[21:02] <FreedomMaster> wildbat_10_40: it's not that small, it's over a 100gb
[21:03] <uLinux> the firefox icon is gone
[21:03] <nny> guntbert dunno my joke had more to do with the name. I want to like it, but eh. If telepathy works with pidgin, or even just remove telepathy (have not figured out how to disable ir in xession, but I am sure apt-get remove may work) Guess I just wanted to experience 10.4 in it's proper glory
[21:03] <simar> can anyone tell me about ubuntu classroom ..  Is it that conducted in a chatroom only
[21:03] <wildbat_10_40> FreedomMaster, i told you the method already ~gparted
[21:03] <__dantheman> Limey_Packet: your providing bandwith to other users that are downloading
[21:03] <abountu> how can I create a user and make it the default user (as in Ubuntu logs in straight to that user without prompting for pw) - this is currently happening to the current user, and I want it to happen to a different user
[21:03] <__dantheman> thats how bittorent works
[21:03] <mickster04> brb /away bath im old:(
[21:03] <alaska13> hello i am having trouble configuring ubuntu 10.04 with a static ip anyone have any advice?
[21:03] <uLinux> and how do i fix close minimize and maximize position
[21:03] <uLinux> this is annyoing
[21:03] <guntbert> Limey_Packet: as long as you let it -- it is letting other get part of your files from your system as before you got them from others
[21:03] <rye> ^paradox^, openjdk - just apt-get install openjdk-6-jre or jdk; for sun java - sun-java6-jre or jdk
[21:03] <ne7work> hello all :)
[21:03] <FreedomMaster> k
[21:04] <ne7work> How I can start graphic enviorment on linux ubuntu 10.04 server edition?
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> !java | ^paradox^
[21:04] <mawst> What happened to Ubuntu+1?
[21:04] <therkz> ne7work: do you have an xerver and window manager installed?
[21:04] <MPP> test
[21:04] <CRC-error> Hello all
[21:04] <guntbert> nny: empathy was the first thing I ditched on karmic - I never looked at it again
[21:04] <Aji-Dahaka> mawst: it largely cleared since Lucid was released today
[21:04] <maco> mawst: lucid was released
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> mawst: Lucid is already released
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: if you need a desktop then install the desktop OS
[21:04] <Kalidarn> hi, ive been finding setxkbmap -layout us
[21:04] <QueenZ> Lucid is out
[21:04] <nny> guntbert: anyways I found the vista dvd I needed already burnt, and running updates to make sure the problem isn't related to old versions. Thanks for being sane, i'll figure out the issue one way or another
[21:04] <Kalidarn> is required in order to get the ' key working right
[21:04] <CRC-error> I've install Ubuntu 10.04 on my VMware and on the login screen my keyboard is not detected.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Ne7work: why install server when you wanted a desktop
[21:04] <nny> guntbert: (had to install vista, not by choice, it's a client's pc)
[21:05] <vasia> Does anyone know what is this PID: polkitd ? How to remove/stop this daemon? I've tried "sudo start-stop-daemon -n polkitd -K" but the daemon appear again!Thx!
[21:05] <Kalidarn> and this is not just lucid but karmic, too is there a better way to set that layout
[21:05] <uLinux> How do i fix close minimize and maximize position? It's annoying have it on left
[21:05] <ddelony> No more mirrors. Only main Ubuntu servers from now on for me.
[21:05] <Limey_Packet> Will my torrent client stop seeding when I close it?
[21:05] <uLinux> How do i fix close minimize and maximize position? It's annoying have it on left..
[21:05] <nny> guntbert: we'll see, maybe if ubuntu beats me enough I'll love it
[21:05] <CRC-error> I can select user or other but cannot type my password or alt+shift+# to get console.
[21:05] <^paradox^> rye: thnx
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> ULinux: there are thousands of guides online dude
[21:05] <MPP> Lucid is pretty cool
[21:05] <brontosaurusrexw> uLinux: i think thats in themes somewhere
[21:05] <uLinux> ActionParsnip thousands of guides for lucid lol..
[21:05] <dgtombs> anyone having success with lucid ISO torrents?
[21:05]  * Gaming4JC just noticed they FINALLY updated ubuntu.com announcing the Lucid release... ^^
[21:05] <guntbert> nny: you're welcome :-) we won't interfere one or the other way - we try to help if you ask us -- Good luck :-)
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Brontosaurusrexw: its in gconf-editor
[21:06] <ded> How do I tell firefox to use evince and not acroread?
[21:06] <uLinux> and yea firefox icon is gone.
[21:06] <ded> I've done firefox preferences and mailcap
[21:06] <brontosaurusrexw> ActionParsnip: ic, then i guess i changed the theme completely, uLinux wrong info
[21:06] <ne7work> Can I install gnome graphic enviorment or kde on Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition and how?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Ulinux: for moving the buttons there are lots of guides. Remember lucid has had a few alphas and a couple of betas
[21:06] <CRC-error> exit
[21:06] <Leapo> Is VMWare's video card still not supported under Ubuntu 10.04? I can't get it to work properly.
[21:06] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[21:06] <__dantheman> sudo apt-get install kde
[21:07] <ne7work> __dantheman and how i can start the kde and stop kde?
[21:07] <guntbert> Leapo: you must install the vmware tools in the guest OS
[21:07] <ne7work> startx or? what?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: search for: vmware xorg.conf 1024x768 ,should help
[21:07] <Leapo> guntbert: Did that, still no joy
[21:07] <ne7work> and how i can to stop kde?
[21:07] <jdtm> okay i got the md5sum of the iso, its d7bf7fa4c2cd2518c92ab81faf5b795d
[21:07] <Kebap23> so, what is better: update or fresh new installation? i am currently using 9.10, want to upgrade to 10.04
[21:07] <__dantheman> ne7work: it should be available to select at the login screen
[21:07] <uLinux> so lame
[21:07] <RambJoe> eww these ati 10.4 drivers are HORRIBLE
[21:07] <guntbert> Leapo: then I don't know - sorry
[21:07] <Gaming4JC> Can anyone get Cannonical to update their store? I wanna buy 10.4 DVDs! :D
[21:07] <Leapo> ActionParsnip: i have vmware tools installed, but the driver Ubuntu is using doesn't appear to support 3D acceleration
[21:07] <ne7work> __dantheman on ubuntu 10.04 server edition?
[21:08] <Neo--> hm, can I expect any problems with drivers after updating vmware instance of ubuntu?
[21:08] <Alienarch> RambJoe:
[21:08] <Alienarch> how so?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Kebap23: i'd try an upgrade first
[21:08] <__dantheman> I would assume so
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: it won't either
[21:08] <__dantheman> when you first start up it comes to gdm right?
[21:08] <__dantheman> where you logon
[21:08] <guntbert> Leapo: you *may* have better luck in #vmware
[21:08] <zebastian_> i am on hardy with lxde, i want to get rid of gnome and just log into lxde everytime
[21:08] <RambJoe> i can't even drag a window to the other screen
[21:08] <zebastian_> how can i do this?
[21:08] <RambJoe> and everythign is really slow
[21:08] <ne7work> __dantheman well when I go to school how to stop kde?
[21:08] <kevin_> is there an easy way to downgrade php5.3 -> 5.2.x ?
[21:08] <__dantheman> logout and select gnome from the drop down menu
[21:08] <arand> Are there no release notes for Lucid yet?
[21:08] <ne7work> __dantheman how to stop and run kde from terminal?
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !notes | arand
[21:09] <Leapo> ActionParsnip: VMWare 7 added full 3D acceleration support. Everything the host hardware supports, teh virtual video adapter supports. I've had OpenGL and DirectX games running fine in Windows virtual machines already (which do have proper drivers)
[21:09] <Leapo> So why doesn't Ubuntu have a driver for it?
[21:09] <ne7work> __dantheman without i stop my host?
[21:09] <RambJoe> the 10.4s say they support Xorg 7.5
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Leapo: then i'd log a bug and/or ask in #vmware
[21:09] <ne7work> i need to kill only kde
[21:09] <Leapo> guntbert: I'll give it a try, but they sent me over here when I asked during the beta
[21:10] <arand> sebsebseb: Where on earth are they linked on the homepage, I was completely unable to find it there...
[21:10] <mewt> Is there someway of forcing update-manager to not use the default ubuntu download server for the upgrade ? Ubuntu servers are slowwwwwwwwww atm
[21:10]  * rye downloaded all ubuntu cd torrents and started seeding
[21:10] <__dantheman> if you just install kde and dont change any of the other settings, you wouldn't need to kill it
[21:10] <rye> mewt, yes, sudo software-properties-gtk
[21:11] <guntbert> Leapo: understood - but I never heard about needing a special driver for a virtual product, that wasn't provided by the VM system
[21:11] <NerdsMcgee_> Anyone else on a Macbook having a problem where the laptop thinks it's plugged in on battery?
[21:11] <__dantheman> just logout of the session and you're back to the default install
[21:11] <TannerF> hi. can I run 10.04 on a computer w/ a half gig of ram and a 3 GHz P4?
[21:11] <Leapo> guntbert: They did provide it but it required a kernel update for 9.10. I had hoped it would be rolled into 10.04
[21:11] <Alienarch> Yes Tanner
[21:11] <ne7work> __dantheman when I logout i stop any processes or no?
[21:11] <irv> is hibernation working for all y'all?
[21:11] <ne7work> __dantheman or stop only KDE?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> TannerF: yes
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Tanner: more than I've got so yes absolutely
[21:12] <guntbert> Leapo: did you install dkms in the guest?
[21:12] <__dantheman> when your logging out, your just coming back to gdm
[21:12] <mewt> rye, changing it from there wont help, it gets automatically modified to archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list once the upgrade starts.
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> !requirements | tanner
[21:12] <__dantheman> there shouldn't be any left over kde parts running
[21:12] <Leapo> guntbert: What would that do?
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman gdm is?
[21:12] <imagine7xy> Can someone tell me please how to get my ATI drivers working? Call me @<PHONE_NUMBER> please.
[21:12] <__dantheman> the default login for gnome
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman i talk you to Linux Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition
[21:12] <amereservant> After installing Ubuntu Server, what is the root user's password?
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> !language | imagine7xy
[21:12] <ne7work> __dantheman i talk you to Linux Ubuntu 10.04 Server Edition not Desktop?
[21:12] <mewt> amereservant, the one you set during install
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !noroot | amereservant
[21:13] <dxtr> Uhm.. What do I do when I've run out of space on / thanks to /lib? :D
[21:13] <amereservant> mewt: It never asks to set one.
[21:13] <guntbert> Leapo: it provides a way to "automatically" compile the configured kernel modules after a kernel update
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: I guess that applys to the server edition as well, but maybe not
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: there's also #ubuntu-server by the way
[21:13] <poutine> imagine7xy, you're really expecting people to call you to support you?
[21:13] <zebastian_> i installed lxde as my desktop environment, is there a way of getting rid of gnome'
[21:13] <imagine7xy> poutine: Yes, I would
[21:13] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Well I've never had it prompt me for one in Desktop either.
[21:13] <zebastian_> ?
[21:13] <LinuxGuy2009> !pm | imagine7xy
[21:13] <brontosaurusrexw> dxtr: you move /lib to 2nd disk or partition
[21:13] <sebsebseb> amereservant: yes Ubuntu doesn't use root, it uses sudo instead
[21:13] <Leapo> guntbert: Seems like a lot of work to go through for something that should have been rolled in months ago. i'll try asking in #vmware -_-
[21:13] <guntbert> !root | amereservant
[21:13] <poutine> imagine7xy, I wouldn't, you're not paying for it, are you?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> !sudo | amereservant
[21:14] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: then you probably should purchase a server operating system
[21:14] <zebastian_> i am on hardy, but if i wanted to could i run ubuntu smoothly and without trouble with lxde only?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: yes
[21:14] <imagine7xy> I will pay someone to help me fix this?
[21:14] <imagine7xy> You want it that way
[21:14] <theGman> I'm new to ubuntu (Use Fedora Mostly) I need to know how to install the entire x window system, I've only got part of it atm...but can't startx...I get something about no xrdb or something...
[21:14] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: how?
[21:14] <__dantheman> what are you trying to fix
[21:14] <amereservant> Ok, I gotcha.  I didn't know exactly what sudoer was until I installed Debian and realized it doesn't use it by default.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Zebastian: totally lxde rocks
[21:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: don't think LXDE is in the Hardy repo though, but maybe can get a ppa for lubuntu for example
[21:14] <joaopinto> imagine7xy, did you tried to enable the restricted drivers ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Zebastian: sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:15] <sebsebseb> !lubuntu
[21:15] <theGman> I'm using 9.10 server
[21:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: ^
[21:15] <joaopinto> theGman, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:15] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i already have lxde, wha ti dont know is how/if i shoudld get rid of gnome
[21:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: doesn't matter if you keep both
[21:15] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: run glxinfo | grep direct
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> zebastian_:  sudo tasksel (untick ubuntu desktop)
[21:15] <theGman> Anyone?
[21:16] <__dantheman> and tell us the output
[21:16] <kevin_> is there an easy way to downgrade php5.3 -> 5.2.x ?
[21:16] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i actually want to get rid of gnome
[21:16] <zebastian_> LinuxGuy2009: what is that?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: hrm
[21:16] <sebsebseb> !purekde | zebastian_
[21:16] <s3r3n1t7> zebastian, do you have a specific reason that you want to get rid of Gnome?
[21:16] <LinuxGuy2009>  zebastian_: if you want gnome gone, then there you go.
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: I think that page tells you what to remove for Gnome
[21:16] <irv> for hibernation, should it just load back into the same session I had? When rebooting, I just get GRUB again and then a normal login prompt
[21:16] <joaopinto> kevin_, no
[21:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: ,but also what to install for Kubuntu so you don't want to do that
[21:17] <kallisto_> i have deleted my /boot/grub folder how I recreate the stage1 file?
[21:17] <kevin_> @joapinto : GRR.. thanks
[21:17] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i wont install kubuntu, i am just afraid that i might mess something up by getting rid of gnome
[21:17] <uLinux> broadcast accounts lame..
[21:17] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: so keep it and don't use it, problem solved?
[21:17] <theGman> I'm new to ubuntu (Use Fedora Mostly) I need to know how to install x window system, including all the Xorg stuff...anyone?
[21:18] <littlepenguin> gman??
[21:18] <zebastian_> sebsebseb: i guess ill take a risk
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> zebastian_: Yeah the directions are there, but if you dont want to then dont. Your call.
[21:18] <mewt> theGman, usually you can install the default gnome desktop by simply install sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <littlepenguin> if you need x window system install the desktop version @gman
[21:18] <__dantheman> imagine7xy: what was the gfx card you had, again?
[21:18] <theGman> Which means I'm in a textbased login, not much for browsers :P
[21:19] <trism> theGman: if you just want xorg, just sudo apt-get install xorg; (you'll probably want a window manager too)
[21:19] <Gaming4JC> http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17 ... epic.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Thegman: why install server when you wanted a desktop system?
[21:19] <barbarella> theGman:It depends what you want, gnome kde...
[21:19] <Spice`> Anyone here play n?
[21:19] <Spreadsheet_> Where are GNOME backgrounds (wallpapers) stored?
[21:20] <littlepenguin> yep parsnip that was my thought
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: /usr/share/backgrounds or something like that
[21:20] <^paradox^> thnx for taking time to answer my questions all. ill be back shortly.
[21:20] <theGman> barbarella: Gnome is fine for now, I can worry about that later.
[21:20] <Spreadsheet_> sebsebseb: thanks
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Spreadsheet_: np
[21:20] <littlepenguin> @spreadsheet http://gnome-look.org/
[21:20] <__dantheman> damn, the servers are slammed
[21:20] <theGman> barbarella: Would it be aptitude install "Gnome Desktop" ?
[21:20] <mchasard> can i install ubuntu 10.04 on a eeepc 701 sdhc 4Go
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard: the netbook edition I think so
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard:  probably even the desktop, but should go for the netbook edition really
[21:21] <mchasard> it's anormaly long
[21:21] <cantoma> so any benchmark on this new ubuntu ?? is it faster than the others ?????
[21:21] <LinuxGuy2009> mchasard: Download and test it yourself. Might be surprised.
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !netbook | mchasard
[21:21] <jhambo> what kind of download rates should I expect for distribution upgrade?  I'm getting only like 40 kB/s
[21:21] <mchasard> not desktop ?
[21:21] <sebsebseb> oh where is the bot
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: sure the netbook remix or xubuntu will be fine
[21:21] <HappyMuppet> 2MB]
[21:21] <joaopinto> cantoma, google for benchmarks
[21:21] <sebsebseb> mchasard: netook edition has a special kernel versin for net books
[21:21] <__dantheman> jhambo: the servers are slammed
[21:22] <sebsebseb> version
[21:22] <mchasard> i don(t like the panel
[21:22] <joneskoo> mchasard: it's not a lot of space so consider what you install, too.
[21:22] <jcbv> does 10.04 run compiz on old geforce vanta and tnt cards
[21:22] <LinuxGuy2009> sebsebseb: Hmm I wasnt even aware of that.
[21:22] <__dantheman> just pulling info about new packages im only getting 10-15kb/sec
[21:22] <sebsebseb> jhambo: :D was wondering when stuff like that would happen
[21:22] <theGman> barbarella: Hello? Did I have the right of it or...?
[21:22] <__dantheman> and thats ona 50Mbps line
[21:22] <littlepenguin> i got them fast
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: or use ubuntu-minimal and install lubuntu desktop
[21:22] <mchasard> hum ok so its normal that i'm at at89%
[21:23] <littlepenguin> the installing takes me 1 1/2 hour
[21:23] <jhambo> Also, can I expect distribution upgrade to leave me with a system will actually work or will it break half of my stuff (as in my past attempts at distribution upgrade)?
[21:23] <barbarella> theGman:it is said, apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[21:23] <sebsebseb> jhambo: that's why experienced sane people, tend to upgrade at least two days after the release, so I mean Saturday by the earliest
[21:23] <bikcmp> Hi everyone, it appears that the ubuntu apt server is't working.
[21:23] <jcbv> seeing it took me 8 downloads to get a good installable version with 9.10 i hope this aint the same
[21:23] <mchasard> ok its more than 30mn
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Mchasard: remove unnecesarry apps
[21:23] <jhambo> sebsebseb: yes that would have been sane...
[21:23] <barbarella> theGman:sudo it is
[21:23] <theGman> barbarella: Sry, I must have lost in all the chatter. Thx :)
[21:23] <ratcheer> jhambo: Upgrade worked fine, for me.
[21:23] <s3r3n1t7> bikcmp, mind telling us why it isn't workin?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !slow
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> theGman, if you want Gnome and Ubuntu default stuff "sudo aptitiude install ubuntu-desktop"
[21:23] <BlackBishop> in what package can I find libxpcom.so ?
[21:23] <codertux> hello, how can I make a service start by default wen the machine boots?
[21:24] <UseTheForce> eek installer ain't working on my puter at all
[21:24] <ubutom> no fglrx atm?
[21:24] <bikcmp> s3r3n1t7: Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com and it freezes.  Is it because of the recent new version?
[21:24] <jcbv> im just gonna reinstall ubuntu 10.04 over 9.10
[21:24] <sebsebseb> jhambo: there's even a factoid for when things get slow by the way  ^
[21:24] <littlepenguin> codertux under system startprogramms
[21:24] <s3r3n1t7> bikcmp, see message from ubottu above. It's quite working actually, albeit a bit slow.
[21:24] <ganja> when do you think it will go at normal speed?
[21:24] <thirtytwofeetper> 32
[21:24] <cantoma> joaopinto, i could find for Alpha 2 but not for final release .. could you find anything for final release?
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: alternate disk maybe?
[21:24] <codertux> littlepenguin: I'm working on a remote server through ssh and my debian/ubuntu-fu is quite limited :)
[21:24] <bikcmp> s3r3n1t7: I see
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> why this wont work http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/07/10/unwire-with-networkmanager/
[21:25] <s3r3n1t7> !mirrors
[21:25] <UseTheForce> LinuxGuy2009: i'm using the regulary iso - is the alternate any different?
[21:25] <jcbv> anyone use geforce 2 gts and compiz or vanta and compiz or is it dead
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> !bluetooth
[21:25] <barbarella> theGman:same here, to many letters are passing my screen
[21:25] <frybye> just installed lucid - have no sound with creative x-fi extreem audio - any tips?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> UseTheForce: support for some more hardware, and text based installer
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: Yes its a text based installer.
[21:25] <mchasard> i'm going to wait till the end
[21:25] <sebsebseb> !alternate | UseTheForce
[21:25] <joaopinto> cantoma, don't expect significant performance changes after alpha2
[21:25] <mchasard> thanks
[21:26] <thirtytwofeetper>      /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[21:26] <Ossah> Hi all. Just install 10.04. I am having a weird problem with the Applications menu. It seems to crash if I hover of "Graphics" or "Sound & Video" any ideas
[21:26] <UseTheForce> LinuxGuy2009 cool thx guys i'm gunna give that one a spin :)
[21:26] <xckpd7> question: I'm trying to install a ruby gem, and it isn't working.... is it possible that the ubuntu package manager is conflicting with it?
[21:26] <elnur> If my CPU can handle 64 bit, should I finally switch to it?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> UseTheForce: good luck
[21:26] <sebsebseb> elnur: probably
[21:26] <subone> If anyone is wondering how I fixed my issues earlier with trying to install Ubuntu on a machine with a bad power supply (CD Drive was intermittently working) and no ability to boot from USB: http://subone.org/blog/2010/04/ubuntu-9-10-installation-sager-np7620/
[21:26] <adasz> how can i change the acc on ubuntuone
[21:26] <adasz> ?
[21:26] <elnur> sebsebseb, know any disadvantages of 64 bit?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> elnur: Im thinking of finally doing so myself.
[21:26] <cantoma> joaopinto, well there is a lot of regression due to security reasons .. it does not perform better than 9.04
[21:26] <sebsebseb> elnur: most stuff seems to work well
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !one | adasz
[21:27] <elnur> LinuxGuy2009, with 10.04?
[21:27] <hsn> !two | hsn
[21:27] <joaopinto> cantoma, who ? There are no know security related regressions
[21:27] <Ossah> Hi all. Just install 10.04. I am having a weird problem with the Applications menu. It seems to crash if I hover of "Graphics" or "Sound & Video" any ideas
[21:27] <tomatoes7> is there a torrent for netbook ubuntu 10.04?
[21:27] <artistxe> md5sum check not matching. is this because of respin concerning grub earlier today ????
[21:28] <joneskoo> elnur: 64bit results in slightly higher memory usage, that's a downside. of course 64 bit supports more memory, too if you can can install more
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !torrents | tomatoes7
[21:28] <s3r3n1t7> Ossah, can you be more specific? Crash? Does it not show a picture? Does the screen freeze? Does it not dance, bring you beer?
[21:28] <artistxe> can anyone do an md5sum check ?????
[21:28] <LinuxGuy2009> elnur: Yes 10.04
[21:28] <Ossah> huh.....it seems to be working now :)
[21:28] <thebruce> hey guys
[21:28] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | artistxe
[21:28] <cantoma> joaopinto, performance continues to suffer dramatically under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it is not expected that it will change at all for this next Ubuntu release. This major drop in the number of transactions being carried out per second is due to an EXT4 file-system change designed to provide better data safety but with a significant performance penalty.
[21:28] <thebruce> is this support for the 10.04 LTS?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> artistxe: you can aldo sha1sum and sha2sum check or whatever it is
[21:28] <elnur> joneskoo, i have 4 GB of RAM, and my 32-bit ubuntu sees all of it because of -pae kernel. does 64 bit supports even more?
[21:28] <sebsebseb> artistxe: also not aldo above
[21:28] <frybye> using lucid in settings - sound - it seems to have correctly identified my sound card but does not offer the 5.1 setup I have - any tips?
[21:28] <rohan> elnur: no
[21:28] <ratcheer> ubottu: You are a cool dude!
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009> seb is fast as lightning today
[21:29] <elnur> LinuxGuy2009, heh. then we are in the same situation :)
[21:29] <ZykoticK9> tomatoes7, yes on this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[21:29] <sebsebseb> !thanks | ratcheer
[21:29] <Ossah> guess Pidgin install did more than just install
[21:29] <thebruce> i am having an issue with my number pad on my keyboard
[21:29] <littlepenguin> codertux take cron
[21:29] <Ossah> thanks guys.
[21:29] <joaopinto> cannonball, ah, you mean data safety, yes, but that is not ubuntu specific, that is related to ext4, you can use ext3 or, increase ext4 performance at a security cost
[21:29] <Ossah> lol
[21:29] <elnur> rohan, so, 64-bit supports as much as 32-bit pae?
[21:29] <artistxe> ubottu, uh...... I am not using windows to do a check !
[21:30] <cantoma> joaopinto, yes you are right
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: !numlock
[21:30] <barbarella> elnur:go for the 64bits
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: I think it's nicer to do support in here, when the channel number is rather big indeed
[21:30] <joneskoo> elnur: if you see all your memory, that's not a gain anyways. there might be some minor performance difference but which way, depends on the applications I guess. I'm not aware of significant differences either way.
[21:30] <thebruce> lol LinuxGuy2009 i don't have a numlock on my keyboard
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: such as now
[21:30] <k0sh> should i install regular ubuntu or netbook remix on my msi-wind? i dont like netbook-ubuntu gui that much
[21:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: altough it was like 2000 people earlier
[21:30] <zebastian_> lynx was just released today?
[21:30] <Ossah> later guys and gals. I am sure I'll be back after I break something....
[21:30] <sebsebseb> zebastian_: yes
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  sebsebseb: true that
[21:30] <elnur> barbarella, heard anything about flash player not working on 64-bit?
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !isitout | zebastian_
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, if you don't like UNE, then just install the desktop version
[21:31] <Ossah> Hey I can add something!
[21:31] <sebsebseb> !ask | Ossah
[21:31] <Ossah> I have 64bit 10.04 and flash player is working fine
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> elnur, flash works on 64bit, there is a click issue that needs to be manually fixed though
[21:31] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: Whats your actual question so we all know what going on with ya?
[21:31] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: i like internals that are suited to netobooks...
[21:31] <maniek> hey
[21:31] <maniek> pl?
[21:31] <bencc> is there a difference between installing fresh 10.04 or upgrading from the beta?
[21:31] <thebruce> lol LinuxGuy2009 ok
[21:31] <Aji-Dahaka> so, is there a convenient way to back up home directory and the set of applications I chose to install before an upgrade to Lynx?  When I tried the beta, the system would kernel panic on boot and reinstalls from scratch take a while.
[21:31] <Hebram> elnur:  The only thing I have experienced issues with on x64 is the Cisco AnyConnect VPN client.
[21:31] <joaopinto> !final | bencc
[21:32] <sebsebseb> bencc: maybe
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, i believe the kernels are actually the same
[21:32] <axisys> i am having issue with javaws unable to open a .jnlp file http://pastebin.com/6sVStTJ1
[21:32] <axisys> anyone can help?
[21:32] <Ossah> had to install flash player from Synaptic and had a few errors at first but it installed fine once I did a normal update
[21:32] <sebsebseb> bencc: if you upgrade from the beta,  the updates that were installed, may have not installed properly
[21:32] <elnur> ZykoticK9, i bet it's not so hard to fix, right?
[21:32] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: theres is more to internals than just kernels..
[21:32] <ratcheer> bencc: There will be some minor differences.
[21:32] <thebruce> i have an Mx5500 keyboard my number pad worked at one time. NOW the numberpad just moves the mouse, or left clicks
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> elnur, it isn't
[21:32] <carlos_> hi guys
[21:32] <dupondje> bencc: no difference. When you upgrade the beta, you have the final
[21:32] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java
[21:32] <sebsebseb> dupondje: uh well see above ^
[21:32] <agronholm> "Users of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS may wish to wait for 10.04.1 LTS, due in July 2010,
[21:32] <agronholm> before upgrading. "
[21:32] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, you can install without removing the /home partition, anyway if you had a kernel panic you should test with a livecd first
[21:32] <carlos_> anyone knows a tutorial to update to 10.04 from shell?
[21:32] <bencc> I got two different answers :)
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> k0sh, are you sure about that?  I've certainly heard the only real difference is the interface
[21:32] <dupondje> sebsebseb: lagg :( :P
[21:32] <agronholm> why is this said in the announcement?
[21:32] <elnur> Hebram, heh. since i don't plan to use it, seems like 64 will be a good choice
[21:32] <joneskoo> bencc: there was some security note in release notes but that was only about alpha versions I think
[21:32] <bencc> sebsebseb: why not properly?
[21:32] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: the installer (built into my laptop) wipes the whole hard disk on install
[21:33] <sebsebseb> dupondje: have the final sure, but  maybe not with all the updates installed properly
[21:33] <stryk3r> If I had the release candidate of 10.04, by just updating it should be the same as the stable release right?
[21:33] <maniek> PL?
[21:33] <Ossah> exam revision to do. later
[21:33] <sebsebseb> bencc: since that's how it is, when in development
[21:33] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: I may try a liveusb boot.  Good idea.
[21:33] <k0sh> ZykoticK9: power management, handling of things like lid, webcam, some tunings to motherboards.. etc
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> stryk3r, yes
[21:33] <littlepenguin> apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <bencc> joneskoo: it's a vbox vm so I guess security shouldn't be an issue
[21:33] <joaopinto> agronholm, because it's likely that some important but undetected problems will be fixed until then
[21:33] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: Maybe accessability features are enabled?
[21:33] <markjones> grr
[21:33] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java on 10.04
[21:33] <barbarella> elnur:go for it, a nice example is the 3 GB barrier on a 32bits system.
[21:33] <ZykoticK9> !final > stryk3r
[21:33] <bencc> sebsebseb: ok. thanks
[21:33] <Aji-Dahaka> carlos_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, set karmic to lucid, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:33] <stryk3r> ZykoticK9, thanks
[21:33] <markjones> i cannot partition my HDD
[21:33] <sebsebseb> dupondje:   bencc  let's be clear, you have the updates sure, but they may not be giving you the features you are meant to have
[21:33] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, DO NOT, that is now how you upgrade
[21:33] <elnur> barbarella, the thing is that my 32-bit sees all of 4 GB because of -pae kernel
[21:33] <agronholm> joaopinto, ok so it was a generic thing like "wait for service pack 1"?
[21:34] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: ?
[21:34] <maniek> hello
[21:34] <ratcheer> bencc: For instance, my upgrade did not end up with the current alsa driver. I had to fix it, manually.
[21:34] <reportingsjr> is anyone else getting 404 and 403 errors while trying to dl 10.04 upgrades?
[21:34] <LinuxGuy2009> markjones: Hi there MarkJones, my name is MarkJones too. :)
[21:34] <dupondje> sebsebseb: oops :) karmic from alpha 2, and lucid since alpha 1 :) seems like I should do a reinstall ?
[21:34] <thebruce> LinuxGuy2009, they are not
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> elnur, 64bit will too
[21:34] <jo_> i need help with symlink on 64bit java on 10.04
[21:34] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, the procedure which you have described is not recommended and could break the system, you use either update-manger or do-release-upgrade
[21:34] <bencc> ratcheer: how can I check if I have problems?
[21:34] <amereservant> So LVM is like raid, but without the redundancy, right?
[21:34] <stefg> markjones: is there still stuff on that hd that you need and that's not backed up?
[21:34] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: when did apt-get dist-upgrade stop handling it?
[21:34] <joaopinto> amereservant, not, they are not related at all
[21:34] <markjones> stefg: a windows partition
[21:34] <sebsebseb> dupondje: if your lacking features that  your meant to have,  if not, your probably ok,  but well  10.04 has a nice installer slide show as well
[21:34] <markjones> and that's about 300gb
[21:35] <prof87> hi at all
[21:35] <joaopinto> Aji-Dahaka, years ago, since update-manager was introduced which handles cenarios not covered by dist-upgrade
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !dd
[21:35] <ratcheer> bencc: I don't know. You just have to keep an eye on things.
[21:35] <jimcooncat> prof87: 1885 users say hi back
[21:35] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: oh, interesting.  I didn't know.  (I haven't used much ubuntu ... freebsd is my usual)
[21:35] <joneskoo> amereservant: LVM is more than RAID since it can be dynamically changed (resizing partitions and adding new physical storage)
[21:35] <bencc> ratcheer: ok
[21:35] <stefg> markjones: seems that your partition table is half broken. you better take a backup of that win-partition before you proceed
[21:35] <markjones> I'll Wubi it
[21:35] <sebsebseb> dupondje: oh and that's something if you been upgrading Karmic since alpha 1, without things messing up  big time
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> jo_, this is how i used 64bit java with Chromium, you could adapt for Firefox probably http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[21:35] <dupondje> sebsebseb: think all have them all :) but never seen slideshow installer ... héhé :D
[21:35] <elnur> My CPU is Core i7. Is it really 64-bit?
[21:35] <joaopinto> JonathanD, some RAIDs are not dynamic, it's not related to LVM at all
[21:35] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> jas4711: thank you.
[21:36] <amereservant> joaopinto: Well if I used LVM and say I have a 20GB hdd and an 80GB hdd, I can use LVM to combine them as a single 100GB partition if I wanted, right?
[21:36] <Stavros> hello
[21:36] <joaopinto> ops, was for joneskoo
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> joaopinto: thank you
[21:36] <Alienarch> Anyone mind helping a noob out a little on simple stuff for server?
[21:36] <Aji-Dahaka> jas4711: whoops, meant that for someone else.
[21:36] <Stavros> is anyone else having trouble updating, getting "cannot download the installation notes"?
[21:36] <thebruce> LinuxGuy2009, i fixed it thanks
[21:36] <sebsebseb> dupondje: yeah that's for clean installs of  9.10 and 10.04, slide show installers
[21:36] <thebruce> 321321
[21:36] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:36] <joaopinto> amereservant, right, it allows you to do logical grouping of storage, but that is not RAID related
[21:36] <sebsebseb> dupondje: like Windows so people can find out about the operating system, whilst it's installing
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> thebruce: good to hear
[21:36] <dupondje> cool :)
[21:36] <shakey_snake> where is the NBE torrent?
[21:36] <elnur> Why I see only amd64 ubuntu iso? nothing for x86-64?
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> Stavros, someone was mentioning that issue a little while ago - not sure what the outcome was, sorry.
[21:36] <ppaulhus> hey there... just wondering how do I update to 10.04 from an existing ubuntu install? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:36] <Alienarch> amd64 is x86-64 also
[21:36] <Stavros> hmm, thanks
[21:37] <Stavros> Alienarch: just ask
[21:37] <MikeChelen> ppaulhus: yeah or use update-manager
[21:37] <amereservant> joaopinto: Ok, I gotcha.  That's what I thought, I guess the mention of RAID was a bad one.  Now if one disk fails in a LVM setup, does it loose everything in the LVM partition(s)?
[21:37] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:37] <s3r3n1t7> !upgrade | ppaulhus
[21:37] <Alienarch> well i dont have apt-get on my server, but I am wanting to put webmin on it.. just not sure how to get it there lol
[21:37] <shakey_snake> er.. UNE torrent, whatever it's called now
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> !64bit
[21:37] <ppaulhus> thanks
[21:37] <dupondje> btw, sunbird has been removed ? :s
[21:37] <abountu> how can I create a user and make it the default user (as in Ubuntu logs in straight to that user without prompting for pw) - this is currently happening to the current user, and I want it to happen to a different user
[21:38] <joaopinto> amereservant, yes, unless you use LVM mirroring, which provides mirroring functionaly, but to be honest I am not sure Linux LVM supports mirroring
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> dupondje, looks that way
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dupondje: possibily, since Sunbird no longer support Desktop Linux, however there's a fork of Sunbird, which does
[21:38] <Stavros> Alienarch: are you running an ubuntu server?
[21:38] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:38] <Alienarch> Yeah Stav, 10.04 (LAMP)
[21:38] <kenny> hey, is it out yet ?:D
[21:38] <amereservant> joaopinto: Alright, thank you very much.  I was curious and read up on it, but wasn't sure about those two things.
[21:38] <axolote> Question: Is the standard desktop i386 download (via torrent) for 10.04 a live version?  I can't seem to start up a live environment. It just goes black after the boot splash and doesn't do anything.  I installed the .iso on a USB stick via unetbootin. Any ideas?
[21:38] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: One user can only be set to autologin. Keep in mind that keyrings may still require a password.
[21:38] <sebsebseb> !isitout | kenny
[21:38] <Zed`> Anyone have any luck installing VMware tools (ESX) on 10.04?
[21:38] <armence> Hey all, I have this one folder in which several people need to be able to read and write. How can I set it up such that as soon as a file is added in that folder, it immediately becomes owned, readable and writable by a certain group?
[21:38] <Mahara> In which package is asoundconf ?
[21:39] <strange> anyone know how to get the close/minimize/maximize buttons to the right?
[21:39] <ShibaKun> I just noticed the lack of a PowerPC ISO on the 10.04 downloads page.  Is this planned or has it been phased out?
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: System->Admin->Users and Groups
[21:39] <Guest64581> cool, so how do i refresh from karmic?:D
[21:39] <joneskoo> amereservant: LVM is nice when combined with RAID
[21:39] <sebsebseb> !controls | strange
[21:39] <dupondje> sebsebseb: whats the fork .
[21:39] <dupondje> ?
[21:39] <littlepenguin> dejavues the 10th
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> !controls | strange
[21:39] <barbarella> armence:samba?
[21:39] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: Make sure that all users are part of the same group.
[21:39] <amereservant> joneskoo: Hmmm, that's an interesting idea.  That way you have the redundancy and the flexibility.....
[21:39] <reportingsjr> is anyone else getting 404 and 403 errors while trying to dl 10.04 upgrades?
[21:39] <joneskoo> amereservant: exactly
[21:40] <sebsebseb> dupondje: nightinggal or something.  search http://www.linuxtoday.com for Sunbird, and stuff will come up about that
[21:40] <joneskoo> amereservant: and if you need more space, you can add another RAID-1 or RAID-5 to the LVM set
[21:40] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: the download servers are being hammered right now
[21:40] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, PowerPC hasn't been officially canonical for a couple of releases, believe there's some community ports
[21:40] <Ken8521> !powerpc | ShibaKun
[21:40] <s3r3n1t7> !slow
[21:40] <LinuxGuy2009> !permissions
[21:40] <armence> LinuxGuy2009, Well, ok, but users are part of several different groups... How can I make sure the file is owned by the correct group?
[21:40] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: grab the torrents
[21:40] <joneskoo> amereservant: you can extend LVM on the fly (and even move physical volumes off the set, moving data to remaining volumes)
[21:40] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: so I thought, but I don't even get a small download rate I just get 404 and 403 errors. How long until you think I can get the full upgrades
[21:40] <shakey_snake> where is the Netbook edition torrent?
[21:40] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: well I'm upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04. Can I do that with the torrents somehow?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !torrents | shakey_snake
[21:41] <andy112233> Hi everyone. Lucid Lynx does not recognize my USB storage devices when plugged in. Karmic Koala did. Any help? THANKYOU!
[21:41] <ShibaKun> reportingsjr: wait until tomorrow
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> shakey_snake, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[21:41] <reportingsjr> ShibaKun: that's what I thought, thank you!
[21:41] <desti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[21:41] <amereservant> joneskoo: Yeah, very nice!  I'm surprised that hasn't caught my attention any sooner.  The only drawback would be the lack of windows compatibility since LVM is for Linux.  But to the sole linux users, it's awesome.
[21:41] <Stavros> can i upgrade through a torrent?
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Stavros: no
[21:41] <Stavros> aw
[21:41] <Dr-Ubuntu> i upgraded a week ago to 10.4 but now its official release i dont get any updates why is that?
[21:41] <reportingsjr> Stavros: shame, I know. Haha
[21:41] <elnur> So, I still don't get. If my CPU is Intel Core i7 which is x86-64, can I install amd64 version on it?
[21:41] <acicula> Stavros: you can download the iso via torrent
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> !final > Dr-Ubuntu no
[21:41] <acicula> elnur: yes
[21:41] <sebsebseb> Dr-Ubuntu: there should have been a few, if you did the rc
[21:41] <axolote> @ubottu: Do the .iso's from the torrents allow booting into a live environment?
[21:41] <zebastian_> can someone explain to me how i am supposed to download from this page? https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
[21:41] <Stavros> acicula: ah, i'll just wait a few days, thanks
[21:41] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: Not sure other than the creator to give permission to the group manually. Not sure if there is an automatic way.
[21:41] <Ken8521> Dr-Ubuntu, you are probably up to date, just run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[21:42] <acicula> Stavros: downloading the torrent wont take long
[21:42] <Stavros> zebastian_: join #launchpad
[21:42] <armence> LinuxGuy2009, Thanks
[21:42] <RandyOrt> i'm assuming the windows install program for 10.04 is only for the x86 version, right?
[21:42] <reportingsjr> elnur: yes, it's not about the cpu, but the architecture of the cpu. amd64 is 64-bit, as is x86-64
[21:42] <prof87> i have a problem with totem plugin of youtube...it said me that i have to verify if i have installated the last versione of gdata..thanks
[21:42] <Stavros> acicula: but burning it, rebooting, etc will :/
[21:42] <joneskoo> amereservant: I'm not sure if software raid is that compatible either
[21:42] <Twiple> OK, I want to dual boot ubuntu with windows on my EeePC, what precautions should I take?
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> armence: If they are members of different groups there is really no logical way that i could think of that ubuntu would know which one to set to a specific file.
[21:42] <joneskoo> amereservant: of course if you have hardware raid, sure.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> artveee: You can use zsync to just download the changes / parts with errors.
[21:42] <sebsebseb> RandyOrt: Wubi is ok for  trying Ubuntu, but not that good in the long run,  for example a pshyical install is likely to work a bit faster
[21:42] <selofi> holas!
[21:42] <reportingsjr> Twiple: you have to install windows first, then you can easily dual boot when installing ubuntu.
[21:42] <Stavros> has anyone tried btrfs at all?
[21:42] <abountu> LinuxGuy2009, ok, I created the new user, but how can I make Ubuntu log on straight to this user, instead of the current user
[21:43] <Dr-Ubuntu> no idea what i installed tbh i just got the 1 from update manager -d
[21:43] <RandyOrt> sebsebseb: yeah... i'm grabbing the x64 version right now via usenet
[21:43] <sebsebseb> Stavros: btrfs is not stable,  that will be another year or so yet
[21:43] <s3r3n1t7> axolote, Ubottu is a bot, he won't answer you. However, the CD's or DVD's you download and burn on a disc will let you boot into a live env.
[21:43] <reportingsjr> Twiple: windows can not dual boot and will over write anything else on the hard drive.
[21:43] <Guest64581> is there a newer version for the xorg with 10.04?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Stavros
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone
[21:43] <Twiple> windows came preinstalled
[21:43] <polleri> Hi i just did a clean new install of Ubuntu 10.10 and the terminal auto complition is not working anymore can someone help? sorry for my english
[21:43] <Twiple> but I want to clonezilla it
[21:43] <acicula> Guest64581: yes
[21:43] <amereservant> joneskoo: Yeah, the past three mobos I've bought had fake raid via onboard chipset and have all worked fine when switching between Windows/Linux.
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Guest64581, yes
[21:43] <Twiple> but I am terrified
[21:43] <selofi> alguien  habla español?
[21:43] <reportingsjr> Twiple: you should be fine, but make sure you leave some room for windows. :)
[21:43] <Guest64581> thanks, lets hope it works better with flash & ati cards
[21:43] <joaopinto> !es | selofi
[21:43] <Mean_Admin> so I'm slowly losing; under 9.04, wifi worked like it cared. I upgraded to 9.10, wifi works no more. I leaped to 10 and it still doesn't work.. the wireless NIC is "unclaimed" it seems
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !es | selofi
[21:43] <bencc> what is the command to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[21:43] <Twiple> what is clonezilla's computer wrecking potential?
[21:43] <Stavros> sebsebseb: sure, but it might be good to try out on a portable disk or something if it's easy to install in ubuntu...
[21:43] <reportingsjr> acicula: do you know what version of Xorg?
[21:43] <Guest64581> bencc: start ur update manager
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: System-Admin-Login screen
[21:43] <elnur> acicula, reportingsjr, aha. i thought that amd64 is only for amd cpus
[21:43] <reportingsjr> bencc: sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:43] <acicula> reportingsjr: just look at the package
[21:44] <reportingsjr> elnur: nope, just named that
[21:44] <s3r3n1t7> !upgrade | bencc
[21:44] <acicula> elnur: amd64 is the instruction set, which intel also implements
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Stavros: Ubuntu no, but  Fedora 13 will  have experimental support for it
[21:44] <bencc> thanks
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> !64bit
[21:44] <Exposure752> hello there
[21:44] <acicula> elnur: as a whole its referred to as x86_64
[21:44] <Stavros> sebsebseb: oh, interesting, thanks
[21:44] <reportingsjr> acicula: where can I find a package list/repo for 10.04?
[21:44] <abountu> LinuxGuy2009, thanks a lot
[21:44] <acicula> reportingsjr: pacakges.ubuntu.com
[21:44] <joneskoo> amereservant: it's perhaps different with a desktop. my solution is typically a network filesystem (samba, nfs). in that case LVM is great for managing the disk pool
[21:44] <ShibaKun> Ken8521: yes, I know about the community port.  There was in fact a 9.10 release that I'm using right now.
[21:44] <Mean_Admin> ah damn! it's OUT!? I just downloaded the ''unstable'' version this morning
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> abountu: your selcome
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Stavros:  Fedora 13 I  think already has it in development version
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> w*
[21:45] <s3r3n1t7> Mean_Admin, yeah it's out
[21:45] <polleri> can someone help me to get Terminal autocomplition working please? i just upgraded to 10.04 and it doesn't work anymore
[21:45] <ShibaKun> Ken8521: so I guess what you're saying is that there may well be such a port, but it isn't released with official releases
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> !language | Mean_Admin
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Stavros: not much point testing a file system really untill stable, unless your a file system developer
[21:45] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, well, according to ubottu the last PowerPC release was 7.10... so i'm not sure where you got 9.10.. not from anonical
[21:45] <Ken8521> ShibaKun, thats exactly what i'm saying
[21:45] <sl0sh> 'unstable' is teh same as 'stable' now...
[21:45] <A71KR117> Does anyone see any performance changes when using the FGLRX driver instead of the radeon one?
[21:45] <Mean_Admin> is it even worth I try to upgrade to stable version ?
[21:45] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: Where is your sense of adventure?
[21:45] <amereservant> joneskoo: Ohh, yeah, that would be a different story.  I can definitely see where LVM would be really nice for that.  It's somewhat the same concept of cloud servers, expand when you need without a major overhaul.
[21:46] <acicula> Mean_Admin: yeah
[21:46] <acicula> Mean_Admin: the difference will be marginal
[21:46] <Andorin> Does anybody know whether the version of Empathy included in Lucid supports connecting to XMPP servers besides Google Talk and Jabber? I asked in their IRC but nobody's talking.
[21:46] <LinuxGuy2009> A71KR117: Whats your real question?
[21:46] <elnur> reportingsjr, acicula, ok. got it. thanks
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: oh I have it, I test software when in development here and there.   done Lucid since alpha 1  like this.
[21:46] <Twiple> where can I go for help with clonezilla?
[21:46] <A71KR117> LinuxGuy2009: Is it any better?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: did karmic etc
[21:46] <amereservant> Although I still haven't fully grasped how cloud servers work as in what role they all play together.
[21:46] <Kills> my hifi is still playing at the same time with my laptop speakers when its conencted
[21:46] <joneskoo> amereservant: for a server it's nice if you can partition first for a minimal install size and then extend the free space as REQUIRED, so you don't have to guess
[21:46] <s3r3n1t7> !sound | Kills
[21:46] <sebsebseb> amereservant: the cloud basically so you upload data to a server, and can access it from any Internet connected computer
[21:47] <joneskoo> amereservant: if you need more space, sure. lvextend and resize2fs or something and boom, you have more space without any downtime
[21:47] <sebsebseb> amereservant: of course cloud servers aren't perfect,  servers can go down,  plus there are privacy issues
[21:47] <porter1> Andorin, I bleieve so
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> !opinion | A71KR117
[21:47] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: Yes, but there you aren't risking your data! btrfs is where the real adrenaline junkies are at.
[21:47] <strange> !controls
[21:47] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: that's probably true yes
[21:48] <polleri> HOw can I enable terminal autocomplition on lucid ?
[21:48] <ShibaKun> tab?
[21:48] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Are they synced or does each one have it's own role and specific data to serve?
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !tab | polleri
[21:48] <plenty> Hi, I need help...
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: tab
[21:48] <sebsebseb> !ask | plenty
[21:48] <frybye> re: how to I change the default soundcard in lucid???
[21:48] <ShibaKun> plenty: I need help too.
[21:48] <ShibaKun> go see a doctor :)
[21:49] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i know i use the terminal all the time but I just changed to Lucid and it doesn't work anymore
[21:49] <ddrj> i'm having problems getting audio over hdmi to work with my geforce 210 video card. i followed this guide but my video card's not showing up in alsamixer: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_set_up_HDMI_audio_on_nVidia_GeForce_G210,_GT220,_or_GT240
[21:49] <frybye> when running alsamixer it always starts with the wrong one - and there is in fact no sound avail.
[21:49] <lightbricko> Is it possible to connect to a SharedView server from Ubuntu?
[21:49] <ddrj> i have the nvidia 185 drvers
[21:49] <amereservant> sebsebseb: For instance, say I have two computers in the cloud and want to run an Apache server (overkill I know, just an example), which server runs the apache server and who holds the data?
[21:49] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i doesn't work after sudo; apt-get; aptitude none of those commands
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | ShibaKun
[21:49] <fwryan> I have a server running Ubuntu 8.04, is it advisable to upgrade to 10.04... or should I wait until the traffic dies down?
[21:49] <axolote> @ s3r3n1t7, Oops. I didn't realize that was a bot. If I may, another question. Can I boot into a live environment if I install onto a USB stick also? I did that with unetbootin (selecting the .iso I downloaded) and I get nothing but a black screen after the boot splash.
[21:49] <ShibaKun> LinuxGuy2009: I was jokingly referring to the other guy's post, I don't need help :)
[21:50] <joneskoo> fwryan: I'd wait a day or two
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: uhmm setting up your own cloud servers, is  off topic for  this channel,  plus above the knowledge of most Ubuntu users
[21:50] <plenty> How can I carry my boot options from a LiveCD over to the installation?
[21:50] <Guest64581> should i close every other program when upgrading from karmic to 10.04, or they can keep running?
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> fwryan, if it's a production server, you might want to wait up 10.04.1 even
[21:50] <stephen_netbook> hi all
[21:50] <joaopinto> axolote, yes, you can boot from a liveusb
[21:50] <stephen_netbook> is there a specific room for ubuntu netbook?
[21:50] <amereservant> sebsebseb: Alright.  Thanks anyways.
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: well unless in Ubuntu I guess
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> stephen_netbook, nope, this one
[21:50] <jdtm> welp, im going to the store to pickup more cd-r's and im gonna try the alternate install cd. if that dont work im just gonna give up and stick with windows
[21:50] <sebsebseb> amereservant: where to send you if anywhere,  #ubuntu-offtopic is probably useless for your cloud questions.   #ubuntu-server for the server edition and uhmmm the one channel maybe
[21:50] <fwryan> joneskoo: it's a test server, not used for anything -- but I'm concerned if the download fails I'll be in trouble
[21:50] <polleri> sebsebseb, I doesn't work on Lucid for some reason; I doesn't work after comands like sudo, aptitude etc
[21:50] <sebsebseb> !one | amereservant
[21:50] <s3r3n1t7> axolote, yes you can, it should work just fine. i haven't tried the latest version (that came out today) tho.
[21:51] <uLinux> lol adobe flash player doesnt work..
[21:51] <BitProcessor> can't install - blank screen right after the Ubuntu logo with the moving dots... :-(
[21:51] <plenty> How can I carry my boot options from a LiveCD over to the installation?
[21:51] <uLinux> BitProcessor dont install it
[21:51] <uLinux> karmic is better
[21:51] <stephen_netbook> ok, well i have it installed and its working great, apart from one thing D: , I am not able to access my wifi and my usb plug and play device is not working
[21:51] <sebsebseb> plenty: you can't unless you make your own ISO
[21:51] <axolote> @s3r3n1t7  Okay, I'll keep trying.  Thank you for your help.
[21:51] <BitProcessor> uLinux : don't install it ?
[21:51] <andy112233> Hi there. Third try: Why might 10.04 not recognize my USB storage devices (hard drive/USB-stick) but recognize my USB-printer? (karmic recognized all devices). Please help anyone. :-(
[21:51] <BitProcessor> did I miss something ?
[21:51] <zerocool> does shuttleworth speak afrikaans
[21:51] <plenty> sebsebseb, it worked on Hardy and Intrepid...
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !flash | uLinux
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !remaster | plenty
[21:52] <uLinux> firefox isnt installing flash
[21:52] <kopfweh> is there a boot spash on lucid server or is it just me?
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009> !UCK | plenty
[21:52] <librano> What is the release party channel?
[21:52] <Twiple> Can someone here help me with Clonezilla?
[21:52] <reportingsjr> andy112233: is there nothing listed under places as your usb flash drive?
[21:52] <zerocool> does shuttleworth speak afrikaans
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> kopfweh, it's called Plymouth
[21:52] <joaopinto> uLinux, flash works fine here
[21:52] <BitProcessor> uLinux : why shouldn't I install it ?
[21:52] <joaopinto> !flash | uLinux
[21:52] <axolote> librano: #ubuntu-release-party
[21:52] <sebsebseb> zerocool: probably and that's off topic
[21:52] <uLinux> joaopinto aki n
[21:52] <LinuxGuy2009> librano: Lucid is here!
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !ot | zerocool
[21:52] <chadi> are the google chrome bookmarks in /home?
[21:53] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Yes. Nothing.
[21:53] <joaopinto> uLinux, please stop commenting about quality when you don't have any experience, flash is installed from the repositories, not from firefox
[21:53] <sebsebseb> zerocool: by the way there's an oppertunity to ask him next week
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> kopfweh, why it's needed on server is beyond me - something about mountall or something
[21:53] <joaopinto> !pt | uLinux
[21:53] <tat-> chadi: yes, ~/.config/chromium, i think
[21:53] <sebsebseb> !openweek | zerocool
[21:53] <spvensko> uLinux, flash seems to be working for me
[21:53] <uLinux> not for me
[21:53] <reportingsjr> andy112233: can you pastebin (http://pastebin.ca) the results when you open a terminal (under applications>accesories) and run the command lsusb
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009>  chadi: Probably, you can also use bookmark sync for suncing between machines.
[21:53] <andy112233> Automount is active in gconf-editor under nautilus.
[21:53] <chadi> tat- ty, coz I want to do a clean install of lucid, i want my stuff to remain
[21:53] <andy112233> Moment.
[21:54] <BitProcessor> blank screen when trying to install (after the screen with ubuntu logo and dots) - system freezes
[21:54] <pdtpatrick> @gstock dndn
[21:54] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I realized i don't have a bashrc file. is there a way of making the terminal create one?
[21:54] <stephen_netbook> anyone got any clue why wifi is not working on my netbook but LAN is?#
[21:54] <sebsebseb> !home | chadi
[21:54] <kopfweh> i use the server only with ssh aaaaaaannnd if it doesnt boot when there is a problem with a nonsystem disk its really bad
[21:54] <chadi> LinuxGuy2009 if they remain in home, no problem
[21:54] <BitProcessor> tries running with nomodeset, noacpti etc... no luck
[21:54] <axolote> bitprocessor: same here.
[21:54] <chazco> When does Ubuntu 9.10 reach it's end of life (e.g. no more updates)?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> chadi: yes some where in home I guess is where chrome stores it's bookmarks
[21:54] <BitProcessor> axolote : what graphics are you using ?
[21:54] <chadi> sebsebseb /home is already a partition on its own
[21:54] <sebsebseb> chazco: April next year, just like 8.04 on the desktop
[21:54] <Tohuw> !updates | chazco
[21:55] <Tohuw> errm
[21:55] <uLinux> !regression
[21:55] <barbarella> polleri:you can copy it from root
[21:55] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[21:55] <toyman61> How to update from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 ?
[21:55] <kallisto> help: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 Error 15: File not found
[21:55] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | toyman61
[21:55] <joaopinto> kopfweh, you can set it up so it boots with missing filesystems, a server admin is supposed to understand how to do it :)
[21:55] <tat-> toyman61: sudo do-release-upgrade in a terminal
[21:55] <chazco> sebsebseb - Ah okay, so i'm okay until then. Thanks :)
[21:55] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: how does pastebin work? Sorry. IRC-newbie.
[21:55] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: Make sure your home folder has the correct permission set for the whole folder?
[21:55] <uLinux> How can I downgrade from Lucid to Karmic
[21:55] <chadi> sebsebseb Now I want to format the karmic partition and do a clean install of lucid, but I have to link my /home partition to it... hope i find out how to do it during the installation
[21:55] <sebsebseb> chazco: yep :) and yep 9.10 is better than 10.04 in certain ways :D
[21:55] <tat-> uLinux: reinstall
[21:55] <joaopinto> uLinux, reinstalling
[21:55] <Tohuw> !eol | chazco
[21:55] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, how can I do that?
[21:55] <reportingsjr> andy112233: hmm, go to http://pastebin.com. It looks like .ca is down.  Just paste what was outputted in to the big box and hit submit then give me the link. :)
[21:56] <joaopinto> chadi, you can install over the existing partition without removing your /home
[21:56] <chazco> Thanks Tohuw :)
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> !downgrade
[21:56] <uLinux> i dont want to lose anything
[21:56] <kopfweh> yah i know how but im confused that this isnt a standard setting
[21:56] <toyman61> tat-, :  Thanx!!
[21:56] <joaopinto> uLinux, so backup your data and then reinstall
[21:56] <Kills> the link didint help
[21:56] <uLinux> ahahahaha
[21:56] <chazco> sebsebseb - Tell me about it... best version I ever used was 7.04 (i think).
[21:56] <StuckMojo> why does the offical site make it so hard to find things like release notes?
[21:56] <uLinux> are you kidding me
[21:56] <StuckMojo> i want to see specifically what's new in 10.04
[21:56] <`ph8> .23
[21:56] <chadi> joaopinto yeah, but don't I need to link it to /home?
[21:56] <uLinux> backing up hundreds of gb
[21:56] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[21:56] <sebsebseb> chazco: best one I used was 8.10  (even though ethernet didn't just work on other computer, but that one also needs a driver in XP before it works)
[21:57] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: ALT+F2, gksudo nautilus and right clicking /home/<username>, and verify that you are the owner of the whole folder.
[21:57] <bastid_raZor> !notes | StuckMojo
[21:57] <sebsebseb> chazco: sadly 8.10 goes end of life tommorwo
[21:57] <sebsebseb> tommorow
[21:57] <joaopinto> chadi, no, if it's already installed on the filesystem you just need to make sure you dont select to format the partition
[21:57] <sl0sh> tman_ try an older kernel
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> tman_, you should try booting with noacpi or noapic
[21:57] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Ups... made it public. The link is http://pastebin.com/hdW4KMJQ
[21:57] <StuckMojo> bastid_raZor: thx
[21:57] <chadi> joaopinto great news :-)
[21:57] <reportingsjr> andy112233: haha, doesn't matter if it is publice
[21:57] <frybye> Hi with lucid an fi-x extreem audio sound card all appears to be set correctly but still no sound - any ideas??
[21:57] <BitProcessor> tman, I get the ubuntu logo with the moving dots, but blank screen after that
[21:57] <chazco> sebsebseb - Ah well, hopefully they'll return to that sort of release.
 i love ubuntu so much, I want to take it behind school and make it pregnant
[21:57] <ZykoticK9> BitProcessor,  you should try booting with noacpi or noapic
[21:57] <mezy> I have just installed 10.04 LTS through Wubi but for some reason I cannot boot into Ubuntu.
[21:57] <sebsebseb> chazco: it doesn't seem like it,  they are doing more stuff  now that isn't  upstream when it comes to Gnome, and they want to make things more like Mac OS X
[21:58] <toyman61> ubottu, :  Thanx
[21:58] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Okay.... for your info: Have a 4 GB stick and a 500 GB hard drive installed. Neither is recognized.
[21:58] <spvensko> zerocool, are you leet?
[21:58] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[21:58] <Jaymac> why hasn't the ubuntu website been updated with the new branding?
[21:58] <spvensko> zerocool, hack the planet!
[21:58] <tman_> but the cd is still spining in the drive
[21:58] <frybye> any special url for sound problems with --lucid--??
[21:58] <joaopinto> Jaymac, find a canonical related channel to ask that :P
[21:58] <reportingsjr> andy112233: both are currently plugged in?  Your 4gb flash drive is recognized, but your 500 gig is not.
[21:58] <tman_> and i have no errors before this happens
[21:58] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I am the owner it is fine
[21:58] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[21:58] <reportingsjr> andy112233: pastebin the results of running dmesg please.
[21:58] <`ph8> hi all - i've just updated to lucid, xchat suddenly says "you must send your password first!" when i'm trying to connect to my bouncer, i've been using it for a long time - the format is /server host +port username:password
[21:58] <sebsebseb> mezy: is Windows on C?
[21:58] <tman_> but the cd is still spining in the drive
[21:58] <`ph8> any idea why this wouldn't work in newxchat?
[21:58] <tman_> and i have no errors before this happens
[21:59] <mezy> sebsebseb: Yes.
[21:59] <sebsebseb> mezy: ok  well don't know then
[21:59] <andy112233> @reportingsjr:  Yes. Both are plugged in. I'll check again.
[21:59] <reportingsjr> `ph8: you may want to ask in the xchat channel. Probably something to do with a new version of xchat.
[21:59] <tman_> my other os crunchbang is working fine with my monitor
[21:59] <mezy> That's weird
[21:59] <sebsebseb> mezy: also Wubi is uesaully ok for trying, but in the long run bettter off using, a proper partitioend install
[21:59] <LinuxGuy2009> polleri: So gnome-terminal isnt keeping your command history thats the issue?
[21:59] <jcbv> anyone get compiz working on old nvidia
[21:59] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Yes. Both are. Shell I unplug the hard drive and repaste the lsusb?
[21:59] <prayii> anyone know what the hash code is for the amd64-desktop iso?
[22:00] <reportingsjr> andy112233: no, pastebin the results of running dmesg please.  Leave both plugged in.
[22:00] <`ph8> reportingsjr, silly me, thanks
[22:00] <LinuxGuy2009> jcbv: Perhaps restate that into a question about your experience so we can help you with your experience?
[22:00] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, I have no clue. I just know the autocomplition is not working and i didn't have a .bashrc file in my desktop
[22:00] <sebsebseb> jcbv: I think you need a relitvely new card for Compiz,  new as in uhmmm last few years
[22:00] <reportingsjr> `ph8: heh, I just figure xchat people would know more about it. :)
[22:00] <Berk> just wondering if anyone else is experiencing extremely slow speeds on the torrent?
[22:00] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, i mean home foler sorry
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> prayii, if you mean MD5 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448 *ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Berk: yes others were
[22:00] <sl0sh> i changed the and now i want it back to 'lucid lynx' but there is no such theme :O what to do?
[22:00] <mezy> I am brought to the windows boot manager when booting. It lets me click ubuntu to boot up, but then I am brought to the GRUB boot loader and Windows is the only option to choose from
[22:00] <tman_> i've had 9.10 working on it too with no problems at all.
[22:00] <sebsebseb> sl0sh: you changed what?
[22:00] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[22:01] <sl0sh> heh the theme
[22:01] <elnur> How to change default system in grub from command line?
[22:01] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[22:01] <sl0sh> look and feel of gnome
[22:01] <tman_> i've had 9.10 working on it too with no problems at all.
[22:01] <Berk> sebsebseb: thanks, as i'm being told it will take 5 days :D glad i'm not the only one then
[22:01] <sebsebseb> sl0sh: Ambiance and Radience are the new 10.04 themes
[22:01] <reportingsjr> elnur: you have to edit the order in grub.conf
[22:01] <prayii> ZykoticK9: thank you. For future reference where can I find that? It wasn't listed yet in the wiki
[22:01] <elnur> reportingsjr, no special tools for that?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Berk: I know they say get from torrents blah de blah, but you can try FTP or HTTP instead
[22:02] <REMIX> happy release day every body! can some one help me? what do i type in my terminal to upgrade from my netbook remix 9.10 to 10.04 LTS
[22:02] <reportingsjr> elnur: not really.  The list should be in /boot/grub/menu.lst and you can change them around there. Don't change anything other than order, though.
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> prayii, sorry there was a link posted earlier and i copied all them to a text file - not sure where it is
[22:02] <sl0sh> ok, i remembered it different, but i guess youre right
[22:02] <sl0sh> thanks
[22:02] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: HUGE PASTE @ http://pastebin.com/hdCnUxiV
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Berk: also maybe you need a port open for the torrents in your router?
[22:02] <joaopinto> !grub
[22:02] <reportingsjr> REMIX: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Berk: a port open to speed things up a bit
[22:02] <joaopinto> !grub2
[22:02] <Berk> sebsebseb: i'll carry on with the torrent, and do my best to keep it seeded too, if everyone gives up it'll stay slow
[22:02] <tman_> im having a problem installing ubuntu 10.04 i start booting off the cd i see a purple screen with two icons at the bottom and then my monitor shuts off and just blinks. my specs are amd sempron 1ghz processer w/ 512mb of ram please help:):)
[22:02] <reportingsjr> andy112233: It's fine if it's huge.
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > tman_
[22:02] <tman_> and the green light on the side of my monitor just flashes
[22:02] <Twiple> when backing something up on clonezilla, should I clone the whole disk or just the needed partitions?
[22:03] <sebsebseb> tman_: some sort of plymouth issue by the sounds of it
[22:03] <sebsebseb> tman_: is that an old computer?
[22:03] <votex> hi
[22:03] <polleri> LinuxGuy2009, if i run the terminal as root autocomplition doesn't work either can I uninstall gnome-terminal and intall it again?
[22:03] <Frap> my friend is sad and have loveproblem, what can be done about it?
[22:03] <Berk> i'll leave you ladies and gents to release day carnage, laters
[22:03] <sebsebseb> !ot | Frap
[22:03] <Frap> yes but i dont know where else to ask
[22:03] <Frap> oh
[22:03] <dominicdinada> !bw3
[22:03] <tman_> 4 years old
[22:04] <barbarella> reportingsjr:it depends with grub2 it is /etc/default/grub
[22:04] <dominicdinada> !b43
[22:04] <elnur> reportingsjr, seems like things have changed with grub 2
[22:04] <reportingsjr> andy112233: I'll try to deal with the flash drive first.  Can you check if it is listed in the folder /media/?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> tman_: does it say on the boot up,  Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[22:04] <reportingsjr> barbarella: ah, did not know that. Sorry
[22:04] <emorris> hi, what does the "recommended" option do for partitioning?
[22:04] <Zelozelos> anybody use Gwinwrap?
[22:04] <reportingsjr> elnur: as barbarella said, it's in /etc/default/grub
[22:04] <oyoy> I already had the release candidate for 10.04 installed... will the update manager prompt me about a new version or not now that 10.04 official is out?
[22:04] <sebsebseb> oyoy: you can install the updates yourself to the final
[22:04] <Alienarch> is KDE or gnome better for a server gui?
[22:05] <reportingsjr> oyoy: it should just be like normal upgrades, not a new release.
[22:05] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: It is not.
[22:05] <tman_> no it doesn't say anything its just a purple screen
[22:05] <sebsebseb> Alienarch: for real servers,  neither
[22:05] <kopfweh> server gui?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !server | Alienarch
[22:05] <oyoy> sebsebseb: is that automatic?  i just checked update manager and says no updates are out there.  i had no updates at all today
[22:05] <kopfweh> lol
[22:05] <elnur> reportingsjr, i have missed that because the message was not addressed to me
[22:05] <dominicdinada> blah I cant get the yum package or the b43 fwcutter any ideas with 10.4 ?
[22:05] <Alienarch> yeah well I am too much of a noob, I cant get webmind downloaded on the server to ionstall it lol
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: maybe since the repos aren't working propelry
[22:05] <reportingsjr> elnur: that's why I said it to you. :)
[22:05] <Alienarch> webmin*
[22:05] <oyoy> sebsebseb: ok thanks i'll just wait and try later
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: I think the repos aren't working properly at the moment, since the amount of people doing Lucid
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > Alienarch
[22:05] <sebsebseb> oyoy: you should have been offered a few updates, unless you updated really recently
[22:06] <Zelozelos> im trying to figure out how to have multiple options such as for xmatrix '-small -no-trace -delay 83898' it seems to have an issue with the spaces between each trigger
[22:06] <oyoy> sebsebseb: i updated last night i think
[22:06] <reportingsjr> andy112233: hmm, pastebin sudo blkid (all one command. `sudo blkid`)
[22:06] <Alienarch> oh sweet ebox ok
[22:06] <littlepenguin> 1 hr remaining of installing..
[22:06] <Alienarch> !ebox
[22:06] <pablo_> people please help...
[22:06] <dominicdinada> !fwcutter
[22:06] <jcbv> no compiz in here or what
[22:06] <sebsebseb> !ask  | pablo_
[22:06] <pablo_> how acces to mi files from other sistem
[22:06] <Zelozelos> each trigger works, they all work in a terminal, but if i enter a triger into the options space and have a space after it, it hangs
[22:06] <sebsebseb> pablo_: What does the other system run Windows?
[22:06] <pablo_> my files are encript
[22:07] <pablo_> sebsebseb, no
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: oh encryptin hrm
[22:07] <pablo_> other ubuntu
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: encryption can go wrong etc  well if you use the Ubuntu One
[22:07] <dominicdinada> Anyone get fwcutter on 10.4 yet ?
[22:07] <sebsebseb> pablo_: Ubuntu encryption, not that Ubuntu cloud software
[22:07] <pablo_> sebsebseb, i am in ubuntu 9.10
[22:07] <j800r> the ubuntu 10.4 theme is awesome!
[22:07] <pablo_> i want acces to my files
[22:07] <sebsebseb> j800r: no it isn't
[22:07] <pablo_> but this are encrypt
[22:07] <pablo_> :S
[22:08] <sebsebseb> j800r: The old brown human theme before 9.10, so a bit of orange as well,  for the win, seriously!
[22:08] <j800r> are you serious??
[22:08] <sonja> someone traineed in the application "wine"?
[22:08] <j800r> the human theme was bloody aweful, lol
[22:08] <sebsebseb> j800r: indeed as an expereinced user since second release in 2005, that for me is the Ubuntu look,  none of this newer junkw
[22:08] <andy112233> @reportingsjr: Paste is at http://pastebin.com/5bBvQwDs. I am actually trying to connect other devices. So far each one's listed in lsusb, none's mounted.
[22:08] <lightbricko> Can I set the default remote desktop viewer (vinagre) to listen-mode?
[22:09] <j800r> sebsebseb, if you're afraid of change, go back to an earlier release lol
[22:09] <sebsebseb> !vnc > lightbricko
[22:09] <elnur> reportingsjr, changed it. thank you :)
[22:09] <j800r> personally, i love it, and i'm sure i'm probs not the only one
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> For those wanting the old theme simply install - human-theme
[22:09] <sebsebseb> j800r: no, since can use the older theme on Lucid :)
[22:09] <reportingsjr> elnur: any time :)
[22:09] <sebsebseb> j800r: once installed from repo
[22:09] <j800r> lol, your mad :P
[22:09] <j800r> *you're
[22:09] <sonja> someone traineed in wine???
[22:09] <j800r> to each their own bud
[22:10] <sebsebseb> j800r: also a lot of the 10.04 changes are sucky really for expereinced users such as myself, but for other people they are good.  I mean top right panel changes that kind of thing.   Ubuntu on other computer,  another distro on this one these days.  anyway off topic
[22:10] <Cinnabelle> Hey everyone~ I just installed 10.04 and so far, it hangs after running for a few minutes and I have to restart.
[22:10] <lightbricko> thanks sebsebseb!
[22:10] <sonja> ok,bye
[22:10] <thevor> Hey. has anyone updated from 9.10 to 10.04? Know if it's a bad or good move?
[22:10] <oyoy> sonja: just ask your question...
[22:10] <sebsebseb> thevor: so far no major complaints like  what happended quite a lot, when people upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10
[22:11] <clrg> Cinnabelle: X error messages, dmesg, /var/log/messages.. checked those?
[22:11] <thevor> I mean, should I wipe and reinstall, or can I just update with update maanager?
[22:11] <Spank> hello
[22:11] <madchine> can anybody tell me the name and size(s) og the font in 'Ambiance theme'?
[22:11] <Spank> guys is there any 64bit for intel processor?
[22:11] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I don't know how to do that... :D
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> Spank, AMD64 works for Intel
[22:11] <thevor> @sebsebseb thanks, do you knwo if updating is a safe move? I've wanted to try just updating before, but never know if it's a good move, but I hate wipping and reinstalling.
[22:11] <George_E> Spank: ??
[22:11] <sebsebseb> thevor: so good move I guess, but not such a good idea at the moment, since loads of other people are downloading it, so upgrade will be slow
[22:11] <Spank> are you sure?
[22:11] <clrg> Cinnabelle: Type "dmesg | grep -i err | tail" or so
[22:11] <thevor> @sebsebseb ok cool thanks.
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> Spank, yes
[22:12] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ookay.  Try this! `mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/I`
[22:12] <Spank> so i better download the 64 bit
[22:12] <Spank> thanks
[22:12] <thevor> @sebsebseb so when I do want to update, I can just run update manager, and it will install 10.04 right?
[22:12] <Kills> any1 how do I make my speakers stop working after when i connecdt my headphones?
[22:12] <j800r> i upgraded to 10.04 just now from 9.10. gonna burn a live cd of 10.04 though and install that. cause i don't live upgrading to major new releases
[22:12] <sebsebseb> thevor: I plan to upgrade other computer on Saturday, the repo's will probably be alright then, but maybe not
[22:12] <Kills> on a laptop
[22:12] <ZykoticK9> !update > thevor
[22:12] <barbarella> thevor:http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[22:12] <strange> after installing nvidia driver (from nvidia ppa) my terminal resolution is very low (ctrl+alt+F1-F9) anyone know where to change the resolution for that?
[22:12] <thevor> @barbarella thanks
[22:12] <thevor> you too ubottu
[22:12] <sebsebseb> thevor: I think at the moment, they are having issues, but not sure exactly
[22:13] <elnur> After trying to boot windows, now i can't boot my ubuntu and I get grub rescue> command prompt.
[22:13] <sebsebseb> !thanks | thevor
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> strange, that's normal - affects Plymouth as well
[22:13] <thevor> oh i know it's a bot.
[22:13] <Flamey> What's this Retrieving file 17 of 28 in ubiquity?
[22:13] <thevor> just seemed like the polite thing to do
[22:13] <sebsebseb> elnur: clean install or upgrade?
[22:13] <morrowyn> hi, how do i upgrade from 10.04 beta to release?
[22:13] <strange> ZykoticK9: is there a fix? before installing the nvidia driver the resolution is alot higher
[22:13] <sebsebseb> elnur: also it's 10.04 I assume?
[22:13] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I got http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/uWbMEkJT
[22:13] <andy112233> reportingsjr: sudo mkdir /media/I | sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/I worked out properly.
[22:13] <elnur> sebsebseb, yea, 10.05
[22:13] <elnur> sebsebseb, clean install
[22:13] <TheAkuma> bitoku ^^
[22:14] <sebsebseb> morrowyn: by installing the updates, but I think rep's are bad at the moment.  also maybe won't get all the features installed properly, since it was the beta
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> strange, probably NOT worth the effort - but you can use VESA frame buffer -- http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/plymouth-resolution
[22:14] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | elnur
[22:14] <reportingsjr> andy112233: and can you now access your flash drive?
[22:14] <s3r3n1t7> !slow | sebsebseb ;-)
[22:14] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: yes I know that factoid exists :D
[22:14] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: used it earlier
[22:14] <s3r3n1t7> sebsebseb, i'm lovin it!
[22:14] <faruk> http://shiftdelete.net/ubuntu-10.04-cikti-20203.html
[22:14] <clrg> Cinnabelle: Nothing interesting so far. Could you do a "dmesg | tail -n 150"?
[22:15] <sebsebseb> s3r3n1t7: the factoid or 10.04?
[22:15] <s3r3n1t7> sebsebseb, both
[22:15] <andy112233> reportingsjr: With "worked properly", I implied "yes, I can access it (read-only)." :-)
[22:15] <strange> ZykoticK9: i did that already it only makes the grub menu high res, not the console as a whole
[22:15] <phil123> hi there... will Ubuntu 10.04 RC automatically upgrade to the final version next days?
[22:15] <madchine> anybody? the name and size of the font in the new ambiance theme? i already managed to fuck it up.... :(
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> strange, no idea then sorry
[22:15] <sebsebseb> phil123: no
[22:15] <sebsebseb> phil123: you have to do it yourself
[22:15] <strange> ZykoticK9: k thx anyways
[22:16] <Seeker`> !language | madchine
[22:16] <reportingsjr> andy112233: might be read only because you had to mount with sudo.  Not sure there, sorry.
[22:16] <Cinnabelle> clrg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/JXznSm1T
[22:16] <madchine> sorry
[22:16] <LinuxGuy2009> phil123: if you have all updates installed right now, then you have the final.
[22:16] <KEFIR> I've downloaded alternate cd, running update with gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade, but in the middle of getting packages from the .iso updater still trying to connect to the internet and show an error about that. is that normal?
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> !final > phil123
[22:16] <reportingsjr> andy112233: now, for that 500 gig.  Can you unplug it, plug it back in, and then pastebin `dmesg | tail -n 150`.
[22:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !final
[22:16] <BrokenTrace> Ok here is another problem. Trying to upgrade to lucid from karmic and I would get the error " Could Not Calculate the upgrade". I removed a few PPAs then it failed again. Searehed the logs and it says "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". Synaptic package manager does not show and borpen packages
[22:16] <votex> Kills : Please check your handset, try putting a different one. OR could be problem with the pins.
[22:17] <andy112233> reportingsjr: I have quite a few devices. Have you any clue why lucid won't automount?
[22:17] <phil123> !final
[22:17] <barbarella> andy112233:i think you have a bad partition if sudo doesn;t work
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BrokenTrace: uhmmm  not a good idea to upgrade at the moment, since things may be slow
[22:17] <s3r3n1t7> KEFIR, if you've updated while connected to the internet and the package you're trying to get has released a new update in the repo's it will still download it from the repo's and not the alternate CD, since it's outdated on that package.
[22:17] <reportingsjr> andy112233: no, not sure what exactly is wrong. =\
[22:17] <BluesKaj> hmm, the upgrade to lucid was an anticlimax in my case...guess I was already there before the so called official release
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BrokenTrace: since the amount of other people doing it
[22:17] <phil123> ok thx @ all
[22:17] <reportingsjr> andy112233: and you say versions before lucid automounted fine?
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: ppa's get disabled on upgrade I think
[22:17] <BrokenTrace> sebsebseb: Maybe Ill wait :D
[22:17] <Mohammad[B]> how i can upgrade ubuntu 10.04 rc to latest release ?
[22:17] <j800r> sebsebseb, tell me about it. upgrade/update servers were slowed to a crawl earlier lol
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> !final > Mohammad[B]
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Mohammad[B]: by instaling the updates like you do for security updates,  but may get issues with that at the moment,  since the amount of people wanting Lucid
[22:18] <crk> hey, Im sure someone else must've reported this as well, but there's no Seeders on the Ubuntu-10.04-i386-DVD torrent
[22:18] <j800r> i should've just downloaded the ISO in the first place
[22:18] <clrg> Cinnabelle: I can't find anything suspicious. Have you tried googling the error? Also, your graphics card seems to be quite old (64MB VRAM..)
[22:18] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, disabled ? what ppas ?
[22:18] <pmichael> I don't get it - boot 10.4 install CD and it wants a login?  I haven't installed yet
[22:18] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: I thought thye mentioned ppa's
[22:18] <crk> everyone's stuck at around 4 %
[22:18] <sebsebseb> crk: heh heh
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> pmichael, tried Ubuntu as user with no password?
[22:18] <Cinnabelle> clrg: It really is. :D My whole computer really~
[22:19] <Cinnabelle> clrg: I guess I'll go to google~ <3 Thanks for trying to help.
[22:19] <reportingsjr> ZykoticK9: I think it may be ubuntu for both username and password?
[22:19] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Yes. koala did excellently. lucid crashed while installing so I had to install from the live-version. grub had to be fixed first but then everything seemed to work fine (except automount). I included my internal drives into fstab, but really need automount for my external drives.
[22:19] <KEFIR> s3r3n1t7, I even tried to pull my internet cable out, how do updater realize files are outdated? how to turn off this?
[22:19] <pmichael> ZykoticK9: tried that - can't even find any instructions for installing - why would it be so different?
[22:19] <mezimezim> I have been using aptitude to do updates, is it OK to use the update manager to switch to 10.04 (I assume it uses apt-get) - might I encounter dependencies problems?
[22:19] <BluesKaj> sebsebseb, i don't have any ppas in my sources.list
[22:19] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, this is dont have any updates :-s
[22:19] <s3r3n1t7> KEFIR, I"m not sure if you can to be honest. Some patience is probably best, or try switching a mirror
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> reportingsjr, my only uncertainty is Ubuntu or ubuntu - but it's no password for sure (unless it's changed in 10.04)
[22:19] <s3r3n1t7> !mirrors | KEFIR
[22:19] <clrg> Cinnabelle: I'm sorry I can't help you more, but I'm not a graphics specialist :)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Mohammad[B], then you're at Final
[22:20] <j800r> people have been having problems installing 10.04? upgrade smooth as hell for me? o.0
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, http://paste.ubuntu.com/424846/
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, please see that
[22:20] <j800r> *minus ?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> I have done it again BluesKaj   I was meant to message BrokenTrace
[22:20] <KEFIR> I got alternate from mirrors
[22:20] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, is this ok ?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, doesn't show anything you didn't just say - looks like you're up-to-date
[22:20] <gabriel> has the question about slightly blurry fonts in apps in lucid been answered already?
[22:20] <MohammadAG> ?
[22:20] <kennyt> How often does the mirror list on ubuntu.com regenerate?
[22:20] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:21] <Mohammad[B]> ZykoticK9, thanks :-)
[22:21] <mustafa> is there a way to install sun jdk 6 on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:21] <Mahara> How can I easily switch from a bultin card to a USB-speaker card in Ubuntu 10.04 so that I can playback audio on the USB-speaker
[22:21] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, wrong person :)
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> mustafa, add the partner repo
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, sorry man :)
[22:21] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: so easy to mess up auto complete
[22:21] <KEFIR> okay, it seems I have to update from internet anyway) thanks for help, s3r3n1t7
[22:21] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, no worries :)
[22:21] <MikeChelen> Mahara: look in sound preferences, in the output tab
[22:21] <elnur> anyone knows ho to launch recovery partition on asus k50in notebook?
[22:21] <LinuxGuy2009> Mahara: I have no clue what your asking.Maybe check your terminalogy and come back?
[22:21] <BrokenTrace> heh
[22:22] <genio> after upgrading today, im-switch keeps throwing errors everywhere.  Is this common?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> elnur: I think you want ##windows
[22:22] <mustafa> ZykoticK9 how?
[22:22] <dominicdinada> I have a question can anybody help
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> mustafa, see note on http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[22:22] <RegressLess> Is there a good multi-processor system monitor that makes for good eyecandy?
[22:22] <jmknsd> I have a problem on 9.10, It mounts the DVD-RW as /dev/sr0. It can play CDs and when I boot to windows I can play DVDs. Is there some way to force it to see it as a DVD player?
[22:22] <Xcell> elnur  f9  ?
[22:22] <Alcor> what was party channel name?
[22:22] <K0HAX> awesome, started doing the distro upgrade to 10.04, it was peaking my internet connection, but now it's down to 6000 bytes per second
[22:22] <sebsebseb> akgraner: #ubuntu-release-party
[22:22] <LinuxGuy2009> !ask | dominicdinada
[22:22] <arcade> So, just installed a newer Ubuntu version .. and one of my immediate annoyances is that if I press ctrl+c in an xterm, I see ^C on the line...
[22:22] <pmp6nl> ubuntu-release-party
[22:22] <callaghan> I just set up Ubuntu 10.04, I have a problem with my sound preferences, they look like this: http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1548/screenshotsoundpreferen.png , at the setting in the pic my speakers are veeeery silent, and at the next marker they have max volume. Is there an easy way to fix this?
[22:22] <mustafa> ZykoticK9, thank you.
[22:22] <barbarella> andy112233:try fdisk /dev/yourexternaldrive than the p option. Does it look ok?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> no not akgraner   ,but yes Alcor
[22:23] <pmichael> why would you have to login to install?
[22:23] <Alcor> thx
[22:23] <dominicdinada> LinuxGuy I asked the Question 4 times with not even a hello so I am continuing to ask to get someones attention
[22:23] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:23] <joule> n #ske
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> pmichael, i've see that with older ubuntu installs as well - not sure why it happens
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> WOW lol
[22:23] <pmichael> I'm booting a system with a blank hard disk - booting to the 10.4 i386 CD
[22:23] <elnur> Xcell, nope
[22:23] <Dougdoug4> #ubuntu almost has 2,000 people!
[22:23] <luisico> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu 10.4 and it works like a charm, congratulations
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> Dougdoug4, it was over 2000 earlier
[22:23] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: not right now, but it was earlier or just over
[22:23] <KIAaze> is it just me or does the http://www.soslynx.org/ site (linked to from the ubuntu music store presentation) not work at all?
[22:23] <Xcell> elnur, is that the eee modle  ?
[22:24] <luisico> i've only a question, I've plugged mi ipod touch and nothing happens
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Dougdoug4: or maybe a bit under, I mean there are bots in here as well
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: sorry about that.  I think I have a fix for your solution.
[22:24] <elnur> Xcell, no
[22:24] <Xcell> ok
[22:24] <andy112233> reportingsjr: great. Let me hear. :o)
[22:24] <jon604> Hey guys  setup a SVN with trac, and the trac and SVN get their accounts from the same htpasswd file, but the svn wont let me login while the trac will, any ideas?
[22:24] <luisico> anybody can say if i have to do any tricky thing?
[22:24] <dominicdinada> !bot help
[22:24] <luisico> thanks
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: cd to /lib/udev/rules.d/ and run `mv 85-hdparm.rules 85-hdparm.rules.disabled`
[22:24] <reportingsjr> andy112233: tell me the results when you are done.  That should fix it!
[22:24] <datacrusher> hello everyone, im trying to update from 9.10 to 10.04, but it claims that my / folder gots no enough space. i got / on different partiton than /home, and i dunno what more can i delete to free that space.. any clues?
[22:25] <Dougdoug4> 9 minutes remaining on my 10.04 download
[22:25] <melvster> just upgraded my desktop to lucid lynx, but it's missing the me bar / calendar / login / logout ... can I readd them to the panel?
[22:25] <LinuxGuy2009> datacrusher: how much free space do you have?
[22:25] <datacrusher> i got 24gb
[22:25] <sebsebseb> melvster: what's that about login and log out?
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> melvster, Add to panel - the two Indicator Applets
[22:26] <funkycat90210> windows 7 crashed on me the day lenny is released, that is a sign
[22:26] <melvster> sebsebseb: im missing the icont that normally appear at the right
[22:26] <datacrusher> on df i got 72% used on /, 2469428 free
[22:26] <brzezik> witam
[22:26] <sebsebseb> melvster:  no shut down and log out in system menu,  if you have the me menu  / fusa  on top right enabled,
[22:26] <barbarella> datacrusher: that is one partition?
[22:26] <brzezik> i have a problem with kadu
[22:26] <datacrusher> sorry, i did df -h now
[22:26] <melvster> sebsebseb: i restarted 4 times
[22:26] <harjot> whats the quickest way to very temporarily host php files anywhere, or at least view them in a web browser, as mine dont like it
[22:26] <brzezik> what is the best program?
[22:26] <arcade> Humpfh.  Upgraded my Ubuntu, and now Ubuntu prints ^C in the terminal if I press ctrl+c.  Annoying - how do I turn this 'feature' off?
[22:26] <datacrusher> well, i got 8.9gb on / partition, disp. 2.4 gb
[22:26] <sebsebseb> melvster: most of the stuff on the top right sucks really,  but  most users have no idea
[22:26] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Renamed. Alas, Devices are still not automounted. :-(
[22:27] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:27] <datacrusher> on partition /home i got 39gb used, 17g free
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> !best | brzezik
[22:27] <votex> datacrusher : Try for the computer Janitor..may be he will give you some more space!
[22:27] <datacrusher> my / is /dev/sda2, and my home is /dev/sda4
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> arcade, that's the default behaviour - ctrl+c is quit
[22:27] <harjot> whats the quickest way to very temporarily host php files anywhere, or at least view them in a web browser, as mine dont like it
[22:27] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:27] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you /may/ have to restart, although I am not positive about this.  Simply because udev is more of a core program.  Try restarting and come back here and message me when you have, ok?
[22:27] <playmo> Whats the difference between the alternate and desktop edition?
[22:27] <Dougdoug4> UBUNTU 10.04 GAVE ME HERPES
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !alternate | playmo
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !desktop | playmo
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> playmo, Desktop = LiveCD - alternate is text only install
[22:28] <arcade> ZykoticK9: The default behavior of ctrl+c in an xterm w/bash in unix has always been to print a newline and the prompt again, without any silly ^C at the EOL.
[22:28] <melvster> sebsebseb: thanks, ive been throught the applet options about 10 times, I cant see what to add to get the me bar, or 'start' button or calendar ... any tips?
[22:28] <LinuxGuy2009> harjot: Ubuntu One?
[22:28] <datacrusher> votex, ill get it
[22:28] <andy112233> reportingsjr: I will. Thanks a lot.
[22:28] <jmknsd> I have a problem on 9.10, It mounts the DVD-RW as /dev/sr0. It can play CDs and when I boot to windows I can play DVDs. Is there some way to force it to see it as a DVD player?
[22:28] <harjot> LinuxGuy2009: ?
[22:28] <barbarella> datacrusher:try to remove some log files and temp dirs, but that will only solve it temporary
[22:28] <LinuxGuy2009> !libdvdcss | jmknsd
[22:28] <litropy> Hi, peeps. The graphics card on the Intel Atom n270 supports better than VESA, right?
[22:28] <playmo> ZykoticK9, So i can use the alternate to do a normal install?
[22:29] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install
[22:29] <sebsebseb> melvster: what's missing exactly the me menu? and   their edited fast user account switcher applet?
[22:29] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I have that installed and set up
[22:29] <detrix> I have Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty), I do not want to upgrade, but I do want to get the latest version of firefox (3.6)  how do I get Jaunty to do this?
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> playmo, "normal" sorta - it's text only, where the "normal" is GUI
[22:29] <LinuxGuy2009> !multibuntu | jmknsd:
[22:29] <dominicdinada> I need help with the b43 fwcutter it is not allowing me to apt-get install in 10.4 why is this
[22:29] <arcade> ZykoticK9: So, how do I turn off this nice printing of ctrl+c ?
[22:29] <genio> my locale is set properly, but im-switch is all messed up.  what is im-switch even for?
[22:29] <LinuxGuy2009> !medibuntu | jmknsd
[22:29] <playmo> So the alternate does not have GNOME ?
[22:29] <melvster> sebsebseb: yes the me menu is missing, and the old applet that showed my user logged in, that lets me restart etc., and the calendar
[22:29] <datacrusher> what does janitor do? it removes only trash or it will remove my installed packages?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok got shut down and log out in the system menu?
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> my pc got both dvd-rom and cd-burner
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> cd-burner is not recognized
[22:30] <ZykoticK9> arcade, no idea man - all i have to say is CTRL+C works differently on my system(s) then yours, my ctrl+c quits stuff
[22:30] <CalifGuy_> how to fix it?
[22:30] <melvster> sebsebseb: yes logout and switch user are the only 2 options
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !alternate | playmo
[22:30] <Twiple> OK, I have a question about dual booting
[22:30] <aquachica> Has anyone upgraded their netbook wtih the Netbook Edition?
[22:30] <AskNick> Anybody have 10.4 running on a Tablet PC? Having trouble with cursor in tablet mode.
[22:30] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I don't think the restricted formats are the problems, I think the problem is it loading the DVD is SCSI or something similar
[22:30] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I cannot even pull the data off of the DVD
[22:30] <Twiple> last time a tried dual booting, I messed it up badly, GRUB would not boot windows
[22:30] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Ctrl+C sends a signal if you have a running application in the foreground.  It also gives you a nice new line, if you - for example - has written half of a command but then remember that you forgot another command in front.  You press ctrl+c, get a new line without executing the previous line (but with the entire line visible right above).
[22:31] <Twiple> how can I avoid this?
[22:31] <arcade> ZykoticK9: This nice little ^C at the EOL makes cut and pasting a pain.
[22:31] <LinuxGuy2009>  jmknsd: Commercial DVDs wont play thats your issue?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Twiple: With 10.04 RC?
[22:31] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok good, well that's how it is meant to be according to  upstream Gnome, but starting with Ubuntu 9.04,  Canonical decided to mess with that, whilst having the edited fast user account swither enabled on  the top right.  So even  though even though those changes aren't upstream I guess you still want them, well I have an idea that may fix it.
[22:31] <archy008> is it safe to update from 9.10? any particular caveats so far?
[22:31] <litropy> Hi, peeps. The graphics card on the Intel Atom n270 supports better than VESA, right?
[22:31] <Twiple> I was thinking 10.04 normal
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> arcade, i'm guilty of accidentally trying to copy with ctrl+c in terminal too oftern, and i see the ^C
[22:31] <acicula> litropy, it should yeah
[22:31] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, that is part of the problem, but even when I try and simply copy from the dvd it will error
[22:32] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Try just running "sudo update-grub"
[22:32] <arcade> ZykoticK9: Right.  I want the ugly ^C turned off. :)
[22:32] <Twiple> ok
[22:32] <melvster> sebsebseb: right now i have no obvious option on how to turn my computer off, or restart, or suspend, apart from hitting the power switch ...
[22:32] <LinuxGuy2009>  jmknsd: libdvdcss is required and I would recomend restricted extras.
[22:32] <LinuxGuy2009> !DVD
[22:32] <ZykoticK9> arcade, if you find an answer feel free to share it with me :)  Good luck man.
[22:32] <sebsebseb> melvster: personally I would remove most stuff on the top right,  well for my useage, my littel brother to young for Facebook,  but  I am going to let my older brother have the features, since he uses Facebook a lot anyway.   You should be able to log out and shut down from the system menu, by the sounds of it.
[22:33] <datacrusher> barbarella, can i do a /var/log clenup?
[22:33] <datacrusher> wont mess arround?
[22:33] <zui> Hello. I started up Microsoft Word 2007 in wine today and it logged me out. Latest wine (from wine repo) and Ubuntu 9.10. I had been using Word 2007 perfectly since the past 6 months. A google search didn't return any solutions except people complaining that it has been happening to them recently as well.
[22:33] <coachj> are we now discussing 10.4 here?
[22:33] <bbordwell_> melvster, try adding the power off button to the panel, that is how i have mine setup
[22:33] <Cinnabelle> I'm crossing my fingers that turning off display effects will solve my freezing problem D:
[22:33] <sebsebseb> melvster: there's a command that will reset the panels  to defaults, or should do anyway
[22:33] <litropy> acicula, my friend's OS hangs with a blinking line upon bootup after fresh install
[22:33] <Twiple> Jordan_U: if that fails, is there any way for me to get windows back?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> !panels | melvster
[22:33] <Jordan_U> !panelreset | melvster
[22:33] <RedNifre> I found a lot of spelling errors in the german translation of the installer. Where to report them?
[22:33] <barbarella> datacrusher: yes you can
[22:33] <LinuxGuy2009> !openoffice | zui
[22:33] <Jordan_U> Twiple: Yes, I doubt that it will fail though.
[22:34] <litropy> acicula, yet VESA works.
[22:34] <acicula> litropy, 10.04 ?
[22:34] <Travis-42> if Ubuntu is installed on a new computer onto an SSD, will ubuntu align the new partitions it creates to maximize ssd performance?
[22:34] <zui> !sucks | LinuxGuy2009
[22:34] <litropy> 9.10, acicula. NBR
[22:34] <sebsebseb> melvster: if that doesn't work, well may be some other way to fix it,  or you can just shut down and restart,  like upstream Gnome and other distros.
[22:34] <acicula> litropy, how does vesa work but you get a blinking line on boot?
[22:34] <Twiple> Jordan_U: ok, I tried clonezilla, and I know this probably makes me sound retarded, but I'm lost and terrified
[22:34] <LinuxGuy2009> Folks if you dont like the help that you recieve, please by all means, dont take it.  Having trouble with cursor in tablet mode.
[22:35] <melvster> worked, thanks guys you're the best!
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> RedNifre, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs looks like you should use "ubuntu-bug ubuntu-translations"
[22:35] <melvster> gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[22:35] <melvster> worked
[22:35] <datacrusher> now that iv runned the atualization proccess once, i cant more open synaptic or terminal on the gnome screen
[22:35] <littlegirl> What's the name of 10.4?
[22:35] <Twiple> Jordan_U: nothing yet, I just don't know how to clone a partition
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> littlegirl, Lucid
[22:35] <sebsebseb> melvster: ok :)  however what I put...  well I guess you'll understand when your more expereinced :D
[22:35] <mrfelton> hey - where is the full changelist for 10.04?
[22:36] <littlegirl> ZykoticK9: Thanks. (:
[22:36] <litropy> acicula: he uses GRUB to boot using VESA instead of the default graphics mode
[22:36] <acicula> ah
[22:36] <uLinux> lucid whats that
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !lucid
[22:36] <Travis-42> is there a more detailed release notes for ubuntu 10.04? the technical overview just says things like "includes the latest GNOME desktop environment with a number of great new features" Which new features?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !notes | mrfelton
[22:37] <syst3m> Im having lots of trouble with the 10.04 live cd. Can't install it right away and getting tons of errors when running straight from the live cd.
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: the above link I guess
[22:37] <Jordan_U> syst3m: What sort of errors?
[22:37] <bbordwell_> zui, revert to an older version of wine that it is known to work on
[22:37] <bbordwell_> zui, the wine packages in the wine repository are development versions prone to regressions
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | syst3m
[22:37] <mrfelton> sebsebseb, ubottu - thanks
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !thanks | mrfelton
[22:37] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: no, it doesn't provide any more detail about what's new :-/
[22:37] <votex> LinuxGuy2009 : sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[22:38] <acicula> litropy, the atom intel graphics are pretty poor afaik, but do have drivers. other then that i dont know, boot in vesa mode, grab the graphics card details and have a look on google for causes why it wont work?
[22:38] <mrfelton> how important would you say it is for me to do a 'clean upgrade'?
[22:38] <syst3m> my md match, and its applet errors or something
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: new kernel, new version of Gnome, two new themes,  later Firefox,  loads of packages updated in the repo, and that's it really
[22:38] <LinuxGuy2009> votex: pardon?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: KDE 4.4 for those doing Kubuntu
[22:38] <mrfelton> I have quite a lot of extra stuff installed, including php and mysql from dotdeb
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: there's also a  Ubuntu 10.04 manual, but that's not in the  ISO /  on CD
[22:38] <mrfelton> is that likely to screw up the upgrade process?
[22:39] <litropy> acicula: thank you
[22:39] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I was trying to get more details. e.g. what's new about the new gnome compared to the gnome before?
[22:39] <uLinux> !flash
[22:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: so how high a priority would you put partition cloning?
[22:39] <LinuxGuy2009> !manual
[22:39] <votex> LinuxGuy 2009 : Terminal window, enter: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: the Gnome site can explain that
[22:39] <Jordan_U> Twiple: What do you mean?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: however when it comes to specifailly Ubuntu
[22:39] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: you know that stuff on the top right?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> sure you do
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> Travis-42, pressing F3 gives a split screen in nautilus - only new feature I personally know about
[22:39] <Twiple> Jordan_U: if I'm going to attempt a dual boot setup
[22:39] <uLinux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#installation
[22:40] <uLinux> is outdated
[22:40] <SeismicMike> Happy Download Day everyone!!!! :)
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Travis-42:  the sound menu, and me menu, and what not,  none of that is part of upstream Gnome, it's Ubuntu specific
[22:40] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: hmm, ok, yea I saw that that had changed.
[22:40] <LinuxGuy2009> votex: Maybe your confused, Im not in need of help myself, Im just a volunteer here to help others to get a good user experience.
[22:40] <SeismicMike> I have a quick question - using apt or aptitude is it possible to automatically uninstall all packages that were installed as dependencies but are no longer needed?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: they also remove a more well kind of technical feature as a result of those changes as well, well when they are disabled
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Twiple: I don't think it's needed, though if you have important data it should be backed up just as a general measure.
[22:41] <SeismicMike> I don't know of any specifically on my system, but I'd kinda like to make sure there aren't any before I do an upgrade
[22:41] <Travis-42> sebsebseb: alright, I guess I get the idea. thank you
[22:41] <votex> LinuxGuy 2009 : Nice work..keep it up..cool
[22:41] <Jordan_U> SeismicMike: apt-get autoremove
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SeismicMike, "sudo apt-get autoclean"
[22:41] <SeismicMike> awesome
[22:41] <SeismicMike> thx
[22:41] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: That cleans out caches, it doesn't uninstall packages.
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: you know the automatic shut down Gnome feature?  well that's not there, when you got edited fast user account switcher applet, which is linked to the new me menu, enabled.   instead it will ask people if they really want to shut down ore re start, instead of automatically shutting down after a minute,  after they have done shut down
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> SeismicMike, sorry Jordan_U is correct!
[22:41] <VDZ> Um...I have a problem booting Ubuntu after updating it. It hangs at 'Checking battery state'
[22:41] <theJKH> How is everyone likeing 10.04?
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> Jordan_U, that's twice you've gotten me today :)  Thanks man.
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: I guess newbie friendly features sometimes come at a price, for more expereinced users.
[22:42] <ddelony> I'm still installing it.
[22:42] <CaptainTrek> havent upgraded yet xD
[22:42] <Jordan_U> ZykoticK9: You're welcome :)
[22:42] <syst3m> trying to install...
[22:42] <SeismicMike> theJKH: hitting apt-get dist-upgrade riiiiiight now.....
[22:42] <ddelony> C'mon, how long does it take to install packages? :-p
[22:42] <theJKH> Cool!
[22:42] <ivo_> is it possible to use the "ubuntu music store" on other distros?
[22:42] <datacrusher> barbarella, still no go. ill remove some packages
[22:42] <theJKH> I'm excited to install it ronight in a VM.
[22:42] <theJKH> tonight*
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: ah yes I fogot, but there's also the Ubuntu Music Store
[22:43] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Am back.
[22:43] <mewt> download up upgrade finished! /me prays that update goes well
[22:43] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: that will not upgrade you from 9.10 to 10.04
[22:43] <kensanata> Does anybody know what this means? "Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/lucid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[22:43] <LinuxGuy2009> theJKH: Lucid is nice, I recomend you try it if you are interested. ;)
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ivo_, doubt it - it's only in Lucid, not even older Ubuntu's yet
[22:43] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ok, did it work?
[22:43] <aquachica> Ubuntu Music Store?
[22:43] <SeismicMike> bastid_raZor? No?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> ascarter: yes
[22:43] <barbarella> datacrusher:try some graphics
[22:43] <ukixx> hallo world :)
[22:43] <sebsebseb> uh aquachica yes
 this kind of is not GPL
[22:43] <VDZ> So, um, does anybody know how to solve my issue? (hanging at Checking battery state)
[22:43] <bencc> can I move ssh keys from one machine to another?
[22:43] <jcbv> anyone got a geforce 2 working with compiz
[22:43] <sebsebseb> aquachica: you can buy music in Ubuntu 10.04 using Rythombox
[22:43] <aquachica> sebsebseb: I will have to check that out.
[22:43] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: nope, sudo do-release-upgrade   will
[22:43] <ukixx> do any one how to fix the pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated bug ?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ivo_, not sure about the source - but it makes money for Canonical when you purchase songs
[22:43] <reportingsjr> bencc: I believe you can.  You just have to copy them out of a certain floder
[22:43] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Nope. What does work is logging out and then back in. Thenn all devices are automounted. Here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9182423 the same problem is described. :-(
[22:43] <ukixx> now""
[22:43] <SeismicMike> aaaaaah
[22:44] <datacrusher> barbarella, need 389mb to go
[22:44] <barbarella> datacrusher:and clear the apt cache
[22:44] <datacrusher> any package suggestions?
[22:44] <datacrusher> already did apt-get clean
[22:44] <jcbv> geforce 2 gts compiz yes or no
[22:44] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated? help to fixit
[22:44] <datacrusher> and computer-janitor cleanup
[22:44] <uLinux> "Couldn't find package flashplugin64-installer"
[22:44] <theJKH> Yeah I'm really interested. I will enjoy installing it tonight!
[22:44] <ivo_> I want to purchase songs on other linux
[22:44] <SeismicMike> I did a sed -i s/karmic/lucid/ /etc/apt/sources.list - would that matter?
[22:44] <LinuxGuy2009> !slow
[22:44] <ivo_> distro
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !music
[22:44] <bencc> reportingsjr: thanks. trying
[22:44] <reportingsjr> andy112233: interesting.  Everyone that did the workaround you tried had it work.
[22:44] <bastid_raZor> SeismicMike: dist-upgrade just gets your current version fully up to date
[22:44] <SeismicMike> oh.... :)
[22:44] <Sleepmodehelp> I need a professinal ubuntu programmer or something, please.
[22:44] <Sleepmodehelp> I need a professinal ubuntu programmer or something, please.
[22:44] <reportingsjr> bencc: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1526/transfer-ssh-public-key-to-another-machine-in-one-step
[22:44] <acicula> Sleepmodehelp, just ask
[22:44] <teage> Is my IP Adress the same as my Ethernet Address? Im looking at it from the connection information properties.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Sleepmodehelp: Just ask your question, if anyone can help they will.
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you want the 64bit flash you need to manually install from Adobe site
[22:44] <SeismicMike> well.... oops
[22:44] <SeismicMike> :)
[22:45] <bencc> reportingsjr: thanks
[22:45] <VDZ> Then that means nobody can help me? :(
[22:45] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 i just want "normal" flash for lucid
[22:45] <penthief> Anyone else find fusion-icon doesn't open the settings manager in 10.04?
[22:45] <MikeChelen> !repeat | VDZ
[22:45] <SeismicMike> 'sok... I've downloaded an ISO too, and I'm going to do a full reconfigure over the weekend... this is just temporary
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, easiest thing to do is "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:45] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Could I have done anything wrong?
[22:45] <ConcreteRose> Jo
 what is normal flash
[22:45] <ConcreteRose> Who the hell is this
[22:45] <ivo_> just download the plugin from adobe's site
[22:45] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Will it boot with battery removed and on AC power?
[22:46] <ivo_> and copy it in your ffox plugin dir
[22:46] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you have a removable floppy drive?  I did see the I/O errors on fd0
[22:46] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[22:46] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Should I pastebin the ls of that directory with those rules?
[22:46] <VDZ> LinuxGuy2009: It's a desktop PC, there's no battery
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Yes, really?
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> You need not a desktop server
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> You need a jail sentence
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Conclusive, to your brain.
[22:46] <ukixx> pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated??
[22:46] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 restricted extras?
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> TDP/Electrocution.
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Ah yeah that is an issue. Not sure what package to report that on.
[22:46] <Sleepmodehelp> All the versions of ubuntu i've downloaded automaticly go into sleep mode, I am running it dual boot. I'm currently on windows 7 though. The current version is ubuntu 10.4 LTS. It will stay on for a little bit than automaticly go into sleep mode and not come out of sleep mode. It dosen't do it if I'm doing nothing, it will automaticly do it whenever it wants, it has a mind of it's own, i've asked forums everywhere, they have no c
[22:46] <andy112233> reportingsjr:  What's a removable floppy drive? You mean an old 3,5'' or 5,25''. Nope. I have no floppy drive whatsoever.
[22:46] <ConcreteRose> Conclusive to your people-networks.
[22:46] <joaopinto> !language | ConcreteRose
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, it will install flash and codecs for you
[22:46] <Ken8521> !restricted | uLinux
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !troll | ConcreteRose
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> Please watch your mouth.
[22:47] <theGman> Ok all, I just installed the 9.10 server "spin" and it installed grub2 to my mbr, though it reported that it couldn't. Now, when I select my fedora install it's telling me I have to install/run the kernel first. What can I do to fix thie?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> Your kicking yourself very soon
[22:47] <sebsebseb> !ops | ConcreteRose
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> kick
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> kick
[22:47] <joaopinto> !ops | ConcreteRose trolling
[22:47] <barbarella> andy112233:still got problems to boot your external fat drive?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> your emergency?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> your father?
[22:47] <Sleepmodehelp> All the versions of ubuntu i've downloaded automaticly go into sleep mode, I am running it dual boot. I'm currently on windows 7 though. The current version is ubuntu 10.4 LTS. It will stay on for a little bit than automaticly go into sleep mode and not come out of sleep mode. It dosen't do it if I'm doing nothing, it will automaticly do it whenever it wants, it has a mind of it's own, i've asked forums everywhere, they have no c
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> what are you talking about
[22:47] <theGman> Fedora IS my MAIN os, I also have win7 but I'll worry about that in a bit.
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> you need to go back to your house
[22:47] <Sleepmodehelp> Anybody know?
[22:47] <ConcreteRose> and than get arrested
[22:47] <reportingsjr> andy112233: then I don't know what device fd0 is. I think that the kernel hides SATA as floppy type drives or something.  Maybe a kernel bug? Not sure.
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, it goes into sleep mode because that's the power saving settings
[22:48] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 155mb
[22:48] <outoftime> anyone know off hand where /usr/share/gnome/default.session went in 9.10 ?
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> !manners | ConcreteRose
[22:48] <uLinux> for codecs and flash lol..
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> No, both of them are set to off, Joaopinto
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> Not off, Never* sorry.
[22:48] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: to late already kicked
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, if it doesn't restore from it you should file a bug report, but you should be able to disable the automatica sleep
[22:48] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Think I have a SATA-as-IDE option activated in my bios.
[22:48] <joaopinto> Sleepmodehelp, so, maybe you are experiencing a crash instead ?
[22:48] <VDZ> I was considering giving Ubuntu another chance as Windows performance decreases like mad as you leave it on for a couple of days...but if it doesn't even boot after an update, maybe I should just return to WinXP :|
[22:48] <theGman> Sleepmodehelp: You have to change both your powermanagement settings AND your screensaver settings.
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, if you only want flash just install "flashplugin-installer"
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> sebsebseb: good deal
[22:48] <reportingsjr> andy112233: ah, ok.  I'm sorry, but I think I'm at my limit for helping you. :(
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> It dosen't really crash, it just goes into sleep mode.
[22:48] <barbarella> andy112233:still got problems to boot your external fat drive?
[22:48] <Sleepmodehelp> How do I change my screensaver settings.
[22:48] <votex> VDZ : Ubuntu 9.10 or ...
[22:49] <merlin2049er> hey
[22:49] <andy112233> barbarella: Don't want to boot from my external drive. Just want it to be recognized.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> LinuxGuy2009: good deal?
[22:49] <merlin2049er> should i update before i upgrade?
[22:49] <joaopinto> VDZ, how does it fail to boot?
[22:49] <barbarella> andy112233:ok
[22:49] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Okay.
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Sleepmodehelp: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[22:49] <Sleepmodehelp> How do I change my screensaver settings.
[22:49] <andy112233> reportingsjr: :-(
[22:49] <barbarella> andy112233:still read only
[22:49] <theGman> Ok all, I just installed the 9.10 server "spin" and it installed grub2 to my mbr, though it reported that it couldn't. Now, when I select my fedora install it's telling me I have to install/run the kernel first. What can I do to fix thie?
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> !windows | VDZ
[22:49] <owen1_> is there a lightweight gmail client?
[22:49] <VDZ> I just updated to the new Ubuntu, and now at booting it hangs at 'Checking battery state'
[22:49] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  flash plugin installer is on the system
[22:49] <jcbv> no good games work in ubutnu
[22:49] <Sleepmodehelp> Alright, i'll go try that, thanks for the help. I'll probably be back.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !games | jcbv
[22:49] <sebsebseb> jcbv: by the way next week as part of Ubuntu Open Week there will be a games session
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !openweek | jcbv
[22:50] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  flash plugin installer is in the system already
[22:50] <andy112233> barbarella: I think I've broken my drive. Just realized that I had the USB-wire connected upside-down. When reconnecting it properly, the drive still isn't recognized, neither in ubuntu nor in XP.
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, so restart Firefox and try about:plugins - is flash listed?
[22:50] <Jordan_U> theGman: Have you tried running "sudo update-grub"?
[22:50] <respire> OK how can I make firefox start on workspace 2? The window placement plugin didn't do it, devilspie says the space doesn't exist
[22:50] <jcbv> well i cant play company of heros or day of defeat
[22:50] <sebsebseb> jcbv: you may be able to in Wine
[22:50] <merlin2049er> anyone using ddclient
[22:50] <joaopinto> VDZ, do you have an ATI graphics card ?
[22:50] <too5hort> hey, the linux installer cant fint my hdd, but the linux itself can find it as mounted,any help please
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !wine | jcbv
[22:50] <VDZ> joaopinto: NVIDIA
[22:50] <theGman> Jordan_U: Not once it installed, but the thing is I don't think the mapping is correct.
[22:50] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 zero plugins
[22:50] <VDZ> GeForce 7600 GT, 512 MB
[22:50] <owen1_> is there a lightweight gmail client for linux?
[22:50] <votex> VDZ : Ubuntu 9.10  (updating)... OR
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, don't know then.  Good luck man.
[22:51] <theGman> Jordan_U: But I can try it now and see what errors I get.
[22:51] <barbarella> andy112233:then take it out and put it in your computer
[22:51] <Twiple> Jordan_U: so am I worrying too much?
[22:51] <respire> owen1_, why not thunderbird
[22:51] <running_rabbit07> owen1_, thunderbird
[22:51] <uLinux> lol nice ubuntu..
[22:51] <bastid_raZor> merlin2049er: dyndns.com has instructions on how to set it up
[22:51] <jcbv> ubuntu is hacked to pieces anyway i see all types of viruses from vista showing up in ubuntu
[22:51] <owen1_> respire: ok, i'll try it
[22:51] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Is there anything I can do? Post the problem at a forum? Anything else? Relogging in/out each time doesn't seem the perfect solution.
[22:51] <owen1_> running_rabbit07: thanks
[22:51] <VDZ> votex; updated from Ubuntu 9.10 (I think) to the newest version
[22:51] <LinuxGuy2009> !thunderbird | owen1_
[22:51] <sebsebseb> jcbv: Windows viruses won't run on Ubuntu
[22:51] <respire> jcbv, examples?
[22:51] <jcbv> fu pay me for the answer its a good one too
[22:51] <Jordan_U> theGman: If you are referring to /boot/grub/device.map, it's not used anymore (everything is UUID based now, and grub-install takes standard /dev/foo device names for arguments)
[22:51] <uLinux> i could try to reinstall firefox
[22:51] <respire> i cant afford it :)
[22:52] <reportingsjr> andy112233: you can try posting at the forum.  Mention that thread you posted.  Also search in the bug list, and if there isn't a bug like yours then create one.
[22:52] <User2> hey guys, is someone responsible by shipit here?
[22:52] <respire> so you have a 0day eh
[22:52] <jmknsd> LinuxGuy2009, I have retried running a dvd with all of my media players, confirmed that ubuntu restricted extras is installed and it still does not work. I think it has something to do with Ubuntu seeing my dvd drive as /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/sd*.
[22:52] <andy112233> barbarella: Bought it in one piece. Might be worth trying.
[22:52] <theGman> Jordan_U: No, I meant in /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever drives the grub menu at boot.
[22:52] <iwo> can anyone tell me of a 'known issues' type list for 10.4? has such a list been started? (or should I just query launchpad?)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !notes | iwo
[22:52] <barbarella> andy112233:what does fdisk -l say?
[22:52] <acicula> jmknsd, playing a dvd film?
[22:52] <votex> VDZ : Did you check the HCL list before installing....
[22:52] <andy112233> reportingsjr:  Thanks a lot, reportingsjr! :-) Already midnight here. Getting some sleep now. :-)
[22:52] <LinuxGuy2009> jmknsd: sr0 is completely normal. libdvdcss2 installed?
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> jmknsd, dvd support isn't in restricted extras - see one of the 2 options at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/enable-dvd-video-playback
[22:53] <chicken> Hey all, my laptop seems to run a lot hotter under Ubuntu than Windows. Is there a way of checking the fan speed? Both cores of my processor are set to 'Ondemand' on the CPU frequency monitor.
[22:53] <acicula> LinuxGuy2009, jmknsd you may have to set the region code
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> !medibuntu | jmknsd
[22:53] <uLinux> ZykoticK9 i just reinstalled flashplugin :)
[22:53] <iwo> sebsebseb: cheers
[22:53] <uLinux> and now it's workig
[22:53] <reportingsjr> andy112233: good night! :)  sorry about not being able to help.
[22:53] <andy112233> barbarella: The drive isn't even listed in lsusb.
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> uLinux, nice!
[22:53] <VDZ> votex; I didn't check anything. I hadn't run Ubuntu in a while, so I just decided to update everything and now this happened
[22:53] <acicula> LinuxGuy2009, jmknsd if this is an encrypted dvd that is not playing
[22:53] <sebsebseb> iwo: np
[22:53] <User2> where can i find someone responsible for shipit?
[22:53] <uLinux> ZykoticK9  tks 4 the help
[22:53] <andy112233> barbarella: I think I've ruined the plug
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !shipit | uLinux
[22:53] <sebsebseb> whoops  not uLinux  ,but  User2
[22:53] <too5hort> anyone?
[22:54] <uLinux> i didnt know that anyway nice..
[22:54] <andy112233> reportingsjr: Needn't be. I find it incredible what ubuntu has to offer, including support, all for free! Thank you!
[22:54] <sebsebseb> User2: I guess the above factoid is useless, but was worth a try
[22:54] <jozsibacsi> hey guys, what can  i do if i had blackout during the updateing from karmic to 10.04, and it broke at the sage of 'downloading packages', ive restarted it , and now it stucks at the 2nd phase of the 6
[22:54] <jozsibacsi> can anyone help me regarding it?
[22:54] <ubuntusmash> My laptop seems to run a lot hotter under Ubuntu than Windows. Is there a way of checking the fan speed? Both cores of my processor are set to 'Ondemand' on the CPU frequency monitor.
[22:54] <votex> VDZ : Laptop model ? if you please...
[22:54] <User2> !shipit
[22:54] <barbarella> andy112233:external cases are not so expensive anymore
[22:54] <IdleOne> jcbv: please watch your language and attitude
[22:54] <VDZ> votex; it's not a laptop
[22:54] <alket> can anyone find me ubuntu 10.04 x64 hash ?
[22:55] <VDZ> It checks for a battery that isn't there
[22:55] <alket> md5sum
[22:55] <kbar> Has anyone had a problem where if going into suspend you
[22:55] <kbar> cant come back
[22:55] <reportingsjr> jozsibacsi: it should resume downloading, but considering the state of the servers it sounds like you have the same issue as me, haha.  Wait until tomorrow to resume upgrading.
[22:55] <jcbv> ooooooooooooooooooooo tay capum
[22:55] <frankie_> why is it so dificult to remove ubuntu one? such a massive hassle, why can't it just be one easy uninstall click? it reminds me of trying to uninstall windows programes like IE, msn, etc.. is this really the future of ubuntu?
[22:55] <iceroot> !md5 | alket
[22:55] <jozsibacsi> hehe :)
[22:55] <IdleOne> alket: releases.ubuntu/com/10.04
[22:55] <reportingsjr> jozsibacsi: the servers can't handle this many requests.  It may even be two days, who knows.
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> VDZ: Have you already searched launchpad for a bug? Created a new one?
[22:55] <Enissay> where am i supposed to apply to get a free lisence to use vmware workstation please?
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> alket, 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448 *ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:55] <sebsebseb> frankie_: oh it's quite easy to remove it
[22:55] <merlin2049er> hows the upgrade?