[01:35] <abattoir> hardw1re: am not sure if amarok handles .pls, but am sure xmms does
[01:36] <abattoir> hardw1re: actually amarok does too, i've heard shoutcast stuff
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to find out what BIOS I have from the OS?
[01:36] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes, i guess it is optimised for Pentium-class processors, but am not sure if it'd make much of a difference
[01:37] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm i think there is... but i dont know exactly
[01:38] <hardw1re> >_< hmm playing and getting no sound
[01:39] <abattoir> hardw1re: amarok? you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[01:39] <abattoir> hardw1re: what about xmms?
[01:40] <hardw1re> hmmm
[01:40] <hardw1re> it is playing
[01:40] <hardw1re> but not very loudly
[01:40] <hardw1re> stupid 5.1 sound cards
[01:40] <hardw1re> lol
[01:41] <abattoir> sound blaster?
[01:41] <hardw1re> audigy 2 zs
[01:41] <abattoir> aah, ok
[01:42] <abattoir> creative is probably the only company that i can think of that has managed to deliver quality stuff and prevent serious competition from entering its segment
[01:42] <abattoir> in the tech industry, that is
[01:42] <hardw1re> yeah they are ace
[01:42] <abattoir> and the sound card market, to be precise
[01:42] <hardw1re> they work nicely on windows :P
[01:43] <abattoir> their HQ is nice :)
[01:43] <Chris7mas> hi all
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Any other Ideas on the ACPI, abattoir?
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> hi Chris7mas
[01:44] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: only resume doesnt work right? stuff like battery monitor,  lid switch, etc. work?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> It's more of an X problem, I am sure...
[01:45] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i wonder why you say ACPI then...
[01:45] <netbrain> is it possible to use nautilus as xfce's filemanager?
[01:45] <abattoir> netbrain: i think it is, but you'd be answered better at #xubuntu
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Battery Monitor (KPowersave) works fine, switching energy profiles work, turning off the screen works...
[01:46] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: then i dont think its an ACPI issue.... why do you say that? read it somewhere?
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, I am expressing myself a little blurry, admittedly...
[01:46] <netbrain> abattoir: thank you
[01:47] <MilhousePunkRock> I call it ACPI problem, since ACPI is power management, and not resuming is related to power management from my point of view
[01:47] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'm not very sure, but http://acpi.sf.net might help you
[01:48] <hardw1re> that got it working, i set amarok to manually use the alsa mixer
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Been there already... Found nothing helpful so far, but I will look again
[01:49] <hardw1re> so it was amarok not streaming to the mixing device
[01:50] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i just suggested that because i thought it might be useful... if you have already seen it i am not very sure it'll be useful though
[01:50] <hardw1re> ok then, now that i got some music to listen too time to get this bast*rd scanner working
[01:50] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: btw, do you actually *use* suspend/restore or is it a feature that you just want to have for the occasional use?
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I found something for FreeBSD on a ThinkPad, there the mouse needed to be restarted too
[01:51] <Tommy2k4> i need to delete swap and /home so i can make / bigger, any way to do that without a livecd
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: I use that quite regularly, when I leave the laptop, I close the lid and it suspends... At least that's how I wish it was...
[01:51] <abattoir> hardw1re: hehe... but seriously, i'd expect the scanner to work out of the box w/ hplip and kooka, the scanner in my hp all in one did
[01:51] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm... ok
[01:51] <hardw1re> yeah well apparently the 4070 isnt so straight forward for linux
[01:52] <abattoir> hardw1re: i wonder what's so different compared to the other models
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> In the #xorg channel noone ever responds, I have been there to ask for help as well...
[01:54] <hardw1re> oh well i think i broke the usb drivers lol
[01:54] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: would you try and compile the latest version of suspend2 and take all the trouble if it meant resume worked?
[01:54] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i'm not sure, but maybe you could try that.... wait a sec
[01:55] <vikapi> alguien habla espaol
[01:55] <hardw1re> lsusb stops responding, usb devices in the info center stops responding too lol
[01:55] <abattoir> !es
[01:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Someone even suggested compiling a new kernel...
[01:55] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: yes...
[01:56] <abattoir> !info suspend2
[01:56] <ubotu> Package suspend2 does not exist in dapper
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Once I have the system set-up completely, I am probably going to that anyway... A tailor made OS... Isn't that what everybody wants?
[01:57] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: http://www.suspend2.net/ is the page, but if you google, you might find a version for ubuntu
[01:57] <abattoir> not sure if it'll fix the issue though
[01:57] <abattoir> remember, Google is your best friend online :P
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, the first sentence on that page (I did google that the moment you mentioned the package) says it's hibernation
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Did I not say I am looking for Suspend to RAM?
[01:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmmm, i'm not sure how that'd work
[01:59] <abattoir> afaik, an image of your current system(including ram state i guess) is stored in your harddisk
[02:00] <abattoir> this is reloaded when you boot up
[02:00] <MilhousePunkRock> That's suspend to disc though
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I got mixed up on the names too... Standby, Sleep, Suspend...
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I am sure I would get hibernation to work without suspend2
[02:01] <abattoir> oh, so you want *sleep* to work?
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> but I don't have the special partition I need for it, at least not yet
[02:02] <abattoir> all this while i thought it was hibernation....
[02:02] <MilhousePunkRock> The exact term is "Suspend to RAM"
[02:02] <abattoir> i thought Suspend/Resume was that
[02:02] <abattoir> hmm, that makes sense :)
[02:02] <abattoir> ok, tbh i havent tried that in my laptop :P
[02:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I thought I was looking for standby first, since that was the name in Windows
[02:04] <abattoir> hmmm, heh, i have no clue about that, never found that useful :P
[02:04] <abattoir> ok, anyways, i need to go now... catch you later... bye
[02:05] <hardw1re> I HATE HP!!!
[02:05] <hardw1re> lol
[02:05] <hardw1re> they make a great scanner, that doesnt work out the box on linux
[02:05] <abattoir> hardw1re: chill dude :P
[02:05] <hardw1re> and i just cant find any info on it on google
[02:05] <abattoir> hardw1re: i'd still suggest looking at getting the usb fixed and try messing around w/ hplib... it should work
[02:05] <hardw1re> i also hate my logitech quickcam messenger webcam, cause thats not as straight forward to get working
[02:06] <abattoir> have to go.. hardw1re, MilhousePunkRock, bye :)
[02:06] <hardw1re> ok
[02:06] <hardw1re> seee ya
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> CU abattoir
[02:06] <hardw1re> i'mma rebootle me thinks
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx for your patience!
[02:09] <Jack1> hiya
[02:09] <danny50010> hi
[02:09] <danny50010> whats up?
[02:09] <Jack1> does anyone know how kmail gets that way configured that it tells me when new mail has arrived?
[02:10] <danny50010> nope
[02:10] <danny50010> and I think I'm the only one here
[02:10] <danny50010> you want to here the craziest thing ever?
[02:10] <KDEfanboy> what's that
[02:11] <danny50010> I just picked up a chick from Astralia!
[02:11] <danny50010> on the net
[02:11] <danny50010> msn
[02:11] <scheuri> Jack1: it should be possible either giving a tone or a pop up
[02:11] <KDEfanboy> Jack1: ya, using kontify
[02:11] <danny50010> yeh use that
[02:11] <scheuri> Jack1: but I am on a german KMail, so I cant really navigate you through the menu
[02:11] <scheuri> danny50010: are you okay?
[02:11] <danny50010> yeh why?
[02:11] <KDEfanboy> wow danny well don't be stingy.. share your secrets
[02:12] <danny50010> ok
[02:12] <danny50010> I went to a hot groups room for romance
[02:12] <scheuri> oh...my...
[02:12] <danny50010> and I found so chick from aussie
[02:12] <danny50010> got her email
[02:13] <danny50010> then emailed her a sexy story that I amde up
[02:13] <scheuri> PLEASE go to ubuntu-offtopic for this
[02:13] <scheuri> or kubuntu-offtopic
[02:13] <danny50010> now I talk to here on msn
[02:13] <danny50010> she sends me pics!
[02:13] <danny50010> hold on she's back
[02:14] <jazon> anyone in here have access to NetLibrary through their university library?
[02:14] <jazon> if you do, i need a favor ... :P
[02:15] <Jack1> scheuri say it in german
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> k im in livecd and i got qtparted open and i deleted /home and swap
[02:15] <scheuri> Jack1: hold on
[02:15] <Tommy2k4> but resize on /dev/hda2 ( / ) is disabled
[02:15] <danny50010> I'm back
[02:16] <KDEfanboy> i occasionally get random hard locks on my kubuntu system.. aside from looking through /var/log.. any other place i can check to try to determine wtf is going on?
[02:17] <aleksi> any fin here ?
[02:17] <scheuri> Jack1: oh my...cant find it myself just now...gimme another minute...so sorry
[02:19] <Jack1> scheuri we can speak in german dont worry
[02:19] <v3ctor> !fi
[02:19] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[02:19] <scheuri> Jack1: if we do so...please change to channel #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de
[02:21] <hardw1re> hmm HPLIP seems to only cover multifunction printers that have built in scanners
[02:29] <mihal> ccc
[02:33] <ergin> selam
[02:33] <ergin> trk yokmu ??
[02:35] <scheuri> !tk
[02:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about tk - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:35] <Tommy2k4> why would resize on dev/hda2 (/) be disabled in qtparted when booted to livecd
[02:39] <nacer> hi salut
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3365/resizems0.png why is resize disabled
[02:51] <dj_baggio> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6692.0;topicseen
[02:51] <dj_baggio> any ideas? :)
[02:58] <hardw1re> !systemlog
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about systemlog - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:58] <hardw1re> !system log
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about system log - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:58] <hardw1re> where do i find the system log?
[02:58] <v3ctor>  /var/log/messages
[03:00] <dj_baggio> exactly;]
[03:00] <hardw1re> hmm everything seems good, i just cant seem to get an image from my webcam
[03:02] <hardw1re> just junk
[03:02] <hardw1re> i use to get this problem the 1st time i did this last year, and i solved it... but thaaaaaaaaat was a long time ago
[03:05] <ubuntu_> my kubuntu crashed even from livecd :(
[03:08] <Tommy2k4> http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9423/snapshot1hs2.png why wont it let me resize hda2
[03:14] <hardw1re> no idea Tommy2k4
[03:14] <bea> ehil...
[03:15] <bea> ehm
[03:15] <bea> sono nuova anzi nuovissima
[03:15] <bea> non  che qulacuno ha un minuto?
[03:17] <rlj> having some troubles reading some dvd movies. i have libdvdcss2 installed as described in the RestrictedFormats wiki page, and some dvds do indeed play (and i assume they must have css since they're commercial dvd movies) however some do not, especially some bearing the tag "copy protected" on the disc/cover. what does this term mean in context or is it just a buzzword some put on meaning nothing but the normal css?
[03:17] <rlj> all discs i've tried have the same region code (2) so i don't think that's the issue
[03:17] <rlj> using kaffeine under kubuntu 6.06
[03:18] <hardw1re> what about mplayer?
[03:18] <laDivina> hi!!
[03:18] <rlj> hardw1re: haven't tried so far
[03:19] <rlj> hardw1re: only kaffeine (which is using xine, right?) so far
[03:19] <rlj> maybe i should download vlc and have a go
[03:19] <laDivina> hardw1re i'm new...can you help me?
[03:19] <laDivina> pygi????????
[03:19] <pygi> laDivina: what's wrong?
[03:19] <laDivina> hi pygi!!! pigy is the name of my best friend...incredible
[03:20] <laDivina> ehm...pygi i never use linux til now
[03:20] <laDivina> and i think i didn't configure the swap
[03:20] <pygi> what do you mean by "didn't configure the swap"?
[03:20] <pygi> you havent made a swap partition?
[03:20] <Lynoure> rlj: just to help others with helping you: what happens when you play the ones you have problems with? Any error messages, anything at all?
[03:21] <laDivina> yes i made the partition but
[03:21] <laDivina> how can i do to be sure that the partition i made is using by the swap?
[03:21] <pygi> swap is being used, don't worry about that :)
[03:21] <laDivina> (first of all...thanks a lot for your time!)
[03:22] <pygi> laDivina: don't thank me :P
[03:22] <pygi> laDivina: you can be sure that swap works for you
[03:22] <rlj> Lynoure: kaffeine complains about not being able to read the disc, suggesting the disc might not contain video data or i do not have sufficient privileges to perform the operation
[03:23] <rlj> downloading vlc now anyway. will have a go with that one. after all, libdvdcss is developed by the vlc guys, isn't it?
[03:23] <pygi> laDivina: have you configured your system? apt and stuff?
[03:23] <laDivina> no...what does it means??
[03:23] <laDivina> apt and stuff...?
[03:23] <v3ctor> `swapon -s` will show you what swap devices are being used
[03:23] <pygi> laDivina: apt is package manager
[03:23] <pygi> anyway, please wait a sec :)
[03:23] <laDivina> ah ok!! adept!!
[03:24] <laDivina> ok pygi
[03:25] <Jack1> hi how do i set up a root password to use with su -p?
[03:26] <pygi> laDivina: do: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:26] <Jack1> i have a sudo one but thats another cup of coffee
[03:26] <hardw1re> sudo passwd
right thx
[03:26] <pygi> laDivina: put in your password, erase all content and paste stuff from this location:
[03:27] <pygi> laDivina: you alive? :P
[03:28] <laDivina> yeah yeah i'm alive..i guess
[03:28] <pygi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18783
[03:28] <laDivina> i wrote the kommand
[03:28] <pygi> after that, use:
[03:28] <pygi> "sudo apt-get update"
[03:28] <pygi> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:28] <pygi> laDivina: tell if there is anything you dont understand
[03:28] <laDivina> i think that adept already upgrade the system
[03:29] <pygi> laDivina: just please do all the steps I said :)
[03:29] <laDivina> right
[03:31] <laDivina> ok pygi i did it
[03:31] <Tommy2k4> well i figured out how to resize the partition if anyone wants to know
[03:31] <pygi> laDivina: all of the steps?
[03:32] <laDivina> yes!
[03:32] <pygi> laDivina: ok, lets get on with more configuration & setting up :)
[03:33] <pygi> just run the commands I tell you and say when you're done
[03:33] <pygi> wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.022.tar.gz
[03:36] <pygi> laDivina: done downloading?
[03:39] <Tommy2k4> my comp couldnt of picked a worse time to crash >_<
[03:39] <Tommy2k4> while i was repartitioning my hdd
[03:48] <doppelganger_> yo aegean, are you here?
[03:48] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:57] <hardw1re> is there a way to tell something to make with a specific version of gcc?
[03:58] <buz> does anybody know how to boot an ibook from a kubuntu ppc cd? shouldnt it be enough to hit C upon boot?
[04:00] <ThunderStruck> hardw1re: i think apt-cache show package tells you that
[04:04] <tommy2k4> i managed to resize my / partition :) but now it wont login :(
[04:04] <tommy2k4> could not start kstartupconfig or something
[04:04] <tommy2k4> so i think it either doesnt like my /home being empty or its not mounting it
[04:05] <hardw1re> ThunderStruck: i mean when you do a make install or a make all, to tell it to compile with gcc 3.4 instead of gcc 4.0
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> tommy2k4: that would certainly do it.
[04:10] <ThunderStruck> hardw1re: i dont htink you do since it was compiled with a version already but if you can you would set the version you want to use and ./configure make sudo checkinstall
[04:12] <Healot> hardw1re: install gcc 3.4, prefix the compile command with CC=gcc-3.4
[04:14] <hardw1re> nah camera still wont work propler
[04:14] <hardw1re> properly&
[04:14] <hardw1re> *
[04:19] <synie> hey, i'm startung out of my program some other processes. if i'll list the programm with the processes via ps -axf, then the processes r listed within the "main"-program (in tree style). is the ram load infront of the "main"-program the load of ALL processes, started out of this program, or is it only the load of the program itself ?
[04:19] <Healot> my one cent, stick to Windows. hardw1re
[04:21] <hardw1re> >_<
[04:21] <hardw1re> windows is boring
[04:21] <Healot> no, it is not... the coolest GUI-oriented OS ever :)
[04:25] <LeeJunFan> heh, I was about to say ubuntu was having trouble again but apparently SBC is having an interconnect problem with level3.net
[04:31] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Hello
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: Hi
[04:35] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: is there anyway to turn off comming and going announcements?
[04:35] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Hello
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: in irssi ?
[04:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey RogueX
[04:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Are you using Konversation, RogueX?
[04:36] <flake> i'm running kubuntu, is it the same as dapper drake?
[04:36] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: In Konversation my window fills up with all the statements of users leaving and comming...
[04:36] <LeeJunFan> flake: dapper is simply a release name for kubuntu/ubuntu - just like vista is for windows.
[04:36] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: yes
[04:37] <MilhousePunkRock> flake: Dapper Drake is the codename for the 6.06 'Untus
[04:37] <eshed> but isnt kubuntu with KDE and ubuntu with GNOME?
[04:37] <flake> will i have to re-install with every upgrade of drake
[04:37] <slow-motion> yes
[04:37] <eshed> umm anyone knows about SIS650 and ubuntu?
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> eshed: that's how they start out, but one can install the other as well.
[04:37] <gnomefreak> eshed: yes
[04:37] <slow-motion> kubuntu is kde and ubuntu gnome
[04:38] <flake> drake is like suse or fedora then
[04:38] <josh___> how do you kill x server
[04:38] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: Settings --> Set up Konversation --> Chat window --> Behavoiur --> join/part/nick events
[04:38] <LeeJunFan> flake: drake is just a version of ubuntu
[04:38] <flake> will i have to reinstall everything if/when drake goes to next release
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> 6.06 is dapper drake, 6.10 will be Edgy Eft
[04:39] <josh___> telinit 3 doesn't work!!
[04:39] <eshed> anyone? SiS 650 troubles D:
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> flake: no, you can do upgrades
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> The next will have another name
[04:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ^^ flake
[04:39] <flake> that's cool
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> flake: or you can continue to run drake, security updates will be supported for the next 5 or so years I think.
[04:40] <eshed> i can't install my video onboard SiS 650 card... can't even go above 60 refresh rate :-\
[04:40] <josh___> yeah because you need the nvidia drivers
[04:40] <josh___> acutally not nvidia
[04:40] <josh___> just video drivers
[04:40] <eshed> where can i get those?
[04:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you find that RogueX?
[04:40] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: YOU ROCK!    Thank you VERY MUCH
[04:41] <flake> eshed - nvidia has linux drivers on their website
[04:41] <josh___> i have to install ndidia drivers too...
[04:41] <josh___> and i need to quit x server but nobody will tell me how
[04:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx RogueX, but I am only a beginner...
[04:41] <josh___> and telenit 3 doesn't do shit
[04:41] <eshed> flake: i dont have nvidia, i have lame sis onboard
[04:41] <flake> oh
[04:41] <eshed> and i cant find the correct drivers
[04:42] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Then your a advance beginner!!
[04:42] <flake> can you upgrade your mb
[04:42] <eshed> my what? (newbe sometimes over here)
[04:42] <flake> motherboard
[04:42] <flake> or is it a laptop
[04:42] <eshed> OH
[04:42] <eshed> no, no laptop
[04:42] <LeeJunFan> josh___: telinit3, should, or sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:42] <eshed> and i dont intend to upgrade, just want to use linux properly :D
[04:42] <flake> oh
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> sudo telinit 3 anyway
[04:43] <flake> sis650 drivers?
[04:43] <eshed> yes
[04:43] <flake> http://www.download.com/SiS-SiS650-SiS740-Family-Chipset-Graphics-Driver-Windows-2000-XP-/3000-2108_4-10278937.html
[04:43] <flake> ?
[04:43] <josh___> kdm not responding to TERM signal (pid 4996).
[04:44] <eshed> that was fast ^_^ tnx ill try it
[04:44] <gatekeeper> LeeJunFan: are you going to be able to wait until 2007 version has been released before upgrading and will you be able to go from dapper to the 2007 version?
[04:44] <eshed> but windows xp?
[04:44] <flake> it says windows2000/xp
[04:44] <flake> make sure it's right model number
[04:44] <eshed> dont i need linux or smtng?
[04:44] <flake> doh
[04:44] <mneisen> Hello, does anybody know how I can tell KDE to mount media (USB sticks/external harddrive) without the noexec mount option?
[04:45] <flake> http://www.sis.com/support/support_faqs_16.htm
[04:45] <flake> it says it has support for linux kernel 2.4.20
[04:45] <flake> use www.google.com, you can find almost anything with it
[04:46] <eshed> ...its redhat :-\
[04:47] <eshed> flake: i use the new ubuntu (dapper drake 6.06) and it comes with a default driver, but it only reaches 1024 res with max 60 refresh rate :-\
[04:47] <josh___> every thing i try doesn't work
[04:48] <flake> did you try sending their tech support an email
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[04:48] <eshed> umm not yet, thought to try here first :)
[04:49] <josh___> i thought there was an auto update to get nvidia drivers
[04:50] <mneisen> !noexec
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about noexec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:50] <mneisen> !tell me noexec
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell me noexec - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:51] <eshed> josh___: umm u tried using the ubuntu guide? it has a page about video drivers from ATI and Nvidia I think
[04:51] <josh___> omg
[04:51] <josh___> where
[04:51] <josh___> i think i've been to that
[04:51] <josh___> link me plz
[04:52] <eshed> umm sec
[04:52] <josh___> u need to install something in package manager
[04:52] <josh___> i can never install anythign with package manager
[04:53] <josh___> it downloads it then does nothing
[04:53] <flake> esehd - what's the problem with your current driver(s)
[04:53] <eshed> flake - i can see the linux and everything
[04:53] <josh___> o yay its working
[04:53] <eshed> but it only goes up to 60 refresh rate
[04:54] <eshed> and i cant use any 3d stuff
[04:54] <eshed> google earth even
[04:54] <josh___> u can't go past 60 refresh rate cuz u have no drivers
[04:54] <eshed> that's the point ^_^ i need those drivers
[04:54] <josh___> google it?
[04:55] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I untar a .tar.bz2 on the console?
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> tar xvfj
[04:55] <houngan> tar -xvjf file
[04:56] <mneisen> MilhousePunkRock: I would do tar xfjp file.tar.bz2 - this keeps the permissions tha are contained in the file.
[04:56] <yamal> eshed: check http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsispart1.shtml
[04:56] <eshed> ye someone just gave me that address in the #ubuntu channel, but it doesnt respond
[04:56] <eshed> oh wait, i dont think its the same one
[04:57] <eshed> yamal: saw your page
[04:57] <eshed> yamal: (know it)
[04:57] <MilhousePunkRock> And how do I specify a "target path"? It's in /home/me/Downloads now and the I want it unpacked to /home/me/var/
[04:58] <eshed> yamal: ill try again :)
[04:59] <yamal> eshed: looks like it has all the info you need, esp the "x driver" parts towards the end
[04:59] <eshed> yamal: bah that page is old ... i have X version 7.0.0 and the max it has is 6.9
[04:59] <eshed> yamal: well i guess ill try "X.org 6.9.0 (gcc 4.x; should work for 7.0 as well)"
[05:01] <flake> is enabling dmz on a gaming pc (within a router network) dangerous
[05:02] <josh___> no
[05:02] <josh___> its fine
[05:02] <MilhousePunkRock> flake: I'd rather forward the ports manually though
[05:02] <josh___> cuz routers have firewalls anyways
[05:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Isn't DMZ bypassing the firewall big time?
[05:02] <josh___> well apps like steam require non-dmz along with forwarded ports
[05:03] <eshed> umm how can I stop X.org?
[05:03] <josh___> i can't enable it because steam won't let me
[05:03] <flake> yes, for just one internal ip address
[05:04] <MilhousePunkRock> mneisen: How can I specify a target path for untaring?
[05:04] <flake> i'm just trying to reduce lag on my 10-15mb/s line
[05:04] <flake> people still get one shoot in - lose a couple of frames, and i'm dead
[05:04] <MilhousePunkRock> lag is not necessarily connected to the line speed
[05:04] <eshed> its more to where u live, no?
[05:04] <MilhousePunkRock> You'd have to determine if it's system or network lag first
[05:05] <eshed> Anyone knows how to STOP X.org?
[05:05] <MilhousePunkRock> What game is it, flake?
[05:05] <flake> et(lin or win), bf2 (for win)
[05:06] <Hobbsee> eshed: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:06] <flake> cod2 runs great
[05:06] <flake> quake4 lags (lin or win)
[05:07] <eshed> Hobbsee: someone told me to do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:07] <Hobbsee> eshed: well, are you using kdm or gdm?
[05:07] <Hobbsee> eshed: seeing as that will determine which to use
[05:07] <eshed> Hobbsee: what, gnome or kde?
[05:07] <Hobbsee> (and why are you asking the same questoin in two channels at once anyway?)
[05:07] <Hobbsee> eshed: effectively, yeah
[05:07] <MilhousePunkRock> flake: Than it's not the router... Just lower your settings in the game
[05:07] <bady> hi guys
[05:07] <eshed> Hobbsee: well gdm then ^_^
[05:07] <flake> ok
[05:08] <eshed> Hobsee: tnx
[05:08] <eshed> Hobsee: i tried it sometime ago and it made my screen flicker endlessly.... or am i wrong? :0\
[05:09] <bady> I'm trying to use qucs to learn some stuff about circuits... but once I try to put a table into the data window it crashes... I tryed putting it into a graph and then it tells me that my data is invalid.... any ideas?
[05:10] <flake> thanks i'll try to tweak it more
[05:10] <arto> hoi
[05:10] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[05:11] <MilhousePunkRock> eshed: I think you need to open a new console for that with Ctrl-Alt-F1
[05:11] <tommy2k4> what do i need to do to be able to login again after formatting /home
[05:11] <flake> warzone 2100 is freeware, and have install for linux
[05:11] <tommy2k4> it says kstartupconfig could not start
[05:11] <flake> http://home.gna.org/warzone/index.shtml
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> flake: I have found the best way is to use a router in client mode then connect to that via wired (avoid using wireless for playing a game at low lag)
[05:12] <flake> right, i have it hardwired
[05:12] <bady> tommy2k4: you need to have a drive which you can mount to /home it has to be rw for your user....
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> flake: Don't know then
[05:12] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock: yea i think last time i didnt... btw how do i start X.org again after that?
[05:13] <bady> startx ?
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> lol eshed I had to figure that out just a second ago... CTRL-ALT-F6 it was, I think
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> startx won't work, bady, since X is still running
[05:14] <MilhousePunkRock> although if you stop it with /etc/init.d/xdm stop, startx should work
[05:14] <tommy2k4> bady ive partitioned it and its mounted
[05:14] <bady> well he didn't tell me that its still running
[05:14] <eshed> ill use /etc/initid/gdm stop
[05:14] <TeePOG> evening
[05:14] <bady> tommy2k4: do you have rw access?
[05:15] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock: umm ctrl-alt-f6 willstart X.org again or should i use startx?
[05:15] <tommy2k4> pretty sure it said so in mount, yes
[05:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I think if you stop it, f6 won't help...
[05:16] <eshed> so startx then? :)
[05:16] <MilhousePunkRock> sorry for the misunderstanding
[05:16] <bady> do a /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:16] <eshed> np, tnx
[05:16] <bady> xdm of course
[05:17] <eshed> oh guess that's logical, since same thing with STOP stops it :)
[05:17] <bady> =9
[05:17] <eshed> i use gnome, thank u :) is that x thing better than gnome?
[05:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Gnome and KDE and whatnot all base on xserver AFAIK
[05:18] <eshed> so what is xubuntu about again, if not the desktop environment?
[05:19] <MilhousePunkRock> That's xfce, the window manager... Not to be confused with xserver
[05:19] <eshed> so xfce versus gnome, what do u say?
[05:19] <eshed> "Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for unix-like operating systems. It aims to be fast and lightweight, while still being visually appealing and easy to use."
[05:19] <bady> gnome looks nicer xfce is nicer for your cpu
[05:20] <bady> KDE and gnome are eye candys... nnothing more
[05:20] <eshed> will i be better off with xfce? (i'm new to linux so i can adjust to anything right now)
[05:21] <bady> gnome is probably easier to use
[05:21] <bady> but it all depends on what you wanna do with your system
[05:21] <gemidjy_> I have 2 devices on my machine - a DVD-RW and a CD-RW (hdc and hdd respectively). I mount the cd via shell, mount /dev/hdb /media/dvd0, and it mounts fine, But KDE doesn't notices that DVD with data on it is inserted but it sees it as Blank CD and opens "Open with..." dialog..
[05:21] <eshed> what can u do with xfce that u cant with gnome or the other way around?
[05:22] <bady> you can do everything.... because you always have a terminal and the xserver for rendering the GUI of your apps
[05:23] <eshed> umm u have the terminal in gnome as well, no ?
[05:23] <bady> I think in gnome it is under Apps->system->Terminal....
[05:24] <bady> gemidjy_: I always thought kde wants to mount everything under mnt?
[05:24] <gemidjy_> bady: please ...
[05:24] <bady> ??
[05:24] <gemidjy_> kde doesn't mount anything at all, it is not its job
[05:24] <eshed> i added a shortcut in the panel to the terminal... its one click away:) but you could use the CTRL-ALT-Fx, no?
[05:24] <gemidjy_> and I can tell udev to mount my cdrom in /asmdkada/cdrom if I want
[05:25] <bady> gemidjy_: yes I know... but it has an automounter.... and since you are in #kubuntu
[05:25] <gemidjy_> bady: I know that man!
[05:25] <gemidjy_> geez..
[05:25] <dr_willis> theres some udev config files you can mess with :) or so ive read about.
[05:25] <MilhousePunkRock> eshed: I doubt that a terminal _inside_ X will stop X properly
[05:25] <bady> gemidjy_: you should calm down...
[05:25] <dr_willis> or just make a soft link.
[05:26] <gemidjy_> bady: Kay calls udev and it listens for its calls, nothing else
[05:26] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock: that's why i use the CTRL-ALT-Fx, no/
[05:26] <gemidjy_> so kde still doesnt mount anything
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> What is this supposed to mean: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I think so, eshed
[05:26] <gemidjy_> MilhousePunkRock: install kdebase-dev
[05:27] <JavaByte> hi - i've got a problem with a drive not showing up - i've tried to mount it with sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc3 /media/hdc3 and it says mount: mount point /media/hdc3 does not exist
[05:27] <eshed> well thanks MilhousePunkRock and all, if i leave the chatroom then it means i had to restart my comp because the drivers wont install noramlly :) bbs
[05:27] <JavaByte> yet it appears in media??
[05:27] <MukiEX> Is there a solid guide for 1. ghosting and 2. installing XGL?
[05:27] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  that dir needs to EXIST befor ya mount it..
[05:27] <dr_willis> media - is part of the auto mounting system
[05:27] <MilhousePunkRock> You need to specify a mountpoint, not the device, JavaByte
[05:27] <dr_willis> so it can auto do things. :)
[05:28] <JavaByte> so i create /hdc3 in /media and it's all good :?
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> JavaByte: yeah, mkdir /media/hdc3
[05:28] <JavaByte> cool :)
[05:28] <eshed> weird, why cant i use CTRL-ALT-F2? D:
[05:28] <MilhousePunkRock> What's wrong with F1 eshed?
[05:29] <eshed> same as all the other Fx's, MilhousePunkRock
[05:29] <eshed> it just won't go there D:
[05:30] <eshed> so weird, i just went there couple of minutes ago
[05:30] <MilhousePunkRock> I think you can quit KDE or Gnome from the Login-Screen
[05:31] <eshed> well yea but its so weird
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> eshed: you don't have a function key lock on your keyboard that needs activated do you?
[05:32] <kalinda> Hey! I need some help :)
[05:32] <eeos> hi there
[05:32] <eshed> LeeJunFan: i dont have that F lock or anything, just your regular Num lock, Caps lock and Scroll lock :)
[05:32] <JavaByte> damn now it's saying folder couldn't be opened - do i need to rb
[05:32] <JavaByte> ?
[05:32] <dr_willis> Padlock,
[05:32] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:32] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:33] <eeos> just installed kubuntu, but I have to problems here
[05:33] <kalinda> Anybody know how to properly install Azureus so it'll actually start?
[05:33] <dr_willis> ya may want to do some reading on the basics of mounting drives and partitiona JavaByte .
[05:33] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock: btw how do i return to the login screen when i use the terminal from the login screen?
[05:33] <kalinda> eeos: What are ur problems? lol.. I dunno if I can help or not.. I'm sort of new to it.. but I've used Linux for a few months now
[05:33] <dr_willis> kalinda,  I found Ktorrent better. :P    Azureus had some very very annoying bugs last i managed to get it working.
[05:34] <kalinda> Well, KTorrent is kinda... slooooooooooow... and I used Azureus in Suse... I'll switch if I have to.. but I'd like to get it working and see first
[05:34] <eeos> well, I need to learn how to install kde themes on kubuntu 6.06
[05:34] <dr_willis> ive never noticed ktorrent being any slower then azurus
[05:34] <kalinda> actually, Im not sure about KTorrent, just that it was tried in another distro and it had slow dload speeds
[05:35] <dr_willis> how do you even benchmark such things.
[05:35] <dr_willis> torrent downloads have so many other variables that can slow them down. :P
[05:35] <kalinda> lol yeah, I know..
[05:35] <kalinda> I guess I could try something I _know_ to be fast
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> azureus feels slow
[05:35] <JavaByte> ah i see now i need permission :s
[05:35] <dr_willis> i never found Azureus  to be fast.
[05:35] <dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <kalinda> Azureus IS slow.. I mean... cuz it uses Java..
[05:35] <MilhousePunkRock> OpenOffice... That was the fastest torrent I ever had
[05:35] <dr_willis> then again most torrents are slow.
[05:36] <kalinda> but it doesnth ave slow download speeds
[05:36] <kalinda> eeos: KDE themes? Okay..
[05:36] <dr_willis> Or course when ya are downloading stuff at 5k/s anyway.. for a week at a time...
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> rtorrent is the best to use (if you have to use torrents)
[05:36] <kalinda> eeos: Go to www.kde-look.org
[05:36] <JavaByte> whats the linux equivelent for attrib then?
[05:36] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  whats your fstab entry?
[05:36] <kalinda> Then, go to themes
[05:36] <kalinda> I think
[05:36] <kalinda> there will be instructions
[05:36] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  you DONT chmod the mounted dirs. you use the right options to mount and in the fstab.
[05:36] <root__> hi there
[05:37] <kalinda> hello
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> JavaByte: chmod
[05:37] <MilhousePunkRock> you shouldn't use IRC as root, root__
[05:37] <dr_willis> ya shouldent be doing anything as root - :) that dosent have to be done as root. :P then exit out of root. "the root of all evil" l0l
[05:37] <JavaByte> there's no fstab entry?? yet it mounted ok?
[05:38] <JavaByte> i don't get it?!!
[05:38] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  theres 2 systems going on.. the fstab, and then the auto mounting features of the window manager/desktop
[05:38] <LeeJunFan> JavaByte: fstab just has stuff in it that you supplied on the command line.
[05:38] <dr_willis> if you want to make a fstab entry thats fine. and may work better then the auto mounting stuff.
[05:38] <LeeJunFan> JavaByte: since you told it what fs type, device and mountpoint on the commandline it didn't need to look in fstab to fill in blanks.
[05:38] <stefan_> hello, where can I konfigure my scanner?
[05:39] <JavaByte> so i need to enter the fstab by manual edit?
[05:39] <root__> MilhousePunkRock: uh, why? is it wrong?
[05:39] <dr_willis> fstab is a text file... that can be edited.
[05:39] <MilhousePunkRock> You shouldn't ever be root on Linux unless you have to...
[05:39] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  what kind of drive is this?
[05:40] <MilhousePunkRock> You don't need to be root to use IRC, so don't be root... :-)
[05:40] <kalinda> Erm
[05:40] <JavaByte> 80gb HD
[05:40] <kalinda> this is gonna come off stupid but.. how do I tell Firefox to use KTorrent to open the torrent?
[05:40] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  is it a NTFS? or Linux partition... :P  i guessed it was a hard drive. :)
[05:40] <kalinda> The KMenu reveals nothing about where KTorrent actually IS
[05:40] <root__> MilhousePunkRock: well, if I canan ccess everything s root why should I restrict myself, I want it all
[05:40] <JavaByte> partitioned 4 times - linux root home swap and 40gb of ntfs
[05:40] <dr_willis> kalinda,  i always save the .torrents to a dir..  just in case.
[05:40] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:40] <kalinda> KTorrent doesnt do that for you?
[05:41] <dr_willis> !fstab
[05:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:41] <MilhousePunkRock> That's the reason why Windows is flooded with virii... Lack of restrictions...
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> root__: because windows does the same thing (everythign as admin) and see how well it works for them?
[05:41] <root__> MilhousePunkRock: if you dont install virii then you're safe, root or not, no?
[05:41] <kalinda> Also, I have a router.. which means it won't work unless I forward ports.. and yargh
[05:41] <root__> I've got an antivirus running, clamav I think
[05:42] <MilhousePunkRock> virii usually install themselves, using your root privileges...
[05:42] <kalinda> lol..  KTorrent has a plugin for ports
[05:42] <JavaByte> so if i put "/dev/hdc3       /media/hdc3     ntfs    defaults" in fstab it should be fine?
[05:42] <dr_willis>    My fstab entry for the NTFS drive -->      Your may vary.   /dev/hda5 /media/hda1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[05:43] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  that will mount it readable ONLY by root
[05:43] <dr_willis> the 'user' and 'users' option, as well as the 'umask' option may be needed - depending on what you want to do.
[05:43] <eeos_> is anyone there?
[05:43] <dr_willis> google proberly has<PHONE_NUMBER>0 entries/examples of mounting a ntfs under linux.
[05:43] <eeos_> kalinda: I lost connection
[05:44] <dr_willis> Its annying that ubuntu/kubuntu managed to goof it up. :)
[05:44] <eeos_> kalinda:I know where to find themes, but I need to install themes I already have
[05:44] <JavaByte> should i have root home swap or root user swap btw - i think i messed that up
[05:44] <eeos_> kalinda: I do not know how to start kde theme manager on kubuntu
[05:44] <eeos_> kalinda: or can you install them without using the theme manager?
[05:45] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I add something to "path"?
[05:45] <kalinda> eeos: Oh! That's easy!
[05:45] <kalinda> eeos: Darn, I cant PM you... but alright.. here we go then
[05:45] <JavaByte> i just need to read it, rw isn't needed as i'm only using it for media avi mp3 etc
[05:46] <kalinda> KMenu > System Settings
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: export PATH=$PATH:[some dir]
[05:46] <sensei> MilhousePunkRock: VARIABLE=path
[05:46] <kalinda> Appearance
[05:46] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  you dont want to write to a NTFS - its not very well supported and can trash the NTFS drive
[05:46] <MilhousePunkRock> I get this error when installing: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:46] <kalinda> erm.. okay.... I see what you mean. I believe you need KDM
[05:47] <MilhousePunkRock> So where are the X includes, I believe those have to be put in path, right?
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: if you want it to be permanent for you user then edit ~/.bash_profile, or /etc/profile to make it systemwide
[05:47] <kalinda> But I must ask, what do you mean by themes? Can I have a kde-look.org URL as an example? Because in Linux it has several things.. window doecorations, styles, colours, etc
[05:47] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: that would be a different type of path for includes.
[05:47] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  The ultumate NTFS mounting Under linux web site ---->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:47] <dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: are you sure you have them installed?
[05:48] <MilhousePunkRock> not at all, LeeJunFan
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[05:49] <eshed> I'M BACK :D
[05:49] <MilhousePunkRock> But: What I was trying to do was installing something, that's not in the depos yet, a newer version of some program I already have... I doubt it needs something new...
[05:49] <kalinda_99> *registers on freenode*
[05:49] <noipmixam> any1 can help out with my prob
[05:50] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: the one you already have installed come from the repos?
[05:50] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock, I tried copying the driver but when i did ..../gdm start, the screen was black and white and three weird consoles
[05:50] <kalinda_99> Actually, I cant.. brb..
[05:50] <kalinda_99> I'll be back in a little while
[05:50] <KDEfanboy> speaking of NTFS support, anyone tried the new ntfs-3g native GPL driver ? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> KDEfanboy: no, been waiting for you to screw up your system and tell us all how to do it right :p
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> KDEfanboy: actually I've been using captive for quite a while now (when needed) and haven't had need to try the new 3g yet.
[05:51] <dr_willis> Geeeeeee - love it when problems get asked in the form of riddlles... guess i just wont worry about it...
[05:52] <noipmixam> some1 hooked my laptop with an ACPI bug I think
[05:52] <noipmixam> whatever u call it
[05:53] <dr_willis> A lot of laptops have APCI bugs/issues/oddities. :)  I have several that have specific acpi features that dont work 100%
[05:53] <noipmixam> aka hibernate instead of shutting down
[05:54] <noipmixam> and its using its own device list so figure
[05:55] <MilhousePunkRock> LeeJunFan: Yeah, that was from the repos... It's KPowersave, I think in the repos is 6.0, but there is 6.02 already
[05:55] <MilhousePunkRock> That's what I am trying to configure make make install
[05:55] <JavaByte> so how do i set dr-xr-xr-x- with chmod ?
[05:56] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  theres several dozen web sites with chmod examples. :)
[05:56] <eshed> for some reason my SiS driver thing didnt work out :\
[05:56] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  what are ya chmoding?
[05:56] <JavaByte> hdc3
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: ah, that would be why you need new stuff then. When you are building an application it needs devel packages (includes, etc) to compile the application against certain libraries. When you install from a package (deb) it's already been compiled, so no includes are needed.
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, thx LeeJunFan
[05:57] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: what's up? :P
[05:57] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  you use the umask options.. like that web site said.
[05:57] <dr_willis> JavaByte,  The ultumate NTFS mounting Under linux web site ---->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:57] <JavaByte> cool :)
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: you'll probably run into a lot of those, you'll need kde libs devel as well. You should be able to search with adept to find the libs-dev you need.
[05:57] <dr_willis> Ya missed it the first time i pasted it eh? :P
[05:58] <MilhousePunkRock> seems like apt-get checked for dependencies... Lot of stuff new to install...
[05:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir
[05:58] <MilhousePunkRock> I turned off the transparency again, was just too slow... :-/
[05:59] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: as i said, turn off full window transparency and use it only for the windeco... makes it look a bit 'elegant' in my view :)
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Same error, LeeJunFan
[06:00] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, the transparency of Crystal is pseudo, goes straight to the wallpaper...
[06:01] <dr_willis> pseudo as in Fake. :P
[06:01] <mart> anyone know if "Jonathan Patrick Davies" is on irc? nick?
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, dr_willis
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: ah, the joys of compiling :) you should be able to check the config.log file in your build dir and see what it says it's missing.
[06:01] <dr_willis> Its just showing the wallpaper and changeing it on the fly. :)
[06:01] <dr_willis> Dynamic wallpaper changeing.
[06:02] <dr_willis> Ya wouldent belive the # of aruments/discussions ive seen on 'transparency' under linux.
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: perhaps you need to install also x11proto-core-dev
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: and libx11-dev
[06:04] <Lord_Athur> bye
[06:04] <eshed> is there a way to get to CTRL-ALT-Fx terminals without the keyboard shortcut? :0\
[06:05] <MilhousePunkRock> dr_willis: That's because Linux CAN...
[06:06] <dr_willis> of course the actual "USE" of transparent windows -- is the next big argumnt that always follows.
[06:06] <dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> then ya get into all sorts of gui discussion/debates/philospny.
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> dr_willis: old schooler.
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> dr_willis: :) I often don't even see the USE of windows at all, any of them, transparent or not.
[06:07] <dr_willis> Ya would think after 20+ years of 'research' and  ussage. we would have stuff pretty well figured out by now.
[06:07] <kalinda_99> Back now.. the person I was helping left, I think
[06:07] <dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  i tend to keep everything fullscreen and just alt-tab around.
[06:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Those two are already installed, LeeJunFan
[06:08] <eshed> MilhousePunkRock, it seems i cant use the CTRL-ALT-Fx thing. How can i get to that external terminal without that shortcut?
[06:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Look around on your graphical login screen, there should be an option to leave the window manager, eshed
[06:09] <JavaByte> so i need to unmount delete the fstab in order to remount with the correct umask?
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: hrm, not sure what's missing then. Chances are something other than x includes are missing but the error handling in the configure script isn't telling you the right thing, you may only be able to find out by looking at the config.log file and finding the actual spot where it errors out.  For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Do you think that it's listed somewhere what I need to compile it? I have compiled stuff before...
[06:10] <eshed> yes i tried that, MilhousePunkRock, but when i tried copying the drivers, when ireturned to the login screen it gave me a black-and-white screen with three terminals for some reason :-\
[06:10] <MilhousePunkRock> That's beyond my (in fact very limited) knowledge then, eshed, sorry...
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: different applications have different dependancies on libraries and include files. Chances are you've just never compiled anything that needs whatever library/include this app wants.
[06:11] <JavaByte> how do you unmount?
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> s/dependancies/dependencies
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> JavaByte: umount /media/hdc3
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> JavaByte: prolly want to prepend sudo to that
[06:11] <JavaByte> umount ??? as if another whole letter would have killed them :P
[06:11] <eshed> well np MilhousePunkRock, you've been great help either way :)
[06:12] <noipmixam> VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Controller
[06:12] <JavaByte> yeh you need sudo for all this
[06:12] <noipmixam> VESA(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
[06:12] <eshed> well i gonna try kfce now :) already tried gnome and kde... bbs
[06:13] <noipmixam> any clue about these ?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> Ah to be a young linux newbie again. I remember the days when I enjoyed trying all the 50 desktop environments.
[06:14] <JavaByte> yup that got it - umount then re- mount with the right mask, now to sort the fstab!
[06:14] <v3ctor> LeeJunFan: yup
[06:14] <noipmixam> yea
[06:14] <noipmixam> the problem is if I had the choice to use either linux or windows ... wouldnt be a prob
[06:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Someone needs to tell eshed that he needs x either way...
[06:14] <noipmixam> but im sorta force to use it
[06:15] <JavaByte> is the 8.16.26 ati driver compatible with kubuntu
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> That's what Microsoft WGA did with me, noipmixam... Forced me to use Linux... I don't regret it though...
[06:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to that error... What about me posting the config.log on a pastebin and you tell me what's wrong, LeeJunFan? :-)
[06:18] <noipmixam> yea but I cant tell if what im reading is accurate or fake helpfile
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> I can try. I'm cooking up some lunch now, but I'll be back in a couple mins.
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: go ahead and post it.
[06:23] <MilhousePunkRock> LeeJunFan: http://pastebin.ca/98540
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: apparently it failed including crt_externs.h, now to figure out what package includes that.
[06:28] <MilhousePunkRock> That sounds like an external CRT screen... I wouldn't need that anyway...
[06:33] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: just a sec.
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: install libxt-dev
[06:35] <meik> can sombody help me i seek for an 3d benchmark for linux do some one know a god util
[06:36] <kalinda> 3D benchmark?
[06:36] <meik> yes
[06:36] <kalinda> You mean like... an alternative to DirectX for games?
[06:36] <meik> mor than glxgear
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Done, thx LeeJunFan... BTW, would you recommend removing the packet I am going to "overwrite"?
[06:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Prior to make install that is...
[06:36] <zblach> hi
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: if you look at line 2127 of the pastebin you'll see your error.  Yeah i know
[06:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Found that, LeeJunFan... But how did you determine what was missing?
[06:39] <kalinda> but I know some stuff about Windows.. so it's easier for me to find Linux alternative to MS products
[06:39] <kalinda> BUT
[06:39] <kalinda> you might try
[06:39] <kalinda> www.linux.org/apps - if it works, it wasnt yesturday
[06:39] <kalinda> damn.. it isnt working for me anymore ><
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: the file was present on my system so it was easy to do dpkg-query -S Intrinsic.h and see what package put it there.
[06:40] <MilhousePunkRock> How many years are you on Linux already? :-)
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: I think 11
[06:40] <meik> k i try to find by myself wit google again cya
[06:41] <MilhousePunkRock> I did "apt-get remove kpowersave" now
[06:41] <MilhousePunkRock> But I wonder why it's still running...
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: the files are gone from your HD but the program is still running in memory.
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: right click the icon in the tasktray and quit it from there.
[06:43] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, I'll configure once again...
[06:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Done...
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> That prefix was for the target directory?
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> I got yet another error message...
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock> checking for libz... configure: error: not found.
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock>           Possibly configure picks up an outdated version
[06:44] <MilhousePunkRock>           installed by XFree86. Remove it from your system.
[06:45] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: yes, the prefix was where it was going to be put. you probably just need to install libz dev
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: apt-get install zlib1g-dev
[06:49] <timi> how do i enable universe repositories
[06:51] <kalinda> Oh
[06:51] <Hobbsee> !repos > timi
[06:51] <kalinda> That's easy
[06:51] <kalinda> !repos? is that a console command? lol
[06:52] <buz> no thats a ubotu command
[06:53] <kalinda> ohhh lol
[06:53] <kalinda> timi, are u still waiting for an answer?
[06:53] <kalinda> Are you using Adept?
[06:53] <buz> can someone comment on using widescreen monitors ?
[06:53] <kalinda> or Synaptic?
[06:53] <buz> does that work with all graphics cards?
[06:53] <timi> adept
[06:54] <timi> that thing said edit sources.list which is way above me, i did it once a long time ago with a bunch of help from someone
[06:55] <slim> please help, fresh kubuntu DVD install and i only get 4400 packages in adept... should i just install Synaptic? ps-i seleced twwo additional repos in Adept for univ and multivs :)
[06:56] <buz> slim: did you hit update in adept?
[06:56] <alex____> jion #ubuntu-cn
[06:56] <timi> kalinda you still ther
[06:56] <slim> it seems to update CONSTANTLY very irritating
[06:56] <TeePOG> hi
[06:56] <abattoir> timi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu has specific info
[06:56] <kalinda> timi, yes
[06:56] <kalinda> okay
[06:56] <buz> maybe it's still fetching updates
[06:56] <slim> i clicked apply in repo mgmnt :) buz
[06:57] <TeePOG> how do i get the 3D-enabled ATI drivers to work in Dapper?
[06:57] <kalinda> In Adept, go to... Settings > Manage Repos, I think
[06:57] <buz> ok then after that, click fetch updates
[06:57] <timi> k
[06:57] <slim> i have clicked "fetch updates" buz
[06:57] <slim> :)
[06:57] <kalinda> No, its Adept > Manage Repos
[06:57] <kalinda> but yeah
[06:57] <timi> yeah i found it
[06:57] <buz> and you still only have  4400 packages?
[06:58] <kalinda> Once u do, you're looking at your sources.list file
[06:58] <timi> ok
[06:58] <kalinda> Basically, right click on all the URLs and click enable
[06:58] <timi> ok
[06:58] <kalinda> all the ones you want anyway, you'll probly want mulktiverse for things like Flash and Java
[06:58] <kalinda> once your done,sday Apply
[06:58] <buz> any recommendations?
[06:59] <slim> buz > still waiting :)
[06:59] <kalinda> then go to Fetch Updates and it'll check your sources
[06:59] <kalinda> and hopefully it will all work
[06:59] <buz> slim: what connection you have?
[06:59] <buz> the update can download as much as 3-4mb
[06:59] <slim> buz > i think that did it but waiting for a total
[07:00] <timi> yep
[07:00] <slim> hispeed
[07:00] <timi> kalinda thanks
[07:00] <kalinda> NP
[07:00] <buz> weird really
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the packet name or Qt? LeeJunFan
[07:00] <slim> buz > i sure botched this one thanks, 18832 just like in synaptic :)
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> That's the next he asks for...
[07:00] <kalinda> Also, I suggest you get Synaptic.. because Adept is kind of.. crappy... and it likely won't work for installing Java
[07:00] <buz> ok
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: libqt3-mt-dev
[07:01] <buz> synaptic is crappy in its own way
[07:01] <slim> kalinda, i agree... no conflicts ?
[07:01] <buz> no
[07:01] <kalinda> conflicts?
[07:01] <eshed> Anyone knows a good room to get a bit more "professional" help regarding video drivers?
[07:01] <buz> aside of having to install some gnome stuff
[07:01] <draik> Hello everyone
[07:01] <kalinda> actually... if you want to install Synaptic, close Adept, open a Konsole and type apt-get install synaptic
[07:02] <kalinda> erm
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> This time it's gonna take a while, 20 MB
[07:02] <kalinda> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:02] <buz> you can do it in adept you know ;)
[07:02] <slim> kalinda--- no need to worry about one running over the other one? lol sounds silly in linux probaby
[07:02] <kalinda> hello, draik
[07:02] <buz> i wish ubuntu would use SMART
[07:02] <kalinda> Nope, no need.. I'm doing it just fine
[07:02] <buz> slim: as long as you wont run em at the same time
[07:02] <mariux> is cpuscaling kinda broken on kubuntu?
[07:02] <buz> (which can't work=
[07:02] <kalinda> Adept will still run updates for you, with its updater, but you can use Synaptic for everything
[07:02] <buz> mariux: works for me
[07:02] <slim> buz > smart?
[07:03] <mariux> yes for me to, but only barely
[07:03] <slim> !smart
[07:03] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[07:03] <kalinda> lol.. wow, that's nifty
[07:03] <mariux> ondemand doesnt always seem to behave correctly
[07:03] <slim> nice
[07:03] <slim> buz > how much have you used smart? any concerns? this machine is for my roomates father
[07:04] <timi> im needing to fix my resolution, and i did this before w/ kubuntu but i did a reinstall and got rid of windows completely
[07:04] <buz> slim: not much
[07:04] <buz> for standard use adept is ok
[07:04] <timi> i used the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[07:04] <timi> but now it says xserver.xorg is not installed
[07:04] <kalinda> okay
[07:04] <kalinda> whats ur current res?
[07:04] <buz> slim: is that the first time you setup linux for a normal user? i want to do that for my gf's father
[07:04] <timi> 1024x768
[07:05] <timi> i have a widescreen and i need 1440x900
[07:05] <kalinda> Because you should be able to go to System Settings > Display and then go to hardware and make sure your moitor and vid card are selected
[07:05] <dr_willis> !fixres
[07:05] <slim> buz > would still like to have synaptic for him, i have no probs... is this ok ? or any reason that keep it simple should apply here?
[07:05] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:05] <buz> timi: what graphics card you have
[07:05] <toby> I would like to upgrade kubuntu breezy to kubuntu dapper, but I can only find the sources.list for ubuntu, not kubuntu.
[07:05] <kalinda> if not, then pick a generic one.. also make sure to tell it your monitor is 16:9 and not 4:3
[07:05] <timi> integrated i816
[07:05] <toby> Where is the sources.list for kubuntu dapper please?
[07:05] <buz> slim keep it simple for most users
[07:05] <timi> yeah this worked before when i just restarted x
[07:05] <buz> give him adept_installer ;)
[07:05] <timi> err when i reconfigu red it
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> LeeJunFan: Now that I put the prefix there, do I have to cd there to do make make install?
[07:06] <slim> buz > second time so far on installing for another > am going to be mainstreaming linux for anyone who is interested :)
[07:06] <dr_willis> !easysource
[07:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:06] <kalinda> Changing stuff in the Display requires restarting X
[07:06] <timi> i installed 915resolution and it showed the correct avalable
[07:06] <kalinda> So you got it?
[07:06] <slim> buz > i respect that and thanks again... going to tackle sun java :)
[07:06] <timi> shouldnt this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[07:06] <LeeJunFan> MilhousePunkRock: no, you do the 'make && sudo make install' from the source dir where you run configure
[07:06] <dr_willis> well with the right drivers/setup -  X can change its res on the fly. but it has to be set up correctly to allow it. :)
[07:06] <timi> manually let me set up xserver
[07:06] <dr_willis> xserver.org  - is TOTALLY wrong.
[07:06] <dr_willis> thats not the right name for the package
[07:06] <kalinda> lol.. I'm not sure... I don't know anything about... everything
[07:07] <timi> hmm ok
[07:07] <kalinda> I got my monitor problesm solved through Control Center > Display > Hardware > Picking a generic 1024x768 monitor
[07:07] <dr_willis> !fixres
[07:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:07] <timi> it cool
[07:07] <timi> i got it
[07:07] <timi> i had xserver.xorg
[07:07] <timi> its -xorg
[07:07] <dr_willis> :)
[07:07] <dr_willis> that was what i was going to say.
[07:07] <kalinda> Sweet, i'll remember that
[07:08] <toby> ubotu: Thanks - that site seems to only generate ubuntu sources (e.g. deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted)
[07:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about Thanks - that site seems to only generate ubuntu sources (e.g. deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:08] <toby> ubotu: what about kubuntu?
[07:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about what about kubuntu? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:09] <toby> Ah, I see ubotu is a bot!
[07:10] <toby> Can anyone else please advise where to get a dapper kubuntu sources.list for upgrade?
[07:11] <trappist> toby: sudo perl -pi -e 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list should fix you up, but back up your sources.list first
[07:12] <draik> Is anyone having slow connection with the downloads from Adept?
[07:12] <toby> Yes, I tried that to begin with, but when i did an apt-update it barfed on a few unofficial repositories. I do not know which are official and which I have added myself.
[07:13] <eshed> anyone knows a command to display my current screen refresh rate (in terminal inside the gui)
[07:13] <toby> I would love a fresh clean sources.list but cannot find one anywhere which isn't ubuntu-specific
[07:13] <pussfeller> man wahts the keystroke to make the file menu appear again in kopete chat window???
[07:14] <mariux> ctrl m?
[07:14] <pussfeller> thats it thanks :)
[07:16] <timi> you know when you click on a link in this think it like loads then opens
[07:16] <timi> how do you make it just open the link in firefox, or is that some kind of security feature
[07:17] <draik> timi...
[07:17] <draik> I just changed that in my options
[07:17] <timi> draik
[07:18] <timi> just send me everything
[07:18] <timi> cuz i cant send it back im unregistered i gues
[07:18] <toby> Is it safe to use the ubuntu sources.list to upgrade my kubuntu to dapper? Perhaps that's why I can't find a Kubuntu-specific one.
[07:18] <wolfpaw> hiho
[07:18] <eshed> can anyone help me with this? http://img200.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotjl3.png
[07:19] <draik> Click on Settings.... Configure Konversation... Under Behavior option... General subtopic... Miscellaneous box... Check box for "Use custom Web Browser"
[07:19] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ around?
[07:19] <draik> should be set to firefox as default... that's what I had/have
[07:19] <draik> timi let me know if that works for you
[07:20] <toby> ubotu:
[07:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu: - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:21] <timi> worked
[07:21] <timi> thanks
[07:21] <draik> you're welcome timi
[07:22] <timi> draik
[07:22] <timi> it opens in firefox
[07:23] <timi> but it has file//home/me/ in front of the url
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> LeeJunFan: It gives me yet another error:
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[07:23] <MilhousePunkRock> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[07:23] <timi> then it cant find the website, why is this
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Sorry for the flood btw
[07:24] <draik> timi, clean it up. keep only the URL part... and also the apostrophe at the end of the address
[07:25] <timi> under konversation setting write
[07:25] <timi> right*
[07:26] <draik> timi, just go back to where you have your settings for firefox and be sure it ONLY SAYS 'FIREFOX'
[07:26] <draik> remove the rest of the commands after it
[07:26] <draik> **commands -> options**
[07:27] <timi> ok
[07:27] <draik> timi did it work?
[07:27] <timi> about to check
[07:27] <timi> yep
[07:27] <timi> thanks
[07:27] <draik> perfect... you're welcome
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> Still there LeeJunFan?
[07:29] <rocketman768> so, upgraded from breezy to dapper via apt-get. The system now "fails" when trying to start up pcmcia services. The fix posted on the wiki does nothing. What is wrong?
[07:29] <rr72> Mon Jul 24 12:29:29 CDT 2006
[07:29] <rr72> *afternooon
[07:31] <draik> *morning
[07:32] <slim> i must dash, gl evry1 and God bless you
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Good evening gatekeeper... It's evening here too... :-)
[07:33] <rocketman768> pcmcia anyone?
[07:33] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock, how are you doing?
[07:33] <dr_willis> wowsers... AMD is buying out ATI. :()
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I could do better, if I could complie KPowersave, but thx for asking gatekeeper
[07:35] <gatekeeper> dr_willis, is that good, bad or indifferent for linux users, what do you reckon?
[07:35] <rr72> dr_willis~ SUP!!!!?!?!?!?!
[07:35] <gatekeeper> MilhousePunkRock, what problems are you having with it?
[07:36] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  no idea.. it means that ATI may actually start supporting Linux better.
[07:36] <dr_willis> We can always hope
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> That's not too good for gamers, I suppose... Since AMD are _the_ game CPUs, but ATI aren't the vid cards of choice...
[07:36] <timi> anyone know how i can get the wifi connected at startup
[07:36] <rr72> gatekeeper~ care to ask me how im doing?
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Have had various problems with missing libs, now finally this --> http://pastebin.ca/98617
[07:36] <dr_willis> Ive given up on the 'for gamers' mentality. :P
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, timi
[07:36] <gatekeeper> dr_willis, if you are right then that is good, presumable couldn't get worse
[07:36] <rr72> LeeJunFan~ my plan of attack is to get rid of all nvidia and install by hand
[07:36] <dr_willis> I stick the the midstream systems and  buy games when they are in the bargin bins.
[07:37] <dr_willis> gatekeeper,  :P yep.. will be interesting.
[07:37] <timi> aight millhouse you gotta link, or are you the man
[07:37] <dr_willis> ATI does a Lot of things ya dont hear about as well.
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> just add auto to your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:37] <dr_willis> They aint just a 'video card' company.
[07:37] <gatekeeper> rr72, ok how are you doing? (knows this is a leading question :-) )
[07:37] <timi> jeez im very new to this
[07:37] <timi> how do i do that
[07:37] <rr72> lets see i just got back from a cruise in hawaii and i found out that kdm is giving me signal 11 :(
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> You know how to open a console, do you, timi?
[07:38] <rr72> other then the 9 hour plane ride and jet lag im not too bad
[07:38] <timi> yeah
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> then type "sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces"
[07:38] <rr72> lol just use vi
[07:39] <gatekeeper> rr72, pay back for not takng your linux box with you :-)
[07:39] <rr72> or nano
[07:39] <rr72> gate on a cruise?
[07:39] <timi> ok yeah iit opned kate
[07:39] <timi> auto wlan0 is on
[07:39] <timi> i was wondering how i could make it auto connect
[07:39] <timi> like the wireless assisstant
[07:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh... Does it seem to connect but fails to get DHCP?
[07:39] <rr72> if its major editing i used to use kate but if it is a few lines i just use vi but now its all vi since kdm is sig11
[07:40] <tommy2k4> what do i need to do to be able to login again after formatting /home
[07:40] <tommy2k4> it says kstartupconfig could not start
[07:40] <angie> hello
[07:40] <tommy2k4> failsafe session gives a few dcopserver errors then shows me a konsole
[07:40] <timi> no i have to open wireless assistant and then connect to my home wireless network
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> you could try adding "pre-up sleep 5" to the bottom of your wlan0 section, timi
[07:40] <angie> does anyone know i can get into ukchat
[07:41] <timi> i was just wondering it could just autojoin the first network like windows does
[07:41] <MilhousePunkRock> auto did the job for me... Maybe the DHCP stuff is too fast...
[07:41] <timi> ok
[07:41] <timi> welll its no biggie
[07:41] <timi> i was just wondering
[07:41] <angie> can any1 even see this
[07:42] <MilhousePunkRock> there is no # in front of auto... is it?
[07:42] <MilhousePunkRock> What's ukchat, angie?
[07:42] <angie> its a chroom  site
[07:42] <rr72> if u change it u need to safe the file and change the run level
[07:43] <MilhousePunkRock> what's a chroom site? I know chrome, but what's chroom?
[07:43] <angie> but i think i need java and i dont know how
[07:43] <gatekeeper> tommy2k4, may be try reinstalling kde desktop
[07:43] <tommy2k4> what package name
[07:43] <angie> ukchat
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> try looking for java in adept maybe, angie?
[07:45] <angie> i know i might seem a bit blonde here but could you tell me how to do that im sorry
[07:45] <gatekeeper> tommy2k4, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_KDE
[07:46] <tommy2k4> is there a CLI irc client lol
[07:46] <tchough> hey, has anyone been having problems with not being able to start ksysguardd because of permissions on /var/run/?
[07:47] <angie> lol
[07:47] <trappist> tommy2k4: irssi and BitchX... and xchat-text
[07:47] <trappist> tommy2k4: I use irssi
[07:47] <tommy2k4> k
[07:47] <tommy2k4> brb
[07:47] <angie> im lost now is there a link for it
[07:48] <dr_willis> sirc :)
[07:48] <aliasfred> ircII :)
[07:48] <dr_willis> ircii :)
[07:48] <dr_willis> the good old days
[07:48] <dr_willis> i rember when it was 'irc'  not ircii
[07:48] <johan_> Hi room
[07:49] <trappist> channel.
[07:49] <KDEfanboy> heh
[07:50] <johan_> Can someone help me? I just installed Kubuntu 6.06, but I can't find the drivers for my printer, a canon Pixma IP2200, Can someone help?
[07:51] <draik> johan_, have you tried on their website?
[07:51] <dr_willis> johan_,  I got a Canon Pixma ip6600 - and guess what.. canon wont release specs for it.. check cups.org for details - that printer may NOT be supported at all.
[07:52] <trappist> johan_: it's supported by turboprint: http://www.turboprint.info/
[07:52] <timi> how do i get flash player in firefox
[07:52] <trappist> note: turboprint is not free
[07:52] <johan_> Dr_Willis: Thx for the info, It's to bad.... :(
[07:52] <dr_willis> http://www.google.com/search?q=+Pixma+IP2200+linux&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
[07:52] <dr_willis> several forums about that printer.
[07:53] <draik> timi
[07:53] <timi> i tried sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla but it dint work
[07:53] <dr_willis> I dont think turboprinmt supports my 6600 :()
[07:53] <timi> im listening
[07:53] <draik> Go to this link... one sec...
[07:53] <serialzkiller> lol everything is for free on the net you just have 2 look closer
[07:53] <dr_willis> What proberly will happen is that in a year or so - the driver will move out of the 'turboprint' and into the normal CUPS drivers.
[07:54] <trappist> dr_willis: it supports other 6000 series printers, so it may work, but it's not specifically supported
[07:54] <dr_willis> http://software.canon-europe.com/software/canon_print_filter_for_linuxs24301.asp?model=
[07:54] <dr_willis> mentiosn that printer
[07:54] <draik> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[07:54] <dr_willis> so you may be in luck.
[07:54] <gatekeeper> timi, this works because this is what i did: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[07:54] <draik> Click on that and you will get the source that you will need
[07:54] <dr_willis> work time for me.. byeee
[07:54] <timi> k
[07:56] <timi> gatekeeper
[07:56] <timi> i enabled multiverse and universe and i still cant apt-get that?
[07:56] <timi> is there somother repository i need to enable
[07:56] <Mnabil> hello , how can change the screen resoultion in KDE ?!
[07:57] <Hawkwind> !screenres
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about screenres - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:57] <Hawkwind> !res
[07:57] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:01] <rocketman768> Mnabil, you need to edit your xorg.conf file. Search for it on google.
[08:06] <Ace2005> Hi all
[08:06] <charlie5> to make more swap space, do i just create a new swap partition anywhere on hardrive and kubu will pick it up and start using it ?
[08:06] <charlie5> hi Ace2005 :)
[08:07] <Ace2005> charlie5: hi
[08:07] <aliasfred> charlie5: you need to explicitly tell ubuntu to do it
[08:08] <ChefWill> !swapsaq
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about swapsaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <ChefWill> er
[08:08] <ChefWill> !swapfaq
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about swapfaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <ChefWill> charlie5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[08:08] <admiral_proFTW> is there a way to password protect one folder
[08:08] <aliasfred> :))
[08:08] <admiral_proFTW> (pron joke here)
[08:08] <ChefWill> charlie5: see step 6
[08:08] <charlie5> aliasfred: ah, ok, thamks ... i've just found section in systems settings for it i think
[08:08] <Ace2005> Does anyone know what i can use to make swf files for splashy apart from Macromedia Flash which i don't have
[08:09] <aliasfred> charlie5: the link from ChefWill were for you
[08:09] <charlie5> ChefWill: thanks ... that will probably answer my next few q's :)
[08:10] <aliasfred> !SwapFaq
[08:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about SwapFaq - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:10] <aliasfred> ok i dont get it :)
[08:10] <Ace2005> oh and i now also want to knwo how to password protect a folder too
[08:12] <rr72> Ace2005~ just change the permissions so that only the owner can veiw and modify
[08:12] <paxman> hi, does anybody now if you can install freevo on kubuntu LTS
[08:13] <Tommy2k4> how can i login to kde again after formatting /home
[08:13] <galorin> paxman, I don't know about freevo, but I've used kubuntu as the base for Mythtv
[08:13] <Tommy2k4> im in failsafe mode now
[08:14] <Tommy2k4> kde session gives error saying kstartupconfig cannt be started
[08:14] <aliasfred> Tommy2k4: recreate the users
[08:14] <paxman> galorin, is there a package ? or from source ?
[08:14] <Tommy2k4> how?
[08:14] <secleinteer> hey, does any1 know how to make app buttons in the taskbar automatically open apps in maximize mode instead of restore mode?
[08:15] <timi> wht does it mean when it says it cant find a package you know exists
[08:15] <galorin> paxman, there is a package, but firewire is broken, and it's an older version in tre repos.  I can give you a link to a good site for setting up Mythtv if you like
[08:15] <Tommy2k4> timi u need to enable the proper repos
[08:15] <Ace2005> timi: it means you could be wrong or you're searching using the wrong name
[08:16] <paxman> yes if u can
[08:16] <timi> ive enabled every repository
[08:16] <Tommy2k4> how do i recreate the users after reformatting /home
[08:16] <Tommy2k4> timi try !info packagename in this channel
[08:16] <timi> im trying to get flash, and acrode at stuff
[08:16] <Shinzetsu> Ive got a Minimize Window-thingy stuck on my screen
[08:16] <Ace2005> timi: tried automatix?
[08:17] <timi> no
[08:17] <Shinzetsu> text bubble
[08:17] <Ace2005> or easyubuntu?
[08:17] <timi> is it better to use automatix
[08:17] <timi> isntead of doing it manually
[08:18] <Ace2005> timi: i just found it easier to tick some boxes and watch it do the work
[08:18] <galorin> paxman, one moment.  This is the one I used:  http://www.abarbaccia.com/   Oh, have you got TV tuner card in your box?
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> automatix often breaks things - doing it manually is best
[08:18] <timi> well i installed firefox and 915resolution adn gimp using apt-get
[08:19] <timi> ive enabled multiverse and universe
[08:19] <galorin> Oh, if you decide to go with Mythtv, head on over to #mythtv-users.. as #mythtv is a dev-only room.
[08:19] <timi> wht else is ther to enable, im doing it exactly the way ubuntu guide is telling me too
[08:19] <paxman> there is one - not sure if its picked up though - but will look at site - thanks
[08:19] <galorin> paxman, which card is it?
[08:20] <paxman> flyvideo 3000
[08:20] <paxman> galorin, do u know of any other software simillar to freevo ?
[08:21] <galorin> paxman, never heard of it.. I guess the most important thing is the chipset.
[08:21] <galorin> paxman, just a moment on thaat one..
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> timi: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozilla-acroread
[08:23] <Ace2005> timi: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" should work
[08:23] <timi> cant find the package
[08:23] <timi> do i need upgrade first
[08:23] <timi> i have all the respositories enabled
[08:24] <galorin> paxman, there were others, but a quick google, and it looks like most of the other Linux PVR alternatives aren't in active development anymore.
[08:24] <Tommy2k4> how can i login to kde again after formatting /home
[08:25] <cotroler> i have kubuntu 5.10 can I update to version 6.06 ?
[08:25] <paxman> galorin, thanks - i'll try setup from source ( freevo ) but it looks daunting .. good site on mythtv
[08:27] <cotroler> I am using Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) how do I update to the newly released version 6.06 ?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[08:28] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:28] <galorin> paxman, when my in-law wanted a PVR I looked at both, and Myth seemed to be more mature, and offered what he wanted.. you might have different requirements though.
[08:28] <cotroler> tnx gnomefreak
[08:28] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:29] <Ace2005> I just realised i have a problem with flash, konqueror and firefox have different versions, konqueror and opera: <IP_ADDRESS> firefox: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:30] <Ace2005> how do i get firefox to use the new one
[08:36] <timi> you know how ubuntu has a desktop hide button
[08:36] <timi> does kubuntu have a desktop hide button
[08:37] <timi> so you can clear everything thats on the desktop
[08:38] <paxman> galorin, can mythtv play mp3 and dvds ?
[08:38] <galorin> timi, yes, it does.
[08:38] <galorin> paxman, yes, it can.
[08:38] <RobMongoose> timi - right click your menu panel and click add applet to panel - the butoon you're after should be in there
[08:38] <paxman> galorin, oh ok - i thought mythtv was only for TV
[08:38] <galorin> paxman, for both you need the appropriate libraries first.
[08:39] <galorin> paxman, nope, mythtv also has frontends for web, weather, video library, photo library... umm, MAME and other console emulators.. loads of stuff.
[08:41] <paxman> galorin, so its basically same then - i had read blog somewhere that was probably misleading - what did u setup for control - remote ?
[08:42] <galorin> paxman, wireless keyboard (nifty laptop-like thing with touchpad for a mouse) and a remote.
[08:42] <galorin> paxman, blogs aren't the most reliable sources...
[08:43] <Ademan> is there a program that will verify a cd's integrity (like, compare it to an iso?) other than k3b?
[08:43] <galorin> used the ATI remote wonder, the earlier version of the remote, that was just a keyboard extension, no worries about LIRC
[08:43] <paxman> galorin, i know but from name - i also assumed its more just tv recording
[08:43] <timi> what are the security repositories good for
[08:44] <uniq> timi: not by default, but you can add it yourself. right click on the panel and add panel program.. find it in the list.
[08:44] <uniq> timi: security updates.
[08:44] <timi> thansk igot it
[08:44] <galorin> paxman, tv recording is what it does best, and how it started, but as it's grown, they folded stuff in.
[08:44] <timi> ok so i should enable them then right
[08:44] <uniq> yes.
[08:44] <timi> ok
[08:44] <Tommy2k4> i cant login after i reformatted /home it says xstartupconfig could not be started
[08:44] <Tommy2k4> what do i need to od
[08:45] <galorin> Tommy2k4, does each user have their own directory in /home?
[08:45] <Tommy2k4> only 1 user and i used mkdir to make the directory which may of been abad idea?
[08:46] <paxman> galorin, thanks i'll give it a try, freevo looks a bit to hard to install and there does not seem to be too much info on web - unless u use debian and not in the mood for that
[08:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: does the user own the directory you created? or does root own it?
[08:46] <Tommy2k4> how do i check from konsole
[08:46] <uniq> tommy2k4: 'ls -lah /home'
[08:46] <admiral_proFTW> cd /home
[08:46] <admiral_proFTW> dir
[08:47] <galorin> paxman, most of the stuff for Deb will work for kubuntu.. to some extent.
[08:47] <Tommy2k4> owned by root
[08:47] <galorin> paxman, neither is a walk in the park, but mythtv is fairly straightforward.
[08:48] <uniq> tommy2k4: then chown it to your user. 'sudo chown username.username -R /home/userdir'
[08:48] <timi> you know in windows wnen you hit cntrl+alt+delete and the process manager or w/e comes up, whts the kde equivalent of that and how do you get to it
[08:48] <||Trayer||> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <paxman> galorin, ya but its got some issues with python version and has a million depencies - and i couldn't find a package they all seem like older versions
[08:48] <uniq> timi: ctrl+esc
[08:48] <galorin> paxman, Ah, I see.. that could slow things down a bit LOL.
[08:48] <Tommy2k4> ty uniq time to test
[08:49] <admiral_proFTW> timi, i think you can also edit the command from the K menu
[08:49] <admiral_proFTW> or rather, the shortcut
[08:49] <Tommy2k4> ty uniq time to test
[08:49] <paxman> galrin, they should be releasing freevo version 2 sometime soon, so i'll try mythtv for now.
[08:51] <galorin> paxman, All things considered, freevo would still give you python headaches if they insist on building against latest & greatest.
[08:51] <tommy> ty uniq :D
[08:52] <GBoS> <3
[08:52] <tommy> <3
[08:53] <navin> hi there folks!!
[08:53] <navin> anyone's tried SGL on Kubuntu?
[08:55] <Ace2005> nope sgl isn't out yet, i don't think the devs have started on that yet
[08:55] <paxman> galorin, if mythtv works - i'll keep it - had enough of python for a while ..
[08:55] <galorin> paxman, follow the link I gave you, and you should be fine.. and don't be afraid to hit #mythtv-users and google.
[08:57] <paxman> galorin, sorry - what is Monolith Media Center about ? is that prepacked deal or something ?
[08:58] <galorin> paxman, yep.  you buy a pre-built box, with Myth pre-installed.  If I ever have to set up a mythbox for a paying client, I'm ordering one of them.
[08:58] <galorin> saves my hassle.
[08:59] <paxman> galorin, LOL how long it take to setup ?
[09:00] <Desh> Hi, I have an nforce3 motherboard, but I would like to know the socket it uses, or at least the exact version so I can look that up. How would I do this on Kubuntu?
[09:00] <galorin> paxman, a couple hours, compiling, installing, and editing configs.  Then a couple months making it work right for my perfectionist brother-in-law that no electronic device has ever worked for.
[09:01] <galorin> I had his mythtv box running for 2 weeks solid, under heavy use before I gave it to him.  He crashed it within an hour.
[09:02] <galorin> and I mean 2 weeks without so much as a ctl+alt+backspace
[09:02] <paxman> galorin, LOL well this ones for me - want to show friend who just bought MS media center setup - cost him a fortune
[09:02] <navin> oops!!! i meant XGL
[09:02] <navin> anyone's tried XGL yet?
[09:02] <navin> on Kubuntu?
[09:03] <navin> could someone direct me to the appropiate how-to?
[09:03] <Tommy2k4> !xgl
[09:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:04] <galorin> paxman, I'm thinking of grabbing a tv tuner card myself and dropping it in my server.  Just to show him that it does work without problems
[09:04] <navin> Thanks a lot Ubotu!!
[09:05] <timi> how do i edit my xmodmap
[09:05] <timi> sudo kate xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[09:06] <paxman> galorin, maybe make a setup ( mythtv ) in virtual pc - xen ?
[09:06] <timi> is that what  i do, im trying assign some extra buttons
[09:07] <Hawkwind> timi: kdesu kwrite <file>
[09:07] <galorin> I'm not sure how xen would handle the PCI interrupts, since it needs to pull a lot of data off the tuner card... Maybe ask in #mythtv-users.  I've been meaning to try xen for a while...
[09:07] <Hawkwind> Replace kwrite with your favorite editor, and <file> with the name of the file you want to edit
[09:09] <eshed>  i can't install SiS650 graphics driver for linux ... nothing works D: i found the driver and tried more drivers, but nothing works...!
[09:10] <paxman> galorin, ya might be tick with tv card but the rest should work - tried xen on SUSE havn't tried on ubuntu yet - on amd64 dual
[09:10] <timi> wht is ksplash
[09:10] <galorin> paxman, nice.  If xen works, with that much horsepower, if you've got some spare low-end comps, look into LTSP as well.
[09:10] <timi> !ksplash
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about ksplash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:11] <kOpter> Yello :) I've got a question: How can I change the font of the firefox toolbar?
[09:11] <kOpter> It's not changing when I change my KDE settings
[09:11] <Hawkwind> kOpter: There is an option to change GTK fonts or use QT style fonts where GTK is or something in kcontrol
[09:11] <paxman> galorin, but was dissapointed coz i found out my cpu couldn't support proper virtuliztion and i thought it could - its a socket 939 and not AM2
[09:12] <Hawkwind> kOpter: kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> GTK styles & fonts
[09:12] <galorin> paxman, ah... As I said, I've thought about trying out xen, but haven't yet.. plus no cause to need it as yet
[09:13] <kOpter> Hawkwind : Why is it always that simple :)?
[09:13] <Hawkwind> kOpter: Heh
[09:14] <kOpter> Hawkwind : Now to get me tahoma :)
[09:14] <Ace2005> has anyone here tried to compile firefox with qt?
[09:15] <galorin> paxman, and here I am, not able to remember what socket my mobo uses...
[09:15] <kOpter> No! The ubuntuforums are down :(
[09:16] <kOpter> Thank god for google cache :)
[09:16] <timi> can somone help me get pdf flash etc, i ve addd everypossible repositiory, updated, upgraded, and i still cant apt-get like the wiki says i should be able to
[09:17] <paxman> galorin, well i found out the hard way - coz when i was buying chip thought it would support .. for xen..
[09:17] <kOpter> timi > Did you do an apt-get update ?
[09:17] <timi> i did an upgrade?
[09:17] <timi> im updating now
[09:18] <kOpter> Well if you set new repositories to your sources, you need to get a list of what's in them.. you do that by updating
[09:18] <timi> ok
[09:18] <galorin> paxman, ouch.. that's gotta hurt the wallet a bit...  Next time my motherboard dies, I'll have to look at an AM2 board.  I've got one of the earlier boards, don't think it'll even take dual-core chips.
[09:18] <kOpter> timi > If you have enabled the right repositories, it should then be able to find flash
[09:19] <kOpter> timi > You're looking for flashplugin-nonfree
[09:19] <timi> yeah i enabled multiverse and universe
[09:19] <timi> yes
[09:19] <timi> it showing the repositories in the update and they are enabled in adept
[09:20] <timi> i was able to apt get firefox and 915resolution no problem, and gimp
[09:21] <timi> cant find the package
[09:22] <draik_> navin I tried XGL
[09:22] <kOpter> timi > Open a konsole and type: apt-cache search flashplugin
[09:22] <draik_> Complications so I deleted it and kept it simple with KDE
[09:23] <paxman> galorin, ya but i needed a new computer anyway was getting a dual anyway - so thought i could look at xen aswell - no real need just out of intrest
[09:24] <Ace2005> timi: Go here and get the deb and install it http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/
[09:24] <Ace2005> timi: get  flashplugin-nonfree_<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[09:24] <kOpter> Acre2005 : Why use the deb When it's in multiverse?
[09:25] <timi> hey i found something in adept
[09:25] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with my Kubuntu Dapper
[09:25] <bobbyyu> I mean Adept
[09:25] <timi> libflash-mozplugin
[09:25] <timi> is that it
[09:25] <timi> maybe
[09:25] <admiral_proFTW> bobbyyu, what is it?
[09:26] <kOpter> timi > I think you haven't enabled multiverse or you haven't updated..
[09:26] <draik> I have a bit of a printer sharing issue
[09:26] <bobbyyu> When it installs, it keeps saying "There was an error commiting changes. There was probably a problem downloading some packages or else the commit would break packages."
[09:26] <draik> I was sharing my printer from my laptop to my dekstop...
[09:26] <timi> ive def. done both
[09:27] <timi>  just installed libflash-mozplugin
[09:27] <timi> im going to see if it works
[09:27] <draik> and my desktop was on windoze
[09:27] <kOpter> timi > Can you run a: sudo apt-get update ?
[09:27] <draik> now I dual boot Kubuntu with windoze
[09:27] <draik> Anyone know how to get Kubuntu to share the printer?
[09:27] <kOpter> timi > Just to be sure :) Does it say dapper/multiversie there?
[09:27] <timi> yeah i already did
[09:28] <timi> and it did say that
[09:28] <draik> Oh, and Kubuntu has the drivers installed for using the Printer
[09:28] <admiral_proFTW> !print
[09:28] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:28] <kOpter> timi> And the apt-get search flashplugin still gives you nothing?
[09:28] <admiral_proFTW> draik, something like that?
[09:28] <draik> Thank you admiral_proFTW
[09:28] <draik> That's what I was looking for
[09:28] <timi> yeah nothing
[09:28] <kOpter> !chuck
[09:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about chuck - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:28] <timi> apt get search?
[09:28] <timi> like in console
[09:29] <timi> or just search in adept
[09:29] <admiral_proFTW> dammit, apt-get is being silly
[09:29] <kOpter> Yep
[09:29] <sensei> Norris <3
[09:29] <admiral_proFTW> i do a sudo apt-get update
[09:29] <admiral_proFTW> and it returns some hits
[09:29] <admiral_proFTW> and got stuck on some headers
[09:29] <bobbyyu> Has anybody gotten the same error as I did?
[09:29] <galorin> paxman, I've been toying with vmware-player, and I keep DamnSmallLinux tucked away, and bring that up in qemu on occasion.
[09:29] <timi> search is an invalid command
[09:30] <admiral_proFTW> bobbyyu, i dunno, I never had that happen
[09:30] <kOpter> timi> Sorry apt-cache search flashplugin
[09:30] <draik> THANK YOU admiral_proFTW!!! THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!!! PERFECT!!!
[09:30] <markc_> is it possible that the current offline issue with some ubuntu servers is releated to this issue ? -> http://lwn.net/Articles/191417/
[09:30] <admiral_proFTW> draik, awesome
[09:31] <timi> nothing happens
[09:31] <admiral_proFTW> btw, when you have a problem, you can do a ![something]  and one of the bots can help
[09:31] <admiral_proFTW> !samba
[09:31] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:31] <admiral_proFTW> draik, like that
[09:32] <kOpter> ~chuck
[09:32] <bobbyyu> Adept is full of problems!
[09:34] <kOpter> !defoma-font
[09:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about defoma-font - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:34] <kOpter> !defoma
[09:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about defoma - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:35] <draik> admiral_proFTW > Yup. That will definitely work for me. Thank you for your help... Cross your nodes and hope it works
[09:36] <timi> kOpter this is wht i get
[09:36] <timi> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages
[09:36] <timi> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Packages
[09:36] <Ace2005> timi: why don't you just get it from here, its the same thing the repos give you: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/
[09:36] <kOpter> Ace2005 > No, becaus then he will not get automatic updates
[09:36] <kOpter> timi > You're using the backports.. why?
[09:37] <timi> im wht
[09:37] <paxman> galorin, i installed debian today ( first time ) to try freevo - its amazing how far ubuntu has come in such a short time
[09:37] <timi> i just copied text from konsonle
[09:37] <Ace2005> kOpter: with the frequencey of the flash updates that wouldn't be such a concern
[09:37] <kOpter> timi > You are searching trough the dapper-backports packages
[09:37] <timi> that was from update
[09:37] <timi> apt-get update
[09:37] <timi> what line should i be looking of for again
[09:37] <rocketman768> anybody, where can i get a deb package for mkinitrd?
[09:38] <kOpter> timi > I understand.. is there a line there that reads http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[09:38] <timi> no
[09:38] <kOpter> timi > You need that :)
[09:38] <timi> alright how do i add that
[09:38] <galorin> paxman, I'm running debian on my webserver.  This is my first foray into (k)ubuntu.  Been a Slacker for the past 3 years
[09:38] <markc_> rocketman768: dpkg -S mkinitrd
[09:38] <kOpter> timi > Do you know hoe to change repositories in Adept?
[09:38] <timi> yes
[09:39] <kOpter> timi > Okay, just remove al the -backports :)
[09:39] <kOpter> timi > Then update.. and then look for the flashplugin
[09:39] <timi> ok
[09:39] <rocketman768> markc_: thanks
[09:39] <kOpter> Ace2005> Yes I understand that.. but would timi?
[09:40] <markc_> rocketman768: or apt-cache search mkinitrd if you don't think it's already onboard
[09:40] <galorin> paxman, before that, Mandrake.
[09:40] <timi> i still havent enbaled anything called multiverse
[09:40] <timi> do i need to edit the universe line to have it read universe multiverse
[09:41] <kOpter> timi > It has to say dapper universe multiverse
[09:41] <timi> ok mine just said universe
[09:41] <timi> so i just need to edit that line
[09:41] <timi> i assume
[09:41] <kOpter> timi > Yeah.. i'll double check for you..
[09:42] <Ace2005> timi:  how about you just get a new sources list http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:42] <markc_> fwiw this is a good alias for checking locally installed deb packages -> alias lsd='dpkg --get-selections | awk "{print \$1}" | sort | grep'
[09:42] <Chousuke> lsd. :D
[09:42] <markc_> list debs
[09:42] <kOpter> timi > universe multiverse should work
[09:43] <markc_> lsd . (to show all installed debs)
[09:43] <kOpter> timi > Then fetch updates
[09:43] <paxman> galorin, debbian must be good but i didn't have time to start configuring everything - starting at network card - on kubuntu using wireless with no problem
[09:43] <kOpter> timi > Then search: flashplugin
[09:44] <timi> ok
[09:44] <galorin> paxman, ubuntu did set up pretty quick, but Deb was no bother for me, started with a netinstall and built up what I needed.  Very trim machine that needs a bit more RAM.. again.
[09:45] <timi> ahah thank you
[09:45] <kOpter> timi > You're welcome :)
[09:46] <paxman> galorin, i must try play a bit more with debian -
[09:46] <kOpter> timi > Sources are allways tricky for a beginner :)
[09:46] <rocketman768> markc_: the mkinitrd is in /etc/mkinitrd, but the actual script is not there...weird, why would the mkinitrd.conf still be there?
[09:46] <kOpter> timi > You should now be able to find almost everything you want in Adept
[09:46] <galorin> paxman, then again, my webserver is a 300MHz box with 128 meg of RAM, and sad to say.. doesn't host any sites that get more than 10 hits a WEEK!
[09:47] <paxman> galorin, what webserver - apache
[09:48] <galorin> paxman, yep.
[09:48] <galorin> just because I was already familiar with setting it up, virtual hosts, etc.
[09:49] <paxman> galorin, have u looked at ruby on rails ?
[09:49] <draik> admiral_proFTW > I got a bit of a hiccup here...
[09:49] <paxman> can run on apache i think
[09:50] <galorin> paxman, nope.  Heard of it, yes but not done anything with it.  My pages are all XhTML+CSS, nothing fancy.
[09:51] <paxman> galorin, started looking at it - looks good - but then got side tracked - started learning lisp - now sidetracked again looking at mythtv
[09:52] <galorin> paxman, I know the feeling.  I'm currently playing around with vmware-player and keeping a toddler entertained.
[09:53] <galorin> Uh oh, Silent Witness is starting soon, gtg
[09:53] <rocketman768> where is mkinitrd in kubuntu?
[09:53] <crimsun> rocketman768: you want mkinitramfs instead.
[09:53] <Ace2005> help $qtdir shows nothing
[09:53] <Ace2005> even though i'm running kde now
[09:54] <rocketman768> crimsun: why is that?
[09:55] <uniq> rocketman768: don't you want 'update-initramfs'?
[09:57] <rocketman768> uniq: I am just trying to get some sort of initial ramdisk so i can actually boot linux on my new kernel. i don't know what i need
[09:58] <raetsel99> rocketman I think you want mkinitrd
[09:59] <crimsun> rocketman768: are you using dapper?
[09:59] <rocketman768> crimsu: yes, just upgraded
[10:00] <crimsun> rocketman768: then you want mkinitramfs
[10:00] <crimsun> (or update-initramfs)
[10:00] <crimsun> we no longer use mkinitrd
[10:00] <markc_> rocketman768: initramfs-tools  then look at /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf
[10:00] <rocketman768> crimsun: ok, thanks for letting me know
[10:00] <raetsel99> do we not, crimsun? :o)
[10:00] <timi> alright so i got flash player in mozilla, but there is no audio?
[10:01] <sponix> timi:  turn on your volume ? :p
[10:01] <timi> no
[10:01] <raetsel99> you have sounds working in general, timi?
[10:01] <crimsun> raetsel99: no, we don't.
[10:01] <timi> yes
[10:01] <timi> lemme check on something
[10:02] <Agios> adjust your mixer settings
[10:02] <raetsel99> ok, crimsun.  Why's that then?
[10:02] <crimsun> raetsel99: because we initramfs
[10:02] <timi> yes i have sound
[10:02] <raetsel99> ok
[10:02] <crimsun> we use, rather
[10:05] <timi> any ideas as to why i have no soudn on flash player
[10:05] <draik> Anyone here know how to configure a network to share a USB printer on Kubuntu with a WinXP laptop (same router)?
[10:05] <timi> also a .ogg file isnt playing on amarok, this is the examples sax file that came with kubuntu when i installed it
[10:05] <crimsun> it's probably due to flash being hardcoded to use esd
[10:05] <raetsel99> This might help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1084235
[10:06] <raetsel99> what do you have in system-settings-Sound-Hardware for the Audio device? Is it automatic?
[10:07] <timi> where do i go to find that?
[10:07] <timi> k control?
[10:07] <raetsel99> On the K menu then System-Settings
[10:07] <raetsel99> Then Sound & Multimedia timi
[10:09] <timi> ok and i was looking for automatic where
[10:09] <raetsel99> Under Hardware tab
[10:09] <raetsel99> for Audio Device
[10:10] <timi> autodetecgt
[10:10] <timi> is wht it says
[10:11] <raetsel99> well you could try chaning that to Alsa, I've had to do that on some systems to get sounds working ( you can change it back easily)
[10:11] <raetsel99> I've never quite got my head round all the different types of sound manager in Linux. Choice is a blessing and a curse
[10:13] <Ace2005> how do i make konversation spell check like kopete?
[10:13] <Ace2005> you know so that words that are spelled correctly like thiis would be red
[10:13] <manu_> bonjour
[10:14] <Ace2005> not spelled correctly
[10:14] <raetsel99> don't know if you can Ace2005
[10:14] <manu_> french ?
[10:14] <Ace2005> oh :(
[10:14] <Ace2005> any irc clients that can do that?
[10:14] <manu_> i search a frch
[10:14] <aliasfred> manu_: #kubuntu-fr pour parler en francais ou #ubuntu-fr
[10:15] <aliasfred> !fr
[10:15] <manu_> thx you
[10:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:18] <raul_> hi all
[10:18] <Ace2005> hi
[10:18] <raul_> can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem
[10:18] <raul_> ???
[10:19] <timi> hey whoever told me to do the ALSA thanks
[10:19] <raetsel99> I think it was I timi :o)
[10:19] <timi> well thank you raetsel99
[10:19] <raetsel99> check your other sound stuff works as well timi, it can be a bit of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other
[10:20] <raul_>  can anybody tell me what decoder do i have to install so i could see a movie with totem
[10:20] <macd> !tell raul_  about restricted
[10:21] <||Trayer||> !ati
[10:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <||Trayer||> Is the wiki slow or what...?
[10:21] <stefan_> hallo, what's in this line incorrect?:exec 3< <( while true; do echo "hello"; sleep 10; done)
[10:22] <snider2005> hi all
[10:22] <snider2005> are you here_
[10:22] <raetsel99> hi snider2005
[10:22] <siilo> Hi all
[10:22] <snider2005> where are you from
[10:23] <siilo> just installed kubuntu, trying it...
[10:23] <raetsel99> Hi Silo, you like it?
[10:23] <raetsel99> From Birmingham, UK Snider
[10:23] <siilo> looks cool so far
[10:24] <raetsel99> You used other distros before siilo?
[10:24] <siilo> btw, where to find wincodecs for videos and lame for encoding mp3's?
[10:24] <uniq> !codecs
[10:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:25] <raetsel99> !tell siilo about codecs
[10:25] <siilo> raetsel, I've had sue for 5 years, tried others but didn't like
[10:25] <siilo> sorry, suse it was
[10:25] <raul_> sth is blocking my coundcard for mms.....what should i do
[10:25] <siilo> ubotu, thanks!
[10:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:25] <raul_> ???
[10:26] <timi> ok so eye candy
[10:26] <timi> widgets they are called karamab no?
[10:26] <raetsel99> superkaramba?
[10:26] <raul_> sth is blocking my coundcard for mms.....what should i do
[10:26] <timi> yeah thats it
[10:26] <raul_> ???
[10:26] <timi> is that integrated
[10:27] <raetsel99> Should be under the Utilitiles menu timi, but I've never used it
[10:27] <timi> i have buttons on the front of my laptop that dont work
[10:28] <timi> i found intstuctions to make them work but i need to know how i edit my xmod map
[10:28] <mehdi> #kubuntu-fr
[10:28] <timi> !xmodmap
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmodmap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:29] <timi> anyone know how to do that
[10:30] <mariux> if i download kernel-sources with adept, are the gentoo .config there by default?
[10:30] <mariux> ooops, i mean kubuntu .config
[10:30] <raetsel99> try this timi http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82500
[10:31] <Agios> man xmodmap ?
[10:34] <josh__> how the hell do u use an ipod with linux
[10:34] <mariux> start amarok
[10:35] <timi> that stuff works for ubuntu not kubuntu i think
[10:35] <mariux> media devices
[10:35] <timi> there is no nautilus in kubuntu
[10:36] <siilo> !lame
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about lame - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:39] <rocketman768> so, i just made a new kernel and initramfs.img, and I get a crapload of "modprobe could not load /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/modules.dep no such file or directory"
[10:40] <rocketman768> is this something wrong in my initramfs image?
[10:40] <GaiaX11> Where do I enable icon zooming for panel in kubuntu?
[10:41] <rocketman768> those errors are on bootup btw
[10:42] <siilo> Still, i cant find lame, mp3 encoder to rip cd:s
[10:42] <MWelchUK> Hi Guys
[10:43] <MWelchUK> Is anyone finding the desktop in dapper to be a little less than stable?
[10:43] <trappist> siilo: have to enable the universe/multiverse repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:44] <rocketman768> MWelchUK: i find the whole thing to be unstable
[10:44] <siilo> trappist, thanks, ill try
[10:46] <timi> To disable the very loud system bell in the console, uncomment "set bell-style none" in /etc/inputrc. The annoying noises in KDE can be disabled through its own tool.
[10:46] <timi> what does uncomment mean, delete?
[10:47] <GaiaX11> Is there any icon zooming in kubuntu?
[10:47] <MWelchUK> rocketman768: Guess I should have a look in the bug tracker.
[10:47] <raetsel99> timi it means remove the leading # symbol
[10:47] <raetsel99> a # makes it a comment so you comment something out by putting a # in front
[10:48] <raetsel99> and you uncomment it by removing the #
[10:51] <timi> i dont think i have an xmodmap file
[10:51] <rocketman768> MWelchUK: the bug tracker is loaded down. I have already experienced 2 or 3 of the bugs.
[10:55] <chx> hi. Writing to kio_svn is not supported. that's a bit of a problem. how can I integrate svn committing then into , say, KATE?
[10:56] <raetsel99> well time to go, bye
[10:56] <timi> how do i get rid of the annyoing beep when i backspace to far in console
[10:57] <xylus> anyh0one online?
[10:57] <xylus> i need alitle help\
[10:58] <blueranger> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <xylus> thanks
[10:58] <xylus> umm im using kubuntu and i wana change my folders from the blue ones to the gray ones
[10:58] <timi> i tried xset b off
[10:58] <xylus> but it wont let me activate them
[10:58] <timi> but the beep is still there
[10:59] <xylus> any idea how i would do this?
[11:00] <xylus> perhaps thats a stupid question one more anyone know of a good fserving irc cliant for linux?
[11:00] <prxq> I have a problem with konqueror. It is easily a factor 10 slower than firefox. is this a known problem?
[11:02] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc is there an app to change the colors of the dir, try look for it on kde-apps.org
[11:05] <Agios> xylus: righgt click on the folder icon, properties, click the icon, change it to whatever you want.
[11:06] <draik> !samba
[11:06] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:07] <timi> is there anyway to ge rid of that annoying beep in konsole
[11:07] <timi> i set system bell to 0
[11:07] <timi> there is still a sound
[11:07] <timi> i set notification off
[11:07] <timi> there is still a sound
[11:10] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:13] <alvaro> Hi
[11:14] <draik> timi
[11:14] <alvaro> What app do you recommend me? Something like Automatix or Easy Ubuntu but specially for Kubuntu?? To install the basic things.
[11:14] <draik> Click on Settings...
[11:14] <draik> then go to Bell and select NONE
[11:15] <timi> no i figured it out
[11:15] <timi> you ahve to go to configure notifications
[11:15] <draik> k
[11:15] <timi> if you dont want to have to set bell to none everytime
[11:16] <draik> and I just learned something... thanks timi
[11:16] <timi>  p
[11:16] <timi>  np
[11:17] <draik> Anyone here setup Samba before?
[11:17] <alvaro> What program should I install? Something like Automatix or Easy Ubuntu but specially for Kubuntu?? To install the basic things. Pardon my english.Thans
[11:18] <timi> draik no anything about xmodmap
[11:18] <timi> im trying to set up some hot keys
[11:18] <RandomDude16> anyone there?
[11:18] <RandomDude16> I need help getting php4
[11:18] <timi> i have instruction it just says edit xmodmap and i dont know how to open it or w/e
[11:18] <RandomDude16> and myql4 working.
[11:18] <draik> timi...
[11:18] <draik> <~~~NEWBIE!!!
[11:19] <timi> lol
[11:19] <timi> well anyone else know anything about xmodmap
[11:19] <draik> I found it rather funny that your question about firefox default was what I did about 5 minutes before you asked...
[11:19] <draik> !xmodmap
[11:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about xmodmap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <draik> well, I suppose you can edit a file within konsole with 'sudo nano -w /path/directory/xmodmap'
[11:21] <alvaro> pls could you tell me just that, I am very noob in kubuntu, and I would like an installer to setup the basic things (codecs flash, etc)1
[11:21] <draik> but I don't know what xmodmap is or what it does, so I assume it's a text file
[11:23] <Lord_Athur> hi all, which firewall do you recommend me?
[11:25] <alvaro> :(
[11:26] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:27] <trappist> Lord_Athur: I use ipkungfu
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Lord_Athur: I think pf on OpenBSD or FreeBSD is the best - Its more logical the way its configured (Otherwise just use iptables I guess)
[11:27] <nop> hello
[11:27] <trappist> h3sp4wn: the pf syntax is a little easier, but iptables is perfectly logical
[11:28] <jmichaelx> has anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load.....
[11:29] <draik> Lord_Athur, I think GuardDog is good
[11:29] <Lord_Athur> thanks all
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> trappist: maybe logical was the wrong word it looks messy would probably be a better way of describing it
[11:29] <jmichaelx> it acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuff, but after it is done, kdm does not start up, and it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there
[11:31] <total_linux_geek> jmichaelx have you tried booting into single user mode and trying to repair it
[11:32] <Lord_Athur> draik, I can't find the prograam you told me with pat
[11:32] <alvaro> which automated script do you use in Kubuntu for installing basic things? (codecs,flash) like automatix in ubuntu
[11:32] <Lord_Athur> *apt
[11:32] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: how in the world do i do that? this is like being BSOD'd
[11:32] <total_linux_geek> kinda
[11:32] <jmichaelx> i never thought linux would do this to me lol
[11:33] <total_linux_geek> do you have grub installed
[11:33] <total_linux_geek> or lilo
[11:33] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: grub
[11:33] <total_linux_geek> cool
[11:33] <jmichaelx> why would this have happened??
[11:34] <total_linux_geek> could be a corrupted conf file
[11:34] <draik> Lord_Athur, http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/Guarddog-Review-23019.shtml
[11:34] <jmichaelx> man, this sucks
[11:34] <total_linux_geek> yeah
[11:35] <jmichaelx> so linux does this to people off and on?
[11:35] <total_linux_geek> what kernel is it that you are running and which version of kubuntu
[11:35] <wolfmanz> i corrrupted my xorg.conf last night and that would hault the system while booting
[11:35] <timi> jmicheal your having a problem with xserver
[11:35] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: i am running dapper, with the most recent i686 kernel
[11:35] <timi> jmichealx are you on the same computer you were having thi problem on
[11:35] <total_linux_geek> ok
[11:36] <jmichaelx> timi: no
[11:36] <timi> ok
[11:36] <total_linux_geek> so that makes is 2.6.15-26-686
[11:36] <timi> so you cant boot into kubunutu right
[11:36] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: i think so
[11:36] <timi> b/c the same thing happened to and i installed in the safe graphical mode
[11:36] <timi> and it worked fine
[11:36] <total_linux_geek> do you have one harddisk or two
[11:36] <jmichaelx> timi: you installed what?
[11:36] <timi> kubuntu
[11:36] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: it is a laptop
[11:37] <total_linux_geek> so one
[11:37] <jmichaelx> timi: i have to reinstall?
[11:37] <timi> i installed the first time in regular mode using an alternate disk
[11:37] <timi> and it did exactly wht you describe
[11:37] <timi> yes
[11:37] <timi> just get the regular pc disk, if you alread have it then use that disc
[11:37] <total_linux_geek> so boot it and press esc when it is loading grub
[11:37] <total_linux_geek> press 'c'
[11:37] <wolfmanz> jmichae;x can you hit ctrl alt f1 and get a command prompt when it stops on ya?
[11:37] <timi> boots up do install in safe graphical mode
[11:37] <jmichaelx> timi: what advantage did doing that have over a fresh install?
[11:38] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: ok will do
[11:38] <timi> installing in safe graphical mode somehow worked
[11:38] <jmichaelx> timi: i don't get what advantage that has
[11:38] <jmichaelx> brb
[11:38] <timi> if your using a desktop/laptop with non standard resolution xserver wont recongising it and wil lhang
[11:39] <slow-motion> n8
[11:39] <timi> anyways im trying to set up some hot keys and i don tknow how to edit my xmodmap
[11:39] <timi> anyone know how
[11:40] <jmichaelx> timi: that is what it is! i installed 955resolution
[11:40] <timi> ok
[11:40] <jmichaelx> however, after i installed 955resolution, i rebooted and it worked fine
[11:40] <timi> good
[11:40] <blueranger> can anyone help me out here, i'm in the live cd and sudo cfdisk gives: "FATAL ERROR: Cannot read disk drive", fdisk -l doesnt show the /dev/hda/, BUT gparted shows /dev/hda.
[11:40] <jmichaelx> this would have been the 2nd reboot, and it will not work, as i said
[11:41] <blueranger> i havent tried creating partitions with gparted yet...
[11:41] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: i did the esc, c in grub
[11:41] <blueranger> any ideas on why i'm getting those errors with gparted.
[11:41] <blueranger> erm, cfdisk*
[11:41] <timi> jmichael im a little confused
[11:42] <timi> i thought the comp you were having this problem with wasnt booting
[11:42] <jmichaelx> timi: ok, the other day i installed 955resolution... i rebooted, it worked fine... i powered down, and now have rebooted again.... now it is not working
[11:42] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: i cannot send private messages
[11:43] <timi> ok
[11:43] <Lord_Athur> thanks all
[11:43] <doppelganger_> anyone have any positive comments on running firefox and flash in Wine, as opposed to the native versions?
[11:43] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: i'm not a registered user
[11:43] <doppelganger_> i can't stand this flash- out of sync sh*t anymore...  it's driving me nuts
[11:44] <timi> oo i c, my problem was it never booted in the first place so its a little different i guess
[11:44] <jmichaelx> i hate to say it folks, but i no longer buy the linux being more stable than windows spiel
[11:44] <doppelganger_> jmichaelx, type in "/msg nickserv register (pass)
[11:45] <jmichaelx> doppelganger_: ok, ty
[11:45] <doppelganger_> without that quote, sorry
[11:45] <MetaMorfoziS> !easysource
[11:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:46] <jmichaelx> total_linux_geek: are you still there?
[11:46] <blueranger> can anyone help me out here, i'm getting a fatal error: cannot read disk when using cfdisk and gparted wants me to create a disk label before it allows me to create a new partition.
[11:47] <blueranger> fdisk -l wont even show any partitions.
[11:47] <blueranger> or the physical disc itself.
[11:48] <ricardo> does anybody has a simple script for reading rss in conky?
[11:51] <nanaki_> hey, i'm not sure if there's anyone who knows about this stuff here, but i'm wondering about the package gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (the thing that makes gtk apps use your qt style)
[11:51] <nanaki_> in firefox this messes up the scrollbar if you're using the default kde scroll buttons style (both on bottom and one on top)
[11:51] <nanaki_> apparently this is a known issue with 0.6 and upstream fixed it in 0.7
[11:51] <nanaki_> how come we're still using 0.6?
[11:52] <nanaki_> if nobody here deals with this kinda stuff, who would i email to talk to about it?
[11:52] <trappist> nanaki_: it sort of got stuck there for dapper, won't be fixed until edgy
[11:53] <nanaki_> their policy is not to update packages with bug fixes?
[11:53] <trappist> not exactly, but they tend to be awfully conservative about non-security bugfix updates
[11:53] <trappist> it's worth filing a bug on
[11:54] <jmichaelx> ok i hope this is no offense, but i am going to repost on an issue i am having: has anyone in here ever had a kubuntu install just simply die on them? i bought a new laptop about a month ago, installed kubuntu on it immediately and it has been working great, but i came home from work today, and kubuntu will no longer load..... it acts like kubuntu is loading... the blue kubuntu logo comes up, and it goes through loading all of its stuf
[11:54] <jmichaelx>  it just goes back to the blue logo and stays there
[11:54] <trappist> they won't up to 0.7 for sure, but if you give em a working patch that just fixes the bug, there's a chance
[11:54] <nanaki_> dammit i thought i was leaving that debian attitude behind going to a more desktop-oriented distro ;)
[11:54] <trappist> nanaki_: don't take my word for it, I'm not a developer.  might ask in #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[11:55] <nanaki_> well if it's known to you it's probably known to them too and i guess they'd fix it if they were going to
[11:55] <crimsun> nanaki_: file a bug against gtk-qt-engine, assign it to me, please
[11:55] <Search4Lancer> aaahahahaha my CPU is at 79 degrees C!
[11:55] <conrad_> crimsun: do you know why i'm banned from #ubuntu?
[11:55] <trappist> nanaki_: I only know about it because I reported another bug on that package and submitted a patch.  I don't recall the fate of that bug.
[11:55] <crimsun> conrad_: I have no idea; I'm not paying close attention to irc atm
[11:56] <Search4Lancer> conrad_: usually when you get banned from a channel, it gives you a reason (if the banning op has the decency to include a reason)
[11:56] <jmichaelx> :-(
[11:57] <trappist> conrad_: looks like gnomefreak did it.  /msg him if you don't know.
[11:57] <gnomefreak> im looking
[11:57] <conrad_> Search4Lancer: yea, didn't get one
[11:57] <conrad_> ok, do you know how i change nick?
[11:58] <jmichaelx> if anyone was looking at my question, i will be back in about 5-10 minutes and repost
[11:58] <crimsun> trappist: also a gtk2-engines-gtk-qt issue?
[11:58] <conrad_> change nick
[11:58] <gnomefreak> conrad_: are you livingdaylight?
[11:58] <conrad_> yes
[11:58] <conrad_> gnomefreak: did you ban me?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i removed it it was tab com;pletion
[11:59] <doppelganger_> !crossover
[11:59] <gnomefreak> i was trying to get lilbit and tab caught you
[11:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about crossover - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:59] <conrad_> gnomefreak: i don't understand - it was a mistake?
[11:59] <conrad_> lol
[11:59] <gnomefreak> conrad_: yes
[11:59] <conrad_> gnomefreak: ok
[11:59] <gnomefreak> i unbanned you right after
[11:59] <doppelganger_> gnomefreak...  in kubuntu..
[11:59] <trappist> crimsun: yes, mine had to do with a small typo
[11:59] <doppelganger_> ;P
[11:59] <crimsun> trappist: please assign it to me
[11:59] <trappist> ok
[11:59] <crimsun> (if it's not already assigned to someone)
[12:00] <blueranger> can anyone help me out here, i'm getting fatal error: cannot read disk with cfdisk in the live cd.
[12:00] <conrad_> gnomefreak: for some reason it still says that i'm banned?
[12:00] <nanaki_> crimsun i'm getting ready to file that, just gotta type in the description, how do i assign it to you?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> fixed
[12:00] <blueranger> gparted sees the physical disc, but requires me to create a new drive label.
[12:00] <blueranger> and fdisk -l doesnt show the physical disk.
[12:00] <blueranger> i think my partition table and mbr have been corrupted after running qtparted.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> conrad_: go for it
[12:00] <doppelganger_> I'm on my waaaaaaaay,  home sweeeet hooooooooome
[12:00] <doppelganger_> ;)
[12:00] <blueranger> anyway to resolve the error in cfdisk so i can rebuild and restore??
[12:00] <conrad_> gnomefreak: ok, NOW it works : )
[12:01] <doppelganger_> g-night fellows, have a gud'un
[12:01] <crimsun> nanaki_: you'll need to Submit the report first
[12:01] <nanaki_> ok, few mins i gotta write a nice description for it :)
[12:01] <conrad_> by the way anyone know the nick command to change nick?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> conrad_: /nick newnick
[12:01] <blueranger> i've googled an it seems no one has had similar errors that are a result of a similar action.
[12:02] <trappist> crimsun: it was sitting at 'fix committed' - is that the correct status for something that's been fixed upstream?
[12:02] <crimsun> nanaki_: after you've submitted it, click the source package name under the 'Affects' column, then put me in the 'Assigned to' text entry field  (you'll probably have to 'Choose' to search)
[12:02] <crimsun> trappist: I wouldn't touch the Status yet
[12:03] <trappist> crimsun: I didn't, I was just wondering about that
[12:03] <crimsun> trappist: yes, if it has been fixed upstream but isn't in {K,}Ubuntu yet, that's the correct status
[12:03] <blueranger> anyone??
[12:03] <trappist> k
[12:04] <jbaloul> hi all, does anyone know whats going on with microphone input...seems not to be working since latest upgrade
[12:07] <jbaloul> anyone ?