[07:58] <LoudMouthMan> Nik Butler is a 30 something Open Source Evangelist Living and Working in the South Of England and promoting OpenSource since the turn of the century. He has been promoting Ubuntu through BNI, FSB and his own Clients and regularly seeks new opportunities to increase awareness of Ubuntu as a Linux Desktop for Human Beings.His future plans include increasing awareness of Ubuntu to the many local SME IT Support companies in the
[07:58] <LoudMouthMan>  South of  England. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NikButler
[07:58] <cr3> dsas: cool! lp is a difficult one to support
[07:59] <popey> LoudMouthMan: ++++
[07:59] <mako> GazzaK: i don't think that image helps your case
[07:59] <mako> GazzaK: ;)
[07:59] <GazzaK> mako, i'll never make an artist
[07:59] <sabdfl> mehdi?
[07:59] <theCore> +1 GazzaK for being a incredible member for the Support Team
[07:59] <GazzaK> and popey will never make a model
[07:59] <dsas> +1 for LoudMouthMan he's basically the  ubuntu-uk lead
[07:59] <GazzaK> Nik Butler ( LoudMouthMan ) is a very helpful person, I have been helped on many occasions by him, and he is always in the #ubuntu-uk channel.  both him and popey were at the linuxworld2006 expo and made everyone feel very welcomed.  yet again, as my show of being a total fanboy I made this - http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9863/nikmemberwq3.jpg - (work safe image)
[07:59] <popey> +1 for LoudMouthMan for organising the expo stand
[07:59] <NeilSimmons> LMM get a +1 from me, coz I can't give him a +10.
[08:00] <sabdfl> Nik, awesome personal wiki page
[08:00] <LoudMouthMan> thanks . sabdfl.
[08:00] <NeilSimmons> He's been my personal introduction to FOSS and especially Linux since 1999 and as helped countless small business users get the benefits of Linux as well.
[08:01] <sabdfl> LoudMouthMan: do you do much online, or mostly in-person advocacy?
[08:01] <sabdfl> and what's the BCF?
[08:01] <LoudMouthMan> sabfl its moslty been in person advocacy my online persona has kicked off since Jono kicked me into touch. but support tickets wise not so much as popey
[08:01] <LoudMouthMan> British Computer Fairs,
[08:02] <mako> LoudMouthMan: how long have you been involved in ubuntu?
[08:02] <LoudMouthMan> oh and Business Network International .
[08:02] <GazzaK> and he also sorted out Polo Shirts for the linuxworld expo :-)
[08:02] <LoudMouthMan> mako when did it first get on the magazine covers in the uK ? probably over a year ogo .
[08:02] <mako> LoudMouthMan: great :)
[08:02] <LoudMouthMan> theres a Southafrican travel compny called Ehtosmarketing who make most use of it!
[08:03] <mako> anyone else involved in the UK team who wants to give a testimonial
[08:03] <elmo> mako: I think GazzaK and popey did?  or do you want some more?
[08:03] <sabdfl> ok, +1 from me for LoudMouthMan on the back of strong advocacy over time
[08:03] <elmo> +1 from me too
[08:03] <sabdfl> LWE was awesome this year, thanks LoudMouthMan
[08:03] <GazzaK> \o/ yay for popey \o/ yay for LoudMouthMan
[08:04] <somerville32> :D
[08:04] <LoudMouthMan> sabdfl well it was the team but thanks.
[08:04] <somerville32> Can I go next? :]
[08:04] <elmo> mruiz would like to go next, if possible
[08:04] <mruiz> o/ please
[08:04] <EmxBA> can someone consider my application? i don't have whole day :(
[08:04] <GazzaK> thanks sabdfl you made my fanboyish behaviour all worthwhile :-)
[08:04] <sabdfl> LoudMouthMan: what's your LP nick?
[08:04] <mruiz> elmo, now?
[08:04] <sabdfl> can't see you in the applicants list of ubuntumembers
[08:04] <LoudMouthMan> it should be NIkButler on Launchpad and its loudmouthmanonline
[08:04] <LoudMouthMan> sabdlf I wasnt sure if you join that before or after approval ?
[08:05] <elmo> LoudMouthMan: it seems to be 'reducedhackers' ?
[08:05] <elmo> LoudMouthMan: before, please do it now
[08:05] <LoudMouthMan> will do
[08:05] <elmo> mruiz: go
[08:05] <elmo> EmxBA: sorry, we're going as fast as we can
[08:05] <sabdfl> mruiz: go go go!
[08:05] <EmxBA> elmo: ok, I'm waiting in line :)
[08:05] <elmo> EmxBA: you'll be next
[08:06] <mruiz> Hello. My name is Miguel Ruiz, Chilean Ubuntu LoCo member. I'm 23 years old. Currently I'm studying computer science. I've been using Linux since approximately May 2002. I discovered Ubuntu in January 2005 with Warty Warthog, and it became my favourite distro.
[08:06] <mako> yeah, +1 for me too
[08:06] <mako> for LoudMouthMan
[08:06] <mako> elmo: i was looking for something from someobdy else, if it was other there
[08:06] <sabdfl> mruiz: how can we improve the consistency of LoCo team websites?
[08:06] <LoudMouthMan> elmo changed to nikbutler is that okay ?
[08:06] <sabdfl> LoudMouthMan: np
[08:06] <elmo> LoudMouthMan: whatever you like is fine
[08:07] <mruiz> My personal wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MiguelRuiz  and my LP account:  https://launchpad.net/people/mruiz
[08:07] <LoudMouthMan> thanks guys, cheers everyone .
[08:07] <MagicFab> mruiz, is also proposing a spanish planet - we're talking about coordinating all the spanish/latinam. locos
[08:07] <sabdfl> LoudMouthMan: you need to go to launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers and apply there
[08:07] <mruiz> sabdfl: you can visit http://www.ubuntu-cl.org
[08:07] <sabdfl> mruiz: i like that site
[08:08] <sabdfl> i was asking how you think we can make it easier to get all the loco teams tohave really good sites, like this
[08:08] <sabdfl> can we provide more standard services?
[08:08] <mruiz> sabdfl: yes, I think this is a good idea
[08:09] <LoudMouthMan> sabdlf: also now done , thanks
[08:09] <sabdfl> mruiz: i'm really pleased to see contributions across quite a wide variety of places - bugs, loco, translations etc
[08:09] <sabdfl> thats very cool
[08:09] <Yann2> (providing templates would help, imho)
[08:09] <sabdfl> you started using ubuntu in Jan 05, when did you become active in the community?
[08:09] <mruiz> yes, I share our templates with others LoCo teams
[08:09] <EmxBA> also some forum (SMF, vbulletin or punbb) or joomla and other CMS templates would be helpful...?
[08:10] <sabdfl> mruiz: when did you become an active contributor, as opposed to a user?
[08:11] <mruiz> sabdfl: I started my work with Ubuntu community during last year, when we started in Chile our LoCo
[08:11] <sabdfl> ok, +1 from me on the back of LoCo team leadership and website contributions
[08:11] <mruiz> sabdfl, remember newz2000 vote and opinion
[08:12] <somerville32> :]
[08:12] <elmo> +1 from me too
[08:12] <mako> +1 from me as well, for the sae reasons as mark
[08:12] <somerville32> Sweet!
[08:12] <sabdfl> super - welcome aboard, mruiz, and thank you for your contributions so far!
[08:12] <somerville32> Welcome mruiz! :)
[08:12] <elmo> EmxBA: you're up
[08:12] <mruiz> thanks!
[08:12] <EmxBA> ok
[08:12] <EmxBA> my launchpad account is on https://launchpad.net/people/emxba translations on https://translations.launchpad.net/people/emxba/+translations Wiki page has some information about me - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmirBeganovic. I've made some redesigned Edubuntu logos - look at http://ubuntu.juliux.de/stuff/emx/edubuntu/ I've had Fujitsu Siemens Amilo L6825 notebook and tested it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuAmiloL6825 . I've founde
[08:12] <EmxBA> d Bosnian Team (https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-ba) - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BosnianTeam - there's mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ba) and IRC channel (#ubuntu-ba on FreeNode) already, with descriptive wiki page too. Also reviewed and promoted Edubuntu and Ubuntu in 3 articles in local IT magazine (http://www.info.ba , http://www.info.ba/tekst.aspx?id=6361) and inside the regional (Bosnian and Herzegovinian)
[08:12] <EmxBA>  LUG
[08:12] <sabdfl> mruiz: what's your launchpad id, and have you applied for ubuntumembers?
[08:12] <EmxBA> (enough for now) :)
[08:13] <sabdfl> emir - how long have you been an active contributor?
[08:13] <EmxBA> since june this year
[08:13] <sabdfl> and in which areas would you say you make the biggest contribution?
[08:13] <mruiz> sabdfl: my LP id is mruiz
[08:14] <EmxBA> and used ubuntu since last year
[08:14] <sabdfl> mruiz: i don't see you in the list of people applying for ubuntumembership
[08:14] <mruiz> sabdfl: ok, I will do it
[08:14] <EmxBA> sabdfl: translations, and loco team (that will be the primary thing in the future, yay)
[08:14] <sabdfl> launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join
[08:15] <sabdfl> ok, i see lots of translations, over several months
[08:15] <sabdfl> what's your top wishlist feature for rosetta?
[08:15] <mako> EmxBA: how many people are involved in the bosnian loco?
[08:15] <mruiz> sabdfl: done
[08:16] <mako> EmxBA: how long has the team been active?
[08:16] <EmxBA> just me for now, because it's started few weeks ago, mako
[08:16] <EmxBA> mako: the wiki page appeared on 30th october 2006
[08:16] <mako> EmxBA: nobody else has expressed interest?
[08:16] <EmxBA> wishlist....erm, dunno. rosetta is fine for me, sabdfl
[08:16] <mako> yet
[08:17] <sabdfl> EmxBA: +1 from me, on the basis of lots of translation contributions
[08:17] <mako> right, the translations work is very good
[08:18] <EmxBA> mako: did, on the Bosnian LUG forum (forum.linux.org.ba), but there are no members yet. the things that were the main was IRC (and IRC meeting were organized too), and maling list. the resources are there and there are members on the forum and i know lots of them (use ubuntu for a lot)
[08:18] <mako> i don't know how i feel about a loco team with only on member.. still a great way to do promotion but not much of a team ;)
[08:18] <EmxBA> i told you, it has opened recently...
[08:18] <mako> EmxBA: yes yes, i know :)
[08:19] <sabdfl> EmxBA: so you are saying there are bosnian contributors on irc, mailing list, just not signed up in LP team?
[08:19] <EmxBA> and i'm also translating ubuntu guide to bosnian - http://start.linux.org.ba/Ubuntu_priru%C4%8Dnik
[08:19] <EmxBA> sabdfl: yes, for now. but look e.g at http://launchpad.net/people/vljubovic, he has more than 2 million karma points
[08:19] <sabdfl> ok, i'm happy
[08:19] <mako> anyway, i'm happy with membership based on translations and advocacy work
[08:20] <EmxBA> or this guy https://launchpad.net/people/jklipic which lives in germany, or the bosnian https://launchpad.net/people/kenanh which helps a lot in the LUG too
[08:20] <somerville32> Can I go next? :]
[08:20] <mako> EmxBA: keep up the good work
[08:20] <mako> +1 for me
[08:20] <sabdfl> and ask vlubovic to apply for membership too, if he wants :-)
[08:20] <elmo> +1 from me too
[08:20] <sabdfl> superb, welcome aboard, EmxBA
[08:20] <EmxBA> just, I'm afraid that your opinions will change because of my years, assuming I'm the youngest active Ubuntu contributor
[08:21] <sabdfl> youth is no obstacle - contribution, and approach (CoC) count
[08:21] <sabdfl> hmm... should ask age on LP, so we would know who the oldest contributor is, too!
[08:21] <somerville32> :D
[08:21] <EmxBA> :)
[08:21] <mako> EmxBA: you're probably not the youngest
[08:21] <somerville32> Toby Smithe is 13 or 14
[08:21] <EmxBA> active contributor, mako?
[08:21] <mako> EmxBA: yes
[08:22] <elmo> somerville32: I think you're next
[08:22] <maxamillion> the founder of fluxbuntu is 19 and that impressed me :)
[08:22] <mako> i'm not sure, but we've approved membership applications from people who are 13 and 14 before
[08:22] <somerville32> elmo: Woot! Tell me when to go :)
[08:22] <elmo> somerville32: now..
[08:22] <sabdfl> EmxBA: you hear that? you're *old* :-)
[08:22] <elmo> somerville32: oh, wait, sorry
[08:22] <somerville32> Hi, My name is Cody A.W. Somerville (aka somerville32) and I'm here today to apply for membership to the Ubuntu Community. I believe I have made an active and sustained contribution to *Ubuntu over the last few months through Translation and Localisation to English (Ca), support to users on #xubuntu, regular bug triage and support on Launchpad, local advocacy, development and administration of the Xubuntu.org websit
[08:22] <somerville32> e, as an active contributor to the Xubuntu Welcome Centre project and specification, as a regular contributor to xubuntu-devel mailing list, as an xubuntu developmer, my presentation at Ubuntu Open Week, as an editor of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, as the Xubuntu Wiki maintainer, as an IRC op and contact for the Xubuntu namespace, packaging, community development, and much more with roughly 40hrs a week devoted to
[08:22] <somerville32> *Ubuntu. Looking to the future, I'd like to continue to contribute in the aforementioned areas and will work on improving the desktop experience, further development of the Xubuntu and Ubuntu community, documentation, contributing upstream, plus numerous other endeavors. One day I hope to become a Canonical employee so that I can work on Xubuntu full time! :]
[08:22] <elmo> oh, meh, never mind
[08:22] <somerville32> My Wiki page can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CodySomerville
[08:22] <somerville32> P.S. Big thanks to Jenda, Burgundavia, Seveas, Gloubiboulga, Vincent, Gnomefreak, Crimsun, TheSheep, Maxamillion, Jani, LjL, Tonyyarruso, dholbach (plus thanks for all the hugs), members of the Xubuntu and Ubuntu Community, and the numerous other individuals that I've had the pleasure of working with!! *hugs*
[08:22] <EmxBA> OK, thank you!!! I like Ubuntu more than I used to :)))
[08:22] <sabdfl> jonh_wendell: you might want to type up your intro ahead of time
[08:22] <elmo> jonh_wendell: sorry dude, missed you - you can go next
[08:22] <jenda> somerville32: is that a _threeliner_???
[08:23] <jenda>
[08:23] <maxamillion> <3 somerville32 !!!!
[08:23] <sabdfl> somerville32: really nice wiki page
[08:23] <sabdfl> those have become very, very good lately
[08:23] <somerville32> Thanks :]
[08:23] <EmxBA> thanks sabdfl, it was nice chatting with the person whose article I've written on Bosnian Wikipedia :))) and others from CC ;)
[08:24] <mako> i'm going to have to leave, at least for another 15 or so minutes, after somerville32
[08:24] <jenda> Cody somerville32 has been a great help with the Ubuntu Weekly News recently.
[08:24] <keeb> :P
[08:24] <mako> i need to meet with someone who is leaving in 40 minutes
[08:24] <sabdfl> somerville32: how's the xubuntu community shaping up?
[08:24] <jenda> (and some nice work with teh open week too)
[08:24] <somerville32> sabdfl: I think Feisty is going to be a big milestone for us. Community activity has seen a dramatic increase since the release of Dapper.
[08:24] <sabdfl> what's driving the community activity?
[08:25] <maxamillion> Cody Somerille is driving community activity
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> I'll wave a little somerville32 flag for work on UWN past and upcoming - he signed up for quite a few "beats" at our last mtg :)
[08:25] <jenda> PLUS he's from Fredericton, which was my home for a year, so I definitely think he deserves membership :)
[08:25] <mako> tonyyarusso: great
[08:25] <maxamillion> sabdfl: cody is probably the single most active part of xubuntu and does a great deal of organization for the rest of us to have direction in our contributions
[08:25] <theCore> sabdfl: probably, digg.com :)
[08:26] <sabdfl> translation is all recent for somerville32
[08:26] <mako> somerville32: great wikipage
[08:26] <somerville32> Thanks :)
[08:26] <sabdfl> cody, are you actively packaging much?
[08:26] <somerville32> sabdfl: Yes.
[08:26] <sabdfl> who's sponsoring your uploads?
[08:27] <somerville32> Crimsun has agreed to be my mentor and sponsor.
[08:27] <imbrandon> sabdfl: yes he is a regular in the #ubuntu-motu channel soaking up as much as possible and even helping other motu hopefulls where he can
[08:27] <elmo> how many xubuntu folks are core-dev atm?
[08:27] <sabdfl> somerville32: when would you say you became an active contributor, rather than user?
[08:27] <somerville32> elmo: A handful, I would guess.
[08:28] <somerville32> sabdfl: Ever since I started using Ubuntu, I've helped out and what not in IRC. However, I would say that I started to take an active role as a contributor 3-4 months ago.
[08:28] <EmxBA> can someone give us, new members, a FAQ list or wiki page about things that should be done after the approval process? irc cloak and mail on ubuntu.com comes when?
[08:29] <sabdfl> ok, +1 from me on the basis of a wide variety of contributions over several months
[08:29] <MacSlow> imbrandon, greetings btw
[08:29] <mako> somerville32: yeah, there is a wide range of contributions and good documentation
[08:29] <elmo> +1, same
[08:29] <EmxBA> and membership on ubuntumembers is 2 years?
[08:29] <imbrandon> moins MacSlow
[08:29] <mako> +! for me
[08:29] <mako> +1 even
[08:30] <sabdfl> ok, welcome aboard somerville32
[08:30] <somerville32> Thanks. :)
[08:30] <mako> anyway, i need to go offline for a second
[08:30] <sabdfl> will update LP now
[08:30] <maxamillion> w00t for somerville32 !!!!!
[08:30] <mako> i'll be back ASAP
[08:30] <elmo> jonh_wendell: you're up, go
[08:30] <jonh_wendell> Hello. My name is Jonh Wendell. I'm a 27 years old programmer by profession. I started using Linux in 1997 at School. I like to contribute with FOSS. It's very exciting. Mainly coding. I really like to code! Triaging bugs is a very cool activity too.
[08:30] <jonh_wendell> My wikipage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonhWendell
[08:30] <jonh_wendell> My LP id: https://launchpad.net/people/wendell
[08:31] <sabdfl> jonh_wendell: you look really young for your age!
[08:31] <jonh_wendell> haha
[08:31] <sabdfl> ah, your son :-)
[08:31] <sabdfl> where would you say you make the biggest contribution to the project?
[08:31] <seb128> jonh_wendell is doing a rocking work on desktop bugs, on launchpad and also working with upstream
[08:31] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, translation and bug triage, i guess
[08:31] <sabdfl> i see lots of bug work, which is really great
[08:32] <sabdfl> where in brazil do you live?
[08:32] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, Macei - AL
[08:32] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, Water paradise, a lot of wonderful beaches
[08:32] <sabdfl> do you have any specific suggestions about how we can help the brazilian community?
[08:32] <apokryphos> EmxBA: for a cloak ping Seveas, when he's around
[08:33] <sabdfl> EmxBA: email address comes automatically, with a short delay
[08:33] <sabdfl> @ubuntu.com will forward to your LP preferred email
[08:33] <EmxBA> ok, my mail is available on launchpad page
[08:33] <EmxBA> ok
[08:33] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, almost everything is nice in ubuntu-br
[08:33] <sabdfl> who would you describe as the strongest leaders of the ubuntu-br community?
[08:33] <elmo> where are the usual ubuntu-br  cheering contingent?
[08:34] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, maybe we need a change
[08:34] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, because there are some personal issues involved...
[08:35] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, but i can't tell much because i'm relative novice on ubuntu-br
[08:35] <sabdfl> jonh_wendell: ok. you can encourage folks to talk those issues through in a forum or irc or mailing list, and raise any disputes to CC if needed. how long would you say you have been an active contributor?
[08:36] <jonh_wendell> sabdfl, in Ubuntu, since July, 2006, when i finished my university
[08:36] <sabdfl> while waiting, can we see who's next? who's still in the queue? time running short here
[08:36] <sabdfl> jonh_wendell: +1 from me, mainly on bug triage and advocacy
[08:37] <jonh_wendell> elmo, translation, documentation really makes difference on our community
[08:37] <sabdfl> i must say i think the brazilian community is amazing
[08:37] <sabdfl> i know there are some tensions
[08:37] <dholbach> I'm very happy with jonh_wendell too!
[08:37] <sabdfl> i'd like to see those resolved - but they don't seem to be slowing things down
[08:37] <jonh_wendell> thanks, seb128, dholbach
[08:38] <sabdfl> elmo?
[08:38] <elmo> +1
[08:38] <sabdfl> welcome aboard - jonh_wendell!
[08:38] <sabdfl> LP updated
[08:38] <seb128> jonh_wendell: congrat!
[08:38] <elmo> jderose: I think you're next
[08:38] <jonh_wendell> thanks!!!!
[08:38] <elmo> go
[08:38] <jderose> Hello everyone! My name is Jason DeRose.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JasonGerardDerose https://launchpad.net/people/jderose
[08:38] <jderose> After talking to seb128, I think I might have given more weight to my upstream work than I should have (as far as Ubuntu member candidacy is concerned), but I guess it doesn't hurt to try. ;) slomo might have had a chance to look at my KungFu package. A few people might remember me from DebConf in Brazil...
[08:39] <jderose> I wrote KungFu, a Python-gtk-gstreamer based DVD ripper, which I have packaged for Ubuntu and hope to get included in Feisty. I'm working on implementing full DVD support under gstreamer0.10, which I might finish in time to be included in Feisty. My development work has generally been upstream, but I wish to use my upstream experience, particularly with GStreamer, to help improve Ubuntu where I can. And once I am less
[08:40] <elmo> jderose: how long have you been contributing to ubuntu?
[08:41] <jderose> my first packaging was about 10 months ago, fuplayer...
[08:41] <sabdfl> how many packages have you worked on?
[08:42] <jderose> the past 3 moths or so i've been a lot more active.... i've packaged two apps i've written, fuplayer and kungfu.
[08:42] <sabdfl> jderose: what do you think of pulse audio?
[08:42] <sabdfl> are you active on mailing lists, irc, or forums?
[08:43] <elmo> oh, and who's been sponsoring your packages?
[08:43] <seb128> the few bugs I've read from jderose are good quality ones (testcases attached to the bugs and a gstreamer patch by example), he didn't work on a lot of bugs for now though
[08:43] <jderose> i don't know a great deal about it yet, but is looks very interesting.  there is heating discussion on gst-devel lately  about audio server, mostly over how to address pro-audio issues.
[08:43] <jderose> slomo is going to sponsor kungfu.
[08:44] <sabdfl> jderose: i really like the quality of your contribution, but i think we normally look for a longer period of active participation
[08:44] <sabdfl> would it be reasonable to say "keep going, come back in a month or two"?
[08:44] <jderose> sabdfl: fair enough. i can apply again later if that is the consensus.
[08:44] <jderose> sabdfl: sure.  ;)
[08:44] <sabdfl> it seems you do very crisp work, which is nice
[08:44] <sabdfl> sorry about the LONG delay in getting to you :-)
[08:45] <sabdfl> sitting through a full CC meeting should earn major karma points
[08:45] <sabdfl> who's next?
[08:45] <jderose> sabdlf: no worries, it was a learning experience.  ;)  how long should i wait before trying to apply again?
[08:45] <sabdfl> tonyyarusso: go go go!
[08:45] <sabdfl> jderose: chat with seb128 and dholbach
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> Hello, I am Tony Yarusso.  I've been most present on IRC, providing (and receiving) user support, as a member of the New User Network, Canadian Team, and most recently, IRC Team, among others.  With the NUN I gave a class on GPG, and helped moderate for Open Week.  I also dabble in documentation and marketing, and have begun looking into coordinating a translation, specifications, and helping out with the UWN.
[08:45] <sabdfl> when they are happy, come again
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> I also spend time on mailing lists and answering support queries in LP.  More detailed information can be found on the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TonyYarusso) and LP (https://launchpad.net/people/tonyyarusso).
[08:46] <sabdfl> how's the NUN going?
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> A little of each.
[08:46] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso is a VERY helpful user on IRC and a recent addition to our Operator team
[08:46] <keeb> tonyyarusso: is a very cool guy, always there to help.
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> When we have stuff, it's awesome.  Although, sometimes we lack instructors for classes - the one I did was a pretty last minute fill in.
[08:46] <lophylap> tonyyarusso is an awesome addition to the -ca loco team :)
[08:47] <keeb> I have seen him work in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic, always very helpful, very knowledgeable, and very polite
[08:47] <PFA> he is the only person who is actually patient enough to sort through my numerous and various computer woes
[08:47] <PFA> hi lophyte :)
[08:47] <sabdfl> tonyyarusso: are you often acting as an OP on IRC?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> For NUN stuff, I think it would be great if we could expand our base of instructors.  A lot of the stuff we do is pretty basic, but people hear "teach" and aren't sure if they're qualified.
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> sabdfl: Every day for the last what, week and a half now?
[08:48] <apokryphos> he's been doing well :)
[08:48] <sabdfl> tonyyarusso: how long have you been an active contributor?
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> sabdfl: Well, I started giving answers that others had given me on IRC pretty much the same week I started.  It was probably four months or so in (after aug 05) that the amount I could give back was reaching a critical mass
[08:49] <sabdfl> ok, +1 from me for a sustained and significant contribution, mostly in user support
[08:49] <Burgwork> tonyyarusso has been an active contributor to the the UWN and the Canadian Team
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> Beyond IRC, other things started falling into place around this time - Feb last year.
[08:50] <nalioth> tonyyarusso is an asset to the Ubuntu community
[08:50] <somerville32> +1 for tonyyarusso !
[08:50] <PFA> tonyyarusso is the king of canada
[08:50] <keeb> lol
[08:50] <PFA> srsly, he is mega awesome and all kinds of things.
[08:50] <elmo> +1 from me too
[08:51] <apokryphos> congrats, tonyyarusso 8)
[08:51] <keeb> grats, tonyyarusso :)
[08:51] <PFA> yay!! ^^
[08:51] <theCore> congrats, tonyyarusso
[08:51] <PriceChild> well done
[08:51] <jenda> congrats tony :)
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> My long-term future project is looking at an Ojibwe translation, which I expect will be slow going, but super cool :)
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Thanks all!
[08:51] <jbailey> Eh, cool.
[08:52] <jbailey> (For those who don't know, Ojibwe is a fairly commonly spoken native language in Canada)
[08:53] <sabdfl> ok
[08:53] <sabdfl> wow
[08:53] <sabdfl> i think that's all members waiting?
[08:53] <sabdfl> two quick announcements from the CC, based on a call we had earlier
[08:54] <sabdfl> we have all approved the idea of creating a new position of "CC Secretary"
[08:54] <sabdfl> and we have invited Seveas to take that office as its founding title holder :-)
[08:54] <sabdfl> Seveas makes a huge contribution to ubuntu
[08:54] <sabdfl> especially to keeping the CC and other leading groups on track
[08:54] <LoudMouthMan> here here
[08:54] <sabdfl> and we think that's a job that deserves specific recognition
[08:55] <sabdfl> so, thank you seveas, and congratulations on the new position
[08:55] <sabdfl> also, we discussed expanding the CC
[08:55] <ajmitch> congratulations Seveas, if you're around still :)
[08:55] <sabdfl> i will make some nominations later this month, after discussing them with the folks concerned
[08:55] <sabdfl> ubuntumembers will have a series of votes to confirm those nominations or veto them
[08:56] <sabdfl> we will have two types of nominations
[08:56] <sabdfl> some will be straight up-or-down confirmation/veto votes
[08:56] <sabdfl> others will be more like a race, with m candidates where we will accept the top n into the CC
[08:56] <EmxBA> is there launchpad channel where i can talk to admins?
[08:56] <dsas_> EmxBA: #launchpad
[08:56] <sabdfl> cjwatson is going to step down from the CC after an amazing two and a half years of leadership there
[08:57] <kalon33> re all
[08:57] <sabdfl> he will stand for the TB next (ubuntu-dev and ubuntu-core-dev vote to confirm nominations to the TB)
[08:57] <sabdfl> that's all from me
[08:57] <sabdfl> closing comments, mako, elmo?
[08:57] <elmo> not from me
[08:57] <sabdfl> i think mako's stepped afk
[08:57] <PriceChild> Thanks CC :)
[08:57] <sabdfl> ok, THANK YOU everyone!
[08:58] <sabdfl> yowser, we got through a lot
[08:58] <sabdfl> in like 9 hours :-)
[08:58] <kalon33> finished all that keep me away from my computer, elmo I sended you a mail a few minutes ago because I have a problem
[08:58] <somerville32> haha
[08:58] <LoudMouthMan> cheers sabdfl . and congrats to all involved.
[08:58] <somerville32> :D
[08:58] <LoudMouthMan> wow I managed to be here and cook dinner for 3 at the same time !
[08:58] <kalon33> thanks sabdfl
[08:59] <kalon33> A question for someone who know that : Is ubuntu membering applies immediately ?
[09:03] <sabdfl> kalon33: it should yes
[09:04] <sabdfl> night all
[09:05] <kalon33> goodnight all !
[09:08] <mako> thanks everyone, sorry i couldn't be here for the entire thing
[09:09] <LoudMouthMan> cheers mako , thanks for your questions .. i had to clean up chopped onions from me hands to start responding
[09:10] <mako> LoudMouthMan: not a problem
[09:11] <mruiz> thanks mako, sabdfl
[09:12] <mruiz> goodnight
[09:50] <EmxBA> sabye
[09:50] <EmxBA> bye :)
[11:00] <Lure> !irclogs


[16:13] <jamespage> urm- did we all forget the time?
[16:14] <smb> Not all... :-P
[16:14] <jamespage> well not you at least smb
[16:14] <arosales> 1600 utc
[16:14] <arosales> according to the wiki
[16:14] <gaughen> o/
[16:14]  * jamespage is in a time warp
[16:14] <jamespage> that is like 15 minutes ago right?
[16:14] <smb> right
[16:14] <jamespage> lol
[16:14] <matsubara> yes
[16:14] <jamespage> oh-dear
[16:15] <matsubara> o/
[16:15] <rharper> \o
[16:15] <jamespage> adam_g, up for the chair?
[16:15] <smb> o/
[16:15] <rbasak> o\
[16:15] <arosales> o/
[16:15] <jamespage> (I can - have to run out for 5 mins now)
[16:15] <jamespage> can't rather
[16:15] <rharper> rbasak: heh
[16:16] <arosales> jamespage gaughen and zul are next on the list
[16:16] <arosales> gaughen, zul up for chairing?
[16:16]  * zul is sprinting
[16:16] <arosales> gaughen, ?
[16:16] <arosales> adam_g, ?
[16:16]  * gaughen avoids eye contact
[16:17] <arosales> gaughen, looking right at you :-)
[16:17] <arosales> gaughen, I can chair if you would like as I am next in the list
[16:17] <arosales> after zul
[16:17]  * gaughen is looking at her shoe. there's something on it
[16:17] <arosales> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:17] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 11 16:17:58 2014 UTC.  The chair is arosales. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:17] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:18] <arosales> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:18] <arosales> I don't see any actions from the precious meeting listed on the wiki
[16:18] <arosales> #topic Trusty Development
[16:19] <arosales> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[16:19] <arosales> So we are coming up on Feature Freeze
[16:19] <arosales> an important milestone
[16:19] <arosales> Debian Import Freeze has passed
[16:19] <arosales> and Beta 1 freeze is at the end of the month on the 27th
[16:20] <arosales> for FF make sure folks are getting their packages uploaded
[16:20] <arosales> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:20] <arosales> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-t-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:21] <arosales> Looking at the high bugs we have 4
[16:21]  * arosales will iterate though the high and any others folks ping with here
[16:21] <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mod-auth-mysql/+bug/1243076
[16:22] <arosales> no one assigned yet.
[16:22] <arosales> jamespage, are you currently looking after mysql?
[16:23] <rharper> arosales: jamespage said he had to step out at the beginning
[16:24] <arosales> ah the  5 min has elapsed I thought I could catch him
[16:24] <arosales> any other folks interested in looking at mysql?
[16:25] <arosales> #action gaughen follow up with jamespage on bug 1243076
[16:25] <meetingology> ACTION: gaughen follow up with jamespage on bug 1243076
[16:25] <arosales> thats right gaughen not off the hook ;-)
[16:25] <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1248283
[16:26] <arosales> dbus task still out
[16:26] <arosales> any folks able to take a look at the dbus task?
[16:26] <jamespage> back now
[16:27] <arosales> jamespage, bug 1243076
[16:27] <arosales> dbus anyone?
[16:27] <arosales> I think serge and rbasak had commented on the bug . . .
[16:27] <arosales> hallyn, that is
[16:28] <arosales> #action gaughen follow up on dbus task for  bug 1248283
[16:28] <meetingology> ACTION: gaughen follow up on dbus task for  bug 1248283
[16:28] <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/horizon/+bug/1259166
[16:29] <arosales> may be a bug for zul to take a look at after the sprint
[16:29] <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/1278897
[16:29] <arosales> jamespage, looks you just triagged this one
[16:30] <arosales> jamespage, any comments here for dovecot?
[16:30] <jamespage> yeah - I was looking at that
[16:30] <rbasak> I see bug 1248283 as mainly a juju issue. The dbus issue would be low priority, maybe just for upstream. juju can just not do that, and then won't have a problem.
[16:30] <jamespage> I think the prompt it not policy compliant - so its an easy fix
[16:30] <arosales> rbasak, can you comment in regards to dubs as it is confimred in that bug
[16:31] <arosales> rbasak, mark priority accordingly with the comment would be appreciated.
[16:31] <rbasak> arosales: I think my comment #17 already covers it
[16:31] <rbasak> I'll mark dbus low to make it clear though.
[16:31] <arosales> rbasak, importance still not set though
[16:32] <arosales> jamespage, ack on dovecot are you going to be delegating or taking a look?
[16:33] <arosales> #action jamespage to follow up on bug 1278897 (policy compliant)
[16:33] <meetingology> ACTION: jamespage to follow up on bug 1278897 (policy compliant)
[16:34] <arosales> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:34] <arosales> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-t/group/topic-t-servercloud-overview.html
[16:34] <arosales> tread line is well off
[16:35] <jamespage> arosales, I'll deal with it
[16:35] <arosales> jamespage, thanks
[16:35] <jamespage> arosales, no to worried about the trend line tbh
[16:35] <arosales> jamespage, you feel ok with the highs that are at 0%
[16:35] <arosales> perhaps not just updated?
[16:36] <arosales> ie https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-curtin
[16:36] <arosales> smoser, is the assignee, but I think he is not available atm.
[16:36] <jamespage> no
[16:37] <arosales> #action smoser update servercloud-1311-curtin bp
[16:37] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser update servercloud-1311-curtin bp
[16:37] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-openstack-charms
[16:37] <arosales> this one is yours jamespage
[16:38] <serue> re bug 1248283, i haven't been following it.  if someone wants me to take a fresh look from lxc pov please ping me later
[16:38] <jamespage> yeah - we have some catchup todo
[16:38] <jamespage> but that bp is back loaded on the cycle so not to worried
[16:38] <arosales> jamespage, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-ceph looks to be progressing but still in the red
[16:39] <jamespage> yeah - I'd hoped to have uploaded firefly by now but its delayed a bit
[16:39]  * arosales just looking at the high/essential red-progress BPs
[16:39] <jamespage> at which point some of those WI go DONE
[16:39] <arosales> jamespage, thanks for the update
[16:39] <arosales> serue, thanks for the post
[16:39] <arosales> serue, if hallyn was around I would ping him on that
[16:40] <arosales> #action hallyn follow up on 1248283 from an lxc pov, ping serue to coordinate
[16:40] <meetingology> ACTION: hallyn follow up on 1248283 from an lxc pov, ping serue to coordinate
[16:40] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-mysql-alternatives also in the red
[16:40] <arosales> another one assigned to you jamespage
[16:41] <arosales> and cloud-init
[16:41] <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-1311-cloud-init
[16:41] <arosales> #action smoser update cloud-init BP
[16:41] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser update cloud-init BP
[16:41] <arosales> those are the high/essential BPs in the red, any others folks want to bring up?
[16:42] <jamespage> mysql is progressing
[16:42] <jamespage> active/active option via percona xtradb cluster is in the NEW queue for trusty as of yesterday
[16:42] <jamespage> hope to get mysql-5.6 in the queue this week
[16:44] <arosales> jamespage, ah good to hear, thanks for the update
[16:44] <arosales> moving on
[16:44] <arosales> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:44] <caribou> arosales: nothing on my side this week, thanks
[16:44] <arosales> caribou, ok thanks
[16:45] <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (psivaa)
[16:45] <psivaa> Three types of failures:
[16:45] <psivaa> minimal install on amd64, reports about 5Mb more than it used to be
[16:45] <psivaa> test_mod_php failure on lamp server tests, i made an MP for the test to fix, that's awaiting server developers' approval
[16:45] <psivaa> test_tomcat_daemon failure due to lack of entropy
[16:45] <psivaa> sorry, hurriedly prepared list.
[16:46] <rbasak> I think the solution for entropy is just to give the test /dev/urandom instead.
[16:46] <psivaa> could somebody do that fix?
[16:46] <rbasak> If there is a bigger discussion to have around cloud instances and entropy, then perhaps that's a blueprint level discussion item, but no need to hold up tomcat
[16:47] <arosales> jamespage, you aware of minimal install gonig up on amd64?
[16:47] <rbasak> psivaa: where does the test come from? ie. where does it need to be fixed?
[16:47] <psivaa> rbasak: lp:ubuntu-test-cases/server
[16:47] <jamespage> arosales, no
[16:47] <jamespage> but I'm not going to worry about 5MB
[16:48] <arosales> jamespage, ack
[16:48] <psivaa> in that case we could increase the limit again in the server test cases
[16:48] <jamespage> psivaa, that's the first time this cycle right?
[16:48] <psivaa> rbasak: if you are working on that, could you do that also please. even if i do that it needs approval from you
[16:48] <psivaa> jamespage: yes
[16:49] <psivaa> started on 20140128 iirc
[16:49] <rbasak> psivaa: approved https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/mod_php-fix/+merge/204273
[16:49] <rbasak> Do I need to do anything else?
[16:49] <rbasak> Like actually merge it? Or will a bot do that?
[16:49] <psivaa> rbasak: no you need to do that for this
[16:50] <psivaa> i dont think there is a bot for the server test cases. but jamespage might know more
[16:50] <jamespage> no bot
[16:51] <psivaa> that's all from me though :)
[16:51] <arosales> so 5mb increased ok with jamespage
[16:52] <arosales> mege acked by rbasak for lamp server tests
[16:52] <arosales> and rbasak suggested a fix for entropy on the tomcat tests
[16:52] <arosales> psivaa, thanks
[16:52] <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:52] <smb> Hi
[16:53] <smb> So just a little to report ... not finial but I think I make same progress on 1268906
[16:53] <smb> bug ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:53] <smb> aaaargh
[16:53] <smb> bug 1268906
[16:54] <smb> Otherwise in non-kernel related news xcp/xapi will be gone in Trusty
[16:55] <smb> Thats all
[16:55] <smb> ..
[16:55] <arosales> thanks smb
[16:55] <arosales> I don't see any oustanding actions of feedback needed from server in bug 1268906
[16:55] <arosales> smb, correct?
[16:56] <smb> arosales, no, I can reproduce it locally
[16:56] <arosales> ah :-/
[16:56] <arosales> smb, ok thanks for the update
[16:57] <arosales> smb, sorry I read that as you "can't" reproduce locally. I see that you _can_ reproduce locally :-)
[16:57] <arosales> in any case thanks smb
[16:57] <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:57] <smb> arosales, Yes we can, I mean I
[16:57] <smb> ;)
[16:57] <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
[16:59] <arosales> I take it no questions for rbasak
[16:59] <arosales> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:59] <arosales> I think some folks were at FOSDOM
[16:59] <rbasak> FOSDEM went well.
[17:00] <arosales> and SCALE12x is coming up
[17:00] <rbasak> Big audience for marcoceppi's juju talk
[17:00] <rbasak> cfgmgmtcamp was after FOSDEM. I hear that went really well too.
[17:01] <rbasak> Linaro Connect is coming up. In Macao, 3-7 March. Unfortunately I can't make it.
[17:01] <arosales> good to hear re juju talk :-)
[17:01] <arosales> ya I heard good thing about config mgmt camp
[17:01] <arosales> any other events
[17:02] <arosales> at the top of the hour
[17:02] <arosales> #topic Open Discussion
[17:02] <arosales> any other itesm?
[17:02] <arosales> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[17:02] <arosales> NEXT MEETING: Tuesday 2014-02-18 at 1600 UTC
[17:02] <arosales> thanks everyone for attending and participating
[17:02] <arosales> #endmeeting
[17:02] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 17:03:01 2014 UTC.
[17:02] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-11-16.17.moin.txt
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 11 17:03:11 2014 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:03] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Trusty
[17:03] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #
[17:03] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> #       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:03] <cking> o/
[17:03] <kamal> o/
[17:03] <ppisati> o/
[17:03] <ogasawara> o/
[17:03] <sforshee> o/
[17:03] <bjf> o/
[17:03] <henrix> o/
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:04] <ppisati> Nothing new to report.
[17:04] <ppisati> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:04] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:04] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:04] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-t/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:04] <ogasawara> || apw       || core-1311-kernel                || 5 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||           || core-1311-cross-compilation     || 2 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||           || core-1311-hwe-plans             || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || bjf       || core-1311-dmraid2mdadm          || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || core-1311-kernel                || 3 work items ||
[17:04] <rtg> o/
[17:04] <ogasawara> ||           || client-1311-xorg-general        || 1 work item  ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> || smb       || servercloud-1311-openstack-virt || 6 work items ||
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Trusty Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:05] <ogasawara> We have uploaded the 3.13.0-8.27 Trusty kernel to the archive which
[17:05] <ogasawara> pulled in the latest v3.13.2 upstream stable updates.  We are also
[17:05] <ogasawara> starting to work on opening up our first v3.14 rebase which will be
[17:05] <ogasawara> available from our ubuntu-trusty unstable branch.
[17:05] <ogasawara> I want to also point out that the proposal for a 12.04.5 point release
[17:05] <ogasawara> appears to have widespread support.  This 5th point release for Precise
[17:05] <ogasawara> will provide the linux-lts-trusty kernel in 12.04.
[17:05] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2014-February/038042.html
[17:05] <ogasawara> -----
[17:05] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:05] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[17:05] <ogasawara> Thurs Feb 20 - Feature Freeze (~1 weeks away)
[17:05] <ogasawara> Thurs Feb 27 - Beta 1 (~2 weeks away)
[17:05] <ogasawara> Thurs Mar 27 - Final Beta (~6 weeks away)
[17:05] <ogasawara> Thurs Apr 03 - Kernel Freeze (~7 weeks away)
[17:05] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:05] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:05] <jsalisbury> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:05] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:06] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Saucy/Quantal/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/sconklin)
[17:06] <bjf> Status for the main kernels, until today (Nov. 26):
[17:06] <bjf>   *   Lucid - Testing
[17:06] <bjf>   * Precise - Testing
[17:06] <bjf>   * Quantal - Testing
[17:06] <bjf>   *   Saucy - Testing
[17:06] <bjf>
[17:06] <bjf> We are in a holding pattern waiting to see if any regressions show up that would cause us
[17:06] <bjf> to respin before the 12.04.4 release goes out.
[17:06] <bjf>
[17:06] <bjf> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:06] <bjf>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:06] <bjf> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:06] <bjf>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:06] <bjf>
[17:06] <bjf> ..
[17:07] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:07] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:07] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:07] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 17:07:34 2014 UTC.
[17:07] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-11-17.03.moin.txt
[17:07] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury!   (long meeting)
[17:07] <kamal> ;-)


[16:31] <Kilos> guten vorabend
[18:03] <thatgraemeguy> moo
[18:09] <inetpro> meh
[18:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight and have a good week
[18:41] <inetpro> good night oom Kilos


[04:37] <barrydk> More almal
[05:23] <Kilos> morning all
[05:24] <Kilos> good evening tumbleweed  all good there?
[05:29] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[05:29] <Tonberry> hi
[05:57] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[05:59] <pieter2627> morning Kilos
[06:17] <plustwo> good morning everyone
[06:44] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:44] <inetpro> oh and hi plustwo as well
[06:48] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[06:50] <superfly> morning everyone
[06:50]  * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:57] <Jacques_Stry> Sorry for being away so long - was on vacation on a game farm(no signal)
[06:59] <superfly> nice !
[07:01] <Jacques_Stry> Was nice - except being offline for 2 weeks >.<
[07:48] <Squirm> Morning
[08:29] <Kilos> hmm... loadshedding done for the day hopefully
[08:29] <Jacques_Stry> haha i'm probably going off in 30 min
[08:30] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[08:30] <Kilos> what a pain
[08:30] <Jacques_Stry> Hi Kilos :)
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> 2 Days till 15.04 Release Candidate
[08:34] <Kilos> im very tempted to try it
[08:34] <Jacques_Stry> Same
[08:35]  * pieter2627 wonders how many will try it
[08:35] <Kilos> the main things are systemd and mir right?
[08:35] <Kilos> maybe ill go kde and see what plasma5 is like
[08:35] <Jacques_Stry> I'm especially cautious of MIR
[08:36] <Kilos> is kde also going to be using it?
[08:36] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think so
[08:36] <Kilos> oh isnt the x thing flavour wide
[08:40] <Jacques_Stry> Last time i heard Kubuntu was still wondering whether to go wayland or mir
[08:40] <Kilos> ah
[08:41] <Kilos> im trying to think what you havent done Jacques_Stry  with you unanounced holiday
[08:41] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[08:42] <Kilos> lol
[08:42] <Jacques_Stry> Yea it was a bit of a impulsive decision
[08:42] <Kilos> oh you guys blog is at
[08:42] <Kilos> Maaz  padroni.blog
[08:42] <Maaz> http://compunation.co.za/
[08:43] <Kilos> its more like a help thing
[08:43] <Kilos> some cool advice there
[08:43] <Jacques_Stry> Yea I still have a few things I have to add
[08:44] <Kilos> has inetpro  said anything today?
[08:44] <Jacques_Stry> Not that I know of
[08:45] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[08:45] <Kilos> we are lucky at night an old hand, hibana, watches him at night
[08:45] <Jacques_Stry> Haha
[08:45] <Kilos> ohi inetpro  koud in die oggend ne
[08:46] <Kilos> inetpro  did you go see the conversation of last night on locoteams
[08:49] <Kilos> from about 20.31
[08:50] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[08:50] <inetpro> you'll get yourself in trouble very quickly
[08:51] <Kilos> nono we will do it legally
[08:51] <inetpro> just be patient and the the fly handle it
[08:51] <Kilos> ive applied
[08:51] <inetpro> let the fly*
[08:51] <inetpro> jaja, and what exactly did you fill in... don't just do that... first discuss!
[08:52] <Kilos> ok let me try find that thing again
[08:52] <inetpro> too late now
[08:52] <Kilos> well we dont need a domain name right?
[08:53] <inetpro> you see, there we go again
[08:53] <inetpro> Maaz: assumption
[08:53] <Maaz> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts, but when made by intelligent people is often proven to be true.
[08:53] <Kilos> so i asked for permision to use the buntu logo on a site
[08:53] <Kilos> oh do we?
[08:54] <Kilos> oh my
[08:54] <Kilos> well DalekSec  is here so he can advise what they say
[08:54] <Kilos> hi DalekSec
[08:55] <Kilos> oi its 4 am there
[08:57] <Kilos> lol inetpro  i couldnt first discuss, you went to bed
[08:57] <inetpro> Kilos: no, you must learn to find that pause button of yours
[08:58]  * Kilos looks
[08:58] <Kilos> oh thats the broken one
[08:58] <inetpro> fix it, because I know you have one
[08:59] <Kilos> lol
[08:59] <inetpro> you've often used it even
[09:03] <inetpro> Kilos: you press your pause button and an automatic message comes up as follows, "thanks $who, I will discuss with our team and get back to you asap"
[09:03] <Kilos> aha
[09:04] <inetpro> now please go fix your remote :-)
[09:04] <Kilos> ok will do
[09:17] <Kilos> hi SDCDev
[09:19] <SDCDev> hey Kilos
[09:21] <Kilos> hi dan
[09:21] <Kilos> ai!
[09:21] <Kilos> danfowler
[09:22] <danfowler> yo
[09:58] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:03] <Jacques_Stry> Hmmmm...
[10:04] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[10:04] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[10:05] <Jacques_Stry> Good thing Maaz doesn't use urban dictionary
[10:05] <Kilos> lol
[10:13] <inetpro_> hmm...
[10:15] <Kilos> wb inetpro  and other hoppers
[11:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[11:26] <Jacques_Stry> irc giving prob's?
[11:26] <inetpro> ty Kilos
[11:27] <inetpro> netsplits messing us around
[11:27] <Kilos> ai!
[11:28] <Kilos> maybe i must go back to drive repairs and data recovery
[11:28] <inetpro> the bad peeps having fun again
[11:28] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[11:28] <inetpro> where is padroni when we need him?
[11:29] <Kilos> he has gone for a job interview today
[11:40] <Kilos> actuallinetthats a good idea, rmember to ask him if he can trace and stop that kinda bad peeps
[11:42] <Kilos> will be trickt i think, dont they use other peeps pcs to cause the prob
[11:42] <Kilos> tricky
[11:42] <Kilos> oh my now spcae bar playing up
[11:42] <Kilos> space
[11:43] <Jacques_Stry> haha
[11:44] <Kilos> better to blame it on the keyboard than clumsy fingers i think
[11:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  wb
[11:46] <Kilos> blame it on looking after the new baby
[11:46] <nlsthzn> o/ uncle Kilos
[11:46] <nlsthzn> oh that is a big part of it :p
[11:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:46] <Kilos> you well lad?
[11:47] <Kilos> and the family?
[11:49] <nlsthzn> fine thanks, how are things with you and yours over there in sunny ZA-land (and obviously abroad ;))
[11:50] <Kilos> we all seem fine ty . note seem
[11:52] <Kilos> im in trouble again as usual
[11:53] <Kilos> said something i shouldnt have or ommited something i shouldnt have or didnt do what i should have
[11:53] <Kilos> sigh
[11:54] <nlsthzn> I guess it happens... hope it resolves itself quickly
[11:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:55] <Kilos> well i suppose thats up to the pro
[11:55] <Kilos> with every mood swing im in a different place
[11:57] <Kilos> and ill be in trouble because i didnt give you work to do
[11:57] <Kilos> etc etc
[12:00]  * Kilos hides
[12:01] <nlsthzn> ?
[12:01] <Kilos> lol
[12:02] <Kilos> just joking man
[12:02] <Kilos> pro must be working for a change
[12:04] <Kilos> why am i getting lots of there when updating
[12:04] <Kilos> W: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:04] <Kilos> Symmetri1  what have you broken
[12:08] <Jacques_Stry> have had that allot lately too Kilos
[12:08] <Jacques_Stry> change your source mirror to saix
[12:09] <Kilos> i just swopped to the neology mirror and update ran fine
[12:09] <Kilos> neology is fast
[12:09] <Jacques_Stry> i'll try that
[12:10] <Kilos> and last i checked it was the first mirror to be updated
[12:10] <Jacques_Stry> nice
[12:11] <Kilos> Symmetri1  is loafing on the job again
[12:12] <Kilos> someone here works there but i forget who
[12:16] <Kilos> oi system restart needed
[12:16] <Kilos> wbb
[12:16] <Jacques_Stry> k
[12:18] <Jacques_Stry> WB
[12:18] <Kilos> ty
[12:19] <Kilos> 14.04 kde has been so good to me
[12:24] <Kilos> Jacques_Stry  do you get the ubuntu weekly newsletter
[12:25] <Jacques_Stry> No...
[12:25] <Jacques_Stry> Where can I sign up?
[12:25] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue412
[12:26] <Kilos> maybe there is a link there to sign up
[12:26] <Jacques_Stry> There is
[12:26] <Jacques_Stry> Marked 18.
[12:27] <Kilos> i get it in the mail but dont remember how i did that
[12:27] <Kilos> hehe
[12:39] <Kilos> oh Jacques_Stry  i just remembered
[12:40] <Jacques_Stry> Yes?
[12:40] <Kilos> william is running some thing to get books for schools
[12:40] <Kilos> are you on our mailing list
[12:40] <Jacques_Stry> Don't think so - I should sub
[12:41] <Kilos> go to our site and joing from there
[12:41] <Jacques_Stry> k
[12:41] <Kilos> join
[12:42] <Jacques_Stry> Subbed
[12:42] <Kilos> ok ill mail the list and see if wwk can update on whats happening
[12:46] <Kilos> you should get your first mail there shortly
[12:53] <inetpro> ai!
[12:53] <Kilos> wat nou?
[12:54] <inetpro> Kilos: you should catch that barry dude before he goes and tie him to a pole
[12:54] <Kilos> lol why?
[12:54] <inetpro> Jacques_Stry: check the archives at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2015-April/thread.html
[12:54] <Kilos> they knock off at this time
[12:55] <inetpro> Kilos: he's way to slippery
[12:55] <inetpro> comes and goes without saying much
[12:55] <Kilos> no man hes is here early and knocks off now
[12:55] <Kilos> if i dont greet he does
[12:55] <Kilos> same as most peeps here
[12:55] <Kilos> he doesnt
[12:56] <inetpro> Kilos: relax!!
[12:56]  * inetpro is not even upset with you
[12:56]  * Kilos relaxes
[12:56] <Kilos> oh wow its gonna rain
[12:58] <inetpro> you see, you keep making the wrong assumptions
[12:58] <Jacques_Stry> These email lists confuse the hell out of me...
[12:58] <Kilos> yaya but i have an excuse, whats yours
[12:59] <Kilos> our list is cool Jacques_Stry
[12:59] <Kilos> no spam unless from me
[13:00] <Jacques_Stry> haha, I just can't get used to the formatting - doesn't feel like conversations flow
[13:00] <inetpro> Jacques_Stry: I agree Jacques_Stry, thanks!
[13:00] <Kilos> why do you think i prefer irc
[13:00] <inetpro> that's because some peeps continue to ignore our calls about top posting etc
[13:01]  * inetpro still prefers a default setting of text only emails
[13:02] <Kilos> some top post and others bottom post. i just delete as much as possible now from old posts and bottom post
[13:07] <Kilos> if i dont delee most of the stuff , fly fights me
[13:07] <Kilos> delete
[13:08] <Kilos> wbb, just wanna test sisters sim
[13:12] <arnaudmez_> hello guys
[13:12] <arnaudmez_> hello Kilos
[13:12] <Jacques_Stry> Hi
[13:12] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez_
[13:13] <Kilos> whats broken arnaudmez_
[13:14] <arnaudmez_> nothing
[13:14] <arnaudmez_> wish I could break something today
[13:14] <Kilos> lol no man
[13:14] <Kilos> you have lots of work
[13:15] <Kilos> this visiting once a month or less is very sad
[13:15] <Kilos> you need to get members on #ubuntu-africa
[13:16] <Kilos> or linux users anyway so i can convert them to ubuntu
[13:18] <Kilos> oh my that frightened him
[13:24] <Jacques_Stry> brb going home
[13:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:39] <Kilos> oi join/part same time
[13:40] <Kilos> ek sukkel darem
[13:42] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[13:47] <georgelappies> hi Kilos, how are you?
[13:47] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[13:47] <georgelappies> good thanks
[13:54] <Kilos> hi kulelu88
[13:54] <kulelu88> do you guys know how to setup internal 3G on a laptop where you insert the sim card in it?
[14:01] <Kilos> on ubuntu?
[14:02] <Kilos> play in network manager setup it should see it
[15:02] <Kilos> aw i missed mage
[16:06] <Kilos> nou gaan julle sukkel
[16:07] <pieter2627> evening all
[16:07] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[16:13] <Squirm> Load Shedding Stage 3B
[16:13] <Squirm> The joy...
[16:14] <Kilos> eish i already had over 2 hours this morning
[16:34] <georgelappies> yeah load sheddding stage 3 till 22:00
[16:34] <Kilos> eish
[16:34] <georgelappies> then it is stage 2 till 06:00
[16:36] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  did you win?
[16:37] <kulelu88> nope
[16:37] <kulelu88> still trying to figure it out
[16:37] <Kilos> doesnt network manager see it?
[16:37] <Kilos> maybe a driver needed
[16:38] <kulelu88> yeah I'm thinking a driver is needed
[16:38] <Kilos> you on unity?
[16:38] <Kilos> i dont know if additional drivers looks there too
[16:39] <kulelu88> i'm on xfce
[16:40] <Kilos> does that not have the additional drivers function
[16:40] <kulelu88> you mean the option?
[16:40] <kulelu88> it's there
[16:41] <Kilos> what does that say
[16:42] <kulelu88> it doesn't specify an internal 3G driver
[16:42] <Kilos> oh my
[16:43] <Kilos> someone will know
[16:44] <Kilos> might be the lappy manufacturer settings
[16:44] <Kilos> maybe in bios
[16:58] <kulelu88> oh ja. crap, I'll need to fix it before tomorrow. loadshitting at 4
[16:58] <Kilos> ai!
[18:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:35] <superfly> I think we're safe for the night
[18:36] <Kilos> from loadshedding?
[19:25] <Kilos> hi qwebirc57646
[19:25] <Kilos> qwebirc57646
[19:26] <Kilos> guys can someone guide qwebirc57646  here please
[19:26] <Kilos> he has an internal bluetooth
[19:27] <Kilos> and it doesnt light up when turned on
[19:27] <qwebirc57646> Im the guy looking for Help and Kilos is trying to help me . Await assistance.
[19:27] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  ping
[19:27] <Kilos> cool
[19:28] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  just be patient the guys are busy
[19:28] <qwebirc57646> yea sure I can wait
[19:28] <Kilos> qwebirc57646  is from finland guys
[19:32] <Kilos> elacheche  you here?
[19:33] <Kilos> ai!
[19:33] <kulelu88> does anybody know how to unlock a 3G modem from a network?
[19:33] <qwebirc57646> hello.
[19:36] <Kilos> whew kulelu88  very quiet here tonightr
[19:37] <kulelu88> I figured
[19:37] <kulelu88> now I need to buy a 3G modem or get a tablet and use it on wifi mode
[19:39] <Kilos> what do you see in bios
[19:40] <Kilos> isnt there some setting to enable wireless and other stuff
[19:40] <kulelu88> I checked
[19:40] <kulelu88> nothing in there about it
[19:41] <Kilos> whew
[19:41] <kulelu88> I'll try their forums
[19:41] <Kilos> the manufacturers
[19:41] <Kilos> must be a simple setting
[19:42] <Kilos> because 3g is quite common in network manager
[19:42] <kulelu88> it can find a dongle easy
[19:42] <Kilos> open nm and look
[19:42] <kulelu88> but internal 3G I don't know
[19:42] <Kilos> oh
[19:42] <Kilos> whew
[19:42] <kulelu88> most folks have used the files from the windows driver
[19:42] <Kilos> even more whew
[19:42] <kulelu88> I'm beginning to wonder if this machine has the WWAN card
[19:43] <kulelu88> bloody phoned the seller and they say it does support it
[19:43] <Kilos> ubuntu is good with hardware
[19:43] <kulelu88> this is balls. I need this cause those numbnuts at shitkom cant supply power
[19:48] <MaNI> have you figured out what chipset it is? thats usually a good starting point - try lspci or lshw commands and see what comes up
[19:52] <Kilos> MaNI  can i hit you with this bluetooth prob as well please?
[19:52] <Kilos> i know nothing about internal bluetooth
[19:53] <MaNI> don't have much bluetooth on linux experience, but my above comment stands, figuring out the chipset is the best starting point
[19:54] <kulelu88> I think the powercuts have messed my modem up also
[19:55] <Kilos> eish
[19:55] <kulelu88> can anyone access pastee.org?
[19:55] <kulelu88> https://pastee.org
[19:55] <Kilos> ya im in
[19:55] <kulelu88> i'm getting lagged
[19:57] <Kilos> pastee is slower than slexy.org though
[19:57] <Kilos> and http://bin.snyman.info is even faster
[19:58] <kulelu88> https guarantees better security
[19:58] <kulelu88> but anyways
[19:59] <kulelu88> MaNI: Here is the output: http://slexy.org/view/s2vl890iUT
[20:00] <kulelu88> it doesn't look like an internal card reader exists
[20:00] <Kilos> Maaz  time in finland
[20:00] <Maaz> Kilos: It is 2015-04-14 23:00:56 EEST
[20:01] <Kilos> ah an hour ahead of us
[20:01] <kulelu88> whos in Finland?
[20:02] <Kilos> that qwerbirc guy
[20:02] <kulelu88> he left
[20:02] <Kilos> i get caught up all over the world
[20:03] <Kilos> ya he is tired so will come back tomorrow
[20:03] <Kilos> hehe
[20:03] <Kilos> new to ubuntu as well
[20:04] <Kilos> and new to irc
[20:04] <MaNI> kulelu88, yeah I only see SD card reader and wireless card there
[20:05] <Kilos> inetpro  you asleep already?
[20:05] <Kilos> ai! he is really getting old
[20:06] <kulelu88> MaNI: I don't know if lshw provides more info though. it looks like something is there
[20:06] <MaNI> lshw is much more comprehensive usually
[20:07] <kulelu88> Let me show you the relevant output for it
[20:09] <inetpro> Kilos: yes
[20:09] <inetpro> oh I mean...
[20:09] <Kilos> sleep tight old man
[20:09] <Kilos> oh you mean you old
[20:10] <Kilos> or you mean no you not asleep
[20:10] <kulelu88> MaNI: http://slexy.org/view/s208xK0Y5M
[20:14] <MaNI> hrm I still just see wireless/SD card reader/ethernet/audio there
[20:14] <MaNI> "RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader" - thats the SD card reader
[20:15] <kulelu88> I have a few slots here and there on this machine
[20:15] <inetpro> sorry, just had to read the backlogs
[20:15] <kulelu88> I'm wondering if 1 of them allows me to use a simcard somewhere
[20:16] <inetpro> now am awake again
[20:16] <Kilos> sorry inetpro
[20:16] <inetpro> for a few minutes
[20:16] <Kilos> go sleep sir
[20:16] <Kilos> check pm inetpro
[20:18] <MaNI> kulelu88, try lsusb as well
[20:19] <MaNI> and see if you can figure out the function key combo to turn it on/off (fn _ on some laptops)
[20:20] <MaNI> what laptop brand?
[20:28] <inetpro> good night everyone
[20:28] <Kilos> night inetpro
[20:28] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:32] <MaNI> ideally if you are lucky you should see something like: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bdb:1904 Ericsson Business Mobile Networks BV F3607gw Mobile Broadband Module
[20:33] <MaNI> after toggling it on with right key combo (and assuming it isn't turned off by some buried away BIOS setting)
[20:33] <MaNI> anyway I'm off good luck
[20:33] <Kilos> night MaNI
[20:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:46] <kulelu88> take care MaNI . if you are still here I can check quickly
[20:47] <kulelu88> yeah there's nothing there sadly
[20:47] <kulelu88> thanks MaNI


[00:26] <cheus> Hi, I'm on mythbuntu 12.04 and whenever my monitor is turned off my session crashes and I'm back at a login screen. Any idea what could cause the session to crash with just the press of a monitor power button? I checked acpi and saw no events.
[00:43] <tgm4883> cheus, are you using HDMI?
[00:43] <cheus> tgm4883: I am
[00:43] <tgm4883> hmm
[00:44] <tgm4883> vid card?
[00:45] <cheus> nvidia 9400 GT. Had this machine running mythbuntu for successive updates since the distro's inception
[00:45] <cheus> tgm4883:  12.04 knocked quite a few things for a loop.
[00:46] <tgm4883> cheus, It sounds like it's an issue with CeC
[00:46] <cheus> tgm4883:  CeC?
[00:46] <tgm4883> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
[00:46] <Zinn> [en.wikipedia.org] HDMI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[00:46] <tgm4883> cheus, basically, you turn your tv off, it sends a signal though HDMI
[00:47] <tgm4883> bad news is I've not heard of this issue before
[00:47] <tgm4883> you might want to try in #mythtv-users
[00:48] <cheus> tgm4883: Ahh. Actually, I say it fires when I turn it off, but it might be firing when it turns back on -- at the very least I see acpi's client disconnect and crash when it comes back on
[00:48] <tgm4883> cheus, well CeC is going to cover both of those
[00:48] <tgm4883> as well as input changes
[00:48] <tgm4883> maybe volume/channel changes too
[00:50] <cheus> tgm4883: Thanks for the tip. That's more than I had to start with.
[22:40] <korn788> hello  have a win tv 1600 tuner card and im using a windows mce remote can mythtv do ir blaster
[22:40] <korn788> and if so is there a guide i can find
[23:14] <riddlebox> do I have to do anything special for a pvr-150 to work in mythtbuntu?
[23:14] <riddlebox> mythbuntu sees the card in the setup..but I am not seeing any tv
[23:48] <Technophil> I vaguely recall the IPTV MPEG2 encoder stuff (PVR-150) was removed in ?0.25, can someone clarify please?
[23:54] <Technophil> Sorry IVTV


[00:09] <cscheib> about 75% of enterprise management tools
[00:09] <cscheib> at least, they need to know what to do with a jnlp
[00:30] <jrwren> that is still a thing?!?
[00:30] <jrwren> man, I love my bubble life.
[00:32] <cscheib> yea
[00:32] <cscheib> HP iLO still requires either Java or .NET
[00:32] <cscheib> for example.
[00:32] <jrwren> o_O?
[00:32] <cscheib> and, most anything storage related requires Java
[00:33] <jrwren> for some definition of storage :p
[00:33] <jrwren> isn't iLO their BMC?
[00:34] <jrwren> i dont' konw how you can require java or .net for BMC. its just insane.
[00:34] <cscheib> even digitalocean's "console" tty requires java
[00:35] <jrwren> WAT?
[00:35] <jrwren> surely not.
[00:35] <cscheib> you can SSH to the iLO as well, but it's a bit wonky
[00:35] <jrwren> ah, so not required.
[00:35] <cscheib> and you can't actually hit a console
[00:35] <cscheib> just power up/down
[00:35] <cscheib> afaik
[00:36] <cscheib> ther power functions and KVM are the whole reason to use iLO
[00:43] <jrwren> yup.
[00:44] <jrwren> arbor had very nice setup for that sort of thing, but given that the devices arbor sold were managed more like routers, it was serial consoles for remote access.
[00:44] <jrwren> no reasons servers can't be that way today.
[00:44] <jrwren> but sadly, most folks don't see it that way.
[00:51] <cscheib> yea, but most BIOSes (including option ROMs) are menu based
[00:51] <cscheib> so they'd have to change that
[00:51] <cscheib> even Cisco's UCS stuff, if you want a graphical interface, you get Java
[00:52] <cscheib> but they have a good API to do just about everything (except KVM)
[00:53] <jrwren> menu based worked great via consoled *shrug*
[00:55] <cscheib> eh, I've done it, it can be really weird
[00:58] <jrwren> now that you mention it, yeah, sometimes the menu system would fuck up and you'd have to reconnect.
[00:59] <cscheib> I've spent a lot of time on serial consoles, they can be a bitch/awkward when something rewrites the whole screen, and/or you're not using a console server with a history buffer
[04:09] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6-_48Aqso0
[22:19] <shakes808> Hello everyone.   I have a question about some basic github stuff.  When trying to push up a new repo it hangs.  I am in the command line and either get nothing or a message stating it is pushing but it clearly isn't.  I even tried to create it on the github side and pull it down but no dice there either.  any help?
[22:27] <cmaloney> shakes808: Not sure what might be the problem
[22:27] <cmaloney> is it waiting for a prompt perhaps?
[22:29] <shakes808> Hello CMaloney!  Nope.  It doesn't do anything.  I have to manually stop it and sometimes the process.
[22:44] <shakes808> CMaloney, sorry, had to restart.  the process froze and wouldn't die.
[22:45] <shakes808> :|
[22:50] <cmaloney> Ugh
[22:51] <cmaloney> YOu might want to run "dmesg" and see if that gives some hints
[22:51] <cmaloney> also: check to see that you haven't filled up your /var partition
[22:51] <cmaloney> or root partition
[22:53] <brousch> It's not trying to push a giant file, right? Like a video or binary?
[22:56] <shakes808> CMaloney: Working on Windows :|  New computer
[22:56] <shakes808> BRousch: Nope, small .js files
[22:56] <shakes808> going through some NodeJS tuts
[22:57] <shakes808> files are under 15 lines each, 5 of them. :(
[23:56] <_stink_> shakes808: could it be that your hard drive is failing?
[23:56] <_stink_> i like cmaloney's dmesg idea


[15:26] <jeffrash> so, I've been thinking of holding some classes on the ubuntu desktop as a faster, virus free alternative to Windows
[15:26] <jeffrash> what do you guys think about that?
[15:36] <akgraner> jeffrash, where at?
[15:37] <jeffrash> Concord NC
[15:37] <akgraner> That would be be cool ..
[15:37] <akgraner> holstein, guess what?
[15:38] <jeffrash> There's a place here called Right-Click.
[15:38] <akgraner> What do you need?  I'm working a 6 week class for 8th graders - it's their computer class - using Natty and Dell netbooks
[15:38] <jeffrash> They're an Internet cafe and have a training space
[15:39] <akgraner> GREAT!
[15:39] <akgraner> Is there anything you need from the team
[15:39] <akgraner> also do you know about Open Week?
[15:40] <akgraner> ok since holstein isn't guessing I'll just tell you all - I'm on the Community Council now :-)  I am so excited
[15:40] <holstein> akgraner: cool
[15:40] <holstein> i just need to wipe windows here and all would be good ;)
[15:40] <akgraner> jeffrash, we can add it to the monthly reports just let us know when you kick it off
[15:41] <jeffrash> ok
[15:41] <jeffrash> akgraner, very cool.  What does that mean?
[15:41] <jeffrash> :)
[15:41] <akgraner> but I think it's a great idea...
[15:42] <akgraner> jeffrash, honestly I am not sure what that means going forward other than helping with the overall governance of the Ubuntu Community for 2 years
[15:42] <akgraner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
[17:44] <jeffrash> do you guys feel ubuntu is getting more or less compatible with your hardware?
[17:59] <akgraner> more...
[17:59] <akgraner> have you seen the hardware cert page and the Ubuntu Friendly Program (in beta now) - if not I can get you the links
[17:59] <akgraner> internalkernel, did you see  - I'm on the CC now :-)
[18:02] <internalkernel> akgraner: congrats! I just saw that when I checked out G+ for the first time in weeks...
[18:02] <internalkernel> you are one of 3 ladies on the CC, right?
[18:02] <akgraner> yeppers :-)
[18:02] <akgraner> 4 years ago no women, 2 years ago only 1 now we have 3
[18:03] <akgraner> I think that says a lot for our community! :-)
[18:03] <internalkernel> nice... Pete's got his work cut out for him... lol... I like strong ladies too  :)
[18:03] <akgraner> hehe...you are funny
[18:04] <akgraner> internalkernel, holstein I can't make it tomorrow - Becca has a Band competition in Chesnee, SC
[18:04] <internalkernel> I try...
[18:04] <internalkernel> I saw some chatter about Sat - release party?
[18:04] <internalkernel> I have to drive to Chapel Hill tomorrow, and I leave for SF next week...
[18:04] <akgraner> and since I am one of the Band Booster Board Members  - I gotta go...
[18:06] <akgraner> try saying that 2 times fast
[18:06] <internalkernel> BBBM
[18:06] <internalkernel> BBBM
[18:06] <internalkernel> there...
[18:06] <internalkernel> wasn't so bad
[18:06] <akgraner> internalkernel, is your schedule picking up?
[18:06] <akgraner> haha
[18:07] <internalkernel> actually, it's starting to slow down... I just got home from San Antonio last night... after SF Ill be around for a bit
[18:07] <akgraner> ahh ok
[18:07] <akgraner> so slow til Feb?
[18:08] <internalkernel> pretty much, but  my consulting has been picking up...
[18:09] <internalkernel> but that's easy for me to schedule since I can do it from home
[18:10] <akgraner> oh cool
[18:10] <akgraner> that's exciting for you  - happy to hear it
[18:11] <internalkernel> thanks... I've been working on building that for a while now...
[18:12] <akgraner> yeah  - I just updated my resume - and sending it out
[18:13] <internalkernel> well, you've got your name on a several large ticket items... aside from the CC, there's the Book and the mag you write for...
[18:13] <internalkernel> that's gotta be worth something on a resume
[18:14] <akgraner> totally  - I hope
[18:14] <akgraner> we'll start working on the 7th edition of the book after the 12.04 beta 1
[18:14] <akgraner> before that  - too many things change
[18:16] <internalkernel> nice... that book is a big help to beginners...
[18:16] <internalkernel> I haven't tried oneiric again... not since the last #failure
[18:17] <internalkernel> Im actually running Mint at the moment since they kept Gnome2 and a working version of Compiz...
[18:18] <internalkernel> Ill try it again in a month or two... I want the dust to settle... but for the record, this is the _first_ time I have been unable to use the beta...
[18:19] <akgraner> internalkernel, lubuntu is cool too
[18:20] <internalkernel> lol... that was my first fallback...
[18:20] <internalkernel> The installer died due  to some 2 year old bug...
[18:20] <internalkernel> it was awesome...
[18:20] <internalkernel> I had to install Xubuntu, then Lubuntu on top of it... but, the bottom line, they were all broken...
[18:21] <internalkernel> It was fine... if you didn't change anything... used the defaults
[18:21] <akgraner> ahh ok
[18:21] <internalkernel> but when I install CCSM to configure compiz... it would break compiz completely...
[18:21] <akgraner> yeah you mentioned that
[18:21] <internalkernel> do you know what happens when you log in and compiz is broken?
[18:21] <internalkernel> nothing... absolutely... nothing... it's awesome.
[18:21] <akgraner> haha
[18:22] <internalkernel> I like so much of the new design, and it felt like they cleaned up the interface quite a bit...
[18:22] <internalkernel> even though Nautilus is now as ugly as SquirrelMail
[18:23] <internalkernel> but, I need _my_ tweaks... it's my methodology that makes my system productive...
[18:23] <internalkernel> for me of course...
[18:23] <akgraner> I know when I installed the beta I had to fix my desktop
[18:23] <internalkernel> I expect that from a beta...
[18:24] <akgraner> I had to run  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[18:24] <akgraner> that fixed a lot of crap for me
[18:24] <internalkernel> I was prepared for some brokenness... some gnashing of teeth... but three days later - when I boot my system up and nothing works again... I'm done.
[18:24] <akgraner> totally
[18:24] <internalkernel> yeah... you know me, not only am I hard to please, I'm also very particular...
[18:24] <akgraner> I am learning how to set up my own server at UDS - jcastro is going to show me
[18:25] <internalkernel> nice!
[18:25] <internalkernel> can I get in on that class? :D
[18:25] <akgraner> I tried out Ubuntu in the Cloud - their wordpress instance on Amazon
[18:25] <internalkernel> I saw that post too...
[18:25] <akgraner> and jcastro was like dude I can show you how to do that with bare metal
[18:25] <internalkernel> you might want to check out ownCloud
[18:25] <internalkernel> lol
[18:25] <internalkernel> ownCloud is really effin cool and the project has a lot of activity going on right now
[18:26] <akgraner> I need to learn more...so I understand what the heck I am doing
[18:26] <internalkernel> its like... Ubuntu One but you can install it on your own server
[18:26] <internalkernel> haha... learn to love the terminal!
[18:27] <internalkernel> Hey I gotta run... I need to kill the power in the house for a bit... :/
[18:27] <akgraner> laters


[10:47] <bazhang> !isitout
[20:44] <Pici> dunno what what means
[20:45] <rww> let me know if you want me to pipe up, otherwise i'll leave it to you
[20:49] <ipoxfred> hi, so why did you ban me?
[20:50] <rww> hi martin. you've been banned from #ubuntu-offtopic since 2014 because of repeated erratic behavior and discussion of problematic topics
[20:50] <rww> you've subsequently evaded that ban rather a lot, which doesn't make it less applicable
[20:53] <ipoxfred> are you answering me or another person?
[20:53] <rww> nope, you
[20:53] <ipoxfred> why do you refer to me as martin?
[20:54] <rww> because that's the first part of your nickserv accountname
[20:54] <rww> if you picked a random name instead of your actual one, i can call you fred instead if you like
[20:54] <ipoxfred> i dont see that anywhere, please explain where did you find that
[20:54] <rww> /whois ipoxfred
[21:00] <rww> @mark ipoxfred
[21:01] <Pici> anyway
[21:02] <Pici> !16.04
[21:02] <rww> heh, I don't know what either of those words mean