[00:01] <bekks> anabain: show us the actual error message.
[00:03] <anabain> bekks:    ls: can't open directory /deuteros/media/joan/USB/: permission denied
[00:03] <OerHeks> in /mount/ or /mnt/ ?
[00:03] <SebastianTCL> I installed lubuntu, the most recent version, i want to get the gnome audio volume controls how can i get them? alsamixer and the applet do not let me go over 100%  volume
[00:04] <anabain> OerHeks, /mount is a custom dir, it's actually /deuteros, a dir meant to be shared via nfs. But this problem is happening on the server.
[00:04] <bekks> anabain: So it isnt /mount but /deuteros.
[00:04] <anabain> yes, as the error output shows
[00:05] <bekks> anabain: so check the permissions of /deuteros, then /deuteros/media, then /deuteros/media/joan then /deuteros/media/joan/USB
[00:05] <OerHeks> and on what filesystem is that usb folder?
[00:06] <OerHeks> oh nfs
[00:08] <anabain> bekks, http://pastie.org/10642406
[00:11] <anabain> OerHeks, as far as I understand you, it is meant to be an nfs export that will automatically show at the client. But it's been rbinded to /deuteros/ because /deuteros is the only dir that will be exported in /etc/exports
[00:11] <OerHeks> anabain, earlier you asked about vfat with rbind, is this the same issue?
[00:11] <anabain> yeah
[00:12] <sruli> i am testing KVM on  lubuntu 15.10 and seem to have a permission issue that i didnt have on 14.04 when trying to start a VM i get permission denied, user is member of groups kvm and libvirtd, dir of image and images are root:kvm
[00:13] <anabain> OerHeks, but as I said, ignoring the nfs stuff for now, I'm having that permission error at the server. http://pastie.org/10642406
[00:17] <janesmith> I am used to ubuntu server. I'm setting up normal ubuntu on my TV. I have a script that I need to run whenever a user is logged in. I assume something like ~/.bashrc won't work... where should I call that script?
[00:17] <imthenachoman> hey guys... anyway to make it so when I ssh to my server and the IP of my home machine is a certain IP then sudo doesn't require password? all other times it should
[00:17] <need> hi guys im having trouble installing vm virtual box on ubuntu. could someone help me ??
[00:17] <nicomachus> janesmith: do you need to run it on startup?
[00:18] <need> me?
[00:18] <daftykins> imthenachoman: discover key auth i think would make more sense
[00:18] <janesmith> nicomachus: yes
[00:18] <need> no nikol
[00:18] <daftykins> papa, nikol
[00:18] <anabain> bekks, OerHeks, any ideas?
[00:18] <nicomachus> janesmith: you can stick it on /etc/rc.local or enter it into the GUI for "Startup Applications" from the Dash
[00:19] <need> im trying test another os but i just cant figure  out how to install virtuakbox
[00:19] <daftykins> !info virtualbox
[00:19] <need> any help would be greatly appriciated
[00:20] <need> im running on 64 bit version of ubuntu
[00:20] <daftykins> need: it's pretty simple, you install "virtualbox" with the software centre or run "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[00:20] <need> dafty, can you hold on a moment
[00:21] <need> im about to do that
[00:21] <anabain> need, you can go to the virtualbox site and follow the instructions to modify your /etc/apt/sources.list according to your ubuntu version
[00:21] <daftykins> need: did you even try before you came here?
[00:21] <janesmith> nicomachus: thanks
[00:21] <awshelp> does ubuntu have a inbuilt firewall?
[00:21] <OerHeks> anabain, NFS expects to find POSIX attributes in the file system it's exporting (like permissions, etc.) that vfat doesn't have.
[00:21] <daftykins> anabain: better to only complicate matters later ;)
[00:21] <awshelp> i opened a port on the aws and on the znc but i am not connectable
[00:21] <daftykins> awshelp: yes
[00:22] <daftykins> but it won't be on as default most likely
[00:22] <anabain> daftykins, it depends, I'm assuming he/she is not stupid
[00:22] <awshelp> ok thanks
[00:22] <daftykins> anabain: and yet you see a query asking how to install a package
[00:22] <awshelp> any idea why i wouoldnt be connectable?
[00:22] <codepython777> I am root on a remote server. But I cant login as root. I can login as a user. But I think ssh root@localhost is disabled
[00:22] <daftykins> nope, this is OS support, not amazon support.
[00:22] <codepython777> Any ideas how to get a root shell?
[00:22] <need> of course i tried many times just even reinstall ubuntu all over again just to make sure im starting from the beginning just in case i fucked something up while im trying to install VM!
[00:23] <nicomachus> codepython777: sudo -i
[00:23] <daftykins> codepython777: ubuntu makes use of 'sudo' before commands.
[00:23] <awshelp> k thx
[00:23] <anabain> OerHeks, I repeat: I'm having the issue on the *server* side, nothing nfs related is involved at that point
[00:23] <nicomachus> !language | need
[00:23] <sruli> ok, got it, forgot to uncomment user=root and group=root in qemu.conf
[00:24] <daftykins> need: so surely you ran the program and set up a VM, what goes wrong?
[00:24] <codepython777> daftykins: nicomachus: I dont have the password for the account in which i can login into - use ssh key to get in
[00:24] <codepython777> I do have the password for root for that machine - the account i can login into - has sudo privilages, but dont have the password for that account
[00:24] <need> nothing goes wrong. i just cant find the damn icon of vm to start the software!
[00:25] <need> btw installation is over
[00:25] <OerHeks> anabain, oh, i don't have a clue what you talk about then, nor what your issue is.
[00:25] <nicomachus> need: you've already been warned once about langugage.
[00:25] <nicomachus> language*
[00:25] <anabain> OerHeks, thanks anyway
[00:25] <need> excuse my french
[00:26] <awshelp> its not an aws issue
[00:26] <need> how can i open it up?
[00:26] <nicomachus> need: type "virtualbox" into a terminal
[00:26] <daftykins> codepython777: then you can't do it.
[00:26] <need> cant find the icon even tho i searched from my cpu
[00:27] <nicomachus> need: you don't need to. type "virtualbox" into a terminal.
[00:27] <need> omg
[00:27] <need> finally
[00:27] <daftykins> codepython777: root shouldn't have a password. "su" would try switching
[00:27] <need> i greatly appriciate your help
[00:27] <need> thanks a lot!
[00:27] <daftykins> !manual | need for future reference
[00:27] <need> im so unix stubborn. lol
[00:27] <need> got you bud
[00:28] <need> thanks again!
[00:29] <awshelp> sudo netstat -plutn
[00:29] <awshelp> tcp6       0      0 :::5000                 :::*                    LISTEN
[00:29] <awshelp> 25674/znc
[00:29] <awshelp> what does this mean exactly?
[00:30] <awshelp> is the 6 on the tcp6 relevent?
[00:30] <awshelp> because i cant connect
[00:31] <need> daftykins ty for your help too
[00:32] <daftykins> awshelp: IPv6 listening on port 5000
[00:33] <awshelp> daftykins i have ipv4, is this why it isnt working?
[00:33] <awshelp> it should be listening for ipv4 and ipv6?
[00:33] <daftykins> was that the full netstat output?
[00:33] <awshelp> no
[00:33] <awshelp> for znc yes
[00:33] <daftykins> pastebin the whole thing.
[00:33] <daftykins> don't paste into IRC again
[00:34] <awshelp> ok
[00:35] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/a6hkJRYZ
[00:36] <awshelp> daftykins ^^
[00:38] <Ollie65> Good night everyone, I'm going to hit the sack for now :-)
[00:38] <daftykins> awshelp: yes it's not running on v4
[00:39] <codepython777> daftykins: I just logged into the root shell using a recovery reboot
[00:40] <codepython777> but /home is not mounted. Any chance i can change the password for a user?
[00:40] <daftykins> i thought the idea was it was a remote server you only had network access to
[00:40] <codepython777> daftykins: mount /home gives me : mount: can't find /home in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:40] <daftykins> i don't really like what you're up to, so you'll get no help from me i'm afraid.
[00:40] <codepython777> daftykins: Its a VPS with console access
[00:40] <codepython777> no its not
[00:40] <codepython777> so i rebooted it into revovery mode
[00:40] <codepython777> then ssh root@remotehost - and that worked
[00:41] <codepython777> but the recovery mode does not have /home mounted
[00:41] <daftykins> it wouldn't need it.
[00:41] <codepython777> How do i change a sudo user password?
[00:41]  * daftykins walks off
[00:43] <sruli> codepython777: you cant, if you want to use root account enable it by sudo passwd root
[00:43] <codepython777> sruli: when the machine is booted normally, it does not allow ssh root@remotehost
[00:43] <sruli> codepython777: but u will still be able to execute root privileges with regular user pass using sudo
[00:43] <daftykins> going about things backwards :(
[00:44] <awshelp> daftykins ????
[00:44] <codepython777> VPS providers twisting your hands - dont have access to console
[00:44] <daftykins> Digitalocean work fine for me.
[00:45] <daftykins> awshelp: a series of four question marks is surprisingly VAGUE about what you're asking.
[00:45] <sruli> codepython777: try user@remotehost, by default root logins are disbaled
[00:45] <awshelp> does tcp6 listen on ipv4 as well?
[00:45] <daftykins> awshelp: you wouldn't have a problem if it did! NO!
[00:45] <daftykins> look at your paste, why does it say tcp and tcp6? they're different
[00:46] <codepython777> sruli: passwd user -> Tells me no such user?
[00:46] <awshelp> so this is my problem?
[00:46] <codepython777> Unknown user
[00:46] <daftykins> wow awshelp.
[00:46] <awshelp> what is the purge command for znc again?
[00:46] <awshelp> to purge it
[00:46] <daftykins> no you need to reconfigure it, not purge it
[00:46] <awshelp> i will reconfigure
[00:46] <sruli> codepython777: what is the username?
[00:46] <awshelp> its easier to purge and reinstall/reconfigure
[00:46] <daftykins> sudo dpkg-reconfigure znc
[00:47] <codepython777> sruli: cg - so when i do sudo cg : I get unknown username - in recovery mode.
[00:47] <daftykins> i'm going to assume you're saying it asks for config on install
[00:47] <daftykins> so run that.
[00:47] <awshelp> no i use znc --makeconf
[00:47] <codepython777> sruli: what is surprising is that /etc/shadow does not have cg listed - is that normal?
[00:47] <sruli> codepython777: in recoverymode? i think only root works in recovery, i dont understand  u r ssh'd into recoverymode?
[00:48] <codepython777> sruli: yes, I booted the machine in recovery mode using the VPS provider's web interface. Then I could ssh root@myhost - and that gave me a shell. The problem - nothing in /home
[00:49] <daftykins> awshelp: easier to edit the config.
[00:50] <daftykins> just seen their wiki
[00:50] <daftykins> awshelp: 1) don't leave SSH running on port 22 2) reconfigure znc to listen with IPv4, perhaps instead of v6 in fact. 3) enjoy
[00:51] <awshelp> ty daftykins
[00:51] <sruli> codepython777: if u never used the root to login u wont find anything in /root/home why r u in recovery mode, whats the prob?
[00:52] <SchrodingersScat> there should really never be a /root/home unless you explicitly create it
[00:53] <zumba_addict> I installed ubuntu on vmware on my mac book pro. When I switch to the highest resolution, it looks like it's way beyond the screen
[00:53] <sruli> SchrodingersScat: once u login with root it creates it
[00:53] <zumba_addict> so right now, I'm only at 1440x900
[00:53] <sruli> so this is my story for the last few days, needed a feature to work in virt-manager, couldent get it working supposedly by pressing left ctrl+alt together it should work, no luck many hours of trying and testing, after i found that newer version of spice surely works, as its not available on 14.04 i formatted and installed 15.10 and it still didnt work! after 2 days of trying and wasting my time i found that i was using the right ctrl+alt, instead of left, i hi
[00:54] <SchrodingersScat> sruli: it truly doesn't.  where have you seen this?  Anyway, it's a moot point, he didn't say /root/home/ he said /home/  ; codepython777 are you sure you're looking at the right root? root of the machine and not something else from the recovery mode?
[00:55] <sruli> on the bright side i got to try 15.10 which will give me some time to prepare for 16.04 get used to systemd etc
[00:55] <codepython777> sruli: I dont have a password for any accounts on this machine, but root. I can login into the machine using my ssh keys for the users. Or as root in recover mode
[00:56] <sruli> SchrodingersScat: sorry my mistake it create /root not /home/root
[00:58] <sruli> codepython777: can u create user? adduser $USERNAME
[00:58] <codepython777> What is bizarre, is in recovery mode, /etc/ssh/sshd_config does not have an entry showing PermitRootLogin!?
[00:59] <nolsen_> Ubuntu repositories doesn't have the latest kernel verison yet?
[00:59] <nolsen_> (The 4.3 kernel)
[00:59] <nolsen_> s/4.3/4.3.3
[01:00] <codepython777> sruli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109246/
[01:00] <codepython777> why isnt /home mounting?
[01:00] <nicomachus> nolsen_: no. 15.10 is still using 4.2, 16.04 experimental builds have 4.3 though
[01:00] <nicomachus> but 16.04 will be on 4.4 by launch, iirc
[01:02] <sruli> codepython777: u tried mount -o rw,remount /
[01:02] <codepython777> sruli: nope. In recovery mode? What does that do?
[01:03] <sruli> codepython777: mounts the drive as read/write in recovery mode
[01:07] <codepython777> sruli: how can a file change its contents in recovery mode vs regular mode?
[01:08] <sruli> codepython777: i dont know whats mounted, but if u have the same mounted then the contents should be the same
[01:08] <anabain> I'm having an issue with a rbind dir: /media/joan/USBdevice is rbin mounted at /deuteros/media/joan/USBdevice. Actual mounting (at least this is what it seems to happen) takes place when I click the proper icon on Dolphin. Then, ls /deuteros/media/joan/USB device as joan outputs a permission denied message, and as root it outputs nothing. Any ideas?
[01:12] <sruli> how do i set in grub that it should not display gui for boot encrypted password, display console instead? for some reason in virt-viewer an encrypted install wont display the gui password entry on boot, i have to hit escape to see console password entry
[01:14] <codepython777> sruli: seems like i'm booting in recovery mode but the files are different , when i boot into the regular mode!
[01:15] <codepython777> sruli: makes sense, since in recovery mode, the sshd_config must have been backed up and replaced with a new version - so that its more laxed
[01:18] <lulcat> \
[01:33] <awshelp> how do i make a process auto launch on boot
[01:33] <awshelp> znc
[01:33] <sruli> awshelp: on login or boot?
[01:34] <awshelp> i want it to be always running
[01:34] <awshelp> no matter what
[01:34] <sruli> awshelp: what r u using? 14.04? server? desktop?
[01:34] <awshelp> ubuntu server
[01:34] <awshelp> 14.04
[01:35] <VFDPrim> ok so if i take my ssd out of one computer plug it into the other to move files what should i expect to see and what if the one im moving stuff from has partitions will that be available on the other computer allso
[01:35] <sruli> awshelp: is it a custom script u want to run?
[01:36] <awshelp> sruli znc
[01:38] <sruli> awshelp: http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon
[01:38] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: That is an oipen ended question . Are you going to attempt to boot the trnasfered SSD or just access the files on the SSD, and as such what is the operating system of the host machine ?
[01:39] <awshelp> sruli it says to add a crontab
[01:39] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:39] <awshelp> how do i do that
[01:39] <Azuu> hello
[01:39] <VFDPrim> i just need to move the files easaly from that ssd to the new ssd and be able to access them
[01:39] <awshelp> thats not a command
[01:41] <Azuu> alguien habla español
[01:41] <sruli> awshelp: do u have a znc file in ur /etc/init.d
[01:41] <tlt> !es
[01:41] <cfhowlett> !es
[01:41] <tlt> sorry for that cfhowlett
[01:41] <Azuu> buscar my channel llamado
[01:41] <Azuu> chatazul
[01:42] <awshelp> sruli i dont know
[01:42] <awshelp> how i check
[01:42] <cfhowlett> tlt, no need to apologize.  great minds think alike!
[01:42] <tlt> cfhowlett, alright then, Thanks
[01:43] <sruli> awshelp: check, ls /etc/init.d | grep znc
[01:43] <Azuu> no hablo ingles :(
[01:43] <Azuu> no spkeai englsh
[01:43] <sruli> Azuu: !es
[01:43] <Azuu> no se que hacer??
[01:43] <nicomachus> !es | Azuu
[01:44] <nicomachus> sruli: note the format.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> !es > Azuu,
[01:44] <sruli> nicomachus: tnx
[01:44] <Azuu> join #ubuntu-e
[01:44] <nicomachus> cfhowlett's format works as well, and does it as a PM
[01:44] <sruli> ok, always lerning
[01:45] <nicomachus> :)
[01:45] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Were me, I would install the 2nd drive, format it and partition as desired. copy my files straight across to the new mounted partitions .
[01:45] <sruli> nicomachus: maybe u can help me? how do i set in grub that it should not display gui for boot encrypted password, display console instead? for some reason in virt-viewer an encrypted install wont display the gui password entry on boot, i have to hit escape to see console password entry
[01:45] <nicomachus> not sure, sorry
[01:45] <sruli> was worth a try, tnx
[01:46] <sruli> awshelp: did u check?
[01:47] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om i have no idea how to do that and the other computer still needs the ssd
[01:48] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Consider, ssh into the target system, and copy the files that-a-way ?
[01:48] <nicomachus> yea... rsync it.
[01:48] <VFDPrim> whats ssh?
[01:49] <r3c0n> Does ping -f act like a DDos attack or no?
[01:49] <nicomachus> r3c0n: no.
[01:49] <r3c0n> Okay cause I am trying to troll some of my douchebag friends
[01:50] <awshelp> sruli how i check
[01:50] <nicomachus> suggestion: don't.
[01:50] <sruli> awshelp: check, "ls /etc/init.d | grep znc"
[01:50] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell .
[01:50] <nicomachus> r3c0n: a DDoS attack is not a troll, it is a federal crime.
[01:50] <r3c0n> I know that
[01:51] <VFDPrim> Bashing-om thanks ill take a look
[01:51] <nicomachus> r3c0n: you will receive no help from here on that.
[01:51] <awshelp> ls /etc/init.d | grep znc
[01:51] <awshelp> nothing happens
[01:51] <awshelp> sruli ^
[01:51] <r3c0n> I read the cyber crime laws. I know you get arrested for that. FBI vans are typically involved
[01:51] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: ^^ That way you do not have to mess about pulling and installing hard drives .
[01:52] <tlt> r3c0n, you have to ask in ##security
[01:52] <r3c0n> Oh I forgot I was in #Ubuntu. Thanks
[01:52] <tlt> no problem. It's more appropriate there.
[01:53] <sruli> awshelp: so u dont have it
[01:54] <awshelp> sruli i guess not, what can i do
[01:55] <r3c0n> Btw the way, the DDos was for my Metasploitable box so no cyber laws broken
[01:55] <nicomachus> r3c0n: regardless, you will not receive support here for that.
[01:55] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Are both machines 'buntu, in the same house and able to share the same router ?
[01:55] <r3c0n> I know I won't
[01:56] <VFDPrim> bashing-om yes they are like litaraly inches apart lol
[01:56] <awshelp> can anyone help me?
[01:57] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[01:57] <awshelp> how i add this crontab
[01:57] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 <-easiest way to cp files 'tween two 'buntus that share the same router/house (Morbius1)
[01:57] <sruli> awshelp: 1. make a bash script with "service znc start" save it as /etc/init.d/znc make it executable "sudo chmod /etc/init.d/znc"
[01:57] <sruli> 2. run  "update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 .
[01:58] <awshelp> sruli is there an easier way
[01:58] <nicomachus> awshelp: do you have a GUI?
[01:58] <sruli> awshelp: sorry, in #1 i made a typo its "sudo chmod +x  /etc/init.d/znc"
[01:58] <VFDPrim> bashing-om i think it would take me years to do transfers that way
[01:59] <nicomachus> why years?
[01:59] <sruli> awshelp: if u have a server with no gui, this is the easiest way, this is good enough for the bash script http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109842/
[01:59] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Follow the guide .. a matter of minutes . Simple really as falling out of bed wide awake .
[02:00] <VFDPrim> lots of files the way it looks is that thats good for just one or two files
[02:00] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: if it's never leaving the network, then it'll go at whatever speed your hardware allows. Which is likely gigabit.
[02:00] <VFDPrim> but it says i would have to type it in for each file
[02:01] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: if you use NitroShare (which is recommended on that page) then you can just drag and drop a whole directory or whatever you want.
[02:01] <awshelp> i am just trying to auto boot znc
[02:01] <awshelp> isnt there an easier way
[02:01] <nicomachus> awshelp: do you have a GUI?
[02:02] <awshelp> ubuntu server
[02:02] <sruli> awshelp: very simple will take a min, 1. "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" then type in from the paste i posted, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to save, 2.  "sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/znc" 3. "sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 ."
[02:02] <nicomachus> awshelp: then sruli's method is the easiest away.
[02:02] <sruli> ctrl+x to exit
[02:02] <VFDPrim> maybe i got the rong link or am blind lol im not seeing ware it says anything about nitro share
[02:03] <awshelp> i am super confused
[02:03] <awshelp> step 1 sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc
[02:03] <awshelp> ten type what?
[02:03] <awshelp> then*
[02:04] <sruli> awshelp: type what u see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14109842/
[02:04] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: "sudo apt-get install nitroshare"
[02:04] <sruli> awshelp: once inside nano you type that
[02:05] <VFDPrim> E: Unable to locate package nitroshare
[02:06] <nicomachus> oh, right, I found it because I already had the tarball... whoops.
[02:06] <VFDPrim> lol ok so what do i do lol
[02:06] <VFDPrim> never did anything with tarballs as far as i know so ill need step by step if thats ok
[02:06] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:george-edison55/nitroshare
[02:08] <sruli> awshelp: should look like this http://pasteboard.co/aa70dcX.png
[02:08] <sruli> awshelp: oops ignore the top line with ed in the pic
[02:08] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: then "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get install nitroshare"
[02:09] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx
[02:09] <awshelp> is this right
[02:09] <VFDPrim> doing it now
[02:09] <indie_> LEAVE
[02:09] <awshelp> http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx  is this right sruli ?
[02:10] <awshelp> and where do i put */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1 then?
[02:11] <sruli> aws help, ctrl+o is what u hit on your keyboard to save the file, ctrl+x is what you hit on the keyboard to exit nano, the nano file should look like the the paste i sent u
[02:11] <awshelp> ok but what about that
[02:11] <awshelp> */10 thing
[02:11] <sruli> awshelp: forgett eh cronjob, this is instead of it
[02:11] <VFDPrim> ok now what
[02:12] <awshelp> ok doing now
[02:12] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: all installed?
[02:12] <VFDPrim> yup
[02:12] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you'll need to install it on both machines.
[02:13] <VFDPrim> ok give me one sec i have to go back up to see exactly what was said lol
[02:13] <nicomachus> np
[02:13] <sruli> awshelp: just to make sure the cronjob you are refering to is to auto start znc, right?
[02:14] <St1gma_> awshelp: use this to install the service http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon
[02:14] <awshelp> so do that after sruli script?
[02:15] <VFDPrim> so odd having two keyboards right infront of me lol
[02:15] <nicomachus> welcome to my life.
[02:15] <sruli> awshelp: i initially sent u the link stigma just posted, i just checked it there is no instructions to setup a cronjob, follow the instructions in that page for debain based systems
[02:15] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: wait until you have terminals that control 3 different machines open on your desktop
[02:15] <awshelp> so what should i do
[02:15] <awshelp> cron job or what u said
[02:15] <sruli> awshelp: what i told u was instead of it, but u will be better off following that page
[02:16] <awshelp> as a daemon?
[02:16] <St1gma_> what sruli did works, and it should be fine but a daemon should make it more "standard"
[02:16] <awshelp> what is a daemon?
[02:16] <sruli> awshelp: just used what i said
[02:17] <sruli> St1gma_: i just checked that page says to use from 15.04
[02:17] <VFDPrim> ok its up and running on both now what do i do i did not understand there directions
[02:17] <St1gma_> awshelp: a daemon is a background process
[02:17] <awshelp> so what should i do???
[02:17] <St1gma_> awshelp: just like a "service" in windows
[02:18] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: one moment, pulling up mine to refresh my memory.
[02:18] <sruli> awshelp: from the top... lets start over...
[02:18] <VFDPrim> ok thanks
[02:18] <awshelp> ok
[02:19] <Bashing-om> VFDPrim: Must be your lucky day that nicomachus Knows and is on hand and has the app insalled ! wow .
[02:19] <St1gma_> sruli: the page says that Ubuntu 15.04 and on use SystemD
[02:19] <VFDPrim> yea must be as long as it works lol
[02:19] <St1gma_> and those are init scripts
[02:19] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: launch nitroshare, either from a terminal or the dash.
[02:19] <St1gma_> so the question now is "What version are you using awshelp?"
[02:19] <sruli> awshelp: 1. run "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" then type in it should look like this http://pasteboard.co/aa70dcX.png the on your keyboard press ctrl+o to save, then ctrl+x to exit nano, 2. run "sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/znc" 3. run "sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 ."
[02:19] <nicomachus> should only need to do this on one machine, probably the "sender"
[02:20] <sruli> awshelp: thats all
[02:20] <sruli> St1gma_: he said 14.04 server
[02:20] <VFDPrim> i did that and it poped up with instructions and i said ok or what ever and it disapeered
[02:20] <awshelp> yes 14.04
[02:20] <awshelp> server
[02:20] <nicomachus> ha, well that's not usually advised... should read that. but ok.
[02:20] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: click the little icon in your menu bar, and then select "send Directory"
[02:21] <flavio> boa
[02:21] <VFDPrim> oh i did read it and did not understand it lol
[02:21] <flavio> alguem
[02:21] <awshelp> doing now sruli
[02:21] <VFDPrim> ok then select files right?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> !br | Guest90895,
[02:21] <St1gma_> sruli: then he can follow those instructions. but if you have got him down a different path already then might aswell finish that. :)
[02:21] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: yep. select the files/directories you want to send.
[02:22] <awshelp> whats the difference between the bashs cript and the daemon?
[02:22] <awshelp> which is better?
[02:22] <VFDPrim> ok
[02:22] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: after that it should ask you to select who you want to share them with. the other machine SHOULD be listed.
[02:23] <sruli> St1gma_: u saw the instructions i gave him, this is the paste he sent me to confirm that he made the bash file correctly http://pastebin.com/irwRTRdx i dont think he'd be able to follow through the official instructions
[02:23] <VFDPrim> it sould not she the one im on correct
[02:23] <VFDPrim> there is one listed but they both have the same name lol
[02:23] <sruli> awshelp: both are bash scripts, difference is what they contain and how they run
[02:23] <nicomachus> ha. are both of your machines named the same thing VFDPrim?
[02:24] <VFDPrim> yes both are named the same thing i do beleive
[02:24] <Tarmin> Hello. Any reports of Ubuntu bricking the MSI Cubi using the suspend function?
[02:24] <VFDPrim> oh i guess not never mind
[02:25] <VFDPrim> ok so i clicked it now i just hit ok?
[02:25] <Tarmin> Another report of Ubuntu bricking Intel's NUC: https://communities.intel.com/thread/93788
[02:25] <nicomachus> yep.
[02:25] <nicomachus> and it'll start.
[02:25] <cfhowlett> Tarmin, why report this here? file a bug!
[02:25] <Tarmin> Anyone know if the problem is limited to the Intel NUC?
[02:25] <VFDPrim> oh cool thnks so very much you are a HUGE help tome today
[02:25] <nicomachus> :)
[02:25] <k1l> Tarmin: seems like a intel muc issue.
[02:25] <nicomachus> Tarmin: doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue.
[02:25] <Tarmin> cfhowlett: I know to avoid the Intel NUC. I'm wanting to know if the MSI Cubi is OK.
[02:25] <VFDPrim> do i have to wait for it to be done to chose more or can i just keep adding them
[02:26] <St1gma_> sruli: gotcha. sorry to interrupt you :)
[02:26] <awshelp> sruli which method is better?
[02:26] <nicomachus> Tarmin: but as that page says, disconnecting the CMOS battery may restore.
[02:26] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you can keep adding.
[02:26] <safe_> How do I automatically mount ntfs-partition at boot? I googled about fstab but it's a little confusing
[02:26] <k1l> Tarmin: there are some intel nuc relabeled. see what that hardware is exactly.
[02:26] <St1gma_> awshelp: keep on doing what sruli is telling you. that's the easier path
[02:27] <Tarmin> k11, Well, I heard the Cubi uses Intel parts. I wonder though if the problem is related to the BIOS Intel uses.
[02:27] <awshelp> ok
[02:27] <VFDPrim> ok thanks much this will be much easyer then any of the other ways that where told to me due the it being a gui thing so thank you verry much you have no idea how much i apreateat it you have made it very easy, there a way i can give you a gold star or something hahaha
[02:27] <sruli> St1gma_: its actually the same, just needs to paste a large chunk of txt ;-)
[02:28] <spug> my 15.10 system upgraded to 4.2.0-22-generic.efi.signed last night and now it cannot find root, however if I can boot 4.2.0-16-generic is the efi.signed significant here ?
[02:28] <k1l> Tarmin: well, i dont know. best is to ask intel or the cubi guys
[02:28] <spug> oops, let me rephrase that..
[02:28] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: yea, NitroShare is great for users that are looking for ease. It's basically just a shell for an rsync command, so if you want to dig into that in the future feel free. :)
[02:29] <spug> my 15.10 system upgraded to 4.2.0-22-generic.efi.signed last night and now it cannot find root, however I can boot  4.2.0-16-generic is the efi.signed significant ?
[02:29] <awshelp> sudo update-rc.d znc start 10 2 3 4 5 . stop 90 0 1 6 .
[02:29] <awshelp> this is all one command?
[02:29] <VFDPrim> question again is there a way to make it get into a partition? i have a large free space partition that has allot on it that needs to be moved
[02:29] <sruli> awshelp: yes
[02:29] <TJ-> spug: .signed means its expecting SecureBoot. that GRUB core image has some modules not included, such as cryptodisk, so it depends on whether the system is using LUKS encryption, MD RAID, LVM, BTRFS and some other modules not included in .signed
[02:30] <awshelp> sruli done
[02:30] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: as long as that partition is mounted it should be able to access it to *send* files *from* it. I'm not sure about sending files *to* a separate partition on the same machine.
[02:30] <sruli> awshelp: restart, then run "sudo service znc status" to see if its running
[02:30] <awshelp> how do i restart?
[02:30] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: but you can also do that just from Nautilus, so long as the partition is mounted.
[02:30] <spug> TJ-: It's unencrypted and I haven't configured UEFI secure boot... why would it switch from generic to signed I wonder ?
[02:30] <VFDPrim> ok i was telling it to send directory ill try the files thanks
[02:30] <sruli> awshelp: sudo reboot
[02:31] <awshelp> ok
[02:31] <VFDPrim> nope this stupid 15.5 update screwed up being able to get to there from select files
[02:32] <spug> TJ-: It's just a plain old ext4 fstab: "UUID=de0afeb4-669e-4373-a512-fbe55a0e3797 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[02:32] <TJ-> spug: maybe it was only the .signed kernels, and not the .signed GRUB EFI package
[02:33] <spug> TJ-: I guess I'll try a "aptitude install linux-generic"
[02:33] <TJ-> spug: those will come in due to linux-signed-generic
[02:33] <yugi> how to fix the GStreamer
[02:34] <yugi> i am a new boy:)
[02:34] <xangua> yugi: fix what?
[02:34] <spug> TJ-: so how can I get back to an up to date bootable system, I wonder ?
[02:34] <TJ-> spug: does it stop at a busybox prompt?
[02:34] <awshelp> sruli
[02:34] <awshelp> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$ sudo service znc status
[02:34] <awshelp> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$
[02:35] <awshelp>   /etc/init.d/znc: fork: Cannot allocate memory
[02:36] <spug> TJ-: Yes, when I boot any of the 4.2.18,19,21 or 22 signed kernels it times out finding root and drops me in the initramfs busy box, but 4.2.16 if fine.
[02:36] <spug> TJ-: not quite sure how 18,19 and 21 got there and I didn't notice till 22... maybe
[02:36] <TJ-> spug: that suggests there's something missing/broken in the /boot/initrd.img-$VERSION files for those later kernels
[02:37] <TJ-> spug: is there a separate /boot/ file-system? has it run out of space/
[02:37] <awshelp> sruli ?
[02:37] <TJ-> awshelp: looks like the host doesn't have sufficient RAM
[02:37] <awshelp> its a free tier aws instance
[02:38] <awshelp> how much ram cud it need?
[02:38] <sruli> awshelp: how much ram do u have?
[02:38] <TJ-> awshelp: you'd have to check the AWS specs, and look at the current usage with the command "free -m" (reports in Megabytes)
[02:38] <awshelp> i have no idea
[02:39] <spug> TJ-: /boot is under / (/dev/dm-0) and is only 11% in use, there is a seperate /boot/efi but it's only 1% in use.
[02:39] <TJ-> spug: OK, so not the obvious problem then
[02:39] <avis> oddly i'm getting served pages that do not show up on web browsing history.  they are hitting at&t dns servers though.
[02:39] <RonWhoCares> If I have "Kdenlive" installed and I update to the newest release within 'terminal' will 'Kdenlive' stay installed
[02:39] <awshelp>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[02:39] <awshelp> Mem:           992         53        938          0          0          7
[02:39] <awshelp> -/+ buffers/cache:         46        946
[02:39] <awshelp> Swap:            0          0          0
[02:39] <spug> TJ-: Let me diff /boot/.config for .16 and .22
[02:40] <nicomachus> !paste | awshelp
[02:40] <TJ-> spug: it suggests you've changed something that affects the initramfs-tools package since .16 if those others are affected
[02:40] <awshelp> sorry
[02:40] <VFDPrim> RON DO NOT DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:40] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: what why
[02:40] <VFDPrim> leave KDEN LIVE AS IS
[02:41] <awshelp> what can i do??
[02:41] <VFDPrim> beleive me if you have been using it as it was you will not like it it still has most the issues and they chainged some visual things
[02:41] <TJ-> awshelp: memory looks OK
[02:41] <spug> TJ-: only ever clicked the GUI automated updates button or run "aptitude update;aptitude safe-upgrade"
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I am thinking of buying the soon to be released Pine64 to render videos
[02:42] <nicomachus> RonWhoCares: apparently VFDPrim knows what he's talking about.
[02:42] <awshelp> should i follow the daemon tutorial?
[02:42] <VFDPrim> i use it weekly and it is really anoying for me now so much also do not go to 15.10 just my sugestion lol
[02:42] <TJ-> spug: is the root file-system on LVM?
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I would need to start with Ubuntu 14.04
[02:42] <VFDPrim> ROn i dont know much but i do know this lol
[02:42] <sruli> awshelp: i dont know, maybe someone else can help with it, the only thing i can still advise is to change to the official instructions, u can do so easily by, 1. run "sudo nano /etc/init.d/znc" delete all the text you put in before, paste in all the text from here http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110326/ then ctrl+o to save then crtl+x to ext. 2. run "sudo update-rc.d znc defaults"
[02:42] <RonWhoCares> I am already using Ubuntu 15.10.  I did it working  in this.  I needed to update all the audio drivers.
[02:43] <VFDPrim> 14.4 is just fine hell even 15.4 was fine but with the 15.10 update kden live got all wanky
[02:43] <awshelp> sruli is it hard to do the daemon or crontab thing?
[02:44] <sruli> awshelp: i just told u what u need to change to get the official script
[02:44] <spug> TJ-: Good question, there's no lvs or vgs command installed so I assume, no, but the device manager is managing them: dmsetup ls gives ubuntu--vg-root and ubuntu--vg-swap_1
[02:44] <awshelp> what official script?
[02:45] <RonWhoCares> ok
[02:45] <TJ-> spug: "dpkg -l lvm2" should be 'ii' installed
[02:45] <sruli> awshelp: do u want to try to follow my last instruction to see if it works?
[02:45] <RonWhoCares> Do you know if the user interface is the same
[02:45] <spug> TJ-: the diff doesn't show much, erm, difference.
[02:45] <VFDPrim> RON you also cant use the in program sound finder you actualy have to go to the site and look and its kinda a pain
[02:45] <awshelp> sruli i deleted the instance already
[02:45] <awshelp> gonna start over
[02:45] <VFDPrim> user interface is not the same
[02:45] <spug> TJ-: lvm2 missing in action
[02:46] <awshelp> sruli can i pm?
[02:46] <TJ-> spug: I bet you've managed to uninstall/disable 'lvm2' so it isn't being added to the newer initial ramdisks
[02:46] <VFDPrim> for the most part it is as far as how its set up but they chainged a few icons and what not
[02:46] <TJ-> spug: "sudo apt-get install lvm2"  ... then after it is installed regenerate all the initrd.img  for the kernels that aren't booting
[02:46] <spug> TJ-: No awareness of that, but I'll install lvm2 and see if my initramfs rebuild to happiness
[02:46] <sruli> awshelp: its better if u use public channel, but if u really want i dont mind
[02:46] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: glad you're able to help RonWhoCares with this, but it's really not an *ubuntu* support thing. Perhaps you can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:46] <VFDPrim> also i have set up a main layout that i like and every time i go into it i have to manualy set it to the right one where before i did not have to do that
[02:47] <spug> TJ-: Many, many thanks... will give it a whirl
[02:47] <VFDPrim> Ronwhocares if ou have any other qs just pm me
[02:47] <TJ-> spug: I'll bet this shows lvm missing from all but .16: "for RD in /boot/initrd.img*; do echo $RD; lsinitamfs $RD | grep lvm; done
[02:47] <VFDPrim> no problem Nicomachus
[02:48] <TJ-> spug: typo...  "for RD in /boot/initrd.img*; do echo $RD; lsinitramfs $RD | grep lvm; done"
[02:48] <spug> TJ-: apt logs show the removal: /var/log/apt/term.log.1.gz:Removing lvm2 (2.02.122-1ubuntu1) ...
[02:48] <TJ-> spug: can you tell why?
[02:48] <awshelp> sruli i am tyring to pm
[02:49] <VFDPrim> nicomachus is there a way to select more then one file so transfer at a time on nitro
[02:49] <spug> TJ-: Your script confirms your prognosis
[02:49] <spug> TJ-: only .16 has lvm
[02:49] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: you can do a whole directory. just put all the files/directories you want into one directory and send that.
[02:50] <VFDPrim> ok
[02:50] <spug> TJ-: Hunting through logs for clues as to how it decided to get rid of lvm2
[02:51] <VFDPrim> guess i did not realise the difrence in a directory and a file thanks yet again
[02:52] <nicomachus> VFDPrim: directory is basically the linux word for what windows would call a folder.
[02:52] <awshelp> guys
[02:52] <awshelp> can someone please tell me how to make this crontab?
[02:52] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[02:53] <sruli> awshelp: i thought u r reinstalling server now? when u finished .. we'll try to help u further
[02:53] <spug> TJ-: seems like something decided to get rid of 4.2.16-generic-signed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110453/
[02:53] <awshelp> sruli yes i am but i am trying to find otu what i need to do
[02:53] <awshelp> for crontab
[02:53] <sruli> awshelp: its a few simple commands
[02:54] <spug> TJ-: and that included lvm2 and some other crypto relates stuff.
[02:54] <awshelp> can u tell me plz
[02:54] <spug> TJ-: s/relates/related/
[02:54] <TJ-> spug: in the related term.log.X.gz you might find more info
[02:55] <sruli> coffee break
[02:55] <spug> TJ-: Throwing emacs at it now...
[02:55] <awshelp> ok i am setting it up
[02:57] <VFDPrim> ok im gunna sighn off here thank agian for all the help i now have a few hours of sorting and transfering to do lol
[02:59] <spug> TJ-: Seems to have happened post 4.2.18: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110505/
[02:59] <spug> TJ-: Gonna just install lvm2 and rebuild the initramfs and see if that's enough to get me back.
[02:59] <TJ-> spug: there are some very unexpected packages in that purge list, "ubiquity-casper" for example, should only be on the live installer
[03:00] <TJ-> spug: "Running in chroot, ignoring request.^M" ... you did a recovery at tha ttime?
[03:00] <spug> TJ-: I did a USB stick install to a mechanical drive, and then switched to an SSD, I think the install wasn't the smoothest experience I've had but I'm afraid I don't recall the wrinkles.
[03:01] <spug> TJ-: All this on a tiny ASRock BeeBox.
[03:01] <yppo> I get those wierd wfw block in my syslog, can this be a security threat? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/929c46bb3d6e76d6a8f8
[03:01] <yppo> ufW*
[03:02] <TJ-> spug: those messages suggest packages used by the installer in the live environment were actually deleted from the /target/ system because the command was issued whilst in the chroot /target/
[03:02] <spug> TJ-: Not conciously
[03:02] <awshelp> done
[03:02] <awshelp> ok
[03:02] <awshelp> crontab
[03:02] <awshelp> how i do this please
[03:03] <spug> TJ-: consciously
[03:03] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:04] <sruli> the answer to my next question is gonna kill me
[03:04] <sruli> awshelp: did u install znc
[03:04] <nicomachus> lol
[03:04] <St1gma_> -_-
[03:04] <awshelp> yes
[03:04] <awshelp> done
[03:04] <awshelp> and configed
[03:05] <sruli> so i die of embarrassment
[03:05] <awshelp> whyyy?
[03:05] <awshelp> do i have to do this agin
[03:05] <awshelp> again
[03:05] <sruli> awshelp: do waht again?
[03:05] <awshelp> format reinstall
[03:06] <St1gma_> I'm so confused... I'm not sure what you are trying to do. I assume just prevent ZNC from dying?
[03:06] <sruli> awshelp: who said u need to format -reinstall?
[03:06] <awshelp> i dont know
[03:06] <awshelp> why r u embarrased
[03:06] <nicomachus> St1gma_: he just wants to make znc start as a startup application, and it's become entirely too difficult.
[03:06] <spug> TJ-: Giving: "update-initramfs -u" a whirl
[03:06] <sruli> awshelp: no one said u should u decided out of ur on freew ill to do so
[03:07] <awshelp> no i know
[03:07] <awshelp> i wanted to
[03:07] <awshelp> but i am asking
[03:07] <sruli> guys setting a cronjob for a user, will it run on boot if user doesnt login?
[03:07] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:07] <St1gma_> yes
[03:07] <awshelp> znc wiki says this is the best way to do it
[03:07] <sruli> awshelp: some patience please
[03:08] <awshelp> sorry
[03:08] <sruli> St1gma_: was the yes directed at my question regarding crontab?
[03:08] <spug> TJ-: 4.2.0-22 now has lvm2 in it's ram disk... will give it a whirl
[03:09] <St1gma_> sruli: yeah. the other easy option is rc.local
[03:09] <sruli> awshelp: 1. run "crontab -e"
[03:09] <St1gma_> echo "/usr/local/bin/znc" > /etc/rc.local
[03:09] <IBM_CLONE> I have been away from the Ubuntu forums lately. Just came back and would like to know about the best web server such as Apache. Is that the industry standard right now or is there a better one?
[03:09] <awshelp> done
[03:09] <k1l> IBM_CLONE: apache is known to work
[03:09] <St1gma_> s/>/>>/
[03:09] <sruli> awshelp: what the last line u see?
[03:10] <Ben64> awshelp: did you configure znc yet
[03:10] <St1gma_> IBM_CLONE: Ubuntu has nothing to do with the best web server out there
[03:10] <awshelp> Ben64 yes
[03:10] <awshelp> sruli select an editor
[03:10] <IBM_CLONE> K11 thanks. I have used it in the past.
[03:10] <sruli> awshelp: select nano
[03:10] <St1gma_> IBM_CLONE: Apache2 is great, so is NGINX, depends on your needs.
[03:10] <ni_> Best or not I use Apache
[03:10] <awshelp> bin/nano ?
[03:11] <sruli> awshelp: nano
[03:11] <IBM_CLONE> St1 I agree. I was just interested if there were something new. I refuse to use Windows Servers.
[03:11] <awshelp> sruli https://gyazo.com/cfdad9c678b91e98aa20a9041b6bc62a
[03:11] <awshelp> #2 ?
[03:12] <sruli> awshelp: type "2" then hit enter on ur keybaord
[03:12] <awshelp> done
[03:12] <sruli> awshelp: now what is the last line u see?
[03:13] <awshelp> https://gyazo.com/0229ca2cd2d264454b7ef62cb5ca13f3
[03:13] <St1gma_> go to the end copy/paste the crontab command
[03:13] <St1gma_> then pretty ctrl+x
[03:13] <St1gma_> then yes
[03:13] <St1gma_> should say something like "crontab installed"
[03:14] <IBM_CLONE> I suppose just use the apt-get install and install the Apache server then.
[03:14] <awshelp> */10 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:14] <awshelp> this line/.?
[03:14] <sruli> yes
[03:14] <Ben64> awshelp: thats still incorrect
[03:14] <awshelp> can i change it to 3 minutes?
[03:14] <awshelp> Ben64 its from the znc wiki
[03:14] <sruli> awshelp: yes
[03:15] <Ben64> awshelp: ok fine, do whatever you want
[03:15] <awshelp> actually i wannat change it to 1 minute
[03:15] <St1gma_> Ben64: yeah that'll keep on trying to spawn the process
[03:15] <Ben64> officially giving up
[03:15] <awshelp> */1 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:15] <awshelp> ?
[03:15] <sruli> awshelp: change it to whatever you want
[03:15] <Ben64> tried yesterday, i feel like i've said the same thing a million times
[03:15] <awshelp> Ben64 i didnt try this yesterday
[03:16] <awshelp> yesterday was a different issue
[03:16] <Ben64> yes you did
[03:16] <awshelp> no
[03:16] <awshelp> i tried to execute this line as a command yesterday
[03:16] <awshelp> lol
[03:16] <sruli> awshelp: did u yet save the crontab?
[03:16] <awshelp> not yet
[03:16] <IBM_CLONE> I came here earlier today and asked if there were an interface with Apache web server that has live one on one talk with a client. Any comments on that?
[03:16] <awshelp> */1 * * * * /usr/local/bin/znc >/dev/null 2>&1
[03:17] <awshelp> this means 1 minute
[03:17] <awshelp> ?
[03:17] <SchrodingersScat> IBM_CLONE: one on one talk?
[03:17] <sruli> yes
[03:17] <IBM_CLONE> Yes.
[03:17] <awshelp> ok
[03:17] <IBM_CLONE> I have been on some websites and the interface was like an IRC chat with a channel list like this channel.
[03:18] <sruli> awshelp: have u saved the crontab?
[03:18] <awshelp> not yet
[03:18] <kuschel> JOIN #lxcontainers
[03:18] <sruli> awshelp: u r waiting for?
[03:18] <awshelp> should there be an extra line at the end, or should the crontab entry be the last line, or it doesnt matter?
[03:18] <nicomachus> doesn't matter
[03:18] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | kuschel
[03:18] <awshelp> extra blank line
[03:18] <awshelp> ok
[03:19] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: I assume he was trying to join and forgot the /
[03:19] <awshelp> done
[03:19] <awshelp> how do i reopen the crontab to verify it did save?
[03:19] <sruli> awshelp: run "sudo service znc status"
[03:20] <sruli> awshelp: the same way u opened it the fist time "crontab -e"
[03:20] <sruli> awshelp: run "sudo service znc status"
[03:20] <awshelp> unrecognized service
[03:20] <St1gma_> awshelp: crontab -l
[03:20] <sruli> and i asked if u installed it!
[03:20] <awshelp> i did
[03:20] <SchrodingersScat> IBM_CLONE: I think that would be outside the scope of this channel and more about whatever people have created that can run on apache2/php5, there are probably quite a few chat options.  There's also jitsi-meet that defaults using nginx
[03:20] <awshelp> its running
[03:21] <St1gma_> awshelp: you gotta make sure that you provide the channel with enough information to help you
[03:21] <regedit> hello
[03:21] <IBM_CLONE> SchrodingersScat here is a sample of what I am talking about. I don't endorse this website, but it is what I am looking for.   http://www.chat-avenue.com/
[03:21] <St1gma_> you said you installed it, where did you install it? was it the package?
[03:21] <awshelp> znc is installed and running, i am connected to it
[03:21] <St1gma_> run "which znc"
[03:21] <awshelp> sudo apt-get install znc
[03:21] <St1gma_> awshelp: please run "which znc"
[03:22] <regedit> so my system *used* to delete older kernels (keeping 1 older version around, i think) automatically. but recently (after upgrading to 15.10 maybe?) all kernels keep piling up, old ones do not get autoremoved anymore
[03:22] <awshelp>    /usr/bin/znc
[03:22] <awshelp> i just tried to run this as a command also by accident
[03:22] <awshelp> did i mes soemthign up
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> regedit: I think I noticed the same thing :/  need to watch my /boot/ on a few vps now.
[03:23] <St1gma_> go back to your crontab and make sure that's what you have in there
[03:23] <sruli> awshelp: in ur crontab "crontab -l" change the path u put from /usr/local/bin/znc to usr/bin/znc
[03:24] <awshelp> done
[03:24] <St1gma_> SchrodingersScat: doesn't "apt-get autoremove" work for you?
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> well, /usr/bin/znc
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> St1gma_: not in that situation, no
[03:24] <nicomachus> regedit: you can remove them manually.
[03:24] <St1gma_> so you might have to run update-grub2
[03:24] <St1gma_> manually
[03:24] <nicomachus> regedit: just make sure you don't remove all of them.
[03:25] <awshelp> sruli done
[03:25] <sruli> awshelp: yes, i forgot the leading / it should be /usr/bin/znc
[03:25] <St1gma_> I assume, because I have a couple of VPS on 15.10 and I don't have that issue
[03:25] <awshelp> yup i did that
[03:25] <awshelp> sudo service znc service?
[03:25] <sruli> awshelp: restart ur server wait however long u specified in ur crontab and see if it started
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> or you could sudo apt-get remove linux-image-{version} and then run an autoremove, what I've been doing, idk why you'd jump to manually removing them.
[03:25] <awshelp> unrecognized service
[03:26] <awshelp> before reboot
[03:26] <awshelp> shud i be concerned
[03:26] <St1gma_> yeah... I do autoremove, works.. first I hear about this issue
[03:26] <regedit> nicomachus: i would really love it if the previous behaviour continued where older kernels (2 releases back or so) were autoremoved...
[03:26] <regedit> nicomachus: any clue how that used to work, why it doesnt work now, and how can this behavior be restored?
[03:27] <sruli> awshelp: try "sudo service /usr/bin/znc status"
[03:27] <awshelp> ok rebooting i will after its on
[03:28] <nicomachus> regedit: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[03:28] <awshelp> ok
[03:28] <awshelp> it worked :-d
[03:28] <nicomachus> regedit: to a pastebin, please. :)
[03:28] <regedit> nicomachus: sure hang on, thanks...
[03:28] <awshelp> sweet
[03:28] <awshelp> thank you so much sruli and St1gma and everyone else :-d <333333
[03:28] <sruli> for some
[03:29] <regedit> nicomachus: for some reason everyone gets the "never autoremove" treatment now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110847/
[03:29] <regedit> no wait
[03:29] <nicomachus> regedit: there are only 2 kernels there. that is normal, and advised.
[03:30] <regedit> yes it does look good
[03:30] <regedit> so why do i have so many other kernels?
[03:30] <SchrodingersScat> nicomachus: so, that's a little interesting, in one machine it lists 2, in another it lists 3, I call shenanigans.  Note that the one that has 3 is the machine with the lowest /boot/
[03:30] <nicomachus> regedit: well, let's see what 'sudo ls /boot' looks like
[03:31] <regedit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110866/
[03:31] <nicomachus> regedit: yea... that is odd.
[03:32] <nicomachus> regedit: so apt-get autoremove catches nothing now?
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: before i rebooted, apt-get was claiming it "kept back" linux headers etc. but after booting into new kernel apt-get doesnt do anything about older kernels anymore :(
[03:33] <nicomachus> SchrodingersScat: you can check /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal to see how many are set to be removed.
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: i do remember seeing some output from running that
[03:33] <nicomachus> regedit: "kept back" means it isn't installing them... you have to run apt-get dist-upgrade to install them.
[03:33] <nicomachus> regedit: that's referring to *new* kernel installs, not old ones.
[03:33] <regedit> nicomachus: ye exactly until i did dist-upgrade and rebooted
[03:34] <regedit> ah ok
[03:34] <spug> TJ-: 4.2.0-22 working perfectly, amazing powers of deduction on picking that lvm2 was missing!
[03:34] <IraL> Is there anyone around who knows abount dual boot on modern UEFI?
[03:34] <nicomachus> regedit: so what do you get from ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '?
[03:34] <gambl0re> is npm the same thing as ruby gems?
[03:35] <regedit> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14110905/
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> !info npm | gambl0re, looks like node.js treachery
[03:36] <nicomachus> regedit: ok. so what happens when you run autoremove?
[03:37]  * regedit awaits further messages from nicomachus like a panting puppy with drooping tongue
[03:37] <regedit> lol
[03:37] <regedit> at this point nothing
[03:37] <nicomachus> no treats for you.
[03:37] <regedit> :D
[03:38] <regedit> nicomachus: there was output one time, but now nothing
[03:38] <regedit> a bunch of lines starting with "Del" or something
[03:38] <regedit> is there a history log of apt-get autoremove i can examine?
[03:39] <awshelp> thanks again everyone cya
[03:39] <IraL> Please anyone who can advise on dual boot with UEFI and SSD >>> Many Thanks
[03:40] <nicomachus> regedit: there is a log for apt-get at /var/log/apt/term.log but idk if it'll really tell you anything
[03:40] <regedit> IraL: feel free to ask your actual question. just spill the beans instead of asking to do so :)
[03:43] <regedit> nicomachus: ye i cant find that output in there..
[03:43] <IraL> Sorry for being unclear just collected on Squaretrade Warranty after following Ubuntu Forum advice and repair-boot Want advice on forthcoming Digital Storm System with UEFI?SSD/etc
[03:43] <nicomachus> regedit: yea it's a pretty worthless log tbh. wish it was better. :/
[03:44] <St1gma_> gambl0re: yes, npm is the package manager for node.js where gem is the one for ruby. You might want to ask in those channels if you have any more questions.
[03:45] <nicomachus> regedit: this is 15.10 right?
[03:45] <regedit> nicomachus: yep, sure is
[03:45] <regedit> Linux regedit-U410 4.2.0-22-generic #27-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 17 22:57:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:45] <nicomachus> ok, I'm just looking around to see if there's a bug report for this.
[03:46] <regedit> thanks
[03:46] <ashzilla> how
[03:47] <IraL> @regedit Could you mention a "Canonical" site for good UEFI aand SSD dual booting advice
[03:47] <ashzilla> im wondering how i can install the unsquashfs tool
[03:47] <regedit> lsb-release shows DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.10 DISTRIB_CODENAME=wily DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.10"
[03:48] <nicomachus> regedit: what's the output of ' apt-mark showmanual | grep linux-image '?
[03:48] <regedit> IraL: first few links here https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20uefi&rct=j
[03:50] <regedit> nicomachus: hm come to think of, i should mention i had troubles during upgrade 15.04 > 15.10 and had to apt-get -f install which deferred me to dpkg -a --configure which seemingly finished things, but yes maybe some became "manual"?...
[03:50] <regedit> checking..
[03:50] <IraL> Many Thanks actually had first 2 sites trying to disambiguate is there a contact person at Canonical on dual boot?
[03:51] <regedit> IraL: ask the specific detail/quote right here
[03:52] <regedit> nicomachus: well whadya know http://paste.ubuntu.com/14111019/
[03:52] <regedit> nicomachus: what does this mean? and why do newer kernels keep getting marked as manual?
[03:52] <regedit> or is it really only up to 4.2.0-19
[03:52] <IraL> Thanks I'll have to wait till I buy new system following advice on earlier HP allin1 on ubuntu forums destroyed disk leading to warranty check now buying new system with SSD and fancy UEFi and scared :-(
[03:53] <regedit> nicomachus: ...which is the 1st kernel since upgrade to 15.10
[03:53] <nicomachus> regedit: those were all marked as manual?
[03:53] <regedit> nicomachus: that is the output i get from your command ^
[03:55] <regedit> nicomachus: if they were marked as manual, i have no idea how/why (unless the troublesome upgrade story i relayed before ^ )
[03:55] <nicomachus> ok, well that explains it. I'm wondering if those were on the system whenever you upgraded to 15.10, and the upgrade somehow forced them to become marked as "manually installed". and since autoremove doesn't remove any manually installed packages, it won't remove them.
[03:55] <regedit> so is it just a matter of marking them as automatic?
[03:56] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: try this out
[03:56] <nicomachus> the 4.2.0-19 kernel is marked properly, because that's how autoremove knows to not remove it. but those 3.19 kernels should be marked as "automatic" so that autoremove can clear them out.
[03:56] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: [22:48] <nicomachus> regedit: what's the output of ' apt-mark showmanual | grep linux-image '?
[03:56] <SchrodingersScat> regedit: nothing
[03:56] <nicomachus> now, I don't know for SURE why those were marked manual. but I'm GUESSING it was because they were in the system during the upgrade... that's the only thing I can think of.
[03:56] <regedit> nicomachus: why should 4.2.0-19 not be removed?
[03:57] <regedit> SchrodingersScat: bummer...
[03:57] <regedit> ah ok
[03:57] <regedit> plus maybe my troubles during the upgrade...
[03:57] <nicomachus> perhaps. what were those trouble again?
[03:58] <nicomachus> you interrupted the upgrade, right?
[03:58] <regedit> nicomachus: system froze completely while doing something seemingly important (kernel upgrade perhaps?)
[03:58] <regedit> i had to kill power, when rebooted i got grub recovery console
[03:59] <regedit> had to live CD boot-repair and update-grub
[03:59] <nicomachus> ah that's right
[03:59] <regedit> after which i did apt-get -f install which in turn told me to dpkg -a --configure
[04:00] <nicomachus> well, go ahead and remove those older ones manually for now.
[04:00] <regedit> nicomachus: also the 4.2.0-19 right?
[04:00] <nicomachus> regedit: yes. just make sure to leave -21 and -22
[04:00] <regedit> just for fun, i'd like to mark them as automatic and see if apt autoremoves them, or is this a terrible idea for some reason?
[04:01] <nicomachus> hmm... should be fine.
[04:02] <regedit> nicomachus: oh but wait, which packages do i mark automatic? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14111106/
[04:03] <regedit> linux-headers-* linux-signed-* linux-image-* ?
[04:03] <regedit> what about linux-generic
[04:03] <regedit> and linux-signed-generic
[04:03] <nicomachus> linux-generic is the big one. but you may be getting yourself into a mess using regex on those...
[04:04] <nicomachus> just do it carefully.
[04:04] <regedit> ok i'll do 'em verbosely
[04:04] <regedit> but all of those?
[04:04] <regedit> wtf is linux-sound-base
[04:05] <regedit> nicomachus: am i supposed to also remove the linux-(signed-)generic then?
[04:06] <nicomachus> eeeehhhh... that's an EFI thing right? I have no idea.
[04:06] <regedit> i'll leave those alone then... too scared
[04:12] <Felishia> help
[04:12] <Felishia> I'm trying to find the devel package for openjdk-7 but I can't find it
[04:13] <Felishia> I find it for red hat and opensuse though
[04:14] <nicomachus> Felishia: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre' doesn't work for you?
[04:14] <Felishia> weird i thought I had that installed
[04:14] <regedit> nicomachus: alright looks like this was indeed the solution, rebooting now. thanks for the help!
[04:18] <Felishia> I installed the android sdk but where in the world is adb?
[04:18] <rww> in android-tools-adb
[04:18] <k1l_> ubuntu ships adb
[04:18] <k1l_> install android-tools-fastboot and android-tools-adb
[04:20] <codepython777> how do i make scp exclude /mnt/dev/* ? --exclude doesnt seem to work
[04:22] <Felishia> I found it
[04:22] <Felishia> it's in platform-tools
[04:22] <Felishia> hmmm...
[04:22] <Felishia> however it still says that I need the devel java jar libraries
[04:22] <Felishia> so the jre didn't work for it
[04:23] <Ben64> what exactly is the error
[04:23] <k1l_> java 7 sounds somewhat old
[04:23] <nicomachus> k1l_: it is...
[04:23] <nicomachus> 8 is current
[04:23] <zykotick9> codepython777: i believe --exclude is a rsync switch, not a scp one...
[04:24] <codepython777> zykotick9: how do i use it on a scp - rsync -e ssh seems to require rsync on the other end. And I'm not root on the other side. Cant install rsync
[04:25] <Ben64> rsync -e ssh
[04:26] <zykotick9> codepython777: sorry, i have no idea.  good luck.
[04:26] <Ben64> doesn't need rsync
[04:26] <regedit> nicomachus: now when i autoremove, apt wants to remove... 4.2.0-21 ? and when i check 01autoremove-kernels it actually has -19 and -22?? wtf http://paste.ubuntu.com/14112841/
[04:26] <codepython777> Ben64: it does!
[04:26] <codepython777> I just tried it , and complains that rync is not available on the other end
[04:27] <xpruined> codepython777: that's right. You don't have to take that. zykotick9
[04:27] <Ben64> codepython777: oh weird it does
[04:27] <codepython777> Ben64: its lame!
[04:27] <Ben64> lame that you don't have rsync...
[04:28] <nicomachus> lol
[04:28] <xpruined> nicomachus: funny huh
[04:31] <codepython777> Ben64: I'm not root - this machine doesnt even have gcc!
[04:31] <nolsen> I'm trying to remove Gnome3 but it seems I'm having a bit of problem, I tried purging it but gnome-session is still a command.
[04:31] <nolsen> What do I do?
[04:33] <nicomachus> nolsen: I believe you want to remove gnome-shell, not gnome-session.
[04:34] <nolsen> nicomachus: gnome-shell will also delete other stuff.
[04:34] <nolsen> oh wait.
[04:34] <nolsen> Package 'gnome-shell' is not installed, so not removed
[04:35] <nolsen> nicomachus: I already deleted parts of the DE.
[04:35] <nolsen> But the command is still there.
[04:36] <nicomachus> nolsen: why are you trying to remove it?
[04:36] <nolsen> nicomachus: Because gnome is horrible.
[04:36] <nicomachus> aka, what's your end-goal here?
[04:37] <nolsen> I just want to remove it, it's shit.
[04:37] <nicomachus> please use calm, polite language here.
[04:39] <nolsen> It's a waste on my computer.
[04:39] <nolsen> Because it's horrible.
[04:39] <nolsen> I don't know how to undo the installation.
[04:39] <nolsen> Because it wants to delete other stuff I want...
[04:39] <ericcaron> how to do what installation?
[04:39] <nolsen> Gnome...
[04:40] <ericcaron> why would you want that gone?
[04:40] <nolsen> ...
[04:40] <nicomachus> nolsen: ok. what's the output of ' env | grep $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP '?
[04:40] <jelly> nicomachus: you want to remove $ from that grep
[04:40] <nolsen>  env | grep $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP : command not found
[04:40] <Ben64> nolsen: what do you want instead of gnome
[04:40] <nolsen> ...
[04:41] <nicomachus> jelly: no, I don't.
[04:41] <nolsen> Ben64: I know what I want and how to get it, I just want to get rid of gnome DE.
[04:41] <nolsen> it's that simple of an answer...
[04:41] <Ben64> it isn't
[04:42] <nicomachus> nolsen: ok.
[04:42] <Ben64> install mini iso and choose exactly what you want then
[04:42] <nicomachus> nolsen: sudo apt-get install env
[04:42] <jelly> but then it returns more lines than just "which DE is running at present"
[04:42] <nicomachus> then run that command again
[04:42] <nicomachus> jelly: no, it doesn't.
[04:42] <ericcaron> ok you want to get rid of gnome , but don't want it to get rid of what? and what's replacing your "gnome"
[04:43] <nicomachus> jelly: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14112928/
[04:43] <nicomachus> ok... he left.
[04:44] <nicomachus> I was gonna help.
[04:44] <Ben64> he didn't want help
[04:45] <jelly> nicomachus: so you grepped for "Unity".  If it were "KDE" for example, you'd have gotten 4-5 lines with all the env.vars containing KDE
[04:45] <nicomachus> jelly: and that's fine. I'm 90% positive he was running unity.
[04:45] <ericcaron> if he wanted help he would have stayed to listen to some ideas. he was in a hurry for a quick fix. quick fixes lead to bad things happening .... i know this a bit too well :)
[04:47] <ericcaron> question ( yes i am still very new to a lot of this) is Kubuntu generally slower at opening programs than other versions of Linux?
[04:47] <Ben64> no
[04:48] <ericcaron> must be something with my macbook pro then (wrong version to install on an older macbook)....
[04:49] <nicomachus> ericcaron: you may look into a lighter distro like lubuntu or xubuntu.
[04:49]  * jelly wonders which release has /usr/bin/env not be part of coreutils package
[04:49] <nicomachus> jelly: get over it. I gave the command to get the info I wanted to help him.
[04:50] <ericcaron> i was thinking the same thing nico... i have pretty much kubuntu and 2 skins installed. net works everything works nice  just seems sluggish
[04:50] <jelly> nicomachus: I'm over it.  env not in path is a different thing.
[04:51] <django_> im on lubuntu, when i hit crtl tab i accidentally hit something else and all the programs open, left from the start bar dissappear
[04:51] <django_> but they are still open
[04:51] <django_> grrrr
[04:51] <django_> i cant alt tab to them either
[04:51] <django_> alt tab**
[04:52] <ericcaron> am i able to do a direct install from the terminal/command  of xubuntu?
[04:52] <nicomachus> django_: you probably switch workspaces. (if lubuntu has them)
[04:52] <django_> how?
[04:52] <ericcaron> you should be able to disable the workspaces if you don't plan on using them django :)
[04:53] <dangered> Hey
[04:53] <django_> ericcaron, how do i swtich to it
[04:53] <ericcaron> not sure on your current version it should be in your settings. to change the keys to swap desktop environment etc.
[04:54] <django_> ericcaron, im hitting alt tab and i accidentally remove everything
[04:54] <django_> but programs remain open
[04:54] <django_> with their same states
[04:54] <ericcaron> yes thats your key combination to swap around work spaces.... need to locate your work spaces in your settings.
[04:55] <django_> how
[04:55] <ericcaron> bottom left corner should pop up a menu with all your programs like system settings , applications and such
[04:55] <django_> ctrl alt tab isnt doing it
[04:56] <nicomachus> django_: try Ctrl+Alt+left/right arrows
[04:56] <ericcaron> ^ or try that :)
[04:56] <django_> worksksksks
[04:56] <django_> omg ty
[04:56] <nicomachus> that do it?
[04:56] <django_> yes
[04:56] <nicomachus> \o/
[04:57] <hhee> hi guys. which image editor (resize, crop, hue save in others format) in linux can i use?
[04:57] <ericcaron> lol if you want to keep it do that if not well try my suggestion later lol
[04:57] <nicomachus> !gimp | hhee
[04:58] <hhee> nicomachus, i know it. but it's very big. i m not want so many features. just e few for some basic edition
[04:59] <nicomachus> hhee: ah, ok. imagemagick can do that, but it's a command-line program. shotwell and pinta may also be of interest.
[05:00] <fzec> the best one is Gimp
[05:01] <fzec> but the easiest is Kolourpaint
[05:01] <ericcaron> other ones work nicely too. but gimp like hhee said is kind of large :)
[05:01] <hhee> nicomachus, oh tnx. command line - not that i'm need. (i need manual edit) shotwell and pinta - i'll check it tnx :)
[05:01] <nicomachus> good luck.
[05:02] <hhee> nicomachus, wow it seems cool http://pinta-project.com/
[05:02] <nicomachus> I've never used it, but it seems similar to MS Paint
[05:05] <hhee> nicomachus, i think more powerfull
[05:06] <nicomachus> hhee: the story of linux :)
[05:10] <Gallomimia> grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.
[05:10] <Gallomimia> grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:10] <Gallomimia> um. i think i'm doing something wrong...
[05:10] <ericcaron> what are you trying to embed Gallomimia?
[05:11] <Gallomimia> well, i'm trying to install grub to a separate /boot partition
[05:11] <Gallomimia> since i have most of my disk allocated to raid
[05:11] <ericcaron> do you already have it on one?
[05:11] <Gallomimia> no
[05:12] <ericcaron> do you have a spare partition? have you made a partition for it?
[05:12] <Gallomimia> yes
[05:12] <Gallomimia> sda1 is 249 mb ext2 for /boot and sda2 is 1gb ext3 for /boot/EFI im not quite sure how it goes
[05:12] <ericcaron> might not be a good idea to do it on a raid partition just yet. ( wouldn't want to wreck anything)
[05:13] <Gallomimia> i put those partitions in before raiding
[05:13] <Gallomimia> sda3 is 2TB for raid
[05:13] <ericcaron> i had a friend do it incorrectly and wrecked the raid setup badly....
[05:13] <Gallomimia> well everything is fine for now, except the boot isn't working
[05:14] <ericcaron> what message are you getting at the boot? anything?
[05:14] <Gallomimia> and i need to embed lvm and dmcrypt in my initrd
[05:14] <Gallomimia> uh... gee i haven't tried booting from that in awhile
[05:14] <Gallomimia> for now i have ubuntu installed on a flash drive :/ supah-slow
[05:15] <ericcaron> have you googled up a raid support for the grub you are attempting to instal?
[05:16] <ericcaron> i think theres a seperate one specific for raid set ups. could be wrong though
[05:16] <Gallomimia> i had this working once before... the installer fluked into it this one time but i haven't been able to repeat the process
[05:17] <ericcaron> shame u didnt have a backup of how it was when it was working could have pulled the backup for a repair
[05:18] <Gallomimia> yeah
[05:19] <ericcaron> would be able to help out more if i had an idea of what things looked like .
[05:22] <regedit> nicomachus: (still there?) does it make sense that 10autoremove-kernels would in fact retain 4.2.0-19 and -22 but not -21 ?
[05:23] <nicomachus> regedit: no, not really. did you mark all those as auto-installed? including the -19?
[05:24] <regedit> nicomachus: yes... should i not have?
[05:25] <nicomachus> well I don't think it matters, really, but it probably has something do with that.
[05:26] <ericcaron> *is curious about this auto-remove kernel.
[05:28] <regedit> oh well i'll just wait for another kernel release and see then...
[05:28] <regedit> nicomachus: where was it located again please?
[05:28] <nicomachus> regedit: where was what located?
[05:29] <regedit> nvm found it /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels
[05:29] <regedit> ericcaron: ^
[05:29] <regedit> also /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal
[05:30] <nicomachus> yep. I would NOT recommend editing those.
[05:30] <nicomachus> unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing.
[05:30] <ericcaron> so if i remove some of the kernal will this speed my Kubuntu up  some? lol
[05:30] <ericcaron> i know to keep at least the last 3 kernels ... just in cast
[05:30] <ericcaron> case*
[05:30] <nicomachus> ericcaron: not likely....
[05:31] <ericcaron> good thing my laptop is for testing only lol and not an expensive new one to get stupid with ;)
[05:32] <nicomachus> ericcaron: if you want you can check 'sudo ls /boot' to see how many kernels are chillin there
[05:32] <regedit> aight im off, cheers
[05:33] <ericcaron> heh i def will one sec.
[05:35] <ericcaron> not as many as i thought.   so not worth touching just yet
[05:38] <ericcaron> :P lots to learn     thank goodness i have something to test things on ;)
[05:47] <ericcaron> steam work decent if i wanted to try out some games via kubuntu? or still a lot of bugs to fix?
[05:47] <nicomachus> ericcaron: steam is great on linux now. not a TON of games, but lots. and lots more on the way.
[05:48] <ericcaron> hmm hoping to at least get something working on my old macbook :P just to see it play something would be nice
[05:48] <foxlet> I seem to have an issue with a C710’s trackpad under 14.04.3.
[05:49] <foxlet> It doesn’t work at all.
[05:49] <ericcaron> try enabling your trackpad?
[05:49] <ericcaron> has it ever worked or just stopped working?
[05:50] <foxlet> ericcaron: The trackpad can’t be disabled as far as I’m aware, and it has worked before.
[05:50] <nicomachus> foxlet: yes it can. when did it stop working?
[05:50] <foxlet> nicomachus: When making the move from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04.
[05:50] <foxlet> Via a clean installation.
[05:51] <ericcaron> you probably just need to go under the devices section in your system settings and just turn it on :) i had to do the same for my macbook pro
[05:51] <nicomachus> foxlet: ah, ok. apparently ubuntu blacklists a pretty key module for that particular trackpad.
[05:51] <foxlet> nicomachus: I had already removed the blacklist for the i2c module if that’s what you’re referring to.
[05:51]  * nicomachus stops typing the long command he was entering...
[05:51] <nicomachus> well then.
[05:52] <Gallomimia> sigh... i just want grub to work. that's all
[05:55] <foxlet> ericcaron: Devices section?
[05:56] <nicomachus> foxlet: system settings --> Mouse & Touchpad
[05:56] <ericcaron> what nico said :)
[05:57] <ericcaron> sometimes they simply disable them. and the easiest solution is well easy
[05:57] <foxlet> ericcaron: Nothing notable there.
[05:57] <nicomachus> everytime someone says "nico" I start singing The Velvet Underground...
[05:58] <nicomachus> foxlet: there's an interesting setup script on this forum page that may be helpful in some way: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187
[06:00] <nicomachus> foxlet: just looking at the commands the guy did from within his ubuntu VM.
[06:00] <foxlet> nicomachus: It seems to be for the C720.
[06:00] <nicomachus> hmm... so it is.
[06:01] <ericcaron> lets cross fingers and hope it works for ya ;)
[06:02] <nicomachus> I wouldn't
[06:02] <ericcaron> no fingers nico? lol
[06:02] <nicomachus> since it mostly seems to be dealing with the i2c modules issue.
[06:03] <nicomachus> foxlet: after removing the blacklist did you reset the proper loading order?
[06:04] <nicomachus> foxlet: echo "softdep chromeos_laptop pre: i2c-core i2c-i801 cyapa" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/chromeos_laptop.conf
[06:04] <foxlet> nicomachus: The order in /etc/modules?
[06:05] <han-solo_> hello
[06:05] <nicomachus> foxlet: not sure, I'm looking at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrubuntu/comments/34d6qs/help_acer_c710_touchpad_support_with_ubuntu_1504/cqtr1xd
[06:08] <nicomachus> han-solo_: hello
[06:11] <ericcaron> curious nico. you ever play around with kali os? :P
[06:11] <nicomachus> nope. just ubuntu. and only started around ~12.04
[06:12] <ericcaron> ah  started kubuntu on my macbook pro first gen intel ... middle of last month.
[06:14] <ericcaron> Long road of learning via trial and error ahead of me i am sure of it . :)
[06:15] <nicomachus> only way to learn.
[06:15] <foxlet> nicomachus: Nope, no changes.
[06:16] <ericcaron> i sure did learn. had the (inramfs) error :P showed that error who's boss though ;)
[06:16] <Guest24902> hello
[06:16] <Guest24902> !help
[06:16] <nicomachus> foxlet: ok. do you have an external mouse lying around?
[06:16] <nicomachus> Guest24902: what's your issue?
[06:16] <foxlet> I tried out Ubuntu back when 7.10 was a thing.
[06:17] <foxlet> nicomachus: Yes, I’ve been using a Bluetooth mouse during the whole convo.
[06:18] <foxlet> Connected it via terminal commands.
[06:18] <nicomachus> foxlet: ok. what's the output of ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices '?
[06:21] <beylul-gunay> olner
[06:21] <foxlet> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113278/
[06:23] <nicomachus> foxlet: hmm... doesn't seem to be detecting your touchpad at all. so it's definitely a kernel issue.
[06:23] <han-solo_> hey, why can't we assign shortcuts to <escape> key?
[06:23] <nicomachus> what are the contents of your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[06:23] <nicomachus> foxlet: ^
[06:24] <ericcaron> han-solo_: because it's your only way to escape ;)
[06:24] <han-solo_> that's what i wanted to do ;)
[06:25] <han-solo_> instead of <alt+f4>
[06:25] <nixon1> I have Ubuntu 15.10 x86_64 running on my system. I'm facing a very strange problem.
[06:25] <ericcaron> try a combo it should work no? like alt+esc?
[06:25] <ericcaron> whats the problem nixon1
[06:25] <han-solo_> i was thinking, just <esc> :)
[06:25] <foxlet> ericcaron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113287
[06:25] <nicomachus> !ask | nixon1
[06:25] <nixon1> When I boot into system , it doesn't shows the login screen. Instead it presents a grey screen.
[06:26] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | nixon1
[06:26] <nicomachus> nixon1 try this ^
[06:26] <ericcaron> thanx fox having a gander at it :)
[06:26] <nixon1> the only work around I've got is to go to tty1, then sudo pm-suspend then wake up and killall Xorg presents the login screen
[06:27] <nicomachus> LOL, foxlet don't kill me.. but try putting a space after the # on your ic2 there.
[06:27] <nixon1> I have intel+amd graphics cards
[06:27] <nicomachus> foxlet: or just erase that completely.
[06:28] <foxlet> nicomachus: I removed the line at one point, which didn’t change anything.
[06:28] <Sniper41m> how can i see the running processes? or like an alternative to task manager in windows. what is the command ?
[06:28] <nicomachus> Sniper41m: htop
[06:28] <nixon1> adding nomodeset to boot parameter doesn't help
[06:28] <nixon1> @nicomachus
[06:29] <han-solo_> sniper: ps aux
[06:29] <han-solo_> will do, i guess
[06:30] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install?
[06:31] <ericcaron> you able to take a snap and pop it on here for us to have a look at what you are seeing nixon1?
[06:31] <nicomachus> ericcaron: if he can't login he can't screenshot. :)
[06:31] <han-solo_> except with an external camera ;)
[06:32] <nicomachus> pfffft. like everyone carries one of those in their pocket or something...
[06:32] <ericcaron> cellphone ;) nico :P
[06:32] <han-solo_> cellphones.....
[06:32]  * foxlet takes out his DSLR
[06:32] <han-solo_> right
[06:32] <han-solo_> :)
[06:32] <ericcaron> :)
[06:33] <ericcaron> it seems to be same error i fixed quite easily but i want to be sure nico1
[06:33] <nicomachus> foxlet: well, I'm a bit out of ideas on that touchpad... you may try submitting a bug report and see if anything comes up. see this page for more info on what they'll request for that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[06:33] <han-solo_> i wish there was an ubuntu distro named 'yodabuntu' :)
[06:33] <ericcaron> nixon1*
[06:34] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install or upgrade or existing or what?
[06:34] <foxlet> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113316/
[06:34] <ericcaron> so grey screen. no error messages? can't type nothing in nixon1?
[06:34] <foxlet> dmesg seems to show some warnings.
[06:35] <ericcaron> you do any "fixes" of any kind like fsck before fox?
[06:36] <ericcaron> seems virtually all issues i've ever ran into seem to get fixed with it.... (not all but the few ive run into)
[06:37] <nicomachus> foxlet: it really, really seems to point to that i2c issue.
[06:37] <han-solo_> i need a raspberry pie 2 B
[06:37] <nicomachus> foxlet: just for sanity sake, and to double check, let's run these commands again.
[06:38] <nicomachus> foxlet: sed 's/blacklist i2c_i801/#blacklist i2c_i801/g' -i /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[06:38] <nicomachus> then: echo "softdep chromeos_laptop pre: i2c-core i2c-i801 cyapa" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/chromeos_laptop.conf
[06:38] <foxlet> nicomachus: Checking with nano, the contents seem to be there.
[06:39] <nicomachus> foxlet: just run the commands anyway. :)
[06:39] <nixon1> nicomachus: any help?
[06:39] <han-solo_> i had some problems with the <chromium> browser. It just restarts my system whenever i close the browser
[06:39] <han-solo_> weird!
[06:39] <foxlet> nicomachus: The sed regex replacement and the write with echo?
[06:39] <nicomachus> nixon1: I asked you a couple questions that I'm waiting for an answer on
[06:40] <nicomachus> foxlet: yes.
[06:40] <nixon1> I got disconnected. can you please repost the questions? nicomachus
[06:41] <nicomachus> nixon1: is this a fresh install, an upgrade, or what?
[06:41] <nixon1> upgrade
[06:41] <foxlet> nicomachus: OK, they were executed.
[06:42] <nicomachus> foxlet: now reboot and see if there's any change.
[06:42] <nixon1> nicomachu: it is an upgrade. No fresh install after 12.04
[06:42] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. and you're on 14.04 now?
[06:43] <nixon1> nicomachus: on 15.10
[06:43] <han-solo_> you use a graphics card?
[06:43] <foxlet> nicomachus: Nope, no change.
[06:43] <nicomachus> foxlet: it's gotta be some sort of bug then.
[06:43] <nixon1> han-solo: yes. intel + amd hd 8670m
[06:43] <han-solo_> remove the graphics card and see
[06:44] <nicomachus> nixon1: can you get to TTY?
[06:44] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[06:45] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok, go to a TTY and login, then ' lspci | grep VGA ', let's see what driver you're working with.
[06:45] <nixon1> okay
[06:45] <nixon1> nicomachus: right now I'm logged in to gui
[06:46] <nicomachus> oh? how'd you get that working?
[06:46] <han-solo_> :/
[06:47] <nixon1> nicomachus: went to tty, then 'sudo pm-suspend', then after waking up, 'sudo killall Xorg'
[06:47] <nicomachus> huh. ok then. well instead of lspci do ' sudo lshw -C video ' and paste the output to a pastebin, then link here.
[06:47] <nixon1> nicomachu: this get's the login screen, and I can log. But needs to be repeated every time I boot
[06:48] <nicomachus> yea it's probably a video driver issue. let's see what you're working with with that lshw command.
[06:49] <nixon1> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113373/
[06:50] <nixon1> han-solo_:it's a laptop
[06:50] <nicomachus> nixon1: didn't you say AMD HD?
[06:50] <han-solo_> ow. sorry
[06:51] <nixon1> nicomachus: result of lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/14113377/
[06:51] <ericcaron> zero latency nice :P
[06:52] <nicomachus> nixon1: do you know if you were using the radeon driver or the fglrx before this upgrade?
[06:52] <nixon1> I was
[06:52] <nicomachus> those are two different options... which was it
[06:53] <nixon1> nicomachus: radeon
[06:54] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. form a terminal, ' sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon '
[06:54] <nicomachus> from a terminal **
[06:54] <nicomachus> not form
[06:55] <nixon1> nicomachus: xserver-xorg-video-radeon is already the newest version
[06:55] <nicomachus> ok, let's try switching it to the fglrx then.
[06:56] <jpx21> quit
[06:56]  * jpx21 quit
[06:56] <nicomachus> easiest way is to do it with the "additional drivers" menu in your software sources
[06:56] <JeDa> jpx21: /quit
[06:56] <nicomachus> jpx21: /quit
[06:56] <jpx21> tx ;)
[06:56] <JeDa> nicomachus: ninja'd
[06:57] <nicomachus> jerk!
[06:57] <nicomachus> :P
[06:57] <jpx21> you guys use irssi?
[06:57] <nicomachus> yes, but that's not on-topic here.
[06:57] <nixon1> nicomachus: I tried . Didn't work
[06:57] <nicomachus> nixon1: you switched the driver but still get the grey screen?
[06:58] <ericcaron> have you tried
[06:58] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes. I've already tried
[06:58] <ericcaron> fsck /dev/sda1  ( or whatever number its installed on? )
[06:58] <jpx21> but i just installed irssi on my ubuntu server and I want to use tmux to have it constantly logged in
[06:59] <ericcaron> it usually can fix most errors.
[06:59] <nicomachus> ericcaron: what
[06:59] <jpx21> and when i installed irssi it said to head over to #ubuntu
[06:59] <nixon1> nicomachus: weird thing is that i get the login screen after pm-suspend and killall Xorg from tty
[07:00] <nicomachus> yea... killing xorg made me think it was the xorg radeon driver giving issues.
[07:00] <nixon1> nicomachus: killall Xorg without pm-suspend doesn't work
[07:00] <ericcaron> fsck /dev/sda1   (used this to fix a boot two seperate boot errors.
[07:00] <nixon1> gives the same issue
[07:00] <nicomachus> nixon1: pm-suspend is power management, right? odd
[07:01] <nixon1> nicomachus: yeah
[07:01] <ericcaron> bug in the power management. did linux get a fix for the  delete  button login bypass hack?
[07:02] <ericcaron> hitting the delete button exactly 28 times bypasses all the login stuff and gets you straight to the desktop.
[07:03] <nicomachus> nixon1: the RadeonDriver page on the ubuntu wiki has a grub parameter for DPM. perhaps try adding ' radeon.dpm=1 ' after quiet splash on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line?
[07:04] <nixon1> nicomachus: let me try
[07:05] <han-solo2> i hate this lag
[07:05] <nixon1> too much lag
[07:06]  * nicomachus has no lag...
[07:06] <han-solo_> i have like 5Kbps max speed
[07:06] <han-solo_> how pathetic
[07:07] <ericcaron> no lag in here at all (only thing that doesnt have lag lol)
[07:07]  * han-solo_ is using a dial-up conn.
[07:07] <ericcaron> i hope nixon1 has issue fixed :)
[07:07] <nicomachus> han-solo_: that's unfortunate. :( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14113424/
[07:08] <han-solo_> what's that?
[07:08] <nicomachus> a speedtest from my machine.
[07:08] <han-solo_> you're not gonna make me jealous, are you? :)
[07:08] <nicomachus> just a bit.
[07:09] <han-solo_> loadin.....
[07:09] <foxlet> I guess no one has an idea on the trackpad, then.
[07:09] <nicomachus> foxlet: I'm all out, man. I'm sorry.
[07:09] <han-solo_> shit
[07:09] <nicomachus> and the real experts are all sleeping.
[07:09] <han-solo_> asfdjafh sdkjsfkljf
[07:09] <nicomachus> language, han-solo_
[07:09] <han-solo_> i'm gonna kill myself
[07:10] <nicomachus> :) let's keep the off-topic chat to a minimum.
[07:10] <han-solo_> yeah
[07:10] <foxlet> nicomachus: I find it difficult to file a bug since I don’t even know the manufacturer of the trackpad.
[07:10] <nicomachus> foxlet: Asus..
[07:10] <foxlet> I don’t think the i2c bus provides it either.
[07:10] <foxlet> nicomachus: The laptop is made by Acer...
[07:11] <han-solo_> nico:64 bytes from telehack.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=326 ttl=53 time=2979 ms
[07:11] <nicomachus> right. acer.
[07:11] <nicomachus> han-solo_: that's a ping, not a speedtest.
[07:11] <foxlet> nicomachus: I’m not sure if the trackpad model would be “Acer” though.
[07:11] <han-solo_> dude, see the time
[07:11] <ericcaron> maybe ask asus about it? who knows...... i don't think chromeos is widely supported just yet   but starting to fox
[07:11] <nicomachus> foxlet: just provide as much info as possible.
[07:12] <rww> acer is not asus.
[07:12] <spirit__> i
[07:12] <spirit__> hi
[07:12] <foxlet> ericcaron: It’s Acer.
[07:12] <nicomachus> spirit__: hi
[07:12] <spirit__> wow it works
[07:12] <spirit__> :)
[07:12] <spirit__> lol
[07:12] <foxlet> ericcaron: Also, chromeos was completely wiped from this machine, so I don’t see how it would be relevant.
[07:12] <Gallomimia> well, i managed to get my grub trying to mount my raid. it failed for some reason... and it was installed on the wrong device :P
[07:12] <nicomachus> spirit__: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:12] <ericcaron> try troubleshooting with acer.  for the hardware side.
[07:13] <spirit__> no
[07:13] <ericcaron> it may be they already have something you can use to fix the issue :)
[07:13] <Gallomimia> how frightening. what i lucked into to fix it i'll never know
[07:13] <nixon1> nicomachus:on boot I get radeon 0000:03:00.0: VCE init error
[07:13] <spirit__> `Cam
[07:13] <nicomachus> spirit__: ok, this channel is strictly for ubuntu support. you can chat on #ubuntu-offtopic or ask about IRC on #freenode
[07:13] <nixon1> nicomachus: and the same issue persists
[07:14] <spirit__> ok
[07:14] <foxlet> ericcaron: Windows and 12.04 work with the trackpad, so I don’t believe it would be hardware.
[07:14] <foxlet> dmidecode also reports the trackpad to be enabled in 14.04, so it’s quite odd.
[07:15] <nixon1> nicomachus: also it takes around 1 minute to get to TTY
[07:15] <nicomachus> foxlet: it's a kernel bug.
[07:15] <ericcaron> you do any other repairs like fsck ?
[07:15] <nicomachus> nixon1: I'm getting out of my depth, but you said you tried the proprietary drivers?
[07:15] <foxlet> ericcaron: You got an example?
[07:15] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[07:16] <nicomachus> nixon1: both of them? fglrx and fglrx-updates?
[07:16] <nixon1> nicomachus: yes
[07:16] <nicomachus> nixon1: what's the laptop model? to check for bugs or similar issues
[07:16] <ericcaron> a simple one would be (from terminal) fsck /dev/sda1 hit enter and hit yes to all if there is anything to be fixed
[07:17] <nixon1> nicomachus: dell inspiring 3537
[07:17] <nicomachus> ericcaron: fsck checks the filesystem, not the kernel or drivers. it won't work here.
[07:18] <nixon1> ericcaron: I have done it for other issues
[07:18] <nixon1> ericcaron: it doesn't fix this issue
[07:18] <ericcaron> ah ok. well keep trying until you get something don't give up.
 which ps command would show me most cup and momeory usage process, for eg: in descending order
[07:19] <nicomachus> nixon1: what kernel are you running? (uname -a)
[07:20] <nicomachus> !htop | Sniper41m
[07:20] <han-solo_> sniper: did you try google
[07:20] <nicomachus> ugh. Sniper41m: htop will show that, plus running processes.
[07:21] <han-solo_> anyway, ps aux | sort -nr -k 4 | head -5
[07:21] <Sniper41m> htop didn't work, it asked to install doing sudo apt-get,  but top worked
[07:21] <nicomachus> Sniper41m: yes, you'll have to install htop.
[07:21] <han-solo_> that'll do
[07:21] <Sniper41m> thanks guys
[07:21] <phoenix911> anyone having solution for this eclipse error ?
[07:21] <phoenix911> org.eclipse.m2e.logback.configuration: The org.eclipse.m2e.logback.configuration bundle was activated before the state location was initialized.  Will retry after the state location is initialized.
[07:22] <nixon1> nicomachus: 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP
[07:22] <nicomachus> nixon1: that's just a bit behind. run a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:22] <nixon1> nicomachus: okay
[07:23] <JohnConstantine> hi all, how can I share my Ethernet over wireless? so that I can use my laptop as hotspot for other devices
[07:23] <nixon1> nicomachus: it will take some time. I'm on a slower net
[07:23] <nicomachus> nixon1: ok. beyond that, I'm out of ideas.
[07:24] <nicomachus> and I've gotta go to bed, gf is yelling for me.
[07:24] <nicomachus> night all.
[07:24] <han-solo_> sniper: and gnome-system-monitor, will give you sufficient info, i guess
[07:24] <ericcaron> bet you it will fix the issue :P *crossing fingers for nixon1*
[07:24] <nixon1> nicomachus: thanks man
[07:24] <han-solo_> later nico
[07:24] <awshelp> should i have a firewall running on ubuntu znc server?
[07:25] <awshelp> or is aws instance security groups enough?
[07:25] <JohnConstantine> hi all, how can I share my Ethernet over wireless? so that I can use my laptop as hotspot for other devices
[07:26] <Ben64> JohnConstantine: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[07:29] <ericcaron> anyone know of a command to get my first gen intel macbook pro fans to stay on max all the time? ( they kick in but not long , i don't care about the noise  , would like them on all the time)
[07:32] <ericcaron> eh i'll have to come back later  , just realised the time >.<
[07:32] <awshelp> hey guys, or is aws instance security groups enough? or is aws instance security groups enough?
[07:32] <c|oneman> on OSX it's SMCfancontrol
[07:32] <awshelp> hey guys, should i have a firewall running on ubuntu znc server?or is aws instance security groups enough? **
[07:32] <awshelp> ^^
[07:33] <Ben64> awshelp: patience
[07:33] <awshelp> ok sorry
[07:34] <c272> firewalls do very little for security
[07:34] <c|oneman> when he comes back later this is what he wanted http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/
[07:35] <awshelp> im trying to protect myself
[07:35] <awshelp> any tips?
[07:35] <c272> now if you want to have some good security just focus on who can access what, and when
[07:35] <c272> and then how
[07:35] <c272> also log everything
[07:35] <c272> and i mean logs of logs
[07:36] <c272> also segregate everything, and backup stuff both online and offline
[07:36] <han-solo_> we should have something like,"!add http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/ppa-install-fan-control-ubuntu-macbook/" and it will add to the log and return a number
[07:36] <awshelp> what i am trying to do is prevent the znc port from getting ddosed mainly
[07:36] <Ben64> you can't
[07:36] <han-solo_> so we can access it like '!show <number>'
[07:36] <c|oneman> if your AWS instance just runs ZNC and nothing else, you don't have much to protect except your IRC logs
[07:36] <c272> awshelp: then the best soultion is something upstream, like another spam server
[07:36] <awshelp> i cant put a limit on the maximum number of incoming connections?
[07:37] <c272> awshelp: or then get something like a cloud service to port through
[07:37] <c272> so the service takes the brunt of the attack
[07:37] <c272> and then your servers are okay
[07:38] <awshelp> hmm
[07:38] <awshelp> sounds costly
[07:38] <c272> it can be
[07:38] <awshelp> trying to do this with minimum cost
[07:38] <c272> but what you need depends on the threat model
[07:38] <c272> awshelp: so what's your threat model?
[07:38] <Ben64> then don't worry about it, you can't stop a ddos
[07:38] <c272> ^
[07:38] <awshelp> i am a noob
[07:39] <awshelp> lol
[07:39] <awshelp> dont knwo what a threat model is
[07:39] <awshelp> i cant even type^
[07:39] <c272> awshelp: you model your possible threats, and what is an acceptable level of security to you...
[07:40] <awshelp> hmm ok
[07:40] <c272> so who are you trying to stop?
[07:40] <han-solo_> people do ddos these days? :/
[07:40] <c272> so skids
[07:40] <awshelp> i got ddossed last week
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[07:41] <c272> i'd suggest to pay for a cloud hosting service, and let them deal with the ddos
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> guys keep it ubuntu related issues please
[07:41] <c272> lotuspsychje: this is an ubuntu server issue
[07:41] <awshelp> ^^
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> c272: #ubuntu-server to the rescue
[07:42] <c272> awshelp: my suggestion is to ask the guys in ##security they'll be better for your problems
[07:42] <awshelp> ok thanks for help guys
[07:42] <awshelp> cya
[07:42] <awshelp> <333
[07:42] <han-solo_> huh
[07:42] <han-solo_> :)
[07:50] <donatello673> Hello. I've been trying to get Linux running on my PC. My previous attempt failed for some reason, so I'm trying again with Ubuntu.. I have a simple question:
[07:50] <donatello673> To prepare a USB for my PC with Ubuntu, I need to run this command: hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/ubuntu.iso
[07:50] <foxlet> donatello673: Does your PC have UEFI support?
[07:51] <donatello673> my question is very noobish.. I just need to know how to start the path to my file.
[07:51] <donatello673> foxlet: I don't know.
[07:51] <donatello673> it's fairly new
[07:51] <donatello673> i've installed something on it via USB before
[07:51] <c|oneman> I use actual DVDs because I don't like to learn new things.
[07:51] <donatello673> got no DVDs or DVD player
[07:51] <donatello673> I'd have to burn a DVD at an internet cafe
[07:51] <foxlet> donatello673: It may be better to create a Fat32 filesystem on your USB flash drive, then copy the contents of the ISO.
[07:52] <donatello673> foxlet: just copy ? :O
[07:52] <donatello673> that could work?
[07:52] <donatello673> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx should mention that..
[07:52] <han-solo_> with a loader
[07:52] <foxlet> donatello673: If it’s an UEFI PC, there shouldn’t be a need to do anything else.
[07:52] <donatello673> foxlet: I will bloody try
[07:53] <donatello673> han-solo_: what do you mean with a loader?
[07:53] <foxlet> donatello673: Note that it means to copy the contents from the mounted ISO in OS X, not just copying the .iso as a single file.
[07:54] <donatello673> Yeah. If I extract the ISO I'll get the contents.
[07:55] <donatello673> do I want GUID or MBR?
[07:56] <Ben64> donatello673: why can't you follow the steps you posted
[07:57] <foxlet> donatello673: UEFI installations usually uses a GUID partition style.
[07:57] <donatello673> Ben64: simplyl because I don't know how to start the path to the .iso
[07:57] <donatello673> foxlet: do I copy the contents of the folder or the folder with the contents in it?
[07:58] <Ben64> did you see the tip at the top of the instructions
[07:59] <donatello673> Ben64: I didn't, but I tried that and it didn't work. I must've done it work despite the dragging.
[08:00] <foxlet> donatello673: It would be the contents of the folder.
[08:05] <donatello673> I tried installing trisquel and it just hands with a blinking underscore. Putting Ubuntu on the USB with an app to write the image didn't make a difference to the PC and it still boots up thinking trisquel is there
[08:05] <donatello673> so i might just get a DVD I guess
[08:07] <Bluerate> hello everyone, I deleted complete downloaded file of utorrent and when I try to open gui, I am getting this error
[08:07] <Bluerate> File not found during integrity check: ./resume.dat.old
[08:07] <Bluerate> any advice
[08:09] <c|oneman> Bluerate: utorrent is not an ubuntu program
[08:10] <Bluerate> c|oneman you mean I don't have to ask it here
[08:10] <c|oneman> I mean utorrent is a windows program
[08:10] <c|oneman> how do you expect it to run on linux?
[08:11] <auronandace> !appdb | Bluerate
[08:11] <donatello673> Ben64: i can't imagine what I'm doing wrong
[08:12] <c|oneman> donatello673: that's what I usually do after spending 10minutes trying to make a USB.
[08:12] <c|oneman> I give it a fair chance, then I move on with my life
[08:13] <Bluerate> c|oneman, auronandace & ubottu: but I am using it on ubuntu 14.04
[08:13] <c|oneman> switch to a native application like deluge or transmission
[08:14] <bazhang> there is a linux version of it
[08:14] <fload> anyone ever been in EFI boot hell? Ive been trying to install linux mint on this damn intel baytrail mini pc, and I finally got it installed but now i cant boot into it only can boot into the liveusb, Ive tried boot-repair and a few different grub commands but it always boots me into EFI shell
[08:14] <rww> !mintsupport
[08:16] <fload> it doesnt matter if its mint or vanilla ubuntu it still wont boot
[08:16] <fload> this is more of a bios problem/ efi
[08:17] <bazhang> fload, try ##linux then or the mintsupport channel
[08:17] <rww> which Mint will happily help you with.
[08:17] <fload> ok thanks
[08:18] <bazhang> Bluerate, thats the linux version, correct?
[08:18] <Bluerate> bazhang: yes
[08:19] <bazhang> Bluerate, its not part of the ubuntu repos, but you could see if utorrent has an irc channel here on freenode, and/or try their support forums on the web
[08:20] <bazhang> Bluerate, you can use alis to find the utorrent channel if any here; going for transmission, or any of the very well supported ubuntu ones is an option as well
[08:20] <bazhang>  /msg alist list utorrent  <---- bluerate for the first alis search
[08:21] <Bluerate> bazhang: thank you
[08:22] <bazhang> Bluerate, on the plus side for transmission is no ads ever, and no paid version, supports magnet links very well
[08:22] <bazhang> !info transmission
[08:24] <Bluerate> bazhang I don't get ur last comment
[08:25] <bazhang> Bluerate, an excellent native no outside repo torrent client is transmission
[08:25] <auronandace> Bluerate: is there a feature you need from utorrent that transmission doesn't have? why not use transmission?
[08:26] <bazhang> Bluerate, modern torrent clients have something called magnet links
[08:26] <Bluerate> auronandance how to use transmission
[08:26] <bazhang> Bluerate, transmission has good support for those
[08:27] <bazhang> sudo apt install transmission   Bluerate
[08:27] <tlt> transmission has been in ubuntu for a while
[08:28] <tlt> he should have it already.
[08:28] <bazhang> default?
[08:28] <auronandace> yes, default
[08:28] <Bluerate> bazhang I installed but how to benefit from it with that issue
[08:28] <bazhang> thought that was deluge
[08:28] <tlt> nah it's actually transmission, bazhang.
[08:28] <tlt> been there a while too
[08:29] <bazhang> Bluerate, no way, thats where you ask the utorrent forums, not here
[08:29] <Bluerate> bazhang okay I understand
[08:30] <red_racer12> what's the easiest way to create a usb install with persistance? ubootnetin never finishes for me, booting into a live environment and running start up disk creator fails
[08:30] <red_racer12> i'm kinda perplexed
[08:31] <tlt> install to the usb device just as if you would install to a harddrive
[08:31] <bazhang> red_racer12, why from a live environment
[08:31] <tlt> then you have a full system on that usb device.
[08:31] <red_racer12> okay tlt i will install to the usb as if i were to install to a hard drive right now.
[08:31] <tlt> good luck!
[08:31] <red_racer12> bazhang: well, i will start from the beginning, i have a freenas system with dying hard drives, i want to test all the drives using ubuntu disk utiilty.
[08:32] <red_racer12> so i have a usb stick with ubuntu, i thought hey let me use that. unfortunately it isnt that reliable for 8tb drives
[08:32] <bazhang> ok
[08:32] <tlt> 8tb usb stick?
[08:32] <bazhang> no
[08:32] <red_racer12> i think testing from a live environment might be the problem, so i wanna test from an installed environment
[08:33] <red_racer12> 8tb x 4 seagate drives in gen8 hp proliant microserver
[08:45] <dk00> U guys recommend any of these https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[08:47] <cvetko> hello everyone, how are you, I could find how configure unbound dns with dnscrypt, i think that can improve my privacy  to encrypt my dns request .... even if the dns is in localhost
[08:47] <slidinghorn>  dk00 there are plenty of good ideas in the article, what in particular do you need help with?
[08:49]  * slidinghorn is about to go to sleep, but he'll try to help in the next couple minutes if he can
[08:50] <dk00> Sorry walked away
[08:50] <dk00> Nothing really
[08:50] <dk00> Just looking for good idea
[08:50] <dk00> S
[08:50] <dk00> I am noobish mostly
[08:50] <dk00> Thanks slidinghorn
[08:53] <slidinghorn> dk00: try not to use the enter button as punctuation..makes things hard to follow for others.  In terms of a lot of that article's specifics, I'm not really that familiar, but I'd strongly recommend googling several of those topics, such as configuring your firewall (though it mentions ufw for a server, which is...unconventional..)
[08:54] <slidinghorn> d00: My point is that the article brings several good points to the table, but doesn't seem to take very practical approaches to them.
[08:55] <slidinghorn> dk00 ^^
[08:56]  * slidinghorn is off to bed. Good night folks - good luck!
[08:57] <dk00> Thanks slidinghorn nn
[08:57] <dk00> What is used in place of ufw for server?
[08:58] <calon361> How do I run and debug a MIPS executable?
[08:58] <morrwin> Hey guys, can any of you tell me a good debian distro that can handle 4k screen scaling, I need it to be 1.5x. So far only Ubuntu/Unity has the option and I think the newest Kubuntu KDE. Gnome and stuff only do 1 or 2x.
[08:59] <bazhang> morrwin, ##linux for general linux stuff
[08:59] <mrsam_> hi all...which port i good for SSH?
[08:59] <bazhang> dk00, did you mean iptables
[08:59] <mrsam_> hi all...which port is good for SSH?
[08:59] <dk00> Thanks bazhang
[08:59] <bazhang> !ssh | mrsam_
[09:00] <bazhang> mrsam_, read the Full links
[09:00] <mrsam_> tnx :)
[09:00] <bazhang> calon361, isnt that a ##programming issue ?
[09:01] <john> greetings
[09:01] <Guest58323> greetings
[09:03] <ducasse> dk00: You can use something like ferm, it uses iptables but is easier to write and maintain rules for than to write them directly for iptables.
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> !find ferm
[09:05] <Guest58323> is there a music player for ubuntu that has a proper genre list like itunes does
[09:06] <bazhang> many
[09:06] <bazhang> not sure what you mean by 'propre
[09:06] <Guest58323> proper
[09:07] <bazhang> most all of them
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest58323  audacious is easy to use
[09:07] <bazhang> try rhythmbox for that iTunes-y feel
[09:07] <MonkeyDust> or exaile
[09:08] <baizon> Guest58323: I'm using clementine
[09:09] <dk00> Thanks ducasse
[09:11] <Guest58323> plus is there away to play blue ray movies on linux
[09:11] <ducasse> dk00: There are some tutorials for it out there, just do a search. It's quite easy to get to grips with compared to writing iptables rules directly.
[09:12] <bazhang> mplayer has supported for a long while now Guest58323
[09:12] <Guest58323> thanks
[09:12] <bazhang> !info smplayer
[09:13] <bazhang> that ^
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> Guest58323  you're struggling wi(th multimedia... try and ask in #ubuntustudio
[09:15] <dk00> So ufw is not as good as iptables then?
[09:15] <Ben64> ufw is a front end to iptables
[09:15] <Guest58323> i was just wondering if there was a way of playing blue ray movies on linux as im doing a home theatre pc :)
[09:15] <ducasse> dk00: it's similar to ferm, I like ferm better, though.
[09:17] <dk00> ducasse how come?
[09:17] <dk00> And also why is ufw "unconventional" for Ubuntu server tho?
[09:17] <Ben64> it isn't
[09:18] <ducasse> dk00: I didn't say it was "unconventional" :) ferm is easier imo if you have a lot of rules - I just prefer the syntax. YMMV.
[09:19] <dk00> Hmm ok going to read up on these, thanks ducasse Ben64 bazhang and slidinghorn :-d
[09:20] <dk00> And anyone else I missed :)
[09:22] <dk00> Can ssh port be hacked if using ppk key to login?
[09:23] <dk00> Pem*
[09:24] <Haugli92> Everything can be hacked.
[09:25] <Haugli92> But using a private key instead of a password would make it mrore secure :)
[09:25] <Haugli92> more*
[09:26] <dk00> Thanks
[09:26] <dk00> Also how to change the default port?
[09:27] <ducasse> dk00: pass -p port# in /etc/default/ssh
[09:27] <dk00> Thanks ducasse
[09:35] <aussiemale1> exaile does have a better radio player added to it
[09:39] <red_racer12> i have finished installing ubuntu to a usb stick, it seems to be working very nicely, however it's very slow
[09:40] <red_racer12> is there something i should've done to the usb3.0 corsair slider to make it faster?
[09:43] <baizon> red_racer12: usb has 10MB/s speed, thats damn slow
[09:44] <red_racer12> baizon: i see, that makes sense.
[09:45] <baizon> red_racer12: in comparison, a HDD has 100MB/s
[09:45] <red_racer12> does it not make a difference if i'm using usb3.0 controller and usb3.0 stick?
[09:45] <baizon> red_racer12: yes i makes, you get 1.5x faster write speed then usb 2.0
[09:46] <baizon> red_racer12: usb 3.0 gets the most from "reading"
[09:46] <red_racer12> ah i see
[09:47] <red_racer12> that makes sense, it's taking forever to download and update ubuntu, but i am on usb stick install.
[09:49] <awshelp> ey guys what does a /32 after an ipaddress mean?
[09:50] <Blekpug> What is already installed as an address book ?
[09:51] <baizon> awshelp: The /n = netmask with n number of 1's.
[09:51] <Guest16049> .
[09:51] <baizon> awshelp: <IP_ADDRESS> =<PHONE_NUMBER>111111111111111111 or 32 ones = /32
[09:52] <baizon> awshelp: <IP_ADDRESS> =<PHONE_NUMBER>111111111100000000 or 24 ones = /24
[09:52] <Guest16049> .
[09:52] <baizon> awshelp: also more here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Range_blocks
[09:52] <baizon> Guest16049: pls stop it
[09:53] <awshelp>  hmm ok
[09:53] <awshelp> is it like broadening the ip range or something?
[09:53] <revilo> sorry, i'm kinda newbie here
[09:57] <XSpeed_> Hi, can someone answer to these 3 questions please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/708749/openjdk-icedtea-security-settings or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2306320 Thank you.
[10:00] <kd5loh> sup?
[10:06] <blackflow> Hello folks. How do I submit a bug report to Launchpad? There is no "Submut Bug Report" link.
[10:06] <blackflow> *Submit
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !bug | black
[10:07] <blackflow> cfhowlett: thanks. which package do I Specify for encrypted swap not mounting on boot?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> blackflow, which ubuntu number??
[10:07] <blackflow> cfhowlett: 15.10
[10:08] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ecryptfs?  or whatever you encrypted with
[10:08] <blackflow> LUKS
[10:08] <blackflow> the installer encrypted it.
[10:08] <blackflow> and the problem is not in cryptsetup.
[10:09] <blackflow> something destroys the encrypted swap partition so on reboot, it's not a luks device anymore.
[10:09] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ow.
[10:09] <greenbigfrog> hello
[10:09] <blackflow> and that happens either on shutdown or on reboot, I don't know, I can't find a relevant entry in the logs, only that upon reboot, my swap partition is no longer a luks device.
[10:10] <cfhowlett> blackflow, ask again in channel, I have not seen this issue and not comfortable guessing
[10:10] <blackflow> I'll file a bug report. Just need to know how :) ubuntu-bug is asking me for pid if Choose OTHER, and none of hte given options applies.
[10:10] <blackflow> so is there a way to submit to launchpad directly?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> blackflow, not that I know of.
[10:11] <blackflow> cfhowlett: so it was removed?   I have only ever filed bugs via the bug utility in ubuntu
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> I installed a kernel I built some time ago but now initframs throws an error, if I run upgrade or isntall etc since it thinks the package is broken... df -h: http://hastebin.com/ifuzutewop.erlang_repl upgrade: http://hastebin.com/ayigaqewot.vbs
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> On the web I only find posts of people who do not have enough space on their /boot... the 4.4 kernel is the only one I got installed ATM.
[10:13] <greenbigfrog> Anyone got an idea?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, clean out old kernels
[10:13] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers             too
[10:13] <blackflow> cfhowlett: where do I complain about this? This is an outrage. What if the bug is such that I cannot execute commands from command line?
[10:14] <greenbigfrog> cfhowlett: "the 4.4 kernel is the only one I got installed ATM." and I cleaned already
[10:14] <cfhowlett> blackflow, let me look ...
[10:14] <cfhowlett> greenbigfrog, dpkg -l | grep linux-headers             too
[10:14] <greenbigfrog> zero answer
[10:14] <glebihan_> blackflow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[10:15] <cfhowlett> blackflow, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[10:15] <blackflow> glebihan_: ah, much obliged. Is that linked anywhere publicly?
[10:15] <glebihan_> blackflow, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net
[10:15] <greenbigfrog> ll /boot/: http://hastebin.com/esuyomodex.hs
[10:15] <blackflow> glebihan_: thanks.
[10:16] <glebihan_> blackflow, you're welcome
[10:18] <pupanos> лггищгнищгнищгищгнищ
[10:37] <Exagone313> Hi, I have a dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu Server (14.04 I think, not sure). I tried to acess to ext4 partition with ext2fsd on Windows and now I can't boot on Ubuntu, I see "error: no such partition" then a command prompt "grub rescue". I tried ls, and it doe snot see partitions in (hd1) which is Linux I suppose. What do I do? Thanks for your help.
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, get your ubuntu USB, boot it and examine your partitions.
[10:38] <Exagone313> i don't have any usb or cd
[10:38] <Exagone313> right now
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Exagone313, the wise ubuntu user ALWAYS has a USB -- or 3.  time to make one.
[10:39] <Exagone313> i don't have
[10:39] <Exagone313> i forgot to take it
[10:40] <Exagone313> there is no way to work with the command prompt?
[10:40] <Exagone313> I can still access the files with ext2fsd on windows so the partition is not really broken
[10:46] <Exagone313> no, now I can't access the files, but nothing is lost
[10:50] <Walex2> Exagone313: that's not a happy situation, because that means that somehow MS-Windows has deleted or recreated partitions.
[10:50] <Exagone313> ok I see
[10:50] <Exagone313> it was almost a fresh install
[10:50] <Walex2> Exagone313: unless your Ubuntu filetrees were inside LVM, and you used 'ext2fsd' directly on top
[10:51] <Exagone313> now ext2fsd sees a ext3 partition instead of ext4 after a reboot, and without space available
[10:51] <Exagone313> and it can't mount it
[10:51] <Walex2> Exagone313: ext2fsd cannot be used on 'ext4' partitions
[10:51] <Exagone313> i think this program caused the problem, won't try it again
[10:52] <Walex2> Exagone313: 'ext4' filetrees internally are quite different from 'ext2' and 'ext3' ones except some parts that might make 'ext2fsd' guess it is 'ext3'
[10:53] <Exagone313> but before, it was psosible to access the files, or just the tree I didn't try the files
[10:53] <Walex2> Exagone313: ahhh thiough the 'ext2fsd' site says recent versions support 'ext4'
[10:53] <Exagone313> yes
[10:53] <Walex2> Exagone313: so the question is whether you installed ubuntu on LVM
[10:53] <Exagone313> no
[10:54] <Walex2> Exagone313: then use MS-Windows to download a live-CD distro like GRML and use the tools on that to diagnose your system
[10:54] <Exagone313> i'll reinstall when i'll have my usb key back
[10:54] <Exagone313> i prefer to reinstall, it was a fresh install
[10:55] <Exagone313> thanks anyway
[11:14] <robbenfa> ciao
[11:16] <robbenfa> ciao
[11:17] <shredding> In a Makefile, I have "STAGING_DB_ID = $(shell ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"docker ps | grep database" | awk '{print $$1}')"
[11:17] <shredding> How would i need to escape a variable to have that ip as a variable as well?
[11:23] <studentttu> hey can anyone help with intel parallel studio installation stuff here? I installed everything, but im unable to use the
[11:23] <studentttu> ifort compiler
[11:23] <studentttu> for some reason
[11:23] <studentttu> (im a nuub)
[11:24] <han-solo_> hello
[11:27] <studentttu> MAMAAAAAAAAA OOOHOHO, didnt mean to make you cry. If im not back again this time tomorrow. carry on carry onb
[11:28] <shady> hi
[11:35] <Guest6730> hey how can I allow my Geforce 840m Graphics card to run instead of built-in intel integrated graphics?
[11:45] <Alphakarem> Guest6730, have you checked your BIOS for graphics order ?
[11:47] <Guest6730> nope
[11:47] <Guest6730> Alphakarem: should I check?
[11:55] <Walex2> Guest8786: Alphakarem: it is most likely a laptop
[11:57] <c0ld> new to ubuntu.. just tried logging in from hexchat
[11:57] <c0ld> hi guys
[12:04] <dacronmale> thank you
[12:10] <guy_> what is the proper way to install a -dbgsym kernel ? i tried following https://nickjpavey.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/installing-kernel-debug-symbols-in-ubuntu-14-04/ and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages but i do not seem to find a dbgsym for 3.13.0-35-generic
[12:17] <MACscr> [306555.447390] type=1400 audit(1450613775.203:3047): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="lxc-container-default" pid=21394 comm="ps" requested_mask="trace" denied_mask="trace" peer="unconfined"
[12:17] <MACscr> how do if find out what was actualyl blocked?
[12:19] <studentttu> How to install newest gcc compiler? I installed with sudo apt-get install gcc, but gcc --version says 4.8.4 (2013 !!!!!) newest is already 2015, 5.3.0 in website
[12:21] <han-solo1> test!
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !test | han-solo_,
[12:23] <han-solo_> nah
[12:23] <han-solo_> i was just testing my nick
[12:23] <studentttu> han solo died in star wars_
[12:23] <studentttu> ?
[12:24] <yeats> studentttu: in general, you'll want to use the packaged version unless there's a specific need for for something newer, but https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC has instructions if you want
[12:25] <yeats> studentttu: but if you go that route, don't expect it to be easy or fun
[12:25] <studentttu> yeats:  I downloaded the newest one but I dont understand the installing instructions https://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html
[12:25] <studentttu> yea but the ubuntu version is from 2013, its 2 years old, I actually need the december 2015 version
[12:26] <yeats> !compile | studentttu
[12:28] <akik> studentttu: there's a ppa for newer versions of gcc https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[12:30] <akik> studentttu: if you want to compile it yourself, read about "make bootstrap"
[12:31] <LonelyDanbo> how do I learn how to do command lines properly? I grew up with DOS but it's hurting my head trying to figure out why something works sometimes but not others, like with quotes or forslash/backslash/spaces.
[12:32] <k1l_> !terminal | LonelyDanbo
[12:32] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, you weren't born knowing DOS, you learned it.  you learn ubuntu / linux the same way
[12:32] <LonelyDanbo> I've got this janky line to try and run a windows program in Wine. not sure if I should be asking specifically in #winehq since they're less busy and it's not specifically a Wine question.
[12:33] <k1l_> so its a windows terminal command? then try ##windows
[12:33] <narasimha> hi
[12:33] <LonelyDanbo> no it';s not a windows terminal command.
[12:34] <LonelyDanbo> I'm trying to make a shortcut in Xubuntu to run something in Wine.
[12:35] <studentttu> I have ubuntu 14.04 can i upgrade to 15.10 easily somehow? without destroying my files
[12:36] <k1l_> studentttu: not easily since you need to step by step upgrades and 14.10 is already dead.
[12:37] <studentttu> k1l_:  what do you mean with 14.10?
[12:37] <k1l_> studentttu: for upgrades you need to upgrade to every next ubuntu version. 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[12:38] <k1l_> except the LTS to LTS upgrade, which is 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04(still  alpha)
[12:40] <studentttu> k1l_:  so I i just install 15.10 now, I can upgrade to 16.04 easily when it comes out?
[12:40] <studentttu> *if
[12:40] <akik> LonelyDanbo: i think you can specify the windows (wine) command to be in " ... " so you don't need to use backslashes
[12:41] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. or you make the upgrade path i described above with 3 upgrades, but for the first 2 upgrades you need some manual work since 14.10 is already shut down
[12:41] <LonelyDanbo> yeah but sometimes one thing doesn't work with another, like when you want to add -openGL or something. I dunno. I don't understand the rules.
[12:43] <studentttu> k1l_:  so is it possible to upgrade to 14.04 -> 15.04 easily
[12:43] <studentttu> since u said its LTS to LTS
[12:43] <studentttu> i have 14.04
[12:43] <k1l_> 15.04 is no LTS
[12:43] <studentttu> ohh
[12:43] <baizon> !LTS | studentttu
[12:43] <k1l_> every second year
[12:43] <studentttu> k1l_:  so if i upgrade to 14.10, will it keep my files_
[12:43] <studentttu> ?
[12:44] <studentttu> or format them clean
[12:44] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. upgrades do keep the files
[12:45] <studentttu> k1l_:  how should I upgrade to 14.10 then
[12:45] <LonelyDanbo> Well it seems to be running. I took it all out and just put in "wine WoW-64.exe -openGL" and used the working directory and the wineprefix, so hopefully that's enough.
[12:45] <k1l_> studentttu: _but_ since 14.10 is not supported anymore you need to do some manual work to be able to upgrade. and after that you need to ASAP upgrade to 15.04 since 14.10 doesnt get any security updates anymore since its shut down already
[12:45] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | studentttu
[12:49] <studentttu> k1l_:  whats the codename for 14.10?
[12:49] <k1l_> utopic. but you dont change that
[12:49] <studentttu> wait what do you mean dont change what
[12:50] <k1l_> you put the codename from the release you are currently using into the edited sources list
[12:51] <hard_iron> how to send a private message to someone?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !pm | hard_iron
[12:51] <k1l_> hard_iron: /query user
[12:52] <hard_iron> !ubottu is it like this
[12:52] <hard_iron> !pm | ubottu ?
[12:52] <hard_iron> ok ok
[12:52] <hard_iron> actually i want to work on some open source project
[12:52] <hard_iron> but since i am new to all this
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !contribute | hard_iron
[12:52] <hard_iron> so i need your help
[12:53] <mrsam_> hi...i wanna record my destop with my voice...wich program is good for ubuntu?
[12:53] <Guest> hello alruists, i am getting an error message while insalling a soft or updates.. the msg shows.. E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[12:53] <Guest> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.medibuntu.org_dists_precise_free_binary-i386_Packages
[12:53] <cymblot> mrsam : simple screen recorder
[12:53] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, desktop recorder
is it good or noT?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, or recordmydesktop
[12:54] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, install it and test for yourself
[12:56] <hard_iron> someone please guide me from basic
[12:56] <hard_iron> how should i start working on a project
[12:56] <cfhowlett> hard_iron, did you read the link? that is where you start
[12:57] <hard_iron> yeah i saw that
[12:57] <hard_iron> cfhowlwtt    i know c and java
[12:57] <hard_iron> so can i work on any project?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> hard_iron, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[12:58] <dangered> I can't even find a good remote desktop application for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS... Chrome Remote Desktop is broken, VNC I couldn't get quite set up, etc etc. Any idea what the best solution is?
[13:00] <mrsam_> HOW can i understand that my driver of graphic is install or noT?
[13:01] <flux242> hi, are there any plans to get rid of python2.7 for the 16.04?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> flux242, I believe it was announced that python 3 would be the default for 16.04
[13:03] <flux242> default means no python2 libs at all or default means that it'll be used for gnome?
[13:04] <romain__> yo qqn a réussit à installer eclipse sur raspberry ubuntu mate ?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> flux242, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3
[13:04] <romain__> what
[13:05] <cfhowlett> https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Python-Plans
[13:05] <romain__> y quoi hexchat
[13:06] <k1l_> romain__: this channel is english. try #ubuntu-fr for french
[13:06] <romain__> ok thx
[13:06] <asbak> i want help regarding open source
[13:06] <romain__> how do i change
[13:06] <asbak> please someone help
[13:06] <k1l_> asbak: this is ubuntu support. what is the issue
[13:06] <romain__> translate please?
[13:07] <asbak> ?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> romain__, go to the french channel for french.  no translation here
[13:07] <sruli> i am trying to install negotiator-host for my qemu, but dont know how https://pypi.python.org/pypi/negotiator-host can anyone help?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !contribute | asbak,
[13:07] <aldebaran> romain: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:07] <studentttu> k1l_:  do I just sudo do-release-upgrade after installing the update managers and updating lists
[13:08] <mrsam_> HOW can i understand that my driver of graphic card is install or noT?
[13:08] <asbak> ubottu
[13:08] <bekks> mrsam_: Whoch graphics card do you have?
[13:08] <yeats> mrsam_: look for an application called "Additional Drivers"
[13:08] <k1l_> studentttu: yes. as explained on that wiki page
[13:08] <mrsam_> i have amd radeon
[13:08] <studentttu> k1l_:  yea im just making sure because i have not done this before and english is not my native language
[13:09] <bekks> mrsam_: Which one of the gazillion of "amd radeon"?
[13:09] <mrsam_> yeats : i see it but i cant understand speacial thing
[13:09] <asbak> !pm | cfhowlett i am not able to filter out how should i proceed
umm i cant remmebr details
[13:09] <cfhowlett> asbak, suggest you read the wiki, choose a project and contact the project lead about contributing
[13:09] <mrsam_> I wanna one command to understand it
[13:10] <bekks> mrsam_: Pastebin "sudo lspci -k" please, and provide the URL of your pastebin.
[13:10] <asbak> cfhowlett, can you please give me a start
[13:10] <xpruined> bekks: why you threaten me
ok
[13:11] <studentttu> [15:09] <xpruined> you are example of genetic damage passed on from your grandparents and parents doing excessive legal and illegal drugs. Your brain is permanently genetically liberally ruined.
[13:11] <studentttu> 5/7
[13:11] <asbak> !pm | cfhowlett  can you please give me a start
[13:12] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:12] <cfhowlett> asbak, already done.  choose what you want to help with.  look in the program website for contact information.  contact the project and offer help.
[13:12] <aldebaran> BluesKaj: Hi
http://paste.ubuntu.com/14115278/
[13:13] <bekks> mrsam_: Look at the last two lines.
[13:13] <flux242> hm, devs are marking all bugs related to the python2 to python3 upgrade as low. Blueman for instance is fixed in debian but marked as low priority
[13:14] <flux242> in ubuntu
[13:14] <asbak> hey
[13:14] <asbak> can u help me
[13:14] <asbak> blueskaj
[13:14] <asbak> ?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi aldebaran, asbak
so?
[13:16] <asbak> hi
[13:16] <asbak> blueskaj
[13:16] <mrsam_> <bekks? is it installed?
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> mrsam_  use tab to complete nicks ... type be and then hit tab
[13:16] <k1l_> asbak: what is your ubuntu issue?
[13:16] <bekks> mrsam_: So what does the last line say?
[13:16] <asbak> in ubuntu's link.....which one should i start
[13:17] <mrsam_> <bekks? say use radeon
[13:17] <asbak> and how
[13:17] <k1l_> asbak: i dont understand what you mean exactly
[13:17] <studentttu> k1l_: Upgrade complete   The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade  process.
[13:18] <asbak> i want to start working on a project
[13:18] <studentttu> how should I proceed?
[13:18] <k1l_> !in | asbak maybe they can help you in your native language
[13:18] <asbak> i am totally new to all this
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> asbak  what brings you here
[13:18] <bekks> mrsam_: No. What exactly does it say?
[13:18] <k1l_> studentttu: depends on the errors
[13:19] <mrsam_> Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X] (rev ff)
[13:19] <mrsam_> 	Kernel driver in use: radeon
[13:19] <studentttu> k1l_:  it doesnt say anything about the errors
[13:19] <asbak> this is the defaulf channel,,,,,so i thought i might get help regarding my issue
[13:19] <studentttu> oh hold on
[13:19] <k1l_> mrsam_: radeon is the open source driver. that is in use on your system.
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> asbak  and what is your issue?
[13:20] <studentttu> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/ywNFA2RD
[13:20] <asbak> MonkeyDust just tell me what should be my next step if i ant to work on a project
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> asbak  what kind of project? fly to the moon?
 so i wanna install a program looklike photoshop..which program is good?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> mrsam_, gimp
[13:21] <k1l_> mrsam_: use gimp
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> asbak  that was rude... i mean, what are you trying to do?
[13:21] <mrsam_> TNX
[13:21] <asbak> a basic project in which a student having knowldge of c can proceed with
[13:22] <boodllebat> i have a issue with GNU make can i ask here ?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, ask
[13:22] <flux242> on my system I only have blueman and gvs-backends to depend on python2. Too bad if they won't make them python3 compatible for 16.04
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> asbak  ok, C programming... join a C channel
[13:22] <boodllebat> i have two make statements 1st works but 2nd not , can i know why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14115295/
[13:22] <asbak> ok but dont be angry
[13:22] <asbak> many of us are new here
[13:23] <mrsam_> k1l and other problem is (i cant connect to linux with android)
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> asbak  type    /j ##c++
[13:23] <mrsam_> k1l and other problem is (i cant connect to linux with android with ssh protocol)
[13:24] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: i did it :)
[13:24] <asbak> thanks MonkeyDust
[13:28] <Abdallah> i have problem with mail server on ubuntu
[13:28] <mrsam_> i cant connect to linux with android with ssh protocol
[13:29] <Abdallah> i have problem with mail server on ubuntu
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !patience | Abdallah
[13:29] <goudkov> hi, if i need to restart unity/compiz without killing the session, what's the difference among:  "setsid unity". "setsid unity --replace", "setsid compiz --replace" ? i can't find a concrete explanation. just examples of commands.