[00:00] <zelda> your's will?
[00:00] <endeavormac> I'm trying to set the mtu of my machines to 9000. ifconfig mtu 9000 works on my two debian lenny boxes, but the same gives me this on intrepid: "SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid Argument"
[00:00] <nathanhelp> rectec794613: how long are you waiting?
[00:00] <zelda> ActionParsnip: Thanks Im going to go try that.
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> zelda: its the correct syntax for a package named gay
[00:00] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip: "sudo apt-get purge applicationName" does work..i just used it
[00:00] <hikenboot> greetings I figured out with (your help) that I didnt have  the sound modules loaded into the kernel...thanks..the sound test works great but I still get no sound from mplayer playing a dvd anyone know why?
[00:00] <rectec794613> like half an hour
[00:00] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip: what's the difference?
[00:00] <cheatersrealm> When I press a button on my numpad, it restarts X.  Where are the configs for keyboard settings in my homedir?
[00:00] <rectec794613> nathenhelp
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Frijolie: --purge is needed, purge on its own won't work
[00:01] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: that's not true as of Intrepid
[00:01] <nathanhelp> hikenboot: This is an obvious answer but one thats tripped me up a few times. is your headphones/speakers plugged into teh front or back?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: i'm old skool
[00:01] <rectec794613> just was playing my 360 while its waiting :P
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: damn these whipper snappers with their new ways
[00:01] <hikenboot> nathan the test sounds work ...but not the mplayer video sounds and such
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: and whatnot
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know where I could find a Class 1 bluetooth stereo (A2DP) headset?  I've only found Class 1 mono or Class 2 stereo so far.
[00:01] <Frijolie> ActionParsnip: looks like your "parsnips" need a little more "action" there
[00:02] <nathanhelp> hikenboot: is the voume turned up on mplayer?
[00:02] <Flannel> Frijolie: Please stay on topic
[00:02] <hikenboot> oh i see hold on
[00:02]  * zelda inputs the command "sudo apt-get purge Obama"
[00:02] <nathanhelp> *volume
[00:02] <tobberoth> I just installed Samba and set a folder to Share. I go to "My network places" on my Win XP... and nothing shows up.
[00:02] <enfefi> I have a PC with Hardy installed on it and Hardy is connected directly to internet through ethernet. I want to share my internet connection with a Palm Treo over Bluetooth. I have tried many tutorials and I have failed everytime. Does somebody if it is possible?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> hell, in my day we'd run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and the world was a better place
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> !ics | enfefi
[00:03] <Frijolie> !politics > zelda
[00:03] <zelda> ActionParsnip: I agree. This whole Auto configure is garbage
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> zelda: the old reconfigure was excellent but got ripped out
[00:03] <Chromax> Thanks again, everyone. I'm off to buy my new part. <3 u all
[00:04] <zelda> !idiot | Frijolie
[00:04] <Flannel> zelda: Please stop that
[00:04] <hikenboot> nathanhelp, it is showing it as not being mute and sound levels appear to be in middle even though for some reason i am unable to change it
[00:04] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Reboot from the ubuntu-cd, choose option 'Check CD for defects' to see if CD is burned well.
[00:04] <zelda> Omg, people relax
[00:04] <mezquitale> !politics >mezquitale
[00:04] <luisssissss> list
[00:04] <Frijolie> admins are hardcore around this place
[00:04] <nathanhelp> hikenboot: ok.. whats the master volume like?
[00:05] <zelda> ActionParsnip: I agree. I love the old one. I had to use it to get my configuration working
[00:05] <Vantrax> Frijolie, they have to be with 1200 people
[00:05] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: I tried but it does the same thing , nothing.
[00:05] <Frijolie> ls -a properIRCEtiquette
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> zelda: i have xorg.conf in my backup scope so I couldnt care less now :)
[00:05] <mezquitale> admins are not hardcore in this place, you need to go to the #java channel to see a hardcore admin
[00:05] <Decepticon> i am on ubuntu server, how can i get a gui that i can temporarily test if its too hard on my ram, and then get rid of COMPLETELY as if i had never installed it
[00:05] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: I'm not new to ubuntu, I've had it for quite a while
[00:05] <Flannel> !guidelines | Frijolie
[00:05] <zelda> Action: I had to use a 7.10 Live to configure this xorg in 8.10
[00:05] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Booting LIVE-cd can that a lot of time ! Especially on slower system ( low memory e.g. ).
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> mezquitale: on the contrary, head over to #unix
[00:06] <Frijolie> ls -a allAdminsInIRCUbuntu
[00:06] <adam7> Decepticon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, test, sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop
[00:06] <adam7> or something like that
[00:06] <josher4> CyberGabber, it is so so
[00:06] <Decepticon> adam7 but it will create random ass files in ~/ and god knows what else
[00:06] <datta> hello, i need to stream jumptv but i cannot stream it with vlc player. how can i?
[00:06] <Frijolie> 'bad command or filename'
[00:06] <adam7> Decepticon: well, make a new user.
[00:07] <adam7> Decepticon: or mount a tmpfs disk over /home
[00:07] <Decepticon> adam7, yeah i will, but it will still throw files in random places like /etc/ and /var and i dont know where else
[00:07] <luisssissss> #linuxmint
[00:07] <josher4> I have used the Live cd for a little bit and it runs smoothly
[00:07] <adam7> Decepticon: or mount a unionfs with a tmpfs over ~
[00:07] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: idk it didnt take thay much time before, and the same thing happened when i try to boot off my old 7.10 cd, then it says it cant read the blocks or something
[00:07] <Frijolie> Vantrax: I understand....they've got a full-time job
[00:07] <mezquitale> Decepticon, if you dont have a lot of ram I HIGHLY suggest you use xubuntu desktop
[00:07] <zelda> Frijolie: ACtually it would be unknown package
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> !xubuntu
[00:07] <Decepticon> yes im familiar with xfce
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: or fluxbox
[00:07] <adam7> Decepticon: the best thing is if you have backups, install whatever and then restore from the backup
[00:07] <Decepticon> yeah but im interested in gnome
[00:08] <refefer> hey mates, is there anyway I can search inside files from the command line?  I'm looking for a class definition in about 100mbs of code, so... command line maybe?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: if you have low ram, gnome will perform poorly
[00:08] <Wicked> im trying to reactive my lvm partitions...when doing so im getting this error. http://pastebin.com/m1e5bd823
[00:08] <Slart> refefer: grep
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> refefer: grep
[00:08] <Frijolie> zelda: actually it would be 'cannot access allAdminsInIRCUbuntu: no such file or directory'
[00:08] <adam7> refefer: grep myword * (or grep -r myword * for recursive)
[00:08] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Sounds like you CD-rom is faulty / lens not clean orsomething ? Does it read any other CD's ?
[00:08] <Decepticon> i got enough ram for gnome
[00:08] <refefer> can you search within files using that?
[00:08] <refefer> not just file names?
[00:08] <Slart> refefer: that's what it does
[00:08] <cheatersrealm> refefer, yes
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> refefer: thats what grep does
[00:09] <refefer> excellent
[00:09] <Decepticon> im worried about ram left over for my other processs while gnome is on
[00:09] <datta> i need to stream jumptv but i cannot stream it with vlc player. how can i? please help me
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> refefer: man grep
[00:09] <adam7> Decepticon: how much ram do you have?
[00:09] <Decepticon> i think 1gb, how do i check?
[00:09] <dougb> is there a bleeding edge version of ubuntu?
[00:09] <adam7> Decepticon: free -m
[00:09] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: um it read my vista cd (I had to reinstall it cuz it messed up bootmgr)
[00:09] <Decepticon> Sememmon: 971 959 11 0 10 618
[00:09] <Decepticon> 971mb ram?
[00:09] <Decepticon> 1gb ram i guess
[00:09] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: and the cd is clean
[00:10] <adam7> Decepticon: that should be plenty for Gnome
[00:10] <Flannel> dougb: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for the development version
[00:10] <Decepticon> adam7 im running some heavy rtorrent processes though
[00:10] <luisssissss> i type "/list" but nothing happens
[00:10] <adam7> Decepticon: how much is used at the moment?
[00:10] <mordof> is there a program for ubuntu server that i could use to remote admin a windows 2000 comp? (would i have to install X, amongst other things to get gui to work)...
[00:10] <Decepticon> free -m says 959 of 971 is used
[00:10] <Flannel> luisssissss: /msg alis list #*term*
[00:10] <datta> can anyone please please help me please
[00:10] <Decepticon> adam7, and that 11 is free
[00:10] <Decepticon> adam7 and 618 is cached
[00:11] <adam7> Decepticon: is the 11 including cache'd or not?
[00:11] <datta> please help me
[00:11] <CyberGabber> !help | datta
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> mordof: i think you'd need an X server, but you can use rdesktop
[00:11] <Decepticon> adam7 i do not know
[00:11] <Guest30331> hi, how do to change a channel in spanish ?
[00:11] <Flannel> !helpme | datta
[00:11] <Decepticon> adam7 here is the output of free -m http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230682349
[00:11] <Flannel> Guest30331: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:11] <mordof> ActionParsnip: any idea how hard it wold be to get X installed and running on ubuntu server?
[00:12] <Flannel> mordof: very easy
[00:12] <mordof> ActionParsnip: on top of that, i'd need to learn how to ssh into a graphical session too ; ; lol
[00:12] <rww> mordof: sudo apt-get install xorg for a basic X server, or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for the full Ubuntu package set
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> mordof: sudo apt-get install xorg
[00:12] <datta> i need to stream jumptv but i cannot stream it with vlc player. how can i?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> mordof: would seem fitting
[00:13] <rww> !vnc | mordof
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> mordof: for a lesser set run: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[00:13] <shingen> how do I go about adding something to my bootup?  for some stupid reason, intrepid isn't running dmraid -ay when booting, so it can't see my fakeraid in dev/mapper
[00:13] <habit> Hello. Help me please - @ nm-applet I must add some routes - but I don't know how to do it. I have writed it @ interfaces file before. This is example: up route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 gw <IP_ADDRESS>  But at nm-applet I can see address, mask, gateway, metric. What does that means? How to enter mine route there?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> mordof: its lighter than gnome + metacity
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> mordof: leaving more resources for computing
[00:13] <adam7> Decepticon: you have 331 mb left
[00:14] <zelda> Xfce is a nice desktop
[00:14] <Decepticon> adam7 ... how do yo ufigure
[00:14] <cheatersrealm> is vnc over ssh faster than ssh x forwarding?
[00:14] <wilbyj> Hi everyone.
[00:14] <adam7> Decepticon: well, it would be close
[00:14] <Decepticon> adam7 htop says Mem:971M used:330M buffers:10M cache:616Load average: 1.70 1.32 1.17
[00:14] <mordof> ActionParsnip: situation: my comp is windows xp. my server is ubuntu server, i'm attempting to hook up a compy with win 2000 for my grandma on the same lan as my server. to repair any problems she has, i want to ssh into my server, and remote admin the win 2k box from there - so i don't have to open even more ports to her comp.  is that possible with fluxbox do you know?
[00:14] <adam7> Decepticon: I'd guess you don't have enough room, because your free -m indicates you are swapping
[00:15] <adam7> mordof: you can forward the remote desktop ports through sSH I think
[00:15] <Decepticon> adam7, what! i dont even have a gui and im swapping?
[00:15] <mordof> adam7: different computers.. i wouldn't know how tbh
[00:15] <adam7> Decepticon: Swap:          total/509        used/386        free/123
[00:16] <adam7> mordof: I'm not entirely sure either tbh, but I think it can be done
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> mordof: you can always telnet but thats more ports
[00:16] <mordof> adam7: doing 2 remote connectios. windows xp -> ssh -> ubuntu server -> rdesktop (or other remote admin) -> grandmas comp over lan
[00:16] <Decepticon> adam7, right but htop says, Mem:971M used:330M buffers:9M cache:618MLoad average: 1.09 1.22 1.15
[00:16] <wilbyj> I just installed 8.10 on an Averatec 3715eh laptop. I have two issues I was hoping to get help with.
[00:16] <Decepticon> adam7 doesnt that mean that 330M out of 971M is used
[00:16] <adam7> Decepticon: yeah. so I would guess at some point in the past your memory was filled and it started swapping
[00:16] <adam7> Decepticon: and you've never used the stuff that was swapped, so it's still on disk
[00:17] <shingen> mordof: tunnelling over two hops should be fine, port 3389 will work over multiple hops
[00:17] <wilbyj> The first is the wireless card kernel module for rt2500 seems to be exceedingly slow.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> mordof: if the final destination is win2k, make sure its server so it has rdp, but i believe you need X libs to run it, i could be wrong
[00:17] <dlstyley> ActionParsnip:  that didn't work so well... killed the keyboard.   Navigating is hard enough without the mouse.  ;)
[00:17] <adam7> mordof: right -- you can tell the SSH server to allow you to forward to the windows box
[00:17] <Decepticon> adam7, so do you still think its a good idea to install gnome on this machine
[00:17] <adam7> mordof: one sec, I'll see how you do it
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dlstyley: mouse is for games and internet only here
[00:17] <Decepticon> adam7 if theres evidence that ive been swapping, that is
[00:17] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: are you there?
[00:17] <adam7> Decepticon: no, probably not. try Fluxbox
[00:17] <mordof> adam7: :o ooh, so i wouldn't need to install any gui on my server for it? *hopeful*
[00:17] <shingen> mordof: unless you're doing something wrong with ssh.  you will only need X Windows on the client
[00:17] <rectec794613> nope.
[00:18] <Decepticon> adam7 well the intent of installing a gui is that im trying to make it noob friendly
[00:18] <adam7> mordof: I think that's correct
[00:18] <Decepticon> adam7 fluxbox maybe a little confusing for a winxp user
[00:18] <shingen> mordof: no gui needed at all on intermediary boxes, you just need to know your ssh commandlines
[00:18] <Decepticon> adam7 do you agree?
[00:18] <luisssissss> any way can somebody tell why i cant install ubuntu intrepid?, everytime i try to it just freeze, i mean i actually did install it but, at th end when restarting it never download the desktop, why is this happening does anyone knows pls???
[00:18] <mordof> shingen: ^^ i haven't attempted to set it up yet, i'm not that great with linux/ssh yet.. been a bit of a struggle
[00:18] <adam7> Decepticon: maybe, but if they can't use a linux box why are they messing with your server? :P
[00:18] <rectec794613> let me restate my question, again, when i try to boot off the 8.10 live cd, it gets to the point where the orange bar moves back and forth, but it wont stop. I just burned the iso with active iso burner to a rewritable cd at 4x and thats all the details i can think of.
[00:18] <Decepticon> adam7 theyre paying me heh
[00:18] <cheatersrealm> mordof, google for ssh tunnel and ssh port forwarding. I've done it before but don't remember.  man ssh might also be helpful.
[00:19] <shingen> anybody know to change the sequence of init scripts during boot?  apparently dmraid is being run too early
[00:19] <mordof> cheatersrealm: ok
[00:19] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Yes, but is still think its a CD-rom problem, because you also could'nt read your old CD.
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> shingen: look at the man page for  -->  update-rc.d
[00:19] <idea4good> i have an issue with wifi on ubuntu its shaky
[00:19] <shingen> mordof: you'll be using the -R command alot
[00:19] <Samuel-NotAFK> eeeek 21.1MB left in my root partition!
[00:19] <wilbyj> luisssissss: did you try using safe graphics mode to install? I thinks its F4 at bottom of screen.
[00:19] <idea4good> in the sense the wifi is connected and then signal is lost
[00:20]  * zelda has to read the Linux Bible again
[00:20] <shingen> onetinsoldier: I need it for bootup sequence, not for services that start afterwards
[00:20] <wilbyj> idea4good: what wireless card chipset?
[00:20] <shingen> onetinsoldier: stuck in initramfs
[00:20] <adam7> mordof: ssh -L 9999:windowsserver:110 shellserver where 9999 is the windows port and 110 is the port on the local machine
[00:21] <rectec794613> CyberGabber: um should i burn the iso again?
[00:21] <idea4good> intel 3948
[00:21] <andresmh> my other laptop with intrepid stopped listening to the keyboard, mouse and apps keep working but I am not sure what's going on with the keyboard? any clues?
[00:21] <luisssissss> nnah
[00:21] <dlstyley> ActionParsnip:  any other suggestions?
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> shingen: ok, so you mean a kernel module then?
[00:21] <luisssissss> i did it several time and also check integrity of the iso and is fine
[00:21] <luisssissss> rectec
[00:21] <zelda> dlstyley: Sudo apt-get remove xorg
[00:21] <luisssissss> but it keeps happenig the same
[00:21] <mordof> adam7: hmmmm.. what would i need to install on my win 2k box to get that to work? would i need an ssh server there?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> dlstyley: wassup?
[00:22] <akbrennan> hey all,
[00:22] <adam7> mordof: no, you just need to know what the port for rdesktop on the windows box is
[00:22] <andresmh> help! :) the keyboard on one of my laptops stops working for some reason, i am not sure how to debug that
[00:22] <akbrennan> happy almost new-years
[00:22] <wilbyj> andresmh: I had the same problem but after several trys and booting installing in safe graphics mode it cleared up.
[00:22] <luisssissss> i think rectec is got to do with yur pc
[00:22] <luisssissss> is old or something like the proccesor is damged somehow cause i got the same problem
[00:23] <dlstyley> ActionParsnip:  usb mouse no worky... works fine on Windows.  Opitical light does not come on in Ubu.  lsbusb recognizes it.
[00:23] <mordof> adam7: i'm lost :s lol. i think this is over my head with my knowledge
[00:23] <wilbyj> Anyone know about poor wireless for rt2500?
[00:23] <rectec794613> Everything else runs fine, luisssissss
[00:23] <andresmh> wilbyj, well, everything was working fine for a few days, was that your case too?
[00:23] <adam7> mordof: ok -- do you have remote desktop enabled on the windows box?
[00:23] <ConstantineXVI> Can mencoder (or something else) convert to .SMV?
[00:23] <dlstyley> zelda:  remove and then reinstall xorg?
[00:23] <mordof> adam7: which one? xp or 2k
[00:23] <adam7> mordof: one sec
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> ConstantineXVI: if you have codecs, yes
[00:24] <rectec794613> Im gonna get 1gb ram today or tomarrow, luisssissss
[00:24] <zelda> dlstyley: whats your issue?
[00:24] <luisssissss> yea i know retec like mine runs ok with older distros but the new ones dont and onn top of that my internet conncetion became slow
[00:24] <adam7> mordof: windows xp -> ssh -> ubuntu server -> rdesktop (or other remote admin) -> grandmas comp over lan
[00:24] <rectec794613> wish ur name was erasier to spell, luisssisss
[00:24] <rww> !tab | rectec794613
[00:24] <adam7> mordof: so you need remote desktop on grandma's computer
[00:24] <dlstyley> dlstyley:  usb mouse quit working on upgrade to 8.10.  still works under XP
[00:24] <luisssissss> that might help rectec do that and c what happens
[00:24] <mordof> adam7: ok. i haven't set that computer up yet entirely, but i'm writing this down, lol.
[00:25] <shingen> mordof: is there any reason you're not using free services for grandma like gotomypc?  it'd be easier for you
[00:25] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: If the CD-test didn't fail, i don't think it will help. Sorry i have to go to sleep. Good luck...
[00:25] <dlstyley> zelda:  usb mouse quit working on upgrade to 8..10.   still works under xp
[00:25] <rectec794613> k
[00:25] <luisssissss> rectec what do you mena with my name?????
[00:25] <zxcvbs> hi im trying to figure how ubuntu sets pulseaudio as default alsa master, where can i find? there is no asoundrc or asound.conf
[00:25] <adam7> mordof: what shingen says
[00:25] <zelda> dlstyley: really? Interesting... try rebootin
[00:25] <mordof> shingen: i didn't want to open up a port directly to my grandmas computer for something
[00:25] <rectec794613> kinda hard to spell
[00:25] <andresmh> ctrl+alt+backspace worked but this is the second time my keyboard went into a state where it didn't seem to work
[00:25] <dlstyley> zelda:  done and done and done some more.
[00:25] <rectec794613> its nothing
[00:25] <mordof> shingen: was hoping to be able to route it through my server that already has my ssh server set up
[00:25] <luisssissss> just say luis
[00:25] <adam7> mordof: logmein is what I use, works great, no open ports on the router
[00:25] <rectec794613> yeah k, luis
[00:26] <shingen> mordof: if you have SSH running at grandma's house, sure it's real easy...
[00:26] <luisssissss> is actually my real name
[00:26] <idea4good> i dont know it was working fine before
[00:26] <adam7> mordof: you can do it through the ssh server, but it's more complicated :P
[00:26] <zelda> dlstyley: Whats the manufacturer of the mouse?
[00:26] <rectec794613> is cybergabber saying that the cd test fixes it ore something? im not even sure it'll run
[00:26] <dlstyley> zelda:  microsoft - works under Windows.  Go figure.
[00:26] <idea4good> I am using ubuntu 7.10 on intel 3945 ABG wireless card
[00:26] <shingen> mordof: just SSH into the ssh server at grandma's and use ssh -D 9999<EMAIL_ADDRESS>will open up a socks4 proxy on port 9999 which you can use to connect to any resource at grandma's
[00:27] <zelda> dlstyley: DO you have like a 7.10 live cd around?
[00:27] <mordof> bah, screw it. i'll just open up a port for her (adam7 - logmein, i don't know how something would work with no open ports, unless it's uPnP capable. otherwise not sure how you'd be able to connect)
[00:27] <adam7> mordof: the client connects to the server
[00:27] <adam7> mordof: not vice versa
[00:27] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Run the CD-test, just to see if the medium (CD) isn't broken / damaged.
[00:27] <mordof> shingen: yeah.. for now i'll just set up a direct remote connection.  i won't understand what i'm doing if i try to attempt this i think, so i'll mess it up easily, lol
[00:28] <dlstyley> zelda:  probably.  This just started with recent updates (I believe it was 8.10 - could have been a kernel upgrade since).  It will sometimes come back, but usually dead.  Works 100% under windows.
[00:28] <rectec794613> ok i hope it wont mess up my bootmgr, CyberGabber
[00:28] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: Just by booting the ubuntu-cd, and choosing option 'Check CD for defects.'
[00:28] <mordof> adam7: ah.. don't think it's a good idea to leave my grandma to doing that XD but i'll consider it
[00:28] <adam7> mordof: anyway, if you get it all set up, ssh -L 3389:windowsboxip:3389 shellserver and then point rdesktop at localhost:3389
[00:28] <zelda> dlstyley: throw that 7.10 live in and see if it works in there. If it does, then you have to reconfigure your xorg
[00:29] <adam7> mordof: it does it automatically, no user intervention
[00:29] <idea4good> anybody can help me with wifi on ubuntu 7.10 with intel 3945 ab
[00:29] <shingen> mordof: if you don't have an SSH server at grandmas, reverse SSHing would require you to open up a SSH connection from grandma's to home and then using cygwin or something similar to keep it running with autossh and then you'd need to learn the ssh -R and -L commands pretty well to redirect your traffic... more pain for you and grandma though
[00:29] <CyberGabber> rectec794613: It's does nothing more thanjust checking if the CD is al right, it leaves your HDD untouched with that option.
[00:29] <rectec794613> ok i'll report in a few mins, if i can still get on, CyberGabber, like i said im pretty experienced, but i've never encountered anything like this
[00:29] <mordof> shingen: sounds scary..
[00:29] <rectec794613> hey can i use that /me command?
[00:30] <rectec794613> im new to irc
[00:30] <shingen> mordof: not painful, I do it all the time to violate my acceptable use policy at work :P
[00:30] <ConstantineXVI> oh, can mplayer/encoder handle CSS?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> rectec794613: its /me first person verb
[00:30] <rectec794613> no time, later
[00:30] <rectec794613> noted
[00:30] <zelda> Lol
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> rectec794613: e.g. /me likes fluxbox
[00:31]  * shingen picks his nose.  How gross.
[00:31] <idea4good> wilby you still around
[00:31]  * dexi cant remember how he got facebook chat to work on pidgin last time :(
[00:32] <dexi> anyone here proficient with facebook chat on pidgin?
[00:32] <rww> dexi: install http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/
[00:32] <rww> dexi: that worked for me on Windows XP a few months ago, anyway
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dexi: try the username as your email address
[00:32] <adam7> dexi: there is a plugin
[00:33] <dexi> lol yeah guys i got the plugin its not showing up in the accounts list
[00:33] <dexi> I remember having this problem last time but i dont remember how i fixed it
[00:33] <adam7> dexi: did you create a new account?
[00:33]  * dexi blushes
[00:34] <dexi> forgot to restart pidgin
[00:34] <dexi> lol im not used to having to restart cuz the other plugins load without a restart :(
[00:34] <dexi> haha silly me :)
[00:35] <dexi> oh yeah
[00:35] <dexi> one other thing i couldnt remember
[00:35] <rww> !enter
[00:35] <dexi> isnt there some type of alltools thing that i need for make-install and such?
[00:36] <rww> dexi: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[00:36] <dexi> ooh right thank you
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> and apt-get install automake
[00:38] <dexi> >.>
[00:38]  * dexi tests out flash without high expectations
[00:38] <kapu> I am making a server. I bought a 3ware pci raid card.
[00:38] <kapu> Although the controller fits in both 32-bit and 64-bit PCI or
[00:38] <kapu> PCI-X slots with 5V as well as with 3.3V,it says to install it in a 64-
[00:38] <kapu> bit slot to take full advantage of the controller’s
[00:39] <kapu> performance. Does that mean I need to run a 64bit os?
[00:39] <FloodBot2> kapu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <kapu> oops
[00:39] <dexi> HOLY SHIT
[00:39] <dexi> FLASH IS WORKING
[00:39] <kapu> sry 4 the flood
[00:39] <adam7> !language | de
[00:39] <dexi> duuude
[00:40] <FloodBot2> dexi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <blackest_knight> this is weird there is apparently 1 person in the room and its not me
[00:40] <adam7> !language | dexi
[00:40] <dexi> sry floodbot :p
[00:40] <dexi> sry ubottu :p
[00:40] <rww> dexi: amazing when it just works, isn't it :)
[00:40] <dexi> yes rww :)
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dexi: its not hat hard
[00:40] <dexi> not swearing, or getting flash to work ActionParsnip?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> dexi: both
[00:40] <rww> ActionParsnip: considering how many people we get in here with Flash problems...
[00:41] <smallfry> whats the latest kernel-scources?
[00:41] <dexi> ah
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> rww: i dont see the problem, I think people overthink it
[00:41] <blackest_knight> well would be less if flash was  installed for firefox
[00:41] <dexi> jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin in opera
[00:41] <dexi> clicked open, didnt open
[00:41] <dexi> >.>
[00:41] <shingen> arrrrgh somebody bugged this issue in 2007 and it's still not fixed in 8.10 which claims to support this?!?!?!
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> dexi: chmod +x jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
[00:41] <dexi> ty
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> dexi: the run it with ./jre-6u11-linux-i586.bin
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> dexi: make sure you are in the same dir as the file
[00:42] <smallfry> could someone help me please?
[00:42] <rww> blackest_knight: the package flashplugin-nonfree should do that =/. Ubuntu can't ship with Flash by default due to licensing restrictions, hence it requiring a separate package.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> shingen: whats the issue?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> smallfry: wassup?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> smallfry: depends on what you mean. for Intrepid source? or kernel.org source? for Interpid i think it's 2.6.27-11. that's what i have anyway
[00:43] <blackest_knight> it doesnt thou, pain in the b... gettin flash 10 set up
[00:43] <shingen> ActionParsnip: fakeraid timeout during initramfs, easily solved by tossing sleep 10 in :P
[00:44] <dexi> ok
[00:44] <dexi> next issue: 5.1 sound
[00:44] <dexi> i dont think creative makes linux drivers do they?
[00:44] <LetsGo67> !dvd
[00:44] <MAXI-MUM> i cant boot into ubuntu after upgrade new ram 2x2GB =4gb , vista sees them 3.3 GB i read it's a limitation of my chipset it can reed max 3.3 gb any way is there a way to limit the ability of the kernel to discover the amount of memory i need to restrict it to 2 gb only that would make me able to dual boot ubuntu and vista again
[00:44] <seyfarth> Question. Does Firestarter automatically start on login, or is there a way to make it do that? The last time I ran ubuntu, about a year ago, it didn't do this.
[00:45] <blackest_knight> dexi google alsa 1.0.18 alsa ubuntu forums :)
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> dexi: yes... they released an open-source version of them back in November for the X-Fi
[00:45] <kapu> Does anyone here have knowledge that pertains to the nature of pci slots? I have a device (card) that says it runs best in a 64 bit slot. Does that mean I need a 64 bit cpu, and a 64 bit os as well?
[00:45] <dexi> ooh cool onetinsoldier :)
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> seyfarth, what are you using firestarter for?
[00:45] <dexi> black will i need alsa if i have that?
[00:45] <ozgur> what's the command to install a downloaded package?
[00:45] <dexi> sudo apt-get install xxx
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> dexi: i don't know how hard it is getting them installed though
[00:45] <dexi> oh
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ozgur, is it a deb?
[00:45] <dexi> well i'll take a look
[00:45] <ozgur> yes
[00:46] <zsquareplusc> kapu: i think a 32 bit os works too. but the 64 bit OS will have better performance
[00:46] <shingen> kapu: no, it's only the bandwidth that's used for the bus interface (64 bit), it has nothing to do with the cpu interface
[00:46] <seyfarth> Jack_Sparrow: Just in case. I'm at a university, and the school's firewall only protects from connections outside the school. Students can get curious :)
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> zsquareplusc, Very little performance gain with 64 bit
[00:46] <zsquareplusc> MAXI-MUM: the 3.something GB is a limit of the 32bit address room. however, also ubuntu should see these and still work
[00:46] <kapu> How would a 64 bit bus interface be denoted on a spec sheet?
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> seyfarth, Sounds like window mentality.  You do not need firestarter to be protected i ubuntu
[00:47] <seyfarth> Okay, thank you!
[00:47] <kapu> is there a common name for such a feature?
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[00:47] <zsquareplusc> Jack_Sparrow: well the figures in that mac mini ubuntu 32/64 comparison shows that's not just 1% but much more in some cases
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> seyfarth, Most new users are less secure when they run firestarted
[00:47] <shingen> kapu: depends on the tech writer
[00:47] <MAXI-MUM> zsquareplusc, no it dont boot it reach the gdm and blank just before gdm i think before X
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> zsquareplusc, In some cases with some applications
[00:48] <dexi> augh. is there anything further i need to do with that java .bin? opera is still bugging me about it
[00:48] <kapu> is pci-x synonymous with 64 bit?
[00:48] <seyfarth> I understand. Thanks for your help!
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> seyfarth, np
[00:48] <rww> seyfarth: if you decide you do need a firewall, though, check out ufw. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823741 . It comes with Ubuntu 8.10 and is nice and easy to use (and not as broken as firestarter >.>)
[00:48] <shingen> kapu: yes, it's the 64 bit version of PCI, found in higher end workstation and server motherboards back in the PIII & PIV era... it's somewhat outdated now
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> Jack_Sparrow: i refer to that http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_macosx&num=1  and there the difference is significant in most tests
[00:49] <kapu> shingen,  you are very helpful . Thank you for your time. It is much appreciated. :-)
[00:49] <shingen> kapu: anytime
[00:49] <Jack_Sparrow> zsquareplusc, From years in here,, the real life experiences of our users dont agree with that
[00:49] <zsquareplusc> MAXI-MUM: ah, so it starts up but it fails to run X?
[00:50] <kevin_> Bonsoir tout le monde
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> dexi: Creative X-Fi How-To --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870001
[00:50] <rww> !fr | kevin_
[00:50] <ELPC> Bonjour
[00:50] <habit> My volume applet does not dissapears after click anywhere at desktop, I can close him only by clicking on him. How to fix it? Really annoying.
[00:50] <ELPC> Hello
[00:50] <kevin_> je re
[00:50] <kevin_> Hi how are ou
[00:50] <kevin_> ?
[00:50] <ELPC> I have a problem with a debian ( lenn ) gnome menu freeze
[00:50] <ELPC> Nice
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> !debian | ELPC
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> ELPC: head to #debian
[00:51] <kevin_> how are where ?
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> kevin_, if you have a support question , please ask, all on one line thanks
[00:51] <ELPC> Ya but I see that ubuntu have this bug
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> ELPC: debian is not ubuntu
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ELPC, Please /j #Debian
[00:51] <ELPC> I'm on
[00:52] <dexi> onetinsoldier: that site says the driver doesnt work on hardy, so it probably doesnt work on intrepid, either, huh?
[00:52] <dexi> considering it was written in july
[00:53] <rww> Jack_Sparrow: 1) Several IRC clients don't support /j, as it isn't a part of IRC's specification; consider instructing people to use /join instead. 2) The Debian channel is on OFTC, not Freenode, now, isn't it?
[00:53] <ELPC> No body had some problem with the gnome application menu ( freeze )
[00:53] <shingen> fwiw, there is a debian channel on freenode
[00:53] <zxcvbs> hi im trying to clean some configurations, im using intrepid 8.10 how i disable alsa dmix?
[00:54] <_cb> When I click on an mp3 I am told I need to download codecs. What should I download?
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> rww,Noted, but I have yet to have a user not be able to /j.. but none the less.. noted
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> dexi: it probably does work on Intrepid would be my guess. i don't know, but i should try to find out by going through the How-To, which i think i'll do right now! ;-)
[00:54] <adam7> _cb: doesn't it offer to do that for you?
[00:54] <shingen> Jack_Sparrow: pidgin doesn't do /j
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> shingen, Ah.. the worst of the irc clients
[00:55] <rww> _cb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[00:55] <shingen> Jack_Sparrow: yes, but it's installed with ubuntu by default and most ubuntu docs say to use it :D
[00:55] <dexi> lol ok onetinsoldier sounds good :) i'll take a look as well
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> _cb: ubuntu doesnt come with mp3 codecs by default
[00:55] <blackest_knight> what to do with 300gb of stuff ? sort it or delete it?
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> blackest_knight, Offtopic
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> shingen, Xchat is pre-scripted to come here..
[00:56] <onetinsoldier> dexi: roger
[00:56] <grinn>  i'm trying to install ubuntu on a netbook, but i'm having problems because the windows are too long for my screen
[00:57] <irbdavid> which netbooks are best supported by ubuntu?
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[00:57] <zsquareplusc> grinn: alt+leftclick to drag windows
[00:57] <irbdavid> looking at the samsung nc10 , but its  a bit pricey
[00:57] <irbdavid> thanks
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:57] <grinn> I'm currently at a prompt screen and I don't know what to do
[00:57] <ferret_0567> why was Firky banned from here?
[00:57] <w3rd_> hey guys does compiz fusion not work with intel graphicS?
[00:58] <flo-isback> irbdavid: eeepc probally
[00:58] <grinn> Is there anyone I can PM for help?
[00:58] <ferret_0567> w3rd_: it should work with intel graphics
[00:58] <rww> ferret_0567: discussions of operator actions belong in #ubuntu-ops, not here
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> irbdavid: you'll find theres a distro fror each specific netbbok (e.g minibuntu)
[00:58] <w3rd_> im not able to enable the enhanced features
[00:58] <w3rd_> its says it cant?
[00:58] <irbdavid> flo-isback: i suspected that to be honest, but the EEEs seem kinda flimsy to me
[00:58] <pablolibo> helo world
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ferret_, Tell him to come to #Ubuntu-ops and discuss it
[00:58] <w3rd_> my cards dont support 3d then?
[00:59] <pablolibo> what is your cards?
[00:59] <dsdeiz> hi how do i know the current permission of a file in 'numbers'? such as 777, 750, etc? :D
[00:59] <khoollah> hi guys Why my Ubuntu 8.10 doesnt see 4 GB of RAM only 3 GB?
[00:59] <w3rd_> how can i tell?
[00:59] <shingen> dsdeiz: google is your friend, search for 'octal permissions'
[00:59] <blackest_knight> khoollah 32 bit I think
[01:00] <pablolibo> are ubuntu is 386?
[01:00] <w3rd_> yes
[01:00] <w3rd_> 8.10
[01:00] <pablolibo> 386?
[01:00] <w3rd_> yes
[01:00] <blackest_knight> khoollah try a 64bit live cd
[01:00] <pablolibo> x386?
[01:00] <Flannel> shingen: Please don't take that stance here.
[01:00] <khoollah> can i upgrade?
[01:00] <khoollah> can i upgrade live through internet?
[01:00] <Flannel> dsdeiz: permissions are r w x (read, write, execute), r = 4, w = 2, x = 1.  See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[01:01] <phix> shingen: man chmod is your friend too
[01:01] <R0b0t1> I've mounted an .iso with "Archive Mounter", how would I go about playing it? It is a DVD movie.
[01:01] <flo-isback> irbdavid: eee seem quite over priced , look at acpire or cloud book
[01:01] <zsquareplusc> !pm | grinn
[01:01] <dsdeiz> ok thanks
[01:01] <phix> zsquareplusc: I find that very rude
[01:01] <pablolibo> yes, you can
[01:01] <rww> !upgrade | khoollah
[01:01] <irbdavid> Seems that the trackpads are generally the suckiest parts of netbooks
[01:01] <zsquareplusc> phix: sorry? what?
[01:01] <grinn> Sorry, zsquareplusc
[01:01] <khoollah> thank U
[01:01] <dexi> uhmmmm
[01:02] <dexi> whats the comand to run something from terminal?
[01:02] <dexi> >.>
[01:02] <irbdavid> got a friend with the dell one, which is pretty nice apart from having a naff trackpad
[01:02] <mindrape> dexi - uh... just type the command name?
[01:02] <flo-isback> irbdavid:  here all similar eeepc laptops http://wiki.eeeuser.com/devices_similar_to_the_eee_pc
[01:02] <mindrape> or do you mean like ALT + F2?
[01:02]  * dexi typed the filename to open
[01:02] <shingen> dexi: unless you have . in your path, usually it's ./filename
[01:02] <zsquareplusc> grinn: did you try to move the window with the mouse left button and the ALT key pressed?
[01:02] <mindrape> dexi - you need to use nautilus if you want file associations to work and the appropriate app to launch it.
[01:02] <shingen> dexi: and that's only if you have execute permissions
[01:02] <dexi> k
[01:03] <mindrape> dexi - otherwise you need to            vlc someviddy.mpg         as an example and define the app that will launch it.
[01:03] <dexi> ill just see if i can do it gui
[01:03] <flo-isback> irbdavid:  i have an eeepc and the track pad is quite horrible =/
[01:03] <phix> zsquareplusc: being messaged privately without asking for permission :)
[01:03] <Philosophocles> dexi you need leopard
[01:03] <dexi> >.>
[01:03] <grinn> zsquareplusc: I'm not at an interface that i can do that at ... I'm stuck at a command prompt
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc > flo-isback,
[01:03] <iLogic> hey.. I'm having a hard time installing ubuntu 8.10, the loading bar just freezes a little before the third cell every time.. any thoughts?
[01:03] <zsquareplusc> phix: he did, so i used the bot :-)
[01:03] <irbdavid> the samsung one gets decent reviews, and has a larger battery
[01:03] <phix> zsquareplusc: :)
[01:03] <irbdavid> might be worth the extra ~30% cost
[01:03] <phix> I like ASUS
[01:04] <mindrape> iLogic: CTRL ALT F1 to drop to console and see what is going on behind the scenes to hold it up.
[01:04] <zsquareplusc> grinn: oh, you run the text mode installer or is it stuck at an error?
[01:04] <faryshta> hi, is it hard to create a liveUSB?
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[01:04] <phix> faryshta: well you don't need to have a Phd, but it is recommended
[01:04] <phix> anyway, my work here is done
[01:05] <phix> *idle*
[01:05] <blackest_knight> unetbootin is easy
[01:05] <TMD-Dubbed> I am running unbuntu 8.10 and i have a soundblaster sound card and i get static from left ch
[01:05] <TMD-Dubbed> channel
[01:05] <Doonz> hey guys what is the file that specifies what hard disk to boot off of
[01:06] <blackest_knight> grub ?
[01:06] <rww> Doonz: are you talking about /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[01:06] <grinn> I'm not sure ... it says "Busybox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu6) built-in shell (ash)
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Doonz, grub/menu.lst
[01:06] <faryshta> what is a persistent liveUSB?
[01:06] <Doonz> thanx guys
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> faryshta, You boot a livecd but changes are saved to the usb
[01:06] <zsquareplusc> grinn: ah, that means it isn't finding the live cd (or live usb stick)   what is your installation media? cd? usb?
[01:06] <faryshta> Thanks cptn Jack_Sparrow
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:07] <grinn> cd thru usb
[01:07] <grinn> zsquareplusc: cd thru usb
[01:07] <iLogic> mindrape: i'm getting a lot of udevd-events that says run_program: exec of program failed, for stuff like /lib/cdrom_id, vol_id, hdparm and /sbin/modprobe
[01:07] <dexi> wait
[01:07] <dexi> ok i tried to cd into it but it said its not a directoruy
[01:07] <dexi> directory*
[01:07] <zsquareplusc> grinn: you mean a cd rom drive with USB connection? maybe it isn't recognized. at least my IDE-USB cable doesn't work with cdroms..
[01:08] <max__> This isn't really an ubuntu-related question, but still.
[01:08] <grinn> zsquareplusc: i think i might be able to fix this ... i may just be that stupid
[01:08] <zsquareplusc> grinn: you could make a bootable USB stick if you have one >1GB
[01:08] <max__> Is it safe to use a Xeon fan on a Core 2 Duo processor?
[01:08] <rww> max__: ask in ##hardware, not here
[01:08] <Flannel> max__: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:08] <mindrape> iLogic: you should probably go for the minimal install cd....
[01:08] <shingen> max__: depends if you like to have that new dual core on your keychain...
[01:08] <R0b0t1> Uh, my Firefox window bounced below the desktop. How might I... retrieve it?
[01:08] <TMD-Dubbed> static in left audio channel on unbuntu 8.10, any ideas? i've tried everything.
[01:09] <R0b0t1> Ah, add a desktop row.
[01:09] <max__> Shingen, it's dangerous??
[01:09] <grinn> zsquareplusc: i'm reconnecting the dvd drive -_-"
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, Offtopic
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> shingen, Please dont encourage ot
[01:09] <shingen> whoops, sorry
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:10] <sevenseeker> are dual ATI (crossfire) supported by fglrx?
[01:10] <rccu> sevenseeker: since 8.12 version, yes
[01:10] <Doonz> in grub does it have to boot off the drive based on the uuid or can i set it to /dev/sda
[01:10] <iLogic> mindrape: doesn't make any sense..
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> dooglus, /dev will work
[01:10] <sevenseeker> rccu: thank you! great to hear... how is the performance in your opinion?
[01:10] <shingen> I've seen references to 8.12, is that dev only version?
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> shingen, there should not be a point release in anything except lts releases
[01:11] <sevenseeker> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[01:11] <rww> shingen: rccu's talking about fglrx version 8.12, the current version of fglrx. Not Ubuntu :)
[01:11] <rccu> sevenseeker: umm.. it may have supported it since 8.8...
[01:12] <rccu> sevenseeker: but I have no use for crossfire :)
[01:12] <sevenseeker> rccu: really?  I am just beginning to spec out a laptop and one offers it... is it not worth it?  I need good graphics rendering for 3D models (homes, cars, etc) and photorealistic backgrounds and lighting
[01:13] <henson> whenever my laptop tries to go to sleep, i get nothing but a blinking cursor.  anyone know how to fix?
[01:13] <shingen> rww: I've seen references to 8.12 with nubuntu, which is why I asked :)
[01:13] <rww> shingen: ah. There is no Ubuntu 8.12. Next version of Ubuntu after 8.10 is 9.04.
[01:13] <Cpudan80> well
[01:13] <Cpudan80> maybe not 9.04
[01:13] <Cpudan80> but most likely 9.04
[01:13] <sevenseeker> rccu: so I really don't want to waste my dinero
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> Why is the Empty Trash button greyed out in Nautilus?
[01:14] <grinn> zsquareplusc: nope same problem
[01:14] <pablolibo> helo world
[01:14] <TMD-Dubbed> static in left audio channel on unbuntu 8.10, any ideas? i've tried everything.
[01:14] <mindrape> TMD-Dubbed: get better speakers?
[01:14] <DIFH-iceroot> onetinsoldier: because the trash is empty?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> TMD-Dubbed, alsa or pulse-audio
[01:14] <TMD-Dubbed> alsa
[01:14] <Guest82473> hy...................
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !trash
[01:15] <shingen> rww: must be just nubuntu then, making up non-standard build versions because they failed to get a 8.10 out there in time :)
[01:15] <max__> Okay, now for an ubuntu-related question.
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> DIFH-iceroot: nope. i just put 2 files into it
[01:15] <max__> How come when I try burning a CD and running firefox, things are extremely slow?
[01:15] <max__> I mean, I have Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz.
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> TMD-Dubbed, try /join #alsa
[01:15] <rww> shingen: oh, the n- wasn't a typo.... yeah, probably :)
[01:15] <TMD-Dubbed> ~ Jack_Sparrow ~ thanks
[01:15] <mindrape> max__ run top and see why.
[01:15] <max__> Things are too slow to run top.
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:15] <mindrape> moar ram?
[01:16] <max__> I have 2GB
[01:16] <rccu> sevenseeker: maybe this can help you a bit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI_CrossFire :)
[01:16] <rccu> sevenseeker: I don't really know a lot about that
[01:16] <powertool08> too slow for top? is that possible?
[01:16] <max__> Yes.
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, probably incorrect video config..
[01:16] <mindrape> powertool08: no, it's a blatant exaggeration.
[01:16] <max__> Hmm?
[01:16] <max__> But I'm running drivers properly...
[01:16] <zsquareplusc> max__: heavy IO can make your computer slow, even when the CPU is fast. also make sure it's not using to much memory and starts using swap
[01:16] <max__> glxinfo turns out find.
[01:16] <[e]Lement> I wish Amarok had an EQ
[01:16] <[e]Lement> =/
[01:16] <max__> fine*
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, HAve you changed or installed video drivers
[01:16] <khoollah> where can i get ubuntu 8.10 64 bit version and does it even exist?
[01:16] <max__> No.
[01:17] <zsquareplusc> grinn: do you have a large USB stick? you can make one of these bootable with the live cd
[01:17] <sevenseeker> rccu: works for me, its all helpful, thank you
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, what video card and have you checked with effects turned off
[01:17] <max__> 8500GT.
[01:17] <max__> Effects are completely disabled.
[01:17] <[e]Lement> khoollah, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !download
[01:17] <LetsGo67> !dvd
[01:17] <rww> khoollah: Go to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and select "64bit version" under "Custom Options"
[01:17] <rccu> !ubuntu
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> khoollah: have you tried going to www.ubuntu.com and clicking on the 'download' button?
[01:17] <max__> !god
[01:17] <max__> aw ..
[01:18] <zsquareplusc> LetsGo67: you can also /msg ubottu
[01:18] <[e]Lement> Way too much flooding of the channel.   I plan on buying one soon.
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> [e]Lement,  Then please dont add to it
[01:19] <faryshta> what file need to install to use liveUSB program?
[01:19] <[e]Lement> I didn't add to it because I commented after the flood had ended.  Thank you, tho'!
[01:19] <sevenseeker> anyone have any comments on performance of crossfire ati card setups under ubuntu?
[01:19] <khoollah> thx guys can i somehow upgrade to it without burning cd?
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> faryshta, pendrivelinux has all that info
[01:19] <max__> Jack?
[01:19] <grinn> zsquareplusc: i don't have one unfortunately
[01:20] <rww> khoollah: from a 64-bit version of Ubuntu? yes. From a 32-bit version? no.
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware > max__,
[01:20] <zsquareplusc> khoollah: bootable USB stick, network install, hdmedia installer if you have some free space on your disk
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > [e]Lement
[01:21] <pablolibo> anybody speak spanish?
[01:21] <rebel_kid> how can i change the nice of a process while its running
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[01:21] <rww> !es | pablolibo
[01:21] <pablolibo> I have a problem
[01:22] <Guillotine>  /wave. Anyone know of a way to have different background pictures on different workspaces off-hand?
[01:22] <pablolibo> ok, thanks
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Guillotine, You can , but you lose the ability to have icons on the desktop
[01:22] <rebel_kid> at nice 19 a process will use all available cpu but yield to higher nice processes correct?
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Guillotine, for more info  ask in #compiz
[01:23] <Guillotine> Jack_Sparrow: Much appreciated :)
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:23] <zsquareplusc> rebel_kid: yes. but nice'd processes wont make your cpu run fast if you have frequency switching enabled
[01:23] <max__> Jack, all the listed video cards will run flawlessly on ubuntu?
[01:23] <rebel_kid> zsquareplusc, :) thank you
[01:24] <rww> !hcl | max__
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, I can only go by what we show,  I use only nvidia here
[01:24] <blackest_knight> Jack_Sparrow kde can
[01:24] <max__> Okay, so since my card isn't listed, this means that it's a problematic card?
[01:24] <eseven73> I have an older nvidia 5200 works great in 8.04 (does not work in 8.10)
[01:24] <blackest_knight> max what chipset is it ?
[01:24] <max__> 8500GT.
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, All of the 8000 seem to have more issues
[01:25] <max__> Ah.
[01:25] <max__> It seems that only 9800GX2 is supported, though.
[01:25] <max__> I don't want to have to spend 500$ on a video card.
[01:25] <max__> :P
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, I have 6000's, 7000, 9000..  I avoided the 8's for just that reason
[01:25] <eseven73> ah why not max__ ?  :)
[01:25] <venger> what man page do i need to look at for the syntax of clauses (ie .similar to "start on stopped rc2") for use in event.d style scripts ?
[01:25] <aganthorp> I use a 9600 GT it works fine
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> max__, the 6600 work great for me
[01:26] <max__> I don't have that kind of money, eseven, that's why.
[01:26] <Guest6855> j
[01:26] <max__> the 8500GT works fine in most cases.
[01:26] <max__> Except when multi-tasking ..
[01:26] <eseven73> me either
[01:26] <aganthorp> in fact it gave me the least problems of any I have ever tried
[01:26] <dima5> I am having trouble installing drivers for my wirless internet OS Ubuntu can anyone help
[01:26] <dexi> whats the repos name for Glib 2.0 dev headers?
[01:26] <Doonz> hey is there a way to rescan for hard drives attached to the system
[01:26] <powertool08> max__: are you using hardy or ibex?
[01:26] <max__> Ibex.
[01:27] <natnayr89> hi there, i need help, i now currently use a hp mini 1000, im having trouble setting the internal 3g modem to run with ubuntu, it works fine with win32, however in ubuntu i can only use the external huawei 3g usb modem to access the internet. could someone pls help me
[01:27] <eseven73> Doonz: sudo fdisk -l
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> venger: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[01:27] <Doonz> eseven73 no to rescan
[01:27] <Doonz> oh sure now they show up
[01:27]  * Doonz hides
[01:28] <kolby> #ubuntu-dev
[01:28] <pikario> hi, im new . how do i uninstall programs that arent from the apt-get?
[01:28] <doglino> hello, linux don't support two or more programs using sound at the same time??
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> pikario: how did you install them?
[01:28] <blackest_knight> pikario usually synaptic will do it
[01:28] <grinn> zsquareplusc: it's running now ... thanks for your help
[01:28] <pikario> .bundle
[01:28] <doglino> I wanna hear music and talk in Skype
[01:28] <dima5> I am having trouble installing drivers for my wirless internet OS Ubuntu can anyone help
[01:29] <pikario> whatever .bundle is
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> doglino: yes it does. that's why we use pulseaudio
[01:29] <doglino> what is pulseaudio?
[01:29] <pikario> im trying to uninstall vmware but it's not a package anymore
[01:29] <zsquareplusc> doglino: just make sure that all applications use pulseaudio and none is accessing alsa directly
[01:29] <kolby> dima5, sounds like driver issues.  I've had similar problems
[01:29] <zelda> hay
[01:29] <powertool08> pikario: if you installed it via a script it probably has an uninstall script
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> pikario: no idea. never heard of .bundle file before
[01:30] <zsquareplusc> doglino: pulseaudio is a daemon that mixes togherther different audio sources
[01:30]  * kolby googles .bundle
[01:30] <grinn> hey how do i put pidgin as one of those quick access icons?
[01:30] <kolby> wikipedia has an interesting article on .bundle files
[01:30]  * kolby googles .bundle uninstall
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> kolby: cool, i'll have a look
[01:31] <shingen> grinn: right click and select add to panel
[01:31] <transporter> can somebody help me my speakers are not getting muted when i plug in my headset
[01:31] <dima5> I am having trouble installing drivers for my wirless internet OS Ubuntu can anyone help
[01:31] <zsquareplusc> grinn: when you hover over the icon in the menu, right click and select the appropriate action from the pop up menu
[01:31] <doglino> zsquareplusc ok, i will do that
[01:32] <zelda> poop
[01:32] <aganthorp> what type of laptop, transporter?
[01:32] <dima5> I am having trouble installing drivers for my wirless internet OS Ubuntu can anyone help
[01:32] <somethingclever> just popped in to say that Slitaz is the best livecd distro and its great to dualboot or install on a thumbdrive!
[01:32] <powertool08> pikario: what was the app again? vmware?
[01:32] <ionstorm> rgb or cmyk for photo's ?
[01:32] <pikario> vmware player
[01:32] <ionstorm> im not sure the difference, google is confusing me
[01:32] <ionstorm> heh
[01:33] <powertool08> pikario: try "sudo ./VMware.bundle -uninstall"
[01:33] <transporter> aganthorp: Lenovo Y510
[01:33] <powertool08> pikario: taken from -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=944453
[01:34] <aganthorp> transporter: what audio chipset is it using, an intel?
[01:34] <transporter> aganthorp: I know that there is a solution written on the ubuntuforums but i am unable to access that website it says page load error
[01:34] <dima5> Network Card   	Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN
[01:34] <transporter> aganthorp: could you help me as to how to check for the chipset
[01:34] <kolby> powertool08, I found the same article.  Go powertool08
[01:34] <grinn> is there an automatic network detector?
[01:34] <dima5> 802.11 b/g WLAN
[01:34] <doglino> zsquareplusc where i configure that??
[01:34] <dima5> I have ubuntu as an OS
[01:34] <pikario> i had to use gksudo sh vmplayer.bundle
[01:34] <powertool08> kolby: we must be evenly matched in our Google-fu skills :P
[01:34] <pikario> what is gksudo sh?
[01:35] <dima5> I am having trouble installing drivers for my wirless internet OS Ubuntu can anyone help
[01:35] <dima5> Network Card   	Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> pikario, gksudo sh is not advised
[01:35] <kolby> powertool08, no,no,  I;m not worthy.  Not worthy~   lol
[01:35] <dima5> 802.11 b/g WLAN
[01:35] <powertool08> pikario: sh means its running a script, gksudo means run graphically with super user privileges
[01:35] <zsquareplusc> doglino: that depends on each application. most of them have some sort of configuration where you can choose alsa/oss/pulse
[01:35] <aganthorp> transporter: aplay -l
[01:36] <dima5> HP Pavilion dv9715nr Notebook PC
[01:36] <hou5ton> I am opening the file manager gentoo with -root--ok, and it still says I don't have permission to move a particular directory??
[01:36] <doglino> do you use Rhythmbox?
[01:36] <transporter> aganthorp: ya its intel
[01:36] <doglino> zsquareplusc do you use Rhythmbox?
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton, We dont support gentoo
[01:37] <zsquareplusc> doglino: nope, but it is installed by default. it should also default to pulse audio
[01:37] <raylu> powertool08: shell, actually
[01:37] <transporter> aganthorp: this is a bit weird but it seems to be working normally now but still i would like to see what caused it
[01:37] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:   no ... I'm on ubuntu ... it's the file manager that just happens to be named gentoo
[01:37] <powertool08> raylu: ah, thanks for the correction
[01:37] <shingen> how can I turn off usplash to see the boot messages?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton, What exactly does lsb_release -a in a term tell you
[01:37] <ligeia1> I am trying to enable horizontal edge scrolling on a macbook 4.1.  My /etc/hal/fdi/policy/appletouch.fdi: http://pastebin.com/f2a5eb782 and my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/f6af44142 indicate that HorizEdgeScroll should be set to true.  However, xinput returns "Synaptics Edge Scrolling: 1, 0, 0" which indicates that horizontal scrolling is not enabled.  Indeed, horizontal scrolling does not work.  But if I do «xinput set-int-prop
[01:37] <raylu> shingen: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, take out quiet from defoptions
[01:38] <raylu> shingen: then, update-grub
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shingen, remove quiet and splash from the boot line
[01:38] <shingen> thanks
[01:38] <raylu> you can still see boot messages with splash on
[01:38] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:   No LSB modules are available.
[01:38] <hou5ton> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:38] <hou5ton> Description:	Ubuntu 8.10
[01:38] <hou5ton> Release:	8.10
[01:38] <hou5ton> Codename:	intrepid
[01:38] <FloodBot2> hou5ton: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <aganthorp> transporter: interesting I am reading some stuff on it now
[01:39] <powertool08> shingen: you can also switch to the messages on only the current boot with ctrl+f1 or ctrl+alt+f1 I forget which, then on the next boot its back to usplash
[01:39] <zsquareplusc> doglino: rythmbox probably uses the sound device set in system>prefs>audio. i have all except mixer on automatic there
[01:39] <hou5ton> Jack_Sparrow:   I want to be able to open a file manager sometimes that will let me move stuff anywhere I want
[01:39] <raylu> hou5ton: +x on a directory gives you the permission to move into int
[01:39] <aganthorp> transporter: apparently upgrading to the newest alsa fixes the problem
[01:40] <raylu> hou5ton: *it
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> hou5ton, gksudo nautilus, or gksudo thunar etc
[01:40] <transporter> aganthorp: will u help me i would really appreciate it the thread on ubuntuforums is Lenovo Y510 is GO i cannot access it though the page does not load
[01:40] <magikid> I'm not sure what happened but the other day I stopped being about to write to my NTFS drive.  Can anyone help me with this?
[01:40] <raylu> hou5ton: you should check with "ls -ld path/to/dir"
[01:40] <aganthorp> transporter: I am looking for the link to a script that will automatically upgrade your alsa for you standby
[01:41] <transporter> aganthorp: I really appreciate your help :D thankyou so very much
[01:41] <ligeia1> magikid: pastebin the output of «mount»
[01:41] <doglino> zsquareplusc ok, thanks
[01:41] <dexi> AHH dependency hell
[01:41] <dexi> ok i need something called Cairo, any help?
[01:41] <w3rd_> how do you know which version of gnome you are running
[01:41] <w3rd_> ?
[01:41] <ligeia1> dexi: you have it.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:41] <rww> w3rd_: main menu > System > About GNOME
[01:41] <w3rd_> k
[01:41] <zsquareplusc> dexi: thats a library? do you need it to compile? libcairo-dev or something like that
[01:42] <joe-coder> When I choose hibernate from guidance power manager, my machine shuts off.  when i power it back up, it loads the os up fresh.
[01:42] <w3rd_> if these icons i want use are for 2.18 is it possible to use in 2.24
[01:42] <w3rd_> ?
[01:42] <mactimes> Hi.  This is sort of a stupid question, but is there a command line option for me to provide a password for sudo in a non-interactive way?
[01:42] <dexi> well im trying to upgrade pidgin which needs glib which needs gtk which needs pango/cairo
[01:43] <ligeia1> !who | dexi
[01:43] <raylu> mactimes: you can set it to not ask for the password...
[01:43] <zsquareplusc> joe-coder: and with pm-hibernate? do you have a swap partition that is working an large enough (hibernate uses that)
[01:43] <ligeia1> dexi: Stick to the repository if you want to stay sane.  Do you have a good reason for upgrading?
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dexi, try looking at getdeb.net for a precompiled version
[01:43] <dexi> zsquareplusc: ligeia1 ^see above
[01:43] <zsquareplusc> dexi: apt-get build-dep pidgin
[01:43] <rww> mactimes: echo "passwordgoeshere" | sudo -S commandnamehere should work.
[01:44] <dexi> thanks zsquareplusc that should do it
[01:44] <rww> mactimes: though there's probably a more elegant way of doing it
[01:44] <ligeia1> mactimes: why?
[01:44] <mactimes> rww: Thank you.  I'll try that.
[01:44] <paldives> hi I am trying to make a script that will replace all of my imported file names that have spaces to underlines(_) how can I go about doing this.
[01:44] <zsquareplusc> mactimes: instead of hardcoding passwords, you can also edit sudoers so that that tool can be started without a password for a specific user
[01:45] <eseven73> paldives: 'man find'
[01:45] <ligeia1> paldives: «find» and «rename»
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> paldives, try asking in #bash for programming help
[01:45] <magikid> ligeial: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96444/
[01:45] <ligeia1> How can I make pidgin highlight lines with my nick in them?
[01:45] <dexi> :( Firealarm goin off... luckily from cooking though
[01:46] <raylu> mactimes: is MyBook the name of an external hd?
[01:46] <mactimes> ligeia1: I'm writing a program do setup applications and configs for users on a network.  I wan't to write the password once and it will produce all configuration, etc.
[01:46] <mactimes> raylu: ???
[01:46] <simplenewb> how do I play audio through my bluetooth headset? I have paired my headset and can't find what to do next.
[01:46] <raylu> woah, ignore that
[01:46] <ligeia1> mactimes: what you said doesn't really make any sense
[01:46] <raylu> magikid: is mybook the name of an external?
[01:46] <ligeia1> magikid: sdb1 is the problem?
[01:46] <magikid> ligeial: yeah
[01:47] <rww> w3rd_: should be possible, yeah
[01:47] <magikid> ligeial: yes to both questions
[01:47] <conrad_> why isnt my cd-rom showing up in the directories list in qtemu?
[01:47] <mactimes> ligeia1: Well, it may not to you.  It does a lot to me. :)
[01:47] <studente> Hello
[01:47] <raylu> mactimes: i agree; why is sudo involved?
[01:47] <ligeia1> mactimes: sounds like you are doing something the wrong way
[01:47] <mactimes> ligeia1: raylu I'll explain.
[01:48] <ligeia1> magikid: ls -ld /dev/sdb1
[01:48] <ligeia1> I am trying to enable horizontal edge scrolling on a macbook 4.1.  My /etc/hal/fdi/policy/appletouch.fdi: http://pastebin.com/f2a5eb782 and my /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/f6af44142 indicate that HorizEdgeScroll should be set to true.  However, xinput returns "Synaptics Edge Scrolling: 1, 0, 0" which indicates that horizontal scrolling is not enabled.  Indeed, horizontal scrolling does not work.  But if I do «xinput set-int-prop
[01:48] <raylu> ligeia1: that's not the ntfs partition
[01:48] <studente> I can't get my 8.04 install done on my notebook, the dvd drive is probably to much old. What can I do, do yu have any ideas?
[01:48] <ligeia1> raylu: indeed
[01:48] <magikid> ligeial: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96445/
[01:48] <ligeia1> magikid: ls -ld /media/MyBook, sorry
[01:49] <mactimes> ligeia1: I don't want to write a bunch of shell scripts.  I'll write a program which performs all tasks I need.  But it will need sudo authentication in order to install some applications.  I'll write it once to the program, it will keep the password while running in a variable and use it when needed.
[01:49] <conrad_> could anyone tell me how to boot from CD-ROM in qtemu?
[01:49] <Pasku> Hola
[01:49] <mactimes> ligeia1: Makes a bit more sense now?
[01:49] <magikid> ligeial: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96447/
[01:49] <Pasku> hay alguien que me pueda ayudar???
[01:49] <conrad_> !es | Pasku
[01:49] <Pasku> pk
[01:49] <raylu> mactimes: but you're doing these installs over a network...
[01:49] <ligeia1> mactimes: if you run the script with sudo everything inside calling sudo should be able to sudo (I think), but what scripts?
[01:50] <Pasku> ok
[01:50] <rww> mactimes: what ligeia1 said is true. Just write the script without any sudos, then do sudo scriptname.
[01:50] <raylu> ligeia1: /media/MyBook is _not_ the ntfs drive
[01:50] <mactimes> ligeia1: sudo sessions won't last much long.  I'll have to type the password again once the sudo session expires and I don't want to disable sudo either.
[01:51] <raylu> mactimes: the time can be increased and the prompt for a password can be removed
[01:51] <rww> mactimes: umm. If you run a script under sudo, the sudo session lasts for the entire time the script is running.
[01:51] <conrad_> could anyone tell me how to boot from CD-ROM in qtemu?
[01:51] <ligeia1> raylu: what is?  magikid said it was before iirc
[01:51] <magikid> raylu: yes it is
[01:52] <raylu> magikid: o.0. your external is formatted as ntfs?
[01:52] <magikid> raylu: unfortunately
[01:52] <itzhero> What IRC client do you guys use?
[01:52] <mactimes> raylu: rww If I increase the session time, the session will be open for more time than needed.
[01:52] <Cpudan80> itzhero: XCHat
[01:52] <ligeia1> magikid: you should have write permissions.  What does «touch /media/MyBook/testing_write» do?
[01:52] <spaced312> i have just installed intrepid im having problems getting the tail command to work can anyone help
[01:53] <rww> itzhero: don't take polls in this channel, please. #ubuntu is for support questions only
[01:53] <mactimes> rww: If the script takes more time than the session time, that is not true.
[01:53] <Cpudan80> itzhero: sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:53] <ligeia1> spaced312: details
[01:53] <rww> spaced312: be more specific. What problems are you having?
[01:53] <spaced312> well its not working
[01:53] <itzhero> rww: The best place to start for general help with Ubuntu or just to meet other Ubuntu users is #ubuntu or one of the many local language channels.
[01:53] <templaedhel> is it safe to use banshee with an iphone??
[01:53] <raylu> itzhero: irssi
[01:53] <itzhero> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chatirc
[01:53] <hou5ton> You know .... I guess I thought this latest version of Ubuntu would have OpenOffice 3 ???\
[01:53] <ligeia1> mactimes: we are telling you you can sudo the script itself when you run it.  But what do these scripts do exactly?
[01:53] <spaced312> the command tail myfile does nothing
[01:53] <rww> !offtopic | itzhero
[01:53] <rww> hou5ton: you thought wrong :/
[01:54] <ligeia1> hou5ton: nah, wasn't stable with the gnome stuff.  I think they are working on it though.  Check bugs.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <hou5ton> rww:   yep.
[01:54] <ligeia1> spaced312: absolutely no output?  Do you get a new prompt?  What is in "myfile"?
[01:54] <spaced312> nothing
[01:54] <rectec794613> ok i cant resize the windows partition and add a new one for install, i need some help
[01:54] <mactimes> ligeia1: Install/download apps from repos, configures network, etc.
[01:54] <spaced312> just a new line
[01:54] <spaced312> no file opens
[01:55] <ligeia1> spaced312: pastebin your terminal session
[01:55] <ligeia1> !who | spaced312
[01:55] <MikeH> Evening guys, can anyone help? I've just installed ubuntu to a second partition on a 1TB disk (first being NTFS 750GB, second being 250GB EXT3)
[01:55] <magikid> ligeial: touch: cannot touch 'testing_write': Operation not supported
[01:55] <conrad_> does anyone know anything about qtemu error 0003?
[01:55] <MikeH> However, when I try to boot I get Boot0: error.
[01:56] <ligeia1> magikid: anything interesting in 'dmesg'?
[01:56] <Benjamint> So like, I need to ask a question regarding drivers.
[01:56] <xjunior> my networkmanager applet is showing my wired connection, but as disabled and with the following message "device is not manageable"
[01:56] <MikeH> I think the ubuntu install has put grub in the wrong place, and perhaps the error message is from the previous osx bootloader that was on the drive
[01:56] <MikeH> any suggestions?
[01:56] <ligeia1> mactimes: you want to manage several machines as over the network?
[01:56] <templaedhel> ANYONE KNOW if its safe to use banshee with an iphone??
[01:57] <ligeia1> templaedhel: depends on the firmware version
[01:57] <templaedhel> its the newest one
[01:57] <magikid> ligeial: nothing that means anything to me
[01:57] <Benjamint> Will this still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB
[01:57] <templaedhel> ligeia1: got it a week ago
[01:57] <BinaryBoy001> !tab
[01:57] <rww> mactimes: What I'm saying is, write a shell script that looks something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/96452/ , then run it as sudo scriptname.sh (after chmodding it, obviously). You're saying that this will what, magically change the user the script's running under when sudo's passwordless timeout thing runs out? Because that hasn't been my experience.
[01:57] <ligeia1> templaedhel: then no since the latest itunesdb hash hasn't been reverse engineered.  Write a letter to apple
[01:57] <raylu> magikid: i'd suggest unmounting it and remounting as ntfs-3g
[01:57] <ali1234> mactimes: session time doesn't matter if you run the script with sudo. it, and any commands it runs, will have permissions until the original script (and therefore sudo) terminates
[01:58] <templaedhel> ligeia1: so I have to use itunes to get stuff onto the phone?
[01:58] <rww> templaedhel: yes
[01:58] <mactimes> ali1234: Thanks.  That will be enough then.
[01:58] <xjunior> my networkmanager applet is showing my wired connection, but as disabled and with the following message "device is not manageable"
[01:59] <magikid> raylu: would that me "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook -t ntfs-3g" ?
[01:59] <ligeia1> templaedhel: yes and no.  You can jailbreak it and then ssh into it.  You can then use the dtunes app on your phone to play your media
[01:59] <mactimes> rww, ligeia1:  Thanks.
[01:59] <raylu> magikid: yes
[01:59] <templaedhel> ligeia1: rww: well fspot the the pictures off okay
[01:59] <raylu> xjunior: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:59] <vjacob> any thinkpad x30 users here?
[01:59] <templaedhel> ligeia1: I'm not jailbreaking
[01:59] <ligeia1> templaedhel: then you have to use itunes
[01:59] <neeto> has anyone ever used swami successfully? I can't get sound output from the program, even after changing the default sound device to /dev/dsp.
[02:00] <Guest80339> I am trying to debug a series kernel panic (screen freezes, numlock and capslock blink).  I am trying to figure out how to get a stack trace or enable soft kernal panic logs but I am not sure how.  Does anyone have any tips about where I can find some information on how to debug these panics?
[02:00] <magikid> raylu: still nothing
[02:00] <templaedhel> okay thanks
[02:00] <raylu> magikid: did you umount first? nothing after what?
[02:00] <ligeia1> !debug | Guest80339
[02:00] <ligeia1> Guest80339: maybe some hints there
[02:00] <Benjamint> Will this still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB
[02:00] <natnayr89> hi there, i need help to get my hp mini 1000 connected with my 3g sim card
[02:00] <natnayr89> pls help
[02:00] <un_dave> hey all. i installed pidgin from source, and now i want to uninstall it so i can install the latest version. how can i uninstall something without the package manager ?
[02:01] <magikid> raylu: yeah, I unmounted it then issued the command.  I tried touching a file in it and it gave me the same error
[02:01] <ligeia1> un_dave: How did you install it?
[02:01] <natnayr89> un_dave: sudo apt-get [remove/uninstall i think]
[02:01] <raylu> magikid: could you show us the relevant mount line again?
[02:02] <un_dave> ligeia1: i installed it from source.
[02:02] <rww> natnayr89: doesn't work if he installed from source (i.e., not using apt-get or a .deb package)
[02:02] <ligeia1> un_dave: that's ambiguous.  Did you use 'make install'?
[02:02] <un_dave> natnayr89: isnt that only if i'd installed the package?
[02:02] <simplenewb> how do I enable individual bluetooth services?
[02:02] <ali1234> un_dave: you can try to 'make uninstall' - if that doesn't work you are pretty much out of luck
[02:02] <un_dave> ligeia1: yes, i believe so. i downloaded the source, and followed the instructions in there. i think it used make install
[02:03] <ligeia1> un_dave: you can try 'make uninstall' from the same place you ran make install then.  If that rule doesn't exist, then just use rm
[02:03] <nestor> wow ubuntu is pretty cool. I like it as much as windows but i cant play my fav mmorpg haha
[02:03] <un_dave> ali1234: where would i run make uninstall? i had the source on the desktop when i first installed, but i think i deleted the folder ages ago
[02:04] <ali1234> un_dave: you'll have to get the source code again, and rerun configure
[02:04] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB
[02:04] <magikid> raylu: sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/96459/
[02:04] <templaedhel> does itunes work with wine?
[02:04] <raylu> magikid: if it's just one line, you can just paste it here :D
[02:04] <pikario> does ubuntu have anything similar to the registry in windows?
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: hello
[02:04] <raylu> magikid: i don't think you mounted it correctly
[02:04] <bcpebert> I am trying to install a science related software program for which the installer requires that I have
[02:04] <ligeia1> nestor: you sure?  What is it?
[02:04] <un_dave> ali1234: ok, so i find the source for v2.5.1, reinstall, and then uninstall!
[02:05] <nestor> hey itunes kid get songbird
[02:05] <rww> templaedhel: you can check that on http://appdb.winehq.org/
[02:05] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: hello :)
[02:05] <magikid> raylu: here's my fstab line: /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook ntfs-3g user,auto 0 0
[02:05] <ligeia1> templaedhel: didn't work to sync my ipod touch last time i tried
[02:05] <nestor> it has ipod support its awesome
[02:05] <natnayr89> hi there, i need help to get my hp mini 1000 connected with my 3g sim card with the internal sim card reader
[02:05] <ligeia1> pikario: not really, why?
[02:05] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: from now on, i recommend you use 'checkinstall' to install from source. it makes a .deb for you
[02:05] <pikario> just curious
[02:05] <raylu> magikid: o.0... you probably should have mentioned that earlier
[02:05] <raylu> magikid: umount /dev/sdb1 && mount -a
[02:05] <Azazel-AZ> Hello.  Installed 8.10 64 Bit, everytime I run pidgin and set up my accounts, they are not there next time I reload pidgin
[02:05] <ali1234> un_dave: you dont need to install or compile it, you just need to rerun the './configure' step to regenerate the makefile and then 'make uninstall'
[02:06] <raylu> magikid: -a will mount it according to your fstab line, which already says it's ntfs-3g
[02:06] <rww> pikario: linux uses dotfiles in your home directory to store configuration stuff, not a centralized registry
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: you do have one choice to get it cleanly uninstalled right now.. want to hear it?
[02:06] <raylu> magikid: the output of mount you just showed me says that it's not currently mounted as ntfs-3g
[02:06] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: sure
[02:06] <Azazel-AZ> any thoughts or help with pidgin?
[02:07] <ali1234> un_dave: if the programmers were lazy there might not be an uninstall rule in the makefile though, in which case... the easiest way would be to run './configure --prefix=/tmp/somedir; make; make install' and then look at what ended up in /tmp/somedir and delete those files manually (they will be in /usr/local by default)
[02:07] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: run pidgin in a terminal
[02:07] <nibsa1242b> tracker says "Can not connect to search services". How do I fix?
[02:07] <magikid> I issued the mount command again and the filesystem is still saying fuseblk
[02:07] <jepong> there's a new version of pidgin right?
[02:07] <pikario> can someone tell me what the /usr/lib directory is for in a nutshell?
[02:07] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: i just run checkinstall in the folder of the source, and it'll make me a .deb?
[02:07] <raylu> jepong: that was a terrible question
[02:07] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB
[02:08] <un_dave> ali1234: i'll hope they have the uninstall thingi :)
[02:08] <jepong> i just saw it over ubuntugeek.com
[02:08] <raylu> magikid: hrm. unmount it and remount it with "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook
[02:08] <ligeia1> un_dave, ali1234: well even easier is to reinstall it using checkinstall and then uninstalling using APT if the make uninstall rule doesn't exist
[02:08] <doglino> zsquareplusc I did solve the problem.
[02:08] <nibsa1242b> can I safely remove beagle from my system?
[02:08] <raylu> magikid: oh, wait
[02:08] <ligeia1> !fhs | pikario
[02:08] <raylu> mgolisch: before remounting, remove/comment out the fstab line
[02:08] <Azazel-AZ> raylu, I added account, so far nothing out to stderr
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: since you did not use checkinstall, tis is what you'd do. ok. you download the source tarball again if you no longer have it. then you unpack it and run the ./configure script again. at that point, you can run 'make uninstall'
[02:09] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: and if i have a .deb file, i wont have to keep the source folder hanging around? i'll just be able to use the package manager? because that'd be ideal in future
[02:09] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: about to do that nowq
[02:09] <grinn> can anyone help me set up my wireless?
[02:09] <Azazel-AZ> It connected and I quite, and no errors to stderr or stdio
[02:09] <Azazel-AZ> reload and no accounts
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: correct, you wouldn't have to keep the source folder around if you use checkinstall
[02:09] <rww> nibsa1242b: yes
[02:09] <ligeia1> grinn: you need to give enough details for someone to know
[02:09] <bcpebert> I am trying to install a science related software program for which the installer requires that I have csh installed in Ubuntu, rather than bash which is the default UNIX shell scripting program. I used apt-get to install csh, but when I run the installer, it defaults to bash and the install aborts. How do I get csh recognized as the default scripting environment?
[02:10] <pikario> !vmware > pikario
[02:10] <ligeia1> bcpebert: what are you installing?
[02:10] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB
[02:10] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: do you have a .purple folder in your home directory?
[02:10] <grinn> i'm trying to set up my wireless connection from my laptop and i don't know how to find my ssid
[02:10] <rww> bcpebert: if the installer is a shell script, open it up in an editor and change the first line to use csh\ from whatever it is
[02:10] <s0ber> hi
[02:10] <ligeia1> grinn: it's the name you gave your network on your router
[02:10] <raylu> bcpebert: neither csh nor bash are "scripting environments"
[02:10] <Azazel-AZ> Just found it.  Pidgin is ~/.purple but root:root I will chmod it now, yikes that's a bug
[02:11] <hieu> hi
[02:11] <bcpebert> pathway tools for automatically calling biochemical pathways from genome data. It is written mostly in Lisp.
[02:11] <Azazel-AZ> sorry chown
[02:11] <s0ber> what is the default mail server of 8.10 Ibex?
[02:11] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: no it's not :P
[02:11] <ligeia1> bcpebert: try just running 'csh' and then calling the installer
[02:11] <s0ber> postfix?
[02:11] <simpleos> how do you use seccomp ?
[02:11] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: most likely, you ran pidgin with sudo
[02:11] <w3rd_> how do you change what icons are diplayed on the desktop?
[02:11] <ligeia1> w3rd_: like what exactly?
[02:11] <raylu> !desktop
[02:11] <Azazel-AZ> nope.  I installed w/ sudo lmao, who knows.
[02:12] <simpleos> i compiled it into the kernel, but i do not see anything in /proc
[02:12] <raylu> er...
[02:12] <raylu> !icons
[02:12] <SilverBullet> ora viva
[02:12] <bcpebert> Thanks
[02:12] <w3rd_> well what if you dont want the icons to be visible at all
[02:12] <Azazel-AZ> I'm surprised no output to stderr about permissions
[02:12] <grinn> ligeia1: it was set up by geek squad
[02:12] <ligeia1> w3rd_: see the !icons factoid ubottu said
[02:12] <kevin_> ok bye where
[02:12] <w3rd_> k
[02:12] <SilverBullet> quem aqui quer vir dar uma ajudinha para a secçao de gnu linux do pplware?
[02:12] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:12] <kevin_> Good night
[02:12] <kevin_> xD
[02:12] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: will i need to do 'sudo make uninstall' ?
[02:12] <hieu> :D
[02:12] <ligeia1> !pt | SilverBullet
[02:13] <raylu> magikid: oops.
[02:13] <ligeia1> grinn: well you should get a list of networks available if you click on the network icon in your notification area
[02:13] <raylu> magikid: before remounting, remove/comment out the fstab line
[02:13] <simpleos> would someone please help?
[02:13] <raylu> magikid: (in case you didn't see that message from earlier. i tab-completed the wrong name again)
[02:13] <s0ber> hi~~~~~~~~~what is the default MTA of 8.10 Ibex? postfix?
[02:13] <mdg> simpleos, what was your question?
[02:13] <ligeia1> simpleos: only if you ask the room a question
[02:13] <Azazel-AZ> raylu: before dropping in here I ran sudo aptiget autoremove --purge pidgin and re-installed it.
[02:14] <ligeia1> s0ber: there isn't a default MTA on 8.10 desktop
[02:14] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: that doens't touch ~/.purple, though
[02:14] <mdg> sober, you having trouble with smtp too?
[02:14] <simpleos> how do you use the kernel config_seccomp option? It's compiled in to my custom kernel.
[02:14] <grinn> ligeia1: i'm not getting anything like that
[02:14] <Azazel-AZ> I know I have no idea how the permission got messed up
[02:14] <simpleos> but i cant see it in /proc
[02:14] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: never mind. i did sudo, and it seems to have worked.
[02:14] <magikid> raylu: and issue the "mount -a" command?
[02:14] <ligeia1> grinn: what version of ubuntu?
[02:14] <raylu> magikid: no. -a mounts from your fstab :D
[02:14] <s0ber> ligeia1, i use 8.10.server.iso
[02:15] <raylu> magikid: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook
[02:15] <magikid> raylu: gotcha
[02:15] <un_dave> ok, so now i have my fresh source for the latest version. and i want to make a package to install it.
[02:15] <grinn> 1.10.2
[02:15] <venger> i'd like to send a couple debug messages to daemon.log is there a facility perhaps similar to /lib/lsb/init-functions to do this?
[02:15] <ligeia1> s0ber: then check if there is one installed?  It's probably postfix or exim
[02:15] <grinn> ligeia1: 1.10.2
[02:15] <un_dave> do i just run checkinstall in the source folder, or are there some commands i need to run first ?
[02:15] <Azazel-AZ> Ok looks fixed, chown did the trick.
[02:16] <dgar1> venger: man logger
[02:16] <magikid> raylu: touch still gives me operation not permitted
[02:16] <simpleos> Now would someone please help?
[02:16] <Azazel-AZ> been running pidgin since feisty never had that prob before
[02:16] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !kernel
[02:16] <ligeia1> grinn: there's no such version
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> simplenewb, Please read the above note
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: ok, cool
[02:16] <gaintsura> how can I mount or convert a uif cd image
[02:16] <raylu> magikid: paste the relevant mount line here, please
[02:17] <nibsa1242b> tracker says "Can not connect to search services". How do I fix?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !iso
[02:17] <s0ber> ligeia1, what would be they ay to check u suggest?
[02:17] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: so i'm in the new source folde3r now. how do i get checkinstall to work ?
[02:17] <magikid> raylu: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/MyBook
[02:17] <simpleos> errrr... I COMPILED MY KERNEL WITH THE OPTION IN!
[02:17] <grinn> ligeia1: sorry 8.10 "intrepid ibex"
[02:17] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: do i just run ./configure then checkinstall ?
[02:17] <ligeia1> grinn: you don't have a network icon in the notification area?
[02:17] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:18] <ligeia1> s0ber: apt-cache policy exim postfix
[02:18] <jradical> happy new year! can someone help me on installation of ubuntu 8.10 on vostro 1400 dell laptop?
[02:18] <simpleos> I KNOW what a kernel is! and insulting me doesn't help!!!
[02:18] <s0ber> ligeia1, $which postfix? $which exim?
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps > simpleos
[02:18] <MikeH> Can anyone help me reconfigure grub?
[02:18] <ligeia1> s0ber: that would work too
[02:18] <s0ber> ligeia1, ok
[02:18] <MikeH> I need to set the active partition for a disk, and then reinstall grub to that
[02:18] <magikid> raylu: I copy and pasted exactly what you wrote
[02:18] <grinn> ligeia1: is that the 2 monitors with an alert in front of them?
[02:18] <SJrX> I have a hard disk that is having problems staying powered on, what can I do in Linux to keep stuff copying off of it?
[02:18] <raylu> MikeH: grub isn't installed to partitions
[02:18] <ligeia1> grinn: yeah
[02:19] <raylu> magikid: er, by "the relevant mount line" i meant the output of "mount" with /dev/sdb1 in it
[02:19] <jradical> i keep getting error on installation... something about an input/output error thing which i'm not familiar with, can someone help?
[02:19] <magikid> raylu: ah, sorry
[02:19] <fxhp> I just deleted my top panel... is there anyway to get it back?
[02:19] <grinn> ligeia1: it wants me to set up a vpn?
[02:19] <MikeH> raylu: Ok, well, the issue I'm having is that I attempted to install osx earlier, and since re-partitioned the drive and installed ubuntu - now it would seem that I'm still getting the osx bootloader ("Boot0: error")
[02:20] <rww> fxhp: do you still have your bottom panel? if so, right-click it and click New Panel
[02:20] <raylu> !grub | MikeH
[02:20] <Azazel-AZ> raylu:  yikes a good bit of my home directory sub folders are all root:root
[02:20] <risix> happy newyear for tommorow to all
[02:20] <fxhp> rww: OMG all the settings are gone...
[02:20] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:20] <raylu> MikeH: restoregrub should be sufficient, though i'm not so sure how you installed osx or if there are any quirks
[02:20] <magikid> raylu: /dev/sdb1 on /media/MyBook type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=512)
[02:20] <evowill> Hello, I have an issue where when I start programs fullscreen, the mouse doesn't go away, it just stays in the middle,  I have this problem with Performous, OpenArena, and Assault Cube, running 8.10
[02:20] <ehama> Hi. I have Windows and Ubuntu on same disk. I have problems with Windows so I want to reinstall. I had backuped the mbr using dd  command but couldn't restore within Windows. What is the best way to do it?
[02:20] <rww> fxhp: ... yeah, that'd happen if you deleted them
[02:21] <ligeia1> grinn: nothing above that?
[02:21] <Azazel-AZ> sudo chown -R me:me * these is weird
[02:21] <MikeH> raylu: I'll give it a go, but it seems odd that the installer didn't install grub properly in the first place.
[02:21] <rww> !grub | ehama: see second link
[02:21] <raylu> magikid: then i have no idea why it insists to mount as fuseblk
[02:21] <rww> ehama: erm, first link, that is
[02:21] <ehama> rww, ok thanks. I'm looking.
[02:21] <raylu> MikeH: how many hard drives do you have?
[02:22] <magikid> raylu: ok.  well thank you for all your help.  I'll keep playing with it and wading through man pages
[02:22] <grinn> ligeia1: no it's darkened out
[02:22] <ligeia1> raylu, magikid: wasn't paying attention, but you did '-t ntfs' instead of '-t ntfs-3g'?
[02:22] <raylu> ligeia1: regardless, it mounted as fuseblk :P
[02:22] <ligeia1> grinn: ok.  What machine is this again?  What wireless card do you have?
[02:22] <un_dave> could someone confirm that this is still basically the right way to create a .deb from source, and install from the .deb http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2356.html ? thanks.
[02:23] <racarter> some usb device has been mounted to /media/something.. just cause i'm curious how do i find out what device is mounted there?
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging
[02:23] <magikid> ligeial: nope, although I just tried it to see if it would help, no dice
[02:23] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions? : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:23] <raylu> racarter: mount
[02:23] <Benjamint> of ubuntu that is
[02:23] <risix> sudo aptitude clean
[02:23] <ligeia1> un_dave: checkinstall is not the *right* way.  It's just ok to make personal debs for the lazy
[02:23] <MikeH> raylu: I think I've cracked it - instead of doing setup hd0, as ubuntu seems to have done (which I'm actually worried has broken my raid array :( )
[02:23] <risix> part
[02:24] <magikid> ligeia1: thanks for all your help too
[02:24] <MikeH> I did setup on the drive I installed to (and that I'm booting from)
[02:24] <un_dave> ligeia1:  :( what are the disadvantages?
[02:24] <MikeH> Ubuntu seems to be loading now :)
[02:24] <racarter> raylu, i did mount /media/something which tells me it is already mounted to somewhere... but this feels like a hack.. is this the only way to know where something is mounted?
[02:24] <Benjamint> Will this driver and install method still work with the latest versions of Ubuntu? I need to try and get this aincent wireless card working... : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/BuffaloWLIL11GUSB >>;
[02:24] <ligeia1> un_dave: they don't conform to debian policy and build-deps are not setup correctly I guess
[02:25] <ligeia1> !packaging | un_dave
[02:25] <raylu> racarter: er, type "mount" by itself
[02:25] <evowill> So it seems that whatever is common between Performous, OpenArena, and AssaultCube is having a problem
[02:25] <raylu> racarter: or "mount -l"
[02:25] <dgar1> racarter: df -hT
[02:25] <racarter> thanks!
[02:25] <neeto> if a program asks for your default audio device, is it most likely calling for /dev/dsp or the name of the card (CA0106 in my case)? or something else entirely?
[02:25] <un_dave> ligeia1: ok. will read
[02:25] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: hello
[02:25] <nibsa1242b> tracker says "Can not connect to search services". How do I fix?
[02:25] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: sorry i was away for a bit there
[02:26] <grinn> ligeia1: this is the computer i bought http://www.amazon.com/Acer-8-9-Inch-Netbook-Processor-Battery/dp/tech-data/B001FBW1NC/ref=de_a_smtd
[02:26] <Benjamint> Okay, first question. Are there any Ubuntu drivers for the WLI-USB-L11G network card?
[02:26] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: no worries. so am i on the right track ?
[02:27] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: yeah... you compile, then you use check install like so...   sudo checkinstall make install
[02:27] <Azazel-AZ> Confussed, why is sudo chown -R me:me .* changing other home folders permissions?
[02:28] <Azazel-AZ> never mind .* == .. ugh
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: or if that doesn't work quite right, then use   sudo -i   instead, and then run checkinstall make install
[02:28] <ligeia1> grinn: don't know anything about it.  The first thing you need to do is make sure the wireless card is recognized.  Check if you have anything in System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers to install.  If not, just google "Acer Aspire One Ubuntu Intrepid" and see what comes up.  Ask here before doing anything that you don't understand of course.  I must go now though (I don't know anything about that specific computer anyway)
[02:28] <badfish69> can anyone else not burn with brasero in intrepid?
[02:28] <shingen> does anyone know if /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs will take my initramfs-tools changes and let me use them? :)
[02:28] <pretender> I have installed Sun virtualbox via a deb file how do i un install it so i can install the version that supports USB.  I'm running Ubuntu 8.10
[02:28] <ligeia1> grinn: add "wireless" to the google search terms :)
[02:28] <raylu> Azazel-AZ: if you're in your home folder, "." with -R should be fine
[02:28] <ligeia1> pretender: use APT...
[02:29] <grinn> ligeia1: thanks for all your help
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> pretender: dpkg --purge <package_name>
[02:29] <ligeia1> !apt | pretender
[02:29] <nibsa1242b> tracker says "Can not connect to search services". How do I fix?
[02:29] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: ok. so ./configure first. then 'sudo checkinstall make install'
[02:29] <pretender> thanks for the quick reply
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: yes
[02:30] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: oh wait.. leaving something out.
[02:30] <fxhp> I lost my sound this happens after every upgrade
[02:30] <fxhp> Any help?>
[02:30] <Azazel-AZ> not as root it changes . and .. with .* but with * instead of .* it doesn't change the hidden floders ownership
[02:30] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: ok. just trying to work out why pidgin wants me to disable network manager...
[02:30] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: run the configure script(./configure), then...  make
[02:31] <MikeH> Doeds kubuntu-desktop in 8.10 use kde4?
[02:31] <MikeH> *does
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: you have to run 'make' to compile the thing first.. lol
[02:31] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: yup :) i guessed that.
[02:31] <rww> MikeH: yes
[02:31] <jfk_samooookaaaa> Herro!
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: ok
[02:31] <gobolin> goodmoning
[02:31] <MikeH> gah
[02:31] <jfk_samooookaaaa> I'm an Ubuntu pervert!
[02:32] <MikeH> What is ubuntu studio? And how do I get rid of it in favour of standard ubuntu stuff?
[02:32] <Azazel-AZ> $ chown -ARE me:me .*
[02:32] <Azazel-AZ> chown: changing owership of `../otherguy': Operation not permitted
[02:33] <Azazel-AZ> intresting
[02:33] <rww> !ubuntu studio | MikeH
[02:33] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: apparently i need this package network-manager-dev
[02:33] <tons2000> where is the firefox/mozilla plugin directory on 8.10 with ff3?
[02:33] <eseven73> Azazel-AZ: put sudo before that
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: oh? hmmm
[02:33] <MikeH> rww: So how do I get the normal gnome desktop? I've tried installing gnome-desktop and changing the default session, to no avail
[02:33] <Azazel-AZ> I don't want to change those, that was the mistake a second ago.
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: so, install it
[02:34] <Out_Cold> MikeH, what is it that you get now?
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: apt-get install network-manager-dev
[02:34] <Out_Cold> *as a DE
[02:34] <jradical> Err 5 on ubuntu 8.10 installation help! I can't install ubuntu on my dell vostro 1400 dual-boot with XP
[02:34] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: yup. now configure works without any exceptions :D i always just disabled the network manager support. :) it's 'make'ing now
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: ok, coolio
[02:34] <Azazel-AZ> I can fix this, but who owns lost+found?  there is no lost+found on the hardy machine I'm using to debug this ibex one
[02:34] <MikeH> Out_Cold: Studio branded boost splash, login splash and wallpaper, gnome is black colour scheme and missing bottom taskbar
[02:35] <MikeH> Out_Cold: Whilst it's all configuration stuff, I'd prefer to have it default
[02:35] <Out_Cold> yea.. i didn't know that there was a straight 'studio' install....
[02:35] <rww> Azazel-AZ: on my machine, lost+found is owned by root:root
[02:35] <shingen> anyone have experience with making a new initramfs ?
[02:36] <MikeH> well the mini iso said it was required
[02:36] <MikeH> so I installed it
[02:36] <MikeH> :/
[02:36] <Azazel-AZ> thanks, that was my guess, but ask twice screw it up once
[02:36] <Out_Cold> back up and install ubuntu 8.10 or 8.04 and then install the studio if you want
[02:36] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: hey, just a random question. if i have this compiling in a terminal on the desktop, and i close the terminal window, will the command finish executing? or will it be terminated?
[02:36] <mdg> MikeH, what did you install the mini iso on?
[02:36] <tons2000> Out_Cold - i don't think there is anymore....
[02:36] <tons2000> un_dave - terminated
[02:36] <rww> un_dave: terminated, usually
[02:36] <tons2000> un_dave - that's why screen is awesome ;)
[02:36] <Out_Cold> any more what tons2000
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: that would terminate it unless you want to use job control to put it into the background
[02:36] <MikeH> mdg: What do you mean? I burnt it to a dvd (only thing available), and installed it to a spare partition?
[02:36] <tons2000> Out_Cold - ubuntu studio started out as a separate install
[02:37] <un_dave> ok, cool thats what i thought.
[02:37] <Azazel-AZ> sudo -s
[02:37] <mdg> I meant what kind of computer, sorry
[02:37] <Azazel-AZ> su otherguy and then I can fix his permissions.
[02:37] <tons2000> [was feisty based iirc]
[02:37] <MikeH> x86, Core2Quad intel thing.
[02:37] <un_dave> i havent used screen for a long time. but i remember it being cool :)
[02:37] <Out_Cold> oh.. yea lol...
[02:37] <tallmtt_> Anyone successful using synce?
[02:37] <Doonz> Dec 29 07:43:28 sserver1 sudo:     root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=server ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/use_http_proxy
[02:37] <Doonz> Dec 29 07:43:29 sserver1 sudo:     root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=server ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/host
[02:37] <Doonz> Dec 29 07:43:29 sserver1 sudo:     root : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=server ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/gconftool --get /system/http_proxy/port
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> un_dave: ctrl+z  will put it into the background.. but in a 'stopped' state. after ctrl+z you have to type in 'bg' and then press Enter
[02:38] <tallmtt_> I just tried to install synce in Ubuntu Hardy without success :( I mean, it installed and connected to my device, but did not sync
[02:38] <mdg> Is there a CLI program to access MP3 players?
[02:39] <tons2000> mdg - mount ?
[02:39] <tons2000> where is the firefox/mozilla plugin directory on 8.10 with ff3?
[02:40] <mdg> tons2000: will that work with microsoft formatted devcie?
[02:40] <enfefi> I need help! I deleted some bluetooth applications and deleted also their settings files. I reinstalled them but the settings files were not created. I don know how to create those files again
[02:40] <shingen> tons2000: ~./mozilla/firefox3
[02:40] <evowill> mdg: you can just browse it with nautilus, and some players can/should be switched to UMS mode for best compatibility
[02:40] <tons2000> mdg - sure, you might need to use -t vfat
[02:40] <kolby> I'm having wireless issues.  When I ping anything except <IP_ADDRESS> I get an error message that infroms me I have unsufficient persmissions.  (I tried sudo piong too)
[02:40] <tons2000> shingen - i don't see a plugin folder
[02:40] <kolby> s/infroms/sinforms
[02:40] <mdg> nautilius = CLI???
[02:40] <evowill> mdg: nautilus = your file browser
[02:41] <shingen> tons2000: oh, plugins, not extensions... nevermind
[02:41] <UbunUbun> Hi
[02:41] <simpleos> A commentary for those being in the channel for 10+ minutes: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/96477/
[02:41] <albech> im having some graphical issues with my nvidia drivers in 8.10. The top bar of windows disappear somewhat when the window lose focus.
[02:41] <Bit_Breaker> hello all
[02:41] <MikeH> hrm
[02:41] <Doonz> Guys i need a security expert to go over log files with me because i beleive my box may have been rooted
[02:41] <simpleos> Doonz: I'll help
[02:41] <mdg> I'm in a CLI environment
[02:41] <n8tuser> kolby - shouldnt be, a regular user can use ping
[02:41] <Doonz> simpleos can we go private
[02:41] <MikeH> Is there any easy way to test boot windows from the grub command line? So I can figure out which device I need to boot windows from for menu.lst
[02:42] <simpleos> OK. You start.
[02:42] <Azazel-AZ> had to kil lother account remove home directory versus changing permissions for each hidden folder one at a time
[02:42] <Azazel-AZ> chown .* bad
[02:42] <MikeH> Windows being on a raid array, I'm not sure how grub will assign it.
[02:43] <venger> Azazel-AZ, find <somehomedir> -exec chown them:theirgroup {} \; will work
[02:43] <un_dave> onetinsoldier: it failed to create the package :( some file errors?
[02:44] <un_dave> shoudl i just see if maike install works ?
[02:44] <Azazel-AZ> thanks, I'll ut it in my notebook.  I can't belief chown will accend into parent directories
[02:45] <Ketzu> Is Wireless N supported by Ubuntu yet?
[02:45] <venger> Azazel-AZ, its the shells fault really, shell expansion i think z or c shell actually avoids this behavior
[02:46] <marcelo> Hi
[02:47] <Bit_Breaker> Does anyone use hfsplus for ubuntu?
[02:47] <marcelo> hi i am Marcelo
[02:47] <Bit_Breaker> hi marcelo
[02:47] <marcelo> hi
[02:48] <Azazel-AZ> venger: file bug report with gnu core-utils or ubuntu?
[02:48] <Azazel-AZ> chown needs a '..' filter in the program
[02:48] <marcelo> sorry
[02:48] <bobbie4> I luv ubuntu
[02:48] <evowill> Ketzu: yes
[02:49] <Guest24923> how is the command to change of channel please?
[02:49] <rww> Guest24923: /join #channelname
[02:49] <Guest24923> thanks
[02:49] <ensi> can anyone tell me why this is not working, im trying to get alt+p to output pipe
[02:49] <MikeH> There must be a way to "list" the hd's grub can see?
[02:49] <ensi> keycode 33 = p P 0x7c 0x7c 0x7c
[02:49] <Azazel-AZ> then /part #oldchannelname
[02:49] <MikeH> I need to find the hd/partition that it see's my raid array as
[02:49] <ensi> xmodmap -e "keycode 33 = p P 0x7c 0x7c 0x7c"
[02:50] <Skrimmypoo> from the chown man page:
[02:50] <Skrimmypoo>   -R, --recursive
[02:50] <Skrimmypoo>               operate on files and directories recursively
[02:50] <ehama> I'm having problems with my wireless connection. Some websites start loading but doesn't load at all. Can it be anything related with the drivers?
[02:50] <Bit_Breaker> is there support for HFS+ volumes in Ubuntu?
[02:51] <bazhang> !info hfsplus | Bit_Breaker
[02:52] <Azazel-AZ> Skrimmypoo: but the hidden folders in the home directory were assigned to root so of course chown -R me:me * but that changed all but hidden and sudo chown -R me:me .* changed the parents and children it ascended and desended at the same time into from /home/me to /home and /home/otherpeople as well as .purple and .xorg etc
[02:52] <rodolfo> Firefox keeps eating up my processor! It seems that it happens randomly and all I gotta do is download a new browser like flock at getdeb.net. There is the .deb installer to DL but the question here is: how to uninstall a program installed manually?
[02:52] <bobbie4> Hey, I somehow boned something up. I've got an acer aspire one, I wanted to leave the Linpus on the internal SSD but install Ubuntu 8.10 on an external USB HDD. The install went okay, except for the fact that I can't boot from either the external drive or the internal drive. Keeps reporting a Grub 2 error. Any ideas?
[02:53] <wikki> fodolfo, a manually installed deb?
[02:53] <rodolfo> wikki, yeah
[02:53] <wikki> use dpkg
[02:53] <evowill> rodolfo: If you installed a .deb, you can use dpkg
[02:53] <dgar1> rodolfo: dpkg --remove the_package_name
[02:53] <wikki> I have that same problem rodolfo
[02:53] <wikki> with firefox
[02:53] <rodolfo> wikki evowill dgarl, what is this command for?
[02:54] <wikki> dpkg is the debian package manager
[02:54] <rodolfo> wikki, so fr is there a workaround from mozilla?
[02:54] <rodolfo> so far*
[02:54] <wikki> I don't know of one
[02:54] <wikki> mine seems to do it with flash sites
[02:55] <wikki> but not flash
[02:55] <rodolfo> wikki, here is the same but they should be aware of this issue by now
[02:55] <_cb> I have a mail list with 27 people but looks as if Evolution only sent the mail to the first 16. Is there a limit on the mailing lists?
[02:55] <wikki> I have done some googling and haven't been able to find a solution
[02:56] <wikki> I just reinstalled my whole box and ti's still happening
[02:56] <wikki> my system also isn't seeing all 4gb of my memory
[02:56] <wikki> on 64 bit
[02:56] <eseven73> !enter
[02:56] <wikki> anyone know why that might happen?
[02:56] <rodolfo> the weird part is when you run a .flv file through totem media player, it doesn't require too much power processor  but viewing a flash movie @ youtube burns my processor...
[02:56] <rww> !enter | wikki
[02:56] <wikki> sorry
[02:56] <zsquareplusc> _cb: or your ISP's mail server has a limit. if you regularly write to many people, you could set up a proper mailing list
[02:56] <Ketzu> evowill: Is there a list of supported cards/laptops perchance?
[02:56] <nogagplz> rodolfo: agreed, youtube embedded videos on my pentium 3 kills it
[02:57] <wikki> pentium 3!, time to upgrade
[02:57] <rodolfo> sadly I have experienced this issue since 7.10
[02:57] <_cb> zsquareplusc don't think it is ISP that list used to work out of Outlook. What do you mean by proper mailing list?
[02:57] <Guest23955> wikki, used for intergrated graphics?
[02:57] <rodolfo> and I don't know whose fault it is...mozilla, adobe or they both...?
[02:58] <eseven73> rodolfo: more likely its a Flash issue
[02:58] <wikki> I don't think so guest, my 1 gb worked fine, it looks like it's hitting the 3.2 gb 32 bit limit
[02:59] <wikki> eseven73: I think it's a flash issue too, but i'm still not sure what to do
[02:59] <AltiusBimm> greetings, there seems to be a bit of a logic error in 9.04 alpha 2 that keeps the liveCD login in an infinite loop. I should be able to work around it if someone knows the default users "ubuntu" password
[02:59] <zsquareplusc> _cb: a mailing list is a service where many people can subscribe. but you sent mails to only one address and all subscribers get a copy. mailman is such a server but there are also free services where you don't need your own server
[02:59] <rodolfo> eseven73 then maybe using another Flach media player can get this solved. is Gnash mature enough to do the job?
[02:59] <dsdeiz> oh, so to hide files you need to put 'dot' at  the beginning?
[02:59] <Guest23955> wikki, do u get same problem from 64 bit live cd?
[02:59] <bazhang> AltiusBimm, #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion
[02:59] <Bit_Breaker> lol@ dot at the begging
[02:59] <wikki> yes Guest23955
[02:59] <rww> dsdeiz: putting a dot in front of the name tells your file manager that it's a system file, so it doesn't show it by default. they're not very well hidden :)
[03:00] <_cb> zsquareplusc thanks. Don't write often enough to warrant that. Just trying to set up pickup soccer games with friends
[03:00] <Guest23955> wikki, if it happens in multiple different versions then thats not a software problem
[03:00] <eseven73> rodolfo: flash issues can be complicated and above my expertise, you'll have to just keep asking like every 5 mins or so. :)
[03:00] <ensi> useless
[03:00] <Guest23955> like multiple diff ubuntu versions or distros
[03:01] <wikki> all 4gb shows up in the bios
[03:01] <evowill> Ketzu: message sent
[03:02] <Guest23955> wikki, video isnt used in bios tho so it must used for video...do u have an intergrated video card?
[03:02] <wikki> yes, but I'm pretty sure it has it's own memory
[03:03] <rodolfo> dgar1: the 'dpkg --remove the_package_name' command is supposed to be used using the terminal browsing the location where the app is installed or this is not necessary?
[03:03] <Guest23955> wikki, is it a laptop?
[03:03] <wikki> no
[03:03] <Guest23955> wikki, u have mobo's details?
[03:03] <dgar1> rodolfo: correct
[03:03] <evowill> rodolfo: not necessary to be in the directory
[03:03] <dummyhead3> gs
[03:04] <wikki> yeah, hang on a sec and i'll get it
[03:04] <Guest23955> wikki, k
[03:05] <natnayr89> hi, does anyone here have a hp mini 1000, need help configuring igrantt
[03:05] <AltiusBimm> bazhang: thanks, i think it would be the same password in most any version since the liveCD-installer feature was implemented though ;P
[03:06] <rodolfo> thanks you all for the info guys! keep up this good job and have a happy new year! c ya
[03:06] <eseven73> how do i send irssi in the background? i need to restart x but dont wanna restart irssi, or would i loose it even if sending it to the background if i restart X? *kicks self for not using screen*
[03:06] <MikeH> erm
[03:07] <damo22> does anyone know anything about raid?  i installed 2 hdds as a mirrored raid using a raid controller built into a motherboard.. now the motherboard died and i need to get access to my old files... how do i do that?
[03:07] <MikeH> Where is X config in 8.10?
[03:07] <MikeH> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty?
[03:07] <caca> hai
[03:07] <caca> caca,you
[03:07] <waxhead_> eseven73: is irssi a console app?
[03:07] <eseven73> yes
[03:08] <eseven73> terminal irc client :)
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: i have some instructions that should make a full file
[03:08] <Bit_Breaker> thanks shirmmypoo
[03:08] <waxhead_> eseven73: ps aux | grep irssi  and make a note of the pid
[03:08] <caca> aim not englis.indonesia
[03:08] <waxhead_> eseven73: then bg <pid>
[03:08] <MikeH> onetinsoldier: it's ok, atichecker seems to have filled it.
[03:08]  * MikeH tests
[03:08] <Bob24> hello
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: okie
[03:08] <waxhead_> do what you need to and then fg <pid> when you are ready
[03:08] <Bob24> for some reason all my videos on my mythbuntu installation are out of sync when i play them. What could be causing this?
[03:09] <caca> hello bob 24
[03:09] <eseven73> waxhead_: ok how to get it back after i boot into X?
[03:09] <eseven73> waxhead_: ah ok ty
[03:09] <waxhead_> eseven73: open a teminal/console and then fg <pid>
[03:09] <caca> leh kenal
[03:09] <Bob24> hi caca
[03:09] <waxhead_> eseven73: you can also just type jobs at the command line and it will show up jobs you have backgrounded
[03:10] <merther> anyone know a good program that I can use to format a flash drive?
[03:10] <eseven73> ok ty
[03:10] <Bob24> do you know much about mythbuntu
[03:10] <caca> btw lg pa ni
[03:10] <MikeH> hrm
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> merther: parted and mkfs
[03:10] <damo22> does anyone know anything about raid?  i installed 2 hdds as a mirrored raid using a raid controller built into a motherboard.. now the motherboard died and i need to get access to my old files... how do i do that?
[03:10] <bazhang> !id | caca
[03:10] <MikeH> X doesn't seem to be using /etc/X11/xorg.conf, even though I've created it
[03:10] <merther> thanks
[03:10] <MikeH> is there something else it may be using?
[03:10] <eseven73> waxhead_: it keeps saying bash: bg: 13647: no such job
[03:11] <wikki> Guest23955: it's an intel 9453gl
[03:11] <Fragsworth> I'm running a remote Ubuntu server and I want to install a (secure) remote desktop on it; does anyone know of any good resources for this?
[03:11] <onetinsoldier> merther: parted to make partition(s) if you want... mkfs to format a filesystem
[03:11] <nickrud> MikeH, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , it tells you which file it's using
[03:11] <wikki> I wonder if I need to update the bios or something
[03:11] <caca> hai bazhang
[03:11] <waxhead_> damo22: if it's a mirror, you should be able to mount it normally
[03:11] <waxhead_> eseven73: is that the pid of irssi?
[03:11] <eseven73> yep
[03:11] <merther> onetinsoldier:  Thanks I'll check those out.
[03:11] <zsquareplusc> Fragsworth: i'm usally happy with either ssh -X  or vnc over ssh
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> merther: ok, you're welcome
[03:12] <caca> napa gak pke bhsa indo ja
[03:12] <bazhang> caca, this is ubuntu support; /join #ubuntu-id
[03:12] <Azazel-AZ> thanks for the help everyone.
[03:12] <Bob24> for some reason all my videos on my mythbuntu installation are out of sync when i play them. What could be causing this?
[03:12] <caca> aim not englis
[03:12] <waxhead_> eseven73: it's the first number in the output... so you should see something like you name and then the pid
[03:12] <damo22> waxhead_: so i could install it into an external usb hdd box and just plug it in and mount it as a single drive?
[03:12] <eseven73> waxhead_: yeah thats what i picked
[03:12] <ohmygod> who can tell me, how to find the asm/io.h file ? I have installed linux-header package
[03:13] <zsquareplusc> ohmygod: locate io.h   maybe after a run of update-db
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: you may have created the file and put it in place, but have you restarted X since doing so?
[03:13] <waxhead_> damo22: maybe... as long as you mount it iwth the right filesystem you should be fine...
[03:14] <waxhead_> damo22: it's a mirror, so you have 2 to go with... striping is more of a problem as you would have to get at least 2 of the 3 ( if you used 3 ) up to get at your data
[03:14] <caca> hi
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: also, check out -->  grep drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log   if you don't want to look through the whole file
[03:14] <dgar1> ohmygod: find /usr/src -iname 'asm/io.h'
[03:14] <damo22> waxhead_: even with an obscure raid controller... it wouldnt partition the drive in an unreadable way?
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> ohmygod: you'll need to make a symlink
[03:14] <ohmygod> zsquareplusc, no, The header file should in /usr/include/asm/ , but there's nothing.
[03:15] <waxhead_> eseven73: it can't be the right pid then.... ??
[03:15] <Guest23955> wikki, sry my internet disconnected did u get the information?
[03:15] <wikki> Guest23955: it's an intel D945gl
[03:15] <zsquareplusc> ohmygod: why should it be there. that path somehow doesnt work if you have multiple linux-headers installed
[03:15] <waxhead_> damo22: dunno... guess you'll have to try it out... no harm in that...
[03:16] <wikki> er D945CGL
[03:16] <Overshee> whats a fan control program?
[03:16] <kdubya> hey i just got a machine from dell with ubuntu installed, and it wont let me ssh to any other machines
[03:16] <kdubya> it just hangs after authentication
[03:16] <waxhead_> damo22: I can't see why it would.. even for a mirror... but then I'm not the world's best expert on things like this...
[03:16] <damo22> waxhead_: my friend tried putting the 2 drives into an external raid box, but the drives wouldnt appear (on a mac)
[03:16] <kdubya> do they do something to block ssh?
[03:16] <antonia-laptop> hey guys, my laptop is having some graphic card issues, it says that fglrx needs to be enabled yet it doesnt enable it, however, xorg-driver-fglrx was installed and when i uninstalled x failed to start untill i reinstalled it. Also, i cannot shut down nor log off from the menu, i have to open a console and type sudo reboot
[03:17] <ohmygod> zsquareplusc, then, I have to make a symlink to it? ok, thanks
[03:17] <waxhead_> damo22: if it was me, I'd just try the one disk on a spare controller (IDE? SATA? ) and see if I could mount that...
[03:17] <damo22> waxhead_: ok thanks i'll tell him to give that a try
[03:17] <Delvien> In bash, how do i change the working directory?
[03:18] <kdubya> uh, cd
[03:18] <zsquareplusc> ohmygod: maybe they are in /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/ ...
[03:18] <debCarlos> Delvien: cd new_directory
[03:18] <waxhead_> damo22: you could also try a live disk like knoppix... I once recovered data from a fat32 drive that had it's MBR corrupted...
[03:18] <Delvien> debcarlos sorry, bash script
[03:18] <MikeH> Anyone here use irssi? Do you use something other than gnome-terminal for it? I find it's less than ideal, for example alt+left/right doesn't work, alt+t will open up tabs menu instead of changing window
[03:18] <Delvien> debCarlos: I have cd /directory, but im afraid it doesnt actually make it cd when i run the script
[03:18] <Overshee> whats a fan control program for ubuntu?
[03:19] <antonia-laptop> if it helps i'm using a del inspiron e1705 integrated radeon card
[03:19] <kdubya> Delvien, what do you think the difference between a script and the commands you type are?
[03:19] <debCarlos> Delvien: How do you know it ?
[03:19] <Bob24> for some reason all my videos on my mythbuntu installation are out of sync when i play them. What could be causing this?
[03:19] <kdubya> anyone know how to shut off whatever firewall crap dell installed on this machine?
[03:20] <Gumby> kdubya: dell installs ubuntu?
[03:20] <Doonz> simpleos you still around
[03:20] <kdubya> Gumby, yes
[03:20] <Delvien> debCarlos: kdubya got it, I had an extra exec= in there for some reason
[03:20] <Overshee> whats a fan control program for ubuntu?
[03:20] <hspaans> ufw you mean
[03:21] <debCarlos> Delvien: ok
[03:21] <debCarlos> !ufw
[03:21] <Overshee> me?
[03:21] <debCarlos> what's ufw ?
[03:21] <dcider> running ati 9600xt, catalyst and a viewsonic va1912, on 8.10. refresh rate is 60 with no choices, what to do???? was able to load the monitor inf in 8.04 but cant seem to find a way to do it now....
[03:21] <Delvien> United Farm Workers
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: try rxvt-unicode
[03:21] <debCarlos> lol
[03:21] <Overshee> me?
[03:22] <Overshee> whats a fan control program for ubuntu?
[03:22] <hspaans> kdubya: ufw - program for managing a netfilter firewall <-- most likely this is the one
[03:22] <Delvien> kdubya: UFW http://linuxappfinder.com/package/ufw
[03:22] <kdubya> oh, sweet
[03:22] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: wh not packages.ubuntu.com? ;-)
[03:22] <hspaans> Overshee: fan control? that is something the hardware should handle
[03:23] <Delvien> zsquareplusc: It has links to ubuntu wiki
[03:23] <debCarlos> Overshee: i think you can manage your fan through /proc/acpi/fan or something like it
[03:23] <debCarlos> Overshee: you should google about it
[03:23] <grayhane> went from 7.10 to 8.10 , now cannot read usb flash card, also system hangs up on boot if flash is plugged into the USB at time of boot.
[03:24] <kdubya> damn, i stopped the firewall
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> grayhane: so, you upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10... no version in between, correct?
[03:24] <kdubya> ssh still hangs after authentication
[03:24] <kdubya> anyone know what mighgt cause that?
[03:25] <zsquareplusc> Delvien: ok, that site doesn't look bad. and it seems to check your OS (browser header) :-)
[03:25] <ohmygod> zsquareplusc, there are many header files, how to make a link to /usr/include ? link the /usr/src/`uname -r`/include directory to /usr/include/ ?
[03:25] <MikeH> onetinsoldier: I don't understand, sorry?
[03:25] <grayhane> onetinsoldier, I installed 8.10 on clean drive. all worked in 7.10 but now no usb
[03:25] <Wicked> everytime i log into gnome i need to killall pulseaudio for my sound to work. and i also need to killall gnome-screensaver or else it makes full screen video act really slow
[03:26] <zsquareplusc> ohmygod: ln -s   can be used to make links, but i don't know what the standard is for the kernel
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> grayhane: oh.. i see. thought you got to 8.10 through upgrading, bot a fresh install
[03:26] <Wicked> how i can i make it so pulseaudio and gnome-screensaver dont start?
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: Anyone here use irssi? Do you use something other than gnome-terminal for it? I find it's less than ideal, for example alt+left/right doesn't work, alt+t will open up tabs menu instead of changing window  --> my reply: try rxvt-unicode
[03:26] <Doonz> simpleos you still around
[03:26] <grayhane> onetinsoldier, my attempt to do an upgrade was a disaster, so I did fresh install
[03:27] <zsquareplusc> Wicked: i think it would be better to fix.. but you find them in the session system>prefs>sessions
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> MikeH: as in ...   sudo apt-get install rxvt-unicode
[03:27] <Wicked> zsquareplusc, that doesnt seem to disable them
[03:28] <moods> hello all
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> grayhane: ok, roger
[03:28] <grayhane> onetinsoldier, any idea how I can get this usb to read the flash ? tried installing the auto mount for usb, still nothing.
[03:29] <waxhead_> eseven73: try CRTL-Z in irssi... that should send it to the background...
[03:29] <debCarlos> can someone say me if i should have any files under /proc/acpi/fan/ ( i'm on ubuntu 8.04 )
[03:30] <debCarlos> grayhane: what's your kernel version ? ( uname -r )
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> grayhane: i only replaied because i got the impression that you went frmo 7.10 to 8.10 by upgrading straight from one to the other. i didn't know you did a clean install of 8.10 on a new drive. sorry, i don't know what's wrong
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> replied*
[03:30] <evowill> grayhane: message sent
[03:31] <Guest60019> wikki, can u tell me again (i was the guest)
[03:31] <BT3MS_evil> still you are.
[03:31] <grayhane> debCarlos, not really sure, what is the command for that in the treminal ?
[03:31] <debCarlos> grayhane: uname -r
[03:32] <eseven73> Angelina24-CAM is "onjoin spamming"
[03:32] <danl> why does useradd create a user ignoring the rules in /etc/adduser.conf ?
[03:33] <danl> Angelina24-Cam, on join spammed me too
[03:33] <_786soul> I've done some reading, but just for clarification, ubuntu and linux in general still is behind in playing HD and blueray video? Or is there a way it can be done rather imply?
[03:33] <_786soul> simply*
[03:33] <BT3MS_evil> nothing ..
[03:33] <eseven73> !op | Angelina24-Cam is "onjoin spamming"
[03:34] <danl> she didn't do it to me when i rejoined
[03:34] <danl> but the first time i connected she did
[03:34] <danl> or it more pointedly
[03:34] <eseven73> she got me twice
[03:34] <danl> is there a way to force useradd to adhere to the rules in adduser.conf?
[03:35] <waxhead_> eseven73: crtl-z didn't work then?
[03:35] <eseven73> waxhead_: no and im having probs with screen and irssi, if i use irssi in screen i cant backspace
[03:36] <danl> eseven73: thats odd
[03:36] <eseven73> yeah works fine in my other computer
[03:36] <BT3MS_evil> default your irssi options.
[03:36] <waxhead_> danl: adduser and useradd aren't the same thing...
[03:36] <caca> jai
[03:36] <waxhead_> danl: adduser will use the adduser.conf file...
[03:37] <caca> can you
[03:37] <nikitis> Can anyone help me with a java issue i'm having?
[03:37] <nikitis> http://rafb.net/p/TA2xJG72.html
[03:37] <venger> eseven73, is it printing a ^? or ^H instead
[03:37] <danl> i know waxhead_, but i can't get adduser to do noninteractive user adding
[03:37] <eseven73> no
[03:38] <grayhane> debCarlos, 2.6.27-9
[03:38] <wikki> oh
[03:38] <wikki> Guest you back
[03:39] <venger> eseven73, google -> If your backspace key is acting as a 'delete'-key in irssi in screen, Hit command+I, in terminal to bring up your window preferences, under the Keyboard settings, tick 'Delete key sends backspace' - that should fix that."
[03:39] <eseven73> what is "command+I" venger ?
[03:40] <onetinsoldier> ctrl+i?
[03:40] <nikitis> Can anyone tell me why i'm receiving this error message?  http://rafb.net/p/TA2xJG72.html
[03:40] <debCarlos> grayhane: oh, then it should work all right... i thought you might still have an old kernel ^^
[03:41] <eseven73> no ctrl+i in irssi recalls the last person who pm'd me
[03:41] <dcider> running ati 9600xt, catalyst and a viewsonic va1912, on 8.10. refresh rate is 60 with no choices, what to do???? was able to load the monitor inf in 8.04 but cant seem to find a way to do it now....
[03:41] <exodus_ms> just used synaptic to update box and ff was updated to 3.0. After sys restart ff complained of a restart required, restarted ff and the same 'restart' banner appeared, I quit ff and used 'sudo killall -9 -r firefox' 'sudo apt-get purge firefox' 'firefox-3.0 ubufox' and then 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-gnome-support' Is there another solution to this workaround?
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: instead of this for a command...   ~/Source/PS3 Media Server$ sh PMS.sh   ...you might try this --> sh PMS.sh
[03:42] <nikitis> onetinsoldier, didn't you just type the same thing?
[03:42] <venger> eseven73, http://wiki.netsoc.dit.ie/index.php/An_Introduction_to_GNU_Screen#Backspace_doesn.27t_work.21
[03:42] <nathanhelp> I have a bit of looking  into this "issue". I have two ubuntu 8.10 i386 boxes that are networked, but are not seeing each other (as far as I can tell). Do I need Samba or something else?
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: no.. look carefully at your pastebin.. where your prompt is, unless i'm missing something
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: looks like your command prompt is...   niki@gamebox:     ...look waht follows right after that
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> what*
[03:44] <sigmab3ta> guys im trying to use my zune in vmware workstation 6.5 and i see this error message in the dmesg:
[03:44] <sigmab3ta>  usbfs: process 10218 (vmware-vmx) did not claim interface 0 before use
[03:44] <dexi> whats the default folder location for programs?
[03:44] <sigmab3ta> what does that mean?
[03:44] <eseven73> ok ty venger ill try that brb
[03:44] <nikitis> onetinsoldier, the current directory?
[03:44] <sergeys> wow, that's a lot of people =)
[03:45] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: your command prompt looks to be... niki@gamebox:    ...so it looks to me like your attempted command is --> ~/Source/PS3 Media Server$ sh PMS.sh
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: is that the command that you really want? ot do you really want just...  sh PMS.sh
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> s/ot/or
[03:46] <dexi> hola?
[03:46] <nikitis> onetinsoldier, Yes, this is what i'm going for. to run the shell script from the ~/Source/PS3 Media Server dir
[03:46] <debCarlos> !es | dexi
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: ok, just had to make sure
[03:47] <debCarlos> dexi: you can do it by typing /join #ubuntu-es
[03:47] <dexi> lol
[03:47] <miranda_psi> Can anyone help me with the sound problem I have?  Sometimes a program will take sole control of the sound, and then I can't get other programs to play sound, even after quitting the program and restarting my sound server...
[03:47] <dexi> ok sorry bad choice of words... but nobody answered me lol
[03:47] <Wicked> !vdpau
[03:47] <dexi> I asked where the dir for pre-installed programs is
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> nikitis: sorry, for some dumb reason that command prompt looked strange to me
[03:47] <debCarlos> dexi:  ups, sorry :) I though you just entered in the room lol
[03:48] <debCarlos> *had just
[03:48] <dexi> haha well do you know the default dir for pidgin (and i assume all the other programs that come on linux)
[03:48] <nathanhelp>  I have done a bit of looking into this "issue" but havent yet found answers. I have two ubuntu 8.10 i386 boxes that are networked, but are not seeing each other (as far as I can tell). Do I need Samba or something else?
[03:48] <nathanhelp> dexi: in user bin i think
[03:49] <nathanhelp> usr/bin