[00:00] <kingfishr> Kaldor: yes
[00:00] <onthefence928> unop: the partition is alreayd designated for swap last i checked
[00:00] <Kaldor> great
[00:00] <joebob777as7> alon_m any other ideas?
[00:00] <unop> nickrud_, just saving us time and frustration :)
[00:00] <chris_> natt after hitting cut we hit paste so it pasted empty folders into the cd/dvd window
[00:00] <chris_> we were trying to burn them
[00:00] <Kaldor> I can finally play quake 3 without dual boot :D
[00:00] <alon_m> joebob777as7, about what ?
[00:00] <unop> onthefence928, ohh well, i guess you don't need mkswap then -- but it can't hurt to run it again to make sure tho
[00:00] <nickrud_> onthefence928,   sudo fdisk -l  will tell you for sure
[00:01] <joebob777as7> alon_m the printers. using the lpstat -t -h localhost:1234 I get this output: system default destination: MFC-8640D_BR-Script3 / device for MFC-8640D_BR-Script3: smb:///<IP_ADDRESS>/brother
[00:01] <tharvey> anyone know how I can configure gdm to use metacity instead of compviz in hardy?  I get strange graphical redraw issues with compviz often
[00:01] <alon_m> DJAdmiral, heres my card  ATI Radeon 9550
[00:01] <joebob777as7> alon_m I tried this: Device URI: http://localhost:631/MFC-8640D_BR-Script3 and got this: Brother "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed"
[00:01] <linxeh> Dmole: you have to put the commands in on stdin. at now + 10 minutes < echo foo.bash   or omething maybe
[00:01] <natt> chris_: weird, so this was like a double problem, (1) you should've selected "copy" but (2) the folders were empty after the move
[00:01] <scifiguy951> !chmod
[00:01] <vasily> Ijust installed Vbox but can not find how can I start it?
[00:01] <DJAdmiral> joebob777as7: I think the best idea is to lower your res to 1024x768, turn off compiz, and then try to run a game in opengl and configure the game's bottle to optimum level
[00:02] <kingfishr> Kaldor: just because a game uses opengl doesn't _necessarily_ mean it has a linux version...in the case of quake III arena there is a linux version, though.
[00:02] <chris_> natt_: to complicate things they were stored on another harddrive that is formatted in a windows file format. I think fat32...
[00:02] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, you need to give your user permission
[00:02] <chris_> natt yes to both.
[00:02] <scifiguy951> how do i get chmod
[00:02] <joebob777as7> DJAdmiral i just turn off compiz and run them at 1600x1200 and they work
[00:02] <linxeh> Dmole: cho foo.bash | at now + 10 minutes
[00:02] <bazhang> vasily, should be in apps, system tools
[00:02] <billenium> For some reason my firefox seems to crash and then i can never open it again until i restart... also at the same time gedit doesn´t work until i restart
[00:02] <linxeh> Dmole: echo foo.bash | at now + 10 minutes
[00:02] <onthefence928> nickrud_: it says it's of type Linux swap / Solaris
[00:02] <natt> chris_: i think it's actually pretty easy to recover files from FAT partitions, but I'm no expert
[00:03] <natt> chris_: google knows everything of course
[00:03] <nickrud_> onthefence928, now run  sudo mkswap /dev/<device> , to be sure it's prepped
[00:03] <Dmole> linxeh: thanks linxeh>	 :)
[00:03] <wolfeySI> billenium: just these two?
[00:03] <ket[a]> how can i burn the cd image to a usb drive?
[00:03] <scifiguy951> how do i change the pernmissions of a file with chmod?
[00:03] <alon_m> joebob777as7, is the listen command only localhost?
[00:03] <HexaneX> I am using USB headphones, I can hear the mic, I can hear the first startup noise, but I don't hear the second startup noise or anything else, help?
[00:03] <unop> onthefence928, nickrud_ - that indicates that the partition is a swap type -- but the actual filesystem could be anything but swap
[00:03] <bazhang> !usb
[00:03] <chris_> I checked google first but strangely words failed me for good search criteria. for this one.
[00:03] <alon_m> joebob777as7, /etc/cups/cupsd.conf under this file
[00:03] <billenium> wofleySI: sometimes my terminal doesnt work.
[00:03] <unop> nickrud_, guess your one step ahead :)
[00:03] <bazhang> see above ket[a]
[00:03] <vasily> buzhung, Ihace Vmware there but not vbox :(
[00:04] <ket[a]> bazhang: thank you
[00:04] <vasily> Paddy, how do I give permissions?
[00:04] <scifiguy951> how do i change the pernmissions of a file with chmod?
[00:04] <unop> scifiguy951, see the chmod manpage for a complete reference
[00:04] <unop> scifiguy951, man chmod
[00:04] <billenium> scifiguy951: chmod <number> /path/to/file
[00:04] <Dmole> linxeh: thats some scary syntax making be think things are done(executed) left to right
[00:04] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, create a "vboxusers" group and add yourself
[00:04] <joebob777as7> alon_m yes it's localhost:631... should I change that to localhost;1234
[00:05] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, a restart maybe required also
[00:05] <wolfeySI> billenium: just one my stupid experience, nothing works if there's not enough virtual memory, ram or swap :) 'free' of course tells that, but i had to reset few times before i realized i dont have swap mounted:)
[00:05] <legend2440> when i type /set irc_conf_mode 0 to toggle xchat part/join messages on and off is it supposed to make change to xchat.conf file? because it didn't
[00:05] <onthefence928> nickrud_, unop, i'm getting Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 4194852 kB
[00:05] <onthefence928> no label, UUID=f252ab10-3aa8-4bff-8073-b98a4cddb6af
[00:05] <onthefence928> is that right?
[00:05] <Paddy_EIRE> brb.. smoke break
[00:05] <unop> onthefence928, it sounds good
[00:05] <joebob777as7> Paddy_EIRE smoke one for me while you're at it
[00:05] <natt> chris_: i would start with "undelete fat32"
[00:05] <moo_cow> nickrud_-> zelrikriando would you give your suggestions to kris19. he's the one having the resolution problem.
[00:05] <sjdurfey> im trying to use the 8.04 LiveCD, but it gets to the login screen and enters an infinite loop and i cannot log in to use it. ive downloaded the iso two seperate times, and neither have worked, can anyone help?
[00:05] <wolfeySI> billenium: i'm not saying that's your problem
[00:05] <billenium> 1gb swap is enough?
[00:05] <onthefence928> unop, nickrud_, what next?
[00:05] <billenium> oh kay
[00:05] <nickrud_> onthefence928, except the swap size is excessive ;)
[00:06] <Paddy_EIRE> joebob777as7, :)
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> HELP! VIRUS, it must be. Every single time I run eMule, aMule, or any varient I get this message just before something bad happens: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png Look at the creepy smiley on it? Is this a virus?!!!
[00:06] <zelrikriando> Hi kris19
[00:06] <vasily> Paddy, Do I use a special software for that?
[00:06] <onthefence928> i was told that double my RAM was a good idea
[00:06] <unop> onthefence928, swapon -s  # to see a list of swap devices, just to make sure it has been activated
[00:06] <scifiguy951> what number?
[00:06] <zelrikriando> kris19, so tell me what is happening exactly
[00:06] <natt> chris_: i think "undelete" is a standard term for this kind of thing, especially in FAT the main difference between a regular file and a "deleted" one is the OS sticks a marker on the file name, it's an unusually trivial change
[00:06] <korn_> anyone experience with using sbuild?
[00:06] <nickrud_> UUID= f252ab10-3aa8-4bff-8073-b98a4cddb6af none            swap    sw              0       0   in /etc/fstab , then sudo swapon -a , then free to see it active
[00:06] <natt> chris_: i think
[00:07] <alon_m> joebob777as7, depends i still dont understand how your connecting since your command you issue shows no remote ip  you enter in ssh -L 1234:localhost:631  which tells it to listen on port 1234 and redirect to 631 but how are you connecting to your remote host with no ipaddress?
[00:07] <vasily> anyone can suggest how can I creat a group?
[00:07] <onthefence928> unop, it doesn't list anything
[00:07] <sjdurfey> im trying to use the 8.04 LiveCD, but it gets to the login screen and enters an infinite loop and i cannot log in to use it. ive downloaded the iso two seperate times, and neither have worked, can anyone help?
[00:07] <kris19> zelrikriando, i need your help configuring an hd tv to the right resolution for ubuntu i can only use 1024 by 768
[00:07] <joebob777as7> alon_m this is my command ssh -L 1234:localhost:631<EMAIL_ADDRESS>remote ip is myoffice.com
[00:07] <unop> onthefence928, ok, do that nickrud_ just suggested
[00:07] <chris_> natt thanks
[00:08] <nickrud_> onthefence928, without the space in the UUID= f
[00:08] <alon_m> joebob777as7, ok got it
[00:08] <legend2440> when i type /set irc_conf_mode 0 to toggle xchat part/join messages on and off is it supposed to make change to xchat.conf file? because it didn't
[00:08] <natt> chris_: are you talking about the "CD/DVD Creator" function you get to from the "Places" menu in your home folder?
[00:08] <alon_m> so you want your lan to listen on 1234 and redirect to 631 on the same machine then
[00:08] <solexious> [Q] How can I change any file in a folder not ending in .txt, end in .txt?
[00:08] <feistel> hi
[00:08] <tharvey> ok... my nfs client now responds with 'server <IP_ADDRESS> not responding, still trying' when trying to nfs mount to my ubuntu hardy nfs-kernel-server - ideas?  (I can nfsmount locally on server)
[00:08] <joebob777as7> alon_m yes that's the goal... :)
[00:08] <unop> alon_m, no, listen locally, connect remotely
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> Can anyone tell me what this message is: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png ???
[00:08] <feistel> I need configuring X
[00:09] <zelrikriando> kris19, did you go to System>Preferences>screen resolution?
[00:09] <alon_m> joebob777as7, correct your issuing the wrong command
[00:09] <kris19> yes i did
[00:09] <scifiguy951> why cant i sign in with root?
[00:09] <kris19> I went to screen resolution
[00:09] <zelrikriando> kris19, so what options you got?
[00:09] <feistel> where ubuntu save the xorg.conf user file?
[00:10] <bastid_raZor> feistel; /etc/X11
[00:10] <legend2440> feistel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:10] <feistel> legend2440, no
[00:10] <joebob777as7> alon_m i'm wanting my machine to listen on port1234  which is my tunnel report. am i running the command backwards?
[00:10] <feistel> there is the global xorg.conf file
[00:10] <unop> feistel, but xorg.conf is no longer necessary as xorg is dynamic now
[00:10] <hybrid_> hi, i had problems with my ati card + drivers of the repos, so ive installed the drivers from ati.com, it worked, my desktop shows up instead of a system freeze. but after the login, my screenturns white and nothing i can do...need help pls
[00:10] <kris19> I have 1024 by 768 and the highest i have is 1280 by 800 at 60 hrz
[00:10] <feistel> unop, I hive dapper
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> I have been recieving unkown IM's from some one or something. and I need to know if it's a virus. See bottom right of screen: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png
[00:10] <alon_m> joebob777as7, hang on one sec
[00:11] <zelrikriando> kris19, ok and if you try 1280 what happens
[00:11] <onthefence928> unop, nickrud_,
[00:11] <onthefence928> swapon: cannot canonicalize /dev/disk/by-uuid/904689f4-4c52-496c-9d7d-1da940646df1: No such file or directory
[00:11] <onthefence928> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/904689f4-4c52-496c-9d7d-1da940646df1: No such file or directory
[00:11] <alon_m> joebob777as7, can you use telnet to verify the port is listening
[00:11] <chris_> natt yes I am
[00:11] <hybrid_> but it works in safe mode of gnome.but not in normal
[00:11] <kris19> the screen says no signal
[00:11] <kris19> I dont understand that
[00:11] <saba> how can i set different wallpapaers on DesktopCube without disabling the desktop view on Nautilus??
[00:11] <unop> feistel, ok, if you are looking for your local xorg.conf, it might be in ~/.xorg.conf -- see the xorg.conf manpage for the list of available .conf files for xorg
[00:11] <ASULutz1> So I have a question. I've recently installed virtualbox in Intrepid (just for testing purposes obviously) and I want to use the .VDI's from my Hardy install in Intrepid. The hardy partition is /dev/sda5, from within Intrepid I did sudo mkdir /media/hardy && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/hardy. Then I tell Virtualbox that the path of my disks is /media/hardy/home/$USER/.VirtualBox/VDI/... Only problem is when I do that it blue screens immedia
[00:11] <scifiguy951> is there an easyier way than chmod to change the permissions of a foldeR?
[00:11] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, how are you going?
[00:11] <alon_m> joebob777as7, also does cups show anything in the que?
[00:11] <chris_> natt have you ever heard of testdisk from cgsecurity.
[00:12] <unop> scifiguy951, right click the file, properties, permissions, etc
[00:12] <zelrikriando> kris19, how is your screen connected?
[00:12] <zelrikriando> kris19, do you have a laptop?
[00:12] <natt> chris_: i just tested the operation you describe, and i didn't get the same result, so i'm not sure that's exactly what happened
[00:12] <__yy> scifiguy951: easier way to chmod than to chmod?
[00:12] <joebob777as7> alon_m it is. lol now when I go to localhost:631 it doesn't work I go to localhost:1234 and it's cups at my work I just don't know how to share it now
[00:12] <scifiguy951> yea
[00:12] <Gaming4JC> yo ASUL_Utzy1: Maybe you can tell me what in the world this thing is in the bottom of my right screen, virri? http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png
[00:12] <kris19> it configures under windows fine and it is configured through vga
[00:12] <nickrud> onthefence928, you should be using the one you got for the swap partition, you quoted it above and that is not the same one
[00:13] <zelrikriando> kris19, please answer me :)
[00:13] <vasily> Paddy - I am reading about groupadd command. Do I need to use any options in this command?
[00:13] <__yy> scifiguy951: what's wrong with chmod?
[00:13] <Dmole> linxeh: that puts something in the queue but executes the command "now" not "now + 3 minutes"
[00:13] <natt> chris_: no, sorry, like i said i'm not a disk-recovery expert, it just sounded like an interesting problem
[00:13] <scifiguy951> when i am in proporties/permissions it says "you are not the owner so you cant change these permissions"
[00:13] <onthefence928> oh i thought the one you told me to type was the same one i had
[00:13] <kris19> it is conected through vga
[00:13] <kris19> cable
[00:13] <solexious> [Q] How can I change, in terminal, any file in a folder not ending in .txt, end in .txt?
[00:13] <moo_cow> zelrikriando-> he's not using a laptop
[00:13] <alon_m> joebob777as7, cant you add a printer locally and point it to that port
[00:13] <scifiguy951> i dont know how to use it, to change the permissions
[00:13] <scifiguy951> ???
[00:13] <zelrikriando> ok
[00:13] <kris19> please help
[00:13] <unop> Dmole, remove the space between + and 3
[00:13] <__yy> scifiguy951: well then you need to chown the file before you can chmod it
[00:14] <alon_m> joebob777as7, also man page says -L  [bind_address:]port:host:hostport
[00:14] <scifiguy951> chown?
[00:14] <__yy> scifiguy951: sudo chown yourusername:youusername filename
[00:14] <onthefence928> nickrud_ i thought the one you told me was the swap drive i had
[00:14] <alon_m> joebob777as7,
[00:14] <kris19> zelrikriando, it is conected through vga
[00:14] <chris_> natt well if you hang in here for a few more minutes I might have accomplished the solution. I'm not an expert either but not a total noob, as a practice I always check here first for help before I strike out on my own, solving a problem.
[00:14] <__yy> scifiguy951: if you don't own the file you can't change the permissions on it
[00:14] <korn_> hello I try to use sbuild: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/389120/ what does this error mean?
[00:14] <linuxcore> j/ #ubuntustudio
[00:14] <zelrikriando> hmm
[00:14] <zelrikriando> not sure
[00:14] <qt> how do i get to starchat.net
[00:14] <vasily> Paddy, I got a message: groupadd: group vboxusers exists
[00:14] <vasily> What does it mean?
[00:14] <scifiguy951> how do i not own the file?
[00:14] <scifiguy951> its a celestia file
[00:14] <nickrud> onthefence928, no, that was my swap uuid. A uuid is a unique identifier, and there is supposed to be no chance than any other device will have the same.
[00:15] <__yy> scifiguy951: I have no idea what that is
[00:15] <Gaming4JC> CAN ANYONE tell me what this message box is doing on my Ubuntu desktop?! Bottom right of the screen, it looks like spyware. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png
[00:15] <magnetron> vasily, it means that the group you are trying to add already exists
[00:15] <scifiguy951> its a program from synaptic
[00:15] <Dmole> linxeh: nojoy ...
[00:15] <joebob777as7> alon_m well now after changing listen port to 1234 in cupsd.conf localhost:631 doesn't exist for modifying local cups settings... but I can go to localhost:1234 which shoes my work's cups server...
[00:15] <kris19> zelrikriando, its a 07:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d0)
[00:15] <__yy> scifiguy951: do: ls -l filename   ... you should see your username in the output
[00:15] <__yy> scifiguy951: if you don't see it you don't own the file
[00:16] <onthefence928> nickrud_ ah ok cuz i sent you my UUID so i thought u just copy-pasted it
[00:16] <alon_m> joebob777as7, ok fine that should be were you point into the new printer to your local @ home machine on port 1234
[00:16] <scifiguy951> it says root
[00:16] <Brian> i debugged my install far enough to see that it reboots on step 5: load components from cd. any ideas what to do next?
[00:16] <__yy> scifiguy951: then root owns the file, which explains why you can't chmod it
[00:16] <unop> solexious,  shopt -s extglob
[00:16] <joebob777as7> alon_m ok i'll try it
[00:16] <scifiguy951> how do i become root?
[00:16] <vasily> magnetron, it is very hard to believe that a group with the same name which I am trying to create already exist :0(
[00:17] <unop> solexious,  and then ..   for i in !(*.txt); do test -f "$i" && mv -vi "$i" "$i".txt; done
[00:17] <unop> solexious, just make sure you change directory to the right directory first before running this
[00:17] <kris19> zelrikriando, i dont understand it is connected through a vga cord
[00:17] <nickrud> scifiguy951, by using sudo  for one command, or sudo -i for a series
[00:17] <__yy> scifiguy951: you can use 'sudo su -' to become root, but what you probably want to do is make it owned by your user, which you can do with 'sudo chown yourusername:yourusername thefilehere'
[00:17] <magnetron> vasily, believe it or not, the group is already there so you don't need to create it
[00:18] <solexious> unop, what does the: shopt -s extglob do?
[00:18] <sjdurfey> im trying to use the 8.04 LiveCD, but it gets to the login screen and enters an infinite loop and i cannot log in to use it. ive downloaded the iso two seperate times, and neither have worked, can anyone help?
[00:18] <Fujisan> hello
[00:18] <vasily> Now can I add myself to this group?
[00:18] <unop> __yy, sudo su  is redundant -- sudo -s or sudo -i is sufficient
[00:18] <feistel> unop, I can find this
[00:18] <Fujisan> i need help
[00:18] <zelrikriando> kris19, I am reading up on it...I dont know why it doesnt work
[00:18] <vasily> Magnetron. Now can I add myself to this group?
[00:18] <feistel> unop, I am using KDM
[00:18]  * Gaming4JC is a ghost... no one can read what I posted... :-/
[00:18] <DrLame> Litx: It didn't change anything except keep me from connecting to freenode
[00:18] <DrLame> Was still on old IP
[00:18] <__yy> unop: interesting, I didn't know that...
[00:19] <magnetron> vasily, yes.
[00:19] <lenix_> anybody knows a good dvb player for ubuntu ? i tried mplayer but changing channels is a pain
[00:19] <DeFirence> can anyone help me with setting up a mysql odbc? defirence@ubuntu:/etc$ isql MySQL
[00:19] <DeFirence> [ISQL]ERROR: Could not SQLConnect
[00:19] <Fujisan> can i get support here?
[00:19] <unop> solexious, extglob turns on bash's extended globbing feature -- allowing you to do things like   ls -l !(*.txt)  # list all files that are not .txt
[00:19] <nickrud> !ask | Fujisan
[00:19] <vasily> Magnetron, how do I add myself to the group?
[00:19] <solexious> unop great, do i need to do it every time i want to prefrm this function, or once per power cycle?
[00:19] <Fujisan> nickrud my ubuntu satanic edition vanished in flames i cant get it to boot
[00:20] <magnetron> vasily, System >administration > users and groups
[00:20] <Shaba1> Hello all
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8653/screenshotar3.png  <-- Some one tell me what the popup is in the bottom right of my screen?!
[00:20] <Shaba1> anyone here have any familiarity with thunar file manager
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> spyware?...
[00:20] <unop> feistel, hmm, it might be that you only have one .conf file for xorg and that is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:20] <nickrud> Fujisan, exorcism time?
[00:20] <feistel> unop, I have many of them
[00:20] <Fujisan> Can I install this on my Ubuntu CHristian distro
[00:20] <Fujisan> Nick__
[00:20] <Gaming4JC> -_- .....
[00:20] <Fujisan> i want to test which ubuntu is better
[00:20] <Fujisan> the christian one
[00:20] <unop> solexious, this needs to done everytime you open up a bash shell session
[00:20] <Fujisan> or the satanic
[00:20] <Fujisan> which is better
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> lol
[00:21] <joe__> ubuntu christian edition?
[00:21] <DrLame> Fujisan: They're both equally fail sounding
[00:21] <solexious> unpo, thank you
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> the Ubuntu normal one, the Ubuntu CE has been discontinued, otherwise I'd get it
[00:21] <Fujisan> http://ubuntusatanic.org/ <--- thats the site
[00:21] <unop> solexious, if you want it to be set automatically -- edit the ~/.bashrc
[00:21] <rand0m> is there a way to be able to still charge an iPod via USB w/ ubuntu ?
[00:21] <Fujisan> so satanists love ubuntu
[00:21] <Gaming4JC> O_o
[00:21] <Fujisan> i reckon
[00:21] <Fujisan> its no joke
[00:21] <mgrant> Gaming4JC: looks like you went to lyad.com and used their messenger app?
[00:21] <__yy> rand0m: you mean apart from plugging it in?
[00:21] <DrLame> Fujisan: Everyone loves ubuntu
[00:21] <unop> rand0m, yes, just plug the ipod in :)
[00:22] <rand0m> i did plug it in.. its not charging
[00:22] <Shaba1> You know I know linux is suppost to be better,faster,stronger
[00:22] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[00:22] <wubrgamer> quick question
[00:22] <Shaba1> but even with ubuntu it is definately NOT for the computer novice
[00:22] <Fujisan> I thougt that something was wrong with open source when Ubuntu Christian Edition apeared, but now this project can fix it and add some flames to the desktops =)
[00:22] <wubrgamer> how do i have my wireless card connect without ANY user intervention
[00:22] <DeadKennedy2880> Fujisan - never underestimate the power of the dark side
[00:22] <wubrgamer> e.g. without network manager
[00:23] <IndyGunFreak> Shaba1: and why do you think its "not for a novice"?
[00:23] <unop> rand0m, hmm, have you tried plugging it in a different USB port?
[00:23] <wubrgamer> or without even logging in
[00:23] <vasily> Magnetron, I guess I do something wrong: I just installed Vbox and I am trying to start it. I can not find an icon for it to click
[00:23] <solexious> unop, lol, didnt mean to hit enter when i was in my home folder
[00:23] <wubrgamer> i'd like to have this wireless-ly connected computer to be used as a printer server
[00:23] <bella> trying to modify xorg. conf , so far every time I edit xorg .conf and restart x, the sytem default to failsafe and I have to use dpkg phigh, so in effect I can edit xorg conf any ideas?
[00:23] <unop> solexious, ouch ouch
[00:23] <__yy> rand0m: have you checked the cable? the usb port? the ipod itself? ... there's nothing at all that should stop you from charging an ipod
[00:23] <feistel> unop, may be KDM use another file?
[00:24] <wubrgamer> anyone?
[00:24] <unop> solexious, that command should have spit out a list -- you could use that list to revert changes
[00:24] <magnetron> vasily, aer you using the virtualbox from their homepage? that's proprietary and i cannot provide any support for it. good luck
[00:24] <Fujisan> I’m afraid the open source movement won’t be fixed because of this. It probably just got itself into more trouble. They aren’t Satanists but communists using Satan’s name to get attention. It would be better not to have anything to do with them. May Satan bless you.
[00:24] <trevor> How do I revoke a lost PGP key?
[00:24] <unop> feistel, maybe -- i don't use KDE tho and am not very familiar with it -- maybe you should ask in #kubuntu
[00:24] <justinram> i got a quick question, im a n00b to ubuntu, and i jsut downloaded Virtual Machine, is there a way to use a windows partition instead of having to install windows all over again?
[00:25] <solexious> unop, it has, going to rename them manualy, then try to make a command to undo it in a folder other tham /home
[00:25] <vasily> magnetron, do you know how to make USB mic work?
[00:25] <trevor> justinram: There is a way to do it.  I found the instructions on Google, but it doesn't work with Vista...
[00:25] <DeadKennedy2880> justinram - you can install ubuntu like a windows program, use 'WUBI'
[00:25] <Gaming4JC> Somebody help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5301467#post5301467 Popups on Ubuntu :(
[00:25] <zelrikriando> kris19, can you give me the output of : dmesg | grep saa7133
[00:25] <mgrant> trevor: find the revocation cert you generated initially and use that - if you don't have one, you're stuck :S
[00:25] <justinram> i have XP
[00:25] <Fujisan> where is the channel for ubuntu satan edition?
[00:25] <Fujisan> DeadKennedy2880
[00:25] <wubrgamer> can anyone hear me?
[00:25] <trevor> mgrant: damn?
[00:26] <wubrgamer> or am i being silenced?
[00:26] <mgrant> wubrgamer: yes
[00:26] <zelrikriando> wubrgamer, what? :)
[00:26] <sjdurfey> im trying to use the 8.04 LiveCD, but it gets to the login screen and enters an infinite loop and i cannot log in to use it. ive downloaded the iso two seperate times, and neither have worked, can anyone help?
[00:26] <wubrgamer> can i have my desktop automatically connect to a network without network-manager or even logging in?
[00:26] <mgrant> trevor: otherwise anyone could revoke any PGP key, which would be bad :S
[00:26] <wubrgamer> wireless network
[00:26] <trevor> Justinram google can help you out...
[00:26] <wubrgamer> i'm sure there is
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> Fujisan; all that is .. is a theme in ubuntu. how gullible do you have to be do believe this. so my theme is OSX .. should i release a UbuntuOSX edition?
[00:27] <nickrud> Fujisan, been away for a bit; don't know where the channel's are for those subdistros, but this one is ubuntu-specific
[00:27] <bella>  Need help with xorg,trying to modify xorg. conf , so far every time I edit xorg .conf and restart x, the sytem default to failsafe and I have to use dpkg phigh, so in effect I can edit xorg conf any ideas?
[00:27] <trevor> mgrant:  I understand the mechanics of it, at least in a basic sense...  I was just wondering how I could remove my busted key from the works.  Since I don't have anyone else to sign it, or the old one for that matter of fact, could I just make a new one?
[00:27] <mgrant> wubrgamer: maybe try a static configuration?
[00:27] <Fujisan> bastid_raZor i used to use ubuntu muslim edition and before that the christian edition so to be even more evil i can switch to the ubuntu satan edition now xD
[00:28] <nickrud> Fujisan, would please cease with the trollling?
[00:28] <__yy> bella: if editing xorg.conf makes X not start then you're editing it wrong ... try looking at the xorg logs to see if it tells you why
[00:28] <Fujisan> and they say MS is evil D:
[00:28] <bastid_raZor> Fujisan; your humor does not amuse me.
[00:28] <minimec> wubrgamer: /etc/network/interfaces is the debian way. the wifi-radar sortware should do too.
[00:28] <DeadKennedy2880> Fujisan - your a nut - rock on ;)
[00:28] <lenix_> Anybody knows if there is a way to make Kaffiene run 16:10 aspect ratio ?
[00:28] <mgrant> trevor: if you have the original private key still, you can revoke it - though you only need to do that if you're worried someone else has it or you want to be sure no-one else uses it
[00:28] <wubrgamer> mgrant: how do i do a static configuration?
[00:28] <mgrant> trevor: otherwise just make a new one (and generate the revocation cert!)
[00:28] <unop> solexious, if you copy that list and put it in a file named file_list in the home directory - this ought to work.   for i in $(cut -d " " -f 1 file_list | tr -d "\`" | tr -d "'"); do mv -vi $i.txt "$i"; done
[00:29] <zcat[1]> The satanic version of linux? Isn't that SUSE?
[00:29]  * nickrud goes off to check for his revoke cert cd
[00:29] <bastid_raZor> Fujisan; the actually fun thing is. you wasted the time to install each when it is only a theme change.
[00:29] <zcat[1]> or was that the sellout version?
[00:29] <HappyHater> I would've thought it was gentoo
[00:29] <Fujisan> nickrud and bastid_raZor i am not trolling those are all legitimate ubuntu distros
[00:30] <solexious> unop, wow, thank you, trying
[00:30] <Fujisan> no discrimination please
[00:30] <mgrant> wubrgamer: I could tell you exactly how to do it on fedora, but I'm new to ubuntu :/  could try the stuff at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/network-configuration.html (random googling)
[00:30] <nickrud> Fujisan, context ;)
[00:30] <zcat[1]> gentoo is the masochist version
[00:30] <DeadKennedy2880> Fujisan - no the yarent
[00:30] <Fujisan> yes they are
[00:30] <bella> yy I have used the same edited line before
[00:30] <DIL_> el rojo
[00:30] <Fujisan> they have websites
[00:30] <unop> !ot | Fujisan
[00:30] <bella> so I think there is something else
[00:30] <nickrud> Fujisan, ok, I'll say you're not trolling but see unop above
[00:30] <Fujisan> so where is the ubuntu satan edition chat channl ?
[00:30] <solexious> unop, that got it, life saver!
[00:30] <Fujisan> so i can leave here
[00:30] <wubrgamer> mgrant your rock!
[00:30] <wubrgamer> thakn you'
[00:30] <zcat[1]> Fujisan: try #windows
[00:30] <Fujisan> haha
[00:31] <Fujisan> windows has no satan edition
[00:31] <__yy> bella: you've used the same change, on the same machine, with the same configuration? And you've checked the logs and they tell you nothing?
[00:31] <DeadKennedy2880> !ot < Fujisan
[00:31] <Fujisan> only ubuntu has that
[00:31] <nickrud> Fujisan, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, those guys will probably enjoy your humor. Too bad this isn't the humor channel ;)
[00:31] <DeadKennedy2880> !ot > Fujisan
[00:31] <kris19> zelrikriando, http://codepad.org/gFWhATKz
[00:31] <evilbug> any clue why ubuntu's eating 30%-35% of my c2d (2.33 gHz) with just xchat, pidgin, and emerald on?
[00:31] <Fujisan> thanks guys
[00:31] <__yy> evilbug: run top and find out
[00:31] <DeadKennedy2880> yw
[00:31] <Fujisan> and thanks ubuntu for that great distro
[00:32] <evilbug> actually, it's more like 54% now...
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> mgrant: Never even heard of lyad.com
[00:32] <Gaming4JC> or their dumb app
[00:32] <evilbug> __yy- run top?
[00:32] <zelrikriando> kris19, doesnt look like the driver is installed does it
[00:32] <unr3a1> what application can I use in Ubuntu to read a *.chm file as a pdf?
[00:32] <__yy> evilbug: open a terminal and type "top"
[00:32] <zcat[1]> evilbug: what does top say?
[00:32] <kris19> zelrikriando, what driver?
[00:32] <mgrant> Gaming4JC: looks like it found you :/
[00:32] <esac> man sometimes i wonder why i switched from windows. videos stop playing after 2 seconds, firefox freezes sometimes, kismet flat out hangs my computer, wireless networking disappears when i plug/unplug a wired connection. and ive only been using it for 2 weeks
[00:33] <evilbug> a lot of stuff...
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> mgrant: How can I get rid of the wicked thing?
[00:33] <__yy> evilbug: well look at the ones at the top of the list... those are the ones using the most cpu
[00:33] <Gaming4JC> mgrant: another thing, adamx is on the same server as some port scans I've been getting.
[00:33] <trevor> mgrant: how do I generate a revocation certificate for a key I don't have anymore?  I just made a new key, and synced it with the Ubuntu Keyserver...
[00:34] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[00:34] <wubrgamer> one more question
[00:34] <kris19> zelrikriando, i have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed
[00:34] <RH> hi all
[00:34] <zelrikriando> kris19, [   46.304094] saa7133[0]: subsystem: ffff:ffff, board: UNKNOWN/GENERIC [card=0,autodetected]
[00:34] <Fujisan> Jack_Sparrow i stopped
[00:34] <wubrgamer> how do i install ubuntu server edition on a computer with no monitor?
[00:34] <mgrant> Gaming4JC: tbh, I have no idea, sorry :/
[00:34] <wubrgamer> it's a regular pc
[00:34] <Fujisan> guys how to i install kde on ubuntu?
[00:34] <wubrgamer> pentium 3
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Fujisan Dont be rude even in pm
[00:34] <zcat[1]> trevor: you're supposed to generate them at the time you make the new key, and store them in a safe place in case you ever need to use them
[00:34] <Fujisan> do*
[00:34] <wubrgamer> fujisan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:34] <evilbug> __yy- that's weird... all of them equal up to maybe 10%, but system monitor shows me a lot more than that.
[00:35] <RH> is there any hardware specification for installing ubuntu 8.04LTS server ?
[00:35] <dolags32128> hey room
[00:35] <[T]an1> i am using mplayer and totem to play a dvd movie, however i cannot use the menus... it does not let me get to them. is there something else out there that will work better for what I need?
[00:35] <zcat[1]> trevor: without the private key there is no way of making a revocation certificate afaik..
[00:35] <scudwork> does anyone know if there is a way to make curl use a network proxy by default rather than having to specify each time?
[00:35] <__yy> evilbug: I'd tust top over system monitor any day
[00:35] <nickrud> [T]an1, try vlc
[00:35] <[T]an1> i tried dvdnav with mplayer, but it did not let me mouse select anything on the menu
[00:35] <[T]an1> downloading vlc... thanks
[00:35] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: The first virus on Ubuntu, invented by adamx (just a guess since I got port scans from his server), and infected with lyad.com (which I've never heard of) or something: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5301467#post5301467
[00:35] <evilbug> __yy- thanks
[00:35] <zcat[1]> scudwork: export PROXY= I think most software will obey that
[00:36] <Fujisan> Ubuntu is a popular Linux distribution, designed with the intent of overthrowing Microsoft Windows as the world’s most widely-used operating system.
[00:36] <bastid_raZor> Fujisan; why are you even speaking?
[00:36] <zcat[1]> ok, now Fujisan is just getting annoying
[00:36] <trashguy> Isnt that most linux distros
[00:36] <Gromit_> weird. I used to develop applications for lyad.com
[00:36] <cottima> hello, I am a 64-bit user.  Is there a way to install a 32-bit app?
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gaming4JC offtopic..   anyone can create a harmful program and if you install things that do not include source from outside our repos you can find one
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[00:36] <Gaming4JC> Jack_Sparrow: I never installed it!
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> -_-
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> anyhow I'm out for now
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> the thing won't stop
[00:37] <cbassett> can somebody help me figure out a way to have a working driver for a realtek 8187B
[00:37] <Gaming4JC> some body tell me gow to get rid of it
[00:37] <cbassett> its wireless
[00:37] <Fujisan> i am making my pc triple boot with different ubuntu distros
[00:37] <julian_> can somebody help me setting a netgear wg111v2 up with ndiswrapper? i cant get rid of the problems
[00:37] <scudwork> zcat[1]: that didn't seem to work
[00:37] <julian_> i can find networks but i cant join them
[00:37] <mint_> do you have the driver cd/
[00:37] <mint_> ?
[00:37] <cottima> thank you Jack_Sparrow
[00:37] <Fujisan> !ot| Fujisan
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cottima np
[00:38] <cbassett> I don't with my realtek
[00:38] <trashguy> Fujisan, you should run PLan9
[00:38] <Fujisan> ubuntu offtopic is unavailable
[00:38] <Fujisan> :(
[00:38] <Fujisan> sends me to unavailable channel
[00:38] <Fujisan> how come?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Fujisan
[00:38] <cbassett> how do you get Hardware Information to show up on preferences?
[00:38] <mint_> hmm wonder if the realtek driver is available online; the wireless card didnt come with a cd?
[00:38] <Lee_> hi does anyone here run ubuntu from a usb flash drive i'm trying to set up a mobile linux install but it just won't boot
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > rh
[00:39] <DeadKennedy2880> Fujisan - do you have a question, this really isint a chat channel
[00:39] <Fujisan> Jack_Sparrow: #ubuntu-offtopic ##unavailable Forwarding to another channel <--- wont werk
[00:39] <Fran89><PHONE_NUMBER>1001110110110100100000011000100110111101110010011001010110010000100000011011010110000101101110001000000011101000101000
[00:39] <cbassett> no it came with the computer and I tried to use the windows drivers downloadable from realtek
[00:39] <mint_> ok this is what i did for wireless
[00:39] <zcat[1]> scudwork: might be http_proxy.. I can't recall, but I used it with wget about three days ago..
[00:39] <cbassett> the 8187 is one that goes into the laptops hardware
[00:40] <Fujisan> Jack_Sparrow i cant join it
[00:40] <cbassett> underneath
[00:40] <tj83> !realtek
[00:40] <mint_> i went to synapic package manager, searched for ndiswrapper, and downloaded the 3 results
[00:40] <zelrikriando> kris19, not sure it can help but try installing this : dov4l  and v4l-conf
[00:40] <tux> anyone use sendmail ?
[00:40] <cbassett> okay
[00:40] <RH> is there any hardware specification for installing ubuntu 8.04LTS server ?
[00:40] <mint_> one of the downloads lets you install the windows driver on ubuntu
[00:40] <mint_> lemme check the name
[00:40] <tj83> mint_ i have the solution for realtek 8187
[00:40] <zcat[1]> scudwork: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[00:40] <cbassett> right i did that but it kept giving me... hang on
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Fujisan Are you banned in there..?
[00:41] <zelrikriando> kris19, that's all I can think of now...it seems like your driver is not configured properly and those might help...not sure
[00:41] <cbassett> it kept giving me invalid driver
[00:41] <trashguy> RH, something 386 olr better ^^
[00:41] <mint_> its called ndisgtk
[00:41] <Fujisan> Jack_Sparrow i made them change the bottext about MS being evil one time they complied and after that i dont know
[00:41] <jeeves__> what should I be checking to find out why ClamAV keeps locking up @ 30%?
[00:41] <DeadKennedy2880> Gaming4JC - you running emule on wine, and got a *virus*. kill wine, the virus will stop
[00:41] <cbassett> tell me anything to help solve the 8187 problem
[00:41] <Fujisan> !vista
[00:42] <Fujisan> used to be different
[00:42] <tj83> cbassett, plz join #Digital-it
[00:42] <Fujisan> i had it changed because it was mean
[00:42] <Fujisan> for no reason
[00:42] <cbassett> okay
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Fujisan Then yes, you are banned in there.. you have reached the last of your warnings in here as well
[00:42] <RH> trashguy well.. can you tell me that the server has a OS like a desktop one or just command line ?
[00:42] <scudwork> zcat[1]: i'm using the environment variables correctly, that's really why i'm confused about it not working
[00:42] <Storrgie> Anyone setup raid 5 on ICH9R?
[00:42] <wolfeySI> why use emule on vine?
[00:42] <monkey_> i have a new external drive and want to format it in such a way that i can read/write to it with linux and read using windows.  what is the best format?
[00:42] <trashguy> RH, server is CLI
[00:42] <zcat[1]> You found a virus that wine will run? That's cool! Wine is getting really compatable with windows now!
[00:42] <wolfeySI> amule is good enough
[00:42] <scudwork> zcat[1]: if I do curl http://ubuntuforums.org -x http://myproxy.com
[00:42] <scudwork> it works fine
[00:42] <trashguy> RH, it is pretty minimalistic and a quick install
[00:43] <zcat[1]> scudwork: perhaps curl doesn't look at http_proxy :(
[00:43] <mint_> cbassett, when you download those 3 from synaptic and it installs, open terminal and type sudo ndisgtk
[00:43] <mint_> sudo ndisgtk
[00:43] <RH> trashguy well can i use the desktop version on a server ?
[00:43] <trashguy> RH, i wouldnt recommned it
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Fujisan You are also banned in kubuntu.. kde4
[00:43] <mint_> it opens ndisgtk and you can search/install windows wireless driver
[00:43] <trashguy> RH, you can download x and stuff for the server
[00:43] <mint_> it worked for me
[00:44] <scudwork> zcat[1]: yeah that may be true, the funny thing is when i configure the proxy through the gnome network proxy gui curl works fine, go figure
[00:44] <trashguy> RH, gui and stuff just waste resources
[00:44] <tj83> cbassett, i would save mint_ suggestions.. but pls join #Digital-it where i can better help you.
[00:44] <DIL_> hi all where are the screensaver images stored
[00:44] <monkey_> i was thinking about formatting in fat32 (which allows read/write for both linux and windows) but i read that it fragments a lot, what other options are there?
[00:44] <cbassett> done
[00:44] <Red_Wraith> Hello all.
[00:44] <cbassett> done
[00:44] <unop> monkey_, ntfs
[00:44] <zcat[1]> scudwork: weird.. open a shell in gnome terminal and see what it might have set for the environment that curl is seeing?
[00:44] <__yy> monkey_: linux can do ntfs read/write
[00:45] <monkey_> __yy, really?  that is amazing!
[00:45] <RH> trashguy i understand but.. i have just started to enter the linux world.. really don't know much about it ..
[00:45] <mint_> but you do need to find a copy of that driver i think whether it be online or on disc.. its an .inf file i think
[00:45] <__yy> monkey_: indeed it is
[00:45] <zcat[1]> !ntfs-3g
[00:45] <jeeves__> anyone?  ClamAV?
[00:45] <RH> trashguy any useful links to study more about it primiarily ?
[00:45] <unop> monkey_, you could do ext or reiserfs -- but that means installing the appropriate drivers on windows - which is not ideal
[00:45] <cbassett> right i tried using a driver but everyone i tried did not work
[00:46] <trashguy> RH,  the forums are good, if you work form the command line you will learn a lot more then clicking stuff
[00:46] <monkey_> __yy, are there any drawbacks (functionally) to using ntfs?
[00:46] <zcat[1]> isn't ntfs3g installed by default? that thingy is misleadin?
[00:46] <mint_> what did you do that the driver didnt work?
[00:46] <scudwork> zcat[1]: apparently the port needs to specified in the environment variable otherwise curl doesn't know what to do
[00:46] <scudwork> zcat[1]: thanks for your help :D
[00:47] <__yy> monkey_: umm, not sure what you mean
[00:47] <unop> zcat[1], it is on recent versions of ubuntu -- but i guess that wiki entry applies to people who still run edgy and earlier
[00:47] <zcat[1]> scudwork: well, yes... only some software assumes 3128 ..
[00:47] <trashguy> Abyone mess with JeOS?
[00:48] <cbassett> i found some material so let me try that
[00:49] <tj83> cbassett. do you want my assistance or not?
[00:49] <tux> anyone configure sendmail before?
[00:49] <cbassett> i cannot find digital-it
[00:49] <tux> I get the error 'Map named "virtuser" not found' when trying `map virtuser @gmail.com` etc..
[00:49] <tj83>  cbassett /join #Digital-it
[00:49] <cbassett> i cannot find digital-it
[00:49] <tj83> just type that
[00:50] <mint_> just click on it
[00:51] <mouseboyx> Is there any way to force video output through the svideo on an nvidia card, becuase its not detecting my tv.
[00:51] <\banlist> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=f5f5f2da5    <--- download this wonderful semi-automatic script for downloading some obsoleted patents (e.g. Arithmetic Coder, LZW, etc.)
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot >  \banlist
[00:53] <Fujisan> Jack_Sparrowdo you know if there is a ubuntu pirates of the caribean edition?
[00:54] <unop> monkey_, perhaps one thing ntfs-3g doesn't really support is setting the right file permissions - it defaults to allowing absolutely everyone access to an object - but i guess that doesn't really matter since you intended on using FAT anyway (something it doesn't support either)
[00:54] <metalgod> i have some trouble with my fresh install with apt-get build-dep gnome-session. apt says it couldn't satisfy dependencies what should i do ?
[00:54] <mouseboyx> Is it possible to force video output through svideo on an nvidia card?
[00:55] <zcat[1]> ntfs's idea of permissions is completely alien to Linux.. and I expect not well documented either..
[00:56] <Narfee> Why when Totem Player in opened, There's no sound in firefox, and when Skype is opened, there's no sound in Totem, nor firefox... there's only one app that has the right to the sound...
[00:57] <unop> zcat[1], well the older ntfs driver (not ntfs-3g) understands ntfs permissions and will report them right -- just not the fuseblk/ntfs-3g one - i guess if the guys from ntfs-3g really wanted, they could support permissions and properly - but no one's complaining so far, and thats a good thing
[00:57] <DeadKennedy2880> narfee - ive noticed that also, good question
[00:57] <Narfee> :)
[00:59] <zcat[1]> unop: Most of the time I only need to read anyhow, to recover someone's documents after XP has shit itself and won't boot.. I don't have anything dual-boot at home so no other reason I ever need to deal with ntfs.
[00:59] <cocox_> hi do you know how could i desactivate fsck in ubuntu feisty fawn? because is annoying that each time my system hangs and reboot i have to wait like 30 minutes before i could use my computer...
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[00:59] <zcat[1]> cocox_: with ext3 it should need to do an fsck every time..
[00:59] <zcat[1]> err shouldn't
[00:59] <cocox_> zcat[1] there is no way ?
[00:59] <Narfee> nobody knows ?????????
[01:00] <unop> cocox_, tune2fs ought to help -- see its manpage
[01:00] <zcat[1]> cocox_: if it needs to do an fsck, there's probably good reason for it and you shouldn't force it not to
[01:00] <CorbinFox> is there a way to find out what my primary/secondary DNS numbers are?  Ifconfig doesnt tell me which they are
[01:00] <cocox_> zcat[1] but believe me it sucks... i need to go to a meeting and i have to wait 30 minutes
[01:00] <wolfeySI> CorbinFox: /etc/resolv.conf
[01:01] <wolfeySI> if you have it configured
[01:01] <cocox_> CorbinFox look at /etc/resol.conf
[01:01] <DeadKennedy2880> Im having trouble using multiple apps - if both need sound, sometimes one wont get it, is there a workaround?
[01:01] <sloopy> not letting fsck run when needed is the quick way to get a windows 'emulator'
[01:01] <metalgod> any idea how to fix this ?
[01:01] <zcat[1]> cocox_: tune2fs will let you do the schedules 20-mount, 30-days checks less often. If it's doing an fsck every time you reboot or even after every crash, there is something seriously screwed up with your install
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] agreed
[01:02] <trashguy> CorbinFox, cat /etc/resolv.conf in cli
[01:02] <cocox_> zcat[1], unop ok thank you guys ... i will read about this..
[01:03] <unr3a1> does anyone know of any applications in Ubuntu that can read a chm file?
[01:03] <CorbinFox> i just opened up resolv.conf in gedit but it only lists my ip address and not my DNS? or am i being stupid?
[01:03] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: xchm
[01:03] <unop> unr3a1, gnochm
[01:03] <unr3a1> wolfeySI, can I get that through apt-get?
[01:03] <zcat[1]> cocox_: also if you upgrade to gutsy, the scheduled checks are much nicer (they appear under the GUI splash screen) and you have the option of postponing them until the next reboot, handy if you need the machine up right away.
[01:03] <unop> unr3a1, yes to both
[01:03] <unr3a1> sweet
[01:03] <unr3a1> ty
[01:03] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: yes, perhaps also what unop said
[01:03] <cocox_> zcat[1] yeah that is what i need
[01:03] <Narfee> DeadKennedy2880:: I wish someone would listen
[01:03] <Narfee> :P
[01:03] <unr3a1> ty
[01:04] <Nicekiwi9> howdo i setup a system proxy in xubuntu 8.04?
[01:04] <cocox_> zcat[1] but actually i have gutsy gibbon
[01:04] <cocox_> zcat[1] and fsck runs in a terminal...
[01:04] <unr3a1> to both of you.. ty
[01:04] <DeadKennedy2880> narnee - they hear, sometimes the answer isint known, ill try another day tho
[01:04] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: btw
[01:04] <zcat[1]> cocox_: well, not sure what's going on there; upgrade or fresh install?
[01:04] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: apt-cache search program
[01:04] <unop> CorbinFox, it could be that your own machine is a DNS server
[01:04] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: you can see yourself:)
[01:04] <unr3a1> wolfeySI, ok
[01:04] <sloopy> Narfee, i am 'listening' but since i am deaf i dont know much about troubleshooting sound problems ;')
[01:04] <cocox_> zcat[1] upgrade
[01:04] <unr3a1> wolfeySI, thanks.  :)
[01:05] <unop> CorbinFox, in any case - you can adjust those values to set new primary and secondary DNS servers
[01:05] <zcat[1]> cocox_: hmmm.. might be an idea to back up /home and do a fresh install.. all of my upgrades have never worked that well.
[01:05] <CorbinFox> what i am trying to do is configure my DS to run on my router XD
[01:05] <cocox_> zcat[1] allrigth thank you !
[01:05] <Narfee> sloopy:: thanks for your listening
[01:06] <DeadKennedy2880> narnee - i find it a very minor problem tho, not life or death trouble with it.
[01:06] <CorbinFox> it seems like it may be working now, it is showing a connection for longer than before, so maybe that did it
[01:06] <unr3a1> now I also heard that you can extract chm files to pdf
[01:06] <unr3a1> how would I do this?
[01:06] <mikkel> my server is experiencing a serious slashdot effect (very slow) but the processor/memory are under 30% used. can someone help me with optimizing things?
[01:06] <dolags32128> my xserver keeps restarting when i hit backspace to delete a whole line of text i'm using hardy any tips?
[01:06] <Narfee> DeadKennedy2880:: I know, but it would make my ubuntu perfect
[01:07] <eyyYo> Is there a way to get locate to include my truecrypt partition in every search?
[01:07] <Narfee> DeadKennedy2880:: it sucks cuz I can't be on youtube, and be on my skype at the same time
[01:07] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/convert-.chm-to-.pdf-or-text-419697/
[01:07] <Narfee> on listening to music
[01:07] <unop> dolags32128, are you sure you aren't pressing CTRL+ALT by mistake/intention when hitting backspace ?
[01:08] <arooni-mobile> award bios, core 2 duo @ 2.13 ghz.  do i want to enable/disable "CPU Internal Thermal Control"?  (it does get hot in my room)
[01:08] <wolfeySI> unr3a1: but if you print anything as postscript to file ps2pdf works too :)
[01:08] <dolags32128> no i just held down backspace to delete the url in firefox and it restarted the xserver
[01:08] <arooni-mobile> award bios:  do i want to enable plus & play O/S?  (running ubuntu hardY)
[01:09] <sloopy> arooni-mobile, yes, yes
[01:09] <DeadKennedy2880> arooni-mobile - yes on both
[01:09] <dolags32128> this is the second time this has happened too.....once a couple of months ago before i switched to windows then it happened again now that i'm back
[01:09] <unop> dolags32128, two things could be wrong -- one, your ctrl+alt keys might be stuck down (faulty keyboard) -- two, firefox is somehow crashing so bad it causes X to quit ? so question, does the backspace problem manifest itself in other applications other than firefox?
[01:10] <sharperguy> can anyone recommend a nice RSS reader for gnome?
[01:10] <FelixTheCat> That was odd ... was switching between programs and started getting some awful squealing/screeching through the speakers and couldn't mute it.
[01:10] <arooni-mobile> award bios: i have a pci express grahpics card:  do i want primary display adapter to be pci express ? or pci?
[01:10] <dolags32128> yes it does....i was going to delete something i typed in pidgin and same thing happened
[01:10] <sloopy> sharperguy, i think evolution does rss
[01:10] <mindrape> FelixTheCat: that was the shreeking eels. They make that noise just before they attack.
[01:10] <wers> what's the code that will give me timed shutdown? :)
[01:11] <mindrape> wers - man shutdown
[01:11] <FelixTheCat> mindrape: I do not think that means what you think it means. :)
[01:11] <mindrape> lol.
[01:11] <arooni-mobile> DeadKennedy2880, sloopy what do those options actually do?
[01:11] <djzn> folks, do I need to have a /home separate from the / partition
[01:12] <FelixTheCat> LOVE that movie - as close to a chick flick as I'll admit.
[01:12] <sharperguy> sloopy, oh hmm ill check that out
[01:12] <unop> dolags32128, hmm, not sure i know what could be causing this - all i can suggest is you upgrade to the latest version of xorg to hopefully rectify the problem
[01:12] <sloopy> arooni-mobile, the internal thermal thing makes the cpu shutdown when it hits the critical temp
[01:12] <FelixTheCat> djzn: It helps when you upgrade to have a separate /home partition.
[01:12] <unop> djzn, it's not necessary -- but recommended
[01:12] <mikkel> sorry to repeat, but: my server is experiencing a serious slashdot effect (very slow) but the processor/memory are under 30% used. can someone help me with optimizing things?
[01:12] <SAIDias> howdy
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !info sqlite3
[01:13] <sloopy> tand plug and play lets the OS control the config of hardware resources
[01:13] <arooni-mobile> sloopy, what about plug& play?
[01:13] <HardDisk> when I log to my router in my installed ubuntu I cant see the middle page of the setup, keeps saying connecting etc. I tried opera same thing flushed my iptables same thing when I use a livecd it works fine removed my .mozilla and purged firefox and reinstalled again http://dump.no/files/29dedf8dac8b/Screenshot.png
[01:13] <buffalochicken> how do i run chkdsk
[01:13] <HardDisk> buffalochicken, sudo fsck --help remember to run it from an UNMOUNTED drive ie use a livecd
[01:13] <unop> buffalochicken, linux has no chkdsk -- it has a fsck tho
[01:14] <djzn> but when I upgrade... can I simply delete all folders and leave the /home undeleted in the ext3 fs... and then install ubuntu on the same partition, this would be the same as not deleting home (of course i dont let the installer format the partition)
[01:14] <dolags32128> i think it just got updated lol i know this is sounding more and more complex....lol
[01:14] <buffalochicken> is there defragging?
[01:14] <djzn> because I don`t like the idea of the drive being forced to seek ahead
[01:14] <HardDisk> buffalochicken, no.
[01:14] <unop> buffalochicken, linux needs no defrag tool
[01:14] <djzn> partitioning schemes forces the drive heads read further
[01:14] <SAIDias> I recently installed VMwareServer Beta 2.0.  I have a vm webserver server running (guest), and I am unable to access it.  My network interface is in BRIDGE mode, and my VM server is able to get a DHCP address, but I can't access it.  any ideas?
[01:15] <SAIDias> I have the unbuntu firewall disabled
[01:15] <HardDisk> anyway if anyone read my request, I'd be happy if there was an answer, I will repeat in a bit.
[01:15] <unop> djzn, the counter-argument is that a seperate partition helps improve performance as there is a lower latency in seek times
[01:16] <zcat[1]> unop: how does that work?
[01:16] <dolags32128> going to try a different version of the frglx and see if that rectifies the situation
[01:16] <djzn> unop: i have 160GB, can do you recommend 20GB for / partition and swap in the end of the drive?
[01:16] <zcat[1]> unop: I can understand that if it was /home on a different physical disk..
[01:16] <sloopy> harddisk, i dunno i use a machine running xubuntu as my router
[01:17] <HardDisk> it's a weird incident
[01:17] <HardDisk> and I can't even view imageshack.us for example
[01:17] <unop> zcat[1], not sure about the technical details of it - i remember reading it on some tutorial on maintaining disk efficiency
[01:17] <orphean> zcat[1]: it improves seek times due to the way the head reads data from the platter.  on a seperate partition the head can move directly to the swap area without having to find it on the main filesystem
[01:17] <HardDisk> all my network settings are back to default, very strange
[01:17] <cronin> I want to run Ubuntu on my Mac... is there a good tutorial?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> HardDisk: kernel upgrade>
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[01:18] <HardDisk> that is possible IndyGunFreak
[01:18] <HardDisk> 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:18] <zcat[1]> orphean: that's only for swap though...
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> HardDisk: i had to recompile my atheros driver the other day, due to a kernel upgrade.
[01:18] <orphean> zcat[1]: unless you need really high preformance for some reason its not a huge deal.
[01:18] <ozzloy> i expect to get images from a camera one at a time, about 3 per second.  i'd like to turn that into a video stream.  how do i do that?
[01:18] <FelixTheCat> cronin: is that a powerPC or intel mac?
[01:18] <bastid_raZor> djzn; that is agood idea.
[01:18] <cronin> FelixTheCat: a powerpc
[01:18] <djzn> zcat: don`t you agree that partitioning the drive raises the seek time between partitions and fragments the available space, going unnefficient?
[01:18] <HardDisk> IndyGunFreak, my network card is standard, weird phenomenon.  I will try a lesser kernel, maybe that is the issue.
[01:18] <HardDisk> good thinking :)
[01:18] <unop> orphean, i'm not sure that explains it right tho -- the disk seek should be the same that way, partitioned or not -- as the file system table should maintain a pointer/index to where a file can be found
[01:18] <orphean> zcat[1]: well its any file.  since it breaks the disk up into chunks, and ext3 knows what chunk a file is on the head can move to the right area without seeking as much
[01:19] <ozzloy> i have found how to make a sequence of images into a movie using mencoder and ffmpeg, but that requires having a bunch of files already.  i'd like to append the jpgs to a video stream as they come in from the camera
[01:19] <ozzloy> is that possible?  and how?
[01:19] <sugrob> How i can send /dev/urandom or simething else to tcp socket?
[01:19] <orphean> unop: it doesn't eliminate seek, it reduces it
[01:19] <evil_tech> anyone install VMware Server 1.06? I have a question I can't find an answer to
[01:19] <ozzloy> or where should i look?  my google foo fails me
[01:19] <HardDisk> IndyGunFreak, bbl :) good idea
[01:20] <djzn> bastid_raZor: what idea was good? deleting the folders and leaving /home?
[01:20] <bastid_raZor> evil_tech; #vmware is a good place to look too, if help isn't found here.
[01:20] <amenado> sugrob-> try netcat to send it out..i dont know how to do it on top of my head
[01:20] <evil_tech> bastid_raZor:i'll try there thanks
[01:20] <zcat[1]> djzn: I would think so, but only slightly. There are advantages to having /home on it's own partition though.. easier to reinstall if you need to; and if you run out of space on /home you just run out of space.. if you do the same on / things can get horribly broken
[01:20] <hexoroid> when i type echo -e "\x31\x33\x33\x32\x62"; it gives me the ascii is there anyway to convert it from ascii to hex ?
[01:20] <bastid_raZor> djzn; making that partition table .. 20GB for / and /swap at the end. i'm unsure how well your leaving /home idea will work.
[01:20] <avis> how can i tell if ubuntu sees my floppy disk ?  nautilus doesn't list it in "Computer" though i do have an existing /media/floppy0
[01:20] <FelixTheCat> cronin: I'm looking...
[01:21] <cronin> FelixTheCat: thanks!
[01:21] <sugrob> amenado,  thanks I'll try
[01:21] <indio> Hi. How do I set COPYDIR variable in the shell?
[01:21] <orphean> avis: put a floppy in it :) if you have /media/floppy0 ubuntu picked it up
[01:21] <dolags32129> happens when i hold down the backspace for more than half a second
[01:21] <djzn> yes, for example.... i boot the liveCD, then I access the ext3 drive... and delete everything BUT NOT /home... and when choosing the partitions, I choose not to format them... it would be quite the same right?
[01:22] <sloopy> indio, COPYDIR=data should work
[01:22] <alapidas> Hi all - I am having problems with my ubuntu box crashing and rebooting by itself on a random basis.  I run the proprietary nvidia drivers, and when I turn them off I see the crashes disappear.  But, I installed the new 173 driver and now I can;t get the nvidia drivers to work at all.  I even tried reverting and it still doesnt work.  any ideaS?
[01:22] <indio> Thanks sloopy
[01:22] <zcat[1]> djzn: I think that will work, but I wouldn't risk it with my data ;)
[01:22] <bastid_raZor> djzn; is /home on a partition by itself already?  it sounds risky anyway you go with that idea
[01:22] <djzn> zcat: in terms of file placement, there could be a possibility of system files not being in the beginning of the disk right?
[01:22] <FelixTheCat> cronin: not sure if you have this yet, but here is the link to get the ppc version (among others): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.04/release/
[01:23]  * FelixTheCat is still looking
[01:23] <djzn> risky for a dumb right..LOL... not me who knows WHAT to delete?
[01:23] <cronin> FelixTheCat: thanks i'll take a look
[01:23] <bastid_raZor> djzn; theoretically that will work though.
[01:23] <zcat[1]> djzn: the other thing you can do is resize the partition and make a new one for /, then move /home/* to / on that partition and after installing to the new /, mount the old partition as /home
[01:23] <yedda1> guys... with broken updates all the time, how can you ever think, that would attract people towards linux and away from win?
[01:23] <sloopy> djzn, i would suggest you backup /home and repartition with a seperate /home
[01:23] <c0rrupted_mind> I'm having a problem with iptables. when I try to restore my iptables from a saved rules file I get Bad argument 'logdrop'. Here's some verbose and the rules file I'm trying to use... http://pastebin.com/d1074c30e
[01:23] <dolags32129> my xserver keeps restarting if i hold down just backspace for more than half a second
[01:24] <yedda1> this one is major: my terminal won't start from within ubuntu lol
[01:24] <djzn> the thing is, I dont want to partition... i don`t want to have a `gap` between system and data files... the seek time will grow
[01:24] <djzn> and the possibility of ubuntu installation grow over 20GB, i will be lost!
[01:24] <zcat[1]> djzn: the safest thing to do is tar.gz /home onto a USB drive, then reinstall, then restore the backup..
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> yedda1 Offtopic, but you are causing your own problems by going outside our repos
[01:25] <Silverzrishi> hi guys
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> djzn; on a 160G drive you have little worries of seek time.
[01:25] <Silverzrishi> im an ubuntu noob i need help
[01:25] <unop> hexoroid, perl -le 'print map { sprintf "%X", ord $_} split //, shift' $(echo -e "\x31\x33\x33\x32\x62")
[01:25] <bastid_raZor> djzn zcat[1]'s idea is best.. tar it to a flash drive then copy it back.
[01:25] <djzn> bastid_razor: I know, but what if the system partition grows smaller... like compiling stuff.... grows over 20GB....
[01:26] <djzn> bastid_razor: my home will be like 40GB of data
[01:26] <djzn> and not a usb stick LOL
[01:26] <bastid_raZor> djzn; sadly i have only a 10G / and a 290G /home and 2G /swap .. i do not have seek issues.
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> djzn External drive or whatever backup medium suits your needs
[01:26] <zcat[1]> djzn: USB -drive- ; they start at about 160G for a small one...
[01:27] <djzn> ok so I should really have a home separate, no matter what
[01:27] <unop> djzn, personally i think that unless you are using a really old drive where the seek time is relatively slow - it shouldn't make much of a difference in terms of measurable performance whether or not you partition your disk
[01:27] <orphean> i agree
[01:27] <djzn> my concern is not much seek time
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> djzn yes. sep home is the best choice
[01:27] <Silverzrishi> hi guys i need help
[01:28] <unop> djzn, the advantages of having a seperate home partition outweight the negative side effects of having one
[01:28] <sloopy> djzn, do 'du -h --max-depth=1' in /home and it will tell you how big your folder is
[01:28] <orphean> Silverzrishi: just ask your question.
[01:28] <djzn> my concern is not making the use of the drive efficient, like going out of space in root partition and tons of space in home still left
[01:28] <tj83> ?
[01:28] <zcat[1]> djzn: 20G will be HEAPS for / anyhow.. even after you install a bunch of stuff..
[01:28] <djzn> 20 GB will it be enough for ANYTHING
[01:28] <djzn> i mean, KDE compiles, stuff like that
[01:28] <bastid_raZor> my 10G / is nearing full.. but i do have heaps of apps installed
[01:29] <zcat[1]> djzn: you ought to be compiling stuff in /home anyhow... you don't build as root do you?
[01:29] <FelixTheCat> cronin: Most of the stuff I'm finding is rather old. Here are two: http://weblog.techdad.net/2006/11/12/dual-boot-mac-osx-and-ubuntu/ and http://weblog.techdad.net/2006/11/13/dual-boot-mac-osx-and-ubuntu-part-ii/
[01:29] <unop> djzn, personally, i seperate / /usr /var /tmp /opt swap and /home - and i don't feel my system slow down -- plus i get the advantage of managing each mount point seperately to perhaps improve performance
[01:29] <cronin> FelixTheCat: thanks again, i'll check them out
[01:29] <zcat[1]> ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[01:29] <Nanovox> Is anyone on that can explain where the edgy mirror went?
[01:29] <FelixTheCat> cronin: enjoy!
[01:30] <djzn> i am concerned about space efficiency
[01:30] <djzn> for example
[01:30] <djzn> the windows partition was 8GB when I last formatted
[01:30] <Silverzrishi> orphean: i am using 2 OS on 2 seperate harddrive now, one is windows xp, the other is ubuntu
[01:30] <sloopy> with a HD that large it wont be much of an issue
[01:30] <djzn> it is almost full and complaining
[01:30] <djzn> what about swap
[01:30] <amenado> djzn have you look at LVM  for space efficiency and forward looking for upgrades?
[01:30] <djzn> do I put it inbetween or do i put it last
[01:30] <bastid_raZor> djzn; buy a bigger drive.. 180$ for a TB drive.. i'm soon to purchase myself.
[01:31] <orphean> what about swap? this isn't System V, your swap isn't going to fill up.
[01:31] <DeadKennedy2880> bastid_raZor - agreed
[01:31] <djzn> my swap does not even get written ever
[01:31] <djzn> i have 4 GB
[01:31] <djzn> of RAM
[01:31] <sloopy> i just picked up two SATA300 500Gib drives for $80US each
[01:31] <zcat[1]> djzn: up to 1G of ram, swap should be 2x ram.. beyond 1G, I just stick with 2G or swap=ram
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> djzn 4 gig swap
[01:31] <unop> djzn, if i were you, i would try and place swap on a partition of a seperate physical drive  if possible -- otherwise i don't really care where it goes
[01:31] <orphean> if you're worried about swap getting in the way of other things just tack it on before the ubuntu paritions or after them
[01:32] <Silverzrishi> orphean: how do i mount up my windows xp harddrive on my ubuntu desktop everytime i start up my computer
[01:32] <odinsbane> I have a video playing and I just moved a file over the video.  Is there a way to save it?  The movie is still playing and has no problems
[01:32] <djzn> 4 gig swap? my 2GB swap DOESNT ever get written at all
[01:32] <dolags32129> my xserver keeps restarting if i hold down just backspace for more than half a second
[01:32] <mozul> can anyone tell me why i don't have the windows network settings in my network settings pane under general when I do have samba installed (8.04)?
[01:32] <c0rrupted_mind> I'm having a problem with iptables. when I try to restore my iptables from a saved rules file I get Bad argument 'logdrop'. Here's some verbose and the rules file I'm trying to use... http://pastebin.com/d1074c30e
[01:32] <bastid_raZor> sloopy; where did you find that deal?
[01:32] <unop> djzn, zcat[1], well, if he were using suspend-to-disk -- he might want to consider enough space for the contents of memory to reside on swap
[01:32] <orphean> Silverzrishi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770294
[01:32] <zcat[1]> djzn: you reboot too often then
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> djzn If you have 4 gig of ram, and space to burn. make a 4 gig swap so you have the ability to suspend if you want to at some point in time
[01:33] <sloopy> bastid_raZor, when taxes came i just walked into (worst) best buy and was on shelf
[01:33] <you_cant_see_bla> vista is much betetr than ubunto
[01:33] <amenado> whats using this new  securityfs  mounted on /sys/kernel/security  ?  something recent I just noticed...
[01:33] <unop> !ot  | you_cant_see_bla
[01:33] <djzn> you all guys use suspend to ram?
[01:33] <Silverzrishi> orphean: is there a commandline to do it everytime i start up my computer automatically?
[01:33] <you_cant_see_bla> ubuntu likes the cock in and around the mouth
[01:33] <dolags32129> my xserver keeps restarting if i hold down just backspace for more than half a second
[01:33] <zcat[1]> unop: that's why swap=ram, no matter how much ram.. once you get past 2G you don't really need swap except to hibernate
[01:33] <djzn> listen, suspend to RAM... can it be disconnected from Power cable?
[01:33] <metalgod> any emacs users got problems reading ~/.emacsrc ?
[01:34] <odinsbane> Is there any chance I can save this movie?
[01:34] <orphean> Silverzrishi: just follow the instructions in that link and it'll come up on login
[01:34] <Plazma> is there a url out there that describes the differences between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server ?
[01:34] <sloopy> i dont insult my machines with emacs... (no, i am not a vi person... i swear ;')
[01:34] <Yasumoto> Plazma: essentially, you don't have the graphical interface- no mouse/gnome/kde
[01:34] <Plazma> sloopy,  their all just tools, but i myself prefer vi for the fact its everywhere
[01:35] <metalgod> sloopy: emacs does everything :)
[01:35] <orphean> Plazma: server is just regular ubuntu with a different install disk and a different set of base packages that are preinstalled.
[01:35] <odinsbane> I'm thinking maybe totem caches the file somehow.
[01:35] <Yasumoto> Plazma: you also have the options to install an ssh server, a web server, a dns server, mail server, and maybe others (proxy server?) straight from the install
[01:35] <orphean> Plazma: they do some extra configuration stuff for you in ubuntu-server.
[01:35] <metalgod> you even got a psycoterapist
[01:35] <Silverzrishi> orphean: hi but i did not see the link u posted, can u please post it again ?
[01:35] <unop> sloopy, you must be a master in the zen of gedit
[01:35] <arooni> hey team;  i use unison to login and sync my files from my laptop to my desktop (both running ubuntu hardy).  in the log file i'm seeing:  Permission denied (publickey,password).  ... so im not sure how to fix this?
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> anybody successfully applied the ICQ patch on pidgin?
[01:35] <sloopy> when i started using unix (1980 somthin) the machine i had could run emacs very well so i used vi
[01:35] <orphean> Silverzrishi: Sure! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770294
[01:35] <Plazma> Not to sound like a troll, but does Ubuntu still put "kid gloves" on you when you try to do anything system related.. like rebuliding a kernel.. etc?
[01:36] <orphean> Plazma: yes.
[01:36] <Silverzrishi> orphean: ok thank alot
[01:36] <bastid_raZor> IndyGunFreak; ICQ is still a usable protocol?
[01:36] <Plazma> orphean, is there anyway around that?
[01:36] <Nanovox> When was edgy taken off of http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and where is it now?
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: of course..
[01:36] <unop> Plazma, i wouldn't say so - it's not much different from how debian does it - and i can swear debian does not allow for "kid gloves" :)
[01:36] <orphean> Plazma: you can still rebuild the kernel the old debian way if you want, but it makes your system unsupportable.
[01:36] <sloopy> unop, no dont use gedit...
[01:37] <Plazma> orphean, ahh i see
[01:37] <Plazma> i like gedit...
[01:37] <orphean> Plazma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[01:37] <rand0m> could someone tell me how to make avant window navigator open upon boot?  for some reason i always have to open it in order for my tasks to dock
[01:37] <Plazma> orphean, thanks a lot
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: it seems they done some upgrade though(ICQ/AOL did), and its causijng pidgin to disconnect, i'm patching my source now and recompiling.. wondering if anyone had luck w/ it.
[01:37] <odinsbane> Thanks anywasy.
[01:37] <acp_> hi is there a problem with http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.8-1ubuntu0.2_i386.deb? Im trying to install lamp via synaptic pkg manager and I got this error W: Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-utils_2.2.8-1ubuntu0.2_i386.deb
[01:37] <acp_>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:37] <bastid_raZor> IndyGunFreak; good luck
[01:37] <unop> sloopy, ok you old ed-using propagandist -- stay on topic ;)
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: lol, i'll know here in a sec.
[01:37] <acp_> is it the site or is just me?
[01:37] <orphean> rand0m: Go to System->Preferences->Sessions and click the Add button.
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> acp_ have you changed any of your sources
[01:38] <Plazma> orphean, so in the ubuntu-server , do you have the option of installing various things at install, like kde/gnome or the like?
[01:38] <acp_> no
[01:38] <orphean> rand0m: AWN for named, avant-window-navigator for the command, whatever you want for comment.
[01:38] <sloopy> unop, ed... what real unix geeks have for breakfast ;')
[01:38] <acp_> im just using the outof the box
[01:38] <orphean> Plazma: yeah its the same repos
[01:38] <zcat[1]> acp_: that url is 404
[01:38] <acp_> source.list
[01:38] <acp_> mm
[01:39] <orphean> Plazma: The only difference is what gets installed by default, and if you choose to install something like a LAMP stack from the install cd it comes preconfigured.
[01:39] <Plazma> orphean, so if i were to run a mail server and a web server and some other 3rd party serves (say dovecot or the like).. would server be teh choice.. or can they run the same on desktop too
[01:39] <rand0m> perfect, thanks orphean
[01:39] <orphean> Plazma: everything else is the same.
[01:39] <zcat[1]> acp_: I'd try a different mirror .. sometimes they aren't as synched as they ought to be
[01:39] <sloopy> use a printing terminal and you will appreciate ed... so will the trees
[01:39] <Plazma> orphean, preconfigured how?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> acp_ what country are you in.. use pastebin and post your /etc/apt/source.list
[01:40] <orphean> Plazma: in the sense that its "reasonably setup" for basic security/preformance.  Since you were talking about kernel compiling, you will want to further change things I'm sure. :)
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] I tried three and it was not found
[01:40] <Plazma> orphean, right right, i jsut wanted to know what it "preconfigures" is all, and if it's preconfiguration gets in the way of my needs.. but if it's really basic stuff then it wont be a big deal
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !find apache2-utils
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !info apache2-utils
[01:41] <orphean> Plazma: its nothing that has ever got in the way for me personally. if you need a specific setup then I recommend installing everything yourself.
[01:42] <m_newton> hello guys
[01:42] <mat__> hello
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> zcat[1] Something is up as he is trying to get the wrong version
[01:42] <orphean> Plazma: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features that's a decent link to get started looking into exactly what ubuntu-server does
[01:42] <Plazma> orphean, thanks again
[01:43] <Plazma> orphean, in your expert opinion.. and once again not trying to sound like a troll, why would you choose ubuntu server over say centos?
[01:43] <m_newton> !vote
[01:43] <m_newton> !opinion
[01:43] <kholerabbi> when is 8.04.1 released?
[01:43] <l3d> ok I have dual booted opengeu and I  would like to remove it but dont want to mess this install of ubuntu up how would i do that
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !botabuse > m_newton
[01:44] <orphean> Plazma: honestly just preference.  I've used centos on lots of dedi's but if there's an option for ubuntu server i take it
[01:44] <\banlist> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=f5f5f2da5    <--- download this wonderful semi-automatic script for downloading some obsoleted patents (e.g. Arithmetic Coder, LZW, etc.)
[01:44] <m_newton> kholerabbi, It is already released
[01:44] <zcat[1]> Plazma: personally, I probably wouldn't .. apart from ubuntu is what I'm nost familiar with.. for serious server work I'd recomend debian or centos or even opensuse
[01:44] <orphean> Plazma: they're both equally capable. i like the dpkg stuff and the repositories better than yum and rpm personally.
[01:44] <Plazma> interesting
[01:44] <kholerabbi> m_newton: indeed. when was it released?
[01:44] <acp_> Hi Jack_Sparrow here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/24376/
[01:44] <mneptok> m_newton: no, it is not.
[01:44] <Plazma> i support a large # of RHEL boxes and a few centos boxes in a lab, so natrually its what im most familiar with, but in the linux world i cut my teeth on Debian so it's stuck with me
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: worked fine.
[01:45] <Plazma> zcat[1], orphean , i appreciate your input
[01:45] <DragonWolf> I'm having an issue with the settings on this monitor being too bright.
[01:45] <DragonWolf> Is there a program or somewhere to change the contrast / brightness inside of Ubuntu?
[01:45] <DragonWolf> Using the settings on the monitor itself don't help.
[01:45] <m_newton> mneptok, well it is supposed to be released 3 months after the official 8.04 release
[01:46] <mneptok> m_newton: no, it is not.
[01:46] <m_newton> mneptok, Are u sure?
[01:46] <Plazma> man , do you #ubuntu guys get all the riff raff ?
[01:46] <mneptok> m_newton: and if that were true, 8.04.1 would be released at the end of this month
[01:46] <mneptok> m_newton: very sure.
[01:47] <mneptok> m_newton: there is no predetermined schedule for point releases
[01:47] <m_newton> mneptok, please see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy
[01:47] <warriorforgod> I am using ubuntu 8.04 freshly installed and trying to add a security exception in firefox.  However when I click Confirm Security Exception nothing happens.  Any suggestions?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> acp_  sudo apt-get install apache2-utils
[01:47] <orphean> Plazma: the real 'riff raff' hangs out on #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[01:47] <Plazma> heh
[01:48] <ariqs> does anyone her eknow howto use climm?
[01:48] <Plazma> guess people have nothing better to do than to troll/spam IRC from their moms basement eh
[01:48] <mneptok> m_newton: please /whois mneptok
[01:48] <chyper67> can anyone help me with ubuntu server?
[01:48] <Fryguy--> chyper67: ask a question, don't ask to ask
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> m_newton We are sure
[01:49] <igor_> can someone help me, i keep getting a Hash Sum mismatch when i try and update Ubuntu 8.04
[01:49] <mneptok> m_newton: there is no guaranteed date for a point release.
[01:49] <mneptok> igor_: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:49] <m_newton> mnemo, oh sorry than, didnt know who you were, i just went by launchpad. sorry again
[01:49] <kholerabbi> mneptok: the release is expected within a few days?
[01:49] <mneptok> m_newton: no worries.
[01:50] <l3d>  so how would i go about to remove the other os with out messing this one up
[01:50] <mneptok> kholerabbi: we're hoping for Thursday, but nothing is carved in stone. anything may change.
[01:50] <igor_> mneptok, when i ran apt-get update it got a lot of "# Debian Pure64
[01:50] <igor_> deb http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 sid main contrib non-free
[01:50] <igor_> deb-src http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-pure64 sid main contrib non-free"
[01:50] <m_newton> mnemo, This thursday?
[01:50] <igor_> errors
[01:50] <mneptok> m_newton: yep.
[01:50] <chyper67> the X server loads automatically in ubuntu server? cause i couldn get it started
[01:50] <m_newton> cool
[01:51] <Fryguy--> chyper67: an x server isn't installed by default in ubuntu server, it's in repositories though so you are free to install it if you would like
[01:51] <m_newton> chyper67, there is no gui in the server version of ubuntu, only tty
[01:51] <kholerabbi> mneptok: cheers. will it say 8.04.1 at the ubuntu download site?
[01:52] <mneptok> kholerabbi: yup.
[01:52] <ariqs> does anyone here know how to use climm?
[01:52] <chyper67> ok, but i ve tried to install it with xinit and it did not work too
[01:52] <kholerabbi> mneptok: thanks again
[01:52] <igor_> and keep getting this .. "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xerces27/libxerces27-dev_2.7.0-5_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:52] <igor_> "
[01:52] <igor_> i can't update without getting tons of those
[01:52] <Fryguy--> chyper67: starting x with xinit is pretty much always wrong
[01:52] <m_newton> ariqs, http://www.climm.org/
[01:53] <Fryguy--> chyper67: you should be using startx or a graphical login manager (like gdm, kdm, or xdm).  And you'll have to provide us with specific errors if you want help
[01:53] <Fryguy--> chyper67: "doesn't work" doesn't help us
[01:53] <mneptok> igor_: why do you have Debian repos in Ubuntu?
[01:53] <chyper67> ok, thanks
[01:53] <igor_> yeah noticed that, removed it
[01:54] <m_newton> igor_, Do u sync or merge?
[01:54] <m_newton> Nm
[01:54] <igor_> no
[01:54] <igor_> i just installed ubuntu this morning, keep getting "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xerces27/libxerces27-dev_2.7.0-5_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[01:54] <igor_> " and such
[01:54] <m_newton> igor_, nevermind
[01:54] <dolags32129> whenever i hold down just my backspace key my xserver restarts....any tips?
[01:54] <mneptok> igor_: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:55] <igor_> did that, i'll try again ina sec
[01:55] <chyper67> startx did not work too, i will try to configure. thanks
[01:55] <tj83> anyone have a how-to for intel pro wireless 3945?  it detects networks but does not connect.
[01:55] <DragonWolf> Anyone know of a configuration tool for contrast / brightness for a standard monitor? (ie, non-lcd)
[01:55] <Fryguy--> dolags32129: ctrl-alt-backspace is the key combo to restart your X server. if it happens when you just press backspace I'd imaging there is an error in your keyboard mapping
[01:55] <m_newton> dolags32128, well ctrl alt backspace usually does that, check for stuck keys
[01:55] <m_newton> heh, Fryguy-- got it before me
[01:55] <Fryguy--> tj83: my 3945 has worked fine when I've used it
[01:55] <Fryguy--> m_newton: i usually do
[01:56] <m_newton> Ha ha ha.
[01:56] <tj83> Fryguy--, out of the box
[01:56] <dolags32129> how would i change those settings?
[01:56] <Fryguy--> tj83: yes out of the box, from a live cd, whatever
[01:56] <Fryguy--> dolags32129: /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be a place to start
[01:56] <m_newton> dolags32128, check to see if the ctlr alt keys are stuck
[01:56] <Rhamphoryncus> Is there some trick for resetting the X config to its originally installed state?  It didn't give my full resolution, but the proprietary fglrx driver isn't stable for me, and uninstalling it won't give me any better than 640x480 vesa
[01:56] <igor_> did that mneptok got "Reading state information... Done
[01:56] <igor_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:56] <igor_> "
[01:56] <dolags32129> i've already checked that
[01:56] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:57] <igor_> yet still fails to update without throwing a hash sum mismatch
[01:57] <Rhamphoryncus> Fryguy--: tried, no good
[01:57] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: so what driver are you using now?
[01:57] <tj83> well i certainly have an issue with that 3945 card Fryguy-- i have searched google forever
[01:57] <igor_> its been acting weird, i'll just reinstall
[01:57] <tj83> jack_sparrow do you have any info on intel 3945 wireless?
[01:57] <Rhamphoryncus> uhh.. this attempt is configured as fbdev
[01:57] <vvd> anyone got sound working on a macbook (early 2008)?
[01:57] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: yah that's probably wrong
[01:58] <Rhamphoryncus> which still seems to give me vesa
[01:58] <DeadKennedy2880> tj83 - i also had no issues with the same card, perhaps that explains the lack of info on google. what have you tried so far?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 nothing comes to mind
[01:58] <mneptok> igor_: how does it fail to update if there are no updates?
[01:58] <m_newton> igor_, wait. try pasting your source list on pastebin
[01:58] <RoughriderUT> wd: Hmm I'm working on the same problem
[01:58] <m_newton> !pastebin | igor_
[01:58] <tj83> DeadKennedy2880, tried adjusting time out value ... was one suggestion.. tried backports.
[01:59] <mneptok> tj83: the 3945 is supported by open drivers and works without any special sauce in anything post-Dapper.
[01:59] <Rhamphoryncus> Fryguy--: I've tried half a dozen options with displayconfig-gtk, testing all of them fails
[01:59] <mneptok> tj83: what flavor of 802.11?
[01:59] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: so maybe just edit xorg.conf manually? it's usually easier
[01:59] <tj83> hmm... mneptok i dont understand the issue.. 802.11g
[01:59] <DeadKennedy2880> mneptok - abg
[01:59] <mneptok> tj83: should be fine
[02:00] <mneptok> DeadKennedy2880: you don;t want to use B if you can help it
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/making-intel-wireless-3945abg-work-better-on-ubuntu-hardy/                     look in backports
[02:00] <DeadKennedy2880> tj83 - im thinkin you did more harm by messing with the settings
[02:00] <tj83> mneptok, tried disable security, other routers.
[02:00] <tja> why is sbuild asking me for a password when executing: Checking for source dependency conflicts... ?
[02:00] <mneptok> tj83: are you able to browse access points?
[02:00] <eugene_> Anyone hosting with Ubuntu in here?
[02:00] <Fryguy--> eugene_: ask a specific question
[02:00] <tj83> yes... they appear in list.
[02:00] <m_newton> tj83, is it a router problem?
[02:00] <chao2> How do you get the thumbnails to show up larger when you browse via myspace?
[02:01] <DeadKennedy2880> mneptok - can you explain a little why, just so i can learn something?
[02:01] <tj83> mneptok, they just attempt to connect and nothing more.
[02:01] <mneptok> tj83: then the driver is loaded, operational, and network-manager is happy.
[02:01] <tj83> m_newton, no.. multiple routers tried.
[02:01] <linkmaster03> How can I find how much memory my graphics card has?
[02:01] <tj83> mneptok, expect there is no connection
[02:01] <mneptok> tj83: try a live session to rule any of your tweaks being the source of the problem.
[02:01] <eugene_> I been trying to set up a static ip address so I can use this machine as a server, but it won't let me change it to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:02] <mneptok> DeadKennedy2880: the 3945 and 4965 from Intel have known performance issues under Linux when speaking 802.11b.
[02:02] <tj83> mneptok, its working exactly as did out of box.. clean install twice.
[02:02] <Fryguy--> eugene_: /etc/network/interfaces is what you want to edit, and there's a nice manpage on the subject (or just google for settings for it, it's very straightforward)
[02:02] <saylar> salut
[02:02] <chao2> linkmaster03: type df -h for memory
[02:02] <DeadKennedy2880> mneptok - oh ok, i wasent sure, thx
[02:02] <saylar> I am new in Ubuntu
[02:02] <eugene_> okay, thank you
[02:02] <m_newton> saylar, what do u need
[02:02] <saylar> who speak french ?
[02:03] <mneptok> saylar: bon soiree. #ubuntu-fr pour francais, stp.
[02:03] <tja> anyone here with sbuild experience? it is asking me for a password
[02:03] <saylar> how i enter to french forum ?
[02:03] <Fryguy--> saylar: /j #ubuntu-fr
[02:03] <mneptok> saylar: ecrite "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[02:03] <acp_> my problem is solve I have just change my repository to main via synaptic pkg manager,thanks for the inputs!
[02:03] <saylar> thank you
[02:04] <mneptok> saylar: de rien.
[02:04] <saylar> "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[02:04] <Rhamphoryncus> Fryguy--: well I'm surprised.  That worked.  What was displayconfig-gtk doing to mess it up?
[02:04] <mneptok> saylar: pas des marques quotation
[02:04] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: no idea, i never use gui tools to configure anything anymore, so I have no idea what displayconfig-gtk looks like
[02:04] <saylar> ok
[02:04] <zcat[1]> !fr
[02:05] <mneptok> saylar: vraiment comme ca. :)
[02:05] <Rhamphoryncus> Hmm, no compiz now
[02:05] <Fryguy--> Rhamphoryncus: make sure you have composite enabled in xorg.conf
[02:06] <m_newton> Rhamphoryncus, just get it again
[02:06] <wirelessdreamer> has anyone here got a tftp server working in ubuntu, i just tried tftpd and atftpd, but couldn't get either of them to start
[02:07] <Fryguy--> wirelessdreamer: what is the error
[02:08] <wirelessdreamer> I don't get any, i run /etc/init.d/atftpd start and don't even get a message
[02:08] <wirelessdreamer> it should tell me its starting up, but doesn't
[02:08] <Fryguy--> wirelessdreamer: any output in logs?
[02:08] <Dicrodium> Hi
[02:08] <wirelessdreamer> and i can't find a config file to set the directory to serve out for it dpkg -L doesn't say a config file was installed
[02:08] <Dicrodium> does anyone here has an ATI video card (X1000 series) and want to share some experiences?
[02:08] <{Sampler}> hi everyone. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get a mail server "system" working on our local server. would like to be simple and use fetchmail (6 mailboxes in the ourside world) and dovecot .. I think i also need procmail .. but cant seem to work how where its putting the inbound email. Any guideance would be great
[02:08] <Fryguy--> Dicrodium: just ask the question you want to ask
[02:09] <wirelessdreamer> Fryguy: i'll pull them up again
[02:09] <britt> .q
[02:09] <britt> \q
[02:09] <Fryguy--> {Sampler}: what MTA are you using?
[02:09] <Fryguy--> sendmail/exim/etc
[02:09] <m_newton> Dicrodium, what do u need
[02:10] <Dicrodium> I'd like to know the current status of those ATI cards..
[02:10] <Dicrodium> using the open source driver (and also with fglrx)
[02:10] <{Sampler}> Fryguy > smtp is postfix seems to be working well as outbound smtp
[02:10] <Dicrodium> stability.. suspend/resume.. those things
[02:10] <urand0m> Dicrodium,  i have a toshiba satellite A100 laptop
[02:10] <urand0m> and with an ATI card
[02:10] <urand0m> it's fine
[02:11] <urand0m> just installed ubuntu 8.04 last night
[02:11] <urand0m> flawless
[02:11] <Fryguy--> {Sampler}: have you tried /var/mail or /var/spool/mail?
[02:11] <m_newton> Dicrodium, sorry cant help. not my expertice
[02:11] <Fryguy--> I've used ubuntu on an x1450 and it works fine
[02:11] <dolags32129> nice managed to fix my problem!!!! YAY me
[02:11] <{Sampler}> fryguy > do you mind a direct chat window ?
[02:11] <Fryguy--> also on an older 9800pro and x1650
[02:12] <Fryguy--> {Sampler}: yes i do
[02:12] <urand0m> Dicrodium, i had a notification icon in the taskbar indicating something about my ATI drivers not being found upon installing & startup.. but i pressed "enable" and it downloaded some drivers, made me reboot, and worked fine
[02:12] <urand0m> now i can run in 3d mode with visual effects
[02:12] <urand0m> and it barely takes any system resources... i can't believe this OS
[02:12] <wirelessdreamer> Fryguy: i run this and get no output, and atftpd isn't running after it atftpd --daemon /tftpboot/
[02:12] <the_alamo> i have a 500gb external hard drive (actually 465gb); i formatted it as ext3 when i check to see how much space i have available it says that i have used 141gb of space but i only have 2 folders (one with 82gb and 32gb) which leaves about 35gb unaccounted for.  where could they have gone?
[02:12] <Fryguy--> wirelessdreamer: and no log file is created?
[02:13] <Dicrodium> Nice
[02:13] <urand0m> running xp, this laptop with a POS.. ran slowly, took forever even to open my computer and recognize my drive or removable devices.  Ubuntu knows what's up.. I want to shake the hand of the creators
[02:13] <tinivole> I've installed ubuntu on a HP dv2750EA flawless (except needed to flash my BIOS to get cpufreq functionality)
[02:13] <urand0m> absolute brilliant work in this OS
[02:13] <Dicrodium> but what about the open source driver? does it already work on X1000 series on Hardy?
[02:13] <Fryguy--> the_alamo: that's a lot of numbers you spewed out there.  What is the output of df -h?
[02:13] <yoyoned> the_alamo: by default, the ext3 filesystem reserves 5% of the space for use by root only
[02:13] <tunix34> any-body-know-why-my-keyboard-is-not-working?!-NOT-because-of-dirt-in-my-keyboards-thing..
[02:13] <delster> hey all. I searched ubuntu forums. Problem is that when download server 8.04, and create iso, it is not bootable. Desktop versions are fine. any suggestions?
[02:13] <urand0m> heh, i installed it today on a quite new Toshiba Satellite laptop running vista, which upon purchase, my brother was told could ONLY run vista due to proprietary drivers.
[02:13] <Fryguy--> tunix34: picked wrong keyboard mapping?
[02:13] <urand0m> runs like a charm, and WAY better than while running vista
[02:14] <Fryguy--> tunix34: change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <sp219> I'm doing an alternate install of ubuntu 7.10, the installer freezes up at 83% ("installing the kernel - retrieving and installing linux-generic...")
[02:14] <{Sampler}> fryguy> .. ok np yes there are matching files per user, viewing those files looks like emails .. ok how to they get out of there into the users home/Maildir's ?
[02:14] <Fryguy--> {Sampler}: procmail should do it
[02:14] <the_alamo> Fryguy--: unfortunately i am at work (and using Xp) so i can't check that --i will check when i get home!
[02:14] <vvd> yes we can (fart)
[02:14] <yoyoned> sp219 check the disk md5sum
[02:14] <arvind_khadri> sp219, are you sure it freezes
[02:14] <l3d> i dualbooted is there a way to go back to one os other then a full reinstall
[02:14] <Fryguy--> {Sampler}: there's plenty of tutorials on the internet for setting up mail servers.  what you have seems to be working from an ubuntu standpoint, so it's not really ontopic for this channel
[02:14] <{Sampler}> Fryguy .. great ok so i need to work out whats going on with procmail .. cool thanks for that ..
[02:15] <arvind_khadri> sp219, try leaving for sometime and then check..
[02:15] <sp219> arvind_khadri: It just sits there
[02:15] <tunix34> Fryguy--what-do-you-mean
[02:15] <Fryguy--> l3d: what do you want to do back to
[02:15] <sp219> i left it about 10 minutes
[02:15] <sp219> didn't move at all
[02:15] <Fryguy--> tunix34: ?
[02:15] <tunix34> [21:13] <Fryguy--> tunix34: change it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:15] <arvind_khadri> sp219, hmm let it be like that for some more time...how much ram you got...
[02:15] <caliburrito> good evening guys.. i need some help plz... when i plug in any USB device, it does not show to be mounted.. or it mught be but i dont see it anymore. could i get some info please?
[02:15] <djzn> hi... I put swap as my last partition, I hope I done well
[02:15] <the_alamo> yoyoned: i believe i compensated for that --i forget exactly what i did but someone suggested that i run a command from the terminal to set the reserve to 0.
[02:15] <Fryguy--> tunix34: I mean edit that file and make the key mapping what you want
[02:15] <l3d> back to ubuntu
[02:16] <sp219> arvind_khadri: Only 128 MB, that's why i used the alternate CD
[02:16] <Fryguy--> caliburrito: after you plug it in, take a look in /mnt or /media and see if it shows up
[02:16] <arvind_khadri> sp219, hmm ... if it doesnt run even after 20 mins or so check the cd for md5sum
[02:16] <yoyoned> the_alamo: I think tune2fs is the comand to adjust that
[02:16] <Matthew12> Hey, trivial question here. Is there a way to change the main menu button...or at least change the colors?
[02:16] <Fryguy--> l3d: and so what is the behavior now?
[02:16] <l3d>  i dual booted to opengeu
[02:16] <the_alamo> yoyoned: yes that was what i used.
[02:17] <sp219> arvind_khadri: I'm not looking for a GUI environment anyway... would the ubuntu server install CD require less resources/RAM?
[02:17] <Fryguy--> l3d: so is grub installed?
[02:17] <yoyoned> the_alamo: tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdb1
[02:17] <l3d>  i guess
[02:17] <l3d>  something is
[02:17] <arvind_khadri> sp219, yeah .... server wont have GUI so less space and RAM :)
[02:17] <Fryguy--> l3d: "something" isn't helpful
[02:18] <Fryguy--> l3d: if grub is installed, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.conf (which one it is varies from OS to OS) and put ubuntu back on the list
[02:18] <yoyoned> the_alamo: how are you checking the filesize? try df -h
[02:18] <djzn> I did, 20GB (/), 137GB (/home) and 2GB Swap - did I do good?
[02:18] <the_alamo> yoyoned: i will have to run that when i log on to ubuntu --i am at work right now.  i will check it out soon and get back to you
[02:18] <Fryguy--> djzn: should be fine
[02:18] <sp219> arvind_khadri: thanks :) I'll leave this one for 20 minutes or so and if it doesn't work, i'll move to the server version
[02:18] <Leefmc> Question: I want to install ubuntu on my "server", however i want to have sort of an odd interface to it. I would like to be able to log into it via SSH (Terminal) and do most of the work that way (queuing renders, etc), but i also would like to have a desktop already installed, just not run by default. So when, if i need to use it like a normal comp, i can just launch my desktop (i would do it remotely though). Is this possible to have
[02:18] <Leefmc>  a config like this?
[02:18] <djzn> my swap never gets written, I never use suspend mode, so It was wise to be the last partition, right?
[02:18] <arvind_khadri> sp219, you are welcome :)
[02:19] <Leefmc> (Hope you all got that heh)
[02:19] <the_alamo> yoyoned: i have ubuntu installed on a computer at work but it doesn't have the internet so i will have to run back and forth (fun!)
[02:19] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: sure, just uninstall any login managers like gdm and run x using startx
[02:19] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: also take a look at doing X11 forwarding so you can run your X applications and forward the displays to other machines
[02:19] <WalloO> Leefmc, just use without X server, and use ssh -Y command to export x11 apps to your desktop
[02:20] <Fryguy--> WalloO: it's ssh -X
[02:20] <sp219> arvind_khadri: More specifically it's a 700 MHz processor with 128 MB RAM and 15 GB HDD. The requirements for the server version is only 300 MHz + 64 MB RAM
[02:20] <sp219> :P
[02:20] <djzn> i was wondering if.... I can remove the "Applications" "Places" and "System" off the icons... in the taskbar, any ideas?
[02:20] <Leefmc> WalloO: Wtf? You can actually export the display of apps?!
[02:20] <Leefmc> WalloO: that sounds insane haha, i never would of imagined that
[02:20] <WalloO> Leefmc, doing that, all x11 apps launch from you ssh session will be displayed on your desktop
[02:20] <RoughriderUT> Can anyone help with a Macbook sound problem?
[02:20] <Fryguy--> djzn: the widgets placed in the panel are fully configurable, just remove that widget and replace it with a menu widget that you want
[02:20] <Leefmc> WalloO: And computed on the remote server?
[02:20] <arvind_khadri> sp219, ya...server editions are real nice on low mem systems
[02:20] <WalloO> Fryguy--, -Y works too, and in most cases
[02:20] <Leefmc> WalloO: Dear god.. its magical haha
[02:20] <yoyoned> Leefmc: you can set it so gnome or whatever is installed but not ran at startup, but running gui apps via ssh is better if you can do it
[02:20] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: yes
[02:21] <aguja> is it possible to access a computer in a lan knowing only the MAC?
[02:21] <WalloO> Leefmc, yes, it runs on the server, but it's displayed on your desktop. That's the magic of X11
[02:21] <cbassett> tj83 see what was said on private chat
[02:21] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: the machine you display it on can even be a windows or mac machine
[02:22] <yoyoned> Fryguy--: what program displays X on windows
[02:22] <Fryguy--> yoyoned: xming
[02:22] <djzn> GTK should flicker when your Hz is not set properly in X ?
[02:22] <Leefmc> WalloO: Man.. crazy. Would it be possible to exit the X11 session without killing the app? For example, starting a render and just logging off the X11 session (without closing the renderer), then later relogin to it to check progress, etc?
[02:22] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: take a look at xpra for that (not part of ubuntu repos, you'll have to compile and set it up yourself)
[02:23] <WalloO> Leefmc, in fact, the -Y automaticaly export the display with ssh tunneling. So it'S 100% safe. But be carefull, you have to trust your server, since with dfoing that, it can log your keyboard if it'S corrupted
[02:23] <eugene_> fry i have a quick question.  My computer ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>, but when I ping it shows up as <IP_ADDRESS>.  What does that mean?
[02:23] <Fryguy--> <IP_ADDRESS> is the loopback interface that every computer has
[02:23] <alienseer23> I installed ubuntu using "netboot/boot.img.gz" on a flash drive, and now, at the initial boot of the newly installed system, grub is telling me "Error 21:selected disc does not exist", and if I try to plug in my flash drive, it tells me "Error 15: File not found". What the heck? I followed instructions carefully, how do I boot into the installed system now, or do I have to start iover somehow?
[02:23] <yoyoned> eugene_: every machine has the local address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:23] <djzn> is there a bug in the volume mixer in ubuntu? the two channels kinda break apart and one side won't come up
[02:24] <Leefmc> WalloO: Ok, so with all this said, is my best bet to still run my server without a desktop running? And if a desktop is needed, i can start it? Because most of the time, pure SSH would be enough for me
[02:24] <Shaba1> its like you are talking to yourself
[02:24] <WalloO> Leefmc, I don't know if it's possible. I never tryed to do such thing. If you logout, it will stop your app. I don'T know if it's possible to logaout without living x11 app and reconnect to it latre
[02:24] <Leefmc> WalloO: Desktop would just use needed resources
[02:24] <arrrghhh> ok so i've tried to put ubuntu on a flash drive, livecd, nothing boots on this machine... it just dies while loading and eventually kicks to the initframs prompt...
[02:24] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: yep
[02:24] <Shaba1> its the ip address of you own computer for programs that are running on that computer
[02:24] <Shaba1> from inside the computers mind so to speak
[02:24] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: So then, i want to install ubuntu normally, then uninstall login managers
[02:25] <WalloO> Leefmc, you don't need to run a desktop on the server. The desktop as to run on your client computer.
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: or otherwise disable them, yah
[02:25] <Primedeath> Anyone know what could be wrong? When I am trying to install, it will use a guided partition, it just sticks at 0% "Resizing Partition" for 15 minutes. I reboot, still intact.
[02:25] <Storrgie> help, I just booted to the live CD to install ubuntu. I installed dmraid, but when I type 'sudo dmraid -ay' I get 'ERROR: device mapper target type "raid45" not in kernel"
[02:25] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: or just leave it running, it's going to hardly take up any resources
[02:25] <conley> Is there a .*rc file that gets run on graphical login?
[02:25] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: How much is hardly? Its only got 2gig atm (need to upgrade to 64bit so i can load it out with the max 16gigs), so even a few bits of ram is important
[02:26] <Fryguy--> conley: you can configure a session that uses .xinitrc if you want
[02:26] <Fryguy--> /etc/gdm/Sessions or something along those lines
[02:26] <conley> ok, thanks
[02:26] <Storrgie> help, I just booted to the live CD to install ubuntu. I help, I just booted to the live CD to install ubuntu. I installed dmraid, but when I type 'sudo dmraid -ay' I get 'ERROR: device mapper target type "raid45" not in kernel"installed dmraid, but when I type 'sudo dmraid -ay' I get 'ERROR: device mapper target type "raid45" not in kernel"
[02:26] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: the linux kernel knows how to manage memory, it will swap it out if it needs to
[02:27] <conley> Fryguy: Oh way, that's for graphical startup...I want login
[02:27] <slim_> how to stop some package e.g like openoffice from updates ?
[02:27] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: or just edit startup scripts so it doesn't run at startup, or just uninstall it.  We've given you plenty of options, it's up to you to decide what you want to do
[02:27] <Fryguy--> conley: depends on what shell you are using
[02:27] <yoyoned> Leefmc: /etc/init.d/gdm is the script that starts gdm
[02:27] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Gotcha, thanks :)
[02:27] <Leefmc> yoyoned: k
[02:27] <Fryguy--> conley: if you are using bash, ~/.bash_profile gets executed for login shells, and ~/.bashrc gets executed for any instance of bash
[02:27] <conley> Fryguy: graphical login
[02:28] <Fryguy--> conley: For graphical login you want to use Session
[02:28] <conley> ok
[02:28] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Also, what do i need to do to start an SSH server? Does the ubuntu wiki contain a page for this exact situation? (Note that i know very little about SSH)
[02:28] <Storrgie> need help with dmraid!
[02:29] <arvind_khadri> !dmraid > arvind_khadri
[02:29] <Fryguy--> Leefmc: it does. all you need to do is apt-get install the server (i think the package is named openssh-server, i don't use ubuntu so i have no idea), and then you are done, unless you want to set up other parts of it
[02:29] <Leefmc> Fryguy--: Gotcha. Thanks! I'll do some wiki readups before i do it though, im a bit weary on security
[02:30] <arvind_khadri> !raid | Storrgie
[02:30] <connor> Ok I am pissed off, could someone help me get pidgin to work again?
[02:30] <Fryguy--> connor: give us a specific problem to solve and we'll gladly help you
[02:30] <igor_> whats bestvirtual software, such as VirtualBox?
[02:30] <Fryguy--> igor_: i recommend virtualbox, it's really nice
[02:30] <yoyoned> Leefmc: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config  to ensure ssh forwarding is enabled on the server
[02:30] <wirelessdreamer> Fryguy: did you post a response about the tftp question, my buffer scrolled by while i was afk
[02:30] <connor> fryguy--: I connect pidgin but I get signed off immediately after it signs on with a message saying Lost connection with server: Connection reset by peer
[02:30] <connor> reinstalling didn't help
[02:31] <Leefmc> yoyoned: What is forwarding?
[02:31] <igor_> Thanks, I'll try it it out, just wanted to see if there were better out there that you guys know of
[02:31] <Leefmc> yoyoned: The X11 thing?
[02:31] <Fryguy--> wirelessdreamer: no idea, i don't keep track of what scrolled past either. and i respond to quite a few people so i don't keep track
[02:31] <Storrgie> arvind_khadri: I know that, but i cant get dmraid to work
[02:31] <yoyoned> Leefmc: rignt forwarding X over ssh
[02:31] <Fryguy--> connor: for an AIM account or another account?
[02:31] <arvind_khadri> Storrgie,  no idea ...sorry
[02:31] <connor> fryguy--: aim
[02:32] <Fryguy--> connor: did anything change ?
[02:32] <Leefmc> yoyoned: Gotcha. That wont be right away though, my priorities for that are rather low, for now it'll be command line render starting
[02:32] <connor> I'm using ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron
[02:32] <Fryguy--> connor: or did it just start disconnecting
[02:32] <connor> no i didnt fryguy--
[02:32] <connor> It just randomly started doing this one day
[02:32] <Leefmc> yoyoned: But that is a seriously cool concept. If it works well enough for me to use blender on my server.. jeez
[02:32] <Fryguy--> connor: try deleting ~/.purple and restarting pidgin and setting up your accounts again
[02:32] <arvind_khadri> !enter | connor
[02:33] <connor> where is ~/.purple
[02:33] <zelrikriando> conley, which IM your using?
[02:33] <zelrikriando> connor,
[02:33] <connor> yes?
[02:33] <Fryguy--> connor: ~/.purple is the path you want to delete
[02:33] <yoyoned> conner /home/conner/.purple
[02:33] <zelrikriando> connor, which IM ?
[02:33]  * m_newton is away: loligaging at the wee hours of nite; just to say hi to all and host my server.
[02:33] <connor> thanks
[02:33] <zelrikriando> ICQ?
[02:33] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know if FFMPEG has a FastStart option? I believe there is a separate command for "qt-faststart", but i need a command directly of ffmpeg, to use through blender.
[02:34] <connor> ~/.purple isnt in /home/connor/
[02:34] <connor> zelrikriando: pidgin
[02:34] <chowder> my computer doesn't allow me to boot from USB. If I wanted to use my external HD for another OS, would there be a way to force my computer to boot from USB?
[02:34] <Fryguy--> connor: nobody said it was.  ~/.purple is the path you want to delete
[02:34] <zelrikriando> connor, no, that s the client...I want to know your IM account
[02:34] <connor> chowder: how old is your computer
[02:34] <conley> zelrikriando: Pidgin
[02:34] <Fryguy--> connor: not /home/connor/~/.purple
[02:34] <connor> zelrikriando: hothothotpocket why do you ask?
[02:34] <urand0m> anyone know how to install the linux version of unreal tournament ?
[02:34] <chowder> connor: not too old
[02:34] <connor> then where fryguy--?
[02:34] <Fryguy--> connor: ~/.purple
[02:34] <chowder> connor: a few years old I guess, but it has good specs and all
[02:35] <connor> chowder: set your bios to boot from usb and then go to boot menu and select the usb device
[02:35] <zelrikriando> connor, ....Your IM, what is it? msn ? ICQ? yahoo?
[02:35] <connor> AIM
[02:35] <Fryguy--> zelrikriando: if you were keeping up, it's AIM
[02:35] <zelrikriando> ok
[02:35] <chowder> connor: I tried that but my BIOS doesn't offer that option
[02:35] <connor> usb?
[02:35] <zelrikriando> I know there are issues with ICQ
[02:35] <connor> is it usb-zip?
[02:35] <alienseer23> I installed ubuntu using "netboot/boot.img.gz" on a flash drive, and now, at the initial boot of the newly installed system, grub is telling me "Error 21:selected disc does not exist", and if I try to plug in my flash drive, it tells me "Error 15: File not found". What the heck? I followed instructions carefully, how do I boot into the installed system now, or do I have to start iover somehow?
[02:35] <zelrikriando> that s why I ask
[02:35] <connor> WOW
[02:35] <connor> alienseer23: use a live cd
[02:35] <connor> trust me
[02:35] <yoyoned> connor: open a terminal and type: rm -Rf ~/.purple
[02:35] <connor> thank you
[02:36] <alienseer23> connor: no cdrom
[02:36] <connor> oh
[02:36] <connor> uhhh
[02:36] <connor> do a network install?
[02:36] <connor> get an external cd drive?
[02:36] <alienseer23> connor: I DID a network install
[02:36] <chowder> connor: i was thinking about experimenting and installing Ubuntu to an external hardrive but I can't get the BIOS to boot from USB.
[02:36] <connor> oh
[02:36] <alienseer23> connor: wait..I did an install over the net, using a flash drive to initiate the install
[02:36] <connor> hold on chowder
[02:37] <chowder> connor: k
[02:37] <connor> i did rm -Rf ~/.purple, am i supposed to get a message saying it is deleted?
[02:37] <Fryguy--> chowder: if you can't boot from usb you can't boot from usb
[02:37] <Fryguy--> connor: no
[02:37] <zelrikriando> I managed to boot on a flashdrive but didnt get further
[02:37] <connor> oh
[02:37] <connor> how do i know it is deleted?
[02:37] <Starnestommy> connor: if rm works, it says nothing
[02:37] <Fryguy--> you can take a look to see if it's still there..
[02:37] <alienseer23> connor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[02:37] <connor> you mean chowder
[02:37] <yoyoned> conner: ls  ~/.purple
[02:37] <connor> i can boot from usb fine
[02:38] <connor> oh
[02:38] <Fryguy--> connor: ??
[02:38] <connor> To prepare the USB stick, you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported.
[02:38] <connor> alienseer23: did you see that?
[02:38] <alienseer23> I followed the "easy" method
[02:38] <vasily> anyone knows how to handle  USB Microphone?
[02:38] <alienseer23> connor: I followed the instructions perfectly
[02:39] <bumpdt> hello.  my screensaver won't start on it's own.  (i'm a ubuntu newbie) from the ubuntu bugs I found something that said run 'ps ax|grep saver' and i have 2 things listed: gnome-screensaver and grep saver .. do i need to disable one of this?  ctrl+alt+l works fine
[02:39] <chowder> connor: well my USB ports work just fine on Ubuntu. but my bios doesn't give me the option to boot it. Is there a workaround or a hack that you know of?
[02:39] <Fryguy--> bumpdt: no
[02:39] <alienseer23> connor: I used an existing ubuntu box to perpare the usb drive
[02:39] <connor> chowder: that has nothing to do with it
[02:39] <connor> alienseer23: did you use a live cd?
[02:39] <Fryguy--> chowder: if your hardware doesn't support booting from usb, it doesn't support booting from usb, end of story.  Check to see if there is a bios update available that provides the functionality, otherwise you are stuck
[02:40] <delster> sorry if someone replied, slight emergency and i missed about 5 minutes of replies. I am unable to boot server 8 cds. downloaded several times and made several copies. no autorun file appears as does on desktop.
[02:40] <chowder> Fryguy--: kthx
[02:40] <alienseer23> connor:no, I downloaded http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current//images/netboot/boot.img.gz and extracted it to a flash drive
[02:40] <Fryguy--> delster: ?
[02:40] <connor> alienseer23: you said you used a ubuntu box to prepare it
[02:40] <alienseer23> connor: then i put the flash drive on the other comp[uter, and booted
[02:40] <Fryguy--> delster: what are you trying to do
[02:40] <alienseer23> connor: correct
[02:41] <L_inf> What texlive package should I install to use babel with spanish and inputenc??? Accents are changed for strange characters??
[02:41] <connor> ok, what was the error again?
[02:41] <delster> downloaded server 8.04 iso. trying to boot. will not.
[02:41] <bumpdt> fryguy--: what should i do?
[02:41] <Fryguy--> bumpdt: no idea
[02:41] <v64> I've got a Synaptics TouchPad that stops working on a laptop when it comes out of suspend. It seems to be because the device disappears from /dev on return from suspend, anyone familiar with this problem off the top of their head? I don't have access to logs or anything right now
[02:41] <Fryguy--> delster: is your computer set to boot from CD?
[02:41] <connor> alienseer23: try redoing the install?
[02:41] <Fryguy--> v64: known issue, plenty of google results about it
[02:41] <delster> yes. and i can boot desktop version, but not server.
[02:42] <Fryguy--> delster: did you burn the ISO correctly?
[02:42] <alienseer23> connor: I am trying to avoid that, I am installing to a system with solid state drives, and want as few re-installs as possable
[02:42] <v64> yeah, I've seen the Google, it seems to be caused by a variety of issues, a lot of the problems involved the device not disappearing, but just being renamed
[02:42] <hittingpilot> does anyone know how to make a folder in console?
[02:42] <v64> so those don't apply to me
[02:42] <Fryguy--> hittingpilot: mkdir
[02:42] <delster> did it the same way as the others.
[02:42] <hittingpilot> thnx
[02:42] <v64> specifically in my case, the device is no longer present on return from suspend
[02:42] <connor> alienseer23: my only guess was to use a live cd install, and how can you boot a usb device but not have a cd drive?
[02:43] <L_inf> hittingpilot: use mkdir "name of th directory"
[02:43] <Fryguy--> delster: burn another disc then.  it either works or it doesn't.  If your computer is properly set up and boots from cds, but it doesn't boot from 1 cd, then logic follows that the cd is either bad or burned incorrectly
[02:43] <alienseer23> connor: any computer with a usb connection, and no rom
[02:43] <delster> i've burned 3. the autorun.inf appears to be missing.
[02:44] <Fryguy--> delster: autorun.inf has nothing to do with booting
[02:44] <Fryguy--> autorun.inf is a windows-only thing
[02:44] <delster> ahh.
[02:44] <hittingpilot> Fryguy--: how do I destroy that folder?
[02:44] <Fryguy--> hittingpilot: rmdir or rm -r
[02:45] <yoyoned> delster: put cd in drive and reboot
[02:45] <plik> delster: you're defintely burning the .iso as an image correctly? checkd it's md5 sum in case the iso you have is corrupt?
[02:46] <cbassett> I have problem with my cpu because it will flux between 800 mhz, 1.6 ghz and top at 1.9 ghz, how can i keep it to stay on one frequency no matter what
[02:46] <delster> I used powerISO to look at the iso files i downloaded. both i386 and amd desktop iso's have an autorun where the server versions do not. That's why I thought it was the problem.
[02:46] <Fryguy--> cbassett: disable powernowd
[02:46] <Fryguy--> cbassett: or just leave it, since it doesn't do anything bad and saves your electric bill
[02:46] <cbassett> i don't care about the bill, how to disable
[02:46] <Fryguy--> delster: different OS = different contents
[02:47] <Fryguy--> cbassett:
[02:47] <Fryguy--> cbassett: 21:48:15           | Quit m_newton<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:47] <Fryguy--> whoops
[02:47] <Fryguy--> cbassett: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+disable+powernowd
[02:47] <ket[a]> what is the ccsm package called? can't find it with synaptic
[02:47] <Fryguy--> cbassett: you should just leave it running, it doesn't do anything bad
[02:48] <Fryguy--> ket[a]: compiz-settings-manager or something, just apt-cache search for compiz, there's not that many results
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> !ccsm
[02:49] <connor> what do i do now? do i reinstall pidgin?
[02:49] <Fryguy--> connor: you run pidgin again
[02:49] <vasily> How can I connect a USB microphone?
[02:49] <ket[a]> it won't find either
[02:50] <cbassett> i have realtek HD audio, my audio was working and then no matter what my audio will not work
[02:50] <hittingpilot> ok, i have an error message with RuneScape, it's telling me it can't create a cache
[02:50] <Fryguy--> ket[a]: just apt-cache search for compiz, there's not that many results
[02:50] <L_inf> latex doesn't recognize accents like á é í; instead it write strange characters, what can I do???
[02:50] <connor> thank you fryguy--
[02:50] <connor> it works
[02:50] <ket[a]> but why isnt synaptic showing it. it used to. it's not even finding xfce-terminal
[02:51] <Fryguy--> make sure you have universe and stuff enabled
[02:51] <ket[a]> well the 4 checkboxes are checked
[02:51] <Fryguy--> and have you updated?
[02:52] <hiptobecubic> how can i change the spell check dictionary that programs in gnome use?
[02:52] <hiptobecubic> i think it has something to do with aspell?
[02:52] <Fryguy--> hiptobecubic: did you type that into google yet?
[02:52] <Fryguy--> the first like 5 results are pertinent
[02:53] <cbassett> also with my audio question, how can i auto mount a drive on login
[02:53] <vasily> I need help with vbox, please
[02:53] <dolphin_noel> someone can explain to myself why compiz in ubuntu when i try to change the amsn display picture it simples makes the ubuntu logout?!
[02:53] <Fryguy--> cbassett: edit /etc/fstab
[02:53] <WalloO> cbassett, add it to /etc/fstab
[02:53] <Fryguy--> vasily: ask a specific question
[02:53] <ket[a]> aaahh Fryguy-- good call. hadn't clicked the updade button
[02:53] <ket[a]> thank y ou
[02:54] <dolphin_noel> and ... why the painel control dont work when i was compile and change acount dont do nathign and then after 3 reboots start to work again?!
[02:54] <vasily> can I open a guest created in VmWare?
[02:54] <WalloO> dolphin_noel, maybe your x11 crash for an unknown reason
[02:54] <cbassett> where do i find edit /etc/fstab
[02:54] <dolphin_noel> ater the amsn compilation
[02:54] <Fryguy--> vasily: i don't think so. check virtualboxes site/documentation/irc
[02:54] <ket[a]> cbassett: there
[02:54] <ket[a]> in /etc/fstab
[02:54] <dolphin_noel> WalloO thye have the same configurations then here and hte other one is one nvidia and this one is one ati and the amsn is working fine in one ati and not in one nvidia no i dont bealiver
[02:54] <WalloO> cbassett, sudo gedit /etc/fstab . to know how to add it, look for ubuntu forum with fstab keyword
[02:55] <vasily> do you know how USB microphone works?
[02:55] <dolphin_noel> WalloO and if it is it why this keeps crash and some solution?!
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> WalloO please use gksudo gedit
[02:55] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: when it crashes, grab a log file and an error message
[02:55] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: "it crashes" doesn't help us
[02:55] <cbassett> i do not see fstab in etc
[02:55] <Fryguy--> cbassett: well it's there
[02:55] <delster> This is kinda weird. double checked bios. cd set as 1st device, still won't boot. booted on another pc and it boots. rebooted 6 times. pc works on is Dell pc doesn't work on is Compaq amd 64. Using amd cd btw.
[02:55] <WalloO> dolphin_noel, java 1.6 crash my X11 when I run a Java 2D soft...  but I don't know why Ati and nvidia don'T use the same x11 driver
[02:56] <ket[a]> what is that dockbar called? i always forget
[02:56] <Fryguy--> ket[a]: avant?
[02:56] <ket[a]> yes. thank you
[02:56] <dolphin_noel> Fryguy-- it logs out the acount when i change the display picture .... in amsn
[02:56] <dolphin_noel> and have compiz installed
[02:56] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: like i said, we need a log and an error message
[02:56] <WalloO> Jack_Sparrow, if you use your console, gksudo if of no use. isnn't it?
[02:57] <dolphin_noel> i+ m here for 5 - 7 hours try to resolve this that is start to makes me think i ubuntu is one good option to me sometimes
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[02:57] <cbassett> where do I find the information like this for partition 1:# /dev/sda2
[02:57] <cbassett> UUID=b16835fc-20d8-4173-aa96-60858ea2269b none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:57] <cbassett> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[02:57] <delster> sorry for the dbl.
[02:57] <plik> WalloO: if you're using console just use sudo nano /etc/fstab
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> WalloO Use gksudo for running any gui app in term
[02:57] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: btw, there's better options for instant messaging applications than amsn
[02:57] <cbassett> mainly like the UUID and so on
[02:57] <albuntu> dolphin_noel try to run amsn in shell and paste the output in the pastebin
[02:58] <krono2k5> has anyone setup samba as a pdc with ldap authenication
[02:58] <WalloO> plik, if you want, but nano or VI may be a headack for standard users
[02:58] <krono2k5> has anyone setup samba as a pdc with ldap authenication
[02:58] <WalloO> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[02:58] <Fryguy--> krono2k5: #samba
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> Fryguy-- like what?!
[02:58] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: pidgin
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> albuntu nathing because ... the acount simple makes logout ...
[02:58] <dolphin_noel> so i cant see the mistake
[02:59] <dolphin_noel> i allreayd try this
[02:59] <anolis> is there a guide to convert divx to mpeg with no quality loss?
[02:59] <plik> WalloO: I only said that cox you mentioned the console, nano hass losts of help available, I wouldn't suggest vi(m) to a beginner
[02:59] <Fryguy--> anolis: not possible
[02:59] <Fryguy--> transcoding always causes quality loss
[02:59] <dolphin_noel> and is osmething is ocmpiz allready try to reset to default configurations and natthing
[02:59] <albuntu> dolphin_noel try emesene
[02:59] <WalloO> plik, ok. I don't really know nano. I use VI or mc in console mode. :)
[02:59] <dolphin_noel> why i will use emesene if dont have webcam?!
[03:00] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: why will you use amsn if it's broken?!
[03:00] <TacticalFrostbit> how do i fix this error? WvDial<*1>: The PPP daemon has died: Lack of LCP echo responses (exit code = 15)
[03:00] <plik> WalloO: long time vim uers here myself
[03:00]  * Fryguy-- uses nothing but vim
[03:00] <anolis> Fryguy--,  i've done it before i just don't remember the switch for ffmpeg
[03:00]  * plik high 5s Fryguy--
[03:00]  * Fryguy-- is a software engineer and uses it as his development environment
[03:00] <TacticalFrostbit> it keeps disconnecting the modem every 2 minutes
[03:00] <albuntu> dolphin_noel you can use emesene normally. thats no need for a webcam to make it work
[03:00] <WalloO> plik, I'm no more used to vi. It'S powerfull, but to difficult to remember every command :)
[03:01] <anolis> Fryguy--, i did it to play them on my tv but "ffmpeg -i <file> <file>" makes a super grainy video with LOTS of pixelation
[03:01] <plik> WalloO: vimtutor and practice  :)
[03:01] <TacticalFrostbit> someone before it disconnects?
[03:01] <anolis> Fryguy--, i found a guide once that was perfect but i can't find it anymore
[03:01] <dolphin_noel> albuntu man ... and why not amsn?!
[03:01] <dolphin_noel> just because the ubutu have some bug?!
[03:01] <Fryguy--> anolis: so go read documentation on how to manipulate ffmpeg to do what you want, it's outside of the scope of this channel
[03:01] <WalloO> plik, not so much time and interrest in improving my skill in vi. Iol like Gedit and eclipse for file or code editing.. :)
[03:01] <dolphin_noel> because this looks dont work anything here?!
[03:02] <albuntu> dolphin_noel if you dont give the output than you cant say that ubuntu has a bug
[03:02] <dolphin_noel> it logs hwhen i install then start to not logout like the coputer wants
[03:02] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: it's possible, without you providing us any error logs or anything we can't answer that. And what's up with the ridiculous punctionation at the end of every sentence?
[03:02] <dolphin_noel> just because he wants?!
[03:02] <delster> Fryguy-- any reason why would boot on Dell and not on Compaq? Bios double checked to make sure cd is 1st boot device.
[03:02] <dolphin_noel> fryguy and how can i do it this?!
[03:02] <Fryguy--> delster: nope
[03:02] <Kiyiko> hey kids
[03:03] <delster> Drats!
[03:03] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: and have you trid pidgin
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> Fryguy-- if the ACOUNT SIMPLE ... urgg log out
[03:03] <Kiyiko> so.....i am new to ubuntu, anyone masterfull care to help?
[03:03] <MagicDuck> hi, I just noticed that you can't change keyboard layout in a java app. Is there any fix?
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> so you dont know and you say use another one?! and if i use windows ?!
[03:03] <WalloO> Kiyiko, ask your question, and the one who knows will help you
[03:03] <yoyoned> Kiyiko: with what?
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> this i sno awnser
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> urg
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> you dont know ok i dont know to
[03:03] <dolphin_noel> but ...
[03:04] <albuntu> dolphin_noel why dont you think that this is an amsn bug and you are sure that this is a ubuntu bug ? just find some logs and paste them so someone can help you
[03:04] <dolphin_noel> please ...
[03:04] <plik> WalloO: whatever works for you... I often need to edit text without a GUI so am not sued to those tools, and similarly have no need to bother wit them , so to each their own :)
[03:04] <dolphin_noel> give me a break
[03:04] <Fryguy--> dolphin_noel: i don't know the answer, you aren't providing me anything to work with, what do you want from me? I'm suggesting methods to help you get an answer, i'm suggesting workarounds, what more do you want from me?
[03:04] <nixnoob> hey I changed my password for my AIM account using pidgin and i forgot it, it auto-connects but i need the password is there any way to retrieve it?