[02:50] <Icabod> what is this channel
[02:50] <cafuego> Icabod: #ubuntu
[02:50] <jasoncohen> Harold, yes and apt-get autoclean just removes the old packages that have new versions available
[02:51] <Icabod> yes i know the channelname
[02:51] <Icabod> whats it for
[02:51] <Harold> nickrud, Yes, very.  I have a 2GB HD, and I'm a podcaster so I like to do audio editing, which takes up some space.
[02:51] <charles> is there a way to see which package a file belongs to?
[02:51] <cafuego> Icabod: Check the /topic
[02:51] <Amaranth> Icabod: The topic is useful.
[02:51] <Cin> hey, i need to exit x to install my new gfx card drivers.. what's the command to exit it?
[02:51] <nickrud> ah, ok
[02:51] <anders__> hehe hell no
[02:51] <jasoncohen> Harold, you realize you can get a 160 GB HD for about $50 on outpost?
[02:51] <Nevado> Cin, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:51] <Cin> thanks a lot
[02:51] <Harold> jasoncohen, I'm extremely broke.
[02:52] <jasoncohen> Cin, no- you don't usually
[02:52] <Harold> jasoncohen, I purchased this system at Goodwill for $60.
[02:52] <Cin> the nvidia driver installation asks me to
[02:52] <kapputu> hi, how do I uninstall unused packages
[02:52] <DonL> airbon: I think for Java I used the Wiki or some how-to on the Ubuntu website
[02:52] <Harold> jasoncohen, I've also added a Wi-Fi adapter, and some RAM.
[02:52] <jasoncohen> Cin, um, the nvidia drive installation is trivial
[02:52] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to use ssh on ubuntu
[02:52] <Harold> jasoncohen, I'm trying to hold off on any more purchased at the moment.
[02:52] <Cin> :\
[02:53] <charles>  I have a file / library installed on one of my boxes, however not on this one. Is there a way to see which package that library (or the file) belongs to?
[02:53] <jasoncohen> Cin, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[02:53] <jasoncohen> Cin, nvidia-settings is the graphical tool for the nvidia drivers. you dont' need it- it's purely optional
[02:53] <erisco> i know i should be under the apache channel for this, but i would like to know whether to get the tar.bz2 or the tar.gz php 5.1.0 BETA
[02:53] <Cin> aye
[02:53] <jasoncohen> so is the NVIDIA-Settings.desktop step
[02:53] <kapputu> anyone know how to get rid of unused packages?
[02:53] <Cin> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg1.run
[02:53] <Cin> it's that
[02:54] <jasoncohen> Cin, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:54] <erisco> (oh btw, how do you talk to ppl in private?)
[02:54] <Cin> i did that, but my drivers don't seem to be up to date because i've no 3d acceleration
[02:54] <jasoncohen> Cin, heh, what are you doing? ubuntu has the nvidia drivers packaged already
[02:54] <jasoncohen> you don't need to install the ones off nvidia's site
[02:54] <jasoncohen> Cin, copy this command into a terminal - "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:55] <Cin> oki
[02:55] <jasoncohen> Cin, then ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[02:55] <airbon> hello
[02:55] <erisco> could anyone tell me which php 5.1.0 BETA download is the best? tar.bz2 or tar.gz??
[02:55] <eyequeue> kapputu:  sudo dpkg --purge foo
[02:55] <airbon> anyone know how to install jav
[02:55] <anders__> thos some one use a antivirus and which one??
[02:55] <airbon> java
[02:55] <DonL> airbon, did you not see my reply above?
[02:55] <jasoncohen> erisco, doesn't really matter if you have broadband. bz2 uses better compression
[02:56] <nickrud> !java
[02:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[02:56] <erisco> does it? okay i will download that one
[02:56] <cafuego> erisco: Why can you just apt-get install php4?
[02:56] <jasoncohen> !nvidia
[02:56] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:56] <cafuego> can't
[02:56] <redtech_> ok this sucks.  I jsut got my wife up and going on ubuntu when all of a sudden it "locks".  After a series of trying to login tty2 and 3 (i believe that the correct term), I restart.  I receive the following..  EXT3-fs: error loading journal
[02:56] <DonL> thanks, ubuto
[02:56] <bramker> hello everybody
[02:57] <erisco> huh? sorry new to the terminal
[02:57] <anders__> hi
[02:57] <erisco> what if i wanted php5?
[02:57] <erisco> isn't it better to keep updated?
[02:57] <jasoncohen> erisco, is there any reason you need php5?
[02:57] <erisco> i need php...
[02:57] <cafuego> erisco: Judging from previous questions you've asked, you will be in for PAIN and wreck your system.
[02:57] <bimberi> charles: There's a search contents facility on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <andy__> How can i 'link' the /mnt/music directory to localhost/music, with apache?
[02:57] <cafuego> erisco: just use the precompiled prepackaged php4. it works absolutely fine.
[02:57] <erisco> really?
[02:58] <erisco> okay okay
[02:58] <erisco> i know i am new
[02:58] <jasoncohen> erisco, then just install php4...they'll just work
[02:58] <erisco> thats why i am here asking stuff
[02:58] <cafuego> erisco: good :-)
[02:58] <erisco> so if i use apt-get install php4
[02:58] <jasoncohen> erisco, and they'll integrate with apache2 if you want with libapache2-mod-php4
[02:58] <airbon> sorry, no. thanks
[02:58] <cafuego> erisco: apt-get install libapache-mpd-php4
[02:58] <erisco> php4 will just work with my server?
[02:58] <erisco> okay
[02:58] <cafuego> erisco: Yep
[02:58] <erisco> wow too easy
[02:59] <jasoncohen> erisco, you can also use synaptic to install packages
[02:59] <overlade> oh
[02:59] <erisco> yeah i found that nifty program =)
[02:59] <cafuego> erisco: php5 would have involved installing development files, compiling, editing config files, cursing as the install overwrote already existing files... just pain.
[02:59] <andy__> How can i 'link' the /mnt/music directory to localhost/music, with apache? so when i surf to my site/music i can reach the files in the /mnt/music directory?
[02:59] <erisco> E: Couldn't find package libapache-mpd-php4
[02:59] <jasoncohen> redtech, did ubuntu run a check on the HD when you rebooted- did you a bar with a percentage meter saying it's checking /?
[02:59] <Cin> woah fuck that's fast, pardon my language
[02:59] <Cin> sorted :P
[02:59] <erisco> php5 is for experts only i guess
[03:00] <erisco> php4 is for dummies?
[03:00] <geronimo_> hello please you french
[03:00] <Cin> zoomage graphics!
[03:00] <RetroMan> andy__ - see mount --bind
[03:00] <redtech_> jasoncohen, negative
[03:00] <cafuego> erisco: it will also be packaged, in due time.
[03:00] <RetroMan> man mount
[03:00] <erisco> cool
[03:00] <Burgundavia> erisco, php5 is now in breezy
[03:00] <jasoncohen> erisco, no- php5 just wasn't packaged for hoary. it'll be in breezy
[03:00] <Cin> *runs heavy graphics 3D screensaver as celebration*
[03:00] <Belutz> it should be libapache-mod-php4 i guess
[03:00] <jasoncohen> redtech, ok, where are you now?
[03:00] <cafuego> erisco: No, it's essentially the same thing, just a higher version number.
[03:00] <Belutz> not mpd
[03:00] <erisco> but as i put above ^ there was an error
[03:00] <erisco> here it is again
[03:00] <erisco> E: Couldn't find package libapache-mpd-php4
[03:00] <cafuego> erisco: mod-php, not mpd-php4
[03:00] <Cin> agh you guys rule
[03:01] <cafuego> erisco: mod-php4, not mpd-php4
[03:01] <jasoncohen> Belutz, libapache-mod-php4 is more apache 1.3.x, libapache2-mod-php4 is for apache 2
[03:01] <cafuego> arggghv
[03:01] <erisco> someone had a typo then
[03:01] <jasoncohen> *is for
[03:01] <erisco> and it wasn't me o0
[03:01] <cafuego> erisco: My middle name is typo3
[03:01] <redtech_> jasoncohen,  booted up on phlak ATM,  ill grab my lapper and do anything you recommend =)
[03:01] <Cin> lol
[03:01] <Belutz> jasoncohen: yup i know that :)
[03:01] <ESKILO> what is the point of esd?  someone said you can configure alsa to use "dmix"..
[03:01] <erisco> lol
[03:01] <mada> hello all ... i have a Xscreensaver issue ... anyone know much about it?
[03:01] <Cin> what's your issue?
[03:01] <erisco> when you text appears red you are private messaging me right?
[03:02] <erisco> well how do i private message back?
[03:02] <jasoncohen> erisco, /msg
[03:02] <Cin> ./msg <user> <message>
[03:02] <erisco> erisco, /msg
[03:02] <desrt> erisco; try pressing tab
[03:02] <Cin> lol
[03:02] <jake1> i need quick math here
[03:02] <nickrud> ESKILO, esd is intended to let various apps send sound streams to your hardware card simultaneously, dmix is another way to do that
[03:02] <Velcan2> someone is using my nickserv'd name :`(
[03:02] <phixion> help :(
[03:02] <mada> Cin: well ... when xscreensaver runs for a while, it crashes xorg, and that locks up my entire system, i can't even alt+tab+F1
[03:02] <jasoncohen> ESKILO, esd allows multiplexing- which means that multiple programs can output sound at once
[03:02] <erisco> ./msg jasoncohen did this work?
[03:02] <nickrud> !sound
[03:02] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[03:02] <jake1> there is a pin number that is four digits long... and you can use 0-9 only how many possible combinations are there
[03:03] <phixion> I can't extract ANYTHING, I downloaded "unrar" I cant extract anything with that. nor can I extract anything with Archive Manager.
[03:03] <erisco> yay!
[03:03] <mada> Cin: any ideas?
[03:03] <desrt> mada; i had that a while ago.  turned out my videocard was bad
[03:03] <erisco> i got it
[03:03] <gradzac> jakel: 4^10
[03:03] <redtech> jasoncohen, ok lapper is here
[03:03] <jasoncohen> ESKILO, you can also use ESD with ALSA which is the method you're referring to which is supposed to be better. for example, the mplayer package doesn't work for me unless i use libesd0-alsa
[03:03] <desrt> mada; it would overheat when in use and destabilise the system
[03:03] <erisco> so that command ran through
[03:03] <redtech> got any recommendations?
[03:03] <jasoncohen> erisco, yes
[03:03] <geronimo_> personne parle franais SVP
[03:03] <andy__> can't find mount --bind help
[03:03] <mada> desrt: i have onboard video ... intel i810 (its an old machine)
[03:03] <erisco> my server is now php4 compatable?
[03:04] <jake1> 1 048 576
[03:04] <jasoncohen> redtech, boot into failsafe mode and tell me what happens
[03:04] <desrt> geronimo_; #ubuntu-fr
[03:04] <erisco> i thought it would have been way harder
[03:04] <jasoncohen> erisco, yes, you can use php code on your apache2 server
[03:04] <erisco> gee thanks
[03:04] <jake1> i'm trying to find a free dial-around service
[03:04] <sebest> hello, which package contain xmodmap onbreezy?
[03:04] <Cin> your swap file sorted right?
[03:04] <jake1> so i can spoof my cpn
[03:04] <phixion> what do I need to handle rar3.0 files?
[03:04] <andy__> isn't it something with the httpd.conf and alias
[03:04] <erisco> okay next step, to install a mysql database...
[03:04] <mada> Cin: swap file sorted?
[03:04] <erisco> apt-get install msql?
[03:04] <Cin> it's not using up all memory is it?
[03:05] <jasoncohen> erisco, php is nice, i have mythweb on my apache server which heavily uses php
[03:05] <erisco> would that work perhaps?
[03:05] <Burgundavia> erisco, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:05] <airbon> i just wanna install the java runtime. is it the same as the JDK
[03:05] <mada> Cin: no, i run gkrellm and then erun the screensaver for a few minutes and then move my mouse to see how my system is holding up ... it seems fine, only using a little over half the ram
[03:05] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, why does it recommend mysql 4.1 over mysql 4.0 when 4.1 is in universe?
[03:05] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, no idea
[03:06] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, it is a wiki page, edit it
[03:06] <geneo93> phixion:  unrar-nonfree
[03:06] <redtech> jasoncohen, Im not sure how to accomplish that.. but it appears to be coming up.  Is there some checks I can run while in ubuntu?
[03:06] <jasoncohen> redtech, yes- tell me when it's finished starting up
[03:06] <dori> anyone have write access to the website? found a dead link
[03:06] <redtech> sitting at login screen
[03:06] <jasoncohen> redtech, you'll want to run a fsck check on your drive and that needs to be done before you mount /
[03:07] <erisco> so on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP if i just do the three sudo commands, my server will have a database?
[03:07] <jasoncohen> redtech, ctrl-alt-f1
[03:07] <Belutz> maybe because in mysql 4.1 already support nested select while mysql 4.0 is not
[03:07] <redtech> jasoncohen, ok
[03:07] <Belutz> ?
[03:07] <jasoncohen> redtech, and login with your main account. then type "sudo shutdown -Fr now"
[03:07] <Velcan2> are there any gnome apps out there to make changing splash screens easier?
[03:07] <file> hey im trying to use dual monitors on gnome
[03:07] <file> on a nvidia 6800gt
[03:07] <mada> Cin: any ideas?
[03:08] <file> my main monitor is working, hooked up through dvi, my secondary monitor isnt working through the vga
[03:08] <redtech> jasoncohen, ok rebooting.
[03:09] <nickrud> Velcan2, not really, although you can set the proper gconf key in gconf-editor (apps/gnome-session/splash_image)
[03:09] <phixion> geneo93, thanks, where can I get it from? It isn't in the repositories (it says it is in wiki)
[03:09] <Cin> sorry mate, i'm new a linux, i was just interested, i'll give it a google
[03:10] <dori> how are redirects done in the ubuntu wiki?
[03:10] <geneo93> phixion:  it maybe in universe repository
[03:10] <Burgundavia> dori, #REDIRECT PageToBeRedirectTo
[03:10] <redtech> jasoncohen, so in the event that this box absolutley failed to start.  Would booting into any nix distro cd (phlak, knoppix) and fsck that drive?
[03:10] <mada> Cin: i've been googling the hell out of it ... i've been a debian user for about 4 years and never had a problem, i read up on ubuntu and liked the idea of it, so i installed it on this old machine to try it out ... i like it, but i have a little problem :P
[03:10] <jasoncohen> redtech, yeah- i did this with the hoary live cd
[03:11] <jasoncohen> redtech, just pop it in, startup, and fsck /dev/hda
[03:11] <Cin> ahh lol, have you tried #linux?
[03:11] <redtech> jasoncohen, ahh, makes sense.  So the fact that this box is now sitting at the login screen.  Its complete? Are there any logs to see if the fsck fixed something?
[03:12] <mada> Cin: naw ... i don't think it is a generic issue, i've never had a problem with xscreensaver, even in the years i spent on both redhat and slackware :/
[03:12] <jasoncohen> redtech, well, did you see it run?
[03:12] <redtech> jasoncohen, yes there was a progress bar...
[03:12] <jasoncohen> redtech, didn't you see something about fsck checking your / and /home parititions
[03:12] <jasoncohen> redtech, and both when up to a 100% and were successful?
[03:12] <redtech> correct
[03:12] <file> anyone use dual monitors here?
[03:13] <Velcan2> nickrud:  do you know how to change gconf values from the command line? ... i mihgt work on little nautilus-script
[03:13] <geneo93> phixion:  you need to enable univers repo in synaptic
[03:13] <jasoncohen> redtech, then you "should" be fine. your partitions are OK.
[03:13] <phixion> geneo93, ive done that
[03:13] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to run the ssh client
[03:13] <geneo93> reload then
[03:13] <r0bby> rob@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs errors=recover /dev/hdb1
[03:13] <r0bby> mount: special device errors=recover does not exist
[03:13] <r0bby> rob@ubuntu:~$
[03:13] <r0bby> what's that mean :/
[03:13] <redtech> jasoncohen, great.  Thank you so very much! Once again this community has shined!
[03:13] <crimsun> you missed -o, r0bby
[03:14] <geneo93> phixion:  its in mine
[03:14] <nickrud> Velcan2, gconftool-2
[03:14] <SoulMate> I REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do?
[03:14] <Velcan2> kk thanks
[03:14] <r0bby> where does -o go :/
[03:14] <crimsun> in front of errors=
[03:14] <jasoncohen> redtech, have you had any other problems or just that one ext3 error?
[03:15] <redtech> jasoncohen, just that one
[03:15] <phixion> geneo93, do you mind pasting me your sources.list please?  (Alexis Sukrieh) ... If I try and
[03:15] <Cin> execute it from Xscreensaver i get a flat-out crash (terminalted with ..
[03:15] <pestilence> anybody know how to fix this error from vncserver?
[03:15] <pestilence> Fatal server error:
[03:15] <pestilence> could not open default font 'fixed'
[03:15] <geneo93> phixion:  its to big for here
[03:15] <Cin> mada: http://draves.org/HyperNews/get.cgi/flame.html?inline=-1
[03:15] <Cin> ?? any help?
[03:15] <SoulMate> I REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do?
[03:15] <phixion> geneo93, do you have any ftp u can upload it to in a .txt file maybe?
[03:15] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, i changed the ApacheMySQLPHP guide to install mysql-server rather than mysql-server-4.1. Most users won't need 4.1 and 4.0 has full security support
[03:15] <phixion> i dont get it though
[03:15] <mada> Cin: just a minute ... lemme see
[03:16] <file> anyone use dual monitors here?
[03:16] <phixion> geneo93, its all enabled i dont understand why...
[03:16] <jasoncohen> redtech, well, you should probably also install the smart monitoring tools and check your drive just to make sure
[03:16] <r0bby> :D
[03:16] <geneo93> check and see if its commented out
[03:16] <SoulMate> I REALLY need help.. i keep getting "debootstrap error" during installing the base.. what do i do? ive tried 3 times already!!
[03:17] <roo_> whats to dance about, r0bby ?
[03:17] <r0bby> there is a backup boot sector?
[03:17] <jasoncohen> redtech, sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[03:17] <aru> SoulMate: maybe repeat it a few more times...
[03:17] <SoulMate> it just keep popping up and wont install
[03:17] <pestilence> possibly this bug:  http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12325
[03:17] <pestilence> but there is no resolution
[03:17] <Cin> mada: i don't fully understand much of linux yet... so it's probably irrelevant lol
[03:17] <kyncani> SoulMate: switch to console and look at the kernel logs with dmesg
[03:17] <nickrud> SoulMate, I'd do an md5sum on the cdrom, see if there was a write error
[03:17] <redtech> jasoncohen, installed.
[03:17] <Cin> mada: made the switch from windows to linux, heh
[03:18] <mada> Cin: lol, fair enough ... i will take a look into it
[03:18] <mada> Cin: good for you, i did that a few years ago and have been so happy with it
[03:18] <mada> Cin: and the thing about debian and debian based distros is that once you install it once, get your base setup working ... you never have to re-install EVER
[03:18] <jasoncohen> redtech, this is a good page to use - http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Monitor_your_hard_disk(s)_with_smartmontools
[03:19] <jasoncohen> redtech, first, "sudo smartctl -i /dev/hda" to see if your HD supports SMART
[03:19] <Velcan2> nickrud:  are you familiar with gconftool-2 at all? Wondering if this looks correct: gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image "NameOfSplashImage"
[03:19] <jasoncohen> redtech, then follow the instructions on that site to run tests on your HD and see if it passes
[03:19] <Velcan2> I guess I could just try it :P
[03:20] <jasoncohen> redtech, "sudo smartctl -H /dev/hda" will give you an idea if it's going to fail in the imminent future
[03:20] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, thanks
[03:20] <jasoncohen> redtech, but the other tests will give you more info
[03:20] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, np
[03:20] <airmikey> anyone here running openbox wm ?
[03:20] <nickrud> Velcan2, yeah, that looks ok to me (lol)
[03:21] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to set up ssh so ican send files to my windows xp computer
[03:21] <Velcan2> ~_^
[03:21] <Bico_Fino> hi? i need help with intenet share. Can help me?
[03:22] <redtech> jasoncohen, says smart support avail. Overall health passed.  Ill read that site.  ty!!
[03:22] <jasoncohen> redtech, np- hope this helps
[03:24] <Bico_Fino> hu? somebody here use ubuntu to share internet?
[03:24] <Thewrdnrd> Realistically, how unstable is breezy?
[03:24] <robertj> Thew: very
[03:24] <nickrud> Velcan2, seriously, though, that jibes with my memory
[03:24] <Thewrdnrd> Is it like Debian unstable, which I ran pretty heavily without problems?
[03:24] <robertj> Thew: no, its like Debian experimental
[03:24] <Velcan2> nickrud:  It works :)
[03:24] <r0bby> :D
[03:25] <Thewrdnrd> Ah, hmmm.
[03:25] <bramker> Bico_Fino, what problem do you have with share internet?
[03:25] <r0bby> dd is god
[03:25] <r0bby> learn how to play with it
[03:25] <Velcan2> nickrud:  now im just figuring out how to add it to a nautilus-script ;]
[03:25] <r0bby> it will pleasure you in ways you never thought possible
[03:25] <RetroMan> whats the draw of breezy?  I dont understand?
[03:25] <r0bby> ubotu, pastebin
[03:25] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ or #flood
[03:25] <sly> longtime no see all
[03:25] <wolfjb> How do I get X to start with GLX everytime I login, rather than every other time I login ?
[03:25] <jasoncohen> Thewrdnrd, breezy was being developed at a much faster pace than sid. For a while sid wasn't getting any radical changes at all because testing was frozen. Once sarge released, sid got quite unstable
[03:26] <nickrud> Velcan2, just write a bash script with that line, and drop the script in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[03:26] <M509> ...
[03:26] <Bico_Fino> bramker i want share it with another pc's, its work on server. And the clients don't work. But i can ping adress(This is not a dns problem)
[03:26] <jasoncohen> Thewrdnrd, for a while- not sure if this is the case now, X didn't even work in breezy. In a month or two breezy will be in much better shape...hopefully
[03:26] <linlin> Im having trouble installing mplayer with synaptic
[03:27] <jasoncohen> linlin, what's the problem?
[03:27] <linlin> i get an error, aomething about keys
[03:27] <Thewrdnrd> Oh, and CenterICQ is on version 4.13.0. Not sure how old that is, but it's probably about a year IIRC.
[03:27] <Velcan2> nickrud:  yea im making it so it checks if the file allready exists in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/; copies it there if not; and then sets it as splash
[03:27] <Thewrdnrd> So I'm just wondering if there's something like testing, or a source of newer packages smewhere?
[03:27] <jasoncohen> linlin, did you enable some unofficial repositories?
[03:28] <Bico_Fino> bramker the rule iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j MASQUERADE. I have 2 NICs. One <IP_ADDRESS>(local network) and another to connect the dsl
[03:28] <Velcan2> nickrud:  if i only knew how to also check if the file is an image :-\
[03:28] <nickrud> Velcan2, have you taken a look at zenity yet? It gives you some gui dialogs that might be useful
[03:28] <Velcan2> ^_^
[03:28] <vader1102> ok, I cannot see any pc's on my workgroup... I have installed smb and smbfs, but this is where I am stuck any help?
[03:28] <wolfjb> if I login and type glxinfo | grep direct, if I get direct rendering: No, I logoff and login again and I'll get direct rendering: Yes. Logging off and back on again gets me direct rendering: No
[03:28] <Velcan2> yes :)
[03:28] <Velcan2> love it
[03:28] <jasoncohen> Thewrdnrd, breezy will be released in october. By september it should be safe to use - at least reasonably safe
[03:28] <Velcan2> post a few wishes actually
[03:28] <Velcan2> posted*
[03:28] <wolfjb> how do I make it always be: direct rendering: Yes
[03:28] <wolfjb> ?
[03:29] <robertj> anyone know of a good channel for grammer questions?
[03:29] <builder> is Hoary a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel?
[03:29] <goldfish> 2.6
[03:29] <goldfish> i think
[03:29] <Velcan2> nickrud:  Also post a wish for nautilus-scripts to get rid of the annoying 'Scripts' submenu
[03:29] <builder> tnx
[03:30] <holycow> does anyone know if there is a tool to adjust gamma on x11?
[03:30] <M509> I recently installed doomlegacy, but I can't fingure out how to run it... help?
[03:30] <jasoncohen> ...marillat does it again
[03:30] <jasoncohen> heh
[03:30] <nickrud> Velcan2, I can live with that: at times in the past, I've had submenu's in scripts. Over the years, I've moved away from that as gnome got more integrated
[03:30] <erisco> hello, I was wondering how I can get into my data base with a terminal
[03:30] <erisco> i am mysql
[03:30] <erisco> have mysql i mean
[03:31] <Cin> ubuntu's res setting only allows up to 1024x768, but my cars capable of 1280x1024... how do i change it so i can get that?
[03:31] <M509> Can someone help me run doomlegacy?
[03:31] <M509> please?
[03:31] <RetroMan> Cin - you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:31] <Velcan2> nickrud:  yea. i have certain scripts that i want in submenus which we can create. but there are a few i would like to just have in my default right-click menu
[03:32] <RetroMan> (or XFree86-4 file, if youre using xfree86)
[03:32] <Cin> i tried adding "1280" on there... but it seemed not to change when i restarted x :O
[03:32] <Velcan2> nickrud:  ones that i use more often
[03:33] <holycow> nvidia-settings package will let all those running nvidia cards to change gamma, brightness and contrast
[03:33] <Agamotto> holycow:  Yes, a minor god-send for those of us who are photo-sensitive
[03:34] <holycow> Agamotto, hehe i am watching existenz, it's not been properly calibrated before release to production
[03:34] <Ohpoo> woot! I did #sudo apt-get clean . Now I got 33.5gig free space instead of 33.4gig. :)
[03:35] <abarbaccia> 100MB - costs like .10
[03:35] <Cin> clean... is that unused packages?
[03:35] <nalioth> nickrud: you sneak in here?
[03:35] <crimsun> Cin: no, those are ones in the downloaded cache
[03:35] <nickrud> heh, a little here and there
[03:36] <SquareGuy> well i can say that the radeon drivers at ati's site are working much, much faster than what shipped with 5.05
[03:36] <Cin> ahhh
[03:36] <crimsun> Cin: "autoclean" would be the unused ones in the downloaded cache
[03:36] <Cin> so it's completely safe to do?
[03:36] <Ohpoo> I did both autoclean and clean
[03:36] <crimsun> Ohpoo: clean implies autoclean
[03:36] <Cin> lol
[03:36] <M509> can someone helop me with getting doomlegacy to run?
[03:37] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, I'm using a Radeon 9200, but direct rendering seems to only be enabled every second time I login, have you had that problem?
[03:37] <vader1102> crimsun: I have a small question for you... I want to put my ubuntu laptop on my workgroup, I have samba and smbfs installed but that is where I stop because I don;t know what to do next
[03:37] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, no i haven't had that problem.  did you use Ubuntus fglrx drivers then switch to ATI's at some point?
[03:37] <Ohpoo> crimsun, so it does both huh?
[03:38] <Jimbob> vader1102: Is it a workgroup or a full-on domain?
[03:38] <crimsun> Ohpoo: clean is far more thorough
[03:38] <vader1102> workgroup
[03:38] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, I used ATI's the entire time
[03:38] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to run ssh
[03:38] <crimsun> ubuntu_: ssh <host>
[03:38] <crimsun> ubuntu_: please see man ssh
[03:39] <Jimbob> vader1102: Ok, just edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf to set your workgroup and netbios name and off you go
[03:39] <crimsun> (unless you mean sshd, in which case you want to man sshd)
[03:39] <Ohpoo> crimsun, cool
[03:39] <Cin> oh yeah, so if i add "1280" to my xorg.conf and restart x it should allow me to set my res to that on the menu, right?
[03:39] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, doh, actually I only thought I was using them, I seem to have ubuntu's version installed
[03:39] <spartas> ubuntu_, if you mean sshd, you will need to apt-get install sshd
[03:39] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, okay well that isnt it.  i used the ones from Ubuntu then switched and Ubuntu decided to leave a copy of its fglrx laying around.  I had to manually remove it
[03:39] <crimsun> spartas: openssh-server, please.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> yea i did tha already
[03:39] <nalioth> ubuntu_: the sshd package is actually called "openssh-server"
[03:40] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, thanks, I'll give that a try
[03:40] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, well i can say that ATI's work.  its about a 35mb dl for the .run file
[03:40] <mobus> I installed doomlegacy on ubuntu, but I can't seem to get it to run.  Can someone help me with this?
[03:40] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, watch for this
[03:40] <file> anyone know about using 2 monitors in gnome?
[03:40] <Agamotto> mobus:  Do you have the data files?
[03:40] <Bico_Fino> somebody here use ubuntu to share internet?
[03:40] <mobus> what data files?
[03:40] <Agamotto> The data files for the levels
[03:41] <mobus> I got it from the package manager
[03:41] <spartas> crimsun, sorry, i meant to type just ssh, which depends on openssh-server
[03:41] <Agamotto> The engine is open, but you need level data to create a game
[03:41] <ubuntu_> ah im lost, all im tryin to do is send files from a ruined xp install towtwork anotherpc on my net
[03:41] <ubuntu_> trying to send 5 gigs of files to an xp box on my network
[03:41] <mobus> ok... where can I get the level data?
[03:42] <mobus> and why don't I get an error messge when I type #doomlegacy?
[03:42] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, uninstall what you have with synaptic then make sure there are no fglrx files anywhere in /lib/modules.  make sure to have kernel headers installed, run ati's .run file the make sure to goto /lib/modules/fglrx and compile/install the module
[03:42] <nalioth> ubuntu_: use gftp, it has ssh built in
[03:42] <Agamotto> ubuntu_:    On the machine you want to send from - ssh, find the name or ip of the machine you want to send to, and go
[03:42] <Agamotto> mobus:  You pull it from the game cds, or from mod sites that have created their own
[03:43] <Amaranth> sounds like he wants samba
[03:43] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, and also make sure to backup xorg.conf in case you use fglrxconfig and it pooches it.  i would manually edit it
[03:43] <Agamotto> Amaranth:  Yeah, but Samba can be too complicated for beginners
[03:43] <mobus> ok, but how do I pull up the program in the first place? and where would I put the WADs?
[03:44] <Zeroblitzt> Hey all, I tried Ubuntu yesterday, decided I loved it and installed it. I have a problem though. Totem video player doesn't play .mpgs for some reason (always gives me an error) and I installed MPlayer, and its playing videos at 3x speed and with no sound. Anyone know of a fix?
[03:44] <flarg3> hello
[03:44] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, great! thanks for the help
[03:44] <flarg3> have you installed all the right codecs?
[03:45] <mobus> ...
[03:45] <Agamotto> mobus:  You must have the data files before the program will do anything
[03:45] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, np i have had a lot of pain in the past with ati and linux hehe.
[03:45] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, yeah, unfortunately, so have I
[03:45] <Amaranth> Agamotto: and installing an ssh server on winxp isn't?
[03:45] <Zeroblitzt> flarg3 --> with Mplayer, I installed the "essential" codecs package
[03:45] <mobus> ok.  but when I call the program, it'll give me an error message about not having WADs, nmot an error message about bash not being able to find it
[03:46] <Zeroblitzt> I havent installed any codecs for Totem though, im running off of whatever came with the default package
[03:46] <Agamotto> mobus:  As far as where to put the WADs, read the manual for LegacyDoom
[03:46] <mobus> it says bash can't find the program in the first place
[03:46] <mobus> and where is that manual?
[03:46] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, i have actually considered spending 300 to switch over to nvidia on this laptop ;(
[03:46] <flarg3> Zeroblitzt ->mmm, goto ubuntuguide.org and find the section about codecs. Try installing some. I wouldnt recommend much else of that guide though...
[03:47] <godzirra> Is there a way to tell vim to indent html correctly? (i.e. tables, td's, and tr's are indented?)
[03:47] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, I've thought about it for my desktop too, just because of the driver issue
[03:47] <Zeroblitzt> ok, thanks, will do
[03:47] <Agamotto> Amaranth:  I haven't bothered with much under XP.  I have it for games, and that is about it
[03:47] <flarg3> no probs
[03:47] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, I just don't have an extra $300 (or whatever:) to spend on a new card right now
[03:47] <mobus> where is the legacyDoom manual/
[03:47] <Ohpoo> Agamotto, same here but I think i'm done with games now
[03:48] <godzirra> you can find an nvidia 6200 now for $100
[03:48] <Cin> i kicked x's behind
[03:48] <Cin> ^__^
[03:48] <Agamotto> mobus:  google legacydoom
[03:48] <benplaut> !find legacydoom
[03:48] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, i hear ya
[03:49] <nickrud> !info doomlegacy-sdl
[03:49] <ubotu> doomlegacy-sdl: (A port of the Doom engine that supports OpenGL), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1.41release-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 996 kB
[03:49] <godzirra> Is there a way to tell vim to indent html correctly? (i.e. tables, td's, and tr's are indented?)
[03:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'legacydoom' returned no results.
[03:50] <D1> is there wolfenstein in universe too?
[03:50] <flarg3> does anyone know how to get hotplugged disks etc to create desktop icons without restarting dbus-1?
[03:50] <crispynix-v6> anyone happen to have a working java plugin with the latest breezy? it crashes mozilla and firefox here :/ (using the java provided by backports hoary extras)
[03:50] <mobus> bash: !find legacydoom: event not found
[03:51] <mobus> same for info legacydoom-sdl
[03:51] <r0bby> :D
[03:51] <r0bby> hey vader
[03:51] <r0bby> :D
[03:52] <crispynix-v6> alternatively, can I rebuild the java plugin? how?
[03:52] <vader1102> hey r0bby
[03:52] <Bico_Fino> somebody here use ubuntu to share internet??!??!
[03:52] <Agamotto> crispynix-v6:  Reinstall via Synaptic?
[03:52] <nickrud> mobus, the !info here was asking an irc bot :) apt-cache doomlegacy-sdl will tell you more; sudo aptitude install doomlegacy-sdl will install it
[03:52] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, i should have gotten some numbers from doom3 but on glxgears it went from around 1200 to around 2300 with that driver swap
[03:52] <crispynix-v6> Agamotto: just installed sun-j2re1.5
[03:52] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, woot! that is fast!
[03:53] <Agamotto> crispynix-v6: Hmmmm
[03:53] <crispynix-v6> Agamotto: it's likely a C version problem (the plugin appears to have been built with gcc < 3.4... mozilla and firefox were probably built with 4.0)
[03:53] <nickrud> mobus, sorry, apt-cache show doomlegacy-sld
[03:53] <Ohpoo> Oh know I just put some more stuff on my hard drive. I'm up to 6% disk usage. :)
[03:53] <nickrud> mobus, sorry, apt-cache show doomlegacy-sdl duh
[03:54] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, I'm still running around 1300fps but that will change shortly when I get the right drivers installed
[03:54] <godzirra> on that note... someone help me with vim :)  can you make it autoindent HTML??
[03:54] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, yeah i got about a 2-yr old dell 8600 with 1.7 pentium m and ati radeon 9600.  i really want to build an amd 64 desktop with nvidia
[03:54] <vader1102> Jimbob: it still isn't seeing the other 2 pc's I am wondering if there is a GUI for configuring the workgroup
[03:55] <crispynix-v6> Agamotto: SOL? Is the plugin closed-source?
[03:55] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, do you mean frames per second? In what game? doom?
[03:55] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, that would be sweet. I'm living on an AMD 1700 with an ati radeon 9200. moving to a nice 64 would be kinda cool
[03:55] <Agamotto> crispynix-v6:  It appears so
[03:55] <by_ruffo> hello people!
[03:56] <Ohpoo> hello by_ruffo
[03:56] <crispynix-v6> grr, figures that when I really need browser java, it's broken. :-/
[03:56] <by_ruffo> how i can install oident ??
[03:56] <wolfjb> Ohpoo, glxgears fps, although I do well in games like RtCW, Doom 3, and Unreal Tounament2004
[03:56] <batma8> is there a place in ubuntu that works like my computer in windows where you can view the used, and total space on your hard drives?
[03:56] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, oh you mean the screen saver?
[03:57] <file> how do i use 2 monitors in ubuntu?>
[03:57] <Will_> batma8: df -h ?
[03:57] <wolfjb> Ohpoo, no, just running glxgears from the command line
[03:57] <batma8> Will_: that works
[03:57] <batma8> thanks
[03:58] <Nevado> file, do you have nvidia graphics card?
[03:58] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, cool let me try it. I got a 1.5ghz p4 , 512ram , 5900 fx
[03:58] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, i ran rtcw under cvs-cedega just to test it.  hehe kinda funny using it to play a game that has linux binaries
[03:58] <Agamotto> batma8:  Click on places, then right-click on the volume, open properties
[03:58] <file> Nevado, yes i do
[03:58] <file> 6800gt
[03:59] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, never have tried that, always use the .run file from the website...
[03:59] <wolfjb> SquareGuy, how well does that work for you?
[03:59] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, so is this good when it says this? #31665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6333.000 FPS
[04:00] <Nevado> file, if you're using the nvidia driver then basically in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under the device section for your graphics card, you want to add a couple of lines... hang on i'll paste mine on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:00] <SquareGuy> file, i want your video card.  what did you have to pay for it?
[04:00] <wolfjb> Ohpoo, looks better than mine
[04:00] <file> i got it a while ago, 380$ agp
[04:00] <linlin> :(
[04:00] <linlin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:00] <linlin>   transcode: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:01] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, hmmm well now that I don't play games It really doesn't help me out lol
[04:01] <Nevado> file, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/859
[04:01] <black13> i am getting the error (EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, failing back to pre-XKB keymap
[04:01] <black13> but i am reading that this should be non-fatal
[04:01] <file> ah i see, twin view
[04:01] <wolfjb> Ohpoo, makes gl screensavers work nicely though
[04:01] <jasoncohen> linlin, yeah- that's a problem with the transcode package
[04:02] <jasoncohen> linlin, you need to add hoary-backports
[04:02] <file> ill try it out now, thanks
[04:02] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, :). Yea I like my Screensavers
[04:02] <jasoncohen> linlin, it really should use hoary's libgcc1
[04:02] <Nevado> yeah then just semi colon separated list of resolutions for the two monitors
[04:02] <Nevado> np hope it works :)
[04:02] <gpd> Nevado: do you know how to specify which monitor is which.. I"m using twinview with a dlp projecetor and I can't tell it which is my CRT and which is the DLP?
[04:03] <by_ruffo> nothing about oident ??
[04:03] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, hey do you know alot about ram? I got 152ram and now running ubuntu It is only using 147MB of it. So if I get a gig of ram will it use more?
[04:03] <Cin> okay i'm still having my crashing problem, i thought it was due to playing music and might have something to do with the usage of my sound card until it's just crashed while i wasn't using XMMS atall and checking out screen savers... so agh, it could happen any minute *freaks*
[04:03] <vader1102> errrrrrrrr, I still cannot see any pc's on the workgroup and no one can see me
[04:03] <SquareGuy> wolfjb, actuallt it worked quite well
[04:04] <linlin> so should i jsut install transcode from source?
[04:04] <Cin> damn these spontaneous crashes
[04:04] <linlin> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:04] <nickrud> by_ruffo, you are probably looking for oidentd in universe, I think
[04:04] <Nevado> gpd, there are options to specify which is which somewhere yeah... hang on a min
[04:04] <linlin> is that what i need to add?
[04:05] <file> alright how do i restart my xserver or whatever
[04:05] <linlin> log out
[04:05] <wolfjb> Ohpoo, I'm not an expert, but naturally. If there is more available to use, more will be used, but it probably won't use 100% of it otherwise programs would start - or start very fast since the system would write to the page file a lot
[04:05] <linlin> log in
[04:05] <file> alright
[04:05] <file> be right back
[04:05] <jasoncohen> linlin, "sudo echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:05] <cafuego> linlin: that doesn't restart X
[04:05] <nickrud> log out, alt-ctl-backspace, log in
[04:05] <sly> file, cntrl + alt + dl
[04:05] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, oh ok thanks
[04:05] <file> kk
[04:06] <jasoncohen> linlin, sorry, use this command instead, "sudo echo deb "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[04:06] <cafuego> file: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or logout; ctrl-alt-bksp
[04:06] <Nevado> gpd, appendix I in here: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7174/README.txt has all the details
[04:07] <wolfjb> brb
[04:07] <linlin> same error
[04:07] <gpd> Nevado: excellnet, thanks!  one more q.  to switch between dual and single monitor I use 2 xorg.conf.xxx files and overwrite xorg.conf is there a better way to do this?
[04:07] <wolfjb> I'm back
[04:08] <Ohpoo> I"m front
[04:08] <vader1102> Jimbob: you still here?
[04:08] <wolfjb> had to switch to text mode so I can update my firegl drivers
[04:08] <wolfjb> :-)
[04:08] <cafuego> gpd: You could write a script to switch between xorg.conf's
[04:08] <Nevado> gpd, if you're using gnome then what I do is in the MetaModes section if you enter the resolution as NULL it will disable that monitor
[04:08] <Nevado> gpd,  so I have         Option          "MetaModes"     "1280x1024,1280x1024;1280x1024,NULL"
[04:09] <Nevado> gpd, then you can change between them in gnome by going to system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[04:09] <Mobius> any suggestions on how to flash my asus notebooks' bios? I am not having any luck
[04:09] <charles> how do I control what the HAL daemon starts when (removable) new drives are plugged in?
[04:09] <gpd> Nevado: sounds good, I'll try it ;)
[04:09] <Bico_Fino> somebody here use ubuntu to share internet??!??!
[04:09] <Agamotto> Mobius:  Have you made a flash boot-floppy?
[04:10] <Agamotto> Bico_Fino:  No, since no one has answered you yet
[04:10] <Mobius> no floppy drive on the notebook Agamotoo
[04:10] <Mobius> Agamotto*
[04:10] <Bico_Fino> Agamotto i see. i go back to slackware
[04:11] <Nevado> Bico_Fino, have you tried looking in the forums?
[04:11] <Agamotto> Mobius:  Hmmmm, I suppose you could send the floppy image to a usb key, if the notebook supports that, or a cd using SmartBootManager
[04:11] <Mobius> I tried the key, no luck - SmartBootManager?
[04:11] <Bico_Fino> Nevado yes. but is some very strange. in server works, and on clients i can ping domains and all. But don't work.
[04:11] <nickrud> Bico_Fino, look into ipmasq and firestarter, both allow internet sharing
[04:11] <Agamotto> It is a boot cd that can force computers to boot from the source you choose, if the BIOS supports it
[04:12] <Bico_Fino> nickrud i will see.
[04:12] <Cin> insanity insues
[04:12] <nalioth> nickrud: have you lost any windows lately/
[04:13] <Ohpoo> Cin, hehe
[04:13] <nickrud> nalioth, no defenestration recently no
[04:13] <Cin> Ohpoo: lol, i hate your face >____<
[04:13] <nickrud> Bico_Fino, I've toyed with ipmasq in the past, it's pretty cut and dried, if I recall correctly
[04:14] <Bico_Fino> nickrud i install it. let me try
[04:14] <Ohpoo> Cin, well just as long as it's not the rest of body
[04:14] <Cin> whoever said switching from windows to linux was a safe idea
[04:14] <Ohpoo> Cin,  of my body
[04:14] <Agamotto> Cin:  For most 'home' users, it is
[04:14] <file> aLright
[04:14] <Cin> lol
[04:14] <Cin> damn those 'home' users
[04:15] <file> Nevado, i got it kind of working im tweaking it a biyt
[04:15] <file> it worked dual screen at login, however when i got to my desktop the other monitor went to null
[04:15] <Nevado> file, check system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[04:16] <Cin> i'll wait until my linux guru friend comes online and offer to shine his shoes if he helps me
[04:16] <nalioth> nickrud: how bout PM windows?
[04:16] <nickrud> heh, I'm running breezy for a lark, and I'm not seeing any pms. A bug?
[04:16] <D1> hmmm
[04:16] <D1> breezy updated without errors
[04:16] <D1> looks like its settling down a bit.
[04:17] <Ohpoo> D1 woot. I might try it
[04:17] <Bico_Fino> nickrud i can ping sites from client, but don't browse.
[04:17] <nickrud> I'm back to hoary soon, since beagled doesn't run yet ;(
[04:17] <D1> well, that was just my experience, no gurantees.
[04:17] <file> aww nice
[04:17] <file> works good thanks
[04:17] <Nevado> awesome :)
[04:17] <nickrud> Bico_Fino, then, you probably need to deal with DNS for each client. I'm not sure I remember how to automate that
[04:18] <Bico_Fino> nickrud the dns from server and client are the same. its very strange
[04:18] <Cin> lol
[04:18] <inCo> can anyone help me? i installed limewire using an ubuntu userguide as a reference. in my previous installation it loaded up fine, but now when i click on it nothing happens
[04:18] <Bico_Fino> nickrud its begin to load the site but stop
[04:18] <jgomo> hello. Any body knows how to give java plugins for firfox without instaling the sun-j2re? I installed the kaffe pack but it doesn't have the plugins for the firefox.
[04:19] <file> thanks alot man
[04:19] <wolfjb> jgomo: have you tried gcj? I think that might work
[04:19] <nickrud> Bico_Fino, I wish I could help, but I'm pretty much a beginner when it comes to troubleshooting network stuff.
[04:19] <file> this is phat
[04:19] <Cin> i just want to do some C coding but nooo, *CRASH*
[04:20] <file> i can watch anime and do whatever the hell i want on the other screen
[04:20] <Cin> lol
[04:20] <Cin> anime, fwor
[04:20] <Bico_Fino> nickrud about the security of ubuntu. have something to change or just the ip_forward?
[04:21] <inCo> can anyone help me? i installed limewire using an ubuntu userguide as a reference. in my previous installation it loaded up fine, but now when i click on it nothing happens
[04:21] <nickrud> Bico_Fino, ask that question again later, there are people here off and on who can answer that with some authority
[04:21] <Bico_Fino> nickrud ok. tks
[04:23] <inCo> also how do i get kvric to go in my aplications menu
[04:23] <spudse> Is there a "newby save" way to install fluxbox on Ubuntu
[04:23] <spudse> ?
[04:23] <inCo> i am a new user to linux so i havent learnt much
[04:24] <Bico_Fino> nickrud the more strange is that msn and icq works. hehe
[04:24] <Cin> ... i had to beat them to death with their own shoes   O.o
[04:24] <jgomo> wolfjb: no, i haven't. But i don't think it wold work. Thats because gcj is the gnu java compiler. It is for develpment, like my kaffe. I'm looking for a webbrowser java plugin. Thanks any way. Any other idea.
[04:29] <wolfjb> jgomo: on my debian box I have two install (which may be a problem at some level) but I have a GCJ browser plugin and a Blackdown browser plugin both installed
[04:29] <wolfjb> java generally works for me on that box in firefox. Haven't tried it in ubuntu
[04:30] <Ohpoo> wolfjb, I got the java plugin for firefox
[04:30] <La_PaRCa> Is anybody having trouble with firefox and the flash plugin?
[04:30] <cafuego> inCo: Thank you for not doing that.
[04:30] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, let me try hmm
[04:31] <inCo> i dont understand what i did? sorry about that
[04:31] <linlin> lol
[04:31] <Bico_Fino> cool
[04:31] <cafuego> "Hmm, I wonder what this red butto**BOOM**"
[04:31] <inCo> i pressed source on kvirc, what does it do?
[04:31] <linlin> what is a ctcp source anyways
[04:31] <cafuego> inCo: it spams everyone in the channel with a ctcp.
[04:31] <inCo> damn
[04:31] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, it works
[04:31] <inCo> sorry guys
[04:32] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, um... it freezes my firefox when I close a window thats playing flash
[04:32] <inCo> i suppose thats not the way to go for me getting my question answered then :S
[04:32] <cafuego> inCo: ;-)
[04:32] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, what verison of firefox?
[04:32] <nickrud> inCo, nothing ventured, nothing gained
[04:32] <La_PaRCa> 1.0.6
[04:32] <Trace> hello, supporse i dd my mbr first, and can i dd my mbr back through ubuntu liveCD?
[04:32] <goldfish> lol
[04:33] <Agamotto> inCo:  That is ok, young padawan
[04:33] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, hmmm how did you install the flash plugin?
[04:33] <toad3030> anybody know how to get ubuntu to see an 8 button mouse?
[04:33] <La_PaRCa> apt-get flash-nonfree
[04:34] <abarbaccia> how do you install just the libraries that are needed to compile a certain package
[04:34] <inCo> if anyone knows how to help me with adding programs to the "applications" menu on gnome, and how to make limewire work when i click on it, please can you send me a PM.
[04:34] <Agamotto> 8 button? ok...
[04:34] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, hmm let me see something one second
[04:34] <DekaPink> Can I make VLC show a video in 4:3 aspect ratio like mplayer will? :P
[04:34] <inCo> im a linux noob
[04:34] <inCo> :)
[04:34] <ubuntu_> anyone know how to run sshd after installing it
[04:34] <Agamotto> inCo:  Ignorance can be cured
[04:34] <nickrud> inCo, you need to look into smeg, it's a gnome menu editor
[04:34] <toad3030> yes the logitech MX510 mouse
[04:35] <Agamotto> Call me wierd, but what the hell do you need 8 buttons for?
[04:35] <cafuego> toad3030: Plug it in and it'll do all the basics
[04:35] <ofer0> ubuntu_,  when you are doing "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[04:35] <toad3030> hmm....
[04:35] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, hmm I didn't install that version . I'll tell you what I did
[04:35] <inCo> nickrud: thanks ill look into that now, why doesnt Limewire load up when i click on it would you know?
[04:35] <ofer0> ubuntu_, it runs automaticly, and you can connect your account with your username and password
[04:36] <Dr_Fate> how do I make hdparm script run at a lower priority?
[04:36] <lunitik> cafuego, middle = pressing mouse wheel, surely?
[04:36] <cafuego> toad3030: You can use xev to tell X about the other ones; google for sample configs for an mx510 or mx700.
[04:36] <Amaranth> !smeg
[04:36] <ubotu> I heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:36] <Dr_Fate> its not waiting until the devs are recognized
[04:36] <nickrud> inCo, no, when I want that network, I use gtk-gnutella or mldonkey
[04:36] <Agamotto> cafuego:  Go into the settings, and you should be able to tell it that you have a three button, scroll mouse
[04:36] <cafuego> lunitik: yeah. Except I also have three additonal buttons near the wheel
[04:36] <Dr_Fate> although it still is dma'ing them?
[04:36] <toad3030> is there something in cedega that i have to check for it to work with all buttons? for games?
[04:36] <Amaranth> Dr_Fate: update-rc.d?
[04:37] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, I did this and it works fine #sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:37] <inCo> nickrud: thanks for your help :) much appreciated. bbiab if i get stuck again
[04:37] <Dr_Fate> Amaranth, ??
[04:37] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, trying that one as we speak
[04:37] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, sweet
[04:37] <Amaranth> Dr_Fate: man update-rc.d
[04:37] <Dr_Fate> Amaranth, its already in the boot up scripts
[04:38] <toad3030> what is a good program to watch dvd's with?
[04:38] <jgomo> wolfjb_ Well I'll try that. Thanks.
[04:38] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, nope, killed it too
[04:38] <lunitik> toad3030, totem  :/
[04:38] <toad3030> it won't let me
[04:38] <lunitik> toad3030, look at the wiki on the subject
[04:38] <Agamotto> mplayer
[04:39] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, might be something wrong with firefox, cuz mozilla is being cool about it
[04:39] <Agamotto> Xine is good as well
[04:39] <lunitik> Agamotto, mplayer uses the same codecs as totem
[04:39] <lunitik> Agamotto, without the codecs, he is gonna have issues
[04:39] <toad3030> ok thx
[04:39] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, yea firefox can be alittle crazy sometimes
[04:39] <Agamotto> Hmmm, never had a problem with playing DVDs on mine... I must have fetched a whole bunch of codecs with Synaptic
[04:39] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, Ill have to see about it
[04:39] <jasoncohen> toad3030, i find xine the best for playing DVD movies. it has good subtitle and menu support and has a nice interface for angle, menu, subtitle and other DVD features
[04:40] <jasoncohen> !multimedia
[04:40] <ubotu> methinks multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[04:40] <jasoncohen> toad3030, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[04:40] <Dr_Fate> Amaranth, do you recomend a runlevel?
[04:40] <inCo> where is the linux version of "program files" if you would
[04:40] <Sprinker> Does anyone know how to get dual display working with Gnome 2.10.0?
[04:40] <cafuego> *spin*
[04:40] <Amaranth> Dr_Fate: i dunno what those are in ubuntu
[04:40] <wolfjb> what package do I need to get the kernel headers that match my installed kernel? (2.6.10)?
[04:40] <toad3030> thx
[04:40] <lunitik> toad3030, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo
[04:40] <Amaranth> wolfjb: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:40] <wolfjb> the only package I can find seems to be for 2.6.7 or something
[04:40] <Burgundavia> lunitik, that is a deprecated page
[04:41] <wolfjb> Amaranth: thanks, I'll try that
[04:41] <Amaranth> wolfjb: make sure you use backticks, not quotes
[04:41] <Burgundavia> lunitik, RestrictedFormats is better
[04:41] <mark> hi, you guys are gonna hate me, but i just installed 5.04 on a machine from scratch, and am getting no sound at all.  i checked the volume and have been mucking around in alsamixer turning stuff up and looking through online help and no luck.  i've got an ensoniq soundscape (fairly generic), and everything else about this install has been super easy, even for a novice like me...  any advice would be appreciated!
[04:41] <crimsun> mark: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:41] <Ohpoo> La_PaRCa, I find that mozilla is more stable then firefox.
[04:41] <lunitik> Burgundavia, appears to still be valid... but yeah, what you said is actually what I was thinking of...
[04:42] <mark> ok
[04:42] <La_PaRCa> Ohpoo, probably, but its a bunch heavier
[04:42] <wolfjb> mark: I had that problem once, I would turn stuff all the way up but still no sound until someone pointed out to me I still had it muted... have you checked to make sure you turned off the mute?
[04:43] <Amaranth> !sound
[04:43] <ubotu> sound is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:43] <lunitik> Burgundavia, what I pointed to is actually what I do as a matter of fact... although, I use /usr/lib/win32 as thats what Totem looks at first...
[04:44] <mark> is the mute just in with the volume control?
[04:44] <mark> please god dont let me be that dense...
[04:44] <lunitik> haha @ this channel finally getting a bot  :)
[04:44] <lunitik> !owner
[04:44] <Burgundavia> lunitik, w32codecs makes it invalid
[04:44] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, lunitik
[04:44] <Burgundavia> lunitik, cafuego owns it
[04:44] <wolfjb> mark: in alsamixer, it is usually one of the switches below the volume control you are adjusting
[04:44] <lunitik> Burgundavia, w32codecs is just a debian package containing the codecs...
[04:45] <Fazer> Hello, does anyone know how to get the font Tahoma
[04:45] <Burgundavia> lunitik, yes
[04:45] <Fazer> or Tohamo whatever, its called.
[04:45] <wolfjb> mark: if it is the text mode version, select a chanel and hit the 'm' key, look for [MM]  at the bottom of the screen it should disappear if it isn't muted
[04:45] <mark> ubotu: is that just for multiple sounds or sounds period.  i cant hear anything, even if just one sound
[04:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, mark
[04:46] <lunitik> Burgundavia, unneeded, and it tends to be badly maintained... I have better luck with doing it manually... when they all go to the same place, its not necissary to have apt know about it...
[04:46] <Amaranth> !fixsound
[04:46] <ubotu> methinks fixsound is http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[04:46] <mark> cripse im talking to a bot now (slaps self)
[04:46] <Amaranth> where is this junk coming from and where is the link to the wiki?
[04:46] <Ohpoo> mark, lol it's ok
[04:46] <nickrud> !sound
[04:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:46] <Amaranth> mark: everyone does it once
[04:46] <Amaranth> mark: it even gives human like answers when you say something it doesn't understand ;)
[04:47] <wolfjb> back in a bit
[04:47] <lunitik> cafuego, is the bot a blootbot (ala dpkg and apt...)?
[04:47] <Dr_Fate> ,y problem is I'm using hdparm.conf and it says upon boot, no device /dev/hdc
[04:47] <Dr_Fate> yet still enables dma on it
[04:47] <Amaranth> lunitik: Yes.
[04:47] <crimsun> mark: did you paste the amixer output?
[04:47] <Dr_Fate> how can I stop this notice of error?
[04:47] <mark> wolf: after twiddling in alsamixer (text version) do I need to restart my session or anything like that?
[04:47] <Amaranth> !info mozilla-firefox
[04:47] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 8581 kB, Installed size: 24100 kB
[04:47] <Amaranth> lunitik: See?
[04:47] <Fazer> Does anyone know how to fix up the fonts so that it looks more like it is on Windows?
[04:48] <halibut> how can I format an ntfs partition from linux?
[04:48] <mark> crimsun: i pasted it to paste.ubuntulinux.nl  should i put it here too?  seemed big
[04:48] <lunitik> Amaranth, hmm... did he post the code for it? I was trying to get a blootbot going a while ago, but the package was badly maintained and I couldn't figure out how to get it running currectly...
[04:48] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, that is normal: hdparm is run during startup before the cdrom kernel module is loaded
[04:48] <file> would u like to touch my hairy package?
[04:49] <lunitik> file, not funny.
[04:49] <Amaranth> lunitik: *shrug*
[04:49] <file> hax
[04:49] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, how can I have hdparm.conf run after the kernel module is loaded?
[04:49] <lunitik> Amaranth, ahh... guess I can wait till cafuego gets back... thanks though  :)
[04:49] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, you can rerun hdparm later; a sec
[04:50] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, can't I also just change it runlevel?
[04:50] <Fazer> Does anyone know where i can get tahoma font?
[04:51] <Agamotto> Fazer:  sudo apt-get install msfonts
[04:54] <Amaranth> Fazer: You can't.
[04:54] <Agamotto> Ohpoo, it isn't in that package?
[04:54] <crimsun> mark: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on
[04:54] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, you can do sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/hdparm /etc/rc2.d/S91hdparm ; that's a hack, but it will work
[04:54] <Amaranth> Fazer: Installing msttcorefonts will get you andale mono, arial black, arial, comic sans, courier new, georgia, impact, times new roman, trebuchet, verdana, and webdings
[04:54] <mark> crimsun: i think it is, but will check
[04:54] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, thank you
[04:54] <halibut> how can I remove an ntfs partition (to be marked as free space) from linux then?
[04:54] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, it just runs the same hdparm configuration again, after the cdrom module is loaded
[04:54] <Amaranth> halibut: gparted
[04:54] <Fazer> Amaranth: But Agamotto suggested something...
[04:54] <mark> crimsun:  was off, now it's on, do i need to restart my session or anything like that to commit the change?
[04:54] <Fazer> Agamotto: Actually I remember installing that package some time ago but I don't think that has Tahoma...does it have it on yours?
[04:54] <Amaranth> Fazer: And admitted he was wrong less than a minute later. :)
[04:54] <Agamotto> Fazer:  Nope, I just checked
[04:54] <Amaranth> msfonts doesn't exist, it's msttcorefonts
[04:54] <crimsun> mark: nope, just test with an audio program
[04:54] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, it seems to run again anyway as dma is enabled after boot. I want it not to run at all before the kernel modules load, how to do that?
[04:54] <Fazer> I was reading the forums and someone seems to have it.
[04:54] <Fazer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=243213&postcount=2
[04:54] <arathald> each time i reconfigure xserver, i set it to run 1600x1200@60hz, but whenever I go to the resolution settings, it goes back to 1280x1024 (i down it to 1024x768 cause 1280x1024 is alll out of shape on the mon i have setup for 1600x1200, my windows res)
[04:54] <Ohpoo> Agamotto, oh sorry what was you talking about?
[04:54] <erisco> i can never seem to locate files in the terminal....
[04:54] <erisco> i am trying to upload something to mysql
[04:54] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, I'm not sure why you would want to do that: why not have your hard disks optomized as early as possble (unless I'm totally missing your intent)
[04:54] <lunitik> erisco, whereis is your friend
[04:54] <mark> crimsun:  no dice...
[04:54] <Belutz> erisco: try using slocate ?
[04:55] <erisco> and the path should be /home/eric/pet.txt
[04:55] <erisco> but it won't locate it
[04:55] <erisco> slocate?
[04:55] <crimsun> mark: ok, mute External Amplifier and Headphones
[04:55] <Belutz> slocate <filename>
[04:55] <Amaranth> Fazer: You can copy it from a windows install, sure.
[04:55] <mark> crimsun:  will do
[04:55] <cafuego> erisco: Did you run pdatedb'since creating that file?
[04:55] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, it appears they are trying to optimize the HDs just a tad too early?  Do you have a good video card?
[04:56] <Amaranth> PurpleMotion: This is why we aren't on dalnet. :)
[04:56] <cafuego> Dr_Fate: Put "sleep 1" near the top of the hdparm init script.
[05:02] <arathald> Ohpoo: nv geforce 3
[05:02] <wolfjb> woot! firegl update worked
[05:02] <Fazer> Amaranth: oh sweet, where do I copy it to though?
[05:02] <PurpleMotion> Amaranth:  tis a shame... twas once hands down the best network around
[05:02] <Ohpoo> arathald, wow that's a good one
[05:02] <Dr_Fate> cafuego, sounds good
[05:02] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, look at /etc/rcS.d ; that's where hdparm is called from initally. you can change the startup order there, if you really need to
[05:02] <Amaranth> Fazer: Open nautilus, hit Ctrl-L, and type 'fonts:///'
[05:02] <mark> crimsun: no dice...
[05:02] <Amaranth> Fazer: Drag and drop them in there.
[05:02] <mark> crimsun:  what's the command to list sound devices?
[05:02] <Fazer> Amaranth: Ah sweet, thanks
[05:02] <Ohpoo> arathald, so tell me when does it go back to the rez you don't want it to be at?
[05:02] <crimsun> mark: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:02] <mark> crimsun: i checked earlier, and i think it may have said i have 2, which is werid since i only have one
[05:02] <crimsun> (don't paste in here)
[05:02] <mark> crimsun: thanx
[05:02] <arathald> Ohpoo: well, actually, in the gnome res selector, 1280x1024 is the highest, it acts like i told it that that was the highest res
[05:02] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, hdparm is not in my rc5.d
[05:02] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, rcS (as in ess) .d
[05:03] <cafuego> Dr_Fate: Itl be in rc2.d; since Ubuntu boots to runlevel 2 by default.
[05:03] <mark> crimsun:  yeah, to me it looks like its saying there's 2, but it's over my head.  something about a VIA card, and then the ensoniq card info.  i think i have a VIA graphics card maybe, but not audio
[05:03] <Dr_Fate> cafuego, thats weird its in neither???
[05:03] <mark> crimsun:  where can i paste it for you to look at? its only about 5 lines, but they are passing my head like a jet
[05:03] <Ohpoo> arathald, ahh yes I had that problem before. Let me see was the game installed before you made the change?
[05:03] <mark> crimsun: if you wouldn't mind that is
[05:03] <cafuego> Dr_Fate: $EDITOR /etc/init.d/hdparm
[05:03] <crimsun> mark: same pastebin
[05:03] <mark> crimsun:  cool thanx
[05:03] <arathald> Ohpoo: game?
[05:03] <Fazer> Amaranth: I think I will have to do this in Gnome because I am using Xfce
[05:03] <Ohpoo> arathald, lol sorry thought you said game haha you said gnome
[05:03] <vladuz976> can anyone here help me? i have an old HD with windows. can i somehow hook it up and configure grub so i can dual boot from two different hard drives?
[05:03] <mark> crimsun: just sent it
[05:03] <Ohpoo> arathald, hmmm did you try restarting you system. Just an idea
[05:03] <s0cks> Is there a program I could use to reformat this NTFS partition without losing ANY of the data contained within? All I wish to do is shrink the partition.
[05:03] <cafuego> vladuz976: yes, but Windows *needs* to be the primary master.
[05:03] <arathald> Ohpoo: ya did. brb- i just ran the reconfigure agn and my mouse pointer disappeared- gonna log out and back in
[05:03] <Ohpoo> ok cool
[05:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> is there any way to dual boot when installing XP after linux?
[05:03] <cafuego> s0cks: reformatting *equals* deleting all data
[05:03] <vladuz976> cafuego: so only way is to keep plugging in and out?
[05:03] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm is the link that is run
[05:03] <s0cks> cafuego : Well then, can I SHRINK the partition?
[05:03] <cafuego> MrGardenHoseMan: Yes, it involves a rescue disk and undoing the damage windows did to the MBR.
[05:03] <crimsun> mark: you have two sound chipsets, the ensoniq and the onboard.
[05:03] <crimsun> mark: I presume you wish to use the ensoniq?
[05:03] <Agamotto> MrGardenHoseMan:  Not easily, no.  Windows presumes it is the first and/or only occupant of the MBR
[05:03] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, # /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm
[05:03] <Dr_Fate> bash: /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm: No such file or directory
[05:03] <cafuego> s0cks: Yep. First, run a disk check; degrag; run a disk check. Then you can use 'parted' to resize
[05:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> so i'm fucked then?
[05:04] <cafuego> MrGardenHoseMan: No, restoring the MBR is trivial.
[05:04] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S07hdparm, should point at /etc/init.d/hdparm
[05:04] <s0cks> cafuego : Problem.
[05:04] <mark> crimsun:  yes. but really whatever works would be ok.
[05:04] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, the link is missing
[05:04] <crimsun> mark: well, right now the onboard (Via) is the one being used...
[05:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> actually the MBR is GRUB's territory, windows hasn't touched it yet
[05:04] <s0cks> cafuego : I'm RUNNING windows on a 150 gig partition. I need to run Windows on a 110 gig partition.
[05:04] <mark> crimsun:  but the onboard one is not accessible from outside the case yet
[05:04] <s0cks> cafuego : Can I do it through windows?
[05:04] <cafuego> s0cks: Yes. Just checka dn defrag it (from within windows) and then resize from the Ubuntu CD.
[05:04] <crimsun> mark: ok, then let's do this: lsmod|grep ^snd_ens
[05:04] <mark> crimsun: is there a way to disable the via or do I have to make some holes in the back of the case
[05:05] <MrGardenHoseMan> any tutorials on how to do this the hard way?
[05:05] <crimsun> mark: what is the output from that command?
[05:05] <bimberi> MrGardenHoseMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:05] <mark> crimsun:  will do
[05:05] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[05:05] <cafuego> s0cks: There is no implied or other warranry on that resize operation.
[05:05] <bimberi> yw :)
[05:05] <Fazer> crimsun: do you know where fonts:/// points to?
[05:05] <cafuego> s0cks: it *may* destroy all your data.
[05:05] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, it exists on both by hoary and breezy installs. If you don't have it, well, a bug or something
[05:05] <nickrud> *my
[05:05] <s0cks> cafuego : FUCK!
[05:06] <mark> crimsun: snd_ens1371            22624  0
[05:06] <PurpleMotion> a duck
[05:06] <cafuego> s0cks: If you can risk that, disks are cheep.
[05:06] <crimsun> Fazer: all the defined font paths iirc
[05:06] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, weird how the hell is it running at boot then without the link?
[05:06] <cafuego> s/can/can't/
[05:06] <crimsun> mark: ok, go ahead and do this: sudo modprobe -r snd_ens1371
[05:06] <Fazer> crimsun: sorry?
[05:06] <mark> crimsun: will do
[05:06] <s0cks> cafuego : My main problem with it is that I need all this data for my job.
[05:06] <cafuego> s0cks: Just get a new hdd then
[05:06] <crimsun> Fazer: your Xorg conffile has font paths defined
[05:07] <s0cks> cafuego : Can you send 50 bucks to my paypal account?
[05:07] <Fazer> crimsun: Ah, I see
[05:07] <zxmpulse> hello
[05:07] <Fazer> crimsun: Mind telling me where the .conf file would be ?
[05:07] <Ohpoo> I could use 50bucks too
[05:07] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, another link. I just have a decent grip on how the debian/ubuntu devels use the sysv init, expect that link.
[05:07] <Fazer> x11/ ?
[05:07] <cafuego> s0cks: Why would I do that? *YOU* have a job!
[05:07] <crimsun> Fazer: /etc/X11/xorg.conf. You don't need to change it, though...
[05:07] <Fazer> er xorg.conf?
[05:07] <mark> crimsun: just did it
[05:07] <Fazer> crimsun: ah yeah, found it.   Buy me a hard drive, and I'll get a new car.
[05:09] <mark> crimsun:  will do
[05:09] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, but one had to exist in order for it to have run
[05:09] <aru> how about you guys maintain your car and language in offtopic
[05:09] <mark> crimsun:  wait a sec, there was no output.  had to do it twice to be sure
[05:09] <Burgundavia> s0cks, please remember the code of conduct
[05:09] <cafuego> s0cks: if you _can't_ lose that data, you'll need a new HD. No amount of getting angry with _me_ is going to change that.
[05:10] <crimsun> mark: ok, then you can do this: sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx
[05:10] <mark> crimsun: will do
[05:10] <Zoot> would anyone happen to know if Xorg spinning CPU at 99.9% is a known issue?
[05:10] <cafuego> s0cks: You're more than werlcome to risk a resize and I'm sure it works fine in 98 out of 100 cases. Just be warned it *may* fail.
[05:11] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, a quick primer (and a grossly oversimplifed one, since it's the one I use) the kernel calls init, which runs the links rcS.d, and then calls the ones in rc2.d (normal startup). Follow those, and you'll see where hdparm is getting called.
[05:11] <mark> crimsun:  i got "FATAL: Module snd_via82xx is in use."
[05:11] <bpilgrim1979> test
[05:11] <Fazer> crimsun: when I have copied over the font, do I have to restart anything?
[05:11] <Ohpoo> arathald, welcome back
[05:11] <arathald> Ohpoo: well, I reconfigured xserver again, and this time it workes, and now im up at my full 1600x1200
[05:11] <crimsun> mark: hmm, are you _sure_ that lsof command had no output? (lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* )
[05:11] <crimsun> Fazer: no
[05:12] <Ohpoo> arathald, cheers!
[05:12] <mark> crimsun:  let me try one more time
[05:12] <Fazer> crimsun: ah okay.
[05:12] <arathald> Ohpoo: yeah, thanks anyways
[05:12] <Dr_Fate> cafuego, nickrud , I've made this link, and put sleep 1 in the file
[05:12] <Dr_Fate> found them
[05:12] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, it was in rc.d and rc.6!
[05:12] <arathald> Ohpoo: now i have to figure out how to get my dual monitors working :P
[05:12] <Ohpoo> arathald, I have no idea on that one :)
[05:13] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, and rc0.d ??
[05:13] <arathald> Ohpoo: I had dual on windows (im on dual boot) and that really screwed up the installation the first time cause the primary system was my secondary windows
[05:13] <arathald> Ohpoo: so i had to physically remove it and reinstall ubuntu
[05:13] <mark> crimsun:  i don't get it, i just typed the command, no output, but when I cut and pasted, I got output.  and I swear to god no typos.  anyways, pasting now
[05:14] <Ohpoo> arathald, ouch
[05:14] <mark> crimsun: just pasted.  thanx
[05:14] <Dr_Fate> cafuego, in /etc/init.d/rc0.d and rc6.d they were named K75hdparm wtf is that?
[05:14] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, those are all kill (shutdown) calls to the scripts in /etc/init.d/ ; 6 is shutdown, and 0 is reboot
[05:14] <Dr_Fate> oh
[05:15] <Dr_Fate> nickrud, I'm goin gto reboot now, and see what happens
[05:15] <cafuego> Dr_Fate: They're just links to the same script. The K (or S) and the number control when they run and in what order.
[05:16] <crimsun> mark: ah, esd. Ok, go to System> Preferences> Sounds> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[05:16] <transgress> who knows how to make totem see my w32codecs?
[05:16] <mark> crimsun: done
[05:17] <Ohpoo> transgress, did you install totem-xine?
[05:17] <transgress> Ohpoo: no.
[05:17] <crimsun> mark: now that lsof command should return nothing
[05:17] <Ohpoo> transgress, mine didn't work eaither untill I installed totem-xine
[05:17] <mark> crimsun:  yes, just reran it and nothing
[05:18] <digitalfox> is there a plan for an XF86Config frontend in Breezy?
[05:18] <transgress> Ohpoo: thanks for the tip
[05:19] <Ohpoo> transgress, np
[05:19] <crimsun> mark: ok, now sudo modprobe -r snd_via82xx
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> the package "Totem" is a metapackage that has nothing in it.  By default it installs totem-gstreamer, which uses the gstreamer libraries to add multimedia support (gstreamer0.8-plugins).  You can replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine to use the xine engine instead, which seems to understand the codecs
[05:19] <Burgundavia> digitalfox, you mean a gtk one?
[05:19] <cafuego> digitalfox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:19] <digitalfox> yes
[05:19] <Burgundavia> digitalfox, there is nothing officially planned
[05:19] <digitalfox> dang
[05:19] <mark> crimsun:  it returned "FATAL: Module snd_via82x not found."
[05:19] <digitalfox> it is needed
[05:19] <Agamotto> What, praytell, is Breezy?
[05:20] <crimsun> mark: you missed an 'x'
[05:20] <digitalfox> Agamotto, next release of Ubuntu
[05:20] <cafuego> There is no reason to assume $USER knows how to configure X any better than a piece of perl script ;-)
[05:20] <Burgundavia> Agamotto, the next version of Ubuntu, due for release in Oct 2005
[05:20] <Agamotto> Ahhh
[05:20] <Agamotto> That soon....
[05:20] <Ohpoo> tiglionabbit, cool thanks for info. Now i know how it works
[05:20] <Burgundavia> cafuego, a nice gtk dialog would be nice
[05:20] <digitalfox> cafuego, I don't want to have to go into my xorg.conf and manually uncomment DontZap
[05:20] <cafuego> From experience I'd say perl know better 95% of the time.
[05:20] <mark> crimsun:  d'oh!  my bad...  it returned: "FATAL: Module snd_via82xx is in use."
[05:20] <digitalfox> which is something that shouldn't be enabled by default anyway
[05:21] <digitalfox> cafuego, what happens when the user puts in a new card?
[05:21] <digitalfox> also, Xorg should have a fallback driver
[05:21] <digitalfox> but that's more on Xorg's end I'm sure
[05:21] <Agamotto> digitafox:  I am sure it will be there in the next few iterations
[05:21] <digitalfox> it should always drop back to vesa when the "right" driver breaks
[05:21] <crimsun> mark: still? What does that lsof command return?
[05:21] <cafuego> digitalfox: Now you're assuming vesa always works.
[05:21] <Burgundavia> digitalfox, there was a post to the ubuntu-devel list about one
[05:21] <Burgundavia> cafuego, vesa almost always works
[05:22] <cafuego> Maybe xvfb
[05:22] <cafuego> Burgundavia: *almost*
[05:22] <mark> crimsun: it is not returning anything
[05:22] <digitalfox> xvfb would be the tertiary fallback :p
[05:22] <digitalfox> that's... way too primitive XD
[05:22] <Agamotto> xvfb.... ick
[05:22] <dek> HOLA
[05:22] <Burgundavia> regardless of what it does, any graphical utilty must not leave someone with a broken X
[05:22] <digitalfox> <selected driver> --> vesa --> vga --> xvfb
[05:22] <digitalfox> I agree.
[05:23] <cafuego> Burgundavia: Hmm. There goes breezy out the window ;-)
[05:23] <Razor-X> I can't wait to have my own mailserver ;)
[05:23] <cafuego> Oh, interesting.
[05:23] <nickrud> Razor-X, use exim, it's simpler ;
[05:24] <cafuego> firefox on breezy appears to have lost all menus.
[05:24] <mark> crimsun:  just dblchking you meant the "lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*" command
[05:24] <Razor-X> nickrud: so? meh
[05:24] <crimsun> mark: yep
[05:24] <mark> crimsun: yeah its returning nothing now
[05:24] <Razor-X> qmail is powerful, andi 'll either figure this out or flounder trying
[05:24] <nickrud> gotta love that scripting work
[05:24] <Razor-X> s/andi 'll/and i'll/
[05:24] <Razor-X> i'm _hoping_ I don't do the latter
[05:24] <crimsun> mark: ok, let's go ahead and do this, then: echo "options snd-via82xx index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:25] <cafuego> Razor-X: Why don't you pick one that won't require recompiling whenever there's a security update?
[05:25] <Razor-X> cafuego: because i've heard a lot about qmail, I guess
[05:25] <cafuego> (eg: has a decent license?)
[05:25] <Burgundavia> digitalfox, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-July/009284.html
[05:25] <cafuego> Razor-X: <heh> Have you heard more about Windows than about qmail?
[05:25] <mark> crimsun: ok
[05:25] <Razor-X> cafuego: ;)
[05:25] <Burgundavia> digitalfox, and http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-July/009293.html
[05:25] <Razor-X> you got me there
[05:26] <cafuego> Razor-X: What sort of mail system you going to run?
[05:26] <mark> crimsun: it returned that string in quotes
[05:26] <benplaut> darn
[05:26] <digitalfox> Burgundavia, thanks
[05:26] <benplaut> you can't use bold in your nick :P
[05:26] <Razor-X> cafuego: a single user one
[05:26] <Razor-X> it's going to be pour moi
[05:26] <Razor-X> and no-one else
[05:26] <crimsun> mark: good. I think it's easiest now to simply reboot.
[05:27] <mark> crimsun: ok,  brb..  and thanx for yr help
[05:27] <ericvw> can someone help me get my firewire working in ubuntu?
[05:28] <cafuego> Alright. Time to get to work fater 5 days of doing nothing.
[05:29] <Christophe971>  wow so much people
[05:29] <ericvw> i need some assistance with getting my firewire working; any help would be appreciated
[05:29] <nickrud> most of aren't really here tho
[05:29] <Christophe971> kikdijon> ey wassup
[05:29] <erisco> hello, i was wondering how to check if my graphics card is installed?
[05:29] <erisco> any terminal command for that?
[05:30] <Razor-X> erisco: i'm pretty sure it's installed if you're using X
[05:30] <nickrud> erisco, sudo lspci -v will tell you pretty much all about cards plugged into your bus
[05:30] <arathald> how do I login as root? I tried and the password I have (the one i use for sudo) doesn't work for logging into root
[05:30] <Christophe971> how old is the Gcard
[05:30] <kikdijon> Christophe971, > tien, salu
[05:31] <jazzanova> i have a dvd that i can't play. i can play other dvds. what should i do ?
[05:31] <Christophe971> kikdijon> in english!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:31] <_frank> It's ALIVE!!!! my wlan card was pretty painless to setup! (Atheros chipset chosen on purpose) but the settings don't seem to stick after I leave kcontrol. If I can't figure it out , at least I have you guys so everything should go well.
[05:31] <kikdijon> Christophe971, > ah ouais, sorry lol
[05:31] <troy> are there any instructions for creating a custom install disk? (EG: tweak install packages)
[05:31] <mark> crimsun: you are the man!  thanks so much!  sound is working now!
[05:31] <Ohpoo> arathald, why do you want to login a root?
[05:31] <nickrud> jazzanova, use it as a coaster?
[05:31] <Ohpoo> arathald, as
[05:31] <ericvw> how can iget my firewire to work?
[05:31] <arathald> Ohpoo: to edit my xorg.conf
[05:31] <ericvw> i have it built in, but ubuntu doesn't seem to be recognizing it
[05:31] <jazzanova> nickrud: why wouldn't it play ? its a new dvd.
[05:32] <ericvw> (out of the box that is)
[05:32] <racoon97> ouais quoi qui y a d'exceptionnel ici hein ?!!!
[05:32] <Ohpoo> arathald, #sudo gedit then the path works
[05:33] <mark> crimsun: i'm sure i'll be back as I fine new stuff to break ;)  but seriously, thanks a ton.  My wife was seriously starting to doubt my repeated "No, it's better than windows!"
[05:33] <Burgundavia> racoon97, #ubuntu-fr
[05:33] <arathald> Ohpoo: ok, thx
[05:33] <Ohpoo> arathald, np
[05:33] <nickrud> jazzanova, a bad joke, I'm not really up on the ins and outs of illegally reading dvd
[05:33] <nickrud> s
[05:33] <Tribune> j #kubuntu
[05:33] <crimsun> mark: excellent
[05:33] <toran> hey guys, is there any software I could use to edit an mpeg file?
[05:33] <jazzanova> why is it illegal ?
[05:33] <jazzanova> whats illegal about it ?
[05:33] <mark> good night everyone, and praise jah for this forum!
[05:34] <Une-ga-dihi> cafuego:
[05:34] <jazzanova> if i was running windows, would i be able to play it ?
[05:34] <Ohpoo> arathald, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is it
[05:34] <racoon97> Burgundavia> ah ca va hein .. si pon peu pas rigoler de temps en temps  lol
[05:34] <Dr_Fate> cafuego: whats that sleep parameter again, I keep getting invalid seperator?
[05:34] <Ohpoo> arathald, #sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:34] <Tribune> hi. how to sudo apt-get all ubuntu package?
[05:34] <arathald> Ohpoo: ya- got it- thx
[05:35] <Ohpoo> arathald, np :)
[05:35] <arathald> Ohpoo: and yes, i did back it up first :P
[05:35] <InvertedDonkey> i have just installed ubuntu and was wondering if there was any way to move the screen display to the left because it is off center
[05:35] <Ohpoo> arathald, oops forgot to mention that haha
[05:35] <Ohpoo> arathald, hmm also I think it backs it up auto when you save it
[05:35] <arathald> Ohpoo: hey, i may be clueless in 'nix, but ive been on win and dos since before i can remember
[05:36] <_frank> InvertedDonkey: probablt with monitor settings on the monitor itself
[05:36] <Ohpoo> arathald, but not sure
[05:36] <Ohpoo> arathald, hehe yes I remember playing games in dos :)
[05:36] <InvertedDonkey> good call
[05:37] <InvertedDonkey> thanks
[05:37] <cs378> is there a way to see chinese characters in application like beep-media-player? cuz my desktop windows mp3s is all in chinese.
[05:38] <ericvw> can someone help me get my firewire working?
[05:38] <Dr_Fate> nickrud: do you know the proper syntax for the sleep parameter in hdparm.conf
[05:39] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, you probably would put your sleep (delay) in /etc/init.d/hdparm, in the startup section. Personally, I don't think that's something you want to do
[05:40] <cs378> i have searched the ubuntuforum but no luck
[05:40] <Nomad_1> Is there a program native to ubuntu for checking your system's temperatures?
[05:40] <n1xt3r> ericv: I think noone will answer because you haven't proved that you've done your research, by asking the same question repeatedly. My advice, start with google.com and mailing lists
[05:40] <ericvw> thanks
[05:42] <jazzanova> i am having trouble getting skype to work, it can't write to the audio device.
[05:42] <Agamotto> Nomad_1:  I don't know if it is considered native, but I use gkrellm for my monitoring
[05:43] <oni_> my girlfriend is getting problems with a PS/2 mouse
[05:43] <oni_> it doesn't move, somebody know ho to fix it?
[05:43] <jazzanova> she needs a joystick
[05:43] <jazzanova> :)
[05:43] <oni_>
[05:43] <nickrud> jazzanova, maybe will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28sound%29
[05:44] <Agamotto> oni_:  As stupid as it sounds, did you start by cleaning it?
[05:44] <Nomad_1> I was looking at gkrellm but it seems only to support I386. Atleast that's the only arch. that I've seen on the site. (Mind you I didn't look too hard and got frustrated after looking for a dpkg or RPM for the i86_64 arch. and wasn't having any luck)
[05:44] <nickrud> lol, get out the eraser :)
[05:44] <oni_> he it's not the problem, we've tried 2 ps/2 mouses, same problem, the cursor doesn' move
[05:44] <black13> any ideas what causes The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
[05:45] <Razor-X> hmmmm
[05:45] <black13> Error: Cannot open "compiled/server-0.xkm"
[05:45] <Dr_Melectaus> Whats a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use
[05:45] <transgress> http://www.aeonflux.com/  can anyone load that site properly?  i only see about 1/3 of it and the rest is gray
[05:45] <deprave> what are some fun things to install and play with on ubuntu?
[05:46] <oni_> hey, anyone know why ps/2 mouses doesn't work in ubuntu?
[05:46] <Nomad_1> Another problem for me is I haven't taken the time to read up on how to install under linux. That's why I'm looking for a native solution :).
[05:46] <Razor-X> when telling qmail my hostname, do I have to have an external address, save my IP, or will lack of that limit email to only local?
[05:46] <jazzanova> thanks
[05:46] <black13> i love that show ...
[05:47] <Agamotto> oni_:  Can you be more specific?  What mouse precisely?
[05:47] <Nomad_1> (Note: I have the docs I need to read either bookmarked or stored on my computer for basic linux usage. Just need to take the time to read them :). )
[05:47] <Ohpoo> wow apt-get is powerfull! Synaptic seems about the same too hehe. But which one is better?
[05:47] <nickrud> Ohpoo, synaptic, hands down
[05:47] <Razor-X> Ohpoo: the command-line is generally better in power
[05:47] <Razor-X> try aptiude though, it's better than both, IMO ;)
[05:47] <oni_> Agamotto: it's an A4Tech, but I think it's not the model
[05:48] <Agamotto> Same thing.  Synpaptic is a graphic front-end for apt-get, which lists whatever you filter with
[05:48] <Razor-X> nickrud: any ideas on the hostname thing?
[05:48] <nickrud> synaptic has aptitude, Raptoid
[05:48] <nickrud> synaptic has aptitude, Razor-X ,sorry Raptoid
[05:48] <Razor-X> hehe
[05:48] <Dr_Fate> cafuego, sleep parameter?
[05:48] <jasoncohen> Ohpoo, it depends if you like the command line or not
[05:48] <Razor-X> nickrud: any ideas on the hostname thing? because i'm pretty sure you need that in exim
[05:48] <nickrud> Razor-X, no, I use exim for the prior work
[05:48] <Razor-X> hmmm.....
[05:48] <Agamotto> Nomad_1:  At least you are trying to do it yourself, instead of just whining "it's broken, fix it"
[05:49] <nickrud> brainless, me, exim coddles
[05:49] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: try and compile it yourself
[05:49] <jasoncohen> Ohpoo, synaptic is a very nice gui for installing applications but apt-get can also install build dependencies and install & build from source (if you have deb-src lines enabled). you can do everything through apt-get that you can do with synaptic and more
[05:49] <jasoncohen> for most users synaptic is the better choice
[05:49] <Ohpoo> jasoncohen, coll
[05:49] <Ohpoo> jasoncohen, cool
[05:49] <Dr_Melectaus> Whats a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use and has a GUI
[05:50] <Nomad_1> Agamotto: Thanks, I try as best I can to be self relient when it comes to Linux but there's times when either I'm too lazy or frustrated to do the research and just come here and ask.
[05:50] <nickrud> jasoncohen, then, use aptitude for apt-get
[05:50] <jasoncohen> aptitude and apt-get are both frontends
[05:50] <Razor-X> aptitude is much better than apt-get, IMHO
[05:50] <jasoncohen> what do you mean use aptitude for apt-get
[05:50] <Razor-X> yeah, they're both frontends to dpkg
[05:50] <Razor-X> along with the horribly deprecated dselect
[05:50] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: I have next to no linux experience. Compiling under it seems like something I shouldn't mess around with until I'm more familier with the structure of a linux system
[05:50] <black13> Razor-X did you get that thing i sent you?
[05:50] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: aptitude is another package manager frontend
[05:50] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, i know
[05:51] <jasoncohen> i've used all 3
[05:51] <Agamotto> Nomad_1:  I can understand... I used to be an Amiga user
[05:51] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: now would be a nice time to do some reading ;)
[05:51] <shammy> does anyone here have ubuntu running with an ati radion x700 pro video card?
[05:51] <Razor-X> but, after that, it will be nicer
[05:51] <shammy> i have come to the conclusion that it is not supported by X very well at all
[05:51] <nickrud> I used dselect a few times, then discovered aptitude. I really like the automatic package tracking
[05:51] <Razor-X> compilation has become dog simple these days (unless you're compiling qmail, like me)
[05:51] <maxy_noob> Is there a syncronization possibility in ubuntu as in windows?
[05:51] <Razor-X> dselect was horrible
[05:51] <jasoncohen> nickrud, what do you mean automatic package tracking?
[05:51] <maxy_noob> I'd like to sync my laptop files with those on my desktop
[05:52] <Dr_Melectaus> could someone tell me a good FTP server i can put on my ubuntu laptop, thats free, simple, and easy to use
[05:52] <Dr_Melectaus> and has a gui
[05:52] <jasoncohen> dselect is nice if you want to install the same packages on two machines
[05:52] <Razor-X> Dr_Melectaus: very few servers in Linux use a GUI
[05:52] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: Lol, you're right. But a question that comes to mind that I wouldn't know where to find the answer to: Would compiling in myself, but without making any changes to the code, solve the arch. compatability issue or would that be a solution?
[05:52] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: compilation should solve the problem
[05:52] <Nomad_1> Agamotto: What do you mean by Amiga user?
[05:53] <Razor-X> and then, you can make a .deb for the rest of the community ;)
[05:53] <nickrud> jasoncohen, if I install kubuntu-desktop, (and it's dependencies) through aptitude, if I decide to uninstall kubuntu-desktop, aptitude will deinstall all the packages installed to support kubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <Dr_Melectaus> Razor-X, is there any with one, or one that you can  add a GUI to?
[05:53] <Razor-X> Agamotto: Amiga's rock, no?
[05:53] <bimberi> maxy_noob: "unison" is worth a look for that purpose
[05:53] <Agamotto> I used to own and program the Amiga computers
[05:53] <Razor-X> Dr_Melectaus: again, not that I know of
[05:53] <Razor-X> I use vsftpd
[05:53] <Razor-X> but, it's CLI only
[05:53] <Dr_Melectaus> ok
[05:53] <jesusfish> there an amarok 1.3-b2 deb around anywhere?
[05:53] <nickrud> that is, it provides automatic removal of unused packages
[05:53] <jasoncohen> nickrud, really....cool
[05:53] <Rusty1> Dr_Melectaus: perhaps proftp and a webmin front end
[05:53] <maxy_noob> bimberi, when I hear "worth a look" it usually means: less than perfect.
[05:54] <Belutz> nickrud: hmmm synaptic don't do that i guess
[05:54] <Belutz> nickrud: but aptitude do that? i should've known earlier :D
[05:54] <nickrud> Belutz, I think it's supposed to. I'm not sure if aptitude and synaptic use the same package tracking mechanism, tho
[05:54] <jasoncohen> nickrud, what if you had packages installed prior to intalling kubuntu-desktop that are part of kubuntu-desktop that you don't want to remove?
[05:54] <linlin> I need some reccomendations for easy to use video conversion software.  Mainly what im doing is converting divx and xvid files to dvd-burnable ones.  Ive tried tovid, and it doesnt work.  Any suggestions?
[05:54] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: That suggests to me that gcc (the program I'm assuming would be used for compilation), is an embedded part of the OS. So because my linux installation is configured for the i86_64 arch. the compiler will produce 64-bit programs. Is that correct?
[05:54] <jasoncohen> nickrud, they don't
[05:54] <bimberi> maxy_noob: It means that it's the best utility I've found (which includes rsync)
[05:54] <nickrud> jasoncohen, no, they won't
[05:54] <benplaut> linlin: stop being illegal
[05:54] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: very correct
[05:55] <jasoncohen> i believe synaptic uses apt-get's cache
[05:55] <linlin> how do you know im beling illegal
[05:55] <jasoncohen> if you use aptitude and apt-get together aptitude's cache will get out of sync and it'll try to do some really crazy things
[05:55] <Razor-X> gcc is one of those apps that are pretty embedded in the system
[05:55] <Belutz> nickrud: i was installing kubuntu-desktop, when i uninstall it didn't uninstall all the packages installed with kubuntu-desktop, so i have to uninstalled the rest manually
[05:55] <Razor-X> linlin: if you're using DivX 3, it's illegal
[05:55] <jasoncohen> you can use synaptic and apt-get together but not aptitude and synaptic or apt-get
[05:55] <linlin> they are vhs converted movie that i made when i was on windows
[05:55] <linlin> from my camera
[05:55] <maxy_noob> bimberi, ok thanks
[05:55] <benplaut> oh
[05:55] <nickrud> Belutz, yes, that's why I use aptitude :)
[05:55] <oni_> hey, anyone know why ps/2 mouses doesn't work in ubuntu?
[05:55] <Razor-X> oni_: what kind of mouse?
[05:55] <bimberi> maxy_noob: yw :)
[05:56] <jasoncohen> if aptitude can do that, why doesn't synaptic work with aptitude?
[05:56] <Razor-X> Belutz: that happens?
[05:56] <Belutz> nickrud: *nods*
[05:56] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: Thanks. That helps a lot. But you've given me yet another subject to read about :-p. How to compile something into a package for a specific distro (or set of distros). Like making the gkrellm.deb.
[05:56] <oni_> ps/2, nevermind the model, it's not the problem
[05:56] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: ahhh, there I myself do not know
[05:56] <jasoncohen> Razor-X, so, you only use aptitude? you never use synaptic right?
[05:56] <Belutz> Razor-X: yup... it didn't uninstall all the KDE apps installed with the kubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <oni_> Razor-X: ps/2, nevermind the model, it's not the problem
[05:57] <Razor-X> jasoncohen: used synaptic twice
[05:57] <nickrud> jasoncohen, yes you can, they all use libapt, which uses dpkg: what we're talking about is a bit higher level package management: not consistency of the installation, but the consistency of deinstallation
[05:57] <Razor-X> oni_: that's what i'ld think
[05:57] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: I'll figure it out and if I happen to remember I'll let you know what I come up with, if you'd want me to of course :).
[05:57] <Belutz> Razor-X: i have to eliminate packages with a 'k' in front manually lol
[05:57] <Razor-X> PS/2 is pretty much known
[05:57] <Razor-X> Belutz: how said ;)
[05:57] <jasoncohen> in debian, i tried using aptitude and apt-get together (whichever i felt like using at one at a particular moment) and my aptitude cache got very messed up. aptitude wanted to install programs i had removed for no apparent reason
[05:57] <Razor-X> s/said/sad/
[05:57] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: I wouldn't mind at all, I have half-a-mind to submit my Eterm with ETwin support
[05:58] <Razor-X> and if/when I become a maintainer -- i'll need to know ;)
[05:58] <Belutz> Razor-X, nickrud: man aptitude is adequate enought to learn to use aptitude ?
[05:58] <Belutz> *enough
[05:58] <jasoncohen> nickrud, i know, but i don't know if it's safe to use aptitude and synaptic together. it sure wasn't safe to use aptitude and apt-get together
[05:58] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: Ok, that last bit was greek to me. "Eterm with Etwin support"?
[05:58] <Razor-X> Belutz: much better than the website
[05:58] <jasoncohen> nickrud, it's a known bug of aptitude
[05:58] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: Eterm is a terminal emulator, and twin is a nice curses-based desktop (basically, a desktop in CLI)
[05:59] <Belutz> Razor-X: hmmm ok :D
[05:59] <nickrud> Belutz, /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README
[05:59] <Razor-X> Eterm already has native support for screen (that allows multiple sessions in one term, and detaching), and native twin support can be compiled in
[05:59] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: CLI?
[05:59] <Razor-X> Command Line Interface
[05:59] <nickrud> jasoncohen, no, a known bug of apt-get, which is now depreciated
[05:59] <Nomad_1> ah ok
[05:59] <vader1102> help! lol, I have been trying for hours now and still cannot get my laptop here to see the other workgroup pc's
[06:00] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: Sounds interesting.
[06:00] <Razor-X> nickrud: depreciated \nequal deprecated ;)
[06:00] <Belutz> Razor-X: isn't Command Line Interpreter ?
[06:00] <jasoncohen> nickrud, apt-get is deprecated?
[06:00] <nickrud> Razor-X, lol, spelling
[06:00] <Razor-X> Belutz: no
[06:00] <jasoncohen> nickrud, it's the recommended tool to upgrade ubuntu so it can't be too deprecated :)
[06:00] <kabifff> yay official ubuntu help!
[06:01] <cafuego> stabbing is illegal, isn't it?
[06:01] <Belutz> Razor-X: damn!! i was wrong all this time.... lol
[06:01] <kabifff> can somebody give me a hand?
[06:01] <ofer0> http://singe.rucus.net/blog/archives/270-Gentoo-vs-Ubuntu-vs-Debian.html
[06:01] <nickrud> jasoncohen, yeah, take a look at the sarge release notes
[06:01] <Nomad_1> (off topic question... Is there a keyboard shortcut for helping add a user's name to the beginning of these txt msgs in x-chat?)
[06:01] <jasoncohen> if aptitude has that functionality, why doesn't synaptic?
[06:01] <ofer0> great review of "Gentoo vs Ubuntu vs Debian"
[06:01] <Razor-X> Belutz: Interpreters have nothing to do with command line applications
[06:01] <nickrud> jasoncohen, I've been dancing around that question for a bit myself, maybe someone can answer it for us
[06:02] <Belutz> Razor-X: ic
[06:02] <jasoncohen> nickrud, that's because there was a 3 year gap between woody and sarge and the dependencies changed rapidly and in complex ways. In addition, there were circular dependencies that caused problems on some packages regardless of the package management tool used to upgrade
[06:02] <Belutz> brb guys
[06:02] <Razor-X> just as there is an interface with graphics (the Graphical User Interface -- the GUI) there is one using the command-line (the Command Line Interface -- the CLI)
[06:02] <MobileJess> where can i get a working firefox?
[06:02] <Razor-X> curses is a famous example of a CLI
 DOS is a CLI based OS.
[06:02] <Razor-X> MobileJess: the repos have been fixed
[06:02] <kabifff> So I installed Ubuntu on my USB HD and now whenever I boot, I have a two-fold problem. One, it can't find the kernel, says "Kernel panic" and quits. Also, if I don't have my USB drive connected, it says "grub error 21" and won't boot any further
[06:03] <Razor-X> Nomad_1: yeahp
[06:03] <kabifff> any ideas?
[06:03] <jasoncohen> nickrud, since ubuntu only upgrades from one release to another (you can't upgrade from warty to breezy for example ...and expect things to work), that won't be a problem for ubuntu. apt-get is fine
[06:03] <cafuego> Razor-X: curses isn't technically CLI, as it has no L.
[06:03] <jasoncohen> at least for upgrades
[06:03] <Razor-X> cafuego: but, it's run in the command-line, no?
[06:03] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, there is no particular reason why a warty-->breezy upgrade will not work
[06:03] <Razor-X> because twin doesen't have the L either
[06:03] <bimberi> MobileJess: The info in /topic summarises the process nicely
[06:03] <jasoncohen> i always use apt-get because i find it faster and it will get build dependencies and build from source
[06:04] <Razor-X> twin is like non-GUI X
[06:04] <cafuego> Razor-X: Not neccessarily, no. Curses is more of a GUI without VGA mode.
[06:04] <Razor-X> cafuego: hmmm.... true that
[06:04] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, then, why is it recommended that users upgrade one version at a time?
[06:04] <kabifff> any ideas, fellas?
[06:04] <jasoncohen> *one release
[06:04] <cafuego> Razor-X: it's got widgets and everything
[06:04] <Seq> cafuego: character-based gui is what i've always heard it called
[06:04] <Nomad_1> Razor-X: Thanks for you time man. Later.
[06:04] <nickrud> jasoncohen, I'm not dissing apt-get, just stroking aptitude :)
[06:04] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, i don't know if that's true
[06:04] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, where have you seen that?
[06:05] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, i'll get you the link in the second
[06:05] <Razor-X> cafuego: we need a name for that
[06:05] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, this is why i think you're wrong
[06:05] <saintFrance> hey guys i just installed ubuntu right now
[06:05] <cafuego> Razor-X: "fast and portable"
[06:05] <Razor-X> cafuego: FAP? ;)
[06:05] <kabifff> did it work saint france?
[06:05] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, package names change and dummy packages are used when names change. if you skip two versions those dummy packages might not exist
[06:05] <saintFrance> yes
[06:05] <saintFrance> how do i change my resolution?
[06:05] <saintFrance> the ones i want isnt supported i guess
[06:05] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, let's use the example of someone trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy+1
[06:05] <vader1102> does anyone have any clues for me for my workgroup?
[06:05] <ofer0> saintFrance, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <Ohpoo> Ubuntu isnt made for geeks, it is made for your Grandma who is too scared to turn on the computer, or the journalist who doesnt have the time or skills to set up a computer. <---- This guy knows how to pick his fighting words lol :)
[06:06] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, breezy has a dummy package for mozilla-firefox but breezy+1 most likely won't
[06:06] <saintFrance> where is that?
[06:06] <Burgundavia> yes
[06:06] <jasoncohen> so the upgrade wouldn't work
[06:06] <saintFrance> lol i just installed it.. no idea how it works
[06:06] <ofer0> saintFrance, /etc/X11/xorg.conf !!!
[06:06] <bimberi> saintFrance: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[06:06] <Agamotto> Ubuntu is also for those who don't desire to waste 80% of their time configuring things
[06:06] <Agamotto> That said, the tools are there if you decided to do so later
[06:06] <saintFrance> yah it only goes to 1024x768
[06:07] <saintFrance> doesnt it get any higher?
[06:07] <oni_> s**t! it's not a ps/2 , it's a serial COM port!!
[06:07] <kabifff> any ideas then why this is happening if it's so easy to use and install?
[06:07] <oni_> how do I get a COM mouse to work on ubuntu?
[06:07] <bimberi> saintFrance: yes, probably ...
[06:07] <bimberi> !resolution
[06:07] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:07] <deprave> what does bonobo do?
[06:07] <Agamotto> kabifff:  Because nothing descends into manifestation without errors
[06:07] <saintFrance> !resolution
[06:07] <vader1102> oni: did you install with the serial mouse attached?
[06:08] <oni_> yep
[06:08] <bimberi> saintFrance: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:08] <vader1102> and it don't work now?
[06:08] <deprave> !ubuntu bonobo
[06:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, deprave
[06:08] <nickrud> bonobo is a kind of embedding of apps or app data in gnome; I think it's on it's way out
[06:08] <Agamotto> Hmmmm, missed it on the tty1 search I would guess
[06:08] <bimberi> saintFrance: sorry "!resolution" gets a response from the #ubuntu bot
[06:08] <kabifff> that's a little cryptic there, Agamotto
[06:08] <kabifff> :-)
[06:09] <kabifff> any OTHER ideas? this is driving me crazy
[06:09] <Agamotto> Cryptic, no.  Zen, yes
[06:09] <kabifff> touche
[06:09] <Ohpoo> The install was smooth as a babys bum and even autodetected ALL of my hardware unlike Ubuntu. <--- I didn't know the installer was that different?
[06:09] <Agamotto> kabifff:  Restate problem for me again
[06:09] <Ohpoo> Hes talking about debian installer
[06:10] <vader1102> oni: did it work during the install?
[06:10] <kabifff> Agamotto: Ubuntu won't load for anything. It loads the kernel and then says "Kernel Panic, killin INIT" or something close. It works with the live disk and all, just not as a boot. it's on a USB drive, if that helps.
[06:10] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, i can't find the link i was referring to at the moment. I believe it was on the ubuntulinux.org site. I'll try to find it tomorrow\
[06:10] <hopeng-o> im following a tutorial about "compiling wineCVS" on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 , but having problem on sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2 libgtk-1.2-common . it returns no package available, but i already have unviersal apt
[06:11] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, ok
[06:11] <Agamotto> kabifff:  A kernel panic is usually due to a module search failure
[06:11] <jasoncohen> sorry
[06:11] <kabifff> Agamotto: I don't know what that means. How do I fix it, if possible?
[06:11] <ofer0> hopeng-o, i had the same problem, what you should do is:
[06:11] <ofer0> hopeng-o, sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common
[06:11] <Agamotto> kabifff:  I am not sure, but I would assume it would involve a recompile of your kernel
[06:12] <kabifff> hmmmmm
[06:12] <Agamotto> A bit beyond my current skill set
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> you know, ubuntu is a really nice distro
[06:12] <ericvw> alright...so i have found that i need eth1394, ieee1394, and ohci1394 for my firewire; however i am not quite sure what i need to edit so these modules load on boot?  any help/suggestions?
[06:12] <vader1102> bimberi: how is your knoledge on samba and workgroups?
[06:12] <hopeng-o> ofer0, yes tried that
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> I gotta give props
[06:12] <kabifff> Agamotto: ok, dumb it down as best you can. I'm as green as it gets when it comes to anything other than windows. what are you telling me?
[06:12] <ColonelKernel> its debian w more up to date packages
[06:13] <ColonelKernel> other than the bummer ass DNS problem Im exceptionally stoked on it.
[06:13] <ofer0> hopeng-o, it didn`t work? maybe you don`t have the needed sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <deprave> what are some fun things to install and play with on ubuntu?
[06:13] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia,
[06:13] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/releases/document_view
[06:13] <bimberi> vader1102: sketchy at best.  I've seen your questions but don't think I can help sorry
[06:13] <nickrud> ericvw, hotplug should handle loading those modules; if it doesn't, try adding each module on a separate line to /etc/modules
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> deprave: chromium, neverball
[06:13] <ofer0> deprave, Enemy Territories
[06:13] <ericvw> thanks!
[06:13] <saintFrance> hey how do i run commands?
[06:13] <saintFrance> and where?
[06:13] <jasoncohen> "Upgrades are supported from each release to the next. If you wish to skip a release, and then update to the latest one, then it is necessary to update the system from your existing release through each intermediate release to get to the release you wish to run.
[06:13] <vader1102> bimberi: is ok, I know the questions can slip by sometimes
[06:13] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, ok
[06:13] <Agamotto> kabifff:  The kernel panic is due to the kernel not finding some module/s when it is putting itself together for boot.  My guess would be the loopback filesystem module/s, which are responsible for turning your usb stick into a / partition
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> deprave: if you don't mean literally "play", try apache
[06:14] <ericvw> nickrud, do i need to add modprobe in front of each module?
[06:14] <hopeng-o> ofer0, yes didnt succeded. ill try gain more sources.list
[06:14] <ofer0> hopeng-o, you can get a realy good list @ www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:14] <nickrud> ericvw, no, just name each module on a separate line
[06:14] <Agamotto> kabifff:  Unfortunately, this sort of thing is beyond my current skill level
[06:14] <deprave> tiglionabbit : i mean something interesting, not a web server hehe
[06:14] <hopeng-o> ofer0, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories rite ?
[06:14] <deprave> where can i get Enemy Territory
[06:14] <bimberi> vader1102: usually such things have just worked(tm).  If I go to Places -> Network Servers I can see and connect to shares on the Windows network without having to do anything extra
[06:15] <crimsun> deprave: from its official mirrors
[06:15] <jesusfish> there an amarok 1.3-b2 deb around anywhere?
[06:15] <ofer0> yeah hopeng-o
[06:15] <jasoncohen> Burgundavia, i imagine that's because it would, a) be too difficult to test to make sure you could upgrade from more than one prior distribution and b) there would have to be many unnecessary and potentially problematic dummy packages to aid in the upgrade for users of older distros
[06:15] <jasoncohen> *older releases
[06:15] <deprave> crimsun : what kind of game is it? does it require a lot of resources?
[06:15] <linlin> neverball is the shit
[06:15] <kabifff> Agamotto: ok, any ideas on how I can un-install this? My Grub is all messed up now too,whenever I boot up and don't have my external plugged in, all I get is a DOS style screen saying "Grub error 21" and I need to reboot with the USB plugged in.
[06:15] <deprave> any neat scientific software for ubuntu?
[06:15] <crimsun> deprave: it's a team-based first-person shooter
[06:15] <saintFrance> what does it mean run "sudo blah blah"
[06:16] <ColonelKernel> is bob2 around?
[06:16] <deprave> crimsun : right on.
[06:16] <ColonelKernel> nope
[06:16] <Agamotto> kabifff:  Yes, because GRUB expects to find a volume at /usb or whatever.  I am not sure how to fix the problem
[06:17] <saintFrance> guys how do i install some drivers for my sound card?
[06:17] <saintFrance> i have the .exe but i cant install it
[06:17] <ofer0> what soundcard?
[06:17] <HrdwrBoB> saintFrance: the exe does you no good whatsoever
[06:17] <saintFrance> oh.
[06:17] <HrdwrBoB> saintFrance: what is the problem
[06:17] <nickrud> saintFrance, you almost certainly don't want to run that exe :)
[06:17] <Agamotto> saintFrance:  sudo - superuser do the rest are the arguments to executed as root
[06:18] <saintFrance> well i dont have drivers for my sound card
[06:18] <Burgundavia> jasoncohen, debian has a similar policy
[06:18] <saintFrance> well i have no sound
[06:18] <linlin> saintFrance, lspci and get the name of the soundcard then tell us
[06:18] <saintFrance> lspci?
[06:18] <ofer0> saintFrance, what type of soundcard ?
[06:18] <kabifff> Agamotto: Any ideas on where I can fix this? I had the same problem with Linspire (is that a bad word around here?  I don't want to have to be stuck with an External HD boot for the rest of eternity on my laptop.
[06:18] <saintFrance> audigy 2zs
[06:18] <ofer0> heh
[06:18] <linlin> mmm
[06:18] <ofer0> saintFrance, sure you have drivers
[06:18] <saintFrance> i have the cd
[06:18] <saintFrance> it came with
[06:18] <Agamotto> kabifff:  I am not expert with GRUB editing
[06:18] <ofer0> saintFrance, you just probably don`t know how to set them up
[06:19] <saintFrance> derno i just installed ubuntu.. HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO USE IT! ahh
[06:19] <Agamotto> saintFrance:  Ok, but is the driver disc linux drivers or Windows
[06:19] <ofer0> saintFrance, www.ubuntuforums.org - they have a good howto about ALSA. use it
[06:19] <zachary> saintFrance you having a problem?
[06:19] <kabifff> Agamotto: would anybody here know what to do with Grub?
[06:19] <nickrud> saintFrance, you want to ask crimsun about sound
[06:19] <saintFrance> windows i guess
[06:19] <zachary> kabiff what do you want to do with Grub?
[06:19] <Agamotto> kabifff:  Ask.  Basic idea is - How do I remove a USB key entry from my GRUB boot list
[06:20] <ubuntu_> how can i send files to a pc runnin windows xp on my network
[06:20] <zachary> ftp
[06:20] <kabifff> Does anybody in here know how to remove a USB key entry from my Grub? I'm pulling my hair out fellas
[06:20] <linlin> mount the remote drive with samba client
[06:20] <kabifff> linlin: was that meant for me?
[06:20] <bimberi> ubuntu_: set up a share on the xp box and try to connect to it from Places -> Network Servers on ubuntu
[06:21] <crimsun> saintFrance: yes?
[06:21] <linlin> yes,
[06:21] <kabifff> ok, what's the samba client and can I use it with windows?
[06:21] <linlin> kabifff, you have the folder shared already on the xp box
[06:21] <kabifff> where is it?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> any reason why it says contents cant be displayed on those boxes??
[06:22] <kabifff> Linlin: where would I find it on my XP box?
[06:22] <saintFrance> so what do i do?
[06:22] <linlin> do you have the folder shared already on your xp box?
[06:23] <crimsun> saintFrance: paste the output from lspci -v|grep udio onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:23] <kabifff> not that i know of
[06:23] <saintFrance> ah... u lost me
[06:23] <linlin> ok do you know how to share a drive/folder on windows?
[06:23] <crimsun> saintFrance: open a terminal, then type lspci -v|grep udio
[06:23] <kabifff> I believe so, but isn't that only for networking?
[06:23] <esac_> is there a program for linux that will keep track of my ping times/latency to specific sites (say google and slashdot) and let me know the history .. i wanna see when my connection is being slow (like it is right now)
[06:23] <ubuntu_> yea one sec checkin to make sure its shairin
[06:24] <crimsun> saintFrance: paste the output from that command onto the paste.ubuntulinux.nl web site
[06:24] <zachary> okay i need some help
[06:24] <zachary> anyone good with dual booting ?
[06:24] <linlin> kabifff, is your windows machine the same machine you are suing right now?
[06:25] <linlin> suing=using
[06:25] <linlin> i.e dual booting?
[06:25] <nickrud> zachary, so, so, and I can bail if I need to :)
[06:25] <saintFrance> then what do i do
[06:25] <saintFrance> ?
[06:25] <bimberi> nickrud: lol - good answer :)
[06:26] <linlin> kabifff, ?
[06:26] <kabifff> Linlin: yeah, I installed ubuntu on an external hard drive
[06:26] <zachary> nickrud, okay set up the partitions like this: winxp , ubuntu, swap, fat32 shared
[06:26] <linlin> ok.  What your going to need to do is moint the ntfs hard drive
[06:26] <esac_> what package has smbmount ?
[06:26] <ubuntu_> yup i have a shared folder open
[06:26] <nickrud> zachary, like, hda1,2,3,4?
[06:27] <zachary> nickrud, i installed on the ubuntu and it worked fine, it came to the grub loader and i installed it over the mbr
[06:27] <zachary> nickrud, exactly
[06:27] <ubuntu_> still cant get in
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> you breezy folks sure do like to update your kernels
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> :D
[06:28] <zachary> nickrud, well i had problems with the display putting out a low resolution so i tried to reinstall ubuntu
[06:28] <zachary> when i did that it took away windows from my selection on grub
[06:28] <nickrud> zachary, define 'still can't get in'
[06:28] <nickrud> ah
[06:28] <nickrud> get windows
[06:28] <nickrud> a sec
[06:28] <ColonelKernel> NO
[06:29] <ColonelKernel> thats the worst advice ever
[06:29] <ColonelKernel> get windows
[06:29] <zachary> Colonel
[06:29] <ColonelKernel> well , maybe "dont worry about condoms" is worse
[06:29] <zachary> not advice
[06:29] <ubuntu_> any reason why  icant get into the shared folders??
[06:29] <zachary> read context please and do not flame
[06:30] <nickrud> zachary, np, I just need to create a few links for my breezy thing, so I can see hoary. a sec
[06:30] <lotar> who speaker spanish ?
[06:30] <bimberi> ubuntu_: could be a permissions thing
[06:30] <zachary> no worries mate, take your time
[06:32] <nickrud> zachary, join #flood, I'll post a generic grub stanza that you can add to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst, it'll boot a standard windows install
[06:33] <saintFrance> !resolution
[06:33] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:34] <sataere> Hey
[06:34] <sataere> Does anyone here use the madwifi package?
[06:34] <vader1102> yes I do
[06:34] <vader1102> was easy to use
[06:34] <sataere> I'm having trouble connecting.
[06:35] <eno_> hello! :D
[06:35] <vader1102> satere: are you getting an error?
[06:35] <sataere> I entered my wep key, and it acts as though it connects fine, but I can't ping any systems
[06:35] <sataere> No errors (that I know of) it configures and activates fine
[06:36] <vader1102> ok, have you got the rest of it configured ok?
[06:36] <sataere> Everything configures fine, but it won't connect.
[06:37] <sataere> I don't know what to tell you or where to go to find errors, I'm used to Gentoo's verbosity.
[06:37] <vader1102> ok, what about the essid? only asking is to be sure
[06:38] <vader1102> what does dmesg tell you about it?
[06:38] <firestorm> Howdy. Which is the best place to tell my system to automatically load a kernel module at boot-time?
[06:38] <sataere> How do I use dmesg?
[06:38] <vader1102> term and type in dmesg
[06:39] <saintFrance> !resolution
[06:39] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:39] <vader1102> I want to be sure that you have the driver in there right or will act crazy
[06:39] <n1xt3r> firestorm: /etc/modules
[06:40] <pankaj> Hi
[06:40] <pankaj> hellow aru
[06:40] <pankaj> wanna chat
[06:40] <aru> not really
[06:40] <aru> but go ahead and die anyway
[06:40] <firestorm> n1xt3r: excellent, thanks
[06:40] <pankaj> why
[06:41] <pankaj> from where are you?
[06:42] <pankaj> hellow
[06:42] <sataere> pankaj, This is a room for discussion of Ubuntu.  If you don't know what that is, I suggest you leave.
[06:43] <crimsun> it'd be better if pankaj read a bit about Ubuntu. Everyone's welcome, but we need to stay on topic.
[06:45] <regeya> I wait in fullness
[06:45] <nJess> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3108 (rev 01)
[06:45] <nJess>  <---what drivers do i need for this device?
[06:46] <nJess> that was supposed to be one line....
[06:46] <ColonelKernel> nJess brand new via chipset mobo w onboard video?
[06:47] <nJess> newish
[06:47] <nJess> its an acer laptop
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> Hmmm im really sorry I dont know how to help you out w that one, but if you hang out for a bit im sure someone will be able to - what does the system set up in your xorg.conf? vesa?
[06:48] <nJess> yes, it does
[06:48] <nJess> but tux-racer won
[06:48] <nJess> won't run properly
[06:48] <zachary> njess whats the problem?
[06:48] <nJess> so i imagine this driver won't cut it
[06:48] <saintFrance> !sound
[06:48] <ubotu> [sound]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:48] <nJess> it lags really bad, poor drivers
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> yeah it probably wont - you prob wont be doing any kinda 3d games with the vesa driver
[06:49] <Ohpoo> ColonelKernel, lol that's for use
[06:49] <Ohpoo> ColonelKernel, sure
[06:49] <Agamotto> ColonelKernel:  I can vouch for that
[06:49] <ColonelKernel> zachary he's got a laptop with an onboard via video adapter and he wants DRI
[06:49] <vader1102> oh I hate that you reasearchin a card for someone and they quit lol
[06:52] <eno_> HELLO! :D
[06:52] <benplaut> hi
[06:52] <eno_> I have another annoying question!
[06:52] <aru> sweet
[06:52] <eno_> what is a symbolic link and how do I mkae one?
[06:52] <aru> did you ask google?
[06:53] <nalioth> eno_: a symbolic link is like a "shortcut" in windows
[06:53] <eno_> ummmmmm.... maybe
[06:53] <nalioth> eno_: you can see the man about "ln" or just ln -s target source
[06:53] <eno_> thanks
[06:54] <nalioth> or maybe ln -s source target (you should see the 'man')
[06:54] <eno_> yeah me too buddy ;)
[06:55] <nickrud> nalioth, why, did you actually work tonight ;)
[06:55] <nalioth> nickrud: hold your tongue, mister, i work hard every day
[06:57] <tspier2> I have a problem.
[06:57] <eno_> when I install ubuntu, will the java runtime environment be installed automatically, or do I get to download it?
[06:58] <nalioth> eno_: you'll have to install it
[06:58] <nickrud> eno, you must install it yourself
[06:58] <Agamotto> You have to download
[06:58] <nickrud> !java
[06:58] <ubotu> I guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[06:58] <Doomhammer> hello all
[06:58] <benplaut> hi
[06:58] <Doomhammer> so I've got a wierd problem with XChat...
[06:58] <eno_> thanks ubotu!
[06:59] <Doomhammer> for some reason, after I reboot the machine, it loses all the Usernames I put into the server list ?
[06:59] <benplaut> (ubotu is a bot, you don't really have to thank it
[06:59] <benplaut> )
[06:59] <Doomhammer> lol
[06:59] <bimberi> ubotu: thanks
[06:59] <ubotu> de rien, bimberi
[06:59] <nickrud> heh, so, it's thanks at one remove :)
[06:59] <bimberi> :)
[06:59] <benplaut> -rolls eyes-
[06:59] <zachary> nickrud, thanks alot mate, worked out great
[06:59] <Doomhammer> any idea why xchat refuses to remember what username I want to use ?
[07:00] <Doomhammer> it remembers my nickserv password and stuff... :/
[07:00] <nickrud> zachary, great
[07:00] <benplaut> Doomhammer: make sure the Xchat config files aren't owned by root
[07:00] <benplaut> oh
[07:00] <Doomhammer> ah
[07:01] <Doomhammer> er... where are the xchat config files ? :S
[07:01] <vader1102> well, I am off to bed....have been up too late for a week now
[07:01] <Agamotto> Time to take out the eyeballs
[07:01] <nophix> Doomhammer: ~/.xchat2 maybe
[07:02] <Doomhammer> :P
[07:02] <benplaut> dunno
[07:02] <Doomhammer> righty-ho
[07:02] <Doomhammer> config files are owned by me
[07:02] <benplaut> hmm
[07:02] <Doomhammer> but have permissions -rw-------
[07:03] <Doomhammer> no write perms
[07:03] <benplaut> rw is read/write
[07:03] <Doomhammer> wait...
[07:03] <Doomhammer> yes, i know that... but I was thinking that -rwx------ was for root only :P
[07:03] <Doomhammer> :(
[07:04] <benplaut> !info permissions
[07:04] <Orborde> Not to be too whiny, but why on Earth doesn't Ubuntu keep completely up-to-date Firefox packages ready instead of backporting them to the version included in the last Ubuntu release?
[07:04] <nophix> Orborde: the answers are in the forums
[07:05] <benplaut> packages are frozen after a release
[07:05] <nickrud> Orborde, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[07:05] <ColonelKernel> Orborde ? my firefox is 1.0.6
[07:05] <benplaut> msg !permissions
[07:05] <benplaut> woops
[07:05] <nickrud> so far, anyway ;)
[07:05] <eno_> I was raised to hate java and I will die hating java
[07:06] <benplaut> :P
[07:06] <Orborde> ColonelKernel: Well, how'd it get that way?
[07:06] <nickrud> epiphany, ahhh
[07:06] <benplaut> i liked the backported 1.04... it was fast (compiled with gcc4
[07:07] <Orborde> nickrud: Um...can you point me to where in this huge document?
[07:07] <Orborde> nophix: Where in the forums?
[07:07] <angel12> does anyone use amorok with hoary?
[07:07] <slugger> in what file is the information stored that keeps track of permissions/user/groups per file?
[07:07] <nophix> Orborde: use the search
[07:08] <benplaut> slugger: it's attached to the file, the command is "chmod"...
[07:09] <slugger> I know the command is chmod, but I thought I heard from someone that the actual permissions isn't stored in the file, it's stored elsewhere
[07:09] <Doomhammer> does fglrx work well enough to allow for gaming under linux with an ATI card (specifically UT2004...)
[07:09] <jesusfish> angel12: I do
[07:09] <Doomhammer> i have never gottent it to work properly :/
[07:09] <angel12> jesusfish, do u have sound?
[07:09] <jesusfish> angel12: yup
[07:09] <Orborde> nophix: Searching's for nerds. Thanks.
[07:10] <nickrud> Orborde, no, I can't. I assumed there'd be a section in that that was obviously about what stable is, but I don't see it
[07:10] <asda> how to disable ntp.sinkronisasi guy's
[07:10] <jesusfish> angel12: would be pointless using it if I didn't ;)
[07:10] <asda> any one help
[07:10] <nophix> Orborde: you're welcome ._.
[07:10] <angel12> jesusfish, lmao, i forgot about that, my bad. Did you have to do anything special to get sound working?
[07:10] <Doomhammer> asda: you mean how do you prevent ubuntu from syncing the time ?
[07:10] <jesusfish> angel12: nope, worked fine right away
[07:10] <asda> yes
[07:10] <asda> how to disable it
[07:10] <Doomhammer> angel12: what app are you trying to get sound in ? XMMS ?
[07:11] <Orborde> nickrud: Okay, thanks anyways.
[07:11] <Doomhammer> angel12: i had to use the eSound codec instead of OSS to get it to work...
[07:11] <nickrud> Orborde, sorry
[07:11] <asda> Doomhammer do you now that
[07:11] <Doomhammer> asda: do you want to disable it because the time is wrong if you reboot into windows ?
[07:12] <basic_> does anyone know how i can set my NIC to run at 10mbit instead of 100mbit, the cat5 cable is too long to run at 100mbit on the box
[07:12] <asda> noo Doomhammer, how to disable it
[07:12] <angel12> *new to debian based distro* how do i install a deb package?
[07:12] <asda> my time in indonesian and correct
[07:12] <Doomhammer> asda: well, one way is to get rid of the ntpdate package... apt-get remove ntpdate
[07:12] <basic_> gpkg
[07:12] <HrdwrBoB> angel12: it depends
[07:12] <asda> i'm only use ubuntu not m$
[07:12] <HrdwrBoB> angel12: what do you want to install
[07:13] <angel12> HrdwrBoB, gtkpod v.94
[07:13] <bimberi> angel12: dpkg -i foo.deb (but it is best to install using apt-get/synaptic/aptitude)
[07:13] <basic_> anyone have a solution for me?
[07:13] <Doomhammer> basic_ what was the question ?
[07:14] <basic_> does anyone know how i can set my NIC to run at 10mbit instead of 100mbit, the cat5 cable is too long to run at 100mbit on the box
[07:14] <HrdwrBoB> angel12: apt-get install gtkpod or use synaptic to get gtkpod
[07:14] <Doomhammer> basic_: oh... no idea - sorry :(
[07:14] <nalioth> basic_: it should autodetect your line speed
[07:14] <basic_> well it detects it as 100mbit
[07:14] <basic_> but it's like a 150' cat5 cable and wont run that fast
[07:14] <angel12> HrdwrBoB, its not the newest ver
[07:15] <Doomhammer> basic that is a long-ass cable ! :O
[07:15] <lancer285> Hey all, I'm having problems getting/finding transcode
[07:15] <basic_> :>
[07:15] <nickrud> !backports
[07:15] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:16] <nalioth> basic, are you suffering from slow data?
[07:16] <lancer285> can anyone tell me where to download transcode for ubuntu??
[07:16] <basic_> ? im not, my dad is the one who has to deal with the 10mbit, everything else in the house is 100mbit
[07:17] <Doomhammer> how old are you, basic ?
[07:17] <basic_> 19
[07:17] <Doomhammer> ah
[07:17] <basic_> only home for the summer, then back to the university
[07:17] <nalioth> basic_: your box will move data at best speed, no matter what it says
[07:18] <basic_> hmm, i will see then, i might just make some cat5e and run it instead :p
[07:18] <lancer285> does anyone know of a repository that has transcode?? I can't find it
[07:18] <nalioth> basic_: or put a hub or switch in the middle
[07:18] <basic_> backports has it eh
[07:18] <Doomhammer> lancer: have you tried the universal repositories ?
[07:18] <lancer285> doomhammer yes I have that one added, and it says its not there
[07:18] <basic_> that too
[07:19] <Doomhammer> lancer: when I turn "apt-cache search transcode", all it turns up is a GTK front-end for it... :/
[07:19] <lancer285> doomhammer yes I have the same problem.
[07:19] <Burgundavia> Razor-X, you need to show up at the next CC meetng
[07:19] <Doomhammer> heh, seems pretty pointless to have a front-end for something you can't install :P
[07:19] <nalioth> Doomhammer: transcode in hoary will have to be built via apt from source(s)
[07:19] <lancer285> nalioth so I have to add the src repository?
[07:19] <bimberi> Doomhammer, lancer285: there is a package in the hoary-extras repository in backports
[07:20] <nalioth> lancer285: deb-src lines are wonderful
[07:20] <lancer285> bimberi how do I add that repos?
[07:20] <concept10> Burgundavia, when in the next meeting
[07:20] <concept10> !repositories
[07:20] <ubotu> repositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[07:20] <bimberi> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:21] <lancer285> bimberi, thanks for the help!
[07:21] <bimberi> lancer285: yw :)
[07:21] <Burgundavia> concept10, 20utc, 2 aug
[07:21] <nickrud> !backports
[07:21] <ubotu> from memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:22] <Burgundavia> anyboyd got a warty install here?
[07:22] <concept10> Burgundavia, Thanks.
[07:22] <Madpilot> hi all
[07:25] <floppyears> hi
[07:26] <floppyears> in order to be able to mount an usb thumb drive do I need to recompile the kernel ?
[07:26] <Doomhammer> hiya floppy
[07:26] <crimsun> floppyears: no, just insert it.
[07:26] <floppyears> crimsun: under what /dev is it located ?
[07:26] <Doomhammer> isn't it /dev/usb0 and so on ?
[07:27] <nickrud> depends on how it's defined in udev, i think
[07:27] <crimsun> floppyears: it's a mass storage device, so it'll show up as /dev/sdXX
[07:27] <floppyears> crimsun: thanks
[07:27] <orac7000> floppyears: mine just works, i didn't have to do anything
[07:28] <floppyears> orac7000: mine didn't show up I usually have to mount things