[02:00] <delinquentme> if i give someone a public SSH key
[02:00] <delinquentme> what does this allow?
[02:00] <delinquentme> that allows me to ssh into their system .. but not vice versa correct?
[02:01] <b1g1r0n> delinquentme: correct
[04:49] <Zanzacar> i have ubuntu-server installed and i wanted some audio output for pianobar. I tried to install pulse audio but it is asking for X11 libraries when run with pulseaudio -D
[04:49] <Zanzacar> is there a better way to get audio?
[08:25] <acidflash> flush-252 is always going into D state, and blocking for more than 120 seconds, which is SUPER annoying
[08:25] <acidflash> what can I do to solve, already googled for 6 days
[13:13] <raydog45000> Hello, I just set up a server and am trying to add users, I use sudo useradd -m -k /home/john john, then set a password, when I login to it it doesn't say the name@servername it just shows $
[13:15] <raydog45000> does anyone have an idea?
[13:15] <twb> So it turns out that if you set a slapd ppolicy to warn users a week before their password expires, that doesn't actually mean anything will warn them
[16:39] <ironm> !kvm
[16:39] <ironm> !xen
[17:36] <arbir> hello
[17:36] <arbir> how can i find a list of packages that would be deployed with 12.04 lts ?
[17:38] <MysticJay> Hi, anyone here to help me with uspd?
[17:41] <tombs1171> Is there anyone here who can help with postfix?
[17:43] <bazhang> try #postfix ?
[17:43] <tombs1171> will do, thanks
[17:43] <kklimonda> arbir: what do you mean? what packages get installed depends on what you choose to install
[17:43] <bazhang> arbir, that would be #ubuntu+1
[17:44] <arbir> ok.. for example… which version of php would come with the 12.04 server?
[17:44] <mcloy> what php mailing method is better for heavy email mailing on a site ? sendmail or something else?
[17:44] <arbir> which version of apache ? 22 or 24
[17:44] <mcloy> or setup an smtp server.. fully
[17:44] <arbir> thats what i meant.
[17:46] <kklimonda> arbir: you can more or less browse https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise for those answers, or install precise somewhere and see it directly
[17:46] <arbir> kklimonda: thanks… looking up is good.. but installing and checking is too much work.
[17:47] <kklimonda> arbir: if you know package name you can also use rmadison to get its version in all releases
[17:47] <kklimonda> that would include precise
[17:48] <arbir> this link u gave me is good… thanks!
[17:49] <MysticJay> Hi, I installed nut and think I have configured it correctly, but on boot the upsd seems to complain about beeing not configured.
[17:55] <mcloy> which has multithreading  (utilizing full bandwidth available)    sendmail or any other smtp server ?
[19:36] <mtaylor> sigh
[19:36] <mtaylor> anybody know anything about networkmanager on desktop and how it interacts with dnsmasq?
[19:57] <JanC> mtaylor: why do you think it does?
[20:01] <JanC> (and doesn't sound like a server topic...)
[20:12] <oApocalypse> who here has samba experience
[20:12] <oApocalypse> along with it associating with windows 7
[20:12] <guntbert> !ask | oApocalypse
[20:12] <oApocalypse> lol
[20:13] <oApocalypse> ok im running ubuntu 11.10 with samba configured
[20:13] <oApocalypse> my windows 7 machine is seeing my tb hard drive at a 142 gb drive
[20:13] <Patrickdk> is there a question in this?
[20:14] <EvilResistance> i think he's wondering why its showing up as 142GB on the Windows machine, when 11.10 ius a 1TB drive
[20:15] <oApocalypse> yes sorry
[20:15] <Patrickdk> oh? I read that as his thunderbird harddrive
[20:15] <oApocalypse> i have a seperate hard drive in the linux server thats 1tb didicated to share
[20:15] <oApocalypse> dedicated*
[20:16] <Patrickdk> I don't think samba/smb is 64bit compatable at that level
[20:16] <oApocalypse> and windows 7 is showing the share at 142gb
[20:16] <Patrickdk> atleast I know mine all show up as like 32gigs free disk space, when I have like 5tb free
[20:16] <oApocalypse> i just reached the 142gb capacity through my windows machine
[20:17] <oApocalypse> and it wont let me add more
[20:17] <Patrickdk> odd, mine will
[20:17] <Patrickdk> actually, my free space stays constant, no matter how much I put on the drive
[20:17] <oApocalypse> whats the command to query disk space in linux
[20:17] <Patrickdk> df
[20:19] <oApocalypse> HMM? /dev/mapper/Exousia-root
[20:19] <oApocalypse>                      149520692 141925492         0 100% /
[20:20] <guntbert> looks rather full
[20:20] <oApocalypse> let me include that this is my first time using linux so i could have done something wrong
[20:21] <oApocalypse> that doesnt look like a terabyte though
[20:21] <oApocalypse> that looks liek the partition is 149gb
[20:22] <guntbert> oApocalypse: !pastebin the output of     sudo fdisk -l         and of      df -h    and of        mount   please
[20:22] <oApocalypse> pastebin??
[20:23] <EvilResistance> !pastebin | oApocalypse
[20:23] <EvilResistance> !pastebinit | oApocalypse
[20:24] <oApocalypse> i shouldnt just paste here
[20:24] <Spartan29> Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaallo
[20:24] <EvilResistance> no
[20:24] <EvilResistance> UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES
[20:24] <guntbert> EvilResistance: thx for the reminder about pastebinit  - as we are talking server :)
[20:24] <EvilResistance> guntbert:  :)
[20:26] <EvilResistance> oApocalypse:  you can do this:  [command] > pastebinit or something, after you install pastebinit
[20:26] <EvilResistance> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:27] <Spartan29>  I've a trouble. I can't share files from linux to windows, files are in a folder of an NTFS partition mounted on boot time. What i see is that i can't change folder and than in it contained files. Can someone help me?
[20:29] <mcloy> iam using sendmail and php  to send email. but its not sending up. i have allowed port 25 for <IP_ADDRESS>/0     but its not sending any emails.  http://pastebin.com/M6kKLVtZ    need help . how can i check and make sendmail working?
[20:29] <stgraber> jjohansen: did you see that last comment in bug 969299? could it be related to the problem?
[20:29] <oApocalypse> whats the mount command
[20:30] <oApocalypse> damn
[20:30] <oApocalypse> i see what i did
[20:30] <jjohansen> stgraber: no I haven't checked the bug today
[20:31] <stgraber> jjohansen: the suggestion is that it could be related to deleted files and that mediate_deleted might help
[20:31] <oApocalypse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/909269/
[20:31] <jjohansen> stgraber: hrmm, yeah I am looking at it now
[20:32] <Spartan29>  I've a trouble. I can't share files from linux to windows, files are in a folder of an NTFS partition mounted on boot time. What i see is that i can't change folder and than in it contained files. Can someone help me?
[20:33] <jjohansen> stgraber: so I can believe that is the case, though I would have expected a log message there.  Of course we have a couple of bugs around logging of things that have logging surpressed
[20:33] <jjohansen> stgraber: normally you wouldn't need the mediate_deleted flag because the file labeling and task labeling generally match for deleted files
[20:34] <jjohansen> unfortunately if this is a mediate deleted case, all we can do atm is add the flag
[20:34] <RoyK> Spartan29: ntfs mounted with ntfs3g/fuse?
[20:34] <RoyK> or something over the net
[20:34] <virusuy> gents!
[20:34] <Angtagapagligt> Hey
[20:35] <jjohansen> stgraber: I will run through and test this today and update with what I find
[20:35] <Spartan29> RoyK, i don't know... how can i know?
[20:35] <jjohansen> I should probably create a bug about not getting a log message for this as well
[20:35] <oApocalypse> anyone able to tell me what my issue is see,s ;ole evil and gunt left
[20:35] <RoyK> Spartan29: heh - you should know
[20:35] <oApocalypse> seems like*
[20:35] <RoyK> Spartan29: is that disk with that ntfs filesystem physically connected to the linux machine?
[20:36] <stgraber> jjohansen: cool, thanks
[20:36] <RoyK> physically, as in, with sata, sas, usb, scsi, ide, mfm etc
[20:36] <mcloy> how can i know that sendmail installed is working and will send mails (i have a phpscript that says it send mails. but actually i never recieve the mail in my inbox) ?
[20:37] <RoyK> mcloy: postfix or exim?
[20:37] <Angtagapagligt> Can someone write me to show my sister how a IRC chat works? :)
[20:37] <RoyK> Angtagapagligt: install an irc client on her machine...
[20:37] <mcloy> RoyK,  using sendmail
[20:37] <oApocalypse> ive been abandoned
[20:37] <RoyK> mcloy: sendmail???
[20:37] <mcloy> RoyK,  yes
[20:37] <Angtagapagligt> RoyK :) No she just wanna have a look :)
[20:38]  * RoyK stopped using sendmail sometime at the end of the 1990s
[20:38] <RoyK> Angtagapagligt: offtopic...
[20:39]  * RoyK will probably start using sendmail again once QBASIC gets popular again
[20:41] <Spartan29> RoyK, yes the disk is internal at the pc, but i don't know if it's mounted with ntfs-3g or fuse, but maybe probably withe ntfs-3g
[20:42] <RoyK> ntfs-3g uses fuse
[20:44] <RoyK> Spartan29: now, if sharing files with a windows machine, on a linux server, using ntfs, why oh why do it that way?
[20:44] <RoyK> Spartan29: or is this a dual boot desktop?
[20:51] <oApocalypse> if im tryin to copy one entire directory to another i would do cp /directory /directory correct?
[20:53] <Rapid2214> If it fails, use the -r parmameter
[20:53] <Rapid2214> Depending on what your coping
[20:53] <oApocalypse> yea it says cp: omitting directory
[20:53] <Rapid2214> Yh, use -r or -R
[20:54] <Rapid2214> I think they do the same things
[20:54] <Rapid2214>  -R, -r, --recursive          copy directories recursively
[20:55] <oApocalypse> its 142gb so it will take awhile then correct
[20:55] <oApocalypse> and im in command prompt so they show no progress
[20:55] <Rapid2214> You can use rsync for that amount of data, then if it fails it wont take years to do it all again
[20:55] <Spartan29> RoyK, yes this is a dual boot pc for some maintenance on files /24 for dw files, and i want access a folder with films that is on the drive used to store films (once the'yre completed). The access at these files must be obtained by windows or other inux boxes present in my lan.
[20:55] <oApocalypse> lol to late
[20:55] <Rapid2214> rsync -Pav /folder /foler2
[20:56] <Rapid2214> Is what I would usually use for anything +40GB
[20:56] <oApocalypse> rsync is a default command?
[20:56] <RoyK> Spartan29: don't use ntfs on a linux server, use ext4 or something
[20:56] <Rapid2214> Installed by default on ubuntu
[20:56] <RoyK> Spartan29: if it's a dual boot pc, it's not a server, and this is the wrong channel
[20:57] <oApocalypse> well i shall try that if i get a failure
[20:58] <oApocalypse> i see the hd light flickering away lol
[20:58] <oApocalypse> ill check back on it in awhile
[20:58] <oApocalypse> ty for the help :)
[21:14] <Spartan29> RoyK, i know this is the wrong place. But if you can help me i quickly go away to fix my problem.
[21:16] <mcloy>  here are the error logs for sendmail. need help http://pastebin.com/hJUYzEX4
[21:21] <Spartan29> RoyK, the problem finally is that i cannot apply the permission right to show folder content to everyone.
[21:21] <mcloy>  here are the error logs for sendmail. need help http://pastebin.com/0GfTnYNU
[21:22] <Rapid2214> Spartan29, Can u fill me in with your senario?
[21:26]  * RoyK doesn't want to spend time on things off topic in here
[21:34] <mcloy> iam having the following error. what is wrong with sendmail? Mar 31 21:30:41 ip-10-111-31-180 sendmail[24639]: q2VLUfa6024639: from=www-data, size=274, class=0, nrcpts=1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=www-data@localhost
[21:34] <mcloy> Mar 31 21:30:41 ip-10-111-31-180 sendmail[24639]: q2VLUfa6024639<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ctladdr=www-data (33/33), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30274, relay=[<IP_ADDRESS>] [<IP_ADDRESS>], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:35] <guntbert> mcloy: are you experienced with configuring mail servers?
[21:37] <guntbert> mcloy: if not I suggest 1) take care 2) read https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html  3) take care 4) follow (2)
[21:40] <mcloy> guntbert,  doing it the first time
[21:40] <mcloy> guntbert,  no configs are needed for sendmail.......
[21:41] <Rapid2214> Your local mail server is denying relay
[21:41] <guntbert> mcloy: a *very serious*  word of caution ™ : misconfigure mail servers are the bane of the internet (-> spam)  and are not regarded well by the rest of legit admins - trouble might lie ahead
[21:42] <guntbert> *misconfigured
[21:42] <Rapid2214> Guntbert +1 - Its burnt me before :)
[21:43] <guntbert> Rapid2214: well, that is ONE mistake I didn't make ... ;-)
[21:44] <guntbert> mcloy: uninstall sendmail and use postfix - and when it asks you what kind of server you want to run choose the most local version possible
[21:47] <mcloy> guntbert,  hmm. so not use sendmail..       can you tell whats wrong by looking at the 2 errores ?
[21:48] <mcloy> guntbert,  which is the most easiest mail server?
[21:49] <guntbert> mcloy: as I said read https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html   - they are talking about postfix, keep in mind what I said above about the initial setting
[21:50] <mcloy> what about sendmail?
[21:53] <mcloy> guntbert,  you there?
[21:54] <guntbert> mcloy: don't touch it, it might bite :)
[21:56] <mcloy> guntbert,  seriously.. why dont you recomend it ? :)
[21:57] <guntbert> mcloy: it is a big old complicated beast with a lot of badly understandable options and cross effects
[21:57] <mcloy> guntbert,  do i need my server to be made as  FQDN.
[21:58] <guntbert> mcloy: I don#t know for waht you need it
[21:58] <guntbert> *what
[21:59] <mcloy> fully qualified domain  name.  someone told me i need to configure it
[22:00] <mcloy> guntbert,  ok. so ill leave sendmail.....     which one do you recomend is the easiest to tackle. postfix qmail or exim ?
[22:00] <guntbert> mcloy: no, for what purpose do you need the mail sever?
[22:01] <mcloy> making a php site. and many of its heavy function sinclude email sending
[22:01] <guntbert> and I say "use postfix" for the 3rd time :)
[22:01] <mcloy> guntbert,  basically iam a php guy
[22:01] <mcloy> guntbert,  ok...... :)
[22:01] <mcloy> i know nothing about linux
[22:02] <mcloy> guntbert,  iam going to install postfix. how long are you online ?
[22:02] <guntbert> mcloy: my advice: get someone to help you with that mail server part - or leave that part out for the beginning -
[22:02] <guntbert> mcloy: I'm on my way to bed  - Good luck :-)
[22:04] <mcloy> ill do it myself
[22:04] <mcloy> thx ! :)
[22:05] <guntbert> mcloy: one last caveat: pleas do read a little about the danger of "open mail relays"
[22:05] <mcloy>  how to purge remove an application?
[22:05] <mcloy> guntbert, ill block the ips and allow only one. or the local host. as the webhost is the same machine as iam goin to install postfix on...


[16:13] <durka42> can I get some help writing a service file? I'm trying to use a pre-stop script to have upstart gracefully kill my program by sending input to a screen session, like this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13953/sending-text-input-to-a-detached-screen
[16:13] <durka42> but it just... doesn't feel like running my pre-stop script, it seems
[16:16] <durka42> ah... it was just killing the process immediately after starting the pre-stop script, without waiting for it to run
[16:23] <JanC> that doesn't sound right?
[16:35] <durka42> JanC: I dunno, but when I added "sleep 1" to the pre-stop script, it seems to work
[16:37] <JanC> eh, if it didn't wait for the pre-stop script to finish that wouldn't help?
[16:37] <durka42> hmm, you're right
[16:38] <durka42> well, the first command in the pre-stop script uses screen -- maybe it forks and upstart doesn't notice?
[16:38] <durka42> take a look : https://github.com/haptics-nri/nri/blob/master/nri.conf
[16:40] <JanC> screen is already running in the background, I assume, so you would have to wait for whatever you are doing in screen to end
[16:41] <durka42> that's correct, the pre-stop sends the quit command to the program running in screen
[16:41] <durka42> so that it doesn't get killed by SIGTERM
[16:41] <durka42> (because it's written in Rust which doesn't support signal handlers yet :( )
[16:41] <durka42> is there a better way to wait for that exit than "sleep 1"?
[16:50] <JanC> is there any (good) reason why you _need_ to run this inside screen?
[16:55] <durka42> JanC: I need to be able to connect to the console and interact with the program, if necessary
[16:55] <durka42> it has a CLI
[16:55] <durka42> it has a web server, too, so the CLI shoul never be necessary, but you know... bugs
[16:59] <durka42> anyway, I need to run
[16:59] <durka42> if you have an idea on how to make that service file cleaner, I might be around here later or you can file an issue at that github :)
[16:59] <durka42> thanks for your help!


[01:20] <Nafallo> carlos: I believe what was faulty with my bug yesterday.
[01:20] <Nafallo> carlos: s/what/I\ found\ what/
[01:20] <carlos> Nafallo, I hadn't time too look at it yet
[01:21] <carlos> Nafallo, what have you discover?
[01:21] <Nafallo> carlos: never ever run firestarter. worked with it stopped/uninstalled :-P.
[01:21] <carlos> :-P
[01:21] <carlos> so I should not care about it?
[01:21] <Nafallo> carlos: yepp. just uploaded the file :-).
[01:21] <carlos> cool!
[01:22] <carlos> Nafallo, :-)
[01:23] <Nafallo> or import the one from the server more likely.
[01:23] <carlos> It's interesting that you were ablet to see the webpage
[01:23] <carlos> but only the upload failed
[01:24] <Nafallo> the damn firewall stopped incoming https icmp traffic from my router.
[01:25] <Nafallo> I can't exactly relate that more than it worked when I turned it of ;-)
[01:31] <Nafallo> hmm, I get red text on Rosetta. thanx goes to the one that did that :-).