[07:38] <adante> does anybody use apt-file? i can't get it to update because it says it can't get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Contents-i386.gz
[07:38] <Fryguy--> s3a: no idea
[07:39] <unop> s3a, because ubuntu has made concessions about firefox and has come to an agreement with mozilla -- while debian has to adhere to the DFSG and social contract
[07:39] <Jester45> s3a: because ubuntu isnt limited like debian ubuntu can enclude firefox
[07:39] <mr_daniel> I am working on reduce the power-consumption of my notebook
[07:39] <mr_daniel> is there a command I can check how many watts my notebook is consuming at the moment?
[07:39] <Fryguy--> mr_daniel: no
[07:39] <heyan> my screen always turns black when i open webpage. it is very annoying
[07:39] <K-Ton> Jester45: yes, it is. I have tried http, ftp downloads. It does drop when i'm using the update manager. I also tried my neighbor's connection, and it happens there too.
[07:40] <Shoopuf> Anyone use CHM Viewer?
[07:40] <unop> Shoopuf, yes, but what is the real question?
[07:40] <s3a> Jester45: unop: would it be a good brainstorm idea to make iceweasel or icecat or wtv the main browser at least ONLY in free software only mode? (wen u press f6 twice on boot)
[07:40] <mr_daniel> Fryguy--: ok
[07:40] <Jester45> K-Ton: and this is with a fast server. my dedicated server gets under 100kb/s on the repo some times
[07:41] <rand0m> unop, its not working.. i got an error.. how about i just delete that folder and we'll start over ?
[07:41] <^White^> 0_0
[07:41] <Fryguy--> rand0m: what is the error
[07:41] <^White^> Cucbku !
[07:41] <Calaaro1> This might sound like a silly question, but I'm only new to Ubuntu. There's a few audio options in the sound menu. How do I know which controls my actual sound? I have a SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit card. And is there any way to relabel them to make sure I know which is which?
[07:41] <^White^> ))
[07:41] <rand3sk> Fryguy--, mv: missing destination file operand after `/wbar-1.3.3'
[07:41] <rand3sk> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[07:41] <Shoopuf> unop: I downloaded CHM Viewer to view a .CHM file... There's two vertical panes: the "sidebar" and the actual "content" pane. But the text goes off the bottom off the window in the "content" pane and there doesn't seem to be any way to scroll down to read the rest of it??
[07:41] <Fryguy--> Calaaro1: trial and error, and no
[07:41] <Jester45> s3a: if you dont like firefox dont use it... its there by defualt because most users want it or dont care
[07:41] <Fryguy--> rand3sk: sudo mv /wbar-1.3.3. ~
[07:41] <Calaaro1> Fryguy--: Thanks for putting it bluntly. :P
[07:42] <Gazingson> I am trying to put code in wine to have it run a program on a cd
[07:42] <avis> Shoopuf, you can try another chm viewer, see if it does it too
[07:42] <Gazingson> how do i do that
[07:42] <s3a> Jester45: well i do like it but i want to support this free software ideology
[07:42] <Gazingson> what's the path
[07:42] <K-Ton> Jester45: yes it is a fast server, i have tried many ways.
[07:42] <earlmred> free software?!
[07:42] <earlmred> HAH.
[07:42] <earlmred> Free software will never be successful.
[07:42] <Fryguy--> Gazingson: if wine is installed correctly, you should be able to just double click on the setup file on the cd
[07:42] <rand0m> just took me to another line
[07:42] <tritium> earlmred: stay on topic, please
[07:42] <L815> earlmred, tell that to google
[07:42] <K-Ton> Jester45: I have had this problem for half year
[07:42] <Fryguy--> rand0m: so then it's successful
[07:42] <Gazingson> well fryguy then something is wrong
[07:42] <rand0m> ok cool
[07:42] <Fryguy--> rand0m: cd ~/wbar-1.3.3
[07:42] <avis> earlmred, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <Gazingson> let me try again
[07:42] <Rat409> s3a: google Gnusense
[07:43] <earlmred> avis: you take it to ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:43] <rand0m> Fryguy--,  nice, k im in there
[07:43] <Jester45> earlmred: then leave this channel and BTW free software runs most of the internet... freenode this irc network is free software
[07:43] <Fryguy--> rand0m: and since you decided to make that stuff owned by root, sudo chown -R james ~/wbar-1.3.3
[07:43] <unop> s3a, personally, i don't think it's something worth hassling about - firefox is free, it fits into ubuntu's definition of free software
[07:43] <earlmred> Jester45: netcraft confirms linux is dying and IIS is winning.
[07:43] <L815> earlmred, why waste time of others, just because yours is of no value (so it seems).
[07:43] <tritium> earlmred: last warning.  Stay on topic.
[07:43] <rand0m> Fryguy--, if its owned by root, its a mistake.. does that line correct it?
[07:43] <unop> earlmred, serisously offtopic
[07:44] <avis> !ops | earlmred
[07:44] <Fryguy--> rand0m: yes
[07:44] <s3a> unop: ok well can i atleast get iceweasel or wtv from the repositories?
[07:44] <rand0m> Fryguy--, k done.. it just took me to the next line again
[07:44] <Fryguy--> rand0m: yay
[07:44] <Fryguy--> rand0m: now type make
[07:44] <earlmred> have fun with your noobuntu.
[07:44] <unop> s3a, i don't think so
[07:44] <rand0m> Fryguy--, lots and lots of error.. ill pastebin
[07:44] <Jester45> K-Ton: does this only happen with this computer/ linux and have you tried axel? its like wget but multi connections
[07:45] <avis> i'm sorry if i called the ops too early he was just being ugly
[07:45] <tritium> avis: no worries
[07:45] <s3a> unop: :( is it possible to get it tho? like if i compile it maybe?
[07:45] <Jester45> lol that guy was funny wasting his time in here
[07:45] <s3a> unop: am i asking stupid questions?
[07:45] <rand3sk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25380/
 i got it dude
[07:45] <Jester45> ty tritium
[07:46] <Fryguy--> rand0m: hahahaha, this is gonna be not fun at all
[07:46] <s3a> mahesh: k, thats good :)
[07:46] <rand0m> Fryguy--, haha oh no what'd i do ?
[07:46] <Fryguy--> rand0m: especially since i dont' use ubuntu and don't know the names of all of the development packages you need
[07:46] <K-Ton> Jester45: only with this computer, it's a notebook. I have used debian, and it worked neither. I don't know what axel is, can you tell me more please?
[07:46] <tritium> No problem.
[07:46] <unop> s3a, well, as far as i know, it is only available to debian -- you could download the debian source package and compile it for your system - but be prepared for any surprises
[07:46] <mahesh> s3a: do you know how to share files using pidgin
[07:46] <Fryguy--> rand0m: sudo apt-get install x11-dev or something (maybe xorg-dev)
[07:46] <rand0m> should i do that from the main dir ?
[07:46] <s3a> mahesh: conversation-->send file
[07:46] <Fryguy--> rand0m: do it from wherever
[07:47] <rand0m> k
[07:47] <rand0m> sudo apt-get install xll-dev
[07:47] <rand0m> err lol
[07:47] <rand0m> wow
[07:47] <unop> rand3sk, you could just do this.   sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox
[07:47] <Fryguy--> rand0m: i have typed FAR FAR worse into irc channels :/
[07:47] <renoboy> what is a good torrent downloader?
[07:47] <Fryguy--> renoboy: i like rtorrent
[07:47] <K-Ton> Jester45: i have tried the speed test at http://www.speedtest.net/, ping is okay, but my speed is 300-400 kbps. My connection is 20mbps
[07:47] <Fryguy--> renoboy: also check out azureus, transmission, and deluge
[07:47] <Fryguy--> renoboy: and ktorrent
[07:48] <mahesh> s3a:   my friend says he is not able to share file with me from gtalk (he's using windows)
[07:48] <Jester45> K-Ton: have you used wget? its a simple commandline downloader but axel opens multipule connections just run axel url://ofsomelargefile
[07:48] <rand0m> ahha k building dependcy trees now
[07:48] <rand0m> i can't get over how rad you guys are
[07:48] <rand0m> a few years ago when id come around linux rooms asking for help, i'd get flamed like ten
[07:48] <frold> what is recommanded when you have a totally fresh hardy install... any changes I need to do...?
[07:48] <L815> lol
[07:48] <Jester45> K-Ton: is this speed lan speed also? or just when connecting to an internet source
[07:48] <Bacta> Why does Firefox take a longer time to start under Ubuntu than under XP?
[07:48] <Fryguy--> frold: www.ubuntuguide.com
[07:49] <L815> Bacta, xul is a hog :P
[07:49] <unop> K-Ton, don't forget to divide 20Mbps by the number of contenders on that line
[07:49] <Bacta> well is there anyway of fixing this?
[07:49] <Fryguy--> i <3 my 20mbps connection
[07:49] <dgregory> ?
[07:49] <Fryguy--> Bacta: how long does it take in windows, and how long does it take in ubuntu
[07:49] <frold> Fryguy--: seems to be .org :D
[07:49] <L815> Bacta, give it a bit of time. After a while it should boot up quicker
[07:50] <Fryguy--> frold: ok
[07:50] <Bacta> about 3 seconds in XP, 8-10 in Ubuntu
[07:50] <Jester45> frold: thats very opionated but i suggest making sure your audio works and video is working good then get multi media codecs if you watch movies or listen to music
[07:50] <L815> isn't there a package that caches things to boot them faster?
[07:50] <L815> like preload or something
[07:50] <nano_> Bacta, stability >> system overall speed, i would prefer anyday
[07:50] <L815> you could always use Opera, very fast
[07:50] <Bacta> nano_: Ubuntu is about as stable as XP for me. both crash
[07:50] <rand0m> a ha.. not that i've done that build-dep fluxbox thing
[07:50] <Orbur> ?
[07:50] <rand0m> typing 'make' actually did something
[07:50] <Bacta> evince crashes all the time
[07:50] <Bacta> taking my entire system with it
[07:51] <unop> rand0m, not?
[07:51] <nano_> Bacta, when XP crashes it is a mystery, when linux crashes you can determine exact cause and fix it
[07:51] <rand0m> *now
[07:51] <rand0m> its all good
[07:51] <nano_> Bacta, y does your system crash?
[07:51] <unop> rand0m, right :)
[07:51] <rand0m> after "make" whatdo I do? it seems to have .. made everything ?
[07:51] <rand0m> :P
[07:51] <nano_> Bacta, have you checked your system logs?
[07:51] <Bacta> nano_: I've had a bug filed for evince several weeks now. No fixes yet
[07:51] <Fryguy--> rand0m: sudo make install
[07:51] <LMJ> hello the chan
[07:51] <rand0m> k done
[07:51] <Fryguy--> rand0m: now type wbar
[07:51] <unop> rand0m, well, you should really be following the instructions as per the README / INSTALL file
[07:52] <nano_> Bacta, so your system crashes when you are trying to use evince to view pdf's
[07:52] <L815> does anyone know if compiz + video will work better with intel cards in the next release of ubuntu/
[07:52] <rand0m> unop, oh ok i didnt know i was back on track
[07:52] <Bacta> nano_: Certain pdfs take it's member usage upto 1.5 gigs.
[07:52] <Fryguy--> L815: seems to work fine in this release
[07:52] <Bacta> it's a well reported bug but there have been no fixes
[07:52] <s3a> mahesh: i dont no wat to say but sometimes file transfer has problem for me 2 with certain ppl
[07:52] <nano_> what is member usage?
[07:52] <unop> rand0m, you should be ok -- but it's a good practise to follow the right instructions
[07:52] <s3a> mahesh: use an email to send stuff for now
[07:52] <Bacta> *memory
[07:52] <unop> practice*
[07:52] <L815> Fryguy--, it works decently, except when I move the video or a menu pops up it turns blue ;o
[07:52] <rand0m> unop, : i tried doing that first :p.. s'what got me into a mess
[07:53] <mahesh> s3a: its all right thankyou
[07:53] <rand0m> for some reason, i 2nd guess, 3rd guess, and then need to ask questions
[07:53] <unop> rand0m, i seriously doubt that :)
[07:53] <Blue_Shoe12> are there really 1207 users here???
[07:53] <s3a> mahesh: sry
[07:53] <L815> 1235 is what i got :p
[07:53] <rand0m> in any case...
[07:53] <rand0m> another error
[07:53] <Fryguy--> Blue_Shoe12: vast majority are idle, but yes
[07:53] <s3a> Blue_Shoe12: many r probly inactive
[07:53] <unop> rand0m, whats that?
[07:53] <Blue_Shoe12> haha, lovely crew
[07:53] <Bacta> people say Linux is so much more stable etc. but so far that's not been my experience :(
[07:54] <crdlb> L815: "you're doing it wrong"
[07:54] <Blue_Shoe12> anybody talking come from australia?
[07:54] <mahesh> s3a: ok... its becoz both of them has to use the same type of messenger application
[07:54] <L815> crdlb, what do you mean?
[07:54] <crdlb> L815: with EXA, you should be able to use Textured Xv
[07:54] <unop> Bacta, Linux is -- gnome isn't - big difference
[07:54] <crdlb> which means no blue overlay
[07:54] <rand3sk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25382/
[07:54] <L815> crdlb, you mean using x11 output?
[07:54] <crdlb> L815: no
[07:54] <K-Ton> Jester45: on LAN the speed is acceptable,300-400kb/s
[07:54] <Bacta> well KDE isn't any better
[07:54] <rand3sk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25382/  unop
[07:54] <s3a> mahesh: no, my gf uses windows and i get no problems with her but sometimes with others i have problems
[07:54] <Fryguy--> Bacta: linux is just a kernel, the software you choose to run on top of it affects it's stability
[07:54] <Bacta> and will probably be forked soon
[07:54] <L815> crdlb, xgl seems to work, but it's buggy when fullscreen, opensuse's xgl works a tad bit better
[07:55] <L815> on my system that is
[07:55] <crdlb> L815: you're not using that now are you?
[07:55] <mahesh> s3a:  ok..
[07:55] <Bacta> ok, rephrase: Why is Ubuntu more unstable than XP?
[07:55] <s3a> mahesh: im just tryin to not point u in wrong direction..
[07:55] <L815> crdlb, no i'm using aiglx now
[07:55] <unop> rand0m, sounds like wbar is using an old IMLIB API - meaning, it's probably too old to run
[07:55] <Jester45> K-Ton: if your getting 300-400 kb/s on lan thats all you can get with internet as your internet traffic goes though the lan
[07:55] <s3a> Bacta: be more precise
[07:55] <crdlb> L815: Xgl is dead, and suse seems to do AIGLX rather badly sometimes :)
[07:55] <unop> rand0m, what is wbar?
[07:56] <Fryguy--> Bacta: maybe you have a hardware configuration that ubuntu isn't good with?  "unstable" is a pretty generic term.  What metric are we using to measure it?
[07:56] <L815> crdlb, well it's the past now, because I'm back to ubuntu :)
[07:56] <mahesh> s3a:: thats ok
[07:56] <Jester45> Bacta: that would be the system its running on linux is much much more stable for me
[07:56] <rand0m> unop, a dock/launcher similar to that of os-x.. im using fluxbox right now & can't handle just the one bar it comes with
[07:56] <daYZman-w> hi
[07:56] <L815> i have to admit that ubuntu's aiglx is ahead of suse's :P
[07:56] <Fryguy--> rand0m: you should check out avant-window-navigator too
[07:56] <daYZman-w> does anyone know how to upgrade from ubuntu 8 hardy to ubuntu ultimate 1.8?
[07:56] <crdlb> L815: do you have an Option "AccelMethod" line in your xorg.conf (Device section)?
[07:56] <rand0m> i did.. i have it on my gnome desktop, but couldn't get it going with fluxbox
[07:56] <Fryguy--> daYZman-w: ubuntu ultimate is a completly unsupposed version of ubuntu
[07:56] <crdlb> daYZman-w: that's no upgrade
[07:57] <Bacta> ok im out
[07:57] <Fryguy--> unsupported*
[07:57] <mahesh> thank you bye
[07:57] <L815> crdlb, i'll check when i boot up ubuntu , currently not on it
[07:57] <Josdell> Hi everyone, I have two partitions on my drive, one boots with GRUB, One boots with syslinux. How do I make it that the one with GRUB boots and the syslinux doesn't, can I do this by taking the boot flag off of the syslinux partition?
[07:58] <unop> rand0m, i would use AWN if i were you - or use something similar like fbpanel or idesk
[07:58] <x3> I have ebox firewall installed but cant access its GUI
[07:58] <crdlb> L815: if it has an AccelMethod XAA line, that would explain why it's using the hardware overlay instead of textured video
[07:58] <K-Ton> Jester45: no, for example with d4x download manager can download with 1,8mb / sec, for a minute, or for more, but then it slows down too. And it really downloads the data. And if i stop it, and return, it downloads again fast.
[07:58] <rand0m> unop, i tried using awn.. couldn't get it going with fluxbox
[07:58] <unop> rand0m, why won't it play nice?
[07:58] <Fryguy--> unop: i think avant needs a compositor running.  fluxbox = no compiz = no compositor
[07:58] <rand0m> it seems to install just fine
[07:59] <L815> crdlb, if it is there, do I remove it or replace it with something else?
[07:59] <Fryguy--> rand0m: try running xcompmgr, it might fix things
[07:59] <unop> hmm
[07:59] <crdlb> L815: but to answer your original question, I think that may improve in intrepid, particularly since the radeon driver supports textured video now, so they can work the kinks out a bit more thoroughly
[07:59] <rand0m> i read all that in online tutorials
[07:59] <L815> isnt xcompmgr buggy?
[07:59] <jedimind> how would you go about changing the font color on the main panel in ubuntu ?
[07:59] <K-Ton> Jester45: i have ran today apt-get update, it says i have to download 100mp updates, i clicked okay, and it downloaded 1mb/s, and half way it slowed down.
[07:59] <Fryguy--> L815: yes
[07:59] <dynamethod> what does it mean when ubuntu locks up and the caps lock and scroll lock lights on the keyboard flash on and off?
[07:59] <rand0m> i did sudo apt-get install xcompmgr
[07:59] <crdlb> L815: either remove it or change it to EXA
[07:59] <rand0m> buuut not sure how to use it if i need to
[07:59] <Fryguy--> rand0m: lol
[07:59] <Fryguy--> rand0m: i'm completely guessing btw
[07:59] <L815> crdlb, i'm thinking it will improve in interprid, i mean it did for hardy :)
[08:00] <Josdell> Hi everyone, I have two partitions on my drive, one boots with GRUB, One boots with syslinux. How do I make it that the one with GRUB boots and the syslinux doesn't, can I do this by taking the boot flag off of the syslinux partition?
[08:00] <rand0m> Fryguy--, lol its all good.. your guess is way better than mine
[08:00] <Fryguy--> !repeat | Josdell
[08:00] <L815> Fryguy--, is it still being developed?
[08:00] <Fryguy--> L815: no idea
[08:00] <L815> crdlb, thanks for the help :)
[08:00] <syntropy> Does anyone know if AMD ships their programming manuals like Intel does?
[08:00] <crdlb> L815: EXA is the big factor in this, since textured video cannot work with compiz using the old XAA mode
[08:00] <K-Ton> Jester45: i'm using ubuntu for a year, and sometimes the speed is okay and stable, and sometimes it's not.
[08:00] <ali__> Hi, I am using aptproxy on my work, It works. but new updates will not be updated on client machines
[08:00] <crdlb> and EXA used to be very slow
[08:01] <Jester45> K-Ton: the ubuntu servers are very busy as i said my dedicated 100mbit server gets under 100kb/s its just the ubuntu server cant handle 50,000 people downloading from it at major speeds.
[08:01] <rand0m> unop, fbpanel & idesk.. do u know if those work with fluxbox ?
[08:01] <Fryguy--> rand0m: yes
[08:01] <Fryguy--> rand0m: the fb in fbpanel stands for fluxbox
[08:01] <scort> cat: hey: No such file or directory
[08:01] <scort> cat: how: No such file or directory
[08:01] <scort> cat: do: No such file or directory
[08:01] <scort> cat: i: No such file or directory
[08:01] <scort> cat: install: No such file or directory
[08:01] <scort> cat: ubuntu???: No such file or directory
[08:01] <rand0m> oh duh lol
[08:01] <FloodBot1> scort: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <L815> crdlb, the video plays normally with compiz, only when I move the player, the video output stays in place (causing the blue screen), until the window is stationary, then the video moves to the new area.
[08:01] <unop> rand0m, i use fluxbox and idesk
[08:02] <rand0m> screen?
[08:02] <berkelep> anyone know how to solve this issue with vsftpd? http://pastie.org/228449
[08:02] <K-Ton> Jester45: i understand it, but i have this issue everywhere.
[08:02] <L815> not a big problem, just gets annoying sometimes
[08:02] <scort> cat: ubuntu???: No such file or directory
[08:02] <crdlb> L815: yep, that's because it's using a hardware overlay to put the video directly on the screen, instead of a more modern method
[08:02] <unop> rand0m, screen?
[08:02] <rand0m> sry.. screenshot ?
[08:03] <L815> crdlb, hmm , i read many solutions to use x11 or xv output (maybe it's the same?), but the video is blocky when enlarged :/
[08:03] <unop> rand0m, errm, gimme a sec
[08:03] <Fryguy--> rand0m: lol you don't want to see my screenshot
[08:03] <ali__> how to fine current availabe device nod names ( such as cdroms or hard drives)
[08:03] <L815> crdlb, I'll just suck it up until interprid, or Kde4 is less buggy :)
[08:03] <crdlb> L815: "X11" output means draw the video with no acceleration whatsoever
[08:03] <rand0m> Fryguy--, : may I? im curious to see what you tenured guys use as a setup
[08:04] <L815> crdlb, that makes sense
[08:04] <Fryguy--> ali__: check /etc/fstab for cdroms and stuff, check df for currently mounted devices, and fdisk -l to detect drives and partitions
[08:04] <Fryguy--> rand0m: k
[08:04] <saljs> Shalom all!
[08:05] <L815> crdlb, regardless of the issues, to me the video playback seems 'crispier' than windows, which is always a plus
[08:05] <Fryguy--> rand0m: http://fryguy.rattlesnake.ath.cx:81/screenshot.png
[08:05] <unop> rand0m, http://tinyurl.com/5c6n6e
[08:05] <saljs> Ubuntu is not detecting my iPod. It has always worked before, however, this is a fresh partition and this is the first time i've plugged said iPod into this partition
[08:05] <saljs> Suggestions?
[08:05] <Jester45> K-Ton: well if your LAN speeds are the same its something with your network be it the driver under linux the card your wireless router the wireless signal strength. if other machines work fine then its the driver under linux or the card. if its external try using it on a diffrent machine. if you dont think its the wireless card and your router support ethernet try using a wired connection
[08:05] <L815> saljs, did you try using rhythmbox?
[08:06] <ali__> thanks Fryguy--
[08:06] <saljs> L815: Yes, but the problem lies with the fact that the iPod is not being detected by the computer. It's not in ~/media or on my desktop.
[08:06] <rand0m> Fryguy--, : LOL
[08:06] <L815> saljs, ahh my mistake , i missread
[08:06] <Fryguy--> rand0m: yah
[08:06] <saljs> No problem bud
[08:06] <avis> saljs, there is a good number of ipod specific things i the repo.  one in particular is a ipod diagnostic of sorts, text based, that might be useful.  lsusb might be useful too just to see if it even sees it.  might try lsusb
[08:06] <K-Ton> Jester45: this is a linux-only problem, under windows it's working fine.
[08:07] <rand0m> unop, : is that idesk just on top of the default (but customized) bar  ?
[08:07] <icqnumber> !mp3
[08:07] <saljs> avis: It's not detecting anything I plug in now. I think I might just need to repartition.
[08:08] <Fryguy--> rand0m: like i said, you don't want to see my screenshot
[08:08] <avis> saljs, i think its odd that you just reinstalled and it stopped.  wouldn't think reinstalling would be necessary though might try lsusb first
[08:08] <avis> saljs, wouldn't be necessary, sorry
[08:08] <fenrisx> [h]ardopc sounds familiar.. something to do with quake 3 when i played back in the day.. idk
[08:08] <unop> rand0m, idesk is what draws the icons , just the icons -- the bar is drawn on top of the wallpaper using imagemagick in a script i wrote
[08:08] <L815> saljs, check your /etc/fstab (i think that's it)
[08:08] <CrackWhoreBob> shouldn't nautilus be able to get rid of a read only file ?
[08:09] <L815> saljs, I mean see if there is a listing for mounting your ipod
[08:09] <CrackWhoreBob> btw good evening ladies and gentlemen
[08:09] <Jester45> K-Ton: are you using ndiswrapper? or a not dont yet linux driver
[08:09] <Narlzac85__> I recently replaced my broken motherboard and now when I do a large file transfer over the network, my network connection stops working until I reset the interface. Any suggestions before I reinstall?
[08:09] <Flannel> CrackWhoreBob: deletion is writing
[08:09] <CrackWhoreBob> allow me to introduce myself
[08:09] <rand0m> oh
[08:09] <f3rr311> Hello ne one on
[08:09] <avis> saljs, i think there might be issues with redetection like if it were plugged in when you reinstalled.  i'm thinking in the cases where its disconnected and reinstalled, it would pick it up alright.  not sure what a fix would be though
[08:09] <K-Ton> Jester45: I don't know, i'm using the default driver what is built in ubuntu 8.04
[08:10] <saljs> avis: i think that's the deal.
[08:10] <unop> rand0m, idesk does not draw the bar tho --  it's actually meant to draw desktop icons -- but i got creative and made this
[08:11] <avis> i'm curious if anyone has gotten eve-onlne working in hardy with sound ?  it looks awfully neat
[08:11] <annie_g> Convert .uif to a .iso with ubuntu ? ?
[08:11] <saljs> avis: Yes, I have seen a few people running it.
[08:11] <Jester45> K-Ton: im going to say its a flaky driver that isnt working so good. try getting a newer driver if possible thats the only suggestion i have other than using a new card
[08:12] <kushalsejwal> I created a wrong mountpoint named "music" in /media now when I delete it its gives me error "you dont have privilage" how can I delete that !!!
[08:12] <kushalsejwal> ?
[08:12] <s3a> gparted doesnt resize ntfs partitions?!
[08:12] <K-Ton> Jester45: thank you, i'm going to install ndiswrapper
[08:12] <unop> rand0m, this is actually what idesk does - http://troumad.developpez.com/linux/serveurx/icewm/ecrans/idesk1.jpg
[08:12] <Fryguy--> kushalsejwal: use sudo
[08:12] <kushalsejwal> fryguy: okay and which command???
[08:12] <unop> "how can i delete that?"  ha ha
[08:12] <avis> kushalsejwal, if you unmount it with sudo you wont have to touch the contents which would be liked to a actual working device if its mounted
[08:13] <Fryguy--> kushalsejwal: make sure whatever you have there is unmounted, then sudo rm -rf /media/music/
[08:13] <Flannel> CrackWhoreBob: What don't you understand?
[08:13] <K-Ton> Jester45: after installing this driver have to I do something? Will it be default?
[08:13] <riaal> kushalsejwal: sudo rm -r /media/<foldername>
[08:13] <rand0m> unop, oh just puts icons on the desktop
[08:13] <kushalsejwal> avis: I just created this new mount point with mk dir there is nothing in that
[08:13] <kushalsejwal> its empty
[08:13] <Jester45> K-Ton: make sure your card is supported. also if your using a opensource driver check to see if they have bugs or a newer version is out. also if you feel like it make a bug report your self
[08:13] <hallucinative> Does anyone know if Ubuntu works on AMD Duel cores yet?, last time i tested, it didn't work so well without a bit of messing around and even then it crashed after half an hour :(
[08:13] <Josdell> hi everyone, how can I choose what partition on an USB drive to boot, I'm trying to get a GRUB partition to boot over the syslinux partition.
[08:13] <Rat409> unop: i was curious,so built wbar on hardy,works fine. fwiw i missed the whole convo
[08:14] <avis> kushalsejwal, you can do something like sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[08:14] <Jester45> K-Ton: i dont use wireless so i cant help you with that
[08:14] <unop> rand0m, right, but you can put the icons wherever you like and it'll remember those positions
[08:14] <Flannel> CrackWhoreBob: What do you mean nautilus won't identify it?
[08:14] <K-Ton> Jester45: okay, thanks everything.
[08:14] <unop> Rat409, are you saying you got wbar built on hardy?
[08:14] <CrackWhoreBob> it won't pick it up
[08:14] <nomopofomo> anyone know a good place to go to ask hardware questions?
[08:15] <CrackWhoreBob> i open nautilus and it doesn't see it
[08:15] <Rat409> unop: yes
[08:15] <CrackWhoreBob> so i cann't delete it
[08:15] <CrackWhoreBob> its just file on my desktop
[08:15] <Rat409> i'm in fvwm atm but have normal hardy gnome with several wm's
[08:15] <unop> Rat409, wbar fails on rand0m's machine for some odd imlib reason -- you might like to give him a hand
[08:15] <Flannel> CrackWhoreBob: If its read only, you can't delete it anyway.  Where are you looking?
[08:15] <Jester45> nomopofomo: #hardware
[08:15] <Jester45> nomopofomo: freenode makes channelname guessing easy :)
[08:16] <Rat409> unop: says he needs imlib2-dev
[08:16] <s3a> why cant i resize my drive?? (im respecting space limits)
[08:16] <Rat409> unop: the readme
[08:16] <f3rr311> whatsanyone here fimilar with kde ( i know in wrong room)
[08:16] <nomopofomo> cool :)
[08:16] <Flannel> !anyone | f3rr311
[08:16] <Fryguy--> !ask | f3rr311
[08:16] <CrackWhoreBob> i am looking on my desktop
[08:17] <CrackWhoreBob> why cann't i delete read only
[08:17] <unop> Rat409, errm, we installed all the fluxbox requisites - that includes imlib2-dev too -- he was able to build fine, just that the binary fails
[08:17] <CrackWhoreBob> i got a bunch of files that are read only that i can use but not delete now
[08:17] <CrackWhoreBob> i recently had virus breach awhile back
[08:17] <f3rr311> ok am having a issue when i logout reboot or shutdown using the kde logo button and hiting shut dow  ect..
[08:17] <unop> rand0m, why don't you talk to Rat409 here, he seems to have gotten wbar installed fine
[08:17] <hallucinative> Does ubuntu work on AMD Duelcore?
[08:18] <jbroome> hallucinative: yes
[08:18] <CrackWhoreBob> i take that back
[08:18] <unop> hallucinative, yes
[08:18] <CrackWhoreBob> i don't know
[08:18] <CrackWhoreBob> it could just be guy playing with me
[08:18] <rand0m> Rat409, you've had success installing wbar on fluxbox ?
[08:18] <CrackWhoreBob> i can still use the files but i cann't get this one off my  desktop
[08:18] <Rat409> i did make then sudo make install then ran it as normal user,it didn't generate a user-config so used defaults from /usr/share/wbar,i did copy /usr/share/wbar/dot.wbar to /home as .wbar
[08:18] <unop> CrackWhoreBob, to delete files you need to be able to write to them - deletion is a write operation
[08:19] <CrackWhoreBob> so how can i write this one
[08:19] <chowder> I'm loving the nick
[08:19] <chowder> lol
[08:19] <unop> CrackWhoreBob, give yourself permissions to do that -- right click on the file, properties - permissions  ..
[08:20] <f3rr311> it goes to a black screen with my mouse pointer only and if i try to restart x it make mouse go away and then it just sits ther
[08:20] <Flux-D> Sorry to ask this again but can anyone give me the result of uname -r from the server and destop versions of Ubuntu
[08:20] <trajan> i was wondering if it were possible to source compile (easily) all the packages on a ubuntu system or if there was some sort of repository that had had optimized binaries for your particular architecture?
[08:20] <f3rr311> it is supose to show a bacwards loading bar
[08:20] <CrackWhoreBob> ok
[08:21] <cellofellow> Hi. How do I set the "Hidden" attribute on a file on my FAT32-formatted thumbdrive? Is there some command line utility for manipulating Windows attributes (Read-Only, Hidden) on a FAT32 drive?
[08:22] <trajan> cellofellow: i'm sure theres something in mtools that will do it
[08:22] <cellofellow> ok, I'll look at that
[08:22] <unop> Flux-D, that is a silly request -- it could be anything on another person's machine -- not everyone is running the same version of the linux kernel - some old, some new, some not so old or not so new  -- what are you actually trying to do?
[08:22] <CrackWhoreBob> unop you rock bro lemme try it now
[08:22] <trajan> cellofellow: mattrib iirc
[08:23] <unop> CrackWhoreBob, you puzzle me
[08:23] <trajan> no one knows anything about optimized binaries or source compiling eh?
[08:24] <unop> trajan, sounds like you want to run gentoo instead
[08:24] <cellofellow> trajan: acts weird, thinks it's working with floppies. I have no floppy drive.
[08:24] <trajan> unop: i do actually
[08:24] <trajan> unop: i just wondered if ubuntu had similar capabilities
[08:24] <Flux-D> unop, I am just looking for the default info, I am planning on compiling a new kernel, and wanted to see what one ubuntu default uses
[08:24] <unop> trajan, why compile all packages? that's a waste of time (well, not if you have it) -- takes a good few days
[08:24] <trajan> unop: and i'm not trying to troll
[08:25] <frold> howto found what grafic card I have and howto get the proper drivers?
[08:25] <unop> Flux-D, packages.ubuntu.com should tell you
[08:25] <LSD|Ninja> frold: easiest way is to just use teh hardware drivers panel
[08:25] <Flux-D> unop, whats the package name?
[08:26] <Varak_> # insmod dvbloopback.ko
[08:26] <Varak_> insmod: error inserting 'dvbloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[08:26] <Varak_> how do i fix?
[08:26] <trajan> unop: because with all of the optimizations in my gentoo setup i've noticed a pretty significant performance increase ( at the cost of waiting forever for stuff to compile)
[08:26] <unop> trajan, ubuntu allows you to build stuff from it's source packages -- if you're clever enough, you can script something on top of apt/dpkg
[08:26] <unop> Flux-D, linux-image
[08:26] <LSD|Ninja> sounds like a waste of effort to me
[08:26] <trajan> unop: something similar to source rpms in the redhat world?
[08:26] <LSD|Ninja> trajan: source .debs :P
[08:26] <unop> trajan, yes
[08:26] <CrackWhoreBob> unop you are the man to talk to
[08:26] <trajan> unop: :>
[08:26] <CrackWhoreBob> i am sorry just getting tired and frustrated
[08:27] <Rat409> unop: cool app wbar uses 3 mb ram
[08:27] <CrackWhoreBob> i work late and need to get some sleep
[08:27] <trajan> unop: thanks thats what i was after cheers
[08:27] <CrackWhoreBob> will be back to shoot the bull
[08:27] <LSD|Ninja> If you're into the whole ricing thing though you're probably better off sticking with Gentoo
[08:27] <CrackWhoreBob> maybe contribute to the community because i will be around for awhile
[08:27] <trajan> LSD|Ninja: thanks bud i'll keep it under consideration
[08:29] <f3rr311> Wow i got ran over
[08:29] <unop> Rat409, my idesk uses 4 - but i've got quite a few icons
[08:29] <Flux-D> unop, so if I install the linux-image-2.6.24-16-server or linux-image package, then reboot, and select it from grub I can get the old version back ?
[08:30] <unop> Flux-D, indeed
[08:30] <unop> Flux-D, but beware the server image is optimized for server machines -- not ideal for desktops
[08:31] <Rat409> unop: yes,i've used it before idesktool is nice with it also a gui iirc
[08:31] <frold> LSD|Ninja: when I go til Hardware drivers, I have a restricted ATI driver that I can enable
[08:31] <Flux-D> unop, my box is in a datacenter, they compiled their own version of kernel and use it with ubuntu 8.04, I would like to use the ubuntu default one, will this also work for that?
[08:31] <LSD|Ninja> frold: so enable it :)
[08:32] <f3rr311> CAN Someone help me Please
[08:32] <trajan> out of curiousity, is pretty much everything in ubuntu done in a gui of some sort?
[08:32] <unop> Flux-D, yes -- but you should choose the appropriate one for your machine and the tasks it does - is it a server machine?
[08:32] <Flux-D> f3rr311, ask your question
[08:32] <f3rr311> ihave
[08:32] <LSD|Ninja> trajan: moreorless
[08:32] <Rat409> Flux-D: the current is 2.6.24-19 for desktop
[08:32] <f3rr311> Its up there ^^^
[08:32] <frold> well, how do I know if its the best support grafic driver for my grafic card?
[08:32] <__yy> trajan: can be but doesn't have to be
[08:32] <unop> trajan, yes, since it is catered for the end-user -- but you are not obliged to use a GUI
[08:32] <trajan> LSD|Ninja: that's pretty convenient, no loss of flexibility?
[08:32] <Ayabara> I want to remove old kernels. What do I search for in synaptic?
[08:33] <Flux-D> thanks Rat409
[08:33] <LSD|Ninja> trajan: you still have to use the terminal for more than I'd like but most of that stuff is outside the scope f the target audience anyway
[08:33] <frold> well, how do I know if its the best support grafic driver for my grafic card? LSD|Ninja
[08:33] <LSD|Ninja> trajan: if you want flexibility you use Gentoo, Slackware Debian proepr or whatever
[08:33] <f3rr311> ok am having a issue when i logout reboot or shutdown using the kde logo button and hiting shut dow  ect..
[08:33] <LSD|Ninja> FriedCPU: o/
[08:33] <Flux-D> unop, yes server install, then I installed ubunut-desktop on it for gui and using nx to view gui
[08:34] <f3rr311>  it goes to a black screen with my mouse pointer only and if i try to restart x it make mouse go away and then it just sits there
[08:34] <f3rr311>  it is supose to show a backwards loading bar
[08:34] <unop> Flux-D, right, but what does your machine do primarily? serve content or cater to your desktop needs?
[08:34] <trajan> LSD|Ninja: i see
[08:35] <trajan> now i'm curious to see how well some of these gui tools work
[08:35] <L815> if i get the server install, is all i have to do is apt-get ubuntu-desktop to get a gui working?
[08:35] <Flux-D> unop, kinda both, gui is usually off though but nx runs if I need gui
[08:35] <unop> L815, yes
[08:35] <trajan> i'm assuming they have stuff for at/cron, grub, init, etc etc
[08:35] <cellofellow> trajan: I can't get mattrib actually working :(
[08:35] <unop> Flux-D, then i would say - use the server kernel
[08:35] <L815> unop, hmm what about wireless access before installing a gui?
[08:35] <trajan> cellofellow: the last time i used mtools was probably 8 years ago sorry
[08:36] <unop> L815, you'll need to use a non-GUI way of getting it up
[08:36] <f3rr311> im using kde but there are no ppl in kubuntu that can help atm
[08:36] <cellofellow> I don't know how to get it to access my USB drive (sdb1, using drive J or Z insists on being non-existant sdb4)
[08:36] <trajan> cellofellow: i dont know if theres anything better now for dealing with dos stuff
[08:36] <L815> unop, oh okay, thanks :)
[08:36] <trajan> cellofellow: it doesnt come up a lot for me
[08:36] <Flux-D> unop, so once again grab the server kernel deb, install it reboot and select the new kernel from grub, does this also get me header files to comppile stuff?
[08:36] <cellofellow> probably not, seeing as it's a rare thing
[08:36] <trajan> cellofellow: what's the problem with it though?
[08:37] <trajan> cellofellow: other than it just doesnt work :P
[08:37] <Flux-D> Rat409, u there?
[08:37] <Rat409> Flux-D: yes
[08:37] <cellofellow> trajan: keeps accessing non-existent /dev nodes.
[08:37] <avis> L815, you'd use /etc/network/interfaces for non-gui of wireless.  i think you can man /etc/network/interfaces, google helps too
[08:37] <Flux-D> Rat409, is that hardy or intrepid?
[08:37] <unop> Flux-D, don't manually download and install -- use apt-get -- since it handles all the dependencies  -- yes, reboot and you should be able to choose the new kernel -- no, it does not get the headers to compile stuff -- you need the linux-headers package
[08:37] <Rat409> hardy desktop version
[08:38] <cellofellow> trajan: got it to work, used a symlink for sdb4 pointing to sdb1.
[08:38] <L815> avis, thanks, i think i just might do a server install :)
[08:38] <trajan> cellofellow: :>
[08:38] <unop> cellofellow, what?
[08:38] <Flux-D> Rat409, default ubuntu desktop isntall ?
[08:38] <cellofellow> fooled the program, so who cares?
[08:38] <Rat409> Flux-D: yes
[08:38] <unop> cellofellow, errm, that's really crazy
[08:39] <un_dave> could someone help me out setting up a new printer ?
[08:39] <unop> cellofellow, why don't you just operate on /dev/sdb1 instead of doing this?
[08:39] <trajan> heh kinda it should read the same partition table as everything else
[08:39] <un_dave> i have a laser brother hl-2140
[08:39] <Flux-D> Rat409, from packages.ubuntu.com I see linux-image-2.6.24-18-server as latest
[08:39] <trajan> but hey if it worked it worked
[08:39] <cellofellow> unop: huh?
[08:40] <cellofellow> I am working directly on the disk, not an FS.
[08:40] <Rat409> Flux-D: yes and i said i used std desktop version it upgraded 2 days ago to -19 via apt
[08:40] <Flux-D> Rat409, ah ok so its an update
[08:40] <Rat409> Flux-D: yes default was -16
[08:40] <unop> cellofellow, if you are using mtools -- you need to configure mtools to point J or Z drive to the right device -- not go about creating random symlinks
[08:41] <Flux-D> Rat409, okay cool thanks again
[08:41] <unop> cellofellow, i believe the mtools config file is at /etc/mtools.conf
[08:41] <cellofellow> unop: I couldn't figure it out,
[08:41] <cellofellow> unop: oh, the conf file? I'll do that next time. :)
[08:41] <Dezine> While this sounds like hilarious irony it's annoying.. trying to install windows with virtualbox and.. my screen glitches out, bunch of colors, grid looking thing and I can't do anything but restart. Does it right when it asks me where to install.
[08:42] <un_dave> i get this error when i try to install the .deb file from the brother website - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25385/
[08:42] <avis> can anyone suggest a backup solution, that isn't bash scripts, that will automate the backing up for specific directories, with exclusions, and then update that backup on a daily basis?  when i tried i think its called sbackup, it would create a background tar process that would never complete, resulting in bad .tar.gz files
[08:44] <Flux-D> unop, whats the diff between the -generic and -386 from kernel names?
[08:45] <TtyS2> hi, having trouble downloading files to my laptop with ubuntu 8.04, have checked other ways and know source works, how do i adjust on ubuntu?
[08:45] <Dezine> would love some help this is frustrating
[08:45] <Dezine> While this sounds like hilarious irony it's annoying.. trying to install windows with virtualbox and.. my screen glitches out, bunch of colors, grid looking thing and I can't do anything but restart. Does it right when it asks me where to install.
[08:46] <avis> TtyS2, i dont find it clear what your asking.  there are many ways to retrieve files
[08:46] <MiddleOfNowhere>  How do i manually set my ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway with the cli?
[08:46] <Rat409> Flux-D: i think generic is both single/smp
[08:47] <Flux-D> Rat409, single/smp ?
[08:47] <tanlaan> Hello everyone, I am having some problems with Screem. For some reason or another, it won't completely open anymore. It will just load very slowly and then not come up.
[08:47] <__yy> MiddleOfNowhere: using ifconfig
[08:47] <avis> Dezine, you should try ctrl-backspace before a restart.  that'll restart the xserver.  if that doesn't work there is a key combination sequence that is useful, in not losing data i could get you a link if you want
[08:47] <gerhard> hi i need to copy a dvd9 to two dvd5. which tool should i use?
[08:47] <__yy> MiddleOfNowhere: and route for the default gateway
[08:48] <Dezine> avis, once it goes out I can't do anything
[08:48] <gerhard> the tool should be able to ignore bad sectors
[08:48] <MiddleOfNowhere> how do i set up the command?
[08:48] <MiddleOfNowhere> ifconfig (ipaddress)
[08:48] <MiddleOfNowhere> ?
[08:48] <__yy> MiddleOfNowhere: I suggest you read the man page
[08:48] <avis> right Dezine and there is a key sequence combination when ctrl-backspace fails, to help in the proper shutting down and restart of your system. i'll get a link.  i dont have the solution to your problem though.
[08:48] <MiddleOfNowhere> link?
[08:49] <Dezine> alright
[08:49] <TtyS2> MiddleOfNowhere: man ifconfig in cli
[08:49] <__yy> MiddleOfNowhere: man ifconfig
[08:49] <Rat409> Flux-D: single cpu or symmetric multi-processor as in dual-cores,etc
[08:49] <ctx144k> hello all. is there a way to get ubuntu-server 8.04 cd-image (not version 8.04.1)?
[08:49] <avis> here you go Dezine http://www.brunolinux.com/01-First_Things_To_Know/Skinny_Elephants.html
[08:50] <unop> ctx144k, head to releases.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <avis> Dezine, my mistake.  ctrl-alt-bkspace restarts the xserver.  i dont give it much thought
[08:50] <ctx144k> there i can see only 8.04.1 images
[08:50] <Dezine> oh well
[08:50] <Dezine> maybe my card is on the outs
[08:50] <Flannel> ctx144k: Why do you want the old one?
[08:50] <unop> ctx144k, guess you didn't look too hard eh? :)  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[08:51] <Flannel> unop: Those are 8.04.1 as well
[08:51] <unop> ohh sheesh
[08:51] <unop> :)
[08:51] <unop> excuse me
[08:52] <ctx144k> unop :)
[08:52] <avis> Dezine, one possible solution, if it gets to the point where you might pull the card, if its ati or nvidia, you can use the unsupported envy package, to compile in a very recent driver for you.  at your own risk.  note that if you use it and it works, you'd have to use something like sudo envy -t for to start if after kernel upgrades.  its worth a shot, if your considering retiring hardware
[08:52] <avis> Dezine, you'd use envyng-gtk from the repos, the ones floating around are unsupported
[08:53] <Metatron1> im having difficulty with ltsp-build-client in ubuntu, i use mirror command to point to iso of 8.04 cd, but it fails to fetch with Package.gz in restricted directory, does so with extramirror set to standard repo, anyone seen this? the Package.gz does exsist in the folder
[08:53] <Dezine> avis, I think I need a new card, kind of odd for it to do that. It's done it with Windows too
[08:53] <wiltonstone> here's a brainbuster, for some reason my flash stuff stopped working, i cant see youtube videos anymore
[08:54] <wiltonstone> i think it is because i initialized compiz-fusion effects
[08:54] <wiltonstone> maybe
[08:54] <Chaotic_Descent> how can I get a US web proxy working? someone told me to go get Tor and... I'm getting kinda confused as it wants 2 other apps/plugins and right now I'm trying to install Privoxy. do I get the Debian package?
[08:54] <avis> wiltonstone, i've installed the libflashsupport package in hardy for and it helps things like sound quitting in flash, but the occasional firefox dies still happens every once in awhile.  i've found that for myself using that package is necessary
[08:55] <Metatron1> Tor is an app to annonymize your surfing and net use, is that what u want a proxy for?
[08:55] <gerhard> hi i need to copy a dvd9 to two dvd5. which tool should i use?
[08:55] <gerhard> the tool should be able to ignore bad sectors
[08:55] <Chaotic_Descent> sorta. I just want websites to think I'm in the USA.
[08:55] <trajan> gerhard: tried dvd::rip?
[08:56] <Blaqlight> Metatron1, I believe its k3b you want
[08:56] <SELTERBEATS> Hello?
[08:56] <unop> ctx144k, why do you want 8.04?
[08:56] <trajan> Hello
[08:56] <gerhard> i tried k9copy
[08:56] <Metatron1> Blaqlight:  k3b?  for my ltsp-build-client problem?
[08:56] <gerhard> i wish to have the full quality saved
[08:57] <f3rr311> it is full quality
[08:57] <SELTERBEATS> How do I get here:  IRC channel "##lmms" on irc.freenode.org
[08:57] <gerhard> how? there are 8,5 shrinked to 4,5
[08:57] <trajan> well you can use dvdrip to transcode the dvd9 image to smaller files and then reburn in dvd5...but it's not without loss
[08:57] <SELTERBEATS> I'm new to IRX
[08:57] <Flannel> SELTERBEATS: /join ##lmms
[08:57] <SELTERBEATS> IRC*
[08:58] <trajan> SELTERBEATS: /j ##lmms
[08:58] <trajan> or what Flannel said
[08:58] <gerhard> in windows' clonedvd you have the option to burn double layer discs (8,5) to two dvd5
[08:58] <trajan> gerhard: you're not in kansas anymore
[08:58] <TtyS2> is there any way i can adjust the traffic flow to my nettwork card?
[08:58] <pokerfacepenguin> Chaotic_Descent: have a look here http://www.top20free.com/anonymous_surfing.html
[08:58] <Flannel> ctx144k: Why do you want 8.04?
[08:58] <trajan> TtyS2: yep
[08:58] <f3rr311> try dvd fad decrypter in wine
[08:58] <gerhard> kansas?
[08:58] <chuy_max> SELTERBEATS, /join ##lmms
[08:58] <gerhard> im in germany
[08:58] <wiltonstone> avis: i am still seeing just a white box instead of video
[08:58] <SELTERBEATS> Umm, can someone go in there to make sure I'm in the right place.  Cuz I think I am....
[08:58] <f3rr311> gerhard,  try dvd fad decrypter in wine
[08:59] <TtyS2> trajan: man and then??
[08:59] <avis> wiltonstone, i'm sorry i dont remember the original problem i'll scroll up
[08:59] <trajan> gerhard: euphemism
[08:59] <chuy_max> SELTERBEATS, you are there
[08:59] <trajan> TtyS2: squid
[08:59] <f3rr311> gerhard,  try dvd fab decrypter in wine*
[08:59] <gerhard> yessss
[08:59] <gerhard> but as i have also windows installed i just might use that
[08:59] <SELTERBEATS> How do you know?
[08:59] <trajan> gerhard: what ever blows your hair back :>
[08:59] <chuy_max> SELTERBEATS, whois
[08:59] <f3rr311> dvd fab decrypter should do the trick
[08:59] <avis> wiltonstone, flash isn't playing ?  you have flash installed ?  flashplugin-nonfree ?
[09:00] <wiltonstone> yeah, i installed that
[09:00] <CorpseFeeder> hey.. is this hardware check page reliable at all? http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ only I put my hardware into it and it says yes, my firewire card is supported, yet my laptop begs to differ, refusing point blank to allow the firewire card to work. What went wrong?
[09:00] <Chaotic_Descent> someone told me to use Tor because I asked how to get a working USA proxy, because none of the ones I'm finding seem to work.
[09:01] <avis> i'm sorry wiltonstone its a mystery to me, maybe somebody else knows
[09:01] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: tor works pretty good
[09:01] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: although really slowly
[09:01] <SELTERBEATS> Sweet
[09:01] <f3rr311> any gurus on that have a minute
[09:01] <Chaotic_Descent> great. that site you gave me leads to more proxies that don't work. or I'm doing something wrong.
[09:01] <wiltonstone> avis, i had flash working a while ago, but since then i have made some changes, ill figure it out when I'm more sober thanks for the help
[09:02] <Chaotic_Descent> I know how to search for them. I just can't tell if any of them work. maybe I should get rid of this stupid proxy plugin and just do it straight to firefox. maybe the plugin is screwing up.
[09:02] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: afaik tor only needs privoxy but i know jack and shit about ubuntu and how things work in it. i can say i have tor happily working on other distros
[09:02] <SELTERBEATS> Okay so this is the support channel, but are there support channels for dufferent categories or no?
[09:02] <trajan> i have a tor plugin for firefox :>
[09:02] <exot> hello, I'm trying to debug LDAP authentication by SugarCRM, how can I know if there are ldap packets come to my LDAP server, iptables or sth ?
[09:02] <Flannel> SELTERBEATS: This is a support channel for Ubuntu
[09:02] <trajan> SELTERBEATS: what do you need help with?
[09:03] <Chaotic_Descent> yeah. I was hung-up on how to install privoxy...
[09:03] <SELTERBEATS> Are there different one's
[09:03] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: install or configure?
[09:03] <avis> SELTERBEATS, you need to try and get a /list of channels somehow you can try /list or /list -min 15 -max 200 or /list ubuntu* etc
[09:03] <f3rr311> trajian, try http://xerobank.com/xB_Browser.php
[09:03] <Chaotic_Descent> yeah. how to install.
[09:03] <TtyS2> does squid have a user interface, or purely cli?
[09:04] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: i dont know how ubuntu's package management setup works as i've never used it.
[09:04] <jessica> yay my sabayon dvd is nerly finished burning
[09:04] <SELTERBEATS> So many questions.....why are your names yellow...are you mods?
[09:04] <jessica> i hope i like the system
[09:04] <trajan> TtyS2: it's all cli
[09:04] <TtyS2> thanks
[09:04] <avis> Chaotic_Descent, there is one specific line in privoxy that you need to uncomment it references socks-4a forwarding for <IP_ADDRESS> or localhost.  its documented somewhere
[09:04] <Starnestommy> SELTERBEATS: when someone says something that contains your nick, it gets hilighted
[09:04] <trajan> jessica: i betcha you will :>
[09:04] <Chaotic_Descent> I never understood the difference between the package manager and the add/remove programs.
[09:04] <trajan> jessica: portage is kinda nice
[09:05] <avis> Chaotic_Descent, sorry it should be in /etc/privoxy/config if i remember correctly
[09:05] <SELTERBEATS> Oh haha
[09:05] <jessica> so is apt (comming from ubuntu)
[09:05] <Flannel> Chaotic_Descent: add/remove is a simplified version of a package manager.
[09:05] <Flannel> Chaotic_Descent: It only shows a small subset of the programs available
[09:05] <Chaotic_Descent> guess I should just use the package manager all the time then.
[09:05] <avis> Chaotic_Descent, sudo apt-cache search string is very useful from the command line
[09:06] <Chaotic_Descent> that would explain why I can't FIND things in add/remove programs.
[09:06] <trajan> :>
[09:06] <trajan> jessica: i never got along with the debian way of doing things personally :P but it's a personal taste
[09:06] <jessica> ah ok
[09:06] <trajan> i've heard good things about apt/dpkg
[09:06] <avis> Chaotic_Descent, i dont use it very much myself however i think to see a broader range of things avilable you have to further define your software download preferences in the upper right drop down
[09:06] <trajan> what ever they call it :>
[09:07] <jessica> yer its dpkg and apt
[09:07] <jessica> :)
[09:07] <gerhard> thanks, im going to run dvdfabdecrypter on win
[09:08] <Chaotic_Descent> grrr. Tor's just messing up my connection to adultswim.com. -_-; the internet has no countries!
[09:08] <jessica> its a bit offtipic but, who knows how much fabric softener to put in a washing machine
[09:08] <Flannel> jessica: #ubuntu-offtopic not here, thanks
[09:08] <jessica> damn
[09:08] <jessica> and why the ubuntu offtopic channel
[09:08] <jessica> :S
[09:09] <avis> jessica, this channel is for the support of ubuntu specific things only, anything that doesn't belong here goes to -offtopic
[09:09] <trajan> jessica: i thought fabric softner went in the dryer
[09:09] <trajan> jessica: one sheet of bounce should do it :D
[09:09] <jessica> ah ok
[09:09] <f3rr311> not the liquid kind
[09:09] <trajan> lol
[09:09] <trajan> wtf
[09:10] <trajan> i thought all women were born knowing these things
[09:10] <f3rr311> http://www.downy.com/en_US/index.jsp
[09:10] <f3rr311> lolz
[09:10] <trajan> ahah
[09:10] <f3rr311> Aggggggg
[09:10] <f3rr311> lol
[09:10] <f3rr311> i cant fricking logout of kubuntu l;olz
[09:11] <f3rr311> Chotic, try http://www.downy.com/en_US/index.jsp
[09:11] <Chaotic_Descent> well, looks like  Tor is cockblocking me.
[09:11] <f3rr311> lol
[09:11] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: how so?
[09:11] <f3rr311> Chaotic_Decent, try http://xerobank.com/xB_Browser.php
[09:11] <Chaotic_Descent> I dunno. it's just not working normally on the website. I'm getting a blank page.
[09:12] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: it can be reaaaally slow
[09:12] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm guessing it's disabling something that normal web usage doesn't.
[09:12] <f3rr311> they have the source code should be able to compile
[09:12] <Chaotic_Descent> it keeps loading after FireFox says it's done loading?
[09:12] <trajan> negatory
[09:12] <daya> from where gnome pop up menu appears, for eg. when I connect thru VNC it says, remote computer is connecting , can I disable it,
[09:13] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: are you using the torbutton addon for firefox?
[09:14] <Chaotic_Descent> trajan: yes.
[09:14] <oorochi> im looking to have pptpd startup every time my server does, i cannot find how to add startup entries via the terminal (not sure how its called in ubuntu)
[09:15] <f3rr311> Chaotic_Descent,did u look at http://xerobank.com/xB_Browser.php
[09:15] <Chaotic_Descent> f3rr311: ... isn't that a pay app? no thanks.
[09:16] <f3rr311> no free
[09:16] <f3rr311> xB Browser is the free and open-source anonymous web browser.
[09:16] <anden> #scriptdev.se
[09:17] <Iceman4141>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[09:17] <trajan> Chaotic_Descent: well thats a little weird, usually once you've got every thing setup you just run privoxy and should be good to go
[09:18] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> privoxy and tor rock
[09:18] <Chaotic_Descent> well I'm trying to go on a site that's all java/flash/whatnot up the wazoo so... I dunno. lots to go wrong.
[09:18] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, please describe your errors with some precision
[09:19] <oorochi> found it, update-rc.d, thanks everyone (great distro)
[09:19] <Chaotic_Descent> ... I get a blank web page.
[09:19] <Chaotic_Descent> "Torbutton blocked changed-state history manipulation."
[09:19] <f3rr311> ok am having a issue when i logout reboot or shutdown using the kde logo button and hiting shut down  ect..
[09:20] <rand0m> anyone use enlightenment ? or know how to update it to e17 ?
[09:20] <cgabriel_>  can anyone be kind enough to help me, how to convert rmvb videos to dvd format on ubuntu 8.04
[09:20] <Chaotic_Descent> this is odd. last time it gave me that message but still loaded a blank page with an off-black background. this time it's not even loading that. it's just a white non-page that stopped loading.
[09:20] <shafi> you can try ffmpeg
[09:20] <shafi> see the man page for converting
[09:21] <shafi> if u don't have it install first install it
[09:21] <bazhang> http://bugs.noreply.org/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=638 this is a bug Chaotic_Descent
[09:21] <cgabriel_> can u help me on the installation i'm a newbe
[09:21] <shafi> sudo apt-get install ffmepg
[09:22] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, you may also wish to file with launchpad
[09:22] <Chaotic_Descent> I don't really know if it's a bug.
[09:22] <shafi> sorry ffmpeg
[09:22] <Chaotic_Descent> I have no idea what's going on.
[09:22] <cgabriel_> thanks
[09:22] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, it is listed on the tor buglist page
[09:22] <presto> ive got a external hdd that im trying to access a folder and a html bookmark file on from a previous install but i cant seem to get it to allow me access any ideas gang?
[09:22] <f3rr311> Anyuone here fimiliar with KDE
[09:22] <bazhang> f3rr311, what is your question
[09:22] <_erdem_> #ubuntu-tr
[09:23] <f3rr311> having a issue when i logout reboot or shutdown using the kde logo button and hiting shut dow  ect..
[09:23] <f3rr311> i have asked like100 times
[09:23] <nano_> What switches can I use with ps to get PPID info and STAT info
[09:23] <Chaotic_Descent> so it's a bug and not normal?
[09:23] <f3rr311> it goes to a black screen with my mouse pointer only and if i try to restart x it make mouse go away and then it just sits ther
[09:23] <Chaotic_Descent> I figured it had something to do with the history settings or something... and blocking it stops the web page from loading normally.
[09:24] <s3a> help!! i cant resize my ntfs partition, THERE IS A YELLOW TRIANGLE WITH AN EXCLAMATION MARK
[09:24] <me_girl> askum
[09:24] <exot> hello, how can I monitor if traffic passes through a certain port ?
[09:24] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, when you restore a session it is much more likely to happedn (after killing ff)
[09:24] <bazhang> s3a, caps
[09:24] <s3a> bazhang: it was just to bring out importance..
[09:24] <sawyer__> hello all
[09:25] <f3rr311> #kubuntu is agravyard
[09:25] <bazhang> f3rr311, so you have no way to restart etc except for hard reset
[09:25] <sawyer__> last week i came in with the whole ICQ fiasco and i just came back to say you guys are great
[09:25] <f3rr311> yes
[09:25] <f3rr311> even if  i only  logout
[09:25] <mozzy> i think i have the same prob restarting KDE - i have to ctrl-alt-f1 then from prompt ctrl-alt-del
[09:25] <Chaotic_Descent> bazhang: that's not what's happening to me though.
[09:25] <sawyer__> no less than a few days past and it was fixed for both 7.10 and 8.04 (maybe others i'm not aware of)
[09:25] <sawyer__> you guys are really _really_ intuned with the community and it's needs
[09:26] <sawyer__> so, thanks, and that's all :)
[09:26] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, it is a documented bug; file with launchpad if you want it fixed faster.
[09:26] <bazhang> f3rr311, you have kdm and gdm installed?
[09:26] <f3rr311> kdm
[09:26] <mozzy> this is once you have the black screen with the mouse pointer......
[09:27] <f3rr311> i have inserted a force x  server rrestart into it and it did not hel[
[09:27] <Nofear-Tn> hi all
[09:27] <bazhang> f3rr311, have you checked launchpad buglist for this?
[09:27] <f3rr311> kdmrc
 new to ubuntu and  i dont get to watch youtube videos
[09:27] <Chaotic_Descent> ok... now it's loading. I don't know why. I have no idea what changed. oh wait. I put in a proxy in addition to Tor... gee, I wonder which one it gives priority to.
[09:27] <bazhang> mahesh, install flashplugin for firefox
[09:28] <bazhang> !flash | mahesh
[09:28] <Chaotic_Descent> wow. it's bugging out on me even with Tor disabled.
[09:28] <mahesh> bazhang:  i got gnash
[09:28] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, please give more details then 'buggin out on me'
[09:29] <Nofear-Tn> i have ubuntu server edition, at the moment its working as a getway for my network " how to stop it plz " i dont want it as getway
[09:29] <f3rr311> looking
[09:29] <bazhang> Nofear-Tn, getway? or you mean gateway
[09:29] <Nofear-Tn> yes bazhang
[09:29] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't file bug reports.  I don't keep close tabs on every step I take.
[09:29] <legend2440> f3rr311: have you tried channel   #kde?
[09:30] <bazhang> Chaotic_Descent, well coming here to gripe wont get the problem fixed if you dont want to help document bugs that are bothering you.
[09:31] <Shoopuf> Is there a way to turn off the weather for the International Clocks?
[09:32] <Shoopuf> I don't want my computer downloading the weather every 5 minutes or whatever it is doing. >_>
[09:32] <bazhang> Shoopuf, this is gdesklets or screenlets
[09:33] <PaulEU> hello!
[09:34] <Chaotic_Descent> nevermind. I'm just @#$%ing useless. I was supposed to not stay up all night and it's 4:30am and I'm burning my eggrolls and wasting 2 hours trying to get videos to play online because I'm Canadian instead of American.
[09:34] <PaulEU> I'm doing: dpkg -l linux* and it shows on list: i.e. old kernels deleted (status pn). How can I remove these elements in this list in dpkg?
[09:35] <PaulEU> is it possible?
[09:35] <Nofear-Tn> i need when i stop the squid no one gets internet " now even if squid is off users gets internet, it means my server is working as gateway"
[09:35] <Chaotic_Descent> Sorry. I'll stop.
[09:36] <presto> can someone help me to set acsess to certian files on my external hdd
[09:36] <PaulEU> I ask because I'm using one version and it works good. I want remove old version on list in dpkg. I said that old kernels were removed successfully
[09:36] <Ayabara> I have a wmv file that's ugly in ubuntu but plays ok in windows. Am I missing some codec? w32codecs maybe?
[09:37] <PaulEU> Ayabara: yes, install this package
[09:37] <nikolam> Hi
[09:37] <frold> How do I test if 3D works on my grafic card - Im doing a fresh ubuntu install
[09:37] <nikolam> I want that new written data/dirs in /home/user have permissions belonging only to that user (and maybe group if i want) but no access from others
[09:37] <nikolam> E.G. I want this permissions for new dir: drwx------ but when I make new dir as a user, i get these: drwxr-xr-x
[09:38] <nikolam> frold: Install OpenArena, it is game using 3D
[09:39] <presto> anyone?
[09:39] <rand0m> anyone know what I shoudl put into /etc/apt/sources.list to get the repositories for Enlightenment E17 ?
[09:39] <f3rr311> bazang , https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/212434
[09:39] <LSD|Ninja> frold: glxinfo | grep -i direct will also tell you
[09:39] <f3rr311> thatsd as clos as i can get
[09:39] <Metatron_> frold: try typging glxgers at terminal, i cant rember if it is installed by default or not
[09:40] <f3rr311> yes glxgears is
[09:40] <presto> it is metatron
[09:40] <mahesh> bazhang:  are you there
[09:40] <f3rr311> fglxgeras is not
 iam not able to watch youtube..... i have gnash
[09:40] <Metatron_> glxgears will let him know if 3d is working right?
[09:40] <f3rr311> yes
[09:41] <bazhang> mahesh, install flashplugin as I said earlier
[09:41] <f3rr311> if you have a low framerate
[09:41] <fileinfected> xD
[09:41] <f3rr311> u might want to insstall propritary drivers
[09:41] <nikolam> presto: I am doung the same thing. Command chown user dir -R makes owner of the data and chmod rwx+-ugo data -R sets permissions
[09:41] <presto> i can acsess all but 2 files from my previous linux distro on my external hdd how can i change permissions
[09:41] <mahesh> bazhang:  wat to do to install flash plugin frnd
[09:41] <presto> perhaps in policykit?
[09:42] <bazhang> mahesh, did you not read the link?
[09:42] <presto> ah just saw that nikolam
[09:42] <nikolam> there is also fgl_glxgears
[09:42] <bazhang> !flash > mahesh
[09:42] <rand0m> what are all the window managers that work with ubuntu?  so far i've tried gnome, xubuntu (what's the diff between xubuntu and kubuntu??), fluxbox, and enlightenment... any others ?
[09:42] <Rhorse> rand0m, what release are you wanting to install E17 on?\\\\\\\\\
[09:42] <f3rr311> 5460 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1092.000 FPS
[09:43] <Metatron_> im having problems with ltsp-bild-client im on dial up and want to use ubunto iso as mirror it is mounted correctly but --mirror option to iso complains about not able to fetch Packages.gz for restircted folder, i use --extramirror to standard ubuntu repo and it cant fetch either, anyone seen this?
[09:43] <snadge> wtf happened to the linux-igd package? its vanished :(
[09:43] <presto> what do you have f3rr311
[09:43] <rand0m> Rhorse, : i have ubuntu 8.04.. i just tried installing e17 and it says something about needing feisty.. whatever that is
[09:43] <laughtear> i can't find an application which i've installed by debian packager, anybody help?
[09:43] <nikolam> rand0m, Those are desktop environments. Window managers manage just windows, that`s it.
[09:43] <f3rr311> ATI 9800 XT
[09:43] <f3rr311> Raedon
[09:43] <rand0m> nikolam, okay whatever on terminology.. know any other desktop environments then ?
[09:44] <f3rr311> KDE
[09:44] <presto> f3rr311 i think it should be higher
[09:44] <laughtear> help
[09:44] <LSD|Ninja> 1092fps seems low for a 9800XT...
[09:44] <Metatron_> rand0m: xubntu uses kde i think , ive tried fluxbox , jwm and icewm on ubuntu they work but you are missing some of the gnome features that can make setup difficult, fluxbox jwm and icewm are all lite weight and use smaller amounts of resources
[09:44] <nikolam> rand0m, Difference in in what desktop environment is used by default and rest of management programs
[09:44] <Ayabara> when I add the medibuntu repository, it says it has updates for mplayer/skype/amarok and some others. should I install those?
[09:44] <f3rr311> i know the driver for this card ora bit horrid and no help
[09:44] <Rhorse> rand0m, this site tells you how to do it: http://timony.com/mickzblog/2008/04/15/e17-on-ubuntu-revisited/
[09:44] <Metatron_> you might be missing a desktop too depending on the file manager you use, fluxbox for example doesnt support desktop icons
[09:44] <LSD|Ninja> f3rr311: even so, it should be higher
[09:44] <nikolam> rand0m, I use XFCE. And xfwm4 window manager.
[09:44] <laughtear> i ask for help ladies?
[09:44] <LSD|Ninja> I remember getting 3000-5000 on a 9500 Pro a few years ago
[09:44] <presto> ati has gotten alot better as of recent
[09:45] <rand0m> nice, thanks guys
[09:45] <Mango420> Can anyone tell me how to add "www-data" to the GROUP under permissions? Thanks.
[09:45] <presto> i get almost 4k from a 9600xt
[09:45] <f3rr311> ok
[09:45] <laughtear> this is the third time i have no response from here, did you improved a customer care service or somn' somewhere else
[09:45] <f3rr311> i cant resrt my system so i cant remove the prop drivers from kubuntu menu
[09:45] <f3rr311> lol
[09:45] <Metatron_> rox is a nice filer manger to if you looking to for litghter weight componets, it has a pinboard that supports a desktop with icons, works well with flux jwm or icewm
[09:46] <laughtear> just need a hand because of (probably) rootkit damn viruses
[09:46] <f3rr311> and i have nben asking to no avail
[09:46] <nikolam> rand0m, When you change Wm, Environment stays. For instance when you use compiz, that is done by just changing window manager, not environment
[09:46] <LSD|Ninja> The people with GeForce 4s were doing better but Linux performance wasn't why I bought the 9500 Pro so I didn't really care
[09:46] <Mango420> !group
[09:46] <nikolam> laughtear, This is not payed customer care service.  That is not official Ubuntu..
[09:50] <mahesh> bazhang:  dont mistake me can u send the link again
[09:51] <bazhang> !flash | mahesh
[09:51] <laughtear> nikolam: gimme a couple o' minutes
[09:51] <presto> f3rr311 what cant you restart
[09:51] <f3rr311> Kubuntu
[09:51] <Mango420> !permissions
[09:51] <co0lingFir3> !Gnash
[09:51] <Metatron_> daYZman-w: you could try installing your distro over top of your current, but i suspect you will have a LOT of difficulties, imagine trying to switch Vista to XP by copying over top it, you should fresh install
[09:51] <f3rr311> it locks up before the shutdown reverse loading bar
[09:51] <suprUNKNOWN> any advice on podcasting software?
[09:52] <laughtear> nikolam: i ALREADY found them on synaptic, i installled them, i jus CAN'T FIND THE APPLICATION ON THIS UGLY COMPUTERS DAMN HDD
[09:52] <Nofear-Tn> guys my box is working as a gateway how to stop it
[09:52] <f3rr311> alls you get is a blank screen and if i try to restart x i get nothing
[09:52] <Metatron_> laughtear: does it launch from terminal? if so it is on your hard drive, use a file search
[09:52] <Rhorse> !microsoft windows
[09:53] <daYZman-w> Metatron_, yeah i agree. but do you think if there's a repository somewhere so that i can just download and install it instead?
[09:53] <laughtear> Metatron: no dude, i'm not that retard to use file search, but finding what is an application on ubuntu
[09:54] <leny2010> I have a userid which I can't logon to a Gnome or Gnome Failsafe session (black screen). How do I remove everything Gnomish for that User so I can start again with fresh settings?
[09:54] <|WolF1> Please help, whatever i try to install i get this message at the end:  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:54] <laughtear> this is almost a year, an i still can't see where the applications are on this os
[09:54] <laughtear> F.Ck
[09:54] <bazhang> laughtear, no cursing please
[09:54] <laughtear> sure
[09:54] <bazhang> laughtear, what app
[09:54] <laughtear> f-prot
[09:55] <nikolam> laughtear, Right-click it on synaptic and see under one of tabs WHERE those ugly files are installed :)
[09:55] <laughtear> bazhang: f-prot
[09:55] <bazhang> laughtear, which f-prot
[09:55] <laughtear> bazhang: antivirus for linux
[09:55] <bazhang> laughtear, enter that in terminal
[09:55] <|WolF1> will any one help please?
[09:56] <Mango420> Anyone know where the "group" folder/settings are for permission names?
[09:56] <laughtear> bazhang: nothing changed after typing in terminal: f-prot
[09:56] <bazhang> laughtear, alt f2 gnome-terminal and type which f-prot
[09:57] <Frogzoo> leny2010: remove ~/.gnome & ~/.gnome2 should do it
[09:57] <laughtear> bazhang: nothing changed either (after doing alt f2, wrting f-prot in the box)
[09:57] <misieq> laughtear: "which f-prot"
[09:57] <bazhang> laughtear, you are not paying attention
[09:57] <rand0m> how do I know if i have hardy, gutsy, or feisty ?
[09:57] <laughtear> misieq: yes, i am
[09:58] <laughtear> sorryy
[09:58] <Flannel> rand0m: lsb_release -a
[09:58] <bazhang> lsb_release _a rand0m
[09:58] <|WolF1> can any one read what i write?
[09:58] <Metatron_> random help about
[09:58] <LSD|Ninja> |WolF1: no
[09:58] <|WolF1> Please help, whatever i try to install i get this message at the end:  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:58] <laughtear> bazhang: yes i do pay attention, i need to get rid of viruses, and maybe rootkits on my drives
[09:58] <bazhang> oops
[09:58] <bazhang> -a
[09:58] <Toznoshio> how can I get the same look and feel seen here for my Ubuntu? http://bp3.blogger.com/_GCuWJp-Uzpk/SD6lsFXP5gI/AAAAAAAAAfI/3PQQHGESQlA/s400/Screenshot-FlexRSS-2.png
[09:58] <rand0m> okay so if i'm using hardy vs feisty or gutsy.. what's the diff? (could it be the reason i can only run enlightenment (with gnome) and not with kde ?
[09:58] <bazhang> laughtear, then install clamav
[10:00] <bazhang> Toznoshio, leave a comment on his blog asking which theme or check gnome-look.org
[10:00] <Toznoshio> bazhang: OK, thanks, I'll do that
[10:00] <Rhorse> |WolF1, have you chkd your sources.lst is up to date, and done an update?
[10:01] <bazhang> laughtear, apt-cache search rootkit for apps to deal with that
[10:01] <laughtear> bazhang: i have that clamav thing; it just locks out, or just can't find nothing the things which f-prot could find in windows
[10:01] <avis> laughtear, chkrootkit, is one of them, in the repos
[10:01] <bazhang> laughtear, is this a mail server for windows machines?
[10:01] <Wol1> Rhorse: when ever i do update and do : sudo apt-get install i get the same answer at the end  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:01] <rand0m> correct me if i'm wrong, but are "gutsy", "feisty" and "hardy" just sorta codenames for releases sorta along the lines of how OS X is like panther, tiger, leopard, ?
[10:01] <Mango420> Anyone know why this isn't working? alias@ABC123:/media/disk$ sudo chown alias:www-data /media/disk/www
[10:01] <Mango420> chown: changing ownership of `/media/disk/www': Operation not permitted
[10:02] <bazhang> rand0m, yes
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Mango420: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <laughtear> avis: this is also one app installed (chkrootkit) but i can't find it to use
[10:02] <bazhang> laughtear, run from terminal
[10:02] <rand0m> bazhang, cool, thanks
[10:02] <bazhang> np
[10:02] <laughtear> no, it is not
[10:02] <avis> laughtear, yes you do 'chkrootkit' from terminal
[10:02] <laughtear> avis: ok, i'll try
[10:03] <bazhang> laughtear, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:03] <laughtear> bazhang: hard heron
[10:03] <bazhang> laughtear, is this linux mint?
[10:03] <Rhorse> Wol1, are your repos up to date?
[10:03] <bazhang> !info f-prot
[10:03] <laughtear> bazhang: no it is not, this is hardy heron
[10:03] <avis> it was nice that ubuntu updated the cd images.  in case some of you were unaware of that.  the updated cd has the final firefox, for those who didn't want the beta
[10:04] <|WolF1> Rhorse: i do all updates when they come out
[10:04] <bazhang> and the ssl fix :)
[10:04] <laughtear> avis: chkrootkit works, did something, but i've no idea what are they, is there a log file or some?
[10:04] <bazhang> laughtear, there is no real threat of viruses on linux
[10:04] <morbyte> does a Intel GMA X3100 support compiz? -- any comments on Samsung Q45-Aura T5550 Tisla ?
[10:05] <bazhang> morbyte, ask in #compiz
[10:05] <avis> laughtear, i dont know laughtear.  you'd have to scroll back, make sure you have a big enough buffer, it might have a log, i'm unaware of it
[10:05] <morbyte> bazhang: ok
[10:05] <Rhorse> |WolF1, paste the full output of sudo apt-get update to ubuntu paste bin.
[10:05] <bazhang> !paste | |WolF1
[10:06] <r16k> Hai, I'm using Ubuntu
[10:06] <hybridiZed> hai
[10:06] <laughtear> okay, guys, thank you for response (even it was a little hard(l)y you're my hero(n)s...
[10:06] <laughtear> =)
[10:06] <hybridiZed> r16k - good choice  :)
[10:06] <leny2010> FrogZoo, tried removing .gnome and .gnome2 and still get the same problem. During logon I get a message saying Assistive Technology has been requested but can't be started try installing AT-SPI, it is installed.
[10:06] <laughtear> gotta go now
[10:07] <rand0m> man i'm absolutely loving ubuntu... all the options i have in switching WM and DE .. more customization options than i could dream of, and all are so easy (with the help of this #).. hate to sound lame & gushy but wow.  Ubuntu ftfw
[10:07] <avis> rand0m, cool :)
[10:07] <bazhang> rand0m, come tell us in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:08] <babo> how do i forcibly reload my local dns cache again ?
[10:08] <|WolF1> Rhorse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25397/
[10:08] <mahesh> bazhang: i have installed flash plugin still i dont get it
[10:08] <suprUNKNOWN> I felt all cool getting the desktop looking like it look like OSX, but now I can't make it look like it used to
[10:08] <bazhang> mahesh, you restarted ff?
[10:08] <mahesh> ya i did
[10:08] <mahesh> bazhang: ya i did
[10:09] <Rhorse> |WolF1, that is not the output from sudo apt-get update.  Paste the output from sudo apt-get update please.
[10:10] <|WolF1> just a sec
[10:10] <bazhang> about:plugins in ff address bar mahesh
[10:10] <Ajkul1> Hello I have a problem, can someone help me with that?
[10:10] <bazhang> Ajkul1, need a question
[10:11] <babo> how do i forcibly reload my local dns cache again ?
[10:11] <|WolF1> Rhorse: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/25398/
[10:11] <Ajkul1> I'm using songbird but it is now frozen. What can I do to turn it off
[10:11] <erichammond> babo: Do you know what dns server /caching server you are running?
[10:11] <Ajkul1> BTW sorry for my english
[10:11] <simi> hi, i have a .avi file that when i play it in kubuntu it has sound but a blue background(i tried vlc, mplayer kmlayer) but in indows xp it works fine(with vlc and windows media player) what can i do to make it work in linux?
[10:12] <babo> flush dns or something like that ...
[10:12] <bazhang> simi, you tried disabling compiz
[10:12] <babo> erichammond, why does that matter ? I just want to flush the named daemon ...
[10:12] <erichammond> babo: Ah, so you're running bind9 :)
[10:12] <babo> erichammond, BIND 9.4.1-P1
[10:13] <suprUNKNOWN> ajkul go to system>administration>system monitor
[10:13] <simi> bazhang: yes i disabled compiz
[10:13] <erichammond> babo: Have you tried: /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[10:13] <dylan_> HALLO
[10:13] <bazhang> simi, you have all the codecs installed?
[10:13] <erichammond> babo: Generally does it for me, but then I find that there are DNS servers upstream with caches I can't affect.
[10:13] <babo> erichammond, i could. but i'm specifically looking to flush ...
[10:14] <erichammond> babo: Ok.
[10:14] <Ajkul1> suprUNKNOWN: Thank you. It's donw
[10:14] <Ajkul1> done*
[10:14] <CorpseFeeder> How do unload modules loaded with modprobe?
[10:14] <bazhang> rmmod
[10:14] <Guest4248> how can i sign in to msn with ubuntu
[10:14] <babo> erichammond, rndc reload
[10:14] <babo> thanks
[10:15] <simi> bazhang: i do not know, i just installed the players and them ask for codeks if they need
[10:15] <Ajkul1> Another quoestion. Why I can't install XGL. I get this error package is broken. BTW I'm using gOS linux but it is ubuntu based
[10:15] <erichammond> babo: Thank you
[10:15] <bazhang> simi, try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras, then go to www.medibuntu.org and getting w32codecs
[10:16] <bazhang> Ajkul1, gos is not supported here
[10:16] <babo> erichammond, can i ask you a favor ? Are you getting a 404 from flowerhour.mobi ?
[10:16] <Ajkul1> ok, sorry
[10:16] <bazhang> Ajkul1, get the real thing :)
[10:16] <Rhorse> |WolF1, OK I think it looks alright.  Why don't you see if you can install a simple program like the editor joe. Try sudo apt-get install joe and see what happens.
[10:16] <erichammond> babo: Random person on the Internet also says: rndc flush
[10:17] <babo> erichammond, :-)
[10:18] <|WolF1> Rhorse:  when i do update with update manager and click install this is what i got at the end http://paste.ubuntu.com/25399/
[10:18] <Ajkul1> I can't instal it because of this error with floppy disk
[10:18] <bazhang> Ajkul1, install what
[10:18] <Ajkul1> ubuntu
[10:18] <bazhang> Ajkul1, tell us the exact error and we can try to help
[10:19] <erichammond> babo: Not a 404, I'm getting Python errors and stack trace.
[10:19] <|WolF1> Rhorse: and when i did what u tell me sudo -apt-get install joe i got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25400/
[10:20] <Ajkul1> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[10:20] <babo> erichammond, oops :-)
[10:21] <BoomShaka> hello. I was wondering if anyone could help me to get my mic working on my dell1720 hardy installation. Its rather confusing with "Capture", Capture1, Digital, etc/... any help appreciated
[10:21] <Rhorse> |WolF1, try deleting the lock file.
[10:21] <timandtom> I've got one of my drives(Actually, iPod) with an ext3 partition, and a FAT32 partition. Can I delete the ext3 and merge the empty space with the FAT32 without losing my data?
[10:21] <|WolF1> Rhorse: how can i do that pls?
[10:23] <Rhorse> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[10:23] <babo> erichammond, i still just get a 404 ...
[10:24] <babo> i've reloaded the dns cache. the dns records are fine.
[10:24] <|WolF1> Rhorse: i deleted lock file and i do as u told and error of dpkg again here it is the whole log http://paste.ubuntu.com/25401/
[10:25] <presto> how would i change permission on a couple of files in my external hdd
[10:25] <bazhang> Ajkul1, have you tried the alternate cd? there is a thread here on your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438923&page=4
[10:26] <Ajkul1> No, I haven't try the alternative CD, I will try. Thank you
[10:27] <bazhang> Ajkul1, also adding the boot param
[10:27] <bazhang> oh he left
[10:27] <nikolam> presto with chmod command . See man chmod for manual. Or just right click on directory and set them
[10:27] <presto> ajkul1 i had problems with 7.10 installing and used sucsessfully the alt cd
[10:27] <CorpseFeeder> hi.. I almost got my firewire port working in Kino then it gave up again. I don't know what happened, but my cam showed up in the IEEE1394 tab, and I could start and stop the tape, but could not capture anything and the capture window remained blank black. Then it just stopped working completely and now there is nothing listed in the IEEE1394 tab of Kino. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[10:27] <Rhorse> Is evolution part of your distro or did you try installing it yourself?
[10:28] <SlimG> My RAID5 array is beeing resynced (/proc/mdstat says so), what is a resync? why has it been triggered? and might it be one of my disks in the array that is about to throw in the towel?
[10:28] <|WolF1> Rhorse: i don't even know what is it for :(
[10:29] <Rhorse> |WolF1, so it's part of your distro, I take it?
[10:29] <|WolF1> Rhorse: i know that when ever i try to install anything or even update it says that there is some dpkg error
[10:29] <nikolam> SlimG, its about normal thing. When I don`t shut down properly, my raid1 does the same
[10:29] <|WolF1> Rhorse: u can tell me how to check and i will, but probably it is ...
[10:30] <Rhorse> |WolF1, I'm curious, type joe and see if the editor was installed.
[10:30] <CorpseFeeder> hi.. I almost got my firewire port working in Kino then it gave up again. I don't know what happened, but my cam showed up in the IEEE1394 tab, and I could start and stop the tape, but could not capture anything and the capture window remained blank black. Then it just stopped working completely and now there is nothing listed in the IEEE1394 tab of Kino. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[10:30] <|WolF1> Rhorse: it opened editor when i typed joe
[10:31] <Finnish> http://stashbox.org/153245/Rakkauden%20Amatialaiset%20-%20Who%27ll%20stop%20the%20rain.wmv
[10:31] <r16k> Whats the magic command to search apt-get
[10:31] <Finnish> Some music for sunday
[10:31] <r16k> I want the opengl-devel packages
[10:31] <daYZman-w> if i want to install hardy over my gutsy installation, can i just format / and leave the original /home? my /home is in a different partition
[10:32] <vox> daYZman-w: you can just dist-upgrade gusty to hardy
[10:32] <mokka> daYZman-w: go on thats what I did..
[10:32] <CorpseFeeder> what is the magic command to get my dv camera working?
[10:32] <daYZman-w> vox, well i want to do a fresh install because somehow the wireless driver screwed up big time
[10:33] <daYZman-w> mokka, i see. so you just assigned a new / and a new swap, right?
[10:33] <mokka> daYZman-w: no, only / I deleted.. swap and /home are same..as previous in gusty..
[10:33] <SlimG> r16k: apt-get search opengl
[10:34] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> !flikr
[10:34] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> son of a
[10:34] <CorpseFeeder> I tried to do a "sudo damn-well-start-ya-bugger" in the terminal window, but alas the camera still won't work. Any other ideas?
[10:34] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> !flicker
[10:34] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> how do i correct screen resolution?
[10:34] <daYZman-w> mokka, i see. but if i delete swap as well, it shouldn't have much of an affect, right?
[10:35] <CorpseFeeder> hi.. I almost got my firewire port working in Kino then it gave up again. I don't know what happened, but my cam showed up in the IEEE1394 tab, and I could start and stop the tape, but could not capture anything and the capture window remained blank black. Then it just stopped working completely and now there is nothing listed in the IEEE1394 tab of Kino. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[10:35] <mokka> daYZman-w: I think, in fresh install we are creating swap seperately, so why you want to delete that?
[10:36] <bazhang> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto Obi_Bong_Kedoobi
[10:36] <daYZman-w> mokka, hmm ok thanks
[10:36] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> sweet thanks bahzang
[10:36] <r16k> SlimG: thanks
[10:37] <mokka> daYZman-w: have a smooth install..
[10:37] <daYZman-w> mokka, thanks
[10:37] <CorpseFeeder> I guess the relevant helpers are all offline.
[10:37] <SlimG> r16k: np
[10:38] <leny2010> I have a user who can't login to Gnome or Failsafe Gnome even after deleting the user and home directory.  Is this something gconf?
[10:38] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: whats up ?
[10:39] <lkthomas> hey guys
[10:39] <lkthomas> if I am using standard P4 desktop ubuntu, what kernel should I use ?
[10:39] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, .. I almost got my firewire port working in Kino then it gave up again. I don't know what happened, but my cam showed up in the IEEE1394 tab, and I could start and stop the tape, but could not capture anything and the capture window remained blank black. Then it just stopped working completely and now there is nothing listed in the IEEE1394 tab of Kino. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[10:39] <fent> weird...i cant get to the firefox page
[10:39] <lkthomas> the generic one ?
[10:39] <ikonia> lkthomas: the default installed one
[10:39] <LSD|Ninja> lkthomas: whatever it instals for you
[10:39] <lkthomas> ikonia, generic ?
[10:39] <ikonia> lkthomas: yes
[10:39] <lkthomas> I installed server one :P
[10:39] <fent> can anyone else get to the firefox download page?
[10:39] <lkthomas> shit, let me install generic
[10:39] <bazhang> lkthomas, yes
[10:39] <Tux2K8> hello. how can I check if fail2ban is running in the background????
[10:39] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: first thing is look at the syslog and dmesg, see why it went away
[10:39] <ikonia> lkthomas: there is no need for that lagnauge
[10:40] <lkthomas> :P
[10:40] <bazhang> err fent yes
[10:40] <ikonia> lkthomas: I'm not laughing
[10:40] <lkthomas> anyway
[10:40] <fent> thats even stranger
[10:40] <fent> it keeps directing me to mozilla.com/firefox
[10:40] <bazhang> fent what do you need to do
[10:41] <fent> i was trying to get ff3 for work here
[10:41] <mokka> fent: are you looking for firefox debian package?
[10:41] <ikonia> fent: what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:41] <fent> umm 8.1
[10:41] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, I could do that, unfortunately I speak english and dmesg speaks gobbleygook - I don't know what any of the output means or what I am looking for.
[10:41] <ikonia> fent: 8.04 ?
[10:41] <fent> yeah
[10:41] <fent> there ya go :)
[10:41] <bazhang> fent #ubuntu+1 for 8.10
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: firefox 3 is already installed
[10:42] <fent> yeah i was getting it for work here
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: for work ?
[10:42] <fent> yeah
[10:42] <fent> i work at an isp
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: you already have it
[10:42] <f3rr311>  Major opcode of failed request:  146 (ATIFGLEXTENSION) that make sense
[10:42] <fent> yes on this machine at home
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: it's already installeded "for work" ?
[10:42] <fent> i'm at work trying to upgrade my pc to ff3
[10:42] <f3rr311> ?
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: so what OS is your work machine running ?
[10:42] <fent> windows :)
[10:42] <fent> sadly
[10:42] <ikonia> fent: so why is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[10:43] <bazhang> fent then go to ##windows
[10:43] <ikonia> fent: why are you asking in an ubuntu support channel
[10:43] <fent> i just asked if anyone could get to the page
[10:43] <ikonia> fent: again - nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:43] <ikonia> fent: you work for an ISP, there must be a lot of networking/internet support there
[10:43] <fent> web pages have nothing to do with it?  why are you making this difficult
[10:43] <ikonia> fent: and tools for diags
[10:44] <ikonia> fent: your question and support request has nothing to do with ubuntu or the ubuntu support community.
[10:44] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, do you want me to pastebin my entire syslog and dmesg?
[10:44] <fent> i didnt ask for support just a simple can anyone get to the page
[10:44] <ikonia> fent: thats support
[10:44] <ikonia> fent: and yes, I can get there
[10:44] <fent> ok cool
[10:44] <fent> all i wanted to know
[10:44] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: seems over kill, is there anything obvious in either
[10:44] <fent> not to argu with you
[10:44] <ikonia> fent: perhaps find a better generic support channel for that sort of request in future
[10:45] <fent> ook...
[10:46] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, there is stuff which mentions 1394 in both, but nothing in either looks obvious to me.
[10:46] <f3rr311> HEY  Major opcode of failed request:  146 (ATIFGLEXTENSION) neone  ever get this
[10:46] <ikonia> f3rr311: ati drivers
[10:46] <BoomShaka> Hello. Is anyone here able to point me in a direction to try to solve why my mic doesnt work on my hardy dell1720?
[10:46] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: stick the 1394 lines in, and a few lines above and bellow them (pastebin)
[10:47] <f3rr311> yes
[10:47] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, ok
[10:47] <ikonia> f3rr311: thats an issue with the ati drivers,
[10:47] <f3rr311> i know im tring to run sudo aticonfig --initial
[10:47] <ikonia> f3rr311: where did you get the ati drivers
[10:49] <f3rr311> ati.amd.com
[10:49] <ikonia> f3rr311: ok - so you've used drivers that are not setup/tested/compatible with ubuntu 8.04
[10:49] <ikonia> f3rr311: you may find specialist support in #ati
[10:50] <f3rr311> well kubuntus suck badly
[10:50] <nikolam> f3rr311, Try to use 8.5 fglrx, I used 8.6 and it is ashamed unstable for some apps
[10:51] <f3rr311> can't get any FPS out of them
[10:51] <f3rr311> have ati raedon 9800XT
[10:51] <_erdem__> #ubuntu-tr
[10:51] <ikonia> f3rr311: I don't think thats the case, what was the issue with the packaged drivers ? what is your card
[10:52] <ikonia> f3rr311: just so your aware, the drivers shipped with ubuntu are the same ones from ati.amd.com - they are just tried and tested compatible versions, so the drivers you think "suck" so much, are actually ATI's drivers, so complain to them - not calling "kubuntu's drivers suck"
[10:52] <f3rr311> ati raedon 9800XT
[10:52] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/25405/
[10:52] <ompaul> !sfd
[10:52] <f3rr311> well i have asked for help on the issue and keep getting ignored
[10:53] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> how do i correct screen resolution? the how to doesnt wurk
[10:53] <rogue_trader> can I download a recent build of intrepid ibex somewhere?
[10:54] <nikolam> f3rr311, hmm try #ati In meantime, try to look at the links provided under download page on ati site.
[10:54] <joaopinto> !intrepid | rogue_trader
[10:54] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: try displayconfig-gtk
[10:54] <f3rr311> haver
[10:54] <Varak_> can i get the kernel to load modules without rebuilding the kernel?
[10:54] <joaopinto> f3rr311, that card should be supported by the driver provided on the repositories
[10:54] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> ok, just a sec
[10:54] <marlies> hello guys ;) , which packet I should add to ubuntu if I want to have full functionality in my mouse ?
[10:54] <f3rr311> all channels are grave yard
[10:55] <Frogzoo> !mouse | marlies
[10:55] <marlies> you  are a genious
[10:55] <nikolam> f3rr311, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page ,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Verifying
[10:56] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> its stuck at 60, it needz ta be 75 htz
[10:56] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: displayconfig-gtk may fix it
[10:56] <f3rr311> i have followed them im using Kubuntu
[10:56] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, sorry, but I have to go to sleep very soon, so if you have no suggestions to offer, can you tell me so because I will have to leave. So any ideas at all?
[10:56] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> nope, lsd ninja
[10:56] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> it didnt bro
[10:56] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> stuck at 60
[10:56] <nikolam> I Need a solution on how to make my mouse turn off itself on inactivity, like on windBlows. On Ubuntu it lights the same all day long
[10:57] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: how are you running it?
[10:57] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> LSD|Ninja: what do you mean?
[10:57] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: displayconfig-gtk, how did you run it?
[10:57] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: I'm just reading
[10:57] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> LSD|Ninja: oh, in the terminal
[10:57] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> srry
[10:58] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, ok. fanx ;)
[10:58] <erichammond> akuma5: Sorry, The computer I was using is in serious trouble and I probably won't be able to continue the thread.
[10:58] <Guest58086> 大家好，问一个GTK编程的问题
[10:58] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: do you still have /dev/raw1394 ?
[10:58] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: Oh, OK. See, there's two resolution control panels in GNOME. The one on the Preferences section (which sucks more than a sailor) and displayconfig-gtk which, in 7.10 at least, worked quite well
[10:58] <ikonia> !cn | Guest58086
[10:59] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> LSD|Ninja: well, i have a flicker issue i cant seem to get fixed
[10:59] <Guest58086> thank you ubottu
[10:59] <kushalsejwal> Hi friends
[10:59] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: yeah, this sort of thing has always sucked in Linux. Ubuntu had it somewhat right in 7.10 but took a long, runny dump iver it in 8.04
[11:00] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> LSD|Ninja: any known solutions?
[11:00] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> LSD|Ninja: i have a ATI HD 2400 XT
[11:00] <LSD|Ninja> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: you'll probably end up having to manually screw around with xorg.conf :/
[11:01] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> fook
[11:01] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> ohs wells
[11:01] <ikonia> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: thats uncalled for
[11:01] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> ?
[11:01] <l815> :O
[11:01] <ikonia> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: you know exactly what you typed, and what you meant by it
[11:01] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> (.Y.)
[11:02] <legyes> c.hu
[11:02] <ikonia> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: pardon ?
[11:02] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> (.Y.)
[11:02] <ikonia> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: what does (.Y.) mean ?
[11:03] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> what is wrong with fook, i mean, seriously, as much as is wrong with the world, why be so anal?
[11:03] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> but, i digress
[11:03] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> meh
[11:03] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, yes, /dev/raw1394 is present
[11:03] <ikonia> Obi_Bong_Kedoobi: because it's bad language - you don't need to say it, as you said - so much wrong with the world - why use bad language
[11:03] <bumblebee> when i shall choose the partion under the isntallation it says that i only have 8 mb free space, but when i check my harddisc now i have 45 gb free space, anyone knows what the problem can be?
[11:03] <kushalsejwal> anybody there??
[11:04] <LSD|Ninja> I find the bible bashing puritans more annoying than the bad language actually
[11:04] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: that a good start, so the device is still there. Now Ive not used the application your using do I don't know if this is possible, but can you point your application at that device ?
[11:04] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> like i said, friend, like i said
[11:04] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> lol
[11:04] <ikonia> LSD|Ninja: and that is also not allowed in here, so not needed
[11:04] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> its all good
[11:04] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> lol
[11:04]  * Obi_Bong_Kedoobi agrees
[11:04] <Almindor> is there a way to make gnome use "ionice -c 3" for disk operations (e.g: nautilus copying etc.)
[11:05]  * Obi_Bong_Kedoobi agrees with LSDNinja that is
[11:05] <Obi_Bong_Kedoobi> he he
[11:05] <ikonia> Almindor: I don't know/think you can do that as default
[11:05] <erichammond> Upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10.  It just installed libc6 and now everything freezes.  I can ping, connect to ssh port, but nothing else.  Ideas?
[11:05] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, I don't know what you mean. I can point the camera at the computer, but I think that is just being silly.
[11:05] <Almindor> that's a shame, copying stuff from say NTFS really kills usability
[11:05] <Guest58086> hi, I want to ask a question about how to user GtkTextBuffer in GTK.
[11:06]  * Obi_Bong_Kedoobi looks at the bo_g and remembers he has to go. "Peace be with you."
[11:06] <Guest58086> I want get the signed "changed" for GtkTextBuffer
[11:06] <ikonia> Almindor: I could well be wrong, but I can't see any option for it, that obvious, you may be able to do something from within gconf
[11:06] <bumblebee> when i shall choose the partion under the isntallation it says that i only have 8 mb free space, but when i check my harddisc now i have 45 gb free space, anyone knows what the problem can be?
[11:06] <joaopinto> Guest22370, you better search for a development channel
[11:06] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: I mean tell the application to use that device file
[11:06] <Guest58086> thank you
[11:07] <Almindor> ikonia, well.. if "nautilus" process was the author of the copying window process (and that one actually does the copying) then starting nautilus with ionice would be enough
[11:07] <cyb3r3li0g> #freebsd
[11:07] <joaopinto> bumblebee, free space inside of a defined partition is not the same as a space unallocated
[11:07] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, No. that was my original problem I asked about. Nothing shows up under the ieee1394 tab in Kino, so I can't "point to" any device.
[11:07] <joaopinto> bumblebee, you need to shrink your existing partition so that space becomes unallocated, free for a new partition
[11:08] <bumblebee> joaopinto ok, how do i do that?
[11:08] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: I don't have kino (it's a kde app is it not ?) so I can't explain to you any better, but basiclly is there a "device" menu in kino that you can say --> /dev/raw1934
[11:08] <joaopinto> bumblebee, use manual partition during the installer.. selected your windows partition and resize it to a smaller size
[11:09] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: the constant Jul  6 18:26:39 dalek-laptop kernel: [ 1267.460238] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023
[11:09] <ikonia> Jul  6 18:26:39 dalek-laptop kernel: [ 1267.460258] ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]  GUID[08004601031b8582]
[11:09] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, I have no idea. I am using gnome, and Kino and this same camera works faultlessly on my desktop PC with a PCI firewire card running hardy.
[11:09] <ikonia> thats quite a worry
[11:09] <Almindor> hmm damnit ionice is root only
[11:09] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: ahh ok, so it's not a kde app, one moment then
[11:09] <Almindor> can't even start transmission with it automatically :(
[11:09] <avi_me> Hi . I have a program that is supported specifically for redhat , i managed to install it on ubuntu and it runs fine. only problem is with the gui , the menus are showing squares instead of text. when i run the same program on redhat , the menus are showing fine... can anyone direct me to a solution ?
[11:09] <ikonia> Almindor: ionice is a process control, its sensible that root owns that
[11:10] <joaopinto> Almindor, you can use ionice on a running process with -p
[11:10] <Almindor> ikonia, not for starting new process, doesn't make sense
[11:10] <joaopinto> avi_me, what program is that ?
[11:10] <ikonia> Almindor: yes for starting new proceses, %100 perfect sense
[11:10] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, what does the "Node changed" thingies mean? Is that when I was turning the cam on and off and unplugging it/plugging it in?
[11:10] <avi_me> synopsys vcs-mx
[11:10] <ikonia> Almindor: why should you a normal user be allowed to ionice your stuff over someone elses
[11:10] <joaopinto> ok, no idea :P
[11:10] <bumblebee> joaopinto ive tried that, and i select the harddrive, choose fat32 or nts, then /windows and when i select ok it comes that somethings wrong, dont remember excactly what it says
[11:10] <Almindor> ikonia, 0% sense, if I have the right to execute the process then I have the right to make it use less disk
[11:10] <j1647> hi
[11:11] <j1647> guys
[11:11] <j1647> how are u
[11:11] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: in kino, in preferences under ieee can you select /dev/raw
[11:11] <joaopinto> !enter | j1647
[11:11] <ikonia> Almindor: no, thats not how unix systems are designed
[11:11] <j1647> ok
[11:11] <joaopinto> Almindor, you have rights over the process.. not over the entire disk I/O
[11:11] <joaopinto> because that is a shared resource
[11:11] <Almindor> ikonia, so a typical user won't be able to tweak his own processes because "that's not how linux is designed"? I can understand going to -c 1, but -c 3?
[11:12] <stapel> Can I have Visual Effect enabled for two users on the same host that are both logged in?
[11:12] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, No. The entire preferences window is blank except for a drop down selection button which is empty of all devices
[11:12] <ikonia> Almindor: thats correct, a use can't tweak SYSTEM settings
[11:12] <Almindor> ikonia, going to -c 3 should be allowed for users, period
[11:12] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: I'd make a guess then (just a guess) that your firewire bus has hung
[11:12] <j1647> |
[11:12] <joaopinto> Al_Fuego, a user wont be able to tweak system resources.. because he doesn't own the system, which is pretty logical
[11:12] <joaopinto> ops, was Almindor
[11:12] <ikonia> Almindor: thats your opinion, the majority of the world would disagree
[11:13] <Almindor> no actually the majority of desktop users would agree, especially if they want gnome to not freeze every boot
[11:13] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: I'm guessing (again just a guess) something to do with the quick sucession of active/suspend changes
[11:13] <ikonia> Almindor: nope - it's the way it is, because it works for the majority, however this isn't really an ubuntu issue to discss in here
[11:13] <f3rr311> what type of fps shoukd i be getting fro fgl_glxgears
[11:14] <ikonia> f3rr311: depends on your system, the drivers, how compatible the drives are with your card/the system
[11:14] <joaopinto> Almindor, you need to learn something about Unix or operative systems in general.. the ionice utility is not related in any way to gnome
[11:14] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, should I try hitting it? Sometimes that will fix firewire card problems.... doesn't it?
[11:14] <stapel> Can I have Visual Effect enabled for two users on the same host that are both logged in?
[11:14] <Almindor> joaopinto, I never said it was
[11:14] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: may want to take a reboot - start again and see if the problem is identical
[11:14] <f3rr311> 5343 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1068.600 FPS
[11:14] <joaopinto> Almindor, there may be an issue on the application side.. gnome/whatever that you are trying to resolve with an OS level tweaking
[11:14] <f3rr311> 7286 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1457.200 FPS
[11:14] <Almindor> joaopinto, my point is that I should be able to automate starting a process with lower io priority as a user (higher is another thing)
[11:14] <ikonia> f3rr311: we don't need to see that
[11:14] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, I have done the reboot thing several times already.... no luck.
[11:14] <joaopinto> Almindor, so your conclusion that ionice should be changed to help gnome users.. is pointless
[11:14] <f3rr311> thats with the fglx from adept
[11:14] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: and it behaves the same way
[11:15] <ikonia> CorpseFeeder: as in starts working but then drops out
[11:15] <Almindor> joaopinto, you assume too much
[11:15] <ikonia> Almindor: joaopinto I suggest this is not the best place to discuss this, perhaps take it to ubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:15] <j1647> friends ! there is a turkish language's chat server ?
[11:16] <ikonia> !tr | j1647
[11:16] <saschahl> joaopinto: his point is that ionice -c3 should be allowed as user just the same way "nice -n 19" is
[11:16] <j1647> ok thanks
[11:16] <j1647> D
[11:16] <j1647> :D
[11:16] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, No. It refuses to work at all. It only partially worked for a few moments when first I started to fiddle with it about an hour ago, then it stopped and won't come back at all.
[11:16] <stapel> Can I have Visual Effect enabled for two users on the same host that are both logged in?
[11:16] <f3rr311> well im tring to get a issue fixed and i was told that this is the  place to go
[11:16] <ikonia> stapel: sure
[11:16] <Almindor> saschahl, thank you, someone finally got it
[11:16] <ikonia> f3rr311: who told you what, and what is the issue
[11:17] <CorpseFeeder> ikonia, I am out of time. I have to go. Bye
[11:17] <stapel> ikonia: have you tried it?
[11:17] <Almindor> saschahl, my point about gnome was just an example of pretty logical usage (ionice transmission so it's torrent checking doesn't kill everything else)
[11:17] <f3rr311> ATI drivers from kubuntu
[11:17] <ikonia> Almindor: you can make ionice setuid if you want
[11:17] <f3rr311> adept
[11:17] <Almindor> yes, I'll have tro
[11:17] <ikonia> stapel: not directly no
[11:17] <bumblebee> joaopinto maybe i should mention that i share the harddisc with windows xp
[11:17] <ikonia> f3rr311: but what's the issue
[11:17] <Almindor> it's a 1 user desktop so.. :)
[11:17] <f3rr311> Low fps
[11:17] <stapel> ikonia: it does not work for me
[11:17] <r0wr> asdf
[11:17] <ikonia> Almindor: the drivers are ati drivers, check the compatability with the drivers
[11:18] <ikonia> stapel: how is the second user using the desktop ?
[11:18] <Almindor> ikonia, wrong nick
[11:18] <ikonia> Almindor: sorry
[11:18] <Almindor> :)
[11:18] <stapel> ikonia: what do you mean? I do fast user switching between the two.
[11:18] <ikonia> f3rr311: the drivers are ati drivers, check the compatability of the drivers with your card on the ati website
[11:18] <ikonia> stapel: oooh I see
[11:18] <l815> is there a way to install the most current transmission?
[11:18] <f3rr311> they are comapatible
[11:19] <ikonia> stapel: I don't know how fast switching would effect that
[11:19] <ikonia> f3rr311: I didn't mean compatible, but check for known issues
[11:19] <ikonia> f3rr311: they are closed source drivers from ati.amd.com - so ubuntu can't change them or "fix" them
[11:19] <f3rr311> well the driver in the synaptic are  like 4 months old
[11:19] <ikonia> f3rr311: yes thats right
[11:19] <stapel> ikonia: Is that a bug perhaps? Where can I report it?
[11:19] <ikonia> stapel: launchpad.net
[11:19] <dusty> Hey guys I have an ubuntu server. If I leave an ssh connection from my home ubuntu desktop to my server I come back to it in the morning to find: Read from remote host stoned-hacker.co.uk: Connection reset by peer Connection to stoned-hacker.co.uk closed. how can I stop this from happening ?
[11:20] <joaopinto> f3rr311, if you need a newer driver you can use envygn, anyway for your card model the one available on the repositories should be fine
[11:20] <ikonia> dusty: most common - change the time out on your firewalls / isp's firewalls
[11:20] <j3tt> l815, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:21] <l815> j3tt, hardy
[11:21] <dusty> ikonia, I don't run a firewall on my home box, and the server just has basic iptables firewall (which i've tested by keeping off ) and it still happens.
[11:21] <f3rr311> i understand that but  i cant top 100 fps on fgl_glxgears
[11:21] <f3rr311> should be around 2000-4000
[11:21] <l815> j3tt, the version installed is 1.06 and on the website it's at 1.22
[11:21] <ikonia> dusty: where is the server, on the same network or across the internet
[11:21] <f3rr311> 1000 *
[11:21] <joaopinto> f3rr311, have you installed the fglrx driver ?
[11:21] <f3rr311> Yes
[11:22] <j3tt> l815, doesn't the website have an updated .deb package?
[11:22] <joaopinto> f3rr311, have you checked that it is enabled form the glxinfo output ?
[11:22] <dusty> across the internet
[11:22] <dusty> at a datacentr
[11:22] <dusty> +E
[11:22] <f3rr311> yes
[11:22] <ikonia> dusty: ok - so the ISP's going to have peremeter firewalls in front of them
[11:22] <l815> j3tt, nope :/, i'll probably just compile from source
[11:22] <dusty> yeah and so will the DC.
[11:22] <dusty> ok i see what your saying, its out of my control.
[11:22] <joaopinto> l815, you can get the latest version from getdeb
[11:22] <ikonia> l815: what feature do you want from the later version
[11:22] <dusty> sucks
[11:23] <ikonia> dusty: contact your ISP/DC they may change it for specific hosts
[11:23] <l815> joaopino, ahh i forgot about that site, thanks!
[11:23] <ikonia> dusty: I've had it changed many times, thats the point of firewalls
[11:23] <l815> ikonia, it has built in ipfilters now
[11:23] <f3rr311> its enabled and running
[11:23] <dusty> ikonia, i doubt my broadband ISP will the DC may.
[11:23] <dusty> so there will be no point if my BB ISP does not.
[11:23] <joaopinto> dusty, if you need to have a terminal session safe from the network drop you can use the utility "screen", that will allow you to resume the ssh session
[11:23] <ikonia> dusty: well, your ISP may have nothing to do with it, it may just be your DC peremter firewalls, so try it
[11:24] <ikonia> dusty: joaopinto's suggest is also excellent
[11:24] <joaopinto> dusty, also it maybe network issues not related to configuration, but just some peak outage
[11:24] <joaopinto> some ISPs are not that reliable for continuous connections
[11:25] <f3rr311> also i have to keep running this sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M for my rt2500 wireless card
[11:25] <LSD|Ninja> rt2500 :/
[11:25] <dusty>   Yeah I am well aware of screen, I just don't like having to reconnect
[11:25] <f3rr311> i know :)
[11:26] <f3rr311> that hardest card to get to work lol
[11:26] <joaopinto> f3rr311, have you tried to install the driver from ATI's site ? If yes you may have caused some conflict with the repos driver.. your card should be supported without major issues by the current ubuntu repos drivers
[11:26] <f3rr311> i know
[11:26] <f3rr311> its installed and running
[11:26] <lance> Hi all
[11:27] <joaopinto> f3rr311, glxinfo | grep -i Direct
[11:27] <f3rr311> i was told by someone in here that i should get a lot highier fps that 100
[11:27] <lance> how do i format my flashdrive
[11:27] <f3rr311> it directly rendered
[11:27] <f3rr311> lane, gparted
[11:28] <ubuntu__> kkk
[11:28] <f3rr311> lance*
[11:28] <joaopinto> f3rr311, are you running a fullscreen glxgears ?
[11:28] <f3rr311> no
[11:28] <joaopinto> ok, so yes, you should geat more than 1K fps
[11:28] <lance> how do i format my pen drive
[11:28] <f3rr311> what about
[11:29] <f3rr311> fgl_glxgears
[11:29] <audio_> how to configure performance mode? (I want ubuntu to run on max performance no powersaving stuff)
[11:31] <Shoopuf> OK... I dual-boot Windows XP and Ubuntu. I've got XP on an NTSF partition and Ubuntu on an EXT3 partition. Anyway, I want to have a folder for my schoolwork that I can share between the two operating systems, so I can work on my homework in either OS... Any suggestions?
[11:31] <ikonia> Shoopuf: make a partition of fat32
[11:31] <LSD|Ninja> Shoopuf: set up a second machine as a file server :P
[11:31] <ubunubi> Shoopuf: the best would be to create a 3rd partition that's NTFS and have shared data there
[11:32] <ikonia> Shoopuf: both xp and ubuntu can use fat32 safley
[11:32] <lance> i want to format removable disk
[11:32] <f3rr311> second issue
[11:32] <ikonia> lance: ok - so what's the issue
[11:32] <f3rr311> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M i have to run this to make the card achive 54 mbps
[11:32] <lance> i am unable to format that
[11:32] <ikonia> lance: whats the problem when you try ?
[11:32] <planetxmail> lance: format to what filesys?
[11:33] <lance> how do i find that
[11:33] <ikonia> lance: open "gparted" from the applications menu
[11:33] <Shoopuf> Thanks guys, BRB gonna make a FAT32 partition. :)
[11:33] <ikonia> lance: you can then select your disk and make a partition and add a file system
[11:33] <planetxmail> ya gparted is easiest appproach
[11:34] <lance> where is that gparted
[11:34] <audio_> anyone? how to configure performance/dynamic settings on ubuntu?
[11:34] <planetxmail> u may need to install it
[11:34] <l815> lance, open terminal and "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[11:34] <ikonia> lance: open synaptic from system -> administraton menu and search for gparted then install it
[11:34] <planetxmail> goto add/remove from applications menu
[11:34] <lance> ok i will
[11:34] <planetxmail> 3 diff ways :) welcome to linux
[11:34] <l815> :D
[11:34] <Shoopuf> Can I make that FAT32 partition within Ubuntu or should I run my random-Linux-distro-system-restore-CD Gparted?
[11:34] <l815> but you can't deny terminal is fastest :P
[11:35] <ikonia> Shoopuf: sure you can
[11:35] <l815> especially if you have gnome-do
[11:35] <ikonia> Shoopuf: ubuntu can make a fat32 partition, no issue
[11:35] <Muiske> Good afternoon all! Does anyone have recommendations for video-editing software? I have copied LOTR from DVD to the harddisk and now I want to make it so that the movies can be added to one single movie file. In cas anyone asks - it's because my dvd-player is broken!
[11:35] <l815> is preload effective now-a-days?
[11:35] <planetxmail> terminal of course this is Ubuntu :)
[11:35] <l815> man, I can't believe I almost left her for suse LOL
[11:36] <ikonia> Muiske: mencoder
[11:36] <l815> ubuntu feels like homw ;D
[11:36] <l815> *home
[11:36] <LSD|Ninja> Ubuntu do get a lot more right than other desktop type distros
[11:36] <anna> Hello, I just did a grub-install on a partition with a file system on it, any chance to repair that?
[11:36] <Muiske> ikonia: thanks, I'll try it!
[11:36] <l815> ubuntu does what firefox is known for
[11:36] <ikonia> anna: grub doesn't touch your file system
[11:36] <caiqixian> 这个是什么东东阿
[11:36] <l815> basics out of the box, the rest is free for all
[11:37] <LSD|Ninja> l815: leak memory like a sieve?
[11:37] <caiqixian> 聊天室吗
[11:37] <ikonia> !jp | caiqixian
[11:37] <anna> ikonia: Well, ok... but I can't mount it anymore.
[11:37] <l815> LSD|Ninja, lol, not that much alike
[11:37] <screenname57648> hi
[11:37] <ikonia> anna: what happens when you try to mount it ?
[11:37] <audio_> nobody knows how to set cpu performance in ubuntu? or is it not possible at all?
[11:37] <l815> if only Opera looked better under gtk :/
[11:37] <ikonia> audio_: what do you mean by setup cpu perfomance
[11:37] <ikonia> audio_: your cpu will perform as good as it can
[11:37] <anna> anna: Well, it says it's not a valid NTFS
[11:37] <l815> audio_, "sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils" in terminal
[11:37] <screenname57648> how do you tinker with which drives it mounts when you startup?
[11:38] <f3rr311> does anyone have a idea hot to make this run on kde startup
[11:38] <screenname57648> other than by altering /etc/fstab?
[11:38] <anna> or that i must specify filesystem type
[11:38] <ikonia> anna: specify a file system type then, what file system is on it ?
[11:38] <audio_> ikonia: well. to have it set on max cpu frequency or to have it scale dynamicly
[11:38] <anna> And the UUID seems gone.
[11:38] <sybux> Hi all.
[11:38] <f3rr311> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[11:38] <anna> That was a Vista ikonia
[11:38] <caiqixian> What are you talking about ?
[11:38] <sybux> I'm looking a simple method to add statistic on my apache 2 website.
[11:39] <f3rr311> awstats
[11:39] <planetxmail> awstats
[11:39] <anna> ikonia: You think it only killed a boot sector or something like that, right?
[11:39] <screenname57648> why doesn't vi work on hardy?
[11:39] <f3rr311> LOL
[11:39] <sybux> thx
[11:39] <audio_> l815: and then?
[11:39] <ikonia> anna: yes, it should only write to the mbr - nothing more
[11:39] <screenname57648> loll
[11:39] <anna> ikonia: A partition has a MBR  too?
[11:39] <ikonia> screenname57648: it works fine
[11:39] <ikonia> anna: sort of
[11:39] <ikonia> anna: what disk was it ?
[11:39] <anna> ikonia: Cause I did install to the partition
[11:39] <ikonia> anna: as in what device
[11:39] <planetxmail> MBR is on the first disk first partiton that is only 512 bytes
[11:40] <screenname57648> ikonia: no it doesn'
[11:40] <anna> ikonia: /dev/sda1
[11:40] <Shoopuf> I installed Gparted but it didn't show up in my Applications menu? :(
[11:40] <screenname57648> what package is it in?
[11:40] <ikonia> anna: what does "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" show
[11:40] <l815> audio_, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_use_cpufrequtils
[11:40] <ikonia> screenname57648: it's called vim
[11:40] <ikonia> screenname57648: vi is a symlink to vim
[11:40] <Kaja> Shoopuf, it's in the admin menu.
[11:40] <trumbun> hi, I wish to install Ubuntu using the System Wubi. My current system is setup with Windows Xp and Fedora 9.
[11:40] <lance> i installed gparted
[11:40] <anna> ikonia: That one looks unchanged, still NTFS partition
[11:40] <screenname57648> what happens when you go to insert mode and use the cursors?
[11:40] <trumbun> Is it possibil to use Wubi since I don't wish to partion againg the hard drive
[11:40] <lance> what is the next step
[11:40] <l815> lol wow i didnt know you get a preview of songs when hovering over them
[11:40] <Shoopuf> Kaja: Thanks, it was called "Partition Editor" in the Administration menu. :)
[11:41] <caiqixian> I try it a few days ago.
[11:41] <l815> that's awesome :D
[11:41] <bazhang> trumbun, yes
[11:41] <ikonia> anna: so thats a reasonable sign, so just sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:41] <audio_> l815: thx. 2 bad it is not graphical like in kde
[11:41] <trumbun> since i use grub as the boot loader
[11:41] <l815> audio_, np, kde does have a lot of those types of advantages
[11:41] <bazhang> screenname57648, /join #vim
[11:42] <screenname57648> thx bazhang but it's ubuntu - specific
[11:42] <caiqixian> Use wubi to install system
[11:42] <ikonia> screenname57648: whats the problem with vim ?
[11:42] <screenname57648> ikonia: as I said, press i then use cursors
[11:42] <Johnny_5> i only get sound from 1 of my 2 speakers instead of stereo sound....is there a way 2 modify esd so i have stereo sound again??
[11:42] <caiqixian> the programs are run slowlly
[11:42] <trumbun> ok thanks very much. I will try it out
[11:42] <Johnny_5> oh yeah this is onboard sound btw
[11:43] <screenname57648> how do you alter which filesystems mount on startup with a gui?
[11:43] <ikonia> screenname57648: thats insert mode
[11:43] <screenname57648> yes
[11:43] <ikonia> screenname57648: you can't navigate while in insert mode
[11:43] <screenname57648> you can in fedora
[11:43] <screenname57648>  i think
[11:43] <ikonia> screenname57648: I think your wrong
[11:43] <screenname57648> I may be wrong
[11:43] <lance> i installed the gparted but i am unable to see that on system tools
[11:43] <l815> screenname57648, you can use screenlets
[11:43] <screenname57648> ok well I'll check that
[11:43] <Johnny_5> i only get sound from 1 of my 2 speakers instead of stereo sound....is there a way 2 modify esd so i have stereo sound again??
[11:44] <screenname57648> what's screenlets
[11:44] <ikonia> screenname57648: I'm on fedora now, and you can navigate up / down the curosr in insert mode, thats it
[11:44] <bazhang> !info screenlets
[11:44] <bazhang> screenname57648, ^^
[11:44] <ikonia> screenname57648: copy your vimrc file to your ubuntu machine if you want it to behave like fedora - but thats not broke, or a bug
[11:44] <Johnny_5> !info esd
[11:45] <Johnny_5> !info esd gutsy
[11:45] <screenname57648> what does it need to say in the vimrc file?
[11:45] <trumbun> Thanks
[11:45] <trumbun> bye
[11:45] <ikonia> screenname57648: copy your fedora one across
[11:45] <lance> i installed the gparted but i am unable to see that on system tools
[11:45] <screenname57648> matter of opinion as to whether its' broke
[11:45] <screenname57648> I think it is
[11:45] <l815> lance, it should be called "Partition Editor"
[11:46] <ikonia> lance: it's in application
[11:46] <l815> wow major dejavu ;o
[11:46] <ikonia> screenname57648: no - it's not, it's behaving to spec
[11:46] <lance> no i don't find that under applications
[11:46] <l815> lance, did you check under "Administrator"
[11:46] <screenname57648> ikonia: lol that's not an excuse.
[11:46] <lance> let me check
[11:46] <ikonia> screenname57648: it's not an excuse as there is nothing wrong
[11:46] <l815> i don't use the default gnome menu so I kinda forget the names lol
[11:47] <lance> i got it
[11:47] <l815> :)
[11:47] <Johnny_5> i only get sound from 1 of my 2 speakers instead of stereo sound with onboard sound....is there a way 4 me 2 have stereo sound again??
[11:47] <ikonia> screenname57648: vi as you call it is not meant to be nagivated with the arrow keys
[11:47] <screenname57648> bazhang: could you explain what screenlets is? I read your description but it's a cryptic gobblegobble
[11:47] <screenname57648> vi is meant to be a usable text-editor
[11:47] <screenname57648> vi is meant to provide users with helpful functionality
[11:47] <l815> screenname57648, a screenlet is like a widget kinda
[11:48] <bazhang> http://www.screenlets.org/index.php/FAQ screenname57648
[11:48] <screenname57648> vi is meant to give you the opportunity to alter text files
[11:48] <ikonia> screenname57648: no - it is usable, your just not using it to spec
[11:48] <l815> screenname57648, for ex., i have a screenlet to show my mount/unmounted partitions. I can choose to mount or unmount any of them via the screenlet
[11:48] <bazhang> screenname57648, this is getting offtopic
[11:49] <l815> oh man, almost time for some coffee :)
[11:49] <Johnny_5> i only get sound from 1 of my 2 speakers instead of stereo sound with onboard sound....is there a way 4 me 2 have stereo sound again??
[11:49] <sidelil> Hello everybody. I've deleted by mistake my .bashrc file. Do you know how can I have it back with the default configuration? Thanks!
[11:49] <screenname57648> bazhang: ok
[11:50] <l815> Johnny_5,  double click the volume icon and see if both speaker volumes are up
[11:51] <screenname57648> ikonia: matter of opinion. I think I'm using it correctly, and the design is wrong.
[11:51] <bounty> hi everybody
[11:51] <l815> Johnny_5, wait, I misread , right click the volume icon, then click "Preferences", and see which driver is being used
[11:51] <ikt> hi dr bounty
[11:51] <bounty> i need help please
[11:51] <bounty> hi ikt
[11:51] <l815> what's the prob.?
[11:52] <lance> hi i got the gparted but i am unable to get the format option. i selected the file system
[11:52] <Johnny_5> h/o brb i should prob be n gnome....it would b easier than n enlightnment....brb
[11:52] <l815> lol
[11:52] <bounty> it's not really a problem, but i would like to have a bash script that run totem and immediatly close it
[11:52] <lance> i want to format my removable disk
[11:52] <lenswipe> i got a perl script here that dont work, can someone check out the pastebin for me pleaxse
[11:52] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/fc47d783
[11:53] <lenswipe> the idea is to provide similar functionality to the spotlight tool on a mac
[11:53] <lenswipe> but it wont run
[11:53] <lenswipe> anyone know why?
[11:53] <l815> bounty, i only know how to start it, not kill it
[11:53] <lenswipe> anyone at all?
[11:53] <bounty> i tried "totem then pkill totem" but i have to close totem manually to be allowed to use another command in the script
[11:53] <lenswipe> Perl Script doesnt work can someone check it over for me please on pastebin.copm
[11:54] <lenswipe> say if you are interested and ill put the URL here
[11:54] <l815> bounty, yah, that's the prob
[11:54] <lenswipe> ANYone?
[11:54] <gordonjcp> !anyone | lenswipe
[11:54] <bounty> l815 ; is there any solution to run and close an app in the same command line ?
[11:54] <lenswipe> gordonjcp: i already asked my question, read above...
[11:55] <l815> bounty, let me look
[11:55] <gordonjcp> lenswipe: it's lost in about a mile of scrollback
[11:55] <lenswipe> that is not my fault
[11:55] <bounty> l815 : thanks
[11:55] <lenswipe> i made a perl script and it wont work
[11:55] <lance> hi i got the gparted but i am unable to get the format option. i selected the file system
[11:55] <l815> bounty, i know there's a way to set the application to run in the background, but I forgot the switch
[11:55] <lenswipe> the idea if of the script is to provide similar functionality to the SPOTLIGHT tool on a mac
[11:56] <bounty> l815 ; i think it's the "screen" command
[11:56] <lenswipe> does anyone know if they can sort my script
[11:56] <lenswipe> gordonjp: there
[11:56] <lenswipe> gordonjcp*
[11:56] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/fc47d783
[11:56] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/fc47d783
[11:56] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/fc47d783
[11:56] <FloodBot1> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:56] <bounty> l815 : i need this ... to make my xwinwrap run correctly and pass through the bug of the video outbug of mplayer
[11:56] <lance> hi i got the gparted but i am unable to get the format option. i selected the file system..what i do ..
[11:56] <greenfishx3>  i renamed 3-4 terminal sessions on yakuake - "save as default", then i saved the session in kubuntu but after a reboot theres only 1 terminal session in yakuake called shell, all my terminals are missing
[11:57] <lenswipe> is there any point me being here if im to just be ignored????
[11:57] <l815> bounty, let me try that screen command
[11:57] <joaopinto> !patience | lenswipe
[11:57] <bounty> l815 ; okat
[11:57] <bounty> l815 ; okay
[11:57] <lenswipe> jaopinto: ive been here for ages asking my question and im being ignored
[11:57] <bazhang> lenswipe, five minutes
[11:57] <gordonjcp> lenswipe: what does spotlight do?
[11:58] <lenswipe> its like a search thing
[11:58] <lenswipe> its like the vista search
[11:58] <lenswipe> it searches as u type
[11:58] <lenswipe> i know there is already a thing for that on ubuntu
[11:58] <lenswipe> but i wanted to make my own
[11:58] <lenswipe> and the perl script wont work
[11:58] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/fc47d783
[11:58] <greenfishx3> dont you think if people knew the answer they would respond lenswipe?
[11:58] <FloodBot1> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <bazhang> !enter > lenswipe
[11:58] <lenswipe> so im wondering if someone would check the script out
[11:58] <l815> bounty, do you know how to get the process id?
[11:59] <l815> bounty, to run it in the background, it's "totem &"
[11:59] <gordonjcp> lenswipe: I don't know what vista search is either
[11:59] <lenswipe> !botabuse > bazhang
[11:59] <l815> bounty, but then to kill it you'd need the id
[11:59] <lenswipe> kk
[11:59] <lance> hi i got the gparted but i am unable to get the format option. i selected the file system...how do i format
[11:59] <bounty> l815, : yup with pgrep u can get the process id
[11:59] <gordonjcp> lenswipe: it sounds a bit like beagle
[11:59] <bazhang> lenswipe, dont use enter as punctuation
[11:59] <l815> bounty, wait
[11:59] <bounty> l815, : and to kill it directly after running ?
[11:59] <l815> bounty, when using totem &, it outputs the id
[11:59] <lenswipe> gordonjcp: its exactly like beagle but i wanted to make my own
[12:00] <l815> bounty, so, it's run "totem &", then somehow grab the variable, and then just kill the variable
[12:00] <l815> bounty, i think i got it!
[12:01] <bounty> l815, so ?
[12:01] <screenname57648> how do you control which filesystems ubuntu mounts on startup?
[12:01] <l815> bounty, try: "$var = totem &", then next line "kill $var", then save it as whatever.sh