[01:28] <ailean> niru, tamil has about 20% support, but that takes care of most of what you will see. you can help with the translation effort if you like!
[01:28] <doctorow> Q-FUNK What do you mean by "reminiscent of a URL?"
[01:28] <christefano> would installing MySQL and PHP5 over previous installations cause problems?
[01:28] <ailean> niru, although it is only 20%, the rest of the untranslated tamil is in lesser-known packages
[01:28] <rc-1> hmmm i changed from onboard device to SB adgiry in both volume control and volume preferences, but alsamixer is still showing my integrated card help plz
[01:28] <ChaosFan>  /wg 30
[01:28] <chuckyp> christefano, yeah why don't you remove the old versions first.
[01:29] <|_SpY_|> where i can find php.ini on ubuntu?
[01:29] <christefano> it's too late for that, I'm afraid
[01:29] <ailean> niru,      . :)
[01:29] <niru> ailean:But at present I want to know which other languages also does ubuntu support
[01:29] <ailean> niru, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+translations
[01:29] <christefano> I'm going through my command history and it appears that one of my colleagues installed MySQL and PHP5 over my the installation I already had by apt-getting without looking first
[01:29] <chuckyp> |_SpY_|, /etc/php#  somewher ein there.
[01:30] <chuckyp> |_SpY_|, or just locate php.ini
[01:30] <|_SpY_|> chuckyp thankz
[01:30] <|_SpY_|> how i locate the file?
[01:30] <chuckyp> |_SpY_|, "locate php.ini"  you may have to update the locate database first using "sudo updatedb"
[01:31] <cccharles> would apt-get install -f help christefano?
[01:31] <chuckyp> |_SpY_|, updatedb will take a few minutes
[01:31] <netpython> rc-1, is your onboard device still enabled in bios?
[01:31] <Q-FUNK> ailean: wee!
[01:31] <chuckyp> christefano, how did they install it?
[01:31] <christefano> cccharles, I'm familiar with apt-get
[01:31] <ailean> sorry Q-FUNK?
[01:31] <Q-FUNK> doctorow: e.g. in mine, I have filenames like fi.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[01:31] <chuckyp> christefano, from source?
[01:31] <cccharles> christefano: sorry, no insult intended
[01:32] <rc-1> netpython, let me check, ill brb!
[01:32] <christefano> I'm just unsure if there will be problems now that my colleague installed over the previous installation
[01:32] <netpython> rc-1, k
[01:32] <Q-FUNK> ailean: whatever language that was, it looks fun
[01:32] <christefano> she used "apt-get install mysql" and "apt-get install php5"
[01:32] <doctorow> Q-FUNK So anything with "ubuntu.com" in the name?
[01:32] <chuckyp> christefano, well if youc an find out how he installed it we could help you uninstall it.  If you find a source directory just go in there and sudo make uninstall
[01:32] <ailean> Q-FUNK, oh, that's Tamil :)
[01:32] <Q-FUNK> doctorow: yup
[01:32] <chuckyp> christefano, if he used apt do sudo apt-get remove --purge php  or whatever the package he installed is.
[01:33] <chuckyp> christefano, if he used a .deb you can dpkg -r whatever.deb
[01:33] <Q-FUNK> ailean: I'll have mine with curry and rice, thanks. ;)
[01:33] <ailean> Q-FUNK, behave yourself
[01:33] <christefano> chuckyp: I'm wondering if installing MySQL and PHP5 over a previous installation is a no-no.
[01:33] <chuckyp> christefano, probably
[01:33] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Deleted all the files in the dir and sda1 is *still* full!
[01:33] <christefano> to be honest, I need the grounds for getting her off of this server
[01:33] <ailean> niru, Punjabi, Hindi, Tamil, Nepali, English, Bengali, Gujurari, and Urdu as far as i can see
[01:34] <niru> ailean:ok
[01:34] <chuckyp> christefano, change passwords that will get them off.
[01:34] <niru> ailean:I am also searching
[01:34] <dooglus> doctorow: run a "df ." in the directory.  it'll tell you whether the directory is on /dev/sda1 or not
[01:34] <christefano> oh if it were only that simple...
[01:34] <dooglus> doctorow: (see the 'mounted on' field)
[01:34] <Q-FUNK> doctorow: yup.  df is sily like that.  the system won't acknowledge the space that you freed until you have rebooted
[01:34] <ailean> niru, it is easy to help translate. please consider helping out.
[01:34] <doctorow> Q-FUNK It is
[01:35] <cccharles> Anybody know of a command line "mail" command available for ubuntu similar to that in other distros?
[01:35] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Rebooting now (it's a different PC)
[01:35] <niru> ailean:ya I have registered myself as a member for translation
[01:35] <ailean> niru, if you speak these languages, they badly need work, and you will be helping India by doing it.
[01:35] <ailean> niru, thanks :)
[01:35] <dooglus> cccharles: install package 'mailx'
[01:35] <niru> ailean:Are you from india
[01:35] <cccharles> thx, dooglus
[01:35] <ailean> niru, no, i'm from scotland
[01:35] <niru> ailean:oh
[01:35] <zerosmoke> can't you tell by the accent?
[01:35] <zerosmoke> ;)
[01:35] <ailean> lol
[01:36] <rc-1> it was on, just turned it off but still no sound
[01:36] <netpython> cmon aileen :-)
[01:36] <ailean> netpython, aileAn :)  i'm a guy
[01:36] <zerosmoke> aye laddie
[01:36] <netpython> the song :-)
[01:36] <rc-1> alsea mixer giving right card now
[01:36] <dooglus> Q-FUNK: 'df' will report the space as being free as soon as it is free.  rebooting doesn't affect what df reports, unless it also affects how much space is free
[01:36] <netpython> rc-1, good chap
[01:37] <Q-FUNK> dooglus: I've had too many instances where deleting masses of files still doesn't report any space as freed to beleive that.
[01:37] <rc-1> i think i messed it up by having that on during install :(
[01:37] <zerosmoke> it's not mass...it's density
[01:38] <ulinskie> anybody got a good tutorial on scribus
[01:38] <zerosmoke> :D
[01:38] <christefano> thanks chuckyp
[01:38] <dooglus> Q-FUNK: if you delete a file which is open, then the space won't be freed until the file is closed.  but that's not df's fault.
[01:38] <doctorow> Q-FUNK It's still 100 percent
[01:38] <zerosmoke> geser beam
[01:38] <Q-FUNK> dooglus: that, I know.
[01:39] <zerosmoke> which file system?
[01:39] <phanter> when installing ubuntu-server, does the computer not support audio then (since it did work under ubuntu desktop)?
[01:39] <Q-FUNK> doctorow: hm.  does syslog show anything about e.g. the filesystem check having failed and root having been mounted as read-only?
[01:39] <dooglus> Q-FUNK: could it be the something is writing to the filesystem constantly, so as soon as you delete a file, the space gets used again?
[01:39] <zerosmoke> phanter, you installing it right on the drive or in a virtual drive?
[01:39] <dooglus> same question to doctorow...
[01:39] <phanter> zerosmoke: right on the drive
[01:39] <Q-FUNK> dooglus: that would be the case with e.g. syslog, yes
[01:40] <phanter> it replaced my old debian server (who had also perfect sound support)
[01:40] <doctorow> Q-FUNK dooglus Rebooting now -- I'll let you know in a sec
[01:40] <zerosmoke> not sure, phanter...any server xperts?
[01:41] <netpython> ulinskie, http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Main_Page
[01:42] <rc-1> FIXED IT :))))) needed to enable digital outline jack, and god i think i busted my eardrums when i did
[01:42] <Daverocks> lol
[01:42] <Daverocks> congrats ^_^
[01:43] <doctorow> Q-FUNK What am I looking for in Syslog?
[01:43] <Q-FUNK> hm.
[01:45] <TheMutu> heyo
[01:45] <cpk1>  i have "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sed -e 's/.*: //' | tail --lines=1" but want to take (r) out of the result as well how would i do this?
[01:47] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Is it worth fscking the disk?
[01:48] <nes_> what is this? apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[01:48] <BeanBag> what other music players (except for xmms) can i try that will be simular to Winamp5
[01:48] <deeem> nes_: use a FQDN instead, such as www.microsoft.com
[01:49] <nes_> hows that?
[01:49] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I wish to download the edgy livecd iso... I have made a 2 gb ext3 partition to download to how can I mount this volume i think its hda3
[01:49] <neil__> deeem: nice example ;-)
[01:49] <defrysk> BeanBag, beep-media-player and amarok in player only mode
[01:49] <Przemcio78> is it worth switching to edzio?
[01:49] <BeanBag> defrysk: thanks, will give it a try
[01:50] <neil__> Paddy_EIRE: mkdir /mnt/iso; mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /mnt/iso
[01:50] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Grepping syslog and syslog.0 for "full" "only" "mount" doesn't produce any clues
[01:50] <defrysk> Paddy_EIRE, mkdir <whatever>
[01:50] <nes_> deeem, what do u mean?
[01:50] <defrysk> mount /dev/dhwhatever <whatever>
[01:50] <BeanBag> another question, well 2 actually: 1. Is Defcon (the windows game) available for linux yet? and how and where can i get wine64bit on my pc?
[01:50] <defrysk> cd <whatever>
[01:50] <defrysk> and then download it
[01:51] <neil__> nes_: you've probably put a fully qualified domain name in ServerName but it can't be resolved locally or via DNS
[01:51] <nes_> how?
[01:54] <Q-FUNK> doctorow:  dmesg | less
[01:54] <XiXaQ> What is a layer-2 network?
[01:54] <Olathe> How do I ensure that Ubuntu is using SiS integrated video drivers ?
[01:54] <Przemcio78> is it worth switching to edgy?
[01:54] <neil__> nes_: if you have "SeverName www.mydomain.com" then "<IP_ADDRESS> www.mydomain.com localhost" in /etc/hosts would be a start
[01:54] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Oki -- What should I look for?
[01:55] <neil__> nes_: but that's an illustrative hack only.
[01:55] <nes_> ok
[01:55] <Q-FUNK> doctorow:  filesystem chekcs that report a failure
[01:56] <dooglus> Olathe: check for 'Driver "sis"' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <doctorow> Q-FUNK Nothing interesting under "file" or "fail" or "check"
[01:57] <dooglus> doctorow: what are you trying to do?
[01:58] <Olathe> dooglus : It has Driver "vesa".  Should I edit it to have "sis" instead ?
[01:59] <fyrestrtr> cpk1: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sed -e 's/.*: //' -e 's/(R)//g' | tail --lines=1
[01:59] <dooglus> Olathe: I have an SiS video card.  I've copied my xorg.conf here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/xorg.conf
[01:59] <doctorow> dooglus When I woke up this morning /dev/sd1 was 100 percent full -- when I rebooted, it wouldn't boot
[01:59] <doctorow> dooglus So now I'm trying to figure it out
[02:00] <dooglus> doctorow: what is /dev/sd1?
[02:00] <ruschi> Hi guys, is it ok, i.e. the good practise to comment out the lines of the modules I don't want to load at boottime in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[02:00] <doctorow> dooglus Sorry, /dev/sda1 -- according to df, that's /
[02:01] <Olathe> dooglus : Alright.  Thanks :)
[02:01] <ruschi> for example I don't want joydev to be loaded in my kernel
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> ruschi: better to blacklist it.
[02:01] <ruschi> but this module is loaded at boottime
[02:01] <ruschi> ok, how do I do it
[02:01] <fyrestrtr> !blacklist
[02:01] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[02:01] <dooglus> doctorow: ok.  how about running this to list all recent big files?    sudo find / -xdev -type f -size +1M -mtime -1 -exec ls -ld {} ';'
[02:02] <ruschi> cool, I will do that
[02:02] <ruschi> thanks
[02:03] <doctorow> dooglus It lists pkgcache.bin, slocate.db, messages.0, kern.log.0
[02:03] <dooglus> doctorow: and that's all?
[02:03] <doctorow> dooglus The big one (4982349) is slocate.db
[02:03] <doctorow> dooglus Yes
[02:04] <dooglus> doctorow: that's only 4MB.  how big is the partition?
[02:04] <doctorow> dooglus df says it's 10080488
[02:04] <dooglus> doctorow: "df -h /" will show it in a human-readable form
[02:04] <cpk1> fyrestrtr: thanks! i will try that
[02:05] <doctorow> dooglus It's 9.7G, used 9.4G, but use% = 100
[02:05] <MM2> ubuntu won't see my usb kbd nor mouse (HP wireless). What to do?
[02:06] <cpk1> fyrestrtr: great it worked thank you very much
[02:06] <dooglus> doctorow: ok, so do a       sudo du -m / | grep '^[0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] '
[02:06] <dooglus> doctorow: that'll list all the directories which use more than 1GB
[02:07] <Director> I have one problem with my live cd with the Kubuntu Linux 6.06. It never start the cdrom when the computer iniciate. I already create a diskette with the boot menu but when i select the cd it give me a error. What can i do?
[02:07] <doctorow> dooglus That's a HUGE list -- like 40 screens
[02:07] <doctorow> dooglus wait, no, I mistyped
[02:09] <doctorow> dooglus OK, I may have it. I usually have a second internal HDD mounted -- though I never got it to work right, I can't cd to it -- that I tried setting up a daily backup to a couple days ago
[02:09] <doctorow> dooglus Ysterday I removed the disk, and I think the backup ran
[02:09] <dooglus> doctorow: ok, so the backup filled up the disk instead of writing to the other disk
[02:09] <doctorow> dooglus Wait wait no
[02:10] <dings> What could be the reason for 'ssh -X' not setting DISPLAY?
[02:10] <doctorow> dooglus Just looked at the partial backup I see from your last command -- it's only 4MB
[02:10] <doctorow> dooglus False alarm
[02:10] <chuckyp> dings, you need to enable another Xserver for ssh
[02:10] <doctorow> dooglus The list of the large dirs doesn't turn up much of anything
[02:11] <dooglus> doctorow: what about doing this?  echo $(sudo du -m / | sort -n | tail -n 5)
[02:11] <dooglus> doctorow: that'll print the 5 biggest directories on one line, suitable for pasting here.
[02:11] <ruschi> is there a easy way to find out what a certain module is good for?
[02:12] <ruschi> like I have no idea whether I need 'af_packet'
[02:12] <dings> chuckyp: not sure I got that. I have a client with X.org running and a server with X11forwarding. But "client> ssh -X me@server" does not set DISPLAY on the server.
[02:12] <chuckyp> dings, actually enable X forwarding on the server.
[02:12] <ruschi> I doubt it
[02:12] <chuckyp> hrm..
[02:12] <Director> I have one problem with my live cd with the Kubuntu Linux 6.06. It never start the cdrom when the computer iniciate. I already create a diskette with the boot menu but when i select the cd it give me a error. What can i do?
[02:12] <doctorow> dooglus I'm actually using a different machine for IRC, so I can't paste (the broken machine has no network access). But I ran the cmd and the only things it found were some of my music directories in /home
[02:12] <dooglus> doctorow: what numbers do you see?
[02:13] <chuckyp> dings, just make sure you edit etc/ssh/sshd_config  and X forwarding is enabled on the server.  Then maybe try "ssh -X -2 username@server"
[02:13] <doctorow> dooglus /home/doctorow/Music/audiobooks 41061 /home/doctorow/Music 65614 /home/doctorow/65623 /home 75070 /
[02:13] <dings> chuckyp: It is and I only allow -2.
[02:13] <coz_> is there a way to remove an entry in the "open with" menu?
[02:14] <chuckyp> dings, try xhost + on the server and try it again.
[02:14] <doctorow> dooglus But /home is on sda3, not sda1
[02:14] <dings> chuckyp: eh.. suddenly realised that I probably need some x.org packages on the server
[02:14] <chuckyp> dings, I mean on yoru system
[02:14] <dings> chuckyp: Im not about to open X on my system
[02:15] <chuckyp> dings, yeah lol you need those.  But if you get a cannot display error you can try "xhost +" to release the local box.
[02:15] <allen> wow...
[02:15] <dooglus> doctorow: grrr.
[02:15] <allen> Ubuntu is the sexiest operating system ever
[02:15] <dings> chuckyp: that is not an option
[02:15] <doctorow> dooglus Tell me about it! I'm really getting desperate
[02:15] <doctorow> dooglus I can't afford to be offline today
[02:15] <chuckyp> dings, well you need x packages on the server
[02:15] <ruschi> How do I find out what a module is basically good for?
[02:16] <dings> chuckyp: remember wich, I shouldn't need to acctually run an xserver.
[02:16] <dooglus> doctorow: ok...     echo $(sudo du -mx / | sort -n | tail -n 5)
[02:16] <dooglus> doctorow: the -x will stop it looking at other partitions
[02:16] <chuckyp> dings, No you don't actually need to run X but you need the X environment on the server.  Just don't launch it.
[02:17] <doctorow> dooglus "419 /usr/local 1454 /usr/lib 1844 /usr/share 408 /usr 4575 /"
[02:17] <chuckyp> ruschi, what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:17] <dooglus> doctorow: you typoed?
[02:17] <dings> chuckyp: isn't there some "-xorg-common" or something that would be enough?
[02:17] <chuckyp> dings, there should be let me check
[02:17] <ayaa> i have a message like this: xserver-xorg: failed to load bitmap module,how to know wich package does provide that module ?
[02:17] <ruschi> I have a default kernel, I used to have a homebrew with almost everything I need statically compiled in
[02:18] <ruschi> now I use the distrokernel because it ist really good
[02:18] <chuckyp> !info xorg > dings
[02:18] <ubotu> xorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:18] <ruschi> unfortunately it loads tons of modules I don't need
[02:18] <ruschi> like sony_acpi
[02:18] <doctorow> dooglus No, I don't think so
[02:18] <doctorow> dooglus Just double-checked
[02:18] <ruschi> so I blacklist these modules
[02:18] <Khamael> no one answered in ubuntu-xgl. shouldn`t it be safe to run the official nvidia drivers with beryl on edgy now? my beryl-manager freezes xorg
[02:18] <dooglus> doctorow: you used "sort -n" in there?
[02:18] <chuckyp> ruschi, You want to list the modules?  lsmod?
[02:18] <ruschi> but some modules I don't know wheter I need them or not
[02:19] <ruschi> I list them
[02:19] <ruschi> I know
[02:19] <dooglus> doctorow: if so, the numbers should be in ascending order.
[02:19] <chuckyp> Khamael, well beryl is still not stable.
[02:19] <ruschi> all I want to know is what this modules does
[02:19] <chuckyp> ruschi, what is the name of it?
[02:19] <ruschi> like ipv6 -- enabes the ipv6 stack
[02:19] <JuJuBee> I want to build a new computer, but want to use officially supported hardware.  Where Can I look up supported hardware like Mobo's, video cards etc...
[02:19] <Khamael> chuckyp: i see. the thing is, it worked perfectly with the nvidia beta drivers
[02:19] <ruschi> ibm-acpi -- provides acpi for ibm thinkpads
[02:19] <chuckyp> JuJuBee, google for linuxcompatible
[02:20] <thevenin_> window 2
[02:20] <ruschi> Is there a generic way to find out what a modules namdd xy does?
[02:20] <chuckyp> Khamael, I know there are issues with beryl and the latest release of the envy drivers.
[02:20] <thevenin_> whoops, sorry
[02:20] <chuckyp> ruschi, google.
[02:20] <doctorow> dooglus I've triple-checked it and I think I got it right -- maybe you typoed? I have "echo $(sudo du -mx / | sort -n | tail -n 5)
[02:20] <ruschi> the modules I wonder about is tc1100_wmi
[02:20] <ruschi> ok
[02:21] <ruschi> google is always a good friend but I was wondering whether there is a dokumentation on the system
[02:21] <dooglus> doctorow: "1844 /usr/share 408 /usr 4575 /"?  the 408 should be bigger than the 1844...
[02:21] <chuckyp> ruschi, i'm checking now but I dont' see anythign
[02:21] <Khamael> chuckyp: how do I check what release I have? it just removed nvidia-glx with dist-upgrade, and installed a new nvidia driver after a "apt-get install nividia-glx"
[02:22] <chuckyp> ruschi, /usr/share/doc  somewhere maybe
[02:22] <Khamael> chuckyp: and everything seems to work, apart from beryl-manager
[02:22] <chuckyp> Khamael, cat /etc/issue  i think
[02:22] <doctorow> dooglus Ah, I typoed with the output, sorry: "419 /usr/local 1454 /usr/lib 1844 /usr/share 4058 /usr 4575 /"
[02:22] <dooglus> doctorow: either way, this is suggesting that you have less than 5GB used on that partition.  yet 'df -h /' tells you you're using more?
[02:22] <doctorow> dooglus Yes
[02:22] <ruschi> well modprobe.d/aliases is not too bad
[02:22] <dooglus> doctorow: and you ran some kind of fsck to check it?
[02:23] <doctorow> dooglus No -- I don't really know how to use fsck
[02:23] <Director> I have one problem with my live cd with the Kubuntu Linux 6.06. It never start the cdrom when the computer iniciate. I already create a diskette with the boot menu but when i select the cd it give me a error. What can i do?
[02:23] <Khamael> chuckyp: that just says ubuntu 6.10
[02:23] <geokok> I need a command to check the filesystemm for errors
[02:23] <dooglus> doctorow: the fact that it says it's 100% full when it's only 97% full is to do with ext3 saving some 5% or so exclusively for root access, but that's not the only problem here
[02:23] <chuckyp> Khamael, you are running edgy
[02:23] <doctorow> dooglus Can you walk me through a fsck maybe?
[02:23] <chuckyp> Khamael, 6.10 is the version of hte distro you are running.
[02:24] <Khamael> chuckyp: I meant what nvidia release. I guess envy was a typo?
[02:24] <chuckyp> Khamael, oh you mena which version of nvidia
[02:24] <dope> what's the best webcam program?
[02:24] <chuckyp> Khamael, do you have hte current one from the repos?
[02:24] <dooglus> doctorow: me neither, sorry.  I would guess it's a "sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1" but you probably want something safer than my guesses when it comes to an operation like this...
[02:24] <chuckyp> Khamael, if so you can apt-cache showpkg nvidia-glx
[02:24] <geokok> What command can sheck the filesystem for errors?
[02:24] <dcordes> yea
[02:24] <dope> anyone? best webcame program?
[02:25] <dope> can i access a webcam remotely?
[02:25] <dooglus> doctorow: you probably have to boot from a live CD or something, because fsck won't work if the partition is mounted.
[02:25] <neil__> geokok: fsck
[02:25] <geokok> thanks
[02:25] <chuckyp> Khamael, if not ls /var/cache/apt/archives | grep nvidia
[02:25] <dcordes> dope: you can access your box remotely with SSH
[02:26] <CarinArr> i'm having problems with my apt-get/dpkg whatever hanging when i try to install/remove packages
[02:26] <doctorow> dooglus Oki --booting from the livecd now
[02:26] <geokok> neil_: I cant run it cause it says the filsesystem is mounted....
[02:26] <dooglus> doctorow: you can "man fsck.ext3" and "man fsck" to see more
[02:26] <chuckyp> CarinArr, are you getting an error?
[02:26] <dooglus> doctorow: I'll brb in 5 or 10 minutes
[02:26] <doctorow> dooglus Thanks
[02:26] <dcordes> geokok: umount it then
[02:26] <chuckyp> CarinArr, possibly try aptitude   its better than apt-get atleast at handling dependencies.
[02:26] <CarinArr> chuckyp, no, it just hangs, using edgy
[02:27] <chuckyp> CarinArr, does it hang at the same place every time?
[02:27] <geokok> but its my root partition....can i do that? and if yes can it be done with one command for the current session only?
[02:27] <neil__> geokok: try fsck -N
[02:27] <CarinArr> chuckyp, sometimes it installs/uninstalls, but this is with lots of different packages.. not the same one
[02:27] <dcordes> neil__: is there a way to check fat32 systems?
[02:28] <dcordes> or even ntfs
[02:28] <CarinArr> it's always at "setting up xxxx..." or "removing xxxx... "
[02:29] <lastnode> is there anyway i can extract a .deb from a package that is already installed in the system?
[02:29] <neil__> dcordes: you can check vfat certainly. i think you might need to install utilities to work with ntfs
[02:29] <lastnode> for example, i have w32codecs installed on dapper, i want to extract the .deb to install on edgy (the dl site is being really slow)
[02:29] <dcordes> how can i check vfat systems?
[02:30] <neil__> you can use /sbin/fsck.vfat
[02:31] <CarinArr> chuckyp, aptitude hangs as well
[02:31] <Khamael> chuckyp: is there a way to check if my nvidia card works like it should?
[02:31] <chuckyp> CarinArr, hrm... thats wierd
[02:32] <mby> i'm installing vmware and I got error that vmware module should installed before. Do I need to use 'make menuconfig' and recompile kernel  ?
[02:32] <CheshireViking> Hi, what is a good mp3 tagger that will let me name mp3's and rename the files themselves  based on the tag's? I used to use musicmatch on windows, so something comparable to that, I've tried rythembox, but that doesn't seem to let me work on whole directory at once
[02:32] <CarinArr> it's a completely fresh install bar LDAP installed/configured for /home/
[02:32] <dings> chuckyp: no, I can't believe I need to have an xserver installed to provide x-forwarding. Are you sure? shouldn't it be enough with what on Debian would be xlibs?
[02:32] <Khamael> CheshireViking: try easytag
[02:32] <chuckyp> Khamael, like a 3d test or something?  What sort of issue are you having.
[02:32] <chuckyp> dings, whats the point of x forwarding if you have nothing to forward?
[02:33] <CheshireViking> khamael: Thanks, i'll give it a go
[02:33] <freeomen> i would like to use ubuntu. however, i hear a lot of people who got trouble with its package manager.. that to me is the most important peace of software an OS should have
[02:33] <chuckyp> !vmware > mby
[02:33] <dings> chuckyp: I will have X applications forwarded to my local x-server
[02:33] <Khamael> chuckyp: haven`t tested all that much, but my problem is that beryl-manager freezes my xorg
[02:33] <freeomen> what's the deal?
[02:33] <CarinArr> chuckyp, it's not taking up cpu, just seems to be sat there waiting.. strace seems to show different things from one run to the next.. a lot of the time it hangs while waiting for whatever pid, the next it just says resource busy etc
[02:33] <chuckyp> dings, the server needs to be able to launch the x apps.
[02:33] <ailean> Lahey, u there?
[02:34] <chuckyp> Khamael, hrm.. yeah I would keep checking in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:34] <zerosmoke> ok...i...got a cdburner to burn my iso images so i could run ubuntu...and...now i can't get cdburnerxp under wine to recognize my new writer...anybody suggest a good allround cd writer software for ubuntu?
[02:34] <chuckyp> zerosmoke, the default one.
[02:34] <chuckyp> zerosmoke, or growisofs
[02:34] <ailean> zerosmoke, the one that comes with gnome is pretty good
[02:34] <zerosmoke> you mean nautilus?
[02:35] <chuckyp> zerosmoke, yes nautilus
[02:35] <CarinArr> !paste
[02:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:35] <zerosmoke> ahhh
[02:35] <ailean> zerosmoke, just right click on the ISO file and select burn to disc
[02:35] <zerosmoke> hmmm...ok brb
[02:35] <SirDevil>  !   ? ))
[02:35] <zerosmoke> well unfortunately...i wasted my extra discs trying to get a bootable disk...so now i have to go get some more empty ones so i can test it again...:p
[02:35] <allen> anyone can help me with xchat?i can't see any users
[02:36] <chuckyp> allen, look tot he right
[02:36] <allen> <--i don't see any users list
[02:36] <allen> O_o
[02:36] <allen> look what sir?
[02:36] <freeomen> get a pack of cds, a lot cheaper
[02:36] <allen> i get a pack of cds? XD
[02:36] <zerosmoke> you have to go up to settings, preferences, then go to user list, in xchat
[02:36] <chuckyp> allen, look this way >>>>
[02:36] <allen> wait
[02:36] <CarinArr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30743/ that's what strace says when it hangs removing the package
[02:36] <allen> settings where is that
[02:36] <freeomen> wtf is XD?
[02:36] <zerosmoke> up
[02:36] <allen> -> is empty
[02:37] <allen> want a screenshot? O_o.
[02:37] <chuckyp> allen, try resizing that portion of the window
[02:37] <zerosmoke> xchat view server settings window help
[02:37] <allen> wait
[02:37] <chuckyp> allen, just outside the scroll bar
[02:37] <allen> wait
[02:37] <freeomen> i would like to use ubuntu. however, i hear a lot of people who got trouble with its package manager.. that to me is the most important peace of software an OS should have.. is that thing true
[02:37] <zerosmoke> allen pull the scroller
[02:37] <ayaa> on some docs, it says " at the boot prompt, use parameters : 'sata.i' to use a 2.4 kernel with sata drivers.", i dont know what to write on the brub menu, can you help me please ?
[02:37] <allen> pull O_o;;
[02:38] <allen> is that possible
[02:38] <allen> it wont show still
[02:38] <chuckyp> allen, can you send a screenshot to imageshack.us or something?
[02:38] <freeomen> holla back youngin
[02:38] <allen> ok
[02:38] <allen> wait
[02:38] <viblizz> Hey boys, is there anyone dark here?
[02:38] <chuckyp> dark?
[02:38] <allen> xD
[02:38] <allen> dark?
[02:38] <freeomen> i'm colored
[02:39] <chuckyp> only light
[02:39] <elias_> how to configure samba to make it actually available for file sharing
[02:39] <viblizz> talking about dark soul
[02:39] <chuckyp> !samba > elias_
[02:39] <gnomefreak> viblizz: can you please take general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:39] <elias_> it seems it only works on loopback device by default
[02:39] <allen> screenshot http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1397/probcz3.png
[02:39] <freeomen> viblizz, only you maybe
[02:39] <chuckyp> !samba | elias_
[02:39] <ubotu> elias_: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:39] <allen> wat do you think o.o
[02:39] <viblizz> I need a bad boy
[02:39] <allen> bad wat xD
[02:40] <CheshireViking> Khamael: Thanks for that, Easytag was exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated
[02:40] <Khamael> CheshireViking: te nada ;-)
[02:40] <allen> -_-
[02:40] <allen> o.o
[02:41] <chuckyp> allen, Resize the window so its not full screen.  THen just outside the slider ont he right you mouse will turn to <->  move it inward it will reveal the userlist
[02:41] <abes> hey i have a problem with madwifi
[02:41] <abes> i cant build it
[02:41] <chuckyp> allen, you want <-> not >|
[02:41] <abes> thats what I get: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc
[02:41] <allen> ok i want <->
[02:41] <abes> and also: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH
[02:42] <abes> any help?
[02:42] <freeomen> i'm bored, no one wants to comment on my post
[02:42] <allen> i resize it
[02:42] <Simbarto> \join #ccb
[02:42] <chuckyp> !wifi > abes
[02:42] <allen> it only show ->
[02:42] <Olathe> Where should I put a command that I want to run every time the system starts up (not during login, but before) ?
[02:42] <chuckyp> allen, hrm... eSettings > prefernces > user list?
[02:42] <freeomen> there is no one but me in #ccb
[02:43] <allen> esettings o.o
[02:43] <Olathe> Is /etc/rc.local acceptable for that ?
[02:43] <chuckyp> freeomen, what is #ccb?
[02:43] <neil__> freeomen: your post was great :-)
[02:43] <allen> hmm
[02:43] <freeomen> chuckyp, ask Simbarto.. he told me to join that channel
[02:43] <zerosmoke> well gnomebaker seems good enough
[02:43] <rjgonza> Hey guys
[02:43] <chuckyp> freeomen, what was your post?
[02:44] <LockUp> I need a program to export a document to PDF/X-1a format. Where can I found it?
[02:44] <freeomen> hold on
[02:44] <zerosmoke> yo gonzo
[02:44] <freeomen> i would like to use ubuntu. however, i hear a lot of people who got trouble with its package manager.. that to me is the most important peace of software an OS should have..
[02:44] <freeomen> is that true
[02:44] <chuckyp> LockUp, openoffice
[02:44] <allen> bah
[02:44] <allen> wont work
[02:44] <chuckyp> allen, dunno  how did you install xchat?
[02:44] <allen> O-o on the add/remove
[02:45] <neil__> Olathe: yes
[02:45] <ailean> Lahey
[02:45] <chuckyp> freeomen, no not true package manager is the best part
[02:45] <allen> ill try this other client hmmm let me see
[02:45] <Olathe> Alright, thanks
[02:45] <dcordes> how can i get java in FF 2?
[02:45] <allen> konversation
[02:45] <chuckyp> allen, well it should be there I dont' think there is a way to remove it.
[02:45] <Lahey> yo
[02:45] <freeomen> chuckyp, i don't disagree that it's the best.. i was talking about stability
[02:45] <allen> hmmm this is weird
[02:45] <rjgonza> yea Synaptic is great
[02:45] <phaedrus44> synaptic is too big
[02:45] <neil__> dcordes: i use gcj/gij and gcjwebplugin
[02:45] <ailean> Lahey, how'd you get on?
[02:46] <freeomen> chuckyp, in the forums, there are many post about people who had troubles
[02:46] <LockUp> Supports OOo PDF/X-1a format (not PDF)?
[02:46] <freeomen> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9636722
[02:46] <allen> woah
[02:46] <allen> i will use konversation
[02:46] <allen> its showing
[02:46] <allen> thanks chucky
[02:46] <chuckyp> freeomen, There are no stability problems with Dapper.  Edgy on the other hand is just that Edgy  mroe cutting edge software.
[02:46] <rjgonza> and you could always just install something like Automatix if you need to install something and don't know how to use synaptic - http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:46] <phaedrus44> dont know how to use synaptic?  heh
[02:46] <phaedrus44> hehe
[02:47] <ailean> !automatix
[02:47] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[02:47] <defrysk> not automatix
[02:47] <dcordes> neil__: uninstall jre then?
[02:47] <defrysk> !automatix
[02:47] <rjgonza> oo sry bout that
[02:47] <phaedrus44> automatix is not good
[02:47] <rjgonza> I never used it, just heard good things
[02:47] <scena> wow, ive always had good luck w automatix
[02:47] <rjgonza> see
[02:47] <defrysk> rjgonza, its not good so please dont advise it here
[02:47] <chuckyp> freeomen, have you read any of the posts?  Most of those where caused by people interupting the package manager/ user error
[02:47] <scena> that doesnt mean thats true for everyone
[02:47] <ailean> scena, it does what it promises. it's just when you want to do further things, it can muck some stuff up
[02:47] <Poromenos> can someone help me with some ssh tunneling?
[02:47] <scena> o hi wouldnt doubt it
[02:48] <chuckyp> freeomen, just use aptitude or synaptic and all will be good.
[02:48] <ailean> Lahey, you still there? how did you get on with installing ubuntu?
[02:48] <chuckyp> !ssh > Poromenos
[02:48] <compengi> does ubuntu supports plotter printers?
[02:48] <phaedrus44> use apt
[02:48] <Lahey> ailean: I DL the desktop cd and tried it out, i love it. Im going to install it on a second HD when i get back from school today
[02:48] <ailean> Lahey, cool, good luck
[02:48] <scena> ive been converting Windows users to Ubuntu for three months
[02:48] <Poromenos> chuckyp: i actually need the setup :P
[02:48] <freeomen> chuckyp, hmm, i didn't read them but when i saw it was common, i started thinkin maybe the PM is the problem
[02:48] <rjgonza> Does anyone know of an application for developing Flash animation, or actionscript in Ubuntu?
[02:49] <freeomen> i've been using synaptic, add/remove, apt-get
[02:49] <freeomen> installing programs couldn't be easier
[02:49] <ailean> This chart shows Ubuntu getting more popular: http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu
[02:49] <chuckyp> freeomen, Have you had any problems?
[02:49] <Lahey> ailean: Thanks again for all your help, cant wait to get home and play with it some more
[02:49] <neil__> dcordes: i wouldn't. you should be able to find a browser plugin for jre
[02:49] <dcordes> neil__: i install the packages you said and java still doesn't work
[02:49] <freeomen> but stability must be taken into consideration
[02:49] <scena> have any of you set up Ubuntu to act as a print server for Windows clients *without* using Samba
[02:49] <rjgonza> why without?
[02:49] <freeomen> chuckyp, yeah.. the things i was using don't work anymore
[02:49] <Poromenos> any good documents on SSH port forwarding, then?
[02:49] <CarinArr> sorry to repeat myself, but i'm having problems with package management.. when i try to install stuff it hangs, when i try to uninstall it hangs again.. for example i try to install fluxbox and it hangs at "Setting up fluxbox..." in the end I have to kill it, and when trying to remove it it hangs at "Removing fluxbox... " this is happening with lots of different packages, not just fluxbox.. example: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30743/
[02:49] <neil__> dcordes: what does about:plugins show in firefox?
[02:49] <freeomen> when i click on synaptic or add/remove, nothing shows up
[02:49] <ailean> Lahey, do you know how to send messages to individual people?
[02:49] <rjgonza> c ya guys later
[02:49] <chuckyp> freeomen, Are you running edgy?
[02:50] <scena> rj: well 1, ive never been able to get samba/swat to work
[02:50] <scena> rj: 2, ive also got to support somt legacy Unix systems that need to print to these servers as well
[02:50] <dcordes> neil__: Flash and Default
[02:50] <chuckyp> freeomen, perhaps you have a hung process?  Did you try looking at ps aux  or system monitor to see if there is a hung pid
[02:50] <scena> currently, ive got Mandriva print servers using CUPS-LPD
[02:50] <freeomen> ubuntu LTS 6.06
[02:50] <akpowar>
[02:50] <scena> so Windows & Unix print to it via LPR
[02:50] <freeomen> chuckyp, no.. but it happens even when i restart the computer
[02:51] <Lahey> ailean: No it wont let me type in the window when you pm me
[02:51] <scena> i need to keep the LPR support & find a nicer way to let Window print to it
[02:51] <dcordes> neil__: libflashplayer.so libnullplugin.so
[02:51] <tdn> Is it possible to temporarily disable the shutdown/reboot funktionality from regular users in Ubuntu? I am asking this because I have some systems where I need to do some maintenance work. The users of these systems are allowed to use their workstations while I do the maintenance, but things will probably break if they were to shut down the system while I am running apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that.
[02:51] <chuckyp> freeomen, well have you checked logs?  To see what is happening?  or top to see if the process is actually running.
[02:51] <freeomen> chuckyp, did you get any problems at all?
[02:51] <ailean> compengi, check out http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[02:51] <akpowar> YW1lcmljYW4gRnVsbFM=
[02:51] <chuckyp> tdn, they shouldn't be able to .  Unless you gave them priveleges to do so.
[02:52] <freeomen> chuckyp, i didn't know there were logs
[02:52] <chuckyp> freeomen, I've never had a problem with apt-get or aptiude
[02:52] <neil__> dcordes: it might me some alternatives-related problem
[02:52] <chuckyp> freeomen, /var/log
[02:52] <freeomen> chuckyp, you're proving to me i'm dumb :P
[02:52] <dorto> anyone installed oracle express deb package on ubuntu?
[02:52] <chuckyp> freeomen, no  you aren't dumb
[02:52] <icelight> hey
[02:52] <chuckyp> dorto, no its never been done before.
[02:52] <freeomen> chuckyp, i didn't look anywhere or try to fix it
[02:53] <icelight> i need a good ftp client
[02:53] <dorto> chuckyp, by anyone?
[02:53] <freeomen> i'll try it again
[02:53] <chuckyp> icelight, ftp  in terminal
[02:53] <Lahey> ailean: This is what i get - Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!
[02:53] <chuckyp> dorto, i'm just messing with you.
[02:53] <neil__> dcordes: you could try dpkg-reconfigure gcjwebplugin
[02:53] <freeomen> thanx chuckyp :)
[02:53] <icelight> i mean in x-windows
[02:53] <icelight> i need a ftp client in x-winodws
[02:53] <ailean> Lahey, okay, you need a different chat program :) no matter, i'll get back in touch with you
[02:53] <chuckyp> freeomen, yeah check there and see if system monitor shows a process hugn like synaptic or update-manager  things of that sort.
[02:53] <tdn> chuckyp, they are allowed to shut down the computer via Gnome as regular users by default. This is a good feature because normally they need to be able to turn off the computer. But I just don't want them to do it while I am upgrading the system.
[02:53] <chuckyp> icelight, gftp
[02:53] <dorto> chuckyp, meh
[02:53] <rambo3>  how do i let qemu use actual network cards and no virtual net
[02:53] <chuckyp> icelight, firefox
[02:53] <icelight> firefo?
[02:54] <icelight> how to get it?
[02:54] <chuckyp> tdn, hrm...
[02:54] <scena> dammit, they say use Samba
[02:54] <scena> if i set CUPS up to share printers, can Windows use IPP?
[02:54] <chuckyp> icelight, firefox is your web browser ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:54] <dcordes> neil__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcjwebplugin    nothing happens when i issue this command
[02:55] <neil__> dcordes: that's ok
[02:55] <Lahey> ailean: i think i can fix it
[02:55] <icelight> ok
[02:55] <icelight>  i see
[02:55] <icelight> ty
[02:55] <dcordes> neil__: and it doesn't change anything
[02:55] <igor> is there a any text editor to program in Ubuntu....(C,C++,Python.....) ???
[02:55] <neil__> dcordes: does "which java" return anything
[02:55] <scena> Ajunta
[02:55] <Lahey> ailean: ill be back
[02:55] <igor> i used kate in Kubuntu...
[02:56] <dcordes> neil__: /usr/bin/java
[02:56] <B-Minus> igor: just kate
[02:56] <B-Minus> ye
[02:56] <neil__> dcordes: and "java -version" gives (not all of it)
[02:56] <igor> B-Minus:  but in gnome...instead gedit
[02:56] <B-Minus> hmm dunno im in kubuntu using kate :)
[02:57] <chuckyp> tdn, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/  possibly this may be of use.  You would have to undo what ever you do though to give them control back.
[02:57] <rc-1> http://www.adultswim.com/adultswimfix/index.html says i need windows media player, any help?
[02:57] <akpowar>
[02:57] <agy> I upgraded to edgy and lost the spell checker in openoffice.org. I have language-pack-en, language-support-en and myspell-en-{gb,us}. Any ideas?
[02:57] <chuckyp> igor, vim
[02:57] <tdn> chuckyp, ok. Thanks.
[02:57] <akpowar>
[02:57] <akpowar>
[02:57] <dcordes> neil__: 1.4.2-02
[02:57] <chuckyp> wth?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> dcordes: to set jre path for firefox act did you try upda-alternatives?
[02:57] <Alan-D> scena: Where is hte printer situated, on the Windows pc or Linux PC?
[02:57] <JuJuBee> after reading many reviews on linuxquestions.org about harware compatibility, I am more confused.  What Mobo works very well with ubuntu (planning on server)?
[02:58] <dcordes> gnomefreak: ? upda-alternatives: command not found
[02:58] <JuJuBee> Onboard video and sound would be fine.
[02:58] <tijn_tux> gnomefreak: maybe he has an keyboard error :D
[02:58] <neil__> dcordes: update-alternatives
[02:58] <gnomefreak> dcordes: sorry its sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:58] <igor> chuckyp: what comand i put to get C identation(colours, etc) in Vim
[02:58] <dcordes> oh ok
[02:58] <gnomefreak> dcordes: i was watching the troll seeing if he came back before i finished
[02:59] <dorto> is it known when skype will be added to edgy restricted repositories?
[02:59] <dcordes> it gives me the option to chose between 5 alternatives
[02:59] <chuckyp> igor, no idea I don't use.
[02:59] <abes> is there anyone here that uses madwifi? #madwifi doesnt seem to be any live
[02:59] <gnomefreak> dcordes: use the one that says 1.5?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> dcordes: the sun java one
[03:00] <chuckyp> igor, you could always install kate and continue to use that.
[03:00] <neil__> gnomefreak: a troll or someone who doesn't know how to configure his locale? :)
[03:00] <dcordes> gnomefreak: does this also apply do ff2 ?
[03:00] <chuckyp> abes, lots of people
[03:00] <chuckyp> !madwifi | abes
[03:00] <ubotu> abes: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:00] <gnomefreak> neil__: a troll
[03:00] <igor> chuckyp: ok...thanks..
[03:00] <chuckyp> igor, aptitude install kate
[03:00] <dcordes> gnomefreak: 3 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java   ... then?
[03:00] <dope> hey ya, i have the webcam motion running and i don't know how to kill it
[03:01] <gnomefreak> dcordes: yes
[03:01] <doctorow> webben \
[03:01] <abes> chuckyp: ive seen it... i have problem with "make"ing it though!
[03:01] <chuckyp> dope, What is the name of the program?
[03:01] <dcordes> gnomefreak: anything else to do?
[03:01] <dope> motion
[03:01] <abes> it just returns: /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directory
[03:01] <chuckyp> dope, is it an x program?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> type 3 than enter now ubuntu will use that one system wide
[03:01] <chuckyp> dope, i.e. a gui program?
[03:01] <dope> it's a command line program i think
[03:01] <neil__> dcordes: check about:plugins in firefox again
[03:01] <dope> no gui
[03:01] <chuckyp> dope, try killall motion
[03:01] <abes> and also Makefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[03:02] <dope> i think that worked
[03:02] <dope> thx bro
[03:02] <chuckyp> dope, if its gui based you could alt+f2 type in xkill it will turn your cursor to a skull and cross bones just click on the app you want to kill.
[03:02] <dope> this has no gui
[03:02] <gnomefreak> dcordes: for other browsers other than ff you will need to set it in the browser (konq. opera ect...)
[03:02] <dcordes> gnomefreak: argh still no java in about:plugins
[03:02] <dope> but i think that did it
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dcordes: restart ff
[03:03] <dcordes> allready did
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dcordes: is this the ff that came with ubuntu or did you install another one?
[03:03] <dcordes> gnomefreak: sudo killall firefox
[03:03] <dcordes> gnomefreak: no i installed ff2 manually the night it arrived
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dcordes: thats why
[03:03] <neil__> gnomefreak, dcordes: is there a browser plugin for jre1.5? there's one in the repository for 1.4
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dcordes: give me a sec to find the command
[03:03] <_jellydonut_> any freeradius folks out there?
[03:04] <dcordes> gnomefreak: no need to hurry. thanks a lot
[03:04] <chuckyp> !java | neil__
[03:04] <ubotu> neil__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:04] <dcordes> !java
[03:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:04] <dcordes> !firefox2
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <dcordes> !firefox
[03:04] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:04] <gnomefreak> dcordes: cd /opt/firefox/plugins/
[03:04] <gnomefreak> dcordes: let me know when you cd that
[03:05] <dcordes> gnomefreak: no such file/directory. but don't ask me where i put it. any command to figure this out?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> dcordes: than the next command run in full with the / . at the end
[03:05] <gnomefreak> dcordes: dont know where you put it but you should have put it in /opt/
[03:05] <valehru> anyone know a good mame client in gnome?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> dcordes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:05] <dcordes> gnomefreak: any way to find this out?
[03:05] <chuckyp> dcordes, locate firefox/plugins
[03:05] <neil__> chuckyp: thanks. i was asking for what dcordes is trying to achieve. i have gij working in firefox nicely.
[03:06] <gnomefreak> dcordes: locate should work than just make a sym link for it simular to sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .
[03:06] <Trillian_> anyone know a link that might help me install Ubuntu 5.10 ,ON a HDD that already has Win XP ?
[03:06] <jrib> !dual | Trillian_
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <jrib> !dualboot | Trillian_
[03:07] <ubotu> Trillian_: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:07] <Trillian_> ty
[03:07] <ailean> Trillian_, 5.10??
[03:07] <dcordes> gnomefreak: ok found it ^^ it's in /usr/share/firefox/firefox/plugins
[03:07] <Trillian_> yeah
[03:07] <ailean> Trillian_, why not go for 6.06 or 6.10?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> dcordes: cd there than run the command i gave you
[03:08] <Trillian_> meh, connection is slow, had to get a CD from a friend
[03:08] <gnomefreak> dcordes: cd /usr/share/firefox/firefox/plugins
[03:08] <ailean> Trillian_, where are you?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> dcordes: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* .
[03:08] <Trillian_> Inida
[03:08] <gnomefreak> dcordes: with the /* .
[03:08] <Trillian_> india*
[03:08] <Trillian_> >.>
[03:08] <LainNaomi> can anyone please explain this to me?(Python) UnboundLocalError: local variable 'number' referenced before assignment
[03:08] <ailean> Any users from india willing to post Trillian an updated version of Ubuntu?
[03:09] <edgarin> Hi to allpeople, I have a problem with my frostwire whe the frostwire is loading in the terminal says: Configuring environment...
[03:09] <edgarin> Loading FrostWire:
[03:09] <edgarin> log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (com.limegroup.gnutella.gui.Initializer).
[03:09] <edgarin> log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
[03:09] <jrib> !paste | edgarin
[03:09] <ubotu> edgarin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:09] <edgarin> and, the Frostwire load but dont work the screen is in blank
[03:10] <jrib> edgarin: are you using fancy transparency affects?
[03:10] <Trillian_> maybe not, thanks anyways ailean :)
[03:10] <ailean> Trillian_, try again. there are lots of indian users
[03:10] <jrib> Trillian_: do you mean the server's connection or yours?
[03:10] <ailean> Trillian_, it really is worthwhile to install the latest version
[03:10] <Trillian_> mine
[03:11] <jokester> hey, i have some problem with vpnc. i can never connect from the first time. it says rtnetlink answers: file already exists. any ideas ?
[03:11] <Trillian_> and the ISP charges me for every upload/download thingy
[03:11] <jokester> if i used vpnc-disconnect and then reconnect normally the problem goes away and i can connect
[03:12] <igor> what's the pdf reader for ubuntu?
[03:12] <ailean> Trillian_, i wonder how much it would cost me to post a disc to you
[03:12] <neil__> igor: evince
[03:14] <D1G1T> <-- Trillian_
[03:14] <dope> what do the 2 partions for ubuntu do?
[03:14] <ailean> hi D1G1T - i'll post a disc to you if you want
[03:15] <D1G1T> it costs :(
[03:15] <chuckyp> dope, /swap and /   swap is used as extra memory when your physical ram is used up.  / holds all the system
[03:15] <ailean> D1G1T, that's okay - pay me back by copying it for your friends
[03:15] <D1G1T> really?
[03:15] <ailean> D1G1T, sure - msg me
[03:16] <dcordes> gnomefreak: how to go on?
[03:16] <dcordes> now that im in the plugins folder
[03:16] <scena> argh. brb. im getting bombarded.
[03:17] <Jimbo52> hello
[03:17] <Jimbo52> i just installed ubuntu to check it out and im kinda lost
[03:18] <Jimbo52> first of all i cant see my second hard drive
[03:18] <dcordes> gnomefreak: still around?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> yews
[03:18] <Jimbo52> hello???
[03:18] <gnomefreak> sorry stepped out for a minute
[03:18] <gnomefreak> dcordes: once you run the 2 commands i gave you restart ff
[03:19] <Jimbo52> i thought before i removed ubuntu id stop here and see if anyone knows this os
[03:19] <jrib> Jimbo52: hi, did you read the help guides in your help menu to get you started?
[03:19] <Jimbo52> menu??
[03:19] <mardi_soir> hello i have a problem when i lauch X with Driver "savage" in xorg.conf it does not work,the computer does not seems to be crashed but a can' t do anything and a i have to reboot ... lspci tell me it s a s3 savage , it is dapper
[03:19] <gnomefreak> dcordes: the last command i gave you should have listed a bunch of stuff. all symlinks it tried to make
[03:19] <dcordes> gnomefreak: sorry but they give me errors
[03:19] <jrib> Jimbo52: do you have a graphical interface at the moment?
[03:19] <Jimbo52> it posts 2 floppies...i only have one
[03:19] <Jimbo52> yes
[03:19] <Jimbo52> gui
[03:19] <gnomefreak> dcordes: the last command gave you already exsits?
[03:20] <dcordes> yes
[03:20] <gnomefreak> dcordes: thats fine
[03:20] <Jimbo52> one supposed floppy (floppy1) supposedly has 99.9 gigs free????
[03:20] <gnomefreak> dcordes: restart ff than about:plugins
[03:20] <dcordes> gnomefreak: ./libnullplugin.so to libnullplugin.so: File exists
[03:20] <incorrect> is there a user space tool to configure wifi?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> dcordes: yes thats good
[03:20] <Jimbo52> i suppose thats somehow the masterm altho it should be 115+
[03:21] <gnomefreak> dcordes: the ln -s command took all and tried to symlink them some already were there when you ran it the first time
[03:21] <Lahey> ailean: i think i fixed it, to sure till you say something.
[03:21] <dcordes> gnomefreak: -_- didn't work
[03:22] <Jimbo52> so, why wont it recognise both my drives and whats with the floppy, and floppy1?
[03:22] <jrib> Jimbo52: hmm I don't really know much about floppies, but if you post the contents of your '/etc/fstab' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give the channel a link, someone might be able to help.  Also, open a terminal and type 'mount' without quotes and press enter, pastebin that as well
[03:22] <jokester> hey, anyone uses vpnc and can help me ?
[03:23] <Jimbo52> the problem isnt a floppy its the fact that it seems to falsly see more than one floppy, and doesnt see the second hard drive
[03:23] <ailean> Is there a list of people who would like discs anywhere? I know it takes a while to get them through shipit, but I'd be willing to send them out myself.
[03:23] <gnomefreak> dcordes: than im not sure if that was right directory to be cd'ed into. since you didnt do it in /opt/im not sure
[03:23] <jrib> Jimbo52: what filesystem is on the other drive's partition?
[03:24] <dcordes> gnomefreak: omg how can i get back to old ff den?
[03:24] <Jimbo52> ntfs
[03:24] <Jimbo52> other drive is ntfs
[03:24] <jrib> !ntfs | Jimbo52
[03:24] <ubotu> Jimbo52: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:25] <jrib> Jimbo52: note that you can only safely read from ntfs drives, writing is not recommended
[03:25] <gnomefreak> dcordes: you have to remove it see !firefox   and use the newversion link and how to remove is on there. just replace your directories with the ones they state
[03:25] <Jimbo52> ubotu ...will look in a minute
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about will look in a minute - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell Jimbo52 about yourself
[03:26] <Jimbo52> it sees network drives on other machines that are ntfs but wont see the one on this machine??
[03:26] <jrib> Jimbo52: did you try what the wiki site recommended?
[03:26] <Jimbo52> i missed that
[03:26] <jrib> Jimbo52: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:27] <Jimbo52> k brb
[03:28] <alberto> hi
[03:28] <alberto> why there is no compiz for aixgl/xorg in edgy?
[03:28] <neil__> alberto: there is
[03:28] <jrib> !info compiz
[03:28] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:28] <alberto> No, but that version is for XGL
[03:28] <alberto> Not for aixgl.
[03:29] <gnomefreak> alberto: join #ubuntu-xgl  you can run compiz on edgy just fine beryl works better IMHO though
[03:29] <neil__> alberto: it works with aiglx in xorg
[03:29] <alberto> I done like beryl.
[03:29] <alberto> I like freedesktop standars, beryl not.
[03:29] <alberto> neil__: Yes, I know, but not edgy one.
[03:29] <alberto> neil__: http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/
[03:30] <gnomefreak> alberto: ask in #ubuntu-xgl. also the /topic in there has guides
[03:30] <alberto> gnomefreak: I dont use XGL, I use xorg.
[03:30] <atlas95> hello
[03:30] <atlas95> send to/ bluetooth in nautilus doesn't work, it finds any device
[03:30] <gnomefreak> alberto: topics related to compiz/xgl/beryl are offtopic for this channel
[03:30] <atlas95> someone could help me please?
[03:30] <alberto> gnomefreak: why?
[03:31] <alberto> gnomefreak: You speaked about beryl not me.
[03:31] <jrib> alberto: #ubuntu-xgl is the channel created for xgl, aiglx, compiz, beryl, and related
[03:31] <alberto> gnomefreak: I use xorg.
[03:31] <gnomefreak> alberto: because there is no direct support for them in ubuntu
[03:31] <alberto> gnomefreak: Are you a ubuntu worker?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> define worker?
[03:31] <summat> anywhere i can get the csm package? I cant install compiz on edgy because the csm package is needed for compiz-plugins and it cant be installed
[03:31] <alberto> gnomefreak: I DONT use beryl.
[03:31] <alberto> So stop.
[03:32] <alberto> No beryl no XGL.
[03:32] <alberto> I use Xorg.
[03:32] <alberto> And Xorg is supported by Ubuntu.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> alberto: than why did you ask about compiz
[03:32] <alberto> Xorg have aixgl inside. So if ubuntu support xorg support aixgl as well.
[03:33] <gnomefreak> alberto: aiglx does nothing on its own that you would beable to see.
[03:33] <igor> anybody knows a C channel?
[03:33] <jrib> igor: ##c
[03:33] <neil__> alberto: if you install compiz-core, compiz-gnome and compiz-plugins that's all you need. it works with aiglx in xorg
[03:33] <alberto> neil__: No, it doesnt.
[03:33] <alberto> neil__: I did. :-)
[03:33] <igor> thanks
[03:33] <alberto> ?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> neil__: help him in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:34] <neil__> alberto: it works fine for my ATI-9200 based card. have you enabled composite in xorg.conf?
[03:34] <jrib> summat: are you trying to use compiz from the offcial ubuntu repositories?
[03:34] <alberto> neil__: I have compiz working here, not ubuntu official one.
[03:34] <gnomefreak> alberto: and neil__ join #ubuntu-xgl for help with compiz.
[03:34] <summat> jrib, as far as i know, yes
[03:34] <Director> I have one problem with my live cd with the Kubuntu Linux 6.06. It never start the cdrom when the computer iniciate. I already create a diskette with the boot menu but when i select the cd it give me a error. What can i do?
[03:34] <summat> compiz-plugins: Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable
[03:34] <summat> i get that while installing
[03:34] <jrib> summat: apt-cache policy compiz-plugins    on pastebin please
[03:35] <bjornolai> I'm having trouble installing the google toolbar on firefox 2.0 in edgy. Something about the build type?
[03:35] <Japsu> I'm having trouble connecting my Ubuntu laptop to my cell phone via Bluetooth. Currently I'm trying to do it manually: hcitool cc <bdaddr>; hcitool auth <bdaddr>, which responds with "HCI authentication request failed: Input/output error". Any insight on this?
[03:35] <Jimbo52> is 6.10 more problematic than 6.06?
[03:35] <Japsu> Actually it's Kubuntu Edgy.
[03:35] <Jimbo52> rb
[03:36] <pip> I heard that there is some kind of 3D desktopc program available ,right ?
[03:36] <pip> *desktop
[03:36] <phaedrus44> pip:   uh ...yeah
[03:36] <pip> phaedrus44, so what is its name and how can I get it
[03:36] <gnomefreak> jrib: iirc the official repos dont use csm yet
[03:37] <loutrine> pip: I think you're after XGL & Beryl, see here http://www.beryl-project.org/index.php
[03:37] <jrib> gnomefreak: yeah, that's what I believe as well
[03:37] <phaedrus44> pip:  which ubuntu you use?
[03:37] <phaedrus44> 6.06?
[03:37] <pip> loutrine, thanks
[03:37] <bjornolai> Anyone know why the google toolbar is not compatible with my Firefox build type (linux-gnu_x86-gcc3) ??
[03:37] <pip> phaedrus44, only ubuntu can use that ?
[03:37] <Jimbo52> is it a good idea to use Dapper Drake for ntfs writing support?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> bjornolai: they havent made a version for 2.0 yet
[03:37] <Jimbo52> first day on linux here
[03:38] <summat> jrib: just checked my sources.list, think its sorted now, there was an extra line when i tried beryl, its installed it now
[03:38] <phaedrus44> pip:  what?
[03:38] <pip> Jimbo52, : )
[03:38] <jrib> summat: great
[03:38] <gnomefreak> bjornolai: thats the only thing that would be the reason
[03:38] <bjornolai> gnomefreak: thanx :)
[03:38] <loutrine> pip: No probs :) I found a great guide for ati cards running ubuntu edgy if that would help
[03:38] <Jimbo52> i mean the ntfs fuse module
[03:38] <phaedrus44> check thiss out  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9JC5NQ7G0o
[03:38] <pip> phaedrus44, i want to ports it to other linux
[03:38] <Jimbo52> should i use the ntfs fuse module whatever that is
[03:38] <pip> *port
[03:39] <neil__> Jimbo52: first of many :)
[03:39] <Jimbo52> As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support
[03:39] <Jimbo52> through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but
[03:39] <Jimbo52> is NOT recommended. Do you want to use this? [no]
[03:39] <Jimbo52> leave it set at no??
[03:40] <gnomefreak> Jimbo52: might want to try a fuse channel. i dont recommend using it as it can hurt your system
[03:40] <jrib> Jimbo52: that depends on how much you value your data and whether or not you have backups.  _very experimental_ are the key words
[03:41] <oyvind> Anyone know how I can stop Evolution from creating a HTML-part in all my outgoing mail ? I _do_not_ want HTML to be part of the mails I send ... I can't figure out how to disable it
[03:41] <Jimbo52> k...so I wont be ablel to write to the ntfs drive correct?
[03:41] <neil__> oyvind: one moment, i've done this
[03:41] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, pretty much
[03:41] <morphycs> How to disable ipv6 in Edgy 6.10?
[03:41] <jrib> !ipv6  | morphycs
[03:42] <ubotu> morphycs: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:42] <gnomefreak> !ipv6
[03:42] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:42] <Jimbo52> what filesystem should the second drive be set at ?
[03:42] <Jimbo52> for full usage
[03:42] <joelol75> Can anyone help me with Beryl in KDE.  It works, I just need a regular session and autoloading the beryl-manager crashes this.  I made a startup script .kde/Autostart/beryl to load it in, and used a if [$DISPLAY = ":1.0" ] ; then load statement but the script doesn't work... After KDE starts I can re-run the script and it works.... Is this a KDE prob (Too soon to check $DISPLAY) or is there a better condition to check?
[03:42] <Jimbo52> fat32??
[03:42] <gnomefreak> joelol75: try in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:42] <jrib> Jimbo52: ext3
[03:42] <Jimbo52> est3?
[03:42] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, just leave it at ntfs, read from it in linux, and get the windows ext3 drivers for when you have to boot into windows
[03:43] <joelol75> thanx
[03:43] <Jimbo52> i dont have windows on this machine any more
[03:43] <kmaynard> that's if the other partition is going to be a windows os...if it's just raw storage use ext3
[03:43] <chi-pandanIndah> need help. I am new at Ubuntu...my internet is not working when i re-start into livecd
[03:43] <Jimbo52> i have windows on another machine on this kvm switch
[03:43] <kmaynard> then use ext3
[03:43] <neil__> oyvind: Edit|Preferences|Composer Preferences|Default Behaviour and uncheck Format messages in HTML
[03:43] <Jimbo52> where do i find this ext3?
[03:43] <tim167> vlc plays an mp4 file but without sound, how do I fix this ?
[03:43] <kmaynard> chi-pandanIndah, wireless or wired?
[03:44] <oyvind> neil__: Thanks a lot :)
[03:44] <wijnand> why ext3 and why not reiserfs?
[03:44] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, how are you creating the filesystem? in the installer?
[03:44] <Jimbo52> or where do i change it?
[03:44] <kmaynard> wijnand, ext3 is a little more stable
[03:44] <wijnand> ah
[03:44] <Jimbo52> honestly i dont know what the hell im doing here :)
[03:44] <wijnand> never had issues with reiser, but then again neither with ext3 :)
[03:45] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, unmount it, mk2fs -j /dev/hdx
[03:45] <Jimbo52> first time i looked at this os
[03:45] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, google is your friend too
[03:45] <Jimbo52> yea i know
[03:45] <jrib> Jimbo52: install gparted if you want a nice gui interface
[03:45] <bjornolai> Jimbo52: gparted might be a good way to go
[03:45] <kmaynard> wijnand, i've never had a problem with reiser (use it on my server even tho i wanna switch it) but ive heard data loss stories...ext3 is pretty rock solid
[03:46] <oyvind> neil__: I already had that option turned off. The reason I got confused was that I noticed my saved drafts contained an HTML-part. However, this part disappeared when I actually sent the saved drafts, so no problem. Thanks for the help, anyway, it works as expected.
[03:47] <neil__> wijnand: I've had no problems with JFS or XFS. i'm presently using XFS
[03:47] <Jimbo52> maybe i s should go see if that script from that site made the drive accessable first
[03:47] <Jimbo52> brb
[03:47] <kmaynard> huh?
[03:48] <aro-ron> Hey all, anyone able to give me a hand with some video drivers? I would like to try and run the OSS ATI drivers, so I can run AIGLX, but dont know if itgot installed with edgy or not, the online documentation didnt help much. Any tips? if not, I will just go with proprietary drivers
[03:48] <Guardian> hi
[03:48] <bjornolai> I can't get my mic to work in edgy. Bugs the hell out of me having to boot in to windows to talk to people. Anyone know anything about mics and edgy?
[03:49] <neil__> aro-ron: the oss ati drivers are in xorg
[03:49] <Jimbo52> dammit...drive is still not visible as far as i can see
[03:49] <kmaynard> bjornolai, check your volume control, make sure the mic isnt muted
[03:49] <Jimbo52> it should show under "computer" right?
[03:49] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, language
[03:49] <aro-ron> neil_ I know that, how do I get them to actually run?
[03:49] <Shi`Hao> hi, I have a Pentium 4 HT cpu and I saw a site stating that I've to use linux kernel i686 instead of 386, why is that??
[03:49] <Jimbo52> do i need to re install the os or what?
[03:50] <neil__> aro-ron: select ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:50] <morphycs> I disabled ipv6 as written in the ubuntuforums but when I check for that "ip a | grep inet6" I get output which means that ipv6 is active
[03:50] <kmaynard> Shi`Hao, you dont have to, but it will use both threads
[03:50] <kmaynard> Jimbo52, you need to do some googling and reading
[03:50] <dooglus> doctorow: any luck?
[03:50] <kmaynard> morphycs, did you reboot?
[03:51] <morphycs> kmaynard: sure
[03:51] <aro-ron> neil_: oh duh, thank you... time to get my glasses checked
[03:51] <bjornolai> I have checked every option in my alsa mixer gui. Tried using the alsa mixer from console, but I can't seem to get the mic volume up.
[03:51] <Jimbo52> well if this os was worth a sh*t it seems it should at least be able to recognise a freakin hard drive without taking a course to figure out why it wont
[03:51] <grout> im looking to buy a new mini pci wireless card for my dell because my old ones compatability sucks with linux, which card would you guys recoment
[03:51] <boink> pcmcia card?
[03:51] <dooglus> bjornolai: run the volume-control program, enable all the switches any turn on and up 'capture', 'mic', etc.
[03:51] <kmaynard> troll in the dungeon...
[03:51] <grout> no mini pci
[03:52] <pppoe_dude> hi. ok, say i have a corrupt/unusable master boot record.... i.e. computer doesn't boot... NOW, if i install grub on it, will it autodetect which operating systems are on which partitions?
[03:53] <chi-pandanIndah> anyone know how come gaim is not working but the network (firefox) is working perferctly well?
[03:54] <abbyz> how do i change the screen resolution from the shell?
[03:55] <wijnand> shell being console?
[03:55] <abbyz> yeah
[03:55] <dorto> pppoe_dude, try it; ubuntu should show the detected operating systems during installation of grub
[03:55] <wijnand> abbyz iirc that's a boot option
[03:55] <Jimbo52> when i use    for i in /dev/[hs] d[a-z] ; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done    i can see the drive in the terminal but not under "computer"
[03:56] <Jimbo52> hmm
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> dorto, i only want to install grub from livecd... there is no ubuntu installation on the computer...
[03:56] <bjornolai> Dooglus: In the "normal" volume control everything is on and up. But when i go in to the alsa mixer from console the mic is down and unmovable
[03:56] <abbyz> wijnand: so there's a way in which i can change that boot option?
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> dorto, this is for a friend... well, i guess another way to ask the question... if there's a windows installation, can i uze grub to boot into it? (this is purely diagnostic)
[03:57] <Gwildor> ya
[03:57] <dorto> pppoe_dude, yes, grub can boot into windows installation
[03:57] <loutrine> pppoe_dude: Can't you boot a windows cd and run a fixmbr or something...?
[03:57] <pppoe_dude> dorto, so it will autodetect it right? coz theres no /etc/menu.1st file or anything
[03:57] <dorto> pppoe_dude, you can do it from grub prompt itself even if there is no entry for windows in grub menu
[03:57] <pppoe_dude> dorto, do you have a handy command?
[03:57] <agent> anyone know why in bash, if i do for i in $FILE.... when $FILE=`cat file_with_multiple_lines`, the for statement does not iterate over every line? $i ends up being $FILE
[03:58] <dorto> pppoe_dude, no, you need to enter the partition number on which windows is installed
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> dorto, so... grub> 1 will boot /dev/hda1?
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> (in the prompt ofcourse...)
[03:58] <dooglus> bjornolai: there's a switch for which mic to use, too?
[03:59] <dorto> pppoe_dude, yeah, but I don't remember the exact procedure; my brother dictates me and I type it
[03:59] <dorto> but i have booted into windows from grub>
[03:59] <proppy> hi, from a edgy live cd:
[03:59] <proppy> mkdir /tmp/a
[03:59] <proppy> cvs -d /tmp/a init
[03:59] <proppy> cvs [init aborted] : cannot get working directory: No such file or directory
[03:59] <pppoe_dude> ok. will figure it out thanks
[03:59] <Gwildor> pppoe_dude, pm me
[03:59] <proppy> filling a bug report right now if not already known .
[04:01] <bjornolai> dooglus: I can't seem to find no switch. There is an internal mic, and I have gotten that one working at one point, but it disappeared again. But what I need is the external one.
[04:02] <grout> im looking to buy a new mini pci wireless card for my dell because my old ones compatability sucks with linux, which card would you guys recoment
[04:02] <St_MPA3b> is here any Opera users?
[04:03] <ifireball> agent: I'll need to seem more of the script to figure that out, also note that it'll run for every WORD in the file not every line
[04:04] <New-Bee> help needed. how come my "Gaim" unable to link to msn or yahoo when the Firefox can be use?
[04:04] <agent> ifireball: thank you... i was directed to a faq in #bash which i think answers my question
[04:04] <ifireball> agent: n/p
[04:05] <Jimbo52> (gedit:6294): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:05] <Jimbo52> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:05] <dorto> New-Bee, tell the error message you are getting. maybe you have not configured your yahoo account properly
[04:05] <Jimbo52> ?
 cvs -d /tmp/a init <-- works for me fine though; just for your info
[04:06] <New-Bee> its just unable to connect...just mention "unable to make connection" i use default setting
 cvs -d /tmp/a init <-- works for me fine though; just for your info
[04:06] <Trixsey> Hey you guys! I'm thinking about switching from Windows (duh!) to Ubuntu... So I figured I'd ask a few questions first :D
[04:06] <proppy> dorto: on a edgy live cd ?
[04:07] <dorto> proppy, no, not live cd, normal installed version
[04:07] <loutrine> Trixsey: Go ahead :)
[04:07] <dorto> proppy, sorry, did not read your message completely
[04:07] <proppy> dorto: np
[04:08] <visik7> edgy doesn't show anyomore unmounted usb keys on the desktop if I don't click mount when I plug it in why ? (kubuntu)
[04:08] <solevita> hello there
[04:08] <solevita> ich hab 'ne frage
[04:08] <LjL> !de
[04:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:09] <Trixsey> #1) Does Ubuntu work well in a Windows-network?
[04:10] <surface> Trixsey: windows network?
[04:10] <LjL> Trixsey: there is Samba included by default, with graphical frontends
[04:10] <surface> what is tat?
[04:10] <loutrine> Trixsey: With file sharing etc? Yes.
[04:10] <Trixsey> surface: A network filled with windows computers basically
[04:11] <Trixsey> loutrine: yeah
[04:11] <surface> Trixsey: sure
[04:11] <surface> don't worry about the virus infection from the windows
[04:11] <Trixsey> My main problem is I have a program I'm running, which is pretty much like an advanced calculator
[04:11] <k31th> enyc: wats that command to get every thing you need to build an app in ubuntu
[04:11] <surface> ubuntu won't get affected
[04:11] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me why i get this since i upgraded to edgy: http://www.nopaste.linux-beginner.org/index.php?id=2938a76224 ?
[04:11] <k31th> apt-get some-thing package-name
[04:11] <Trixsey> it's written in delphi, and it aint open-source
[04:11] <sigger> Trixsey: I have Ubuntu PC acting as file server for windows PC's if thats what yer lookng for
[04:11] <inc|freaky> its something about locales i guess
[04:12] <surface> k31th: apt-get?
[04:12] <hastesaver> k31th, build-essential
[04:12] <LjL> Trixsey: and you want to...?
[04:12] <hastesaver> k31th, apt-get install build-essential, to be precise
[04:12] <Trixsey> I just want a cool OS
[04:12] <k31th> no it gets all the deps
[04:12] <k31th> hastesaver: so i can pull down all the deps for a package
[04:12] <LjL> Trixsey, there are a few "advanced calculators" for linux.
[04:12] <Trixsey> We use Solaris in school, and that is fts
[04:12] <surface> Trixsey: mac os is cool
[04:12] <crapz0r> oh rly?
[04:12] <Trixsey> LjL: This calculator is very specifically designed for one thing though.. calculating attacks in a game I play :P
[04:13] <hastesaver> k31th, that apt-get does by default
[04:13] <worldcitizen> hi can anyone help me in playing a video CD
[04:13] <LjL> !wine | Trixsey
[04:13] <ubotu> Trixsey: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:13] <sigger> Trixsey: like poker :-p
[04:13] <Trixsey> Compability layer.. as in emulator?
[04:13] <LjL> Trixsey: well, Wine means Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:13] <Trixsey> LOL :P
[04:13] <worldcitizen> I have installed ubantu from the ubuntu live CD and now the palyer does not pay the video cd.
[04:13] <hastesaver> k31th, "apt-get install <packagename>" (you can also use aptitude, or Synaptic, or Adept instead of apt-get) will automatically install that package and all its dependencies
[04:13] <genon> I have a slight problem getting the right Hz for my monitor, it's stuck on 60Hz, any ideas?
[04:13] <worldcitizen> The cd drive is mounted though
[04:13] <solevita> worldcitizen: get vlc player    that works
[04:13] <hastesaver> worldcitizen, is it a DVD?
[04:14] <wheelswitch> !aptitude
[04:14] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:14] <cheesy> worldcitizen: join #ubantu
[04:14] <worldcitizen> no it's a cd
[04:14] <Trixsey> #2) Does DC++ run well on Ubuntu?
[04:14] <LjL> Trixsey, when people say "emulator", they usually mean something that simulates a computer architecture. WINE on the other hand just executes Windows binary files, and has a (mostly) Windows-compatible API. that's different
[04:14] <bjornolai> Can anyone tell me how to change the language of my ubuntu. He's speaking norwegian and that bugs me :)
[04:14] <dear_> Hello
[04:14] <Trixsey> LjL: is wine free?
[04:14] <LjL> Trixsey: wine is free, dc++ doesn't run at all on Ubuntu AFAIK, but there are alternatives
[04:15] <dear_> i want install Lanquage Thai
[04:15] <Trixsey> yeah fulDC and stuff, right?
[04:15] <agent> bjornolai: when you log in there is an option to change language (if you have it installed)
[04:15] <LjL> !info dcgui | Trixsey
[04:15] <wheelswitch> !thai
[04:15] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <Trixsey> oh yeah
[04:15] <Trixsey> dcqt and dcguiqt and stuff
[04:15] <dear_> !thai
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <dear_> Yes Thai
[04:16] <dear_> i want install Lanquage Thai  and Keyboard Thai
[04:16] <bjornolai> Agent: when I log in? U mean just before the splash
[04:16] <agent> bjornolai: if you need to install a language, go to system->administration->language support (thats in english - you will need to transalte into the current language)
[04:16] <wheelswitch> krap krap
[04:16] <hastesaver> worldcitizen, it *should* play by default, usually.
[04:16] <LjL> Trixsey: the current KDE one is called valknut actually, but anyway there are at least three or four different clients in the repos
[04:16] <hastesaver> !restricted | worldcitizen
[04:16] <ubotu> worldcitizen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <agent> bjornolai: when you type in your username/password... there is an options button on the bottom
[04:16] <bjornolai> Thanx
[04:17] <genon> I can't seem to change my Hz for my monitor, any ideas?
[04:17] <dear_> Help Me
[04:17] <smartmovie> help you with what??
[04:17] <Trixsey> C++ only compiles to exe?
[04:17] <Trixsey> or what?
[04:17] <LjL> Trixsey: uh?
[04:17] <cheesy> smartmovie: (16:16:19) dear_: i want install Lanquage Thai  and Keyboard Thai
[04:17] <Trixsey> I figured since DC++ didn't run in Ubuntu
[04:17] <solevita> hi     does anybody know which plugin is responsible for live media in mozilla firefox?      the videos work, but there is no sound   for example at google.video
[04:17] <Trixsey> Because it's open source, so should be able to compile DC++ in Ubuntu?
[04:17] <LjL> Trixsey: ".exe", if that's what you mean, is just the extension Windows and other operating systems (not Ubuntu) use for executable programs
[04:18] <LjL> Trixsey: no.
[04:18] <LjL> Trixsey: the fact that it's open source doesn't mean you can take it and compile it unmodified on any system.
[04:18] <LjL> Trixsey: the Linux and Windows APIs are totally different. you'd have to rewrite it to work on Ubuntu
[04:18] <dear_> Help Me
[04:18] <dear_> i want install Lanquage Thai  and Keyboard Thai
[04:18] <wheelswitch> solevita:  that is a known problem, if you reset your x session, and do not open any apps which use your soundcard, it should work
[04:18] <Trixsey> ok
[04:18] <Trixsey> Java ftw :p
[04:19] <LjL> Trixsey: anyway, why don't you just try out the other clients we have?
[04:19] <ailean> guys, is there a way to help out shipit?
[04:19] <Syn_Flood> Hiya
[04:19] <Trixsey> I had ubuntu before, briefly
[04:19] <Trixsey> long ago
[04:19] <solevita> wheelswitch:  thanx!!  let's try it out
[04:19] <Trixsey> and I remember I couldn't get DC going
[04:19] <Syn_Flood> Can i ask a question about Evolution in there?
[04:19] <ifireball> anyone know if there is some kind of a spamblocker plugin for gaim?
[04:19] <genon> Where can I change the Hz for my monitor, if it isn't displayed in the Screen Resolutions
[04:20] <worldcitizen> ihave the totem media player installed but it does not play the vcd
[04:20] <loutrine> worldcitizen: sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:21] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell genon about fixres
[04:21] <ifireball> genon: Ubuntu ususally chooses the bes refresh rate possible, if you're not happy with the rate it chose, you can force it to ues a higer rate by telling it in xorg.conf that your screen does not support as low rate is is chose
[04:21] <ifireball> genon: however, messing with xorg and that level might cause your X not to load at all
[04:22] <sally2> how does one get the trask can back on the desktop gui?
[04:22] <Syn_Flood> I have evolution installed it has the exchange plugin installed as well (all by default install of Xubuntu) but exchange isn't showing up as a selectable server to use.
[04:22] <Syn_Flood> is this common?  i can't find anything on this type of a problem online anywhere
[04:23] <genon> ifireball: I think that it's stuck on 60Hz for some reason, kinda new to Ubuntu so I don't know what I am looking for in xorg that could change that
[04:23] <bjornolai> Is there anyway I can tell whether ubuntu has detected my microphone or not?
[04:23] <Syn_Flood> I've reinstalled Evolution as well hasn't fixed anything.  I'm new to Xubuntu so i could just be doing something wrong.  Any suggestions?
[04:23] <LjL> bjornolai: if it has detected your soundcard, it has detected your microphone.
[04:23] <ifireball> genon: I think someone already told ubotu to link you to a wiki page about all this, if not "/msg ubotu fixres"
[04:24] <bjornolai> oki
[04:25] <bjornolai> In Gnome Alsa Mixer i can only choose Rec on capture. Is this my mic? (sorry for my ignorance)
[04:25] <igor> is there any program similar to SuperKaramba to ubuntu ?
[04:26] <proppy> bug reported : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cvs/+bug/71089
[04:26] <ifireball> igor: gdesklets, never tried it though so I can't gurantee quality...
[04:26] <LjL> !info kgrellm | igor
[04:27] <ubotu> Package kgrellm does not exist in any distro I know
[04:27] <LjL> err, gkrellm
[04:27] <ifireball> LjL: that's not quite what superkaramba does
[04:28] <Syn_Flood> anyone have any suggestions? :)
[04:28] <Trixsey> #4) What made you choose Ubuntu over other unix distributions?
[04:28] <LjL> ifireball: dunno, i've used neither. but superkaramba has shiny applets for the desktop, and gkrellm has shiny applets for the desktop...
[04:28] <loutrine> Trixsey: Community (support), debian based (apt-get) and all the cool kids were doing it :p
[04:28] <dorto> yeah, gdesklet is prone to crashes, not all desklets, but some
[04:28] <worldcitizen> loutrine, how do u install a package in ubuntu
[04:29] <dave_> anyone know if its possible to run fglrx and nvidia-glx kernel sources on the same machine? apt only wants one or the other
[04:29] <worldcitizen> i have searched the site for ubuntu vlc
[04:29] <loutrine> worldcitizen: sudo apt-get install foo
[04:29] <dave_> ive got two video cards, one of each
[04:29] <worldcitizen> it can be downloaded but there are so many versions
[04:29] <Juhaz> there's also adesklets, which should be desktop-agnostic
[04:29] <Fallen_Angel> Hey can someone help me with my ubuntu ???
[04:29] <loutrine> worldcitizen: open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install vlc
[04:29] <Homie> hello
[04:29] <solevita> wheelswitch:  IT WORKED!!   thank you    *kiss*
[04:29] <Fallen_Angel> i have a problem with apache2 php5 with charsets
[04:29] <LjL> Trixsey: i ruled out anything that didn't use APT, since i was already so used to it on Debian and liked it. Ubuntu was the most obious choice for a desktop computer. anyway, i think this is not a support question and should be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[04:29] <Fallen_Angel> :(
[04:30] <Homie> is it possible to open passworded rar files under ubuntu without password?
[04:30] <ifireball> LjL: afaik gkrellm is just one ugly horizontal bar full of system meters, not quite up to pare with SuperKramba, but actually KDE guys began to write SuperKaramba becasue they envied gdesklets...
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> How can i get the latest nvidia drivers from nvidia's screen resolution to change
[04:30] <Alakazamz0r> my refresh rate is stuck @ 800x600@50hz
[04:30] <Trixsey> #5) Is ubuntu (the OS, excluding all programs and stuff included in the bundle) updated frequently? How frequent?
[04:30] <Syn_Flood> is there a chat room for evolution issues?
[04:31] <Alakazamz0r> ive changed it to the monitors specs in xorg.conf
[04:31] <hastesaver> !repeat | Fallen_Angel
[04:31] <ubotu> Fallen_Angel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:32] <Syn_Flood> my text is grey am i actually posting in the channel?
[04:32] <wheelswitch> solevita:  no worries
[04:33] <wheelswitch> Syn_Flood:  yes
[04:33] <loutrine> Syn_Flood: Yes, I can read your messages fine :)
[04:33] <Syn_Flood> sweet
[04:33] <Syn_Flood> just making sure :)
[04:33] <LjL> Trixsey, a release comes out every 6 months. meanwhile, packages are *not* updated, i.e. you won't get new versions. the only updates you get are fixes to security vulnerabilities and to very serious bugs
[04:34] <Syn_Flood> I'm not a complete noob but I get frustrated easy with linux :)
[04:34] <worldcitizen>  i have got gnome-vlc_0.8.5-svn20060208-1ubuntu1_i386.  What does one do install it? just double click?
[04:34] <LjL> Trixsey, then there is an (unsupported) "backports" repository where some packages from the next (development) version are ported back to the current version. but only a few packages end up there
[04:34] <dave_> anyone know if its possible to run fglrx and nvidia-glx kernel sources on the same machine? apt only wants one or the other
[04:35] <Alakazamz0r> anyone?
[04:35] <Alakazamz0r> ive even removed all modes except 1024x768, and its still 800x600
[04:35] <Alakazamz0r> its like xorg isnt reading my monitors sync ranges.
[04:35] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and take care to select the right monitor parameters
[04:35] <wheelswitch> is there a quick command to display system details, ie cpu, hdd, ram etc?
[04:35] <Alakazamz0r> i just did that.
[04:35] <Syn_Flood> Alakazamz0r, it might be that your driver is only supporting 800x600?
[04:35] <Alakazamz0r> i even went into advanced settings LjL
[04:36] <Alakazamz0r> Syn_Flood, i downloaded/installed it from nvidia.com
[04:36] <dave_> what driver are you using?
[04:36] <zomgkickbanmepls> LOL JEWS
[04:36] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: and you used the sync ranges are reported on your monitor's manual?
[04:36] <zomgkickbanmepls> LOL UBUNTU
[04:36] <dave_> nv or nvidia?
[04:36] <Alakazamz0r> yes LjL
[04:36] <hastesaver> LjL, has he been doing this all day?
[04:36] <Alakazamz0r> thats whats weird LjL
[04:36] <dave_> Alakazamz0r
[04:36] <xgm> Hello, im using 6.06, and I have 6.10 alternate install cd, how to upgrade with that cd ?
[04:37] <LjL> hastesaver, uh? don't know, i joined a few minutes ago...
[04:37] <leafw> is there any email client for ubuntu that enables whitelisting?
[04:37] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell xgm about upgrade
[04:37] <bjornolai> Does anybody know how to use AlsaMixer??
[04:37] <IA-Outdoors> what's the trick to get ndis setup under ubuntu?  I don't see any package matching 'ndis'
[04:37] <Alakazamz0r> yeah dave_
[04:37] <hastesaver> LjL, ok. Because I came here sometime earlier in the day and I saw something similar happen... the price of popularity, I guess
[04:37] <dave_> what driver are you using?
[04:37] <Alakazamz0r> this is my monitor http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/p780/
[04:37] <dave_> nv or nvidia?
[04:37] <Alakazamz0r> dave_, nvidia
[04:37] <IA-Outdoors> ...that's using adept, of course
[04:37] <Alakazamz0r> nv works correctly.
[04:37] <wheelswitch> !upgrade
[04:37] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[04:37] <LjL> hastesaver, trolls abound, yes.
[04:37] <Syn_Flood> Alakazamz0r, is it a newer graphics card?
[04:38] <Alakazamz0r> mx440, no it isnt
[04:38] <dizzie> Afternoon all :)
[04:38] <hastesaver> xgm, the CD probably has a cdromupgrade or something, running it should do
[04:38] <dope_> hey
[04:38] <dope_> so i open up a terminal and i want to run bitchx how do i do that without losing control of the terminal to bitchx?
[04:38] <LjL> Alakazamz0r, so you *only* have 1024x768 in your xorg.conf? for all depths?
[04:38] <xgm> hastesaver: there isn't such thing
[04:39] <Alakazamz0r> yes
[04:39] <Alakazamz0r> crazy eh
[04:39] <leafw> dope_ : open a 'screen' first
[04:39] <dope_> how do i do that
[04:39] <leafw> dope_ : type screen
[04:39] <dope_> ah ok, thx buddy
[04:39] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: that's quite weird because i believed X wouldn't boot at all if none of the graphics modes set were available
[04:39] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: how did you restart X after changing the settings last time?
[04:39] <leafw> dope_ : and remember:  man screen
[04:39] <dope_> :D
[04:39] <Alakazamz0r> i know, whats what i thought also.
[04:39] <Alakazamz0r> kill -9 pid of X
[04:40] <Alakazamz0r> /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:40] <Alakazamz0r> lemme try something else...brb
[04:40] <LjL> Alakazamz0r, the latter should more than suff
[04:40] <Syn_Flood> LjL, could Alakazamz0r do the three button salute
[04:40] <LjL> ...ice
[04:40] <Syn_Flood> :)
[04:40] <xgm> How to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 with alternate CD ?
[04:40] <Syn_Flood> what is is ctrl, alt, backspace?
[04:40] <leafw> xgm: set the repository to be the CD
[04:40] <LjL> Syn_Flood: yeah but restarting gdm should be fne as well
[04:40] <Syn_Flood> just wondering :)
[04:41] <sc4ttrbrain> !upgrade | xgm
[04:41] <ubotu> xgm: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[04:41] <LjL> xgm: << If you have the Edgy Alternate Install CD (not the Desktop CD), you can save bandwidth by using: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"  >>
[04:41] <Syn_Flood> LjL, do you have any experience with Evolution and MS exchange? by chance :)
[04:41] <LjL> Syn_Flood: not really
[04:41] <abes> how do you play Dvix an Xvid on ubuntu?
[04:41] <abes> and*
[04:41] <Syn_Flood> kool
[04:41] <xgm> thnnks
[04:42] <ifireball> abes: depnds on what player you wanna use
[04:42] <leafw> abes : with vlc, using proper decoders.
[04:42] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell abes about divx
[04:42] <ifireball> leafw: totem can do that quite well as well
[04:42] <leafw> abes : search for 'vlc' in synaptic.
[04:42] <Syn_Flood> anyone here using evolution with ms exchange?
[04:42] <leafw> ifireball : not so good experiences with totem on powerpc, whereas vlc works everywhere so far.
[04:42] <jobless_> hey i have a problem installing ubuntu on dell xps 700.. the installation freezes .. anyone tried it !
[04:43] <abes> leafw: is vlc a player?
[04:43] <leafw> abes : yes.
[04:43] <thijs> Hi
[04:43] <St_MPA3b> I must do something spetial when deleting programs installed from DEB packages? Or only delete program dir + configs?
[04:43] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[04:43] <leafw> abes : a very nice one by the way
[04:43] <ifireball> leafw: VLC geve me quite a buggy experiance on Linux
[04:43] <rich_> can anyone shed some light on this error? http://pastebin.ca/244259
[04:43] <Alakazamz0r> i  uninstalled all the ubuntu drivers.
[04:43] <thijs> how remove het x server
[04:43] <Alakazamz0r> for vid.
[04:43] <thijs> ?
[04:43] <St_MPA3b> !deb
[04:43] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:43] <incorrect> i've installed the fglrx module and configure my xorg.conf,  in my logs im getting "DRI initialization failed!" says i get 2d but not 3d,  anyone seen this before?
[04:43] <thijs> for ubuntu
[04:43] <leafw> ifireball : vlc has evolved a lot from dapper to edgy.
[04:43] <Alakazamz0r> im rebuilding the kernel module.
[04:43] <LjL> thijs: why do you want to remove it?
[04:43] <hastesaver> St_MPA3b, "apt-get remove <packagename>", as usual
[04:43] <jrib> St_MPA3b: use apt-get/synaptic/dpkg to remove the deb
[04:43] <leafw> is there any email client for ubuntu that enables whitelisting?
[04:44] <hastesaver> St_MPA3b, I meant, use whatever you usually use to remove installed programs
[04:44] <Syn_Flood> i've gotta go bye :)
[04:44] <ifireball> leafw: I donno, I'ev been tracking them for years, lately they seem too windows-oriented for me
[04:44] <leafw> ifireball : well, in choice there is freedom!
[04:44] <Subhuman|L> !downgrade
[04:44] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[04:44] <Subhuman|L> :/
[04:44] <rich_> also this error for kiba-dock any help i would appreciate.  http://pastebin.ca/244261
[04:46] <jbroome> bannination!
[04:46] <daxxar> Is there any tool that allows me to configure my WLAN with 'preferred networks', so that it'll connect to whichever is in range at the current time? (One is encrypted, other is open)
[04:46] <Alakazamz0r> brb
 hm... it cant ununttall seamonkey that was installed from .deb downloaded from mozilla website
[04:47] <jobless_> hey i have a problem installing ubuntu on dell xps 700.. the installation freezes .. anyone tried it !
[04:47] <segfault> daxxar, wpasupplicant
[04:47] <St_MPA3b> uninstall*
[04:47] <hastesaver> St_MPA3b, what was the package called?
[04:47] <jbroome> jobless_: where does it freeze?
[04:47] <jbroome> no, i don't have an xps700
[04:47] <segfault> St_MPA3b, use apt-get to remove, use package name
 oh... it wasnt .deb...
[04:48] <thijs> nice
 that mesage was 4 u)
[04:48] <daxxar> segfault, wpasupplicant allows me to set 'preferred order' on a bunch of networks? THanks, I'll look at it.
[04:48] <segfault> St_MPA3b, what was it was it if not deb
[04:48] <dungodung> I'm having troubles with my /etc/fstab... can someone give/paste me theirs (preferrably with vfat systems)
[04:48] <thijs> i will remove X window (gui)
[04:48] <thijs> how to?
[04:49] <leafw> thijs : specify more. What do you want to do?
[04:49] <thijs> i will remove the x window system
[04:49] <thijs> and the ubuntu gui
[04:49] <leafw> thijs : sudo apt-get remove xorg-xserver
[04:49] <thijs> only cmd line
[04:49] <thijs> very Tnx !! DX
[04:50] <leafw> thijs : but there may be more packages, run an autoremove afterwards.
[04:50] <abes> ok i have vlc - where can i get codecs?
[04:50] <thijs>  8-)
[04:50] <LjL> leafw: that's xserver-xorg, and it won't remove much i'm afraid
[04:50] <leafw> LjL : with autoremove it will, for those packages were indirectly isntalled
[04:50] <LjL> thijs: perhaps if you want a server install, you could use the server version
[04:50] <thijs> ow oke
[04:50] <thijs> very tnx
[04:51] <LjL> leafw, i'm not going to try that, but i doubt it... removing ubuntu-desktop won't make autoremove remove anything else
[04:51] <matiit> cze
[04:51] <LjL> the packages that are installed by default aren't marked as autoremovable, otherwise it'd be a mess
[04:51] <thijs> ./
[04:51] <abes> can anyone tell me how to get codecs?
 exeutable
[04:51] <thijs> waht codecs
[04:51] <thijs> ?
[04:51] <jvolkman> you'd probably have more luck with `sudo apt-get remove libx11-6`
[04:51] <mrdude> is it possible to run two window managers? beryl for one and just metacity or kwin for the second? when i run beryl my 2nd desktop goes useless
[04:51] <thijs> xdiv
[04:51] <thijs> ?
[04:52] <thijs> ore what?
[04:52] <jrib> ubotu: tell abes about codecs
[04:52] <segfault> !enter|thijs
[04:52] <ubotu> thijs: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:52] <leafw> LjL, thijs : to ensure the shot, do a dpkg-quer -W --showformat='${Package}\t${Status}\n' | grep "ok installed" | grep "xserver" | less
[04:52] <thijs> sorry
[04:52] <leafw> and then remove whatever is there with apt-get.
[04:52] <thijs> ore use aptude
[04:52] <leafw> that was dpk-query
[04:53] <segfault> St_MPA3b, delete the files it installed
[04:53] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[04:53] <leafw> hum, dpkg-query  (my typing!)
[04:53] <Alakazamz0r> im going to put my conf file in a paste bin
 ty
[04:53] <oneseventeen> I have an Edgy Eft server setup in VMware (running on an Ubuntu Breezy box), and every time the screen blanks, it looses its network connection.  When I hit a key on the keyboard, it is immediately available.
[04:53] <thijs> tnxi go bye
[04:53] <thijs> ./canel
[04:53] <slight> I'm getting random crashes in various apps since upgrading to edgy (clean install). Mainly FF and gnome-terminal, which are known issues, but also other apps just randomly closing and not being caught by bug buddy or whatever it's called. i've run memtestx86 and that came up clean
[04:53] <Toma-> cool, tremulous is in the multiverse!
[04:53] <slight> any suggestions what i should file a bug against?
[04:53] <Alakazamz0r> LjL, http://pastebin.com/820467
[04:53] <oneseventeen> How do I keep my Edgy Virtual Machine from loosing network connectivity?
[04:54] <oneseventeen> Or is there a way to keep the server install from blanking the screen?
[04:54] <xgm> Hello, is there any tool in 6.06 or 6.10 (except firestarter) to share internet connection from eth0 to eth1 ? I got my connection from router to eth0 by cable, and i want to make connection sharing like in windows, to share connection from 1 lan card to another, becouze im using 2 computers and they are connected by cables, sorry for my english :P
[04:54] <Toma-> slight: ask on launchpad
[04:54] <Alakazamz0r> and im @ 800x600@50hz
[04:54] <Alakazamz0r> weird? i think so.
[04:54] <Toma-> slight: or, file a bug against gnome-terminal and someone will a assign it to the proper place
[04:54] <slight> Toma-, #launchpad?
[04:54] <Toma-> slight: google: launchpad ;D
[04:54] <ifireball> Alakazamz0r: any hints on the log file?
[04:55] <LjL> Alakazamz0r: i think so too, and i'm not sure what to try
[04:55] <slight> i know launchpad, but there's an awful lot of it
[04:55] <dorto> xgm: can't you share through your router?
[04:55] <Alakazamz0r> let me check ifireball
[04:55] <slight> what do you mean by 'ask on launchpad'
[04:55] <xgm> dorto: no
[04:55] <dorto> xgm: connect internet to router; then connect all the computers to that router
[04:55] <timhaughton> I've got an archive split using WinRar, so I've got .r00, .r01 .r02 files etc. How can I recombine the archives in Edgy?
[04:55] <Toma-> slight: theres a support box you can ask it
[04:55] <xgm> I want to make connection sharing thru lan cards
[04:55] <slight> Toma-, right thanks
[04:55] <xgm> dorto: its impossible, all slots are used
[04:55] <Toma-> np
[04:56] <abes> supposingly i have Ogg Theora installed, but I still cant play movies - what can it be?
[04:56] <xgm> and I want to share connection by lan cards
[04:56] <dorto> xgm: connect a hub or a switch into one slot on the router, then connect more computers to the hub/switch
[04:56] <dorto> xgm: you can share the connection from a gnu/linux box using iptables
[04:56] <preaction> timhaughton, you don't need to "recombine" them, when they're extracted it will Just Work
[04:56] <[DOW] Shaddar> hi
[04:56] <xgm> dorto: can you help me do that ?
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> brb ifireball  im going to write to a fresh log
[04:57] <user-land> gparted does not partitions USB harddisks ?
[04:57] <Alakazamz0r> using a fresh conf file
[04:57] <ubuntu__> czesc
[04:57] <sgorilla71> is there anything better than squirrelmail?
[04:57] <ubuntu__> jest tutqaj jakis polak ?
[04:57] <sgorilla71> also what is the best spam filtering program?
[04:58] <Toma-> spamassasin
[04:58] <dorto> xgm: I don't remember the commands, I used to do that long back when I had no routers; you should be easily able to find the procedure by google searching
[04:58] <strabes> sgorilla71: gmail :)
[04:58] <sgorilla71> strabes: thats what i use =)
[04:59] <sgorilla71> strabes: i guess you can host domains on it also, but i want to host some stuff on my server
[04:59] <ifireball> sgorilla71: the depends on taste, I like "horde" (doon if its available on ubuntu though)
[04:59] <[DOW] Shaddar> someone here experienced in the update-system of ubuntu and kubuntu (especially which one is better for a linux-beginner) ?
[04:59] <sgorilla71> Toma-: spamassassin isnt that good
[04:59] <sgorilla71> ifireball: is there anything with AJAX functionality?
[05:00] <Subhuman> Shaddar, whats up?
[05:00] <ifireball> sgorilla71: I think newer horde version may have some, I havn't setup any webmail servers in a long time...
[05:00] <Riot777> is in Ubuntu (not Kubuntu) /opt directory made by default after install?
[05:01] <Flats> Good morning, I want to set up a webcam on Ubuntu.  Can anyone recommend a good cam that will work well?
[05:01] <sgorilla71> ifireball: i will check it out
[05:02] <Shaddar> which update-system is easier fpr beginners to handle ... adept (from kubuntu) or the one of ubuntu (don't know which name it has)
[05:02] <ifireball> Riot777: seems so, I got one and I don't remeber making it... my system is a 3rd generation upgrade though, not a clean install
[05:02] <Shaddar> @ subhuman
[05:02] <Riot777> ah
[05:02] <Riot777> I need to know is it after fresh install
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> LjL, ifireball http://pastebin.com/820474
[05:03] <ifireball> Shaddar: its synaptic in ubuntu, but both are not for beginners, a beginner should use the add/remove applet in ubunto and the auto-update notification icon
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> there's my log
[05:03] <Alakazamz0r> i see nothing :(
[05:03] <Subhuman> Shaddar, synaptic is the most user-friendly for beginners
[05:03] <netpython> Flats, http://ralph.n3rds.net/index.php?/archives/124-Webcam-installation-scripts.html
[05:04] <netpython> Flats, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[05:04] <scythe128> anyone hae problems with synaptic starting from the menu?  Mine will only launch from cli
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> root@unixadmin:~# glxinfo |grep rend
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> direct rendering: Yes
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/SSE2
[05:04] <Alakazamz0r> its working, just not at the correct resolution.
[05:04] <netpython> scythe128, and if you make a shortcut on the desktop?
[05:04] <ro1> Hey i'm having some issues with my wireless on Edgy
[05:05] <scythe128> havent, I dont like shortcuts on my destop
[05:05] <ro1> i worked at fixing it
[05:05] <ifireball> Alakazamz0r: there is your hint: #
[05:05] <ifireball> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to validate any modes; falling back to the default mode
[05:05] <ifireball> #
[05:05] <ifireball> (WW) NVIDIA(0):     "nvidia-auto-select".
[05:05] <scythe128> just wondering if this problem is wider spread than me
[05:05] <rc55> I was wondering - is there any sort of server management front end for ubuntu?
[05:05] <Alakazamz0r> aah
[05:05] <Shaddar> k, so for the beginning ubuntu is better for me than kubuntu ? (for adept i have a good url to search repositories, for synaptic nothing (not searched for yet) ... that's why i'm asking :)
[05:05] <netpython> scythe128, not that i know
[05:06] <Flats> thanks guys
[05:06] <Subhuman> rc55, admin for what?
[05:06] <ro1> but im at a point where i need a pointer
[05:06] <ro1> can anyone hlp
[05:06] <Hattori> ? wireless
[05:06] <netpython> !wireless
[05:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:06] <Alakazamz0r> hmm...  ifireball ... what do you sugguest.
[05:06] <Hattori> thx
[05:06] <scythe128> shadder, it doepends on what you prefer, kde or gnome
[05:06] <Subhuman> i mean, if you need a server, you should know how to admin one on the CLI - phpmyadmin is a ncie web based mysql admin app.
[05:06] <rc55> Subhuman: something like the windows server administration console, a central location for managing users, computers, shares, printers etc
[05:06] <ro1> thanks
[05:06] <ifireball> Alakazamz0r: try removing the 'Option         "DPMS"' line see what happens
[05:06] <lakin> I typically use DIA for diagrams, but it's so buggy.  What is the diagram editor of choice for ubunteros these days?
[05:07] <ro1> netpython: yeah wireless
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[05:07] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[05:07] <Subhuman> lakin, like flowcharting?
[05:07] <Shaddar> i prefer gnome (it's appearance)
[05:07] <Subhuman> i use Kivio for that.
[05:07] <Walm> hello
[05:07] <Walm> i have a question about mailman
[05:07] <lakin> Subhuman: General diagrams.  Geometric shapes, arrows, lines etc.  I'll try kivio
[05:07] <Walm> could somebody help me?
[05:07] <Walm> plz?
[05:08] <netpython> Walm, State the nature of your problem
[05:08] <scythe128> cant help of you dont tell us what the problem is walm
[05:09] <jobless_> jbroome it feezes just after unpacking the kernel!
[05:09] <guillem101> I'm dealing with an opteron laptop. when I place the 64bit cd, it complains saying it is a 32bit system. However, after starting with 32bit CD, the system info app says the CPU is a K8 Athlon64/Opteron
[05:09] <rich_> can anyone tell me how to completely get rid of kiba-dock and kxdocker?
[05:09] <IA-Outdoors> how do I find the device name of my wireless card.  ndiswrapper -l confirms the driver is loaded and hardware is present
[05:09] <guillem101> (laptop is about 1 year old)
[05:09] <IA-Outdoors> iwconfig doesn't show a valid device with wireless extensions
[05:10] <Walm> well when i configure a maillinglist in my browser , it doesn't save the settings into the cfg file
[05:10] <ro1> IA-Outdoors: no it doesnt
[05:10] <Riot777> anybody here with fresh Ubuntu (not kubuntu) install ?
[05:10] <rc55> Riot777: me, dapper, just patched
[05:10] <IA-Outdoors> ro1: uh, so what am I to do?
[05:10] <ro1> IA-Outdoors: you can try lshw -C
[05:10] <Riot777> rc55: tell me do you have /opt directory by default ?
[05:10] <Riot777> in your / root dir
[05:11] <rc55> Riot777: I'll just boot it, it's a VM
[05:11] <Riot777> ah ok
[05:11] <Walm> for example when i change the subject_prefix into foo and i press the submit your changes button , after reloading of the page the setting is still the same as before
[05:11] <Shaddar> scythe128 : are the aspects of user-friendlyness and existing update-databases nearly the same at adept / synaptic ? or are there any profoundly differences betwenn them ?
[05:11] <CheshireViking> Can anybody tell me why Rhythmbox Music player plays Mp3's at double speed (or more)? all the tracks sounds as though the singer's been breathing in helium, they play ok in gxine
[05:11] <netpython> Walm, It would help to know which browser you're referring to
[05:11] <scythe128> how fresh riot, I installed about a week back
[05:12] <IA-Outdoors> ro1 what value is -C expecting?
[05:12] <guillem101> the wi-fi card has been detected (I have eth1 :-))) ) How do I search for wireless ?
[05:12] <rc55> Riot777: I'm booting it, it takes 2/3 mins
[05:12] <ifireball> CheshireViking: I had this happen to me with some fuged files...
[05:12] <Riot777> ok
[05:12] <Walm> netpython : ie6.0 and firefox
[05:12] <Riot777> scythe128: do you have /opt dir there ?
[05:12] <Riot777> in / root dir
[05:12] <ro1> IA-Outdoors: it's specific to listing hardware re: you network connections
[05:13] <guillem101> or perhaps, how do I scan for wireless networks?
[05:13] <sgorilla71> guillem101: kismet
[05:13] <xgm> what repo is needed to install firestarter ?
[05:13] <scythe128> shadder, it doesnt matter, gnome is used in ubuntu, kde is used in kubuntu... they both use synaptic though
[05:13] <CheshireViking> ifireball: i wondered that, but they're files that work fine on other players
[05:13] <rc55> Riot777: /opt is there
[05:13] <sgorilla71> guillem101: airodump
[05:13] <oneseventeen> how do I keep my ubuntu server's console from going black after inactivity?
[05:13] <Riot777> ok
[05:14] <NChief> I tried to install ubuntu 6.10(x64), and first of all, after i pressed start ubuntu from the boot CD the loading screen was black/white.. and second after the loading, the monitor turned it self of..(no signal) I tried serval monitors and safe graphics mode.... I have a ATI x800 gfx. amd athlon64 3000+.. 1024mb ram..
[05:14] <scythe128> shadder, the only difference in the systems is the window manager, so its more which are you more comfortable with
[05:14] <rc55> Riot777: it is empty though
[05:14] <Riot777> ty
[05:14] <Shaddar> oh ^^ so my repositories for adept work in ubuntu too ? @ scythe128
[05:14] <xgm> what repo is needed to install firestarter ?
[05:14] <scythe128> note likely
[05:14] <cherubiel> guillem101: iwlist <interface> scan
[05:14] <guillem101> sgorilla71, thanks, I'll try them later on, since they seem not to be available at liveCD
[05:15] <cherubiel> !firestarter
[05:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:15] <cherubiel> !info firestarter
[05:15] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:15] <guillem101> cherubiel, thanks a lot (No scan results) (I guess it is OK here)
[05:15] <netpython> NChief, i have that black&white too on amd64, they are working on it
[05:15] <feihung> Hello, I have question I have external harddrive 200 giga, I formatted with reiserfx from ubuntu , my problem is I can read the drive but can not write to it, please help
[05:15] <cherubiel> xgm: ^^
[05:15] <Toma-> is there a procedure to enable upstart on a dist-upgraded ubuntu?
[05:15] <xgm> whoot ?:D
[05:15] <NChief> netpython: ok, thx
[05:15] <scythe128> shadder, not liketly, you should uncomment the repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list and that will give you a massive amounts of software
[05:15] <cherubiel> guillem101: it depends, do you have the drivers installed OK ?
[05:15] <ro1> IA-Outdoors: How's the progress
[05:15] <netpython> NChief, np
[05:15] <IA-Outdoors> ro1: there is no logical name tied to my wirless, though, I see the card listed
[05:16] <guillem101> cherubiel, ifconfig -a shows eth1
[05:16] <cherubiel> guillem101: yo, thats good :)
[05:16] <guillem101> cherubiel, I have done nothing but placing the liveCD !!
[05:16] <IA-Outdoors> I see both my ethernet card and wireless.  ethernet has eth0, wireless has nada
[05:16] <ro1> IA-Outdoors: ok this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[05:16] <cherubiel> guillem101: its pretty neat, most wireless works out of the box
[05:16] <Shaddar> ok, thanks scythe ... then i'm going to test ubuntu :)
[05:16] <guillem101> cherubiel, however I never used a wireless card before, so I was asking to make my mind up
[05:16] <Alakazamz0r> nothing... im gonna do some googling.
[05:17] <guillem101> let's install
[05:17] <Alakazamz0r> is there a way to log on to my companies PDC w/ubuntu?
[05:17] <feihung> Hello, I have question I have external harddrive 200 giga, I formatted with reiserfx from ubuntu , my problem is I can read the drive but can not write to it, please help
[05:17] <cherubiel> guillem101: it works like any other OS, if not better .. i've been on wireless ever since i installed dapper :P
[05:17] <guillem101> die winxp, die muuuhahhahhaha
[05:17] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, what wireless card do you have?
[05:17] <IA-Outdoors> netgear wg511v2
[05:17] <IA-Outdoors> I had this working earlier this week under gentoo
[05:17] <jrib> feihung: what permissions are on it?
[05:17] <CarinArr> my thinkpad wifi card was working out of box, my desktop ones took some.. tweaking;)
[05:18] <cherubiel> guillem101: there is a package called wifi-radar, there is a daemon as well ... install and get your wireless autoconfigured at boot
[05:18] <IA-Outdoors> yeah, support for this card sux...I have to use ndis
[05:18] <BlackTopBum> Any Xubuntu users on this channel currently?
[05:19] <feihung> jrib: how I can cek the permission for this drive I have typed sudo chmod 777 /media/usbdisk
[05:19] <ailean> BlackTopBum, go to #xubuntu
[05:19] <guillem101> cherubiel, OK, I've taken a note about these tools. I thank you very much. I guess I may ask further questions in several hours (or perhaps tomorrow) :-)))
[05:19] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, where does it fall exactly?
[05:19] <IA-Outdoors> what do you mean?
[05:19] <BlackTopBum> ailean - thanks !
[05:19] <cherubiel> feihung: type 'mount'
[05:20] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, how far does it work, does ndiswrapper find it okay
[05:20] <cherubiel> feihung: you' prolly have to mod your /etc/fstab
[05:20] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, sorry if you've already said, wasn't paying attention;)
[05:20] <IA-Outdoors> ndis says it's installed and hardware detected
[05:20] <mikefoo> So I have 4 drives raided, raid 1 on /boot - I had a drive die, so I replaced it, but system only boots with the three working drives, not the new one installed. it hangs at "GRUB" - What can I do to boot system so I can cp partition table and add back to the array?
[05:20] <jrib> feihung: try 'touch /media/usbdisk/foo'
[05:20] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, and modprobing ndiswrapper goes okay?
[05:21] <cherubiel> IA-Outdoors: you should try madwifi, the Anthros chipset *is* supposed to be supported
[05:21] <feihung> I just type mount and it shows /dev/sda8 on /media/usbdisk-1 type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[05:21] <St_MPA3b> !xgl
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:21] <IA-Outdoors> cherubiel: I did that once upon a time but it wasn't working on older 2.6 kernels
[05:21] <cherubiel> IA-Outdoors: ah..
[05:21] <IA-Outdoors> in fact most the googling I see has most people using my card under ndis
[05:21] <cherubiel> St_MPA3b: try beryl
[05:22] <IA-Outdoors> CarinArr: you are on to something.  modprobe ndiswrapper fails
[05:22] <strabes> wiki.beryl-project.org #ubuntu-xgl
[05:22] <cherubiel> feihung: is there an entry corresponding to this mount in fstab?
[05:22] <IA-Outdoors> does ubuntu not provide ndis support in kernel by default?
[05:22] <ailean> why isn't tomboy in the menu by default?
[05:22] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, are you using the packaged ndiswrapper or own compile?
[05:22] <IA-Outdoors> packaged
[05:22] <CarinArr> to get my ndiswrapper working i had to compile them manually
[05:23] <IA-Outdoors> hrm
[05:23] <jrib> ailean: it's meant to be run as a panel applet I believe
[05:23] <CarinArr> cause modprobe kept failing no matter what i did;)
[05:23] <ailean> jrib, i see it now :)
[05:23] <Hattori> i can't run x server and internet doesn't work =( how to access to usb?
[05:23] <bronze> mikefoo:
[05:23] <ailean> And what happened to the menu editor that was in dapper?
[05:23] <netpython> !ndiswrapper
[05:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:23] <IA-Outdoors> CarinArr: were you getting something like ndiswrapper.ko Invalid Argument
[05:23] <netpython> !ndis
[05:23] <IA-Outdoors> netpython: ?
[05:23] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, i can't remember to be honest, could have been
[05:24] <netpython> just checking
[05:24] <CarinArr> ia-outdoors, basically i was looking at several guides and for troubleshooting with my problems all said "try recompiling"
[05:24] <IA-Outdoors> well, I guess I'll try doing that then
[05:24] <CarinArr> it was very straightforward to compile tho
[05:24] <feihung> jrib yeah it's working the file is there but I can not copy and paste to this drive ??? what is touch
[05:24] <smartmovie> offline !
[05:24] <Hattori> !usb
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Hattori> how to access to usb?
[05:25] <Hattori> from terminal
[05:25] <jrib> feihung: touch creates a blank file among other things.  Are you trying to copy to a subdirectory or something?
[05:25] <cherubiel> Hattori: most usb devices are emulated as scsi, try mounting sda1 etc
[05:25] <feihung> I just copy one text file to there
[05:26] <jrib> feihung: it should work, paste the output
[05:26] <Hattori> cherubiel: can you give me the escat command please?
[05:26] <xchat81> Hi all
[05:26] <feihung> jrib I can write the blank file confused but can not paste file to it
[05:26] <Hattori> escat=exact ;}
[05:26] <cherubiel> Hattori: try to do a mount /dev/sda1 /somefolder
[05:26] <xchat81> Is there anyone with an HP laserjet 1020?
[05:26] <dudanogueira> how can i detect the wireless connections on my range?
[05:27] <ro1> i have a slightly deeper issue with my wireless
[05:27] <jrib> feihung: try 'cp ~/somefile /media/usbdisk', what does that say?
[05:27] <rednaxel> hi all
[05:27] <ro1> can someone help
[05:27] <scythe128> where are my .deb's downloaded to?
[05:27] <scythe128> using apt of course
[05:27] <dudanogueira>  i installed the network-manager-gnome, but cant see how to run it
[05:27] <graveson> i am starting xsane and it opens and just closes , how can i troubleshoot this
[05:27] <cherubiel> dudanogueira: install wifi-radar or kismet
[05:27] <jrib> scythe128: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:27] <dudanogueira> scythe128, /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:27] <XiXaQ> If I copy ~/.evolution, ~/.xchat and ,~/.gaim then I can get back all configurations, logs and other user data for those applications and just put them into a new edgy system?
[05:28] <scythe128> thanks
[05:28] <dudanogueira> XiXaQ, probably
[05:28] <dudanogueira> XiXaQ, you have to figure out for where the program send the files.. usually, it sends to .directory
[05:28] <IA-Outdoors> CarinArr: that was it
[05:28] <IA-Outdoors> recompiled ndis and I'm gold
[05:29] <Hattori> cherubiel: it says me i have to specify the kind of filesystem
[05:29] <cherubiel> Hattori: what device do yo have?
[05:29] <feihung> jrib: thanks yeah it's working from terminal , why I can not do it from nautilus
[05:29] <Hattori> usb storage key
[05:29] <Hattori> fat
[05:29] <cherubiel> Hattori: was it mac os(hpfs) formatted or vfat?
[05:29] <IA-Outdoors> so under ubuntu what's the trick to get ndis added on boot and have the windows drivers loaded automatically along wtih the write config settings?
[05:29] <rednaxel> last night I installed the latest NVIDIA driver, Version: 1.0-9629 - and managed to get Beryl working, all wonderful... today the X does not start anymore, complains about different versions of kernel modules
[05:29] <cherubiel> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /somedir
[05:29] <xgm> Hello, how to share internet connection from eth0 to eth1 using iptables? Im doing this becouse my other pc(os: win xp) is conected by cable from eth1, so i want to make connection sharing, but i dont know how. can anyone help me ?
[05:30] <jrib> feihung: try closing nautilus and opening it again, maybe it needs to refresh what it thinks the properties are (maybe 'reload' works too)
[05:30] <xgm> I would be very thankfull
[05:30] <ailean> what happened to the menu editor that was in dapper?
[05:30] <ro1> hey i ran a lshw and found this  *-network:0 DISABLED
[05:30] <dooglus> what's the package name that will let firefox display chinese characters OK, rather than as 4 hex digits in a square?
[05:30] <ro1> how do i enable it
[05:30] <magical_trevsky> does anyone know if ubuntu has a similar program to chkconfig, and if so, what it's called?
[05:31] <boink> dooglus: look in view -> character encoding in your firefox
[05:31] <rednaxel> anyone here managed to get AIGLX/Beryl working with Edgy and NVIDIA 1.0-9629 ?!?
[05:31] <ro1> i tried modprobe nut i dont know what the name of the module is
[05:31] <guillem101> rednaxel, i do
[05:31] <guillem101> (64bit)
[05:31] <guillem101> but I do
[05:31] <cherubiel> magical_trevsky: that is supposed to check the status of daemons/services, right?
[05:31] <guillem101> no problems, and I've reboot some time ago
[05:31] <rednaxel> guillem101, did you compiled your kernel or something?
[05:32] <magical_trevsky> cherubiel, yeah
[05:32] <cherubiel> magical_trevsky: if yes, /etc/init.d/<sscript> status
[05:32] <Hattori> cherubiel: works.. how to copy an entire dir?
[05:32] <guillem101> rednaxel, I was using nvidia installer but I used the repositories later on
[05:32] <feihung> jrib: OK thanks :-)
[05:32] <xgm> I would be very thankfull
[05:32] <xgm> Hello, how to share internet connection from eth0 to eth1 using iptables? Im doing this becouse my other pc(os: win xp) is conected by cable from eth1, so i want to make connection sharing, but i dont know how. can anyone help me ?
[05:32] <guillem101> rednaxel, arre you using the installer??
[05:32] <magical_trevsky> cherubiel, I want to use it to add a new service though
[05:32] <rednaxel> guillem101, yes
[05:32] <jrib> feihung: np
[05:32] <rooks> hello all
[05:32] <magical_trevsky> cherubiel, where I would normally use 'chkconfig --add'
[05:32] <rednaxel> guillem101, is there a repo with version 1.0-9629 ?!?
[05:32] <guillem101> rednaxel, then the problem may be that you have upgraded your kernel
[05:33] <guillem101> rednaxel, yes, there are repos
[05:33] <boink> magical_trvsky: man update-rc.d
[05:33] <guillem101> let me check
[05:33] <rednaxel> guillem101, it's a fresh install of Edgy
[05:33] <timawa> i have issues on using dapper as router, caching dns server. Router can ping internet hosts but not from workstation. I can, however, use dig on internet hosts from the workstation.
[05:33] <boink> chkconfig doesn't exist in debian/ubuntu
[05:33] <magical_trevsky> boink, thanks
[05:33] <Walm> netpython: thought about mailman? (A)
[05:33] <Walm> !info mailman
[05:33] <cherubiel> Hattori: cp -r ?
[05:33] <ubotu> mailman: Powerful, web-based mailing list manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1.8-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7824 kB, installed size 36552 kB
[05:33] <boink> mailman works quite well
[05:33] <boink> and it gives the users a nice webinterface
[05:34] <boink> but my favourite ML is ezmlm :)
[05:34] <guillem101> I cannot reach the mouse right now... rednaxel , check the beryl home page, at the wiki they have the repos for the drivers
[05:34] <PapaLion> how can I play a cue/bin without burning a cd?
[05:34] <boubar> have used mailman for a long while.  very stable, never had any issues with it
[05:34] <boink> it's good, yeah
[05:34] <Walm> boink or boubar do you know why i cant same changes from the webinterface
[05:34] <Walm> same=save
[05:34] <guillem101> rednaxel, alternatively you might run "nvidia-installer" and get gujded by the program. I guess it will compile the kernel module
[05:34] <graveson> i am starting xsane and it opens and just closes , how can i troubleshoot this
[05:35] <xgm> Hello, how to share internet connection from eth0 to eth1 using iptables? Im doing this becouse my other pc(os: win xp) is conected by cable from eth1, so i want to make connection sharing, but i dont know how. can anyone help me ?
[05:35] <boubar> Walm: What happens when you try to save changes?  error msg or any sort?
[05:35] <Walm> boubar: nothing at all , even not in /var/log/mailman/error
[05:35] <guillem101> xgm, firestarter does the trick for you
[05:35] <cherubiel> magical_trevsky: you should try /etc/rc.local, which is executed after every boot; not sure on other methods - sorry.
[05:35] <ro1> what is the standard module name for a wireless card ?
 what repo should i add to install firestarter ?
[05:36] <cherubiel> !info firestarter
[05:36] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:36] <cherubiel> xgm: ^^
[05:36] <guillem101> xgm, I don't know if it is universe or multiverse
[05:36] <scythe128> anyone using guarddog?
[05:36] <guillem101> oh
[05:36] <boubar> Walm: Weird... see what your apache logs say
[05:36] <scythe128> or firestarter?
[05:36] <Walm> it looks to me it doesnt write to /var/lib/mailman/lists/sharpo/config.pck
[05:36] <ro1> i cannot do a modprobe without knowing, can someone please help
[05:36] <guillem101> cherubiel, you are my hero :-)
[05:36] <xgm> cherubiel: what ?
[05:36] <cherubiel> nah, i'm just a guardian angel ;)
[05:36] <LinAsH> ro1, there is not, it depends of your card
[05:37] <cherubiel> xgm: its universal
[05:37] <guillem101> xgm, universe
[05:37] <cherubiel> xgm: you can try !info <package>
[05:37] <Walm> [Thu Nov 09 10:15:57 2006]  [error]  [client <IP_ADDRESS>]  script not found or unable to stat: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/icons, referer: https://walm.xs4all.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
[05:37] <xgm> !info firestarter
[05:37] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:37] <netpython> scythe128, shorewall
[05:37] <xgm> so i just need to write into terminal: sudo apt-get install firestarter ?
[05:37] <scythe128> !shorewall
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:37] <netpython> scythe128, i can help you with the setup if you want
[05:37] <xgm> and afther that run it ?
[05:37] <guillem101> xgm, firestarter is a very simple gtk app that lets you do such simple configurations without hassle
[05:37] <Walm> boubar: or attempt to invoke directory as script: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/
[05:38] <ro1> LinAsH: ok, going to do a bit more research will be right back
[05:38] <cherubiel> xgm: apt-get update; after you add the repos to /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:38] <cherubiel> xgm: then try apt-get install firestarter
[05:38] <guillem101> xgm, you run firestarter (with sudo) and the setup wizzard is self-explanatory
[05:38] <scythe128> Well, I am just toying with it right now and was wondering about peoples opinion
[05:38] <Walm> boubar: looks it is going to a wrong director
[05:38] <zoetrope666> hello all
[05:38] <scythe128> shorewall, is the the fork of ipcop/smoothwall?
[05:38] <jbroome> no
 how to know what repos should i add ?
[05:39] <netpython> scythe128, http://www.shorewall.net/
[05:39] <ro1> LinAsH: how do i find it out... the module name based on the name of my card
[05:39] <cherubiel> xgm: try !info <package>, it WILL show the repo
[05:39] <boubar> Walm: strange indeed. I do remember when I installed it, I had to do some manual items as well...
[05:39] <xgm> !info firestarter
[05:39] <scythe128> thanks for the link
[05:39] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:39] <cherubiel> ro1: start with lspci,
[05:39] <xgm> and ?
[05:39] <Hattori> i need linux-headers for my build. i don't have interent access on linux box, so i have to put on a usb storage key. where can i download linux-headers i need?
[05:39] <cherubiel> xgm: . In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:39] <Walm> boubar: probably used a guide / howto?