
[06:33] <wastrel> unix_infidel:  just brainstorming
[06:33] <corvax> and install them
[06:33] <Madpilot> Swif: path to what?
[06:33] <Swif> sources.list
[06:33] <Swif> ?
[06:33] <corvax> and you will be better off
[06:33] <`JD> Ah jeez, Does anyone know how to do this or must I reinstall ubuntu?
[06:33] <Swif> I have warthog ubuntu
[06:33] <hedjak> NOPASSWD goes on the particular line.  And you can see what sudo will permit with sudo -l
[06:33] <Madpilot> Swif: etc/apt/sources.list - but this should be in those howto pages you've been given...
[06:33] <corvax> sources .list is  etc/apt
[06:33] <unix_infidel> wastrel: ahhh, great.
[06:34] <unix_infidel> you were right, it must've gotten overwriddedn by some other line in sudoers.
[06:34] <wastrel> rawk
[06:34] <IdleOne> hehe
[06:35] <tomkelleher> damneinstien: yea didnt work
[06:35] <corvax> hehe
[06:35] <concept10> gangsta, have you tried this: grep "Direct rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:35] <wastrel> `JD:  yes i think you're going to need to recreate the file from the original copy on pastebin
[06:35] <concept10> gangsta, it gives me enabled
[06:36] <tomkelleher> damneinstein: yea didnt work
[06:36] <wastrel> `JD:  hmm do you have a floppy drive & a floppy disk?
[06:36] <`JD> wastrel: I know! But how?!
[06:36] <`JD> I dont have a floppy drive :\