[05:13] <chesedo> good morning all early ones
[05:22] <paddatrapper> Morning chesedo
[06:25] <inetpro> goeie more
[06:32] <Kilos> morning inetpro chesedo superfly paddatrapper and all others
[06:33] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos
[06:33] <Kilos> hi dlPhreak
[06:33] <dlPhreak> Morning
[06:33] <chesedo> morning inetpro Kilos paddatrapper
[06:34] <dlPhreak> Hello Kilos, chesedo, etc. Are you all well?
[06:34] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[06:34] <dlPhreak> Brilliant thanks :)
[06:36] <chesedo> yes, all well ty dlPhreak, and self?
[06:36] <chesedo> oh and hi too
[06:38] <dlPhreak> I'm doing quite well thank you, chesedo
[06:41] <dlPhreak> TGIF!
[06:45] <Kilos> Maaz tell magespawn You are late
[06:45] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[07:00] <theblazehen> hey guys
[07:00] <dlPhreak> Mornign theblazehen
[07:02] <dlPhreak> %s/Mornign/Morning/gc
[07:03] <nsnzero> morning all
[07:05] <Kilos> hi theblazehen nsnzero
[07:07] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[07:08] <nsnzero> morning Kilos , theblazehen
[07:08] <theblazehen> hi nsnzero
[07:08] <nsnzero> Kilos: did you manage to figure out the flags you needed ?
[07:10] <Kilos> ill get to that just now please nsnzero
[07:10] <Kilos> gotta go let sheep out
[07:11] <Kilos> read lots but still need to work it all out
[07:11] <Kilos> wbb
[07:11] <nsnzero> i got to go to town now - got circulars to pick up - be back abit latter on
[07:11] <nsnzero> cheers
[08:30] <magespawn> good morning
[08:30] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell magespawn You are late" 1 hour, 44 minutes and 30 seconds ago
[08:30] <Kilos> hehe
[08:30] <magespawn> Late for?
[08:30] <Kilos> early morning greetings
[08:31] <magespawn> ahh right
[08:31] <magespawn> was working till 21:00 last night, so took it a bit slower this morning
[08:31] <Kilos> ai!
[08:42] <magespawn> getting old
[08:42] <Kilos> haha
[08:46] <_shaun_> hi guys i get the error message ive run out of space when i try pip install, is my /usr/local taking up space and what can i free up?
[08:49] <theblazehen> _shaun_: Try `df -h` to see
[08:51] <_shaun_> my /usr/lib only has 158mb and /usr is 244.7 pip install gives me these error messages and numpy seems to have broken, what is safe to delete? can i delete the entire /usr/lib or what should i not delete
[08:51] <Kilos> hi _shaun_ welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:51] <_shaun_> hi kilos howzit
[08:51] <Kilos> ok ty and you
[08:52] <_shaun_> im fine thanks
[08:56] <Kilos> hi  Cryterion
[08:56] <Cryterion> Morning
[09:28] <superfly> _shaun_: why are you using pip on a system level
[09:29] <superfly> _shaun_: that's a bad idea. if you need custom depedencies, use virtualenv
[10:48] <nsnzero> trying out the wayland display server - its faster than x
[10:51] <Kilos> haha theres a guy called grumble on another channel
[10:51] <Kilos> first of all thought it was gremble
[11:35] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Yeah. But it's not X
[11:35] <theblazehen> So no (?) multi monitor
[11:35] <theblazehen> No xrandr
[11:35] <theblazehen> No awesomewm
[11:35] <theblazehen> No xbindkeys
[11:35] <theblazehen> no xeyes
[11:35] <theblazehen> no xmodmap
[11:36] <theblazehen> no xkill
[11:36] <theblazehen> no X forwarding
[11:44] <Kilos> hi jeffe
[11:45] <nsnzero> also no remote client , no print server which x has built-in , but no-lag
[11:45] <jeffe> Hi Kilos
[11:47] <nsnzero> hi jeffe
[11:49] <theblazehen> nsnzero: They removed the print server
[11:50] <nsnzero> theblazehen: didn't know that - x was a complete operating system at 1 stage
[11:54] <MaNI> they'll slowly add all this stuff back to wayland and then one day decide wayland is too slow and start again with a new 'slim' version
[11:54] <MaNI> and so the eternal cycle continues
[12:03] <nsnzero> that what happens when there are too many coders - everyone wants/ has their own ideas and  implements same into the system
[12:03] <ra1v3n> Hello all
[12:03] <Kilos> hi ra1v3n
[12:04] <nsnzero> afternoon ra1v3n
[12:04] <ra1v3n> Hello Kilos and nsnzero
[12:05] <nsnzero> chat later - closing  up early
[12:06] <Kilos> ok
[17:26] <magespawn> Looks like peer and tomeout have been the bussiest here today
[17:31] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:38] <SEptic> evening all
[17:38] <Kilos> hi SEptic
[17:39] <Kilos> inetpro ping
[17:45] <theblazehen> hi Kilos SEptic
[17:46] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[17:46] <SEptic> hey
[17:47] <theblazehen> SEptic: You look at temple OS any more?
[17:48] <SEptic> will lewk tonight, was just fiddling with ubuntu server and samba
[17:48] <theblazehen> 0x6a VGA mode isn't an actual "VGA" mode, but a de facto standard. Used by windows 3.11 to get 800x600 etc
[17:48] <theblazehen> Nice
[17:48] <theblazehen> Gonna try physical hardware
[17:48] <SEptic> aah i see
[17:49] <theblazehen> So, de facto standard, but QEMU only used actual standards
[17:51] <SEptic> looking up that qemu... pretty fancy stuff
[17:52] <theblazehen> Yeah
[17:52] <theblazehen> http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/vgabios/vgatables.h?revision=1.10&root=vgabios&view=markup vga bios they use
[17:52] <theblazehen> It has a mode for 6a though
[17:52] <theblazehen> But it just freezes
[17:55] <SEptic> whats your colour depth?
[17:56] <captine> eve all
[17:56] <SEptic> evening captine
[17:57] <Kilos> hi captine
[17:58] <d`_`b> Hi captine, SEptic Kilos theblazehen
[17:58] <Kilos> hi d`_`b
[17:58] <SEptic> hey d'_'b
[17:59] <SEptic> hey d`_`b
[17:59] <SEptic> my bad
[17:59] <d`_`b> theblazehen: you tried temple OS before?
[18:00] <theblazehen> SEptic: 16 colors. hey d`_`b
[18:00] <theblazehen> Yeah, even got it running at 1024x512 16 color before
[18:00] <d`_`b> Would that intterupt 10 trick be actual VGA, I think it was called xmode or something.
[18:00] <theblazehen> I'm a fan
[18:01] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Well, you call int 10h
[18:01] <theblazehen> Then you either set AH=00h
[18:01] <theblazehen> To set a VGA mode
[18:02] <SEptic> your host OS?
[18:02] <d`_`b> any reason why you a fan? AS
[18:02] <theblazehen> or you set AH=13h, and set AX= the VESA call you want (In this case 0x4F02) and then BX to the mode you want
[18:02] <d`_`b> oops*
[18:03] <theblazehen> SEptic: Ah. 32 bit I believe. Whatever the linux default is. But it's using VNC with virt-manager anyway, no interaction with guest there
[18:03] <d`_`b> As I understand the guy is a bit radical. But a lot of people seem to admire the technical abaility behind TempleOS
[18:04] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Gets rid of legacy crap, has great interface (In terms of global auto complete, graphics and flowcharts in code)
[18:04] <theblazehen> And the JIT compiler is great
[18:04] <theblazehen> Even the kernel (apart from the 16 and 32 and final 64 bit assembly bits) is run in the JIT compiler
[18:04] <d`_`b> What can I actually run in it today? There Bash, Vim, Tmux?
[18:05] <theblazehen> d`_`b: Well, there isn't much third party stuff
[18:06] <theblazehen> But he has built in text editor
[18:06] <theblazehen> Just do Dir();
[18:06] <d`_`b> I wanted to be radical and run pc-bsd. But could not get c9 running on it. So I'm happy with my gnu/linux.
[18:06] <theblazehen> click on a file and type
[18:06] <theblazehen> c9?
[18:06] <d`_`b> cloud9
[18:06] <theblazehen> http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Web/AppStore.html#l1
[18:06] <theblazehen> ah
[18:06] <d`_`b> http://c9.io
[18:06] <theblazehen> I know of it
[18:06] <theblazehen> Also, HolyC is kinda neat
[18:07] <smile> o.O
[18:07] <d`_`b> online version a bit slow with the 200 ms lag. But offline version runs like a beast.
[18:07] <theblazehen> hey smile
[18:07] <SEptic> wiki on templeos, woah man, hectic
[18:07] <theblazehen> SEptic: heh
[18:07] <theblazehen> just hit F1
[18:08] <theblazehen> Also cool: You can click on function name in autocomplete (Or anywhere else, really) to go to its definition
[18:09] <SEptic> 100,000 line of code limit for applications
[18:09] <theblazehen> SEptic: Yeah.


[00:15] <rfm> blahdeblah, if I had to use packages incompatible with the system version, I would install them in a venv
[00:21] <blahdeblah> rfm: They aren't incompatible as far as I know.  They're just running afoul of the new python approach to insist that everything is in a venv whether it needs it or not.
[00:21] <blahdeblah> They all worked fine on 22.04.  I'm just updating my docker image for 24.04 and running into the dreaded "error: externally-managed-environment" https://paste.debian.net/1316402/
[06:48] <andreios_> I have successful upgraded from 22.04 to 24.04 and changed no configs, but I can't connect to wireguard now, it says handshake not completed on every attempted on the server. This is a minimal install on cloud
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> andreios_: LTS upgrades are not enabled yet, not reccomended either
[08:32] <andreios_> lotuspsychje: So do you thing this issue will be fixed when upgrades are enabled? Where should even lie the cause of this? And should there be some who reports this as a bug?
[08:43] <tomreyn> andreios_: see if you can reproduce it on a fresh 24.04 install. if you can, file a bug (after checking it has not been filed, yet)
[19:37] <trippeh> okay, figured out the ipv6 netboot woes - it really doesnt like having stateless addressing enabled on the network (yes, I know, bootloader bits has to be bootstrapped with DHCPv6, thats fine)
[20:05] <catalase> hello
[20:06] <catalase> ubuntu 22.04.4 lts, i try to login via the console or via ssh, and i am immediately logged out
[20:06] <catalase> any ideas?
[20:08] <ravage> did you enable password login during setup? did you specify a ssh key? do you use the ubuntu user?
[20:10] <catalase> password login, no ssh key. yes use ubuntu user
[20:11] <ravage> that should work. did not try the password login for a while
[20:13] <catalase> it's unclear why it won't work
[20:13] <catalase> are there any logs i can check?
[20:13] <ravage> the most common cause would be a wrong password of course
[20:13] <catalase> i have access to the disk
[20:14] <ravage> if this is a fresh installation i would just try it again before you start debugging
[20:14] <catalase> password is correct, it gives me the login prompt, and it even will show the successful login text
[20:14] <ravage> i am downloading the ISO. so i can verify it in a moment
[20:15] <ravage> but then you should be logged in?
[20:15] <catalase> i should be logged in, but it immediately logs me out
[20:15] <catalase> goes right back to the login prompt
[20:16] <catalase> happening on all three of my ubuntu machines
[20:16] <catalase> probably update broke it
[20:16] <catalase> but i don't know where or how to find out
[20:16] <ravage> you could chroot in the disk and check the system logs
[20:22] <catalase> what log should i check
[20:22] <catalase> auth.log is not even logging my latest attempts apparently
[20:23] <ravage> you need a proper chroot and use journalctl
[20:23] <catalase> how can i get that without being able to login
[20:25] <catalase> even root user log me out right away
[20:34] <ravage> https://p.haxxors.com/chroot.txt
[20:34] <ravage> you can get the ISO from https://grml.org/download/
[20:36] <oerheks> if the disk is mounted RO, i could imagine the logout
[20:36] <ravage> if this are all VMs on the same host then that may be totally possible
[20:37] <ravage> but then you have a much bigger issue maybe 🙂
[20:37] <catalase> three separate hardware, all running the same distro
[20:37] <catalase> immediately logged out after succesful login
[20:37] <catalase> both by ssh and console


[12:14] <xnox> cyphermox, cjwatson: apt-setup/security_host, mirror/http/hostname, time/zone (or tzsetup/geoip_server), clock-setup/ntp-server (on supported arches) are all the things needed for non-stalling installations, when *.ubuntu.com is resolvable, but not routable.
[12:14] <xnox> thanks a lot for your help! customer is happy =)
[12:15] <cyphermox> ack, ta
[12:15] <xnox> cyphermox, "the installation took place at warp speed" =)
[12:17] <cyphermox> yeah I can imagine
[12:17] <cyphermox> it helps a lot when things are preseeded anyway


[03:40] <kieppie> hi guys
[03:41] <kieppie> does anyone know if 2FA is available via UbuntuOne? I'd like to make use of one of my more obscure Ubuntu One accounts to store some sensitive (keepass) data - otherwise I'll need to set up another gmail account
[05:13] <spm> kieppie: sure is. login to your account on login.ubuntu.com and follow the bouncy ball to add it.
[08:16] <mandel_> rye, ping
[08:18] <JamesTait> Happy Monday, people! :-D
[08:41] <mandel_> rye, ping
[08:43] <rye> mandel_: pong
[08:44] <rye> ah
[08:44] <rye> i guess i know
[08:44] <mandel_> rye, I'm a major stupid ass and forgot the settings for the hip server yet again.. (well I saved them in ubuntuone in a note and lost them) can you pm them to me again?
[08:44] <mandel_> rye, is that what you though?
[08:45] <mandel_> rye, also, about ubuntuone, if I upload a file with a leading . does it show in the webui?
[08:46] <rye> mandel_: first - yes, i have the credentials, second - yes, they will show up
[08:47] <rye> also it was not a good idea to start updating to quantal - i thought 1 hour will be enough but I see I have a ton of packages
[08:47] <mandel_> rye, dammed, then my .vimrc did not get synced..
[08:47] <rye> mandel_: how did you sync vimrc?
[08:47] <mandel_> just moved to ubuntuone folder
[08:48] <mandel_> rye, can you pm the creeds to me please :)
[08:48] <rye> mandel_: hm, does u1sdtool --info show it?
[08:48] <rye> mandel_: i will just post them to #ubuntuone
[08:48] <rye> :)
[08:48]  * rye has a 23" VT100 terminal
[08:48] <rye> now
[08:48] <mandel_> rye, no, not lever here, but I seem not to be able connect to canonical irc
[09:31] <mandel_> rye, I get stuck at logging in, can you check the logs to know what is going on?
[09:46] <rye> mandel_: are you using SSL connection?
[09:46] <mandel_> rye, no, is that a need?
[09:47] <rye> mandel_: yes, bip listens on a SSL socket
[09:47] <mandel_> rye, ok, so I'm stupid :)
[09:47] <rye> with expired certificate, nice. Will need to update once I get back my X server
[09:49] <mandel_> rye, yes, that I noticed :)
[09:50] <mandel_> rye, awesome is working now, I'll be with my real nick then :)
[10:58] <gatox> GOOD MORNING! :D
[12:19] <alecu> hola gatox! welcome back!
[12:19] <alecu> gatox: how was your trip???
[12:19] <gatox> alecu, hi!!!!!! :D
[12:19] <gatox> alecu, AMAZING!!! :'D
[12:19] <gatox> alecu, and the ninja-talk in the pycon was amazing!!!
[12:20] <alecu> gatox: great!
[12:20] <gatox> the people was really excited.... a lot of people was talking about ninja after that, and i hear some of them saying that it was the best talk :D
[12:20] <alecu> gatox: hehehe
[12:20] <alecu> gatox: :-)
[12:20] <gatox> because it was really funny jeje
[12:21] <gatox> alecu, i'm waiting for ralsina to discuss what tasks are there for me related to the share links tabs or whatever..... do you know something about that or i should wait for him?
[12:37] <alecu> gatox: I'm not aware of tasks regarding the share link tabs, but there is this: bug #1042343
[12:38] <alecu> gatox: we should wait for ralsina to get here to discuss what takes priority, but perhaps you can start taking a look at that.
[12:38] <gatox> alecu, is this regarding to the sync menu implementation that is not from us?
[12:40] <alecu> gatox: right
[12:41] <gatox> alecu, ok.... i'll wait for ralsina to see if i should assign that to me.... and talk about the share tabs
[12:42] <alecu> gatox: afaik there was no progress on our front regarding that.
[12:42] <gatox> alecu, do you know where is the doc about the api of that?? to be able to use it?
[12:42] <alecu> gatox: but the indicator we were waiting on is ready
[12:42] <alecu> gatox: and it was already uploaded to Q
[12:43] <alecu> gatox: let me find them docs
[12:43] <gatox> any doc?? so i can start taking a look at that
[12:47] <alecu> gatox: I can't find any docs; what I've found instead is the example code on how to use it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-sync/trunk/view/head:/examples/sync-app-example.c
[12:48] <gatox> lets see.....
[12:48] <alecu> gatox: it's c. We should be using the gobject-introspection interface though.
[12:49] <gatox> i though there were doing a python api also
[12:49] <gatox> s/there/they
[12:50] <alecu> gatox: yes, the gobject-interface is useable from python via GI
[12:50] <alecu> gatox: I found it much easier to understand by first running that example
[12:51] <gatox> alecu, ok.... i'll check that
[12:52] <alecu> gatox: in an up to date Q vm: sudo apt-get build-dep indicator-sync; bzr branch lp:indicator-sync ; cd indicator-sync; ./autogen.sh; make ;  cd example; make sync-app-example
[12:53] <alecu> gatox: and on the examples dir there's a nice README on how to run it.
[12:53] <gatox> ok, thx!
[13:05] <alecu> gatox: it seems you'll also need libindicator-tools3 package to run the examples.
[13:05] <gatox> alecu, ack.... i'm downloading the image of Q
[13:06] <ralsina> good morning!
[13:06] <gatox> ralsina, hi!
[13:09] <alecu> gatox: latest alpha, right?
[13:09] <gatox> alecu, beta1
[13:10] <alecu> gatox: great then.
[13:10] <ralsina> gatox: http://www.zdnet.com/the-five-best-things-coming-in-ubuntu-12-10-linux-7000003927/ #3 specially ;-)
[13:11] <alecu> gatox: make sure to dist-upgrade it as much as you can, because the unity on Q is very buggy when running inside virtualbox.
[13:11] <gatox> ralsina, jejeje :'D we have to improve it and it will be awesome.... i want to discuss some ideas for the problem you mentioned
[13:11] <gatox> alecu, ack, thx
[13:11] <ralsina> gatox: as you can see, people like it but they don't understand it :)
[13:12] <gatox> ralsina, yes, if we improve the ux.... it would be a lot better!
[13:22]  * dobey wonders if the installer is fixed yet
[13:28]  * alecu needs to be afk for 10 mins
[13:33] <ralsina> gatox: mumble?
[13:33] <gatox> lets
[13:36] <mandel> alecu, hello!
[13:39] <gatox> ralsina, i lost you in mumble
[13:43] <ralsina> gatox: my internet died
[13:43] <ralsina> gatox: I am back there I think
[13:43] <gatox> ralsina, i can't see you....... i'll reconnect
[13:51] <gatox> ralsina, let me know when you are back
[13:55] <ralsina> gatox: I am back now
[13:55] <ralsina> gatox: looks like arnet hates me today
[13:55] <gatox> ralsina, hehe..... ok..... i'm in mumble
[13:56] <ralsina> gatox: if you are talking, I am not hearing it
[13:56] <gatox> ralsina, i can't see you online on mumble
[13:58] <gatox> ralsina, really...... are you on mumble? :S
[14:16] <ralsina> gatox: I keeep getting disconnected
[14:16] <ralsina> gatox: let's keep fingers crossed
[14:16] <gatox> on mumble
[14:16] <ralsina> gatox: we can talk about that a bit later in the meantime, get started with the menu thing
[14:17] <gatox> ralsina, ack..... i'm not sure if you listen the last thing i explain about the new design..... but.... i can send you an email later if you want with all the things i have written down here
[14:18] <ralsina> gatox: what I think would be a good interaction is to do like chromium does. The first result of completion is "search for 'string'"
[14:18] <ralsina> gatox: so, if the user selects that one, we search and show results. If theuser selects a "real" completion, then we use it
[14:19] <gatox> ralsina, ahhhh good one!
[14:19] <gatox> i like that and has more sense
[14:19] <gatox> that just repeat the info
[14:20] <ralsina> gatox: and before the completion is ready, we just show the search, which is reasonable behaviour
[14:21] <gatox> yep yep
[14:21] <ralsina> gatox: but let's aim to get that in in a microrelease after Q, the sync menu OTOH has deadlines
[14:27] <gatox> ralsina, so..... should i assign that bug to me?
[14:27] <ralsina> gatox: yes
[14:27] <gatox> ack
[14:45] <dobey> mandel, ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-data/no-installer/+merge/123565 please :)
[14:45] <mandel> dobey, on sprint, but sure no problem :)
[14:46] <dobey> mandel: oh, right. nevermind then. go sprint
[14:46]  * mandel starts running
[14:46] <dobey> ralsina: (and someone else who isn't sprinting) https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-control-panel/no-more-installer/+merge/123566 also
[14:47] <gatox> dobey, 52748 lines (+52308/-0) 88 files modified ??
[14:47] <dobey> gatox: translations
[14:47] <gatox> ahhhhhhh
[14:47] <dobey> i imported them :-/
[14:47]  * gatox reviewing....
[14:49] <mmcc> hi folks, welcome back gatox, glad to hear your talk went well!
[14:49] <gatox> mmcc, hi and thanks!! :D:D
[14:50] <j0nr> rye: Did that issue get sorted out re. not seeing my newly purchased music? I still can't see it.
[14:52] <gatox> dobey, +1
[14:54] <dobey> thanks gatox
[14:55] <dobey> gatox: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-data/no-installer/+merge/123565 is the other half of that change (removing that bit from ubuntuone-client-data); also large, but much less so. it's just removing all the translations from there :)
[14:57] <ralsina> gatox: put my idea in a comment in lisette's document
[14:57] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[14:57] <gatox> dobey, another +1
[14:57] <ralsina> everyone, my internet is really flakey today and I can't leave the house (waiting for a delivery)
[14:57] <ralsina> still I have logs, so talk to me as i I were here ;-)
[14:58] <ralsina> I am just more async than usual
[14:58] <rye> j0nr: looking, the fixes for admin util were rolled out and I've rescanned the files yesterday, checking the status now
[14:58] <dobey> ralsina: so i guess i shouldn't expect you to do reviews?
[14:59] <rye> j0nr: hm, could you please refresh the web page with the player?
[14:59] <ralsina> dobey: I can try
[14:59] <dobey> ralsina: did you see the two i just requested? or do i need to re-link?
[15:00] <ralsina> dobey: saw them, will do them
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:00] <briancurtin> me
[15:00] <ralsina> me
[15:00] <dobey> great, thanks
[15:00] <dobey> me
[15:01] <gatox> alecu, thisfred mandel mmcc
[15:01] <ralsina> mandel is on sprint, he's exempt
[15:01] <thisfred> me
[15:01] <alecu> me
[15:01] <gatox> ah oka
[15:01] <ralsina> gatox: go
[15:01] <mmcc> me
[15:02] <gatox> DONE:
[15:02] <gatox> Awesome vacations, catching up, mumble, reviews, install Q, start testing the menu code
[15:02] <gatox> TODO:
[15:02] <gatox> Keep playing with the sync menu indicator and integrate that with u1
[15:02] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:02] <gatox> No
[15:02] <gatox> briancurtin, go
[15:02] <briancurtin> DONE: devtools is probably done, HTTPS "works". started testing it with SSO and working through some of the failures
[15:02] <briancurtin> TODO: keep going and make SSO work with the devtools changes
[15:02] <briancurtin> NEXT: ralsina
[15:02] <ralsina> DONE: calls, some UI discussions, 1-1s, reviews TODO: reviews, perhaps fix a bug, maybe tech leads?, other calls BLOCKED: no, NEXT: dobey
[15:02] <dobey> DONE: icon magic
[15:02] <dobey> TODO: releases
[15:02] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:02] <dobey> thisfred: go
[15:02] <thisfred> DONE: u1db playlists backends TODO: more of that BLOCKED: no NEXT: alecu
[15:03] <alecu> DONE: learning how to make decent unit tests on vala, lens api calls
[15:03] <alecu> TODO: more lens api calls
[15:03] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <alecu> NEXT: mmcc
[15:03] <mmcc> DONE: fighting with launchd and root daemon ipc.
[15:03] <mmcc> TODO: root daemon ipc
[15:06] <ralsina> ok EOM it is
[15:07] <alecu> ralsina: tech leads call!
[15:07] <ralsina> alecu: going
[15:10] <dobey> are there any special things we need to ensure are in any releases today?
[15:11] <dobey> beta2 freeze is this week, so want to make sure everything is in
[15:12]  * gatox lunch
[15:13] <j0nr> rye: That's got them! Thanks!
[15:13] <ralsina> dobey: nothing comes to mind
[15:13] <ralsina> dobey: could be there's nothing, could be the mind ;-)
[15:13] <j0nr> rye: hope my problem helped towards some sort of bug fix
[15:14] <dobey> heh
[15:21] <rye> j0nr: indeed, fixed a long standing bug in the admin interface, thought we are going to roll out a proper infrastructure change soon that would fix the underlying issue properly
[15:30] <dobey> ok. off to lunch, bbiab
[16:09] <gatox> back
[16:31] <dobey> ok
[16:49] <dobey> ralsina: did you get a chance to review my branches, or should i bug someone else to review them? or just go ahead with 1 review on them?
[16:51] <dobey> wtf. so my internal sound card isn't showing up in pulseaudio again. and i just opened evolution and hit send/receive, and the intel bios boot sound played through that card
[16:51] <ralsina> dobey: am on it
[16:52] <ralsina> dobey: +1 on both
[16:58] <dobey> thanks
[17:05] <dobey> oh, b2 freeze is next week actually; doh
[17:05] <dobey> anyways
[17:35] <dobey> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/update-4-0/+merge/123605 please
[17:35] <ralsina> dobey: got it
[17:36] <ralsina> dobey: for next week's beta we do want to get the sync menu integration gatox is doing, so maybe there's no point in doing some of these today
[17:36] <gatox> ralsina, i'm still trying to get the example to work :S
[17:37] <gatox> Q in the vm works like crap
[17:37] <ralsina> gatox: I consider that working ;-)
[17:37] <ralsina> gatox: as in "you are working on it "not as "it's working" ;-)
[17:37] <dobey> ralsina: well, the point of releasing everything today is to have a schedule of releases :)
[17:38] <gatox> ralsina, jeje okok
[17:38] <ralsina> dobey: sure, just checking.
[17:38] <ralsina> dobey: in any case +1
[17:39] <dobey> thanks
[17:39] <gatox> alecu, ping
[18:13] <gatox> alecu, please let me know when you are around
[18:25] <ralsina> I'll go have a late lunch, then school run, will be back in about 90'
[18:47] <gatox> ok..... the example works now.....
[19:55]  * briancurtin needs fresh air, be back after a quick break
[20:05] <gatox> eod here!!! see you tomorrow people!!
[20:05]  * gatox will keep fighting the good fight with gir
[20:24] <dobey> hmm
[20:26] <dobey> cnyone left around to do reviews?
[20:27] <dobey> easy updating the stable branch reviews, even
[20:35] <ralsina> dobey: sure
[20:37] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu-sso-client/update-4-0/+merge/123635
[20:37] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/update-4-0/+merge/123636
[20:37] <ralsina> dobey: got'em
[20:43] <ralsina> dobey: I am getting broken pages in launchpad, hopefully it's chromium acting up...
[20:46] <dobey> ralsina: chromium, or your ISP, depending on what you mean by broken. oh, and godaddy dns stuff is down, so could be related
[20:46] <ralsina> dobey: I am getting blank texts in half the page
[20:46] <dobey> hrmm
[20:46] <dobey> works fine here
[20:47] <ralsina> so may be chromium. It's cranky since a couple of weeks ago anyway
[20:48] <mmcc> going to lunch. FYI, I think I've tracked my root daemon IPC issues down to memory management problems as a result of dropping ARC. Should be straightforward to fix
[20:48]  * mmcc crosses fingers
[21:01] <ralsina> mmcc: good news!
[21:07] <ralsina> dobey: +1 on sso
[21:07] <dobey> thanks
[21:12] <ralsina> dobey: and +1 on rb-u1
[21:12] <dobey> great
[21:12] <ralsina> I will go take some fresh air, will be back later
[21:12] <ralsina> dobey: any more reviews need doing?
[21:13] <dobey> not right now
[22:07] <dobey> alright all. i'm out of here. have a good evening!
[22:09] <mmcc> bye dobey
[22:48] <briancurtin> i guess time flies when you're porting webclient tests. with that, i'm out of here.
[22:51] <mmcc> Good News everyone: the root daemon works now
[22:51] <mmcc> (from launchd :)
[22:53] <mmcc> the last issue was that launchd gives you an opened file descriptor that you can't get the path to. so fcntl(…, F_GETPATH) dies.
[22:55] <mmcc> Also, I now have new standards for C-family-language code reviews: no more unchecked return values, or if( call_that_can_fail() ){} with no else…
[22:56] <mmcc> because fcntl doesn't actually die, it politely returns a failure value and sets errno with a mostly helpful explanation. You just have to listen…
[22:56]  * mmcc is done now
[23:09] <mmcc> I'll come back tonight to clean this up and propose it, and probably put up a new build sometime soon. Next, we need to figure out how to tell the user / give them a choice about what backend to use…
[23:09] <mmcc> or if to give them a choice
[23:09] <mmcc> ok, EOD for now