[00:06] <papyrus> anyone have any suggestions as to why openvpn will not be logging to syslog?
[00:12] <shuaizi> 有人知道在控制台下编写c语言的时候，会自动提示下一个符号，比如：“（”输出之后，会自动补齐“）”
[00:13] <shuaizi> 有人在嘛？
[00:13] <shuaizi> is anybody here?
[00:13] <ssfdre38> use english as this is the english channel
[00:13] <Johnny_Linux> for english press #1
[00:14] <sloantothebone_> Hi shuaizi
[00:23] <Guest19824> Hello, how can I tell if a command requires sudo?
[00:23] <ssfdre38> it will tell you if it requires sudo
[00:24] <Guest19824> Thanks
[00:24] <Bashing-om> Guest19824: If the command is going to act on /home, don't; If it is going to act on a system file, do .
[00:24] <Guest19824> Well, I want to use swappoff -a
[00:24] <Guest19824> I put the command in, but it gave no indication it did anything
[00:25] <Guest19824> No errors or anything
[00:25] <jamesd> Guest19824: that command will change your life.... wait till you learn  swapon that will improve your life
[00:26] <Guest19824> I am working in a live machine trying to move a sensitive file over. I was told to use swapoff -a to prevent it using swap
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Guest19824: That above is a system call, do use 'sudo' . In linux when a command completes successfully there is no return . The system just does as it is told and no back talk .
[00:26] <Guest19824> Bashing-om, I didn't use sudo, just swapoff -a and it gave no back talk...
[00:26] <Guest19824> Does that mean it worked?
[00:27] <shuaizi> To make a good read of code,how can I change .bashrc that can auto plus TAB when needed?
[00:27] <shuaizi> how
[00:27] <shuaizi> how?
[00:27] <Guest19824> Or does it give no back talk if it also doesn't work?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> Guest19824: Humm .. I would assume it did work. But I had aslo expected to require 'sudo' .
[00:28] <Guest19824> Odd.
[00:28] <Guest19824> Maybe when it's live, I am sudo?
[00:28] <nrmph> Guest19824: erors out here without sudo
[00:28] <shuaizi> is there any body can help me solve it?
[00:28] <Bashing-om> Guest19824: And yes, if the command does not work, the system will tell you "something' .
[00:29] <Guest19824> Alright, thanks
[00:29] <nrmph> yes your are super user in live
[00:29] <shuaizi> To make a good read of code,how can I change .bashrc that can auto plus TAB when needed?
[00:29] <jamesd> Guest19824: do you really think anyone is going to be checkout your swap devices for random blocks of your special file? not to mention the small chance a file being sent over a link will be swapped out is pretty small
[00:29] <al2o3-cr> shuaizi: explain better
[00:29] <Guest19824> Jamesd, true. I'm just paranoid. :P
[00:30] <shuaizi> help
[00:30] <jamesd> help comes to those that help them selves.
[00:30] <shuaizi> my english
[00:30] <shuaizi> is
[00:30] <shuaizi> ...........
[00:30] <nrmph> mmm generic platitudes
[00:30] <al2o3-cr> shuaizi: as i said explain the context in more detail
[00:31] <jamesd> auto-completion should be one by default in bash...
[00:31] <shuaizi> ok
[00:31] <shuaizi> thx
[00:32] <Malgorath> Is 128G enough HDD space for ubuntu if I'm just going to use it for web development?
[00:32] <al2o3-cr> shuaizi: so thats solved your issue, pfft...
[00:33] <jamesd> Malgorath: possibly... but would seem a little tight if you are working with a large code base... and multiple versions of code active
[00:33] <jamesd> also depends on your stack tools and ide
[00:33] <Malgorath> jamesd: php/nginx/mysql setup
[00:33] <al2o3-cr> Malgorath: plenty
[00:34] <Bashing-om> Malgorath: My mess-about installs are 30 gigs, with sym links to data partitions.
[00:34] <jamesd> should be fine...  you can probably install that on a 10GB box...
[00:34] <lester_> Good evening
[00:34] <Malgorath> I have a 2TB drive via usb3 also for storage
[00:35] <Malgorath> Guess I just have to figure out how to install 15.04 without killing my windows 8 install on the main drive
[00:35] <bodhi_zazen> Last I looked you could install Ubuntu Server on a 5 Gb partition, beyond that, how much data do you have ?
[00:35] <bodhi_zazen> In general, I tend to go with a 10 Gb minimum
[00:35] <jamesd> Malgorath: install virtualbox or vmware viewer, create a vm with 10GB storage and 2GB of ram if you want to go overboard.
[00:36] <lester_> I installed postfix but I never got the dialogue tochoose the type of email account, such as "internet" etc.....nor did I get to select the FQDN or user name. How do I completely ininstall what I did and start over?
[00:36] <lester_> uninstall and start over
[00:36] <mfaroukg> hi
[00:36] <mfaroukg> hi I have ip routing issue, I want to ping an in subnet and I think I am missing some routes or filter
[00:37] <Guest19824> Thanks, bye.
[00:38] <al2o3-cr> gueriLLaPunK|MBP: nice hostname :)
[00:38] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> Thanks al2o3-cr :)
[00:39] <mfaroukg> who is good in webmin?
[00:40] <mfaroukg> I need to add nat filter to forward ports
[00:40] <lester_> Who knows about Postfix?
[00:41] <ssfdre38> Malgorath, is it that you are trying to do with ubuntu, are you trying to use it as a dev enviornent or production
[00:41] <Malgorath> ssfdre38 Dev enviro
[00:41] <mfaroukg> I use ssmtp istead of postfix :) lester_
[00:42] <Malgorath> I'm just going to install a virtualbox  and gimp around with that for a bit to start
[00:42] <ssfdre38> that is what i was going to recommand cause if you are using a pre-installed windows 8 computer you might remove the system restore partition
[00:43] <ssfdre38> that is what im using with 2 *ubuntu installs, a debian install and 2 window servers installs
[00:45] <OerHeks> mfaroukg, webmin is depreciated on debian/ubuntu
[00:45] <OerHeks> !webmin
[00:46] <mfaroukg> OerHeks, I need to add iptable to allow some port forward
[00:46] <lester_> Anyone know how to install postfix mail server/
[00:46] <mfaroukg> it is so confusing to me
[00:48] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[00:48] <ssfdre38> lester_, there is a page on the ubuntu help that shows you at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html
[00:49] <lester_> Thanks, but I have s pecific question about postfix.
[00:49] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: It works strangely
[00:50] <ssfdre38> then say what that question then just how to install postfix
[00:50] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: can I show you ?
[00:50] <rypervenche> You may.
[00:51] <lester_> I followed the instructions to install postfix, but I never got the dialogue to select the type of email server to install or to name my FQDN or user name. How do I go back and do that?
[00:51] <ssfdre38> lester_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[00:52] <lester_> Thanks, I'll try that.
[00:53] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: when I try to forward port 80 from local ip in the local LAN (<IP_ADDRESS>) to the WAN IP 192.168.1.X:XXXX it doesn't work
[00:53] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: it can't see the local LAN
[00:54] <silverhom> hey all just a quick question when using shotwell to set more then one picture as background wallpaper slideshow should it look laggy when it switch pictures?
[00:54] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: Can you try to explain a bit better what your ultimate goal is and what you are trying to do?
[00:55] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: there is a device(IPcam) connected to local DHCP and I want to see it from outside but I can't
[00:56] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: Can your router not port forward for you?
[00:57] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: the router is fine but I have another LAN port with local DHCP
[00:57] <pokergod> I have dual-screen setup, is there a way to have the second launcher only show the apps open on that window?
[00:58] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: So you have a local server that is running DHCP on the machine itself?
[00:58] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: YES
[00:58] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: With a different WAP IP?
[00:58] <rypervenche> WAN*
[00:58] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: YES
[00:58] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: Ok, then you will need to set up masquerading.
[00:59] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: what is that ?
[00:59] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: https://gist.github.com/kimus/9315140 or http://www.kintona.com/ip-forwarding-and-masquerading-in-linux/ may help
[01:00] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: I use default iptables without ufw . is this fine ?
[01:00] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: That is fine. Let me find a guide for that then.
[01:01] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
[01:02] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:04] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: 15.04
[01:05] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: the local DHCP is from chilli
[01:05] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: really confusing
[01:06] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: ops sorry the server ubuntu is 14.10
[01:06] <rypervenche> mfaroukg: You'll want iptables-persistent installed as well if you don't already have it.
[01:06] <rypervenche> "the local DHCP is from chilli" I don't follow.
[01:07] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: yes coova-chilli
[01:07] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: it creates local IPs for the end users
[01:08] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: I use IP cam as end users and I can't see them in the server neither outside :(
[01:17] <billy_ran_away> Anyone really familiar with GPT partitions? Like why they make get messed up when a BIOS tries to boot from them? Or how to fix that?
[01:17] <silverhom> GPT is for UEFI computers
[01:18] <silverhom> if you format it as MBR im sure it works better
[01:18] <silverhom> depends if you do a UEFI install or not
[01:20] <Bashing-om> billy_ran_away: A good explanationof th difference between GPT and MBR partitioning; and what is : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/ .
[01:20] <billy_ran_away> Bashing-om: This is what I'm seeing... http://pastebin.com/TSx0rYWR http://pastebin.com/A66PvCzv
[01:21] <silverhom> it can be abit of a headache sometimes
[01:21] <rypervenche> billy_ran_away: You can boot from them if you're using GRUB2, but you'll need a special partition.
[01:22] <billy_ran_away> rypervenche: not trying to boot from them, got two drives (of 4) in a RAID 5 array that GPT says is messed up
[01:22] <billy_ran_away> I'm pretty sure this happened when the BIOS tried to boot from them, I knew this because at first it was only one of them
[01:24] <billy_ran_away> I think if I could just fix the GPT partition table it work
[01:26] <Bashing-om> billy_ran_away: "/dev/sde1   2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>  2.7T Linux RAID" can not help ya much in a raid recovery situation .
[01:29] <billy_ran_away> Bashing-om: Well once I get the partition table fixed it would...
[01:31] <Bashing-om> billy_ran_away: One has to be carefull here with raid, raid's partitioning table is not the same same as that of a hard disk partition table.
[01:32] <billy_ran_away> Bashing-om: Oh yea? I think I screwed one of my two chances already...
[01:33] <Bashing-om> billy_ran_away: Several frequent this channel with good experience with raid . patience and see who pops up that can help .
[01:34] <billy_ran_away> Bashing-om: I'm debating just starting a new one fresh...
[01:34] <stef1a> i'm trying to install skype on a 64-bit ubuntu 15.04 machine from the software center, but i get an error stating that the installation cannot proceed because there are unmet dependencies. help?
[01:35] <silverhom> stef1a open a terminal
[01:35] <silverhom> write sudo apt-get -f install
[01:35] <silverhom> that should fix the dependencies
[01:35] <billy_ran_away> The only thing of like real significance is some old mp3s...
[01:36] <stef1a> silverhom: will do that in a minute; just let the software updater run, so sudo is locked, i think
[01:36] <Bashing-om> billy_ran_away: The nuclear solution always works. But with patience you learn more fixing the fault .
[01:36] <silverhom> or if its not installed yet at all type apt-get install skype
[01:36] <silverhom> :)
[01:36] <billy_ran_away> Bashing-om: that's a good point
[01:36] <stef1a> silverhom: it's not, and that doesn't work (will give an exact error message in a minute)
[01:37] <silverhom> what did you do?
[01:37] <silverhom> apt-get install skype?
[01:38] <stef1a> yes
[01:39] <ssfdre38> put sudo apt-get install skype
[01:39] <silverhom> do sudo apt-get -f install  after that
[01:39] <silverhom> and not skype after install only "install"
[01:39] <silverhom> tell what happens
[01:39] <silverhom> :)
[01:40] <stef1a> ok, here http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7wANWYEE
[01:40] <kelvinella> hi how to install network printer without PPD?
[01:40] <nmatrix9> can some explain to me what the hell happened to Chromium?
[01:40] <stef1a> silverhom: sudo apt-get -f install does nothing.
[01:41] <nmatrix9> something called ephemeral has totall fubared my settings and turned on my microphone
[01:41] <stef1a> silverhom: (0 upgraded, 0 removed, etc.)
[01:41] <silverhom> thats very weird
[01:41] <nmatrix9> It happened after a update
[01:41] <silverhom> i just installed skype myself actually
[01:41] <stef1a> silverhom: yes indeed
[01:41] <silverhom> only with apt-get install skype without any problems
[01:41] <silverhom> on ubuntu 15.04 64
[01:42] <stef1a> silverhom: okay; anyone know how to fix this, or should i post to the forums? i've tried removing all skype-related packages
[01:43] <silverhom> i have actually no idea seems like a real problem like something really broke
[01:43] <silverhom> or something
[01:44] <mfaroukg> rypervenche: thanks
[01:45] <ssfdre38> stef1a, see if you can install skype-bin with sudo apt-get install skype-bin cause that is what is missing for you to get skype working on your computer
[01:45] <DoYouKnow> Ubuntu: system problem detected. Me: Clicks report problem. Ubuntu: This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed. Error('Incorrect padding',)
[01:45] <Bashing-om> stef1a: What teturns ' apt-cache policy skype-bin ' ?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> returns*
[01:46] <BitFire> hello!
[01:47] <stef1a> ssfdre38: cannot
[01:48] <stef1a> Bashing-om: installed none, candidate none, empty version table
[01:49] <ssfdre38> how about just try and get skype from skype.com and see if that .deb works and i would recommand use the term to install it with sudo dpkg -i pkg-name.deb
[01:49] <ssfdre38> that is the route i go all the time and it works for me all the time
[01:51] <stef1a> ssfdre38: dpkg: error processing archive skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386 (3).deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[01:51] <stef1a> Errors were encountered while processing: skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386 (3).deb
[01:51] <ssfdre38> get the 64 bit package
[01:51] <ssfdre38> you have the 32 bit package
[01:51] <stef1a> this is the multiarch
[01:52] <ssfdre38> not what the error is saying. your disk can be a multarch but your os is 64bit
[01:53] <stef1a> you mean from here? http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[01:53] <stef1a> what is the right download link?
[01:54] <Ben64> !skype | stef1a
[01:55] <ssfdre38> stef1a, yes but use this http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64
[01:56] <stef1a> Ben64: it looks like it's working!!
[01:58] <stef1a> okay, it installed...
[01:58] <ssfdre38> well there you go your all set
[01:58] <stef1a> yup. should have just gone to the Ubuntu site. ah well! thanks guys!
[02:09] <marco22> a recently bought headphone only plays sound on the left channel. I had another that played sound just fine. How can i fix this?
[02:12] <pokergod> I have dual-screen setup, is there a way to have the second launcher only show the apps open on that window?
[02:12] <pokergod> it shows everything on both laucnhers
[02:12] <pokergod> launchers
[02:21] <MannyLNJ> I'm looking for a FOSS backup program with GUI that will let me backup local and remote Windows based systems to a Ubuntu system
[02:22] <nmatrix9> Anyone here know about the TPP?
[02:22] <MannyLNJ> nmatrix9, Trans Pacific Partnership?
[02:23] <nmatrix9> MannyLNJ, yeah
[02:23] <MannyLNJ> nmatrix9, What do you want to know?
[02:23] <nmatrix9> MannyLNJ, It seems like something out of a dystopian sci-fi horror movie
[02:24] <MannyLNJ> nmatrix9, funny from someone with matrix in their nic
[02:24] <nmatrix9> MannyLNJ, touche
[02:25] <MannyLNJ> nmatrix9, But it does worry me how if it passes businesses can override politics
[02:25] <nmatrix9> MannyLNJ, from what I understand and from what I've read basically transnational corporations can essentially override the sovereignty of the participating nations.
[02:25] <nmatrix9> e.g. the federal, local, state laws.
[02:30] <MannyLNJ> nmatrix9, Yes I agree.
[02:38] <FelixFire619> how can i get a list of users and there home directorys at command prompt?
[02:44] <notaeon> FelixFire619: some stuff http://askubuntu.com/questions/410244/a-command-to-list-all-users-and-how-to-add-delete-modify-users
[02:49] <jorge> hi
[03:01] <Seven_Six_Two> FelixFire619, cat /etc/passwd
[03:01] <FelixFire619> thanks Seven_Six_Two
[03:02] <docmur> If I have a headless server, is there a way to push a notification down to a windows client and have it show up on the desktop like an notify-send action
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> FelixFire619, even better,     cut -d: -f1,6 /etc/passwd
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> FelixFire619, the -d: sets : as the field delimiter, -f sets the fields to grab.
[03:06] <Seven_Six_Two> FelixFire619, to invert that selection, and print out all of the fields except 1 and 6, put   --complement     between the 6 and the /
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, can you code at all?
[03:10] <docmur> yes, but was hoping to not have to code a solution, but realizing that might be my only soulution
[03:10] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, yeah. growl is what I've seen so far.
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> are they on the same lan?
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, where is the notification coming from? bash script?
[03:13] <docmur> It would be coming from a php script actually
[03:14] <Guest84296> nice
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, are you already running apache?
[03:14] <docmur> lighttp
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, you could either create/destroy an empty (but served) file, and monitor for its presence using a free windows file monitor utility. some will give customized alerts.
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, or you could serve a file that contains the alert. maybe one of the utilities could read the txt, but once you have a file, you can just use whatever alert windows provides.
[03:17] <docmur> I could alway write a quick C# program to listen over an open protcol and use the integrated windows notifcation system, but was hoping to not have to do that
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, of course not. that's why i suggested creating a file and running an off-the-shelf utility.
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, https://www.raymond.cc/blog/3-portable-tools-monitor-files-folders-changes/
[03:19] <Seven_Six_Two> docmur, the first one can either give an alert, or run a batch file, from which you could run a custom alert.
[03:20] <Seven_Six_Two> saves you the network programming.
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm assuming the windows server has access to lighttpd
[03:22] <Seven_Six_Two> wow. slow night tonight..
[03:22] <docmur> Well all the windows computers connect up to Linux server so yes, they have access to the lightttpd
[03:23] <Anthaas> Anyone here a debian expert? I could really do with some help right now :(
[03:23] <Anthaas> Im desperate - I'll be in #debian
[03:23] <somsip> Anthaas: ask in #debian. This is ubuntu support
[03:29] <raphael-lee> how to sync my iphone with itunes in ubunut?any solution,please
[03:29] <somsip> !iphone | raphael-lee
[03:31] <raphael-lee> actually I do not want to sync music，I want to use iTunes to recovery my iOS
[03:45] <montroy> can i install ubuntu from linux mint 17.1 without a disc or usb?
[03:47] <leonic> how do i erase from terminal a incomplete upgrade _+
[03:49] <nrmph> leonic: The terminal is the messenger, how about some context.
[03:49] <leonic> i was trying to install wine
[03:50] <leonic> and it dint not work and it damage  the apt
[03:50] <nrmph> leonic: Wine from the ubnutu repos or a 3rd party?
[03:50] <leonic> ubuntu
[03:51] <nrmph> leonic: Run sudo apt-get -f install and pastebin all of it if it errors.
[03:51] <leonic> but apt is working now but all that incomplete upgrade of the system is ocping space
[03:51] <leonic> and i don't want to reboot
[03:52] <nrmph> leonic: Ah, well I wil help when not hog-tied, best of luck.
[03:53] <leonic> i am in a live sesion and just downloaded a iso  if i reboot  well  the iso is gone
[03:56] <erkburgles> i have been trying to gain functionality of my trackpad for my dell inspiron 3541i with ubuntu 15.0.4, i went here :http://askubuntu.com/questions/527793/clickpad-not-working-on-dell-inspiron-13-7000-running-ubuntu-14-04 followed everything, waited hours for a new build and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS FIXED
[03:58] <leonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11808140/ here is the force install errors
[04:01] <nrmph> erkburgles: Have not followed you completely found this though as an option. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201403-14859/
[04:02] <erkburgles> leonic what is that?
[04:08] <erkburgles> holy shit how the fuck do i get the fucking trackpad to work
[04:08] <nrmph> please remember this is a world wide family channel
[04:09] <nrmph> erkburgles: Install the certified release
[04:09] <erkburgles> how
[04:09] <nrmph> erkburgles: Read the link I gave you.
[04:10] <nrmph> I would try it out anyway live.
[04:10] <erkburgles> im at my wits end, spent the entire day trying to get this trackpad to work, can you spoonfeed me the answer please
[04:11] <nrmph> erkburgles: This is the link it has a download, there were factory images, was this ever one? http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201403-14859/
[04:12] <erkburgles> i did what everything listed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201403-14859/
[04:12] <erkburgles> damnit thats your link hold on
[04:12] <nrmph> erkburgles: You have 15.04 or 14.04?
[04:12] <erkburgles> 15.04
[04:13] <erkburgles> im about to go insane
[04:13] <nrmph> erkburgles: My link says it probably wont run, you have to use 14.04 it looks like.
[04:14] <erkburgles> what can i type in the CL to get 14.04 to install and run like right now
[04:14] <nrmph> erkburgles: You can't
[04:14] <erkburgles> ....
[04:15] <erkburgles> why is this so freaking hard, what the hell is making this so hard
[04:16] <erkburgles> ok what can i type in the CL to get bittorrent
[04:16] <nrmph> erkburgles: I found that in in about 2 min, without looking for certified, knowing there was ubuntu certification. gotta have the google foo and like respect the channel.
[04:17] <erkburgles> ubuntu certification?
[04:17] <erkburgles> i can barely get anything done with just the keyboard and no knowledge of linux
[04:18] <erkburgles> what does "knowing there was ubuntu certification" mean?
[04:19] <destinydriven> erkburgles, use qbittorrent
[04:19] <bjrohan> last week I updated from 14.04 to 15.04. Since then, my wifi connection with my built-in radio is deplorable, however my external usb works great. Anyone know how I can get my internal one back to normal
[04:19] <erkburgles> so just download 14.04 with qbittorrent?
[04:20] <erkburgles> is there no option to download directly from the official site?
[04:20] <erkburgles> why did whoever nsomething say that I can't download 14.04 from command line?
[04:21] <histo> erkburgles: it's on the official site
[04:21] <erkburgles> ok so then I obviously can download it from the command line
[04:22] <erkburgles> can anyone provide me the command to do that, i am going nuts here
[04:22] <histo> erkburgles: wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.2/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[04:23] <erkburgles> and then the command to install that?
[04:23] <erkburgles> ty btw
[04:23] <erkburgles> i tried that command and it says 404 error
[04:25] <histo> erkburgles: well that link is live.
[04:25] <histo> erkburgles: How do you want to install it?
[04:31] <PingBad> help
[04:31] <PingBad> i forgot how to get to that window with volume control that lets you go above 100%
[04:31] <erkburgles> what do you mean how do i want to install it?
[04:32] <erkburgles> i want to install it any way possible??
[04:32] <erkburgles> i want my trackpad to work, i want an os i can use right now
[04:33] <Rave1> PingBad,  alsamixer in terminal possibly
[04:33] <PingBad> i can't get to the ubuntu sound settings
[04:34] <PingBad> looks like this http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/files/2012/04/sound-settings-ui2.png
[04:34] <histo> erkburgles: someone answered you http://askubuntu.com/questions/527793/clickpad-not-working-on-dell-inspiron-13-7000-running-ubuntu-14-04
[04:34] <histo> Rave1: it's a pulse thing
[04:35] <erkburgles> i read that and followed everything and absolutely nothing, that was what i opened with on here
[04:35] <histo> Rave1: double click the volume icon
[04:35] <histo> erkburgles: did you blacklist the module?
[04:35] <erkburgles> no, it even says to remove the blacklist
[04:35] <Rave1> histo i am not acually using ubuntu or a debian based system now
[04:36] <histo> Rave1: Then you are in the wrong room
[04:36] <histo> erkburgles: yeah after he updated to the latest kernel
[04:36] <erkburgles> which i did
[04:37] <histo> erkburgles: so you either blacklist the module or run a newer kernel that has proper drivers
[04:37] <erkburgles> i did
[04:37] <histo> It would have been nice if he noted which kernel was working
[04:37] <Rave1> no i wasnt asking for help i was suggesting a user look a t alsamixer
[04:37] <histo> Rave1: sorry
[04:37] <rafi> Witam. Jest tu ktoś z Polski. Ja jestem tu nowy nie wiem o co kaman. Ale mam pytania. Ktos mi pomoże?
[04:37] <histo> PingBad: double click the volume icon or right click and go to settings
[04:37] <histo> !en | rafi
[04:38] <erkburgles> i spent hours waiting for the source and installed the .deb at the end
[04:39] <histo> erkburgles: huh?
[04:40] <thomedy> okay if i am in a pickle over permissions is this the room for that nonsense
[04:40] <thomedy> i have my apache server configured for user thomedy and group www-data
[04:40] <thomedy> my directory is the same
[04:40] <thomedy> thomedy:www-data
[04:40] <erkburgles> i did everything listed on the link you just sent, how about that does that compute
[04:40] <histo> erkburgles: are you running ubuntu or mint?
[04:40] <erkburgles> ubuntu
[04:40] <thomedy> my perms are everything right now 777
[04:41] <thomedy> yet when i open apache i dont see my directory and i dont have the contents in it
[04:41] <histo> erkburgles: what is the output of uname -a
[04:41] <thomedy> i can get to it from command line
[04:41] <thomedy> but i cant see the files from my localhost
[04:41] <thomedy> this feels  like a perms issue because when i go to my error log it says client denied or something
[04:41] <begonia> what
[04:41] <histo> thomedy: I believe you have to enable file listings in the apache config
[04:42] <histo> or site config
[04:42] <erkburgles> linux erkburgles-insipiron3451 3.19
[04:42] <thomedy> [Wed Jul 01 23:23:26.496005 2015] [access_compat:error] [AH01797: client denied by server configuration: /opt/lampp/htdocs/www/private_files/
[04:42] <thomedy> okay let me see
[04:42] <histo> thomedy: https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DirectoryListings
[04:42] <erkburgles> something generic #21 ubuntu
[04:43] <erkburgles> UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 GNU
[04:44] <erkburgles> maybe its just back to windows for me
[04:44] <histo> thomedy: is this just a temporary thing?
[04:44] <histo> erkburgles: the something part is important
[04:44] <thomedy> well its pretty important to me
[04:45] <erkburgles> its obscured by this screen, using just a keyboard i cant see the terminal
[04:45] <histo> thomedy: I'm asking because something like python -m http.server   would work
[04:45] <thomedy> thank you
[04:45] <histo> erkburgles: uname -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:45] <thomedy> i will have to look into that
[04:45] <histo> erkburgles: that will give you link
[04:45] <thomedy> but yet its pretty important
[04:45] <thomedy> in fact i think its awesome
[04:45] <histo> thomedy: well if i'ts more permanent then use apache and set your directory listing option
[04:45] <pupil> hello
[04:45] <thomedy> i am building a way for people to openly collaborate on anything digital from movies to video games
[04:45] <erkburgles> can you write that again
[04:46] <erkburgles> i cant scroll up
[04:46] <histo> erkburgles: uname -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:46] <thomedy> from anywhere in the world
[04:46] <histo> erkburgles: that should output a link for you to share here.
[04:47] <erkburgles> http://termbin.com/0nup
[04:47] <histo> erkburgles: did you reboot after installing the newer kernel?
[04:47] <erkburgles> yes
[04:48] <erkburgles> all it did for me was give me worse graphics and an error or two
[04:48] <histo> erkburgles: well 3.19 is not the latest, so not sure what you are doing.
[04:48] <erkburgles> i just followed the post
[04:49] <histo> !info linux-image trusty
[04:49] <erkburgles> what is that
[04:49] <histo> erkburgles: just trying to check something
[04:49] <erkburgles> ok
[04:50] <histo> erkburgles: What directions were you following exactly for your kernel upgrade?
[04:50] <erkburgles> see the link you sent me?
[04:50] <erkburgles> everything there
[04:52] <histo> erkburgles: well I don't see anything there about downloading kernel 3.19
[04:53] <erkburgles> the linux mint link
[04:53] <erkburgles> below the trusteddarkness link
[04:53] <thomedy> http.conf is an apache question not hereright
[04:54] <histo> thomedy: should be in #httpd
[04:54] <thomedy> okay thank you
[04:55] <histo> erkburgles: I have no idea what you are talking about anymore. the word trusted isn't on any of the pages i'm looking at
[04:55] <erkburgles> omg ok see the link you sent me
[04:55] <erkburgles> scroll down
[04:55] <histo> erkburgles: either way It doesn't sound as if the kernel you installed is new enough.  Or you didn't blacklist the modules properly with the stock kernel.
[04:55] <erkburgles> there is a link that starts with trusteddarkness
[04:56] <histo> erkburgles: Yeah that's about blacklisting a module
[04:56] <erkburgles> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=131433
[04:57] <histo> erkburgles: that link is about installing a kernel in linux mint
[04:57] <erkburgles> ok so why do I still have ubuntu after installing that kernel?
[04:57] <histo> erkburgles: huh?
[04:57] <__DiCe__> ??????????????/
[04:57] <Ben64> uh... kernel is not distro
[04:57] <histo> erkburgles: you didn't install mint. Just a kernel from kernel.org
[04:57] <erkburgles> ok.......
[04:58] <histo> allegedly
[04:58] <javnut> what's the commandline way of changing the default torrent client?
[04:58] <__DiCe__> distro=car ,kernel=engine/carcomputer
[04:59] <histo> javnut: using xdg-mime?
[04:59] <erkburgles> i updated the kernel to get the right drivers RIGHT??>::?
[04:59] <histo> erkburgles: but you're running some 3.19-generic kernel now anyways so Not sure what you are trying to accomplish anymore.
[04:59] <histo> erkburgles: I wasn't with you looking over your shoulders.
[04:59] <erkburgles> GET THE TRACKPAD TO WORK!!!!!!
[05:00] <histo> erkburgles: cat /etc/issue
[05:00] <histo> What does that output?
[05:00] <Ben64> erkburgles: so why not try a *new* kernel instead of some weird mint stuff
[05:01] <erkburgles> ben64 i will do whatever the hell i have to to get the trackpad to work
[05:01] <histo> erkburgles: he's running a vivid kernel aparently
[05:01] <javnut> histo: I'll check it out
[05:02] <histo> erkburgles: then just edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the line blacklist i2c-hid
[05:02] <erkburgles> i have been GIMPING ALONG with the keyboard for the entire day following random advice from people on this channel, i just want the trackpad to work, ive been at this for 15 hours
[05:02] <histo> erkburgles: and reboot
[05:02] <erkburgles> will you type that again please
[05:03] <histo> erkburgles: You need to edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  and put the line blacklist i2c-hid  in there and reboot
[05:04] <erkburgles> so i would type edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf in terminal?
[05:04] <histo> erkburgles: Do you have a desktop system?
[05:05] <McGuyver48> topic?
[05:05] <histo> erkburgles: I mean a Graphical user interface.
[05:05] <histo> McGuyver48: ubuntu
[05:05] <erkburgles> no, i have no trackpad, i cant point and click anything
[05:05] <erkburgles> i guess i have one technically
[05:06] <histo> erkburgles: press alt+F2  and type in gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:06] <erkburgles> you mean go into tty
[05:06] <erkburgles> have to ad fn to that for it to work but ok
[05:06] <Ben64> no
[05:06] <histo> erkburgles: well in tty you can type in sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:06] <Ben64> alt+f2 brings up a "run" dialog
[05:06] <erkburgles> ok
[05:07] <erkburgles> well for me its lowering the volume
[05:07] <histo> erkburgles: well switch to tty and use sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:07] <__DiCe__> ctrl-atl-f2
[05:07] <vm> is there anything active like hotwire shell that sort of merges python and sh?
[05:08] <histo> erkburgles: ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to desktop
[05:10] <histo> vm: maybe ask in #python
[05:11] <erkburgles> i cant paste that into tty
[05:11] <erkburgles> how can i paste it
[05:11] <__DiCe__> ctrl-shift-v
[05:11] <erkburgles> i tried
[05:11] <histo> erkburgles: ctrl+shift+v
[05:11] <histo> erkburgles: paste it into a terminal
[05:11] <Ben64> not from gui to console
[05:11] <erkburgles> it just does ^V
[05:12] <histo> erkburgles: press windows key to open the dash thing. Then type in terminal   press enter when it hilights the terminal applicaiton.
[05:12] <histo> erkburgles: Are you the one that posted that askubuntu question?
[05:12] <histo> erkburgles: and are you using a dell 13 7000 laptop?
[05:12] <erkburgles> no
[05:13] <erkburgles> no no and no
[05:13] <histo> wtf
[05:13] <erkburgles> inspiron 3541i
[05:13] <erkburgles> that was a link given to me around hour 3 from someone on this channel
[05:14] <erkburgles> ok so im in with sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[05:14] <histo> erkburgles: well lets assume they still had some of their sanity left
[05:14] <erkburgles> what am i doing here
[05:14] <histo> erkburgles: add a line    blacklist i2c-hid
[05:14] <erkburgles> dude i know im being difficult, but this is crazy, i was sane earlier today
[05:15] <histo> erkburgles: You're not being difficult. I'm just having trouble following what's going on.
[05:15] <histo> erkburgles: I kind of came in the middle of this.
[05:15] <erkburgles> all i want to do is get the trackpad to work that is absolutely all
[05:15] <histo> erkburgles: I understand.
[05:15] <histo> erkburgles: well once you add that line I believe you hit ctrl+w  to save the file in nano
[05:16] <erkburgles> how do i add the line?
[05:16] <histo> erkburgles: sorry ctrl+o to save
[05:16] <erkburgles> am i just typing at the end of whats written?
[05:16] <histo> erkburgles: use you arrow keys and type with your keyboard
[05:16] <histo> erkburgles: yes
[05:16] <erkburgles> ok what is the line again
[05:16] <histo> erkburgles: blacklist i2c-hid
[05:17] <energizer> Is there a way I can make my audio temporarily mono?
[05:17] <histo> erkburgles: Also page up and page down will probably scrollback this window in whatever irc client you are using.
[05:18] <erkburgles> and what is the save command
[05:18] <histo> erkburgles: ctrl+o   or if you hit ctrl+x  to exit it will ask you if you want to save
[05:19] <erkburgles> ok
[05:19] <erkburgles> now what
[05:19] <histo> erkburgles: reboot and see if it worked
[05:20] <erkburgles> ok ty for your help patience everything
[05:20] <histo> erkburgles: np
[05:23] <agent_white> Evenin'
[05:23] <erkburgles> is histo on this channel?
[05:23] <histo> erkburgles: yes
[05:23] <erkburgles> TY
[05:23] <histo> erkburgles: did it work?
[05:24] <erkburgles> yes it did
[05:24] <erkburgles> jesus christ
[05:24] <somsip> !cookie | histo
[05:24] <erkburgles> lol
[05:24] <erkburgles> well whatever
[05:24] <erkburgles> he helped me
[05:24] <histo> erkburgles: Good, hopefully by the time you upgrade to the next release of ubuntu it has a newer kernel so you don't have to go through all this.
[05:24] <erkburgles> or she, i don't know you
[05:24] <histo> erkburgles: all related to a buggy driver for your touchpad.
[05:24]  * histo is a he
[05:25] <erkburgles> lol ok
[05:25] <smokes> hello
[05:25] <TJ-> erkburgles: Is that the fix for your touchpad issue? Was the solution a mainline kernel upgrade as I suggested?
[05:25] <erkburgles> no
[05:25] <erkburgles> just a blacklist
[05:25] <smokes> looking for best free os
[05:25] <histo> TJ-: the mainline would have worked as well.
[05:25] <erkburgles> ok
[05:25] <histo> smokes: GNU/Linux
[05:25] <erkburgles> i just did it incorrectly
[05:25] <TJ-> erkburgles: Oh, that's even better then. The first suggestion on that Answer we looked at?
[05:26] <erkburgles> yeah i just wanted to do the upgrade and not the simple workaround
[05:26] <erkburgles> cuz it was saying that it was not ideal to just blacklist
[05:26] <TJ-> histo: Yeah.... When I suggested those 2 I thought the mainline kernel would be more certain to solve it since I did see some reports of issues with the touchpad beginning to 'stutter' after a few minutes of use, with the blacklist option
[05:26] <histo> erkburgles: well now you have a working trackpad you can work on getting a newer kernel if you want.
[05:26] <smokes> can it run flash programs
[05:27] <erkburgles> ty histo, TJ, ben64
[05:27] <histo> erkburgles: I would suggest becoming more familiar with linux first. but I'll have ubottu send you instrucitons for the manual and mainline kernel upgrade
[05:27] <histo> !manual > erkburgles
[05:27] <histo> !mainline > erkburgles
[05:27] <histo> smokes: yes
[05:28] <smokes>  ok is  there support for them
[05:28] <smokes> like bugs
[05:29] <TJ-> There is a wider lesson here - always have spare input devices just-in-case ... heck - just have 2 of everything :)
[05:29] <smokes> its for older laptop
[05:30] <smokes> still hear histo
[05:30] <histo> smokes: you are in a support chat room for ubuntu linux, you do realize that right?
[05:31] <smokes> yesk;
[05:31] <TJ-> smokes: There is an (optional) package "flashplugin-installer" which installs the latest Adobe Flash plugin browsers
[05:31] <smokes>  sorry i just wanted some open options
[05:31] <TJ-> s/browsers/for browsers/
[05:31] <histo> !install | smokes
[05:32] <smokes> ok
[05:33] <erkburgles> hey, so when downloading the mainline kernels what command do i use, like here is the file - linux-headers-3.14.4-031404-generic_3.14.4-031404.201405130853_amd64.deb
[05:33] <zdm> Where can I go to check if its okay to uninstall a package
[05:33] <histo> erkburgles: you don't want that file.
[05:33] <erkburgles> o
[05:34] <TJ-> smokes: there are some open-source implementations of the Flash APIs too, such as "gnash" and "lightspark"
[05:34] <zdm> Im wondering if it is okay to uninstall something called ubuntu-desktop. I'm trying to uninstall evince and it wants me to also uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[05:34] <histo> erkburgles: that's an old one. let me take a look at the instructions and see where you are.
[05:34] <TJ-> erkburgles: I have a shell script that fetches and installs the latest version, would you like a copy of that?
[05:34] <erkburgles> yes plz
[05:34] <histo> zdm: it's a meta package you can remove it. Any reason you're getting rid of evince?
[05:35] <zdm> histo: Im using zathura as my pdf viewer instead
[05:35] <zdm> I try to limit what I have installed
[05:35] <zdm> Since last time I was using ubuntu and went crazy with installing whatever messed up my ubuntu
[05:35] <histo> zdm: well it's a default package so that's why it's wanting to remove the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:35] <zdm> So now Im conservative in what I install
[05:35] <TJ-> erkburgles: Download this using your browser, save it in your user home directory: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[05:36] <histo> zdm: Ahh. leaving it shouldn't be an issue either.
[05:36] <zdm> True
[05:36] <TJ-> erkburgles: Then, in a terminal check that file is where you think it is with: "ls -l $HOME/wget*"
[05:37] <zdm> histo: What does meta pacage mean?
[05:37] <zdm> package*
[05:37] <TJ-> erkburgles: If that last command lists the file and its attributes, then you do: "chmod ug+x $HOME/wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[05:38] <TJ-> erkburgles: And now you can execute it with "$HOME/wget_kernel_mainline.sh"
[05:38] <histo> zdm: it's like a package that is just groups other packages together to provide something.
[05:39] <smokes> ok thanks all
[05:39] <histo> zdm: it doesn't actually contain anything itself but requires unity, evince , etc....
[05:39]  * histo hopefully that makes sense
[05:39] <histo> TJ-: nice url
[05:40] <zdm> histo: kinda :P
[05:41] <histo> !ubuntu-desktop | zdm
[05:42] <histo> zdm: https://wiki.debian.org/metapackage
[05:42] <histo> zdm: oh here this is a better explanation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[05:43] <TJ-> zdm: Think of meta-packages like a cooking recipe ... it tells you everything you need but has nothing edible :)
[05:43] <zdm> Thank you hesto! Reading it now and thanks for the analogy TJ-
[05:52] <kanliot> if i mount an btrfs drive with snapshots should it have a bunch of @ stuff in the root folder or is that ubuntu's ubiquity that does that?
[05:57] <Kartagis> good morning
[05:58] <Kartagis> so, I have the issue mentioned at http://paste.debian.net/273889/. some research suggested I update and try again. so I did, to no avail
[06:01] <histo> kanliot: I've never used btrfs but ubuntu isn't putting @ stuff there.
[06:02] <histo> Kartagis: how did you update?
[06:02] <histo> Kartagis: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install openssh-server     should work for you.
[06:02] <Kartagis> histo: sudo apt-get update
[06:03] <histo> Kartagis: update just refreshes your sources it doesn't actually upgrade any packages.
[06:03] <Kartagis> tried upgrade too
[06:03] <Kartagis> tried install -f too
[06:03] <histo> Kartagis: apt-cache showpkg openssh-client
[06:03] <histo> Kartagis: what version does that show?
[06:04] <histo> 1
[06:04] <Kartagis> 6.6p1-2ubuntu1
[06:04] <histo> !info openssh-client
[06:04] <Flannel> Kartagis: Please pastebin `apt-cache policy openssh-server openssh-client`
[06:05] <histo> Kartagis: what does apt-cache search openssh-server   show?
[06:05] <Lewoco> So I explicitly configured "Software & Updates" to 'Never" automatically check for updates, but just now it interrupted me with a notification that "the computer needs to restart to finish installing updates". WTF?
[06:06] <Kartagis> histo: http://termbin.com/sxpr Flannel: http://termbin.com/iwvu
[06:06] <Lewoco> Why in fucks name would I would to be interrupted with annoying popups at all let alone if I explicitly told it not to?
[06:06] <histo> Lewoco: language
[06:07] <Flannel> Kartagis: Did you disable trusty-updates or something (after having it enabled)?
[06:07] <histo> Flannel: that repo is out of sync or something
[06:07] <Flannel> histo: He doesn't have -updates enabled, only trusty, from what his policy shows.  That's my guess anyway.
[06:07] <Kartagis> Flannel: yes actually, not to be annoyed every day
[06:07] <Flannel> (-updates has 2, trusty has 1)
[06:07] <Kartagis> let me re-enable
[06:08] <histo> Kartagis: or remove the openssh-client and update and install
[06:09] <Flannel> Kartagis: I imagine 14.04 is old enough that you probably won't get daily updates anymore.
[06:09] <Kartagis> btw, why is openssh-client dependent on ubuntu-desktop?
[06:09] <loa> so why i need to move to next version of ubuntu?
[06:10] <histo> Lewoco: You probably installed an update and that's why it's asking you to reboot. It's not annoying you with a popup about automatically checking.
[06:10] <loa> i have 14.04 now
[06:10] <Flannel> Kartagis: because ubuntu-desktop is the default thing that a "full desktop" 'should' have.
[06:10] <histo> loa: you don't have to do anything.
[06:10] <loa> and all my video stack is updated i think to actuall drivers...
[06:10] <loa> there was repo xorg maniacs or something lol))
[06:10] <Kartagis> Flannel: will removing it do any damage? /me runs
[06:10] <loa> is there something cool in 15+?
[06:10] <Lewoco> histo, I didn't ask it to install an update. In fact I explicitly told it not to, that's my point.
[06:11] <histo> Lewoco: well something was updated like a kernel or compilier requiring a reboot.
[06:11] <Flannel> Kartagis: No.  But when you upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, you'll likely end up with ubuntu-desktop reinstalled (but that's not the end of the world)
[06:11] <histo> Lewoco: pastebin your apt log
[06:11] <Lewoco> histo, You're missing the point.
[06:12] <histo> Lewoco: No i'm not I'm trying to prove my point.
[06:12] <TJ-> Kartagis: openssh-client isn't dependant on ubuntu-desktop... but ubuntu-desktop depends on packages that in turn depend on openssh-client
[06:13] <Kartagis> TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/276559/
[06:14] <Flannel> Kartagis: right, his point was that ubuntu-desktop doesn't directly depend on openssh-client (ssh-askpass-gnome does).  Also, PLEASE stop using -y when doing those commands.
[06:15] <TJ-> Kartagis: yes, the relationship is ubuntu-desktop >depends> ssh-askpass-gnome >depends> openssh-client
[06:22] <sasaem> On Ubuntu 14.04.2, when I open the "Keyboard" application and there, under "Shortcuts > Navigation" I change "Switch applications" to something - anything - the change does not actually take effect. Even if I reboot, the key combination "alt+tab" still switches windows, even though the Keyboard application tells me that my new key combination should be working. Why??
[06:23] <sasaem> I've Googled about alt-tab and Ubuntu for like 30 minutes, but none of the suggestions seem to make any sense. I found some stuff that indicates people have the same problem, but no solution.
[06:24] <ubuntu336> sasaem: This the unity desktop?
[06:24] <sasaem> Yes.
[06:25] <sasaem> I can change other keybinds in the "Keyboard" application without problems, but the "Switch applications" keybind is apparently un-changeable...even though "Keyboard" will appear to store the change.
[06:25] <ubuntu336> sasaem: There is ccsm and the unity-tweak tool, try thise.
[06:25] <sasaem> It's as if my changes in the "Keyboard" application are totally ignored.
[06:25] <Area51pilot> Is there an irc channel for installing ssl certificates on apache?
[06:25] <TJ-> sasaem: It is controlled by the Compiz compositor; use the 'ccsm' tool to access the configuration for the plugins for that
[06:26] <somsip> Area51pilot: #apache from memory, also see !register
[06:27] <Area51pilot> Somsip thx
[06:27] <TJ-> sasaem: 'ccsm' can be installed using: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[06:27] <Area51pilot> !register
[06:27] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to edit audio CD metadata in rhythmbox
[06:28] <Area51pilot> somsip I'm actually registered... Just using web on tablet at the moment... It's late here
[06:31] <Area51pilot> ...
[06:34] <TJ-> Area51pilot: If you're configuring it on Ubuntu, here's how I have it set-up: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11808542/
[06:41] <sasaem> TJ, ubuntu336: thank you, I was able to use ccsm to configure the Unity plugin's Switcher feature. I changed the keybind there. Is it a bug, then, that the Keyboard application fails to do what it told me it had done?
[06:41] <sasaem> It was very frustrating...
[06:42] <TJ-> sasaem: I'd call it a case of one set of developers wearing blind-folds and not fixing issues their code creates -- definitely a user experience bug
[06:43] <ubuntu336> well said hehe
[06:44] <TJ-> ubuntu3: It's been frustrating the heck out of me for several years, the way Canonical devs ignore the wider impact of their changes, especially when the effects are predictable.
[06:44] <sasaem> How can I determine what this "Keyboard" application actually is, and who owns it, so I can report this nuisance to them? I am very familiar with GNU/Linux, but I am not so familiar with the vagaries of bug reporting in the world of Ubuntu.
[06:46] <TJ-> sasaem: I'd report it as a bug against Unity, which is a Compiz plugin, and against the system-control-center or whatever the package that contains that application is. I don't use Unity here so I'm afraid I can't easily check on that for you
[06:50] <EriC^^> sasaem: are you talking about the keyboard application in unity?
[06:55] <sasaem> EriC^^, yes, I'm not sure how to identify the owner of that application. I'm not very familiar with the way Unity finds and displays "applications".
[06:55] <EriC^^> sasaem: it's part of the unity-control-center package, unity-control-center keyboard opens it
[06:55] <EriC^^> !bug
[06:56] <sasaem> I see. How would one find out that it is part of that package, if one did not already know?
[06:57] <EriC^^> sasaem: well i typed grep -r Keyboard /usr/share/applications to look through the .desktop files for it's name and then saw which command opened it
[06:57] <histo> sasaem: dpkg -L somefile  will show whihc package contains somefil
[06:57] <histo> e
[06:58] <EriC^^> histo: you have to know the package first though
[06:58] <histo> sasaem: sorry -S
[07:00] <voldyman> i am trying to setup ubuntu a canon printer LBG2900 on 14.04  getting the same error as http://askubuntu.com/questions/394620/canon-lbp3100b-printer-capt-driver-is-installed-when-i-try-to-start-ccpd
[07:00] <voldyman> any help?
[07:00] <sasaem> Cool! Thank you for the information. That's very helpful. The missing link was mainly that I did not know that Unity finds its "applications" from the entries in the /usr/share/applications/ directory. The dpkg command is also helpful. Thanks!
[07:02] <TJ-> For locating packages <> files ... to complete the square. For packages you don't have installed, if you *do* have installed "apt-file" then you can locate any file in any package in the release using "apt-file search ..." and other options
[07:04] <cart_man> hey Guys
[07:04] <cart_man> so h ow do I install Nvidia Drivers for my Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:04] <cart_man> I have a Nvidia GT 730
[07:04] <ikonia> !nvidia | cart_man
[07:05] <yzx> hello!I hava a question.when I use gtk+2.0.I send a signal,such as "file_changed".g_signal_connect(view,"files_changed",function,a);g_signal_connect(view,"files_changed",function,b).Can you tell  me gtk+2.0 how to select function
[07:06] <ikonia> yzx: tried the gtk channels ?
[07:07] <yzx> ikonia:om
[07:07] <yzx> o
[07:07] <yzx> ok
[07:08] <agent_white> wg
[07:08] <agent_white> eep
[07:08] <TJ-> yzx: Confusing. Do you mean when you have multiple callbacks registered for "files_changed: you want to be able to choose which one receives the event when you send the "file_changed" signal?
[07:13] <yzx> TJ same calllbacks ,same widget,same signal,but different parameter
[07:14] <yzx> TJ how to work
[07:18] <jishjish> hi all - I would like to move all jpg (which are in many folders and subfolders on a drive into a single subfolder (WHILST also not overriding any file of the same name - incase they are not duplicate). Is this possible in linux terminal or some other way?
[07:20] <TJ-> yzx: I'm having difficulty understanding. You're invoking the same GCallback 'function' with 2 different 'data' parameters. I'm not sure what you mean by  "Can you tell  me gtk+2.0 how to select function"
[07:20] <somsip> jishjish: adapt this http://superuser.com/questions/591222/bash-recursively-move-all-files-in-folders-with-given-name-to-their-parent-dir
[07:20] <hateball> jishjish: you could use find with mv -n
[07:22] <TJ-> jishjish: "find /path/to/root/of/images/dir -type f -iname '*.jpg' -execdir mv --no-clobber {} /path/to/destination/dir \; "
[07:23] <jishjish> thanks TJ-
[07:23] <TJ-> jishjish: you'll need to massage that before using it in anger!
[07:24] <jishjish> TJ-: what do you mean i.e. it could be dangerous?
[07:24] <yzx> TJ When program send a signal ,the GCallback 'function' select which data parameters.
[07:24] <jishjish> which part of it is responsible for not overriting files which names alraedy exist in the destination folder
[07:24] <jishjish> destination folder*
[07:25] <yzx> TJ  the data parameters how to get
[07:25] <TJ-> jishjish: I wouldn't want to use such a command without either testing it on disposable files or doing a 'dry-run' where nothing actually gets moved
[07:25] <TJ-> yzx: You want to get the 'data' parameter in the GCallBack method?
[07:26] <jishjish> TJ-: I can understand testing it on dummy files but since the the command moves stuff how can you do a dry run without moving stuff?
[07:26] <yzx> TJ
[07:26] <somsip> jishjish: cp them
[07:27] <yzx> TJ I want to know,GCallback how to get parameter
[07:27] <TJ-> jishjish: I think in that case, since neither 'find' nor 'mv' have dry-run options, I'd prefix the mv command with echo and then look at the resulting commands that are generated by find to ensure they don't do anything unexpected
[07:29] <boodllebat> Hello i just completed my ubuntu micro plugin its a cli-interface for pastebin.ubuntu.com in C, i wanna get review about it so that i can know weather i have to put it up on my PPA or not, so anybody wanna check out my plugin ?
[07:29] <TJ-> yzx: It depends on the event; a GCallBack method signature suitable for the event type will be generated. see https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/unstable/gobject-Closures.html#GCallback
[07:30] <somsip> !pastebinit | boodllebat (this is generally used here)
[07:30] <TJ-> boodllebat: Fire away, do you have it in a git repo?
[07:31] <boodllebat> TJ-: here it is https://github.com/flouthoc/ubuntupaste
[07:31] <TJ-> boodllebat: Is this a continuation of the C code you were getting hep with in ##linux yesterday ?
[07:31] <boodllebat> TJ-: yes
[07:31] <boodllebat> TJ-: :P
[07:32] <cart_man> So I installed some messa-dev package in order to get Qt up and running on my system...after I have done soo my one screen that is attached to my GPU wont switch on...my Main screen attached to the onboard display does work however
[07:32] <cart_man> I also did an apt-get update`
[07:32] <boodllebat> somsip: i tried it but i did not like it so i created it for myself not for other users but if i'm completed i thought that weather i should upload it on PPA or not
[07:32] <TJ-> boodllebat: OK .. I'll read the code and post you a review/patch in a few minutes (I've already spotted some typos!)
[07:33] <boodllebat> TJ-: :)
[07:33] <cart_man> I now installed Nvidia drivers for the GPU but no luck..its still off
[07:34] <boodllebat> somsip: still you can have a look i have already pasted my repo link
[07:34] <hateball> cart_man: Have you used nvidia-settings to setup the screens?
[07:35] <TJ-> boodllebat: I think you need to spell out more clearly in the README the advantage of your program over pastebinit - as I see it, it is that yours has no dependency on Python - that is a major plus point especially for broken systems
[07:36] <yzx> TJ thanks
[07:37] <boodllebat> TJ-: oh i never spotted these advantages :) thanks wait let me add them.
[07:37] <kanupatar> hi guys
[07:37] <kanupatar> how can I change my machine name in Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:37] <cart_man> hateball:  Yea does not seem to do anything...it seems like the driver is under the impression that it is currently displaying what it should
[07:37] <jishjish> somsip: i would be happy just to copy the files provided they 1) ended up in a single directory and 2) files of the same name were renamed and kept rather than overwritten
[07:38] <hateball> cart_man: and how did you install the nvidia driver?
[07:38] <cart_man> It says it has 1 scree currently attached to it..which is true because the other screen is on the OnBoard display
[07:38] <TJ-> boodllebat: but you should be aware of termbin.com ... that accepts pastes directly over a TCP connection and only needs with BASH or netcat/nc to pipe the output
[07:38] <cart_man> !nvidia | cart_man
[07:38] <jishjish> somsip:  would replacing the mv with cp in TJ's command suffice jishjish: "find /path/to/root/of/images/dir -type f -iname '*.jpg' -execdir mv --no-clobber {} /path/to/destination/dir \; "
[07:39] <hateball> cart_man: Did you install it using Ubuntus utility, or using the file from nvidia?
[07:39] <cart_man> hateball:  I did this command --> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[07:39] <cart_man> BUT
[07:39] <cart_man> without 331
[07:39] <cart_man> was another number
[07:40] <cart_man> think it was 351 (recommended)
[07:40] <cart_man> also I could not find the ubuntu utility by the way
[07:40] <cart_man> hateball:  what is it called?
[07:41] <hateball> cart_man: I am not sure that installing the package using apt actually blacklists noeuvau driver
[07:41] <histo> cart_man: does xrandr show the other display connected?
[07:41] <hateball> cart_man: "Additional drivers" or jockey
[07:41] <histo> hateball: some nvidia packages do
[07:42] <boodllebat> TJ-: oh that is neat , i was addicted to pastebin.ubuntu.com that's the reason i created this plugin i did it for myself but i have asked here if it is useful for other i'll create a PPA package for it , and i've updated the readme https://github.com/flouthoc/ubuntupaste
[07:42] <hateball> histo: Alright. I only ever use the GUI for managing so I did not know
[07:43] <cart_man> hateball: can I pastebin you the output?
[07:43] <cart_man> histo:  ^^
[07:45] <cart_man> histo:  http://pastebin.com/gHJ7iNHM ^^
[07:45] <cart_man> hateball:  http://pastebin.com/gHJ7iNHM ^^
[07:46] <cart_man> So what is the utility's name that helps one install drivers?
[07:46] <cart_man> Ohhh nvm I see
[07:50] <cart_man> restarting my computer
[07:52] <cart_man> hateball:  Ok soo now theres a little dash right at the top of the screen on the left side
[07:52] <hateball> cart_man: Not sure I understand
[07:54] <cart_man> you know when your PC is processing but there is no output on the screen...just like when you just used "clear" command...there only a flashing dash at the top left corner of your screen
[07:54] <cart_man> so this is the case accept it does not flash
[07:55] <hateball> cart_man: Oh, so it never loads the GUI at all?
[07:55] <hateball> cart_man: Not even on your main screen?
[07:55] <hateball> cart_man: What GPU chipset do you have and which driver version did you pick?
[07:57] <vamsiampolu> http://superuser.com/questions/933146/ubuntu-15-04-not-loading-from-external-hard-drive-for-amd
[07:58] <LeartS> Hi guys. I have a problem with a systemd service: it starts correctly but automatically shuts down some seconds later. If I launch  the ExecStart command manually it works
[08:00] <stomanata> Hi, in libreoffice calc i have problem with reading cyrylic words. How can i fix this?
[08:00] <ikonia> LeartS: check the depends
[08:00] <ikonia> LeartS: if it technically start,s but starts and shuts down when called via systemd you'll find it will most likley be a depend
[08:01] <Guest88318> what is the difference between installing a ubuntu based distro with and without lvm?
[08:01] <ikonia> the disk managment system
[08:01] <ikonia> and thats for ubuntu - not ubuntu based distros
[08:02] <Guest88318> what is the difference between having it installed and not having it installed?
[08:02] <pupil> ikonia: is it save to add non-raid to an existing lvm create from raid?
[08:02] <pupil> *created
[08:02] <ikonia> pupil: sorry, I don't understand the question
[08:03] <ikonia> Guest88318: exactly that - you will have LVM controlling your disks, or not
[08:03] <Guest88318> but i mean the effect, what is the benifit of having/not having it installed?
[08:03] <cart_man> hateball:  Seems like it
[08:03] <Guest88318> the difference
[08:03] <BlackDalek> I have an issue with my touchpad on my laptop where, after a few hours, it become "springy" and impossible to control the mouse pointer.  It's just unusable. Oddly enough restarting the OS fixes the problem. My question: is there some way to "reset" the touch pad with
[08:03] <BlackDalek> out a reboot?
[08:03] <cart_man> only way I can talk to you now is with my onboard Display
[08:03] <cart_man> ok soo now I went into the "additional drivers"
[08:03] <ikonia> Guest88318: research lvm
[08:04] <pupil> ikonia: i have a raid, then from this raid i create a lvm. now i want to add new non-raid disk to this lvm. is it save?
[08:04] <Guest88318> k
[08:04] <Guest88318> thanks
[08:04] <nibbler> Guest88318: lvm increases the complexity, but also the possibilities
[08:04] <ikonia> pupil: as long as you understand that new disk volume won't be protected by raid
[08:04] <LeartS> ikonia: the depends are the after= key, right?
[08:04] <ikonia> LeartS: depends on the script, I've seen it done a few messy ways, normally at the start though
[08:04] <cart_man> hateball:  And I installed the Nvidia binary drivers -version 331.113 from nvidia-331-updates(propriety)
[08:05] <oiu> When the Ubuntu installer asks for 'Your name', are you supposed to enter just your given name, your given name and surname, your full name (including middle names), or what?
[08:05] <cart_man> hateball:  Good idea / bad idea ?
[08:05] <ikonia> oiu: whatever name you want to use
[08:05] <nibbler> oiu: up to you, i only give my first, it just ends up in one file on the system and can be changed later. in an professional multiuser environment i'd suggest full names
[08:05] <Guest88318> so with lvm, if i dont have it what do i have?
[08:06] <oiu> Well, I tried my full name but Mugshot recognises my middle name as my surname.
[08:06] <ikonia> Guest88318: standard disk partitions
[08:06] <oiu> I.e. Forename: James  /  Surname: Middle Surname
[08:06] <Guest88318> ok thanks
[08:06] <oiu> Would this be considered a bug?
[08:06] <nibbler> no
[08:06] <Guest88318> so without lvm is it still possible to resize a partition?
[08:07] <nibbler> guest88: yes, but way more complicated
[08:07] <Guest88318> so lvm basically makes disk management simpler on linux right?
[08:07] <nibbler> right
[08:08] <cart_man> hateball:  I have the GT730
[08:08] <Guest88318> so when you hear 'physical volumes' acting as one, that means multiple hard drives are acting as one partition on a system right?
[08:10] <hateball> cart_man: hmm, well do you still have access to a GUI or not? I dont understand what you "talk to me using onboard display"
[08:10] <ikonia> Guest88318: it can do, it depends how want to use it
[08:10] <Guest88318> ok thanks
[08:11] <cart_man> hateball: My main screen is on the Onboard display while the other screen is on the GPU analog plug...because of a lack of HDMI cables
[08:11] <cart_man> This use to work like a normal duel screen scenario...
[08:13] <hateball> cart_man: well it seems support for gt 730 was added in the 340 driver, see http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/76396/en-us
[08:14] <altin> Hi everyone, I have a NAT-ed server in my office on ubuntu server 14.04
[08:14] <altin> I usually connect remotely via ssh
[08:14] <hateball> cart_man: what you could do is use this !ppa, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and try a more recent driver
[08:14] <altin> Since I did the clean install
[08:14] <nibbler> !enter | altin
[08:14] <cart_man> hateball:  Im going with that driver then...will give you a shout if it works
[08:15] <altin> every other day, ssh crashes or something and I cannot do ssh anmore. The only option is rebooting it when I go at the office
[08:15] <altin> ssh does not time out or reject the connection, it just hangs
[08:15] <altin> neither can I ssh locally
[08:15] <voytas> Hello, how can I duplicate mate-panel to my second monitor? Can't find answer on google.
[08:16] <nibbler> altin: don't use enter as punctuation please. i never saw a ssh process crashing in 20 years of linux... anyway, you could set up some script watching ssh and restarting the process or the server if it fails?
[08:18] <altin> nibbler, sorry fore the enterings, that sounds like a wacky solution, anyone had the same problem before ? Would ssh -vvv log help to debug if I post it here ?
[08:19] <TJ-> altin: If the server is the problem you should increase the ssd_config debug output and check the syslog (or where-ever sshd is logging to)
[08:21] <Guest88988> nibble, how do i know wether or not i am using lvm?
[08:22] <ikonia> did you install it using LVM
[08:22] <altin> nibbler, TJ- here's the -vvv output
[08:22] <altin> http://pastebin.com/dD1G8tWB
[08:22] <ikonia> it's a question at the install time
[08:22] <Guest88988> \i know
[08:22] <Guest88988> but i dont remember
[08:22] <Guest88988> i am asking how do i check
[08:23] <TJ-> Guest88988: "mount | grep mapper"
[08:24] <histo> Guest88988: lvscan
[08:25] <Guest88988> lvscan is not installed, should that be the first sign that i do not have lvm?
[08:25] <TJ-> altin: that's from the client-side, it only shows the connection completes OK. The server has responded as expected up to that point, so you need to look at the server logs
[08:26] <histo> Guest88988: I would also check the output of lsblk
[08:26] <Guest88988> when i run lvscan says no volumes found
[08:27] <Guest88988> so that means there are no logical volumes right?
[08:30] <Guest88988> never mind, i will find out myself
[08:31] <chotaz`w> Mornin folks! I tried searching for a proper way to remove older kernels and they all suggest using purge... However if I try to purge olders kernels, apt-get tried to get rid of almost all my system. Anyone has any input on this? Why is purging the suggested way?
[08:32] <somsip> chotaz`w: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[08:33] <voytas> Hello, how can I duplicate mate-panel to my second monitor? Can't find answer on google.
[08:33] <chotaz`w> somsip, thank you!
[08:39] <demoux> join
[08:39] <demoux> how to chat
[08:40] <somsip> demoux: you type and we read. But maybe you should join a chat channel?
[08:40] <demoux> is this not a channel?
[08:40] <demoux> #ubuntu
[08:40] <somsip> demoux: it is a support channel, not a chat channel. Maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <demoux> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <somsip> demoux: '/join #ubuntu-offtopic'
[08:41] <demoux> i got it
[08:41] <demoux> thx
[08:42] <demoux> where do users come from?
[08:42] <demoux> all around the world?
[08:42] <BeerLover> demoux, yes
[08:43] <demoux> how about you , beerlover?
[08:43] <somsip> demoux: and if your question is not about ubuntu support, please ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <somsip> demoux: like that one
[08:45] <demoux> you are a nice man
[08:47] <cart_man> hateball:  Lol so now my onboard is switched off...but its ok I guesss I will just have to go get a cable
[08:50] <Guest78787> so with lvm, if only one hdd is present then there is little benifit from lvm right?
[08:50] <hateball> cart_man: did it at least make the nvidia card work?
[08:50] <cart_man> hateball:  Yes it did thanks allot
[08:51] <cart_man> hateball:  I need to get a HDMI cable to make the other screen work as well
[08:51] <onetwothree123> http://www.bvog.com/?post=IDZQUAW2o3RwyxVRp
[08:52] <demoux> not found
[08:54] <TJ-> Guest78787: LVM is very useful on single disk systems. It allows you to dynamically reallocate extents (free space) at will.
[08:59] <bishops> hi all, have an annoying problem on my ubuntu (14.04) box. Most of the time but not always, when I switch wireless connections as I move from one location to the other, the wireless freezes and can't connect to the new location. So I have to restart the system for it to work. Is there anything I can configure for the app to behave properly?
[09:00] <BlackDalek> is there some command line instruction which will make the touch pad reset in order to fix springy pointer syndrome?
[09:02] <hateball> cart_man: A rather small investment in the scheme of things :)
[09:02] <MagePsycho__> how to make script compatible for *nix system
[09:03] <john__> hi davy
[09:06] <bishops> hi all, have an annoying problem on my ubuntu (14.04) box. Most of the time but not always, when I switch wireless connections as I move from one location to the other, the wireless freezes and can't connect to the new location. So I have to restart the system for it to work. Is there anything I can configure for the app to behave properly?
[09:07] <vbotka> MagePsycho__, you might want to check http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/48786/how-can-i-test-for-posix-compliance-for-shell-scripts
[09:07] <daft> beast
[09:08] <TJ-> bishops: in what way does the freeze occur? The entire PC stops responding, the desktop only, the network-manager GUI applet ?
[09:10] <bishops> TJ-: no it's just the wireless connection. it stops working, tries to connect then says "not connected"
[09:11] <TJ-> bishops: OK ... first place to look for clues is "/var/log/syslog" where Network Manager is very verbose about what it is doing
[09:12] <TJ-> bishops: Did you try doing  disable/re-enable of the WiFi option in the NMapplet (untick etc the Wifi icon) ?
[09:12] <MagePsycho__> vbotka, just want a script for ubuntu and mac-osx
[09:12] <bishops> TJ-: yes i did, sometimes it works but sometimes it doesn't
[09:12] <MagePsycho__> should i make a function to check which OS it is and add the script accordingly
[09:12] <MagePsycho__> most of the script is same.. but differs in few cases
[09:13] <TJ-> bishops: How about 'rfkill block XXX && rfkill unblock XXX"  (which controls the radio) ?
[09:13] <moses> does ubuntu run well on laptops?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> moses, yes
[09:13] <bishops> TJ-: should i run this in the terminal?
[09:14] <gier_do> moses: to be honest, it depends on the laptop.
[09:15] <TJ-> bishops: It is a terminal command yes. First read "man rfkill" to understand how it works , though. You may need to install the 'rfkill' package
[09:15] <gier_do> moses: if the laptop has some weird wifi chip or something, it might be hard to get it running.
[09:15] <TJ-> bishops: I'd suspect there is some clue in the syslog though
[09:15] <bishops> TJ-: looks like i have it installed
[09:15] <chotaz`w> Anyone using spotify on Ubuntu that can provide advice on how to get my web browsers redirecting open.spotify.com/ links to the spotify desktop app?
[09:17] <bishops> TJ-: should i pastebin the syslog? I really don't know how to read these things..
[09:18] <TJ-> chotaz`w: I'm not sure you can do that for a URL, only for a protocol://
[09:18] <TJ-> bishops: Yes, I'll take a read through. If you can tell me at what timestamp it last failed I can quickly zero in on the messages to examine
[09:20] <bishops> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809031/ honestly I'm not sure when it last failed, it hasn't in the last two days as I have been in the same location..
[09:20] <chotaz`w> TJ-, there's spotify:// I've edited my Local State file from chromium to not handle "spotify" scheme and apparentely it fixed the issue, thanks for the input!
[09:21] <TJ-> chotaz`w: The only way I can think is a bit of a hack: first, redirect open.spotify.com via  "/etc/hosts" to localhost. Second, have a process listening on TCP port 80 on localhost that reads the request and then launches the spotify app with the URL as a parameter, suitably processed so spotify app can make sense of it
[09:21] <BlackDalek> is there some command line instruction which will make the touch pad reset in order to fix springy pointer syndrome?
[09:21] <TJ-> chotaz: Ahh, so the browser actually did actually have a handler for a unique protocol
[09:22] <chotaz`w> TJ-, it should work by default when you use Http://open.spotify.com and configure the spotify's webplayer to redirect said urls to the desktop, but it was borking up
[09:22] <chotaz`w> forcing chromium to ignore it apparently fixed it, altough I'm not really aware of the implications, I'm just happy it's solved
[09:24] <TJ-> bishops: In that case you'll need to identify the older syslog covering the time when it last failed. If you do: "ls -latr /var/log/syslog*" and look for the first file with a time/date that is after the last time the issue happened, that should be the file we need. Then, depending on whether the file ends with ".gz" or not, it might need uncompressing before pasting, as in "pastebinit <(zcat /var/log/syslog.3.gz)
[09:25] <TJ-> chotaz`w Ahhh, so it wasn't directly relying on the browser itself then:
[09:26] <bishops> TJ-: Sounds quite elaborate and the problem is that I don't remember when it last happened. But the next time it does, I'll be sure to extract the syslog and find help here! :) Thanks anyway!
[09:26] <TJ-> bishops: do you know the SSID of a failing network? You could simply search those files for it
[09:27] <bishops> TJ-: what's SSID?
[09:27] <histo> bishops: the name of the network
[09:27] <TJ-> bishops: The name of the Wifi network
[09:27] <bishops> TJ
[09:27] <bishops> TJ-: Oh yes
[09:28] <bishops> TJ-: how to search for the files once I have the names
[09:28] <histo> bishops: grep someterm somefile
[09:28] <TJ-> bishops: In which case you can do a search using" "zgrep -n 'SSID' /var/log/syslog*"
[09:28] <histo> bishops: also next time it 'freezes'  you may want to check the output of rfkill list
[09:28] <moses> this laptop is a toshiba satelite and I want it to run ubuntu perfectly
[09:28] <histo> !rfkill | bishops
[09:29] <bishops> histo: what's the command line i have to type to get this output?
[09:29] <histo> moses: you can boot the installation cd and make sure all your hardware works. It boots to a full desktop and lets you try things out. If you want you can then install
[09:29] <cfhowlett> moses, stop wasting time then.  download the ubuntu .iso, make an ubuntu boot USB, boot ubuntu and test.  the questions you're asking will be answered by your testing
[09:29] <histo> bishops: rfkill list    you can type it now. it will show if your card is locked
[09:30] <bishops> TJ-: should I replace 'SSID' with the name of the connection
[09:30] <TJ-> bishops yes
[09:30] <bishops> histo: looks like nothing is blocked
[09:31] <bishops> TJ-: ok I got a bunch of stuff what to do with it? :)
[09:32] <TJ-> bishops: Great! Now lets reduce that output to just a list of files. Replace the "-n" option with "-l" and do it again
[09:32] <bishops> TJ-: Ok got 8 files listed
[09:33] <bishops> TJ-: including /var/log/syslog that we've looked at
[09:33] <TJ-> bishops: OK, now let's try to help you figure out which one contains the last failure. Do you recall what the date was when it last failed?
[09:34] <bishops> TJ-: sorry not to be precise... maybe 30 June.. usually it fails everyday before that because i go from office to work and everytime i have to restart
[09:34] <histo> bishops: zgrep -n 'ssid' /var/log/syslog* | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:34] <TJ-> histo: That's not going to help
[09:35] <TJ-> histo: We will need wpa_supplicant and related, mabe dhclient, messages
[09:35] <histo> true
[09:35] <bishops> :)
[09:35] <TJ-> bishops: Let's assume it was 30th June. Now do "ls -latr /var/log/syslog*"
[09:35] <TJ-> bishops and identify which filename has a date on or after 30 June
[09:36] <bishops> TJ-: done it's everything before syslog 1
[09:36] <bishops> TJ-: let's check /var/log/syslog.2.gz ?
[09:37] <TJ-> bishops: Yes. so "pastebinit <( zcat /var/log/syslog.2.gz ) "
[09:38] <bishops> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809091/
[09:38] <TJ-> bishops: what SSID name are we looking for
[09:39] <bishops> TJ-: VM052629-5G
[09:41] <TJ-> bishops: nothing there; lets have syslog.1.gz ;0
[09:42] <bishops> TJ-: Try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809109/
[09:43] <TJ-> bishops: nothing in those; they cover JUne 25th through june 28th though
[09:44] <TJ-> bishops: the only messages in those are when the system's configuration for that SSID is read. There's no indication of connection attempts
[09:44] <bishops> TJ-: maybe this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809125/
[09:45] <TJ-> bishops: OK, there's something happening from line 3507
[09:45] <Xethron> Greetings
[09:46] <bishops> TJ-: my god for me this is gibberish :)
[09:46] <TJ-> bishops: lines 3528 onwards *may* be causes for concern, not sure yet
[09:47] <bishops> TJ-: maybe line 3557 ?
[09:48] <TJ-> bishops Things are connecting as expected at line 3581 ... continuing to read
[09:49] <TJ-> bishops: line 3584 looks ominous... I would not be expecting it to de-associate from the Access Point!
[09:50] <TJ-> bishops: however it seems to eventually sort itself out, by line 3618
[09:51] <bishops> TJ-: the suspense is unbearable :)
[09:53] <TJ-> bishops:  and by line 3685 IPv4 addressing, routing and DNS are all configured. So that was a good connection example. Now we need to find a *bad* connection and compare them
[09:53] <Rene_x> hi everybody, what is the smallest size i can set an ext4 partition too ? i wanted to make a 2GB partition for /boot but i get complains it's too small, without telling me the allowed size
[09:54] <bishops> TJ-: Can it be that in the meantime I had shut down my system?
[09:56] <EriC^^> Rene_x: you can set any size you want
[09:56] <mcphail> Rene_x: not sure there is a (practical) lower limit to ext4 size. Are you sure the installer is not simply informing you that a 2GB partitionmay be a bit tight for /boot?
[09:56] <EriC^^> about 400mb is ok, also why use a separate boot?
[09:56] <Rene_x> no the installer refuses my 2GB size
[09:56] <TJ-> bishops: The logs should contain everything that happened until you did the shutdown
[09:56] <Rene_x> but doesn't give a hint what size it wants
[09:56] <Rene_x> and my current boot dir is 200mb
[09:57] <EriC^^> Rene_x: post a screen shot
[09:57] <Rene_x> i mean used up
[09:57] <Rene_x> so i guessed 2gb would be okay
[09:57] <bishops> TJ-: but my point is, does it read the shutdown? or does it switch to a new file once the shutdown happens? sorry i'm very ignorant in these things..
[09:57] <mcphail> Rene_x: I've made /boot partitions smaller than that, and I think they were ext4. However, /boot can fill up a lot
[09:58] <TJ-> bishops: There's nothing there to indicate a connection failure
[09:58] <Rene_x> i'm using the ubuntu 64bit 14 LTS iso/installer and it refuses to alter my current partiton
[09:58] <bishops> TJ-: should i send the log of another file?
[09:58] <TJ-> bishops: The log entries resume where they left off when you reboot
[09:59] <Rene_x> i dont know what a screenshot will say more :D
[09:59] <TJ-> bishops: No, syslog is *the* file for NetworkManager
[09:59] <mcphail> Rene_x: so are you actually shrinking an existing ext4 partition rather than creating a new one?
[09:59] <Rene_x> i can't find anything in searches about a size
[09:59] <Rene_x> yeh i guess so
[09:59] <bishops> TJ-: maybe this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809167/
[10:00] <Rene_x> maybe i should wipe the existing partiton ?
[10:00] <TJ-> bishops: best thing is next time it happens, before you shutdown, save the current syslog to a file in your home directory with "cp /var/log/syslog $HOME/syslog.bad.wifi.log" or similar and then bring that to us when convenient
[10:00] <bishops> TJ-: OK I take note
[10:01] <Rene_x> i want to make 2 partitions for /boot & / where there is curently only 1 partiton for ubuntu 12 lts
[10:01] <mcphail> Rene_x: I've just made a 10MB ext4 filesystem, so that isn't the problem
[10:01] <bishops> TJ-: ok thanks!
[10:02] <mcphail> Rene_x: the installer is probably complaining there is not enough space to shrrink the partition without destroying data. Wipe and start again
[10:02] <Rene_x> yeh i will try to first destroy the curent partiton and try again
[10:02] <Rene_x> i need to be carefull on the other partiton is windows :)
[10:03] <Rene_x> okay thanks for the info , going down for a boot :D
[10:03] <mcphail> Rene_x: good luck
[10:03] <Rene_x> thanks
[10:03] <TJ-> bishops: I don't see any failures in the most recent file, so far. However, you recall I pointed to some unexpected warnings originally, referring to desktop files. I'm wondering if what is happening is the NMapplet failing rather than the underlying network itself. In other words the network connects but the indicator applet crashes
[10:03] <bishops> TJ-: ok, what does it mean overall?
[10:04] <traekili> !backup
[10:06] <Kobotex> test
[10:09] <TJ-> bishops: Those warnings just after line 3531 may be harmless; they seem to indicate there are application launcher .desktop files for "indicator-remindor", "touchpad-indicator-autostart" and "indicator-multiload.desktop" missing. Maybe you deleted those packages but didn't purge them of their configuration files
[10:10] <bishops> TJ-: ok how do i do that? is sudo apt-get autoremove?
[10:10] <EriC^^> bishops: dpkg -l | grep ^rc
[10:11] <EriC^^> bishops: or dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[10:11] <bishops> EriC^^: thanks ! it gave me a list of linux-image etc
[10:12] <TJ-> bishops: It's not a terrible issue; certainly not a cause of the WiFi  issue.
[10:13] <EriC^^> if you're sure you want to remove them all, type dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/ {print$2}' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[10:13] <bishops> EriC^^: if the system does not need them I'll remove them!
[10:13] <EriC^^> bishops: type dpkg -l | grep ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:14] <bishops> EriC^^: it gave me this: http://termbin.com/tfr3
[10:15] <EriC^^> bishops: wow, those are quite a few
[10:16] <bishops> EriC^^: i know, why is my system keeping all this! doesn't ubuntu automatically delete the stuff i don't need?
[10:17] <EriC^^> no, by default it keeps them unless you use apt-get purge
[10:17] <cfhowlett> bishops, nope.  sysadmin = YOU.
[10:17] <TJ-> bishops: did you do a release-upgrade (e.g. from 12.04 to 14.04) ?
[10:17] <bishops> but unused linux kernels should be removed as new ones are installed no?
[10:18] <bishops> TJ-: no no upgrade i always had 14.04
[10:18] <cfhowlett> bishops, best practice = keep 2 kernels.  new one and the previous one
[10:18] <TJ-> bishops: "rc" means the configuration is kept in case you reinstall later. The big stuff (binaries) is removed
[10:18] <bishops> cfhowlett: ok good to know. now how do i delete all this
[10:18] <abbasi> i need help
[10:18] <cfhowlett> bishops, sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:18] <bishops> have to go back to what Eric was saying
[10:19] <traekili> trying to find something like remastersys, is there something ive missed?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !help | abbasi
[10:19] <TJ-> bishops: I suspect that is just the remainder from your trying some programs and then uninstalling them
[10:19] <traekili> i dont want to add ppa
[10:19] <abbasi> what is meant by failed to open file in apend mode
[10:19] <bishops> sudo apt-get autoremove nothing happened
[10:20] <abbasi> http://s1.postimg.org/v4rix1b0f/Capture.png this is prob
[10:20] <cfhowlett> bishops, sudo apt-get clean will clean out the cache
[10:20] <bishops> shoudl I do: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/ {print$2}' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge ?
[10:21] <abbasi> now where is your reply??
[10:21] <bishops> cfhowlett: they are still there
[10:22] <cfhowlett> bishops, what version of ubuntu?
[10:22] <abbasi> bishops
[10:22] <bishops> 14.04
[10:22] <EriC^^> bishops: if you're sure you don't need the configuration files of those packages, sure go ahead
[10:22] <bishops> EriC^^: would i need them? how do i know :)
[10:22] <bishops> EriC^^: i just want to make sure i keep the last linux kernel in
[10:23] <EriC^^> are you going to reinstall them? did you modify them when they were installed?
[10:23] <bishops> EriC^^: no
[10:23] <abbasi> can u tell me plz about my prob?
[10:23] <k1l_> abbasi: what ubuntu is it exactly? what command gives that error? what is the whole output?
[10:23] <k1l_> abbasi: more details, more help
[10:23] <abbasi> ubuntu is 13.10
[10:24] <abbasi> and screen command is giving error
[10:24] <bazhang> eol abbasi
[10:24] <bishops> EriC^^: i did it
[10:24] <bishops> :)
[10:24] <EriC^^> bishops: ok :>
[10:24] <bazhang> upgrade to a supported version abbasi
[10:24] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | abbasi
[10:24] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[10:24] <abbasi> which one?
[10:24] <hateball> heh
[10:25] <bazhang> abbasi, at least 14.04
[10:25] <bazhang> read the link given you abbasi to do it
[10:25] <abbasi> i cant run?
[10:25] <bishops> Thank you guys, you are really helpful!!
[10:25] <abbasi> on this version
[10:25] <EriC^^> bishops: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should update all the packages including the kernels
[10:26] <bishops> EriC^^: ok I ran it and nothing is upgradable so all good
[10:26] <abbasi> is upgrade deletes my data?
[10:27] <k1l_> abbasi: server_log.txt sounds like windows to me.  but since 13.10 is dead already, upgrade to 14.04 first. maybe the issue is gone then anyway
[10:27] <histo> abbasi: you should backup your data first.  However if you follow the directions carefully the upgrade may work for you.
[10:27] <abbasi> :/
[10:28] <histo> abbasi: what are you doing when you get that error?
[10:28] <abbasi> tomorrow hexafraction solved my issues he didnt told me for upgrade
[10:28] <abbasi> i use screen cmd
[10:28] <bishops> EriC^^: By the way, now, when i run: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999 I get: Use netcat. Is this normal?
[10:28] <bazhang> abbasi, tomorrow?
[10:29] <k1l_> abbasi: its your fault. if you dont want to upgrade a long time stay on the LTS version. so upgrade to 14.04 since its a LTS
[10:29] <bazhang> abbasi, your current version is NOT supported, upgrade to get into support
[10:29] <abbasi> last day :P
[10:29] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | abbasi read this
[10:29] <abbasi> k
[10:30] <k1l_> abbasi: you know your system got really big security issues?
[10:30] <abbasi> ye i know
[10:30] <abbasi> i was facing account prob
[10:30] <histo> abbasi: find /home/abbasi -type f -iname server_log.txt
[10:30] <abbasi> but a guy on this irc fixed that
[10:31] <histo> abbasi: probably a permisisons issue with that server_log file  so we need to find it first
[10:31] <k1l_> abbasi: so better upgrade to a supported ubuntu asap. 13.10 is not getting any securtiy updates anymore. so its a easy target
[10:32] <abbasi> that cmd is showing home/abbasi is a directory
[10:33] <abbasi> if i will upgrade i will again face user account issues
[10:33] <abbasi> that y i dont want upgrade
[10:33] <k1l_> abbasi: so that system is a mess?
[10:33] <bishops> EriC^^: i'm scare to restart my computer and not have a kernel to work with!
[10:33] <abbasi> :/
[10:35] <notfly_> hi, I have the backlight turned off after installing fglrx drivers, any idea what to do? I can't even switch to a terminal
[10:36] <luigi> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:37] <notfly_> help
[10:39] <bishops> EriC^^: please can you tell me if you know what is wrong here? i'm getting a really weird message when I run : dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[10:40] <EriC^^> bishops: what message?
[10:40] <luigi> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[10:40] <EriC^^> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required?
[10:41] <bishops> EriC^^: well i try to run dpkg -l | grep ^rc | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:41] <bishops> EriC^^: to paste it for you but I get a "Use netcat" message
[10:41] <EriC^^> bishops: oh, that's ok
[10:41] <EriC^^> bishops: if you want pastebinit is a cool program for pastebinning
[10:41] <TJ-> abbasi: Show us the command you are issuing that results in that error message. We have no idea what program is reporting it.
[10:42] <EriC^^> bishops: like dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | pastebinit
[10:42] <bishops> EriC^^: Ok thanks here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809454/
[10:43] <abbasi> i m using screen command to run a gAming server and that .txt file is uploaded by that server
[10:44] <abbasi> but its showing failed to run server_log.txt in append mode
[10:44] <bazhang> abbasi, upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 at least, your current is end of life
[10:44] <k1l_> abbasi: running 13.10 as a server is not a good idea since its not getting any security updates and could getting hacked very easily. so upgrade that asap
[10:44] <abbasi> ok
[10:45] <k1l_> if you run a server go with the LTS versions (12.04 or 14.04) that get 5 years support.
[10:45] <notfly_> halp, I've got the fglrx driver and it turns off backlight, I can't see anything, I can't switch to a terminal
[10:45] <notfly_> I am in recovery mode
[10:45] <notfly_> idk how to mount things so I can change things
[10:46] <abbasi> how much time upgrade takes?
[10:46] <bishops> EriC^^: so, does it look fine to you?
[10:46] <sebastian_> hi all, my plasmashell is constantly freezing after a few minutes
[10:46] <k1l_> abbasi: depends on the power of the machine, the bandwith, the installed stuff that needs to get updated, etc etc.
[10:47] <sebastian_> after killing plasmashell, kwin_x11 freezes too
[10:47] <clays116>  hello who can help me with openstack? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again
[10:48] <TJ-> abbasi: You'd need to ask the developers of the gaming server for help; that's a problem with that program, not with Ubuntu
[10:48] <PaulVern> !cn
[10:49] <abbasi> k :(
[10:50] <sebastian___> anyone have an idea how I can get my system to a reusable state again?
[10:52] <k1l_> sebastian___: you might want to ask in #kubuntu maybe they know better about kde specific issues
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:54] <bojan> Any recovery tool for ubuntu??
[10:55] <Amm0n> bojan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[10:57] <e01> with lcpci I should see all connected devices regardless they have drivers or not, right?
[10:57] <bojan> Amm0n:simple data recovery tool for deleted recovery??
[10:57] <sebastian__> k1l_: I cannot join that channel here in irc
[10:59] <Amm0n> bojan, if your data are importend to you, you should read the whole thing before you do anything else
[10:59] <bojan> Amm0n:okay
[11:00] <hateball> sebastian__: if it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226 you could try "apt-get remove kubuntu-notification-helper"
[11:00] <k1l_> sebastian__: see explanation in #kubuntu-unregged
[11:04] <arcsky> hey guys, resolv.conf doesnt work well with DNS settings. where do i apply it?
[11:05] <vlt> !details | arcsky
[11:05] <zykotick9> arcsky: i believe it goes into /etc/network/interfaces now... <- wait for confirmation from someone who knows (i've never used that method)
[11:07] <napolit> hiii, may someone help me? I have a problem when installing ubuntu 14.04
[11:07] <napolit> I've bought a laptop, Lenovo Z70
[11:08] <arcsky> zykotick9: i have dns-servers <IP_ADDRESS> and it doesnt work after restart the networking process
[11:08] <zykotick9> arcsky: sorry, i have no suggestions.  good luck.
[11:09] <napolit> first of all, I installed ubuntu Z70, and it worked but this version is not supported anymore, therefore I installed ubuntu 14.04 but the screen doesn't work properly, even when I use ubuntu in the way live-cd it doesn't work well, I tried to install the Nvidia drivers and I didn't get it works fine, I used an external screen, and it worked well
[11:09] <napolit> and now I don't know what to do :(
[11:10] <Amm0n> arcsky, if you use networkmanager add it there, if not read: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution
[11:11] <vlt> arcsky: What does "doesn't work" look like?
[11:11] <Hadish> PRIVMSG Hamide hello
[11:11] <arcsky> resolve.conf work but its overwritten by any process
[11:11] <napolit> there are like "vertical" lines which move
[11:11] <napolit> the screen moves a little bit
[11:11] <arcsky> how hard can it be to just tell me where to configure a DNS ?
[11:12] <vlt> arcsky: The file /etc/resolv.conf gets overridden by networkmanager usually. It says that often RIGHT IN THE FILE.
[11:12] <EriC^^> bishops: yes, it looks fine
[11:12] <Hadish> PRIVMSG Hamide salam
[11:12] <arcsky> vlt: i use only CLI where is the networkmanager ?
[11:13] <Hamide> PRIVMSG  Hadish hhjkk
[11:13] <vlt> arcsky: Again, that depends on your settings. What does /etc/resolv.conf say about it?
[11:14] <arcsky> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[11:14] <arcsky> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[11:16] <TJ-> arcsky: Network Manager is a system demon service it doesn't need a GUI interface to be used. At the command line there is "nmcli"
[11:17] <TJ-> arcsky: Usually "/etc/resolv.conf" is a symlink and will generally point to a private local instance of 'dnsmaq' controlled by Network Manager over DBus
[11:18] <g105b> How do I check what format a certificate key file is in?
[11:19] <arcsky> TJ-: why does Ubuntu do that ? I cant see the point with that
[11:21] <TJ-> arcsky: It's a choice by the NetworkManager project, and ensures that in most cases networking configuration works
[11:22] <zykotick9> arcsky: fyi, it's the package "resolvconf" that is overwritting resolv.conf file.  without that package you can use resolv.conf normally... BUT the "resolvconf" package _might_ be required by one of Ubuntu's metapackages :(
[11:23] <arcsky> Ubuntu just add lots of crap lately
[11:24] <twk> hah
[11:24] <arcsky> keep it old linux style , as i prefer
[11:24] <voldyman> i am trying to install cannon LBP 2900 on ubuntu 14.04 and get this error "Check the DevicePath of /etc/ccpd.conf"
[11:24] <TJ-> arcsky: if you want to disable dnsmasq see "man 5 networkmanager.conf" and the [main] > "dns=" settings
[11:24] <twk> try and make bonding and vlan tagging work in 12.04 on a gen9blade
[11:24] <voldyman> same as same error as http://askubuntu.com/questions/394620/canon-lbp3100b-printer-capt-driver-is-installed-when-i-try-to-start-ccpd
[11:25] <voldyman> vasanth: hey are you in bangalore?
[11:25] <TJ-> arcsky: You've installed the wrong task - if you don't the common set of packages install ubuntu-minimal and build from there
[11:25]  * voldyman knows a vasanth who uses ubuntu and is in bangalore
[11:27] <arcsky> TJ-: Ubuntu server isnt minimal?
[11:28] <arcsky> in my world i live in i only go to a file add dnsserver <IP_ADDRESS> and it will work..
[11:28] <arcsky> i cant be the first guy in this channel who thinks this i wierd stuff
[11:30] <TJ-> arcsky: You're expecting to do things manually. I don't know if you have NetworkManager installed or not. If not, the nameservers are usually configured in "/etc/network/interfaces"
[11:31] <arcsky> http://pastebin.com/J5MWKWKe
[11:31] <TJ-> arcsky: In which case see "man 8 resolvconf" and the stanza on "ifup", in particular the 'interfaces' statements "dns-nameservers" and companions
[11:31] <jgabor> [6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/window 6
[11:31] <arcsky> why so complicated TJ- ?
[11:31] <TJ-> arcsky: There's your problem
[11:31] <TJ-> arcsky: "dns-servers" != "dns-nameservers"
[11:33] <arcsky> i did change and restarted networking . still doesnt work
[11:35] <TJ-> arcsky: have you replaced the symlink /etc/resolv.conf with a file, in which case you won't see the change. The file that is updated by resolvconf is "/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[11:35] <baezra> hiii, please, could somebody help me? I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but my screen doesn't work very well, unlike external screens and unlike ubuntu 12.02 :(
[11:38] <hateball> baezra: What do you mean "not very well"? Does it not display any image?
[11:38] <jeppech> Hi! I'm trying to write an Upstart script for a nodejs application. The thing is, this nodejs app, can sometimes take a few minutes to shutdown gracefully (depending on active connections). Does Upstart force my app to shutdown, if it's still running Nth seconds after 'sudo stop myapp' has been issued?
[11:39] <baezra> it shows, but the screen moves a little bit, I don't know how to explain it, but there are like vertical lines and pixels which brightness varies from a millisecond to the next one
[11:40] <fengc> is there anyone use xubuntu?
[11:40] <cfhowlett> fengc, only  a few million
[11:40] <jeppech> I've configure script to send a SIGINT as the kill signal, and I tried testing it by, making the app do nothing on that particular signal, but it was still terminated a few seconds later
[11:41] <hateball> baezra: What GPU and driver are you using?
[11:41] <baezra> at first I thought that it was a problem of the Nvdia driver, but I have tried to update the drivers for Nvidia and it still doesn't work (and sometimes when I have tried to install it, the screen looks black)
[11:42] <hateball> baezra: could you run "lshw -c video" and pastebin the result?
[11:42] <hateball> !paste | baezra
[11:43] <fengc> when I use xubuntu in vmware, I feel slowly. I give it 1 core and 1G memory
[11:43] <baezra> I use this computer: 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500 CPU @ 2.40 GHz, it has the "VGA compatible controller" (Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09) (prog-if 00[VGA controller])
[11:43] <cfhowlett> fengc, it's a VM.  of course it runs slower than ntive.
[11:44] <baezra> 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
[11:44] <baezra> ok, I will run it
[11:44] <fengc> thanks
[11:45] <baezra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809692/
[11:46] <baezra> it is like if the Nvidia driver was not installed... isn't it?
[11:47] <hateball> baezra: ah, so you have a optimus system
[11:47] <hateball> !optimus
[11:48] <hateball> hmmm
[11:48] <hateball> isnt it nvidia-prime that is used nowadays...
[11:49] <heap_> hi, there is owner option in bind ... but i doesnt work?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/bindfs.1.html
[11:49] <alan22> how to erase grub rescue file
[11:49] <heap_> A is samba:samba and im trying to mount it to B using bind as root:root
[11:49] <baezra> what do you mean?, what could I do?
[11:49] <hateball> baezra: Google suggests http://askubuntu.com/questions/518985/ubuntu-14-04-and-nvidia-geforce-840m-compatability-on-64-bit-laptop/557395#557395 but I have not tried this myself
[11:50] <baezra> ohh, I am going to check it
[11:50] <hateball> sebastian__: did you try "apt-get remove kubuntu-notification-helper" to help your crashing?
[11:50] <alan22> i have dual boot win7 and ubuntu , i remove ubuntu partion with partition manager in win , now upon restart win not start. error grub rescue, how to remove grub rescue, i try to installed with live usb bu tthen ubuntu freezed after install
[11:51] <sebastian__> hateball: I did
[11:51] <baezra> I have already tried it, I had already found that website :(, but it didn't work, if I remember well, then the screen looked black
[11:51] <sebastian__> hateball: sadly no improvement
[11:51] <hateball> sebastian__: Ack
[11:52] <sebastian__> hateball: it turned out, plasmashell and kwin freezes are independant. they both freeze, but at a different time
[11:52] <sebastian__> hateball: sudo killall Xorg releases this for a moment
[11:52] <baezra> my computer is a Lenovo Z70-80 (in that website, they talk about a Lenovo Z50-70)
[11:52] <hateball> baezra: It's still the same GPU chipset
[11:53] <hateball> sebastian__: weird. nothing in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[11:55] <sebastian__> hateball: there is lots of messages in ~/.xsession-errors
[11:55] <baezra> mmmm, I am going to try it one more time
[11:55] <hateball> !paste | sebastian__
[11:56] <baezra> but I am afraid that the screen appears one more time black and I had to reinstall ubuntu (I am not an expert..)
[11:56] <linelevel1> Hi guys... I'm on a Thinkpad T410 laptop... on 12.04, I could use the command `echo "level $1" | sudo tee /proc/acpi/ibm/fan` (where the $1 argument is a number 1 - 7 or one of a few special strings).. but ever since I upgraded to 14.04, this stopped working, and I can't figure out how to change the fan speed anymore.
[11:57] <linelevel1> ^ Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
[11:57] <baezra> thanks a lot for all your help, hateball, I am going to try it and then I will tell you if I achieved it :)
[11:57] <Hamide> PRIVMSG Hadish salam
[11:58] <alan22> i have dual boot win7 and ubuntu , i remove ubuntu partion with partition manager in win , now upon restart win not start. error grub rescue, how to remove grub rescue, i try to installed with live usb bu tthen ubuntu freezed after install ...
[11:59] <sebastian__> hateball: An error has occurred in the Pastebin software. Please notify the administrators.
[11:59] <greenerr> tuber
[12:00] <neurot> recovery disk windows 7 can fix it alan22
[12:01] <alan22> okay, means there is not any other option. thx
[12:01] <neurot>  alan22 https://www.google.com/search?gs_ivs=1&q=recovery+disk#q=fix+Master+boot+record+Windows+7&tts=0
[12:02] <Hadish> PRIVMSG Hamide hello
[12:02] <heap_> can i use mount bind and change ownership of target folder?
[12:03] <dave_ye> #
[12:03] <heap_> when i use user option doesnt work..
[12:05] <pippone> ciao
[12:06] <pippone> !list
[12:06] <rainbowwarrior> Hello , I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and when I put in a 64GB Micro Sd card (inside an adapter to make it normal sd card ) it seems to think it is 67GB and keeps coming up with an error, how can I fix this please ?
[12:11] <rainbowwarrior> never mind , got it working found out I had to do "
[12:11] <rainbowwarrior> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[12:11] <rainbowwarrior> " then re-insert the card.
[12:16] <the-rathalos> hello
[12:18] <sebastian__> argh
[12:18]  * rainbowwarrior hugs google
[12:18] <sebastian__> anyone knows how to remove ^@ chars form a file?
[12:18] <rainbowwarrior> sebastian__, what sort of file is it ?
[12:19] <sebastian__> rainbowwarrior: ~/.xsession-errors
[12:20] <abbasi> hexafraction r u there?
[12:22] <rainbowwarrior> sebastian__, let me upload a script for you , it should work
[12:22] <rainbowwarrior> by removing junk
[12:24] <rainbowwarrior> wb sebastian_
[12:24] <sebastian_> rainbowwarrior: sorry, my system is freezing after about 5 minutes.
[12:25] <rainbowwarrior> sebastian_, try using my program , although it is for red5 i have used it for other files and it has worked :- http://www.pathoflight.org.uk/striptext.php
[12:25] <ivan_on_trac> cron process. It does not contain /usr/local/bin in $PATH. I can change this behavior and include the /usr/local/bin?
[12:25] <sebastian_> rainbowwarrior: first, plasmashell freezez, then kwin freezes, then only sudo killall Xorg helps :/
[12:25] <rainbowwarrior> :o
[12:26] <somsip> sebastian_: use pastebin to paste a sample
[12:27] <sebastian_> rainbowwarrior:  I've uplaoded the content
[12:28] <sebastian_> rainbowwarrior: shoud I get something back?
[12:29] <rainbowwarrior> yes , give me a few minutes for some reason its decided to play up
[12:32] <sebastian__> a subset of my xsession-errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11809849/
[12:35] <sebastian__> any hint in the log file?
[12:35] <AnonTheHunter> #OpBullfight
[12:38] <atrius`> anyone having an issue with Chrome where things appear kinda fuzzy? the info bar at the bottom and other rendering just seems... off
[12:40] <sebastian__> would killing kded5 degrade the stability of my system?
[12:40] <bekks> sebastian__: Depends on how/what you are going to kill.
[12:40] <sebastian__> bekks: kded is using a whole cpu core
[12:41] <bekks> sebastian__: And why do you want to kill it?
[12:42] <sebastian__> bekks: becasue I'm desperate to find the cause of my system freeze
[12:42] <bekks> sebastian__: So is the system frozen currently?
[12:42] <cart_man> Why cant I seem to use " ldd " >
[12:43] <cart_man> ?
[12:43] <cart_man> How would I install libc ?
[12:43] <bekks> cart_man: How did you manage to uninstall it? 8o)
[12:44] <cart_man> bekks:  Well its actually just not here
[12:44] <cart_man> I cant seem to use ldd
[12:44] <TJ-> cart_man: package is 'libc-bin' for 'ldd'
[12:44] <bekks> cart_man: "cant seem to use"?
[12:45] <cart_man> Yip ... No command 'ldd' found
[12:45] <cart_man> oh wait
[12:45] <cart_man> teh fk...   -.-
[12:46] <bekks> cart_man: hmm?
[12:46] <cart_man> bekks:  Dont know if I typed it wrong ... seems to be there now : /
[12:50] <kimegede> Hi, if I want to run some crons in another timezone. I found out that crontab can't handle that part.
[12:51] <kimegede> Some is saying it can be done with fcron ?
[12:51] <bekks> If you know the difference to the other timezone, you're done :)
[12:52] <kimegede> bekks: Not true, as the difference changes between daylight savings.
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> kimegede  every 6 months, you mean?
[12:53] <kimegede> Yes
[12:53] <kimegede> MonkeyDust: More that every six months. As countries changes to daylight time on different days :D
[12:54] <bekks> You could set your servers to UTC :)
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> kimegede  then i guess you can handle it with a script
[12:55] <kimegede> bekks: Still doesn't fix the issue, as there is multiple crons there needs to be running in different timezones.
[12:55] <kimegede> MonkeyDust: Someone else, must have done this before. Is my point :)
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> kimegede  try setting the 'env' for each cron job to the corresponding timezone
[12:56] <kimegede> "man cron" says "The environment can be redefined in user's crontab definitions but cron will only handle tasks in a single timezone."
[12:56] <kimegede> Hmm.. must be something.
[12:57] <ioria> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28195736/which-timezone-uses-cron-on-ubuntu-14-04
[12:58] <kimegede> Yeah, the answer also says "LIMITATIONS". Thanks
[12:58] <kimegede> ioria
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> kimegede  found what you're looking for?
[12:59] <kimegede> Only that cron can't do it as it's running in one timezone.
[12:59] <ioria> :-(... there should be something
[12:59] <kimegede> Yeah that really must be something here :D
[12:59] <mz-gmr> hi can anyone tell me where is settings.json for transmission bt located in ubuntu
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> kimegede  maybe the people in #bash can help
[13:01] <kimegede> Thanks MonkeyDust
[13:04] <mz-gmr> nevermind i found it thanks anyways !!!
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> mz-gmr  glad i could help
[13:07] <DammitJim> is there such a thing as a server with too much RAM?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> DammitJim  what brings you here?
[13:09] <DammitJim> MonkeyDust, I use Ubuntu in many of my VMs
[13:10] <DammitJim> I've been assigned a project to go back to physical hardware
[13:10] <DammitJim> this server has 256GB of RAM
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> that huge
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> that's huge
[13:10] <DammitJim> my concern is that (and maybe I'm not up to date on this) normally the swap is double the RAM
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> DammitJim  with that much ram, i guess you don't need swap
[13:11] <rypervenche> DammitJim: I've seen servers with many terabytes of RAM
[13:11] <DammitJim> the server has 1.5TB of hard drive space, but for my life I can't conceive using 512GB of swap in the partition
[13:11] <DammitJim> I personally think this is a waste, but that's a different discussion
[13:11] <yerm> hi!
[13:11] <TJ-> DammitJim: You don't swap on disk with that, you could put it in zram
[13:11] <DammitJim> TJ-, zram?
[13:11] <yerm> hi my friend please join #ubuntu-indonesia
[13:11] <yerm> thank you
[13:12] <TJ-> DammitJim: formerly known as compcache
[13:12] <DammitJim> oh
[13:13] <TJ-> DammitJim: The point is that system will rarely need to swap, but having a swap partition can help in some circumstances, so putting it in zram retains the access speed of RAM
[13:14] <DammitJim> TJ why won't I swap on disk with what I have?
[13:14] <xam> hi guys!
[13:15] <DammitJim> I mean, if anything, I won't be using any swap
[13:15] <polishpoliceforc> Hey guys anyone that considers themselves an "Expert" of linux / ubuntu on?
[13:15] <jin71> hi. Is there anyone use Anki to learn language?
[13:15] <DammitJim> compcache is used to compress stuff in RAM so that one has "more" RAM and it's the opposite in my case
[13:15] <jin71> hihi
[13:15] <TJ-> DammitJim: Because unless your data-set is very memory-hungry I assume you size the RAM to ensure everything runs in-memory rather than from slow disk
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> !ask | polishpoliceforc
[13:15] <polishpoliceforc> I have questions that aren't so much technical but more about experience with linux
[13:15] <polishpoliceforc> ok
[13:15] <DammitJim> hhmmmm... I don't get it
[13:16] <TJ-> DammitJim: If your application + data only needs 192GB RAM then with 256GB there'll be almost no need to swap out
[13:16] <polishpoliceforc> Well for starters I'm a little sad to say that while I've been using linux for 2 years now mainly for work on programming... I feel like I'm still a complete noob at it. Not much different from when I first picked it up at the beginning.
[13:17] <DammitJim> oh no, my application won't use more than 64GB of RAm
[13:17] <DammitJim> RAM
[13:17] <TJ-> DammitJim: The kernel doesn't have to have swap; as long as you're fine with the OOM killer being activated
[13:17] <polishpoliceforc> I still don't fully understand how to control linux or use the freedom it provides to its fullest and I have no clue where to start reading about doing so.
[13:17] <TJ-> DammitJim: In that case redeploy 192GB of RAM to other systems :)
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> polishpoliceforc  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:18] <hateball> !ot | polishpoliceforc
[13:19] <polishpoliceforc> oh kk my bad i will go there instead, i wasn't aware that channel existed
[13:19] <polishpoliceforc> i will try to be on topic from now on when i ask
[13:20] <hateball> polishpoliceforc: No harm done, just informing :)
[13:21] <gier_do> DammitJim: If your server would start to swap out 512GB, the server would start to get absolutely unusable anyways.
[13:26] <arcsky> hey guys, im trying to install Ubuntu. I got error when i come to the Grub installation. it says "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda" but i want it to be installedf on /dev/sdb . how can i do that?
[13:27] <DammitJim> gier_do, that's what I was thinking
[13:27] <DammitJim> but regardless, what size should my swap be?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> arcsky, use the "do something else" option to manually select the grub install target
[13:30] <arcsky> cfhowlett: where can i find that setting?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> arcsky, restart the installer
[13:31] <serialinux> [someone] has CDkey for ubuntu?? dont have money
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> serialinux  ubuntu doesnt need a key
[13:31] <cfhowlett> serialinux, no cd key required and ubuntu is free.
[13:33] <serialinux> didnt know it. sorry
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> serialinux  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[13:33] <serialinux> thanks
[13:36] <yerm> hi everybody re u know about distro from indonesia ?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !indonesian | yerm,
[13:36] <kpoman> hello to all. I would like to emulate a localhost smtp server by using ssmtp to relay to a gmail account I have. can someone tell me if this is possible and point me a how-to ?
[13:38] <yerm> yeah cfhowleet re u indonesian people?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> yerm, no.
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> kpoman  is that a server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server
[13:39] <yerm> why u can speak indonesian?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> yerm  we're people from all of the world
[13:39] <cfhowlett> yerm,  ubuntu speaks indonesian.
[13:39] <yerm> ooooo
[13:39] <yerm> oke baiklah
[13:39] <yerm> maksudnya
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> Q'plah!  <-- that's Klingon
[13:40] <teward> MonkeyDust: that's offtopic, but... spelling fail - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Qapla'
[13:41]  * somsip watches #ubuntu reach a new level of geekdom...
[13:41] <teward> anyone know of any applet that can effectively give me the IP address information of all active network interfaces that ifconfig would show?
[13:41] <teward> Ubuntu 14.04, it needs to work with
[13:46] <TJ-> teward: You mean "ip addr show" ?
[13:48] <ivan_on_trac> Because file copying by scp delay. At this point:   "Warning: Permanently added '<IP_ADDRESS>' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts."
[13:48] <gier_do> DammitJim: I wouldn't configure any swap at all, I think.
[13:49] <leeyaa> hello
[13:49] <__DiCe__> hi
[13:49] <gier_do> I only run a smaller server with 32G of RAM, and it never swapped so far, running ordinary server stuff
[13:49] <teward> TJ-: yes, but on a GUI thing I can just open and 'see' the information, rather than opening the command line to do that, and on a relatively frequent updating schedule
[13:49] <leeyaa> how to fix borked upstart when it detects wrong pid and hangs
[13:49] <leeyaa> without reboot
[13:50] <leeyaa> it just says tracd start/killed, process 14800 and there is no such pid
[13:50] <TJ-> teward: There are several minor network monitor applets but I wouldn't know which would suit you'd have to search and experiment. I prefer a terminal
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> teward  there's 'network tolls'
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> teward  there's 'network tools'
[13:55] <DammitJim> another point of discussion when one has a ridiculous server
[13:55] <DammitJim> if the server I am setting up has 1.8TB of hard drive space
[13:55] <DammitJim> should I still have separate partitions for root, home, opt, etc?
[13:55] <bekks> DammitJim: Sure.
[13:55] <DammitJim> I don't think I'll ever fill up this server
[13:56] <DammitJim> or is my "I don't think I'll ever fill up this server" a false assumption?
[13:56] <jjgygb> Hello Any know of a nice simple irc client, terminal or GUI.
[13:56] <DammitJim> at max, I think this guy will use 100GB of data
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> jjgygb  irssi is nice
[13:57] <TJ-> teward: How about using the existing Notification framework (notify-osd) but sending it a message from a monitoring script using notify-send (from package libnotify-bin)
[13:57] <cfhowlett> DammitJim, and "no one NEEDS a personal computer!  Only corporations will ever by one of these things!"
[13:57] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[13:57] <bekks> cfhowlett: "At most 5 of these will be ever needed." :P
[13:58] <cfhowlett> bekks, yep.  and I bought all of them!
 Thanks
[14:00] <philinux> jjgygb;~ i like hexchat
[14:01] <DammitJim> man, it sounds like regardless, I should have partitions "just in case," huh?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> DammitJim  is this useful   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[14:04] <jjgygb> philinux Thanks
[14:05] <DammitJim> not really, MonkeyDust
[14:05] <DammitJim> thanks, though
[14:06] <ivan_on_trac> The ubuntu clean the "/ tmp" every reboot. How do I change this behavior?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  you can't, that's RAM
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  you can copy /tmp to some other place of course
[14:07] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: This is particularly Ubuntu?
[14:07] <krasnayarsk> MonkeyDust: Can you symlink /tmp to some other place so it won't clean every reboot?
[14:08] <Zack1194> Hello, I have ubuntu 15.04 and i cant change resolution form 640x480 any help?
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> krasnayarsk  hard link, then not symlink... if the original is gone, the symlink is useless
[14:08] <krasnayarsk> MonkeyDust: Okay... thanks.
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> krasnayarsk  a hard link is a copy that changes with the original, but stays, even if you delete the original
[14:10] <ivan_on_trac> I think this will solve my problem: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-removes-files-at-boot-time/
[14:11] <DammitJim> what partition does one save data for serving content?
[14:12] <DammitJim>  /var ?
[14:12] <DammitJim> I was thinking /opt but it seems opt is used more for packages
[14:12] <DammitJim> or is it /srv?
[14:14] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: TMPTIME parameter in /etc/default/rcS
[14:18] <tdn> I have set up a LUKS encrypted /home on my Ubuntu 12.04. I have entered "none" in /etc/crypttab to indicate that I want the user to enter passphrase during boot. However, the Ubuntu Splash screen does not show the prompt, so it times out on mounting /home and asks user to skip or drup to shell instead.
[14:19] <tdn> How do I make Ubuntu show the LUKS prompt in the boot splash?
[14:20] <mcphail> DammitJim: anywhere you like. Traditionally, /var is mounted read/write and can be used for files which change frequently. Might be your best best. Debian/ubuntu default to using /var/www/htdocs for web content, as an example
[14:20] <mcphail> (or /var/www - can't really remember as I always change it...)
[14:22] <DammitJim> thanks mcphail ... all I know is that I have to change how people here think it should go under /home
[14:24] <mcphail> DammitJim: as long as whatever is serving the content can read it, it can really go anywhere
[14:24] <DammitJim> but I would think there is a "proper location" for it, right?
[14:24] <DammitJim> I hate home.... one has to change all kinds of settings to get samba to work properly
[14:25] <mcphail> DammitJim: depends on what distro or UNIX manufacturer you talk to. Certainly Debian tends to prefer /var, and Ubuntu inherits that
[14:25] <DammitJim> ok, then var it is!
[14:25] <DammitJim> thanks
[14:25] <mcphail> DammitJim: np
[14:25] <orion> Hi. If I buy a thunderbolt-to-HDMI cable, will it work with Ubuntu 15.04 on a MBP?
[14:25] <DammitJim> it's interesting that the installer mentions as a partition /usr and then /usr/local
[14:27] <mcphail> DammitJim: some poeple mount /usr read-only and /usr/local as RW. The distro shouldn't touch anything under /usr/local so the users/admin are free to put modified binaries etc there
[14:27] <DammitJim> yeah, the software I am installing goes on /usr/local
[14:27] <DammitJim> and configuration files I would need to edit go there
[14:27] <DammitJim> that's why I wanted to make that a separate partition
[14:28] <mcphail> DammitJim: sounds sensible
[14:29] <mcphail> DammitJim: remember if you mount /usr as RO, you have to remount RW before every apt-getting
[14:29] <DammitJim> what?
[14:31] <mcphail> DammitJim: if you follow the old-fashioned advice and have both /usr and /usr/local on separate partitions, mounting /usr as read-only and /usr/local as read/write, you have to remount /usr as read/write every time you use apt-get to update software
[14:31] <mcphail> DammitJim: but I'm probably confusing you now...
[14:34] <DammitJim> dammit
[14:34] <DammitJim> I'm going to just have a separate partition for /usr
[14:34] <DammitJim> I Hope that /usr/local is part of that instead of mapping to /root
[14:35] <mcphail> DammitJim: no - it will be under /usr
[14:46] <blib> how do I make sure gpsd starts at boot time?
[14:48] <knightyyy> Hi,I wanted to setup SFTP connection using my android device to my Ubuntu 15.04
[14:48] <vuurdraak> hi everybody, i have installed by hand an nvidia driver downloaded from geforce. com, when installing it complains it can't install the 32 compatibilty stuff of the driver, what do i need to do to get it installed ? i have a fresh install of ubuntu 14 lts 64 bit
[14:48] <knightyyy> but something cool occured,status: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[14:49] <bekks> vuurdraak: Why dont you use the nvidia driver shipped in the repos?
[14:49] <knightyyy> I am using default settings,systemd,and "ssh" metapackage
[14:49] <vuurdraak> uhm well because i'm used to use the latest nvidia driver from geforece.com :)
[14:49] <saadin> hi, i upgraded 14.04 to 14.10 then to 15.04, but after upgrading to 14.10 this happenned:
[14:49] <saadin> http://s6.picofile.com/file/8197327192/ubuntu15_04_desktop_glitch.png
[14:49] <saadin> upgrading to 15.04 didnt solve it
[14:49] <OerHeks> blib, "dpkg-reconfigure -plow gpsd" after setup, http://www.catb.org/gpsd/installation.html
[14:49] <vuurdraak> i guess i could try out the repo one
[14:50] <bekks> vuurdraak: Using Ubuntu, and Linux in general, you dont install "the latest and greatest" from every website :)
[14:51] <vuurdraak> <bekks> i had to use the nvidia driver in the past when using ubuntu 12 because my grafics card was not suported by the repo drivers
[14:51] <vuurdraak> and then stuck with it
[14:52] <vuurdraak> there seems no longer a gui to install drivers , what cli command should i use ?
[14:53] <OerHeks> vuurdraak, type 'driver' in dash and the tool should show up
[14:53] <vuurdraak> okidoki
[14:55] <vuurdraak> mmm , seems by installing the nvidia driver by hand has made it imposible to install another driver in the gui , all stuff is greyed out :'|
[15:00] <blib> OerHeks: Thanks. For some reason my gps won't give me any data
[15:00] <knightyyy> woops,sorry,seems like I was disconnected,my problem was that "ssh" metapackage available in ubuntu 15.04 repos requires upstart something that 15.04 doesn't run by default,any alternatives for installing something that gives me SFTP?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> knightyyy  sftp comes with openssh, that is installed by default
[15:02] <knightyyy> MonkeyDust,weird,I tried sudo apt-get install openssh and it told me that no such package existed.openssh-server was later installed by "ssh" metapackage
[15:03] <knightyyy> to get the error,I tried sudo status ssh,it told me status: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> command works here (14.04, that is)
[15:04] <vuurdraak> i'm going the xorg-edgers route
[15:05] <vuurdraak> going down for reboot, thanks for the tips & help all o/
[15:05] <ioria> KnightsOfNi, sudo service ssh status ?
[15:05] <ioria> sorry
[15:05] <ioria> knightyyy  sudo service ssh status ?
[15:06] <knightyyy> ioria: thanks,bad guide
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> ioria  no, it's the first command
[15:06] <knightyyy> active and running.hmm so my issue is from somewhere else
[15:06] <ioria> knightyyy  yup
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> ah, they both do the same
[15:07] <DammitJim> what enterprise - online backup software for baremetal restore do you guys use?
[15:08] <bekks> DammitJim: Symantec Netbackup.
[15:09] <DammitJim> does that install an agent on your linux box?
[15:11] <bekks> Of course.
[15:11] <OerHeks> I would use clonezilla
[15:12] <Ally_> Hello, I am having an issue with my wi-fi speed. It constantly says 1 bar of connection and takes a long time to connect. Anyone able to help with this?
[15:12] <DammitJim> online backups guys
[15:15] <chindy> my soundcard/headset is not working(only the sound microphone works fine) ...can anyone help? here are some screenshots of alsa-utils... http://www.twitch.tv/esl_csgo
[15:15] <chindy> http://i.imgur.com/PUyF8SX.png
[15:15] <chindy> http://i.imgur.com/PUyF8SX.png
[15:15] <OerHeks> what is wrong with the answers you got, DammitJim ?
[15:15] <chindy> this one haha the other is a stream!;)
[15:15] <DammitJim> I like the symantec
[15:15] <DammitJim> but not clonezilla 'cause one has to put the server offline
[15:18] <OerHeks> clonezilla-se server edition too ?
[15:19] <Ally_> Nobody knows anything about slow wifi issues?
[15:20] <OerHeks> Ally_, with one bar, i would say: find a better spot?
[15:20] <Ally_> I'm literally next to it
[15:20] <Ally_> Well above it
[15:22] <sipior> quit
[15:31] <tmtwd> how can I add shortcuts to the widgets?
[15:40] <meadhikari> guys I want to get how long a file has been open, how do i get that
[15:42] <polishpoliceforc> anyone know how to get keepnote to work as a user and not as root?
[15:42] <polishpoliceforc> somehow.... i lost permission to use it as a user and now it won't run unless i use root
[15:43] <EriC^^> polishpoliceforc: type sudo chown <your user>: ~
[15:44] <EriC^^> polishpoliceforc: type sudo chown -R <your user>: ~
[15:44] <EriC^^> it'll reset the ownership of the files
[15:44] <polishpoliceforc> sudo chown -R user1: ~
[15:44] <polishpoliceforc> ?
[15:44] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:44] <polishpoliceforc> ok
[15:44] <EriC^^> as your user
[15:44] <polishpoliceforc> not working still
[15:45] <EriC^^> do you know where it saves the files?
[15:45] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I run virtualBox in another xserver? (like TTY8)
[15:45] <polishpoliceforc> http://pastebin.com/Qy7CiAAg is the error that im getting when i try to run it
[15:45] <EriC^^> if you can run it as root, it's probably a permissions issue
[15:45] <polishpoliceforc> nvm i can't even run it as root
[15:45] <polishpoliceforc> it did work briefly... but now it doesn't
[15:45] <polishpoliceforc> im so confused
[15:46] <EriC^^> polishpoliceforc: it looks like a gtk issue
[15:47] <EriC^^> mojtaba: you'd have to login as a user and start an xorg session in tty8 then launch virtual box there
[15:47] <mojtaba> EriC^^: could you please explain more?
[15:49] <somebody> Good night. I am experiencing a rather weird issue: I have closed my Ubuntu One account after it stopped offering cloud storage, but my Launchpad account associated with it remains. How do I login into it?
[15:49] <somebody> There doesn't seem to be a way to opt-out of Ubuntu One identification and offer my usual credentials.
[15:50] <platzhirsch> Everytime I boot I get into emergency mode first, then I have to press ^D to boot the desktop. What can I do to analyze this?
[15:50] <hkl88> platzhirsch: Have you modified grub and can you pul grub up to boot?
[15:51] <platzhirsch> hkl88: no and I don't know
[15:51] <EriC^^> mojtaba: for instance, open tty2, login and type DISPLAY=:1 startx
[15:51] <hkl88> platzhirsch: This a dual boot?
[15:51] <platzhirsch> No
[15:51] <EriC^^> mojtaba: then press ctrl+alt+f8 and open a terminal and type virtualbox
[15:51] <EriC^^> mojtaba: you can probably refine it and use something other than startx so unity loads fully
[15:52] <platzhirsch> Isn't recovery mode different to emergency mode?
[15:52] <platzhirsch> Recovery mode for instance I find in the grub config /etc/default/grub
[15:52] <hkl88> platzhirsch: If you taping shift at powering on you should get grub. For it to just go to recovery there has to be a lead up to that.
[15:52] <mojtaba> EriC^^: I tried that one already, but I don't have unity fully loaded there. Do you know what should I do to have it fully loaded?
[15:52] <hkl88> you"re tapping*
[15:52] <platzhirsch> hkl88: yeah okay, and then what?
[15:53] <EriC^^> mojtaba: maybe look into the line that lightdm uses to start unity for a user
[15:53] <mojtaba> EriC^^: thank you very much. I will check it
[15:54] <hkl88> platzhirsch: Choose the main kernel, not recovery. You have to know to get help this has to be a two way conversation, if you can we need some context leading to this issue.
[15:54] <EriC^^> mojtaba: if you open a terminal and type unity
[15:54] <EriC^^> unity loads
[15:54] <platzhirsch> hkl88: Sorry, just a sec, I'll get you a screen grab, I know what you're talking about, but that emergency mode is a different one
[15:54] <platzhirsch> brb
[15:55] <mojtaba> EriC^^: nice, thx
[15:57] <gdfsaghh> Hello, I installed kernel 4.xx in kubuntu 14.04, how should I manage my app updates.
[15:58] <cfhowlett> gdfsaghh, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <Pazooza> Anybody using Password Gorilla?
[15:59] <darthanubis> he wants proper kernel upgrades
[16:00] <gdfsaghh> cfhowlett and what about sources.list it still lists things for Trusty or is that a separate issue from the kernel.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> gdfsaghh, separate issue
[16:01] <Mr777> Hello Ubuntu
[16:01] <asdasdas123213> hi Mr777
[16:02] <gdfsaghh> cfhowlett Thank you
[16:02] <Mr777> I am using empathy to connect with free node
[16:02] <cfhowlett> gdfsaghh, happy2help!
[16:02] <Mr777> But it auto disconnects me after some time
[16:02] <Mr777> I am new user of empathy so don't know how to make it work smoothly, any help or ideas?
[16:03] <avishv> use xchat
[16:03] <Mr777> I like empathy, so no solution to make empathy work instead installing xchat
[16:03] <Mr777> ?
[16:04] <meonkeys> is it safe to delete /boot/*generic.old-dkms files? (e.g. /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic.old-dkms )
[16:04] <cfhowlett> Mr777, xchat is abandonware.  consider hexcht
[16:04] <cfhowlett> hexchat
[16:04] <avishv> he likes empathy...