[07:52] <mup> PR snapd#12054 opened: many: fix unnecessary use of fmt.Sprintf (S1039) <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12054>
[08:12] <mup> PR snapd#12055 opened: bootloader,systemd: fix `don't use Yoda conditions (ST1017)` <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12055>
[09:12] <mup> PR snapd#12056 opened: snap,store: drop support/consideration for anonymous download urls <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12056>
[09:17] <mup> PR snapd#12051 closed: HACKING.md: extend guidelines with common review comments <Simple 😃> <Documentation> <Skip spread> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12051>
[11:33] <mup> PR snapd#12054 closed: many: fix unnecessary use of fmt.Sprintf (S1039) <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12054>
[11:33] <mup> PR snapd#12055 closed: bootloader,systemd: fix `don't use Yoda conditions (ST1017)` <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12055>
[11:38] <mup> PR snapd#12032 closed: go.mod: replace maze.io/x/crypto with local repo <Created by flotter> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12032>
[12:08] <mup> PR snapd#12053 closed: o/assertstate: don't refresh enforced validation sets during check <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12053>
[13:39] <mup> PR snapd#12042 closed: many: add Is{Core,Classic}Boot() to DeviceContext <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12042>
[13:54] <mup> PR snapd#12057 opened: many: refactor store code to be able to use simpler form of auth creds <snap-revision-delegation> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12057>
[16:45] <mup> PR snapd#12058 opened: overlod: allow seeding in the case of classic with modes system <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12058>


[00:25] <JGalt> Im trying to synchronize the packages between 2 ubuntu server systems.  apt-mark looks like a good way to do this and I found https://simpleit.rocks/linux/replicate-installed-packages but after I run apt-mark on the second machine, then what?  do I not need to update, upgrade, something to actually get the packages to install?
[00:25] <JGalt> ....on the new box?....
[00:25] <Ismael> hola
[00:25] <Ismael> xg
[00:27] <tomreyn> JGalt: the link you posted returns a 404 status for me
[00:29] <tomreyn> JGalt: this can work, assuming you have the same apt sources on both systems: https://serverfault.com/questions/56848/install-the-same-debian-packages-on-another-system
[00:36] <Spaulding> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[00:38] <kaiser> hello, im having trouble getting my bluetooth headphones to work with my sys
[00:38] <Sophira22> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[00:39] <kaiser> i have tried using bluetoothctl and bluedevil and the native gnome client
[00:39] <kaiser> i seem to be able to have success pairing and connecting, but it still doesnt show up as an audio device, also i dont hear any notification from my headphones that they are connected
[00:40] <JGalt> tomreyn: sorry bad link, this should do it https://simpleit.rocks/linux/replicate-installed-package-selections-from-one-ubuntu-system-to-another/
[00:41] <tomreyn> JGalt: found it since, but i think the one i posted is sufficient.
[00:41] <tomreyn> the apt-mark approach seems wrong to me.
[00:43] <tomreyn> JGalt: actually, thinking more about it, you probably want to do both, dpkg selections and apt mark. i didn't read the article as suggesting that you shuld do both, but like it would be alternatives, which is not the case
[00:44] <JGalt> Tomreyn: i know about the method of using dpkg but aparently using dpkg for this fails to track automatically vs manually installed packages which the apt-mark method covered here aparently does track.  I'm confused though as the seemingly better method instructions just seem to end after marking on the new system
[00:45] <tomreyn> JGalt: i just tried to explain that you should first do dpkg selections, then apt mark IMO.
[00:45] <JGalt> ah ok
[00:46] <Bashing-om> JGalt: Might want to consider ' debfoster ' on this use case also .
[00:46] <tomreyn> JGalt: and before you do this, make sure apt sources are the same, and run apt-get update
[00:48] <tomreyn> http://www.fruit.je/debfoster/
[00:54] <Goop> Hey, I want to create a local mirror of the Ubuntu repository. How big is the repository, and how much data's worth is changed each month?
[00:56] <hggdh> Goop: repositories for what versions and flavours of Ubuntu?
[00:58] <Goop> hggdh, excellent question. That really depends on how big they are, and if they can be combined.
[00:58] <Goop> hggdh, lets go with Ubuntu 16.04
[00:59] <hggdh> Goop: I am not really sure, but I would expect 150GB +
[01:01] <hggdh> Goop: I maintain a cache for *packages* (so I only cache the "common" Ubuntu and Kubuntu packages, for 16.04, 18.04, and 18.10. It is currently at 240GB
[01:03] <hggdh> Goop: with the ISOs for 16.04, 18.04, and 18.10 (all flavours, AMD64-only), add 50GB
[01:04] <coldpresent> hey all, how do i copy an entire package, including dependencies and desktop icon, from ubuntu to some other linux distro?
[01:05] <Guest24822> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[01:05] <Goop> hggdh, the repositories are always being added to. How much is added to it by the end of the week?
[01:05] <Goop> My ISP is a jerk and has a data cap.
[01:09] <hggdh> Goop: on 16.04, there about 150 packages updated last week (kernel was updated, so lots of binaries). For the size... IDK. a few GB, probably
[01:09] <hggdh> Goop: I am talking about *source* packages; they may generate more than one binary package
[01:10] <tomreyn> coldpresent: this seems like an incorrect approach you should always use debian package son only those linux distributions they were made for.
[01:10] <Goop> hggdh, are you downloading more than 50GB in a week?
[01:11] <hggdh> Goop: on both package updates and ISO update, no, probably less than 25GB
[01:11] <hggdh> Goop: packages... highball a few GB per week (after the first humongous download of the whole repository)
[01:12] <DimeCadmium> how can i prevent ubuntu from trying to install a package? it keeps trying to install javascript-common as a recommended package and causing the install to fail (presumably because i have a highly customized /etc/apache2)
[01:13] <hggdh> Goop: by "few" I mean something between 1 and 3 GB
[01:13] <coldpresent> tomreyn: this particular package only has debian and centos support, is there absolutely no way i can port it to other distros?
[01:14] <xubuntu18041> hggdh, are you including daily-build iso 's ?
[01:14] <hggdh> xubuntu18041: yes, I am. But I use zsync, and usually this limits the actual download to  about 10% of the ISO
[01:15] <tomreyn> coldpresent: you can build the source package against the target system
[01:15] <Goop> How do I get Asterisk to work on Ubuntu LTS 16.04?
[01:15] <xubuntu18041> hggdh, hehe, my next question :]
[01:17] <tomreyn> DimeCadmium: i dont see how javascript-common would modify any configuration in / below /etc/apache2
[01:17] <coldpresent> tomreyn: also, there are no makefiles in the package, i believe it's proprietary
[01:18] <tomreyn> DimeCadmium: you could paste the output of a failed installation on a poastebin.
[01:18] <DimeCadmium> tomreyn: honestly i havent investigated why, but every time it tries to install it i have to go back and purge it
[01:18] <coldpresent> tomreyn: there's just a bunch of folders and files, i believe it's pre-built
[01:18] <tomreyn> coldpresent: ehich ubuntu package are you talking about?
[01:18] <tomreyn> *which
[01:19] <DimeCadmium> also, its output is 100% unhelpful: https://bpaste.net/show/2393bd62b5c1
[01:19] <DimeCadmium> but when purging: apache2_invoke javascript-common prerm: No action required
[01:20] <coldpresent> tomreyn: its an external proprietary package, not from ubuntu
[01:20] <DimeCadmium> thus leading me to believe that may be the cause. like i said though i don't care why it's failing i just don't want it.
[01:24] <tomreyn> DimeCadmium: rerun the command you ran to create the paste with -o 'Debug::RunScripts'
[01:24] <tomreyn> ...and paste again
[01:25] <tomreyn> coldpresent: so you didnt tell the truth originally? <coldpresent> hey all, how do i copy an entire package, including dependencies and desktop icon, from ubuntu to some other linux distro?
[01:25] <coldpresent> tomreyn: maybe phrasing could be better. the package works on ubuntu because the package is built for debian
[01:26] <tomreyn> coldpresent: well, you're off-topic here.
[01:26] <coldpresent> aight, thanks for your help regardless
[01:30] <tomreyn> DimeCadmium: the fact that it's failing to install may very well point to an underlöying issue, which may affect other packages as well. it's something you should investiage and repair, or else you may end up missing important updates or becoming unable to install some packages.
[01:31] <DimeCadmium> tomreyn: it hasn't affected any other packages so far. if it does, i will find that out and fix it then.
[01:32] <DimeCadmium> frankly, i don't plan on installing any web software that would need to install javascript. in fact, i don't plan on installing any web software. if i were to do that, i would do it manually, because we have a very strange environment for some web software we DO run.
[01:33] <DimeCadmium> thanks for the useless advice without knowing the situation rather than answering my question though.
[01:33] <tomreyn> such a lovely person
[01:38] <sirriffsalothp> I can't remove audacious without removing kxstudio-desktop-kde4, will this render me without a desktop environment if I remove it?
[01:40] <tomreyn> sirriffsalothp: kxstudio-desktop-kde4 is not an ubuntu package
[01:40] <sirriffsalothp> tomreyn: true, but I'm wondering since someone here would probably know anyhow? Asked in kxstudio but no one's home :P
[01:41] <tomreyn> we only support ubuntu here, and happily, once you have it installed, sorry.
[01:45] <anon345> why is chat always dead? is everyone on twitch tv???
[01:56] <tharkun17> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[02:07] <NotSoFastJames> lotusopsychje  i did the uname -a but it is on another ubuntu so it is difficult to print the result of that command here should i just give the linux imag version number here?
[02:07] <NotSoFastJames> lotuspsychje i removed samba alltogether and am now apt-get dist-upgrading
[02:07] <NotSoFastJames> will this get rid of the vulnerable?
[02:10] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: lotusopsychje isn't currently around.do oyu need help with anything?
[02:12] <NotSoFastJames> tomrey yes, please! friend, I am currently experiencing issues with samba, i am running an ubuntu with samba running on it sharing out partitions on the ubuntu onto other devices on the network, one of them being my own main device running ubuntu as well and my gf's windows machine
[02:12] <NotSoFastJames> now after running apt-get upgrade samba ceased working saying "cant start LBS or something"
[02:13] <NotSoFastJames> now coming hear lotuspsychje pointed out that there has been a vulnerability in samba and asking for uname-a
[02:13] <tomreyn> i doubt the message is "cant start LBS or something"
[02:13] <NotSoFastJames> in the meantime i removed samba in order to close the vulnerability and then i did the dist-upgrad and the regular upgrade
[02:13] <NotSoFastJames> tomreyn you are right
[02:14] <NotSoFastJames> both dist-upgrade and upgrade failed to apt-get while samba was still installed
[02:14] <NotSoFastJames> now having upgraded and dist-upgraded i will reinstall samba and check if i can get it to run now, otherwise i will bring the detailed error here
[02:15] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release did you upgrade from and to?
[02:15] <NotSoFastJames> failed to start LSB: stat samba/CIF
[02:16] <NotSoFastJames> it was an 18.04
[02:16] <NotSoFastJames> i am not aware of the current kernel
[02:16] <NotSoFastJames> i will get that hang on
[02:18] <NotSoFastJames> linux kernel image 4.4.0 131
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> before dist-upgrade it was the same with uname -a
[02:19] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: on ubuntu bionic?
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> yes
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> ubuntu
[02:19] <tomreyn> did you reboot after finishing the upgrade?
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> this is a server style ubuntu machine
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> no
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> i will do so now
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> hang on
[02:19] <NotSoFastJames> btw thank you kindly sir for your friendly help, i dont know how to thank you: thank you!
[02:19] <tomreyn> better check you have all updates installed before you do
[02:20] <tomreyn> :) welcome
[02:27] <NotSoFastJames> tomrey i did the sudo reboot style restart of the system, and again removed samba, then apt-get update && upgrade&& dist-upgrade
[02:28] <NotSoFastJames> re installing samba with a sudo apt-get install samba style command again threw the same error
[02:28] <NotSoFastJames> using autoremove style command to purge old just to be sure
[02:28] <NotSoFastJames> tomreyn is it possible that this vulnerability with samba is causing this headache?
[02:29] <NotSoFastJames> what does this LSB error message mean? "cants start LSB: start samba/CIF...)"
[02:29] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: so far, i see no reason to believe that any vulnerability is getting in the way here. are you able to remote control the samba server, such as via ssh?
[02:30] <madLyfe> does mdadm only work with intel chips?
[02:31] <tomreyn> madLyfe: no
[02:31] <NotSoFastJames> not as of now, i am experiencing network issues the server is not apearing in the network
[02:31] <NotSoFastJames> it is apearing in the gateway-style router device though
[02:31] <NotSoFastJames> also it has access to the inernet
[02:31] <madLyfe> i think this is bad? mdadm: imsm capabilities not found for controller: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2 (type SATA)
[02:32] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: which OS runs on the computer you are chatting from?
[02:32] <madLyfe> trying to use mdadm on the marvell controller.
[02:32] <NotSoFastJames> this is now my gfs computer runnig a windows style OS
[02:33] <NotSoFastJames> my own ubuntu has issues with its network card so i have to plug it in via ethernet
[02:33] <NotSoFastJames> getting a new wifi card as we speak
[02:34] <NotSoFastJames> this is why i cannot easily copy paste the error messages
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[02:34] <NotSoFastJames> i tired putting a dual boot on this machine but i didnt get that to work...
[02:34] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: okay, also install openssh-server on the samba server, then you can download putty to the windows computer and connect to the ip address of the samba server
[02:35] <NotSoFastJames> she already had putty on here
[02:35] <c25> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[02:36] <NotSoFastJames> ssh is not working for some reason
[02:36] <NotSoFastJames> i had it set up on my ubuntu (not the server but my own device)
[02:36] <tomreyn> is there an error message? are you connecting the the right server?
[02:36] <NotSoFastJames> and it didnt work ever since i had the samba issues
[02:37] <NotSoFastJames> i used to be able to easily connect to the server style ubuntu machine using m own ubuntu main pc but it suddenly wont work
[02:37] <NotSoFastJames> no it just says it timed out
[02:38] <tomreyn> when you run "systemctl status ssh" on the server, does it report an error message?
[02:38] <NotSoFastJames> is it possible that an outside party took over my server and with it my network?
[02:38] <NotSoFastJames> i dont know like a worm or a troyan or something?
[02:39] <tomreyn> why would you think so?
[02:39] <tomreyn> i think you are jumping to conclusions.
[02:39] <NotSoFastJames> idk i find it odd that all of a sudden ssh stops working then samba also suddenly starts working..
[02:39] <NotSoFastJames> i mean stops
[02:39] <tomreyn> if something doesn't work as expected, a compromise is one of many, and not the most likely, reason.
[02:41] <NotSoFastJames> i see, i am trying to ssh with my personal computer running ubuntu and the openssh-server is on my server
[02:41] <NotSoFastJames> which is also running ubuntu
[02:41] <NotSoFastJames> again it looks like it will time out
[02:42] <NotSoFastJames> i think maybe somehow the network got messed up, like routing tables or something idk the words
[02:43] <tomreyn> so when you ran commands on the samba server some minutes ago, was this through ssh from your ubuntu desktop, or was it directly on the samba server?
[02:44] <NotSoFastJames> this is the error with ssh "ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 23: connection timed out
[02:44] <NotSoFastJames> tomreyn directly on the server
[02:45] <NotSoFastJames> at the time my ubuntu main was turned off also ssh didnt work for a while now
[02:47] <NotSoFastJames> at the time my ubuntu main was turned off also ssh didnt work for a while now
[02:47] <NotSoFastJames> sorry for double post
 when you run "systemctl status ssh" on the server, does it report an error message?
 so when you ran commands on the samba server some minutes ago, was this through ssh from your ubuntu desktop, or was it directly on the samba server?
[02:49] <tomreyn> please try those, then report back
[02:54] <Goop> I'm frustrated as crap, because I followed this tutorial: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Hello+World and the phone on 6001 doesn't seem to ever work.
[02:55] <Goop> I have tried it on Twinkle.
[02:55] <Goop> I had to slap it on the local machine and try <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:55] <Goop> What I am now getting is: "6001, registration failed: 403 Forbidden"
[02:55] <Goop> and "Line 1: call failed. 404 Not Found" when trying to call extension 100
[02:57] <web> hi everyone
[02:58] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: are you still working on it?
[02:59] <NotSoFastJames> yes
[03:00] <NotSoFastJames> i was checking the openssh and it said server side it is li
[03:00] <tomreyn> "li"?
[03:00] <NotSoFastJames> it is listening on the proper port but on the address <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <tomreyn> <IP_ADDRESS> means 'everywhere', that's fine
[03:01] <NotSoFastJames> i checked the ssh_config and sshd_config but i didnt put that option so technically it should of been listening on all addresses
[03:01] <NotSoFastJames> oh
[03:01] <NotSoFastJames> i reinstalled open-ssh just to be sure
[03:01] <NotSoFastJames> but my ssh sitll timed out
[03:01] <NotSoFastJames> i mean from my non server
[03:02] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: check, on the server, what its ip address is. you can use the 'ip a' command
[03:02] <designbybeck> in 16.04 you could press CTRL + L to change the path in a dialog box, but how do you do that in 18.04 with gnome?
[03:03] <NotSoFastJames> the server style ip is different from what nmap claimed it was!
[03:03] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: you can ignore the 'lo' (LOOPBACK) device (usually number 1), so look at the others instead. the number which follows 'inet' is an ip address
[03:05] <NotSoFastJames> ok iam lgged in
[03:06] <NotSoFastJames> logged in, thank you again for your kind and merciful help
[03:06] <tomreyn> designbybeck: i dont think it exists anymore, but you can click on 'other locations' on the bottom left to browse there
[03:06] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: great!
[03:07] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: so you can now run "uname -r" again?
[03:08] <tomreyn> designbybeck: whoops, actually ctrl-l works here
[03:09] <tomreyn> this is nautilus on 18.04.1
[03:09] <madLyfe> i want to add kubuntu to my dual install setup(ubuntu on one SSD and win 10 on another). i dont mind getting rid of ubuntu and only having kubuntu but im not sure about just adding kubuntu to the nix SSD, let alone removing ubuntu.
[03:09] <NotSoFastJames> 4.40-133-generic
[03:09] <NotSoFastJames> tomaw
[03:09] <NotSoFastJames> tomreyn
[03:10] <NotSoFastJames> madlyfe you can do a tripple boot
[03:10] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: okay, so it seems that your release upgrade was not really successful. there is no kernel version 4.4.0 on bionic (18.04)
[03:10] <madLyfe> what if i wanted to remove ubuntu before or after?
[03:10] <NotSoFastJames> just install the kubuntu with the preexisting ubuntu and it will give you the option to install next to the pre-exisitng ubuntu
[03:11] <tomreyn> madLyfe: "sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop" on the existing ubuntu installation
[03:11] <NotSoFastJames> then you can pick and choose in a grub style menu every time you boot up
[03:11] <NotSoFastJames> oh kubuntu is not a distro?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> madLyfe: wht bit dual boot both (k)ubuntu and ubuntu ? I do multi-boot : http://termbin.com/ft18 .
[03:11] <tomreyn> kubuntu is an ubuntu flavour
[03:11] <madLyfe> tomreyn: is that bad? rather than just having one? rather than one on top of the other?
[03:11] <NotSoFastJames> tomreyn so the key to solving this problem is just updating the kernel?
[03:12] <NotSoFastJames> tjaml
[03:13] <NotSoFastJames> thank you tomreyn i am goig to look into how to get a new kernel manually
[03:13] <NotSoFastJames> thanks for your kindness and big heart and generosity and patience and mercifulness!
[03:14] <tomreyn> NotSoFastJames: probablky it's not that easy. can you run this: sudo true; pastebin <( cat /proc/version; lsb_release -ds; echo; apt-get update 2>&1; echo; apt-get dist-upgrade -V --assume-no 2>&1; echo; apt-cache policy 2>&1; )
[03:16] <designbybeck> hmmm tomreyn is nautilus the default file browser in 18.04?
[03:16] <tomreyn> designbybeck: yes
[03:17] <designbybeck> OH tomreyn you are correct! It does work in the file browser...I was trying in a save as dialog box from a firefox! It would be nice it if worked there too!
[03:17] <designbybeck> tomreyn, thanks for the feedback!
[03:17] <tomreyn> madLyfe: installing multiple desktop environemnets on a single ubuntu installation is anoption. there are meta packages such as ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop. if you install both, you can switch between desktop environments on the graphical login.
[03:19] <tomreyn> designbybeck: hmm right it doesnt seem to work there
[03:20] <madLyfe> i mean i like ubuntu but with KDE plasma so i dont mind just rocking Kubuntu but not sure of what that process would be since i have grub in a dual boot setup with win10
[03:21] <madLyfe> this is my win 10 SSD: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aJBSzSxy/Screenshot%20from%202018-08-18%2022-20-58.png
[03:22] <madLyfe> and this is my ubuntu SSD https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7IS5ey3Y/Screenshot%20from%202018-08-18%2022-22-29.png
[03:24] <unholymachine> awesome
[03:24] <unholymachine> what now?
[03:25] <unholymachine> personally i'd use XFCE as a window manager
[03:25] <unholymachine> boot in a few seconds if on SSD
[03:27] <tomreyn> madLyfe: if you want to do a new installation of kubuntu, replacing the previous ubntu installation, and keeping windows bootable, all you should need to do is to run the kubuntu installer and install to sda
[03:28] <madLyfe> is grub on the win ssd?
[03:28] <tomreyn> unholymachine: what is the context of what you are saying?
[03:29] <tomreyn> madLyfe: grub is probbaly on sda, but there is no easy way to know, nor is there a need to know. you can just install it to sda.
[03:30] <unholymachine> oh , i just stumbled in and didn't read what madLyfe is trying to do. i was just making a comment as how to best utilize the speeds offered by solid state media when it comes to using a GUI for linux
[03:30] <tomreyn> i see
[03:30] <madLyfe> ok. i thought windows does some funky stuff with booting and partitioning which is why you should install it first before nix in a dual boot setup..
[03:31] <madLyfe> didnt know if i would be messing all that up
[03:31] <unholymachine> madLyfe: grub is wherever you have your MBR(master boot record) which usually is on the first drive, which looks like your windows drive
[03:34] <unholymachine> if you want to start over w/ ubuntu i would wipe the ubuntu drive, restore  your windows MBR (https://askubuntu.com/questions/806065/how-to-remove-grub-after-deleting-ubuntu-and-repair-windows-mbr
[03:34] <tomreyn> madLyfe: actually you're UEFI booting, and have the ESP at /dev/sda1. you should preserve this (since the windows boot code is in there, too) and configure it as the ESP in your new installation.
[03:35] <unholymachine> and then re-install ubuntu w/ GUI flavor of choice (or install more than one x-window manager if you like)
[03:35] <madLyfe> i think mine is EFI not MBR: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6Onnj7LZ/image.png
[03:37] <tomreyn> hmm so apparently you have two efi system partitions, one on sda and one on sdb
[03:38] <unholymachine> madLyfe: you can also just install ubuntu from the win10 sotware store thing
[03:39] <tomreyn> if you're referring to ubuntu bash for windows: that's not an ubuntu linux installation.
[03:40] <madLyfe> i also disabled secure boot and force UEFI. it was a PITA. everything seems to work fine after.
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[03:41] <unholymachine> https://www.tweaking4all.com/os-tips-and-tricks/remove-ubuntu-windows-uefi-dualboot/
[03:41] <madLyfe> but all i did was install win 10 and installed ubuntu right after just following the instructions. so i figured it just did its thing properly.
[03:42] <unholymachine> tomreyn: i'm referring to "ubuntu" as available from the windows 10 official software store
[03:43] <madLyfe> i dont want to remove anything but ubuntu though.
[03:43] <unholymachine> madLyfe: the link i posted should be all you need
[03:43] <tomreyn> unholymachine: right, read its explanation, it won't be easily possible to run a GUI that way. it's not a full installation, no linux kernel.
[03:43] <unholymachine> to restore your system
[03:44] <unholymachine> tomreyn: admittedly i haven't tried it myself as the last time i used windows as a daily driver was in 2010
[03:44] <unholymachine> so you're probably right ?
[03:45] <madLyfe> hmmm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller
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[03:51] <madLyfe> tomreyn https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yKjerKJB/
[03:51] <Maga> Hi
[03:51] <micha234> hi, someone likes to give me a hand with my serial port setup?
[03:51] <tomreyn> madLyfe: yes?
[03:52] <madLyfe> does that help at all?
[03:52] <tomreyn> madLyfe: with what?
[03:52] <madLyfe> the breakdown of my setup?
[03:52] <madLyfe> does it make it more clear?
[03:53] <tomreyn> madLyfe: it was already understandable fromyour previous explanation and the screenshots you posted
[03:54] <madLyfe> ah. i just didnt know what i was supposed to do with tomreyn> hmm so apparently you have two efi system partitions, one on sda and one on sdb
[03:54] <madLyfe> like is the process more complicated now?
[03:55] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i would inspect the two efi partitions once you have reinstalled, to find out where the windows boot code is and to move it to the final esp
[03:55] <tomreyn> madLyfe: for now i'd say, just install.
[03:56] <madLyfe> what is final esp?
[03:56] <tomreyn> ...and reuse the esp on sda1 while installing.
[03:58] <tomreyn> madLyfe: you have two ESPs, you really only need and can use one. so you should plant to use one of the to. i suggest you use the one on sda1. it is possible that the current windows boot code is on sdb1 instead. if so, you may want to move it from there to sda1 after reinstalling linux.
[04:00] <tomreyn> madLyfe: sorry, i was wrong about the location of the ESP on sdb: it's sdb2, not sbd1
[04:00] <madLyfe> if everything is working why does it matter? btw, i didnt know ESP stood for EFI System Partition.
[04:01] <tomreyn> oh, just ask when you dont know some abbreviations.
[04:03] <tomreyn> actually you did ask, and i didn't realoze you were inquiring about the term ESP.
[04:03] <madLyfe> no biggie.
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[04:05] <endojelly> what the hell, I'm missing my groups:
[04:05] <endojelly> ~% id
[04:05] <endojelly> uid=1000(jelly) gid=1000(jelly) groups=1000(jelly)
[04:05] <endojelly> ~% id jelly
[04:05] <endojelly> uid=1000(jelly) gid=1000(jelly) groups=1000(jelly),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare),999(vboxsf)
[04:06] <endojelly> this only happens in the GUI session, not logged in via ssh
[04:06] <endojelly> any idea what that could be?
[04:06] <tomreyn> endojelly: a bug, let me find it.
[04:09] <tomreyn> endojelly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1784964
[04:11] <tomreyn> endojelly: if you have a lunchpad account, please login and select the "this bug affects me" option on top
[04:11] <tomreyn> * lAunchpad :)
[04:12] <madLyfe> tomreyn: is this a good idea to install? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hSg5Uguj/irccloudcapture3684901502963937482.jpg
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[04:12] <micha234> hi, I am having trouble to access my ubuntu server via serial console cable. would be glad if someone could have a look at this
[04:14] <tomreyn> madLyfe: i can'r make the license decision for you. depending no which hardware you have, having it run with proprietary drivers from the start can be useful. such as wireless devices which depend on proprietary drivers or firmware which isnt already distributed with ubuntu (due to licensing restrictions)
[04:14] <tomreyn> micha234: which ubuntu verison is it?
[04:15] <madLyfe> I'm just going to go with it.
[04:16] <micha234> tomreyn: its 16.04. i successfully was able to use the serial connection to "dial out" to other devices like switches etc. but somehow i am doing something wrong for "dialing into" the system
[04:16] <tomreyn> micha234: what have you configured so far?
[04:18] <micha234> so far i enabled serial in bios, enabled it for grub: dmesg|grep tty shows me the serial devices, also does stty/setserial. systemd spawned the "agetty" process for ttyS0 but every time i connect via serial from another machine no login prompt is visible. any ideas on how to troubleshoot that?
[04:19] <tomreyn> micha234: unfortunatley https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto is apparently outdated. you'll need to find instructions for systemd.
[04:19] <madLyfe> tomreyn: just an FYI, no option to install along side Ubuntu. just replace. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Mzw0ipJF/irccloudcapture7893593046693236607.jpg
[04:20] <micha234> tomreyn: yes that seems to be the case, but i recognized, that systemd automatically starts a serial-ttyS0 service which creates a unit that respawns an appropriate (at least i think it is) agetty process
[04:21] <micha234> tomreyn: so the init part of the howto is the only obsolete part as far as i can tell
[04:22] <tomreyn> micha234: i'm afraid i haven't actually setup a serial console on systmed, yet
[04:23] <tomreyn> documentation i found when i looked for it was not consistent.
[04:23] <micha234> tomreyn: didnt do it for inbound setup neither so far^^
[04:24] <tomreyn> https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Virtual_and_serial_console_changes
[04:24] <tomreyn> i guess i'd try this
[04:25] <micha234> tomreyn: systemd it spawns a process "/sbin/agetty --keep-baud<PHONE_NUMBER>0 9600 ttyS0 vt220" which I also tried in various argument variations based on documentations found on the web. it just does not seem to forward to the login prompt somehow.
[04:25] <micha234> will have a read, thanks
[04:26] <tomreyn> this is mr. systemd's generic how-to http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html
[04:26] <tomreyn> madLyfe: you wante dto replace, wasnt it?
[04:27] <sim_> hi, is anybody from Iran ?
[04:27] <tomreyn> madLyfe:  the other option i discussed initially was to just install the kubuntu desktop environment on the existing ubuntu installation, and switch this way.
[04:27] <tomreyn> sim_: do yuo have an ubuntu support question?
[04:27] <tomreyn> also hi!
[04:27] <madLyfe> yes I'm proceeding with that as we speak. just letting ppl know there isn't an option to install along side another distro from the wizard.
[04:28] <madLyfe> we've gone too far now. 😁
[04:29] <tomreyn> !ot | sim_, if you'd just like to chat
[04:30] <Jojero> Hello, can anyone help me, I am trying to move to ubuntu now.
[04:30] <tomreyn> Jojero: hi. we can try, what's your question?
[04:30] <madLyfe> well after the reboot I wasn't taken to grub.. windows just booted like I didn't have a dual install. whoops
[04:31] <Jojero> But I don't have my 1tb HDD right now, how can I do this I have 2 partitions, 250gb then 250 gb on the 2nd one.
[04:31] <Jojero> Can I move my files to the 2nd partition then install linux on the 1st one then move the files to the root of ubuntu after installation then make then ntfs to ext4?
[04:32] <tomreyn> madLyfe: you can change your bios to boot 'ubuntu' instead.
[04:32] <Jojero> I dont wanna dual boot tho, I will ditch windows 10 now as Full Stack Developer, the windows is so unfriendly.
[04:35] <tomreyn> Jojero: before you install ubuntu, be sure you have proper backups. you can install alongside an existing OS, or choose which partitions to (delete and) install to. if you are going to replace your existing operating system i suggest you just install ubuntu on one (entire) disk, then restore any data you lost when doing so.
[04:35] <tomreyn> (fomr the backup)
[04:36] <Jojero> Oh, alright I need to get my hdd at home. XD btw, what kind of partition scheme will you recommend?
[04:36] <Jojero> 500gb, 4gb swap or 8gb swap? 20gb root? rest to the home? Im not sure tho
[04:41] <madLyfe> tomreyn: ty I was able to get to Kubuntu that way. but it's the same issue after a restart.
[04:41] <tomreyn> Jojero: depends on a couple factors. ubuntu desktop 18.04.can configure a sane partition scheme automatically if you chgoose so.
[04:41] <tomreyn> madLyfe: can you choose ubuntu as a permanent boot option on the bios?=
[04:41] <tomreyn> what you seem to have done now was a boot order override for this single boot only
[04:44] <ryuo> Jojero: how much RAM?
[04:45] <tomreyn> Jojero: if you'll do suspend to disk, you'll need as much swap as you have RAM. but this doesn't have to be a partition, can be a swap *file* on some other partition. if you wont suspend to disk, you'll only need a third or half your ram as swap, unless you're really short of ram.
[04:45] <madLyfe> is it possible to go back to using grub?
[04:45] <Jojero> Ram was 4gb I wanna upgrade it to 8gb at the end of the monh
[04:46] <ryuo> Jojero: I generally consider swap optional, but then my use cases never seem to need it.
[04:46] <ryuo> Jojero: it's necessary for any PCs you intend to use hibernation (suspend to disk) on.
[04:47] <tomreyn> madLyfe: once you booted into linux, just make sure the right ESP is mounted to /boot/efi and that the windows boot code is also there, and update and install grub. also make sure os-prober is installed before running update-grub, but this should be the case already.
[04:47] <ryuo> Jojero: as for root, you don't need a massive partition. this isn't Windows which needs 15GB+ for a basic install.
[04:48] <ryuo> Jojero: i've gotten away with 8GB, but you may want to allocate more for your initial transition.
[04:48] <ryuo> My servers use less than 2GB... heh
[04:49] <Jojero> Oh haha alright.
[04:49] <ryuo> desktop Linux requires a lot more.
[04:49] <Jojero> So Can I use my ntfs for backup purposes?
[04:50] <ryuo> The existing windows installation?
[04:50] <Jojero> Naa I will delete the existing installation
[04:50] <Jojero> 232gb for the existing, that what I will delete
[04:50] <ryuo> That's a common choice for external drives.
[04:50] <Jojero> The 232 gb is another partition but ntfs
[04:50] <ryuo> It's writable by non-root users by default on Linux.
[04:50] <Jojero> I wanna move my files there first before installing linux
[04:51] <ryuo> frankly regular unix file systems get in the way on removable media in typical desktop use cases.
[04:51]  * tomreyn will take some rest, ttyl
[04:51] <micha234> tomreyn: thanks the debian and 0pointer links you provided reflect what i did so far. so that looks good. wondering why i am not able to do inbound serial connections then. :/
[04:51] <Jojero> But I was thinking if its possible that I could merge my partition ntfs to the main partition on linux
[04:52] <ryuo> Jojero: not directly. you need an intermediary to hold data.
[04:52] <tomreyn> micha234: sorry, i'm heading out, try to get help with this in #ubuntu-server, too
[04:52] <ryuo> you can't just convert ntfs to any Linux filesystem.
[04:52] <tomreyn> good luck
[04:52] <micha234> tomreyn: no worries, thanks for having a look
[04:52] <Jojero> I cant just format it?
[04:52] <ryuo> Jojero: You can, but your old data is effectively gone.
[04:53] <Jojero> like linux partition home <- data transfer <- NTFS
[04:53] <ryuo> That's what I mean.
[04:53] <Jojero> I mean Im using windows right now
[04:53] <ryuo> You need to store any data you wish to keep elsewhere.
[04:53] <Jojero> wait, let me explain.
[04:53] <ryuo> I thought you were asking about FS conversion.
[04:53] <ryuo> Ok..
[04:53] <Jojero> I wanna install linux on the first partition of my windows where win 10 was installed
[04:54] <ryuo> Ok..
[04:54] <Jojero> then move my backup files to the 2nd partition ntfs.
[04:54] <Jojero> after installation I will bring everything back to the main partition
[04:54] <ryuo> and what happens to the 2nd partition?
[04:54] <Jojero> then format the 2nd partition ntfs to ext4 or ext3
[04:55] <Jojero> then I wanna merge it to the main partition -> (this where I doubt it's possible bacause of the swap would be in the middle.
[04:55] <ryuo> You are correct. drive sectors have to be contiguous to merge partitions.
[04:56] <Jojero> But if I shrink the 2nd partition and get 4gb or 8gb from there
[04:56] <ryuo> you would need to copy the data to an external drive to pull this off right.
[04:56] <Jojero> what do you think?
[04:56] <ryuo> Jojero: your partitions are allocated like this?
[04:56] <Jojero> yea, my gf got my hdd and shes watching video right now. :/
[04:56] <Jojero> yes yes
 <SWAP> <2nd>
[04:56] <ryuo> Uh...
[04:56] <Jojero> Yes thats would be like that
[04:57] <ryuo> ROOT can only take from SWAP.
[04:57] <ryuo> It can't directly take from 2nd.

[04:57] <ryuo> Oh.
[04:57] <Jojero> so what if I do it like this,
[04:57] <ryuo> Either way, you're basically wanting to swap their positions.
 (by shrinking the 2nd partition ntfs)
[04:58] <ryuo> Complicated but doable. I don't generally recommend it.
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[04:58] <ryuo> Resizing partitions can be a difficult task to get right.
[04:58] <Jojero> what you mean doable?
[04:59] <Jojero> a litle bit clogged?
[04:59] <Jojero> I could resize it, not much files there for now. XD
[04:59] <ryuo> Jojero: you can do this if you delete the last 2 partitions, enlarge home partition, then reallocate the deleted partitions.
[04:59] <ryuo> and reformat them.
[04:59] <Jojero> 250 gb only has 13gb of files
[05:00] <Jojero> I will not lose my files right since I will move my files from ntfs to home?
[05:00] <Mathuin> With 18.04, is it possible to configure a systemd service to wait until LDAP is up?
[05:00] <ryuo> shouldn't. enlarging a partition should not harm the existing data.
[05:01] <ryuo> Jojero: you'd need to resize the filesystem after this is all done.
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | Mathuin start here
[05:01] <Jojero> ryuo: oh I get it now,
[05:02] <Jojero> so after I install linux, will I need to set the swap partition already?
[05:02] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: while interesting, I'm not sure how that answers my question
[05:02] <Jojero> ryou: so how will I enlarge it?
[05:02] <ryuo> Jojero: No idea. installations can be rather destructive. I generally suggest using an external backup to minimize risks.
[05:03] <Jojero> haha yea I go to my gf later after laundry, busy life.
[05:03] <Jojero> thanks ryou
[05:03] <Jojero> what image editor should I use as a full stack web developer on linux?
[05:03] <Jojero> -- ryou
[05:04] <ryuo> gparted is commonly suggested. i prefer fdisk myself.
[05:04] <ryuo> or gdisk.
[05:05] <slackgirl> hi
[05:05] <slackgirl> fuck ubuntu
[05:05] <slackgirl> i love elementary OS
[05:05] <ryuo> If you're going for external backup, just decide what your final scheme will look like and just reinstall from there.
[05:05] <slackgirl> and drugs...
[05:05] <ryuo> Jojero: it's far easier to get it right from the first draft than it is to correct later.
[05:06] <ryuo> Jojero: probably should just use the default partitioning scheme.
[05:06] <Jojero> alright, and btw how about this, image editor?
[05:06] <ryuo> Jojero: unless you really understand how to use a custom one.
[05:07] <ryuo> Jojero: image editor? define image. it has many meanings.
[05:07] <Jojero> hi slackgirl how are you?
[05:07] <ryuo> Jojero: i believe they were a troll.
[05:07] <Jojero> haha yea XD
[05:07] <ryuo> incidently, elementary OS is a derivative of ubuntu.
[05:07] <Jojero> I mean editor like photoshop
[05:08] <Jojero> other from GIMP
[05:08] <ryuo> Closest thing is GIMP, but there's plenty of options.
[05:08] <ryuo> Just none as feature packed.
[05:08] <ryuo> mtpaint
[05:09] <ryuo> that's one I used to use.
[05:11] <Jojero> how about using it on wine?
[05:12] <ryuo> Maybe works. That's not a solution for everything.
[05:12] <ryuo> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?iId=17&sClass=application
[05:17] <Mathuin> lotuspsychje: okay, after having read those, I still cannot tell how to configure a systemd service to wait until LDAP is up.
[05:17] <Mathuin> I know there's a systemd service libnss-ldap but I can't figure out how to tell, say, the docker service, to wait until after libnss-ldap is up.
[05:17] <ryuo> Mathuin: up or started?
[05:18] <ryuo> Mathuin: If "started", then you can use After directive to start a unit only after the one it needs has.
[05:25] <c3po_> allo allo salut tout l monde!
[05:26] <Mathuin> ryuo: the Docker service waits for network-online.target to be achieved, if I understand correctly.  libnss-ldap is *not* part of that target.  I would like to add libnss-ldap to that target.  This is apparently more challenging than I thought.
[05:26] <ryuo> Mathuin: you would need to override it with a new definition.
[05:26] <ryuo> Mathuin: that's a system defined unit.
[05:27] <Mathuin> Is there a better way to achieve my goal?  Right now I have to have Docker disabled on boot because things break if it tries to start before LDAP is up.
[05:28] <ryuo> Mathuin: well.... you can edit the target, overriding the defaults so it is included.
[05:28] <Mathuin> Just like I would ahve to edit the docker.service file to add libnss-ldap.service to its After: line
[05:28] <Goop> Where is the source path for Asterisk in Ubuntu 16.04?
[05:30] <Mathuin> ryuo: that didn't work. :-(  not a fan of systemd, less of one now.  Back to starting stuff by hand.
[05:31] <ryuo> Mathuin: i'm not an expert on these advanced setups. i don't use ldap personally.
[05:32] <Mathuin> LDAP's not really the issue.  In the old-school way of doing things, I'd change the prefix number like S99 or whatever.  Now, I have no idea how to even find out what order things are happening in
[06:01] <benz> HI everyone
[06:33] <LordDoskias> hello i'm having troubles using my ubuntu 16.04 openvpn setup after i ugpraded to 18.04. Everytime I run sudo systemctl start openvpn@CONF-FILE openvpn fails by saying that it cannot open CONF-FILE. ANd the file is in /etc/openvpn or rather there is a symlink to the actual config file. THis worked fine on 16.04
[06:33] <LordDoskias> if i run openvpn binary myself on the command line it works
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[07:22] <gbellinoz> Should I use pip for all python packages, or apt ?
[07:23] <t3hyoshi> pip
[07:24] <t3hyoshi> It's always advised to use the language's own library manager over apt
[07:24] <t3hyoshi> npm for nodejs, gem for ruby, nuget for c# and so on.
[07:36] <gbellinoz> Thanks team.
[07:47] <leachim6> hey
[07:48] <leachim6> I'm trying to get docker to work with netplan and I need to allow ipv4 forwarding and masquarading, but I can't figure out how to do it with netplan
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !netplan | leachim6 start here
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[08:28] <beaver9> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[08:28] <Shrooms21> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[08:49] <gbellinoz> Well, that proves it.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> gbellinoz: can we help you?
[09:18] <Bilbo> What does --purge do in the "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" command?
[09:23] <Cotrr> Hello. I have a file with this permissions: `-rw-r--r-- 1 root www-data 131072 Aug 19 09:20 db.sqlite3` and I get "attempt to write a readonly database". What is the right thing to do in this case?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Bilbo: tell us what you are trying to do please?
[09:34] <nostrora> Hi, how can i change DNS in ubuntu 18.04 ? there is <IP_ADDRESS> and i want to hack /etc/resolv.conf to set another DNS
[09:34] <nostrora> because docker bug with <IP_ADDRESS> DNS. i don't want inside resolver in my ubuntu..
[09:40] <Bilbo> lotuspsychje: I am trying to learn what the --purge part of the command does
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> Bilbo: purge means removing
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> Bilbo: like in sudo apt purge packagename
[09:41] <Bilbo> So how is  "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" different than "sudo apt-get autoremove"?
[09:44] <lilkuz2005> apt remove will uninstall, apt remove --purge will also uninstall and remove the config files for the application
[09:45] <Bilbo> config files are?
[09:46] <lilkuz2005> settings files most commonly found in ~/.config
[09:51] <lilkuz2005> sudo apt remove pcsxr will uninstall my emulator, but if i take a look in my home folder and cd into the .config folder the .pcsxr config will still be there, if i sudo apt remove pcsxr --purge pcsxr then it will remove the package and the config
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[10:11] <Bilbo> If you use remove to uninstall, will purge remove those config files of that already uninstalled program?
[10:12] <rtarded> Hi guys. Just installed Ubuntu 18.04.1, and selected the Encryption option. It created 2 boot partitions and I was wondering why? /boot/efi at 512MiB and /boot at 732 MiB
[10:13] <JimBuntu> Bilbo, it should
[10:14] <Bilbo> Are things like game saves "config files" for the purposes of purge?
[10:23] <Bilbo> lotuspsychje: JimBuntu
[10:24] <JimBuntu> ?
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[10:25] <Bilbo> JimBuntu: Are things like game saves "config files" for the purposes of purge?
[10:25] <JimBuntu> Bilbo, possibly and possibly not, this really depends on where the files are saved and how well the package is written
[10:26] <aloo_shu> Bilbo: that probably depends on if the game saves file is generated after the game's firstrun, or if it already exists as e.g. an empty file in the pkg
[10:27] <lilkuz2005> Bilbo, config files are pretty much your personal settings for a application installed on the system, if your system has 3 user accounts each user may use the same programs but each user will have different settings for those programs and those settings are stored in the .config folder in the users home folder
[10:28] <Bilbo> Also I know this isn't ubuntu issue but if someone would please tell me what that thing where web pages tell you about new stuff from them is called. I foolishly agreed to one and its giving me ad notices but since I can't remember what it is called I can't search how to change it so no permission
[10:30] <JimBuntu> Bilbo, notifications
[10:31] <JimBuntu> Bilbo, what browser?
[10:32] <Bilbo> firefox
[10:32] <JimBuntu> Bilbo, Sorry, I can't walk you through making the change in FireFox. Should be plenty in google.
[10:34] <aloo_shu> subscribe subscription unsubscribe - news could be delivered in so many ways, email, rss feed ...
[10:51] <alekh> aloo_shu, :ping
[10:52] <aloo_shu> alekh: fail
[10:52] <alekh> aloo_shu: ping
[10:53] <alekh> BluesKaj: ping
[10:53] <JimBuntu> That's two... going for a third?
[10:53] <alekh> JimBuntu, newbie on IRC
[10:54] <JimBuntu> alekh, Ok, well this is the Ubuntu support channel, if you are having difficulties, you don't need to ping specific people, simply post your issue and whoever is available and capable will answer. You can include the names of people in that request if you desire though
[10:55] <JimBuntu> Sorry alekh , meant that for aloo_shu
[10:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:00] <m4r35n357> Having big problems with matplotlib since upgrade to 18.04.1 from 16.04.  It just eats CPU and does nothing.  Tried uninstalling & reinstalling python-matplotlib2 and 3, installing using pip, and reinstalling python-tk.
[11:07] <brainwash> m4r35n357: did you check the bug tracker yet? https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues
[11:08] <ChunkzZ> anyone know why I'm getting this error when installing stuff and logging into my desktop? https://pastebin.com/f6P0fQAr
[11:10] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue  # first result on google
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, tried that and it's the same error!
[11:14] <leftyfb> what did you try exactly/
[11:14] <leftyfb> ?
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[11:14] <ChunkzZ> the link you sent me for GB and US.
[11:14] <leftyfb> please use pastebin on exactly what you tried
[11:15] <ChunkzZ> sudo locale-gen "en_US.UTF-8" & sudo locale-gen "en_GB.UTF-8" & sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:19] <ChunkzZ> still the same even after a reboot leftyfb
[11:20] <leftyfb> please use pastebin on exactly what you tried. Including follow the instructions in the link I posted
[11:21] <ChunkzZ> no need to use pastebin, I paste what I tried here
[11:21] <ChunkzZ> sudo locale-gen "en_US.UTF-8" & sudo locale-gen "en_GB.UTF-8" & sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:21] <ChunkzZ> still gives the same error :(
[11:22] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: It's called troubleshooting. You did not run the commands in the link I gave you as requested. You did not post any of the output or the EXACT commands to pastebin as requested. IF you'd like help, please provide the information requested.
[11:23] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, I provided the commands I done...
[11:23] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: It's called troubleshooting. You did not run the commands in the link I gave you as requested. You did not post any of the output or the EXACT commands to pastebin as requested. If you'd like help, please provide the information requested.
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> I can read leftyfb
[11:24] <ChunkzZ> I ran the commands from the link... lol
[11:26] <thurin6> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[11:26] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: ok, good luck then.
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, this is what I tried on pastebin.. https://pastebin.com/BDmHVx4z
[11:27] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: that's not what was requested
[11:27] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: please pastebin the commands you type and the output from your terminal
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> sure.
[11:27] <ChunkzZ> sec
[11:27] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: including the instructions from the link I gave you
[11:28] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: here is the link for reference: https://askubuntu.com/a/227513
[11:29] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: Is there some reason you can't just copy and paste things from your terminal into pastebin? I do NOT want you typing everything manually into pastebin.
[11:29] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/qcjkrUuT
[11:30] <JimBuntu> Do environment variabel changes even apply between different sudo sessions?
[11:30] <leftyfb> ah, maybe the reason is because you're running a non-official version of ubuntu on an odriod device?
[11:31] <ChunkzZ> so you can't help?
[11:31] <JimBuntu> ChunkzZ, this channel is for official versions of Ubuntu, and even then, only specific ones. Please see /topic
[11:31] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: not if you're not running an official version of ubuntu, no. Though you could verywell try following the instructions I gave you. So far you have not given the output of the very first command in that link
[11:32] <ChunkzZ> I pastebinned the exact error and the command I tried. .-.
[11:32] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: Then that means you didn't follow the instructions I gave you
[11:33] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: the link has you run 1 command at the very beginning to tell you WHICH locale's need to be set. I have yet to see the output of that command
[11:34] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: but again, since this is a modified version of ubuntu, we cannot help you here. No telling what changes they made to that image. You'll need to seek support from the community you got it from
[11:34] <ChunkzZ> https://pastebin.com/xBUSWpqc it asks me to set the locales so I set US/UK.
[11:35] <ChunkzZ> ugh.
[11:35] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: good luck.
[11:35] <ChunkzZ> lol you ask for it, I provide it and you say good luck. hahaha
[11:36] <junction00> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[11:36] <JimBuntu> ChunkzZ, in which pastebin did you run 'locale' ?
[11:37] <leftyfb> :)
[11:37] <ChunkzZ> JimBuntu, https://pastebin.com/vbpKmH3v
[11:38] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: you never pastebined that before like I requested several times
[11:38] <ChunkzZ> yeah I didn't see it.
[11:39] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/locale-cannot-set-lc_all-to-default-locale-no-such-file-or-directory-218622/
[11:39] <leftyfb> first result on google
[11:40] <JimBuntu> leftyfb, Since they are running everything with sudo... how bad would it be to simply sudo su root and run everything?
[11:40] <leftyfb> JimBuntu: wouldn't matter
[11:40] <JimBuntu> leftyfb, thank you.
[11:42] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, I'm reading it and the second post says export LC_ALL="en_US" but where do I put that/
[11:43] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: in your terminal. Then run your `locale` again and maybe local-gen
[11:43] <leftyfb> locale-gen*
[11:43] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: again, you really should be seeking out support options from the community you got the non-official image of ubuntu
[12:03] <penguin42> the 4.15.0-32 kernel update on 18.04 is panic'ing at boot for me; the -30 is fine; anyone else seeing that?
[12:07] <k70> hi
[12:11] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[12:12] <Umeaboy> Has anyone had problems playing an ISO image created with brasero from a DVD that you own yourself?
[12:12] <Umeaboy> VLC plays it but totem does not.
[12:12] <Umeaboy> totem fails to open the "disc" menu.
[12:16]  * penguin42 files it as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1787807
[12:16] <Umeaboy> mplayer plays it fine, but skips the menu choices for some reason.
[12:17] <gbellinoz> Umeaboy: not helpful, probably, but this sort of thing has never consistently worked in the 20+ years I've used linux :)
[12:17] <gbellinoz> I just keep a bunch of players around and use the one that works for whatever particular use-case / iso.
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: maybe you made it wrong? own made dvd's can do that sometimes..
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: for dvd's use vlc or smplayer
[12:22] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: As I said, mplayer plays it fine, but the VLC session looses audio when I fast forward whilst mplayer does not.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: you made this iso dvd yourself?
[12:23] <Umeaboy> Yeah, with brasero.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: test another official dvd menu to compare, judge for yourself
[12:25] <BluesKaj> to run VLC properly there's abit of a learning curve , but if one explores the video and audio options and experiments with different types of media files it becomes clear what options one needs to make it work properly, and it's worth the time and effort
[12:31] <qwebirc71453> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS does not work with or unable to load Wine at this time. Someone please fix and release a patch soon. Thank you
[12:33] <Umeaboy> It amazes me that people still try to run Windows apps and games in Linux. Why not use a VM and install it in the right system?? Then you could just jump back and forth between the systems.
[12:34] <gbellinoz> Less RAM.
[12:34] <gbellinoz> I use Wine for some simple things, but VirtualBox and Win10 for Office....
[12:34] <qwebirc71453> because I only want to run one application
[12:34] <qwebirc71453> other then that I use Linux for everything
[12:35] <Umeaboy> qwebirc71453: Can't you just send a message to the developers and ask them to release the source code of it?
[12:38] <Umeaboy> Anyway, have to go. Take care.
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !wine | qwebirc71453
[12:45] <sunri5e> Hello, how can I find out which smb protocol version the smb client inside gvfs uses?
[12:49] <lilkuz2005> anyone in here know if there is a way to have a dualshock 3 controller automatically power off after so long ?
[12:50] <ikonia> I think the later HID driver for it powers it off at a set time with no movement
[12:51] <ikonia> I know it does with the PS3 controller, and I think it does with a dualshock 3 (Ps4 right ?)
[12:51] <lilkuz2005> its a ps3 controller
[12:51] <ikonia> should work then
[12:51] <lilkuz2005> im using the stock xpad driver im pretty sure
[12:52] <Guest15282> How to install VirtualBox on Ubuntu 18.04
[12:52] <acresearch> people i am using arch linux but my colleagues are using ubuntu, they sent me a python script that gives me an error with a MYSQL database, error 2003 cannot connect to local host, i want to know does ubuntu comes with mysql setup, because arch does not
[12:52] <Guest15282> ?
[12:54] <Guest15282> !virtualbox
[12:54] <quinnod34> yay
[12:55] <t3hyoshi> acresearch: No. MySQL/MariaDB is not included with a standard Ubuntu setup
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | acresearch
[12:55] <quinnod34> oooook
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> quinnod34: can we help you?
[12:55] <quinnod34> no
[12:55] <quinnod34> I am good
[12:56] <lilkuz2005> ikonia, i quit a game and ran to the store, i had to be gone at least 20 minutes and came back and the controller was still on, im not sure if there is a config i can adjust the auto off feature
[12:57] <quinnod34> Has anyone tried downloading minecraft for ubuntu?It doesn't work!
[12:57] <Guest15282> !minecraft
[12:57] <lilkuz2005> quinnod34, where did you get it from ?
[12:58] <quinnod34> I typed in code from the terminal. I got it online
[12:59] <Kuwanger> Anyone else here on nvidia-384 who drags a Chromium window off the top part of the screen to the right of the leftmost edge see the window being shifted right?
[12:59] <t3hyoshi> What was that code?
[13:00] <quinnod34> http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/08/04/install-minecraft-ubuntu-16-04-ubuntu-16-10/
[13:00] <t3hyoshi> Wait, isn't minecraft in both snap and apt?
[13:01] <quinnod34> I think
[13:01] <lilkuz2005> i just installed it via gnome-software and its working
[13:01] <quinnod34> ok I will try that
[13:02] <t3hyoshi> No, it's just snap. did you remember to sudo apt update before installing?
[13:02] <quinnod34> yes
[13:03] <lilkuz2005> quinnod34, after install it takes like 15 to 20 seconds to load the launcher on my machine, running a ssd, i5 3570k with 8gb of ddr3, gtx 980
[13:03] <quinnod34> when I use the launcher it always crashes
[13:04] <quinnod34> I did it on raspbian but not on ubuntu
[13:05] <qq> qq
[13:05] <qq> q
[13:05] <qq> q
[13:06] <qq> q
[13:06] <qq> q
[13:06] <quinnod34> with https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=186547
[13:06] <lilkuz2005> quinnod34, its working on this machine, ubuntu-mate 18.04
[13:06] <quinnod34> oh
[13:07] <quinnod34> I have 16.04
[13:07] <leftyfb> quinnod34: sudo snap install minecraft-nsg
[13:08] <quinnod34> It says snap not found
[13:09] <quinnod34> I have to go
[13:09] <lilkuz2005> i haven't messed with snaps yet, from what i can tell a snap package installs all the dependencies along with the package
[13:14] <lilkuz2005> okay so my system shows i have hid_sony and xpad modules loaded, i need to see if hid_sony has a configuration file that i can edit to make the gamepad go to sleep
[13:21] <hexa-29> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[13:32] <jje> gnu/linuxgnu/linux
[13:33] <jje> sorry
[13:36] <Sircle> Any suggestions for a laptop that supports kubuntu, has power with beauty blend? (good processing power for a programmer/cpu intensive work + also some good screen IPS maybe or better with touch screen etc?)
[13:36] <Delvien> dont bother calling it gnu/linux please lol
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> Sircle: any laptop with i5 or higher and ssd and decent graphics card can do the trick, good ammount of ram
[13:40] <G0dspeed> hi
[13:41] <Delvien> Sircle depends on how much u want to spend and your idea of "beauty"
[13:42] <KanerixWolfe> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[13:42] <pagnol> all of a sudden on my thinkpad x220 running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS the onboard audio controller isn't found anymore
[13:43] <Delvien> pagnol: did you connect a bluetooth speaker/headset to it recently
[13:43] <pagnol> Delvien, no
[13:43] <Delvien> any external speaker or switch outputs?
[13:43] <pagnol> Delvien, nothing of the sort
[13:43] <Sircle> Delvien,  IPS display with touch is fine
[13:44] <Sircle> lotuspsychje, Delvien how about xps 15 or latitude 7559 with HQ processor
[13:44] <Delvien> Sircle well touch on linux is pretty hit or miss, but what do you mean by beauty?  Did you reboot since it dissappeared?
[13:47] <pagnol> Delvien, I rebooted a couple times to no avail
[13:47] <pagnol> I switched off bluetooth in the bios menu
[13:48] <Delvien> pagnol: sudo nano /etc/pulse/default.pa - comment out https://pastebin.com/2KDReJmF reboot, if it works, uncomment them and reboot
[13:49] <pagnol> Delvien, is my /etc/pulse/default.pa supposed to contain the snippet?
[13:50] <pagnol> it doesn't
[13:50] <Delvien> pagnol: maybe not in 16, If it doesnt have that, then ignore what i just said. Not sure how to help you, sorry
[13:50] <pagnol> Delvien, alright, thanks for trying anyways
[13:51] <Delvien> pagnol: did u check syslog and dmesg for errors or odd disconnects?
[13:54] <qwebirc53601> The new Macbook Pro is allergic to Ubuntu.
[13:55] <compdoc> Id buy a copy of the mac os if it ran on any pc. apple is so weird
[13:55] <qwebirc53601> :-( I cant move the top menu in osx, its driving me nuts.  Yeah I was trying 18. I assumed I would have a newer kernel on 18
[13:57] <compdoc> those ssds are common now
[13:57] <compdoc> you think thats the problem?
[13:58] <qwebirc53601> Well, I cant be sure. Im no hardware / nix expert, Im kinda curious to try 16 now that you mention it. It uses the new mobile I9, maybe something there is stopping me
[13:59] <Delvien> mobile thermonuclear heat generator :P
[14:00] <qwebirc53601> Is there some way to enable those types of drives, or is it automatic? I have tried nvme_load=yes
[14:00] <qwebirc53601> @delv for sure, its a beast of heat
[14:00] <Delvien> you shouldnt have to enable anything to make the nvme drive function
[14:01] <Delvien> the laptop im currently using, and my last two have all had nvme, no issues with it "just working" in ubuntu 17 and 18
[14:01] <Delvien> and fedora, for that matter
[14:01] <qwebirc53601> About ready to trade my 4k$ macbook for a 2k thinkpad lol
[14:02] <ls> ugh
[14:02] <Delvien> Dont ever spend more than 1500 on a laptop.
[14:02] <ls> ;-)
[14:02] <qwebirc53601> I didnt, company did
[14:02] <qwebirc53601> I love spending their money lol
[14:02] <Delvien> this hurts me.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> sounds like the IT dept drank the apple koolade too :-)
[14:04] <Delvien> I mean what are you even using this sterilizing laptop for ?
[14:04] <qwebirc53601> IM CTO, Im trying the CEO's preference
[14:04] <qwebirc53601> I ran linux / windows before.
[14:04] <pagnol> I found a line "microcode: microcode updated early to revision.." in my syslog
[14:05] <bumbar1> anyone experienced slow ssd reads/writes in 16.04? tried a simple dd test, and it was much much faster
[14:05] <qwebirc53601> netbeans, boundless. nothing intense, but I dont wanna give up the ssd to live on a thumbdrive ya know?
[14:05] <Delvien> pagnol: microcode is your "processor firmware" for lack of a better term, that wouldnt disable your audi
[14:05] <pagnol> Delvien, is this line saying that the microcode got updates?
[14:05] <pagnol> *updated
[14:06] <Delvien> pagnol: sort of
[14:06] <pagnol> wow, I had no idea it does that
[14:06] <Delvien> pagnol but i would ignore that, its not your issue
[14:06] <pagnol> I know I know.. was just curious
[14:06] <pagnol> although I coincides very well with my actual issue
[14:08] <qwebirc53601> So is the multi-lane pcie ssd the thing that is called 'nvme'?
[14:08] <pagnol> interestingly an external usb audio interface that I occasionally use also doesn't work (not recognized as an audio device even though it's normally plug and play)
[14:08] <pagnol> although it does show up in lsusb
[14:09] <qwebirc53601> pagnol, are you troubleshooting pulse?
[14:09] <pagnol> qwebirc53601, i haven't considered pulse audio as a potential culprit... maybe I should?
[14:10] <qwebirc53601> IWhats happening m8, no audio?
[14:10] <pagnol> qwebirc53601, yeah, all of a sudden no audio devices
[14:10] <pagnol> on my thinkpad x220 running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[14:11] <qwebirc53601> pagnol you have an output device up in pulse? while audio is playing does pavucontrol show a visual indicator of the sound?
[14:11] <pagnol> hold on while I install pavucontrol
[14:12] <qwebirc53601> oh, sorry I use my own flavors of ubuntu, u may have a mixer already
[14:13] <pagnol> oh god... I have run into the same problem that caused so much pain before... my boot partition filled up with unused kernel images
[14:13] <pagnol> probably that's the root cause
[14:13] <qwebirc53601> Oh wow, im impressed!
[14:13] <pagnol> I just noticed that because installing pavucontrol with apt failed
[14:14] <qwebirc53601> How small are you slicing that partition?
[14:14] <pagnol> it's 500 mb and its size was chosen for me by ubuntu's installer
[14:14] <qwebirc53601> Wowsa
[14:14] <pagnol> next time around I will make sure it's size is no less than 100 gb to be sure
[14:15] <qwebirc53601> I cant believe that filled
[14:15] <Delvien> you dont need a 100gb boot partition
[14:15] <pagnol> oh.. it happened a couple times in the past
[14:15] <pagnol> and it always manifests itself in bizarre inexplicable errors like this one
[14:15] <qwebirc53601> Ready?
[14:15] <Delvien> pagnol: check for erronious files in the boot partition. Sometimes people run dd and mess it up
[14:15] <qwebirc53601> udo apt autoremove This command removes packages that were automatically installed to resolve a dependency, but are now no longer depended on. This includes old versions of linux-headers-* and linux-image-*. (It’s also smart about this process, leaving one spare version of the kernel around as a fallback!)
[14:15] <qwebirc53601> sudo*
[14:16] <pagnol> usually when this happens, then it's to late for autoremove but I'll try anyways
[14:16] <pagnol> *too
[14:16] <qwebirc53601> try it from a recovery shell too if it doesnt work in a live desktop
[14:16] <Delvien> pagnol: du -hs /boot/* and pastebin the results
[14:17] <pagnol> autoremove seems to be doing its job
[14:17] <qwebirc53601> :-)
[14:17] <qwebirc53601> now... we just gotta cure this mac of its osx aids
[14:17] <pagnol> in the past when my boot partition had filled up, then autoremove would just belly up
[14:17] <Delvien> hammers only cost about $7.00
[14:18] <pagnol> I'll reboot...
[14:18] <qwebirc53601> Delvien, so helpful lol
[14:19] <Delvien> qwebirc5360 I do what I must.
[14:20] <qwebirc53601> Why with the hardware hate delvian?
[14:21] <Delvien> I have an issue with a company charging 3-5x the cost because they slap a stupid fruit sticker on it. SSD upgrade? 900$.
[14:21] <qwebirc53601> Yeah
[14:22] <Delvien> the screens they put in them are great, and they do a decent job of engineering (the kb is terrible though), but they charge too much, and idiots eat it up
[14:23] <Delvien> lenovo charges too much too, but its not to the extreme... and at least you can buy dependable second hand thinkpads, i cant trust apple users farther than i can throw them
[14:23] <Delvien> prime example, look how they treat their cables
[14:23] <bitch25> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[14:23] <qwebirc53601> The frame is super solid, the res and brightness is nutz, and the speakers are the best lappy speakers I have ever used. Im coming from an MSI gaming beast
[14:24] <Delvien> laptop speakers :P
[14:24] <pagnol> Alright after running auto remove I can’t seem to boot anymore
[14:24] <Delvien> I didnt suggest running auto remove, you didnt run what i said to run though :P
[14:24] <qwebirc53601> Delv, if u heard them youd understand.  I can't imagine buying my own hardware anymore.
[14:27] <Delvien> pagnol: does grub show up? can you boot into a specific kernel? "I cant seem to boot anymore" doesnt tell much
[14:27] <pagnol> I can boot to a nice kernel panic with a stack trace
[14:27] <qwebirc53601> So there is a kernel
[14:27] <Delvien> seems like you have bigger problems than a full boot partition
[14:27] <qwebirc53601> My next move pagnol, would be to reinstall.
[14:28] <qwebirc53601> But I resort to that pretty quick
[14:28] <pagnol> Ah the grub menu shows up
[14:28] <Delvien> try going to an older kernel
[14:28] <qwebirc53601> he just auto-removed them
[14:29] <pagnol> I have one older one left
[14:29] <qwebirc53601> gl!
[14:29] <pagnol> Thanks autoremove
[14:29] <qwebirc53601> :-(
[14:29] <Delvien> pagnol: autoremove wouldnt of done that, you have annother issue.
[14:29] <qwebirc53601> It just looks related
[14:29] <poopBot> hmm if i have a drive whit installed ubuntu on amd pc, can i just connect that drive to some other pc and will it work
[14:30] <pagnol> Ah really? I assumed in its wisdom it had left one there
[14:30] <poopBot> i want to connect it to laptop
[14:30] <qwebirc53601> Poop
[14:30] <poopBot> whit intel descrete i think
[14:30] <Soul_Sample> any ideas why Ubuntu 18.04 would drop my wifi connection after 30 or so minutes? it happens on two computers, but at the same time it doesn't happen for one of them at work, only at home. Are there any router settings that conflict with ubuntu?
[14:30] <qwebirc53601> Depending on architecture matching I have had good and bad luck
[14:30] <Delvien> poopBot: as long as they have similar hardware, and on the same architecture, it should boot, you might get errors however.
[14:31] <pagnol> Ok it worked
[14:31] <Delvien> Soul_Sample: check syslog and dmesg for errors
[14:31] <poopBot> i was hoping they both use that opensoruce drivers from kerenl so no panic
[14:31] <pagnol> But still no audio devices
[14:31] <qwebirc53601> YAY pagnol, sound now?
[14:31] <qwebirc53601> Audio devices from a live distro?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: wich chipset and wifi driver an wich kernel please?
[14:31] <pagnol> So those two issues were unrelated after all
[14:32] <qwebirc53601> Pagnol, can you see your audio devices from a live disk?
[14:32] <pagnol> To make sure the hardware works?
[14:33] <Delvien> qwebirc5360 he did say the "audio devices suddenly dissappeared" so we assume it was working before
[14:33] <mrblacknuel> Hi, When I boot into my USB and I install Ubuntu it shows this message:  Couldn't get size: 0x800000000000000e MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list  Afterwards, the installation begins normally and once it finishes my computer freezes for 2 minutes and shows the following messages:  https://imgur.com/a/W3Y7dcB  I power off the pc and try to run Ubuntu but it doesn't work.  I have a Hp Pavilion Power Laptop 15-cb0xx and I've tried re
[14:33] <ESphynx> hi guys, didn't Ubuntu move to GCC 7 yet?
[14:33] <pagnol> Yes they worked until they suddenly disappeared
[14:33] <qwebirc53601> Yeah, the inner scientist in me says when things dont get fixed as expected, to doublecheck our assumptions
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !latest | ESphynx
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> mrblacknuel: singleboot ubuntu or dualboot?
[14:34] <pagnol> I’ll do as you say
[14:34] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: my main PC is 4.15.0-32-generic and D-link gw122 dongle, my laptop runs the same kernel and has an intel chipset (iwlwifi driver)
[14:34] <Delvien> mrblacknuel: do you have secure boot on?
[14:34] <mrblacknuel> lotuspsychje it is dualboot with windows
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: great latest kernel
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | mrblacknuel doublecheck your uefi settings here please
[14:35] <ESphynx> lotuspsychje: well I'm asking because it seems that Debian testing has been on GCC 7 for a while, and I thought Ubuntu was generally ahead and less latest than Debian. just trying to confirm that latest Ubuntu is still on GCC 6?
[14:35] <mrblacknuel> Delvien: no, secure boot is disabled
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: while you are testing wifi, can you open a tail -f /var/log/syslog see whats going on in there at drop time
[14:35] <Delvien> mrblacknuel: any particular reason its off?
[14:36] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: to be precise, it doesn't drop the connection ,it just makes it unusably slow, i have to restart network manager or reconnect my card
[14:36] <mrblacknuel> Delvien: I tried to turn it on but I wasn't able
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !info gcc | ESphynx
[14:36] <Delvien> that doesnt make sense, how were you unable to turn on secure boot?
[14:37] <mrblacknuel> Delvien: I attach a picture of my bios configuration
[14:37] <mrblacknuel> Wait a minute
[14:37] <Delvien> i only see the error message pic
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: did other ubuntu versions were more stable wifi for you?
[14:38] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: it just happened again, sorry
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: dont worry :p
[14:39] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: i moved into this apartment 3 weeks ago, before that i never used wifi on my main PC, and the laptop i'm using is also new. i did use wifi on my old dell on kde-neon and that one works okay. haven't tried it in this apartment yet though
[14:39] <richvdh12> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: please try the tail -f /var/log/syslog then stop wifi/start again, and lets see what it all spits out, hastebin to the channel, volunteers might have a look
[14:40] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: i was absolutely sure it was due to the router being a bit far, but with my laptop i can get really close and get max speeds and then it just slows down to a crawl. dmesg gives me nothing
[14:40] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: okay, sure
[14:43] <pagnol> Curiously my wlan adapter is also suddenly no longer visible
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> pagnol: chipset? ubuntu version? kernel?
[14:43] <pagnol> Ubuntu 16.4.4
[14:43] <mrblacknuel> Delvien: Here it is my BIOS Configuration: https://imgur.com/a/HCglRDh . I'm sorry the pics are in spanish, my mother language.
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> pagnol: ubuntu 16.04.5 is out, update to latest please
[14:44] <Delvien> mrblacknuel: I dont speak spanish, so i cant help you.
[14:44] <pagnol> <IP_ADDRESS>-30
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !es | mrblacknuel
[14:45] <mrblacknuel> Delvien: I'll take the same pics in English and ask again
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> pagnol: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[14:45] <Delvien> mrblacknuel: ok
[14:48] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: this is what happens when i connect from scratch: https://hastebin.com/tamoxacawi.makefile
[14:48] <lilkuz2005> i just tried to use my old turtle beach PX3 headset on this machine, and i can either get output to the headset or input from the headset, i cant have both at the same time, the headset is wireless and has a usb puck that plugs in USB
[14:48] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: but now it will work for half an hour or so
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: let me have a look mate
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: this was just a piece of syslog? or did you do the tail?
[14:51] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: i did tail and just copied the part that generated after i replugged my wifi dongle
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: ok do you use hibernation?
[14:52] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: since it doesn't die or anything like that, when the slowdown actually happens, logs don't mention it
[14:52] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: not on my desktop, no, laptop ocasionally
[14:52] <Delvien> "associating with AP with corrupt probe response"
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: you could try as test, booting another kernel, previous or higher !mainline
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: check also if you have linux-firmware installed
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: im off for a while, if you dont get it straight, re-ask with all your details in the channel please
[14:55] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: any idea why it would happen at home and not at work? i'm connected to wifi for 8 hours at a time
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: other ubuntu version? other kernel? other chipset? or all the same?
[14:56] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: the same laptop, i just brought it home over the weekend
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> oh
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> Soul_Sample: then test this soemwhere on a public wifi as a test too ok?
[14:57] <Soul_Sample> on friday i was in a coffee place and wifi also worked okay. it's probably something to do with how this router at home is set up. when i connect via cable, everything is fine
[14:57] <Exterminador> is there any command line tool to know the first 100 IP addresses of a /64 IPv6 block, if I provide the gateway? thanks in advance
[14:57] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: well see you then, i'll keep playing and see if i come up with anything
[14:57] <Soul_Sample> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[14:58] <redruM> hey, quick question about a partitioning scheme, /boot 200MB ext4 ** swap 6GB ext4 ** / 325GB ext4 ** /home 669GB ext4
[14:58] <redruM> if installing on a 1TB laptop mainly for gaming, would this scheme be good?
[14:59] <Soul_Sample> redruM: depending on where you'll keep your games, that's an overkill for /
[14:59] <redruM> yeah, but some games install in /opt or /usr
[15:04] <ikonia> how big are the games....realistially
[15:04] <ikonia> your install will be 10-ish gig max, do you really think you'll have 300+gb of games on linux
[15:04] <pragmaticenigma> redruM: there isn't a strong reason to partition everything out like that. You would be fine just having a /boot and / partitions
[15:05] <redruM> ikonia: lol, got lots
[15:05] <ikonia> I doubt you've got 300+gb
[15:05] <redruM> pragmaticenigma: just incase, I get to keep my /home and installs
[15:06] <redruM> ikonia: yeah, mainly a just in case
[15:06] <pragmaticenigma> redruM: If the machine is primarily for gaming then I believe you have the size of / and /home swapped if you are concerned with space
[15:06] <ikonia> incase what ?
[15:07] <redruM> ikonia: I have to reinstall
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> redruM: you said just in case for two separate things
[15:08] <ikonia> redruM: ....so you're allocating more space in case you have to re-install ?
[15:08] <ikonia> that makes no sense
[15:08] <redruM> pragmaticenigma: yeah, if I mess up and need to reinstall
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> ikonia: redruM reinstall is referring to the partitioned home drive
[15:09] <redruM> pragmaticenigma: /home is for the wine games and retroarch
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> redruM: In the end it's what will work best for you. It's a question that is going to receive lots of different answers depending on who you talk to.
[15:10] <redruM> pragmaticenigma: yeah, figured, but thanks
[15:10] <pragmaticenigma> redruM: if your savy, you can always resize the partitions later down the road
[15:12] <redruM> pragmaticenigma: true, but I prefer just to do it once, and get it over with
[15:14] <catbeard> how do i get workspaces back on 18.04
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> catbeard: take a look here: https://askubuntu.com/a/287408
[15:18] <catbeard> pragmaticenigma: i don't seem to have appearance
[15:18] <catbeard> i have displays
[15:20] <catbeard> keyboard settings have the hotkeys for it, but there's no place to enable workspaces, gsettings doesn't do anything
[15:21] <ioria> catbeard, press the Windows Key and hover the mouse to the right
[15:21] <pragmaticenigma> catbeard: this is the only documenation for 18.04 i can find: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-windows.html.en
[15:22] <catbeard> ioria: that's nice but not quite, basically trying to get my ctrl-shift-arrow keys back
[15:22] <catbeard> and have a 3x3 grid
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> catbeard: The grid is no longer availble in Gnome.
[15:23] <catbeard> dangit
[15:23] <ioria> catbeard, you need gnome-tweak for other  static/dynamic settings
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> catbeard: I saw a couple references to a Gnome extension to being that feature back, but it appears to be buggy
[15:27] <mrblacknuel> Hi, When I boot into my USB and I install Ubuntu it shows this message:  Couldn't get size: 0x800000000000000e MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list  Afterwards, the installation begins normally and once it finishes my computer freezes for 2 minutes and shows the following messages:  https://imgur.com/a/W3Y7dcB  I power off the pc and try to run Ubuntu but it doesn't work.  I have a Hp Pavilion Power Laptop 15-cb0xx and I've tried re
[15:28] <mrblacknuel> I also attach pics of my BIOS Configuration: https://imgur.com/a/tBtKT8X
[15:28] <ioria> mrblacknuel, have tried what ?
[15:29] <mrblacknuel> ioria: I've tried resetting the BIOS configuration and made sure Safe boot was disabled but anything worked.
[15:33] <ioria> mrblacknuel,  what happens now when you try to boot ubuntu ?
[15:34] <mrblacknuel> ioria: When I boot Ubuntu the boot screen loads but after 30 sec it shows a black screen and freezes without no message
[15:35] <ioria> mrblacknuel,  and after it freezes, can you open a  console  with ctrl+alt+fx ?
[15:37] <ioria> mrblacknuel,  you have a GeForce GTX 1050  so might be a video driver issue
[15:37] <mrblacknuel> ioria: No, I can't open a console
[15:37] <catbeard> how do i get firefox to not show it's top tab row when i have tree style tabs installed?
[15:38] <ioria> mrblacknuel,  try the 'nomodeset' parameter maybe
[15:38] <ioria> !nomodeset | mrblacknuel
[15:40] <mrblacknuel> ioria: so if I try with that parameter, will I be able to boot?
[15:40] <ioria> mrblacknuel, i don't know for sure, but no harm .   the 'MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list'  msg it's not very relevant (i got it too)
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> catbeard: that sounds like a great question to try on google
[15:42] <mrblacknuel> ioria: where is the manual to use nomodeset command in grub?
[15:43] <Hamilton> How can I choose ALT + SHIFT as shortcut for changing languages?
[15:44] <Hamilton> It doesn't let me just choose those 2 buttons so I'm adding 'c' for the moment.
[15:44] <ioria> mrblacknuel,  when gurb appears , select 'Ubuntu', press 'e', go to the 'linux'line and add , after quiet splash, nomodeset . https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjsr8CzuvncAhWQsKQKHYmCDR8QjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F162075%2Fmy-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it&psig=AOvVaw0RBahpRbU2ysFOS6WKtVJ_&ust=153477
[15:44] <ioria><PHONE_NUMBER>
[15:45] <crga> Hi all, I have recently installed ubuntu 18.04.01 on my newly bought laptop. Currently my touchpad is not working at all. Tried the obvious stuff like installing synaptics but no results yet. Anyone could help me out?
[15:45] <ioria> mrblacknuel, sorry;  https://i.stack.imgur.com/0Cfhc.png
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> Hamilton: Alt and Shift are modifier keys... the short cut interpreter needs a final non-modifier key to execute the proper command
[15:46] <pragmaticenigma> crga: You will need to narrow down what specifially isn't working or preventing you from using your computer. Your question is very broad and difficult to being troubleshooting.
[15:47] <crga> pragmaticenigma: okay. I have no idea how to narrow it down other than saying new laptop, new install and touchpad not working. As in, it does nothing.
[15:47] <Hamilton> crga, sudo ubuntu-bug touchpad?
[15:47] <mrblacknuel> ioria: so I should add nomodeset after quiet splash and boot it?
[15:47] <ioria> mrblacknuel, yes
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> apologies... I didn't catch the touchpad part
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> !info ubuntu-bug
[15:48] <ioria> mrblacknuel, press F10 or ctrl+x
[15:48] <mrblacknuel> ioria: I try and see if it works, thank you
[15:48] <ioria> gl
[15:48] <crga> pragmaticenigma: np.  also, Hamilton that says there is no bug report for it
[15:49] <kuberon> Hello
[15:49] <Hamilton> crga, I'm n00b myself. No that utility has a GUI step by step guide
[15:49] <kuberon> I have smart of a HDD that has problems writing stuff
[15:50] <kuberon> Clonezilla saving disk image will hang, partclone going super slow and grinds to a halt
[15:50] <Hamilton> crga, never mind it seems it's related to bug report
[15:50] <leonardus> How do I make sure I'm using my GPU and not integrated graphics?
[15:51] <leonardus> Because I don't know if it's just GNOME, but everything has been really slow recently.
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> kuberon: This channel is dedicated to Ubuntu support, you will need to seek out a Clonezilla channel for help with that application
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> kuberon: side bar, a drive having difficulty writing, sounds like a drive failing and to disconinue using it
[15:52] <kuberon> I tried REISUB and when doing U command it was looping through ata2 errors
[15:53] <kuberon> yeah I was in ##linux but I can't type there unidentified im on ubuntu right now, not on windows 10 normally
[15:54] <kuberon> just wanted to post smart of the WD HDD if anyone takes a quick look at it, much appreciated, before I run any smart tests, it could be sata cable or sata port ofcourse, no idea yet
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> kuberon: most rooms require you to register to speak. but as I mentioned earlier, we're not a support channel for hardware or clonezilla.
[15:55] <kuberon> did stuff like that in the past here without anyone bothering
[15:55] <pragmaticenigma> !register | kuberon follow this and find the correct room please:
[15:56] <leonardus> What is going on here? Why is it so slow?! https://streamable.com/s1ylr
[15:56] <Guest48139> LRH OFFICIAL: We are not spamming you | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utMUBnl3nk
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> leonardus: Please do not post random links in channel with out explaining what the link is for
 Because I don't know if it's just GNOME, but everything has been really slow recently.
[15:57] <leonardus> It's been acting slow recently and I'm trying to figure out why.
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> leonardus: Your question is really general, it doesn't appear that anyone is here that can help at the moment. I personally don't know where to begin with that support issue.
[15:59] <newguy> I am new to IRC, and have a technical question about netfilter service and systemd at boot time in ubuntu 18.04.1 desktop. Is this the place to ask?
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | newguy
[16:01] <BluesKaj> newguy, in short , yes, this the place :-)
[16:03] <newguy> OK .. here goes. My ubuntu desktop 18.04.1 boots with populated iptables whose nat table contains a SNAT rule. I did not put it in and have to delete it before I can connect my ovpn client. There is no rules.v4 for persistent. Where is this being picked up from?
[16:14] <pragmaticenigma> newguy:  did you install any network monitoring applications? or infosec tools?
[16:23] <chingus> installed tvheadend, its running in a snap, any way to run, without being in a snap?
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> chingus: unless it's available in the Ubuntu Software center with an option for regular install, the answer would be no


[20:10] <Teridon> having a mostly-cosmetic issue but I'm highly confused.  when I build my system with autoinstall, the /usr disk mount point is under the "by-id" tree instead of the simple LVM part for it.  the other filesystems are fine, only /usr is like this:  https://dpaste.org/UJPf1
[20:10] <Teridon> auto-created fstab:  https://dpaste.org/kmcbo
[20:14] <sarnold> heh that *is* confusing; that feels like it's worth a bug report