[00:01] <LOGAN> dow much MB or GB would be needed for installation?
[00:01] <Dragnslcr> Wubi shouldn't be noticably slower than a normal install
[00:02] <Dragnslcr> It doesn't run in a VM, it's a normal dual-boot system
[00:02] <Dragnslcr> So the only speed difference would be in the file system
[00:03] <DaSkreech> Dragnslcr: Shhhh :)
[00:03] <DaSkreech> Pleasant surprises!
[00:03] <Dragnslcr> Doh
[00:06] <mrebola> join /ubuntu-es
[00:06] <mrebola> #ubuntu-es
[00:06] <mrebola> tengo milenios que no uso irc jajaja
[00:06] <szrhawaii> for some reason my package manager is not giving me some of the files it used to give
[00:06] <Officium> milenios!
[00:07] <szrhawaii> like emerald for one
[00:07] <Officium> mrebola: y si me pasos a suse?
[00:09] <szrhawaii> nevermind i found it
[00:11] <sourcemaker>  I would like to send a christmas card... a mail with a image inline? possible?
[00:15] <DaSkreech> mrebola: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:16] <simon_> bsr tt le monde
[00:18] <sourcemaker> how can I use the desktop search in kde 4.2?
[00:25] <BluesKaj> sourcemaker, just type the app name into the kicker searchbar
[00:25] <joshual> hi folks, I'm running 8.10, trying to burn an iso to a cdrom, k3b doesnt detect that there is a blank cdrom in the drive
[00:27] <szrhawaii> how do i add new plasma themes
[00:28] <szrhawaii> anyone know a place on directions or know how to
[00:28] <DaSkreech> joshual: wodim /path/to/ISO
[00:28] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: Righ click on desktop -> settings -> themes
[00:29] <szrhawaii> how do i add new ones to those themes
[00:29] <joshual> DaSkreech:  odd that seems to be working... thanks, but that still means k3b isn't useable
[00:30] <michael__> i am still having a hard time trying to compile pidgin 2.5.2
[00:30] <tue> hey, can anyone with an up to date system tell me the kernel version in 8.10?
[00:30] <michael__> gives error in compiling
[00:30] <DaSkreech> szrhawaii: click new themes
[00:30] <szrhawaii> oh duh
[00:30] <szrhawaii> thanks
[00:30] <tue> as in cat /proc/version
[00:31] <joshual> tue 2.6.27-9-generic
[00:32] <tue> *doh*. im running 2.6.24...
[00:32] <tue> i must have a borked grub configuration or something.
[00:34] <michael__> how come pidgin 2.5 will not compile?
[00:34] <DaSkreech> tue: What's the versions you have installed ?
[00:34] <michael__> or compiling anything under kubuntu
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:34] <DaSkreech> michael__: What's the error?
[00:35] <tue> i got 8.10 installed, but cat /proc/version reports 2.6.24. so i guess this means that when i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 the grub configuration files didnt get changed. this explains why im having problems getting fglrx working....
[00:36] <DaSkreech> tue: What versions of the kernel do you have installed?
[00:37] <michael__> its better when someone else does the dirty work!! of compiling something then i trying to do it
[00:37] <tue> DaSkreech: im trying to find out but i dont know what package provides the kernel (newbie...)
[00:37] <michael__> never works
[00:38] <tue> DaSkreech: but it must have to do with a bad grub configuration file because i just ran apt-get update, upgrade. you think dpkg-reconfigure grub do the trick?
[00:38] <DaSkreech> michael__: That's possibly true but have you tried checkinstall ?
[00:39] <michael__> no i don't know crap when it comes to compiling
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> tue: ive seen folks wh needed to add to intrepid kernel to grub
[00:39] <DaSkreech> tue: I have no idea. What does ls /boot/vmlinuz-2* say ?
[00:39] <michael__> thats why i look for it alredy preconfigured for debian
[00:39] <DaSkreech> michael__: Why are you trying to compile ?
[00:39] <michael__> install it and off i go.
[00:40] <tue> DaSkreech: 2.6.27 is there amongst them.
[00:40] <michael__> because not everything is up to the latest version
[00:40] <michael__> like pidgin
[00:40] <bazhang> !latest
[00:40] <DaSkreech> tue: grep 2.6.27 /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:41] <DaSkreech> michael__: Why do you want the latest version ?
[00:41] <michael__> kubuntu 8.04 has pidgin 2.4.1 and the latest is 2.5.2
[00:41] <michael__> bug fixes and stability
[00:41] <DaSkreech> michael__: Which bugs ?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> michael__: does 2.4.1 work for you?
[00:41] <michael__> but regards how or what its about, how come kubuntu won't let me compile something
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> michael__: install build-essential
[00:42] <DaSkreech> !compile
[00:42] <bazhang> using the latest will often introduce problems, not solve them michael__
[00:42] <DaSkreech> bazhang: that's not true :-P
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: it can be true
[00:43] <michael__> i agree, compiling isn't for me, let the people do the dirty work then install it
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: it can be true
[00:43] <michael__> because it installls without hassle and works
[00:43] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: using something newer will more often introduce problems?
[00:43] <bazhang> some users feel the higher number = better, without looking for any associated downsides
[00:44] <DaSkreech> michael__: look at getdeb.net
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: it may, it may not
[00:44] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: If newer versions were MORE OFTEN more problematic what's the point of getting a new version
[00:45] <michael__> i like debian packages alot better then slackware
[00:45] <michael__> and thats what kubuntu is about
[00:45] <DaSkreech> they can be but to say that it's often more problematic is overstating or over cautioning
[00:45] <michael__> they install without trouble.
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: its open source, comes with no garuntee
[00:45] <DaSkreech> michael__: look at getdeb.net
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: it may solve some some issues, it may create new ones
[00:45] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: agreed but lets not scare people needlessly
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: I agree, I'm just showing how its not all saccarin / blue sky
[00:46] <michael__> what is getdeb.net about
[00:46] <DaSkreech> That's like when people used to say that installing Linux would make Windows unbootable almost everytime you install it
[00:46] <DaSkreech> It can
[00:46] <bazhang> DaSkreech, recommending folks use 'latest', or downplaying the risks is not wise imo
[00:46] <DaSkreech>  but cmon seriously?
[00:46] <DaSkreech> michael__: It was essentailly built for you. Nothing there is supported or condoned
[00:46] <bazhang> ubuntu is not a rolling release.
[00:47] <DaSkreech> bazhang: I never said reccomend that but at least be fair in your advice
[00:47] <bazhang> DaSkreech, I was.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: im just highlighting the reality thats all, newer is not always better, like some folks upgrading to intrepid have found
[00:47] <DaSkreech> I can live with saying newer is not better and know what you are upgrading to before you try it
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: sounds agreeable
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: :D
[00:48] <michael__> thank you DaSkreech,
[00:48] <michael__> its helpful when they are already compiled for you
[00:49] <DaSkreech> michael__: Are you missing the point of our conversation ?
[00:49] <Octopussy-8> does anyone here use pcsx?
[00:50] <Octopussy-8> i can'
[00:50] <michael__> this is the problem i am having with the compiler
[00:50] <Octopussy-8> i can't seem to get it working
[00:50] <michael__> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[00:50] <michael__> See `config.log' for more details.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> michael__: the short version is, newer isnt better. If the current version works, why fix something that isnt broken if the new version may have issues
[00:50] <DaSkreech> michael__: What bugs have been fixed for 2.5.2 ?
[00:50] <michael__> what is the deal with this stupid compiler
[00:50] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: e-deafness is amazing
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> michael__: compiler is great
[00:51] <michael__> C compiler cannot create executables
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> michael__: as you are not installing from deb, you may ned to upgrade some libs, these are called dependancies
[00:51] <michael__> thats bunch of crap
[00:51] <DaSkreech> michael__: what are you trying to do?
[00:51] <michael__> compile a source from a program
[00:51] <DaSkreech> michael__: ok few things
[00:51] <michael__> then why don't debian just download the required whatever and just go
[00:52] <DaSkreech> michael__: This is not debian if you want to always have the latest stuff run debian unstable
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> michael__: you are compiling, the compiler only sees the make and configure files
[00:52] <DaSkreech> Or better debian testing but the point is you should really read before you jump into things
[00:52] <michael__> when i install other things it auto downloads the dependies and it gos
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> michael__: you are free to apt-get the dependancys or compile them if they are not on repos
[00:52] <DaSkreech> michael__: What bugs were fixed in 2.5.2 ?
[00:52] <bazhang> michael__, one question
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> michael__: compiling is a whole different thing
[00:53] <michael__> i am running 2.5.1 pidgin it is close enough to the 2.5.2
[00:53] <michael__> compiling is for the people out there not me
[00:53] <michael__> its bunch of crap and never works
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> michael__: you can compile easily
[00:54] <bazhang> michael__, what new fixes / features does the latest offer that you need to have it.
[00:54] <michael__> i don't need the latest of pidgin, found 2.5.1 which installed excellant
[00:54] <michael__> it is close enough.
[00:54] <DaSkreech> michael__: You are severely missing the point
[00:55] <bazhang> michael__, install build-essential ; compiling works fine.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog
[00:55] <michael__> like you said DaSkreech Kubuntu is free, do whatever i want as you are not responsible that may happen to my pc
[00:55] <bazhang> michael__, but there is a reason the newest is not included in ubuntu/kubuntu
[00:55] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: I know that does michael__ ?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: i doubt it
[00:56] <DaSkreech> michael__: I'm not trying to tell you you can't install it I'm just telling you that you should know what you are doing
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: i'd actually put money on it
[00:56] <bazhang> michael__, but what you are doing is not supported here
[00:56] <DaSkreech> at the very least read the changelog and see what has happened before you go installing
[00:56] <michael__> and i would actually like to post it on the web somewhere that i have sucessfully have installed some unsupported debian packaages and they work fine with kubuntu
[00:57] <DaSkreech> michael__: That's common knowledge it's easy to do
[00:57] <bazhang> michael__, that is not supported
[00:57] <DaSkreech> michael__: but still not something that you should recommend wholesale to all people for all packages
[00:57] <p_quarles> "unsupported" doesn't usually mean "doesn't work" -- it more often means "that would be wasting our time because there are better ways of doing that"
[00:57] <bazhang> michael__, and this is a support channel
[00:58] <DaSkreech> Havin an higher number on a release doesn't mean that it's time to run like a truck on oil to get it installed
[00:58] <michael__> well this is a issue with kubuntu just another os that should allow compiling
[00:58] <DaSkreech> michael__: It does we have said that many times
[00:58] <bazhang> michael__, but we had this same conversation just a few days ago
[00:58] <p_quarles> compiling isn't something you can "allow" -- Kubuntu contains all the tools to do this
[00:59] <p_quarles> that doesn't mean you *should* compile a trivial revision of Pidgin for no reason
[00:59] <DaSkreech> p_quarles: at least one minor number up so possibly not trivial but regardless...
[01:00] <michael__> so this so called ./install build-essential will allow it compile the source and make it installable
[01:00] <p_quarles> DaSkreech: sure, but there's nothing said so far about which feature is so important :)
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: no
[01:00] <DaSkreech> p_quarles: I don't think that michael__ knows of one
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: sudo apt-get install bulid-essential
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: then, cd in to the pidgin source folder
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> michael__: then run ./configure
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> michael__: it will tell you any deps you have not met
[01:01] <p_quarles> it's probably a good idea to run sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin as well
[01:01] <p_quarles> "good idea" being relative here
[01:01]  * DaSkreech chuckles
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> p_quarles: even if the version is older on the repo?
[01:02] <p_quarles> ActionParsnip: I'm not saying it will work -- but the newer version may use the same dependencies
[01:02] <michael__> does kubuntu and ubuntu support the repo files or not.
[01:02] <ricardo_> #kubuntu-es
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> p_quarles: maybe it needs newer stuff, but it cant hurt
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> michael__: if you can get them off the standard repos then yes
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> michael__: you may even have to compile the dependancys if you cant find a repo with teh version the new pidgin requires
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: at least he's up for a challenge, he'll learn about his system some
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: so its not all bad
[01:04] <michael__> forget the repos, i will stick with debian packages.
[01:04] <michael__> kubuntu is one os that nice, but still have some issues with
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> michael__: there are billions of distros of linux
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> michael__: ubuntu isnt for everyone
[01:05] <michael__> i know, thats why when trying them i installed kubuntu which is based on debian, is nice os
[01:06] <michael__> but i still have few issues with kubuntu but not serious from preventing me from using it.
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> michael__: i can suggest mandriva or suse for a beginner / mid level user
[01:06] <michael__> one thing actionparsnip, you do not know , is that kubuntu is based on DEBIAN distro.
[01:07] <bazhang> michael__, he knows
[01:07] <bazhang> michael__, using debian packages directly with ubuntu/kubuntu is not supported nor wise
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> michael__: yes its based on debian, but it isnt debian
[01:07] <michael__> then why i say it and someone says, its not based on debian
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> michael__: hence why mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs is not advised
[01:08] <bazhang> michael__, please chat in #kubuntu-offtopic as you are not seeking support
[01:09] <ricardo_> help with kwin
[01:10] <p_quarles> ricardo_: more specifically?
[01:12] <michael__> anyone be service i tried to install kde 4.0 along side with 3.5 i did not like, and unstinalled it
[01:12] <michael__> and i ahd to do a complete reinstall
[01:14] <jedix> complete reinstall of the os?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> he's a clown
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> ricardo_: wassup with kwin?
[01:16] <std07078> i have a question about kubuntu who can i ask?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> std07078: ask the room, someone will reply
[01:17] <std07078> well i did "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" on my gnome ubuntu
[01:17] <std07078> and the in the kde session
[01:18] <std07078> there is something wrong with the resolution
[01:18] <std07078> i'm not sure
[01:18] <p_quarles> std07078: which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> std07078: and what gfx card?
[01:19] <std07078> ubuntu 8.04 ati hd2400
[01:21] <p_quarles> std07078: if you're in KDE right now, open a terminal and run "xrandr" -- pastebin the results
[01:21] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:21] <p_quarles> that's easier than me trying to remember how to get resolution information in KDE 3.5 :)
[01:22] <std07078> i'm logged in the gnome desktop right now, on kde i cannot see
[01:23] <p_quarles> std07078: ah, when you said you weren't sure, I thought you meant it was a borderline thing -- not that the display was too messed up to see anything
[01:24] <std07078> as you describe it
[01:24] <std07078> too messed up to see anything
[01:25] <p_quarles> well, what's the output of xrandr anyway -- at least we would have a picture of what we're dealing with
[01:34] <std07078> if the problem is based on my gpu is there a way i can log in switch it to vesa?
[01:36] <guiterb> somebody here?
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> guiterb: 266 folks, including you and I
[01:37] <guiterb> o
[01:37] <guiterb> nice to meet you?
[01:37] <kudar> anyone know why wireless speeds are so slow with iwl4965 card?
[01:37] <std07078> :-(
[01:37] <guiterb> inter?
[01:38] <std07078> inter milan?
[01:38] <guiterb> change a better
[01:38] <guiterb> wireless card
[01:39] <kudar> why does adept only open in read only mode?
[01:39] <kudar> says i have to be logged in as root
[01:39] <guiterb> how far your pc from AP?
[01:39] <kudar> which i am
[01:39] <DaSkreech> p_quarles: are you here?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> kudar: you need to use kdesudo
[01:39] <DaSkreech> kudar:
[01:39] <p_quarles> DaSkreech: yes
[01:39] <DaSkreech> Umm try kdesudo adept
[01:40] <DaSkreech> p_quarles: were you finished with helping std07078 ?
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> kudar: if you know what you wanna install use: sudo apt-get install <app name>
[01:40] <kudar> so i cant open it from the applications-system tools-adept???
[01:40] <kudar> why is it even there?
[01:40] <p_quarles> DaSkreech: well, I didn't have anything further for him -- I never got the xrandr output, though :)
[01:40] <std07078> :-(
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> kudar: no idea, i always use apt-get from cli
[01:40] <guiterb> who could built a platform of android
[01:40] <DaSkreech> std07078: Can you give p_quarles that?
[01:41] <std07078> give him what?
[01:41] <DaSkreech> p_quarles: Shouldn't kde have it's own startup log wouldn't that provide some insight ?
[01:41] <DaSkreech> std07078: The output of xrandr
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> kudar: if you modify the menu, you could add kdesudo to the start of the command
[01:41] <p_quarles> std07078: type xrandr in a terminal window
[01:41] <anom01y> how can I use the usb floppy drive in my computer ? I have Kubuntu installed, and I get /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[01:41] <std07078> even if i am under gnome right now?
[01:41] <p_quarles> std07078: that will give us the general parameters of the X server as it's currently set up
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> kudar: also make sure you do not have any other package apps open
[01:42] <kudar> actionparsnip: any suggestions on things to do/update on first boot of clean copy?
[01:42] <p_quarles> Gnome and KDE use the same X server, so yeah
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> kudar: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:42] <kudar> actionparsnip: thanks bro
[01:43] <std07078> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89597/
[01:43] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Is the first upgrade recommended ?
[01:43] <JediatNight> Hi all
[01:43] <JediatNight> why is that my kubuntu disto hangs all of a sudden?
[01:43] <p_quarles> std07078: wow, I haven't seen that before . . .
[01:43] <JediatNight> my caps lock led blinks when the OS hangs
[01:44] <std07078> i hope that's for good
[01:44] <JediatNight> I have a hp core2duo laptop with 2gb ram and nvidia geforce 8400 gs graphic card .
[01:44] <guiterb> wow
[01:44] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: can you help?
[01:45] <std07078> if only i could update the drivers with envy or something but it's all messed up i cant see
[01:45] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: check dmesg log when you come back up
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: i'd recommend a full upgrade after a clean install
[01:45] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Why not just a dist-upgrade ?
[01:45] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: where is that log?
[01:45] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: do you want me to post that log here?
[01:45] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: /var/log
[01:46] <p_quarles> std07078: no, I mean, it's just saying it can't give you any information -- I really wouldn't know where to go from there
[01:46] <kudar> ActionParsnip: how do i install linux-backports-modules-intrepid from CLI?
[01:46] <DaSkreech>  /var/log/mesages I think
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> kudar: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[01:46] <p_quarles> std07078: like DaSkreech said, though, there may be an error log in Kubuntu's directory somewhere that would be worth checking
[01:47] <std07078> if that helps exactly the same happens on xfce desktop
[01:47] <std07078> how can i access that log?
[01:47] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: i opened that log
[01:47] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: which is the section you're interested in?
[01:47] <DaSkreech> std07078: ~/.xsession-errors
[01:47] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: The part that says error
[01:48] <DaSkreech> I have no idea what's causing it but that log should show at least a descent into panic
[01:48] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: i found it
[01:48] <JediatNight> shall i PM you?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> Sweet
[01:48] <kudar> actionparsnip: any reason why that package wouldn't be found?
[01:48] <DaSkreech> pastebin from there and a few lines up to the end of the file
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kudar: yuo gotta run: sudo apt-get update
[01:49] <DaSkreech> !tab | kudar This might help you
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> kudar: so the system knows which server to install from
[01:49] <JediatNight> Dec 19 21:57:02 home kernel: [96002.920359] lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
[01:49] <JediatNight> Dec 19 21:57:02 home kernel: [96002.920374] lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
[01:49] <JediatNight> Dec 19 21:57:02 home kernel: [96002.920384] lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
[01:49] <DaSkreech> JediatNight:
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Nooo
[01:49] <DaSkreech> pastebin it
[01:49] <DaSkreech> !paste
[01:49] <JediatNight> sorry
[01:50] <kudar> DaSkreech: thanks
[01:51] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: done
[01:51] <DaSkreech> Whats the URL ?
[01:51] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/89601/
[01:52] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: That's a lot. Whats on sdb1 ?
[01:52] <JediatNight> oops sdb1 is ipod
[01:52] <JediatNight> ill find the other error source
[01:52] <JediatNight> sorry
[01:53] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:53] <DaSkreech> Look for errors around the time you had the crash
[01:53] <DaSkreech> that helps
[01:53] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: its weird that I didn't find the other error source
[01:53] <JediatNight> the computer just hanged
[01:53] <JediatNight> with no control over keyboard
[01:54] <JediatNight> and the scree was locked
[01:54] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: There are loads of things that can cause that. Do you have another computer in the house?
[01:54] <JediatNight> caps lock was blinking
[01:54] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: I have only a laptop
[01:54] <DaSkreech> caps lock blinking isn't a good sign
[01:54] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: As in the laptop froze or you have another laptop ?
[01:54] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: I dont seem to trace the error. Could it be due to a display driver?
[01:54] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: or any hardware conflict such as interrupts?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Well the caps lock blinking sounds lower level but yeah a bad display driver migh be able to cause that
[01:55] <JediatNight> DaSkreech:  the laptop froze
[01:55] <guiterb> all
[01:55] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: i have a nvidia driver for 8400 gs
[01:55] <guiterb> who can built a platform of android?
[01:56] <guiterb> on the kubuntu
[01:56] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: swap it out with a nv driver for a few days and see if it still happens
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Does this happen often ?
[01:56] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: i had a generic driver earlier . It was stable
[01:56] <DaSkreech> guiterb: Anyone I would suppsoe
[01:56] <guiterb> i'm new
[01:56] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: but it diddnt have hardware acceleration
[01:56] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: Only started happening since the new video driver ?
[01:57] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: yes after i installed the nvidia driver
[01:58] <DaSkreech> JediatNight: That's your culprit find a newer one (or an older one if you have the latest) or look into an open source one
[01:58] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: yeah, i have version 173 or 177 . I'll try to find an old driver if that helps
[01:58] <JediatNight> or find a free driver as you suggested
[02:00] <DaSkreech> !cn
[02:01] <DaSkreech> guiterb: ^^^^
[02:03] <ben> um
[02:03] <ben> question about Konsole
[02:03] <ben> after running "sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9"
[02:03] <ben> i'm asked for my password, but I can't type anything
[02:04] <jedix> it doesn't show you typing, but it does enter text
[02:04] <jedix> just type it and hit enter
[02:05] <DaSkreech> ben: Your password is not shown for obvious reasons
[02:05] <DaSkreech> Trust your keyboard to do the right thing when you hit the keys
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> ben: the password isnt shown for extra security, just fly with it
[02:07] <ben> oh
[02:07] <ben> ok
[02:07] <ben> thanks
[02:08] <ben> whaaaat
[02:08] <acron17> hi there. if a problem with enabling SHMConfig...
[02:08] <ben> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:09] <acron17> i use the unstable (alpha i think) version of ubuntu jaunty, as it fits much better for my macbook as the stable version
[02:10] <ben> oh, i see
[02:10] <ben> the command uses aptitude,
[02:10] <ben> i use adept
[02:10] <ben> but
[02:10] <acron17> thing is, that i activated shmconfig as described in the ubuntu docs in a shmconfig.fdi file
[02:10] <ben> when i say adept instead it tells me there's no adept command
[02:10] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[02:11]  * [Relic] puts some police crime scene tape around then proceeds to murder flash
[02:12] <acron17> that worked in intrepid but it doesn't work in jaunty... any hints?
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> acron17: jaunty isnt supported here
[02:13] <p_quarles> acron17: ask in the Ubuntu development channel -- #ubuntu+1 or something
[02:14] <acron17> p_quarles: ok, thanks. i'll try it over there...
[02:17] <DaSkreech> ben: close adept
[02:17] <DaSkreech> !jaunty
[02:23] <jonathan> !version
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> oooh, mental note that one
[02:26] <xxuriahxx> need help with amarok 2 (linux)  - im looking for the button or command that actually syncs the ipod or media device - where is it or how do i sync
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> xxuriahxx: /j #amarok.neon
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> xxuriahxx: dont ask in both channels
[02:28] <xxuriahxx> sorry
[02:55] <btoogood> hi there all, hey i have registered with linuz counter and ubuntu counter just wondering how do I put the certificates in my signature in Kontact
[03:13] <DaSkreech> btoogood: You should have a signatures section of Kmail you can just put the codes there
[03:15] <btoogood> DaSkreech: ok as when i went and tested it out it just had the html code in there no picture
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Maybe you need to send HTML e-mails
[03:16] <SudoKing> dpkg/apt-get isn't working for me I tried to purge, reinstall, and remove a package but I always get "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[03:17] <amelie> hi
[03:17] <amelie> i need help again
[03:17] <amelie> i lost sound in ubuntu
[03:17] <amelie> tried alsaconfig; doesn't work
[03:18] <amelie> asoundconf ... it doesn't find my soundcard :(
[03:18] <amelie> any ideas?
[03:19] <[Relic]> is the card showing up in the system data?
[03:20] <amelie> no
[03:20] <amelie> i tried asoundconf list
[03:20] <amelie> it doesn't show
[03:20] <amelie> the alsmixer is lost
[03:22] <amelie> :(
[03:29] <DaSkreech> hi emma
[03:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do I need to do to connect to a wireless network?
[03:32] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee:  Do you have knetworkmanager installed?
[03:33] <emma> hi there :)
[03:34] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: Yes, but it does not even acknowledge it is trying to connect.
[03:34] <JediatNight> if you open it do the following things
[03:35] <JediatNight> knetworkmanager->New connection->Wlan0
[03:35] <JediatNight> you'll see a list of wlan's in a textbox
[03:35] <JediatNight> select the one you want, enter the encryption details (wep /wpa)
[03:35] <JediatNight> and you're all set
[03:37] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: When I click Connect and save, nothing happens. What does that mean?
[03:39] <JediatNight> I had the same problem too. it could that the signal is weak and you aren't connected
[03:39] <JediatNight> Did you try connecting at different locations?
[03:39] <JediatNight> or changing the parameters of your Wlan signal?
[03:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> This computer (sitting next to the one that wont connect) has full signal.
[03:40] <El_Boss> CoJabo-Eee let me ask you something, do you have the correct drive of your hardware?
[03:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> How to I tell?
[03:41] <JediatNight> are you sure your wlan card is detected? normally kubuntu supports most wlan cards
[03:41] <CoJaBo-Eee> It shows that there is a card, wlan0
[03:41] <El_Boss> no, srry, you are not right
[03:42] <El_Boss> try using iwconfig
[03:42] <El_Boss> on the console
[03:42] <El_Boss> tell me if there appear some info about conexion in wlan0
[03:43] <CoJaBo-Eee> wlan0 is listed
[03:43] <JediatNight> type ifconfig in konsole and do you see your wlan0 card?
[03:43] <El_Boss> roger, ok
[03:43] <Psycho_Sonic> i have a question about WPA for my wifi
[03:43] <Psycho_Sonic> in particular, about finding my hex key
[03:43] <Psycho_Sonic> when i put in the command for the hex key, my SSID has spaces
[03:43] <El_Boss> first of all, srry by my english, i am not an english native speaker, so be patient please
[03:44] <Psycho_Sonic> so it thinks the second word of the ssid is the password
[03:44] <Psycho_Sonic> what do i do?
[03:44] <El_Boss> what network manager are you using?
[03:44] <Psycho_Sonic> none
[03:44] <El_Boss> knetwork manager?
[03:44] <Psycho_Sonic> i turned it off
[03:44] <Psycho_Sonic> yeah, but i turned it off
[03:44] <El_Boss> oh, ok
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> i'm using this tutorial
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> they told me to turn it off
[03:45] <El_Boss> you need to uninstall it, and try installing wicd
[03:45] <El_Boss> it really worked for me
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> uninstall what?
[03:45] <El_Boss> knetwork manager has a lot of problems
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> oh
[03:45] <Psycho_Sonic> i see
[03:45] <El_Boss> knetwork manager
[03:46] <Psycho_Sonic> install wicd instead?
[03:46] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: Now what?
[03:46] <El_Boss> and, even if u deactivate it, you need to install another one
[03:46] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[03:46] <Psycho_Sonic> looking up wicd now...
[03:46] <El_Boss> with wicd i already solved all the problems in wifi
[03:46] <Psycho_Sonic> well
[03:47] <Psycho_Sonic> the problem is that my card isn't officially supported
[03:47] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee: what happens whenyou click connect and save? did it try to connect ? was there any activity?
[03:47] <Psycho_Sonic> the wiki says i'm screwed
[03:47] <El_Boss> hahaha
[03:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: Dialog closes, then nothing.
[03:47] <Psycho_Sonic> but there's a thread of stuff to do that'll fix it
[03:47] <Psycho_Sonic> um, what name do i look up for wicd?
[03:48] <Psycho_Sonic> it isn't showing up
[03:48] <El_Boss> if you put the following comand in console: "wpasupplicant", do you have any result?
[03:48] <El_Boss> you need an special repository
[03:48] <Psycho_Sonic> command not found
[03:48] <El_Boss> let me check it out
[03:48] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee:  Did you try to connect in some other location?
[03:49] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do you mean?
[03:49] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee:  It could be due to interference
[03:49] <El_Boss> roger
[03:49] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: I am very close to the router.
[03:49] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee: Go far away .. like 20 meters
[03:49] <JediatNight> and try connecting again
[03:50] <Psycho_Sonic> el boss, do I have to add a Third-Party link?
[03:50] <CoJaBo-Eee> Router is in another room, this computer sitting next to the one that won't connect has full signal.
[03:52] <Psycho_Sonic> actually
[03:52] <Psycho_Sonic> it'd be easier if someone answered my first question:
[03:52] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee:  is it a laptop or a tower?
[03:52] <CoJaBo-Eee> Laptop
[03:53] <Psycho_Sonic> wpa_passphrase tries to find my hex key
[03:53] <Psycho_Sonic> but my SSID has multiple words and it thinks the second word is the passphrase
[03:53] <Psycho_Sonic> what do i do?
[03:55] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee:  I faced the same issue as well
[03:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> Any way to fix it?
[03:56] <JediatNight> i didn't have an explanation . It could be due to wlan parameters
[03:56] <JediatNight> Do you know how to confure your router?
[03:56] <JediatNight> probably you can change a few parameters of your wlan
[03:58] <El_Boss> Psyco, what u are having is a problem in the way that your router is checking your identity
[03:58] <El_Boss> first of all, change the parameters in the router to check paraprase
[03:59] <El_Boss> let me check in my router to tell you
[03:59] <Psycho_Sonic> crap
[03:59] <Adola> Anyone konw about the problem with Kopete and AMaroK 2's now playing plugin?
[03:59] <Psycho_Sonic> thanks a lot for your help, but i have to go
[03:59] <Psycho_Sonic> sorry
[03:59] <Psycho_Sonic> thank you though
[03:59] <Psycho_Sonic> alrighty, see ya guys
[04:00] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight: I have another router I can try...
[04:00] <DaSkreech> Adola: Kopete needs to update the plugin for Amarok 2
[04:01] <Adola> DaSkreech.  I believe you've seen me ask this problem 3 days in a row :D
[04:01] <JediatNight> DaSkreech: what could be the problem ? please see the messages of CoJaBo-Eee . He is unable to connect to his router
[04:02] <arrrghhh> how do i edit the menus in kde4?
[04:02] <arrrghhh> my firefox link isn't workin.
[04:02] <DaSkreech> kmenuedit
[04:02] <DaSkreech> Adola: and have you asked #kopete yet ?
[04:02] <Adola> Yes...That room is dead.
[04:02] <Adola> Long dead.
[04:03] <CoJaBo-Eee> This computer can see the other router, but it does not show up at all on the other one.
[04:03] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, brilliant.  i'm assuming that's one of those things they haven't integrated into the kde4 gui yet?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: Right click the menu -> edit
[04:04] <arrrghhh> when i right click the menu it selects it like i'm left-clicking it...
[04:06] <arrrghhh> 4.2's out janurary right?
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Ys
[04:06] <CoJaBo-Eee> Any other ideas?
[04:07] <arrrghhh> but i can't right click on menus like you describe.
[04:07] <DaSkreech> are there differencs between the two?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: The main Kmenu? You can't right click on it?
[04:07] <CoJaBo-Eee> Knetworkmanager is printing out a lot of "WirelessSecurity::getEnabled false (null)", does that mean anything?
[04:08] <arrrghhh> DaSkreech, on the blue arrow?  i'm not using 3.5.10 or whatever they stopped at.
[04:08] <DaSkreech> The Blue K
[04:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> JediatNight , DaSkreech Any ideas?
[04:09] <arrrghhh> i do get a menu when i click on the blue arrow, but it doesn't have a menu edit at all.
[04:09] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee:  are there differencs between the two?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> arrrghhh: maybe it's just mine :)
[04:09] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: What 2?
[04:10] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee: Did you try any other wlan client besides knetworkmanager?
[04:10] <CoJaBo-Eee> No.
[04:12] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: The two machines
[04:14] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: This one is an EeePC with a ra-something wifi card, the other is a Dell not sure of the card.
[04:14] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: has it ever seen a wifi router?
[04:15] <CoJaBo-Eee> The dell is not able to see my main network or the test network (all default settings). The EeePC sees the test network and is connected to the main.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> !wifi | CoJaBo-Eee
[04:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Where do I start there?
[04:22] <JediatNight> CoJaBo-Eee: Probably you can try with your other router.
[04:22] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: ugh someone dumped the kubuntu pages so they are blank
[04:22] <CoJaBo-Eee> Neither router is seen by the Dell
[04:23] <CoJaBo-Eee> lspci lists the card as a Broadcom BCM4311.
[04:27] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Ah ok hold
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !broadcom
[04:28] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: ^^^^
[04:28] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is that suppossed to be blank? o_O
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> um
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> i need a bit of help with my ethernet
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> my wired worked
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> my wifi didn't
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> i followed a faq
[04:29] <Psycho_Sonic> which i'll show in a minute
[04:30] <Psycho_Sonic> and now my wifi doesn't work
[04:30] <Psycho_Sonic> err
[04:30] <Psycho_Sonic> i mean my wired doesn't work now
[04:30] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Blank page?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> What's going on with the wiki?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:31] <DaSkreech> !broadcom is Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:31] <Psycho_Sonic> i followed this thread
[04:32] <Psycho_Sonic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[04:32] <Psycho_Sonic> i edited the /etc/network/installation
[04:32] <Psycho_Sonic> to have WPA
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Psycho_Sonic: Does the Wifi work ?
[04:32] <Psycho_Sonic> no
[04:34] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Latest version in wiki is Hardy, the dell is running Intrepid. Is that going to mess anything up?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Shoudln't
[04:34] <Psycho_Sonic> err
[04:34] <Psycho_Sonic> i mean i edited
[04:34] <DaSkreech> py
[04:34] <Psycho_Sonic> i edited /etc/network/interfaces
[04:35] <DaSkreech> Psycho_Sonic: at what point did everything stop working and can you pastebin the last file you changed?
[04:35] <Psycho_Sonic> last file was...
[04:35] <Psycho_Sonic> pastebin?
[04:35] <mister-tea> !paste
[04:36] <Psycho_Sonic> pastebin?
[04:36] <Psycho_Sonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/89679/
[04:37] <Psycho_Sonic> also
[04:38] <Psycho_Sonic> it told me to restart the network using
[04:38] <Psycho_Sonic> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:38] <Psycho_Sonic> but it didn't do it
[04:38] <Psycho_Sonic> after that i tried to reconnect my wire and i haven't been able to connect since
[04:38] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: I don't get what it is trying to tell me. It says it is deprecated since it is already included, doesn't that mean it should already work?
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Psycho_Sonic: A) you were suppsoed to replace the parts that say <your essid here> with your essid and second you took out the parts that describe your wired network
[04:39] <DaSkreech> open /etc/network/interfaces~ and save it as /etc/network/interfaces and then restart networking and tell me if it comes back
[04:41] <Adola> Any one tried using Webcam with Kopete?
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> err
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> ok
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> but
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> that's just the example file, i did use that one
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> i mean
[04:41] <Psycho_Sonic> i did edit it correctly
[04:42] <Psycho_Sonic> brb, i
[04:42] <Psycho_Sonic> i'll check it out
[04:43] <CoJaBo-Eee> Adola: The one on this computer was detected by it fine.
[04:43] <Psycho_Sonic> before that was
[04:43] <Adola> Well, I don't have a webcam.  I just want to view
[04:43] <microchip420> how do i look up system specs in the terminal?
[04:43] <Psycho_Sonic> auto lo
[04:44] <Psycho_Sonic> iface lo inet loopback
[04:44] <microchip420> ?
[04:44] <microchip420> how do i look up system specs in the terminal, any one know?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> Adola: Broken in KDE4 it's probably simple to fix if it's anything like KDe3 you can volunteer to patch it if you like
[04:45] <Adola> Um...How?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Psycho_Sonic: where is eth0 ?
[04:45] <mister-tea> microchip420: depends on what specs your looking for
[04:45] <microchip420> cpu tower specs
[04:45] <DaSkreech> mister-tea: lshw it's a lot of info you may want to export it to HTML
[04:45] <Psycho_Sonic> um... there isn't one
[04:45] <Psycho_Sonic> >_>
[04:45] <microchip420> nm i got it now :)
[04:45] <mister-tea> i know he doesn't
[04:45] <Psycho_Sonic> i don't think i erased it...
[04:46] <microchip420> ty shoxy
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Adola: grab the code it's in the webcam.c file
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Psycho_Sonic: auto eth0
[04:46] <microchip420> peace everybody -- and remember, save money for a rainy day!!
[04:46] <Adola> I'm not very experience with coding...
[04:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Any ideas?
[04:51] <B-Niz> um
[04:51] <B-Niz> skreech?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Hi
[04:51] <B-Niz> sorry
[04:51] <B-Niz> psycho here
[04:51] <B-Niz> psycho_sonic
[04:52] <B-Niz> bloody hell
[04:52] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: You have a wireless card in the dell right? I mean you can see the wireless card?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> B-Niz: Whats up?
[04:52] <B-Niz> besides auto eth0
[04:53] <B-Niz> do I add anything else?
[04:53] <DaSkreech> B-Niz: Wired works now?
[04:53] <B-Niz> nope
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Even after restarting the network ?
[04:54] <B-Niz> oh
[04:54] <B-Niz> >_>
[04:54] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Wireless card shows up in iwconfig and knetworkmanager as device wlan0. lspci tells me the card is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01).
[04:55] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Ah ok sweet. What encryption do you have on the network ?
[04:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> WPA on main, none at all on test router. Neither show up.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: what does iwlist wlan0 scan say ?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: how goes?
[04:58] <Psych0_Sonic> nope
[04:58] <Psych0_Sonic> :/
[04:58] <DaSkreech> no wired?
[04:58] <Psych0_Sonic> nope
[04:58] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: No scan results
[04:58] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Did you flick the hardware switch ?
[04:59] <CoJaBo-Eee> Its on, and hasn't been touched since shutting down Vista where it worked.
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: you don't see it when you type ipconfig ?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: is it visible when you type iwconfig ?
[05:00] <CoJaBo-Eee> Its listed as wlan0
[05:00] <Psych0_Sonic> um
[05:01] <Psych0_Sonic> ipconfig just lists this comp's info
[05:01] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: ok that's good
[05:03] <Psych0_Sonic> ipconfig isn't showing that computer's status...
[05:03] <[Relic]> Hello :)
[05:04] <Psych0_Sonic> um
[05:04] <Psych0_Sonic> hello?
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Hi
[05:06] <Psych0_Sonic> sorry
[05:06] <Psych0_Sonic> yeah, i still have no wired
[05:06] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: try sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning  ?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: sudo ifconfig -a ?
[05:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Different error "Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down"
[05:08] <DaSkreech> Down eh?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> sudo ifup wlan0
[05:09] <Psych0_Sonic> ok, i've got info on my wired and wireless
[05:10] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[05:10] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: sudo ifup eth0 && sudo dhclient
[05:11] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Do you see wlan0 when you do ifconfig ?
[05:11] <CoJaBo-Eee> No, only in iwconfig
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:12] <DaSkreech> is it there when you do sudo ifconfig -a ?
[05:12] <CoJaBo-Eee> Yes.
[05:13] <DaSkreech> and you can't do a sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[05:13] <Psych0_Sonic> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:13] <Psych0_Sonic> THANK YOU
[05:13] <Psych0_Sonic> I LOVE YOU
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Yes yes send flowers
[05:13] <DaSkreech> :)
[05:13] <Psych0_Sonic> ok, one question
[05:14] <Psych0_Sonic> wireless still ain't working
[05:14] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory"
[05:14] <Psych0_Sonic> i followed the thread for my specific card step-by-step
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Woah
[05:14] <Psych0_Sonic> but when i followed the command to restart my network
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces as it is now
[05:15] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: It seems as if your card is there. Just missing ... something
[05:15] <Psych0_Sonic> !paste
[05:17] <Psych0_Sonic>  it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/89695/
[05:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Any other ideas?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Not off the top of my head.
[05:23] <Psych0_Sonic> also
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: what does iwconfig say ?
[05:24] <Psych0_Sonic> here's paste.ubuntu.com/89698/
[05:26] <DaSkreech> and does it turn up in ifconfig ?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Can You tell me if iwconfig shows your IP on the eee pc ?
[05:27] <Psych0_Sonic> paste.ubuntu.com/89700/
[05:27] <Psych0_Sonic> any ideas?
[05:27] <Psych0_Sonic> i've gotta get goin
[05:28] <DarkriftX> anyone know if the webapp that they use for ubuntu brainstorm is available?
[05:28] <DarkriftX> im looking to do something very similar
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: so it exists but is only owrking on ipv6 ?
[05:28] <Psych0_Sonic> yeah
[05:28] <Psych0_Sonic> but that's what the network's on, so it should be fine
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Psych0_Sonic: Woah where is it getting that 169 from?
[05:29] <Psych0_Sonic> i have no idea...
[05:30] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: iwconfig shows ssid, access point, etc, but no ip
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> the mask is wrong too
[05:30] <DaSkreech> that would probably be why it's not working
[05:30] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Ok thanks
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> what caused it?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> It's all wrong
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Don't know
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> crap
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> oh well
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> thanks
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> i g2g now
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> thanks a bunch for your helpl
[05:30] <Psych0_Sonic> cya round
[05:30] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig wlan0:avahi ip netmask mask would work
[05:30] <DaSkreech> should at least
[05:31] <Psych0_Sonic> alrighty, cool
[05:31] <Psych0_Sonic> cya
[05:31] <DaSkreech> bye
[05:33] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: I dont even know if I should go on the assumption that your card works fine. I'm not that experinced with Wifi network setups
[05:33] <DaSkreech> hi guest
[05:33] <DaSkreech> bah
[05:33] <DaSkreech> hi guiterb
[05:36] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Neither am I :/
[05:37] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: use a wired link for right now but you can ask here again when it's more busy (tomorrow isn't bad The day after is even better)
[05:39] <tacosarecool> hello
[05:39] <tacosarecool> Is 8.10 finally stable
[05:39] <tacosarecool> And kde4
[05:39] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Ethernet does not work either...?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> Wot?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> You never mentioned that
[05:40] <DaSkreech> tacosarecool: wot?
[05:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> Didn't try it before.
[05:40] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: You get nothing from it?
[05:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> Same problem in knetworkmanager, add the config, click connect, nothing happens.
[05:40] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: bah what does ifconfig say?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> It's DHCP ?
[05:41] <CoJaBo-Eee> Static IP
[05:41] <tacosarecool> That could be a problem
[05:41] <tacosarecool> There could be a ip conflicting
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Oh no there is a bug with knetworkmanager for static ips
[05:41] <tacosarecool> oh ok
[05:41] <DaSkreech> just kill knetworkmanager and set it manually
[05:41] <CoJaBo-Eee> What do i do?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig eth0 ipaddress netmask 255.etc
[05:44] <CoJaBo-Eee> Not sure the correct syntax
[05:46] <DaSkreech> sudo ifconfig <name of card> <ip address that you want> netmask <the netmask you want>
[05:46] <tacosarecool> Ok
[05:46] <tacosarecool> I'm going to burn a new cd
[05:46] <tacosarecool> And go into ubuntu again then I'll get kubuntu
[05:46] <tacosarecool> On top
[05:46] <DaSkreech> tacosarecool: what did you mean is it stable?
[05:46] <tacosarecool> Sorry I think I found a fix
[05:47] <tacosarecool> I just need to not install flgrx and not install xserver-xgl
[05:47] <tacosarecool> Wait
[05:47] <tacosarecool> In kde4
[05:47]  * DaSkreech shivers at xgl
[05:47] <tacosarecool> Can you not install as much programs
[05:48] <tacosarecool> it's says like
[05:48] <tacosarecool> I can't install as much programs under kde4 as I could gnome
[05:48] <tacosarecool> Like .bins
[05:48] <tacosarecool> I couldn't just open them
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> You don't open bins
[05:48] <tacosarecool> And it said permission denied under kde4
[05:48] <tacosarecool> but in gnome it worked fine
[05:48] <DaSkreech> What was the bin?
[05:49] <tacosarecool> twitair desktop
[05:49] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: does that make sense?
[05:49] <liz_> Hi all, I'm in the third-party software of adept settings and was wondering if the repository "... hardy partner (Source Code)" should also be selected???
[05:49]  * DaSkreech shrugs. There is no reason for it not to work under KDE if you have a problem ask here
[05:49] <DaSkreech> liz_: If you like as far as I know the only thing in there is Opera
[05:50] <tacosarecool> Ok well I'm going to reinstall
[05:50] <tacosarecool> Wait does kde4 not like gnome?
[05:50] <DaSkreech> It's software
[05:51] <DaSkreech> it doesn't like or not like anything
[05:51] <tacosarecool> Ok
[05:51] <tacosarecool> now to find a disc
[05:51] <liz_> DaSKreech: ok, was just wondering if I should since I had already selected "... hardy partner" thought maybe they were co-dependent
[05:52] <DaSkreech> liz_: Oh I see. No they are now
[05:52] <DaSkreech> not
[05:52] <DaSkreech> liz_: One holds binaries one holds the source code if available
[05:53] <DaSkreech> If you don't need the source code for those applications then you don't need the Source repository
[05:53] <liz_> DaSKreech: Alright, thanks :)
[05:54] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Not working, not sure what else to do.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee:
[05:55] <DaSkreech> What do you mean not working
[05:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> It responds to ping from this computer, but cannot connect or oing anything else.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ok
[05:56] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: can you ping the router?
[05:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> No
[05:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> Mask might not be set, not sure how to set it.
[05:57] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: what did you use?
[05:58] <ubuntu> k
[05:59] <CoJaBo-Eee> ifconfig eth0 add [ip] worked last time I had to manually connect
[05:59] <guiterb> all
[06:00] <guiterb> how to install the arm-linux-gcc?
[06:00] <tacosarecool> Hooray found a disc
[06:00] <guiterb> who can tell me ?
[06:00] <liz_> Is there a difference between the synaptic package manager and adept???
[06:01] <tacosarecool> You've got to be kidding me!
[06:01] <DaSkreech> liz_: one is for gnome one is for kde
[06:01] <tacosarecool> And you can install kde on top of gnome
[06:01] <tacosarecool> also
[06:01] <DaSkreech> beside
[06:02] <CoJaBo-Eee> Am I missing something?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: Umm ok what's the router you are using?
[06:02] <liz_> tacosarecool: so they should have the same packages, no?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: I'm guessing the netmask :)
[06:02] <DaSkreech> liz_: They do
[06:03] <liz_> thanks
[06:03] <npurciful> I am having a issue with video. I installed intrepid and did like 206 updates and the left side of my screen is cut off. i have tried everything i can think of inc;uding a new xorg.conf
[06:04] <tacosarecool> woot blank cd
[06:04] <npurciful> now i do know the update had to be in the last week because i had another install do just the same thing
[06:05] <tacosarecool> You know the day ubuntu came out I was able to find a fast server the severe storm labs
[06:05] <DaSkreech> npurciful: How wide is your screen?
[06:05] <npurciful> 32, 1366x768
[06:06] <tacosarecool> I already have the iso download
[06:06] <tacosarecool> ed
[06:06] <CoJaBo-Eee> Somehow it works now.
[06:06] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: ok you are using ipv4 right ?
[06:06] <npurciful> it is fine with 720p but i have had it at 1366x768 for about 1.5 years
[06:06] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: o_O
[06:06] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee:  You can ping your rouer now?
[06:07] <npurciful> i am missing like 70 pixels on the left
[06:07] <trhgekj> DaSkreech: Yes
[06:07] <DaSkreech> trhgekj:
[06:07] <DaSkreech> And get on the net it seems
[06:08] <CoJaBo-Dell> Yes, at least I can try to update stuff now...
[06:08] <npurciful> is the a list of recent updates that maybe i can try to figure out which it was. launchpad and google didnt seem to find anything
[06:08] <npurciful> s/the/there
[06:08] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Dell: :-) yOu can ask in here when there are more people on to get wireless up It shoudln't be that hard with someone familar with wifi
[06:09] <DaSkreech> npurciful: I'm figuring it was an X update
[06:09] <npurciful> yeap
[06:09] <npurciful> i am going to dpkg.log and checking changelogs
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Is there a backup of your xorg.conf file ?
[06:09] <DaSkreech> pl
[06:10] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:10] <npurciful> it is the one created from nvidia-xconfig, nothing special always worked, until this update
[06:11] <npurciful> just reinstalled, install nvidia driver, everything was good, reboot install updates, reboot, screen is cutoff
[06:14] <tacosarecool> Ok it's burning
[06:15] <tacosarecool> I think I'm going to defrag before I reinstall
[06:15] <npurciful> it is definintly the xserver kdm is cutoff too
[06:15] <npurciful> defrag?
[06:17] <tacosarecool> Because I'm dual booting
[06:17] <npurciful> ah
[06:17] <tacosarecool> So it's best to defrag
[06:17] <tacosarecool> Before doing a repartition
[06:18] <npurciful> iwasnt thinking, i just run kubuntu
[06:18] <npurciful> and vm windows
[06:19] <npurciful> okay well on dec 2 libx11-data was updated, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/x11/libx11-data
[06:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> DaSkreech: Looks like theres some network stuff listed in updates, maybe that will help something.
[06:20] <npurciful> and it is also list in intrepid-updates
[06:24]  * CoJaBo-Eee will have to try it again tomorrow...
[06:24] <justyb11> npurciful: Do you have the nvidia-settings util?
[06:24] <npurciful> yes
[06:25] <justyb11> npurciful: Have you try that tool?
[06:25] <npurciful> yes
[06:25] <npurciful> how do you revert packages
[06:26] <npurciful> dpkg -i <pkg>
[06:28] <justyb11> npurciful: What driver are you using?
[06:29] <npurciful> i have tried 173, 177, 180.16 all same result
[06:29] <npurciful> it isnt the driver the xscreen is off the screen too
[06:30] <justyb11> It sounds a lot like your xorg.conf
[06:30] <npurciful> deleted and recreated it
[06:30] <npurciful> it does it from a livecd too
[06:31] <npurciful> if do all updates
[06:34] <npurciful> brb
[06:46] <npurciful> err, that didnt work
[06:46] <npurciful> okay my screen look like you shifted it 70pixel left
[06:47] <npurciful> left side cutoff and the rightside is a black bar
[07:31] <JediatNight> Sweet , My phantom comics download is complete :)
[07:50] <npurciful> thanks for all that helped me i did figure it out
[07:51] <npurciful> it turns out the my monitor autocallibration was off
[07:51] <npurciful> so it shifted the screen, i had just done a bunch of update and blamed that.
[07:58] <liz_> hello all, does anyone know if I have to install the virtualbox-ose-guest-modules-386 along with virtualbox-ose???
[08:17] <awad> hi there
[08:17] <guiterb> hi
[08:17] <colin_> hello also
[08:18] <AzAel> er who knows how to enable multi user sound in intrepid
[08:18] <awad> there is a problem with the rear speaker ... it is work only with windows ... and i tried to play it on kubuntu ..and i couldn't ???????
[08:19] <AzAel> or even better have sound output switch between active users
[08:22] <awad> AzAel can u explain plz /
[08:24] <ben> um
[08:25] <ben> i'm having a problem with wifi
[08:25] <ben> can anyone help?
[08:27] <desu> awad: open a terminal and run "alsamixer -c 0"
[08:28] <desu> try muting/unmuting and changing the states of various channels
[08:28] <desu> ben: what seems to be the problem?
[08:33] <liekzomg> can you still encrypt root partition on install with live cd or do i need to get alternate / netinstall what ever it's called?
[08:34] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: alternate
[08:34] <liekzomg> thanks hyper
[08:34] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: need a howto?
[08:34] <liekzomg> isn't it just an option?
[08:34] <hyper_ch> it's a bit more complicated if you want to manually set partitions and not have it setup automatically
[08:35] <liekzomg> aah would be awesome of you to link me
[08:36] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: http://www.howtoforge.com/encrypting-the-system-manually-upon-installation-ubuntu8.04
[08:36] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: and you might find this interesting also: http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile
[08:36] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: and eventually also this: http://www.howtoforge.com/unlock-a-luks-encrypted-root-partition-via-ssh-on-ubuntu
[08:36] <liekzomg> thanks hyper, you're a champ
[08:36] <hyper_ch> liekzomg: just three howtos by me ;)
[08:37] <ben> k, i'm back
[08:37] <ben> that was strange
[08:37] <ben> anyway
[08:37] <ben> my card is officially unsupported
[08:37] <ben> but according to this thread
[08:39] <ben> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539
[08:39] <ben> i can get it working
[08:39] <ben> i've gotten the card recognized
[08:39] <ben> but it still won't let me connect to wpa
[08:39] <hyper_ch> ben: you could try WICD as network manager if there is a problem
[08:40] <ben> i am
[08:40] <hyper_ch> ^^
[08:40] <ben> whenever i try to connect the wireless
[08:40] <ben> it says This network requires encryption to be enabled
[08:41] <ben> wat
[08:42] <ben> and now...
[08:42] <ben> when i run ifconfig, my wap0 isn't there...
[08:43] <AzAel> well to explain i finally updated to intrepid and set up a login for my wife with the view of switching as either of us used needed
[08:43] <AzAel> how ever if she logs in after i do i loose sound
[08:43] <AzAel> and she gets it
[08:45] <AzAel> im guessing its either a quirk of kde4/phonon or device permissions
[08:50] <AzAel> no one?
[08:52] <Firefishe> AzAel:  What was your question?
[08:54] <ben> i have a quick question bout kde
[08:54] <ben> where's power management?
[08:54] <AzAel> i loose sound if some one else logs in whilst i am
[08:54] <ben> i'm on a laptop, so it's pretty handy
[08:54] <ben> the battery icon was there before, but once i updated it left
[08:54] <AzAel> Firefishe: i lose sound but sound on there vtty works fine
[08:56] <Firefishe> AzAel:  Hmm.  Sounds like the other login is taking over the sound system from your own.
[08:57] <AzAel> Firefishe: im guessing it a permissions issue, ie they arent sharing nice
[08:57] <AzAel> this is a recent upgrade to 8.10 so im a little lost because of al the back end changes
[08:57] <Firefishe> AzAel:  You might try putting both users in one group specifically for sound
[08:57] <AzAel> true that
[09:00] <AzAel> Firefishe: No luck ill log out and back in again
[09:01] <Firefishe> AzAel:  I usually use a gui-based app for wep/wpa config.  I am not familiar with the cli for wpa yet
[09:02] <ben> um
[09:02] <AzAel> Firefishe: that would be ben you want to direct that too
[09:02] <AzAel> :P
[09:02] <ben> do you know how i can access power management?
[09:03] <Firefishe> AzAel:  Sorry, it's late, and I'm tired ;)
[09:03] <AzAel> Firefishe: all good
[09:03] <AzAel> brb
[09:07] <AzAel> Firefishe: sweet all working now thank you add both users to the audio group
[09:07] <zixelex> what everybody recomend kde3 or kde4
[09:08] <hoe_ax> yes
[09:10] <Firefishe> zixelex:  kde 3 for stability, robustness, and being able to modify your settings the way you want.  KDE 4.1.x is still a bit unfinished, although the polish is nice ;).  I'm using 8.10, and am probablly going to have to cmake-build the entire kde suite from svn.
[09:11] <Firefishe> zixelex:  keeping it out of mainline kubuntu is, imho, just a crime ;)
[09:11] <zixelex> Im just install kubuntu kde4
[09:11] <Firefishe> While I'm on that subject, does anybody know if someone has backported kde3 for kubuntu?
[09:41] <chestnut> Hi! I'm looking for the folderview plasma applet -- which package do I have to install? (I thought kdeplasma-addons, but that seems to have been wrong)
[09:52] <chestnut> Got it - it was kdebase-plasma. Sorry for bothering you all!
[10:27] <RurouniJones> Anyone managed to successfully copy a PSX CD with K3b? If I try normal copy it errors on reading a track. If I use clone mode then the emulator cannot read the iso file.
[10:28] <RurouniJones> nvm, found an answer by the looks of it
[10:33] <RurouniJones> PSXIM appears to be the anwer to backing up PSX games if anyone else was wondering. you can find posts about it on the ubuntu forums, there is a GUI version as well
[10:57] <runlevelten> It would be really nice if the default interactive shell and the one used to interpret commands were the same. :(
[11:09] <Andale> hello at everyone... I have bought a internet key huawey E169. Kubuntu allow me to connect with him only GSM or GPRS. I would like to connect with UMTS or HSDPA. What must I do?
[11:15] <kalel> !it
[11:16] <leafw> I have a problem I don't understand: thinkpad T60p with ATI FireGL V5250. fglrx is installed and not blacklisted, and setup as the driver in xorg.conf. But fglrx is not listed in lsmod! And glrxinfo says "Mesa, Indirect". But glxgears run at 400 FPS! I don't get it: is fglrx running or not? lsmod indicates that it isn't ... since ist's not loaded.
[11:16] <leafw> and then. sudo modprobe fglrx says: "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"
[11:17] <leafw> but /var/log/Xorg.0.log says it's fine! I really, really, don't understand what is going on.
[11:22] <tue> leafw: does fglrxinfo give an error?
[11:22] <tue> leafw: is it a problem that begun when you upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10?
[11:23] <ebowyer> not the dredded 8.10
[11:24] <tue> ebowyer: i actually kind of like the new features in 8.10 :-). powermanagement is much better. but it totally broke fglrx for me.
[11:24] <leafw> tue: fglrxinfo does not give an error, but reports Mesa GLX Indirect
[11:25] <leafw> tue: yes, the problem goes back to when I upgraded to 8.10
[11:25] <leafw> tue: sorry, no, I mean from 7.10 to 8.04
[11:25] <leafw> tue: I am running 8.04
[11:26] <tue> leafw: well, have you tried to purge everything that has to do with fglrx, run dpgk --reconfigure xorg and then reinstalling fglrx, run aticonfig --initial?
[11:27] <kalel> !it
[11:27] <tue> (this was what did it for me. i have an ati x1300 and that seems to be the best way to treat problems)
[11:27] <leafw> tue: yes, I have done similar incantations
[11:28] <leafw> tue: I think I am going to install the driver from ati webpage, after emoving all ubuntu-related fglrx drivers.
[11:29] <leafw> tue: thanks in any case.
[11:29] <tue> leafw: hm. im really not an expert in anytihng but the x1300. and the only reason i got it to work was because kubuntu got to the point where it could do it more or less automatically.
[11:30] <tue> leafw: have you tried to search for your graphics card on forums and see if it works for others?
[11:31] <tue> leafw: graphic cards with propriatary drivers can be as frustrating as wireless on gentoo :-D .
[11:38] <Newbz> Any linux wizards up?
[11:39] <elwood> tue: have you got an x1300?
[11:39] <Newbz> Both my linux installs have just started haveing issues with lag connecting to any DNS name.  No problems with pinging by number.
[11:39] <elwood> Newbz: change dns server :)
[11:39] <Newbz> It does not happen under windows.
[11:41] <elwood> Newbz: check your /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <Newbz> If I ping google.com There will be a 5 second lag between it does the ping, the time is normal.  I can ping by number and the ping does not have this lag.  Also if I ping localhost it does it without lagging.  My etc/resolv.conf only listed my router.  I removed it and it was still the same.
[11:42] <tue> elwood: yah.
[11:42] <elwood> Newbz: try setting opendns
[11:47] <Newbz> Duh trying this on gnome atm.  Can I just put opendns addresses into /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:50] <elwood> Newbz: yes, but you can also use  wicd
[12:03] <Newbz> elwood:  Sorry about the time that took.  Not familar with gnome defaulted to doing it in bash.  Anyways yes that solved my issue completely.  Can you tell me why this might be happening?
[12:04] <elwood> Newbz: well i suppose it's not an OS fault, i do the same because my provider's dns server are shitty
[12:08] <sourcemaker> how can I compose html mails with inline pictures in KMAIL?
[12:08] <Newbz> Elwood:  I am not sure I understand why OS should matter for DNS retrieval though.  My windows systems are not having problems useing my providers DNS.
[12:11] <elwood> Newbz: uhm, no idea, i'm not an expert
[12:17] <Newbz> Elwood:  Thanks for your time.  Going to try to put the settings into my router and see if it propogates through my network.
[12:24] <simca_x> Hello everyone. Im updated to kde 4.2b2 and it seems that compiz-kde depends to libplasma2 (4.1.3), but that conflicts with libplasma3 (4.2b2). How can i use compiz-kde instead of kwin (kwin is much slower here)?
[12:55] <torero> !ru
[13:08] <gosia> hi how can i install yo frankie on amd64 kernel?
[13:28] <dbeaver> hi
[13:29] <Texas89> anyone up
[13:29] <fleetcommand> up? it's afternoon here ;)
[13:29] <cuznt> maybe
[13:29] <Texas89> its 6 30 am here
[13:30] <Texas89> mind keepin me companyy
[13:30] <Texas89> hi roooz
[13:31] <Texas89> anyone wanna talk
[13:34] <mrksbrd> Texas89: not a general chat channel, only for tech issues with kubuntu software
[13:40] <Mamarok> !ot | Texas89:
[13:53] <ps> hi, im using ubuntu intrepid and i want to install kde4 from repositories, can someone help me?
[14:03] <Taladan_> ps: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[14:11] <leonard> lut
[14:16] <leafw> tue: I solved my graphics card problem ... bu upgrading to 8.10. But this time, since my disk was safely partitioned with a separate home, I did a complete reinstallation of ubuntu onto the root partition. Works great!
[14:16] <cuznt> this is great my linux dc++ shows the usage and bandwidth of my ktorrent...
[14:16] <cuznt> nice leafw.
[14:17] <cuznt> sometimes magic just happens in front of you
[14:17] <leafw> cuznt: always have a separate home partition ... saved the day so many times.
[14:17] <cuznt> i have 2 hard drive
[14:17] <cuznt> and a spare kde installed on the 2nd
[14:17] <cuznt> ;)
[14:18] <leafw> cuznt: I keep yet another partition with ubuntu-64bit in it ... all sorts of magic.
[14:20] <leafw> cheers!
[14:20] <cuznt> next processor is gonna be 64
[14:20] <cuznt> peas leaf
[14:20] <tue> leafw: hehe, exactly my experience with fglrx, the problem is suddenly fixed and one have no idea what caused it or what solved it :-)
[14:21] <LetsGo67> How do I play iTunes FairPlay media in Ubuntu?
[14:35] <guney> hello
[14:35] <dereine> hi
[14:35] <dereine> doesn anyone know how to let look the gtk fonts like the nice kde fonts?
[14:36] <jussi01> dereine: system settings - appearance - gtk styles and fonts ;)
[14:36] <dereine> sure but the fonts does't look the same
[14:36] <dereine> there is no antitialsing on gtk fonts
[14:48] <kalel_> ciao
[14:49] <kalel_> !it
[14:53] <ps> adept cant find all packages
[14:53] <ps> some help?
[15:02] <cactux> Hello, I have no sound anymore. Everything was fine until yesterday, sound disappeared. Kubuntu 8.04. Restarting session or PC does not bring it back.
[15:03] <cactux> How can I investigate the problem? I tried KMix
[15:04] <dhmitri> i need some help too
[15:04] <dhmitri> i want install zsnes emulator, but i cant do nasm work
[15:08] <pronoy> !pulseaudio | cactux
[15:09] <cactux> I think I was using ALSA
[15:09] <pronoy> cactux: i think you should check it out
[15:14] <cactux> ok, pulseaudio may solve the problem, but I would like toi understand where it comes from
[15:14] <cactux> sound was working
[15:15] <cactux> With Linux, it should be possible to find out where is the problem, first. Am I right ?
[15:15] <cactux> I prefer to avoid this path which consists in installing many softwares, I am not under windows. I prefer Linux because we can understand how it works
[15:16] <pronoy> cactux: correct :) but i can't help you there
[15:16] <cactux> pronoy: :(
[15:17] <pronoy> cactux: i am learning too...sorta noob :) so as soon as i have any idea or progress on this issue i'll keep you posted ..that cool ?
[15:17] <cactux> thx
[15:18] <zorael> Semi-related: if I'm compiling something into a package, where can I increment the package version string so that update managers won't insist on replacing them, once installed, with versions from repositories?
[15:19] <zorael> (had to recompile xserver-xorg-core to get rid of video garbage upon drawing new objects, in KDE4)
[15:20] <pronoy> cactux: did the sound go off after upgrading to hardy >
[15:20] <pronoy> ?
[15:20] <cactux> pronoy: no, I was on a fresh install of 8.04 since a few weeks
[15:21] <cactux> Before that, I was using a 7.04 since several months, without problems.
[15:22] <x3x> ciao
[15:23] <pronoy> cactux: i guess its probably because pulseaudio isn't set as default for everything
[15:24] <cactux> but I was not using pulseaudio, and I had sound
[15:24] <pronoy> i see
[15:24] <cactux> I will try with a different user, I come back later. Maybe there is something wrong in my profile. See you
[15:26] <rimbomban> list
[15:31] <mrksbrd> cactux: don't know if this will explain.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/198453
[15:33] <noaXess> !mp3
[15:38] <alehanders> ciao
[15:38] <alehanders> italiani?
[15:43] <mrksbrd> !it | alehanders
[16:07] <jermain> hi every
[16:07] <jermain> *everyone
[16:08] <jermain> q: question: how can i tell from /etc/passwd if an account is locked?
[16:09] <jermain> User1:*:51:501:user name:/bin/bash   seems to be locked but how does it show in this line?
[16:10] <dustin> trying to use cedega on kubuntu 8.10 it aproves of all of my hardware but when I open my game it claimes unsuported video device
[16:10] <dustin> the game ran on this hardware in windows
[16:10] <jermain> im pretty newb, but id say its your drivers
[16:11] <jermain> maybe your linux drivers dont support all the same features you need for you game to run the way it does on windows
[16:11] <dustin> possible
[16:12] <jermain> which game are you trying to run?
[16:13] <dustin> Guild Wars
[16:13] <jermain> do you get an error?
[16:14] <dustin> unsuprted video device
[16:14] <dustin> ati 2600 pro vid card
[16:14] <jermain> did you try googling for the error?
[16:15] <dustin> ran through the cedega faq but I will google it
[16:15] <jermain> good luck :)
[16:24] <Dragonath> hey, my computer just froze pretty much out of the blue, any idea what log should I check to see what went wrong?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> привет
[16:37] <ferdous> hi
[16:45] <hasan_> how use dictconv
[16:55] <[LT]Hisoka> bonsoir à tous
[16:58] <Dragonath> !fr
[16:58] <[LT]Hisoka> omg sorry x)
[17:06] <cuznt> dont be sorry
[17:09] <johannes__> hi, im running kubuntu 8.10 and want to create a install dvd for ubuntu 8.04 my internet traffic is limited, all I can do is access a 8.04 and 8.10 repository, how can I create this disc?
[17:13] <Dragonath> johannes__: I'm not sure how to do that only with repositories, however you can just order a 8.04 cd (or dvd) if I am not mistaken
[17:16] <johannes__> Dragonath thanks, but this is supposed to become a christmas present, I think there wont be enough time left
[17:16] <johannes__> I heard about a tool in ubuntu you can use to create a install disc on an usb stick, maybe this can be used to create a normal disc
[17:18] <szrhawaii> my settings manager doesnt have as much utilities as when i had 3.5 how or what do i need to download to get the settings i need to change the themes for the window look and feel
[17:19] <szrhawaii> i remember before i just download dekoration and it worked does this one need a different one
[17:19] <astromme> It's still there in Appearance -> Style
[17:19] <szrhawaii> yeah but style doesnt have the options it used to
[17:19] <astromme> About installing new ones? you probably put it in some .blah folder... I don't remember where
[17:19] <szrhawaii> to upload new themes
[17:20] <szrhawaii> if you knew the file location that would be great
[17:20] <Dragonath> johannes__: this might work, although I can't help you more than pointing you at www.pendrivelinux.com
[17:20] <johannes__> thanks Ill have a look
[17:21] <szrhawaii> i guess everything has to be manually down in this version huh
[17:21] <szrhawaii> oh well fun stuff
[17:21] <Dragonath> johannes__: however if you are running 8.10 you might need to download a huge bunch of 8.04 stuff - might be better just to find a way to download the whole install cd
[17:22] <Dragonath> unless you are getting the repositories off a cd already :)
[17:23] <johannes__> Dragonath ftp://ftp.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/ubuntu/ this is what I can access
[17:24] <Dragonath> johannes__: I can't seem to access it
[17:24] <johannes__> oh seems to be a dorm intern ftp
[17:27] <johannes__> found it: its called usb-creator, Ill check it out
[17:28] <johannes__> nope, it needs a cd as source
[17:33] <Dragonath> johannes__: you absolutely can't download an iso file for a cd?
[17:33] <johannes__> I can but I got 500 mb traffic left
[17:34] <johannes__> maybe there is a very small install cd which uses repositories for installation?
[17:34] <zer0o> hi guys, do u know if kopete's latest release (the one that comes with kubuntu 8.10 on kde4) supports the offline messaging and the sign-in as invisible on msn protocol?
[17:37] <[LT]Hisoka> johannes, i know that it exists for Debian
[17:37] <[LT]Hisoka> but i don't know for ubuntu :s
[17:37] <Dragonath> johannes__: if it absolutely has to be ubuntu then I'm not sure
[17:38] <johannes__> its for my grandma, Im used to ubuntu and it should be stable with long term support
[17:38] <Dragnslcr> zer0o- I vaguely recall hearing that there are several problems with MSN on the latest version of Kopete, but I don't use MSN any more so I'm not sure
[17:40] <Dragonath> I can't find kubuntu or xubuntu on ubuntu.com :D
[17:41] <zer0o> Dragnslcr: mmm ok, du know where can i ask? cuz i went on kopete.kde.org  but havent found much and even on #kopete no-one replied... help!!
[17:41] <szrhawaii> is there a default application to change the boot splash screen on kde 4
[17:42] <White_Pelican> hi everyone, I just installed intrepid under virtual box to test it. the install went fine, I'm now doing the dist-upgrade. will that bring in 4.2 beta 1?
[17:42] <Dragnslcr> zer0o- #kopete is probably best, though it is usually pretty quiet in there, so it might take a while for someone to answer
[17:42] <gluonman> Is anyone familiar with the problem kopete has where notifications sometimes get stuck and you have to reboot your computer just to get it off the freaking screen? Is there a better way to get it off the screen so I can watch my movie?
[17:42] <Dragnslcr> zer0o- you could also try the mailing list
[17:45] <elwood> White_Pelican: intrepid has 4.1.3
[17:46] <White_Pelican> how do I bring in 4.2 beta 1?
[17:47] <szrhawaii> is there a good application software to change the splash screen or should i do it all manually
[17:48] <Deviltry> .
[17:48] <Deviltry> Question: Guys, anyone knows why the Romanian ubuntu repository isn't working ?
[17:48] <binMonkey> i'm having trouble opening a cd that came with a book.  i get the message permission denied.  i have tried to chmod and chown it but no luck.
[17:49] <binMonkey> i can't even cd into the it from /media
[17:50] <Dragnslcr> White_Pelican- http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-beta-2
[17:52] <White_Pelican> ty, I'll try that Dragnslcr after ll the updates come in
[17:52] <White_Pelican> one thing I've noticed is the change to adept
[17:53] <White_Pelican> looks interesting :)
[17:53] <Dragnslcr> I can't stand it
[17:53] <White_Pelican> I also like the sticky notes plazmoid but if I close it how do I get it back?
[17:53] <Dragnslcr> Dunno, I still use knotes
[17:53] <White_Pelican> not everyone needs a big sticky note thing on their desktop
[17:54] <ulysses__> hy
[17:54] <ulysses__> Is Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron an LTS release?
[17:55] <White_Pelican> from what I've heard ulysses__ , no
[17:55] <ulysses__> :(
[17:55] <White_Pelican> so sorry
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> Kubuntu 8.04 isn't, but Ubuntu 8.04 is
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> KDE 3 won't be supported for long enough
[17:55] <White_Pelican> right, that's my understanding
[17:56] <White_Pelican> that's too bad, Dragnslcr
[17:56] <ulysses__> i have Kubuntu 8.04, but when i upgrade my kubuntu to 8.10, i have a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/284774, and i use 8.04, because i think it is an lts:P
[17:56] <White_Pelican> from what I've seen so far, you an't do everything in kde 4 that you were able to do in kde 3
[17:57] <Ich> I have a rather serious bug here-the live CD does not want to install Ubuntu.  In fact, once it has formatted the hard drive, it freezes.
[17:57] <elwood> guys, the kde-experimental is more stable than neon-project right?
[17:57] <Ich> Where should I go for help?
[17:57] <brasil> how to configure my desktop
[17:57] <brasil> ?
[17:58] <Ich> So theres no help in sight here?
[17:58] <HavocXphere> Ich: What do you mean by it freezes exactly?
[17:59] <HavocXphere> brasil:What do you want to configure about the desktop?
[17:59] <brasil> i want to change
[17:59] <ulysses__> www.kde-look.org
[17:59] <Ich> I mean ether a. the computer hangs (non responsive to input, no change in output) or it tells me that there is some kind of error (does not specify) and restarts.
[17:59] <brasil> the frequence
[17:59] <Ich> Okay?
[17:59] <brasil> i wanna put
[17:59] <brasil> mhz
[18:00] <brasil> but im not chosing
[18:00] <nonickname2> hi; i'm getting garbled areas at the right and left side of the screen when the login screen is displayed
[18:00] <brasil> where to change
[18:00] <Ich> Its sort of a pain.  I was trying to just redo the system from the ground up because of chronic package list issues.
[18:00] <nonickname2> xorg.con only contains some generic stuff, no real settings
[18:00] <HavocXphere> brasil: Like refresh rate? Or the CPU/FSB frequency?
[18:00] <brasil> nno
[18:01] <brasil> the monitor frequency
[18:01] <nonickname2> is it advisable to change xorg.conf to tr and fix this issue/is this a known issue? (resoluion: 1024x600)
[18:01] <HavocXphere> Ich: Try the alternative install CD and/or installing in graphic safe mode (F4).
[18:01] <Ich> I am running in safe graphics mode right now.
[18:01] <HavocXphere> brasil: Hang on...I'll find a link for you
[18:01] <brasil> because my desktop isnt all showed
[18:01] <brasil> ok
[18:01] <Ich> The alt install of hardy is also being bogus.
[18:02] <szrhawaii> does anyone know what the file name is where the default boot splash is located in
[18:02] <Ich> Can't I download a "light" installer seperately , small eneough that it'll fit inside the live system (1gb of memory) and install that from inside?  Then from there build up a workable system?
[18:04] <HavocXphere> brasil: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3100136.msg161468#msg161468
[18:04] <Ich> Can someone point me to a place where I might find some help?  How big is spider linux?
[18:06] <HavocXphere> szrhawaii: No...but you can select one somewhere in the system settings
[18:06] <desu> szrhawaii: ubuntu-artwork.so
[18:07] <HavocXphere> Ich: You can install from a liveCD already...there is an install icon on the desktop. At least thats the way it was last time I used a liveCD
[18:07] <desu> or wait, that's not the right filename...
[18:07] <elwood> well, there is a way to export kmail,knoversation ecc 's configuration from a user to another? whitout copying all ~/,kde
[18:08] <desu> usplash-artwork.so
[18:09] <desu> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so, to be precise...
[18:09] <desu> it's a symlink  to the actual usplash theme
[18:10] <brasil> i think im not speaking sure
[18:10] <brasil> :S
[18:10] <HavocXphere> ?
[18:10] <brasil> mey desktop is working out of his frequency
[18:11] <brasil> its need to work at 60 mhz
[18:11] <szrhawaii> thanks
[18:11] <brasil> my*
[18:12] <HavocXphere> brasil: You can set whatever hz you need using the info in the link I posted. You'd need to replace the 85 with 60
[18:12] <Ich> "You can install from a liveCD already...there is an install icon on the desktop. At least thats the way it was last time I used a liveCD" That freezes
[18:13] <Ich> I think there is a problem with this live CD, but I have no way to check.  And it has alredy roached my hard drives.  I need a way to get a clean installation, to the hard drive, from within this.  Is that possible?
[18:14] <HavocXphere> Ich: Ok...what happens if you install straight from the boot option without going into the livecd environment
[18:14] <HavocXphere> you can check the cd by selecting "check CD for defects" when presented with option
[18:14] <brasil> isn there no other mode to change that configuration
[18:14] <brasil> ?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[18:15] <Ich> Same thing happens.
[18:16] <brasil> i dont know how to insert that codes
[18:16] <brasil> in my SO
[18:16] <Ich> I've tried this quite a few times.  I'm not usually stumped.
[18:16] <HavocXphere> Ich: Does the CD pass without defects?
[18:16] <brasil> i dont know nor waht is gtf
[18:17] <Ich> Atually, I don't think it does.  If I recall correctly, it whined about Xorg, but it may have been something else.
[18:17] <Ich> The 8.06 alt installer did not, however, whine at all when checked.
[18:17] <Ich> and it runs into the same issues.
[18:17] <HavocXphere> brasil: gtf is a command you put into konsole. i.e. press alt-f2 type in konsole and press enter. Then you get a terminal/commandline where you can type in the commands
[18:18] <sorush20> firefox 3.0
[18:18] <Ich> Why don't I connect to this room from another computer, so we have 2 to work with.  Perhaps I could install something onto this one from the other one...
[18:18] <sorush20> flash isn't working
[18:18] <brasil> ok thanks ill try it
[18:18] <sorush20> anyone know why?
[18:19] <Guest57397> hi, I have install kubuntu 8.10 yesterday on my pc, today I try to run vista on the same machine and I got "BOOTMGR is missing".. any help?
[18:19] <Ich> Why does kubuntu need to use &(^ing konquerer anyway?  Firefox may run a tad slower, be bulkier, etc, but at least it is bug-compatable with popular sites...
[18:19] <Ich> you have to get the flash plugin.
[18:19] <Ich> I think its in the uneverse reposatory as flashplugin-nonfree
[18:19] <sorush20> !flash
[18:20] <szrhawaii> hey desu is that the start up splash the one before the login screen
[18:20] <HavocXphere> Ich: So just install firefox. Konquerer is there because many like it. I don't...but thats just the way it is.
[18:20] <Ich> Well I can't install anything on the blasted live distro, but I don't need it right now.
[18:21] <Ich> amd64 processers can run x86 code, can't they?  Can I just install an x86 version on here and burn a fresh live CD and try again?
[18:21] <HavocXphere> yes
[18:21] <Ich> Should I try that?
[18:21] <Ich> Would there be any bad side effects?
[18:22] <HavocXphere> Stick to x86 while you're learning. You can always switch to x64 later
[18:22] <brasil> look i dont know insert that codes im in the konsole
[18:22] <Ich> google BASH
[18:22] <brasil> butttttttttt im so donkey
[18:22] <Ich> figure out how to phrase what you want done
[18:22] <brasil> bahhh
[18:22] <desu> szrhawaii: yes
[18:23] <Ich> then type it in.
[18:23] <Ich> Or, if you need help, ask one of the people here.  Thats what I'm doing.
[18:23] <szrhawaii> alright thanks
[18:23] <Ich> Mostly 'cause I don't have a BASh dictionary lying around or a free week...
[18:24] <krio> hi
[18:24] <szrhawaii> i went to /usr/lib/usplash and the .so file says its a shortcut
[18:24] <Ich> Damnit, there isin't a one liner perl script to just do it?
[18:24] <brasil> why i cant login in amsn?
[18:25] <Ich> do you have flash installed?
[18:25] <krio> i have on my computer a 7.04 kubuntu version
[18:25] <Ich> Lucky you.
[18:25] <krio> may i installed from different reposytori
[18:25] <Ich> I have 2 roached hard drives and a live CD :P
[18:25] <krio> sorry
[18:26] <Ich> Is your package list broken?
[18:26] <krio> may I install from different repository
[18:26] <Ich> No cops will come if you do.
[18:26] <wired925> hello can someone help me with KBlogger?
[18:26] <wired925> got a question
[18:26] <HavocXphere> Ich: Try to be helpful
[18:26] <Ich> Generally speaking, everything is nice and compatable, so I can't see why not.
[18:27] <Ich> However, in my experience, playing with the reposatory and package lists is like walking on glass.  So don't do it untill one of the people here has made sure it isin't actually just breaking everything.
[18:28] <brasil> anyone could help me?
[18:28] <Ich> What reposatory do you want to get it from?
[18:28] <Ich> What is amsn basil?
[18:28] <krio> of up version
[18:29] <krio> for example install OOo 3.0 or new version of gimp
[18:29] <draik> !wine
[18:30] <Lynet> In intrepid, which kubuntu package contains the obex:// protocol handler?
[18:30] <brasil> dont you know Ich
[18:30] <brasil> ??
[18:30] <Ich> kiro, you are trying to get an updated version of software?  Through the package installer?  Silly rabbit, the reposatorys's white bearded guardians won't let you do that.
[18:30] <Ich> The stuff in the reposatory is more "Stable".
[18:31] <Ich> I looked up amsn
[18:31] <Ich> Is the client stand-alone software?
[18:31] <brasil> an then?
[18:32] <Ich> Is the client stand alone software?
[18:32] <wired925> one more try; im new with kubuntu and got a question about the program KBlogger, ive got the following error: "XML RPC Error: Unknown type of XML markup received" can someone tell me what ive got to do?
[18:32] <brasil> ;/ i dont know waht is stand-alone
[18:32] <Ich> Open up the XML in kate
[18:32] <Ich> take out the good parts
[18:32] <Ich> make it inside the program froms cratch
[18:32] <Ich> *from scracth
[18:33] <Ich> SCRATCH sorry, not my usual keyboard.
[18:33] <Ich> Basil did you download amsn?
[18:33] <brasil> this already in my system
[18:33] <wired925> which xml ? im total noob in such things : /
[18:34] <Ich> Do you know what file is makeing it sad?
[18:34] <Ich> something.xml?
[18:34] <brasil> im using kurumin ng 8.06
[18:34] <brasil> just trying
[18:35] <brasil> is runnig on cd rom
[18:35] <Ich> Okay, so amsn is an app.  I'd contact amsn's people if I where you.
[18:35] <Ich> Wired, do you know what file is giving kblogger trouble?
[18:35] <wired925> my blog is at blogspot.com (google i knowxD) i try to publish a post
[18:36] <brasil> ich do u know
[18:36] <wired925> no dont know
[18:36] <brasil> how to change
[18:36] <krio> so there is no way?
[18:36] <brasil> my desktop frequency?
[18:36] <Ich> So why not just use blogger's in-browser tools?
[18:36] <wired925> like?
[18:37] <Ich> Wired, try to edit the stuff inside your browser
[18:37] <Ich> rather then with kblogger
[18:37] <wired925> because i thought it is easyer and comfortabler
[18:37] <Ich> I'm sure kblogger has lots of nice features, but if it won't work then its not so easy, is it>?
[18:37] <wired925> do you know an other tool like kblogger?
[18:38] <Ich> Just use the internet browser.  Back in my day, blogs where called memos, and blogging tools where typewriters.  Never had a typewriter have an error, even the ones that used XML (Humor)
[18:38] <wired925> hm kay xD
[18:38] <wired925> thx
[18:39] <Ich> So, no gurus out there that will help with kubuntu?
[18:39] <Lerxst51> Ich: i missed the beginning of what you were looking at
[18:57] <Ich_at_laptop> Hello?
[18:57] <Ich> Okay thats cool
[18:57] <Ich_at_laptop> I'm talking to myself
[19:04] <untitled__> hello everyone
[19:08] <legodude> hallo untitled__
[19:09] <stof> hello evrybody
[19:11] <stof> I have a bit probelm with my kubuntu
[19:12] <legodude> which is
[19:12] <snarkster> can someone please kick WarScriptUser i got a pm as soon as I entered
[19:12] <stof> with the gcc
[19:13] <stof> can I paste the message of error her
[19:13] <snarkster> hows the 4.2 Beta 2 release? any significant bugs, party crashers I should know about?
[19:13] <nonickname2> !paste
[19:13] <stof> stof@stof-laptop:~/Documents$ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:14] <stof> Reading package lists... Done
[19:14] <stof> Building dependency tree
[19:14] <stof> Reading state information... Done
[19:14] <stof> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:14] <stof> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[19:14] <stof> is only available from another source
[19:14] <stof> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[19:14] <stof> _________
[19:14] <stof> that s it
[19:15] <snarkster> i guess no 4.2 b2 users here
[19:15] <stof> so what do u think legodude
[19:16] <snarkster> arent you missing a repo?
[19:16] <legodude> stof: can you install gcc alone?
[19:17] <stof> legodude: hwo can I do that
[19:17] <legodude> try installing package "gcc"
[19:18] <stof> ok , I will try now
[19:19]  * legodude bemoans the lack of decent cad
[19:20] <stof> legodude:  it says that is already installed, take a look at that
[19:20] <stof> http://pastebin.com/d2208bf6a
[19:21] <legodude> blargh
[19:21] <legodude> what are you trying to do in the first place?
[19:22] <stof> to complile a program writen in C
[19:22] <legodude> okay
[19:22] <legodude> what happens when you try to compile it?
[19:22] <Lerxst51> hello, I am helping someone with a installation freeze, but I have to leave in a moment, does anyone want to take over helping him?
[19:22] <stof> I have an error message
[19:22] <legodude> which is?
[19:22] <liz_> hi room, I'm having an issue getting virtualbox to install an os, it states that "the vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv not created" yet I have installed the module package, anyone help???
[19:23] <stof> that s it: http://pastebin.com/md94bbf7
[19:25] <Xand3r> hey ho
[19:25] <stof> legodude:  my program is here: I don t think that there's a problem in the program :http://pastebin.com/d57ed32c2
[19:25] <legodude> what version are you using?
[19:25] <legodude> of kubuntu?
[19:25] <stof> 8.04.1
[19:25] <Xand3r> i want to install plasmoids, but the installer dont list all plasmoid i can gat from kde-look, what i am doing wrong?
[19:26] <legodude> you do have a bug in your program, but that is not the problem
[19:27] <legodude> what about package build-common
[19:27] <Bou> Xand3r: i think this is because some of plasmoids of kde-look needs to be built, so they are not availabl ein the plasmoids installer (not sure though)
[19:28] <stof> no I don't know it,
[19:28] <Bou> Xand3r: but i know i've installed some of them "manually", after building them from source
[19:28] <Xand3r> Bou: that could it be thx
[19:28] <stof> I will try
[19:28] <tomas_> hola
[19:29] <stof> legodude:  he could not find it
[19:29] <tomas_> ups
[19:29] <stof> my a problem of the OS
[19:30] <stof> maybe a problem of the OS
[19:30] <tomas_> ??
[19:30] <legodude> maybe your repositories are not set up correctly?
[19:31] <legodude> have you tried sudo apt-get update?
[19:31] <stof> yes
[19:32] <stof> just sudo apt-get install "package name"
[19:33] <legodude> have you tried "sudo apt-get update"?
[19:33] <legodude> is this machine connected to the internet?
[19:33] <stof> yes,
[19:33] <Ich_at_laptop> I think you can assume its on the internet if he is talking here XD
[19:34] <legodude> what does "sudo apt-get update" get you?
[19:34] <legodude> Ich_at_laptop: you would be surprised what people do...
[19:34] <stof> I made "sudo apt-get update" and here's something: a lot of lines
[19:35] <Ich_at_laptop> Right.  I'm gonna try to install again, just to keep everything interesting...
[19:35] <Ich> Here goes nothing...
[19:36] <legodude> stof: ...
[19:37] <stof> pastebin don't accept the message
[19:37] <stof> I don't paste it there
[19:37] <stof> I can't
[19:37] <legodude> how about the first 10 and last 10
[19:37] <Ich> I'm gonna pull the trigger and try installing now.  Ich will go dead, but Ich_at_laptop is the same guy
[19:37] <Ich_at_laptop> really
[19:39] <stof> E: The update command takes no arguments
[19:39] <stof> stof@stof-laptop:~/Documents$ sudo apt-get update
[19:39] <sparr> When I change resolution to 800x600/52.0 my monitor reports "Over Range" and goes into power save mode.  1024x768/51.0 and 1280x1024/50.0 work fine.  Why would 800x600/52.0 be unacceptable?  And, given that it is, how can I remove it from the list of valid modes?
[19:39] <stof> Get:1 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg [189B]
[19:39] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-en_US
[19:39] <Ich_at_laptop> I typed in my name & my quest and stuff
[19:39] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Translation-en_US
[19:39] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Translation-en_US
[19:39] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Translation-en_US
[19:39] <stof> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release.gpg [189B]
[19:39] <stof> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Translation-en_US
[19:39] <stof> Get:3 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release.gpg [189B]
[19:39] <legodude> stof: uh, pastebin man
[19:39] <Guest57397> how can I connect from kubuntu to a vista machine??
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Translation-en_US
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/universe Translation-en_US
[19:40] <legodude> Guest57397: connect what?
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
[19:40] <Ich_at_laptop> Detecting file systems
[19:40] <stof> Get:4 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release [65.9kB]
[19:40] <Ich_at_laptop> creating ext3
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Translation-en_US
[19:40] <legodude> stof: stop
[19:40] <Ich_at_laptop> in partition no 1
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/universe Translation-en_US
[19:40] <stof> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
[19:40] <stof> Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release [58.5kB]
[19:40] <stof> Get:6 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release [58.5kB]
[19:40] <stof> Get:7 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages [1178kB]
[19:40] <stof> Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Packages [95.5kB]
[19:40] <stof> Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Packages [7487B]
[19:40] <stof> Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Sources [19.9kB]
[19:40] <stof> Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Sources [892B
[19:40] <stof> that not work
[19:40] <stof> pastebin give me this message
[19:40] <Ich_at_laptop> are you spamming?
[19:40] <stof> Sorry, your post tripped our spam filter - let us know if you think this could be improved
[19:40] <Ich_at_laptop> lol
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> And, as usual, it is frozen at 5%
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> but the mouse still moves
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> this is around where it does...
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> *dies
[19:41] <stof> legodude:  what
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> 15%
[19:41] <legodude> stof: don't spam
[19:41] <Ich_at_laptop> better then usual
[19:41] <Guest57397> legodude: i have two computer, when both are running vista I can see the share files between both machines.. now I have my laptop with kubuntu, the question is, Can I access the share files from kubuntu ?
[19:42] <legodude> I'm really not sure, you can install other packages fine with apt-get
[19:42] <Guest57397> ledodude: sorry about my bad english
[19:42] <legodude> Guest57397: no problem, try dolphin?
[19:42] <Ich_at_laptop> calcing ciles to skip copying
[19:42] <legodude> "network" in dolphin
[19:42] <Ich_at_laptop> Clicking sounds, still no freeze
[19:42] <Ich_at_laptop> it dissapeared
[19:42] <stof> legodude:  excuse me , bat I m a newbie in computers
[19:42] <legodude> stof:  can you install other packages fine from apt-get?
[19:42] <Ich> ubiquity and install.py crashed
[19:43] <fbe> hi. i've a stupid problem since my upgrade from 8.0.4 => 8.10. running on macbook 2.1, i've keycode 8 that's received in loop by the wm. it's happening under kde, and xfce but *not* if i'm running only xterm without any window manager...
[19:43] <fbe> any idea ?
[19:43] <stof> no, no one
[19:43] <legodude> stof: ah, in that case it sounds like a respository problem of some sort
[19:43] <Ich> Okay.  I have a problem.  Whenever I try to install kubuntu, it bites the bag.
[19:43] <Guest57397> legodude: I cann't see the other machine from network..
[19:43] <stof> wait
[19:43] <stof> legodude:
[19:44] <stof> that works
[19:44] <legodude> Guest57397: do you know the IP address of the vista machine?
[19:44] <legodude> stof: what works?
[19:44] <stof> thank u very much legodude
[19:44] <Guest57397> yes
[19:44] <Ich> Vista machine?
[19:44] <CoJaBo-Eee> Has anyone here used Kubuntu Intrepid?
[19:44] <Ich> I'm sure vista is much harder to install then this...
[19:44] <Guest57397> legodude: yes
[19:44] <stof> the solution was " sudo apt-get update"
[19:44] <legodude> Guest57397: what happens if you put smb://ipaddress into dolphin's address bar?
[19:45] <legodude> stof: good to hear
[19:45] <sparr> CoJaBo-Eee: i would suggest against kubuntu intrepid.  use kubuntu hardy or ubuntu intrepid
[19:45] <stof> after that I installed build essential
[19:45] <Ich> Come on?  No takers?  Leave me to be tempted towards... windows?
[19:45] <stof> legodude:  thank you a lot
[19:45] <legodude> stof: you are missing a ')' in your program too
[19:45] <sparr> Ich: we are waiting for you tell us something more useful than "bites the bag"
[19:45] <legodude> you are welcome stof
[19:45] <stof> yes
[19:45] <CoJaBo-Eee> sparr: Hardy wasn't much better with connecting to networks either, what is wrong with it?
[19:45] <stof> I correct it
[19:46] <Guest57397> legodude: thanks a lot!! that was it:)
[19:46] <sparr> CoJaBo-Eee: i never had much trouble with hardy, not with networking at all.
[19:46] <jedix> Ich: try keeping your bag away from the cd rom tray
[19:46] <sparr> intrepid is a LOT less featureful than hardy due to the premature kde upgrade
[19:46] <Ich> Its a lot of text... let me put it all into another window (and into some logical order)
[19:46] <Ich> XD
[19:46] <stof> legodude:  good night
[19:46] <legodude> Guest57397: there are ways to get it working better, but I think you need a nmbd server
[19:46] <Ich> Its a metaphore for a crashing
[19:46] <virus> hello all
[19:46] <stof> and good night to all
[19:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> sparr: Is it just me or did they ship it with a completely broken knetworkmanager?
[19:47] <sparr> not completely, but it has issues
[19:47] <Guest57397> ledodude: get it working better  in which way??
[19:47] <sparr> it relies on some new dbus-based interface with the networkmanager service
[19:47] <sparr> which is flaky
[19:48] <legodude> Guest57397: well, if set up correct you should be able to browse the network and find it without typing in the IP address
[19:48] <sparr> and, among many other problems, prevents me from using knetworkmanager and gnome's nm-applet at the same time
[19:48] <virus> а тут есть русские у нас? :)
[19:48] <legodude> !ru
[19:48] <CoJaBo-Eee> sparr: I can enter config fine, but theres no status messages, no errors, just nothing happens. Any ideas?
[19:48] <sparr> CoJaBo-Eee: not a clue
[19:48] <CoJaBo-Eee> Has anyone else used it?
[19:48] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: you'd have to be a bit more specific
[19:48] <Guest57397> legodude: that is optimal.. the package is call nmdb right??
[19:49] <legodude> Guest57397: again, I'
[19:49] <legodude> Guest57397: again, I'm not cetain, but I think that might do it
[19:49] <legodude> worth giving it a shot
[19:49] <snarkster> why is it that when I goto upgrade to the 4.1.85 I get errors?
[19:49] <Ich> I was running into some persistant package list bugs with 8.06, and resolved to do a fresh installation of kubuntu, thinking that what I had learned since I origonally installed it would help me make it work this time...
[19:49] <Ich> Once the 8.10 installer (this disc) had gotten to the partitioning/installing phase, it decided that it would not work, and choked.
[19:49] <Ich> I tried to put the old (8.06) disc in.  That also choked.  I put an old hard drive in, to see if the current hard drive was the problem.  It roached the hard drive, then choked.
[19:50] <Ich> Error messages varied.  Some blamed the disc, some blamed the drive.  There is an IOerror somewhere between the surface of the optical disc and the platter of the hard disc.
[19:50] <Ich> The cd seems to choke only when I try to install it.  I could log onto chat on another PC and try repeatedly reinstalling, so I could give you more details...
[19:50] <Ich> I have tried many times and many diffrent ways, and I'm stumped.
[19:50] <Ich> Detailed eneough for you?
[19:50] <snarkster> there is nothing in the notes regarding errors
[19:50] <Guest57397> legodude: is not :p, but I will try to find it out.. thanks a lot :)
[19:50] <Ich> I could try installing it again if you like.
[19:50] <arun_> I dont see the network manager icon anymore. It disappeared when I tried to connect to a different wireless network but hasnt appeared since. using the kde 4.2 nightly
[19:51] <legodude> Ich: have you tried installing from a usb flash drive?
[19:51] <legodude> I've had a lot of bizarre problems stemming from bum cd drives/media
[19:51] <Ich> I don't have a 1 gig flash drive to work with.
[19:51] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: I have entered in connection settings in knetwork manager. Now when clicking the icoon, I see those profiles. When clicking one, the following happens: 1. The popup menu disapears. 2. The system continues to sit there doing nothing.
[19:51] <legodude> Ich: how about network install?
[19:51] <Ich> You know, that just may be the problem.    That would be great.  How do I do it?
[19:52] <legodude> ich: well I hate CDs with passion so my suggestion is the usb drive, but swapping a CD is certainly a possibility
[19:52] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: this is trying to connect to a wireless network?
[19:52] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: Wired and wireless.
[19:53] <legodude> Ich: it is a bit involved, you need to have a dhcp and tftp server
[19:53] <snarkster> brb
[19:53] <snarkster> fixed it but im sure Im going to have issues again
[19:53] <Ich> legodude: Point me to a place where I can lean how-I have an afternoon, but its a bit important.
[19:53] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: It cant see any wireless, or connect to wired with static IP.
[19:53] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: so this is when you do a "connect to other network," and select one?
[19:53] <legodude> ich: google.com
[19:54] <Ich> What should I google?
[19:54] <legodude> "network install kubuntu"
[19:54] <legodude> "network install ubuntu"
[19:54] <Ich> "Network install kubuntu"? okay, here goes...
[19:54] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: It has already saved the connnections I tried before, clicking them does nothing.
[19:55] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: I can't really think of anything that would cause that, I simply don't know knetwork manager well enough
[19:55] <legodude> have you tried manually assigning the static ip with ifconfig?
[19:55] <legodude> to at least see if that functionality is working?
[19:56] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: I got a manual wired connection after about an hour of trying yesterday.
[19:57] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: when you create a new connection, will it list the available wireless networks?
[19:58] <CoJaBo-Eee> None are listed.
[19:58] <legodude> ugh
[19:58] <legodude> sounds like it is totally borked then
[19:59] <CoJaBo-Eee> Not even wired works, that suprises me. It was a fresh install when I  tried.
[19:59] <Ich> Nothing incredably helpful turned up early.  Is it possible to do it without haveing to store the entire installer inside my computer's memory?
[19:59] <Ich> The only machine that has a disc burner is this one.  I could put a second burner into it if needed...
[20:00] <Ich> but the problem remains that one is still limited to the one gig of memory that the machine has.
[20:00] <Ich> Any ideas?
[20:00] <legodude> Ich: no, it downloads the files and installs then
[20:00] <legodude> you are not limited by ram
[20:00] <Ich> Where would I put the files?
[20:01] <legodude> it does it automatically
[20:01] <Ich> What downloads the files?
[20:01] <Ich> What are you talking about?
[20:01] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a Linux distro that has good compatibility with wifi cards and is easy to connect to wired and wireless networks without failing silently with no explanation?
[20:01] <legodude> you are asking about needing to store files for a network install in the machines ram
[20:02] <snarkster> so kmousetool causes a problem..
[20:02] <Ich> No, I'm asking how I can make the installation go from interwebs to machine without them being stored in the interum inside memory or on a hard drive
[20:02] <Ich> because the former is limited and the latter is untrusworthy
[20:02] <Ich> Okay
[20:02] <Ich> ?
[20:03] <legodude> you have to use another machine to bootstrap it basically
[20:03] <legodude> and you store the install files there
[20:03] <legodude> or get them from online
[20:03] <legodude> and the packages are gpg signed
[20:03] <Ich> Yeah.  How would I do that?
[20:03] <Ich> I have another mathine on the lan
[20:03] <legodude> so untrustworthiness is .... moot
[20:03] <Ich_at_laptop> hi there
[20:03] <snarkster> its trying to overwrite a female.ong file
[20:03] <legodude> you have to google like I told you
[20:04] <snarkster> ong = png
[20:04] <Ich> No helpful information you can give me?
[20:04] <legodude> the solution is within the first 5links on google
[20:04] <legodude> I just looked it up myself
[20:05] <CoJaBo-Eee> legodude: Ok, I got the manual wired connection back using commands from history. Is there anything I can do that will fix knetworkmanager?
[20:05] <Ich> Which one?
[20:05] <Ich> One of the fora?
[20:05] <Guest57397> is there any equivalent to ares on kubuntu??
[20:05] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: I'm really not able to help you, sorry
[20:05] <legodude> have you checked kern.log?
[20:06] <legodude>  /var/log/kern.log when you try to connect?
[20:06] <CoJaBo-Eee> Anyone else able to help?
[20:07] <noaXess> how can i simple rip my audio cd's? i see that i can get the mp3s over audiocd:/ in dolphin.. but is there als a tool for kde4?
[20:07] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: check daemon.log for me
[20:07] <legodude> in /var/log
[20:07] <Ich_at_laptop> Just open the CD in dolphin and click & drag them out
[20:07] <legodude> it should give you an idea of what knetworkmanager is doing
[20:08] <Guest57397> noaxess: k3b does it without problem.. take a look on futher actions
[20:08] <Ich_at_laptop> Lego, man, just tell me where to go
[20:08] <noaXess> Guest57397: i used t, but it failed... sometime cause there are () in the mp3 filename.. dont know why
[20:09] <noaXess> Ich_at_laptop: i know..
[20:10] <legodude> alright, I have to leave now
[20:10] <legodude> CoJaBo-Eee: look at the file like I told you
[20:10] <Ich_at_laptop> Look, I'm sort of against a wall here.  Microsoft makes a 64 bit OS, don't they?
[20:11] <CoJaBo-Eee> There is one line there after trying the wifi
[20:11] <Ich_at_laptop> Win-something?
[20:11] <Ich_at_laptop> QDOS based?
[20:11] <Ich_at_laptop> Its expensive, but its looking great right now...
[20:13] <mn> Hey, can someone please help me with my boot splashscreen?
[20:14] <desu> mn: google for usplash customisation... first hit is what you need...
[20:14] <mn> desu: did it and now I don't have a splash screen
[20:14] <hyper_ch> hi everybody
[20:15] <desu> mn: did you add your splash theme to the alternatives?
[20:15] <mn> the output of dpkg-reconfigure kernel says "Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ..."
[20:16] <mn> desu: what do you mean?  I just have kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed and I am trying to change the splash from kubuntu to ubuntu
[20:17] <hyper_ch> mn: then you need to replace kdm with gdm
[20:18] <hyper_ch> oh, the splash... hmmm.... that's more difficult
[20:18] <desu> mn: did you update teh alternative and the initrd?
[20:18] <mn> hyper_ch: already did. it doesn't change the splash screen
[20:18] <Ich> http://suslikcentral.blogspot.com/2005/12/from-0-to-kubuntu-in-1-day.html
[20:18] <desu> splash screen does not depend on the session manager...
[20:18] <Ich> I read that
[20:18] <desu> 2005....
[20:18] <HappySmileMan> Anyone else get like a dozen annoying notifications of log files being moved whenever they start ktorrent?
[20:18] <desu> that's old :P
[20:19] <Ich> Anyone wanna translate it from Windows >> kubuntu to bad live cd >> kubuntu?
[20:19] <mn> I don't think it updated the initrd:
[20:19] <mn> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[20:19] <mn> Not updating initrd symbolic links since we are being updated/reinstalled
[20:19] <mn> Ich: what do you mean?
[20:20] <Ich> I mean the article is about how to get kubuntu into a machine via network
[20:20] <Ich> it is based on linux to windows
[20:20] <Ich> I'm on a live cd
[20:20] <Ich> its wonkey
[20:20] <Ich> I'm trying to install kubuntu on this machine
[20:20] <desu> Ich: wonkey?
[20:20] <desu> mn: it idd update teh initrd...
[20:20] <desu> *did
[20:20] <desu> *the
[20:20] <Ich> Lets just pretend that it wont work.
[20:20] <Ich> okay?
[20:21] <desu> Ich: okay...
[20:21] <Ich> I want to install kubuntu over the network
[20:21] <dan_> ich: pxe?
[20:21] <Ich> idk
[20:21] <dan_> Ich: one second
[20:21] <hyper_ch> pxe would be the way for network install
[20:21] <mn> desu: oh, my bad heh
[20:21] <Ich> Cool.  Whats a pxe
[20:21] <gab3> can someone tell me why, although the "partner" repositories are enabled in adept, i can't do say:
[20:22] <gab3> apt-cache search parallels
[20:22] <gab3> and get anything?
[20:22] <desu> mn: paste the output of `sudo grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst' at rafb.net/paste, please?
[20:22] <hyper_ch> Ich: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=pxe
[20:22] <hyper_ch> gab3: because first you need to update the new lists
[20:23] <gab3> i already did apt-get update
[20:24] <hyper_ch> gab3: there's no "parallels" in the repos
[20:24] <mn> desu: http://pastebin.com/d66f2c35d
[20:25] <qcjn> hi, since i've installed kde on ubuntu , when i close i gotto disconnect, and from there it stays in a black screen
[20:25] <desu> hmm...
[20:25] <desu> splash seems to be enabled...
[20:25] <hyper_ch> qcjn: disconnect?
[20:25] <desu> 'sec
[20:25] <desu> qcjn: ctrl+alt+bksp
[20:26] <qcjn> hyper_ch i use the red button to close, and i don't have the choice to close, so i must disconnect first
[20:26] <sd32> Is there anyway to lock down the screen edges so you cannot drag a window off tthe screen?
[20:26] <qcjn> desu will i have to restart zxwindow everytime
[20:26] <hyper_ch> qcjn: what red button to close what? and what do you disconnect?
[20:27] <qcjn> in the upperbar right
[20:27] <desu> qcjn: it should automatically restart
[20:27] <qcjn> in gnome
[20:27] <desu> ...
[20:27] <desu> gnome...?
[20:27] <hyper_ch> qcjn: maybe you missed this, this is not #ubuntu
[20:27] <desu> #ubuntu, prolly?
[20:28] <qcjn> when i start i have the choice between kde or gnome
[20:28] <gab3> also, weird question here
[20:28] <qcjn> that is since i've installed kde
[20:28] <gab3> what architecture is ubuntu on i386 optimized for?
[20:28] <gab3> in other words... 586..686..?
[20:28] <qcjn> ok, i ll go and ask in #ubuntu
[20:28] <mn> qcjn: reboot into kde if you want this channel.  for gnome ubuntu is a better chan
[20:29] <gab3> kde 4.1x is AWESOME
[20:29] <hyper_ch> anyone can test my new tool? ^^
[20:29] <gab3> my favorite desktop environment second only to Mac OS X
[20:29] <hyper_ch> gab3: 4.2 is even better
[20:29] <gab3> can't wait until it's marked stable and i can update :-)
[20:29] <mn> desu: got any idea yet?
[20:30] <hyper_ch> gab3: you can use the beta already now...
[20:30] <gab3> that reminds me...
[20:30] <gab3> ah i stay away from betas
[20:30] <hyper_ch> gab3: quite a few improvments on Kontact in 4.2
[20:30] <gab3> i need to find out what is calling nepomukservices and disable it
[20:30] <desu> mn: dunno :/ it worked right out of the box for me when i'd created my theme or used one of the ubuntus' :/
[20:32] <mn> desu: i am supposed to have the splash screen linked to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so linked to /etc/can't-remeber-the-path ?
[20:32] <axel> Hello! I have created a partition on an external HDD, formated it with ext3 and set it to "active". But now I can't wite on it. How to makei the partition writable?
[20:32] <hyper_ch> axel:
[20:32] <hyper_ch> axel: did you mount it?
[20:33] <axel> hyper_ch: yes, I did.
[20:33] <hyper_ch> axel: where to?
[20:33] <hyper_ch> axel: and are you the only one using it?
[20:33] <axel> hyper_ch: /media/iomega_ext3
[20:33] <desu> mn: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so is supposed to be linked to the splash screen and the /etc/can't-remember-the-path is supposed to be linked to
[20:33] <desu> /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so
[20:33] <hyper_ch> axel: you're the only one using it?
[20:34] <axel> hyper_ch: So far I'm the only one. (And my login-name on all my mashines is the same.
[20:34] <mn> and the command for the link is ln -sf /from/here /to/here desu?
[20:35] <mn> axel: chown it
[20:35] <desu> yeah, but i'd recommend against manually handling the lniks...
[20:35] <desu> use update-alternatives to do that...
[20:35] <hyper_ch> axel: what's the username?
[20:35] <desu> oh, and apt-get instrall startupmanager...
[20:35] <desu> that'll help you manage themes and all that...
[20:35] <desu> *install
[20:36] <axel> hyper_ch: axel
[20:36] <hyper_ch> axel: open a temrinal and run:   sudo chown -r axel:axel /media/iomega_ext3
[20:37] <gab3> still can't get anything from the partner repo...
[20:37] <gab3> $ apt-cache search parallels
[20:37] <gab3> $
[20:37] <axel> hyper_ch: Thanks a lot!
[20:37] <hyper_ch> gab3: it's not in the partner repos, that's why
[20:38] <gab3> oh.
[20:38] <biopod> i did a dist upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, kde died on the way. now only way it will work is if I wont have a xorg.conf file at all. Nvidia driver is also doing problems. any suggestions?
[20:38] <gab3> i heard it was...
[20:38] <gab3> well, to be brief
[20:38] <gab3> does parallels perform any better than virtualbox?
[20:38] <mn> desu: i got it. i wasn't typing the path in correctly :|
[20:39] <desu> mn: ah, i see... is it working now?
[20:40] <mn> desu: no, but I've figured one problem out.   Now I'm checking the links
[20:40] <hyper_ch> biopod: reinstallation would be one option
[20:40] <desu> mn: ah, i see...
[20:40] <hyper_ch> gab3: vbox 2.1 should have directx support now
[20:40] <axel> hyper_ch: -R was the recursive option. Strange. Why the command accepts only the capital letter?
[20:40] <desu> mn: g'luck
[20:40] <mn> desu: thanks.  Yeah, I think it is going to be the links
[20:40] <hyper_ch> axel: sometimes it accepts small, sometimes capital letters for recursive....
[20:40] <hyper_ch> axel: I never know for sure where is which one to be used
[20:41] <hyper_ch> some feedback would be nice:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1017475
[20:42] <axel> hyper_ch: It's OK. I'm glad that it worked.
[20:43] <axel> hyper_ch: Thanks again. CU!
[20:43] <thetacoisbest> hello
[20:43] <hyper_ch> hello thetacoisbest
[20:44] <thetacoisbest> I'd be tacosarecool but i'm too lazy to sign into that name
[20:44] <thetacoisbest> anyway
[20:44] <thetacoisbest> I don't think kde4 likes gnome too much
[20:44] <thetacoisbest> because it's been glitchy
[20:44] <hyper_ch> those are independant
[20:45] <thetacoisbest> It's not as good as it was during kde3 there were a good pair
[20:45] <thetacoisbest> should I just uninstall ubuntu
[20:45] <thetacoisbest> And keep kubuntu
[20:45] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: or try kde 4.2
[20:45] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: major improvement
[20:45] <thetacoisbest> ok but sometimes when I enable unsupported updates my kubuntu breaks
[20:46] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: it's still considered as beta but runs really fine here... I don't use "gnome" with it but several gnome apps
[20:46] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: you'd have to add new sources for kde 4.2
[20:46] <thetacoisbest> Ok
[20:46] <thetacoisbest> Worth a shot
[20:46] <thetacoisbest> Maybe I should just uninstall ubuntu first
[20:47] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: before you install it, do you have time to reinstall the whole system?
[20:47] <thetacoisbest> But I really like synaptic
[20:47] <hyper_ch> you can use synaptic in kde
[20:47] <thetacoisbest> I know
[20:47] <thetacoisbest> Which is why I have kubuntu on top of ubuntu but it's glitchy
[20:47] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: 4.2 is beta - it runs fine for me - but it's still beta
[20:47] <thetacoisbest> wasn't in 8.04
[20:48] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: you use kdm or gdm?
[20:48] <thetacoisbest> kdm
[20:48] <hyper_ch> maybe that also has an effect
[20:48] <hyper_ch> hmmm, no clue
[20:48] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: or you could uninstall gnome and see how it runs then
[20:48] <thetacoisbest> it's like when kde is booting up it's like it shows the ubuntu screen for a second
[20:48] <thetacoisbest> I think I need to uninstall ubuntu desktop
[20:48] <robin0800> thetacoisbest: if you install fire fox you will get synaptic
[20:49] <thetacoisbest> because the user switcher in gnome is being glitchy
[20:49] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: http://www.psychocats.net --> tutorials --> pure kde
[20:49] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: you will find there what packages were added and need to be removed from gnome
[20:49] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: or give 4.2 a try
[20:51] <thetacoisbest> ok
[20:51] <thetacoisbest> I'm just removing ubuntu
[20:51] <liz_> hello, I have one simple question, to 'dpkg' one must first change into the directory the application is in, correct?
[20:51] <hyper_ch> thetacoisbest: remove the packages provided on the psychocats site
[20:51] <crimsun> liz_: no, that's not necessary
[20:51] <hyper_ch> liz_: depends on what you want to do
[20:51] <thetacoisbest> the problem is gnome atleast for me
[20:52] <liz_> To install the application
[20:52] <crimsun> liz_: you can always provide the full $PATH to the deb filename(s) that you want to install
[20:52] <hyper_ch> liz_: then you need to give the path to the .deb file
[20:53] <hyper_ch> liz_: or why not just put the .deb file on the desktop and run it from there
[20:53] <SJrX> USB Installer?
[20:53] <hyper_ch> by clicking it
[20:53] <crimsun> precisely, there's gdebi-kde
[20:53] <crimsun> it takes care of the nitty gritty details, as hyper_ch suggests
[20:54] <liz_> true that lol :)  I was just wondering because I don't do many things in konsole and wanted to find out
[20:55] <liz_> also because I'm following instructions and it's using konsole.. :-/
[20:55] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[20:56] <liz_> hyper_ch: ah, thanks much :)
[21:00] <zorael> I'm compiling my own xserver-xorg to fix some KDE4 display issues (video garbage upon drawing new objects). Where can I increment the "version string" so that update managers (aptitude, apt-get, Adept, etc) don't just overwrite my custom packages with what's on the repositories?
[21:02] <zorael> I have the source and everything's ready to dpkg-buildpackage. In fact, they built wonderfully and installed likewise, but the KDE4 update manager and aptitude just want to reinstall the vanilla, repository packages.
[21:03] <zorael> So, any clues as to what file I need to edit to change the version string?
[21:03] <mn> brb rebooting
[21:03] <hyper_ch> zorael: set them to manual installation in synaptic
[21:03] <szrhawaii> my ethernet is not picking up the signal on a wired connection anyone know how to fix
[21:03] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, there is one thing , you can right click on the deb file /properties /permissions/click on exe , then in the Konsole,  sudo dpkg -i name of debfile
[21:05] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: ???
[21:05] <zorael> hyper_ch: Sure, I can tell aptitude to hold the packages too, but I'd prefer to increment the version number or add a string to it to make it permanent. That way it'll tell me when there's a proper update, too.
[21:05] <hyper_ch> zorael: you need to do that in the sources
[21:05] <zorael> hyper_ch: Yes. Where?
[21:05] <szrhawaii> the only thing when i do iwconfig that shows up is my wlan0 my wmaster0,eth0, lo, and pan0 all say  no extensions
[21:05] <hyper_ch> zorael: no clue
[21:05] <zorael> hyper_ch: :3
[21:06] <BluesKaj> NM , I didn't read the  stuff about dpkg-buildpackage
[21:06] <hyper_ch> ethernet != wifi
[21:07] <CoJaBo-Dell> Ok, after getting the wired to work it prompted me to install the drivers. After doing that, knetworkmanager shows the test network but cannot connect. What do I do?
[21:08] <hyper_ch> CoJaBo-Dell: I don't use knetworkmanager anymore but wicd
[21:08] <kerim> Hiii
[21:08] <CoJaBo-Dell> ?
[21:08] <hyper_ch> !wicd
[21:08] <kerim> How can change DNS for KDE 4.1 Network Manager?
[21:09] <nicholas> Ok
[21:09] <sparr> kerim: good luck
[21:09] <hyper_ch> kerim: not using knetworkmanager anymore :)
[21:09] <thetacoisbest> Ok
[21:09] <kerim> I am using Kubuntu
[21:09] <thetacoisbest> Now what still permission problems on some stuff under kde4
[21:10] <kerim> This program ask me Manual İp configrations
[21:10] <kerim> I entered
[21:11] <kerim> But I will change only DNS server numbers
[21:11] <kerim> I don't like use manual ip configration
[21:12] <hyper_ch> kerim: try wicd
[21:12] <kerim> what is wicd?
[21:12] <hyper_ch> kerim: http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=wicd
[21:12] <kerim> Ok thanks .....I am sory ...
[21:13] <kerim> hyper_ch very good
[21:13] <CoJaBo-Dell> Is it possible to install the compiz settings manager, and how?
[21:14] <hyper_ch> CoJaBo-Dell: it is, but I would not do it
[21:14] <kerim> yes it is not defferent
[21:14] <CoJaBo-Dell> hyper_ch: Why?
[21:15] <hyper_ch> CoJaBo-Dell: just Uf experience
[21:15] <ubuntu> so, here I am banging my head with vista. I want to install kubuntu, resized the main vista partition with the vista shrink tool, started the kubuntu installation and I get that the freed space is unusable. any ideas?
[21:16] <CoJaBo-Dell> hyper_ch: It has a lot more options than the one thats built in, I just can't figure out how to install it on this one.
[21:16] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: what's the output or what does it look like?
[21:18] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: I want an ext3 partition, but the kubuntu installer says that the freed space is unusable, so I cant create one
[21:19] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: either you provide some screenshot or terminal output or we can just go on guessing at what's going one
[21:29] <ubuntu> hyper_ch: well the screenshot would show a bunch of partitions and some unusable space... if you know how to get any details from the partitioner at installation please tell me
[21:30] <ubuntu> I am finding some people who had similar problems on the forums... lets see
[21:31] <simi> try sudo fdisk -l to get detaails
[21:31] <simi> in a terminal
[21:31] <Psycho_Sonic> I have a couple quic app questions
[21:31] <Psycho_Sonic> How do I access Guidance?
[21:31] <Psycho_Sonic> the power manager?
[21:32] <Psycho_Sonic> I have a laptop, and need an icon of my battery meter
[21:33] <Psycho_Sonic> um
[21:33] <Psycho_Sonic> anyone?
[21:33] <ubuntu> simi: uhm there the freed space doesnt even show up. I just get the ntfs partiotions of vista
[21:35] <simi> ubuntu:  is important to see the structure, is a limit number of partitions you  can create, just paste that output
[21:36] <dvdhelp> Hello
[21:36] <dvdhelp> I insert a DVD. How do I play it?
[21:36] <dvdhelp> It's original bought movie
[21:36] <hyper_ch> dvdhelp: install codecs and decryption tool first
[21:36] <dvdhelp> names?
[21:37] <hyper_ch> kubuntu-restricted-extra and libdvdcss2
[21:37] <ubuntu> simi: http://pastebin.com/m16dd0cb9 ok so the problem is too manz partitions I guess?
[21:37] <Psycho_Sonic> somone?
[21:37] <Psycho_Sonic> all i need to know is how to access Guidance?
[21:37] <dvdhelp> kubuntu-restricted-extra is just codecs/decryption tool or it's more packages?
[21:38] <dvdhelp> (I don't want more packages than required if possible)
[21:38] <hyper_ch> dvdhelp: have a look at the according description of that package
[21:38] <Mamarok> Psycho_Sonic: did you install the guidance-power package?
[21:39] <Psycho_Sonic> i have no idea
[21:39] <Mamarok> called guidance-power-manager
[21:39] <Psycho_Sonic> i looked up Guidance on adept, and it says i have it
[21:40] <Mamarok> Psycho_Sonic: then just type guidance-power-manager
[21:40] <Psycho_Sonic> lets see...
[21:40] <kurumin> e aew
[21:40] <Mamarok> Psycho_Sonic: in a terminal
[21:40] <Psycho_Sonic> ah ok
[21:40] <Psycho_Sonic> thank you
[21:40] <hyper_ch> Psycho_Sonic: add the according widget
[21:40] <hyper_ch> Psycho_Sonic: to the taskbar
[21:40] <simi> ubuntu:  i do not remember exactly, so we should research this but i think that you can have only 4 artitions , one of them can be extended and can contain 3 partitions,
[21:40] <dvdhelp> hyper_ch: there's no such package for me
[21:40] <dvdhelp> hyper_ch: I try apt-cache search kubuntu-restricted-extra
[21:40] <Psycho_Sonic> THANK YOU
[21:40] <Psycho_Sonic> there we go
[21:41] <hyper_ch> dvdhelp: then you need to enable more sources
[21:41] <Psycho_Sonic> strange that there's no gui to get to it...
[21:41] <ctw> Hi! Is there anyway to group tasks in the task bar in KDE 4? Right now every open window occupies a separate slot on my task bar and I can't figure out how to change it ...
[21:41] <simi> ubuntu:  and if the grafical tool is not working than you can research how you can use fdisk to format that free space
[21:41] <Mamarok> Psycho_Sonic: you can set the options in system settings
[21:41] <ctw> It used to work automatically in KDE 3
[21:41] <hyper_ch> ctw: if you have too many windows open it will group them
[21:41] <dvdhelp> hyper_ch: would it be possible for you to look at the description of the package and tell me the name of the one package I need, from the presumably group of packages
[21:41] <Psycho_Sonic> eh
[21:41] <Psycho_Sonic> where at?
[21:41] <ctw> hyper_ch: that doesn't work
[21:41] <hyper_ch> dvdhelp: it would be possible... but you should learn to handle yourself around
[21:42] <hyper_ch> ctw: hmmm, could be that was added in 4.2
[21:42] <Psycho_Sonic> i've always looked at system settings and couldn't find anything related to Guidance or power-management
[21:42] <ctw> hyper_ch: the slots just get smaller
[21:42] <dvdhelp> hyper_ch: I'm just trying to get a film to play for my niece
[21:42] <dvdhelp> you tell her that
[21:42] <Mamarok> Psycho_Sonic: open system settings, go to the advance tab and choose power management
[21:42] <ctw> hyper_ch: ah ... thank ... I haven't upgaraded to that yet  ... is it pretty stable?
[21:42] <ubuntu> simi: ok tnx will look into it
[21:42] <hyper_ch> ctw: between two open applications in the task bar, click with the right mouse button  and select taskbar settings
[21:43] <hyper_ch> task manager settings
[21:43] <hyper_ch> there are a few options
[21:43] <hyper_ch> ctw: I think 4.2 is wonderful
[21:43] <Psycho_Sonic> i see no power management here
[21:43] <Psycho_Sonic> let me take a pic
[21:43] <ctw> hyper_ch: the only options I see are "show tooltips" "only show tasks from teh current desktop" and "only show tasks from the current screen"
[21:43] <simi> ubuntu:  you must create a extended partition, inside that you create the other partitions you need, dwap and root, maybe you will have to delete one of that compaq partitions
[21:43] <ctw> hyper_ch: I guess I need to upgrade ...
[21:44] <simi> ubuntu:  just research a little i do not remember for shure this stuff