[11:49] <woody86> Mechdave, rdw200169_ ok, what would be something I can do from a live cd??
[11:49] <Tyrath> Baversjo: ah k. See I thought you installed both to different partitions. In which case I thought you would have set up a separate partition for each?
[11:49] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone tell me please, what is the function of the nosuid flag within fstab?
[11:49] <Baversjo> aksci: It asked me to import my documents but I declined.
[11:49] <[mbm]> mercutio22: n <enter> e <enter> <enter> <enter> ... until you get back to the Command prompt, then p <enter> to show what it's about to do
[11:49] <wayneward> im running rythmn box 0.11.5
[11:49] <usamahashimi> What router (company) is recommended for DSL sharing?
[11:50] <[mbm]> mercutio22: (it doesn't actually do anything until you tell it w)
 is ebox in ubuntu is also a good one?
[11:50] <Mechdave> woody86, from live distro open a terminal and sudo umount -a
[11:50] <ndlovu> rdw200169_, nope, it's going to an APC ups
[11:50] <mercutio22> mbm, sorry man, I am a little confused. I will do that now
[11:50] <grep65535> [mbm], mercutio22, good luck w/ that guys, sleep time for me >< hopefully it works out
[11:50] <Mechdave> then run fsck /dev/sda
[11:50] <aksci> Baversjo, post in your ~/menu.lst.  if your vista is /sda1,... your xp should be /sda5
[11:50] <mercutio22> grep65535: ok, thanks for the help
[11:50] <yao_ziyuan> my ubuntu in macosx look (without the docker): http://i37.tinypic.com/j94xg7.png
[11:50] <Mechdave> then run sudo fsck /dev/sda
[11:50] <mercutio22> grep65535: good night
[11:50] <wayneward> im runnng gos its just like mac osx!!
[11:50] <aksci> Baversjo, but thats apparantly not possible as neither vista nor xp allows installation on an extended partition
[11:51] <rdw200169_> ndlovu: well, that kills the easy questions...
[11:51] <king2676> has anyone tried ebox-ubuntu here?
[11:51] <rdw200169_> king2676: i messed with it a little bit
[11:51] <JonathanEllis> JonathanEllis: This is a test to see if the sound works when someone says my name. Please ignore
[11:51] <grep65535> king2676: I dont know much about ebox, but I'd start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox
[11:51] <[mbm]> mercutio22: see above for fdisk commands
[11:51] <Mechdave> mercutio22, that is ok, the disk will still partition ok
[11:51] <wayneward> ebox for the xbox?
[11:51] <rdw200169_> king2676: i would give it some more time to get into a more stable state, it's still missing a lot of features
[11:52] <Baversjo> aksci: http://pastebin.com/d133f0ae2
[11:52] <aksci> Baversjo, okay Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary... is the error! so you might have installed xp the way Tyrath has, on the same drive
 thanks
[11:52] <rdw200169_> ok, JonathanEllis
thanks
[11:52] <Baversjo> aksci: Oh no!
[11:53] <rdw200169_> king2676: that, and ebox has a bad habbit of taking total control...
[11:53] <mercutio22> mbm Its asking me where the " first cilinde" is. Can I just push enter, selecting the default option?
[11:53] <Baversjo> aksci: But I can see 2 windows partitions in the Ubuntu interface, the one on 80 gb and the one on 20
[11:53] <[mbm]> mercutio22: yep
[11:53] <Mechdave> mercutio22, just push enter
[11:53] <JonathanEllis> rdw200169_: Thanks. That works. Now I dont have to stare at the screen constantly in case I miss someone answering my questions :-D
[11:53] <[mbm]> mercutio22: when you get back to the prompt, do 'p <enter>' to show the partitions
[11:53] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone tell me what the nosuid flag is for when I mount filesystems in fstab?
 i just check it but i like the gui coz its better than webmin, since still not good thats not promising if im going to try it if its still having bugs
[11:54] <[mbm]> JonathanEllis: means that chmod +s doesn't work on the filesystem, which means applications can't run as root unless you're logged in as root
[11:54] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:54] <|Chrizz|> Baboom! Netsplit ftw
[11:55] <|Chrizz|> Baboom! Netsplit ftw
[11:55] <mercutio22> mbm, I Defaulted the "last cylinder" as well, now I am back at the fdisk command options
[11:55] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, it means you cannot run that file as sudo
[11:55] <Tyrath> yes! I just worked out how do make a new partition!
[11:56] <JonathanEllis> [mbm]: and Mechdave: Thanks. Is that a good thing? Is it recommended to set this flag on all partitions?
[11:56]  * Sorcererbob high 5's Tyrath
[11:56] <[mbm]> mercutio22: now: p <enter> (and pastebin the result)
[11:56] <Tyrath> thanks Sorcererbob
[11:56] <aksci> try putting another entry... http://pastebin.com/m357eb8fb
[11:56]  * Tyrath feels so intelligent all of a sudden
[11:56] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, Depends on what you are doing with your system
[11:56] <[mbm]> JonathanEllis: it's a security thing, but some programs need root permissions or they won't work, so you can't do it on your main filesystem
[11:56] <Baversjo> aksci: Do you know a solution? :P
[11:56] <Tyrath> I mean I sort of cheated cause I used GParted instead of console, but still...
[11:57] <mercutio22> mbm ok, I don' t see the swap partition. and " e" wasn' t accepted as an option. http://www.pastebin.ca/1255148
[11:57] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and mbm: I am adding separate partitions in fstab for /home and /home/jonathan/extraspace. Should I set this flag on those?
[11:58] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, Personally I would not do it filesystem wide as it can screw a lot of things up really bad... I just stick with maybe making my home directory no suid if you are paranoid
[11:58] <chilli0_> LOL netsplit
[11:58] <ikonia> chilli0_ why is that funny ?
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: So what will it prevent me screwing up?
[11:58] <Baversjo> aksci: sda5 is the Windows XP
[11:58] <[mbm]> mercutio22: did you originally have a swap partition?
[11:58] <chilli0_> it looks funny on mi iPod touch
[11:58] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: I am, after all, reasonably paranoid
[11:59] <aksci> Baversjo this http://paste.ubuntu.com/71328/ sorry
[11:59] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: since windows, we all have reason to be....
[11:59] <EF_Codd> I want to do some sort of transparent disk/ partition encryption like with FreeBSD and gbde and geli. What options do I have with the ubuntu repositories?
[11:59] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, All the nosuid flag will do is stop anyone gaining sudo root privileges and executing files in your home directory
[11:59] <EF_Codd> It'll need swap encrption
[12:00] <Baversjo> aksci: Sorry?
[12:00] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, If someone is logged in as root, well they can do what they want
[12:00] <EF_Codd> I said I'll be needing answers.
[12:00] <mercutio22> mbm yes... I think something is wrong. You see in the screenshot I sent you.. the last partition is fat32, I thought it would be my swap partition
[12:00] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, for a desktop I would not worry about it
[12:00] <JonathanEllis> How do I get rid of the annoying "<some user> left the room (quit: Client Quit)." messages? Sometimes the window scrolls by a hundred lines and I lose sight of the discussion
[12:00] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: Thanks
[12:00] <RealKillaz> hi I have a GM965/GL960 videocard... can you guys guide me howto setup so I can go to a resolution higher then 1024x768
[12:00] <king2676> thanks guys i'll be back later
[12:01] <[mbm]> mercutio22: kkeep in mind that fdisk is showing you the partitions in a different order
[12:01] <RealKillaz> it's an intel videocard
[12:01] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, no worries
[12:01] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: i wish i knew
[12:01] <JonathanEllis> Can anyone tell me how to change the volume level for my swap partition?
[12:01] <mercutio22> mbm ok, i see now
[12:02] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: you mean the size?'
[12:02] <EF_Codd> Well, from all my searching it looks like you can't. Guess I'll have to stick with FreeBSD. I can't believe there isn't an equivalent solution.
[12:02] <ikonia> EF_Codd wait for a response
[12:02] <ikonia> EF_Codd: you've waited 2 minutes
[12:02] <mercutio22> mbm, still... my swap is missing
[12:02] <[mbm]> mercutio22: all the fdisk command I gave you did was mark the unallocated space linux (and it still hasn't changed it on disk yet)
[12:03] <ferronica> when i paused playing movie on VLC , again restarted there is no sound!
[12:03] <EF_Codd> ikonia yes. patience is a virtue.
[12:03] <ditch64> just an FYI, i wouldnt play around with partitions while your booted, my HD ate itself because of that, use Live CD if your going to play with partitions
[12:03] <schnoodles> has anyone run into the bug (kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot...) when trying to boot into 8.10 ?
[12:03] <JonathanEllis> ditch64: No. I mean the partition volume label. I like to set a descriptive volume label for each partition so that if everything screws up and my mount points get lost I can see in GParted what each partition is supposed to be for
[12:03] <Mechdave> ferronica, try #vlc
[12:03] <mercutio22> mbm ok, I know. Should we try to apply that or should I worry where my swap is?
[12:04] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, prolly not a good idea to change the volume name
[12:04] <[mbm]> mercutio22: bring up another root terminal; apt-get install gpart; gpart /dev/sda
[12:04] <ferronica> Mechdave: not only vlc, no sound from from PC
[12:04] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: ya im with mechdave on that one
[12:04] <EF_Codd> Well, there is no linux equivalent.
[12:04] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and ditch64: Why? I have successfully labelled all my other partitions so I know what they are
[12:04] <ferronica> Mechdave: Rhythmbox no sound
[12:05] <tta> any ubuntu-devs? usb-creator, only able to use *buntu-desktop*.iso ? no other distro allowed?
[12:05] <EF_Codd> that makes me sick
[12:05] <metrick> If i have a windows xp iso, no cd burner, and no longer have windows, how can i install the windows program? without cd burning of course, dont have a burner atm
[12:05] <mercutio22> mbm gpart has no installation candidate
[12:05]  * ditch64 is back
[12:05]  * ditch64 is back
[12:05] <RealKillaz> anyone can help me with the intel videocard setting itto higherresolution?
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> metrick: its going to be wayyyy to  much effort. Just go and borrow a disk from someone
[12:05] <Sorcererbob> too *
[12:06] <ditch64> JonathanEllis: idk, someone told me not to when i wanted to, sooo lol
[12:06] <tonio> ciao a tutti
[12:06] <mercutio22> mbm gpart has no installation candidate
[12:06] <mercutio22> opos
[12:06] <mercutio22> sorry
[12:06] <[mbm]> mercutio22: hmm .. are we just screwing around trying to see if the partition can be recovered or are you trying to get data off the linux partition?
[12:06] <sajuuk> hey guys, im trying to get Eve online to work on ubuntu...  how do update my drivers for direct3d so that it doesnt crash? eve uses direct 3d but apparently wine can translate that direct3d into opengl, how can i get it to work?
[12:06] <JonathanEllis> metrick: What country are you in? I could burn it and mail it you if you like
[12:06] <panfist> last night i started a file transfer that got 99% completed from one drive to a raid array on the local system. it was frozen at 99% complete for 8 hours. now im trying to unmount to the drive and it says it is busy
[12:06] <metrick> sorcererbob: if you know how, ill take the long way, no one i know has their windows disk anymore
[12:07] <metrick> jonathanellis: hmm?
[12:07] <Sorcererbob> metrick, you could set up a network boot server and do a pxe boot from your machine. Trust me when I say its easier to install a new CD ROM drive
[12:07] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, all worry about is make sure that the partitions have the correct mount point as that in itself tells me what they are :)
[12:07] <EF_Codd> ikonia where's all my answers?
[12:07] <imot> hy
[12:07] <EF_Codd> who the hell is running this shambles?
[12:07] <JonathanEllis> metrick: If you want I can burn your windows iso to cd and mail it to you
[12:07] <EF_Codd> I want answers and I want them now!
[12:08] <mercutio22> mbm I would like to recover the partition with its data, but if something goes wrong I have a backup of my documents, I am not totally wasted. I just didn t wanna loose all the work tuning my ubuntu desktop
[12:08] <imot> ht
[12:08] <Tyrath> I really can't figure out how to put ubuntu on sda2
[12:08] <mercutio22> mbm so what do you say?
[12:08] <Mechdave> EF_Codd, we all are volunteers here, you can always google the question yourself
[12:08] <donald> Anyone know why Intrepid didn't have support for the Broadcom BCM4318 network card "out of the box"?
[12:08] <Tyrath> sda2 being a second partition I managed to create
[12:08] <histo> wow 80% usage of 4 cpus
[12:08] <JonathanEllis> EF_Codd: This is a chat room. Everyone here is a volunteer. If you want priority support I suggest you pay for it
[12:09] <rdw200169_> histo: what do you think of the Phenom?
[12:09] <EF_Codd> Mechdave I have. I found nothing. I thought perhaps one of the thousand users here had done similar through hacking together something.
[12:09] <hateball> donald╸ Proprietary firmware
[12:09] <EF_Codd> It makes me ill.
[12:09] <JonathanEllis> EF_Codd: And a little politeness goes a long way!
[12:09] <EF_Codd> why can't you just admit there is no similar solution?
[12:09] <[mbm]> mercutio22: fire up synaptic, settings->repositories and select universe .. either use synaptic or apt-get to install gpart
[12:09] <apadox> ok my problem .. i can't connect to wireless (no ecnrypt) and i cant connect to wired network  ( same wireless and wired router work on windows) and wired network works on other routers  this is lshw net and dhclient eth0 http://www.pastedump.com/paste/146
[12:09] <imot> ku
[12:10] <donald> You would at least think the basic install would have included ndiswrapper.  I had to go "wired" and download it first to get my network up.
[12:10] <imot> ?????????
[12:10] <EF_Codd> I've given my life to *nix, and this is how I get repaid?
[12:10] <JonathanEllis> EF_Codd: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[12:10] <EF_Codd> no wonder no one uses this debian lite anymore
[12:11] <Sorcererbob> apadox: what about wlan0?
[12:11] <mercutio22> mbm, got it, wilco.
[12:11] <savvas> tta: I've just added xubuntu alternate and it accepted it
[12:11] <apadox> Sorcererbob wireless is on eth1
[12:12] <rdw200169_> well, EF_Codd finally left
[12:12] <tta> savvas, yeah, I meant other than *buntu, like zenwalk or fedora or similar
[12:13] <rdw200169_> never mention the question, or introspective comment, hmm... i wonder how I could help, what a freeloader
[12:13] <mercutio22> mbm *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sda): seek failure.
[12:13] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you need to run gpart as root ;)
[12:13] <mercutio22> mbm done that
[12:13] <Sorcererbob> ah true
[12:14] <|Chrizz|> What is the best music player in ubuntu?
[12:14] <[mbm]> mercutio22: can you pastebin it?
[12:14] <adam7> !best | |Chrizz|
[12:14] <savvas> tta: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ :) or maybe https://edge.launchpad.net/liveusb works for other distributions
[12:14] <mercutio22> mbm sure
[12:14] <Sorcererbob> |Chrizz|, come on. Thats fairly subjective. have a look at rythmbox - the default. I like it best :)
[12:14] <adam7> |Chrizz|: that said, people usually like amarok (kde) or the one that comes with ubuntu or exaile or somethign similar
[12:14] <Tyrath> I keep getting this error /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly :(
[12:14] <Tyrath> - what does that mean?
[12:15] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255155
[12:15] <Tyrath> all I'm trying is move ubuntu to a new partition
[12:15] <[mbm]> Tyrath: grub stores part of the bootup on the disk .. that's saying it can't find that data on the disk
[12:15] <Mechdave> Tyrath, it means that stage1 is not in the right place or it is corrupted
[12:15] <tta> savvas, thanks for additional info, I were already aware of those, but were just wondering why default app in ubuntu is limited only to *buntu :(
[12:15] <Tyrath> Mechdave: how do I change that?
[12:16] <[mbm]> mercutio22: wrong paste .. gpart ?
[12:16] <Mechdave> Tyrath, do you have a bootable system?
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I need to reinstall grub on a new partition if I want grub to control the system
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I have no idea
[12:16] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok now is ubuntu still running?
[12:16] <jaycee> does any body know how to make the keyboard shortcuts of volume control work for both speaker nd earphones
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I've got two partitions and two OS only on one partition
[12:16] <Tyrath> Mechdave: ubuntu is runnin atm
[12:17] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255155
[12:17] <jpablanche> how to login to NickServ ?
[12:17] <jpablanche> what is the command?
[12:17] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok now, you want windows to boot as well?
[12:17] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I want to put ubuntu on its own separate partition instead of being on the win partition
[12:17] <[mbm]> mercutio22: you're not logged in as root on that terminal
[12:17] <ikonia> jpablanche join #freenode and ask
[12:17] <Sorcererbob> mercutio22: try "sudo gpart /dev/sda"
[12:17] <Tyrath> jpablanche: / /nickserv IDENTIFY <password>
[12:18] <Tyrath> jpablanche: //nickserv IDENTIFY <password>
[12:18] <mercutio22> mbm, yes I am, in the second and third attempt
[12:18] <Tyrath> without the double /
[12:18] <Mechdave> Tyrath, separate partition or hard drive?
[12:18] <Tyrath> only one /
[12:18] <Tyrath> Mechdave: separate partition
[12:18] <Tyrath> Mechdave: I've got ubuntu on the win partition
[12:19] <RealKillaz> it seems like I'm the only one facing this problem :-(
[12:19] <Tyrath> Mechdave: as in sda1 is windows and ubuntu
[12:19] <mercutio22> mbm, can you see?
[12:19] <[mbm]> mercutio22: yeah.. odd
[12:19] <Tyrath> Mechdave: whilst sda2 is empty
[12:19] <Mechdave> Tyrath, I am a little confused, I have never seen ubuntu installed on a win partition...
[12:19] <rdw200169_> Mechdave: it's part of wubi
[12:19] <rdw200169_> !wubi
[12:19] <savvas> tta: probably because each distribution has its own differences, not sure though.. good point, you could file a bug report about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/usb-creator/+filebug
[12:20] <Mechdave> rdw200169_, Aah thanks
[12:20] <tta> savvas, already on it ;)
[12:20] <Tyrath> Mechdave: if I mount sda1 it shows the windows files
[12:20] <Tyrath> Mechdave: if I mound sda2 it has one file in it called lost+found
[12:21] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok best way I can think of is back up your /home directory and do a full native reinstall on sda2
[12:21] <Tyrath> Mechdave: given sda1 takes up a lot of space I can only assume it has ubuntu on it aswell
[12:21] <[mbm]> mercutio22: sudo gpart -C 38913,255,63 /dev/sda
[12:21] <JonathanEllis> I have several partitions set up in fstab. One of them also appears as a media icon on the desktop, which is annoying. Any ideas please?
[12:21] <Tyrath> Mechdave: is there noway I can just install grub on sda2?
[12:21] <Mechdave> Tyrath, then uninstall wubi on /dev/sda1
[12:21] <Tyrath> !wubi
[12:21] <savvas> tta: notify me when you're done, I'd like to confirm it :)
[12:22] <Mechdave> Tyrath, you can but it won't do what you want :)
[12:22] <tta> savvas, ok.
[12:22] <Tyrath> Mechdave: what if I then set sda2 to boot?
[12:22] <mercutio22> mbm sme thing : *** Fatal error: dev(/dev/sda): seek failure.
[12:22] <Mechdave> Tyrath, but from what I understand you only have lost+found on sda2
[12:22] <Tyrath> Mechdave: the thing is I've set up ubuntu the way I like it. and reinstalling and fixing up everything will take ages. I had a bunch of issues when I first installed that I no longer have anymore :/
[12:22] <mercutio22> mbm maybe the entire partition was deleted
[12:23] <Tyrath> Mechdave: also I've written a bunch of files, installed a bunch of progs, removed a bunch of progs
[12:23] <[mbm]> mercutio22: program scans the disk itself looking for the partition
[12:23] <Dexter> hello to all
[12:23] <Tyrath> Mechdave: surely there's got to be someway I can just shift ubuntu to a partition?
[12:24] <Tyrath> Mechdave: or, install grub on the other partition and make that the default partition
[12:24] <ikonia> Tyrath not really
[12:24] <Mechdave> Tyrath, try the wubi faqs, I am not aware of any way
[12:24] <ikonia> Tyrath grub goes on the mbr not a partition
[12:24] <sajuuk> hey guys where can i download drivers for a 852GM/855GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 graphics card?
[12:24] <mercutio22> mbm I read in the manual it should be doing that. Its working though. Should we try the fdisk thing?
[12:24] <Dexter> i am a russian man
[12:24] <adam7> !ru | Dexter
[12:24] <punktalk> heyy i love irc big fan, people here are a huge help. that being said i have a pretty big problemmm =///
[12:24] <ikonia> sajuuk intel card ?
[12:24] <sajuuk> for ubuntu of course
[12:24] <sajuuk> yep
[12:24] <sajuuk> its for eve online
[12:24] <punktalk> can anyone help?
[12:24] <Tyrath> ikonia: so then what's the ubuntu boot if it's not grub?
[12:24] <James_UK> hello, can anyone help me boot winXP from grub please. Grub is installed on The linux partition which is on IDE2 Slave, XP is installed on SATA. Grub can see XP is there but it will not boot up
[12:24] <adam7> !enter | sajuuk
[12:25] <ikonia> Tyrath it is grub
[12:25] <Dexter> do you all have rassian people&
[12:25] <[mbm]> mercutio22: since gparted doesn't want to tell us the proper size of the partition you might aswell go back to fdisk and write the modfied partition to disk, giving the entire unallocated space to linux .. that'll let you mount it and backup any data
[12:25] <xukun> does anybody know a good howto get working pc's s-video to crt tv? like things to put in xorg and so on.
[12:25] <Dexter> on this flat&
[12:25] <Tyrath> ikonia: so then why does windows go on a partition and not ubuntu?
[12:25] <boubbin> can irun application from terminal without sounds? the application (pingus) doesnt have disable sounds option and it really has horrible sound effects :)
[12:25] <adam7> !ru > Dexter
[12:25] <mercutio22> mbm ok, good call
[12:25] <ikonia> Tyrath because it's a different os
[12:25] <Sorcererbob> James_UK: can we see a pastebin copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:25] <punktalk> anybody here who can help with driver problem?
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm how do I apply the changes?
[12:26] <ikonia> punktalk whats up
[12:26] <[mbm]> mercutio22: w
[12:26] <James_UK> sure Sorcererbob give me a min pls :)
[12:26] <Tyrath> ikonia: so are you saying you can't install ubuntu onto a seperate partition?
[12:26] <adam7> ikonia: Tyrath: is it possible to just dd the wubi file onto a parition?
[12:26] <Tyrath> ikonia: cause I don't get how ubuntu can take control of a system if it's not
[12:26] <ikonia> Tyrath I'm saying you can't move wubi
[12:26] <sajuuk> oh my OS is hardy heron, not intrepid
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm
[12:26] <Tyrath> !wubi
[12:26] <mercutio22> mbm I have to recover grub as well right?
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7 thats an interesting point, I'd guess no, unless you put a good ammount of work in to make sure your disk sizes match
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, you can use LVPM to move wubi to a partition
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: nvidia graphics card. dl driver thru hardware drivers, have to fix x-server to get back here. it says its in use, but not enabled.
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7: don't forget wubi just puts it on a "file" on the nfs disk
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: i need to find out how to load it without my visual failing.
[12:27] <Tyrath> Mechdave: does ubuntu control your boot?
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk what happens when you click enable
[12:27] <adam7> ikonia: yeah, never used wubi, it was just a suggestion :) getting the sizes to match would be a pain though
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk: hav you rebooted since downloading
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:27] <punktalk> asks me to restart
[12:27] <adam7> Tyrath: if you have some sort of external hard drive, you can back up the wubi install and then restore it to a real partition
[12:27] <ikonia> adam7 I agree, potentially yes, but a real big effort
[12:27] <Mechdave> Tyrath, it can
[12:27] <punktalk> ikonia: yes. it asks me to restart and i get the same problem.
[12:27] <ikonia> punktalk restart ?
[12:27] <schnoodles> is it possible to change your aptitude sources from within bash as where im trying to update from alot of the urls are broken
[12:27] <JonathanEllis> Is it good practise to have a dedicated boot partition? Currently I have winxp on a primary partition which is also the boot partition. Of course, when I eventually get round to deleting windows then I will need to rebuild GRUB so wondered if I should be proactive and make a small partition just for that. By the way, what is the point of primary partitions instead of making one extended partition and then making all partitions logical ones?
[12:27] <[mbm]> mercutio22: just mount the partition, copy data off it and then reinstall linux properly .. not worth trying to recover any more with the partition in that state
[12:28] <punktalk> ive restarted when it asks me to several times, yes why?
[12:28] <Tyrath> Mechdave: so then you must have ubuntu running its own partition, no?
[12:28] <mercutio22> mbm... agreed
[12:28] <adam7> JonathanEllis: windows can't install on extended. if you plan on having more than one linux distro a boot parition won't hurt
[12:28] <sybux> Hi all, I've got some problem with a sshfs mount.
[12:28] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I always have a dedicated /boot as if anything goes wrong ( as it has done) it is easier to access it from a grub boot floppy
[12:28] <sybux> I can edit files throw vi but not with gedit anyone know why ?
[12:29] <adam7> sybux: do you need root to access it?
[12:29] <Tyrath> sybux: try sudo gedit
[12:29] <punktalk> ikonia: any ideas? thanks for the help man.
[12:29] <Mechdave> Tyrath, If you set up grub to boot both Ubuntu and XP then Ubuntu must live on its own partition
[12:29] <savvas> punktalk: which nvidia graphics card do you have? can you post the output of this command (Applications > Accessories > Terminal): lspci | grep -i nv
[12:29] <ikonia> punktalk what card do you have ? I missed that
[12:29] <sybux> I've also tried but it also bad. I can only open the file in read-only mode
[12:29] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave and adam7: Thanks. So windows can only run from a primary partition - that sucks! But then so do most things MS - I should be used to it. Am I right in thinking you cant move a primary partition either?
[12:30] <punktalk> nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS.
[12:30] <punktalk> savvas: ill do that, hang on.
[12:30] <sybux> Tyrath: actually I open my sshfs connection with root
[12:30] <Tyrath> Mechdave: see the thing is if I want to change boot settings I have to use boot.ini on windows :/
[12:30] <punktalk> savvas: what exactly should i look for with that command line? it gives a lot.
[12:31] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I can't think of a reason you couldn't. What I would recommend (since you can only have three primary partitions) is one primary boot partition, one primary partition for whatever your current OS is (that way, if you need Windows in the future you can easily reinstall) and one extended partition for everything else
[12:31] <mercutio22> mbm it looks like it was windows
[12:31] <ditch64> hey could there be anything in the bios of my computer thats not letting me boot from grub? i get error 21 EVERY time on this stupid desktop nomatter what everybody tells me to do
[12:31] <mercutio22> oh man
[12:31] <Mechdave> Tyrath, that is right while you are running wubi, but if you use LVPM to put Ubuntu on sda2 then you use grub to change settings
[12:31] <savvas> punktalk: a line for "VGA"
[12:31] <adam7> sybux: if you add a -o allow_others option to the sshfs command anyone can access it
[12:31] <punktalk> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GTS (rev a1)
[12:31] <Tyrath> Mechdave: how do I do that?
[12:31] <sybux> adam7: it says :  option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf
[12:32] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I have never worried about it... although I suppose you could use gparted
[12:32] <yedday> Can anyone tell mme the open source linux alternative to PDF XCHANGE VIEWER?
[12:32] <[mbm]> mercutio22: ohwell, should be able to get data off it .. just not worth the effort to figure out the exact partition size
[12:32] <adam7> Tyrath: do you have an external hard disk, usb flash drive, or something? you can just back up the wubi install, then restore it on a proper partition
[12:32] <savvas> punktalk: post the output of this command now: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-177 | grep Installed
[12:32] <tta> savvas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/297634
[12:32] <Mechdave> Ok visit this site for instructions on LVPM --> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:32] <Tyrath> adam7: how much space will I need?
[12:32] <savvas> thanks tta
[12:33] <Mechdave> Tyrath, Ok visit this site for instructions on LVPM --> http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[12:33] <adam7> Tyrath: depends on the size of your install
[12:33] <punktalk> savvas: W: Unable to locate package nvidia-glx-177
[12:33] <Tyrath> adam7: for ibex?
[12:33] <adam7> Tyrath: is it a fresh install? have you installed any additional packages?
[12:33] <Tyrath> adam7: i've installed and deleted packages, written files, etc.
[12:33] <jaycee> Can anyone tell me how to make the keyboard shortcuts of volume control work for both speaker nd earphones?
[12:34] <mercutio22> mbm... i can' t mount the partition
[12:34] <histo> rdw200169_: I just bought a phenom for a friend i'm building a system for. But i'm not running one with 4 cpus. I'm running a multi xeon system.
[12:34] <savvas> punktalk: this now: lsb_release -drc | xargs
[12:34] <[mbm]> jaycee: system->prefs->sound and set the mixer
[12:34] <JonathanEllis> adam7: At the moment, I have a primary partition with winxp on it. Thats my boot partition. Then I have an extended partition with Hardy on a logical partition and another logical partition for swap. Then i have a separate hard disk with a large extended partition with a logical partition mounted as /home and another logical partition for swap. I was told there are speed advantages to spreading swap across two separate physical devices
[12:34] <adam7> ikonia: do you know if the wubi file is a bit-for-bit copy of the root partition
[12:35] <[mbm]> mercutio22: what error message?
[12:35] <rdw200169_> histo: ah, i assumed, my bad
[12:35] <ne2k__> I'm trying to transcode to MPEG PS with mpeg2 video and mpeg2 audio using vlc, but I get an "ffmpeg encoder error: cannot open encoder" -- I have installed ffmpeg. what is missing?
[12:35] <punktalk> savvas: Description: Ubuntu 8.04.1 Release: 8.04 Codename: hardy
[12:35] <ikonia> adam7 not %100, but I don't believe it is
[12:35] <ikonia> adam7: my opion - no
[12:35] <rdw200169_> histo: i was pretty stoked when i did the same thing for a friends' computer...
[12:35] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, How much ram do you have?
[12:35] <ikonia> opinion
[12:35] <JonathanEllis> 1GB
[12:35] <adam7> ikonia: ok, just thinking that one could stick the livecd, mount it loopback, copy the files onto a real partition, and reboot
[12:35] <mercutio22> mbm http://www.pastebin.ca/1255178
[12:36] <rdw200169_> histo: phenom can do number crunching heavy processing tasks like a champ, like encoding mp3's
[12:36] <savvas> punktalk: this one: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new | grep Installed
[12:36] <rdw200169_> histo: or heavy network processing...
[12:36] <[mbm]> mercutio22: file -s /dev/sda6
[12:36] <punktalk> savvas:   Installed: 169.12+<IP_ADDRESS>-21.51
[12:37] <divine_> hi. ubuntu 8.10 does not allow dvd drive to be used, ubuntu has set the permissions so that no normal user has access, how can i fix this?
[12:37] <mercutio22> mbm /dev/sda6: data
[12:37] <divine_> this is in my /etc/fstab: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:37] <savvas> punktalk: and this: glxinfo | grep direct
[12:37] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, I have swap on the same drive as the system with little or no slowdown, yo could put swap on a separate hard drive for added speed if you want
[12:37] <adam7> JonathanEllis: if you use a lot of swap, having two hdds are a major advantage. If you plan to wipe your Windows install, what I would do is wipe it, then use gparted to resize that parition so that it's about 40MB smaller, and then make a 40MB boot partition at the beginning of the disk (assuming 40MB is enough for /boot)
[12:37] <[mbm]> mercutio22: means our guess about where to put the partition was wrong
[12:37] <adam7> JonathanEllis: if you never use swap, then there is no advantage to having it on two disks (ie, you have 6 GB of ram)
[12:38] <ditch64> !lilo
[12:38] <rdw200169_> Mechdave: JonathanEllis: it is *always* best to have enough ram, that you never need swap...
[12:38] <mercutio22> mbm, I see...
[12:38] <punktalk> savvas: alright, what part of that do u want? theres a lot.
[12:38] <ditch64> well grub doesnt work grr
[12:38] <savvas> punktalk: paste it at www.pastebin.com :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> divine_: mines identical
[12:38] <Mechdave> rdw200169_, that is correct, although when compiling a kernel I always use a little swap
[12:38] <Tyrath> Mechdave: An error has been encountered in accessing this page
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> divine_: when you say access, do you mean read or write or both
[12:39] <vpereira> there is any usb wlan token that is plug and play with ubuntu?
[12:39] <Mechdave> Tyrath, try again, it may just be a timeout
[12:39] <divine_> ActionParsnip, write access, currently the permissions are: drwxr-xr-x 3  501 dialout  592 2008-08-29 09:54 cdrom0  -- and i cant use chmod on that dir, it should be in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <JonathanEllis> rdw200169_, adam7, Mechdave: I only have 1GB of RAM and no more space to install anymore. Since I have two hard disks lying around and needed them both anyway for storage space it seemed sensible to have two swap partitions for load balancing. If I had a newer machine I would just buy more RAM but that would involve spending more pennies than I can spare right now
[12:39] <Tyrath> Mechdave: same deal
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> !wifi | vpereira
[12:39] <boubbin> can irun application from terminal without sounds? the application (pingus) doesnt have disable sounds option and it really has horrible sound effects :)
[12:40] <Tyrath> !lvpm
[12:40] <Tyrath> !LVPM
[12:40] <punktalk> savvas: sorry, the second one
[12:40] <adam7> JonathanEllis: yeah, 1GB is enough for nearly everything.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> divine_: you cant write to a cd like that, you need an app
[12:40] <|Chrizz|>  "firefox ix already running, but is not responding"
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !burner | divine_
[12:40] <|Chrizz|> How did i kill a process again?
[12:40] <Tyrath> !tv
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: ps -ef | grep fire
[12:40] <Mechdave> Tyrath, odd for sourceforge...
[12:40] <[mbm]> mercutio22: either play around with gpart or start the reinstall
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: then kill its PID
[12:41] <Tyrath> Mechdave: it doesn't use javascript or anything does it?
[12:41] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: wow, you're in the dark ages!
[12:41] <mercutio22> mbm... ok man, thanks for having all the trouble.. I will try to get gpart to work somehow
[12:41] <Mechdave> Tyrath, not that I know of...
[12:41] <divine_> ActionParsnip, actually, i just wanna run Installer.exe with wine, but i think it fails over permissions, "dialout" is the group owner and non-existing user 501 is the owner of the cdrom; thats doesnt seem right
[12:41] <savvas> punktalk: ok we'll have to re-create xorg.conf, execute this command and tell me when done: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:42] <vpereira> i just wanna know if somebody tried once a usb wlan token that works out of the box with ubuntu
[12:42] <JonathanEllis> rdw200169_: Yes its a six year old PC but thats the great thing about linux - it flies along compared to windows
[12:42] <punktalk> =) thanks man
[12:42] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: touche
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> divine_: with drwxr-xr-x everybody can execute
[12:42] <|Chrizz|> thx ActionParsnip
[12:42] <punktalk> savvas: it asks for my password? but i cant type......
[12:43] <Tyrath> Mechdave: ok it's working now. I left out the http:// and for some weird reason it didn't work
[12:43] <savvas> punktalk: type it in (it won't show dots or stars or anything) and press enter
[12:43] <[mbm]> vpereira: don't hold your breath; most cheap wifi stuff uses broadcom chipsets
[12:43] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, you can get away with no swap if you want with 1Gb of ram
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> divine_: add yourself to the group "dialou"
[12:43] <punktalk> oh wow alright (im super newb btw) thanks man
[12:43] <Mechdave> Tyrath, strange :/
[12:43] <a_>  hi, i got ubuntu for my curiosity but if i cant figure out how to work a .run that isnt available on the package manager i wont have a graphics card and have to wipe it for windows again. any tips?
[12:44] <savvas> punktalk: we all passed that (weird) test ;)
[12:44] <a_> i didnt
[12:44] <JonathanEllis> Mechdave: Well the swap partitions are not taking up too much of my 80GB of hard disk space so I will leave them there. I guess ubuntu wont use them unless it needs to
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> a_: you need to chmod a+x <filename>.run
[12:44] <punktalk> savvas: this came up, also what happened when i 'fix x-server':    xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[12:44] <punktalk>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20081113044344
[12:44] <punktalk> (oops sorry. hahahah thanks savvas)
[12:44] <Mechdave> JonathanEllis, that is true
[12:44] <savvas> punktalk: that's ok, anything else?
[12:44] <[mbm]> a_: sh *.run
[12:44] <lovey> hi
[12:44] <rdw200169_> JonathanEllis: you can see if it uses it in the System Monitor applet in gnome
[12:44] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: Unfortunately I am not willing to delete windows yet as I have one application that I need (to transfer data to my mobile phone)
[12:44] <a_> mbm: means nothing to me
[12:45] <punktalk> savvas: uhh nope just took me back to the regular command line.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> a_: run it in terminal
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | a_
[12:45] <savvas> punktalk: ok great, do this now: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvigia-glx-new
[12:45] <a_> with filepath aor anything?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> a_: you need to be in the same folder as the file, or you can specify the file with absoluteness
[12:45] <jrib> a_: what .run?  What is it for?
[12:46] <punktalk> savvas: E: Couldn't find package nvigia-glx-new
[12:46] <|Chrizz|> Why cant 2 diffrent programs send sounds over my soundcard?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> jrib: sounds like an nvidia driver to me
[12:46] <savvas> punktalk: my bad, try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-new nvidia-settings
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> |Chrizz|: are you using alsa?
[12:46] <[mbm]> both ati and nvidia use the self extracting run files
[12:46] <punktalk> ahh thank you savvas
[12:46] <a_> thats what i want nividia drivers for 7800 gs and its downloadable from nvidia but its a run file
[12:47] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: I dont know if WINE will work talking to a mobile phone on a USB cable. Suppose I could try it
[12:47] <|Chrizz|> ActionParsnip Yes
[12:47] <jrib> a_: Use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:47] <Mechdave> a_, ok you need to navigate to the same directory as the .run file through a terminal
[12:47] <rayb0t> hey does anybody use wine + steam here? i'm trying to install steam and it does not seem to install completely. trying to run it gives me various missing .dll problems..
[12:47] <jrib> a_: a .run is not optimal
[12:47] <savvas> punktalk: tell me when it's done
[12:47] <punktalk> just finished
[12:47] <Mechdave> a_, then type sh name_of_file.run
[12:47] <punktalk> XD dude... thank you so much.
[12:47] <a_> jrib: whatever works
[12:47] <a_> will do dave
[12:47] <jrib> rayb0t: check appdb.winehq.org
[12:48] <savvas> punktalk: n/p, just hold a second :)
[12:48] <punktalk> =) aight
[12:48] <mercutio22> mbm, have you heard of testdisk?
[12:48] <divine_> ActionParsnip: think i know the problem, this is the permission on the files on the cdrom: drwx------ 2 501 dialout     492 2008-08-29 09:54 DirectX
[12:49] <a_> terminal said "can't open file"
[12:49] <divine_> ActionParsnip, so it denies everyone access because user 501 does not exist. where does ubuntu get this info from? where?
[12:49] <savvas> punktalk: ok, execute this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> divine_: then you're stuck as its a ROM (read only memory)
[12:49] <ircdef> /q
[12:49] <iss> cn?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> divine_: depends wherre it was burned
[12:49] <iss> ubuntu-cn?
[12:49] <iss> how to join ubuntu cn
[12:49] <IdleOne> !cn
[12:49] <a_> should i put the full path in?
[12:49] <Mechdave> a_, have yo followed the instructions from nvidia?
[12:50] <iss> "/join ##ubuntu-cn"?
[12:50] <divine_> ActionParsnip, the permissions are NOT on CD/DVD! Ubuntu does that, not the dvd
[12:50] <a_> they give none
[12:50] <[mbm]> mercutio22: haven't tried it .. did it work?
[12:50] <Mechdave> a_, yes
[12:50] <savvas> punktalk: paste the output to www.pastebin.com
[12:50] <IdleOne> iss: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <punktalk> savvas: kk
[12:50] <a_> "not supported" xp
[12:50] <iss> oh..
[12:50] <iss> thx
[12:50] <punktalk> there
[12:50] <a_> what about xconfig... will it run the correct drivers of the net?
[12:50] <Mechdave> a_, you have got the linux install?
[12:50] <a_> i have ubuntu
[12:50] <vpereira> would be cool if ubuntu could support wireless usb sticks..
[12:51] <Tyrath> Mechdave: is lvpm supposed to take a while to download?
[12:51] <vpereira> i'm checking the internet a lot of peole have the same problems
[12:51] <inSanity_> hi ppl, I'm new to freenx
[12:51] <Mechdave> a_, you have got the ubuntu install?
[12:51] <jrib> vpereira: would be cool if hardware manufacturers...
[12:51] <a_> its an older one but its updated
[12:51] <rdw200169_> jrib: agree.
[12:51] <Mechdave> Tyrath, dunno, never tried to do anything with it
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> divine_: yep, ubuntu will do that if you selected biurn for Linux only afaik
[12:51] <inSanity_> Can anyone help me with freenx? I can setup a connection but then the window disappears
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> divine_: i'd make the group then add your user to it
[12:51] <savvas> punktalk: ok now save your work, log out, wait until it shows the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+Backspace and login, then come back to fix the resolution
[12:52] <divine_> ActionParsnip, well this is an official dvd for World of Warcraft. i should convince ubuntu to mount it as my normal user with proper permissions, probably in /etc/fstab as parsed option
[12:52] <a_> is there an app whee i can browse and select a .run to run?
[12:52] <lianimator> where do I copy a ttf font file to install?
[12:52] <Pici> !fonts | lianimator this should help
[12:52] <punktalk> savvas: dude, youre a god. thank you so much.
[12:52] <jrib> a_: why aren't you just using the intended method for installing nvidia drivers I told you about?  It's a gui
[12:52] <|Chrizz|> Why cant 2 diffrent programs send sounds over my soundcard? (Using ALSA)
[12:52] <mercutio22> mbm its gonna take a while to finnish I have to go to work, I will finish later. If you are here, I will tell you how it went
[12:52] <divine_> ActionParsnip, only user gets permissions, not even the group (zero permisions on the files). ill search a bit tho. seems this is a common problem for ubuntu.
[12:53] <punktalk> savvas: lol save my work
[12:53] <inSanity_> |Chrizz| that's because they both use ALSA and that's one of the features it has
[12:53] <mercutio22> mbm thanks a lot for your effort. I appreciate it. be back later
[12:53] <Ongavezirr> Ongavezir the Holyness come back again
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> divine_: you could copy to your HDD then chown / chmod
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> divine_: then rm when its installed
[12:53] <savvas> lianimator: in ~/.fonts/ folder and then execute: fc-cache -f ~/.fonts/
[12:53] <inSanity_> Anyone familiair with freeNX ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !freenx
[12:54] <inSanity_> ActionParsnip: I followed the instruction
[12:54] <Mu5> Anyone play world of warcraft, can not install WotLK ... any help?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> inSanity_: i dont use it, i use ssh
[12:55] <inSanity_> but it gets stuck when itś  setting up a connection to <IP_ADDRESS>:5000
[12:55] <Ongavezirr> Where is the muttafucka holy shit fat linuks-penguin now?
[12:55] <a_> hey i bet someone could write a tutorial how to use .run files
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> a_: theres tonnes
[12:55] <jrib> a_: did you see what I told you?
[12:55] <iss_> why my keyboard cant use backspace and direction key .
[12:55] <divine_> ActionParsnip, yeah doing that now. just hoped it worked like it should ;(
[12:55] <Mechdave> a_, what is the url of the file you have got?
[12:55] <bazhang> a_, for that there is no need
[12:55] <a_> jrib: it said "cant open file"
[12:55] <Mechdave> Pici, thanks
[12:55] <a_> its the nvidia drivers for graphics
[12:55] <inSanity_> ActionParsnip: yeah I use that on my servers too, but this is desktopping ;)
[12:55] <a_> i will find it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> a_: whats the name of the file?
[12:56] <jrib> a_: no it didn't.  You aren't using System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[12:56] <iss_> and when i use keypad ubuntu will logout
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> inSanity_: then ive no idea
[12:57] <ne2k__> inSanity_: polish keymap?
[12:57] <a_> i will look at hardware drivers so but i still need to use .run files after that
[12:57] <jrib> a_: no.  You don't need the .run at all.  And you probably will never need it.  Use repositories to install software by using System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[12:58] <davidw> so, I'm at my wits' end....
[12:58] <a_> i have only system>admin>restricted drivers and it says i dont use any
[12:58] <Mechdave> a_, I am with jrib
[12:58] <a_> i WILL need .run files
[12:58] <jrib> a_: what version of ubuntu?
[12:58] <davidw> do you guys have any ideas for workarounds for the messed up wireless in Intrepid?
[12:58] <bazhang> a_what card
[12:58] <savvas> a_: which graphics card?
[12:58] <C0p3rn1c> how do you fix the overlay problem with tvtime?
[12:58] <a_> i have some for games such as sauerbraten they are not in the package manager
[12:58] <a_> nvidia 7800 gs
[12:58] <jrib> !info sauerbraten | a_
[12:59] <asociacija> hello..please tell me how to play m2ts format? if i try to play it with VLC only sound is..
[12:59] <paul68> rdw200169_: you still awake my friend?
[12:59] <lianimator> savvas: I can't find a ~/fonts/ folder. I found /usr/share/fonts/ though.
[12:59] <a_> ubottu: size more like 360mb
[13:00] <a_> xD
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: I said .fonts, dot fonts :)
[13:00] <jrib> a_: it depends on other packages
[13:00] <a_> what does?
[13:00] <jrib> a_: sauerbraten
[13:00] <lianimator> savvas: there is only ~/.fontsconfig/
[13:00] <a_> yes it does but it installs off a .run (and so does lots of stuff)
[13:00] <lianimator> savvas: would it be the same if I created a ~/.fonts/ folder?
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: mkdir -p ~/.fonts/
[13:00] <savvas> lianimator: yep :)
[13:01] <a_> (such as my nvidia drivers)
[13:01] <jrib> a_: you can do whatever you want, but you're just making your life harder and compromising the security of your system by installing things through run files
[13:01] <metrick> I just got a pioneer dvr-103va DVD/RW but whenever i try putting it into my comp it tells m its an unknown device, all i have is ubuntu, no windows. Is there a way i can put this driver on and install it on ubuntu?
[13:01] <metrick> sorry for the confusing question
[13:01] <savvas> a_: execute this (Applications > Accessories > Terminal): sudo apt-get install envyng-core; sudo envy-ng
[13:01] <savvas> a_: follow the instructions
[13:02] <lianimator> savvas: thanks. that worked.
[13:02] <savvas> lianimator: note that ~/.fonts makes it accessible only for your user account :)
[13:02] <a_> jrib: if it says .run what can i do? its not on the package manager
[13:02] <lianimator> savvas: yup, figured. I'm the only user ;)
[13:02] <a_> here is the address of the drivers someone was looking for : http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1.run
[13:03] <fogobogo> o rly?
[13:03] <savvas> a_: use envyng: sudo envyng -t
[13:03] <jrib> a_: sauerbraten and nvidia drivers are both in the package manager.  You never answered my question about your version of ubuntu
[13:03] <serengeti> hi, is it possible to update & add packages to a system installed using usb-creator?
[13:03] <bazhang> a_ that is not needed
[13:03] <inSanity_> ne2k__: no sorry, just plain us international
[13:03] <a_> jrib: sauerbraten wasnt last night and nvidia has no clue which one is the driver....
[13:04] <jrib> a_: and again you fail to answer my question....
[13:04] <a_> jrib: i also need them for my mother board how do i figure out what to install?
[13:04] <EF_Codd> Is $69.99 a good deal for a fully loaded Gutsy Gibbon Ubuntu? It's second hand
[13:04] <a_> what questioon?
[13:04] <EF_Codd> On 2 CDs
[13:04] <jrib> a_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:04] <ditch64> hey im in supergrub on my desktop, is there anyway i can freakin skip grub so i can install LILO?
[13:04] <a_> oh version? its almost 2 years old but updated online
[13:04] <jrib> EF_Codd: you are just by CDs?
[13:04] <jrib> !version | a_
[13:05] <savvas> a_: paste at www.pastebin.com the output of this command: lsb_release -a; sudo lshw
[13:05] <JonathanEllis> Any opinions on what is a good size for a winxp partition that I wont use much. It will only have a small number of applications and no documents, pictures, sounds or anything like that?
[13:05] <jrib> EF_Codd: you are just buying CDs?
[13:05] <EF_Codd> jrib well, the guy is going to install it for me, so I don't actually get the CDs. But he said it's 2 CDs worth of stuff
[13:05] <a_> what is a shell and savvas... wehere do i enter that command?
[13:05] <EF_Codd> He said I could make a full image or something later with dd
[13:05] <a_> pure noob here
[13:05] <JonathanEllis> I dont want to give it too much space
[13:05] <jrib> EF_Codd: all the software is free in ubuntu
[13:05] <EF_Codd> jrib not for fully loaded, he said
[13:06] <EF_Codd> jrib said it had grub and everything
[13:06] <jrib> EF_Codd: you should ask for details.  grub is free.
[13:06] <savvas> a_: I gave you a command earlier, which you haven't read, menu Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[13:06] <JonathanEllis> Or more to the point. What is a good amount of free space on a winxp partition?
[13:06] <a_> this ubuntu is feisty rib 7.04
[13:06] <punktalk> savvas: u still here?
[13:06] <EF_Codd> jrib hmm, I already put down a $30 deposit
[13:06] <savvas> a_: ah, then never mind :)
[13:06] <a_> say again what to type but exactly what to type
[13:06] <savvas> a_: feisty is outdated, upgrade to at least gutsy or hardy
[13:06] <savvas> punktalk: yep
[13:06] <jrib> a_: feisty is EOL and no longer supported.  You need to upgrade
[13:07] <jrib> !upgrade > a_
[13:07] <a_> i upgraded on the auto is it not anyn use?
[13:07] <savvas> punktalk: had problems? :\
[13:07] <EF_Codd> jrib ah ok. He said he can do a Feisty Fawn for me for $50 even if I do it today
[13:07] <EF_Codd> i mean only if I do it today
[13:07] <jrib> EF_Codd: feisty is EOL, it's no longer supported
[13:07] <a_> right io am looking at upgrading stuff thanks
[13:07] <EF_Codd> jrib :( I can't really afford more than $70
[13:07] <whyameye> is there any way that I can set the input volume of my sound card so it "sticks" between reboots i.e. I set a volume and when I reboot that volume setting is retained from the last session?
[13:07] <punktalk> savvas: hey man. yeahhh =/. it just gave me the same "running in low resolution mode" bs and the screen was all off center, tried replugging the cords and restarting the moniter, didn't do anything.
[13:07] <ikonia> EF_Codd: I thought you where going to bsd
[13:08] <punktalk> savvas: i had to fix x-server again
[13:08] <ikonia> EF_Codd: your parting comment said ubuntu was rubbish and you where going back to bsd - why are you still here ?
[13:08] <EF_Codd> ikonia I've been using FreeBSD for years
[13:08] <EF_Codd> ikonia I wanted to troll a bit
[13:08] <ikonia> EF_Codd: stop now
[13:08] <EF_Codd> no
[13:08] <EF_Codd> kick me
[13:08] <savvas> there you go :)
[13:08] <chadeldridge> lol
[13:08] <punktalk> lol
[13:09] <PUNISHER> Здравствуйте, ребята!
[13:09] <savvas> punktalk: ok wait a sec
[13:09] <bazhang> !ru | PUNISHER
[13:09] <PUNISHER> Облазил все, что только можно, помогите с bluetooth
[13:09] <punktalk> aight thanks man
[13:09] <igors> hi all..anybody could help to change a file encoding? thats what's i'm trying: http://dpaste.com/90462/
[13:09] <a_> yeah i have upgrades, thanks, will shout again with my new problems l;ater xD
[13:09] <PUNISHER> I, I forget that is english channel =)
[13:09] <PUNISHER> I have a problem at my Bluetooth adapter
[13:10] <PUNISHER> Can you halp me?
[13:10] <Yuretsz> ls
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin > vinny
[13:10] <PUNISHER> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp. Bluetooth Device
[13:10] <JonathanEllis> !info pidgin
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> pidgin rocks
[13:11] <savvas> punktalk: can you paste at www.pastebin.com the output of: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:11] <punktalk> yep
[13:11] <savvas> ActionParsnip: empathy does too :p
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> savvas: or install pastebinit
[13:11] <PUNISHER> Bus sdtool browse show "connection time out"
[13:11] <hellboy3> hi
[13:12] <susi_> #so.cs.unibo.it
[13:12] <Ruge> hey guys
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !hi | ruge
[13:12] <Ruge> im installing ubuntu right now..but ran into an issue
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: wassup
[13:12] <serengeti> igors, I think it's all right - if there are only ascii characters in the file, it will show up as ascii and not utf-8
[13:12] <Ruge> i just booted off the disc
[13:12] <Ruge> and ran ubuntu
[13:12] <punktalk> savvas: there it is
[13:12] <Ruge> but its all garbled on my screen!
[13:12] <Ruge> i can only read 1/2 of teh error msg
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: did you md5 check the image you downloaded as well as checking the disk for errors?
[13:13] <SiDi> Hi
[13:13] <serengeti> igors, utf-8 is the same as ascii for the basic characters
[13:13] <whyameye> Ruge: define garbled.
[13:13] <SiDi> Does anyone know which file is modifed by vino-preferences, please?
[13:13] <Ruge> i burnt an ubuntu image directly from a CD that game with a magazine
[13:13] <Stargazer> Hey all, i'm using hardy heron. i know it's not my download speed cause i can download something at my max speed, 60kB/s, so is it the servers or something cause my updates are downloading at like 6000B/s ?
[13:13] <vinny> so amsn can't handle it pidgin can't with what can you talk with live webcam image?
[13:13] <Ruge> i see like 3 screens in 1 monitor, overlapping each toher
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: have you checked the cd for defects when it forst boots
[13:13] <Ruge> looks like a resolution thing
[13:14] <Ruge> hmmm i didnt check the disc
[13:14] <vinny> that's great Ruge
[13:14] <Ruge> how could i do that?
[13:14] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: give it a check to to be sure
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: read the first thing you see when the cd initially loads
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: you could also read this
[13:14] <whyameye> Ruge: I think there is an option to boot in VGA mode or safe graphics or something like that. Have you tried that?
[13:14] <vinny> the year is almost 2009
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | ruge
[13:14] <Ruge> cheers
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Ruge: you could try disabling acpi
[13:15] <Ruge> ill reset my laptop
[13:15] <Ruge> and find that option
[13:15] <Ruge> <--- n00b lol
[13:15] <punktalk> lol k
[13:15] <savvas> punktalk: done? :)
[13:15] <Mechdave> Ruge, I think you will be needing no frame buffer option
[13:15] <punktalk> yep. need to add to apps?
[13:16] <Ruge> no frame buffer option?
[13:16] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.* | pastebinit
[13:16] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know if ide-scsi was replaced with something? I can't find it anywhere, nor ide-cd
[13:16] <Ruge> ive got it checkign my disc atm
[13:16] <savvas> punktalk: give me the link when it's done
[13:16] <punktalk> http://pastebin.com/f370a94e1
[13:16] <Stargazer> Hey guys, why are the hardy updates so slow ?
[13:17] <vinny> Stargazer, what do you mean?
[13:17] <punktalk> jesus christ
[13:17] <vinny> HEY
[13:17] <[mbm]> OxDeadC0de: after the kernels switched voer to the new libata code everything switched to scci sd* devices anyway
[13:17] <vinny> don't misuse the name of the Lord punktalk!!
[13:17] <savvas> punktalk: ok wait
[13:17] <Mechdave> Ruge, no worries
[13:17] <OxDeadC0de> [mbm] so if I want to load the kernel module for an ide cd/rw what module do I load?
[13:17] <deadtommy> ver irc.easynews.com
[13:18] <OxDeadC0de> ide-sd?
[13:18] <vinny> so many people logging on and off there's no trackable conversation possible here
[13:18] <Tyrath> is wubi wubildr.exe ?
[13:18] <Stargazer> Vinny, i can download someting from say rapidshare at my full 60kB/s. but when something downloads and gets updated in hardy it goes at about 12kB/s.
[13:18] <vinny> maybe hardy is just so knew everybody wants stuff from it
[13:18] <vinny> of course, I'm just a peabrain
[13:18] <punktalk> k
[13:18] <[mbm]> OxDeadC0de: load the module? let hal take care of that at startup, no need to manually load modules
[13:19] <Stargazer> Vinny, hardy is 8.04. the new one is intrepid which 8.10.
[13:19] <OxDeadC0de> [mbm] well hal isn't working for this guy then, it's not loading his cd/rw
[13:19] <vinny> intrepid is really cool I can tell you from here
[13:19] <BulBulRed> [14:18] <vinny> so many people logging on and off there's no trackable conversation possible here
[13:19] <BulBulRed> i just disabled messages like join, part, quit, topic changes, ...
[13:20] <BulBulRed> i just see people typing, that's all
[13:20] <BulBulRed> maybe you could try that :)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> OxDeadC0de: its loaded by default
[13:20] <bazhang> vinny, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <punktalk> savvas?
[13:20] <OxDeadC0de> He says his cd/rw was working fine in 2.6.24, but now in 2.6.27 it doesn't
[13:20] <waylandbill> I upgraded to intrepid recently and my IDE cd writer is missing. I thought maybe ide-scsi didn't load and maybe I could modprobe it, but the module isn't even there. What can I do to load the ide cd drive?
[13:20] <OxDeadC0de> that's him right there
[13:20] <waylandbill> that's me. :-)
[13:21] <Tyrath> thanks for the help before anyhow
[13:21] <Tyrath> catch you
[13:21] <djmrsmith> i need some help :-) i think im in the wrong channel though
[13:22] <gaben> hello from  HU
[13:22] <djmrsmith> i run xubuntu, i upgraded to 8.10 and now i lost my vpn settings and do not remember how to re configure to connect
[13:22] <djmrsmith> where can i find my old config?
[13:23] <savvas> punktalk: what happened exactly?
[13:23] <Ruge> hmmm
[13:23] <Ruge> no errors found
[13:23] <savvas> punktalk: what happened exactly?
[13:24] <waylandbill> I jumped in the channel just as someone was saying that it is loaded by default, which I assume means ide-scsi, but there's no ide-scsi.ko to load in my filesystem.
[13:24] <OxDeadC0de> they said ide-scsi was depricated and replaced so it was removed (I think that's what they said at least)
[13:25] <punktalk> with twhat?
[13:25] <punktalk> savvas: when?
[13:25] <asociacija> can anyone remind the link where to install 9500gt properly on hardy?
[13:25] <dob1> hi, why every time i start ubuntu i have to edit the network connection property? it doesn't save it?
[13:25] <savvas> punktalk: when you logged out
[13:25] <bdheeman> hi, friends!
[13:25] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:25] <savvas> punktalk: it showed the login screen or did it say anything?
[13:26] <bdheeman> anyone out there help me make my wireless connection up plz?
[13:26] <JonathanEllis> Im just creating a small 100MB dedicated boot partition. I have ubuntu and winxp dual booting on this machine. I intend to put GRUB on the boot partition. At least I guess thats where it should go. I assume its best to make the boot partition ext3 NOT NTFS. Or would ext2 be better?
[13:26] <punktalk> ahh. when i log back in, it gives me a messed up screen where its mega off-center but loops back on the other side. it says 'ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, something something driver"
[13:26] <Guest86393> Alguém Brasil:
[13:26] <Guest86393> Alguém do Brasil?
[13:26] <Ruge> Yo, i just checked the disc, no dramas, would i have to do anything to the VGA option
[13:26] <Pici> !br | Guest86393
[13:26] <punktalk> savvas: when i hit ctrl+alt+bkspce it gives the regular login screen, but still all offcenter and stuff. i could log on, but it was impossible to actually do anything. x-server fix, back here.
[13:27] <jayson_r> JonathanEllis: you can use ext2 for /boot - it doesn't need journaling
[13:27] <Guest86393> #ubuntu-br
[13:27] <djmrsmith> anybody know?
[13:27] <fosco_> Guest82961: type /join #ubuntu-br in your IRC program
[13:28] <savvas> punktalk: dude, that's normal :)
[13:28] <savvas> punktalk: you could login, right?
[13:28] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:28] <djmrsmith> upgraded to 8.10 and lost all my vpn settings... how i get them back?
[13:28] <ubd> how do ı change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:28] <punktalk> well.. yeah. but it was too hard to see anything, get anything done. i couldn't even check the driver state
[13:29] <bdheeman> hello
[13:29] <savvas> punktalk: execute this: gksu nvidia-settings
[13:30] <savvas> punktalk: do you see "X Server Display Configuration
[13:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m planning to learn flash....is it possible for me to learn in ubuntu...whatare the tools reuired
[13:30] <savvas> punktalk: do you see "X Server Display Configuration" in the menu?
[13:30] <DarkKnight> hey i m planning to learn flash....is it possible for me to learn in ubuntu...whatare the tools required
[13:30] <punktalk> !!!!! yes!!!!!!!!!
[13:30] <punktalk> savvas! ok wait... need to navigate this properly......
[13:30] <rdw200169_> DarkKnight: last thing i read, codeweavers cracked running macromedia flash in linux
[13:31] <savvas> punktalk: ok, click "detect displays"
[13:31] <rdw200169_> DarkKnight: regardless, you're gonna buy some software, it's proprietary stuff, that flash
[13:31] <ubd> how do ı change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:31] <savvas> punktalk: did that? :)
[13:31] <punktalk> savvas:      You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. (popup)
[13:31] <DarkKnight> rdw200169_; so its codeweaver...the open source..??
[13:31] <JonathanEllis> jayson_r: Thanks. What is journaling? And by the way, does the boot partition have to be mounted within ubuntu since doesnt ubuntu get loaded after boot?
[13:31] <tolis> guys anyone know how to install ventrilo?
[13:32] <ubd> how do aeeeeeeeeeee change the permissions of a usb drive
[13:32] <savvas> punktalk: hm.. ok close nvidia-settings
[13:32] <punktalk> k
[13:32] <Tyrath> hey just a thought. wubi is an exe file no?
[13:32] <savvas> Tyrath: yes
[13:32] <punktalk> savvas: i mean, i just hit ok. im just sitting at the regular x Server settings
[13:33] <Tyrath> in which case if I install that on a different partition, will that partition be operating under windows or linux?
[13:33] <tolis> how can i install ventrilo at linux?
[13:33] <James_UK> tolis you have to use WINE there is no Linux client
[13:33] <tolis> o ok thanks
[13:33] <savvas> punktalk: ok close nvidia-settings, press Quit and Quite and wait, I'll try something :)
[13:34] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:34] <punktalk> savvas: awesome =) thanks so much dude
[13:34] <Kartagis> what package do i need for X libraries?
[13:34] <natschil> hello
[13:35] <natschil> I have a problem with ubuntu : lspci doesn't show my wireless card, but lspci -H1 does
[13:35] <metrick> I now have only ubuntu! however my dvd burner will not show up,  rather nothing reads. and my computer takes it as unkown. is there anyway that I can scann the Drive and find the driver for it?
[13:35] <asociacija> hello.. i installed 9500gt "new" drivers from adept.. and it still shows pc is using vesa drivers.. any help?
[13:35] <savvas> punktalk: do this again: sudo nvidia-xconfig; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[13:36] <Kartagis> what package do i need for X libraries? xlibs?
[13:36] <Pici> !xlibs | Kartagis
[13:36] <punktalk> savvas: i just checked the hardware drivers, says nvidia is enabled and in use =)
[13:36] <fosco_> asociacija:  (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[13:36] <punktalk> im gonna test it, hang on
[13:36] <savvas> punktalk: very well
[13:36] <metrick> T_T cant find help anywhere with this one
[13:36] <tolis> how can i use wine to install ventrilo?
[13:36] <natschil> does anyone know the difference between lspci and lspci -H1
[13:37] <natschil> please?
[13:37] <JonathanEllis> Can I move an extended partition or once its written is it set in stone?
[13:37] <asociacija> thanks fosco_ i will try
[13:37] <Kartagis> thank you
[13:37] <fosco_> natschil:  -H1    Use direct hardware access via Intel configuration mechanism  1.
[13:37] <Pici> natschil: Have you read the lspci manpage? This option is explained.
[13:37] <fosco_> just read man lspci
[13:37] <sinan> how can i know the chip running on my wireless network card?
[13:37] <divine_> tolis, simply double click a .exe in ubuntu. make sure you have latest wine (1.1.8) by looking on winehq.org (select download then ubuntu and you see instructions how to configure your package manager to include updates to wine
[13:38] <Ruge> crud
[13:38] <Ruge> i still get the gfx problem
[13:38] <bazhang> sinan, pci or usb
[13:38] <ubuntu_> how do i install programs onto ubuntu
[13:38] <fosco_> sinan: lspci
[13:38] <punktalk> savvas: lol. it said i have no directx8/drivers, exactly what it said last time. i assume it still broken.... but it looks fixed!!!!!!!! D=
[13:38] <Ruge> i see 1 1/2 screens on my display
[13:38] <fosco_> ubuntu_: just run synaptic
[13:38] <sinan> bazhang: pci, but i can't use lspci :)
[13:38] <ubuntu_> whats that?
[13:38] <bazhang> sinan, why not
[13:38] <Ruge> and that "there was an error starting GN...."
[13:38] <zhaozhou> Is there an application to kinda paste ALL info about a screen? I.e. everything from resolution to horizontal sync?
[13:39] <Pici> !software | ubuntu_
[13:39] <ubuntu_> thank you
[13:39] <sinan> bazhang: i am in an embedded system, lspci doesn't exist ! :)
[13:39] <Ruge> should i take a picture of my screen?
[13:39] <Ruge> and show u guys?
[13:39] <Ruge> looks funny.
[13:39] <savvas> punktalk: highlight me if you need me
[13:40] <Trae> anyone know about Metacity?  I need to know how to make a window sticky where it won't resize.  (heh I'm playin World of Warcraft in a windowed mode and need to make sure I don't accidently resize the window)
[13:40] <Ruge> any takers? :)
[13:40] <Kartagis> ǃqtü
[13:40] <Kartagis> ǃqt
[13:40] <natschil> yes,  have read the manpage pici, but I do not understand why running lspci normally doesn't detect the wlan card Note: It was detected in hardy
[13:40] <Mu5> Need help unmountint dvd and giving proper uid/gid values , anyone familiar?
[13:41] <emorris> hi, in my grub boot menu, it has Debian blah blah kernel instead of Ubuntu, is there any way to change it back? Obviously i could just change it in menu.lst, but it would put it back after each kernel upgrade
[13:41] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[13:41] <savvas> punktalk: highlight me if you need me
[13:41] <punktalk> savvas: thanks for all the help man
[13:41] <Mu5> Does anyone know how to unmount dvd?
[13:41] <punktalk> im probably just unhelpable D= lol.
[13:41] <savvas> punktalk: it works? :)
[13:42] <emorris> zhaozhou: maybe xprop -root , although it might not quite be what you want
[13:42] <punktalk> savvas: nah =/
[13:42] <Kartagis> ǃqt3
[13:42] <natschil> is there a way to set lspci to use the -H1 option by default?
[13:42] <punktalk> savvas: man i just wanna play some Warcraft III......
[13:42] <Mu5> I just wanna play Wrath Of the Lich King!!!
[13:42] <fosco_> natschil: alias lspci="lspci -H1"
[13:42] <Ruge> anyone help?
[13:42] <Mu5> I am not able to install
[13:42] <savvas> punktalk: ok, do this again: sudo nvidia-xconfig; cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[13:42] <punktalk> mu5: WotLC looks tight
[13:43] <Mu5> I bought it , and i cant install on linux...
[13:43] <emorris> Ruge: what's the problem?
[13:43] <punktalk> savvas:    http://pastebin.com/f7a264c35
[13:43] <natschil> thx fosco, will try that
[13:44] <Kartagis> what's thw package for qt 3 header files?
[13:44] <Ruge> emorris: hey mate, i just burnt an image on Ubuntu, and ive booted it up on my old laptop, i got to the first screen but its all garbled, i see 1 1/2 screens on my display, and i get a box that i can see half of, saying "there was an error starting the GN.." (thats all i see), any hints?
[13:44] <natschil> thx fosco, but this doesn't work as I need root provileges to run lspci -H1
[13:44] <Mu5> Anyone familiar with unmounting dvd ... /unhide
[13:44] <fosco_> Kartagis: aptitude search qt3 | grep headers
[13:45] <savvas> punktalk: done it?
[13:45] <punktalk> i posted the link
[13:45] <punktalk> yes
[13:45] <emorris> Ruge: press ctrl+alt+f2, this should take you to a terminal, correct?
[13:45] <fosco_> natschil: you asked the way to do it, that's the way
[13:45] <savvas> damn internet
[13:45] <Kartagis> fosco_, nothing returned
[13:45] <Ruge> yep, i see the terminal
[13:45] <punktalk> savvas: thats right yeah?
[13:46] <fosco_> libqt3-headers
[13:46] <Mu5> well gonna go blow blizzard up now
[13:46] <natschil> thx, but I still have thw problem with linux not finding my wlan card
[13:46] <Ruge> this is the first time im ever using linux, so bear with me =)
[13:46] <savvas> punktalk: sorry, I got disconnected, give me the link
[13:46] <natschil> (Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02) by the way)
[13:46] <jaunty> hi
[13:46] <bdheeman> anyone out there who may help me make my wireless connection up please?
[13:46] <emorris> Ruge: ok, now type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    <--this will ask you a few questions, then attempt to reconfigure the GUI
[13:47] <jaunty> there used to be a doc in the wiki of how to upgrade alsa version, where is that?
[13:47] <punktalk> aight http://pastebin.com/f7a264c35
[13:47] <Ruge> emorris: its thinking..
[13:47] <jaunty> !alsa
[13:47] <savvas> punktalk: what's your default resolution?
[13:48] <Ruge> emorris: attempt to audodetect video hardware
[13:48] <punktalk> u good savvas?
[13:48] <gille> hej
[13:48] <punktalk> idk how to check the default, but it should be 1680x1020
[13:48] <DarkKnight> hey which software to use to learn flash
[13:48] <savvas> punktalk: what resolution you used to use? 1024x768 ?
[13:48] <savvas> ah ok
[13:49] <punktalk> when i used windows, 1680,1020. but it looks like its 1680 now, which is weird.
[13:49] <killerTAGG> hello
[13:49] <emorris> Ruge: yes
[13:49] <punktalk> savvas: idk what my res is right now, u know how to check?
[13:49] <killerTAGG> !list
[13:50] <savvas> punktalk: no, no need, I found it, wait please
[13:50] <Ruge> emorris: use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[13:50] <punktalk> savvas: oh aight i found it too lol
[13:50] <emorris> Ruge: yes
[13:51] <emorris> Ruge: do you have an unusual keyboard layout?
[13:51] <Ruge> emorris: its generic, ntohing fancy
[13:51] <Ruge> emorris: i blazed thru it, now im at a screen with X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default:
[13:52] <emorris> Ruge: what's it asking?
[13:52] <emorris> 1 sec
[13:52] <savvas> punktalk: try this: sudo wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m5134243b -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:52] <savvas> punktalk: tell me when it's done
[13:53] <Ruge> emorris: Configuring xserver-xorg  This option is recommended fo rexpreienced users only. Im most cases, all of these modules should be enabled.
[13:53] <punktalk> savvas: done
[13:53] <psynophile> is Flannel here?
[13:53] <emorris> Ruge: just accept the default, i guess
[13:54] <savvas> punktalk: ok now log out, press ctrl+alt+backspace and login back - don't go yet, wait I want to tell you something else
[13:54] <savvas> punktalk: if when you login, you have the same problem, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login from the linux console, type: sudo apt-get install irssi
[13:55] <bdheeman> may I have your attention please?
[13:55] <kamil> hello
[13:55] <punktalk> k
[13:55] <savvas> punktalk: it will install irssi for you, and irc client. you type: irssi and then: /connect irc.ubuntu.com and /join #ubuntu
[13:55] <Ruge> emorris: yep gone thru it, its gone back to thinking.. ill wait
[13:55] <punktalk> oh man i need to write that all down hahaha.
[13:55] <emorris> Ruge: what version of ubuntu you using?
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: a slightly older version, cuz i was lazy to download (and im using 2001 laptop)
[13:56] <gammy> Every time a user calls a process va crontab, the sh process becomes defunct. This is in intrepid. Has anyone experienced this?
[13:56] <savvas> punktalk: it's not that hard: 1) sudo apt-get install irssi 2) irssi 3) /connect irc.ubuntu.com 4) /join #ubuntu :)
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: yep done, im back to terminal
[13:56] <savvas> punktalk: install irssi now if you want
[13:56] <emorris> Ruge: any idea which one?
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: 7.04 FiestyFawn
[13:56] <emorris> Ruge: ok, now      sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:56] <Ruge> emorris: ill get updated version later, just testing out my laptop performance atm
[13:57] <emorris> Ruge: newer versions of ubuntu have better hardware support
[13:57] <Ruge> emorris: even if my hardware is from 2000/2001?
[13:57] <savvas> punktalk: ok now you may log out and do what said :) If I'm not here, execute: gksu nvidia-settings and try to correct your display
[13:57] <bazhang> Ruge, what video card
[13:57] <kamil> I have a problem with sound it is listed as a bug, somebody came up with a solution some time ago but I don't know exactly what should I do the solution is "...with "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1" set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (no other alsa option, no kernel option) I have success." anyone know what to do ??
[13:57] <emorris> Ruge: did you try that restart command?
[13:57] <punktalk> alright man, thanks so much
[13:58] <Ruge> bazhang: ATi RAGE Mobility, detected by FiestyFawn
[13:58] <Nirodh> Hi, I'm having problems with my new monitor, I can't set it to 75hz for some reason, can somebody help me please?
[13:58] <Ruge> hmmm
[13:58] <punktalk> savvas: youre a god. hope this works.
[13:58] <savvas> punktalk: if it's not in center, try change it from your monitor (there should be some buttons on your monitor to correct the width and height of the display
[13:58] <Kartagis> hello? do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
[13:58] <punktalk> indeed
[13:58] <Ruge> Starting GNOME Display Manager........ [fail]
[13:58] <adam7> Nirodh: is it an LCD?
[13:58] <savvas> punktalk: ok, go :)
[13:58] <punktalk> =) thanks man
[13:58] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes it is
[13:58] <joaopinto> kamil, you need to edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:58] <savvas> n/p :)
[13:59] <Kartagis> punktalk, did you tell me or someone else?
[13:59] <bia> ciao
[13:59] <kamil> :joaopinto : I know but how exactly ??
[13:59] <punktalk> ?
[13:59] <Ruge> emorris: looks like my GNOME Display Manager is failing
[13:59] <joaopinto> kamil, and add "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1"
[13:59] <bazhang> Ruge, you should try at least gutsy on that
[13:59] <punktalk>  someone else. thanks for everything savvas
 hello? do i need wpa_supplicant to be able to load wireless certificate into ubuntu?
 indeed
[13:59] <adam7> Nirodh: I suspect most LCDs only support up to 60Hz
[13:59] <Ruge> hmm
[13:59] <emorris> Ruge: what does it do/say?
[13:59] <kamil> joaopinto: no deleting no installing any files or smt like that?
[13:59] <bia> hello
[13:59] <joaopinto> kamil, gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:59] <adam7> Nirodh: why would you need more than that? they don't flicker like the CRTs do
[14:00] <craigbass1976> couple of quickies...  I need to make an instructional video.  Which app should I be gunning for? I want to be able to speed up the video a bit (like charlie chaplin movies) and insert subtitles.  I also need at least a stereo audio track for background music
[14:00] <joaopinto> kamil, it's about editing a text file and adding a line with the option
[14:00] <Ruge> emorris: i typed your command, "* Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ OK ]"  then  "* Starting GNOME Display Manager... [FAIL]"
[14:00] <kamil> joaopinto: if that's a;; that would be great
[14:00] <craigbass1976> The next question...  I post code on rafb.net.  Were would someone post a picture in the same manner?
[14:00] <Nirodh> adam7: This is flickering like wild when I watch anything fast-paced or scroll quickly
[14:01] <adam7> Nirodh: ah, that's probably because you have the desktop effects turned on
[14:01] <adam7> Nirodh: can you disable compiz-fusion?
[14:01] <dli> I followed pulseaudio howto, but no default sink found within pulseaudio manager, paman
[14:01] <osubuck> system> preferences> appearance, use no effects
[14:02] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes I've just disabled it, I'll try putting on a video and seeing what happens
[14:02] <osubuck> think that's what you're looking for
[14:02] <FloridaGuy> after i got metacity working...my themes work half a**.....panel and menu wont themes
[14:02] <slinx> hello
[14:02] <kamil> joaopinto: thanks I think now only one restart and hopefully everything will work..
[14:02] <adam7> !hi | slinx
[14:03] <slinx> im using kubuntu now when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04 it goes to busybox and wont install?
[14:03] <Ruge> emorris: any ideas?
[14:03] <bazhang> slinx, why not upgrade via the net
[14:03] <pawan> whats up
[14:03] <adam7> !offtopic
[14:03] <slinx> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 7.10?
[14:03] <Nirodh> adam7: Yes! It worked perfectly, thank you very much
[14:03] <bazhang> slinx, what version are you on
[14:04] <slinx> kubuntu 8.04
[14:04] <kamil> joaopinto: bye & thanks
[14:04] <bazhang> slinx, you mean 8.10?
[14:04] <slinx> yes my mistake
[14:04] <adam7> Nirodh: no problem :) it's too bad that the compiz doesn't play nice with videos. Everyone has that problem, I think
[14:04] <scientes> how do i grep a bunch of files?
[14:05] <Ruge> gahh damn ubuntu! if only i understood you!
[14:05] <bazhang> slinx, did you check the package manager?
[14:05] <emorris> Ruge: hmm, that's a pain. i know in intrepid, you can remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it will sort it out for you, but I think in your case you would have to edit that file by hand, which can be a bit of a pain. I'm not sure I can help you much more, but maybe someone else can. 7.04 is a very old release and not supported any more. As bazhang you really need gutsy or newer, but if you're going to download anything you may as well get intrep
[14:05] <emorris> id.
[14:05] <FloridaGuy> anyone here
[14:05] <slinx> for what
[14:05] <bazhang> err update manager
[14:05] <scientes> Ruge, ubuntu isnt hard to learn :)
[14:05] <scientes> Ruge, makes more sense than windows
[14:05] <RizR> adam7, Nirodh: I play vids fine with compiz. got emerald on as well.
[14:05] <Ruge> emorris: no dramas mate, ill get the latest copy off a mate and give it a go
[14:05] <emorris> Ruge: in intrepid it's much more likely to 'just work'
[14:05] <Nirodh> RizR: How'd you manage that?
[14:06] <adam7> RizR: what video card do you have? I know my ATI card hates videos
[14:06] <bazhang> Ruge, you may want to try the livecd first
[14:06] <Ruge> scientes: heh its good, today's the first time ive ever touched something related to linux
[14:06] <RizR> Nirodh: out of the box.
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: ati redeon x600
[14:06] <RizR> not a fancy one.
[14:06] <slinx> brb 2mins
[14:06] <sternocera> Hi all. I have a zebex USB barcode scanner that works under opensuse 10.3, but does not work under xubuntu 8.04. Anyone have any idea why that might be? Thanks.
[14:06] <adam7> RizR: using fglrx or the open source driver?
[14:06] <scientes> Ruge, but it is differnt :)
[14:06] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: do you want any output/logs from my box?
[14:06] <RizR> adam7: fglrx
[14:06] <scientes> how do i grep a folder of files for a line?
[14:06] <Ruge> bazhang: livecd.... ive got and old LiveCD on me heh
[14:07] <adam7> RizR: really? maybe you have to change the video display mode in the video player to get that to work?
[14:07] <Pretto> how to list services started on boot?
[14:07] <Ruge> btw how do i exit the terminal?
[14:07] <adam7> Ruge: type exit
[14:07] <RizR> adam7: nop. nada. It was a problem in emmmm 7.10. but since 8.04 its all well.
[14:07] <Ruge> damn old copy, goes back to terminal again
[14:07] <adam7> RizR: hm, you're just lucky then ;)
[14:08] <Ruge> maybe its time to ditch the 7.04 lol
[14:08] <RizR> adam7: :) may be. but gives me enough to brag my windows buddies
[14:09] <adam7> RizR: and to some of us :)
[14:09] <scientes> what should i do if my gedit preferances never stick between uses?
[14:09] <adam7> Does anyone have falcon working in Intrepid?
[14:09] <Ruge> rofl exit isnt working for me lmao
[14:09] <adam7> Ruge: try ctrl+d
[14:10] <Ruge> nopes, same result, back to terminal
[14:10] <RizR> adam7: :-) not intentional.
[14:10] <Ruge> maybe its cuz my GNOME thing is failing
[14:10] <mymini> id
[14:10] <adam7> RizR: I'll have to look into that sometime and see if I can duplicate your success
[14:11] <craigbass1976> couple of quickies...  I need to make an instructional video.  Which app should I be gunning for? I want to be able to speed up the video a bit (like charlie chaplin movies) and insert subtitles.  I also need at least a stereo audio track for background music
[14:11] <Pretto> is there a way to list services that  starts during boot time?
[14:11] <RizR> adam7: what card you're on?
[14:11] <slinx> ok so how i net install ubuntu 7.10 from kubuntu 8.10?
[14:11] <adam7> RizR: ATI 3850 w/ fglrx on intrepid
[14:11] <adam7> RizR: Can't work on it now, though :(
[14:12] <bazhang> slinx, you want to add gnome to kubuntu 8.10?
[14:12] <aaron_> how do I install cairo-dock in intrepid?
[14:12] <Ruge> yeah i dunno
[14:12] <Dr_willis> !msg ubottu  uuid
[14:12] <Ruge> think ill give up on fiestyfawn
[14:12] <bazhang> !blkid
[14:12] <TemulentAlexa> server
[14:12] <craigbass1976> Pretto, do a ps -ef and that will tell you everything that's running.  If you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 frmo the login screen (once you log in, there's more stuff running) you'll see.  Do a ps -ef > ~/running-processes.txt if you want to peruse it later.  Ctrl+Alt+F7 will get you back to the login screen
[14:13] <slinx> i want to get a linux which i can run compiz on without complications, kubuntu im using at moment is giving me headaches with compiz
[14:13] <J6dof> trying to install hsf modem driver in intrepid , but neither the deb package nor the source code work
[14:13] <J6dof> any solution ?
[14:13] <bazhang> slinx, what version are you on now of kubuntu
[14:13] <craigbass1976> slinx, is it kubuntu or your graphics card?
[14:13] <slinx> 8.10 32bit
[14:13] <bazhang> install ubuntu-desktop slinx
[14:13] <Pretto> craigbass1976, i just wanna list those services started during boot time... like the chkconfig on rpm distros
[14:13] <slinx> it might be my graphics card, i have ati
[14:14] <RizR> slinx: ubuntu (one with gnome version)
[14:14] <ghostlines> even if tls/ssl is used with postfix, does the initial connection still need to use port 25?
[14:14] <craigbass1976> Pretto, dunno then
[14:14] <e-frame> J6dof: i can install the hsf modem, but my sound get problem ( dell vostro 1400 )
[14:14] <slinx> is there a way to install ubuntu gnome version via net install?
[14:15] <Pretto> craigbass1976, thank you anyway
[14:15] <bazhang> slinx, yes
[14:15] <slinx> can i please have steps:D
[14:15] <bazhang> slinx, just install ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <slinx> ok how i install ubuntu desktop
[14:15] <ghostlines> my isp blocks outgoing port 25 connections, so i wanted to use tls/ssl that use other ports for the connection, but i'm not too sure if this can work
[14:15] <savvas> scientes: close gedit, and execute this: cd $HOME; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER .gnome2 .gconf
[14:15] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop slinx
[14:15] <savvas> scientes: run gedit again and see if it works
[14:15] <xmatrix> slinx, i believe wat bazhang is trying to explain to you is, open terminal, sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <J6dof> how can i install dell's conexant hsf driver in intrepid ?
[14:16] <scientes> ahh yesm, the sudo problem
[14:16] <bazhang> slinx, that is the package name.
[14:16] <Ruge> this is the error im getting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651136
[14:16] <natschil> hello
[14:16] <bazhang> slinx, open a terminal and type that
[14:16] <slinx> ok installing now
[14:16] <natschil> I have this problem with my broadcom wireless
[14:16] <MistrJ> hi how can i install j2me enviorment for ubuntu ?
[14:16] <natschil> lspci only detects it if I type sudo lspci -H1
[14:17] <bazhang> slinx, when it is done installing then logout and choose gnome from session (at login window)
[14:17] <natschil> I have a feeling this might be because of the new kernel
[14:17] <slinx> ok
[14:17] <kri> hi i have some dependency problems when trying to install transmission (i need libgtk2.0-0 and that needs libcups2 but i have libcupsys2). If i sudp apt-get remove libcupsys2 many programs dpending on that will be broken, what would i do?
[14:17] <slinx> thanks for help, tryed fixing like 9000 times:P
[14:17] <jangli> Hi. I just installed bacula and mysql on a new ubuntu 8.10, but bacula-dir doesn't start at boot... according to the log, it can't connect to mysql. starting it manually after boot works fine. according to ls /etc/rc2.d mysql should start before bacula-dir. what could be wrong?
[14:17] <bazhang> np :)
[14:18] <RizR> adam7: just checking the version of fglrx on my box. your card doesnt seem to be in the list of officially supported card.
[14:18] <RizR> adam7: dono much about it but seems strange.
[14:18] <savvas> scientes: if that doesn't do it, try removing the gedit configuration files: find $HOME -name "*gedit*"
[14:18] <scientes> it owkred thx
[14:18] <jimcooncat> jangli -- don't know, but maybe mysql takes a while to start and bacula's too fast
[14:19] <lianimator> is there a plugin to show Now Playing song in pidgin?
[14:19] <savvas> n/p :)
[14:19] <adam7> RizR: are you using the one that is in the restricted manager?
[14:19] <lianimator> musictracker no longer works.. "no PIDGIN" error while compiling
[14:19] <natschil> con somebody pease help?
[14:19] <Pretto> craigbass1976,  found, sysv-rc-conf package
[14:19] <adam7> lianimator: is there a pidgin-dev package or a purple-dev package? you might install them before compiling
[14:19] <RizR> adam7: yep. version: 2:8.543-0ubuntu4 and package name is xorg-driver-fglrx
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: installs couple of more packages with it.
[14:20] <scientes> where did the gui go for creating new keyrings other than my login one?
[14:20] <jangli> jimcooncat: is there a way to make bacula wait for mysql to start?
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: you're using Hardy, right?
[14:20] <RizR> intrepid
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: intrepid
[14:20] <adam7> scientes: it's called seahorse, should be in accessories
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: oh, so you have the same one I do then
[14:20] <adam7> hm
[14:20] <RizR> adam7: but upgraded from hady
[14:20] <adam7> RizR: so did I
[14:20] <ph8> i've got a vanilla intrepid install that can't play MKVs in xine - it can in VLC mind - any ideas what i need to install? I swear my old hardy install could
[14:21] <scientes> that option was removeed in intrepid though
[14:21] <scientes> adam7
[14:21] <adam7> RizR: my fglrx might be weird though, because I have installed versions that weren't in the Ubuntu repos
[14:21] <RizR> adam7: what your experiences have been like with open source driver?
[14:21] <adam7> RizR: I've used radeonhd, it works ok, but no 3d accel
[14:21] <e-frame> i found this http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/hsfmodem_<IP_ADDRESS>oem_i386.deb but when i install it, my sound get problem. the speakers works well, but the headphone output got no sound. any help?
[14:21] <jimcooncat> jangli, if you find the upstart piece that starts bacula, you could put a sleep command in there. Or you could use monit to start bacula up instead, and have monit check for a connection to mysql
[14:21] <scientes> oh it was just oobscured thx adam7
[14:21] <lianimator> adam7: installing pidgin-dev will install 59 new packages 20 MB to download, 79 MB more disk space.. does this look correct?
[14:21] <xmatrix> is there any features in ibex that is essential and would make a user switch?
[14:21] <xmatrix> from hardy
[14:21] <adam7> lianimator: I don't know, but probably.
[14:21] <gmaq> Any recommendations for Bluetooth Adaptors that work OOTB with Gutsy?
[14:21] <adam7> xmatrix: if you're happy with Hardy, no point in switching
[14:22] <bazhang> xmatrix, check the notes
[14:22] <bazhang> !notes
[14:22] <lianimator> adam7: worth a try.
[14:22] <adam7> lianimator: yep. Usually the -dev packages make the compilers happier
[14:23] <Ruge> okay my ubuntu looks fine on safe mode
[14:23] <scientes> can i encrypt my home directory after having installed?, i can easily move my files from and then back
[14:23] <adam7> !encrypt
[14:23] <jangli> jimcooncat: wouldn't sleep make the whole bootprocess stop for that time?
[14:23] <lianimator> does ubottu need a brain upgrade?
[14:23] <scientes> lol
[14:23] <bazhang> !truecrypt
[14:23] <adam7> bazhang: thanks :)
[14:24] <bazhang> np :)
[14:24] <RizR> adam7: cant think of something. putting this topic to sleep for now I guess :)
[14:24] <scientes> i know a out truecrypt its great, but for partition encrypton it seems like not the thing
[14:24] <Ruge> emorris: heh, the safe mode booting of Ubuntu looks perfect
[14:24] <Ruge> emorris: but there "was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon"
[14:25] <ubuntu_> hello?
[14:25] <b3ta> hi in ubuntu,how should i add services to default run level
[14:25] <adam7> !hi | ubuntu_
[14:25] <jimcooncat> jangli: you'd have to figure how to do it just for bacula. You could put it in the start portion of /etc/init.d/baculad (or whatever that's called)
[14:25] <adam7> b3ta: update-rc.d should do it
[14:25] <RizR> !runlevel |b2ta
[14:25] <RizR> !runlevel |b3ta
[14:25] <Ruge> hey
[14:25] <Ruge> could i be getting errors
[14:25] <RizR> !run-level |b3ta
[14:25] <Dr_willis> !upstart
[14:25] <Ruge> cuz im running ubuntu off the disc?
[14:26] <ubuntu_> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu; can anyone give me some help? Thanks a lot in advance
[14:26] <JonathanEllis> Hi. I am trying to find info on what /boot is for and failing. Can anyone help please?
[14:26] <savvas> scientes: you can use an encrypted ~/Private directory: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/23/encrypted-private-directory-in-ubuntu-810/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:26] <RizR> ubuntu_: in what stage do you need the help?
[14:26] <scientes> savvas that not what i want
[14:27] <jimcooncat> jangli: the monit test would be much smarter though; bigger learning curve of course
[14:27] <Dr_willis> JonathanD,  thasts where all your kernels and grub/menu files are normally kept.
[14:27] <ubuntu_> step 4 of 7, partitioning, there's a blank list (probably 'cause the hard disk is completely empty)
[14:27] <adam7> JonathanEllis: /boot is where the grub configuration file lives, and where the init images (not the right word) live
[14:28] <RizR> !partition
[14:28] <RizR> !partition | ubuntu_
[14:29] <jangli> jimcooncat: I'm just testing with a sleep in /etc/init.d/bacula-director .... but you're right, I would also prefer monit... so sleep to make it work quickly while learning to configure monit ;-)
[14:29] <JonathanEllis> So if I am dual booting with winxp. Is there an advantage in having a separate partition for /boot. I gather if I put another linux distro on then they shouldnt share /boot if that contains the kernel. So I guess a separate partition for GRUB which I make bootable would be the best bet and leave /boot on my / partition
[14:29] <jimcooncat> jangli: sure, I would think five second would be plenty, but you may have to play with it
[14:29] <JonathanEllis> Wish I could put the right punctuation in when I ask a question!
[14:30] <Ruge> anyone have any idea why GNOME cant acccess Daemon?
[14:30] <mibbot> i'm running a minimal, but have no sound. Have installed: alsa-base alsa-utils linux-sound-base
[14:30] <mibbot> any ideas?
[14:30] <ubuntu_> thanks, I'll try that, but I have to say, none of the buttons in the partition menu is working, I can only click one 'cancel' or 'back'
[14:30] <jangli> jimcooncat : testing with 50 at first, just to make sure ;-)
[14:30] <Nirodh> mibbot: Run alsa-mixer and make sure everything is unmuted
[14:31] <Nirodh> mibbot: m to unmute
[14:31] <Ruge> actually ill try tmrw
[14:31] <Ruge> thanks for your help all
[14:31] <mibbot> Nirodh: alsamixer gives me: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:32] <emorris> in my grub boot menu, it has Debian blah blah kernel instead of Ubuntu, is there any way to change it back? Obviously i could just change it in menu.lst, but it would put it back after each kernel upgrade
[14:32] <Nirodh> mibbot: Whoops sorry, I meant alsamixer not alsa-mixer
[14:33] <adam7> mibbot: try sudo alsamixer
[14:33] <adam7> mibbot: if that works, you probably need to add yourself to the audio group
[14:33] <chazco> Hi... just to confirm - is it safe to move a laptop which is in Ubuntu suspend mode?
[14:33] <mibbot> adam7: thanks, yes, sudo alsamixer works
[14:33] <jimcooncat> anyone know how to deal with changing ssh host keys simply? I'm testing remote installations and the SOMETHING NASTY warning keeps stalling me until I remove the bad key.
[14:33] <adam7> chazco: move? like pick up and take somewhere else? should be...
[14:34] <slinx> it installed everything then said unable to install some archives?
[14:34] <chazco> adam7 - Put into into a case and take it somewhere else... i imagine the HDD is switched off?
[14:34] <Pretto> anyone know if wubi replaces the bootloader?
[14:34] <slinx> unable to fetch*
[14:34] <vikkio> someone know how to put the network manager in the up panel??
[14:34] <adam7> chazco: put your ear next to it -- if you don't hear anything, it's off. But in general, suspend should shut down the HDD
[14:35] <jimcooncat> instead of dumping me out to edit known_hosts manually, I want to just say Yes to change the key
[14:35] <vikkio> someone know how to put the network manager in the up panel??
[14:35] <chazco> heh, the low-tech solution :) Thanks
[14:35] <Sact> vikkio: Right click the panel > add to panel
[14:35] <vikkio> is not there
[14:35] <adam7> chazco: that's how I always check :D
[14:35] <nootrope> any idea when the ubuntu repository will update django to 1.0?
[14:35] <mibbot> adam7: any ideas how to add to group from command line
[14:35] <unclemike> i had truble with metacity dying..now i got it working ..but themes arent working right?
[14:35] <vikkio> Sact: is not there the applet network manager
[14:36] <Sact> vikkio: Do you not mean network monitor? That should be there
[14:36] <vikkio> sact: yes...but isnt the same
[14:36] <adam7> mibbot: sudo vim /etc/group (probably not recommended) or use usermod
[14:36] <mmo|> Is the BBC content in totem ONLY audio? Or are there any videos?
[14:37] <Gnea> mibbot: sudo vigr
[14:37] <mmo|> I only get audio when I try any of it
[14:37] <vikkio> Sact: do you have msn?? i send you two screenshoot
[14:37] <Sact> vikkio: You could upload them to www.petaimg.com
[14:37] <vikkio> Sact: can we talk in pvt i hate this chat
[14:38] <Sact> vikkio: Sure
[14:38] <JonathanEllis> Sorry to ask the question again. I had to go away so couldnt see if there had been a response. If I am dual booting with winxp, is there any advantage in having a separate partition for /boot? I gather if I put another linux distro on then they shouldnt share /boot if that contains the kernel. So I guess a separate partition for GRUB which I make bootable would be the best bet and leave /boot on the same partition as /? Or would it be better to cr
[14:38] <adam7> JonathanEllis: /boot is where the grub configuration file lives, and where the init images (not the right word) live
[14:39] <unclemike> hello ! anyone out there...been trying to fix same problem sence last night
[14:39] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Yes I saw that answer, thanks. Hence my next question
[14:39] <James_UK> looking for a grub guru to help me boot windows xp from grub please... XP installed on SATA, Grub and Ubuntu on IDE2 Slave
[14:39] <adam7> JonathanEllis: oops, sorry, I can't read :)
[14:39] <serengeti> nootrope, django's already at 1.0 in intrepid
[14:39] <vikkio> Sact: answer me in pvt
[14:40] <adam7> JonathanEllis: one advantage is that /boot/grub/menu.lst will be shared among all distros
[14:40] <slacker_nl> does anyone know if it is possible to restrict a user so he can only access the pc via the console and not via ssh?
[14:41] <orly_owl> Is there a GIMPShop package for hardy somewhere?
[14:41] <slacker_nl> if so, how would one do this?
[14:41] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks. But wouldnt it be a bad thing for the kernels to be shared?
[14:41] <Gnea> slacker_nl: turn off or remove ssh-server
[14:41] <slacker_nl> Gnea: haha, not an option
[14:41] <unclemike> !metacity
[14:41] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I *think* (I'm by no means an expert) that each distro has a different kernel naming scheme
[14:42] <orly_owl> !GIMPShop
[14:42] <adam7> slacker_nl: poke around in /etc/ssh
[14:42] <slacker_nl> adam7: k
[14:42] <Vicky95> hi, i need a subseven for ubuntu but dont find in synantic
[14:42] <elefante_branco> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[14:42] <elefante_branco> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[14:42] <elefante_branco> This particular error is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive,
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often
[14:42] <elefante_branco>  available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk is
[14:42] <FloodBot3> elefante_branco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <sinan> how can i get the pci id of a device installed on my pc ?
[14:43] <James_UK> can anyone help with Dual booting XP please. XP installed on SATA, Ubuntu 8.10 installed on IDE2 Slave
[14:43] <Yuretsz> How can I make QT apps to looks native in Gnome?
[14:43] <Vicky95> where download a subseven for ubuntu hardy ??
[14:43] <unclemike> 1388 users and not no help
[14:43] <Gnea> !dualboot | James_UK
[14:44] <Gnea> !patience | unclemike
[14:44] <Yimpolo> unclemike: What's the problem? I just logged on
[14:44] <abortd> it looks like gdesklets is bulky anyone have any thoughts on performance after installed or?
[14:44] <nootrope> serengeti, thanks!
[14:44] <kri> hi i have some dependency problems when trying to install transmission (i need libgtk2.0-0 and that needs libcups2 but i have libcupsys2). If i sudp apt-get remove libcupsys2 many programs dpending on that will be broken, what would i do?
[14:44] <James_UK> Gnea i've been there and its still not any help to me :/ Grub doesnt seem to be able to boot XP
[14:44] <slowz> Vicky95, There is no "subseven" for linux period
[14:45] <unclemike> Yimpolo, last night metacity died got that fixed....now my themes work mhalf A** panel wont theme and menu's wont theme
[14:45] <Jethro1> good morning folks, anyone around to help a newb?
[14:45] <abortd> OMG where do i get sub7 for linux?!
[14:45] <slacker_nl> adam7: thnx, sshd_config DenyUsers directive
[14:45] <abortd> how about netbus or BO!\
[14:46] <nootrope> what's the least traumatic way to upgrade from Heron to Intrepid?
[14:46] <bombshelter13> Hey, does anyone know what I have to do to completely remove GFVS from my Ubuntu system without destroying Nautilus?
[14:46] <abortd> Jethro1: ask your question
[14:46] <Vicky95> where download a subseven for ubuntu hardy plz, i need
[14:46] <bazhang> Vicky95, what is subseven
[14:46] <Jethro1> i have an ATI radeon 7000 with support for multiple monitors, how can i get the second monitor working?
[14:46] <bombshelter13> Nautilus appears to depend on GVFS, which doesn't seem to make sense... I'm willing to compile things myself, I just neeed to know what.
[14:46] <prince_j1mmys> Vicky95: this is the ubuntu help channel. you don't need "subseven"
[14:46] <James_UK> Subseven is a script kiddy hacking tool
[14:47] <abortd> bazhang: lol a windows script kiddy tool
[14:47] <Gnea> James_UK: well that doesn't tell me anything. what *have* you tried so far, exactly?
[14:47] <prince_j1mmys> Vicky95: so go away.
[14:47] <bazhang> Vicky95, not here
[14:47] <tarelerulz> I have been using Abobe flash player  alot .  every cool chat room program and anything cool on the net use it ,but it ways runs up my cpu or crash or something not good.  Is there any tutorial how to to get it working right.
[14:47] <bazhang> abortd, thanks
[14:47] <Vicky95> ok
[14:47] <Thomsen> Having sound problems here, wine and the testsound in the sound panel are very crappy/noisy, also the sounds cut after 1/2 secs
[14:47] <Thomsen> other sounds work fine :/
[14:47] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: OK. That would make sense. In that case I guess I should make a boot partition. Although http://preview.tinyurl.com/6a8rvy says                       "A Separate /boot partition is not very good for people who want to boot more than one Linux operating system because iit is tricky to get more than one Linux to share the same Separate /boot partition peacefully. For that, you need a 'Dedicated GRUB Partition', which contains only GRUB files and
[14:47] <Thomsen> alsa/oss/pulse, it doesn't matter, it stays bad
[14:47] <Gnea> James_UK: please keep the chat to the channel
[14:47] <abortd> np
[14:47] <Gnea> !pm | James_UK
[14:48] <lianimator> compile musictracker for pidgin says xmms2 is required to build xmms2 support. can I build without xmms2 support? also it says PCRE library is required. How do I install that?
[14:48] <Jethro1> did see my question?
[14:48] <Carkus> does anyone know of an easy way to completely reinstall all the sound modules, etc? i think ive broken alsa, and now i cant get it working again..
[14:48] <James_UK> i have XP installed on SATA, ubuntu and grub installed on IDE2Slave.... no matter what (hd1,0) etc i try windows will not boot from grub
[14:49] <FrancisN> I know this isn't strictly an Ubuntu problem, but does anyone know how to use, say, dd to repair a USB flash drive?  I managed to mess it up so badly it can't read the partition table anymore
[14:49] <unclemike> that nice the one person that goes to help.....after 12 hrs..quits
[14:49] <Gnea> FrancisN: you might get some good results with sfdisk
[14:49] <slowz> lianimator, Ive never complied pidgin but you can have a look at ./configure --help and see if there is a flag to disable xmms2 support
[14:50] <Jethro1> i have an ATI radeon 7000 and with windows i had multiple monitors but after the switch i cant get ny secondary monitor to work, anyone know how to get multi monitor support with ubuntu??
[14:50] <yyyyyy> okay, does anyone has problem using compiz + google earth in ubuntu 8.10???
[14:50] <Gnea> unclemike: so what's your problem?
[14:50] <bombshelter13> Anyone know where I can get a packaged NON-GFVS enabled version of Nautilus for Ubuntu Hardy?
[14:50] <FrancisN> Gnea: What exactly would I do?  I just want to erase everything on the drive, hopefully make it usable again
[14:51] <yyyyyy> everytime when my compiz is on, google earth program seems to be flickering...
[14:51] <FrancisN> I'm looking through the man page, but it doesn't seemt o have what I need
[14:51] <unclemike> Gnea, metacity died last night got it fixed..now my themes wont theme the panel and menu
[14:51] <Gnea> unclemike: just the themes aren't showing up? did you do a distro upgrade? what changed?
[14:51] <Gnea> unclemike: i mean, what changed prior to metacity croaking?
[14:51] <rbd__> hey guys, what happened to libxml-dev in 8.10?
[14:51] <unclemike> Gnea, nothing
[14:52] <RizR> !dualhead |Jethro1
[14:52] <jangli> jimcooncat: even 50s sleep didn't work... very strange. maybe a permissions problem? when /etc/rc2.d/S92bacula-dir is started at boot, what user is it running? when i start it manually, I user "sudo /etc/rc2.d/S92bacula-dir start", so root user
[14:52] <rbd__> and is there a page that shows the new and depreaciated packages from 8.04->8.10?
[14:52] <Gnea> FrancisN: oh, you can dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/device_name_of_your_usb
[14:52] <Gnea> FrancisN: make sure to sudo that
[14:52] <FrancisN> Gnea: I think I've found my problem.  sfdisk just crashes whenever I try to do something, saying that my partitions extend past the physical end of the drive
[14:52] <Jethro1> thanks so much bot
[14:53] <Gnea> unclemike: well, not 'nothing' ever causes something like that to happen - something happened and it probably happened behind the scenes
[14:53] <adam7> JonathanEllis: Maybe that would work better for what you want
[14:53] <unclemike> Gnea, i upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 to 8.04 to 8.10
[14:53] <hellboy3> does any one know how to use gtkpod to put videos on my ipod
[14:53] <Gnea> unclemike: under what timeframe?
[14:53] <syock> I want to use a virtual desktop on a Linux OS without admin rights. What are the possible options? I saw on Wikipedia that you don't need root to use QEMU.
[14:53] <Jethro1> !xinerama
[14:54] <unclemike> Gnea, all sence yesterday..sence 8.04 and 8.10 cd's wouldent install
[14:54] <Gnea> !sudo | syock
[14:54] <jimcooncat> jangli: like I said, I'm not familiar with your software. Most daemons start as root and drop priviledges. Bacula maybe not? ps probably has a flag to find out which user it's running as.
[14:54] <JonathanEllis> !DualHead
[14:54] <syock> Gnea: I don't have admin rights. I can't sudo
[14:54] <Gnea> unclemike: i see. have you tried making a new user account for the 8.10? does metacity croak there too?
[14:54] <jangli> jimcooncat: flag?
[14:54] <Whitor> Hi. I'm having a weird problem. After installing Intrepid I can only connect to one wireless access point. (coincidentally or not, its the one I was connected to while upgrading) I have Xirrus Wi-Fi monitor installes ... and I can 'see' other networks ... my computer just won't connect to them.  My settings are identicle (except for ssid and wep key) so I am fairly certain its not a settings issue. any ideas ?
[14:55] <JonathanEllis> Adam7: Sorry to repeat part of the question, but: My /boot directory is 105MB so would a 200MB partition for /boot allow enough room for expansion? How big should the GRUB partition be?
[14:55] <Whitor> installed*
[14:55] <unclemike> Gnea, 8.10 was when metacity died
[14:55] <jimcooncat> jangli: flag == command line option. I meant anyway
[14:55] <Gnea> unclemike: i understand. try making a new account, login with it, and see if metacity is still being a punk
[14:56] <Xeph> Hi there, i'm trying to backup some DVDs i filmed at vacation, using k9copy. Ripping and shrinking works fine, but there's no *.iso after all. Does anyone have an idea how to solve that?
[14:56] <AbortD> does intrepid use a different partitioning tool than gparted or do you just have to apt-get it
[14:56] <AbortD> well i know you have to apt-get it
[14:57] <bazhang> unclemike, what theme
[14:57] <FrancisN> Gnea: New problem, I can't do anything with the drive, sfdisk crashes saying unrecognized partition table
[14:57] <syock> Do you need to be root to use QEMU in the first place?
[14:57] <FrancisN> How would I make a new partition table?
[14:57] <Gnea> bazhang: i'm guessing that his local info from the older version is interferring with the newer version - he did hop 4 distro versions in 1 day
[14:58] <RizR> JonathanEllis: 105??? that's the biggest I've heard it to be :-) In my opinion 200M should be fine. others?
[14:58] <jimcooncat> jangli: "sudo ps -Al | grep bacula" should show you the UID in the third column
[14:58] <Gnea> FrancisN: did you do the dd thing?
[14:58] <bazhang> Gnea, agreed; just wanted to see if it worked here
[14:58] <FrancisN> yeah, I did the dd thing, it finished
[14:58] <FrancisN> Gnea: now it's telling me there's no partition table whenever I try to do something with it
[14:58] <Gnea> FrancisN: okay, forget sfdisk then. use fdisk on it and create a partition
[14:58] <unclemike> bazhang, deepgreen...over glossed...blue-joy
[14:59] <FrancisN> Gnea: I've figured out how to make one, but what sort of table should I make? msdos, aix, etc.?
[14:59] <Gnea> FrancisN: right, that's what dd did too - totally zero'd out the drive
[14:59] <JonathanEllis> RizR: And how big should the grub partition be? I will make that the bootable partition so it will just have the MBR and the grub executable files
[14:59] <alexander>  ~pastebin
[14:59] <rayb0t> anybody here play quake wars? i'm having network issues with it :(
[14:59] <Gnea> FrancisN: how big is it?
[15:00] <FrancisN> Gnea: 2gb flash
[15:00] <RizR> JonathanEllis: 200M is big enough.
[15:00] <Gnea> FrancisN: i'd stick with a fat32 format then - do you have qparted installed?
[15:00] <disposable> i have downloaded an intrepid iso. how do i put it on a usb drive so that it's installable from there? (my laptop does not have a cd drive, and i don't have windows) simply point me at a howto or something please.
[15:01] <AbortD> i swear gparted is acting stupid
[15:01] <FrancisN> I'm planning on using fat32, but it's not asking me for partition type, it's asking me for partition *table* type
[15:01] <bazhang> !usb | disposable
[15:01] <FrancisN> Gnea: nevermind, I'll just use msdos partition table type, and see what happens.
[15:01] <FrancisN> Thanks for the help
[15:01] <bazhang> disposable, also check out unetbootin
[15:01] <Gnea> FrancisN: ah ok - try 6 fat16 for the partition type :)
[15:01] <AbortD> bazhang: do you have any idea why gparted is graying out all the functions and not letting me create a partition?
[15:02] <FrancisN> Gnea: Well, I have to use fat32, I'm trying to make a ubuntu bootable usb
[15:02] <FrancisN> Thanks!
[15:02] <bazhang> AbortD, are you trying to edit a mounted partition?
[15:02] <RizR> AbortD: permissions? did you run it like sudo gparted?
[15:02] <joaopinto> actually, gksudo gparted
[15:02] <AbortD> RizR: yes
[15:02] <AbortD> im trying to edit and add partitions bazhang
[15:03] <bazhang> AbortD, you didnt answer my question though
[15:03] <AbortD> well no
[15:03] <AbortD> not first but if i dont edit the partition to allow free space would it blank out the new partition button?
[15:03] <jimcooncat> Why does "StrictHostKeyChecking ask" not work in /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[15:03] <bazhang> AbortD, use the livecd or the gparted livecd
[15:04] <atarinox> Can anybody tell me...I'm trying to find some themes for Intrepid on gnome-look.org. How do I tell what category of theme would work? GTK, GDM, Compiz? I know Intrepid has Compiz installed by default, but are those the only themes I can choose from?
[15:04] <kamil> hi guys
[15:04] <JonathanEllis> /msg NickServ help commands
[15:04] <unclemike> unclemike, they still dont work
[15:04] <AbortD> bazhang: my cdrom no longer wants to open :P
[15:04] <adam7> JonathanEllis: I'm not exactly sure, to be honest. I need to go though, but I'm sure someone else here knows.
[15:04] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks
[15:05] <hellboy3> are there any softwares like imovie for ubuntu
[15:05] <Gnea> unclemike: any luck?
[15:05] <jangli> jimcooncat: hmmm.... i'll check monit tonight at home I think... thx for your help
[15:05] <ShdwShinobi> Hi! My audio stops working after about a day and I can't get it to come back without a restart. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[15:05] <unclemike> Gnea, nope
[15:05] <raheem> !video
[15:05] <JonathanEllis> Rizr: 200M for Grub and 200M for /boot?
[15:05] <Gnea> unclemike: what about changing sessions?
[15:05] <hellboy3> are there any softwares like imovie or like  movie maker  for ubuntu
[15:06] <pronoy> can anyone guide me how to get a daemon icon for a good media player like totem or rythmbox ???
[15:06] <jimcooncat> jangli -- no problem. Should be easy for you to set up just for this, but you might get carried away
[15:06] <newbie> ciao
[15:06] <TheBlasphemer> Is there a way to start a program from SSH (seeing the console output there), but having the windows open on the desktop ?
[15:07] <RizR> AbordD: what does eject command says
[15:07] <unclemike> Gnea, whats that going to do...im already in the new user
[15:07] <rrittenhouse> Can you share an ssh key between two different machines like I can a PGP key? I'm guessing no.
[15:07] <ikonia> rrittenhouse sure
[15:07] <ikonia> RizR: I use one key to access 200+ machines
[15:07] <JonathanEllis> /msg NickServ help
[15:07] <RizR> JonathanEllis: grub is usually very small. few MB should be more than enough. you don't usually need a separate partitiion for it. just stick it in /boot
[15:08] <pronoy> can anyone guide me how to get a daemon icon for a good media player like totem or rythmbox ???
[15:08] <rrittenhouse> ikonia: I have a laptop with an ssh key that I want to access different servers with but without generating another key I wondered if on my Desktop I would have to generate another ssh key to get into the same servers
[15:08] <disposable> bazhang: thank you
[15:08] <bazhang> disposable, your welcome
[15:08] <ikonia> RizR: no, just put your public key on as many servers as you want, as long as you keep the private key your fine
[15:08] <ikonia> rrittenhouse no, just put your public key on as many servers as
[15:08] <ikonia> you want, as long as you keep the private key your fine
[15:09] <BulBulRed> i run a ssh server at home right now
[15:09] <rrittenhouse> ikonia: Ok. Thx
[15:09] <jderrick> Regarding Intrepid, NetworkManager is now supposed to start before you login to Gnome, yet my default install does not behave this way. I have to login before my static IP is setup. Is there something I need to do for it to start at the login screen other than manually edit /etc/network/interfaces ?
[15:09] <JonathanEllis> rizr: Thanks. Its just that http://preview.tinyurl.com/6a8rvy seems to recommend a separate partition for grub. I am a bit confused whyit says a /boot partition might not be a good idea
[15:09] <BulBulRed> i work with three keys
[15:09] <BulBulRed> and a crontab script
[15:09] <JonathanEllis> adam7: Thanks for all your help
[15:09] <BulBulRed> so i can shedule when someone has access
[15:09] <syock> Is there a virtual machine that you can run as guest user? One that you can download, unpack and run
[15:09] <BulBulRed> for instance my work pc doesnt need access during the night, because i am not there...
[15:10] <ikonia> BulBulRed do you have a question ?
[15:10] <BulBulRed> and i do encourage working with a passphrase
[15:10] <BulBulRed> no ikonia, sorry
[15:10] <BulBulRed> i know: other channels for that
[15:12] <RizR> JonathanEllis: because /boot (without grub) is where kernel images and init files live. if you share it among different distros it'll contan kernels from all of them.
[15:12] <RizR> JonathanEllis: seems a big messy.
[15:13] <spree> Something odd is going on when I first start the computer: The GUI for the login screen is off-center on the monitor by about 2 inches. If I auto-adjust my monitor, the video centers itself. What should I do? NVidia 6100 amd64 Intrepid
[15:13] <JonathanEllis> rizr: So I am looking for a sensible place for grub to live because at the moment its in my winxp partition which I dont feel comfortable with. Then someone else recommended having a separate partition for /boot for resilience
[15:14] <ikonia> JonathanEllis grub lices ont he mbr
[15:14] <ikonia> lives
[15:14] <akahige> got a question about samba permissions... I had a shared directory on my desktop that is no longer shared, and won't let me as a user re-share it.  I had moved /var onto a different partition, and everything seems to be working, but then I discovered this... can anyone help me troubleshoot...?
[15:15] <spree> akahige: #samba
[15:15] <RizR> JonathanEllis: sorry. someone else might be able to help.
[15:15] <akahige> spree: thanks.  I'm wondering if there aren't probs with my having copied /var.  thoughts on that?
[15:16] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: So if I just put the MBR on the dedicated /boot partition then I am done, yes?
[15:16] <ikonia> JonathanEllis the mbr is the master boot record - it's on the boot sector of the disk, it's nothing to do with partitions or file systems
[15:16] <qlaiaqu> are there have chinese?
[15:16] <ikonia> !cn > qlaiaqu
[15:17] <kkady32> hello,who cann help me about webcam vimicro zc0303 -use gspca driver,pls mess privat me
[15:17] <komputes> does ubuntu have a USB protocol analyzer in its repositories?
[15:17] <atax> Hi all, where do i change my IP-Address / Gateway in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:18] <ikonia> kkady32 I'm sure someone will respond in channel
[15:18] <ikonia> atax: open the networking configuration tool from system -> preferences
[15:18] <ferronica> how to connect remote using internat IP address
[15:18] <spree> akahige: i don't know about samba, ask #samba
[15:18] <JonathanEllis> ikonia: Now I am confused. My winxp partition is labelled with a boot flag in GParted
[15:18] <komputes> atax: you click on the network manager icon, two computers in the top right of the panel
[15:18] <babo> Has anyone else had problems using dyndns as a dynamic DNS service. Mine works on/off ...
[15:18] <ikonia> JonathanEllis that doesn't matter
[15:18] <ikonia> ignore the flags
[15:18] <ikonia> JonathanEllis: ignroe teh flags
[15:18] <komputes> atax: sorry, right click > edit connections
[15:18] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm  a very good guide for you
[15:19] <ikonia> babo that service isnothing to do with ubuntu
[15:19] <kkady32> ikonia:ok
[15:19] <zhaozhou> atax, komputes, there not two computers if you're using wireless
[15:19] <kkady32> hello,who cann help me about webcam vimicro zc0303 -use gspca driver?that work in 8.04 but not in 8.01
[15:19] <kkady32> 8.10
[15:19] <komputes> zhaozhou: i'm afraid i don't understand
[15:20] <atax> komputes, ikonia : I made change there before, i change from DHCP to static-ip adresses, .. my mashine simply ignores what i enter in there! Any idea?
[15:20] <atax> changes
[15:20] <chadeldridge> When i start I am only getting a desktop and no login screen .. please help
[15:20] <ikonia> atax how do you know your machine ignores what you enter there ?
[15:20] <qlaiaqu> thanks for you message
[15:20] <zhaozhou> komputes, if you're using wireless, and are not connected via a TP network cable, then the icon changes. (:
[15:20] <komputes> zhaozhou: yes, the icon changes
[15:21] <spree> atarinox: assuming it's the first network card, (remove []'s): sudo ifconfig eth0 inet [ipaddress] netmask [subnet]
[15:21] <atax> ikonia, komputes I try to go over a new gateway to the internet, and via tracepath i can see that the old gateway is still beeing used!
[15:21] <JonathanEllis> ikonia and n8tuser: Thanks
[15:21] <chadeldridge> When i start I am only getting a desktop and no login screen .. please help
[15:21] <komputes> atax: i think you may need to set other parameters like DNS servers
[15:21] <ikonia> atax a gateway you'll have to re-run /etc/init.d/networking stop/start
[15:22] <spree> atarinox then to set your gateway type sudo route add default gw [ip adress] eth0
[15:22] <ikonia> Vinceman your nick is not Vinceman - thats owned by someone else, pelase stop trying to use it
[15:22] <FWP-> yo
[15:22] <komputes> atax: not just address, mask, gateway
[15:22] <chr12is05> hi all
[15:23] <spree> atax: then type sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[15:23] <Vinceman> ikonia?
[15:23] <atax> komputes, ikonia : I almosst certain I did a /networking restart but to be on the safe side ill try again
[15:23] <komputes> atax: a good way to test this, if you type <IP_ADDRESS> in firefox's address bar, do you get google?
[15:23] <Vinceman> that was me! it was always me!
[15:23] <atax> spree, : will do, thx
[15:23] <spree> atax: also to set your DNS servers edit /etc/resolv.conf
[15:23] <ikonia> Vinceman: you keep changing nick between Vinceman and guest**** so either identify to sort your nick out, or stop using it
[15:23] <chr12is05> anyone having problems connecting to wep encrypted wireless n/w on hardy?
[15:23] <Vinceman> I am identified now
[15:23] <komputes> spree: atax: or set them in NetworkManager
[15:24] <atax> komputes, I know, thx
[15:24] <noiz> gnubien> noiz: ok, ask in #ubuntu if this kernel: 2.6.25-2-386   is the kernel version that ubuntu 8.10 uses
[15:24] <spree> komputes there you go, assuming he's not using ubuntu server addition without a GUI
[15:24] <noiz> somone answere that? :D
[15:24] <ikonia> noiz it's not
[15:24] <noiz> oh god
[15:24] <noiz> nowonder it not playng any sound -.-
[15:25] <Dr_willis> Linux cowbuntu 2.6.27-7-generic #1
[15:25] <noiz> brb going to the alsa channel
[15:25] <komputes> spree: sorry, i might have missed the sentence where he said that
[15:25] <IcyPolecat> Mac address ranges and bridged interfaces across cards from different vendors. Are the any guidelines as to how to generate the address or do you think it safe to just randomly generate one
[15:25] <noiz> gnubien> noiz: ok, ask in #ubuntu how to upgrade your kernel to the ubuntu 8.10 kernel version
[15:26] <ikonia> noiz please show me "lsb_release -a"
[15:26] <spree> atax: anyway here's some useful docs for you http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-ubutnu-set-default-gateway-ipaddress/
[15:26] <noiz> wich part of it ikonia?
[15:26] <ikonia> noiz the version
[15:26] <kri> noone in #transmission is willing to tell me how to install transmisison 1.3.4 and if i apt-get with the respositories 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ubuntu hardy main' and 'deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bortis/ubuntu hardy main' it installs 1.4 ... anyone?
[15:27] <atax> spree, : thanks, is that already for ubuntu 810, or the version before that?
[15:27] <chadeldridge> Can someone please help me .. i have no login prompt in X
[15:27] <spree> atax: it works in a lot of different types of linux
[15:27] <noiz> noiz@nOiz1337box:~$ uname -r
[15:27] <noiz> 2.6.25-2-386
[15:27] <noiz> this?
[15:27] <FloodBot3> noiz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <ikonia> noiz no - did I say uname -r ?
[15:27] <noiz> oh a
[15:27] <ikonia> noiz: I asked for the output of lsb_release -a
[15:27] <DanielK00000> Hi
[15:28] <noiz> No LSB modules are available.
[15:28] <noiz> that dosnt sound good :O
[15:28] <ikonia> noiz your not using ubuntu
[15:28] <noiz> yes i am LOL!!!
[15:28] <noiz> Description:	Ubuntu 8.10
[15:28] <ikonia> noiz cat /etc/lsb_release
[15:28] <noiz> cat: /etc/lsb_release: No such file or directory
[15:28] <noiz> i have a ubuntu cd -.-
[15:29] <sharperguy> Anyone know a decent tool for drawing entity/relationship diagrams?
[15:29] <aba-> dia
[15:29] <DanielK00000> Something is up with my SD memory card for my camera. It was working fine then all of a sudden it stopped working in my Kodak camera. I tried it in other brands of camera and it worked fine, but I tried it in the same brand camera, Kodak, and none of them read the card. Anyone have this problem before?
[15:29] <raheem> interesting
[15:29] <noiz> lol so ikonia whats up whith this -.-
[15:29] <ikonia> do sudo apt-get update
[15:30] <noiz> it was alll working SOOO well when i had 8.04 LTS
[15:30] <narcoclepsy> the 8.1 update fixed one of my main gripes about Ubuntu I am so pleased :-)
[15:30] <yedday> hey all
[15:30] <noiz> It did bad to my sound :P
[15:30] <ikonia> noiz: stop talking randomly and listen to what people are asking you to do to help resolve this
[15:31] <noiz> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[15:31] <noiz> i lold
[15:31] <ikonia> noiz sudo apt-get update
[15:31] <yedday> tell me guys, why is it so hard to make an application, that can read AND append notes to pdf files? -> scribus freezes all the time, pdfedit is totally userunfriendly, pdf x-change view over wine has issues in saving the files...
[15:31] <raheem> !attitude
[15:31] <noiz> oooh
[15:31] <noiz> doing em now :D
[15:31] <noiz> and its done :P
[15:31] <spree> atax: by the way i found this guide indespinsible, particularly chapters 2-4 http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[15:31] <churl> i finally turned off "save last session" and now firefox wont load pages/ip's/bookmarks/history  it's just a white page   on a related note, ktorrent stopped working as well
[15:31] <ikonia> noiz sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:32]  * yedday wishes an application that can read AND append notes/highlight sections to a pdf file!
[15:32] <noiz> oh
[15:32] <Dr_willis> yedday,  that foxit pdf viewer - had some editor  software from the company also.  not sure if that has a linux port like the reader does...
[15:33] <noiz> ikonia possible that it will help my problems out?
[15:33] <James_UK> i have XP installed on SATA, ubuntu and grub installed on IDE2Slave.... no matter what (hd1,0) etc i try windows will not boot from grub, can anyone help?
[15:33] <ikonia> noiz I don't know - that will bring you up to date
[15:33] <raheem> James_UK: should'nt it be sda
[15:34] <yedday> Dr_willis: no wine programs anymore for me
[15:34] <Dr_willis> raheem,  not in grub speak
[15:34] <raheem> oh, i c
[15:34] <noiz> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> noiz: it fixed my sound??
[15:34] <noiz> and it ended
[15:34] <noiz> wait tryng
[15:34] <Dr_willis> yedday,  foxit reader has a native linux reader.. it MIGHT have a native linux editor also
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> now i can play sound asynchronously from more than one program at a time through the same sound card
[15:34] <James_UK> grub makes no distinction between sda and hda :/ this is where i get confused
[15:34] <noiz>  nope when i press "test" it still says a error
[15:34] <narcoclepsy> noiz: but it worked before?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> James_UK,   grub enumerates drives differently..  then linux does.. it also starts counting at 0, you did try hd0,0 ?
[15:35] <noiz> when i had 8.04 LTS yes
[15:35] <ikonia> noiz you will need to reboot after the updates
[15:35] <noiz> at 8.10 NO
[15:35] <yedday> Dr_willis: Foxit PDF Editor, which allows you to modify content of a PDF file, is non-free.