[11:48] <Eleaf> right
[11:48] <kouwe> ok Madpilot thnx
[11:48] <crimsun> McSo: sudo modprobe atmel
[11:48] <McSo> crimsun: if you don't mind, could you take me through the installation of my card?
[11:48] <McSo> crimsun: i typed that and i just got nothing..
[11:48] <crimsun> McSo: good
[11:49] <crimsun> McSo: pastebin the output from ifconfig
[11:49] <allison_1984> Madpilot: what's the best driver for your sound card ?
[11:49] <McSo> ok
[11:50] <McSo> sorry it might take some time, i'm going to have to type it out... i'm actually on my laptop and my desktop at the moment..
[11:50] <Eleaf> lol
[11:50] <McSo> :|
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> UncleD-: success?
[11:50] <UncleD-> crimsun: smp worked
[11:51] <UncleD-> yea!
[11:51] <UncleD-> both processors show up in /proc/cpuinf
[11:51] <UncleD-> both processors show up in /proc/cpuinfo
[11:51] <Madpilot> allison_1984: no idea - my onboard sound worked right away
[11:51] <crimsun> allison_1984: are you have sound card issues?
[11:51] <crimsun> s/have/having/
[11:51] <UncleD-> johndarkhorse: The next step is bind. this machine needs to run as a nameserver. can you recommend which bind package to use.. synaptic shows bind8.** but bind9 is listed when i do apt-cache search bind
[11:52] <crimsun> just install bind9
[11:52] <crimsun> (that's the package name)
[11:52] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496160
[11:52] <UncleD-> crimsun: using apt-get or synaptic
[11:52] <Morrowyn> http://www.morrowyn.org/3d/tree-ubuntu-human.jpg  what do you think?
[11:53] <crimsun> UncleD-: either
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: i cant find bind9 in synaptic..
[11:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Morrowyn: eh
[11:53] <crimsun> UncleD-: it's definitely in breezy/main: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/bind9
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: never mind
[11:53] <allison_1984> crimsun: not really, but the sound seems somewhat saturated....
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: i found it now :)
[11:54] <Eleaf> I LOVE UBUNTU (not random)
[11:54] <Morrowyn> CanYouHelpMePlz, eh ? hmmm....?
[11:54] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, still stuck? or do you want to change your url to helpedalready :)
[11:54] <Eleaf> lol
[11:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: ?
[11:54] <crimsun> allison_1984: make sure you keep PCM below 80%
[11:54] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, you were stuck last time I was talking to you
[11:54] <crimsun> allison_1984: certain chipsets are known for massive distortion and oversaturation
[11:54] <allison_1984> crimsun: alright
[11:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: everything is fine now
[11:55] <crimsun> McSo: dmesg|tail
[11:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: printer still doesnt work but eh whatever
[11:55] <allison_1984> I have an intel sound card
[11:55] <UncleD-> crimsun: ok great. thank you once again.
[11:55] <McSo> crimsun: that gave me a bunch of unkown key released (translated set 2 code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). stuff
[11:55] <UncleD-> crimsun: here's my nxt thing. I want to install lighttpd w/ mysql&postgrsql&php&openssl support - does thathapen automatically?
[11:56] <crimsun> McSo: ok, then I'll need all the unfiltered dmesg output
[11:56] <McSo> ok
[11:56] <crimsun> UncleD-: you'll have to check the forum for that; that's not my cup of tea.
[11:57] <crimsun> granted it's pretty straight-forward to install any/all of those
[11:57] <UncleD-> crimsun: oops, there's a problem. How do I make it so my system does "plog on" when it boots up. I use pppoe so i don't want to have to manually log on using the configured settings.
[11:58] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496165
[11:58] <crimsun> UncleD-: where is pppoe started?
[11:58] <UncleD-> hm
[11:58] <crimsun> McSo: _all_ of dmesg, not just the dmesg|tail
[11:58] <csj> hello, I got ubuntu live-base iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/livecd-base/, and I customize it, I installed xorg, gnome,gdm,etc. and then burn it to test, but failed cause I dont have /dev/input/mice, which package should I install to auto produce the device file?
[11:58] <McSo> oh
[11:58] <UncleD->  i have usr/sbin/pppoeconf let me check
[11:59] <Eleaf> uhh
[11:59] <zAo^> Seveas,  can I use your repos on Dapper?
[12:00] <McSo> crimsun: its basically all the same thing EXCEPT theres one that says usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 5
[12:01] <Stork> hi, i don't really know how this works, is it possible to make c/c++ code that's designed for windows work on ubuntu?
[12:02] <ompaul> Stork, if it is real c++ not something with lots of graphics - so hello world should port but windows effects you would have to run the binary on wine and hope for the best
[12:02] <UncleD-> crimsun: on synaptic, i notice there is mysql-server (4.0.24) and mysql-server-4.1 (4.1.12) - any reason not to install 4.1.12?
[12:02] <Stork> oh darn
[12:02] <ninnghizidha> is there a way to format an USB-Stick?
[12:02] <Stork> ompaul, i don't know any c/c++, so it would probably be difficult to make the source run from the command line
[12:03] <crimsun> McSo: what's the output from the following command? modinfo at76c503 >&/dev/null; echo $?
[12:03] <ompaul> Stork, you would take it and compile it
[12:03] <crimsun> UncleD-: not really
[12:03] <Stork> ompaul, and remove the gui?
[12:03] <McSo> crimsun: "$"
[12:03] <ompaul> the gui code for windows - the hooks would not be there for you
[12:03] <crimsun> McSo: no, that entire command is one line
[12:04] <|37th|Trigger> Hello again :)
[12:04] <UncleD-> crimsun: it appears "pon dsl-provider" activate's my DSL connection.
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: it will either give you a 0 or a 1
[12:04] <McSo> crimsun: including the "?" ?
[12:04] <McSo> oh
[12:04] <McSo> it gave me a 0
[12:04] <UncleD-> crimsun: how can i make sure that dsl connection activates on reboot?
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: yes, verbatim
[12:04] <Stork> ompaul, what do you mean by the hooks?
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: ok, good. sudo modprobe -r atmel && sudo modprobe at76c503 && ifconfig
[12:04] <|37th|Trigger> Can anyone help me with installing a game?
[12:05] <ompaul> Stork, the framework that provides the "windows gui" that the code would latch onto
[12:05] <UncleD-> crimsun: /usr/bin/pon /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[12:05] <UncleD-> crimsun: that commandturns activates my internet connection.
[12:05] <crimsun> UncleD-: did you install a ppoe package?
[12:05] <McSo> crimsun: that basically gave me the same as http://pastebin.com/496160
[12:05] <McSo> except the RX and TX bytes down the bottom were larger
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> umm
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> can someone help me please?
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> !help
[12:06] <crimsun> McSo: I need the ifconfig output, though
[12:06] <ompaul> !anyone
[12:06] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:06] <Hendikins> and how much disk space should a testing installation of Breezy under VMware chew?
[12:06] <|37th|Trigger> Does anyone know why when i open the installer for unreal tournie 2004 i do not have permissions?
[12:06] <crimsun> UncleD-: sorry, a pppoe package
[12:07] <crimsun> Hendikins: slightly more than 1 GB
[12:07] <UncleD-> crimsun: all i had to do was run "pppoeconf" to configure it. no package required.
[12:07] <|37th|Trigger> please can someone help me with this? im tearing my hair out :/
[12:07] <Hendikins> crimsun: Sounds good. Just borrowing somebody else's cable and getting the DVD ISO off a local mirror. 1.14MB/sec is *so* much less painful than 3.0KB/sec!
[12:08] <JoeBlow> hey, whats up?
[12:08] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: How are you opening it?
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> Hey
[12:08] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496175
[12:08] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Please keep it in this channel. I will *not* read your query.
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> oh
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> ok
[12:08] <crimsun> UncleD-: then it should be configured already, and you don't need to do anything additional.
[12:09] <phreak97> whats a good alternative to alcohol 120% under ubuntu?
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> welllll.. I type ./installer.sh.. and i get a message telling me i dont have permissions
[12:09] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Do "chmod u+x installer.sh" first
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> ok.
[12:09] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: You need to have permission to execute the file and that should fix it.
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> cannot acces it :/
[12:09] <UncleD-> crimsun: its configured, but it doesn't run on bootup(ie. after reboot)
[12:10] <crimsun> McSo: please pastebin the output from ``lsusb -v''
[12:10] <GenneX> hey people
[12:10] <crimsun> UncleD-: what iface is brought up, ppp0?
[12:10] <UncleD-> yrd
[12:10] <UncleD-> yes
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> chmod: changing permissions of `linux-installer.sh': Read-only file system
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> root@server:/cdrom# ./linux-installer.sh
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> root@server:/cdrom#
[12:10] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Weird... do "ls -l installer.sh" and post the resulting line
[12:10] <crimsun> UncleD-: you can use a preup directive in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> i just got that.
[12:10] <Tomcat_> eh
[12:10] <GenneX> how would I go about installing and running a windows application on ubuntu?
[12:11] <crimsun> UncleD-: man 5 interfaces
[12:11] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Okay I didn't know you're running this from CD... :P
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 29627635 2004-03-04 09:42 linux-installer.sh
[12:11] <Hendikins> GenneX: You would use Wine for that.
[12:11] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: In that case, do "sh installer.sh"
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> hehe yes i am :$
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> sorry
[12:11] <irvin> |37th|Trigger, sudo installer.sh
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> lmaooo
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> so easy
[12:11] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496179
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> Thanks tomcat
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> it was so easy now :(
[12:12] <Tomcat_> No problem. :]
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> *feels like an idiot*
[12:12] <crimsun> McSo: no wonder, it looks like firmware hasn't been uploaded to your usb device
[12:12] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Nah, it's alright, you just need to learn that stuff step by step.
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> im new to linux
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> first day xD
[12:13] <|37th|Trigger> well i had mepis before.. that broke my pc ;(
[12:13] <McSo> crimsun: huh? i don't get it... the card has worked fine on my windows partition.. i need to update the firmware or somthing?
[12:14] <crimsun> McSo: /you/ don't need to update it, but the device requires firmware to be uploaded to it before it'll function. That occurred behind the scenes in Windows.
[12:14] <McSo> crimsun: oh i see.. so how do i upload firmware on the device and do i already have it or do i have to search for it?
[12:15] <crimsun> McSo: it'd vastly help if you told me explicitly what hardware it is
[12:15] <McSo> crimsun: like how explicit.. what kind of details?
[12:15] <crimsun> McSo: e.g., from the bottom of the device
[12:15] <|37th|Trigger> Tomcat is lord
[12:15] <McSo> oh ok
[12:15] <|37th|Trigger> tomcat is leet
[12:15] <crimsun> I need the make & model
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> tomcat for presidant!
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> >:P
[12:16] <GenneX> Hendikins: ok i got wine installed, how do i go about now to get the windows application installed and working ?
[12:16] <crimsun> wine someapp.exe
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> That's not a bad idea
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> install wine :)
[12:16] <UncleD-> crimsun: i manually changed /etc/network/interfaces - now reboot to test it?
[12:16] <Hendikins> GenneX: Have you taken a look at the documentation in the Wiki? If not, I suggest looking for Wine related articles. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:17] <McSo> crimsun: FCC ID 110-0232USB611, NEW-WUSB, R-LARN-03-0001, P/N: 18-AD-U611-EU, S/N: ALW1304004063
[12:17] <crimsun> UncleD-: yes
[12:17] <McSo> woops NE-USB*
[12:17] <McSo> crimsun" need anything else?
[12:17] <crimsun> McSo: sec
[12:17] <|37th|Trigger> why do you allways put crimsun: or w/e?
[12:17] <McSo> so that he knows i'm talking to him
[12:18] <Hendikins> |37th|Trigger: Why? To indicate that we're talking to somebody in particular. It is helpful when the channel is busy.
[12:18] <|37th|Trigger> Hendikins: Ahh ok :P
[12:18] <Hendikins> (or in some cases, force of habit)
[12:18] <|37th|Trigger> xD
[12:19] <|37th|Trigger> what iso you downloading?
[12:19] <Hendikins> ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[12:20] <Hendikins> 3,048,179,712 bytes. Not quick, even on cable.
[12:20] <SweetestSavage> What's the difference between the DVD ISO and the CD ISO?
[12:20] <Hendikins> I'm just assuming it has more stuff.
[12:20] <encode> one DVD, several CDs
[12:21] <McSo> several cds..? i installed ubuntu with only 1 cd :\
[12:21] <SweetestSavage> encode, yeah, but I only needed to download one CD.
[12:21] <crimsun> McSo: hmm...it's possible that the driver is too old
[12:21] <Hendikins> I'm guessing it simply has more packages than the CD, which is less to grab from the net
[12:22] <Hendikins> which considering my normal connection is dial-up, is very useful to me
[12:22] <McSo> crimsun: i see.. so does that mean its basically useless in ubuntu..?
[12:23] <crimsun> McSo: not at all
[12:23] <McSo> oh
[12:23] <McSo> so what next then?
[12:23] <crimsun> McSo: did you download atmelwlandriver-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2?
[12:23] <McSo> yes
[12:24] <JarG0n> Does anyone know if Ubuntu supports the AMD Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?
[12:24] <Hendikins> It does
[12:24] <Hendikins> The Linux kernel supports both SMP and x86_64
[12:24] <Hendikins> and I'd be quite surprised if Ubuntu shipped without an SMP kernel
[12:25] <mjr> yep, should work just fine
[12:25] <JarG0n> Great! Thanks!  I'm getting an installation error after the kernal loads, indicating "Cannot access tty;" something like that.
[12:25] <mjr> you might need to manually install the SMP kernel to take advantage of the second core, not sure
[12:25] <mjr> but that's a matter of installing a package
[12:26] <JarG0n> "kernel"
[12:26] <JarG0n> yes
[12:26] <JarG0n> And I'm a newb as well so :/
[12:26] <Hendikins> and I'd expect the 32bit version to ship with an SMP kernel too
[12:26] <jenda> :)
[12:26] <Hoxzer> can I make iso image with nero?
[12:27] <Hoxzer> from the files in HDD?
[12:27] <crimsun> McSo: ok, cd to the unpacked source
[12:27] <jenda> Hoxzer: dunno about nero but in Gnomebaker, it's "create image only"
[12:27] <GenneX> Hendikins: How would I know what path to use when adding the Menu?
[12:27] <JarG0n> Are there specialized installation instructions for the Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?
[12:27] <s_spiff|AWAY> installing KDE guys... wish me ebst of luck!
[12:27] <Hendikins> GenneX: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so that I can't help you with
[12:28] <McSo> crimsun: done
[12:28] <Acidic32> is it possible to install KDE instead of gnome, using Ubuntu not kubuntu?
[12:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Acidic32: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <crimsun> McSo: ``make clean''
[12:29] <crimsun> McSo: then ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug''
[12:29] <McSo> crimsun: it says no rule to make target 'clean'
[12:29] <crimsun> McSo: erm, you aren't in the unpacked source
[12:29] <McSo> oh woops unpacked
[12:29] <McSo> sorry
[12:29] <McSo> ok done that
[12:30] <crimsun> McSo: both make steps?
[12:30] <McSo> but the gcc one it says " cannot create directory, no such file or directory"
[12:30] <crimsun> McSo: make sure you've unpacked it in a writable directory. I used /tmp
[12:30] <crimsun> I've test-compiled <IP_ADDRESS> successfully, but I [obviously]  can't test it.
[12:31] <Acidic32> im on about at install time
[12:31] <cafuego> JarG0n: Just use the amd64 or i386 installer, pick an SMP kernel when done.
[12:32] <McSo> crimsun: sorry... how do i do that? (make sure the directory is writable)
[12:33] <crimsun> McSo: unpack the source in /tmp
[12:34] <JarG0n> cafuego>  Thanks!  Here is my exact error: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111578&highlight=access+tty%3B
[12:34] <JarG0n> I'll make note of that.
[12:36] <McSo> crimsun: i still get hte same error sorry
[12:36] <McSo> "mkdir: cannot create directory, ... no such file or directory. make *** [isbvmetr]  error 1
[12:37] <McSo> i have to type in sudo maybe?
[12:38] <crimsun> McSo: err, there shouldn't be any need.
[12:38] <cafuego> JarG0n: missing a device driver for your sata controller most likely.
[12:39] <crimsun> McSo: do you have a /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[12:39] <JarG0n> hrm..
[12:39] <cafuego> JarG0n: Did you boot the rescue cd and see if you can mount your disk?
[12:40] <nash> any one knows where i can get support for bttv?
[12:40] <JarG0n> nope, not yet.
[12:40] <JarG0n> which line indicates a hardware / driver problem?
[12:40] <JarG0n> ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a Shell!
[12:40] <JarG0n> ?
[12:40] <cafuego> yes
[12:41] <cafuego> if the disk was found, /dev/sda1 should exist too.
[12:41] <JarG0n> I need to find references to these new terms.  I'm trying to dump Microsoft Windows.
[12:41] <McSo> crimsun: yeah i'm pretty sure.. i have linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[12:41] <JarG0n> dev means development, and sda means Shaolin-do
[12:41] <JarG0n> Association
[12:41] <JarG0n> lol
[12:41] <crimsun> McSo: ok, add your user to the src group
[12:42] <JarG0n> cafuego> thanks for your help though
[12:42] <McSo> crimsun: how do i do that?
[12:42] <cafuego> dev = Device, sda = Scsi Disk 1 (sata looks like scso to the kernel), sda1 is partition 1 on /dev/sda
[12:42] <crimsun> McSo: sudo adduser $USER src
[12:42] <JarG0n> !
[12:42] <ubotu> JarG0n: Are you on ritalin?
[12:43] <McSo> crimsun: done
[12:43] <JarG0n> No, just a newb
[12:43] <cafuego> !bot
[12:43] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:43] <crimsun> McSo: now you need to log out and back in to continue (or just log in on a separate virtual console)
[12:43] <knubbe> anyone who knows why i cant run wolfenstein enemy territory in full screen? when i set the resolution to 800x600 the game itself gets really small in a box to my lower left.
[12:43] <brrrt> hello all
[12:43] <JarG0n> A bot just asked me if I am on Ritalin?
[12:43] <crimsun> knubbe: you probably don't have 800x600 defined as a valid resolution
[12:43] <knubbe> like if my graphics card didnt support scaling
[12:43] <McSo> crimsun: ok done
[12:44] <Katie^> is there a file on ubuntu like usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/param.h ???
[12:44] <THE_DIRK> hellow
[12:44] <crimsun> knubbe: grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf|uniq
[12:44] <UncleDz> crimsun: does ubuntu do backporting, where they fix bugs in new versions of say, php5.1.1 in the ver 5.0.5 that comes w/ ubuntu?
[12:44] <crimsun> Katie^: search using http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <THE_DIRK> how do you connect with vnc??? i have no audio :S
[12:45] <crimsun> UncleDz: very, very rarely are non-security fixes backported
[12:45] <UncleDz> crimsun, so, i should edit my sources.list
[12:45] <knubbe> crimsun: Modes           "1680x1050"
[12:45] <UncleDz> to get the latest version?
[12:46] <crimsun> McSo: ok, now you should be able to run both of those make commands
[12:46] <THE_DIRK> how do you get audio with vnc viewer?
[12:46] <HilBilly> good morning
[12:46] <McSo> ah ok
[12:46] <crimsun> knubbe: right. See how "800x600" isn't included?
[12:46] <knubbe> crimsun: yes, you're right. thank you.
[12:46] <knubbe> crimsun: is it hard adding more resolutions?
[12:46] <JarG0n> cafuego> interestingly enough, I'm not using a sata hard disk.  I'm using IDE.  Why would I get an error about sata?
[12:46] <McSo> crimsun: i get the same error
[12:47] <HilBilly> I installed the codecs from mplayer.  but when I try to play a .mp4 from totem, it won't play.  How do I link the codecs to make them available to totem?
[12:47] <crimsun> knubbe: not at all. Just ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' and choose (add) 800x600 as an additional mode
[12:47] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[12:47] <THE_DIRK> can some1 tell me how I get audio with vnc viewer??
[12:47] <hydroksyde> xubuntu doesn't run well with 64MB of RAM
[12:47] <crimsun> knubbe: afterware, you'll need to restart gdm: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[12:47] <brrrt> sometimes when i logon to gnome my machine beeps in a high frequency (when playing the startsound, and later beeps at any audio output) and sometimes it completly shuts off a few seconds  after login
[12:47] <hydroksyde> compared to windows 95
[12:48] <brrrt> today i had to restart it 5 times
[12:48] <THE_DIRK> =S
[12:48] <crimsun> hydroksyde: there are even lighter window managers and environments, like ion, pwm, openbox, etc.
[12:48] <brrrt> but when it runs (with working sound) and stays
[12:48] <UncleDz> crimsun: how about changing my sources.list to see latest version of php?
[12:48] <brrrt> it ok
[12:48] <crimsun> UncleDz: you don't necessarily get the latest
[12:48] <McSo> crimsun: could it be that maybe i havn't installed gcc-3.4 correctly or somthing ?
[12:48] <hydroksyde> crimsun, maybe i'll make a "stubuntu"
[12:48] <crimsun> hydroksyde: go for it
[12:49] <Sh4d> hi
[12:49] <THE_DIRK> can some1 help me with vnc?
[12:49] <crimsun> McSo: does ``gcc-3.4 -v'' give you anything?
[12:49] <brrrt> any ideas? i have sblive and deaktivated onboardsound in bios
[12:49] <UncleDz> crimsun: i know php5.0.5 is a version on ubuntu right now
[12:49] <UncleDz> crimsun: 5.1.1 seems more recent
[12:49] <McSo> crimsun: yeah it does.
[12:49] <crimsun> UncleDz: unless there's a compelling reason to migrate to 5.1.1, I wouldn't.
[12:49] <Sh4d> :/
[12:50] <crimsun> UncleDz: "it's newer" is /not/ a compelling enough reason
[12:50] <crimsun> McSo: you /don't/ have a /usr/src/linux, correct?
[12:50] <McSo> crimsun: actually i do..
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: that's bad.
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: what does it point to?
[12:51] <McSo> oh.
[12:51] <McSo> usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: yeah, get rid of the /usr/src/linux symlink
[12:52] <McSo> how do i do that?
[12:52] <crimsun> sudo rm -f /usr/src/linux
[12:52] <McSo> ok done
[12:52] <crimsun> now try the two make commands again
[12:52] <THE_DIRK> can some1 help me with vnc viewer?? i have no audio =S
[12:53] <kouwe> converting a 120GB drive from NTFS to ext3 could that take forever?
[12:53] <McSo> crimsun: nope :\
[12:53] <crimsun> kouwe: depends whether you want to destructively convert it =)
[12:53] <crimsun> if you do, it takes a minute at most
[12:53] <knubbe> crimsun: i screwed up, can you give me the command again (ill trype it down this time) :)
[12:54] <knubbe> -r
[12:54] <crimsun> knubbe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <knubbe> crimsun: thank you. sorry for being a pain..
[12:54] <crimsun> knubbe: after you finish that, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[12:54] <crimsun> McSo: erm...what commands are you using?
[12:54] <jenda> How would I make ls anly list directories?
[12:55] <jenda> *only
[12:55] <McSo> make clean and CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug
[12:55] <knubbe> crimson: i use kde, not gdm. i think it restarted kde automatically (at least it did now when i pressed "esc" throught the whole setup process)
[12:56] <knubbe> brb
[12:56] <bimberi> jenda: ls -l | grep ^d
[12:56] <jenda> bimberi: thx
[12:57] <bimberi> jenda: np :)
[12:57] <Hendikins> Does Breezy have any major problems with being vmwared?
[12:57] <bunga> hi what command to see my version
[12:57] <brrrt> how can it be that my computer shuts off immediatly 5 seconds after login to gnome?
[12:57] <bimberi> bunga: of ubuntu?  -  "lsb_release -a"
[12:57] <crimsun> bunga: lsb_release -r
[12:58] <crimsun> McSo: does ``make clean'' work?
[12:58] <kouwe> crimsun: well im being converting it now with gparted but its taking a 60 minutes...
[12:58] <McSo> crimsun: well when i type it i get "*.o and *.ko files Removed"
[12:58] <kouwe> well its done as i speak :$
[12:58] <crimsun> McSo: ok good.
[12:59] <ompaul> Hendikins, no it may work but hoary works with it according to a friend of mine on the phone - his job supporting vmware
[01:00] <crimsun> McSo: make sure you're executing these commands as a normal user and not with sudo
[01:00] <McSo> crimsun: yeah its not with sudo
[01:00] <Enfors> Trying to compile a program, but I seem to be missing glibc, or something. I did "apt-get install gcc", but I still don't have, for example, stdio.h What package should I install to get it?
[01:00] <crimsun> Enfors: build-essential (it's in libc6-dev)
[01:00] <hydroksyde> yeah
[01:00] <Enfors> Thanks!
[01:00] <hydroksyde> that
[01:00] <jenda> bimberi: not good... I need it to be able to export a list of directories to a text file, and that has way too much info...
[01:01] <kouwe> is there a command to see some drive information
[01:01] <kouwe> like av. space etc
[01:01] <Hendikins> ompaul: Alrighty. I just lack enough hardware to run it outside of a virtual machine - and I'm not trashing my SuSE to run it on my dualie.
[01:01] <Enfors> I did get libc6 already, didn't realise there was a libc6-dev too. Downloading it now, thanks for the info (gotta love IRC...)
[01:01] <crimsun> McSo: paste the output from ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug'' onto pastebin
[01:01] <bimberi> kouwe: df -h   ?
[01:01] <McSo> ok
[01:02] <crimsun> Enfors: you had libc6 already. Your system wouldn't function without it.
[01:02] <bimberi> jenda: hm, ok
[01:02] <ludi> when is the next version of ubuntu due to be released?
[01:03] <ompaul> Hendikins, then in theory you should have no issues with it as a guest (my words)
[01:03] <igaaa> hi, does everyone know how to make an optical audio output work with alsa ?
[01:03] <Goek> How do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?
[01:03] <crimsun> in mid-April
[01:03] <Enfors> cirmsun: Uhmm, yeah, you're right ofcourse. Now that I think of it, apt-get probably said I already had it.
[01:03] <crimsun> igaaa: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:03] <crimsun> (pastebin)
[01:03] <Goek> How do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?
[01:03] <Hendikins> ompaul: Theory must be a nice place, everything works there :)
[01:03] <ludi> are there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?
[01:03] <crimsun> Goek: if ``sudo apt-get upgrade'' doesn't pull anything new
[01:03] <ludi> for example in a school library computer
[01:03] <jenda> bimberi: I would imagine the exact same as "ls -R directory > file.txt" but only listing the dirs...
[01:04] <Enfors> crimsun: Actually, I've been using Linux since 1995 (version 1.2.1 back then), but I haven't used it much recently. I'm a bit out of touch as I'm sure you can tell =)
[01:04] <ompaul> Hendikins, that has to go into the quotes db
[01:04] <Madpilot> !quotes
[01:04] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes
[01:04] <Hendikins> ompaul: That's an old quote. I've used it for years, and certainly wasn't the first to do so.
[01:04] <doinbox> im still having a problem with my floppy and dvd-rw drives on ubuntu it keeps saying can not mount. so they are unusable what di i do to fix this plz plz plz help
[01:04] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496238
[01:04] <kouwe> now witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!
[01:04] <Goek> then it worked
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: cd && rm -rf atmelwlandriver
[01:05] <bimberi> jenda: ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}'          (for current directory tho)
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: then unpack it afresh
[01:05] <UncleDz> crimsun: Why must apache2-common be installed if i want to install php5?
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: then try the make commands again
[01:05] <kouwe> now witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!
[01:06] <crimsun> UncleDz: because it's dependency
[01:06] <doinbox> plz help
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: use pmount to mount floppy diskettes
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: no idea for dvdrws
[01:07] <grundo> can someone point me a good Qt/KDE web tutorial site?
[01:07] <McSo> crimsun: thank you very much :D it worked!
[01:07] <doinbox> crimsun is pmount already on ubuntu
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: yes
[01:07] <doinbox> what is it
[01:07] <jenda> bimberi: almost there ( ls -lR directory | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}' > file.txt ) except that it doesn't shouw the path of the subdirs
[01:08] <crimsun> doinbox: it's a mount utility for removable volumes for nonprivileged users
[01:08] <bimberi> jenda: i knew you were going to say that :P
[01:08] <grundo> !Qt/KDE tutorial
[01:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, grundo
[01:08] <doinbox> crimsun can pmount do dvd drives aswell
[01:08] <hydroksyde> old people are fat!
[01:08] <crimsun> doinbox: I don't know offhand
[01:08] <doinbox> ok thankyou for your help
[01:08] <jenda> bimberi: you're a prophet... :)
[01:08] <McSo> crimsun: it finished... whats next?
[01:09] <mwe> grundo: for qt trolltech's site is great
[01:09] <grundo> ok
[01:09] <HilBilly> this old fart gives hydroksyde a sample
[01:09] <ompaul> hydroksyde, be nice - look at the COC
[01:09] <UncleDz> crimsun: how do you feel about adduser-ng - useful?
[01:09] <crimsun> McSo: ``sudo make install && sudo depmod -e''
[01:09] <ompaul> !coc
[01:09] <ubotu> I guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:09] <crimsun> UncleDz: I'm not familiar w/ it
[01:09] <ludi> are there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?  for example in a school library computer
[01:09] <hydroksyde> am I not allowed to make sweeping generalizations about groups of people?
[01:09] <crimsun> igaaa: please just ask here; I can't accept dcc chats.
[01:10] <McSo> it says " pcmcia, pci, bin, xllr6 bin } already exists. run #depmod -aeq after installation
[01:10] <igaaa> crimsun: here's the output from cat /proc/asound/cards: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6803
[01:10] <igaaa> ok, no problem
[01:10] <crimsun> hydroksyde: on-topic discussion, please, otherwise use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <hydroksyde> ludi, try a more restrictive window manager,
[01:10] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[01:11] <hydroksyde> ludi, like blackbox or windowmaker, or e
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, and what's your sound issue?
[01:11] <ludi> I don't want to try a more restrictive window manager
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: optical-out?
[01:11] <ludi> I want gnome
[01:11] <ludi> w/ lockdown controls suitable for a school library type environment
[01:11] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[01:11] <hydroksyde> I don't know then
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: does ``aplay -Dplug:iec958 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' produce audible sound?
[01:12] <bimberi> jenda how about "find -type d" ?
[01:13] <UncleDz> Can anyone recommend a good mailserver to use? hows courier?
[01:13] <Caius> if I install from a hoary ppc cd can I update to breezy without downloading a breezy ppc install cd?
[01:13] <|37th|Trigger> hello :)
[01:13] <crimsun> UncleDz: postfix
[01:13] <|37th|Trigger> can anyone tell me why i cant drag files too a differant folder? :/
[01:13] <crimsun> Caius: yes
[01:13] <Caius> |37th|Trigger: they hate you
[01:14] <Caius> crimsun: ta
[01:14] <|37th|Trigger> Yea i figured that was around right :P
[01:14] <UncleDz> crimsun: hows postfix compared to courier?
[01:14] <jenda> bimberi: You got it man. Danke & Merci :)
[01:14] <crimsun> UncleDz: easier to configure and higher-performance
[01:14] <ompaul> |37th|Trigger, your username does not own the files or the location that the files are being dropped to
[01:15] <bimberi> jenda: np (phew) ;)
[01:15] <McSo> crimsun: i assume i type sudo depmod -aeq ??
[01:15] <|37th|Trigger> well i cant login as root :/
[01:15] <crimsun> McSo: -e
[01:15] <McSo> -e?
[01:15] <jenda> lol
[01:15] <crimsun> McSo: as in just -e
[01:15] <McSo> oh so depmod -e
[01:16] <crimsun> McSo: the other options don't exist
[01:16] <McSo> ah ok
[01:16] <McSo> well i've done that
[01:16] <McSo> nothing happened though?
[01:16] <crimsun> that's good
[01:16] <McSo> oh ok haha
[01:16] <crimsun> McSo: so which amtel module are you supposed to load?
[01:16] <Hendikins> At least we get to the second part of installation
[01:17] <McSo> i'm pretty sure its the at76c305
[01:17] <igaaa> crimsun: the jack-output works well, with vlc, Beep, etc. However, I don't know how to make both coaxial and optical outputs work.
[01:17] <McSo> wait sorry
[01:17] <mwe> UncleDz: |37th|Trigger do you have write access to the destination?
[01:17] <McSo> i'm pretty sure its the at76c503
[01:17] <crimsun> igaaa: "jack-output"?
[01:18] <crimsun> McSo: so unload the current one you have loaded, then load the new one
[01:18] <McSo> crimsun: sorry how do i do?
[01:18] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:18] <crimsun> McSo: pastebin lsmod output
[01:19] <crimsun> I need to sleep; I've been awake for 30 hours.
[01:19] <McSo> crimsun: lol, sorry for keeping you up
[01:19] <fapeg> hi
[01:20] <igaaa> crimsun: and I didn't hear any sound neither with the jack nor the coaxial output
[01:20] <igaaa> crimsun: yes, the headphones' output
[01:20] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496255
[01:21] <crimsun> igaaa: did you pastebin amixer output?
[01:21] <crimsun> McSo: sudo modprobe -r at76c503
[01:21] <McSo> crimsun: nothing happened
[01:22] <crimsun> McSo: it shouldn't appear to. That's a good sign.
[01:22] <McSo> i see
[01:22] <crimsun> McSo: if something doesn't work with modprobe, it'll spew errors.
[01:22] <McSo> ah ok
[01:22] <nightwatch> hi there I cant get mp3 playing in my ubunto. I already installed amarok and download libmad
[01:22] <crimsun> nightwatch: what application?
[01:22] <nightwatch> and install libmad too
[01:22] <nightwatch> amarok
[01:23] <crimsun> nightwatch: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:23] <McSo> crimsun: so what next?
[01:23] <crimsun> if you're using the gstreamer engine, that is
[01:23] <crimsun> McSo: now load the module you just unloaded
[01:23] <McSo> crimsun: sorry again.. how do i do that?
[01:23] <crimsun> McSo: same command without the -r
[01:23] <crimsun> -r == remove
[01:23] <McSo> ah ok
[01:24] <McSo> yeah
[01:24] <McSo> nothing happened again, so its a good thing right
[01:24] <nightwatch> crimsun:  that packet is not in the list
[01:24] <crimsun> nightwatch: enable universe.
[01:24] <UncleDz> crimsun: do you recommend dovtecot+postfix?
[01:24] <crimsun> nightwatch: which engine are you using for amarok?
[01:25] <crimsun> UncleDz: I've heard it's a winning combination, but I can't personally vouch for it.
[01:25] <McSo> crimsun: what's next?
[01:25] <nightwatch> crimsun: crimsun GStreamer Engine
[01:25] <igaaa> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6804
[01:25] <mwe> nightwatch: I gave up gstreamer and installed amarok-xine and chose the xine engine in amarok settings. now it works fine
[01:25] <crimsun> nightwatch: then yes, you'll need to enable universe and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:26] <St0n3-C0l> I want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps "
[01:26] <crimsun> McSo: ifconfig
[01:26] <nightwatch> crimsun: I did it.
[01:26] <McSo> crimsun: you want me to postbin it?
[01:26] <mwe> nightwatch: I couldn't get it to work with gstreamer either
[01:27] <crimsun> igaaa: you may need to mute 'IEC958 Capture Monitor'
[01:27] <nightwatch> mwe I will try it
[01:27] <mwe> nightwatch: maybe it will work for you as well
[01:27] <crimsun> McSo: just tell me if it lists more than just lo
[01:27] <McSo> yeah after lo thheres a bunch of info like the address and netmask and tx and rx packets and bytes
[01:28] <apokryphos> McSo: any other sections, though.
[01:28] <McSo> apokryphos: sorry i don't know what you mean?
[01:28] <builder> if [ -d "${MYDIR}" ]  fails if ${MYDIR} has a space in it, even when I escape the space. How can I get around this?
[01:28] <McSo> is lo a section?
[01:28] <crimsun> McSo: it's an interface
[01:29] <McSo> ok
[01:29] <McSo> well yeah.. it basically looks exactly the same as all the other ifconfigs
[01:29] <crimsun> each interface would have TX/RX, etc.
[01:29] <McSo> ah ok
[01:29] <kestas> builder, should work
[01:29] <kestas> works here
[01:29] <crimsun> ok, then you haven't uploaded the firmware, thus it won't work
[01:29] <crimsun> McSo: follow the rest of the instructions regarding uploading the firmware
[01:30] <igaaa> crimsun: done, but I still don't hear any sound
[01:30] <CodenameKT> ls
[01:30] <nightwatch> I cant understand what is going on. I have activated universe repository ( I check it downloanding when I use aptitude) but those packets are not in the list. neither gstreamer0.8-mad or amarok-xine
[01:30] <builder> kestas, just escape the space when I define ${MYDIR} and double quote ${MYDIR} in the test right?
[01:30] <roune> somone using wlan and ubuntu here?
[01:31] <McSo> crimsun: sorry.. where are the instructions?
[01:31] <McSo> on the readme?
[01:31] <crimsun> McSo: in the unpacked source
[01:31] <crimsun> roune: I am
[01:31] <roune> what do i need to get it working? ^^
[01:31] <roune> is there some kind of package?
[01:31] <crimsun> roune: please be more precise than that
[01:31] <zyz> hi, I have trouble with xterm : Color name "black" is not defined
[01:32] <nightwatch> where is hardware compatibility list website?
[01:32] <doinbox> hey crimsun i cant find pmount anywhere can you help
[01:32] <crimsun> igaaa: cat /proc/asound/devices --> pastebin
[01:32] <crimsun> doinbox: open a Terminal and type pmount
[01:32] <redguy|work> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:32] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:32] <McSo> crimsun: thank you very much for all the help
[01:32] <doinbox> sorry once again but how do i open a terminal
[01:32] <roune> im sitting on my laptop, with builtin wlan, and got another computer with a wlan "dongle"? for the moment im using windows, coz i dont know how to get the wlan working on linux..
[01:33] <crimsun> doinbox: GNOME or KDE?
[01:33] <redguy|work> nightwatch: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe. did you update your package lists?
[01:33] <McSo> bye
[01:33] <doinbox> ok ive seen that gnome thanks
[01:33] <crimsun> doinbox: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[01:33] <doinbox> right got it
[01:33] <roune> and now i want to connect to the other computer with the wlan, and get an internet connection
[01:33] <crimsun> roune: no, I mean hardware.
[01:33] <doinbox> thanks alot man
[01:33] <eyedol59> Hello to everyone
[01:34] <hyakuhei> hi eyedol59
[01:34] <roune> oh.. ^^
[01:34] <nightwatch> redguy|work: sure, aptitude update
[01:34] <igaaa> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6805
[01:35] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, use ``aplay -Dplughw:0,4 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[01:35] <eyedol59> i am trying to found a kernel that is suitable for my processor, coul anybody help me please?
[01:36] <crimsun> eyedol59: what processor?
[01:36] <redguy|work> nightwatch: no errors?
[01:36] <igaaa> crimsun: The probleme is that I want to use my external amplifier through the coaxial or optical output
[01:36] <JarG0n> Since when does Gaim support IRC?!
[01:36] <igaaa> crimsun: It gives no sound
[01:37] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, then please follow the troubleshooting steps in alsa.opensrc.org -> digital
[01:37] <eyedol59> i have a AMD 64 +3000 socket 754 processor
[01:37] <redguy|work> JarG0n: it supports IRC for quite a time
[01:37] <JarG0n> I think I missed out on that feature!
[01:37] <redguy|work> eyedol59: do you have the 64 bit version of ubuntu intalled?
[01:38] <roune> well, it says WLAN 802.11g mini-PCI Module, in the other computer i have "gigabyte (somting) usb", the internet is comming from an ADSL modem, sharing internet through ad_Hoc
[01:38] <crimsun> eyedol59: you can probably use linux-amd64-k8
[01:38] <eyedol59> thats right
[01:38] <igaaa> crimsun: ok, thank you, I'm going to do so
[01:39] <roune> so, i am not using a wireless router.
[01:40] <crimsun> roune: pastebin the output from lspci -v
[01:40] <roune> well, im using dual boot,win and linux, becouse i dont know how to get the wlan working in linux, im at the moment using windows ^^
[01:40] <Hendikins> ompaul: Thumbs up with Workstation 5.5
[01:40] <nightwatch> redguy|work: yes, cant find decoder... I think could be alsa .. I tried other distro but they were not compatible with my intel HDA audio system
[01:40] <eyedol59> how can i find out if that kernel you mencioned is suitable for my processor?
[01:41] <crimsun> roune: I can't really help you if you're not running Linux at the moment
[01:41] <crimsun> eyedol59: install it?
[01:41] <vlt> hi @all! i've the problem that the correct keyboard layout is installed under the xserver but i've no idea wehre i have to configure that for the naked console without the xserver. do you have any idea?
[01:41] <roune> but, i cant ask questions, if i dont have an internet connection.....
[01:41] <eyedol59> that is a little risky , don you think? :)
[01:42] <crimsun> eyedol59: of course not. You don't remove the currently installed kernel.
[01:42] <crimsun> eyedol59: so if the new one doesn't work, reboot and choose your current one.
[01:42] <Axioplase> Hi! I ve just upgrade my hoarty to breezy and X won t start because of an empty non executable /etc/X11/X... What am I supposed to do?
[01:42] <nightwatch> what is going on with those repositories..  even flex can be found...
[01:42] <roune> say, ive never used wlan b4 on linux, what is the first thing i should do to get it working?
[01:42] <nightwatch> and I update the packet list
[01:43] <crimsun> Axioplase: ls -l /etc/X11/X
[01:43] <UncleDz> crimsun: How do i install java sdk 1.5?
[01:43] <crimsun> UncleDz: ask the bot about java
[01:43] <crimsun> nightwatch: it seems you don't have the main repository enabled
[01:43] <UncleDz> how?
[01:43] <crimsun> !java
[01:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:43] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s a normal file... (plus I ve deleted it once trying a link)
[01:43] <crimsun> (like that)
[01:44] <eyedol59> mmm, okay i will try that, nevertheless i would like to know what "k8" means, because thats not how the AMD 64 processors are called,
[01:44] <crimsun> Axioplase: ...a normal file? It's supposed to be a symlink.
[01:44] <crimsun> eyedol59: that's their classification.
[01:44] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s not. What should I link it to?
[01:44] <crimsun> Axioplase: um, what is it then?
[01:44] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Bad header line
[01:45] <nightwatch> crimsun: look this ->
[01:45] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[01:45] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Got a single header line over 360 chars
[01:45] <crimsun> nightwatch: so either kill your proxy or use a different mirror
[01:45] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s now a normal file, as after any "touch file"
[01:45] <ompaul> Hendikins, :-)
[01:45] <nightwatch> I did not edit it
[01:45] <nightwatch> is the default
[01:45] <doinbox> crimsun i tried pmount but i dont unde3rstand stuff like that can you tell me what i need to type
[01:46] <crimsun> Axioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/X11/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:46] <crimsun> Axioplase: err, hang on
[01:46] <crimsun> Dapper's path differs
[01:46] <eyedol59> okay, thank you for the assistance. Now i am going to install the kernel you recommended me. Bye bye
[01:46] <grundo> where i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?
[01:46] <katie_> How do I change the port on bittorrent on ubuntu?
[01:47] <yatesy> read the man page
[01:47] <crimsun> Axioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:47] <doinbox> is there a beginners guide to pmount anywhere on the net
[01:48] <crimsun> doinbox: there's a man page
[01:48] <crimsun> doinbox: man pmount
[01:48] <grundo> where i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?
[01:48] <crimsun> grundo: use a Web search engine
[01:48] <apokryphos> grundo: developer.kde.org
[01:48] <grundo> thank you
[01:49] <Axioplase> crimsun: thanks... looks like xorg was reinstalled during the update...
[01:49] <s_spiff|AWAY> hey my dad just typed out a document in OpenOffice 2.0 Writer
[01:49] <doinbox> whats a man page
[01:49] <roune> this might be something to? ^^ http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/
[01:49] <s_spiff|AWAY>  and tried saving it in MS 97/200/XP Office format
[01:49] <grundo> the page developer.kde.org cannot be found
[01:50] <roune> try this:C
[01:50] <roune> http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/
[01:50] <s_spiff|AWAY>  it gave a error tht, the formatting of the documten is not in line with that of MS Office
[01:50] <s_spiff|AWAY>  is it because of the fontrs?
[01:50] <roune> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/
[01:50] <crimsun> nap time.
[01:50] <apokryphos> grundo: it exists....
[01:51] <roune> hey, does anyone use wlan on linux, or got any ide how to get it work?
[01:52] <tabias> can someone help to change my keyboard to azerty instead of qwerty
[01:52] <doinbox> plz help me. what do i type in pmount to mount my floppy drive
[01:53] <Axioplase> hummm...  How to install Xorg when XFree is still installed ?
[01:53] <brenner> s_spiff|AWAY: what's the exact error wording?
[01:53] <C-O-L-T> albacker-: hello
[01:54] <albacker-> C-O-L-T, hi
[01:54] <C-O-L-T> albacker-: I have been waiting you for 2 days
[01:54] <brenner> tabias: what language do you speak?
[01:54] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ive been here, only that we might have been online in different hours
[01:54] <s_spiff|AWAY> umm hold on
[01:55] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:56] <s_spiff|AWAY> This document may contain formatting that cannot be saved in the MS Office 2000/XP file format. Do you want to save the file in this format anyway?
[01:56] <brenner> tabias: try going thru sys > prefs > k/board > layout > add
[01:56] <brenner> s_spiff|AWAY: that
[01:56] <s_spiff|AWAY> yeah?
[01:56] <brenner> is a warning
[01:56] <nightwatch> there are any similar to flex in universe ubuntu packet list?
[01:56] <brenner> sorry, pressed the enter key accidentaly
[01:56] <s_spiff>  ok.. so I go ahead and save na?
[01:57] <s_spiff> np :P
[01:57] <brenner> s_spiff: yes, but like it says, some of the content may be weird when you open it in ms office
[01:57] <nightwatch> I need flex to compile some thing
[01:57] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:57] <s_spiff> so basically its due to the fonts right?
[01:57] <s_spiff>  I'll have to instal;l new fonts.
[01:57] <gaz> is it bad practice to use .deb packages for hoary if im using breezy or should it be fine?
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: the flex package doesn't work for you?
[01:58] <brenner> s_spiff: possibly.  i'm not sure what your font setup is like
[01:58] <s_spiff> huh?
[01:58] <nightwatch> brenner: sure, but is not in packet list
[01:58] <s_spiff> default font, whatever linux installed
[01:58] <UncleDz> crimsun: ty for the help
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: looks like it's in main
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: are your sources alright?
[01:59] <katie_> how do i run bittornado after installing it
[01:59] <tabias> brenner, tried that but it keeps in qwerty don't know why I selected a azerty layout. although I'm just trying it in vmware but that shouldn't be a problem
[01:59] <brenner> s_spiff: hang on.  i'm gonna try save a doc
[01:59] <s_spiff> lol ok.
[01:59] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:59] <brenner> katie_: type it in a terminal
[02:00] <katie_> i did
[02:00] <doinbox> ahhhhh
[02:00] <katie_> katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado
[02:00] <katie_> bash: bittornado: command not found
[02:00] <katie_> katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado-gui
[02:00] <katie_> bash: bittornado-gui: command not found
[02:00] <nightwatch> brenner: I'm not sure anymore.. it should be, due I didnot edit it and has just installed. but when I added pt repository I get that br repositories were down... if you can, please send me an international (english or portuguese) that really works.
[02:00] <s_spiff> brenner, if I install a program, how to create a shortcut icon for it on the desktop? otherwise I'll have to go into the terminal all the time and then type out the command, which I think is sort of paionful
[02:00] <salomo> Hello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?
[02:00] <brenner> s_spiff: i get it the warning too.
[02:00] <s_spiff> hehe
[02:01] <doinbox> please can some one answer me.what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[02:01] <s_spiff> its cuz, all the linux installed fonts are not the MS office default
[02:01] <_null> doinbox, pmount -w /dev/floppy probably
[02:01] <apokryphos> katie_: do not paste in here
[02:01] <doinbox> thankyou null
[02:01] <_null> no problem
[02:02] <brenner> s_spiff: i think it's more of a general warning...compatibility with ms' document format ain't perfect
[02:02] <s_spiff> anyways, I'll be back later, dad wants to finish typing his document..
[02:02] <s_spiff> hmm ok..
[02:02] <katie_> ok
[02:02] <s_spiff>  will check it out on ms later
[02:02] <s_spiff>  cya
[02:02] <s_spiff>  and thanks
[02:02] <brenner> katie_: what package did you install the app by?
[02:02] <katie_> When I type bittornado in the terminal it says that bash: bittornado: command not found.
[02:02] <katie_> There.
[02:02] <katie_> i just did apt-get install bittornado-gui,
[02:02] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: save it in oo.org's format as well (as a backup)
[02:03] <brenner> katie_: ok, does it show up in the app menu?
[02:03] <mwe> katie_: then type bittornado-gui
[02:03] <nightwatch> brenner: can you?
[02:03] <katie_> it's ok
[02:03] <mwe> katie_: or bitto<tab>
[02:03] <katie_> i didn't know there was going to be in the application menu
[02:03] <brenner> ubotu: tell nightwatch about repos
[02:04] <phreak97> ok, azureas will download to my desktop fine, but not to a folder on another partition which has exactly the same permissions
[02:04] <phreak97> i want it fixed
[02:04] <phreak97> how?
[02:04] <katie_> and when i tab it nothing comes up, or when i type in bittornado-gui same as before
[02:04] <katie_> but still it's weird, i mean i thought i could just type ittorndao and it'd work
[02:05] <mwe> katie_: dpkg -L bittornado-gui|grep bin to find the binary
[02:05] <salomo> Hello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?
[02:05] <redguy|work> salomo: hrm, how about protecting both?
[02:05] <katie_> then what?
[02:06] <katie_> lol
[02:06] <brenner> katie_: no, not all apps install to the app menu.  i was just checking
[02:06] <brenner> katie_: did that command return any results?
[02:07] <katie_> erm yes, lol btcompletedirgui.bittornado
[02:07] <katie_> and 2 others
[02:07] <brenner> eh?
[02:07] <JarG0n> I think it would be more appropriate to have bittorrent's "not running" health icon use x's for the eyes to show the torrent is inactive.
[02:08] <katie_> /usr/bin/btcompletedirgui.bittornado
[02:08] <katie_>  and 2 others like that
[02:08] <salomo> redguy|work, I suppose that with firestarter you can set active only one internet interface at once.
[02:08] <JarG0n> Azureus I mean...
[02:09] <brenner> gee, that's a weird filename
[02:09] <mwe> katie_: btdownloadgui
[02:09] <katie_> danka
[02:10] <mwe> katie_: next time you log in to gnome you'll probably have a shortcut too
[02:10] <Spee_Der> Can someone tell me how to stop XINE in Ubuntu v5.10 please. The program will not respond.
[02:10] <yatesy> pkill xine
[02:10] <katie_> ahhh good
[02:10] <Hendikins> kill -9?
[02:10] <Spee_Der> Thank you yatsey.
[02:10] <brenner> or you could just do a 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh
[02:10] <katie_> i dont like having to type loads of crap just to get a program to run lol
[02:10] <katie_> lazy :(
[02:10] <yatesy> Hendikins: thats a last resort
[02:10] <brenner> katie_: it might not add one though.  do you know about smeg?
[02:11] <Hendikins> Maybe I'm just lazy - I use killall -9 first.
[02:11] <katie_> smeg?
[02:11] <katie_> no, i haven't heard of it before
[02:11] <yatesy> Hendikins: you'll run into problems eventually doing that all the time :)
[02:11] <Spee_Der> Sorry, pkill xine did not work.
[02:11] <mwe> katie_: no of course. that's one of the things a window manager should spare you, typing a lot all the time
[02:11] <apokryphos> katie_: /msg ubotu smeg
[02:11] <Hendikins> yatesy: Haven't done so in the 4 years I've been playing with Linux on the desktop, although I'm careful about just what I kill.
[02:12] <brenner> katie_: if you don't get a shortcut, you can add one yourself using smeg.  apps > sys tools > app menu editor
[02:12] <yatesy> Hendikins: just be warned, anything that caches data before writing won't have a chance to write it to disk before its killed using -9
[02:12] <yatesy> Hendikins: database servers for example
[02:12] <Spee_Der> I will study further the kill command, thank you.
[02:13] <Hendikins> yatesy: I don't tend to kill those.
[02:13] <katie_> thank you :)
[02:13] <yatesy> Hendikins: you're probably fine then :)
[02:14] <Hendikins> and I don't always send a signal 9 either (but that's another matter)
[02:14] <katie_> how do i isntall this?
[02:15] <albacker> ~java
[02:15] <katie_> i extracted the deb
[02:15] <albacker> !java
[02:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:15] <doinbox> im gonna kill myself linux drives me mad
[02:15] <albacker> !javadebs
[02:15] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:15] <cleo> whats the difference between hotplug and hal?
[02:15] <brenner> katie_: install what?
[02:15] <Hendikins> I can see I'm going to be busy doing work on the FirefoxPlugins page...
[02:15] <pinucset> one think, how can i extract a .ace?
[02:15] <doinbox> i still cant get my floppy to mount i have tried -w/dev/floppy in pmount but it says bad command
[02:15] <doinbox> plz help
[02:15] <Hendikins> Anyone want to donate some PPC hardware to me to work on Firefox docs with? :P
[02:15] <katie_> alacarte menu thing
[02:16] <cleo> !ace
[02:16] <ubotu> cleo: I don't know
[02:16] <thegladiator> ubuntu is simply great
[02:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thegladiator: agreed
[02:16] <Hendikins> I'm only poking at it, and I'm a bit underwhelmed *shrug*
[02:16] <doinbox> gladiator how do i mount a floppy drive in it then if it is so great
[02:16] <brenner> katie_: try out smeg 1st (previous incarnation of alacarte).  it's aready installed: apps > sys tools > app menu editor
[02:17] <St0n3-C0l> Who is using KDE 3.5 here ? :P
[02:17] <Hendikins> I'm running KDE 3.5, but not on *ubuntu
[02:17] <katie_> oh
[02:17] <katie_> lol
[02:17] <katie_> i must sound like a complete idiot.
[02:17] <doinbox> oh come on somebody must know
[02:17] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I am
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> I updated dapper repos and did kubuntu-install but it asked me to remove all gnome apps and install kde apps
[02:18] <thegladiator> i am on 3.4.3 , badly want to try 3.5
[02:18] <Hendikins> I compiled 3.5
[02:18] <mwe> why
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> Is that good ?
[02:18] <JarG0n> !bot
[02:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:18] <brenner> katie_: not at all :)
[02:18] <mwe> kubuntu project page has kde 3.5 for apt
[02:18] <JarG0n> ubotu: Are you on ritalin?
[02:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !botsnack
[02:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, JarG0n
[02:18] <ubotu> :)
[02:18] <JoeBlow> wow, windows 32 bit really sucks, it cant even read a sata drive properly if it has a linux partition
[02:19] <mwe> thegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.5
[02:19] <doinbox> how do i mount a floppy in pmount please
[02:19] <JoeBlow> so whats up?
[02:19] <brenner> weird.  adblock won't install for me
[02:19] <thegladiator> thank you
[02:19] <doinbox> i have tried -w/dev/floppy but thats not right
[02:19] <St0n3-C0l> atm I am compiling firefox 1.5 :P
[02:19] <knubbe> thegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:19] <mwe> thegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:19] <St0n3-C0l> and dun know why backports not making update of firefox 1.5
[02:19] <doinbox> i have only installed ubuntu last night so everything is where it should be
[02:20] <JoeBlow> kubuntu just looks different graphically right? like all the rest is the same?
[02:20] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: Fun.
[02:20] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, they wont be for a while
[02:20] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: because it would break stuff
[02:20] <gnomefreak> still alot of bugs in FF1.5
[02:20] <Hendikins> At least you guys don't have to support the thing :)
[02:20] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: like 50 apps using gecko
[02:20] <brenner> JoeBlow: yep.  kde instead of gnome.  different package mgrs iirc though
[02:20] <Hendikins> and yes, a major Gecko upgrade can prove to be quite problematic.
[02:21] <brenner> but the 'engine' is the same
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: they never will backport firefox1.5. It will break too much
[02:21] <strips> whats the case og ATI versus Nvidia regarding ease of driver installation?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mwe, they had plans to
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: I see
[02:21] <brenner> strips: general string i've heard is nvidia's are more successful
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mwe, backports are not official anyway :)
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: It would still break
[02:21] <thegladiator> mwe, how can I download the deb ?
[02:22] <strips> brenner: i've only used nvidia myself...
[02:22] <gnomefreak> mwe, i agree but i had heard they were going to backport it but dont know where they stand on that anymore
[02:22] <thegladiator> mwe, how I go about using that link ?
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: add what I pasted to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:22] <Huffalump> I am trying to Enable Interface for my ath0 (wifi card).  It appears to enable (green checkmark) for just a moment, like less than a second.  Then automagically reverts back to disabled (red x).  I am using a Kubuntu-64 live cd (and tried asking the friendly folks on #kubuntu with no answer).
[02:22] <thegladiator> yep
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:22] <St0n3-C0l> hmm
[02:22] <Hendikins> We're supposed to be releasing a Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> this month
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: put that at the end
[02:22] <thegladiator> yep
[02:23] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I've got a problem.. when running MySQL Administrator, and I click on "User Administration", it automatically closes. This is on Breezy 5.10 AMD64 build of Ubuntu
[02:23] <St0n3-C0l> mwe;: Repo for installing 3.5 ?
[02:23] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: yeah
[02:23] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:23] <thegladiator> where is the sources.list directory
[02:23] <St0n3-C0l> Guess what...after dapper update Synaptic reacting very strange
[02:24] <gnomefreak> there is the repo for kde 3.5 and should tell you how to do it
[02:24] <knubbe> thegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> When I click on Repositories...it starts updating them :P
[02:24] <knubbe> thegladiator: please read on that url
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> /usr/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <thegladiator> thanks
[02:24] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l,  dapper is broken :)
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> it's usr or etc?
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> no it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <brenner> SweetestSavage: try running the app thru terminal.  it might spit out some error messages when it closes
[02:24] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the ubuntu design is broken, not providing firfox as a seperate package, keeping the old gecko as standalone, making it easy to upgrade firfox, but that's probably just me
[02:24] <gnomefreak> /etc/apt/source.list
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:24] <Huffalump> So, my question is:  can anyone point me in the right direction to Enable my ath0 wireless network device?
[02:24] <katie_> whats the best client to play mp3s on?
[02:25] <SweetestSavage> brenner, okay thanks I'll try
[02:25] <netstar> dpkg -i automatically upgrades existing packages right?
[02:25] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: I didn't update my system just updated the repos and now back on breezy repos
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mwe, i can agree with that
[02:25] <mwe> gnomefreak: I heard it will change in dapper
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mwe, im sure it will but long way to go for that
[02:26] <brenner> katie_: i like beep-media-player myself, but...
[02:26] <brenner> !players
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[02:26] <cupOcocoa> I need my wireless internet to work...
[02:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:26] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i <packagename> installs a .deb package
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> katie_: For KDE 'Amarok' For Gnome Mplayer Or Totem
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> Totem's recent update also got bugs
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> 1.2.1
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> play one song and when u go for another one
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> it crashes
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> :p
[02:26] <apokryphos> katie_: though note that you can run any kde application in gnome (and visa versa).
[02:27] <katie_> what does kde stand for? does it stand for anything?
[02:27] <katie_> lol
[02:27] <mwe> katie_: K Desktop Environment
[02:27] <katie_> ty
[02:27] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, eh any is a streach :(
[02:27] <Hendikins> no idea what the K stands for though
[02:27] <St0n3-C0l> apokryphos: Surely can but do u know how much load does it takes?
[02:27] <St0n3-C0l> K desktop environment :P
[02:27] <mwe> katie_: what K stands for is a mystery
[02:27] <gnomefreak> K stands for K
[02:27] <Perversus> buenas tardes a todos
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !es
[02:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:28] <katie_> my first ever experiment with liunux was with knoppix
[02:28] <katie_> then gnoppix, then i tried freebsd, then this
[02:28] <katie_> lol
[02:28] <Perversus> lol
[02:28] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: as a general rule, yes -- pretty much any. Little proccesses like kdesktop might work differently, but of course I'm presuming you wouldn't want to run KDE on GNOME
[02:28] <mwe> gnomefreak: there have been several speculations as to what the K really stands for :)
[02:28] <apokryphos> St0n3-C0l: not that slow; it just means it'd have to load some extra libs.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, true
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> nobody knows :P
[02:28] <doinbox> how do i mount my floppy drive in pmount on ubuntu please will someone answer me
[02:28] <gnomefreak> i know i know Krap?
[02:29] <katie_> gnome is the little foot right?
[02:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: that's one guess yes :)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> katie_, that is the symbol yes
[02:29] <Huffalump> I prefer KDE over gnome, but not enough to get religious about it.
[02:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: or Kool
[02:29] <Throntel> Does anyone here know alot about linux?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !someone
[02:29] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:30] <mwe> Huffalump: I probably shouldn't mention Linus dispites gnome and loves kde :)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> he does?
[02:30] <pl_ice> hey ya, any ideas if i make iso image with dd will that open u/d windows box?
[02:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:30] <yacc> St0n3-C0l: K Desktop Environment, it's just a meaning less recursion point :)
[02:30] <kestas> he said he uses KDE over GNOME because it's more configurable
[02:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: but we shouldn't start that discussion in here
[02:30] <gnomefreak> i think KDE looks lil too much like windows :(
[02:31] <gnomefreak> mwe,  point taken :)
[02:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i heart gnome.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> coffee brb
[02:31] <Throntel> Well I can't get the synaptic package manager to work, when I press it the computer start working and after that it just stops and no window or anything pops up :S
[02:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !start distrowar
[02:31] <ubotu> CanYouHelpMePlz: I give up, what is it?
[02:31] <rickard> How do I build a IFS driver by using gcc?
[02:31] <redguy|work> !start desktopwar
[02:31] <ubotu> redguy|work: Are you smoking crack?
[02:31] <mwe> lol
[02:32] <doinbox> can some please explain to me how to mount my floppy drive in pmount please you dont understand how late i was up last night trying to figure this out. please help
[02:32] <katie_> can't you google?
[02:32] <katie_> "mount floppy drive pmount" or something
[02:32] <doinbox> katie r you talkin to me
[02:33] <doinbox> i tried googling but cant find anything straigthforward anywhere
[02:33] <netstar> is it safe to mix debian apt sources with ubuntu's?
[02:33] <mwe> netstar: no
[02:33] <knubbe> netstar: no
[02:33] <gnomefreak> doinbox, if youve been at it all night i suggest you take a good break and get back to it
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> brenner, I can't run the same program in the terminal, I tried
[02:33] <mwe> netstar: don't do it
[02:33] <redguy|work> netstar: not recommended
[02:33] <netstar> :P
[02:33] <St0n3-C0l> one thing
[02:33] <brenner> doinbox: why are you using it anyway?  no DE?
[02:33] <St0n3-C0l> why Linus preferred KDE ?
[02:33] <katie_> i would tell you, but i dont know either
[02:33] <katie_> but i dont have a floppy drive anyway
[02:33] <katie_> *shudders*
[02:33] <kessler> I just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded
[02:33] <gnomefreak> netstar, do it and you have a great chance of screwing ubuntu up
[02:33] <netstar> St0n3-C0l, because he's difficult.
[02:34] <doinbox> why am i using my floppy
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> apokryphos: I think you're right
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:34] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: please dont continue that here. go to #ubuntu-offtopic. rad http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html however. but don't comment on it anymore, please
[02:34] <brenner> SweetestSavage: really? what error do you get?
[02:34] <kestas> kessler, perhaps your hsync value is out of rance?
[02:34] <netstar> GNOME is fine,  and a productive environment.
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> alright :)
[02:34] <katie_> You know the guy that created linux, where are they from?
[02:34] <katie_> *guys
[02:34] <brenner> doinbox: no, why are you using terminal to mount one?
[02:34] <kessler> kestas: i used the settings specified in my manual to my screen (19" lcd)
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> brenner, I mean, it's not available. Like, you can run the it via terminal, but the terminal exits once you do run it
[02:34] <sjg> Got some serious issues with my x configuration, now when I first installed this machine with breezy it worked perfect. Although I dont know what I did to change it. What would be the easist way to go back to the original configuration of x? where it acutally worked? I really dont want to reinstall.?
[02:35] <netstar> plus, what does Linus know about GUI anyway?
[02:35] <doinbox> because my dvd0rw needs mounting aswell so i put my modem drivers on to a floppy disc
[02:35] <brenner> katie_: it *is* guy actually
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: you can't if you didn't make a backup
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: you'll have to reconfigure it
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> brenner, nevermind I got the terminal to stay.. it says Segmentation Fault
[02:35] <_xet> configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm.
[02:35] <katie_> I met this guy on the train once
[02:35] <brenner> SweetestSavage: ah.
[02:35] <katie_> and he said he knew the guy that created linux
[02:35] <_xet> Why do I get that when I'm trying to compile pekwm?
[02:35] <katie_> lol
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> brenner, any possible way to fix it?
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: back up what you have now and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <_xet> *configue
[02:36] <_xet> *configure :)
[02:36] <sjg> mwe: Yep, definitely didnt back it up, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt work though.
[02:36] <rickard> how do I install a "install.sh" file?
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> netstar: Yeah it is but m too desperate bout KDE 3.5 :P
[02:36] <mwe> sjg: how didn't it work?
[02:36] <brenner> doinbox: i've never used pmount.  i always used mtools
[02:36] <gnomefreak> linus created linux
[02:36] <netstar> St0n3-C0l, trust me, it sucks.
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> say anything which I don't know :P
[02:36] <doinbox> brenner what is mtools is it already installed on ubuntu
[02:36] <brenner> SweetestSavage: i'm not sure.  it could be an app bug.  have you searched the forum/s?
[02:36] <sjg> mwe, well, I ran that tool, filled in the info it asks for and still no workie :P
[02:36] <ubuntu> fpd
[02:36] <ubuntu> ss
[02:36] <ubuntu> fds.,fd
[02:36] <ubuntu> gdfg
[02:36] <SweetestSavage> brenner, no, this is a fairly isolated cause.. I'm going to try one last thing
[02:36] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <mwe> sjg: sure you filled in the correct info?
[02:37] <sjg> gonnatry again :P
[02:37] <gnomefreak> doinbox, no its not already installed you have to install it and it gives you a bunch of tools to do things like write to floppy
[02:37] <St0n3-C0l> my synaptic messed up!
[02:37] <brenner> katie_: well it's possible i guess...his name is linus torvalds if you're interested
[02:37] <mwe> sjg: can't you get in to X windows at all?
[02:37] <doinbox> but how can i install it if my floppy and dvd drive wont worl
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntu about enter
[02:38] <chmod775> !fonts
[02:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:38] <brenner> doinbox: no, it's not installed by default
[02:38] <gnomefreak> doinbox, you cant install it you dont need your hardware working to install it
[02:38] <sjg> mwe: nope
[02:38] <rickard> It says "Build the IFS driver by using the gcc compiler provided by
[02:38] <rickard>    Linux (this step will make the binary module)." what should I do?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install mtools
[02:38] <nightwatch> hi guys I fix my problem with dependencies.. I added an testing repository from debian. to do not cause problems I disable it afer intall what I wanted
[02:38] <katie_> he asked me to write
[02:38] <katie_> in this magazine for linux users
[02:38] <katie_> why linux is better than windos
[02:38] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, thats a bad idea very bad idea
[02:39] <katie_> ew, nightwatch the movie was crap
[02:39] <mwe> sjg: if rerunning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help come back and I'll try to help you out
[02:39] <St0n3-C0l> which magzine ?
[02:39] <doinbox> gnomefreak my internet is not working cause my drivers are on a floppy disk so how can i get mtools on ubuntu
[02:39] <gnomefreak> people please dont use debian repos in ubuntu use ubuntu repos
[02:39] <chmod775> !firefox
[02:39] <brenner> katie_: is this your 1st distro?
[02:39] <nightwatch> gnomefreak: but I cannot get firefox, or flex in normal repositories
[02:39] <katie_> no
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chmod775 about ff1.5
[02:39] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, what firefox cant you get?
[02:39] <deFrysk> !info xmoto
[02:40] <kestas> doinbox, you need to know the device node of the floppy disk and the filesystem
[02:40] <nightwatch> gnomefreak: theres no packed call firefox or mozilla firefox
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:40] <chmod775> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:40] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:40] <gnomefreak> chmod775, yw
[02:40] <kessler> I just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? I used the settings for vsync/hsync specified in the manual. nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded
[02:41] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, ubuntu has most debian packages if not all plus their own
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: nope no work
[02:41] <brenner> is it worth upgrading to 1.5?
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, I answered you earlier but you didnt respond
[02:41] <mwe> sjg: ok. are you using the graphical login?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> no
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: looking over the logs right now
[02:41] <aeon17x> brenner: yes.
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, oh nm
[02:41] <gnomefreak> ff1.5 isnt all that stable in ubuntu
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: not right now, got no x at all
[02:41] <doinbox> kestas how do i find that info out
[02:41] <mwe> sjg: but normally?
[02:41] <kessler> kestas: i think i did answer you before. I use the settings specified in the manual
[02:41] <brenner> gnomefreak: oh.
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, so what hsync value are you using?
[02:42] <St0n3-C0l> is there any possibility I compile Firefox 1.5 over Firefox 1.07 ?
[02:42] <kestas> doinbox, google I guess
[02:42] <kestas> doinbox, I don't have a floppy but it's something like 'sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd01440 /mnt/floppy'
[02:42] <St0n3-C0l> because on removing firefox 1.07...it's asking me to remove some other apps too
[02:42] <gnomefreak> brenner, i will go as far as to say "it works" thats about it
[02:42] <kessler> kestas: let me check... 30-82
[02:42] <sjg> mwe: Yep, normally graphical login
[02:42] <brenner> gnomefreak: i see.  thanks for the heads up
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:42] <Yango> where are the logs of Xorg located?
[02:43] <sjg> Im the only user of the system, and have it set to auto login, But I dont usually log out, Just lock the screen
[02:43] <mwe> sjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:43] <doinbox> oh sod it im just gonna get rid of linux its crap
[02:43] <doinbox> see ya
[02:43] <gnomefreak> if it ever becomes stable in enough in dapper they may backport it to breezy other than that i wont use it on breezy
[02:43] <Yango> thanks mwe :)
[02:43] <kestas> doinbox, bye
[02:43] <sjg> hmm pastebin..
[02:43] <gnomefreak> -in
[02:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> so breezy is the best ubuntu has to offer at this point? i mean since dapper is in developement
[02:44] <St0n3-C0l> Is there any way out I can configure mozilla-mplayer plugin and set my http proxy ???
[02:44] <mwe> Yango: for what?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, yes breezy has the most recent working packages
[02:44] <netstar> CanYouHelpMePlz, yeah.  What are your issues?
[02:44] <kemik> St0n3-C0l:  what do you mean "configure" mozilla.mplyer?
[02:44] <Yango> Yango where are the logs of Xorg located? => mwe sjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:44] <gnomefreak> just install mplayer :(
[02:44] <kemik> St0n3-C0l:  and proxies are setup in firefox preferences
[02:45] <mwe> Yango: oh
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> kemik: i wanna set http proxy for that
[02:45] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[02:45] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> it's already setup
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> but it doesn't read proxy settings from there
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: LOL it's installed already :P
[02:45] <kemik> so mplayer doesnt use the proxy settings ??
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[02:45] <kemik> weird
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> mplayer plugin
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, i added the line to sources.list
[02:46] <sjg> mwe: figuring out how to pastebin these files easily :P
[02:46] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I thought it'd use whatever ff is using
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, and did apt-get update
[02:46] <mwe> sjg: yeah
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, still in adept what shud I search for ?
[02:46] <mwe> thegladiator: first update
[02:46] <St0n3-C0l> mwe: mee too but it's not happening
[02:47] <mwe> thegladiator: use the terminal I don't know adept
[02:47] <thegladiator> yep
[02:47] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: weird. sounds broken
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> normally mplayer works
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> everything works
[02:47] <s_spiff> hello
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> when I open firefox and click on any movie
[02:48] <mwe> thegladiator: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should get the new kde if kde is already installed
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> it just do not detect my proxy and it tries to load directly from internet :P
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> which is not possible :>
[02:48] <s_spiff> rraajj : u from india by any chance?
[02:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> quick somone name a good ubuntu program.
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:48] <rraajj> s_spiff: Nope. Sorry.
[02:49] <mwe> sjg: maybe just paste grep ^EE from those files
[02:49] <irvin> CanYouHelpMePlz, nano
[02:49] <gnomefreak> good ubuntu program=ubuntu
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> lol :-p
[02:49] <zerodeth> hi
[02:49] <zerodeth> i am ne in linux
[02:49] <mwe> brb
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wgt is cool ;-P
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wget*
[02:49] <gnomefreak> welcome to the "fun" side zerodeth
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> It is and now I've to remove synaptic completely and install it back
[02:50] <s_spiff> hey anyone knows where I can get more of these toys for the desktop?
[02:50] <zerodeth> anyone can help me howa can i install downloader x
[02:50] <yancheng> ls > dirlist 2>&1
[02:50] <yancheng> will direct both standard output and standard error to the file dirlist
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> zerodeth: apt-get install d4x
[02:50] <jenda> CanYouHelpMePlz: my all time favorites are rm, mv and ls...
[02:50] <yancheng> ls 2>&1 > dirlist
[02:50] <yancheng> will only direct standard output to dirlist.
[02:50] <Yango> I'm having speed and responsiveness problems in breezy, which didn't happen before... top shows a heavy load (> 2) and no direct culprit besides Xorg. When I restart the notebook and don't start too many programs it behaves smoothly and quickly, but once I fire up one program too many, it gets sluggish and there's no way to get it back on track even closing everything
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> or see Synaptic for d4x
[02:50] <yancheng> However, I do see "ls 2>&1 > dirlist" in some bash script. May I know what is the purpose for that?
[02:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jenda: and what are those?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install :))
[02:50] <Yango> do any of you have a clue about what/where to look for?
[02:51] <jenda> CanYouHelpMePlz: remove, move and list
[02:51] <JarG0n> Do third party sata drivers need to be loaded in Ubuntu even if sata is not being used?
[02:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jenda: oh lol..
[02:51] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: thanks for the correction :P
[02:51] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know of an alternative GUI MySQL administrator program to MySQL-Administrator?
[02:51] <brenner> gnomefreak: i reckon you win. :)
[02:52] <gnomefreak> :( confused JarG0n you dont have sata drives but you want to install something for them?
[02:52] <Yango> SweetestSavage: DBDesigner
[02:52] <gnomefreak> n00bs dont relize sudo is needed :( thats all i meant for fixing it
[02:52] <Yango> although that's more of a designer than an administrator :)
[02:52] <IdleOne> JarG0n>  i wouldmt think so
[02:53] <SweetestSavage> Yango, thanks
[02:53] <thegladiator> i cant open no web links from XChat
[02:54] <gnomefreak> hold down ctrl and left click the link thegladiator
[02:54] <thegladiator> i have to manually riht click on the link and click on open with konqueror
[02:54] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: u are from India ?
[02:54] <St0n3-C0l> XChat 2.6.0 have removed many good options
[02:54] <thegladiator> very much
[02:55] <thegladiator> how did you guess that ?
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> ur name and ip :P
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> :>
[02:55] <thegladiator> oh :)
[02:55] <thegladiator> and you ?
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> Paki
[02:56] <thegladiator> great :)
[02:56] <JoeBlow> phew, finally back in linux
[02:56] <St0n3-C0l> ehe :P it'll be more gr8 when Cricket series will start :P
[02:56] <thegladiator> JoeBlow, happy ?!
[02:57] <thegladiator> yeah lol :) and you know who will win dont you ? :)
[02:57] <Seveas> JoeBlow, welcome home ;)
[02:57] <St0n3-C0l> Sure it's Pakistan :P
[02:57] <thegladiator> he he :p
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> I think u didn't saw England thrashed by Pakis :P
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> n Shoaib :P
[02:58] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, with linux, not fucking microsoft
[02:58] <JoeBlow> Seveas, its like not having a cigg for 2 days, and finally getting one
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> i hate cigg :p
[02:59] <thegladiator> lol yeah
[02:59] <gnomefreak> i hate them too but i enjoy smoking them :)
[02:59] <Seveas> JoeBlow, hehe
[02:59] <St0n3-C0l> hahaha
[02:59] <JoeBlow> microsoft wont let me install xp 32 bit on a partition if theirs a linux partition on that sata drive
[02:59] <St0n3-C0l> u said yeah for ? thegladiator ?
[02:59] <JoeBlow> i had to install 64 bit windows for gaming, its a peice of garbage
[02:59] <JoeBlow> and i didnt like ciggarettes till i moved to europe and tried out handrolled british tobbacco
[03:00] <JoeBlow> i hate that prerolled super chopped, super dry stuff
[03:00] <St0n3-C0l> I even hate the smoke of cigg :P
[03:00] <rickard> how do I install ntfsLinux?
[03:00] <thegladiator> @joeblow , but I also smoke :(
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> having a brainfart... what's the ident's in chmod? u , a , g , ?
[03:00] <thegladiator> so I like the comparison
[03:00] <JoeBlow> u guys never told me their was an ntfs linux!!!
[03:00] <Seveas> rickard, you can mount ntfs partitions without installing anyting...
[03:00] <thegladiator> you never asked joe
[03:00] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, my girlfriend hates me smoking more then i hate it
[03:00] <rickard> Seveas - how?
[03:01] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, (u)ser, (g)roup, (o)thers, (a)ll
[03:01] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, it always has been  they havent and have no plan on fixing it they said that vista will provide better 64 support but from what i have heard so far its still garbage on 64
[03:01] <JoeBlow> lol, if i could write to an ntfs drive in linux, that would make things alot easier
[03:01] <thegladiator> kaunsa shehar hain yaar ?
[03:01] <yancheng> how can i check what shell i am in now?
[03:01] <s_spiff>  hey i was checking the developers site for gnome...and they openly talk of hacking gnome...
[03:01] <Seveas> rickard, mount -t ntfs /dev/your_partition /path/to/mountpoint
[03:01] <thegladiator> lahore/karachi ?
[03:01] <jenda> JoeBlow: It's not an ntfs linux, just support
[03:01] <jenda> !ntfs
[03:01] <Seveas> s_spiff, hacking == programming
[03:01] <dbug> anyone advise to make the upgrade to dapper or is to soon ?
[03:01] <s_spiff> am i getting it wrong.. or are they seriously talking of hacking someone's desktop?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> yancheng, more than likely its bash (your default terminal)
[03:01] <thegladiator> !ntfs can be mounted in linux
[03:01] <ubotu> thegladiator: Are you smoking crack?
[03:01] <s_spiff> ouu ok
[03:01] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, yea, i even e-mailed them, they said "its only built for server applications, everything else its not for, so will suck"
[03:01] <s_spiff>  lol..
[03:01] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator ? ? what ya sayin
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> shehar kiska ?
[03:02] <thegladiator> your
[03:02] <thegladiator> just asking
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> LOL KHI :P
[03:02] <JoeBlow> jenda, yea im aware of that, im just joking, because having any data u wanna use in linux on a ntfs partition is such a pain, i spend half my day messing with the hassle
[03:02] <thegladiator> good :p
[03:02] <jenda> JoeBlow: Solution: do not use NTFS
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> after a very long time India will play in Khi :P
[03:02] <JoeBlow> jenda, as long as u dont want to play any modern games
[03:02] <rickard> but hod do I know wich partition is my ntfs thingy?
[03:02] <grundo> !#ubuntu
[03:02] <ubotu> here
[03:03] <gnomefreak> they are saying nov 2006 now that cista will be out. im gonna suggest you do not upgrade to vista for atleast a year after (has more bugs than xp did)
[03:03] <thegladiator> yes thats true
[03:03] <Seveas> rickard, sudo fdisk -l
[03:03] <JoeBlow> rickard, go into system, administration, disks, and look aroung
[03:03] <ompaul> s_spiff, just because the closed source software world breaks the language that we speak long before they use it does not mean that they (A) understand (B) are not out to undermine us
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lol look around
[03:03] <thegladiator> around*
[03:03] <grundo> :-)
[03:03] <JoeBlow> i find if ppl are new to linux and just coming from windows, like me, its easier if u can give them a graphical rather then command line solution
[03:03] <ompaul> s_spiff, search for the new hackers dictionary online and look up the word hacker
[03:03] <St0n3-C0l> s_spiff: I used to understand that...but as days passed I learnt that HACKERS are called GURUS OF PROGRAMMING :P
[03:04] <ompaul> s_spiff, it is a word from the 50's
[03:04] <Whistler> i got a scsi scanner, and i need a driver for domex 536 scsi > pci adapter
[03:04] <Seveas> St0n3-C0l, :)
[03:04] <Whistler> where can i find it
[03:04] <JoeBlow> it matters who u talk to as to what a hacker is
[03:04] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, most users from win unless they have woprked with DOS directly they dont have a clue what a commmand line does :(
[03:04] <JoeBlow> my cousin is a programmer, and hes like "hacking is just normaly programming" but common acceptance is hacking is malicous programing, or malicous use of someone elses network
[03:05] <rickard> Can I chose mountpoint myslef?
[03:05] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, like all socialist nations, Microshaft nation is out to undermine and dumb down the world
[03:05] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, thats very true
[03:05] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, that means basiclly, Windows= Satan, Linux = Jesus
[03:05] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: People used to say...we'll hack msn passwords but actually it's cracking not hacking :P
[03:05] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:06] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, well technically yea, but the common acceptance among ppl who arent really involved in computers just call it all hacking, so i just say ok hacking, keep it simple, cause in the end all forms of "hacking" are in a sub catagory
[03:06] <thegladiator> lets not downplay windows :) gates is a good businessman  . he tricked us well :)
[03:06] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: It's really cold here and even more cold in punjab so all fog :P
[03:06] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, still tricking, im dual booting :(
[03:06] <rickard> If I want to mount my ntfs partition to the "Computer" folder thingy.. so it's next to my cd how do I write?
[03:06] <thegladiator> yes I know very cold in winter !
[03:06] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[03:07] <thegladiator> matches will be abrupted ? hopefully not
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: Who updates MS ? :P
[03:07] <JoeBlow> all we need is better game support, and windows is gone off my system, but even if i use wine, its better in windows
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> it makes my PC slow :>
[03:07] <IdleOne> im not a big fan of Microsoft but I think that without windows most of the world would still be ignorant as to what a computer can do...Linux allows a user more flexabilty but windows did make it ( a computer ) easier to use for the masses
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> and more buggy LOL :P
[03:07] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas, thanks... (0)
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: Nah
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> but it'll be very foggy
[03:07] <gnomefreak> the original hackers were real   hacking =changing something in a sense crackers are the malisus ones you break passwords and stuff
[03:07] <thegladiator> i see
[03:07] <JoeBlow> lol, i dunno, i thought windows was fine, untill i got into linux, and then last night i decided to game again, so i put in windows, and remembered real fast why i went to linux
[03:08] <St0n3-C0l> in Lahore u need headlights at daytime to see anything!
[03:08] <St0n3-C0l> plus showers
[03:08] <thegladiator> tuf conditions
[03:08] <JoeBlow> my real problem with windows is, the money aspect, the cost of one operating system, and then next month a new one with a new tool bar color, or a new shiny toy comes out, and its 100 bucks more
[03:08] <brenner> IdleOne: i'm with you on both accounts
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: Since I installed ubuntu back..went back to windows just for file recovery
[03:09] <IdleOne> JoeBlow>  thats why I dont like windows..the cost is rediculous
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> well...is there any File Recovery software for Linux on Linux ?
[03:09] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, i did it to play quake 2, yesterday id was down so i couldnt get the quake 2 binary
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: Really
[03:09] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow,  everything that runs on microsoft (thats good) costs money  that is just one reason to not like them
[03:09] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, if i was a rich man i wouldnt mind, but im not, so i do
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[03:10] <St0n3-C0l> i got a pirated windows but still MS thinks it's genuine :P
[03:10] <barongas> Anyone really good at apt problems? My apt has recently freaked out whenever it tries to install anything
[03:10] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  thank god for open source where we can get most of if not all the good programs for windows free
[03:10] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, even if i was rich why pay for something that you can get free that works better and has better upgrading capabilities
[03:10] <thegladiator> you cant let everything free of cost there has to be money somewhere and thats where support comes in
[03:10] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, ig ot that 32 bit, but it gives me real trouble with my sata drive, so i have to use 64 bit, i can only use it 30 days then i have to reinstall
[03:10] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, games
[03:10] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, only reason
[03:10] <rickard> whu doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt play pc games
[03:11] <kiran> could someone help me out a bit with ssh?
[03:11] <thegladiator> ask kiran
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: I am using Windows 2000 Professional so whenever it asks me for genuine advantage....:P it allows me to download anything from the site
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[03:11] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, I didn tbuy a gig of ram to see how many windows of internet i could open
[03:11] <barongas> It downloads the files but then it say: W: Could not take status of the sourcecodelist <adress> -stat (2 The file or catalogue doesn't exist)
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> we're all ready :P
[03:11] <kiran> thegladiator, i just installed ubuntu on my machine, and i'd like to acces ubuntu trough putty on my windowd machine? how should i setup the ssh server?
[03:12] <JoeBlow> i havent programmed in years
[03:12] <JoeBlow> not since highschool
[03:12] <barongas> The issue arose after fsck found problems with my drive, right after I intstalled windows on another drive
[03:12] <Seveas> kiran, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:12] <gnomefreak> barongas, can you please use pastebin to paste the output errors?
[03:12] <Seveas> done/.
[03:12] <thegladiator> as a fact , I have never used the paid windows . always been using the free one . so it really didnt matter to me , the cost I mean , and linux had to be downloaded . but still i like linux , even i MS coms free for me
[03:12] <JoeBlow> i did 2 years c++, and then i started a java class, but it was to god damn object oriented, so i just dumped it
[03:12] <barongas> gnomefreak, sure, but it's in swedish...
[03:12] <thegladiator> free one = pirated :/
[03:12] <barongas> gnomefreak, is it possible to get the output in a language most people understand?
[03:12] <JoeBlow> thats why i run English ubuntu
[03:13] <victor> irc.ubuntu-tr.com
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: LOL here windows cds cost bout 30=rs :P
[03:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i edit the ssh login message?
[03:13] <thegladiator> barongas, what output ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> that doesnt help me :( ok barongas look in your sources.list file and look at very very top do you have a # infront of cdrom repo?
[03:13] <thegladiator> lol here its free :) friends !
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> hardly half dollar :P
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> that's something diff :P
[03:13] <JoeBlow> tonight i go to my father in laws house, and put ubuntu on his system, he wanted to use mandrake, but i couldnt help him out with it, cause i only know how to use ubuntu, and odnt want to hassle
[03:13] <barongas> thegladiator, apt output
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> I also got win98 cd mufta :P
[03:13] <roune> anyone knows anything about how to get the wlan working?
[03:13] <barongas> gnomefreak, yes
[03:14] <JoeBlow> I suppose the syntax is about the same for all Debian distros?
[03:14] <barongas> gnomefreak, 2 in fact, and it has been running perfectly for months
[03:14] <thegladiator> barongas, you can use GUI frontends for apt like adepts
[03:14] <kiran> Seveas, open 13 acces denied :s
[03:14] <ompaul> JoeBlow, well most of the others will not use sudo otherwise yes
[03:14] <St0n3-C0l> u use KDE ?
[03:14] <thegladiator> apt is nto meant for literature , it is meant for updating
[03:14] <barongas> thegladiator, Yeah I use synaptic now and then but it has the same problem
[03:14] <rickard> why doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work? It says the mountpath doesn't exists.
[03:14] <St0n3-C0l> kiran: install openssh-server and then in putty put the ip address of ur Linux box
[03:14] <thegladiator> barongas, u neednt worry much , as long as you can get the packages installed
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, are you having troubles with package installation >?
[03:15] <barongas> thegladiator, I can't, it just downloads but won't install
[03:15] <gnomefreak> error 13 is a sudo error kiran sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[03:15] <ompaul> rickard, >>sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs<<
[03:15] <gnomefreak> openssh-server
[03:15] <JoeBlow> ompaul, they use su instead right?
[03:15] <thegladiator> i see. it hangs ?
[03:15] <barongas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, ?
[03:15] <JoeBlow> ompaul, or are they straight on the root?
[03:15] <ompaul> JoeBlow, correct
[03:15] <thegladiator> which is the package ?
[03:15] <barongas> thegladiator, yes, no packages install at all
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, which package were you trying to ?
[03:15] <ompaul> JoeBlow, well most of them will set up a non root user except that pile called linspire
[03:16] <JoeBlow> ompaul, su, or straight on root?
[03:16] <thegladiator> have you enabled all repos ?
[03:16] <kiran> tnx gnomefreak,
[03:16] <gnomefreak> barongas, run sudo apt-get update and let me know of any errors
[03:16] <gnomefreak> yw kiran
[03:16] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i prefer sudo big time
[03:16] <roune> has anyone got the wlan working?
[03:16] <rickard> Now it says I don't have permissions to view the content in the mounted folder? :|
[03:16] <s_spiff> kiran studio?
[03:16] <thegladiator> I am on KDE
[03:16] <JoeBlow> rickard, are u trying to mount ntfs?
[03:16] <rickard> yes
[03:16] <barongas> gnomefreak, I've tried five different all the same error
[03:16] <JoeBlow> rickard, alright i can help you out, i do this every single day
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, and im doing it righ tnow anyway
[03:17] <barongas> sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok go to terminal
[03:17] <barongas> mistype
[03:17] <rickard> JoeBlow ok
[03:17] <gnomefreak> barongas, when you run sudo apt-get update it errors out witha  stat error?
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok type out , sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:18] <barongas> gnomefreak, hmm it stops at 99% at public.planetmirror.com. I'll remove that
[03:18] <rickard> JoeBlow, yea ok
[03:18] <gnomefreak> barongas, yes do that that one gave me issues also if you have extras repo # that out
[03:18] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok sue your arrow key, and go to where it says defaults for the NTFS partition or drive
[03:18] <barongas> gnomefreak, without planetmirror it reads the lists with no problem
[03:18] <JoeBlow> rickard, use*
[03:18] <IdleOne> where would libtcl.so be located?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> barongas, can you translate the full error into english?
[03:19] <ProtectYaNeck> I can't seem to get my live cd to work on the internet
[03:19] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok wher eit says default, delete it , and type umask=0222 in its place
[03:20] <ProtectYaNeck> it says that it's enabled and it is configurable but I can't visit any websites
[03:20] <rickard> JoeBlow, wait a sec.. I don't find my ntfs drive
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ok good no errors than :))
[03:20] <JoeBlow> oh u didnt mount it yert did ya?
[03:20] <JoeBlow> rickard, oh u didnt mount it yert did ya?
[03:20] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok go to system, administration, disks, then find out harddrive, go to partitions tab, and enable all that u want to use in linux
[03:20] <rickard> i think I did
[03:20] <barongas> gnomefreak, tried an apt-get upgrade and got: dpkg: interpretation error: in file:  "/var/lib/dpkg/available" near line 26814 package "libgtk2.0-bin":
[03:20] <barongas>  newlinesymbol i field name "Name=Emulatorer"
[03:21] <gnomefreak> barongas, are you on breezy or dapper?
[03:21] <barongas> gnomefreak, breezy
[03:21] <St0n3-C0l> Breezy is like Fresh Breeze :P
[03:21] <JoeBlow> rickard, waht do u see at /etc/fstab ?
[03:21] <barongas> gnomefreak, or hoary, which one is later
[03:21] <JoeBlow> on a sweaty armpit?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> breezy is the last stable release
[03:21] <St0n3-C0l> Dapper is similar to Diaper :P
[03:22] <barongas> gnomefreak, breezy it is then
[03:22] <JoeBlow> i wanna give kubuntu a try, i think ill d/L that tonight
[03:22] <St0n3-C0l> which will trouble u every 4-5 hours :P
[03:22] <rickard> JoeBlow, something called proc, ext3, swap, cdrom and cdburner and floppy
[03:22] <vlado_> nick WebKiller
[03:22] <albacker> !java
[03:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:22] <gnomefreak> barongas, im not real sure why its doing that can you upgrade using notifier?
[03:22] <JoeBlow> rickard, did u do the system, administration, disks ? and enable it?
[03:23] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes. Do I need to reboot after?
[03:23] <albacker> !javadebs
[03:23] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:23] <barongas> gnomefreak, notifier only starts synaptic which returns the errors of apt
[03:23] <gnomefreak> barongas, sounds like a broken package but i dont really know:(
[03:23] <edusurf> hello
[03:23] <JoeBlow> rickard, no this is linux, forget about ever rebooting
[03:23] <JoeBlow> rickard, no need to here, its better here
[03:24] <edusurf> please, help me about amsn
[03:24] <gnomefreak> barongas, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   run that see if it gives same errors and let me know if the errors say to use -f or smart updater
[03:24] <barongas> gnomefreak, I'm worried that I might have some file corrupted or something since it all started after fsck forcing a hd cleanup after I installed windows on another partition
[03:24] <JoeBlow> rickard, do u see the ntfs partition within, system,administration, disks, like the name of it under the partitions tab
[03:24] <gnomefreak> barongas, that could very well be
[03:24] <Mace> 1
[03:24] <St0n3-C0l> Thankgod ! Synaptic fixed :P
[03:24] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:24] <gnomefreak> forcing is not really recommended
[03:24] <edusurf> please, help me about amsn installation
[03:24] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, what was wrong with it
[03:24] <JoeBlow> rickard, can u browse it from their?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> edusurf, sudo apt-get install amsn
[03:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> whats good about aMsn ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> nothing
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> I was clicking on Repositories and instead giving me options to edit repos...it was updating them :p
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:25] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:25] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, lol, damn
[03:25] <barongas> gnomefreak, damn now it won't realize that I closed synaptic down and an't lock the admin dir
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> gaim lots of gooms :-D
[03:25] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok its mounted, go back to terminal
[03:25] <gnomefreak> barongas, try reboot
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> goods*
[03:25] <barongas> gnomefreak, got it with killall
[03:26] <barongas> gnomefreak, same error
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ok that will work too
[03:26] <rickard> JoeBlow, oks
[03:26] <St0n3-C0l> tell me the ntfs line which will allow me to access my NTFS Partition ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> i think that file is broken the lib file
[03:26] <JoeBlow> rickard, type out exactly
[03:26] <barongas> gnomefreak, can it be possible to just replace the /var/lib/dpkg/available file with a clean one?
[03:26] <JoeBlow> rickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:27] <gnomefreak> barongas, dont know never done it and i dont know what else depends on it
[03:27] <edusurf> gnomefreak, after digit that command, aMSN is installed in my machine?
[03:27] <rickard> JoeBlow, ye. still doesn't see any ntfs
[03:27] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, /dev/hdzz       /wherever        ntfs    defaults
[03:27] <gnomefreak> edusurf, it should after it gets done what it does
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> barongas: It's already on defaults
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, in fstab
[03:28] <gnomefreak> !info amsn
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, an it wont mount?
[03:28] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[03:28] <gnomefreak> edusurf, you have to have universe repo enabled
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:28] <barongas> gnomefreak, Hmmm... It would be a nuisance to have to reinstall ubuntu
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edusurf about universe
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, oops
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> it's mounting
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> but read-only
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok do u have gaim?
[03:28] <IdleOne> can anybody help me with Tcl?
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, a name for aim or yahoo?
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, ntfs can only be ro in linux
[03:29] <goldplatedpentiu> hi every1
[03:29] <St0n3-C0l> awww
[03:29] <CanYouHelpMePlz> when will ventrilo come out with a linux client..ARG!
[03:29] <edusurf> thanks gnomefreak
[03:29] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, You can access the linux drive from windows though
[03:29] <gnomefreak> yw edusurf
[03:29] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:29] <barongas> gnomefreak, yeah thanks
[03:29] <JoeBlow> rickard, what do u have?
[03:29] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[03:29] <gaz> anyone know of any newsgroup applications equivalent to newsleecher for windows that accepts nzb files?
[03:29] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: you're one letter short :P
[03:29] <goldplatedpentiu> i kno
[03:30] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, Need some special program though. Don't blame linux, it's windows anal secrecy problems that stops us from writing ntfs drives
[03:30] <goldplatedpentiu> im still new to this
[03:30] <brenner> :)
[03:30] <St0n3-C0l> barongas: I am not blaming Linux for that
[03:30] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, good :)
[03:30] <rickard> JoeBlow, um, i got msn
[03:31] <JoeBlow> rickard, one seocn bro
[03:31] <St0n3-C0l> well heard Kopete 3.5 is good
[03:31] <McJerry> gaz: good question
[03:31] <Hendikins> Kopete in 3.5 works
[03:31] <goldplatedpentiu> i cant seem to play mp3's wiv rythembox
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: it's great
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: is that good ?
[03:32] <Hendikins> I won't say it is the best thing since sliced bread, but it seems nice and reliable.
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: it even has full webcam support
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> Hendikins: I want some screenshots of it
[03:32] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: of what of it?
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> Kopete
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: why don't you just install it?
[03:32] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok bro, let me make u a room
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: you can apt-get it with the right sources
[03:32] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <barongas> goldplatedpentiu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> not a bad one :P but will surely try :>
[03:33] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok join  #poobuntu
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> low-bandwidth atm
[03:33] <ninnghizidha> how to switch to single-user-mode, please?
[03:33] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-chatwindow.png
[03:33] <Huffalump> what is Kopete?
[03:33] <Hendikins> That's a random chat window
[03:33] <Brunellus>  to get hw rendering on an nvidia card, do I have to add "Option RenderAccel  True" to my xorg.conf?
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> and not only kopete will download....a bundle of other libs will be downloaded too :P
[03:33] <Hendikins> Huffalump: multi-protocol IM client for KDE
[03:33] <mwe> ninnghizidha: You can't because it wants a root password
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> np
[03:33] <Huffalump> oh like Gaim and Adium?
[03:33] <Hendikins> Huffalump: See http://kopete.kde.org/
[03:33] <mwe> ninnghizidha: and ubuntu doesn't set one
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[03:34] <mwe> ninnghizidha: however there is a workaround
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> It used to suck before :P
[03:34] <Hendikins> Yeah, sort of like Gaim for KDE. Conceptually anyway.
[03:34] <mwe> ninnghizidha: what do you need to do?
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> but not GAIM :P
[03:34] <Huffalump> kewl
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> good one
[03:35] <gnomefreak> yuck at kopete :(
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> will try
[03:35] <mwe> off topic
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> ahh..one thing...support for proxy ???
[03:35] <qwarrior> hello there, need a bit of help
[03:35] <mwe> !helpme
[03:35] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> normally I've to use tsocks for every K app
[03:35] <goldplatedpentiu> thanks brenner
[03:35] <goldplatedpentiu> got it sorted
[03:36] <gnomefreak> qwarrior, ask or we cant begin to help :(
[03:36] <qwarrior> ok, just loaded 5.10 a couple of times
[03:36] <mwe> qwarrior: that's not a problem
[03:36] <qwarrior> and I didn't see where I was supposed to set up root.
[03:36] <mwe> qwarrior: you're not
[03:36] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: yw
[03:36] <mwe> !tell qwarrior about root
[03:36] <goldplatedpentiu> i installed dual boot ubuntu wiv XP
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> mwe: Kopete supports proxy now ?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> mwe, kind of is ubuntu only needs to be set up once :(
[03:37] <mwe> qwarrior: using sudo instead of root is the ubuntu policy
[03:37] <goldplatedpentiu> haven't bothered wiv xp yet
[03:37] <kameron> good morning.
[03:37] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I don't know
[03:37] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I would think so
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> good morning pal
[03:37] <Huffalump> its like the Mac, you dont log in as root... you just get temporary root-power when you  need it.
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> ;P
[03:37] <JoeBlow> whats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?
[03:37] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: so i guess you're liking it so far?
[03:37] <goldplatedpentiu> yeah
[03:37] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-userlist.png
[03:38] <goldplatedpentiu> was using slax b4
[03:38] <JoeBlow> !ntfs
[03:38] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:38] <St0n3-C0l> in previous release i used to use tsocks for everything
[03:38] <goldplatedpentiu> got bored of the constant crashing
[03:38] <gnomefreak> kopete still doesnt support chat rooms though
[03:38] <JoeBlow> whats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> !mount
[03:38] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:39] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: as in?
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> good one hendikins
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> thanx
[03:39] <erUSUL> !tell JoeBlow about windowsdrives
[03:39] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: ouch
[03:39] <gnomefreak> last time i used kopete it didnt allow me to join any aim rooms
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> KDE is developing faster than Gnome
[03:40] <Hendikins> Quite possible that Kopete simply doesn't have any front end for it
[03:40] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: any measures to backup your claim?
[03:40] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: Anything else you want screenshotted?
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> Hendikins: NO thanks
[03:40] <Hendikins> Rightio.
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> Jhair: I feel...e.g gnome removed their own menu editor
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> and now 3rd party menu editor is needed
[03:41] <JoeBlow> hey this guy has his drive enabled , and mounted, bet fstab doesnt find it, anyone ever seen that?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, they did?
[03:41] <St0n3-C0l> it was said that they'll include menu editor in the newer versio
[03:41] <gnomefreak> explain please  because breezy and dapper both have menu editors
[03:41] <Hendikins> Can we move this holy war somewhere else? Like #ubuntu-offtopic? Or perhaps /dev/null?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Wheres the menu editor? :p
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed it.
[03:41] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: its 3rd party editor not official gnome one
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Dr_Acemaster, in dapper or breezy?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  5.10   ;)  *#&# the cute names.
[03:42] <gnomefreak> in system tools
[03:42] <Dr_Acemaster> I'm trying to access a windows box from ubuntu, I can ping it, but can't find it w/ file browser, how do I find it?
[03:42] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: oh I see, that's because they don't want to confuse users :( ->http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[03:42] <Dr_Acemaster> or how do I access it
[03:42] <Hendikins> and I feel more comfortable with KDE3, although it may have to do that I've been using it since SuSE 8.0 was released.
[03:42] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,   I often use a samba browser tool like K3b.
[03:43] <Hendikins> er, may have to do with the fact that I've...
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: is that in the package manager?
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  i have had some issues in the past with the gnomes  samba browing features..  but let me check.
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> well it worked great until I installed a switch
[03:43] <stout> under gnome do u prefer use gnomebaker or graveman?
[03:43] <St0n3-C0l> Jhair: This statement made by Linus to encourage for ...
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> both boxes are on the same switch
[03:43] <gnomefreak> thought k3b was a cd burnner app :(
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> lol @ gnomefreak
[03:43] <roune> linux and wlan, help! :D
[03:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:44] <Jhair> stout: I had huge problems with gnomebaker (crashes), graveman was more stable for me
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> gnomebaker and graveman both are good
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  yea.  under the gnome file manager ya can use somtning.,. Oh yea.. I ment Smb4K
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:44] <Hendikins> I prefer k3b to the options presented.
[03:44] <Hendikins> although I do use xcdroast occasionally
[03:44] <stout> gnome baker ist ibernated when i start burn
[03:44] <roune> plzlpz help to get my wlan working! i dont wanna keep sitting on my crappy windows :P
[03:45] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: ...for KDE... but any way i use xfce so I don't care :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roune about wifi
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> whats the problem now with Synaptic
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> again that same problem
[03:45] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, what problem on what ubuntu version?
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> Breezy
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> when I click on Repositories
[03:46] <stout> i think iits better use apt ... its cool! ( jpoke)
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> and that thing happened few hours ago
[03:46] <Dr_Acemaster> smb4k says it's a kde samba browser, can I still use it in gnome?
[03:46] <Hendikins> Tomorrow I'm going to do some ripping in to Firefox docs on the wiki, now that I've got my vmwared Breezy
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> instead of editing the repos it starts updating :P
[03:46] <gnomefreak> very very infomative can you be lil less general :(
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh
[03:46] <gnomefreak> hold on brb
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> everytime I open terminal
[03:47] <brenner> Dr_Acemaster: course you can.  it will install all the kde libs it requires
[03:47] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, use sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list for now it should work
[03:47] <Dr_Acemaster> brenner: thanks :)
[03:47] <brenner> Dr_Acemaster: same things the other way.  gnome apps can be used in kde
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> i've to type : export http_proxy=http://abc:8080
[03:47] <brenner> np
[03:47] <smtkr> Is lame no longer in any of the repositories
[03:48] <St0n3-C0l> is there any way that everytime I open terminel that thing is already exported
[03:48] <brenner> Hendikins: good on you
[03:48] <gaz> where would one put commands that i wished to be performed at startup
[03:48] <smtkr> Just doing a little reading (for uni) and trying to figure out a good mp3 ripper for linux
[03:48] <St0n3-C0l> ?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> !info lame
[03:48] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[03:49] <gnomefreak> its in multiverse
[03:49] <Hendikins> Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the Firefox docs on the wiki? Sure, I'm going to go in with a chainsaw and do surgery, but I'm also after feedback.
[03:49] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, mine worked fine
[03:49] <brenner> gaz: sys > pres > sessions maybe
[03:49] <brenner> *prefs
[03:50] <gaz> for instance when i used fedora i could use /etc/rc.local
[03:51] <Yango> what is kded?
[03:51] <roune> thanks for the link^^
[03:51] <albacker> !javareps
[03:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, albacker
[03:51] <stout> uasaly in debian the kernel modules are in /etc/modules, its tehe same in ubuntu?
[03:51] <albacker> !javarepos
[03:51] <ubotu> albacker: What?
[03:51] <albacker> !java
[03:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:51] <albacker> !javadebs
[03:51] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:52] <brenner> stout: correct afaik
[03:52] <brenner> Yango: kded?
[03:53] <Yango> brenner: kded.
[03:53] <Yango>  kded -- triggers Sycoca database updates when needed
[03:53] <Yango> but i don't know what is Sycoca even :)
[03:54] <Yango> and it eats CPU like a prime numbers calculator
[03:54] <brenner> Yango: 1st i've heard of it. sorry.
[03:55] <pm> hello. Did any of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?
[03:55] <xester> good day
[03:56] <pm> Did anyone*
[03:56] <pm> sorry about my English :P
[03:56] <iLLf8d> morning
[03:56] <stout> its evening?
[03:57] <pm> morning? It's afternoon :P
[03:57] <iLLf8d> good evening to you then
[03:57] <thegladiator> i get this error checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[03:57] <thegladiator> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:57] <thegladiator> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:57] <iLLf8d> good day!
[03:57] <thegladiator> how can I correct it?
[03:57] <iLLf8d> its night =P
[03:57] <pm> good day :)
[03:57] <brenner> thegladiator: [1]  what are you installing? [2]  install build-essential
[03:57] <stout> but its the same day?
[03:57] <pm> where are you now, iLLf8d? :)
[03:58] <Hendikins> iLLf8d: 2AM here. What do you call that? :P
[03:58] <damotor> Hi. I'm trying to use my camcoder and amsn but amsn says there's no webcam, what can I do in order to use my camcoder as a webcam?
[03:58] <thegladiator> brenner, a simple theme for kde . I do a ./configure and get this error
[03:58] <St0n3-C0l> and here it's 8:00 P.m
[03:58] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[03:58] <iLLf8d> oh I got my bad startrek movies confused I just started first contact thought it was nemisis
[03:58] <iLLf8d> nemesis even
[03:58] <stout> for me ita 16.04 or 4.04 pm
[03:58] <brenner> thegladiator: try [2] , then configuring again
[03:58] <iLLf8d> Hendikins, good day covers it all
[03:58] <pm> 3 58 pm, Warsaw time :)
[03:59] <brenner> thegladiator: since when do themes need compiling?
[03:59] <St0n3-C0l> Anybody need that plugin for kopete which is the song ur playing on amarok will be displayed on Kopete MSN's nick
[03:59] <joergd> with both "breezy" and "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list, how to tell apt/aptitude to use "breezy" as default but make "dapper" packets available as well?
[03:59] <thegladiator> brenner, window theme actually
[04:00] <cleo> joergd: apt-pinning, pin the release to "breezy" http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[04:01] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: ok installed smb4k, and it found the windows box right away, but it's not seeing any of the folders
[04:02] <thegladiator> brenner, now I get a diff error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation
[04:02] <Kreuzfeldt> hi all
[04:02] <thegladiator> i am using kde on ubuntu
[04:02] <Pygi> gladiator: kubuntu?
[04:03] <thegladiator> kubuntu-dektop installed in ubuntu
[04:03] <St0n3-C0l> I'll install kde 3.5 tonight
[04:04] <thegladiator> how can I resolve that error ? checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) ?
[04:04] <thegladiator> its nice stone
[04:04] <thegladiator> better than 3.4.3
[04:04] <brenner> my guess is you need libqt4-dev
[04:04] <thegladiator> lemme try
[04:04] <Hendikins> What is the equavilent of qt3-devel in the Ubuntu world?
[04:04] <St0n3-C0l> better than GNOME :>
[04:04] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[04:04] <Hendikins> and qt4 will NOT work
[04:04] <thegladiator> yeah
[04:04] <brenner> thegladiator: you might want to try out checkinstall
[04:04] <thegladiator> it wont work Hendikins  ?
[04:04] <redguy|work> !info qt3-dev
[04:05] <Hendikins> It wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.0
[04:05] <St0n3-C0l> first of all i wana try kopete
[04:05] <redguy|work> !info libqt3-dev
[04:05] <St0n3-C0l> bcoz gtk apps looks weird on kde :P
[04:05] <thegladiator> so Hendikins shud i install qt4 as brenner said ?
[04:05] <Hendikins> thegladiator: You can pretty much assume that anything using Qt at the moment won't work with Qt4 properly/at all.
[04:05] <thegladiator> gaim is okay stone
[04:05] <kbrooks> ping
[04:06] <thegladiator> ah
[04:06] <Hendikins> thegladiator: Install Qt3's development packages, not Qt4
[04:06] <thegladiator> and it needs greater than 3.3 so what is the fix ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> yep
[04:06] <Hendikins> It wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.0
[04:06] <Hendikins> So whatever fits the bill
[04:06] <thegladiator> whats the library ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> called?
[04:06] <Hendikins> What are you building anyway?
[04:06] <thegladiator> libqt4 ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> its a justa  window theme for kde
[04:06] <brenner> sorry for my mistake
[04:07] <JoeBlow> how do i set to beep to my default mp3 player?
[04:07] <Hendikins> Although doing a search on packages.ubuntu for qt3 will probably tell you.
[04:07] <brenner> JoeBlow: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus > properties > open with tab
[04:08] <some_dude> hi everyone
[04:08] <Kreuzfeldt> anyone knows how to get a soundblaster audigy working on 5.10?
[04:08] <JoeBlow> brenner, thanks
[04:08] <kbrooks> some_dude, just ask
[04:08] <Xoritor> i think i may give ubuntu a shot
[04:08] <Xoritor> heard lots of good stuff about it
[04:09] <some_dude> where might i find a wxruby package ?
[04:09] <Pygi> !info wxruby
[04:09] <St0n3-C0l> Xoritor: You should :P
[04:09] <Pygi> no such package in ubuntu repos
[04:09] <pm> don't you compile kernels?
[04:09] <Xoritor> when i get my drive back from plextor i probably will
[04:09] <redguy|work> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[04:10] <brenner> Xoritor: what are you running now?
[04:10] <redguy|work> darn
[04:10] <Xoritor> FC4
[04:10] <redguy|work> !info libqt-mt-dev
[04:10] <Xoritor> some FC3
[04:10] <Xoritor> and quite a few RHEL 3 & 4 boxes
[04:10] <St0n3-C0l> FC sucks:P
[04:10] <brenner> Xoritor: so you've never used a deb based distro?
[04:11] <Xoritor> brenner, i used deb in the 90s
[04:11] <Xoritor> not since about 99 though
[04:11] <brenner> apparently they're less troublesome than rpms
[04:11] <Xoritor> hmm
[04:11] <Seveas> brenner, that's an understatement :)
[04:11] <gaz> anyone know of any good newsgroup applications similar to newsleecher for windows?
[04:11] <brenner> glad to hear i'm not wrong for once. :)
[04:12] <Xoritor> gaz nget?
[04:12] <Blissex> gaz: what do you want to do?
[04:12] <gaz> is it compatible with .nzb files?
[04:12] <joergd> cleo: thanks
[04:12] <Xoritor> i dont know what newsleecher is
[04:12] <Xoritor> no
[04:12] <gaz> no of any that are/
[04:12] <Xoritor> gaz, not that i know of
[04:12] <thegladiator> 1545 packages installed out of 17843 available
[04:13] <Xoritor> nget is easy to grab what you want nget -g alt.binaries.pictures -r '[sS] omepicture.[jJ] [pP] [gG] '
[04:14] <Xoritor> or osme thing like that
[04:14] <ccc_> gaz: there's one for kde called knzb
[04:14] <Xoritor> what is an nzb?
[04:15] <gaz> its a file which stores the location of file on newsgroups making getting them easy check out www.newzbin.com
[04:15] <Xoritor> anyone point me to a "network install" howto for ubuntu?
[04:16] <goldplatedpentiu> hi every1
[04:16] <JoeBlow> < listens to beavis and butthead theme one more time
[04:16] <Mercury> Anyone know of a simple program to convert some text (or a whole text file) from a specified charset to UTF8?
[04:16] <brenner> Xoritor: not sure if there *is* one, but a good place to look for it would be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:16] <Kreuzfeldt> anyone knows how to properly set up a soundblaster audigy? please pm me :\ i just got crackling sound thats all
[04:16] <Xoritor> hmm
[04:17] <stout> good bye people
[04:17] <goldplatedpentiu> i can confirm that ubuntu is the best free OS ive seen so far
[04:17] <jonathon> Does anyone know how to install KDE along with gnome on ubuntu?
[04:17] <Blissex> jonathon: on the wiki.
[04:17] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: awesome :)
[04:17] <goldplatedpentiu> the support is great
[04:17] <jonathon> Thank you Blissex :)
[04:17] <Blissex> jonathon: something like 'apt-get install kde-desktop'
[04:18] <Xoritor> anyone have permissions to edit the wiki?
[04:18] <pm> Kreuzfeldt, did you call me? :)
[04:18] <Xoritor> found a typeo
[04:18] <Xoritor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OnNFSDrive
[04:18] <iLLf8d> goldplatedpentiu, everyones been waiting for your confirmation =P
[04:18] <brenner> jonathon: install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[04:18] <Xoritor> wroten?
[04:18] <Xoritor> first like
[04:18] <jonathon> t/y
[04:18] <Xoritor> err
[04:18] <goldplatedpentiu> :-p
[04:18] <Xoritor> first line
[04:18] <Mercury> Ah, there we go.
[04:18] <Darky469> does  anyone  knows  how  to  install codeweavers-crossover-pro-4.2.sh
[04:18] <boxerboy29> well i could really do without the black background :(
[04:19] <kameron> Darky469, i don't know, i don't think it's a free program.
[04:19] <goldplatedpentiu> WiFi was a bit ov a git 2 get workin
[04:19] <bubblenut> Hi, yesterday I could connect to my PSP fine and transfer files to and from it, today it's getting mounted as a readonly filesystem, any ideas why this may be?
[04:19] <tbw> I've got a P4 3.6ghz machine, is it capable of throttling?
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> albacker: ?
[04:20] <Blissex> bubblenut: usually filesystems are mounted RO when they have been uncleanly mounted, so try running fsck
[04:20] <JoeBlow> tbw, its capable of kicking ass
[04:20] <brenner> boxerboy29: bg in what?
[04:20] <goldplatedpentiu> i would really like a wifi signal meter though
[04:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}> whats throttling?
[04:20] <JoeBlow> s_spiff, i dunno, i think its intel talk
[04:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P
[04:21] <ChrisC> hello ... is vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)
[04:21] <tbw> JoeBLow: What what I want to do is monitor the temperature of the CPU zone and the case zone... but I can't find a utility to do that... does the stock kernel not come with lmsensors?
[04:21] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: well your idea of "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" didn't worked for me
[04:21] <JoeBlow> tbw, no clue bro, but im sure their is something
[04:21] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, you couldnt edit it?
[04:22] <goldplatedpentiu> does any1 kno if konfabulator has a linux version
[04:22] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is the command to edit the sources list
[04:22] <gnomefreak> after that you save close than run sudo apt-get update
[04:23] <goldplatedpentiu> also how do i get folding@home on ubuntu 5.10
[04:23] <alekandr> skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:<IP_ADDRESS>); however:
[04:23] <alekandr>   Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[04:23] <ChrisC> goldplatedpentiu: search ubuntuforums for boinc info, I did it
[04:23] <alekandr> :(
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> ChrisC: I will
[04:24] <gaz> are there any cd/dvd burning apps similar to windows nero?
[04:24] <s_spiff> anyone has installed KDE on their Ubuntu?
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> KDE has 1
[04:24] <s_spiff>  last time i did it, the whole look and feel of GNOMe changed!
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> dunno how
[04:24] <ChrisC> goldplatedpentiu: and don't settle for a script-based install, do it via synaptic; forum will have threads discussing this
[04:25] <s_spiff>  the very menu items, the cons became larger!
[04:25] <JoeBlow> gaz, GnomeBaker is really basic, but pretty cool
[04:25] <goldplatedpentiu> ChrisC: cool
[04:25] <brenner> s_spiff: how'd you install it?
[04:25] <ChrisC> is vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)
[04:25] <gaz> JoeBlow, does it do everything ya need it too?
[04:25] <s_spiff> synaptic.
[04:25] <brenner> ChrisC: no vnc apps are installed by default afaik
[04:25] <Xoritor> how well does ubuntu handle the x86_64 issues?
[04:26] <Riwers> anyone here tried the os Zeta ?
[04:26] <s_spiff>  i just installed the KDE metapackage ..thats what the forums called it
[04:26] <JoeBlow> gaz, for me, it burns basics
[04:26] <Xoritor> Riwers, isnt that BeOS renamed?
[04:26] <Riwers> yes it is
[04:26] <s_spiff> what BeOS?
[04:26] <s_spiff>  another linux distro?
[04:26] <Xoritor> I tried BeOS long ago but not lately
[04:26] <Xoritor> no
[04:26] <goldplatedpentiu> !!!!! Im trying 2 install updates
[04:26] <ubotu> goldplatedpentiu: Are you smoking crack?
[04:26] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, a dead os
[04:26] <ChrisC> xvncviewer is installed ...
[04:27] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> and it sayes a macillous client may b evesdropping
[04:27] <Xoritor> BeOS is was a completely different thing
[04:27] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, the resurrection isn't going very well
[04:27] <bubblenut> Blissex:I've just run fsck but I'm not sure what it's trying to tell me
[04:27] <Xoritor> Riwers, ever tried AtheOS