[11:54] <ikonia> carpediembaby: change your resolution to a usable size
[11:54] <Cool2BeBlue> :D
[11:54] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: open a terminal and do "apt-get update" and put the output in pastebin.ubuntu.com please.
[11:54] <carpediembaby> ikonia: you mean on the host? or on the guest?
[11:54] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: if you can't do that please do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[11:54] <atreyus> buenos dias a todos
[11:54] <ikonia> carpediembaby: either the host or guest, which ever works best for you
[11:55] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im installing it
[11:55] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: thank you
[11:55] <carpediembaby> ikonia: as i said, it doesn't work with the guest. I was hoping to avoid changing the resolution on the host though.
[11:56] <mat619> Hi there. I'm experiencing very weird networking behavior on this new server: its Realtek 8111/6168/8411 onboard NIC causes a huge lot of frame checksum errors and packet loss (around 25%). if I configure the interface with a static ip instead of via dhcp, I even experience 85% packet loss! Any ideas?
[11:56] <steven> anyone using ubuntu 14.04 with apache 2.2?
[11:56] <mat619> I tried changing to the original driver that Realtek provides, didn't change anything.
[11:57] <phasip> I have a ubuntu 8 machine and a usb stick with a ubuntu 14.04 install. Problem is, the computer doesn't have boot from usb. is there a simple way to update to 14.04 using this usb?
[11:57] <ikonia> steven: just ask your real question
[11:57] <Ool> isn't apache 2.4 by default with 14.04 ?
[11:57] <karooga> Hi anyone familiar with VMEbus?
[11:57] <steven> yeah thats my problem, ok well I have an svn 1.7, I cant upgrade it to 1.8 so I have to use 1.7 on the ubuntu 14.04 server
[11:57] <ikonia> karooga: just ask your real question
[11:57] <six86> Hello. I just wanted to setup a clean ubuntu 12.04.5 server installation. After installation "apt-get update" fails with "Failed to fetch ... hash sum mismatch" I know how to temporarily solve the issue, but where does the problem come from? I tried reinstalling but it still fails.
[11:57] <ikonia> steven: why is that a problem ?
[11:57] <geirha> phasip: no ... how ancient is the computer?
[11:58] <steven> so I managed to install svn1.7 but cannot install apache.24 with webdav cos the current packages require svn 1.8.9
[11:58] <Busserl> carpediembaby: So your vm is displayed too small? I'd say that's a problem with the vm-host software, it should recognize a high resolution display and resize its display accordingly.
[11:58] <ikonia> mat619: is this a home network or a professional network
[11:58] <karooga> ikonia: Can Xen expose VMEBus to guest OS?
[11:58] <mat619> ikonia: profesisonal
[11:58] <geirha> phasip: I mean it has to be quite ancient to not be able to boot usb
[11:58] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, how can i use pastebin init?
[11:58] <ikonia> karooga: should be able to
[11:58] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: apt-get update | pastebinit
[11:58] <Busserl> carpediembaby: Maybe you could try some remote protocol, instead of the "native" vm display.
[11:58] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: then give us the url
[11:58] <steven> so the problem is that I can either use svn1.7 or apache24, but since they're not compatible this is not the way to go, hence I have to downgrade apache
[11:58] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, cool!
[11:58] <steven> ikonia: ^ makes sense?
[11:59] <ikonia> mat619: check on the switch hops to see if packet loss is more/less at certain parts of the network, or if it's just the last hop
[11:59] <ikonia> steven: why are they not compatible ?
[11:59] <koell> How do I set the dpi/zoom in lubuntu 14.04? There is no setting as in the usual ubuntu :/
[11:59] <mat619> ikonia: it occurs even to the switch itself
[11:59] <ikonia> mat619: which switch....
[11:59] <phasip> geirha: It has a printer port.
[11:59] <karooga> ikonia: I can't find any documentation about it, any ideas about where I can look to confirm this?
[11:59] <carpediembaby> Busserl: no. I get the same resolution on guest as on host. But the problem is that this resolution is too high. On windows 8 (host) there is an option to zoom everything, so everything is readable. I was looking for something like that in ubuntu
[11:59] <mat619> ikonia: the switch its plugged into, so on a 1 hop distance
[12:00] <steven> cos svn in ubuntu > 1404 is not updated to the latest 1.7.17 (the current version used in ubuntu is 1.7.9) but apache24 support was introduced in 1.7.10 ikonia :D
[12:00] <ikonia> karooga maybe worth hitting the xen mailing list, good conversation on that to confirm
[12:00] <ikonia> steven: that doesnt suggest it's not compatible
[12:00] <karooga> ikonia: thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> steven: what part of svn is "not compatible"
[12:00] <steven> apache webdav <-> svn
[12:01] <karooga> ikonia: was trying the irc channel - think ppl are sleeping.  Great will try mailing list.
[12:01] <steven> I just need a convenient way to install apache2.2 on that machine, i'll only use it for webdav anyway and proxy it thru nginx
[12:01] <geirha> phasip: oh dear :)  well it's possible to get it installed, but it'll be cumbersome. Might be easier to get a DVD burned and boot that.
[12:01] <steven> I dont feel like compiling everything manually tho hence I was asking
[12:01] <ikonia> steven: the best option would be to log a bug as a crticial compatibility bug
[12:01] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im wating the result
[12:01] <ikonia> steven: and try get the correct webdav/svn package bumped up tot he supported version
[12:01] <ikonia> karooga: irc channel is very dead.
[12:02] <Busserl> carpediembaby: That's what I meant, the desktop and the vm software should "zoom", yes. I am not sure if such a DPI setting exists, it is unfortunately not considered often, even Google Chrome on Windows still doesn't do it right.
[12:02] <boriseto> Hello, is it possible to reformat/reinstall a system and keep all the ssh keys and ftp configurations that are made? Can I even keep the private key that I have to connect to other servers?
[12:02] <steven> no no, everything within the repos in 1404 are compatible, but I had to install an older version of svn which is not compatible with the apache stuff in 1404
[12:02] <steven> so technically its cos I need svn 1.7 rather than 1.8
[12:02] <ikonia> steven where did you get the older version ?
[12:03] <steven> I added extra repo from saucy
[12:03] <carpediembaby> Busserl: Google Chrome on windows works like a charm!
[12:03] <Busserl> mat619: So have you tried a different cable?
[12:03] <ikonia> steven: you can't mix repos
[12:03] <steven> installed and locked the installation so it doesnt upgrade to 8
[12:03] <ikonia> steven: you've probably screwed your machine with dependencies
[12:03] <six86> Hello. I just wanted to setup a clean ubuntu 12.04.5 server installation. After installation "apt-get update" fails with "Failed to fetch ... hash sum mismatch" I know how to temporarily solve the issue, but where does the problem come from? I tried reinstalling but it still fails.
[12:04] <steven> nah, only installed 3 packages from that repo and locked it, this is not the issue ikonia ;D
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: I didn't say it was the issue
[12:04] <geirha> phasip: If you do want to try a harddrive install, /msg ubottu !install
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: I said you've probably screwed your box - you can't mix repos
[12:04] <phasip> Allright geirha, I'll try that!
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: you're making an unsupportible solution, sorry
[12:04] <Busserl> carpediembaby: Not if you use the zoom option you talked about. Then it gets blurry, unlike Firefox or other updated software. But enough of Windows.
[12:04] <steven> no I did not screw anything and you can mix it, I just used it to only install 3 packages so nothing screwed up
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: sorry - you've made an unsupportable machine
[12:05] <steven> well tell me how to get svn 1.7 working on ubuntu 1404 the clean way
[12:05] <mat619> Busserl: yup. the server also has another NIC (Intel I350) which I tried using the same cable on the same switch port, 0% packet loss
[12:05] <geirha> phasip: In your case the "Install from existing Linux" is likely the most applicable.
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: no idea without any research,
[12:05] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, doesnt show anything
[12:05] <ikonia> either way your machine is out of the bounds of this channels support
[12:05] <steven> I did not make an unsupportable machine? I can simply reverse it by remove the lock and upgrade it to the latest packages in the sources
[12:05] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: it didn't give you a url back, that's interesting
[12:05] <carpediembaby> Busserl: maybe, i am not sure which options make it work. So is there something that can be done on ubuntu?
[12:06] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i don't know why :S
[12:06] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: can you do "telnet pastebin.ubuntu.com 80"
[12:06] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: does that give you a "prompt" back or just hang
[12:06] <Busserl> mat619: I am just guessing, but I have read about packet loss in combination with hardware checksum offload on the NIC. I'd try to disable that in the driver, if possible.
[12:06] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia,  Connected to pastebin.ubuntu.com.
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: ok, so you can connect to it on the web server port, interesting
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: have you checked the ubuntu "proxy" settings
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: make sure they are not enabled ?
[12:07] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i never change the dafult
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: worth double checking
[12:08] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, where are they?
[12:08] <mat619> Busserl: oh! that's a good hint then, sounds like it could be related
[12:08] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: you'll need to check https://help.ubuntu.com for your version I can't remember off the top of my head
[12:08] <mat619> Busserl: but to disable it in the driver I'd have to dig in the make options I guess?
[12:09] <mat619> Busserl: then I can't use r8168-dkms anymore, and every kernel update breaks my NIC driver. not cool :/
[12:10] <Busserl> mat619: I am not sure, I don't think you'd have to recompile the driver. I changed driver options of my soundcard a long time ago with an entry somewhere.
[12:10] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, maybe something is getting busy the port?
[12:10] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: what port ?
[12:11] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, 8080
[12:11] <ikonia> what has 8080 got to do with anything ?
[12:11] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i don't know XD
[12:11] <ikonia> right, so don't say random things then
[12:12] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im not expert of this was just a doubt
[12:12] <Busserl> boriseto: You can reuse ssh-keys, yes. All configuration should be in /etc
[12:12] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im gonna go to eat somthing see you later
[12:14] <boriseto> Busserl, thank you very much.
[12:14] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz check the proxy settings as I suggested
[12:14] <boriseto> Busserl, I guess I would need to backup the .ssh folder in /home too.
[12:16] <Busserl> boriseto: that should do it, yes. Also I usually copy my old config file for ftp for example by hand into the config file, I wouldn't just overwrite it with my backup. But that's me.
[12:16] <Busserl> boriseto: I mean I'd just manually copy my changes I needed into the new install/config.
[12:17] <Busserl> boriseto: And read the man file for changes to default settings, if needed.
[12:17] <six86> nobody else an idea about the "hash sum mismatch" problem?
[12:17] <boriseto> Busserl, oh I see, will update them manually, I just need to backup them first. And do you know where the ftp connections are saved from nautilus?
[12:18] <shay_shay> anyone else using 3.16.0 having deadlocks when copying large files?
[12:19] <k1l_> shay_shay: 3.16 is not a ubuntu final verison kernel
[12:19] <eeee_> six86: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[12:20] <six86> eeee_: Yeah i know... but the problem reappears with every isntallation... it can't be normal?!
[12:21] <eeee_> six86: did you try to delete the /lists/partial as well ?
[12:21] <shay_shay> k1l_: 3.16 is final version for utopic
[12:21] <eeee_> six86: try switching the servers too
[12:21] <k1l_> shay_shay: yes, which is supported in #ubuntu+1 only and is not a final at all.
[12:21] <six86> eeee_: I deleted /varlib/apt/lists/* and that fixes the problem, bu this can't be a standard step for every installation. Is this a bug somewhere?
[12:25] <eeee_> six86: i get it once in a while
[12:26] <eeee_> something to do with the server's file and the hash or checksum of the file i guess being inconsistent, i think, you dont have to delete the whole /lists/* folder you can delete the affected file and sudo apt-get update again
[12:27] <eeee_> six86: if it happens with you alot, maybe you should switch the server you are using? i am using the US main server and the main server sometimes
[12:32] <Busserl> boriseto: No, sorry. Should be in your /home folder.
[12:32] <Busserl> boriseto: all user-related settings should be there. Anything system wide is usually in /etc.
[12:33] <boriseto> Busserl, great. Thank you for all the help and for giving me directions where to look for the other things. :)
[12:35] <hanwizy> ot allow other programes
[12:35] <Busserl> boriseto: no problem, just remember to backup stuff. :)
[12:35] <six861> re
[12:35] <six861> was dropped
[12:38] <remowylliams> Hi all I'm trying to understand the HWE support situation. My understanding was 12.04 lts was going to be supported till 2017
[12:38] <boriseto> Busserl, yeap. Reconfiguring deja dup at the moment.
[12:41] <philio> hello
[12:42] <Ben64> remowylliams: it still is
[12:43] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[12:43] <viktor> i repeatedly am unable to change to permissions of my backup drive (and use it) and i think it might be physically broken. can anybody tell me how i can determine this?
[12:43] <boriseto> Busserl, just in case somebody else has the same questions as me, all the credentials for nautilus are saved in seahorse. Again, thank you and have a nice day.
[12:43] <remowylliams> cfhowlett_: but any kernel bugs are not going to be fixed etc.
[12:44] <Ben64> remowylliams: who said that?
[12:44] <Busserl> boriseto: Thank you. :)
[12:44] <remowylliams> Ben64: that's what the HWE thing is saying http://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[12:44] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, eh?  kernel upgrades are a regular event!
[12:45] <Ben64> remowylliams: if you are using the standard 12.04 kernel, its supported till 2017, and if you're using trusty's kernel with the HWE, its supported till 2017. I'm not seeing a problem here
[12:45] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, as noted on that same page: 12.04.5, or 14.04 will fix.
[12:46] <remowylliams> Ben64: I've been trying the update suggestions sudo do-release-upgrade as an example with no update available
[12:47] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, sudo do-release-upgrade -p                      will see 14.04
[12:47] <Ben64> remowylliams: do-release-upgrade is how you go to 14.04. i thought you wanted to stay on 12.04?
[12:48] <remowylliams> lsb_release -d says Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[12:48] <xinghizkhan> hello, how can metadata be deleted from pdf files?
[12:50] <kostkon> remowylliams: you haven't even installed the latest updates? 12.04.5 is out. your lsb_release should say 12.04.5
[12:50] <X140-3G> Hey all! Little help for install 3G modem (LG X140)...
[12:51] <remowylliams> kostkon: I've tried most everything I know to do an update. I'll go back and check again.
[12:51] <xinghizkhan> ok, I think I found it; sudo apt-get install pdftk  it must be this tool, I guess?
[12:51] <remowylliams> kostkon: this is ubuntu server which it seems doesn't come with update-manager?
[12:52] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, the sysadmin IS the "update manager" on server ...
[12:53] <FabulFabiFabo> Hi body body
[12:54] <FabulFabiFabo> there is peapol use iptables-persistan in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[13:05] <kunal27891> I has installed Mate 1.8 on top of Ubuntu , my nm-applet does not work
[13:05] <PechosRey> Hi
[13:05] <kunal27891> Hi
[13:05] <Penny22>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1mCp5tB
[13:06] <cfhowlett_> !ops | Penny22, spam porn
[13:06] <kunal27891> nm-applet does not work please help
[13:07] <trijntje> !details | kunal27891
[13:07] <kunal27891> I installed Mate 1.8 on top of Ubuntu , after installing my network applet does not show up in mate menu
[13:08] <cfhowlett_> !patience | kunal27891
[13:08] <kunal27891> when i fire nm-applet in terminal it works
[13:09] <trijntje> kunal27891: so it doesn't start automatically
[13:09] <trijntje> !startup
[13:09] <kunal27891> exactly
[13:11] <kunal27891> I startup programs the network manager applet is there but it doesn't fire up on startup
[13:11] <kunal27891> In startup programs the network manager applet is there but it doesn't fire up on startup
[13:12] <mat619> Busserl: A'ight... I toyed around with hardware checksum offloading, but still no good
[13:12] <mykrobinson76> morning, all
[13:12] <mat619> Busserl: in fact, nothing changed at all
[13:13] <mat619> Busserl: still insane amounts of packet loss
[13:13] <mykrobinson76> Need some assistance in 14.04 with disabling an interrupt that is causing high cpu by the process kworder. Details here:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238674
[13:14] <kunal27891> does anyone know where is nm-applet located in linux ??
[13:15] <cfhowlett_> kunal27891, open a terminal: whereis nm-applet
[13:15] <kunal27891> thanks
[13:17] <dhanu> hello everyone :)
[13:21] <PechosRey> hi
[13:22] <PechosRey> i got trouble while updating ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[13:22] <cfhowlett_> !details | PechosRey,
[13:22] <PechosRey> while updating, the muon updater forced me to stop kdm and i got into console
[13:23] <PechosRey> now after a reboot i always get to the console
[13:23] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, muon updater?  the default ubuntu updater is preferred ... or you could use the command line
[13:23] <PechosRey> if i do startx xwindows appears for few seconds then i am back in console
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> !info muon
[13:24] <cfhowlett_> MonkeyDust, ty
[13:24] <mboeru> hello, can anyone tell me where I can find the ubuntu source code repository of the initrd scripts?
[13:24] <cfhowlett_> MonkeyDust, learn something new everyday
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett_  didnt know it either
[13:25] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, if you can see the command line: sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[13:26] <PechosRey> ah thanks that`s what i would ask for
[13:26] <PechosRey> didnt`know a command to go back into the upgrade process
[13:26] <editorx> a "dpkg-reconfigure x11-common" might solve something?
[13:29] <PechosRey> sudo do-release-upgrade -p is not working
[13:29] <PechosRey> no new publishes found
[13:29] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, cat /etc/issue
[13:29] <editorx> PechosRey, a "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" what shows? Why doesn't it start?
[13:31] <PechosRey> cat /etc/issue -> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:31] <PechosRey> but it has sure not finisdhed the upgrade process
[13:31] <PechosRey> it was below 50%
[13:31] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, editorx seems to have insight into your Xorg issues.  work with him.  then complete the upgrade
[13:32] <PechosRey> output of the Xorg.0.log is very very long should i look for something special?
[13:33] <kennen> Hi, i have an broken dd image, and need to check this with fsck, can i tell fsck an offset for the right partition?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:34] <PechosRey> if i do startx it starts kdm and desktop then i got the mouse pointer and a black screen
[13:35] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, curious: are you running kubuntu?
[13:35] <Guest64536> come funziona?
[13:35] <cfhowlett_> why the KDE stuff
[13:35] <PechosRey> yes kubuntu
[13:36] <cfhowlett_> !it|Guest64536,
[13:37] <Guest64536> grazie
[13:38] <frsfett4> hello
[13:38] <frsfett4> How to report a audio bug in xbuntu?
[13:38] <sad> Hi
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  start by describing your issue here
[13:39] <mboeru> how would someone commit a patch in let's say the initrd scripts in ubuntu?
[13:39] <frsfett4> My AC97 audio card not working correctly on Xbuntu <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:39] <cfhowlett_> !bug|frsfett4,
[13:40] <frsfett4> Tried the daily alsa build, not working.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  "not working correctly" is a bit vague
[13:40] <frsfett4> I play music the sound is skipping and distorted.
[13:42] <kennen> Can someone tell me how i can run fsck on the second partition of an dd image? (its ext4)
[13:42] <PechosRey> dpkg --configure -a also not helping pc hangs after this
[13:42] <frsfett4> Any fix for the audio?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  what would you write in the bug description ... write that here, in one line
[13:43] <danielhyuuga> o.o
[13:43] <danielhyuuga> hi
[13:44] <danielhyuuga> what version of ubuntu does everyone use here?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> danielhyuuga  one op the supported versions, type /topic to find out what versions are supported
[13:45] <cfhowlett_> danielhyuuga, doesn't matter.  no polls please.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <necrogami> 5.04 \o/
[13:45] <necrogami> lol
[13:46] <danielhyuuga> nah im not trying to open a poll or what, just asking cause im kinda seeking for how to submit feedback for ubuntu 14.10
[13:46] <PechosRey> is there a chance to resume the upgrade process i started under X with this command kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade in the console mode
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> danielhyuuga  #ubuntu+1 for 14.10
[13:46] <danielhyuuga> thank you
[13:48] <PechosRey> i also tried update-manager -d but this also needs a running X server
[13:50] <PechosRey> so there is no solution to resume an uncompleted upgrade process from console without running X?
[13:50] <PechosRey> only chance is to get X running again?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  what you can try: boot in repair mode (don't remember the exact name), then select repair packages
[13:52] <PechosRey> ok i will try this
[13:53] <PechosRey> is there a way to scroll the console output of a log file?
[13:53] <PechosRey> just checking Xorg.0.log for error but it`s very long
[13:54] <PechosRey> i only see the last few lines of output
[13:54] <marianne_> hi guys.... quick question -- currently have a iMac with 10.8.5 installed (late 2013 hardware)... anyone here ever attempt an upgrade to ubuntu? if so known issues?
[13:54] <cfhowlett_> !mac | marianne_
[13:58] <LMU850T> Little help with 3G modem LUM850T
[13:58] <LMU850T> idVendor 0x1004 idProduct 0x6169
[13:58] <PechosRey> repair packages also not helping
[13:59] <PechosRey> but is it possible to force a reinstall of all the Xorg components
[13:59] <PechosRey> i am sure the upgrade process was at the xorg modules because i got forced to change to console mode
[13:59] <pbx> i've installed davmail (on 14.04) and have no tray icon for it. looks like i need this patch, but if anybody knows another workaround please share!  https://launchpad.net/~timekiller/+archive/ubuntu/unity-systrayfix
[14:01] <marianne_> finally upgraded my 12.04 to 14.4 and it went flawlessly...
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> marianne_, upgrade in place or clean install?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  try a fresh install, that takes about 15 minutes -- backup first
[14:04] <PechosRey> wanted to avoid backing up all the folders
[14:04] <PechosRey> does it help to delete the xorg config?
[14:04] <cfhowlett_> !home | PechosRey, make a dedicated /home
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  by backing up, you can avoid the struggle you're having now
[14:07] <marianne_> bummer...looks like there isn't any documentation for the model i have... guess I'm over to the iMac forums to look for a fix
[14:07] <PechosRey> too sad the upgrade script won`t run without X
[14:08] <PechosRey> is it possible to boot with live cd and resume upgrade from there
[14:09] <dhanu> jj
[14:09] <dhanu> j
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, never seen it done  that way ...
[14:12] <frainfreeze> i have 2 questions, in softwarecenter it only ofers me to "use the source " why?
[14:13] <PechosRey> ok then it seems i have to backup my home folder and do a clean install :(
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  that's the easiest, fastest and cleanest way
[14:14] <PechosRey> hopefully i won`t miss any important folders
[14:14] <frainfreeze> How do I change to download?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  simply backup your complete /home folder
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  because soem source are not active by default, you have to activate them
[14:15] <frainfreeze> No it is for all software, it only ofers source
[14:16] <frainfreeze> mybe I just need to update software chache?
[14:17] <frainfreeze> nope deosn't help
[14:19] <frainfreeze> any idea guys?
[14:20] <frainfreeze> help :P
[14:20] <k1l> frainfreeze: which ubuntu is it exactly?
[14:20] <frainfreeze> 14.04
[14:20] <frainfreeze> ethernet conection
[14:21] <tekk> hi guys, i’m finding USB 3.0 on Ubuntu 14.04 to be a little sluggish… a drive I can get 400MB/s out of on Mac OS X…. gets around 40MB/s on Ubuntu 14.04… is this expected?
[14:21] <frainfreeze> tekk idk for mac but ubuntu is faster than windows, so you might have a problem
[14:22] <tekk> so the usb 3.0 stack in Ubuntu should work as expected?
[14:22] <frainfreeze> works fine for me, I m not expert nor I know anything about it, sorry
[14:23] <frainfreeze> kll
[14:24] <frainfreeze> if i select "use this source" after it downloads I can use software how can i avoid downloading source ? or is it suposed to be like that? | kll
[14:24] <k1l> what software is it?
[14:24] <frainfreeze> every single one
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  maybe everything you want, is in sources that are not activated by default -- or are you using ppas?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  e.g.: universe must be activated by the user
[14:27] <frainfreeze> MonkeyDust , I have no Idea, I just switched from windows
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  ok, so the whole concept of repositories is new to you?
[14:28] <smv> after installing Ubuntu 14.04.1 from CD on a ProBook 4530s the system never boots. initially it booted in efi mode, and the whole system worked fine from the live CD. I believe it has something to do with the hdd partitioning layout, but I don't know where to start checking from. any advices>
[14:28] <smv> ?
[14:28] <frainfreeze> Everything is new, I mean I used ubuntu 12 for some time, i know how to use terminal, etc but nothing about repositories
[14:31] <k1l> frainfreeze: http://askubuntu.com/a/148645/31260
[14:34] <Phuzzy> Hi, can anyone point me to the change log for 12.04.5?
[14:34] <maddawg> wow... chrome's remote desktop actually works quite well in ubuntu
[14:34] <maddawg> O_O... impressive
[14:34] <frainfreeze> kll, i did that and there was no effect, ut you just need to close and reopen software center :D
[14:34] <frainfreeze> thank you
[14:36] <k1l> Phuzzy: its not a change. its more like a "servicepack" with all recent updates for bugs and security fixes since 12.04.4
[14:37] <Phuzzy> k1l: thats exactly what im looking for
[14:37] <Phuzzy> as in what packages are now in by default
[14:38] <k1l> Phuzzy: the same version numbers as of the 12.04 release
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Phuzzy  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.5_.2B-_14.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[14:39] <Phuzzy> so then what is supposed to go here? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/12.04.5
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Phuzzy  the bold text explains what it is or what you can do: it doenst exist yet
[14:41] <k1l> Phuzzy: i think they are still working on it
[14:41] <k1l> Phuzzy: just look up the specific packages you are interested
[14:41] <k1l> packages.ubuntu.com
[14:45] <Phuzzy> right. thanks!
[14:45] <frsfett4> Pulseaudio make sound skipping.
[14:46] <frsfett4> Any idea how to report this bug?
[14:46] <NicksCode> Ohh if I try to open a video with ogg theora totem crashes, and nautoilus crashes if I try to see its properties weird
[14:46] <NicksCode> nautilus*
[14:47] <frsfett4> Using audacious and pulseaudio make sound distorted and skipping.
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  still reporting 'bugs' are you ... if you don't get answer here, ask in #ubuntu-studio, it's multimedia dedicated
[14:49] <frsfett4> the channel is invited only.
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  then !register first
[14:50] <frsfett4> I am from china.
[14:50] <frsfett4> I have no acess to google
[14:50] <somsip> !register | frsfett4
[14:51] <frsfett4> can you send me a proxy app called goagent?
[14:51] <maddawg> are you in china?
[14:51] <frsfett4> I cannot download it.
[14:51] <maddawg> why not?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  then use duckduckgo instead of google
[14:51] <cfhowlett_> frsfett4, use baidu
[14:51] <frsfett4> Yes, the country block google
[14:52] <maddawg> haha
[14:52] <maddawg> get a new country
[14:52] <somsip> !behelpful | maddawg
[14:52] <maddawg> also you should use VPN not a proxy
[14:53] <maddawg> especially in china.. china has blocked a lot of proxy servers now
[14:53] <maddawg> if they block the ability to download the app most likely all the IPs that the apps proxies to are also probably blocked
[14:53] <maddawg> try out mullvad or PIA
[14:54] <NicksCode> When trying to open a video file with OGG theora codec totem segafaults and if I try to view its proerties nautilus segafaults too, got any idea what could that be?
[14:54] <maddawg> (mullvad offeres a free trial)
[14:54] <XYZAFFA1R> I am trying to compile something from source and on the "make" step it returns an error, here is terminal output: http://sprunge.us/fLdJ
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  keep it in the channel please, no pm
[14:55] <frsfett4> I am using bing instead.
[14:55] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, is that from git?
[14:56] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Yes
[14:56] <frsfett4> MonkeyDust, can you send me?
[14:56] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: https://github.com/yvt/openspades.git
[14:57] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, let me try ...
[14:57] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[14:58] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, did you read the README.md ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  www.duckduckgo.com
[14:59] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Of course.
[15:00] <mahdi> Hi every body
[15:01] <mahdi> I have a question and I'm new here
[15:01] <cfhowlett_> !ask | mahdi
[15:01] <marcrs> does anyone have a "Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4359]" network controller working under Ubuntu 14.04? I'm trying to investigate an issue with the broadcom-sta driver whichs does not seem to work properly.
[15:01] <mahdi> Ok. what is best idea for learning Kernel ?
[15:02] <cfhowlett_> !kernel | mahdi
[15:02] <cfhowlett_> mahdi, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[15:02] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, SDL compile with no problems?
[15:03] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Yes
[15:06] <BlackWings> hellow
[15:06] <BlackWings> anybody here with good knowledge of website security/host security & linux ?
[15:07] <xjkx> When will ubuntu 14.10 be released ?
[15:07] <somsip> xjkx: october
[15:07] <xjkx> somsip: thanks
[15:08] <cfhowlett_>  BlackWings ##linux
[15:12] <roadtrip> Is there a certificate exam called Linux+? And what is it?
[15:12] <cfhowlett_> roadtrip, ask ##linux
[15:12] <cfhowlett_> roadtrip, or ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <roadtrip> thanks cfhowlett.
[15:13] <chriys> Hi all, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 but for some reason I can't manage to change DocumentRoot
[15:14] <xangua> chriys: document root? elaborate
[15:14] <Duxiutao> Hi there, my window does not display title bar, what should I do?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> chriys  that's a server?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> chriys  iirc, documentroot is a specification in dhcp settings or so
[15:15] <Duxiutao> `uname -a` shows this:
 chriys  that's a server?
[15:15] <Duxiutao> #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:12 UTC
[15:16] <pbx> any gnome-do users know if there's a plugin for fast user switching?
[15:16] <chriys> xangua MonkeyDust Duxiutao MonkeyDust: I'm talking about apache 2 I want to change the folder where the website is hosted. Instead of /var/www I want /home/myuser/html
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> chriys  apache is also server technology ... is that a server?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> chriys  if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <cfhowlett_> !server | chriys
[15:18] <Duxiutao> chriys, you better ask this in #apache
[15:18] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, my title bar disapeared, what should I do?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  title bar of what exactly?
[15:19] <chriys> MonkeyDust: I was talking about apache 2.2 that little web server that you put you website in it to allow people to see.
[15:19] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, title bar of every window
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <Duxiutao> I googled this, people always say I should run metacity --replace
[15:20] <Duxiutao> but I haven't install that program
[15:21] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, nothing there
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  what's the output of    lsb_release -sd
[15:23] <Duxiutao> nothing either...
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  are you in ubuntu right now, or in any other linux distro?
[15:25] <Duxiutao> ah ... in ubuntu but another distribution under ubuntu 14.10, called kylin:for chinese users
[15:25] <McDuckie> hello
[15:25] <McDuckie> how can i check if a port is blocked on a server?
[15:25] <Duxiutao> hi, McDuckie
[15:25] <McDuckie> i am trying to talk to a smtp server but keep getting connrefused
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  it's impossible that don't have output for the commands I suggested
[15:25] <cfhowlett_> Duxiutao, 14.10?  ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <cfhowlett_> !cn | Duxiutao
[15:26] <Duxiutao> cfhowlett_, thks, 14.04, sorry, I am in 14.04
[15:26] <zerothis> my isp has capped me. only seems to affect major sites like google, amazon, etc. is there a way to bypass?
[15:27] <JNixx> zerothis. What have they capped? Your bandwidth?
[15:27] <cfhowlett_> zerothis, yes.  pay for the premium package
[15:27] <reon_> How would I merge the packages listed on the right hand side off on http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/precise/amd64/ifinnish ?
[15:28] <|Lord_Zoo|>
[15:28] <cfhowlett_> Duxiutao, also: #ubuntukylin-devel
[15:28] <zerothis> jnixx: yup, 2.5gb. premium package offers only 1gb more for %50 more cost (for that I'd just buy as two customers and get 5gb)
[15:29] <JNixx> zerothis: Not much you can do at all. They control the pipes.'
[15:29] <reon_> I have ispell-fi_0.7.orig.tar.gz, ispell-fi_0.7-18.diff & ispell-fi_0.7-18.dsc how do I manually merge them assuming they are to be merged?
[15:30] <zerothis> cfhowlett_: jnixx: what's the point of Linux if I can't stick-it-to-the-man?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> reon_  maybe the people in #bash have a tip or script
[15:30] <JNixx> zerothis: You control Linux, but you don't control server providing you with internet unfortunately :(
[15:30] <Pici> MonkeyDust: this is more of a packaging question
[15:30] <cfhowlett_> zerothis, not the business of this channel.
[15:31] <zerothis> jnixx: cfhowlett: since the cap only affects major sites and everything except web works, I figured I could tunnel past somehow
[15:32] <gundy> ch
[15:34] <JNixx> zerothis: You can try, but i can't see it working. It would be strange if it did.
[15:35] <zerothis> <-- uses Linux. JNixx: "t would be strange" if i were worried about looking strange I'd join the Apple cult
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  what the people in this channel are saying, is that it cannot be done
[15:39] <zerothis> i once used Linux to tunnel my Gamecube through FTP for multiplayer. I have Linux, I can do anything. Just can't remember how i did it
[15:41] <JNixx> zerothis: You are being throttled by a company who controls the equipment your data needs to travel through. They can do whatever they want. It's not like a Gamecube and a Gnu/Linux system you have at home.
[15:42] <ndboost> can something like tmux handle ssh'ing to remote hosts? I'm on a windows box and I ssh into an ubuntu box and do most of my work from that box. Often times I'll ssh from that ubuntu box to various other systems..
[15:43] <somsip> ndboost: yes, but nesting can get a bit weird to control
[15:43] <ndboost> it'd be nice if i could do something like split screens on that single putty/ubuntu box and have ssh sessions from my ubuntu box to 4 different servers
[15:43] <ndboost> nesting... hm
[15:44] <Artemis3> sounds a job for tmux
[15:44] <OEP> ndboost: I think that's sort of the big use case of tmux; ssh to a system once and get multiple shell sessions
[15:44] <somsip> ndboost: so you can ssh to #1, set up your screens, open connections to the other 4. But if you want to then open tmux on one of the other 4, it can get weird
[15:44] <ndboost> OEP, but multiple shell sessions which would ssh to different hosts :)
[15:44] <ndboost> ah okay somsip that seems what i want to do
[15:45] <OEP> ndboost: you can run any arbitrary commands in a tmux subshell; it is a fully functional shell
[15:45] <ndboost> would i use something like tmux new-window
[15:45] <somsip> ndboost: I would use on new window for each connection, but that's just my preference as I use a tiling WM so don't need to split tmux screens
[15:46] <OEP> Does anyone know if they will release a new minimal CD installer for 12.04.5 (with a 3.5 series kernel or greater)
[15:46] <SimonJR> what are best themes for ubuntu 14.04 where can I get them?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !themes | SimonJR we cannot decide what you like most
[15:47] <mjuszczak> Trying to get the source of this package: https://launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+archive/ubuntu/ffmpeg -- any ideas?  I've tried every combination with bzr clone and I've also tried the lp-source binary
[15:48] <SimonJR> ok thanx will check it out later
[15:48] <SimonJR> do I need to use terminal to install it or can I just download and install it
[15:49] <SimonJR> somebody please help me with ubuntu software centre the search menu is missing
[15:50] <SimonJR> there use to be a search box at the right but it is now missing why?
[15:51] <SimonJR> for ubuntu 14.04
[15:51] <mjuszczak> Is there a channel for package builds?
[15:51] <viliny> hey guys
[15:52] <JNixx> viliny: Hi :)
[15:52] <viliny> my isp keeps shutting off my internet service because allegedly i have suspicious traffic. I've combed everything down and can't find what they are talking about. I run a lot of ssh related stuff from home due to also working there and having a mesh vpn going etc etc
[15:52] <viliny> all my traffic at home is routed through my ubuntu server
[15:53] <JNixx> viliny: You have to get them to be more specific. SSH and VPN traffic isn't a concern for an ISP.
[15:53] <viliny> anyone able to recommend a good program to fine comb the traffic and see all outbound ssh connections and their destination?
[15:53] <viliny> Oh how i've tried
[15:53] <viliny> im expecting a phone call from somebody who isn't a complete dumbarse tomorrow...
[15:53] <viliny> this is the third time i've talked them into re-enabling the connection
[15:54] <JNixx> viliny. You could setup an IDS system between your modem and your network.
[15:54] <JNixx> That might pickup something
[15:54] <JNixx> viliny: Also, are you sure now one else has gotten access to a wireless/cabled network you have at home?
[15:55] <viliny> cabled no, wireless... not likely
[15:55] <viliny> id see their devices in the dhcp leases and or client list on the ap
[15:55] <viliny> i actually have snort installed on the server, but i can't pick up any alerts
[15:57] <JNixx> viliny: Without knowing exactly what they call "suspicious traffic" it's hard to diagnose the problem. If it was botnet traffic then you know what to look for. But just getting told that you have sus data coming out of your network is not really enough info.
[15:57] <NeoGeo64> Hey all, I have a quick question:  I have been using Ubuntu on my USB drive for a few weeks and have made it my home, by changing settings, adding programs, etc.  When I install it to my HDD, will it just be a default, normal install or will it keep all of my programs and settings I have added while running in live mode?
[15:57] <NeoGeo64> Actually, it's Linux Mint 17 but its based off Ubuntu.
[15:57] <viliny> JNixx: i know i know, last time they came with port 135 blaa blaa  blaa and i shut off the port completely, this time my network is apparently trying to brute force ssh
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  ask in the mint channel and don't expect a quick answer
[15:58] <viliny> this is probably just... their automated systems failing with my heavy network use - but i'd like to inventory all outbound connections to check if they are legit or if there really is a problem
[15:58] <NeoGeo64> Well, suppose that I am running Ubuntu live off USB.
[15:58] <viliny> any experience with smoothwall?
[15:58] <NeoGeo64> Would installing Ubuntu from the USB drive keep all the settings and programs I added while running in live mode?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  too late, we now know that we cannot help you, because it's modified by the mint people and we don't know what they modified
[15:59] <Pici> NeoGeo64: no
[15:59] <JNixx> viliny: There is a worm going around that infects systems with open port 135 and port 445 from memory. As far as i know it was a Windows dll.
[15:59] <NeoGeo64> Well, what if this was Ubuntu.
[15:59] <NeoGeo64> I also have an Ubuntu USB installation
[15:59] <JNixx> viliny: It would try to brute force SSH
[16:00] <NeoGeo64> I'm undecided as what to commit to... so will my settings and programs be installed or will it be a default install where I have to re-add everything?
[16:00] <NeoGeo64> i also use ubuntu on USB
[16:00] <viliny> any idea what it was called JNixx ?
[16:01]  * NeoGeo64 is sorry for wasting your time.
[16:01]  * NeoGeo64 thought this was a place for help
[16:01] <JNixx> viliny: We picked up multiple copies of the same worm. It's polymorphic so it has a bunch of different hashes, but i'll get you a link to it from virustotal
[16:01] <viliny> NeoGeo64: whats up?
[16:01] <NeoGeo64> just read up.
[16:01] <viliny> thank you JNixx
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> viliny  he wants mint support
[16:01] <ndboost> got tmux working, thanks for the help everyone
[16:01] <NeoGeo64> I also had a Ubuntu question
[16:02] <NeoGeo64> ugh I'll just go to Google.
[16:02] <viliny> NeoGeo64:
[16:02] <JNixx> viliny: http://mcaf.ee/wvi5e
[16:02] <NeoGeo64> viliny:
[16:02] <viliny> NeoGeo64: mint is based off ubuntu but mint has its own channel, ubuntu is based on debian but again, own channeö
[16:03] <viliny> people tend to want to have disribution specific things in their own channels
[16:03] <hamiltont> If I want to install the /etc/apt/sources.list for erlang (see https://www.erlang-solutions.com/downloads/download-erlang-otp ) , is there a one-liner I can use to properly say 'trusty' or 'precise' , etc?
[16:04] <viliny> what you want is irc.spotchat.org -> #linuxmint-help
[16:04] <viliny> apparently...
[16:04] <JNixx> viliny: Once the malware is extrated from that file you end up with http://mcaf.ee/9cq3v which is the actual executable.
[16:04] <viliny> that gave me very little content
[16:05] <dario_> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:05] <hamiltont> ah, I see
[16:05] <viliny> i only see the headers on these links of yours
[16:05] <JNixx> viliny: strange. I'll just link the full link
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: Dropfile > https://www.virustotal.com/en-gb/file/a71bd8965a4eaeee48ffa2c99f5c7d20a763fa1a765d5769412f2f61482aa7b9/analysis/
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: extracted executable: https://www.virustotal.com/en-gb/file/5d243f17cd22d50b129507c4732bf39105ed1f52f4a3a8b3d57425939f9279ae/analysis/
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: I doubt you have it, but it's going around and very active.
[16:07] <viliny> hmm
[16:07] <viliny> i happen to have avg as a knee jerk reaction to this
[16:07] <viliny> i used to use immunet that was based on clamav but didn't bother with its end of life and new desktop...
[16:08] <viliny> point being, avg doesn't seem to detect it
[16:09] <JNixx> viliny: At least not the dropfile. It detect the payload. But newer signatures should detect it. The problem is it's polymorphic, but they all have similarities and herustics should pick it up.
[16:10] <viliny> yeah, im trying adawares virus scanner again
[16:11] <JNixx> BRB
[16:12] <GGChatUser142074> w
[16:16] <fujitsu> f
[16:18] <JNixx> back
[16:20] <Rohan_m> Hello i got a new isp when i try to ssh from windows using putty it works but from ubuntu when i try with openssh it fails connection times out what can be the problem however with my previous ISP i was able to use SSH both from ubuntu and windows What can be the problem ?
[16:21] <JNixx> It shouldn't be an ISP problem
[16:21] <JNixx> Are you using the GUI on Ubuntu or the terminal?
[16:22] <Rohan_m> JNixx: terminal
[16:23] <Rohan_m> JNixx: there
[16:23] <k1l> Rohan_m: you need to give the user with the "ssh" command. it uses the default user if no username is given
[16:23] <JNixx> so when you do: "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it justtimes out?
[16:23] <Rohan_m> k1l: i use command like this "ssh user@host"
[16:24] <JNixx> firewall not blocking outgoing port 22 (or which ever port you use)?
[16:25] <idimmu> is your ubuntu box actually able to connect to the internet?
[16:25] <Rohan_m> idimmu: yes ! but at facebook.com data loss becomes to 99% after sometime however with other ISP netowrk it works fine
[16:26] <Rohan_m> JNixx: did not get you can you please explain
[16:27] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I asked if the firewall on your Ubuntu computer could be blocking outgoing connections on the port you use for SSH, normally port 22.
[16:28] <tsar> Hi. I have installed gnome-do and it isn't running. Terminal output is empty. What can I do to make it work?
[16:28] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i dont know about firewall how do icheck but ssh works when i switch to ther ISP on same router by changing the line both are DHCP
[16:28] <Rohan_m> JNixx: *other isp
[16:29] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Can you explain what you do to change "ISP" in detail pleasde? So I understand what exactly you are doing.
[16:30] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i have a TP link wlan router i simply plug out one ISP's WAN cable and interchange it with other one's
[16:32] <Rohan_m> JNixx: there ?
[16:33] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Well That shouldn't affect your internal network at all. It should just change the public IP address you have.
[16:33] <MindSupernova> how can I get skype working again?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  what happens when you try?
[16:33] <JNixx> rohan_m: where is the PC you want to SSH into from this Ubuntu machine?
[16:33] <ryan_46> kil
[16:33] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, doesn't connect
[16:33] <Rohan_m> JNixx: NY
[16:34] <ryan_46> sorry wrong paste
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  sure your username and password are correct?
[16:34] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I dno't know, maybe IP filtering on the other end?
[16:34] <MindSupernova> yeah I tested it on the skype site MonkeyDust
[16:35] <Rohan_m> MonkeyDust: they are correct
[16:35] <Rohan_m> JNixx: no cause it works from putty when i'm on windows
[16:35] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, what version, 4.2?
[16:35] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, how do I find that out?
[16:36] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, in skype itself, in softwarecenter ..
[16:36] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I'm not sure. There is no difference SSHing from Windows with putty or Ubuntu with openssh
[16:36] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, 4.2
[16:36] <kostkon> MindSupernova, get 4.3
[16:36] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, there should be an update to 4.3, skype blocked connections from 4.2 now
[16:37] <MindSupernova> how?
[16:37] <OerHeks> just update
[16:37] <Rohan_m> JNixx: also facebook open while i'm on windows but does not open from ubuntu and android also whatsapp doest work when i'm on that ISP however facebook works from windows i did a mtr
[16:37] <kostkon> MindSupernova, repos have 4.3 already. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[16:37] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Have you check your DNS settings on Ubuntu
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Microsoft forces people to upgrade to 4.3, there's an angry blog about it
[16:37] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:37] <Rohan_m> JNixx: yeah !
[16:37] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, 12.04
[16:37] <expunge> 4.3 of what?
[16:38] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, should I try rebooting? I already did sudo apt-get update and don't see a change
[16:38] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Can you try giving your Ubnutu box a static IP and static DNS (<IP_ADDRESS> for example)
[16:38] <kostkon> MindSupernova, you need to enable the Partner repo and then you'll get the update
[16:38] <MindSupernova> kostkon, how?
[16:38] <Rohan_m> JNixx: yeah i did that but DNS automatically comes back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:39] <viliny> JNixx: hey so back again, ran a scan on all computers and results are 6 cookies, which are the same across computers no other problems...
[16:39] <kostkon> MindSupernova, open the update manager, click on settings, then on 3rd party software
[16:39] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i did it from /etc/resolv.conf
[16:39] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, i have no info that skype 4.3 is not available for 12.04
[16:39] <viliny> these computers be recently reinstalled and stuff, so im back to trying to figure out the ssh traffic on my linux router - any tips on suitable software? :)
[16:39] <Rohan_m> JNixx: cant give my ISP does not support it
[16:39] <viliny> tried etherape but its a mess
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  i have 4.3 on 12.04.4
[16:39] <JNixx> Rohan_m: that's wrong. goto /etc/resolv.conf and set nameserver "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[16:40] <JNixx> viliny: Well that's good i guess :)
[16:40] <viliny> yeah but i knew this already :)
[16:40] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, you might want to try :  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:40] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I mean /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:40] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, dist-upgrade might trigger the update
[16:41] <Rohan_m> JNixx: in my ubuntu 14.04 there is no directory resolvconf how ever /etc/resolv.conf is there
[16:41] <Rohan_m> JNixx: ok there is directory wait
[16:42] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, nope. I can't find partner repo kostkon
[16:43] <JNixx> viliny: Sorry i'm not sure. Id setup an IDS system on an own box to monitor the network. An  easy one to use is Sophos UTM. I use it at home.
[16:43] <JNixx> viliny: But i'd say you're clean.
[16:43] <MindSupernova> kostkon, is it canonical partners?
[16:46] <MindSupernova> I tried canonical partners but that didn't work
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  you first have to apt-get update, after you activated it
[16:47] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, how do I uninstall it?
[16:47] <bialykot> hi ppl
[16:47] <kostkon> MindSupernova, ?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  uninstall what?
[16:48] <MindSupernova> uninstall skype so I can install the new 4.3
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  simply upgrade, no need to uninstall
[16:48] <expunge> binaryhat: heya
[16:48] <MindSupernova> I downloaded the new one from the skype website but installing it didn't do a thing. should I reboot?
[16:49] <kostkon> MindSupernova, just simply check for updates in the update manager
[16:49] <kostkon> MindSupernova, click on the button
[16:49] <viliny> JNixx: im using tcpdump to log all traffic outwards to ssh and seeing no traffic
[16:49] <expunge> MindSupernova: use the package manager
[16:49] <MindSupernova> there nothing but a suggestiong to upgrade to 14.04
[16:49] <Scriptonaut> guys, so I have a hdd that is around 300GB. It says that there isn't really much data on it, but I'm fairly sure there is, because I never formatted it, it was running windows and became corrupted or something. How would I attempt to recover it?
[16:49] <viliny> if i initiate a remote ssh to my shell provider i can see that but nothings else
[16:49] <JNixx> viliny: I think your ISP has made a mistake then.  The drive was never formatted, but it says that it's basically empty
[16:51] <viliny> JNixx: im getting brute forced from china
[16:51] <MindSupernova> kostkon, there's nothing man
[16:51] <JNixx> viliny: who isn't :P Get off port 22 and it will stop. It's just bots
[16:52] <zeroquake> hey any tutorials giving simple top down view of how stuff works in ubuntu?
[16:52] <viliny> this ill block china
[16:52] <expunge> zeroquake: stuff?
[16:52] <Pici> viliny: consider installing and running fail2ban or similar.
[16:52] <MindSupernova> kostkon, in ubuntu software center there's a box suggestiong skype:i386 must be removed before installing skype 4.3
[16:52] <viliny> think i'll, but do you think the isp has trouble differentiating attacks and me attacking?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> !manual | zeroquake start here
[16:52] <zeroquake> i nevah used linux , planning to learn it .
[16:52] <MindSupernova> kostkon, should I select install anyway?
[16:52] <Scriptonaut> so does anyone know of a way to recover ntsf?
[16:52] <zeroquake> yup , will start with that.
[16:53] <Scriptonaut> there is a windows recovery drive
[16:53] <Scriptonaut> that is 8.61GB filled (out of 9.43GB)]\
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> zeroquake  learn ubuntu like you learned windows or mac: by using it and getting familiar with it
[16:53] <JNixx> viliny: The ISP will know the difference.
[16:53] <viliny> Pici: what is fail2ban?
[16:53] <viliny> JNixx: but these people were seriously... lost
[16:53] <kostkon> MindSupernova, that's when you try to install the .deb from skype.com?
[16:53] <MindSupernova> kostkon, yeah
[16:53] <JNixx> viliny: Their support desk i guess. But it would be strange for an ISP to cut off a customer because they are getting normal bot traffic from China.
[16:54] <expunge> MindSupernova: that would be the wrong way
[16:54] <zeroquake> yes . the reason i gave up on it last time was if i come across some error or something , i had to google , coudnt understand most of the answers , will give it another try now.
[16:54] <Pici> viliny: A tool that uses iptables or hostsdeny to ban addresses that make numerous failed authentication requests to ssh and similar services.
[16:54] <Pici> viliny: its pretty much a must-have on any web-facing install I do.
[16:54] <viliny> Pici: ah thanks, does it require a lot of time?
[16:54] <MindSupernova> expunge, I tried sudo apt-get remove skype but it suggests to use auto-remove and there's a lot of packages wanting to be removed
[16:55] <MindSupernova> about 500 mb
[16:55] <Pici> viliny: It starts working as soon as you install the package, the defaults are very sane.
[16:55] <viliny> anyone familiar with webmin for linux firewalling? i want to wildcard the s#¤% out of chinas ip range...
[16:55] <JNixx> viliny: apt-get install fail2ban that's it. Standard is 6 attemps before ban
[16:55] <expunge> MindSupernova: you don't need to remove it
[16:55] <expunge> MindSupernova: just install the newer version _from your package manager, not skype.com_
[16:56] <viliny> thanks guys
[16:56] <kostkon> MindSupernova, you could try giving the following command:   apt-cache policy skype*      then pasting the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:57] <viliny> they told me the attacks are every hour 10 to the hour... this attack i just got that was directed AT me fits the description... i mean these people couldn't find their ass with a map so im wondering if they could have failed to see the difference between inbound and outbound :/
[16:57] <viliny> can you check fail2ban logs or results or banlist somewhere?
[16:57] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018666/
[16:58] <JNixx> viliny: It's in /var/log/auth.log and fail2ban.log (or something like that.)
[16:58] <MindSupernova> expunge, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018666/
[16:59] <viliny> my auth.log is absolutely FILLED with snort saying i have bad traffic on ipv6
[16:59] <JNixx> viliny: Are you on IPv6? Fail2ban doesn't support it yet'
[16:59] <JNixx> viliny: use SSHGuard
[17:00] <viliny> any easy way to just disable ipv6 altogether?
[17:00] <kostkon> MindSupernova, apt-cache policy skype:i386  ?
[17:01] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018692/
[17:01] <MindSupernova> expunge, ^
[17:01] <expunge> viliny: if you're using network-manager, yeah
[17:02] <viliny> hey my server is sending out 22 traffic to the ministry of defense in london
[17:02] <JNixx> viliny: That's not good
[17:03] <JNixx> viliny: Unplug it
[17:03] <JNixx> viliny: time to reformat the system
[17:03] <kostkon> MindSupernova, it says 4.3 even if it is the 32bit version
[17:04] <dft> heh what happened to raring under http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[17:04] <dft> all the raring directories are gone?
[17:04] <DJones> !Eol | dft
[17:05] <dft> ubottu: poo
[17:05] <DJones> dft: It became end of life in January, the repo's will have been removed
[17:05] <xyNNN> anyone xp with the dell xps 13 notebook?
[17:05] <dft> DJones: ok ty
[17:06] <OerHeks> xyNNN, XP ? not supported here and EOL
[17:06] <DJones> !eolupgrade | dft This may be useful info,
[17:06] <xyNNN> Experience .... oh my god.. not windows xp
[17:09] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://imgur.com/lxrlAWo,p1seqSw,AWIjpEp
[17:10] <syntroPi> how come the update server for germany delivers packets which arent trustworthy(cant be verified by apt) but the main server delivers those updates without any problems?
[17:11] <kostkon> MindSupernova, what happens when you try to remove it,   sudo apt-get remove skype
[17:11] <syntroPi> malicious packets in question include libavcodec54 libavformat54 libavdevice53 libavresample1 libswscale2 libavfilter3 libav-tools
[17:12] <OerHeks> syntroPi, good question, ask this in #ubuntu-de too.
[17:12] <MeXTuX> I have been having some issues when burning 25 GB blu-ray discs. The error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018745/ the UDF image was created using truncate command. Some pages recommend using dvd+rw-format or growisofs -use-the-force-luke=spare:none option. Any ideas?
[17:13] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018810/ && http://imgur.com/Q6xyBsL
[17:14] <MindSupernova> I just did a check and still nothing
[17:15] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, ah, you are set to LTS releases, change your updates back
[17:15] <kostkon> MindSupernova, ok, I'll rephrase. What happens when you try to remove  sudo apt-get remove skype:i386
[17:18] <MindSupernova> ah you guys are fucking awesome.
[17:18] <MindSupernova> kostkon, skype:i386 will be removed
[17:19] <IdleOne> No swearing please
[17:19] <MindSupernova> woops
[17:19] <kostkon> MindSupernova, do it, then sudo apt-get install skype and THEN  open your file manager, press CTRL+H or View -> Show Hidden Files from the menu and delete the folder .Skype
[17:20] <waldemar> Hey there, i have a problem with Unison, can i ask for help in this channel?
[17:21] <expunge> waldemar: problem with unison on ubuntu? =P
[17:21] <waldemar> Yes :)
[17:21] <expunge> this is a good spot, then
[17:21] <waldemar> both server and client
[17:22] <waldemar> Ok, i have set up a sync pair with an ssh server on an ubuntu 12.04 server 32 bit and an ubuntu 12.04 desktop 32 bit
[17:23] <waldemar> at first everything worked, but after a few month i recognized, that when i create a new folder on the client and create or paste data in it, sometimes unison does not recognize it and does not synchronize it
[17:23] <waldemar> i have no idea what to do about it
[17:23] <loa> hello, ubuntu people.
[17:24] <loa> maybe it will be offtopic but i wonder maybe someone knows games like FTL?
[17:24] <loa> such atmosphere for example.
[17:24] <expunge> loa: someone probably does
[17:24] <expunge> ah
[17:24] <waldemar> expunge: oh sorry, shoud i write your name befor my messages, so you see it highlighted?
[17:25] <Pici> loa: such as rougelikes: nethack? dungeon crawl stone soup?
[17:25] <zerothis> cap issue solved, I have Linux I can do anything. Including bypassing my ISP cap
[17:25] <laini> i have backbox
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  how did you do it?
[17:25] <expunge> loa: why not just play FTL
[17:26] <MindSupernova> I have to add everyone back into my contact list?
[17:26] <loa> export, want something new)
[17:26] <expunge> loa: oh =)
[17:26] <expunge> loa: ever played MegaTraveller?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  no, they are on the skype servers
[17:27] <MindSupernova> how do I retrieve it?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  by logging in
[17:27] <MindSupernova> no its empty
[17:27] <expunge> loa: http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/660/MegaTraveller+1+-+The+Zhodani+Conspiracy.html
[17:28] <zerothis> ping still works, I ping the addresses of the blocked sites and get the IP address back. then browse to the ip addr
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  maybe no one is online and your offline buddies are hidden
[17:29] <zerothis> also, the links browser works out-of-the-box.
[17:29] <expunge> loa: Planet's Edge is a little like that, too
[17:30] <zerothis> we'll I'm off to tell Linux to count to infinity, twice, once backwards
[17:30] <loa> expunge, you are oldschool)
[17:30]  * zerothis afk
[17:30] <chriys> hey guys when I set AllowOverride All in Apache 2.4 I get Internal Server Error on the browser
[17:30] <waldemar> hm should i repeat my question, i thnk most people don't see it anymore?
[17:30] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, ah-ha! you were right. I just had to wait and contacts now appeared. Thanks to everybody you guys are wonderful.
[17:30] <pitwalker> Greetings to everyone. I have text disappearing problem on a fresh 14.04.1 install. The problem first appeared in the graphical install keyboard layout selecting screen. In synaptic (ubnutu/lxde) the categories and the listed packages hiding during a mouseover. Any idea?
[17:30] <expunge> waldemar: perfectly fine
[17:30] <expunge> chriys: #httpd
[17:31] <chriys> thx
[17:31] <expunge> loa: maybe, but FTL is clearly a throwback to older schools
[17:31] <Beldar> waldemar, Every 10 min is asked for as a wait time for reposting.
[17:32] <waldemar> i have set up a Unison sync pair with an ssh server on an ubuntu 12.04 server 32 bit and an ubuntu 12.04 desktop 32 bit. At first everything worked, but after a few month i recognized, that when i create a new folder on the client and create or paste data in it, sometimes unison does not recognize it and does not synchronize it
[17:32] <expunge> waldemar: well then, if it doesn't give you an error message, I'd suggest using better software =)
[17:33] <waldemar> expunge: you mean an alternative for rsync or for unison as client
[17:33] <expunge> rsync is fine, unison I wouldn't vouch for
[17:34] <waldemar> expunge: do you know a trusty alternative for unison?
[17:34] <expunge> maybe lsyncd
[17:34] <expunge> I think I'd just use rsync/rdiff-backup and a cron
[17:35] <waldemar> expunge: A frontend which shows the changes as a list is important
[17:35] <expunge> it is?
[17:36] <waldemar> yes, it is for my girlfriend and it is important for her
[17:36] <waldemar> so i gues it is a must have ;)
[17:37] <expunge> you want a list of the things you're backing up?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  not sure if it's useful,   watch -n 1 -d [command]             shows differences in realtime
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> differences/changes
[17:39] <joelmo> how chan I change the key placements of super and alt in software, I run linux on a macbook, the super and alt keys are in different positions when I plugin a pc keyboard, im aware of setxkbdmap -otion altwin:swap_alt_win but this changes the placement of the keys at both keyboards so they are still inconsistent
[17:39] <expunge> waldemar: with rdiff-backup/-fs, you could simply diff -qr two dirs
[17:39] <waldemar> it is to sync a relatively big directory with multiple subdirectories, to not lose the overview it is important that she can see it. Also she is a former windows user and she definitely needs a gui.
[17:40] <waldemar> With options like skip, ignore, etc.
[17:40] <expunge> the overview?
[17:40] <expunge> skip ignore?
[17:40] <expunge> why would you want to skip or ignore something...
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  try grsync
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  but if she wants something that look exactly like windows, she should use windows
[17:42] <waldemar> MonkeyDust: that's not the point, she just needs a gui, because she don't want to learn to write commands into the shell
[17:43] <expunge> a gui for what?
[17:43] <expunge> you trying to make backing up non-automated for some reason?...
[17:43] <joelmo> what are you looking for waldemar
[17:43] <expunge> that's less reliable
[17:43] <waldemar> joelmo: i have a problem with unison, it sometimes does not recognize new folders
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  explain that the shell is more reliable, faster and more versatile than any gui
[17:44] <joelmo> hm i dont know unison so well, I use dejadup which have worked for me
[17:44] <waldemar> MonkeyDust: She really is not that good with computers
[17:45] <joelmo> dejadup have a gui too
[17:46] <dino82> Make a fakeui with buttons on a php page that run shell scripts ?
[17:47] <expunge> waldemar: a person who isn't good with computers should not be manually running backups
[17:47] <expunge> automate it, and forget it
[17:48] <joelmo> automatic backups are probably useful no matter if you are good with computers anyway
[17:50] <dino82> Uh yarrak dont msg random people youtube links thanks
[17:52] <zerothis> MonkeyDust: save time bypassing cap with:  ping -c 1 google.com | grep -o '[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}' | google-chrome
[17:53] <waldemar> expunge, joelmo: Ok, to explain the whole story: She has to work on the same data, at home on her own Computer and at Work on her office Computer. It is a very small Office from the university and they are all social scientists, so no people who understand any more then where the power button of the computer is. To work on her data, she carries arround a USB hard drive. She fears, to lose it, so she wants to backup it on the server.
[17:54] <expunge> right, that's an ordinary person who needs a backup _system_
[17:54] <expunge> set up a backup _system_ and forget about it
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  sure you're addressing the right person?
[17:55] <expunge> copy at work, copy at home, and for extra redundancy, one more copy elsewhere (on a network, don't waste time with a usb stick)
[17:57] <joelmo> waldemar, deja-dup can backup to any ssh, ftp, or s3 store, I just put my backups on a thumbdrive
[17:57] <expunge> that's such a cumbersome approach
[17:57] <expunge> that is what people without good backup systems do
[17:58] <expunge> a good backup system requires no human intervention
[17:58] <OerHeks> expunge, who tests the backup, the computer?
[17:59] <samuraiRM> hi
[17:59] <expunge> tests it for what?
[17:59] <expunge> samuraiRM: hi
[17:59] <samuraiRM>  /join xubuntu
[17:59] <renebarbosa> backups without testes are so secure as not having backups
[17:59] <renebarbosa> without tests*
[17:59] <samuraiRM> channel xubuntu?
[17:59] <expunge> renebarbosa: that's quite a silly thing you just said
[18:00] <OerHeks>  /join #xubuntu
[18:00] <expunge> samuraiRM: /msg alis list *xubuntu*
[18:00] <renebarbosa> no it's not :)
[18:00] <expunge> it is, you just said backups are as secure as not having backups
[18:00] <expunge> which is patently false
[18:00] <renebarbosa> expunge, no
[18:00] <expunge> yup
[18:00] <renebarbosa> not tested backups are so secure as not having them
[18:00] <renebarbosa> it's a fact
[18:00] <renebarbosa> if you don't test them
[18:00] <expunge> doesn't matter how you qualify it, that's what you said
[18:01] <renebarbosa> what you will do when you need it and they .. err.. don't work?
[18:01] <samuraiRM>  /msg alis list *xubuntu*
[18:01] <OerHeks> i reacted on " requires no human intervention"
[18:01] <renebarbosa> sit and cry? :P
[18:01] <samuraiRM> thanks
[18:01] <expunge> renebarbosa: define test please
[18:01] <samuraiRM> where is the cahannel
[18:01] <Beldar> renebarbosa, Can you lay off the enter key and stick with actual support.
[18:01] <samuraiRM> for xubuntu?
[18:01] <expunge> samuraiRM: that command will tell you
[18:01] <Pici> samuraiRM: its called #xubuntu
[18:01] <Pici> oddly enough
[18:01] <red_> how to open webpage in terminal ??
[18:02] <expunge> red_: xdg-open URI, or name_of_browser_executable URI
[18:02] <Pici> red_: w3m comes with Ubuntu Server.
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> red_  lunx and links2 are terminal browsers
[18:02] <Beldar> red_, ^^
[18:02] <red_> thanks guys!!
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> red_  lynx and links2 are terminal browsers
[18:03] <Bluewolf> How's do I make a USB drive an OS install Drive?
[18:03]  * OerHeks loves W3M with utf support
[18:03] <expunge> Bluewolf: from Ubuntu?
[18:04] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, one usb with the iso, and select 2nd usb as destination to install
[18:04] <expunge> Bluewolf: you can use an app like unetbootin
[18:04] <expunge> Bluewolf: or if you're careful, dd
[18:04] <OerHeks> unetbootin will make a live iso, not install
[18:05] <Bluewolf> expunge, Yes, Ubuntu 14.04. What program would I use to make a live .iso off the USB Flash?
[18:05] <jon-work> seems the 12.04->14.04.1 LTS upgrade finally works. no announcement email was sent, though
[18:05] <OerHeks> !spam | yarrak please don'tspam in Dm, thanks
[18:05] <Beldar> Bluewolf, Are you trying to make a install usb of an installed ubuntu?
[18:05] <expunge> Bluewolf: I just said
[18:06] <dino82> Yeah can the OP get rid of yarrak please
[18:06] <Bluewolf> Beldar, No, I want to burn a .iso to my flash so I can reinstall off my USB?
[18:06] <Beldar> report the spam to the mods as evidence
[18:07] <artsy> Pici: a bit too narrow banmask possibly. D:
[18:07] <Pici> artsy: we'll see.
[18:07] <morkeleb> Help! I just added a repository with this line: "add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver" - now I need to remove and purge it. How?
[18:08] <tsar> Greetings. I've installed tracker and I want to use its search tool, but looks like it hasn't indexed anything. How can I make tracker index my files? They are already included in its settings.
[18:08] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, just use unetbootin to make a live bootable usb
[18:08] <Beldar> Bluewolf, No installed OS to do this with or another computer?
[18:09] <Beldar> Bluewolf, If you have a linux with grub there you can boot the iso with grub.
[18:12] <paullus> hi, does anyone know how to change the login screen of Ubuntu 14.04 to look like the one in 12.04?
[18:13] <paullus> also, how can I display the distro name and version number on my wallpaper?
[18:13] <Myrtti> hm
[18:14] <Bluewolf> OerHeks - There was a program I used before which I did not need to install, unetbootin needs to be installed through Software Center?
[18:14] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, oh, if you run ubuntu now, why not the standard usb-creator ?
[18:14] <staxxx> Hello everyone. Under pulseaudio, I can only see "Dummy output" and "No cards available for configuration". The sound level bars are moving for the dummy output, but there is no sound output... any help please?
 sudo aplay -l returns a: no soundcards found
[18:15] <OerHeks> else yes,unetbootin is in softwarecenter
[18:15] <Bluewolf> OerHeks, Yes that's it, is it okay to use that?
[18:15] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, sure, works fine here.
[18:18] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: That's strange, I have an 8GB USB and its telling me "There is not enough space for this image." The image in question is a 1.2GB .iso?
[18:18] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, format the usb first
[18:18] <OerHeks> fat32
[18:19] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Oh okay I formated it to NTFS, Long or slow format?
[18:19] <expunge> Bluewolf: unetbootin is?
[18:19] <Bluewolf> expunge, Is?
[18:19] <expunge> Bluewolf: you said 'it', did you mean unetbootin?
[18:20] <expunge> Bluewolf: is it that hard of a question? =)
[18:20] <Bluewolf> expunge, You nearly lost me, with it I meant - standard usb-creator
[18:21] <dino82> I imagine shuffling through page after page of notes and scribblings
[18:21] <expunge> Bluewolf: use unetbootin, it works
[18:23] <Beldar> Bluewolf, The ubuntu startup disc creator only works on ubunti iso's
[18:23] <Bluewolf> expunge, OerHeks: There seems to be a debate between - unetbootin and the standard usb-creator, what's the difference between the two and does it matter which I use - The .iso is debian?
[18:24] <expunge> Bluewolf: ATM I'd say the difference is unetbootin would complain less and work more
[18:24] <OerHeks> well, you didn't mention debian iso, verry funny
[18:24] <expunge> but if either does the job, either is fine
[18:25] <picca> hello, I am the DD in charge of the tango package, I would like an update of this package in 14.04. what is the procedure to follow
[18:26] <expunge> picca: the DD?
[18:26] <Pici> picca: Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and #ubuntu-motu
[18:27] <picca> Pici: thanks
[18:28] <chriys> hey is it possible to create an image of my server to install on another server ?
[18:28] <expunge> chriys: yup
[18:28] <expunge> chriys: but it's simpler to just duplicate the partition table, copy the data, and install grub
[18:28] <chriys> basically I want to have all the settings I have on my new vps to the old one
[18:29] <chriys> oh ok how to do that ?
[18:29] <Bluewolf> OerHeks, Sorry my mistake, but I am still trying to do it in Ubuntu 14.04. I formated the USB and its allowing me to continue so do I or does the standard usb-creator not work with other OS's?
[18:30] <Bashing-om> chriys: Check out -> apt-cache show aptoncd <-. see if that suits your needs .
[18:30]  * expunge headdesks
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can backup and restore a partition table with sfdisk, or sgdisk
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can install grub with grub-install
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can copy data reliably with rsync -ap /mnt/original/ /mnt/new/
[18:30] <chriys> expunge: ok but what's easier and how to do that
[18:30] <expunge> what's easier?
[18:31] <chriys> yeah
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> chriys  how much easier do you want it?
[18:31] <chriys> the most possible
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> chriys  it doesnt get much easier than 10 character commands
[18:32] <Beldar> Bluewolf, There are handfuls of usb loaders it is not rocket science, the info you need is all over the web, there is a debian channel. Is the so far outside your ability to just figure out?
[18:32] <absk007_> It's been more than 6 days since running my minilaptop ASUS 1215B continuously with Lubuntu OS.
[18:32] <chriys> MonkeyDust: lets go then what should I do
[18:32] <Beldar> this*
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> chriys  follow expunge 's suggestions
[18:33] <Beldar> absk007, This is support.
[18:34] <dman129> hi guys ... i installed apache 2 and tried to access it from a external ip ... well all i can see is a white page for whatever i type in ... from the inside of my home network i can see the everything ...  for example   test.no-ip.org/index.html   stays white without text from outside but works from inside
[18:34] <dman129> can u help me here pls
[18:34] <Bluewolf> Beldar: No it's not far out of my ability to figure out, but I have done that in the past an mad a big error. So do forgive me if I would rather be careful.....
[18:34] <absk007> Beldar, then I wanna know If i should run it like so?
[18:35] <Beldar> absk007, Can you be clearer please?
[18:35] <chriys> expunge: do you have a link or something cause I didnt understand very you suggestion
[18:35] <absk007> Beldar, should i run the laptop continuously for so long?
[18:36] <absk007> is it harmful for both me & my laptop?
[18:36] <Beldar> absk007, Unless it's overheating many do.
[18:36] <expunge> chriys: no... I should do a writeup, meh
[18:37] <absk007> Beldar, My Core temp. rises to whopping 90 degrees while browsing. And now it's 67 degrees Celsius.
[18:37] <Beldar> absk007, I never turn mine off, I just use suspend when not using.
[18:37] <OerHeks> absk007, depends on the cpu, 90' can be good or bad
[18:37] <Beldar> absk007, clean it with a air can and get a cooling pad to start with.
[18:37] <absk007> Beldar, but while I'm not using, i download something from internet. So my laptop is always on
[18:38] <absk007> OerHeks, it's a atom like cpu.  But the exhaust is at the side.
[18:39] <expunge> kind of like hard drive failure, really; if it fails, you have to replace it, and if it doesn't, you don't
[18:39] <expunge> no point worry about it
[18:39] <expunge> worrying =P
[18:39] <absk007> expunge, my 320GB HDD already failed
[18:39] <expunge> absk007: then you have to replace it =)
[18:39] <absk007> running using thumb drv. 7.42 GB
[18:40] <ssarah> hei, what's the package name for free file sync? or why isnt it part of the default repository and what's the alternative?
[18:40] <expunge> ubuntu1 ?
[18:41] <ssarah> uh?
[18:41] <expunge> uh?
[18:41] <Beldar> ssarah, The alternative was a text install now since 12.04 called the mini a tiny net installer.
[18:41] <expunge> ...
[18:43] <ssarah> by alternative i mean the software that's in the repositories by default that is like free file sync
[18:43] <ssarah> like uniso, but that didnt seem to work right
[18:43] <ssarah> *unison
[18:43] <OerHeks> !info rsync
[18:43] <Beldar> ssarah, helps if you just give your end goals, there are many apps that do similar things.
[18:44] <expunge> ssarah: oh are you whosit's girlfriend?
[18:44] <expunge> ssarah: waldemar's?
[18:44] <ssarah> read my name backwards and stop doing it.
[18:44] <Beldar> bad to be asking that
[18:44] <Artemis3> ignore no support questions
[18:44] <ssarah> just sync a folder across a secure LAN
[18:45] <Beldar> expunge, You are the one who was all over me for outing a user, lol.
[18:45] <expunge> ssarah: over and over, or once?
[18:45] <expunge> Beldar: hrmm?
[18:45] <ssarah> from user:192.168.1.n:/home/user/ to user:192.168.1.m:/home/user/ to
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: you can use scp -r for a one-off
[18:46] <ssarah> nevermind, i changed my mind, expunge, please continue, it reminds me of the irc golden days
[18:46] <ssarah> nein, it should be a daily thing
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: I'd probably mount the remote/s with sshfs and use rsync -a
[18:46] <fission6> not sure if this is the right channel but I was running a screen session which has a uwsgi process and i went to look at it after several weeks and it looks like this now http://i.imgur.com/lOhhN0h.png
[18:46] <ssarah> yeh, a cron job with rsync sounded like an option
[18:46] <expunge> the irc golden days when someone came in and mentioned his girlfriend's unison was broken, and then someone with a female-looking name came in and asked about unison?
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: a good option
[18:47] <ssarah> yeh, but such a hassle to remember those things
[18:47] <expunge> fission6: type 'reset' and hit enter
[18:47] <ssarah> info me, expunge, im XX
[18:47] <expunge> you're XX?
[18:47] <ssarah> wait wait, that's wrong im XY
[18:47] <Artemis3> -_-
[18:47] <ssarah> manly man
[18:47] <expunge> ah
[18:47] <fission6> expunge: amazine
[18:48] <expunge> I really don't care...
[18:48] <fission6> what was my issue?
[18:48] <ssarah> ah ok
[18:48] <expunge> fission6: your shell probably caught some output that wasn't meant for it
[18:48] <expunge> fission6: and confused it properly
[18:48] <fission6> weird
[18:48] <expunge> yeah, happens
[18:48] <fission6> so weird
[18:48] <fission6> thank you!
[18:48] <expunge> np
[18:49] <ssarah> im reading about rsync
[18:49] <ssarah> such a hassle...
[18:49] <expunge> ssarah: rsync -a one/ two/
[18:49] <expunge> all there is to it
[18:49] <expunge> not to be confused with rsync -a one two/
[18:49]  * Beldar rolls their eyes on a "probably" answer taken as a actual answer.
[18:50] <expunge> and what is the difference between an answer and an actual answer, I wonder
[18:50] <preyalone> Why doesn't apticron ever email me?
[18:50] <expunge> and when did you become a plurality? =P too much popcorn?
[18:50] <expunge> preyalone: I'd use && and an email sending app for that
[18:51] <ssarah> expunge, ok, but i need the remote user on that, rsync -a /home/user/ user:<IP_ADDRESS>/home/user/backup
[18:51] <ssarah> as so?
[18:51] <expunge> cron's job is ideally... cronning
[18:51] <expunge> ssarah: you can use rsync via ssh, but again, I'd just use sshfs, it simplifies things a lot
[18:52] <ssarah> ok, so, make script with: mount sshfs then rsync and put that on cron?
[18:52] <expunge> yeah why not
[18:52] <ssarah> sounds good
[18:52] <ssarah> but i like to be a script kiddie. unison sounded good, but didnt work, oh well.
[18:54] <expunge> unison sounds very high level to me
[18:54] <expunge> more to go wrong, less to know about why
[18:55] <andymcnab4> .xchat2/budus.so
[18:55] <ssarah> but on the other hand, all that nice research the guy that made it did, is not gona be used
[18:59] <BITSY> .
[18:59] <quantibility> .
[19:01] <andymcnab4> correre per vivere meglio
[19:03] <andymcnab4> licantropo
[19:03] <Pici> !it | andymcnab4
[19:05] <absk007> How to choose keyboard shortcuts for Openbox?
[19:07] <AnnaH> anna
[19:08] <AnnaH> by
[19:08] <AnnaH> good by
[19:17] <fission6> will this create a temporary swap https://github.com/pydata/pandas/issues/1880#issuecomment-9920484
[19:18] <Base64-> Hey, is it possible to create a vpn connection pre login screen, then do a ldap auth over that?
[19:18] <Pici> fission6: looks fine to me.
[19:18] <Base64-> I cant see why not, but wanted to check
[19:19] <fission6> how do i stop using it and clean it up after I complile something Pici
[19:19] <pbx> anyone know a command accessible via gnome-do for fast user switching?
[19:19] <quantibility> try bash
[19:19] <quantibility> #bash
[19:20] <Beldar> !who | quantibility
[19:20] <quantibility> pbx
[19:20] <quantibility> there
[19:20] <quantibility> sheesh
[19:20] <Pici> fission6: take a look at the swapoff command.
[19:20] <fission6> thanks
[19:20] <Pici> quantibility: what does that have to do with bash?
[19:21] <Beldar> quantibility, Just asking you to make sense, and lay off the enter.
[19:23] <ciscoftw> having problem enabling swap on my system... top shows now swap, but fstab says to mount it ...also cant start it via 'swapon /dev/mapper/...' ...i'm using an encypted filesystem too
[19:24] <LostNva> ubottu: how do you do the !tab to enter name, easy things elude me.
[19:24] <rww> LostNva: I just typed Lo and pressed the tab key on my keyboard
[19:26] <LostNva> rww, ok got it
[19:26] <jhattara> ubuntu 14.04 with logitech USB headset (ubuntu says it's Permium Stereo USB Headset 350) has audio channels reversed (right plays left, left plays right) any ideas how to fix this ?
[19:27] <jhutchins> jhattara: rewire?
[19:29] <deftones43> anyone here that can answer a Ubuntu install question?
[19:29] <absk007> which is lightweight Geany or Bluefish? I need a lightweight programming text editor.
[19:30] <jhutchins> deftones43: We won't know until you ask it.
[19:30] <jhutchins> absk007: vi
[19:30] <absk007> jhutchins, GUI based
[19:30] <bekks> absk007: gvim
[19:31] <absk007> bekks, anything unrelated to vi
[19:31] <bekks> absk007: kate
[19:31] <jhutchins> AFIK the only programming language that even cares about fonts is APL.
[19:31] <deftones43> ok, I have ab acer 5520 laptop, my dvd drive seems to not be reading dvd's, only cd's. I can't seem to get the usb install method to work either. Is there a minimal installer I can put on a cd to install ubuntu, or i heard there was a net installer. would either one of these methods be possible?
[19:31] <absk007> bekks, Kate would require me to download more libs.
[19:32] <absk007> bekks, i'm limited space
[19:32] <absk007> ^i've
[19:32] <bekks> absk007: Thats a requirement for almost every graphical editor.
[19:32] <Base64-> Any thoughts on whether ubuntu gui login page connected to ldap would work over a certificate based vpn connection during boot?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !mini | deftones43 is this useful
[19:32] <Pici> absk007: mousepad perhaps?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> absk007  leafpad is light and fast
[19:34] <deftones43> thanks ubottu. I was having trouble navigating the site to locate that. I'm currently using (gag) windows xp on this thing. lol
[19:34] <absk007> MonkeyDust, it's not a programming editor
[19:34] <jhutchins> Base64-: No reason it wouldn't.
[19:35] <Ilyas> test
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> absk007  there's a new versatile editor, read it on omgubuntu or so, moment...
[19:35] <absk007> Pici, it's not a programming editor
[19:35] <jhutchins> absk007: you have mutually exclusive conditions.
[19:35] <Pici> absk007: I personally haven't used it. I was just thinking of lightweight editors.  I use vim myself.
[19:35] <Base64-> Jhutchins: thanks, can you think of any way to intergrate the login credentials provided to the login gui to build the vpn during login,
[19:36] <Base64-> Or better to do them seperately
[19:36] <bprompt> absk007:     what languages are you after with the editor?
[19:37] <jhutchins> Base64-: I'd do it seperately, it's simpler.   Last question... In my vpn network, ill have some servers (web etc), what do you think is the best way to prevent someone who hasnt ldap authenticated from accessing them? Kerbrous maybe? Or some kind of vlan switch post login?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> absk007  I understand you're a developer ... there's also #ubuntu-app-devel, i'm sure they can help better
[19:43] <absk007> bprompt, i've DDR3 2GB RAM
[19:44] <absk007> but a meagre 1GHz CPU
[19:44] <bprompt> absk007:     geany is very light.. .but Kate is superior IMO, bluefish is slow and lame
[19:45] <absk007> bprompt, Kate will need more libs coz i'm on lubuntu
[19:46] <bprompt> absk007:     well... are you on a 4gbs hdd?    with hdd space these days.. it not like you'll be running out of space anytime soon anyway
[19:46] <absk007> bprompt, installing geany. Lemme try both Bluefish & Geany. Lemme see which one starts quickly
[19:46] <absk007> bprompt, i'm on 7.42GB thumb drive.
[19:47] <absk007> my 320GB hdd crashed running Win7 Ult.
[19:47] <OerHeks> 7.42 GB is not much for "development"
[19:47] <bprompt> absk007:     bluefish is rather slow... geany fares better between the two
[19:48] <bprompt> heheh, agree there =)
[19:48] <absk007> OerHeks, i've WebStorm installed.
[19:49] <absk007> but due to it's slow startup, i need a faster alternative.
[19:50] <bprompt> sounds like you need a new SSD, even with 2gbs ram... an SSD would run spiffy and you can run something like Aptana Studio or Komodo Edit
[19:50] <absk007> ah! geany is fast
[19:50] <absk007> like leafpad
[19:50] <absk007> bprompt, 1st i need my 320GB primary HDD replaced.
[19:52] <bprompt> absk007:    http://www.barryvan.com.au/2009/01/geany-ide-tango-dark-colour-scheme/   <---
[19:53] <absk007> bprompt, any quick config. to make geany way much faster?
[19:53] <bprompt> absk007:    http://www.geany.org/Download/Extras   <-- a few other themes there too... I use the dark and the vibrant
[19:53] <quantibility> does anyone know the wounderful application JACK?
[19:53] <mikeg3> !autologin
[19:53] <EL3PHANTEN> Hi
[19:54] <Pici> quantibility: I know of it.  The folks in #ubuntustudio are probably more versed on troubleshooting it though.
[19:54] <bprompt> absk007:   not much really, you can get into Edit > preferences... is very configurable... but runs well optimized right out of the box
[19:54] <absk007> bprompt, i <3 monokai like themes.
[19:55] <EL3PHANTEN> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb, but I still want windows to be there. But on installation screen, I get no option to install together with windows. Help
[19:55] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Partitioning ? UEFI ? MBR ? .
[19:56] <bprompt> absk007:   http://geanycolourscheme.xtreemhost.com/filetypes/  <--- you can make your own theme, for whatever filetype, if you wish
[19:56] <EL3PHANTEN> It was UEFI but I turned legacy support option on on BIOS
[19:56] <EL3PHANTEN> I have had Ubuntu installed on before
[19:57] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Then we looking at ( MBR, bios) .. maybe then the 4 primary partition limit is in effect ?
[19:57] <EL3PHANTEN> But that time, my win8 wouldnt work.. Now I have one big partition with win7 on
[19:57] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[19:58] <EL3PHANTEN> Is there any way to fix that?
[19:58] <relish> Hello. When I do an apt-get update, I get  Method http has died unexpectedly! Sub-process http received a segmentation fault.
[19:59] <relish> How do I debug this?
[19:59] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: is thera a way to fix that. I could mention that the win7 installation was made to day, so I am willing to format the whole thing and start over
[20:01] <EL3PHANTEN> anyone?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Well, need to verify what you are working with partition wise, do you have 'buntu liveUSB handy ?/ installer should see Windows, and make the adjustements. Need to look to see why not.
[20:02] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:   usually... the way I've done it is... install ubuntu from the usb.... do a manual partitioning of the hdd, and pick the "/" partition and then make my "swap" partition, and just install, once booted into ubuntu... you can do an "update-grub" and that will include the win64 partition
[20:03] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt: Do you also only see one large free space at partition screen?
[20:03] <EL3PHANTEN> even if windows is installed
[20:04] <pluma> I can't get my Liliput USB display working on my laptop (using Intel HD graphics). I'm using stock Ubuntu 14.04. I tried blacklisting udl (someone suggested that on AskUbuntu) and I was able to reboot and have only the usb screen enabled, but then the built-in screen wouldn't show up.
[20:04] <EL3PHANTEN> Bshing-om: I made the bootable usb from ubuntu.com. There was this software on the site. Then I downloaded torrent 14.04.1
[20:05] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:   nope, it shows the win64 partition too... as ntfs and that there's used space, but as Bashing-om suggested.. is better to verify what you have partitions wise... from a liveUSB  run ->   sudo parted -l  <-- to see what's there and if it's MBR or GPT
[20:05] <relish> I did an strace apt-get update, in case anyone cares here is the crash log: http://www.hpcforge.org/log.txt
[20:06] <EL3PHANTEN> bpompt, Okey you say I shall choose try ubuntu?
[20:06] <EL3PHANTEN> and do those commands
[20:08] <daskdt> Anyone here know a way to delete all facebook activity
[20:08] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:  yeap
[20:08] <daskdt> no scripts i find work :/
[20:08] <jhutchins> daskdt: Nope.
[20:08] <jhutchins> daskdt: Not designed to make that possible.
[20:09] <daskdt> it used to be
[20:09] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Bashing-om: okey thank you, I will do. I will be right back when I'm there
[20:09] <relish> http://deletefacebook.com/
[20:09] <absk007> bprompt, how to choose theme. I've installed monokai.conf
[20:10] <daskdt> relish:  thanks, i was hoping to erase everything before
[20:10] <daskdt> using the delete
[20:10] <bprompt> absk007:      what was in the monokai.conf?    did it have a colorschemes, filedefs folders?
[20:11] <daskdt> reboot brb
[20:11] <absk007> bprompt, nope. it's a file. Got from https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-themes
[20:12] <jjido> hello I am trying to start a VPN connection. Is this a good place to ask? vpnc stops on packet_1 with no response from target
[20:12] <daskdt> back
[20:12] <daskdt> So maddening that facebook makes it so hard to remove your content
[20:13] <relish> is there a safe way to reinstall apt
[20:14] <bprompt> absk007:     those may not work for your geany version.. notice the versioning on it
[20:15] <absk007> i've 1.x How to update to latest?
[20:15] <ciscoftw> i having a problem with swap.... my fs is enctyped too, does that in itself break swap?
[20:15] <absk007> bprompt, those themes are compatible
[20:16] <absk007> i've 1.23.1
[20:16] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, excuse me. Can you type the sudo command again. I am on usbLive now
[20:17] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:    sudo parted -l;
[20:17] <EL3PHANTEN> thank you
[20:18] <bprompt> absk007:     then.....  you can try giving it to ~/.config/geany    and maybe replace the geany.conf there with that
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Warning: /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> yes/no_
[20:19] <bprompt> hmm.... that looks a bit odd.... sounds like a gpt hdd
[20:19] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey shall I just press yes and hope for the best _ >(
[20:20] <croepha> is there a log for this channel?
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> !log
[20:21] <EL3PHANTEN> I meant smiley. english layout
[20:21] <croepha> thanks
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Model: ATA ST1000LM014-SSHD (scsi)
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Disk /dev/sdb: 1000GB
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Partition Table: gpt
[20:22] <koell> I just connected a 2nd external monitor to my thinkpad r52. sadly only 1 of them works at the same time. whats going on?
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> I typed yes
[20:22] <aliteralmind> Any idea what user postgres does not have permission to directory dbbackup?
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ groups postgres
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres : postgres ssl-cert db
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ ls -l
[20:23] <aliteralmind> drwxrwx--- 2 jeffy db    4096 Aug 11 16:11 dbbackup
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ cd dbbackup/
[20:23] <aliteralmind> -su: cd: dbbackup/: Permission denied
[20:23] <aliteralmind> (Sorry, will dpaste that next time.)
[20:24] <pbx> any gnome-do users know how to increase the size of the font in the UI?
[20:24] <absk007> bprompt, got it working.
[20:27] <bprompt> absk007:     I use dark and vibrant ones.. as well as the default =)
[20:28] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Might behoove us at this point to look at that hard drive with the GOT tools ..-> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l .dev.sda <- is what I think.
[20:28] <absk007> bprompt, i luv monokai in all programming text editors
[20:28] <Bashing-om> GOT/GPT*
[20:28] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, I will try that
[20:29] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Typo again ! -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda <- .
[20:29] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om,  okey ty
[20:29] <bprompt> absk007:    to be fair... dark or vibrant aren't a lot different from monokai's =)
[20:30] <Bashing-om> !pastbinit | el3
[20:30] <absk007> bprompt, yep. :)
[20:30] <absk007> bprompt, thanks btw
[20:30] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, not sdb
[20:30] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | el3
[20:31] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: ^^
[20:31] <EL3PHANTEN> ubottu, okey thank you
[20:31] <EL3PHANTEN> again more intelligent than me
[20:32] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: If more than 1 hard drive, yeah, bed to look, and match. IF primary is GPT best that ALL hard drives are GPT // saves a LOT of confusion at some later time.
[20:32] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, okey I beleave it was suppose to be sdb
[20:33] <EL3PHANTEN> I have only one. sda is usb
[20:33] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, wait I will upload the multi-line text
[20:34] <hosler> i like ubuntu
[20:35] <quantibility> yeah i like xubuntu
[20:35] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: OK, then look at it as /dev/sdb .. let's see what is -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb | pastebinit <-. pass the resulting URL back to us.
[20:35] <hosler> i like cornbread too
[20:36] <quantibility> those commands are just like the cool trick i learned about curl
[20:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020392/ this was on the first and second commands
[20:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, Should I answer yes or no_
[20:37] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Lookin at your /8020392/.
[20:37] <Artemis3> someone should update the mini iso web page, it has the wrong checksums (against current MD5SUMS anyway)
[20:39] <ice9> why does Ubuntu make a lot of modifications on upstream software?
[20:39] <Artemis3> ah nvm
[20:40] <Artemis3> was looking at sha1 -_-
[20:40] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, sorry the terminal outputted something danish. Hopefully you know what it is
[20:41] <quantibility> lol
[20:41] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: ?/ confused. "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb" the 'l' option for 'list' // where is the "list" why is it going into a write mode ? is there no data on the hard drive ?
[20:41] <Artemis3> ice9, i can say they do that to the kernel because, they kept 3.13 and keep backporting changes, the rest i doubt they change much (its done by debian packagers anyway)
[20:41] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:41] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, there is win7 64bit
[20:42] <ice9> Artemis3: expunge I'm talking about 3rd party apps like Apache, "sitesavailable"etc..
[20:42] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:42] <Artemis3> ice9, probably the answer lies somewhere in launchpad (description of changes)
[20:43] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: run only -> sudp gdisk -l /dev/sdb <- and I hope to see that listing of possible partitions on that hard disk, else I do not know.
[20:43] <ice9> expunge: it's not a must that a distro force apps to do user's conf in a certain way!
[20:43] <pitwalker> yeah, the source of text disappearing the wrong "nouveau" kernel driver, wrong for an old NVIDIA card.
[20:44] <Artemis3> ice9, many distros modify the software, its part of the freedoms of free software ice9
[20:44] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, so I shall not choose any option now on what to use. right?
[20:45] <skr> did anyone here managed to get kvm vga passthrough working?
[20:45] <ice9> Artemis3:  okay so what's the wisdom of Ubuntu to do it with the current way? that was my initial question
[20:45] <jhutchins> ice9: There's nothing that prevents you from doing a monolithic configuration for apache.
[20:45] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:45] <ice9> expunge: seems not, please explain to me the point of a distro
[20:45] <Artemis3> ice9, as i said, the answer probably lies somewhere in the package description of changes within launchpad, or ask the package maintainer
[20:46] <jhutchins> ice9: As someone who manages a multi-site server, being able to easily toggle sites on and off is handy for me.
[20:46] <Bashing-om> electricprism: My primry hard drive output of gdisk as an example of what I expect to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020460/ .
[20:46] <expunge> ice9: the point of a distro is to provide software in a particular way you can't simply get on your own
[20:47] <Bashing-om> electricprism: Sorry bot that .. EL3PHANTEN ^^ .
[20:47] <ice9> expunge: right so?
[20:47] <jhutchins> ice9: Did you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:48] <ice9> jhutchins: what do you mean?
[20:48] <Artemis3> ice9, different distros have different policies, that simple.
[20:48] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020482/
[20:49] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: look'n at your m/8020482/.
[20:51] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: I do not have a clue as to what is on that hard disk .. I do not know what to advise in this instance. I expect something like my : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020460/ .
[20:52] <Loshki> expunge: and please explain to me the point of having literally hundreds of distros (see e.g. distrowatch)
[20:52] <expunge> Loshki: people like different things
[20:53] <Pumpkin-> and egos, never underestimate the power of egos
[20:53] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: Okey, but assuming that I dont care if I loose all data, and start all over. Should I try tochoose GPT or MBR. whats better
[20:53] <styx_> hi! is there something like: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/eglibc/ for ubuntu packages?
[20:54] <expunge> styx_: what aspect, the snapshot?
[20:55] <styx_> I would like all eglibc packages which has been released
[20:55] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: And if so, shall I try to install ubuntu first then win7 next time.
[20:55] <styx_> not just the newest one
[20:56] <expunge> all?
[20:56] <EL3PHANTEN> If I have to format that is
[20:56] <styx_> expunge: all or just a lot
[20:56] <mikeg3-2> Hi.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and I am being autologged in constantly even though I do not want to be.  I want to type a password to login.  I have tried to disable autologin via settings.  It does not work.
[20:57] <pbx> mikeg3-2, by "constantly" you mean whenever you boot?
[20:57] <expunge> mikeg3-2: egrep -ir auto /etc/*lightd*
[20:57] <mikeg3-2> yes whenever I boot
[20:58] <mikeg3-2> have an interesting article here http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[20:58] <newbie|4> Hi, voidfire?
[20:58] <pbx> mikeg3-2, and the "User Accounts" settings for the user that's auto-logging-in shows "Automatic Login Off"?
[20:59] <mikeg3-2> pbx, yes autologin is off
[21:00] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: EFI is by far better// but right now mostly not understood by many of us // IF you choose to (RE-)install. best/easiest if Windows is installed 1st  ( from old MBR partitioning knowledge). See then if ubuntu's installer - in UEFI mode - sees Windows and will " install along side".
[21:00] <styx_> expunge: you know something like this?
[21:01] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: Okey. I beleave I just got rid of windows. I chose GPT, and it says -> Total free space is<PHONE_NUMBER> sectors (931.5 GiB)
[21:02] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Looks correct to me ( housekeeping takes 5% of the hard drive for system use) .
[21:03] <mikeg3-2> I am thinking I need to edit /etc/group
[21:06] <victorbjelkholm_> Hey! I recently added "xmodmap ~/speedswapper" to swap some keys in my ~/.profile file. Now I see "xmodmap:  please release the following keys within 2 seconds" every time I open up a new shell... Anyone know how to get rid of the message?
[21:06] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: okey I will try to reboot, if win7 is still there, I will try ubuntu installer.. cya and thank you for you patience.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Good. fingers crossed // We ( al of us ) are here to help get ya up on 'buntu.
[21:10] <Pici> di/70
[21:15] <jim3> hello, i have ubuntu 14.04 with gnome installed,but i messed my de so i had to reinstall gnome again...so everytime i boot up i have to set my de to gnome..is there any way that when i boot up i will be at gnome?
[21:16] <apollon> hello
[21:17] <apollon> Hat jemand vielleicht eine Sekunde und kann mir dabei helfen etwas zu installieren ? Bin ganz neu in Ubuntu/Linux
[21:17] <Pici> !de | apollon
[21:17] <Beldar> jim3, The gnome shell or the fallback?
[21:17] <apollon> ty
[21:17] <jim3> the gnome shell beldar
[21:18] <Beldar> jim3, If you are using the autologin, logout than in and it will default to the shell./
[21:19] <jim3> i dont use the autologin beldar
[21:22] <Beldar> jim3Than choose the shell when you login in. Is it you want it to say gnome in that login drop down every time? I tink it defaults to what the original install was.
[21:22] <Beldar> think*
[21:23] <joe--> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS to a netbook.  I installed it via NetInstall with unetbootin.  Problem is it seems like everything was installed to the hard disk, but without having my USB stick plugged in it wont boot into the OS
[21:23] <joe--> I'm wondering if the boot information somehow got stuck on the USB stick?
[21:23] <Beldar> joe--, run sudo parted -l from the install and pastbin it, I will give you the command to fix this.
[21:24] <Beldar> pastebin*
[21:25] <joe--> paste.ubuntu.com/8020742
[21:25] <joe--> thank you..
[21:27] <Beldar> joe--, Remove the usb and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda than sudo update-grub
[21:28] <Beldar> joe--, On occasion with a usb boot the drives get reversed so grub goes to the usb is all.
[21:28] <Beldar> the mbr that is.
[21:29] <joe--> Got a warning about Sector 33 in use by the program "FlexNet"..
[21:29] <joe--> is that fairly normal?
[21:30] <joe--> Beldar: worked, and I was able to boot back into ubuntu without the usb stick thank you again
[21:30] <Beldar> joe--, Ah the yee old flexnet, use this app to fix that, just the basic repair first gui. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:31] <Beldar> joe--, Ah cool that was fixed awhile back.
[21:31] <joe--> it sucessfully booted, should I still do the boot repair thing or?
[21:35] <hey_joe> I would like to invite everyone to a Beta Shell Account site: https://shellicio.us
[21:35] <hey_joe> Registration is free, instant, and online.  Let us know what you think!
[21:35] <Pricey> hey_joe: Spam sucks.
[21:35] <hey_joe> spam?
[21:35] <hey_joe> i love spam.
[21:35] <Pricey> hey_joe: Also, do you have any offline shells?
[21:36] <hey_joe> offline shells?
[21:36] <rww> lol
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: Yep.
[21:36] <hey_joe> I am not quite sure what you mean.
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: As in, ones that aren't online.
[21:36] <rww> Pricey: i know someone who sells sea shells on the sea shore
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: I would pay for that.
[21:36] <rww> Pricey: the shells that she sells are offline shells i'm sure
[21:37] <hey_joe> Pricey: I do have offline shells.
[21:37] <hey_joe> Pricey: $50/mnth just for you.
[21:37] <Pricey> hey_joe: Anyway, please don't spam :)
[21:37] <hey_joe> I didn't spam.
[21:37] <rww> Yes you did.
[21:37] <hey_joe> I did?
[21:37] <rww> Yep.
[21:37] <hey_joe> Cause I invited a channel to use a service I just finished setting up?
[21:37] <Sverdar> unsolicited invitations are spammy as hell, but tks anyway :P
[21:38] <hey_joe> I didn't violate any channel rules.
[21:38] <rww> Yes you did.
[21:38] <hey_joe> Where?
[21:38] <Mast> Ok. Basic question. Anyone had a problem with ubuntu hanging during the install? I've tried 4 difference computers and it does the same thing.
[21:38] <rww> !ot
[21:38] <rww> and don't spam it there either, kthx
[21:38] <hey_joe> didn't violate any rules.
[21:38] <hey_joe> we've wasted more time and screen real estate chatting about it.
[21:38] <hey_joe> trolls.
[21:39] <expunge> =)
[21:39] <agliodbs> on server 14.04, somehow it came up with eth0 configured to the wrong network.  I've switched to using eth1, but the default setup for eth1 doesn't include a gateway address via dhcp.  What's the easiest way to get eth1 configured correctly?
[21:39] <hey_joe> ah well.
[21:39] <expunge> some things are worth destroying
[21:39] <hey_joe> later folks.
[21:39] <expunge> joinspam is one of those things
[21:39] <Mast> I get a great deal of OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[21:39] <rww> anyways, back to on-topic support stufff
[21:39] <agliodbs> I'm getting a bit lost in the maze of command-line network config tools.
[21:40] <_unreal_> ok quick question, I'm about to download and install the latest LTS iso. I have an Athlon x64 3400, with 3gb ram, and 38TB of storage. the computer has an ATI X1050 video card and gig ethernet. I'm planning on using this tower to be a media server for my home network serving video and music data to any capable streaminmg media device I have. I'm wondering what LTS version I should get.
[21:40] <Sverdar> agliodbs: maybe this one helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[21:40] <expunge> _unreal_: just get the latest ubuntu version
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Mast: " No space left on device" look and see whay -> df -h df -i <- for starters.
[21:41] <expunge> LTS is for people who irrationally avoid updating
[21:41] <_unreal_> this computer may MAY also be used for some low end steam games rarlly
[21:41] <Mast> I did these, and I get reports of 2% usage
[21:41] <Mast> The only reason I can think is that its a bad drive, but S.m.a.r.t status says its "good"
[21:41] <agliodbs> Sverdar: right, once the file is configured correctly, what command do I run to reconfigure the network?
[21:41] <expunge> Mast: smart is irrelevant, as you can see
[21:42] <Mast> I can't see really, but I understand what you mean
[21:42] <_unreal_> export, I planning on having this be mostly a closet computer. mostly in suspend state or OFF. the media that is streamed may need to be transcoded on the fly
[21:42] <agliodbs> the /etc/init.d/networking apparently does nothing
[21:42] <_unreal_> to xbox360 and PS, or the blueray
[21:42] <agliodbs> it's really seeming like I can't actually make any runtime network changes on 14.04.  Everything I do seems to be overridden by some other ubuntu utility.
[21:42] <Mast> Maybe a better question, would be what could the common causes for such a problem as mine?
[21:42] <Sverdar> agliodbs: ifconfig eth1 down && ifconfig eth1 up
[21:43] <Sverdar> and sould be working
[21:43] <Sverdar> *should
[21:43] <_unreal_> or ifup eth1
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Mattickbot: "common causes for such a problem as mine: /boot partition full -> df -h to see.
[21:45] <agliodbs> Sverdar: I'm still not picking up the gateway address from dchp
[21:45] <agliodbs> Sverdar: even though my 12.04 laptop has no issue doing so
[21:45] <_unreal_> what I'm trying to figure out is if I should download ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[21:46] <k1l> _unreal_: is that system gpoing to act as a server?
[21:46] <_unreal_> yes its going to be a pure media/DATA server for streaming content
[21:47] <Sverdar> agliodbs: try to configure it manually and see if it works. DHCP should get that automatically. If not I would think DHCP server is bad configurated but you used it before... so let's try manual stuff :P
[21:47] <k1l> so go with the server install.
[21:48] <_unreal_> is there really any major difference between server and desktop or is it just a collection of server friendly options and same for desktop
[21:48] <agliodbs> Sverdar: resolve.conf gets overwritten by some utility whenever I reload the ifconfig
[21:48] <_unreal_> preloaded
[21:48] <expunge> _unreal_: if you're going to play a game on it, get desktop
[21:48] <k1l> you could install a desktop afterwards. but keep in mind that servers dont have desktops to reduce the system load to a minimum
[21:48] <expunge> _unreal_: it's just what's preloaded
[21:48] <k1l> _unreal_: the base is the same. the desktop installs have all the desktop stuff preinstalled.
[21:49] <_unreal_> I'll still use the gui now and thenb
[21:49] <_unreal_> then
[21:49] <linuxuz3r> hi
[21:49] <_unreal_> ease of use and management
[21:49] <linuxuz3r> what is an rsa key
[21:49] <k1l> so its not a server if you use the desktop.
[21:50] <PastorWade> Anyone know how to get a lenovo h535 to boot up ubuntu?  It's installed but giving a 1962 error
[21:50] <agliodbs> Sverdar: I added a gateway to /etc/network/interfaces,but ubuntu still isn't picking it up
[21:50] <_unreal_> ok so desktop would be the better choice and I'll just remove the calls for starting desktop automaticly
[21:50] <k1l> !text | _unreal_
[21:50] <agliodbs> Sverdar: it really seems like ubuntu is using some set of network configuration files other than /etc/network
[21:52] <_unreal_> because its going to be running as a server 99% of the time. once its fullly up and running most anything and every thing I do to the system will be remote management via SSH or maybe even HTML
[21:52] <expunge> _unreal_: if you just boot a desktop system and it's running server stuff with just a login screen up, the "load" of the desktop will be next to nothing
[21:52] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: I just installed Ubuntu :D up and running, devided the 1tb into 500/2. Anyways, turns out I lost Windows. Anyways I suppose it will be easy to install win7 on the remaining 500gb.
[21:52] <Sverdar> agliodbs: yeah, maybe your network-manager is doing that. But I can't help you on that, I don't have Unity or something like that in my Ubuntu.
[21:52] <agliodbs> Sverdar: it's 14.04 server.  no network-manager
[21:52] <k1l> _unreal_: real server tasks are meant to be managed through ssh or configs in the first place.
[21:53] <agliodbs> given that /etc/init.d/networking is useless, is there some way to force ubuntu to reload all networks from scratch, other than a full reboot of the system?
[21:53] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, you typically want to load windows first then install linux. if you lost your windows then the choices made for partitioning where not ideal and there for removed the windows install
[21:53] <expunge> EL3PHANTEN: yes it'll be easy
[21:54] <theborger> hello users.  how can i remove the motd message that comes up when i log in via SSH?
[21:54] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: I know, I just couldnt get it to work. So I tried something
[21:54] <Sverdar> agliodbs: ooh me too, and I'm not having that issue at all. I've changed that yesterday actually.
[21:54] <theborger> i don't need the documentation etc to show
[21:54] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Lost Windows ? is it installed ? .. from ubuntu terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- see if Windows is not picked up by grub.
[21:54] <theborger> google is not showing much info
[21:55] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, typically it will ask during the install if you would like to preserve your windows instilation. I'm asujming you chose to use entire disk for partitioning rather then use unused space on the drive
[21:55] <Sverdar> agliodbs: try sudo service network-manager restart
[21:55] <agliodbs> no such service
[21:55] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, he mentioned changing his partitions around. I believe he wiped every thing
[21:56] <Beldar> _unreal_, Stop assuming and ask for proof of what's on the HD.
[21:56] <EL3PHANTEN> Whats the ubuntu paste link again ubott?
 Bashing-om: I just installed Ubuntu :D up and running, devided the 1tb into 500/2.
[21:56] <_unreal_> Beldar,
[21:56] <agliodbs> Someone seems to have designed this so that you can't make changes to the network without rebooting the machine.
[21:56] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, pastebin sudo parted-l run in ubuntu
[21:57] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: I was hoping other wise, earlier He had advises was going to (RE-)install Windows, and try once more to install ubuntu.
[21:57] <theborger> anyone??
[21:58] <DJJeff> checking for arm-linux-gcc... no
[21:58] <DJJeff> checking for gcc... gcc
[21:58] <DJJeff> can not find arm-linux-gcc in apt-file search
[21:58] <Beldar> theborger, Keep you inquiries in one post, anyone no comments, make it concise and connected.
[21:59] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, so your just looking for preserving windows and producing a dualboot system. wipe the system, load windows. then start the linux install it will ask how you'd like to modify your HD, you want to use remaining HD space or adjust as needed. it should walk you threw it.
[21:59] <costa71> ciao
[21:59] <theborger> hello users.  how can i remove the motd message that comes up when i log in via SSH? it shows the documentation, and stats etc. how do i remove this?
[21:59] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021007/
[21:59] <OerHeks> DJJeff, what tutorial says it is in ubuntu repo's ?
[21:59] <costa71> !addon
[22:00] <Beldar> mmm UEFI
[22:00] <Beldar> costa71, State the issue please.
[22:00] <EL3PHANTEN> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021010/
[22:00] <OerHeks> !info gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
[22:00] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: Yepper, was hopping for that outcome with EL3PHANTEN ( seems he hosed up the partition table GPT/MBR and lost the Windows partition).
[22:01] <andrej> I have a bunch of machines sitting on private network (no route to the outside). They receive updates via apt-cacher-ng, which works fine for most things. What doesn't work is things from PPA; I'd like to be able to update PPA packages, but it keeps telling me BADSIG, even though I manually installed the correct key, and verified w/ "apt-key finger" that it's present.
[22:01] <andrej> Is aptitude trying to verify the key against the server?
[22:01] <k1l> theborger: make the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d not executable
[22:02] <Viking667> hi all. I've just installed a Sapphire R9 270 into the wife's machine, running 64-bit 14.04.
[22:02] <Viking667> I did have a ASUS R7 240.
[22:02] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Nope no see a Windows entry // Beldar's advise applies .
[22:02] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Do you have the windows install media?
[22:02] <Viking667> now I'm not seeing a /dev/dri and I'm wondering what I missed.
[22:03] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: You mean like a win7 usb? then yes. I will try it in school tomorrow
[22:03] <Viking667> do I just run a dpkg-reconfigure on amdcccle?
[22:03] <EL3PHANTEN> On the remaining 500gb
[22:03] <agliodbs> wow, ubuntu 14.04 server is a disaster.  time to switch to debian
[22:03] <agliodbs> later
[22:04] <_unreal_> agliodbs?
[22:04] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Cool, be aware you seem to still have a gpt partiton table, this is an issue you need to understand is all.
[22:04] <k1l> theborger: or better try dpkg-reconfigure landscape-comon
[22:04] <_unreal_> hehehe I'm switching my server grade tower from debian to ubuntu because its got old hardware in it and does not seem to have a high level of support natively
[22:05] <expunge> _unreal_: wha?
[22:06] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: okey. That mean I cannot just boot from win7 usb and install on the unallocated space?
[22:06] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Seems to be a uefi/efi bios as well, the info on a windows forst is good as it makes it an easier fix if needed is all.
[22:06] <_unreal_> expunge, I've had nothing but issues getting any thing working. networking is still not working on that computer and other issues, err WIFI, my video card is not fully working YET every thing works hunky dorry on ubuntu.
[22:06] <Beldar> first*
[22:06] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, correct
[22:07] <expunge> _unreal_: what version of Debian?
[22:07] <_unreal_> 7.6
[22:07] <EL3PHANTEN> Crap. then I start all over tomorrow
[22:07] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I would ask in ##windows on the uefi gpt install.
[22:07] <Beldar> for W7
[22:07] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, whats what I said before you'll have an easyer time just starting from scratch.
[22:08] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, This is what happens when you just try something rather than being sure is all. ;)
[22:08] <expunge> _unreal_: so you were comparing Debian stable with Ubuntu (which is sourced from Debian unstable)
[22:08] <expunge> just FYI
[22:08] <Beldar> and no backups or images/clones EL3PHANTEN
[22:08] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: Okey when all formatted, like earlier today. 1. I install windows on the 1000gb drive. ? right
[22:09] <_unreal_> yes just install like its a single install, the windows that is
[22:09] <_unreal_> after that dont worry about getting drivers and all the other stuff on it just get it installed to a point where you can stop.
[22:10] <_unreal_> THEN put your ubuntu disk in, and start the install. the main thing your looking for is presesrving your windows installation. there are walk threws look on google. theyw ill show you what to do for a DUAL boot. now the install process should ask if you want to have a dual boot system.
[22:11] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: okey. Then I can choose in BIOS. UEFI "for win8". or legacy support "for other OS"... Should I choose any particular?
[22:11] <_unreal_> uefi is for booting from thumb drives
[22:12] <_unreal_> what is your source? for your windows and linux? cd/dvd's? or usb drives?
[22:12] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: usb both
[22:12] <bekks> uefi is not for booting from thumb drives, it is a replacement for the acient BIOS booting method.
[22:12]  * Beldar loves questionable instructions with no reference to the importance of images/clones
[22:12] <_unreal_> isnt that an oxymoron? its a replacement for the BOOTING method LOL
[22:13] <Viking667> hm. I still can't see any /dev/dri, even though I've reconfigured fglrx-amdcccle-updates and fglrx-updates.
[22:13] <Viking667> so. Where to from here?
[22:13] <_unreal_> Viking667, i've been having ati issues as well
[22:13] <k1l> _unreal_: please dont advice into the blue in here. some users come in here beeing frustrated and tend to trust the supporters.
[22:13] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Install windows make sure it works, use it's disk manager to make a unallocated if not there, and clone that windows install.
[22:14] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: I tried today, but didnt seeem to get the option to choose together with win, in ubuntu installation. only an empty partition table.
[22:15] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You had a partition table no partitions is what you mean.
[22:15] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: is that the resize C: partition in windows?
[22:15] <_unreal_> I cant help on the exact info for the dual boot blaa blaa blaa. its been to long
[22:16] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: on ubuntu installation, I saw only 1000gb free space
[22:16] <EL3PHANTEN> Even if win7 worked
[22:16] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Most likely yes, however this is if you have just the windows boot partition and the C partition. You can do a manual windows install to specific partition sizes, leaving an unallocated space.
[22:17] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: it's okey. I guess I will be back here tomorrow, when I do this.
[22:17] <Viking667> feels like a 900 horsepower engine with a pair of pedals.
[22:17] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, if the only thing you viewed was an empty drive during the linux install. I'm going on a hunch that the worng HD partition option may have been chosen.
[22:17] <Viking667> sigh.
 Beldar: on ubuntu installation, I saw only 1000gb free space. This is because it is uefi and gpt, you have to have the unallocated to install ubuntu to
[22:17] <_unreal_> Viking667, "redbull"?
[22:18] <Beldar> Viking667, Keep your comments to the inquiry the extra off topic stuff confuses your issues, and spams the channel.
[22:18] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: I tried making allocated partition in windows. But it still didnt show up
[22:19] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You can't build a linux partiton in windows.
[22:19] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You want unallocated.
[22:19] <Viking667> Beldar: I was actually referring to the new video card I'd installed, which seems to be supported by the fglrx driver, but the kernel doesn't allocate a /dev/dri
[22:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: yes, but during installation, it still showed 1000gb free space
[22:20] <Beldar> Viking667, cool just keep it concise and relevant to our inquiry so we can help is all. ;)
[22:20] <EL3PHANTEN> after I made unallocated in windows
[22:20] <Beldar> your*
[22:21] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Chances are you had not made an actual unallocated, you were there we were not, it's a guess at this point from our end, no proof available.
[22:21] <Viking667> Beldar: cool. Ubuntu 14.04, 64-bit. With R7-240 ASUS card, DRI works. With Sapphire R9-270X, it doesn't seem to work.
[22:22] <Beldar> Viking667, Thanks outside my knowledge area is all, just making sure you get help. ;)
[22:22] <Viking667> the fglrx modprobes, so I'm wondering what I missed. I ran dpkg-reconfigure fglrx-updates, which gave me some updated DKMS modules, I guess.
[22:22] <Viking667> I'm wondering where to go from here.
[22:23] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I think since you have till tomorrow you might do some research on the web and ##windows on uefi install and dual boots with ubuntu. Ubuntu has wiki's on both.
[22:23] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: maybe. But on windows, I chose to resize C: .. after that the remaining 470gb went unallocate on my screen.. Anyways, the only way now is to start over. _unreal_ mentioned something about wrong HD setting
[22:24] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: Yes
[22:24] <EL3PHANTEN> sry HD option
[22:25] <_unreal_> I stated that the worng HD partitioning option may have been chosen during the linux install there for giving the impression of an empty HD
[22:25] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Note _unreal_ was asked by the mods to not just advise "into the blue", meaning be exact and accurate
[22:25] <Beldar> we all want to help, it can be a challenge knowing how and when to stop
[22:26] <Mast> Okay, so how do I go about creating a persistent bootable USB of ubuntu from within Windows 7? is unebootin okay for this?
[22:26] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: I was aware of that
[22:27] <Beldar> Mast, Unetbootin has this option yes.
[22:27] <Mast> Because I've tried linuxliveusb for this, and I'm unable to make the installation persistent
[22:28] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Cool, itis just that you need to do some research, asking here or the IRC can just make yo more confused if you are kinda there already and not just at the install phase. Where we can deal with what is happening in real time.
[22:29] <Beldar> Mast, I would be surprised if linuxliveusb does not have a persistant option.
[22:30] <Mast> So far as I can tell, it does, but I'm unable to specificy persistency size
[22:30] <Mast> from within the program
[22:30] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: Tru. Thanks. I am going to read about this. And come back if it still does not work.
[22:31] <Beldar> Mast, Preface the person you address with their nick. That installer is 3rd party so if you are lucky someone might know it here, if not you can just try another of the handful of usb loaders.
[22:32] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I would use ##windows for it's install and cloning and here for ubuntu .
[22:34] <fridaynext> does anyone here know about video cables? I need to run either displayport or hdmi over 30', and I want to carry 1440p.
[22:34] <fridaynext> I'd like as high a refresh rate as possible, as well.
[22:34] <Beldar> fridaynext, Exactly how far?
[22:34] <fridaynext> Beldar: 30'
[22:34] <Beldar> 2 miles 40 ft
[22:35] <Mast> I don't believe display port can handle over 1080p
[22:35] <Beldar> fridaynext, Just get a good cable that is an acceptable distance.
[22:36] <Mast> regular hdmi (1.4 stardard) will do up to 4k
[22:36] <Beldar> fridaynext, I have one off amazon of that exact distance works fine. IT is a high quality cable however.
[22:37] <fridaynext> Mast: will it do it at 60Hz over 30'?
[22:37] <Beldar> gold plated and blessed by the pope. ;)
[22:37] <fridaynext> Beldar: you're running 1440p?
[22:37] <Mast> Yes
[22:37] <Beldar> fridaynext, NOt using it now is all.
[22:37] <Footy> Beldar do you need 60hz?
[22:37] <Mast> So far as I know, it will do that up to 100 feet
[22:38] <Beldar> Footy, Not sure I have not looked at the samsung resolution info.
[22:38] <Mast> Up to 120Hz I to my understanding
[22:38] <fridaynext> Here's the cable I bought http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AJHCS40/
[22:39] <Footy> most peoples eyes are unable to see past 24
[22:39] <fridaynext> I'm running it in the wall, so I want to make sure I can use it with my Wii U, and with my gaming PC.
[22:39] <Footy> but yeah any decent 10m (30') cable from amazon will be fine
[22:39] <Beldar> Mast, Always preface with nicks here please, you can type a few letters of the user and hit the tab key to complete
[22:39] <Footy> if you want to spend a lot of money then you can but its mostly a waste on hdmi
[22:39] <kostkon> Footy, 24hz?
[22:39] <Mast> fridaynext You could have saved yourself a fair bit of money and bought a brandless one off of eBay, but that should do it.
[22:39] <Footy> kostkon yes
[22:40] <CodeGosu> is there a relible way to hibernate ubuntu?
[22:40] <fridaynext> Mast: since it's gonna be in the wall, I figured spending more up front was a safe bet.
[22:40] <Beldar> CodeGosu, What problems are you having?
[22:40] <fridaynext> And 'redmere' seems to be the beez kneez.
[22:40] <Mast> fridaynext I will agree with you there, actually.
[22:40] <kostkon> Footy, possibly, on tft/lcds. On crts on the other hand, 24hz would burn your eyes
[22:40] <Mast> fridaynext There should be no problem with this cable
[22:41] <fridaynext> Mast: excellent. Thanks so much.
[22:41] <Mast> fridaynext Although if youlook at this link it has many more positive reviews than the one you bought. http://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-High-Speed-Cable--wall/dp/B005LJQM3Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407796882&sr=1-2&keywords=30%27+hdmi
[22:42] <Footy> kostkon depends on the size but yes crt's in large sizes need a higher hz due to the way phosphor reacts
[22:42] <Beldar> CodeGosu, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/  If you have not enabled hibernate, you have to have a swap just slightly larger than your ram/memory amount is all.