[00:02] <mkargar> whats best graphic driver for install on kubuntu?(my graphic is Gforce 6800 GT)!?
[00:09] <noaXess> mkargar: the restricted nvidia.. it should be automatically choosed
[00:11] <mkargar> noaXess:it's not automatically choosed!I want download and install driver from nvidia.com!not problem?
[00:12] <noaXess> not that from nvidia.. use that from restricted driver manager
[00:13] <genii> !nvidia
[00:14] <noaXess> on my notebook i have the nvidia-glx-new installed and i'm very happy.. also with nvidia-settings
[00:14] <mkargar> noaXess:it's not worked for me!!
[00:16] <noaXess> hm..
[00:16] <mkargar> noaXess:this is errors since of installed nvidia-glx-new:http://paste.ubuntu.com/25804/
[00:21] <noaXess> mkargar: that not really good.. hm.. i'm not really the specialist for X..
[00:23] <noaXess> have you tried the other, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy
[00:23] <mkargar> noaXess:oh!i want download and install driver from nvidia.com!how it?
[00:24] <noaXess> mkargar: okay.. why not.. i think if you compile/install it you have the correct kernel modules and driver..
[00:26] <noaXess> so i'm off.. need some sleep.. good lck mkargar.. if i can help later.. i will do.. bye
[00:26] <mkargar> noaXess:I want install it....
[00:27] <mkargar> noaXess:good night:)
[00:28] <genii> mkargar: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_173.14.09.html
[00:29] <mkargar> genii:ok brother!I downloaded it for my 64bit system!:)
[00:29] <genii> mkargar: For 64 bit is different...1 moment
[00:30] <genii> mkargar: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia64_1.0-5336
[00:31] <mkargar> genii:ok!i downloaded it:)
[00:31] <mkargar> i installing it...
[00:36] <anom01y> how do I reinstall alsa from scratch ?
[00:39] <anom01y> !alsa
[00:40] <anom01y> hello?
[00:41] <anom01y> cool I guess I have to reinstall kubuntu just to get alsa to work, wonderful
[00:41] <epimeth> anom01y: not necesarily
[00:41] <epimeth> anom01y: what's the problem?
[00:42] <anom01y> well its been wrekced for 2-3 weeks noone knows how to help me
[00:42] <epimeth> anom01y: whats wrong?
[00:42] <anom01y> I origionally set it up having 2 cards in the computer
[00:42] <anom01y> (set up = install kubuntu)
[00:42] <anom01y> since then I have removed a card, and now I am trying to use the onboard
[00:43] <anom01y> it works sometimes, and some other's it half ass works, now its not working at all
[00:43] <anom01y> and I havent done anything to cause this except reboot the computer
[00:44] <anom01y> but if I reset it might work, although it might half ass work too, as kmix sometimes only shows half of the available volume control knobs, and the maximum volume is not very high
[00:44] <epimeth> anom01y: have you tried blacklisting the one you removed?
[00:44] <anom01y> I dont know, I tried alsaconf, and that didnt work
[00:45] <anom01y> how do I blacklist the other card ?
[00:45] <epimeth> anom01y: offhand, I don't know... give me a minute
[00:47] <anom01y> wow alsa magically started to work ???????
[00:47] <ign0ramus> anom0ly: what does the command " sudo asoundconf list " report?
[00:47] <anom01y> I just ran alsaconf again and for some reason it worked ?
[00:48] <ign0ramus> anom01y: lets make sure you have the right sound card set as default
[00:48] <epimeth> ign0ramus: awesome... *you* help him :-)
[00:48] <anom01y> VT82xx is the only card reported
[00:48] <epimeth> my sound card problems took a long time to fix ;-)
[00:48] <ign0ramus> i'll try... i had problems of my own!
[00:49] <ign0ramus> anom01y: then run "sudo asoundconf set-default-card NAMEOFYOURCARD "
[00:49] <ign0ramus> type it exactly as it is reported in the previous command
[00:50] <anom01y> ok thats done
[00:51] <ign0ramus> ok, finally restart sound server: "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[00:52] <ign0ramus> now, next time you login, your .conf settings will pull from that card
[00:52] <ign0ramus> i have an external Soundblaster hooked up to my stereo in my basement, and switch between that and the onboard in the lappy all the time
[00:53] <ign0ramus> cd players are the past.  Hooking up Amarok to your home stereo is awesome
[00:53] <offset> Does anyone know how to blacklist a module when trying to boot from the livecd?  It keep stalling with "[ #####.##] ohci1394: fw-host0: physical posted write error".
[00:56] <offset> I've tried "ohci1394.blacklist=yes" but it doesn't work, and neither does "Boot_Debug=3"
[01:06] <sean_> When I put a KFormula into KWord it shows up very small. When i try to resize the frame, The Frame size increases, but the Formula stays the same size. How do I resize this formula?
[01:08] <brian_> how do i get the normal kde calculator?
[01:08] <brian_> is it not come standard with kde
[01:11] <Jsn0327> is there a support channel for wine other than the one that is invite only?
[01:42] <paul_> yo
[01:45] <Rioting_pacifist> i have a drive that parted seams to freeze on how can i wipe the entire thing (including partition tables) or fix it?
[01:46] <paul_> format
[01:46] <Rioting_pacifist> but how do i do that when i cant read the partition table mkfs?
[01:47] <paul_> one
[01:47] <paul_> that for win
[01:48] <paul_>  i just start lin yesterdy
[01:48] <Rioting_pacifist> ah well i have no windows installs, but ive managed to start formating the drive anyway
[01:49] <paul_> how like h
[01:49] <Rioting_pacifist> brian_: theres speedcrunch and the pannel calcultor too
[01:50] <paul_> try 2 find a part manager
[01:51] <Rioting_pacifist> i tried qtparted and gparted but they both relly on parted as a backend which is having problems because i unpluged the computer during an install so the partition table is wrong
[01:52] <paul_> try 2 reinstall linx and it so give u some options on that
[01:54] <Rioting_pacifist> the installer wouldnt work with the driver, i dont think its smart enough to deal with my mess up
[01:55] <paul_> wha driver
[01:55] <Rioting_pacifist> *drive
[01:55] <paul_> u have windows cd
[01:55] <paul_> xp
[01:56] <paul_> if u have xp u can del parts
[01:57] <mneptok> Rioting_pacifist: tried parted?
[01:58] <Rioting_pacifist> no windows cds, parted just freezes up taking all the cpu
[01:58] <genii> Rioting_pacifist: How about fdisk ?
[01:59] <paul_> try
[01:59] <paul_> it
[01:59] <mneptok> !enter > paul
[02:01] <GS3User> how do i increase the number of desktops in kde4?
[02:03] <TopAgent> how would I get on a local social chicago west suburbs type of chat channel
[02:03] <dr_Willis> google ?
[02:03] <TopAgent> i want to chat locally
[02:03] <administrator_> how do I find the chat rooms by topic
[02:03] <dr_Willis> check out the bazillion yahoo/msn chat rooms perhaps?
[02:03] <dr_Willis> !channels
[02:04] <TopAgent> na.. yahoo is nothing but sex bots
[02:04] <dr_Willis> makes ya wonder who the bots are talking to
[02:04] <paul_> hentai
[02:04] <administrator_> hate yahoo
[02:05] <TopAgent> all I know is I cant talk to a live person.. I hate yahoo too
[02:05] <paul_> god does
[02:05] <paul_> hate yahoo
[02:05] <TopAgent> now that says something
[02:05] <administrator_> before i am finished logging in to a room i get hit up 4 times from bots
[02:05] <paul_> it does
[02:06] <TopAgent> I cant stand it... so where does a person go to just have friendly live chat?
[02:06] <dr_Willis> a local bar? :)
[02:06] <paul_> cleaveland
[02:06] <KalThaeden[EK]> IRC is one of the only types of chat that aren't plagued by bots. At least in more channels than elsewhere.
[02:07] <dr_Willis> there mahy be some irc servers with regional channels.. but other then google.. no idea where to look,.
[02:07] <administrator__> hey
[02:07] <administrator__> sup guys
[02:07] <KalThaeden[EK]> whats going on?
[02:07] <administrator__> not much you
[02:07] <KalThaeden[EK]> not much
[02:07] <administrator__> let me change this stupid nick
[02:07] <administrator__> wait a sec
[02:08] <paul_> no one wait 2 talk
[02:08] <KalThaeden[EK]> i know, i was just working on something
[02:08] <Flashdofu> alright
[02:08] <Flashdofu> back
[02:09] <Flashdofu> so what u guys up to
[02:09] <KalThaeden[EK]> that seems a bit better.
[02:09] <Flashdofu> damn there is like 5000 people here
[02:09] <dr_Willis> i see 266 in here
[02:09] <paul_> how do i play a dvd
[02:09] <dr_Willis> 1175 in #ubuntu :)
[02:09] <dr_Willis> !dvd
[02:10] <KalThaeden[EK]> yep, you usually cannot access #ubuntu at http://java.freenode.net because there is a few thousand there at least.
[02:11] <dr_Willis> and not one xxx bot!
[02:11] <Flashdofu> lol
[02:11] <Flashdofu> i was just kidding willis
[02:11] <Flashdofu> there is just a lot of people here
[02:11] <Flashdofu> its my first night on my own Linux
[02:12] <Flashdofu> i have used it at work and everything but at home I had a windows and a mac
[02:12] <Dillizar> how to install the new firefox
[02:12] <dr_Willis> new? Hardy has firefox 3 in the repos.
[02:12] <dr_Willis> was there a update recently?
[02:12] <KalThaeden[EK]> yes
[02:12] <Flashdofu> i just downloaded it with firefox 3
[02:13] <KalThaeden[EK]> the one distributed was a beta release, you should be able to download via adapt
[02:13] <KalThaeden[EK]> or download directly
[02:13] <KalThaeden[EK]> via browser
[02:13] <Dillizar> dr_Willis: i have d/l the fire fox 3 and i dont know how to install it
[02:13] <dr_Willis> i imagine any updates will hit the repos in the near future.    the final release was in the repos as of a few weeks ago..
[02:13] <KalThaeden[EK]> what file format did it come in?
[02:14] <KalThaeden[EK]> tar.gz?
[02:14] <dr_Willis> if you just want FF3 final. its in the repos . just apt-get update/upgrade i THINK will get it.
[02:14] <dr_Willis> Theres no need to download it from the firefox websites..
[02:14] <dr_Willis> Lets check the version....
[02:14] <dr_Willis> !info firefox-3
[02:14] <dr_Willis> !info firefox
[02:14] <KalThaeden[EK]> i just got it out of the repos via adapt installer
[02:15] <dr_Willis> Mine says version 3.0 here.
[02:15] <Flashdofu> alright so what should i try in linux?
[02:15] <KalThaeden[EK]> under about?
[02:15] <Flashdofu> can we hack something with this :P
[02:15] <dr_Willis> KalThaeden[EK],  yes.
[02:15] <dr_Willis> !hack
[02:15] <Flashdofu> lol
[02:15] <KalThaeden[EK]> I know, i didn't mean to put that as a question.
[02:15] <dr_Willis> Flashdofu,  to learn how to use VIM :) its fun and profitble!
[02:15] <dr_Willis> :)
[02:16] <dr_Willis> Regular Expressions! shell scripting...
[02:16] <KalThaeden[EK]> OpenOffice is a great replacement to Microsoft Office.
[02:16] <dr_Willis> Or just play with the tools and make some icons.
[02:16] <KalThaeden[EK]> Download games with Adapt Installer, there is a ton.
[02:17] <dr_Willis> RocksNDiamonds is a must get game. :)
[02:17] <dr_Willis> !info rocksndiamonds
[02:17] <KalThaeden[EK]> Virtually everything is open-source unless you are using the libdvdcss codecs or ati/nvidia card drivers
[02:17] <dr_Willis> PySol also a must get.
[02:18] <KalThaeden[EK]> hmm.....
[02:18] <dr_Willis> well libdvdcss is open sourced.. i think.. :) but of sort of a grey-legality area. heh
[02:18] <KalThaeden[EK]> if you like any of the Mario games from n64 console, there is tuxcart and a few others.
[02:18] <dr_Willis> Slune is a fun driving/cart game also.
[02:18] <Cheezwhiz> Alright guys.  Question.  I just installed Kubuntu for the first time on a machine with a GeForce FX 5700LE and can't figure out how to get the correct driver.  I attempted to do it through the hardware driver manager, but it didn't take.
[02:18] <KalThaeden[EK]> right, only in the US is it not open-source. it depends on the country.
[02:19] <dr_Willis> Well its still open sourced.. :) just not legal to have.
[02:19] <KalThaeden[EK]> it didn't take with nvidia driver (new)?
[02:19] <Cheezwhiz> For some reason no
[02:20] <Cheezwhiz> I just restarted again and now my resolution is all out of whack.  Essentially I'm trying to get Compiz working as a way to kind of feel my way around the OS, but this driver issue is driving me nuts...no pun intended
[02:20] <dr_Willis> !info slune
[02:20] <KalThaeden[EK]> oh, you know what, that is an older video card, right?
[02:20] <KalThaeden[EK]> let me look it up.
[02:20] <Cheezwhiz> It is, yes.  I wasn't sure if I needed to use the old Legacy driver or get a new driver from nVidia.  I'm thinking they might have the Linux drivers available now.
[02:22] <KalThaeden[EK]> they should, but otherwise i would try the binary x.org driver.
[02:22] <Cheezwhiz> How would I go about obtaining that?
[02:22] <dr_Willis> Theres Legacy, the normal, and the new.. for the nvidia drivers
[02:22] <KalThaeden[EK]> not the legacy, that is for some of the first cards that nvidia released.
[02:22] <dr_Willis> Theres a list somewhere. that tells what cards need what.
[02:22] <Cheezwhiz> alright.  Off to google.  Thanks for the help.
[02:22] <dr_Willis> 5700 I think does not need legacy or new.. it needsd the middle one.
[02:22] <dr_Willis> !nvidia | Cheezwhiz
[02:22] <KalThaeden[EK]> no problem.
[02:23] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: you need nvidia-glx
[02:23] <Cheezwhiz> Awesome, thank you very much
[02:24] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: It is FX 5700 as I understand ?
[02:24] <Cheezwhiz> That's right
[02:25] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: Than it is nvidia-glx, though you might even try with -new one later.
[02:25] <Cheezwhiz> I plan on doing alot of experimenting, but right now I just want to get the system to a point where I can start learning the basics
[02:26] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: Than glx is a safe choice. ;)
[02:26] <Cheezwhiz> Sounds good.  Greatly appreciated.   Thats why we are here.
[02:27] <KalThaeden[EK]> Just stop in.
[02:27] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: We don't mind . :) ;)
[02:28] <X2683> Hey, KalThaeden[EK]. Are you same one from the EK clan on Battle.net?
[02:28] <Cheezwhiz> Alright.  Already got another question.  I'm following the directions for the driver to install where it asks me to type in "sh <driver name>.run and it says that it can't open it...any ideas?
[02:28] <KalThaeden[EK]> Yes, why?
[02:29] <X2683> Just wondering. Your name looked really familiar.
[02:29] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: why don't u use package manager, it's easier: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:29] <Rioting_pacifist> thx for the fdisk tip, cfdisk got me sorted
[02:30] <KalThaeden[EK]> Yeah, i've given up those days of playing games. I'm just focused on school now, but stop in and chat every now and then on EK channel.
[02:30] <Cheezwhiz> Man.     It can be tough but no need to feel like a moron. ;)
[02:32] <KalThaeden[EK]> yep, just kill the xserver
[02:33] <KalThaeden[EK]> uh, you can reset it by CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-DEL, but i'm trying to remember how to exit it.
[02:33] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: try with package manager beter, It's much easier for a beginner ;)
[02:33] <KalThaeden[EK]> CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-BKSPC, not delete
[02:33] <genii> Cheezwhiz: logout back to the login screen, if you want console you can choose from there console login
[02:33] <KalThaeden[EK]> true. i wasn't even thinking.
[02:34] <Cheezwhiz> Awesome, thanks.  And Gith, when I run $sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx I keep getting a segmentation faulty tree or something to that effect at 50%
[02:34] <Rioting_pacifist> shift?
[02:34] <Cheezwhiz> Not sure what that means
[02:35] <KalThaeden[EK]> nah, i messed up when typing. I was thinking ctrl alt del.
[02:35] <KalThaeden[EK]> from windows.
[02:35] <dr_Willis> hmm... alt-ctrl-backspace will exit X Idmenatly. :)
[02:35] <dr_Willis> imediatly.
[02:35] <dr_Willis> "Right then!" :)
[02:35] <Rioting_pacifist> Cheezwhiz: did you try installing it using jokey-kde that tries to avoid problems but im not sure thats relevant to your problem
[02:37] <Cheezwhiz> I did not, Rioting.  Don't even know what Jokey-kde is to be honest
[02:37] <dr_Willis> jokey is the 'hardware-manager' tool ya see in the menus
[02:37] <dr_Willis> 'hardware-driver-manager' is Jokey  I do think.
[02:37] <maduser> how can you set kopete to open in firefo and not konquer
[02:38]  * X2683 needs to get going. Its late here. Yawn....
[02:38] <KalThaeden[EK]> ok?
[02:38] <dr_Willis> Hmm..  lets see..
[02:38] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: that's "hardware drivers" in menu, jockey-kde that is.
[02:39] <Cheezwhiz> Ah gotcha.  Yes I tried to install that way and it didn't take.
[02:39] <dr_Willis> its jockey-kde
[02:39] <Cheezwhiz> Couple questions before I kill x-server.  How do I get back to the GUI once I do that?
[02:40] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: with startx
[02:40] <dr_Willis> or restart the kdm/gdm service
[02:41] <Cheezwhiz> k. thx
[02:44] <Cheezwhiz> Not sure what happened, but now my resolution is back to normal.  maybe I just needed to do a startx anyway?
[02:44] <adred> someone take look at this please:http://paste.ubuntu.com/26346/..i have a problem with /modules and /alises files.
[02:45] <dr_Willis> Cheezwhiz,  magic? :)
[02:45] <Cheezwhiz> Looks that way lol
[02:45] <dr_Willis> Cheezwhiz,  the X server is supposed to autoconfigure quite a bit..
[02:46] <Cheezwhiz> My next question is this.  Everytime I attempt to do "$sudo apt-get install <pkg name>" I get a Segmentation Faulty Tree... 50% line on the console.  Anyone know what that means?
[02:46] <dr_Willis> that sounds... really really bad...
[02:46] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: Open konsole and run : sudo init 3  Command that will lead you out of graphics mode for sure. ;)
[02:46] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. ubuntu dosent use the runlevles like that i thought
[02:46] <dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:46] <console_jockey> I'd like to know how I can go about getting the source to an app that I've installed via apt?  Specifically I have installed kweather which does not have a source package specifically listed.  Is there some way with apt that I can retrieve the source or must I just google for it?
[02:47] <Githzerai> dr_Willis: Try it ;)
[02:48] <Flashdofu> lol
[02:48] <Cheezwhiz> Alright.  Done with nvidia for now.  How do I go about updating without using Adept?  For some reason everytime I attempt to use Adept I get a crash.
[02:48] <adred> someone take look at this please:http://paste.ubuntu.com/26346/..i have a problem with /modules and /alises files.
[02:51] <console_jockey> nm, it appears that apt-get source packagename is what I was looking for...
[02:55] <Cheezwhiz> It appears that the segmentation faulty tree is cause by corrupt /var/cache/apt/*.bin's, unfortunately I can't figure out how to delete them.  Any ideas?
[02:58] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.*
[02:58] <Cheezwhiz> Yeah, I got it.  Did a little googling
[03:00] <dr_Willis> A++
[03:00] <dr_Willis> You get a gold star for googling and reserching!
[03:00] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:03] <Cheezwhiz> Alright guys.  Your help so far tonight has been greatly appreciated.  Got the right driver installed, was able to update, and I'm starting to get the hang of it a bit.
[03:06] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: glad to hear that. ;)
[03:06] <Cheezwhiz> Now I just gotta figure out why Compiz isn't working lol
[03:07] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: You need to install it first: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde
[03:07] <Cheezwhiz> Right.  I just installed it using the Desktop Effects tool in K-->System
[03:08] <Githzerai> Now install: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:09] <Githzerai> for easy configuration
[03:09] <Cheezwhiz> done
[03:11] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: compiz can be started with: compiz --replace  Use "advanced desktop effects settings" for compiz effect configuration.
[03:13] <Cheezwhiz> Awesome.  I'm getting smoother window transitions now so it's working.  I just gotta mess around with manipulating it
[03:14] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: well that's the hardest job of all. So many options, so little time . :)
[03:15] <darcy> what does this mean: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:15] <tony__> can someone tell me why my encrypted partition is able to be accessed via linux? what am I doing wrong?
[03:15] <Cheezwhiz> I hear that.  First thing is to set up the cube that I always hear people talk about.  THen I'll move on
[03:16]  * dr_Willis scoffs at the cube
[03:17] <Cheezwhiz> You don't like it I take it?
[03:17] <dr_Willis> Its main use is to make windows-users eyes bug out.
[03:18] <dr_Willis> then you turn off all that fluff to get real work done. :)
[03:19] <Cheezwhiz> Completely understandable.    Is it simply eye candy?  Of course, but I need to get my playfulness out before I start messing around with the good stuff.
[03:20] <mr---t-> o don't listen to those konsole purists lol
[03:21] <darcy> is anyone able to help
[03:21] <dr_Willis> darcy,  you did run the command it suggested? 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' ??
[03:22] <Cheezwhiz> The konsole purists helped get this OS where it is today.  I'll take the time to listen to anything they have to say...and then respectfully disagree lol
[03:22] <Githzerai> darcy: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <darcy> Githzerai: I did, but it said that I needed superuser authority
[03:22] <Cheezwhiz> precede the command with "sudo"
[03:23] <Githzerai> darcy: with sudo :  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:23] <dr_Willis> Logical eh? :)
[03:23] <dr_Willis> since ya ran the apt-get stuff with 'sudo' normally...
[03:24] <darcy> Githzerai: nope, thanks. I feel like an idiot now.
[03:24] <dr_Willis> 'is this command going to affect the whole system.... if yes... sudo will be needed'
[03:24] <mr---t-> Cheezwhiz:  I was just joking
[03:24] <dr_Willis> is how i explained it to  the guys at work.
[03:24] <Cheezwhiz> I know lol
[03:24] <Githzerai> darcy: don't, it's a common mistake ;)
[03:25] <darcy> Githzerai: one more question - i messed around with my window view and now I don't have the x on the top to closeout - any ideas?
[03:25] <Githzerai> darcy: kwin --replace
[03:25] <Cheezwhiz> Hmm....can't get the cube to work.  I can get my screen to flip between 2 desktops, but that's it
[03:26] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: general options - desktop size in ccsm
[03:27] <Cheezwhiz> Not working.  It keeps reverting back to 1.
[03:28] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: horisontal virtual size slider or whatever it is...
[03:28] <Cheezwhiz> There we go.  That let's me unfold it.
[03:29] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: Now go to rotate effect and turn it on for cube effect
[03:29] <Githzerai> *cune rotation effect
[03:31] <marthi> Connect to Wireless on Hp laptop
[03:31] <marthi> Broadcom drivers
[03:31] <Githzerai> darcy: did it help ?
[03:31] <marthi> I need a help on this
[03:32] <dr_Willis> #1 - determine the exact wireless chipset in the thing.
[03:32] <dr_Willis> !wireless
[03:33] <Cheezwhiz> Awesome.  Got it figured out.  My wife doesn't understand my desire to see it, but whatever lol
[03:33] <dr_Willis> My HP laptop had the Broadcom 4310 chipset.. for some reason the b43 modles did not work with it. I had to use ndiswrappers.
[03:33] <dr_Willis> Cheezwhiz,  the compiz zoom effect. and the 'show previews in panel' are a little  more usefull eyecandy :)
[03:33] <dr_Willis> Wiggly windows makes my wife dizzy
[03:33] <dr_Willis> !ccsm
[03:34] <Cheezwhiz> I'll check that out
[03:34] <dr_Willis> Those are bout the only 2 effects i even enable.
[03:34] <dr_Willis> Wife likes the zoom so she can zoom in on web pages and stuff easier
[03:35] <Cheezwhiz> Would imagine that that would help get rid of my "books online" induced headaches
[03:35] <tmbg> wife likes the pr0n eh?
[03:35] <dr_Willis> I still need to track down a Huge monitor I can read my comic books on. :)
[03:36] <tmbg> say, what manual would one look in to figure out how to get konsole to use bash for new shells instead of sh?
[03:36] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. bash is the default user shell.
[03:36] <dr_Willis> konsole has profiles  You can set to launch other shells.
[03:37] <dr_Willis> This is the kde3 konsole we are talking about right?
[03:38] <Githzerai> tmbg: default shel is bash, unless u set it different in user configuration.
[03:38] <tmbg> oh I'm being stupid. I'm in kubuntu right now, but that was at work in freebsd+kde.
[03:39] <tmbg> my bad
[03:39] <Cheezwhiz> Well....got it installed, got compiz working....the question is, now what? lol
[03:39] <Cheezwhiz> I suppose I should start trying to figure out how to get EQ2 to run with wine or cedega...
[03:40] <dr_Willis> Thats... sort of sad...
[03:40] <dr_Willis> :P
[03:41] <Githzerai> Cheezwhiz: now enjoy ;)
[03:41] <Cheezwhiz> What's sad? lol
[03:41] <dr_Willis> IRC is the ultimate MMORPG
[03:41] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:41] <Githzerai> dr_Willis: :)
[03:42] <Cheezwhiz> Bah.  Used to be.  Course games like Zork used to be the head of the gaming industry too, but you know.
[03:42]  * dr_Willis recalls a ZORK bot once...
[03:42] <darcy> Githzerai: yes, thanks. one more thing - I have an rpm file I'm trying to install. I have installed the rpm program to deal with it, but I can't find the program anywhere
[03:42] <buckethead> Crap. I had figured out how to mount smb but I forgot. Can someone point me towards making a script to do it for me?
[03:43] <dr_Willis> buckethead,  if you really want to be lazy the 'smb4k' program lets you browse/mount samba shares.
[03:43] <dr_Willis> it actually Mounts them to the users smb4k/ShareName directory. :)
[03:43] <Githzerai> darcy: alien in konsole. But I would strongly suggest that you find propper .deb pacakage if possible.
[03:43] <buckethead> I'd like to build a script so I can push one button and auto-mount everything on home servers.
[03:43] <buckethead> I'll check out smb4k in the mean time.
[03:44] <dr_Willis> buckethead,  you may want to chek out the 'fusesmb' tool also. it basicially 'mounts' the whole 'network neighborhood' to a directory
[03:44] <dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[03:44] <buckethead> Thats interesting. How fast is it?
[03:44] <dr_Willis> a command like 'fusesmb Network'    and poof the whole Lan is there. :)
[03:45] <dr_Willis> if you are worried about speed.. smb is  a bottleneck :)
[03:45] <dr_Willis> not really tested how the fuse is vs the normal mounting..  seemed about the same to me
[03:45] <dr_Willis> I tend to toss large avi files all over the place with no hassles.
[03:45] <dr_Willis> for Linxu to Linux - NFS is MUCH faster
[03:46] <buckethead> Can I run them side/side? I need win compatibility..
[03:46] <dr_Willis> this is linux.. of course you can........
[03:46] <dr_Willis> :)
[03:46] <dr_Willis> I do recall some mention of NFS for windows.. but never did find it.
[03:46] <darcy> Githzerai: what is a .deb package - I installed it from the synaptic package manager.
[03:47] <buckethead> Heh. Around the people I know.. Simple is required.
[03:47] <dr_Willis> for simple/quick and easy transfers.. winscp + ssh - is handy.
[03:47] <Githzerai> darcy: I suggested that u find .deb instead of .rpm package u have ;)
[03:47] <dr_Willis> but it may be a bit slower.. but its easy to get going. and almost fool proof. :)
[03:48] <darcy> Githzerai: I'm trying to install lightscribe and this is direct from their website.
[03:48] <dr_Willis> I got the lightscripe label and otehr tools the other day from their web site.
[03:49] <dr_Willis> Worked decently well.. takes 5+ min to make a label however.
[03:49] <Githzerai> darcy: yes, but don't they have a deb package for download also ?
[03:49] <dr_Willis> I was pretty sure they had deb packages for the labeler and other package.
[03:50] <cadoo> darcy: i just checked they have deb files there as while
[03:50] <darcy> cadoo: thanks - I'm going there now.
[03:50] <cadoo> http://download.lightscribe.com/ls/lightscribe-<IP_ADDRESS>-linux-2.6-intel.deb
[03:51] <dr_Willis> http://download.lightscribe.com/ls/lightscribeApplications-<IP_ADDRESS>-linux-2.6-intel.deb
[03:51] <dr_Willis> thers 2 packages ya got to get. :)
[03:51] <dr_Willis> http://download.lightscribe.com/ls/lightscribe-<IP_ADDRESS>-linux-2.6-intel.deb
[03:52] <cadoo> nice to see a company with good linux support!
[03:53] <darcy> Thanks a great deal dr_Willis, cadoo and Githzeral
[03:53] <Cheezwhiz> Alright guys.  I'm off for the night.  Gotta get some sleep.  Thanks again for the help and I'm sure I'll see you tomorrow.
[03:54] <dr_Willis> Hmm theres 2  different lightscribe laberler programs out.. one is shown above.. the other is from the laCie company.. but i cant find a direct link to a .deb on their web site..
[03:55] <dr_Willis> wget http://uploads.mitechie.com/lightscribe/4l_1.0-r6_i386.deb
[03:55] <dr_Willis> is from an 'unoffical' site.. not sure if thats up to date.
[03:55] <dr_Willis> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/howto-install-lightscribe-in-ubuntu.html
[03:56] <darcy> dr_Willis: thanks - appreciate it
[03:56] <dr_Willis> those label progrms.. are both very basic. but they did the job. :)
[03:57] <dr_Willis> grab some fancy label templates/images from the lighscribe page to use with the 4L labeler also
[03:59] <buckethead> What the .. "mount error: permission denied or not superuser and mount.cifs not installed SUID"  <- I thought I had fstab skills, guess not.
[03:59] <dr_Willis> buckethead, whats giving this?
[04:00] <dr_Willis>  ls -l /sbin/mount.cifs
[04:00] <dr_Willis> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 23K 2008-06-30 11:57 /sbin/mount.cifs*
[04:00] <dr_Willis> Looks like my mount.cifs is 'suid'  I think
[04:00] <buckethead> I figured out how to mount the smb shares again and now i'm trying to make it something that I can mount as user
[04:01] <dr_Willis> the 'user' and 'users' option dosent work eh?
[04:01] <buckethead> I thought the user fstab option gave that o_0
[04:01] <dr_Willis> may be not for smb/cifs?
[04:01] <dr_Willis> or mount.cifs needs to be SUID
[04:01] <mefisto__> question about memtest: is it unusual for memtest to sometimes show failures and sometimes pass all the tests? does that suggest my ram is ok but I have some other hardware problem?
[04:02] <dr_Willis> I would power off the box.. take out all ram, clean/reseat it.. and try again.. give the pc a good cleaning also...
[04:03] <Githzerai> mefisto__: I shouldn't happen anyway. RAM can't "sometimes" be good
[04:03] <mefisto__> dr_Willis: clean? you mean the contact pins? just wipe them, remove dust etc?
[04:03] <dr_Willis> Yes to all of that mefisto__
[04:03] <dr_Willis> :)
[04:04] <dr_Willis> Its not as big a deal these days.. but i have seen chips get a little loose.
[04:04] <dr_Willis> One problem PC i had.. had a loose screw... stuck under the motherboard... that caused all kinds of issues..
[04:05] <mefisto__> Githzerai: that's what I thought. so if I can sometimes get it to pass, but sometimes utterly fail all tests, it's not the ram but something else
[04:05] <dr_Willis> also with memtest. remove all ram. except for one stick, test that stick by itself..
[04:05] <dr_Willis> it may be the ram socket thats bad.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> Had a PC once that for some reason one ram slot was bad.
[04:06] <tmbg> could be flaky power.
[04:06] <tmbg> capacitor in the mb's power supply circuitry going south or the like.
[04:06] <dr_Willis> dead mouse on the motheboard... :)
[04:07] <Githzerai> mefisto__: Doesn't necessary mean it isn't RAM. Maybe module overheated for a moment (memtest gives it a full use ;) )or something equaly simple but problematic...
[04:07] <mefisto__> I'll get my cat to take a look at it :)
[04:08] <buckethead> dr_Willis: If I chown the folder to myself, I can pull it off but it asked my password again.. Kind of defeats the purpose.
[04:08] <buckethead> Good enough.
[04:14] <ishbale> yo willis
[04:15] <ishbale> wats a good updated ipod tool for linux
[04:15] <mefistofele> amarok baby
[04:15] <ishbale> wats a good updated ipod tool for linux
[04:15] <ishbale> ?
[04:15] <Richie086> gtkpod
[04:15] <ishbale> i try both brb
[04:16] <buckethead> what are you trying to do?
[04:16] <buckethead> for video, go with gtkpod+
[04:16] <buckethead> For audio, amarok
[04:16] <Richie086> ah ive never used amarok to interact with the ipod
[04:16] <ishbale> k
[04:17] <buckethead> The main reason why I use amarok for music is because it handles all the rest of my music. Provides an easier interface.
[04:18] <Richie086> btw ive been a long time linux user that is using kubuntu for my first time.. this is truely an awesome linux distro.. goodbye fedora..
[04:18] <slashquit> i like it myself, but i won't even mention what i switched from
[04:18] <ishbale> lol
[04:18] <Richie086> heh
[04:18] <tmbg> haha
[04:20] <nuxil> why is firefox 2 the same as firefox 3 ?
[04:20] <Richie086> it was funny i thought fedora was solid but just recently there were all these little issues that kept popping up that eventually made me take a chance on trying out a different distro.. been using redhat products since 5.1
[04:20] <Richie086> how is it the same?
[04:20] <slashquit> not sure. my adept lists ff 3 as firefox, but ff2 as firefox-2
[04:20] <nuxil> firefox --version and firefox-2 --version shows correct.. but if yo open up the firefoxes and go on "about" you see that ff-2 == ff3
[04:20] <nuxil> strange
[04:21] <Richie086> ahh
[04:21] <Richie086> yeah that is weird
[04:21] <slashquit> 2 == 3? thought that only happened on pentia.
[04:21] <nuxil> and i need version 2
[04:21] <Richie086> whats pentia?
[04:22] <nuxil> not a clue
[04:22] <slashquit> mine has listed firefox-3.0 for firefox and firefox-2 for firefox. curious.
[04:22] <nuxil> same here
[04:22] <nuxil> ff and ff-3.0 is same
[04:22] <slashquit> pentia? umm.. very expensive burner elements built by a company in albuquerque.
[04:23] <nuxil> slashquit & Richie086, do you got em both installed ?
[04:23] <slashquit> i only got 3.0 installed
[04:24] <nuxil> can you try to install 2 and see if you got same problem?
[04:25] <slashquit> i missed what the problem was
[04:25] <Richie086> actually funny u should mention ff2/3 cuz that was one of the issues i was having with fedora, i had 2 and 3 installed and as my normal user account for the life of me i could not get firefox 3 to launch on my regualar user account even if i went into the install directory and ran it ./firefox it would still run the old version and it was pissing me off..
[04:25] <Richie086> i only have 3 installed and kind of plan on keeping it that way
[04:25] <nuxil> so you have the same prob
[04:25] <Richie086> eyah
[04:26] <Richie086> is that actually the issue ur having?
[04:26] <slashquit> ok i got 2 and 3 running
[04:26] <Richie086> where you ahve two copies installed but only one will launch?
[04:26] <nuxil> well.. i need ff2 but only ff3 is starting
[04:26] <slashquit> and two links on the internet directory
[04:26] <slashquit> ok 2 just crashed
[04:26] <Richie086> LOL wow same issue just backwards
[04:26] <nuxil> even if i rm ff3 and start ff2, its shown as ff3
[04:27] <nuxil> its kinda anoying
[04:27] <Richie086> and get this, for some reason in ff2 if i entered a search term into the google search to the left of the address bar and hit enter, nothing would happen
[04:27] <slashquit> ok so loading 2 opens up 3
[04:27] <nuxil> right
[04:27] <nuxil> there is no version 2
[04:28] <Richie086> and the back button no longer worked.. i removed and reinstalled same issue.
[04:29] <nuxil> i need to use a smart card reader and the site only supports version 2.. well.. i havent gotten version 3 to work. the java app dosent start up on that site.
[04:30] <slashquit> ah i think both versions open up firefox in /usr/bin, but there are ff 2 and 3 scripts, but maybe the main firefox file is the one that's called when you open it up
[04:30] <nuxil> time to hack tha scripts :P
[04:31] <slashquit> so i guess it executes the main binaries out of a usr/lib/firefox library
[04:32] <Richie086> one thing my roommate mentioned while i was intalling kubuntu in regard tot he firefox issue, look in ur home dir to see if there is a .mozilla directory
[04:33] <nuxil> moz_libdir=/usr/lib/firefox-2 but there is no such dir.. strange
[04:33] <nuxil> from at /usr/bin/firefox-2
[04:33] <nuxil> *cat
[04:33] <Richie086> there might be some kinda script that runs when u launch firefox that says where to look..
[04:33] <nuxil> Richie086, them all are just scripts
[04:34] <slashquit> i got a .mozilla folder
[04:35] <slashquit> dunno richie, it looks like it opens up some sort of library, but i know jack about scripts and *nix in general
[04:37] <Richie086> hmm
[04:37] <Richie086> let me look @ mine
[04:38] <nuxil> lol..i have no idea what i just did,, but its started up.. no java though
[04:40] <slashquit> maybe if you only run one at a time it will work
[04:41] <Richie086> welll while its running check top to see if it shows the path its running under
[04:42] <slashquit> ok so it looks like if you're already running it and you try to run another app, it defaults to whichever one is loaded
[04:42] <Richie086> java is easy enough to get working again
[04:42] <HPDV2000> hii
[04:42] <Richie086> hmm
[04:42] <slashquit> hi
[04:43] <slashquit> i would say run one at a time, otherwise maybe you could run one under another account
[04:44] <nuxil> LOL yea..there is def something strange..if i open ff2. then open ff3. ff3 becomes ff2 LOL and VS
[04:45] <slashquit> all versions must use the same external variables and objects and all that shared memory stuff with the OS
[04:45] <Richie086> yeah
[04:45] <Richie086> sounds that way
[04:45] <slashquit> executing it checks with the code to see if it's loaded, if it is, then it traps it and spawns another process rather than reload it. i would guess maybe it could be run under a different account tho.
[04:46] <slashquit> maybe like with a runas or sudo or something it could work
[04:48] <slashquit> like i said, i know jack about linux. i just installed it like a week ago.
[04:49] <slashquit> real operating systems are new to me
[04:49] <nuxil> well. welcome to the linux world :) noob :p
[04:49] <nuxil> jk
[04:49] <slashquit> why thank you very much
[04:50] <nuxil> ok. now i need to get java working again
[04:52] <slashquit> you might have to install the java plugin via adept
[04:53] <nuxil> slashquit, do you like linux ?
[04:54] <slashquit> it hasn't crashed on me yet
[04:54] <buckethead> Is there a good GUI front end to ffmpeg anywhere? I'm having a bear of a time trying to convert for ipod.
[04:54] <nuxil> buckethead, maybe transcoding ?
[04:54] <nuxil> or was it transcoder. i dont remember
[04:55] <buckethead> I got nothing under either.
[04:56] <nuxil> !gtranscoder
[04:56] <nuxil> !gtranscode
[04:56] <nuxil> thouse ones
[04:57] <nuxil> you must enable multiverse or universe,, not sure.. check the wiki
[04:57] <buckethead> kk
[04:58] <Githzerai> !info gtranscoder
[04:58] <nuxil> pff
[04:58] <nuxil> i got it in my repo :p
[04:59] <Githzerai> !info gtranscode
[04:59] <Githzerai> There it is... :)
[05:01] <nuxil> we need a ktranscoder :P
[05:01] <buckethead> yes.
[05:01] <nuxil> i bet 5 bucks ther is one somewhere
[05:06] <nuxil> java dosent work :\
[05:10] <buckethead> It runs. Hopefully it will also work. LOL.
[05:10] <nuxil> no it dosent.. it dosent load java app on sites..
[05:12] <solifugus> How can I turn on my ssh server on kubuntu, so i can remotely ssh into it?
[05:12] <nuxil> sshd
[05:12] <nuxil> but you probealy want to configure it first
[05:13] <solifugus> ok.. first step.. i need to install it.
[05:13] <solifugus> I just need to backup this laptop... so i can send it in for repair.
[05:13] <solifugus> this is across my local network..
[05:13] <nuxil> on remote pc run sshd and on pc you want to accsess from ssh IP
[05:13] <nuxil> simple
[05:16] <solifugus> normally its /etc/init.d/sshd start  ---> after kubuntu install, it was /etc/init.d/ssh start   (they just leave out the d)
[05:19] <solifugus> i wrote a script to tunnel a tar stream over ssh to a storage device on an winxp machine, using cygwin.
[05:19] <solifugus> my test worked.. so.. here goes 200GB of backups..
[05:20] <nuxil> solifugus, if you want to do backup you lappy over nertwork , you can also use netcat
[05:28] <nuxil> !java
[05:28] <nuxil> !jre
[05:30] <nuxil> java app fail to start in ff3.. in ff2 it says it cant load java plugin . i have installed about all stuff named java now from the repo. anyone got an idea why it fails ?
[05:34] <nuxil> i hate java with all of my hart
[05:36] <mr---t-> did you load the jre package or from javas site?
[05:39] <nuxil> mr---t-, what you mean?
[05:39] <nuxil> i just install stuff from apt
[05:40] <mr---t-> I know that ff3  java doesn't work if you install from the sun website
[05:40] <nuxil> no i didnt do that
[05:41] <mr---t-> I also know that mozilla has an add on for java that will interfere with it waorking
[05:41] <nuxil> on the site im trying to access. it says. start: applet not omotoalized
[05:41] <nuxil> *initialized
[05:42] <nuxil> thats in ff3
[05:42] <nuxil> in ff2 it says it cant load java plugin
[05:42] <mr---t-> stupid question  did you rstart ff after installing
[05:43] <nuxil> yes
[05:43] <nuxil> https://secure.buypass.no/wips/service
[05:43] <nuxil> that site
[05:43] <nuxil> can you load it ?
[05:44] <nuxil> that was wrong
[05:44] <mr---t-> I m not sure it's not in english
[05:44] <nuxil> http://www.norsk-tipping.no/page?id=97&tp=tm
[05:44] <nuxil> click on Ny epost
[05:45] <nuxil> it should be in the top middle of the site
[05:46] <nuxil> mr---t-, just look at the status bar
[05:46] <nuxil> what it say?
[05:46] <mr---t-> yes i can load it  I can't read it  but can load it
[05:46] <calcmandan> running 8.04.1 on an e2180 cpu with 2gb of ram.  My machine was running just fine today.    I came back to boot it back up and it won't boot up.  Tells me to choose a bootable media and hit a key.  So I'm now loaded on a live disc and mounted the hdd.  I am seeing root right now.  Anyone know where I should look to see why grub isn't loading?
[05:46] <nuxil> hmm
[05:47] <nuxil> mr---t-, why do you think i cant load it?
[05:47] <mr---t-> what's the error  in english
[05:48] <flaccid> nuxil: sorry i just got here, what is your issue?
[05:48] <nuxil> mr---t-, in ff2 or ff3 ?
[05:48] <nuxil> flaccid, i cant get java working,,
[05:49] <mr---t-> ff3 they may be looking for windoze
[05:49] <flaccid> calcmandan: if your grub is not loading at all it may not be installed or needs re-install.
[05:49] <flaccid> !grubfix | calcmandan
[05:49] <flaccid> !fixgrub | calcmandan
[05:49] <flaccid> nuxil: which browser and which java?
[05:49] <calcmandan> flaccid: I had grub installed before. it booted up just fine until just a bit ago.
[05:49] <nuxil> flaccid, ff2 and ff3 and all versions.
[05:49] <nuxil> 5 and 6
[05:50] <mr---t-> flaccid got you I'm out
[05:50] <flaccid> calcmandan: yeah i read that. but asking for bootable media usually means it can't find an MBR if the disks *are* being detected
[05:50] <flaccid> mr---t-: huh?
[05:50] <flaccid> nuxil: hardy?
[05:51] <nuxil> flaccid, im trying to access my site. on a norwegian gambling site. the site is java. and they are suppose to support windows and linux. but not mac
[05:51] <nuxil> flaccid, yes
[05:51] <mr---t-> you are better equiped to help than I
[05:52] <nuxil> flaccid, i got this smart card reader i need for identification. i got it working. easly. but not java :\
[05:52] <flaccid> mr---t-: i am, eeek */me runs away :o
[05:52] <flaccid> nuxil: does this java display? http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[05:52] <nuxil> 1 sec
[05:54] <nuxil> "Test your JVM" and its blank.
[05:54] <nuxil> let me try ff3
[05:55] <nuxil> it started in ff3
[05:56] <flaccid> which browser didn't work with the above URL, nuxil?
[05:56] <nuxil> ff2
[05:56] <nuxil> flaccid, not by any chance norwegian?
[05:57] <flaccid> ah yeah i had problems with that one and don't think i could work it out. run firefox2 from konsole, then goto the java test page above and then paste the output it does in konsole to pastebin
[05:57]  * mr---t- wonders if running both versions could cause a conflict?
[05:58] <calcmandan> flaccid: i reinstalled grub using the directinos on that page. If it works man, thank you.
[05:58] <nuxil> mr---t-, lol thats funny.. if you start up ff2. then startup ff3. ff3 becomes ff2 and VS
[05:58] <nuxil> flaccid, hold on
[05:59] <flaccid> calcmandan: sweet as np
[05:59] <flaccid> nuxil: yeah thats how they designed it i think with the ubuntu packaging
[06:00]  * mr---t- guess i'm thinking like windoze....
[06:01] <nuxil> flaccid, looks bad
[06:01] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/106763
[06:03] <zkuut3r> hi
[06:07] <flaccid> nuxil: i can't load that page for some reason
[06:07] <flaccid> something wrong with their server or something
[06:07] <nuxil> strange
[06:08] <nuxil> what does it say
[06:08] <nuxil> flaccid, did you use ff2 or ff3 ?
[06:08] <flaccid> nothing, and a few weird tags in the source
[06:08] <flaccid> konq and opera
[06:09] <nuxil> konq is not supported on that site, but opera is,
[06:09] <flaccid> nuxil: put it up on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[06:09] <flaccid> on pastebin.ca ?
[06:09] <nuxil> yes pls
[06:09] <flaccid> anyway paste it on the ubuntu pastebin and i'll check it out
[06:12] <nuxil> <tr height="3"><td></td></tr>
[06:12] <flaccid> ?
[06:12] <nuxil> thouse are the tags is get
[06:12] <flaccid> nuxil: goto http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and put in the output from running firefox from konsole and loading the java test page
[06:12] <nuxil> i did already
[06:13] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/106763
[06:13] <flaccid> no @ the ubuntu pastebin
[06:13] <nuxil> why there?
[06:13] <flaccid> [15:09] <flaccid> nuxil: put it up on http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[06:13] <flaccid> because your pastebin.ca link aint working for me
[06:16] <nuxil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26382/
[06:17] <flaccid> nuxil: did you set up sun java and thats what you want to use or the open java out of the box
[06:17] <nuxil> open java out of the box
[06:19] <flaccid> nuxil: when you goto the java test page in fx3, what type of java does it say you are using once the applet is fully loaded?
[06:19] <nuxil> 1 sec
[06:21] <nuxil> it says im using 1.6
[06:21] <nuxil> java 6
[06:22] <flaccid> nuxil: which vendor?
[06:23] <nuxil> sun microsystems inc
[06:23] <flaccid> so you did install sun.
[06:23] <nuxil> no i havent, unless ff has done it for me.
[06:24] <nuxil> i only use apt or adept to install stuff
[06:24] <flaccid> nuxil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842739 but i never got it to work myself. you may need sudo update-alternatives --config java . it might also be a good idea to go over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:24] <nuxil> flaccid, what does your vendor say
[06:24] <flaccid> i use Sun
[06:25] <nuxil> *         4    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java is set to default
[06:25] <nuxil> weird
[06:26] <flaccid> um you should upgrade and use java 1.6.0 / 6
[06:26] <flaccid> feel free to pastebin dpkg -l | grep java
[06:28] <nuxil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26385/
[06:29] <flaccid> you have at least 3 javas installed
[06:29] <flaccid> what is your sudo update-java-alternatives -l ?
[06:29] <nuxil> java-1.5.0-sun 53 /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[06:30] <nuxil> java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
[06:30] <nuxil> java-gcj 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj
[06:30] <nuxil> thouse
[06:30] <flaccid> you might want to update alternatives and select only sun
[06:32] <nuxil> erm.. im going to remove all java related suff..
[06:34] <flaccid> there is some you shouldn't remove but yeah
[06:34] <nuxil> hehe.. to late :p
[06:34] <nuxil> so everything i purged now
[06:34] <flaccid> cool, i guess. from memory one of those might be needed by firefox, but anyway
[06:35] <nuxil> should i only install sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre  ?
[06:35] <flaccid> i never got sun java to work in firefox2 on hardy due to an exception
[06:35] <flaccid> and sun-java6-plugin
[06:35] <nuxil> ok. trying that
[06:36] <nuxil> soon i need some sticks to hold my eyes open.. its 7:30 am and i been messing with this all night
[06:36] <chalcedony> nuxil: it's like that
[06:37] <flaccid> well i messed with trying to get it working for hours as well. opera is my main browser so it didn't matter much. i went to #firefox for some help and they didn't care, the only thing they cared about is the launch of fx3. no wonder i prefer qt stuff
[06:38] <flaccid> bbs
[06:39] <nuxil> bleh.. it doesnt work.. i
[06:39] <nuxil> i'll continue this carp tomorrow
[06:43] <orvv_> hi
[06:43] <orvv_> lol
[06:43] <orvv_> LOLL
[06:44] <orvv_> kwifi don,t hawe wpa2
[06:44] <orvv_> what to use?
[06:44] <orvv_> I need this ASAP
[06:47] <tuxwulf> Install the supplicant thing?
[06:52] <flaccid> orvv_: knetworkmanager
[06:55] <orvv_> k
[06:57] <orvv_> is it possible to dowload the package into a usb flash?
[06:57] <flaccid> orvv_: yes
[06:57] <orvv_> are heron packages on some website?
[06:57] <flaccid> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:58] <_2> !packages
[06:58] <orvv_> thanks
[07:00] <orvv_> lol
[07:02] <flaccid> anyone use a program or something to get youtube movies from youtube URLs ?
[07:03] <flaccid> ah youtube-dl
[07:03] <_2> cool  i just applied a patch to libdvdread3 and now i can rib the newer dvd titles
[07:03] <flaccid> sweet. i hope that makes the package?
[07:04] <_2> flaccid yeah.  i got it from debian.org sid
[07:05] <_2> as a tarball of course.
[07:05] <flaccid> ah coolio
[07:05]  * _2 is happy now.
[07:06]  * _2 gets tic'd when he can't copy/edit/rewrite/hack/'and generally manipulate in any way he chooses' anything on/in his computer.
[07:07] <_2> is that an FOSS thang ???
[07:07] <RawSushi> hmm, why is there no sound in KDE by default?
[07:07] <RawSushi> I can't seem to figure out how to fix it
[07:08] <flaccid> RawSushi: there is sound by default, you must have a problem of some kind
[07:08] <RawSushi> yeah, in gnome there is
[07:08] <RawSushi> but in KDE..not on my end
[07:09] <_2> alt+f2 enter blah!
[07:09] <_2> hear glass break ?
[07:09] <flaccid> RawSushi: check kmix and alsamixer to make sure its not muted or turned down. also test that alsa can play within kde with aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[07:09] <RawSushi> no
[07:09] <flaccid> ok you don't have to then.
[07:09] <RawSushi> no n
[07:09] <RawSushi> no no
[07:09] <RawSushi> I was answering _2
[07:09] <_2> flaccid :)
[07:10] <RawSushi> I will try what you said :P
[07:10] <_2> there is also a sound trouble shooting page    not that it will actually help...
[07:10] <_2> !sound
[07:11] <tuxwulf> !dolphin | tuxwulf
[07:11] <flaccid> cool
[07:11] <anom01y> how can I change the default file manager from dolphin back to konqueror ?
[07:12] <flaccid> anom01y: system settings | default applications
[07:12] <anom01y> flaccid: there is no spot there to change default file manager
[07:12] <anom01y> just default browser, email, terminal
[07:12] <flaccid> anom01y: you have to do it per extension/mime type in file associations
[07:13] <anom01y> hmm
[07:13] <flaccid> i mean default file manager wouldn't really work because of all the different files
[07:16] <_2> there is an "alternative" on that isn't there ?  x-file-manager   or something ?
[07:16] <_2> in /usr/bin/
[07:16] <_2> maybe not.
[07:16] <_2> x-session-manager    x-window-manager    x-terminal-emulator  x-www-browser
[07:17] <_2> nothing on file manager in dapper
[07:18] <flaccid> !enter | _2
[07:18] <_2> now i have to distribute this patch to several other boxen.   at least they are all one arch
[07:18] <_2> did
[07:18] <_2> i
[07:18] <_2> do
[07:18] <_2> that ?
[07:18] <flaccid> don't do that.
[07:19] <_2> don't be a jerk,  you know i dont use enter a punct.
[07:19] <franco> hi
[07:19] <flaccid> !respect
[07:19] <_2> you don't,  i wont.   :)
[07:20] <flaccid> _2: you have offended me. please read the rules and be respectful as per the CoC.
[07:20] <_2> lol  :)))   ok.
[07:20] <flaccid> _2: one piece of advice. don't call users names on irc.
[07:21] <_2> i call everyone names.   how else can we tell whom we are addressing ?
[07:22] <flaccid> _2: by their nickname, not by 'jerk' or other terms
[07:22] <_2> like i said,  you don't act like one, i wont either.
[07:23] <flaccid> _2: i don't make the rules, i just enforce them. you act like many things, but i aint calling you by them because of the rules and CoC.
[07:24] <_2> are you finished ?
[07:24] <flaccid> i am unless you continue.
[07:24]  * _2 always continues.
[07:25] <_2> continue to what?  btw
[07:26]  * flaccid yawns
[07:26] <stdin> Daddy's home, behave children
[07:26] <_2> stdin lol
[07:26] <jussi01> And big brother...
[07:26] <flaccid> im not a child.
[07:26] <Tm_T> hi stdin son
[07:27] <_2> jussi01  hey,  are you watching me ?
[07:27] <jussi01> I watch everyone
[07:27] <_2> :)
[07:27] <Tm_T> jussi01: me too?
[07:27] <jussi01> Now lets get back on topic shall we?
[07:27] <_2> what topic ?
[07:27] <stdin> the one in the topic :)
[07:27] <_2> i'm waiting for a question to show up.
[07:27] <jussi01> Kubuntu Support :)
[07:31] <_2> are we on topic now ?
[07:39] <_2> here's a new topic  "thank god _2 left"  you can all talk about that noe.
[08:58] <rasmus> Hi! I have some problem usng a external harddrive.
[09:00] <rasmus> i've got a LaCie usb 2,0 disk. Before i had some problems mounting the drive but that is solved thanx to some threads on a forum
[09:00] <greeklegend> go on..
[09:00] <rasmus> So, now the problem is that i can't transfer files containing "bizarr" letters like &, åäö, and such
[09:01] <greeklegend> i don't think the FAT filesystem supports putting letters like that in filenames? am i wrong?
[09:01] <greeklegend> do you really need to use these characters?
[09:01] <rasmus> Well, i think it's a NTFS system
[09:02] <rasmus> Well, since i'm swedish åäö for exemple is pretty well used in file-names
[09:02] <greeklegend> NTFS? hmm i'll try making a file on my ntfs partition
[09:03] <rasmus> the thing is that i want to back up my harddrive, and it's not relly conventient to change names on files ;-).
[09:03] <greeklegend> yeah i gotcha
[09:03] <rasmus> ?
[09:03] <greeklegend> ok well i managed to make a file with the ä
[09:04] <rasmus> ah, i see
[09:04] <greeklegend> what are you using to copy the stuff?
[09:04] <rasmus> so, do you have any idea of what i sould do
[09:04] <rasmus> Well i used dolphin and konqueror
[09:04] <rasmus> and they both say that they can't write to the disk
[09:04] <rasmus> My old lacie-disk generates no problems though
[09:05] <greeklegend> what kubuntu version are you using?
[09:05] <rasmus> gutsy gibbon
[09:07] <greeklegend> hmm ok i can do it but i'm on hardy
[09:07] <greeklegend> can you copy the files in the terminal?
[09:07] <rasmus>  well, my old harddrive has a fat partition. Is it possible for me to format my hardrive to fat, using linux?
[09:07] <rasmus> How do i use the terminal for copying?
[09:08] <greeklegend> we certainly can format your harddrive to fat but lets try that later
[09:08] <rasmus> ok
[09:08] <rasmus> so the copying then
[09:08] <greeklegend> ahh lets say you have a file called /home/ramus/äää
[09:08] <rasmus> yeah
[09:08] <greeklegend> and your harddrive is mounted at /media/harddrive
[09:08] <rasmus> ok
[09:08] <greeklegend> try "cp /home/ramus/äää /media/harddrive"
[09:10] <rasmus> pleas wait and i'll try
[09:12] <rasmus> that's strange, it says it cant find the file on my harddrive, i'll check the spelling
[09:14] <greeklegend> hang on, are you copying files off the harddrive onto your computer or from your computer to your harddrive
[09:15] <rasmus> from my computer. For some reason the konsole don't find any of my files i'm trying to open or copy. I guess i have miss spelled something
[09:15] <rasmus> but i can't see what
[09:15] <hateball> Try tab-completing them :)
[09:15] <greeklegend> you're in the wrong directory?
[09:16] <rasmus> that could be the reason. Should i be in the "copy from"- directory?
[09:16] <greeklegend> yes
[09:16] <greeklegend> do you know how to change directory in the console?
[09:16] <rasmus> well, appearently i was there
[09:17] <rasmus> Yes, and i'm in my home-folder
[09:17] <rasmus> there i have my file "a" (can try "ä" later), but it wouln't find it
[09:17] <greeklegend> try ./a instead of a
[09:18] <rasmus> the dot before the slash?
[09:18] <greeklegend> yes
[09:18] <rasmus> sorry, does not work :-(
[09:19] <greeklegend> is the file there if you type "ls"?
[09:19] <rasmus> i wrote this:  cp /home/ramus./a /media/harddrive
[09:19] <rasmus> No sorry
[09:19] <greeklegend> ohhh
[09:19] <rasmus> cp /home/ramus/a /media/LaCie
[09:20] <rasmus> That was the first i tried.
[09:20] <greeklegend> ok that should have worked
[09:20] <hateball> could try adding a / tho
[09:20] <hateball>  /media/LaCie/
[09:21] <greeklegend> how are you creating this file? if it doesn't show up in ls something must be seriously wrong...
[09:22] <rasmus> no, sorry, didn't work. But now it's not the drive but the file on my computer that is not working. Strange, i'll try to copy it some where else on my drive
[09:22] <rasmus> well, i copied to my home-folder using konqueror
[09:22] <hateball> touch x && cp x x2
[09:22] <rasmus> and konqueror opens it all right
[09:23] <greeklegend> ok how about we start from the begining
[09:23] <rasmus> this is really strange. What can be wrong? I tried copy to another place on my computer. It keeps on telling me the source file don't exist
[09:23] <greeklegend> cd ~
[09:23] <greeklegend> touch ./abc
[09:24] <greeklegend> cp ./abc /media/laCie
[09:24] <hateball> cd ~
[09:24] <hateball> touch x && cp x x2
[09:24] <hateball> is easier :p
[09:24] <hateball> should give you x and x2 in the current dir
[09:25] <rasmus> whait, should i write "touch ./abc" or just "./abc", sorry for my lack of english-knowlidge
[09:25] <greeklegend> "touch ./abc"
[09:25] <rasmus> ok, that's done
[09:26] <sbucatino> who knows alsa input device /dev/etcet  with mic boosteed
[09:26] <greeklegend> "cp ./abc /media/laCie"
[09:26] <elo_> sup people
[09:26] <rasmus> Hateball, thanx for the help, but it's esier to just get help from one person ;-)
[09:26] <hateball> ;)
[09:26] <greeklegend> lol good to have someone making sure i don't say anything wrong
[09:26] <rasmus> that worked
[09:27] <greeklegend> ok now let's try...
[09:27] <rasmus> so, ill try to make a file containing a ä then
[09:27] <greeklegend> yeah
[09:27] <greeklegend> exactly
[09:28] <elo_> guys i used to run kubuntu feisty and it's been a long time since i have personalized kubuntu, but i recently installed 8.04 and am kinda lost on a few things
[09:28] <rasmus> that didn't work
[09:28] <arkygeek_> hi.  in kde4, i don't get focus unless i click on the title bar of a window.... how do i set it so that I get focus by clicking anywhere on a window?
[09:28] <hateball> So it's probably been mounted with ISO-blabla instead of UTF-8 then
[09:28] <rasmus> some thing like "not valid or complet" (i get error messages in swedish)
[09:29] <elo_> for .deb files i remember having the ability to right click and choose to install it, on this new kubuntu i dont have that choice and have to use the console to do it. also i recently installed a few programs using the repositories and am unable to find any of them in the menu (i'm running the kde4 version)
[09:29] <rasmus> well, i tried changing that before when mounting i dolphin. Didn't make any differens but maybe i should try again
[09:29] <hateball> try mounting in the terminal
[09:29] <rasmus> ah, great, how do i do?
[09:30] <hateball> I'll skip the sudo, fill in when you're prompted
[09:30] <rasmus> ok
[09:30] <hateball> unmount /media/lacie
[09:30] <hateball> or whatever it was
[09:30] <greeklegend> its umount i think :P
[09:30] <greeklegend> not unmount
[09:30] <hateball> correct
[09:30] <hateball> :p
[09:31] <hateball> hold on!
[09:31] <rasmus> unmount didn't work, so i guess your right ;-)
[09:31] <greeklegend> sorry i have to go to dinner....
[09:31] <greeklegend> i'll leave you in hateball's good hands
[09:31] <rasmus> ok, thanx a lot for all the help!
[09:31] <arkygeek_> rasmus: umount
[09:31] <rasmus> no, it's unmounted
[09:32] <hateball> mount -o iocharset=utf8 /dev/sdWhatever /some/dir/
[09:32] <hateball> I think...
[09:32]  * hateball ponders
[09:32] <rasmus> hehe, so, what about sd whatever?
[09:32] <hateball> Well the disk is discovered as /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc or something
[09:33] <rasmus> so i change it to the apropriate name?
[09:33] <rasmus> sdb1 could that be right?
[09:33] <hateball> yep
[09:33] <hateball> if you have one hdd in the system, it's quite likely
[09:34] <rasmus> and "some/dir" what, do i write there?
[09:34] <hateball> then it needs to be mounted in to an existing dir
[09:34] <hateball> so.... mkdir /media/usbdisk
[09:34] <hateball> or something
[09:34] <hateball> and mount to that
[09:36] <rasmus> so then i write: mount -o iocharset=utf8 /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk?
[09:36] <hateball> yep
[09:36] <hateball> assuming I got the syntax right
[09:37] <hateball> dont normally force charsets...
[09:37] <rasmus> you've got!
[09:37] <rasmus> ok :-)
[09:37] <rasmus> so, now i try to copie again right?
[09:37] <hateball> ye
[09:37] <hateball> well
[09:37] <hateball> you could just touch /media/yourdir/åäö
[09:38]  * hateball touches because it's a nice thing to do
[09:38] <hateball> The bad touch
[09:39] <yao_ziyua1> am i right that kde 4.1 beta packages are not authenticated?
[09:39] <ocs__> hi. how can i force an x window app (my_app) to be displayed at position x,y on the screen ?
[09:39] <rasmus> so i'll do that directly to the usbdrive?
[09:41] <hateball> Ye rasmus
[09:41] <rasmus> that seemed to work, i'll check
[09:41] <hateball> neat
[09:41] <rasmus> hm, the file is there!
[09:41] <hateball> :)
[09:41] <hateball> alright
[09:41] <rasmus> wonderfull
[09:41] <rasmus> so, should i try to move a file with konqueror maybe
[09:41] <hateball> cd ~ && touch åäö && cp åäö /media/disk/
[09:42] <hateball> so you can see if it can copy
[09:42] <hateball> but sure, konqueror should work as well :)
[09:42] <rasmus> hey! Your my heroe for the day!
[09:42] <hateball> najs ;d
[09:43] <rasmus> so how do i keep it mounting this way?
[09:43] <hateball> hmmm
[09:43] <rasmus> Will it remeber?
[09:43] <hateball> Nop
[09:43] <rasmus> :'-(
[09:43] <hateball> I think there's a way to configure the automounter...
[09:43] <hateball> But dunno how
[09:43] <rasmus> ok
[09:43] <hateball> or you can add the drive to /etc/fstab
[09:43] <hateball> to have it permanently mounted
[09:44] <rasmus> ok, but what happens if i wsitch it of?
[09:44] <hateball> or you just make a little script that does the mounting
[09:44] <hateball> Not much, it wont be accessible is all
[09:44] <rasmus> ok, great. So how do i add it?
[09:45] <hateball> Hmm
[09:45] <hateball> lets see
[09:46] <hateball> Well I dunno
[09:47] <hateball> it's not a good solution
[09:47] <hateball> if you switch that disk for another or something it wont behave proper
[09:47] <hateball> Better to fix the automount thingy
[09:47] <rasmus> ok
[09:47] <rasmus> well, i've got another problem to i'm afraid
[09:48] <hateball> Shoot
[09:48] <hateball> Just killing time at work anyhow :D
[09:48] <rasmus> hahaha. Great!
[09:49] <rasmus> my computer is keeping on telling me the drive (tha't you just helped me with) has a size of 10 mb. Well, it's a 500 GB drive.
[09:49] <hateball> haha
[09:49] <hateball> Now that is a problem
[09:50] <hateball> Hmmm
[09:50] <hateball> is konqueror telling you that?
[09:50] <rasmus> yep
[09:50] <hateball> what does "df -h" tell you?
[09:51] <tictric_> -h means human readable
[09:51] <hateball> ye
[09:51] <tictric_> try 'man df'
[09:51] <rasmus> i'll just write it like that?
[09:51] <hateball> It wasnt a question tictric_  :)
[09:51] <hateball> ye rasmus
[09:52] <tictric_> to helpful like always :)
[09:52] <rasmus> it tells me the same, 10M
[09:52] <hateball> how weird
[09:52] <rasmus> :-)
[09:52] <hateball> is the drive new?
[09:52] <rasmus> in deed
[09:52] <rasmus> yes
[09:52] <rasmus> got it today
[09:52] <hateball> ah
[09:52] <rasmus> not formatted?
[09:52] <hateball> perhaps weirdly
[09:53] <rasmus> soolution?
[09:53] <hateball> you could slap it around with fdisk
[09:53] <tictric_> hateball: just saw the question out of the corner of the eye (the right one)
[09:53] <hateball> or if you dont mind a few gnome packages, apt-get install gparted
[09:53] <hateball> and use that
[09:53] <hateball> No harm done tictric_  ;)
[09:54] <hateball> I'm not a kde guy, is there a gparted equiv?
[09:54] <rasmus> well, i don't mind using gparted
[09:54] <rasmus> i guess, haven't tried it
[09:55] <tictric_> qtparted
[09:55] <hateball> ah :)
[09:55] <tictric_> ha
[09:55] <rasmus> should i use that instad?
[09:55] <hateball> well either works
[09:55] <rasmus> insted
[09:55] <rasmus> sorry, my spelling is getting wors
[09:55] <rasmus> to hungry ;-D
[09:55] <hateball> :D
[09:55] <hateball> I know the feeling
[09:55] <hateball> Been up for over 30 hours now with no sleep... and hungry
[09:56] <rasmus> are you native english speakers?
[09:56] <rasmus> oh, that's crazy
[09:56] <hateball>  /me hails from sweden
[09:56] <hateball> ..
[09:56] <rasmus> men va fan, kunde vi inte snacka svenska då?
[09:56] <hateball> English chan ;)
[09:56] <rasmus> ah
[09:56] <rasmus> hehe
[09:56] <hateball> Plus someone else could learn a thing :)
[09:57] <rasmus> yeah, that's allright
[09:57]  * hateball waits for his workbuddy to get into the office so he can go home
[09:57] <hateball> :|
[09:57] <hateball> Work yesterday... then party with work... afterparty... and then back to work
[09:57] <hateball> Haha
[09:58] <rasmus> haha, the way of the warrior
[09:58] <hateball> Indeed
[09:58] <hateball> 4 weeks of freedom await in about an hour tho :>
[09:58] <rasmus> sounds nice
[09:58] <hateball> So anyhow, how's gparted coming?
[09:58] <hateball> or qtparted
[09:58] <rasmus> Hm, qtparted thells me
[09:59] <rasmus> sdb1 has 465,61 gb free
[09:59] <hateball> Hmmm
[10:00] <hateball> Since there's nothing on it anyhow, you could try deleting the partition and creating a new
[10:00] <hateball> Just for the sake of it
[10:00] <hateball> Trial and error :D
[10:00] <rasmus> ok, ill do that. Maybe i should make it a FAT?
[10:00] <hateball> Yeah, FAT32 is a good choice if you intend to move it among PC's
[10:01] <rasmus> and i guess i'll have to
[10:01] <hateball> Unless you really need to have 4GB+ files on it
[10:01] <rasmus> no, i'll don't need to back up movies ;-)
[10:01] <hateball> can always split anyhow, just saying
[10:01]  * hateball cries out for kebab
[10:03] <rasmus> haha, ok, i'll try to fix this. Thanks alot for all the help! I'm indeed gratefull. And i wish you a pleasent vacation with alot of kebab
[10:03] <hateball> ;D
[10:03]  * hateball goes back to not doing anything
[10:12] <waylandbill> I have a touchpad that is not in convenient spot and it very sensitive. Moving my palm simply near it affects it. I disabled in the past using ksynaptics, but notice it is no longer available in the repos. How does one disable the touchpad without it?
[10:15] <gas001> remove the synaptics section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <slobad23> is there any reason why i would lose the outside part of my windows ?
[10:18] <waylandbill> gas001: and to enable it later, put it back in.. so I would want to comment it out. Easy enough.
[10:18] <slobad23> the minimize/maximize and close part around the window has vanishe
[10:18] <waylandbill> slobad23: the window decorations? are you running compiz (desktop effects) ?
[10:19] <slobad23> yeah - that's when it started :)
[10:19] <slobad23> all i have turned on is wobbly windows and desktop cube. should i just turn the thing off?
[10:20] <waylandbill> slobad23: that is one drawback. It's still pretty new software and has problems. Turning it off (using the standard kwin) should fix the problem.
[10:21] <slobad23> compiz is pretty new and clunky... or the version of kde i am using?
[10:21] <hateball> are you running emerald as window decorator?
[10:22] <slobad23> i am such a linux newbie - i have no idea hateball :)
[10:22] <hateball> :)
[10:22] <hateball> Well did the problem start when you turned on effects?
[10:22] <hateball> Or did it work at first?
[10:23] <slobad23> it works now - if i log out and back in its all ok again - it just turns off at seemingly random points. like just now i opened konquerer and all the window borders vanished. but i have opened it now and its back
[10:24] <Hamming> hey all :) are there any network specific trouble shooting channels?
[10:25] <hateball> It can be buggy like that
[10:26] <slobad23> ah ok
[10:26] <slobad23> as long as its not something i have done wrong
[10:26] <hateball> But you can just open a terminal and do: emerald --replace &
[10:26] <hateball> if thats what you're using
[10:26] <hateball> or if its kwin etc
[10:26] <hateball> you can check in compiz settings
[10:26] <slobad23> one day someone is going to tell me to put something in the terminal that is going to cause mayhem on my pc and i wont have any idea - i'll just do it without question :)
[10:27] <hateball> Have faith in the terminal, for it is the light
[10:28] <hateball> Like mum used to say, always google strangers
[10:28] <slobad23> apt-get is genius
[10:28] <hateball> It is indeed
[10:28] <slobad23> isnt emerald pretty :)
[10:29] <slobad23> oh no - i closed the terminal and the windows are gone again :)
[10:29] <hateball> thats why you need to launch with an & at the end
[10:29] <hateball> so it runs regardless
[10:29] <hateball> emerald --replace &
[10:30] <slobad23> i put the & in there
[10:30] <slobad23> but when i close the terminal it disappears
[10:30] <slobad23> i'll just leave the terminal open after emerald --replace &
[10:30] <hateball> hmmm
[10:30] <hateball> try using xterm
[10:30] <slobad23> :S
[10:30] <hateball> instead of konsole or whatever
[10:31] <slobad23> trying that now*
[10:32] <slobad23> here is how much of a NUB i am - where do i find xterm in this thing? :p
[10:32] <hateball> you can start it from konsole :p
[10:32] <hateball> xterm &
[10:33] <slobad23> still vanishing after closing the terminal
[10:33] <hateball> thats messed up
[10:34] <hateball> is emerald different to what you had before?
[10:34] <slobad23> look at the newbie go! i tried "sudo emerald --replace &" and its working without the terminal
[10:34] <hateball> hmmm
[10:35] <hateball> you shouldnt launch it as root tho
[10:35] <hateball> should work just fine anyhow
[10:35] <slobad23> give me my moment in the sun hateball :)
[10:35] <hateball> Just saying.... sudo'ing at random isnt good ;)
[10:35] <slobad23> ;)
[10:36] <slobad23> good to know though
[10:36]  * djwisdom thinks hateball is correct.
[10:36] <hateball> \o/
[10:36] <hateball> Yay.
[10:36] <slobad23> (b ^_^)b
[10:37] <hateball> Damn advanced asian smileys :|
[10:37]  * djwisdom thinks try doing  exec xterm &  then 'might' work
[10:37] <slobad23> what is "exec xterm &" all about
[10:37] <hateball> starting xterm
[10:37] <hateball> :)
[10:38] <Hamming> anyone here got experince using desktop sharing and  remote desktop connection???
[10:38] <hateball> I dunno how konsole works (gnome guy, dont shoot) but gnome-terminal wont accept &
[10:38] <hateball> Whereas xterm does
[10:38] <jussi01> & works with konsole
[10:39] <hateball> Well gnome-terminal accepts it, it just... ignores it and kills the app regardless when you close the terminal ;d
[10:39]  * djwisdom thinks yah: but the trick in closing the window is don't click the x button, just type exit. that'll let the executing program run and not close along with the previous terminal.
[10:39] <Hamming> are desktop sharing and remote desktop connection the simplest tools to use for remotely helping someone?
[10:40] <tictric_> slobad23: google a bit round. I remember there was a setting that one has to enable or disable to avoid that disappearing frame stuff
[10:40] <tictric_> I just cannot remember what it was and am not using anymore
[10:41] <Hamming> are there any other channels to get help?
[10:42] <jussi01> Hamming: Help with?
[10:42] <Hamming> me remotely controling my brothers comp and showing how to do some things
[10:43] <slobad23> thanks for all the help ladies and gents
[10:43] <Hamming> thro the two kde krdc and krfb programs
[10:52] <noaXess> hi all
[10:52] <noaXess> anybody an idea why k3b can't get audio data from freedb2.org?
[10:52] <noaXess> or is freedb2.org out, offline
[10:55] <waylandbill> okay. removing the synaptics section in the xorg configuration just makes the xserver fail. :-/
[11:05] <mooper> hiya, my mouse pointer has gone all weird
[11:05] <mooper> can I reset it?
[11:05] <mooper> its turned into a line of weirdness about an inch long
[11:06] <mooper> oh, its fixed its self now
[11:06] <HPDV2000> you can reset it at the system manager
[11:06] <HPDV2000> ... ^^;
[11:11] <elo_> guys i used to run kubuntu feisty and it's been a long time since i have personalized kubuntu, but i recently installed 8.04 and am kinda lost on a few things
[11:11] <elo_> for .deb files i remember having the ability to right click and choose to install it, on this new kubuntu i dont have that choice and have to use the console to do it. also i recently installed a few programs using the repositories and am unable to find any of them in the menu (i'm running the kde4 version)
[11:13] <elo_> also i just installed 7zip through adept yet i am unable to access it to unrar multiple rar files... ark is acting like an idiot so i am unable to use it to do the job
[11:16] <djdarkman> how can I make a user that has the right to access only 1 or more user specified directories?
[11:17] <djdarkman> I want to make a restricted user that can SSH on my PC but I don`t want it to access my stuff
[11:18] <djdarkman> just the webserver`s directory
[11:24] <powertoo1|lappy> Where can I remove a program from starting with kde at login, not in autostart, just saved from last logout
[11:26] <waylandbill> powertoo1|lappy: close the program before you log out.
[11:27] <powertoo1|lappy> waylandbill: I would but it was compiz and I can't see to close it
[11:29] <waylandbill> powertoo1|lappy: you actually have to set kwin as your window manager in that case.
[12:04] <cbus> morning
[12:04] <cbus> how do i add a ~/.Xdefaults?
[12:04] <cbus> kubuntu feels like ignoring the file :)
[12:23] <Assurbanipal> hi guys
[12:23] <Assurbanipal> i just moved from ubuntu to kubuntu but got no sound
[12:23] <cbus> hello
[12:24] <Assurbanipal> can plz someone help?
[12:26] <cbus> no clue whats wrong, but i do have problems with .Xdefaults :/
[12:44] <purrin> Hi
[12:45] <purrin> I've got a compaq presario b1900 and I can't get the sound to work with kubuntu this is my first linux experience any clues.
[12:49] <sherii> hi people
[12:53] <purrin> I've got a compaq presario b1900 and I can't get the sound to work with kubuntu this is my first linux experience, any clues please?
[12:53] <sbucatino> mm
[12:53] <flaccid> nntr purrin. have you checked alsamixer and kmix for volumes and mutes?
[12:53] <sbucatino> purrin: lspci | grep Audio
[12:54] <flaccid> purrin: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[12:54] <sbucatino> flaccid: i have a problem with xvidcap .... it seems is working on oss instead of alsa= low volume -.-''
[12:56] <flaccid> dang
[12:58] <purrin> flaccid: there was no sound from that command.
[12:59] <flaccid> purrin: what was the output?
[12:59] <purrin> ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[13:00] <flaccid> well sounds like the driver and alsa are working
[13:00] <purrin> flaccid: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[13:02] <purrin> I did a google search and it seems I'm not the only one with this problem
[13:02] <flaccid> a few people have reported this kind of thing recently but im not sure if the cases are the same
[13:06] <purrin> any suggestions on where I can go from here then please?
[13:06] <dr_Willis> Ubuntu/Kubuntu forums?
[13:07] <purrin> We tried those.
[13:11] <mooper> has anyone put kubuntu on an eee
[13:21] <dthacker> mooper: google is your friend, ask google http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:kubuntu:home
[13:30] <purrin> I tired the compaq website as well still no luck getting sound to work on compaq presario b1900 doesn't look like an immediately solvable probalem any other ideas guys?
[13:34] <dr_Willis> try some other disrtos with newer versions of the kernel/other packages. see if any of them work
[13:35] <dr_Willis>  my one  laptop issues vanished when i tried the next release of ubuntu
[13:41] <purrin> dmesg says: hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead. does that help?
[13:46] <nitin> hello, I can play mp3 songs but when I try to make audio cd by using k3b it says it can't find reqd. packages and asks me to convert to wav files. what package do I need?
[13:47] <dthacker> purrin: have you filed a bug?
[13:47] <purrin> no, I've just installed kubuntu and am new to it. I don't know enough to do that
[13:48] <dthacker> nitin: I use "make a data cd" if I'm going to put mp3 files on it.  My CD player reads it.
[13:53] <dr_Willis> theres some extra packages k3b needs to handle  mp3 - i THINK you can install the 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package and it will grab that package, and some others you mayu want.
[14:03] <chack-6> Bonjour, quel utilitaire de monitoring doit je utiliser pour monitorer des serveurs linux , en mode text
[14:05] <bazhang> !fr | chack-6
[14:06] <Cuaderno> sorry
[14:06] <Cuaderno> where is the grub.conf
[14:06] <Cuaderno> file_
[14:12] <ocs__> hi. how can i set a keyboard shortcut for changing the desktop ?
[14:13] <ocs__> found
[14:13] <ocs__> never mind
[14:16] <darcy> Does anyone know why my entire computer would lock up when I'm trying to burn an ISO with k3b?
[14:17] <darcy> What program would you recommend for burning DVD ISO files?
[14:18] <tdn> How do I delete all files that is in relative paths in a text file? Note that the file names may contain spaces that needs to be escaped.
[14:22] <dr_Willis> tdn,  some creative scripting and the use of xargs, may be needed.
[14:23] <dr_Willis> tdn,  in such complex cases. I often make a script that reads the file. then prints out the 'rm whatever' commands. so i can visually check to be sure its doing it right. befor i try the actual command.
[14:23] <tdn> dr_Willis, ok.
[14:23] <dr_Willis> the power of the command line. :)
[14:33] <compilerwriter> Well it took like three weeks but my x-session finally started acting really buggy.  It was a relief though to only have to restart x and not the whole blasted machine.
[14:47] <nordmoen> I'm having some problems unpacking a rar archive, getting CRC error, Ark is telling me that one of the rar files is missing but it is there...
[14:49] <Githzerai> nordmoen: maybe rar package name isn't correct
[14:49] <compilerwriter> does Kmail utilize sendmail to send mail?
[14:50] <jabba> where is my eth0 device defined? i can't find it in /dev
[14:50] <nordmoen> Githzerai: thanks, when you said it, I noticed that 2 small letters should have been bigg, thanks!!!
[14:50] <jabba> virtualbox needs to know what it's called so i can attach it to the interface, and just using 'eth0' doesn't work.
[14:51] <Filipe_PI> Brasileiros?
[14:51] <nordmoen> *capitalized sorry my English isn't the best
[14:52] <Filipe_PI> ???
[14:53] <Jucato> !br | Filipe_PI
[14:53] <Filipe_PI> Obrigado ubottu
[14:57] <Filipe_PI> ...
[14:57] <Filipe_PI> ...
[14:57] <Filipe_PI> Valeu,
[15:15] <evan__> why must i always start compiz manual?
[15:35] <spiroo> Is it possible to associate files to a certain wine application installed, so it works? For the moment it does not work to open correct application when I press open on a file.
[15:45] <jussi01> spiroo: yes it is - I have had it that .doc opens in word with crossover
[15:46] <jussi01> I just right clicked, then the spanner, then moved the app up on the list
[15:46] <spiroo> yes, I have phpDesigner which I want to work. But when I am trying to open it fails
[15:46] <spiroo> The process starts, but then it just dies
[15:48] <spiroo> I want all my web devlopment files like html, css, php and so on to associate to phpDesigner. That is the only editor that works good. Unfortunatly they do not develop it for linux.
[15:48] <mefistofele> have you ever tried eclipse, spiroo?
[15:48] <spiroo> mefistofele: Well, I think I have tried every single editor for linux :D
[15:49] <mefistofele> eclipse is not php-only so I dunno if you tried it or not
[15:49] <spiroo> And yes I have been testing Eclipse, and it is to much and I just hate the interface.
[15:51] <spiroo> I want a clean app, good support for projects, large projects, nice highlight, and if not I should be able to change every single syntax highlight, which no editor can today except Dreamweaver and phpDesigner 2008 as I know. The highlighter is the most important thing. Then it should have a nice and clean interface which not has anything if I do not want it. I want the screen ONLY to show my code and nothing else.
[15:51] <compilerwriter> Does kubuntu enable sendmail by default
[15:52] <spiroo> phpDesigner also have a build in debugger, which is quite nice and effectively does my job a lot easier, but it is not any requirement.
[15:53] <mefistofele> spiroo: you can set up the association under kcontrol->Default Applications->File Associations
[15:53] <spiroo> mefistofele: I already have.
[15:54] <mefistofele> but it's not working?
[15:54] <mefistofele> ah
[15:54] <spiroo> BUT when I am open the file, wine start phpDesigner, BUT it just dies before open the application or the file.
[15:54] <spiroo> The only thing that is working is to open phpDesigner itself and then inside the app open my files.
[15:54] <mefistofele> ok
[15:55] <mefistofele> try doing it from the command line
[15:55] <spiroo> Then I could open the files inside the app. I want easyness :D If I cannot get the most effectively way to do it, then I do not care .P
[15:55] <mefistofele> no, I mean
[15:56] <mefistofele> for debugging purposes
[15:56] <mefistofele> go to a directory with some php files you're working on
[15:56] <mefistofele> and do wine <wherever you have phpdesigner> <name of a php file>
[15:56] <spiroo> ah well, why should I? I use my webserver for that ;) What phpDesigner has is a live debugger which print error when I am coding.
[15:57] <mefistofele> spiroo: I'm asking you to duplicate on the command line what kde does when it launches phpdesigner with the association, so that we can see some useful debugging output on the command line to solve your problem.
[15:57] <spiroo> I have a open project which loads a directory. But It would be nice if I just could open the file by double click on someone, and then file and application loads.
[15:58] <mefistofele> spiroo: right now it seems to be failing silently and that doesn't give us any helpful information about how to fix the problem
[15:58] <mefistofele> spiroo: do you understand?
[15:58] <spiroo> mefistofele: Ah, hehe, well my english is not the best :D Well, i think I understand. You want me to do "wine <wherever you have phpdesigner> <name of a php file>"
[15:59] <mefistofele> that's character
[15:59] <mefistofele> er
[15:59] <mefistofele> correct
[15:59] <antonio_> alguien habla español?
[15:59] <spiroo> Well, it is going to take awhile, I have to go into right folder, and wine application folder to find.
[16:00] <mefistofele> ok
[16:04] <spiroo> mefistofele: Lol, but what is the path to wine and program files folder?
[16:04] <delilaz> hello everyone, kubuntu informed me to do a fsck in maintenance mode (# mount -n -o remount, rw/), My question is do I have to write the "#" sign and also do I have to do it as "sudo"
[16:06] <mefistofele> spiroo: wine should be in your path.  so all you have to do is "wine".  I don't know where your program files folder would be... that could be configured to go wherever you wanted
[16:07] <mefistofele> spiroo: probably it's in your home dir someplace, perhaps in .wine
[16:08] <spiroo> mefistofele: is this correct: "wine C:/Program\ Files/phpDesigner\ 2008/phpDesigner2008.exe index.php"
[16:08] <compilerwriter> !es
[16:08] <compilerwriter> | antonio
[16:09] <tvrtko> whats the gtype for unsigned long long in c?
[16:09] <mefistofele> spiroo: give it a try
[16:09] <spiroo> mefistofele, well nvm, it was correct. I had the app open. I closed and did the command.
[16:09] <delilaz> Is maintenance mode the same as recovery mode?
[16:10] <spiroo> mefistofele. Well, now it works, but when i open by double click or right click -> open then it does not work
[16:10] <compilerwriter> Is there a way to use kmail from the command line a la sendmail?
[16:12] <mefistofele> spiroo: it works on the command line but not from the gui?  gui is perhaps not configured properly then.  go into kcontrol and look at the file association
[16:13] <spiroo> mefistofele: Yes, it does work from command line and not gui. But the file association is correct and application opens halfway when I am opening a file. But the application dies before it opens the file.
[16:16] <spiroo> mefistofele: This is the command line which is configured at the moment which does not work: "env WINEPREFIX="/home/spiroo/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\phpDesigner 2008\phpDesigner2008.exe""
[16:17] <mefistofele> spiroo: add  to the end
[16:18] <spiroo> ?
[16:18] <mefistofele> whoops
[16:19] <mefistofele> add % U without the space inbetween to the end
[16:22] <tuxs> hello friends!I have problem with nvidia graphic driver on kubuntu!I installed Nvidia Driver(download from official site),but,since of restart Camputer,KDM not runned and it hanged in the black pages!(mysystem complete hanged!)
[16:24] <spiroo> mefistofele: It does not work, not sure if I have done right either.
[16:24] <spiroo> Is this correct?: "env WINEPREFIX="/home/spiroo/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\phpDesigner 2008\phpDesigner2008.exe""
[16:25] <spiroo> *"env WINEPREFIX="/home/spiroo/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\phpDesigner 2008\phpDesigner2008.exe""
[16:25] <tuxs> hello friends!I have problem with nvidia graphic driver on kubuntu!I installed Nvidia Driver(download from official site),but,since of restart Camputer,KDM not runned and it hanged in the black pages!(mysystem complete hanged!)
[16:27] <Tm_T> !nvidia | tuxs
[16:29] <spiroo> mefistofele: It does not work at all if application already is open
[16:29] <tuxs> ubottu:I installed it driver by this doc:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto  !!But,I have problem!
[16:31] <mefistofele> spiroo: making it do that is probably not possible
[16:31] <sparr> is there a program that can tile an animated gif?
[16:32] <tuxs> ubottu::(
[16:32] <mefistofele> spiroo: change it to this "env WINEPREFIX="/home/spiroo/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\phpDesigner 2008\phpDesigner2008.exe" % U" (remove space between % and U)
[16:33] <spiroo> mefistofele: Gah I hate to be an asshole, but Windows is better for webdevlopers and webdesigners. You could think the linux world would be the platform which have the best editors, but they just suck.
[16:34] <mefistofele> spiroo: personally I think eclipse is better than phpdesigner :)
[16:35] <spiroo> Why?
[16:35] <pierre_> Hi all - while updating using adept, I lost gnome !!! it's weired. any hint !
[16:39] <mefistofele> spiroo: eclipse supports emacs keybindings which I've gotten used to, has mylyn which integrates with trac/bugzilla/etc and has task contexts, has a mercurial plugin so I'm not forced to use svn for everything, can use zend's php debugger, is very smart about handling include paths and libraries
[16:41] <spiroo> mefistofele: Half of it I does not even know what it is. Probably because I dont need it :P But the most important like i said is highlight and interface as well as project structures.
[16:46] <Rioting_pacifist> !dhcp
[16:55] <ImLiz> hi all, I started my desktop in recovery mode and went to run fsck but a warning stated that my system is mounted... now I recieved this command in a previous fsck warning and wondered if it was written correctly to unmount "mount -n -o remount,rw/"????
[16:56] <ImLiz> anyone know?
[17:00] <niklas_> Hello folks :)
[17:03] <niklas_> I or better a friend of mine has a problem, after installing the Kubuntu 8.04 distribution on a laptop Grub won't startup and shows Error: 15, a manual grub-install /dev/sda then only let us boot to a grub command line ( grub> ) but doesn't load the grub menu file. any tipsto solve that? thank you in advance :)
[17:03] <makdaknife> ImLiz: you can simply unmount using the umount command... however, if you want to fsck the partition that you system is running on, then you will need to boot off of a live CD
[17:05] <makdaknife> niklas_: you may want to look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297261
[17:06] <makdaknife> niklas_: I generally fix grub problems by booting off of a live cd and then mounting the disks that I am working with, chrooting them and working within that sort of framework
[17:07] <makdaknife> niklas_: you may find some help googling for: knoppix fix grub
[17:08] <niklas_> so you mean a live cd other than the kubuntu install live cd?
[17:16] <ImLiz> makdaknife: so the command given above won't work to check the system I'm running on?? It automatically has to be off a live cd... and then fsck /dev/hda3?
[17:18] <ImLiz> I had already done that before and it stated no problem yet the moniter still blacks out at times when starting kubuntu the first time.
[17:22] <makdaknife> ImLiz: you could try this: http://www.howforge.com/how-force-fsck-ubuntu
[17:22] <makdaknife> ImLiz: if the monitor is blacking out, it doesn't sound like something you will fix with fsck
[17:22] <maduser> how do i configure my mircophone?
[17:24] <makdaknife> maduser:  could you be more specific about your problem?
[17:25] <maduser> I am trying to use ekiga and it doesn't see my mic
[17:25] <llutz> Moin
[17:25] <mike> moin
[17:26] <maduser> nevermind i got it
[17:26] <maduser> switched adio drives
[17:26] <makdaknife> maduser: great stuff :-)
[17:27] <maduser> now I have to configure firefox to see sip
[17:29] <makdaknife> maduser: sorry I can't help with that... I haven't looked into it
[17:30] <maduser> k
[17:33] <bona> german ubuntu channel?
[17:34] <alumno> am halo
[17:34] <jpds> bona: -> #kubuntu-de und #ubuntu-de
[17:35] <bona> thx
[17:37] <maduser> is there a kubuntu sip room?
[17:51] <r0iz> ээ
[18:13] <Yarcanox> kdebase-kde4 is already the newest version.
[18:13] <Yarcanox> my kde4 seems to be pretty outdated
[18:14] <Yarcanox> and dolphin is always crashing :/
[18:14] <Yarcanox> I added the "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" and still I have no newer version there than kde 4.0.5
[18:16] <Yarcanox> isn't there a newer version available?
[18:18] <snirp> hi, question: how do I start the Ati Catalyst Control from konsole? It is installed but does not show in the start menu. a.k.a. fglrx-control. Using KDE 4.1.
[18:21] <snirp> anyone?
[18:24] <snoper> kurgs
[18:25] <snirp> come again?
[18:27] <snoper> kurgs
[18:29] <snirp> just once more, to please the crowd!
[18:29] <snoper> kurgs kurgs kurgs
[18:30] <snirp> WOOOWWWW, did not solve my problem though ;-(
[18:32] <snoper> snirp oh you have a problem :0
[18:32] <snirp> yup, want me tell more about it?
[18:32] <snoper> gimme a sec
[18:34] <snoper> snirp try this command dpkg -l
[18:34] <snoper> snirp gives you a list of installed programs
[18:34] <snirp> ok
[18:35] <snirp> fglrx-control  1:8-3+<IP_ADDRESS> Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerat
[18:35] <snoper> okay did you try running fgrlx
[18:36] <snirp> command not found, doesn work with sudo either
[18:38] <snirp> found file fgrlx on /usr/share/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.24-19-generic/modules.alias.override
[18:38] <snoper> see if it appears somwhere in system settings
[18:40] <snirp> on a general note: is it possible to add and remove links/programs from the KDE 4.1 start menu?
[18:40] <bobo> is there a samba channel on here
[18:40] <snirp> not on system settings
[18:41] <orvv_> does kubuntu install have like a remote shell option like gentoo?
[18:42] <orvv_> I take that as a no
[18:43] <bobo> anyone is there a samba channel on this thing
[18:44] <gkffjcs> bobo try #samba.
[18:49] <snirp> kurgs
[18:51] <DarkAudit> I have to sudo to completely eject my ipod in KDE. How can I fix this?
[18:55] <bobo_> anyone in here good with samba
[18:57] <bobo_> please anyone
[18:58] <rickest> just ask your question
[19:04] <bobo_> what
[19:06] <pteague_work> did kubuntu do something to reset the nice value on strigi threads to be 19 ??
[19:27] <BenPa85> hi guys
[19:28] <BenPa85> can someone tell me how I can change the apps showed in the application launcher?
[19:31] <timo_> hi there
[19:31] <timo_> i'm getting a blue screen when trying to play a dvd on kubunut
[19:32] <timo_> think there's something wrong with codec
[19:40] <bfrog> is kubuntu inaccessible?
[19:40] <bfrog> the website?
[19:40] <bfrog> I get some squid error
[19:41] <OutoLumo> bfrog, it seems to be
[19:41] <rickest> bfrog: works here
[19:41] <bfrog> weird
[19:41] <rickest> kubuntu.org?
[19:42] <OutoLumo> "Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect. "
[19:43] <rickest> ahh, try dropping 'www.'.  no idea what they're doing
[19:43] <OutoLumo> timo_, have you checked the restrected formats wikipage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:43] <rickest> I get the same thing /with/ 'www.kubu...'
[19:44] <OutoLumo> rickest, I get the error from: http://kubuntu.org/
[19:44] <rickest> er, it's doing it to me now, too
[19:44] <BenPa85> when I install an application, I can access it from the kicker with the textbox, but it's not present in the correct categorie, what must I do to update kicker?
[19:45] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, do you mean, how to edit the K-menu?
[19:46] <rickest> kubuntu site is back up
[19:47] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: no, when I look in the folders the applications are in the right categories, but the K-Menu doesn't show them, what must I do to update K-Menu?
[19:48] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, what folders? Which apps?
[19:48] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: sry, i've installed some new applications, but they don't show up in K-Menu
[19:49] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: when I check the corresponding folders, the apps are still in the right categorie ...
[19:49] <OutoLumo> rickest, not for me... still down....
[19:49] <rickest> OutoLumo: same again here now
[19:50] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, What folders are you talking about? Where are they? I have the app. binaries (mostly) in /usr/bin "folder" or directory, but what do you mean by that?
[19:51] <OutoLumo> So, which utility have you used to install them?
[19:51] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: there is an folder representing the entrys of K-Menu, do you know this?
[19:51] <Nece228> whats the bug with qtcurve and gtk apps?
[19:52] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, Is there? Where is that folder?
[19:52] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: i've used adept manager to install the apps (apps installed correctly)
[19:52] <rickest> there's `kmenuedit' also
[19:53] <OutoLumo> I would just right-click the K-menu button, but what is this folder thingy?
[19:54] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: sry can't find the option now, there was an edit button for K-Menu what opened a file-browser with folders for each category in k-menu
[19:55] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, try rightclicking the K-menu button and selecting "Menu editor"
[19:56] <BenPa85> OutoLumo: there is no "Menu editor", just: Application launcher settings, Panel settings, Add Widgets..., Remove this application launcher
[19:58] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, are you sure you clicked the button and not the panel?
[19:59] <BenPa85> OutoLumo, yeah, but on the hole panel comes the same menu ...
[19:59] <BenPa85> (using kde 4)
[20:00] <eloquence> sup guys... what program can i add from repositories that will allow me to right-click to unrar files?
[20:00] <OutoLumo> ok... Well, I'm just 3.5. There are still glitches in 4, it may be a bug. Ask the developers.
[20:00] <eloquence> i added 7zip from adept installer and thought it would be like the windows version but it was command line
[20:00] <BenPa85> OutoLumo, k :( thx
[20:00] <OutoLumo> eloquence, maybe ark ?
[20:00] <eloquence> ark came with kubuntu
[20:00] <BenPa85> is there an option to use the windows key to open k-menu?
[20:01] <eloquence> but it only get one choice fro right clicking... open with...
[20:01] <eloquence> it's the same problem i have with not being able to install .deb packages through right clicking
[20:01] <eloquence> i used to be able to do it in feisty
[20:02] <OutoLumo> BenPa85, as for KDE4, I think channel KDE might be more appropriate. KDE3.5 is still default for kubuntu...
[20:02] <OutoLumo> eloquence, wait a sec...
[20:03] <eloquence> i miss automatix :S
[20:03] <BenPa85> OutoLumo, just for info: you can open the k-menu folder with, start konquerer -> choose applications
[20:03] <BenPa85> OutoLumo, k thx for the info
[20:04] <OutoLumo> eloquence, this should do the trick: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KUnRAR?content=33751
[20:05] <eloquence> thanks a lot
[20:06] <eloquence> any idea on the .debs?
[20:06] <eloquence> in feisty i used to be able to install from the right click menu
[20:08] <solaries> any suggestions for (possibly commercial) speech recognition software for linux?
[20:09] <jussi01> eloquence: .debs should install with double/single click
[20:09] <OutoLumo> eloquence, check this out: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Service+menus+for+Debian?content=62062
[20:10] <jussi01> solaries: there is nothing native. dragon naturally speaking works well in wine though
[20:10] <solaries> jussio1: is it possible then to e.g. pipe the text into emacs?
[20:10] <eloquence> hmm
[20:10] <jussi01> solaries: no idea, sorry
[20:10] <eloquence> my ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror doesnt have a servisemenus/ directory
[20:11] <eloquence> should i make it?
[20:11] <OutoLumo> solaries, GIYF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_speech_recognition_software
[20:11] <OutoLumo> eloquence, feel free :-)
[20:11] <eloquence> (i use the kde4 version of kubuntu) i think i mainly use Dolphin to do stuff
[20:12] <OutoLumo> eloquence, I don't know how those behave with KDE4, good luck :-)
[20:13] <solaries> OutoLumo: I know that link already. Tried simon+julius. But it crashed and did not accept any microphone
[20:13] <Nece228> i have problem with my mic
[20:14] <Nece228> i had +20 db selected
[20:14] <Nece228> now sound is good but its flickering
[20:14] <Nece228> i mean recording volume is good but its flickering
[20:14] <OutoLumo> solaries, by the way, as this isn't really a kubuntu specific issue, you might find it more fruitful to ask from some more audio-oriented chatroom... :-7
[20:15] <wesley_> !adeptfix
[20:29] <des_> do i have to burn iso before installing kubuntu?
[20:30] <mitch__> hey I need help installing flash player on kubuntu.
[20:30] <mitch__> can someone help
[20:30] <mitch__> plz
[20:31] <Nece228> mitch__: what browser you are using?
[20:31] <seisen> wow a whopping minute before they left
[20:32] <Dillizar> where can i find a divx conv.
[20:32] <Nece228> mitch__: are you using firefox?
[20:32] <des_> what's wrong with kubuntu site? i can't access it
[20:33] <seisen> works fine for me
[20:33] <seisen> Nece228, mitch__ left the room
[20:33] <Nece228> des_: its still under construction
[20:33] <Dillizar> divx converter where can i find
[20:34] <Nece228> seisen: thx, but u sayd that too late :D
[20:34] <seisen> which site are we talking about?
[20:34] <Nece228> seisen: i knew that first
[20:34] <seisen> kubuntu.org
[20:34] <dr_Willis> Dillizar,  ffmpeg, or avidmux can do that.
[20:34] <dr_Willis> !find avid
[20:34] <dr_Willis> oops avidemux :)
[20:34] <des_> While trying to retrieve the URL: http://kubuntu.org/
[20:34] <des_> The following error was encountered:
[20:34] <des_> Access Denied.
[20:34] <Dillizar> where can i find this
[20:35] <Nece228> des_: click on link
[20:35] <Nece228> des_: While trying to retrieve the URL: http://kubuntu.org/
[20:35] <des_> on that link?
[20:35] <seisen> ya that works fine for me
[20:35] <Nece228> des_: When ull get that error message click again on that link
[20:35] <des_> same thing
[20:35] <dr_Willis> Dillizar,  they are in the package manager. You may want the ffmpeg from the medibunti repository - it has more features
[20:35] <des_> access denied
[20:36] <dr_Willis> !medibuntu | Dillizar
[20:36] <seisen> are you behind a proxy des?
[20:36] <Nece228> des_: click on it many times
[20:36] <des_> it also says: Generated Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:36:26 GMT by jujube.canonical.com (squid/2.6.STABLE18)
[20:37] <des_> Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time.
[20:37] <evilmachine_> can someone help me with a plasma problem?
[20:38] <dr_Willis> !kde4
[20:38] <evilmachine_> thx
[20:39] <des_> i can use internet normally, everything works, but not kubuntu site
[20:39] <evilmachine_> dns problem?
[20:39] <des_> Access Denied.
[20:39] <des_> Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
[20:40] <des_> hmm
[20:40] <seisen> maybe it doesn't like you des?
[20:40] <evilmachine_> it seems your provider is blocking the site
[20:40] <des_> maybe it's blocked by isp?`
[20:40] <fildo> STOP  SLEEPING  AND  WAKE UP ALL OF U!!
[20:40] <des_> seisen, probably because i use windows
[20:40] <seisen> lol
[20:41] <seisen> its a conspiracy
[20:41] <evilmachine_> try it throug mywebtunnel.com
[20:42] <jdbart> somehow my konqueror got uninstalled (my fault i just don't know how i did it) and now when i try to reinstall it a get a vauge error message
[20:42] <seisen> which is what, jdbart?
[20:42] <evilmachine_> well ive got the same problem as des
[20:42] <dr_Willis> kubuntu.com is down?
[20:43] <evilmachine_> kubuntu.org is not reachable from here
[20:43] <rickest> des_: the kubuntu site has been doing up and down this afternoon at least
[20:43] <rickest> s/doing/going/
[20:43] <dr_Willis> http://kubuntu.org/ works here for me
[20:43] <seisen> its down again
[20:43] <jdbart> it just says error were encountered while processing and the the file for the konqueror package
[20:43] <rickest> yes, it's cycling
[20:44] <des_> works with http://www.thefreeproxy.us
[20:44] <OutoLumo> kubuntu.org works now
[20:45] <OutoLumo> not anymore...
[20:45] <OutoLumo> but now...
[20:45] <OutoLumo> and not anymore...
[20:45] <Odd-rationale> wow! i like the new site!
[20:45] <des_> i can only access it thru a proxy
[20:45] <OutoLumo> Seems that the site is being reworked and occasionally tested?
[20:46] <jdbart> seisen, if you can tell me how to post the whole output i will
[20:46] <OutoLumo> it loads now, but every load shows different layout :-7
[20:46] <seisen> you can copy it to pastebin
[20:46] <seisen> !pastebin | jdbart
[20:47] <evilmachine_> kubuntu.org doesnt like other countries^^
[20:47] <timo_> help my kde panel is lost :O
[20:48] <timo_> i use kde4.0
[20:48] <evilmachine_> the application panel on the bottom?
[20:48] <timo_> yes
[20:50] <jdbart> seisen, this is the url i hope i did it right...    http://paste.ubuntu.com/26525/
[20:50] <evilmachine_> i had the same problem. go to folder /home/username/.kde4/share/config and delete the plasma-appletsrc and the plasmarc file. then type into the terminal killall plasma && plasma
[20:50] <timo_> evilmachine_:  do you know a solution?
[20:51] <timo_> thx
[20:51] <evilmachine_> if you cannot access the terminal delete the files and just reboot your computer
[20:54] <evilmachine_> did it work timo?
[20:55] <timo_> evilmachine_:  You're not that evil :)
[20:55] <timo_> evilmachine_:  thanks!!!! :D
[20:56] <evilmachine_> perfect^^
[20:56] <pritam> hi :)
[20:57] <pritam> can someone help me with this error message that i get when installing packages or even updating adept
[20:57] <pritam> "There was an error committing changes
[20:57] <pritam> i tried everything mentioned on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-331085.html
[20:57] <pritam> but the error keeps coming
[20:58] <kde_> a
[20:58] <seisen> jdbart try this: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/konqueror_*.deb
[20:58] <evilmachine_> hmm. you already tried dpkg --reconfigure -a?
[20:59] <pritam> yeah i did
[20:59] <evilmachine_> did it run without errors?
[21:00] <pritam> gives this error dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[21:00] <jdbart> thanks seisen that worked
[21:00] <seisen> np
[21:02] <evilmachine_> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:02] <pritam> yeah thats what i did
[21:02] <evilmachine_> any errors?
[21:02] <pritam> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[21:03] <pritam> i am getting this when i try it now
[21:03] <evilmachine_> type killall dpkg and try again
[21:03] <pritam> ok
[21:04] <pritam> gives this error now
[21:04] <pritam> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:05] <pritam> libgcc1
[21:05] <pritam> libwxgtk2.4-python
[21:05] <pritam> libsigc++-2.0-0c2a
[21:05] <pritam> libstdc++6
[21:08] <smarty> how do you install a KDE4 theme?
[21:08] <smarty> I cant find the theme manager
[21:09] <kde_> do you mean kde4 itself or just the theme
[21:09] <smarty> I got KDE4
[21:09] <smarty> I think
[21:09] <smarty> one sec
[21:09] <smarty> yea i have kde4
[21:10] <kde_> and you need what know
[21:10] <smarty> well
[21:11] <smarty> I think i need to install compix
[21:11] <smarty> compiz
[21:11] <smarty> forgot how to
[21:11] <smarty>  :(
[21:11] <kde_> you can install it through the adept
[21:12] <kde_> brb smoke brek
[21:12] <kde_> break*
[21:12] <smarty> lol k
[21:14] <OutoLumo> It seems that everyone is using KDE4 these days... Wonder if I should too...
[21:14] <smarty> i like da looks
[21:18] <bfrog> kde4 is sweet, love the runner
[21:18] <OutoLumo> So do I, but until lately there were some regressions with the panels... I've heard they are dealt with, but I need to check it.
[21:18] <kde_> ok im back
[21:19] <kde_> i have a question now
[21:20] <kde_> how do convert mp3 files to wav so i can burn an audio cd
[21:20] <smarty> on linux or windows :P
[21:20] <kde_> linux
[21:20] <smarty> hmm
[21:20] <kde_> dont use windows anymore
[21:20] <smarty> lol
[21:21] <smarty> arent mp3's meant to be played on a CD?
[21:21] <smarty> btw idk if this help
[21:21] <smarty> http://www.patoche.org/LTT/all/00000209.html
[21:21] <Canageek> Use k3b
[21:21] <kde_> i need it to play in wav or ogg format
[21:21] <kde_> k3b keeps giving me an error on it
[21:22] <OutoLumo> kde_, mpg123 -w song.wav song.mp3
[21:22] <kde_> what is that
[21:22] <pritam> "There was an error committing changes
[21:22] <kde_> is it in adept
[21:22] <OutoLumo> kde_, command that converts song.mp3 file into song.wav file.
[21:22] <OutoLumo> mpg123 in the program
[21:23] <kde_> im lost
[21:23] <kde_> use it in terminal
[21:23] <smarty> ya
[21:24] <kde_> so do that and replace song with the actual title
[21:24] <OutoLumo> yes, that is a command to be given in the terminal
[21:24] <OutoLumo> yes
[21:24] <OutoLumo> try it :-)
[21:24] <kde_> ok thanks
[21:26] <pritam> can any one help
[21:26] <pritam> "There was an error committing changes
[21:26] <OutoLumo> kde_, if you want to convert mp3 files to ogg, i suggest mp32ogg. It's in the repos.
[21:26] <pritam> i get this error when installing packagees
[21:27] <OutoLumo> pritam, you are using adept, I take. Which packages?
[21:28] <pritam> Python-GTK2
[21:28] <OutoLumo> Hmm...
[21:30] <OutoLumo> Try running "sudo apt-get install Python-GTK2" on terminal, and see if it gives any more info?
[21:31] <pritam> yeah
[21:32] <pritam> it says : E: Couldn't find package Python-GTK2
[21:32] <kde_> how do i install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:35] <pritam> any other suggestions
[21:36] <OutoLumo> pritam, aahha...
[21:39] <OutoLumo> pritam, try "sudo apt-get update"
[21:42] <aakash_> SIGSEGV error keeps popping up
[21:43] <aakash_> any ideas anyone?
[21:43] <kde_> does anyone in here know how i can install mp3 encoding to soundconverter
[21:45] <Chrysalis> how do i save the navigation pannel to show when i restart in knoqueror, it keeps going away everytime i restart
[21:46] <OutoLumo> kde_, you might need gstreamer-lame package for that...
[21:46] <OutoLumo> Chrysalis, KDE3 or KDE4?
[21:46] <Chrysalis> 3
[21:47] <OutoLumo> Chrysalis, try "Settings"->"Save profile Web"
[21:48] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: does that create a profile?
[21:48] <ishbale> hey guys any1 know a good program for the ipod "TOUCH"
[21:48] <OutoLumo> kde, you may also want to take a look at this... http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/soundKonverter?content=29024
[21:49] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: just wonding if i am not overwriting some other settings if it creates a profile
[21:49] <OutoLumo> Chrysalis, that's the default profile when you use the web. If you want to create new profile, select the next option: "Configure view profile"
[21:49] <ishbale> hey guys any1 know a good program for the ipod "TOUCH"
[21:50] <ishbale> hmm
[21:50] <ishbale> no one knows?
[21:51] <OutoLumo> ishbale, Amarok?-)
[21:51] <ishbale> can i have link]
[21:52] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: works btw, thanks
[21:52] <aakash_> ishbale, can you please clarify what type of program you are looking for?
[21:52] <aakash_> Amarok generally comes preinstalled
[21:52] <aakash_> and if its not
[21:53] <aakash_> it can be easily installed with Adept
[21:53] <ishbale> any that will sync my music to my ipod touch
[21:53] <aakash_> you need itunes
[21:53] <ishbale> damn
[21:53] <smarty> Yep
[21:53] <smarty> :)
[21:53] <smarty> However
[21:53] <smarty> there may be someother program
[21:53] <smarty> Give me a sec, I'll look
[21:53] <smarty> I doubt it tho
[21:54] <ishbale> well i saw vids on youtube
[21:54] <ishbale> lol
[21:54] <smarty> Hmm
[21:54] <smarty>  Okay
[21:54] <smarty> Give me a few minutes
[21:54] <ishbale> k
[21:55] <kde_> i found it its called mp3burn
[21:56] <OutoLumo> Chrysalis, btw, if you have some sites you want to open as one session, just open them in tabs and save as a profile. Then you can load that profile, or even kickstart it from the panel.
[21:57] <smarty> is there a such thing similar to System Restore (Windows) in kubuntu?
[21:57] <SebNaitsabes> lol not by default
[21:57] <SebNaitsabes> there might be a program like that you can install
[21:58] <SebNaitsabes> ,but Linux dosan't really need stuff like that
[21:58] <OutoLumo> smarty, what would you like to do?
[21:58] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: nice, ive been forcing myself to use it over firefox cause its just so powerfull, but everytime i get my hopes up i come accross some site that doesnt work or wierd looking fonts
[21:58] <SebNaitsabes> since unlike  Windows,  Linux is made good
[21:58] <smarty> :)
[21:58] <__Ping__> hey
[21:58] <SebNaitsabes> of course if you had a kubuntu in a virtual machine
[21:58] <__Ping__> does anyone know how to change a user's /home directory?
[21:58] <SebNaitsabes> you could use snapshots in the VM software or a copy of your kubuntu vm
[21:58] <smarty> oh ya
[21:59] <__Ping__> I've got a weird predicament: my /home directory is on another partition
[21:59] <SebNaitsabes> ,but if  Windows is going to be your host for that,  uhmmmmmmm no :)
[21:59] <__Ping__> which is supposed to automount as /home, but it doesn't.
[21:59] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, I doubt if that is possible. Try creating a new user and move all the stuff over.
[21:59] <smarty> i thought you set the directory when u install?
[21:59] <__Ping__> so I get stuck with this autocreated /home
[21:59] <smarty> oh never mind
[21:59] <SebNaitsabes> Linux as the host :)  with Windows as a guest if on there at all, that's how it should be :)
[21:59] <smarty> read it wrong
[22:00] <OutoLumo> smarty, so your problem is really, that the home partition doesn't automount?
[22:00] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, that was meant to be
[22:00] <smarty> lol yep
[22:01] <__Ping__> OutuLumo: I guess so
[22:01] <__Ping__> hmm
[22:01] <__Ping__> Manual mount seems to do the trick
[22:01] <__Ping__> brb
[22:02] <__Ping__> Yup, manual mount does the trick.
[22:02] <__Ping__> So I just need to make it automount at boot time
[22:02] <__Ping__> :/
[22:03] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, what does your /etc/fstab file say about the partition?
[22:03] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: bah, would you happen to know how to get the welcome page back up with the konq logo etc? i unchecked save url and its gone
[22:03] <__Ping__>  /dev/sda6 /home ext3 nouser,noauto,atime,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[22:05] <Chrysalis> OutoLumo: nm, deleting the profile fixed it
[22:05] <electro_> hello can someone help me out?
[22:05] <ishbale> so yah can i install itunes with wine???
[22:05] <dr_Willis> __Ping__,  why the Noauto  option?
[22:05] <OutoLumo> Chrysalis, ok
[22:06] <__Ping__> dunno, it did that itself
[22:06] <__Ping__> is that my problem?
[22:06] <ishbale> so yah can i install itunes with wine???
[22:06] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, most likely
[22:06] <__Ping__> cool.
[22:06] <__Ping__> I'll give that a shot
[22:06] <dr_Willis> __Ping__,  You realize that noauto means do not mount at boot. :) or with mount -a
[22:06]  * __Ping__ is a n00b
[22:07] <dr_Willis> __Ping__,   I doubt if you really want/need all those 'noXXX' options.
[22:07] <dr_Willis> __Ping__,  noexec will cause issues with the users having any executables in their homedirs also.
[22:07] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, I guess you don't know what the /etc/fstab file is, even?-)
[22:07] <__Ping__> well, I know _what_ it is
[22:07] <__Ping__> I'm just not familiar with its options
[22:07] <OutoLumo> __Ping__, you are not THAT n00b then :-7
[22:07] <dr_Willis> __Ping__,  I imagine if you stuck with the 'Defaults' it would be fine.
[22:08] <__Ping__> cool, thanks.
[22:13] <sgallinger> !fglrx
[22:15] <__Ping__> oh this is weird.
[22:15] <__Ping__> I've got no sound.
[22:15] <sgallinger> will fglrx work for a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[22:16] <__Ping__> My fresh Kubuntu 8.04 install has no sound.
[22:16] <__Ping__> This is weird.
[22:17] <crimsun> not necessarily.  Are the speakers/headphones plugged in?  Are the mixer elements muted?
[22:17] <__Ping__> Nothing's muted.
[22:17] <__Ping__> Wait a minute
[22:17] <__Ping__> there's the sound
[22:18] <__Ping__> for some reason
[22:18] <__Ping__> it has my front and back audio switched.
[22:18] <ubuntu> help
[22:19] <ubuntu> my problem  is /etc/init.d/rcS
[22:19] <ubuntu> my system no response
[22:19] <crimsun> __Ping__: you can file a bug against linux.  Make sure you attach output from alsa-info.sh.
[22:20] <OutoLumo> ubuntu, there's one line in that script: exec /etc/init.d/rc S
[22:20] <__Ping__> 'k. Erm, where would I file this bug?
[22:20] <crimsun> __Ping__: launchpad.net.  The name of the source package is 'linux'.
[22:21] <crimsun> __Ping__: wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems has the URL for alsa-info.sh
[22:21] <__Ping__> cool, thanks
[22:23] <OutoLumo> ubuntu, is your /etc/init.d/rc corrupt? My md5 sum is: ea24521cbaf6febb9f0f06349a986508
[22:23] <jhutchins_wk> OutoLumo: He's gone.
[22:24] <OutoLumo> jhutchins_wk, dang :-/
[22:27] <Elefante_Dourado> algum brasileiro?
[22:27] <Elefante_Dourado> algum brasileiro?
[22:27] <Elefante_Dourado> algum brasileiro?
[22:29] <erik_lizardi> alguien de mexico
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> !br | Elefante_Dourado
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> !es
[22:38] <_r1_> hi
[22:38] <_r1_> I have issues with kmail/kontact
[22:39] <_r1_> since an upgrade (not my pc... so I guess that's it but not sure)
[22:39] <_r1_> it refuse to launch
[22:39] <_r1_> kmail launch alone
[22:39] <_r1_> but if I open any directory (only pop account and some local directories)
[22:40] <vipex> Hi! Does anyone know any good seeds to download linuxx to CD?
[22:40] <_r1_> Kwin freeze :/
[22:40] <_r1_> Is that a known issue ?
[22:41] <_r1_> I actually try to delete files and directories to understand from where come the bug... without solution
[22:41] <_r1_> If any idea
[22:41] <vipex> is here anyone who's helpin u?
[22:41] <_r1_> vipex: not for the moment
[22:41] <_r1_> :)
[22:41] <vipex> Ok
[22:41] <_r1_> will see later
[22:42] <vipex> how  u did tht?
[22:42] <vipex> red txt
[22:42] <vipex> like private chat or something?
[22:42] <_r1_> vipex: by writing "vipex" in the sentece
[22:42] <_r1_> sentence
[22:42] <vipex> like this "_r1_
[22:42] <vipex> "
[22:42] <_r1_> yes
[22:43] <vipex> "_r1_"yo?
[22:43] <vipex> is it seems now red on you
[22:43] <_r1_> right
[22:43] <vipex> u see it red?
[22:43] <vipex> Wohoo
[22:43] <_r1_> and thanks, now, nobody can see my problem :/
[22:43] <vipex> ty:D
[22:43] <vipex> I dont know anything about ubuntu sry:(
[22:44] <ishbale> hey guys hoow do i run a .sh file on ubuntu
[22:44] <ishbale> how
[22:44] <vipex> I got lot of problems too , but im getting soon new  acer gemstone laptop
[22:44] <vipex> but see ya guys
[22:45] <ishbale> hey guys hoow do i run a .sh file on ubuntu
[22:46] <Kharza> ishbale: just ./foo.sh
[22:46] <ishbale> i just got crossover-pro 6.2.0 how do i install it
[22:46] <ishbale> wat that
[22:46] <Kharza> Or run sh foo.sh
[22:47] <ishbale> k where can i get it
[22:47] <Kharza> What?
[22:47] <ishbale> foo.sh
[22:47] <Kharza>  < ishbale> hey guys hoow do i run a .sh file on ubuntu
[22:47] <ishbale> yah and
[22:47] <Kharza> I mean, do it on your .sh file
[22:47] <ishbale> k
[22:47] <Kharza> What ever it's name is
[22:47] <ishbale> explain im noob
[22:47] <ishbale> lol
[22:48] <Kharza> replace the "foo.sh" with the .sh-file you want to execute
[22:49] <ishbale> huh
[22:49] <ishbale> is this in terminal
[22:50] <Kharza> Yup
[22:51] <compilerwriter> I generally use Kontakt and thus kmail for email.  Once in a while, whilst I am working in terminal it would be nice to be able to just fire a file in someone's direction.  Can I simply invoke kmail from the command line?
[22:51] <ishbale> install-crossover-pro-6.2.0.sh thats the program wat would i put in the terminal
[22:52] <ishbale> install-crossover-pro-6.2.0.sh thats the program wat would i put in the terminal
[23:05] <ishbale> k what do i type in to get x-server
[23:05] <ishbale> ?
[23:05] <The> hi
[23:06] <ishbale> k what do i type in to get x-server
[23:06] <ishbale> k what do i type in to get x-server
[23:07] <ishbale> grrrrrrrrrr
[23:07] <ishbale> k what do i type in to get x-server
[23:08] <maybeway36> startx
[23:09] <ishbale> idk
[23:09] <ishbale> huh
[23:09] <sgallinger> hi
[23:09] <sgallinger> I have a ATI 330m/340m/350m and I am having a hard time getting fglrx to work
[23:09] <sgallinger> with the command sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[23:10] <ishbale> it says not authorize how  do i fix that
[23:10] <sgallinger> I get insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[23:11] <ishbale> it says not authorize how  do i fix that
[23:11] <vipex> hey , anyone knows where i can download quake arena 3 demo to kubuntu . Thanks! thanks anyway if u dont know what is  quake.
[23:12] <ishbale> for xstart
[23:12] <ishbale> it says not authorize how  do i fix that
[23:12] <ishbale> it says not authorize how  do i fix that
[23:12] <ishbale> for xstart
[23:12] <vipex>  hey , anyone knows where i can download quake arena 3 demo to kubuntu . Thanks! thanks anyway if u dont know what is  quake:D
[23:13] <vipex> do ya know?
[23:13] <vipex> ishbale
[23:13] <maybeway36> ishbale: which user are you logged in as?
[23:13] <maybeway36> also try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[23:13] <ishbale> my only 1
[23:14] <vipex> maybeway do u know game called = Quake 3 arena
[23:14] <maybeway36> not really
[23:14] <vipex> Okay
[23:14] <vipex> Thanks,
[23:14] <maybeway36> ive heard of it but never polayed it
[23:14] <vipex> Ok , im dunno where i can download that game
[23:15] <vipex> i*
[23:15] <maybeway36> a little googling found this site: http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake3-arena/index.php?game_section=demo
[23:15] <maybeway36> download the linux version, uncompress it, and then run in a terminal with sudo
[23:15] <vipex> k
[23:15] <vipex> thx
[23:15] <ishbale> damnit
[23:15] <ishbale> it wont work
[23:16] <Cheezwhiz> Afternoon all
[23:16] <ishbale> for xstart
[23:16] <ishbale> it wont work
[23:17] <maybeway36> i don't think "xstart is a command
[23:17] <ishbale> wat do i do to make it work
[23:17] <maybeway36> try startx
[23:17] <ishbale> o ya that
[23:17] <maybeway36> also try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[23:17] <ishbale> srry typo
[23:17] <ishbale> i did
[23:17] <maybeway36> ok
[23:17] <maybeway36> try the 2nd one
[23:17] <ishbale> no luck
[23:18] <maybeway36> you could try rebooting in recovery mode I suppsoe
[23:18] <ishbale> blarg!!!
[23:19] <ishbale> i actually just want to run crossover office pro but it is a .sh file how do i start it
[23:20] <maybeway36> change to the directory it's in
[23:20] <maybeway36> then try ./whatever.sh
[23:20] <ishbale> to
[23:20] <ishbale> to
[23:20] <rickest> or 'sh whatever.sh'
[23:20] <ishbale> where
[23:21] <smarty> i cant drag my windows anymroe :)
[23:21] <smarty> :(
[23:23] <ishbale> it said it cant open
[23:23] <ishbale> ?
[23:23] <jimmy51_home> kubuntu.org down?
[23:23] <vistakiller> yes i see this
[23:23] <vistakiller> they have change the site?
[23:23] <jimmy51_home> i dunno
[23:24] <jimmy51_home> how embarrasing... i've been talking up kubuntu for it's stability and ease of use to my buddy for weeks
[23:24] <vistakiller> they change now
[23:24] <jimmy51_home> finally got him to check out the site
[23:24] <jimmy51_home> it's down :)
[23:24] <vistakiller> see it
[23:24] <jimmy51_home> figures
[23:24] <smarty> haha
[23:24] <vistakiller> see now
[23:28] <Cheezwhiz> How do I kill a process in wine?
[23:37] <dr_Willis> kill the wine pid.
[23:37] <Cheezwhiz> how would I go about doing that?
[23:37] <dr_Willis> You dont reall y kill a process in wine.. You kill the wine process. :)
[23:37] <dr_Willis> ps ax | grep wine
[23:38] <dr_Willis> and see what processes are running
[23:39] <Cheezwhiz> Hmm....listed one of them, but the other two aren't listed
[23:52] <rickest> clear
[23:54] <p2p> hello
[23:54] <p2p> what happends with intrepid xorg-server and ati propietary drivers?
[23:54] <p2p> it says an error that can't load dri2 module
[23:55] <sgallinger> !radeon
[23:58] <p2p> there is no channel for ubuntu intrepid?