[04:03] <Gnea> JackEStorm: now i want to get that other system out, dust it off, and see if i can get that same solution to work with it ;)
[04:03] <PhilipTPixler> I would like to uninstall tcl 8.5 and tcl 8.4 along with tk 8.5 and 8.4
[04:03] <PhilipTPixler> How would I go about doing that?
[04:03] <danbh_intrepid> Frijolie: I think everything goes through pulseaudio these days
[04:04] <Frijolie> danbh_intrepid: I'm confused as to what pulseaudio really is. Is it just a sound server which allows for global adjustments in the OS?
[04:04] <JackEStorm> Gnea: but since DVB is mostly Euro based, it should be easy, I'm just limited on my view angle here but, it should be smoth (the S2 would give better out put, because of the 8PSK support)
[04:04] <PhilipTPixler> How do you remove the tcl and tk files from Linux? If anyone could help it'd be greatly appreciated :D
[04:04] <unop> synaptic has a search function - have you tried searching  for those packages?
[04:04] <unop> PhilipTPixler, ^^
[04:05] <JackEStorm> Gnea: now, myth had no issues with my other DVB card (ATSC)
[04:05] <PhilipTPixler> haha I haven't. I'm not even sure what that it ^_^ '
[04:05] <danbh_intrepid> Frijolie: well, AFAIK, pulseaudio unifies all the other sound systems.
[04:05] <gTea> comicinker, actually, yes. for some reason i didn't put 2 and 2 together. thanks for pointing that out.
[04:05] <Infinito-> synaptic is a GUI for installing and removing packages
[04:05] <Frijolie> danbh_intrepid: so one step forward and two back?
[04:05] <Infinito-> but you can do all from command line too
[04:05] <PhilipTPixler> oh wait I think I've found it. Under administration
[04:05] <PostersandGuitar> Ubuntu now refuses to allow my resolution to go higher than 640 by 620.
[04:05] <PostersandGuitar> Any help?
[04:05] <c_minus_minus> I'm getting pretty frustrated recording an asx file in VLC.  I think I set it up correctly, but when I hit "OK," VLC just hangs at 0:00:00.  Why?  Can anybody help, please?
[04:05] <bill_> #2#  after installing Ubuntu through the "Vista" stand-alone partition, ON the vista (NTFS) partition and booting on linux, i cant find the "vista" stracture. I can boot vista normally and ubuntu too, but when on ubuntu, where did my old files go?
[04:06] <Flannel> bill_: you mean with wubi?
[04:06] <danbh_intrepid> Frijolie: you may want to try intrepid, its beta now.  Still lots of bugs, but there are supposed to be fixes for pulse in it
[04:06] <bill_> dont know the name but i installed the ubuntu while running Vista
[04:07] <danbh_intrepid> Frijolie: BUT, if you are worried about messing up your system, you should first have a separate /home partition, that way you can install again without loosing anything
[04:07] <Flannel> bill_: Alright, yeah, that's with wubi.  No partitioning, right?  Your vista stuff should be mounted automatically (I think ntfs things are mounted by default in recent versions).  Check in places?
[04:07] <PostersandGuitar> Ubuntu will only run at an an extremely low resolution.
[04:07] <bill_> i dont got the system infront of me but i get a curious smile that it might be located behind the root -linux- directory?
[04:07] <PhilipTPixler> Ok so now I've found the tcl file in synaptic. How do I uninstall the file itself?
[04:07] <Frijolie> danbh_intrepid: I just finished burning the LiveCD for Intrepid 5 seconds ago
[04:07] <DigitalFiz> will intrepid have better support for component out for audio?
[04:07] <PostersandGuitar> Excuse me, but would anyone mind helping me?
[04:07] <PhilipTPixler> unp:
[04:07] <bill_> nay its not mounted, looked on known places and fstab
[04:07] <PhilipTPixler> unop:
[04:07] <Flannel> bill_: Nope.  It'll be just like it normally is.  Mount the partition (sda1 or whatever) etc
[04:08] <PhilipTPixler> sorry I'm knew at this
[04:08] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | bill_
[04:08] <bill_> but hmm partition is already mounted since i didnt make a new partiotion?
[04:08] <Flannel> bill_: You may need to enable ntfs-3g first.
[04:08] <unop> PhilipTPixler, select the package, right click, select remove, etc
[04:08] <Frijolie> danbh_intrepid: I always have a seperate partition for /home
[04:08] <Infinito-> bill_, nothing on /media  ?
[04:08] <Flannel> bill_: No. the wubi one exists separately, even if it is technically inside.
[04:08] <PostersandGuitar> Hi, can I have some help?
[04:09] <bill_> so i can go ahead and actually mount the same partition?
[04:09] <bill_> no nothing on media or mnt
[04:09] <Flannel> bill_: Its not the same partition
[04:09] <callkalpa> hi
[04:09] <bill_> can u explain flannel please ?
[04:09] <callkalpa> I want to start programming ubuntu, any suggestion to where to start ?
[04:09] <danbh_intrepid> python
[04:10] <PostersandGuitar> Can anyone hear me?
[04:10] <bill_> if SDA is the HD and sda1 is vista whats linux whne installing though vista windows?
[04:10] <danbh_intrepid> PostersandGuitar: yes
[04:10] <Flannel> bill_: the wubi "partition" is a file in your ntfs partition, that gets mounted through an abstraction layer.  I'm not really sure about the specifics, but as far as you need be concerned for usage, your install is identical to a regular install on a separate partition.
[04:10] <aaron_> How long should it take to get UCP certification?
[04:10] <Infinito-> when you're on vista, linux would be just some files with the .wubi extension
[04:10] <PostersandGuitar> Can someone assist me with my extremely low resolution?
[04:11] <Infinito-> those files are filesystem that only get mounted when you start on linux
[04:11] <PhilipTPixler> unop: ok one last thing. I've marked both of them for removal. How do I know when they're totally removed?
[04:11] <bill_> in other words i just go ahead and mount sda1 as ntfs-3g like recommendent
[04:11] <Flannel> aaron_: You're still offtopic.  This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  #ubuntu-offtopic is for general questions not related to support, including certification ,etc.
[04:11] <Flannel> bill_: yep
[04:11] <PhilipTPixler> unop:lol apply marked changed right?
[04:11] <sledge> Flannel:  do i want to set sda1 as the root device, or sda5 the partition that has ubuntu on it
[04:11] <unop> PhilipTPixler, right - they should be removed then
[04:11] <PostersandGuitar> Would anyone be able to assist me?
[04:12] <sledge> Flannel: grub> root (hd0,1) it wants me to type that in the terminal
[04:12] <Flannel> sledge: root will be where / lives  so if you only have one ubuntu partition, your Ubuntu partition
[04:12] <Flannel> sledge: that'd be sda2
[04:12] <HappyHater> PostersandGuitar, what video card?
[04:12] <PhilipTPixler> unop: Thank's. I might be back lol. Hopefully not
[04:12] <bill_> thanx flannel
[04:12] <puff> anybody know rync?
[04:12] <puff> I'm trying to back up some files and it seems to be ignoring my exclude, etc.
[04:12] <RHorse> puff, rsync
[04:12] <sledge> Flannel:  ok
[04:12] <danbh_intrepid> PostersandGuitar: have you tried to reconfigure xorg?
[04:12] <puff> Er, rsync, yeah.
[04:13] <PostersandGuitar> danbh_intrepid: what does that mine?
[04:13] <RHorse> puff, have you read the man page yet?
[04:13] <HappyHater> xorg fails at hardware detection
[04:13] <PostersandGuitar> happyhater: Nvidia
[04:13] <danbh_intrepid> !xconfig | PostersandGuitar
[04:13] <wers> is there something like alcohol 120% for linux?
[04:13] <HappyHater> PostersandGuitar, got the driver installed, yeah?
[04:13] <Flannel> wers: For what purpose?
[04:13] <PostersandGuitar> I'm not using any kind of server?
[04:13] <puff> RHorse: Yes.
[04:13] <callkalpa> anyone know how to create a customized live CD step by step ?
[04:13] <wers> Flannel, .iso reader
[04:13] <sledge> Flannel: Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.  it says that, and then theres a blining cursor, do i just wait?
[04:13] <RHorse> puff, and what do you want to do?
[04:13] <Flannel> wers: you can just mount them with mount
[04:13] <Flannel> !iso | wers
[04:13] <PostersandGuitar> HappyHater: From the beginning, this problem just started suddenly, it it was working fine before.
[04:14] <liug> what is irc
[04:14] <PostersandGuitar> liug: this is
[04:14] <wers> Flannel, virtual optical drive
[04:14] <sledge> liug: Internet Relay Chat : real time chat
[04:14] <Flannel> wers: see the above factoid
[04:14] <wers> wow nice. thanks Flannel
[04:14] <JackEStorm> sledge: no, not realtime, it's relayed!
[04:15] <liug> thank you
[04:15] <PhilipTPixler> unop:WOOH! Hey thanks for your help. I'd like to let you know that aMSN works now. Have a good one.
[04:15] <HappyHater> PostersandGuitar, what changed from when it was working to now?
[04:15] <puff> Copy a filetree from usb disk A to usb disk B,
[04:15] <puff> Copy a filetree from usb disk A to usb disk B, while excluding certain subdirectories.
[04:15] <sledge> Flannel:  it still isn't doing anything after 5 minutes..
[04:15] <PostersandGuitar> HappyHater: Literally, nothing.
[04:16] <callkalpa> anyone know how to run a run ubuntu from a USB pen ?
[04:16] <sledge> Flannel:  the page says put grub> root (hd0,1)  do i put sda 2 instead?
[04:16] <Flannel> sledge: I've never seen that message before, to be honest.
[04:16] <Flannel> sledge: What partition is your linux partition?
[04:16] <puff> Has anybody noticed a problem with ubuntu live CD occasionally having a diretory/file oriented command (e.g. mkdir,rmdir, etc) just hang forever and not be affected by "kill -9"?
[04:16] <sledge> sda2 extended is the 40gig
[04:16] <puff> Nor control-C, control-Z, contorl-D...
[04:17] <EvilDaemon> puff: kill -9 -1?
[04:17] <sledge> Flannel:  would it be EXT3/
[04:17] <Flannel> sledge: Are you sure thats where you have your Ubuntu?  If its inside the extended, that means its actually on a logical drive.
[04:17] <sledge> ?
[04:17] <puff> Odd, unplugging the USB disk I was trying to rm the directory from killed it.
[04:17] <HappyHater> PostersandGuitar, check xorg.conf and see if your display has been added correctly... if not run 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[04:17] <Flannel> sledge: ext3 is a filesystem, the default one yes.
[04:17] <puff> EvilDaemon: -9 *and*  -1?
[04:17] <PostersandGuitar> HappyHater:  How could this happen completely randomly?
[04:18] <bill_> flannel: On other system i got windows partition mounted and rwx fully. Checking on fstab i can see it nowhere to be found.. any ideas how and where it is mounted?
[04:18] <HappyHater> I wouldn't think it would unless you did something to change xorg.conf
[04:18] <Generic6552> I've a few questions I'd like home help with ---none of them urgent--- but for starters, my system occasionally makes an 'alarm' beeping noise... what gives?  Can I stop it?  Should I stop it?
[04:18] <Flannel> bill_: If its not mounted by default, its not mounted.  It'd be /dev/sda1  and mount it as per those pages
[04:18] <EvilDaemon> puff: yeah, just run  'kill -9 -1'
[04:18] <EvilDaemon> works for me.
[04:19] <puff> EvilDaemon: Without a process number?
[04:19] <unop> puff, do not try that
[04:19] <unop> EvilDaemon, why are you being malicious?
[04:19] <EvilDaemon> I'm... not, I don't think.
[04:19] <mn> unop: what does that do?
[04:20] <PostersandGuitar> HappyHater: I didn't.
[04:20] <puff> hm, odd, the "rmdir" isn't actually showing up in ps -ef, though the shell where I issued the command is still apparentlyhung.
[04:20] <unop> mn, kill pretty much every process - effectively shutting down the machine.
[04:20] <EvilDaemon> mn: kill -9 -1 kills all the processes you can kill.
[04:20] <RHorse> puff, you would need to do something like rsync -rva --exclude=/some/dir /usb_dir1 /usb_dir2
[04:20] <EvilDaemon> For me, it logs me out to the login screen.
[04:20] <puff> RHorse: Yeah, I was trying to use --exclude-from=filename
[04:21] <bill_> @Flannel: It is mounted only not through fstab.. but where?
[04:21] <supertanker> Can I just add a scri[t into /etc/cron.daily and have it execute every day?
[04:21] <supertanker> script*
[04:21] <JackEStorm> Gnea: and thank you for the URL'S, solved my problem (took a while to read everything, and back track my testing changes), but it seems to be working now (alsa loading order)
[04:21] <unop> supertanker, yep - that's the idea
[04:21] <Flannel> bill_: it'd be in mtab, or through gnome volume... stuff
[04:22] <RHorse> puff, you can use the -n or --dry-run ooption to see what the command will do without affecting anything
[04:22] <scientus> my password is only 1 haracter and cups wont take it
[04:22] <scientus> im adding a printer through the gui
[04:22] <puff> Argh, now the drive is not appearing under /media when I plug it back in.  Sigh.
[04:22] <scientus> and it says password required {username} on localhost
[04:23] <izinucs> scientus, change your pass temporary
[04:23] <scientus> its notlike the normal gksu popups
[04:23] <mungi> surabaya
[04:23] <bill_> @flannel: You are right i was totally ignorant of mtab existance.  Isn't the atl1e-driver included?
[04:24] <unop> EvilDaemon, yes if you want to send signals to processes not started by you.
[04:24] <danbh_intrepid> EvilDaemon: I think it depends on who owns the process
[04:25] <scientus> if its not do i have to set a differnt cups password?
[04:25] <Flannel> Hagg1: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[04:25] <EvilDaemon> unop: Would 'sudo kill -9' be the process he was looking for?
[04:25] <scientus> fuck ill just start the wizard as root
[04:25] <Flannel> scientus: Please watch your language
[04:25] <Hagg1> Flannel: what do you mean?
[04:25] <EvilDaemon> !ohmy | scientus
[04:25] <Flannel> Hagg1: Intrepid (what will become 8.10) isn't released yet, and its supported in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[04:25] <unop> EvilDaemon, kill -9 .. is hardly ever needed - and i should think not - using it only causes more problems, not provide solutions
[04:26] <RHorse> puff, and then make a script file or an alias in your shell rc so you don't have to type it every time
[04:26] <mungi> hi,leh  knl pa ga
[04:26] <Hagg1> Flannel: ahh, you mean the IRC channel #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:26] <Flannel> Hagg1: Indeed
[04:27] <Flannel> !id | mungi
[04:27] <Hagg1> Flannel: ok, thanks
[04:28] <savage-> did anyone get their internal mic working on dell d630?
[04:28] <wers> has anyone here managed to play sims 2 on wine? :)
[04:28] <dr_willis> wers,  check the wine app database
[04:28] <dr_willis> !appdb
[04:29] <PostersandGuitar> I tried gksu displayconfig-gtk. Ubuntu still insist that my monitor can only display 640x480
[04:29] <thon0925> edit your xorg.conf
[04:29] <PostersandGuitar> How do I do that?
[04:29] <thon0925> wait a sec
[04:29] <PostersandGuitar> ok
[04:30] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, nvidia?  have you installed nvidia-settings... if not try that and load it from terminal using sudo
[04:30] <PostersandGuitar> ixinucs: load what from terminal
[04:30] <dr_willis> the 'nvidia-settings' tool is good for tweaking the res and stuff for nvidia based systems
[04:30] <PostersandGuitar> This problem appeared without any warning or changes
[04:31] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, after installing "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"  .. load it with sudo nvidia-settings and see if you can make the changes you need there.
[04:32] <thon0925> who here has 8.10?
[04:32] <PostersandGuitar> ixinucs: Nope.
[04:32] <PostersandGuitar> izinucs: This problem just appeared suddenly
[04:32] <Melwasul> Hello, I am having a problem with playlists on myspace showing up, or even playing. when i click play it just turns black. I have the flash player and plug ins. Is there anything else i might need?
[04:32] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, when you're done you'll have to CTRL+ALT+Backspace.. make sure you save the xorg config in settings.
[04:32] <thon0925> did the tool install?
[04:32] <PostersandGuitar> izinucs
[04:33] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, that is weird that it happened all of a sudden.. but nvidia settings is worth a shot
[04:33] <PostersandGuitar> izinucs: There was nothing to change.It appears to have changed it's detection of my montir to a 640by480 CRT
[04:33] <starn> my computer was infected with a virus on windows and linux scanners say it is in pagefile.sys how would i fix this?
[04:33] <yao_ziyuan> !proxy
[04:33] <zurn> prefered ubuntu for p2.8m dell laptop (kubuntu / xubuntu / ubuntu) ?
[04:33] <m0n1t0r> Hello. I can't use my bluetooth headset in ubuntu 8.04. Someone could help me please?
[04:33] <rootlinuxusr> where can i find the Wine crash logs?
[04:34] <Prose> I have a .jar that needs to be executed as a java app... and when i double-click it opens the app just fine... but when I make a link, instead of opening the app, it opens the Arhice Manager
[04:34] <Melwasul> Can someone please help me?
[04:34] <fr500_> Prose: make the linker java -jar filename
[04:34] <fr500_> or
[04:34] <starn> anybody know any solotions? my computer was infected with a virus on windows and linux scanners say it is in pagefile.sys how would i fix this? i need to fix this while using ubuntu.
[04:34] <fr500_> make the file executable
[04:34] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, try nvidia-settings
[04:34] <PostersandGuitar> izinucs: I did, it detected as a 640by480 CRT
[04:35] <fr500_> starn: what partition type?
[04:35] <thon0925> you have to force xorg then, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:35] <fr500_> NTFS or FAT?
[04:35] <m0n1t0r> Hello. I can't use my bluetooth headset in ubuntu 8.04. Someone could help me please?
[04:35] <starn> fr500_: ntfs with windows vista.
[04:35] <ilec> I'm new to linux, and I can't get my system to connect to either wireless or ethernet networks
[04:35] <thon0925> can u tell if the bluetooth is detected?
[04:35] <Prose> fr500_: thanks
[04:35] <starn> fr500_: i am runing linux via extrernal hd.
[04:35] <unop> starn, it's usually safe to delete pagefile.sys offline
[04:35] <izinucs> PostersandGuitar, but will it let you change the setting?
[04:35] <fr500_> starn: mount it with ntfs-3g and delete the file
[04:35] <fr500_> !ntfs
[04:35] <starn> fr500_: soo removing it while in linux should be safe?
[04:36] <squalo> Hi
[04:36] <fr500_> yes
[04:36] <PostersandGuitar> izinucs: Yes...up to 640by480
[04:36] <rootlinuxusr> !wine
[04:36] <squalo> Can somebody help me ???
[04:36] <rootlinuxusr> !AppDB
[04:36] <m0n1t0r> thon0925: my bluuetooth doongle work very nice and i can detect thhe headset
[04:36] <ilec> maybe not, they don't seem particularly helpful...
[04:36] <thon0925> so what is the problem?
[04:36] <m0n1t0r> thon0925: but when I conect o it, it says Error: Host down
[04:37] <ASrock> ok i got vmware to work for a while but now when i try to open it a thing comes up on the bottom with the vmware logo and it says "opening 0 items" then it dissappears and nothing happens...any ideas?
[04:37] <squalo> Are some ubuntu developer in here?
[04:37] <thon0925> I believe you have to pair the phone with Ubuntu
[04:37] <bruenig> squalo: there is no such thing, just packagers
[04:37] <PostersandGuitar> Gah, I'll just reinstall.
[04:37] <fr500_> any alternatives to hotspot shiled on linux?
[04:37] <starn> fr500_: ok thank you.. um.. i guess i shall rescan for more viruses... and than try loging into windows
[04:37] <m0n1t0r> I paired it, but after I do this, I get this error message.
[04:37] <fr500_> starn: or get rid of windows :D
[04:37] <Melwasul> Hello, I am having a problem with playlists on myspace showing up, or even playing. when i click play it just turns black. I have the flash player and plug ins. Is there anything else i might need?
[04:37] <thon0925> hmm...
[04:37] <squalo> ok
[04:38] <EvilDaemon> ASrock: Nope! But I'm sure the channel #vmware or ##vmware will!
[04:38] <savage-> okay, who has skype working on 64bit ubuntu? :-)
[04:38] <squalo> I have some questions about free software :p
[04:38] <izinucs> Postere
[04:38] <emplo> exit
[04:38] <squalo> I'm new :p
[04:38] <starn> fr500_: haha i wish i could.. but ii am a gamer.... and the games i play work only in windows.. :(
[04:38] <Melwasul> legally free or not so legally?
[04:38] <Anza> My pc gets frozen when I open Amarok, any idea what would be causing that?
[04:38] <Flannel> squalo: If theyre about free software in general, you'll probably be better off asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <ilec> I'm new to ubuntu, how do I get my install to connect to an ethernet connection? it's all plugged in
[04:38] <simpla> Anyone using ubuntu 8.04 get emerald and themes going?
[04:38] <fr500_> starn: I'm a gamer too, but i never get virii
[04:38] <thon0925> how are you trying to connect to the phone
[04:38] <zurn> ilec - dhcp ?
[04:39] <Melwasul> ilec do you have the install disc?
[04:39] <squalo> ooooh Ok Thanks Like I said I'm new in this :p
[04:39] <ilec> yes
[04:39] <squalo> sorry
[04:39] <ilec> to both questions
[04:39] <starn> fr500_: i think i got it from a game i aint 100% sure.. seeing how i use linux for all other things
[04:39] <m0n1t0r> I right click in the bluetooth icon after I put my headphone in pair mode.
[04:39] <Melwasul> explore it and there should be an ndis file(i may be wrong on this one)
[04:39] <Melwasul> let me look it up
[04:39] <fr500_> starn: oh so you are a pirate gamer :D?
[04:39] <zurn> ilec - is it not getting an ip by default when you boot with it plugged in ?
[04:40] <thon0925> so it will show up, but when you click on it, it erros up?
[04:40] <thon0925> *errors
[04:40] <ilec> it's getting an ip adress from itself, not from the dhcp on the network
[04:40] <starn> fr500_: heh yes and no.. i only do that to "rent" than go off and remove the file after 24hrs... and if iliked i buy ^^
[04:40] <tictac232434> I am new to Ubuntu....and I was wondering if their is a way for Ubuntu to tell me what graphics card I have? I know windows sometimes can from dev manager...
[04:40] <stickboy> if i'm cp a file and it asks to overwrite, do i just hit enter?
[04:40] <thon0925> sudo lshw
[04:40] <zurn> ilec - you got it set to static ?
[04:40] <fr500_> starn: i see;)
[04:40] <carthik> Hi, I installed ubuntu-desktop on a Kubuntu system, and update-initramfs failed. So now dpkg says I need to do a "dpkg --configure -a". However, I cannot resize /boot - what do i do to carry on?
[04:41] <thon0925> run sudo lshw in the command line and you will get a list of the hardware
[04:41] <Hagg1> Anyone knw of a good howto for installing atl1e-drivers (EeePC901) for Ubuntu 8.04.1 (alternate cd-install)?
[04:41] <ilec> i'm new, I just turned the thing on, I haven't changed any settings
[04:41] <m0n1t0r> it take like 3 sec and then it appears: Não foi possível exibir "obex://[00:11:67:80:AB:8A]/".. Error: host down
[04:41] <izinucs> tictac232434, use terminal and type "sudo lshw"  .. it's what thon0925 said but didn't address it to you
[04:41] <tictac232434> ok ty
[04:41] <tictac232434> much appreciated ...
[04:41] <tictac232434> its very hard in a new place..
[04:42] <zurn> ilec - it should be configuered for ipv4 dhcp, so you should be able to plug it in, boot it up and surf
[04:42] <carthik> Hi, I installed ubuntu-desktop on a Kubuntu system, and update-initramfs failed because there is not enough space left on /boot. So now dpkg says I need to do a "dpkg --configure -a". However, I cannot resize /boot - what do i do to carry on?
[04:42] <Prose> tictac232434:  you can try System - Administration - Restricted Hardware
[04:42] <izinucs> tictac232434, just another learning experience.. coming from windows this will be much different
[04:42] <tictac232434> Already have......
[04:42] <tictac232434> It just says
[04:42] <ilec> i thought it would be too, but it's not
[04:42] <m0n1t0r> ok I've done that
[04:42] <tictac232434> Graphics accelerator
[04:42] <Prose> tictac232434: what gpu do you have ?
[04:42] <RHorse> ilec, what isp?
[04:43] <tictac232434> umm if I remember correctly..
[04:43] <tictac232434> from windows..
[04:43] <Prose> tictac232434: and is that Graphics Accelerator 'installed'?
[04:43] <zurn> ilec - behind a router?
[04:43] <emplo> can anyone tell me how change my font color in console?
[04:43] <tictac232434> its like a Radeon like....400 or something rediculous like that...
[04:43] <izinucs> tictac232434, you should see it listed in there someplace.. ie.. nvidia, ATI, intel, S3 etc
[04:43] <ilec> yeah, it doesn't see the router, or my NAS
[04:43] <ilec> it's operating on a completely different netmask
[04:43] <tictac232434> I am trying to find drivers.... for it..
[04:43] <tictac232434> for FPS's...
[04:44] <Prose> FPS?
[04:44] <zurn> ilec - using network manager?
[04:44] <tictac232434> First Person Shooters
[04:44] <sledge> hey thanks Flannel got it figured out
[04:44] <Prose> ow yeah okay
[04:44] <izinucs> tictac232434, go to System/Admin/Hardware manager and see if your card is listed there for the "restricted drivers"
[04:44] <Melwasul> theres soething you can open on the cd for it that will fix the problem ilec is having. i had to use it
[04:44] <Melwasul> i just cant remember the name of it
[04:44] <savage-> does anyone have their iphone working with ubuntu?
[04:44] <Sixzero> Hey guys...I'm having trouble getting samba to see my shared printer from a Win Vista system.  I can see and get into all my shared folders just fine, it's just that the printer isn't showing up.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:45]  * savage- wants to pull music off of iphone and put on ubuntu
[04:45] <tictac232434> AHHH!
[04:45] <ilec> I have the network tools and network settings open from the administration dropdown
[04:45] <tictac232434> i Found u!
[04:45] <tictac232434> Radeon X300
[04:45] <tictac232434> i was close
[04:45] <FloodBot1> tictac232434: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <izinucs> Sixzero, plug it into the linux box and share it to the win machine
[04:45] <node357> which FPS do you play tictac232434
[04:45] <ilec> wait
[04:45] <tictac232434> Nexuiz
[04:45] <ilec> it's a 10/100 network and my connection is gigabit
[04:45] <node357> sweet
[04:46] <Prose> tictac232434: ok so that' s like either old-school AGP low low end or generic laptop ati stuff
[04:46] <tictac232434> and I have been trying to figure out how to patch it.... lol since I am new to Ubuntu....
[04:46] <Sixzero> izinucs: I would, but the cups setup doesn't support my scanner/copier functions...
[04:46] <ilec> as in the new system is gigabit on a 10/100 network
[04:46] <zurn> your router / switch that its plugged into giga also ?
[04:46] <izinucs> Sixzero, been there ... done that.. frustrating
[04:46] <tictac232434> and since I "think" i patched it, it loads but flashes as if its the graphics cards fault
[04:46] <oleg> Anyone wishes to help a newbie forcemount an ntfs drive?
[04:46] <node357> tictac232434, you could download the entire new files from nexuiz.com and extract it to your home directory
[04:46] <oleg> hello btw :)
[04:47] <Prose> node357: I think that sounds rough
[04:47] <eca> i removed gdm, installed fluxbox, and i get error- /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager corrupt: invalid update mode. fluxbox works fine, menu had to be made but that wasnt hard. this error is reoccurring, any suggestions?
[04:47] <ilec> no no, the whole network is 10/100, but my new system has a gigabit card in it
[04:47] <tictac232434> All I do is open home director and extract it?
[04:47] <Prose> tictac232434: are you on a laptop?
[04:47] <tictac232434> desktop
[04:47] <Sixzero> izinucs: Very.  I tried for a week to get windows to see my samba shared printer and nothing worked, so I had to swap it back for work.
[04:47] <sledge> That woudl be awsome to have a flash drive with ubuntu live on it
[04:47] <zurn> ilec, that shouldnt matter, it should auto-negotitiate back down to 100 or fall back on 10 if it has to w/out any config
[04:47] <rootlinuxusr> sledge, it's been done
[04:47] <tictac232434> my laptop would own Ubuntu lol but since this P4..... is sluggish with Windows and my friend told me about ubuntu I was like "ok"
[04:47] <ilec> i know
[04:47] <oleg> could anyone tell me the command to use to force mount an ntfs drive?
[04:47] <dr_willis> sledge,  thats very easy to setup with 'unetbootin' tool  google for it. :)
[04:48] <RHorse> eca, try #fluxbox?
[04:48] <zurn> oleg - usb drive thats ntfs ?
[04:48] <oleg> i found a tutorial a while back
[04:48] <oleg> yes
[04:48] <oleg> usb drive that is ntfs
[04:48] <sledge> oleg yeah you just type mount -t ntfs.3g /dev/disk /media/disk
[04:48] <dr_willis> oleg,  ntfs-3g -force (i think) check the man pages for ntfs-3g
[04:48] <sledge> oh usb?
[04:48] <tictac232434> emmm brb ima try what that one guy sia
[04:48] <tictac232434> said*
[04:48] <oleg> yea
[04:48] <tictac232434> download and extract files to home folder
[04:48] <oleg> i have searched google high and low
[04:48] <dr_willis> its not a 'good' idea to force  the mounting of ntfs filesystems.  its best to fix it
[04:48] <sledge> not sure what a usb file name is
[04:49] <oleg> i know what my usb filename is
[04:49] <dr_willis> oleg,  its documented in the ntfs-3g wiki/homepage/docs/man pages. :)
[04:49] <Prose> where would it be listed that hardware has appropriate drivers ?
[04:49] <rootlinuxusr> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/DEVICENAME /media/External/ -o force
[04:49] <oleg> thank you
[04:49] <Indoctrine> My bank website doesn't work in Ubuntu
[04:49] <dr_willis> ntfs-3g --help ---> Example:  ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/win -o force
[04:49] <eca> i dont think its a problem from fluxbox
[04:49] <oleg> rootlinuxusr - when i type that in, with the proper drive name, it gives me a bunch of options
[04:49] <sledge> Indoctrine:  what do you mean, in ubuntu?
[04:50] <tictac232434> Node
[04:50] <sledge> Indoctrine:  why not run IE in wine
[04:50] <turtle_> need help installing swiftfox64
[04:50] <Indoctrine> sledge: As in, it'll work in Windows, but not in Ubuntu
[04:50] <tictac232434> should I download patch for whole install?
[04:50] <zurn> ilec - got to a terminal and type in sudo dhclient
[04:50] <Indoctrine> sledge: Something about not wanting my details stolen. It works in Windows firefox. >_>
[04:50] <node357> tictac232434, full install
[04:50] <tictac232434> ok ty
[04:50] <sledge> hm.
[04:50] <sledge> lol
[04:50] <izinucs> tictac232434, you might find the latest version on www.getdeb.net
[04:50] <tictac232434> already got it
[04:50] <tictac232434> lol
[04:50] <tictac232434> but ty
[04:50] <node357> 2.4.2 ?
[04:51] <tictac232434> yea
[04:51] <oleg> dr willis- when i type that command in, it gives me a breakdown of the options
[04:51] <ilec> wait, i had to manually configure the network, though the roaming connection
[04:51] <node357> that's the latest
[04:51] <tictac232434> yea
[04:51] <node357> so you don't need to patch
[04:51] <turtle_> anyone tried swiftfox yet?
[04:51] <tictac232434> stupid thing was bothering me
[04:51] <node357> :(
[04:51] <oleg> and doesnt mount anything
[04:51] <tictac232434> no I download/installed from respitorys...
[04:51] <Indoctrine> Oh
[04:51] <Indoctrine> Weird
[04:51] <Indoctrine> It worked this time
[04:51] <turtle_> i dont think its in my repos
[04:51] <tictac232434> from Ubuntu's "new person friendly" thing
[04:51] <Indoctrine> I'm poor. :D
[04:51] <dr_willis> oleg,  thats what --help does. :) it gives that example  Example:  ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/win -o force
[04:51] <dr_willis>    as a example command line to use the force.. be sure to use sudo with it..
[04:51] <tictac232434> lol
[04:52] <node357> lol
[04:52] <dr_willis> oleg,  of course you do ned to have a proper mountpoint, and the proper device name
[04:52] <node357> if you have 2.4.2 already you're done :P
[04:52] <zurn> ilec did you left or right click on nm (network manager) on the panel bar (top right)
[04:52] <turtle_> OMA
[04:52] <rexus> hi guys, for those of you who use laptop, do you find your laptop fan keeps on and even seems to work harder when you use firefox?
[04:52] <tictac232434> ehhh I don't is the problem....
[04:52] <zurn> ilec - what build are you using ?
[04:52] <node357> oh
[04:52] <shubbar> anyone using Avidemux?
[04:52] <zurn> 8.04 or 8.10 beta?
[04:52] <tictac232434> I installed from respitory and of course its not uptodate...
[04:52] <turtle_> is there a 64bit channel?
[04:52] <savage-> what's a good program for Ubuntu for managing photo albums, etc?
[04:52] <tictac232434> I was just needed to know how to apply the full installed like u just told me to get
[04:52] <zurn> shubbar - i have using it w/ virtualdub in winxp
[04:53] <Anza> Good day! I have a question, until today amarok was working well, but then suddenly it started to fail, the pc got so slow and then suddenly the screen was frozen, like blocked, and since that it's been happening everytime I open Amarok, any idea how to fix that or what could be causing that??
[04:53] <ilec> 8.04.1
[04:53] <zurn> savage - google's picasa?
[04:53] <node357> tictac232434, you shouldn't write over the files that were installed, instead run Nexuiz from your home directory
[04:53] <ilec> and i have network manager open
[04:53] <savage-> zurn: i didn't realize there was a version for ubuntu, thanks
[04:53] <tictac232434> emm...
[04:53] <tictac232434> dude I am from Windows I have no clue what ur saying..
[04:53] <zurn> savage - i could be wrong, i though there was
[04:54] <shubbar> zurn, i keep getting a time shift when encoding from mpeg2 to xvid of x264
[04:54] <savage-> nope, just XP support
[04:54] <dr_willis> savage-,  lasti looked picassa was using wine. :) so it is the windows version
[04:54] <oleg> hey
[04:54] <node357> darn, I thought it was pretty simple
[04:54] <tictac232434> I know where "Home Folder" is...
[04:54] <dr_willis> savage-,  they just package theuyr own wine with it.
[04:54] <oleg> just a quick question
[04:54] <tictac232434> lol
[04:54] <zurn> shubbar - a/v sync off?
[04:54] <node357> ugh
[04:54] <dr_willis> savage-,  it works very well.
[04:54] <oleg> would it be simpler to boot into a live windows cd and disconnect the drives from there?
[04:54] <savage-> dr_willis, really? so I need to first install wine and then download the picasa exe?
[04:54] <tictac232434> Places>Home Folder...
[04:54] <RHorse> savage-, how about apt-cache search photo?
[04:55] <ilec> okay I have it believing that it's running of dhcp now, how do i get it to refresh the IP
[04:55] <zurn> savage - picasa page says windows or linux
[04:55] <tictac232434> Its cool I will be patient.....just wanting help badly....
[04:55] <zurn> http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[04:55] <savage-> zurn: really? hmm i didn't see that!
[04:55] <msh> hello all! Is there any software which can do similar thing as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freegate
[04:55] <msh> ?
[04:55] <zurn> havent tried it
[04:55] <shubbar> zurn, yes, a/v sync problem. audio is delayed about 2 sec
[04:56] <node357> when it's downloaded, go to Applications, Accessories, Terminal and then the terminal comes up type unzip nexuiz-242.zip
[04:56] <dr_willis> savage-,  No you dont. :) it inludes its own wine.
[04:56] <tictac232434> msh.....
[04:56] <tictac232434> U might wanna try wine
[04:56] <msh> tictac: yes?
[04:56] <oleg> thank you
[04:56] <savage-> dr_willis, cool! trying it now
[04:57] <msh> tictac: Anything that is for linux? Wine would be a heavy solution
[04:57] <frybye>  Hi - when I try to run skype I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/53643/ any tips? (I am a relative- newbie)
[04:57] <tictac232434> Emmm...... not that i've seen
[04:57] <tictac232434> Why don't you post something in the forums?
[04:57] <tictac232434> They have people constantly helping people
[04:58] <msh> oh sure
[04:58] <zurn> ilec were you able to left click and choose connections for networking via the netowrk manager icon on the panel (upper right) ?
[04:58] <tictac232434> Node u still here dude?
[04:58] <node357> im still here tictac
[04:59] <tictac232434> ok I have downloaded the actual 2.4.2 just need to install it...
[04:59] <savage-> wow, picasa3 works very well in ubuntu 64bit
[04:59] <tictac232434> or I could get the patch which one do u think is best?
[04:59] <node357> open a terminal and type unzip nexuiz-242.zip
[04:59] <tictac232434> ok
[04:59] <ilec> i left click and get 1 option for a wired connection. my wireless doesn't even show up, but we can deal with that later
[05:00] <zurn> ilec - once you get wired working
[05:00] <ilec> yup
[05:00] <zurn> download the 1.5.x (whichever is latest) of wicd
[05:00] <tictac232434> Ok done now what?
[05:00] <node357> now type: cd Nexuiz
[05:00] <puff> RHorse: Hm, does rsync exclude take directory arguments, e.t. --exclude=/home/puff/.mozilla/firefox/puffuser/Cache or do I need to tag a wildcard on the end of that, --exclude=/home/puff/.mozilla/firefox/puffuser/Cache/*
[05:00] <node357> and then: ./nexuiz
[05:00] <zurn> ilec - it works tons better for wifi
[05:00] <ilec> kk, can we wait till i have wired first?
[05:00] <RHorse> ilec, may want to check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkDevices#Wired networking
[05:01] <ilec> thanks
[05:01] <mungi> jhfktfv lu
[05:01] <zurn> time for a poll, im reinstalling my laptop (dell 1150 p4 - 2.8ghz, 1.25gb ram) ubuntu 8.04.1 or 8.10 beta (im installing so its going to be default...)
[05:01] <tictac232434> Ok.... u realize to unzip the file I was on my "desktop"
[05:01] <tictac232434> now how do i get to exactly where u need me?
[05:01] <node357> tictac232434, oh crap... I forgot
[05:02] <j12112> I have a quick questions for all you pros. I haven't been in IRC for... oh, 10 years or so.  Just curious as to what's changed in regards to IRC.  Thanks.
[05:02] <node357> cd Desktop
[05:02] <node357> cd Nexuiz
[05:02] <tictac232434> yea I realized that
[05:02] <tictac232434> lol
[05:02] <zurn> j12112 - not much
[05:02] <node357> lol
[05:02] <tictac232434> I am from Windows so I know a bit of CMD
[05:02] <tictac232434> just enough
[05:02] <tictac232434> lol
[05:02] <FloodBot1> tictac232434: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <node357> ah lol
[05:02] <RHorse> puff, no the first way will work fine.    Is there a need to defrag?
[05:04] <node357> good deal :)
[05:04] <tictac232434> Ok do I keep the Nexuiz folder?
[05:04] <node357> yeah
[05:04] <puff> http://pastebin.com/d1650eabf
[05:04] <tictac232434> ok.... do i make a link to something...?
[05:04] <tictac232434> or how will I run it nextime..
[05:04] <node357> I think in GNOME you can make a link but it's sometimes flakey
[05:04] <zurn> hosstest - no, there is no fragmentation on ext2 or ext3 filesystems
[05:04] <dr_willis> hosstest,  its the ext2/ext3 fulesystem. and No fragmentionis not an iussue. :)
[05:04] <Flannel> !enter | tictac232434
[05:04] <node357> it might be better to run it from the command line, but that's just me
[05:05] <tictac232434> O ok sorry Flannel
[05:05] <puff> RHorse: http://pastebin.com/d1650eabf
[05:05] <hosstest> thanks
[05:05] <tictac232434> oic yea since I do not know the cmd well yet in Linux/Ubuntu might be a problem haha
[05:05] <Chlorate> My USB ports won't work in Ubuntu. I can't tell if when it was installed if it even detected it. Anyone help?
[05:06] <node357> always remember if you want to start an application like nexuiz you need the ./ before the program name
[05:06] <node357> if it's in your current directory
[05:06] <Trev> I need help configuring my windows wireless driver for ubuntu.
[05:06] <tictac232434> ok ty dude
[05:06] <tictac232434> that will help a lot more
[05:06] <node357> you can "create launcher" by right clicking the desktop and point it at Nexuiz/nexuiz-686-glx but I don't really remember how that works
[05:06] <node357> you're welcome
[05:08] <tictac232434> Ty Peace
[05:08] <bruenig> or write a .desktop file in vim
[05:08] <very_common> ok i need some answers :)
[05:09] <very_common> if i setup open ssh in home, what advantage i can get ??
[05:09] <owen1> i connect a vga cable from my sony vaio to a tv but it doesn't display anything. any idea?
[05:09] <Chlorate> My USB ports won't work in Ubuntu. I can't tell if when it was installed if it even detected it. Anyone help?
[05:10] <Trev> Trev>	I need help configuring my windows wireless driver for ubuntu.
[05:10] <jim_p> goodmorning
[05:10] <RHorse> puff, don't use wild card after directory -- that is improper syntax. Also, don't use wildcard between dir's .  I donl\t think that'll work. If you have many dir's you can use the switch --exclude-from= and make a text file with one dir per line.
[05:12] <turtle_> no 64 bit browsers for uubuntu 64
[05:13] <puff> RHorse: Okay, so I need one line for each user... how do I use a space in a directory name, quote it?
[05:13] <msh> any http proxy for linux?
[05:14] <Chlorate> Is 64 bit ubuntu okay to use yet in your guys opinion? I have an AMD64, but some stuff is still screwy and Im on 64 bit unbuntu or whatever
[05:14] <turtle_> anyone have a 64b browser
[05:14] <turtle_> plzzzz
[05:14] <ArtVandalae> puff, either quote, or use the escape character i.e. \. So something like my\ directory
[05:14] <jim_p> Chlorate: do you have more than 4GB of ram?
[05:15] <RHorse> puff, I *think* you can escape it with a backslash like some\ dir\ with\ spaces\ in\ it OR you can try single or double quotes around the directory. Not sure. 8 )
[05:15] <Anza> what is it you type in a terminal to "kill" an app?
[05:15] <roukoun> i have created a new user in my pc... i dont why but a removable hd change its ownership... now im trying to change it to its default but when im issuing the command: 'sudo chown roukoun /media/My\ Book' it says 'Operation not permitted'
[05:15] <Chlorate> jim_p, I have 3GB.
[05:15] <jim_p> Anza: killall firefox
[05:15] <Anza> thanks
[05:15] <ArtVandalae> roukoun, ls -l, and tell me who owns the dir
[05:15] <RHorse> jim_p, killall firefox-bin
[05:16] <ArtVandalae> roukoun, oh wait, nvm, you're using sudo
[05:16] <roukoun> ArtVandalae: its the new user i created
[05:16] <jim_p> Chlorate: then go with the 32bit. you will have less trouble with flash
[05:16] <Anza> what about when it gets so slow, like getting blocked and you cannot get to the terminal, there is like a short cut or something to open it fast?
[05:16] <ArtVandalae> roukoun, try: sudo chown roukoun: /media/MyBook
[05:16] <ArtVandalae> roukoun, note the ":"
[05:16] <jim_p> RHorse: correct :P but it was an example
[05:16] <roukoun> chown: changing ownership of `My Book/': Operation not permitted... same as before
[05:16] <Chlorate> jim_p, Hmm. I was wondering (I'm very newb but just trying anything) if my USB ports will work in 32bit
[05:17] <ArtVandalae> roukoun, what kind of a device is mounted?
[05:17] <jim_p> Anza: i have mine set to Ctrl+~. do one yourself
[05:17] <joebob777as7> anyone know if there is a way to force an iso to mount? I get bad superblock when trying to mount avchd iso files
[05:17] <jim_p> Chlorate: of course they will work!
[05:18] <Anza> jim_p, you know why Amarok is making my pc to get froze? :(
[05:18] <Chlorate> jim_p, Cause I'm on 64bit and they're not working! So will that really help!?
[05:18] <roukoun> ArtVandalae: it is an external hdd with vfat format
[05:18] <jim_p> Anza: probably some huge databese of tracks makes it read and read
[05:18] <ilec> okay so my ethernet adapter is: intel  RTL8111/81 68B PCIexpress Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[05:19] <dfgas> soemthing happen to my buddys file system and it booted up to a prompt. well no i don't know what he did but now he got it to boot into X but everything is read-only. i asume he got the file system to mount read only. how does he fix it?
[05:19] <Anza> jim_p, that could be it, I will try moving the music database somewhere else
[05:19] <[Solaris]> whats the command to make a bash script executable?
[05:19] <jim_p> Chlorate: they dont work in 64 bits? what os? the 1st time i hear such thing. or is it the devices on them that dont wirk?
[05:19] <jim_p> *work
[05:19] <callkalpa> anyone know how to create a customized ubuntu CD ?
[05:20] <jim_p> dfgas: he probably booted into resque mode
[05:20] <winnipegm> hi there i need sum help mounting my raid onto ubuntu... it was previously on gentoo linux until sas hardward died thanks for any help i can get :)
[05:20] <dfgas> jim_p: how do i get him to fix what ever is wrong with this system?
[05:20] <jim_p> [Solaris]: chmod +x file.sh
[05:20] <Chlorate> jim_p, Dunno. I have tried to get my usb ports to work! I am just out of options. I'm on Ubuntu. My USB ports won't detect any devices. Ive tried multiple flash drives
[05:20] <roukoun> dfgas: to change the read-only mode you have to edit the /etc/fstab
[05:20] <roukoun> ArtVandalae: ???
[05:21] <jim_p> dfgas: tell him to sudo reboot, and select the uppermost option in grub menu
[05:21] <dfgas> roukoun: he doesn't know how to do that
[05:21] <jim_p> dfgas: if that doesn work, we did something bad
[05:21] <callkalpa> anyone know how to create a customized ubuntu CD ?
[05:21] <jim_p> !remaster
[05:22] <jim_p> callkalpa: see what the bot just said
[05:22] <callkalpa> thanks :-)
[05:22] <joebob777as7> anyone know if there is a way to force an iso to mount? I get bad superblock when trying to mount avchd iso files
[05:23] <jim_p> Chlorate: what mobo do you have? in brief
[05:23] <jim_p> joebob777as7: was that iso converted to .iso from some other filetype extention/
[05:23] <joebob777as7> jim_p, ripped from blu-ray to iso
[05:24] <scientus> does video memory count against the 4gb limit?
[05:24] <jim_p> joebob777as7: sorry i cant help you then
[05:24] <jim_p> scientus: no. on a 32bit system the video memory will be "cut" from ram though
[05:24] <Chlorate> jim_p, no clue. What's a command I can do to look it up?
[05:25] <jim_p> Chlorate: lspci and let me guess!
[05:25] <jim_p> !lshw
[05:25] <jim_p> does anybody know some stuff about the lshw command?
[05:25] <roukoun> dfgas: the file that controls the sda1 is the /etc/fstab so if the fstab tells the sda1 to be mounted in read-only mode then you have to edit it if you want something different!
[05:25] <[myg0t]skillztha> NIGGER
[05:25] <[myg0t]skillztha> I HATE NIGGERS
[05:26] <FloodBot1> [myg0t]skillztha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <roukoun> dfgas: can you pastebin the /etc/fstab?
[05:26] <joebob777as7> [myg0t]skillztha, so racist don't be a homo
[05:26] <dfgas> its not my computer and he lives on the other side of the state. if it was mine it would be fixed  :D
[05:26] <dfgas> he did not touch the fstab at all
[05:26] <Chlorate> jim_p, Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge Is that it?
[05:27] <roukoun> dfgas: can you tell him to pastebin its fstab?
[05:27] <dfgas> but the partition is mounted read-only now
[05:27] <dfgas> i am trying to
[05:27] <jim_p> Chlorate: no. paste the entire output in pastebin
[05:27] <dfgas> but again, i know there is nothing wrong with it
[05:28] <roukoun> dfgas: fstab defines if a device is going to be mounted in read-only mode
[05:28] <turtle_> no luck with Swiftfox 64?
[05:28] <user-04> wan
[05:28] <Chlorate> jim_p, Okay. I pasted it
[05:29] <sdfsdfds> j
[05:29] <user-04> jakarta
[05:29] <jim_p> Chlorate: can i see it (you post the url here) :P
[05:29] <user-04> lampung
[05:29] <Chlorate> jim_p, Oh duh. Ehehehe.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/53654/
[05:30] <jim_p> Chlorate: give me some time to find the mobo
[05:30] <Chlorate> jim_p take your time.
[05:34] <jim_p> Chlorate: is it a laptop? anyway the amd 690 chipset it has is supported by the kernel
[05:35] <RHorse> puff, I noticed your exclude list isn't even in your source directory tree! Won't be synced anyway!
[05:35] <neeto> My DHCP server will not recognize my eth0 device to listen on. Help
[05:35] <Chlorate> jim_p, Yes. It's a laptop. So what's that mean? I mean it is detected I think, but if I plug something in like a flash drive, it doesn't mount or whatever
[05:36] <acu> I am runing Kopete 0.12.7 and have no sound - any hint ?
[05:36] <[Solaris]> how do you change ownership of a file
[05:36] <bill_> chown command
[05:36] <neeto> [Solaris]: chown <user> file
[05:36] <BrianFreytag> sudo chown user:user filename.xh
[05:37] <jim_p> acu: kopete in gnome enviroment?
[05:37] <acu> jim_p: no - KDE 3.5.9
[05:37] <BrianFreytag> has anyone heard anything from ATI or Xorg about Catalyst drivers being supported in Intrepid?
[05:38] <bill_> ...the story with ATI not making valid 3d drivers is getting into me....
[05:38] <jim_p> acu: then have a look at kdes control center for notifications or ask #kubuntu
[05:38] <roukoun> i have created a new user in my pc... i dont why but a removable hd change its ownership... now im trying to change it to its default but when im issuing the command: 'sudo chown roukoun /media/My\ Book' it says 'Operation not permitted'
[05:38] <BrianFreytag> I  there is a work around by removing xorg 7.4 and downgrading to 7.3
[05:39] <BrianFreytag> there are also rumors about 8.10 of catalyst supporting intrepid... any truth to that rumor, do you know?
[05:39] <bill_> i think you must mount the drive as read/write and users defined aswell. fstab or mtab config file
[05:39] <Flannel> BrianFreytag: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid questions, thanks
[05:39] <jim_p> Chlorate: the mobo chipset is supported by the linux kernel,so i dont know what to say
[05:40] <Chlorate> jim_p, Blah. No ideas at all?
[05:40] <BrianFreytag> copy that Flannel.. thanks
[05:40] <ianliu_88> How do I install new spellcheckers for openoffice?
[05:40] <puff> RHorse: Doh!
[05:40] <puff> RHorse: Good catch.
[05:41] <jim_p> Chlorate: no nothing. you can insert a usb device and check how lsudb understands it
[05:41] <RHorse> rsync requires lots of trial and error but once you get it, it's invaluable tool. good luck. good night all!
[05:42] <jim_p> Chlorate: and make sure the usb ports are not disables from bios :P
[05:44] <Chlorate> jim_p, http://paste.ubuntu.com/53656/
[05:44] <owen1> how to connect a laptop to an external monitor? (there is a key to send the signal to a monitor but it's not working on my vaio)
[05:44] <jim_p> owen1: you need to change xorg.conf
[05:45] <owen1> jim_p: ok. what should i change there?
[05:45] <jim_p> Chlorate: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 04f2:b070 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd      do you have this device on a usb port? then the usb port works
[05:45] <dr_willis> owen1,  will depend on your chipset  to some degree.
[05:46] <dr_willis> owen1,  i know how to do it with nvidia. but  not ati/intel.
[05:46] <jim_p> owen1: there is a different setup depending on your vga i think. i dont know more. do you have xinerama instaled?
[05:46] <Chlorate> Chlorate, Yeah. I also took it out and it still said it.
[05:46] <very_common> ok i m running vsftpd server as a explicit TLS/ssl  and using filezilla as a client when i login i get reply " cannot list file "  can anyone help pls ??
[05:46] <owen1> jim_p: i can install it if needed.
[05:46] <AussieGuy> is it fine to put thousands of entries into your /etc/hosts?
[05:47] <jim_p> owen1: if you want something like expanded desktop, do so
[05:47] <very_common> none ??
[05:47] <owen1> jim_p: i don't care about fancy stuff. just want to see the screen on tv.
[05:47] <dr_willis> AussieGuy,  ive seen 'anti-ad hosts files' that do that.
[05:48] <jim_p> AussieGuy: yes and no. thousands of entries usually mean adblocking through hosts file, but it sometimes delayes a lot with network related tasks
[05:48] <dr_willis> owen1,  tv out - is a bit different from 2nd monitor also...
[05:48] <owen1> dr_willis: i want tv out. no need for second monitor. unless it gives the same result.
[05:48] <jim_p> dr_willis: like putting the addblocking stuff somewhere else/
[05:49] <very_common> Error:	Failed to retrieve directory listing
[05:49] <very_common> ok i m running vsftpd server as a explicit TLS/ssl and using filezilla as a client when i login i get reply " cannot list file " can anyone help pls
[05:49] <jim_p> Chlorate: it stays there? is something else connected on anyusb port?
[05:50] <Chlorate> jim_p, Nothing else is connected.
[05:51] <jim_p> Chlorate: then something IS broken
[05:51] <dr_willis> jim_p,  i use the adblock extensions, or privoxy proxy
[05:52] <Chlorate> jim_p, Yeap. =(
[05:52] <indos12> Lutfi_27
[05:53] <pretender> can anyone help my mytharchive just sits there doing nothing running Mythbuntu and Gutsy.  Mytharcive temp directory set to  /usr/share/mythtv/mytharchive/temp
[05:53] <jim_p> Chlorate: have you tried some other live cd, or even from enother distro to check?
[05:54] <user-04> w
[05:54] <user-04> w
[05:54] <Gnea> who
[05:55] <kho_zhi> hi guys, know any network security chatroom?
[05:56] <Chlorate> jim_p, Not yet. What one would you suggest?
[05:56] <starn> anybody know any way to fix firefox 3 from crashing when viewing flash videos?
[05:56] <hard^^> hi
[05:57] <sam007> :)
[05:58] <jim_p> Chlorate: parted magic live cd. ~50MB, can boot to ram because of its size, its fast and gets your maintnance work done. plus it has the latest kernel 2.6.26
[05:59] <person> hi, i was wondering if there was any trivia scripts for xchat
[05:59] <person> anyone know?
[05:59] <Gnea> person: try asking in #xchat
[06:00] <dr_willis> xchat web site has lots of scripts/info
[06:00] <havocstorm> Does anyone know if Rhythmbox supports ipod synch now?
[06:00] <person> thanks Gnea
[06:00] <Chlorate> jim_p, Think you could walk me through it to make sure I don't mess up?
[06:01] <jim_p> Chlorate: sure
[06:01] <Chlorate> jim_p, Ah nevermind.. I don't have a spare CD. I usually use my USB for this kindof stuff!
[06:02] <jim_p> Chlorate: download the lice usb parted magic stuff then!
[06:03] <roukoun> i have created a new user in my pc... i dont why but a removable hd change its ownership... now im trying to change it to its default but when im issuing the command: 'sudo chown roukoun /media/My\ Book' it says 'Operation not permitted'
[06:04] <Chlorate> jim_p, Well I mean my flash drive can't be detected so normally I would install stuff through my usb
[06:04] <JasonWoof> I'm having a weird mouse problem where I cannot select text in xterm by dragging, or use pulldowns in firefox. I played with xev for a while, and discovered
[06:05] <jim_p> Chlorate: you are right :(
[06:05] <JasonWoof> that when I press fn+up (brightness increase) I get an unending stream of these events:
[06:05] <JasonWoof> http://rafb.net/p/z696SL97.html
[06:05] <owen1> how to send the video signal to my tv? i have Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950.
[06:05] <JasonWoof> although the screen only brightens the once
[06:05] <Darksaeder`idle> hello ubuntu lovers :)
[06:05] <JasonWoof> same things happens with brightness-down
[06:06] <JasonWoof> only way to stop it seems to be to press fn+somethingelse, like fn+pageDn (which is vol-down) or fn+f12 which is scroll lk
[06:07] <Darksaeder`idle> can someone point me in the direction of how to set a bash script to run every...(lets say every hour for examply) that will tell wifi radar to disconnect, then reconnect to a certain router/network
[06:07] <jim_p> JasonWoof: do the buttons react like "increase brightness" / "decrease brightness" when they are pressed?
[06:07] <Darksaeder`idle> example*
[06:07] <JasonWoof> yes, the screen brightness functions work as expected
[06:07] <Chlorate> jim_p, Nevermind! I have a CD! I will burn it then
[06:08] <jim_p> Chlorate: ok then
[06:09] <jim_p> JasonWoof: then they work fine. better check if they conflict with some system shortcut
[06:09] <Darksaeder`idle> no worries, i found some crontab whitepapers
[06:10] <JasonWoof> jim_p: but according to xev there sticking
[06:10] <JasonWoof> also, when I stop the repeating by hitting scroll lock or something, I still can't select in xterm
[06:10] <JasonWoof> oh, here's another clue, the KeymapNotify thing from xev always has 103 as the first number
[06:10] <JasonWoof> I think that's unusual
[06:11] <JasonWoof> jim_p: how do I check for system shortcuts?
[06:11] <jim_p> JasonWoof: System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts
[06:12] <Chlorate> jim_p, Okay it burned.  I've got wmii, you think it's a problem with wmii?
[06:13] <Chlorate> jim_p, Alright be right back.
[06:13] <JasonWoof> I'll try switching window managers and see if I can fix it that way
[06:13] <Chlorate> jim_p, Well, rather. What should I do when I am there?
[06:13] <jim_p> JasonWoof: ok, although i dont think that gnome's showtcuts will work on some other wm
[06:14] <eTiger13> if i changed the default port of sshd, how do i change it back to 22?
[06:15] <Kjoery> I'm trying to compile code using KDE4. Specifically, ktorrent-3.1.3. The installation guide says to use the command: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/path/to/prefix/of/kde4/installation . What should be the prefix, and the path? Thanks!
[06:15] <jim_p> JasonWoof: i found something about keyboard shortcuts in wmii
[06:17] <eugman> Any suggestions on a program for doing some pixel art in?
[06:17] <jim_p> Kjoery: although the best thing you can do is to wait for ktorrent 3 to be released in the ubuntu repos, i suggest you use "/usr/bin" as the path requested there
[06:17] <Kjoery> Okay, thanks
[06:17] <jim_p> eugman: mtpaint?
[06:18] <marcustomized> Kjoery PREFIX=/usr/local/
[06:18] <Flannel> Kjoery, jim_p: things you compile yourself belong in /usr/local/*
[06:18] <jim_p> thanks
[06:18] <crazz> I"m looking for a program to get the desktop background to change automatically from a specified list of pics... can't seem to find one under add/remove programs in Ubuntu... any recommendations?
[06:19] <eugman> thanks
[06:19] <marcustomized> I think "feh" can display random walls from a specified directory
[06:19] <Flannel> crazz: Add/remove is a small subset of the total packages/programs available.  Try using synaptic package manager.
[06:19] <crazz> feh, synaptic, got it... thx
[06:20] <Dr_willis> its also farly esay to do a script that does random wallpapers. :)
[06:20] <JasonWoof> jim_p: I logged out of my session, and had the same problem with the pulldowns on the gdm screen
[06:21] <JasonWoof> to choose gnome I had to click the pulldown, then use the keyboard to select "gnome"
[06:21] <user1> can anyone help me with telinit?
[06:21] <jim_p> JasonWoof: i found some documentation, but it is in greek :( http://foss.ntua.gr/wiki/index.php/WMII_howto
[06:21] <crazz> marcustomized, where do i find FEH after installation?
[06:21] <bpr> why is it that my "Passwords and Encryption Keys" application fails to generate a PGP key?
[06:21] <jim_p> JasonWoof: pm me if you want to translate anything, i am greek
[06:21] <JasonWoof> jim_p: I know how to remap my keys in wmii
[06:22] <marcustomized> i would guess "/usr/bin"
[06:22] <bpr> I have the default install of Hardy
[06:22] <bpr> it creates SSH keys without a problem
[06:22] <user1> i am trying to switch to a CLI by using init 3 or telinit 3 but nothing happens
[06:22] <marcustomized> crazz, in your terminal, type "whereis feh"
[06:22] <tritium> user1: debian and ubuntu use 2 runlevels
[06:23] <tritium> Well, 3 if you count 0.
[06:23] <cyrus__> Trying to install a program (Brisa) and it requires gstreamer0.10-bad, python-gst . how can I find if these packages exists for ubuntu?
[06:23] <crazz> thx marcom
[06:23] <user1> the cmd is telinit 2?
[06:23] <owen1> i opened port 22 on my router. wneh running ssh from the same machine i get 'connection refused'
[06:23] <Nallep> How can I start downloading the distribution upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, I just want to start downloading for now, and install on several machines later on.
[06:23] <crazz> marcustomized, so it's command-line only and not installed anywhere in the menus
[06:23] <crazz> ?
[06:24] <marcustomized> crazz, correct
[06:24] <jim_p> Nallep: download the alternative installation cd and use it as an upgrade in sources.list
[06:24] <marcustomized> its fairly simple to setup tho
[06:24] <marcustomized> brb
[06:24] <crazz> Nallep : System, Administration, Update Manager - should be a box on top that says to upgrade to new version
[06:25] <ballzee> can you download the dvd ?
[06:25] <JasonWoof> jim_p: huh, just noticed my trackpad works fine
[06:26] <acu> did anyone made sound work in Kopete ?
[06:26] <Nallep> jim_p: thx, I'll do that,       crazz I know from the gui, but I just wanted to download, not do a complete install just yet, I'll download the alternate cd, thx
[06:26] <JasonWoof> something related to that mouse, I'll try replacing the batteries
[06:26] <MrObvious> !samba
[06:26] <bpr> anyone know why seahorse (v 2.22.2) would fail to generate a PGP keypair on Hardy (default install)
[06:27] <JasonWoof> jim_p: well, I'll be damned. New mouse batteries fixed it. Thank you for your help!
[06:27] <jim_p> Nallep: keep in mind thet the alternate cd will only update packages thet already are on the disk!!! for instace, i dont think it can update mplayer!
[06:28] <jim_p> JasonWoof: mouse? you said the Fn keys!! anyway, you are welcome
[06:28] <JasonWoof> the fn key was doing weird stuff in xev
[06:28] <crazz> marcustomized, that program appears to just be a command-line image viewer... I'm after something that actually changes the desktop background at specified intervals reading random image from specified folder
[06:28] <marcustomized> crazz, u can find a great deal of info setting up feh at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Feh
[06:28] <Nallep> jim_p: I know, I'm not worried about that, jsut want to get the comps upgraded this weekend, worry about individual software later
[06:28] <JasonWoof> jim_p: still does weird stuff in xev, but I guess that's unrelated
[06:29] <jim_p> JasonWoof: lets hope not
[06:29] <Darksaeder`idle> when specifying a directory in a bash script, what is the sign for starting at the file system level? i mean where /bin/ /root/ /proc/ /etc/ all are. would it be ~/root/ to specify /root/ folder (for example) ?
[06:29] <crazz> marcustomized, i.e. I just read the "Man" on feh and didn't see anything related to desktop background
[06:29] <smm289> I just shared a folder by using the right click share option in Nautilus (hardy).  I then open up my XP VM, I go to the network computers listed under the XP but the new share is not listed.  Do I have to log out of ubuntu then log back in in order for the share to to effect, is there a way to force the share to be published to the rest of the network computers without rebooting?
[06:30] <roukoun> what's the command to add modules to perl? i want to use the Tk module but it isnt installed by default
[06:30] <marcustomized> crazz, feh can set the background with the command "feh --bg-scale /path/to/wallpaper.jpg"
[06:30] <marcustomized> it doesnt HAVE to be a .jpg, just an example
[06:31] <JasonWoof> roukoun: sudo apt-get install perl-tk
[06:31] <crazz> thanks marcustomized, must've missed that in the man... I"ll read the page ya gave me... appreciate it, thx.
[06:31] <roukoun> JasonWoof: thanks
[06:31] <user1> how can i run in a CLI environment away from x?
[06:31] <tuntun> Hi, How do I set DOS to sort alphabetically by *default*?
[06:31] <JasonWoof> user1: ctrl+shift+F2
[06:31] <tritium> user1: Ctrl-Alt-F1 through Ctrl-Alt-F6
[06:31] <Flannel> user1: ctrl-alt-fX where X is 1-6, 7 gets you back
[06:31] <jim_p> smm289: how is the host and the guest pc connected to each other? (what do you have under network in vbox?
[06:32] <JasonWoof> user1: ctrl+shift+F7 to get back to X
[06:32] <Flannel> tuntun: You mean your shell? (it isn't DOS).  It does by default
[06:32] <coonlokht_> ver irc.undernet.org
[06:32] <tritium> JasonWoof: don't forget F1 and F3 -- F6.
[06:32] <user1> JasonWoof: thanks, that works.
[06:32] <JasonWoof> tritium: tmi ;)
[06:32] <user1> I should have known that.
[06:32] <user1> Im going to the dungeon.............................
[06:33] <tuntun> Flannel, oh, I didn't mean to post it here... I meant xp cmd.exe
[06:33] <JasonWoof> hehe
[06:34] <smm289> Jim_p: Host PC is running ubuntu, the gues OS is running XP Vm using virtual box OSE.  The XP machine can see all shares in the workgroup, this includes multiple ubuntu boxes.  I just shared a folder on the host, I want the Virtual Machine, XP OS to recognize it, but I dont want to log out of the host then log back in.  The log out log in usually makes it work for the first time a new share is created, I just dont want to reboot, wonderin
[06:36] <jim_p> smm289: i think this was a bug, i dont know if they fixed it
[06:36] <jim_p> smm289: ask at #vbox
[06:36] <smm289> thanks
[06:36] <smm289> !goto
[06:37] <swapna> can anyone please explain me about signal handling in linux
[06:37] <Darksaeder`idle> if i set a crontab for root, using gnome-schedule, and im lokked in as a user, will the bash script i set in the crontab to run every hour run every hour regardless of wether i still have gnome-schedule open?
[06:37] <SebNaitsabes> how do I get the Live CD  to run commands on my  Ubuntu partition?  is it just CD into it.  like cd /media/whatever or?
[06:39] <Darksaeder`idle> can someone answer me please? if i set a crontab fr root will it run regardless of what user is logged in? or do i need to set my bash script to sudo?
[06:39] <Syndrone> #lol
[06:39] <marcustomized> SebNait, just mount it and go nuts
[06:39] <Syndrone> join #lol
[06:40] <odiv> ntop/rc.local help, anyone?
[06:40] <marcustomized> Darksaed, what are you trying to do?
[06:40] <odiv> ntop is in my rc.local file for startup, but doesn't seem to start with the settings I have written in there.
[06:40] <odiv> Also, I can't see ntop in top.
[06:41] <odiv> How can I kill it?
[06:41] <user3_> bnbn b
[06:41] <endra> hi
[06:41] <endra> can nickel metal hydride batteries be used in place of alkaline batteries in all devices
[06:41] <Yota79> Server: irc.moofspeak.net
[06:41] <Reff67> lear
[06:41] <user-03> oi
[06:42] <user-03> yes i can
[06:42] <Flannel> endra: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42]  * Darksaeder`idle was just about to say that
[06:42] <Darksaeder`idle> :P
[06:44] <nomin> is something currently wrong with the repositories?
[06:44] <SebNaitsabes> in what way?
[06:44] <SebNaitsabes> nomin: in what way?
[06:44] <nomin> I'm getting "failed" messages when I say to reload in synaptic
[06:44] <swapna> plz explain about signal handling in linux
[06:44] <odiv> I only seem to be able to get B&W on the svideo out of my geforce 6800 vanilla. Anywhere I can look for help on that? (besides google :P)
[06:44] <nomin> medibuntu won't connect also
[06:45] <SebNaitsabes> nomin: can you download anything?
[06:45] <nomin> SebNaitsabes: I'll check
[06:45] <jim_p> odiv: change from PAL to NTSC or the other way round
[06:46] <marcustomized> swapna, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3985
[06:47] <nomin> SebNaitsabes: yes, I can download packages.  I'll look into this more to see what's going on.  I know medibuntu repos can't be accessed right now.
[06:47] <odiv> jim_p: I'll try that, thanks.
[06:48] <Darksaeder`idle> what is the bash alternative to PHP's $argv array that provides the command-line input that was used
[06:49] <Darksaeder`idle> its $0/$1/$2/$3
[06:49] <Darksaeder`idle> thanks for the help
[06:49]  * Darksaeder`idle rolls his eyes sarcastically
[06:50] <odiv> jim_p: Where is that setting? In the NVidia X Server settings somewhere?
[06:51] <jim_p> odiv: i dont know. i dont use nvidia. what i said is a general rule for your problem. Better look in xorg.conf
[06:51] <jim_p> odiv: and me too
[06:52] <jamesish> odiv: just joined; what was the issue?
[06:52] <cyrus__> I am looking for a package (python-gst). The following website says it is in the pacakge repository - http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/python-gst
[06:52] <odiv> cool, thanks jim
[06:52] <odiv> jamesish: b&w nvidia svideo out.
[06:52] <odiv> can't seem to get colour.
[06:52] <criso> cyrus__, and?
[06:52] <jamesish> odiv: what have you done so far?
[06:52] <cyrus__> criso - when I run apt-get install python-gst it says not found
[06:53] <jim_p> cyrus__: python-gst0.10
[06:53] <criso> or download the deb and use dpkg -i
[06:53] <criso> the dependencies are standard
[06:53] <odiv> gone through every screen of the nvidia x server settings. updated my drivers (which gave me saturation settings, which helped the flicker!)
[06:53] <odiv> googling now. :)
[06:54] <jamesish> odiv: I suspect jim_p is corret, then. The nvidia driver has a great configuration instructions page online, it'll tell you what the best solution is. I used it to configure dual monitors and whatnot.
[06:55] <odiv> also, noob question. How do I kill something I can't find in top?
[06:57] <jim_p> odiv: if you know what it is, killall app
[06:57] <jim_p> odiv: if you dont know, maximize the terminal window :P
[06:57] <odiv> cool. For some reason my ntop isn't starting correctly.
[06:57] <odiv> from the parameters in rc.local.
[06:57] <jamesish> odiv; alternatively, you can use ps auxww | grep foo where foo is the name of the process to try and find its pid.
[06:57] <odiv> maybe something else is starting it first.
[06:57] <Geancarlo> hi to all
[06:58] <marcustomized> hibyebi
[06:59] <odiv> excellent, thank you jamesish and jim.
[06:59] <odiv> couldn't find it in top even with the window maxed.
[06:59] <criso> you can sort top
[06:59] <Killeroid> hi guys, what is the name of the app that I install emerald themes in?
[07:00] <Flannel> odiv: try ps aux instead of top.  Or use xkill or one of those sorts of things.
[07:00] <u007> hi, anyone can help me with a corrupted SD ext3 partition? it happened to corrupt due to suspend of the system :(
[07:00] <odiv> Flannel: Yeah, ps aux worked just fine.
[07:00] <marcustomized> can u corrupt a partition by suspending o.O?
[07:00] <odiv> Now I have to figure out what's starting it incorrectly in the first place :)
[07:00] <marcustomized> whats wrong with it?
[07:01] <odiv> linux: an adventure. :)
[07:01] <jamesish> odiv: the w flags on ps expand the listing; so if the name of your program is truncated with the default output, the w flags can sometimes help a lot.
[07:01] <u007> marcustomized, its SDcard, thats why
[07:01] <u007> marcustomized, i just realised it :(
[07:01] <odiv> jamesish: I noticed that, thanks. That's how I can tell it's definitely not the one I want to be running (from my rc.local)
[07:02] <marcustomized> so you formatted the SD card to Ext3, or are you assuming it is?
[07:02] <u007> marcustomized, it is confirmed on ext3, i was using it b4 it corrupt :(
[07:02] <swapna> thanks marcustomized
[07:02] <odiv> Hm.  Apparently this B&W issue has been solved in the past with an svideo to composite adapter.
[07:02] <vasilisa> Well #xml, #cegui and #ogre3d are silent. Anyone here know how to tell cegui to use tinyxml instead of xerces? Ogre's not runinng thes xsd files and i dont know squat about em
[07:02] <marcustomized> no prob swapna, u007, can u mount it?
[07:03] <odiv> I'm outputting at 60hz, which is apparently NTSC... I think.
[07:03] <u007> marcustomized, no...
[07:03] <u007> wait.. let me try
[07:03] <marcustomized> the journal is probably screwed up then
[07:03] <marcustomized> hold on
[07:04] <ludwig__> grettings.. i have the following error:  * Stopping domain name service... bind                                         rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[07:04] <ludwig__>                                                                          [fail]
[07:04] <ludwig__>  * Starting domain name service... bind
[07:04] <ludwig__> been trying to figure it out.. for a while
[07:04] <odiv> I'll just have to watch old movies on this box until I get the colour fixed :P
[07:04] <swapna> can you tell me what exactly set_up_frame function does in signal handler
[07:05]  * fallenhope|sleep is away: Sleeeeeeeep leave a message I'll get back to you in the AM....well.. when I wake up
[07:05] <u007> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk0,
[07:05] <u007> [  198.975696] EXT3-fs error (device mmcblk0): ext3_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 0)!
[07:05] <grendal_prime> ok this is making me crazy..i cant sent an image from my phone to my laptop via bluetooth..but i can send an image from my laptop to my phone, that make any sence?
[07:06] <marcustomized> yeh, its most definitely the journal, but i cant remember the command to fix it :(
[07:06] <csilk> is there a way to find out what date a package was added to packages.ubuntu.com ?
[07:06] <u007> marcustomized, okay, let me search :)
[07:06] <tritium> fallenhope|sleep: please disable that
[07:06] <criso> what if you try mount it as ext2 ro?
[07:06] <u007> criso, won't it corrupt it?
[07:06] <grendal_prime> it sees the laptop, says its connecting to it..but never completes the connection
[07:06] <Geoffrey2> is it possible to build Empathy 2.24 from source in Ubuntu 8.04?
[07:06] <marcustomized> no, that wont
[07:06] <csilk> is there a way to find out what date a package was added to packages.ubuntu.com ?
[07:06] <criso> you had better dd it to your hard drive first
[07:07] <Socialoutcast> any of you guys running Ubuntu on your PS3?
[07:07] <ludwig__> i'm trying to set p a bind server.. and the only thing i'm wondering about is the named.conf.options file is my problem
[07:07] <criso> always ghost before you try any recovery
[07:07] <csilk> oh.. yeah.. the chnagelog
[07:07] <ludwig__> yes i'm using ps3 ubuntu now
[07:07] <csilk> hah
[07:07] <u007> [  214.965027] EXT2-fs error (device mmcblk0): ext2_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 1 not in group (block 0)!
[07:07] <criso> :/
[07:07] <Socialoutcast> how is it?
[07:07] <ludwig__> well..
[07:07] <Socialoutcast> does it work better than yellow dog?
[07:07] <ludwig__> aside from having to recompile the kernel
[07:07] <ludwig__> never tried yellow dog
[07:07] <Socialoutcast> lol dont
[07:07] <ludwig__> i'm more of a debian/ubuntu guy
[07:07] <grendal_prime> bluetooth?
[07:07] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrr
[07:07] <Socialoutcast> updates are slower than hell
[07:08] <ludwig__> aaah
[07:08] <Socialoutcast> why did u need to reompile?
[07:08] <ludwig__> i use it because it's in the living room
[07:08] <ludwig__> wifi support
[07:08] <Socialoutcast> ah
[07:08] <Socialoutcast> hard to get working?
[07:08] <ludwig__> nope
[07:08] <Socialoutcast> you have a link on it?
[07:08] <marcustomized> u007, its not the journal then
[07:08] <ludwig__> grab new source
[07:08] <criso> btw how long does it take to compile kernel on ps3?
[07:08] <ludwig__> recompile
[07:08] <Socialoutcast> I am a fedora and Red Hat guy lol
[07:08] <u007> marcustomized, damn, my files :(
[07:09] <criso> assuming you didnt cross compile or something
[07:09] <ludwig__> lol
[07:09] <Socialoutcast> first experiance with Ubuntu
[07:09] <ludwig__> i wish you tried ubuntu on desktop
[07:09] <marcustomized> i found a random blog entry with a situation similar to yours
[07:09] <marcustomized> want the link?
[07:09] <ludwig__> there aren't enough ppc items.. that i'd enjoy
[07:09] <u007> marcustomized, yeah, sure :)
[07:09] <ludwig__> err in the repositories
[07:09] <marcustomized> http://aniraj.blogspot.com/2006/05/data-recovery-technique-from-corrupted.html
[07:10] <twelve> hello
[07:10] <u007> thanks marcustomized :)
[07:10] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to build Empathy 2.24...it configures fine but the build process is crashing with numerous errors....
[07:10] <marcustomized> hope it works for u
[07:10] <ludwig__> i haven't found vlc and honestly.. i usually just watch blue ray in ps3 mode
[07:10] <Daps> G'mornin' Anyone with any insight into installation of (pure-ftpd) ???
[07:10] <ludwig__> it's all about time i guess
[07:10] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:10] <ludwig__> do you know how to set up bind
[07:10] <ludwig__> i'm having issues
[07:11] <Socialoutcast> whats the problem?
[07:11] <ludwig__> i guess thats a personal problem, but seriously
[07:11] <ludwig__> :)
[07:11] <jamesish> marcustomized: fsck might get it.
[07:11] <ludwig__> well, when i restart bind i get error, port 953 connect rndc failed..
[07:11] <Socialoutcast> hmm
[07:11] <Socialoutcast> have u googled the error lol
[07:12] <jamesish> marcustomized: there's a version specifically for ext2, too. I used it on ext3 once without arsing everything up.
[07:12] <ludwig__> of course
[07:12] <ludwig__> and i've read every gentoo, debian, ubuntu, tldp howto i can think of
[07:12] <ludwig__> err google
[07:12] <ludwig__> truthfully, i think my named.local.conf is wrong
[07:13] <marcustomized> jamesish, tell u007,
[07:13] <Cheeky> could anyone help me with my web cam .. when i plug it in ..and start skype it works find but when i try to use it on web chat room it rezodnizes my camera but doesnt turn on can anyone assiste me with this please?
[07:13] <ludwig__> i have forwarders setup to <IP_ADDRESS>:
[07:13] <Socialoutcast> do the logs give you anything more than just that error?
[07:13] <ludwig__> and maybe it's confusing it
[07:13] <ludwig__> err yeah
[07:13] <ludwig__> my logs, rats.. well it's full of dropped packets. let me look see
[07:13] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:13] <u007> jamesish, e2fsck fail :(
[07:14] <u007> my group descriptor for the partition is bad
[07:14] <jamesish> have you read the man page and tried the various options? There's one to do a manual step by step.
[07:14] <Socialoutcast> is there a need to have a forwarder to the local host?
[07:14] <ludwig__> in your experience,do you unremark query-source address * port 53; when there is a firewall between you and nameservers?
[07:14] <jamesish> Um, I'm assuming it's not mouinted when you're doing fsck?
[07:14] <ludwig__> i have that port open
[07:14] <Socialoutcast> I dont think you need to
[07:15] <u007> jamesish, i can't mount yet
[07:15] <u007> all mount fail :(
[07:15] <paul68> hi I have a question about thunderbird
[07:15] <Socialoutcast> is this fore internal DNS only?
[07:15] <Socialoutcast> for*
[07:15] <ludwig__> ok, i'm getting another error in tail /var/log/syslog
[07:15] <ludwig__> allow-recursion
[07:16] <Socialoutcast> hmmm
[07:16] <Socialoutcast> new install of Bind?
[07:16] <Socialoutcast> well full new config anyway?
[07:16] <paul68> I want to sort mail mails by sender in ascending order and group them by sort
[07:16] <marcustomized> u007, have u tried tune2fs
[07:17] <u007> no...
[07:17] <u007> mm
[07:17] <ludwig__> line 26 "allow-recursion { <IP_ADDRESS> }
[07:17] <paul68> however I can't sort the mails from that group in descending order
[07:17] <paul68> how can I solve this
[07:17] <ludwig__> allow-recursion { <IP_ADDRESS>; };
[07:17] <jamesish> http://www.examnotes.net/archive90-2002-11-82844.html
[07:17] <Digital_1> Anyone using MythTV on Ubuntu who can compare the experience to KnoppMyth?
[07:17] <ludwig__> it's the latest bind
[07:17] <Cheeky> has anyone got their webcams to work in ubuntu?
[07:17] <Socialoutcast> hmmm
[07:17] <ludwig__> webcams yes
[07:18] <Socialoutcast> try removing the local host forwarers
[07:18] <dr_willis> Cheeky,  it VERY much depends on the specific webcam
[07:18] <Socialoutcast> forwarders*
[07:18] <ludwig__> you have to have one that works :) in linux
[07:18] <ludwig__> or has support
[07:18] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:18] <Digital_1> Yeah these days ANYTHING I buy MUST work with Linux.
[07:18] <odiv> Hey, what do you know. Reading the man page did the trick.
[07:18] <ludwig__> yeah, it stops the impulse buying at least
[07:18] <Socialoutcast> man page FTW
[07:18] <Digital_1> lol- true
[07:19] <Cheeky> dr_willis: its a logitec web cam that i have it seem to work using skype but doesnt work when i got to chat rooms .. like i gave it permission through firefox but still doesnt turn on
[07:19] <ludwig__> i used to be dangerous with a credit card and at micro digital/bestbuy/pc blamo
[07:19] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:19] <Digital_1> Its amazing though, because really its getting to the point where anything Windows can do so can Ubuntu.
[07:19] <Socialoutcast> I have 5 PC and 2 laptops in my house
[07:19] <dotch> hello all. i have a problem with infra-red on my Thinkpad. i cannot seem to get it to work with Hardy 8.04 although it worked really well under gutsy
[07:19] <ludwig__> now i'm always thinking... do you think it'll be recognized.. is there support
[07:19] <Socialoutcast> they all have some form of Unix/Linux on them
[07:19] <odiv> jim_p, jamesish: there's a setting for SVIDEO in my xorg.conf.
[07:20] <winnipegm> im running newest ubuntu and smb4k but when i view my network on windows my ubuntu folders dont show up on the network is there sumthing i need to do?
[07:20] <jim_p> odiv: are you asking us or have you found it?
[07:20] <ludwig__> yes.  i only using windows in a vm
[07:20] <odiv> I've found it.
[07:20] <odiv> it did the trick :)
[07:20] <u007> bah.. google didnt help much, i'm doomed :(
[07:20] <Socialoutcast> I have ESXi for all my VM needs lol
[07:20] <jim_p> odiv: well done
[07:20] <jamesish> odiv: welcome to linux.
[07:20] <odiv> heh
[07:20] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:21] <odiv> yay colour.
[07:21] <ludwig__> ok it successfully restarted, but!  rndc connect failed.
[07:21] <dr_willis> Cheeky,  err... webcams in flash/browser.. are not supported - at this time with flash.. i belive
[07:21] <Socialoutcast> I really wish the PS3 was a bit quicker with linux
[07:21] <ludwig__> rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused
[07:21] <odiv> and now, onto ntop.
[07:21] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:21] <Cheeky> dr_willis: actually i found a site that can be used but iam not sure it work for me ..
[07:21] <ludwig__> yeah, it's probably sony's ulterior motive to keep linux only as a hobby
[07:22] <ludwig__> if they only opened it up
[07:22] <Socialoutcast> well all other OS dont have direct access to the hardware it's gay
[07:22] <physically_fit> Cheeky, install flash 10. it did the trick with my logitech webcam
[07:22] <ludwig__> i'd stop using my PIII desktop
[07:22] <Socialoutcast> they have to go threw some stupid chip to even talk to the rest of the PS3
[07:22] <Cheeky> physically_fit: how do i know wat version of flash i have coz..i did install a bunnch with ubuntu extra stuff package
[07:23] <Socialoutcast> hince the reason it does not work on most distros
[07:23] <Cheeky> dr_willis: http://www.swift-tools.net/Flashcam/  thats the site  i was talking about
[07:23] <tritium> Socialoutcast: watch the language, please, and keep it family-friendly.
[07:23] <marcustomized> u007, im stumped
[07:23] <dr_willis> Cheeky,  i have no intention of ever using a webcam-video chat. :)  unless the grandbaby wants to chat to grandpa someday...
[07:23] <physically_fit> Cheeky, go to this page: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/
[07:23] <ludwig__> it is silly, their business model is flawed because they only perceive linux as a way to increase revenue and not a way to increase market share
[07:24] <Digital_1> When running Ubuntu and Compiz, why does the occasional window seem to "stiick" to the desktop when I try to move it?  Sometimes it will even start "shaking" in place.  Is that a Compiz settings?
[07:24] <Socialoutcast> ludwig: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/6406-rndc-connect-failed-connection-refused.html
[07:24] <Cheeky> physically_fit: i have this version .. : 9,0,124,0 installed ....
[07:24] <Socialoutcast> that may give you some help
[07:24] <ludwig__> TIA
[07:24] <dr_willis> Digital_1,  sounds like the 'wobbly windows' setting.. i always turn it off.
[07:24] <Cheeky> physically_fit: how do i get flash 10 .. alone through apt-get ?
[07:24] <Socialoutcast> do u have Bind listening on the correct int?
[07:24] <bullgard4> After restarting my T42 IBM laptop computer top indicates that Xorg consumes 51% of the CPU time. The CPU temperature has risen to 56°C. The fan rotates faster than usual. What might cause such a high CPU load?
[07:25] <Digital_1> That's Dr_Willis.  I think I will give that a try.
[07:25] <Digital_1> Thanks I mean.
[07:25] <ludwig__> lemme check.. i think i may have remarked it in named.conf.. i think i had that line in named.conf.local
[07:25] <owen1> i can't seem to open port 22 on my router. this site shows it's closed - https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[07:26] <jim_p> bullgard4: loads of stuff. it happened to me once because of a bad written gtk theme!!! does your cpu usage reach 100%?
[07:26] <marcustomized> owen, your isp is probably blocking it
[07:26] <jim_p> wgar is the other alternative for adobe's flash player? gnash and...?
[07:26] <Socialoutcast> mmm good ol ISP port blocks
[07:27] <bullgard4> jim_p: My CPU usage does not reach 100%, at least not during the last hour.
[07:27] <Socialoutcast> damn verizon blocking 80
[07:27] <marcustomized> lol, really?
[07:27] <Socialoutcast> yup
[07:27] <marcustomized> wow
[07:27] <volante> if i'm on amd64 architecture, can i still download and install the i386 distribution?
[07:27] <ludwig__> hmm
[07:27] <ludwig__> seems like i don't have rndc.conf
[07:27] <haydnc> volante: yes, it'll work just fine
[07:28] <Socialoutcast> so my apache servers and oracle backend are useless
[07:28] <jim_p> bullgard4: install htop and check what process uses the most cpu power (sort them by cpu%). you can use sgnome-system monitor too
[07:28] <ludwig__> is this a default file found after a sudo apt-get install bind9?
[07:28] <Socialoutcast> should be
[07:28] <Socialoutcast> no rndc.conf = no rndc connection lol
[07:28] <volante> ok. i was thinking of running 32 bit to avoid issues with 64bit like needing to run nspluginwrapper for flash.  does that seem reasonable or would you recommend going with 64 bit?
[07:29] <ludwig__> i guess i could create it.. is it in etc or in bind directories?
[07:29] <marcustomized> volante, as long as u dont mix between 32 bit and 64 bit pkgs
[07:29] <Socialoutcast> I would say if u need more than 4 gigs of ram go 64
[07:29] <ludwig__> etc
[07:29] <haydnc> I'm running the i386 version on AMD64 - have been since I first started with Ubuntu because back then the 64bit variety wasn't working so well
[07:29] <Socialoutcast> lol I dont recal
[07:29] <ludwig__> wow, i can't believe it doesn't exist by default
[07:29] <haydnc> now I believe it's largely up to you
[07:29] <ludwig__> i man'd rndc
[07:29] <volante> yep
[07:29] <volante> also google gears not on 64 bit
[07:29] <ludwig__> /etc/rndc.conf
[07:30] <volante> and several other things ive come across, make me want to just use 32 bit if possible
[07:30] <Socialoutcast> ya I have heard of that happening on the rare ocasion
[07:30] <Socialoutcast> happend on a BSD I was working with a long time ago
[07:30] <Socialoutcast> was very odd
[07:30] <owen1> how to port forward on my router?
[07:30] <tritium> !enter | Socialoutcast
[07:30] <haydnc> unless you've got something in your machine that would make running 64 bit necessary, like an insanely large amount of RAM, you might as well run 32 bit then
[07:30] <tritium> owen1: that depends on your router.
[07:30] <marcustomized> there r no cons to running 32bit unless u have over 3 gigs of ram
[07:31] <volante> ok cool
[07:31] <dr_willis> err.. 4 gb of ram..
[07:31] <ludwig__> is that a 32bit limit (3 gigs of ram)
[07:31] <owen1> tritium: i have netgear and i follow this guide - http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101145.asp#RP614Anchor
[07:31] <tritium> owen1: good
[07:31] <dr_willis> and dependign on the hardware  32bit disrto might be able to use most all of the 4gb.
[07:31] <criso> 2 gigs is the usual limit
[07:31] <ludwig__> do ou really have to use 64 bit to use > 3 gb
[07:31] <[Solaris]> ludwig__ that microsofts limit
[07:31] <haydnc> I thought 32bit could handle 4GB RAM?
[07:31] <Socialoutcast> well most 32 bi OS have a address space of only 4 gigs that for everything on your box including ram
[07:31] <jim_p> ludwig__: to see more than 4GB
[07:31] <owen1> tritium: but when checking which ports are open it shows 22 as closed - https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[07:31] <marcustomized> the 32bit limit is like just under 4 gigs max, including your video ram
[07:32] <Ayabara> anyone with a Dell laptop sold with Ubuntu here?
[07:32] <owen1> tritium: even though i opened it!
[07:32] <criso> pae allows more than 4GiB
[07:32] <bullgard4> jim_p: I started htop and sorted processes by CPU%. On top is seen (apart from /sbin/init) dictd 1.10.10: 0/0 with CPU%= 0.0. But still htop shows CPU64% at this moment.
[07:32] <Cheeky> hey could anyone help me iam kind .. confused .. iam trying to install flash 10 and i have flash v 9... i did a search flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic so i can uninstall it so i can install flash 10 but in synaptic it looks like i diont have that plug in and needs to be installed its also v 9..  but when i went to the flash site it says i have flash 9..
[07:32] <ziroday> Ayabara: what is your problem?
[07:32] <bullgard4> jim_p: I started htop and sorted processes by CPU%. On top is seen (apart from /sbin/init) dictd 1.10.10: 0/0 with CPU%= 0.0. But still htop shows CPU=64% at this moment.
[07:32] <ludwig__> what's the 64 bit limit
[07:32] <volante> ok and what about debian vs ubuntu. would ubuntu be a better choice for a desktop system?
[07:32] <outbackwifi> hello
[07:32] <Socialoutcast> 128 or somehting like that
[07:32] <outbackwifi> !best
[07:33] <dr_willis> volante,  i perer ubuntu for my desktop/laptop and fileservers :)
[07:33] <jim_p> ludwig__: theoritically its 2^64 bytes. practically it depends on the os kernel
[07:33] <[Solaris]> another thing about x86 64 linux distros... adobe flash player doesn't work
[07:33] <Cheeky> physically_fit: hey man how did you install your flash 10 .. did you do it over flash 9 ?
[07:33] <bullgard4> jim_p: This morning I dist-updated the dict DEB program package.
[07:33] <jim_p> 2^64 is roughly nubler 16 followed by 18 zeroes
[07:34] <Socialoutcast> any luck ludwig?
[07:34] <physically_fit> Cheeky, follow these instructions: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.html#install
[07:34] <jim_p> *number
[07:34] <Ayabara> ziroday, my xps m1530 has a stac 9228 audio codec, and the output power is way lower than in windows. it's reported a bug on it in alsa, that more people have confirmed. Since Dell now sells m1530 with Ubuntu, I figured there maybe are som dellpackages/patches that can solve the problem
[07:34] <marcustomized> adobe pr0n player
[07:34] <haydnc> [Solaris]: isn't there some way to get Flash running on 64bit Ubuntu? or at least something that can play flash?
[07:34] <ludwig__> about to restart
[07:34] <jim_p> i remake my question now
[07:34] <[Solaris]> haydnc not that i am aware of atm
[07:34] <marcustomized> haydric, try gnash
[07:35] <ziroday> Ayabara: you might be best to ask in the ubuntuforums ubuntu dell section
[07:35] <phoenix_tiggers> anyone know basic BASH?
[07:35] <BAMH1> Hello everyone! I have been experiencing difficulties installing linux via the 64 bit CD. Whilst I can view the live ubuntu without difficulty, installation unfailingly causes the computer to freeze completely or reboot immediately at around 25% (copying of files, after the successful formatting of the harddrive).
[07:35] <ziroday> phoenix_tiggers: what is your question. Also see #bash
[07:35] <ludwig__> ok it failed again
[07:35] <jim_p> what is the other alternative of flash player? gnash and...?
[07:35] <ludwig__> but.. new errors
[07:35] <BAMH1> I really want ubuntu. Is there another method of installation to try?
[07:35] <Socialoutcast> lol
[07:35] <ziroday> jim_p: swfdec
[07:35] <Cheeky> physically_fit: wats linux rpm?
[07:35] <ziroday> BAMH1: you can try the alternate cd
[07:35] <jim_p> bullgard4: what programs do you run now?
[07:35] <volante> ok.. and for a new installation on desktop, shall i go for 8.10 or 8.04.. is it easy to upgrade to 8.10 from 8.04 when it gets oficially released?
[07:35] <phoenix_tiggers> I'm in #bash, but my question is how do I do a basic logical OR, this is the statement I'm evaluating  :  if [ "$knl" = "2.6.24-19-generic" ||  "<IP_ADDRESS>CIT-3-1-06-SMP" ]
[07:35] <Ayabara> ziroday, ok
[07:36] <BAMH1> I have already tried the alternative CD on the website and it hasn't worked either sadly.
[07:36] <[Solaris]> volante stay with 8.04
[07:36] <haydnc> thanks marcustomized, I'm thinking of running a copy of 64bit Ubuntu along side my existing 32bit version to see how it goes - I'll give gnash a try and see how it handles things like youtube :)
[07:36] <jim_p> ziroday: thanks
[07:36] <corden> hello guys are you experiencing an internet problem after upgrading your 8.04?
[07:36] <bullgard4> jim_p: 6 gnome-terminals and firefox 3.
[07:36] <ziroday> BAMH1: does the alternate cd give any errors? Where does it stop?
[07:36] <[Solaris]> !ubuntu+1
[07:36] <physically_fit> Cheeky, i dunno, i used the other option: i deleted the libflashplayer.so binary first and then i installed flash 10
[07:37] <haydnc> volante: 8.10 isn't officially released until the end of this month, you're probably much better off sticking to 8.04 until then. The upgrade path should be pretty easy
[07:37] <jim_p> bullgard4: just in case, what theme are you using?
[07:37] <BAMH1> It does give an error, yes. Umm... IIRC it copies a bunch of files but gets to the kernel and chokes.
[07:37] <Cheeky> physically_fit: how did you delete it ..did you do it through terminal .. or snyaptic or some otherway ?
[07:37] <tritium> corden: 8.04 has been out since April.  Most users have already upgraded successfully with no such problems.
[07:37] <u007-2> marcustomized, if fsck with -b failed, what else can i try?
[07:37] <bullgard4> jim_p: 'Glossy'
[07:37] <volante> cool thanks for all the advice
[07:38] <u007-2> marcustomized, fsck -b on recovery mode says the device is bz :(
[07:38] <volante> i'll install 32 bit 8.04
[07:38] <BAMH1> And then it tells me that the core installation has failed.
[07:38] <ziroday> BAMH1: unfortunatly to help you we need more information, could you please use the alternate cd again and record the error
[07:38] <jim_p> bullgard4: no connection to my useless theme that cause it. do you use proper drivers for your vga?
[07:38] <Canti> what is the easiest way to create a custom livecd with some applications that need to be installed for source?
[07:38] <BAMH1> Okay. I will certainly do that!
[07:38] <marcustomized> fsck -b?
[07:38] <BAMH1> But before I do -
[07:38] <jim_p> !remaster | Canti
[07:38] <BAMH1> Are the CDs the only way to install Ubuntu?
[07:38] <marcustomized> oic
[07:38] <Socialoutcast> whats the default Ubunto root pass?
[07:38] <physically_fit> Cheeky, i used nautilus (the file browser). went to /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugins
[07:39] <ziroday> !install | BAMH1
[07:39] <ludwig__> ok, in var/log/dameon.log, i discovered.  /etc/bind/rndc.ke: permission denied
[07:39] <Socialoutcast> it never asked me to set one up
[07:39] <ludwig__> googling
[07:39] <tritium> Socialoutcast: the root account is disabled by default.  Use sudo instead.
[07:39] <jim_p> !root | Socialoutcast
[07:39] <[Solaris]> !toot | Socialoutcast
[07:39] <Socialoutcast> cool
[07:39] <ludwig__> no root passwd with ubuntu
[07:39] <BAMH1> Thank you all.
[07:39] <[Solaris]> heh ops
[07:39] <corden> i upgrade my system and boot-up again my internet connection is keep on connecting
[07:39] <corden> my internet connection is only irc and torrent
[07:39] <corden> i cant connect any software that connects to the internet
[07:39] <u007-2> marcustomized, ... someone should seriously fix this issue.. it sux :(
[07:39] <bullgard4> jim_p: I am using the drivers fpr my vga that ubuntu installed by default on my IBM Thinkpad T42. And I had no reason to complain so far. I can name them to you.
[07:39] <corden> here's another situation after logging in there's a small window appeared and disappered immediatly
[07:39] <jim_p> bullgard4: is it ati?
[07:39] <cassio0101> the ubuntu don't have root password
[07:39] <tritium> [Solaris]: careful with that word.  It'll trigger us.
[07:39] <ludwig__> the user you created in the install has sudo power
[07:40] <marcustomized> u007, i honestly don't know
[07:40] <corden> it is possible that it's a virus?
[07:40] <marcustomized> i've never had an  issue like yours
[07:40] <[Solaris]> tritium huh?
[07:40] <physically_fit> Cheeky, here is the tar.gz file you need to download: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[07:40] <tritium> [Solaris]: it'll call the channel operators
[07:40] <cassio0101> use the sudo with your password
[07:40] <[Solaris]> oh heh sorry forgotten about that
[07:40] <ludwig__> if you want to do something root"ish", use sudo
[07:40] <dr_willis> cassio0101,  direct logging in as root is disabled basically
[07:40] <ludwig__> man sudo
[07:40] <tritium> [Solaris]: I think you meant "oops" anyway, not the other ;)
[07:40] <Socialoutcast> ok well I need to head out the pregnant wife just woke up good luck Lud
[07:41] <[Solaris]> sometimes they need to waken up :p
[07:41] <ludwig__> for the manual
[07:41] <ludwig__> thanks man
[07:41] <bullgard4> jim_p: The wrapper is ati_drv.so. I wraps around radeon_drv.so or radeon.ko.
[07:41] <u007-2> marcustomized, okay, thanks man :)
[07:41] <tritium> Socialoutcast: sudo -i, if you want a root shell
[07:41] <ludwig__> good luck with the wife
[07:41] <ludwig__> mine's sleeping as is my son
[07:41] <jim_p> bullgard4: you used ndiswraper?
[07:41] <bullgard4> jim_p: No.
[07:43] <corden> i can't surf because my internet is kept on connecting
[07:43] <corden> i wonder. i can connect to irc and torrent
[07:43] <corden> also my torrent is kept is disconnecting
[07:43] <corden> this happen after i update my system
[07:43] <FloodBot1> corden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:43] <corden> does anyone experiencing this one?
[07:43] <Cheeky> physically_fit: thnks
[07:43] <t1n0m3n> how do I restart the xserver from a command line?  I cant seem to find the command via google, all I get is the "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" way to restart the server
[07:44] <corden> ops sorry i'm just explaining my case
[07:44] <zilot>  /j #ubuntu-ru
[07:44] <ziroday> t1n0m3n: you can do /etc/init.d/x11-common stop IIRC
[07:44] <jim_p> bullgard4: so you have an ati. which one is it and what drivers did you install for it?
[07:44] <dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  restart the gdm service - is one way
[07:45] <cyzie> hi, how do i know the package is from which repo ?
[07:45] <t1n0m3n> I am trying to make a custom command in gdm to make it restart... thanks for the info
[07:45] <bullgard4> jim_p: I told you before: It is ati_drv.so. And This driver is a wrapper.
[07:46] <jim_p> bullgard4: what does it mean? isnt fglrx the one for you?
[07:46] <bullgard4> cyzie: Consult packages.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <ziroday> t1n0m3n: sorry to restart is /etc/init.d/x11-common restart or you can try restarting gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:46] <corden> hope somebody can help with this one
[07:46] <corden> by the way FloodBot1 - can't open that site since my internet connection is kept on connecting
[07:47] <corden> and that's my problem - cannot establish the connection after the update :(
[07:47] <dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  Hmm.. check the gdm config files. I recall ages ago there being a extras menu, that had things like  shutdown, reboot, and even a 'restart x server' option.
[07:47] <dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  theres also a 'always restart x server' option. that works around some X bugs
[07:47] <t1n0m3n> dr_willis:  ahh, ok that would be better, thanks
[07:47] <bullgard4> jim_p: The ATI driver  ati_drv.so does not drive the screen directly but calls another driver. I do not use fglrx.
[07:47] <corden> i can't even access my localhost
[07:48] <outbackwifi> corden: what does ifconfig tell you?
[07:48] <dr_willis> t1n0m3n,  i even recall at one time on some disrto.. you could run the gdm config/theme tool from the gdm screen.. but i dont think that was in ubuntu
[07:49] <jim_p> bullgard4: oh. then i cant help you. here is something you may want to read
[07:49] <jim_p> bullgard4: http://horizon.ath.cx/gentoo/
[07:50] <bullgard4> jim_p: Thank you for providing this link.
[07:50] <znik> how can i upgrade to 8.04.1 from gutsy thru the CD? i dont want to lose my previous files!
[07:50] <corden> outbackwifi, ifconfig give me my localhost ip
[07:50] <corden> but my internet connecting is kept on reconnecting the internet
[07:50] <corden> that's why my firefox can't open the localhost and any websites :(
[07:50] <corden> it been 2 hours now, after the update.
[07:50] <jim_p> bullgard4: you are welcome
[07:50] <FloodBot1> corden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <corden> i observed a window that popup after logging in and gone after a second.
[07:50] <winnipegm> im running newest ubuntu and smb4k but when i view my network on windows my ubuntu folders dont show up on the network is there sumthing i need to do?
[07:51] <speedhunt3r> hey can i use clamtk to scan a windows drive mounted on the network? it's usually under /home/user/.gvfs/ but when i try recursive scan it doesn't initiate...
[07:51] <outbackwifi> corden: what did you update?
[07:51] <Rat409> !swat | winnipegm
[07:51] <corden> outbackwifi, the repository and the available update in the notifier
[07:52] <bustaplz> I noticed that after installing Samba on my Ubuntu box I could see a shared PDF printer on my Vista machine. I'd really like to be able to use this but when I tried to print with it Vista wants me to install a driver. Anyone know what machine would need the drivers installed and which drivers?
[07:53] <Ayabara> When Dell sells laptops with Ubuntu, do they have a custom iso (and is there a place I can get it?)
[07:53] <CanadianLinux> Looking for some help. I play Nexuiz in Ubuntu, My computer has been shutting down on me at random times when playing the game. I opened htop and it says the game is running at 100% CPU usage. I have no idea why
[07:53] <winnipegm> thank you ubottu
[07:53] <Flannel> Ayabara: I believe they do, and you'd have to ask them for the location or how else you'd get it
[07:54] <znik> how can i upgrade to 8.04.1 from gutsy thru the CD? i dont want to lose my previous files
[07:54] <Flannel> znik: Do you have an alternate CD? or the Desktop CD
[07:54] <fr500_> CanadianLinux: the game using cpu 100% is normal
[07:54] <corden> by the way outbackwifi is the dns of opendns usable?
[07:54] <corden> maybe i will manually input there dns address.
[07:54] <fr500_> CanadianLinux: laptop?
[07:54] <CanadianLinux> no destop
[07:54] <corden> outbackwifi, my main problem is that inet cannot establish connection.
[07:54] <fr500_> probably overheating
[07:54] <fr500_> CanadianLinux: or dying PSU
[07:54] <jim_p> znik: doenload the alternative installation cd and use it as a update source
[07:55] <Cheeky> physically_fit: hey you got a min ?
[07:55] <CanadianLinux> Maybe the PSU
[07:55] <znik> Flannel i have the desktop cd from canonical
[07:55] <physically_fit> yes Cheeky
[07:55] <CanadianLinux> hardware monitor says its not overheating
[07:55] <Flannel> znik: You'll need the alternate CD to upgrade
[07:55] <Flannel> !upgrade | znik
[07:55] <Flannel> znik: Or, just download the packages from the internet, of course.
[07:55] <jim_p> !pae
[07:55] <CanadianLinux> fr500_, so there is no issue with the game running at 100 cpu
[07:56] <CanadianLinux> I do have a dual core processor
[07:56] <fr500_> no issue
[07:56] <CanadianLinux> Sometimes I can play for hours
[07:56] <fr500_> games tax processors a lot
[07:56] <Cheeky> physically_fit: iam running the installer though terminal and it prompts me for my installation path but when i give the path way i get this error WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[07:56] <CanadianLinux> sometimes minutes
[07:56] <kylekruchok> Hrm....
[07:56] <znik> Flannel i dont have a fast net connection so iwouldnt it be better if i use the desktop cd i got from canonical?
[07:56] <Cheeky> physically_fit: i used this path /home/cheeky/.mozilla
[07:57] <Ujjwol> hey
[07:57] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: hey
[07:57] <corden> outbackwifi, can you give me the DNS of opendns? i'll try to use it. since i can't surf. tnx
[07:58] <hml> is there a way to update from 8.04 to 8.10 update beta w/o burning a cd ? (none on hand); can i do an apt-get [some type of magic here] ?
[07:58] <Ujjwol> how to use yum instead of apt-get in ubuntu hatdy
[07:58] <Canti> !livecd | canti
[07:58] <Cheeky> physically_fit: says its not a directory ?
[07:58] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: dont know about yum but alien lets you use rpms
[07:58] <outbackwifi> !alien
[07:58] <physically_fit> Cheeky, it didn't ask me for a path. did you open the tar.gz file?
[07:59] <Ujjwol> yum also can use debain packages
[08:00] <Cheeky> physically_fit: iam just running it it right now in my tmp directory is that a problem?
[08:00] <jim_p> has anyone ever used blackbox as a wm? how does it minimise the windows?
[08:00] <speedhunt3r> hey can i use clamtk to scan a windows drive mounted on the network? it's usually under /home/user/.gvfs/ but when i try recursive scan it doesn't initiate...
[08:01] <outbackwifi> !repeat | speedhunt3r
[08:01] <ludwig__> anyone here use rndc-confgen before
[08:01] <Ujjwol> hey is there any open-source nVidia Driver
[08:01] <Ujjwol> for ubuntu
[08:01] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: nv
[08:01] <corden> by the way guys how to install clam-win?
[08:01] <corden> ok i sarch it at the repo :)
[08:02] <Ujjwol> outbackwifi: nv means
[08:02] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: nvidia driver
[08:02] <Ujjwol> is that open-source
[08:02] <Lul2x> Hi. I would like to set up a web server to host my own blog and also use this server to host files that I can access from other computers on my network. I know I can do the latter with Ubuntu Desktop version, but I was wondering if I would be better-off going with the Server version for my needs. What is the main difference between these two? Thanks!
[08:02] <marcustomized> yes
[08:03] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: yes
[08:03] <physically_fit> Cheeky, then you have to run ./flashplayer-installer from that folder
[08:03] <Ujjwol> it is returned proprietary in nVidia's site
[08:03] <Tidus> Lul2x: the main difference between the two is simply the last part of the install, where it runs the debian "tasksel" command
[08:03] <jim_p> Lul2x: desktop setup will get you to a full desktop, server setup will get you to command line only and you ahve to install the rest
[08:03] <outbackwifi> Lul2x: the server version does not come with a graphical interface
[08:03] <Ujjwol> ok
[08:03] <Tidus> otherwise they're the same distro
[08:03] <Ujjwol> how to install Kde 4.1 in ubuntu hardy
[08:04] <Cheeky> physically_fit: yeah the installer works..and its asking me to give it a path
[08:04] <jim_p> Lul2x: for the rest of the questions, look at how you can make an http server
[08:04] <Lul2x> thanks guys. So I can still successfully run my blog from Ubuntu Desktop? I will need php, mysql, and a few other things. The elimination of the "tasksel" command in the Desktop version won't prevent this?
[08:05] <Cheeky> physically_fit: it asks me this Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[08:05] <Cheeky> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[08:05] <Lul2x> jim_p: ok, I'll take a look
[08:05] <znik> jim_p cant i use my live cd like an alternate cd?
[08:05] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: i guess installing kde-base should do the trick
[08:05] <Tidus> Lul2x: tasksel is simply what's run at the end of the alternate or server install cd
[08:05] <Ujjwol> ok
[08:05] <jim_p> znik: depends on what you want to do
[08:05] <Lul2x> I am making a transfer from Gentoo, which has been on my server for a couple of years now and I have become a bit rusty with Linux in the meantime
[08:06] <Ujjwol> i am looking to buy Dell XPS m1530 with ubuntu and does the wi-fi and webcam works well in ubuntu
[08:06] <znik> jim_p i want to upgrade my gutsy to 8.04.1
[08:06] <Lul2x> I appreciate the advice!'
[08:06]  * outbackwifi thinks tasksel has  Lul2x confused
[08:06] <criso> Tidus, in other words after running aptitude, they are exactly the same..
[08:06] <outbackwifi> Ujjwol: yes
[08:06] <Lul2x> a bit, but I can use google to find out exactly what it does :)
[08:07] <criso> Lul2x, just install whatever you have
[08:07] <criso> apt has magical online repositories that will work to install whatever you want
[08:07] <criso> unless this is an offline webserver :/
[08:07] <Flannel> !lamp | Lul2x
[08:07] <Lul2x> nope, it'll be online
[08:07] <Ujjwol> what is messenger to use the video call
[08:07] <Tidus> criso: yes, basically
[08:07] <criso> Lul2x, just install with the CD you have and go from there
[08:08] <nxmehta> just started working with ubuntu server- does ubuntu not use inetd?  what's the ubuntu way of dealing with internet services?
[08:08] <Tidus> Lul2x: the server install cd gives you the option to have a pre-configured LAMP server set up, but it's easily doable on the desktop edition as well
[08:08] <Cheeky> physically_fit: does it have to go to the /usr/lib/mozilla  folder ? or the mozilla folder thats hidden in your /home/user directory ?
[08:08] <Tidus> nxmehta: i think it uses xinetd
[08:08] <outbackwifi> nxmehta: xinetd
[08:08] <jim_p> znik: if you can add it as a cd rom source, then yes. i dont know if the "nature" of the cd allows it to be added that way. anyway, with the cd rom in the drive run    sudo apt-cdrom add
[08:08] <Lul2x> ok, cool. This is incredible, you guys are so much help. I'm used to the old-school linux rooms where noone is willing to help--only show their superiority by not helping at all :P
[08:09] <physically_fit> Cheeky, did you delete the libflashplayer.so that was in your home/mozilla directory?
[08:09] <Lul2x> Thank Tidus. It would be nice to have the desktop gui and then install LAMP after. The server won't be hardcore, so this way I get the best of both worlds :)
[08:09] <znik> jim_p would u join me in an IM?
[08:09] <Cheeky> physically_fit: yes i did
[08:09] <nxmehta> ok, xinetd... looks like it's not installed by default on ubuntu server 8.04?  i have to apt-get it...
[08:10] <physically_fit> Cheeky, if so, then give that path (i never got that question though)
[08:10] <Cheeky> physically_fit: i went to /home/cheeky / .mozilla / plugin and deleted it
[08:10] <physically_fit> k
[08:10] <Tidus> Lul2x: see, i hate the old-school linux rooms that did that.  it does nothing to advance the open source world
[08:10] <Lul2x> oh, one last thing. is the home directory still the same style? E.g. /home/pat  (I ask b/c I'm afraid some file links may fail when I transfer my server files)
[08:10] <outbackwifi> Lul2x: yes
[08:11] <Tidus> Lul2x: yes, it's the same style.  that's a LSB standard (Linux Standard Base) which ubuntu loosely adheres to
[08:11] <Lul2x> thought so, just wanted to double-check
[08:11] <Lul2x> thanks a ton, I'm going to start downloading :D
[08:11] <criso> basically ubuntu doesn't put in enough effort (microsoft..) to come up with crazy ways to breaks everything
[08:12] <Tidus> lol... MS releases a patch to fix what they broke in the last patch
[08:12] <outbackwifi> Lul2x: you might want to install any version that says LTS (long Term Support)
[08:13] <Lul2x> ok, I'll take a look outbackwifi
[08:13] <Lul2x> 8.04 looks good (support until 2011)  :)
[08:14] <outbackwifi> right
[08:14] <criso> is intrepid an installable release yet?
[08:14] <criso> or rather, is it "installable"
[08:14] <joebob777as7> Can someone help me get my nvidia working? Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1218767 and tail of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1218768
[08:14] <f4r> ..
[08:15] <roukoun> !sdb
[08:15] <roukoun> !sda
[08:15] <jamesish> sda is the first sata hard drive.
[08:15] <jamesish> sdb the second.
[08:15] <criso> I'm thinking that intrepid is like debian experimental? (they fear it and don't want anyone to install from those packages)
[08:16] <bullgard4> What fonts are collected in /usr/share/consolefonts?
[08:16] <paedrigh> i need to make two vfat disks read and writable for everyone in fstab, can't change permissions in nautilus. Help appreciated.
[08:16] <criso> because I didnt see an 'experimental' repository for ubuntu
[08:16] <outbackwifi> joebob777as7: client 4 rejected from local host is the prob; not nvidia
[08:16] <paul68> can someone help me with sorting mails in thunderbird
[08:16] <outbackwifi> joebob777as7: are you trying to login from remote
[08:16] <frybye> criso - it is beta now  - only the final release will be classed as stable...
[08:16] <roukoun> jamesish: i want to find out what is every device under /dev!
[08:16] <joebob777as7> outbackwifi, no
[08:17] <roukoun> jamesish: do you know any tutor or guide or something like this?
[08:17] <criso> frybye, can I
[08:17] <frybye> sorry.. disregard that - I was in the wrong channel...
[08:17] <criso> update or upgrade to it?
[08:17] <outbackwifi> joebob777as7: though this is dangerous, type xhost + on a comand line and then try to login
[08:18] <frybye> or - never mind - intrepid stuff is in #ubuntu+1
[08:18] <joebob777as7> outbackwifi, dangerous?
[08:18] <Decepticon> !release date
[08:18] <joebob777as7> I have vesa video at 640x480
[08:18] <marcustomized> joebob, your xorg looks really weird,...
[08:18] <Decepticon> !schedule
[08:18] <paul68> join /ubuntu+1
[08:18] <frybye> criso - a full new install is nearly always better imho - back up your pers. data first...
[08:18] <paul68> oeps
[08:18] <outbackwifi> joebob777as7: dangerous as in allowing anyne to connect
[08:18] <marcustomized> did they change they xorg.conf setup in the newest version?
[08:18] <Decepticon> when is it going to be released?
[08:19] <marcustomized> joebob, is this for a laptop?
[08:20] <DaveKong> is there a way to have your password emailed to you if you forget it?
[08:20] <ubuntu> #spite
[08:20] <ompaul> DaveKong, for ?
[08:20] <DaveKong> freenode
[08:21] <joebob777as7> outbackwifi, just gave me unable to open display "" then when I start gdm again I get the same errors: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module (EE) Screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration
[08:21] <bullgard4> paedrigh: You can change permissions in fstab using sudo gedit.
[08:21] <DaveKong> ompaul your nick ident password
[08:21] <Ayabara> Flannel, if someone here knew where it was to be found, that would be a way :-)
[08:21] <ompaul> DaveKong, go to #freenode and say you want a password reset, if you have an email address set up they can help if you have not then they can't
[08:21] <Ayabara> if they have put it out for downloading, that is
[08:22] <ykphuah> can I prevent ubuntu from opening rhythmbox everytime I insert a CD? it also pauses whatever I am playing in the background.
[08:22] <Pramod> I am currently on Failsafe Gnome
[08:22] <Cheeky> physically_fit: hey man .. it got it to work thnks for the help
[08:22] <Pramod> when i log on to the normal Gnome, the panels do not load... only ctrl-alt-delete works...
[08:22] <Flannel> Ayabara: You'd have to ask dell.
[08:23] <Pramod> i cannot even right-click...
[08:23] <joebob777as7> outbackwifi, any ideas on why it can't load the module? running beta
[08:23] <Pramod> can anyone please help me out?
[08:23] <paul68> is there a good althernative for edit++ underlinux especially for php purposes?
[08:24] <Flannel> paul68: try SciTE
[08:24] <icedwater> How do I create a shared folder visible to Mac hosts on the same wired network?
[08:24] <criso> paul68, try editplus3 under wine
[08:24] <paul68> can i get this through synaptic?
[08:24] <criso> seriously :)
[08:25] <criso> package is called "scite"
[08:25] <criso> (maybe)
[08:25] <Flannel> !info scite
[08:25] <paul68> thanks
[08:25] <criso> but editplus runs very nicely under wine
[08:25] <criso> you'd be surprised
[08:26] <criso> I actually use it to multifile search
[08:26] <Pramod> My penls do not load on startup...
[08:26] <Pramod> Panels***
[08:26] <Pramod> My Panels do not load on startup...
[08:26] <Flannel> criso: scite can do that too (and so can a bunch of others)
[08:26] <paul68> criso I can imagine however I'm still exploring the world of ubuntu and I'm not familiar with wine yet
[08:27] <criso> there is a special affinity of people to editplus
[08:27] <paul68> use still dualboot since I need to some ms applications
[08:27] <criso> similar but no equal to bbedit
[08:27] <criso> paul68, what apps do you need on windows?
[08:27] <Flannel> paul68: SciTE is available on windows too, so you can consolidate
[08:28] <bullgard4> What fonts are collected in /usr/share/consolefonts?
[08:28] <subdolus> Hi guys, I've been playing with trying to get a second monitor cranking on the secondary output on my Eee (using ubuntu-eee). At the moment it just clones the other dektop, but I want it to send particular windows on to the second monitor. Any ideas? I've tried editing xorg.conf but it is earily barron.. so the GDM must use other configs, is this right? help!
[08:28] <paul68> criso on windows fort the moment cs3 and office2007 since I have to run support on it at work
[08:29] <paul68> that's the main reason that I don't switch completly to linux just yet
[08:29] <criso> paul68, do you need cs3 for any professional print work?
[08:30] <joebob777as7> paul68, same for me with cs3 and lightroom unfortunately but luckily I can run them both in a vm with VirtualBox
[08:30] <criso> I'd go ahead and try to learn gimp and try to use (ugh) openoffice
[08:30] <joebob777as7> don't bother with gimp there is no alternative to photoshop CS3
[08:30] <criso> also look into crossover or bordeauxgroup.com
[08:31] <criso> joebob777as7, are you sure?
[08:31] <paul68> Well the cs3 I mainly use for creating pdf's since I'm not familiar with a program that does this under linux
[08:31] <criso> the main objection I've heard is cmyk in gimp
[08:31] <joebob777as7> closest would be pixel criso
[08:31] <outbackwifi> subdolus: try xinerama
[08:31] <paul68> but use from time to time photoshop and illustrater to
[08:32] <joebob777as7> paul68, good illustrator alternative would be inkscape
[08:32] <criso> I didn't even know cs3 was good for making pdfs..
[08:32] <joebob777as7> criso, in combo with acrobat pro there is no competition
[08:33] <paul68> criso in the complete cs3 pqckage you have adobe acrobat professional who does this perfectly
[08:33] <joebob777as7> I've never found a linux app that can do as good with compression and whites as acrobat pro
[08:33] <criso> yes but what does cs3 do specifically for pdf?
[08:33] <criso> I have acrobat
[08:33] <joebob777as7> I'm talking 20 page forms in under 100KB!
[08:33] <criso> ah...
[08:34] <vinka> hey: i'm having a problem using evolution with my school imap server. everything seems to work fine in a send/receive, but no mail appears in the inbox
[08:34] <paul68> it was in the package of cs3 cracked
[08:34] <joebob777as7> Can someone help me get my nvidia working? Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1218767 and tail of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1218768
[08:34] <paul68> ofcourse because it's to expensive to buy it
[08:35] <joebob777as7> I start gdm and I get the errors: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module (EE) Screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration
[08:35] <jamesish> subdolus: it's an xorg configuration flag. I forget what it's called but googling around for linux dual monitors'll reveal all.
[08:35] <criso> paul68, try cegeda/crossover/bordeauxgroup.com
[08:35] <Flannel> !dualhead | subdolus
[08:35] <vinka> !evolution
[08:35] <criso> paul68, they are better versions of wine
[08:35] <Flannel> paul68: try wine first.  A lot of the stuff that works in the others will work in wine.
[08:36] <paul68> ok thanks criso and flannel bbl
[08:37] <vinka> hey, can anyone help me with setting up evolution?
[08:38] <criso> vinka, wizard didn't do it?
[08:38] <jamesish> vinka: what's the issue? Email clients tend to be pretty self-explanatory.
[08:39] <overrider> can anyone recommend a really good personal finance / accounting sofftware i can run under apache php on my local machine? something like gnucash for the web. thanks
[08:39] <vinka> criso, jamesish - i think i have it set up correctly. nothing complains during a send/receive, i just don't get any mail in my inbox (there's mail on the server)
[08:39] <bullgard4> What fonts are collected in /usr/share/consolefonts?
[08:40] <joebob777as7> overrider, yes there is nolapro
[08:40] <jamesish> If you don't get mail, then it's not set up correctly or your mail server is hosed. Which do you think it is?
[08:41] <criso> vinka, I'm thinking there is a way to see the "debug output" of send/receive
[08:41] <criso> to see if it's the server's fault or what
[08:41] <criso> but I dont remember off hand
[08:42] <bullgard4> packages.ubuntu.com does not find 'setfonds'. What is the Ubuntu replacement for 'setfonds'?
[08:43] <jamesish> setfonds isn't a package.
[08:44] <jamesish> ptfonds ubuntu
[08:44] <jamesish> Um
[08:44] <jamesish> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ey1&q=setfonds+linux&btnG=Search
[08:44] <jamesish> There.
[08:44] <FloodBot1> jamesish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <Daremonai> My ubuntu's crashing, and when it loads again, it sometimes tells me "Kernel panic, wait to kill init!" (or something like that) kernel version is 2.6.24-19-generic
[08:44] <foo> uh, removing firefox also wants to remove firefox firefox-gnome-support gnome-user-guide ubufox ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-docs yelp
[08:44] <foo> right?
[08:45] <foo> I don't think I want to remove all of those
[08:45] <dr_willis> foo why are you removing firefox anyway?
[08:45] <criso> ok
[08:45] <criso> just tell it to install all the ones it wants to remove
[08:45] <criso> in aptitude just type 'i' over those ones
[08:45] <joebob777as7> Can someone help me get my nvidia working? Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1218767 and tail of Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.ca/1218768  I start gdm and I get the errors: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module (EE) Screen(s) found, but non have a usable configuration
[08:46] <foo> dr_willis: I want to install version 3, and I think I Just download, untar, then run ./firefox
[08:46] <bustaplz> and cups-pdf experts?
[08:46] <dr_willis> foo,  what release of ubuntu you using? version 3 is  in the current repos.
[08:46] <bustaplz> any**
[08:46] <criso> firstly you dont need to uninstall that package
[08:46] <criso> or you could pipe dpkg -L firefox into xargs with rm :)
[08:47] <dr_willis> It would be 'best' if installing manually - to install it for a specific user..  i guessing..
[08:47] <vinka> criso, do you know how?
[08:47] <Flannel> criso: Thatd.... be bad.  Please don't suggest things like that here.  Ever.
[08:47] <criso> vinka, I'm looking but I didnt have pop3 set up atm
[08:47] <criso> Flannel, bad?
[08:47] <marcustomized> joebobjoebob, i tried writing you a new xorg.conf here http://pastebin.ca/1218782
[08:47] <foo> dr_willis: I'm on lenny/sid according to debian_version. My source files say gutsy, hmm
[08:47] <marcustomized> backup your current one and try it out
[08:47] <Flannel> foo: lsb_release -a
[08:47] <jamesish> joebob777as7: did you try out things like this (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[08:47] <criso> foo, type dpkg -l firefox
[08:48] <jamesish> Jeez, my pasting sucks today
[08:48] <foo> criso: that's version 2, not what we're looking for, I don't think
[08:48] <jamesish> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213409 things like this, joebob777as7
[08:48] <foo> Flannel: thanks, what does lsb stand for>?
[08:48] <dr_willis> !firefox
[08:48] <Flannel> foo: linux standard base
[08:48] <foo> dr_willis: gutsy
[08:48] <foo> Flannel: thanks
[08:48] <vinka> criso: when the send/receive window come up, it seems to be ok. also, i'm using imap
[08:48] <dr_willis> foo,  you may want to upgrade to hardy, I think there was a FF3 packages for  gutsy - but i dont know for sure.
[08:48] <criso> vinka, ah..
[08:49] <dr_willis> !info firefox gutsy
[08:49] <Flannel> foo: gutsy has FF3 beta4 in -backports.  If you wanted to do it yourself, follow the instructions on that firefox new version wiki page.
[08:49] <vinka> criso: ah?
[08:49] <criso> vinka,  you could wireshark it heh
[08:50] <criso> I don't know what imap does but it should give a count of messages on the server
[08:50] <vinka> criso, yeah, then i'll just parse the packets in my head, right?
[08:50] <foo> dr_willis: hm, I'm debating making the move... a little afraid because if this breaks I really don't have the time to fix it / reinstall. Should I just use v2 until I have some time? Or should I upgrade to hardy?
[08:50] <codecowboy> i just deleted a folder by accident from an ntfs formatted drive attached via usb. whats the the best way to try and recover the files?
[08:50] <criso> wireshark can parse imap I think
[08:50] <bustaplz> I'm trying to change the output location of cups-pdf but if I change it from anything but default it stops working completely!
[08:50] <dr_willis> foo,  next release is due out in like 30 days also. :)
[08:50] <vinka> criso: this seems like a non-ideal troubleshooting stage
[08:50] <overrider> joebob777as7, thanks, nolapro looks like a great piece of software. issue is only, it is way too complex for my needs. i would use nolapro for running a small business or so, but for personal home finance, its too much. id love something like grisbi,gnucash or homebank but as an online version. badger is online, but really buggy and not under development for over a year. any other suggestions?
[08:51] <Flannel> foo: You can install v3 locally.  Its really easy.  Or stick with v2.
[08:51] <jamesish> bustaplz: I imagine man cups-pdf or cups-pdf --help will assist some.
[08:51] <foo> dr_willis: hm, I'll just wait
[08:51] <Flannel> foo: Nothing wrong with version 2, that's for sure.
[08:51] <foo> Flannel: yeah, I grabbed the source, unzipped... ran ./firefox ... voila
[08:51] <criso> the problem is that imap can do weird things with archiving messages on the server
[08:51] <joebob777as7> overrider, why online?
[08:51] <bustaplz> I know how to edit and what syntax to use but I cannot make it change
[08:51] <nik_> hi, i am having trouble with DLing patchs for WoW. getting Error #125...anyone know anything about that?
[08:51] <jamesish> overrider: try lessaccounting.com -- it's pretty awesome.
[08:51] <dr_willis> foo,  that wasent really 'source' :) but we get the idea
[08:51] <Flannel> foo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  make sure you didnt miss anything.
[08:52] <foo> dr_willis: ha, that's true, I guess it isn't
[08:52] <bustaplz> if I set it back to ${HOME}/PDF it works fine again, but I want it to go to /home/me/Desktop/Share/PDF, if I try this or ${HOME}/Desktop/Share/PDF it stops functioning
[08:52] <bustaplz> am I mistyping something?
[08:52] <jamesish> bustaplz: use a symlink.
[08:52] <overrider> joebob777as7, dunno, im just looking for something online so i can easily switch platforms and os, have my wife who uses windows use it also and so on. also, my calendar and taskmanager, projectmanager is online, so naturally id like my finance app to be online, even if its in my local lan
[08:52] <overrider> jamesish, ill try, thanks. but i think its hosted only
[08:53] <bustaplz> hmmm
[08:53] <hml> is there an easy way in ubuntu to get BadRAM module, or do I have to follow the insturctionss at help.ubuntu.com/community/BadRAM ?
[08:53] <bustaplz> Could you tell me how to create on for those directories?
[08:53] <bustaplz> I never even considered that!
[08:53] <joebob777as7> overrider, do you have a window or linux server on your lan?
[08:53] <nik_> has anyone got the patches for WoW to work?
[08:53] <overrider> joebob777as7, yeah
[08:54] <msh> I have installed firestarter and I want it to start on each startup how do I do that?
[08:54] <jamesish> bustaplz: man ln, paying attention to the ln -s option. OR right click in Nautilus and choose "create shortcut" or whatever it's called.