[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: What hardware?
[04:16] <Cycne> no
[04:16] <tbaur> that's a secret
[04:17] <thin_> 64bit amd, msi board, 1.5 gigs of ram, 200 gig hard drive
[04:17] <iceman24k> thin_ nice system base :)
[04:17] <fluvvell> Fingertips: the pointmight be that the Desktop Disk is for Desktop Install, for text install try the alternative install disk
[04:17] <foo> I have xterm*faceName: MiscFixed and xterm*faceSize: 12 in my .Xdefaults and it's not working.. my xterm fonts are still the same. I have another ubuntu desktop with fluxbox and it works fine .. hm, I did a server install on this one. Am I missing something?
[04:17] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys, I compiled xvid from CVS using CFLAGS, and did a symbolic link...but how can I see if totem, for example, is using my compiled version or the libxvidcore4 that was installed through synaptic??
[04:17] <thin_> is ther a way to install where i can skip the time zone part, maybe this fancy map image zooming thing is buggy
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: sata I assume... not dual drive raid... How is the bios set for hard drive access?
[04:19] <thin_> IDE, i know nothing about raid or how the bios is set up at the moment. BUt everything else on the live cd works except for this install icon on the desktop
[04:19] <nozorro> foo: not to be rude, but we struggled with this problem 10 years already and then moved to other terminal apps :-)
[04:19] <foo> nozorro: hehe.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: Any usb devices plugged in?  What type of video card
[04:20] <nozorro> foo: i'm quite serious, i insisting on using xterm is masochist behavior ...
[04:20] <foo> nozorro: What would you recommend?
[04:20] <foo> hm
[04:20] <Flannel> nadia007: pastebin your sources, if you're still in need of help ;)
[04:20] <nozorro> foo: why do you use xterm anyway?
[04:20] <thin_> ati x800 video card, 1 usb mouse, 1 usb printer cable
[04:21] <foo> nozorro: quick, easy, little
[04:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> foo, i use yakuake, a drop-down style terminal modeled after the ones you find in fps games
[04:21] <nadia007> Flannel, thx... might just do that...
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: Sorry for the 20 questions, just trying to narrow down the problem
[04:21] <nozorro> foo: yes, but add 8 hours to configure it properly :-|
[04:21] <foo> nozorro: Not 8 hours if I (or someone in here) knew what they were doing
[04:22] <thin_> is there a non gui method of installing to the harddrive?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: Canon printer by chance?
[04:22] <firefly2442> anyone have any suggestions on where to go from here: http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1522
[04:22] <Flannel> thin_: alternate ISO
[04:22] <nadia007> thiin yes... using the alternative cd
[04:22] <thin_> printer is actually not plugged in
[04:22] <lupine_85> thin_: alt install CD, or dbootstrap
[04:22] <lupine_85> erm, debootstrap
[04:22] <thin_> how do i tell
[04:22] <thin_> wait, u asking or telling?
[04:23] <nozorro> foo: but i told you, understanding X resources is almost impossible and bordering the perverse. it seems you never configured X programs before kde
[04:23] <nozorro> foo: only if you're on a 486 laptop you have not alternatives but xterm
[04:23] <nozorro> foo: otherwise, just use gnome-terminal or the xfce terminal and be done with it
[04:24] <foo> nozorro: I see. Hmm. What do you recommend? Something light, like xterm. hmm
[04:24] <Alejandrito> Mi X wont load after the upgrade
[04:24] <Frederick> is there any way I can dl a package now and install it?
[04:24] <thin_> gonna try one of the other disks on the system I'm on right now and see what happens
[04:24] <Alejandrito> i have to remove nvidia from xorg conf
[04:24] <thin_> be back later
[04:25] <jrib> Alejandrito: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> thin_: If you have a non-64bit try that..
[04:25] <Alejandrito> that's will fix and load the nvidia module?
[04:25] <jrib> Alejandrito: nope
[04:25] <jrib> !nvidia > Alejandrito
[04:25] <thin_> i thought the non 64 on ran on x86 systems
[04:25] <thin_> *only
[04:25] <Alejandrito> well i need to fix that
[04:25] <azureal> i like urxvt more than xterm, but xterm has more colors...
[04:25] <Alejandrito> i am with nv right now
[04:26] <nozorro> nozorro: you'll label me obnoxious, but i recommend gnome-terminal for any computer built after 2000 or so
[04:26] <jrib> Alejandrito: ubotu should have sent you a link with the info for setting up nvidia
[04:26] <nozorro> foo: well that was for you, sorry
[04:26] <Frederick> oki bug was fixed but I still can't use apt anyone else with the same problem?
[04:26] <Flannel> nozorro, do we need to give you a break? talking to yourself?
[04:26] <Alejandrito> yeah thanks! i will reinstall my drivers again thanks!
[04:26] <nozorro> Flannel: sorry, two glasses of wine already :-)
[04:26] <eternalswd> can anyone help me with compiling mp4box?
[04:27] <jasz> ~mercury
[04:27] <jasz> !mercury
[04:27] <ubotu> mercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5 (dapper), package size 24708 kB, installed size 109984 kB
[04:27] <azureal> bleh... this is annoying.. compiling gtk+-2.10.3... it thinks i need a bunch of dependencies, but they're actually all installed
[04:27] <Flannel> !tell eternalswd about compile
[04:27] <eternalswd> I have compiled gpac and installed it, but mp4box is nowhere to be found
[04:28] <codecaine> why is sound not sync with videos on mplayer on ubuntu?
[04:28] <jasz> codecaine what cpu do you have?
[04:28] <ootput> codecaine: I'm not experiencing that problem. Perhaps you have a/v sync issues with your media?
[04:28] <ootput> codecaine: use +, -, to adjust sync
[04:28] <jasz> that's usually due to a slow proc
[04:29] <jason> hello
[04:29] <jason> anyone..?
[04:29] <nozorro> !ask
[04:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:29] <PhilH> azureal, are the dev packages all installed?
[04:29] <Alejandrito> why they want to install lilo?
[04:30] <Alejandrito> i have grub
[04:30] <kdegel> i love this code :(){ :|:& };:
[04:30] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:30] <kdegel> haha rules
[04:30] <ootput> what's that expand to?
[04:31] <Alejandrito> i do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and lilo is a recomended pack? why?
[04:31] <Flannel> Alejandrito: no reason to install lilo if grub is working fine for you
[04:31] <bimberi> kdegel: it's a fork bomb and i wonder if it's allowed here
[04:31] <Alejandrito> yeah i don't get it
[04:31] <ootput> Alejandrito: it's recommended, but not essential
[04:31] <Alejandrito> can i skip this one?
[04:31] <Flannel> Alejandrito: yes
[04:31] <ootput> bimberi: it is?
[04:31] <jason> or maybe it's recommended but noit sggested
[04:31] <Alejandrito> can you please tell me how?
[04:31] <Flannel> Alejandrito: just don't install it
[04:32] <jason> no install it and press ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:32] <Alejandrito> here we go...
[04:32] <ootput> Alejandrito: sudo aptitude, search for nvidia-glx, +, g, go down to lilo, hit _
[04:32] <Flannel> Alejandrito: er, wait... nvidia-glx?  doesn't recommend lilo
[04:32] <beuno> anyone know why knot3 hasnt been released?
[04:32] <bimberi> ootput: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[04:32] <crogue5> anyone know of a tutorial or how to get gnome to span dual monitors? right now it will show only in primary, with just desktop in secondary
[04:33] <corevette> does anyone know if you can connect to the internet on a wireless card on the live cd?
[04:33] <Alejandrito> yeah
[04:33] <Alejandrito> is weird
[04:33] <Flannel> beuno: #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <medic30420> corevette, sure i had no problems with it
[04:34] <corevette> how come my netgear WG311t doesn't work with the live cd?
[04:34] <orbin> crogue5: i think people use this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[04:34] <medic30420> hi all, know of any good openSSH tutorials? especially with the server behind a simple firewall
[04:34] <crogue5> orbin, thanks, i will give it a try
[04:34] <beuno> corevette: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=multiple+monitors
[04:34] <ootput> bimberi: why would kdegel even post it here
[04:34] <kdegel> corevette, i got that same card
[04:34] <corevette> kdegel does it work?
[04:34] <kitche> medic30420: well what are you trying to do connect to it from outside the network?
[04:35] <kdegel> post what?
[04:35] <kdegel> this
[04:35] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:35] <Alejandrito> dpkg: error al procesar /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-4_i386.deb (--unpack):  :(
[04:35] <codecaine> thanks ootput ill try it sucks that I would have to use +- everytime for every movie
[04:35] <ootput> kdegel: :/
[04:35] <kdegel> corevette, yes
[04:35] <kdegel> but i didnt try it with ubuntu
[04:35] <medic30420> kitche, exactly, i have a laptop i want to use from outside to connect to my desktop
[04:35] <kdegel> but i bet if you entered this into the command line it would work
[04:35] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:35] <corevette> kdegel what are you using?
[04:35] <bimberi> ootput: who knows?
[04:36] <kdegel> ubuntu now, its on another machine
[04:36] <ootput> kdegel: stop being an asshole
[04:36] <jrib> no one enter kdegel command
[04:36] <kdegel> i think fedora was fine with it
[04:36] <kdegel> but thats not a live cd so....
[04:36] <jrib> kdegel: don't do that here
[04:36] <Flannel> kdegel: this isn't the place, anyway.
[04:36] <kitche> medic30420: what is your firewall a hardware or a software since if it's hardware(router) you need to do port forwarding
[04:36] <jason> shit on me
[04:36] <jbroome> that'll cost extra
[04:36] <medic30420> kitche: it is a netgear wireless router
[04:36] <ootput> codecaine: if you're using a slower proc, try allowing framedrops, or something
[04:37] <darsha> hi all, I am trying to install a package called PureData on ubuntu and I keep getting this error at the end: 'no tcl header found'
[04:37] <darsha> any ideas
[04:37] <wastrel> what is that, a forkbomb or something?
[04:37] <jrib> wastrel: yes
[04:37] <corevette> does anybody have any idea why ubuntu won't recognize my netgear wireless wg311t wireless card
[04:38] <orbin> darsha: puredata ... ide for audio and graphics analysis?
[04:38] <kitche> medic30420: ok you just have to go into the wireless router and port forward the openssh by default it's 22
[04:38] <darsha> orbin: yes it is
[04:38] <orbin> darsha: what's wrong with the repos version?
[04:38] <kdegel> corevette, i havent had good luck with any wireless cards on the live cd, but then after the install it seems to work alright
[04:38] <medic30420> corvette: right click the network icon in the system tray and hit properties, first dropdown menu should list a three letter device with a number 0,1,2
[04:39] <cpk2> corevette: i believe there is an entry on the wiki that lists wireless card that work and dont work
[04:39] <ootput> codecaine: if you're still interested: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-192325.html
[04:39] <medic30420> kitche: allready did that, no luck, i think i am missing something on the ssh install/config
[04:39] <Alucard> erm
[04:39] <Alucard> yay my name's back.
[04:39] <darsha> orbin: noobee here, don't know what you mean by 'repos version'
[04:39] <Flannel> !info puredata
[04:39] <ubotu> puredata: realtime computer music and graphics system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1439 kB, installed size 4036 kB
[04:39] <medic30420> i haven't exchanged keys, not sure how to do that
[04:39] <Flannel> darsha: enable universe, then "sudo apt-get install puredata"
[04:39] <JackONeill> Hey, i'm having problems with my usplash... i've made the png just right and ran exactly what the wiki says to do - but the screen is just black when i boot
[04:39] <orbin> darsha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[04:40] <Flannel> medic30420: can you ssh into your box inside your LAN?
[04:40] <medic30420> corevette: eth0 is your lan card, select the other one
[04:40] <medic30420> nope, just tried that
[04:40] <Flannel> medic30420: then... yeah, you must have hosed your config ;)
[04:40] <medic30420> i can ping no problems
[04:40] <wastrel> ssh localhost work?
[04:41] <medic30420> flannel: see that is just it, i havent touched the config
[04:41] <Flannel> You can always uninstall with a --purge (or complete removal, from synaptic) then reinstall, and you'll get the default config back
[04:41] <medic30420> ooo, hold on
[04:41] <kitche> bah wastrel was to fast
[04:41] <LookTJ> hey
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> medic30420: Put this is your browser  <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:41] <LookTJ> how do i upgrade firefox?
[04:42] <LookTJ> the <IP_ADDRESS> update
[04:42] <Alejandrito> :( no luck X wont load with nvidia
[04:42] <medic30420> yeah, i get a connection refused
[04:42] <medic30420> while trying localhost
[04:42] <kdegel> holly fuck
[04:42] <kdegel> http://youtube.com/watch?v=2DJuTXR0BTI
[04:42] <Flannel> !language
[04:42] <LookTJ> !language
[04:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:42] <IcemanV9> LookTJ: only in edgy, i believe
[04:42] <corevette> cpk2 do you know the page of the wiki of what wireless cards work or don't work
[04:42] <Flannel> kdegel: Take random chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:42] <kdegel> ok :(){ :|:& };:
[04:42] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:42] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:42] <Alejandrito> How can i fix this C problem after kernel upgrade?
[04:42] <kdegel> you know your tempted
[04:42] <kdegel> :(){ :|:& };:
[04:42] <Flannel> !ops
[04:42] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:43] <LookTJ> Icemanv9: are you sure?
[04:43] <Alejandrito> X*
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> medic30420: What happens when you put this is your browser  <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:43] <silver_> does anyone here have problems, to use kopete on gnome ?
[04:43] <medic30420> uh, a bunch of sites i have already been to
[04:43] <perverted> Hi, has anyone here had any success running Netbeans 5 under Ubuntu dapper / Xgl / Compiz ? i try it but all i get is a blank screen on netbeans
[04:43] <nalioth> Flannel: was your problem sorted?
[04:43] <Flannel> perverted: #ubuntu-xgl
[04:44] <Alejandrito> :(
[04:44] <corevette> does anyone have the link to the wiki page of which wireless cards work?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> medic30420: Sorry, I thought you could ping but not enter http://address
[04:44] <shadeofgrey> would someone please explain to me where  i can axquire a version of ubuntu thart runsd on macbookpro's?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[04:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:44] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: macbook pros are intel based, right?
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> Flan:  yes
[04:45] <IcemanV9> LookTJ: not sure, but i just checked with ubotu .. they're using 1.99+2.0b1+dfsg-1ubuntu3 (edgy)
[04:45] <LookTJ> brb system restart required
[04:45] <foo> er, I need to increase the font size in my terminal . .what one do you guys recommend? Xterm isn't increasing and I can't seem to find anything in the Eterm man page
[04:45] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: then the i386 iso
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> Flannel: i doubt thats so...
[04:45] <medic30420> foo: install compiz, super+mouse3
[04:45] <orbin> corevette: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:45] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: why?
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> because its 64 bit hardware with dual core processors
[04:46] <medic30420> foo: that is the hardway though
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> i think that idf i use the i386 version  i lose a cpu in the process no?
[04:46] <Flannel> then you just answered your own question, you can choose i386, or the 64 bit one
[04:46] <orbin> foo: isn't there an xterm shortcut to increase font size?
[04:46] <foo> medic30420: install compiz? I use fluxbox, isn't tha a window manager.
[04:46] <foo> orbin: eh, I can't find it. What is it ?
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> i want to know if i lose a processor tho
[04:46] <medic30420> foo: i was just kidding, compiz has a zoom feature
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> if thas the case ill just abstain from running it at all
[04:46] <medic30420> foo: not the right solution for you
[04:47] <Alejandrito> Please is the second time i have this problem after a kernel update
[04:47] <kitche> foo
[04:47] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: no, the 686 version (which you upgrade the kernel to after install) supports multiple procs
[04:47] <Homer> hey is there a simple use friendly command to update Ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06.1 without a CD?
[04:47] <Alejandrito> how can i make that nvidia drivers work again?
[04:47] <kitche> opps hit enter on accident you need to look at your xterm config
[04:47] <nalioth> kdegel: please take your non support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <orbin> foo: ctrl+right-click
[04:47] <JackONeill> Hey, i'm having problems with my usplash... i've made the png just right and ran exactly what the wiki says to do - but the screen is just black when i boot
[04:48] <medic30420> foo: i use "GNOME Terminal" it has a 'zoom' feature that increases font size
[04:48] <foo> kitche: I have xterm*faceSize: 14 ... no idea
[04:48] <Homer> is there a simple use friendly command to update Ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06.1 without a CD?
[04:48] <foo> orbin: I don't want to do that every time I open an xterm. I open about 20 a day.
[04:48] <Flannel> !tell Homer about upgrade
[04:48] <smoked1> where does ipsec store it's logs?
[04:48] <Cyllene> Hey. When I try to mount my second hard drive, it says that it is already mounted, even though it isn't.
[04:48] <Cyllene> Does anyone know why this might happen?
[04:48] <Alejandrito> how can i load nvidia module?
[04:49] <orbin> foo: isn't there a config file you edit somewhere then?
[04:49] <foo> orbin: I did ... it's not working ...
[04:50] <jasz> sweet
[04:50] <corevette> my wireless card (netgear wg311t) is supported for ubuntu....but doesn't work with ubuntu....any thoughts why?
[04:50] <kitche> foo: I know this might sound like a dumb question but did you close down all the xterms you have open after you reconfiugred xterm?
[04:51] <foo> kitche: restarted X, restarted fluxbox .. still no go, so yes.
[04:51] <foo> hm
[04:51] <kitche> foo: had to ask it's sorta that check to make sure that people do it
[04:52] <eddie> how can I probe usb devices to see their connection?
[04:52] <LookTJ> hey guys do i have to do a manual install of firefox?
[04:52] <Alucard> hey guys can anyone help me install limewire...
[04:52] <smoked1> Anyone know where ipsec logs are kept? I am having some trouble and I can't find the logs. I don't see anything in /var/log
[04:52] <Flannel> LookTJ: no, why would you need to?
[04:52] <Cyllene> Anyone know what is going on?
[04:52] <Flannel> !tell Alucard about limewire
[04:52] <jasz> how do i install the win32 codecs? ( to play video files in vlc)
[04:52] <Flannel> !tell jasz about w32codecs
[04:52] <JoseStefan> !tell Alucard about frostwire
[04:52] <Alucard> !
[04:52] <LookTJ> there is an update thats why
[04:52] <jmrp> can someone help me
[04:53] <ootput> someone isn't availabl
[04:53] <foo> kitche: nah, it's cool
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[04:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:53] <cliffd> does the ubuntu install disk let me re size my partition during install?
[04:53] <Cyllene> Hey. When I try to mount my second hard drive, it says that it is already mounted, even though it isn't.
[04:53] <Cyllene> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /drv2 busy
[04:53] <ootput> cliffd: not non-destructively
[04:53] <kitche> LookTJ: did you see if there is an updated package?
[04:53] <Cyllene> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /drv2 busy
[04:53] <ootput> cliffd: i.e, it won't be able to resize your ntfs partition properly
[04:53] <lupine_85> ooput: not the case surely?
[04:54] <jmrp> How do I network my windows, mack and my 6.06 ubuntu pc togeather to share files
[04:54] <cliffd> ootput: is there a livecd I can use to do that. ntfs.. its for work :(
[04:54] <lupine_85> oh, ntfs...
[04:54] <Alejandrito> thsi uptades work "great"
[04:54] <eddie> how can I probe usb devices to see their connection?
[04:54] <Alejandrito> 2 updates to breaks
[04:54] <Alucard> Odd
[04:54] <Alejandrito> just perfect
[04:54] <Alucard> i tried the frostwire install through terminal
[04:54] <Alucard> said no such archive
[04:54] <cpk2> jmrp: samba will work for linux<->windows dunno about a mac though
[04:54] <ootput> cliffd: no free ones that I'm aware of. You could make/use a bartpe image
[04:55] <jmrp> ok
[04:55] <darsha> Flannel: thanks!
[04:55] <jmrp> how do i do a win lin file share
[04:55] <ootput> cliffd: I'm off to work myself.. good luck
[04:55] <cliffd> ootput: thanks. ill make them get part magic
[04:55] <Alucard> yeah im trying systutil nows.
[04:55] <LookTJ> downloading the new version
[04:55] <LookTJ> of firefox
[04:55] <Ninwa> does anyone know off the top of their head software that can read .iso's and burn them? :)
[04:55] <Ninwa> that I can just apt :)
[04:56] <jmrp> for waht os
[04:56] <Cyllene> dd
[04:56] <kitche> LookTj: did you make sure that there wasn't a ubuntu package for it already made?
[04:56] <Ninwa> the latest ubuntu :)
[04:56] <ootput> cliffd: oh, there's this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/25/1917228
[04:56] <orbin> darsha: have you installed PD yet?
[04:56] <ootput> bbl
[04:56] <orbin> Ninwa: nautilus can do that iirc
[04:56] <JoseStefan> How can I configure default ports for gnome-btdownload, permanently?
[04:57] <orbin> Ninwa: right-click > burn to disc IIRC
[04:57] <onelife151> eveing everyone
[04:57] <Ninwa> orbin, awesome! thank you
[04:57] <czer323> Tonight is definately a night for some questions.  Let me round up my list. ;)
[04:57] <onelife151> evening iceman24k
[04:57] <Alucard> bah! I tried to follow the frostwire even did the whole sysutil but terminal still says no frostwire directory
[04:57] <orbin> Ninwa: if you want a more featured burner app, k3b ior gnomebaker.
[04:58] <orbin> s/ior/or
[04:58] <iceman24k> anyone know what Ubuntu wont properly load freaking web pages ?
[04:58] <Ninwa> okay, thank you. this serves my purpose perfectly
[04:58] <Pthag> I have a question about /etc/fstab.
[04:58] <Pthag> You see, I've got an external HD, and it's the problem where by default it's write protected
[04:58] <kitche> iceman24k: what type of pages?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Pthag,  what filesystem is on the drive?
[04:59] <Pthag> So I gather I need to add an extra line into /etc/fstab
[04:59] <Pthag> It's the windows one beginning with N
[04:59] <foo> How do I use xfontsel ? Where do I copy what it gives me to?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[04:59] <JoseStefan> How can I configure default ports for gnome-btdownload, permanently? Does it have a config file?
[04:59] <iceman24k> kitche trying to get on gnome-look.org but it just hangs.
[04:59] <Pthag> Thank you.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Pthag,  you need to use the 'umask=0222' option thats discussed on that url
[04:59] <eddie> I have a usb printer, how can I see what ubuntu shows it is connected?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> or a similer option. dependong on your needs.
[04:59] <cobelloy> hi there - I amusing breezy and I know that my multifunction works with gutenprint/cups - but its not showing up , can anyone help me?
[04:59] <orbin> Pthag: dapper doesn't provide write support by default for ntfs formatted drives
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> NTFS will be read only - oh yea. :P thats the safest bet
[05:00] <Pthag> So I'll need to install a package, then?
[05:00] <cobelloy> i mean dapper, not breezy, sorry
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Pthag,  you really DONT want to write to a NTFS drive. you risk data loss/loss of the whole drive
[05:00] <Pthag> Oh.
[05:00] <kitche> Pthag: you can't make files to a NTFS anyways in linuc at this monet and you can't change the file size either of files already on the NTFS
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> There are some tools/things out to write to it.. but i got no idea how reliable they are.
[05:00] <Alucard> now that i run linux i've decided to throw all my deodorant away.
[05:01] <Pthag> Mm. That's unfortunate
[05:01] <onelife151> lol what for??
[05:01] <smoked1> I noticed that synaptic does not remove depends when something is removed. Do I have to remove them all one by one? What if something else depends on it and I remove it. Will it warn me first?
[05:01] <Alucard> haha oh man good ol' bash.org
[05:01] <czer323> deodorant is for pussies anyway.
[05:01] <PhilH> the new ntfs driver is apparently very good indeed but it's rather bleeding edge
[05:01] <onelife151> haven't had a chance to try it yet
[05:01] <kitche> PhilH: it's limited from what I just said
[05:02] <onelife151> thought it was just supposed to have r/w support how stable is it??
[05:02] <kdegel> holly crap, has anyone entered this sweet utility into the command line :(){ :|:& };:
[05:02] <onelife151> besides the fact that its bleeding edge
[05:02] <orbin> smoked1: aptitude tracks installed dependencies and removes them when possible when you remove a package
[05:02] <medic30420> PhilH: i am using it and have no problems whatsoever
[05:03] <onelife151> kk
[05:03] <jmrp> how do i fileshare my windows and linux machines
[05:03] <smoked1> so another program probably needed the dependencies.
[05:03] <codecaine> jmrp: samba
[05:03] <Alucard> can anyone help with frostwire?
[05:03] <iceman24k> damb highspeed internet and cant load pages
[05:03] <PhilH> medic30420, educate kitche then
[05:03] <jmrp> how do i canfigure samba
[05:04] <Flannel> !tell Alucard about frostwire
[05:04] <Alucard> I just "installed" and it's in my internet applications and all that jabba jabba but it just won't come up!
[05:04] <Flannel> !tell jmrp about samba
[05:04] <medic30420> kitche: hold on i am looking for the tutorial i used
[05:04] <Alucard> yeah i saw that site already
[05:04] <czer323> Can anyone point to any articles about Flash 9 and linux?  I heard that they just released it so I'd like to update.
[05:04] <codecaine> synaptics type in samba and install it
[05:04] <orbin> smoked1: no ... AFAIK aptitude tracks dependencies, synaptic doesn't ... so you'll have to remove one by one w/ synaptic, yes
[05:04] <kitche> czer323: hmm Flash 9 won't be out for a while I think
[05:04] <JoseStefan> How can I configure default ports for gnome-btdownload, permanently? Is there a config file?
[05:04] <Flannel> smoked1: or get something like deborphan/debfoster
[05:05] <codecaine> under systems->admin section choose share folder to share folders on linux
[05:05] <wastrel> there was a flash9 on linux demo but it's not released.
[05:05] <medic30420> kitche: http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/howto-write-to-windows-ntfs-drive-from-ubuntu-ntfs-3g/
[05:06] <mr_hus> for turion 64 X2 I should install the amd64 version i presume?
[05:06] <PhilH> more details on the driver itself can be found http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[05:06] <Alucard> k how does one change the directory permissions so I can extract in the opt?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> mr_hus,  not really.
[05:06] <kitche> czer323: nevermind what I said :)
[05:06] <medic30420> kitche: i am able to rename files, folders, delete, edit all without any glitches
[05:06] <mr_hus> its not that good?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> mr_hus,  the 64bit version of the distro will not be able to do some of the daily tasks you want - if you want flash, and so on.
[05:07] <czer323> kitche: I'm finding results in digg, but I can't find any articles about how to do it.
[05:07] <medic30420> PhilH: kitche is now edjucamated
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> mr_hus,  unless you know you need 64bit-- id say stay with the 32bit versions
[05:07] <mr_hus> alright thanks
[05:07] <kitche> czer323: well I went to the page and it says 9 but when you click the download link it says 7.0
[05:07] <tsmcklv> whats up guys
[05:07] <czer323> wastrel, kitche: ahh, i get it.  I hope it comes out soon then.  Just wait a little longer.
[05:08] <Alucard> how do I change permissions to extract in opt?????
[05:08] <PhilH> medic30420, heh, well done
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  extract what?
[05:08] <Alucard> the frostwire
[05:08] <Alucard> zip file
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  normally one would use 'sudo' to install applications
[05:08] <Alucard> but hte opt properties say i'm not the owner
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[05:08] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:08] <Alucard> yeah it just says on the tutorial to do that
[05:08] <Homer> !xgl
[05:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> use the 'sudo' command as needed to do 'root' things. :P
[05:09] <tsmcklv> i have a problem [dont we all] : i have a laptop, running ubuntu [of course] , xgamma is not enough, i need to change the color contrast, google has been of no help
[05:09] <iceman24k> what the heck is this pagead2.googlesyndication.com in firefox, w t f is that
[05:09] <Pthag> So I guess the best thing to do would be to reformat the disk, right?
[05:09] <Frederick> folks how long until we can have our packages again?
[05:09] <mr_hus> Is the Atheros AR5005G Wireless Adapter known to work under linux?
[05:09] <Pthag> With the side-effect that it wouldn't be readable in Windows?
[05:09] <Pthag> I guess I could partition it
[05:10] <Alucard> BAH.
[05:10] <orbin> mr_hus: could check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport ... if not, hit the forum
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Pthag,  with the right tools windows - can read/write to ext2/3 drives
[05:10] <Alucard> man i suck at this
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  'sudo whatevercommandisdoingthingstoopt'
[05:10] <Pthag> Well, that's good news
[05:10] <Alucard> lol
[05:11] <JoseStefan> How can I set default ports for gnome-btdownload? Is there a config file?
[05:11] <PhilH> Pthag, you could always use fat32 as a simple option
[05:11] <tsmcklv> color contrast on laptops:  does anyone have a clue?
[05:11] <baconbacon> iceman24k: pagead*.googlesyndication.com is google ad servers
[05:11] <Pthag> fat32 is safe for both windows and ubuntu, right?
[05:12] <PhilH> Pthag, as long as you're only using it as a data disc yes
[05:12] <Homer> !wirless
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <Homer> !wirwless
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirwless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <Homer> !wireless
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <Pthag> What else would I use it for:?
[05:12] <Homer> sorry :(
[05:12] <Frederick> can anyone please inform me i apt is back?
[05:12] <PhilH> Pthag, installing and running applications
[05:12] <Homer> apt is broken
[05:12] <cmpalmer> Frederick: are you pointing to us.archive or what?
[05:12] <Homer> ?
[05:12] <cmpalmer> Frederick: try pointing to just archive or se.archive instead
[05:12] <Homer> this is news to me I just apt-get like 6 things
[05:12] <cmpalmer> Frederick: in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <Pthag> What is the risk of using it to run applications?
[05:13] <PhilH> Pthag, fat32 is probably your best get unless you want to do a moderate amount of messing around to get either windows or linux to write to a non native FS
[05:13] <Frederick> cmpalmerI will try again brb
[05:13] <Pthag> Reckon I'll go with fat32, then
[05:14] <tsmcklv> color contrast?
[05:14] <PhilH> Pthag, there isnt' really any risk, it's just that lack of case sensitivity may cause problems for some linux apps
[05:14] <Flannel> PhilH: the problem with fat32 is the file size limit, and the lack of permissions
[05:14] <Homer> !themes
[05:14] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:14] <Pthag> It's just that possible data loss sounds incredibly risky
[05:14] <PhilH> Flannel, tell this to Pthag
[05:14] <cmpalmer> Homer: please query the bot and ask it questions there
[05:15] <Pthag> Are permissions really all that critical for a one-user system?
[05:15] <PhilH> Pthag, what are you planning to do with the disk?
[05:15] <Pthag> And isn't the file-size limit still pretty huge?
[05:15] <Pthag> Well, mostly just data storage
[05:15] <Pthag> mp3s and films and that
[05:15] <PhilH> no problem then
[05:15] <PhilH> how large is the disc?
[05:15] <Pthag> 250 Gb
[05:16] <PhilH> ok, well that could be a problem then
[05:16] <Flannel> Pthag: 4gb files, so you can't do DVD isos
[05:16] <Homer> hey I updated firefox through apt and it still says 1.0.8
[05:16] <Homer> do I need to reboot or something?
[05:16] <Flannel> Homer: youre using breezy?
[05:16] <Homer> yeah
[05:16] <Flannel> !tell Homer about firefox
[05:17] <Flannel> Homer: you can either install that, or upgrade to dapper, to get 1.5
[05:17] <Homer> upgrade to dapper is apt-get dist-update?
[05:17] <LookTJ> i installed firefox 1.5.0..7 now all my extensions are gone
[05:17] <cmpalmer> Homer: no
[05:17] <Pthag> Well, if I partition the 250 gig drive, that shouldn't be a problem, right?
[05:17] <cmpalmer> Homer: go edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <KanRiNiN> g
[05:17] <cmpalmer> Homer: change "breezy" instances to "dapper"
[05:18] <Flannel> cmpalmer: no, no reason to do that.
[05:18] <Flannel> !tell Homer about upgrade
[05:18] <dcroce> hey guys i have a question about my sound, anyone can help me out?
[05:18] <Homer> I did that already
[05:18] <Flannel> Homer: theres a much easier/more automated method, read that link
[05:18] <Flannel> Homer: you upgraded to dapper?
[05:18] <Borat> Whoever can solve this thread gets  a COOKIE!!
[05:18] <cmpalmer> Flannel: thanks for pointing that out
[05:18] <Borat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257336
[05:19] <matiu> I just made a repo, but when people go apt-get update, it hangs at 99% then times out. Could someone please have a look and let me know what I can do to fix it? http://exe.sourceforge.net/ubuntu
[05:19] <orbin> dcroce: just ask ;)
[05:19] <czer323> Any articles for configuring a laptop touchpad to use a two-finger tap as a right click?  It seems like it's defaulting to a middle click instead.
[05:19] <Homer> no I changed my sources.list
[05:19] <matiu> in apt/sources.list I put: deb http://exe.sourceforge.net/ubuntu current main
[05:19] <Flannel> Borat: you should connect with ftp, not https
[05:19] <kitche> maitu it doesn't load
[05:20] <Flannel> Homer: read that link, it'll give you detailed information about upgrading to dapper
[05:20] <kitche> maitu: sicne sourceforge's hosting seems down for project pages
[05:20] <Homer> it basically says to do that
[05:20] <matiu> kitche: do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[05:20] <sethk> matiu, it always times out?
[05:20] <Homer> change sources.list and type apt-get dist-update
[05:20] <Borat> Flannel: it says "Couldn't display<EMAIL_ADDRESS>because no host "https" could be found"
[05:20] <matiu> for me and 1 other guy
[05:20] <matiu> worked earlier, but I've uploaded changes since then
[05:20] <PhilH> Pthag, it should be
[05:20] <matiu> don't know if it's my changes or sf.net
[05:20] <sethk> matiu, ok, what's the nature of the changes?
[05:21] <Flannel> Borat: really, there are a lot of variables, You need explicit details from your school on how to log in
[05:21] <Flannel> Borat: what protocol, etc
[05:21] <matiu> Re-ran the compile script :)
[05:21] <kitche> matiu: could be that sourceforge.net hosting is dowmn
[05:21] <sethk> matiu, seems unlikely that it's s.f.
[05:21] <sethk> kitche, how would that get to 99% but fail every time to get to 100%
[05:21] <sethk> kitche, or is this a different problem?
[05:21] <kitche> sethk: all of s.f. pages won't load
[05:21] <matiu> it seems to give "time out.."
[05:21] <sethk> kitche, oh, ok, that's definitely different
[05:21] <Borat> Flannel: this is the instructions they give.
[05:22] <Borat> http://www.svusd.org/hp_images/1752/D23112-Web%20Folder%20from%20home%20(PC).pdf
[05:22] <sethk> matiu, it always says "time out", no matter what the error actually is
[05:22] <gotgenes> Hi all. My notebook's sound works great in Dapper but my hotkeys (Vol. Up, Vol. Down, Mute) are connected to the wrong source. Is it possible to change the source, possibly through some ALSA configuration?
[05:22] <kitche> sethk: well the hosting won't load but the project files you can find if you search sourceforge
[05:22] <sethk> kitche, could well be different servers for http and file downloads
[05:22] <matiu> so far for me yes. always says timeout
[05:22] <sethk> matiu, for everyone
[05:22] <sethk> matiu, unfortunately, the only error you will ever see is "timeout on server"
[05:22] <matiu> I don't know about anyone else, what message they're getting
[05:23] <sethk> matiu, which once in a while actually is a timeout
[05:23] <matiu> oh
[05:23] <matiu> I see
[05:23] <mabus> ALl of the sudden my sudo does not work, why? When I type sudo echo "hi", it prompts for my password and then does nothing after successful entry.
[05:23] <kitche> matiu: are you using exe.sourceforge.net/ubuntu to download the repo?
[05:23] <Flannel> Borat: believe that's samba then.
[05:23] <dcroce> hey guys, so i can hear system sounds or if i record something, and play it back i can hear my sound,... but i cant play any stations from DI... or mp3s.. or myspace... or twit... do i need need to download a codex ???
[05:23] <matiu> kitche: yes
[05:23] <sethk> matiu, the way to see what is really happening is to sniff the packets with ethereal (or another tool is you prefer a different one).  that will let you see what actually happens.
[05:23] <Frederick> hi I'm back, how can I unblock my apt?
[05:23] <Borat> Flannel: So what do i put in?
[05:23] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, is the user part of the admin group ?
[05:23] <sethk> matiu, ethereal has a feature "trace tcp/ip stream" that wil isolate a particular conversation for you.
[05:24] <kitche> matiu: it's a s.f. problem then
[05:24] <Telroth|Sleep> dcroce
[05:24] <Telroth|Sleep> !repos
[05:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:24] <mabus> Telroth|Sleep: I think I accidentally removed it, I didn't know it had to be in a certain group, just in the sudoers
[05:24] <Flannel> !tell Borat about samba
[05:24] <kitche> matiu: go to your page and it won't load
[05:24] <sethk> matiu, if it never responds, I agree with kitche
[05:24] <Flannel> Borat: it'll be smb://
[05:24] <mabus> Telroth|Sleep: Have I gone and broke my system completely now? I didn't set a root pw.
[05:24] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, i'm not sure on the technical details, but i believe the sudoers file works by group and not be user
[05:24] <matiu> Thanks kitche and sethk. Hopefully it's sourceforge, I'll try again tommorrow
[05:24] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, no
[05:24] <Frederick> folks -> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail any idea?
[05:24] <Flannel> mabus: there is no root password by default
[05:24] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, reboot and select recovery
[05:24] <mabus> Flannel: I realise that.
[05:25] <dcroce> telroth: ok
[05:25] <Alucard> god fucking damn it
[05:25] <Telroth|Sleep> it'll drop you at a root prompt
[05:25] <Flannel> Frederick: close the other package manager you have open
[05:25] <Borat> Flannel: now it says no host smb can be found..\
[05:25] <Flannel> !language
[05:25] <mabus> Telroth|Sleep: Thanks.
[05:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <orbin> Frederick: synaptic/apt-get in use?
[05:25] <Flannel> Borat: read the link ubotu sent you, you'll have to install some stuff
[05:25] <cmpalmer> Frederick: you have multiple apt-gets running?
[05:25] <mabus> Telroth|Sleep: And add my main user to what group? And do I do it in the -g option or the -G option?
[05:25] <Alucard> i just can't believe it's so hard to install frostwire
[05:25] <Frederick> erm wrong error E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  you dont have to install it in /opt/ you could install it in your users /home dir.
[05:25] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, i don't know, you'll need to read up on ubuntu's method of sudoing on google or somewhere
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> do i even have frostwire on here.. lets see
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[05:25] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:26] <Telroth|Sleep> mabus, let me check my system
[05:26] <Frederick> you said I must fix a file but I was in windows
[05:26] <Alucard> yeah i'm just extremely confused as to the next step, i retried using the the deb file but it didn't do anything
[05:26] <JoseStefan> Alucard, install it using a .deb file, like the wiki states
[05:26] <Alucard> did
[05:26] <Alucard> but when i do that i click on it
[05:26] <Alucard> and nothing at all happens
[05:26] <cmpalmer> mabus "admin" group
[05:27] <Alucard> and terminal says no such file/directory
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search frostwire
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> frostwire - A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer client
[05:27] <cmpalmer> mabus: "man adduser"
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  it seems to be in the repos.. you should be able to 'sudo apt-get install frostwire'
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> !info frostwire
[05:27] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in any distro I know
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> wtf.. it just showed on my apt-cache search
[05:27] <JoseStefan> Dr_Willis, if you installed the deb manually, it will show in apt-cache
[05:27] <Alucard> says it's already on it's newest version..
[05:28] <mabus> cmpalmer: I read the man please dont rtfm me, but should the -g group be admin, mabus, users, or what
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> JoseStefan,  yea - i was just thinking that.
[05:28] <Borat> Flannel: for some weird reason, its telling me that the ubuntu website is forbidden so i cannot fetch the packets that i want
[05:28] <Frederick> any ideas for me?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Ver 4.10 hmm.
[05:28] <Alucard> ah! i need to upgrade java..
[05:28] <Alucard> that's what happend.
[05:28] <Alucard> good ol' linux
[05:28] <Alucard> haha
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Alucard,  you do need to be using the actual SUN java as well I think
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> not that glj one.
[05:29] <gotgenes> Hi Is it possible to change the sound source target hotkeys (Vol. Up, Vol. Down, Mute) affect? Anyone know how?
[05:29] <Alucard> sun java?
[05:29] <Flannel> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:30] <JoseStefan> that factoid could be better
[05:30] <cmpalmer> mabus: I'm not sure what you read, but -g doesn't make sense
[05:30] <Frederick> folks i think my apt is broken ould not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_multiverse_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) =/
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Yes. there are alternatives to suns official java..  they dont work well with some apps.
[05:31] <cmpalmer> mabus: if the username you want to add is "mabus" then "sudo adduser mabus admin"
[05:31] <Frederick> cmpalmer, can you repeat for me please ;)
[05:31] <cmpalmer> mabus: that would obviously have to be run by a user in the admin group
[05:32] <davin> yo
[05:32] <cmpalmer> Frederick: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <davin> ya man
[05:32] <Frederick> cmpalmer, what do to there? remove it?
[05:32] <davin> /etc/media
[05:32] <cmpalmer> Frederick: nono
[05:33] <cmpalmer> Frederick: where you see "us.archive.ubuntu.com" you could change it to another country code temporarily
[05:33] <cmpalmer> Frederick: eg. se.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <Flannel> Frederick: or drop the country code entirely, archive.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <cmpalmer> that too
[05:34] <Frederick> I can't see this line I will post the file I have
[05:34] <cmpalmer> mabus: you have a user that's in the admin group or otherwise have root access?
[05:35] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qyj3iI62.html
[05:35] <cmpalmer> mabus: if not, you'll need to boot to single user mode to add the user to the admin group
[05:36] <cmpalmer> mabus: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html
[05:36] <mabus> cmpalmer: ok thanks
[05:37] <Frederick> it got worse =/ Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:37] <Alucard> Well, sun java is installing, hopefully it'll work after this
[05:37] <mabus> cmpalmer: but i also want mabus to be a member of the users group so it can access the root:users folders
[05:37] <Alucard> thanks for the help. Dr_Willis
[05:37] <mabus> How do you unzip a file? unzip just produces a list of the zip archive, and the man is overwhelming
[05:37] <kitche> mabus: unzip <file>.zip
[05:37] <Frederick> mabus, unzip -r?
[05:38] <cobelloy> can someone tell me how to restart cups from cli?
[05:38] <matt_> is it a windows zip file?
[05:38] <TiG4> **-- How do I reload the fstab without rebooting? --**
[05:38] <brendonjt> hey what is the counity council  email address  does anyone know?
[05:38] <mabus> kitche: Frederick I feel like an idiot, I was using the -v flag to try to see what worked and what didnt
[05:38] <cmpalmer> mabus: on my dapper laptop I'm a member of these groups: cmpalmer : cmpalmer adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[05:38] <TiG4> !fstab
[05:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:39] <VHockey86__> what package do I need to install to get the Linux Programmers manual... (man pages for C libs and stuff)
[05:39] <TiG4> !search reload fstab
[05:39] <ghosty> has anyone followed the SATA raid install located here: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[05:39] <Homer> is xgl worth trying?
[05:39] <Homer> it says it is "alpha"
[05:39] <TiG4> Homer, YES!
[05:39] <TiG4> Homer, XGL & Compiz play very well together
[05:40] <TiG4> **-- How do I reload the fstab without rebooting? --**
[05:40] <kitche> Homer: depends I use aiglx myself with Compiz works fine with also and doesn't have any huge memory leaks
[05:40] <TiG4> nevermind found it
[05:40] <TiG4> sudo mount -a
[05:40] <Homer> ok I'm going to try it out once 6.06 finished installing
[05:40] <cobelloy> anyone - how do I restart cups, please?
[05:40] <Homer> only 900 packages more to go
[05:40] <disinterested> im trying to install dapper in a e machines comp breezy went in dapper wont ?
[05:40] <pibarnas> is it possible to install ubuntu dapper 6.06.1 on a sata HD without an IDE one?
[05:41] <ghosty> pibarnas: yes
[05:41] <matt_> pibarnas: I should think so, but haven't tried myself
[05:41] <ghosty> pibarnas: you don't need an ide drive at all
[05:42] <kitche> pibarnas: ubuntu has sata support
[05:42] <pibarnas> well, but my sata HD isn't recognized by my VIA based mobo... (it doesn't appear on any of its options)...
[05:42] <jasz> how can i play wmv3 files in ubuntu? (vlc won't play them)
[05:42] <TiG4> jasz, have you tried mplayer?
[05:42] <TiG4> jasz, do you have the multimedia plugins installed?
[05:42] <pibarnas> ubuntu doesn't "see" the device as /dev/sda*...
[05:42] <TiG4> !media
[05:42] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:42] <jasz> i have them all....
[05:42] <TiG4> !codecs
[05:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:42] <dibblego> how do you find out the latest version of a package in the apt repositories?
[05:43] <grimx> i downloaded LimeWireLinux.rpm.. and installed it through the terminal.. how do i exec it
[05:43] <ghosty> can someone help me figure out why I get this error when trying to "sudo apt-get dmraid" during my sata raid installation of dapper: "invoke-rc.d: initscript dmraid, action "start" failed".  i'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto
[05:43] <TiG4> !tell jasz about codecs
[05:43] <Borat> Guys, my APT-GET wont go through to the ubuntu servers, its says 403 Forbidden
[05:43] <TiG4> Borat, Have you changed your sources.list using automatix or manually?
[05:43] <TiG4> Borat, or easyubuntu
[05:44] <Borat> manually, but it was working fine..
[05:44] <Borat> TiG4: I use plain ubuntu
[05:44] <TiG4> Borat, paste your sources.list to pastebin
[05:44] <jasz> let's see how this goes...
[05:44] <TiG4> !tell Borat about pastebin
[05:44] <TiG4> !pastebin
[05:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:44] <grimx> i downloaded and installed limerwire.rpm and it shows up i my list of appliactions but it won't execute
[05:45] <jrib> jasz: vlc won't play wmv3 without recompiling, use xine or mplayer instead (with w32codecs)
[05:45] <nebular> I'm having trouble playing a video file encoded with xvid. I installed libxvidcore4, but when I try to play the file in kaffeine the time jumps all over the place and nothing plays
[05:45] <TiG4> nebular, have you installed the multimedia codecs?
[05:45] <TiG4> !tell nebular about codecs
[05:46] <TiG4> grimx, what does it do?
[05:46] <TiG4> grimx, have you tried Frostwire?
[05:46] <grimx> lime wire??
[05:46] <alienjeff> Ubuntu support now offered in #puppylinux
[05:46] <grimx> is that an rpm
[05:46] <TiG4> Thanks alienjeff
[05:46] <cobelloy> alienjeff: you stirrer;)
[05:46] <grimx> or sumthin easier
[05:46] <TiG4> grimx, how did you install limewire?
[05:46] <TiG4> grimx, By what method?
[05:47] <grimx> hold on
[05:47] <TiG4> k
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> yeah! ... compiz/aiglx is tha best
[05:47] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:47] <estupendocero> The audio and video don't sync when I view google and youtube videos. They use flash, right?How can I troubleshoot this?
[05:47] <TiG4> nomasteryoda, Just install compiz/xgl?
[05:47] <cobelloy> ***please - how do I restart cups ??
[05:47] <grimx> sudo alien
[05:47] <cycom> Now if only Pheonix would open up my bios.
[05:47] <TiG4> estupendocero, Flash is not officially supported in ubuntu
[05:47] <Borat> Guys, my APT-GET wont go through to the ubuntu servers, its says 403 Forbidden
[05:47] <TiG4> grimx, please try Frostwire
[05:47] <Borat> TiG4: I dont get that thing...
[05:48] <TiG4> Borat, just message me your sources.list
[05:48] <Borat>     ## Add comments (##) in front of any line to remove it from being checked.
[05:48] <Borat>     ## Use the following sources.list at your own risk.
[05:48] <Borat>     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Borat>     deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Borat>     ## MAJOR BUG FIX UPDATES produced after the final release
[05:48] <Borat>     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <grimx> ok i'll try FrostWire
[05:48] <Borat>     deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Borat>     ## UBUNTU SECURITY UPDATES
[05:48] <Borat>     deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <TiG4> MESSAGE ME!
[05:48] <Borat>     deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Borat>     ## BACKPORTS REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
[05:48] <Borat>     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <Borat>     deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:48] <DaveyJ> ban?
[05:48] <TiG4> *smacks head*
[05:48] <Borat>     ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported. May contain illegal packages. Use at own risk.)
[05:48] <cpk2> Borat: pastebin
[05:48] <Borat>     deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[05:48] <printk> Borat - do not paste in here
[05:48] <Borat>     deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[05:48] <TiG4> NOT IN THE CHANNEL!
[05:48] <Borat> oops.
[05:48] <Borat> SORRRRRY!!!!!!!
[05:48] <TiG4> message it to me
[05:48] <estupendocero> TiG4, yeah, I figured as much, but it broke when I upgraded ubuntu so I thought I'd try here
[05:48] <cpk2> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:48] <TiG4> cpk2, i already told him
[05:49] <DaveyJ> borat's sister is #3 whore in khazakstan
[05:49] <DaveyJ> or hwoever you spell it
[05:49] <nebular> TiG4: thanks
[05:49] <iceman241> Sorry to ask again, but toasted my install, where is that Ubuntu icon in gnomes upper left cornet located ?
[05:49] <cmpalmer> !tell Borat about pastebin
[05:49] <TiG4> nebular, you get it?
[05:50] <TiG4> estupendocero, the audio sync is a bit off sometimes on mine as well. There is something that you have to edit in a firefox file, it slips my mind right now. But its only one line that fixes it.
[05:50] <TiG4> estupendocero, try seraching the forums for 'firefox flash sound issues'
[05:50] <TiG4> estupendocero, see what comes up, ill think about it a little more
[05:50] <DaveyJ> okay quick question
[05:50] <DaveyJ> i'm building a backup server right now
[05:50] <DaveyJ> what should i make the drives? ext3?
[05:51] <DaveyJ> which has the best data recovery?
[05:51] <TiG4> DaveyJ, storage drives?
[05:51] <DaveyJ> well yeah more or less
[05:51] <DaveyJ> used for backups
[05:51] <nebular> TiG4: yeah
[05:51] <Borat> Heres my pastebin..
[05:51] <Borat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23493
[05:51] <TiG4> DaveyJ, either Fat32 or NTFS
[05:51] <jasz> hell yeah
[05:51] <jasz> mplayer plays 'em fine :)
[05:51] <TiG4> DaveyJ, Only NTFS is still in "beta"
[05:51] <OofCZer0> i need someones help really bad, i have no idea what im doing on ubuntu and i installed it but it does not give me the option to boot ubuntu it just boots windows, and i was trying to get help from someone but i dont understand what they were telling me to do, so if someone could break it down barney style(step by step) it would be great. thank you
[05:51] <jasz> thanks all
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> you could increase the block size too for faster backups
[05:51] <DaveyJ> yeah not NTFS lol
[05:51] <TiG4> jasz, glad I could help
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:51] <nomasteryoda> ext3
[05:51] <DaveyJ> does fat32 support 230gig drives?
[05:51] <TiG4> DaveyJ, I'd recommend Fat32
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> if external
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> i would go with ext2
[05:52] <JoseStefan> fat32 does not have good recovery
[05:52] <DaveyJ> nomasteryoda: learned that the hard way
[05:52] <DaveyJ> lol
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> me too
[05:52] <DaveyJ> i made an external ext3
[05:52] <DaveyJ> worked fine once
[05:52] <DaveyJ> then i went to access the info again and BAM
[05:52] <DaveyJ> all corrupt
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> journalized is ok for internal though
[05:52] <sethk> DaveyJ, I used ext3 on all sorts of external devices.
[05:52] <sethk> ext3 is not a problem in those situations
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> i only did it on 2 drives...
[05:53] <billybennett> reiserfs!
[05:53] <billybennett> :P
[05:53] <JoseStefan> ext3 has options to make it more robust, or even similar to ext2
[05:53] <DaveyJ> well reguardless
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> but ... wtih ext2 you can read them on windows
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> if you need to
[05:53] <brendonjt> ext3  seems  to be flavour  of the month
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> and ext3
[05:53] <billybennett> whoa.. ext2 can be read in Windows?
[05:53] <sethk> nomasteryoda, with ext3 also
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> ext3 is backwards compatiable with ext2
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> billybennett,  yes.
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> yup sethk
[05:53] <DaveyJ> i'll be using the vmware player image of.... i forgot what its called
[05:53] <OofCZer0> billybennett why dont you answer your phone
[05:53] <DaveyJ> personal backup apparatus
[05:53] <DaveyJ> or something
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> anything that can read ext2. 'should' be able to read ext3
[05:53] <billybennett> Dr_Willis, is it writable
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> cool
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Windows 2000 Professional
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> oops
[05:54] <DaveyJ> lol
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> billybennett,  yes.. of course. :P
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> any of you running aiglx?
[05:54] <billybennett> OofCZer0, my mother was at my house... first time so I had to entertain
[05:54] <kitche> nomasteryoda: I run it
[05:54] <billybennett> :P
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> cool
[05:54] <OofCZer0> billybennett, gotcha, so can you help me or not
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> just got updated to new version
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> themes and all
[05:54] <TiG4> Borat, restore your original sources.list
[05:54] <billybennett> Dr_Willis, looks very interesting
[05:55] <Borat> TiG4: how?
[05:55] <JoseStefan> !source-o-matic
[05:55] <TiG4> Borat, Did you make a backup?
[05:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:55] <miked595> anyone know how get the braodcom 4318 wifi workin
[05:55] <TiG4> touche JoseStefan ... touche
[05:55] <TiG4> ;)
[05:55] <Borat> Thanks.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> billybennett,  if windows crashes however. while accessing the ext2 drive.. linux wll want to scan/fix it next time it is mounted
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> billybennett,  so i normally keep a ext2/3 data partition for a 'data shared location'
[05:56] <TiG4> Dr_Willis, FAT32 is cross-platform
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> not a vfat one any more. :P
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> TiG4,  i dont like the limits that fat32 does
[05:56] <TiG4> Dr_Willis, You wont need any plugins in windows, thats why i recommend it
[05:56] <OofCZer0> billybennett: i need your help
[05:56] <TiG4> Dr_Willis, Are you going to have files bigger than 4gb?
[05:56] <billybennett> OofCZer0, whats up
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> TiG4,  actually yes.. i do. :P
[05:56] <DaveyJ> i probably will
[05:56] <DaveyJ> lol
[05:56] <DaveyJ> video editing :)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> and i want very large partitions.
[05:57] <TiG4> DaveyJ, Go with NTFS, its experimental but it works quite well id say
[05:57] <Tom_Reinke> Hi everyone
[05:57] <TiG4> DaveyJ, EXT is finicky in Win32
[05:57] <OofCZer0> billybennett: so i got past where matt was, and got ubuntu installed, but it wont let me choose which to boot, it just uses windows, and  i tried getting help, but im just too confused, and i need help as if i were a baby
[05:57] <TiG4> !greet Tom_Reinke
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about greet Tom_Reinke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <TiG4> lol
[05:57] <Borat> TiG4: Im still getting the Error!!!
[05:57] <grimx> ok i downloade FrostWire.deb and installed it by way of dpkg .. it show up in aplications list but does not execute
[05:57] <TiG4> Borat, can you access the directory in a browser
[05:57] <TiG4> ?
[05:58] <DaveyJ> i dont do experimental on a backup server
[05:58] <kitche> OofCZer0: well it should give you a menu when you boot your computer
[05:58] <Flannel> OofCZer0: you probably need to hit ... er, del, I think?  to get to the grub menu, there will be a little text thing after your BIOS/Post screen, telling you what to push
[05:58] <DaveyJ> i need something reliable
[05:58] <JoseStefan> grimx, you need Sun's Java
[05:58] <JoseStefan> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:58] <OofCZer0> kitche but it doesnt
[05:58] <OofCZer0> kitche it just boots windows, done, thats it
[05:58] <billybennett> OofCZer0, you might need the Super Grub CD
[05:58] <grimx> i have java plugin installed with firefox mozilla
[05:58] <Borat> TiG4: Yes i can.
[05:58] <JoseStefan> grimx, not the same thing as Sun's Java
[05:58] <OofCZer0> billybennett que es das?
[05:59] <grimx> oh ok
[05:59] <billybennett> OofCZer0, do what? :P
[05:59] <JoseStefan> !java > grimx
[05:59] <Flannel> OofCZer0: the grub list is hidden by default, you need to push whatever the key is to show it while booting
[05:59] <OofCZer0> billybennett what is that
[05:59] <grimx> jre
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> Esc
[05:59] <TiG4> Borat, I don't know then. There is obviously something wrong but I'm not sure what it is. Sorry.
[05:59] <Montag_> XGL is so beautiful.
[05:59] <Flannel> OofCZer0: or, you can just edit your grub config to not hide the menu by default
[05:59] <iceman241> crap, where is tha UBUNTU icon thats in the Gnome panel upper left corent ? that ugly brown sob
[05:59] <billybennett> OofCZer0, they are smarter then me :)
[06:00] <OofCZer0> Flannel so its like that for everyone when they first do it
[06:00] <OofCZer0> Flannel and i would do that how?
[06:00] <Flannel> OofCZer0: do which one?
[06:00] <miked595> anyone know how get the braodcom 4318 wifi workin on an hp dv8000
[06:00] <billybennett> OofCZer0, I wonder the same thing
[06:00] <OofCZer0> billybennett: i know but i figured if i asked you everyone else would help out
[06:00] <Tom_Reinke> Ok, question. I just installed ubuntu, since my old 300 mhz IBM died last night. Now I'm stuck with a fresh install, can someone take me through the steps of getting everything back to normal?
[06:00] <Tom_Reinke> First off, where is that wiki page...?
[06:00] <OofCZer0> billybennett just giving you props, and i need to know if i bring my hd to you can you TRY to recover it???? PLZZZZ
[06:03] (Flannel/#ubuntu) danielmarsom: use that, don'tpaste here
[06:03] (danielmarsom/#ubuntu) Flannel: ?
[06:04] (Flannel/#ubuntu) !paste
[06:04] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) Flannel ok well im going to restart and watch very carefully for the button thing and i will be back in a min if i cant find it, but thank you
[06:04] (JoseStefan/#ubuntu) !tell danielmarsom about pastebin
[06:04] (Flannel/#ubuntu) OofCZer0: it'll be right after the POST screen
[06:04] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) billybennett ill call you if i have a problem
[06:04] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) Flannel gotcha, thanks
[06:04] (Flannel/#ubuntu) OofCZer0: and, you can always just hit escape a bunch anyway.
[06:04] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) Flannel so escape is the key
[06:04] (Tom_Reinke/#ubuntu) Can someone please direct me to a page of everything that you can install with sudo apt-get install? I remember there being a website about that
[06:04] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) Flannel or is it del
[06:04] (danielmarsom/#ubuntu) ah ok thx but its done now.. so can anyone help me out?
[06:04] (Flannel/#ubuntu) matt_: put a / before the leave
[06:05] (Flannel/#ubuntu) OofCZer0: escape
[06:05] (billybennett/#ubuntu) OofCZer0, okay let me turn down the volume.. I can act as proxy
[06:05] (Flannel/#ubuntu) Tom_Reinke: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:05] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) billybennett lol
[06:05] (OofCZer0/#ubuntu) Flannel  thank you again
[06:05] (JoseStefan/#ubuntu) !tell danielmarsom about frostwire
[06:06] <danielmarsom> thanks
[06:06] <Milktea> What's the equivalent of ipconfig
[06:06] <Milktea> from DOS
[06:06] <Milktea> in bash
[06:06] <eXcentra> ifconfig?
[06:06] <effer> anyone know what i should do if i get this message when i do ./configure : You need boost/bind.hpp from the boost library to run Aleph One
[06:06] <Milktea> thanks
[06:07] <kitche> effer: you need boost installed
[06:07] <effer> kitche, what is boost?
[06:07] <kitche> effer: it's a C++ library
[06:07] <effer> kitche, ah ok...finding it now, thanks :)
[06:08] <Tom_Reinke> Can someone please direct me to a page where there is a list of all of the available packets and how to install them?
[06:08] <effer> kitche, can i apt-get it?
[06:08] <Tom_Reinke> I know there is one, I've seen it before.
[06:08] <JoseStefan> Tom_Reinke: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <kitche> effer: might try to apt-get I don't have ubuntu installed yet since I need to play around with it's cd to make it work for me
[06:09] <OofCZer0> Flannel ok no luck
[06:09] <Tom_Reinke> JoseStefan, server not found
[06:09] <Flannel> OofCZer0: did you install windows second?
[06:09] <OofCZer0> Flannel no 1st
[06:09] <JoseStefan> Tom_Reinke: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  i just verified it
[06:10] <Tom_Reinke> Josetefan, sorry my computer was being stupid..
[06:10] <Flannel> OofCZer0: did you use the alternate ISO, and do something funky with not installing a bootloader or something? or installing it somewhere else?
[06:10] <Rodrigo1> hi
[06:11] <effer> kitche, for futre reference, you can get it from synaptic (libboost)...thanks for your help :)
[06:11] <effer> *future
[06:11] <Rodrigo1> I would like to know if ubuntu will run fine on a pentium 2 300 mhz with 64 ram?
[06:11] <Rodrigo1> i want to install it on my old pc
[06:11] <seamus7_> hello... i'm having problems with EasyUbuntu .... it won't uninstalll .... can anyone help?
[06:11] <Tom_Reinke> JoseStefan, my terminal said it couldn't find the package.. I remember something about repositories?
[06:11] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: you want to run a GUI?
[06:11] <kitche> effer: well I just use boost libboost is something different
[06:11] <Flannel> seamus7_: #easyubuntu
[06:11] <marlacwp> I had java 1.4.2 installed and then installed 1.5.  I ran sudo update-alternatives --config java to make 1.5 the default, but Eclipse still uses 1.4.2.  Is there a way to switch it in one step or must I find every Java pref in Eclipse and figure out how to make it ref 1.5 instead of 1.4.2?
[06:11] <OofCZer0> Flannel i dont believe so, i had some problems installing it at first, cause i had so many partitions on two harddrives and it was hard to figure it out, so i went through windows and got rid of the partitions, and then went into it and installed ubuntu and it said installed correctly, and the whole reboot, and take cd out, and i did that and then windows just booted and thats it, so i dont think i did anything crazy but it is possibl
[06:11] <Rodrigo1> yes
[06:12] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: I would run xubuntu on that, not the default ubuntu
[06:12] <seamus7_> I'm also on #easyubuntu but no one is active there
[06:12] <difeta> who come I can't apt-get from us.archive.ubuntu.com? Is there a mirror?
[06:12] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: I think gnome would be a bit heavy for a machine that old
[06:12] <Flannel> OofCZer0: yeah, sounds like your grub never got installed, or didn't get installed on the MBR, this page should be able to fix it, whatever the original problem was: help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:12] <Rodrigo1> xubuntu? a different distro?
[06:12] <cmpalmer> difeta: just strip the us. from that
[06:12] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: it's an official version
[06:13] <Flannel> seamus7_: we don't support easyubuntu, it isn't official.  You could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:13] <Rodrigo1> what about kde or window maker?
[06:13] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: it uses the xfce desktop instead of gnome
[06:13] <difeta> cmpalmer, ok thanks
[06:13] <Rodrigo1> cmpalmer:  can you tell me the website?
[06:13] <Flannel> Rodrigo1: kde is kubuntu, you could use window maker, sure.
[06:13] <eXcentra> Rodrigo1, xfce is more lightweight
[06:13] <Rodrigo1> xfce
[06:13] <cmpalmer> Rodrigo1: go to the main ubuntu site, there should be a Xubuntu logo
[06:13] <Rodrigo1> ok im gonna take a look on that
[06:13] <Rodrigo1> ok thanks
[06:13] <cmpalmer> np
[06:13] <JoseStefan> 1repos > Tom_Reinke
[06:13] <JoseStefan> !repos > Tom_Reinke
[06:14] <seamus7_> is anyone familiar with the EasyUbuntu installation problem... others seem to be having the same problem
[06:14] <Flannel> Rodrigo1: you might be best served getting the alternate ISO (you'll need it to install on such low ram anyway) typing 'server' at the boot prompt, it'll install just the basics, no GUI, and then you can add window maker, or fluxbox, or whatever you like, ontop of them
[06:14] <Rodrigo1> does xfce comes with ubuntu?
[06:14] <miked595> anyone know how get the braodcom 4318 wifi workin on an hp dv8000
[06:14] <Flannel> seamus7_: this is NOT the place to ask for easyubuntu support, #easyubuntu, or if anyone knows, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:15] <Rodrigo1> or xubuntu..
[06:15] <Rodrigo1> k thanks Flannel
[06:15] <OofCZer0> Flannel so im using this section correct "Using the Install CD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader"
[06:15] <Flannel> Rodrigo1: yes, they're all sort of the same thing, just with different GUIs, all part of the ubuntu family
[06:15] <matt_> Does anyone here use konqueror over firefox?
[06:15] <bimberi> !xubuntu
[06:15] <Rodrigo1> it used to run mandrake and conectiva all good
[06:15] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <Flannel> OofCZer0: do you have the desktop ISO or the alternate ISO?
[06:15] <mortal5> has anyone here successfully used ffmpeg in ubuntu?
[06:15] <OofCZer0> Flannel desktop
[06:15] <seamus7_> oh thx ...very helpful
[06:15] <Flannel> OofCZer0: then you'll use the liveCD one.  using the LiveCD and overwritng windows Bootloader
[06:16] <OofCZer0> Flannel ok thanks, if it doesnt work ill be back in a min or two
[06:16] <miked595> think i'm gonna have to go to gentoo to get this thing workin
[06:16] <Tom_Reinke> Can someone give me some 1 on 1 time and help me set my repositories and some other issues I'm having?
[06:16] <Rodrigo1> nice i think xubuntu is the best option for me
[06:16] <matt_> ok Tom
[06:16] <SuperMiguel> how can i make a vim shortcut
[06:17] <Flannel> Tom_Reinke: join #ubuntu-classroom
[06:17] <UKMatt> can anyone here help me set up XGL/compiz?
[06:17] <Flannel> UKMatt: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:17] <UKMatt> actually, limme rephrase that, i have it set up i just need help configuring
[06:17] <Flannel> UKMatt: #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[06:18] <Tom_Reinke> Who was it that said they'd be willing to help me 1 on 1?
[06:18] <Flannel> Tom_Reinke: #ubuntu-classroom
[06:18] <Tom_Reinke> GAIM IRC killed itself again
[06:18] <billybennett> Hi I'm trying to update my GAIM but I know I sohuldnt remove gaim because its attached to gnome-desktop... I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaim_2.0_Beta_3_Quick_Install
[06:18] <Flannel> billybennett: go ahead and remove it, removal of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage is no big deal
[06:19] <Flannel> billybennett: you'll want to reinstall it before upgrading to edgy though
[06:19] <OofCZer0> billybennett which iso did matt download for me????
[06:19] <billybennett> OofCZer0, most likely i386 desktop
[06:19] <OofCZer0> billybennett so is that livecd or no
[06:19] <billybennett> OofCZer0, yes
[06:19] <OofCZer0> billybennett thank wodie
[06:20] <billybennett> Flannel, will I lose auto updates of programs that come with Ubuntu?
[06:20] <seamus7_> Will KTorrent work on the Gnome desktop? I installed it but nothing.
[06:21] <Flannel> billybennett: no, you'll just lose any new packages added to ubuntu-desktop, which there shouldn't be during dappers lifecycle, but thats why you want to readd it before upgrading
[06:21] <sean> lots of helpful people here :)
[06:21] <billybennett> Flannel, I know it goes against everything linux but Ill prob do a clean install of Edgy.. just so I can feel clean and better ya know
[06:21] <cafuego> at least two, and 821 robots.
[06:22] <Flannel> billybennett: shrug, thats fine.  you wont need to re-add when upgrading then ;)
[06:22] <sean> I have a silly question.
[06:23] <ireneshusband> Greetings. How do I connect a laptop to our home lan through another machine so that it is visible to the lan (i.e. without NAT, port-forwarding etc.)?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> ireneshusband,  you mean how to wire it to the network?
[06:24] <ireneshusband> yup
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> ugh.. get a hub, and run the cables to the hub
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> :) or better yet a switch
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> how can i login as root?
[06:25] <ireneshusband> dr_willis. problem is that the router is in the wrong place so I need to connect through a spare ethernet port on another machine on the lan.
[06:25] <irawan> ireneshusband: what do you mean with "through another machine"?
[06:25] <ireneshusband> through a desktop with 2 ethernet ports
[06:26] <irawan> Ok I see what you mean
[06:26] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, they do sell longer cables
[06:26] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: why do you need to?
[06:26] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, ethernet uses star topology, passing thru another machine involves routing
 in dapper the root account is disabled,  but on the ubuntu wiki  i think there is a article there on how to enable it, otherwise just su
[06:27] <ireneshusband> i know. but the cable I have won't fit through the hole available and I need to get some work done etc.etc.
[06:27] <seamus7_> In SYNAPTIC: what does the error message mean "'subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" when I try to uninstall a package???
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ireneshusband,  what is this 'other' machine running? linux? or windows?
[06:27] <Flannel> SuperMiguel, brendonjt, don't su.  sudo -s or sudo -i
[06:27] <ireneshusband> all linux
[06:27] <withayanda> is it possible to use wpa wifi encryption with dapper server?  i'm only familiar with using it using networkmanager applet.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ireneshusband,  you just want the samba shares accessable? nothing else?
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> excellent question withayanda
[06:28] <kaz> how do you create partitions in ubuntu via GUI?
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> i asked that myself
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> but have not the answer
[06:28] <Flannel> kaz: gparted
[06:29] <withayanda> i'm sure it's just a matter of finding out what config files it alters....
[06:29] <ireneshusband> dr_willis. the laptop is running a web server with a personal wiki. that's why i don't really want to be messing with nat if i can help it. I also will need to connect through different machines at different times
[06:29] <kaz> yeah for some reason  System -> Administration -> Disks  crashes
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> withayanda, /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <brumm_> test
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> it seems
[06:29] <jumbers> I need to know, is audio and video in Flash out of sync on Ubuntu, or is it just my computer?
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> not here
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> mbyc
[06:29] <brendonjt> Flannel: in edgy the root account is enabled but not from a X  only terminal
[06:30] <holzmodem> where can i download Knot3?
[06:30] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4W2qtn77.html what does this mean?
[06:30] <eXcentra> jumbers, it happens to me too. i suspect it has something to do with flashplayer 7..
[06:30] <Flannel> brendonjt: This isn't an edgy channel
[06:30] <jumbers> Let's hope
[06:30] <jumbers> Flash 9 better be good
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> holzmodem, ask on #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> jumbers, yea it better
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> we're paying for it...
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> j/k
[06:31] <brendonjt> Flannel: yip i know, but i am running that at the moment, and just letting ya know
[06:31] <jumbers> $99.99 per license, right?
[06:31] <ireneshusband> dr_willis. what I would like would be something like when you run an emulator and the emulator has its own ip accessible to other physical boxes on the lan.
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> jumbers, lol
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:32] <withayanda> nomasteryoda: maybe i can take the relevant files in my current regular dapper install from /etc/network, the /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh script, do the symlinks?
[06:33] <seamus7_> With Synaptic: what would ''subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" mean when I unsuccessfully attempt to uninstall a package?
[06:35] <clarence> How do I share my printer with my win xp machaine
[06:38] <bimberi> clarence: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[06:38] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, you could run vmware if you *really* want to.
[06:39] <clarence> Bimberi: I will check that out
[06:39] <seamus7_> What are some alternative methods for uninstalling a corrupt package (one that won't uninstall through Synaptic)?
[06:40] <JoseStefan> seamus7_: dpkg
[06:40] <dibblego> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4W2qtn77.html can anyone tell me what this means exactly?
[06:41] <seamus7_> oh okay
[06:41] <withayanda> is the ubuntu-server channel no longer around?
[06:41] <ireneshusband> crippsfx. ah. you misunderstand me. i don't actually want to run an emulator. i was using an emulator as an example. with emulators you can usually give the emulated machine its own ip address so that there are, in effect, 2 machines sharing the same port on the lan. i want to connect my laptop to the lan in the same way.
[06:41] <seamus7_> thx
[06:42] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, in theory you could set up a dummy ethernet interface and point it to a working ethernet device, then have the dummy receive its own IP address .... but I wouldn't have a clue about how to go about doing that.
[06:42] <bimberi> !info libapache-mod-php5
[06:42] <ubotu> Package libapache-mod-php5 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:42] <Flannel> dibblego: there's libapache2-mod-php5 or libapache-mod-php4
[06:43] <Vanique> elo
[06:43] <dibblego> Flannel, ah thanks
[06:43] <iceman24k> !ntfs
[06:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:43] <bimberi> dibblego: it's probably listed as an optional dependency against another package, that's why it says the 'but is referred to by another package' bit
[06:44] <marshall> hey guys
[06:44] <marshall> is there any way to make kde apps look like gnome apps/
[06:45] <ever> hola
[06:45] <dibblego> I've broken my sources.list somehow now
[06:45] <ever> k
[06:45] <ireneshusband> crippsfx. i see. sounds complicated. i imagined that it would be simple to do, like internet connection sharing in windoze. it's starting to sound like I'm wrong. need an x86 laptop i guess so i can use ndis and actually have working wireless.
[06:45] <ever> wssws
[06:45] <ever> swsws
[06:45] <ever> sws
[06:45] <ever> wsws
[06:45] <Flannel> dibblego: pastebin it
[06:45] <marshall> im using kopete and i want it to be inline with my other gnome apps
[06:45] <ever> wsws
[06:45] <ever> wsw
[06:45] <ever> s
[06:45] <Borat> Spam>????
[06:45] <ever> q puta es esto
[06:45] <Flannel> !es
[06:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:45] <dibblego> Flannel, http://rafb.net/paste/results/ocOte645.html
[06:45] <ever> ora verga, chido
[06:45] <JoseStefan> !ops
[06:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[06:46] <difeta> I'm trying to install the dev packaged for alsa. The package should be libasound2-dev, however all I see when I search is libasound2. Any ideas waht I'm doing wrong?
[06:46] <ever> y q onda d q platica??
[06:46] <imbrandon> JoseStefan, ??
[06:46] <ever> saben d futbol
[06:46] <Flannel> dibblego: you don't have a normal ubuntu section
[06:46] <JoseStefan> that's !language in !es
[06:46] <imbrandon> ever, english in here please
[06:46] <Madpilot> imbrandon, ever is spamming - be my guest
[06:46] <imbrandon> !es
[06:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:46] <dibblego> Flannel, what's a "normal ubuntu section"?
[06:46] <ever> vieron los goles d ronaldinho?
[06:46] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, now you're confusing me. the impression I'm getting is that you want one ethernet interface in one machine, but to have 2 ips assigned to it .... ?
[06:46] <dibblego> there is an example sources.list somewhere
[06:46] <uNfOrGiViNg> !br
[06:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:46] <JoseStefan> by !language i mean non-appropiate (pg13)
[06:46] <Flannel> dibblego: "deb [url]  dapper main restricted"
[06:46] <Intangir> does anyone know any good programs? or websites that validate html?
[06:47] <Intangir> im making a site and somehow some of my tables are not lined up
[06:47] <JoseStefan> aka bad words
[06:47] <Flannel> Intangir: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <HellDragon> anyone know a command to count how many "{" and "}" i got in a text file ?
[06:47] <Madpilot> Intangir, w3c.org has one
[06:47] <Intangir> thx
[06:47] <dibblego> Intangir, validator.w3.org
[06:47] <JoseStefan> thanks
[06:47] <imbrandon> HellDragon, wc possibly
[06:48] <wastrel> grep -c will count
[06:48] <ireneshusband> crippsfx. i just want to plug the laptop into a desktop and have it behave as if it is connected directly to the lan so that it can request services from other machines and other machines can request services from it.
[06:49] <harisund> has anybody installed Ubuntu as a router? Can somebody either help me understanding NAT using iptables, or point me to some good tutorials/references for that?
[06:49] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, ah. I see. check out man route
[06:50] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, it will require configuring the PC in the middle as a router
[06:50] <harisund> JoseStefan: that's exactly what I am trying to do as well :)
[06:50] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, if you want to plug in the laptop and have it "just work" you'll also want a dhcp server running on the desktop.
[06:51] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, you could consider a mini hub/switch for the 2 PCs on that physical end of your network
[06:51] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, ...and only one cable needs to pass thru the wall
[06:52] <billybennett> Hi, how can I go back and see what updates were just installed? I just did recommended updates and it broke all my ethernet controllers and what not
[06:53] <ireneshusband> CrippsFX & JoseStefan, if I set up the machine in the middle as a DHCP server the laptop could still be directly visible to the network then?
[06:53] <JoseStefan> billybennett, today's updates were kernel updates and nvidia-glx, among others
[06:54] <burnboy> mm apt-get grabbing new kernel at the moment
[06:54] <wastrel> billybennett:  i don't know an easy way to do that - might take a look in /var/cache/apt/archives and look at the packages dated today
[06:54] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, no.
[06:54] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, DHCP server is the cherry on the top, it's not the solution
[06:54] <avramana> #ubuntu-ap
[06:54] <burnboy> anybody here using Hula Mail?
[06:54] <cafuego> Does it actually work yet?
[06:54] <Madpilot> avramana, what is #ubuntu-ap for?
[06:54] <burnboy> not sure, it's on the repos
[06:55] <billybennett> JoseStefan yeah I just did them and restarted and lost my Internet + Sound
[06:55] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, considering the setup you stated before, and the main problem, i think a new small 5-port hub/switch, will solve your problem better
[06:55] <cafuego> burnboy: Last time I tried hula, the config scripts were unable to provide me with a working setup.
[06:55] <JoseStefan> billybennett, you might be missing the restricted modules for your kernel
[06:55] <burnboy> cafuego last time I tried it was before they had any sort of administration panel..that was fun
[06:56] <withayanda> hula works, but it's still pretty minimal.  (i last played with it early Spring.)
[06:56] <burnboy> i'm installing it/updating it now though
[06:56] <wastrel> hula eh
[06:56] <JoseStefan> ireneshusband, with the additional hub/switch, the other PC is not required for the laptop to work
[06:56] <ireneshusband> crippsfx josestefan. i think you are really talking about connection sharing the windows or mac os way, have I understood that correctly? getting a switch is not an option right at the moment. i'd do better to save up for a slightly less ancient laptop. meanwhile i have stuff on the laptop and work i need to do.
[06:56] <wastrel> never heard of it.  does it sync with palm?
[06:56] <burnboy> withayanda what did you use it for?
[06:56] <billybennett> JoseStefan but everything was working fine 5 mins ago
[06:57] <burnboy> i was thinking of using hula as a hub for mail and have my mail clients all read my own server that's retrieving e-mail
[06:57] <JoseStefan> billybennett, are you using the 386 or 686 kernel? (uname -a)
[06:57] <wastrel> burnboy:  that's what i do with my desktop system, it's an imap server that collects my mail and makes it avalible to the rest of the LAN
[06:57] <withayanda> burnboy:  i was looking for a nice calendar server at the time.  from what i remember the last time i checked on hula, calendaring is still in its infancy.
[06:57] <cafuego> burnboy: I have a setup kind alike that, but using postfix/courier/mysql.
[06:58] <billybennett> JoseStefan 386
[06:58] <burnboy> cafuego yeah I've been leaning towards postfix..i do support for cPanel and we use exim and it just plain SUCKS.
[06:58] <burnboy> withayanda the calendar was a major selling point for me
[06:58] <carlos> evening
[06:58] <cafuego> cyrus does calendaring these days i think
[06:58] <JoseStefan> billybennett, try: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386"
[06:58] <wastrel> calendaring is annoying me lately because palm sync is so broken in dapper :p
[06:59] <carlos> i was wondering if someone had the time to help me out with the ATI v8.28 drivers
[06:59] <burnboy> horde is a good competitor but it's just too bulky :) it's not web2.0! ;)
[06:59] <malv> whats the command called that will allow me to run a command on a network of machines?
[06:59] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, what we're talking about is setting up the PC you're connecting the laptop to as a router. The laptop WILL be available to the rest of the network, if you set up the router that way, but it won't be transparent. You'll have to set up your routing tables so that when request X is passed to the PC, is gets automatically forwarded to the laptop, which will have its own subnet IP
[06:59] <billybennett> JoseStefan I cannot get online at the momment
[07:00] <JoseStefan> billybennett, ok, forgot. Do you have any older kernels installed?
[07:00] <billybennett> JoseStefan I doubt it, this is a semi-fresh installation
[07:00] <withayanda> burnboy: the simple, nice user interface was the selling point for me.
[07:01] <JoseStefan> billybennett: they should show on the grub boot menu
[07:01] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, short of hooking up the laptop to an unmanaged switch, or a hub, there's no way to get the network to see it transparently ... unless you *also* set up your router to spoof the IP of the laptop ....
[07:01] <billybennett> JoseStefan then no I only have this installation I dont even get a grub its hidden
[07:01] <freakabcd> hi all
[07:01] <CrippsFX> ...in which case, the desktop just won't work ... depending on the subnet and such.
[07:02] <malv> incase anyone was wondering, dsh is the tool i was looking for
[07:02] <burnboy> on another note, does anyone here use Ubuntu for MythTV?
[07:02] <withayanda> burnboy: but if you're interested in a calendar server, i'm thinking of porting apple's calendar server (will be in leopard...already released under their open source license) and kicking its tires.
[07:02] <freakabcd> does anyone know if the a0poster class of latex is included in any package ?
[07:02] <burnboy> withayanda: i'd just as soon buy a macbook than port anything :) i've been playing with itunes 7 and it's making me think.......(shh i know this is an ubuntu channel)
[07:02] <billybennett> JoseStefan I just read there was a problem with the Sept 14 update
[07:03] <ireneshusband> crippsfx. is spoofing what happens when an emulated os is visible to the network through its host's ethernet port?
[07:03] <JoseStefan> billybennett, do you have a link for that?
[07:03] <billybennett> JoseStefan I think its only Xserver problems though
[07:03] <billybennett> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257459
[07:04] <JoseStefan> billybennett, it may be related, as it involves the linux-restricted-modules
[07:04] <CrippsFX> ireneshusband, no. spoofing is a cracker's trick ... usually used when doing DDoS attacks, where the packets sent out from one computer to their destination contain the IP of a different computer ... but come to think about it ... spoofing wouldn't work.
[07:04] <CrippsFX> ...anyways ... it's 2:30 am ... and I have to be up in 5 hours for class. goodnight.
[07:04] <billybennett> JoseStefan http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213420
[07:05] <withayanda> burnboy:  well, it's written in python so it won't be too difficult to port.  (dapper, winxp, and os x are all running great simultaneously via xen on my new macbook pro)  ;-)
[07:05] <JoseStefan> billybennett, ubuntu does not automatically remove older kernels, so you should be able to find and boot to your old kernel
[07:05] <billybennett> JoseStefan how do I show that in Grub escape?
[07:05] <Flannel> billybennett: yeah, or if you want, you can disable the hidden menu through your grub config
[07:06] <JoseStefan> billybennett, i'm not sure why your grub is hidden, you may be able to make it visible by looking at the grub config
[07:06] <burnboy> withayanda damn what are you running to handle all of that?
[07:06] <burnboy> withayanda oh wait, that's all on a pro? whew.
[07:06] <billybennett> so I see 2 kernels
[07:06] <JoseStefan> billybennett, i think pressing ESC will show grub, without having to edit much
[07:06] <billybennett> JoseStefan should I do recovery mode?
[07:07] <burnboy> withayanda too much for my budget
[07:07] <JoseStefan> billybennett, 2 kernels, or 1 kernel with 2 options?
[07:07] <billybennett> 1 kernel with 2 options
[07:07] <billybennett> 2.6.15-26-386
[07:07] <SS2> billybennett: thats normal, I have three options with one kernel
[07:07] <JoseStefan> billybennett, did you ever remove older kernels?
[07:08] <billybennett> JoseStefan no I have no idea how I'd do that
[07:08] <sean> Where does everyone buy their hardware from? Newegg?
[07:08] <JoseStefan> billybennett, ok let me think here, i'm gonna read the forum a bit
[07:08] <billybennett> JoseStefan okie
[07:09] <withayanda> burnboy:  yeah, i had to save up for it myself.  but i really wanted/needed to run os x legally as well as ubuntu.  but anyway.... :)
[07:09] <billybennett> Curse these Kernel Updates... *shakes fist*
[07:10] <JoseStefan> billybennett, could you re-state your initial question, maybe someone else can help too
[07:11] <billybennett> Hi, how can I go back and see what updates were just installed? I just did recommended updates and it broke all my ethernet controllers and what not
[07:11] <billybennett> I believe I did a Kernel update and everything is broke :( i was trigger happy
[07:11] <Sarra_> Does the Terminal in Ubuntu use the PING command the same way Windows' command line works? IE, if I type ping www.website.com, will it actually ping website.com?
[07:12] <withayanda> billybennet:  you could go look at your dpkg.log.  it's in /var/log
[07:12] <tom_reinke> Can someone name one mp3 codec that works really well that I can use to test if my sound is working?
[07:12] <SS2> hopfully the kernel update won't brake down my system now ...
[07:12] <bimberi> !mp3
[07:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <bimberi> Sarra_: yes
[07:12] <Sarra_> Thanks bimberi
[07:12] <billybennett> withayanda didnt mean to write that part of the question, I figured out it has to be the -26 kernel update...
[07:12] <billybennett> :(
[07:13] <bimberi> Sarra_: np :)
[07:13] <SurfnKid> hey guys i have a quesiton
[07:13] <tom_reinke> bimberi, I just want to know one mp3 codec that is popular
[07:13] <tokenbad> is it hard to install XGL in ubuntu?
[07:13] <SurfnKid> the grub images (splashimages). Can I view them on Cli mode with an image viewer?
[07:13] <Flannel> tokenbad: not really, #ubuntu-xgl for details
[07:13] <SurfnKid> instead of viewing them on VT7 everytime
[07:13] <withayanda> tokenbad: depends on the video card you have, but for the most part, no it's not that difficult.
[07:14] <Frederick> folkswhy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash doesnt work with image magick? sudo debi  imagemagick.changes
[07:14] <Frederick> debi: can't read imagemagick.changes!
[07:14] <bimberi> tom_reinke: sorry, i don't know which particular one
[07:14] <Flannel> SurfnKid: sure, download caca-utils, then you can use cacaview to view them in ascii
[07:14] <SurfnKid> Flannel: you rock
[07:14] <SurfnKid> thanks br
[07:14] <SurfnKid> b
[07:15] <nextstate2> I just installed ubuntu desktop. There's no gcc installed. How do I install it?
[07:15] <withayanda> speaking of sound...i never really cared about it until now, so i never bothered reading about linux & audio.  i'm totally baffled by all of this also, oss, etc.  any recommendations on Linux Audio for Dummies sites?
[07:15] <JoseStefan> billybennett, try: "cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep upgrade" but Dont paste that here
[07:15] <Flannel> nextstate2: build-essential
[07:15] <burnboy> wow, cacaview is ugly ;)
[07:16] <Flannel> burnboy: its ascii, what do you expect?  it works really well though
[07:16] <burnboy> Flannel yeah i just tested it and .. indeed it does good for what it's doing
[07:16] <billybennett> I hope I didnt miss an answer :(
[07:16] <hantoo> quick question, wonder if anyone knows it.. if i only get a essid for wireless in uni, i should enter that into /etc/networks/interfaces right? can't seem to get wireless working
[07:17] <nextstate2> Flannel: what is build-essential?
[07:17] <hantoo> nextstate2: all the necessary compilers and such
[07:17] <hantoo> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:17] <Flannel> nextstate2: it installs the build toolchain.  'sudo apt-get install build-essential' will install it
[07:17] <burnboy> nextstate2 make and gcc, used for compiling source files (like .tar.gz
[07:17] <JoseStefan> billybennett, try: "cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep upgrade" but Dont paste that here
[07:18] <burnboy> i wouldn't have an ubuntu installation without build-essential
[07:18] <tokenbad> withayanda, nvidia 5700 256 meg video card
[07:18] <withayanda> hantoo:  what kind of encryption is that wifi network running?  you using dapper?  gnome?  kde?
[07:18] <hantoo> withayanda: dapper, fluxbox.
[07:19] <hantoo> not quite sure what kind of encryption, they didn't say
[07:19] <withayanda> hantoo:  know if the network you're trying to connect to uses wep or wpa encryption?
[07:19] <withayanda> ah.
[07:19] <nextstate2> 'Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.' wtf?
[07:20] <JoseStefan> billybennett, that will answer the question of what was installed
[07:20] <hantoo> withayanda: not wep for sure.
[07:20] <hantoo> they wanted us to install vpn as well, if that helps
[07:20] <JoseStefan> !build-essential
[07:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:21] <burnboy> nextstate2 check that your /etc/apt/sources.list has universe
[07:21] <Infest> hello all
[07:21] <burnboy> nextstate2 might even be just build-essentials (don't think so though)
[07:21] <JoseStefan> !info build-essential
[07:21] <jazzrocker> hi, when i select "open file" from MySQL Query Browser, the location in the File Open dialog is never saved
[07:21] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[07:21] <jazzrocker> it always defaults to my home folder
[07:21] <SurfnKid> Flannel, is it on the ubuntu distro?
[07:21] <burnboy> JoseStefan well that's useful :)
[07:22] <jazzrocker> is that a MySQL thing or is that a facet of the widget set, e.g. GNOME/GTK
[07:22] <Flannel> SurfnKid: it's in universe
[07:22] <SurfnKid> caca-view?
[07:22] <Flannel> SurfnKid: no, caca-utils
[07:22] <SurfnKid> oh
[07:22] <jazzrocker> e.g. if i wanted to change that would I be changing the source for MySQL Query Browser or for GTK ?
[07:22] <Infest> can someone knows how to do custom live cd, for testing environment
[07:22] <Flannel> SurfnKid: it installs a bunch of stuff, lib-caca, and then some PoC programs
[07:22] <SurfnKid> yeah saw that
[07:22] <Infest> can someone?
[07:22] <jazzrocker> other file open dialogs however, do save my last location
[07:22] <Flannel> Infest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:22] <jazzrocker> so i'm guessing it's a MySQL query browser feature?
[07:22] <billybennett> JoseStefan http://pastebin.ca/171206
[07:23] <Infest> oh thanks
[07:23] <withayanda> hantoo:  did "they" give you a password to join the wifi network?  any instructions at all?
[07:23] <SurfnKid> its great so i can preview the stuff before i change boot images
[07:23] <hantoo> No1Viking: no passwords.
[07:23] <hantoo> er
[07:23] <theTRUTH> hi everyone
[07:23] <nextstate2> !repositories
[07:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:23] <hantoo> withayanda: no.. no passwords. they gave instructions for windows, =\
[07:24] <JoseStefan> billybennett, i wonder if automatix could have had anythind to do with it
[07:24] <theTRUTH> how can I install the latest version of Gaim please?
[07:24] <SurfnKid> !gaim
[07:24] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[07:24] <billybennett> JoseStefan I didnt install anything new from Automatix... I just have them listed in my source.list for updates
[07:24] <withayanda> hantoo:  i'm not familiar with all of the various window managers.  can you run gnome applets w/ fluxbox?
[07:25] <xuserx> withayanda: if you have the librarys
[07:25] <theTRUTH> SurfnKid: ok
[07:25] <SurfnKid> Flannel, awesome I got it running thanks
[07:25] <JoseStefan> billybennett, is the ISO you have from "6.06.1" or 6.06 ?
[07:25] <billybennett> .1
[07:25] <withayanda> thanks, xuserx.
[07:25] <billybennett> JoseStefan its the newest .1
[07:26] <JoseStefan> billybennett, ok, you will have to try a downgrade
[07:26] <billybennett> JoseStefan got a wiki? :)
[07:26] <OofCZer0> Flannel ok i did all that stuff you told me to do and it wouldnt let me do it, so i tried reinstalling, TWICE, and then tried(to overwrite the windows bootloader), and it says partition filesystem not correct or somethign along those lines
[07:26] <OofCZer0> Flannel any suggestions on what to do now?
[07:26] <hantoo> withayanda: s'pose so.
[07:26] <JoseStefan> billybennett, try this syntax: sudo apt-get install (pkgname)=(version)
[07:26] <Flannel> OofCZer0: er, try the 'grub super disk' thing, on that page.  it does... basically one thing, and that is install grub.
[07:27] <JoseStefan> billybennett, i suggest you put all packages in one line
[07:27] <Flannel> OofCZer0: next thing to do is to reinstall ubuntu
[07:27] <JoseStefan> billybennett, just put a space and the next pkgname=version
[07:27] <OofCZer0> ive reinstalled ubuntu 3 times now
[07:27] <withayanda> hantoo:  the only reason that i ask is because configuring wireless is MUCH easier using the networkmanager applet for gnome, or knetworkmanager on kde.
[07:27] <Flannel> OofCZer0: since you haven't done much with it, no big deal.  but, I honestly have no idea what's going on
[07:27] <OofCZer0> flannel ive reinstalled ubuntu 3 times now
[07:27] <kintaro0e> hello everyone..need advice..do i need to make 2 servers for my dns to run: 1 for public networks and 1 for private networks?if we have a domain hosted at ultradns.com like foo.com and i want to make a internal dns server like us.foo.com..is it posible.?
[07:27] <Flannel> OofCZer0: sorry, no idea.  You might try filing a bug report
[07:28] <foo> Blah. Why is it a such a hassle to change the fonts in xterm? I've tried xfontsel ... and I run xterm -font .... then the line that xfontsel .. and it works, but the font looks like it is in bold or something, but it shouldn't be.
[07:28] <hantoo> withayanda: so i've heard. i'll look into it, thanks.
[07:28] <tom_reinke> Flannel, Ok, so I've got everything working and I'm looking at the comprehensive sound guide on the forums.. now I go to the first step and it has my soundcard listed yet I get no sound.. help?
[07:28] <JoseStefan> billybennett, luckily, the oldversions will be in your apt cache :/
[07:28] <billybennett> JoseStefan am I listing the new ones I installed that messed me up?
[07:28] <Flannel> tom_reinke: sorry, I have no clue when it comes to sound ;)
[07:28] <OofCZer0> Flannel but do you tink the grub super disk will work
[07:28] <JoseStefan> billybennett, you will be using the old version numbers
[07:28] <Flannel> OofCZer0: well, everything else should have worked... so, I have no idea.
[07:28] <iceman24k> how can you adjust the icon size on the desktop ?
[07:29] <tom_reinke> Flannel, Argh, oh well.
[07:29] <OofCZer0> billybennett u there???
[07:29] <SEN5421> I am experiencing a system hang often; I think it it related to my graphics card : ATI Radeon 9250 128mb ; I am using the ATI Driver 9600 ; Anyone know what the cause of the issue is? How to fix it?
[07:29] <tom_reinke> Can anyone help me with sound?
[07:29] <billybennett> JoseStefan I'm a bit confused... what am I doing? installing old packages or what
[07:30] <iceman24k> is there a way to adjust the icon size on the desktop in gnome
[07:30] <JoseStefan> billybennett, installing the old kernels
[07:30] <billybennett> ok
[07:30] <OofCZer0> billybennett u there???
[07:30] <billybennett> JoseStefan so I'm doing sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[07:30] <hantoo> withayanda: i shall bring the problem to the techguys in uni :D
[07:30] <billybennett> OofCZer0 yes but I'm in a bit of a bind
[07:30] <JoseStefan> billybennett, not exactly. check with OofCZer0
[07:31] <OofCZer0> billybennett ok let me know when yo get a min
[07:31] <OofCZer0> k
[07:31] <billybennett> JoseStefan I meant to put 25 instead of 26
[07:31] <SEN5421> iceman24k, you should be able to right click a desktop icon and then select "Stretch Icon" and then change the size with your mouse
[07:31] <SEN5421> anyone here experienced with debugging ATI driver issues?
[07:32] <billybennett> JoseStefan it wont let me install since I dont have the internet
[07:32] <JoseStefan> billybennett, the old and new are both 26, but one has .46 and the other .47
[07:32] <iceman24k> there a way to set all icons smaller ?
[07:32] <SEN5421> I don't know how to fix this issue I have with my Ubuntu system hanging ( I think it is because of the ATI 9600 driver )
[07:32] <withayanda> iceman24k:  do you just want to resize one or a few icons or all of your icons in general?
[07:32] <JoseStefan> billybennett, luckily the old package is in your apt cache and wont need to download
[07:33] <iceman24k> all general
[07:33] <billybennett> JoseStefan I tried linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386 but it says blah blah blah new packages and trys to look on the internet for them
[07:33] <iceman24k> cant get my resolution higher :( so i need to shring the icons
[07:33] <JoseStefan> billybennett, something like: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-26-386=2.6.15-26.46
[07:34] <SEN5421> I guess no one knows...
[07:34] <SEN5421> exit
[07:34] <glick> hi
[07:34] <JoseStefan> billybennett, you have to also put the resticted modules and the version on the same line
[07:34] <billybennett> JoseStefan I know its suppose to be 2.6.15-25-386 but.. I dont how to find that info on the part after =
[07:34] <iceman24k> i'm at 1152x768 but would like a higher resolution, but after about 5 retries to get it, i will settle for smaller icons
[07:35] <JoseStefan> billybennett, check with: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep upgrade
[07:35] <glick> i checked out that book Ubuntu Unleashed
[07:35] <glick> i was kina disappointed
[07:35] <billybennett> JoseStefan that command tells me the one I dont want though
[07:36] <withayanda> iceman24k: you'll have to change the details of whatever theme you're using....  you have to find that theme's index.theme file and change a value in it.
[07:36] <JoseStefan> billybennett, the output of that should be: ugrade pkgname oldver newver
[07:36] <JoseStefan> upgrade*
[07:36] <iceman24k> withayanda ill note that thanks
[07:37] <billybennett> JoseStefan hold on I got the wireless to work. Ill make a pastebin and could you tell me what to type
[07:37] <nextstate2> ok, now I'm a happy camper. The universe in my sources.list did the trick. Now to rebuild the kernel. Thanks guys!
[07:37] <JoseStefan> billybennett, if you got the wireless to work, doesnt that solve the problem?
[07:38] <toaks> is anyone familliar with scratchbox?
[07:38] <billybennett> JoseStefan no my wired ethernet is still broke
[07:38] <JoseStefan> billybennett, it might be some settings that need to be checked, and not the kernel
[07:38] <wastrel> iceman24k:  http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1975
[07:39] <toaks> billy - whats wrong with the ethernet connection. ?
[07:39] <toaks> have you configured your ip address.
[07:40] <LookTJ> is there ways i experice with edgy or do i have to wait for release?
[07:40] <withayanda> wastrel:  thanks for that!  here i've been doing it the hard way all along.
[07:40] <JoseStefan> toaks, update broke his ethernet controllers
[07:41] <wastrel> withayanda:  i haven't tested it ;]
[07:41] <wastrel> LookTJ:  you can burn a livecd and try it that way
[07:41] <withayanda> i just did.  that icon zoom option does as advertised.
[07:41] <toaks> ah ok.
[07:42] <LookTJ> where do i download the iso, wastrel?
[07:42] <JoseStefan> billybennett, i suggest rechecking for "new" updates using the wireless connection
[07:42] <toaks> so your ethernet controlles are broken - and ifconfig eth0 ip_address doesnt bring it back ?
[07:43] <JoseStefan> billybennett, and re-check your networks settings again
[07:43] <toaks> yep.
[07:44] <wastrel> LookTJ:  i dunno, ask about edgy on #ubuntu+1 :]
[07:45] <billybennett> JoseStefan and toaks It broke my gnome-network-manager
[07:45] <JoseStefan> billybennett: what did?
[07:45] <jared777> Never ask a blonde to replace a CPU  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM&eurl=
[07:45] <JoseStefan> billybennett: the update?
[07:45] <billybennett> JoseStefan and toaks with a bunch of ifconfigs and what not Ive got it online... I guess the kernel update broke gnome-network-manager
[07:46] <jared777> That is some of the funniest shit i have seen I feel for that guy
[07:46] <billybennett> JoseStefan its working now but says its still disconnected
[07:46] <toaks> ok - so i take it that u are using this thing called gnome-network manager to manage your network.
[07:47] <toaks> so have you configured your network using the command line before?
[07:47] <Fnyar> is anyone else having problems with the us.archive.ubuntu.com apt repository?
[07:47] <LookTJ> how do i get the edgy iso so i can test it
[07:47] <billybennett> toaks yes and no.. I've learned how to do it from using Backtrack a Slackware live cd.. but I use gnome-network-manager for the WPA2 support
[07:47] <printk>
[07:47] <JoseStefan> Fnyar, it's a bit slow
[07:48] <toaks> yep ok - yep. got it - so doing it through command line sorted it then.
[07:48] <toaks> thats the way ive always done it.
[07:48] <gbrent> anyone know how to reconfigure the xserver in suse from command line? no one is answering in suse?
[07:48] <billybennett> toaks whats the correct way to do DHCP.. I learned dhcpcd but that doesnt work in Ubuntu
[07:48] <JoseStefan> !xconfig
[07:48] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:49] <gbrent> that does not work in suse
[07:49] <Fnyar> JoseStefan: apt just stalls if I use those sources, but I can get there via the web. Just archive.ubuntu.com works though
[07:49] <toaks> yeah - dunno the answer to that one actually - cause installing breezy 5.10 i set the option in the install.
[07:49] <relbs> If I want to add a custom route setting (e.g. route add -net ...) and have it activate with a network interface, where should I put it?
[07:49] <Fnyar> still somewhat slow though
[07:49] <JoseStefan> Fnyar, my apt is slow, but works, just takes a long time
[07:49] <billybennett> Well how can I file a bug report for gnome-network-manager cause I need my fix :P
[07:49] <toaks> then it keeps working from then on.
[07:50] <billybennett> fix as in drug reference :)
[07:50] <JoseStefan> !bug
[07:50] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <Fnyar> JoseStefan: is this archive normally slow? I've recently switched from Debian to Ubuntu Server
[07:50] <JoseStefan> Fnyar, no
[07:51] <weedar> I want to use "remote desktop connection" to remotely control my desktop, but it is not logged into it's windowmanager. Is there someway I can remotely log it in, via ssh or similar so I can use rdc?
[07:51] <LookTJ> im downloading edgy
[07:52] <LookTJ> is there any others to burn besides a cd?
[07:52] <LookTJ> i don'
[07:52] <LookTJ> i dont want to burn to a cd*
[07:52] <JoseStefan> How can I set default ports for gnome-btdownload?  I have enabled Unix password sync in the smb.conf - do I need to do anything else to enable Unix user authentication to work with samba?
[07:57] <cafuego> LookTJ: Why are you downloading it then?
[07:58] <cafuego> LookTJ: You cna run vmware I guess and look at Edgy in a vm. That'll be dead slow, though.
[07:58] <LookTJ> can i setup the iso onto a usb and install onto the harddrive?
[07:58] <cafuego> With syslinux, yup.
[07:59] <JoseStefan> LookTJ, for edgy help try #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <gbrent> !windows
[07:59] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:59] <gbrent> hehe
[07:59] <elephanthunter> If I wrote an html socket layer to a GPL program that communicated data structures with my non-GPL commercial web application (without distributing the source or binaries of either, just using the generated html on my site), would that violate the GPL?
[07:59] <xukun_> is't possible to net-install ubuntu dapper so I have the latest kernel ?
[07:59] <LookTJ> !syslinux
[07:59] <ubotu> syslinux: Bootloader for Linux/i386 using MS-DOS floppies. In component main, is optional. Version 3.11-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 203 kB, installed size 492 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:59] <LookTJ> ok that didn't help me ubotu -_-
[07:59] <wastrel> that's a headscratcher
[08:00] <wastrel> i'm guessing the answer is no - you're not distributing the code so gpl doesn't apply
[08:00] <bimberi_> !install
[08:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:00] <JoseStefan> yay #ubuntu has 7 times as many users as ##windows, we win
[08:00] <wastrel> and if you're serving html, you're distributing the code of that, by definition
[08:00] <hantoo> lol
[08:00] <bimberi_> LookTJ: check that Installation help page (above).  There's info on usb install via that
[08:01] <wastrel> er. code or binary
[08:01] <elephanthunter> Ok, just making sure there were enough loopholes to keep my backend covered.
[08:01] <BHSPitLappy> hi all
[08:02] <LookTJ> i guess ill wait til octcober
[08:02] <elephanthunter> wastrel: would you consider it immoral?
[08:03] <BHSPitLappy> when I start Limewire, my whole gnome/x session freezes at "Loading Core Components"... I'm using blackdown java, and this HAS worked fine before.
[08:04] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: Do other Java applications work? Have you tried Frostwire?
[08:04] <wastrel> elephanthunter:  personally, no - but i'm not a purist (i have universe enabled ;).  if you're not distributing code or binary derived from the gpl code, i don't think gpl applies.
[08:05] <BHSPitLappy> Maje, maybe, no. Why should I need to try frostwire? Limewire has worked perfectly on this comp before, and does work under dapper on my desktop as well.
[08:06] <elephanthunter> Isn't Limewire bundled spyware?
[08:06] <bitchslapper> elephanthunter: not anymore I believe
[08:07] <elephanthunter> Oh, they released it under the GPL.
[08:07] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: I'm just trying to diagnose the problem. FrostWire is a fork of LimeWire that uses Java. If it worked, then we know the problem is with Limewire, not with Java. Else, we can start thinking Java is the problem.
[08:07] <bitchslapper> BHSPitLappy: probably, just to make sure you're jre hasn't screwed up
[08:08] <BHSPitLappy> erm
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> in the description, it says it needs the Sun Java runtime
[08:09] <BHSPitLappy> does that mean I have to use Sun as opposed to blackdown... or can I disregard that
[08:10] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: As far as I know, blackdown is the about the same as sun's official jre
[08:10] <InvisiblePinkUni> I am trying to get my wireless card working on ubuntu, installed ndiswrapper and the network card recognizes the wireless networks, but when i do "sudo ifup wlan0" i get "no dhcp offers received" , the wep key is typed correctly. Help please...
[08:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> !wireless
[08:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> InvisiblePinkUni, network-manager-gnome is useful to have
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> frostwire's working.
[08:11] <marshall> hey guys
[08:11] <memn0ch> dhcpd wlan0 also helps
[08:11] <marshall> is there any way to make kde apps look like gnome apps?
[08:12] <Maje> sure, marshall, use gnome instead of kde
[08:12] <wastrel> give them the same theme
[08:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> BHSPitLappy: i am using wifi-radar as well... it shows the wireless networks
[08:12] <wastrel> redhat did that iirc
[08:12] <marshall> Maje: hahaha...
[08:12] <elephanthunter> Maje: I don't think using gnome changes the look of KDE apps :P
[08:13] <Maje> elephanthunter: Stop proving me wrong
[08:13] <LookTJ> !tell looktj about firefox
[08:13] <marshall> elephanthunter: you know how when you use kubuntu you have the option of making gnome apps adobt the kde widgets and color scheme
[08:13] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: Tells me the problem is with LimeWire. Did you install from source, and has it worked before?
[08:13] <marshall> elephanthunter: is there anything like that for kde apps
[08:14] <wastrel> marshall:  you can give them the same theme, redhat has themes that are identical for kde and gnome
[08:15] <elephanthunter> There is no current way to change the widgets, but you can change the theme, like wastel said.
[08:15] <marshall> wastrel: o, thanks
[08:15] <Maje> This would be why I use GNOME. KDE's widgets annoy the heck out of me =P
[08:15] <wastrel> ditto
[08:15] <marshall> yeah same
[08:15] <weedar> Is there any way to remotely login with kdm on a machine without starting a new session like FreeNX does?
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> Maje, I installed it from a package, and it's worked perfectly before. just as frostwire's working now. in fact, frostwire even picked up my incomplete downloads I had in limewire
[08:16] <gbrent> whats the command to load gui program from another system over ssh or whatever?
[08:16] <ompaul> !frostwire
[08:16] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:16] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: That's very odd. Try doing a complete reinstall (except for downloads, of course) and see if it works. Worse comes to worst, you still have Frostwire until you figure the problem out
[08:17] <wastrel> gbrent:  ssh -X <other system>  then type the name of the command
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> Maje, I've had this exact situation before. I don't remember how it got remedied.
[08:17] <ompaul> gbrent, ssh -X user@machine programname
[08:17] <william__> JoseStefan, its me billybennett I went ahead and filed a bug report
[08:17] <bhav> anyone knows a ipv6 supported TFTPD server ????
[08:17] <gbrent> wastrel: is other system an ip, host name or either?
[08:17] <wastrel> either is fine
[08:17] <JoseStefan> william__, ok good
[08:18] <gbrent> ompaul: does anything have to be setup on the other computer? does gnome/kde matter?
[08:18] <ompaul> gbrent, you need openssh-server
[08:18] <gbrent> just the ability to ssh in right?
[08:18] <rredd4> need help with kguitar, someone please?
[08:18] <ompaul> gbrent, ohh yeah and program name needs to exist :)
[08:19] <gbrent> hehe
[08:19] <lewix> hi all
[08:19] <M_Fatih> hi, good morning all.. (from Turkey)
[08:19] <lewix> does dcc++ work on linux?
[08:19] <cynical> lewix: yes
[08:19] <gbrent> lewix: I know there is an install for it. look at ubuntuguide.org
[08:19] <cynical> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_File_share_utility_.28DC.2B.2B.29
[08:19] <lewix> thanks
[08:20] <Adross> is the edgy install meant to take ages to scan my disks on step 5?
[08:20] <sekzy> edgy questions #ubuntu+1
[08:21] <Adross> kk, sorry
[08:21] <gbrent> ompaul: does the program have to exsist on both ends?
[08:21] <lewix> that's weird
[08:21] <wastrel> only on the remote side
[08:21] <lewix> I can't get irc to work on windows
[08:21] <gbrent> go figure
[08:21] <marshall> lewix: lol
[08:21] <lewix> wit mirc but it does work with xchat
[08:21] <marshall> i know
[08:21] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[08:22] <M_Fatih> my keyboard not working good with XGL server, language spesific keys not working and i can't press alt GR key.. i want to write email at symbol.. i change keyboard map with xmodmap and useing right combination for language special keys and symbols but i can't use alt gr key :(
[08:22] <lewix> right now im upgrading my station :)
[08:22] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[08:22] <lewix> to dapper
[08:23] <ompaul> gbrent, no you are pulling it from box one to box two
[08:23] <rredd4> kguitar users?  need help
[08:23] <gbrent> wastrel: I have root disabled for ssh and I have to su - over (suse machine) anyway to login as my user but then launch the program as root?
[08:24] <ompaul> rredd4, I don't use it, ask your question and maybe someone will find they know the answer, that could be anything from compile through middle c or something else
[08:24] <ompaul> gbrent, bring a terminal back to meet you
[08:25] <kads> how can i speed up network printing from winxp
[08:25] <gbrent> hehe good thinking
[08:25] <cdubya> I keep getting this weird stuff happening with openoffice.org.....everytime I try to open this particular doc (it's an excel file), oo.org acts like it's trying to open it with Writer/Web......but I want it to open with Calc.....this is frustrating me to no end and I'd really like to completely remove oo.org and all the config files and EVERYTHING and reinstall it fresh so that maybe that will resolve the issue.....any suggestio
[08:25] <ompaul> kads, that is the second time you have asked that inside two minutes, please wait 15 or so - let new people read it thanks
[08:26] <ketsugi> cdubya: sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice
[08:26] <ketsugi> maybe that will work?
[08:26] <bhav> anyone knows a ipv6 supported TFTPD server\
[08:26] <kads> ompaul: srry
[08:26] <rredd4> Using Kguitar.  When I open a gp4 (guitar pro, which is supported) file and play it, it says:  error opening midi device.  I have libtse3 installed.
[08:26] <cdubya> ketsugi, if that will work, I'll jump for joy....but I'm a pessimist when it comes to these things....I'll try it though.
[08:26] <JoseStefan> How can I set default ports for gnome-btdownload? Is there a config file?
[08:27] <BHSPitLappy> Maje, good news, now frostwire freezes at the same place.
[08:27] <wastrel> JoseStefan:  there's command line switches that let you set the ports... i dunno about a config file -man page doesn't mention one.
[08:27] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: Hit your JRE with a mallet, or poke it with a pointy stick.
[08:28] <JoseStefan> wastrel, i know that part
[08:29] <Madpilot> E_r_i_K, kindly stop nickspamming. Thank you.
[08:31] <M_Fatih> my XGL server crahses randomly :(
[08:32] <ompaul> M_Fatih, that is beta software please take your question to #ubuntu-xgl
[08:32] <christianp> hi all
[08:32] <gbrent> wastrel, ompaul: ssh -X<EMAIL_ADDRESS>kate ---command not found but kate is working on the remote computer and I enabled root
[08:32] <stepner> I am trying to use Festival, and I get "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp" "#<Utterance 0xb74c2a88>"
[08:32] <BHSPitLappy> Maje, I think I've traced the problem down to the theme I was using, believe it or not.
[08:32] <M_Fatih> ompaul, hmm. thanks
[08:32] <BHSPitLappy> and I really like the theme :(
[08:32] <christianp> someone can help me in make ryhthmbox working with mp3? i installed libxine-extracodec, what other?
[08:33] <Maje> BHSPitLappy: Odd, if it loaded at all, I would not have suspected that.
[08:33] <ompaul> !mp3 > christianp
[08:33] <ompaul> christianp, please check out the message from ubotu
[08:33] <wastrel> gbrent:  try the full path to kate - the root account prolly doesn't have it in its command path
[08:33] <gbrent> christianp: ubuntuguide.org has copy paste commands that make it work... b ut "listen" is 10 times better than rythembox
[08:33] <gbrent> ahh
[08:34] <christianp> thanks ompaul gbrent :)
[08:34] <gbrent> np
[08:34] <E_r_i_K> Madpilot: My apologies, I was not nickspamming, but trying to find an unregistered nick from which I could register an unrelated channel.  Sorry for the screen clutter.
[08:35] <gbrent> !rules > gbrent
[08:35] <BHSPitMonkey> Maje, ok, scratch that theory.
[08:35] <maxamillion> any word on a wine package for amd64 in edgy?
[08:35] <Madpilot> E_r_i_K, I wondered if that's what you were doing - screen clutter from that sort of thing on an 800+ user channel is an issue, though.
[08:36] <BHSPitMonkey> maxamillion, you can use wine on amd64 using a chroot. google it.
[08:36] <BHSPitMonkey> (and flash)
[08:36] <christianp> gbrent: where can i find "listen"? i can't find it in multiverse
[08:36] <maxamillion> BHSPitMonkey: flash sucks, but thanks for the info about wine :)
[08:36] <gbrent> christianp: ill get you the repo
[08:37] <RMorris84> i installed xubuntu-desktop and now i want to get my old ubuntu log in screen or maybe help on changing it to something else also maybe?
[08:37] <gbrent> christianp: deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen
[08:37] <christianp> gbrent: thanks again ;)
[08:37] <Maje> Anyone know how to get AAC support in Listen beta .5?
[08:38] <gbrent> christianp: It even auto finds lyrics for the song you are listeng to. No adds on it either
[08:39] <gbrent> np
[08:45] <red> .
[08:45] <red> I just installed.
[08:45] <tom_reinke> Can someone please help me with sound? I've tried the Comprehensive Sound thing on the forums and it still isn't working
[08:45] <alus> how can I set ulimit -n ?
[08:45] <red> Just switched from windows CraP
[08:45] <alus> "ulimit -n 10000" says "Operation not permitted"
[08:46] <red> Wow.
[08:46] <red> -n
[08:46] <tom_reinke> red, congrats, welcome to the dark side
[08:46] <Montag_> red: Grats.
[08:46] <alus> but "sudo ulimit -n 10000" says "command not found"
[08:46] <red> ulimit -n 10000
[08:46] <tourach> apt-get install sudo
[08:46] <alus> sudo: ulimit: command not found
[08:46] <alus> sudo is installed
[08:46] <red> trying to do something under Root?
[08:47] <alus> well if I could set -n any other way, I'd be happy to do that
[08:47] <marshall> hey guys
[08:47] <tom_reinke> Is anyone here good with audio?
[08:47] <wastrel> ulimit is a bash builtin
[08:47] <red> OHyes.
[08:47] <wastrel> so you can't sudo it
[08:47] <red> Let me guess
[08:47] <memn0ch> alus: provide the full path, like sudo /usr/bin/anything -n bla
[08:47] <red> No output in your speakers?
[08:47] <marshall> whats teh command for when you want to switch from sun java to blackdown again?
[08:47] <tom_reinke> red, can you help? I'm on a laptop
[08:47] <printk> there is no path to ulimit
[08:47] <alus> memn0ch: ulimit is a built in bash command
[08:47] <red> Sure.
[08:48] <printk> its like sudo cd
[08:48] <printk> no path to cd
[08:48] <memn0ch> oh, I didn't know that, thx
[08:48] <alus> memn0ch: `which ulimit` is blank
[08:48] <red> right click the speaker (GNOME)
[08:48] <red> choose preferences.
[08:48] <tom_reinke> red, the sound mixer?
[08:48] <red> then at the top there click Edit.
[08:48] <tom_reinke> red, I'm using xubuntu
[08:48] <red> oh...
[08:48] <Montag_> Anyone know where to post XGL bugs/problems?
[08:48] <red> well
[08:48] <tom_reinke> so, if you know any command line stuff that'd be helpful.
[08:49] <red> how ever you get to the screen that shows you each sound device and the volumes for it,.
[08:49] <tom_reinke> alsamixer
[08:49] <tom_reinke> k, there.
[08:49] <cdubya> man, that's crazy.......i've not ONCE had oo.org not be able to handle an excel format file.....guess I found one it wouldn't....bummer
[08:49] <red> ok
[08:49] <gbrent> my old computer has no markings for mouse and keyboard. Is it possible that i have them switched but the keyboard still works?
[08:49] <red> edit should be an option
[08:49] <silents> hey - im having trouble installing ubuntu desktop.. i think its because it runs off the live cd too slow. is there another way to install it?
[08:49] <tom_reinke> red, nevermind, I'm doing this all through the command line.
[08:50] <red> just add all the available sound things.
[08:50] <tom_reinke> There is no GUI for this. which is why I've been without sound ever since the install
[08:50] <red> Ohhh
[08:50] <Madpilot> cdubya, the OOo bug teams would probably like a copy of your excel file, if you can share it
[08:50] <red> Well hold omn a sec