[09:02] <adaptr> kmu: boot livecd, run memtest86 for a few hours
[09:02] <blueprints88888> Big files VMware Server
[09:02] <mwe> ucordes_: try that one. again it depends on your definition of good
[09:02] <therapy> J ubuntu-nl
[09:03] <jin> adaptr, what can I do to lower the load average?
[09:03] <xptweakerntn> theearp:yes, i am, but i think since it is formatted as vfat it will cause some trouble
[09:03] <ucordes_> fluvvell: flightgear does no work for me. my apt-get downloads and it installs it in 3 seconds and there are only docs after the install
[09:03] <kmu> adaptr: no, i am not :( ok, run memtest86 with the new ram, correct?
[09:03] <klaarn> i'm trying to install from the desktop cd, and i can't read anything once the installer loads (safe, normal, or manually specified resolution).  this is all i see.  https://webspace.utexas.edu/cag625/install.jpg
[09:03] <ET-Ben> kitche: Any ideas?
[09:03] <konam> Flannel i ask and no one answer....
[09:04] <ucordes_> fluvvell: i allready tried reinstalling several times, also installed the deb from debian packages
[09:04] <kmu> adaptr: of course. thanks, i'll trf
[09:04] <mwe> ucordes_: flightgear is pretty nice, though
[09:04] <adaptr> kmu: I thought you said you *added* ram ? run it with both
[09:04] <kmu> adaptr: try
[09:04] <kitche> ET-Ben: not really well besides cat a file to /dev/dsp
[09:04] <ShadowX> ok, if I didnt have a girlfriend that I plan to propose to, I would say I am in love with ubuntu!!
[09:04] <xptweakerntn> what should the umask be and which column is it under?
[09:04] <shutterbc> Yikes -- I just saw jin's load avg... are you swapping a lot to disk?
[09:04] <ucordes_> fluvvell: you know anything i could try to get it working?
[09:04] <CrypTom> hi, is there a way to get a more recent kernel than 2.6.17 for edgy?
[09:04] <adaptr> jin: what I said - run top and dstat in separate consoles while doing what you normally do
[09:05] <ET-Ben> Kitche: cat?
[09:05] <xptweakerntn> theearp:which column is the umask under? and what should it be?
[09:05] <jin> shutterbc, don't think so, I have swap turned off!
[09:05] <jin> :D
[09:05] <william> hello all
[09:05] <adaptr> ET-Ben: yeah, it's like dog only less
[09:05] <ET-Ben> adaptr: Nice
[09:05] <kmu> adaptr: i did add it, but then took it back out, because it was freezing. i'll give it a shot. thanks!
[09:05] <adaptr> ET-Ben: ..while less is like more only more so; for the best you get the most
[09:06] <anthony_>  I'm trying to scan my shared filestore partition using a mounted Sophos boot disk image file with qemu, but it keeps saying that it "cannot open the drive for direct access".  I think this is because I have it mounted in my home dir.  How can I unmount it and check?
[09:06] <kitche> ET-Ben: try cat <file> > /dev/dsp
[09:06] <shutterbc> jin: that's not necessarily a great thing either, as the OS may have to work hard to keep blocks of memory free
[09:06] <mwe> ucordes_: sudo apt-get install flightgear work here. odd
[09:06] <adaptr> kmu: then I'd test it in all 4 possible combinations
[09:06] <adaptr> jin: there you go then - you need swap
[09:06] <mwe> ET-Ben: turn down the volume, thouth ;)
[09:06] <ShadowX> gecko: you here?
[09:06] <adaptr> jin: should've said that earlier, I'd have given you your answer without any further info
[09:06] <kmu> adaptr: alright, i will
[09:06] <jin> shutterbc, I think I can work with swap off with 2gb of ram
[09:06] <ucordes_> mwe: i apt-get --purge removed the fgfs-base package and now reinstall both packages. i hope this will work
[09:06] <xptweakerntn> theearp: 0022
[09:06] <shutterbc> jin: the folks here are right -- there may be some blocking I/O going on.  Like CDROM, audio, or whatever
[09:07] <Spee_Der> Howdy folks.
[09:07] <ET-Ben> mwe: turn it down?
[09:07] <klaarn> is there another channel that might deal more specifically with boot and install issues?  i don't want rudely keep nagging in here...
[09:07] <edion> how do i swith between x and a clean termial in ubuntu
[09:07] <gecko> yea im here shadowx
[09:07] <mwe> ET-Ben: make sure it's not too loud
[09:07] <gecko> im online
[09:07] <adaptr> jin: what you think doesn't factor into it - run top and dstat and *look* at what is happening
[09:07] <ShadowX> I IMed you on AIM
[09:07] <kitche> ET-Ben: by cating a file you should get a lot of garbage coming out of your speakers if you do have sound
[09:07] <ShadowX> no response lol
[09:07] <gecko> didnt get teh message
[09:07] <Flannel> edion: ctrl-alt-f# (#: 1-6 for terminal, 7 for X again)
[09:07] <kitche> ET-Ben: to stop it you can ctrl-c
[09:07] <ShadowX> hrmm
[09:07] <gecko> try again!
[09:07] <gecko> lol
[09:07] <Dreamglider_> what version of ubuntu do i need for my dell inspiron with intel centrino duo
[09:07] <nass> hello, I need help restoring grub on my hard drive... all I tried miserably failed. Someone ?
[09:07] <ET-Ben> kitche: I got nothing
[09:07] <ShadowX> gecko: just sent it again
[09:08] <adaptr> nass: are you running ubuntu now ?
[09:08] <edion> how do i swith between x and a clean termial in ubuntu
[09:08] <adaptr> edion: ctrl-alt-F1
[09:08] <edion> sorry for the duoble
[09:08] <kitche> ET-Ben: hmm then something might be using your sound like esd or artsd
[09:08] <mwe> edion: ctrl-alt-f1 and ctrl-alt-f8 to get back
[09:08] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, why don't you try out a liveCD of Dapper or Edgy and see how it goes?  I'm using a Dell D620 on Edgy
[09:08] <nass> no, i'm on an other computer. the one broken is running ubuntu dapper live cd right now
[09:08] <jin> adaptr, I did, I see a few vlc instances, java, xorg, sc and firefox with some sleeping processes
[09:08] <adaptr> mwe: and ctrl-alt f*7* to get back.. dude!
[09:08] <ET-Ben> kitche: guessing there is a way to check that?
[09:08] <adaptr> jin: do you actually know what to look at in top ?
[09:09] <kitche> ET-Ben: yeah look at top or ps aux and see if esd is running if your on gnome
[09:09] <mwe> adaptr: right ;)
[09:09] <Dreamglider_> the one i have 6.10 i386 but it hangs when i try to boot it, i never get to the live thing to install ubuntu
[09:09] <jin> adaptr, the % of the cpu a process is using?
[09:09] <adaptr> jin: no, that's totally unimportant
[09:10] <matteo> where can I get ubuntu's kernel patches?
[09:10] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i have had ubuntu on my old laptop, i know what i want but now i have a new pc and the cd i have hangs
[09:10] <jin> adaptr, what do I need to know?
[09:10] <nixbox> i have the live cd, i recently re-installed windows which overwrote the bootsector and obviously enough i dont have the bootloader anymore. I tried to bootload using the livecd and mounted my linux partition and chrooted it. But probably grub-install doesn't work on chrooted partitions, what are the alternatives for restoring the bootloader?
[09:10] <alecjw> hi. what connection spped do you need for vnc to be useable?
[09:10] <Spee_Der> n2diy, do you have gmfsk ?
[09:10] <mwe> !grub | nixbox
[09:10] <ubotu> nixbox: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:10] <adaptr> jin: sort it by resident memory usage, hit "h" for help, figure out what top does and what it can show you - it's a *lot*
[09:10] <ET-Ben> kitche: I don't think they are
[09:10] <Jc1963> hello all --- having a time getting java loaded, what dir do i create the symbolic link to i found a mozzila and mozilla firefox dirs ????
[09:10] <ShadowX> is Ubuntu debian based? or something else?
[09:10] <oxygene_> yes, debian based
[09:10] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, is there a way you can boot to console and see what the hardware detection picks up?  What model of Latitude do you have?
[09:10] <linuxnewbie756> shadowx, debian
[09:11] <mwe> ShadowX: debian based
[09:11] <adaptr> jin: I usually sort by %mem and %cpu alternatively, but you want to add some columns so you get more data for each process
[09:11] <adaptr> jin: and please *run dstat* on a separate terminal, as I've told you 3 times already
[09:11] <jin> this is not for me..
[09:11] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i have a inspiron 9400
[09:11] <jin> it's hard to understand all the data
[09:11] <jin> :(
[09:11] <mwe> top sucks ;) htop rocks.
[09:12] <adaptr> jin: if you want to know what's happening deep inside your computer, you'll have to make sense of it
[09:12] <adaptr> mwe: yeah ? i'll check it out then, thanks
[09:12] <mwe> adaptr: you can't 'scroll down' in top. AFAIK
[09:12] <adaptr> jin: apt-get install dstat and run it...
[09:12] <adaptr> mwe: true.. very true :(
[09:12] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, have you gone to the laptop tester page for it?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron9400
[09:12] <mwe> adaptr: htop is the next level
[09:12] <ET-Ben> kitche: Any more ideas? Thanks for the help btw
[09:13] <jin> adaptr, I have it running
[09:13] <jin> I see a lot of nummber but..
[09:13] <n2diy> Spee_Der: nope, what is it?
[09:13] <eXistenZ> How can I stream mp3 using ubuntu?
[09:13] <jin> eXistenZ, shoutcast
[09:13] <kitche> ET-Ben: not really since I went though everything that I can really think of,
[09:13] <ShadowX> I installed VMware via Synaptic, but its only the player. isnt the server available too?
[09:13] <eXistenZ> jin, Does it have any plugin?
[09:13] <kcinna> hey all
[09:13] <jin> for xmms?
[09:13] <mwe> ShadowX: follow the wiki
[09:13] <tlegistrae> Hi, I want to statically include/reject modules when compiling a new ubuntu kernal, but Im not sure what config files, etc, I need to change.  I have looked through options in menuconfig, but I cant seem to find what im looking for.
[09:13] <eXistenZ> jin, any player
[09:14] <mwe> !vmware | ShadowX
[09:14] <ubotu> ShadowX: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:14] <kcinna> anyone know of a tiff plugin for swiftfox?
[09:14] <ET-Ben> kitche: well my sound is turned up, and I think there is no usage by anything else and so its the only bad think on my install!
[09:14] <jin> eXistenZ, there is a plugin for xmms, but it is not working for me
[09:14] <jin> I'm using the binary provided by shoutcast
[09:14] <kitche> eXistenZ: what do you mean stream exactly? with shoutcast you can get their broadcasting tools
[09:14] <kcinna> !tiff
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tiff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <eXistenZ> kitche, the problem with shoutcast is that I still cannot find a good dsp plugin
[09:15] <mwe> ET-Ben: you need to catch crimsun for sound hard sound issues. I don't think he's around right now, though.
[09:15] <Bnirkow> hello
[09:16] <kitche> mwe: well with what I went though with et-ben crimsum will probably do the same thign
[09:16] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc what version of ubuntu do i need, do you know ?
[09:16] <adaptr> jin: what dstat shows you is the usage of your system resources once a second - you can see there exactly *where* the bottleneck is
[09:16] <hjmills> what do i need to do to get a command to run as soon as the machine has finished booting (this is a server so its pre-login)
[09:16] <mwe> kitche: maybe so
[09:16] <Bnirkow> who can tell me how looks correct line of root system ("/") in "fstab"??
[09:16] <adaptr> jin: if the loadavg keeps running that high, just let it run for a minute and pastebin the output
[09:16] <mwe> Bnirkow: depends on our setup
[09:17] <atlantia> why is it when i try to set alsa as my sound device in the Sound Admin Gui i get permissions errors when testing/
[09:17] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have only one ext3 partition
[09:17] <atlantia> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not establish connection to sound server
[09:17] <mwe> Bnirkow: mine is: /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[09:17] <alecjw> what connection speed do you need for vnc to be useable?
[09:17] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, Try Edgy out.  Looks like it has been well tested
[09:17] <kitche> alecjw: dsl at least
[09:17] <Bnirkow> mwe: thanks
[09:17] <kitche> alecjw: or isdn
[09:18] <mwe> Bnirkow: it will only work if root is /dev/hda3, though
[09:18] <alecjw> kitche: do you recon 1mbit will do?
[09:18] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i go for questions about vmware, what it is, how to install, etc, thx.
[09:18] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc yea but when i push "Start or install" it hangs after a while (When the "Worm" scrools on the screen)
[09:18] <Bnirkow> mwe: will see
[09:18] <mwe> !vmware | Balsamic_Chicken
[09:18] <ubotu> Balsamic_Chicken: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:18] <sint> hey, i need a few more apps in the source.list! thinks like anjuta or kdevelop, but apt cant find them. what i need to do to have them!?!
[09:19] <mwe> Balsamic_Chicken: also go to vmare.com
[09:19] <alecjw> kitche: what resolution do you recommend @ 1mbit?
[09:19] <blueprints88888> mwe, sence i have the vmware player installed, i tried installing the server and it said   A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.  failure.   execution aborted
[09:19] <blueprints88888> mwe, how would i fix this
[09:19] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. maybe uninstall the player first
[09:20] <Bnirkow> mwe: do You have line "/sys       /sys        sysfs  noauto              0 0"  ??
[09:20] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, have you checked the CD for damage?
[09:20] <blueprints88888> mwe, ive enevr uninstalled a player before
[09:20] <blueprints88888> mwe, how do i do that?
[09:20] <blueprints88888> well a prorgam
[09:20] <mwe> Bnirkow: no
[09:20] <atlantia> arrgh
[09:20] <nass> HELP : Grub won't boot on my notepad since I installed windows.... anyone could help ?
[09:20] <atlantia> why?
[09:20] <atlantia> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:20] <atlantia>   alsa-base* alsa-utils* gdm* gnome-applets* gnome-control-center*
[09:20] <atlantia>   gnome-panel* gnome-session* gnome-terminal* linux-sound-base* nautilus*
[09:20] <atlantia>   nautilus-cd-burner* ubuntu-desktop* ubuntu-minimal*
[09:20] <atlantia> when i run udo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[09:20] <atlantia> sorry spammed it a hair
[09:20] <Dreamglider_> shutterbc i just burned it
[09:20] <blueprints88888> nass i heard it works better if you intsall windows first then linux
[09:20] <ahrale> ok, succeed to send/recieve mail on gmail account on Evolution.... any chance to do that for yahoo & hotmail as well?
[09:20] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo aptitude purge vmare-player?
[09:21] <Flannel> atlantia: because all thosepackages depend on that.   Most of them are meta packages though,
[09:21] <edion> anyone here heard om a problem with the swedish letters  in ubuntu and irssi
[09:21] <blueprints88888> k ill try that
[09:21] <ET-Ben> Sorry about disappearing - the battery on my laptop died
[09:21] <atlantia> Flannel, i just wanna reinstall the alsa packages
[09:21] <shutterbc> Dreamglider_, there's an option to check the CD on boot -- I'd run that check
[09:21] <atlantia> Flannel, not uninstall gnome-desktop
[09:21] <mwe> blueprints88888: then try dpkg -l|grep vmware to see if anything is left
[09:21] <Dreamglider_> ok
[09:21] <Flannel> edion: make sure irssi and your terminal is set for UTF
[09:21] <nass> blueprints: I known, I just had linux since 1year+... the thing is grub does not display anything, the computer just hangs
[09:21] <finalbeta> With what program can I edit mpeg files? Avidemux gives me non working output.
[09:22] <nass> I don't mind screwing windows, as long as I get linux back
[09:22] <hjmills> what do i need to do to get a command to run as soon as the machine has finished booting (this is a server so its pre-login)
[09:22] <Flannel> atlantia: "ubuntu-desktop" is a meta package, however, you can reinstall it after removnig your sound stuff, and it'll most likely put all te stuff you just removed back in
[09:22] <atlantia> Flannel, will have to do install gdm ubuntu-desktop afterwards i guess
[09:22] <edion> Flannel they are
[09:22] <mwe> finalbeta: audacity?
[09:22] <sint> what is the largest apt source?
[09:23] <mwe> sint: huh?
[09:23] <blueprints88888> mwe ya kernel modules for vmware player is sitll there, but it said i uninstalled the player
[09:23] <finalbeta> mwe, sry, I mean mpeg for video, the files for VCD/SVCD
[09:23] <Flannel> atlantia: and, you won't lose your GUI while doing it either, for that matter.
[09:23] <atlantia> Flannel, main issue is 1.) when i try to select ALSA as my playback device in sound, i get "cannot conect to sound server, but I can select the card itself and it works. I am trying to get sound working for WOW
[09:23] <shutterbc> How much of a hassle is it to manually compile alsa from source, and can I go back to packages after doing so?
[09:23] <atlantia> Flannel, heh yeah
[09:23] <ahrale>  can anyone please  help with mail of yahoo/hotmail on evolution?
[09:23] <sint> mwe: i'm not sure if i have the largest source activated. i need a few tools, like kdevelop and apt can't find them
[09:24] <shutterbc> !repositories
[09:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:24] <Flannel> sint: you need to enable universe
[09:24] <ice_cream> hi, in my menu.lst, i see entries for kernel 2.6.15-25-386 and its recovery mode, but it doesnt show up in "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image"  or aptitude (as installed)... is it safe to remove, or do i need to reboot and attempt to load it
[09:24] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove it by hand then. sudo rm /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc/vm* probably
[09:24] <shutterbc> hmm... I like that bot :)
[09:24] <ET-Ben> !cheese
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <atlantia> Flannel, brb reboot
[09:24] <ben2> what is this room about?
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> ben2: See the /topic
[09:25] <mwe> ben2: ubuntu support
[09:25] <blueprints88888> mwe ok, or can i locate it also and delete it
[09:25] <ShadowX> ben2: this room is devoted to supporting the world's greatest Operating System: Ubuntu Linux
[09:25] <ice_cream> ben2, it's this cool game called ubuntu =P
[09:25] <shutterbc> ben2, the topic should describe it -- but we talk about Ubuntu issues
[09:25] <ben2> ahh linux
[09:25] <Someone> can anyone point me to a good resource for setting up a USB ADSL Modem, and connecting. i need a beginners guide if possible?
[09:25] <mwe> blueprints88888: locate wont find it. it only searches common paths like /usr/bin and stuff
[09:25] <ShadowX> yes, the incredible and lovely linux :)
[09:25] <shutterbc> yeah, right now it's a game for me -- I wanna get my sound working again!
[09:25] <blueprints88888> mwe ah ic
[09:25] <ET-Ben> Me too shutter!!
[09:25] <Flannel> !pppoe | Someone
[09:25] <ubotu> Someone: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe the command didnt do anyhting
[09:26] <ice_cream> sound can be a flaky issue
[09:26] <mwe> blueprints88888: find /lib/modules|grep vmmon maybe
[09:26] <ice_cream> i've gone through hell before w/ sound
[09:26] <ben2> so why would you say that it's better than windows
[09:26] <ice_cream> shutterbc, if you're really going insane, you could attempt to install a new kernel
[09:26] <Linux_den> is there an easy way to save all of the packages that I install for install on second pc ?
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe ya it found the .ko files
[09:26] <shutterbc> So basically what happened is I use a Dell D620 on Edgy -- from install, sound worked GREAT.  Then I installed a kernel image update, and alsa seems to be broken now.   I'm using snd_hda_intel
[09:26] <alecjw> ben2: please stop trolling
[09:26] <ice_cream> ben2, why do some people like linguine rather than cheeseburgers?
[09:26] <blueprints88888> mwe jsut rm them?
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: make sure to only remove the vmware modules
[09:27] <ben2> lol
[09:27] <shutterbc> ice_cream, I might try that, though I think that's what broke me in the first place.  I actually might want to downgrade my kernel
[09:27] <ET-Ben> I installed and had no sound and still dont
[09:27] <blueprints88888> mwe ok theres only three of them, and the only ones that showed up
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: vmmon.ko an vmnet.ko and maybe vmmon.o and vmnet.o, yes
[09:27] <sint> Flannel: how to make sure its activated?
[09:27] <ice_cream> shutterbc, "downgrade" ?  can't you just choose the older one when booting?
[09:27] <mwe> blueprints88888: what are they?
[09:27] <Bnirkow> mwe: do You have moment?
[09:27] <shutterbc> ET-Ben, what card do you have?  (lspci |grep -i audio)
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-686/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <blueprints88888> /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/misc/vmmon.ko
[09:27] <mwe> Bnirkow: yeah
[09:28] <atlantia> Flannel, let me ask you this, am i supposed to be able to select ESD or ALSA as my sound device in the sound settings?
[09:28] <mwe> blueprints88888: you can safely remove those
[09:28] <tim167> is there an open source DATA RECOVERY program for broken ntfs / fat32 drives ?
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: you'll see kdevelop in your package lists ;)
[09:28] <blueprints88888> mwe ok will do
[09:28] <sint> Flannel: i've edited source.list, do i have to remove lines then?
[09:28] <shutterbc> ice_cream, you know, I'm not sure -- I suck (from Gentoo I knew what I was doing, now I have to see if I get the option in ubuntu)
[09:28] <Myrth> hi, how do i refresh files from package? i can't remove it cuz i have dependancies. is it possible to just get the original files?
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: no, just uncomment the universe line
[09:28] <ucordes> can you fly something else then the starting plane in flightgear?
[09:28] <sint> k
[09:28] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have problem: when grub boots, and i see splash screen, system stops when "waiting for root file system"
[09:28] <mwe> ucordes: is it good?
[09:28] <ice_cream> shutterbc, well if you have grub for example, you can simply open /boot/grub/menu.lst to see if it lists the older kernels..
[09:28] <Flannel> sint: after that, sudo apt-get update, then apt-cache search kdevelop, should show results
[09:29] <shutterbc> yeah, checking
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: hmm
[09:29] <ET-Ben> shutterbc:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: did you follow the grub wiki?
[09:29] <gop> any here gotten frostwire 4 to work
[09:29] <sint> Flannel: ok, i'll try it
[09:29] <Bnirkow> mwe: hmm
[09:29] <ice_cream> btw, that ubuntu comprehensive sound guide in forums is crap
[09:29] <Bnirkow> mwe: not
[09:29] <crimsun> ET-Ben: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[09:29] <ucordes> mwe: ^^ yes but i would like to see different planes
[09:29] <mwe> Bnirkow: please do ;)
[09:29] <gop> !frostwire
[09:29] <mwe> ucordes: yeah
[09:29] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:30] <ice_cream> nice, frostwire... but now i like irc =P
[09:30] <blueprints88888> mwe deleted all but still cant install
[09:30] <gop> oh
[09:30] <gop> frostwire won't connect
[09:30] <ET-Ben> crimsun: Paste it all here?
[09:30] <mwe> blueprints88888: huh? what does it say?
[09:30] <Myrth> mm... is it possible to force remove one package that has dependancies?
[09:30] <crimsun> ET-Ben: no, pastebin. See the topic.
[09:31] <ucordes> mwe: can i change planes?
[09:31] <blueprints88888> mwe A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.Failure.Execution aborted.
[09:31] <mwe> blueprints88888: and dpkg -l | grep vm, does it show anything interesting?
[09:31] <shutterbc> ice_cream, well it's 2.6.17-10-generic that I'm using, though I think when I did the upgrade it was also the same kernel version.  I'd have to check the package description to see what was changed
[09:31] <ET-Ben> crimsun: I'm tired - doing it now
[09:31] <Bnirkow> mwe: but grub works normal
[09:31] <mwe> ucordes: It's been a while. I don't remember how
[09:31] <blueprints88888> mwe ya it still shows thekernel modules
[09:31] <mwe> Bnirkow: not if it doesn't boot linux
[09:32] <ET-Ben> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/864474
[09:32] <Myrth> mwe: plz help
[09:32] <mwe> Myrth: ?
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: really odd
[09:33] <Myrth> mwe: i need to refresh files from a package, can't remove/add cuz it has dependancies
[09:33] <Myrth> mwe: how do i do that?
[09:33] <ET-Ben> crimsun: did that work?
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: find /lib/modules|grep vm doesn't return anything now?
[09:33] <blueprints88888> mwe ii  vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27 <IP_ADDRESS>-10    vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.
[09:33] <ET-Ben> crimsun: if not: http://pastebin.com/864475
[09:33] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove those
[09:33] <Bnirkow> mwe: i have root on hda8, and in menu.lst kernel have settings to root=/dev/hda8
[09:34] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo aptitude purge vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27
[09:34] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[09:34] <Nstyguyy> hi can anyone help me please i am using kopete but i cannot search people by age or by country how can i change that?
[09:35] <mwe> Bnirkow: hmm. I'm not sure what's up then
[09:35] <sole> hola
[09:35] <mwe> !es | sole
[09:35] <ubotu> sole: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:35] <blueprints88888> mwe it started asking me to downgrade and started to install something,so i stopped it
[09:36] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. please alaborate
[09:36] <Bnirkow> mwe: maybe problem is ==> ubuntu 7.04 feist :>
[09:36] <tim167> is there any open source data recovery program for broken ntfs or fat32 HD's ?
[09:36] <atlantia> anyone here know how to fix an apparent permsisons issue with ALSA
[09:36] <mwe> Bnirkow: that could be broken
[09:36] <Flannel> Bnirkow, mwe, you need to speak in grub speak.  (hd0,7) and there's no equals sign either
[09:36] <mwe> Bnirkow: it's not stable
[09:36] <blueprints88888>  mweThe following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:36] <blueprints88888>   vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-27{p}
[09:36] <blueprints88888> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:36] <Bnirkow> mwe: i know
[09:36] <mwe> blueprints88888: that's good. accept
[09:37] <blueprints88888> oh ok
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: but in 6.10 kernel don`t likes me :/
[09:37] <mwe> blueprints88888: wait
[09:37] <Flannel> Bnirkow, mwe, oh you're talking kernel parameters
[09:37] <mwe> blueprints88888: what does it want to install?
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: even i turn "acpi=off" ==> Kernel in panic
[09:37] <blueprints88888> linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23
[09:37] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958' off
[09:37] <Bnirkow> mwe: when is on ==> stops on acpi
[09:37] <gop> !limewire
[09:37] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:38] <Someone> i really need a straight forward guide to setting up a USB DSL modem and connecting to the web, so far most of the info i have found refers to connecting via a modem/router
[09:38] <mwe> blueprints88888: huh?
[09:38] <shutterbc> ice_cream, my initrd.img in /boot is dated 12-14-2006 -- I think this was updated as the original Edgy one is from October.  What I'm wondering is if there's not a backup copy of the old one
[09:38] <ET-Ben> crimsun: do I need to set in on - if so - how?
[09:38] <blueprints88888>  mweboth of those are being installed
[09:38] <crimsun> ET-Ben: I gave you the precise command
[09:38] <ShadowX> Im trying to install vmware server, but I get this error: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[09:39] <mwe> blueprints88888: I don't know why it wants to instlall the vmware modules
[09:39] <ShadowX> then it fails and stops.  I uninstalled vmwareplayer, but server says vmware is installed
[09:40] <ShadowX> not sure, I used Synaptic, lemme see
[09:40] <mwe> blueprints88888: does sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware-player-kernel-modules-<IP_ADDRESS> do the same? I don't know why it want to upgrade the kernel either.
[09:40] <linuxnewbie756> anyone in here share data on a single hard disk in ubuntu and windows?
[09:40] <Bnirkow> mwe: so 6.10 is not for me
[09:40] <ET-Ben> crimsun: done but no effect
[09:40] <mwe> Bnirkow: why not, sorry?
[09:40] <ShadowX> heh, that may have been it :P
[09:40] <blueprints88888> mwe leme try that,shoudl is top the installation tho
[09:41] <mwe> blueprints88888: gotta go for a min. be back shortly
[09:41] <ShadowX> hmm not it
[09:41] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[09:41] <Bnirkow> mwe: when i boot from this liveCD, it stops on ACPI
[09:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi, what channel do i go for questions about vmare, i.e. what it is, where to download/get it, and other info, thx alot. (o and i had to restart so i didn't see any msgs if someone answered me already thx)
[09:41] <Bnirkow> mwe: when i turn acpi = off , in one moment i have an error ==> Kernel in panic
[09:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> !vmware
[09:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:42] <Bnirkow> mwe: and stops
[09:42] <crimsun> ET-Ben: ok, now: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[09:42] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, I dual boot windows XP and ubuntu -- mostly because it's a work laptop
[09:42] <blueprints88888> Shadowx im having the same problem
[09:42] <ShadowX> shutterbc: how can I totally remove all traces of Vmware?
[09:42] <ET-Ben> crimsun: done
[09:42] <linuxnewbie756> do you shave data within ubuntu and xp? meaning either ntfs in linux or ext3 in xp?
[09:42] <EnsignRedshirt> Does anyone have experience converting a set of jpeg files into, say, an avi file?  I know mencoder can do this, but the options are cryptic and I don't know if I have all the software installed that is required to do this.
[09:42] <shutterbc> ShadowX, I've only installed VMware server (not player) but lemme check where the configs are
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: audible? inaudible?
[09:43] <ShadowX> ok
[09:43] <my_haz> EnsignRedshirt: i think thats pretty easy to do with ImageMagick
[09:43] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, check out ntfs-3g if you want write access
[09:43] <ET-Ben> inaudible
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[09:43] <Bnirkow> mwe: on 6.10 stops, when i boot 7.04 ==> only with acpi=off, it boots normaly
[09:43] <vnx> hi guys. My system isn't booting into a graphical environment, just terminal. I might have messed it up with boot-up manager.
[09:43] <mwe> blueprints88888: ok. I'm back
[09:43] <killux> hey, i was using kismet and i wanted to look at the client info on my LAN so i pressed c but it list any clients
[09:43] <buena_swerte> ShadowX: bunch of vmware* related stuff is installed at /usr/bin
[09:43] <blueprints88888> mwe k:)
[09:43] <killux> whats up with that
[09:43] <linuxnewbie756> shutterbc:does that work alright?
[09:43] <blueprints88888> ya i tried what you said but it couldnt find it
[09:43] <Bnirkow> mwe: so i think its kernel
[09:43] <ET-Ben> crimsun: inaud
[09:43] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2
[09:43] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, for me yes, and for most people it seems to be pretty stable.  There's always that chance of dataloss
[09:44] <mwe> Bnirkow: I'm not sure what's up. ask someone else
[09:44] <mwe> blueprints88888: hmm. you need to get rid of all vmware packages
[09:44] <linuxnewbie756> have you had any trouble out of it?
[09:44] <Bnirkow> mwe: i need to wait for working distro with kernel other than 2.6.17
[09:44] <EnsignRedshirt> my_haz: imagemagick can create avi files? I'll look into it. I've only used it to create animated gifs.
[09:44] <blueprints88888> mwe ya i know,is there a way to do that
[09:44] <ET-Ben> crimsun: inaud
[09:44] <vnx> I can start kdm, but the system doesn't do it at startup. I'm looking in /etc/rc2.d but i dont know what to do.
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: ubuntu feisty?
[09:45] <shutterbc> ShadowX, you may want to check all the directories listed in vmware-install.pl or vmware-uninstall.pl
[09:45] <mwe> blueprints88888: I don't understand why APT insistes on installing those
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: yes
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: there is 2.6.20
[09:45] <blueprints88888> mwe i know thats kind of strange
[09:45] <mwe> shutterbc: he installed it with apt but can't get rid of them
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i know that
[09:45] <shutterbc> linuxnewbie756, no trouble for me and ntfs-3g, though I haven't used a ton
[09:45] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: but in edgy is 2.6.17 and for me dont works
[09:45] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: and feisty works me well allready
[09:45] <shutterbc> mwe, yeah, it's a chance that apt didn't clean it all out
[09:46] <ET-Ben> crimsun: any more ideas?
[09:46] <shutterbc> actually for vmware I might just do a "find / -name *vmware*
[09:46] <crimsun> ET-Ben: amixer set 'External Amplifier' unmute
[09:46] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: do You have pre-edited fstab and grub ??
[09:46] <shutterbc> and see what happens
[09:46] <crimsun> ET-Ben: please be patient; I'm busy
[09:46] <kuroro_> existe algum canal do brasil?
[09:46] <FooAtari> hi folks. i have a sound problem on an acer laptop that i am having real difficulties fixing. anyone know anything about this?
[09:46] <blueprints88888> mwe is ti just the files under///misc/vmnet.ko i have to remove?
[09:46] <ET-Ben> crimsun: ye me too - I'm in the middle of some animation - and I'm just trying to juggle :D
[09:46] <shutterbc> FooAtari, we're in the middle of a soundcard discussion actually.  What device is it?
[09:46] <mwe> shutterbc: so how does he clean it out? it insists on upgrading the kernel (?) and installing another version of vmaware modules when he tries apt-get --purge removing it
[09:47] <mwe> blueprints88888: remove the crap
[09:47] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: when i have installed feisty, in fstab i have UUID=545-536... etc etc
[09:47] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[09:47] <shutterbc> mwe, I have no idea about the kernel upgrade part -- I think that's apt talking about something else
[09:47] <mwe> shutterbc: probably
[09:47] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I did not edit anything manually  in fstab. to grub added a new splash boot screen.
[09:47] <shutterbc> there are files in /etc/vmware
[09:48] <FooAtari> its an alc8883 (i think) i just cant get it to work.  well the funny thing is i have installed both realtek and alsa drivers and it works ok until i restart the laptop, then nothing and i cant get alsamixer to run. its like alsa isnt starting at all
[09:48] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: hmm
[09:48] <nixbox> hi all
[09:48] <nixbox> could someone gimme the link for reinstalling grub after intalling windows again?
[09:48] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: can You paste for me. how looks Your fstab?
[09:48] <shutterbc> ShadowX, make sure /etc/vmware is emptied out
[09:48] <vnx> does anyone know how to re-enable booting into x on startup?
[09:48] <nixbox> !grub
[09:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:48] <mwe> shutterbc: shouldn't apt-get --purge remove get rid of them if it installed it though?
[09:49] <FooAtari> i have scoured the forums and google and so far nothing has worked
[09:49] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: durring the update to edgy I also get something like: UUID=ce07ed04-7fe7-43f2-8b31-78a0bd65104e / ext3 defaults in fstab
[09:49] <shutterbc> mwe, I'm assuming yes, but just in case it didn't we should check :)
[09:49] <shutterbc> it all depends on how the package was built
[09:49] <mwe> shutterbc: yeah. odd, though
[09:49] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: and..?
[09:49] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: but it works, so I don't want to broke anything
[09:49] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: huh
[09:49] <shutterbc> hmm... maybe I should learn how to make my own packages soon.  Gah, so many things to learn!
[09:50] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: so i broke :>
[09:50] <mwe> shutterbc: if you use the right utils it's not that hard
[09:50] <dc2448> I'm being a bit of a spaz - can someone remind me how to set up vnc so that remote vnc clinets can attatch to an existing ie running windows session please?
[09:50] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I am sure that you can replace this manually with /dev/hda1 .... without problem
[09:50] <ShadowX> thanks, thats what it was
[09:50] <shutterbc> I'm having a love/hate relationship with HDA Intel right now
[09:50] <ShadowX> /etc/vmware still existed
[09:51] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I was also frightened by this UUID=.... sh*t.
[09:51] <shutterbc> Cool.  Score one for brute force deletion to resolve an issue!
[09:51] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: paste for me this partition with "/" can You?
[09:51] <Kazero> Does ubuntu come with some type of speedstep program? I think my laptop is running at full speed all the time and is getting rather hot
[09:51] <EnsignRedshirt> my_haz: Any idea how to do it with imagemagick/convert?  I'm reading docs now, but if you happen to know...
[09:51] <FooAtari> ime having a hate relationship
[09:51] <FooAtari> *im
[09:51] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know if there is a dbgsym package for gaim available?
[09:52] <ET-Ben> Kazero: Mine too - battery died very quickly
[09:52] <matteo> uuid is scary
[09:52] <blueprints88888> mwe should i delete that folder of /etc/vmware?
[09:52] <mitico> hola
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah do that
[09:52] <eni191_>  what does this message mean in an other channel, i donot understand what to do :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command
[09:52] <blueprints88888> mwe k i tried but it says i cant
[09:52] <Toran> OK, so my main harddrive is giving I/O errors when I try to access it. I'm on a live cd right now. Is there any way to get my harddrive to respond long enough for me to back it up?
[09:52] <shutterbc> Kazero, what does /proc/cpuinfo tell you?
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: paste the error if you get one
[09:52] <mwe> blueprints88888: use sudo
[09:52] <kitche> eni191_: freenode wants you to register your nick
[09:53] <blueprints88888> blueprints88@blueprints88:~$ sudo rm /etc/vmware
[09:53] <blueprints88888> rm: cannot remove `/etc/vmware': Is a directory
[09:53] <shutterbc> Toran, if you have a similar HD to copy to, I'd use DD
[09:53] <blueprints88888> mwe never i tried rmdir
[09:53] <mwe> blueprints88888: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware
[09:53] <matteo> there is a dd useful fro backups
[09:53] <eni191_> kitche: yes, but how, where, I am new.....
[09:53] <Toran> shutterbc: I was trying to, but it always gets like 80mb in and then I/O errors
[09:53] <shutterbc> blueprints88888, try rm -rf
[09:53] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i mean paste this line
[09:53] <matteo> sdd or such, go search it
[09:53] <shutterbc> Toran, you can tell it to ignore errors
[09:53] <Toran> The 80mb is just the stuff that is in lost+found
[09:53] <Toran> Ooh, what's the flag?
[09:53] <t1000> what is the terminal command for deleting a folder and files inside?
[09:53] <shutterbc> ehm, this is why I bookmark things, hang on
[09:53] <mwe> t1000: rm -rf
[09:54] <ardchoille42> t1000, rm -r
[09:54] <mwe> t1000: careful, though
[09:54] <mwe> t1000: there is no going back
[09:54] <t1000> ok, thanx
[09:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Which package includes the command mpeg2encode?
[09:54] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: if you want to restore the UUIDs in the fstab, try for example: vol_id  /dev/hda2
[09:54] <blueprints88888> mwe got it, do i want to install the files in/usr/bin?
[09:54] <kitche> !register|eni191_
[09:54] <ubotu> eni191_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:54] <camerong> hey how do i use chmod so i can run php scripts in /var/www? i tried "sudo chmod -R 755 phpmyadmin" (after CD'ng into /var/www) but the script still wont work right
[09:54] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah accept the default is what I did at least
[09:54] <eni191_> thanks... I will read that first
[09:54] <Toran> how does "dd noerror if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda" sound?
[09:55] <blueprints88888> mwe kool thanks alot also for the help, ubuntu is made with people liek you
[09:55] <tree> hello
[09:55] <shutterbc> Toran, check http://www.crazytrain.com/dd.html
[09:55] <Toran> thanks
[09:55] <mwe> blueprints88888: heh
[09:55] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i try
[09:55] <ET-Ben> crimsun: still busy?
[09:55] <shutterbc> Toran, yeah, noerror is the flag
[09:55] <blueprints88888> mwe :)
[09:55] <crimsun> ET-Ben: yes, but I'll respond when I can
[09:56] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i can`t
[09:56] <tree> does anyone know where you can add and remove plugins for firefox?  I want to get rid og gxine plugin and use the mplayer plugin
[09:56] <KenSentMe> I have this strange problem with gaim (i think). Sometimes when i start gaim and it loads up my msn account, my total internet connection drops. Even on other clients on the network. Only after waiting for some minutes or manually resetting the modem/router my connection is back up. My internal network keeps working. Anyone has an idea why this can happen?
[09:56] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: btw i`m on livecd of other distro, to edit something ==> fstab
[09:56] <ardchoille42> tree, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[09:56] <mwe> tree: remove the plugin with APT if it was installed that way
[09:56] <tree> thx checking\
[09:57] <shutterbc> FooAtari, have you messed with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base yet?
[09:57] <camerong> can anyone here help me use chmod?
[09:57] <tree> I dont necessarily want to delete gxine plugin, just want to use mplayer embedded at the moment
[09:57] <shutterbc> camerong, what are you trying to do with chmod?
[09:57] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: so, can You paste for me this line?
[09:57] <ardchoille42> tree, mwe's advice is much better
[09:57] <FooAtari> shutterbc, a little.....
[09:57] <ShadowX> how can I make an external hard drive formatted as NTFS writeable in Ubuntu?
[09:57] <FooAtari> ill go and take a look
[09:58] <camerong> shutterbc: i installed phpmyadmin into my /var/www directory so i can edit my mysql databases with ease, but icant use it becusae of permission probs.. i need them all to be at 777
[09:58] <camerong> or the highes thtey can be
[09:58] <blueprints88888> mwe should i have two bridged networks? because i have eth0 and eth1?
[09:58] <mwe> ShadowX: you need to use ntfs-3g
[09:58] <mwe> !ntfs-3g | ShadowX
[09:58] <ubotu> ShadowX: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:58] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: did you mean:
[09:58] <zoli2k> UUID=ce07ed04-7fe7-43f2-8b31-78a0bd65104e / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,data=writeback 0 1
[09:59] <kolla_> mf.. so many packages I lack in ubuntu
[09:59] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: yes, thanks
[09:59] <FooAtari> all i have done is add this - options snd-hda-intel model=ACER
[09:59] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: carefull, UUID is hardware specific!!!!
[09:59] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i have this UUID changed to my ext3 partition
[10:00] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: you should use vol_id for this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182&highlight=uuid
[10:00] <shutterbc> camerong, you probably just need to chown the files to whatever user apache runs as
[10:00] <FooAtari> when i run alsamixer i get this alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[10:00] <Kazero> shutterbc: Sorry for the long wait on reply, I get permission denied, and when I run it in sudo I get command not founc
[10:00] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: "/dev/hda8"    will not work?
[10:01] <dutch> trying to change my screen resolution to 1280x1024..there's nothing in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4...where is it ?
[10:01] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: I think so.
[10:01] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: i will test ot now
[10:01] <mwe> !fixres | dutch
[10:01] <ubotu> dutch: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:02] <shutterbc> Kazero: try this: "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[10:02] <shutterbc> But don't dump all of the output to the channel
[10:02] <dutch> thanks
[10:02] <Bnirkow> zoli2k: be back tomorrow, cu later
[10:02] <mwe> dutch: look in xorg.conf. xfree86 is deprecated
[10:02] <ShadowX> just using general computing knowledge, Im assuming there is still no safe reliable way of converting one filesystem to another without totally reformatting, is there?
[10:02] <Kazero> shutterbc: Thanks, it does appear that it downclocked itself. I wonder why it gets so warm when I run ubuntu then
[10:03] <Pobega> ShadowX: Not that I know of, but you could always back up the data on another partition, create a new partition, and move the files over.
[10:03] <shutterbc> Kazero, well there are some known issues with acpi acting funky on systems.  You might want to check laptop testing wiki to see if there are known issues with your model
[10:03] <ShadowX> that would still take alot of time, right Pobega?
[10:03] <Pobega> ShadowX: Depends, what are you looking to do exactly?
[10:03] <Kazero> shutterbc: Link to t he wiki?
[10:03] <zoli2k> Bnirkow: It must simply work. I think the motivation why /dev/... is changed to UUID is beacause, if you have multiple OS in your PC and you change the partition table in the second OS, the numbering of disks may broke.
[10:03] <ShadowX> I have an external hard drive, I want to convert it from NTFS to ext3
[10:04] <mwe> ShadowX: there are unsafe ways of converting file systems but not safe one AFAIK
[10:04] <ShadowX> then install ext3 support into Windows
[10:04] <ET-Ben> 24 has just started Series 6 in the UK
[10:04] <shutterbc> Kazero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[10:04] <Pobega> ShadowX: Well yeah, I've never done it before but I'd think that you have to back everything up. How big is the drive and how much is in use?
[10:04] <ShadowX> but Ive got tons of GB worth of data on the drive, and I dont REALLY wanna wait to copy it all, but I guess all good things take time
[10:05] <mwe> ShadowX: do it or take your chances
[10:05] <ShadowX> its a 250 gb drive, and I have 153 free lol
[10:05] <mwe> ShadowX: converfs. it's *not* safe, though
[10:05] <ShadowX> so nearly 100 gb
[10:05] <Pobega> Oh, it'll be easy then.
[10:05] <ShadowX> is it safe to resize a partition with data on it?
[10:06] <mwe> ShadowX: define safe ;)
[10:06] <Pobega> Just resize the partition, create an ext3 partition, copy all of the files over, and then delete the NTFS/resize the ext3
[10:06] <ShadowX> mwe: safe = very slim chance of losing my valuable data lol
[10:06] <mwe> ShadowX: the rule of thumb is to back up everything when you mess with partitions
[10:06] <Pobega> So make a 150 GB ext3, move the 100GB of files over into it, delete the NTFS, and resize the ext3 to 100%
[10:07] <mwe> ShadowX: resising with gparted should be resonably safe
[10:07] <ShadowX> ok
[10:07] <blueprints88888> mwe do you need the serial number at the end of the installation to finish?
[10:07] <Pobega> Yeah, I use gparted most of the time; Unless I'm _forced_ to use the terminal.
[10:07] <ShadowX> cuz its not like Im really going totally insane with partitions, Im just doing a simple transfer here
[10:07] <mwe> blueprints88888: yeah. you need to register to get one if you haven't done so
[10:07] <ShadowX> anyone got a vmware server serial?
[10:07] <mwe> blueprints88888: or use mine and don't tell anyone
[10:08] <ardchoille42> haha
[10:08] <blueprints88888> mwe i did register, im just wating for the serial
[10:08] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i copy a dvd?
[10:08] <misfit_toy> ShadowX, vmware serials are free
[10:08] <blueprints88888>  mwe i dont mind :)
[10:08] <mwe> blueprints88888: XA9KJ-KYDFE-4856F-4W8XQ, KHJDE-TPM4L-Q0M6V-4YRX7
[10:08] <andcor> !wmware | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <blueprints88888> mwe thanks :)
[10:08] <andcor> !wmvare | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmvare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <livingdaylight> i only have one dvd player/copyer so how do i copy the dvd and burn it ?
[10:08] <andcor> !vmware | ShadowX
[10:08] <ubotu> ShadowX: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[10:08] <Savage-{> andcor: lol
[10:09] <andcor> Savage-{: only third time ;-)
[10:09] <mwe> andcor: it's vmware not wmware
[10:09] <mwe> andcor: you figured ;)
[10:09] <andcor> mwe: got it right eventually ;-)
[10:09] <matteo> is the player GPL?
[10:09] <blueprints88888> mwe wow i get invalid,guess you can only use it once
[10:10] <livingdaylight> can some one tell me?
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: I highly doubt it
[10:10] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. or is that one for the workstation. hang on
[10:10] <pingswept> How can I downgrade xserver-xorg-core from the latest version in feisty to 1.1.1-0ubuntu12?
[10:10] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: If you want a GPL'd replacement for VMWare look to Qemu
[10:10] <pingswept> The version in feisty has won me a white screen.
[10:10] <matteo> i know qemu
[10:10] <Kyral> matteo: It can even "play" VMWare images
[10:11] <mwe> blueprints88888: try this one: 904K8-YAPF7-2DM1N-4JJ3N
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe k
[10:11] <matteo> qemu is slow even with kqemu
[10:11] <ShadowX> heh, Gparted said it couldnt perform the task, but it resized it no problem
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe nice thanks alot :)
[10:11] <mwe> blueprints88888: worked?
[10:11] <blueprints88888> mwe sure did :)
[10:11] <mwe> good
[10:12] <blueprints88888> thanks
[10:12] <mwe> yw
[10:12] <gaspipe1> hey people
[10:12] <funkyHat> Hi gaspipe1
[10:12] <yosyp> I'm installing a package with a lot of dependencies
[10:12] <yosyp> is there a way for the package to install all the dependencies?
[10:12] <gaspipe1> adaptr: testing konversation.....looks cool
[10:12] <yosyp> (xserver-xorg-video-810-modesetting)
[10:13] <mwe> yosyp: sudo apt-get install foo
[10:13] <yosyp> k
[10:13] <funkyHat> yosyp, yes... apt/synaptic should handle that for you automatically
[10:13] <mwe> yosyp: should get the deps
[10:13] <livingdaylight> i only have one dvd player/copyer so how do i copy the dvd and burn it ?
[10:13] <Enverex> What the... " 5451 root      16   0 1053m 1.0g  11m S    2 50.9  15:11.40 Xorg" Anyone know why XOrg would be using 50% of my RAM?
[10:13] <adaptr> gaspipe1: good! first thing I did was change the colors and increase the font size
[10:13] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how i copy a dvd?
[10:13] <mwe> Enverex: it shouldn't, usually ;)
[10:14] <chrismhampson> i seem to have lost the ubuntu splash screens on startup...just a blank screen now. Any ideas on how to get it back?
[10:14] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: check out dvd::rip
[10:14] <blueprints88888> mwe for the setup wizard, for the os version, what if it doesnt have my verison
[10:14] <Jowi> chrismhampson, what did you do to lose them?
[10:14] <yosyp> funkyHat , mwe , it doesn't find it (xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting) because it is experimental
[10:14] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, ?
[10:15] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, what is dvd: :rip?
[10:15] <Jowi> chrismhampson, so the screen is blank until the kdm/gdm screen show so you can log in?
[10:15] <mwe> blueprints88888: it doesn't? what is it?
[10:15] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: you said you are looking for something to copy DVD's?
[10:15] <blueprints88888> its Windows XP Media Center Version 2005
[10:15] <mwe> blueprints88888: oh. windows xp I guess. (cross fingers)
[10:16] <blueprints88888> should i choose windows xp 2003 home edition
[10:16] <Enverex> Loads of KDE based stuff seems to be running when I bring up TOP and check my memory usage. Is there any way to stop that from happening?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, no, i have k3b. But i don't know how to copy the dvd coz i only have one dvd player
[10:16] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yes, so you need to rip it
[10:16] <mwe> blueprints88888: It will *probably* work
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, normally, i can have cd in the cd tray and then the blank in the dvd tray
[10:16] <Savage-{> then burn it with k3b
[10:16] <blueprints88888> mwe ok
[10:16] <chrismhampson> Jowi, yep that's it
[10:16] <Jowi> chrismhampson, sounds like framebuffer problem.
[10:16] <mwe> blueprints88888: don't count on it though
[10:16] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, bu8t it just says burn and then it will ask for a blank and it hasn't copied the dvd yet
[10:16] <Jowi> !framebuffer | chrismhampson
[10:16] <ubotu> chrismhampson: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[10:17] <mwe> blueprints88888: but I think it will
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, yes, so how do i rip it?
[10:17] <yosyp> ugh,
[10:17] <yosyp> too many depencencies
[10:17] <yosyp> this is dependencie hell
[10:17] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, if i right-click it doesnt exactly say 'copy'
[10:17] <chrismhampson> Jowi, not sure i understand
[10:17] <mwe> good night all
[10:17] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: it isn't going to work like 1, 2, 3 hehe
[10:18] <adam__> #ubuntu-pl
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: just download it and try it out
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, 1,2,3,4,5,6?
[10:18] <n2diy> Anybody know how I can recover an old pgp key? I haven't used it in a decade, but would like to now, if I can recover it off the net.
[10:18] <Jowi> chrismhampson, follow the link that ubotu gave you. read from "The black screen" and onward. it sounds like the problem you have.
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: it is in the repo just do a search in snaptic
[10:18] <gaspipe1> adap
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, dvd: :rip?
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yeah search for dvd
[10:18] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, that will let me rip it and then i can copy it with k3b?
[10:18] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: yes
[10:19] <bad_cables> is anyone in here a PPC pro?
[10:19] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:19] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok thanks
[10:19] <Jowi> chrismhampson, ...because you don't see any messages at all during boot do you? no splash and no messages until the login screen?
[10:19] <wezzie> how do i install KDE on a fresh install of edgy
[10:19] <gaspipe1> adaptr: easiest way to add or remove a program is under Applications, add/remove?
[10:19] <bad_cables> i cant get my CRT to work
[10:19] <shadowfku> Hi.. anybody kows a repository that i can find libcairo1.2.6?
[10:19] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: if you need more assistance then do a google search for dvd::rip howto
[10:19] <chrismhampson> Jowi, no i see a few messages
[10:19] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: I am still kinda new to it too
[10:19] <Judicata> does anyone have XGL+Beryl working since the update?
[10:19] <edion> if i want to install licq what shall i write then
[10:19] <Jowi> chrismhampson, oh. then skip the framebuffer page
[10:19] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:19] <ET-Ben> crimsun: hows it going?
[10:20] <Joanie> hey.  something bad happened along the way in my upgrade from edgy to feisty.  is there an easy way to revert back to edgy and give it another go, or should I just wipe and start over? :-)
[10:20] <chrismhampson> Jowi, it seems to me that usplash isn't working properly
[10:20] <adaptr> gaspipe1: why do you ask ? if anything is self-explanatory....
[10:20] <Jowi> chrismhampson, instead, have a look in /boot/grub/menu.lst if the word "splash" appear last in the kernel line
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, i found dvdrip and downloading/installing now
[10:20] <wezzie> !kde
[10:20] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:20] <chrismhampson> Jowi, i tried reinstalling usplash and the ubunu-usplash stuff but it didn't work
[10:20] <livingdaylight> Savage-{, thx
[10:21] <bcardarella> Do I have to run crontab -e as sudo ?
[10:21] <Jowi> chrismhampson, I understand. can you please verify menu.lst?
[10:21] <gaspipe1> adaptr: just try'n to learn tricks or get tips from you
[10:21] <ET-Ben> !CTU
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CTU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <adaptr> gaspipe1: just because I got you out of a noobie-crack doesn't mean I'll be your daddy from now on :) if you have any questions, just ask in channel; plenty of people to help
[10:21] <Savage-{> livingdaylight: np
[10:21] <gecko> how do u search using the bot? lol.. put a ! before?
[10:21] <gaspipe1> adaptr: no prob pops
[10:21] <adaptr> good boy
[10:22] <chrismhampson> Jowi, it reads /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash
[10:22] <yosyp> umm, how can i install a package that has a lot of dependencies and always fails?
[10:22] <ImSoScrewed> I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:22] <ShadowX> can someone tell me how stable the EXT2/3 driver for Windows is?
[10:23] <ET-Ben> Anyone here good with sound problems?
[10:23] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you talking about ext2fsd?
[10:23] <ShadowX> um, lemme see
[10:24] <ShadowX> filename: Ext2IFS_1_10c.exe
[10:24] <ac2N_> hello
[10:24] <ac2N_> i installed cedega and far cry
[10:24] <ac2N_> and when i run farcry, i get this error:
[10:24] <Dell-Net> what is the name of the program that you update nvidia drivers?
[10:24] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... dunno about that one... fsd works good, just NEVER set it to automatically mount on startup
[10:24] <ac2N_> /usr/bin/cvscedega: line 108:  5305 Erreur de segmentation  "$ConfigurePrefix/bin/$WineExecName" "$@"
[10:24] <Savage-{> ac2N_: try wine
[10:24] <ac2N_> wineX ?
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: no just wine
[10:25] <ShadowX> if it works good, Im only gonna put the windows "My Documents" folder on an ext3 partition, cuz thats all I really need. anything else is pretty much windows-related only anyway. so Im not too concerned about having Linux access there
[10:25] <Dell-Net> what is the name of the program that you update nvidia drivers?
[10:25] <ac2N_> but farcry use directX9 not open GL
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: and switch to OpenGL mode
[10:25] <ac2N_> ok i will test like this
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: oh really
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: I thought they had opengl
[10:25] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX ... beyond me... good luck
[10:25] <Savage-{> ac2N_: nm then
[10:25] <ac2N_> but i m almost sure that farcry doenst know open gl
[10:25] <ac2N_> yes :)
[10:25] <Joanie> ping: something bad happened along the way in my upgrade from edgy to feisty.  is there an easy way to revert back to edgy and give it another go, or should I just wipe and start over? :-)
[10:26] <ac2N_> so with wineX
[10:26] <Savage-{> ac2N_: sorry to get your hopes up
[10:26] <Jowi> chrismhampson, if you type "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so" are there any alternatives listed?
[10:26] <ImSoScrewed> I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:26] <ac2N_> Savage-{:  its nothing :)
[10:26] <ShadowX> thats all I really need to access via linux anyway. cuz both windows and linux have they're own partitions to install software and system crap too
[10:26] <bcardarella> Does cron keep a log of the jobs it has run?
[10:26] <ShadowX> they'll just share the external drive for my personal stuff, like pics and music and vids and stuff I am working on
[10:26] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I see the ubuntu and kubuntu splash options
[10:27] <yosyp> =[
[10:27] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you want to access your My Documents folder contained in windows partition from linux?
[10:27] <chrismhampson> Jowi, the ubuntu one has a * next to it and the kubuntu has a +
[10:27] <Savage-{> ac2N_: might try cedega channel on that
[10:27] <yosyp> anyone here have xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting installed?
[10:27] <ac2N_> i try so
[10:27] <cafuego_> chrismhampson: + is the default, * is currently selected.
[10:27] <ac2N_> and no answer for the moment :s
[10:27] <ShadowX> yea, so Im moving My Documents to an ext3 partition, then allowing both Windows and linux (dualboot) to use it
[10:28] <Savage-{> ac2N_: I see
[10:28] <n2diy> Anybody know how I can recover an old pgp key? I haven't used it in a decade, but would like to now, if I can recover it off the net.
[10:28] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... you can access ntfs partitions from linux already.... seems like overkill
[10:28] <chrismhampson> cafuego, according to the output it says press enter to keep default [*]
[10:28] <ShadowX> otherwise, about the only crap I really use anyway on that drive is Windows software, and theres no need for linux to have write acccess to it
[10:28] <Jowi> chrismhampson, ubuntu is the default one *
[10:28] <ShadowX> but I need write access
[10:28] <cafuego_> n2diy: The public key sure, but if you're missing the private key part, no chance.
[10:28] <ShadowX> RELIABLE write access
[10:28] <ImSoScrewed> !ntfs-3g | ShadowX
[10:28] <ubotu> ShadowX: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[10:28] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok so i wonder why it won't show!
[10:28] <Jowi> chrismhampson, just type 1 and see if anything changes
[10:28] <ShadowX> exactly, BETA. I dont wanna take the chance
[10:28] <chrismhampson> Jowi, nope
[10:29] <ac2N_> do you know ntfs-3g ??
[10:29] <ET-Ben> Anyone know anything about Sound Problems - and yes I'm still here!
[10:29] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX.. i never had a problem with it.
[10:29] <ShadowX> hmm
[10:29] <ac2N_> you can read and write ntfs partition with that :)
[10:29] <ShadowX> I knwo I can read and write, but I want to make sure Im not really taking a risk of losing data
[10:29] <as|an> is downloading files on emule safe on linux?
[10:29] <n2diy> cafuego, ok, how can I get the public key? Hopefully I have a backup somewhere with the private key on it?
[10:29] <chrismhampson> Jowi, I've changed it to kubuntu again. If I see kubuntu splash on reboot what would the problem be?
[10:29] <as|an> !emule
[10:29] <ikonia> ShadowX: there is that risk
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <ShadowX> exactly
[10:30] <as|an> do'h
[10:30] <ET-Ben> !sounds
[10:30] <ET-Ben> !sound
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <Jowi> chrismhampson, faulty theme maybe
[10:30] <ShadowX> so I figured it'd be safer if I just put my docs on an ext3 and installed a stable driver in windows
[10:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:30] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX  if you're worried about messing up your windows partition, make new partition for MyDocuments an NTFS one, and only use ntfs-3g on that partition
[10:30] <ikonia> ShadowX: there is no stable ext3 driver for windows
[10:30] <chrismhampson> Jowi, ok well thanks...I'll try giving it a reboot
[10:30] <ShadowX> but thats just it, I dont wanna lose THAT information
[10:30] <ImSoScrewed> I've had more problems with ext3 use in windows than the other way around
[10:30] <ShadowX> Linux needs no access to Windows
[10:30] <ShadowX> my documents is already stored on the external drive
[10:30] <ShadowX> but in NTFS
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> shadowX  how big is the drive?
[10:31] <ikonia> shadowX just be aware there is no stable way of accessing ext3 from windows
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> you could use FAT32
[10:31] <riotkittie> ok, for someone who is so worried about data loss, you sure make it sound like you dont do backups
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> it is stable for both
[10:31] <riotkittie> :P
[10:31] <ShadowX> riotkittie: my problem: I have a 250 gb drive
[10:31] <ShadowX> 80 gb worth of data
[10:31] <ImSoScrewed> hey riotkittie.. could you look at this...I need some help undestanding this HowTo  if anyone could take a look... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:32] <ShadowX> and not enough room anywhere else to secure it, without wiping my deadmoo Mac drive
[10:32] <up365> ET-Ben: try this link worked for my SBLive http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:32] <riotkittie> ImSoScrewed: i cant help with tv output
[10:32] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX.... multiple FAT32 partitions?
[10:32] <ShadowX> anyone remember the biggest size for FAT32?
[10:32] <ImSoScrewed> riotkittie... i just need a little interpretation work
[10:33] <pedro> hello guys
[10:33] <ikonia> hello
[10:33] <pedro> does anyone know how to disabled the fsck checks when you're running on battery power?
[10:33] <ImSoScrewed> riotkittie... you once told me some cool stuff...I was using name CyberCod....RSEUB???
[10:33] <ikonia> pedro: not really possible to differentiate
[10:33] <ikonia> you'd have to setup a hardware profile
[10:33] <ImSoScrewed> I use different names when on customer machines
[10:33] <pedro> ikonia; because of upstart ?
[10:34] <pedro> sysvinit does it...
[10:34] <ikonia> pedro: no - because from a command line - how could you differentiate if there is power or not ?
[10:34] <riotkittie> ok let me take  a look but i am limited to elinks which is misbehaving
[10:34] <ImSoScrewed> I'm havin trouble understandin this line :   export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:34] <eni191__> exit
[10:34] <pedro> ikonia; well actually you can
[10:34] <pedro> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-commits/2005-November/000160.html
[10:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do i start vmware (from console)?
[10:34] <pedro> look the checkfs.sh
[10:35] <ikonia> pedro: so if you can ? whats the problem
[10:35] <pedro> oh god.
[10:35] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: vmwareplayer
[10:35] <Jowi> pedro, your best bet is probably in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[10:35] <pedro> that is sysvinit
[10:35] <pedro> not upstart
[10:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia thx
[10:35] <ikonia> pedro: but you're correct upstart doesn't work in the same way
[10:35] <pedro> ubuntu uses upstart not sysvinit
[10:35] <pedro> see the difference here?
[10:35] <ikonia> I hate upstart and think ubuntu has made a mistake
[10:35] <ikonia> yes, I'm well aware of the difference
[10:35] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia btw that doesn't work
[10:35] <MrKeuner> hi everyone. I have a dual boot laptop. sda1 is NTFS and sda5 is ext3. I am happy with my Ubuntu installation on sda5, however I have to reinstall xp on sda1 which will probably remove relevant grub files. How can I revet that grub file(s) back there after the xp re-installation? thank you
[10:35] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: vmware-player
[10:35] <aimtrainer> hi! Where to put a command that should be executed at boot?
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> !grub | MrKeuner
[10:36] <ubotu> MrKeuner: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:36] <pedro> Jowi; thanks i'm gonna take a look to it ;)
[10:36] <ikonia> aimtrainer: in the init scripts for 6.0.6 in upstart deps script for edgy
[10:36] <MrKeuner> tonyyarusso: thanks
[10:36] <kordobes> hola
[10:36] <ImSoScrewed> MrKeuner... you can also use the Ultimate Boot CD    just google it... it will restore grub correctly
[10:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia same thing
[10:36] <ImSoScrewed> very easy
[10:36] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: look for the vmware player command
[10:36] <jin> what program cna you use to rip off the audio from a video file?
[10:36] <MrKeuner> ImSoScrewed: thank you, too
[10:36] <aimtrainer> ikonia, yea im running edgy - where are those scripts?
[10:36] <vnx> Hi. My system stopped booting into x. I see S*gdm and S*kdm in rc2.d and rc3.d (this is where they should be, right?) but x doesn't start on boot. how do I enable it?
[10:36] <ikonia> !upstart > aimtrainer
[10:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia that's what i was looking for here hehe =)
[10:37] <ikonia> vnx: probably X is not configured
[10:37] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: do a find for it
[10:37] <ikonia> Balsamic_Chicken: check its even installed
[10:37] <aimtrainer> ikonia, thanks
[10:37] <vnx> I can boot into it manually though
[10:37] <Balsamic_Chicken> ikonia it was installed with synaptic
[10:37] <ikonia> vnx: are you using 6.0.6 or 6.10
[10:37] <vnx> 6.10
[10:37] <ikonia> !upstart > vnx
[10:38] <arti> hi
[10:38] <Megaqwerty> how do I recover a file I just "permanently deleted" from my Ubuntu Box?
[10:39] <ikonia> Megaqwerty: its gone
[10:39] <Savage-{> !upstart
[10:39] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:39] <Megaqwerty> ikonia: seriously?
[10:39] <gecko> Megaqwerty: its not like windows lol..
[10:39] <ikonia> Megaqwerty: yup
[10:39] <riotkittie> Megaqwerty: you dont. :P
[10:39] <msbt> hi
[10:39] <Jowi> !recover | Megaqwerty
[10:39] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[10:39] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if someone could help me with my resolution problem. It keeps defaulting to my laptop resolution instead of my external resolution
[10:39] <as|an> anyone?
[10:39] <as|an> lol.
[10:40] <ImSoScrewed> any luck understanding that riotkittie?
[10:40] <as|an> no really,. i asked the question some time ago. repeating it again. is it safe to use emule variants on Linux?
[10:40] <gecko> ubotu says ext2 partitions... but arent these partitions usually ext3?
[10:40] <vnx> thanks. I knew about upstart, but I thought I read something about "legacy" support. I'll read up. Thanks!
[10:40] <ikonia> as|an: why would it be / be not
[10:40] <ShadowX> can windows access fat32 thats 250 gb?
[10:40] <as|an> i've read all sorts of opinions- just would like to get an idea or two here
[10:40] <riotkittie> ImSoScrewed: not really, sorry. i am barely awake at the moment
[10:40] <ikonia> shadowX no thats a file system limitation
[10:40] <ImSoScrewed> ShadowX... i don't think FAT32 goes that high
[10:40] <eisma> could someone walk me through installing jre and flash on mycomputer?
[10:40] <gecko> lol riotkittie: u need some rest... gotta be able to keep up with the kids
[10:40] <ShadowX> what is the highest size?
[10:40] <ShadowX> anyone know?
[10:40] <ikonia> !flash > eimsa
[10:40] <Herhangibiri> hi
[10:41] <ShadowX> nm, wikipedia says 127.53
[10:41] <ikonia> ShadowX: something like 32gb
[10:41] <eisma> i don't want to read it off a website
[10:41] <ikonia> ahhh there you go
[10:41] <eisma> if i did, i wouldn't be here
[10:41] <jin> what program can you use to rip off the audio from a video file?
[10:41] <ikonia> eisma: thats the help you're going to get
[10:41] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... i can help with flash
[10:41] <ShadowX> Scandisk is the only reason Windows itself wont make em bigger
[10:41] <Jowi> gecko, ext3 is ext2+journalling and indexes I think
[10:41] <eisma> thanks ImSoScrewed
[10:41] <eisma> how do i get flash on my computer?
[10:41] <gecko> eisma: the whole purpose of this place is pretty much to "guide you in right direction" not necessarily we tell u what to do
[10:41] <eisma> so i can see flash videos and whatnot
[10:41] <ifbermeo> i justupgraded from dapper to edgy and I am having  trouble booting the new kernal. i am currently using <IP_ADDRESS>6 i think and the new one is <IP_ADDRESS>6 i think. when i attempt to boot the new one, the response is   really sluggish when i try to log in and my desktop never loads. does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:41] <gecko> use automatix2
[10:41] <Savage-{> eisma you can get it through snaptic now
[10:41] <eisma> well that doesn't help me cause i don't know
[10:42] <gecko> eisma: go to getautomatix.com and install it.
[10:42] <Savage-{> eisma synaptic
[10:42] <ikonia> !flash > eisma
[10:42] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... wait a sec... I'll try to PM you
[10:42] <ikonia> thats the right direction for you
[10:42] <gecko> ikonia lol
[10:42] <riotkittie> i can understand not understanding a website, or the instructions on it... but being flatout unwilling to read one... <scratches head>
[10:42] <ikonia> riotkittie: its just rude
[10:42] <eisma> that's cause i aleady have riotkittie
[10:42] <gecko> riotkittie: called laziness..not understandability
[10:42] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, "recover" (that's the name of the package) might help you but usually, if you delete it it's gone.
[10:43] <ikonia> eisma: what part of the instructions did you not understand
[10:43] <ImSoScrewed> its called getting fed up with bogus incomplete instructions that assume the reader knows something that he doesn't
[10:43] <eisma> no i followed instructions and it didn't work out for me
[10:43] <Megaqwerty> Jowi: yeah, that stinks I'm on ext3 so recover won't help me
[10:43] <ikonia> we can help you with specific questions
[10:43] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, try it
[10:43] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... you got the PM?
[10:43] <eisma> yeah i got it but i don't think you're getting mine
[10:43] <gnufied> my hostname is xaos, and machine is not on the internet. so is there anyway to tweak /etc/hosts file so that *.xaos when pinged local points to the same machine?
[10:43] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: the instructions are detailed and assume nothing
[10:43] <Megaqwerty> Jowi: it didn't detect any ext2 devices
[10:43] <eisma> ikonia obviously they do cause i can't get through it
[10:44] <Jowi> Megaqwerty, ah. how about e2undel?
[10:44] <gnufied> when pinged locally i meant
[10:44] <ikonia> eisma: what part are you strugging with
[10:44] <NeoGeo64> how do i delete linux and install vista?? vista is supposed to be better
[10:44] <NeoGeo64> windows vista is supposedly secure and has alott of  new features! like tabbed browsing and such
[10:44] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia.. try these instructions then and tell me what I'm supposed to do:    export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:44] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: just install vista - it well remove ubuntu
[10:44] <ShadowX> NeoGeo64: NO version of Windows will EVER surpass Linux in security and stablity
[10:44] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what don't you understand about those
[10:44] <invisiblekid> Laughing Out Loud NeoGeo64 good luck on that
[10:44] <ImSoScrewed> eisma... you can send unless you register... reply to mine
[10:44] <ikonia> ShadowX its a troll
[10:44] <Judicata> NeoGeo64: go get a copy and put the Vista CD in.
[10:44] <Enverex> NeoGeo64, You have no ideas about OSs do you
[10:44] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, Windows will never be better than Linux.
[10:44] <gnufied> so in a word does /etc/hosts supports regular expressions?
[10:45] <Savage-{> eisma: just do apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:45] <abo> I'm having problems running beryl, anyone can help?
[10:45] <ikonia> gnufied: in what way
[10:45] <ikonia> abo /join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <ShadowX> I decided to just make 2 fat32
[10:45] <Judicata> abo: what card / driver?
[10:45] <riotkittie> oh yay. is it time for another "os 1 beats os 2!1!!11!!!" debate again.
[10:45] <ShadowX> no reason for security on the filesystem when the only place the drive will ever be is in my possession
[10:45] <abo> join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:45] <Megaqwerty> too much trouble
[10:45] <Megaqwerty> forget it
[10:45] <gnufied> i can currently do manual entiries like <IP_ADDRESS> in.xaos and so on to make individual subdomains point to the same machine
[10:45] <ShadowX> besides, fat32 can be read and written by windows, linux, and mac natively. so im not worried about data loss
[10:46] <ikonia> gnufied: not sure what you mean
[10:46] <ImSoScrewed> shadowX... good going... just no files over 4GB... or they'll go missing
[10:46] <invisiblekid> yea but it doesnt support some larger files
[10:46] <Enverex> Holy cow,  Java 1.6 is 96MB
[10:46] <eisma> Savage if you get this
[10:46] <gnufied> ikonia, i want *.xaos point to localhost, without playing with dns settings. because I am working locally.
[10:46] <eisma> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:46] <eisma> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
[10:46] <eisma> how do you fix that?
[10:46] <ShadowX> hmm, in that case, I might do fat32 for everything, but have an NTFS for large files, JUST in case I need em lol
[10:46] <ikonia> gnufied: so just put in an alias
[10:46] <invisiblekid> eisma close synaptic
[10:46] <ikonia> eisma: you forgot sudo
[10:46] <eisma> it's not open
[10:46] <gnufied> ikonia, where?
[10:47] <linda>  install flash 9 http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[10:47] <invisiblekid> use sudo then
[10:47] <ikonia> gnufied: /etc/hsots
[10:47] <ikonia> hosts
[10:47] <gnufied> ikonia, hmm can you tell me the line
[10:47] <Pesa> n8
[10:47] <gnufied> ikonia, when i say <IP_ADDRESS> *.xaos in /etc/hosts file it doesn't work
[10:47] <ikonia> gnufied:  <IP_ADDRESS> localhost bigbox
[10:47] <ikonia> that puts the alias bigbox to point at localhost
[10:48] <n2diy> I just generated a gpg key, what is the key-id I need to send to the server?
[10:48] <notbook> can somebody tell me why when I install extra fonts the system says error there is no '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' directory ?
[10:48] <Jowi> gnufied, it is simple "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost www.myhost.com myhost mail.myhost.com etc, etc, etc...
[10:48] <ikonia> notbook: is there a file ?
[10:48] <ikonia> or directory
[10:48] <gnufied> ikonia, ok but i am generating subdomains dynamically and i can't possibly type all the entries
[10:48] <gnufied> ikonia, and hence i need regular expressions
[10:48] <LinTux> I installed KDE in Console, how do I completely remove it?
[10:48] <ikonia> gnufied: you need some clever scripting
[10:48] <notbook> can somebody tell me why when I install extra fonts the system says error there is no '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' directory ? I'm using ubuntu 6.10 edgy
[10:48] <ikonia> LinTux: apt-get remove
[10:49] <ikonia> notbook: does that path exist#
[10:49] <ardchoille42> LinTux, You want to return to pure gnome?
[10:49] <theCore> I got an interesting question from someone in another channel: "Is it possible to install linux on a computer without a screen?"
[10:49] <ImSoScrewed> quote "ikonia: ImSoScrewed: what don't you understand about those"   i don't understand what i'm supposed to replace XORG_PREFIX with
[10:49] <LinTux> ikonia: I tried that but it is still in the session options at logon and is still there
[10:49] <NeoGeo64> How come all the video players on Linux suck?  I'm trying to skip through a movie file so I hit click where I want it to go and it just skips foward 3 seconds instead, of backwards, whatever it feels like doing.
[10:49] <ikonia> LinTux: not removed all the packages
[10:49] <notbook> no
[10:49] <ikonia> NeoGeo64: troll elsewhere please before I request an op bans you
[10:49] <ikonia> notbook: there is the problem
[10:50] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what are you trying to do please
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im not trolling ikonia
[10:50] <LinTux> ardchoille42: Yes m8, back to good old Gnome thats what I want?
[10:50] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, Please go away
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im asking a question
[10:50] <notbook> ikonia: then how to fix it ?
[10:50] <ikonia> notbook: make the dir
[10:50] <ardchoille42> LinTux, Try this page: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[10:50] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64 what players have you tried?
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> gxine and movie player
[10:50] <Jowi> NeoGeo64, /join #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:50] <invisiblekid> NeoGeo64 just plain xine
[10:50] <NeoGeo64> im having trouble skipping and seeking thru files, it just goes ahead 3 seconds wherever i click on the line
[10:51] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64   try vlc
[10:51] <zapd0s> what does URI mean for printers?
[10:51] <invisiblekid> use xine instead of gxine, it always works better for me
[10:51] <invisiblekid> or vlc
[10:51] <ImSoScrewed> NeoGeo64   install package   wxvlc
[10:52] <Feengur> I installed nvidia drivers for my 7600gt last night and my res is stuck at 800x600.  I've run nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings.  The resolutions are listed in my xorg.conf, but they aren't showing up.  Any suggestions?
[10:52] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... any idea what I should put there?  its not the xorg.conf  its somethin else
[10:52] <ardchoille42> NeoGeo64, With the first few comments you made coming into this channel, I"m surprised you'd get any help here at all.
[10:52] <notbook> ikonia: after make the dir, should I have to copy the subfolder content from /usr/share/X11/fonts/* into there?
[10:52] <vnx> hi again. it seems like for now upstart just runs the runlevel scripts. is this true? if so, shouldn't having S*gdm in /etc/rc2.d allow me to boot into x? my system just goes to the terminal. I'm new to all this, so I could easily be doing something very wrong. Any advice?
[10:52] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: not sure what you're trying to do - are you trying to compile software
[10:52] <pinks02> can anyone help me sort out a gateway/route problem please? I can connect ppp to the internet and get the ISP's local and remote IP's, DNS etc, but I can't ping or browse
[10:53] <crazytales> what happened? I went to install a fx5200, then started up
[10:53] <crazytales> now i am in text mode
[10:53] <crazytales> how do I get GMONE back?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> crazytales: ctrl+alt+f7
[10:53] <remyforbes777> crazytales, is GMone your boyfriend?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> crazytales: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:53] <remyforbes777> is he french
[10:53] <crazytales> 'the X server is now disabled'
[10:53] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia  yes... im trying to get TV out to work on a radeon 9250... i have this HOWTO, but no idea what its asking me to do... http://megahurts.dk/rune/tv_output.html
[10:53] <Feengur> any suggestions?
[10:54] <n2diy> I just generated a gpg key, what is the key-id I need to send to the server?
[10:54] <crazytales> remyforbes777: that was a typos
[10:54] <crazytales> typo*
[10:54] <remyforbes777> crazytales, lol
[10:54] <remyforbes777> crazytales, just teasing
[10:54] <crazytales> (:
[10:54] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: I don't think thats a great document
[10:54] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia  i got down to the line    export XORG_PREFIX="/usr" (XORG_PREFIX/bin is where Xorg is located)
[10:55] <phixnay> hey can anyone help me install wine? I'm using a guide, but I'm having trouble understanding the directions
[10:55] <ImSoScrewed> great or not... by process of elimination, its the only hope i have left
[10:55] <crazytales> I feel like ImSoScrewed right now (at least as far as nick goes)
[10:55] <crazytales> since i do not have X at all
[10:55] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its asking for the prefix to the bin dir for Xorg
[10:55] <Feengur> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:55] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... and that would be?
[10:55] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: probably /usr/X11
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> ikonia... what OS you running? could you see what it is for yours?
[10:56] <ikonia> I'm not on ubuntu so it won't be the same
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> ok... crud
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> brb
[10:56] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its probably /usr/X11
[10:56] <nazgjunk> o.O wow this place is filled up
[10:56] <david___> hola algun espaol?
[10:56] <ImSoScrewed> I'll try it
[10:56] <Ubuntu_on_fire> can anyone help me... i cant connect to the internet through my wireless device i got the driver installed and i got the wep key and told it that it was using hex code and everything, when i select it on the icon thing on the menu (the connection stats thing, ubuntus version of windows start bar status icons... the icon with two little windows) and select my connection it says signal 80%...
[10:56] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ...then i try to go to a web site and i cant... wats the matter? i tried to install a wireless manager but i dont know how to install it from that compressed folder (.tar)
[10:56] <ikonia> !es > david_____
[10:56] <gnomefreak> david___: #ubuntu-es
[10:56] <Savage-{> phixnay: apt-get install wine
[10:56] <ikonia> !es > david____
[10:56] <nazgjunk> anyway.
[10:57] <nazgjunk> When I compiled a new kernel, i got the classic error that there was no valid block device or something like that, pretty much the default when you fail to compile the filesystem in. Thing is, I did compile the filesystem in (yes, i did.). Anything else I could have missed? Machine is a compaq armada 1750.
[10:57] <david___> thanks
[10:57] <crazytales> apparently, there's an X server issue after installing the video card
[10:57] <david___> god bye
[10:57] <ImSoScrewed> bash: export: `/usr/X11=/usr': not a valid identifier
[10:57] <ikonia> nazgjunk: the disk drivers
[10:57] <uFranky> Is there a way to see a DVB-T stream over local area network?
[10:57] <Feengur> imsoscrewed
[10:57] <crazytales> i can't live just in text mode
[10:57] <Feengur>  /etc/X11
[10:57] <ImSoScrewed> Feengur  yes?
[10:58] <ikonia> crazytales: do don't
[10:58] <Feengur> not /usr
[10:58] <ikonia> Feengur: thats the config
[10:58] <nazgjunk> ikonia, you almost made me scream, until i realised that disk != fs
[10:58] <ikonia> its asking for the bin prefix
[10:58] <ieldib> hey everybody
[10:58] <nazgjunk> few weeks of windows have dumbed me down :/
[10:58] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ????
[10:58] <ImSoScrewed> what exactly is a bin prefix?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ImSoScrewed: .bin
[10:58] <phixnay> Savage-{: yeah I wanted to do that but I have amd 64. I was able to install it, but OpenGL is linked wrong. There are instructions to fix it on the guide, but I don't understand what to do. Could you look at it? Here is the guide: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:58] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: the prefix directory before /bin for the X11 binairyes
[10:58] <ImSoScrewed> so I'm looking for xorg.bin?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: that'd be a suffix, but hey
[10:58] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: no
[10:58] <ieldib> nazgjunk, i hear that i'am taking CEN_1300 (first MCSE course)
[10:58] <ieldib> and i hate it
[10:59] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its probably /usr/X11 - try it
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ImSoScrewed: not for a config file
[10:59] <jughead> Are the performance increases worth the extra $$ for dual core athlons (X2)?  a 3700+ single core is only $90 but an X2 4400+ is $250... is it that much better?
[10:59] <ompaul> !offtopic | ieldib
[10:59] <ubotu> ieldib: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> I did try it... didn't take it
[10:59] <crazytales> ikonia: well, i don't know how to get GNOME working again. Since I'm not experienced in command line. I think it's a driver issue after I installed the video card to upgrade from integrated graphics.
[10:59] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: can you show me the error
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> yup
[10:59] <pinks02> can anyone help me sort out a gateway/route problem please? I can connect ppp to the internet and get the ISP's local and remote IP's, DNS etc, but I can't ping or browse
[10:59] <Feengur> jughead
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed>  export "/usr/X11"="/usr"
[10:59] <ImSoScrewed> bash: export: `/usr/X11=/usr': not a valid identifier
[10:59] <jughead> he Feengur
[10:59] <Feengur> 3800+ X2
[10:59] <ieldib> ubotu, sorry
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <Feengur> best bang for the buck
[11:00] <Feengur> and best for OC
[11:00] <ImSoScrewed> tried it without quotes too
[11:00] <ieldib> lol , damn bots
[11:00] <phixnay> ubuntu_on_fire: what wireless card do you have, and how did you install it?
[11:00] <ImSoScrewed> same msg
[11:00] <crazytales> My previous graphics device was an intel 845G, this is now a fx5200
[11:00] <ET-Ben> Anyone got any stuff on sorting out sound problems?
[11:00] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, install "network-manager-gnome" from synaptic. log out and log in again. you will now have a better wireless config tool in the taskbar. (only used it once and it works fine for me. but since then I've disabled wireless on this machine since I never use it)
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> !sound | ET-Ben
[11:00] <ubotu> ET-Ben: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:00] <Feengur> i'm running 7600gt but i'm stuck in 800x600 :P
[11:00] <PWizard> Greetings, all
[11:00] <Feengur> hi
[11:00] <ieldib> feengur,  card issue ?
[11:00] <jughead> Feengur, I usually get my stuff online at newegg, but the only socket 939 X2 they have listed is the 4400+
[11:00] <Feengur> nah
[11:00] <Feengur> the card is reporting correctly
[11:00] <kleinweby> hello, i have a problem with my intel hda card. see this dmesg output http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6908/  can any one help me?
[11:00] <Feengur> the xorg.conf seems to be right
[11:01] <ieldib> feengur, i have a 7600gt on the desktop i plan on installing ubuntu on as well
[11:01] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: what the hell are you doing ????
[11:01] <ieldib> can anyone help me get the cube effect going in compiz ?
[11:01] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its TELLING you what it want
[11:01] <ET-Ben> tony: Tried that - no good
[11:01] <jughead> are there other resellers that you know to be as reputable as newegg?
[11:01] <ikonia> XORG_PREFIX - not USR/X11
[11:01] <ImSoScrewed> ?
[11:01] <ieldib> I already have XGL/Compiz installed
[11:01] <phixnay> can anybody take a moment and help me understand some instructions?
[11:01] <PWizard> I dist-upgraded to edgy a while back and then took my LCD display to work; I want to turn off subpixel antialiasing now, but gnome won't cooperate.  It just stays in subpixel if I set it to grayscale.
[11:01] <ieldib> phixany, sure
[11:01] <ImSoScrewed> ok... i took it to mean I was supposed to put something in there in its place
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> jowi- where can i get it
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ?
[11:02] <ikonia> ImSoScrewed: its asking for the varible XORG_PREFIX to be set
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> and is it an rpm or a tar file?
[11:02] <ImSoScrewed> oh.. narf
[11:02] <Ubuntu_on_fire> cuz i dont know how to use tar files
[11:02] <Feengur> hmm jug
[11:02] <Feengur> that's where i got mine from :P
[11:02] <Jowi> !info network-manager-gnome
[11:02] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB
[11:02] <cappiz_> Jowi, correct syntax is !addinfo <release> <files> <size_in_mb>, fix your script
[11:02] <Feengur> but, the 4200+ is pretty good as well
[11:02] <ieldib> ubuntu_on_Fire goto applications and add/remove
[11:02] <PWizard> Has anyone seen this behavior before?  Turning AA off works fine,
[11:02] <LinTux> Ikonia: thanks m8
[11:02] <Jowi> cappiz, ?
[11:02] <phixnay> ieldib: ok. I have amd64 and I installed wine using these instructions, but OpenGL doesn't work. It has instructions on how to fix it, but I don't understand them. Here is the site: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[11:02] <Feengur> you can get comperable ops to the FX series with a little tweaking :D
[11:03] <buchanp> hey guys i installed ubuntu and now windows wont boot
[11:03] <buchanp> i get filesystem type unknown
[11:03] <phixnay> !super grub disk
[11:03] <Feengur> mwave.com
[11:03] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh
[11:03] <marlun> The unofficial ubuntu guide tells me that to remove totem firefox plugin i should do "sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin" but if I do apt-get tells me it will remove that package plus ubuntu-desktop, I don't want it to remove ubuntu-desktop too, why is it doing that, what should I do?
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so i just do to add more?
[11:03] <phixnay> d'oh
[11:03] <Ubuntu_on_fire> to add it
[11:03] <uFranky> how can i convert a compiled program to a *.deb file?
[11:03] <buchanp> !super grub disk
[11:03] <ubotu> super: Execute commands setuid root. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.1-1 (edgy), package size 122 kB, installed size 852 kB
[11:03] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, open up synaptic package manager and search for it. click to select it and click on apply. it will be automatically downloaded and installed for you.
[11:04] <cappiz> Jowi  ?
[11:04] <uFranky> !SGD
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SGD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <Jowi> cappiz, "<cappiz_> Jowi, correct syntax is !addinfo <release> <files> <size_in_mb>, fix your script" <--- not for me I guess :)
[11:04] <buchanp> anyone familiar with dual booting ubuntu and windows xp
[11:04] <phixnay> buchanp: use super grub disk http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[11:04] <kleinweby> nobody has an idea? :(
[11:04] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ohk
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> this is in ubuntu right?
[11:05] <ieldib> phixany ? what do you not understand ?
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> im on my windows boot
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> so i wanna be sure as possible
[11:05] <ieldib> you are basically copying and pasting into a terminal
[11:05] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, yes, of course in ubuntu
[11:05] <humbolto> flashplugin-nonfree installer package does not work any more in edgy. at least not with the de_AT local!
[11:05] <humbolto> What can I do?
[11:05] <cappiz> ah lol
[11:05] <humbolto> When the installer downloads the file, where does it put it?
[11:05] <phixnay> ieldib: how do I remove the symbolic links? just like it says
[11:05] <cappiz> sorry :
[11:05] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh one thing
[11:05] <cappiz> my other bnc shait
[11:05] <ImSoScrewed> still not goin right.... grrrrr
[11:06] <humbolto> I want to put it in the same location.
[11:06] <LinTux> ok, I have eventually managed to completely get rid of KDE, now I need to completely uninstall XFCE4, how do I do this?
[11:06] <cole> hello
[11:06] <Ubuntu_on_fire> if its downloaded and i have no internet connection then how will it download?
[11:06] <humbolto> because choosing the directory where you downloaded it by hand, does not work either.
[11:06] <cole> how do you turn a tar.bz2 file into a deb filed?
[11:06] <eternaljoy> whats a good way to check for virus on Ubuntu?
[11:06] <phixnay> ieldib: I don't know which directory I'm supposed to be in, and I don't know how to do this "LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure"
[11:06] <eternaljoy> .clear
[11:06] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:07] <ieldib> phixany ln -sf /usr/lib /usr/lib64
[11:07] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, it will get it from the installation cd if you insert it after ubuntu has booted
[11:07] <buchanp> i did grub disk and it put me to a grub prompt ?
[11:07] <marlun> When apt-get say it will remove ubuntu-desktop does it mean it will remove all packages that is connected to ubuntu-desktop or just that the ubuntu-desktop package won't be complete if I remove totem?
[11:07] <Jowi> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:07] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[11:07] <cafuego_> marlun: the latter
[11:07] <apokryphos> more info in the FAQ
[11:08] <LinTux> how do I completely uninstall XFCE4
[11:08] <phixnay> ieldib: ok, doing that
[11:08] <marlun> ok, thanks! =)
[11:08] <dtvarnum> anyone in Seattle?
[11:08] <vray> question: could someone please point me in the direction of a dynamic IP updating program that a) works with 6.10, b) works from a NATted box and c) is compatible with dhs.org's dynamic IP service?    ...dhs.org's own list is woefuly out of date.
[11:08] <phixnay> ieldib: it needs sudo... k I did it, now what?
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i am in live session now, and installing ubuntu the only way i got it to install was to disable the dual core in bios. now afterubuntu is installed what will happen if i enable dual core ?
[11:09] <bimberi> vray: ez-ipupdate claims to work with dhs.org
[11:09] <humblerodent> On a fresh Edgy install, any attempt to install/configure software packages using dpkg or apt-get results in a hard system crash (nothing responds whatsoever, and a cold system turn-off/reboot is required).  It works perfectly fine as long as I don't install/configure any software packages.  Can anyone help me?  TIA
[11:10] <Ubuntu_on_fire> is it right to be a 247kb dec file?
[11:10] <Ubuntu_on_fire> deb*
[11:11] <Jowi> Ubuntu_on_fire, sounds about right
[11:11] <blaze_> Hey all
[11:12] <Dreamglider> i am in live session now, and installing ubuntu the only way i got it to install was to disable the dual core in bios. now after ubuntu is installed what will happen if i enable dual core ? help
[11:12] <Dreamglider> -help
[11:13] <LinTux> I used apt-get to remove XFCE4, but I still have it in the session selection?
[11:13] <crazytales> okay
[11:13] <heiko> with feisty, how do i give a user the rights to run stuff with realtime permissions?
[11:13] <crazytales> so how do i get dapper to recognise my fx5200
[11:13] <Ubuntu_on_fire> dreamglider - enable it, sometimes linux cant use thing on live boot, if it doesnt work then disable it and try again
[11:13] <crazytales> starting it up after the fx5200 is installed
[11:13] <Jowi> LinTux, "xfce4" is a metapackage for xfce so that sounds right
[11:13] <Ubuntu_on_fire> things*
[11:13] <crazytales> only gets me textmode
[11:14] <ciagin> dreamglider try to activate multiple cpu support in the kernel
[11:14] <adaptr> !nvidia | crazytales
[11:14] <ubotu> crazytales: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <Ubuntu_on_fire> er..... or that
[11:14] <crazytales> things like this make me wonder why i ever switch to linux
[11:14] <Dreamglider> i neeeed help with that
[11:14] <LinTux> Jowi: how can I completely unistall XFCE & XFCE4?
[11:14] <ImSoScrewed> getting this error now... any help?    ./configure $XORG_CONFIG --with-xorg-module-dir=$XORG_PREFIX/lib/X11/modules
[11:14] <ImSoScrewed> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[11:14] <adaptr> Dreamglider: as I said before, you most likely need a custom kernel that can handle the core Duo
[11:15] <Jowi> LinTux, to see which packages "xfce4" has installed type in a terminal "apt-cache show xfce4"
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> whats the name of this dock for linux and where do i download it
[11:15] <adaptr> ImSoScrewed: and you're doing this why ?
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9waEFF57Y8
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i think its kiba-dock
[11:15] <ImSoScrewed> because i need tv-out
[11:15] <Amerision> Anyone well versed on fixing the Hal problem?
[11:15] <Ubuntu_on_fire> but where do i download it
[11:16] <phixna1> ieldib: sorry, my internet crashed. what am I supposed to do after sudo ln -sf /usr/lib /usr/lib64 ?
[11:16] <Jowi> LinTux, after that's done just select the packages for removal in synaptic
[11:16] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: you *think* ? bleh
[11:16] <adaptr> ImSoScrewed: TV out on what hardware ?
[11:16] <user-land> Hi, my Xorg consistently uses some 40% CPU on my AMD 64 3500+.
[11:16] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok im pritty sure it is
[11:17] <Ubuntu_on_fire> but where do i download it
[11:17] <adaptr> user-land: what video driver ?
[11:17] <user-land> running Ubuntu 6.10
[11:17] <ImSoScrewed> adaptr  radeon 9250
[11:17] <adaptr> !kiba
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <user-land> adaptr, nothing fancy as far as i know.
[11:17] <ciagin> hi everybody, i've got a little problem with my webcam, it worx but it doesn't switch off after booting like it did before upgrading to 6.10
[11:17] <adaptr> user-land: what video hardware ?
[11:17] <Amerision> I get the Hal.dll error on Win's startup when i installed Ubuntu  - changes in the boot.ini don't seem to work
[11:17] <asdx> where is ruby gems in ubuntu?
[11:17] <ciagin> i'm using quickcam communicate stx
[11:18] <phixna1> ieldib: are you still there?
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> anyone know how/where to download it
[11:18] <user-land> adaptr: GraphicsCard: Asus EN7600GS SILENT/HTD, GeForce 7600GS, 512MB, passive cooling
[11:18] <vray> bimberi: thank you - i noticed at http://ez-ipupdate.com/userdoc.php that this program has no way of detecting a new IP if it's not on the gateway machine, which would be my situation. unfortunately, this site seems quite old and the rest of the commentary on this topic is unavailable. do you have any insight on this issue?
[11:18] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: too lazy to google ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i did
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> b ut couldnt find anyhting
[11:18] <adaptr> user-land: and you don't run the nvidia binary, I suppose
[11:18] <adaptr> Ubuntu_on_fire: then you're a retard :)
[11:18] <LinTux> Jowi: Cheers m8, all gone now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:18] <user-land> adaptr, i would need to check, but how ?
[11:18] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ive been here
[11:19] <Jowi> np LinTux
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i couldnt find where to download it
[11:19] <adaptr> user-land: if you don't *know*, then you're not using the binaries.. believe me
[11:19] <bimberi> vray: sorry, no.  I was just aware of its existence but aren't a user
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> i got this AMD64 file
[11:19] <adaptr> !nvidia | user-land
[11:19] <ubotu> user-land: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> or sumthing like that
[11:19] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:19] <stia1> \nick stian\thesis
[11:19] <stia1> eh
[11:19] <user-land> would you recommend installing it, adaptr ?
[11:19] <Ubuntu_on_fire> oh and in the boxes it says code does that mean the stuff i type in on the terminal
[11:20] <Ubuntu_on_fire> sorry im new to linux and all this is very confusing
[11:20] <phixna1> ubuntu_on_fire: yeah you copy that directly into the terminal
[11:20] <verma> 3c59x is a bitch
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu_on_fire: yes
[11:20] <adaptr> user-land: if you don't install it you wil lnever get to see beryl :)
[11:20] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> cool
[11:21] <phixna1> ubuntu_on_fire: one line at a time though
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ok
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> ill make sure i do
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu_on_fire: dont type anything with a # at the start of a line if there is any
[11:21] <bitchslapper> any ideas how I can go about installing a 3c59x?
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> u mean i should only type if theres that $?
[11:21] <Ubuntu_on_fire> or on the code itself
[11:22] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:22] <bitchslapper> its such an old chipset, and still the support for it is shaddy
[11:22] <adaptr> user-land: having a kick-ass nvidia card and NOT using the hardware drivers would be just as much fun as putting in a PCI video card
[11:22] <anderbubble_> I'm trying to reinstall Xubuntu on a laptop with a PCMCIA cd-rom. The drive worked in all previous versions (and in debian), and works on the installed Xubuntu 6.10 already on the laptop, but the installer can't see it. Can someone help me?
[11:23] <ImSoScrewed> I am so screwed
[11:23] <user-land> thanks, adaptr.
[11:23] <phixna1> Ubuntu_on_fire: the $ means you can use commands as a user, which is what you want to do
[11:23] <phixna1> if you see a line of code that looks like this #codecodeblahblahblah it normally means that it's a comment and you don't need to put it in
[11:23] <[dot] Al> how do I save the sudoers file using visudo?
[11:24] <adaptr> [dot] Al: erm.. save it ? ESC, :w
[11:25] <roho> !help
[11:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:25] <hairulfr> Hi all, anyone know where you set up the passkey for Bluetooth? I haven't set any password, I can send/receive, but not connect - is there a bluetooth manager of sorts?
[11:25] <crazytales> '
[11:25] <[dot] Al> adaptr, that doesnt do anything, is ESC supposed to make any symbols shows up?
[11:25] <crazytales> okay
[11:25] <Okiesmokie> does Ubuntu 6.06 LTS not come with gcc or something?
[11:25] <crazytales> i installed the nvidia drivers
[11:25] <crazytales> i am still in text mode
[11:25] <phixna1> hey everyone, I'm trying to install wine from source (cause I'm on Edgy 64) and the guide tells me to do this: "LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure"
[11:25] <crazytales> what gives.
[11:25] <adaptr> [dot] Al: no, it is supposed to return you to the vi command line
[11:25] <phixna1> is this a regular command that I can just put into the terminal?
[11:25] <hairulfr> !bluetooth
[11:25] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:26] <blaze_> !eye candy
[11:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:26] <crazytales> !nvidia
[11:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:26] <Dreamglider> Ok i cannot boot with dual core, how do i get a kernel that will boot duo ?
[11:26] <phaidros> is there an virtualization irc ??
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> hmm
[11:26] <phaidros>  ubuntu edgy with xen and vserver ??
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> !nforce
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <Okiesmokie> :(
[11:26] <roho> !webmin
[11:26] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[11:26] <roho> why should webmin not be used?
[11:27] <roho> manipulating iptables rules can be difficult - it's easier with webmin
[11:27] <ShadowX> how do I run eterm once its installed?
[11:27] <ubuntubr> a
[11:28] <shadowhywind> anyone around that could help me with a resolution problem. It keeps defaulting to my laptop screen resolution, and not my external resolution, even after setting the correct size in xorg.conf
[11:28] <arash_> webmin is really useful in some cases
[11:28] <roho> ShadowX: i think just Eterm
[11:28] <LinTux> anybody know how to get Edgy EFT to see my Nvidia 700LE video card
[11:28] <Eroick> If I install VMware, can I use a Firewire audio device that isnt supported on linux
[11:28] <Eroick> ??
[11:28] <roho> arash_: i just want to know why it's not supported and why they want you to avoid using it
[11:28] <ShadowX> THANKS DUDE
[11:28] <buchanp> exit
[11:28] <[dot] Al> still doesnt work
[11:28] <ShadowX> I figured it was "eterm"
[11:28] <arash_> webmin?!
[11:28] <ShadowX> ugh, the only bad part of case-sensitivity :P
[11:29] <roho> yes, webmin
[11:29] <arash_> donno, i like it
[11:29] <LinTux> Where can I download a driver for Nvidia 7300LE
[11:29] <arash_> anyway you can dl it from upstream
[11:30] <AndrewB> LinTux: off the nvidia site?
[11:30] <turbolover> hm
[11:30] <turbolover> i think i killed x
[11:30] <roho> well, the thing that angered me was that when i updated apt packages, it not only removed webmin, it left my firewall rules empty, without telling me and without any other suggestion
[11:30] <turbolover> err... i did
[11:30] <roho> i don't have time to learn how to use iptables yet
[11:30] <LinTux> tried that, I cannot get to grips with the install procedure
[11:30] <roho> i will, but i needed something in the interim
[11:30] <phaidros> anybody xen and vserver on edgy?
[11:31] <joshy> phaidros: i have tryed, but it don't work
[11:31] <arash_> you mean you did a apt-get update and it removed webmin?!
[11:31] <edion> i need help
[11:31] <livingdaylight> anyone know how to use dvd: :rip?
[11:31] <phaidros> josh_, hm I try since hours to find a way to patch a kernel, that it is domU and can hadnle vservers ..
[11:31] <phaidros> how did u try?
[11:31] <hagabaka> does apt-get keep a log of upgrades?
[11:32] <edion> anyone who can help me  with an x problem
[11:32] <phaidros> edion, tell your problem
[11:32] <turbolover> grr x crashes now
[11:32] <phaidros> hagabaka, there is a limit somewhere
[11:32] <bimberi> hagabaka: dpkg (which is used by apt-get) keeps a log at /var/log/dpkg.log
[11:32] <joshy> phaidros: I don't have to patch a kernel, because i've an core2 duo
[11:32] <turbolover> i didnt even do anything that i know of
[11:32] <a2k>
[11:32] <Okiesmokie> Do you need an active connection to the internet to use apt-get?
[11:32] <a2k>   mlterm  )
[11:32] <phaidros> hagabaka, sorry, just read wrong, thought u ask for archives ;)
[11:32] <hagabaka> thanks
[11:33] <edion> phaidros i want to change resolution and after i configed xorg.conf my keyboard toped working so i can nolonger log in to x the numpad is work but no letterkeys
[11:33] <bimberi> Okiesmokie: yes, unless the files are stored on local media
[11:33] <phaidros> josh_, what exactly did you do trying to run xen with vserver?
[11:33] <turbolover> yes! i love nuking my OS
[11:33] <fro> hi there
[11:33] <turbolover> its fun
[11:33] <phaidros> edion, uh, thats one I don't know, sorry
[11:33] <fro> can smb tell me how to use apt to install Wine from specified repo???
[11:34] <Okiesmokie> It's quite the paradox then, I need gcc to build my network drivers, but I can't use apt-get to get gcc?
[11:34] <adaptr> did you add the repo ?
[11:34] <arash_> anyone usin vaio
[11:34] <adaptr> Okiesmokie: of course you can - download the deb files anywhere and put them in /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:34] <arash_> i have got a problem with mouse pad?
[11:34] <adaptr> arash_: only you know that
[11:34] <user-land> adaptr, enabling nvidia-glx-config says unable to load nvidia driver for your running kernel
[11:35] <godtvisken> How do I find out the UUID of a disc?
[11:35] <adaptr> user-land: yes, you need to load the nvidia module first
[11:35] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen and vserver?
[11:35] <adaptr> godtvisken: cat /etc/fstab
[11:35] <edion> anyone that have heard of my problem
[11:35] <phaedrus_>   fluxbuntu = the best!    i have xchat, vlc playing audio cd, bluefish, firefox and gaim all going smoothly right now on this machine!
[11:35] <phaedrus_> Computer: phaedrus-pii | Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 "dapper" | Processor: 334.14Mhz | Model: Pentium II (Deschutes) | Memory: 250MB Free: 84MB []  | Diskspace: 1.80GB Free: 0.67GB | Video: nVidia NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  @ 1024x768 (24 bpp) | Net: Down: 28.27MB Up: 5.33MB
[11:35] <hairulfr> Anyone know anything about bluetooth?
[11:35] <godtvisken> adaptr: I need to edit that file manually, because the UUIDs changed
[11:35] <phaidros> phaedrus_, cool nick :)
[11:35] <bimberi> !uuid | godtvisken
[11:35] <phaedrus_> hehe
[11:35] <ubotu> godtvisken: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:35] <phaedrus_> thanks
[11:35] <fro> adaptr yes - gives me some error : http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz:
[11:35] <phaedrus_> u2
[11:36] <roho> phaedrus_: what command did you use there?
[11:36] <fro> Sub-process gzip returned
[11:36] <roho> that uber-uname?
[11:36] <phaedrus_> i used  /sysinfo
[11:36] <phaedrus_> its a python doodad
[11:36] <roho> cool
[11:36] <edion> anyone that can help me?
[11:36] <roho> for xchat i take it
[11:36] <phaidros> nice
[11:36] <phaedrus_> yah!
[11:36] <user-land> adaptr, in synaptic ?
[11:36] <adaptr> godtvisken: tune2fs
[11:36] <pianoboy3333> How can I record what's coming out of my speakers, so record my audio output?
[11:36] <phaidros> edion, keyboard works in console?
[11:36] <godtvisken> bimberi: thanks
[11:37] <adaptr> user-land: yes, install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel
[11:37] <phaedrus_> ok...back to work
[11:37] <edion> phaidros yes
[11:37] <phaidros> edion, notebook?
[11:37] <bimberi> godtvisken: yw :)
[11:37] <roho> i wish i could have an irc client with the look of xchat but with the functionality/command structure of bitchx
[11:37] <edion> phaidros no
[11:37] <phaidros> hm ..
[11:37] <phixna1> hey everyone, I try to build wine from source (I have edgy 64) but it says
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: Wine will be build without OpenGL or Direct3D support
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: because something is wrong with the OpenGL setup:
[11:37] <phixna1> configure: WARNING: No OpenGL development headers were found
[11:37] <phaidros> phixna1, try #wine
[11:37] <phixna1> thanks
[11:38] <phaidros> phixna1, wait
[11:38] <Bols> Hi - does someone know a way to recover all the gpg keys of my repositories, cause I lost them all and apt-get doesn't work anymore?
[11:38] <humbolto> how can I prohibit my xclient users from hibernating the server via gui which shows up on hitting logout which shows "hibernate and suspend"?
[11:38] <user-land> installed there are: linux-restricted-modules-generic and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic, adaptr.
[11:38] <edion> phaidros i can let you ssh in to the box if you want to
[11:38] <bimberi> actually its #winehq
[11:38] <phixna1> phaidros: yeah, no one's in #wine
[11:38] <phixna1> thanks
[11:38] <adaptr> user-land: then you need to load it: sudo modprobe nvidia
[11:39] <roho> !pidentd
[11:39] <ubotu> pidentd: TCP/IP IDENT protocol server with DES support. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19.ds1-1 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 140 kB
[11:39] <bimberi> Bols: try a 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:39] <phaidros> phixna1, try to find opengl related -dev packages in synaptic
[11:39] <shadowhywind> ok weridness, my login is fine (1680x1050) but when i log in it switches to 1024x768 any ideas?
[11:39] <hagabaka> could anyone confirm that in wine 0.9.29, locale specified in LANG (LANG=... wine program.exe) is ignored, while in 0.9.22, it is supported?
[11:39] <phaidros> phixnal, wine needs the opengl headers to compile
[11:39] <phaidros> edion, no time for that sorry
[11:39] <user-land> adaptr, that replies: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:39] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to install Edgy (6.10) with a software RAID setup.  I used the Alternate install CD to partition both 2 drives and configure a software RAID.  First, I made /boot, /, and /home RAID0, and everything went along fine until the reboot part of the installation.  Upon reboot, the GRUB menu came up but it couldn't seem to find the kernel.  It said something about error 17 I think.
[11:40] <smartman> hi guys how are you
[11:40] <Bols> bimberi, already tried but it doesn't work... I get this: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com ...
[11:40] <phaidros> hi smartman
[11:40] <bimberi> Bols: put the whole message on a pastebin
[11:40] <unperson> I also went through the install again and tried making boot just a plain ext2 parition on one of the disks thinking that was the problem.  Still no dice.  This time the kernel seems to load but then it says it can't find /bin/sh.
[11:41] <runehunter> hey guys i just insalled ubuntu breezy on my box and during the install i used root as my name and at the loginscreen i cannot login to the system
[11:41] <edion> phaidros is there anyway that i can reset all settings and that way make it work again
[11:41] <unperson> Is it not possible to use a software RAID partition for /?
[11:41] <kritzstapf> hi, using windows xp to print on a samba-shared cups printer takes about 5 minutes, any ideas?
[11:42] <Bols> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2476/
[11:42] <phaidros> bimberi, go here http://l18a.de/~phaidros/apt/ and try mine
[11:42] <unperson> This page seemed to suggest it was: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[11:42] <phaidros> bimberi, put into /etc/apt/
[11:43] <phaidros> should work for edgy
[11:43] <adaptr> user-land: the howto explains all this; you have to edit xorg.conf first
[11:43] <bimberi> phaidros: you probably mean Bols :)
[11:43] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver ?
[11:43] <phaidros> bimberi, tre
[11:43] <phaidros> bimberi, true
[11:44] <phaidros> Bols,  go here http://l18a.de/~phaidros/apt/ and try mine
[11:44] <runehunter> hey guys i just insalled ubuntu breezy on my box and during the install i used root as my name and at the loginscreen i cannot login to the system
[11:44] <adaptr> unperson: raid-what ? mirroring is no problem
[11:44] <phaidros> should work for edgy
[11:44] <unperson> Er, sorry, I mean to say that the error given during boot is "/bin/sh: can't find tty"
[11:44] <phaidros> runehunter, why breezer?
[11:44] <unperson> adaptr, RAID0.
[11:44] <adaptr> unperson: you don't value your data very much ?
[11:44] <unperson> adaptr, The stuff on the root partition?  No.
[11:44] <phaidros> runehunter, can you log into terminal?
[11:45] <blueprints88888> anyone know a bit about VMware?
[11:45] <adaptr> you'll have to create a separate /boot partition
[11:45] <runehunter> phairros: im setting up a ruby on rails server and the tut i have is for breezy
[11:45] <unperson> adaptr, Up until now, reinstalling that has generally been a breeze.
[11:45] <zeembo> hi all
[11:45] <user-land> adaptr, i followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and editing xorg.conf is not mentioned there so far.
[11:45] <adaptr> user-land: that's odd - let me check
[11:45] <ikonia> user-land: is because it uses dpkg to enable the nvidia driver for you
[11:45] <phaidros> runehunter, .. nope .. go for an up-to-date distro .. breezer is not recommended anymore ..
[11:45] <user-land> only for removing the logotype.
[11:45] <ikonia> but it doesn't always work
[11:45] <zeembo> i'm trying to set up samba on ubuntu server and i can see my computer on the network, but cannot access it "no permission"
[11:45] <ikonia> this is covered in the wiki
[11:46] <phaidros> runehunter, should work analogue on dapper also ..
[11:46] <bimberi> Bols: I wouldn't load someone elses keys just yet.  I'm seeing if there's a way to regenerate them
[11:46] <edion> can i roleback drivers in ubuntu
[11:46] <unperson> adaptr, Right, so like I said,  went back and re-did the install using a plain old (non-RAID) ext2 partition for /boot.  That's when I got "/bin/sh: can't find tty"
[11:46] <runehunter> phairros: idk if i can when i was using the installer off the live cd for my name and stuff i used root but at the ubuntu loginscreen it says the admin cannot login, but i didn't setup another name to login with
[11:47] <adaptr> unperson: because the initrd is not mounting the raid0 root partition...
[11:47] <Bols> bimberi, ok ty.. I can always delete it if you find another way to regenerate them
[11:47] <phaidros> Bols, its just standard keys of ubuntu edgy plus some other repositories. open it with seahorse and choose the keys you need ..
[11:47] <phaidros> bols, or get the keys at the certain servers, they are there and you can import them using apt-key
[11:48] <Bols> phaidros, yes but I don't find them :/
[11:48] <user-land> adaptr, i used the wrong command line for edgy.
[11:48] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I can record my audio output with audacity?   Any idea how I fix this?
[11:49] <user-land> adaptr, can i update the instructions, it should fork before telling what line to use.
[11:49] <Bols> phaidros, thanks.. your file did the job, apt-get is working now ;)
[11:49] <phaidros> Bols, :) np
[11:50] <adaptr> user-land: why? it is very clear - just not too up-to-date, seeing as Edgy is the default version now
[11:50] <ImNotScrewedAnym> yay
[11:50] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver?
[11:50] <bimberi> Bols: hm, not much that I can find. Glad to see you're working though.
[11:50] <adaptr> unperson: your boot image needs to have the mdraid and any other drivers needed for raid0, and mdraid initialised, before mounting root
[11:50] <user-land> it should not say: type this without differentiating what version you run first, adaptr.
[11:50] <ImNotScrewedAnym> it is finally working correctly
[11:51] <cappiz> anyone knows if i can make ubuntu scan for hardware and setup the system like it does from the live cd installer?
[11:51] <llindy> I need the command pls to run a logitech cam, someone gave it to me b4, said that you have to run it every time you boot?
[11:51] <adaptr> user-land: the very next line after that clearly says: IF you are running Edgy, type this instead
[11:51] <cappiz> inside an ubuntu installation ?
[11:51] <ImNotScrewedAnym> how does one go about adding pages to ubotu?
[11:51] <bimberi> ImNotScrewedAnym: we could tell by your new nick ;)
[11:51] <user-land> yes, adaptr, it says it one line too late.
[11:51] <adaptr> user-land: anybody who cannot scan more than one line at a time really shouldn't be allowed to install an OS :)
[11:52] <adaptr> user-land: complain to the maintainers, though - not me
[11:52] <user-land> adaptr, step by step is not bad when dealing with computers.
[11:52] <bimberi> ImNotScrewedAnym: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots should have information
[11:52] <user-land> thanks, adaptr.
[11:52] <adaptr> user-land: that's not the only thing I find issue with - it says early on that you only need it when you want 3D hardware acceleration
[11:53] <godtvisken> Is there another way to the find the UUID of a drive without blkid? I cannot mount the drive (which blkid seems to require)
[11:53] <unperson> adaptr, I don't suppose you can suggest some places I might look up how to do that?
[11:53] <cappiz> anyone?
[11:53] <adaptr> user-land: and that is the worst sort of nonsense - the binary nvidia drivers also speed up your normal 2D desktop by about 300% *to start with*
[11:53] <ImNotScrewedAnym> bimberi  thanx... the guide I used should be added to him
[11:53] <Bols> bimberi, I tried this: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --allow-unauthenticated" but it didn't seem to work
[11:53] <adaptr> godtvisken: as I said before - tune2fs
[11:53] <phaidros> cappiz, dont understand what you want to do
[11:53] <adaptr> !mdraid | unperson
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdraid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:54] <adaptr> shitty botty :)
[11:54] <cappiz> i installed my system via debootstrap, into a usb thumbdrive
[11:54] <phaidros> anybody ubuntu with xen & vserver?
[11:54] <cappiz> and there is things im missing
[11:54] <adaptr> unperson: teh Intarweb, I'd say :) key words: mdraid, ubuntu, and raidtab
[11:54] <cappiz> wich the livecd installer would configure correctly for me.
[11:54] <user-land> wow, adaptr, unfortunately Canonical has a fixation with open source ...
[11:55] <cappiz> phaidros,  and i dont know what im missing.
[11:55] <adaptr> user-land: and ?
[11:55] <eternaljoy> can I installed ubuntu on my macbook?
[11:55] <user-land> so they don't want people to use the nvidia driver, adaptr ?
[11:55] <adaptr> user-land: they have no say in what I do or do not use
[11:55] <Dreamglider> how do i get a kernel that works with intel centrino duo ?
[11:55] <godtvisken> adaptr: but i don't want to change anything, just see what it already is
[11:56] <phaidros> cappiz, now i understood. i would recommend look into live-cd or knoppix, there is a script for that ..
[11:56] <Math^> hello, can someone help me installing vmware-server?
[11:56] <adaptr> user-land: all they can do is forbid the inclusion of restricted software in the stock install
[11:56] <ikonia> Math^: whats the problem
[11:56] <adaptr> godtvisken: what are you talking about ?
[11:56] <cappiz> phaidros,  what do you mean :) ?
[11:56] <Math^> the vmware-server installer says: there is an other one installed
[11:56] <ikonia> Math^: is there ?
[11:56] <edion> how do i reinstall unbuntu withoute instaling a newone beside the old one
[11:56] <ikonia> edion: what ?
[11:56] <phaidros> cappiz, or copy a live-cd image to the hdd, boot it use it and let it detect hardware at every boot ..
[11:56] <Math^> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:57] <phaidros> cappiz, or what is it you want to do?
[11:57] <Math^> but I removed all of it
[11:57] <godtvisken> adaptr: i just want to /see/ the UUID of a drive, not change it. reading the man for tune2fs, it seems that this is for changing things
[11:57] <ikonia> Math^: double check
[11:57] <adaptr> godtvisken: tune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep UUID <-- doesn't care if its mounted or not
[11:57] <edion> if i want to reinstall ubuntu can i just install it then or do i need to do somthing first
[11:57] <adaptr> godtvisken: do first, complain later
[11:57] <Jaymottz22> litheum: U here?
[11:57] <phaidros> Math^, apt-get remove  with --purge ?
[11:57] <ikonia> just install it to the same partition
[11:57] <edion> ok
[11:57] <Math^> ikonia, when I'm in synaptec and search for vmware, nothing is installed
[11:57] <phaidros> Math^, whats says locate VMWare or such?
[11:58] <gecko> hey.. none of my programs are showing up in system tray... how come?
[11:58] <cappiz> phaidros, i got a running system allready
[11:58] <ikonia> Math^: check it with dpkg -l | grep -i vmware
[11:58] <gecko> they worked yesterday
[11:58] <phaidros> Math^, don't trust synaptic too much ..
[11:58] <phaidros> cappiz, then boot a live-cd/knoppix and look how they do the hardware detection .. copy it for your needs :)
[11:58] <cappiz> on my usb thumbdrive, the thing now is that since the install didnt use the livecd hardware scanning utility... my system lacks something
[11:58] <gramaje> buenas noxes
[11:58] <phaidros> cappiz, must be a script in /etc/init.d/