[00:00] <ibou> How know the version of the flac and metaflac installed on my system ?
[00:00] <ere4si> narain: if you do it with a .gtk-2.0 file in you're /home dir then it will be ok
[00:00] <starscalling> dpkg -l packagename
[00:00] <Ward1983> clearzen, sure thanx for looking into it
[00:00] <Dr_willis> narain,  'hacking' what exactly? You can find the source and recode whatever ya want. No hacking needed. :)
[00:00] <ArthurArchnix> ibou: aptitude show flac metaflac | grep Version
[00:00] <clearzen> Ward1983: goto applications>>accessories>>terminal
[00:01] <antz123> hi, I'm a little new to ubuntu so if you could bear with me, if I am to install Vista SP1 (I have dual boot), will that stop the grub bootloader from working?
[00:01] <Ward1983> clearzen, done
[00:01] <narain> ere4si: what does that do? (it's hard to google)
[00:01] <narain> Dr_willis: yes, i want to modify the source and recompile
[00:01] <narain> but will that break upgrades etc?
[00:01] <ArthurArchnix> antz123: Is vista and ubuntu already installed?
[00:01] <amenado> what tools there are on ubuntu for tutoring a high school kid with interactivity? other than giving the child a vnc access to your desktop?
[00:01] <narain> or will it get overwritten?
[00:01] <clearzen> Ward1983: sudo mkdir /media/mount/ && sudo mount -o loop /dev/dvd /media/mount
[00:01] <antz123> yes there are both installed
[00:01] <ibou> thanks
[00:02] <M4rotku> has any1 gotten Runescape to work on ubuntu?
[00:02] <clearzen> Ward1983: that should work
[00:02] <ere4si> narain: lets you set diff aspects of the desktop, panels,menus etc and will override any theme settings
[00:02] <LjL> amenado, not sure i've understood what you're after tbh
[00:02] <Ward1983> clearzen, i have 2 drives lol
[00:02] <ArthurArchnix> antz123: Most likely not. But Vista SP1 is still new and I haven't seen or heard much of ubuntu users upgrading.
[00:02] <ArthurArchnix> antz123: I want to do that myself though... has it been released through microsoft update yet?
[00:02] <Ward1983> clearzen, one didnt work will try the other now
[00:02] <Dr_willis> Im waiting for Ubuntu Service Pack 1
[00:03] <Jberg88> lol
[00:03] <antz123> ArtherArchnix: yes it was released today by microsoft
[00:03] <clearzen> Ward1983: which drive is it in? it's prob /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2
[00:03] <alexman> anyone here use macmenu-applet?
[00:03] <amenado> LjL some app that me and a highschool kid can use if I tutor him online, some interactive colloboration, lets say you show him steps to solve a quaratic equation
[00:03] <Dr_willis> M4rotku,  thats the Java based MMORPG that runs in a browser?
[00:03] <Ward1983> clearzen, erm... those should be my harddisks...
[00:03]  * ArthurArchnix considers rebooting to see what kind of damage microsoft can do for him today
[00:03] <narain> ere4si: ah, i see. i don't suppose it would let me do things i'd expect to have to do by changing the source of gnome-panel itself?
[00:04] <alexman> can anyone help me get macmenu-applet?
[00:04] <M4rotku> Dr, yes, that's the one
[00:04] <clearzen> ward1983 what does mount command output. Put it in pastebin
[00:04] <Ward1983> clearzen, no medium found
[00:04] <antz123> ArtherArchnix: I won't install it for the moment, I will wait a bit until I'm sure it will be okay, I cannot afford to lose any files
[00:04] <clearzen> Ward1983: but you can see it on your mac?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> M4rotku,  i rember someone asking a few weeks ago, and it worked for me.. for the 10 min. i played it.
[00:04] <ere4si> narain: I know you can change the panel colour using it - what do you want to do?
[00:05] <Ward1983> clearzen, yes the files are on there for sure, i dont own a mac, its burned by a friend, i dont have access to a mac
[00:05] <DrIP> liniuz1
[00:05] <M4rotku> Dr, it's saying: Runescape was unable to find a suitable place to store its temporary files. To solve this please either:
[00:05] <njenkins> Thanks for the help all I asked about. I appreciate it. Now it's study time
[00:05] <Ward1983> clearzen, macs royally s*ck imo
[00:05] <DrIP> er wrong chan
[00:05] <clearzen> Ward1983: well, if it is telling you that I would suspect it is a failed burn
[00:06] <Ward1983> clearzen, but he can open it lol, on 2 macs even, a modern core2duop and his old ppc
[00:06] <clearzen> Ward1983: what kind of file is it?
[00:06] <clearzen> Ward1983: .iso or just data?
[00:06] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  he may of used the HFS or HFS+ filesystem on the disk
[00:07] <Ward1983> clearzen, video, probably dv or avi, it should be jsut data, its meant as a backup
[00:07] <Ward1983> just a data backup
[00:07] <clearzen> Ward1983: one sec
[00:07] <narain> ere4si, Dr_willis: what i actually want to do is hack the gnome clock to make it show "fuzzy time" like the kde clock can. i don't see any way to do it other than hacking the source code. the only thing i'm concerned about is doing it in a way that's compatible with the apt package system, so that apt doesn't get confused by a changed binary and/or overwrite my changes.
[00:07] <Ward1983> (hes a VJ, me too, i got some of his content on DVDs to work with)
[00:07] <Ward1983> clearzen, sure
[00:08] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, sorry didnt read your sentence untill now
[00:08] <ere4si> narain: there are diff clock apps in synaptic
[00:08] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, any packages i can install that can handle HFS ?
[00:08] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  Now im not sure how to TELL if he did that or not. there are hfs tools  you can use.
[00:08] <gaucho> Does qemu work if my guest operational system be ubuntu amd64?
[00:08] <gaucho> my host is amd64 too
[00:08] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  I avoide macs like the plague. :0
[00:09] <gaucho> and what about if my host is a i386 machine?
[00:09] <Jberg88> oh come on
[00:09] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, me too, but some people think macs are better for some reason
[00:09] <Jberg88> macs are great
[00:09]  * Ward1983 pukes
[00:09] <Absinthe> they're ok
[00:09] <Jberg88> me
[00:09] <Absinthe> whats wrong with them?
[00:09] <clearzen> Ward1983: sudo mkdir /media/mount/ && sudo mount -o loop -t udf /dev/dvd /media/mount <--try that
[00:09]  * Ward1983 pukes again, twice as much
[00:09] <Ward1983> clearzen, ok
[00:10] <Absinthe> i bet youve never used one
[00:10] <Jberg88> See I don't bash on any OS
[00:10] <Ward1983> clearzen, no medium found, but it doesnt even look, it tells that in no time
[00:10] <DrIP> hi all, i just installed bittorent and it's not showing up in my menu...
[00:10] <Jberg88> I use them all
[00:10] <narain> ere4si: i don't think any of them does what i want
[00:11] <Ward1983> clearzen, how can i list my DVD drives so i know what they are in /dev ?
[00:11] <Jberg88> the beauty is you can make your own
[00:11] <clearzen> mount
[00:11] <minimec> DrIP: alt+f2 alacarte <-- Menu Editor
[00:11] <clearzen> or open /etc/fstab
[00:11] <clearzen> Mendi is still having sites blocked that she unchecked. Please go over her account and have the proper filters set for her account
[00:11] <DrIP> minimec: ahh thank you
[00:11] <clearzen> sorry
[00:12] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  it should be /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom  at least the links to those should be,
[00:12] <kris_ph> I want to remove django..I installed  it via apt-get.. is this the way to do it? sudo-apt remove --purge django?
[00:12] <poseidon> How can I install ubuntu 7.10 alongside windows
[00:12] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, i installed HFSplus but no success
[00:13] <smallfry> does avidemux convert only avi files or does it convert any other files as well?
[00:13] <narain> kris_ph: sudo apt-get remove django
[00:13] <clearzen> Ward1983: if that doesn't work editing fstab to include udf option and auto after the mountpoint then a restart would be my only suggestion
[00:13] <minimec> !dualboot > poseidon
[00:13] <kris_ph> narain: I want to remove  all of its traces.. like configurations..
[00:13] <Ward1983> clearzen, thats too much lol, thats for tomorrow :)
[00:14] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  perhaps you need to read/use it properly just not install it.
[00:14] <awmcclain> Hi all. What commands to I need to combine in order to make useradd behave like adduser?
[00:14] <Kumool> minimec, where do u write that?
[00:14] <clearzen> Ward1983: I understand
[00:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !install | poseidon,
[00:14] <ubotu> poseidon,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:14] <minimec> Kumool: sorry?
[00:14] <Ward1983> clearzen, its 1.14 in the morning and i have a course tomorrow, and didnt sleep tonoght
[00:14] <Kumool> minimec, !dualboot?
[00:15]  * Ward1983 feels like an addict
[00:15] <Ward1983> time to roll a smoke :)
[00:15] <Kumool> u write it in the terminal on the live cd?
[00:15] <clearzen> Ward1983: it's because he burned it with software that uses udf I think
[00:15] <Ward1983> clearzen, in the end its because hes stupid and shouldnt be allowed near a computer :)
[00:16] <narain> kris_ph: then yes, 'sudo apt-get remove --purge django' should do it
[00:16] <smallfry> does avidemux convert only avi files or does it convert any other files as well?
[00:16] <Ward1983> clearzen, but ill remember it, so i can explain my problem better tomorrow
[00:16] <Ward1983> thanx
[00:16] <Kumool> minimec u write it in the terminal on the live cd?
[00:17] <minimec> Kumool: Well... I am talking to the bot. Example type /msg ubotu usb in your chat window. The 'bot' will send you some hints for USB. If you want to tell me that you type !usb > minimec
[00:17] <narain> kris_ph: or actually just 'sudo apt-get purge django'
[00:17] <ere4si> narain: just been reading - seems like you will have to do some c++ coding to get that
[00:17] <minimec> Kumool: I don't see your question ...
[00:18] <Kumool> nvm
[00:18] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, lol i forgot to mention something funny: i bought my current system second hand, very, very, very cheap from someone who was gonna buy a mac instead with about half the specs of this machine
[00:19] <stevendemorez> so where would one find necessary v4l2 headers for their particular kernel?
[00:19] <narain> ere4si: i know, i can do that. what i want to know is that when i do recompile my modified version and replace the original gnome-panel with my version, will it confuse apt when for example an update to gnome-panel comes out
[00:20] <ere4si> narain: if the update has a new gnome panel - it will replace the old and overwrite you're work
[00:20] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  i find mac users are 'single taskers' they want a machine that runs the ONE program they want.. and thats it.  Linux users are 'generalists' who want stuff that can do it all... :)
[00:21] <jerbear> i have a class where a lot of the methods are doing a similar thing... namely: os.chdir(...); try:... finally: os.chdir(...)... i really only need the stuff within the try block. what are my options for simplifying this a bit?
[00:21] <soneil> Dr_willis, that'd be why I'm sitting here trying to get ubuntu+xen+macos going on an apple?  Generalizations never work out well ;)
[00:22] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, still its stupid to sell hardware twice as good and get some crap instead
[00:22] <jerbear> it would be nice to have a single method that does the os.chdir(), try/except stuff
[00:22] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, luckily for me though :D
[00:23] <bj0ng0> hi, i installed ubuntu 7.10 server 5sec ago, and when i run lshw it outputs that CPU 1: Disabled :|
[00:23] <icesword> hello,anyone has a look at this,http://pastebin.com/m249ac4ff,thx
[00:23] <bj0ng0> but it shows CPU info..hmmm
[00:23] <narain> ere4si: and i suppose there no nice way to handle that except to keep re-merging my changes with every update? i don't mind too much; i imagine what i'm trying to do is not a very common use case.
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Ward1983,  thers often a 100% markup on 'apple' hardware..    but i wont go on an apple rant.
[00:24] <icesword> ere4si, hello
[00:24] <pickles46> test
[00:24] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, clearzen thanx for the help, much appreciated, goodnight
[00:25] <Ward1983> Dr_willis, apple just sells hardware way too expensive, anyway goodnight
[00:25] <ere4si> narain: you can just add it to panels as an app from you're home folder - I do that with diif stuff I wrote
[00:25] <icesword> hello,anyone has a look at this,http://pastebin.com/m249ac4ff,thx
[00:25] <ere4si> hi icesword :)
[00:25] <smallfry> i hate my fuckin pc
[00:26] <Kumool> icesword, ... u kinda need to separate the link so that one can click on it
[00:26] <minimec> smallfry: Tomorrow is another day ... ;)
[00:26] <icesword> ok
[00:26] <Kumool> u kno like http://??? instead ofhttp://???
[00:26] <smallfry> ya totally minimec
[00:26] <icesword> http://pastebin.com/m249ac4ff
[00:26] <darksky0> what should I type in kernel to change file permissions?
[00:27] <Kumool> what the hell! why does smallfry get to say badwords and i get banned from saying wtf i mean i dont get it...
[00:27] <darksky0> I tried chmod ^^''
[00:27] <AlexHoover> Uh
[00:27] <narain> ere4si: ah that sounds like the perfect idea. why didn't i think of that?? :)
[00:27] <AlexHoover> For example, sudo chmod 777 /*
[00:27] <narain> ere4si: thanks!
[00:27] <ere4si> narain: np :)
[00:27] <darksky0> AlexHoover sudo chmod 777 filename?
[00:27] <AlexHoover> Yeah
[00:27] <smallfry> i dont know kumool i havent gotten a paragraph yet saying this is a swear safe chat
[00:28] <darksky0> AlexHoover i'm too newbie to do thing right :|
[00:28] <darksky0> AlexHoover cheers
[00:28] <RoAkSoAx> !webam > Burzredion
[00:28] <shawn__> okay i just updated mt ati drivers to the best ones
[00:28] <RoAkSoAx> !webcam > Burzredion
[00:28] <shawn__> can someone help me my css still isnt work
[00:28] <shawn__> working
[00:28] <Kumool> well it seems so but #Ubuntu-ES i got banned from sayin wtf... and it isnt even spanish so i just dont get it...
[00:28] <ere4si> icesword: looks like you need to increase the cache by that error
[00:28] <AlexHoover> This may be odd- but I installed Ubuntu 7 on a Dell PC, and I deleted my original SATA partition, and made 2 primaries (1 swap, 1 ext3) and Ubuntu installed fine and whatnot- however, I have to manually select the harddrive as the boot device every time I bootup. Why is this
[00:29] <WildChild7> hello there
[00:29] <icesword> ere4si, hmm.
[00:29] <WildChild7> how can I flush dns ?
[00:29] <shawn__> now my steam is crashing
[00:29] <WildChild7> anyone know how can I flush dns ?
[00:29] <ere4si> icesword: tells you to click the "other " tab
[00:30] <icesword> ere4si, thx
[00:30] <ere4si> k
[00:30] <Kumool> is there a way one can add other appz into the xfce-menu?
[00:30] <Dr_willis> AlexHoover,  perhaps the bootable flag needs to be set on one partition.
[00:31] <AlexHoover> Dr_willis: D'oh! I completely forgot about that. Thanks!
[00:32] <shawn__> how can i check to se if my 3d gl is working
[00:32] <Dr_willis> AlexHoover,  i dont recall ever needing todo that.. but it maybe some quirk with the bios
[00:32] <shawn__> in codes
[00:32] <AlexHoover> well, I manually edited the partition table so that's most likely why.
[00:32] <shawn__> anything to do with a popup window keeps crashing
[00:32] <shawn__> hello! can comebody help me
[00:33] <shawn__> somebody*
[00:33] <foibles> how do i add startup scripts to gnome?
[00:33] <foibles> so i can have certain things open when i log on
[00:34] <shawn__> hello?
[00:34] <clearzen> foibles: system>preferences>session
[00:34] <shawn__> my 3d isnt working
[00:34] <shawn__> and i just installed the new drivwers from ati
[00:34] <clearzen> foibles: then the startup tab
[00:34] <foibles> clearzen, thanks
[00:34] <foibles> quite a helpful thing to know
[00:35] <ArthurArchnix> shawn__: ype-teh, lxinfo-geh, into-eh, he-the, erminal-teh
[00:35] <ccharles`> \quit
[00:35] <kyevan_LCD> Are apt repositories still existant for 5.10?
[00:35] <ArthurArchnix> shawn__: that's how to check if 3d is working, in code.
[00:35] <kyevan_LCD> (I'm in a livecd as an emergency thing, so...)
[00:36] <nickrud> kyevan_LCD: I think the're still at old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:36] <AlexHoover> I'm still running Ubuntu 6 :$
[00:37] <RoAkSoAx> !webcam
[00:37] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:37] <jramsey> will serpentine convert mp2 into cda and rip cda?
[00:37] <jramsey> mp3
[00:38] <ronandi> anyone have an html editor that has ftp functionality that they could recommond?
[00:38] <kyevan_LCD> !mp3
[00:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:38] <Ademan> dos anyone know what the deal with envy is these days? I remember way back when it was totally unstable and borked many a machine (mine included), but I noticed ubotu's anti-envy warning has been softened up, and i've heard quite a few success stories lately, has envy become semi-accepted or what?
[00:38] <kyevan_LCD> jramsey, anything helpful there?
[00:38] <jramsey> kyevan_LCD, will check txs
[00:38] <Positronic> does anyone have any ideas on how to install a Linksys WPC11 on a command line installation of ubuntu with no internet connection?
[00:38] <ruskin> For anyone thats new to Ubuntu check out Ubuntu Ultimate 1.7, amazing Ubuntu distro with pretty much everything you would need  pre installed
[00:39] <kyevan_LCD> preinstalled /everything/?
[00:39] <Flannel> Ademan: The envy team (for envyNG, I believe), worked closely with the ubuntu devs to do stuff properly
[00:39] <kyevan_LCD> emacs, I hope, isn't. I only need one OS per partition, thanks :P
[00:39] <Flannel> kyevan_LCD, ruskin:  Ultimate Edition is a hack job, please don't recommend it here.
[00:39] <ronandi> Ademan: envy is working fine on my 8800 gts (G92) right now
[00:39] <Ademan> Flannel: awesome
[00:40] <kyevan_LCD> Flannel, I wasn't, I was just pokeing fun at him >_>
[00:40] <kyevan_LCD> And emacs
[00:40] <kyevan_LCD> (Emacs is great, but still fun to tease)
[00:40]  * Ademan coughs
[00:40] <ruskin> Hack or not it's great for getting people interested in Ubuntu
[00:40] <Flannel> kyevan_LCD: It was mostly directed at him.  And I share your os within os thinking.
[00:41] <Ademan> what was that quote? "emacs is a great operating system but its text editor sucks"
[00:41] <Ademan> lol
[00:41] <kyevan_LCD> the problem is evil hack jobs are, well, evil hack jobs
[00:41] <jc_> anyone having trouble printing to PDF? when I do nothing ends up in my pdf folder
[00:41] <kyevan_LCD> Besides, the ability to install easily is there with the apt system, anyway.
[00:42] <ArthurArchnix> you could probably get the same functionality of ultimate by installing ubuntu then running apt-get install * :P
[00:42] <yago> hi, how can I know the path of GNAT?
[00:42] <shawn__> none of those codes worked
[00:43] <ArthurArchnix> Ademan: emacs is a great operating system. The only thing it lacks is a text editor. Or something.
[00:43] <ArthurArchnix> !emacs
[00:43] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[00:43] <shawn__> arthur none of those codes worked
[00:43] <kyevan_LCD> Emacs actually does has a decent text editor!
[00:43] <shawn__> im trying to look at my open gl
[00:43] <kyevan_LCD> It's called viper-mode, and it imitates vi :P
[00:43] <Ademan> haha
[00:43] <jc_> !html
[00:43] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[00:43] <shawn__> okay anyways i gotta go to work and finish some web pages
[00:43] <shawn__> peace
[00:44] <slenentine> I have a samba share with a scans directory that receives new files from nine different users every day. I need to make sure that the files that are created in the scans directory are either world read/writable (666) or owned by a particular group (employee). What would you do? Make sure that all employees' primary group is employee (usermod -G employee user) or is there a way to set a directory to use one permission scheme(user:em
[00:44] <ArthurArchnix> shawn__: I typed glxinfo in pig-latin,you know,because you asked for the command in code... ?
[00:44] <jramsey> kyevan_LCD, looks like K3b is the winner; i'll try that txs
[00:44]  * ergyjean-baptist fighting SSFS
[00:44] <kyevan_LCD> When did nvu get renamed? Also, I liked that name... >_>
[00:44] <stevendemorez> nvu was dope
[00:45] <tonyyarusso> kyevan_LCD: When Daniel Glazman abandoned it and Fabien Cazenave began developing a fork to keep the code alive.
[00:46] <Flannel> kyevan_LCD: It actually hasnt.  Nvu sort of turned into abandonware, and kompozer was taken up as a community fork (mostly just bugfixes) at first, and then grew from that
[00:46] <Positronic> does anyone have any ideas on how to install a Linksys WPC11 on a command line installation of ubuntu with no internet connection?
[00:46] <kyevan_LCD> Oh.
[00:46] <kyevan_LCD> I never used it much, anyway.
[00:46] <kyevan_LCD> I prefer to use text editors, or a hacked-together ruby backend I wrote a while back
[00:47] <insomninja> !code
[00:47] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[00:47] <kyevan_LCD> (It spits out a bunch of nicely-formatted static pages from markdown. handy tool, horrible, horrible hack)
[00:48] <CShadowRun> hmm, i think the updater is broken or something, i just installed ubuntu for the first time and straight away went for the updates
[00:48] <smallfry> you know what sucks
[00:48] <CShadowRun> a vaccum.
[00:48] <CShadowRun> and its spewing out hundreds of parser errors
[00:49] <smallfry> i cant make fun of my bro its so hard not to
[00:49] <Ademan> CShadowRun: can you make a paste of the errors? http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[00:49] <smallfry> no
[00:50] <CShadowRun> um i would do if i could figure out how to copy it lol
[00:50] <CShadowRun> it doesn't have a right click for copy and ctrl +c doesn't appear to work :p
[00:50] <Ademan> CShadowRun: lol, :-/.  well are the errors in that little black terminal or what?
[00:50] <soldats> CShadowRun: what client
[00:50] <insomninja> select and it's copied
[00:51] <insomninja> and then use mmb to paste
[00:51] <insomninja> (middle mouse button)
[00:51] <CShadowRun> oh yea, cool
[00:51] <CShadowRun> its in the updater thingy
[00:51] <CShadowRun> "Applying changes"
[00:52] <theseus> hey -- what is the best way to run something from every shell -- add to path or symbolic link in a existing directory in path?
[00:52] <theseus> basically i want to run /bin/sh "/home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans" by typing netbeans6 at the command prompt
[00:53] <smallfry> cshacshadowrun you have to change the directory file from where it receives the updates from
[00:53] <soldats> theseus: you can make a bash alias for that i believe
[00:53] <jc_> anyone having trouble printing to PDF? when I do nothing ends up in my pdf folder
[00:53] <CShadowRun> http://rafb.net/p/Hgbz8d26.html
[00:53] <theseus> a bash alias
[00:53] <theseus> cool -- i'll look it up
[00:54] <CShadowRun> it spent a good 5 minutes putting out all that, it seems to have moved on now however
[00:54] <theseus> oh -- in my .bashrc file . . . got it
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> !hardy
[00:54] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:55] <smallfry> did u change the directory
[00:55] <theseus> which .bashrc -- i have like 10 of them!
[00:55] <theseus> /etc/bash.bashrc maybe
[00:55] <CShadowRun> nope, i litrally just installed lol
[00:55] <theseus> or /root/.bashrc
[00:55] <insomninja> theseus, ~/.banshrc
[00:55] <CShadowRun> first time, switching over from windows :p
[00:55] <insomninja> theseus, ~/.bashrc
[00:55] <insomninja> -n
[00:55] <soldats> theseus: probly youcan do it globally in /etc/*bashrc*
[00:56] <Ademan> CShadowRun: lol, rather unlucky, well, does it look like the update is going to finish anyways?
[00:56] <soldats> but yea ~/.bashrc would be best
[00:56] <CShadowRun> yea it looks like its gonna work now
[00:56] <matteo> hi all
[00:56] <insomninja> hi
[00:56] <soldats> hello
[00:56] <Ademan> CShadowRun: good, lol, hope it works out, it sorta looked like it might
[00:57] <CShadowRun> :)
[00:57] <matteo> can anyone with a p1 or p2 make me a favor?
[00:58] <theseus> do i need to escape " in bash scripts like: alias netbeans6='/bin/sh \"/home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans\"'
[00:58] <insomninja> p1/2? pentium I/II?
[00:58] <pros977> I am trying to join a channel, but freenode says I 'need to be identified.' --anyone?
[00:59] <slenentine> theseus: no
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> !register | pros977
[00:59] <ubotu> pros977: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[00:59] <theseus> and i still get command not found
[00:59] <soldats> pros977: you need to register
[00:59] <pros977> ty
[00:59] <pros977> I didn't know the pipe worked on irc
[00:59] <smallfry> cshadowrun did u figure it out?
[00:59] <theseus> slenentine: no back ticking -- so 'this is "ok"'
[00:59] <demonspork> every time I boot into ubuntu, the time sets itself an hour ahead. I change it back to what it should be in the Adjust date and time menu, but the next time I boot it resets back to one hour in the future
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> !identify | pros977 then you'll need to do this..
[00:59] <ubotu> pros977 then you'll need to do this..: You can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.
[00:59] <CShadowRun> smallfry well, the update appeared to work.
[01:00] <smallfry> ya
[01:00] <theseus> so do i need to restart bash or something to get the alias to work . . .
[01:00] <CShadowRun> i dunno what all those errors where about, but it seems to be alive still :P
[01:00] <slenentine> theseus:yes
[01:00] <soldats> theseus: i dont think so maybe "alias='/bin/sh /home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans'
[01:00] <slenentine> theseus: alias netbeans6='/bin/sh /home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans'
[01:01] <theseus> selenentine: thanks!
[01:01] <prince_jammys> that'll work, the path has no spaces. the quotes will also work
[01:01] <slenentine> np
[01:01] <smallfry> cshadowrun go to system, administration, software sources
[01:01] <ere4si> thunar is just hanging - it can't open any folder at all
[01:01] <theseus> o.k. so i have my alias -- but i can run it as sudo
[01:02] <theseus> (ah -- because my .bashrc is just for me!)
[01:02] <slenentine> roger that
[01:02] <slenentine> /root/.bashrc maybe
[01:02] <CShadowRun> smallfry yup
[01:02] <insomninja> ere4si, is it triggered by some special action or on every startup?
[01:03] <smallfry> is there a check mark beside the bottom where it says cd rom? cshadowrun
[01:03] <slenentine> theseus: or maybe alias netbeans6='sudo /bin/sh /home/tbbooher/netbeans-6.0.1/bin/netbeans'
[01:03] <ere4si> insomninja: just started playing up now
[01:03] <CShadowRun> smallfry yes
[01:03] <orudie> hey all, previousely someone here helped me in getting my static ip in ubuntu 7.10 server, how would i switch it back to dynamic ?
[01:03] <ere4si> insomninja: tryed from launcher, menu, cli
[01:04] <insomninja> ere4si, do you get any error messages when running in cli?
[01:04] <CShadowRun> Cdrom with ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" | Officially supported | Restricted copyright (ticked)
[01:04] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why my screnlets disappear when i reboot?
[01:04] <ere4si> insomninja: nope...
[01:04] <slenentine> orudie: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:04] <ere4si> insomninja: it doesn't show in top either
[01:04] <insomninja> ere4si, does the last parts of dmesg show something odd?
[01:04] <ere4si> insomninja: I'll look
[01:05] <insomninja> kindofabuzz, are you running them automatically on startup
[01:05] <smallfry> cshadowrun unclick it if its clicked if its unclicked leave it
[01:05] <insomninja> ?
[01:05] <kindofabuzz> i guess i'm not
[01:05] <CShadowRun> kk, unticked it.
[01:05] <kindofabuzz> add to startup?  what's the command?
[01:06] <jacktheripper> me very humbly breaks in and requests "fast access dsl" help. pm please
[01:06] <smallfry> cshadowrun unclick it and it will download updates from the internet when you use update manager.
[01:06] <Jberg88__> ahhhh how do i reset freenode to my username
[01:06] <minimec> kindofabuzz: verify if screenlets are loaded in your gnome-session'
[01:07] <CShadowRun> smallfry ok done, thanks :)
[01:07] <insomninja> kindofabuzz, not on gnome, right now but on the settings panel there should be a 'sessions' entry, with a tab where you can set which programs run at startup
[01:07] <smallfry> cshadowrun go back into update manager and check for anymore updates
[01:07] <ere4si> insomninja: it might be this - last line of dmesg -- nfs: server <IP_ADDRESS> not responding, still trying
[01:07] <kindofabuzz> well i just looked, the screenlets daemon is checked in startup
[01:07] <soldats> Jberg88__: /nick <yournick>
[01:07] <soldats> yay
[01:07] <Jberg88> thank YOU!
[01:07] <insomninja> ere4si, are you trying to access a network share?
[01:07] <CShadowRun> 1 new one, installed it :)
[01:07] <ere4si> insomninja: nope - just open my home folder
[01:08] <kindofabuzz> what is "sticky" in the options of each screenlet? there is locked and sticky, maybe sticky has to be checked?
[01:08] <insomninja> kindofabuzz, that's not it
[01:09] <jacktheripper> need to upgrade to fast access dsl BAD
[01:09] <jacktheripper> please help
[01:09] <insomninja> kindofabuzz, isn't there a setting for each screenlet somewhere in the screenlets window or in the screenlet properties like "run this automatically" or smt
[01:09] <kindofabuzz> looking...
[01:09] <Flannel> !pppoe | jacktheripper
[01:09] <ubotu> jacktheripper: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> kindofabuzz: i believe that makes it stick.. and any window comes up under it.
[01:09] <jacktheripper> thank you
[01:10] <kindofabuzz> yeah there is a "auto start at login"  thanks
[01:11] <insomninja> ere4si, what do you get if you run ls /etc/init.d/nfs*
[01:11] <kyevan_LCD> Everyone who worked on cfdisk ever, is a god
[01:11] <insomninja> kindofabuzz, ^^
[01:11] <jacktheripper> ubotu and flannel i am there, will research, and will thank you again later
[01:11] <ere4si> insomninja: /etc/init.d/nfs-common
[01:11] <jacktheripper> dont know why hours of googling did not reveal the page
[01:12] <tems> Hey guys.  Just finished installing Ubuntu with wubi but am getting the following error when trying to boot for the first time:  "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"  as well as that error message, another message appeared over the top of that one and continues to repeat every 30 seconds or so .  "[xxx.xxxxxx] bcm43xx: Error: Mi
[01:12] <insomninja> ere4si, just for the sake of it, try "sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-common restart" and then run thunar again
[01:12] <tems> Where xxx.xxxxx is a bunch of numbers that change each time the error is displayed
[01:12] <orudie> this is what my /etc/network/interfaces looks like for static ip, i would like to change it back to dynamic, would anyone help please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60109/
[01:13] <jacktheripper> i love ubotu the bot
[01:13] <ere4si> insomninja: just turned the server on to see if that solves the issue - one min
[01:13] <jacktheripper> he is obviously smarter than i
[01:13] <Ademan> ubotu is incredibly dumb, he just has a ton of perfect memory :-p
[01:13] <kindofabuzz> i'm still trying to figure out how my xserver justs breaks when it wants to, i can go all day without touching xorg.conf, then reboot, then it wants to start in low graphics mode, i just reinstall vid drivers and it works again
[01:14] <ere4si> insomninja: thunar needs the server on it seems - nfs mounts are in fstab
[01:14] <jacktheripper> ademan...unlike me
[01:14] <Flannel> orudie: comment all that out (the iface eth0 line to the end) and replace it with: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:14] <Jberg88> VPN keeps going down on my computer sorry
[01:15] <tems> ==/msg ubotu etiquette
[01:15] <orudie> Flannel: can you please paste it to me in ubuntu pastebin ? i'm sorry i'm new to this
[01:15] <kindofabuzz> anyone use the GnomeArt screenlet?
[01:15] <trev> so all of a suden .iso files can no longer be written to a disk with right click and now ubuntu thinks they are opened in text editor, does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:15] <slenentine> orudie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60110/
[01:15] <minimec> kindofabuzz: I guess it's more a keyboard/mouse problem. Do you have any USB devices (mouse/keyboard)?
[01:15] <insomninja> ere4si, unmount the nfs shares before turning off the server
[01:15] <jacktheripper> tems ?
[01:15] <ekaj> umm..im currently using a windows versiom, and have a ubuntu os id like to put on..if i downloaded ubuntu would it work along with ms as a dual-os
[01:16] <kindofabuzz> minimec: yeah usb mouse
[01:16] <ere4si> insomninja: I'll remove the entries from fstab and manually mount I think...
[01:16] <Flannel> orudie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60111/
[01:16] <tems> sorry - typo
[01:16] <trev> nevermind it only did it to that one file
[01:16] <insomninja> ere4si, I've had similar problems but where a flaky network connection were the fault
[01:16] <insomninja> ere4si, good idea
[01:16] <insomninja> you can always put it in a script
[01:16] <Positronic> Are there any real-world benefits of Reiser4 over ext3?
[01:16] <minimec> kindofabuzz: are you running the mouse with the 'evdev' driver or with the 'mouse' driver?
[01:17] <ere4si> insomninja: evidently there is a way to set a timeout for nfs
[01:17]  * insomninja wishes he'd known about that
[01:17] <kindofabuzz>    dev/input mice
[01:17] <aks_> hello
[01:18] <insomninja> hi
[01:18] <aks_> I"m getting problems with uswsusp
[01:18] <aks_> hibernate works but machine hangs soon after it comes out of suspend mode
[01:18] <Ownatik> Hi, I installed Ubuntu, rebooted, but I don't get the grub menu to choose if I want to boot XP or ubuntu, it only boots XP automatically, I didn't uncheck the "install bootloader" option in the installer. What's wrong?
[01:18] <ekaj> i have windows..can i use ubuntu as a 2nd OS without installing any other programs besides ubuntu?
[01:19] <aks_> ekaj: you could even try it using the liveCD
[01:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive been testing out various live cd's this week. and ONE of them had a stand-alone flash player from adobe, which was handy. But i cant seem to find it in any other disrtos/flash  anyone know was it part of the flash installs or a stand alone app?
[01:19] <hendrixski> Hey, how can I transfer files from one Ubuntu computer to another if there is no internet connection?  I can bring a router and cable with me but there might not be internet :-/
[01:19] <ekaj> aks: ram isnt very plentiful on my comp =p
[01:19] <minimec> kindofabuzz: I need the driver... not the
[01:19] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  if both have gigabit network cards you can plug in any network cable.
[01:19] <[agatha]> ekaj, you can you can i do it with 512 ram... you only can use an os at a time :)
[01:19] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  assign static ips to both. and then copy things over your micro-lan :)
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> minimec: oh i don't know the actaul driver
[01:20] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  if no gigibit networking. a router and cable would be handier.
[01:20] <ekaj> couldnt i get a dual os, where i choose which i want to use?
[01:20] <hendrixski> Dr_willis, that sounds complicated.  Is there a manual you could point me to?
[01:20] <CJS3141> Is it true Internet Explorer 7 doesn't work with Wine?
[01:20] <clearzen> hendrixski: crossover cable
[01:20] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  complex? plug in a cable.. assign static ip.. use whatever tools you want
[01:20] <Ademan> CJS3141: check wine's appdb
[01:20] <Dr_willis> complex would be gettting wireless going. :)
[01:20] <kindofabuzz> CJS3141: why the hell would you wanna do that??
[01:20] <newyorkerjj35> i have just installed kiba dock, how do i make it so it runson startup??
[01:20] <[agatha]> ekaj, if you install ubuntu an want to keep windows, its possible, it will install a boot loader *(grub) and you can choose which one on startup
[01:20] <tems> Is there a rule on how long you have to wait before re-asking a question?
[01:21] <Ademan> CJS3141: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:21] <CJS3141> kindofabuzz: I know, I'm no MS fan, but some websites require IE to view.
[01:21] <ekaj> ok, thanks =]
[01:21] <hendrixski> Dr_willis, yeah, I'm bringing a router and cable.  but I'm trying this at home, and it's not recognizing the router as a valid connection if there's no internets on it :-(
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> i don't get why someone would want IE on there linux box.  or hell, even there windows box
[01:21] <Ademan> tems: just use your own judgement, most people won't care unless it's less than 3 minutes apart or something, i dunno
[01:21] <[agatha]> no worries ekaj  :) just before installing backup everything important.. in case there's any problem ;)
[01:21] <Flannel> tems: Usually about 15-30 minutes is a good bet.  You've gotta give it enough time for new peoople to wake up, etc.
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> firefox ftw!
[01:22] <ekaj> ok :)
[01:22] <orudie> Flannel: ok modified by your example, how can i apply changes now ?
[01:22] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  be sure you got the pc's pluged in the the lan conectors not the wan one.
[01:22] <Ownatik> Hi, I installed Ubuntu, rebooted, but I don't get the grub menu to choose if I want to boot XP or ubuntu, it only boots XP automatically, I didn't uncheck the "install bootloader" option in the installer. What's wrong?
[01:22] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  and be sure you got dhcp enabled on the router
[01:22] <tems> Hey guys.  Just finished installing Ubuntu with wubi but am getting the following error when trying to boot for the first time:  "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"  as well as that error message, another message appeared over the top of that one and continues to repeat every 30 seconds or so .  "[xxx.xxxxxx] bcm43xx: Error: Mi
[01:22] <kindofabuzz> lol sounds like you deleted your xp partition?
[01:22] <Flannel> orudie: restart networking.  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:22] <m1r> evening all
[01:22] <tems> hi m1r
[01:23] <m1r> what is latest version of 8.04 to download ?
[01:23] <m1r> hi tems
[01:23] <pros977> the bcm43xx is your broadcom wireless. Sounds like a laptop
[01:23] <kindofabuzz> alpha 6?
[01:23] <Ademan> CJS3141: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4195   looks like it doesn't work, but the latest test (the one i just sent you) is several versions old, that may have changed
[01:23] <Jordan_U> tems, What Graphics card do you have?
[01:23] <kindofabuzz> i think beta1 comes out this week
[01:23] <tems> that's correct pros!
[01:23] <CJS3141> Ownatik: I had a similar problem and had to modify the grub boot file to make things work
[01:23] <pros977> tems ditto Jordan's question
[01:23] <CJS3141> Ademan: Thanks!
[01:23] <minimec> kindofabuzz: Well.. If you never touched your /etc/X11/xorg.xonf after the install, you will use the 'mouse' driver. The 'evdev' driver is for devices with extra buttons and the xserver sometimes sometimes has some problems with usb devices, if you don't indicate the exact usb adress of the device.
[01:23] <hendrixski> Dr_willis, yup, they're both plugged in... now static IP... what tool would you recommend for this?
[01:23] <m1r> tbx kindofabuzz
[01:23] <tems> Can I check from the command prompt, Jordan or do I need to reboot windows?  I can alt-f2 to get to linux prompt
[01:24] <kindofabuzz> minimec: i use the mouse driver with all buttons working.
[01:24] <pros977> tems try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:24] <pros977> tems sudo that command rather
[01:24] <kindofabuzz> tems: ctrl-alt-f2
[01:25] <jin> does Ubuntu use the two cores of a C2D effectively?
[01:25] <kindofabuzz> or tems do a ls in your /etc/X11 and see if you have a xorg.conf.backup
[01:25] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  depends on what you like. ssh and scp are handy. :) but  theres proberly 6+ ways to do it.
[01:25] <Jordan_U> tems, If you are going to reconfigure X as others have suggested you probably want to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" since it won't ask you any questions
[01:25] <tems> sorry - trying to figure this out
[01:25] <tems> as I can't login as root
[01:25] <minimec> kindofabuzz: My Logiteech G5 is a typical 'evdev' mouse, if you want all the functions...
[01:25] <tems> just the account I set up with wubi
[01:25] <kindofabuzz> if so, do a sudo cp /etc/Z11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <kindofabuzz> X*
[01:26] <pros977> tems type sudo passwd
[01:26] <Dr_willis> hendrixski,  see if they can ping each other. if so - you are ready to install whatever services you want/tools to transfer stuff.
[01:26] <pros977> tems that will allow you to set a root password
[01:26] <hendrixski> Dr_willis, thanks.  I'll give that a try
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[01:26] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[01:26] <kindofabuzz> minimec:  all i need is my back and forth buttons, and they work
[01:26] <aks_> does anyone have any experience tweaking hibernate/sleep utilities in ubuntu?
[01:26] <Jordan_U> pros977, Please do not suggest that
[01:26] <insomninja> jin, if you mean if it spreads processes on both, then yes, if you mean compared to XYZ, then dunno
[01:27] <pros977> Sorry about the root advice. I use root all the time. By bad.
[01:27] <hendrixski> pros977, that makes you a bad person
[01:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:27] <[agatha]> tems,  im not sure an im not sure at all, but i think your account password is the one you have to enter when sudo asks you for one... still im not sure im not sure
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Im so used to using different disrtos. i normally set up su, sux, and sudo on them all.
[01:27] <kindofabuzz> has anyone ever noticed things that take sudo don't always ask for your password?
[01:27] <pros977> hendrixski I hate sudo with a passion
[01:27]  * tems is very confused now :) Lemme try and catch up so sorry if it takes me a min to reply
[01:27] <Dr_willis> kindofabuzz,  it 'caches' the password for like a min or 2. so if you do 2 sudo commands in a row. the 2nd one dosent ask
[01:28] <Ademan> kindofabuzz: sudo "remembers" your password for 5 minutes
[01:28] <CokeNCode> hey guys, i wanna do a printscreen, need a program that i can apt-get install quickly
[01:28] <CokeNCode> that'll do the job
[01:28] <Jordan_U> kindofabuzz, The timeout for sudo is configurable
[01:28] <kindofabuzz> like i can open synaptic and put in password..log out..open again and it doesn't ask for password
[01:28] <soldats> aks_: i know a way to make it sleep at the appropriate time but i have no experience with thte hibernation as i never or ever will use it.
[01:28] <Ademan> ah, maybe 2 minutes, i've never checked myself lol
[01:28] <Dr_willis> !printscreen
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <insomninja> CokeNCode, scrot
[01:28] <kindofabuzz> oh it is jordan?
[01:28] <Lagg> Does anyone have experience with Shoes for ruby ?
[01:28] <kindofabuzz> how you change that?
[01:28] <hendrixski> pros977, good for you, don't spread windows-noob habits to others.  Keep root where it belongs... on the server admin's emergency-only toolkit
[01:28] <Dr_willis> CokeNCode,  gimp can do it also.
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz, It holds it for like 10 minutes
[01:28] <aks_> soldats: any particular reason to stay away from it?
[01:28] <CokeNCode> thanks insomninja
[01:28] <eldereko> can someone help me with a NetworkManager issue, I installed a vpn connection but its not showing the connection on the NetworkManager applet, even after restarting it... anyone know what's goin on??
[01:29] <hendrixski> anyway... I'm gonna try this non-internet router transfer thing... so.. later
[01:29] <pros977> hendrixski Agrred
[01:29]  * hendrixski leaves
[01:29] <minimec> kindofabuzz: Have you ever checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after a failed xserver start?
[01:29] <kindofabuzz> no, still a newb
[01:29] <CokeNCode> hmmm, a command line screen capture program
[01:29] <CokeNCode> interesting
[01:30] <soldats> aks_: i always hear it doesnt work properly for hibernation, also from experience the basic gui it has is a little retarded. i use xorg.conf to set sleep time, but doing that will make it only sleep after a set time no matter what unless you explicitly tell it to sleep
[01:30] <minimec> kindofabuzz: that would give us some info about your problem. Check your /var/log a little bit. Lots of interesting things in it ;)
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz, Sorry   15    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:30] <kindofabuzz> cool thanks
[01:30] <kindofabuzz> thanks jack
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:31] <Ademan> Jack_Sparrow: wow that long?
[01:31] <kindofabuzz> ok what is gksudo?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ademan, I thought it was shorter, but that page says 15
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[01:31] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:32] <insomninja> = gksudo for gui programs, sudo for terminal
[01:32] <kindofabuzz> oh so i should always gksudo gedit instead of sudo gedit?
[01:32] <soldats> CokeNCode: you can install "scrot" for screen shots its cli based but very easy to use and versatile
[01:32] <soldats> and small
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz, yes
[01:32] <yanger> is there a graphical flowchart program avaliable for use under gnome/ubuntu?
[01:32] <Pawbie> yanger: Check synaptic for UML.
[01:33] <tems> OK - I'm logged into root now.  There is no xorg.conf.backup in /etc/X11
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> how can i set file roller to open sudo everytime?
[01:33] <yanger> UMl/
[01:33] <yanger> er UML?
[01:33] <Pawbie> yanger: You're looking for something comparable to Visio, right?
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> tems: anything with a date?
[01:33] <Ademan> kindofabuzz: i don't think you can, why would you need that anyways?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[01:33] <yanger> Pawbie yep
[01:33] <tems> sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg: command not found
[01:33] <kindofabuzz> ademan: like if i wanna extract something into a folder my user doesn't have rights to
[01:34] <jayar> I have H2 Cobra Webcamera here and I am having problem in connecting it to my ubuntu box... can someone here tell me which driver to use with this device? thanks in advance
[01:34] <Pawbie> yanger: Yea, I can't remember the name of the package, but it'll show up if you search Synaptic for UML
[01:34] <yanger> any simpler is better..
[01:34] <Jordan_U> tems, You need a space instead of a '-' after ...reconfigure
[01:34] <pros977> Alright, I'm hoping I don't get flamed too hard here, but I'm going to throw this out there. I log in as root using Gnome, and I have since my Slackware days almost a decade ago now. Who can persuade me to change?
[01:34] <soldats> tems: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:34] <Jordan_U> tems, so the command is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[01:34] <Pawbie> pros977: Ya, and so do all the XP users, and Mac's still believe there's no malware for their platform.  Who cares? ;)
[01:35] <pros977> --Computer shuts down and formats itself based on a remote exploit over irc.
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz, Probably not the best choice...to do that all the time.. it will only lead to needing sudo or gksudo even more
[01:35] <yanger> ahh..
[01:35] <yanger> DIA Diagram
[01:35] <yanger> thanks!
[01:35] <yanger> i knew it existed.. just didn't know the name
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> pros977, That belongs in offtopic as it is not a support question
[01:35] <Jordan_U> yanger, There are others as well
[01:35] <kindofabuzz> jack, well i guess i could stick to sudo tar
[01:36] <Pawbie> yanger: There's a ton more.
[01:36] <pros977> Jack_Sparrow Different channel?
[01:36] <yanger> oh :X
[01:36] <soldats> !ot > pros977
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> pros977, YEs, this is support, that is discussion.
[01:36] <pros977> Pawbie So, what you're saying is that if everyone used root, more exploits would be developed and Linux as a whole would be less safe?
[01:36] <yanger> any that you guys would prefer? just want to use it to create flowcharts
[01:36] <CokeNCode> thanks soldats, worked like a charm
[01:36] <pros977> !ot
[01:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:36] <soldats> CokeNCode: np good luck
[01:37] <pros977> Jack_Sparrow Noted. TY
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:37] <Jordan_U> yanger, I have heard good things about kivio but never used it myself
[01:37] <Pawbie> pros977: Uh, no?  If you read some of the trends, Linux is actually the number 1 exploited plat for services.  More Apache sites get pounded than IIS.
[01:38] <tems> OK - that opened up a configuration menu.  I try to autodetect and it says "No X Server known for your video hardware.  There is either no video hardware installed on this machine (e.g serial console only) or the discover program was unable to determine which X Server is appropriate for the video hardware.  This could be due to incomplete information in discover's hardware database, or because your video hardware is not supported by the available X servers
[01:38] <soldats> tems: the vesa driver should work
[01:38] <tems> also - that error message continues to appear every minute or so saying the same thing and obscuring the screen
[01:38] <yanger> Jordan_U trying to stay away from multiple DEs
[01:38] <yanger> :)
[01:39] <snypzz_> still trying to get the movie player and vlm to play dvd's
[01:39] <tems> forgive any idiocy on my part.  nearly a complete linux virgin.   Is the vesa driver something I need to download?
[01:39] <ere4si> insomninja: just needed to add "soft" in the fstab entry :)
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[01:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:39] <Itaku> how can i make mp3's playable on my apache2 webserver?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tems, no vesa should not need to be downloaded
[01:40] <insomninja> ere4si, ty
[01:40] <Jordan_U> tems, No, its the least common denominator driver, it is already installed but may not be selected to be used
[01:40] <soldats> tems: vesa is normally the integrated video driver support. try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[01:40] <Jordan_U> tems, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> tems, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max rex.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[01:41] <orudie> Flannel: it worked, thanx a lot, but now my domain doesnt point to my server
[01:41] <tems> Ah - OK.  I select VESA but it's asking for the identifier for the video card.  I'm using the version that is installed with Wubi.  I will try that lates command
[01:42] <Flannel> orudie: Your router doesn't forward to the right IP.  Because now you're using a dynamically assigned one.  you'll need to update it to your new internal IP.
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tems, fyi.. wubi is something I would avoid.. with extreme prejudice (sp)
[01:42] <Svenstaro_> Hey there, quick question, does Ubuntu use /etc/skel for the live session?
[01:43] <orudie> Flannel: i took my ubunto box outside my router
[01:43] <Flannel> Svenstaro_: No
[01:43] <Jordan_U> Svenstaro_, I wouldn't expect it too, why?
[01:43] <Svenstaro_> Flannel, so what does it use to generate the live user home?
[01:43] <Flannel> Svenstaro_: I believe its hardcoded.
[01:43] <tems> I used wubi as I had trouble with the installer not working for me :(  just had to reboot but will try that latest command now
[01:44] <Svenstaro_> Flannel, I want to build my own little distro and want to put some files into it
[01:44] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[01:44] <Svenstaro_> Flannel, that would suck :(
[01:44] <Jordan_U> tems, What version though, 7.10?
[01:44] <Flannel> Svenstaro_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tems, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[01:44] <ionstorm> im getting a crzy install error http://pastebin.ca/948351 for wxpython, anyone know how to resolve this? looks like a dep issue
[01:44] <Pasha> I need some help with Grub and it being quite ghey
[01:44] <Svenstaro_> Flannel, thanks I'll have a look at that
[01:44] <Flannel> orudie: Then you'll need to update your DNS to point to your server.
[01:44] <tems> I can't check right now as I'm not in windows where I downloaded it.  Unless there's a root command?
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tems, lsb_release -a
[01:45] <prettyricky> how goes one install a new splashscreen? I already have the splashscreen manager installed
[01:45] <orudie> Flannel: i think i have ddclient installed
[01:45] <Jordan_U> tems, lsb_release -a
[01:45] <leo_rockw> i'm in the same workgroup as a win comp in my network. I can see the other comp, but when i navigate it none of the shared folders show up, what could be the reason? (the window$ comp has no firewall)
[01:45] <orudie> Flannel: do i have to make changes to ddclient ?
[01:46] <leo_rockw> after a while i get a "waiting time has expired on the server" or smth like that
[01:46] <SeaPhor> ok, maybe i'm in the wrong place, after watching some of the questions,,, I'm a TOTAL n00b. and my problem has a lot of variables
[01:46] <leo_rockw> !smb > leo_rockw
[01:46] <Flannel> orudie: I think ddclient runs occasionally, and not automatically.
[01:46] <Flannel> orudie: Does it work if you visit your IP?
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, Pick a place to start and ask
[01:46] <fiveiron> anyone else having problems with the flash player in firefox locking up the browser only recently?
[01:47] <Pasha> not for me atm at least
[01:47] <SeaPhor> yes
[01:47] <Pasha> I have a major problem, and I'm wondering if anyone can help
[01:47] <Pasha> I have 2 80gb hard drives, when I plug in a third 160gb hard drive, I get GRUB error 17. I have an ABIT mobo that has a problem doing anything if the sata hard drives are not plugged into ports 5/6. Can anyone help?
[01:47] <soldats> fiveiron: are you running multiple sessions of flash and/or running other memory hogging apps
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | Menfest
[01:47] <ubotu> Menfest: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[01:48] <Pasha> I am on 7.10
[01:48] <orudie> Flannel: yes works by typing ip in the browser
[01:48] <insomninja> fiveiron, that is a known problem I've heard ff3 will take care of it
[01:48] <orudie> Flannel: i had it set up with zoneedit and ddclient, i t hought those servers are for when your ip changes
[01:48] <Flannel> orudie: Then its just DynDNS that needs to update.  You could try manually updating (and even then, I believe it takes a little bit of time to propogate anyway)
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Pasha, are you sure the working two are in the first two sata ports ?
[01:48] <fiveiron> insomninja: i'm running in ff3.
[01:48] <soldats> insomninja: it will for the most part but still a minor problem in ff3
[01:49] <fiveiron> i will try rebooting tho... perhaps some stray processing is hosing me up
[01:49] <Menfest> why do people help here for no reason? or benefit Jack_Sparrow
[01:49] <Dipingo> I just DLed the ISO for 7.1 and am trying to get a VMware to install it
[01:49] <Pasha> no, the working two are in the last 2 sata ports. So ports 5/6. Ports 1/2 are still available
[01:49] <fiveiron> s/processing/process
[01:49] <Itaku> how can i make mp3's playable on my apache2 webserver?
[01:49] <orudie> flannel: how can i update DynDNS
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Pasha, Adding another should not change grub unless it is "Below" the others
[01:49] <Pasha> yes, it is below.
[01:49] <twistage> Does anyone know if redirected direct rendering has been fixed for integrated intel graphics?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Menfest, Because we are just awesome like that :)
[01:49] <Pasha> SUPER GRUB does not solve this problem either
[01:49] <Dipingo> I thought I would try inhere for some help
[01:49] <soldats> manlymatt83: its rewarding to help someone, we want to boraden the horizon of ubuntu and linux
[01:49] <Cpudan80> Itaku: Thats a function of the client
[01:49] <orudie> Pasha: kakasha
[01:49] <mauro> hello
[01:49] <Pasha> rofl spasba orduie
[01:50] <orudie> Pasha: ya tozhe pasha
[01:50] <mauro> im conencting through SSH, is there a way to see whats on a TTY terminal on the host PC?
[01:50] <Cpudan80> Itaku: Apache allows MP3 downloads/streams with no mods
[01:50] <Pasha> ei ti toucha pashka kakashka
[01:50] <icesword> ,i burned a iso the other day,i used 8X ,lead it to burn failure,coz when it echoed preparing cache data,and it hanged there,so i quit,and then i use 16X to burn the same iso with another disc,i succeded,the iso looks from outside is 678m ,but in fact inside it is 1.3g.so that is thing,lol,what is the point ?what is wrong
[01:50] <leo_rockw> orudie: i believe you're looking for ddns3-client
[01:50] <Jordan_U> twistage, AFIK no, though you can use XGL :(
[01:50] <tems> ok I have opened the x configuration thing in root with the command suggested earlier - what should I be looking to change?
[01:50] <ronandi> yo dont speak un russian, you'll get muted
[01:50] <Pasha> hmm brb I have an idea
[01:50] <Flannel> orudie: You go to their website and login.  Although, you can probably invoke ddclient as wel
[01:50] <kindofabuzz> where are nautilus scripts stored?
[01:50] <mauro> !ru
[01:50] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[01:51] <kindofabuzz> !scripts
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <soulrider__> Dr_willis: good thing youre here :P maybe you know
[01:51] <twistage> Jordan_U: ahhh, okay. thanks
[01:51] <soulrider__> im conencting to a host pc with SSH, and i need to be able to see whats on a TTY console there
[01:51] <Dr_willis> i go to work in ... 6 min. :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:51] <leo_rockw> soulrider__: now, or on a general basis?
[01:51] <carol> hey whats up
[01:52] <leo_rockw> soulrider__: you could use screen...
[01:52] <tems> My version info is Ubuntu 7.04 (feisty)
[01:52] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  use screen, and you can  share a terminal. is one way
[01:52] <soulrider__> leo_rockw: im suing screen
[01:52] <Wazm> sup
[01:52] <felixhcat> hello
[01:52] <Dr_willis> screen is a MUST learn about tool. :)
[01:52] <ere4si> kindofabuzz: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php - tells you
[01:52] <soulrider__> but can i connect to screen through SSH ?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> ssh in, run screen
[01:52] <kindofabuzz> thanks
[01:52] <clearzen> soulrider__:yes
[01:52] <Jordan_U> soulrider, Yes
[01:52] <leo_rockw> soulrider__: yes, that's the beauty of screen
[01:52] <Dr_willis> ssh in from other box, reconnect screen
[01:52] <soulrider__> Dr_willis: im doing that =/
[01:52] <soulrider__> i actually want to know how to see somethign thats running on konsole
[01:53] <Dr_willis> on the local box. the guy thee could run screen and connect to the session also.
[01:53] <clearzen> soulrider__ ssh -t user@host "screen -d -r"
[01:53] <carol> anyone else having problems with the default package servers/?
[01:53] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  Konsole, is differnt from console. but screen will run under konsole or other xterms also
[01:53] <jayar> I have H2 Cobra Webcamera here and I am having problem in connecting it to my ubuntu box... can someone here tell me which driver to use with this device? thanks in advance
[01:53] <Dr_willis> run konsole, run screen, connect to screen session from other places by sshing in, and running screen with the right options.
[01:54] <twistage> Jordan_U: how stable is XGL in Gutsy? is it more of a proof of concept?
[01:54] <orudie> Flannel: any more detials please? i dont konw what to do
[01:54] <felixhcat> ?
[01:54] <Wazm> good
[01:54] <carol> is gutsy better than my edgy?
[01:54] <kindofabuzz> is there a eb for gnome 2.22 yet?
[01:54] <kindofabuzz> deb
[01:54] <soulrider__> clearzen: so if im running screen locally then ssh clients can connect to thats creens ession ?
[01:54] <soldats> carol: it has more support
[01:54] <SeaPhor> ok, have 7.10 dual with xp, having minor issues so wanted to start over, fresh new 160gb hdd, installed winxp-updated-etc, installed Ubuntu 7.10, updated, installed envy, updated Nvidia GeForce 8600GT drivers for linux, after re-boot- low graphics mode, cant get out of 640x400, started over no envy this time, same result
[01:54] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  yes. you can have several connections to the same screen session i recall.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  'twin' offers a similer feature. but its not as popular
[01:55] <soulrider__> Dr_willis: thats awesome!
[01:55] <alwrwr2003> hi
[01:55] <kindofabuzz> SeaPhor: when that happens to me i just reinstall the nvidia drivers using Envy
[01:55] <clearzen> soulrider__:yes, you can run multiple screen sessions as well. you connect through pid in that case
[01:55] <soulrider__> Dr_willis: i think im gonna start running gentoo now that i can admin it from class/work :P
[01:55] <leo_rockw> twin looks more user friendly...
[01:55] <carol> hey, you guys rock!
[01:55] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  you can admin ubuntu the same way. :)
[01:55] <soldats> SeaPhor: did you have a correct res at one point, maybe a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" will fix it
[01:55] <soulrider__> clearzen: is there some docs thate xplain all this? mind you, i have never sued ssh before
[01:56] <alwrwr2003> i want program to download file like flash get in windows
[01:56] <soldats> !envy | SeaPhor also read this
[01:56] <ubotu> SeaPhor also read this: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:56] <orudie> leo_rockw: hey there?
[01:56] <clearzen> soulrider__: man screen man ssh? you might be able to find some tuts through google
[01:56] <Flannel> orudie: Looks like this may do it: sudo /etc/init.d/ddclient restart
[01:56] <SeaPhor> yes, tried those, and sorry, told you i'm a n00b, dont know how to send back
[01:56] <leo_rockw> orudie: yes?
[01:56] <soulrider__> clearzen: ok, thanks!
[01:56] <soulrider__> thanks toy ou too Dr_willis
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> says ~.gnome/nautilus-scripts, but i don't have that nautilus dir
[01:57] <leo_rockw> i'm in the same workgroup as a win comp in my network. I can see the other comp from my lin box, but when i navigate it none of the shared folders of  the win machine show up, what could be the reason? (the window$ comp has no firewall)
[01:57] <xjkx> is anybody here very experienced with how the boot of the livecd works ? i have a not common question about its funcionality
[01:57] <clearzen> soulrider__: you can actually setup a port to listen for a connection and return a shell to you as well with ssh
[01:57] <carol> will automatrix screw up my Software Updates.  im trying to upgrade my edgy to Gutsy.  imstuck
[01:58] <ere4si> kindofabuzz: you can make it and put scripts there
[01:58] <clearzen> soulrider__: it's called a reverse connection
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> oh ok
[01:58] <ere4si> :)
[01:58] <AlgorithmicContr> Could someone help me set up VNC?
[01:58] <SeaPhor> did u read the last part,,, repeated ENTIRE process without installing envy...
[01:58] <kumarphilly> if i embeded a ajax client onto a website that connected to this chat... (looks better then all the clients out there) would anyone use it?
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> well i have some scripts already, but i guess they are somewhere else but they work
[01:58] <soldats> !automatix | carol
[01:58] <ubotu> carol: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[01:58] <SeaPhor> same result
[01:58] <soldats> carol: use the udate manager
[01:59] <soldats> err update
[01:59] <carol> i do.
[01:59] <tems> OK guys.  I ran the config for xserver-xorg as root in Feisty and chose the vesa option, resolution etc.  Went through the process and I ended up back at prompt.  Rebooted and am getting the same error message.  Any ideas?
[01:59] <carol> for some reason when i pick lets say wine and install it.  it has an apt error.  cannot contact server
[02:00] <clearzen> tems: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:00] <soldats> carol: well you should update to each newer release until you get to gusty to reduce problems otherwise backup personal info, intstall via fresh gusty cd and replace your personal info
[02:00] <yago> does anyone use Ada?
[02:00] <Flannel> carol: you can't upgrade straight from edgy to gutsy.  You need to upgrade to feisty first.
[02:00] <Flannel> !upgrade | carol
[02:00] <ubotu> carol: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:00] <clearzen> tems: and then try again
[02:01] <alwrwr2003> i want a program to download files like flashget in windows pls
[02:01] <orudie> Flannel: ddclient wasnt even runnin, it gave me this : * To run ddclient as a daemon, please set run_daemon to 'true' in /etc/default/ddclient
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:01] <carol> thats what i figured as far as the upgrade path .  when i try and get the fiesty , the servers error out so it dont download it.
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> tems sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[02:01] <leo_rockw> alwrwr2003: wget ;-)
[02:01] <xjkx> is anybody here very experienced with how the boot of the livecd works ? i have a not common question about its funcionality
[02:01] <Flannel> orudie: ah, well, in that case, you didn't actually have dd client running.  So, Edit that file, and change it to true.
[02:02] <kindofabuzz> is there a deb for gnome 2.22 yet?
[02:02] <carol> im thinking my apt=get locations are somehow changed from the default one.  or its really just down.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> carol, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[02:02] <Flannel> carol: We're willing to take a look at it.  Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <db-keen> Where would I find information about making a LiveCD with Ubuntu and a custom set of packages?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:03] <alwrwr2003> where i found it ( wget)
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !remaster
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remaster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> db-keen, there is a wiki on remastering
[02:03] <Flannel> db-keen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[02:04] <Flamekebab> I'm running Gutsy - how come it's possible to run X without a xorg.conf file?
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, thanks.. I need to call it a night...  everyone, have fun, but play nice
[02:04] <soulrider__> Flamekebab: theres always one
[02:05] <soulrider__> Flamekebab: type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:05] <carol> how do i pm someone here
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Flamekebab, Make sure you look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf   note Cap X
[02:05] <soulrider__> carol: you ahve to be registered
[02:05] <ani1>  carol  /msg nick message
[02:05] <xim> can I make it so the gnome themes dont screw up my browsers display of webpages
[02:05] <Flamekebab> Jack_Sparrow, I know where it should be. I removed it as the old one was giving me grief
[02:05] <Flannel> carol: Pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:05] <Flamekebab> and currently I've got the correct resolution somehow, so something really weird is going on
[02:05] <tems> Clearzen - just ran that command again.  Selected vesa and resolution.  It warned me that I could be overwriting something, then gave me a prompt again.  Reboot gives same error again
[02:06] <clearzen> tems: what error is it?
[02:06] <tems> Failed to start the x server..etc
[02:06] <alwrwr2003> http://freshmeat.net/projects/wget/
[02:06] <clearzen> tems: if you could give me an error # that would help
[02:06] <tems> also, the "error: microcode "bcm43xx_etc.etc.etc.etc" message keeps appearing over the top
[02:07] <clearzen> tems: try startx -- :1
[02:07] <kindofabuzz> !.bash_profile
[02:07] <tems> OK, will type them both out in full...one sec
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bash_profile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Flamekebab> soulrider__, it seems the Xorg config that's running works fairly well, but I can't find the config file it's using for it
[02:07] <carol> ok i pasted the list of servers on that website
[02:07] <Flamekebab> does Gutsy not use xorg.conf, is it now like, xorg2.conf or something?
[02:07] <Flannel> carol: Now you need to give us the URL that you get after you submit
[02:07] <tems> "Failed to start the X Server (your graphical interface).  It is likely that it is not set up correctly.  Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"  as well as that error message, another message appeared over the top of that one and continues to repeat every 30 seconds or so .  "[xxx.xxxxxx] bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[02:07] <Flamekebab> it all comes down to "wtf is going on here..?"
[02:07] <carol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60113/
[02:08] <kindofabuzz> where is the .bash_profile?
[02:08] <clearzen> tems: you need to blacklist the bcm43xx driver
[02:08] <ani1> kindofabuzz: ~
[02:08] <Flannel> carol: Have you actually used automatix?
[02:08] <ani1> kindofabuzz: ls -a
[02:08] <Flamekebab> is there a way to find out which xorg file is in use?
[02:08] <carol> yes for about 6 packages now
[02:08] <tems> the startx command you mentioned gives the follow.  Fatal server error: no screens found.   XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) etc
[02:08] <ani1> Flamekebab: its /etc/X11/xorg.conf you may have deleted control alt backspace it will restart x and recreate your xorg.conf
[02:08] <tems> how do I blacklist the bcm driver>
[02:09] <carol> im taking it that automatrix is just a waste of space and time and could corrupt your os
[02:09] <Flannel> carol: alright, well, before upgrading, it's recommended that you backup your data, since automatix has been known to cause problems while upgrading.  There's no guarentee that it will, but its a possibility.
[02:09] <Flamekebab> carol, I've found automatix quite handy
[02:10] <ani1> tems: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:10] <egc> yay yay, gparted rocks
[02:10] <Flamekebab> and I've installed Ubuntu on countless machines
[02:10] <Flannel> carol: as for the list, it all looks in order as far as the ubuntu repos are concerned.
[02:10] <Flannel> Flamekebab: Please don't recommend automatix here.
[02:10] <ani1> Flamekebab: it could break your system
[02:10] <clearzen> twistedbeatfreek: still there?
[02:11] <clearzen> twistedbeatfreek: still there?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Flamekebab, Please do not promote that terrible script in this room
[02:11] <egc> hehe
[02:11] <tems> lol at automatix outrage
[02:11] <Flamekebab> anyone else want to tell me to lie and say I dislike the handy, if somewhat risky script?
[02:11] <LibertyShadow> tems, open the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist as root in your favorite text editor
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[02:11] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[02:12] <ani1> !automatix  > Flamekebab
[02:12] <carol> well thank you for looking.  that makes me think i either need to reboot my router and computer or just that from my location the routers inbetween me and the servers are down.
[02:12] <Flannel> Flamekebab: We're not asking you to say you dislike it, we're asking that you don't recommend it here.  Unless you personally are planning on being here 24 hours a day to support the issues it causes.
[02:12] <LibertyShadow> tems: then add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the end of it
[02:12] <clearzen> tems: try adding bcm43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:12] <Flamekebab> Flannel, I didn't recommend it, I just disagreed that it's always bad
[02:12] <Flannel> carol: Which servers is it saying it can't connect to?  It should give you a URL, I just need a few.
[02:12] <CTho> I'm having trouble with "sound juicer" in gutsy.  Only some of the profiles are available in the "output format" list
[02:13] <egc> I think Flamekebab is just presenting an option, which is good IMHO
[02:13] <Flamekebab> anyway, my problem was that I've removed my xorg file (well, I renamed it so there isn't one, then restarted the X server) and yet a new one hasn't been generated
[02:13] <CTho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sound-juicer/+bug/95948 hmmm
[02:13] <xim> is it possible to make it so that themes in gnome have no effect on how webpages are displayed
[02:13] <Flamekebab> if you don't know what you're doing, don't mess with automatix, but it can be handy for installing a few things, which is why I don't hate it
[02:14] <egc> CTho: which profile are you looking for?
[02:14] <clearzen> Flamekebab: as far as I know it will not generate one. It will use the failsafe instead
[02:14] <xim> i dont see why they would anyway, but they do
[02:14] <CTho> egc: mp3
[02:14] <tems> OK - opening that file now Liberty.  Complete linux version so can you please suggest an easy built in text editor
[02:14] <daedra> xim: wtf
[02:14] <theseus_> how can i search all text files in a directory for a given phrase "eieio"
[02:14] <Flamekebab> clearzen, this is the odd thing, it's not using the fail safe
[02:14] <egc> CTho: do you have lame installed?
[02:14] <CTho> egc: yes
[02:14] <theseus_> more * | grep "eieio"
[02:14] <Flamekebab> I've never seen anything like it
[02:14] <CTho> egc: looks like a bug
[02:14] <daedra> tems: nano
[02:14] <tems> complete linux VIRGIN
[02:14] <tems> not version
[02:14] <ani1> tems: nano or use gksudo gedit if you want gui
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Flamekebab, <Flamekebab> carol, I've found automatix quite handy amounts to promoting it.. Please stop
[02:14] <tems> it's 2:15am...forgive me :)
[02:14] <theseus_> find . -file_contents "eieio"
[02:14] <clearzen> Flamekebab: I've never tried renaming xorg so that may be standard behavior
[02:15] <egc> CTho: do you have the other plugins used by the mp3 gstreamer pipe installed?
[02:15] <theseus_> search_files_for "eieio" recursive-search => :true
[02:15] <Flamekebab> well the even odder thing is, it's using settings not listed in the file
[02:15] <SeaPhor> i even copied the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from this working install to a usb and shut down, unplugged this hdd and plugged in the one in question, copied the /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the usb to /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the problem drive, no change
[02:15] <CTho> egc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/124437
[02:15] <Flannel> tems: Theres a "Text Editor" in your menu (under accessories, I believe)
[02:15] <xim> daedra: like they screw up the colors of some webpages, setting text color where I have to highlight it to read it
[02:15] <egc> CTho: i believe there was a id3mux one or something
[02:15] <ani1> Flamekebab: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:15] <xim> even ebay
[02:15] <tems> Flannel - I'm at root :)
[02:15] <LibertyShadow> tems: I also added bcm43xx to DISABLED_MODULES in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[02:15] <jramsey> can K3b convert mp3 to cda before burning a cd?
[02:15] <kindofabuzz> ok made an alias in ~/.bash_aliases with the format alias alias=commad, how do i get them to work? reboot?
[02:15] <Flannel> tems: you mean a terminal?
[02:15] <carol> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60114/
[02:15] <tems> nods.  $
[02:15] <prince_jammys> theseus_: grep -r eioio startingpath
[02:15] <Flamekebab> I mean, the Xserver is using settings that it's drawing from somewhere, obviously, but I can't figure out where
[02:15] <kindofabuzz> alias alias=command
[02:16] <Flannel> tems: sudo nano /path/to/file  will open the file with the permissions you need (for normal files, ditch the sudo at the front)
[02:16] <Flamekebab> I like what it's running but I may need to switch it to a different nvidia driver to improve performance
[02:16] <CTho> egc: ah, i see
[02:16] <kindofabuzz> !alias
[02:16] <orudie> Flannel: this is what have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60115/
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <jramsey> !K3b
[02:17] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:17] <Flannel> carol: alright, its the third party wine repo that is failing.  You should, if you plan on using third party wine in the future, use the winehq repo.  Here's a new sources.list you can use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60116/
[02:17] <LibertyShadow> tems: So for you > gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist < will open the file in a gui editor... I think someone may have said this earlier.
[02:17] <Flannel> orudie: Looks good.
[02:17] <orudie> Flannel: but i didnt change it
[02:17] <LibertyShadow> tems: then add "blacklist bcm43xx"
[02:17] <orudie> Flannel: this is how it was
[02:18] <Flannel> orudie: Where was this file located?
[02:18] <Flamekebab> When I'm jumping about saying "USE AUTOMATIX! IT'S PERFECT!" you can give me stick for it without me complaining, but I see no reason why I can't just say "I find it handy on occasion" in passing without at least three of you complaining at me
[02:18] <orudie> Flannel:  /etc/default/ddclient
[02:18] <Flamekebab> is there any way of finding which xorg.conf file is currently in use?
[02:18] <egc> CTho: those plugins are contained within different packages...make sure you get the multiverse versions also to make sure you get the complete collection
[02:18] <Flannel> Flamekebab: Fair enough
[02:18] <egc> it should work
[02:18] <CTho> egc: yeah, thanks.  installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse got it working
[02:19] <CTho> seems like a bug that the UI shows impossible things though
[02:19] <xoqa> in gentoo, i am able to find installed packages using "equery f <package>", is there something similar for aptitude or apt-get?
[02:19] <xoqa> apt**
[02:19] <Flannel> xoqa: apt-cache search [terms]
[02:19] <egc> CTho: it's slick from here out though ;)
[02:19] <Flannel> xoqa: oh, installde packages.  What are you trying to find out regarding them?
[02:19] <xoqa> Flannel: where an executable is
[02:19] <tems> OK - I wrote the line to the blacklist file.  Really sorry about the delays with the replies and if I miss anyhting people say.  I've spent so long in Windows I've become rusted and worn
[02:20] <clearzen> xoqa: sudo dpkg -l | grep package
[02:20] <daedra> my browser has a quirk
[02:20] <Flannel> orudie: Interesting.  And `sudo /etc/init.d/ddclient start` doesn't work?  complains about the daemon line?
[02:20] <daedra> every NEW page I visit presents me with an "Object Moved" page
[02:20] <xim> do you have to enter desktop backgrounds into Desktop Cube one at a time?
[02:20] <daedra> but links therein do not
[02:20] <xoqa> clearzen: that's nice, but it doesn't tell me where the file is located
[02:20] <ani1> xoqa: if your trying to find the path to the binary use which
[02:20] <daedra> just NEW pages
[02:20] <Flannel> xoqa: dpkg -L [package] gives you a list of files
[02:20] <ani1> xoqa: e.g. which nano
[02:20] <xoqa> ani1: that worked
[02:21] <xoqa> ani1: ty
[02:21] <ani1> xoqa: np you also can use slocate to find all occurrences of it e.g. slocate nano
[02:21] <clearzen> xoqa: locate packagename?
[02:21] <xoqa> clearzen, Flannel thanks as well
[02:21] <xoqa> clearzen: i'd have to update the slocate database for that to work
[02:21] <egc> hmm
[02:22] <xoqa> it's a fresh install
[02:22] <ani1> xoqa: man updatedb
[02:22] <egc> anybody happen to have taken apart their xbox 360 hdd and replaced it with a bigger drive?
[02:22] <egc> hehe
[02:22] <Cpudan80> !offtopic | egc
[02:22] <ubotu> egc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:22] <xoqa> ani1: thanks :)
[02:23] <Itaku> i got webmin installed and bind9 installed. im trying to get a domain called "itakupwns.com" working and how do i make it so i can go to itakupwns.com anywhere in the world?
[02:23] <egc> Cpudan80: but i'll use ubuntu to transfer the files!
[02:23] <dabbill> i just installed a fresh ubuntu on a new HD, but now my old 60gig HD is only displaying as 12gig... is there a way to find out possibly whats going on with that?
[02:23] <carol> hey flannel.  what do i type into console to edit the sources list?
[02:23] <dabbill> or what to try first
[02:23] <Flannel> carol: Do you have a GUI on the machine?
[02:23] <Cpudan80> egc: you could use dd to a direct copy of the drive (bit for bit)
[02:23] <carol> yes and terminal
[02:23] <prince_jammys> carol: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <Flannel> Itaku: You go to a registrar and buy that domain
[02:23] <ani1> egc: its not supported in this chan you will need to find a tut..linux is really linux the tools you would use you can find anywhere i would ask in a xbox chan
[02:24] <Flannel> carol: alt-f2, then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24]  * egc gets the hint
[02:24] <tems> OK - I added those lines to the two files mentioned and I am no longer receiving that extremely annoying error over the top of my screen (Thanks for that guys!!)  Unfortunately the main problem remains - the xserver not starting.
[02:24] <carol> and how to get back to my gui?
[02:24] <Itaku> Flannel: i want to register it with bind9 installed on my system
[02:24] <Flannel> carol: What did you do to get out of it?
[02:25] <carol> ya what did you do to get backheh
[02:25] <egc> Cpudan80: that was my thinking too, except that the drives are of different capacities, so i would lose the extra space on the bigger drive
[02:25] <Flannel> carol: ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back, if you ctrl-alt-f[1-6] to get out of it.
[02:25] <carol> i already know that alt f2 goes to a full screen terminal
[02:25] <Cpudan80> egc: I really dont know - sorry
[02:25] <egc> no prob
[02:25] <Flannel> carol: no, alt-f2 just opens up a run window.
[02:25] <jramsey> carol, alt-f2 is a shortcut to run an app
[02:26] <orudie> Flannel: i added my new ip to zoneedit, still nothing :(
[02:26] <Flannel> carol: ctrl-alt-f2 takes you to a full screen terminal, and to get back, ctrl-alt-f7
[02:26] <tems> Should I post the "X server output to diagnose the problem" ?
[02:26] <stevendemorez> anyone here use puredata if so I have a question concerning puredata ubuntu and gem
[02:27] <ani1> !pastebin | tems
[02:27] <carol> alt f2 actually gives me a run application window
[02:27] <ubotu> tems: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:27] <dabbill> i just installed a fresh ubuntu on a new HD, but now my old 60gig HD is only displaying as 12gig... is there a way to find out possibly whats going on with that? or what i can try first to see whats going on with that drive?
[02:27] <jayne> hi there,
[02:27] <tems> Okee dokee!
[02:27] <egc> hi jayne
[02:28] <jayne> I am trying to get VCD's playing on my Gutsy laptop..... how can I get this going?
[02:28] <xoqa> i'm trying to configure my kernel, i downloaded the source files.. however when doing "make menuconfig" in /usr/src/linux-source-<version> i get many errors. so i'm trying to pipe the output to a text file doing, however i'm being told permission denied while sudoing the operation. so i tried logging into root so i could perform the command, but i don't recall setting up a root passwd.. i've tried the sudo passwd but given Authentification failure. some help w
[02:28] <orudie> Flannel: maybe it has to do with apache ?
[02:28] <jayne> I have tried gxine, VLC and Mplayer.. and none work
[02:29] <xphox> hey
[02:29] <jayar> I have H2 Cobra Webcamera here and I am having problem in connecting it to my ubuntu box... can someone here tell me which driver to use with this device? thanks in advance
[02:29] <Flannel> orudie: If you're able to connect via the IP, its nothing on the box, just the redirect/DNS.  It might just need time to propogate, or your browser may be caching the DNS lookup for a period of time.
[02:29] <ani1> jayar: vlc should handle that file type
[02:29] <xphox> does ne1 no how to install frostwire in ubuntu
[02:29] <SeaPhor> xoqa, have you tried using no password?
[02:29] <Flannel> !frostwire | xphox
[02:29] <ubotu> xphox: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> dabbill, sudo fdisk -l
[02:30] <ani1> jayar: same with totem mplayer xine etc whats the problem?
[02:30] <orudie> Flannel: got it working, thank you for your support
[02:30] <Flannel> orudie: glad to hear it.
[02:30] <jayne> anyone?
[02:30] <xoqa> SeaPhor: doesn't work
[02:30] <Flamekebab> is there any way of finding which xorg.conf file is currently in use?
[02:30] <darksky0> how do I know if my user has owner permissions?
[02:30] <stevendemorez> >Jayne are they dat files?
[02:30] <ani1> jayne: * vlc should handle that file type along with totem mplay xine etc whats the problem?
[02:30] <clearzen> xoqa: sudo -i
[02:30] <dabbill> it shows 3 partitions. 2 are 5 gig... but i never had a 5 gig partition on that drive
[02:30] <jayar> my webcam... vlc totem and all media players are working in my ubuntu box
[02:31] <clearzen> xoqa: or sudo -s
[02:31] <ani1> jayar: sorry that was meant for jayne tab tab rofl
[02:31] <xoqa> clearzen: thank you
[02:31] <jayar> ah ok
[02:31] <jayar> no prob
[02:31] <darksky0> I get Permission Denied during some stuff regarding MySQL, even if the CHMOD gives full permissions to owner
[02:31] <jayar> I am able to make all things work except for this one
[02:31] <darksky0> ? ^^''
[02:32] <jayne> stevendemorez: yes .dat files
[02:32] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, it shows 3 partitions. whitch is what i had on that drive, but it is showing 2 of the partitions as 5gig ones, I never had any 5 gig partitions on that drive.
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> dabbill, something is seriously wrong.  I would get gparted livecd   boot that and see what it shows
[02:33] <rukubites> Kind of a technical question. 64 bit ubuntu 7.10 on a box with 2g ram 4g swap. I'm trying to allocate a process about 1.5g memory, but I run out of memory when I get above about 700mb. Is there some parameter holding me back?
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[02:33] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[02:33] <Dipingo> Can someon tell me how I can share my windows internet connection
[02:33] <Dipingo> with Ubuntu
[02:33] <CTho> is there a way to get rhythmbox to see that i've deleted some fo the files that i have in my current playlist and remove them from the playlist?
[02:34] <stevendemorez> jayne:  well as an1 said they should play pretty much readily, totem is a good way to get them playin' no prob
[02:34] <jayne> stevendemorez: like I said nothing doing
[02:34] <clearzen> Dipingo: A router?
[02:34] <dabbill> Jack_Sparrow, okay
[02:34] <jayne> stevendemorez: I have been reading How-to's saying it works....
[02:34] <stevendemorez> jayne:  do you have the gstreamer plugins
[02:34] <xoqa> someone want to take a look at this:http://dpaste.com/40074/
[02:34] <Dipingo> yes i have a router
[02:35] <stevendemorez> jayne:  sorry 'bout that
[02:35] <jayne> stevendemorez: let me check
[02:35] <jramsey> Dipingo, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[02:35] <tems> Thanks guys - here's the paste from the Xserver error:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60118/
[02:35] <clearzen> xoqa: do you have the ncurses-dev installed?
[02:35] <stevendemorez> do you use synaptic or terminal to manage packages?
[02:35] <jayne> stevendemorez: both
[02:35] <xoqa> clearzen: installing it now
[02:36] <m1r> how can i install network manager icon near watch ?
[02:36] <xoqa> clearzen: that worked :)
[02:36] <stevendemorez> i dig synaptic only cause it's got a gui (I know I'm lame) make sure to have the gstreamer plugins installed
[02:36] <xoqa> clearzen: thanks
[02:36] <clearzen> xoqa: no problem
[02:37] <foibles> join #kubuntu
[02:37] <stevendemorez> jayne:  and the w32 codecs
[02:37] <xoqa> clearzen: aah, the first line "curses.h: No such file or directory"
[02:37] <jayne> stevendemorez: there are so many gstreamer plugins
[02:37] <stevendemorez> jayne  is what I've used to watch the few vcds I had
[02:37]  * xoqa takes note
[02:38] <jayne> stevendemorez: I cannot find w32 codecs in Synaptic
[02:38] <clearzen> xoqa: yep that was it =)
[02:38] <Flamekebab> this is very odd.. I can stand systems that work, systems that don't work but systems that work when they clearly shouldn't? There's no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/ how can things be displaying at a crisp 1360x768 and not the failsafe of 800x600?!
[02:38] <stevendemorez> jayne: for the gstreamer plugins bad and ugly multiverse
[02:39] <lancerocke> I need help installing 32 bit firefox on Ubuntu x64. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava but I'm still getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m56662c2e and my Firefox still looks like this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c319f3958508
[02:39] <SATANAS> ello
[02:39] <SATANAS> H
[02:40] <smallfry> whats up everyone?
[02:40] <Rolcol> How do I upgrade a Gutsy install to Hardy?
[02:40] <Pici> !hardy
[02:40] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> smallfry: This channel is for support - general chat takes place in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[02:40] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:40] <SATANAS> I'm trying to create a Bootable USB Pen Drive to flash my BIOS. I have a BIOS.WPH file and since my CD drive does not work and my laptop does not have floppy I want to create a Bootable USB Flash Drive using Syslinux to flash the BIOS. How can I do that
[02:40] <clearzen> Rolcol: sudo update-manager -c -d
[02:41] <stevendemorez> jayne: for the w32 codecs check out medibuntu.org
[02:41] <Rolcol> Thanks clearzen
[02:41] <clearzen> Rolcol: sorry dist-upgrade -c -d I think
[02:41] <stevendemorez> jayne: it'll tell you how to add the repo there as well
[02:41] <Rolcol> bash: dis-upgrade: command not found
[02:41] <Rolcol> wait
[02:41] <lancerocke> I need help installing 32 bit firefox on Ubuntu x64. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava but I'm still getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m56662c2e and my Firefox still looks like this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c319f3958508
[02:41] <Rolcol> misspelled
[02:42] <jayne> stevendemorez: what about ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:42] <clearzen> Rolcol: /sigh my bad. gksu update-manager -c -d
[02:42] <Dipingo> clearzen, I am running Ubuntu on a VMware server
[02:42] <stevendemorez> is synaptic saying that's dependent
[02:42] <stevendemorez> ?
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> SATANAS, risky at best...  Very few systems actually must have a flash.  Many people try it when they think they are out of options or because someone suggested it.  Be sure you need it.. 20% end up as door stops
[02:42] <stevendemorez> jayne: sorry about not directing that
[02:42] <OasisGames> Quick Q that I'm having a bit of trouble finding a simple answer to: Does the LiveCD include source packages for preinstalled software? Specifically, would the final Hardy LiveCD include the compiz-fusion-plugins-extra package?
[02:43] <Scunizi> lancerocke, FF looks good to me. better than my version..
[02:43] <jayne> stevendemorez: its just in the list when searching for gstreamer
[02:43] <super> will compiz run in virtualbox?
[02:43] <soldats> super: no
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> super, no
[02:43] <soldats> it has no 3d rendering
[02:43] <lancerocke> Scunizi: I cant take a screenshot of the things i need to take
[02:43] <super> :(
[02:43] <stevendemorez> jayne:  it has some really useful stuff in there I have it installed but i don't think it's the vcd support
[02:43] <super> ty
[02:43] <lancerocke> Scunizi: Its messed up
[02:43] <SATANAS> I bought an Atheros Mini PCI Wireless Adapter and I need to flash the BIOS to make it work since my HP BIOS is locked
[02:43] <soldats> np
[02:43] <lancerocke> Scunizi: I get errors
[02:44] <lancerocke> I need help installing 32 bit firefox on Ubuntu x64. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava but I'm still getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m56662c2e and my Firefox still looks like this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c319f3958508
[02:44] <Scunizi> lancerocke, that's one of the reasons why most of us stick to 32 bit. It's the headaches we like to avoid in making some/most programs behave correctly..
[02:45] <Scunizi> in 64 bit
[02:45] <lancerocke> Scunizi: thanks bro, but that really doesnt help me
[02:45] <jramsey> anyone know if K3b will burn CDA formats from an audio CD project containing all MP3 files?
[02:45] <PiPMeister> j #ubuntu-se
[02:46] <Scunizi> lancerocke, sorry.. I admire your tenacity to get it done.. .. I've never run 64 bit..
[02:46] <clearzen> jramsey: yes it will
[02:46] <jramsey> clearzen, txs; burn in progress
[02:46] <foibles> i have a partition that won't mount on startup
[02:46] <lancerocke> Scunizi: np
[02:46] <foibles> /dev/hda1    /media/hda1   ext3 blah blah
[02:46] <foibles> is the line in fstab
[02:46] <clearzen> foibles: Can you mount it manually?
[02:46] <foibles> clearzen, yeah
[02:46] <foibles> but the same line i use manually won't do it in fstab
[02:46] <foibles> clearzen,
[02:47] <clearzen> foibles: add the auto option to the line in your fstab
[02:47] <SATANAS> How to flash the BIOS from USB flash Drive
[02:47] <coleosis> whats the fstab actually do?
[02:47] <foibles> clearzen, what does that look like?
[02:47] <foibles> coleosis, its the file that loads your partition mounts
[02:47] <carol> who is flannel
[02:47] <clearzen> foibles: auto,users,rw
[02:47] <carol> nm
[02:48] <foibles> clearzen, ok
[02:48] <lancerocke> I need help installing 32 bit firefox on Ubuntu x64. I followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava but I'm still getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m56662c2e and my Firefox still looks like this: http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c319f3958508
[02:48] <Scunizi> foibles, what version of ubuntu are you using ?  usually Gutsy uses UUID numbers unless you've manually rewritten fstab.. .. the auto option form clearzen might work for you
[02:48] <carol> im using xchat and the userlist is gone.. how the heck do i get it back up
[02:48] <Scunizi> carol.. he's the loco head of calif.
[02:48] <foibles> Scunizi, im using gutsy, and yeah its a manual addition
[02:48] <coleosis> foibles: Thanks.
[02:48] <foibles> Scunizi, ive noticed it uses UUID, but i don't really know how to tinker with that
[02:49] <Scunizi> carol, ctrl+f7
[02:49] <Scunizi> foibles, just another way of identifing the drive.. blkid will give you the id's of your drives & partitions.
[02:49] <carol> that dont work
[02:50] <Scunizi> carol, are you using gnome-xchat or just xchat? they are both in the repos.. xchat is more full featured
[02:50] <foibles> Scunizi, should i use UUID instead of /dev/hda1?
[02:50] <foibles> whats the difference
[02:50] <Scunizi> foibles, you might give it a try.. maybe less conflict.
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid
[02:50] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:50] <carol> just xchat
[02:51] <coleosis> Do you guys know of any good websites to help with the learning of Linux?
[02:51] <jrib> coleosis: help.ubuntu.com
[02:51] <jrib> !cli > coleosis (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:51] <Scunizi> carol, can you get to the top menu and click on View then but a check mark next to "user list"?
[02:51] <coleosis> !cli
[02:51] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:51] <jrib> lancerocke: so what isn't working?  I'm not sure why you are showing the last link
[02:51] <xphox> wat filesharing program do some of yallz use?
[02:52] <carol> userlist buttons is checked
[02:52] <coleosis> Thanks
[02:52] <Scunizi> !p2p | xphox
[02:52] <ubotu> xphox: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[02:52] <jrib> coleosis: I would start with help.ubuntu.com, the !cli stuff is only if you like command line
[02:52] <SATANAS> How to flash BIOS from USB???
[02:52] <lancerocke> jrib: the last links are my error message and screenshot
[02:52] <ani1> !offtopic | SATANAS
[02:52] <ubotu> SATANAS: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:52] <marshall> does anybody know where i could find some gutsy debs for rhythmbox 0.11.5?
[02:53] <theseus> hmm . . . i can't apt-get E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:53] <__catron1> How would you get A sidewinder mouse working under ubuntu?
[02:53] <coleosis> jrib: Thank you so much.
[02:53] <Scunizi> marshall, maybe www.getdeb.net
[02:53] <lancerocke> jrib: my screenshot is to show that styles are not working
[02:53] <theseus> not running apt otherwise
[02:53] <ani1> theseus: is the update manager running?
[02:53] <marshall> Scunizi: they dont have them
[02:53] <lancerocke> jrib: fonts are white on top of a tan background
[02:53] <tems> thats just great.  now my computer appears to have shit itself and wont even go past the ubuntu loading screen
[02:53] <SATANAS> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10!!!!!
[02:53] <jrib> lancerocke: pastebin the output of this command: apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk lib32asound2; which firefox32
[02:53] <theseus> anil: oh it was a hidin
[02:53] <marshall> theseus: sudo apt-get ...
[02:54] <Scunizi> marshall, you can always try compiling it...
[02:54] <FAJALO1> hey all, i have firestarter to run when my computer starts up, but it is not doing so...
[02:54] <theseus> marshall: it was updated manager -- finished from yesterday
[02:54] <FAJALO1> is there something tat i could do possibly?
[02:54] <ani1> ps -A | grep firestarter
[02:54] <marshall> Scunizi: lol i tried, configure was complaining about totem or something
[02:54] <ani1> FAJALO1:
[02:54] <lancerocke> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m6a56c6cf
[02:54] <ani1> errrr FAJALO1 ps -A | grep firestarter
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> can i restat nautilus without restarting X?
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> restart
[02:55] <jrib> lancerocke: what version of ubuntu?
[02:55] <LibertyShadow> SATANAS: http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm
[02:55] <FAJALO1> ani1:  5959   ?       00:00:00 firestarter
[02:55] <lancerocke> jrib: 7.10 x64
[02:55] <FAJALO1> what to do from there?
[02:55] <ani1> FAJALO1: its running
[02:56] <FAJALO1> i know it's running, but i want it to run on startup.
[02:56] <LibertyShadow> SATANAS: The format utility is windows based, but the idea is there :D
[02:56] <FAJALO1> i have it to run on startup but it's not.
[02:56] <marshall> Scunizi: configure: error: totem playlist parsing library not found or too old
[02:56] <FAJALO1> but pidgin is.
[02:56] <Scunizi> marshall, ah.. the fun of dependencies.. I'm not very good at compiling so I really can't help with that..
[02:56] <SATANAS> LibertyShadow: Thanks!
[02:57] <jrib> lancerocke: notice that a package (ia32-libs-gtk) is not in 7.10, it seems to have been incorporated into ia32-libs, so this is a bit outdated
[02:57] <lancerocke> jrib: what can i do?
[02:57] <Scunizi> marshall, you might wait until Hardy is released for upgrade.  It may have the newer version and should upgrade automatically
[02:57] <ani1> FAJALO1: System \ Preferences\ Sessions
[02:57] <FAJALO1> ani1 yah i have it set there to run on startup but it isn't
[02:58] <jrib> lancerocke: you are sure /etc/pango32/pangorc and /usr/local/bin/firefox32 are exactly as in the wiki?
[02:58] <ani1> FAJALO1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-33615.html
[02:58] <lancerocke> jrib: it is in the guide i linked to
[02:58] <Scunizi> FAJALO1, doesn't firestarter need root access to run? if so it won't run at startup in "sessions"
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> just get a router =)
[02:58] <jrib> lancerocke: the guide is the wiki
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Scunizi: Firestarter is just a configuration utility - it doesn't need to run in the background.
[02:59] <ani1> FAJALO1: the answer is a link in the forum pointing to here http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#trayicon
[02:59] <lancerocke> jrib: how can i tell if it is exactly how it is in the wiki?
[02:59] <crshman> hi all, i have a software raid that doesn't want to work after i rebooted. It shows all the drives however it insists on setting one drive as a slave so it won't start the array
[02:59] <jrib> lancerocke: pastebin them if you wish
[02:59] <Scunizi> tonyyarusso, ah ok.. my bad
[02:59] <crshman> any ideas?
[02:59] <lancerocke> jrib: can u tell me what to look for
[02:59] <Menfest> tonyyarusso if firestarter is not running, theres no firewall runing
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> Menfest: iptables is the firewall, and is built into the kernel.
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> !firewall | Menfest
[03:00] <ubotu> Menfest: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:00] <Menfest> tonyyarusso and you wont get stats of attacks and blocked ips triying to attack
[03:00] <Menfest> tonyyarusso ic
[03:00] <lancerocke> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m7787271f
[03:01] <Menfest> tonyyarusso so even the firestarted is not runing. its no problem?
[03:01] <nickrud> Menfest: you can test for yourself after booting and before running firestarter:  sudo iptables -L lists all the active iptable rules
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> Menfest: stats I'll give you - although there might be some logging level you could set.  (/me doesn't really care who's being blocked, as long as they are)
[03:01] <Menfest> nickrud ok.
[03:01] <ani1> Menfest: conky could always do that for you ;)
[03:01] <nickrud> gack. more desktop clutter
[03:01] <FAJALO1> ani1: ok so if nothing comes back then am i good?
[03:01] <Menfest> ani1 conky ?
[03:01] <ani1> lol @ nickrud
[03:02] <lancerocke> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m560abf30
[03:02] <ani1> FAJALO1: read the post if you want a tray icon  http://www.fs-security.com/docs/faq.php#trayicon
[03:02] <acidburn> Anyone know how to start the ubuntu top taskbar when it's missing?
[03:02] <nickrud> acidburn: do you have the bottom one?
[03:02] <FAJALO1> ani1 ok thank you.
[03:02] <acidburn> no
[03:02] <nickrud> !resetpanels | acidburn
[03:02] <ubotu> acidburn: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[03:03] <jrib> lancerocke: let me do this here and see if I have the same results
[03:03] <tems> OK - I've fiddles around and changed screen type to VGA and instead of getting no screens, it's getting:  (EE) VGA(0): Driver cant support depth 24.  (EE) Screen(s) found but none habe a useable configuration
[03:03] <lancerocke> jrib: ok.  thanks
[03:03] <m-c> anyone seen Firefox spew garbled text on the window instead of downloading a file?  happens when you left click a link that says "click here to download", so you can't Save Link As...  Know how to fix this?  Maybe a MIME type?
[03:04] <Menfest> ani1 nickrud tonyyarusso, how can i see the blocked connections or get alerted when ever some tries to make a connection and its blocked by my rules?
[03:04] <tems> ^^^ - is this something I can work with?  it at least seems to believe theres a display chip there now
[03:04] <acidburn> Thanks.  Got message "no processes killed"
[03:04] <marshall> Scunizi: -_-
[03:04] <nickrud> acidburn: if you do that and still don't have the panels, do   alt-f2  gnome-panel
[03:04] <Scunizi> marshall, -_- ?
[03:04] <nickrud> Menfest: then you can run firestarter, I guess. There are also various log tools that will mail you summaries
[03:04] <jakeb> Has anybody had any success building/running MonoDevelop on Gutsy?
[03:04] <acidburn> Alt-F2 doesn't do anything.
[03:04] <marshall> Scunizi: thats a depressed face
[03:05] <jakeb> MonoDevelop 1.0 thatis
[03:05] <marshall> Scunizi: looking at the floor
[03:05] <userbrasil> Hello, regarding my web cam. Skype 2.0 detects it and produces an image, but I haven't been able to get ubuntu to run it properly. Easycam won't install a driver for it. Any ideas?
[03:05] <nickrud> Menfest: but I agree with tonyyarusso , as long as they're blocked I'm happy
[03:05] <marshall> Scunizi: im crap at compiling too
[03:05] <Scunizi> marshall, ah.  emoticons I'm only partially good at....
[03:05] <Menfest> ani1 nickrud tonyyarusso, what tools exactly. and firestarter has a bug. it gets shutdown and has to manually start up.
[03:05] <marshall> Scunizi: mm
[03:05] <Menfest> nickrud ic
[03:05] <nickrud> acidburn: then open a terminal, type gnome-panel & , then type exit.   Can you close all instances of firefox?  Run 'ps -ef | grep firefox' after you do that to verify they are indeed all closed
[03:06] <shea|up> be careful!!!1
[03:07] <nickrud> Menfest: I prefer to keep conversations on the main line
[03:07] <ani1> same
[03:07] <lancerocke> jrib: they are all closed
[03:07] <lancerocke> jrib: danny@danny-desktop:~$ ps -ef | grep firefox
[03:07] <lancerocke> danny     6052  5861  0 23:07 pts/0    00:00:00 grep firefox
[03:07] <lancerocke> danny@danny-desktop:~$
[03:08] <acidburn> Thanks.  gnome-panel did the trick.
[03:08] <nickrud> Menfest: you might like fwanalog , there's also logcheck which tells you much more than just firewall stuff
[03:08] <jrib> lancerocke: and now when you start firefox32 you still receive warnings immediately?
[03:08] <Menfest> nickrud ok
[03:08] <lancerocke> jrib: yes
[03:08] <Menfest> nickrud pm?
[03:08] <nickrud> Menfest: sure
[03:09] <kindofabuzz> lancerocke, http://forums.mozillazine.org
[03:09] <kumarphilly> i phone $250 att.com 8gb refurb
[03:09] <jrib> lancerocke: does libnodoka.so mean anything to you?  I don't have such a file
[03:10] <lancerocke> jrib: i dont either
[03:10] <lancerocke> jrib: WAIT!
[03:10] <lancerocke> jrib: nodoka is my theme engine
[03:10] <lancerocke> jrib: nodoka is my theme
[03:10] <jrib> lancerocke: this must be it
[03:10] <lancerocke> jrib: so what can i do?
[03:11] <Spagbol> hello
[03:11] <Broam> Hello all.
[03:11] <Spagbol> can you help me
[03:11] <jrib> lancerocke: use one of the engines that is in the ia32-libs package?
[03:11] <Spagbol> im kinda a noob lol
[03:11] <Scunizi> Spagbol, you have to ask a question to get any answers..
[03:11] <Spagbol> kk
[03:11] <lancerocke> jrib: i dont think that is a fix
[03:12] <Spagbol> how do i install the kde interface?
[03:12] <acidburn> Anyone know how to add 2 panels?  I installed compizconfig and want to try the cube.  Only have 2 panels currently.
[03:12] <Scunizi> Spagbol, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:12] <ani1> acidburn: ccsm
[03:12] <jrib> lancerocke: alternatively, you can figure out how ia32-libs is created and emulate that for your engine
[03:12] <Scunizi> Spagbol, then log out and change session to kde
[03:12] <jrib> lancerocke: why are you using 64bit, and not 32bit?
[03:13] <lancerocke> jrib: you have been of help. thank you. i will be back l8r
[03:13] <Spagbol> thanx
[03:13] <kindofabuzz> of subject here, but how can i make chatzilla automatically identify me with Nickserv?
[03:13] <kindofabuzz> off
[03:13] <Scunizi> jrib, sounds like he didn't want to answer the question.. probably just tinkering.
[03:14] <tems> Hey guys - I have determined that under windows my display driver is an "Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family" and it appears that is not one of the types on the xserver-xorg configuration
[03:14] <ani1> kindofabuzz: http://blogs.sun.com/edwingo/tags/irc otherwise google it..its in the faq
[03:15] <siraxolot> i need an xp bootsplash. i found some on kdelooks.org, but it looks like they just show screenshots. anyone know where an actual *.so of it could be?
[03:15] <acidburn> ccsm sets up compiz but don't you need to have 4 panels to use the cube?
[03:15] <tems> Any ideas on how to remedy that?  Some guy on the web had some joy typing :sudo apt-get install 915resolution xserver-xorg-video-intel
[03:15] <Kyro> hey guys
[03:15] <tems> but that doesn't work for me.
[03:15] <ani1> acidburn: right click the applet in the corner and go to prefs then click columns twice
[03:16] <Scunizi> acidburn, I use three.. nice triangle
[03:16] <ani1> heh
[03:16] <Spagbol> how do i know all drivers are installed and working?
[03:16] <fr500> tems: you installed the packaged, but did you set the resolution accordingly?
[03:17] <Scunizi> Spagbol, does it work? if so then it's good to go.
[03:17] <Spagbol> yes
[03:17] <Broam> Spagbol: Hardware Information in System can sometimes give you a clue.
[03:17] <Spagbol> sort of
[03:17] <Broam> Spagbol: what piece of hardware is acting odd?
[03:17] <Spagbol> sound and graphics
[03:17] <tems> I don't follow?  I think I set the resolution properly but I may have been wrong.  Can I check?
[03:17] <acidburn> There's no applet in any of the corners
[03:18] <Broam> Spagbol: what do you know about your sound hardware?
[03:18] <JoCo_> hey guys can someone help e
[03:18] <Broam> JoCo_: this is the place.
[03:18] <Scunizi> Spagbol, what kind of video card do you have?
[03:18] <ani1> acidburn: its the multidesktop in the (usually) bottom right
[03:18] <Spagbol> i think its ac97?
[03:18] <Broam> Spagbol: it should work just fine. Are you having issues recording?
[03:18] <JoCo_> when i boot into my linux mint partition a terminal fullscreen comes up and say hdb: drive not ready for command right after the liinux mint splash screen
[03:18] <ani1> acidburn: its called workspace switcher
[03:19] <JoCo_> then it goes idle black
[03:19] <Spagbol> no sound comes from both speakers and headphones at same time its really annoying
[03:19] <ani1> Spagbol: have you checked alsamixer to make sure mute isnt on
[03:19] <JoCo_> but my xp partition still works and the ubuntu used to i think I installed a driver or something, restarted then it was no good
[03:19] <acidburn> Bottom right has 2 panels but right click does nothing.
[03:19] <Scunizi> ani1, he gets sound out of speakers and headphones at the same time.. mute wouldn't be on.
[03:20] <Some_Person> Is there a program for Linux like Nero Vision? If there is, does it support DVD-VR?
[03:20] <LinuxMonkey> !derivatives | JoCo_
[03:20] <Broam> Spagbol: speakers and headphones at the same time?
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[03:20] <pau2> why are all my videos playing black and white?
[03:20] <Spagbol> i meant sound comes from both
[03:20] <Spagbol> not no sound sorry
[03:20] <ani1> eh my mistake i misread
[03:20] <JoCo_> LinuxMonkey: alright thanks anyway
[03:20] <Scunizi> Some_Person, what is DVD-VR?
[03:20] <Broam> Spagbol: lemme think...
[03:20] <dabbill> I just tried the gparted live CD, it sees my 60gig as a 13gig, i also checked my bios and now my bios is seeing it as a 13gig as well.
[03:21] <Broam> dabbill: 13 gig isn't a barrier, something else is going on therre.
[03:21] <Some_Person> Scunizi: It is a non-standard format for DVDs
[03:21] <ncfi1013> hi i cant mount my ipod in amarok or get my bookmark links to work in konqueror.
[03:21] <Spagbol> yeah sounds quite dodgy if bios is reading it as that
[03:21] <acidburn> Anyone know how to add 2 panels to the desktop?  Have 2 and want 4.
[03:21] <dabbill> Broam, i know, thats what i am tryin to figure out, but i dont know what to try to see whats going on
[03:22] <Broam> dabbill: do you have data on that drive, or is it brand new/formatted?
[03:22] <MUS4SHIII> hi all
[03:22] <jfenwick> hello all, what is the simplest command to ask what kind of hard drives I have in my computer?
[03:22] <Some_Person> Scunizi: It would highly convience me if such program would support it, as my TV's DVD burner records to DVD-RAMs in the -VR format.
[03:23] <Broam> jfenwick: "df -h"
[03:23] <dabbill> Broam, my old linux install, i got a bigger drive today, installed linux on it, hooked up the 60gig to copy my old files off it, but its only being seen as a 13gig, and i cant get my files off it
[03:23] <tems> Any ideas on how to remedy that?  Some guy on the web had some joy typing :sudo apt-get install 915resolution xserver-xorg-video-intel.  didn't work for me though as it said no such package.  is there a way to put the driver on a cd maybe and transfer it over?
[03:23] <pau2> anyone?
[03:23] <Broam> dabbill: Did you have multiple partitions?
[03:23] <Broam> pau2: repeat question?
[03:23] <Scunizi> Some_Person, I was just checking for some links.. I don't know if this will help but.. http://lifehacker.com/software/linux/rip-dvds-in-linux-the-semi+easy-way-330983.php
[03:23] <jfenwick> Broam: I tried that, but it doesn't tell me what kind of device it is. Like, I want know whether it's a Western Digital, etc
[03:23] <tems> Hey guys - I have determined that under windows my display driver is an "Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family" and it appears that is not one of the types on the xserver-xorg configuration
[03:23] <dabbill> Broam, yes
[03:23] <Broam> jfenwick: System -> Hardware inforrmation
[03:23] <pau2> all my videos are playing black and white
[03:23] <Broam> dabbill: would that do it?
[03:23] <Broam> dabbill: did you have one 13GiB partition?
[03:24] <Broam> dabbill: it might be that one of the other partitions just simply isn't mounte
[03:24] <jfenwick> Broam: cool, thanks
[03:24] <Broam> pau2: what codec/forrmat?
[03:24] <dabbill> Broam, it shows the 3 partitions, 2 are 5gig
[03:24] <Some_Person> Scunizi: I have no need to rip DVDs
[03:24] <Scunizi> Some_Person, just burn?
[03:24] <Broam> dabbill: whoa, wtf
[03:24] <dabbill> Broam, but i never had any 5gig partitions on it
[03:24] <Palace_Chan> anybody here use alpine mail client ?
[03:24] <Spagbol> also im having problems using my ext hard drive
[03:24] <Some_Person> Scunizi: Correct.
[03:24] <dabbill> Broam, yea thats what i am sayin lol
[03:24] <Broam> Spagbol: fire away
[03:24] <pau2> Broam: right now I am playing a DVD
[03:24] <Broam> dabbill: what file system?
[03:24] <MUS4SHIII> I'm having problem mounting a drive in fstab. It won't start on boot, but mounts great after "sudo mount -a" here is the fstab line in question: mythtvfs#/media/Storage/Media/RecordedTV	/mnt/mythtvfs fuse	user,auto,host=<IP_ADDRESS> 0 0
[03:24] <pau2> and its b/w
[03:24] <Some_Person> Scunizi: I would like to burn AVI files to DVDs
[03:24] <Spagbol> well i just cant use it
[03:25] <froek> my ssl cert stuff for postfix got all messed up after apt-get dist-upgrade.. is there something I need to re-enable.. something about modules
[03:25] <dabbill> Broam, ext3
[03:25] <Broam> pau2: That is really strange. Have you tried multiple dvds?
[03:25] <Scunizi> Some_Person, AVI to dvd should be able to be done with k3b
[03:25] <dabbill> Broam, and swap
[03:25] <Spagbol> yeah it wont mount
[03:25] <pau2> Broam: yes
[03:26] <froek> is there some command to run after dist-upgrade? something about re-enabling modules?
[03:26] <Some_Person> Scunizi: Is k3b a KDE program? :| I don't like to use KDE programs in GNOME unless absolutely necessary.
[03:26] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know about mythtvfs?
[03:26] <dabbill> Broam, its almost like the firmware on the drive got hosed
[03:26] <Broam> pau2: what video carrd do you have?
[03:26] <Broam> dabbill: entirely possible. Have you tried a live cd?
[03:26] <Some_Person> Scunizi: Also, does k3b support DVD-VR?
[03:27] <Spagbol> so my external hdd wont mount and its formatted under ntfs
[03:27] <ghostnob> hi
[03:27] <Broam> dabbill: what's the drive interface? IDE?
[03:27] <Palace_Chan> anybody know how i can check email on alpine very often ? so like  continuously ? right now i have to keep a browser window open all the time
[03:27] <dabbill> Broam, IDE
[03:27] <dabbill> Broam, current system drive is SATA
[03:27] <Scunizi> Some_Person, it is.. there's also gnome-baker or something similar.. never tried DVD-VR in k3b.. but on reading looks like the VR format just allows editing.. is that the only format dvd that your player supports?
[03:27] <dabbill> Broam, IDE as secondary
[03:27] <pau2> Broam: Intel graphics.... it was working well and then all of a sudden it went b/w
[03:28] <Broam> pau2: recent upgrades?  how's heat?
[03:28] <Some_Person> Scunizi: My recorder will only read DVD-RAMs if they are recorded in the -VR format. And I am able to record in -VR mode in Nero Vision on Windows.
[03:28] <Broam> dabbill: How are you connecting the IDE drive?
[03:28] <pau2> Broam: nothing that I know of
[03:28] <dabbill> straight to the mobo
[03:29] <Broam> pau2: there was an intel card patch recently.  It can help narrow down things to just linux apps.
[03:29] <Some_Person> Scunizi: heh, i forgot about google linux
[03:29] <Broam> dabbill: Rule #1. Check the cable. Rule #2. No seriously, it's cheap and fails a lot. CHECK THE CABLE :)
[03:29] <pau2> Broam: but why would it work and then just break like this?
[03:29] <Broam> pau2: driver bug if you updated. Or something spontaneously failed in your hardware.
[03:30] <dabbill> Broam, lol i know all to well about that
[03:30] <Karsyth> configure: error: A working installation of Ogg Vorbis could not be found. obviously that means i need to get Ogg Vorbis, so i checked Synaptic and installed what seemed to be codecs for Ogg Vorbis but what im trying to compile is still saying i dont have it.
[03:30] <Karsyth> anyone point me in the right direction?
[03:30] <Broam> pau2: I'm sorta struggling to figure out why it would do that.
[03:30] <dabbill> Broam, its just hard to get to this case and i am being lazy =p
[03:30] <dabbill> Broam, BRB checking the cable lol
[03:30] <Broam> Karsyth: they should just come with.  But you might need the development headesr
[03:30] <LibertyShadow> Scunizi, this one is fun: http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
[03:30] <Broam> Karsyth: what program are you using ./configure on?
[03:31] <Karsyth> Broam: im trying to install stepmaniacvs
[03:31] <Karsyth> Broam: and im doing it from source because the other one is ghetto
[03:31] <Broam> Karsyth: You need the libvorbis development headers...
[03:31] <Karsyth> Broam: alright
[03:32] <Broam> Karsyth: you should be able to find them as something like libvorbis-dev
[03:32] <Broam> Karsyth: does stepmania use SDL?
[03:32] <Some_Person> Scunizi: hmmm, looks like there is no -VR support in Linux :-(
[03:32] <Karsyth> Broam: im not sure what SDL is, how would i find out if it does?
[03:32] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know about quakenet.org? Every channel I've joined there has lots of people, but no activity at all. Do I need a user/pass or something to see the activity in the channel? I'm very new to IRC.
[03:32] <Broam> Karsyth: if there's a version in the package repos, check its dependencies
[03:33] <spartan7> have a problem with my vid card mobile intel(r) GMA X3100 on ubuntu gusty can anyone help?
[03:33] <Broam> Lots of problems with intel chips today
[03:33] <Fishscene> Spartan, we will need to know what the problem is first <.<
[03:33] <Broam> MUS4SHIII: there's a lot mroe people herer than the ones who arer talking. They could just be idle
[03:33] <Spagbol> kubuntu desktop is gunna take up lots of space lol
[03:34] <MUS4SHIII> I guess so.
[03:34] <Broam> MUS4SHIII: it's kinda off topic, but check their mailing lists to see when they're most active
[03:34] <MUS4SHIII> anyone know anything about mythtvfs mounting in the fstab?
[03:34] <Broam> MUS4SHIII: this place doesn't rreally ever stop hopping
[03:34] <spartan7> cannot change any res or screen, no dual screen or extended desktop or advanced settings like fusion
[03:34] <Some_Person> Scunizi: looks like i'm forced to either use my scratched up -RWs or go to Windows :-(
[03:34] <MUS4SHIII> I've noticed
[03:34] <MUS4SHIII> lots of linux help needed I guess
[03:35] <nickrud> not counting the op spam
[03:35] <Fishscene> Spartan, you will need to probably manually edit the list of resolutions. For multi-monitor, I was only able to get it working by using a propriatery driver from my card's manufacturer
[03:35] <m1r> i am upgradeing to 7.10 from livecd and system ask me if i want change /etc/login.defs , should i accept ?
[03:36] <Broam> Some_Person: I wonder if DVD-VR is one of those standards that's locked down.
[03:36] <Broam> m1r: Give it a shot.
[03:36] <m1r> broam tnx
[03:36] <ythe1300> Hi all
[03:36] <Broam> m1r: let me look at my file real quick
[03:36] <tems> Hey guys - I have determined that under windows my display driver is an "Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family" and it appears that is not one of the types on the xserver-xorg configuration
[03:36] <m1r> broam ok
[03:36] <spartan7> this is what i have found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3451249
[03:36] <tems> Any ideas on how to remedy that?  Some guy on the web had some joy typing :sudo apt-get install 915resolution xserver-xorg-video-intel.  didn't work for me though as it said no such package.  is there a way to put the driver on a cd maybe and transfer it over?
[03:36] <spartan7> will this still work?
[03:37] <Krozy> I just started using GPG.  What are some good practices regarding the private key in terms of storage and backup?  Should I keep it on my workstation, or on external media?
[03:37] <spartan7> we have the same prob terms:
[03:37] <Broam> m1r: if you didn't modify this file, go ahead and let it update
[03:37] <Fishscene> Without going too much into details here, it's worth a shot
[03:37] <Some_Person> Scunizi: locked down?
[03:37] <m1r> broam , i never touched it , i set change now
[03:37] <Broam> Krozy: To be honest there's a lot of talk about smart cards these days. too bad the readerrs are pricey
[03:37] <Broam> m1r: usually a good sign
[03:38] <ncfi1013> i cant get my ipod 3rd gen to mount on desktop, amarok to open, or get my bookmark links to open in konqueror
[03:38] <m1r> broam, still 2:40 to wait :)
[03:38] <MUS4SHIII> can anyone help me with mounting mythtvfs in my fstab?
[03:38] <spartan7> tems: this is the website I got to with somekinda info on our problem
[03:39] <spartan7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3451249
[03:39] <dabbill> Broam, Changed the IDE cable, and still bios seeing it as a 13gig.
[03:39] <tems> thanks mate!!
[03:39] <ncfi1013> PLEASE HELP?!
[03:39] <Broam> Krozy: the only thing I can ercommend is making a revocation certificate, putting it on some cheap USB thumb drive (floppy disk, etc.) and giving it to a trusted party (safe deposit box, lawyer)
[03:39] <Fishscene> Spartan, did you try that?
[03:39] <Broam> ncfi1013: you have 3 problems. :)
[03:39] <RedHeron> ncfi1013:  What have you found on Google?
[03:39] <tems> If you were in the same room, I'd offer you some of this joint, but you'll have to make-do with thanks
[03:39] <Krozy> Broam: So if I had the resources, you'd recommend setting up smart cards?  Wouldn't I need a reader, or a portable one to decrypt from each machine I use?
[03:40] <Spagbol> does anyone know how to defrag in ubuntu
[03:40] <Broam> Krozy: Yes. You would need a reader at each machine, with drivers.
[03:40] <Fishscene> Spagbol, why?
[03:40] <jrib> Spagbol: you don't
[03:40] <dooley> lol