[03:13] <lifeless> how do I remove a CVE reference from  a bug ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr-loom/+bug/201613
[03:27] <wgrant> lifeless: You click on the remove button next to the CVE link. Which isn't there.
[03:27] <wgrant> So you click the "Remove CVE link" link in the main context actions portlet thingamajig.
[03:28] <lifeless> oh fail
[03:28] <lifeless> the form neither lists the CVE's
[03:28] <lifeless> nor prefils
[03:28]  * lifeless enbugginates
[03:28] <wgrant> Yes.
[03:29] <wgrant> There should rather be a delete link next to each CVE in the list, as there is for branch links.
[03:29] <lifeless> wow
[03:29] <lifeless> bug 243129
[03:29] <wgrant> Ah, yes, that one.
[03:29] <lifeless> and bug 137328
[03:32]  * lifeless evilinates
[03:33] <wgrant> Uhoh?
[03:33] <bignose> Ruh-roh.
[03:34] <wgrant> lifeless: You evil person.
[03:34] <lifeless> wgrant: I added a CVE reference to the bug about removing CVE references.
[03:34] <wgrant> Yes, I just saw that.
[03:34] <lifeless> :)
[03:34] <wgrant> Heh.
[03:34] <lifeless> it seemed, appropriate.
[03:35] <wgrant> Did you add it manually, or just with the mention in that comment?
[03:35] <lifeless> just the comment
[03:35] <lifeless> its how the reference got onto the bug I wanted to remove it from - it was the name of  athread in a loom
[03:36] <wgrant> Ah.
[10:45] <maxb> losa: Hi, /home/importd/.bazaar/subversion.conf @ pear has been corrupted by a race condition again, at line 168
[10:46] <mthaddon> igh
[10:46] <mthaddon> er, ugh, I mean
[10:47] <mthaddon> maxb: so can I just delete that line, or do I need to delete the stanza it seems to possibly be part of (i.e. the previous two lines)?
[10:48] <maxb> I think you'd probably be best deleting the affected stanza - could you pastebin?
[10:49] <mthaddon> maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/443240/
[10:49] <maxb> I'd delete the whole stanza - there's no useful info in it
[10:49] <mthaddon> ok, done
[10:50] <maxb> thanks
[12:14] <serg> upgrade of mariadb launchpad branch is "in progress" for 6 days now. should we continue waiting ?
[12:14] <serg> or, for a change, it's stuck and not just slow as expected
[12:49] <maxb> serg: That sounds stuck to me. You should get someone (matsubara?) to look at it specifically. But you might have to wait for the rollout to be done
[12:49] <serg> thanks
[12:50] <serg> a, right
[13:04] <maxb> urgh
[13:04] <maxb> No readonly access to mailing list archives
[13:05] <maxb> oh, and now it works
[13:05] <bilalakhtar> Hi there, people. Is it possible to triage a bug report at this time? I am ready to use any method. I can use the lpapi. Does that work?
[13:06] <maxb> no
[13:06] <maxb> read-only means read-only
[13:06] <bilalakhtar> maxb: It says "Launchpad's Web Interface will be read-only"
[13:07] <maxb> Ah. Well, it's all read-only, assuming it works at all
[13:20] <bilalakhtar> hey, is the maintainance over?
[13:21] <bilalakhtar> The message has gone
[13:21] <bilalakhtar> But the snippet at the bottom of pages still says "Launchpad 10.04 (r9420)"
[13:26] <bilalakhtar> I can make changes in bugs now, but is maintainance over? since it is still showing up to be lp 10.04
[13:26] <wgrant> It's the right revno.
[13:26] <wgrant> Someone just forgot to update the version to 10.05.
[13:26] <bilalakhtar> wgrant: So should we celerate lp 10.05?
[13:26] <bilalakhtar> wgrant: oh
[13:27]  * bilalakhtar opens a bottle of (non-alcoholic) beer to celebrate the launch of lp 10.05
[13:28] <bilalakhtar> Yes, I can definitely see some changes in the way distro packages are displayed in lp
[13:52] <maxb> https://launchpad.net/irssi is owned by a deactivated account. May I have it, to tweak its series->branch assignments and milestones?
[14:14] <serg> Ursinha: upgrade of mariadb launchpad branch is "in progress" for 6 days now. should we continue waiting ? or, for a change, it's really stuck and not just slow as expected
[14:14] <serg> heh
[14:14] <claunia> hi
[14:23] <serg> Ursinha: upgrade of mariadb launchpad branch is "in progress" for 6 days now. should we continue waiting ? or, for a change, it's really stuck and not just slow as expected
[14:30] <bilalakhtar> exit
[14:39] <serg> Ursinha ?
[14:39] <Ursinha> hi
[14:39] <Ursinha> !
[14:39] <serg> hi
[14:39] <serg> Ursinha: upgrade of our mariadb launchpad branch is "in progress" for 6 days now. should we continue waiting ? or, for a change, it's really stuck and not just slow as expected
[14:39] <Ursinha> serg, just a moment and I'll take a look for you
[14:39] <serg> thanks
[14:39] <serg> https://code.launchpad.net/~maria-captains/maria/5.1-converting
[14:40] <serg> this one
[14:53] <Ursinha> serg, you said that that upgrade message is there for five days?
[14:53] <Ursinha> six
[14:54] <serg> yes
[14:54] <Ursinha> serg, in any case, thanks for letting us know, I'll talk to a code person as soon as one arrives here
[14:54] <serg> np. what should we do now ? just wait for the message to disappear ?
[14:54] <Ursinha> serg, I suggest you filing a question in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/
[14:54] <Ursinha> so we can follow up there
[14:55] <serg> okay, I will. thanks
[14:55] <Ursinha> thanks serg!
[14:55] <Ursinha> and sorry for any inconveniences
[14:59] <lfaraone> wgrant: would it be useful if we were to add a URL handler for "lp:BUGNUMBER/apport-collect" or something similiar that caused apport to perform apport-collect with that bug as target? (assuming we display a dialog like we do with "apt:")
[15:00] <fta2> Q: how can i use the "devel" API using launchpadlib? (instead of 1.0)
[15:02] <fta2> (using login_anonymously())
[15:17] <dnivra> hello. I get the error "Permission denied(public key)" when I try to upload my launchpad branch. I have uploaded the key to launchpad. what is the problem?
[15:19] <Ursinha> dnivra, does it ask you for a passphrase first or it just fails directly?
[15:20] <dnivra> Ursinha, no it does not ask for a passphrase, i do bzr push and then the error is shown almost immediately
[15:21] <Ursinha> dnivra, right..
[15:21] <dnivra> Ursinha, what do you think the problem could be?
[15:22] <Ursinha> dnivra, I'm thinking :)
[15:22] <thekorn> fta, user version="devel" as argument
[15:22] <thekorn> -r
[15:23] <thekorn> like  lp = Launchpad.login_anonymously("boo", EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT, version="devel")
[15:24] <dnivra> Ursinha, sorry :).
[15:24] <Ursinha> dnivra, ah, no no, just saying :)
[15:24] <dnivra> Ursinha, do you think the key could be wrong? I did paste the same thing three times over-delete and add, delete and add.
[15:25] <Ursinha> dnivra, hm, might be...
[15:25] <dnivra> Ursinha, any CLI tools to copy/send the key accurately.
[15:27] <Ursinha> dnivra, well, I've set up mine two years ago, I guess... back in that time I copied and pasted as well
[15:27] <dnivra> Ursinha, :). alright going to give another try with a dsa key now.
[15:28] <dnivra> nope same :(.
[15:31] <Ursinha> I was getting there :/
[15:41] <Ursinha> now I know his problem
[16:04] <dnivra> Ursinha, thank you for your mail but it still didn't work :(. i did to lp-login and no use.
[16:14] <corecode> hey
[16:14] <corecode> is there a way to host files/tarballs on launchpad?
[16:18] <Ursinha> dnivra, do you have permission to write branches in the project you're trying to?
[16:18] <dnivra> Ursinha, got it. thanks for your help.
[16:18] <dnivra> Ursinha, i used my other launchpad id to do it: same procedure but it worked.
[16:19] <Ursinha> dnivra, to which project are you trying to upload stuff?
[16:20] <dnivra> Ursinha, ubuntu-bots
[16:21] <Ursinha> dnivra, I see you successfully uploaded a branch 10 minutes ago
[16:21] <Ursinha> using the lp id I've sent the email to
[16:22] <dnivra> Ursinha, 10 minutes ago? Wow time does fly. Yes using the same id you e-mailed me. I was using my other lp id registered to another e-mail. wonder why it didn't work.
[16:23] <Ursinha> dnivra, do you mind telling me the other id?
[16:23] <dnivra> Ursinha, PM you?
[16:23] <Ursinha> dnivra, sure :)
[16:42] <Andphe> Hi guys, I uploaded a package to my ppa this morning but don't got any mail so far, how long does it take ?
[16:43] <maxb> 5 minutes
[16:43] <noodles775> Andphe: have you checked through https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227  and the links from there?
[16:47] <Andphe> noodles775: thanks, nope I checked the help page https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors, but not the answers one
[16:47] <Andphe> I'll check thanks again
[16:47] <Andphe> aha, hmm
[16:48] <Andphe> my key expired, so I changed the date
[16:48] <Andphe> so I bet launchpad have the old one
[16:48] <Andphe> that is a clue
[16:48] <Andphe> thanks noodles775
[16:48] <Ian_Corne> any idea when ppa's will support changelogs?
[16:53] <noodles775> Ian_Corne: you mean more than the last entry in the changelog shown on the package details page (when expanding a source package)?
[16:53] <fta> thekorn, thanks. should i expect big changes?
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> I mean for it to show in update-manager
[17:10] <fta> thekorn; well, it doesn't work (the "devel" api): 504 Gateway Time-out
[17:23] <thekorn> fta, works for me here
[17:28] <fta> thekorn, yep, it did after the 5th try. looks fine now
[18:49] <fta> the lp api is doing way too many http requests
[18:57] <geser> in what way? too many requests to get one object or re-requesting the same object too often?
[19:06] <fta> geser, well, i'm trying to understand why my dashboards take so long to be created (between 5 and 10 minutes), i was assuming a bottleneck somewhere (a particular request or type of requests taking too long)..
[19:07] <fta> geser, but it seems the delay is just the sum of many smaller delays, each requests being a few hundreds of ms
[19:08] <fta> but if i trace the http requests, i see far than what i expected
[19:08] <fta> (far more reqs)
[19:10] <mpt> "bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('file:///home/mpt/hacking/software-center/.bzr/repository/') is not compatible with RemoteRepository(bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/software-center/trunk/.bzr/) different rich-root support"
[19:10] <mpt> Anyone know what I should do to fix this?
[19:11] <mpt> Just "bzr upgrade"?
[19:12] <cody-somerville> mpt, I haven't had much luck when it came to differences in repository formats but if bzr upgrade is the answer I would imagine you'd need to upgrade your entire repository.
[19:12] <cody-somerville> mpt, If you don't get an answer here, there might be folks in #bzr who can help.
[19:14] <mpt> ok, "bzr upgrade" worked
[19:16] <cody-somerville> woot :)
[19:20] <geser> fta: is the code for it (your dashboard) somewhere public?
[19:21] <fta> geser, will soon be. i need to clean it up a bit (it's my 1st try with both the API, ... and with python)
[19:23] <fta> geser, (when i said dashboard, i meant this: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ )
[19:24] <fta> hm, seems all my durations are broken. oh my.
[19:24] <fta> most probably the switch from 1.0 to devel
[20:28] <Danili> hi everybody i have a problem there is specified here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1498469 anyways i might have found a solution to the problem and that's change my network diver to the madwifi drivers and try'ed that but then i got a new problem and that's i only had wired connection in my network manager :s so i switched back to the ath5k driver again... my question now is: do anyone have any idea why the switch to
[20:28] <Danili>  the madwifi drivers failed?? i followed this guide: http://petejcullen.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/fixing-the-madwifi-driver-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-netbook-remix/
[20:48] <Ursinha> Danili, hi, you may find more help about that in #ubuntu channel, this is the Launchpad channel :)
[21:08] <Danili> Ursinha, i'v tryed in there 3days and no one awanser so now i try almost all channels
[21:09] <Andphe> I'm done, had to create new keys and re-upload the package
[21:09] <Andphe> cya
[21:10] <Ursinha> Danili, and you couldn't find any clues using google? I mean, for almost all problems I had with ubuntu I could find someone having the same situation in some forum or blog
[21:12] <Danili> tryed tryed and tryed had this problem for 1 month now and looked everywhere and there is just no one who know anything about it and it's just driving me crazy
[21:19] <Ursinha> Danili, you did exactly all the steps to blacklist ath5k modules and use madwifi?
[21:19] <Danili> yes
[21:20] <Ursinha> Danili, maybe we should go in pvt, this is way offtopic here :)
[21:31] <Xk2c> I wanted to unsubscribe from ab bug in launchpad and came accross an other bug actually in launchpad itself.
[21:31] <Xk2c> it told me that i cannot be unsubscribed because:
[21:31] <Xk2c> No REFERER Header Launchpad requires a REFERER header to perform this action.
[21:31] <Xk2c> There is no REFERER header present......
[21:32] <Xk2c> Since when is it required to give away refers to use launchpad??
[21:32] <Xk2c> AFAIK launchpad has been working 6years without that
[21:32] <micahg> Xk2c: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/1024
[21:34] <Xk2c> how do i unsubscribe from bugs now?
[21:35] <Xk2c> how do delete my launchpad acoount all associated files with it?
[21:37] <Xk2c> come on guys
[21:37] <Xk2c> what is it
[21:37] <Xk2c> facebook or something?
[21:43] <Ursinha> erm
[21:46] <lifeless> thats quite a complement
[21:46] <micahg> lifeless: I don't think it was meant as such
[21:46] <lifeless> comparing us to the most successful social networking site so far
[21:47] <lifeless> micahg: I know:P
[21:57] <zul> hi how do i use bug_nominations in launchpadlib is there like an example?
[22:06] <lifeless> probably not
[22:06] <lifeless> maybe in groundcontrol or bughugger
[22:58] <mkarnicki> can launchpad build Android .apk package for me?
[22:59] <mkarnicki> i'm hosting https://launchpad.net/androidu1 and was wondering, if it can build things different than .debs
[23:01] <mkarnicki> https://launchpad.net/opensatnav - looks like it can? :)
[23:01] <thumper> mkarnicki: I don't think so
[23:02] <mkarnicki> thumper: how can I add downloads to my project on lp.. ?
[23:02] <mkarnicki> i'm new to lp
[23:03] <thumper> mkarnicki: you need to have a release, which you can then add downloads for
[23:03] <mkarnicki> ah! thank you thumper :)
[23:03] <thumper> mkarnicki: I'm sure there is some help on that in the help.launchpad.net wiki
[23:03] <mkarnicki> yes! thanks :)
[23:03] <mkarnicki> I'll read on. thank you
[23:03] <thumper> np
[23:07] <wgrant> mkarnicki: Yeah, Launchpad can only build .debs, but you can add arbitrary other files that you've built yourself.
[23:07] <mkarnicki> wgrant: yes, I'll do that :) thank you


[00:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T162: remove fcitx-ui-qimpanel] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T162
 has anyone expirience strange behaivour of hover over libreoffice button?
 Now that you pointed it out I do.
 I usually open my docs from the file manager.
 but i see what you are talking about.
 so you see that the "description" of the buttons has strange behaivour?
 description when hover
 I have one installation that doesn't show them at all, and the buttons blink ... in another it show the "description" but blinking
 I think I see what you mean. In the launcher if I hover over a document I notice it.
 I mean in the libreoffice application. For example, over "save as"
 Oh yeah, the buttons too. I see it.
 I think it is a LO issue, I notice it on another distro too.
 it doesn't happen in lubuntu 18.04
 I don't have LO on my 18.04 machine, I will install it there too.
 @HMollerCl You are correct. I don't notice it in 18.04 Lubuntu. I do notice it in Fedora 29 LXQt. Kubuntu might be something to try. I have an install at work and can check it tomorrow.
 I think @TheWendyPower also has a Kubuntu, but she might be busy with tomorrows photoshoots. Tell me how it works!
 I will let you know.
[02:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rWELCOME78352c3f2a09: commit Update CMakeLists.txt to include Hello World example] SBanya (Samuel Banya) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rWELCOME78352c3f2a09
 Hi! ... I found this group on lubuntu.me/links/ ... But I'm a bit confused. ... I'm not sure lubuntu.me is the same url I've been using before. Now I can see lubuntu.net is still right there, but they're using different sociall media accounts. ... lubuntudesktop and Lubuntu.Official.Page on facebook; lubuntudesktop on twitter (s
 It's a very, very long story.
 @vandresguzman [Hi! ... I found this group on lubuntu.me/links/ ... But I'm a bit confused. ... I'm not sur …], Sorry guys! ... I can see this is not for support.
 Lubuntu.net is unofficial and ran in a hostile way.
 We actually do the work...
 So the Lubuntu.me accounts are official.
 If you need confirmation I can send you a GPG-encrypted email with the same email I use to sign uploads. :P
 *same key
 It is not necessary, I'll keep it going on with .me accounts.
 Thanks for your time.
 Thank you :)
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[05:47] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i asked before and i'll ask again: is bug 1801210 really a bug? the way my brain works, i prefer ascending rather than decending, so i'd agree with the reported, but i don't know…
 Fwd from wxl: <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you consider this a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1801210
 Fwd from tsimonq2: I don't know, @TheWendyPower, is it?
 Fwd from TheWendyPower: Yes, yes it does....
 Read, wxl ;)
 @tsimonq2 Sorry I missed the stand up yesterday. It was an absolutely crazy day and today will be far crazier. I'll try to check in, but I'll be slammed through the weekend.
 @TheWendyPower [@tsimonq2 Sorry I missed the stand up yesterday. It was an absolutely crazy day …], No worries 👍
 anyone else seeing strange behaivour (blinking) in libreoffice when leaving mouse over buttons?
[13:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEe7b53090fc96: DSC file for 3.0.4-3] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEe7b53090fc96
 @HMollerCl [anyone else seeing strange behaivour (blinking) in libreoffice when leaving mous …], I just checked my Kubuntu install and it doesn't have the issue. I have only seen the problem on LXQt so far.
 thanks for the info. I will talk with @wxl on how to handle it.
[13:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T163: LibreOffice blinking buttons and description on hover] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163
[13:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T163: LibreOffice blinking buttons and description on hover] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163#3253
 @wxl ^
[18:02] <wxl> libreoffice run on the commandline seems to complain very angrily about java not being installed, and yet libreoffice-java-common is a suggest, not a depend. anyone grok that?
[18:05] <wxl> so this libreoffice thing... could it be something with how we have theming set up?
[18:05] <wxl> or maybe some window manager thing?
[18:05] <wxl> has anyone tried to talk to the libreoffice folks?
[18:06] <wxl> in a vm i never see the blinking but i do see that the tooltips only happen some of the time
[18:08] <wxl> @HMollerCl ^
[18:09] <wxl> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/9mqmxk/question_about_libreoffice_tooltips_not_showing/
 I will look at it
 I haven't talk with the LibreOffice guy
 Hey this relates to the testing phase: in a vm, can I install the entirety of a Lubuntu image and save my settings each time right? Or is it better to just load it as a live image?
 I ask because I don't mind switching to the dailies but I'm wondering if I can carry all of my saved data from image to image
 Is this more of a thing for git?
 In a Windows 10 vm
[18:37] <wxl> what data do you want to save?
 Well I guess my scripts folder containing all my process and guides for Linux stuff
 I'm guessing if it's on my github just do a git pull each time right?
[19:01] <wxl> seems much more sensible
 Also images and other private documents
 Like how could you do a git for that
[19:01] <wxl> git can store binaries
 Thats one of the reasons I still keep windows is for games and private docs that can't be lost
 Otherwise I'd love everything to follow me regardless
 So binaries contain all of my data including files or just programs?
[19:02] <wxl> anything you want
[19:02] <wxl> of course at some point it gets silly using git for 2TB of data
[19:03] <wxl> at that point, you might want to just put it on an external usb
 True I'm more of thinking of like private files and games.
 Interesting
 But you see why I ask though right?
[19:05] <wxl> i wouldn't bother with any of that for testing
 It's a weird non windows question since linux users hop all the time
 Yeah
[19:05] <wxl> SOME linux users hop distros
 I plan on getting a separate hard drive just for vms
[19:05] <wxl> i think it's a rather ridiculous practice
 Can the installation be remembered with vms though ?
 Like if I install it inside the vm?
 I only ask cause I only ran live images and never saved stuff
[19:06] <wxl> the virtual machine is... a.. virtual.. machine
 Also what do you feel about adding a selenium component to automate our images wxl?
 True
[19:06] <wxl> so if you install, you have an installation ona  virtual machine
 Gotcha so it does then
[19:06] <wxl> if you don't install, you do not have an installation on a virtual machine
[19:07] <wxl> "virtual machine" can actually be taken literally
 Gotcha so for all intensive purposes it persists
 As if you're booting a real machine it remembers your setting
[19:08] <wxl> i'm not sure how selenium is relevant. it is geared towards for web development
 Settings
 But think of all the bugs that we could find though
 I only ask cause the devs at work do it
 I know that's basically a web app product
 But maybe we could apply the same ideas
[19:08] <wxl> then it's outside of our domain
 But what if I find a way we could use selenium for our project ?
[19:09] <wxl> as far as i know the only value it has is that it allows you to see how one app would work across many platforms (browsers)
[19:09] <wxl> in our case, we really only have two platforms (architectures)
[19:10] <wxl> and to be completely honest, one of them is doomed to disappear sooner than later
[19:10] <wxl> so i don't see the value at all
 Afaik selenium is like a higher level webscraping
[19:12] <wxl> if you want automation, there is automatic testing http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html
 Thats great
 Maybe we can host this on tester machines and incorporate it to work on a daily image
 And have a human look at any specific issues it finds
[20:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T158: Define a Mission for Lubuntu] profetik777 (JL) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T158#3255
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[00:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> apb1963: no idea if someone can do that to a ppa. there are '2' browsers. the google version of firefox and chrome. not really sure of the exact difference
[00:17] <Whiskey`Wonka> MangaKaDenza: google-earth-stable : Depends: ia32-libs but it is not installable
[00:24] <valorie> Whiskey`Wonka: I use chromium
[00:24] <valorie> "google version of firefox"?
[00:25] <valorie> mozilla makes firefox, google makes chrome and chromium
[00:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> right, im thinking some base that was on ff, could be confused slightly, ive been up for far far tolong
[00:28] <valorie> well, there are iceweasel, etc.
[00:29] <valorie> which change the branding so they can patch
[00:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> yea. i need to sleep. been up for 30 some hours dealing with wind damage to a network
[00:52] <jerseydave> new NSA bugg
[04:40] <tertu> so, this is just a question
[04:41] <tertu> would anybody know what would make upstart eat 96% of my CPU and log until it ate all my disk space
[04:41] <tertu> (i had a 46GB startkde.log file)
[04:46] <valorie> tertu, please file a bug!
[04:46] <valorie> that sounds quite extreme
[04:47] <valorie> in the cli, run ubuntu-bug upstart
[04:47] <tertu> i don't have that file anymore, sadly
[04:47] <tertu> i had to get rid of it to make my computer become responsive
[04:48] <valorie> I assume you have the beginning of another one though?
[04:48] <tertu> yeah, looks like it
[04:48] <tertu> but i don't know how relevant that is.
[04:49] <valorie> if it is relevant, the devels will probably contact you
[04:49] <valorie> at the very least, the information will be there for them to consult
[04:49] <valorie> it's always worthwhile to submit a bug report
[04:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Wow, a 46GB log file....
[04:51] <tertu> this machine is really buggy
[04:51] <tertu> jockey throws python exceptions when i try to do anything with it
[04:51] <tertu> muon package search doesn't work, nor does synaptic quick search
[04:52] <tertu> the Canonical APT repos were disabled by default
[04:52] <tertu> muon update manager doesn't really seem to work
[04:53] <tertu> and i think apport may have locked up, depends on how long i have to wait for it to show anything
[04:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> wow
[04:54] <tertu> ALSO if i put it to sleep the display doesn't turn back on when i wake it up
[04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe you should consider testing the ram and hdd
[04:54] <tertu> both are good
[04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you install from a dvd?
[04:54] <tertu> well, i'm unsure about the ram
[04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> check the ram
[04:54] <tertu> i did install from a dvd, it could very well have been damaged
[04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> actually, it can be as simple as a bad burn, to complicated like a bad dvd drive.
[04:55] <valorie> did you verify the ISO?
[04:55] <tertu> you'd think these sorts of problems would have fixed themselves via updates
[04:55] <tertu> nope.
[04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> the easiest test would be running memtest and putting the iso on a usb stick
[04:55] <valorie> depends on where the corruption was
[04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> true.
[04:56] <valorie> that's what the checksum is there for
[04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> could have even been a bad download, if you didn't verify the iso.
[04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Although, I find that iso's downloaded via torrent have a low likelihood of failure.
[04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, I generally don't bother verifying with that.
[04:57] <tertu> bittorrent has its own verification system
[04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> yup
[04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> better than getting it from the site.
[04:57] <valorie> yes, every few weeks I ask ktorrent to check all the ISOs I seed
[04:58] <tertu> i just feel like more would be broken if the ISO was actually corrupt, like a package would be damaged internally or something
[04:58] <tertu> i'm pretty sure the sleep bug is something with my particular laptop's video hardware
[04:59] <valorie> it's worthwhile to file a bug
[04:59] <valorie> then file another bug
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> could be... but one demon at a time.
[04:59] <valorie> and figure out each problem in turn
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> ^
[04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> start with the big mess, like the ram and installing with a usb stick, after verifying the iso
[05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then dwindle it down.
[05:00] <tertu> i mean i'm not sure if this would be a good indication but under Windows 7 i don't really have anywhere near this amount of problems
[05:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, that can be hit or miss.
[05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Though it would say that the hardware is working fine, it would also say that it should, since it's designed to run in windows.
[05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not the ultimate diagnostic tool.
[05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just part of the diagnostic tool kit
[05:03] <tertu> that would make sense for sleep (which does work) but something like ram? that doesn't make as much sense
[05:03] <tertu> and besides i have successfully run kubuntu before with fewer problems
[05:04] <tertu> well ram ages over time so that doesn't quite make sense.
[05:04] <valorie> also worth checking that the ram is tightly seated
[05:05] <valorie> it can become loose sometimes
[05:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Was all this a problem in the live session?
[05:06] <tertu> nope.
[05:06] <tertu> i didn't try sleeping in the live session but that all went fine
[05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well the live session runs all in ram. If there was going to be ram problems, it would have popped up then.
[05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can test for sleep in the live session.
[05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> At this point, it's really starting to sound like the hdd.
[05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> By now, I would have downloaded a diagnostic iso from the manufacturer.
[05:15] <tertu> grabbing it right now,
[05:55] <mydevilroot> Hi All
[06:19] <mattcen> Hi all. I'm looking for the SVG of the default Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper. Anybody know where it is?
[06:21] <valorie> hmmm, seems like it would be in your sources
[06:21] <valorie> I mean, we use the KDE default wallpaper, as far as i know
[06:27] <mattcen> That's a nice theory, but I've not found it yet.
[06:31] <valorie> mattcen: I'm googling, and I haven't found it either
[06:32] <shadeslayer> valorie: mattcen I don't think it was released
[06:33] <valorie> shadeslayer: so we just derived our image from the unreleased SVG?
[06:33] <shadeslayer> valorie: I /think/ pino just released a png
[06:33]  * shadeslayer is confirming
[06:33] <valorie> k
[06:34] <shadeslayer> yeah http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kde-wallpapers/Elarun/contents/images/
[06:34] <valorie> thanks, shadeslayer
[06:34] <shadeslayer> okay wait, even that's not correct ...
[06:34] <shadeslayer> hmm
[06:34] <shadeslayer> because Autumn doesn't have a svg there too
[06:36] <shadeslayer> mattcen: please ask in #oxygen
[06:37] <mattcen> Hooray for open source being open! Unbelieveable.
[06:38] <valorie> it's open
[06:38] <valorie> just not necessarily easy to find
[06:39] <valorie> if an artist doesn't want to release the SVG, why is that a problem?
[06:39] <mattcen> shadeslayer: Thanks for your help. I'll ask there
[06:40] <shadeslayer> valorie: mattcen I've /heard/ this before that the svg for Elarun was never released
[06:41] <mattcen> Right. Well that's disappointing. Thanks again.
[06:42] <mattcen> I wanted to use the image, but didn't want to commit a 1.4MB PNG to our git repo; was hoping for the SVG which I'd expect to be ~100kb
[06:44] <valorie> mattcen: if you ask the artist, he might give it to ya
[06:44] <valorie> you never know
[06:44] <shadeslayer> ^^
[06:44] <valorie> it might have been oversight that it wasn't released
[06:45] <shadeslayer> also, s/Pino/Nuno/ earlier
[06:45] <valorie> ha
[06:45] <valorie> nuno is awesome
[07:04] <mattcen> I apologize if I came off as snarky before; I just wasted 2 hours of a (very hot and unpleasant) afternoon looking for that wallpaper.
[07:55] <student_> hi
[08:00] <valorie> how can we help you, student_?
[08:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:19] <deafgeek> .msg NickServ verify deafgeek uolgssduuudv
[15:19] <deafgeek> whoops
[18:41] <DonBastel> Hi folks, little question is there an official kubuntu pxe package or an official iso->pxe documentation?
[18:46] <greeny> hi there, when gets KDE 4.12 released in kubuntu 13.10?
[18:53] <soee_> first it has to be ready for trusty :)
[18:55] <greeny> true. first of all i appreciate some new kate features^^
[18:56] <greeny> i hate switching between splitted window without any shortcut
[18:57] <gacyne> if i install wine will that enable windows malware on my computer?
[18:57] <soee_> :)
[18:59] <greeny> gacyne: it will only enable the backdoors of windows software I suggest
[19:00] <gacyne> howdo i "sandbox" wine
[19:06] <gacyne> ok i get it no security related question
[19:10] <greeny> perhaps you should ask in a wine channel
[19:10] <greeny> or google
[19:10] <greeny> :)
[20:12] <soee_> is it possible to configure 2 screens to show only different activities ?
[20:52] <gino_> celentano
[20:57] <kuba> hi
[20:57] <Guest16560> can anybode help me to resize partition?
[21:00] <greeny> guess gparted and knoppix can do that for you
[21:03] <gino_> !lista
[21:04] <gino_> "!lista"
[21:05] <gino_> !lista
[22:19] <djaz> hello
[23:15] <F41L> Hey, I just installed firefox and firefox-kde-support, when opening firefox from launcher, has KDE integration no problem. But if I open a web URL shortcut, it opens the ugly GTK firefox. Any ideas?
[23:34] <valorie> F41L: maybe look at your systemsettings
[23:34] <valorie> possibly the link for 'open URLs in' or similar needs to be changed
[23:35] <valorie> default applications > web browser
[23:36] <valorie> mine is set to "in the following browser"
[23:36] <valorie> which I have as chromium browser
[23:36] <valorie> the other setting is 'in an application based on the contents of the URL'
[23:48] <keithzg> Hmm, lightdm isn't starting automatically (have to launch the service manually) and desktop effects don't work. I have a feeling these two things are related...
[23:57] <keithzg> And oddly, Muon doesn't show virtualbox-4.3, even though it's currently installed through the Oracle-provided repo. Curiouser and curiouser.
[23:58] <keithzg> On the plus side, I have lightdm running by default now, but still no desktop effects.


[04:11] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Putting 16.04.2 on the Fridge after I get Lubuntu announcements done
[04:20] <tsimonq2> Ok, working on Fridge now.
[04:21] <pleia2> tsimonq2: thanks!
[04:22] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Can I also look over UWN and send out to summary writers? ;)
[04:22] <tsimonq2> Argh no wait
[04:22] <tsimonq2> It's only Thursday
[04:22] <tsimonq2> I keep thinking it's Friday
[04:22] <tsimonq2> pleia2: So NVM :P
[04:22] <pleia2> :)
[04:22] <tsimonq2> (although I might as well look over it anyways)
[04:22] <pleia2> does it have anything yet?
[04:23] <tsimonq2> I haven't looked to be honest
[04:23] <pleia2> I haven't added anything
[04:23] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Hah ok, so I'll do that next. :P
[04:23] <pleia2> ty
[04:24] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Then when I get home from school tomorrow (shortened day), THEN can I send out to summary writers? :P
[04:30] <tsimonq2> pleia2: How'd I do? ;) http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2017/02/17/ubuntu-16-04-2-lts-released/
[04:32] <tsimonq2> *wave of tiredness*
[04:32]  * tsimonq2 postpones looking at UWN -> tomorrow afternoon
[04:32] <tsimonq2> Night o/
[20:41]  * tsimonq2 postpones looking at UWN -> after work
[22:17] <pleia2> well, it's still empty anyway ;)
[22:56] <pleia2> tsimonq2: just noticed you missed the "originally posted..." bit of the fridge post, adding now
[23:00] <pleia2> (it's a bit "meh" that we copy it verbatim for the fridge anyway, doing so without attribution is a big no-no)
[23:35] <pleia2> tsimonq2: I've fleshed out the newsletter, please do look it over and send it off to summary writers this evening :)


[16:13] <smoser> rharper, blackboxsw would like some thoguhts on https://code.launchpad.net/~d-info-e/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/340112
[16:49] <brunobronosky> Anybody here have experience with cloud-init + chef? I'm trying to use http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/17.1/topics/examples.html#install-and-run-chef-recipes and it is not respecting my intent to install the chef omnibus and is installing chef/xenial package instead.
[16:58] <blackboxsw> brunobronosky: did you specify  install_type: "omnibus" in the chef: #cloud-config section?
[16:59] <blackboxsw> I thought I had validated this in a review on chef module a few months ago
[17:01] <blackboxsw> if install_type: 'packages' is specified as per that example, cloud-init will pull from distro packages
[17:01]  * brunobronosky does not read comments good! https://github.com/cloud-init/cloud-init/blob/ubuntu/17.1-0ubuntu1/doc/examples/cloud-config-chef.txt#L94
[17:02] <brunobronosky> Yep. That is exactly what it is doing. Sorry.
[17:02]  * blackboxsw thinks that example is confusing/muddled, it tries to comment multiple behaviors at the same time.
[17:03] <blackboxsw> no worries brunobronosky good news is, it's on our radar to update schema definitions and docs for modules like chef this year, so this should be better documented as we get through this module
[17:04] <brunobronosky> I need to go back to http://media.tmz.com/2016/02/06/0206-derek-zoolander-vh1-films-paramount-pictures-01-1200x630.jpg
[17:04] <blackboxsw> I generally also go to the specific module docs too when looking at how to configure it. But, unfortunately chef is not currently that helpful. http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/modules.html#chef
[17:05] <blackboxsw> excellent link brunobronosky . Glad you've got my same appreciation for good/bad movies.
[17:57] <blackboxsw> hrm, ok so a datassource's metdata is only updated by the std datasource.get_data() which gets both user-data and meta-data, either we can decouple those  in all datasources to process metadata alone, or we add a cache_clear option to the datasource if errors are raised during userdata processing. either way looks like this hostname setting early  is going to be a bigish branch
[17:59] <blackboxsw> I'm more inclined to go the UserDataProcess raises errors approach and the datasource base class could handle that exception and avoid caching metadata  userdata on the datasource in that case (because we know we'll be re-running in a later cloud-init stage
[19:39] <brunobronosky> Woot! I have finally got my "cloud-init chef bootstrap" POC done. It's pretty functional, but I need to find a way to use the value of the ECS Name tag in the user-data file which is of type cloud-init.
[19:40] <brunobronosky> But anyway, to do it I used and undocumented feature `exec_arguments` that I found in https://github.com/cloud-init/cloud-init/blob/ubuntu/17.1-0ubuntu1/cloudinit/config/cc_chef.py
[19:41] <brunobronosky> But an error I encountered along the way raised an interesting question. http://termbin.com/k4m4
[19:44] <Gaffel> What version of cloud-init is that?
[19:48] <brunobronosky> I fixed that error by quoting the entries like so http://termbin.com/ymz6 But I think it's a bug that YAML is passed directly to cmd.extend because util.subp is never going to like int, or any other non-strings.
[19:48] <brunobronosky> Gaffel 17.1
[20:00] <blackboxsw> brunobronosky: your example could also be   exec_arguments: '-d -i 1800 -s 20'      and that'd work. I think it's worth a bug against cc_chef, it's taking the proper yaml (including int types and blindly appending it the to subprocess call on the cli, it shouldn't be calling util.subp with a list containing non-string items
[20:01] <blackboxsw> brunobronosky: on the failed node you could call ubuntu-bug cloud-init and it'd prompt you for the information to file a bug
[20:01] <brunobronosky> ha! didn't know that. nice.
[20:01] <blackboxsw> that's:      ubuntu-bug cloud-init  on the commandline of the failed node
[20:02] <blackboxsw> yeah it's a recent addition it collects all cloud-init logs and user-data if you let it so you don't have to
[23:02] <blackboxsw> ok fixed up my hostname setting branch to take into account errors and retry. tested ec2 & vsphere. adding unit tests now
[23:02] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/339720


[08:46] <redhot1> hi
[08:47] <redhot1> I've got some simple question
[08:47] <redhot1> I want to read variable in cloud-init config
[08:48] <redhot1> http://pastebin.com/racmcWwC
[08:48] <redhot1> I want pass the value of 'hostname' and 'public-ipv4' (from meta-data) into shell script
[08:48] <redhot1> is it possible to do?
[08:50] <redhot1> i've seen page http://coreos.com/docs/cluster-management/setup/cloudinit-cloud-config/ where guys use syntax likeaddr: $public_ipv4:4001
[08:51] <redhot1> in my cause it doesn't work, it just pass string "$public_ipv4"
[09:47] <redhot1> can someone help me? :)