[12:11] <ActionParsni1> Amarilis: !nvidia you may also want to check: | Amarilis
[12:11] <ActionParsni1> bah
[12:11] <ActionParsni1> !nvidia | Amarilis
[12:11] <ActionParsni1> Amarilis: ^ may be helpful
[12:11] <Amarilis> ok. thanks guys
[12:12] <ActionParsni1> they should make a pastebin service you can cat files into and it gives you a link
[12:12] <ActionParsni1> cat /etc/X11/xorg.con > /dev/paste
[12:12] <ActionParsni1> etc
[12:15] <ActionParsni1> Amarilis: you ok with pastebin?
[12:16] <ActionParsni1> !paste | Amarilis
[12:17] <Amarilis> ok.
[12:29] <Amarilis> i've put the xorg.conf on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:10] <dresnu> hello, I have installed kubuntu hardy in greek. Is there a way to get firefox in greek too? I mean the toolbar entries and menus that are in english right now. Thank you
[13:10] <darky> Hi
[13:11] <darky> try to look for firefox's greek support on adept
[13:11] <jussio1> !gr
[13:11] <jussio1> you could also ask there ^
[13:12] <dresnu> ok thank you I'll check that channel out
[13:15] <dresnu> anyway (kubuntu-gr is a little void, i'm alone :-), I had already tried searching in apt for "firefox greek) and the only package I get is mozilla-firefox-locale-el
[13:16] <kgx0> can telnet show server response headers?
[13:22] <Tomato> Hi
[13:22] <Tomato> I want to install Kubuntu on my pc
[13:23] <Miesco> If KDE 4.1 is released (alpha), does that mean that KDE 4.0 is stable?
[13:26] <Dr_willis> Miesco,  i dont think so.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> of course kde4 is very much a work in progress. Hopefully 4.1 added some much needed missing features
[13:27] <josue> hola a todos
[13:27] <josue> soy nuevo en esto
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Nocho Bell Grande!
[13:27] <Dr_willis> !es
[13:32] <shadowbox> what more can i do to play quicktime movies. I used to be able to play trailers for upcoming movies but now I need plug-ins
[13:34] <Pici> kubuntu-restricted-extras should include the packages you need to play QT stuffs
[13:35] <dresnu> quicktime and realmedia are a pain to play...
[13:35] <dresnu> only mplayer is able to open really everything
[13:35] <Dr_willis> thats why i tend to use mplayer :)
[13:35] <dresnu> but has such an ugly integration to kde...
[13:36] <Dr_willis> Never noticed dresnu  :) 'integeration' is such a buzz word that seems to tossed about so much. and mean so little.
[13:36] <shadowbox> I cant preview QT on apples site
[13:37] <dresnu> ok, but I prefer kaffeine as a player
[13:37] <dresnu> I like its features, but it doesn't work unfortunately with the mplayer engine (never understood why though)
[13:38] <shadowbox> hey wow, did I miss the release of 8.04? oh, or is that just Ubuntu?
[13:39] <dresnu> you probably missed it..
[13:39] <Jucato> shadowbox: you missed it
[13:39] <Faust-C> lol
[13:39] <dresnu> it's out there, go grab it!
[13:39] <shadowbox> ahh, man
[13:40] <shadowbox> anyone here using it?
[13:40] <jussio1> most of us...
[13:40] <shadowbox> lol, thanks
[13:42] <Dr_willis> Been under a rock for the last month? :)
[13:42] <shadowbox> lol, more like out of town
[13:42] <shadowbox> state actually
[13:43] <falloppio> Hello there!
[13:43] <shadowbox> I'm opening up a computer store that will (fingers crossed) be the largest in ECity , NC
[13:44] <dresnu> and you will sell linux preinstalled?
[13:44] <shadowbox> and the ONLY one that will be offering Linux only line of PC's (Kubuntu)
[13:44] <shadowbox> thats the plan, yes
[13:45] <dresnu> alright! :-D
[13:45] <dresnu> good luck then!
[13:45] <shadowbox> thanks
[13:46] <shadowbox> hey what do you think of the name?     Byte Me Computers
[13:46] <shadowbox> hehe, I thought it was catchy
[13:47] <shadowbox> we will be online in a day or two and growing daily
[13:47] <Pici> !ot
[13:48] <dresnu> others have had the same idea i guess: http://bytemeusa.com/store/index.php http://www.byteme.com.au/
[13:48] <dresnu> and that's you probably: http://mybytecomputers.com/
[13:48] <shadowbox> sorry, it all stemed from offering preinstalled linux pcs
[13:48] <shadowbox> actually no
[13:48] <shadowbox> lol
[13:48] <dresnu> hehe
[13:49] <Dr_willis> walmart has the $200 pc with linux :)
[13:49] <shadowbox> yeah hard to beat
[13:49] <shadowbox> but can do a $225
[13:50] <Dr_willis> Ive not seen one in a local walmart yet. -
[13:50] <dresnu> will you offer some kind of aftermarket service?
[13:50] <shadowbox> dont think you will
[13:50] <shadowbox> yes
[13:50] <dresnu> ok, then that's somewhere you can compete
[13:51] <shadowbox> as long as WM has had those$200 pc's (and selling out regularly) they are still timid on putting them in the stores.
[13:52] <shadowbox> Kubuntu PC's will actually be in the show room for demo
[13:53] <Dr_willis> with a big ICON on the middle of the desktop leading.. here! :)
[13:53] <shadowbox> and plans are to have one machine that will be a media pc w/ 32" HDTV for support (of course)   :o)
[13:53] <shadowbox> heck yeah
[13:55] <shadowbox> I might get with you guys on how to compile a complete package on one dvd for installation
[13:56] <shadowbox> I will also be giving away Kubuntu oo.o and other popular software on CD on demand
[13:56] <shadowbox> actually have a flyer in the window now
[13:58] <shadowbox> dresnu: www.bytemecomputers.net & www.bytemecomputersonline.com & www.bytemecomputersllc.com
[13:59] <polysilicon> I am finding it very difficult to enable vertical scrolling on my laptop touchpad. Does anybody know how to do it exactly? someone told me that i should define scrollable area on touchpad, how to do that?
[13:59] <chx> I tried to google without much success. Where can I read about the svn+ssh kioslave?
[13:59] <shadowbox> polysilicon: the right side of your finger pad close to the edge
[14:00] <canen> hello
[14:00] <polysilicon> shadowbox, yes but how to define the area?
[14:01] <shadowbox> oh, it should already be defined
[14:01] <canen> anyone familiar with the issue of the "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" taking 100% of CPU on first start up?
[14:01] <canen> only seems to happen if kopete or kcheckgmail is set to startup on login
[14:03] <polysilicon> shadowbox, yes but when I try to scroll the pointer moves which means synaptics driver is not configured for vertical scrolling...
[14:03] <polysilicon> the area is not acting as scrollable
[14:03] <shadowbox> gotcha
[14:03] <shadowbox> polysilicon: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-485289.html
[14:04] <polysilicon> great! thanks
[14:04] <polysilicon> I hope it should work now
[14:04] <shadowbox> polysilicon: and here for info  http://lwn.net/Articles/255662/
[14:05] <shadowbox> your welcome
[14:05] <shadowbox> and good luck
[14:05] <hernan> good morning
[14:08] <blkhtbrigade>  I'm having trouble rebuilding a module.   I've got the module all ready to make, but when I run make it only outputs the .o and not the .ko.  modpost is showing but doesn't seem to want to convert to .ko =/   any ideas?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> check the kernel guide yet?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[14:09] <blkhtbrigade> Dr_willis: I will now =) thanks
[14:09] <Dr_willis> Id bet theres some little step you overlooked. :)
[14:09] <Dr_willis> but thats all i know on the topic. so good luck
[14:09] <blkhtbrigade> There usually is =)
[14:13] <canen> so no one familiar with the "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" 100% CPU problem?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> Not heard of it canen
[14:15] <canen> ah
[14:15] <canen> annoying problem
[14:15] <Dr_willis> Im having other annying problems.. :)
[14:15] <canen> killing the process solves it but annoying anyway
[14:15] <canen> Dr_willis: ?
[14:16] <Dr_willis> DVD/cd burning has been goofed up on this machine since the beta testing began. :(
[14:17] <canen> oh, haven't done any of that in a while. I am not even sure it still works :)
[14:18] <Dr_willis> I cen burn ONE disk/dvd/cd - and then the cd/dvd just 'vanishes' from the system. :) like some deep kernel issue is going on.
[14:24] <javier_> hello
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !hi
[14:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:25] <Edulix> hi!
[14:26] <Edulix> anyone here with latest fglrx driver? can you tell me what version of the module fglrx is shown as the output of dmesg | grep fglrx please?
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> you mean latest as in the one that comes with hardy?
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> or the latest from ATI?
[14:26]  * SlimeyPete has the former
[14:26] <Edulix> from ati
[14:26] <SlimeyPete> ah, sorry.
[14:27] <Dr_willis> Sorry Not using those either.
[14:27] <Edulix> SlimeyPete: but if you have the latest from hardy please tell me which version it is
[14:27] <Edulix> mine says:
[14:27] <Edulix> [   28.923530] [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.47.3 [Mar 29 2008] on minor 0
[14:27] <Dr_willis> Hardy finially  worked with the fglrx drivers on my laptop. :)
[14:27] <SlimeyPete> [   54.546743] [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.37.6 [May 25 2007] on minor 0
[14:27] <Edulix> that's old!
[14:27] <Edulix> lol
[14:28] <SlimeyPete> yep
[14:28] <Edulix> I want 8.47.6 :P
[14:37] <tycale_> Yep §!§
[14:37] <tycale_> Need some help
[14:37] <tycale_> I've install emacs-snapshot
[14:37] <tycale_> Then, i want emacs -> emacs-snapshot
[14:38] <tycale_> And I've make a mistake
[14:38] <tycale_> rm /usr/bin/emacs
[14:39] <tycale_> Who whas a symbolic links -> emacs -> /etc/alternatives/emacs
[14:39] <tycale_> then, I've tried update-alternatives --config emacs
[14:39] <tycale_> and choose the emacs-snapshot
[14:39] <tycale_> but it doesn't work
[14:40] <tycale_> tycale@tycale-desktop:~$ emacs
[14:40] <tycale_> bash: /usr/bin/emacs: Permission non accordée
[14:40] <Dr_willis> You could just remove emacs-snapshot, and reinstall it.
[14:40] <tycale_> emacs-snapshot works
[14:40] <tycale_> hum
[14:40] <tycale_> I've to remove emacs, no?
[14:43] <Dr_willis> No idea.
[14:43] <Dr_willis> remove/reinstall whatever you might of messed up..  and see if it works
[14:43] <Dr_willis> and quit messing about in /usr/bin :P
[14:43] <tycale_> M'kay
[14:43] <Dr_willis> I use vi :) heh .
[14:44] <tycale_> I was a vim user
[14:44] <Dr_willis> about once a month i reread some of my vi docs. and learn a new vi feature/or gain some skill in using the standard features..
[14:44] <kblin> hi folks
[14:44] <Dr_willis> I do use 'fte' a lot for some editing
[14:45] <tycale_> ok
[14:46] <tycale_> It works
[14:46] <tycale_> good
[14:46] <tycale_> With a wrong way, but it's okay :-'
[14:47] <kblin> is there an easier way to get a single proposed upgrade deb than enabling the -proposed repo via adept?
[14:47] <joseph> kubuntu rules
[14:47] <joseph> !upgrade
[14:47] <joseph> is it worth it for me to upgrade from gutsy to hardy?
[14:50] <joseph> !hardy
[14:50] <joseph> !torrents
[14:53] <stephen> salut
[14:54] <Dr_willis> saute!
[14:55]  * stephen saute même s'il ne sait pas pourquoi
[14:55] <Dr_willis> !fr
[14:55] <stephen> 'k
[14:56] <joseph> anyone upgraded from gutsy to hardy?
[14:56] <kblin> yup
[14:56] <nicolas> yep
[14:56] <kblin> worked nice
[14:56] <joseph> any issues in upgrading?
[14:56] <joseph> like, did you have any problems?
[14:57] <kblin> it removed a couple of packages I was using, especially -dev packages
[14:57] <kblin> nothing an aptitude install couldn't fix
[14:57] <nicolas> I made it from alternate dvd and got no problem once I found the way to laucnh the upgrade
[14:57] <joseph> do you notice any better functionality?
[14:57] <joseph> any performance difference?
[14:58] <Dr_willis> I perfer to Update Not upgrade. :)
[14:58] <joseph> Dr_willis: can you elaborate on that?
[14:58] <Dr_willis> From what i gather in the irc rooms. Many upgraders have had issues with.. wireless, video, sound, and..  a few other bits
[14:58] <joseph> ok
[14:58] <nicolas> some problem here with Wifi right
[14:58] <Dr_willis> I mean i tend to do Clean reinstalls.. :) heh.
[14:58] <kblin> joseph: dunno, I mostly upgraded to get KVM support and virt-manager working
[14:59] <joseph> Dr_willis: yeah, see that's why i'm dragging my feet on upgrading.  if it ain't broke, why fix it?
[14:59] <joseph> kblin: virt-manager?
[14:59] <nicolas> but these issues are usual issues coming with the few days after upgrade no?
[14:59] <joseph> !virt-manager
[14:59] <kblin> joseph: a python GUI for managing qemu and Xen virtual machines
[14:59] <joseph> ah
[15:00] <joseph> why not use VirtualBox?
[15:01] <pippoZ> hi all
[15:01] <kblin> joseph: because networking in virtualbox sucks
[15:01] <nicolas> hi
[15:01] <joseph> kblin: ok, that's a good reason.  and vm-manager doesn't work in gutsy?
[15:02] <kblin> joseph: it's not even installable, some of the deps don't exist
[15:02] <joseph> kblin: k
[15:02] <kblin> so even building it manually is a bit of a pain
[15:02] <joseph> kblin: what platform do you usually launch from vm-manager? windows?
[15:03] <kblin> yeah. and a couple of linux test boxes
[15:03] <potty> is kde more lighta den ubuntu?
[15:04] <joseph> potty: it's a matter of personal preference, actually.
[15:05] <Dr_willis> potty,  about the same - if you want LIGHT - go with xfce, or some minimal window manager.
[15:05] <potty> I was juz wondering as gnome gets more heavy every release
[15:07] <Dr_willis> and its Still missing   soooo many features...
[15:07] <Dr_willis> make ya wonder where its growing at.
[15:07] <kblin> well, I haven't tried KDE 4 yet, but I'd be surprised if that got any lighter
[15:07] <Dr_willis> kde4 is a total new animal. :) so its hard to tell.
[15:08] <Dr_willis> Lightness of a desktop is not that huge a demand these days.. theres plenty of alternatives if you want light i guess.
[15:08] <potty> it is for vista =)
[15:09] <kblin> xubuntu is really nice for that. I run it in a couple of VMs where I want to have a GUI
[15:09] <potty> vista drained 600MB just idleing
[15:14] <polysilicon> I cannot find ksynaptics package. Where is it?
[15:14] <polysilicon> sudo apt-cache search ksynaptics > no result
[15:17] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[15:19] <kblin> polysilicon: there's a ksynaptic package?
[15:19] <kblin> polysilicon: what's wrong with adept?
[15:20] <Conficio> Is there any kdm expert around? I have Kubuntu 7.04/kde 3.5.8 and want to enable xdmcp, however, it does not work and the most likely culprit is kdm listening on udp6 instead of udp. How can I change that?
[15:23] <potty> I have an dapper install want to upgrade to fiesty will i have to upgrade to edgy then fiesty?
[15:24] <Dr_willis> LTS upgrades are supported
[15:24] <kkathman> potty  you might think about backing up critical things and do a fresh install of hardy
[15:31] <polysilicon> kblin, I couldn't find any. I got a deb file from gutsy packages
[15:31] <polysilicon> its working
[15:44] <navetz> can someone please help me, knetwork manager is not detecting any devices
[15:44] <navetz> but it does at home
[15:49] <LeeJunFan> navetz: have you rebooted?
[15:49] <polysilicon> I cannot get ksynaptics to control my touchpad, changes do not take effect. I have added Option SHMConfig "on" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:49] <lascar> what command displays Linux kernel info?
[15:49] <Quetzlcoatl> uname -a
[15:49] <LeeJunFan> navetz: and if you're plugged in it probably won't detect if the cable isn't working right.
[15:49] <lascar> quetzlcoatl: ty
[15:51] <ramribeiro_> i installed kubuntu on toshiba Qosmio with great success, where can i report it?
[15:53] <navetz> LeeJunFan: hey, yes I have rebooted
[15:54] <navetz> LeeJunFan: also the cable is being used right now on a networking printer and it is working
[15:54] <SeicherlBoB> I have a problem with a problem with an application. After starting the app. it reduces itself down to the controllbar, but there is no icon, only a blank space. So i can't click it to "open" the application. Is there a way to access items from the controllbar without clicking them?
[15:55] <BonesolTeraDyne> Everyone, there's been a change in the UbuntuOpenWeek lineup. Ask Mark will be starting in about 5 minutes. Join #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat if you want to join.
[15:56] <BonesolTeraDyne> This is being posted here by request of jcastro
[15:57] <ramribeiro_> i have one Toshiba qosmio, and i didn't get extra keyboard ...some examples are Fn+F5...and i have tried Keytouch tools...
[15:58] <ramribeiro_> someone can help me?
[16:08] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[16:09] <leftbas> hi
[16:09] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 ?
[16:09] <MetaMorfoziS> i get error "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" from a program
[16:09] <leftbas> add it from adept
[16:09] <hydrogen> no.
[16:09] <MetaMorfoziS> but no package that contains this file
[16:09] <leftbas> just launch it, and type the library name in the filter
[16:09] <hydrogen> You need to recompile the program
[16:09] <hydrogen> against a modern version of gcc
[16:10] <hydrogen> I assume you updated from an older version of kubuntu?
[16:10] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[16:10] <leftbas> right click and request an install
[16:10] <MetaMorfoziS> and any other way
[16:10] <hydrogen> or downloaded the binary off the internet?
[16:10] <hydrogen> leftbas: No. No. No.
[16:10] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[16:10] <leftbas> hydrogen: why not? he didn't say he already had a version of it
[16:10] <hydrogen> then you need to find a binary designed to work for kubuntu hardy
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> he's definitely already got a version
[16:11] <leftbas> oh...sorry then
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> it's critical to the operation of much of k/ubuntu
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> but you weren't to know :)
[16:11] <hydrogen> SlimeyPete: a version _incompatible_ with the version the program was compiled against
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> hydrogen: yes
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> indeed.
[16:11] <SlimeyPete> I was answering leftbas :)
[16:11] <hydrogen> and he has a version of libstdc++, not a version of libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[16:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't recompile it and i can't get other version
[16:12] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need that libstdc something
[16:12] <hydrogen> then you can't use that program
[16:12] <MetaMorfoziS> if it's possible
[16:12] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[16:13] <leftbas> what are you trying to run that doesn't like the version you already have?
[16:15] <combo> hi, i have problem with internet. how to confgure network on kub-8.10 ? in windows it's simple cuz automatically but in linux, doesn't :/
[16:16] <leftbas> combo: how are you connecting? ethernet or wifi?
[16:16] <combo> leftbas: ethernet
[16:16] <combo> i have only a cable and that's all
[16:16] <leftbas> combo: was it connected when you installed 8.04?
[16:16] <combo> leftbas: after winXP installation internet works
[16:16] <leftbas> combo: is it a dual boot?
[16:17] <[nix]> you guys know what file manager is shown in this shot? http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/113/b/f/Sehenn_SShot_by_VisionsofArt.png
[16:17] <combo> leftbas: never tried that on 8.04.
[16:18] <combo> leftbas: when choosing DHCP it says "uknown host"
[16:18] <leftbas> combo: so you only have kubuntu on the machine you're talking about?
[16:19] <combo> leftbas: yes - this is my friend's notebook in his house. i'm trying to connect that notebook with kub-8.10
[16:19] <leftbas> combo: are you connecting to a router, or straight to the modem?
[16:19] <combo> leftbas: i have kub 8.04 in my house (i have router) and evertyhing works fine. but can't configure his internet
[16:20] <combo> cable comes from a nest
[16:20] <combo> leftbas: no modem or router just a provider nest :]
[16:20] <leftbas> a nest? community service, like in an apartment building?
[16:22] <combo> leftbas: yeah :)
[16:22] <combo> leftbas: the place where are comming from cables from phone etc.:)
[16:22] <combo> leftbas: i mean socket :P
[16:23] <leftbas> combo: then i recommend talking to whomever supports that LAN
[16:23] <leftbas> combo: there's some piece of info you might not have gotten
[16:23] <leftbas> combo: like the dns servers or something
[16:24] <combo> leftbas: ok then :)
[16:24] <combo> leftbas: thanks for help :)
[16:24] <combo> leftbas: will contact with that Internet provider :)
[16:24] <leftbas> no problem
[16:24] <combo> see ya
[16:25] <leftbas> [nix]: sorry, never seen that desktop style before
[16:27] <Riddell> ask mark in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:36] <hume> hi... in the new KDE4 - is there a way to create a subpanel, or extra panel, where I can have program icons (like in KDE 3.5)?
[16:48] <bipolar> is anyone else having a problem with strigidaemon crashing when indexing?
[16:48] <bipolar> strigidaemon: /build/buildd/strigi-0.5.7/src/streams/subinputstream.cpp:30: Strigi::SubInputStream::SubInputStream(Strigi::InputStream*, int64_t): Assertion `length >= -1' failed.
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> hume: no, not until 4.1
[16:52] <Shakaan> xyzzy?
[16:52] <Pennycook> hume: You can add program icons to the taskbar, if that's useful.
[16:53] <Shakaan> hello world
[16:53] <Shakaan> i use IRC for the first time
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> it is dark
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> hello Shakaan
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> you are likely to be eaten by a grue
[16:53] <SlimeyPete> your sword is glowing faintly
[16:53] <Shakaan> hello nosrednaekim
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> lol @ SlimeyPete
[16:58] <Shakaan> is there some French here?
[16:58] <SlimeyPete> !french
[17:00] <Shakaan> ok ubottu
[17:05] <jose> fdfd
[17:06] <jose> Que es esto
[17:06] <jose> ????
[17:06] <stdin> !es
[17:12] <Kr|ptiX> can someone help  me fix my sound i just recently updated to 8.04 an now my  sound doesnt work
[17:17] <Kr|ptiX> right now my soundcard is intel how do i switch it to oss or alsa
[17:20] <ramribeiro> i have installed kubuntu 7.10 on my toshiba Qosmio, but the extra keysboard didnt works....example  Fn+F5... somebody help-me?
[17:20] <mohi> hi :)
[17:22] <moonnight> try change the language of the keyboard
[17:22] <mohi> I upgraded to hardy and now when I type sudo in the begining of the command, it says: sudo: unable to resolve host ...
[17:23] <ramribeiro> moonnight, my keyboard is english US. my kde is too.
[17:23] <mohi> ramribeiro: this promlem is know solved for me in hardy! just upgrade
[17:23] <coggz> can anyone assist me with rsync
[17:24] <mohi> problem*
[17:24] <ramribeiro> mohi: ok, i'll try.very good. and about Debian, it's works?
[17:24] <mohi> I haven't tried yet
[17:25] <monkeybritches> mohi: What command are you trying to run with sudo?
[17:26] <mohi> monkeybritches: sudo apt-cdrom add, everything
[17:27] <doctorwhite> where can i find the release notes for hardy 4 kubuntu 8.0.4?
[17:28] <monkeybritches> mohi: Did you try it without the ', everything'?
[17:28] <mohi> monkeybritches: I meant every command ;)
[17:28] <coggz> anyone able to help me set up rsync?
[17:28] <monkeybritches> !hardy | doctorwhite
[17:28] <monkeybritches> There should be a link thereabouts
[17:29] <mohi> !hostname
[17:29] <doctorwhite> i dont see the release notes.  i just want to see the what pkgs are included.
[17:30] <monkeybritches> mohi: And you have apt-cdrom installed? I can see how if you didn't it would try to get it remotely and might give you that message, but I would think it should be there by default.
[17:30] <mohi> what does "should the hosts and hostname be equal" mean?
[17:31] <mohi> monkeybritches: yes. I can run them without sudo
[17:31] <monkeybritches> There needs to be an entry in hosts for whatever your hostname is
[17:32] <monkeybritches> It appears they have forgotten to hadd 8.04 release notes...
[17:33] <mohi> :( yes..
[17:33] <monkeybritches> I want my monkey back ;)
[17:34] <doctorwhite> does the kubuntu 8.0.4 dvd version include mysql, php etc?
[17:34] <mohi> :D
[17:34] <mohi> yes! me2!
[17:34] <mohi> monkeybritches: ^
[17:35] <coggz> any ideas with rsync????
[17:35] <monkeybritches> I would assume so, given the size it should be complete.
[17:36] <bazhang> coggz: what is your issue with rsync?
[17:37] <coggz> ok, i want to set up a backup on a pc, and have 2 laptos sync all documents with the server, and so there will be identical documents on Laptop 1+2, and a backup on PC
[17:39] <coggz> do you understand that?
[17:39] <bazhang> this is gutsy or hardy coggz
[17:40] <coggz> laptops are gutsy and desktop is hardy
[17:41] <Ardarandir_> ina: huhu
[17:41] <Ardarandir_> Ich bins ;)
[17:41] <ina> ahh
[17:44] <bazhang> coggz: here are two links worth a look: one is general (includes rsync) while the other deals with sbackup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem http://www.debianadmin.com/backup-and-restore-your-ubuntu-system-using-sbackup.html
[17:45] <adrien> bonjour
[17:45] <dam> I'm having problems with firefox con someone help ?
[17:47] <dam> bonjour
[17:47] <ramribeiro> i have one problem with my intel gm965/x3100 when runs opengl...! the screen shutdown, but the notebook don't freeze.
[17:48] <mohi> monkeybritches: I'm in recovery mode! how may I set the correct host name?
[17:48] <ramribeiro> there are some problem with opengl on intel graphics?
[17:55] <Datz> How long does Kubuntu usually take to start up?
[17:55] <panda> ??
[17:56] <Datz> because mine is stuck at "Running local boot scripts 9/etc/rc.local)
[17:56] <Datz> 9 = (
[17:56] <kathleen> hello
[17:57] <Datz> I think last time it was improperly shut down
[17:57] <ramribeiro> hathleen: ola
[17:57] <kathleen> I hope some of you can help me with my wlan problem
[17:58] <ramribeiro> kathleen: what's happen with our wlan?
[17:58] <kathleen> it stoped working after upgrading from Kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04
[17:58] <kathleen> everithing seems to be fine
[17:58] <kathleen> at least as far as I can tell
[17:59] <ramribeiro> kathleen: which is your card?
[17:59] <kathleen> I use a linksys WPC54G ver. 3
[18:00] <panda> hola
[18:00] <panda> algien que hable español
[18:00] <jeffm_> Hi, all.
[18:00] <Datz> hello
[18:00] <Datz> Does anyone think they could help me with my problem?
[18:01] <ramribeiro> kathleen: looks in kubuntu site for suport this card.
[18:01] <kathleen> ramribeiro: it did work before and Kubuntu did offer new driver
[18:01] <jeffm_> I've just upgraded my system to 8.04, the KDE 3 version.  When i enable the desktop effects from the K menu, however, I see no change in effects or window behavior at all.  Are these effects only for KDE 4 (and if so, why are they in my menu), or am I missing something else entirely?
[18:02] <kathleen> butnow only the LAN connection is working
[18:02] <haygus> bonjour, comment on peut regarder les espace libre de son disque dur ?
[18:02] <haygus> je vien de reinstaller kubuntu et il me sort disque plein
[18:02] <jeffm_> It should be noted that I'm running without 3-D acceleration if that makes a difference.
[18:03] <kathleen> ramribeiro: all the setting seems to fine and the card is marked as active
[18:03] <Datz> Kubuntu  is stuck loading at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) under starting K Display Manager: kdm
[18:03] <kathleen> ramribeiro: IPsettings, Router, WEB key all seems to ebe fine
[18:03] <ramribeiro> kathleen, i never got the new release of OS, always i wait for the next release...like kubuntu 7.04, i wait for the 7.10
[18:04] <kathleen> ramribeiro: but 7.10 is already out for some time now
[18:05] <kathleen> and 8.04 is the new final release
[18:05] <ramribeiro> kathleen, u don't see the wirelles conects or don't achieve the conect?
[18:05] <monkeybritches> Datz: Try booting up in recovery mode
[18:06] <monkeybritches> and choose the option to fix the X-terminal
[18:06] <ramribeiro> kathleen, i now it, boot i think that have many boog. let me search for your card on google...just a minute
[18:06] <kathleen> ramribeiro: I don't understand. What conects
[18:08] <ramribeiro> kathleen,
[18:08] <ramribeiro> kathleen, look it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[18:09] <kathleen> ramribeiro:thanks give me a minute
[18:09] <ramribeiro> kathleen, so sorry...i now somethings about linux, but my english is poor
[18:10] <ramribeiro> kathleen, now* know
[18:11] <ramribeiro> kathleen, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186538
[18:11] <sloth> will wlan work for wireless or do I need to get my comp to use eth1?
[18:12] <bleaked> so for years i've been using the kicker media applet to eject my external hard drives, ipod, camera, etc.. with no trouble.. however, ever since i installed hardy, i cannot seem to eject (safely remove) *anything* without numerous eject or fstab errors.  this is on a clean hardy install.
[18:20]  * CubaCola is away: Parti pour l'instant.
[18:20] <sloth> bleaked have you tried right clicking the external drives and using the unmount option? that has been working for me
[18:21] <tgreer> hi
[18:23] <wesley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9243/ i get fatal error in planeshift does someone know why ?
[18:23] <Datz> monkeybritches, thanks I'll try recover mode
[18:25] <Datz> monkeybritches, how do I choose recovery mode?
[18:25] <sloth> datz when grub first starts press esc then scroll down to recovery mode and press enter
[18:25] <CoCaInE> Datz: when grub is working while runnin pc u press Esc, and u can choose there
[18:26] <sylla> hi
[18:27] <sloth> how do i change the grub splash image?
[18:27] <Malic> hi! does anyone know if envyng supports the new ati driver (8.4) ?
[18:27] <sloth> malic it works for me :)
[18:28] <Odd-rationale> !usplash
[18:29] <Malic> sloth: any improvements compared with 8.3?
[18:29] <sloth> ty
[18:29] <Datz> Ok, thx guys I will try it
[18:30] <sloth> malic: only thing better ive noticed is that with compiz turned on running full effects, my graphics dont crash anymore
[18:30] <Malic> sloth: ok thx.. i will try the new one
[18:36] <mattik> Hello, How could I take a part KUbuntu meeting. Do I need jabber or irc-client or something else?
[18:37] <monkeybritches> Do you mean a net-meeting?
[18:37] <mattik> yes
[18:40] <Arkard> Hi people
[18:40] <bleaked> sloth: sorry for the late response, was distracted.. well isn't it necessary to 'safely remove' external devices to maintain data integrity?  i really don't know much about the mounting process versus the eject process, but if the option exists, it seems necessary.. that said, mounting/unmounting works just fine, it's the 'safely remove' / eject feature that causes the errors.
[18:40] <monkeybritches> You could use a VNC connection
[18:40] <Arkard> i have a problem with my Microphone, no one can hear me
[18:40] <monkeybritches> I'm still looking to see what the equivalent for Netmeeting would be...
[18:40] <monkeybritches> Anyone, feel free to chime in if you know the answer :)
[18:41] <monkeybritches> Sorry Arkard, you'll have to speak up. I can't hear you. ;)
[18:41] <Arkard> XD
[18:41] <Arkard> in my alsa the MIC BOOST is Disabled
[18:42] <monkeybritches> That could be a problem right there.
[18:42] <aLeSD> hi all
[18:42] <TimS> Anyone here have a core 2 proccessor and nVidia 7300 series graphics card?
[18:42] <Arkard> but how can i enable it?
[18:42] <aLeSD> I just installed kubuntu with the kde4 environment
[18:43] <aLeSD> It's my first time in kde
[18:43] <aLeSD> and I have some troubles
[18:43] <Faust-C> aLeSD, wtg kde4 isnt really ready
[18:43] <aLeSD> how can I active compiz ?
[18:43] <aLeSD> :D
[18:43] <aLeSD> well it's nice
[18:43] <Arkard> aLeSD: need to install compiz kde
[18:43] <aLeSD> I will move to kde only for the qt4
[18:44] <monkeybritches> mattik: Check out this URL - http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[18:44] <monkeybritches> There are some alternatives to Netmeeting. I haven't tried any of them but they link to each application.
[18:44] <aLeSD> Arkardok
[18:45] <monkeybritches> aLeSD: You have Compiz installed, right?
[18:45] <aLeSD> yes
[18:45] <monkeybritches> Oops, didn't see that :)
[18:45] <aLeSD> the konsole works very strange
[18:45] <monkeybritches> Under System > Desktop Effects you can select a setting
[18:45] <Arkard> monkeybritches, what about my microphone?
[18:45] <aLeSD> I mean it's buggy
[18:45] <monkeybritches> Arkard: Did you enable mic boost?
[18:45] <Arkard> how can i activate the mic boost?
[18:46] <monkeybritches> I should have asked a more pointed question. :)
[18:46] <monkeybritches> I thought it was a checkbox
[18:46] <kblin> it's in kmix
[18:46] <kblin> in the "switches" tab
[18:46] <Arkard> i cannot monkeybritches, i cannot turn up the volume of the MIC BOOST
[18:47] <monkeybritches> Hit Alt-F2 and type 'kmix'
[18:47] <aLeSD> and now how can I active compiz ?
[18:47] <aLeSD> wow kde is faster than gnome
[18:47] <aLeSD> a lot faster
[18:47] <Arkard> ready
[18:47] <monkeybritches> aLeSD: Did you go to System > Desktop Effects ?
[18:47] <Arkard> aLeSD: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[18:47] <monkeybritches> IMO, KDE4 isn't ready yet, and I'm going to stick with 3.5
[18:48] <aLeSD> monkeybritches  I haven't that entry in my menu
[18:48] <mattik> monkeybritches: Thank you :) I just liked to know and now I know can use irssi
[18:48] <aLeSD> Arkard I'd like something that will active it permanently
[18:48] <monkeybritches> Glad to be of help. :)
[18:49] <Arkard> do that once and is enabled all the time
[18:49] <aLeSD> irssi rules
[18:49] <Datz> monkeybritches, thanks it worked
[18:50] <monkeybritches> Great to hear it. :)
[18:50] <aLeSD> :º
[18:53] <Arkard> Totally work with Kmix, Thanks to all
[18:53] <DexterF> hi
[18:54] <DexterF> anyone know of the 8.04 live cd will try to auto-assemble software raids from 0xFD partitions?
[18:55] <LimCore> brand new system, brand new errors
[18:55] <LimCore> is it just me, or is Xgl crashing like crazy
[18:55] <LimCore> like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/225338
[18:57] <aLeSD> so kde4 has already 3d effects ?
[18:58] <LimCore> aLeSD: it worked a bit with kde, but then stoped working
[18:58] <LimCore> Im using the default kde, 3
[18:58] <Datz> Hi, with Ubuntu I can open a directory with command "nautilus (some dir)"  what can I use for Kubuntu?
[18:59] <trappist> Datz: try file:///path/to/dir
[18:59] <Datz> ok, I'l try thatnks
[18:59] <trappist> Datz: I just tried, it works :)
[19:01] <cheese_> I am wondering if Kubuntu8.04 fixed edition has been released.
[19:01] <Datz>  trappist:, that is to open a fie, but not a directory?
[19:01] <Datz> or I just specify a file in the dir?
[19:02] <aLeSD> mmm +
[19:03] <aLeSD> I noticed a strange stuff : I installed some programs but I haven't the entries in the menu ?
[19:03] <Datz>  trappist, I am having no luck
[19:03] <combo> can someone give me the name of docker so i can have icons dock same way like in MacOSX ? (i use Kub-7.10)
[19:03] <aLeSD> I mean programs like firefox amarok
[19:03] <aLeSD> do u know why ?
[19:03] <Datz>  trappist, something like this : "file:///home/datz/Music"  does not work for me
[19:03] <trappist> Datz: that's to open a directory
[19:04] <combo> does anybody know where KDE4 will be available? :))
[19:04] <trappist> Datz: are you doing this on the command line, or in the address bar, or what?
[19:04] <combo> **when
[19:04] <cheese_> To combo:maybe avant winddow navigator
[19:04] <Datz> command line
[19:04] <trappist> combo: kde4 is available
[19:04] <combo> cheese_: thx :)
[19:04] <Datz>  trappist, I see
[19:04] <trappist> Datz: I just did konqueror file:///home/trappist/Documents and it worked fine
[19:04] <combo> trappist: upss... it looks i still use KDE 3.5.8 in kub-7.10 :/
[19:05] <trappist> combo: that's the default.  there's a kubuntu "remix" I think they called it that ships with kde4, and I think you can install the packages from the kubuntu.org repository
[19:06] <combo> trappist: is this worth of that? i mean is KDE4 much better than KDE 3.x.x ? :D
[19:06] <Datz>  trappist, I want to open a directory, but not in the browser, so I can change some things
[19:06] <Datz> thanks, though
[19:07] <LimCore> why KUbuntu shiped XGL that have like 20 crash reports? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bugs
[19:07] <trappist> combo: last time I tried it (early beta) I couldn't deal with it.  I'm sure it's much better now - there are a lot of inherent improvements, now it's just a matter of filling in functionality holes
[19:07] <LimCore> can I upgrade to other version of xgl?
[19:07] <trappist> Datz: not in the browser?  just cd to it... or am I still misunderstanding you
[19:07] <combo> trappist: can i install KDE4 with Adept Manager? :)
[19:07] <Datz>  trappist, ah, ok I will cd it then
[19:08] <trappist> combo: I would imagine if you have the appropriate repositories enabled, yes
[19:08] <lupinderwolf> what's about?
[19:09] <combo> trappist: ok then, thanks for info :)
[19:09] <trappist> LimCore: almost all packages have bugs.  some of them have lots and lots of bugs.  for most of us, they work just fine though.
[19:10] <Datz> trappist, basically I want to open a hidden dir to have a  folder view
[19:10] <LimCore> trappist: xgl crashes each few hours, for me and around 20 people that bothered to send bug report.
[19:10] <Datz> with Ubuntu I could give the command eg "nautilus .wine" and it would open in folder view
[19:10] <trappist> Datz: not sure I understand.
[19:10] <trappist> LimCore: nvidia drivers?
[19:11] <LimCore> trappist: yes
[19:11] <trappist> yeah I've heard about that one
[19:12] <LimCore> this reminds me of a ##C++'s joke
[19:12] <Datz> trappist,  in order to work in a directoy other than in command line
[19:12]  * LimCore <nolyc> It compiles?! SHIP IT!!
[19:12] <LimCore> ok I disabled XGL. But, can I install easly other verstion to try to compare?
[19:12] <Datz> trappist, guess I will try "sudo apt-get install nautilus"  :)
[19:13] <Greenery> Datz: use konqueror
[19:14] <Datz>  Greenery, ah that may be what I am looking for
[19:14] <Datz> whoohoo, it is
[19:14] <Datz> thanks guys
[19:15] <Datz> I figured it would be something like that
[19:15] <trappist> Datz: I said konqueror!
[19:15] <Datz> oops, must have missed it...sorry
[19:15] <trappist> :)
[19:15] <Datz> I had already tried "knautilus"  lol
[19:15] <smeril> my sound dossent work and i cant acces the volume control
[19:16] <chisiyuan> smeril:i have the same problem days ago
[19:17] <smeril> how did you fix it?
[19:17] <Greenery> what kind of sound issue? I have sound issue at the moment also
[19:17] <Greenery> my sound is playing intermittently, it comes and go
[19:18] <chisiyuan> smeril:well.....i just reinstall the whole system....sorry , i am a rookie
[19:19] <smeril> ok but thanks
[19:19] <smeril> anybody else who have a clue?
[19:20] <chisiyuan> it is said alsa should be update
[19:20] <trappist> !sound
[19:21] <monkeybritches> Also run Kmix to see if the channels are enabled
[19:23] <Muzer_real> Hi, I'm fine with KDE4 except for one thing: The version of Ark is crap. What would be the best way to make a) KDE4 Dolphin use KDE3 Ark and b) KDE3 Ark use KDE4 Dolphin. Currently the KDE4 Dolphin uses the KDE4 Ark and KDE3 Ark uses KDE3 Dolphin. Please note I already have the KDE3 Ark installed and it shows up in the K menu. I have a pretty good idea how to get KDE4 Dolphin to use KDE3 Ark, but not KDE3 Ark using KDE4 Dolphin.
[19:23] <Muzer_real> Oh yeah, and also, when in Dolphin, after opening a file successfully and after closing it, it always says (for example) "KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate'."
[19:25] <Muzer_real> Hello?
[19:25] <Muzer_real> Anyone therE>
[19:25] <chisiyuan> Yeah
[19:25] <Muzer_real> Did you see my big questions?
[19:26] <chisiyuan> Ya,i see it, but withou kde4 experience, i don't know what to do with it.
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: Did you have a question, or are you merely pointing out the obvious fact that KDE4 is a test platform for applications being ported?
[19:26] <vbhide> could anyone please show e how to use telnet? i'm regularly getting the error "could not resolve..."
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> vbhide: Dead simple, telnet <host>.
 Hi, I'm fine with KDE4 except for one thing: The version of Ark is crap. What would be the best way to make a) KDE4 Dolphin use KDE3 Ark and b) KDE3 Ark use KDE4 Dolphin. Currently the KDE4 Dolphin uses the KDE4 Ark and KDE3 Ark uses KDE3 Dolphin. Please note I already have the KDE3 Ark installed and it shows up in the K menu. I have a pretty good idea how to get KDE4 Dolphin to use KDE3 Ark, but not KDE3 Ark using KDE4 Dolph
[19:26] <vbhide> i tried atleast 10 hosts
[19:27] <Muzer_real> That one
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> vbhide: If you can't resolve the host, that's a different problem.  Your DNS isn't working or you have a bad hostname.
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat
[19:27] <vbhide> thanks jhutchins
[19:27] <Muzer_real> I was telling you which was my question that I meant
[19:27] <vbhide> but then how can i acess the net?
[19:27] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: That's not a question, it's just a complaint.
[19:28] <chisiyuan> yeah,perhaps kde4 is not stable enough now
[19:29] <Aison> hello, im using firefox and thunderbird under kubuntu. When I klick on a link inside an email, no browser opens. I would like that firefox opens the URL
[19:29] <jhutchins_wk> chisiyuan: Well, this isn't a stability issue - instability means it sometimes works one way, sometimes another.  This is a matter of most applications haven't been ported to qt4 yet.
[19:30] <Aison> what's wrong here?
[19:31] <jhutchins_wk> Aison: You probably need to either set the browser in Thunderbird's preferences, or set it in the KDE Components sections of kdesu kcontrol.
[19:31] <chisiyuan> jhutchns_wk:yeah,i will use my kde3.5.8 until kde4 is satisfatory
[19:31] <Muzer_real> Did anyone give an answer? My wifi keeps needing resetting for some stupid reason
[19:31] <stdin> jhutchins_wk: kdesu would set it for root
[19:31] <Muzer_real> I need to go with a better WiFi client
[19:31] <stdin> Aison: System Settings -> Default Applications
[19:31] <Aison> thx
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: You didn't ask a question.
[19:32] <Muzer_real> Notice the second (or third?) sentance, What would be the best way to...
[19:32] <Muzer_real> That sounds like a question to me.
[19:33] <smeril> how can i reinstall my soundcard?
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: I don't see any question in your posts that have reached here, but since you apparantly missed it:  KDE4 is far from finished yet.  Don't expect it to be a full working environment.
[19:34] <Muzer_real> What would be the best way to make a) KDE4 Dolphin use KDE3 Ark and b) KDE3 Ark use KDE4 Dolphin.
[19:34] <Muzer_real> That is my question
[19:34] <jhutchins_wk> smeril: Remove the screws holding the cover on the case...
[19:34] <Muzer_real> I extracted it from the big post
[19:34] <DarkriftX> the guy IS asking a question
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: If it's possible you're going to have to ask in #kde or somewhere.  As far as we know, KDE4 just doesn't completely work so far.
[19:35] <DarkriftX> he knows it doesnt work and he is looking for a workaround
[19:35] <Muzer_real> I assume that's on the same server?
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> DarkriftX: How 'bout that.  So he is.
[19:35] <DarkriftX> yes Muzer_real
[19:35] <DarkriftX> also i think there is a #kde4 you might try
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer_real: I would assume it would be a mime type file association.
[19:36] <DarkriftX> mime sounds liek it owuld fix the first problem
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> Ah, yes, if there's a kde4 definitely take it there, you'll only annoy people in #kde.
[19:36] <Muzer> OK
[19:36] <DarkriftX> but the second sounds harder
[19:36] <Muzer> I'll check
[19:36] <DarkriftX> and beyond my scope :S
[19:36] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer: One way to set mime associations is to right-click a local file, choose Open With, and check the box to remember the choice.
[19:36] <Muzer> #kde4 is #kde
[19:36] <Muzer> it's a symlink
[19:36] <DarkriftX> ahhh
[19:36] <smeril> i have a laptop
[19:37] <Odd-rationale> there is #kubuntu-kde4 (see the topic)
[19:37] <Muzer> jhutchins_wk: You'd have to do that for every archive type
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> smeril: Lots more screws and parts to remove then.
[19:37] <Muzer> Could I just remove The KDE4 Ark and replace it with a symlink to the KDE3 one
[19:37] <smeril> do you know a more simple solution?
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer: Well, there might be a component setting.
[19:37] <Muzer> I'll join #kubunt-kde4u
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> Muzer: No, a symlink would be active in any environment, and we don't know if ark from kde3 woudl work.  (I suppose you could try launching it manually to see...)
[19:38] <smeril> i dont hear any sound and i cant acces the volume control or any other sound related programs
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> smeril: Does alsamixer run in the console?
[19:38] <smeril> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[19:39] <smeril> everything worked fine last time i used the computer
[19:40] <Muzer> kde3 ark from kde4 does work, but it loads the kde3 dolphin when open file after extract is ticked
[19:41] <chisiyuan> smeril: It sounds like you are repeating my story. Have backup your system?
[19:41] <smeril> no but i can take what i need on a usb stick
[19:43] <Mimi> *sigh* ive been looking for days. Does anyone have a guide to record audio that you can hear? (im not looking to record streams,  just a game and voice chat on it)  --  Sound Recorder doesnt work for me
[19:43] <smeril> is hardy heron the best ubuntu?
[19:43] <smeril> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4153940/Linux_Ubuntu_8.04_Desktop_i386_Hardy_Heron
[19:43] <Mimi> smeril:  For me, yes its the best
[19:43] <RurouniJones> It is the latest
[19:43] <smeril> ok
[19:43] <melkart> it wasnt good for me, wrecked my system
[19:43] <RurouniJones> But then so is Windows Vista and look at what people are saying about that ;)
[19:44] <delta16> hey guy's can someone help me ?
[19:44] <Mimi> !ask | delta16
[19:46] <Muzer> Bugger it, no-one's replying on #kubuntu, #kde, or #kubuntu-kde4, I'll just try a backup + symlink
[19:47] <delta16> i have Kubuntu install wit  Dutchas system languge ,whe many software packages that i want to install cant becouse it's ging me an error that it's not in the ropsitry. one of the packeges is UNRAR.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> delta16, sudo apt-get install unrar
[19:49] <delta16> yea  that is the normal way i install the packages , but them i'm gettein the error messages
[19:49] <SchmittyTu> kde and blackberry? you guys heard of anything fancy?
[19:49] <trappist> delta16: you need to enable the universe repository, and possibly multiverse
[19:49] <trappist> !universe > delta16
[19:50] <delta16> thax il try that
[19:50] <Ketrel> If I have scripts in my Autostart folder and one of them didn't work, where can I find the output it would've produced so I can see why?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> delta16, Open Adept Package Manager, On the menu of that screen click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the Kubuntu Software tab, check all the boxes "X".The same goes for the Third Party Software tab. Close,and then in the terminal type " sudo apt-get update ".Now, you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[19:53] <delta16> BluesKaj   , sorry  didn't work :(
[19:53] <acer4920> helo
[19:53] <acer4920> ı am halil
[19:53] <acer4920> ı am new kubuntu
[19:53] <trappist> Ketrel: maybe ~/.xsession-errors, but it's easier if the script explicitly produces its own output
[19:54] <delta16> i did a repo updat and then try'd to install unrar but still the sam error message
[19:54] <Ketrel> trappist: that's the one I was thinking of, thanks
[19:54] <acer4920> kubuntu 8.04 java how?
[19:54] <LimCore> wow, ubuntu fails me so hard today
[19:54] <delta16> could it be becouse the packeg isn't transelated yet ?
[19:54] <LimCore> gnome or kde,   xgl or not-xgl,  there is tons of X crashing or invalid drawing.  anyone know how to fix this?
[19:54] <LimCore> 8.04
[19:55] <BluesKaj> delta16, what error messages are you getting ?, post them in pastebin if there are more than 3 lines
[19:56] <delta16> delta@delta-desktop:/media/winddows/Downloads$ sudo apt-get install unrarPakketlijsten worden ingelezen... KlaarBoom van vereisten wordt opgebouwdStatusinformatie wordt gelezen... KlaarPakket unrar is niet beschikbaar, hoewel er naar verwezen wordt dooreen ander pakket. Mogelijk betekent dit dat het pakket ontbreekt,verouderd is, of enkel beschikbaar is van een andere bronE: Pakket unrar heeft geen installeerbare kandidaat
[19:57] <trappist> delta16: that's all dutch to me :)
[19:57] <Ketrel> I installed nvidia driver 96.43.05 with EnvyNG
[19:57] <Ketrel> However, now when I log out I can't get back to KDM
[19:57] <Odd-rationale> !envy
[19:57] <delta16> that is the dutch eroor mesage that i'm getting ! it actuelly sais: the same error message in english taht you getting : no soutible candidate found
[19:58] <Ketrel> Odd-rationale: I installed an older one because I was getting blank TTYs with the current one
[19:58] <Ketrel> But now I can't log out right
[19:58] <trappist> delta16: have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?
[19:58] <Ketrel> I end up on a blank screen with a flashing cursor
[19:58] <trappist> delta16: the unrar package is in the multiverse repository
[19:59] <delta16> i have done as Blueskay told me , enable all  repo in adapt packet menager
[19:59] <ovidiu> hi
[19:59] <trappist> delta16: grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:59] <ovidiu> how I disable the spell checker?
[20:00] <trappist> ovidiu: in what application.
[20:00] <melkart> ovidiu: i achieved this only by disinstalling its dictionary :S
[20:00] <ovidiu> in pidgin, for example
[20:00] <Tear^> geiaaaaaaaaaa
[20:00] <melkart> uninstalling, rather
[20:00] <ovidiu> it appear in the most of GTK applications
[20:00] <ovidiu> ok
[20:00] <delta16> this is what i get as a aoutput
[20:00] <trappist> delta16: don't paste here if it's long!
[20:01] <tgreer> hi guys...any idea how to solve the error E: Not primary DBus name owner
[20:01] <delta16> delta@delta-desktop:/media/winddows/Downloads$ grep multiverse /etc/apt/sources.list## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntudeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiversedeb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy multiversedeb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiversedeb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-updates multiverse# deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[20:01] <delta16> iverse# deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiversedeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiversedeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security multiversedelta@delta-desktop:/media/winddows/Downloads$
[20:01] <delta16> just a couple of lines
[20:01] <delta16> but it looks to me like it's enabled
[20:01] <trappist> delta16: have you done 'sudo apt-get update' since you added the other repositories?
[20:02] <delta16> yes
[20:02] <trappist> delta16: what does 'apt-cache policy unrar' show (summarize, don't paste)
[20:03] <tommy> i don't have an internet connection at home, how can i install new software?
[20:03] <delta16> would you minde expaling me the commad ?
[20:03] <arekz> is kubuntu different from ubuntu?
[20:03] <ovidiu> what are the packgages for dictionaries?
[20:03] <acer4920> hello
[20:03] <ovidiu> or how I uninstall it?
[20:03] <trappist> delta16: it should show you where apt thinks the package is
[20:03] <acer4920> java kubuntu 8.04 how?
[20:03] <Tear^> hello my stik i dont know were is
[20:03] <Tear^> in kubuntu
[20:03] <trappist> !java
[20:03] <chisiyuan> tommy:do you have cd or dvd?
[20:03] <Ketrel> as far as my problem, I can fix it if I do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[20:04] <delta16> installd: (none)
[20:04] <monkeybritches> Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same, but they use different desktop managers
[20:04] <melkart> ovidiu: not that i really know these things well... but what about "aspell" or "ispell"?
[20:04] <tommy> cd
[20:04] <arekz> everytime i open a website, or reload a page, my computer seems to be "buffering" stopping music and freezing everything else for few seconds. What can i do to correct this?
[20:04] <delta16> candidate: (none) , versiontable: (none)
[20:04] <acer4920> ubottu: please kubuntu java how?
[20:04] <ovidiu> melkart: ok, I found it
[20:04] <ovidiu> but I wasn't sure
[20:04] <ovidiu> ;)
[20:04] <trappist> arekz: what browser?
[20:04] <tgreer> anyone know how to fix E: Not primary DBus name owner
[20:04] <arekz> FF
[20:05] <arekz> is there any other recommended browser for ubuntu users?
[20:05] <trappist> arekz: it could be an extension overworking your computer - mine acted that way and it turned out to be an extension
[20:05] <monkeybritches> Tear^: stik?
[20:05] <delta16> arekz the rocomendet browser is FIREFOX
[20:05] <arekz> Extension, you mean addons right?
[20:06] <trappist> arekz: yes
[20:06] <Tear^> monkeybritches,  yea
[20:06] <Tear^> usb stik
[20:06] <trappist> arekz: in my case it was codeweavers crossover plugin
[20:06] <Tear^> i dont know were is
[20:06] <Tear^> to open it
[20:06] <acer4920> hello kubuntu java how?
[20:06] <monkeybritches> If it automounted, it should be under /media
[20:06] <chisiyuan> tommy:well, if dvd, with more contents, you can install some from it
[20:06] <trappist> acer4920: ubottu already told you
[20:07] <delta16> trappist: i get : instlld:(none) || Candiddat:(none) || Versiontable:
[20:08] <trappist> delta16: can you pastebin (not paste!) your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[20:08] <mohi> hi :)
[20:08] <tommy> i can download at work and burn it but where can i download them?
[20:08] <mohi> how can I restart kicker?
[20:08] <dwidmann> mohi: killall kicker && kicker
[20:08] <trappist> mohi: alt-f2 -> kicker
[20:08] <delta16> what you mean by paste bin ?
[20:08] <delta16> pastebin ?
[20:08] <trappist> !pastebin
[20:08] <mohi> aha.. ty :)
[20:08] <Jucato> mohi: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[20:08] <mohi> wow! lots of ways! :D
[20:08] <trappist> Jucato: ooh, much better
[20:09] <trappist> mohi: do it jucato's way
[20:09] <chisiyuan> tommy:go to ubuntu.com
[20:09] <Jucato> dwidmann: killall kicker is a bit... abrupt
[20:09]  * Jucato waves to trappist
[20:09] <dwidmann> Jucato: but very functional none-the-less
[20:09]  * trappist waves back
[20:09] <trappist> dwidmann: also potentially destructive
[20:09] <mohi> nothing happened Jucato!
[20:09] <LimCore> how to report a bug that ubuntu FAILED to provide usable 3d environment?  xorg?
[20:09] <dwidmann> Jucato: it's sigterm so it does get to do whatever it needs to die instead of just dying
[20:09] <dwidmann> IIRC
[20:09] <trappist> LimCore: launchpad.net
[20:09] <Jucato> mohi: is kicker running in the first place?
[20:09] <dwidmann> it's not liking kill -9'ing it or anything
[20:10] <LimCore> trappist: I know.  xorg or what package/project?
[20:10] <mohi> Jucato: what do you mean?
[20:10] <trappist> LimCore: compiz-fusion
[20:10] <Jucato> mohi: press Ctrl+Esc and see if kicker is in the list
[20:10] <LimCore> trappist: how to disable that, btw
[20:10] <Jucato> mohi: I'm presuming you're using KDE 3.5?
[20:10] <trappist> LimCore: or maybe the source package is just compiz
[20:10] <LimCore> trappist: to have not-crashing desktop
[20:10] <arekz> i disable my greasemonkey and other extension, still not working trappist
[20:10] <trappist> yeah, compiz
[20:11] <arekz> any other recommendation?
[20:11] <trappist> LimCore: don't know, actually - google probably does :)
[20:11] <mohi> Jucato: yes. 3.5
[20:11] <Jucato> mohi: so is kicker running?
[20:11] <mohi> Jucato: I killed it via ctrl+esc and started it again! worked!
[20:11] <mohi> ty :)
[20:12] <Jucato> ok. it might have just been hidden
[20:12] <mohi> :S
[20:14] <delta16> trappist  if done in on pate.ubuntu.com
[20:14] <delta16> *paste
[20:14] <mohi> who has aptoncd here? does the botton "load" in restore mode workes for you? I have 2 systems and none of them works!
[20:15] <trappist> delta16: need to have a link to your specific paste
[20:15] <vbgunz> anyone have any idea what this means or how to trace a signal 11 on xserver? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9259/
[20:16] <delta16> trappist http://paste.ubuntu.com/9257/
[20:16] <vbgunz> I swear my X is restarting on me randomly. never when I am at the PC ***only*** when I am away or someone else is logged on... absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt very frustrating... had this issue the last past 3 releases :/
[20:16] <LimCore> vbgunz: report it... try reinstalling clean.. hardware?
[20:16] <vbgunz> anybody have any clue how to ***trace*** the cause of the issue?
[20:16] <Pollywog> hello, since upgrading to Hardy I can't play audio cd's
[20:17] <vbgunz> I have reported it. months ago. had to just give up on it
[20:17] <santiago_> hello
[20:17] <LimCore> Pollywog: try mixer settings.  enable more mixer options in config
[20:17] <Pollywog> anyone know what the problem is, apparently others have the same problem but I did not find a fix on the forums
[20:17] <dwidmann> vbgunz: check your logs
[20:17] <santiago_> i have a problem with sound
[20:17] <santiago_> :D
[20:17] <Pollywog> LimCore: k thanks
[20:17] <vbgunz> I pulled my paste out of a log
[20:17] <trappist> delta16: that looks right - just for fun, please do this: "sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install unrar"
[20:17] <yerli> türçe konuşan varmı
[20:17] <lliw00> ey im trying to install something from source and i keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/m6420c2fa
[20:17] <lliw00> any ideas to the problem?
[20:17] <vbgunz> other than that, I have no idea what in the world is *causing* a signal 11 :(
[20:18] <santiago_> the sound only works with amarok or kaffeine
[20:18] <dwidmann> vbgunz: most X problems are video driver related
[20:18] <RurouniJones> vbgunz: Done a memtest? Could be dodgy RAM
[20:18] <dwidmann> as far as I've seen
[20:18] <santiago_> but not with any other aplication or OS sound
[20:18] <Pollywog> I have sound, I just can't play cd's
[20:18] <trappist> lliw00: do you have an nvidia card?
[20:18] <lliw00> no
[20:18] <Pollywog> since I upgraded to Hardy
[20:18] <lliw00> just a little embedded sis 662
[20:18] <Pollywog> it was fine in Gutsy
[20:18] <trappist> lliw00: install mesa-common-dev
[20:19] <delta16> trapist damn i'm getting the same error message :(
[20:19] <vbgunz> unexpectedly is no definitive answer... I am as much in the dark as the dark itself... lame analogy but true. I can live with the fact I am getting a signal 11 *but* is there anyway to actually trace it or something. any way to actually catch the cause, log the actual cause?
[20:19] <trappist> delta16: not sure what to tell you :/ maybe it's just missing from the nl repo
[20:20] <delta16> ok , is ther a way to use the english repo with dutch a system languge ?
[20:21] <trappist> delta16: got it!  sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[20:21] <Santi-> help¿
[20:21] <dwidmann> delta16: you can use whatever repo you want.
[20:21] <dwidmann> delta16: probably anyhow
[20:22] <delta16> cous i think english repo wil solve the problem
[20:22] <trappist> delta16: but yeah dwidmann's right, you don't have to use a local repo to get your local language... but, "sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[20:23] <delta16> trappist  the trick (sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree) didn't work
[20:23] <trappist> !
[20:23] <delta16> i got the erromessage that the package does not exist
[20:23] <trappist> delta16: I guess just download the package and install it: http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/unrar-nonfree/unrar_3.7.8-1_i386.deb
[20:24] <trappist> delta16: then sudo dpkg -i unrar-nonfree/unrar_3.7.8-1_i386.deb
[20:24] <trappist> err without the unrar-nonfree/ part
[20:24] <trappist> just the filename
[20:25] <delta16> hhaahah yea well iwa already thinking of dooing it the easy way :P
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> !info unrar
[20:28] <_2> my running linux system is on /dev/hdb    i just did this  cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda ;mke2fs /dev/hda ;lilo (lilo is setup to install the MBR on /dev/hda)   now when i boot hdb is blank all but /lost+found      however if i bounce the bootloader to hdc and boot from there, same system just a different MBR loading the same kernel/initramfs pair, here i am with everything on hdb and it's hda that's clean      how is this happening ?
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> _2: Perhaps you could be more specific about "bounce the bootloader to hdc".
[20:31] <_2> jhutchins_uk i have boot from hda, boot from hdb, boot from hdc, boot from hdd   listings in my lilo.conf  which simply chainload the next drive
[20:31] <_2> so i could, if it seemed like the thing to do; bounce from drive to drive all day. and never boot an os
[20:32] <jonder_-_> jhoe
[20:32] <Santi-> need help
[20:33] <_2> actually "chainload" is a grub term, lilo does   other=/dev/hdc
[20:34] <_2> same basic effect
[20:34] <Santi-> _2 !!!
[20:34] <Santi-> yesterday you tried to help me
[20:35] <Santi-> i discovered something
[20:35] <Rodrigo_de_Olive> Hello!!! I'm needing informations about ubuntu... can I convert my operation system of english to portuguese?
[20:35] <Santi-> Amarok and Kaffeine work though xine motor
[20:35] <Santi-> so??
[20:35] <Santi-> :D
[20:35] <_2> jhutchins_wk any clue?
[20:35] <Santi-> how can use that onfo in order to have sound?? :p
[20:36] <_2> Santi- insyall arts ?
[20:37] <Santi-> whats that?? :S
[20:37] <Santi-> i am a newbbie :p
[20:37] <_2> !arts | Santi-
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> Rodrigo_de_Olive: I believe you can.  This is the channel for kubuntu, ubuntu with KDE instead of gnome, and there's even a portuguese IRC channel.
[20:37] <jhutchins_wk> !pt | Rodrigo_de_Olive
[20:37] <_2> !info arts
[20:37] <_2>            ^
[20:38] <Rodrigo_de_Olive> thanks
[20:38] <Santi-> a manual apperars :s
[20:38] <jhutchins_wk> _2: Hm.  Sounds a lot like it's ordering the drives differently.  Try assigning them a UUID and see if you can tell.
[20:38] <Santi-> what should I do?? :S
[20:39] <_2> jhutchins_wk but i dont think lilo supports uuid's
[20:40] <jhutchins_wk> _2: Doesn't matter.  With the UUID, you can tell if hdb is being assigned to a different drive.
[20:40] <_2> how ?
[20:40] <Santi-> help¿¿
[20:40] <_2> note if it is i'm only going to see the busybox shell
[20:41] <_2> i'll go fix it now and stop bothering you folks.
[20:41] <Santi-> please help me??
[20:42] <_2> p.s. someone get santi-'s sound working for him.
[20:42] <Santi-> LOL
[20:42] <SlimeyPete> sorry Santi-, we are listening but I guess no-one here is a sound expert
[20:43] <Santi-> where should I go??
[20:43] <SlimeyPete> if there's a #alsa you could try there
[20:43] <Santi-> also, kopetes web cam does not work
[20:43] <Santi-> no help there :s
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> !webcam | Santi-
[20:51] <Santi-> tnx
[20:51] <Santi-> bye!!
[20:51] <tailsfan> Hello, What is a good download manager for Kubuntu, I wanted to get the DVD Image of Hardy
[20:54] <tailsfan> plus, does anyone have trouble with Internet Connection Sharing on Kubuntu
[20:54] <dwidmann> tailsfan: kget is good, kget-kde4 is even better
[20:54]  * tailsfan doesn't like KDE 4
[20:55] <Boohbah_> tailsfan: ktorrent
[20:55] <tailsfan> but ktorrent doesn't downlooad HTTP files
[20:56] <Boohbah_> but the torrent is just as fast
[20:56] <tailsfan> for me, not so much
[20:57] <Boohbah_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[20:57] <Boohbah_> tailsfan: why?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> ktorrent has a new beta out ..wonder how stable it is ?
[20:57] <hume> is there a way to have a second panel for most used program icons in KDE 4, like in KDE 3.5? Running Kubuntu Heron
[20:58] <mado> hi guys ...
[20:58] <tailsfan> because the best I downloaded was at 200 kb/s
[20:58] <tailsfan> and my net sometimes kicks me off
[20:58] <mado> i don't know why but i get this error message quite often ...
[20:58] <mado> Die Desktop-Datei
[20:58] <mado> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[20:58] <mado> hat einen ungültigen Menü-Eintrag
[20:58] <mado> addAsPodcast.
[20:58] <ubuntu> salve
[20:59] <mado> ave! :)
[20:59] <BluesKaj> magister
[20:59] <ubuntu> ho appena installato il mio modem usb su kubuntu
[20:59] <ubuntu> solo che non riesco ad andare in rete
[20:59] <ubuntu> cioè non capisco
[21:00] <BluesKaj> !it | ubuntu
[21:00] <ubuntu> qui accedo ma alla rete no
[21:00] <ubuntu> okay
[21:00] <ubuntu> salve
[21:00] <BluesKaj> ciao
[21:01]  * tailsfan likes Kubuntu a little more than Windows
[21:01] <Kiry> tails, that doesn't take much!
[21:01] <Kiry> :)
[21:01]  * Desmond likes almost anything better then windows
[21:01] <hume> anyone knows hot to add a second panel i KDE4?
[21:01] <tailsfan> well, for me, I'm used to Windows and linux gives me probs on some things
[21:01] <tailsfan> like Internet Connection Sharing, for my brother's 260
[21:01] <tailsfan> 360*
[21:02] <tailsfan> and unlike Kubuntu, there is no Music, Movie and Video Support for Xbox 360
[21:02] <tailsfan> Windows*
[21:03] <ubuntu> salve ragazzi
[21:03] <trident523> tailsfan: xb360 is fun and all, but trying to use media on it is a pain anyhow... in my limited experience with it.
[21:04] <tailsfan> lol
[21:04] <Agent_bob> anyone here that saw yestergo that i was only getting 1.6m/s hda -> hdb data transfer ?    well to day i'm getting  12.67 MB/s hdb -> hda     <note reverse dirrection   and no partition    not sure which one is making the differance though
[21:05] <ubuntu__> hello guys
[21:05] <ubuntu__> excuse me
[21:05] <ubuntu__> i need support
[21:05] <SlimeyPete> !ask | ubuntu__
[21:05] <SlimeyPete> :)
[21:05] <ubuntu__> is there someone who can help me?
[21:06] <trident523> !ask | ubuntu__
[21:07] <trident523> ... s'rly.
[21:07] <ubuntu__> I've problem. I'm Italian, so if I can't spaek good English... I've installed my usb modem on Kubuntu. Now I see that I can join in mIRC but i can't go in Internet.  Can you say me why? Please help me!
[21:07] <Agent_bob> !it
[21:07] <Desmond> !anything
[21:07] <ubuntu__> @ubottu, in ubuntu-it  non mi apare nessuno
[21:07] <Desmond> lol
[21:07] <Desmond> !thank you
[21:08] <Desmond> hes a bot
[21:08] <ubuntu__> oh, I understand
[21:08] <ubuntu__> I don't use often mIRC
[21:08] <ubuntu__> and I never used this channel
[21:08] <krist> hey
[21:09] <ubuntu__> can anyone help me?
[21:09] <Desmond> sure
[21:09] <Desmond> whats yo problem?
[21:09] <Agent_bob> Desmond scroll up  he said modem blocking http access
[21:09] <Agent_bob> that or dns issue
[21:10] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, click here,  www.google.com .. tell us what happens
[21:10] <Desmond> google opens
[21:10] <ubuntu__> no..
[21:10] <Agent_bob> more likely dns problem   but i'm not a network guy
[21:10] <Desmond> with artist frame
[21:10] <Desmond> lol
[21:10] <Desmond> google opend for me
[21:10] <tailsfan> Back
[21:10] <ubuntu__> Impossibile connettersi all'host http://www.google.com/. I translate: Impossible to connect to the host
[21:11] <ScorpKing> ubuntu__: how do you connect to the internet?
[21:11] <ubuntu__> this is my problem..
[21:11] <Desmond> !internet
[21:11] <Desmond> !web
[21:11] <ubuntu__> i can go on IRC but not on sites
[21:11] <ScorpKing> ubuntu__: adsl? dialup?
[21:11] <Desmond> um
[21:11] <ubuntu__> adsl
[21:11] <ScorpKing> hmm..
 I've problem. I'm Italian, so if I can't spaek good English... I've installed my usb modem on Kubuntu. Now I see that I can join in mIRC but i can't go in Internet.  Can you say me why? Please help me!  <<< everyone see.
[21:12] <tailsfan> BRB, have to restart
[21:12] <ScorpKing> ubuntu__: close knetworkmanager and it should work
[21:12] <Agent_bob> tailsfan working on the mbr ?
[21:12] <ScorpKing> thanks Agent_bob :)
[21:12] <ubuntu__> ok, I try
[21:12] <Desmond> !it
[21:12] <Desmond> go to that channel
[21:12] <Desmond> #ubuntu-it <<click
[21:13] <Desmond> all in italian
[21:13] <Desmond> good lucj
[21:13] <Desmond> luck
[21:13] <Desmond> =)
[21:13] <ubuntu__> wonderful
[21:13] <ubuntu__> it is all okay
[21:13] <ubuntu__> you are geniuses
[21:13] <ubuntu__> (i can't speak good english..oh)
[21:13] <ubuntu__> thank you thank you thank you!!!
[21:13] <ScorpKing> ubuntu__: i know. it's a problem with knetworkmanager if you use dialup or any modem
[21:13] <Agent_bob> "even a blind hog will find an acorn every now and then"
[21:14] <BluesKaj> your english ok , we understood  , ubuntu__
[21:15] <MrCraig> hey guys, i got a quick question
[21:16] <Agent_bob> huttoh! ""Cannot create target directory "/mnt/usr/share/~ons/crystalsvg" No space left on device (28)""    i wonder what the krap that error message is?   or what is causing it i mean...
[21:16] <MrCraig> when KDE 4.1 one comes out, will it be a kubuntu "sponsored" update, or will we have to wait until 8.10 before 4.1 is in there?
[21:16] <MrCraig> *the final release
[21:17] <Agent_bob> and don't say the disk is full  it's not even close.  63G free
[21:17] <Agent_bob> no reserve and root is doing the copying
[21:18] <FenixReign> can anyone tell me if there is a way to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 with the downloaded disc?
[21:18] <Agent_bob> so why would mc error with   ""Cannot create target directory "/mnt/usr/share/~ons/crystalsvg" No space left on device (28)""
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> only if you downloaded the alternate CD
[21:19] <mado> hi guys ...
[21:19] <mado> can you help me on that too? ...
[21:19] <SlimeyPete> on what?
[21:20] <mado> just a sec ... i'm writing it down
[21:20] <ScorpKing> !remaster
[21:20] <ScorpKing> does anyone know what that's supposed to be?
[21:21] <shaffy> may anyone help?  i've installed kubuntu kde4 (clean install), however, after the first logon, now i have nothing on my desktop (not even a taskbar), only the widget icon in the corner.  any ideas anyone?  have I somehow disabled the taskbar?
[21:21] <FenixReign> SmileyPete, what do you mean alternate CD?
[21:21] <ScorpKing> !kde4
[21:21] <mado> i found this on a homepage ...
[21:21] <mado> QUESTION: Is there any place I can download a .zip file of all the pages? - ANSWER. If by "download" you mean purchase, and by ".zip file" you mean book. Otherwise you have to save all of them individually. Good luck.
[21:21] <joseph> is there any free web forum software in the repos?
[21:21] <mado> my question now is ... is it illegal to download the pages?
[21:22] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: there are two CDs - the liveCD and the alternate CD. Both are available from the download page.
[21:22] <Agent_bob> 1 [root@/mnt/usr/share/apps] mkdir kde
[21:22] <Agent_bob> mkdir: cannot create directory `kde': No space left on device
[21:22] <Agent_bob> eeek.
[21:22] <mado> because the creator didn't say it was
[21:22] <Agent_bob> 63gig free but no space left ....
[21:22] <mado> what do you think?
[21:22] <nysin> I downloaded and tried Kubuntu Hardy KDE4, and some of KDE4 is kind of neat, but it's also, as expected, pretty unstable. So my question is, will just doing something like uninstalling the main KDE4 (meta)package and installing the KDE3 equivalent be sufficient to switch?
[21:22] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: df -h?
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> mado: erm that's not really appropriate for this channel (try #kubuntu-offtopic) but it's perfectly legal I should think
[21:23] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing 63 g free
[21:23] <Agent_bob> i just said that
[21:23] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: dmesg | tail or maybe something in the logs?
[21:23] <mado> ok ... thanks SlimeyPete --- could you explain me in a query why do you think it is?
[21:23] <FenixReign> SlimeyPete, you mean the one with the KDE4 remix... correct?
[21:23] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda               75G   13G   63G  17% /mnt
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: no
[21:23] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: it could be that /tmp is full
[21:23] <BluesKaj> Agent_bob, why not use /home or
[21:23] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: hang on I'll find a link
[21:24] <FenixReign> SlimeyPete, I don't see an alternateCD choice then...
[21:24] <Agent_bob> last two entries  [17179727.040000] EXT3 FS on hda, internal journal
[21:24] <Agent_bob> [17179727.040000] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[21:24] <nysin> (I didn't partition it so that I could just wipe the / partition or something)
[21:24] <SlimeyPete> mado: I prefer not to query. Try asking the same question in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:24] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj ?  i'm migrating to another drive   or was trying to
[21:25] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: touch /tmp/testfile - any errors?
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/      - look for "alternate" in the filename
[21:25] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing it's not / it's /mnt that is reporting full
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: you can upgrade from that CD
[21:25] <SlimeyPete> !alternate
[21:25] <Devourer> How do I check to see what my default soundcard is?
[21:25] <mado> ok SlimeyPete ... thanks anyway
[21:26] <melkart> i just read there is a limit on maximum 32000 subdirs in ext3
[21:26] <ScorpKing> ah but that should show in dmesg or the logs then
[21:26] <FenixReign> SlimeyPete, Thanks... I just downloaded a CD last night.... argh!!  I don't think that it was the alternate one though....
[21:27] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: if your kubuntu box has an internet connection you can just upgrade via the 'net
[21:28] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d102a673b
[21:28] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing   see that   ^
[21:28] <spiroo> Adobe has opened up the restrictions in Flash. How would that affect us users which using (k)ubuntu
[21:28]  * ScorpKing takes a look..
[21:29] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing also   tty23<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mkdir /mnt/bob
[21:29] <Agent_bob> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/bob': No space left on device
[21:29] <FenixReign> SlimeyPete, I know... thought that it would be faster doing it from the cd that I downloaded instead... I have Satellite Internet and I'm damn near close to reaching  FAP (Fair Access Policy) and when I do they cut me off....
[21:30] <SlimeyPete> FenixReign: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu for instructions by the way
[21:30] <BluesKaj> FenixReign, cut you off ...limits on your DLs ?.I thought that went out with dialup
[21:31] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: fdisk -l /dev/hda and pastebin that
[21:31] <udi> Thunderbird refuses to open urls that are embedded in email messages.  What do I do?
[21:32] <FenixReign> BluesKaj, since I have Sat. internet the company can't just go rent bandwidth when they want to, so they start cutting ppl off when they reach a certain point.
[21:32] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:32] <ScorpKing> udi: there is a setting for that in preferences
[21:32] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing it's in the pastebin
[21:32] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: link?
[21:32] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d102a673b
[21:32] <BluesKaj> FenixReign, is it bundled with TV service ?
[21:33] <udi> scor- in teh Thunderbird preferences?  I could not find it
[21:33] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing it starts at line 6   or didn't you notice ?
[21:33] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: /dev/hda on /mnt type ext3 (rw) and fdisk -l doesn't show the partitions of /dev/hda or am i missing that?
[21:33] <FenixReign> BluesKaj, no separate service... I live in the country and sat. is the only way for now to get "high speed"  so far I am disappointed, but there is nothing else right now.
[21:33] <Agent_bob> there are no partitions ScorpKing
[21:34] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: oops ;)
[21:34] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: ok i see now
[21:34] <Agent_bob> :)
[21:34] <udi> Scorpking-- where in the preferences do I find the instructions to open a browser with the url from the email message?
[21:35] <Agent_bob> anyway while you catch up i'll reformat the disk and try again.
[21:35] <ScorpKing> udi: i'll check just now. one sec
[21:35] <udi> ok
[21:35] <BluesKaj> ok, FenixReign , sounds better than dialup tho ....my buddy lives on a farm about 10 mi from and he uses satinternet as well. He's never mentioned the "cap".
[21:35] <Walzmyn> Anybody know how to use shared folders with virtualbox?
[21:36] <FenixReign> BluesKaj, what service does he have?
[21:36] <fdoving> Walzmyn: yeah, i managed to use that once. what is the problem? - i've only done this with windows guests.
[21:37] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: i'm wondering if not having partitions might be the problem but i'm not sure. i'll do some thinking
[21:37] <spiroo> How do I change language for firefox3?
[21:38] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing nope.   i hardly ever use a partition.  and this it the first time a disk has ever done that.
[21:38] <Devourer> How do I set my default sound card?
[21:38] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing i'm wondering if having a journal might have caused it,   journal corruption ???
[21:39] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: could be. unmount it and run fsck on it
[21:40] <Agent_bob> Devourer  asoundconf --help  might know
[21:40] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing already reformated and trying again.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> FenixReign, i think it's Galaxy Broadband
[21:41] <BluesKaj> we're in Canada
[21:41] <patpond> w00t
[21:42] <ScorpKing> udi: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_browser
[21:43] <FenixReign> BluesKaj,  He also might have a different package internet than I....
[21:43] <BluesKaj> yeah, looks like a lotta options
[21:43] <udi> ok-- I shall look at that
[21:44] <Walzmyn> fdoving, sorry, I was in the guest - I'm trying to move some files between the two, and I can't figure out how to get the guest to see the shared folder.
[21:45] <fdoving> Walzmyn: troy to go to \\vboxsrv\
[21:46] <fdoving> err. \\vboxsvr
[21:46] <dave11> lol.. Walmarts website is crashing my firefox everytime
[21:46] <Walzmyn> fdoving, put that in the windows explorer
[21:46] <Walzmyn> ?
[21:46] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: i just looked at my own df -h "/dev/sda1    9.7G  9.2G  0 100% /" oops!
[21:46] <fdoving> Walzmyn: yeah, \\vboxsvr\
[21:46] <Agent_bob> hehhe that page doesn't render correctly in text based browsers   all lines are cut at 78 chars long   the remainder of the line is not warpped it's just lost  lol    ^
[21:47] <Walzmyn> fdoving, ok thanks
[21:47] <Agent_bob> that page   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_browser  ^
[21:47] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: use w3m ;)
[21:48] <arvid> Why can't i do Apply in System Settings-Display?
[21:48] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d246328e7 :)
[21:49] <_juan> anyone using kde4?
[21:49] <dave11> !webcam
[21:50] <arvid> yes im using kde4
[21:50] <Walzmyn> fdoving, remind me, how does winders handle file names with a space in them?
[21:50] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: i can see all of it with w3m here
[21:50] <_juan> in the kmenu all i get for icons are question marks
[21:50] <fdoving> Walzmyn: no clue. ##windows
[21:51] <Agent_bob> ScorpKing hmm version maybe different.  but elinks does the same thing to me
[21:51] <Walzmyn> fdoving, thanks
[21:51] <ziberzone> olaa??
[21:51] <Agent_bob> w3m version w3m/0.5.1,
[21:51] <_juan> and what's worse, i cant seem to find how to edit the kmenu, any ideas arvid?
[21:52] <ScorpKing> Agent_bob: w3m version w3m/0.5.1+cvs-1.968
[21:53] <Agent_bob> it's obviously a bad page ;/      lynx does render it correctly tho
[21:53] <ScorpKing> could be. i have to go
[21:53] <arvid> _juan sorry, i installed kde today, never used it before in my life
[21:53] <Agent_bob> just checked the progress of my data transfer    14.16 MB/s   69% complete
[21:54] <Agent_bob> i think thats' the highest transfer rate i have ever seen here
[21:56] <Devourer> Ok, I got my sound to work in FireFox but now it doesn't work in VLC.. why not?
[21:56] <Agent_bob> tell vlc to use arts
[21:56] <wirechief-intel> join /#kubuntu-devel
[21:56] <Devourer> Agent_bob, what is arts?
[21:56] <Agent_bob> !info arts
[21:56] <sigma_1234> can the oxygen window theme / decorations be used in kde 3 somehow? i see that the icons can
[21:56] <Agent_bob> that    ^
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: the decorations can...
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> not the widget themes though
[21:57] <Devourer> Agent_bob, how do I tell VLC to use that?
[21:57] <XyQrTw> hello chan
[21:57] <Agent_bob> Devourer or if you don't use arts at all,  tell vlc to use alsa as it's audio output
[21:58] <sigma_1234> how do i apply them? i checked in kcontrol and oxygen is not listed there
[21:58] <Agent_bob> Devourer in the vlc menu   settings thingy-ma-bob
[21:58] <Agent_bob> !theme
[21:58] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: i just want to use the window decorations
[21:58] <Agent_bob> !changethemes
[21:59] <Dystopian> ty ubottu
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: grab kwin4 and run "kwin4 --replace"
[21:59] <Agent_bob> !thanks | Dystopian
[21:59] <sigma_1234> !info kwin4
[22:00] <Devourer> Agent_bob, didn't work. :'(
[22:00] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: what does that kwin4 do?
[22:00] <Agent_bob> if you select the right one it will.   try alsa
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> sigma_1234: uses kwin4 instead of kwin3
[22:01] <Devourer> Agent_bob, so I'm selecting output modules?
[22:01] <sigma_1234> nosrednaekim: and il still be able to run kde3 with it?
[22:01] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim but both are listed as "kwin" are they not ?    cause there is a nomynclature problem there if not.
[22:02] <XyQrTw> I've some problems with my network.When i open a session, i must enable ethernet for the connection ...
[22:02] <Agent_bob> !info kwin4 | nosrednaekim
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> ooooh....  haha
[22:02] <Agent_bob> !info kwin4 dapper | nosrednaekim
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> you're right... its /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kwin
[22:03] <Agent_bob> there you go.
[22:03] <Ketrel> How do I change the KDM theme? I search the repository, but I can't seem to find the theme manager? (Hardy)
[22:03] <Agent_bob> !info kwin4 hoary
[22:03] <Agent_bob> why does that thing only show gutsy packages ?
[22:03] <LimCore> !info wesnoth
[22:04] <Agent_bob>               ^ (gutsy)
[22:04] <Ketrel> ignore my question for now, I think I found the answer
[22:04] <Agent_bob> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[22:04] <Agent_bob> too late.
[22:05] <XyQrTw> I've some problems with my network.When i open a session, i must enable ethernet for the connection ...
[22:06] <Devourer> Agent_bob, :(
[22:08] <Vermux> how do I find the smbpasswd data file?
[22:09] <shaffy> !kde4
[22:09] <Agent_bob> Vermux the docs ?   man pages maybe ?
[22:13] <Ketrel> Ok new question, I installed kdmtheme, is there anywhere in the GUI to run it? (so far kcmshell kdmtheme is the only way I found to run it)
[22:13] <jordi_> #ubuntu-cat
[22:14] <XyQrTw> How i can activate ethernet for each user who login a session in KDE ?
[22:15] <martijn81> XyQrTw: should be activated automaticly
[22:16] <XyQrTw> martijn81> yes
[22:17] <XyQrTw> martijn81> But i must click for activate ethernet
[22:17] <martijn81> XyQrTw: why is that not the case for me ?
[22:18] <Devourer> To see kanji in a text editor do I have to use unicode view or somethin'?
[22:18] <XyQrTw> martijn81> I dont know ...
[22:19] <ercan_> Hi, my update to hardy is hanging at "Stopping Bluetooth Services". Any ideas what I can do to get it going again.
[22:19] <martijn81> XyQrTw: i have a modem doing all the work for me
[22:23] <ercan_> anyone?
[22:23] <noisekiller> There is no decoder available... kubuntu 7.10 fresh installation
[22:23] <hume> hi...how do I configure compiz effects in kubuntu heron, KDE4?
[22:23] <hume> I have compiz-kde installed - but how do I enable it?
[22:25] <Odd-rationale> hume: open kmenu --> system --> desktop effects and choose your effect level and click apply
[22:26] <hume> ok... how do I know which effects are at each level?
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> hume: just select the highest :P
[22:27] <hume> and need I restart X to make them work?
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> you shouldn't, no
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> your windows should blink..
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> after hitting apply
[22:28] <hume> i click on "extra effects" and done, but makes no difference...?
[22:28] <hume> apply, i mean, then ok. but no change...?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> ok, opne up a terminal and run "compiz --replace"
[22:31] <eatatjoes> can anyone help me with sharing folders from ubuntu to xp with vbox (i have ubuntu as host and xp as guest)
[22:31] <gromozekin> Hi there. I have  problem with dualcore
[22:32] <gromozekin> it doesnt shows at batterymenu
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> eatatjoes: no... just worked for me....
[22:32] <gromozekin> kernel - 2.6.25
[22:32] <eatatjoes> nosrednaekim, did u just have to click shared folders from the vbox window
[22:32] <eatatjoes> or did u have to do something within xp?
[22:32] <gromozekin> kubuntu 8.04, laptop, intel core2duo t5450
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> you have to do something within XP... its in the docs
[22:33] <hume> ok...thx
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> hume: don't close that terminal tho ;P
[22:34] <hume> cause then compiz closes?
[22:34] <gromozekin> hey nosrednaekim
[22:34] <hume> seems to be some problems with my graphics card, need to check that... this is a laptop
[22:35] <eatatjoes> nosrednaekim,  what docs?
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> hume: yes :)
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> eatatjoes: within Vbox
[22:45] <fuzzybyte> help! my kicker bar vanished in kde4! how do i get it back
[22:46] <fuzzybyte> i tried rebooting X but it doesnt come back
[22:46] <nosrednaekim> fuzzybyte: "killall plasma && rm .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc && plasma"
[22:47] <fuzzybyte> it's a bug?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> IDK... but that fixes it :)
[22:48] <fuzzybyte> this new kde4 GUI is so confusing.
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[22:49]  * genii sips his coffee
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> everything is really the same... you just can't do as much
[22:49] <superdude2435> my monitor is stuck in 640X480
[22:49] <superdude2435> just installed compiz and it worked fine
[22:49] <fuzzybyte> how do i get the start menu to act like old way?
[22:49] <superdude2435> until my computer chrashed
[22:50] <dwidmann> fuzzybyte: there's a plasmoid for that
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> fuzzybyte: remove the current one, and add "application menu launcher traditional" or something like that
[22:50] <fuzzybyte> how do i do that
[22:51] <superdude2435> uhg every thing is in 640x480
[22:51] <hume> hi again... now my window borders are crazy in KDE4 - suddenly they are red and very visible - the default almost borderless oxygen look is all gone - anyone could help me get it back?
[22:52] <hydrogen> fuzzybyte: you should be able to just right click on the icon
[22:52] <hydrogen> and switch
[22:52] <hydrogen> "Switch to classic menu style"
[22:53] <darky> hi
[22:53] <darky> Does anyone has a Geforce Nvidia here?
[22:53] <fuzzybyte> i have
[22:53] <hydrogen> !anyone
[22:53] <tiberius1701> i have also
[22:54] <darky> are you on Hardy heron?
[22:54] <darky> with the nvidia-glx driver?
[22:55] <genii> /msg ubotu !aptfix
[22:55] <genii> bah
[22:55] <fuzzybyte> how can i move those widgets in kicker
[22:55] <genii> Whats the bot called now?
[22:55] <tiberius1701> im on hardy and i have what ever diver it gave me when i installed
[22:55] <hume> i have "click for focus" marked, but focus follows mouse...anyone knows swhy?
[22:55] <martha505>
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> hume: do you have "custom" elected in the desktop-effect manager
[22:57] <connor> whats the channel for compiz fusion?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> connor: #compiz-fusion
[22:57] <hume> nosrednaekim, i uninstalled the compiz driver, it crashed my desktop... but the grayed out dot is on "extra"
[22:57] <genii> !aptfix
[22:58] <genii> OK two t's now in bot name
[22:58] <martha505> i opened katapult and the process is running but when i press alt+enter nothing happens
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> hume: and you are trying to use the ccsm?
[22:58] <martha505> why?
[22:58] <hume> nosrednaekim, the what?
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> hume: ok... you are still running compiz obviously..
[22:58] <Avgustin> hey... peoples, tell me please, who knows programm for ADSL connection to PPPoE protocol?
[22:59] <nosrednaekim> hume: run, form a run dialog, "kwin --replace"
[22:59] <hume> ok
[23:00] <hume> nosrednaekim, ok..that means that now it's kwin managing my desktop, earlier it was compiz...? is that right?
[23:01] <genii> Avgustin: pppoeconfig
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> right
[23:01] <genii> Avgustin: pppoeconf    rather
[23:01] <hume> phew
[23:01] <fuzzybyte> how can i get the kicker to auto-hide?
[23:02] <Avgustin> hume> thanks
[23:02] <Odd-rationale> fuzzybyte: kde3? yes
[23:03] <hume> nosrednaekim, another issue (or two): in KDE 3.5 I used to have an extra panel with icons for my favourite programs - how do I do that in KDE4?
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> fuzzybyte: Right-click panel --> Configure panel --> Hiding
[23:03] <fuzzybyte> kde4
[23:03] <fuzzybyte> there's no autohide option or anything here
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> fuzzybyte: dunno. try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[23:03] <hydrogen> hume: you should be able to right click on the desktop and add panel.. I don't remember if that was backported to the 4.0 branch though
[23:03] <hydrogen> fuzzybyte: not possible
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> hume: you can't in kde4.0.3 (very easily at least) in 4.1 it will be possible
[23:04] <fuzzybyte> hydrogen: why?
[23:04] <patpond> anyone wanna give a n00b a helping hand ?  :D
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> hydrogen: it wasn't :(
[23:04] <hume> nosrednaekim, is there another way to manage the "favourite programs"?
[23:04] <patpond> I can't get vmware to work on kubuntu Hardy... :(
[23:05] <fuzzybyte> kde4 seems rather unfinished product
[23:05] <hydrogen> yes
[23:05] <hydrogen> It is
[23:05] <hydrogen> now that we've got that out of the way
[23:05] <Fa> yes
[23:05] <Fa> kde still has too many bugs
[23:05] <fuzzybyte> yea, im going back to kde3
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> hume: kickoff has a favorite applications thwt you can add things too... as does the traditional menu (wo which you can just add the favotite programs)
[23:06] <sloth> what is the command to open up control center?
[23:07] <hume> ok, thx
[23:07] <fuzzybyte> is there a easy way to revert back to kde3?
[23:07] <chisiyuan> sloth: run kcontrol
[23:08] <sloth> thank you
[23:08] <chisiyuan> sloth: np
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> fuzzybyte: yeah... "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[23:08] <hydrogen> systemsettings actually
[23:08] <hydrogen> is the reccomended way
[23:09] <jim> How do i update the system to the new ubuntu ?
[23:09] <hydrogen> jim: see the toipc
[23:10] <chisiyuan> jim:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:10] <jim> Thanks
[23:10] <jim> will that also remove any of my files do you kow ?
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> jim: it depends on what method you use?
[23:11] <jim> umm
[23:11] <jim> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:11] <jim> that 1
[23:11] <jim> :)
[23:11] <hydrogen> thats not the recommended method
[23:11] <jim> hmm...
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> uhh without the "?" ;)
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> thats shouldn't remove any of your files.... but back them up anyway
[23:13] <jim> i was more thinking... will it remove compiz
[23:13] <Avgustin_> genii> tell me please, how can i run dsl connection after configured dsl-provider?
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> nope
[23:13] <jim> ahh good
[23:13] <jim> ill let you know how it goes
[23:14] <jim> how has the responce been with the new distro ?
[23:15] <jim> has it cleaned out a lot of the old buggs ?
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> and introdiced some new ones
[23:15] <Vermux> how do I restart Samba in Kubuntu?
[23:15] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[23:16] <jim> ok i did the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and its finished
[23:16] <jim> do i reboot now ?
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> jim: I don't think that worked properly... better read all the instructions
[23:17] <Desmond> hey anyone know a slack support irc?
[23:17] <Desmond>  !slack
[23:17] <Desmond> !irc
[23:17] <nosrednaekim> slackware?
[23:17] <Desmond> yea
[23:17] <Desmond> lol
[23:17] <Desmond> im dualing
[23:18] <Desmond> kubuntu and slack
[23:18] <Desmond> and slack isnt a start-up choice
[23:19] <genii> Avgustin_: If you ran pppoeconf and it finished fine, you are now connected
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> Desmond: #slackware would be a channel I'd guess
[23:21] <Avgustin_> genii> not... i can't remote to any syte
[23:22] <chisiyuan> i hope jim has made it
[23:22] <Avgustin_> genii> do you speak russian? =)) but i bad know the english))
[23:24] <genii> Avgustin_: No, I do not speak russian :)              Try at command line: sudo pppoe-start
[23:24] <Walzmyn> where do i edit the grub boot list?
[23:24] <Avgustin_> genii> ok, i try
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> Walzmyn- /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:25] <Walzmyn> Dragnslcr, thanks
[23:27] <jim> There is a bug in open office
[23:27] <LimCore> jim: there are tons of bugs
[23:27] <LimCore> jim: report it
[23:28] <jim> is there anyway i can get it working properly ?
[23:28] <Walzmyn> in Grub.lst I don't see any "default" option, I assumn the first one will be excuted as default?
[23:28] <LimCore> report bug and wait... or try other version, or google work around
[23:29] <Walzmyn> For some reason, mine is trying to open the openvz kernel which is locking up
[23:29] <chisiyuan> jim: maybe you can reinstall it. Be careful.
[23:29] <Walzmyn> jim what's the bug?
[23:31] <genii> Avgustin_: At this time I cannot be of much assistance. Please try instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[23:38] <monkeypaw201> I installed Pidgin and tried connecting and it said Authorization Failed ... trying to connect to google chat... i checked online and went through troubleshooting... other IM accounts work.... any help?
[23:39] <James> greetings all
[23:39] <monkeypaw201> Hi James
[23:39] <GoldBug> ahh better
[23:39] <GoldBug> how are you
[23:39] <monkeypaw201> ;-|
[23:40] <GoldBug> sorry this is James laptop
[23:40] <monkeypaw201> fine, yourself? im just getting frustrated at Pidgin
[23:40] <GoldBug> well i just converted to kunbuntu today from XP
[23:40] <monkeypaw201> welcome!
[23:40] <monkeypaw201> congratz!
[23:40] <monkeypaw201> finally! :P
[23:40] <GoldBug> thanks^^
[23:40] <GoldBug> LOL
[23:40] <GoldBug> hey i am a gamer
[23:41] <GoldBug> so that has been the major reason for my not converting
[23:41] <monkeypaw201> you need help getting them running?
[23:41] <ScorpKing> i have about 40 packages that i want to copy to one directory from my local repo in /ubuntu/ .how can i use find and give it all the package names in one command so it will copy those to my home directory? will [ find -name "bash apt amarok konsole" | xargs cp /home/me/temp ] work?
[23:41] <GoldBug> but XP just got a virus and I don't have my disks for XP
[23:41] <GoldBug> so i thought what the hell
[23:41] <monkeypaw201> lol, you can easily re-install and run most games in ubuntu
[23:42] <GoldBug> so i downloaded it and installed it and now i am just trying to get everything configured properly
[23:42] <GoldBug> yea that is what i have been told and my reason for the conversion
[23:42] <monkeypaw201> scorpking, im not sure... sorry check in #ubuntu
[23:42] <Danish989>  Does anyone know how to fix the BusyBox problem yet? I installed Hardy Heron using WUBI inside Windows XP two days ago, and out of nowhere, now it refuses to boot and I'm stuck at the Busy Box command line ..... does anyone know what to do?
[23:42] <GoldBug> worse case senario i figgure i can just run xp in a VM
[23:42] <ScorpKing> monkeypaw201: np i'm reading the manual ;)
[23:43] <GoldBug> but right now i am having the WORSE time getting my video drivers to work properly
[23:43] <GoldBug> i have a 8600gts
[23:43] <monkeypaw201> easy
[23:43] <monkeypaw201> look in the upper-right corner
[23:43] <GoldBug> and my desktop is set to 640 by 48
[23:43] <monkeypaw201> next to the clock
[23:43] <Ketrel> If I want to chmod to be executable for all, I can do +x or 0111. If I wanted ot make it just executable for say group, I could do 0010, but how would I do that int he +x type syntax?
[23:44] <monkeypaw201> you should see something similar to an electronic card... just click on it and it should list all in-active / not-working drivers
[23:44] <SlimeyPete> g+x
[23:44] <GoldBug> k monkey i have the hardware driver up
[23:44] <Ketrel> SlimeyPete, so g is for group, what are the other two?
[23:44] <monkeypaw201> ok, now just click the driver and apply/install/ or something and it will go and install the linux driver for you
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> Ketrel: a, g, u and o if I remember correctly - all, group, user, owner
[23:45] <Ketrel> danke danke
[23:45] <GoldBug> did that already and that is what caused my desktop to go from 12X10 to 640X480
[23:45] <Dragnslcr> Ketrel- u is user, g is group, o is other
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> ah, other
[23:45] <SlimeyPete> makes more sense
[23:46] <monkeypaw201> hmm... what version area you running??
[23:46] <Ketrel> thanks :)
[23:46] <GoldBug> 8.04
[23:46] <GoldBug> the stable kde
[23:46] <GoldBug> 4
[23:46] <monkeypaw201> ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu?
[23:46] <GoldBug> kunbuntu
[23:47] <GoldBug> kubuntu*
[23:47] <darky> most users of this chanel are running kubuntu
[23:47] <monkeypaw201> hmm... strange im not really sure...
[23:47] <monkeypaw201> darky, i know.. im just making sure
[23:47] <GoldBug> Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron)
[23:47] <monkeypaw201> sorry Bug, im not sure
[23:47] <darky> did anyone try to install nvidia-glx-new for his geforce?
[23:47] <GoldBug> :'(
[23:48] <darky> because it doesn't work on my computer
[23:48] <darky> I'm running KDE4
[23:49] <BluesKaj> monkeypaw201, open konqueror and click on help / about kde
[23:51] <goldbug_> ok i am here on the kubutu box now
[23:51] <goldbug_> hmm
[23:52] <darky> can you help me with my graphic chipset please?
[23:52] <darky> Nvidia Geforce FX 5
[23:52] <goldbug_> hmm i am running an 8600gts
[23:52] <goldbug_> heh hopefully the solution can fix both of our problems
[23:52] <darky> with the appropriate driver or kubuntu's default driver?
[23:53] <goldbug_> heh the default driver worked better then the one that it downloaded for me
[23:53] <manux> 7list
[23:56] <darky> The one I downloaded doesn't work
[23:56] <darky> it shows wierd things, the screen turns to different collors
[23:56] <goldbug_> OH i should prolly mention that i am running the 64 bit version
[23:57] <VousDeux> hello: I just installed all of the updates, but now when I try to launch VMware I get this error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl
[23:57] <VousDeux> any thoughts?
[23:58] <darky> ah in my case I am running the i686