[00:00] <wxl> hey cool check this out! http://www.lubuntutips.com/2012/07/best-lubuntu-apps.html#.UUeqc9Z33To
[00:00] <wxl> that will probably answer all your questions and the forthcoming ones, too, pedor  :) ↑
[00:00] <pedor> yes, it will
[00:00] <pedor> thanks
[00:01] <wxl> !info synapse
[00:02] <wxl> not sure why it links to a ppa
[00:02] <wxl> it's in the repos
[00:02] <csc`> ugh
[00:03] <csc`> wxl, anyway, all i need is a quick and dirty way to get internet to a router and from that router to another computer
[00:03] <csc`> wireless -> ethernet -> router -> ethernet -> computer
[00:11] <csc`> whatever to you too then
[10:36] <cdoublejj> Sooooooo it's Guh-Nome, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
[10:58] <cdoublejj> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFeC25BM9E0
[15:42] <cerebrate> hi genii-around
[15:42]  * genii-around slides cerebrate a coffee
[15:42] <cerebrate> y thank u
[15:43]  * cerebrate makes some fruit juice tea herb soup, shares with all
[18:23] <Bonzodog> hi guys
[18:25] <Bonzodog> ok, so I am an ex-arch user who bought a brand new Acer 571 laptop which runs UEFI by default, and cannot be reverted to a legacy BIOS
[18:25] <holstein> !uefi
[18:26] <Bonzodog> I am currently using Ubuntu as the 12.10 installer can auto setup a UEFI install, but I am not happy with the idea of only having / partition. I have always used a seperate /home ince 1997
[18:27] <Bonzodog> also, i want an ob based system, as its what I have used for a long while
[18:27] <holstein> Bonzodog: you can make what you like
[18:27] <holstein> Bonzodog: you can use the alternate installer... you can use the advanced part of the live CD installer. you can partition using what you like (anything esle such as gparted live CD) and install to whatever you choose
[18:28] <Bonzodog> my problem is I don know how to custom create a GPT disk
[18:28] <Bonzodog> I can manually setup and partition an MBR disk
[18:29] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUbuntu11.10OnLenovoEFI/GPT/WLAN/Power/BIOS
[18:34] <Bonzodog> ah hah
[18:34] <Bonzodog> thanks guys
[18:35] <Bonzodog> I will also probably go onto warty
[18:35] <Bonzodog> as I am an ex Arch Multilib Testing user
[18:35] <Bonzodog> I liked living on the bleeding edge
[18:41] <holstein> warty?
[18:41] <holstein> !warty
[18:41] <holstein> ^^ that is old and EOL
[18:42] <holstein> !raring
[18:42] <holstein> ^ s what you would go on to
[18:42] <Bonzodog> duh
[18:42] <Bonzodog> I mean the bleeding edge release
[18:42] <Unit193> You'd have to seek support in +1
[18:42] <Bonzodog> I thought it was codenamed warty
[18:43] <Unit193> But could be interesting.
[18:43] <Unit193> Bonzodog: Debian calls it sid, don't know what Ubuntu's devel would be.
[18:43] <Bonzodog> it used to have a seperate codename on the repos
[18:43] <wxl> #1. i don't think there are "codenames" per se :) like it's not insider information
[18:43] <wxl> #2. it's the latest, but it's not necessarily bleeding edge
[18:44] <wxl> #3. ubuntu went alphabetical in the 4th release: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[18:45] <wxl> will zesty zebra be the last ubuntu? or will it be celestial curassow? or will they just start over again?
[18:45] <wxl> next on unsolved mysteries…
[18:50] <Bonzodog> lol
[18:51] <Bonzodog> oh, it used to be that the repos for a devel release would have their own name, but it doesnt work like that anymore
[18:52] <Bonzodog> now you run updatemanager -d
[18:52] <Bonzodog> and it shows you the current devel release
[18:53] <wxl> well if you look in sources.list each source has the codename as an argument
[18:53] <wxl> so same repos, different section
[18:54] <wxl> i should revise that: same server, different folder http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[18:54] <Bonzodog> yeah....
[18:55] <wxl> if you plan on hanging around lubuntu for a while and you plan on running the bleeding edge, you should join qa :)
[18:58] <Bonzodog> where would be the best place to ask about bumblebee
[18:58] <Bonzodog> This lappy is also an Optimus system
[18:59] <Bonzodog> but I have a game that has to have optirun bash put in first
[18:59] <holstein> Bonzodog: all those packages are for any ubuntu versions, so i might try #ubuntu
[20:33] <SilverLion> hi everyone


[12:12] <jbailey> Ah, missed him.
[12:13] <jbailey> I suspect that he's feeding a different root= in grub than he thinks he is.
[02:35] <zul> evening
[02:35] <zul> so...got a question when are you guys gonig to be arriving in montreal? i say we get together for dinner on saturday nightish
[06:08] <iram> Hello all, I'm trying to figure out what the ubuntu specific patches to the kernel are.  I'm need to use kernel 2.6.13 and I'm just not sure what the reprocussions of using a virgin kernel are.  I've looked around a bunch trying to find this information but I can't find it anywhere.  Can anyone give me some pointers on where to find this.
[06:45] <crimsun> iram: install linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[06:46] <crimsun> iram: if you need to use 2.6.13 for a specific driver, feature, or fix, you may well find it easier to backport it
[07:07] <iram> crisun: what I am trying to get is the ite 8212 driver that is in the 2.6.13 kernel.  I am currently using the driver on a fedora installation but they kernel team for fedora has included it since 2.6.12.  I read the release notes from 2.6.13 and it is now included in the stock kernel (after being tested in fedora).  How would I go about 'backporting' this specific chunk of code.  The other issue is that apparently
[07:07] <iram> the ide code has been changed a lot in 2.6.13 so it may be kind of hard to just yank that code
[02:31] <typo> coud someone please explain to me how I can create a package just like "linux-image-2.6.12-9-686"?
[02:33] <mjg59> typo: apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-9-686; cd linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.12; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[02:34] <typo> mjg59: great, thanks
[02:38] <typo> mjg59: it doesn't have a .config, is that normal?
[02:38] <mjg59> typo: That's generated when you do the dpkg-buildpackage
[02:38] <mjg59> It builds several different kernels
[02:38] <typo> mjg59: oh, great, and how can I enable ACPI debug?
[02:39] <mjg59> The configs are in debian/config
[02:40] <typo> can I make it build just the -686 kernel?
[02:43] <mjg59> Easiest way is just to delete all the configs except the 686 one
[02:43] <typo> will it try to build the kernels for the other arches?
[02:50] <mjg59> Nope
[03:14] <typo> how can I add an extra version to the packages so that they're parallel instalable?
[03:14] <typo> with the ones in breezy I mean
[03:19] <BenC> it's non-trivial
[03:21] <typo> ok, no problem then
[03:45] <zul> hmmm?
[03:47] <typo> the compile failed with: "drivers/acpi/i2c-acpi-ec.c:322: error: `ACPI_EC_COMPONENT' undeclared (first use in this function)"
[03:47] <typo> anyone know what this is?
[03:47] <BenC> yeah, means you have conflicting patches
[03:47] <typo> all I changed from the original was adding CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG=y to the config
[03:47] <BenC> ah
[03:47] <typo> BenC: how? I didn't patch anything
[03:48] <BenC> well, could be that the debug code isn't well tested
[03:49] <typo> seems to be the "ACPI_FUNCTION_TRACE" macro
[03:49] <typo> anyone know where this is defined?
[03:51] <zul> grep it
[03:52] <zul> BenC: is there something in the git tree now or am i just crazy?
[03:52] <typo> zul: should I try .h or .c?
[03:53] <typo> found it: include/acpi/acmacros.h
[03:53] <BenC> zul: there is, but after doing a clone, do "git checkout ubuntu-2.6.14"
[03:54] <BenC> I know it's counter to what I wanted to do, but all work will be in a branch :)
[03:55] <typo> yes, the macro is defined to empty when debug is off
[04:00] <typo> so how can I build a kernel with acpi debug?
[04:01] <BenC> just remove that one ACPI_FUNCTION_TRACE line
[04:01] <BenC> or comment it out
[04:02] <typo> BenC: it probably happens in all of those lines
[04:02] <typo> or not?
[04:03] <typo> oh, that file doesn't exist before the ubuntu patches
[04:05] <typo> for a centrino laptop should I use 386 or 686?
[04:05] <typo> for testing I mean
[04:08] <mjg59> 686
[04:09] <typo> ok
[04:09] <typo> and how do I remove a patch from the build?
[04:13] <BenC> you don't remove the patch
[04:15] <BenC> if ACPI_FUNCTION_TRACE is broken, then you're looking at a lot of work, really
[04:15] <typo> BenC: maybe it's just in the i2c patch
[04:15] <typo> removing it is that hard?
[04:16] <BenC> possible
[04:16] <BenC> no, just edit debian/patches/00list-9.23
[04:16] <BenC> first do "fakeroot debian/rules clean"
[04:18] <BenC> git's shared object directories are cool
[04:27] <typo> if I remove that one then the "drivers-acpi-add-devacpi" patch fails
[04:28] <fabbione> hey BenC
[04:28] <typo> I was trying to debug this: "https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8140" but I guess it's not to be
[04:28] <BenC> which one did you remove?
[04:29] <BenC> hey fabbione
[04:29] <fabbione> BenC: pulling your tree from kernel.org is quite of a puzzle :)
[04:29] <fabbione> davem 1) Clone Linus's tree
[04:29] <fabbione> davem 2) Clone locally, from that, a tree named "ubuntu-2.6" or whatever
[04:29] <fabbione> davem 3) In the ubuntu-2.6 tree, pull from Ben's with the "ubuntu-2.6" tag as the last arg
[04:29] <fabbione> otherwise we get plenty of errors
[04:29] <BenC> fabbione: that's not how I did it
[04:30] <fabbione> BenC: that's what we had to do :)
[04:30] <typo> BenC: external-drivers-acpi_i2c-acpi-ec.dpatch
[04:30] <fabbione> what's another solution?
[04:31] <BenC> do the command in the topic and then do "git checkout ubuntu-2.6.14"
[04:32] <BenC> I created the tree just like Linus told me
[04:32] <fabbione> ok
[04:32] <BenC> so if it's wrong, blame Linus :)
[04:32] <fabbione> OHH
[04:33] <fabbione> i think it's because i missed the tag at the end
[04:34] <fabbione> BenC: we need to do a git pkg for Ubuntu
[04:34] <fabbione> the one we have inside cogito is old
[04:34] <typo> BenC: any other idea? to do this or to debug it some other way?
[04:34] <fabbione> anyway i need to run off now...
[04:37] <BenC> fabbione: I guess I'll be nominated to maintain git since I'm forcing people to use it :)
[04:38] <fabbione> BenC: nah. i will prepare the pkgs
[04:38] <fabbione> it's okl
[04:38] <fabbione> ok
[04:40] <jbailey> Isn't git in universe? =)
[04:44] <fabbione> jbailey: cogito is
[05:21] <dilinger> isn't git as well?  istr git being broken out of cogito
[05:25] <dilinger> yuck.  cogito's changelog is a bit scary; binaries being removed, readded, renamed...
[05:26] <dilinger> the debian package is also horribly out of date
[05:28] <dilinger> bah
[05:28] <dilinger> i know what i'm doing today
[06:26] <typo> BenC: I now have this: "ABI has changed!  Refusing to continue; please update the ABINAME accordingly."
[06:26] <typo> how do I update ABINAME?
[06:34] <typo> anyone know?
[06:35] <dilinger> the ABINAME is in the package name
[06:36] <typo> and how do I change it?
[06:37] <dilinger> by changing the control file, i would assume
[06:37] <dilinger> linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[06:37] <dilinger> the ABINAME there is '9'
[06:37] <typo> and that's where I change it?
[06:37] <dilinger> i'm not certain where else it might need to be changed, but debian/control is a good start
[06:38] <typo> I'm guessing debian/abi/ has something to do with it
[06:39] <typo> disabling the abi check would also work
[06:39] <typo> anyone know how to do that?
[06:42] <typo> from debian/rules I'm guessing touching debian/abi/i386.ignore will do that
[07:11] <BenC> typo: debian/rules bumpabi
[07:12] <BenC> and also the ignore will make it continue
[07:12] <BenC> bumabi will change the abi name to -10
[07:54] <fabbione> BenC: that's weird..
[07:54] <fabbione> i did the git pull and git checkout from people
[07:54] <fabbione> but there is no debian/ ?
[07:55] <fabbione> i was on git web that you commited it
[08:07] <BenC> fabbione: git checkout ubuntu-2.6.14
[08:08] <fabbione> ahh
[08:08] <fabbione> so everything needs to be presented with the branch tag
[08:08] <fabbione> thanks :)
[08:09] <BenC> once you checkout with the branchname, you are good
[08:09] <fabbione> yup
[08:10] <BenC> then everything will default to that branch
[08:10] <fabbione> ah perfect
[08:10] <fabbione> so in future i will just git pull to update the tree
[08:10] <BenC> right
[08:10] <fabbione> i will need to figure later how to commit/publish the brach without accessing your repo directly
[08:11] <fabbione> but that's monday task :)
[08:11] <fabbione> BenC: are you using a cronjob to sync with kernel.org?
[08:11] <BenC> commit is local, then you can push it anywhere you want, but back to my repo is best
[08:11] <fabbione> or do you need to do it manually?
[08:11] <BenC> not currently
[08:11] <fabbione> ok
[08:11] <BenC> right now, I am manually syncing to kernel.org so that I can get some sort of checking for commits
[08:11] <fabbione> hmm did you create the repo with the g+s so i can commit?
[08:12] <fabbione> because otherwise that can be an issue
[08:12] <BenC> should be, let me check
[08:12] <BenC> what sort of stuff are you going ot be working on?
[08:13] <fabbione> right now i am only setting up the enviroment
[08:13] <BenC> ok
[08:13] <fabbione> but i will need to commit stuff for cluster and ocfs2
[08:13] <dilinger> bah
[08:13] <fabbione> dilinger: yo
[08:13] <dilinger> cogito upstream has their own debian stuff
[08:13] <fabbione> dilinger: i will make clean gi pkgs next week
[08:13] <fabbione> dilinger: no cogito
[08:13] <fabbione> git even
[08:13] <BenC> keep all your work local until I write up the commit details (log style, etc)
[08:14] <fabbione> BenC: i am not going to do anything without your approval, while we test the bits :)
[08:14] <fabbione> also because at the best, the kernel doesn't even compile
[08:14] <dilinger> fabbione: well,i'm looking at cogito now
[08:14] <BenC> in order to keep everything clean with this commit-all stuff, we need good logging
[08:14] <fabbione> BenC: yup
[08:14] <dilinger> since i want to build bzrweb and update gitweb, might as well
[08:14] <fabbione> dilinger: most kernel hackers don't use cogito for different reasons
[08:14] <BenC> what is cogito?
[08:14] <BenC> as opposed to git
[08:15] <fabbione> BenC: cogito is an simplified UI for git
[08:15] <fabbione> BenC: cogito uses git as backend
[08:15] <fabbione> nothing fancy
[08:15] <BenC> ah
[08:15] <BenC> makes it easier for cvs folks, I assume?
[08:15] <fabbione> the real issue is that cogito Depends: git (= $special_version)
[08:15] <fabbione> when git moves forward much faster
[08:16] <BenC> so far I like git
[08:16] <fabbione> BenC: yeah sort of
[08:16] <BenC> one thing I like is that I have one main linux-2.6 repo locally, and my ubuntu and linux1394 repo's share the majority of hte objects with it, and it saves space
[08:16] <dilinger> fabbione: what reasons are that?
[08:16] <fabbione> dilinger: the missing allignment is the first..
[08:17] <fabbione> dilinger: that creates problems for them to keep in sync
[08:18] <fabbione> anyway
[08:18] <fabbione> gotta go
[08:18] <fabbione> cya sunday
[08:18] <fabbione> or later
[08:30] <dilinger> or maybe i should drop gitweb (can't find bzrweb anymore), and break out the code in tailor for reading distribution RCSs
[08:34] <dilinger> http://nautilus.homeip.net/~lele/
[08:34] <dilinger> that's a little disturbing
[08:56] <typo> BenC: it failed because it was expecting to find "debian/build/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_*i386.deb" and there was a 686 image there instead
[08:56] <typo> I guess deleting the 386 config wasn't a good idea after all
[09:36] <BenC> if it got that far, then it might be done
[09:37] <BenC> is there a .deb image in the directory below your build?
[10:55] <typo> BenC: yes, there's a deb here, I'm going to try this one
[11:01] <typo> BenC: It worked, I got a 2.6.12-9-686 kernel with ACPI debug on
[11:02] <typo> BenC: it hangs after "Executing all Device _STA and _INI methods:........."
[11:05] <typo> BenC: if you need the other stuff I can write it all down
[11:06] <typo> BenC: anything else please ask
[11:06] <typo> BenC: the bug is here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8140


[12:43] <mdeslaur> infinity: I see you've done some SRUs...could you please release krb5 from trusty-proposed? One of the bugs doesn't have a verification-done, which is blocking it, but it's trivial
[12:44] <mdeslaur> infinity: and I need to release a security update on top of it this week
[13:23] <mdeslaur> anyone else from the SRU team? ^
[13:31] <ScottK> mdeslaur: Looking
[13:34] <ScottK> mdeslaur: Seems reasonable.
[13:36] <ScottK> mdeslaur: Done.
[13:36] <mdeslaur> ScottK: thanks!
[13:36] <ScottK> yw.
[17:15] <teward> those two nginx uploads are for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1216817
[17:15] <teward> (in case anyone cares)
[17:19] <teward> oops i accidentally uploaded to -updates instead of proposed, in the changes... my bad... if you need me to recreate let me know.
[17:21] <teward> oops, another issue, wrong pocket - please reject
[17:38] <ScottK> teward: Rejected.
[17:39] <teward> ScottK: thank you
[17:39] <ScottK> yw
[17:40] <teward> ScottK: also reject the precise one as well - 1.1.19-1ubuntu0.8
[17:40] <teward> (there's two in there)
[17:42] <ScottK> Sure
[17:43] <ScottK> Done
[17:43] <teward> this being the first actual upload for an SRU fix, i made a mistake on the upload.  thanks to rbasak for a review and guidance on fixing :)
[17:43] <teward> (merges in the devel release are easy comparatively >.>)
[17:46] <teward> ScottK: those two on the other hand should be in the right pocket now
[17:46] <teward> (same SRU bug)
[17:46]  * ScottK doesn't have time to process accept right now.
[17:46] <teward> 'tis fine :)
[17:46] <teward> no rush at all
[18:05] <tkamppeter> Can someone reject the Trusty SRU upload of CUPS for bug 1386241 to free the SRU path for a Trusty SRU upload of CUPS for bug 1352809? thanks. The latter bug is more urgent.
[18:36] <jderose> is there a new expected release date for 14.04.2 now?
[18:37] <wxl> jderose: not this thursday, but next thursday
[18:37] <jderose> wxl: awesome, thanks! just helps to know when to expect it :)
[18:38] <wxl> jderose: there's some problems with the transition from tasks to metapackages that infinity is working on fixing, among other things
[18:38] <wxl> jderose: if you'd like to test but have nothing to do, there's a fair amount of sru's requiring verification :)
[18:39] <jderose> yes: "like testing"; no: "have nothing to do" :P
[18:39] <wxl> hahahah
[18:39] <wxl> jderose: well keep an eye out on the ubuntu-release mailing list for when we're officially back to testing
[18:39] <jderose> but i might be able to take a stab at a few, especially if they can be seen as a priority for system76 (that's where i work)
[18:40] <wxl> ah cool
[18:40] <jderose> wxl: out of curiosity, why aren't new daily trusty (14.04.2) daily iso's getting built? last build was tuesday last week
[18:41] <wxl> jderose: for most flavors, the issue with the metapackage transition has resulted in missing/additional packages, which is to say the tests ultimately fail. until that's resolved, it's sort of pointless.
[18:42] <teward> wxl: that'd be the 19th right?  (for 14.04.2)
[18:42] <jderose> wxl: happen to have  buglink handy for the metapackage issues? i'm not familiar with what's going on there, sounds like something i should learn about
[18:42] <wxl> yes, sir, teward
[18:42] <wxl> jderose: there are several, and honestly, i think only infinity truly understands the extent of the problem and how to resolve them. look at the red bugs on the tracker and those are inevitably them ;)
[18:44] <jderose> wxl: er, red bugs here? or somewhere else? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-14.04.2
[18:46] <wxl> jderose: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/332/builds
[18:46] <jderose> ah, that tracker :D
[18:54] <jderose> wxl: sorry, one more question: where can i find a list of the SRUs that need verification?
[18:54] <wxl> jderose: it's linked off of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:54] <wxl> jderose: to save you the trouble, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification
[18:55] <wxl> jderose: or better yet, right to it at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[18:55] <jderose> ah, that's the money. i've wanted a list like that, so i can keep track of what might be coming down from proposed. thanks!
[18:56] <wxl> jderose: no problem :)
[19:18] <jderose> hehe, apparently support was definitely added - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:<IP_ADDRESS>+14.04.20150122-0ubuntu1
[19:19] <wxl> hahahah


[07:17] <Guest54929> hi
[07:17] <Guest54929> i have problem with vpn in ubuntu
[07:18] <Guest54929> my vpn connect and my ip change but i cant connect to website that are block in our country like youtube or facebook?
[12:20] -queuebot:#edubuntu- Unapproved: babl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.1.44-1 => 0.1.46-1] (edubuntu, ubuntugnome, ubuntustudio) (sync)


 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/b5c0b63f/file_3084.jpg
 trying to update
 i got this
 You are asking on the other channel about the composer for low-resource computers, I don't use it, it slows down my computer a lot.
 same here (re @N0um3n0: You are asking on the other channel about the composer for low-resource computers, I don't use it, it slows down my computer a lot.)
 try and see, you can try: picom, compton, xcompmgr (re @Hjil_l: same here)
 I'm not sure if xcompmgr is still in the repos
[19:11] <nik0n> is there a pop! os chan?