[15:26] <mimilus> hello
[15:27] <mimilus> I'm looking for something like gromit but with a little interface, whyteboard only works on his own board, did someone have an idea ?


[11:20] <frankban> rick_h: morning. I'll be out for 1-2 hours for doctor apt + lunch. jacekn (on #juju@canonical) asked for help in the deployment process for mjc and the gui, I mentioned you will be available in ~1 hour. Talk to you later.
[11:21]  * frankban bbiab
[11:21] <rick_h> frankban: rgr, getting it started thanks
[13:18] <frankban> rick_h: thank you! cool that the deployments went well
[13:18] <rick_h> frankban: yep, ok overall. Some small issues with the nagios support in the charm for cleanup but yay for release all the things!
[13:18] <frankban> \o/
[13:19] <frankban> rick_h: re: charm GET file from core.  do we need directory listing? I am thinking about finding the charm's readme
[13:20] <rick_h> frankban: *thinking if there's a way around it*
[13:23] <frankban> rick_h: the GET request will work like this: GET https://juju-core:17070/charms?url=local:precise/django-42&file=/path/to/file so we can support also something like file=/ and return a json with the directory contents. the only other possibility I can think of is enabling core to serve the zip as well (e.g. if you do not pass a file in the query)
[13:25] <rick_h> frankban: yea, we get around this in charmworld because we have the metadata and part of that is a list of files {{}
[13:25] <rick_h> frankban: if we only need it for the readme I'm tempted to say we just support README.md, I'm trying to find the charm author docs around readmes to see how they phrase it
[13:25] <rick_h> if they say use README.md then I'm all for the simple solution, at least for now
[13:27] <rick_h> frankban: yea guess we'll have to. They list out README, README.md, and README.rst as viable options
[13:28] <rick_h> frankban: what about just a missing file arg returns vs a /
[13:28] <rick_h> ?
[13:28] <rick_h> file= vs file=/
[13:29] <frankban> rick_h: to return the list of files in the root dir or the list of all files?
[13:29] <rick_h> frankban: oh hmm, we only need rootdir but api-wise it'd make sense to be all files. So B I'd think
[13:29] <rick_h> ic, so file=/ is more explicit on 'files in rootdir'?
[13:30] <frankban> rick_h: yes, it's what I was thinking. e.g. you can also do file=/hooks/
[13:31] <rick_h> frankban: I like the idea of file= returning all files in the charm. We've got the list available at that time correct? Then it's just one point to hit for an 'about' api call
[13:31] <rick_h> and let the client parse what part of the list they care about
[13:33] <frankban> rick_h: so we have two possibilities: 1) file is optional, and if not specified we return charms metadata (for now just the list of files). in this case, file=/some/dir/ returns a bad request or similar. 2) file=something can be used to list dirs. both make sense to me
[13:34] <rick_h> frankban: I like #1. The Gui then could fetch that once, cache the list of files, and use that for subsequent calls. So it's one extra call for local charms to have that data available aside from the actual file calls to load file contents
[13:35] <rick_h> frankban: and it acts more like the current charmworld where we could make that extra call, update the charm model files attr with it, and have it for the lifetime of that model in the model cache
[13:36] <rick_h> any negatives to it?
[13:37] <frankban> rick_h: it seems good to me. dimitern do you like the above? re charm GET files: basically we return a JSON list of charm files if the file query is not passed. how does that sound?
[14:05] <dimitern> frankban, sgtm, and if we need later to actually download the charm, we can add a separate argument
[14:05] <frankban> dimitern: cool thanks
[14:17] <hatch> rick_h are we going to get a flood of fix-released emails today? :)
[14:17] <rick_h> hatch: yep
[14:17]  * hatch gets his delete key warmed up
[14:17] <rick_h> hold on!
[14:18] <hatch> oh hey for like $20 you can dramatically reduce/remove that scratch on your suv btw
[14:18]  * rick_h grumbles about idiots that can't realize I park in the back of the lot to NOT have this happen...
[14:18] <hatch> lol
[14:19] <hatch> yep, go to NAPPA (or some car parts store) and pick up a bottle of 'fine automotive polish'
[14:19] <hatch> it should feel a little gritty on your fingers
[14:19] <hatch> grab a microfiber cloth and gently rub the scratch in a circular motion
[14:20] <hatch> 30mins later...that scratch will be gone, or at least very reduced
[14:20] <hatch> the picture was low res but it looked like it was just in the clear coat - if it was through the clear and into the paint then you're sol :)
[14:20] <rick_h> yea, we'll see.
[14:21] <hatch> don't rub to hard though, slow and steady wins the race else you will get swirls
[14:21]  * hatch has a makita power polisher and a bunch of polishes for his cars :)
[14:22] <hatch> ooooo shiny
[14:22] <hatch> http://ridirkculous.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/despicable_me_2_image_minions_1.jpg
[14:26] <hatch> ahhh there's that flood
[14:35] <hatch> rick_h re the bundle/charm keyword....can't we set a limit on the response and then paginate it?
[14:35] <hatch> having the search response take more than even .5s is not good
[14:35] <rick_h> hatch: not atm, maybe eventually. We don't have any pagination story and it's mainly for sales/demo where it can be prepped
[14:36] <rick_h> so having it (slow as can be) > not having it but doing it right isn't on the todo list atm
[14:36] <hatch> alright cool
[14:54] <hatch> rick_h any luck with your Air issue?
[14:54] <rick_h> hatch: yea, filed a kernel bug. If I set the number of cpus to 1 it boots
[14:55] <rick_h> but no wifi
[14:55] <rick_h> but the install live usb works
[14:55] <rick_h> so we'll see what happens with the kernel bug and I've got to get the latest nightly liveusb to try out
[14:55] <hatch> hmm think this will be fixed for 14.04?
[14:55] <rick_h> maybe
[14:55] <rick_h> that'll be the goal
[14:57] <hatch> you should update your question on AU
[14:57] <hatch> you can answer your own question
[14:57] <rick_h> I did
[14:57] <rick_h> well it's closed as not valid
[14:57] <hatch> ohh poop
[14:57] <rick_h> but I added the bug link to the top of the question
[14:57] <hatch> ahh ok /me refreshes
[14:58] <hatch> I bet the same issue will happen with the MBP's
[14:58] <hatch> so I guess I should track that bug
[15:10] <hatch> that bug to bind on only 443 is interesting
[15:50] <hatch> jujugui call in 10
[15:58] <Makyo> jujugui call in 2
[15:58] <rick_h> jujugui call in 2
[15:58] <rick_h> bah got me
[15:59] <Makyo> Uh, hm.  Going to need to switch laptops.
[16:03] <Makyo> Or maybe it's not the laptop.
[16:15] <Makyo> Seems to be just google services for me. Weird.
[16:17] <Makyo> Or just SSL.
[16:18] <Makyo> Maybe the NSA data center is slowing down.
[16:18] <rick_h> yea, little overloaded on monday
[16:33] <hatch> lol
[16:33] <hatch> frankban do you know how to make the zip lib throw an error so I can see what the response object looks like?
[16:34] <frankban> hatch: not sure, maybe passing a non-zip archive?
[16:34] <hatch> hmm yeah I can't even get there with a non-zip
[16:34] <hatch> maybe I don't need to do error handling this far in then
[16:37] <hatch> frankban ok so after I RTFS I found out that as long as it can 'read' the zip it won't error
[16:37] <hatch> so I'm pretty much going to ignore the error branch this far in
[16:37] <hatch> because I don't think it's possible to get this far in without it
[16:40] <hatch> well I'll just put a generic notification that there was a failure and console log whatever
[16:42] <frankban> hatch: +1
[17:18] <hatch_> yay I'm back
[17:19] <rick_h_> yay
[17:19] <hatch> I think it's time to call the telco and get me a new modem/router and go pick up a good one from the local comp store
[17:21] <rick_h_> network improvement always a good thing
[17:35] <hatch> too much for a home network? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833120672CVF :P
[17:36] <rick_h_> hah, never!
[17:36] <hatch> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320174
[17:36] <hatch> this one looks like it hits all the checkboxes
[17:59] <hatch> rick_h_ I can't seem to add a hangout link to the meeting
[17:59] <hatch> maybe I don't have permissions
[18:01] <rick_h_> hatch: invite on the way
[18:01] <rick_h_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi7f37lq4sjp5lar55lf06s?hl=en
[18:41] <frankban> dimitern: I guess it's EOD for you too, but when you have a chance (e.g. tomorrow morning), could you please take a look at https://codereview.appspot.com/67750045 ? it's the charms GET functionality. thank you!
[18:43] <dimitern> frankban, sure, i might even be able to look at it later tonight, but not sure - i have about 8 other reviews to do
[18:44] <frankban> dimitern: heh, thank you and have a nice evening
[18:46] <dimitern> frankban, cheers, same to you ;)
[20:15] <hatch> rick_h_ doc created and email sent
[20:16] <rick_h_> hatch: cool thanks
[20:16] <hatch> email re-the doc
[20:16] <hatch> :)
[20:16] <rick_h_> will go through it tonight. Need to get caught up from calls today for the moment.
[20:20] <hatch> ok np
[20:46] <hatch> I'm so confused
[20:46] <hatch> there are three new tests which have no assertions
[20:47] <rick_h_> hatch: lol, where is this?
[20:48] <hatch> oh I figured it out
[20:48] <rick_h_> cool
[20:48] <hatch> it was just stubbing with a done()
[20:48] <hatch> I missed the done's
[20:48] <rick_h_> ah, the fact that done hit is the test
[20:48] <rick_h_> right
[21:36] <Makyo> Woo video. Now it's a race to see whether my laptop takes off or sets my desk on fire while it renders.
[21:38] <hatch> lol!@
[22:55] <Makyo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVknLr1spPo - uploading raw file to U1 now.
[22:56] <Makyo> Looks like RMD stalled a little on some of the typing.  oh well.
[22:57] <Makyo> Saucy's been pretty bad about that, recently.  Can't play DVDs anymore.  Hoping some of that gets fixed in trusty
[23:04] <Makyo> lmk if I should hold off on posting it anywhere.
[23:04] <Makyo> rick_h_, etc ^^^
[23:08] <hatch> jujugui lf a review and (simple) qa on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/142
[23:08] <Makyo> On it.
[23:08] <hatch> Makyo watching
[23:08] <hatch> thanks
[23:09] <hatch> Makyo for some reason your video reminds me of the old 'nature' videos we used to watch in elementary school :D
[23:09] <Makyo> I'm no David Attenborough, alas.
[23:10] <Makyo> "And here we see the wild Quickstart.  *roar*"
[23:10] <hatch> lol
[23:13] <hatch> Makyo wow that wordpress demo is pretty rockin!
[23:15] <hatch> +9000 on that vid
[23:15] <hatch> how do you get the audio to be so clear and not hissy?
[23:15] <Makyo> A nice mic and a computer with an SSD :P
[23:15] <hatch> haha what mic are you using?
[23:16] <Makyo> http://bluemic.com/ I use the Yeti on a desk stand with a shock mount and a pop filter, but most of Blue's mics are pretty excellent.
[23:16] <Makyo> The Snowball is a good one for just audio.
[23:16] <hatch> ahh cool
[23:16] <hatch> I have an H4 mic that I've been trying to use to record some screencasts and they all come through garbage and hissy :/
[23:17] <Makyo> Analog?
[23:19] <hatch> http://www.conceptmusic.com.au/products/Zoom-H4N-Hand-Held-Digital-Recorder.html
[23:19] <hatch> so I don't know....maybe? :)
[23:19] <Makyo> Oh, a zoom.
[23:20] <Makyo> H4ns are supposedly really good.
[23:20] <Makyo> It's a PDR not a mic, though.
[23:20] <hatch> I tried to turn the sensitivity down too but then the levels in garage band are too quiet
[23:21] <hatch> I'm guessing I'm just missing something obvious
[23:21] <Makyo> Transom's got some good tips on using PDRs: http://transom.org/2009/zoom-h4n/
[23:21] <Makyo> I've not used mine for a screencast yet, though.
[23:22] <hatch> hmm I'll have to check
[23:23] <hatch> I think i have narrowed down my wifi issues to my MBP
[23:23] <hatch> son-of-a
[23:50] <Makyo> All I saw was: CI failure; "<hatch> son-of-a" "* hatch has quit"
[23:50] <hatch> lol
[23:50] <hatch> F&^% Apple
[23:51] <Makyo> Problems?
[23:51] <hatch> yeah they refuse to acknowledge that there is a problem with the wifi
[23:51] <Makyo> Boo!
[23:53] <hatch> for such nice hardware they sure make absolute shit software
[23:54] <rick_h_> heh, their wifi needs some love
[23:54] <rick_h_> whenever it sleept it takes forever to connect again
[23:54] <rick_h_> so much faster on my thinkpad
[23:54] <rick_h_> might as well reboot
[23:55] <hatch> rebooting to try a config hack I saw
[23:57] <hatch> yup that 'appears' to have fixed it
[23:57] <hatch> ugh
[23:58] <rick_h_> lol
[23:59] <hatch> I don't even know what the config changes do
[23:59] <hatch> https://discussions.apple.com/message/24959397#24959397


[00:15] <Bashing-om> \o/ Back up :D
[00:22] <krytarik> Ohooh! \o/
[00:27] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Thought this ole box had bit the dust this time - tech-in-a-can to the rescue - video card contacts :D
[00:28] <krytarik> Haha, yep definitely the lesser evil yet! >_<
[00:30] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Thought the worst when not even a bios boot screen came up :P
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 i always wonder is there cracked software for linux available and where
[00:32] <bazhang> libreoffice serial plz
[04:15] <bioterror> Opera was before
[14:45] <bazhang> irc2go :\
[15:26] <vibhav> ummm...Cananybody get ubottu to unignore me?
[15:26] <tsimpson> vibhav: why?
[15:27] <bazhang> which distro does not have pulseaudio by default installed
[15:27] <vibhav> tsimpson: Well, I am unignored on every channel except #-ot
[15:27] <vibhav> #u-ot
[15:27] <Fuchs> bazhang: gentoo has an useflag for it, so depending on what profile you choose ...
[15:27] <bazhang> Fuchs, heh. I mean supported ubuntu distros
[15:28] <Fuchs> ah, sorry :)
[15:28] <bazhang> hehe
[15:28] <bazhang> HURD probably does not have it either
[15:29] <Tm_T> HURD's not distro?
[15:30] <bazhang> debian HURD?
[15:31] <Tm_T> yeah, but that's Debian (:
[15:32] <tsimpson> vibhav: the bot will respond to you now, just remember not to abuse it
[15:32] <genii-around> !info crosshurd
[15:32] <genii-around> Hm
[15:32] <ikonia> what the devil is that
[15:32] <vibhav> tsimpson: thanks
[15:33] <bazhang> lubuntu apparently does not have pulse default
[15:33] <bazhang> or so the user 'write' claims
[15:34] <tsimpson> it's not part of the lubuntu task, so I guess it doesn't
[15:34] <ikonia> does it just rely on alsa ?
[15:34] <bazhang> but installing it fixed his audio, so all is well
[15:35] <tsimpson> probably does, though just about everything is compiled with pulse these days, so who knows how well it works
 i have ubuntu 12 on my phone lol
[15:59] <mneptok> i have Debian GNU/HURD on my Dreamcast roffle !!!!11!!one!!
 but can i install apps on different drive?
[16:17] <bazhang> seems to randomly repeating other's issues
[16:17] <bazhang> +be
[20:16] <Pici> jrib: whoops, I'll let you handle it.
[21:37] <jrib> interesting
[21:38] <bkerensa> AlanBell: botnet
[21:38] <tsimpson> 1 host is hardly a botnet
[21:39] <bkerensa> surprised freenode allows that many hosts to connect from a single hostname
[23:47] <IdleOne> jrib: was just about to do that exact same thing
[23:49] <jrib> now I forgot what I was doing :x


[01:32] <signifer123> hey
[01:48] <LinuxJones> hi
[04:00] <cyphase> hey everyone
[04:06] <DanielC> Yo. Does anyone know how to get the "face browser" on the LTSP login screen?
[04:06] <DanielC> I've tried using the GDM config tool without success.
[04:07] <DanielC> I think the kids would love it if they could click on their class instead of typing a name.
[04:07] <DanielC> (elementary school kids)
[05:43] [Laur(n=chatzill@<IP_ADDRESS>)]  hi
[09:18] <JeanG> daniel - get any further with the login screens?
[09:19] <DanielC> JeanG: I discovered that the thin clients are not using GDM at all :-(
[09:19] <DanielC> They are using what looks like a custom Gtk app.
[09:20] <DanielC> It's written in Pythong+Gtk+Glade.
[09:20] <DanielC> Python
[09:21] <JeanG> pythong - someting to wear to the beach?
[09:21] <DanielC> Python is a programming language. :-)
[09:22] <DanielC> I looked at the source code to see if I could edit it to make it have a nice background at least.
[09:22] <DanielC> But I just don't know enough about Python, or Gtk or Glade to make that change.
[09:23] <JeanG> and they say linux is easy;)
[09:23] <DanielC> hacking source code often isn't  :-)
[09:24] <DanielC> I don't understand why it can't use GDM like everyone else...
[09:25] <JeanG> maybe too much data for efficient thin client use?
[09:25] <DanielC> maybe
[09:25] <DanielC> that would make sense I guess.
[09:26] <JeanG> have similar trouble with MS remote desktop on a busy network
[09:26] <JeanG> time to poll out gigabit ;-)
[09:26] <DanielC> gigabit?
[09:27] <JeanG> err that should be roll out........
[09:27] <JeanG> ethernet on a busy network
[09:27] <DanielC> ok
[10:03] !lilo:*! Hi all. A channel has been set up for hurricane tracking; currently it's looking at Katrina. Please stop by ##hurricane if you're interested. Thanks.
[11:53] !lilo:*! Small non-main-rotation server split; about 500 users affected.
[11:53] !lilo:*! Most of those would be IPv6 users.


[02:42] <paultag> jacob: ddecator, lukjad, :D
[02:42] <paultag> jacob: ddecator, lukjad, Orangereds for you all
[02:49] <pedro3005> paultag, </3
[02:49] <paultag> pedro3005: you're not on reddit!
[02:49] <pedro3005> I am
[02:50] <paultag> Oh?
[02:50] <pedro3005> paultag, I am everywhere
[02:50] <paultag> pedro3005: well you're not on r/Ubuntu
[02:50] <pedro3005> look behind you
[02:50] <paultag> pedro3005: I just submited something and lukjad jacob and ddecator all ran into me
[02:53] <pedro3005> paultag, oh, right, I'm not
[02:53]  * pedro3005 starts stalking paultag
[02:53] <paultag> pedro3005: >:D
[02:53] <st33med> paultag!!!
[02:53]  * st33med man hugs paultag
[02:54] <paultag> hey st33med, long time no see!
[02:54] <st33med> Yes a long time :D
[02:54] <paultag> st33med: when did you get here>
[02:54] <paultag> erm ?
[02:54] <st33med> About a few days ago
[02:54] <paultag> st33med: you know we have #ubuntu-beginners-team, yeah?
[02:54]  * paultag huggs st33med
[02:54] <st33med> Oh, no
[03:03] <ddecator> paultag: yah i saw two of your posts :p
[03:06] <paultag_> ddecator, :)
[04:39] <DiegoTc> hi someone here
[04:39] <ddecator> hi DiegoTc
[04:40] <zkriesse>  hey DiegoTc
[04:40] <DiegoTc> hi ddecator I having troubles with my package gestor
[04:40] <DiegoTc> diego@diego-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:40] <DiegoTc> E: Tipo 'n' desconocido en la línea 2 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[04:40] <DiegoTc> E: No se pudieron leer las listas de fuentes.
[04:41] <zkriesse> DiegoTc: one sec
[04:41] <DiegoTc> okay
[04:42] <zkriesse> hmm
[04:42] <zkriesse> odd
[04:42]  * zkriesse used Google Translate
[04:44] <kermiac> DiegoTc: unknown line 2 in source list / etc / apt / sources.list.d / gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[04:44] <DiegoTc> yes I know
[04:44] <DiegoTc> I was trying to add the ppa of the ubuntu beta fonts
[04:44] <DiegoTc> https://launchpad.net/~diegoturcios/+archivesubscriptions/18183
[04:44] <kermiac> check line number 2 in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list - something is wrong with the syntax
[04:45] <kermiac> DiegoTc: can you please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[04:45] <DiegoTc> okay
[04:46] <DiegoTc> kermiac, http://pastebin.com/j9eUTbda
[04:52] <kermiac> DiegoTc: I can't access https://launchpad.net/~diegoturcios/+archivesubscriptions/18183
[04:57] <ddecator> ubuntu beta fonts are open to ubuntu members only. are you and ubuntu member DiegoTc ?
[04:57] <ddecator> s/and/an
[04:57] <zkriesse> he is
[04:58] <ddecator> jcastro gave instructions on how to add it, but idk where they are (i think they were in the email?)
[04:58] <kermiac> sorry, I cant help then :(  can someone who is a member please help
[04:58]  * kermiac eyeballs zkriesse
[04:58] <zkriesse> ok so what's going on?
[04:59] <kermiac> thanks missy piggy :P
[05:00]  * zkriesse kisses kermiac
[05:00] <zkriesse> gonna call me missy piggy i'm gonna kick your frog legs
[05:00] <ddecator> ...or are you going to kiss them?
[05:01] <zkriesse> ddecator: go back to your toys little boy
[05:01] <ddecator> zkriesse: i'm older than you >.>
[05:01] <zkriesse> heh
[05:01] <zkriesse> not by much
[05:04] <ubuntunoob> hello.  am i the right place to find a little help with a first time ubuntu install?
[05:04] <zkriesse> ubuntunoob: YES!!!
[05:04] <kermiac> gah, how dare you take advantage of me when I'm away zkriesse
[05:04] <ubuntunoob> great.  thanks.
[05:04] <mohi57o9> lol
[05:04] <zkriesse> lol kermiac
[05:04] <kermiac> anyway
[05:05] <kermiac> !ot | kermiac
[05:05] <ubot2> kermiac, please see my private message
[05:05] <zkriesse> !ot > zkriesse
[05:05] <ubot2> zkriesse, please see my private message
[05:05] <ubuntunoob> i am trying to install on a samsung nc10 netbook and am following directions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[05:05] <ubuntunoob> but my netbook will not boot from the USB drive
[05:06] <ubuntunoob> despite checking BIOS and seeing the entry for USB there in the first boot order position
[05:06] <zkriesse> you made the drive bootable right?
[05:06] <ubuntunoob> i am not sure what that means
[05:06] <ubuntunoob> how do i make it 'bootable'?
[05:07] <zkriesse> on that link, click the Show Me How button on step two
[05:08] <ubuntunoob> yes, i followed all of those steps under section two
[05:09] <ubuntunoob> section three indicates that i should see the welcome screen, which i am not seeing
[05:09] <ubuntunoob> this, i assume, is because it is not booting from the USB drive
[05:10] <ubuntunoob> i can't quite figure out how to make BIOS boot from there(drive E:/ on my machine)
[05:10] <kermiac> on your netbook, did you try pressing F9 to select your boot device
[05:10] <kermiac> ubuntunoob: it may not be "F9", it could be some other key
[05:10] <zkriesse> F12 i think
[05:11] <ubuntunoob> when i am in the boot menu in BIOS, there are several entries
[05:11] <ubuntunoob> entry #1 is USB
[05:11] <ubuntunoob> i think that means it is "selected" as a boot device
[05:11] <ubuntunoob> there is a section below the numbered section that lists the 'disabled' devices
[05:12] <kermiac> yes, that's what that means. sometimes that is unreliable
[05:12] <zkriesse> well do you press enter on the USB?
[05:12] <kermiac> ubuntunoob: have you tried using a different usb port?
[05:13] <ubuntunoob> you mean a different usb slot on the netbook?  i have not done that.  but the drive is recognized when i am booted in win xp so i am confident that the slot is functional.
[05:13] <ubuntunoob> is it possible that the boot order looks at a different slot on boot?
[05:14] <kermiac> no, if you are sure the usb port works then that's not the problem :(
[05:14] <ubuntunoob> hmm, i guess i need to play around with BIOS more
[05:14] <ubuntunoob> there are several entries that reference USB
[05:15] <kermiac> ubuntunoob: did you use the windows, osx or ubuntu method to make the drive bootable?
[05:15] <ubuntunoob> the windows method
[05:15] <kermiac> oh, what different entries do you have ubuntunoob? they are boot options in the bios, right?
[05:16] <ubuntunoob> yes, USB (something) is listed several times.  there are a couple of them but i am on that netbook now so i can't verify the screen  values.
[05:16] <ubuntunoob> and by something, i mean there are multiple, different entries listing USB first
[05:17] <ubuntunoob> i am considering disabling the HDD boot entry and only having USB entries
[05:17] <kermiac> ok, ubuntunoob perhaps the wrong one is selected. try using all of the different options to see if one of them works
[05:18] <ubuntunoob> ok, i guess it is back to BIOS for me
[05:18] <ubuntunoob> thanks for the help here
[05:27] <DiegoTc> kermiac, so you can't help me :(
[05:27] <zkriesse> DiegoTc: I asked what was wrong and you didn't answer me!
[05:27] <DiegoTc> zkriesse, sorry
[05:28] <zkriesse> it's ok
[05:28] <DiegoTc> I wasn't on the laptop
[05:28] <zkriesse> :D
[05:28] <zkriesse> no trouble
[05:28] <kermiac> DiegoTc: unfortunately I'm not an Ubuntu member so i don't have access to that ppa to see what's wrong. Zack is a member & he will try to help you
[05:28] <DiegoTc> zkriesse, I did this http://pastebin.com/462mcnyQ
[05:29] <zkriesse> ok and?
[05:29] <zkriesse> it didn't work?
[05:29] <DiegoTc> nop
[05:29] <DiegoTc> when I did the last step
[05:29] <DiegoTc> I got this message
[05:29] <kermiac> DiegoTc: 1024R/72D340A3 (What is this?) is the gpg key
[05:29] <DiegoTc> E: Tipo 'n' desconocido en la línea 2 de lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[05:30] <DiegoTc> kermiac, it is the OpenPGP key
[05:31] <kermiac> DiegoTc: I always confuse the 2 names. I just saw "(what is this)" & thought you were asking the question
[05:31] <kermiac> DiegoTc: so are you trying to add the gwibber dailly ppa or the ubuntu fonts ppa?
[05:31] <DiegoTc> the ubuntu ppa
[05:32] <zkriesse> hmm
[05:32] <zkriesse> you have to be invited to that i believe
[05:32] <zkriesse> at least i was
[05:33] <DiegoTc> zkriesse, yes I know I was
[05:33] <zkriesse> ok
[05:33] <kermiac> DiegoTc: are you sure that the file you paste-binned is /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list, not /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <kermiac> DiegoTc: it looks more like the sources.list file
[05:34] <DiegoTc> it is the /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <zkriesse> DiegoTc: did you run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-font-beta-testing/ppa ?
[05:34] <DiegoTc> nop
[05:34] <kermiac> DiegoTc: the error refers to  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list, not /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <kermiac> DiegoTc: please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[05:35] <DiegoTc> zkriesse, so I do this¿? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-font-beta-testing/pp
[05:35] <kermiac> DiegoTc: there is something wrong with line 2 in that file
[05:35] <zkriesse> kermiac: yeah i noticed that...
[05:36] <zkriesse> nhandler: ping RE: Private PPA
[05:36] <nhandler> Yes?
[05:36] <zkriesse> DiegoTc: ask nhandler your question
[05:36] <DiegoTc> zkriesse and kermiac ready
[05:36] <DiegoTc> I did it bad
[05:37] <zkriesse> now what
[05:37] <kermiac> DiegoTc: you fixed it? What was it?
[05:38] <DiegoTc> I didn't add the data to this /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gwibber-daily-ppa-lucid.list
[05:38] <zkriesse> that would do it!
[05:38] <zkriesse> so you fixed it DiegoTc ?
[05:38] <kermiac> DiegoTc: ok, that's good
[05:38] <DiegoTc> yes
[05:38] <DiegoTc> that was all
[05:38] <zkriesse> cool
[05:38] <zkriesse> great!
[05:39] <zkriesse> DiegoTc: see! Its awesome fixing stuff isn't it
[05:39] <DiegoTc> zkriesse, know what I do to download the fonts??
[05:39] <DiegoTc> yes!!
[05:39] <zkriesse> no idea
[05:39] <zkriesse> i haven't done it myself so....
[05:39] <DiegoTc> ohh
[05:40] <zkriesse> sorry DiegoTc
[05:40] <DiegoTc> okay
[05:46] <kermiac> DiegoTc: did you see http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/   - apparently the instructions should have been emailed to all Ubuntu members
[05:57] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: did you get the Ubuntu Font PPA working
[06:01] <duanedesign> wait mine might be working now
[06:10] <DiegoTc> duanedesign,
[06:10] <DiegoTc> duanedesign,  i did install the ppa
[06:10] <DiegoTc> but i can't get it
[06:11] <duanedesign> yeah i am not having much luck
[06:12] <ddecator> i know the PPA was down earlier because it was getting hammered
[06:12] <DiegoTc> :(
[06:14] <duanedesign> ddecator: you read some philosophy right?
[06:16] <ddecator> duanedesign: yes. i recently had a class on ancient philosophy, i don't know much modern
[06:17] <duanedesign> ddecator: ahh
[06:17] <duanedesign> ddecator: i am just looking for a new(philosophy) book to read
[06:18] <duanedesign> new as in new to me :)
[06:20] <ddecator> duanedesign: "The structure of scientific revolutions" by Thomas S. Kuhn (relatively recent, i think he's still alive or passed away just a few years ago)
[06:20] <duanedesign> ddecator: ahh good. I definetly have not read that one
[06:21] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: i found the package in synaptic
[06:21] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-private-nda-fonts
[06:21] <DiegoTc> whats the name¿?
[06:21] <ddecator> duanedesign: had to read it for my first philosophy class and write a paper on it. it's definitely interesting :)
[06:21] <DiegoTc> ready
[06:29] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: did you find it?
[06:29] <DiegoTc> duanedesign, yes ready
[06:29] <DiegoTc> I am using it :)
[06:29] <duanedesign> cool :)
[06:33] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: alright got it changed in my appearance panel
[06:33] <duanedesign> i dont have a printer hooked up to my Ubuntu computer to test printing it
[06:34] <DiegoTc> me too no printer at home
[06:34] <DiegoTc> :(
[06:34] <DiegoTc> duanedesign, can you open .docx well on openoffice¿?
[06:37]  * duanedesign is growing tired of this anti-canonical sentiment  http://lucidfox.org/posts/view/592
[06:38] <duanedesign> they dont mind taking advantage of all the benefits canonical has brought to linux....*sigh* i'll resist getting on the soapbox
[06:38] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: do you have a docx document? I am not sure i do
[06:39] <DiegoTc> yes one friend of mine send me his resume so i can take an idea to do my
[06:39] <DiegoTc> but i can't open it
[06:39] <DiegoTc> :(
[06:39] <DiegoTc> i am searching for some resume on google right now
[06:44] <steelsteve1> ok, whenever I make a new account, I get a php file
[06:44] <steelsteve1> what do I do with that in order to get a new account?
[06:45] <steelsteve1> using ubuntu 10.04, firefox 3.6, ect. ect.
[06:48] <duanedesign> steelsteve1: a new user account on your computer?
[06:48] <steelsteve1> no
[06:48] <steelsteve1> online
[06:49] <duanedesign> online where?
[06:50] <Steelsteve> devianart, otakucenter, normal places that use java to process these claims
[06:50] <Steelsteve> erm, javascript
[06:51] <ridin> how come in rhythmbox my mp3 player unmounts and rhythmbox just crashes after a few seconds, any help?
[06:51] <Steelsteve> just re-boot, it happens all the time
[06:53] <duanedesign> ridin: try launching rhythmbox from the Terminal and see if it gives you any useful eror messages
[06:53] <Steelsteve> I like my answer better -_-
[06:54] <Steelsteve> anyways, duanedesign, any suggestions on how to deal with the php files?
[06:54] <ridin> duanedesign, this was printed when rhythmbox crashed: Segmentation fault
[06:55] <duanedesign> Steelsteve: no i am not sure
[06:55] <Steelsteve> humm
[06:57] <ridin> so, no way to fix it??
[06:57] <duanedesign> ridin: anything right above tthat like
[06:57] <duanedesign> (rhythmbox:2751): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to
[06:57] <duanedesign> `RhythmDB'
[06:57] <ridin> ok, let me check again
[06:58] <ridin> yes
[06:58] <ridin> (rhythmbox:13515): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid unclassed pointer in cast to `RhythmDB'
[06:59] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: thanks for the ffmpeg tip. recompiled and works great. i even put your tip in my blog post
[06:59] <duanedesign> ridin: let me see if there is a bug on that
[06:59] <hobgoblin> oh cool - glad to be of assisance :)
[07:00] <ridin> i play the music from the mp3 player
[07:00] <duanedesign> ridin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/577756
[07:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 577756 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashes on insertion of samsung yp-u3 mp3 player (affects: 1) (heat: 56)" [Medium,Invalid]
[07:01] <duanedesign> ridin: i know that might not be your exact model mp3 player but it looks very similar
[07:01] <ridin> ummmm i'm not sure what to do
[07:03] <duanedesign> ridin: follow the steps in Pedros comments. That will open a new bug.
[07:05] <duanedesign> ridin: that will help someone who knows a lot about rhythmbox see your issue.
[07:06] <ridin> ok duane, i'll check on it tomorrow, gotta go night.
[07:07] <duanedesign> ridin: good luck
[07:09] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: so where's your blog then?
[07:11] <duanedesign> hobgoblin:  should be up by tommorrow :)
[07:11] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: oh - the blog's not live yet then or are you just talking about the one with ffmpeg?
[07:14] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: i had a couple other posts to get up so i ran out of steam 90% of the way through the ffmpeg post
[07:14] <zkriesse> heya's duanedesign and hobgoblin
[07:14] <duanedesign> http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog
[07:14] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: thanks :)
[07:14] <hobgoblin> morning zkriesse
[07:14] <zkriesse> :D
[07:16] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: its gonna be a neat post. I was having a poor time making screencasts using RecordMyDesktop and some of the other tools. I 've got a script that uses ffmpeg, pacat, parec
[07:16] <duanedesign> to make screencasts and it works really well.
[07:17] <hobgoblin> excellent :)
[07:17] <hobgoblin> I assume that x11grab was not enabled then
[07:19] <duanedesign> nope. I would not have guessed it. You definetly saved me some time
[07:19] <duanedesign> i guess it is not enabled by default?
[07:20] <hobgoblin> lucky for you I saw you're post - I just had a quick search :) don't mistake me for someone who knows much about ffmpeg
[07:20] <duanedesign> i was assuming my commandline-fu wwas wrong
[07:21] <hobgoblin> seems to be enabled by default on mine - at least I assume it to be as the ffmpeg -formats shows it
[07:21] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: http://lucidfox.org/posts/view/592 what a load of tosh
[07:21] <hobgoblin> jorge thought the same ...
[07:22] <duanedesign> interesting. well, that is why i devoted a couple sentences and a screenshot to figuring out if your ffmpeg is x11grab enabled
[07:23] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: yes i am glad he responded to the post
[07:23]  * hobgoblin agrees with that
[07:24] <duanedesign> are you running maverick yet hobgoblin
[07:26] <duanedesign> there has been a recent design descision to put an Ubuntu One enable/disable banner across the top of every directory in your $HOME
[07:28] <duanedesign> some of us who are close to the U1 project are trying to get that changed. I can already here the contreversy
[07:30] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: I never use it
[07:31] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: no - I am not going to be bothering with maverick I think - I have all 3 machines here on lucid - I shall probably be waiting for 13.04 now
[07:31] <hobgoblin> then I can REALLY complain about all the changes :D
[07:32] <hobgoblin> to be honest most of the changes I've seen/read about have been windicators/'me' stuff and it bores me :)
[07:33] <duanedesign> good idea
[07:33] <duanedesign> and they are planning to backport the kernel now
[07:33] <hobgoblin> that will be good for some I would think
[10:19] <kaushal> hi
[10:19] <kaushal> is there a way to run the log4j appender at a specified time and not as usual midnight ?
[10:21] <kaushal> I did searched http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/apidocs/org/apache/log4j/DailyRollingFileAppender.html
[10:21] <kaushal> dont see the option
[12:14] <duanedesign> mornning all
[12:15] <philinux> o/ just gone arbo here
[12:56] <Goolie> hello world!
[12:56] <philinux> The world is quiet today !
[12:56] <paultag> Hello, World!
[12:57] <Puck`> hi guys
[12:57] <Puck`> (:
[12:57] <paultag> sup Puck` :)
[12:57] <Puck`> good good, at work as usually (:
[12:57] <paultag> You and me both, just got in
[12:57] <paultag> I have some nice oatmeal, and a kickass cup of coffee
[12:57] <Puck`> :D
[12:57] <Goolie> i wish i was working, being unemployed is actually boring. . .
[12:58] <Puck`> Goolie: yeah, definetly
[12:58] <paultag> Goolie: yeah
[12:58] <Goolie> i have never used IRC before either, being unemployed let's me play around with many things tinkering is fun!
[12:58] <paultag> :D
[12:59] <philinux> Goolie: can be very hard unemployed, sympathies
[12:59] <kaushal> can some one please guide me about my post on ubuntu mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-July/222568.html
[12:59] <Goolie> yep, there goes the rent! xD  but in my spare time I switched over to Ubuntu 10.04 and i'm loving it xD
[12:59] <Puck`> Goolie: while i was unemployed for 8 months, I started learning php and got myself more in to linux and ubuntu, helped me lots
[13:00] <paultag> I made 7000 lines of changes to one of my projects in a week where I had no job
[13:00] <Goolie> haha, that's exactly what im' doing, i was reading up more on the shell & shell scripting yesterday heh
[13:00] <paultag> that's 1000 lines a day. Hell yeah
[13:01] <Goolie> haha, nice!  i've never actually worked on my own project of any sort, i learned PHP, and some other languages in school but I never learned them to the level where I can make my own projects i guess. =[
[13:01] <paultag> where did you go to school Goolie?
[13:02] <Puck`> it's fun when you have your own project, makes you move on, even if you work, helps you take your mind of things, I have a radio project of my own (:
[13:02] <paultag> Puck`: o'rly?
[13:02] <Puck`> paultag: you didn't hear about it yeT? I run an online radio station (:
[13:02] <Goolie> I did 3 years at New Jersey Institute of Technology, lost my financial aid because I was 1 credit behind. =[  Planning on going back in a year or so,
[13:02] <paultag> Puck`: w00t!
[13:02] <paultag> Goolie: awww, shucks
[13:02] <Goolie> IT major
[13:02] <paultag> Goolie: Are you from Jersey?
[13:02] <Goolie> Mhm
[13:03] <paultag> Goolie: whereabouts?
[13:03] <Puck`> paultag: come on, you're jokin' rite? Every BT member (ok, most active on irc) know about my hobby projecT :P
[13:03] <paultag> Puck`: no, really
[13:03] <Goolie> Montclair
[13:03] <paultag> Puck`: give me a link
[13:03] <paultag> Goolie: Humm, don't know where that is. I have two friends right by new york -- I'm from Boston -- YANKEES SUCK!
[13:04] <Puck`> paultag: while things are really messed up now because i changed things, here are a couple of links, main site: http://xtradio.org, to listen go to http://listen.xtradio.org and click on open popup window, or add http://stream.xtradio.org:8181/live in your favorite player or http://stream.xtradio.org:8181/live.ogg
[13:04] <Goolie> lol, mets fan here, i'd root for boston anyday.  I used to live in Clifton, hrm, I'm pretty dang close to the city myself
[13:04] <paultag> Goolie: sec, let me find out where
[13:05] <paultag> Puck`: is it offline?
[13:05] <Goolie> your music made me cringe
[13:05] <Puck`> paultag: no, i'm listening to it now
[13:05] <Goolie> but the website IS very nice =P
[13:05] <paultag> Puck`: wtf, can't hear frak
[13:05] <Puck`> Goolie: haha well the music part is ... optional :P
[13:05] <Puck`> paultag: where did you try?
[13:06] <Goolie> the 1st link
[13:06] <paultag> Puck`: I tried the live.ogg, both through chrome, firefox and mplayer
[13:06] <Puck`> paultag: open http://listen.xtradio.org on chrome and hit the Open Popup Window
[13:06] <Puck`> and listen in there
[13:06] <Goolie> i used the first link in firefox and pressed the first link tab that said listen
[13:06] <Goolie> and voila!
[13:06] <Puck`> :D
[13:07] <paultag> Puck`: grrr. still bombing
[13:07] <Puck`> ):
[13:07] <paultag> Puck`: let me try and work out the issue
[13:07] <Puck`> paultag: wait, is the port 8181 blocked therE?
[13:07] <paultag> Goolie: Millburn, NJ
[13:07] <paultag> Puck`: I don't think so
[13:08] <Puck`> paultag: mmm *thinks*
[13:08] <Puck`> paultag: http://london.xtradio.org:8080/
[13:08] <Puck`> click on m3u os xspf and open it in something
[13:08] <Goolie> no idea where millburn is, but i've heard of it! haha
[13:08] <philinux> http://stream.xtradio.org:8181/live.ogg this works fine here
[13:09] <paultag> Puck`: something has to be wrong. I see  output off mplayer, but no sound. Might have something up that should not be
[13:09] <kaushal> can someone guide me about the post on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2010-July/222568.html ?
[13:09] <paultag> sec Puck`
[13:09] <Puck`> kaushal: i checked that and i have no clue about disk space :\
[13:09] <Puck`> philinux: thx for the feedback
[13:09] <Puck`> paultag: must be something on your network
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: not network
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: I see mplayer throwing off sound
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: it's a configuration issue
[13:10] <Puck`> that's so not right, ogg should work anywhere
[13:10] <Puck`> let me setup a html5 player for you
[13:10] <Puck`> sec
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: no no, it's OK
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: it's a config issue, I'm sure of it
[13:10] <paultag> Puck`: somewhere something is muted
[13:11] <philinux> kaushal: post a thread in general help forum
[13:12] <Goolie> I'd help, but I switched over to Ubuntu 3 days ago.  And I've spent days on the forums trying to set-up things I liked. Heh.
[13:12] <kaushal> philinux: where ?
[13:12] <philinux> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[13:12] <kaushal> ok
[13:13] <Puck`> http://listen.xtradio.org/paultag.html
[13:13] <Puck`> altho it doesn't load in chrome because it's not .mp3 at the end of the mountpoint
[13:13] <paultag> pops up Puck`, but nothing. Sec -- Switching to my netbook
[13:13] <Goolie> question, as I'm new to IRC I see paultag and Puck, when you respond to one another or myself, it seems to be directly specified to myself such as <+paultag> Puck' : how do you direct it in such a way?
[13:13] <Puck`> hmm alright
[13:14] <paultag> Goolie: start typing a name, and hit tab
[13:14] <Goolie> paultag: hello
[13:14] <Puck`> Goolie: it's because of our clients, I just do pa<tab> and write the message
[13:14] <paultag> Goolie: Hello!
[13:14] <Goolie> Puck`: hello!
[13:14] <Puck`> Goolie: hi to you too :P
[13:14] <paultag> Goolie: it also highlights the message to let people know you are talking at them
[13:14] <Goolie> awh, i feel like a big kid now
[13:14] <paultag> :D
[13:14]  * philinux Is a big kid
[13:14]  * phillw is a big kid :-D
[13:15] <Puck`> Goolie: it helps with the communication, you can see the messages that were directed to you
[13:15] <paultag> heyya philinux, phillw
[13:15]  * Puck` is a small 6'5 kid
[13:15] <phillw> hiyas everyone :-)
[13:15] <Goolie> oh no, not Kanye West, why would your radio do this to me?
[13:15] <Puck`> hahaha
[13:16] <Puck`> it's keri hilson, ok? :P
[13:16] <paultag> Puck`: I have it working on the netbook
[13:16] <Puck`> paultag: oh good!  I have some serious underground tracks
[13:16] <philinux> Goolie, http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[13:16] <Puck`> paultag: you want electro? I have a wonky elektro mix i can put on (:
[13:17] <paultag> Puck`: who's on it?
[13:17] <Puck`> paultag: umm i dunno, it was done by a friend of mine from the uk
[13:17] <Goolie> philinux: thx for the IRC beginner link, will read now!
[13:17] <philinux> kaushal, How do you mean
[13:17] <kaushal> I mean any search type ?
[13:17] <Puck`> paultag: one sec, i'll start it (: It's more of a tech-house type, dunno if that's the elektro you're looking for
[13:17] <kaushal> I mean if i need to check for the answer to my question ?
[13:17] <Goolie> Puck`: meh, pretty much a taste of everything, predominantly rock, metal, and that stuff, older stuff, Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Poison, etc.
[13:17] <paultag> Puck`: let me youtube a band I love
[13:18] <Puck`> Goolie: oh, we have rock sessions too and 80S section (:
[13:18] <kaushal> Do i need to remember the entire URL ?
[13:18] <philinux> kaushal, use the search button bottom option Find all your posts
[13:18] <Puck`> I'll put up a schedule soon on the site, i was just really really busy with the features
[13:18] <Goolie> Puck`: DIRECT me to said stations please!
[13:19]  * Goolie Waves Hello!
[13:19]  * Goolie is amused.
[13:19] <Puck`> paultag: wonky elektro on (:
[13:19] <Puck`> Goolie: oh, it's on this station, only it's during special hours
[13:19] <paultag> Puck`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPallS7LMlE <-- check this frak out
[13:20] <Puck`> paultag: i'm at work, i can't youtube :\ Gimme a title and artist please
[13:20]  * philinux Goolie is now not a newbie
[13:20] <paultag> Puck`: Flying Lotus -- Robo Tussin
[13:21] <Goolie> Puck`: haha, tell me what times and this electronic music, is . . . strange to me
[13:21] <paultag> Puck`: it's by this dude who remixed some lil'wane
[13:21] <paultag> Puck`: there is some more dirty electro-pop-rock that I have
[13:21] <paultag> I have about 50 gigabyts of underground tracks
[13:22] <Puck`> haha, now that's an amount :D
[13:22] <Puck`> we only have 40 GB'S of music on our backup
[13:22] <Goolie> bah, Azeroth is calling me =(
[13:22] <paultag> Puck`: I love music
[13:22] <Puck`> paultag: oh yes, check the stream name, it sais: XTRadio - We Love Music! Do You?
[13:23] <Puck`> that's our slogan :P
[13:23] <paultag> Puck`: I noticed :)
[13:23] <Goolie> Puck`: is that a group project or something you just decided to do?
[13:24] <philinux> kaushal: Just do a search Find All Your Threads. Thats the easiest way
[13:25] <Puck`> Goolie: well I've been a DJ/Presentator on live stations for nearly 6 years now, and 2 years ago I decided I want to learn how it's all done, so i started making a radio, then more people joined me, gave me resources, servers, mirrors and patience, so now it's a group with djs and music lovers. I mainly started this to learn how to do a professional radio from only one linux server
[13:25] <Puck`> or a professional sounding radio station, yeah, that's more like it :P
[13:26] <Goolie> Puck`: Awesome man,  works great, I'm still listening to it. . . It's trippy.
[13:26] <paultag> Goolie: it's great to program to
[13:26] <Puck`> Goolie: when there are live shows, well then it's the time when it gets all crazy
[13:26] <paultag> Goolie: trance makes you focus into stuff
[13:27] <Goolie> i am focused, its makeing my WoW experience infintely less boring O.o
[13:30] <Puck`> so if you guys wish, i can put a show with me in that was previously made
[13:30] <Puck`> and after that i'll let you guys listen to whatever (:
[13:30] <philinux>  test
[13:30] <Puck`> test works
[13:31] <philinux>  red test
[13:31] <Puck`> it's still white
[13:31] <philinux> red here
[13:31] <Puck`> guess it's irssi then (:
[13:31] <paultag> philinux: that will work if I set -c
[13:31] <philinux> ctrl k plus a number from 1 to 16
[13:32] <paultag> philinux: if you are trying to color text over irc
[13:32] <paultag> philinux: the channel blocks it
[13:32] <philinux> Yah mine comes up light grey here very hard to read
[13:32] <Puck`> philinux: what client are you on?
[13:32] <philinux> xchat
[13:33] <philinux> I assume there's something in settings ;)
[13:33] <Puck`> i'd point at xchat color settings
[13:33] <paultag> ctrl + k
[13:33] <paultag> IIRC
[13:33] <paultag> I think ctrl+k 1 foo
[13:33] <philinux> test
[13:34] <Puck`> that's for mIRC too, but yeah, the chan might block it
[13:34] <paultag> it does Puck` :)
[13:34] <philinux> Changed the forground and it still grey
[13:34] <paultag> Puck`: we set it to block color
[13:34] <Puck`> ah okay
[13:34] <philinux> dsjhkjhk
[13:35] <philinux> dang this light grey is annoying
[13:35] <philinux> Try this
[13:35] <philinux> bold
[13:39] <geirha> The +c channel-mode is the one that blocks color iirc.
[13:39] <paultag> yeah Goolie
[13:39] <paultag> erm geirha
[13:39] <paultag> geirha: long time no see. How goes?
[13:40] <cprofitt> paultag: is the procedure with bugs to unassign them when they are complete?
[13:40] <paultag> cprofitt: no
[13:40] <paultag> cprofitt: you mark them complete
[13:40] <geirha> Oh, I just keep lurking in here; striking when you least expect it :)
[13:40] <cprofitt> k
[13:40] <paultag> geirha: :)
[13:40] <Puck`> stoping the wonky mix, a show is coming up
[13:40] <Puck`> dunno if anyone is listening
[13:40] <paultag> Puck`: heh, yeah -- this track is Nintendocore
[13:41] <Puck`> :D
[13:41] <paultag> Puck`: or "Chiptune"
[13:41] <cprofitt> paultag: I do not see a complete, just fix released... is that what you mean?
[13:41] <paultag> cprofitt: fix commited --> "bleeding edge" fixed | fix released --> "stable release has the code in it"
[13:41] <Puck`> paultag: beware, the voice is me :P
[13:41] <paultag> cprofitt: so if the problem is fixed and live, set it to fix released
[13:42] <Puck`> it's just a re-broadcast, so it's not live
[13:42] <cprofitt> and leave assigned still?
[13:42] <cprofitt> Zach was removing the assignment and making them assigned to nobody
[13:42] <cprofitt> thought that was weird, but wanted to confirm
[13:42] <paultag> cprofitt: yeah, leve assigned
[13:42] <paultag> cprofitt: don't unassign
[13:42] <paultag> cprofitt: that makes it hell to figure out who did what
[13:42] <cprofitt> k
[13:44] <cprofitt> thanks - I had not take one that far so was not sure.
[13:44] <cprofitt> thanks for the assist
[13:44] <paultag> you got it
[13:49]  * geirha tries Puck`'s radio
[13:51] <geirha> Only techno and trance?
[13:52] <darknemesis> mmm dont you think that NORTHUMBRIA Police,  if they haven't found Raoul Moat By Sat, double the reward from 10k to 20k & call it a Raoul-over
[13:52] <paultag> darknemesis: Ha!
[13:52] <paultag> darknemesis: I was just reading up about that
[13:52] <darknemesis> :@)
[13:53] <Puck`> geirha: oh no, it's mixed (:
[13:53] <Puck`> but this is house, vocal house, i just can't play music everyone likes unfortunately ):
[13:54] <philinux> Puck`: Have you got to pay royalties etc
[13:54] <Puck`> philinux: of course
[13:54] <geirha> I'm more into jazz, classical and rock
[13:54] <philinux> Thought so do they get much per track played
[13:54] <Puck`> philinux: thankfully my country hasn't really leaped in this section, so it's not much
[13:58] <Puck`> geirha: for example the current track, it makes me move, the sound of it is cool, is some ways funny
[13:58] <Puck`> same with the lyrics, it's just happy and funny, this is what makes me feel good (:
[13:59] <Puck`> but i do know and understand that music flavour is not up to debate, everyone is totally different
[14:04] <philinux> Puck`: The default volume is quite high lol
[14:07] <sw0rdfish> Puck`:
[14:14] <vu1kan> Is there some way to determine whether or not synaptic is indexing a particular repo?(in this case a ppa) cause I'm not seeing the packages i should in synaptic...i think I'm going to have to pull 'em down manually(no big deal, it would be nice to have this ppa work, i have a previous ver. through a different ppa), it appears to be updating when i hit the reload button or when i <apt-get update>, but i'm still not seeing the packages in synapt
[14:16] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get update should show you a list
[14:17] <geirha> In a terminal, do   apt-cache policy <package-name>
[14:17] <geirha> Do you see the newer version listed?
[14:21] <vu1kan> apt-get update looks like it's working fine, everything resolves as it should...i even trimmed my repos down to just the ppa for troubleshooting; when i apt-cache policy it shows the older ver. that i already have installed, could this be a serverside issue?( pastes of both commands: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ffcdGrW5 )
[14:22] <philinux> vu1kan: did the ppa install correctly?
[14:22] <philinux> Maybe use ppa purge and redo it
[14:23] <vu1kan> i had to use an alternate keyserver, but other than that, it seemed to
[14:23] <vu1kan> philinux:  in fact, i think you recommended the alternate keyserve
[14:23] <paultag> what ppa vu1kan ?
[14:23] <geirha> Is the ppa listed in System -> Admin. -> Software Properties -> [Third party]
[14:23] <paultag> wait nvmd
[14:23] <paultag>  BRB
[14:24] <vu1kan> http://ppa.launchpad.net/loell/ppa/ubuntu
[14:25] <vu1kan> this is the only issue i've had with ubuntu, so far, that wasn't five minute fix...i think i'm gonna have to compile it myself, and i haven't done that for anything yet
[14:26] <philinux> Is this for gyachi
[14:27] <vu1kan> yep, it works for txt, i just want to get voice; is this the wrong channel?
[14:27] <philinux> https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa
[14:28] <philinux> I would use ppa purge then use add-apt-reposiitory and make sure it install ok
[14:29] <geirha> It only have lucid packages for 64-bit
[14:31] <geirha> «gyachi   two weeks ago Failed to build:  i386»
[14:32] <vu1kan> well, according to the gyachi thread at ubuntuforums, the karmic 32 packages work for lucid...could my issue be that the ppa's tagged to lucid and only pulling the failed 32 packs?
[14:33] <geirha> There'll be no packages of failed builds, and it won't try to grab packages for older releases
[14:34] <geirha> So until the package maintainer fixes the build, I guess you'll have to download the karmic package manually, or try to build the package yourself.
[14:35] <vu1kan> couldn't i just change the distro tag (in the software sources 3rd party)from lucid to karmic?
[14:36] <geirha> Not sure how it would handle that, but it might work.
[14:38] <vu1kan> well, i'll give that a shot, and if it doesn't work i always knew the day would come when i'd have to roll up my sleeves and figure out how to compile; thanks for the help folks, i'll pop by and let ya know how it goes.
[14:41]  * Goolie tips his hat and falls asleep.
[14:42] <geirha> sudo apt-get build-dep gyachi; apt-get source gyachi
[14:42] <geirha> Change to the source dir, and run debuild
[14:45] <vu1kan> MaRk-I in #ubuntu already shot this at me: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eZY5H48h ...would your suggestion accomplish the same thing?
[14:47] <geirha> No, my instructions will download the source of the deb package, and build a new package which you can then install with dpkg -i
[14:48] <vu1kan> oh, ok...i think i've learned just enough to get myself in trouble if i don't take it slow
[14:48] <geirha> If you follow the other instructions, you won't get a deb package, and you may not be able to uninstall it again later.
[15:03] <vu1kan> ok, so apt-get build-dep gyachi returned errors: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/WQPvnZrQ , apt-get source did initally as well, but i apt-get install dpkg-dev, and it resolved....do i need to apt-get each of the unmet dependencies?
[15:10] <geirha> Hm. Odd.
[15:11] <geirha> apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev
[15:12] <vu1kan> unable to locate, should i pull it down?
[15:12] <geirha> ..!
[15:13] <geirha> Have you wiped your sources.list?
[15:13] <vu1kan> all i did before was uncheck them in the gui tool
[15:13] <vu1kan> i've since rechecked all of the official ones and the ppa
[15:14] <geirha> Oh, don't do that! recheck all the standard ones; main, universe, restricted, multiverse
[15:14] <vu1kan> that's what i mean, those repos are currently enabled
[15:14] <vu1kan> i just disabled them to troubleshoot the ppa
[15:15] <geirha> Ok, did you run sudo apt-get update after re-enabling them?
[15:15] <vu1kan> i don't remember...i've been at this for like 6 hours...but i just did
[15:16] <geirha> Try the build-dep command again then
[15:16] <vu1kan> same error as my most recent pastebin
[15:16] <geirha> Oh, and also make sure lucid-updates and lucid-security are enabled (they're in the updates tab)
[15:17] <vu1kan> forgot those...once again with the update, and build...
[15:18] <vu1kan> ah ha...it's going
[15:19] <geirha> :)
[15:26] <vu1kan> so, next you said to cd to the source dir, and run debuild; where should i expect the source dir to be, and should i remove the gyachi packs i have installed currently before i do that?
[15:26] <vu1kan> er...disregard the last half...i'm generating a deb...i can remove them before installing that
[15:27] <vu1kan> *facepalm... it's in ~
[15:29] <philinux> o/ http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2010/05/battery-applet-for-gnome.html
[15:29] <philinux> Anyone used this applet?
[15:31] <geirha> vu1kan: Yeah, apt-get source downloads to the current dir
[15:40] <vu1kan> it puttered along for a good three-five min and gave error: cannot find include file gpgme.h ...i tried to apt-get install gpgme to no avail.  where would i go from here?
[15:44] <geirha> find /usr/include/ -name gpgme.h
[15:46] <vu1kan> returned: /usr/include/gpgme.h ;should i re-debuild?
[15:47] <geirha> It's there, so there's something "wrong" with it. At least according to gyachi
[15:47] <geirha> Do you need GnuPG with gyachi?
[15:47] <geirha> The guy from ubuntu suggested you build without it.
[15:48] <vu1kan> i'm not sure, what does it do?  if it's webcam, i can safely ignore it
[15:48] <geirha> *#ubuntu
[15:48] <geirha> gnu privacy guard. Encrypition stuff.
[15:49] <vu1kan> bah...i'm not doing anything but keeping up with ppl cross country...we don't discuss financial info or anything
[15:50] <geirha> Well, we can see if it helps disabling it at least.
[15:50] <philinux> vu1kan: Is kopete any good these days?
[15:51] <geirha> From the source dir, edit debian/rules
[15:51] <vu1kan> my understanding was that it couldn't do voice
[15:51] <philinux> Ah
[15:52] <philinux> Looks dev stopped August 3rd 2008 no news after that date
[15:53] <geirha> And add --disable-plugin_gpgme as a configure flag
[15:53] <geirha> Pastebin the debian/rules file if you're uncertain how
[15:55] <vu1kan> is this correct: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/q1q1dU2m ?
[15:56] <geirha> Almost. you need to escape the previous line with a \
[15:56] <geirha> \ at the end of a line means "line continues on next line"
[15:56] <vu1kan> i was thinking that, but i've only coded in autoit and html
[15:57] <geirha> Then save and run debuild again
[15:58] <geirha> And then the usual praying to local god(s) etc. ;)
[15:58] <geirha> wait, debuild -us -uc
[15:59] <geirha> Don't bother if you already started it
[15:59] <geirha> But you'll get a warning at the end that it didn't manage to sign the package
[15:59] <vu1kan> aw...already sent it flagless...oh well
[15:59] <vu1kan> wait and try again, i guess
[15:59] <vu1kan> ...need more coffee...
[15:59] <geirha> The warning is harmless, just annoying ;)
[16:00] <geirha> If it completes, there should be .deb package(s) in the parent dir
[16:01] <vu1kan> if it works you can have my firstborn...puppy...
[16:12] <vu1kan> would that error be 'running debsign failed'?
[16:13] <geirha> Yes
[16:14] <geirha> ls ../*.deb
[16:14] <vu1kan> wooot!...now to remove the old ver and test this one!  if it works, could i conceivably throw the .debs at someone else to use the newer version?
[16:15] <vu1kan> it's got all three packs i already have installed
[16:15] <vu1kan> newer versions, of course
[16:15] <geirha> sudo dpkg -i ../*.deb
[16:18] <vu1kan> aww..."errors were encountered while processing\ ../gyachi_1.2.9-0.1~lucid1_i386\ gyachi-dbg"
[16:20] <vu1kan> pastebin(if it helps): http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/JUFTuTPq
[16:24] <geirha> Hm. debuild didn't create a gyachi-plugins package?
[16:26] <vu1kan> nope, just /gyachi_1.2.9-0.1~lucid1_i386.deb, /gyachi-data""1_all.deb and /gyachi-dbg''1_i386
[16:27] <vu1kan> *i386.deb
[16:28] <geirha> Hm. Perhaps they've changed it in the later version to put the plugins in the -data package.
[16:28] <geirha> Or actually the main gyachi package
[16:28] <geirha> Try uninstalling the current gyachi-plugins package
[16:31] <vu1kan> removed...repeat the install?
[16:32] <geirha> Yes dpkg -i ...
[16:32] <vu1kan> echo rawks
[16:33] <vu1kan> completed without errors
[16:34] <vu1kan> i launches, and it does look like the plugins were included elsewhere
[16:34] <vu1kan> *it
[16:36] <geirha> \o/
[16:38] <vu1kan> knuts...it still gives 'sh: gyachivoice: not found' when i try to use the vox
[16:38] <vu1kan> i think that's shortcoming of the proggy
[16:45] <vu1kan> well, i've got the source now, i can poke through the readme's and see if there's something useful there...i'm under the impression that the voice part is a separate executable from the chat, maybe i need to do something to those files to make 'em work
[16:48] <vu1kan> holy s***...i just doubleclicked the 'gyachivoice' file in the source and it launched the bloody vox app!
[16:48] <vu1kan> i was expecting install instructions, or a readme!
[16:55] <vu1kan> and it works!  thanks bunches...+2 wisdom, +10 karma for geirha!!
[16:55] <geirha> Wohoo! level up!
[16:56] <hobgoblin> lol
[16:56] <vu1kan> so i should be able to pass the .debs to my buddy and get her rigged for vc too?
[16:56] <vu1kan> (as long as i include the voice bit
[17:01] <Phrea> is there a way to find out what state my mouse is in, working wise? scrolling up is very troublesome [it sometimes works, sometimes not, driving me nuts]
[17:02] <philinux> Phrea: how old is it
[17:02] <Phrea> also, I forgot the command to check mouse workings
[17:03] <Phrea> philinux: a few years
[17:03] <Phrea> not that old, maybe 2 to 3 years old [Logitech Wave]
[17:03] <philinux> Phrea: nothing lasts for ever
[17:03] <Phrea> it used to work fine
[17:03] <Phrea> yea, but 2 to 3 years...
[17:03] <philinux> Heavy use?
[17:03] <geirha> vu1kan: Yeah, as long as your friend's running 32-bit lucid too
[17:03] <philinux> Is it optical
[17:03] <Phrea> and the strange thing is, it sometimes does want to scroll, if I scroll long enough, it'll suddenly work again for a few secs
[17:04] <Phrea> philinux: heavy use, it's laser, wireless
[17:04] <philinux> Phrea: could be interferanec
[17:04] <Phrea> yes, I've thought of that, so I eliminated that
[17:04] <Phrea> it's really strange behaviour
[17:05] <philinux> Phrea: try it on a friends machine
[17:05] <Phrea> I've got lots of own machines
[17:05] <philinux> If it's the same it likely dying
[17:05] <Phrea> I'll try it in a bit on another one
[17:05] <Phrea> I hoped it would not come to that, because I'm a bit of a lazy *** ;)
[17:06] <philinux> It professionals always recommend swapping kit around
[17:06] <Phrea> oh well, I'll boot up one of my other machines then :x
[17:06] <Phrea> philinux: I know...
[17:06] <vu1kan> indeed she is...now to figure out the directory struture and cp the voice into it...*runs to google/sourceforge*...again thank you geirha (btw you mind if i edit the transcript and post directions to ubuntuforums?)
[17:06] <philinux> Got to it
[17:06] <Phrea> but, you know, I thought maybe it was something known
[17:06] <Phrea> gheh
[17:06] <Phrea> I'll try it now, have to boot that machine anyways to update it
[17:06] <Phrea> brb
[17:08] <geirha> vu1kan: Go right ahead. You might get some useful corrections to it too.
[17:09] <geirha> I'm fairly novice when it comes to packaging. Haven't rtfm yet ;)
[17:10] <Phrea> grrr, I should've stuck with trying to figure it out via software tests
[17:10] <Phrea> now I *know* it's dieing
[17:11] <Phrea> and these modern mice, you can't open them to have a look/clean it out
[17:13] <hobgoblin> it's a throw-away world now :(
[17:13] <geirha> I miss taking out the ball, cleaning the dust off the wheels the ball turn, and putting it back together again.
[17:13] <Phrea> I know, but other Logitech stuff you can still take apart
[17:14] <Phrea> maybe this mouse too, if the screws are under it's feet, but then the feet won't stick anymore
[17:14] <geirha> I'd take it back to where I bought it and get it fixed. In my country, they'd have to do that for free if it's less than 5 years old.
[17:14] <Phrea> geirha: too much hassle for just a mouse
[17:15] <Phrea> I'm used to fixing things myself
[17:15] <geirha> Then don't buy laser mice :P
[17:15] <Phrea> but, you know, those feet, once removed, will NEVER stick back to it
[17:15] <Phrea> the laser itself is fine, I love it
[17:15] <Phrea> it's the scrollwheel that's the problem
[17:15] <Phrea> eveyrthing else works perfectly [including scrolling down]
[17:17]  * Phrea has a sad now
[17:19] <hobgoblin> Phrea: turn the mouse round 180 degrees to scroll up ... ;)
[17:20] <Phrea> actually, I did do some track tests, to see what I use more: scrolling up or down, to maybe swap the direction...
[17:20] <Phrea> it doesn't matter too much
[17:27] <zkriesse> hello aganice
[17:32] <philinux> Phrea: New mouse then eh
[17:33] <Phrea> I should've not tested it on another box, at least then I could pretend it was some kind of strange software problem
[17:33]  * philinux in denial
[17:34]  * Phrea spends half his life in denial
[17:34] <Phrea> works quite well, I must say
[17:34] <philinux> LOL
[17:38] <Phrea> sir, please, respect my sad
[17:40] <philinux> ;(
[18:13] <paultag> mathayyyyyy
[18:19] <drubin> paultag: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:19] <paultag> drubin: :)
[18:23] <stlsaint> MMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
[18:34] <stlsaint> mohi1: why you takling about bt in zenix channel?
[18:35] <mohi1> stlsaint: was supposed to type in PM :P
[21:45] <xsaiddx> hello
[21:46] <xsaiddx> uys i cant ead any cd on my lubuntu i dont kno why
[22:41] <stlsaint> xsaiddx: screw cd use usb! :D
[22:42] <xsaiddx> stlsaint: yes i agree but i have a some tuts of joomla on this dvd
[22:42] <xsaiddx> so yeah
[22:42] <xsaiddx> i guess the cd got blow up
[22:42] <xsaiddx> is there any utility to get the data from it
[22:45] <stlsaint> xsaiddx: you just cant read it?
[22:45] <stlsaint> xsaiddx: is it a cd or dvd?
[22:46] <xsaiddx> yes icant read it its a dvd
[22:47] <stlsaint> have you installed your codecs from medibuntu?
[22:47] <xsaiddx> stlsaint: what codec ?? and no i didnt
[22:48] <stlsaint> xsaiddx: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[22:48] <pedro3005> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:48] <pedro3005> xsaiddx, try running that
[22:49] <xsaiddx> i run it
[22:49] <xsaiddx> its a repo right ??
[22:49] <xsaiddx> ye ok i read it : |
[22:50] <xsaiddx> guys ill go dinner while this thingy got downloaded okies and thanks for your help : |
[22:50] <xsaiddx> have great weekend
[22:50] <xsaiddx> ill brb
[22:50] <phillw> btw, of us gave up with MPlayer and put VLC onto lubuntu
[22:52] <stlsaint> phillw: good job!
[22:52] <stlsaint> vlc rocks better anyway!!
[22:52] <zkriesse> bug 602097
[22:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 602097 in banshee (Ubuntu) "When launching banshee it crashes [SIGSEGV signal] (affects: 1) (heat: 2948)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602097
[22:52] <zkriesse> guys have any idea what this might be caused bye?
[22:52] <zkriesse> person in #ubuntu is having that issue
[22:56] <xsaiddx> im back : |
[22:56] <xsaiddx> yeh i used to have vlc
[22:56] <xsaiddx> i jst didnt install it
[22:57] <xsaiddx> i guess i ve crushed on Mplayer
[22:57] <xsaiddx> so what am i downladin ??
[22:57] <xsaiddx> can you guys tell me
[22:58] <pedro3005> it's codecs
[22:58] <pedro3005> so you can run stuff like mp3, dvds, etc
[22:59] <xsaiddx> pedro3005: yeh i see i read that gstreamer somewhere else when iwas tryin to work my webcam
[23:00] <xsaiddx> pedro3005: and those codecs are only in mediabuntu repo ??
[23:00] <pedro3005> xsaiddx, yes, they don't replicate packages
[23:00] <xsaiddx> pedro3005: okes thanks
[23:01] <xsaiddx> pedro3005: but medibuntu its not on my source list ??
[23:02] <xsaiddx> i've checked softwar-source and i dnt see it
[23:02] <pedro3005> xsaiddx, you can add it
[23:02] <pedro3005> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[23:02] <xsaiddx> yehi kno but how i am able to dl sumthin from a repo that i dont have
[23:02] <xsaiddx> u got me ?
[23:04] <pedro3005> you will add the repo
[23:07] <phillw> xsaiddx: just so as every one knows, my self and Bob from lubuntu have never gotten Mplayer to work, we have both spent some time on it & put VLC on instead - it works fine with lubuntu.
[23:08] <phillw> implayer is fine with flash vids.... but as for vids.... do let me know if you get it working :-)
[23:08] <xsaiddx> phillw: ill install it now cus after dl those codecs still cnnot ead my dvd thingy
[23:09] <phillw> xsaiddx: it is happy in lubuntu, there was a discussion on such things - but lubuntu is not really for people with enough resources to play DVD's, never mind having a dvd player :p
[23:10]  * phillw that came out all wrong - what i meant to say is that it does not assume, nor include stuff for playing dvds
[23:11] <xsaiddx> phillw: ok i see btw how you do that thingy (puttin the start in the place of ur name : D)
[23:11] <xsaiddx> i've been wonderin how but never find out
[23:13] <phillw> xsaiddx: that's because I'm not a member of the ubuntu beginners team.
[23:14] <phillw> you have to be elected by the committee.
[23:14] <xsaiddx> yeh but peole do it in othe rooms even there not from the team
[23:14] <xsaiddx> includin u
[23:15] <xsaiddx> now
[23:15] <xsaiddx> well i jst wanna kno how to put a star at the place of my name at sometimes for some msgs
[23:15] <xsaiddx> like when u say doin it or sumthin
[23:15] <xsaiddx> u kno
[23:16] <phillw> oh, you mean when it does
[23:16]  * phillw hi
[23:17] <phillw> just type in /me at the start of the line (leave a space) then your message
[23:17] <xsaiddx> phillw: yes
[23:18]  * xsaiddx yes this thingy
[23:18] <phillw> you got it :-)
[23:18] <phillw> just do not over use it ;-)
[23:18] <xsaiddx> tnx for the tip btw cannot read my dvd tho
[23:18] <xsaiddx> even with vlc
[23:22] <xsaiddx> uhmm magiclly it work now
[23:22] <xsaiddx> well guys have fun and good weekend
[23:22] <xsaiddx> pece out
[23:22] <xsaiddx> phillw: tc
[23:24]  * phillw hands #ubuntu-beginners from #lubuntu back to you ... sorry about that, I should have asked him to pop back over :-\
[23:25] <phillw> thanks for not shouting :-)


[01:23] <zul> heylo
[02:29] <psusi> why can I never get the latest snapshot patches to apply to the latest stable release from kernel.org?
[02:31] <crimsun> 15-git12 to 15.1 ?
[02:31] <psusi> yea
[02:31] <crimsun> well, no doubt 15-git12 already has the backported parts in 15.1
[02:33] <psusi> well what did they diff against to get the 15-git12 patch?  that's what I should be applying it to
[02:33] <crimsun> 15
[02:35] <psusi> how annoying.... you'd think if they only provide the latest snapshot as a diff, it would be a diff against the latest stable
[02:38] <crimsun> it used to be listed as usch
[02:38] <zul> BenC: new crack for you
[02:46] <psusi> thank god... finally got all the patches on... now hopefully it compiles this time
[12:42] <mjg59> BenC: Can we grab http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi4asus/ ?
[02:58] <zul> helo
[03:10] <chmj> hey zul
[04:41] <zul> BenC: did you do a pull yet?
[09:12] <Abecedarian> Hello.  By any chance could somebody here answer a few questions on booting and the linux kernel, particularly as it relates to having a linux kernel loads modules and executse the linuxrc?
[09:19] <Abecedarian> Okay, I guess that I
[09:20] <Abecedarian> Okay, I guess that I'll assume that this is the wrong place to ask about booting and the kernel's ability to run a linuxrc script.  If anybody with the proper expertise comes back and reads that, *please* message me.
[09:28] <crimsun> Abecedarian: ...linuxrc?
[09:38] <Abecedarian> Yeah.
[09:39] <Abecedarian> I've read that it is a script that a kernel can run immediately after loading.
[09:40] <Abecedarian> So if you stick the kernel on a bootable cd with the proper linuxrc script, it might be able to run the linuxrc script which tells it to load modules/drivers, scan for usb devices, and then change root over to them.
[09:40] <Abecedarian> The two guides that I've been using are http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html and http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t269145.html ...
[10:00] <zul> you might want to check the linux from scratch site
[10:01] <Abecedarian> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ...  Thanks!
[10:09] <Abecedarian> zul:  Thank you very much for your advice!
[10:09] <Abecedarian> Is there any Ubuntu-specific documentation that are a must-read?
[10:20] <crimsun> you probably want to keep current with udev
[10:20] <crimsun> cf. Scott's post to ubuntu-devel-announce regarding hardwareactivation and udev [replacing hotplug]
[10:22] <Abecedarian> ?
[10:22] <crimsun> regarding scanning for devices, etc.