[15:22] <tyrog> execR: neither
[15:22] <zteam> adac, :--)
[15:22] <Quatroking> hey guys I need some help finding a game I played a lot back on 7.04
[15:23] <execR> tyrog: let us knwo :)
[15:23] <Quatroking> it was a platformer with basic graphics, and you played a smiley with a bandana
[15:23] <execR> know*
[15:23] <Quatroking> basically you shot baddies to bits and saved hostages here and there AFAIK
[15:23] <Quatroking> 2d platformer
[15:23] <Quatroking> I wish to play it again but I have no idea what it was called
[15:24] <tyrog> execR: Is OpenOffice much different from LibreOffice?
[15:25] <execR> tyrog: not much, i find libreoffice more compatible with docx
[15:26] <azizLIGHT> if i got a package from apt-get and its a old version, and i go and install a newer version from seomwhere else, hwo does ubuntu know which version to use? do both exist simultaneously or does the old one get deleted?
[15:27] <n-iCe> azizLIGHT: it just upgrades
[15:27] <aciremAukkinoS> azizLIGHT: Newer versions are installed over older versions.
[15:27] <azizLIGHT> so the old one from apt-get gets deleted, and replaced by the newer one from wherever i got it from
[15:28] <azizLIGHT> what happens if the apt-get one gets updated more than the one i have installed from 3rd party
[15:28] <azizLIGHT> and what would happen if i installed the newer apt-get one over the 3rd party one
[15:28] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: if you install something manually from .deb package it wont get updates since apt-get doesnt know its there
[15:29] <azizLIGHT> im using a .run file
[15:29] <azizLIGHT> not a deb
[15:29] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: and apt-get will install the highest versioning number. so if the version number is broken on the PPA (for example) that will be never updated if apt thinks its still higher than the one from the ubuntu repo
[15:29] <azizLIGHT> is that more complicated
[15:29] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: that is even worse
[15:30] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: what program is it?
[15:30] <azizLIGHT> tell me why please
[15:30] <azizLIGHT> it is qt
[15:30] <azizLIGHT> 14.04 has qt 5.2.1 and a program i have is complaining it needs qt 5.3 or more
[15:30] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: because you dont get the update stuff from the online package system and you dont get the install/remove service from the clinetside package system
[15:31] <azizLIGHT> the only way i see it is to upgrade with a .run file on qt site. but am concerned about breaking package management and auto upgrading etc
[15:31] <k1l_> *clientside
[15:31] <k1l_> yes ofcourse you are breaking that with the .run.
[15:31] <azizLIGHT> ohhhh
[15:31] <azizLIGHT> why didnt they make a deb at least
[15:32] <azizLIGHT> :/
[15:32] <k1l_> you should see if there is a PPA for your program in the first place, that is already made working with ubuntu
[15:32] <azizLIGHT> ohhhh good idea
[15:33] <azizLIGHT> whats the difference between a ppa and adding a source into /etc/apt/sources.list though
[15:33] <azizLIGHT> they do the same thing, no?
[15:33] <k1l_> dont add a source into sources.list. that is deprecated on ubuntu. we got /etc/apt/sources.list.d for that now
[15:34] <k1l_> !ppa | azizLIGHT
[15:34] <azizLIGHT> yeah but ym question remains, whats the diff between those two. dont they do the same thing
[15:34] <Heliarc> !addppa
[15:34] <azizLIGHT> so its just simpler...? thats it?
[15:35] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: no
[15:35] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: there are programs to handle PPAs and remove the easily.
[15:35] <k1l_> the whole setup is based on not mixing official ubuntu sources and 3rd party stuff
[15:35] <azizLIGHT> ah, so its to provide a sense of separation
[15:36] <k1l_> and the upgrader will cancel PPAs on upgrade not to ruin ubuntu on upgrade
[15:36] <azizLIGHT> so most people here only have the main ubuntu official stuff in their apt sources list
[15:36] <k1l_> so there is a lot difference in handling. and that is because 3rd party stuff breaks ubuntu all the time and people just blame ubuntu instead of that crappy 3rd party stuff
[15:37] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: cancel ppa? does that mean it will remove the ppa sources and purge the packages from them before doing the upgrade to new version?
[15:37] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: yes. that is the ubuntu way.
[15:37] <azizLIGHT> so if i upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 all my ppa software will vanish
[15:38] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: no. it will disable them. to try to get the cleanest upgrade possible (with the ubuntu official repos and in best case it will overwrite the PPA crap installed anyway)
[15:38] <azizLIGHT> i see
[15:38] <azizLIGHT> i like this
[15:39] <k1l_> if you want to get rid of a PPA use ppa-purge
[15:39] <azizLIGHT> i use y-ppa-manager for that :)
[15:39] <k1l_> but that only works if you did not put it into the official sources.list
[15:39] <happyraver1958> Hi everybody, I got a question about BIND9
[15:39] <azizLIGHT> mm no i havent touched anything in there, just wondering how it all works
[15:40] <happyraver1958> is there a DNS / BIND9 expert somewhere?  I got a big problem with views
[15:40] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: thanks for explaining it to me
[15:40] <happyraver1958> as soon as I start to use views my DNS server stops responding to queries altogether
[15:41] <happyraver1958> anybody has had that problem before?
[15:41] <multitaskin_dude> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[15:41] <happyraver1958> Ubuntu 14.04 and 12.04 do it alike
[15:41] <multitaskin_dude> happyraver1958: TRY DEBIAN
[15:42] <happyraver1958> Ubuntu has become the standard here, I'd like not to break the standard if I can avoid it
[15:42] <azizLIGHT> i think he was trolling you
[15:42] <happyraver1958> I've tried restarting the service and I've tried so many things
[15:42] <happyraver1958> yeah azizLIGHT, that's what it looks like
[15:43] <happyraver1958> as soon as I start up the server with a configuration file with a view, the server won't respond to queries
[15:43] <happyraver1958> has anybody had that problem before?
[15:45] <azizLIGHT> k1l_: one last question about packages. if qt is 5.2.1 on 14.04 LTS, can we expect version upgrades for 14.04 or will they only do security fixes? for example, can i expect qt 5.3 or more on 14.04 LTS eventually? or does it mean i must upgrade to 14.10 and get what new package versions they have in 14.10, if any
[15:45] <k1l_> azizLIGHT: only security and bug patches for most packages
[15:46] <azizLIGHT> i see. so i should either upgrade to 14.10 and see their packages. or find a ppa for 14.04
[15:46] <jimmy51v_> i've got an application i'm trying to run but it's not finding libxml2.so.  ldd shows 'not found', but libxml2 is installed.  i even checked and have a symlink made:  sudo ln --symbolic /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxml2.so
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !find libxml2.so
[15:46] <k1l_> yes
[15:46] <sacarlson> azizLIGHT: many times if they don't upgrade them you can get backports from ppa
[15:47] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: i've got libxml2 installed for sure.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: gimme a sec
[15:47] <azizLIGHT> ah
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:48] <azizLIGHT> i think someone will make a ppa for qt, because it seems like a lot of things use that. and 5.3 seems like a major feature addition
[15:48] <d4rkt1m3s> is it safe to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu? and if so, does that install the new plasma 5?
[15:48] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libxml2.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[15:49] <k1l_> d4rkt1m3s: it is safe. but it will not install plasma5 iirc
[15:49] <d4rkt1m3s> crap
[15:49] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: same issue.
[15:49] <sacarlson> azizLIGHT: or they will port the apps that run on qt new to run on the older qt
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: that gives the file you need, no?
[15:49] <d4rkt1m3s> how does one install plasma 5
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:50] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: yeah... the file is there
[15:50] <jimmy51v_> but the application still doesn't see it
[15:50] <k1l_> d4rkt1m3s: http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:50] <d4rkt1m3s> ActionParsnip: there is no issue.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: its a file, what does the output read
[15:50] <k1l_> d4rkt1m3s: but its a testing release. so be aware of issues
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: run the command, what is output?
[15:51] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: ldd shows...     libxml2.so.2 => not found
[15:51] <d4rkt1m3s> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: easy stuff huh
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-04
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> d4rkt1m3s: as usual with ALL PPAs. We don't support them here and it is uysed at your own risk
[15:52] <jimmy51v_> !ldconfig
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> *used
[15:52] <d4rkt1m3s> I understand.
[15:53] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip: hmmmmmmmmm...     installed libxml2:i386 and it's working
[15:53] <jimmy51v_> or appears to be
[15:53] <jimmy51v_> pretty stupid for a 64 bit version to require 32 bit libs.
[15:55] <happyraver1958> I found something in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=919160&highlight=BIND9+queries+configured+views
[15:56] <happyraver1958> but my problem seems a little depeer
[15:56] <happyraver1958> again, has anybody experienced a problem with BIND9 with views configuration?
[15:57] <pbx> the Backups app is telling me "Your backup appears to be corrupted.  You should delete the backup and try again."  my backup dir has 30-40 dejadup tarballs in it.  delete *what*?
[15:57] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh you want to have bind9 resolve on your local lan?
[15:57] <jimmy51v_> ok... i installed some :i386 versions of packages and now apt is messed up;   http://pastebin.ca/2868554
[15:58] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I'm not sure what you mean views config.  I've done local zones
[15:58] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yes, I need my BIND9 to resolve locally and on the Internet
[15:58] <jhutchins> happyraver1958: Ditch the control panel and learn to configure bind correctly.
[15:59] <happyraver1958> jhutchins: I'm not using the control panel
[15:59] <happyraver1958> I'm trying to configure views based on a configuration that works on a Fedora 14 server
[15:59] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I just have two servers.  one for wan and one for local.
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> jimmy51v_: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[15:59] <happyraver1958> The Fedora 14 server works, but it needs to be upgraded to the standard Ubuntu 14.04
[16:00] <jimmy51v_> ActionParsnip:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 90 not upgraded.
[16:00] <jhutchins> happyraver1958: How can views have anything to do with DNS?
[16:00] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: We're using one server for both inside and outside networks, that's what views are for
[16:00] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: my local subnet is served by my local bind9.  I have tried in the past to point my site to my local bind9 but I have a dynamic ip that changes
[16:01] <jhutchins> sacarlson: You need an external DNS for that, something like dyndns.
[16:01] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: IC I'll have to look up views then to see how that could be used,  haveing two works fine for me
[16:01] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: we're lucky to have static IP addresses, I've had that challenged and I used DYNDNS for that
[16:01] <happyraver1958> it works pretty good for my customers
[16:02] <sacarlson> jhutchins: yes I still have that no-ip
[16:03] <sacarlson> jhutchins: but I just have my outside wan dns serve them and they can still see the same web address that my local apache2 serves my local network
[16:03] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: the problem I'm having is that it won't respond to DNS queries once I make the change in the configuration files to add views
[16:03] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: there are no error messages in the logs, my daemon is running fine, everything is ok in the server
[16:04] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but I don't know what the server is doing with the queries that are being sent
[16:04] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: so what's stoping you from using my method with two dns instead of the views method?
[16:04] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I even ran a wireshark and it looks like my workstation just sends the queries out and gets no response from the server whatsoever
[16:04] <ildefonso> happyraver1958, I would say the same thing, just use two DNS servers.  I can't remember when was the last time I tried to create a single DNS server for both internal and external addresses.
[16:05] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ssh into your outside point and try dig @youlocaldns
[16:05] <ildefonso> I know it is possible, but I just can't remember right now.
[16:05] <happyraver1958> I'm kind of embarrassed because there is a server right now running fine with views and I can't get mine to work
[16:06] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: so what kind of a connection is it to wan?  adsl?
[16:06] <happyraver1958> plus I'm not sure my boss will want to run two servers for DNS instead of just one
[16:06] <happyraver1958> we have four T1's and we're in a virtual environment
[16:06] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: there are free dns on wan you can use,  it cost nothing
[16:06] <ildefonso> happyraver1958, use lxc :P (virtualize)
[16:07] <happyraver1958> problem is we keep making updates to our DNS server records constantly
[16:07] <ildefonso> and yes, I know it is possible, and I could bet it is a simple detail... but it takes time to sort out that things.
[16:07] <happyraver1958> that's why we have our own DNS server facing out
[16:07] <ildefonso> and, in the end, you have more security if you use two DNS servers.
[16:08] <happyraver1958> ildefonso: I agree, there must be something I'm missing somewhere but I just can't pin-point what it is
[16:08] <gennaro> salve
[16:08] <happyraver1958> like I said, the Fedora 14 server works fine as an inside and outside DNS server
[16:08] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: well with t1 an I would assume a static ip I think I would continue to try to figure out your views method.  I'll take a look at it
[16:08] <ildefonso> happyraver1958, I dropped that solution in the end, because of possible security issues, so, I ended up using two DNS servers.
[16:08] <happyraver1958> and it has a views configuration
[16:08] <ildefonso> but of course, not two physical servers.
[16:08] <adac> Does someon know where the tomcat7 executable is located
[16:09] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: what side fails the wan side of the local side or both?
[16:09] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: both! my DNS server just won't respond to any query coming from anywhere
[16:09] <ildefonso> happyraver1958, if I were you, I would just setup an small lxc VM, and put the external DNS there.
[16:09] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok did you ever have it working on eather side?
[16:10] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yes, as soon as I remove the views configuration, it works great!
[16:10] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh ok did you pastebin your configs for us to see then?
[16:10] <gennaro> salve a tutti
[16:10] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but it only works with no views configuration inside
[16:11] <k1l_> !it | gennaro
[16:11] <happyraver1958> let me see if I can prepare something here
[16:13] <eldritchdeerlaug> so
[16:16] <happyraver1958> This is named.conf: options  { 	listen-on port 53  {	<IP_ADDRESS>; 				<IP_ADDRESS>; 	};  	directory	"/etc/bind"; 	dump-file	"/etc/bind/data/cache_dump.db"; 	statistics-file	"/etc/bind/data/named_stats.txt"; 	memstatistics-file "/etc/bind/data/named_mem_stats.txt";  	allow-query  { any; };  	forward first; 	forwarders  { 			x.x.x.x; 			x.x.x.x; 			x.x.x.x; 	};  	dnssec-enable no; 	dnssec-validation no; 	dnssec-lookaside auto;
[16:23] <Guest87420> wazzzzzz up
[16:24] <happyraver1958> ./internal/domain-name.com configuration file: $TTL 3D @	IN	SOA	ns1.domain-name.com.  hostmaster.domain-name.com. (                                        225		; Serial                                       8H      	; Refresh                                       2H      	; Retry                                       4W    		; Expire                                       1D )    	; Minimum ; ;  		NS	ns1.domain-name.com.			; in
[16:25] <Pici> happyraver1958: Please use a pastebin, don't paste things directly into this channel.
[16:25] <happyraver1958> it didn't paste the whole thing though
[16:25] <Guest87420> is there anyone here ?
[16:25] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[16:25] <happyraver1958> I'm not familiar with pastebin
[16:25] <loganrun> one used to be able to resize lvm/ext4 partitions from the disk utilitiy, but now that I upgraded Ubuntu I don't see an option for that. It seems like the disk utility program has been replaced by a new less capable one. Is there any way to get the old one back
[16:25] <compdoc> pastebin.com
[16:26] <aciremAukkinoS> Guest87420: Nope. No one's here. It's totally deserted.
[16:30] <loganrun> running ubuntu 14.04
[16:30] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: this is the best I found so far without seeing what you have it should look like this http://www.howtoforge.com/two_in_one_dns_bind9_views
[16:31] <happyraver1958> ok, here's the paste for my internal network configuration:  http://pastebin.com/t86qmrzd
[16:32] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yes, thanks, I have gone through several of those tutorials
[16:32] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: and my configuration is supposed to work
[16:32] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: the essential configuration settings for views are in my configuration files, but the server just refuses to work for some strange reason
[16:33] <akiva-thinkpad> come join #ubuntu-on-air if you have any questions!
[16:33] <akiva-thinkpad> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeMNCAyTDHE
[16:35] <Shasirax> Hello, I'm having some problems with my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS install. Every apt-get command gives "Errors were encountered while processing:  brltty". Anyone know any solution?
[16:36] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: well it must be missing somethings as I search for "view" it's not there
[16:37] <freijon> Shasirax: did you apt-get update ?
[16:38] <Shasirax> freijon: Yes, of course :) I've also tried rebooting, -f install and every other solution I can find online... which wasn't that much
[16:38] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: this is my named.conf file  http://pastebin.com/uXDkxZWy
[16:38] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok
[16:43] <Shasirax> This is what happens from a regular sudo apt-get upgrade (after update). http://pastebin.com/LFZPnVNg
[16:44] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I just note a few things one bing file "internal/192.168.150"  but maybe that still works?
[16:45] <k1l_> Shasirax: run a apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:45] <freijon> Shasirax: can you reinstall brltty?
[16:45] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: that's for reverse lookup
[16:46] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: and my server does not respond to any queries at all
[16:46] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: so it doesn't respond to reverse lookups either
[16:46] <freijon> Shasirax: try this: "sudo apt-get install initscripts"
[16:46] <Shasirax> k1l_: Running
[16:46] <k1l_> Shasirax: and are you using brltty at all?
[16:47] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: even though reverse lookups are configured as well
[16:47] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but my whole server seems to go down as soon as I use views
[16:47] <Shasirax> freijon: Will try as soon as the first command is done, it wanted to download 500 mb (Y)
[16:47] <jhutchins> happyraver1958: Is there some documentation you're using for views?
[16:47] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but named is up and going, there are no errors in the logs, all the domains are loaded correctly, everything seems fine, but the server won't respond to any queries
[16:48] <Shasirax> k1l_: I don't think so, I'm purely using Ubuntu to host a CS server (scripted in some way) so maybe it was a dependency for that.
[16:48] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I mean the relitive file location internal/192.168.150
[16:48] <happyraver1958> jhutchins: My only source for views as of right now is a few searches on the internet and the current Fedora 14 server, the old server that is currently working with views
[16:49] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh ya if it didn't find the file then the logs would have indicated that so that must be ok
[16:49] <jhutchins> happyraver1958: A link would be helpful.
[16:49] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: oh yeah, it exists, it loads in the configuration, it runs fine
[16:50] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: and that file is the other pastebin you sent?
[16:50] <happyraver1958> jhutchins: a link to what? my current DNS server? my new one is not up on the internet yet
[16:50] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: no, I didn't paste my reverse lookup files because I think they're irrelevant to the issue
[16:51] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok so if you just comment this line match-clients  {  <IP_ADDRESS>/16;  <IP_ADDRESS>;  };  it works?
[16:52] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: let me check
[16:53] <Shasirax> k1l_: This command is taking forever to execute...
[16:53] <k1l_> Shasirax: yes, you had a lot of updates kept back due to not running full updates
[16:54] <k1l_> Shasirax: maybe that fixes the issue already
[16:54] <k1l_> Shasirax: but that is not a server, is it? there is too much gui stuff related
[16:54] <Shasirax> k1l_: Hopefully it will, I had some problems installing updates yesterday (from this brltty thingy...)
[16:54] <Airbander> Hi guys
[16:55] <Airbander> i just lost the icon of connexion from my pannel plz help me to bring it back and thanks
[16:55] <Shasirax> k1l_: I installed ubuntu yesterday so it's just the regular first boot updates I think
[16:55] <Airbander> i think yes
[16:55] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: opps might have to replace it with match-clients { any; };
[16:56] <Shasirax> k1l_: libreoffice and stuff like that
[16:56] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: just to see if it works any way
[16:56] <perennial> hello there! is there a way to check the state of ram as of the moment without running memtest. I mean whether it is ok or broken? the reason is that gimp gives an error every now and then that memory could not be allocated, that it was unable to fork..
[16:57] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: won't that make it get confused with the external configuration?
[16:57] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: external has match any
[16:57] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but I'll try anyway :)
[16:58] <yabu2> Hi, anybody can help for iptables NAT
[16:58] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I'm not sure but since it seems to put out nothing at all it seems nether is working
[16:58] <perennial> and it works now when I restarted the computer
[16:58] <andlabs> okay really
[16:58] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh and I guess if the first works then it won't continue?
[16:59] <andlabs> is there a way I can turn OFF gnome-keyring integration with git?
[16:59] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: Right now I just set them both up to respond to any client on internal and external
[16:59] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I'll keep you posted
[16:59] <npm> Odd error updating 14.04.1LTS: "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch" ---> ???
[17:00] <npm> tried again, error gone
[17:00] <yabu2> Hello, i'm just looking for NAT internal to external vice versa can you help
[17:00] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: did not work  :(
[17:01] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I would assume if it works at all it will only server internal,  oh didn't work
[17:01] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: same result, no response from the server, not even locally in its own CLI
[17:01] <andlabs> ...and SSH In general?
[17:01] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: you use dig to test it?
[17:02] <happyraver1958> I used both nslookup and dig
[17:02] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I used both nslookup and dig
[17:03] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok well I'm not sure I can simulate something here to see what I can learn
[17:03] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: just follow the instructions in the tutorial you sent me
[17:03] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: it happened to me at home too, my DNS server at home did the same thing
[17:04] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: with an entirely different configuration and in a test environment of course, but the result is the same
[17:04] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: what does the working version look like were at least local works?
[17:04] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: that's why I think it's either a bug that is triggered when I miss something in the configuration
[17:05] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: named.conf would not have any views in it, just the configuration for regular name resolution
[17:06] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: if you can, set up an Ubuntu 14.04 server, clean install with just DNS server on it
[17:06] <l0rdn1x> why is chromium called chromium-bsu ?
[17:06] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: then configure it using the tutorial you sent me
[17:06] <k1l_> !info chromium
[17:06] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: that's what I did at home and it didn't work, it did the same thing it's doing here at the office
[17:06] <qengho> !info chromium-browser
[17:06] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: the difference I see is you not having acl internals {....}  so you or I could try that
[17:07] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I've been working on it for weeks now and I still can't figure out why it does that, but only with views, as soon as you remove the views from the configuration it works fine
[17:07] <k1l_> !info chromium-bsu | l0rdn1x
[17:07] <l0rdn1x> Thanks k1l_
[17:07] <andlabs> never mind
[17:08] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I just tried that this minute because I haven't tried it before
[17:08] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: with the same results as well  :(
[17:08] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: if I at least had an error message that would give me a clue ...
[17:10] <joshka> can someone help me with a custom init service? I'm having some trouble.
[17:10] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: another difference is they never used relitive file name full path names were used
[17:11] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: but you must have also used relitive path in the none view version
[17:12] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I tried using relative paths and I got error messages in the logs saying that they couldn't find "internal/domain-name.com"
[17:12] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: so I had to use absolute paths to make my domains load
[17:13] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh so what I have is not what your running then?  it has relitive files
[17:14] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: no dude, it won't work at all on any case without absolute paths
[17:15] <currykid94> \topic
[17:15] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: when I configured it without views I still had to use absolute paths, otherwise BIND won't load the daemon
[17:15] <Airbander> Hi guys i need help plz
[17:15] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: but the pastebin I have is showing them so if I was to simulate this it also won't work
[17:15] <Airbander> how bring back the network icon in the panel barre
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Airbander: run:  nm-applet
[17:15] <Airbander> thanks
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Airbander: you dont need the icon there to connect to networks, its just a GUI for the network-manager service
[17:16] <Airbander> i'm using xubuntu
[17:16] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: oh your not getting error because it never gets to the point it needs the file it is never true to match
[17:17] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: you know what, I gave you the previous revision of the configuration files, sorry, my bad  :(
[17:17] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: the new revision has absolute paths
[17:18] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok so at least I was right about something ha ha
[17:18] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yes, you were!
[17:18] <currykid94> what is the channel topic
[17:18] <Airbander> ActionParsnip he said that i need to install one of this packages *network-manager-gnome and * mythhuntu-diskless-client
[17:19] <currykid94> \topic
[17:19] <BluesKaj> !topic
[17:20] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I read back but still didn't see you say you tried this acl internals {....}  instead of your present match-clients  {  <IP_ADDRESS>/16;  <IP_ADDRESS>;  };
[17:21] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: with  match-clients { internals; };
[17:21] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yeah, I just tried it, just a few minutes ago
[17:21] <nooby_>  /topic
[17:22] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: that's why you don't see it in the current pastebins
[17:22] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: let me send you the updated version of the configuration files
[17:22] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I would only assume that  match-clients  {  <IP_ADDRESS>/16;  <IP_ADDRESS>;  };  never becomes true  but that would also mean that match-clients  {  any: } also never becomes true
[17:23] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: what ip address is it that you are testing it from?
[17:23] <mikael> How do I enable the ethernet connection?
[17:24] <sacarlson> mikael: normaly you can click on the network icon
[17:24] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: we have two /24 IP networks involved here, 150 and 151 (I just changed the numbers in the configuration files for privacy, but who cares now...)
[17:24] <mikael> sacarlson: It's greyed out
[17:25] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I'm sending queries to the DNS server from both IP networks, and it won't respond to either one, regardless of using ACLs or directly putting it into match-clients { }
[17:25] <sacarlson> mikael: can you maybe right click it?
[17:25] <mikael> sacarlson: nothing happens
[17:26] <sacarlson> mikael: maybe your user doesn't have privliges for network?
[17:26] <mikael> sacarlson: at the network?
[17:27] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: well I would think I could simulate it in virtualbox.  is that how you tested it at home?
[17:27] <mikael> sacarlson: Do you know how I fix my wifi falling out? I've tried something I googled, but it stills fall out from time to time
[17:27] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: yup, that's exactly how I tested it at home.  We have vmware at the office, but I used virtualbox at home with the same results: As soon as you turn on views, everything goes south
[17:29] <mikael> Anyone knows have i fix my wifi connection? It keeps falling out!
[17:29] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok I will just have to prove you wrong otherwise those notes they gave us are incorrect
[17:30] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: nothing would make me happier than you proving me wrong
[17:30] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: but should I stay on the IRC while you try it or should I give you my e-mail address?
[17:30] <sacarlson> mikael: oh grayed out maybe network-manager isn't running  try sudo ps -A | grep network-manager
[17:32] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: I remain monitoring irc 24/7 if it's down it's do to my ISP being down
[17:32] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: probly best to pm as this is not really a ubuntu isue
[17:32] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Hows it going ubuntu world?
[17:33] <Airbander> very Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[17:33] <Airbander> you ?
[17:33] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Goooooooooooooooood!  Bout to pop 14.04 onto my transformer pad
[17:33] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: well then, I do look forward to looking at the results of your experiment, should we exchange contact info?
[17:33] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Wanna dual boot win8 and 14.04
[17:34] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: it does look like an ubuntu issue, because other servers seem to work just fine
[17:35] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ok so maybe it's a ubuntu bug isue,  I sent you my skype nick on pm
[17:35] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: do you still want the pastebin of my current configuration files?
[17:35] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: ya sure
[17:36] <raschy> so is there anyone here that would like to help me fix some graphics driver issues?
[17:37] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I guess I'm getting skype now, I'll be in touch, let me just finish the pastebin and I'll be out
[17:38] <mikael> sacarlson: it says "wrong. Try again. "
[17:38] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: wrong skype?  it looks like I spelled it correctly
[17:39] <sacarlson> mikael: oh the ps -A | grep network  ;  didn't work?
[17:39] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: I haven't tried it yet, I don't have skype on this computer, I have to install it
[17:40] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: no I got you and mikael confused
[17:40] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: well, I did receive your skype ID
[17:41] <mikael> sacarlson: No, as you see it only said that it was wrong
[17:41] <sacarlson> happyraver1958: that's ok that only if you fail to see me here or at #mini-isp  or #multicoin or ....
[17:42] <happyraver1958> sacarlson: This is my latest BIND configuration: http://pastebin.com/ZtTtjZvM
[17:42] <sacarlson> mikael: did you cut an paist it?  maybe it's getting too late for me if I can't get that right
[17:42] <Airbander> Hi guys
[17:42] <mikael> sacarlson: it was my password that was wrong :-) but nothing happened anyway :-S
[17:44] <mikael> sacarlson: I did copy paste. It just changed line. No comment or reaction
[17:44] <Airbander> i found it ( about the network icon in panel barre ) you just clic on add New items and chose Indicator Plugin
[17:44] <Airbander> thanks for help and thanks
[17:44] <mikael> sacarlson: and still grey
[17:45] <sacarlson> mikael: oh just changed lines that mean that network-manager is NOT running
[17:46] <sacarlson> mikael: so you should be able to sudo services network-manager restart
[17:46] <happyraver1958> have a great day everybody!
[17:46] <Airbander> thanks you too
[17:59] <fahadash> Hey
[18:00] <fahadash> I forgot the password of my ubuntu installation, what is the most painless way to recover ?
[18:01] <kevindf> Isn't Ubuntu 12.04 pretty vulnerable?
[18:01] <bubbasaures> !password
[18:01] <kevindf> desktop version
[18:01] <bubbasaures> fahadash, ^^^^^^^^^^^
[18:02] <jhutchins> kevindf: 12.04 has LTS.
[18:02] <fahadash> Let me read that. Thanks
[18:02] <kevindf> jhutchins Ah ok, does the server version has that also?
[18:03] <fahadash> My Ubuntu installation is not fresh, and not very old either. I have some data though. Should I use Standard, or the Other way ?
[18:03] <bubbasaures> kevindf, Yes very vulnerable, if you drop the computer in water it stops working.
[18:03] <gucprez> alguien que hable espanol
[18:04] <gucprez> tengo una pregunta
[18:04] <kevindf> oh that doesn't sound good
[18:04] <Pici> !es | gucprez
[18:05] <s4my_> guys my computer just shutdown suddenly (overheating) and i was downloading a torrent file who was like 60% done in the default ubuntu torrent client transmission and now it's restarting the download from scrach is there a way to resume the download or am FUCKING done too ?
[18:05] <s4my_> help plz
[18:06] <tdannecy> s4my_: It should have resumed the download automatically.
[18:06] <s4my_> tdannecy, no it actually restarted from the beginnig
[18:06] <OerHeks> s4my_, mind your languiage please, and yes, if the torrent does not resume, bad luck
[18:06] <knightfelt> s4my_: You can sometimes force a re check of the torrent if you can point it to where the download was being saved. Then it will resume where it left off
[18:06] <basil1x> It might've skipped directories.
[18:06] <basil1x> Did you put it somewhere besides the default directory?
[18:07] <s4my_> knightfelt, how do i do that plz and sorry for my language am just so frustrated
[18:07] <fahadash> I am on VM, Shift key does not work on Grub :(
[18:07] <tdannecy> s4my_: You should probably join the #transmission IRC channel. They should be able to help better than we can.
[18:08] <bubbasaures> fahadash, Shift is to see grub, and it works in my virtualbox.
[18:08] <knightfelt> s4my_: https://www.transmissionbt.com/help/gtk/2.7x/html/check.html
[18:09] <bubbasaures> fahadash, Worst case you can boot a live ubuntu and back up what you need in a vm
[18:09] <mikael> sacarlson: Did you give me an answer? I lost my wifi connection...again :-/
[18:10] <shin> s4my_: try qbittorrent
[18:10] <Shaan> hey guys do i need to set seperate iptables rules for ipv6?
[18:11] <s4my_> knightfelt, when i login and started transmission it restarted the download so i paused it now when i do the verfication it just doesn't do sh** it continues on downloading from 0
[18:12] <knightfelt> s4my_: where you downloading to a external drive or your local drive?
[18:12] <s4my_> knightfelt, to my desktop
[18:12] <s4my_> knightfelt, local drive
[18:13] <shin> s4my_: unless you moved or deleted the file, it should resume the download
[18:13] <knightfelt> s4my_: I would go over to #transmission channel and ask them there. They would be able to give expert advice
[18:13] <shin> s4my_: oh, or change perms
[18:13] <s4my_> knightfelt, i didn't do anything myself but i think it did delete it on it's own
[18:14] <knightfelt> s4my_: Transmission wouldn't do that without asking first
[18:14] <s4my_> knightfelt, on the transmission channel no one is talking
[18:14] <s4my_> shin, what do you mean plz
[18:14] <knightfelt> on your desktop, what is the size of the file?
[18:14] <s4my_> knightfelt, it's 1.52Gb
[18:15] <knightfelt> s4my_: I would try removing the torrent from transmission, making sure *not to delete local data* only the torrent.
[18:15] <Surendil> s4my_: i mean, you accidentally gave root pems to file
[18:15] <knightfelt> Then readding it in a paused state making sure the download directory is the same as the one you were using.
[18:15] <knightfelt> s4my_: then do a local recheck of data
[18:16] <knightfelt> s4my_: If that doesn't restart you back where you left off, I can't help much more.
[18:16] <s4my_> Surendil, yeah i did when
[18:16] <Surendil> s4my_: never really like transmission either, take a look at qbittorrent
[18:17] <Surendil> s4my_: if file have root access, transmission wont be able to write on file, unless you run transmission as root
[18:17] <basil1x> Or Deluge.
[18:17] <basil1x> Nice compromise, Deluge.
[18:17] <OerHeks> s4my_, contact the torrentseeder :-D
[18:17] <s4my_> Surendil, yeah before i even finish the download i installed qbittorrent but i kind was in the middle of downloading the file
[18:18] <knightfelt> Surendil: utorrent has a decent linux torrent client as well. It's web based which is nice.
[18:18] <Surendil> s4my_: if you poing the torrent to the same download folder, it will resume, not start over
[18:18] <Surendil> *point
[18:25] <s4my_> Surendil, when i started the download i started it from the terminal with sudo and when i log on and started transmission it automatically started from scratch
[18:26] <OerHeks> start again as sudo, maybe the root-torrent still exists
[18:26] <Surendil> s4my_: there's your problem
[18:27] <Surendil> like i said before, first file have roots perms, only root can keep writing the file
[18:27] <s4my_> Surendil, yeah i know but HOW TO FIX IT i started it in sudo to allow it to run a bash script to shut down my laptop when the dowloading is done
[18:28] <Surendil> chown youruser.youruser /path/to/file
[18:28] <yoritomo> hello
[18:29] <Surendil> s4my_: this will change back perms to user an be able to run transmission as normal user
[18:29] <yoritomo> is it xorg caring about the keyboard ? because when i restart x nothing changes to my keyboard
[18:30] <yoritomo> i have the bug of PS keyboards when going out from sleeping mode
[18:30] <yoritomo> some keys are death , arrows, CTRL Alt, keypad ...
[18:30] <yoritomo> needs always to restart completely the computer
[18:31] <s4my_> Surendil, you mean i have just to essue this command chown s4my.s4my Desktop/file
[18:32] <s4my_> Surendil, and by the way it's magnetic link
[18:32] <Surendil> s4my_: sudo chown s4my.s4my /home/s4my/Desktop/file
[18:33] <Surendil> and then be sure to always run preffered app as normal user
[18:34] <mikael> can anyone tell me what to do with my wifi connection?  It drops out every 5- 10 minutts.
[18:42] <s4my_> Surendil, well thanks again dude see you later mabe ! in the future
[18:44] <yoritomo> mikael, just the wiki connexion disconnecting or the whole network server crashing ?
[18:45] <OerHeks> mikael, what wifi adapter?
[18:45] <mikael> yoritomo: I don't know about the ethernet... i'm not able to use it. It's disabled.
[18:45] <OerHeks> random guessing is useless
[18:45] <ooko0> Whats the best and cheapest lamp stack hosting?
[18:45] <ooko0> dreamhost?
[18:45] <OerHeks> ooko0, wrong channel for that
[18:46] <ooko0> what channel should I be in?
[18:47] <mikael> OerHeks: lshw says vendor: Qualcomm Atheros
[18:47] <yoritomo> no model number ?
[18:48] <mikael> OerHeks: That was ethernet... wifi is Centrino Wireless from Intel
[18:48] <OerHeks> lspci or lsusb give you more info, look for the 8 digit hex ID number
[18:57] <jhutchins> lspci -nn
[18:58] <Ahmuck> http://pastebin.com/epF0v5QM - Odd apt error.
[18:58] <mikael> OerHeks: what number?
[18:58] <Ahmuck> E: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com utopic InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[18:58] <Ahmuck> really awkward, considering that the defaults are listed.
[19:00] <fahadash> I am trying to recover my lost password. I am on the LostPassword page. I do not know how to get the grub prompt, I am tapping on ESC and SHIFT, but boot proceeds through
[19:01] <squinty> mikael:  you may find it easier to install   inxi (system details python script)  and then issue the following command in a terminal.   inxi -Nnx    that will show you details pertaining to your nic/wireless settings
[19:01] <Goldwing> Ahmuck : you are not by any chance behind a proxy?
[19:01] <Ahmuck> not unless it's something new with my ISP
[19:02] <Ahmuck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/477906/cant-update-my-system-due-to-gpg-error-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nodat - going to try this
[19:02] <Goldwing> Ahmuck : ok
[19:02] <squinty> mikael:  you can install inxi by typing    sudo apt-get install inxi   see https://code.google.com/p/inxi/  for other inxi options
[19:03] <Ahmuck> Goldwing: i might try an outside proxy.  this would let me know if it was a local proxy problem, no?
[19:03] <squinty> fahadash:  you need to hold the relevant key down immediately after the initial boot splash has finished displaying
[19:04] <Ahmuck> Goldwing: fixed - Used Bleachbit and apt-get clean
[19:04] <fahadash> squinty, Initial boot splash is the one that says "Ubuntu" in a purple background with 6 dots animating ? And I have to *wait* for it to go away ?
[19:05] <squinty> fahadash: no
[19:05] <bubbasaures> with a vm, tapping the shift quickly from powering on is the best result
[19:05] <bubbasaures> repeatedly
[19:05] <squinty> fahadash:  when you turn the computer on the manufacturer's splash will be displayed..hold key after that
[19:06] <fahadash> let me try
[19:06] <dna113p> In xubuntu, I'm getting an error when trying to open several programs like firefox or gvim. Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/dj/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied
[19:06] <dna113p> and a bunch of Glib-Gobject-WARNINGs
[19:06] <dna113p> and the programs won't open
[19:07] <fahadash> I am using VMWare Workstation 9 on windows. It didn't really show me logo... But I continued to tap on SHIFT, it did nothing. But I did see Window's StickKeys popup even though my VM had the focus
[19:09] <squinty> fahadash:  might just want to consider booting straight through to desktop then and then edit grub config file to always displayed the grub menu when booting.  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2  for details
[19:11] <fahadash> squinty, I might have the non-root access, can I edit the grub conf ?
[19:12] <squinty> fahadash:  need admin rights to change.  :(
[19:13] <fahadash> How painful is the LiveCD process ?
[19:14] <Bantu___> squinty: yes you can .. just google it :)
[19:14] <mikael> squinty: It says eth0 state down... but how to get it up?
[19:14] <compdoc> process?
[19:14] <fahadash> I lost my root password
[19:14] <squinty> Bantu___:  can what?
[19:14] <bekks> !root | fahadash
[19:15] <k1l> !password | fahadash
[19:15] <squinty> kll: already been through that
[19:15] <bekks> squinty: Thats sufficient, since there is no root password.
[19:16] <squinty> bekks:  quite well aware of that thank you  afaik that is not the issue
[19:17] <Bantu___> fahadash: https://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/unlock-the-root-account-reset-the-root-password-change-username-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[19:17] <MKCoin> All of a sudden, several of my programs (like nautilus) are no longer showing their CPU usage; instead it seems to be counted as part of XOrg's CPU. is there a way for me to stop this behavior?>
[19:18] <fahadash> Bantu___, I have 12.0 LTS
[19:18] <freijon> MKCoin: how do you know this?
[19:18] <MKCoin> using top it shows; I mean, it seems they are using XOrg to allocate things which they didn't before.
[19:19] <MKCoin> It's not affecting performance or anything, just makes it harder for me to see which program is using what resources
[19:19] <squinty> fahadash: is your ubuntu install new?  if yes, then it might just be easier to reinstall (especially for a vm install)
[19:20] <Fr0Zn> hello
[19:20] <fahadash> squinty, Its not new, it has the build environment for my project. All the source code is safe at the Source Control... But there might still be some stuff that I probably should'nt lose
[19:20] <Bantu___> fahadash: jsut google u problem ..12.0 is old time .. no more suport from ubuntu i think
[19:21] <fahadash> Chuck_Norris is here. I should ask him to squash my password
[19:21] <fahadash> What is the LiveCD process to recover my password ?
[19:22] <teward> anyone know how I can get rid of dash search on internet sources on 14.04, and what packages I should go nuking?
[19:22] <squinty> teward:  you can just turn off the settins afaik
[19:23] <squinty> settings
[19:23] <pbx> teward, do the little buttons that switch that stuff on and off not stick for yhou?
[19:23] <teward> squinty: where?
[19:23] <pbx> teward, "Filter results" in upper right of dash window
[19:23] <teward> squinty: found it
[19:23] <teward> thanks
[19:23] <teward> pbx: squinty: actually the 'filter results' never worked
[19:23] <teward> i couldn't turn off the internet sources
[19:23] <teward> just tweaked it in Settings > Security & Privacy
[19:23] <josefnpat> I just downloaded `vivid-desktop-i386.iso` (The unity 8 preview) but I am stuck at the login manager: What's the livecd username/password?
[19:24] <teward> josefnpat: #ubuntu+1 for Vivid
[19:24] <vivid> yes, do that
[19:24] <josefnpat> teward: thanks
[19:24] <vivid> for me
[19:24]  * vivid thanks Canonical
[19:24] <josefnpat> vivid: haha
[19:24] <vivid> :D
[19:24] <squinty> teward: hmmm... worked here. can't stand the ruddy thing! :)
[19:25] <teward> squinty: that's why i want to remove those scopes and smart searches :/
[19:26] <fahadash> hey hey, I got a better news. I can go into my user's home directory through Guest session
[19:26] <fahadash> May be I should copy the data to an external drive
[19:26] <squinty> o,O
[19:27] <bekks> fahadash: Which password did you lose? The password of your user?
[19:27] <daft_> Hi all. How can install kde-plasma-Desktop on a netbook?
[19:28] <fahadash> bekks, The root and my user both
[19:28] <bekks> fahadash: There is no root password on Ubuntu.
[19:28] <bekks> fahadash: Just follow the instructions given by ubottu to recover your user password:
[19:28] <daft_> ow thaks #kubuntu sory
[19:28] <bekks> !password | fahadash
[19:29] <fahadash> bekks, I tried that. Holding down shift doesn't work. May be I should backup the data first
[19:29] <bekks> fahadash: "holding down shift"?
[19:30] <fahadash> I tried Holing and Tapping both
[19:30] <fahadash> I never see the grub menu
[19:30] <bekks> fahadash: Which Ubuntu are you on?
[19:31] <squinty> fahadash:  seems odd that "guest" account can access your "user" account....something not quite on there I suspect
[19:31] <Engraves> I need help. Everytime I power down my device it reboots after three seconds.
[19:32] <Engraves> I have the acer aspire v5 571 dual booting with win8.1
[19:32] <josefnpat> Engraves: have you tried `shutdown -h 0`?
[19:32] <Engraves> Yes
[19:33] <Engraves> There's nothing in my bios that stops it I tried messing around with it already.
[19:33] <Engraves> There's one thing that kind of fixed it but broke something else
[19:33] <Engraves> lemme send it to you
[19:33] <Engraves> http://blog.redbranch.net/2013/12/03/acer-aspire-reboots-on-ubuntu-shutdown/
[19:33] <Engraves> It let me shutdown but broke the reboot
[19:33] <Engraves> reboot doesn't turn back on
[19:35] <fahadash> squinty, Lucky for me
[19:35] <OerHeks> !info intel-microcode
[19:35] <bekks> fahadash: Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[19:35] <squinty> fahadash:  fwiw, I can access my grub menu in my virtualbox lubuntu install.  never tried vmware but would imagine it would be similiar
[19:36] <squinty> fahadash:  yes if you can grab your data that is a bonus for sure! lol
[19:36] <fahadash> squinty, How did you get to the grub menu ? I have 12.0 LTS
[19:36] <bekks> squinty: s/similar/the same/ :)
[19:36] <squinty> fahadash:  just held down the shift key as I would for a non vm
[19:37] <fahadash> Let me try that one more time once I have backed up the data
[19:37] <fahadash> Which version of ubuntu is the latest with LTS ?
[19:38] <bekks> fahadash: 14.04
[19:38] <A1Recon> Is there a way to read the messages which were displayed in the terminal for the past hour or so?
[19:38] <fahadash> Is it better than 12.0 in your opinion ?
[19:39] <bekks> fahadash: There is no better in terms of software. 12.04 is supported until 2017, 14.04 until 2019. Quote some time left for upgrading.
[19:39] <As4xk> Hi. I have a init.d script for btsync that works when i run "service btsync start". When i run "update-rc.d btsync defaults" i do not get any errors and the K20btsync files gets created in /etc/rcX. Still, when i reboot the computer, the btsync service don't start.
[19:40] <bekks> !upstart | As4xk
[19:41] <jhutchins> upstart is supposed to respect init scripts.
[19:41] <bryan> Hello guys how are you all doing?
[19:41] <squinty> A1Recon:  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/04/%23ubuntu.txt
[19:42] <Engraves> hey guest24471
[19:42] <squinty> A1Recon:  or the html version   http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/11/04/%23ubuntu.html
[19:43] <As4xk> init.d script should wtill work should it not? I think it might be because start-stop-daemon is told to start the daemon as user "btsync" which is an LDAP user. Can this be the reason?
[19:43] <curt> hey guys, I just installed and im having trouble with proprietary nvidia drivers, can someone point me in the right direction?
[19:43] <w9ux> hello everyone, the print screen button doesnt take screenshot..what could be the problem?
[19:43] <A1Recon> squinty: Find what exactly? Give me a keyword
[19:44] <bekks> squinty: I guess he refers to his console, not to IRC.
[19:45] <squinty> A1Recon:  bekks:   ahhh... mea culpa   thought you were refering to the channel here.  sorry  :(
[19:45] <curt> can someone point out a channel to ask about nvidia drivers?
[19:46] <squinty> #nvidia
[19:46] <A1Recon> squinty: Thanks anyway...I was wondering where the logs of this channel were...
[19:46] <bekks> !nvidia | curt
[19:47] <squinty> A1Recon:   :)
[19:49] <teward> i was able to cut down most of the online sources - but it's still showing Flickr, Picasa, Shotwell, and Facebook as online sources in my 14.04 dash - is there a way to get rid of those?
[19:49] <teward> (I got rid of pretty much everything else)
[19:50] <k1l> teward: super+a, then the last section: dash extensions. then click on them and deisable them
[19:50] <A1Recon> So, Is there a way to read the messages which were displayed in the terminal for the past hour or so?
[19:51] <AndChat370944> Ubuntu not loading after i enter my password. Just a blank screen. I pressed ctrl alt f1 and now i am in console
[19:51] <k1l> teward: maybe you need to diable them in the online-accounts setting, too. in system setting
[19:51] <AndChat370944> What can i check pleače advice
[19:54] <teward> k1l: that worked, thanks.
[19:54] <teward> i pretty much nuked most of the other plugins with a large apt-get purge, so meh.  thanks.
[19:56] <slower> bitch
[19:56] <Chuck_Norris> AndChat370944: do you have a nvidia or amd?
[19:57] <AndChat370944> Nvidia
[19:58] <AndChat370944> I just applied some settings for brightness for builtin intel
[19:58] <labeeb32> i am trying to share folders over network beween ubuntu and windows. I am trying ubuntu. no installation. its ubuntu 10.04 LTS. i i see ubuntuu's shared folder in windows but i cant open it. it gives me an error and says ti diagnose it. what should i do?
[19:58] <kevindf> I've set up a OpenVPN server (just with the regular tun interface, not tap) and everything connects smoothly with firewall disabled, but once I turn on my firewall again I can connect perfectly but it seems to refuse the routing with as result I have no internet access. I'(ve tried adding rules to iptables such as "-A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE" & "-t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"  but with no succe
[19:58] <AndChat370944> I guess i need to delete it
[19:58] <kevindf> I have iptables-persistent installed also
[19:59] <Chuck_Norris> AndChat370944: maybe "nomodeset" could help
[19:59] <AndChat370944> I dont know nomodeset. I ll google
[19:59] <Chuck_Norris> AndChat370944: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:59] <AndChat370944> Hard from smart phone
[20:00] <Chuck_Norris> but, you are in a TTY right?
[20:00] <labeeb32> i am trying to share folders over network beween ubuntu and windows. I am trying ubuntu. no installation. its ubuntu 10.04 LTS. i i see ubuntuu's shared folder in windows but i cant open it. it gives me an error and says ti diagnose it. what should i do?
[20:00] <AndChat370944> Yes
[20:00] <Chuck_Norris> ok so: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[20:00] <AndChat370944> Got there. Next
[20:02] <AndChat370944> I ve reoved conf file and it loads now
[20:02] <Chuck_Norris> in this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    add  "nomodeset"    so it looks like:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[20:03] <AndChat370944> Thanks helped me to remember about that conf file
[20:03] <Chuck_Norris> np
[20:04] <Chuck_Norris> AndChat370944:  then:   sudo update-grub
[20:04] <Linnak> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity in Virtualbox. Can I turn off the visual effects in Unity making it a little faster?
[20:05] <xangua> Linnak: or you could try a desktop enviroment that doesn't depend on compiz
[20:05] <skyfall> im having a booting issue in ubuntu 14.10
[20:06] <skyfall> sometimes im unable to boot into ubuntu
[20:06] <skyfall> it keeps on loading and nothing happens till i press the power button
[20:06] <labeeb32> i am trying to share folders over network beween ubuntu and windows. I am trying ubuntu. no installation. its ubuntu 10.04 LTS. i i see ubuntuu's shared folder in windows but i cant open it. it gives me an error and says ti diagnose it. what should i do?
[20:07] <skyfall> anybody ?
[20:07] <brucelee> what does ubuntu use to manage daemons? i know there are scripts in /etc/init.d/*
[20:07] <bekks> !upstart | brucelee
[20:07] <ikonia> labeeb32: i told you about this
[20:07] <skyfall> its showing "switching to PORT 3 , PORT 4 "
[20:08] <skyfall> messages while i choose the ubuntu . im dual booting ubuntu and windows
[20:08] <Linnak> xangua: Unity uses compiz. Is compiz built in Unity?
[20:08] <brucelee> bekks: does upstart only pertain to ubuntu or does centos use it too?
[20:08] <bekks> brucelee: Centos doesnt use upstart.
[20:08] <ikonia> it does actually
[20:08] <bekks> It does?
[20:08] <brucelee> ikonia: natively?
[20:08] <labeeb32> i did exactly same but now i cant enter the flder.
[20:08] <brucelee> or do you mean theres just a package for it
[20:08] <ikonia> brucelee: natively ??
[20:08] <ikonia> yes, the init system is upstart
[20:09] <bekks> ikonia: In centos? Since when?
[20:09] <brucelee> i thought everything is going towards systemd?
[20:09] <ikonia> brucelee: check it out
[20:09] <ikonia> bekks: check it out in 6
[20:09] <ikonia> 7 is systemd
[20:09] <brucelee> i see
[20:09] <brucelee> centos 5 is sysV right?
[20:09] <ikonia> why are we talking about centos ?
[20:09] <labeeb32> it gives me the error as network name cannot be found. error is 0*80070043
[20:10] <ikonia> labeeb32: I told you what to do
[20:10] <labeeb32> sorry 0*80070035
[20:11] <labeeb32> it says the name might be misspelle
[20:11] <labeeb32> misspelled
[20:12] <ikonia> labeeb32: I told you what to do
[20:13] <labeeb32> tell me my mistake plz
[20:15] <gordonjcp> evening
[20:15] <gordonjcp> is there a reason why eth0 loses its IP address every 30 seconds?
[20:16] <freijon> I'm sure there is a reason
[20:16] <ikonia> many reasons
[20:16] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, 2 machines with the same IP?
[20:16] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: hope
[20:16] <gordonjcp> *nope
[20:16] <imbezol> it's a security feature :)
[20:16] <tonyg_> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 and one of my office mates tried to login to the machine as a guest and now the system only boots to a black screen. says it can't connect to the x server in the logs. anybody have any ideas?
[20:16] <labeeb32> Plz help me
[20:16] <gordonjcp> one machine, a bunch of different wireless bridges, nothing connected to the far end of the bridge
[20:17] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.xx.99/24"
[20:17] <gordonjcp> where xx is the appropriate octet for that pair of bridges
[20:17] <Chuck_Norris> tonyg_:
[20:17] <gordonjcp> ... and I've got 29 seconds to log in and configure the bridge before the IP address is cleared
[20:17] <Chuck_Norris> sry
[20:17] <imbezol> labeeb32: if you google for 80070035 there are a number of threads that walk through some things to check with your windows config
[20:18] <imbezol> labeeb32: have you tried any of those? it's a generic network path error that could be caused by a number of things
[20:18] <labeeb32> it says network name not found
[20:18] <ikonia> labeeb32: did you do the ping test i told you to do?
[20:19] <imbezol> labeeb32: anyways.. you're going to have to do the footwork here and check all the possibilities
[20:19] <labeeb32> i see UBUNTU in windows network folder. i can enterit. then i see all mu ubuntu's shared folders. but i cannot enter any of them.
[20:19] <ikonia> labeeb32: did you do the ping test i told you to do?
[20:19] <skyfall> anybody there
[20:19] <skyfall> ?
[20:20] <labeeb32> honestly  i dont know how to do ping test. sorry
[20:20] <ikonia> labeeb32: so you hould have said that when i told you to do it
[20:20] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: any idea what else might also be trying to fiddle with the network settings?
[20:20] <Chuck_Norris> tonyg_: maybe .Xauthority was modified, tell us what gives you:  ls -l .Xauthority
[20:21] <labeeb32> yea sorry
[20:21] <imbezol> gordonjcp: are the IPs all in the same range? possible you could have a roque dhcp server?
[20:21] <imbezol> gordonjcp: you could try tcpdump on the interface to watch what system(s) offers an address
[20:21] <OerHeks> gordonjcp, with wireless bridges i have no clue, that 30 second sounds like a MTU
[20:22] <skyfall> hello
[20:22] <skyfall> nybdy ?
[20:22] <Aladiah> I cant install Nokuntu on Lubuntu 14.04 .Why ?
[20:23] <imbezol> skyfall: if you have a question just ask it
[20:23] <Killjoy> Killjoy
[20:23] <Killjoy> hello
[20:23] <skyfall> i asked it a couple of times
[20:23] <labeeb32> is ping test to do from ubuntu or windows?
[20:23] <Guest37798> guys i need help
[20:23] <teward> Aladiah: take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/406414/unable-to-install-nokia-pc-suite-nokuntu-on-13-10-14-04 maybe
[20:23] <skyfall> i cant boot into ubuntu sometimes
[20:23] <teward> Aladiah: maybe that'll help
[20:24] <Chuck_Norris> Aladiah: paste us error messages
[20:24] <Guest37798> i recently installed pantheon and it didn't work
[20:24] <Guest37798> nothing worked
[20:24] <Chuck_Norris> oh! already answered
[20:24] <skyfall> sometimes it keeps on loading
[20:24] <fahadash> squinty, I am now going to try holding down Shift key
[20:24] <teward> Aladiah: keep in mind it's no longer developed though.
[20:24] <genii> !info pantheon
[20:24] <Guest37798> after that  i had shut down
[20:24] <skyfall> what might be the problem ?
[20:24] <genii> Hm.
[20:24] <Guest37798> and boot 2 ubuntu
[20:24] <Aladiah> teward thats the error that gives to me. i already tryed that solution but it dont work
[20:24] <teward> Aladiah: and because of it using an old runtime, that is no longer in 14.04, you might have issues
[20:24] <Guest37798> but then
[20:24] <skyfall> imbezol :
[20:24] <fahadash> squinty, Surprisingly it worked. I am on grub menu
[20:25] <teward> Aladiah: what errors do you get when you try that solution?
[20:25] <Guest37798> i have pantheons background AND INTERFACE AND MY FILES ARE MISSING from my desktop
[20:25] <Guest37798> sry for caps didnt know it was on
[20:25] <Aladiah> when i try to install all those packages , then on package dont install
[20:25] <genii> Guest37798: Sounds like you're probably running Elementary OS and not stock Ubuntu
[20:25] <Guest37798> after that
[20:25] <gordonjcp> imbezol: no systems offer an address
[20:25] <teward> Aladiah: pastebin the error messages, don't just say it doesn't do something.
[20:25] <genii> ( or some mix of the two)
[20:25] <teward> !pastebin > Aladiah
[20:25] <imbezol> skyfall: do you just see the graphical loading screen? or the console?
[20:25] <Guest37798> i tried usin sudo apt remove pantheon
[20:25] <Guest37798> it said i removed pantheon
[20:26] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I'm not sure what MTU would be in this context
[20:26] <skyfall> graphical
[20:26] <OerHeks> Aladiah, According to the SourceForge page, the development of Nokuntu has stopped, so it was newer updated to use the Gambas 3 runtime.
[20:26] <Guest37798> but its still on the log list
[20:26] <skyfall> sometimes only.
[20:26] <ikonia> mtu wouldn't cause an interface to drop
[20:26] <Guest37798> and i still have these issues
[20:26] <gordonjcp> ikonia: nope
[20:26] <imbezol> skyfall: have you tried hitting escape to see the console and any messages that might be there?
[20:26] <ikonia> it would cause incomplete packets
[20:26] <ikonia> so dont waste time on mtu
[20:26] <Guest37798> how do I FIX HELP PLS ASAP!!!!!!!
[20:26] <skyfall> the ubuntu keeps on loading
[20:26] <ikonia> Guest37798: use elementry os support
[20:26] <ikonia> Guest37798: you are not running ubuntu
[20:26] <acovrig> Has anyone gotten vfio-pci working?
[20:26] <Aladiah> teward :  this what happens  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8824273/
[20:26] <skyfall> i cant get into anything.
[20:26] <Guest37798> I AM i selected it on the log list
[20:26] <gordonjcp> ikonia: a workaround is to run (as root) "watch ifconfig eth0 192.168.xx.99/24"
[20:27] <Guest37798> HOW TO FIX?????
[20:27] <gordonjcp> ikonia: but really I shouldn't have to do that
[20:27] <skyfall> im dual booting windows and ubuntu
[20:27] <ikonia> gordonjcp: agreed,
[20:27] <skyfall> using easy BCD
[20:27] <ikonia> gordonjcp: is the interface being set by dhcp ?
[20:27] <ikonia> skyfall: bcd is nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:27] <gordonjcp> ikonia: no
[20:27] <Guest37798> how to ix?
[20:27] <ikonia> gordonjcp: how is it getting set
[20:27] <fahadash> I got my ubuntu on Rescue Mode, I ran passwd user, I supplied my password and I got 'Autentication Token Manipulation Error' why ?
[20:27] <gordonjcp> ikonia: there's nothing for it to pick DHCP up from
[20:27] <ikonia> Guest37798: join the elementary OS channel and ask for help
[20:27] <skyfall> yeah. i know. i created a boot entry for ubuntu
[20:27] <skyfall> from windows.
[20:28] <gordonjcp> ikonia: by me typing "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.xx.99/24" where xx is set for the pair of bridges I want to configure
[20:28] <Guest37798> how do i jon elementary os support
[20:28] <skyfall> using easy BCD
[20:28] <ikonia> gordonjcp: sorry I'm missing a bit of background info
[20:28] <teward> Aladiah: i'd suggest maybe hunting other software - Nokuntu is no longer developed so that may be one problem.
[20:28] <ikonia> gordonjcp: so these are not physical interfaces, they are bridge devices, correct ?
[20:28] <gordonjcp> ikonia: no worries; I am setting up a whole bunch of wireless bridges which are numbered 192.168.<some value>.<some value>
[20:28] <bubbasaures> skyfall, We can't help with the easybcd boot, what other options do you have in mind?
[20:28] <Aladiah> Teward do you kknow some good one that work ?
[20:29] <gordonjcp> ikonia: no, these are physical pieces of equipment, microwave links
[20:29] <skyfall> i dont know. i want to know why im getting this issue.
[20:29] <skyfall> and to solve it.
[20:29] <Aladiah> Because xGnoki that comes in app center dont run too
[20:29] <ikonia> gordonjcp: so what is the name (device file) of the interface in this example
[20:29] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Can you boot windows?
[20:29] <ikonia> eg: br0, eth0,
[20:29] <Aladiah> teward
[20:29] <gordonjcp> ikonia: on the device? em1, but that's irrelevant
[20:30] <skyfall> yeah. i have no issue with windows. but recent probolem i noted with windows is its time and date is getting changed automatically
[20:30] <squinty> fahadash: you need to remount the drive r/w   see (or similiar when googling for that error message)  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/
[20:30] <ikonia> gordonjcp: just seeing what the OS thinks it is,
[20:30] <gordonjcp> ikonia: the laptop I have plugged into it to program them is losing its IP address every 30 seconds
[20:30] <ikonia> gordonjcp: so walk me through, you boot the machine, does it get an IP address at all ?
[20:30] <gordonjcp> ikonia: not for eth0, but that's because there's nothing connected
[20:30] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Than there is not much we can do, unless you want to use the linux dual booting grub.
[20:30] <mojtaba> Hi, I need to install windows beside ubuntu, I tried to fix the grub after that, using boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso, but it just removed windows from the grub list, do you know how can I fix it?
[20:30] <ikonia> gordonjcp: no for em1
[20:31] <ikonia> gordonjcp: does em1 get an address at all
[20:31] <skyfall> how to use the linux dual booting grub ?
[20:31] <mojtaba> should I re-install windows? ( :( )
[20:31] <skyfall> can you be more specific ?
[20:31] <gordonjcp> ikonia: uhm
[20:31] <skyfall> what is it for ?
[20:31] <fahadash> Thanks squinty I got my password fixed now
[20:31] <gordonjcp> ikonia: back up  a minute
[20:31] <bubbasaures> mojtaba, Did you save the bootinfo summary?
[20:31]  * fahadash smooches squinty and bekks
[20:31] <ikonia> gordonjcp: no problem, take your time
[20:31] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba: do you got a terminal there?
[20:31] <gordonjcp> em1 is the interface on the box of equipment; it's not the problem
[20:31] <squinty> fahadash:  good to hear  :)
[20:31] <fahadash> Thank you guys
[20:31] <bubbasaures> !grub | skyfall
[20:31] <mojtaba> bubbasaures: from that boot-repair disk?
[20:31] <labeeb32> help me plz
[20:31] <ikonia> gordonjcp: ok, so which device is having the problem.
[20:31] <mojtaba> Chuck_Norris: I am now in ubuntu
[20:31] <gordonjcp> ikonia: the microwave bridge can be considered to be a black box that we don't care about, the laptop is the problem
[20:32] <bubbasaures> mojtaba, Yes, it pops up a url and tells you to save it.
[20:32] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba: sudo update-grub
[20:32] <ikonia> gordonjcp: understood
[20:32] <Guest37798> no one at \#elementary
[20:32] <gordonjcp> ikonia: there's my laptop, a switch, and a box I want to program over the network
[20:32] <ikonia> gordonjcp: with you
[20:32] <gordonjcp> ikonia: the laptop has a boring old Intel onboard chipset ethernet port, eth0
[20:32] <mojtaba> bubbasaures: I did not have access to internet, so unfortunately, I do not have that.
[20:32] <ikonia> gordonjcp: with you so far
[20:32] <gordonjcp> I set that with "sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24" say
[20:32] <mojtaba> Chuck_Norris: Will it give me windows in the list?
[20:33] <ikonia> gordonjcp: so when you boot the laptop, does it get an IP address at all, or just stay blank
[20:33] <skyfall> my primary os is windows and i installed ubuntu in another partition. as i dont know how to install the boot loader, i created a boot entry using a software called Easy BCD
[20:33] <Chuck_Norris> most possible
[20:33] <bubbasaures> mojtaba, Ah, have you tries the sudo update-grub from the ubuntu install?
[20:33] <zteam> mojtaba try to run sudo update-grub and make sure your windows drive is plugged in as well, hopefully this will get Windows back into the boot-menu
[20:33] <gordonjcp> ikonia: it stays blank, until I set it
[20:33] <bubbasaures> tried*
[20:33] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba:  most probably
[20:33] <skyfall> any other suggestions ?
[20:33] <ikonia> gordonjcp: ok, are you expecting it to get a dhcp address ?
[20:33] <gordonjcp> nope
[20:33] <mojtaba> Chuck_Norris: is it grub or grub2?
[20:33] <squinty> Guest37798:  says there is 106 participants in that channel here
[20:33] <ikonia> gordonjcp: are you expecting it to get an address, or are you expecting to manually set it
[20:33] <Chuck_Norris> try just grub
[20:33] <gordonjcp> there's nothing for it to get a DHCP address from
[20:33] <Guest37798> and no one is typing
[20:34] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba: try just grub
[20:34] <ikonia> gordonjcp: ok, so you're expecting to set it
[20:34] <mojtaba> zteam, you mean I should mount the windows drive?
[20:34] <ikonia> gordonjcp: but when you set it, it drops the address correct ?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> ikonia: I'm setting it manually, with the command I mentioned a few lines ago; this worksfor about 30 seconds then drops
[20:34] <mojtaba> Chuck_Norris: Should I mount the win drive before that?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> it's the weirdest thing
[20:34] <ikonia> gordonjcp: ok, can you pastebin your interfaces file ?
[20:34] <ikonia> gordonjcp: appreciate there should be nothing in there - but lets check the basics
[20:34] <bubbasaures> skyfall, So what happens when you choose ubuntu in the menu, and can we confirm it did work.
[20:34] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba:  that is in the case that windows is installed in another HD
[20:35] <mojtaba> Chuck_Norris: no, it is in the same HDD, but unmounted
[20:35] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Note I address you with your nick prefaced.
[20:35] <Chuck_Norris> so: sudo update-grub will do it for you
[20:35] <gordonjcp> ikonia: not readily since that particular machine has no internet connection either, but there's nothing in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:35] <squinty> Guest37798:   in that channel type  /topic    read and understand what it says
[20:35] <skyfall> when grub2 appears, i can select ubuntu from it. but after i choose it, it keeps on loading
[20:35] <gordonjcp> ikonia: not *nothing* nothing, but nothing different from default
[20:35] <zteam> mojtaba, I would have that one mounted yes: then just run sudo update-grub
[20:35] <Aladiah> How to run a windows virtual box in Lubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:35] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba: np, if its is unmounted then
[20:35] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I assume the loop back address is configured i nthere ?
[20:36] <gordonjcp> ikonia: yes, it's exactly a default interfaces file
[20:36] <labeeb32> ikonia..
[20:36] <ikonia> gordonjcp: ok, is network manager enabled ?
[20:36] <gordonjcp> ikonia: ah, yes, maybe I should disable that for now
[20:36] <zteam> mojtaba, hopefully that will re-add Windows to Grubs list, but I'm not sure
[20:36] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Do you have a live ubuntu iso on a disk or usb?
[20:36] <mojtaba> It is done, I will reboot to see what happened. Chuck_Norris, zteam: thank you very much
[20:36] <labeeb32> ikonia plz help me
[20:36] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I suspect network manager is dhcp'ing
[20:36] <gordonjcp> ikonia: I bet it's that
[20:36] <labeeb32> how to do png test
[20:36] <squinty> Aladiah:  install virtualbox via the ubuntu repo's   comes in two flavours   oracles and open source
[20:37] <OerHeks> Aladiah, install virtualbox, and run it to install windows https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[20:37] <Chuck_Norris> mojtaba: yeah, reboot
[20:37] <zteam> mojtaba, you are welcome
[20:37] <zteam> :-)
[20:37] <gordonjcp> ikonia: ... and dnsmasq is set for a 30 second timeout
[20:37] <skyfall> yeah. i have it
[20:37] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I think we have a winner....
[20:37] <skyfall> i dont know what u meant by live
[20:37] <skyfall> i have my ubutnu 14.04 LTS setup
[20:37] <squinty> Aladiah:  there is a specific virtualbox channel available here on the freenode irc network called #vbox
[20:38] <skyfall> in my usb that i used to install ubuntu
[20:38] <gordonjcp> ikonia: think I'm going to go and teach some people a few Gaelic words they've never heard before
[20:38] <Novice201y> Hello. How can I set time in terminal using SNTP?
[20:38] <squinty> lol
[20:38] <ikonia> gordonjcp: good work, sorry it went a bit around the houses
[20:38] <gordonjcp> ikonia: that's exactly it, that's fixed it
[20:38] <gordonjcp> ikonia: nope, it's always useful to bounce an idea around when you're stuck
[20:39] <gordonjcp> ikonia: and tomorrow I get to put a couple of them here -> http://i.imgur.com/vcZR0ks.jpg
[20:39] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Part of the problem here is windows, they have changed the file system and added a uefi bios, this makes booting more complex, this sound familiar to you?
[20:40] <skyfall> no
[20:40] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Also use my nick, when you address me, you can tab complete nicks here.
[20:41] <bubbasaures> skyfall, Ah okay, well for us to possibly help you that info is pertinent, we can confirm this from the live ubuntu though, can you boot it and come to the channel on it?
[20:42] <skyfall> bubbo:let me see
[20:42] <bubbasaures> skyfall, type bubb hit the tab and it will correctly finish my nick.
[20:43] <fruitz> anybody had screen brightness problems after upgrading?
[20:43] <skyfall> bubbasaures, yes i get it,thanks
[20:43] <martin1969> hello. i have a puzzling problem. i have a logitech speakers and sometimes i have the headphone hooked up to it. whenever i unplug the headphone the screen would turn black with text, asking me for user name and password. what gives?
[20:43] <bubbasaures> fruitz, To vague, tell us your issue.
[20:43] <fruitz> mine is stuck at 100% and i cannot change it
[20:43] <fruitz> i tried with xbacklight and xrandr
[20:43] <bubbasaures> skyfall, cool, just keeps us communicating with notifications. ;)
[20:43] <MrQvik> Geocaching?
[20:43] <skyfall> bubbasaures, sure.
[20:44] <skyfall> bubbasaures, im just new to ubuntu . thats why.
[20:45] <fruitz> its strange bcos xbacklight does change the value (i check with xbacklight -get)
[20:45] <fruitz> but the screen brightness stays the same
[20:49] <mozzarella> what's a good pdf viewer for ubuntu
[20:49] <mozzarella> evince won't let me sign my document
[20:49] <bekks> mozzarella: Adobe Acrobat Reader.
[20:51] <mozzarella> bekks: where can I download it
[20:51] <arendyl> Hello. Is this a good chat for technical help?
[20:51] <OerHeks> mozzarella, only editors will i guess, like master pdf editor in softwarecenter
[20:52] <trijntje> arendyl: yep, ask away
[20:53] <Walsh> hey guys, anyone managed to get Virgin Media Anywhere working on Linux?
[20:53] <bekks> mozzarella: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455135/how-do-i-install-adobe-acrobat-reader-from-the-repository
[20:53] <arendyl> Thanks. Im trying to install chrubuntu on my new toshiba chromebook 2, IPS model, and have had no success. I have followed the guide in this http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/04/chrubuntu-1204-now-with-double-bits.html, but i feel the process may be different for the chromebook 2
[20:53] <arendyl> does anyone have any idea the process I should go through?
[20:54] <arendyl> Made a forums post too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2251393&p=13159529#post13159529
[21:00] <after_r> Hello can someone please tell me why my `rsyslogd` crashes when i use a expression like in http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_conf_filter.html in one of my files in /etc/rsyslog.d/ ??
[21:01] <after_r> I just have one file that has `if $programname == "lpfw" then { }` and then when I do `service rsyslog restart` it doesnt start
[21:01] <after_r> there is no PID,... no running process or nothing
[21:01] <after_r> but when I comment it out it runs
[21:01] <after_r> is that type of configuration turned off or something?
[21:01] <after_r> do i have to enable it?
[21:02] <after_r> or why
[21:02] <after_r> when I use the `RainerScript` expression
[21:04] <after_r> anyone?
[21:04] <after_r> I am try to log a message that has one word but does not have a different word
[21:06] <treehug88> after_r: maybe it logs something into /var/log somewhere (re: rsyslogd)
[21:06] <ChrisD24> Any advice on a MacBook Pro 2011 Trackpad? I turned of tap to click - that is annoying. But it just seems weird (best I can explain). Jumpy so to speak. Anyone with a MPB have any experience?
[21:06] <after_r> ChrisD24: man synclient
[21:07] <ChrisD24> What does that do?
[21:07] <gordonjcp> ChrisD24: gives you the manual for the synaptics touchpad driver client
[21:08] <ChrisD24> Ok - I'll try but I don't see a manual helping. There are limited options I can choose from.
[21:11] <bwallum> Hello, does deja dup back up hidden files by default?
[21:11] <curt> hi guys, fresh install of 14.04 and when I try to use nvidia 331 my system keeps freezing forcing me to hard reset
[21:11] <curt> happens 10-15 mins after booting
[21:18] <after_r> this isnt working
[21:18] <after_r> the error rsyslogd is giving me is: 5800.586775479:7fd430cab780: Called LogError, msg: error during parsing file /etc/rsyslog.d/30-lpfw.conf, on or before line 12: syntax error on token '}'
[21:18] <b100s> hi2all
[21:18] <after_r> but I thought if { ... } is supported?
[21:18] <b100s> is it possible to update only one installed software?
[21:19] <b100s> not all system like apt-get update|upgrade
[21:19] <x0fis> hi. I just installed ubuntu server on my local machine. I can't connect to root@machine throught ssh, in it says Failed password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> port 44632 ssh2. password for root is created(passwd from root). non-superuser works. What can cause this? thanks
[21:20] <b100s> x0fis, try to allow root connect by ssh
[21:20] <b100s> its disabled by default
[21:20] <x0fis> in it-in /var/log/auth.log
[21:22] <x0fis> b100s: It's added PermitRootLogin yes to /etc/ssh/ssh_config, then /etc/init.d/ssh reload and same result
[21:22] <Squantiff> Hello
[21:23] <Squantiff> Can someone help me with my xserver error please?
[21:23] <Squantiff> It says no screens found
[21:23] <Squantiff> But lspci shows I have a VGA compatible controller
[21:24] <x0fis> b100s: apt-get install --only-upgrade <packagename>
[21:24] <daftykins> Squantiff: can you detail the system a little more please? (on one line preferably)
[21:25] <Squantiff> What do you mean by detail the system?
[21:25] <daftykins> type (desk/laptop) ubuntu version, hardware...
[21:25] <Squantiff> Laptop, lubuntu 14.04, Acer C720
[21:26] <daftykins> ah so chromebook
[21:26] <Squantiff> Yes
[21:26] <Squantiff> It was working fine
[21:26] <daftykins> until?
[21:26] <Squantiff> But I output through HDMI only
[21:26] <Squantiff> And then restarted
[21:26] <Squantiff> Disabled main display
[21:26] <Squantiff> Can I command line edit some config files to correct this issue?
[21:26] <labeeb32> i am trying to share folders over network beween ubuntu and windows. I am trying ubuntu. no installation. its ubuntu 10.04 LTS. i i see ubuntuu's shared folder in windows but i cant open it. it gives me an error and says ti diagnose it. what should i do?
[21:27] <daftykins> Squantiff: well you're not really being very clear still, are you saying it stopped working after an upgrade?
[21:27] <Squantiff> It stopped working after a reboot
[21:27] <daftykins> alright so did you entirely wipe ChromeOS on this thing?
[21:27] <Squantiff> Yes
[21:28] <Squantiff> The entire drive is wiped and encrypted
[21:28] <daftykins> alright install pastebinit, then run "lspci | pastebinit"
[21:28] <daftykins> oh encryption too. jeez
[21:28] <OerHeks> labeeb32, 10.04 desktop?
[21:28] <labeeb32> yes
[21:28] <Squantiff> It accepts the encryption password just fine
[21:28] <labeeb32> LTS
[21:28] <daftykins> Squantiff: run the above please
[21:28] <labeeb32> i dont know about desktop
[21:29] <OerHeks> labeeb32, that one is getting no updates for over a year now
[21:29] <labeeb32> i idont know im just trying it
[21:29] <labeeb32> i want to recover data from my hard
[21:29] <Squantiff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825019/
[21:29] <labeeb32> ubuntu 14 dowsnt show my data
[21:29] <labeeb32> so i have to use this version
[21:31] <labeeb32> lucid lynx
[21:32] <daftykins> Squantiff: ok and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:32] <raschy> so i've managed to bork unity on  my machine
[21:32] <OerHeks> labeeb32, you might want to try 12.04 lts, still supported with updates, there you might be able to install samba utils
[21:32] <labeeb32> 12.04 is latest?
[21:33] <Squantiff> quick side question, how do I exit vi?
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> labeeb32: 14.10 is the latest.
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Squantiff: [ :q ]
[21:33] <labeeb32> ok
[21:33] <bubbasaures> raschy, unity/compiz have resets, look for the one on your release.
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> labeeb32: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/download
[21:33] <labeeb32> 12.04 lucid lynx or precise pangolin?
[21:33] <daftykins> Squantiff: escape, :q! enter
[21:34] <edrocks> what should I use to run something at startup in 14.04?
[21:34] <teward> labeeb32: 12.04 is precise - that's the previous LTS - 14.04 is the latest LTS
[21:34] <Squantiff> ty
[21:34] <teward> edrocks: startup as in, at boot time, or at login time?
[21:34] <daftykins> Squantiff: use nano if you're not experienced with vi
[21:34] <labeeb32> so u say is precise pangolin?
[21:34] <after_r> i got it
[21:34] <bubbasaures> edrocks, depends on what it is, apps can be in startup applications
[21:34] <Squantiff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8825109/
[21:34] <edrocks> I think boot time i need to run an agent
[21:34] <OerHeks> !precise
[21:35] <daftykins> Squantiff: line 20 tells you your manual edit typo ;)
[21:35] <bubbasaures> edrocks, You will need to detail your situation and end goal to get help.
[21:35] <labeeb32> cani ask why didnt u tell me to download 14.10?
[21:35] <Squantiff> You caught that huh? :P
[21:35] <labeeb32> i mean 14.04
[21:35] <daftykins> Squantiff: i'm sharp, me ;)
[21:35] <edrocks> bubbasaures: I need to make sure a program which listens on a specific port is always running even after restarts
 ubuntu 14 dowsnt show my data
[21:36] <labeeb32> right.
[21:36] <Loshki> edrocks: the last thing to execute before greeting the user is /etc/rc.local
[21:36] <bubbasaures> edrocks, little better, the channel is your best help, not myself in this area, name the software involved is all probably.
[21:37] <labeeb32> so am i able to share folders from ubuntu trry in windows to transfer data?
[21:37] <labeeb32> i mean i cant enter shared folders in indows
[21:37] <edrocks> bubbasaures: i just need something to look up. It seems like theres several "service" or init systems between the different versions of ubuntu
[21:37] <bubbasaures> edrocks, Ah, you're phishing. ;)
[21:38] <OerHeks> labeeb32, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[21:38] <sparr> megasasctl -v says that a bunch of my drives don't exist, as if they aren't plugged in. the drives are there. why can't it see them? some configuration changes may have been made since the last time the array was active and the drives were in use
[21:39] <edrocks> bubbasaures: ahh just found what i was looking for systemd
[21:39] <Squantiff> I just tried to type startx now after fixing that typo and it's just a black screen
[21:39] <jimmy51_> running 14.04.  don't have any types of VPN's listed as options when I try to create a connectiong in Network Manager.  I have network-manager-openconnect-gnome and openconnect packages installed.  what am i missing?
[21:39] <Squantiff> How do I go back to command promp?
[21:39] <edrocks> o never mind i guess ubuntu still uses upstart in 14.04
[21:40] <daftykins> Squantiff: that's not how you should really be doing it, also that doesn't appear to be ubuntu at all (at least not official) ctrl+alt+F1 for a TTY.
[21:41] <jimmy51_> !vpn
[21:43] <jimmy51_> seems odd that no VPN connection types are listed
[21:43] <raschy2> So when I log into unity I only get a wallpaper, no panel or dash
[21:44] <raschy2> Xfce works, tried to reinstall unity to no avail
[21:44] <Eleuin> raschy, did you by any chance install the proprietary drivers (fglrx)?
[21:44] <Squantiff> daftykins, would it help to uninstall and reinstall x?
[21:44] <Eleuin> not sure of the name of the nvidia ones
[21:45] <raschy2> I installed the proprietary nvidia drivers
[21:45] <raschy2> I tried installing the latest nvidia drivers, then uninstalled them when they weren't working well
[21:46] <raschy2> Reinstalled the proprietary ones from the Ubuntu repo
[21:46] <daftykins> Squantiff: no. either fix the edits in xorg.conf, or "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" to ignore your edits completely
[21:48] <Eleuin> really does sound like xorg breakage caused by the graphics drivers
[21:49] <Squantiff> daftykins, I rebooted after making the changes in VI and everything works
[21:49] <Squantiff> Well, seems to
[21:49] <raschy2> Alright so how do I go about unbreakable xorg
[21:49] <raschy2> *unbreaking
[21:49] <Squantiff> Thank you for your help and your patience with a noobie such as my self. I appreciate it.
[21:50] <Eleuin> i will be right back
[21:50] <labeeb32> wheredo i find settings as windows client for samba? i mean on samba website?
[21:52] <daftykins> Squantiff: no problemo, enjoy!
[21:52] <squinty> labeeb32:  maybe try asking in the #samba channel here on freenode irc network
[21:53] <Squantiff> Any chance you'd want to help me make it so the function keys on this chromebook work like they're supposed to? i.e. volume/brightness up/down, fullscreen, etc
[21:53] <jhutchins> !chromebook
[21:53] <jhutchins> Squantiff: I think there is a page about chromebooks on the ubuntu wiki
[21:55] <fes> do you know what packages are needed to use gnome 3.14 and wayland? i have installed gnome 3.14 through ppa's
[21:57] <daftykins> Squantiff: nah that'd be device specific knowledge and not something i'm into
[21:57] <Squantiff> Fair enough.
[21:59] <Squantiff> Would it make any sense for me to install GRUB2 if I have GRUB installed?
[22:00] <Vinixie> Hey
[22:02] <Eleuin> Squantiff: you still have GRUB legacy?
[22:03] <squinty> Squantiff:  might want to see if any of the "Improvements" relate to your needs  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Improvements
[22:03] <Squantiff> I'm not even sure what that means
[22:03] <Eleuin> GRUB2 has been the default bootloader for a couple LTS releases though
[22:03] <Squantiff> I just know my install won't boot unless I have the USB stick that I used to install it with plugged in
[22:04] <Squantiff> My swap is encrypted with a random key. Could it be that that key is on that USB?
[22:06] <Eleuin> Squantiff: how did you set up Ubuntu?
[22:07] <Eleuin> because it sounds like you didn't install a bootloader on your hard drive
[22:07] <Squantiff> I specifically remember choosing to install GRUB on the harddrive
[22:07] <Squantiff> This is the tutorial I followed verbatim http://www.circuidipity.com/c720-lubuntubook-install.html
[22:08] <raschy2> Alright so I've discovered that unity works for guest accounts and not for my own
[22:08] <daftykins> you probably booted when the hard disk was sdb and the flash drive was sda unknowingly
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Squantiff: ^^ Eleuin . What returns -> sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub <- ?
[22:09] <Squantiff> Bashing-om, it says /dev/sda1
[22:09] <ObrienDave> sda1 is a partition. should have used sda
[22:10] <guig33k> i don t understand a friend to me have 14.04 LTS and upgrade to 14.10 and he have only mouse and the screen on unity
[22:10] <guig33k> i don t know if it s the fglrx driver which make pb
[22:10] <Eleuin> ^^ bootloader goes on the GPT on sda
[22:10] <k1l> guig33k: make sure the video driver is working
[22:11] <CoC_towlie> what is the major change in 14.10? systemd?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Squantiff: IF 'sda' is the hard drive AND the partition scheme is MBR, that is the correct location AND in bios you have set to boot the 1st hard drive as 1st boot priority.
[22:11] <k1l> guig33k: if he loaded the driver from some website that is the problem
[22:11] <guig33k> k1l: no
[22:11] <raschy2> Ya so I've got unity not working as well, cept the driver works cause xfce works
[22:12] <Squantiff> sda is the hard drive and sda1 is where /boot is
[22:12] <guig33k> he reinstall the 14.04 and upgrade to 14.10 withou installing fglrx and it s work
[22:12] <Eleuin> uh, lol
[22:12] <guig33k> and he install fglrx driver after and it s work
[22:12] <guig33k> there are a pb somewhere
[22:12] <guig33k> but we don t know what
[22:13] <sparr> I'm standing in front of a server with two failed drives in a RAID. How can I identify which drives they are, physically?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Squantiff: ObrienDave : sysop@1404mini:~$ sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub >> /dev/sda1 . Where my primary OS is the 1st HD, - sda1 is the location of grub's config file for the final stages - I think.
[22:13] <Eleuin> hmh
[22:14] <wwat> hi guys. my laptop refuses to boot into linux installations. it boots fine into *live* linux distributions, but not to installations. i've tried a bunch of different distributions. What could be wrong? screen goes black right after the bios stuff. it doesn't even recognize that there is a bootable device
[22:15] <Squantiff> sda1 is JUST for /boot, sda2 is a randomly encrypted swap file, and sda3 is my OS
[22:16] <daftykins> wwat: make and model?
[22:16] <Bashing-om> wwat: !nomodeset | wwat try this and see what results:
[22:16] <wwat> daftykins: dell latitude e6510
[22:17] <daftykins> wwat: if you installed with updates enabled, try Bashing-om's suggestion
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu 12.04, unity 2d, i'm unable to set alt-f2, it's in italics, not sure why -- the other keyboard shortcuts can be set -- just not the ones in italics -- hints & tips please http://imgur.com/wYfWkVz
[22:18] <wwat> daftykins: i installed without a network mirror or whatever it's called. does that matter?
[22:19] <wwat> Bashing-om: ok i'll try thanks
[22:19] <mach20x> Trying to link Ubuntu to hardware resources via chroot to enable framebuffer for interface on my android device
[22:20] <Airbander> how can i show all files end ".iso" and i have in my pc
[22:20] <jq-> Hey, so my ethernet is connected and I have a local ip, but I have no internet access. What else can I check?
[22:20] <wwat> Bashing-om: daftykins however, if that nomodeset thing was the problem, isn't it odd that i sometimes (depending on how i try to boot) get an error message that no bootable device is found?
[22:20] <labeeb32> i booted ubuntu 12.04precise and i dont want to install it. i want to try it. i want to reover my data. what option should i chooose?
[22:20] <mach20x> daftykins: any suggestions
[22:21] <Airbander> i downloaded a OP but i forget where i save it and it's a iso file how find it and thanks " info: i have only one hard drive"
[22:21] <daftykins> mach20x: sorry not interested
[22:21] <daftykins> wwat: use the F12 boot menu to explicitly select your hard disk
[22:21] <wwat> daftykins: yeah i've tried that
[22:21] <labeeb32> i booted ubuntu 12.04precise and i dont want to install it. i want to try it. i want to reover my data. what option should i chooose?
[22:21] <tgm4883> labeeb32: live mode wouldn't do any installation unless you tell it to
[22:21] <daftykins> wwat: what OS did this Dell come with? did you wipe it entirely?
[22:21] <tgm4883> Airbander: is it not in the Downloads folder?
[22:22] <Airbander> nope i forget where i mv
[22:22] <Bashing-om> wwat: "sometimes (depending on how i try to boot) get an error message that no  bootable device is found?
[22:22] <EriC^^> Airbander: sudo find / -iname "*.iso"
[22:22] <mach20x> Thanks for being upfront, at the least daftykins
[22:22] <labeeb32> it asks me following options. install ubuntu server, multiple server install with MAAS< check disk for defects< test memory< boot from first hard dik< back< expert< rescue a broken system
[22:23] <wwat> daftykins: i use different hard drives. i've tried both usb drives and random hdd drives. as i said, booting them works with live linux distros, but not installations
[22:23] <Airbander> thanks
[22:23] <Airbander> the command find
[22:23] <Bashing-om> wwat: ^^ indicates to me a problem with grub fining it's config files.
[22:23] <Airbander> cool
[22:23] <tgm4883> labeeb32: what are you trying to do?
[22:23] <labeeb32> i want to try it
[22:23] <daftykins> wwat: yes, you don't need to repeat yourself :) EFI or legacy install then?
[22:23] <labeeb32> live
[22:23] <jq-> My ethernet is connected and I have a local ip, but I have no internet access. What else can I check?
[22:23] <tgm4883> labeeb32: server doesn't have a live mode
[22:23] <wwat> Bashing-om: yeah.. i've never gotten as far as to the grub selection screen
[22:23] <tgm4883> labeeb32: you want to grab the desktop version
[22:24] <daftykins> labeeb32: you downloaded the wrong one. you want desktop, not server
[22:24] <Airbander> coool
[22:24] <Airbander> i love linux
[22:24] <tgm4883> jq-: DNSD
[22:24] <labeeb32> o maannnnnn
[22:24] <labeeb32> ok
[22:24] <labeeb32> thanx
[22:24] <tgm4883> jq-: DNS
[22:24] <EriC^^> Airbander: no problem
[22:24] <labeeb32> ubuntu 12.04 LTS precise pangolin is a server?
[22:24] <Bashing-om> wwat: Humm .. now that ain't good. So, can you boot the liveDVD to "try ubuntu" mode ? as a place to start touble shooting .
[22:24] <jq-> tgm4883: Shouldn't that be auto configured like every other device on my network?
[22:24] <wwat> daftykins: not sure. i can't recall setting UEFI or legacy during the linux installations? i tend to use the graphical install
[22:25] <Bashing-om> trouble*
[22:25] <tgm4883> labeeb32: it can be. there is a desktop and a server
[22:25] <mircx1> hello i see very much guide for install smtp_server what i want is good link to install smtp_server someone can please give to me?
[22:25] <tgm4883> labeeb32: if you are just trying it out, why are you not trying out 14.04?
[22:25] <Airbander> thanks i found it
[22:25] <daftykins> wwat: i'll let Bashing-om carry on so as to not tread on toes with two cooks at once :)
[22:25] <k1l> labeeb32: if you downloaded the server image, yes. if its the desktop cd/dvd no
[22:25] <wwat> Bashing-om: i can, yes... i can boot any live linux distro that i've tried. as long as i create them using the Pen drive linux tool
[22:25] <tgm4883> jq-: well yes, but you said it wasn't working
[22:25] <labeeb32> bcos it doesnt show me my hard files
[22:25] <Airbander> eric thanks
[22:25] <labeeb32> it gives some sort of error
[22:25] <Airbander> can locate do the same job ?
[22:25] <EriC^^> Airbander: no problem :)
[22:25] <labeeb32> 10shows me files
[22:26] <wwat> daftykins: ok thanks for your help
[22:26] <labeeb32> but somene told me to try 12
[22:26] <EriC^^> Airbander: yes, but you have to use sudo updatedb
[22:26] <k1l> labeeb32: 10? 12?
[22:26] <labeeb32> ubuntu
[22:26] <tgm4883> labeeb32: 14.04 is the latest LTS version
[22:26] <EriC^^> Airbander: that updates the database of the files, locate is quicker to find stuff
[22:27] <Bashing-om> wwat: OK, let's see about booting the install .. reboot, and as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key, do you now get the grub boot menu ?
[22:27] <k1l> labeeb32: seems like you are mixing a lot of things here. can you make a line which describes you actual issue with all info?
[22:27] <Airbander> thanks alot
[22:27] <tgm4883> labeeb32: it's the recommended one to use
[22:27] <k1l> labeeb32: there are 2 ubuntu releases each year. so ubuntu 10 could be 10.04 or 10.10
[22:27] <Airbander> thanks
[22:27] <labeeb32> its 10.04
[22:27] <EriC^^> Airbander: no problem
[22:28] <k1l> labeeb32: seems like you got the server.iso and not the desktop one.
[22:28] <labeeb32> ofcoarse. now downloading desktop
[22:29] <mircx1> hello i see very much guide for install smtp_server what i want is good link to install smtp_server someone can please give to me?
[22:29] <wwat> Bashing-om: i do get a boot menu when booting the install/live disks. i guess this is the grub boot menu?
[22:30] <Myles_> Hey there, I have 8GB of ram on my ubuntu server, I look in /top as root and see processes at top using 4% and it states 5GB used at the top in KiB, is there hidden places it could be used and how do I find where my memory is going?
[22:30] <k1l> Myles_: see "free -m" and look at the 2. line to see what is used by buffers and cache
[22:31] <Myles_>  total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:          7932       4953       2978          1         39       4364
[22:31] <k1l> Myles_: ok, 3rd line then.
[22:31] <k1l> (should be obvious when i even said buffers and cache)
[22:31] <Bashing-om> wwat: That you can boot the liveUSB is a good thing, let's see what it takes to boot the install system. reboot and reset bios to the hard drive as 1st boot priority, and continue the boot process, soon as the bios screen clears deperess and hold the right shift key to get grub's boot menu in the install. IF you can get to this, we try and make the 'nomodeset" edit and see what results.
[22:31] <Myles_> -/+ buffers/cache:        549       7382
[22:31] <k1l> Myles_: linuxatemyram.com
[22:32] <mircx1> someone?
[22:32] <Myles_> Thanks haha, I've never seen this happen :p
[22:32] <labeeb32> my windows crashed. i tried to nstall new window but it gives some sort of error and wants me to format hard. so i want to use ubuntu to get all my data in another pc having windows. first i tried ubuntu 14.04 desktop but it didnt show my hard files and showed all my hard as unallocated space. then i tried randomly 10.04 LTS and it showed me all my data. then i tried to share data over network so i can transfer data but tats not happening
[22:33] <wwat> Bashing-om: ok noted. unfortunately i'm not able to do this while i talk with you. i've read about the nomodeset edit and will try this
[22:33] <daftykins> labeeb32: a moment ago you claimed you were booting server, your story keeps changing?
[22:33] <tgm4883> mircx1: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/email-services.html
[22:34] <labeeb32> yes recently i downloaded 12.04 server acidently
[22:34] <tgm4883> daftykins: I think his 12.04 is server
[22:34] <Bashing-om> wwat: Roger, we "expect" that a graphics driver is not loading. 'nomodeset' will use the suystem driver to boot, and once booted we can install a proper graphics driver.
[22:34] <labeeb32> but before that i used 10.04
[22:34] <labeeb32> desktop
[22:34] <geirha> labeeb32: My suggestions would be to 1. Install openssh-server in the Ubuntu live session, 2. Install WinSCP on the windows machine, and use it to connect to the machine running Ubuntu live
[22:35] <wwat> Bashing-om: i see. thank you very much for your help
[22:35] <labeeb32> this all for transferrring data?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> wwat: We are here to assist, get you up on 'buntu !
[22:36] <geirha> labeeb32: That's mainly because I know the ssh protocol well, samba/smb/cifs, tend to be ... cumbersome
[22:36] <wwat> Bashing-om: i appriciate that :)
[22:36] <labeeb32> well. and do i have to connect direct ethernet cable or via network?
[22:37] <geirha> labeeb32: Doesn't matter as long as you can reach it
[22:37] <geirha> via TCP/IP
[22:37] <labeeb32> sure. is it fast for transferring data?
[22:37] <labeeb32> i mean around 10 Mbs is fast enough for me
[22:38] <labeeb32> i have around 150 gb data to transfer
[22:39] <WTDs> irc.DarkUnix.Org
[22:39] <WTDs> connect irc.DarkUnix.Org
[22:39] <daftykins> WTDs: use the status window.
[22:40] <geirha> labeeb32: There's some overhead, but not that much
[22:40] <Baluse> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4c5_1382115025&comments=1
[22:40] <daftykins> Baluse: this is not the place for links
[22:43] <CoC_towlie> is there f2fs supported install for ubuntu 14.10 yet?
[22:43] <labeeb32> but what to do about winscp interface settings
[22:43] <labeeb32> i mean port no ad other stuff
[22:44] <labeeb32> what protocol should i choose? sftp, ftp or scp?
[22:44] <daftykins> labeeb32: port would always be 22, IP would be whatever the live system has.
[22:45] <k1l> rsync
[22:45] <jhutchins> labeeb32: Default port is 22, smart admins change that.
[22:45] <labeeb32> and ip is host name?
[22:46] <k1l> its your local networks ip.
[22:46] <tgm4883> jhutchins: any other reason to do that other than security through obscurity?
[22:46] <labeeb32> whats hostname?
[22:47] <k1l> tgm4883: it doesnt stop people who really want to get in your system. but it hides form the scriptkiddies just running the typical scripts scanning the whole net on port 22
[22:47] <jhutchins> tgm4883: Actually, brute force attacks are far less likely on a shifted port, they figure if you were smart enough to move it you probably did other things right.
[22:47] <geirha> labeeb32: If you don't have hostnames on your local network, just input the IP instead
[22:48] <labeeb32> ip of ubuntu laptop?
[22:48] <genii> fail2ban is still useful, even if you've shifted the ssh ports and other ones
[22:48] <geirha> yes
[22:48] <daftykins> labeeb32: open a terminal and run "ifconfig" if you don't know
[22:48] <tgm4883> jhutchins: k1l wouldn't something like fail2ban resolve that?
[22:49] <geirha> labeeb32, daftykins: Or if you want something easier to read than ifconfig:   ip -o -4 addr
[22:49] <daftykins> hah, not exactly easy to remember.
[22:49] <daftykins> and why confuse a new user?
[22:49] <labeeb32> yup
[22:49] <k1l> tgm4883: that is another brick in the wall against those idiots, yes
[22:49] <jq-> What is a good pci/pci-e ethernet card that works OOB for ubuntu server?
[22:50] <Finetundra> ubuntu minimal doesn't see my hard drive. what do id od
[22:50] <genii> jq-: Pretty much anything with an Intel chipset
[22:50] <genii> jq-: Broadcoms are to be avoided.
[22:51] <geirha> daftykins: How does it confuse?
[22:51] <daftykins> Finetundra: some kind of special setup?
[22:51] <jq-> genii: Ok, I'll have to look into an intel one. Thanks.
[22:51] <labeeb32> man... i just want my data safe
[22:51] <daftykins> geirha: for a user that's already asking about what to enter, it's best to keep it simple is all ;)
[22:51] <Finetundra> daftykins, it's just an ide hdd attached to to the approite port
[22:52] <daftykins> appropriate? :)
[22:52] <daftykins> is this some kind of old system?
[22:52] <geirha> daftykins: *shrug* the ip command is easier to find the ip address in
[22:52] <daftykins> geirha: alright, nevermind
[22:52] <geirha> two lines instead of twenty-ish
[22:53] <labeeb32> lol
[22:53] <Finetundra> daftykins, yes it is an older system.
[22:53] <apathyBOV> Can someone help me with my ubuntu which im running in virtual box?
[22:53] <daftykins> Finetundra: why are you using minimal?
[22:53] <CoC_towlie> !ask | apathyBOV
[22:53] <Bashing-om> jq-: I am running :  Accton Technology Corporation >> product: SMC2-1211TX , workie great .
[22:54] <Finetundra> daftykins, because it won't load a standard image of anything properly
[22:54] <apathyBOV> How do I get my ubuntu running in virtual box to go full screen? When I do full screen I just get a small rectangle with black all around
[22:54] <EriC^^> apathyBOV: did you install the guest additions iso?
[22:54] <daftykins> Finetundra: what's the spec of this thing?
[22:54] <tgm4883> apathyBOV: you need to install the virtualbox guest additions
[22:55] <dagerik> how can I inspect cron daemon logs? I tried service cron log
[22:55] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, you need to install vbox guest additions
[22:55] <apathyBOV> I did not install the guest additions
[22:55] <oeuvre> hi kids
[22:55] <oeuvre> time to sudo apt-get install windows95
[22:55] <EriC^^> dagerik: they should be in /var/log/syslog
[22:55] <violinappren> apathyBOV: install guest additions
[22:55] <apathyBOV> Can someone help me with that? This is my first time using virtual box and ubuntu
[22:55] <labeeb32> lol
[22:55] <oeuvre> replace ubuntu with a proper OS
[22:55] <EriC^^> oeuvre: lovely sentiment
[22:55] <oeuvre> thank you
[22:56] <tgm4883> oeuvre: 2edgy4me
[22:56] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, with the machine up click host+d. that should fix it
[22:57] <EriC^^> apathyBOV: click on the devices in the global menu, and select insert guest additions iso
[22:57] <apathyBOV> Thanks Finetundra
[22:57] <dagerik> How do I make the cron damon use msmtp. Help
[22:57] <Finetundra> daftkyins, 160gb ide hdd, 2.5 gb RAM, 2x2.0ghz processors, integrated video(really cruddy is the best i know)
[22:57] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, anytime
[22:57] <jq-> genii: I have one of these: http://www.microcenter.com/product/395030/1-Port_Ethernet_PCIe_Adapter but for some reason I'm not getting any connection. I'm getting assigned a localip from my router, but I can't ssh to it and not getting any internet access.
[22:58] <apathyBOV> EriC^^, I saw a tutorial that mentioned that, but my global menu isn't showing on my VM
[22:58] <daftykins> Finetundra: is it some kind of server?
[22:58] <Finetundra> daftykins, yes
[22:58] <violinappren> jq-: route -n
[22:58] <EriC^^> apathyBOV: it should be in the top left corner
[22:58] <violinappren> jq-: and check if the gateway and mask are correct
[22:59] <EriC^^> apathyBOV: if you go full screen ( host + f ) it shows up at the center at the bottom
[22:59] <Finetundra> daftykins, although specs are not default listed
[22:59] <daftykins> Finetundra: make + model?
[22:59] <genii> jq-: "Specs" page doesn't say what chipset, unfortunately.
[22:59] <CoC_towlie> apathyBOV, do you have interent in your guest?
[22:59] <jq-> genii: I found a driver on the manufacturers site which had me dl r8168-8.019.00.tar.bz2
[22:59] <Finetundra> daftykins, IBM eServer xSeries 225 type 8647
[22:59] <CoC_towlie> you can also just do this sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[23:00] <jq-> So I'd assume realtek r8168 o.O
[23:00] <veebull> howdy
[23:00] <Finetundra> daftykins, current specs are not stock
[23:00] <Finetundra> *not all stock
[23:00] <veebull> recently (today) installed 14.10 over 14.04, on hardware that I've been using since ~12.10 or so.
[23:01] <genii> jq-: So looks like Realtek chipset from the driver name.
[23:01] <apathyBOV> I did the host + d like Finetundra recommended, and the console opened up and did something
[23:01] <apathyBOV> It didn't fix my problem though
[23:01] <veebull> Keep getting kernel oops messages, and I can't reliably connect to my second HDD (laptop).
[23:01] <juniour> hi
[23:01] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, once the console has finished you'll need to restart
[23:01] <veebull> I keep getting this message:
[23:01] <jq-> genii: Yeah, I just don't know like any terminal commands to mess with ethernet stuff. I've never had a network card not just work on ubuntu-server lol
[23:01] <veebull> monte@machin-shin:~$ cd /srv/data
[23:01] <veebull> bash: cd: /srv/data: Transport endpoint is not connected
[23:01] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, the VM
[23:02] <apathyBOV> Ok
[23:02] <veebull> any ideas?
[23:02] <juniour> hi
[23:02] <jq-> genii: Seems like it's working now. Swapped it into a different pci-e slot. Very strange.
[23:02] <violinappren> veebull: is that a remote filesystem?
[23:02] <daftykins> Finetundra: can you drop to a shell and poke around a bit?
[23:03] <apathyBOV> Sweet
[23:03] <apathyBOV> Thanks guys
[23:03] <genii> jq-: Could be another adapter pre-empting it
[23:03] <Finetundra> apathyB0V, anytime
[23:03] <dagerik> how can I make anacron use msmtp to send email
[23:03] <Finetundra> daftykins, yep, just tell me what to look for
[23:04] <daftykins> Finetundra: well, presumably you see nothing at all from "sudo fdisk -l" or "sudo parted -l" ?
[23:04] <jonatasbaldin> hi guys
[23:04] <jq-> genii: Only other adapter I have is the onboard on the mobo, but I have that disabled in bios cause it doesn't work :P
[23:04] <jonatasbaldin> does someone uses nfs local mirror for ubuntu installation via pxe?
[23:04] <veebull> violinappren: no, second HDD mounted as ntfs because it needs to be accessible to both OSes (dual-boot laptop)
[23:04] <jonatasbaldin> astebin.com/UT22PeFy
[23:04] <labeeb32> ok. me again. now i have booted ubuntu 12.04 and it doesnt show me my data.
[23:04] <Finetundra> daftykins, the installer says it can't find the hdd
[23:05] <Finetundra> daftykins, so yes i guess so
[23:05] <jonatasbaldin> I'm using this options: http://pastebin.com/UT22PeFy and it's asking to insert the cd-rom in the instalation
[23:05] <k1l> labeeb32: what does "sudo fdisk -l" tell you?
[23:05] <violinappren> veebull: it's probably using a fuse-based driver, see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24966676/transport-endpoint-is-not-connected
[23:05] <k1l> labeeb32: put the output into a pastebin please
[23:05] <daftykins> Finetundra: i'm more after proof than belief :)
[23:05] <labeeb32> ok
[23:05] <Finetundra> daftykins, well i just turned the thing off so you'll have to give me a sec
[23:06] <veebull> violinappren: Well, nuts.  Kinda wishing I didn't "upgrade" my system if its an ongoing problem for a couple months now.
[23:07] <violinappren> veebull: search  existing bugs on launchpad, if not report it
[23:08] <Bashing-om> jq-: I have been around a bit, and I have seen with the Realtek 8168 requires updated bios to work .
[23:08] <daftykins> Finetundra: are you sure this disk is detected in the server's BIOS ok?
[23:09] <oeuvre> <3
[23:09] <veebull> violinappren: well... that doesn't seem to fix things.  Rebooting only fixes it for a very short (<15 minutes) time.
[23:10] <labeeb32> http://pastebin.com/1k2pMcVn
[23:10] <Finetundra> daftykins, i thought so but i'll look again
[23:10] <violinappren> veebull: any relevant messages in kern.log or sys.log ?
[23:10] <daftykins> labeeb32: it's a lower case L, not a 1 :)
[23:10] <k1l> labeeb32: its a small L at the end, not a 1
[23:10] <jq-> Bashing-om: Well my bios is 1 version behind cause the board I'm using was from an old hackintosh of mine that didn't like the newest bios :P
[23:11] <solsTiCe> hi. how can I manually download a package from ubuntu 15.04 ? I mean, how do I go to an http repo of ubuntu
[23:11] <labeeb32> oh sorry
[23:11] <labeeb32> wait
[23:11] <labeeb32> plz
[23:11] <k1l> solsTiCe: mixing repos might get you in more trouble :/
[23:11] <EriC^^> solsTiCe: 15.04?
[23:11] <solsTiCe> just one package. libXext. it's to fix a bug
[23:12] <k1l> solsTiCe: packages.ubuntu.com
[23:12] <EriC^^> ah we can do that now cause 14.10 is out
[23:12] <Guest93850> Hello! I'm a beginner, I want to know how cant I access the computer device in ubuntu console?
[23:12] <jonatasbaldin> guys? :c
[23:12] <daftykins> Guest93850: "the computer device" ?
[23:13] <labeeb32> http://pastebin.com/Hhz8WgFi
[23:13] <Guest93850> like My Computer in Windows
[23:13] <EriC^^> Guest93850: tricky
[23:13] <Finetundra> daftykins, it looks like the cord was out just enough to look in but be out!
[23:13] <daftykins> Finetundra: :)
[23:13] <EriC^^> Guest93850: what exactly do you want?
[23:13] <k1l> Guest93850: can you give more details? what do you want to do? what did you try? what error came up? what ubuntu are you on?
[23:13] <daftykins> Finetundra: i like the simple ones
[23:14] <daftykins> Guest93850: Linux doesn't work that way
[23:14] <Finetundra> daftykins, so do i
[23:14] <EriC^^> Guest93850: linux uses a file system hierarchy, starting at "/" and has other directories
[23:14] <labeeb32> http://pastebin.com/Hhz8WgFi
[23:14] <Guest93850> I want to access the folder var
[23:14] <EriC^^> Guest93850: you type cd /var
[23:14] <veebull> violinappren: Does this count?
[23:14] <dagerik> how do I configure my system to use msmtp?
[23:15] <veebull> Nov  4 14:56:35 machin-shin kernel: [  234.149761] note: mount.ntfs[788] exited with preempt_count 2
[23:15] <violinappren> veebull: the latest available version of ntfs-3g seems much recent that the packages in ubuntu http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/
[23:15] <k1l> labeeb32: did you try to open the filebrowser "nautilus" and see if there is something on the left side like windows or partition
[23:15] <Guest93850> Oh it works! Thx!
[23:15] <solsTiCe> k1l: ok. htnaks
[23:15] <veebull> veebull: one would wonder why that is, on a non-LTS release...?
[23:15] <labeeb32> there is just system and home folders of ubuntu
[23:16] <Finetundra> daftykins, i think that's the second time i've come here to find that something was loose
[23:16] <labeeb32> like video music documents etc
[23:16] <EriC^^> Guest93850: no problem!
[23:16] <veebull> violinappren: one would wonder why that is, on a non LTS release...?
[23:16] <Blaster> My Ubuntu server's booting is stuck on Starting configure network device.  How can I fix this?
[23:16] <daftykins> Finetundra: ah-ha, then next time when you think "hey i'll jump on IRC..." think "ah-ha, i must check all cables"
[23:17] <violinappren> veebull: i suspect licensing issues..
[23:17] <afrokarlsson> saatan sünnib, kui mees ronib samal päeval üles voolavast magmast titaankostüümis siis ronib üles ühest kahest või kolmest kosest
[23:17] <OerHeks> ubuntu irc estonia
[23:18] <EriC^^> !ee | afrokarlsson
[23:18] <Finetundra> daftykins, i think thats an apt analysis
[23:18] <k1l> labeeb32: what happens if you try to mount /dev/sda2 manually?
[23:19] <labeeb32> there is some problem with mount. when i enter sytem, it gives me this error. Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[23:20] <Bashing-om> jq-: Do not know what I can say, took me a bit to find that thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2158793&page=3 , but it did take a bios update to get the driver to work.
[23:20] <k1l> labeeb32: ah ok. what happend to that windows system before? is it hibernated?
[23:20] <labeeb32> i dont know. ubuntu 10.04 showed me allright.
[23:20] <labeeb32> but both 12.04 and 14.04 did not
[23:21] <k1l> labeeb32: that was not what i asked
[23:21] <labeeb32> i dont know if it was hibernate
[23:21] <labeeb32> d
[23:21] <k1l> labeeb32: i asked if that windows is just in hibernation? or if that is not shut down properly.
[23:21] <k1l> labeeb32: can you boot into that windows?`which windows is that?
[23:21] <labeeb32> i see now. i think its not properly shut down
[23:22] <labeeb32> i can boot but there are no graphics, just black screeen. windows 10 preview.
[23:22] <dysoco> C
[23:22] <EriC^^> labeeb32: boot into it and restart, as shutting down will hibernate it
[23:24] <labeeb32> how can i restart, when i cant see a thing. i have to eep pressing power button till it turns off.
[23:24] <squinty> labeeb32: iirc, the Windows 10 install disk has a repair option right on the main screen
[23:24] <labeeb32> it doesntrepair
[23:24] <daftykins> k1l: labeeb32 you could force mount, but it wouldn't be without risk.
[23:24] <daftykins> labeeb32: why are you using important data on a Windows preview OS?
[23:25] <labeeb32> i have only one laptop
[23:25] <labeeb32> lol
[23:25] <daftykins> this is what virtualisation is for
[23:25] <k1l> labeeb32: you can try to use ntfsfix on that partition. but there is a possible data loss risk. so if you can get windows to repair it that would be more safe
[23:26] <b43> is there a way to disable recent file list on mtpaint, or at least clear the list??
[23:26] <EriC^^> labeeb32: does it restart with ctrl+alt+del ?
[23:26] <labeeb32> i cant repair it
[23:26] <labeeb32> lemme try eric
[23:26] <daftykins> labeeb32: why not?
[23:27] <b43> anybody have any idea of a workaround??
[23:27] <labeeb32> yes it restarted with alt ctrl del
[23:27] <EriC^^> what's mtpaint?
[23:27] <labeeb32> is it now out of hibernation
[23:27] <b43> graphics editor
[23:27] <b43> on lubuntu
[23:27] <EriC^^> labeeb32: no idea, depends on whether it booted in or not
[23:28] <veebull> violinappren: looking a bit at the ntfs-3g page on launchpad... 13.10 and 14.04 (both of which worked relatively fine) had essentially the same release of ntfs-3g as 14.10.  Kind of thinking that it (ntfs-3g) might not be the culprit.
[23:28] <EriC^^> b43: you can try to remove it's file in your home directory
[23:29] <b43> which folder?
[23:29] <EriC^^> b43: try cd ~/.mtpaint or something and see what's there
[23:29] <b43> ok hold on let me try
[23:29] <violinappren> veebull: too many layers from libc all way down to the kernel version, i say uninstall the system supplied version and try the one from the website
[23:30] <labeeb32> tell me how can i repair windows?
[23:30] <k1l> labeeb32: i said above
[23:30] <EriC^^> labeeb32: what's wrong with it in the first place?
[23:30] <dagerik> anacron is successfully invoking msmtp because the /var/sbin/sendmail is symlinked to msmtp. But I need to add an command line option to msmtp. Help?
[23:31] <k1l> labeeb32: we cant fix your windows. that would be the task of the windows support.
[23:31] <veebull> violinappren: Honestly, I'd planned on this being a relatively quick and painless upgrade.  If I have to rebuild the transmission on a new car, I'd just return the dang thing and get my old car back.  If I have to gut the ntfs software the very first day and rebuild it with something else, I'm sorely tempted to just re-install 14.04.
[23:31] <xlogin> Test Message
[23:31] <b43> theres no mtpaint folder in the home directory
[23:31] <b43> no idea where to find it, mtpaint came with the lubuntu installation
[23:32] <labeeb32> i tried to install windows 8.1 pro but it gave me the error setup cant find hard for temporary installation files. imoved back and booted again into preview but there is no display. i really dont know how to recover display
[23:32] <EriC^^> b43: try sudo find / -iname "*mtpaint*"
[23:32] <k1l> labeeb32: we dont, too.
[23:32] <labeeb32> i cannot install any windows now
[23:32] <Watcher_> exit
[23:32] <labeeb32> unless i format hard disk
[23:32] <b43> ok hold on
[23:33] <EriC^^> labeeb32: get the win10 iso and try to repair it
[23:33] <b43> ok it says no such file or directory
[23:33] <EriC^^> b43?
[23:33] <EriC^^> if it doesn't find anything it shouldn't say anything
[23:34] <b43> weird, everytime i open mtpaint its on the drop down list
[23:34] <b43> even has a keyboard shortcut per file
[23:34] <b43> i dont even want it storin a list of recent files yet alone a keyboard shortcut per file
[23:34] <EriC^^> heh :D
[23:35] <EriC^^> b43: did you try the sudo find command>
[23:35] <b43> yes i did, came back with no such file or directory
[23:35] <b43> i have no idea where the default programs that came with the os r stored
[23:35] <b43> or what folders i mean
[23:36] <EriC^^> what command did you enter
[23:36] <EriC^^> and what did it return
[23:36] <squinty> b43: type in terminal    locate mtpaint
[23:36] <note> hi
[23:36] <b43> ok ill try locate
[23:36] <labeeb32> i have a question. why did ubuntu 10.04 showed my hard?
[23:36] <b43> i tried the find command that u gave earlier
[23:37] <k1l_> labeeb32: it has nothing to do with the ubuntu version.
[23:37] <b43> ok i see the folders where mtpaint is
[23:37] <b43> what filetype should i look for, for the recent files?
[23:37] <labeeb32> but that version showed mebut this doesnt
[23:37] <note> how can i view my ubuntu apache server over the internet
[23:37] <k1l_> labeeb32: when did you try 10.04?
[23:37] <EriC^^> b43: what's the list?
[23:37] <squinty> b43: try   which mtpaint    or   whereis mtpaint
[23:37] <daftykins> note: forward port 80 to your system's LAN IP on your router
[23:37] <labeeb32> about 5hours back
[23:37] <k1l_> note: enter your ip in a browser
[23:37] <daftykins> note: your system will need to be using a static IP address though
[23:38] <b43> locate mtpaint worked, i see the folders where their stored
[23:38] <k1l_> labeeb32: what happend in the meantime?
[23:38] <violinappren> note: using your external ip, make sure the port is open in  your machine firewall and forwarded on your router
[23:38] <Finetundra> is grub required to boot?
[23:38] <note> i tried but faild
[23:38] <b43> but i need to kno what kind of file type the recent files list r stored in so i can delete it
[23:38] <note> i use noip.com
[23:38] <labeeb32> someone in ubuntu tld me to use ubuntu 12.04 so that samba updates can b used
[23:39] <violinappren> Finetundra: a boot loader is required to boot, grub is just the most popular one, other alternatives include lilo (a much older one) and a the kernel built-in stub loader
[23:40] <k1l_> labeeb32: ok. what do you want to do? erase that windows? because we cant repair your windows so it works again. that would be the task of the windows support
[23:40] <EriC^^> b43: paste them in paste.ubuntu.com
[23:40] <violinappren> note: in a terminal: dig yourdomain.noip.com
[23:40] <b43> ok hold on
[23:40] <curt> hey guys, Ive been having trouble with nvidia drivers on my laptop, I discovered is uses optimus and ive started with a fresh install of 14.04 using this guide http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[23:40] <violinappren> note: does it resolve to your external IP correctly?
[23:41] <curt> but when I run the install command nothing happens, there are no drivers at all under the additional driver tab
[23:41] <labeeb32> ok. then ill come here after ive had my window fixed.
[23:41] <EriC^^> b43: you can try to search for the filename of the recent files, if you're lucky it might call them the same name
[23:41] <note> you mean ping?
[23:41] <curt> normally with a fresh install there is nouveaux as well as 331 and 331 update I believe
[23:41] <violinappren> note: no, i mean the command as i wrote it  "dig"
[23:41] <Finetundra> violinappren just wondering
[23:41] <violinappren> !who | note
[23:42] <k1l_> labeeb32: i hear you talk about you wanted to install windows8.1, then that you wanted to repair windows10,... i dont see the point where ubuntu comes in
[23:42] <k1l_> labeeb32: if you want to install ubuntu just wipe the disk and install it
[23:42] <note> yes
[23:42] <labeeb32> i cant install windows 8.1
[23:42] <labeeb32> andi cant wipe my hard
[23:42] <violinappren> Finetundra: I actually miss the  days of simple configuration of LILO, it used to be the default bootloader 10  years ago or so
[23:42] <b43> pasted, do i paste url here, or am i gettin kick banned?
[23:42] <note> i  ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
[23:42] <note> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
[23:42] <note> ;; QUESTION SECTION:www.mydomain.noip.me.		IN	A
[23:43] <violinappren> !paste | note
[23:43] <k1l_> labeeb32: so you want to erase your harddrive?
[23:43] <Finetundra> labeeb32, just back the blasted thing up and then wipe it
[23:43] <EriC^^> b43: you can try sudo find / -type d -iname "*mtpaint*" -exec grep -r <filename> '{}' \;
[23:43] <squinty> b43: you can show your paste url here
[23:43] <EriC^^> that should search for the filename in the directories that have mtpaint
[23:43] <EriC^^> b43: paste here
[23:43] <b43> ok heres the url
[23:43] <b43> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8826598/
[23:44] <Finetundra> violinappren, truth is that i may well have to install lilo as grub like to display at an odd resolution
[23:44] <Finetundra> for my system
[23:44] <note> what next
[23:44] <b43> is it mtpaint.list??
[23:44] <squinty> cat mtpaint.list  will tell you
[23:44] <note> what is dig surpose to print?
[23:45] <EriC^^> b43: no that pertains to the package stuff
[23:45] <violinappren> Finetundra: check /etc/default/grub
[23:45] <b43> ok, so where do i find the recent files list?
[23:45] <EriC^^> try /usr/share/menu/mtpaint
[23:45] <EriC^^> b43: try cat /usr/share/menu/mtpaint
[23:45] <b43> ok let me check, hold on
[23:45] <tafa2> could not find module name cc_ubuntu_init_switch anyone seen this?
[23:45] <dagerik> im getting Warning: The following processes are using suspicious files: Pathname: /usr/bin/crontab  How do I whitelist this in rkhunter.conf?
[23:46] <Finetundra> violinappren, yes, i know. i just think lilo would probably be easier
[23:47] <note> violinappren: what is dig surpose to print
[23:47] <violinappren> note: your external ip, if it's being pushed correctly to noip
[23:48] <note> violinappren: no
[23:48] <b43> a weird text file opened n theres nothing on it about recent files list
[23:48] <violinappren> note:  if "ANSWER: 0" then it's not pushed correctly
[23:48] <violinappren> note: check the demon that's supposed to be pushing your ip
[23:49] <note> violinappren:  like duc?
[23:49] <b43> no recent files list on that mtpaint
[23:50] <EriC^^> b43: get a filename in the recent list
[23:50] <EriC^^> and go to your home dir and type grep -r <filename>
[23:50] <b43> so i have to delete the actual file?? omg
[23:51] <EriC^^> b43: no, -r is for recursive here
[23:51] <b43> oh ok, just makin sure
[23:51] <violinappren> note: yes
[23:52] <b43> it says no such file or directory, thats from the home directory
[23:53] <EriC^^> b43: it shouldn't return anything
[23:53] <EriC^^> what exactly are you typing?
[23:53] <EriC^^> can you paste the 2 lines here?
[23:53] <note> violinappren: ok now when i enter my noip domain , it takes me to my router but i want my webserver.
[23:54] <note> violinappren: ubuntu server
[23:54] <b43> 2 lines from the mtpaint txt file??
[23:54] <k1l_> note: do you have a proper forward from the router to that server?
[23:54] <b43> or 2 lines from where?
[23:54] <EriC^^> b43: from the terminal
[23:54] <EriC^^> b43: did you check the preferences of mtpaint btw?
[23:54] <k1l_> note: most routers call that a "dmz"
[23:54] <b43> its only 1 line
[23:55] <b43> yea i checked the preferences from within mtpaint, has nothing with recent files to tweak
[23:55] <note> violinappren: not port forwarding?
[23:55] <b43> um wait, i think i see the issue, the file name has a space in it, n from what i kno terminal dont do spaces very well
[23:56] <violinappren> Finetundra: I just booted with LILO now, so retro!
[23:56] <k1l_> b43: make a \ infront of that space
[23:56] <genii> Geez, LILO
[23:56] <EriC^^> b43: yeah, you can use quotes if you want
[23:56] <EriC^^> grep -r "file name"
[23:56] <b43> ok
[23:56] <k1l_> like "this\ is\ a\ space"
[23:56] <b43> i think the quotes would be easier
[23:57] <b43> but ill try both
[23:57] <minas114> for some reason my task manager (monitor) does not display the title bar
[23:57] <k1l_> b43: not both at same time
[23:57] <b43> ok it accepted the command both times, with quotes n with back slash, but it didnt show what it actually did
[23:58] <EriC^^> b43: so it returned nothing?
[23:58] <EriC^^> try the find command
[23:58] <b43> it returned nothing, but it didnt return any error
[23:58] <EriC^^> sudo find / -type d -iname "*mtpaint*" -exec grep -r <filename> '{}' \;
[23:58] <b43> ok
[23:58] <EriC^^> also use quotes for filename
[23:58] <note> violinappren: my server ip is <IP_ADDRESS>  how do i forward it
[23:59] <violinappren> note: open the router configuration web interface, depending on the model, you should find an option there to forward connections to a given port to a specific machine and port