[02:03] <Kilos> o/
[02:03] <tsimonq2> o/ Kilos
[02:03] <Kilos> hi tsimonq2
[06:38] <dholbach> good morning
[06:39] <nigelb> morning dholbach
[06:39] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[06:39] <nigelb> I suspect, I missed a chance to say hi to you last week.
[06:39] <nigelb> Do you still live in Berlin?
[06:45] <dholbach> Oh... you were there as well!
[06:46] <dholbach> Yes, I do.
[06:46] <dholbach> an old friend told me he was in Berlin last week too :)
[06:50] <nigelb> Yeah, it was linuxcon.
[06:50] <nigelb> I was speaking.
[06:51] <nigelb> I should have pinged you, but the conference had me on my feet all week :)
[06:51] <nigelb> Oh well, next time!
[12:30] <Mister_Q> o/
[13:05] <dholbach> hello? anyone for the ubucon meeting?
[13:06] <svij> dholbach: isn't that in 30min?
[13:07] <Mister_Q> svij I thought so too
[13:07] <dholbach> yeah, just noticed
[13:07] <dholbach> ignore me :)
[13:09] <svij> that's what happens when you the ubuntu phone calendar app *scnr*
[13:09] <svij> +use
[13:14] <dholbach> mhall119, what about https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/summit/1611/+merge/306354?
[13:17] <czajkowski> didnt realise it was a release day :)
[13:17] <czajkowski> http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/canonical-releases-ubuntu-16-10/
[13:19] <svij> and the release mail isnt even send out yet
[14:03] <mhall119> dholbach: was there an answer to your cloud question?
[14:03] <dholbach> mhall119, I don't know who talked to Jorge and friends
[14:05] <mhall119> marcoceppi: is the cloud & server team going to participate in UOS this cycle?
[14:05] <mhall119> Nov 15 & 16
[14:26] <svij> dpm: dholbach: ubucon summit group photo: https://cloud.nhaines.com/index.php/s/fKvAdoLm5KZcMkO
[14:27] <dpm> yeah, that's the one I had seen
[14:27] <dpm> nice!
[14:28] <dholbach> the file was renamed from ubucon_summit_at_scale14x_group_take-499_from_raw.jpg
[14:28] <marcoceppi> mhall119: I'm not sure
[14:29] <svij> dholbach: hm?
[14:29] <dholbach> svij, we did quite a few takes of that picture :)
[14:29] <svij> ah
[14:29] <svij> oh right, I remember that photgrapher running a few times… :)
[15:53] <czajkowski> dholbach: happy music man :D
[15:53] <czajkowski> where ya been!
[15:54] <dholbach> czajkowski, I just uploaded some of my old mixes
[15:54] <dholbach> I haven't done any new for ages :)
[15:54] <dholbach> but yeah... thanks :)
[15:54]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[15:55] <czajkowski> my inbox went into update mode :D
[15:55] <czajkowski> was good music to work to today
[15:57]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[16:05] <dholbach> all right my friends - see you all tomorrow again!
[16:15] <czajkowski> jose: did you have luck filing the bug ?
[21:22] <ahoneybun> mhall119: could I get sent the email about bank info for SeaGL ?
[21:22] <ahoneybun> ;)
[21:27] <ahoneybun> that was a bit harsh tone: "can you please ping the person handling the fund to email me?"
[21:29] <wxl> ahoneybun: i'd imagine they will get in touch. i mean, if they don't, that's kind of problematic. ;) they always have with me. just not yet, this time around.
[21:32] <ahoneybun> this is true
[21:32] <ahoneybun> I might be missing the human factor of the email
[21:32] <ahoneybun> wxl: I'd just like to the flight booked at the best time
[21:33] <wxl> ahoneybun: i agree, but i guess it's their dime *shrug*
[21:34] <ahoneybun> well time factors into the cost
[21:34] <ahoneybun> the jump around so much for flightsd
[21:34] <ahoneybun> *flights
[21:39] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I'll ping them, yes
[21:40] <wxl> mhall119: me, too, then please.
[21:40] <mhall119> wxl: will do, in the mean time both of you please check your junk folder in case it ended up there
[21:41] <wxl> mhall119: would it have come from stef?
[21:43] <wxl> mhall119: it is the one with subject "Re: World Licensed anti-ED drugs?"
[21:57] <mhall119> wxl: :-P
[21:57] <wxl> mhall119: oh that's not it? then i guess i don't have it Xþ
[22:10] <ahoneybun> wow Microsoft email went into Spam
[22:12] <ahoneybun> mhall119: seems there is an IoT conf happening in Fort Lauderdale in Feb 2017
[22:12] <ahoneybun> http://www.iotevolutionexpo.com/east/
[22:14] <ahoneybun> mhall119: let's jose visit his favorite airport lol
[23:56] <wxl> uhhh
[23:57] <wxl> so uds.ubuntu.com should redirect to summit.ubuntu.com
[23:57] <wxl> uds.u.c. refers to 15.10 O_O
[23:57] <wxl> wiki.u.c/UOS redirects to UDS which links to uds.u.c
[23:57] <wxl> so that's not good


[00:01] <factotum> hey guys, any clue on how to disable a mousepad while typing in xub?
[00:02] <factotum> duh nevermind
[00:12] <Hezy> tilleyrw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8595940
[00:28] <philippe> Hi all
[00:28] <philippe> I need some help
[00:29] <philippe> I attach my digital camera to my laptop running xubuntu and it doesnt show up
[00:29] <philippe> The disk I mean
[00:29] <philippe> ANy ideas?
[00:29] <philippe> fdisk -l doesn't show it as visible although dmesg shoes the usb device as plugged in at an address
[00:30] <philippe> shows*
[00:36] <terry> whats the filesystem on the disk?
[00:37] <terry> if its ntsc you might need to install some drivers
[00:39] <drc> philippe: I just checked my Nikon D70 and under USB there were two choices, Mass Storage and PPP...cone worked and the other didn't (but the reverse was true under windows, as I recall).  You might check check your camera's menu.
[00:40] <philippe> Ok Terry I check that now
[00:40] <philippe> drc I check that too
[00:40] <philippe> One sec
[00:49] <philippe> Its fat32 terry
[00:49] <philippe> Should that work on xubuntu?
[00:50] <drc> philippe: yes
[00:52] <philippe> drc how do I check under usb >
[00:52] <philippe> >
[00:52] <philippe> ?
[00:53] <drc> philippe: Check your <camera's> menu system, there's probably a USB setting on it
[00:53] <philippe> ok
[00:56] <philippe> couldnt find it
[00:56] <drc> Then I have no idea what to do next...sorry.
[00:57] <philippe> hang on a sec
[00:57] <philippe> I just installed gphoto2 and it found it
[01:00] <drc> good
[01:01] <philippe> It;s transferring now. I hope it works
[01:08] <Soupermanito> philippe, your laptop probably has card reading slots, you can avoid most of this problems plugging in your camera sd card
[01:10] <philippe> I am on an ibm thinkpad
[01:10] <philippe> Really old!
[01:10] <philippe> I thought it might be usb 1.0 but is transferring something now (albeit slowly)
[01:11] <Soupermanito> :D
[01:12] <Soupermanito> :P you could buy a usb card reader, they are pretty cheap :P
[01:13] <philippe> GOod idea!
[01:15] <philippe> Is anyone on natty?
[01:16] <josh_> Hi, im currently trying to get my wireless card to work on my new xubuntu install and I'm running into some challenges. Would someone be able to help?
[01:17] <KM0201> josh_: which card is it?
[01:18] <josh_> It's one that uses the broadcom wireless proprietary drivers. I did an install via usb stick, and when I was in live xubuntu it saw the proprietary driver. But after the install, it can no longer see them.
[01:18] <KM0201> josh_: ok.. which broadcom is it (there's a lot of broadcom devices) or do you not know?
[01:19] <Unit193> lsusb or lspci will tell you
[01:19]  * KM0201 waits for channel flood.
[01:20] <KM0201> Unit193: you know, i don't think i've ever saw a broadcom USB device (not to say they aren't out ther eof course)... virtually every USB device i've dealt with, has been ralink
[01:20] <KM0201> josh_: did you get lost?
[01:20] <josh_> Im actuall yon my windows partition now, I dont have access to a wired connection so I have to go on here to use the internet. I know my device manager says Im using the  boadcom 802.11 driver
[01:21] <KM0201> josh_: well, you need to boot linux, and tell us which broadcom device you have... open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and hit enter.. find your wireless device.
[01:21] <josh_> Oh, the wireless card is not USB. The install disk is USB.
[01:21] <KM0201> josh_: that was irrelevant, i was taking to Unit193
[01:21] <KM0201> josh_: as i said, boot linux, open a terminal and type lspci and hit enter
[01:21] <KM0201> you'll get a bunch of output.
[01:21] <KM0201> one of them, will look something like this... 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)
[01:22] <KM0201> write downt hat whole line, then come back.
[01:22] <KM0201> you don't have another device you can come here on?
[01:22] <KM0201> while the laptop boots linux?
[01:22] <josh_> Not right now, my main laptop is down right now. On the netbook. I'll
[01:23] <josh_> Ill check and get back.
[01:23] <KM0201> josh_: you got an ipod touch or something that can get online?
[01:23] <KM0201> if so, if so, i'll givce you my yahoo name and you can IM me.
[01:25] <josh_> My evo 4G, but I dont have a yahoo installed on it. Ill just check and come pack. The main issue is that the proprietary drivers are on the USB. The package installer wants it in the /media/cdrom location to find the packages.
[01:25] <KM0201> josh_: so you have to manually install them
[01:25] <josh_> I mounted the xubunut iso to /media/cdrom, but it still fails to recognize it in the package installer.
[01:25] <KM0201> josh_: here..
[01:25] <KM0201> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:26] <KM0201> that tells you how to install the drivers, w/o an internet connection
[01:26] <KM0201> but you have to figure out which device you have first,.
[01:26] <josh_> Awesome, this is exactly what I was looking for.
[01:26] <josh_> Thank you KM0201.
[01:26] <KM0201> no prob, any probs, come back and ask.;
[01:26] <KM0201> josh_: also..
[01:26] <KM0201> if you have the install USB>
[01:27] <josh_> yes
[01:27] <KM0201> the packages you need are on the USB, in the directories listed in that walkthrough.
[01:27] <KM0201> so you can just go through, and double click them to install them.
[01:28] <josh_> Awesome, I'll give it a wirl and come back and give the results. Thanks for the help.
[02:21] <Soupermanito> D: i think i floped things up
[02:22] <Soupermanito> i wont know until i try to reboot
[02:22] <Soupermanito> i dont feel like rebooting now
[02:23] <Soupermanito> i should download and burn xubunut 11.04 before rebooting, just in case
[05:50] <gennro> hi
[05:53] <JoachimSchraderN> Hi! I did a clean install of xubuntu 11.04 desktop the other day. Since then I cant upgrade or install anything due to this error: reading files list for package 'elementary-icon-theme': Input/output error. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2). Anyone know what to do about this?
[05:55] <puneet> hi
[05:56] <puneet> i have an issue
[05:56] <puneet> anyone there
[05:56] <JoachimSchraderN> Yep!
[05:56] <puneet> hey my destop menu bar and status bar are missing
[05:57] <puneet> an also my audio drivers are not working
[05:58] <puneet> i am using xubuntu 11
[05:59] <JoachimSchraderN> Sorry - I'm new to xubuntu (thats why I'm here)....
[05:59] <puneet> :-)
[05:59] <puneet> same here
[06:00] <puneet> so whts ur issue
[06:00] <JoachimSchraderN> I did a clean install of xubuntu 11.04 desktop the other day. Since then I cant upgrade or install anything due to this error: reading files list for package 'elementary-icon-theme': Input/output error. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2).
[06:01] <puneet> hmm
[06:02] <bazhang> !panels
[06:03] <raevol> is xubuntu using a different notify daemon from regular ubuntu? is it safe to install the vanilla ubuntu one? (i prefer the behavior from maverick)
[06:04] <puneet> thanks man... it worked
[06:04] <Soupermanito> sheet i knew it wont be a good idea that apt-get autoremove move, now i can't change the volume because gnome-mixer is missing, damn you xfce lacking of audio mixer!!
[06:04] <puneet> and wht abt the audio
[06:05] <puneet> my audio drivers are not working
[06:06] <Soupermanito> oh well there is one after all, i'm afraid of rebooting now
[06:07] <JoachimSchraderN> Input/output-error: Downloading alternate-torrent now, and I'll give it a try.....
[06:08] <Soupermanito> puneet, what kind of audio card you have?
[06:09] <puneet> i have a his motherboard
[06:09] <puneet> and earlier in windows i was using c media
[06:09] <Soupermanito> do lspci on a terminal
[06:09] <Soupermanito> >lspci | grep Audio
[06:11] <Soupermanito> also >cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[06:13] <puneet> cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory
[06:14] <puneet> puneet@puneet-desktop:~/Desktop$ lspci | grep audio
[06:14] <puneet> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[06:17] <Soupermanito> puneet, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20748
[06:17] <puneet> so what to do
[06:18] <Soupermanito> the post by mohit should be what you need to do
[06:20] <puneet> ok will chk now
[06:20] <Soupermanito> kk
[06:21] <puneet> where do i enter
[06:22] <puneet> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:22] <raevol> omg i can't believe i waited 2 years for menu editing to be added to XFCE and now i can't find a menu editor that will actually let me edit the menu. alacarte is useless
[06:23] <puneet> sudo cp /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.bak
[06:23] <puneet> This is just to keep backup, in case sumthng goes wrong.
[06:23] <puneet> sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:23] <puneet> This will open up a file in the text editor.
[06:23] <puneet> Append to the end of this file the following line:
[06:23] <puneet> options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack
[06:23] <puneet> Save and exit. Restart and retry.
[06:23] <puneet> where do i enter this
[06:27] <puneet> do i have to type hat i the terinal
[06:27] <puneet> terminal
[06:29] <Soupermanito> si
[06:29] <Soupermanito> oh sorry, yes
[06:30] <Soupermanito> oh you might have to change where it says >gedit to >mousepad
[06:35] <Soupermanito> i think that if i could edit it to have HUGE BUTTONS on mini mode it would be the most awesome media player for a netbook whit touchscreen
[06:37] <Soupermanito> :D wrong window
[06:47] <puneet> hi
[06:47] <puneet> still no go for the audio
[06:47] <puneet> i connected my logitech usb headst
[06:48] <puneet> in the audio panel i can select it bu no audio
[06:53] <puneet> any one
[06:53] <puneet> help
[06:56] <puneet> anyone
[07:06] <Soupermanito> :/
[07:06] <Soupermanito> sorry puneet
[07:06] <puneet> its fine dear
[07:07] <Soupermanito> you might try asking at #ubuntu there is a lot more activity, some one should know, its not a xubuntu directly related problem so you should be fine there
[07:09] <puneet> ok will do that
[07:50] <alejandro> hi
[07:51] <alejandro> is there someone?
[07:51] <Unit193> !ask | alejandro
[07:51] <testttt> hi
[07:51] <alejandro> hi
[07:51] <alejandro> ok
[07:52] <Unit193> (Not many people answer very fast at this time)
[07:52] <alejandro> i have the last xubuntu version, and i have a problem
[07:52] <Unityhate> !ask
[07:54] <alejandro> everytime i log in, the wifi conection ask for the "wallet password" to get the wifi conection, is posible to avoid that, and just direct connect?
[07:54] <Unityhate> why do you use xfce ?
[07:54] <Unityhate> why not gnome  ?
[07:54] <alejandro> 'cause i like it
[07:55] <Unit193> Unityhate: This is Xubuntu it comes with XFCE
[07:56] <Unityhate> ok
[08:01] <Unit193> alejandro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2089860&postcount=2 But just don't put a pass in
[08:03] <alejandro> thank you! i love u!
[09:32] <SiDi> Meh. the update ****ed up my system >.<
[09:33] <bazhang> SiDi, no cursing here, including ***
[09:45] <SiDi> knome: whats the murrine engine to use for greybird? i got  black terminal scrollbars....
[09:47] <Sysi> SiDi: feature, you can change it from ~last line in greybird's gtkrc
[09:47] <SiDi> Sysi: thqnks
[09:48] <SiDi> Sysi: any idea why the desktop menu wouldnt be available on right click? I kinda crashed my PC during the update and I think I lack a few things
[09:49] <SiDi> (such as my whole xfce settings :p and the vim package that is broken :p)
[09:50] <Sysi> broken xfdesktop does that
[09:51] <SiDi> So where can one find nonbroken xfdesktop? :P
[09:51] <SiDi> I haven't really been following xfce/xubuntu development for a long time :s
[09:52] <Sysi> well, it should just work, i don\t know much about fixing stuff broken in updating
[09:53] <Unit193> SiDi: sudo apt-get install -f what you're looking for?
[09:56] <Sysi> i'd reinstall some packages and run dpkg --configure -a
[09:58] <SiDi> Sysi: ive done it already
[10:01] <infinitum-Omega> hi, hope someone can help me, my pc freezes randomly at most once a startup sometimes never here's the kernel log
[10:01] <infinitum-Omega> http://pastebin.com/Ljzv0nWX
[10:28] <cyningstan> What's the best place for advice on a PHP configuration issue in Xubuntu 10.10?
[11:13] <knome> Sysi, can't remember, ask ochosi
[11:16] <Sysi> i did remember, and he's gone
[11:20] <ochosi> Sysi: guess i have to object :)
[11:20] <ochosi> so what did you want to know?
[11:24] <Sysi> SiDi asked about black scrollbar on terminal
[11:37] <ochosi> Sysi: ah right, well that's dealt with anyway
[11:39] <knome> oh right it was sidi ;)
[13:42] <glennop_> i upgraded a laptop to natty and the wireless networking is not functional.  any ideas?
[13:49] <glennop_> ping
[14:07] <glennop_> hi
[14:22] <glennop_> question about wireless
[14:26] <FiremanEd> The Weather update plugin in Xubuntu has stopped working since last week.  Anyone know why?
[14:31] <glennop_> i upgraded my laptop to natty and now the system does not recognize the wireless adapter.
[14:35] <Sysi> what wireless card is it?
[14:36] <Sysi> lspci in terminal lists all hardware, you can find it there
[14:36] <Sysi> or if it's usb, lsusb
[14:37] <Sysi> how it doesn't recognize it, you can't enable wireless on networkmanager?
[14:38] <glennop_> broadcom bcm4311
[14:38] <Sysi> menu → system → drivers, get some driver and reboot
[14:38] <glennop_> the light for the wireless is amber, that indicates that the device is off or not recognized
[14:39] <glennop_> did you mean system | Additional drivers?
[14:40] <Sysi> that
[14:40] <glennop_> that lists Broadcom STA wireless driver
[15:10] <dusf> can anyone tell me how to disable all 'desktop affects like compiz fusion' and enable proprietary drivers? i can do both of these things in ubuntu-classic but i am unfamiliar with xfce
[15:11] <Sysi> there aren't any effects, you can get propietary drivers with menu → system → Additional drivers
[15:14] <dusf> Sysi: ty, seems just like ubuntu now. this (nvidia) driver is activated but not currently in use, if i open it an it's activated, how do i put it into use?
[15:16] <Sysi> dusf: known issue that it's marked unused even if it's in use, see lspci -k in terminal
[15:17] <dusf> Sysi: if relevant i'm doing this because winehq recommended i disable all desktop affects and use prop drivers to bring my fps from 5fps on xubuntu back to 35fps on ubuntu
[15:17] <dusf> Sysi: will try that in a second, just trying to activate a different version and then reactivate current (recommneded) version
[15:20] <dusf> Sysi: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev
[15:21] <dusf> Sysi: Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[15:21] <dusf> Sysi: Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nvidia-173, nouveau, nvidiafb
[15:25] <dusf> brb
[16:02] <dusf> Sysi: ty
[16:41] <christo_m> hey, any reason why when i plug my usb stick in it keeps popping up windows of it over and over
[16:41] <christo_m> something to do with mount -o loop?
[16:42] <drc> It's most likely because the config says to, let me look and find where this is
[16:42] <Sysi> i've heard about similar problem, happened with U3
[16:42] <drc> Menu>Settings>Settings Manager> File Manager>Removable Drives>Storage
[16:43] <christo_m> thats what i have
[16:43] <christo_m> switchblade
[16:43] <christo_m> usb
[16:43] <drc> The 3d line (Browse)...unclick and try that
[16:43] <christo_m> haha still getting the popus "CD mounted"
[16:44] <christo_m> but that fixed up 50 windows of Thunar coming up
[16:45] <christo_m> wow
[16:45] <christo_m> im just going to disable popups
[16:45] <christo_m> theyre so annoying
[16:45] <drc> Look at Notifications i Settings Manager...I'm not sure you can stop them, but Iput the disapear at 2 seconds and they go away fast
[16:47] <jacobmar1ey1> Hi there, I need some help if there's anyone around on this beautiful Saturday morning
[16:47] <drc> bah...humbug
[16:47] <jacobmar1ey1> I try to only say that during December
[16:48] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: What's the problem?
[16:50] <jacobmar1ey1> Well, I installed a fresh copy of 11.04 on my EEEPc a few weeks ago. Using xfce4-power-manager I set it to dim the display on battery to 10% when idle (one minute timeout). However, it won't take the setting. Everytime I reopen the manager it's set to 20%. I know this because right now I'm using the computer at 10% and, if I'm idle for a minute (reading or watching a vid) the screen BRIGHTENS to 20%! Not really saving me energy
[16:51] <jacobmar1ey1> I can't find any help on google/duckduckgo/the forums despite my searching
[16:51] <jacobmar1ey1> (I do not have gnome-power-manager installed)
[16:53] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: Interesting...Mine holds at 10%...I set that a week or so ago and never checked it, but it did take the setting.
[16:54] <drc> Try changing it in Settings>Settings Editor and see what happens
[16:58] <jacobmar1ey1> /xfce4-power-manager/brightness-level-on-battery is set to 10
[16:58] <jacobmar1ey1> and /xfce4-power-manager/brightness-on-battery is set to 60
[16:59] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: Ah...I misread your original statement.  My appologies.
[16:59] <jacobmar1ey1> and it the last minute of idleness made my brightness jumped again
[17:00] <jacobmar1ey1> It's quite confusing...
[17:02] <jacobmar1ey1> Is there a way to wipe the settings and try again?
[17:06] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: It looks like the config file for that is ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml   I'm not sure if you delete it it will autogenerate, so I
[17:06] <drc> 'd rename it then try.
[17:12] <jacobmar1ey1> Thanks for finding that, I didn't think to look lower that the perchannel directory
[17:14] <jacobmar1ey1> I wonder if 20% is just as low as it will go?
[17:16] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: Not sure
[17:16] <jacobmar1ey1> Actually, if it works fine for you then clearly that's not the case.
[17:16] <jacobmar1ey1> Arg.
[17:17] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: No...I misread you original statement and thought you were talking about "Consider the computer at low powerat:"...
[17:18] <jacobmar1ey1> aaah
[17:18] <drc> My brightness returns to 20% also
[17:18] <jacobmar1ey1> that one is fine
[17:18] <jacobmar1ey1> Oh no, I hope I haven't added an annoyance to your computer.
[17:18] <drc> Try changing it in the config file..saving...and then open the gui and see what it says
[17:19] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: 1) Nope, 2) I have broken my computer so many time and in so many ways, I have become proficient at re-installs :)
[17:20] <jacobmar1ey1> ha, it's why I keep my /home on a separate partition. That said, changing the xml file seems to stick, though the manager still displays 20%
[17:21] <jacobmar1ey1> I'm going to try to change it to 50% with the gui and see if I can change it at all, or if it's stuck at 20%
[17:22] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: great (I think)...if you can comfirm that the guis says one thing and the config files says another (and the system follows the config file), I'd consider filing a bug.
[17:23] <jacobmar1ey1> Aah, setting the gui to 50% is carried over to the xml, and it works as expected when idle for a minute
[17:24] <jacobmar1ey1> though upon reopening the gui it's set to 20% again?
[17:24] <drc> and the xml says what now?
[17:25] <jacobmar1ey1> brightness-level-on-battery type=int value=50
[17:26] <jacobmar1ey1> and it jumps to 50% when left idle
[17:26] <drc> Sounds like a bug...I'd document all this,  with files and images on whatever service you prefer, and file the bug on launchpad.  Even if it's a xfce bug, it'll get to the right people.
[17:27] <jacobmar1ey1> I guess I'll have to. For reference, I'm on x86_64, are you on i386?
[17:27] <drc> 64
[17:28] <drc> jacobmar1ey1: It might even already be filed...check first :)
[17:28] <jacobmar1ey1> thanks very much for the time. I hope you enjoy your day. I'm off to do some laundry now, as that's something that I know will work :)
[17:29] <drc> later
[18:19] <nekoCAT> I just installed alacarte to edit the menus and the entries I hid ended up in the "other" category.  Anyone else have this problem?
[18:20] <Sysi> "feature" afaik
[18:23] <Sysi> you can hide that category too
[18:24] <drc> nekoCAT: I did...and according to alacarte other is not shown?
[18:26] <Sysi> am i supposed to have two icons in panel for sound control?
[18:26] <drc> Sysi: Yes
[18:27] <nekoCAT> The other category is already hidden.
[18:27] <Sysi> and notification area one wants to open wrong settings, derp
[18:27] <drc> Check Sessions and Startup...I uncheck Volume Control and leave XFCE Volume Daemon.
[18:28] <drc> This gets rid of the one in NA and leaves the one in Indicator-Plugin
[18:28] <Sysi> ah, cool
[18:29] <drc> nekoCAT: Exactly what I found...I no longer use alacarte.
[18:30] <nekoCAT> drc: What do you use then?
[18:40] <drc> nekoCAT: Nothing.  The xubuntu menu is so close to what I want that I just dont modify it.  But yoiu can do it the hard (xfce :) way...http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[18:43] <nekoCAT> drc: Thanks.
[18:55] <Morf1n> !rus
[18:55] <Sysi> !ru | you ment?
[19:16] <xaemonic> hey guys i use xubuntu 11.04 with ati graphics i can get clone duel monitors but no option to extend desktop
[19:16] <xaemonic> someone help plz
[19:17] <Sysi> install arandr and set with it
[19:17] <xaemonic> whats arandr?
[19:18] <Sysi> application
[19:18] <xaemonic> ok i sudo apt-get install arander
[19:19] <xaemonic> thx :) ill check it out
[19:20] <xaemonic> oh nice it worked thanks alot
[19:20] <xaemonic> the info i found online sucked...
[19:20] <xaemonic> not many people use xubuntu by the looks of the help online lolz
[19:20] <xaemonic> much ablidged one final question
[19:20] <xaemonic> is their anyway to install xubuntu fresh on my system and coppy over everything without useing a usb or dvd?
[19:21] <xaemonic> i allrey have the iso downloaded
[19:28] <xaemonic> ill take that as a not possable?
[20:33] <kbmaniac> any way to get rid of the pidgen envelope in the indicator applet
[20:34] <Sysi> remove pidgin and/or indicator-messages
[20:35] <kbmaniac> OK will give it a go, thanks
[20:43] <kbmaniac> OK tried removing pidgen, the envelope is still there, and removing indicator-messages will kill all messages ... any other ideas, its not a big issue but kind of irritating
[20:46] <kbmaniac> well going to try removing indicator-messages ...
[20:48] <kbmaniac> yay ... it worked !!!!
[20:48] <kbmaniac> thanks again
[21:10] <kbmaniac> any fix yet for the 30 sec delay on opening thunar for the 1st time ?
[21:51] <tomekh> kbmaniac: afaik no, it is not fixed yet
[21:52] <kbmaniac> oh OK, I guess it will get fixed sometime, apart from that glitch looks like xubuntu is my new home, thanks for your help
[21:54] <xaemonic> hey guys i have xubuntu 11.04 with ati graphics, i can sucessfully get extended desktop useing "arandr" but inorder to do so i need lower resolution way to low to fit them left to right.. anyway i can increase maximum desktop size?
[21:56] <xaemonic> someone help plz
[21:56] <knome> !patience | xaemonic
[22:02] <xaemonic> anyone know how to increase xubuntu's maximum desktop size for extend desktop on multi monitors so i dont have to use such a low resolution on them?
[22:04] <knome> xaemonic, as you were told, please do not repeat your question quickly
[22:04] <xaemonic> sorry just operateing under 1000 by 600 is like havieng a stick in my brain lol
[22:07] <tomekh> i'm currently on 1024x768 and not bad.
[22:08] <tomekh> by the way, why don't you use xrandr?
[22:08] <xaemonic> theirs 2 programs for splitting windows?
[22:08] <xaemonic> i use arander
[22:08] <xaemonic> cuz someone told me to
[22:09] <xaemonic> xrander give more desktop space to work with?
[22:09] <xaemonic> also i was wondering is their a way i can make what i do on one desktop not affect the other? for instance i watch full screen youtube on one an when i click on other it drops fullscreen on other :(
[22:09] <Sysi> arandr's just gui for xrandr
[22:10] <xaemonic> ok so i should install xrandr and use that instead? but keep my old arandr ?? yes?
[22:11] <Sysi> it doesn't make difference
[22:11] <xaemonic> if it dosent make a difference why use it lolz
[22:18] <xaemonic> does anyone know how i can make full screen video on one monitor not minimise when i click stuff on other monitor (exented desktop) ??
[22:22] <Sysi> can be impossible flash issue
[22:23] <xaemonic> so i cannot fullscreen youtube on one monitor and do stuff on other without it dropping out of fullscreen then?
[22:24] <Sysi> i don't know for sure
[22:28] <evon> how do i get the vnc server to start automatically at start-up
[22:28] <xaemonic> go to your settings manager
[22:28] <xaemonic> their should be a startup thing somewhere in their
[22:28] <xaemonic> just add the program to that ;)
[22:28] <evon> i tried putting ./vino-server in there but it does not work
[22:29] <evon> i have to navigate to /usr/lib/vino before I can run the server
[22:29] <xaemonic> hmm well thats the extent of my knolidge im fairly new lol what your doing sounds more complacated than im prepaired to handle
[22:29] <evon> lol
[22:30] <evon> cool
[22:30] <xaemonic> sysi can u help evon? lolz
[22:31] <xaemonic> anyone know how to edit fullscreen options? i want to have youtube/vlc media fullscreen on my tv while i use my other monitor to surf the net without dropping out of fullscreen on the other monitor
[22:31] <evon> what video card you using?
[22:32] <Sysi> evon: use full path if needed
[22:32] <xaemonic> ati
[22:33] <evon> That's unfortunate
[22:33] <evon> i always use Nvidia
[22:33] <Sysi> slave for it
[22:33] <xaemonic> lol do u know if i can fullscreen with exented desktop and click on other without fullscreening evon?
[22:34] <evon> Sysi: I tried that but it does not work.  I wrote "/usr/lib/vino ./vino-settings"
[22:34] <Sysi> evon: it doesn't work like that
[22:34] <evon> Xaemonic: Not with an ATI Card.  Only with an Nvidia card
[22:34] <evon> Sysi: what's the command I have to use?
[22:35] <Sysi> evon: try rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and then save session on logout
[22:35] <Sysi> evon: old ati works far better than nvidia
[22:35] <xaemonic> are you sure evon? theirs no place i cant disable auto minimize?
[22:35] <evon> Sysi: What does that command do? I've always had a hard time with ATI
[22:35] <Sysi> i'll test if it's flash issue, if it is, complain to adobe
[22:35] <Sysi> evon: erases old sessions
[22:35] <xaemonic> dont think its flash
[22:36] <xaemonic> i think its auto dezined to auto minimize on click
[22:36] <xaemonic> of desktop
[22:36] <xaemonic> if i can find a option to turn that off then i can fullscreen and do other stuff
[22:36] <Sysi> nope, flash it is
[22:36] <xaemonic> without it dropping on me
[22:36] <xaemonic> its flash isue?
[22:36] <xaemonic> so would i be able to fullscreen with vlc
[22:36] <Sysi> happens for me too, normal videos work
[22:36] <xaemonic> and it not drop when i click over here?
[22:37] <xaemonic> if thts the case ill just download all my media
[22:37] <Sysi> vlc and gnome-mplayer both work well dualscreen with me, adobe's fault
[22:37] <xaemonic> oh ok!
[22:37] <Sysi> dualscreen/fullscreen
[22:37] <xaemonic> so i can watch movies on one screen and click and type on other
[22:37] <xaemonic> and u still have the fullscreen on ur second minotior?
[22:37] <xaemonic> awesome thanks sysi
[22:37] <Sysi> yup, how old ati do you have btw?
[22:37] <xaemonic> my ati
[22:37] <xaemonic> hold ill get u specs
[22:38] <Sysi> just model is enough
[22:38] <xaemonic> how do i find out in xubuntu
[22:39] <xaemonic> im usual a kde user but got sick of the glitches and graphics falures
[22:39] <xaemonic> gota love when ur whole screen turns to white and rainbow bars and no display lolz
[22:39] <Sysi> lspci | grep VGA
[22:40] <xaemonic>  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]
[22:40] <xaemonic> i tryed to get 3 desktops rollin on ubuntu but couldnt make it happen lol
[22:41] <xaemonic> wish i could increase my resolution and keep my extended desktop :(
[22:41] <xaemonic> but they dont fit when i up the resolution on ither of them
[22:42] <Sysi> back at the days you had to do that with xorg.conf... does menu → system → additional drivers offer you anything
[22:43] <xaemonic> nope drivers fully updated first thing i did when i installed xubuntu
[22:43] <Sysi> i'm not sure if i should recommend propietary ati drivers but well, it propably would hel fixing that
[22:43] <xaemonic> yeah i have ati catylist controller
[22:43] <xaemonic> but i dont use it cuz its buggy as hell
[22:44] <xaemonic> oh btw what is the cool looking mirc thats just black backround with white txt
[22:44] <xaemonic> its extreemly simple looking
[22:45] <KM0201> xaemonic: it could be irssi, but it could also be xchat, and someone just set the colors to be white on black
[22:45] <xaemonic> i use xchat
[22:45] <xaemonic> and theirs too many boxes and stuff
[22:45] <xaemonic> this mirc was realy simple
[22:45] <xaemonic> kinda looked like a terminal window
[22:46] <KM0201> xaemonic: then it was irssi
[22:46] <evon> are there any simple little programs for xubuntu that will show me my IP on my desktop or is their an easy way to create a static IP?
[22:46] <KM0201> xaemonic: or.. it was "most likely" irssi anyway.. there's several terminal clients out there
[22:46] <Sysi> i think you can get xchat quite minimal
[22:47] <KM0201> Sysi: yeah, you should be able to.
[22:47] <Sysi> change from tree-view to tabs and hide nicklist, and put colors as you like
[22:47] <KM0201> hide menus, hide user list, hide channel list
[22:47] <Sysi> or learn to use irssi
[22:47] <xaemonic> ok ill see thx
[22:49] <KM0201> i'm not a huge fan of irssi...
[22:49] <KM0201> i just never can figure out setting it up.
[22:50] <KM0201> xchat, is more or less "start and go".
[22:50] <Sysi> i'm using irssi because i'm running it inside gnu screen on server
[22:50] <xaemonic> cool
[22:50] <xaemonic> that sounds complicated lolz
[22:50] <Sysi> a bit
[22:50] <xaemonic> i know everyone gets mad at me when i bring this up but i gota ask for xchat how do i get fserv addon?
[22:51] <Sysi> fserv?
[22:51] <xaemonic> the thing that pops up Xaemonoic Fserv Anime Movies Games etc...
[22:51] <xaemonic> and u click on them
[22:51] <xaemonic> and u can download my stuff
[22:52] <xaemonic> or upload
[22:52] <xaemonic> i wont add it here ofcorse
[22:52]  * KM0201 has never heard of fserv
[22:52] <xaemonic> realy? go to dalnet and go to any movie game anime room etc
[22:52] <xaemonic> and youll see adds popup all the time
[22:52] <xaemonic> for peoples file servers
[22:52] <KM0201> xaemonic: well why don't you ask them?
[22:52] <xaemonic> because they all use windows
[22:53] <xaemonic> i want a linux version of that script they use
[22:53] <KM0201> xaemonic: then ask in #xchat
[22:53] <KM0201> xaemonic: its possible there isn't one
[22:53] <xaemonic> oh i never thought of that
[22:53] <xaemonic> thanks so much
[22:54] <evon> are there any simple little programs for xubuntu that will show me my IP on my desktop or is their an easy way to create a static IP?
[22:55] <Sysi> i think conky could do that some way
[22:55] <Sysi> !conky
[22:55] <Sysi> stupid bot
[22:55] <Sysi> !info conky
[22:58] <evon> sysi: does it use a lot of resources?
[22:58] <Sysi> nope
[22:58] <Sysi> look at the installation size
[22:59] <Sysi> it's possible that you could change to stating IP from network panel applet, but you never know about networkdamager
[23:49] <snii> When I try to use sudo, I get the message "can't open /etc/sudoers: No such file or directory". What do I do now?