[20:42] <andruk> how do i run vnc over ssh then?
[20:42] <RichiV> how do i install this index http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/
[20:42] <andruk> how do i run vnc over ssh then (from the client end)?
[20:42] <sidh> ltcabral: so start  your find from dir you have right on it
[20:42] <PastorKarr> ccasket: idk what that is... im looking for a basic install of ubuntu of a flash drive, thats why im asking
[20:43] <ExAstris> cabrey: last time I was in my system, I ran an update and the janitor app. could that have done it?
[20:43] <cabrey> ahh yes
[20:43] <dankenstein> Pranka both of them will do fine just need to know how to open them....
[20:43] <cabrey> i would stay away from the janitor
[20:43] <Allow> i need valid cc
[20:43] <Allow> i need valid cc
[20:43] <cabrey> until it was matured significantly
[20:43] <Pranka> dankenstein: In terminal, type ufw
[20:43] <ccasket> PastorKarr, XFCE is a lightweight desktop that might work well for your needs... I think Xubuntu or the Ubuntu Netbook Remix would be pertinent for you
[20:43] <cabrey> has*
[20:43] <andruk> Allow: what?
[20:44] <PastorKarr> allrghty then
[20:44] <cabrey> ExAstris, apt-cache show songbird will tell you if it is installed or not
[20:44] <ccasket> PastorKarr, Xubuntu is the XFCE Ubuntu version, and the Netbook remix is meant to run light
[20:44] <Pranka> dankenstein: I haven't used FireStarter before, but I'm sure there is a GUI for it.
[20:44] <sidh> or find / -name myfile |grep -v "Permission denied" ?
[20:44] <twig11> my d-link dwl g-120 usb wireless card causes ubuntu 9.04 to hang on startup with the message "Starting Bluetooth." Anybody have any ideas on fixing this?
[20:44] <ExAstris> cabrey, that command returns nothing. just brings me right back to a prompt
[20:44] <dankenstein> Pranks thanks thats just wat i needed
[20:44] <LuciusMare> twig11: ask on #ubuntu
[20:44] <PastorKarr> ccasket: ok thanks, right now im installing cli version, then il see about the xubuntudesktop
[20:44] <ccasket> twig11, try disabling bluetooth service
[20:44] <dankenstein> Pranka my bad =p
[20:45] <cabrey> ExAstris, so not installed
[20:45] <ccasket> PastorKarr, that should work great
[20:45] <ExAstris> cabrey: but it WAS. less then 24 hours ago.
[20:45] <twig11> ccasket, how do I do that?
[20:45] <ExAstris> cabrey: (meaning it worked 24 hours ago, not I installed it 24 hours ago)
[20:45] <ccasket> services, under system settings menu, uncheck bluetooth
[20:45] <ExAstris> cabrey: I've had it for some time, AND I've spent a lot of time configuring it. Where could it have gone..?
[20:45] <Pranka> dankenstein: If you want a GUI for ufw, type sudo apt-get install gufw
[20:46] <twig11> ccasket thanks I'll try it.
[20:46] <sidh> do you know if i install backport and upgrade my kernel to the latest available, if i will fix my HAL problem ?
[20:46] <cabrey> ExAstris, you most likely didnt loose your configuration settings
[20:46] <cabrey> they are stored in $HOME
[20:46] <ExAstris> cabrey: well, I'll reinstall and we'll see - but what causes an app to just disappear like that/
[20:47] <twig11> restarting now
[20:47] <Allow> i need valid CC
[20:47] <Allow> pls
[20:47] <cabrey> ExAstris, it was definitely the janitor
[20:47] <ExAstris> cabrey: alright. thanks.
[20:47] <ExAstris> cabrey: Those pesky janitors. I feel like I'm in a bad episode of scrubs.
[20:48] <ExAstris> cabrey: thanks for your help. Sorry if I was a bit... irritated.
[20:48] <fccf> Allow: CC? - nobody is going to give you credit card info on irc
[20:48] <cabrey> ExAstris, its fine, we all have those days lol
[20:48] <ExAstris> cabrey: yea :P
[20:49] <kre> hello. with what python does ubuntu ship by default?
[20:49] <kre> what version of python
[20:49] <resno> kre: depends on which version of ubuntu
[20:49] <twig11> ccasket I disabled bluetooth, but it's still hanging on startup. Any more ideas?
[20:50] <kre> resno the latest one
[20:50] <shriven> Hello.
[20:50] <fccf> twig11:  diable acpi
[20:50] <casey_> hello
[20:50] <sachael> hi, can anyone recommend an f-spot alternative?
[20:50] <twig11> fccf how is that done
[20:50] <ccasket> twig11, nope sorry - just to check Launchpad for any related Ubuntu bugs - the threads there often have workarounds or you can find out when the fix is coming
[20:50] <cabrey> sachael, try picasa
[20:50] <resno> kre: the latest, i would assume.
[20:51] <chuck_> kre, if you have not changed it type in terminal  python --version
[20:51] <twig11> sachael try picasa
[20:51] <shriven> I'm trying to build a .deb, and include some arbitrary files. What is the *right* way to do that? Ie: I can build the package and the make install works fine and the package works fine, but now I want to include some custom files that are not part of the make script in the package.
[20:51] <kre> i dont have ubuntu
[20:51] <ccasket> shriven, you can put lines in your package makefile to include arbitrary files
[20:51] <Myrtti> kre: eh?
[20:52] <resno> kre: i have verion 2.6.2
[20:52] <superGear> Why is firefox so unstable on ubuntu?
[20:52] <resno> kre: up to date install
[20:52] <Myrtti> kre: oh, nevermind
[20:52] <ccasket> shriven, sorry i don't have examples handy, but it is possible to do
[20:52] <kre> resno ok thanks
[20:52] <Myrtti> superGear: probably because of flash
[20:52] <shriven> ccasket: hmmm that is what I thought about too. Seems like a lot of work to add just 3 files... : (
[20:52] <Musodalabio> Qualche italiano?
[20:52] <shriven> ccasket: np
[20:52] <twig11> fccf I'm quite new to linux. Could you give me directions on how to disable acpi and what that should accomplish?
[20:52] <fccf> twig11: at the grub prompt select the kernel you are loading and press e to edit ... then edit the line that loads or unloads modules ... add noacpi to that line and boot
[20:52] <resno> Musodalabio: !it
[20:52] <Myrtti> !it | Musodalabio
[20:52] <superGear> never had problems with flash on other distros
[20:52] <saiter> u
[20:52] <shriven> ccasket: I'll play around with that I guess
[20:52] <ccasket> shriven, well, you already have the file you had to write to make the package - 10-15 lines already, right? :)
[20:52] <superGear> ah well guess back to other distro
[20:53] <Myrtti> superGear: I'd doubt any other distro would be any better in that sense
[20:53] <superGear> tho 9.04 is pretty fast compared to the last time i tried Ubuntu
[20:53] <shriven> ccasket: nono, its not my package. I'm just building it and packaging it to distribute on my servers, but I want a few other things to go with it.
[20:53] <ccasket> superGear, flash and firefox are basically rock solid for most of us...what site is giving you trouble?
[20:53] <casey_> i got 2 other hard drives in this ubuntu computer. I want to use the hard drives and puts some things on them but when i try to it says you do not have permissions.
[20:53] <cabrey> superGear, flash sucks on every *nix platform IMHO
[20:53] <shriven> ccasket: or I should say, not my software, but I am trying to package it for non-public use.
[20:53] <superGear> probably the worse one to use firefox on
[20:54] <superGear> youtube
[20:54] <cabrey> superGear, specs?
[20:54] <superGear> specs?
[20:54] <superGear> cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz w/ 512 KB L2 Cache]
[20:54] <ccasket> SuperGear, I have zero issues with anything in youtube on firefox in 9.04, can you be more specific
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> superGear: i have no problems at all w/ flash
[20:54] <casey_> i got 2 other hard drives in this ubuntu computer. I want to use the hard drives and puts some things on them but when i try to it says you do not have permissions.
[20:54] <FunkyLarge> !intel
[20:54] <superGear> firefox crashes yo, hence why i said firefox is unstable
[20:55] <superGear> on ubuntu
[20:55] <superGear> stable on other distros and windows
[20:55] <superGear> near 0 problems
[20:55] <ccasket> shriven, wow, i am realizing it has been a while, i have forgotten the details, but I remember there is a build file with metadata for the .deb build system, that file can have lines for files you add that aren't part of the tarball that is typically the base of the package
[20:55] <superGear> video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS @ Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration]
[20:55] <Myrtti> superGear: 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[20:55] <superGear> 32bit
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> superGear: i suggest your PC has problems, or your installed does, because I can't recall ever FF crashing on me, and I've got Ubuntu and FF running on 3 machines
[20:55] <FunkyLarge> What is the best method to fix the intel graphic problem?
[20:56] <superGear> IndyGunFreak, or better yet go back to a distro i know :P
[20:56] <shriven> ccasket: yes I think your referring to debian/files. I tried messing with that too, trouble is debuild wipes it out before starting... I'm not sure how to make it work. : (
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> superGear: well if thats what you want to do, but like i said, i've had no problems, and that in includes Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora
[20:56] <ccasket> shriven, i think we are talking about different build systems perhaps
[20:56] <superGear> PC has no problems or it would happen on other distros/windows
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> superGear: not necessarily
[20:57] <Myrtti> superGear: you're welcome to move on if you want to.
[20:57] <cabrey> !intel > me
[20:57] <shriven> ccasket: could be... debuild is just a layer on top of dpkg-buildpackage, is that what you are thinking of?
[20:57] <casey_> can someone help me
[20:57] <IndyGunFreak> casey_: just ask
[20:57] <resno> casey_: !ask
[20:57] <casey_> i got 2 other hard drives in this ubuntu computer. I want to use the hard drives and puts some things on them but when i try to it says you do not have permissions.
[20:57] <Myrtti> resno: you've got it upside down
[20:57] <resno> !ask casey_:
[20:57] <Myrtti> !bot | resno
[20:57] <resno> casey_: ask!
[20:58] <palomer> is there a gui for figuring out where the diskspace is going?
[20:58] <casey_> i got 2 other hard drives in this ubuntu computer. I want to use the hard drives and puts some things on them but when i try to it says you do not have permissions.
[20:58] <Myrtti> palomer: baobab
[20:58] <Myrtti> !info baobab | palomer
[20:58] <Myrtti> gah
[20:58] <twig11> anyone know of a place where I can find instructions for getting a d-link dwl g-120 wireless card working on ubuntu 9.04
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> !mount | casey_
[20:58] <resno> Myrtti: i see i need to go back to bot school
[20:58] <Myrtti> palomer: nevermind
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> !permission | casey_
[20:58] <Guthur> is there no way to install some programs on a different drive than the ubuntu installation, i can seem to figure out how to set the installation destination for packages
[20:58] <casey_> i did try that but it still din't work
[20:58] <Guthur> s/can/can't
[20:59] <superGear> umask
[20:59] <wigglez> hey guys when using lsusb, the xxxx:xxxx number, is that the ven number and device id i need to know when loading a driver
[21:00] <Mow> ok im clueless how do I change my theme on with emerald
[21:00] <Mow> help plz?
[21:00] <fccf> wigglez: you shouldn't need a driver for the 3g card ... just the wvdial config
[21:00] <IndyGunFreak> !emerald | Mow
[21:01] <cabrey> Mohero, just use metacity
[21:01] <cabrey> it has tons of themes and you can adjust transparency
[21:01] <ccasket> shriven, yes it was the file under DEBIAN/ in the build tree
[21:01] <cabrey> Mow*
[21:01] <Mow> what other kind of theme changers are there other then emerald that work on compiz and KDE
[21:01] <Mark_vH> hi, is there any way to prevent certain windows from maximizing?
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> Mow: dunno about KDE.. ask in #kubuntu
[21:01] <Mark_vH> specifically: gdesklets
[21:01] <superGear> kde3 or 4?
[21:02] <cabrey> Mark_vH, are you  using the Netbook Remix by chance?
[21:02] <Mark_vH> no, using 8.10
[21:02] <Mark_vH> normal desktop(?) version
[21:02] <jdu> I'm interested in advice regarding disabling e2fscks of / filesystem; is this ok?  Basically, I'm editing someone else's script that installs/clones ubuntu systems and this is something it does.
[21:02] <Mow> wait so emerald theme manager the one that comes with what i downloaded is absolete?
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> Mow: thats pretty much what it said..
[21:02] <cabrey> You don't have maximus installed do you?
[21:03] <Mow> bah...thats usesless..
[21:03] <Mark_vH> cabrey: no
[21:03] <Mow> Recommend any new ones that are uptodate?
[21:03] <alan__> oi
[21:03] <resno> Mow:  as someone already recommended: metacity
[21:03] <superGear> metacity
[21:03] <Mow> Oh ok I didnt see it
[21:03] <fccf> jdu: totally unreccommended - e2fscks is  a filesystem check - checking for errors on a partition... if you install on a bad partition and don't check it - you will lose data
[21:03] <Shaudh> Hi there
[21:04] <jdu> fccf, that's along the lines I was thinking.  For that matter, would you suggest I edit the script to run e2fsck on each system that is installed?
[21:04] <Shaudh> I remember something that is was possible to declare a default usergroup for a directory.. I thought it was chgrp -S <groupname> but it seems wrong.. the man page doesn't list the option either.. so How can I declare a default group for files in a directory regardless of the primary group of the user making the file or subdirectory?
[21:05] <jdu> Shaudh, + on -
[21:05] <fccf> jdu: Probably wise
[21:05] <Mow> can I download meta through like sync or add or remove aplications
[21:05] <jdu> Shaudh, and it may be a small s
[21:05] <cabrey> Mark_vH, that's about all I can think of, seeing as I don't use gDesklets
[21:05] <Shaudh> jdu: I don't understand.. +- ?
[21:05] <jdu> Shaudh, before the s
[21:05] <SunmanXII> Hey guys, Im having an issue with changing screen resolution in Hardy - I get an error message " The X Server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available"
[21:06] <Shaudh> jdu: Ahh.. even thought the option isn't listed in the man page?
[21:06] <jdu> Shaudh, sorry my response was confusing       + instead of -
[21:06] <cabrey> Mow, what do you want to install?
[21:06] <fccf> SunmanXII: what graphics card are you running
[21:06] <Shaudh> jdu: Thanks :D
[21:06] <jdu> Shaudh, really?
[21:06] <Mark_vH> cabrey: ok, thanks anyway...i got pretty far at customizing my ubuntu to my needs. Now the only annoyance is that the gdesklets can still be maximized by the system-wide maximize key
[21:06] <Shaudh> jdu: yes :)
[21:06] <Mow> metacity
[21:06] <Mark_vH> well...i guess i can live with it for now
[21:06] <resno> Mow:  apt-get install metacity
[21:07] <cabrey> Mow, metacity is installed by default in Ubuntu
[21:07] <Mow> Thats what I was asking lol..thanks
[21:07] <SunmanXII> fccf: im running an ati but i have all the drivers enabled. this is a common issue with my card but i havent seen a solution that works for me
[21:07] <deadnix> hey
[21:07] <phaedral> If I do a WUBI install to an 8 gig usb stick will that let me take my ubuntu to other computers?
[21:07] <fccf> !ati | SunmanXII
[21:07] <deadnix> is there a way to runn the media server on ubuntu for ps3?
[21:07] <Shaudh> jdu: I've tried and it's not accepting +s +S -S -s ... any other ideas? :D
[21:07] <ccasket> Mow, metacity is the default gnome theme engine, check out gnome-look.org and kde-look.org for all the goodies
[21:08] <twig11> can anyone recommend an inexpensive usb wireless card that works with ubuntu 9.04 out of the box?
[21:08] <fccf> SunmanXII: you will need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually to change resolutions
[21:08] <resno> deadnix: are you trying to install something on the ps3?
[21:08] <cabrey> !metacity
[21:08] <cabrey> darn
[21:08] <Mow> alright yeah I was wondering why emerald wasnt working then I heard it has problems I had no idea ive been trying to get it to work this whole time..thanks
[21:08] <SunmanXII> fccf: I have the driver up and working as far as i know. its just the resolution that i cant do
[21:08] <SunmanXII> fccf: how do i do that?
[21:08] <deadnix> resno no i need to access the video and music files from ps3 on my pc which runs ubuntu
[21:08] <fccf> !no metacity is the default display manager in gnome
[21:09] <ccasket> twig11, I'm using a cheap Linksys PCI card that shows as 06:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[21:09] <resno> deadnix: have samba installed?
[21:09] <deadnix> not yet
[21:09] <deadnix> just installed ubuntu
[21:09] <resno> deadnix: im not sure what program to use for that since ps3 needs a "media server" program
[21:09] <cabrey> Metacity is default Windows Manager in Ubuntu
[21:09] <TannerS_> !samba
[21:10] <fccf> SunmanXII: type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf --- make sure to save a backup
[21:10] <Mow> idk emerald came up as my default..
[21:10] <casey_> how do i change root i got 2 other hard drives in this ubuntu computer. I want to use the hard drives and puts some things on them but when i try to it says you do not have permissions.
[21:10] <jdu> if I delete everything in /dev, will it be recreated on next boot?
[21:10] <cabrey> Mow, run aptitude show emerald to see if it is installed
[21:10] <Spec> jdu: i wouldn't recommend doing that.
[21:11] <SunmanXII> fccf: I have a bunch of resolutions in the "screen" section of xorg.conf... do i just get rid of them?
[21:11] <Shaudh> Is there a way to declare a default group for a directory that will be assigned to sub files and directories regardless of the primary usergroup of the user making the file or subdir?
[21:11] <the1corrupted> My touchpad on my laptop isn't detected in Linux.  Help?
[21:11] <casey_> how do i chamge root premissions
[21:11] <cabrey> jdu, you won't be allowed, even with sudo
[21:11] <jdu> Spec, I know, but theoretically
[21:11] <Spec> jdu; probably not.
[21:11] <fccf> SunmanXII: no, those are the available resolutions... please pastebin your xorg.conf and I will edit for you
[21:11] <casey_>  how do i change root premissions
[21:12] <jdu> so another way: if I create a system without anything in /dev and boot it, it is created, right?
[21:12] <Myrtti> Shaudh: there should be information about that around the internet with "suid" and "sticky bit"
[21:12] <resno> casey_: why do you want to change root permissions?
[21:12] <Myrtti> casey_: huh?
[21:12] <cabrey> "/dev" is a virtual folder
[21:12] <jdu> because I am mounting udev
[21:12] <casey_> do i can use a hard drive
[21:12] <Shaudh> Myrtti: Thanks for the keywords.. starting to google now :)
[21:12] <SunmanXII> fccf: http://pastebin.com/m48fc20d9
[21:12] <splitz> do someone know if it is possible to get amarok remember where you are in a podcast? like iTunes.
[21:13] <jdu> cabrey, oddly, this software I'm messing with acts like it's not
[21:13] <PastorKarr> i am very limited on space, does the net minimal install download the system to the disk and then jnstall from there or to RAM? like is it same in the end as having alternate install disc?
[21:13] <casey_> do i need to sign in as root?
[21:13] <cabrey> PastorKarr, nothing installs to RAM, that is temporary storage
[21:13] <jdu> casey_, use sudo
[21:13] <PastorKarr> yes i meant the downloaded pacakges and stuff
[21:14] <the1corrupted> casey_: No.  You should never have to.
[21:14] <jdu> sudo su   to get root shell
[21:14] <casey_> ho do i use sudo
[21:14] <fccf> SunmanXII: what is your current resolution? & what do you want your resolution to be
[21:14] <cabrey> casey_, sudo program
[21:14] <resno> casey_: in terminal
[21:14] <the1corrupted> My (ALPS) touchpad on my laptop isn't detected in Linux.  Help?
[21:14] <dajhorn> Are all Launchpad PPA archives being automatically signed now?
[21:14] <alan__> someone help me?
[21:14] <casey_> where is it
[21:15] <cabrey> dajhorn, each ppa has its own key which you need to import
[21:15] <fccf> !ask | alan__
[21:15] <casey_> i'm new to liunx
[21:15] <splitz> do someone know if it is possible to get amarok remember where you are in a podcast? like iTunes.
[21:15] <cabrey> casey_, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[21:15] <the1corrupted> casey_: What are you trying to do that you need to edit root permissions?
[21:15] <dajhorn> cabrey: I've got a PPA that was published last week, but the Launchpad bot didn't create a Release.gpg file, even though the PPA has a key.
[21:15] <resno> i was trying remember how to get to terminal from memory..
[21:15] <casey_> so i can use a hard drive
[21:16] <yucel> merhaba
[21:16] <SunmanXII> fccf: im currently 1280x1024 i want to be 1440x900
[21:16] <cabrey> dajhorn, In that case it probably automatically generates a key for you to use, but you have to use it
[21:16] <PastorKarr> casey_: i know, i was meaning space, im assuming it deletes packages after unpacking and installing.... so its same as doing a cli install froma a alternate disk?
[21:16] <dajhorn> cabrey: Yes, I've got the LP PPA key, but the LP bot didn't actually sign anything with it.
[21:17] <fccf> SunmanXII: the linux driver will only support 1280x1024 .. sorry
[21:17] <casey_> huh
[21:17] <PastorKarr> casey_: i meant cabrey
[21:17] <Sorinello> annyone has any idea how to make Eclipse to consume less resources on Ubuntu ?
[21:17] <PastorKarr> :P
[21:17] <SunmanXII> can i change to 1024x768 then? cause the current one is screwed up on my display
[21:17] <deadnix> so no one knows how to share media from ubuntu to ps3?
[21:17] <the1corrupted> SunmanXII: System -> Preferences -> Display
[21:17] <casey_> ok
[21:17] <resno> deadnix: you should google ps3 media server from linux or osmething
[21:18] <Lilarcor> deadnix: media? as in...movies?
[21:18] <cabrey> dajhorn, /join #launchpad
[21:18] <deadnix> LibertyTiger yap movies, music
[21:18] <dajhorn> cabrey: Okay.
[21:18] <SunmanXII> fccf: huh? thats not there
[21:18] <fiber> hello... i'm having some problems... i just put together a new system (i7 920+asus p6t v2) but when i boot from the CD, once i pick an option from the grub menu, it stalls for a while then says "error reading disk"... the only thing that works is the memory test... anyone have any ideas? it's not the cd (i've burned multiple cd's with different disk types).
[21:18] <deadnix> stream
[21:18] <rsl|noob> does http://pastie.org/498235 make sense to anyone? i'm copying the passphrase from the clipboard to both, just to prove it's the same but ssh-add is determined to tell me it doesn't match.
[21:18] <cabrey> PastorKarr, I can't be sure, but I think packages are downloaded to the harddrive
[21:18] <resno> deadnix: never tried doing it in linux, only windows and use need media player. does tversity work in linux?
[21:19] <resno> is there a tversity version for linux?
[21:19] <splitz> do someone know if it is possible to get amarok remember where you are in a podcast? like iTunes.
[21:19] <PastorKarr> =0
[21:19] <the1corrupted> SunmanXII: If the resolution you want isn't in Ubuntu's display, then you probably don't have the right driver (or one at all) for your graphics card.
[21:19] <Lilarcor> deadnix: use a VM with windows and use tversity
[21:19] <volo1> Does anyone know if it is legal to resell OpenOffice under a different name? Check out what appeared in gmail in my margins: http://www.officebestdeall.com/
[21:19] <deadnix> there should be something similar, ill try to google magic something :)
[21:19] <cabrey> volo1, it is legal but you have to state that it is derived from openoffice
[21:19] <sjokkis> can ubuntu connect to network shares depending on which wlan i'm on?
[21:20] <Lilarcor> deadnix: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=dlna+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[21:20] <cabrey> also it is not ethical unless you are contributing back to the project
[21:20] <SunmanXII> the1corrupted: no... well i cant see what resolutions i have because whenever i try to change it it gives me the error message i pasted
[21:20] <chocobanana> fiber: I would advise you to do a minimal installation and once it's finished do a sudo apt-get install Ubuntu-Desktop
[21:20] <Spec> volo1: as long as it adheres to the gpl license then it's fine
[21:20] <volo1> cabrey: thanks -- I might hop on this. Just some ad copy, a landing page, and then take like 35% of the profits and pay into the OO fund.
[21:20] <Spec> volo1: and doesn't infringe on any copyrights or trademarks
[21:21] <volo1> Thanks Spec
[21:21] <Lilarcor> sjokkis: if you're on the same network segment with shares available..you shouldn't have any problems
[21:21] <fiber> chocobanana: and this would be with the alternate cd?
[21:21] <Spec> volo1: actually, it has to adhere to the LGPL
[21:22] <resno> deadnix: http://www.rbgrn.net/content/21-how-to-choose-dlna-media-server-windows-mac-os-x-or-linux found this list
[21:22] <volo1> Spec: I'll have to read that over carefully.
[21:22] <SunmanXII> fccf: also, there is no System->Preferences->Display
[21:22] <volo1> Nothing like the smell of sweet $$$$ in a down economy.
[21:22] <Mow> um ok but how do I install metacity
[21:22] <volo1> Spec: and then for certain I would take 35% and contribute back to the OO fund
[21:22] <resno> Mow: metacity is installed by default
[21:23] <fiber> chocobanana: if it's any help, grub displays a memory address in the upper-corner... 104280EF
[21:23] <Spec> volo1: good luck with that, I wouldn't recommend that ;)
[21:23] <Mow> I did what you said but no icon or place in the menu shows it
[21:23] <splitz> do someone know if it is possible to get amarok remember where you are in a podcast? like iTunes.
[21:23] <Mow> ok but how do I use it..
[21:23] <CodePoe7> Hello everybody. I'm having a weird problem where sound works if I start X with gdm, but not if I start it with startx. Any ideas?
[21:23] <resno> Mow:  dowlnoad themes for it and install
[21:23] <resno> !themes
[21:23] <chocobanana> fiber: there's a speficic iso, one moment
[21:23] <resno> !themes | mow
[21:24] <Mow> does it matter what kind of theme I download and how do i install them...im clueless..ill read above i supose...
[21:24] <SunmanXII> fccf: are you there?
[21:24] <chocobanana> fiber: do you have a wired or wireless internet connection?
[21:24] <fccf> SunmanXII: There used to be - it is now System>perf>screen resolution -- which is xrandr and should work ..  you may have the wrong driver - or wrong component for said driver
[21:25] <pvvni> What's a good way to download something with support to resume the download should it fail
[21:25] <PastorKarr> rawr
[21:25] <pvvni> Bit torrent does not count
[21:25] <PastorKarr> damn
[21:25] <pvvni> I've been trying to download an ubuntu iso here at work, but the internet is so pineappley that it has failed about 8 times so far
[21:25] <pvvni> and I've had to restart the dl
[21:25] <cabrey> pvvni, use torrents
[21:25] <PastorKarr> xubumti-desktop is still way to big
[21:25] <pvvni> cabrey: 13:23 < pvvni> Bit torrent does not count
[21:25] <SunmanXII> fccf: thats what gives me the error - when i try to use that menu. this only stopped working when i switchted to hardy - and the driver stayed the same . do i need a new one?
[21:25] <cabrey> why not? it's fast & acts like a download manager
[21:26] <fccf> PastorKarr: do you need something tiny - like 100mb or less?
[21:26] <CodePoe7> Perhaps his work blocks BT traffic?
[21:26] <fiber> chocobanana: wired
[21:26] <imdonatello> !ubottu
[21:26] <fccf> SunmanXII: Not sure - hardy should work as good as any
[21:26] <chocobanana> fiber: great! here you go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD :)
[21:27] <fccf> SunmanXII: Have you tried updating?
[21:27] <chocobanana> fiber: if that doesn't work, then this is another option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:27] <PastorKarr> fccf: im looking for a general linux desktop with basics like firefox and gedit, thats really all.  and to fit on 2 gb thimb drive
[21:27] <chocobanana> fiber: sorry wrong link. This is the correct alternative solution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:27] <casey_> can i change root premissions by sigmimg in on root?
[21:27] <fccf> Puppy linux comes with almost everything you need .. firefox clone is included - firefox is available
[21:28] <fccf> PastorKarr: ^^^
[21:28] <fiber> chocobanana: heh, yea... i'll just do that... i wanted to avoid that but looks like i have no choice
[21:28] <whileimhere> HI. I am trying to use the pcsx emulator from the Synaptic Repos. I do not seem to have any audio with it. I do have normal audio on the system. Anyone know anything about it?
[21:28] <Brack10> casey_: You can't login as root, do things that require admin with sudo
[21:28] <Brack10> casey_: man sudo
[21:28] <fccf> PastorKarr: and it will automatically install on a thumbdrive
[21:28] <SunmanXII> fccf: actually my update manager doesnt igve me the option of upgrading to 8.10
[21:28] <PastorKarr> allright il look into it
[21:28] <cabrey> SunmanXII, change that in System > Administration > Software Sources
[21:29] <fccf> SunmanXII: not upgrade ... update
[21:29] <chocobanana> fiber: the minimal installation is pretty easy and quick
[21:29] <goluk> buenas tardes
[21:29] <chocobanana> hola
[21:29] <Get_Sum> I installed Skype the other day (followed the instructions from the skype website); it worked fine, but now I can't see it in the menus anywhere! how do I launch it?
[21:29] <SunmanXII> fccf: update what exactly?
[21:29] <cabrey> Get_Sum, It should be under internet
[21:29] <moxfalder> how to check harddisks for BAD sectors ?
[21:30] <darthanubis> Get_Sum, you should have just installed it from the repso
[21:30] <darthanubis> repos
[21:30] <fccf> SunmanXII: the update manager will update everything to the latest for hardy... this may fix things
[21:30] <Shaudh> Myrtti: Thanks a lot, the sgid search paid off.. jdu was right.. but I was using the wrong program.. it should have been chmod g+s .. not chgrp +s ... Thanks everyone!!
[21:30] <deadnix> does wireless card netgear wn311b work on ubuntu 9
[21:30] <whileimhere> If I do not want pulse audio how can I get rid of it and use alsa?
[21:30] <Get_Sum> yeh, I thought that's where it was the other day; but now I can't see it there (under internet)
[21:30] <darthanubis> Get_Sum, look into getdebs and ubuntutweak
[21:30] <Myrtti> Shaudh: hehe, np
[21:30] <CodePoe7> I'm having a problem with sound. It works fine when X isnt running, or if I start X with gdm, but not if I start X with startx and .xinitrc. Any ideas?
[21:31] <darthanubis> ppl still use startx?
[21:31] <SunmanXII> fccf: i did, and thats when things went wrong :-)
[21:31] <jussi01> darthanubis: please dont recomend outside repos in this channel, with the exception of medibuntu.
[21:31] <darthanubis> great
[21:31] <coz_> moxfalder, try here  also just google    linux  check hard driver bad sectors
[21:31] <coz_> moxfalder,   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/how-to-i-check-a-linux-formated-hard-drive-for-bad-sectors-151018/
[21:31] <darthanubis> please don't help people with their issues
[21:32] <darthanubis> jussi01, well he is not going to get skype help here then right?
[21:32] <jussi01> darthanubis: we cant support them with things from outside repositories.
[21:32] <goluk> alguien puede hacerme el favor de explicarme como hago para actualizar el correcto ortografico de openoffice 3, ya que le doy corrector ortografico pero este no reconoce palabras mal escritas
[21:32] <darthanubis> !es \ goluk
[21:32] <cabrey> !es
[21:32] <darthanubis> !es | goluk
[21:32] <CodePoe7> I use startx cause I'm not a fan of the graphical login. Does gdm set up audio too?
[21:33] <moxfalder> coz_: OK, google linux check hard driver bad sectors (joke)
[21:33] <chocobanana> goluk: momentito pff
[21:33] <wigglez> hey i created a launcher on the desktop, how would i run this as root
[21:33] <jposorski> i cant get ubuntu to recognize my sound card any ideas?
[21:33] <cabrey> wigglez, in the properties, put gksuu in front of the command
[21:34] <fccf> SunmanXII: no you upgraded to hardy ... hardy has been updated since you upgraded
[21:34] <cabrey> gksu*
[21:34] <darthanubis> wigglez, from terminal as root
[21:34] <wigglez> oo ok thanks
[21:34] <wigglez> nice it works
[21:34] <SunmanXII> fccf: i also updated everything i could when i updgraded. and i still have the issues
[21:34] <wigglez> thanks alot man :)
[21:34] <darthanubis> np
[21:35] <fccf> SunmanXII: when did you upgrade?
[21:35] <chazco> Anyone know how to fix evtouch crashes on Ubuntu (bug reports filed)? Also, anyone know how to use WPA enterprise with iwl3945 (bug reports filed)? Finally, anyone know how to fix the tcp_window_scaling issue without disabling tcp_window_scaling?
[21:35] <Mow> ok ive just about had it...How do you control your themes with no theme control
[21:35] <Mow> I have themes but I cant use any of them and I have no idea how...
[21:35] <SunmanXII> fccf: i did all the updates i had a few weeks ago
[21:35] <Mow> I had emerald but that doesnt work
[21:35] <darthanubis> !theme
[21:35] <fccf> SunmanXII:  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list -- you may still be using an older repository
[21:35] <casey_> what do i type in sudo to change the root promissions on /media/Server?
[21:35] <whileimhere> I have the output from the terminal of my soundcard. It is at http://pastebin.com/d5b487a1a Can anyone tell me what it means?
[21:36] <darthanubis> casey_, rephrase
[21:36] <Mow> ok ive seen the find your themse over and over i dont need themes I need the program that puts them on..
[21:36] <darthanubis> Mow, the "program"' is YOU
[21:37] <Mow> and the ones that are on the system that I have arnt there...
[21:37] <darthanubis> the themes come with instructions
[21:37] <SunmanXII> fccf: http://pastebin.com/m36a1873d
[21:37] <darthanubis> Mow, have you rt-clicked the desktop?
[21:37] <casey_> what do i type in sudo to change the promissions on a directory?
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Themes are seldom 100% complete
[21:37] <cabrey> casey_, what are you trying to accomplish?
[21:37] <Mow> k change the backround thats it
[21:38] <jposorski> i keep getting an error that says No volume control elements and/or devices found. anyone got any ideas
[21:38] <darthanubis> casey_, google linux permissions, you will be enlightened
[21:38] <darthanubis> casey_, it is not a sudo specific thing
[21:38] <resno> Mow: are you just trying to change the background image?
[21:38] <Mow> im trying to load the themes I downloaded ten thousand times
[21:38] <darthanubis> jposorski, maybe your sound card is not supported?
[21:39] <darthanubis> Most themes are drag and drop
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Are they *.tgz etc?
[21:39] <darthanubis> but you have to read to know that
[21:39] <darthanubis> some are not
[21:39] <Mow> tar.gz
[21:39] <wildc4rd> evening all
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Try this first.  Open the theme manager and drag and drop one in there
[21:40] <darthanubis> Mow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428189
[21:40] <darthanubis> all of two seconds to google and paste that link
[21:40] <darthanubis> please try it some time?
[21:40] <fccf> SunmanXII: It may be that backports is causing a newer(broken) version to be installed .. load syanptic and see if any of xorg ati fglrx xrandr etc are using backports - this could be your problem
[21:40] <darthanubis> never had backports break anything
[21:41] <SunmanXII> fccf: how do i see if they are using backports?
[21:41] <Mow> see it says go to system prefs and themes
[21:41] <Mow> I dont have that option its not there for some reason
[21:41] <darthanubis> SunmanXII, if you don't know, then most likely you are not using them
[21:41] <chazco> Anyone know of a fix for this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272185 ?
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow try system-pref - appearance- thmem
[21:42] <darthanubis> Mow, rt-click the desktop please
[21:42] <fccf> SunmanXII: look at properties for a package - in the versions tab .. you will see what I mean
[21:42] <Mow> keeps saying there was an error
[21:42] <benc2> where can I find the private ssh key of a user?
[21:42] <darthanubis> Get_Sum, I got in trouble for it, but I knew it'd work perfectly
[21:42] <jdu> in .ssh, right?
[21:42] <Get_Sum> ty
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Is these a wm theme or a login window theme etc
[21:43] <darthanubis> np
[21:43] <bastid_raZor> benc2; in their home/.ssh/
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> is this
[21:43] <benc2> bastid_raZor: can't find this folder
[21:43] <dajhorn> whileimhere: Looks like the computer doesn't have that soundcard. Use `lspci` or somesuch to check for actual hardware.
[21:43] <Mow> ?...All im in is apearence preferances and I tried to drag the the.tar.gz to it and it gives me an errpr
[21:43] <Mow> error
[21:44] <Mow> keep saying that there not valid themes
[21:44] <chazco> Mow - What is the URL to theme you're trying to install?
[21:44] <SunmanXII> fccf: i checked, and i guess none of them are...
[21:44] <benc2> bastid_raZor:  but I can log in to a remote server without ssh so I must have it
[21:44] <fccf> benc2 ... /home/usersusername/.ssh - you may have to go to the view tab and show hidden files
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> are you on the screen where you can see and change themes that are already in your computer
[21:44] <Mow> idk I downloaded a bunch of them because non of them are working
[21:44] <Mow> yes
[21:44] <Mow> jack
[21:44] <Mow> I am
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> are you on the screen where you can see and change themes that are already in your computer
[21:44] <fccf> SunmanXII: Guessing doesn't work --- dig deeper
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry
[21:45] <SunmanXII> fccf: then how do i check?
[21:45] <darthanubis> SunmanXII, if you don't know, then most likely you are not using them
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Let me find a theme for you to try,
[21:45] <Mow> alright I just dont understand..I went to all those ones that were listed
[21:45] <darthanubis> SunmanXII, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[21:46] <darthanubis> Is it against channel rules to use Google?
[21:46] <cabrey> Mow, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCOBhUpV9XA
[21:46] <cabrey> that'll show you how to install a theme
[21:46] <darthanubis> cabrey, did you use google?
[21:46] <darthanubis> :P
[21:46] <fccf> darthanubis: I think it is against channel rules not to use Google
[21:46] <irish_tux> ello all
[21:46] <SunmanXII> OK thenim not using them! thats what I said!
[21:46] <benc2> fccf: thanks
[21:46] <Mow> bah I havent got flash yet...
[21:47] <cabrey> darthanubis, youtube
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Orbital+Pack?content=59920    for a sec
[21:47] <Mow> been trying to do one thing at a time been messing around with themes for hours...
[21:47] <whileimhere1> dajhorn here is my output in the pastebin http://pastebin.com/m1b92eaca
[21:47] <sam_> Hello ppl
[21:47] <darthanubis> cabrey, lol I see it is a youtube link, but I thought you found the link by searching the great google
[21:47] <darthanubis> sam_, yo
[21:47] <darthanubis> !ask |sam
[21:48] <somaunn_> is there any other screenreader than orca ?
[21:48] <cabrey> KISS
[21:48] <cabrey> keep it  simple stupid
[21:48] <darthanubis> really?
[21:48] <sam_> It's my first time to be here
[21:49] <darthanubis> sam_, welcome!
[21:49] <Mow> ok...that went in but what would explain no other kind of theme im trying not working?..And it wont let me use that them
[21:49] <sam_> thx dartanubis
[21:49] <roy_hobbs> Where is the setting stored in gnome-ssh-askpass for load key on startup?
[21:49] <Mow> it just put it in my theme aperence box
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Get the top item from the downloads and drop it onto your theme manager
[21:49] <darthanubis> sam_, google will help narrow your query down to something specific if you require help.
[21:49] <Mow> I did
[21:49] <sam_> ok
[21:50] <dajhorn> whileimhere1: You could have an update bug.  Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409116
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Ok so it is working correctly.  You will need to read up on the different themes, there are themes for the login if you use one.. those are gdm themes
[21:50] <casey_> what does execute mean?
[21:50] <_jonesy_> Is there a way to create a bootable USB thumb drive of Ubuntu 9.04 from a Mac running OS 10.5?
[21:50] <resno> casey_: execute means to run
[21:51] <dajhorn> whileimhere1: Check the output of `lsmod` for the snd-intel8x0 driver too.
[21:51] <whileimhere1> dajhorn thanks i will try this.
[21:51] <roy_hobbs> _jonesy_: try UNETBOOTIN
[21:51] <Mow> what would explain why the other themes I downloaded wont work are they a different kind of configuration?..
[21:51] <Mow> and thanks for all the help
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow Stick with gtk-2 themes in general and themes are hit and miss and seldom a complete package with everything you see in their screenshots
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow glad to help
[21:52] <_L3o0_> Case: i'm trying to connect to an FTP server.. and after placing the password, returns an error "There is no support for this operation" Any1 know why? PS: There's proxy / auth
[21:53] <Mow> so I should be able to switch over to KDE and do the same thing with themes correct?
[21:53] <cabrey> Mow, not exactly
[21:53] <cabrey> they use a different system
[21:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow I have not used kde in years, but I am sure you can
[21:54] <cabrey> You might want to /join #kubuntu and ask
[21:54] <Xodiac13> i cant get my video to showing when i play games in wine i can here music but the screen is black
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Mow I set my kubuntu to look like XP
[21:54] <id10t> 'lo all
[21:54] <cabrey> Xodiac13, what game?
[21:55] <cabrey> or all of them?
[21:55] <Gourlis> I'm the only one in this world who have Ubuntu 8.10 ? :P
[21:55] <Xodiac13> cabrey: dod source, team fortress 2 and so on
[21:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Gourlis Nope, got it here too
[21:55] <cabrey> Xodiac13, did you install directx9?
[21:55] <whileimhere1> dajhorn Thank you that last URL did it for me.
[21:55] <Xodiac13> cabrey: uhm i might need to do that
[21:56] <Xodiac13> cabrey: but it comes with it
[21:56] <dajhorn> whileimhere1: Np.
[21:56] <id10t> got a grub question... have ubuntu 9.04 on a usb drive, works fine to boot on several computers that are like where it was installed... other machines (more drives) give an error 2... I'm assuming this is the hd(X,Y) for the / partition changing.. but, when I edit the grub line during boot, it won't tab-complete device names/UUIDs/etc
[21:56] <SunmanXII> so uhh,... i guess theres no solution to my problem?
[21:56] <Xodiac13> cabrey: i dont understand
[21:56] <Xodiac13> cabrey: i will download it and install it then
[21:56] <cabrey> if it came with it, it is probably already installed
[21:56] <cabrey> What gfx card do you have?
[21:56] <whileimhere1> dajhorn who would have guessed it.
[21:56] <Xodiac13> cabrey: i have a radeon x1200
[21:57] <guntbert> !who | cabrey
[21:57] <shubbar> i want the paper A4 and the setting in /etc/papersize is A4 yet the default is still Letter size. How can I change it?
[21:57] <_jonesy_> roy_hobbs: thanks
[21:57] <cabrey> I am a person :)
[21:57] <guntbert> cabrey: I didn't doubt that :-)
[21:57] <Gourlis> Jack_Sparrow, we will get updates on 8.10 or we are no updates now ?
[21:57] <cabrey> guntbert, ah whoops misread that
[21:58] <id10t> Gourlis, 8.10 will get updates for another year at least
[21:58] <Myrtti> id10t: until April, not more
[21:58] <Bob3> I have a laptop with 2 hard drives, When I installed Ubuntu 9.04 it somehow made them into 1 big drive, and now i want to unistall ubuntu and reinstall windows but am unable because first the hard drives are now apperently the wrong size and it can not format either of them, so how do i remove Ubuntu get my hard drives back to the correct size and install windows again?
[21:58] <Gourlis> id10t, alright, because other editions cannot be used with me.
[21:58] <id10t> Myrtti, well, ok then 10 months...
[21:58] <cabrey> Xodiac13, what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[21:58] <id10t> Gourlis, why not? and if LOOONG support is required, I'd recommend a LTS release..
[21:59] <Xodiac13> cabrey: 9.04
[21:59] <shubbar> Can anyone tell me how to change default paper size to A4?
[21:59] <Xodiac13> 32bit beacuse 64bit gave me problems
[21:59] <Gourlis> id10t, I want LTS too, but 8.04.2 FREEZES MY PC.
[21:59] <cabrey> !ati
[21:59] <guntbert> shubbar: about what application are you talking?
[21:59] <KenSharp> Bob3, do you have a Windows disc?
[22:00] <Bob3> KenSharp yes I have the disc when i put it in it can not format the now wrong sized hard drives and it can not install
[22:00] <id10t> anyone know why grub won't do tab completion on device names/ids during the boot process?
[22:01] <casey_> is this right?  sudo chmod  </media/Server> u+x+r+w
[22:01] <cabrey> Xodiac13, it seems your card is not supported by the latest ATI drivers anymore
[22:01] <imbezol> casey_: you don't actually type the < and >
[22:01] <shubbar> gnutbert, Firefox, OpenOffice ...
[22:01] <cabrey> and the latest drivers are required for 9.04
[22:01] <Xodiac13> cabrey: what
[22:01] <casey_> ok
[22:02] <KenSharp> Bob3, you need to either format over Ubuntu and lose everything, or you need to download a gparted live CD and resize the Ubuntu partition, and then install Windows into the new partition.  given that you though upgrading Wine was *really* difficult, I can't see you managing to do something like this without ballsing it up either
[22:02] <bc> $deity, I'm starting to hate pidgin.
[22:02] <Xodiac13> cabrey: damnit what can i do
[22:02] <Bob3> KenSharp I want a complete reinstall and lose everything how do i do that because just puttin in the windows cd and clicking format does not work everything is now wrong
[22:02] <guntbert> shubbar: ok, goto system/controlcenter, choose hardware, then printing
[22:02] <cabrey> Xodiac13, you can use the open source driver which you are more than likely using right now
[22:03] <Xodiac13> cabrey: so... i cant use wine then
[22:03] <cabrey> Xodiac13, but the games problem is more than likely because of the driver issu
[22:03] <cabrey> e
[22:03] <KenSharp> i was right then
[22:03] <Xodiac13> cabrey: so what if i change distro will it fix it
[22:03] <shubbar> gnutbert, Gnome?
[22:03] <cabrey> Xodiac13, If you downgrade to 8.10, you can use the official ATI drivers
[22:03] <Xodiac13> cabrey: because i was using mandriva 2008 before i deployed
[22:03] <Bob3> KenSharp how do i format over Ubuntu how do i get it back to the correct sizes for the hard drives, how do i remove Ubuntu and install windows
[22:04] <Xodiac13> cabrey: okay will do
[22:04] <Xodiac13> cabrey: thank you
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob3 You simply install windows  .. see #windows
[22:04] <shubbar> gnutbert, printing, you want to change the printer defaults
[22:04] <guntbert> shubbar: yes, gnome (and its guntbertn not gnutbert, use <tab> to autocomplete nicknames)
[22:04] <Bram_P> hello, I'm searching for a program which makes it possible to login to rapidshare (or even more file sharing sites) and that when I put in a link it will download it
[22:04] <Bram_P> does anyone know of such a program?
[22:05] <boss_mc> guntbert: it's guntbert...
[22:05] <Xodiac13> cabrey: is 8.10 just the updates i need to download 8.04 right?
[22:05] <id10t> Bram_P, i think i saw a firefox extension to do something similar
[22:05] <shubbar> gnutbert, its A4 for the printer, yet the programs default is Letter
[22:05] <Xodiac13> cabrey: and is the 8.10 64bit good or am i better using the 32bit
[22:05] <Bob3> Jack_Sparrown that did not work I say again that did not wrok, because i have 2 hard drives one of 90 something the other of 40 something Ubuntu has somehow changed it to one 140 something and one 5 something and now when i put in the windows cd it can not format the hard drives which are of wrong size and it can not install
[22:05] <guntbert> boss_mc: thank you for telling me.., my fingers are getting crazy :-))
[22:05] <cabrey> Xodiac13, If you're running 9.04 now, then you have to download 8.10 disk
[22:05] <cabrey> Xodiac13, never used 64 bit im afraid
[22:06] <Xodiac13> cabrey: but the download says on ubuntu.com only 9.04 and 8.04
[22:06] <boss_mc> guntbert: always nice to point out other's keyboard related failings... (I have so many of my own :-()
[22:06] <Guest87440> halo cabrones
[22:06] <Bram_P> id10t: do you remember the name of it?
[22:06] <guntbert> shubbar: are you where I told you to go?
[22:06] <jdu> I have a computer that complains about /lib/modules/2.../volatile/* not being writable but they are; any ideas?
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob3 Get ANY disk partitioning program and remove the partitions.
[22:06] <guntbert> boss_mc: :-))
[22:06] <id10t> Bram_P, nope. i was looking for something that would grab flv files out of utube, etc. for me..
[22:06] <cabrey> Xodiac13, you can download 8.04 which is a LTS then upgrade to 8.10 or just try and use 8.04
[22:06] <PastorKarr> is there any* way at all to get either gnome or xfce on without the extra packages?
[22:06] <cabrey> !LTS
[22:06] <Bob3> JacK_Sparrow how exactly do i do that Exactly  and when do i run it and how,
[22:07] <Xodiac13> cabrey: where can i download 8.10
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[22:07] <shubbar> guntbert, no, i went System, Administration, Printing
[22:07] <freeatlast> Hi - My display settings changed to 640X480 - Have Nvidia graphics - under System/Preferences/Screen Resoultion - I can not set higher than 640X480 - Any idea's how to fix ? ?
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Bob3 Beyond that. it is not a ubuntu support question
[22:07] <cabrey> Xodiac13, http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/
[22:07] <fccf> freeatlast: you need to use nvidia-settings as root
[22:07] <Bob3> Jac_sparrow Well Ubuntu got me into this mess and now i cant remove it
[22:07] <id10t> freeatlast, do you have the nvidia restricted drivers installed?
[22:07] <Xodiac13> cabrey: thank you
[22:08] <guntbert> shubbar: thats the same :-), now right click on a printer icon, choose properties
[22:08] <Xodiac13> does anyone know if the 8.10 64bit is good it wont mess anything up
[22:08] <Xodiac13> and has a lot of support
[22:08] <PastorKarr> is there any* way at all to get either gnome or xfce on without the extra packages?
[22:08] <PastorKarr> minal DE
[22:08] <PastorKarr> minimal*
[22:08] <Xodiac13> or am i better using the 32 bit 8.10
[22:08] <unop> PastorKarr, what are the extra packages you refer to?
[22:09] <guntbert> shubbar: and now choose printer options
[22:09] <shubbar> guntbert, did that for my default printer, and the Page Size is A4
[22:09] <PastorKarr> unop: like everything that included in the packages ubuntu-desktop, all ... everything basically, it come sout to be 1.9 GB after installed, which is way to much, im looking for just the desktop environment
[22:09] <Slart> PastorKarr: what's wrong with installing just the xfce package?
[22:09] <irish_tux> hey all
[22:10] <Slart> !info xfce4 | PastorKarr
[22:10] <PastorKarr> o.o
[22:10] <guntbert> shubbar: good, everything ok now?
[22:11] <PastorKarr> Slart: what about gnome?
[22:11] <Myrtti> !info xubuntu-desktop | PastorKarr
[22:11] <Slart> PastorKarr: don't tell you didn't even open synaptic to take a look
[22:11] <PastorKarr> O_O
[22:11] <Bram_P> id1ot: can't seem to find it in the addons
[22:11] <Slart> PastorKarr: well.. I think I'll leave that exercise to you
[22:11] <PastorKarr> ok so insted of apt-get install xubuntu-desktop its xubuntu-meta?
[22:11] <djp> just opened my gnome keyring. i thought i was meant to have a 'login' keyring, however i don't, only a 'default' keyring. is that correct?
[22:11] <boss_mc> Slart: installing that draws in the 'extra packages' he doesn't want
[22:12] <shubbar> guntbert, no, these are the setting and things are the same = not ok
[22:12] <Myrtti> PastorKarr: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop will do just fine
[22:12] <PastorKarr> yes it says its 1400 MB after beingstalled
[22:12] <Slart> boss_mc: xfce4 is a lot smaller than xubuntu-desktop
[22:12] <Xodiac13> is the 64bit 8.10 good or am i just better with the 32bit i just want to get most out of my laptop
[22:12] <Xodiac13> ?
[22:12] <Xodiac13> i guess i will found out my own
[22:13] <LoneWlf> so... here I am back at the command prompt again
[22:13] <LoneWlf> not that I mind, but...
[22:13] <LoneWlf> I do need graphics for some things
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[22:13] <boss_mc> Slart: sorry, that was Myrtti who sent him the ubottu link... I take it all back :)
[22:13] <LoneWlf> Does anyone know of any issues with Ubuntu 9.04 that would cause X to crash?
[22:13] <Slart> boss_mc: you're forgiven =)
[22:13] <cabrey> LoneWlf, what hardware do you have?
[22:14] <Slart> clear
[22:14] <Slart> bah
[22:14]  * boss_mc wipes sweat from brow and breaths again...
[22:14] <CodePoe7> I have working sound when X is not running, but when I startx, it stops. If I switch back to tty1, it works. Any idea why it wont work when I'm in X?
[22:14] <LoneWlf> cabrey - which part? I have an intel m/b with an intel chipset and an intel graphics card
[22:14] <PastorKarr> I am totally confused on the info I'm getting.  OK: i have a 2 GB thumb drive with a cli instasllation of 9.04 on it, and I want a basic DE of either gnome or xfce, but both those packages installed say atleast 1.5 GB
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !intel
[22:14] <LoneWlf> VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL
[22:15] <cabrey> LoneWlf, can you get the log for X?
[22:15] <LoneWlf> ty
[22:15] <LoneWlf> yes
[22:15] <LoneWlf> where shall I post that?
[22:15] <Slart> PastorKarr: try "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[22:15] <freeatlast> id10t, Sorry had a phone call - Yes I'am using the restricted drivers.
[22:15] <PastorKarr> k brb (im on irrsi with it now)
[22:16] <Xodiac13> is the 64bit 8.10 good or am i just better with the 32bit i just want to get most out of my laptop
[22:16] <cabrey> LoneWlf, pastebin
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> http://xwinman.org/          Has info  for Pastor
[22:16] <guntbert> shubbar: so you question was about openoffice really - sorry I misunderstood and am seeing the first time that the setting in gnome doesn't influence the setting on OO
[22:16] <beetle90210>  LoneWl:does x crash intermittantly after u log in , resulting in u getting logged out?
[22:16] <jdu> Xodiac13, probably best at the moment to use either 8.04.2 or 9.04
[22:16] <Slart> Xodiac13: how much memory do you have? >=4GB, go with 64bit  <4GB, go with 32bit
[22:17] <Xodiac13> jdu: someone told me so my video will work in 8.10 in wine to use this
[22:17] <LoneWlf> beetle90210 : no login possible, as GDM is starting, the screen blinks 3 times and then I get a screwed up dual image of the boot-time ubuntu screen
[22:17] <LoneWlf> cabrey : is that pastebin.com?
[22:17] <Xodiac13> SLart: i have 4 gig
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Xodiac13 Why not ask people in #winehq ?
[22:17] <cabrey> Xodiac13, it'll also work in 8.04, just not 9.04
[22:17] <benc2> I've installed a server from source
[22:17] <cabrey> LoneWlf, pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com
[22:17] <benc2> how do I upgrade?
[22:17] <Slart> Xodiac13: then go with 64bit.. the memory and a small increase in speed when it comes to certain software is kind of the only difference
[22:17] <beetle90210> lonewlf: not too sure about that sorry.. my boss has the issue that i described ...
[22:18] <Xodiac13> Slart: do i still get the same software and and stuff as the 32 bit
[22:18] <Slart> Xodiac13: yup
[22:18] <Xodiac13> Slart: nice
[22:18] <freeatlast> fccf, I'm using the Nvidia restricted drivers - any idea's on how to get display back to normal - it's still currently 640X480 ? ?
[22:19] <guntbert> but shubbar about that issue you could ask in #openoffice.org
[22:19] <cabrey> freeatlast, can you use nvidia's tools?
[22:19] <fccf> freeatlast: sudo nvidia-settings - or install it
[22:19] <freeatlast> cabrey, Where is that listed? I have forgotten -sorry ?
[22:20] <guntbert> anyway I gotta go - bedtime - good luck to you shubbar
[22:20] <cabrey> freeatlast, see that fccf said ^^
[22:20] <freeatlast> cabrey, Oh ok - will try that.
[22:22] <freeatlast> fccf,  Got an error that said command not found.
[22:24] <cabrey> freeatlast, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[22:25] <fallore> what's the difference between a primary and logical partition?
[22:25] <freeatlast> cabrey, Ok will try that.
[22:26] <ruler> i cant able to call in google talk why?
[22:26] <superGear> http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
[22:27] <jdu> fallore, ,  generally, logical partitions are in extended partitions and you are not limited as to the number of them you can have
[22:27] <freeatlast> cabrey, Looks like it installed - probably need reboot correct?
[22:27] <maximilian-schro> hi everybody. i connected a new usb keyboard today. while starting my computer it always enters the bios setup. and i have no clue why. any idea?
[22:27] <cabrey> freeatlast, probably not, the module is the one that would need rebooting and thats already installed
[22:27] <ruler> can i make call in google talk
[22:27] <fallore> jdu: if i've only got one partition (and free space, trying to make another partition for an OS), should i go with primary?
[22:28] <something_> just installed netbook remix, how do I add an icon to home screen?
[22:28] <superGear> ruler: ask google
[22:28] <cabrey> ruler, do you have flash installed?
[22:28] <cabrey> something_, drag and drop
[22:28] <freeatlast> cabrey, Ok so what should I do check to see if I can change display higher?
[22:28] <ruler> cabrey : i have installed it
[22:28] <something_> cabrey, drag and drop from where? desktop?
[22:28] <Slart> fallore: not much, really. In every day computer life.. you can have at most 4 primary partions.. unlimited logical partitions.. not sure if boot has to be a primary partition or not.. I'm pretty sure wikipedia has a good article about this
[22:28] <cabrey> freeatlast, sudo nvidia-settings
[22:29] <cabrey> something_, are you running the netbook interface?
[22:29] <something_> cabrey, yes
[22:29] <jdu> fallore, probably the limit is 4 primary partition per hard drive
[22:29] <cabrey> ruler, is any error message given
[22:29] <fallore> alright, i'll just go with primary *shrug*
[22:30] <cabrey> something_, drag and drop an icon from another category to the initial panel
[22:30] <jdu> fallore,  probably was in response to question, not to cast doubt on there being a 4 limit
[22:30] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I ran into some issues pasting anything, this screen config is an odd one on me, so... I followed the second link and I'm trying the PPA fix, to _downgrade_...
[22:30] <LoneWlf> we'll see
[22:30] <something_> cabrey: the icon I want is not in other category
[22:30] <fallore> okay jdu. thanks
[22:30] <fallore> and thanks everyone else :)
[22:30] <cabrey> something_, you want to create a launcher?
[22:31] <hacklab> ubuntu suxs/leave #ubuntu
[22:31] <chuck_> Maximilian-schro stuck key?
[22:31] <hacklab> leave #ubuntu
[22:31] <something_> cabrey: I installed emacs using apt-get, and itś not showíng up in my home screen, so I have to start it up terminal
[22:31] <cabrey> !attitude > hacklab
[22:31] <ruler> cabrey: it is showing you have to install the google talk download client(windows only)
[22:31] <fallore> from that performance, i would guess hacklab's problem are clientside.
[22:31] <cabrey> emacs is a console based app
[22:31] <maximilian-schro> chuck_ i dont think so. at least i cant notice any key to be stucked
[22:32] <cabrey> ruler, Google has not released an official client for Linux or OS X, only Windows
[22:33] <cabrey> ruler, you'll have to take up the issue with them
[22:33] <salmon> just upgraded to 9.04 and i gotz no sound, i have looked online and noting they say seems to help, anyone know what it takes?
[22:33] <cabrey> ruler, or you could try wine
[22:33] <ruler> cabreg : thans
[22:34] <salmon> just upgraded to jaunty, and i have no sound, help?
[22:34] <fallore> is there a difference between adding a partition at the beginning and end of free space?
[22:35] <Slart> fallore: yes
[22:35] <freeatlast> cabrey, Boy this really frustrating - I have it the Nvidia control panel open on another screen - but when I click on anything it justs hops to top of screen - like it does not respond when I click on a button - It shows I'm using a CRT but am using a Asus 19 LCD Flat panel - Which has been fine for quite awhile.
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fallore  gnerally at the beggining
[22:35] <fallore> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[22:35] <freeatlast> cabrey, Another desktop is what I meant.
[22:35] <Slart> fallore: nothing major.. but if you add it at the beginning of the free space your remaining free space will be at the end... if you add it at the end of the free space you'll have the left over free space between the two partitions
[22:36] <cabrey> freeatlast, did you maximize the nvidia window?
[22:36] <fallore> ah that makes sense slart, thanks.
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> fallore are you trying to setup dual boot
[22:36] <cabrey> that happens to me sometimes to...
[22:36] <safruhani> can somebody gtive ubotu command for installing ati driver wiki page ?
[22:36] <Slart> fallore: but it won't affect the partitions.. they will work the same
[22:36] <jposorski> anyone got anyidea why studio wont find my sound card/drivers
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[22:36] <cabrey> freeatlast, if you did, unmaximize it and try again
[22:36] <freeatlast> cabrey, I believe it is not maximized - will check
[22:37] <fallore> Jack_Sparrow: yes. arch linux and windows xp (which is already installed)
[22:37] <cabrey> freeatlast, you can also hold down alt and click anywhere on the window to move it if that helps
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> fallore Please use the pastebin and show me your sudo fdisk -l or equal
[22:37] <safruhani> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:38] <fallore> Jack_Sparrow: i dont think i can. i'm on a laptop for irc, the comp in question is @ the archlinux installer
[22:38] <kurtisnelson> Wondering if there is a safe way to convert my debian lenny server install to a Ubuntu Desktop install with minimal data loss.
[22:38] <salmon> just upgraded to 9.04 and i have no sound, anyone know how to fix that?
[22:38] <LoneWlf> cabrey - no dice
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> fallore then I cant help much,  I do suggest you create an extended and create a sep /home since you are working at the partition level now anyhow
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[22:39] <Slart> kurtisnelson: backup, reinstall, restore backup? I don't know what will happen if you just switch repos.. don't do it if you value your data
[22:39] <cabrey> LoneWlf, does X even start in low graphics mode?
[22:39] <jposorski> anyone got anyidea why studio wont find my sound card/drivers
[22:39] <kurtisnelson> Slart: What would i need to backup? etc, home, var?
[22:40] <mona> what is the difference between ubuntu and windows 7
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> mona Please dont ask that here
[22:40] <LoneWlf> cabrey - no
[22:40] <Slart> kurtisnelson: well.. I would save /home and /etc ...and of course any other directory where you might have stuff you want to keep.. /var/www or such
[22:40] <LoneWlf> cabrey - it blinks three times and goes to that locked up, dual vision screen
[22:41] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I managed to copy my Xorg.0.log into my copy buffer, but pasting it is so far a looser
[22:41] <Serraphyn> How do i find out what processor ubuntu thinks I have?
[22:41] <LoneWlf> cabrey - can I give you another link?
[22:41] <Slart> mona: normally I wouldn't just point people to wikipedia.. but for this question I think it's for your own good
[22:41] <Mion> Serraphyn: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:41] <pippin1> hey
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart ty
[22:42] <Mion> Serraphyn: and/or `uname -p`
[22:42] <kurtisnelson> Slart: MySQL stores in var correct? I might as well just backup the whole system and then copy things over
[22:42] <cabrey> LoneWlf, yea
[22:42] <PastorKarr> ok i have xfce4, how to start it?
[22:42] <cabrey> LoneWlf, can you see if you can use the vesa driver
[22:42] <Mion> Serraphyn: of the two, /proc/cpuinfo is more detailed
[22:42] <Serraphyn> Mion, the first cat thingy worked, the other gave me unknown, but thanks
[22:42] <netbios> hi, have a problem with my ssh connection, anybody who could help?
[22:42] <cabrey> LoneWlf, stop using the nvidia one temporaryily, see if that helps
[22:43] <parigaudi> hi
[22:43] <jposorski> anyone got anyidea why studio wont find my sound card/drivers
[22:43] <Slart> kurtisnelson: I don't really know where mysql stores its stuff.. /var seems like a probable place. If you have the diskspace just copy everything.. run the system for a couple of weeks and then remove the stuff you didn't need..
[22:43] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I'm using the intel one... I _think_... the alt link is http://mtdews.com/Xorg.0.log
[22:43] <parigaudi> i just installed ubuntu via debootstrap from another distro.
[22:44] <kurtisnelson> Slart: Any chance http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/hacks/opensource/0596527209/i-0596527209-chp-6-sect-13.html will work?
[22:44] <parigaudi> is there a generic system administration utility for ubuntu (an equivalent to yast under suse or drakconf under mandriva) ?
[22:44] <LoneWlf> cabrey - at least, I think I'm using the intel driver... I will try to force it to the Vesa one?
[22:44] <tannersummers> aerial combt simulator
[22:44] <tannersummers> anyone played it?
[22:45] <cabrey> LoneWlf, don't you have a nvidia card?
[22:45] <PastorKarr> ok i have xfce4, how to start it?
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !games > tannersummers
[22:45] <cabrey> LoneWlf, whoops sorry i mixed you up with somebody else
[22:45] <Slart> kurtisnelson: I don't really know.. it's not a supported/recommended way of doing it.. and that howto is pretty dated, source'o'matic hasn't existed for more than a year, for example
[22:45] <tannersummers> should have saw that...
[22:46] <kurtisnelson> Slart: I'll just do a backup first, and try it for kicks.
[22:46] <cabrey> LoneWlf, if you reboot and at grub choose the recovery option, there is an option to try to fix X
[22:46] <kurtisnelson> Slart: Although now my backup TB drive won't even show up in dev
[22:46] <jposorski> anyone got anyidea why studio wont find my sound card/drivers
[22:46] <Slart> kurtisnelson: good luck.. I have a feeling you'll need it =)
[22:46] <djp> should i have a default.keyring or a login.keyring in my .gnome2/keyrings folder?
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jposorski Are you running ubuntu and you added the studio options or you install ubuntu studio
[22:47] <jposorski> studio was the first install should i have done an ungrade?
[22:48] <parigaudi> is there a console-based administration utility (e.g. for setting up networking, pppoe and the X display) under ubuntu?
[22:48] <LoneWlf> cabrey - when I updated my xorg.conf to have Driver 'vesa' in my configured device section, it jumped directly to the doublevision screen
[22:48] <salmon> just installed 9.04 and i have no sound, anyone know what is wrong, any help would be awesome
[22:48] <PastorKarr> :'(
[22:48] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I think it's attempt to use the vesa driver as a backup/default is the part that is locking me and giving me no keyboard interface anymore
[22:48] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I was going to start trying to take the alternative track of... I have an Optiplex GX280
[22:49] <mikeh789> could someone remind me how to log all commands and events going on on my machine in a terminal??
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> PastorKarr Those are not helpful in a busy channel. Please have patience
[22:49] <LoneWlf> cabrey - dumb down my search terms see if that gets me more results on google
[22:49] <cabrey> LoneWlf, you're using onboard video right?
[22:49] <LoneWlf> cabrey - yup
[22:49] <cabrey> LoneWlf, whats the mobo model?
[22:49] <LoneWlf> cabrey - is that in dmesg or in lspc -vvnn?
[22:49] <jposorski> jack_sparrow i installed the ubuntu studio
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jposorski They have a channel of thire own and they run the RT kernel not the generic if I am not mistaken
[22:50] <jposorski> ok
[22:50] <jposorski> ty
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !studio
[22:51] <cabrey> LoneWlf, I don't know if it would be listed in dmesg
[22:51] <LoneWlf> Intel Corporation 82801FB <--- tyhat one or
[22:51] <cabrey> LoneWlf, it would be  a lot to through
[22:51] <rv> top 5 applications dis week??
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !poll
[22:51] <dob_> hello guys
[22:51] <rv> k..
[22:51] <rv> thanks.
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[22:52] <LoneWlf> Intel Corporation 82915G/P/GV/GL/PL/910GL <--- that one
[22:52] <PastorKarr> how to you start the xfce4 DE?
[22:52] <Gourlis> id10t are you here ?
[22:52] <dob_> i had some trouble after my installation of 9.04, then i uninstalled grub, cause i wanted to reinstall it. Now it tells me that grub is a manually installed package
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[22:53] <dob_> i have no internetconnection on the system and only the installcd
[22:53] <dob_> i did a apt-get remove --purge grub
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> dob_ The live cd will work, see the link.
[22:53] <LoneWlf> cabrey - thanks for trying to help, I have to commute :)
[22:54] <Slart> PastorKarr: what happens when you boot up the computer?
[22:54] <cabrey> LoneWlf, aww
[22:54] <Slart> PastorKarr: you end up at a command line? or gnome?
[22:54] <PastorKarr> Slart: just starts up command line
[22:54] <rv> any idea wen is google chrome in linux gonna release....n is it gonna b fast enough of faster than firefox??
[22:54] <PastorKarr> it was a cli, then i installed xfce4
[22:54] <cabrey> LoneWlf, this is one of the most elusive problems
[22:54] <dob_> yes i am able to start from the livecd and installed grub manually, but i want to have the grub binary back ion my system
[22:54] <Slart> PastorKarr: what happens if you try to run "xfce-session" ?
[22:54] <LoneWlf> cabrey - I'll tackle it again either late tonight or in the morning, I want to run 9.04, I am not happy with my 8.10
[22:54] <dob_> i didn't find a deb of grub on the livecd
[22:54] <Slart> PastorKarr: or "xfce4-session" ?
[22:55] <PastorKarr> Slart: well h/o il try that, but im os irssi right now so il brb
[22:55] <PastorKarr> xD
[22:56] <dob_> the links didn't help me
[22:56] <PastorKarr> Slart: I get a GTK error saying 'mode not found'
[22:56] <Timmmm> Ok, this is totally off-topic, but someone here will know. What's the name of that site where they have dozens of flash videos explaining why god doesn't exist. It's something catchy. But obviously not catchy enough!
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> dob_ No deb of grub, correct, you can use aptoncd etc to get it over there.
[22:56] <dob_> there is no explanation of how to do a apt-get install grub
[22:56] <Slart> PastorKarr: ok.. "sudo startxfce4"? does that work?
[22:56] <PastorKarr> il try
[22:56] <dob_> aptoncd?
[22:56] <mona> why is ubuntu popular than other linux versions
[22:56] <Slart> PassePartouT: or even "startx"
[22:57] <Apollo2366> Hey, is the GCC included automatically in Ubuntu?
[22:57] <geirha> Slart: Maybe we should hint to him about !screen :)
[22:57] <mona> what makes ubuntu different than others linux system i ask this because i never tried it before
[22:57] <Scunizi> Most DVD's play for me.  I have 2 that are not recognized by the system and won't mount.  Any suggestions?
[22:57] <Flannel> Apollo2366: Technically.  But in order to be able to compile much, you'll want to install "build-essential"
[22:58] <Slart> mona: it's fairly polished, good package selection and a dedicated company with lots of money behind it..
[22:58] <salmon> hey! just upgraded to 9.04 and when i did i found i have no sound, anyone know what to do to fix this. i have searched online to find no real hope. so i cam here
[22:58] <Mion> mona: ubuntu got more hype than the rest, that's the main reason for it's popularity
[22:58] <PastorKarr> ok that* worked
[22:58] <Apollo2366> Flannel: and when I do that, can I just compile things from the command line?
[22:58] <dob_> Jack_Sparrow, what does aptoncd mean?
[22:58] <rv> wat s the reason for increased bandwidth in ubuntu compared to weindow??
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Mion Not the hard work of those of us that support it or anything like that..
[22:58] <Scunizi> Mion: mona that and the community supporting it is pretty huge.
[22:58] <PastorKarr> and its what I wanted too... there like, nothing, not programs at all, or themes, but this is what I wanted
[22:58] <Flannel> Apollo2366: yep
[22:58] <PastorKarr> thanks guys
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[22:58] <Apollo2366> Flannel: Cool, thanks
[22:59] <Slart> mona: but if you just look at the operating system it's not that different from SUSE, Debian or any other major distro
[22:59] <mona> slso u mean technically it is the same as others no better user interface than others right
[22:59] <Slart> mona: technically most linux distros are the same..
[22:59] <PastorKarr> btw, what the gnome equivlalent of the base DE, like xfce4
[22:59] <PastorKarr> like the pakage name
[22:59] <ryan__> 2p program that they use?
[22:59] <Ademan> can anyone with an intel MHD 4500 run this for me?      glxinfo | grep shading   and tell me what the output is? (if any...)
[22:59] <ryan__> hey does any1 have a linux p2p priogram that they use
[22:59] <Decepticon> dvtm is not a package for ubuntu?
[22:59] <mona> ok i see thanks
[22:59] <Mion> Jack_Sparrow: sadly, the new users don't care/know about communities, they just go for that cool thing that all the media is talking about
[23:00] <rask> hi
[23:00] <Gourlis> I tried 8.04.2, my screen was flickering, anyone knows how to fix this issue? Because now am on 8.10 and am better, but I like LTS edition.
[23:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Mion
[23:00] <rask> does anyone know how to disable the kernel msg "possible SYN flooding on port xxxx. Sending cookies."?
  It worked great, got Ubuntu up and running.  Just wanted to say thank you.
[23:01] <Gourlis> Jack_Sparrow, I never use effects.
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Mannafest Glad it all worked out
[23:01] <cowgarden> has anyone gnome-zeitgeist installed?
[23:01] <Ademan> ryan__: between those two i'd pick amule, but I actually use eMule in wine
[23:01] <Gourlis> Jack_Sparrow, I saw in many forums people have problems with 8.04.2 version with flickering but with no solution.
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Gourlis Video drivers have some work ahead of them.
[23:02] <Gourlis> Jack_Sparrow, excuse me.. Not flickering, Freezing *confused with 9.04*
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[23:02] <Treyh> I currently have many VM's running in vmware and would like to switch them to Ubuntu. Any suggestions on which virtualization software to use with Ubuntu?
[23:02] <dob_> @Jack_Sparrow, is it possible just to download the deb-file an reinstall it then via dpkg -i ? Where can i get the deb?
[23:02] <cabrey> Treyh, VirtualBox
[23:02] <Slart> Treyh: virtualbox is nice
[23:03] <Eternaut4> hi, does someone use rtorrent?
[23:03] <Slart> !vm | Treyh
[23:03] <kennyxyz> hi
[23:03] <orochi> Treyh: VMWare? :> It's available for both platforms
[23:03] <matrixblue> Treyh, I like VirtualBox but there are othe roptions like Qeu, etc
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> dob_ http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/grub-pc
[23:03] <Decepticon> Eternaut4 yes
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> that will get you close
[23:03] <Treyh> Will there be any conversion problems between vmware and virtualbox?
[23:03] <Gourlis> I'd like to have 8.04.2 with the latest updates but I did not find any solution to stop freezing.
[23:03] <Eternaut4> I've a problem with rtorrent, the following:
[23:04] <Mow> whats the code for flash player install in terminal
[23:04] <rask> does anyone know how to disable the kernel msg "possible SYN flooding on port xxxx. Sending cookies."? it's flooding my /v/l/m
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[23:04] <Treyh> Slart: the big thing is that i just want to be able to transfer them from vmware to vbox, does that transition seem to go pretty good?
[23:04] <Decepticon> Eternaut4 go to #rtorrent
[23:04] <Eternaut4> when I shut it down, and then I start it up again, all the torrents that where been downloaded disappear
[23:04] <Decepticon> Eternaut4 maybe youre not using a session dir
[23:04] <Slart> Treyh: oh.. I have no idea.. I've never tried to do that
[23:04] <Decepticon> Eternaut4 try #rtorrent, they know better
[23:05] <Treyh> Slart: ty
[23:05] <Slart> does ubuntu have something similar to the debian popularity-contest?
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart disrto-watch
[23:05] <Slart> !info popularity-contest
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry I cant type today at all
[23:05] <Flannel> Slart: We have the same thing.  Only problem is it has to be manually installed, so its only among people who want to have it installed
[23:06] <wolfwalker> I have an interesting conundrum. I ran into this in asoundconf:
[23:06] <Flannel> Slart: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[23:06] <wolfwalker> # MANUAL CHANGES TO THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN!
[23:06] <wolfwalker> #
[23:06] <wolfwalker> # Manual changes to the ALSA library configuration should be implemented
[23:06] <wolfwalker> # by editing the ~/.asoundrc file, not by editing this file.
[23:06] <FloodBot2> wolfwalker: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:06] <Slart> Flannel: ah.. I think I'll start sending people there when they ask a "anyone"-question.. =)
[23:06] <wolfwalker> But I can't find asoundrc.
[23:06] <Slart> Flannel: thanks for the link
[23:06] <Flannel> Slart: Eh?  That doesn't make sense.
[23:06] <PastorKarr> whats the package name for the basix gnome desktop? like xfce4 vs xubuntu-desktop?
[23:06] <ballzac> I need to install the snd-hda-intel driver in Ubuntu 9.04, how can I do this?
[23:07] <Captain_Obvious> If I type depmod in terminal should I be getting FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[23:07] <wolfwalker> I found this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872947
[23:07] <Mion> ballzac: you should have it, it's a part of the kernel, after all
[23:07] <Slart> Flannel: well.. they want to know if anyone runs this or that package.. that's where the info is
[23:07] <wolfwalker> But it was for back in 2005, and I know much has changed since then.
[23:07] <Mion> Captain_Obvious: su/sudo
[23:07] <ke-_-vin> Hi guys, any idea I can change the system fonts besides using gnome-appearance-properties
[23:07] <ballzac> Mion, thanks.  I guess my sound problems sit elsewhere.
[23:07] <Captain_Obvious> same thing with sudo
[23:07] <Flannel> Slart: That's not really a helpful reply (yes, its not a helpful question either, but...)
[23:08] <Mion> ballzac: lsmod, see if it's loaded, if not, modprobe it
[23:08] <Captain_Obvious> Actually, with sudo nothing seems to happen.
[23:08] <Mion> Captain_Obvious: that's good
[23:08] <Decepticon> is it possible to get more color schemes for htop
[23:08] <Mion> Captain_Obvious: echo $?
[23:08] <Mion> if it's 0, it worked
[23:08] <Slart> Flannel: sigh.. no, I guess not..
[23:08] <Mion> Decepticon: yes, you can also write your own
[23:09] <Decepticon> Mion can you tell me how, im not finding good info on google at all
[23:09] <Captain_Obvious> I am just learning Linux, trying to figure out why my system sounds don't work. I think it is permissions.
[23:09] <Captain_Obvious> not sure what you mean.
[23:10] <juannicolas> Hi, can someone tell me what mod I need to set my /var/spool/cron/crontabs in order to look like drwx-wx--T ??
[23:10] <Captain_Obvious> $
[23:11] <juannicolas> Hi, can someone tell me what mod I need to set my /var/spool/cron/crontabs in order to look like drwx-wx--T ?? right now is like drwxr-xr-x and none of the users can edit their own crontab
[23:11] <geirha> juannicolas: 1730
[23:12] <juannicolas> thx!
[23:12] <wolfwalker> I'm trying to change dmix period size in Ubuntu 9.04 and I can't find an .asoundrc
[23:12] <wolfwalker> where do I go from here?
[23:13] <rv> autoclean not working??
[23:13] <rv> any other parallels??
[23:13] <supersasho> hi guys.. i've got problem with my proFTPd.. i made one account that is used by 4 people.. but one of them blocks (he uses filezilla) the whole ftp to others with making several connections.. is there a way how to block this connections to i.e. 5 per IP address? but it would be still 1 account
[23:14] <chuck_> wolfwalker, you can create the file and alsa will use it
[23:14] <darthanubis> who do I see about abuse of OP power
[23:14] <darthanubis> ?
[23:14] <rv> any idea abt. autoclean??
[23:14] <darthanubis> particularly in #'s ubuntu related
[23:14] <wolfwalker> Okay.......... chuck_ where do I get one to use and what folder do I drop it in?
[23:15] <wolfwalker> chuck_ is this a valid one:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872947
[23:15] <wolfwalker> And do I drop it in /etc?
[23:16] <juannicolas> geirha: where can I find more info about permissions?
[23:16] <geirha> !permissions > juannicolas
[23:17] <chuck_> wolfwalker, gksudo ~/.assoundrc  type what you want in it and save
[23:18] <chuck_> wolfwalker, that should be asoundrc
[23:18] <PastorKarr> whats the package name for the basic gnome DE, like xfce4   (not the x/ubuntu-desktop packages meaning)
[23:19] <wolfwalker> chuck_ so terminal, gksudo ~/.asoundrc period_size 1024?
[23:19] <geirha> juannicolas: The wikipedia page "Chmod" covers setuid/gid and sticky bit as well
[23:19] <juannicolas> thx
[23:20] <wolfwalker> (I know just enough to royally screw up my whole system and have to just reinstall everything, so I'm trying to be careful for a change.)
[23:20] <Serraphyn> I just installed a new video card, how do I know if ubuntu is using it?
[23:20] <jimss> does any1 speak chinese in here for some help please?
[23:20] <Serraphyn> And I mean by using it that its using it correctly
[23:21] <wolfwalker> Serraphyn play Neverball on it.  If it will run, it's using the video card correctly. ^.^
[23:21] <wolfwalker> At least that's the test I use.  Mostly because I really like Neverball.
[23:21] <Serraphyn> Neverball?
[23:22] <eugo> my prism wifi card for my laptop is found as eth1, the wifi option in the network menu in ubuntu is greyd, yet the card is found
[23:22] <zortec> I'm trying to free up space in my home directory so that I can copy some files... .gnome2 takes up 10.9GB, is there any way to free up more space?
[23:23] <zortec> I only haev 6GB free
[23:24] <lorenzo> hi, whenever I start Ubuntu the appearances options are not loaded. The system fonts, icons etc are all set to tango. If I launch the gnome look manager, all goes back to normal without me having to do anything else. Anybody can help? This is really annoying and I have no idea what the heck I have messed up :) thank you all very much
[23:26] <infomomo> hey guys, where is the file containing the repositories by countries stored ?
[23:26] <chuck_> !ch|jimss,
[23:26] <infomomo> i tried looking in /etc/apt/sources.list and it was not there
[23:27] <chuck_> oops
[23:27] <Ademan> can anyone with an intel MHD 4500 run this for me?      glxinfo | grep shading   and tell me what their output is? (if any...) shouldn't be more than two or three lines max (i have one...)
[23:27] <Serraphyn> its working great, thanks for the idea to play neverball :)
[23:27] <chuck_> !cn|jimss,
[23:27] <UntouchableMX> hey guys, hows every 1
[23:28] <infomomo> UntouchableMX: great
[23:28] <fiber> ello... i just setup dual monitors (i love that gui... i feared editing the xorg.conf like olden times), but i can't figure out how to set the default monitor.... right now it's placin the panels on my secondary.... any help?
[23:28] <krazyjakee> hi all, i have a problem and need help
[23:28] <lorenzo>  hi, whenever I start Ubuntu the appearances options are not loaded. The system fonts, icons etc are all set to tango. If I launch the gnome look manager, all goes back to normal without me having to do anything else. Anybody can help? This is really annoying and I have no idea what the heck I have messed up :) thank you all very much
[23:28] <infomomo> krazyjakee: go ahead
[23:28] <krazyjakee> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libguichan-dev_0.8.1-4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libguichan.so', which is also in package libguichan
[23:28] <Techboy> hello
[23:28] <krazyjakee> this is when trying to install dev package
[23:29] <darthanubis> krazyjakee, remove both packages and reinstall the dev one first
[23:29] <joJoba> hi... can ubuntu play copy protected or DRMized wma files?
[23:29] <UntouchableMX> hey guys I finally made my wifi card work, but I gotta type in console sudo modprobe rtl8187 every time that I log in, and I need to connect, disconnect and reconnect again to get like 1 min of internet
[23:30] <joJoba> amarok or rythmbox vlc...
[23:30] <krazyjakee> darthanubis: they are dependant of each other
[23:30] <darthanubis> krazyjakee, lol, you think I don't know that?;)
[23:30] <darthanubis> follow the isntructions
[23:30] <lukilla> when i try to download certain games they wont download do you know why?
[23:31] <darthanubis> or not
[23:31] <Ademan> joJoba: I don't think so, even if they could you need to have the key to unlock those protected files.  I could be wrong though
[23:31] <bastid_raZor> UntouchableMX; you need to add rtl8187 to /etc/modules .. as for the disconnects.. no idea
[23:31] <Techboy> i just activated the drivers for my video card but i dont have extra resalousion sizes how can i add the correct size?
[23:31] <krazyjakee> i have completely removed all packages with guichan but when i try to install guichan-dev it says i must install all the others
[23:31] <darthanubis> lukilla, what?
[23:31] <Ademan> lukilla: you need to be more specific than that
[23:31] <aliciapg> could someone tell me where i can get help installing crossover? their room is non-responsive
[23:31] <UntouchableMX> bastid_raZor, can you please tell me how to add rtl8187 to the modules
[23:31] <lukilla> i mean i need certain packages but i don't know what packages i need to download games
[23:32] <darthanubis> lukilla, your going to have to be way more specific
[23:32] <bastid_raZor> UntouchableMX; gksudo gedit /etc/modules then add the module at the bottom
[23:32] <UntouchableMX> thanks
[23:33] <lukilla> ok i try to download games. But they say there bin files and i dont know why
[23:33] <darthanubis> !synaptic > lukilla
[23:33] <darthanubis> lukilla, you need to learn how to ask the question even. Download from when? When, how?
[23:33] <darthanubis> where?
[23:33] <lukilla> ok i try downloading games but they say i need an application to download it
[23:34] <darthanubis> lukilla, from where dude?
[23:34] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:34] <lukilla> nexion
[23:34] <lukilla> it's called maple story
[23:34] <darthanubis> lukilla, you can't just willy nilly download games from anywhere
[23:35] <lukilla> where do u download them from?
[23:35] <darthanubis> !repos
[23:35] <darthanubis> from those
[23:35] <darthanubis> repositories
[23:35] <krazyjakee> I get this in the terminal: /var/cache/apt/archives/libguichan-dev_0.8.1-4_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:35] <darthanubis> !synaptic
[23:35] <BiosElement> Anyone know if a Jaunty deb for Banshee 1.5 has been made up yet?
[23:35] <darthanubis> BiosElement, not yet
[23:35] <lorenzo>  hi, whenever I start Ubuntu the appearances options are not loaded. The system fonts, icons etc are all set to tango. If I launch the gnome look manager, all goes back to normal without me having to do anything else. Anybody can help? This is really annoying and I have no idea what the heck I have messed up :) thank you all very much
[23:35] <darthanubis> I'm waiting as well
[23:35] <linux> Hello!  I'm running Linux Mint 6 Fluxbox.  The root menu used to indicate submenus with an arrow, but not any more. How can I get that back?
[23:36] <BiosElement> darthanubis, Ahh, Figures. I thought it might be a tad early but hope reigns.
[23:36] <lukilla> ok thank you
[23:36] <erUSUL> !mint | linux
[23:36] <darthanubis> BiosElement, https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[23:36] <Techboy> would like some help adding reslutions higher than 800x600 just installed ubuntu
[23:36] <erUSUL> !fixres | Techboy
[23:36] <darthanubis> !display
[23:36] <bdsgindahouse> dont u think ubuntu has become very shitty-buggy in the last years??
[23:36] <BiosElement> darthanubis, Yep, added it a few minutes ago
[23:36] <krazyjakee> techboy: make sure your graphics card drivers are install properly
[23:36] <erUSUL> !language | bdsgindahouse
[23:36] <darthanubis> BiosElement, you are all set then
[23:36] <samd_> !mintsupport > linux
[23:36] <adam__> anyone know why a ppa might not work right in Synaptic?
[23:37] <BiosElement> bdsgindahouse, No, We don't. If we did, There wouldn't be 1382 people here.
[23:37] <darthanubis> we just have to wait or compile form source
[23:37] <darthanubis> I compiled RBox from source yesterday, only to find it had been packed today:)
[23:37] <BiosElement> darthanubis, I'll probably do that. >.> *wonders into dependency fun*
[23:37] <uskrewed> whats a popular rar client for ubuntu?
[23:37] <uskrewed> the normal archiver isn't working
[23:37] <erUSUL> !rar | uskrewed
[23:37] <krazyjakee> sudo apt-get install rar
[23:38] <alden```> hello world on ubuntu!
[23:38] <uskrewed> <3 krazyjakee
[23:38] <alden```> very nice os i must say
[23:38] <zortec> How do I get autoplay to work for my cdrom?
[23:38] <adam__> hello ubuntu users - just looking for some help installing XBMC, the ppa isn't working, am I in the right place?
[23:39] <alden```> can compete with microsoft
[23:39] <krazyjakee> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) - whhhyyyy??/
[23:39] <Techboy> yes that would be my next step how do i check installed drivers
[23:40] <Techboy> or in thiiis case for video drivers as many other drivers may come up lol
[23:40] <zortec> How do I get my cdrom to be recognized in ubuntu?
[23:40] <krazyjakee> System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:41] <Techboy> LOL god thats almost a DOH! awnser thx
[23:41] <krazyjakee> zortec try restarting, its worked for me before
[23:41] <adam__> hello everyone, can someone tell me where would get help with Synaptic?
[23:41] <Techboy> i was thinking i would have to enter a comand
[23:41] <krazyjakee> adam: here?
[23:41] <zortec> krazyjakee: Try restarting the computer?
[23:41] <stabin> linux amd64: any way to play avi files encoded with vp7 codec ? w64codecs installation/downloading from mplayer website did not help; w32codecs either. I guess it is impossible with 64bit linux - is it true?
[23:42] <krazyjakee> Techboy: you may have to though if your hardware is not listed
[23:42] <fccf> adam__: synaptic is your package manager - what do you need to do with it?
[23:42] <erUSUL> adam__: you are in the right place but "the ppa isn't working" does not help
[23:42] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | adam__
[23:42] <erUSUL> !details | adam__
[23:42] <krazyjakee> zortec: yes, i once couldn't access my cd-rom so i restarted and it just worked again, i dont know why :S
[23:43] <Techboy> yeah the driver acts like its going to download but dosent :(
[23:43] <adam__> its a bit tricky, none of the packages from the xbmc ppa show up in synaptic unless I remove every other repo, and then they can't install because of failed dependencies
[23:43] <zortec> krazyjakee: The cdrom is not even showing up
[23:43] <Barridus> is cups critical to printing in general?
[23:43] <krazyjakee> does it have power?
[23:43] <aliciapg> i'm trying to install a program but it keeps telling me to login as root or use su with no flags but i already have can anyone help?
[23:44] <erUSUL> adam__: probably you added the wrong lines (for a different version of ubuntu)
[23:44] <`Matir> aliciapg, use sudo to run the command(s)
[23:44] <jrib> aliciapg: be more specific
[23:44] <krazyjakee> alieciapg: what program?
[23:44] <`Matir> Barridus, it provides the cups framework
[23:44] <erUSUL> adam__: check that the ppa is for your ubuntu version
[23:44] <aliciapg> krazyjakee: crossover
[23:44] <`Matir> Barridus, err, printing framework
[23:44] <Welshy-Rob> can someone help me please,i use mozilla firefox and all of a suddern today when i execute it it operns up but over my like desktop and my top and bottom pannels and its like its full screen but its not the f11 i know that ?
[23:44] <Barridus> `Matir, ok thanks.  just looking for things i can get rid of to think the OS out
[23:44] <krazyjakee> aliciapg: sudo <command>
[23:45] <aliciapg> i am root atm
[23:45] <`Matir> Barridus, any particular reason you're trying to thin it out?
[23:45] <adam__> yes intrepid 8.10
[23:45] <erUSUL> adam__: maybe you added the jaunty ppa instead of the intrepid one ?
[23:45] <bastid_raZor> Welshy-Rob; you could resize it by holding alt then middle clicking the mouse and dragging
[23:45] <krazyjakee> aliciapg: i'm sorry i dont know the answer then
[23:45] <erUSUL> Welshy-Rob: you use compiz effects ?
[23:46] <Barridus> `Matir, to get it running better on lower spec machines :D  besides, i don't care much for bloat
[23:46] <keres> where are the existing files are you hard drive put when you run live CD?
[23:46] <Barridus> anyone got any good guides of stuff that's commonly and safe to rip out?
[23:47] <aliciapg> http://pastebin.com/d38e0e494 ...help?
[23:47] <adam__> ah no I've just seen the synaptic latest version says '9.04.1-intrepid1 (intrepid)' - that can't be right
[23:47] <fccf> keres: look in places
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> keres; you'll have to mount your harddrive in order to access things on it
[23:47] <Welshy-Rob> erUSUL, yes i am
[23:47] <keres> bastid_raZor: fstab?
[23:48] <erUSUL> Welshy-Rob: press f11 twice
[23:48] <Welshy-Rob> bastid_raZor, it dose nothing that
[23:48] <Tomodachi2> aliciapg:you have to sudo
[23:48] <Welshy-Rob> erUSUL, thanks it worked :)
[23:49] <erUSUL> Welshy-Rob: no problem
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> keres; it would be a good idea to know what /dev/sd* or /dev/hd* your partitions are.. then simply make a mount point  and sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint  for example
[23:49] <aliciapg> Tomodachi2: -_- that does nothing
[23:49] <creative1412> guys are ubuntu is 100% FREE (free as free speach ) like fedora ?
[23:49] <Mion> creative1412: none of them are
[23:49] <creative1412> dose fedora has a non free?
[23:49] <ed_debian> creative1412, They use some proprietary drivers (kernel modules)
[23:49] <creative1412> we have Nvidia
[23:50] <erUSUL> !ot | creative1412
[23:50] <creative1412> but they use the OS one Nouve
[23:50] <ed_debian> creative1412, : http://www.gnewsense.org/
[23:50] <creative1412> thanks ed
[23:51] <infomomo> Hey , guys i am trying to add a country-specific repository to my software Sources... Do you guys know where the country-Specific list is stored?  Have a look here: http://i41.tinypic.com/s3pwtj.png
[23:51] <zanff> hi all
[23:51] <fccf> aliciapg: requires glibc v2.9 .. what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:51] <zanff> noob question: I'm on ubuntu 8.04, is it possible to update to ubuntu 9.xx
[23:51] <zanff> ?
[23:51] <aliciapg> 9.04
[23:51] <fccf> !glibc
[23:51] <ed_debian> zanff, Absolutely!
[23:51] <jrib> infomomo: if it's not on there, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[23:51] <zanff> goo
[23:51] <zanff> d
[23:51] <erUSUL> infomomo: what kind of "country-specific repository" a full mirror ??
[23:51] <zanff> can I ask you how?
[23:52] <Apollo2366> 3 6 9
[23:52] <ed_debian> zanff, Yeah
[23:52] <infomomo> erUSUL: yes friend
[23:52] <Apollo2366> 12 15 18
[23:52] <Apollo2366> 21 24 27
[23:52] <jrib> Apollo2366: what are you doing?
[23:52] <ed_debian> Go to System -> Admin -> update manager
[23:52] <Apollo2366> THIRTY
[23:52] <erUSUL> infomomo: jrib is right if it is not there you will have to add it manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:52] <bastid_raZor> !upgrade > zanff
[23:52] <boss_mc> That's NUMBERWANG
[23:53] <Apollo2366> sorry
[23:53] <Apollo2366> wrong tab
[23:53] <infomomo> guys, the list of the mirrors from my pci must be on a file, i already edited that file once, just cant remembr
[23:53] <zortec> Did I make my /home too small? I want to do gaming and I have ran out of room, only have 6GB free... should I make it like 50GB?
[23:53] <fccf> aliciapg: seems that compatibility is a problem with glibc -- reccommend sticking to the debs
[23:53] <zanff> command not found
[23:53] <zanff> :(
[23:53] <ubuntu> guys would you recommend 64 bit or 32 bit? can someone tell me disadvantages of 64 bit over 32? I have AMD 64 bit architecture but I am little hesistant to install 64 bit without some knowledge.
[23:53] <ed_debian> zanff, Did you see that? go to System -> Admin -> Update Manager
[23:53] <zortec> I made the root 10GB... please help someone.
[23:53] <erUSUL> zanff: you will have to do 2 upgrades 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04
[23:53] <jrib> infomomo: why do you want to edit the file rather than just setting it in sources.list?
[23:53] <aliciapg> fccf: the what?
[23:53] <zanff> uhm
[23:53] <ed_debian> zortec, What are you trying to do?
[23:53] <ed_debian> zanff, Are you running gnome or KDE?
[23:54] <infomomo> jrib: did you see my pic ? http://i41.tinypic.com/s3pwtj.png i want to be able to choose the mirror from there
[23:54] <infomomo> jrib: but i wnat to add it to the list first
[23:54] <zortec> Hi ed_debian, I was trying to install WoW but in order to copy all the files I need 10GB free.  I only have 6GB left though in /home
[23:54] <zanff> I'm on gnome
[23:54] <ubuntu> guys would you recommend 64 bit or 32 bit? can someone tell me disadvantages of 64 bit over 32? I have AMD 64 bit architecture but I am little hesistant to install 64 bit without some knowledge.
[23:54] <jrib> infomomo: i understand what you want to do, just not why
[23:54] <zortec> I think I made the /home dir too small for my purposes
[23:54] <Mion> ubuntu: go for 64bit
[23:54] <jrib> ubuntu: how much ram do you have?
[23:54] <fccf> aliciapg: The ubuntu repositories ... deb install files ... loading sh files willy nilly of the net can be very unwise ... check out sauerbraten if you want to have some fun
[23:54] <ed_debian> zanff, Did you open System -> Admin -> update manager?
[23:54] <aliciapg> fccf: oh
[23:55] <boss_mc> zortec: you can resize partitions (with limitations) in gparted
[23:55] <ed_debian> zortec, What does your partitions look like?  What are your "purposes"
[23:55] <Mion> ubuntu: the possible advantages of 64bit outadvantages the possible downsides
[23:55] <infomomo> jrib: do you know which file ?
[23:55] <ubuntu> jrib: i have 4gb, 3 core processor
[23:55] <zanff> yes
[23:55] <jrib> ubuntu: 64bit then
[23:55] <jrib> infomomo: no
[23:55] <ubuntu> jrib, mion thank you
[23:55] <zanff> got it
[23:55] <ed_debian> zanff, At the top do you see "Distrobution Upgrade?"
[23:55] <aliciapg> fccf: well this is for a commercial version of wine basically
[23:55] <zanff> is written in another language
[23:55] <ed_debian> zanff, Please begin your posts with my name it's easier for me to catch them that way
[23:55] <UntouchableMX> hi
[23:56] <zortec> ed_debian: I wanted to do a bit of gaming in WoW... so I created a /home partition (20GB), swap (3GB) and root (10GB)
[23:56] <zanff> anyway 	i think that I got it
[23:56] <sjokkis> guys. is it possible to automatically connect to a network share when i'm on a certain wlan?
[23:56] <ed_debian> zanff, ...Do you speak that other language?
[23:56] <zanff> ed_debian: ok
[23:56] <UntouchableMX> my wifi card only gives me internet like for 30 seconds
[23:56] <Link23> ed_debian: Hey, the instant problem's fixed.
[23:56] <ed_debian> Link23, Sorry?
[23:56] <zanff> yes
[23:56] <zanff> thanks all
[23:56] <ed_debian> znaff ok glad I could help
[23:56] <fccf> aliciapg: if it is a commercial version of wine it should be built from the ground up for your particualar OS ... I cannot support commercial software
[23:56] <zanff> I think that I have got it :)
[23:56] <zortec> ed_debian: My gnome directory takes up 10GB so it doesn't leave me a lot of room
[23:56] <Link23> ed_debian: remember, the instant file transfer?
[23:57] <ed_debian> zortec, That's sort of a large root you don't have a whole lot of room to mess huh?  I suggest a smaller swap as well but that's not necessary
[23:57] <jrib> aliciapg: you purchased support for crossover when you bought crossover, so you should contact the transgaming
[23:57] <ed_debian> Link23, OOOO!! You're under a different name now I didn't recognize you.  What was going on??
[23:57] <zortec> ed_debian: For gaming the files are going in /home and that is 20GB
[23:57] <zortec> ed_debian: But 10GB is needed just for WoW
[23:58] <fccf> zortec: wow ... WoW is HUGE!!!
[23:58] <UntouchableMX> my wifi card only gives me internet like for 30 seconds
[23:58] <ed_debian> zortec, That is good.  So you want to re-arrange your partitions? (Make root and swap smaller and give the extra space to /home?)
[23:58] <boss_mc> zortec: do you have more space on the disc?
[23:58] <aliciapg> jrib: it's expired
[23:58] <quinn> does anyone know how to remotely control a computer?
[23:58] <ed_debian> quinn, ssh
[23:58] <boss_mc> !ssh | quinn
[23:58] <korjata> ed_debian: I thought I had the name thing right... Apparently I did it wrong.   Anyways I couldn't figure it out I just restarted.  I just have problems mounting and unmounting it.  Luckily it mounts on boot.
[23:58] <rods> Hi! Quick question. How do I add fat32 partition option to GParted?
[23:58] <fccf> quinn: I do every day
[23:58] <ed_debian> !ssh | quinn
[23:58] <sjokkis> ssh, rdesktop, vnc
[23:59] <fccf> !vnc | quinn
[23:59] <Mion> quinn: nx, ssh, vnc
[23:59] <UntouchableMX> my wifi card only gives me internet like for 30 seconds
[23:59] <sjokkis> UntouchableMX: 30 seconds should be enough for anyone
[23:59] <UntouchableMX> I cant even check email with 30 seconds
[23:59] <linux> What the XF86Audio global hotkeys?