[00:00] <wilee-nilee> dingle, boot a live cd/usb and see if it works.
[00:01] <dingle> wilee-nilee: it works, i also have a dual system, when i boot from windows the sound card works
[00:01] <nico_> lkfdklf
[00:02] <bjrohan> I need help with displays. I am usin Kubuntu, but I am not able to get a resolution in there . .  yet.
[00:03] <clayton_> k1l: it's a geforce gtx 460. kernel-headers: I'm not sure. This is basically one of the first things I did after installing it. How can I check? log: anything I should look for in particular?
[00:03] <Dr_Willis_> dingle:  does it work from a UBUNTU live cd?
[00:04] <dingle> Dr_Willis_: yes
[00:04] <bjrohan> On my laptop all was working fine until I updated to 13.10. All was fine until I connected my HDMI to my TV. When disconnecting it, my laptop screen now goes blank, even after a rboot and logging into my degault account. logging into the guest account it all works fine
[00:04] <Dr_Willis_> 'yes it does work from a ubuntu live cd' or 'no it does not work from a ubuntu live cd'   :)  the fact it works in windows. shows you at least got the speakers hooked up. ;)
[00:04] <k1l> clayton_: i got to leave now. but you can pastebin the apt log and the syslog from /var/log so supporters can have a look. good luck
[00:04] <Dr_Willis_> The fact it does work from a live cd is a good sign at least.
[00:04] <dingle> Dr_Willis_: yes it works from a ubuntu live cd
[00:04] <clayton_> k1l: sure thing. thanks.
[00:04] <Dr_Willis_> dingle:  done a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' on the installed system yet?
[00:05] <dingle> Dr_Willis_: yes, the sound card was working until few days ago
[00:05] <Dr_Willis_> so it was working on a new install, then some updates or somnthing a day or 3 ago caused sound to stop working..
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> dingle, Good, how fresh is this install, and how much twerking, lol, have you done?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> any 3rd party repos...etc?
[00:07] <nico_> cvxc
[00:07] <dingle> wilee-nilee: i think the system is up to date, and A LOT
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> dingle, a lot of 3rd parties, say ppa's?
[00:08] <dingle> wilee-nilee: no
[00:08] <bjrohan> Dr_Willis_: You are an expert :-) Do you know where I may go to find the config file for display settings, multiple displays, and the HDMI out?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> dingle, what does a lot mean in this context?
[00:09] <dingle> wilee-nilee: ive removing and adding drivers for four days, following every tip i could find online on how to solve this
[00:10] <dingle> wilee-nilee: does this help http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=323f6e5b02fd2da8ff9478b71a28be87484c925e ?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> dingle, Ah, following tips on line, that can be a bane of bricking if you do not keep a record, and know how to reverse these changes or at least have a backup/clone of the working setup. I would just start over if it were me, and be more careful, trying to fix what you do not know is broke is a frustration that will give you more trouble than it's worth.
[00:13] <dingle> wilee-nilee: i agree but i've been trying to avoid starting over because i don't have the time to set everything back the way i want
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> dingle, All I can say is if you do it enough and know some tricks like saving app install listas repos and keys, and configs...ect that goes really fast, I cvan install and have the same setup in less time than you have been on this channel today.
[00:15] <Dr_Willis_> bjrohan:  for my nvidia systems - its in xorg.conf. each user also has their own config in their home
[00:16] <Patero-ng> is ubuntu growing in popularity in 2012 there use to be 1300-1500 people here now is always at 1700
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> dingle, and besides that I have clones of the setups already that takes about 5-10 min to reload.
[00:17] <bjrohan> Dr_Willis_: I have a built in Intel graphics card, the GUI is not working very well. is the xorg.conf in the user home as well as a generic place?
[00:18] <jorge> Hola
[00:19] <danfo> Patero-ng: it is 2013?
[00:19] <XLV> Patero-ng either that or there are more issues for support :P
[00:20] <jorge> alguien habla español??
[00:20] <Patero-ng> XLV: that's truth
[00:20] <Patero-ng> jorge: hola jorgito
[00:20] <jorge> hola a todos
[00:21] <Patero-ng> jorge: este canal es en ingles solamente en espaniol es ubuntu-es
[00:21] <jorge> como hago para llegar ahi
[00:21] <Patero-ng> tipea /join #ubuntu-es
[00:22] <jorge> gracias patero
[00:22] <cvtsx> herro
[00:23] <cvtsx> como estas
[00:23] <Patero-ng> cvtsx: yo?
[00:24] <Dr_Willis_> bjrohan:  xorg.conf is options. there is some monitors/display setting file in the users home that they save to when they use the monitors/display settings tool
[00:24] <Dr_Willis_> bjrohan:  intel drivers are built in, so are rarely needed to be messed with
[00:25] <bjrohan> Hmm, yeah. I didn't have this problem until the 13.10 uprade, perhaps go back to an older kernel and see?
[00:25] <Patero-ng> danfo: 2013 and soon 2014
[00:25] <danfo> :D
[00:26] <Dr_Willis_> ive seen 3000+ people in here on release day. ;) but i tend to avoid the channel for the first few days after release
[00:26] <bjrohan> Dr_Willis_: Looks like when I plugged in the HDMI it triggered some setting in my regular account, b/c logging into a guest account everything is fine (I have not plugged the guest account into my TV to see what happens)
[00:26] <Patero-ng> Dr_Willis_: oh wow I would love to be here that day
[00:26] <Patero-ng> I wish I was here for 10.04
[00:26] <fossterer> hi! I deleted  my only primary partition... How can I reclaim a part of it to another Extended partition?
[00:28] <XLV> fossterer if you havent written over it, you can recover it whole
[00:28] <odium> how can I keep firefox's flash stay in fullscreen mode on my other monitor?
[00:29] <fossterer> XLV: I'm asking if it is possible to shrink it and use the leftover space into an existing extended partition
[00:30] <odium> :(
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> fossterer, Can you take a screenshot of gparted looking at it and imagebin it?
[00:32] <XLV> fossterer yes, you can..use gparted
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> bjrohan: there may be some .file in the users home that has some monitor settings saved.    for my nvidia system its .nvidia-settings-rc i dont have an intel system here to look at
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> odium:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog site had tweaks for that exact issue.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | fossterer
[00:33] <XLV> fossterer if its root partition.. the easy way is to download a live cd like clonezilla
[00:34] <XLV> fossterer another option is systemrescuecd, i have used that one, uses gui
[00:35] <Swabby> I'm wanting to network install linux on a old dell that has no cdrom and no usb boot capability.. is there an easy way to do this?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis_> Patero-ng:  i ment on  the day of almost every relase (every 6 mo) ive seen 3000 people here. havent paid much attention to it the last few reelases.
[00:35] <Swabby> i have a dual boot win 7 / ubuntu machine.
[00:35] <Dr_Willis_> Swabby:  might be easier to pull the hd.  - use a usb enclosuer. install to it.. put it back
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Swabby, are you sure it can even run ubuntu?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis_> are you sure it can even do a net boot. ;)
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> yeah goota be a no pae's here
[00:36] <Swabby> wilee - LOL i'm not sure...it's a latitude C610..google says people have run ubuntu on it with success.
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> gotta*
[00:36] <Dr_Willis_> Swabby:  how old of a release of ubuntu..  newer ubuntu releases need a PAE enabled CPU
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Swabby, There are minimal requirements I would check those, might be an okay server.
[00:37] <Swabby> drwillis - Honestly i need something minimal...i was going to give the machine to my daughter to play some games and use abcmouse.com
[00:37] <fossterer> XLV: wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/274877
[00:37] <fossterer> I am aiming for 4 partitions of 120 GiB each but sda5 and sda6 have important data
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> fossterer, Having the partitions out of numerical order looking at the image from left to right creates problems.
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> in making new partitions in general, I would back up those important ones and start over.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> never delete a partition in general just rebuild it to keep the numerical order, or know that they change when you do.
[00:41] <fossterer> wilee-nilee: Is there something you want me to do about numerical ordering?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> fossterer, I don;t the partitioner does.
[00:41] <fossterer> wilee-nilee: What to do?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> fossterer, I saw a user on here once who found a way to change the numbers, I don't know how myself, but in order for gparted to work in general the partition numbers go up from left to right in looking at it from front to end of the HD. THe saiest would be to copy and paste the info from the ones you want to an external, amke the new partitions and paste and copy back all with gparted.
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> easiest for me anyway, others may have netter ideas.
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> better*
[00:44] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  its a very good idea to backup the data BEFOR you try to resize/repartion... theres always a chance you can lose data on teh hd  if somthing screws up
[00:45] <Dr_Willis_> power failure during a resize = bad
[00:45] <SchrodingersScat> Dr_Willis_: but i don't need the backups until it's too late
[00:45] <Dr_Willis_> SchrodingersScat:  backup the backups!
[00:46] <fossterer> People, that's about 140 GB of data which I am not going to backup coz I have a backup at a different place
[00:46] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  delete it then.
[00:46] <fossterer> can we move onto just the resizing
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> clonezilla would clone them, however the reload has to be the same size partition or bigger is all, and if the nunbers are different adjusted in the save accordingly.
[00:46] <Dr_Willis_> will make resizeing much faster/easier
[00:46] <Dr_Willis_> fire up gparted and go to town if you are not worried about the data
[00:46] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: please... deleting srikes me a joke
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> yeah, don;t follow any logic that would be to safe. ;)
[00:47] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  you just said the data was allready backed up and not  critical
[00:48] <Dr_Willis_> you can have 4 primary partions, one of which can  be an extended.. containing logicals.. looks like you got the logicals as the ones to keep.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Alright Mr. Jones you need a lobotomy, you don;t mind if I use this rusty saw do you.
[00:48] <Dr_Willis_> that means you can have 3 primary partions.
 <sda2> <sda3> <sda4(extended <holding <sda5> <sda6>>
[00:49] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: ok.. I'll let sda5 & 6 stay Extended.. and move the rest to primary.. can I do that?
[00:49] <Dr_Willis_> to get space Out of the extended partion. might take some work. I recall it being doable. but you got to click carefully in gparted.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis_> and you may need to resize sda5 and sda6 first. move them to one end of the extended. then shrink the extended.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis_> THEn resize the primaries
[00:50] <Dr_Willis_> this sound right to anyone else? i tend to use all primaries these days
[00:50] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: yeah.. sda5 doesn't get increased.. what could the reason be?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis_> i recall needing to click VERY carefully in gparted to be sure to select the right partions.  Not done this in years.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis_, there are  no primaries there http://imagebin.org/274877
[00:51] <LuckySMack> hey guys. i was hoping to get some advice. ive used ubuntu server for a while but am setting up a new machine for web app development. i want to see how others have setup their environment for their actual web apps. im not as concerned about the http server as much, as much as I am the management of a staging and production environment.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> oops just sda3 at the end lol
[00:52] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: wilee-nilee: The primary used to be  that unallocated 141G...
[00:52] <LuckySMack> more along the lines of how people manage the apps themselves on their webserver between different environments.
[00:52] <Dr_Willis_> wilee-nilee:  wow - that image reminds me of why i always use all primaries now.
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis_, Yeah, thats a bit messed up easily fixed really.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis_> the goal is to move that 38gb all the way to the front?
[00:53] <Visionaary3289> i installed LAMP on ubuntu and i cant change anything in /www
[00:53] <Visionaary3289> do i lack permissions?
[00:53] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: yep, that's one rquirement
[00:53] <Visionaary3289> how do i fix this
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> I just never delete partitions in the middle of others to keep the numerical flow, or just know if I remove onr between the others above go down one number in an extended
[00:54] <fossterer> wilee-nilee: Is there a way to reassign those numbers?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  from what i see you would have to move sda6. reboot. (to be sure)   move sda5. move sda9, (all to the right),  untill the 38gb is at the start of the extended partion, then shrink the extended
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> I haave 7 partitons right now, 3 primaries the rest in an extended and a swap
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> 1,2,3 5,6,7,8
[00:56] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: Mve sda6.. where to?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  to the right...
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> that puts the unallocated spafce to the left...
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> you might have to grow and shrink. if gparted cant safely move the data
[00:57] <Dr_Willis_> depending on the filesystem and how its setup. gparted cant always do all the move/resize/grow/shrink operations i recall
[00:57] <Dr_Willis_> but these all seem to be ext4 - so it should be able to.
[00:57] <Geo> Hi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> if any are OS"s though I would have suprgrub on hand to get back in.
[00:58] <Dr_Willis_> yep - resize/move/shrinking can change the UUID (at times ive seen it happen)  so i would jot down the uuid of each partion befor starting
[00:58] <Dr_Willis_> this looks like perhaps a 3 day job. ;)
[00:59] <maxb> If you're going to have that many partitions, perhaps you should consider using GPT, thus avoiding all the mess of primary/extended/logical
[00:59] <Dr_Willis_> maxb:  yep ;)
[01:00] <maxb> gdisk can convert an existing MBR-based setup to GPT in place
[01:00] <Dr_Willis_> maxb:  cant say ive seen that done. :) be a neat trick.  sort of a scary trick sounds like.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis_> but it is halloween!
[01:02] <WinstonSmith> hi :) my keyboard does not work with newer kernels (for example latest stable which i did compile myself and got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/). i do however have a keyboard in /proc/bus/input/devices and a keyb device in  /sys/class/input/{event|input} any ideas how i might get closer to the root of the problem?
[01:03] <WinstonSmith> ah and keyb does not work in X and tty
[01:03] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: maxb: This is what I'd do..
[01:03] <fossterer> 1. Boot from Ubuntu Live USB..
[01:03] <fossterer> 2. Delete sda9, 8, 7
[01:03] <fossterer> 3. resize 5 &6 to 120 GiB
[01:03] <fossterer> 4. Finally move the unallocated space to that first Unallocated Space..
[01:03] <FloodBot1> fossterer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <fossterer> Is that feasible?
[01:04] <fossterer> FloodBot1: Sorry!
[01:04] <maxb> fossterer: I don't understand what you mean in point 4.
[01:05] <maxb> Which of these partitions are currently bootable if any? What bootloader is in use? Is that NTFS partition important?
[01:05] <fossterer> maxb: After resizing sda5 & 6 I'd get a space in Extended part.. right?
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  delete te partions in front of and behind 5 and 6, then grow 5 to the left.. and 6 to the right...
[01:05] <Dr_Willis_> that still wont take up the unallocated thats outside the extnede.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis_> if you want to do all extended.. then that will make things easier i guess. ;)
[01:06] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: I am ok with that too
[01:07] <Dr_Willis_> you may want to resize the extended first. so its using the  unallocated space to the left  first.. if you can
[01:07] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: I need only this last thing.. "Can I move unallocated space from Extended to Primary? If so how can I do?"
[01:08] <SuperLag> I've written a script I'm running as root, and I'm running gsettings to customize the Unity Launcher icons for my normal profile. But I'm guessing it's applying that command to root's profile, and not to my user. Is there a way to call gsettings as root, but apply the action to a regular user?
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_> what primary? it will be sda2 the extended taking up the drive from the start, untill almost the end.
[01:08] <Dr_Willis_> you should be able to add that 142gb to sda2
[01:08] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:09] <Dr_Willis_> nice thing about gparted.. you can play it and then cancle the changes. ;)   nothing will happen untill you hit apply i recall.
[01:09] <maxb> ish. flags changes happen immediately IIRC
[01:10] <WinstonSmith> hi :) my keyboard does not work with newer kernels (for example latest stable which i did compile myself and got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/). i do however have a keyboard in /proc/bus/input/devices and a keyb device in  /sys/class/input/{event|input} any ideas how i might get closer to the root of the problem?
[01:10] <fossterer> Dr_Willis_: "add that 142gb to sda2" Confirm me if this just works.. All my questions would have been answered with that
[01:10] <Dr_Willis_> fossterer:  it should be doable. if you can get space out of a extenede.. you should be able to put space back in.. its just resizeing the extended
[01:11] <Geo> Hi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?
[01:11] <noname071896> anybody know what kind of changes we can expect when ubuntu switches x.org for mir?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> which is sda2. which has a Key/lock on it in that image.. so you CANT do it with it mounted/inuse
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> noname071896:  other then total chaos and  mass ranting in this channel? :)
[01:11] <noname071896> yeah
[01:11] <Dr_Willis_> noname071896:  from what i 'hear'  the change shouldbe transparent to most people. if it works properly
[01:12] <noname071896> i'm gonna be honest, i'm not going any further than 13.04, and i'm switching to arch as soon as i get it 100% working
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> i imagine the nvidia and ati users will have the hardest time of it all. but thats what Xmir is for.
[01:12] <Dr_Willis_> noname071896:  jokes on you.. you NEVER get arch 100% working. ;)
[01:12] <noname071896> actually i did
[01:12] <noname071896> but i done goofed
[01:12] <noname071896> and messed it up
[01:12] <noname071896> so now i have to start over
[01:12] <Ari-Yang> >never get something 100% working
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> i broke an arch install once by installing some.. err.. manual/docs packages.. ;) yers ago.. havent tried it sence then.
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> btw this discussion should be chatted in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:13] <noname071896> point taken
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> ubuntu is focusing on conergance of their phone/tablet/pc - - so thats their design goal. arch has totally differnt goals. so it depends on your needs.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis_> convergance
[01:14] <Dr_Willis_> 'the latest buzz word'
[01:14] <noname071896> i think it has something to do with user friendly-ness and expanding their market as well
[01:14] <noname071896> their trying to make it more accessible for standard, non tech literate people
[01:15] <Dr_Willis_> I honestly think they are just throwing things out there. and seeing what sticks. ;)
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> honestly that's about all you can do in most of life. ;)
[01:19] <Dr_Willis_> targeting the 'idiot' market - often is not the best idea however ;) no matter how nice you want to be to them.. they just seem to expect things to get dumbed down even more. ;)  but time will tell.
[01:21] <noname071896> targeting the 'idiot' market is exactly why i'm switching to arch, but on a more related topic, how long has everyone been using ubuntu
[01:22] <qin> noname071896: too long, off to sabayon ;)
[01:22] <noname071896> sabayon
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> noname071896, well arch is perfect for the market. ;)
[01:22] <noname071896> sabayon?
[01:22] <noname071896> what market?
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> there all linux hardly a difference really
[01:23] <dougiel> how is the new ubuntu - should I take the plunge? 13.04 now will 13.10 fix my bluetooth woes?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis_> dougiel:  get the live  cd and test it out?
[01:23] <dougiel> Dr_Willis_, good advice
[01:23] <noname071896> so like i was saying, how long has everyone been using ubuntu
[01:23] <dougiel> ty
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> noname071896, You used the market reference; think about it.
[01:24] <SchrodingersScat> !poll | noname071896
[01:24] <dougiel> Dr_Willis_, but it won't bugger my 13.04 will it?
[01:24] <JurassicJon> noname071896, i've been on and off ubuntu for years, but i think i have finally made the full switch now
[01:24] <dougiel> err I mean upgradeing Dr_Willis_
[01:24] <Dr_Willis_> dougiel:   no idea.
[01:25] <dougiel> lol
[01:25] <Dr_Willis_> dougiel:  upgrades can always carry risk
[01:27] <Geo> Hi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis_> i dont think you can kill zombie processes... thats why they are called zombies.
[01:28] <Dr_Willis_> I think they get 'reaped' every so often. but i cant recall where i read this at.. some techy articals  ages ago i imagine
[01:29] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy linux articals and kernel books ages ago. ;)
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> they ndon't eat much more than your brains
[01:30] <fossterer> wilee-nilee: maxb: Dr_Willis_: I think I am in a position now to start that work... Thanks for your responses
[01:33] <Geo> thanks
[01:36] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[01:37] <SuperLag> Arch? BAH.
[01:40] <PinkSwing> I replaced Network-manager with Wicd as my Wifi connection was unreliable. But now Wicd does not appear in the indicator applet in the panel at the top of the screen. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome Classic. I have added 'Wicd' to the indicator panel whitelist under dconf-editor Unity panel settings but it makes no difference. I also tried setting this to ['All'] but this does not work either. The Wicd icon is also not there in Unity
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm. Im not clear on why wicd woule make the network conection more reliable. the system is  still using the same wifi drivers
[01:42] <trism> PinkSwing: the whitelist is for unity, those things would show up in the Notification Area applet for the panel
[01:42] <Dr_Willis_> PinkSwing:  checked askubuntu.com yet on replaceing network manager with wicd? thee may be some tricks/tips there.
[01:42] <trism> PinkSwing: assuming it has a status icon
[01:42] <Dr_Willis_> Im not sure  how much that whitelist for  the indicator applets is even used any more.
[01:43] <trism> yeah it's gone in 13.04
[01:44] <Dr_Willis_> i still liked how windowmaker had its dock-applets for things like that. :) let me decide what i wanted to see/keep/rearange.
[01:44] <PinkSwing> Dr_Willis_: The reason I changed to Wicd is because this post recommended it http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/09/slow-erratic-wifi-ubuntu1204-fixed.html
[01:44] <elliott04> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a terrible old netbook I was given. After creating a USB boot drive, the installation fails and drops to an Initramfs prompt. This has happened with both Ubuntu and Mint Mate. Not sure what I am doing wrong.
[01:44] <Dr_Willis_> i have like 11 icons in the top right icon list.. which i rarely ever use.
[01:45] <Dr_Willis_> elliott04:  try the boot-repair tool perhaps.
[01:45] <Dr_Willis_> !fixgrub | elliott04
[01:46] <PinkSwing> trism: Yes I thought Unity Whitelist was irrelevant for gnome classic but it was worth a try. Wicd doesnt appear in the Notification Area applet for gnome.
[01:48] <PinkSwing> Dr_Willis_: The main reason I changed to Wicd is that my Wifi connection kept not working and sometimes disconnecting altogether. This has happened on two different routers and my android portable hotspot. Network Manager kept asking for the WPA key again and again even though it had not changed.
[01:50] <Dr_Willis_> does wicd even need to be in the noticication area to work?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis_> i thought wicd had a cli-variant also
[01:54] <PinkSwing> Dr_Willis_: Wicd doesnt need to be in the notification area to work: I can run the client from the menu. I just wanted it a signal strength icon in my panel as I often have problems with internet dropping so being able to just glance at it is handy. Also being able to click on it to change networks was handy too. I wonder if it's more an issue with the wifi driver than the network manager but then lots of people in the forums seem to me
[01:54] <Guest63466> could anyone help me with a problem with etheret on 13.1
[01:56] <PinkSwing> Is there an anti spam bot in here? Someone just private messaged me a spam link to a webcam
[01:56] <Guest63466> my problem is on a dual boot windows system and my ethernet is not being identified on the ubuntu side
[01:56] <Guest63466> there are a few forums about it but i cant seem to get anything to work
[01:58] <hays> is anyone else getting the behaviour where they get 400 windows saying their computer is going to go into suspend mode if they leave it alone for a little while?  it looks like something is kicking up this window every so ofthen when the computer is (attempting to?) sleep
[01:58] <PinkSwing> Guest63466: When you say the ethernet is not being identified, what do you mean exactly? What is the expected behaviour?
[01:59] <PinkSwing> Guest63466: And what is not happening?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis_> you mean wifi networking or a wired nic also Guest63466 ?
[01:59] <wrl_> Anyone have an idea of how to get the unity dashboard to function?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis_> wrl_:  what unity dashboard do you mean?
[01:59] <MonkeyDust> 3am here, good night
[02:00] <xmetal> :) @ swapped my (still good) 15inch screen for a 19 inch LCD someone didn't want
[02:00] <Guest63466> so to those answering my etherent question- I can see it attempting a connection but it does not go through. The windows 7 partition has full internet connectivity
[02:00] <Guest63466> interestingly I loaded this partition off of a live usb drive, and the live usb boot has internet connectivity just fine
[02:01] <wrl_> The icon at the top left on the panel.  If I click on it, I get the page that should show files, applications, and whatever I search for. But on mine nothing happens except that the page opens.
[02:01] <Guest63466> Dr.willis i mean wired etherent
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> wrl_:  make a new user - see if it works for them
[02:02] <PinkSwing> Guest63466: Do you mean that when you plug in an ethernet cable, the Network Manager icon just goes round and round for ever but the Wired connection icon doesnt ever show?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> wrl_:  if a new user works - that points to a user setting issue with the problem user
[02:02] <wrl_> Guest63466: What do you see if you open a terminal and type "ifconfig" w/o the quotes of course.
[02:02] <Guest63466> yes. it eventually says disconnected after going around and around
[02:03] <Guest63466> ok i will attempt to make a new user
[02:03] <Dr_Willis_> that was for wrl_  ;)
[02:03] <Guest63466> oh
[02:03] <Guest63466> ok
[02:03] <wrl_> Dr_Willis_:  I already tried that.  Same behaviour.
[02:04] <Guest63466> so here is the series, it boots attempts to connect to ethernet, and then says disconnected without ever giving a connection
[02:05] <Dr_Willis_> sounds like a bug with the wire nic's chipset drivers    you said you tried some fix's Guest63466 ?
[02:05] <xmetal> odd ... awhile back i was at a wifi ap that windows 7 couldn't see (that the AP even was there) ... started a Ubuntu like distro (those who know me know what one) and the AP was detected and connected too just fine
[02:05] <xmetal> :) @ ubuntu
[02:05] <Guest63466> multiple soureces said it was due to dual booting the system and the windows driver shuts down the lan
[02:06] <Guest63466> so i tried a fix in bios and nothing happened
[02:06] <Dr_Willis_> Guest63466:  try powering OFF the system. and booting straight to ubuntu,  not a reboot from windows. perhaps
[02:06] <Guest63466> I have dr.willis its a partitioned drive
[02:06] <Dr_Willis_> ive seen a few weird hard ware devices that windows would put in a mode that linux couldent reset
[02:06] <Guest63466> so i am booting directly into ubuntu
[02:06] <CrackerJack> quit
[02:06] <Dr_Willis_> other then that. no idea. driver bugs can be a pain.
[02:06] <Guest63466> also i stress that the USB i loaded this off of has a live partition, and when booting to the partition there IS live etherent
[02:07] <wrl_> Guest63466:  That is after actually doing a full shutdown?
[02:07] <elliott04> Maybe I dont understand, but that doesnt appear to help me. I have windows 7 installed on the netbook without ubuntu - which has never been installed as of yet. I have made a live usb via unetbootin and changed my bios to boot from it. When I reboot the netbook, I not shown the Ubuntu language select like the wiki shows - instead a blue box with the UNetbootin title, and one option for Default. When selected, a wall of text occurs,
[02:07] <elliott04> After that I am left at the Initramfs propt.
[02:07] <Guest63466> wrl yes.
[02:08] <wrl_> Have you done an ifconfig to see if the device is recognized by the network software?
[02:08] <Guest63466> no what would the command be
[02:09] <wrl_> In a terminal, type "ifconfig"
[02:09] <xmetal> i admit i neer worked with Unetbootin ... i make (via windows) boot usbs with a different app
[02:09] <xmetal> dang i forgot the name
[02:09] <xmetal> wubi ?
[02:10] <xmetal> brb
[02:10] <xmetal> Yumi is what the exe says
[02:10] <Guest63466> ok i did ifconfig and it read as eth1
[02:10] <wrl_> Guest63466: Also while you'r there type "lsub" to see what kind of ethernet device you have.
[02:10] <xmetal> (that sounds like baby-talk.. lol)
[02:11] <PinkSwing> Guest63466: wrl_: I think that should be "lsusb" ;-P
[02:11] <xmetal> !bootusb
[02:11] <xmetal> hmm thats not it
[02:11] <wrl_> Guest63466: but it does not show an IP address like the l0 interface does, yes?
[02:11] <xmetal> !usb
[02:12] <xmetal> www.pendrivelinux.com i think is the url i was trying to think of
[02:12] <xmetal> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ yes
[02:13] <elliott04> im going to move the ISO over to the netbook from my mac, and try and make the live usb there instead.
[02:14] <elliott04> We'll see how that goes.
[02:15] <Guest63466> sorry lost connection for a sec
[02:15] <Guest63466> im back dr.willis
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[02:15] <Guest63466> so 1sub did not work
[02:15] <Dr_Willis_> lsusb
[02:15] <Dr_Willis_> with an L.
[02:16] <Guest63466> oh
[02:16] <wrl_> Guest634666:  That is an el not a 1
[02:16] <Guest63466> ok i have bus 001 deviced oo4, obda:00182
[02:17] <Guest63466> realket semiconductor corrp
[02:17] <wrl_> Guest63466: It will only show the ethernet device if it is a usb device but in most new hardware it is.  Does it give the brand and chipset?
[02:17] <IamTrying> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elS3tdsy2yo  - How to do this in Ubuntu ? What do we call this scree-saver or screen virtual animations??
[02:17] <Guest63466> realket 0182 i think is my ethernet
[02:17] <Guest63466> realtek*
[02:18] <PinkSwing> How can I check which wifi card I have? I looked in Additional Drivers in the System Settings and apparently I have a proprietary Broadcom STA proprietary driver (tested by the Ubuntu developers it says) activated. However, I don't know exactly which card I have?
[02:19] <wrl_> Guest63466: pretty sure that is supported.
[02:19] <wrl_> Are you using a DHCP network?
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: seems like its a win screen animation
[02:20] <IamTrying> lotuspsychje, YEA - what does it call ? How do i do this in Ubuntu desktop ?
[02:20] <DasEi> PinkSwing: iwconfig or hwinfo
[02:20] <Guest63466> i believe so i have verizon fios router
[02:20] <DasEi> !wireless
[02:20] <Guest63466> i think its set to dhcp
[02:20] <PinkSwing> I am wondering if I need to use an NDIS wrapper driver instead of the proprietary Broadcom wifi driver. Maybe that would make the connection more reliable. On the other hand, maybe I need to see how it goes with wicd, but it would be nice to have the tray icon back
[02:20] <PinkSwing> DasEi: Thanks
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: you can always try it on wine..nut not sure this will work, never seen an alternative like that for ubuntu
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | PinkSwing
[02:22] <IamTrying> lotuspsychje, OK - what does this functionality calls "NAME" of this feature? so that can be searched in youTube for linux
[02:22] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[02:22] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[02:22] <wrl_> Guest63466: do you know the pool range for the router?
[02:23] <DasEi> !wireless | PinkSwing
[02:23] <Guest63466> i have access to the router page but i am inexperienced with it
[02:23] <wrl_> Guest63466: what kind of numbers is it assigning?
[02:24] <PinkSwing> DasEi: Thanks again. Not sure how I check exactly which Broadcom I have. I have tried hwinfo|grep wireless but that isnt working. Anyway, I need to read those links you sent.
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> PinkSwing: lshw -C network
[02:24] <Dr_Willis_> lspci or lsusb my also give some info
[02:24] <DasEi> .. :)
[02:24] <wrl_> Guest63466: What I'm thinking is to give you a command to manually set the interface and see if that works.
[02:25] <DasEi> PinkSwing: yes, this a good step by step guide, and feel free to ask again
[02:26] <Guest63466> ok the router pool is set to give increasing numbers like <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:26] <wrl_> Guest63466: If the router is assigning you numbers like <IP_ADDRESS> where the "3" might be anything from 2 to 20 then we can just use a number outside of that range.
[02:26] <Guest63466> then <IP_ADDRESS> and so on
[02:26] <Guest63466> so i have 8 connections up to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:26] <Guest63466> one second i will run lspci
[02:27] <wrl_> Guest63466: Give me a few minutes... I'm having some difficulty here.  I'll be back with a command to try in a bit.
[02:28] <Guest63466> said ethernet controller RTL8111/8168/8411
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: not sure whats it called precisely, maybe browse software centre for animations?
[02:29] <ezio> i have an amazon ec2 ubuntu 13.10 .. for some reason every time i run ssh as a user i creatred i get Permission denied (publickey).
[02:29] <ezio> even if i'm trying to ssh out
[02:29] <Guest63466> ok i will stand by guys thanks so much for the help
[02:29] <ezio> like ssh localhost
[02:30] <Guest63466> this is so frustrating because it works on the live usb but not the hard disk install!
[02:30] <IamTrying> How come Ubuntu do not have such stuffs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elS3tdsy2yo
[02:31] <IamTrying> Virtual Pets or calls Screen Virtual pets?
[02:31] <Dr_Willis_> a virtual pet screensaver?
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106624/tools-for-3d-animations-models-skeletons-and-other-animation-techniques
[02:32] <PinkSwing> Dr_Willis_: DasEi: lotuspsychje: Thanks. My wifi card is a Broadcom 4313 and apparently the proprietary driver is the one recommended. Now I'm just wondering if I should leave the laptop running overnight and check the logs in the morning to see how often the wifi connection has a problem now that I am using Wicd instead of Network Manager. Then I could try the same thing tomorrow with Network-Manager. At least that way I would have mor
[02:32] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, YES
[02:32] <ubukou> hey folks, i ve had a nightmare of a day trying to install a new graphics card. i has problems i have never seen before. for starters i can only see the post message for the RAID configuration. I can blindly choose which operating system to boot on grub(ubuntu is a black screen). if i boot into windows, i can only work in 800x600 and in 16 colors. any tips?
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> PinkSwing: can you describe what your actual problem is with your wifi connection
[02:32] <ubukou> my psu is 750watts and the GPU is GTX650
[02:33] <ubukou> can it be that i have 9 disks (6 RAID+3 normal)
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> ubukou: wich ubuntu version?
[02:34] <Dr_Willis_> ubukou:  you did plug the power conector to the video card?
[02:35] <wrl_> Guest63466: You don't have 2 ethernet interfaces do you? If not try "ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" and if there are no errors follow with "ifconfig eth0"
[02:35] <ubukou> Dr_Willis_, lotuspsychje i have. i have used the pci-e connector that is onboard the PSU( not the extra one, the Red.) im running ubuntu 12.10
[02:36] <Guest63466> i have a duel boot system with win 7, is that 2 interfaces?
[02:36] <wrl_> Guest63466: No it isn't
[02:36] <ubukou> dr_willis, i understand that a system needs more amps to start. can it be that the GPU has not enough power to start? i mean 9 disks is not that much
[02:36] <Guest63466> in that case just 1 interface
[02:36] <PinkSwing> IamTrying: Here are some virtual Pets. Is this what you had in mind? http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download/ubuntu-virtual-pet-4759738.html             http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38661        but my favourite is http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/oneko-app-creates-cute-cat-chasing-around-your-mouse/       which reminds me of xcat we had on Sun workstations at uni 20 years ago
[02:36] <Guest63466> so i will try what you said just now
[02:36] <wrl_> Guest63466: If you get an error, let me know what it is.
[02:37] <Guest63466> ok
[02:37] <Guest63466> error after the first command
[02:38] <Guest63466> siocsifaddr: operation not permitted
[02:38] <Guest63466> eth0: error while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:38] <wrl_> Guest63466: Oops... prepend "sudo "
[02:38] <Guest63466> reads that twice
[02:38] <Guest63466> ok
[02:38] <Guest63466> same error
[02:38] <Guest63466> with sudo
[02:39] <Guest63466> i think my internet is eth1
[02:39] <garcianc> does ifconfig -a show eth0?
[02:39] <Guest63466> that is what it has been reading
[02:39] <wrl_> Guest63466: Hummm, back in a second.
[02:39] <Guest63466> ifconfig says eth1
[02:40] <Somefellow> Hey there, does anybody know why "swapon" is throwing me this when I am logged into root? swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Operation not permitted
[02:40] <PinkSwing> lotuspsychje: For several weeks I have had an intermittent connection. Wifi would randomly disconnect or just suddenly be very slow: typically in the middle of some streaming media like a radio program. Today it's been excruciatingly slow, but changing to wicd seems at first sight to have speeded things up (at least, opening web pages seems to be faster for the last half hour since I installed wicd). So I would like to check that instal
[02:40] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a calendar in thudnerbird and it was working till last update of the ubuntu. Does anybody know what should I do? It is not working at the moment. Ubuntu 13.10
[02:41] <garcianc> Guest63466, try the command with eth1 and see if you get the same error
[02:41] <Guest63466> ok
[02:41] <mojtaba> I have lighting 2.6.1 and provider for google calendar 0.25
[02:41] <wrl_> Guest63466: OK try it with changing eth0 to eth1 (and don't forget the sudo like I did).
[02:41] <mojtaba> Also I have installed QuickFox Notes 2.8.1, but it is not working too!!
[02:41] <mojtaba> It seems ubuntu 13.10 is a total mess!
[02:42] <mojtaba> lots of problems.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis_> never heard of quickfox notes
[02:42] <IamTrying> http://i.imgur.com/Ac7xsvE.png  - Great this is what i mean working  PinkSwing, lotuspsychje , Dr_Willis_
[02:42] <Dr_Willis_> !info lighting
[02:42] <wrl_> mojtaba:  I see, I'm not alone!
[02:42] <Guest63466> ok wrl that worked
[02:42] <mojtaba> wrl_: Do you have the same problem?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis_> IamTrying:  i dont know what that image is supposed to be showing...
[02:43] <Guest63466> and gave and output of a bunch of text with the adresses we put in
[02:43] <wrl_> mojtaba: no, mine is that the unity dashboard is dead.
[02:43] <garcianc> does ifconfig show the interface eth1 up?
[02:43] <cipherboy> Question: ifconfig and conky cannot seem to detect the usage on my eth0 interface. Ideas? dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6309863/  ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6309862/    | Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 08)
[02:43] <mojtaba> I will stick to the next LTS. :(
[02:44] <mojtaba> is 14.04 the next LTS?
[02:44] <wrl_> Guest63466: OK, you probably don't have a route or any nameservers set up... type "route" and see what you get.
[02:44] <PinkSwing> Saucy Salamander? Are they having a laugh?!
[02:44] <Dr_Willis_> PinkSwing:  we liked dapper drake better. ;)
[02:44] <Guest63466> route gave a bunch of blank fields
[02:44] <Dr_Willis_> a Duck with a Top hat is so much cooler.
[02:44] <DasEi1> Somefellow: tried it as root/sudo ?
[02:44] <Guest63466> like destination gateway genmask
[02:45] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[02:45] <mojtaba> :(
[02:45] <Somefellow> It was through root, and yeah nothing changes with sudo
[02:45] <DasEi1> !LTS
[02:45] <Somefellow> I tried googling it, apparently its an OpenVZ issue
[02:45] <mysterbubbles> How would I set an internal DVD drive to auto mount upon DVD insertion in Ubuntu Server (i.e. headless setup, without gnome)? -- Anyone have any ideas?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis_> !info autofs | mysterbubbles
[02:45]  * genii ponders the TrustyTahr
[02:45] <garcianc> Guest63466,  does ifconfig show an address for eth1?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis_> mysterbubbles:  dident you ask this about 3 hrs ago?
[02:46] <Guest63466> wrl route gave me a few blank fields
[02:46] <xmetal> mot, i think it is
[02:46] <DasEi1> mysterbubbles: you can set this in /etc/fstab
[02:46] <xmetal> (14.04 next LTS)
[02:46] <DasEi1> !fstab | mysterbubbles
[02:46] <LinuxGuy2020> I installed ubuntu-server and I have used wpa_supplicant and wpa_passphrase to get wifi working on my headless mini-itx server. I have minidlna running at boot but it throws an error and doesnt start. Im guessing that its starting before the wifi does. But its a complete guess. How can I fix this?
[02:46] <mysterbubbles> Dr_Willis_: sure did, it was recommended that i look at automount in repos, but i'm not sure what that means. Were you the one to recommend it?
[02:47] <PinkSwing> And what happens after we get to Xenophobic Xenurine, Yammering Yak, and Zealous Zebra? Do we go back to Arachnophobic Aardvark?
[02:47] <cipherboy> Also, running 3.11.0-12, 13.10.  I know it worked before this latest version of Ubuntu..
[02:47] <LinuxGuy2020> minidlna worked fine with the LAN hooked up. But I want to make this mini-itx server headless and wireless.
[02:47] <mysterbubbles> DasEi1: I did create an entry in fstab mounting /dev/dvd to /media/cdrom, but that isn't working for me.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis_> mysterbubbles:  theres most likely severaal services in the reositories that can do what yopu want.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis_> mysterbubbles:  'autofs' seems to be one of them
[02:47] <wrl_> Guest63466: try "sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev lo"
[02:48] <Dr_Willis_> !info automount
[02:48] <mysterbubbles> Dr_Willis_: is autofs a better option than fstab?
[02:48] <LinuxGuy2020> The ftp, transmission, and samba daemons all start just fine. Minidlna is the only one giving me grief.
[02:49] <DasEi1> mysterbubbles: set it to auto with the corresponding permissions (and also the /media/cd.. -dir?)
[02:49] <PinkSwing> Dr_Willis_: I have a fondness for Hardy Heron since that's where I started in Linux. Another bird with a hat on, but this time a bowler!
[02:50] <mysterbubbles> DasEi1: this is what I have that isn't working now: "/dev/dvd /media/cdrom auto user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0"
[02:50] <Dr_Willis_> mysterbubbles:  you wanted it to mount on insertion automatically.. fstab will not do that
[02:50] <Dr_Willis_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[02:50] <mysterbubbles> Dr_Willis_: gotcha. I'll give that a try, thanks.
[02:51] <DasEi1> mysterbubbles: Run Nautilus and open Edit => Preferences > Media. Turn on "Browse media when inserted".
[02:51] <mysterbubbles> DasEi1: this is a headless server, no gui available
[02:51] <Guest63466> ok wrl trying now
[02:52] <Guest63466> command went through
[02:52] <wrl_> Guest63466: try "sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>"
[02:53] <Guest63466> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[02:54] <nullbyte_> why I don't have in right corner shutdown icons clock/date etc.. ?
[02:54] <nullbyte_> in Gnome
[02:54] <wrl_> Guest63466: Arg! That is your router ip address isn't it?
[02:54] <Guest63466> um in my browser i type <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:54] <garcianc> that's not going to work so well if eth1 is in the 192.168.1 network
[02:55] <DasEi1> mysterbubbles: I'm also used to automount, which isn't there no more; pmount might be your friend, but I have to draw back, can't really say, as I haven't used it myself, sry
[02:55] <wrl_> Guest63466: Sorry, change the number I gave you to that one and try again.
[02:55] <Guest63466> to access my router command browser so it may be <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:56] <Guest63466> ok trying now
[02:56] <Guest63466> same error :(
[02:56] <wrl_> Guest63466: What is the address we gave the interface?
[02:56] <garcianc> I was about to ask that for the 3rd time
[02:57] <Guest63466> um the first ip you gave?
[02:57] <wrl_> Guest63466: Yes
[02:57] <Guest63466> 225?
[02:57] <Zeek> wireless drivers support
[02:57] <garcianc> that's a problem, that is a broadcast address
[02:58] <Guest63466> was <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:59] <garcianc> I would have used sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <wrl_> Guest63466: ifconfig should show <IP_ADDRESS> as the address
[03:00] <Guest63466> says this after ifconfig
[03:00] <Guest63466> eth1 inte addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <Guest63466> bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <wrl_> garcianc:  I left out the brodcast and netmask as they will default.
[03:01] <Guest63466> mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:01] <wrl_> Guest63466: Type "ping -c5 localhost"
[03:01] <Guest63466> oing:unknown host localhost-
[03:02] <pogiako> hello
[03:02] <DasEi1> !hi
[03:02] <Guest63466> ping:unkown host localhost-
[03:02] <pogiako> how is 13.10 doing?
[03:02] <wrl_> Guest63466: Gads! type "ping -c5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:03] <Dr_Willis_> Guest63466:  thers no - as far as i know in localhost
[03:03] <Guest63466> do you want to ping broadcast? then -b
[03:03] <Guest63466> type -b?
[03:04] <wrl_> Guest63466: No -c5, you want to go directly to the interface.
[03:04] <Guest63466> type -c5?
[03:05] <wrl_> Guest63466: that just a count so ping will quit after 5 pings.
[03:05] <wrl_> Guest63466: the command is "ping -c5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:06] <wrl_> Guest63466: I'm sorry... <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <Guest63466> ok i typed that and it says do you want to ping broadcast then -b
[03:07] <Guest63466> oh
[03:07] <jakstar> Wifi not working in Ubuntu LTS 12.04
[03:07] <Guest63466> ok trying with the cahnge
[03:07] <wrl_> Guest63466: yeah, the last octet of 0 implies a broadcast
[03:07] <Guest63466> ok now it went
[03:07] <Guest63466> 5 packets transmitted
[03:07] <Guest63466> 5 recieved
[03:07] <jakstar> when I boot it says something not found and something else not found then it says go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers for instructions
[03:08] <wrl_> Guest63466: Great. Now try "ping -c5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:08] <jakstar> i dont know what to do on that page
[03:08] <Guest63466> ok that went
[03:08] <Guest63466> 5 packets transmitted
[03:08] <jakstar> how do i find out what wireless card i have
[03:08] <pogiako> how is 13.10 doing guys?
[03:08] <wrl_> jakstar:  you need to determine what wireless device you have in your computer.
[03:09] <jakstar> how  do i find that?
[03:09] <jakstar> i ran this lspci -k
[03:09] <mamoit> Use hardinfo
[03:10] <jakstar> and it gave me this 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Pavilion dv6700 	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30cc 	Kernel driver in use: i915 	Kernel modules: intelfb, i915 00
[03:10] <jakstar> what does it mean?
[03:10] <pogiako> tablet, like iPad
[03:10] <Guest63466> wrl that ping worked
[03:10] <pogiako> oh sorry wrong send haha
[03:11] <wrl_> Guest63466: I'm not so hopeful with this next one but lets try it anyway "ping -c5 <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:11] <mamoit> @jakstar just run hardinfo
[03:12] <Guest63466> connect: network is unreachable
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how can i check if my ubuntu box is encrypted
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> i remember there was a command
[03:12] <Psil0Cybin> i want to make sure my whole machine is encrypted and not just my home directory
[03:13] <jakstar> i checked in device manager and it says i have this driver installed broadcom 802.11b g
[03:13] <wrl_> Guest63466: Yeah, let me take a look at the route commands again to see if maybe I messed it up.  You have more than one machine on your LAN?
[03:13] <Guest63466> no
[03:13] <lanlingking> irc聊天的内容
[03:13] <Guest63466> just the 1 and everything else is wireless
[03:13] <wrl_> Guest63466: Its the same LAN though isn't it?
[03:15] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: youn simply look at sudo fdisk -l and see the partition-types
[03:15] <Guest63466> yes same router
[03:15] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: and oc /boot is always plain, on a LUKS-system
[03:15] <wrl_> Guest63466: What is the IP of the machine that you are using now?
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: what would it look like if its encrypted?
[03:16] <Guest63466> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <jakstar> can someone help me to determine what my wifi adapter is????
[03:16] <Psil0Cybin> can i post it on a pastebin?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis_> jakstar:  'lspci' and 'lsusb' should give a clue as its chipset.
[03:16] <wrl_> Guest63466: OK, remember that, I'll be right back.
[03:16] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: sec, I do a pastie
[03:16] <Guest63466> ok
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: http://pastebin.com/9NZr02NL here is the paste, keep in mind i have a windows7 partition as well on this computer
[03:18] <Psil0Cybin> 40 something gb ubuntu install
[03:19] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: if it is not encrypted what can i do to encrypt my whole computer
[03:20] <wrl_> Guest63466: try "sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  eth0"
[03:20] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: looking now, similar to this (fake numbers in this example) http://pastebin.com/ASVBLguH
[03:20] <PinkSwing> I found how to check the log for Network Manager:        grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog            I tried the same for wicd:     grep -i wicd /var/log/syslog     but that doesnt show much of interest. You can see both at http://pastebin.com/Y9VRpUpL        Anyone know how I would check the log for wicd?
[03:20] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: Is the win on the same hd ?
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: yes
[03:20] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: looking at what you stated it doesnt look like its encrypted
[03:20] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: using uefi or mbr boot ?
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> i dont know
[03:21] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: which you installed first, win or ubuntu ?
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> win
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> win came with the machine
[03:21] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: newer motherboard ?
[03:21] <Psil0Cybin> im waiting till i want to format to remove it and do a full out xubuntu install
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> um its an acer aspire one d270-1628
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> i remember someone helpd me before with a command that encrypted it
[03:22] <Psil0Cybin> but that was on my other comp i forget the command
[03:25] <genii> DasEi1: I have that same Acer, it doesn't have UEFI
[03:26] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: see, the problem is the bootloader, UEFI also uses something similar to a /boot, and the initiation of the en/decryption-process always starts in Plain. If you want a dualboot with whole disk encryption 1.install win /w truecrypt 2.install xubuntu /w Luks  3./make the truecrypt loader handle over to xubuntu's grub, when wanted;; ah no uefi is ('lil) less complicated, but same food
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> ohhhh so i have a problem because im dual booted?
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> i am confused
[03:26] <Psil0Cybin> i just want to encrypt the ubuntu partition
[03:27] <Psil0Cybin> i was thinking of using gparted to remove the windows partition and make ubuntu larger, but people said its not recommended.
[03:27] <emperor> spanish
[03:27] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: just the ubu ? then 1.)win  (leave space on hd!) then xubu/grub, it will pic up the win to it's menu
[03:27] <DasEi1> !dualboot
[03:28] <emperor> #ubuntu-es
[03:28] <genii> emperor: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:28] <DasEi1> emperor  /j #ubuntu-es
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> what DasEi1 sorry I am confused...sorry i remember there being a command that used cryptsomething not truecrypt but someting that comes with ubuntu
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> to encrypt all my files
[03:28] <Psil0Cybin> i did it on my HP but it was only a Ubuntu laptop
[03:29] <emperor> genii DasEil  Thanks !!
[03:30] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: you COULD fully encrypt an existing ubuntu-installation, but that's painfull, better do a fresh install and use the installers options , so all that lvm-tuff is done for you
[03:30] <Nautilus> is www-data a user, a group, or maybe both?
[03:30] <DasEi1> stuff*
[03:30] <ubuntu-studio> helo
[03:30] <Dr_Willis_> Nautilus:  i think its both. its a special user.
[03:31] <DasEi1> Nautilus: try users and groups on it
[03:31] <genii> Nautilus: It's the user and group which webserver runs under
[03:31] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 it suggests that you can mount using cryptsetup
[03:31] <genii> ( usually uid 33)
[03:32] <Psil0Cybin> i mean you can encrypt using cryptsetup
[03:32] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: you COULD fully encrypt an existing ubuntu-installation, but that's painfull, better do a fresh install and use the installers options , so all that lvm-stuff is done, else have to shavel around all your data, lot's of manual config... can't recommend it
[03:32] <Psil0Cybin> okay okay
[03:32] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: so thats what ill do sometime this week i suppose.
[03:33] <Nautilus> ok, thanks all, think I have it now
[03:33] <Psil0Cybin> becasue its a pain in the neck to reformat already
[03:33] <Psil0Cybin> i got everything customized the way i wanted.
[03:33] <EmpEroR> Good evening, I use Kubuntu 13.10, 32 bit Dual Core 4gb ddr2 ram Nvidia GT210 1gb ddr3 asus, but still can not get the effects enabled. I install the proprietary drivers, you need some special command???
[03:34] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: the installers are pretty friendly, see if there is an alternate version maybe, or use an expert install, if the regular installer isn't fine grained enough, netboot also a choice, if available
[03:34] <niel> for a minecraft server what type of server should it be?
[03:34] <niel> ubuntu server edition wants me to choose
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: well if i use the default encryption method, will that just encrypt my home directory or the whole partition?
[03:34] <Psil0Cybin> i want to encrypt swap and everything
[03:35] <Psil0Cybin> or do i have to advance specify
[03:35] <guest_____> Question ---> I am in a forum.  When it says to comment a line in a certain text file, what does 'commenting' mean?
[03:35] <niel> anyone o.o
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, context please=link
[03:36] <Dr_Willis_> guest_____:    #this is a comment - it starts with #
[03:37] <Dr_Willis_> guest_____:   echo hello  this is not commented....
[03:37] <Dr_Willis_> guest_____:  #echo this is a comment.. it will get ignored...
[03:37] <guest_____> wilee-nilee, what doe you mean by "context pelase=link"??
[03:37] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: all Parti's, but /boot by default
[03:37] <Dr_Willis_> guest_____:  what config file are you editing exactly?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> hopefully, generally yes, we guess the forum is following the rules
[03:37] <DasEi1> huh, you could get the settings of /etc and a package list to use it back, but that has a good risk of trouble as packets changed, other window-makers are used and so on, packaelist is fine, so you can get all your setup back, thus still have to configure it again < the safer way   , Psil0Cybin
[03:38] <DasEi1> !clone
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, Do you know the definition of context?
[03:38] <fraud> hey everyone, ok so there is a little desktop settings app in older versions of mint and ubuntu that allows you to view or not view different folders on the desktop without deleting or modifying them, like trash computer and home folders.  Does anyone know the name of this little app and if so it should be available on the ubuntu packages site, yes?
[03:38] <DasEi1> !pm | Psil0Cybin , please stay here
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, In other words when where and how is the term used a link would help/
[03:39] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: so, say again ?
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> orry confusedm going to reformat, but i want to keep my settings can i create an image of my install with my themes, settings, fonts, etc?
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> so i can format and keep everything the same
[03:39] <Psil0Cybin> not my home files but the settings i changed etc
[03:40] <guest_____> Link --> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=130309 Fifth paragraph down.
[03:40] <Rogue-3> Psil0Cybin: it seems relevent to ask why you are reformatting in the first place?
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> in order to encrypt my whole computer Rogue-3
[03:40] <Psil0Cybin> like the whole ubuntu partition
[03:40] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: no, you can either just encrypt home, but thats another method than LUKS, whole disk is LUKS (cryptsetup)
[03:40] <fraud> does anyone know the name of the little app that can show or hide the computer/home/trash folders on the desktop?
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> okay but i want whole disk
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> encryption
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> how would i dothat then?
[03:41] <guest_____> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and trying to fix the cdrom tray ejection issue.
[03:41] <Rogue-3> Psil0Cybin: gotcha, well if you have extra storage somewhere you could just back up your entire filesystem and then restore it after reformatting
[03:41] <DasEi1> LUKS by installer, as told above, Psil0Cybin
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> Oh okay so by DEFAULT it encrypts my whole disk
[03:41] <Psil0Cybin> right?
[03:41] <moppy> guest_____, dr wills was right; 'comment it' means put a '#' at the start of the line, so that the computer does NOT execute it
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, If I read correctly post #8 it is a remove the #
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> Rogue-3: how do i backup my whole filesystem so that i can keep all my themes and settings changes for all my apps, so it will be like i never formatted
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> rather than add it
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> other then im missing files
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> and applications
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> # is a block
[03:42] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: so by default it encrypts my whole disk? sorry wnat to confirm
[03:43] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: option whole disk-e with lvm in the installer you mussn't choose, as that'll kill win, set up an lvm > use as > and so on
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, Actually it is # that line and change it to another sorry.
[03:43] <Rogue-3> Psil0Cybin: personally I'd use rsync but tar or even cp could produce the same end result
[03:44] <DasEi1> Rogue-3: ??
[03:44] <Rogue-3> DasEi1: talking about how to back up his existing system before reformatting the drive to enable the encryption
[03:45] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: after win being installed, you don't want whole disk for ubu, right ?
[03:45] <guest_____> Inside the rules.d file in my Ubuntu install, there is no #.  Should I add it then to tell the computer NOT to execute the line?
[03:45] <DasEi1> Rogue-3: ah , I see
[03:45] <DasEi1> still in setup :)
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, That's what the link is saying, whether doing it is your decision, we have to assume it is correct.
[03:46] <guest_____> Wait, wrong file.  It is 60-cdrom_id.rules
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> wait wait guys lets back up a minute, if im formatting yes i want to remove windows.. i want Ubuntu to be the only operating system and i want it fully encrypted so i cannot see a single thing with a liveCD
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> how would i go about that
[03:46] <Psil0Cybin> i want to start with creating an image or backup of all my system info so i can keep all my themes and application settings
[03:47] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: righty, then use installers option whole... with lvm, all will be set so
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> so that should be all in the GUI right DasEi1 ?
[03:47] <DasEi1> yupp
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> or do i type in advanced commands
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> perfect! :)
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> okay now
[03:47] <Psil0Cybin> next question
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> how can i create an image of my settings
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, adding the # is what tells the computer not to execute.
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> so i can reformat using all my themes/etc
[03:48] <Psil0Cybin> so i have my desktop back jut missing my files
[03:48] <Rogue-3> Psil0Cybin: do you have a network/external hdd you can back up to?
[03:48] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: to the settings all is said above, and to backup I either use rsync for my /home on a secondary drive, or, if 2nd drive is big enough clone it by dd
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> my second drive is 500gbs its big enough
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> oh wait
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> i guess id need to boot from it right
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> if i clone it how many gbs would it be?
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> would it clone all my home files?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  use dd or clonezilla to image the entire hd would be one way
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> clonezilla
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[03:49] <Psil0Cybin> thats it
[03:49] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Dr_Willis_> No idea how encrypted stuff affects those tools.
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> nono encrypting after
[03:50] <Rogue-3> Psil0Cybin: you can clone pretty much everything on a linux system while it is up and running (though it helps to stop as many services as possible)
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> using clonezilla to get my settings
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> okay Rogue-3 thanks and wierd tho guys on my HP i was able to use cryptsetup to encrypt my partition without formatting :P thats why i was confused with all this
[03:50] <Psil0Cybin> i just forgot what i did
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> i remember restarting and seeing a list of every single file
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> being encrypted
[03:51] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: I'd just replicate the packages and have my /home (or if other data-dirs where created, them, too) and go by hand, else one should have some debugging skills handy
[03:51] <Psil0Cybin> someone here helped me do it >.<
[03:52] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: COULD, but hen you really do a footwalk on the highway... I'm not up to it
[03:52] <guest_____> I understand.  Thanks.
[03:52] <fraud> SOMEONE- there is a little app that allows you to show or hide your desktop folders (computer/home/trash). Does anyone know the name of it?
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: there is no easy way eh?
[03:52] <DasEi1> !info cryptsetup
[03:52] <Psil0Cybin> i wish i remembered what i did
[03:53] <DasEi1> !lvm
[03:53] <DasEi1> !info rsync
[03:54] <DasEi1> !info gparted
[03:54] <DasEi1> shall I keep on ?
[03:54] <sophie_> If a filesystem isn't hierarchical, does it mean that you can't have a directory within a directory?
[03:55] <DasEi1> sophie_: yupp
[03:55] <Dr_Willis_> dateing back to C64 days? ;)
[03:55] <DasEi1> hehe
[03:55] <Psil0Cybin> alright DasEi1 i see its alot of work
[03:55] <Dr_Willis_> I recall  when the HD floppy drive came out for the C64/128 - it had a way to make directories. but it was sort of a gimmic. ;P
[03:55] <sophie_> So does that mean you'd have one set of folders with files in them, or does it mean you'd just have one long list of files?
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> hmmm odd tho, i dont get it maybe it was easier before becasue i only had the partitions i needed for ubuntu
[03:56] <Dr_Willis_> sophie_:  one looooooooooooooooooong list.
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> or what it was
[03:56] <sophie_> Dr_Willis_, that sounds like hell
[03:56] <Dr_Willis_> sophie_:  are you doing homework or somthing?
[03:56] <sophie_> I was just watching a video on filesystems
[03:56] <Dr_Willis_> sophie_:  in the C64 days  a  2mb floppy disk was amazeing...
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: if i had only the partitions i needed for ubuntu would it be easier to encrypt my whole partition via the terminal?
[03:56] <Psil0Cybin> i just am confused how i did it before
[03:57] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: even I played around a lot, I'd use an expert cd, instead of shuffling and calculating and configurin and repartioning all that ...muharrr
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> i remember just running one command, typing in a password and restarting the machine and as i did that it listed every file one by one
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> stating it was being encrypted with cryptsetup
[03:57] <Psil0Cybin> yea eh
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: so what is the best way to back up all my themes/icons/changes that i did to the file system like within the /etc/ folder
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> so that i can make sure everything is the same after i format
[03:58] <Psil0Cybin> someone said clonezilla, but i dunno if thats user friendly
[03:58] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: prbly just /home  and enough free disk space
[03:59] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: see above, and scroll back, it's all said in my eyes; don't confuse myself, better have a second link to here when actually doing it
[04:00] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: err,  don't confuse yourself, I wanted to say (am I confused??)
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay DasEi1 would it be possible to encrypt my home directory?
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> so i dont have to format untill i am ready
[04:02] <fraud> how do you hide your desktop folders?
[04:02] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: get your data from both, win&ubu to an external, replicate your packages, do a fresh whd-installation any config by hand fitting new environment
[04:02] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1: I remember doing it by creating a new homedirectory encrypting it, deleting old one, copying the encrypted one over
[04:03] <Psil0Cybin> ah lets take it back a step DasEi1 how can i see if my home directory is encrypted, if not, could you help me encrypt it?
[04:04] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: yesss....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome , few ways to do it; got your fdisk -l pastie again ?
[04:05] <jackstar> how can i install a wifi driver firmware?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis_> if the whole disk is encrypted.. why have home encrypted?
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> AH WALLA DasEi1
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> this is the guide i used
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/
[04:05] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <Psil0Cybin> i encrypted my home directory last time, thats what happend
[04:05] <Dr_Willis_> jackstar:  you copy the files  to the right directory and the driver module loads them. the addational-driver tool normally handles all this
[04:06] <Dr_Willis_> ive seen way to many users sort of lock themselfs out of their own systems by useing encrypted homes and disks Psil0Cybin .
[04:06] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  so be sure to have Non encrypted backups somewhere.
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> how does that happen Dr_Willis_
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> usually
[04:06] <Psil0Cybin> so i can learn from mistakes
[04:07] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  no idea. I dont use encryption.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis_> #1 cause is they dont understand how encryption works..  is my guess.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis_> so they do somthing stupid.
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> makes sense
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> okay Dr_Willis_ is there a command i can run before i do this to see if my home directory is already encrypted
[04:07] <Psil0Cybin> fdisk would only tell me right?
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> something stupid, represented here, no way. ;)
[04:08] <DasEi1> Psil0Cybin: pastie ?
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi1 Dr_Willis_ : Does this tell me if my home directory is encrypted
[04:09] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> I just tried to have gnome 3.8 running in 12.04 and messed up the whole install, I fixed it but still have no ubuntu-desktop, doh
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> I has the shell though
[04:11] <jackstar> [09:07] <jackstar> So this is what I have found out so far.. When I boot I get a prompt to install the correct driver firmware for b43 (broadcom) [09:08] <jackstar> I know that my wifi adapter is BCM4312 and it needs b43 driver firmware [09:08] <jackstar> how do i go about installing this driver firmware?
[04:12] <guest_____> I need help in figuring out why my cdrom/dvd will not eject when issuing said command in terminal.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310122/
[04:12] <DasEi1> brb
[04:13] <Dr_Willis_> wilee-nilee:  ppa-purge the ppa you used for the gnome install. and reinstall ubuntu-desktop perhaps
[04:13] <Dr_Willis_> wilee-nilee:  i recall ages ago people always trying the 3.8 repos and breaking their 12.04 setups. :)
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> guest_____,  try eject /dev/sr0
[04:14] <Dr_Willis_> ive noticed that i dont get a link from /dev/dvd  to /dev/sr0 any more also.. not sure why thats going on
[04:14] <Dr_Willis_> it sure confuses a lot of apps.
[04:16] <guest_____> "Unable to find or open device"
[04:16] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: any more questions ? another way : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder  or another, use a truecrypt container which automounts at startup | getting tired here, fetching coffe
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis_, Heh, I did the deed and lost firefox as well, and did not follow my own preaching on processes in order and deleted the ppa's from the sources.list.d and then ran the ppa-purge on two ppa's, I have gnome 3.4 back no biggie and never use the ubuntu dektop anyway, had to install lubuntu in the process to get another desktop, this was kinda fun, lol. Oh and tried to reload a clonezilla image
[04:17] <wilee-nilee>  that was from a bigger partition and bricked 12.04 would not read and had to fsck it.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> I'm such a noob
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> feels like a 12 step deceleration
[04:18] <SPEEDWAVE> HI TO ALL
[04:18] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: i dont remember if i set this install to encrypt my home directory already from install can i confirm somehow via a command
[04:18] <Psil0Cybin> if my home directory is encrypted
[04:19] <DasEi> !info pastebinit
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> declaration*
[04:19] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: it says Check with ls -A /home. There should be a .ecryptfs folder, if you have encryption of your home folder.
[04:19] <Vivekananda> hi everyone
[04:19] <Psil0Cybin> i see the .ecryptfs file there
[04:19] <Vivekananda> can I create a live usb with two oses ?
[04:19] <Psil0Cybin> does that make sense http://askubuntu.com/questions/146511/how-to-check-if-your-home-folder-and-swap-partition-are-encrypted-using-terminal
[04:19] <hedgehog35> Hi, beginner here and wondering if anyone has had success using PHP+Sqlite3 on ubuntu?  I can't get it to work and its driving me nuts
[04:20] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l > pastebinit ,then give the output here
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, Full installs or ISO's yes, separate partitions for full installs
[04:20] <guest_____> I wish the eject command via terminal worked as intended.    :-(
[04:21] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: not full install I just need to create a live usb I can use to install two oses on a computer
[04:21] <Vivekananda> one is ubuntu the other win xp
[04:21] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: do i need to install pastebinit, did the paste i provided u with not help?
[04:21] <Vivekananda> also when I use it format a system how do I choose a system to install ?
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, The xp probably will not run that way for long, and I believe against the MS law, lol
[04:22] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: just saw that it might not work by pastebinit, do a manual paste of the output then
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> if xp runs at all
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, There is a W8 setup made top run from a usb.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> to*
[04:23] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy  is the output of sudo fdisk -l
[04:23] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: if I just tried to install two ubuntu how would I do it ?
[04:24] <Vivekananda> how would I choose which one to "try" or " install " ?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, ISO's not full installs right with all of this?
[04:24] <rannger643>  testing
[04:24] <rannger643>  testing
[04:24] <rannger643>  testing
[04:24] <FloodBot1> rannger643: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:24] <DasEi> rannger: pong
[04:25] <rannger> ?
[04:25] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: I dont know the difference but I am trying to create a live cd that can be used to install the os on a computer or
[04:25] <Vivekananda> try it out from the usb if need be
[04:25] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: did you see the output http://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy ?
[04:25] <Vivekananda> live usb*
[04:26] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin:  	This paste has been removed!  have another try...
[04:27] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/YncxBbSJ
[04:27] <Psil0Cybin> askuubntu says you can check if its encrypted using ls -A /home can u confirm
[04:27] <Psil0Cybin> if this works?
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, ISO would be for install, live is linux only, I use the multisystem app at pendrive linux for multiple iso's on a stick. XP is a whole other thing however, and really a waste of time to use anyway it is eol in less than 6 months, but it can be put on a usb for installs.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis_> I add iso files to my /boot/grml/  directory and the grml tools add entries to my grub menu to boot the iso files. ;) i can do a very fast reinstall that way.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> Vivek, you would have to have a XP with sp3 to even have it update
[04:29] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: this isn't the full output, but your swap is crypted, so I guess you drive WHD alrady... full output please ? (a clear cleans your terminal beforehand)
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> viva grml yeah, and grub iso boots
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, you would have to have a XP with sp3 to even have it update. sorry Vivek
[04:30] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: I like xp as it needs less resources and also less space
[04:30] <Vivekananda> win7 needs more ram and is bloated kind of
[04:30] <Vivekananda> so I dont want it
[04:30] <default> I hardly ever play dvds but recently bought one and can't seem to get it past the encryption..  using 12.04 LTS, long ago installed ubuntu-retricted-extras and libdvdread4..  ran that script to installs css2...   no luck .  rebooted..  no luck.   any ideas?
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, XP is a sieve for viri, rootkits and malware
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> and just about eol=end of life
[04:31] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: and you mean to say that win 7 is not ?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> way less for sure
[04:31] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[04:31] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: I dont care much about eols and I did not wish to change
[04:32] <Vivekananda> even ubuntu last lts but only when apps stopped working that I had to. Although I like the new ubuntu but it also needs more ram
[04:32] <DasEi> Vivekananda: EOF /w XP is April 2014 ....
[04:32]  * wilee-nilee notes that Vivekananda " did not wish to change"
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: here is the output
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/wMhthdJs
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> i cleared the screen and did sudo fdisk -l
[04:32] <Psil0Cybin> its the same result tho DasEi
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> nice helping you good luck.
[04:33] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: sure, did you scroll the terminal ? then ONLY swap is crypted,   rofl
[04:33] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: did you get the last part of that ?  I meant that reinstalling a new os for kicks is not ever my wish. I would rather use and old and tested one and use it for my work
[04:36] <Vivekananda> or should I go with win 7 64 bit ?
[04:36] <Vivekananda> I dont want to do it
[04:36] <default> I hardly ever play dvds but recently bought one and can't seem to get it past the encryption..  using 12.04 LTS, long ago installed ubuntu-retricted-extras and libdvdread4..  ran that script to installs css2...   no luck playing dvd .  rebooted..  no luck again.   any ideas?
[04:36] <Vivekananda> it has compatibility issues
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> default, try installing vlc
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> and using it
[04:37] <DasEi> Vivekananda: maybe ask such in #windows  ?
[04:38] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: any more questions ? another way : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder  or another, use a truecrypt container which automounts at startup
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: thats wierd u said only swap is encrypted
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> so would it state if my home is encrypted via sudo fdisk -l?
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> i am confused how only swap can be encrypted?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis_> default:  this is a just reelased dvd movie?
[04:42] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: if that IS the whole fdisk -l, that's the fact
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[04:42] <nerder> hello
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: so now i have a problem if my swap is encrypted but my home is not and i follow these directions
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/
[04:43] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: you can encrypt anything but /boot by the LUKS way
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do when it asks me to encrypt swap
[04:43] <Psil0Cybin> again
[04:43] <rick_deckard> greetings
[04:43] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine
[04:43] <nerder> i'm using terminator, i made my own layout, and when i launch terminator works fine, but whem i split the windows the profile that it use is the default one
[04:44] <nerder> how can i configure terminator for using my profile first?
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> what do u mean by this
 Psil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> whole disk e?
[04:44] <rick_deckard> how do I get rid of ubuntu one? I tried uninstalling it through the software center
[04:44] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  well looking here.. you define what profile to use in the layout settings
[04:44] <c__> how do i check the md5sum of iso?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis_> !md5sum | c__
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: so what do i do if my swap is encrypted but i want to encrypt my home directory and it says to encrypt my swap
[04:46] <Psil0Cybin> do i encrypt it again or no
[04:46] <default> dr willis: nope.  I have two cd's one I recently bought that was released a couple years ago, and another that I have had for about 10 years and always worked fine before.  But last time I played a dvd was back when medibuntu existed.  I only just learned tonight that it is no longer
[04:46] <rick_deckard> how do I uninstall ubuntu one?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> rick_deckard, just don't use it?  no need to uninstall if you don't set it up/activate it.
[04:46] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine
[04:46] <Dr_Willis_> default:  ive not needed medibintu to play dvd's in.. years ;)
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> fresh whole disk e?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis_> default:  i have encountered new dvd movies that have some sort of 'enhanced' protection that are often impossible to read in a pc or older dvd player. :( without some effort/extra software
[04:47] <rick_deckard> cfhowlett, you have a very good point. I am annoid at the cloud in the panel tho
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: i ran sudo fdisk -l on my other machine that was also encrypted home directory via the INSTALL GUI, and it states the same thing only Swap is encrypted
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> ...
[04:47] <rick_deckard> mocking me
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> but i encrypted that one using the migreating home folder method
[04:48] <rick_deckard> the lil ubuntu one cloud mocks me
[04:48] <cfhowlett> rick_deckard, best response to mockery it to ignore it.
[04:48] <roscogruen> i just got a pm from natti about going to a url.  what is up?
[04:48] <nerder> Dr_Willis_, i dnt get it sorry
[04:49] <default> <Dr_Willis_:  it has been years...  ;/
[04:49] <cfhowlett> roscogruen, ask natti
[04:49] <Hempathy> Hi guys I'm looking for display help, cool to ask questions here?
[04:49] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  never used the feature either. not sure what you mean really.. if you edit the default profile - it uses that one by default
[04:49] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: might it be that you used private folder but not lux ?
[04:49] <nerder> i setted up my profile, but there's no option for keep as default
[04:49] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, yes.  as
[04:50] <cfhowlett> *ask*
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: i used the GUI from the install
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> when i installed the system
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> it asked me if i wnated to encrypt the home directory and i selected yes
[04:50] <nerder> Dr_Willis_, there's no way for change the default one?
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> but ur telling me that only my swap is encrypted.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  edit the one named default, or delete it.
[04:50] <Hempathy> Sweet, started using dual monitor with HDMI & 13.04 shuts down after ~5 mins or so, any ideas?
[04:50] <nerder> i mean which one is the default?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  the one named 'default'
[04:51] <Dr_Willis_> which is the only one you cant delete. ;)
[04:51] <nerder> Dr_Willis_, ok got it ;) some confusion with "dafault" as a word and "default" as a name of profile ;)
[04:51] <nerder> thx ;)
[04:51] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  now i have NO idea what 'layouts' do in terminator.
[04:52] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis_: do i type "!md5sum"
[04:52] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  im guessing theres some terminator command line options to use difent layouts and profiles also
[04:52] <roscogruen> the commands in the links the bot gave me ain't workin'
[04:52] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  you READ what the bot said when we activated the !md5sum bot trigger
[04:52] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  what commands did you use exactly and whats the esact error message
[04:53] <roscogruen> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ cd Downloads
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> DasEi: i think ur wrong, i think its encrypted not just the swap. I ran a live CD and tried to access my home folder and it said Access Denied. but every other folder i can access
[04:54] <Hempathy> Am I ok repeating my question, don't wanna spam, but had no luck finding an answer?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  normal permissions will give you denied.
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> anyone else know any other methods i can use to confirm my ome directory is infact encrypted
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  access it as root.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis_> and look at the files in the directory
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> so root into it?
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|Hempathy,   understood and thank you.
[04:54] <roscogruen> k.  that was for winders
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> like sudo cd folder?
[04:55] <roscogruen> no it wasn't.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  no.... sudo ls -l /path/to./the/dir
[04:55] <DasEi> Psil0Cybin: that also let's you choose on some discs; did you run the live as root ? I think it is all said and will only get more confusing now...
[04:55] <Hempathy> Thanks guys :)
[04:55] <DasEi> Hempathy: all half hour or so, sure
[04:56] <DasEi> Hempathy: sometimes re-phrasing helps, too
[04:56] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis_: i don't understand what is in the commands (ex:  downloads).  the file is "ubuntu.iso" on my desktop.  terminal is in home directory
[04:57] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  you could make a launcher for terminator that runs 'terminator --profile=yourprofile'  or --layout=yourlayout   also
[04:57] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  md5sum /path/to/the/ubuntu.iso
[04:57] <Hempathy> Chur, I don't use irc often enough to be aware of the etiquette
[04:57] <Dr_Willis_> and your desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop/
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  so     md5sum /home/yourusername/Desktop/ubuntu.iso
[04:58] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis_: so i think it worked
[04:58] <Psil0Cybin> i got this
[04:58] <Psil0Cybin> http://pastebin.com/fD8MAp5y
[04:58] <nerder> Dr_Willis_, yes is true but when you split the terminal in 2 the second one the you open in this way use "default" as profile and not yours, anywy i edit default a s mine and i fix it ;)
[04:58] <keith_> Greetings again solvers. Tonight we have the case of the disappearing desktop. Instead of a nice screen display and icons text in a font and color that's easy to read, I get a dark purple gradient and default black icon text. Just to make it interesting, sometimes a reboot brings things back the way they should be. Any thoughts?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis_> nerder:  you can change profiles on the fly  i noticed.
[04:59] <Psil0Cybin> does this make sense Dr_Willis_ http://pastebin.com/fD8MAp5y does this infact mean i cannot access it as root?
[04:59] <keith_> Should mention - running UbuntuStudio 12.04 in non-session mode
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  looks encrypted to me
[05:00] <Dr_Willis_> read that readme file?
[05:00] <DasEi> Hempathy: never mind, people will tell you if you break it or-as you do-just ask :)
[05:00] <roscogruen> Where do i get the sm5sum to verify?
[05:01] <roscogruen> md5sum ^
[05:01] <DasEi> !md5 | roscogruen
[05:01] <Dr_Willis_> the ftp site you get the iso file from should have a md5sum file with all the sums for all the isos
[05:01] <cfhowlett> roscogruen, read this link ^^^
[05:01] <DasEi>  roscogruen ah, where ? you mean for the installer iso ?
[05:02] <roscogruen> where do i find the origjnal?  i located the one on my desktop.  now need to check it
[05:02] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  the original what?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis_> !downloads
[05:02] <Dr_Willis_> !download
[05:03] <DasEi> roscogruen: it's provided by the d/l site, and then you a : md5sum blah.iso, get a string back and compare with the one from the site
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/MD5SUMS
[05:03] <DasEi> you do* a
[05:03] <Dr_Willis_> md5sum has some option to read the sum from the file also
[05:03] <DasEi> :)
[05:03] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis_: i got 12.04.03 desktop
[05:04] <Dr_Willis_> roscogruen:  so look for the md5sum file at the url above..
[05:04] <Dr_Willis_> under whatever 12.04 diretory exists
[05:04]  * DasEi leans back
[05:05] <Dr_Willis_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.3/MD5SUMS
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[05:06] <Hempathy> DasEi:  thanks again, although not sure I'm using correct irc comands either :)
[05:06] <Hempathy> Dr_Willis: Isn't that a console cheat for GTA 5
[05:07] <roscogruen> Dr_Willis_: It matches.  Thank you
[05:07] <DasEi> Hempathy: pm you ?
[05:07] <Psil0Cybin> Dr_Willis_: you said for me to read the txt what does it say it says in caps this directory has been unmounted to protect your data, from the graphical desktop click on Access your private data or run the command line ecryptfs-mount-private
[05:07] <DasEi> !pm
[05:08] <Psil0Cybin> so looks good to me
[05:08] <Psil0Cybin> i would run the command but i dont want to cause problems
[05:08] <Psil0Cybin> wtih that ome directory when i take out the live cd.
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> ill run a live cd on my other laptop and run the same command to verify
[05:10] <Psil0Cybin> and ill also post on the forums i want to make sure just feel wierd that fdisk -l would say only my swap is encrypted
[05:15] <Dr_Willis_> the FILES IN your home directory are encrypted Psil0Cybin . not the partion where home is at.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis_> Psil0Cybin:  the swap partition is encrypted..  since there is no 'files' there
[05:16] <Dr_Willis_> you got some .encrypted-home-files   file in your home is how i think it works.. use ls -al to see
[05:16] <arquebus> Ive installed ubuntu and I cant get the wireless to stay connected, anyone know how I go about fixing this?
[05:18] <SPEEDWAVE> arquebus, go to device manager
[05:18] <arquebus> SPEEDWAVE: where would I find that
[05:19] <SPEEDWAVE> arquebus, at system setting,then additional drivers
[05:20] <arquebus> SPEEDWAVE: ok, Im in system settings, I see Device Actions, Network Settings, but no Additional Drivers
[05:21] <Dr_Willis_> or run -->  software-properties-gtk    the last tab.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis_> arquebus:  wht ubuntu relase was this?
[05:21] <arquebus> Dr_Willis_: Im actually using Kubuntu, but no one in #kubuntu is answering
[05:23] <john____1> ±
[05:23] <john____1> ²
[05:24] <Dr_Willis_> arquebus:  what version
[05:24] <arquebus> Dr_Willis_: 13, the current
[05:24] <Dr_Willis_> arquebus:  13.10 is the current latest relese.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis_> or run -->  software-properties-qt   -> the last tab
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_> for kde
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_> oops its
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_> or run -->  software-properties-kde
[05:25] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[05:25] <arquebus> Dr_Willis_: ok, thats what I installed, the install went fine, the wireless connected for a moment, then disconnected, and I cant get it to reconnect at all]
[05:26] <Dr_Willis_> arquebus:  no idea. I only buy wifi dongles i know work with no isues out of the box. ;) they dont evenneed addational drivers
[05:27] <xmetal> last time i had wifi "issues" (i just needed proper drivers) and ubuntu was 9.10
[05:27] <arquebus> Dr_Willis_: just curious, do you use one of those USB wireless? if so, what brand?
[05:27] <xmetal> since then a few versions i have tried work "out of the box"
[05:27] <Dr_Willis_> its all about the chipset. ;)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis_> i got about 4 differnt dongles that work - just plug and play
[05:28] <Dr_Willis_> ranging in price from a Huge $17.99 to $9.99   ;)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis_> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]
[05:29] <Dr_Willis_> was $10  i think
[05:30] <arquebus> Dr_Willis_: ok, thx
[05:35] <BlackFlag> Good evening, gentlemen!
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> BlackFlag: hi mate
[05:36] <BlackFlag> How do I know the version of of my wireless card driver?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> BlackFlag: lshw -C network
[05:37] <Dr_Willis_> it would depend on your kernel version i imagine
[05:37] <BlackFlag> kernel version is 3.2.6
[05:39] <BlackFlag> lshw shows me the number of kernel version
[05:39] <Dr_Willis_> sudo lshw -C network
[05:39] <Dr_Willis_> shows 'version : 06'  here ;) for one of my cards.. but i think thats the card version. not the module version
[05:40] <BlackFlag> "driverversion=3.2.6" =/
[05:41] <Hempathy_> Ubuntu shuts down on me using dual monitors.... help me irc you're my only hope!
[05:41] <BlackFlag> my card is a RTL 8191se
[05:41] <Dr_Willis_> sudo lshw -C network | grep driver
[05:41] <Dr_Willis_> there we go. ;) driver version = 3.11.0-12  ;) the same as my kernel
[05:42] <Hempathy_> that was my last me quitting due to unrequested shutdown!
[05:42] <Dr_Willis_> Hempathy_:  whats your video chipset and driver?
[05:43] <DasEi> ok, backon here, background
[05:43] <BlackFlag> I saw in the site that the latest driver has a different number: 2021.0.0203.2012
[05:44] <lacrem> hi there
[05:44] <Hempathy_> Dr_Willis:  help me answer your question :)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis_> Hempathy_:  lspci
[05:45] <Hempathy_> I appreciate your time and help on this
[05:45] <Dr_Willis_> i use nvidia here. dual monitors work fine - plug in 2nd monitor.. it turns on.. and works. ;P
[05:46] <Hempathy_> I so wish I'd gone nvidia and i7
[05:46] <BlackFlag> lspci don't shows me the driver
[05:46] <Hempathy_> but I've an AMD
[05:46] <lacrem> I have a small problem with Ubuntu, someone would like to help me?
[05:46] <lacrem> it's UEFI related...
[05:46] <Dr_Willis_> Hempathy_:  its not one of those dual gpu setups is it?
[05:47] <DasEi> Hempathy_: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && sudo hwinfo > hwinfo.txt && gedit hwinfo (for a detailed listing)
[05:47] <DasEi> !ask | lacrem
[05:49] <DasEi> lacrem ,more details ?
[05:49] <Hempathy_> Package 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_> !info hwinfo
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_> !find hwinfo
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm,,,
[05:50] <DasEi> ic, unity, no hwinfo, gnnnh
[05:50] <Dr_Willis_> i got hwinfo here
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_> not sure what package it came from
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_> !find /usr/sbin/hwinfo
[05:51] <Dr_Willis_> heh
[05:52] <Dr_Willis_> time to install apt-file ! ;P
[05:52] <lacrem> ok, I've been trying to install Ubuntu (and other distros) in my laptop (it's a Medion Erazer X6823, a gaming laptop made from an MSI GT60 base, I guess motherboard, graphic card and everything still comes from MSi). The point is the only distro is booting the live pendrive in this laptop is ArchLinux, Ubuntu starts booting, then stays in a blank screen, I can see the pendrive light like is reading but after 4 seconds stops. I
[05:52] <lacrem>  have tried everything, -nomodeset -lpsci believing it was by the nvidia optimus but is not because if I boot in legacy mode is working. Now I have installed Manjaro in legacy mode, because with Ubuntu after installing it in legacy mode it was not shutting down properly the computer, after shutting down and switching on again, or after rebooting the laptop was entering the bios setup ... I've search in ubuntu forums, I found s
[05:52] <lacrem> omeone with the same problem but was not solved....
[05:52] <zexcriz> is their any web based interface to manage kvm virtual machines ?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis_> lacrem:  so legacy mode worked.. it just dident power down  when you shutdown?
[05:53] <DasEi> Hempathy_: sudo apt-get install lshw-gtk && sudo lshw-gtk
[05:53] <DasEi> !info lshw-gtk
[05:54] <lacrem> yeah, it powers down but I don't know why when I start again the computer goes into the bios setup. It doesn't happens with Manjaro. Anyway I would like to install it in UEFI mode cos I need to have dual boot with W8. I got Arch working, but I like Unity (strange uh? haha)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_> !info hwinfo
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_> now thats weird.. i got hwinfo here in saucy
[05:55] <Dr_Willis_> hwinfo - Hardware identification system
[05:56] <genii> Dr_Willis_: Here too
[05:57] <Dr_Willis_> lshw-gtk looks handy ;)
[05:58] <DasEi> Dr_willis:  use the show option to see the repo, I'm not on saucy now
[05:58] <DasEi> :)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis_> trying to use apt-file to find the package it came from. but i cant rember the syntax ;)
[05:58] <DasEi> some might have some gnomee-devicemanager, idk, fewothers around.. nvm
[06:00] <genii> Dr_Willis_: packages.ubuntu.com reports that for Raring it was package hwinfo. Also doesn't list it for Saucy though
[06:00] <Hempathy_> so now I have lshw... what can I share?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_> this is a upgraded system.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_> so perhaps its dead jim. ;)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis_> i forget why we wanted hwinfo/lshw now ;P
[06:01] <genii> !info hwinfo raring
[06:01] <Hempathy_> hahha somthing about my graphics device  driver
[06:01] <DasEi> Hempathy_, dr_willis : which graphic card on the dualhead HDMI ?
[06:02] <DasEi> genii: raring, great
[06:02] <genii> !info lshw saucy
[06:02] <genii> Hm.
[06:03] <DasEi> dr_williscould you do a apt-cache show hwinfo to see the repo ?
[06:03] <DasEi> dr_willis : could you do a apt-cache show hwinfo to see the repo ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> apt-cache show hwinfo  | pastebinit
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310468/
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> i dont really see a repo listed
[06:05] <genii> DasEi: apt-cache search hwinfo  ..Results on Saucy: backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system    ..apt-cache policy hwinfo:  Candidate: (none)
[06:05] <DasEi> tschäh, looks like dead Jim then
[06:05] <Dr_Willis_> this is a 13.10 system ive upgraded like.. twice ;) i think
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_> Oh The Huge-Manatee!
[06:06] <Gallomimia_> argh. i've forgotten the new release name again ><
[06:06] <Hempathy_> Chur, isnatlling pastebinit
[06:06] <DasEi> Gallomimia_: lsb_release -a
[06:07] <Gallomimia_> oh there it is in my backscroll...
[06:07]  * genii sips and ponders Tahrs
[06:07] <Gallomimia_> dasei thanks for the tip tho
[06:07] <Gallomimia_> percentage of sites updated with installers pertaining to new release encountered so far: zero.
[06:10] <Oeslian> Hey has anyone here been able to get nvidia drivers working on laptops that have hybrid graphics?  I have integrated intel cpu graphics and an nvidia 480 in my HP laptop, I need to get nvidia drivers working but am not sure how
[06:15] <DasEi> !paste | Hempathy_
[06:16] <DasEi> !nvidia | Oeslian
[06:16] <DasEi> Oeslian: I gtg soon, but Dr_willis might have some help
[06:29] <Dr_Willis_> Oeslian:  look at the 'bumblebee' wiki pages/docs/guides and info on askubuntu.com and otehr sites. its needed for dual gpu machines
[06:29] <Mace268> is it risky to do a version upgrade?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis_> Mace268:  lots of people upgrade from one relase to the next with no issues..
[06:30] <Atrumx> no
[06:30] <Dr_Willis_> some people have lots of issues. ;)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis_> but this is a support channel. so we tend to see people that have issues more then people who have no issues. ;)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis_> I upgraded with no hassles.
[06:30] <Mace268> good point xD
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis_, most upgrade without issue - but when you DO get issues ... thus the clean install over upgrade recommendation
[06:31] <Mace268> to 13.10?
[06:31] <xmetal> true
[06:31] <Dr_Willis_> its often faster to clean install then upgrade several releases.
[06:32] <Oeslian> Dr_Willis_ thanks for the tips, i hav
[06:32] <Dr_Willis_> and if you got a lot of ppa's and other stuff enabled.. that can cause issues
[06:32] <xmetal> i dont upgrade "every release" but every few releases and i choose to do a clean install of the new versipn
[06:32] <Oeslian> i have been googling but have not found much info*
[06:32] <xmetal> and then upgrade the packages i want
[06:32] <xmetal> update/upgrade ... whatever
[06:32] <Dr_Willis_> I tend to beta test stuff.. so i install a lot of crud i never use for testing..
[06:33] <Dr_Willis_> so after i play with it a while. i tend to do a clean install a few weeks after release for each reelase
[06:33] <Mace268> thanks for the infos :)
[06:33] <TeeGhost> how to display Chinese in tty?
[06:35] <zexcriz> i want to open remotely my router configuration page in the terminal is that possible using text based browser if yes than which  ?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis_> zexcriz:  ive used lynx or links to get to my router web config page befor.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis_> it may or may not work well - depends on the router
[06:35] <TeeGhost> zexcriz: a text browser?lynx or w3m
[06:36] <deego> zexcriz: heh, I even "expected" it.  :)
[06:37] <zexcriz> cool :D
[06:38] <TeeGhost> w3m can display images
[06:38] <Dr_Willis_> i think links. or links2 can also.  but its been ages ;)
[06:39] <niel> so should I use java sun or java 7 for minecraft servers?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis_> niel:  whatever the minecraft docs reccomend. ;)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis_> and its no longer sun java.
[06:39] <niel> well everyone says something different
[06:40] <Dr_Willis_> flip a coin. and try one i guess
[06:40] <Dr_Willis_> !java
[06:40] <niel> and screw minecraft docs they are still deving on java 5
[06:40] <Dr_Willis_> the doc writers are to busy running from creepers
[06:41] <niel> lol
[06:41] <niel> and its not regular minecraft its heavily modded
[06:41] <Dr_Willis_> ive never played minecraft.  - did play Terreria on steam for a while. ;)
[06:41] <niel> you should
[06:41] <niel> deb taking a long time to install
[06:41] <Dr_Willis_> ill pass. ;) i got enough time wasters
[06:42] <niel> tried 10 different os's today
[06:42] <niel> only like 3 actually work with this graphics card
[06:42] <Dr_Willis_> hmm... steam is not working for me on 13.10
[06:42] <niel> works for me
[06:42] <niel> what flavour?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis_> 'could not connect to the steam network .. this could be die to a prolem with the internet connection or the steam network....'
[06:43] <Dr_Willis_> but its on this pc. ;)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis_> so internetz is working
[06:44] <Mace268> upgrade in progress, wish me luck xD
[06:44] <niel> Dr_Willis_, derp firewall?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis_> niel:  none here that  i have enabled.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis_> router is fairly open also
[06:45] <niel> weird
[06:45] <niel> regular ubuntu?
[06:45] <niel> works great on xubuntu
[06:46] <jack> just have the router forward _all_ ports
[06:46] <Dr_Willis_> sudo iptables --flush       so got no rules.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis_> same router as the windows box uses for its steam
[06:46] <jmgk> rhii
[06:46] <niel> steam blocked you ;)
[06:46] <jmgk> hii
[06:47] <Dr_Willis_> havent been on steam in months
[06:47] <niel> go try on the winderps box
[06:47] <Dr_Willis_> if i get steam started..  i proberly will start playing games.. and not be back for days. ;P
[06:48] <niel> mabye its broken on purpose
[06:48] <browndawg> What's a nice way of having apt-get install packages listed in a text file (one package per line)
[06:48] <niel> for the greater good
[06:48] <niel> browndawg, apt-get update the copy paste
[06:49] <Dr_Willis_> browndawg:  i just make a script that has lines of 'sudo apt-get install packagename package3name and so forth....
[06:49] <browndawg> :-|
[06:49] <Dr_Willis_> otherwise you have to use a script to read/install each package.
[06:49] <niel> debian is cool should run the server much faster
[06:49] <browndawg> Yeah that's what I have too right now, Dr_Willis_, but I thought it would be neat to be able to read it from a separate file to avoid cluttering the install script
[06:49] <niel> browndawg, and I want to be rich
[06:50] <Dr_Willis_> browndawg:  xargs  can do it i imagine
[06:50] <Dr_Willis_> cat file | xargs <some options>
[06:50] <browndawg> yes but xargs is going to spawn a new apt-get proc
[06:50] <browndawg> for every arg
[06:50] <browndawg> can I make it so it's done in one go?
[06:50] <energizer> Hi my sound settings are not sticking. In particular "play sound through".
[06:50] <browndawg> apt-get install <all packages read from file>
[06:50] <Dr_Willis_> if you got 100000 lines of packages.. that may cause issues
[06:51] <niel> naaa
[06:51] <browndawg> less than a 100
[06:51] <niel> ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis_> if theres just 10 lines.. you can merge them all onto one line
[06:51] <browndawg> but 100 packages clutter up the install script
[06:51] <Dr_Willis_> the bash buffer has a command line size limit
[06:51] <niel> I must stay awake to get this running!
[06:51] <niel> my eyes
[06:51] <browndawg> and my current vim setup hates more than 80 chars on a line :D
[06:51] <browndawg> so no neat way to do it I suppose. Thanks anyway.
[06:52] <browndawg> mmkay
[06:52] <Dr_Willis_> you can use that bash feature of line continuation
[06:53] <Dr_Willis_>  i forget the exact syntax.  \  at the end of a line or somthing
[06:53] <browndawg> yeah
[06:53] <Dr_Willis_> sudo apt-get install package1 \
[06:53] <Dr_Willis_> package2 \
[06:53] <Dr_Willis_> or somthing like that.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis_> that Might work.
[06:53] <browndawg> or just group packages in the installer by their purpose. Build stuff, games, UI
[06:54] <jean_> good morning, is someone good in coding in python?
[06:55] <Somefellow> Does anybody know what this means, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:55] <Dr_Willis_> Somefellow:  do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to   have them upgrade
[06:56] <t38> browndawg: how about   sudo apt-get install $(cat files_to_install.txt) will work
[06:56] <Somefellow> I think aptitude fixed it
[06:56] <browndawg> t38: EXACTLY what I was looking for
[06:56] <browndawg> t38: Thanks man.
[06:57] <t38> np
[06:57] <jean_> someone to explain to me the logic behind def fct(s) : return s and 1 + fct(s[1:]) or 0
[06:57] <jean_> in python
[06:57] <Somefellow> Nah it didnt
[06:58] <Somefellow> Dr_Willis_, That command gives me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:58] <browndawg> t38: It doesn't work in zsh for some reason. The array gets filled with $(x\ny\nz)
[06:58] <Dr_Willis_> Somefellow:  so whts the exact command that has teh issue
[06:58] <energizer> Any thoughts on how to get my sound settings to stick?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis_> energizer:  alsactrl store/restore perhaps
[06:59] <Somefellow> Dr_Willis_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310620/
[07:01] <t38> browndawg: I think you can do this in synaptic too.. File - Read Markings  and open your text file
[07:01] <Dr_Willis_> Somefellow:  whens the last time you did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[07:02] <Somefellow> Hm I'm pretty sure I did it today, I'll go through the usual update upgrade stuff and let you know what happens
[07:02] <browndawg> t38: Want to do it without user interference, trying to load it into an array like you said
[07:02] <browndawg> or screw it
[07:02] <unbuntu> Hello all
[07:04] <Somefellow> Dr_Willis_, No change
[07:04] <Dr_Willis_> Somefellow:  somthings weird. libc is a rather critical library
[07:05] <Somefellow> Any idea what I should do?
[07:05] <t38> browndawg: how about instead of $(cat files_to_install.txt) Use  $(< files_to_install.txt)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis_> but its not the libc thats the stoppage.. its the  g++ version that its having issues with it seems
[07:05] <Dr_Willis_> sudo apt-get -f    perhaps? thats the 'hope it works fix' i often see
[07:06] <Dr_Willis_> build-essential is a meta package. it pulls in other packages.  see ifyou can install libc6-dev by itself. same for g++
[07:06] <Dr_Willis_> !info libc-dev
[07:06] <Dr_Willis_> hmmm
[07:07] <Dr_Willis_> !info libc6-dev
[07:08] <Somefellow> Dr_Willis_,  libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.5) but 2.15-0ubuntu10+openvz0 is to be installed
[07:08] <Dr_Willis_> openvz.. hmm. this is a normal ubuntu install? or on some virtual thing or vps?
[07:09] <Somefellow> It's a VPS yes
[07:09] <Somefellow> Should I reinstall the OS and see what happens?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis_> ive seen vps's twiddle with the packages - but no idea what would be best to try.
[07:10] <Somefellow> For a 1GB Ram server, would 32 bit or 64 bit be better?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis_> im not sure it matters on a vps.
[07:11] <Somefellow> I've just always defaulted to 64x
[07:11] <Dr_Willis_> i always use 64bit  on my hardware.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[07:11] <energizer> Dr_Willis "store" to save and "restore" to recall? then set a script to run "restore" every time?
[07:11] <Somefellow> x86 is for weakings?
[07:11] <anoop> How to notify users crossing filesize limits specified by /et/security/limits.conf?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis_> energizer:  i recall the askubuntu.com site had details on doing it. ive never had to mess with the sound that way.
[07:13] <dfgas_> anyone deal with xbmc and using hard drives for you videos and such? i am trying to use a 2tb hard drive, connected to my router or straight up to ouya and i get 10mb transfer speeds. however my 8gb flash drive is super fast.  i am using samba
[07:13] <energizer> Dr_Willis_: aite thanks
[07:13] <dfgas_> not 10mb, but 1.0
[07:14] <anoop> edit /etc/security/limits.conf?
[07:14] <Somefellow> Dammit, fresh Ubuntu 12.04 still throws it
[07:16] <dfgas_> ughhhh wrong button, lol
[07:18] <Dr_Willis_> dfgas_:  xbmc can access upnp servers on the  server also. so samba is not required
[07:18] <dfgas_> Dr_Willis_, but i want to put videos on it
[07:18] <Dr_Willis_> could be the network is the bottle neck, or it might in fact be samba.
[07:18] <dfgas_> and stream over my network
[07:19] <Somefellow> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:19] <Somefellow> Sigh...
[07:19] <tnk1> Can anyone help me get the twinview to work with the nvidia settings/ i updated to 12.10, and now the dual head setup I had isn't working - just showing duplicate screens in both
[07:19] <dfgas_> hmmm
[07:19] <Dr_Willis_> dfgas_:  err... what do you think a upnp server does.. ;)
[07:19] <Dr_Willis_> !natty
[07:19] <Dr_Willis_> !eol | Somefellow
[07:19] <Dr_Willis_> but that is weird.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis_> looking at the server here Somefellow .. lets see
[07:19] <dfgas_> Dr_Willis_, well problem is that even connected straight to my ouya and i get poor transfer speeds on my 2tb
[07:20] <Somefellow> Ok, so 12.04 is broken for me, and 11.04 doesnt work anymore
[07:20] <Somefellow> I'm enjoying today
[07:20] <Dr_Willis_> Somefellow:  its 404 here also
[07:20] <dfgas_> Dr_Willis_, but my 8gb gets awesome speeds
[07:20] <paulus68_1> Somefellow: you can enlighten your day by upgrading to th enew version :)
[07:20] <Dr_Willis_> theres no natty at all on that server Somefellow
[07:21] <Somefellow> Host only offers 12.04 and 11.04 D:
[07:21] <Dr_Willis_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[07:21] <Dr_Willis_> wonder if theres an EOL-EOL server. ;)
[07:21] <Dr_Willis_> or some other archive.ubuntu.com servers
[07:21]  * Somefellow sighs
[07:21] <Somefellow> Maybe its time to give CentOS another go
[07:21] <Somefellow> After 3 years...
[07:21] <Dr_Willis_> weird that lucid is there.. but not natty
[07:28] <tnk1> Can anyone help me get the twinview to work with the nvidia settings/ i updated to 12.10, and now the dual head setup I had isn't working - just showing duplicate screens in both
[07:29] <Dr_Willis_> tnk1:  does nvidia-settings show you are using the nvidia drivers?
[07:29] <tnk1> 304.88
[07:29] <tnk1> Dr_Willis_: 304.88
[07:30] <tnk1> nv-control 1.28
[07:30] <Dr_Willis_> so the x server dispkay config in the ncidia-settings tool dosent show both monitors?
[07:30] <tnk1> it shows both. i select twinview and position left of primary screen. but the second (left) screen still shows the same as the primary (right) screen.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis_> tnk1:  you saved the settingg to the xorg.conf file?
[07:31] <tnk1>  it was working fine before I did the last dist-upgrade an hour ago
[07:31] <tnk1> it blacks and refreshes the screen, and it's nothing different, so why would i save a dysfunctional setting to xorg conf?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis_> because you may need to restart the x server to get it to read and use the setting
[07:32] <Dr_Willis_> if it fails.. you remove the xorg.conf
[07:32] <Dr_Willis_> ive rarely had 'apply' work properly. ive always saved to xorg.conf and restarted the x server
[07:33] <oeslian> Hey Dr_Willis_ I want to thank you for the tip to look up bumblebee it worked great
[07:33] <Dr_Willis_> if i dont have an xorg.conf and just plug in the 2nd monitor.. it gets auto-enabled here for me most of the time
[07:33] <Dr_Willis_> oeslian:  you are lucky it works ;) its very very much a work in progress.
[07:35] <tnk1> Dr_Willis_: what's the cli command to restart X?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis_> tnk1:  sudo service lightdm restart         from a console is what i normally use
[07:35] <oeslian> The main thing i wanted was to be able to work on my game, it compiled and ran great
[07:35] <tnk1> I'm not sure I'm using lightdm
[07:35] <Dr_Willis_> then use whatever dm you got. ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis_> lightdm is the default for ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu-gnome...
[07:36] <Dr_Willis_> guess he was using lightdm...
[07:36] <Dr_Willis_> ;P
[07:37] <oeslian> haha
[07:37] <oeslian> I will stick around here see if I can help anyone else I guess
[07:38] <Dr_Willis_> bb in a bit.
[07:47] <Psil0Cybin> hey does anyone know how i can get a transparent menu fro the right click on xubuntu
[07:47] <Psil0Cybin> the right click menu
[07:48] <nullbyte_> why nouveau fails on ubunutu 13.10 it just works fine X and console i have set up a vide mode with video=1024x768@32 and console works OK, but after using the computer all fails console is not in full screen and X can't show nothing?!?
[07:49] <nullbyte_> like...
[07:49] <TeeGhost> how to display Chinese(utf8) in ubuntu tty?
[07:56] <ddaaaa> How can I set upload limit in Transmission?
[07:56] <helmut_> hi
[08:03] <Confused666> ,grty60,21
[08:05] <dw-> my keyboard has a couple keys that don't show up in xev... how do i use them?
[08:08] <dw-> nvm.. googling found something
[08:11] <Snyper> You guys have any idea how I can create a bootable windows 7 usb using ubuntu??
[08:13] <Snyper> anyone?
[08:13] <bela> Hy!
[08:13] <bela> can somebady help me
[08:14] <bela> ?
[08:15] <bela> ?
[08:16] <bela> where can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?
[08:17] <bela> where can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?
[08:18] <bela> where can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?
[08:18] <bela> f this ubuntu i go to windows
[08:18] <nicklas_> What operating system are you running bela?
[08:19] <bela> olee
[08:19] <bela> ubuntu 13.10
[08:19] <Psil0Cybin> anyone use xubuntu i got a question everyones afk on ubuntu
[08:19] <bela> i think my video card is not properly instaled
[08:19] <Snyper> Okkkk
[08:20] <bela> on the resolution i get 800 maxim
[08:20] <Snyper> So, anyone knows of a software for ubuntu that can allow mo to create a bootable windows 7 on a usb?
[08:20] <bela> i am new sory
[08:21] <esing> Hi
[08:21] <bela> hy
[08:21] <abhi_> hey i need too knw hw to connect wifi over ubuntu
[08:21] <abhi_> 12.04
[08:21] <Snyper> okk i guess everyone's dead
[08:22] <nicklas_> nearly everyone
[08:22] <Snyper> xD
[08:22] <FreshPer> ....
[08:22] <xxx__> Hello all. I would like to ask you for help. I have a laptop Asus X550V(i5-3230, 4gb RAM, Nvidia 740M + Intel HD4000). I installed Ubuntu 13.10 alongisde Win8(preinstalled) and both systems are running without problems. However, I have problem with second graphic card(Nvidia 740M), as Ubuntu doesn't recognize it. I installed bumblebee with this tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation, but I still get error "Cannot acce
[08:22] <xxx__> I tried to do this: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected. you need to edit the /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia (or /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau if using the noveau driver) and specify the correct BusID by following the instructions therein.  but with lspci / VGA i get only info about Intel 4000, but no Nvidia.When I type only lspci, I get the line for Nvidia 740M,but after I edit the config f
[08:22] <nicklas_> at any rate im having a really shitty connection at the moment
[08:23] <bela> so nick can y help me
[08:23] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys a quick question with xubuntu : i found a problem when change the opicity setting in windows manager for the popup windowsnothing changes, i want to make my right click menu transparent all other windows are transparent but that one thing
[08:23] <Snyper> ok
[08:23] <esing> I switched to the proprietary ati graphic card drivers (fglrx) because with the radeon driver I have vertical tearings when playing videos. With flgrx the tearing is gone and the overall graphic looks better, but now I get occasionally segfaults when I maximize a window with a shortcut to the right or left side of the screen
[08:23] <Snyper>  /quit now
[08:23] <FreshPer> I have to say that this problem is one of the difficulties I met some mouth before...
[08:23] <esing> What do you recommend me to do
[08:23] <abhi_> pls help hw to configure my wifi pls
[08:24] <nicklas_> you guys having problems can always try "askubuntu.com"
[08:24] <nicklas_> http://askubuntu.com/
[08:25] <FreshPer> Not good at English....My lord...
[08:25] <abhi_> hey pls give me answers hw to configure mt wifi
[08:26] <abhi_> my wifi
[08:26] <nicklas_> what wifi card do you have?
[08:26] <abhi_> ralink
[08:26] <nicklas_> model?
[08:26] <abhi_> rt3290
[08:26] <nicklas_> ok wait i'll go search a little
[08:27] <abhi_> ok thankuu
[08:27] <abhi_> my laptop is HP PRO BOOK
[08:28] <abhi_> HP PRO BOOK 4440s
[08:28] <nicklas_> hey abhi, try this link, http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working
[08:28] <nicklas_> i do not know about your problem but this seems to work for some
[08:29] <nb-ben> is this channel also for ubuntu for phones?
[08:29] <bela> i dont have my video card properly instaled
[08:29] <abhi_> BUT NICK i have doubts in tht tooo
[08:30] <nicklas_> what video card do you have bela?
[08:30] <bela> where can i see what is not instaled
[08:30] <bela> asus eax550hm512
[08:30] <bela> ist old
[08:31] <nicklas_> hey bela try this, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/jockey-gtk/
[08:32] <bela>  but if i have other softweres that are not instaled
[08:32] <bela> where can i see them
[08:32] <bela> like in my computer
[08:32] <abhi_> hey nick i need to chat u in some other way pls
[08:32] <leif_> hey when is next lts version of ubuntu
[08:33] <bela> when you go to coputer management
[08:33] <nicklas_> i think the additional drivers will let you see what is missing and install it bela
[08:34] <dw-> leif_: "This version is scheduled for release on 17 April 2014" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[08:34] <leif_> cool thanks
[08:34] <bela> but whay dosent my videocard to
[08:34] <bela> istal
[08:35] <bela> ok and i have a program four funiture that i have used whith windows
[08:35] <nicklas_> i do not know. i've had similar problems with ubuntu 11.04
[08:35] <bela> i tryed to instaled and it dident worked
[08:35] <bela> sory my english not the best
[08:36] <xmetal> thats why they are labeled x.04 (April) or x.10 (October)
[08:36] <xmetal> as in the # of the month of the year
[08:36] <bela> ith ok that my resulution can not be more then 800x600?
[08:36] <bela> i dont like it i have big icons
[08:38] <esing> How can I see which catalyst version ubuntu's package fglx uses?
[08:38] <bela> nick sory
[08:38] <bela> what do i download 4 there
[08:38] <bela> i have already instaled ubuntu
[08:38] <esing> I checked http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/fglrx but I don't see any info about it there
[08:38] <Confused666> 33
[08:39] <bela> i have opened a chat room but  y are not there
[08:39] <bela> can y help me whit 2 tinks 4 now
[08:39] <nicklas_> hey bela, your video card is probably based on an AMD/ATI chip, in that case you could see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:40] <bela> is there a program that runs windows softwers
[08:40] <dw-> bela: i googled the asus model you mentioned and it said it uses ati radeon x550
[08:40] <bela> ty ty
[08:40] <dw-> bela: http://google.com/search?q=ATI+Radeon+X550+ubuntu
[08:40] <dw-> maybe
[08:40] <nicklas_> yes there are programs to run windows software in ubuntu, search for Wine in the software center
[08:41] <bela> olee
[08:41] <bela> ty all
[08:41] <bela> i fount this app on youtube
[08:42] <bela> can you send me a link or youtube movie where can i learn more abiut ubuntu
[08:42] <nicklas_> ok wait,
[08:42] <bela> ty
[08:43] <abhi_> hey nick pls help abt my wifi condition i wnt get internet other wise do u hav any video
[08:43] <esing> Should I install the ati driver from ati's website with buildpkg? sh amd-catalyst-13.11-beta6-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy
[08:44] <nicklas_> hey bela i have a youtube link you kight like :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVQoshMLkU
[08:44] <bela> if i have an older pc its ok tu run ubuntu ?i instaled on this to see how it works if i like it i whill instal it on my laptop
[08:44] <bela> ty
[08:44] <nicklas_> and abhi what wifi card was it again?
[08:45] <Guest52457> salve
[08:45] <abhi_> i alrey tried tht link but ia m getting some error
[08:45] <bela> i just writed down what was on it
[08:45] <abhi_> current i a, nw at windows operating system
[08:46] <abhi_> any video plssss
[08:46] <bela> ati radeon x550
[08:46] <nicklas_> hey abhi try this: http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10422.0
[08:46] <bela> its like dw sad
[08:47] <goganchic> hi2all
[08:47] <browndawg> what's a better way to check if the user is root than `if [ "$USER" == "root" ]
[08:47] <browndawg> ?
[08:47] <goganchic> can anybody tell me how can I watch my iTunes movies in ubuntu?
[08:47] <polo1982> salve !
[08:50] <Lord255> hi
[08:51] <racho> browndawg, if ["$UID" == 0]
[08:51] <Lord255> i have a file with mod time Oct 27 09:38, i want to change it to 25.oct 0000. checked touch's -m switch..  touch -t<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 but its not working.
[08:51] <nicklas_> hey bela check the side chat
[08:52] <browndawg> thanks
[08:53] <Lord255>  use [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.ss] instead of current time -><PHONE_NUMBER>0000
[08:53] <abhi_> ok nick let me go and try it
[08:55] <Lord255> oh well. i see the seconds are not needed. :o
[09:03] <mfaroukg> how to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the correct nvidia configuration.
[09:04] <mfaroukg> any expert in the xorg.conf here?
[09:05] <dixoncx> need help regarding setting up fastboot; device not recognised. quick google search shows adding udev rules: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19446284&postcount=62 Can somebody explain this udev rule ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311086/
[09:06] <SteveBell> hi, ubuntu 13.10 on a netbook here. somehow all window frames are black: http://cl.ly/image/0W2n3d1t2F2z
[09:06] <SteveBell> any ideas?
[09:11] <SteveBell> this becomes a real problem when the terminal is completely black: http://cl.ly/image/1w0Y1q1P2341
[09:11] <SteveBell> holds true for all windows e.g. thunderbird, sending mail info, update searches, you name it
[09:12] <Malachi> SteveBell: Did you change the theme?  You probably have some old config files conflicting with the new version
[09:22] <bela> can sombady help me
[09:22] <SteveBell> Malachi: yes. since I first started 13.10 it has been like this
[09:22] <bela> a try to instal my video card
[09:22] <bela> found the driver
[09:22] <SteveBell> sounds reasonable. but now what? should I open a discussion on ask ubuntu?
[09:23] <bela> but i dont know how to use termina
[09:23] <bela> i opend the terminal click enter on driver and what do i do next?
[09:23] <Malachi> SteveBell: Look in Nautilus, show hidden files. Delete .themes .gnome etc
[09:23] <eg0x> hi people. how is it possible to add an entry in /etc/resolv.conf which isnt overwritten each time? iam using ubuntu 13.10
[09:25] <SteveBell> Malachi: could you explain in more detail? I don't find nautilus when doing a search
[09:26] <Malachi> SteveBell:  It's your file manager
[09:26] <eg0x> nvm, already found it. its /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base :)
[09:29] <SteveBell> ok, nice name if it doesn't show as such. shows as "Files". so, I said "show hidden files" but a search for .themes shows nothing… hm Malachi any idea?
[09:30] <Malachi> SteveBell:  OK, no problem. Is there some .gnome folders? Delete them.
[09:31] <T-RexXx> s
[09:31] <SteveBell> just now switched to search "all files". takes a while. will let this finish the search for .themes, then .gnome just a mom
[09:34] <Malachi> SteveBell: No need to do a search, really, there's not that many. To see hidden files, you can press "Ctrl+H" then list them alphabetically
[09:34] <bela> f linux
[09:34] <bela> windows is bether
[09:34] <bela> lose a lot of time
[09:35] <bela> search search search
[09:35] <bela> ask ask
[09:35] <bela> F
[09:37] <Night-hacks> how can i set grub 2 to load my older kernel version ?
[09:37] <Night-hacks> i'm currently on 3.2.0-39-generic
[09:37] <parckwart> YAAAAY UBUNTUUUUUUUUUU
[09:37] <Night-hacks> i want to load 3.2.0-38*
[09:37] <Malachi> parckwart: YAY!
[09:38] <Malachi> SteveBell: How you getting on Steve?
[09:38] <dixoncx> problem solved :) for reference: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/android/267-ubuntu-root-nexus-4-phone
[09:38] <SteveBell> Malachi: I'm either doing something wrong, or nothing is found or search is taking ages. not sure which is the case ;)
[09:38] <parckwart> does someone of u know if the multitouch trackpad gestures are fixed in 13.10?
[09:38] <parckwart> in 13.04 they didnt work
[09:39] <Malachi> SteveBell: No need to search, just press Ctrl+H in Nautilus
[09:39] <SteveBell> aha… ok I find .gnome2
[09:40] <Malachi> OK, delete it
[09:40] <SteveBell> done. now restart?
[09:40] <Malachi> SteveBell:  There will be a .config folder, look inside there and if there are gtk folders, delete them
[09:41] <racho> Night-hacks, i suppose you want default boot into your older kernel?
[09:41] <fractal71> hello, does anyone know where to find binutils-gold in ubuntu 13.10 to run this simply opengl example: http://www.kiwwito.com/article/installing-opengl-glut-libraries-in-ubuntu ?
[09:41] <SteveBell> Malachi: I find gtk-2.0 and gtk-3.0 deleting both.
[09:42] <fractal71> I've got an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[09:42] <Malachi> SteveBell:  Good. Now no need to reboot, just log out and log in again
[09:44] <bela> can somebady help me
[09:45] <bela> whay my resolutin is 800x600??
[09:45] <bela> can i change it
[09:45] <Malachi> bela: Did you install graphics drivers?
[09:46] <bela> i downloaded something but i dont tink has worked
[09:46] <bela> i can not see what the terminal its saying but it writen whit red
[09:46] <bela> and disapers fast
[09:47] <Malachi> bela:  If you installed graphics drivers you need to restart the machine
[09:47] <bela> but its ok if that whas red?
[09:48] <bela> can y stay please here until i make a reboot
[09:48] <Malachi> bela: OK
[09:48] <bela> ty
[09:50] <Trudko_> Guys I have problem to increasing mouse wheel speed and from what I seen over internet it seems that it is problem.  did I miss something?
[09:51] <SteveBell> Malachi: folders gone, but problem remains the same so far
[09:51] <bela> hy
[09:52] <bela> Malachi are y here?
[09:52] <Malachi> SteveBell: OK. There are also files called .gtkrc which may be causing the issue. Can you delete them and log out and in again?
[09:52] <Malachi> bela: Yes
[09:52] <bela> dident worked
[09:52] <bela> radeon x550
[09:52] <Malachi> Are you using Ubuntu 13.10?
[09:53] <bela> yes
[09:53] <Maistux> Buenos dias
[09:53] <bela> i am new
[09:53] <bela> whay Bueno
[09:53] <bela> its mall
[09:53] <SteveBell> Malachi: on the top level I see .gtk-bookmarks, in config folder nothing. where would I find .gtkrc
[09:53] <bela> :)
[09:54] <Maistux> Help with 13.10
[09:54] <bela> ?
[09:54] <Malachi> SteveBell: These .gtkrc things are files, not folders and would be below the folders Nautilus
[09:55] <Malachi> bela: Search the hud for "Hardware Drivers" and install the graphics driver
[09:55] <SteveBell> Malachi: as I said. only find the file .gtk-bookmarks below the folders but no .gtkrc
[09:55] <bela> i have downloaded 4 asus but dosent work
[09:57] <racho> SteveBell, you may try to reset compiz and unity; in a terminal type: dconf reset -f /org/compiz
[09:57] <racho> SteveBell, after that: setsid unity
[09:57] <SteveBell> issue is, when I open terminal I don't see a thing
[09:58] <Malachi> SteveBell: OK. Is there a .gconf folder? Get rid of that
[09:59] <racho> SteveBell, what about right after logging in? can you get a working terminal window right after login or it is corrupted right away?
[09:59] <SteveBell> ok, removed that. logging out + in, no change. corrupted right away
[10:00] <SteveBell> can I use the UX term terminal instead?
[10:00] <SteveBell> that shows sth...
[10:00] <racho> yeah
[10:00] <Malachi> bela: Have you tried changing the resolution in display settings?
[10:01] <bela> yes
[10:01] <Malachi> SteveBell: It might be the window manager needs to be reinstalled, if you could reinstall Unity ort whatever it's called