[01:32] <pmatulis> .
[08:12] <guillaume_alloxr> hi everyone
[08:21] <guillaume_alloxr> i'm about to install ubuntu server on a power5 ibm i 515, i started this 2 weeks ago but couldn't continue as we cound't create a partition. The function had to be ordered, PowerVM and we received it now. I'll come back to you guys if i need some help when i'll be in the install process. Thanks
[11:02] <jak2000> hi all
[11:02] <jak2000> why cant do an update on my server: http://pastie.org/10467885   thanks
[11:02] <jak2000> any advice?
[11:03] <lordievader> jak2000: I get "Sorry, there is no pastie #10467885 or it has been removed. Why not create a new pastie?"
[11:04] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10467890
[11:04] <jak2000> lordievader now?
[11:14] <jak2000> http://pastebin.com/wUMeNSAw
[11:22] <lordievader> jak2000: Did you read the error message?
[11:26] <jak2000> done, helping me OerHeks
[12:21] <rbasak> cpaelzer: please could you review my comment in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781257 for me? If you agree, then could you take bug 1245604 (the corresponding Ubuntu bug), send a patch to Debian and we can fix it in Ubuntu as well please?
[12:21] <rbasak> No rush.
[12:23] <Ben64> should probably be asking in a debian channel
[12:23] <rbasak> I'm asking wearing my Ubuntu hat and with cpaelzer wearing his Ubuntu hat while working for the Ubuntu server team ;)
[12:42] <cpaelzer> rbasak: yeah I could look into that next
[12:42] <rbasak> OK, thanks!
[12:43] <cpaelzer> rbasak: but I want to properly finish the former issue, have some work where I assist ryan and a performance anaylsis - so no guarantees at the speed of looking into that
[12:43] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I'll assign to me to be notified and add it to my todo list - any known external time dependencies?
[12:43] <rbasak> cpaelzer: yeah that's fine. The bug is two years old so a couple of weeks won't matter.
[12:44] <rbasak> cpaelzer: no real time dependencies. It would be nice to do it before final freeze next Thursday but it's probably the lowest priority if something else needs doing.
[12:44] <cpaelzer> rbasak: then we have to hope jet lag doesn't let me sleep at the sprint next week :-)
[12:48]  * freezevee is trying to sleep
[14:06] <samba35> how do i check all services started @sysetem boot
[14:06] <ianorlin> samba35: which ubuntu version
[14:06] <samba35> 14.04.3
[14:07] <samba35> does it change version to version ?
[14:07] <ianorlin> well 15.04 and later will different because systemd is new init system
[14:07] <samba35> or is it systemd or upstram
[14:08] <samba35> ok
[14:08] <ianorlin> >=15.04 systemd and earlier was upstart
[14:09] <samba35> can i use numa (kvm/libvirt) with single socket cpu ? or do i require two sockets ?
[14:25] <RoyK> samba35: there's no need for numa on a single socket, but it'll probably work
[14:25] <samba35> ok
[14:30] <koheleth> any chance of less kernel updates and reboots required please?
[14:30] <koheleth> seem to be booting once a week
[14:35] <teward> anyone know why I'm getting this, and no IPv6 address, when trying to force a DHCP6 update with dhclient?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12715333/
[14:37] <jrwren> teward: sounds like some shell script thinks /bin/sh is bash.
[14:37] <teward> jrwren: so you mean the default-installed scripts
[14:37] <teward> so that should be a bug?
[14:37] <jrwren> teward: I'd guess so, but i don't have a shopt on line 55 of my /sbin/dhclient-script on vivid.
[14:38] <jelly> koheleth: you can read the changelogs and decide if the changes are relevant for your systems and workload.  A fix in SCTP is not relevant if you don't use SCTP anywhere and it's not insmoded at all
[14:38] <teward> jrwren: nor do I.
[14:38] <teward> and that's Vivid
[14:39] <teward> jrwren: hence my hunting
[14:39] <teward> lemme finish the apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; reboot
[14:39] <jrwren> teward: to be honest, I didn't know dhclient-script supported ipv6. I run -sf /dev/null and manually call a few scripts to set things up.
[14:39] <teward> see if anything got fixed
[14:39] <jrwren> teward: let me know. I'm very ipv6 curious
[14:39] <teward> jrwren: 'dhclient -6' exists
[14:39] <teward> jrwren: and it works on 14.04
[14:40] <jrwren> teward: right. i use that.  and I specify -sf
[14:40] <jrwren> teward: I'm also using prefix delegation, which I don't think dhclient-script supports.
[14:41] <teward> I don't have prefix delegation, straight DHCP6 server in a private range.
[14:41] <teward> which appears to work xD
[14:41] <teward> (pfSense handles the outbound NATing)
[14:41] <jrwren> cool, good to know.
[14:41] <teward> but even that doesn't work
[14:41] <jrwren> i don't run dhcp6, i just let radvd do its thing
[14:42] <teward> :P
[14:42] <teward> jrwren: i don't run it on this system, an din fact auto v6 via /etc/network/interfaces (dhcp) also doesn't work on this system
[14:42] <teward> but it works *fine* on 14.04
[14:44] <jamespage> coreycb, neutron-vpnaas needs a sponsor?
[14:44] <coreycb> jamespage, yes it does
[14:44] <jamespage> coreycb, done
[14:45] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks.  I have a todo  I haven't gotten to to try and get access to upload those universe packages.
[14:45] <jamespage> coreycb, I wonder whether we can create a openstack-universe seed for them and add that seed to the server ppu upload rights
[14:46] <jrwren> teward: hrm. I think autoconfig works at kernel level or something. afaik, an up interface which recieves an advertisement, configures itself by default.
[14:46] <teward> jrwren: indeed, and it's supposed to, but it doesn't
[14:47] <teward> hence trying to force a dhcp update
[14:47] <teward> which of course doesn't happen with the error
[14:47] <teward> still filing a bug lol
[14:47] <coreycb> jamespage, I'll mention that when I chat with colin or stephane
[14:47] <teward> because it works on Trusty
[14:47] <jrwren> ah, i see.
[14:48] <jamespage> coreycb, i did swift and a few syncs from debian
[14:48] <jamespage> coreycb, adding murano* to the cloud-archive as well
[14:48] <coreycb> jamespage, awesome, thanks
[14:51] <teward> jrwren: apparently it's already filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1450116 and the parent https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1448690
[14:52] <teward> jrwren: who manages those
[14:52] <jrwren> teward: i've no idea
[14:53] <teward> meh
[15:20] <guillaume_alloxr> hi
[15:21] <guillaume_alloxr> is there anybody for a little help ? i'm trying to install ubuntu server on a Power5 i series machine
[15:21] <guillaume_alloxr> I need to specifiy in the storage allocation settings where the "ipl" is i guess that's the .iso but then it asks for an ipl parameter, which is VNC=1 for redhat for example, what should it be for ubuntu server 14.04 ?
[15:38] <hallyn> dannf: so for the arm qemu patchset, our package doesn't even have the patch "target-arm: Add the GICv2m to the virt board" yet (no v2 at all).  Do we need that, i.e. should i cherrypick those patches or patch around them?
[15:38] <hallyn> i dont' care either way, just not sure if you need the v2m
[15:39] <dannf> hallyn: 2.4 base?
[15:40] <hallyn> oh, heh, no.  i guess i should merge that first.
[15:40] <hallyn> forgot that was what you were wanting.  nm :)
[15:40] <dannf> np. you might hold off - i did an x86 build and it failed. i think due to lack of disk space, but double checking now
[15:40] <dannf> hallyn: should know within the hour
[15:41] <hallyn> ok, thanks for hte heads up - will wait
[15:41] <dannf> hallyn: but certainly, if you want to backport those to 2.3, that'd be awesome :)
[15:50] <RoyK> hallyn: not all arm CPUs have hwvirt
[15:51] <hallyn> RoyK: of course :)  but those that do would like qemu to use it
[15:52] <hallyn> anyway i was porting onto the wrong tree so nothing to see here :)
[15:53] <RoyK> hallyn: you probably drank too much dihydrogen monoxide
[15:55] <hallyn> or not enough
[15:56] <hallyn> (dinner was salty)
[16:07] <dannf> hallyn: built fine this time
[16:15] <hallyn> k
[17:26] <thebwt> Where can I read up about ubuntu major versions of packages? Like right now in 14.04, the mysql-server metapackage points to mysql-server-5.5. But mysql 5.6 is also in the repos. Is this just the pull from debian sid at the time?
[17:26] <thebwt> in wily, only 5.6 is there (but also percona, and mariadb). Will future versions get added later or are those it?
[18:14] <sarnold> thebwt: it is very very rare for entirely new packages to be added to a release after it's been released. I can't recall it happening, but I may have missed one..
[18:14] <sarnold> thebwt: openjdk-8 seems like the most logical candidate, and that hasn't happened, anyway
[18:18] <thebwt> Roger that
[18:18] <thebwt> Thank you sarnold
[18:21] <thebwt> then the other part of my question, we package mysql 5.5 and 5.6 in 14.04.  Yet only php 5.5, no php5.6 . How are those decisions made?
[18:25] <sarnold> thebwt: I think that's due to debian's decision to have separate mysql packages for each upstream version but only one php5 package for all upstream versions of php
[18:26] <thebwt> Got it, that's what I figured.


[00:58] <FluteyVal> mew
[02:02] <_3by8> Hey, just wondering if you guys had any clue how difficult it is to actually download Ubuntu GNOME.
[02:05] <darkxst> _3by8, its easy http://ubuntugnome.org/download/
[02:07] <_3by8> Pretty sure I'm having doubts about reality and whether this is in fact it because I can't believe a normal person would say that finding a stupid ISO is "easy".
[02:08] <darkxst> _3by8 its clearly documented on our website, surely normal people read those!
[02:09] <_3by8> darkxst: you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
[02:09] <_3by8> It takes you to at least 2 other pages before you can download it.
[02:10] <_3by8> darkxst: I've got a challenge for you: try to figure out how to download a different flavor of Ubuntu from the Ubuntu website.
[02:11] <_3by8> And why would you put the link to download it in plain text at the very bottom of the post? Put some effort into it.
[02:12] <darkxst> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Non-LTS
[02:12] <darkxst> what are you talking about plain text links?
[02:13] <darkxst> if you see issues then you should raise them on the mailing list btw
[02:13] <_3by8> I'm telling you, the design "team" made some very poor choices and by "team" I mean that one contributor who does a little bit of everything. C++, Java...WORDPRESS.
[02:14] <darkxst> btw I am not involved with the documentation team
[02:14] <_3by8> Who are you involved with?
[02:14] <darkxst> development
[02:14] <_3by8> CIA/FBI?
[02:14] <_3by8> Figures.
[02:15] <_3by8> Dark figures.
[02:15] <_3by8> Heh...
[02:16] <_3by8> Don't even make me start some Onyx the Fortuitousesque rant.
[02:16] <_3by8> I don't know.
[02:16] <_3by8> Maybe you guys should just like... actually try sometimes... I don't know.
[02:17] <_3by8> So you develop software in your free time? Do you do it for a living also?
[02:18] <darkxst> all contributors to Ubuntu GNOME are volunteers, that do it in their free time
[02:18] <darkxst> and 'ranting' won't get you anywhere
[02:35] <_3by8> Boring and the website sucks.
[02:35] <_3by8> Fix it.
[04:32] <Jamie_1> hey i was trying to purge java from my computer since somehow the install didnt go right, so i followed what a friend said would work (big mistake) and now i cant get any of the jdk working at all... i have added manually, and from installer.. i have 6 all the way up to 9 and none of them are working, anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:32] <Jamie_1> most of my developer tools wont work without it
[05:34] <salay> does ubuntu gnome include the amazon lens software?
[05:35] <darkxst> no
[05:46] <salay> that's great news. thanks for the quick reply.
[06:37] <octoquad> morning all
[06:37] <octoquad> darkxst, not sure if you missed it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1497563/+attachment/4468673/+files/PlymouthDebug.txt
[07:02] <darkxst> octoquad, was that with the graphical splash?
[07:04] <darkxst> guess it is
[07:09] <darkxst> as suspected the events keep firing after the animation is pull down (well it seems that way, some functions are missing ply_trace messages ;(
[07:11] <darkxst> octoquad, can you attach that log to the main bug
[08:23] <mgedmin> and this is what my wifi icon looks like this morning: http://i.imgur.com/SmP8lIS.png
[09:59] <darkxst> mgedmin, nothing should have changed overnight!
[10:10] <mgedmin> I'm on vivid anyway; I think it's a long standing but infrequent buglet
[10:27] <darkxst> ricotz, guess you saw my email? spidermonkey switched to ld.gold, and that is busted until gcc-5.3 lands most likely
[11:08] <ricotz> darkxst, thanks, I am hoping doko wll upload a new snapshot soon then
[11:09] <darkxst> ricotz, just force bfd in the mean time
[11:10] <ricotz> darkxst, the problem doesnt hit critical things for me so far
[11:11] <darkxst> ricotz, webkitgtk also
[11:12] <ricotz> mozjs38 is not needed by anything yet
[11:12] <ricotz> and webkitgtk needs cairo-gl for a ppa upload
[11:13] <darkxst> nope and I won't have gjs port done anytime soon by the looks of it
[13:28] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, FYI I've noticed that the Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE and Ubuntu GNOME iso images are all 400MB larger than compared to 15.10 Beta 1.
[13:29] <flexiondotorg> Latex and a heap of additional fonts is the common new packages.
[13:29] <flexiondotorg> I'm just investigating what the root cause is.
[14:14] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, fuck
[14:16] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, did you check the germinate outputs?
[14:17] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Yes
[14:17] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghostscript/9.16~dfsg~0-0ubuntu3
[14:17] <flexiondotorg> texlive-base is being pulled in.
[14:18] <darkxst> no, look here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-gnome.wily/
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, Yes, I've look there :-)
[14:18] <darkxst> whats pulling it in then?
[14:19] <flexiondotorg> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-gnome.wily/extra
[14:19] <flexiondotorg> ghostscript was pulling in cjk stuff.
[14:19] <lindol> hi all :)
[14:19] <flexiondotorg> New ghostscript fixes the issue.
[14:20] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, so its sorted then?
[14:21] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, I've requested a rebuild to check.
[14:21] <flexiondotorg> Will report back later.
[14:24] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, ok, keep me posted, I am way overdue for sleep
[14:28] <flexiondotorg> Will do.
[14:31] <darkxst> flexiondotorg, looks like Canonical are sending me to the -desktop team  sprint btw ;)
[14:31] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, :-D Excellent!
[14:31] <darkxst> hi Inoki
[15:03] <flexiondotorg> darkxst, After an ISO respin Ubuntu MATE is the correct size again.
[15:17] <Inoki> Hi there darkxst
[15:18] <Inoki> Was away, left the computer running
[15:34] <Inoki> This https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1443456 is a nasty one.
[15:35] <Inoki> Completely prevents me from using Vivid on my laptop.
[15:40] <Inoki> Have a Q I hope someone can asnwer: I occasionally get disconnected from my Google account showing me a propmt to log in. The first attempt always fails, the second works. Could this be somehow connected to me uninstalling Empathy?
[16:18] <arthur-dent> What is the command to reset one's password?
[16:27] <arthur-dent> Hello?
[16:27] <arthur-dent> I think I have logged in now...
[21:29] <hans__> i want to file a bug, what is the right place?


[09:29] <mgz> morning all
[10:24] <vila> mgz: oh, I missed that, hey !
[10:25] <mgz> hey vila!
[10:26] <mgz> hm, I need to fix my builddeb test a little, looking at it again this morning
[10:27] <vila> jelmer: no need for a DictStore, we already have everything we need ;) Running a full test suite before pushing my changes to lp:~bzr/bzr/commit-uses-config-stacks but there are still issues to be addressed (more in my review comment) :-/
[10:30] <vila> jelmer: done
[10:30] <vila> jelmer: all these minors bugs are the most painful part of the option migration :-/
[10:31] <mgz> the bugs were introduced by children?
[10:31] <vila> jelmer: ha crap, I didn't notice you pushed additional revisions :-/
[10:31] <vila> ?
[10:32]  * mgz is just teasing about a misplaced 's' :)
[10:32] <vila> ha ha
[10:32] <vila> :)
[10:35] <vila> mgz: by the way, is http://paste.ubuntu.com/769900/ clearer ?
[10:35] <vila> mgz: i.e. the added comma
[10:39] <jelmer> :)
[10:46] <mgz> ...I still can't parse that I'm afraid
[10:46] <mgz> you need to just flip the clauses
[10:47] <mgz> "The ``SectionMatcher`` objects are for defining which." for eg.
[10:54] <vila> mgz: thanks, fixed
[11:18] <mgz> okay, nearly caught up with life.
[11:18] <mgz> just need to write news and land things...
[11:28] <vila> mgz: yeah for news ! :) If you had a look at what's new for 2.5 too that would also be truly great :-p
[11:39] <vila> mgz: found that bug back: #659763
[11:39] <vila> bug #659763 you helpful bot
[11:46] <sidnei> hi there! how does one change an existing branch hosted in launchpad to set append_revisions_only?
[11:47] <sidnei> is it enough to change .bzr/branch/branch.conf and push?
[11:47] <mgz> vila: hey, another path for doing a similar thing, what fun
[11:48] <mgz> sidnei: with recent enough bzr versions you can do `bzr config append_revisions_only=True -d lp:...`
[11:49] <sidnei> thanks mgz!
[11:53] <mgz> I wonder whether this diff/merge is bad because the file contains conflict markers for test examples...
[11:56] <jelmer> vila, mgz: Could I persuade either of you to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/hpss-no-vfs/+merge/85153 ? It's one of the prerequisites for hpss-get-inventories
[11:57] <vila> on it
[12:10] <vila> jelmer: done
[12:11] <jelmer> vila: merci bien :)
[12:11] <vila> hehe
[12:11] <vila> lunch time for me
[12:21] <mgz> bzr info is too slow.
[12:24] <jelmer> mgz: -v you mean?
[12:25] <mgz> just plain, it takes as long as st on hot cache and shouldn't need to do as much work
[12:25] <mgz> -v is just silly.
[12:25] <mgz> takes 6 seconds herre.
[12:26] <mgz> 400ms was what I was talking about with "too slow"
[12:26] <mgz> it's long enough that there's a noticable pause
[12:28] <jelmer> it looks at the full branch history to see what the revid of the first revision is, so it can figure out its date
[12:29] <mgz> yup, at least the other output comes out before it goes off and does that.
[12:51] <jelmer> hmm, is there a particular reason we always open a branch for a working tree?
[12:51] <jelmer> it seems like some operations should be able to get away with not opening the branch (especially if it is remote)
[12:56] <mgz> probably similar to reasons we reopen repos and branches way too much
[13:00]  * jelmer lunches too
[13:21] <jelmer> vila: have you decided what you want to do with lp:~jelmer/bzr-upload/fix-2.4-compat yet?
[13:22] <jelmer> It's fine with me if you reject it, but it would be nice to see it disappear of my activereviews queue :)
[13:35]  * jelmer stumbles onto mumble
[13:37] <mgz> ha, well spotted on bug 317778 jelmer
[13:39]  * jelmer was browsing switch bugs anyway... :)
[13:40] <jelmer> *crickets*
[13:41] <mgz> I think I borked by audio setup someone
[13:41] <mgz> oh, nope, just being an idiot
[13:52] <vila> jelmer: what I don't get is why you uploaded a new version when none has been released >-/
[13:54] <jelmer> vila: I had to earlier, because bzr-upload was broken with bzr 2.5
[13:55] <vila> that's fine, 2.5 is still beta, but then, why trying to ensure compat with 2.4 ?
[13:56] <jelmer> vila: I'd rather not maintain two copies of bzr-upload in debian
[13:57] <vila> meh, the point of splitting into series is to have *less* maintenance to do indeed, can't they be used in debian ?
[13:58] <jelmer> vila: it means I have to do twice as many uploads to debian
[13:59] <jelmer> vila: anyway, the current situation is fine for me, let's just reject the MP
[14:00] <vila> ok, but be aware that I intend to track 2.5 far more than 2.4 so the series will diverge
[14:00] <jelmer> sure
[14:00] <jelmer> 2.4 will stop being relevant in Debian too at some point
[14:01] <vila> right
[14:03] <vila> jelmer: by the way, did you start to CC me when replying to reviews ? I got duplicate mails in the last days...
[14:04] <jelmer> vila: https://code.launchpad.net/~jelmer/bzr/hpss-_get-checkout-format/+merge/85652
[14:04] <vila> ha no, not this thime
[14:04] <jelmer> s/vila/mgz/
[14:04] <jelmer> vila: sometimes I have to resend email if I forget to use GPG/MIME
[14:05] <vila> jelmer: sry, misread your re-submission, I *got* 3 copies last time you CC'ed me,
[14:05] <jelmer> vila: as launchpad seems to refuse GPG signatures from thunderbird that don't use GPG/MIME
[14:05] <vila> the (small but annoying) issue is that some of them are filtered in the wrong mailbox
[14:10] <mgz> lunch lunch
[14:11] <vila> meh, can't '+reply' on comments from previous versions of a proposal o_O
[14:12] <vila> jelmer: you really think BZR_EMAIL is used for cases where it is *also* defined in bazaar.conf and/or branch.conf ?
[14:12] <jelmer> vila: yes
[14:12]  * vila shudders
[14:13] <jelmer> launchpad uses it in its test suite for example, but I also imagine things like cron scripts rely on it
[14:14] <jelmer> -Oemail=.. seems like a reasonable alternative, but IFF we want to change the behaviour I think we should deprecate BZR_EMAIL first and start warning existing users
[14:15] <vila> yeah, but -Oemail may not work for crontab or scripts since it needs to be passed to bzr itself
[14:17] <jelmer> vila: right
[14:18] <vila> email_from_store may do the trick (ugly but doesn't require another confusing parameter to Option), let's try
[14:30] <jelmer> vila: are you looking into implementing that or should I?
[14:30] <vila> jelmer: ok, that fixes the issue with BZR_EMAIL, now looking into post_commit deprecation warnings
[14:32] <jelmer> vila: I already added one to the definition of post_commit in BranchConfig
[14:32] <vila> yeah, but the test suite is complaining now :)
[14:33] <jelmer> vila: ah, ok
[14:33] <jelmer> vila: if you need me to do a review, you know where to find me >-)(
[14:34] <vila> hehe
[14:34] <vila><EMAIL_ADDRESS>./bzr config<EMAIL_ADDRESS>email
[14:34] <vila> gives the expected result :)
[14:34] <jelmer> \o/
[14:34] <vila> well, for some compat-nutty value of expected
[14:37]  * jelmer is compat-nutty and proud of it :P
[14:41] <vila> jelmer: hehe, about compat, tried the loom test suite recently ?
[14:41]  * vila dodges
[14:49] <vila> jelmer: oh, forgot to reply: yes, post_commit predates our hook system (by far)
[14:50] <vila> jelmer: dunno if it's casher but I approved your part of the common branch ;)
[14:55] <mgz> lambed up.
[14:56] <mgz> vila: on the config branch, BZR_EDITOR has a similar issue
[14:56] <vila> of overriding any option setting ?
[14:57] <mgz> order is currently BZR_EDITOR, get('editor'), EDITOR, VISUAL... other fallbacks
[14:57] <vila> same era probably
[14:59] <jelmer> vila: makes sense to deprecate it then, IMO
[15:00] <vila> jelmer: BZR_EDITOR ? BZR_EMAIL ? both ?
[15:00] <vila> I would rather deprecate all of them in one go if only for users to handle them all at once
[15:01] <vila> no ?
[15:02] <jelmer> vila: post_commit
[15:02] <jelmer> vila: I think we should keep BZR_EMAIL and BZR_EDITOR
[15:03] <vila> jelmer: ha, but, yes, we agree that post_commit should be deprecated, you did it (I just fixed the test fallouts)
[15:03] <vila> ha, sorry, mixed conversations, you were replying to my late reply here,
[15:04] <vila> so, yes, post_commit is old, has been replaced by a better mechanism, never formally deprecated
[15:04] <vila> the later is now done
[15:04] <jelmer> great
[15:05] <vila> officiously deprecated since 0.15 if you look at the comment I left
[15:05] <vila> s/left/updated/
[15:11] <jelmer> vila: thanks!
[15:11] <jelmer> I'll approve your work then, and land :)
[15:11] <vila> hehe
[15:12]  * jelmer adds vila to the NEWS entry as well
[16:20] <vila> jelmer: brain dumped my thoughts on your feature-flags proposal, about to leave for an appointment, should be back later
[16:23] <vila> jelmer: oh, thanks for your review on config-explained, just one question:
[16:24] <vila> I addd 'for modifcation' because I thought the parameters was a bit lost and obscure, would 'Where modifcations go' be clearer ?
[16:24] <vila> or may be you know already too much about stacks to need these comments ;)
[16:26] <vila> hmm, yeah, I added the comment first and the docstring later, now that I re-read the two, the comment is redundant
[16:26] <mgz> vila: before you notice independently, yes, I added release notes in the wrong section ;_;
[16:27] <vila> hehe ! Progress !
[16:45] <jelmer> vila: thanks!
[17:32] <mgz> ...and the reaper kills mumble
[17:33] <jelmer> hmm
[17:33] <jelmer> dark-cloaked bastard.
[17:39] <vila> hmm, what a language, missing context I assume I wasn't the target ;)
[17:40] <jelmer> vila: unless you're the person going around killing random processes on mgz's laptop when it runs OOM, no. :-)
[17:40] <vila> oops, busted :)
[20:37] <lamalex> is it possible to fetch just a directory of a bzr branch?
[20:37] <lamalex> so say I want just the debian dir of lp:~ubuntu-desktop/libindicator/ubuntu
[21:30] <maxb> lamalex: No, the data structures / protocols used just don't work that way
[23:32] <Noldorin> hey poolie
[23:53] <poolie> hi Noldorin, all


[05:02] <pitti> Good morning
[10:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:26] <jibel> pitti, I commented your comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/britney/fix_missing_results/+merge/218467
[10:34] <pitti> jibel: merci
[10:35] <pitti> jibel: btw, I mailed utlemming about the out-of-date utopic images
[10:35] <pitti> jibel: until these are fixed, we should run the utopic-setup-testbed job manually every day
[10:35] <pitti> jibel: on Saturday the initial dist-upgrade took like 20 minutes (new kernel, lots of other base system updates)
[10:36] <jibel> pitti, I'll change the trigger to be cron-based instead of triggering jobs manually
[10:37] <pitti> jibel: or that, thanks
[10:39] <jibel> pitti, set to every day at 4:41 UTC
[10:46] <pitti> jibel: thanks, that's well before the DKMS flood
[10:56] <jibel> pitti, thanks for the review
[13:48] <pitti> jibel: ah, what was wrong with linux/i386 this time?
[13:51] <jibel> pitti, this test won't pass on albali, it always times out after 12h
[14:04] <pitti> jibel: ah, I think we don't actually use $VCPU
[14:04] <pitti> that would presumably help a lot for linux
[14:05] <pitti> jibel: I'll add that to autopkgtest and a-p-t
[14:05] <jibel> pitti, that's probably it, I couldn't figure what changed apart the kernel itself
[14:20] <pitti> jibel: both done and rolled out; I think I'll kill the running linux and re-start it?
[14:21] <jibel> pitti, yes please
[14:21] <jibel> pitti, how many vcpus did you set?
[14:22] <pitti> jibel: I didn't change ./etc/adt.d/linux, it uses 4
[14:22] <pitti> jibel: want to bump to 6?
[14:22] <jibel> ok
[14:22] <pitti> but that wasn't honored up to now
[14:22] <jibel> that's fine, lets start with 4
[14:22] <pitti> ack
[14:23] <pitti> jibel: hm, do you have an idea what http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/utopic-adt-linux/ARCH=i386,label=adt/32/console is?
[14:24] <pitti> jibel: albali has a load of 13, i. e. just I/O contentino?
[14:24] <pitti> ah, apport is collecting the qemu crash
[14:24] <jibel> pitti, maybe, I've never seen that before
[14:24] <pitti> I've seen it two or 3 times, qemu crash
[14:26] <pitti> jibel: ok, both running now
[16:46] <om26er> robotfuel, yo mind joining #ubuntu-app-devel please
[16:46] <robotfuel> om26er: omw
[18:22] <elopio> balloons or alesage: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/reminders-app/autopilot-add_notebook/+merge/219237 ?
[18:25] <alesage> elopio will have a look
[21:47] <elopio> balloons: I have another online accounts problem.
[21:47] <balloons> elopio, oh?
[21:47] <elopio> maybe you have any idea of what's going on.
[21:47] <elopio> we patch the home, and then we add an evernote account to that home. That works fine.
[21:48] <elopio> but if we are running another test, we patch the home with a different tmp directory and try to add an evernote account to that new home.
[21:48] <elopio> the problem is that the account is added to the temp dir of the other test.
[21:48] <elopio> should I kill something between tests so online accounts gets the new HOME ?
[21:51] <balloons> hmm.. sounds like something is a little off
[21:51] <balloons> but I think I understand
[21:53] <balloons> elopio, ohh.. are you using the self.home_dir?
[22:00] <elopio> balloons: yes, I added that so I could patch the home before setup.
[22:05] <balloons> is it being updated properly?
[22:27] <elopio> balloons: yes, os.environ shows the right dir.
[22:27] <elopio> but HOME=/tmp/dir account-console list
[22:27] <elopio> HOME=/tmp/previousdir accounts-console list
[22:28] <elopio> shows the one I expected to be created on the new test.
[22:28] <elopio> somewhere it's keeping the old dir