[03:39] <JamesGoddard> hey, quick question - i currently run ubuntu and windows on the same hard drive ... is it possible to kill my windows partition and resize the ubuntu partition so that the drive is completely ubuntu?
[03:40] <sethk> imperfect-, what do you mean?  you have a display that isn't showing any colors????
[03:40] <jmerlin> i can't get anything to print though so yeah..
[03:40] <holycow> james absolutely
[03:40] <jmerlin> lexmark has a package for redhat
[03:40] <ericmoritz\0> lastnode, I haven't used to long enough to corrupt data. i.e., I mounted something, thought, hmm, that's nice, but too complicated and unmounted
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, you can, but it's less risky to just make another partition out of the windows space
[03:40] <JamesGoddard> (without losing my ubuntu data)
[03:40] <str47> yo
[03:40] <holycow> james boot into the live cd, start up gparted, delete your xp partition
[03:40] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: what printer?
[03:40] <StAfZe6> hello
[03:40] <StAfZe6> secret
[03:40] <holycow> and resize ubuntu
[03:40] <jmerlin> lexmark z35
[03:40] <lastnode> ericmoritz\0, ok :-)
[03:40] <str47> confidential
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, if you resize partitions, carefully back up everything
[03:40] <holycow> simple and guiriffic
[03:40] <JamesGoddard> seth: hmm yeah, good idea
[03:40] <jmerlin> it extracts .rpm files
[03:40] <david__> can i set xwindows to log out after a certain amount of time?
[03:40] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the main .rpm file
[03:40] <sethk> JamesGoddard, creating a new partition in the windows spot and mounting it is just as good, really.
[03:40] <jmerlin> and installed the deb package
[03:40] <holycow> JamesGoddard, just make sure you backup /home, you NEVER know ... shit happens.  you don't want to have a power outage during a resize for example
[03:41] <qatsi> sethk: yes, i think so :)...well, too muchfor today :) i really thank you for your help :), also you deltab :)...you saved at least 100 linux users :P ill post the code, and the research in the ubuntuforums :)
[03:41] <jmerlin> and it let me choose the driver in my printer configuration thingy when i added a new printer
[03:41] <jmerlin> but it doesn't print anything when i go to print
[03:41] <ericmoritz\0> lastnode, I guess it corruption depends on the fuse module
[03:41] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: I tried alienning the redhat rpms for my colour laser Lexmark printer. It didn't work, to put it mildly. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81645
[03:41] <ArrenLex> Have you seen that?
[03:41] <sethk> alien is always an adventure; that's why you'll see so many precautions and disclaimers in the docs for it
[03:41] <JamesGoddard> sweet, thanks all
[03:42] <qatsi> Good night everybody :)
[03:42] <jmerlin> no
[03:42] <jmerlin> does that work?
[03:42] <fgh_lo> TheHighChild: what about no-ip.com? i already have an acct w/ them. can i point the domain i own to no-ip?
[03:42] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: hell if I know. It was just the first thing google found.
[03:42] <jmerlin> lol
[03:42] <jmerlin> that's basically what i did..
[03:43] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the .rpm
[03:43] <jmerlin> then double-clicked on the .deb
[03:43] <holycow> jmerlin, what printer?
[03:43] <ArrenLex> holycow: z35
[03:43] <holycow> did you check on linuxprinting.org for printer support?
[03:43] <jmerlin> lexmark z25
[03:43] <jmerlin> z25-z35
[03:43] <ArrenLex> Same thing.
[03:43] <jmerlin> yes i did
[03:43] <jmerlin> they don't have lexmarks.
[03:43] <jmerlin> lexmark's site has one for redhat
[03:43] <jmerlin> i alien'ed the rpms
[03:43] <holycow> uh ... *hnmmm* actually lexmarks are known to work
[03:44] <jmerlin> and then installed the debs.. but even after configuring a new printer with the installed driver it doesn't print
[03:44] <jmerlin> so i dont know
[03:44] <holycow> http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Z35
[03:44] <holycow> ah
[03:44] <holycow> forget it
[03:44] <holycow> you need a new printer
[03:44] <holycow> btw... yo umight be interested in brother printers and multifunction units
[03:45] <holycow> not only do they have linux drivers
[03:45] <holycow> they have debian installers
[03:45] <holycow> and
[03:45] <holycow> their drivers are gpl
[03:45] <ArrenLex> holycow: he doesn't seem to need a new printer. He seems to need a binary driver.
[03:45] <holycow> we are testing them here actually
[03:45] <jsleeper> dumb question - in command line how can i see if a certain package is installed?
[03:45] <jmerlin> if i call lexmark they may be able to get it running
[03:45] <dave___> how do I get apt-get to just download the file without installing ?
[03:45] <jmerlin> they offer linux binaries on their site
[03:45] <jsleeper> i'm still learning apt - used to portage
[03:45] <dave___> i need the .deb files to bring over to another computer
[03:45] <jmerlin> so they should go through setting it up with me on a debian system
[03:45] <holycow> ArrenLex, i'm aware of that ... i'm simply suggesting its cheaper to buy a new printer than it is to spend 4 days figuring out its a paperweight
[03:46] <holycow> we are talking about $100 printers
[03:46] <slop> what does == mean in python?
[03:46] <holycow> not 5000$ printers
[03:46] <jmerlin> i don't have money for a new printer
[03:46] <madewokherd> slop: equal value
[03:46] <jmerlin> i'm a student living in an apartment working part time
[03:46] <slop> madewokherd, thanks
[03:46] <jmerlin> money is rare.
[03:46] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: have you seen this? http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:337:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1242&searchLang=en&searchLang=en
[03:46] <jmerlin> yes
[03:46] <wickedpuppy> slop, really ... this is #ubuntu ... and == is comparison see if the two vales are the same
[03:46] <jstarcher> hey guys
[03:47] <Djuuss> then its time to print at college (hope im not bumping in)
[03:47] <holycow> jmerlin, *nod* i understand completely.  i wish i could help i don't know how to help with printers known not to work :/
[03:47] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: what happened to that?
[03:47] <jmerlin> doesn't work
[03:47] <holycow> i think we had some z75's or something for a while but those all  basically died
[03:47] <slop> wickedpuppy, i know this is #ubuntu
[03:47] <fgh_lo> i already own a domain and i have a dynamic ip. how can i point that domain to my ip? dns?
[03:47] <holycow> so we dropped the brand
[03:47] <jmerlin> the listed OS's work fine, they've been tested on
[03:47] <jmerlin> but on debian.. nope
[03:47] <jmerlin> no support =\
[03:47] <wickedpuppy> slop, then pls ask python questions in #python next time
[03:48] <ArrenLex> jmerlin: not supported does not mean does not work.
[03:48] <Madpilot> fgh_lo, didn't you ask that question - and get an answer - about half an hour ago?
[03:48] <slop> wickedpuppy, i didn't know there was a #python.  thanks :)
[03:48] <Djuuss> Hey im running 5.04 right now, what did i have to type again to upgrade the distro?
[03:48] <jmerlin> means it will take manual installation and manual conf editing to make it work
[03:48] <jmerlin> lol
[03:48] <Djuuss> apt-get distupgrade iirc?
[03:48] <jmerlin> if i can get it to work though, i can make a .deb file and put it up on the multiverse
[03:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Djuuss about upgrade
[03:48] <jmerlin> so people can just apt-get it and be happy
[03:48] <Djuuss> thx madpilot
[03:48] <fgh_lo> Madpilot: i want to know if i can setup my own dns that will point my ip to my domain
[03:49] <jmerlin> hmm..
[03:49] <jmerlin> this is weird
[03:49] <CVirus> Anybody managed to get the Wireless Broadcom 4311 chipset working with Linux ?
[03:49] <jmerlin> the print jobs went through to the job queue
[03:49] <jmerlin> i can see them
[03:49] <jmerlin> but they say "stopped"
[03:50] <Madpilot> jmerlin, please stop using your Enter key as punctuation...
[03:50] <jmerlin> =(
[03:51] <shriphani> Madpilot, my drivrefuses to be partitionede
[03:51] <shriphani> so i need help with it
[03:51] <highneko> How can I remove all these little messages that popup when my mouse goes over things?
[03:51] <dave___> is there a website I can download the .deb files that are in the repository for use on another computer?
[03:52] <ArrenLex> dave: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:52] <Madpilot> shriphani, I know very little about partitioning - all the partitioning I've done so far has 'just worked', so I haven't needed to learn... sorry
[03:52] <dave___> ahhhh
[03:52] <dave___> thank you
[03:52] <shriphani> heh
[03:53] <shriphani> but the installer cant partition
[03:53] <ArrenLex> Debian is life.
[03:53] <bimberi> dave___: btw, if your "main" computer is being kept up to date, the .deb files will have been downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> shriphani, ubuntu and debian ? why ? they are the same
[03:53] <ArrenLex> shripani: does it give some sort of error?
[03:53] <shriphani> ArrenLex, yes
[03:53] <ArrenLex> wickedpuppy: they are most certainly not the same.
[03:53] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, i want to try it
[03:54] <holycow> actually they are very very much the same
[03:54] <ArrenLex> shrip: what error, exactly? xD
[03:54] <ArrenLex> holycow: similar. But certainly not the same.
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> lol
[03:54] <shriphani> For some unknown reason this drive cccnot be partitioned
[03:54] <holycow> ArrenLex, i cannot agree with that at all but on a technicality
[03:55] <holycow> they 'are not' binary compatable but for some reasons not obvious to new users
[03:55] <jmerlin> has anyone here ever had to make a ubuntu linux install authenticate through a windows AD?
[03:55] <holycow> that is ubuntu 'freezes' off of debian unstable every 6 months
[03:55] <Djuuss> haha this is gonna take ages, gotta upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, then from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:55] <Celeste> hi
[03:56] <Celeste> I just installed "ubuntu-desktop"  on  "kubuntu"
[03:56] <shriphani> !hi
[03:56] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[03:56] <Celeste> when I press  ALT+F2  nothing happens
[03:56] <holycow> the freeze simply creates a situation where you will end up with base system config variability ... so yeah they are different, but not in the classic 'distro' sense imho
[03:56] <shriphani> Celeste, you need to log out
[03:56] <Celeste> shriphani, I logged out,  gdm started instead of kdm (as wished) and gnome is running
[03:56] <Djuuss> why is it bad to just put the dapper repo's right away and upgrade 5.04 --> 6.06?
[03:56] <shriphani> oh
[03:56] <Celeste> then I pressed ALT+F2  to get a command line like input window for starting programs
[03:57] <jmerlin> whatever, i'll figure it out later
[03:57] <Celeste> is it a misconfiguration or a package error?
[03:57] <jmerlin> i'll figure it out on my boss's time when i'm getitng paid to do so :>
[03:57] <shriphani> gnome-terminal is bad ?
[03:57] <jmerlin> off to play ET
[03:58] <Celeste> the terminal works
[03:58] <Celeste> shriphani, You do not know what I am talking about, right?
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, you logged out .. then you log in ?
[03:58] <shriphani> true Celeste
[03:58] <fgh_lo> ok. new question. how can i setup a dns on my box?
[03:58] <Celeste> yes wickedpuppy
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, after changing from gnome to kde ?
[03:58] <Celeste> shriphani, what happens when you press ALT+F2 on your keyboard?
[03:58] <shriphani> i get a prompt
[03:58] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, from kde to gnome
[03:58] <shriphani> console to be precise
[03:59] <Djuuss> celeste did you try xorgconfig?
[03:59] <Celeste> shriphani, ok, I want to get a prompt too
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> kde to gnome ? then surely gnome will load ...
[03:59] <shriphani> um
[03:59] <shriphani> wickedpuppy, gnome loaded
[03:59] <Celeste> is my english really so bad?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> yah .. and the problem is ?
[03:59] <shriphani> she/he/it wants to work from console
[03:59] <rylasasin> uh hey how do you get easyubuntu?
[03:59] <Celeste> no I do not want!!!
[03:59] <Celeste> once more:
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> no .. you log out .. changed from kde to gnome ... and you log in and gnome loads
[04:00] <AWOSDev> I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:00] <JamesFoster> Does anyone know how many Ubuntu users there currently is, worldwide?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> JamesFoster, ask mark shuttleworth
[04:01] <Djuuss> Celeste could you explain what the problem is? You installed ubuntu-desktop over kubuntu, and now gnome loads. What's wrong with that?
[04:01] <AWOSDev> JamesFoster, no but there are 855 in here :)
[04:01] <Celeste> OS: "Kubuntu" ...  installed:  "gnome-desktop"  via aptitude.   CTRL+ALT+BACK ....  "gdm" started instead of "kdm"  because "gnome-desktop" has been installed.   I logged in with GNOME as my Desktop Environment
[04:01] <Celeste> now I want to get a prompt when I press ALT+F2
[04:01] <Celeste> but nothing happens
[04:01] <Celeste> yes, I *could* open a shell
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, ctrl-alt-f2 ?
[04:01] <Celeste> but I want this  ALT+F2 prompt
[04:01] <JamesFoster> Canonical must know, right? They can look at how many times updates are downloaded/checked for.
[04:01] <Djuuss> ahhhhhh i get it
[04:01] <AWOSDev> WickedPuppy, in KDE, when you press ALT+F2, the "Run Command" box comes up
[04:01] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, CTRL+ALT+F2  brings me back to a text shell
[04:02] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, a non X one
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, ah i see
[04:02] <fluvvell> can anyone point me to the howto for adding dictionaries to openoffice?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> i do not use kde .. pardon me
[04:02] <Celeste> I USE GNOME
[04:02] <fluvvell> I've seen it before but google is being stubborn
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> so do i ...
[04:02] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, I use KDE  ;)
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, well .. help him :P
[04:02] <Djuuss> both KDE and GNOME give a X single line command window when pressing alt+F2, much like windows gives when pressing <windows>+r
[04:02] <AWOSDev> Yeah but I hate GNOME so I have no clue.
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, i don't use kde so i got no clue
[04:03] <Djuuss> but for celeste it doesnt show up now that she moved from kde to gnome
[04:03] <AWOSDev> There's a problem then :)
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> btw when i press alt-f2 i get run command ...
[04:03] <razorbuzz> Is anyone else having issues with Bon Echo in the Edgy beta?  The address bar doesn't work.. I have to type URL's into the google search box to go anywhere.  Typing them into the address bar does nothing when I hit enter or click the arrow
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> razorbuzz: Works fine here atm.
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue
[04:04] <razorbuzz> tonyyarusso, Thanks for the reply.  Not the answer I wanted...'cause now it means it's something specific to my system LOL
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> razorbuzz: Perhaps anyway.
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> razor1394, for edgy pls go to #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <wolfjb> I'm getting an error with gsfonts-x11, 'unrecognized option' followed by update-fonts-dir DIRECTORY. apt-get won't continue until I get this resolved, but I can not hold/uninstall/purge this package, any hints on how to overcome this?
[04:05] <razorbuzz> wickedpuppy, On my way.  Thanks
[04:05] <ArrenLex> fluvvell: for adding dictionaries to openoffice, if you still need it: File - Wizards - Install New Dictionaries
[04:05] <hbc> where would i find my kernel version listed please
[04:05] <Celeste> wickedpuppy: there is no "run command"
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> uname -a
[04:05] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, so no entry for that
[04:05] <aedinius> orion2012: I'm stalking you, now.
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, then pls kindly add it
[04:05] <Celeste> Linux box 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> no no
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, not you
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> its for hbc
[04:06] <hbc> thanx
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, go to System -> preference - >keyboard shortcuts ... and see if alt-f2 is linked to run command dialogue <-- for you Celeste
[04:06] <wolfjb> uname -r gets just the kernel version (2.6.15-26-386 in the above case)
[04:06] <hbc> I'll try that
[04:06] <Celeste> wickedpuppy, I found it - yes it is lnked
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> well and it doesn't work ?
[04:06] <Djuuss> Hey does anyone know voice recognition software? I wanna be able to just yell 'play'  at my box instead of having to click rhythmbox manually
[04:06] <hbc> cheers wickedpuppy
[04:07] <Celeste> yes wickedpuppy
[04:07] <orion2012> aedinius: OT chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <fluvvell> ArrenLex, thanks - that sounds a little different to last time - I'll go have a bash at it.
[04:07] <Celeste> does not work
[04:07] <rixth> Are programs like users-admin written in python?
[04:07] <poolie> has anyone else seen the postinst for xserver-xorg looping endlessly?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> hbc, as wolfjb pointed out , uname -r does the job too .. man uname for more info :P
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Celeste, i suggest you restart the whole com ... if that doesn't work then remove the shortcut and add it again
[04:08] <ArrenLex> Djuss: I have not managed to find a decent Text-to-Speech for Linux, let alone a transcriber. Good luck. Tell me if you find something.
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> if that doesn't work then pls curse the gnome devs
[04:08] <Djuuss> nah i hate text to speech
[04:08] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Which one have you tried?
[04:08] <Djuuss> arrenlex, i want voice operation, not text to speech
[04:08] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: And what doesn't work?
[04:09] <hbc> ah, I see
[04:09] <knix> Is anyone here using ElectricSheep? It refuses to run with --root 1 for some reason therefore not displaying as a screensaver
[04:09] <AWOSDev> ArrenLex, I find that ktts works well :)
[04:09] <amicrawle> hello how do you download from irc?
[04:09] <Djuuss> if all else fails, yell 'restart' , which is linked to shutdown -rf now
[04:09] <Djuuss> that kind of thing, anyone know a nice app?
[04:10] <knix> Djuuss: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux%20voice%20recognition
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Arafagnion: I have not found ANY speech-to-text or speech-command or voice recognition apps for Linux. At all.
[04:10] <gpled> is their a synaptic package to install java for firefox?
[04:10] <Madpilot> gpled, yes
[04:10] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gpled about java
[04:11] <hbc> and what is the man pages command for compiling kernel? is there one?
[04:11] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: haven't found ANY or any you like. kttsd and ksayit are there
[04:11] <halex-ab> hbc: don't believe there is one, no..
[04:12] <hbc> ok
[04:12] <hbc> cheers
[04:12] <w30> Djuuss, maybe you can find a usb clap on light and adapt it.
[04:12] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: That's completely different.
[04:12] <lufis> What Bash command will take a bunch of files and divide them up into different folders?
[04:12] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Are you talking about text-to-speech, or speech-to-text?
[04:13] <x_O> anyone in here using Edgy??
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> lufis, thats a very .. general question
[04:13] <mister_roboto> x_O: yes
[04:13] <Djuuss> Ok if anyone else was looking for voice recognition (be it commands or text to speech), this article helps: http://applications.linux.com/applications/05/01/18/2148234.shtml
[04:13] <|thunder> x_O; try #ubuntu+1
[04:13] <lufis> wickedpuppy: Well :P Did i phrase it badly?
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> x_O: Yeah.  And more in ^^ that channel
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> its like how to divide people and put them in different room ? can you answer that ?
[04:13] <sproingie> divide by what criteria, i think he's asking
[04:13] <x_O> thanks
[04:14] <sproingie> and there's no one command that'll do that, though it'd be an easy loop
[04:14] <Djuuss> lufis, are you by any chance referring to your mp3 collection?
[04:14] <lufis> wickedpuppy: I have a bunch of images in a directory, but Eye of Gnome crashes every time it tries to load them all (meh). It doesn't load them recursively though, so if I could just divide them all up into like 200 per folder, it wouldn't crash
[04:14] <graveson> anyone know,where i can find a guide to access my pc remotely from the internet(Securely) using FTP or SSH ?
[04:14] <x_O> No one is alive in there though. Sigh.
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> i suppose you can find with exec ... like find . -name *.txt -exec rm -rf {};
[04:15] <mister_roboto> lufis: ahhh.. the old problematic pr0n folder
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, accessing via ssh is so easy, I doubt you'll find a guide for it
[04:15] <lufis> mister_roboto: Yes. :P
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, it's two minutes
[04:15] <x_O> Do you guys use XGL, or Beryl ... or ... emeral theme .... manager ... dealios ... anything like that?
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, on the server, install the package  openssh-server
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> 200 per folder ... hmms ... that will require a shell script ..
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> !beryl
[04:15] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:15] <sethk> graveson, then, that's it.  you're done.  use ssh on the client.  (If it's windows use ssh from cygwin, although many people use putty which is just as good but not my personal preference)
[04:15] <Djuuss> Wickedpuppy, what would you recommend, beryl or xgl
[04:16] <bdragonmsl> Which kernel is best for an amd64 x2 4800 in 6.10?
[04:16] <Teri> I have a question about OpenSSL.  I'm somewhat new to linux. when I set up my win2k server, I remember paying a company (i think it was verisign) for a certificate.  I've read a few tutorials on creating a certificate on ubuntu and it appears that they are instructions on how to create a certificate without a 3rd party company...I like the sound of that.  I'm reading it correctly or do I indeed need to use a 3rd party company?  I'm only
[04:16] <Teri>  running a web server for my family to use wordpress, etc. so I've always hated paying for a cert...
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i used xgl before .. on sled .. so can't tell ya what to use on ubuntu ... xgl is good though but you need nvidia whatever you use
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> ati sux
[04:16] <graveson> sethk: is that it, do  i need to know my NAT address
[04:16] <Arafangion> Teri: The reason why you need to pay for a cert is because of the "Chain of trust".
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, you also get sftp and scp as a no cost bonus.
[04:17] <ArrenLex> Teri: you pay for certificates when you want other people to trust you.
[04:17] <bdragonmsl> yeah, I have nvidia, but it tells me I need a different kernel
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, you need to know your public address, yes, to log in from the 'net
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Teri, you can create your own certificate in Windows 2000 by promoting your server to "Enterprise Certificate Authority"
[04:17] <Djuuss> ya no worries, as long as its *really* 3d-accelerated, my cpu isnt exactly top of the line
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, there are a bunch of web sites that will tell you your public IP if you don't know it.
[04:17] <gpled> Madpilot: thanks, will try it out
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, then why not try both ?
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, and, if you order right now, at absolutely no cost ...  :)
[04:17] <graveson> sethk: is sftp as simple
[04:17] <nex_> does anyone know if there is an AMD X2 driver for i386 dapper?
[04:17] <graveson> sethk: :)
[04:17] <Arafangion> graveson: Most people use scp
[04:17] <sethk> graveson, yes, because it uses the same binaries as ssh.
[04:18] <Teri> I don't care about other people" trusting" my server.... I wish I knew this a year ago...would have saved me some cash
[04:18] <nex_> Teri what's up?
[04:18] <graveson> thanks guys
[04:18] <hbc> I know my kernel version, where would it be located please?
[04:18] <sethk> Arafangion, not in my experience, but it doesn't matter which you use.  they are both thin wrappers around ssh
[04:18] <sethk> hbc, uname -r
[04:18] <Arafangion> sethk: Fair enough. :)
[04:18] <Teri> nex_, nuttin
[04:18] <Arafangion> sethk: I find most ftp clients confusing, anyway ;)
[04:18] <Vouksh> What could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?
[04:18] <lastnode> what is a .pb file and how can i open it in ubuntu>
[04:18] <kate> can anyone here help me with americas army?
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> kate, osama can
[04:19] <qatsi> if i do a ifconfig and my card is listed there, does it mean that its correctly installed ?
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: It could be anything.
[04:19] <sethk> Arafangion, they can be.  depends.  a person used to using ftp, who hasn't used rcp, takes easily to sftp.  depends on what you are used to, I guess.
[04:19] <hbc> no, what directory would it be in?
[04:19] <geekchic9-1> wickedpuppy: lol
[04:19] <nex_> anyone know where i can get desktop widgets?
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: Traditionally, the "extension" is meaningless by itself on Linux and Unix systems.
[04:19] <sethk> graveson, sftp is just:   sftp username@ip
[04:19] <fuoco> hi, question: if i install a deb file manually, outside of a repo, does it break in some way the consistency of the package management ? would it make a difference when trying to uninstall stuff later etc... ?
[04:19] <kate> nvm
[04:19] <Teri> AWDSDev, so.... just to clarify, is this promoting my server just simply settings, or does this require a cost?
[04:19] <qatsi> sethk: back again, with more network issues....
[04:19] <Arafangion> lastnode: It does have semantic meaning to humans, though.
[04:19] <sethk> graveson, very easy.  and cygwin is nice because the windows side and the unix side use exactly the same syntax, in either direction.
[04:19] <jordan_> nex_ try gdesklets for gnome
[04:19] <nex_> i'm looking for the one that has processes, cpu, ram, etc...
[04:19] <sethk> qatsi, what type of issues?
[04:19] <nex_> anyone know what i'm talking about?
[04:20] <lastnode> Arafangion, of course. what i mean is, it generally denotes the file type
[04:20] <sethk> nex_, top
[04:20] <lastnode> !batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about batcave-bink Hemingway, Ernest - The Old Man And The Sea & Notes(txt).rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <lastnode> shoot
[04:20] <nex_> sethk, top?
[04:20] <Arafangion> lastnode: Only by convention.
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Teri, free.
[04:20] <bimberi> fuoco: no, if it installed without any force- options it should be fine
[04:20] <lastnode> Arafangion, yeah i know. is it a publisher file?
[04:20] <Arafangion> lastnode: Unix uses "Magic numbers" to denote file types, instead.
[04:20] <qatsi> sethk: after all the yada yada of the modules, if i do a ifconfig, i get some information about the network card, but i dont get an ip...
[04:20] <jordan_> nex_ that is the terminal application for seeing CPU usage ( top ).
[04:20] <sethk> nex_, not a widget, but does all that stuff.  I know the KDE desktop widgets, because I'm a kde user.   They exist for gnome also.
[04:20] <Nimwei> How do I configure a Samba user to have access to delete, rename, and modify files on a share? Currently the user is only able to read the files.
[04:21] <rylasasin> ok dude how do I get easy ubuntu
[04:21] <fuoco> bimberi: ok thanks. i assume the only down side then is that i won't get updates for that package ?
[04:21] <Teri> AWDSDev.  wow am I dumb
[04:21] <lastnode> Arafangion, im aware of all this. i just asked what a .pb file usually is.
[04:21] <nex_> ok,
[04:21] <jordan_> nex_ do you want it in the title bar?
[04:21] <Arafangion> lastnode: So, one uses "file", which looks at the first two bytes, which is hte magic number. (Shell scripts start with #!, which corresponds to the two-byte magic number)
[04:21] <sethk> qatsi, what happens if you bring up the network-admin dialog, select the interface, click disable, and then click enable?  do you get an IP?
[04:21] <mister_roboto> lastnode: did you google for it?
[04:21] <sethk> qatsi, that makes sense only if you are using DHCP.
[04:21] <bimberi> fuoco: no, unless it appears in your repositories later :)
[04:21] <nex_> well there is one i already tried for the title bar
[04:21] <qatsi> rylasasin: google is your friend...easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:21] <nex_> but it only displays one of my cpus
[04:21] <lastnode> Arafangion, mate, you're preaching to the choir ;-)
[04:21] <Vouksh> I'm having some trouble with installing Xubuntu on my laptop. During install, it stops at 79% trying to run "22gnome_panel_data"
[04:21] <qatsi> sethk: yes i am using, let me check
[04:21] <nex_> that's why i was asking if there is a driver for amd x2
[04:22] <Madpilot> w30, they ban people for friendly fire in AA?
[04:22] <nex_> xause it only shows one cpu
[04:22] <fuoco> bimberi: that was my next question, what happens if it appears in the repo later ?
[04:22] <Arafangion> lastnode: I'd suggest either google, or file, or just doubleclicking on it as a guest user, to see what the mime type is.
[04:22] <jordan_> nex_ are you sure both your CPUs are being used?
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, there are definitely widgets around that work with multiple CPUs.
[04:22] <Teri> AWDSDev, do you know where can I read about the "concepts" of SSL certificates so I don't make the same mistakes?
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> lastnode, i was in choir .. pls don't insult us :P
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, jordan_ has a good question
[04:22] <AWOSDev> Teri, not dumb, just a littler, uneducated.  :)
[04:22] <lastnode> wickedpuppy, it's called a figure of speech
[04:22] <sethk> nex_, do   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:22] <nex_> good question indeed
[04:22] <w30> Madpilot, you get thrown in the stockade and that's it.
[04:22] <nex_> ok let me see
[04:22] <Teri> AWDSDev :-)
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> lastnode, :) would show i also understand that ...
[04:22] <bimberi> fuoco: if it's a later version in the repo it will offer to upgrade
[04:22] <qatsi> sethk: my network card is listed there and it says that eth0 is active...
[04:23] <lastnode> Arafangion, i havent downloaded it yet, else id do 'file' on it. :-) im wondering if ill need any proprietary reader to read it, in which case i wont download it. ill google, thanks.
[04:23] <nex_> nope
[04:23] <AWOSDev>  I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the Waveform sounds but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:23] <nex_> apparently only 1
[04:23] <nex_> cpuid level : 1
[04:23] <nex_> processor: 0
[04:23] <nex_> no more
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, ok, but deactivate, then click activate.
[04:23] <Nimwei> SAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?
[04:23] <AWOSDev> nex_, CPUID level 1?  processor 0?  that's like a 486...
[04:23] <jordan_> nex_ Are you using an SMP kernel?
[04:23] <mister_roboto> lastnode: try filext.com for tracking down file extensions
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, that will force it to request an IP from dhcp again
[04:23] <vulcanium> hey guys
[04:23] <w30> Madpilot, I did it on the rifle range so they didn't like it.
[04:23] <nex_> SMP kernel?
[04:23] <lastnode> mister_roboto, just found it :-)
[04:23] <nex_> <--noob
[04:23] <Madpilot> w30, heh
[04:23] <sethk> qatsi, if it gets one, then we have one type of problem.  if it doesn't, then we have a different type of problem
[04:23] <Djuuss> offtopic: in xchat, what do i type to start a private conversation with someone? like, <private conversation command> ubotu 'Hi bot!'
[04:24] <qatsi> sethk: i cant deactivate or activate :S
[04:24] <Nimwei> Djuuss: type /msg <nick> <msg>
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, /query
[04:24] <Vouksh> What could be the reason behind my install stopping at 22gnome_panel_data?
[04:24] <nex_> i'm using i386 version of dapper, cause 64 bit would lock up during install
[04:24] <sethk> nex_, the default kernel is SMP.  symmetric multi-processing, aka more than one cpu
[04:24] <Djuuss> ok thx
[04:24] <jordan_> nex_ You need a specific kernel to use multi core CPUs.
[04:24] <vulcanium> I installed ubuntu for the first time today
[04:24] <nex_> ok
[04:24] <Arafangion> lastnode: Remember, if it's publisher, realise that even the specific _version_ matters. :(
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, are you using xchat ?
[04:24] <sethk> qatsi, can't?  why not?  you did start it as root, I assume?
[04:24] <nex_> how would i get that specific kernel?
[04:24] <w30> Madpilot, I just wonder how real the game was so I found out. :=)
[04:24] <qatsi> sethk: wait, its activating...hehe :p
[04:24] <Arafangion> lastnode: MS isn't even compatible with _themselves_. :(
[04:24] <sethk> qatsi, that's better.  :)
[04:24] <vulcanium> one minor issue seems to be that there isn't a propper graphics driver isntalled
[04:24] <vulcanium> IE, I can't go above 1024x768
[04:25] <qatsi> sethk: ok, now i have an ip...:p hehe
[04:25] <jordan_> sethk, Although people told me the default kernel is smp, I wasn't getting support for both cores until I installed the SMP kernel package.
[04:25] <sethk> vulcanium, that may be the graphics driver, but it also may be misidentification of the monitor.
[04:25] <lastnode> Arafangion, it's wordperfect, and im skipping the download. :-) thanks
[04:25] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy ye
[04:25] <nex_> jordan_ how do i get the SMP kernel package?
[04:25] <sethk> jordan_, interesting.  I build my own kernel, so I wouldn't have seen the problem.
[04:25] <vulcanium> sethk, any way to force a resolution?
[04:25] <Madpilot> w30, good thing I play Enemy Territory instead - when I started playing that, about a year ago, I spent the first two games or so shooting everyone, until I got auto-kicked for friendly fire and started to figure stuff out :D
[04:25] <vulcanium> I have a 7800gt btw
[04:25] <Arafangion> lastnode: It's _possible_ that OOo can open such files.
[04:25] <nex_> sethk, how would i go by solving my problem?
[04:26] <sethk> jordan_, first thing I do, with all the distros, is replace the kernel with one downloaded from kernel.org.  Which just about everyone here objects to, but it works.
[04:26] <Vouksh> Grrr. Can ANYONE help me with my install problem?
[04:26] <jordan_> nex_ You can do it using synaptic, hold on and I'll find the package name.
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, pls right click on my nick and choose the dialogue option ... there is no need to type :P
[04:26] <vulcanium> I was looking into how to install the latest driver but I got totaly lose
[04:26] <vulcanium> lost*
[04:26] <sethk> nex_, when you do   uname -a      do you see SMP anywhere in the output?
[04:26] <nex_> jordan_, thanks
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, can you paste your X log to the paste web site?
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, if you switch to Konversation you can just click a nick to begin a query :)
[04:26] <nex_> no
[04:26] <w30> Madpilot, ha! I can't get through basic qualification on America's Army.
[04:26] <lastnode> Arafangion, id rather not use proprietary file extensions
[04:26] <jordan_> sethk_ I don't see why anyone would object.
[04:26] <nex_> sethk, no i don't
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, it's named Xorg.0.log
[04:26] <sethk> vulcanium, in /var/log
[04:26] <Arafangion> lastnode: Oooh! A fundamentalist! Cool :)
[04:26] <nex_> /home/icons/pCircle-24
[04:26] <vulcanium> sethk, I would, but I'm in windows right now
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pCircle-32
[04:27] <lastnode> :-)
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pDebian-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pDebian-32
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pGentoo-24
[04:27] <SilentDissonance> hello
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pGentoo-32
[04:27] <Vouksh> Hello, am I being ignored?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSlackware-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSlackware-32
[04:27] <sethk> nex_, I'd start by going into synaptic and looking at the kernel packages, and picking one with smp in the name (for your architecture, of course)
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSuse-24
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pSuse-32
[04:27] <sethk> Vouksh, not sure, did you ask a question?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pTux-24
[04:27] <Djuuss> Wickedpuppy, i'm not into cyber. AWOSDev, i know, xchat has that too, but i did /stats p to get freenode staffers, but it turned up non-clickable nicks.
[04:27] <Vouksh> yea
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pTux-32
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pUbuntu-24
[04:27] <sethk> Vouksh, lot of traffic tonight, please ask it again.
[04:27] <mister_roboto> nex_: wtf?
[04:27] <nex_> /home/icons/pUbuntu-32
[04:27] <nex_> oops
[04:27] <satrac> #perl
[04:28] <vulcanium> is pretty damn quick in here tonight
[04:28] <vulcanium> lol
[04:28] <sethk> vulcanium, best thing to do is look at the log.  otherwise, we are just guessing.
[04:28] <Madpilot> nex_, I'll un-mute you in a minute or two
[04:28] <jordan_> nex_ linux-686-smp
[04:28] <sethk> vulcanium, with the log we can tell you immediately what's going on, and hopefully how to fix it.
[04:28] <Vouksh> sethk, I'm having trouble with the installer. it keeps stopping at 79% saying it's running "22gnome_panel_data"
[04:28] <vulcanium> sethk, understood.
[04:28] <vulcanium> I'm so used to windows.... and log files are pretty foreign to me heh
[04:28] <sethk> Vouksh, did you do the media validation?
[04:28] <Nimwei> SAMBA: How do I give a user FULL RIGHTS to a share?
[04:29] <Arafangion> vulcanium: I don't even know _how_ to get the logs on windows.
[04:29] <Vouksh> hmm, nope. i'll try that first
[04:29] <sethk> Vouksh, sounds like a bad cd, either a bad burn, or possibly a bad download.  check the MD5SUM of the download, if you haven't already, and then try to validate the cd.
[04:29] <Djuuss> lol somehow i started this IRC in root..
[04:29] <SilentDissonance> hello, i just installed a new vid card, and am having problems getting x to start.
[04:29] <vulcanium> Arafangion, exactly. haha
[04:29] <Djuuss> but this beeing ubuntu, there is not even a root account
[04:29] <vulcanium> oh really?
[04:29] <vulcanium> hows that work?
[04:29] <sethk> Djuuss, that is not true
[04:29] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, what type of card?
[04:30] <SilentDissonance> GeForce 7600GS
[04:30] <suff0kate> how do u run a .rb i do it but it doesn't recognize it
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, two things.  first, it will not even begin to run without a root account.  second, nothing in ubuntu is different about root compared with all other linux distros.
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, that's a myth, as you have obviously discovered.
[04:30] <suff0kate> and i installed the ruby package
[04:30] <SilentDissonance> reports "No screens found" in the error logs
[04:30] <qatsi> sethk: ok, ill try to log in with the other computer :P lets hope it works
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> suff0kate, ruby file.rb
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, with the default installation options (and _only_ with the default installation options), the root password is not set.
[04:30] <Madpilot> nex_, you should be back now
[04:30] <suff0kate> i know
[04:30] <rixth> Are programs like users-admin written in python?
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, which is _not_ the same as not having a root account
[04:30] <suff0kate> how do you run those in terminal
[04:30] <sethk> rixth, some are.
[04:30] <wickedpuppy> suff0kate, i told ya .. ruby file.rb
[04:30] <sethk> Djuuss, if you do    ps aux      you'll see bunches of programs running in the root account
[04:31] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, Have you tried anything to get it working yet?
[04:31] <rixth> sethk, stylin' I'll take a look
[04:31] <mister_roboto> grep root /etc/passwd
[04:31] <suff0kate> k
[04:31] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, actually do ps aux | grep root, else you'll see hundreds and hundreds of lines :)
[04:31] <vulcanium> I need some advice on how to organize my hard drive as far as making my data accessable in both linux and windows
[04:31] <AWOSDev>  I want to play MIDI files but can't.  First it said "no such device /dev/snd/seq", so I modprobed snd-seq.  Now it says its playing but I don't hear any sound.  I can hear the KDE sounds (Waveform) but not MIDI.  What could the problem be?
[04:31] <Djuuss> well ok i prefer sudo su over constantly typing sudo before apt-get install, i'm just puzzled how i managed to start xchat in root by clicking it in the gnome menu
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, put a new partition between the two OS ... thats my fav plan ..
[04:32] <bdragonmsl> can anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers in 6.10
[04:32] <AWOSDev> Djuuss, well did you start GNOME as root?  LOL
[04:32] <SilentDissonance> jordan_:  i attempted a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... but it appears it's not detecting the monitor.  sees the nvidia card fine, and 'chooses' that for me
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, xchat in root is waiting to be rooted
[04:32] <jordan_> Djuss, check that the menu item doesn't use gksudo.
[04:32] <vulcanium> what file system wickedpuppy ?
[04:32] <Djuuss> well this is my first startup, it went a bit bumpy
[04:32] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, well yeah but I used to run xchat as root on my SuSE system.  no firewall too :P
[04:32] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, fat32 .. then i dump my mp3s in side there
[04:33] <Djuuss> i remember typing sudo startx at some point
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, hmms .... i remember you .. you were the one with all the pr0ns!!!! :P
[04:33] <vulcanium> doesn't fat32 have some really anyoing partition size limits or something?
[04:33] <sethk> Djuuss, that's not necessarily wrong, although it's not the most common way to start X.
[04:33] <Vouksh> Is there any kind of CLI installer for ubuntu?
[04:33] <AWOSDev> Djuuss yeah sudo startx would make GNOME run as root
[04:33] <sethk> Vouksh, yes
[04:33] <sethk> Vouksh, on the alternate cd, use the text mode install
[04:33] <cynikal> Vouksh: the alternate cd
[04:33] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, you must have confused me with another AWOSDev as I only went into #OSDev.  :)
[04:33] <Teri> join #apache
[04:33] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, yah .. but i use it to transfer files ... just a temp place for files that needed in both OS .. but a storage partition
[04:34] <Vouksh> sethk & cynikal, thanks. i'll look into that if i can't get this working
[04:34] <AWOSDev> Teri huh?  why?
[04:34] <vulcanium> ah
[04:34] <Teri> AWDSDev, oops
[04:34] <vulcanium> well this wouldhave to be permanent storage for all my docs, pictures, and CDs
[04:34] <vulcanium> all ripped in lossless
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> sorry for the ot, but anyone know off hand fast firewire is? google's being complicated.. or it's just me
[04:34] <jordan_> SilentDissonance, If you have installed the proprietary nvidea drivers then I have no idea, you can try using vesa for basic functionality.
[04:34] <Vouksh> I'm too used to Gentoo, and Ubuntu seems really... different for some reason
[04:34] <Teri> AWDSDev...I have questions on Apache2
[04:34] <Madpilot> nex_, you should be OK to talk now
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, then ah ... ntfs .. but surely you should know why i don't use ntfs
[04:34] <AWOSDev> Teri, just FYI... I'm AW O SDev with an O as in Octopus...not
[04:35] <Teri> AWDSDev...are you educated on apaech?
[04:35] <vulcanium> yeah... you can't wrtie from within linux then
[04:35] <jordan_> nex_ linux-686-smp
[04:35] <vulcanium> what if I used ext3
[04:35] <sethk> Vouksh, not really significantly different.  just details.  gentoo makes many gratuitous changes to what is normally done, just to be different.
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri, yeah
[04:35] <SilentDissonance> jordan_: i haven't installed any drivers as of yet... other than chosen "nv" from the list available when reconfiguring x.
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri, PM me
[04:35] <vulcanium> and then used a viertual driver in windows?
[04:35] <sethk> vulcanium, there are ext2/3 drivers available for windows
[04:35] <Djuuss> vulcanium either ntfs, or get windows drivers for ext3. you can write ntfs, but its rumored not to be stable
[04:35] <sethk> vulcanium, no virtual driver, there is a real driver
[04:35] <Teri> awosdev... now I see the  O
[04:35] <mister_roboto> CaptainMorgan: i googled "firewire transfer speed" and it was the top hit
[04:35] <nex_> it's telling me in synaptic that it's for Intel cpus
[04:35] <AWOSDev> Teri :)
[04:35] <vulcanium> well, whatever you want to call
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> vulcanium, same .. you got to fix windows to recognise ext3
[04:35] <w30> vulcanium, it's got a file size limit but I don't remember what. Databases get in trouble with it.
[04:35] <SilentDissonance> the problem, it appears, is the monitor is for some reason, isn't detected and won't register on the xclient :P
[04:36] <vulcanium> what are the limitations with fat32 exactly?  from what I'm reading it is just the 2 gig file size limit
[04:36] <sethk> SilentDissonance, reconfigure, and override the monitor selection with "generic monitor capable of"...
[04:36] <vulcanium> or 4 gig rather
[04:36] <sethk> SilentDissonance, you'll find that in the _middle_ difficulty level of the monitor configuration in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <Vouksh> vulcanium, it only allows up to 32GB partitions
[04:36] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, well yeah 4GB file limit.  The only other limit would be 2TB partitions.
[04:37] <nex_> jordan_ does it work with AMD x2? cause it says in synaptic that it's intel
[04:37] <Djuuss> personally i write NTFS from linux all the time, works fine
[04:37] <Vouksh> AWOSDev, I thought it was 32GB?
[04:37] <Teri> Awosdev....pm'ed you... you still here?
[04:37] <jordan_> nex_ I honestly don't know :)
[04:37] <Madpilot> right, enough spam from me for now :)
[04:37] <nex_> are you running it?
[04:37] <vulcanium> well thats not too bad
[04:37] <AWOSDev> Teri yes but I didn't get it
[04:37] <vulcanium> I can deal with that
[04:37] <AWOSDev> hold on
[04:37] <sethk> Djuuss, there are known cases where there are major problems, so it's best to warn people about that.
[04:37] <vulcanium> I don't have anything larger than 2 gig typically
[04:37] <jordan_> nex_ with a core duo.
[04:38] <sethk> Djuuss, it's quite possible to not see something for days, months, even years, yet it is still there and still a serious problem.
[04:38] <THX-1138> Hi Madpilot
[04:38] <AWOSDev> Vouksh, 2TiB per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32
[04:38] <Djuuss> yeh i was gonna say ' dont quote me on it' but synaptic needed my attention
[04:38] <Madpilot> hi THX-1138
[04:38] <AWOSDev> oh and vulcanium, you should read that too -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAT32
[04:38] <Teri> awosdev...i'm replying in the pm window.... are you not seeing my typing/msgs?
[04:38] <vulcanium> kk
[04:38] <nex_> jordan_ that wouldn't work for me
[04:38] <Djuuss> if you want *stable* cross-OS storage, get some windows drivers for ext2
[04:38] <AWOSDev> Teri: no...did you get my "Can you see me?" message?
[04:38] <SilentDissonance> ok, tried that... I still get 'no devices detected'.... it's like it can't 'see' my monitor for some reason
[04:38] <Teri> awosdev.. yep
[04:38] <w30> Djuuss, I read that writing to ntfs with Linux over networking is flaky. I don't know the particulars though.
[04:39] <Madpilot> Teri, are you registed & identified w/ Freenode's nickserv?
[04:39] <Teri> awosdev...i answered back
[04:39] <sethk> SilentDissonance, makes no difference if you do what I suggested
[04:39] <vulcanium> I need another hard drive
[04:39] <vulcanium>  all this lossless music eats up my space
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> Teri, pls type awos and press tab ...
[04:39] <SilentDissonance> sethk:  let me rescroll back up....
[04:39] <Teri> madpilot, I doubt it,  I don't know what that means
[04:39] <AWOSDev> Teri yes are you registered?
[04:39] <docmur> okay how do you make iptables stay after restart
[04:39] <SilentDissonance> sethk:  think i missed yours lol
[04:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Teri about register
[04:39] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy she got my name right--
[04:39] <AngryParsley> lossless isn't really worth the hard drive space
[04:39] <sethk> SilentDissonance, (sudo) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <Madpilot> Teri, you need to be reg'd/id'd to send PMs
[04:39] <THX-1138> Madpilot - How do you use the mount command with the live cd, it appears disabled in a blurb on boot scrren  and i get permission errors trying to use it.
[04:39] <Djuuss> w30 that doesnt make sense, you dont write over network directly onto the harddisk, you present the data to the receiving machine, that writes it to HD all by itself. So i dont see how linux ntfs compatibility has anything to do with that
[04:39] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, ah but she got to type ... its hard
[04:39] <AngryParsley> you can get the same perceived quality by using VBR mp3s
[04:40] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy I type all the nicks
[04:40] <heero> Hello
[04:40] <sethk> SilentDissonance, choose the middle difficulty level for monitor configuration.  then choose generic monitor, or generic lcd screen, capable of    (1280x1024, for example, whatever fits the monitor)
[04:40] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy even the hard ones :)
[04:40] <Teri> madpilot...oh
[04:40] <Madpilot> THX-1138, it should just work, at least with ext3 partitions - that's all I've ever used it on
[04:40] <SilentDissonance> sethk: ahh yes, that I just tried
[04:40] <JoelS> Hey guys, trying to go from gentoo->ubuntu, can anyone help with partitions?
[04:40] <THX-1138> Madpilot - Okay. - Thanks
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, lol ... my full name is mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint ... imagine typing this all the time
[04:40] <Teri> wickedpuppy, cool trick with the tab thing
[04:40] <sethk> SilentDissonance, in that program, it tells you that it can't see a monitor at all?
[04:40] <vulcanium> are there any known issues in writing ext3 from widnows using one of those drivers?
[04:40] <SilentDissonance> the stupid card has 2 vid ports... let me try dropping my monitor on the 2nd one, just out of curiosity.  might init that one first :P
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Teri, same as bash :P auto complete
[04:40] <jordan_> nex_ I can't think of any reason why it *wouldn't* work.
[04:40] <Madpilot> THX-1138, you trying to view ext3 or something else?
[04:41] <Teri> wickedpuppy, kewl
[04:41] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy mayng myat thu @ billy aung myint...I could :)
[04:41] <SilentDissonance> brb, semi afk as I mess with the damn thing lol
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: You might be more specific.
[04:41] <vulcanium> I would think not seeing as ext3 is an open standard whilst ntfs had to be reverse engineered
[04:41] <w30> Djuuss, I don't know other than to parrot what some else wrote so take it with a grain of salt and research it more :=)
[04:41] <THX-1138> Ext3 to edit xorg.conf.
[04:41] <sethk> vulcanium, I pay attention, and I've not heard of problems there.  But investigate for yourself; problems can be rare but still exist and may be serious.
[04:41] <Teri> Madpilot, is there a cost for registering?
[04:41] <AWOSDev> Teri, free
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> Teri, free
[04:41] <Madpilot> Teri, no, it's free
[04:41] <sethk> vulcanium, my judgement is that it is the best alternative if FAT32 is not an option for some reason.
[04:41] <rpc-> it's free :)
[04:41] <nex_> jordan, so you're saying that it isn't specific to intel based?
[04:41] <vulcanium> okay
[04:42] <nex_> jordan_, how would i check to see if it worked?
[04:42] <jordan_> nex_ That is what I think, I am not sure though.
[04:42] <Madpilot> Teri, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:42] <nex_> ok let's ask...
[04:42] <Teri> Madpilot, reading...
[04:42] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, I have a drive partitioned like so: ntfs 22gig for windows, 21 gig for OSX (hfs+), and 30 gig for gentoo... i wanted to remove gentoo and put on ubuntu, and if convenient, maybe repartition it to include the hfs+ parition.
[04:42] <Djuuss> oeh, i think im in love.. gksudo update-manager
[04:42] <sethk> nex_, smp support is specific to a processor, but intel is not the only processor for which smp is supported
[04:42] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, but if thats not possible, just to take the 30 gig ext3 partition and use that for ubuntu
[04:42] <vulcanium> I need to ditch my x-fi card
[04:43] <nex_> sethk, so the package works with non-intel cpus?
[04:43] <vulcanium> anyone want it? :P
[04:43] <AWOSDev> xfi?
[04:43] <shriphani> guys how do i resize an ext3 partition ?
[04:43] <harrism> Hello room, I just finished building my new computer and I need some help getting the correct drivers for my VGA card (I believe) My VGA card is made by MSI, it's a NX6200 series NVIDIA/GeForce. Can someone tell me where to go to get direct rendering? If I type glxinfo in terminal I get name of display: :0.0
[04:43] <nex_> sethk, even though it doesn't say...
[04:43] <harrism> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[04:43] <shriphani> gparted doesnt seem to work
[04:43] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, you know, creatives latest gaming sound card
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, probably more accurate to say that packages are available for other processors
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, it isn't the same code.
[04:43] <vulcanium> I don't really game much anymore
[04:43] <THX-1138> Madpilot - I am using the DVD image with three install methods.
[04:43] <sethk> nex_, if you do the kernel configuration, and you set the processor type, then you'll find out whether smp support is available for that processor
[04:43] <fogos> hi someone use ipodder
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Either one should be pretty easy to do, just go to "manually edit partitions" and there you go.
[04:43] <raindog> I attempted to enable direct rendering for my ATI R340M Radeon card.  After installing glfrx and rebooting I can no longer get X to run.  How can I revert to the driver that ubuntu picked for it orginally?
[04:44] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, I could always use the other partition like another drive in linux later, right?
[04:44] <nex_> sethk, how would i do that?
[04:44] <Madpilot> THX-1138, never used it, know zip about the DVD stuff... sorry
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Yes.
[04:44] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, nope haven't heard of it
[04:44] <laska> hello there. Is anyoneknow how to reset admin password in Ubuntu?
[04:44] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, wow.
[04:44] <laska> laska@laska-main:/$ su
[04:44] <laska> Password:
[04:44] <vulcanium> don't pay attention to hardware much?
[04:44] <sethk> nex_, download the kernel source, and in the root of the kernel source tree, do:       make xconfig
[04:44] <laska> su: Authentication failure
[04:44] <laska> Sorry.
[04:44] <laska> laska@laska-main:/$
[04:44] <nex_> admin password is your password
[04:45] <AngryParsley> laska: use your own password
[04:45] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, so i'll just install it on the ext3 portion... right now i see dev/hda5 is swap 1 gig and dev/hda6 is 29 gig ext3
[04:45] <Madpilot> laska, you know Ubuntu uses sudo + your own password, right?
[04:45] <laska> not working
[04:45] <AngryParsley> laska: use sudo
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: Sounds good.
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, if for some reason you don't have enough support installed to do that, you can try     make gconfig           and, if that doesn't work,         make menuconfig
[04:45] <AWOSDev> vulcanium, I pay attention to network cards and SMP motherboards...get it now?  :)
[04:45] <sethk> nex_, they all do essentially the same thing.
[04:45] <bdragonmsl> Can anyone help me with my 6.10 box?
[04:45] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, so do I need to make any changes in the editor? or just hit forward?
[04:45] <jordan_> sethk, Don't you think that is a bit much for a new user.
[04:45] <AngryParsley> as in "sudo blah"
[04:45] <shriphani> AWOSDev, how do i resize an ext3 partition ?
[04:45] <vulcanium> AWOSDev, yeah... haha
[04:45] <AngryParsley> blah being the command you want to run
[04:45] <AWOSDev> laska, sudo -s
[04:45] <SilentDissonance> rofl i think it's solved.  appears that the card inits the dvi output first, so i have to have a monitor attached there.  the standard vid out port is the secondary :P
[04:45] <sethk> jordan_, to build it, yes.  but to use it to discover whether smp support is available?  absolutely not.
[04:45] <AWOSDev> shriphani, gparted
[04:45] <Madpilot> bdragonmsl, possibly, if you ask an actual question :)
[04:45] <AWOSDev> !gparted
[04:45] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: No, just tell it to use that one for /
[04:46] <harrism> is there anyone who can help?
[04:46] <AWOSDev> I personally like the LiveCD.
[04:46] <bashusr> ok... i'm a newbie when it comes to gnome...
[04:46] <jordan_> sethk, sorry misread.
[04:46] <THX-1138> My bios doesn't see three installed video adapters. - Is there a software bios available?
[04:46] <vulcanium> that reminds me
[04:46] <JoelS> tonyyarusso, can I prmsg?
[04:46] <bashusr> anybody got a shortkey cheat sheet?
[04:46] <vulcanium> the first time I botted up thel ive cd
[04:46] <vulcanium> it kinda crashed
[04:46] <nex_> you lost me at source tree
[04:46] <bashusr> or specifically, how do i switch between workspaces?
[04:46] <nex_> but anyways
[04:46] <sethk> vulcanium, did it crash, or didn't it crash?   :)
[04:46] <SilentDissonance> aargh, i spoke too soon.  still getting 'no screens found' in the log :(
[04:46] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found"
[04:46] <Madpilot> bashusr, Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow|Right Arrow
[04:46] <bashusr> it was ctrl+alt+# in kde back in the days when i used it
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> JoelS: You can, but #ubuntu-classroom might even be better (other people can follow help topics if they want)
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> bashusr, see the 4 mini windows beside the recycle bin ?
[04:46] <THX-1138> CTRL+ALT+ left/right arrow
[04:47] <nex_> thanks for your help guys
[04:47] <bashusr> how do i display desktop?
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> why am I getting a sudo cd /foodir error: cd command not found? and if cd /foodir I get permission denied??
[04:47] <sethk> bashusr, you mean with a key combination?  usually control-alt-1, control-alt-2, etc.  (1, 2, not f1, f2)
[04:47] <nex_> time to google!
[04:47] <vulcanium> actually, it did the EXACT same thing my debian install did
[04:47] <laska> AWOSDev it worked!
[04:47] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan hmm
[04:47] <laska> Thanx
[04:47] <AWOSDev> laska np :)
[04:47] <Djuuss> Hey my firefox is busted.. 'bookmark this page' now spawns a tiny new window, barely the size of my cursor, that you can stretch out to reveal its called 'firefox'  but has no content
[04:47] <Madpilot> bashusr, also, try hovering your mouse over the desktop switcher (bottom-right corner) and rolling your mousewheel up and down
[04:47] <bashusr> sethk: doesn't work on gnome :)
[04:47] <vulcanium> right after where thel ogin screen in debian was [or where it woudl be on thel ive cd]  it just stops
[04:47] <Agrajag-> gday, for some reason emulate3buttons seems to be happening for me although i do not have it set in my xorg.conf. what else might do this?
[04:47] <bashusr> Madpilot: on a laptop... no wheel thingie :)
[04:47] <CaptainMorgan> it's a newly created dir AWOSDev, for a spim simulator i placed it in /usr/local/bin
[04:47] <THX-1138> sethk - okay that will give you different terminals. or user perms
[04:47] <bashusr> is there a show desktop shortcut?
[04:47] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan try sudo -s then cd /foodir
[04:47] <vulcanium> I got a sort of courruptedl ooking box in the middle of the screen
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> bashusr, then just click them ...
[04:47] <Madpilot> bashusr, ctrl+alt+right/left arrow, then
[04:47] <halex-ab> Djuuss: Try restarting Firefox..
[04:48] <vulcanium> and it just sat there for as long as I would leave it
[04:48] <bashusr> Madpilot: affirmative... thanks
[04:48] <sethk> THX-1138, control-alt-f# is for consoles (not terminals, consoles).  not control-alt-1
[04:48] <bashusr> how about desktop shortcut? ie. window+d in windows?
[04:48] <harrism> can anyone help me with my VGA card?
[04:48] <Djuuss> halex-ab, i cant, i'd lose this site that i want to bookmark :P
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> thanks AWOSDev  ;), why was that necessary if I was using sudo?
[04:48] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan, good question...ask the devs?  :P
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, you can save the bookmarks ...
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> heh
[04:48] <halex-ab> Djuuss, There's a thing called 'history' you know.. ;)
[04:48] <bdragonmsl> I'm trying to get glx to work in 6.10, but it keeps coming up with "sudo: nvidia-glx-xconfig: command not found", I've installed all the glx, and I have a nvidia card.  Is there something that I'm doing wrong??
[04:48] <Teri2007> AWOSDev, I'm back... I think I'm registered now
[04:48] <THX-1138> vulcanism - I am guessing you are using an lcd monitor?
[04:49] <ChocoCid> So, what exactly is wrong with automatix?
[04:49] <AWOSDev> Teri2007 okay
[04:49] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, it breaks things, basically
[04:49] <halex-ab> bdragonmsl, you're typing the wrong command.. it's nvidia-xconfig
[04:49] <vulcanium> THX-1138, nope, a crt.
[04:49] <Djuuss> err
[04:49] <sethk> bdragonmsl, that's part of the nvidia binary drivers
[04:49] <ChocoCid> "breaks things" how?
[04:49] <ChocoCid> is there a page that describes this stuff?
[04:49] <Djuuss> what command was i looking for to see all running processes, but only print the ones that look like ' firefox'
[04:49] <w30> bashusr, right click on your panel and then left click on add; find the workplace swithere applet and add that to your panel. You can then click on a desktop that you want to go to.
[04:49] <sethk> ChocoCid, before you use it, things work.  after you use it, they don't.
[04:49] <vulcanium> the live cd worked fine once I botted up in the dafe display mode I think it was called
[04:50] <ChocoCid> lol
[04:50] <sethk> Djuuss, ps aux | grep firefox
[04:50] <Teri2007> AWOSDev, ok well I thought that worked but maybe not because you still can't see me I guess...hang on...
[04:50] <ChocoCid> so, no further details anywhere?
[04:50] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, there is a page listing some of the problems with automatix, let me see if I can scare up the URL
[04:50] <halex-ab> Djuuss, ps -A | grep firefox
[04:50] <w30> swithere/switcher
[04:50] <toolate> anyone have any clues to where i can find old ATI M7 drivers? my display works, but I have lines through buttons sometimes. not anything else, just buttons.
[04:50] <AWOSDev> Teri2007 okay
[04:50] <ChocoCid> thanks, that'd be nice, i used it on my dapper install and had problems with some other stuff afterwards
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> what's a good dir to do manual installs of programs? i thought /usr/local/bin, but not so sure
[04:50] <ChocoCid> the idea seems great though, so i'm wondering what's up
[04:50] <Djuuss> thanks, but didnt need it, there were two firefoxes floating around as tiny windows, and they didnt respond to killall -9 mozilla-firefox
[04:50] <THX-1138> !display > vulcanism
[04:51] <bdragonmsl> I originally typed this though... sudo nvidia-glx-xconfig enable
[04:51] <THX-1138> !display > vulcanium
[04:51] <SilentDissonance> got x to boot off the default vesa set... gonna poke around a bit and see if I can make this work... if not, i might be back.  i see there's a lotta others around, and I can plink away solo for a bit.  thanks for the help and suggestion on vesa at least :)
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i thought its kill -9 ...
[04:51] <AWOSDev> CaptainMorgan I prefer /usr/bin but that's just me
[04:51] <vulcanium> what THX-1138 ?
[04:51] <raindog> Question:  I need to replace original driver for my ATI card.  How do I go about that?
[04:51] <halex-ab> bdragonmsl, yeh, you're right.. heh
[04:51] <vulcanium> oh I see
[04:52] <vulcanium> I will savethat for when I boot back into ubuntu later
[04:52] <nex_> ACPI objects?
[04:52] <jordan_> raindog, What do you mean by 'replace'?
[04:52] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy its kill -9 if you know the pid, but i just wanna kill *every* firefox, so i use killall
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, killall mozilla-firefox ?
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> this doesn't work ?
[04:52] <THX-1138> vulcanium - It should be an easy fix - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  or edit the sudo gedit or sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly
[04:52] <shriphani> brb live cd booting to partition
[04:52] <WhiteNoise> will compiling a vanilla kernel with little in the way of modules cause any problems with ubuntu's hotplug bootup scripts?
[04:53] <halex-ab> wickedpuppy, killall firefox-bin works for me..
[04:53] <vulcanium> okay
[04:53] <jordan_> nex_ Is AMD considered 686?
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> so its firefox-bin
[04:53] <Djuuss> it didnt :S i told you firefox was screwing up. but i just expanded the little windows and pressed their close button, now i started it again and it works
[04:53] <halex-ab> yup..
[04:53] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, apparently the page w/ the list of automatix issues got lost... too bad.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> pls try it Djuuss try killall firefox-bin
[04:53] <THX-1138> jordab_ - i am using the k7 kernel
[04:53] <ChocoCid> blarg
[04:53] <raindog> jordan_:  I attempted to get direct rendering working by installing the glfrx driver instead of the default one Ubuntu installed as I can no longer get X to start.
[04:53] <bdragonmsl> is there a certain image I should have installed for my amd x2 4800?
[04:53] <ChocoCid> let me guess, issues with package managers somehow?
[04:54] <Djuuss> yeh it was firefox-bin :( that explains then, hehe i feel like such a noob
[04:54] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: linux smp
[04:54] <jordan_> raindog, did you make a backup of your xorg.conf?
[04:54] <docmur> If I wanted to block access to google using iptable it would be iptables -A OUTPUT
[04:54] <docmur> ????
[04:54] <raindog> jordan_:  The process I used did create a backup.
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, you be surprised ... the name for vlc is wxvlc ...
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, uh, yeah
[04:55] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: smp symetric multi processing.
[04:55] <Djuuss> i'm more of a xine/mplayer man myself
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, why block Google?  what did they *DO* to you?
[04:55] <docmur> okay ummm how to I tell it I'm using a www. address
[04:55] <jordan_> raindog, Good, then all you have to do is use the backup, I'll walk you through it.
[04:55] <AWOSDev> docmur, translate it to IP address by using nslookup
[04:55] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, that, some fairly bad coding errors, unsafe use of various override flags in apt-get... there were also personal issues with the original developer of automatix. He'd attack people who attempted to  report bugs.
[04:55] <jordan_> raindog, What was the backup called?
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> Does ubuntu normally not recognize anything??
[04:56] <ChocoCid> ah, i see
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> or do I just have a funky rig?
[04:56] <ChocoCid> bdragonmsl, hardware-wise, certain wireless cards and stuff
[04:56] <docmur> then whats the drop command
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> k, well need a restart, be back in a few
[04:56] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: Nah, usually everything is fine. for the display.
[04:56] <raindog> jordan_:  xorg.conf.0 replace or something.  I'm not entirely sure.  If I can get to the directory I'm sure I can identify it.
[04:56] <laska>  how do you navigate in console?
[04:56] <bdragonmsl> thanks guys!
[04:56] <ChocoCid> cd
[04:56] <laska> cd not working
[04:56] <ChocoCid> cd folder or cd .. to go up
[04:57] <ChocoCid> do ls to see what subdirs are there
[04:57] <jordan_> raindog, Ok, are you at a command prompt now
[04:57] <jordan_> ?
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/#
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/#
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd / home
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd / laska
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# dir
[04:57] <Madpilot> ChocoCid, the list is still up: http://www.novarata.net/comparison.html
[04:57] <laska> bin    dev   initrd          lib         mnt   root  sys  var
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:57] <laska> boot   etc   initrd.img      lost+found  opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz
[04:57] <laska> cdrom  home  initrd.img.old  media       proc  srv   usr  vmlinuz.old
[04:57] <Madpilot> laska, pastebin!
[04:57] <laska> root@laska-main:/# cd
[04:57] <raindog> jordan_:  Yes, I'm in recovery mode with a command prompt.
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> laska, pls stop it
[04:57] <halex-ab> laska: better to use ls rather than dir
[04:57] <ChocoCid> heh
[04:57] <jordan_> raindog type `cd /etc/X11/`
[04:57] <halex-ab> LOL..!
[04:57] <Madpilot> laska, I'll unmute you in a minute or three
[04:58] <THX-1138> laska - careful sysops is flexinf muscles
[04:58] <jordan_> raindog, then `ls`
[04:58] <Djuuss> ChocoCid, what did automatix do?
[04:58] <tj> i have had ubuntu installed for a while now - I unplugged /dev/hda (master - IDE0), and plugged in /dev/hdb ( made it master ) and installed XP - I then changed hdb back to slave and rebooted into Linux - edited grub to reflect the windows partition on (hd1,0) - but I get grub error 22 no partition.   Next time, use a pastebin
[04:59] <THX-1138> tj - the boot sector 1st 512 bytes is installed on the original master see ubotu's link.
[04:59] <tj> i can boot into linux - just not into windows - i guess I need to clarify
[04:59] <THX-1138> !grub
[04:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:59] <jordan_> raindog, or /etc/X11?
[04:59] <halex-ab> tj, sorry, I misunderstood..
[05:00] <halex-ab> See THX-1138's comments..
[05:00] <raindog> jordan_ I am in /etc/X11 now
[05:00] <tj> how do I get grub to see my windows partition and install ...?
[05:00] <jordan_> raindog, type `ls` to list the files in that directory.
[05:00] <halex-ab> raindog, you'll need to reinstall GRUB..
[05:00] <docmur> so I would do iptables -A OUTPUT -o ipaddress -j DROP
[05:00] <halex-ab> ~grub
[05:00] <raindog> jordan_:  I have found the backup.  It is named xorg.conf.orginal-0
[05:00] <halex-ab> !grub
[05:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:01] <ChocoCid> saving xorg is such a ridiculously good idea it's astounding
[05:01] <Djuuss> ouch tj, thats gonna be a pain, sorry i cant help much
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> docmur, so you are going to block all instance of google ?
[05:01] <ChocoCid> why i decided not to do so is beyond me
[05:01] <tj> Djuuss: why is it going to be a pain?
[05:01] <docmur> it's not google I'm blocking
[05:01] <jordan_> raindog, type `sudo cp xorg.conf.original-0 xorg.conf`
[05:01] <docmur> it's a crack site
[05:01] <docmur> but either way
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[05:02] <raindog> jordan_:  Done
[05:02] <Djuuss> tj well YMMV, but i spent ages on a similar situation your describing
[05:02] <docmur> so how would I do it providing I have an IPaddress
[05:02] <jordan_> raindog, now type sudo GDM and x *should* load properly :)
[05:03] <bdragonmsl> just looked under my device manager and it is showing the graphics card as unknown
[05:03] <tj> Djuuss: hmmm - seems simple enough - thanks though
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> docmur, i were you i search on google for iptables ... there are plenty of tutorials and examples
[05:03] <Djuuss> tj: its probly me, grub and i arent too friendly it seems
[05:04] <raindog> jordan_:  Thank you very much.  It's always good to learn more about my system.  It's working as it should now.  I guess I'll just have to get used to no 3D acceleration.
[05:04] <tj> Djuuss: i know the feeling - i have a feel for it, just thought I would pop in and see if anyone had a quick fix - that ubotu link is pretty good info
[05:04] <THX-1138> bdragonmsl: sudo lspci or lshw  should give you some info. - if you want to install an option other than vesa and generic.
[05:04] <jordan_> raindog, What instructions did you follow to get 3D working?
[05:05] <Djuuss> !postfix
[05:05] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> postfix is great but my bloody isp blocks the ports ...
[05:06] <jordan_> raindog, Because I have seen pretty bad instructions for 3d acceleration out there.
[05:06] <raindog> jordan_:  I found a entry in a dapper installation wiki that had some information that included some specifics about my video card.  I knew it could lead to problems, but according to the HOWto it sounded like I would be able to configure it correctly.
[05:06] <amicrawle> need help seeing a ntfs harddrive
[05:06] <amicrawle> how to
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> see ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> or write ?
[05:07] <amicrawle> it see is as dev/hdb1
[05:07] <amicrawle> see
[05:07] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy, i just wanted to know what it was because my apt-get dist-upgrade prompted me with one of them blue/yellow config screens for 'postfix'. i dont get why it cant just wait 10 seconds, at no input skip it, and go on updating.
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> just mount it ?
[05:07] <amicrawle> but does not mount
[05:07] <amicrawle> how
[05:07] <User23> sup
[05:07] <ChocoCid> so, i downloaded qsynaptics, and try to run it... "Please install the synaptics touchpad driver! please enable X shared memory config in XF86config"
[05:07] <jordan_> raindog, Ok, that is always a good source, and may I recommend buying an intel or nvidea card for your next upgrade :)
[05:07] <raindog> jordan_:  I'll find the link now that X is running on the previously effected machine.
[05:07] <ChocoCid> is there a better way to turn off "tap to click" than qsynaptics? :\
[05:08] <sethk> Djuuss, add that feature and submit it to the development group, they'll add it to the next release if people like it.
[05:08] <jordan_> raindog, No need, the Ubuntu wiki is very reputable.
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you got to give us more info ... what did you do ? is the hd detected ? and so on and on...
[05:08] <raindog> jordan_:  I certainly will, however, I'm using a laptop that was given to me while saving money for a new desktop.
[05:08] <amicrawle> i put it in
[05:08] <amicrawle> and etc tab is not a dir
[05:08] <amicrawle> it sayes
[05:08] <sethk> ChocoCid, that's a very very old version that you downloaded, at least two years out of date
[05:08] <Djuuss> sethk how would i go about doing that. (without using postfix ;))
[05:08] <sethk> ChocoCid, see if you can find it, or something that replaces it, that is nwere.
[05:08] <ChocoCid> well, the ubuntu wiki is 2 years out of date then :(
[05:09] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, what you saying ... makes no sense .. you put what in where ? and whats etc tab ?
[05:09] <raindog> jordan_:  It wasn't the official wiki....   http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[05:09] <sethk> Djuuss, you said you want it to assume the answer is no after a certain amount of time.  So add a feature that does so for questions asked during install.
[05:09] <jordan_> nex_, did you ever get your SMP situation worked out?
[05:09] <sethk> Djuuss, or did I misunderstand what you meant?
[05:09] <nex_> jordan_, not really
[05:09] <amicrawle> how do i mount a ntfs drive in ubnutu
[05:09] <Djuuss> sethk, you got it, i just meant how to i suggest it?
[05:09] <Djuuss> do*
[05:09] <nex_> jordan_, i was just doing some research on it
[05:09] <ChocoCid> my HDA1 drive mounted automagically this time (on edgy)
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> mount -t ntfs /dev/hd? /media/folder_name
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, you look at the source for the installation program, change it do to what you want, and submit the change
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> sudo ... pardon me
[05:10] <w30> tj, Windows wants to be booted from the first hard drive so I think you need to remap hda2 to hda1 in grub. Can't quite remember the syntax for it though.
[05:10] <[> lol
[05:10] <[> b
[05:10] <Djuuss> sethk.. heh. if i knew how to do that, i'd be using gentoo or LFS
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, then it will be accepted or not accepted.  Probably it would either be accepted, or made an optional behavior.
[05:10] <sethk> Djuuss, that makes no sense.
[05:11] <tj> w30: thanks
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, lfs perhaps.  gentoo is ... well, that's off topic, I'll get yelled at.
[05:11] <tj> w30: i'll see what I can do
[05:11] <amicrawle> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, but the whole idea of open source is that people see things they think will improve it, so they do those things, and then everyone get's the benefit of using them.
[05:11] <sethk> Djuuss, if you meant that you couldn't make that change, you underrate yourself.
[05:12] <jordan_> raindog, those instructions look good, if you are willing you can try another solution that has a slight chance of working.
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, do you have hdb1 ? sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[05:12] <Djuuss> Sethk, ok i'll try then! where would i find the source to the installation (or in this case update) thing?
[05:12] <w30> tj type grub then help map
[05:12] <sethk> Djuuss, it would take some work, surely, and the first time you delve into it is the worst, but you can do it.  If you find the idea (changing it) attractive, then try it, you'll get plenty of help.  If you don't think you would enjoy doing it, that's a different story.
[05:12] <amicrawle> yes
[05:12] <raindog> jordan_:  What do you suggest?
[05:12] <amicrawle> i have and drive
[05:13] <nex_> going to bed, gnight everyone
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, eh ah i should have said sudo fdisk -l ... you see hdb1 ?
[05:13] <amicrawle> yes
[05:13] <jordan_> raindog, type `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` and be sure to choose fglrx when asked about the driver.
[05:13] <sethk> Djuuss, there are source ubuntu repositories that have the source for everything that is used.  get onto the ubuntu site.  If you know the name of a program, you can dig out the source for it easily.  (once you learn the system, which takes a few days).
[05:13] <amicrawle> but when try to look  i get that message
[05:13] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, then the exact command you type was ?
[05:14] <w30> tj, I think the line goes map "to drive" "from drive"
[05:14] <amicrawle> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab thats what it sayes sudo  mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1
[05:14] <Djuuss> sethk i'll get to it when i up my refresh rate from 60hz to 100, i'm getting a headache. That will be after these updates finish, and after i install KDE over it
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, the thing to do would be to find out who worked on the part of the program you want to modify.  Then send an email to him, and ask him where he would start to look at something like that.
[05:14] <bashusr> is there a graphical way to edit grub.conf?
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, the command is sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/folder_name
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, ok
[05:14] <sethk> Djuuss, just a suggestion  :)
[05:14] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you got to put it somewhere
[05:15] <amicrawle> where?
[05:15] <sethk> Djuuss, I doubt you really want your vertical frequency to be 100, but definitely more than 60-
[05:15] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, create a folder in /media or anywhere .. i recommend /media .. done ?
[05:15] <sethk> Djuuss, which video board do you use?
[05:15] <purplefeltangel> what does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean
[05:15] <sethk> purplefeltangel, that's a postscript thing, usually safe to ignore
[05:15] <Djuuss> a nvidia geforce fx 5700, on a 21 inch screen. I'm gonna run it at 1600x1200 @100hz
[05:15] <jordan_> raindog, If it asks any questions you aren't sure about either trust it and just go with the default or ask here.
[05:15] <feross> bashusr: you can use gedit
[05:16] <bashusr> is there a graphical utility to edit boot options?
[05:16] <amicrawle> made it in my home
[05:16] <amicrawle> called windwos
[05:16] <purplefeltangel> what does Printing: No %BoundingBox: comment in header! mean
[05:16] <sethk> Djuuss, ok, the card should certainly handle it.  we can force it to believe you have a monitor that can handle it.
[05:16] <feross> bashusr: oh you mean like a wizard not a text editor... hmm
[05:16] <bashusr> feross: in other wards... you gotta manually edit it yourself
[05:16] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, type sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /home/username/windows <--- change username to your user name
[05:16] <bashusr> feross: yes like a wizard...
[05:16] <bashusr> fine i'll vim it.
[05:17] <Djuuss> sethk, well my monitor can handle 2048xWhathisface @ 82hz , but my eyes cant read letters that small
[05:17] <r070r0073r>
[05:17] <r070r0073r> 0.
[05:18] <swashbucklinstev> If anyone is having problems with apt lately, and you are unable to update after a new install of Dapper, please see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1364819&postcount=4 - your problem could be related to your apt.conf. It fixed me up.
[05:18] <Djuuss> My dist-upgrade is finished, one package gave an error, /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb   is that system critical?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> you use lvm ?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> purplefeltangel,  where are you seeing that at?
[05:18] <wickedpuppy> if not then shouldn't be
[05:18] <Djuuss> perhaps if i knew what lvm was i'd use it
[05:18] <Djuuss> !lvm
[05:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:18] <r070r0073r> excellent - got kismet working with the broadcom 4318...
[05:18] <raindog> jordan_:  Answering questions.....is it ctrl alt backspace to restart X?
[05:18] <Djuuss> ahhh that, no i dont
[05:19] <swashbucklinstev> Djuuss: Linux Volume Manager
[05:19] <purplefeltangel> Dr_willis: printer properties -- but never mind, i figured out what the problem was
[05:19] <wickedpuppy> i thought logical volume manager ... no ?
[05:19] <jordan_> raindog, Yes.
[05:19] <Djuuss> yeh, no i dont use it
[05:19] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: which driver are you using?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-backspace Can be set to 'force X to quit - with extreme prejudice' (ie kills X right then and there) :)
[05:19] <Djuuss> 'can be set' ? i thought it was always set like that
[05:20] <ardchoille> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Djuuss,  its often the default.. but its disabable/
[05:20] <THX-1138> Dr_willis - careful with that command ati cards dislike it better is to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:20] <Dr_willis> THX-1138,  i dont run gdm :P
[05:20] <w30> Dr_willis, how do you kill X when it takes your keyboard and mouse with it?
[05:20] <Djuuss> heh why would you disable that, its awesome
[05:20] <raindog> jordan_:  Same as before.  X server couldn't load properly.  Time to replace the xorg.conf again.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or KDM lol
[05:20] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:20] <Dr_willis> w30,  thas when you ssh in. ;p
[05:20] <AWOSDev> w30 yeah good question
[05:20] <wickedpuppy> w30, unplug the power cord
[05:20] <AWOSDev> w30 that happened to me too - the power button :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> w30,  or if cant do that.. theres buttons on the front of the pc.. :P
[05:21] <w30> wickedpuppy, yah that works
[05:21] <Djuuss> uh oh
[05:22] <w30> wickedpuppy, go to the closet and filp the switch that says MAIN
[05:22] <Djuuss> i'm getting worried, apt-get dist-upgrade finished, i did apt-get check and it didnt find any dependancy issues.. then i typed apt-get install on a whim and now its installing loads of stuff. Should i worry?
[05:22] <cod>   How hard is it to replace nautilus with something else?
[05:22] <feross> bashusr: hmm looks like there was a grubconf but I can't find it in current repos
[05:22] <wickedpuppy> why need to off everything in the house ? :P
[05:22] <laska> Guys, here is situation: want to watch stream video, win media format, at yahoo music videos, Have Firefox. What do i have to do?
[05:22] <bashusr> feross: no problem...
[05:22] <bashusr> i'm good with vim :)
[05:22] <bashusr> i'm just trying to do it the "ubuntu" way
[05:23] <w30> wickedpuppy, then all the clocks say 88
[05:23] <ChocoCid> why? the whole point of linux is that you can do stuff how you want
[05:23] <laska> did install extension win media connectivity, not working
[05:23] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <Dr_willis> laska,  i saw a firefox exenesion the othe day that can 'smart download' videos from a lot of those sites.. makes it easie to play them after they are downloaded. :P not embeded
[05:24] <Djuuss> laska, apt-get cache-search mplayer
[05:24] <amicrawle> ok it is mounted on /
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> ChocoCid, not true .. linux can't make my computer fly :P
[05:24] <amicrawle> how to retrive the stuff now
[05:24] <ChocoCid> sure it can, take your linux computer on a plane
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, on / ? what happened to ya home/username/windows ?
[05:24] <r070r0073r> swashbucklinstev - windows broadcom driver (bcm43xx-fwcutter bcmv15.sys).
[05:25] <ChocoCid> F broadcom for not working right on linux
[05:25] <JSeligstein> Oooh Ubuntu auto-configures grub for you??? nice...
[05:25] <laska> E: Invalid operation cache-search
[05:25] <cynical> laska: doing sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine totem-xine-firefox-plugin will let you play any media (assuming you have w32codecs installed)
[05:25] <amicrawle> do i do a umount to unmonut
[05:25] <r070r0073r> works fine for me... i am using it with kismet as we speak.
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> k, re-installed the drivers for glx, and tried to run the driver and this is what i got...
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[05:25] <bdragonmsl> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[05:25] <ChocoCid> how do i get broadcom to work on edgy? same way as dapper?
[05:25] <Djuuss> wickedpuppy, it could if you had two external fans, one on the top aiming down and one on an extended piece of metal aiming clockwise, connected to your pc by serial port
[05:25] <sethk> bdragonmsl, the nvidia kernel module is not installed
[05:25] <THX-1138> !cafuego
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafuego - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, why you want to umount if you want to get things ?
[05:26] <bdragonmsl> where's that?
[05:26] <w30> ChocoCid, depends on what kid of batteries it has nowadays eh?
[05:26] <THX-1138> !seveas
[05:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:26] <amicrawle> to make a new dir
[05:26] <w30> kid/kind
[05:26] <cod>   ------  is it possible to make drawer icons bigger than 48 pixels?
[05:26] <ChocoCid> haha
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> Djuuss, i will keep that in mind :P
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, it is part of the package that is downloaded from the nivida web site.
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, I'm not sure where it is in repositories
[05:26] <amicrawle> make  a /home/user/windows
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, well then yah umount and mount it where you want it to be
[05:26] <laska> is only available from another source
[05:26] <laska> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[05:26] <laska> root@laska-main:/home#
[05:26] <r070r0073r> you catch that?
[05:26] <sethk> bdragonmsl, to use the stuff from nvidia.org, you must be able to install kernel source and build the kernel.
[05:26] <amicrawle> umount: /: device is busy
[05:26] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: ah, I figured you would, the linux drivers aren't mature yet but they're in the kernel or so I heard. I have a HP Pavilion dv5210us with a Broadcom bcm43xx card, where do you pick up the driver again?
[05:27] <sethk> bdragonmsl, it's not difficult to do, but it scares lot's of people.
[05:27] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, are you currently in it ?
[05:27] <r070r0073r> swashbucklinstev
[05:27] <amicrawle> no trying to get to it
[05:27] <laska> id on't think have xine. Totem
[05:27] <bdragonmsl> so, do I just need to goto nvidia and download their core?
[05:27] <bdragonmsl> I mean kernel
[05:27] <sureshot> does anyone here use cedega if so do you knowwere i can get the updates manually .. the cedega channel is a ghost channel
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, whats the dir name you mounted in ?
[05:28] <amicrawle> i made it in /
[05:28] <r070r0073r> i am using an acer laptop and got it from their website (acer).
[05:28] <Djuuss> sureshot, try bittorrent.. o wait, warez are offtopic
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, you can't mount to / ... / is root partition
[05:28] <amicrawle> i want to chage it to my user dir
[05:28] <r070r0073r> winners don't do warez
[05:28] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: I bet HP has it then :-)
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, did you do mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 / ?
[05:28] <JamesFoster> Djuuss: I don't think Cedega binaries are "warez". They're not illegal, as far as I can tell.
[05:28] <r070r0073r> ya... i've got a screencap vid of what i had to do if you need help.
[05:29] <sureshot> i bought it
[05:29] <amicrawle> yes sayes it is mounted
[05:29] <Djuuss> well they are commercial apps that youre supposed to pay for in order to download
[05:29] <munkay> has anyone had any success with built-in sd/mmc card readers for laptops ?
[05:29] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: ndiswrapper seems pretty straight forward, is there anything that surprised you like maybe an unexpected configuration step? special settings?
[05:30] <JamesFoster> They don't get commonly distributed because Transgaming chucks a tantrum and threatens to stop distributing the source under the license it currently is using.
[05:30] <johny5> I used Automatix to install a couple of CD burning apps, and now all I get are coasters when I try to burn audio discs from MP3s.  Can anybody help me rectify this?
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, ah ... when you go to / ... what do you see ? /bin /etc and so on ?
[05:30] <Djuuss> jamesfoster .. what??
[05:30] <r070r0073r> nope... was pretty simple. i understand the broadcom drivers have been reverse engineered http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=410460
[05:30] <r070r0073r> didn't have much luck w/ them though
[05:30] <bdragonmsl> I found something in synaptic under nvidia kernel.  Says it's installed though.
[05:31] <sureshot> well it locks up in ubuntu just wanted some info did not mean to put someone in a tiff just a question if any could answer i would be appreciative
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> johny5, moral of the story is never use automatix ... second what cd burning apps did the script install ?
[05:31] <johny5> gnomebaker
[05:31] <johny5> My first time with Automatix.  I guess it's no good?
[05:31] <JamesFoster> Djuuss: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/05/msg02823.html
[05:31] <Djuuss> sureshot, technically you can be appreciative without anyone answering your question
[05:31] <r070r0073r> i wonder if aircrack will run on it, swashbucklinstev
[05:31] <Djuuss> thanks jamesfoster
[05:31] <r070r0073r> ;)
[05:31] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: yeah, they need tlc, I doubt they'll get it though when ndiswrapper is so easy and cheap (effort)
[05:31] <THX-1138> broadcom drivers reverse engineeered? - great now i can be arrested for the digital millenium copyright act. - ain't america grand.
[05:31] <johny5> wickedpuppy, but now none of the cd burning apps work.
[05:32] <ardchoille> johny5: Are you trying to burn something that you don't have read access to? gnomebaker won't give an error for that, it'll just burn a coaster.
[05:32] <Djuuss> sureshot: to answer your question, www.btjunkies.com, type cedega in search
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> johny5, what apps ? you said gnomebaker .. what else ?
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> I really do heart ndiswrapper
[05:32] <w30> if you get the install program off Nvidia.com don't use the Ubuntu synaptic sources too because they will fight each other.
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: I blame Abramoff
[05:32] <swashbucklinstev> :-D
[05:32] <bdragonmsl> ***w30, I tried that several times and it's just not working
[05:32] <johny5> wickedpuppy, I have rw access to everything.  It will decode the tracks fine, but when it gets about halfway through the burn, it freaks out
[05:33] <bdragonmsl> Should I just try to go back to 6.06?
[05:33] <r070r0073r> but i didn't think you could run kismet w/ ndiswrapper + broadcom... maybe you just want the device to work period. ;)
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> johny5, just gnomebaker ? then uninstall it
[05:33] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a communist - lol
[05:33] <sureshot> thanks wickedpuppy some people here are just too good to answer someone question that he cant find the answer to anyware would ask if it could have the cedega channel is a ghost town
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> and reinstall it from synaptic or apt-get ... it burns fine ..
[05:33] <johny5> Uninstalling...
[05:33] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: :-D
[05:33] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev - Mickey Mouse is a facsist??
[05:33] <w30> bdragonmsl, if you make your own kernel compile then you probably need the nvidia.com installer.
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> sureshot, you sure its me ?
[05:33] <r070r0073r> catch ya later, swashbucklinstev - check out my site sometime -- http://passivemode.net
[05:34] <jordan> raindog, I got disconnected for a while so if you asked me any questions after the one about ctrl alt backspace you are going to have to repeat them.
[05:34] <swashbucklinstev> r070r0073r: cool, thx
[05:34] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: Is there any limit to his deprevity?
[05:34] <r070r0073r> <- needs to sudo apt-get install life
[05:34] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev: rofl
[05:34] <sureshot> miss read i am diabetic eyes are not to good but thanks anyway
[05:34] <Lane> I have some questions that begin "What distro is best for ...". Is there a channel that caters to these questions
[05:34] <johny5> Still no good.
[05:35] <mlwalla> Hey all.  Long time noob, first time question-asker.  trying to configure the proprietary nvidia driver, and having trouble.  Is there anyway to redirect the error messages from xserver (xwindows?) to a file that can be used for later reference.  Further, is it possible to make that happen automatically with startup?  The problem I'm having is that when I hit ctrl+alt+bckspc to test my xorg.conf settings.  Any help appreciated so t
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> johny5, pls ... explain...
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> Lane, yes
[05:35] <JSeligstein> Hey guys, whats the correct process for installing something? sudo apt-get mysql ? say?
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> to all your answers , pls use ubuntu
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Lane,  most all the disrtos can do the same jobs.. some are just designed with a specific job in mind from the start. :)   so often the best is the one that you know best.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:35] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:35] <w30> bdragonmsl, then there is the nvidia-xconfig to configure xorg.conf for you.
[05:35] <amicrawle> ok got it mounted
[05:36] <amicrawle> now there is a lock on it
[05:36] <amicrawle> how to unlock it
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, use sudo
[05:36] <johny5> wickedpuppy, removed gnomebaker and tried to burn disk with Serpentine...now it won't even decode the MP3
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> or chmod
[05:36] <sureshot> djuuss that was a good url to get rid of me thanks for nothing
[05:36] <Lane> Dr_willis, I know mepis best but I don't think I want to use it as a web/dns server.
[05:36] <JSeligstein> Dr_willis, and do i need to do an upadte ?
[05:36] <amicrawle> `windows': Read-only file system
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Lane,  you could...
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> johny5, use k3b ...
[05:36] <bsnider> is there an x configuration program?
[05:36] <Djuuss> sureshot, my intentions were not to get rid of you. I downloaded cedega from there just yesterday
[05:36] <THX-1138> swashbucklinstev: Mickey Mouse is baphonet - yes! baphonet.
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, use chmod
[05:37] <Lane> Dr_willis, not saying I couldn't.
[05:37] <jordan> raindog, I got disconnected, how is the dpkg-reconfigure going?
[05:37] <amicrawle> chmod to what
[05:37] <amicrawle> a+rx ?
[05:37] <amicrawle> a+RR
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Lane,  and from what i gatehr Mepis is  basicially using all the ubuntu repos/packages now.. and some extras..
[05:37] <amicrawle> ?????
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, 775 or 777 ...
[05:37] <mlwalla> edit: the problem is that my system hangs when I restart X to see if I got things working
[05:37] <sureshot> that was www.btjunkies.com i got homes for sell and such
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> it need not be secured anyway .. its your own machine
[05:37] <jordan> bsnider, Sort of, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` but that probably isn't what you want.
[05:38] <amicrawle> chmod: changing permissions of `windows': Read-only file system
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Lane,  of course the heart of the disrtos are the apt-get system I guess..and the debian  type core..   the rest is just frosting on the server-cake :)
[05:38] <amicrawle> sudo chmod 777 windows
[05:38] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, btw .. read only means you can still copy .. are you tryring to write ?
[05:38] <Lane> Dr_willis, Great, debian it is.
[05:38] <stargazer> i am trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy and after 2 hours of downloading it saids "error reading from server, unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[05:38] <Djuuss> sureshot, whoops, typo, i'm looking for the proper address now
[05:38] <stargazer> what does this mean?
[05:38] <amicrawle> no just trying to look
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, then just cd ...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Lane,  thats always good. :P   of course once ya learn the fundamentals.. the rest is easy
[05:39] <johny5> wickedpuppy, k3b is saying unable to handle files due to unsupported format
[05:39] <amicrawle> cd: windows: Permission denied
[05:39] <sureshot> thanks and i applogize for my attitude
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> johny5, you need to get restricted modules ...
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, may i ask what you typed ?
[05:40] <swashbucklinstev> THX-1138: It may be worse than that!
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:40] <amicrawle> cd windows
[05:40] <Lane> Dr_willis, My nokia runs debian, my laptop runs debian, and my future web/dns server runs debian... if only it could run IOS like my routers
[05:40] <spasmodo> !dvd
[05:40] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:40] <amicrawle> bash: cd: windows: Permission denied
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Lane,  my NSLU2 runs a debian variant now. :P
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, ls -l and paste to us the permission pls
[05:40] <wickedpuppy> just the windows
[05:41] <Lane> Dr_willis, NSLU2?
[05:41] <amicrawle> dr-x------  1 root       root
[05:41] <wickedpuppy> amicrawle, sudo cd
[05:41] <amicrawle> that is what it is
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Lane,  a little fileserver. has 2 usb ports for hard drives.. by Linksys. about $80
[05:41] <jordan> sudo cd won't work.
[05:41] <Djuuss> brb restarting in what i hope will be 6.06
[05:41] <Lane> Dr_willis, cool deal I will have to check it out.
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> jordan, can help him ? i going for lunch ...
[05:42] <brian98> anyone know if apache 1.3 or 2.x can do .net stuff?
[05:42] <mlwalla> wow...lotta questions flying around in here
[05:42] <brian98> or should i go to #apache
[05:42] <jordan> wickedpuppy, What is he trying to do?
[05:42] <AngryParsley> ehh, there is a mod_mono
[05:42] <AngryParsley> but it sucks
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> brian98, go into that dir
[05:42] <Lane> Dr_willis, reccomended mirror for debian? Or should I use torrent?
[05:42] <mlwalla> is it proper etiquette to just keep asking til someone notices yours?
[05:42] <jordan> Then yes.
[05:43] <AngryParsley> brian98: ask about it in #apache
[05:43] <AWOSDev> brian98, it can host sites that end in .net
[05:43] <AWOSDev> :)
[05:43] <brian98> k
[05:43] <amicrawle> can any body help me
[05:43] <brian98> just I have been
[05:43] <johny5> wickedpuppy, it would seem that I already have them.
[05:43] <jordan> amicrawle, type `sudo su`
[05:43] <brian98> installing ubuntu severs now for a long time
[05:43] <wickedpuppy> Lane, if you have to ask us for everything .... i don't think you are ready for linux .. pls use google ...
[05:43] <brian98> and someone want windows 2003 with msssql
[05:43] <stargazer> ok
[05:43] <JoelS2>  if i connect ethernet after linux boots, how do i tell it to refresh? i thought it was ifconfig eth0 up but it didn't work.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Lane,  your speeds may vary. :P my torrent speeds are always slow. :(
[05:43] <brian98> and I really don't want the hassle ;)
[05:43] <stargazer> can you answer this? how do you save in vi?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !vi
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <JoelS2> stargazer, :w
[05:44] <AWOSDev> JoelS2, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:44] <Dr_willis> esc :wq
[05:44] <JoelS2> AWOSDev, thanks!!
[05:44] <brian98> !vim
[05:44] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> johny5, well .. i never use automatix so can't say whats ya machine is like now ...
[05:44] <AWOSDev> JoelS2 np
[05:44] <Dr_willis> :help    -- is handy to rember in vi as well
[05:44] <AWOSDev> I love vi :)
[05:44] <johny5> wickedpuppy, first and last time for me.  thanks for your help.
[05:44] <brian98> Dr_willis,  I prever nano
[05:44] <jordan> amicrawle, Then you should be able to `cd windows`
[05:44] <JoelS2> AWOSDev, command not found?
[05:44] <wickedpuppy> johny5, no prob ... :P
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> JoelS2, may we ask what you typed ? exactly
[05:45] <brian98> Dr_willis, I guess it's because I used wordstar in the 80's
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> oh wrong person
[05:45] <JoelS2> Exactyly what you typed
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> lunch time!
[05:45] <amicrawle> ok did now how do i see the folder  user mode with out
[05:45] <Dr_willis> NerdStar :)
[05:45] <Lane> Dr_willis, my torrent speeds are also slow...should I suspect throttling?
[05:45] <w30> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:45] <swashbucklinstev> I'm gettin out of here, twilight zone is on
[05:45] <brian98> Lane, it's usual to happen
[05:46] <wicked_lunch> eh jordan can also remind him not to use root shell always ? thanks
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Lane,  no idea there.. ive gotten good speeds on some torrents.. like ISO's when first released...  so it all depends on the torrents i guess
[05:46] <THX-1138> Lane - yes. most isps find it fashionable
[05:46] <JoelS2> Ah okay... going to check, thanks :)
[05:46] <dash`> anybody have experience with ssh and sshfs ?
[05:47] <Lane> Throttling seems to be a hot subject.
[05:48] <jordan> amicrawle, Now you want to make that folder readable by your normal, non root, user with chown...
[05:48] <johny5> wicked_lunch, that was rather silly of me...didn't install the k3b mp3 decoder lib....thanks again.
[05:48] <THX-1138> Lane - If you pay for 600kbs down and 325kbs a second up why should you be able to use it all? - heck they already limit upspeed right?
[05:49] <morriganinfligh1> helo?
[05:49] <amicrawle> so i do a chow /home/user/windwos?
[05:49] <jordan> amicrawle, To do that first get out of that directory with `cd ..`
[05:49] <morriganinfligh1> does anyone here know anything about rhythmbox?
[05:49] <jordan> amicrawle, Exactly.
[05:49] <Lane> THX-1138, Can you send me proof that throttling happens? I mean I don't doubt that it does I just haven't seen solid proof.
[05:50] <amicrawle> bash: chow: command not found
[05:50] <THX-1138> Hi cafuego.
[05:50] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`
[05:50] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: someone probably knows something about it
[05:50] <Larken> hello~
[05:50] <THX-1138> cafuego - Were you hosting a broadcom driver?
[05:51] <morriganinfligh1> thanks jrib...I'm new to ubuntu and to IRC..please forgive any unintended blunders
[05:51] <devnull> my gnome-panel's aren't working or responding to input anymore .... anyone run into this problem before ?
[05:51] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: it's best to just ask your real question and then see if anyone can answer it :)
[05:51] <amicrawle> chow: command not found
[05:51] <THX-1138> devnull - are you using glx?
[05:51] <jrib> amicrawle: chown  with an 'n'
[05:51] <jordan> amicrale chowN.
[05:51] <devnull> THX-1138, no im not
[05:52] <THX-1138> devnull - that was my guess. - sry
[05:52] <morriganinfligh1> *grin* thanks again, jrib....I am trying to figure out how to alter audio file properties so that rhythmbox will read the artist, title, etc
[05:52] <amicrawle> ok how do i chown the hole folder
[05:52] <devnull> hehe thank you though
[05:52] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown yourUserName folderPath`
[05:52] <JoelS> OKay, I still can't get an internet connection... does it matter if it tries to use IPv6 or IPv4?
[05:53] <Gigiya> hello
[05:53] <AWOSDev> IPv4
[05:53] <ellioTb> what up
[05:53] <devnull> i would actually like to switch over to xfce but i can't find replacements for some gnome-applets and software
[05:53] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows
[05:53] <JoelS> AWOSDev, it appears to be trying to use IPv6
[05:53] <w30> Lane, play with this:http://www.zdnet.com.au/broadband/speedtest.htm
[05:53] <THX-1138> devnull - do you have something added launched using Sessions .. Start Up programs?
[05:53] <Gigiya> i'm new to IRC and pretty new to ubuntu
[05:53] <Larken> I've recently aquired a live disk from one of my teachers, and I tried to install it on an old laptop (it was dropped, spits out the OS NOT FOUND error.) I get to the Ubuntu startup and say run/install or something of the like and then it starts to boot/install. However, once it gets to "Configuring X" it seems to shut down and goes back to a blank blinking prompt. No keys then work and it has to be restarted. Any ideas?
[05:53] <ellioTb> devnull, why do you have to replace them? i am in xfce and everything is working for me
[05:53] <ellioTb> Gigiya, me too
[05:53] <djuuss> err
[05:53] <Lane> OK, now I feel like an idiot but ia64 is the distro I download for the standard 64bit i386 chipset?
[05:53] <morriganinfligh1> me three, gig
[05:53] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `/home/amicrawler/windows
[05:53] <Lane> Never done the 64 bit thing with linux.
[05:53] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:53] <amicrawle> any clues
[05:53] <ColonelPanic001> I have a USB card-reader which normally works beautifully, but now for seemingly no reason I notice the power light on it isn't even on. Is there something that could have "turned off" the USB ports?
[05:54] <djuuss> ok problem: i cant log in to X as a normal user, because of ownership problems with my home directory
[05:54] <devnull> THX-1138, nothing i added manualy but i think it might be deskbar on the panel that is messing it up
[05:54] <JoelS> AWOSDev, unless its my ISP, something is wrong, DHCP isn't working correctly or something
[05:54] <AWOSDev> JoelS, IPv4 but I'm not sure how
[05:54] <jordan> amicrawle, What are you typing exactly?
[05:54] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: it should just read the tags on the file automatically.  What does rhythmbox do currently for you?  Does it just display the filename instead?
[05:54] <w30> Lane, ia64 is Itaniam
[05:54] <AWOSDev> JoelS, I'll try helping in a little bit, I'm kinda busy right now
[05:54] <feross> Larken: when you say 'old' laptop how old are we talking.. PII ?
[05:54] <amicrawle> sudo chown -R /home/amicrawler/windows
[05:54] <Lane> well freak
[05:54] <JoelS> Anyone else know how to force IPv4?
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, why don't you just install xfce and check it out, takes like 30 secs to install, and then you can just swtich over to it, to see if you like it
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, i need something to change my cpu speed
[05:55] <ColonelPanic001> no ideas, anyone?
[05:55] <THX-1138> devnull - ah. okay. i am 2 for 2 wrong can i stop guessing now?
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, no...
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, i have had xfce on here for awhile
[05:55] <ghost> hi
[05:55] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: or do you just want to edit the current tags?
[05:55] <Larken> feross- lemme look it up, haven't used it in ages
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, ahh, change your CPU speed? never heard of that
[05:55] <devnull> ellioTb, that is why i installed ubuntu originally but found that gnome finally got their act together
[05:55] <ghost> who can help me
[05:55] <morriganinfligh1> jrib - on some of the files it reads everything...on other files there are no tags...so perhaps my question should be how to add tags?
[05:55] <jordan> amicrawle, You forgot the user name.
[05:55] <ellioTb> devnull, yeah, i just use xfce cause i am on an older laptop with not much ram
[05:55] <devnull> THX-1138, it probably is something starting up in the session
[05:55] <morriganinfligh1> (you got there be foer me *grin*(
[05:55] <amicrawle> chown: missing operand after `amicrawler/windows'
[05:56] <amicrawle> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[05:56] <devnull> ellioTb, technically i guess i have xubuntu though i have gnome completely installed aswell
[05:56] <amicrawle> can you spell it out 4 me please
[05:56] <jordan> amicrawle, you need to be sure you follow this exactly...
[05:56] <`kaot> Hi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?
[05:56] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: ah, well there is a nice tool called 'easytag' you can install.  I also believe you can right click on the file listed in rythmbox and edit its properties that way too.  If you want to try easytag, you'll need to have enabled the universe repository
[05:56] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R yourUserName folderPath` To change the folder AND everything in it.
[05:56] <ghost> question : which package needed when i install alsa
[05:57] <THX-1138> devnull - careful, modifying it leaves no way to back up un modified version.
[05:57] <ellioTb> devnull, yeah, i am ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop installed
[05:57] <Lane> w30, should I get the i386 then?
[05:57] <crimsun> ghost: alsa's already installed by default
[05:57] <jordan> amicrawle, I think you are forgetting the user name.
[05:57] <ghost> no
[05:57] <devnull> THX-1138, are you talking about the session file ?
[05:57] <morriganinfligh1> ok, jrib...where do I get easytag and and how do I enable universe repository?
[05:57] <Larken> feross- pIII
[05:57] <morriganinfligh1> (btw, jrib, really appreciate the help)
[05:58] <amicrawle> is my user name amicrawle
[05:58] <ColonelPanic001> anyone know anything about USB devices suddenly and seemingly randomly shutting off completely?
[05:58] <amicrawle> is my user name amicrawler
[05:58] <w30> Lane, do you have a 64bit box?
[05:58] <devnull> im just glad i found a good session extension for firefox because i missed session support from galeon
[05:58] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: system > administration > synaptic is the tool you should use to install your software (or add/remove programs as well).  I'll have ubotu send you the information for the universe repository
[05:58] <jrib> ubotu: tell morriganinfligh1 about universe
[05:58] <Lane> w30, It is in the mail.
[05:58] <jordan> amicrawle, To check type exit, then cd ~
[05:58] <PFA> on opera, FLash only plays 2 seconds of any video with no sound. on firefox it will completely play but there is no sound. how do i fix these problems. please do not point me to RestrictedFormats.
[05:59] <jrib> PFA: did you setup aoss?
[05:59] <Dr_willis> flash is a bit of a disaster at this time... :(
[05:59] <amicrawle> ok did
[05:59] <PFA> jrib: i'm not sure
[05:59] <ghost> ........
[05:59] <w30> Lane, Is your 64 bit box or your 32bit box in the mail?
[05:59] <jrib> PFA: that's what is on restrictedformats ;)
[05:59] <`kaot> Hi folks.  IDE cdrom drive(s) not working on a system with SATA.  Anyone know anything about this?
[05:59] <jordan> now cd ..
[05:59] <feross> Larken: hmm not too bad. when you boot look at the boot options, could try different video settings.
[05:59] <Lane> w30, 64bit.
[05:59] <amicrawle> k
[05:59] <beefsprocket> anyone want to give me a hand with debootstrap? got a peculiar error
[06:00] <Larken> feross- I've just rebooted
[06:00] <morriganinfligh1> thanks jrib andubotu....now I have a starting place...much appreciated!
[06:00] <Larken> feross- what should I try?
[06:00] <jordan> amicrawle, BTW, I am tired right now, there are easier ways of doing this I just can't remember :)
[06:00] <jrib> PFA: there is a troubleshooting section for flash, taht should resolve your firefox flash sound problem.  I don't know about opera
[06:00] <jrib> morriganinfligh1: np
[06:00] <jordan> amicrawle, now type ls
[06:00] <feross> Larken: hold a sec.. brb
[06:00] <ColonelPanic001> very strange. Usually kubuntu even auto-mounts the usb card reader and everything
[06:01] <jordan> amicrawle, That should show you your user name.
[06:01] <ALMimoni> hi, i have creative live! card and it's doesnt run on ubuntu but run on fedora, can i copy /etc folder to ubuntu to get works?
[06:02] <amicrawle> pwd
[06:02] <ALMimoni> *sound card
[06:02] <yokobr> heeeelp! i can boot anything from cd here =/
[06:02] <amicrawle> ...   /home/amicrawler
[06:02] <w30> Lane you can install the 386 install on the 64 bit box ok and it will run at 32 bit. If you install the 64 bit install it will run at 64 bit which is better. However you will have problems getting some 3rd party stuff going on 64 bit installs like flash player and some codecs and RealPlayer.
[06:02] <THX-1138> !soundblaster
[06:02] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[06:02] <JSeligstein> Siiiiigh
[06:02] <jordan> amicrawle, Good, then your username is amicrawle
[06:02] <PFA> jrib: okay, it's all well and good, but . . . i hate Firefox and i would much rather use Opera.
[06:03] <jordan> amicrawle, What is the directory again?
[06:03] <orbin> yokobr: set it in bios?
[06:03] <THX-1138> !PFA - It is in the commercial non-free repository.
[06:03] <amicrawle> windows
[06:03] <Lane> w30, I know that I want to run the 64 bit version. The problem is at: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ there is no 64 bit install
[06:03] <beefsprocket> debootstrap anyone?
[06:03] <amicrawle> .. /home/amicrawler/windows
[06:03] <jordan> amicrawle, the full path.
[06:03] <PFA> THX-1138: yes, i have opera installed -- i'm talking about flash; there's a fix for firefox but not opera
[06:03] <jordan> sry
[06:04] <jrib> PFA: on opera the video fails you said right?
[06:04] <PFA> jrib: yeah
[06:04] <jordan> amicrawle, `sudo chown -R amicrawle  /home/amicrawler/windows` should do it
[06:04] <jrib> PFA: yeah I have no idea why flash would work for a bit and just stop
[06:05] <PFA> sigh okay, jrib thanks anyway
[06:05] <THX-1138> PFA - I don't enable jave. - sorry.
[06:05] <Draccy> I'm having trouble getting mkfs to work. How do I make the entire drive /dev/hdb1 with reiserfs using mkfs?
[06:05] <PFA> bye
[06:05] <Lam_> !mplayer
[06:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:05] <w30> Lane, I am running 64 bit Ubuntu; I don't know about Debian except that Ubuntu is Debian under the hood so what gives? There has to be a 64 bit debian somewhere
[06:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:06] <jordan> amicrawle, Did that command work?
[06:06] <Draccy> ext3 is fine if you prefer.
[06:06] <yokobr> yeap, when i try to boot from cd, many errors, in any OS
[06:06] <amicrawle> chown: changing ownership of `/home/amicrawler/windows': Read-only file system
[06:06] <orbin> Draccy: tried googling for tutes?  i usually just use gparted/qtparted
[06:06] <amicrawle> still a lock on it
[06:07] <Draccy> orbin, gparted doesn't seem up to the task of completely formatting the drive. It bitches.
[06:07] <amicrawle> it;s owned by root
[06:07] <Draccy> Pardon my language if it's vulgar.
[06:07] <jordan> amicrawle, any error when you ran the command?
[06:07] <amicrawle> it;s owned by root
[06:08] <beefsprocket> Draccy: you tried mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdb1
[06:08] <jordan> amicrawle, Did you type sudo when you ran the command?
[06:08] <beefsprocket> Draccy: or mkreiserfs ?
[06:08] <amicrawle> yes
[06:09] <jordan> amicrawle, I guess I am too tired to be helping then because I thought for sure that would work.
[06:09] <djuuss> Ok problem: I cant use normal users. When i boot up, i get a terminal, not x. I can log in as a user, but users dont have permission to enter /home, not even if i sudo chown <user> home
[06:09] <amicrawle> how do i get a  suoer user  gui  home
[06:09] <amicrawle> how do i get a  super user  gui  home
[06:09] <ChocoCid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:09] <Dr_willis> amicrawle,  best to stickto the shell to do super-user-stuff
[06:09] <jordan> amicrawle, sudo nautilus, but you shouldn't use it often, it's not secure.
[06:09] <THX-1138> !rootsudo
[06:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:10] <ChocoCid> er, wrong one
[06:10] <ChocoCid> i think
[06:10] <ChocoCid> ah, no, it's on there
[06:10] <jirwin> hey there. I just installed 6.06.1, and it would seem that after a short amount of time all of my usb devices, and have to restart to get them back
[06:10] <ChocoCid> at the bottom
[06:10] <djuuss> chococid was that for me?
[06:10] <ChocoCid> yeah
[06:10] <jirwin> anyone have any ideas on what it would be?
[06:10] <ChocoCid> that's got graphical login
[06:10] <ChocoCid> (as root)
[06:10] <djuuss> well i have that, its just that users dont have permission to enter /home/ and can therefor not be used
[06:10] <jordan> ChocoCid, I am not sure he neads that.
[06:11] <jordan> amicrawle, try `sudo nautilus`
[06:11] <djuuss> if i have a rj@mypc:~ $ cd /home/rj
[06:11] <jordan> amicrawle, Then you should be able to change the privaleges with the GUI.
[06:11] <djuuss> i get ' no permission'
[06:12] <ChocoCid> uh
[06:12] <ChocoCid> actually that was for amicrawle heh
[06:12] <beefsprocket> djuuss: take a look at /etc/group
[06:12] <ChocoCid> sorry
[06:12] <ChocoCid> two similar questions at the same time :P
[06:12] <djuuss> ouch.. quote from page: NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail. If this happens and at login an error message reports: "Unable to read ICE authority file", log in using the failsafe terminal and execute the command below substituting user for your username.
[06:12] <ChocoCid> yeah, that's why you do gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit
[06:13] <w30> Lane, go here for 64 bit Debian:http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/
[06:13] <godtvisken> does anyone know how to get user input in a batch program in DOS?
[06:13] <djuuss> chococid, or sudo startx
[06:13] <ltR20> i want to make another partition, i cant select "new" in gparted
[06:13] <ltR20> everything is greyed + locks
[06:13] <feross> Larken: hey
[06:13] <orbin> godtvisken: kind of offtopic don't ya think? ;)
[06:14] <w30> Lane Debian does not have an official stable release for 64 bit, I heard they were conservative now I know they are.
[06:14] <Larken> feross-yo
[06:14] <Lane> w30, thank you for your help.
[06:14] <feross> Larken: so what are the options?
[06:14] <jordan> w30, but they will soon.
[06:14] <djuuss> but now i have a bigger problem, 'rj'  isnt allowed to enter '/home/rj'
[06:14] <beefsprocket> w30: 64bit etch is very stable
[06:14] <Larken> feross: In the other options? as in when I press f6?
[06:15] <feross> Larken: yeah, look for video related options
[06:15] <jordan> amicrawle, Are you still having problems?
[06:15] <samuel> i'm looking for an msn compatible client that supports camera function. Any suggestions?
[06:15] <w30> jordan, I think stable to Debian is different than stable to other distros. like a rock I quess?
[06:15] <orbin> ltR20: the partitions have to be unmounted to be manipulated.
[06:15] <djuuss> samuel, i hear gaim got webcam recently
[06:16] <beefsprocket> samuel: kopete, amsn, gaim
[06:16] <Larken> Feross: It says Boot Options ._.size=1048576 root=/dev/ram rw quiet splash
[06:16] <jordan> w30, Definately debian stable will run for 100 years strait if the hardware keeps up :)
[06:16] <Alien|Freak> how do I check what files a certain package installed?
[06:16] <samuel> and voice mail to?
[06:16] <jrib> Alien|Freak: dpkg -L package
[06:16] <feross> Larken: nothing on video?
[06:17] <Alien|Freak> thx jrib
[06:17] <beefsprocket> Alien|Freak: try dpkg -L packagename
[06:17] <Larken> Feross: Thats all it says below the screen when I press f6
[06:18] <tekian_> Can someone pleaseeee help me figure out why my subwoofer doesn't work?
[06:18] <beefsprocket> djuuss: how you making out there?
[06:18] <jirwin> does anyone have any idea why I am losing all of my USB devices?
[06:18] <ColonelPanic001> did they just suddenly seem like they came unplugged?
[06:18] <ColonelPanic001> as in, power light is off and everything?
[06:19] <jirwin> ColonelPanic001: yah
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> Same here.
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> No idea.
[06:19] <jirwin> and now none of the ports work. I have to restart
[06:19] <djuuss> beefsprocket crutching my way through the molasses that is chmod
[06:19] <jirwin> what is your computer?
[06:19] <ColonelPanic001> I refuse to restart. heh
[06:19] <tekian_> !e1705
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about e1705 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <tekian_> !HDA Intel
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about HDA Intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <feross> Larken: what laptop is it? brand,model, etc
[06:20] <jirwin> what type of computer do you have ColonelPanic001 ?
[06:20] <djuuss> beefsprocket, ok im officially stuck.
[06:20] <tekian_> !alsa
[06:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:20] <ColonelPanic001> Uh, a mish-mash of part parts I bought
[06:20] <beefsprocket> djuuss: who owns your home directory?
[06:20] <jirwin> ahh ok. So it isn't limited to my model of laptop...phew.
[06:20] <Larken> Compaq Presario 1200 XL110
[06:20] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[06:21] <AWOSDev> Presario 1200?  the old one or the new one?
[06:21] <djuuss> beefsprocket err, i think root does
[06:21] <Larken> Old one
[06:21] <AWOSDev> they had a 1200 that was a Pentium MMX 150MHz
[06:21] <AWOSDev> coolness
[06:21] <AWOSDev> I have an LTE 5150
[06:21] <ellioTb> just ordered more ram to up this laptop to 512megs, this thing seems SOOOO slow
[06:21] <samuel> how can i install amsn in a terminal?
[06:21] <ellioTb> is there anything else that could make it so slow
[06:21] <tekian_> samuel:sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:22] <ltR20> orbin, how do i do that?
[06:22] <beefsprocket> djuuss: ls -al /home to check, then use chown -R djuss:djuss /home/djuss (replace your nick with user name)
[06:22] <geoaxis> hello people
[06:22] <geoaxis> i changed the positions of PCI cards on my desktop
[06:23] <geoaxis> now my ubuntu wont boot for some reason
[06:23] <ellioTb> apps just load slower than BALLLLSSS on mine
[06:23] <beefsprocket> tried changing them back geoaxis?
[06:23] <tekian_> Need Help: Subwoofer on Dell Inspiron e1705 refuses to work. Card: HDA Intel Mixer: SigmaTel STAC9200.
[06:23] <geoaxis> beefsprocket:  no use
[06:23] <beefsprocket> tried recovery mode?
[06:24] <geoaxis> done that too
[06:24] <djuuss> beefsprocket, ok that didnt return any errors so sounds good. I'm logged into x as root now, so brb
[06:24] <feross> Larken: looking here to see if anything will help http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html
[06:24] <geoaxis> it gets stuck on  trying to find root
[06:24] <beefsprocket> you're not booting off a pci ide card right?
[06:24] <Daught> hello. I am trying to configure my printer. I go to system> admin>printing. My printer gets recognized and I go through the wizzard. when I am done there is no new printer added. is there something specific I should put in location?
[06:25] <Larken> oh thats a cool sight
[06:25] <Larken> site*
[06:25] <tekian_> Anyone? Subwoofer? Please? =(
[06:26] <Tweak> If anyone has a got a sec and can help me get apt to accept the 32 bit wine repositories on a amd-64 machine I would really appreciate it :D
[06:26] <rockstar_> Can anyone point me to a fglrx install howto that's worth a damn?  This is MUCH harder to install than it is on debian... I thought it was supposed to be backwards
[06:26] <jrib> !fglrx
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <rockstar_> Tweak, you'll probably have to set up a 32-bit chroot
[06:26] <beefsprocket> tekian_: seen this? http://www.notebookforums.com/thread169312.html
[06:27] <jirwin> rockstar_: that one! yup :)
[06:27] <MrBIggZ> Greetings! I have two questions, fairly simple in nature.  The first is, is there a command when using apt-get to search for a package?  For example in Fedora you would use 'yum search <package name>'.  Second question is when you install a package via apt-get and using a GDM (I'm using KDE) shouldn't it automatically put an item in the appropriate menu slot?  I did an apt-get for firefox but it never put anything in the internet slot on
[06:27] <odyssevs> apt-cache search
[06:27] <beefsprocket> rockstar_, Tweak, no, you can use dpkg -i --force-all on the 32bit deb
[06:27] <Halpo> how does linux work in general....do different distributions modify the kernel when they build, or is there a standard kernel build that the distro's adopt?
[06:27] <tekian_> beefsproket: Yes, but I couldnt find anything on the subwoofer =(
[06:27] <jrib> MrBIggZ: apt-cache search
[06:27] <MrBIggZ> noted .. one down one to go!
[06:27] <beefsprocket> tekian_: seems like there might not be a driver for it?
[06:28] <jrib> ubotu: tell MrBIggZ about apt
[06:28] <rockstar_> beefsprocket, Do you really think it's a good idea to mix the packages like that?
[06:28] <geoaxis> beefsprocket:  no i am booting off hda
[06:28] <jrib> MrBIggZ: there is also #kubuntu, they may know more about how the kde menu acts