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[15:56] <TheForgottenArch> it has /boot/
[15:56] <TheForgottenArch> then /efi/
[15:56] <TheForgottenArch> then /EFI/
[15:56] <daftykins> please try spamming on less lines
[15:56] <TheForgottenArch> I'm wondering why ubuntu made two EFI folders
[15:56] <TheForgottenArch> daftykins: I won't do it again, sorry.
[15:57] <sl1rpy> im trying to disable compiz by using this article http://ksearch.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/disable-unity-animations/ but there is no experimental tab...
[15:57] <Shadow_aok> i got some input with xinput
[15:57] <sl1rpy> so how do i disable compiz w/o the experimental tab? or am i looking in the wrong place?
[15:58] <xangua> sl1rpy: you do not disable compiz in unity
[16:00] <sl1rpy> xangua, then what do i turn off to improve gaming performance?
[16:01] <xangua> get a better video card, use a not demanding desktop enviroment
[16:02] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U, or k1l I'm back and have more records if you want the challenge :) If not, no problem - I'm running Lubuntu from the ext hdd btw
[16:04] <oeri> anyone know of a good app to stretch a window to a specified size? i have a 640x480-only game that I am trying to make larger on my 16:9 screen but without losing the aspect ratio
[16:05] <daftykins> oeri: why not just use the alt-menu resize, then use the cursor keys to go one down, one right... etc
[16:05] <Nahita> Hi guys, can some one please help me with something.
[16:06] <oeri> daftykins: i am trying to build a standalone touchscreen system. would like it to be resized to this by default when the game launches. is this possible?
[16:06] <Nahita> sudo chcon -u system_u -t system_conf_t /etc/sysconfig/myiptables-*
[16:06] <daftykins> oeri: no idea.
[16:06] <Nahita> just gives me: chcon: can't apply partial context to unlabeled file
[16:06] <oeri> daftykins: thanks anyway
[16:08] <ubuntourist> Playing with things I have no business playing with. Can anyone offer insights into making rabbitmq-server work with systemd?
[16:08] <nmatrix9> sacarlson1:  The rsync command you gave,  Iam getting permission denied errors (13)
[16:09] <nmatrix9> sacarlson1: sudo rsync -av --progress /mnt/source /mnt/destination
[16:10] <nmatrix9> sacarlson1: It copied every single directory . . . but with no files in it.
[16:10] <on247> Hi
[16:11] <on247> Anyway to install a virtual sound card to my headless server?
[16:11] <on247> the idea is to have sound redirect to my client computer
[16:11] <daftykins> on247: and why would there be sound on a headless server?
[16:12] <on247> Because said server is using for web surfing
[16:12] <on247> document editing .. etc
[16:12] <jhutchins_wk> on247: Supposedly pulseaudio can do that.  Details unknown.
[16:13] <on247> I have Xpra setup and its nice for using always on desktop
[16:13] <on247> * as a always on desktop
[16:14] <on247> my idea is what Xvfb does for video but for audio
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> nmatrix9: So what do you need to understand?  The user running the command doesn't have read permissions on the files.
[16:25] <nmatrix9> jhutchins_wk: Iam running the rsync command as sudo I thought that would avoid that issue.
[16:27] <johnny_bravo> hey guys
[16:27] <johnny_bravo> anyone knows if there is a way to trigger something on oom-killer event?
[16:33] <jhutchins_wk> nmatrix9: How are you mounting the devices?
[16:37] <nmatrix9> jhutchins_wk: sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt
[16:38] <nmatrix9> jhutchins_wk: sudo mount //<ip>/upload on /mnt/netshare type cifs
[16:39] <Senji> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/kmem bs=1 count=1 seek=$RANDOM
[16:39] <oiio> How can i install ubuntu minimal on a USB when i try the usb doesnt show u... pls help
[16:40] <acer> nmatrix9: Too many hypotheticals.  The remote one mounted /mnt/netshare is NFS?
[16:42] <nmatrix9> acer: too many hypotheticals?  I am accessing the mounted devices.  And yes it is NFS.
[16:42] <acer> nmatrix9: And you say it only creates empty directories on the remote PC?
[16:43] <acer> nmatrix9: Are you sure it is mounted?  (look at the output of mount)
[16:43] <therue> theoretically if i end up using a lot of swap it'll put a lot of wear and tear on my ssd right?
[16:44] <_Trullo> yes
[16:45] <acer> nmatrix9: The bottom line is that the command you gave should have worked.  I see no reason why it didn't, (unless as jhutchins_wk suggestes, something is not mounted properly, or where you think it is).
[16:45] <acer> I must go now.
[16:46] <jhutchins_wk> nmatrix9: You need to determine what permissions on those mouted filesystems are.
[16:47] <therue> i guess i wont put a /swap partition for my linux install then
[16:47] <therue> i got 16 gigs of ram anyway
[16:49] <nmatrix9> jhutchins_wk: all those mount points mentioned have rw
[16:53] <azus> Hi everybody
[16:54] <daftykins> hi
[16:54] <tytan> Is there a Hotspot option in Ubuntu 14.04.1 so that I can share my ethernet connection with my phone?
[16:54] <daftykins> yes, via network manager
[16:54] <tytan> daftykins found it. thank you
[16:54] <daftykins> np
[16:55] <usr13> nmatrix9: Look at the files you are trying to copy, see if they are real files.
[16:59] <nmatrix9> usr13 they are real files
[16:59] <nmatrix9> man rsync is not easy for me.  I can actually just copy and paste the files in gnome file browser
[17:06] <sacarlson1> nmatrix9: you can also try a simple cp -a /from/path /to/path  ;  but I would think rsync would have also worked.  are premisions setup ok on your nfs mounted disk?  try right small part to see if it working
[17:08] <nmatrix9> sacarlson1: yeah that's a good idea it's failing on rsync: chown "/mnt/destination/somefile" failed Permission denied (13)
[17:11] <nmatrix9> sacarlson Iam wondering if during the rsync I have to explicitly login as a user from the NFS?
[17:12] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: e.g. sudo rsync -avzP /mnt/source /mnt/destination u=loginUserName?  Or something like that?
[17:12] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: I'm not sure, on my nfs I had very low security but I guess it's optional that you can add it
[17:13] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: can't you see file on the nfs mount?  just try touch or create a file to see if you can
[17:13] <GangsterTogo> hey er der en dansker der kan hjelpe mig
[17:13] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: already did yes I can create files on the nfs mount
[17:13] <nmatrix9> just rsync goes fubar during transfer
[17:13] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: ok if you can create one then you should be able to move many just as easy
[17:15] <michael_ptasz> can anyone help me with sound not working on speakers after updating to 14.10
[17:15] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: try cp -a  see if that works.  maybe some intermitent network problems.  are you wifi?
[17:15] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: no wired
[17:16] <GangsterTogo> i have  a problen  i just install ubuntu whit wubi and after i reboot it say systen is writprotect and wont update what cant i do
[17:17] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: and you tried sudo cp -a or sudo rsync -a ?  maybe root is not allowed on your nfs
[17:17] <michael_ptasz> after updating to 14.10 my sound doesnt work on my speakers but yet my head phones work and this is on a laptop
[17:18] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: and if your using just a standard user then cp -a would have problems since it will keep the user:group of the file from the original
[17:19] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: I think I found the solution a missing -r
[17:19] <sacarlson> michael I think there is a separate volume that controls the speakers and headphones
[17:20] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: -r recursive  ?   -a also does recusive
[17:20] <nmatrix9> I redid the rsync -arvp --progress /mnt/source /mnt/destination and Iam no longer getting the permission denied
[17:26] <Mixxit> hey guys
[17:26] <Mixxit> anyone know a nice wiki platform than mediawiki
[17:26] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: oh wait I think it did go through successfully I was looking in the wrong directory : /
[17:26] <Mixxit> something for internal use
[17:27] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: ha ha cool
[17:27] <OerHeks> !info moinmoin
[17:28] <OerHeks> oh
[17:28] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: man I feel a little dumb right now.
[17:28] <antons_> ceph vs zfs
[17:29] <GangsterTogo> help i just install ubuntu from wubi and when i reboot to ubuntu it say serious error  ware found while cheking the disk drive for /  i can pus (i for ignore ) and (s for skip ) or (m for manual recovery ) what shal i
[17:31] <bubbasaures> GangsterTogo, Wubi is not really supported, we would suggest a dualboot here.
[17:32] <GangsterTogo> bubbasaures i just use it to install it
[17:33] <bubbasaures> GangsterTogo, It is a file in windows, not a standard install not very stable either.
[17:33] <GangsterTogo> bubbasaures i am at the ubuntu loding
[17:34] <hotsatellite> GangsterTogo, windows 8?
[17:34] <GangsterTogo> hotsatellite win 7
[17:36] <GangsterTogo> hotsatellite i think it bc it is write proctet on the file
[17:37] <AkashicLegend> any image files to use this with vmware/vbox
[17:37] <Kirsch> how would i check to see what configure options are used with a ubuntu package?
[17:37] <Kirsch> i want to see what options are used for apache as an example
[17:37] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: the -a perserves permissions correct?
[17:38] <asdfasdafas> is it possible to specify a preseed file path on the commandline?
[17:38] <GangsterTogo> hotsatellite you kno what i shal do
[17:39] <asdfasdafas> im using virt-install and injecting one into the initrd with --initrd-inject derp.cfg
[17:39] <hotsatellite> GangsterTogo, no sorry
[17:39] <asdfasdafas> but if I also specify --extra-args "audo presseed/file=/derp.cfg" it doesn't load the preseed
[17:39] <GangsterTogo> hotsatellite: hmm
[17:39] <asdfasdafas> ifi name it preseed.cfg it obviously works
[17:41] <flipapy> can i run a second desktop env on tty8?
[17:42] <TheBigDeal> Hello
[17:42] <TheBigDeal> is there a way to install 'ia32-libs' in utopic?
[17:45] <TheBigDeal> any help
[17:45] <nmatrix9> sacarlson: Ok Iam a little nervous here everything that I've rsynced is locked and non-readable
[18:02] <bencc> I'm starting firefox from the command line. how can I wait for it to be ready before I'm trying to get its window id?
[18:02] <bencc> bash -c 'echo "firefox" >> /.bashrc'
[18:05] <trijntje> bencc: probably the easiest is to use 'sleep'
[18:06] <trijntje> or if you want to do it properly, put sleep in a while loop that exits when you get a valid window id
[18:08] <MattoMako> Hey! question, I basicly want to install a program but apt-get gets me the wrong version
[18:08] <MattoMako> how would I change the version it's getting
[18:09] <dm7freek> Is there any issue with putting the ip and hostname of localhost in /etc/hosts  (not literally 'localhost', but what would be returned from ifconfig and/or hostname)
[18:14] <Neozonz> so i'm reading some articles on tracing procs/stuff but the command alot of them use is 'dtrace -n arguments' but if I man dtrace I see no such argument...
[18:14] <Neozonz> has this argument changed or something
[18:31] <TheBigDeal> What's the best way to install netbeans in ubuntu utopic?
[18:43] <hyde> TheBigDeal: "best" is quite relative term... But I personally prefer to install things like IDEs to my homedir, both to be able to stay at latest version over long time, and to avoid accidental updates when I don't want to break anything
[18:52] <TheBigDeal> hyde, How can i install netbeans?
[18:54] <TheBigDeal> hyde, have you an idea?
[18:55] <hyde> Yes. My idea would be to type "netbeans" in browser address bar, let google dig netbeans web site for me, go there, find downloads, and so on...
[18:55] <hyde> TheBigDeal: ^
[18:56] <saki`> hey all
[18:56] <TheBigDeal> hyde, I did everything and i got an error like this Most probably the bundled JVM is not compatible with the current platform.
[18:57] <TheBigDeal> 'Most probably the bundled JVM is not compatible with the current platform.
[18:57] <TheBigDeal> '
[18:58] <DJones> TheBigDeal: Its not something I've used or know anything about, but netbeans is in the ubuntu repo's, so presumably sudo apt-get install netbeans will install it
[18:58] <DJones> TheBigDeal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/netbeans
[18:59] <TheBigDeal> DJones, an old version in default repo, and actually it didn't work for me after updating to utopic
[18:59] <saki`> i'm getting a recurring error on my machine, a c720 with ubuntu 14.04, here's the exact error. any help would be appreciated, I can't seem to figure out what to do: http://pastebin.com/ixXfvP4r
[19:00] <HeyMan7> Ok. Anyone know how to set the default monitor in Ubuntu 14.10. I have a dual monitor setup where my main monitor is on the right with the laptop screen (as a second monitor) is on the left. Things always open on the laptop screen, however. I'd like everything to open on my main monitor on the right.
[19:02] <TheBigDeal> DJones, that is netbeans 7.0.1 the current version is 8.0.1
[19:02] <ubunfu> HeyMan7: If you have the unity bar on both monitors, the window will open up on the monitor in which you clicked it.
[19:02] <TheBigDeal> !netbeans
[19:03] <TheBigDeal> !java
[19:03] <HeyMan7> ubunfu: Yeah, I clicked the icon on the unity bar on the main monitor but it still opens on the laptop.
[19:04] <ubunfu> HeyMan7: Open the displays menu in System Settings.  Click on one of your monitors, and you might see a check box with something like: "Main Display" or something to that effect.
[19:06] <TheBigDeal> ubunfu, any idea?
[19:06] <TheBigDeal> !eclipse
[19:06] <TheBigDeal> !ide
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | TheBigDeal
[19:06] <plambwk> should i install openjdk or oracle jdk
[19:07] <sarbs> i've just changed my uid and gid via root and recovery mode, including chown'ing all my files to the new uid/gid. i can log in perfectly via ssh, but the gui now only lists "Guest Session". is there something else i need to modify in order to update the login screen with my new uid?
[19:08] <ubunfu> TheBigDeal, i'm having trouble following your conversation, what's going on?
[19:08] <HeyMan7> ubunfu: this is my display's dialogue: http://i.imgur.com/h3MVx0q.png I don't see anything about a main display.
[19:09] <qwertyserver> Hello
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | HeyMan7
[19:09] <TheBigDeal> ubunfu, Looking for a way to install netbeans 8.0.1 in utopic?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> !info netbeans | TheBigDeal
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[19:11] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, 8.0.1
[19:11] <kodadiirem> me
[19:11] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, yours is 7.0.1
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: why do you need this version exactly?
[19:12] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, Because it is the latest version
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: for utopic 7.0.1 is the latest
[19:12] <kodadiirem> exit
[19:13] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, 7.0.1 doesn't even want to open
[19:13] <ubunfu> TheBigDeal, I take it you've found that the script they give here doesn't work?: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-netbeans-jsp-142931.html
[19:13] <TheBigDeal> ubunfu, yes
[19:14] <TheBigDeal> ubunfu, got an error
[19:15] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, a lot of errors when running it do you want a paste?
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: sure pastebin away
[19:17] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9129615/
[19:17] <iscorpion> how can we share wired connection wirelessly using infrastructe mode?
[19:19] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, what have you got?
[19:20] <mmiller13> does anyone know how to change the mac address through terminal?
[19:20] <mmiller13> does anyone know how to change the mac address through terminal?
[19:20] <mmiller13> does anyone know how to change the mac address through terminal?
[19:21] <qwertyserver> Everytime I try to reach my web-server from the internet with my ddns-address (plantbaserat.ddns.net) the address-field in my web-browser change to my server's local ip-address (<IP_ADDRESS>). Why is that? Locally it works just fine. What settings am I missing?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | mmiller13
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: well im no java expert, but a lot of forums say its a classpath error
[19:22] <ubunfu> HeyMan7, try only setting the launcher to the screen you want as your primary...this seems to work for me...
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: maybe this can help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837916
[19:22] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, I can obviously see that, but what's the solution
[19:23] <ubunfu> HeyMan7, the primary display checkbox was a thing in 12.x, but I guess they nixed it
[19:23] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, I'll reinstall it again
[19:23] <GangsterTogo> i need to edit /etc/grub.d/10_lupin but i cant change it can som one help
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> GangsterTogo: sudo gedit yourfile
[19:24] <dae-> Salut ├Ā tous, je suis sous Lubuntu 14.10 sur un HP , je n'arrive plus ├Ā afficher lŌĆÖic├┤ne r├®seau (wifi et eth0) par d├®faut, quelqu'un a une id├®e ? (une mode retour par d├®faut ? )                   Hello to everybody, I am under Lubuntu 14.10 on a HP, I do not any more manage to post(show) the network icon (WiFi and eth0) by default, somebody has an idea? (A fashion return by default?)
[19:24] <GangsterTogo> # but it wont lat me save it
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> TheBigDeal: maybe the ##java guys might also know whats wrong
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !fr | dae-
[19:25] <DrDroid> hi
[19:25] <GangsterTogo> lotuspsychje  it wil not save
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> dae-: lubuntu has a known bug to sometimes not start network applet
[19:26] <dae-> lotuspsychje please open your eyes =) i have translate
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> dae-: try to start it from your startup applications
[19:26] <TheBigDeal> lotuspsychje, Okay i think that i got the problem
[19:26] <dae-> no i have network
[19:26] <dae-> but i have a ugly icone
[19:26] <dae-> i need the default icone
[19:26] <mmiller13> So there isn't a file I could edit to change the mac address? Does ifconfig allow you to change the  addy?
[19:27] <dae-> mmiller13 me ?
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> dae-: you can try the #lubuntu guys also
[19:29] <HeyMan7> lotuspsychje: then, how do you set a default display with xrandr 1.2?
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> HeyMan7: not sure, never used myself try man xrandr
[19:31] <dae-> Some times(weathers) ago I had the icon by default but recently I have to modify my dashboard and the icon disappeared, I was obliged of added the really ugly icon for found a fast access
[19:31] <lapion> so who was the annoyed escalator at around 15:00 today ?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> lapion: ?
[19:31] <lapion> someone was shouting in the channel.. ;-)
[19:33] <lapion> nvm was a flooder
[19:34] <cyber37-unregist> Hi guy's ! omg i have install QT on a new ubuntu and i have a problem that i had in the PAST with an application in my other computers ! The title bar is not working goodly and i know it's because of the damn ubuntu systems who try to "do like a machintosh" ... I know there is a paquet to install for make it working but i don't remmeber the name ..
[19:34] <Blaster> How come when I right click inside my secondary HDD in nautilus, ŌĆ£new folderŌĆØ is grayed out from the context menu?
[19:35] <DrManhattan> Who spoke my name?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: what partition is your hd formatted?
[19:35] <phunyguy> DrManhattan: was some flooding going on. Please disregard.
[19:35] <DrManhattan> All good
[19:35] <cyber37-unregist> G
[19:35] <cyber37-unregist> sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev
[19:36] <sarbs> i've just changed my uid and gid via root and recovery mode, including chown'ing all my files to the new uid/gid. i can log in perfectly via ssh, but the gui now only lists "Guest Session". is there something else i need to modify in order to update the login screen with my new uid? how does ubuntu determine which users to show on the graphical login screen?
[19:36] <cyber37-unregist> sudo apt-get install appmenu-qt  ***
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> sarbs: check /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf maybe
[19:38] <theptr> hi, i have an ubuntu server and i wanted to install owncloud but something was going wrong and apache2 was broken so i dit purge apache2 and auto remove
[19:38] <theptr> now i installed it again but no web interface
[19:38] <sarbs> lotuspsychje just did, nothing that'd block my user.. minimum-uid=500 (set mine to 501), neither hidden-users and hidden-shells list 'sarbs' (weird if they did)
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: try gksudo nautilus and check if you can create a folder
[19:38] <sarbs> that's users.conf rather, lightdm.conf doesn't have anyting relevant either tho
[19:38] <sarbs> users.conf does make mention of AccountsService tho, checking into that
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> sarbs: do you have a space for login a user?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> sarbs: or just the guest
[19:39] <sarbs> oh f*ck it appears to be an AccountsService bug
[19:40] <trism> sarbs: you can enable manual login on lightdm in lightdm.conf, [SeatDefaults] then greeter-show-manual-login=true
[19:41] <sarbs> trism i'll try that, i like that idea better anyway
[19:41] <trism> sarbs: I think you need 1000+ uid to show up in the greeter, I don't think it respects minimum-uid
[19:41] <sarbs> yeah that was what i had just started reading about
[19:42] <sarbs> great success!
[19:42] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, that worked.  So the permissions aren't correct.
[19:42] <sarbs> trism that worked perfectly, and i like it better than having my user listed right there anyway. thanks
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: this is an ntfs hd?
[19:42] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, not sure, how do I check?
[19:42] <HeyMan7> Why is it so hard to set a fricking default monitor.. Why did they change it?
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: sudo fdisk -l
[19:44] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, says type is linux.
[19:44] <Blaster> I think I formatted it to ext3.
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: strange you cant create folder then on ext3
[19:45] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, sudo works though.
[19:46] <Blaster> So I just have to set permissions on the mount point.
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: yes, you might check your fstab
[19:46] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, that one isn't in /etc/fstab, I think it just mounts itself?
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: when did you format this partition? or is it an older one from other linux version?
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Blaster: maybe gparted can help you reformat partition, see what it does after reboot
[19:50] <Blaster> lotuspsychje, just a few days ago since I installed Ubuntu 14.10.
[19:52] <rihbyne> guys, 2 days ago I used groupadd to create a new group and added myself(admin) to it using usermod  without -a option. now I am unable to access sudo.I tried solutions from the web,but still I am unable to do sudo apt-get update. link http://pastebin.com/gnLzciTy
[19:53] <emx> is there a login for ubuntu core rootfs?
[19:53] <emx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[19:53] <rihbyne> I used this solution but didnt work out http://www.maketecheasier.com/fixing-sudo-error-in-ubuntu/
[19:53] <emx> (a known one, that is)
[19:54] <ikonia> emx: you set the password on it
[19:55] <emx> ikonia, is there a smart way except editing /etc/shadow?
[19:55] <ikonia> emx: chroot and set it ?
[19:56] <emx> ikonia, the architecture is arm and i got no running linux on arm
[19:56] <mmiller13> how do I kill wlan0 if it's busy?
[19:56] <teaearlgraycold> Is it a bad idea to have a PHP frontend interact with a Python backend via SQL?
[19:56] <teaearlgraycold> Like - passing commands via SQL
[19:57] <ikonia> emx: I doubt that
[19:57] <ikonia> emx: as ubuntu core is for x86
[19:58] <emx> ikonia, many architectures are supported, not only x86
[19:59] <Neozonz> so i'm reading some articles on tracing procs/stuff but the command alot of them use is 'dtrace -n arguments' but if I man dtrace I see no such argument...
[19:59] <ikonia> emx: the documentation shows how to use it
[20:00] <dorkusmaximus> I installed ubuntu and it went fine. Then I tried to install Windows 7 for dual boot, but it said I couldn't because Windows wont install on a GPT. So I erased the entire disk and installed Windows 7. Now when I try to reinstall Ubuntu, it won't even see the Windows partition and thinks there are no other operating systems installed. I've done this dual boot a couple years ago with no trouble like this. Whats going on?
[20:00] <ZerOlegend> how do i get grub to not autoboot?
[20:00] <ZerOlegend> not sure what file to edit
[20:00] <emx> ikonia, i must be blind. i don't see how...
[20:00] <rihbyne> guys any ideas on my problem ?
[20:01] <ikonia> emx: the simple method would be to just edit the password/shadow/group file in line with wht's suggested
[20:02] <emx> ikonia, in which chapter do you see that described? i got no hits searching for shadow...
[20:02] <squinty> dorkusmaximus:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:02] <ikonia> emx: that's not in the guide
[20:03] <metallic> ZerOlegend, what do you mean exactly?
[20:03] <ikonia> emx: it says "set the users passwords"
[20:03] <ikonia> emx: how you do it, is how you best feel you can
[20:03] <emx> ikonia, well, i can't at all because i don't know how...
[20:04] <ZerOlegend> nevermind metallic i just had to edit /etc/default/grub
[20:04] <ZerOlegend> change the hide option to false
[20:04] <ikonia> emx: so you don't know how to add a user, but you're trying to make a custom linux build
[20:04] <metallic> did it work?
[20:04] <ikonia> emx: that seems like the wrong way around, learning the basics before trying to make custom distros seems a more sensible approach
[20:04] <metallic> I mean, are you sure you didn't touch anything potentially dangerous XD? ZerOlegend
[20:05] <ZerOlegend> positive
[20:05] <ZerOlegend> was on the ubuntu forum
[20:05] <metallic> good luck then :D
[20:06] <emx> ikonia, quite a daring assumption that i don't know how to add a user.
[20:06] <ikonia> emx: I asked you said "I don't know how"
[20:07] <ikonia> emx: so based on you saying "I don't know how" I assume you don't know how
[20:07] <emx> ikonia, ... how to do it by editing /etc/shadow
[20:07] <emx> in contract to chrooting and using useradd
[20:07] <ikonia> emx: again - that is the basics of understanding the system - you should learn this stuff before trying to make custom distros in my opinion
[20:08] <emx> ikonia, name me a program that generates the iteration-hash-salt string that i can place after the first colon and i will do it.
[20:09] <ikonia> emx: openssl ?
[20:09] <emx> let's see
[20:10] <emx> the example i found uses md5. crap my pants.
[20:10] <ikonia> emx: ?
[20:11] <emx> ikonia, openssl passwd -1
[20:11] <emx> -1 means: use md5
[20:11] <ikonia> so don't use that option
[20:11] <ikonia> openssl has many options
[20:12] <emx> i don't see a heavy duty hash function in the openssl passwd help screen
[20:12] <dorkusmaximus> this is frustrating. why is it so hard to make a bootable ubuntu usb drive
[20:12] <emx> only -crypt but no closer description for it
[20:12] <ikonia> there is more documentation than that
[20:13] <hyde> dorkusmaximus: use unetbootin, that works...
[20:13] <hyde> also in windows
[20:13] <dorkusmaximus> thanks
[20:13] <servernode> Trying to get my web-server to identify itself as my domain-address. Anyone knows how?
[20:13] <dorkusmaximus> will try
[20:13] <ikonia> servernode: what do you mean ?
[20:13] <rberg_> emx: I just tuned in.. can you use mkpasswd ?
[20:13] <emx> rberg_, checking
[20:14] <rberg_> try 'mkpasswd --method=help'
[20:15] <emx> rberg_, i see weak hash algos only
[20:15] <emx> des, md5, sha-256 and -512
[20:15] <rberg_> is SHA-256 weak these days?
[20:15] <rberg_> or 512
[20:16] <servernode> ikonia: When I try to access my webpage over the internet from a different external IP with the domain-address (plantbaserat.ddns.net) the browser then just shows my server's internal IP (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[20:16] <ikonia> servernode: your webserver needs to listen on the host headers of that domain
[20:16] <emx> rberg_, i would prefer aes or something
[20:17] <emx> rberg_, it gives me a start anyways. as soon as i booted and logged in i can simply use passwd to use system default's hash algo.
[20:17] <emx> thanks
[20:18] <rberg_> good luck!
[20:18] <emx> thanks
[20:19] <emx> and there i am being root ^^
[20:19] <servernode> ikonia: First time I really get any answers from someone here, thankful.
[20:19] <ikonia> no problem
[20:21] <timvisher> hello everyone. i'm trying to get connected to a wireless network but i've lost the ŌåæŌåō icon in the status bar (i told it to get rid of known notifications?) and i have no idea what do next. i edited the /etc/network/interfaces to include wlan0 and eth0 in auto, although that stalls ifup -a completely as it can't seem to dchp an address and won't advance beyond that point
[20:21] <timvisher> i was connected to the network at one point though.
[20:21] <hyde> emx: AES is block cipher, not a hash function... and I think it doesn't make a very good hash function even if you try to use it as one (feel free to correct me if I am wrong here, not really expert)
[20:21] <timvisher> i rebooted the box and i think that was the point when i lost the connection
[20:22] <timvisher> prior to loosing the ŌåæŌåō icon, i could click on it but all of the options were greyed out. any ideas?
[20:22] <timvisher> i'm using xubuntu with xfce if that makes any difference
[20:23] <timvisher> i think the ŌåæŌåō icon was in the 'Indicator Panel'?
[20:24] <dorkusmaximus> for some reason i cant get ubuntu to boot in anything other than UEFI mode
[20:24] <timvisher> as you can see i'm pretty green :\
[20:25] <hyde> timvisher: welcome to the wonderful world of network-manager ;). do not put any interfaces you wish to manage with network-manager to /etc/network/interfaces
[20:26] <hyde> timvisher: then, at least on my xubuntu, the network icon/whatever is part of "indicator plugin"
[20:27] <timvisher> hyde: ack, i'll fix some of that. i guess i start network-manager from a shell?
[20:27] <hyde> and, at least now that I am connect to a WLAN, it shows a wlan symbol (sector of "waves", or how should I describe it...)
[20:27] <timvisher> as an unrelated question, i enabled full-disk encryption, but the password entry field uses Qwerty. is there any way to set that to dvorak?
[20:28] <timvisher> hyde: i think i get what you mean
[20:28] <hyde> timvisher: left click the icon in the indicator plugin to get the right menu
[20:28] <timvisher> the encryption password is a minor inconvenience in comparison. a nethack deity wouldn't fix it for me ;)
[20:28] <timvisher> hyde: how would i go about getting the icon back into the indicator plugin?
[20:28] <hyde> from it you get to "edit connections", I think
[20:29] <hyde> timvisher: right click to get the menu, where you have "properties"
[20:29] <timvisher> prior to loosing the icon, i could see that but i not click on it
[20:29] <Jordan_U> dorkusmaximus: Why did you install Windows 7 for BIOS rather than for UEFI if your boot firmware is UEFI based?
[20:29] <hyde> there you can select what indicators the indicator plugin has
[20:30] <hyde> timvisher: of course you first need to find where the indicator plugin is, so you can right-click it ;)
[20:30] <dorkusmaximus> Jordan_U: I installed Ubuntu first on GPT, but Windows refused to install on GPT, so I had to erase the entire disk and start over with MBR
[20:31] <NeurOSick> hi
[20:31] <timvisher> hyde: so i have the Indicators Plugin Properties Panel open but I don't see a network icon anywhere
[20:31] <timvisher> i don't currently have anything hidden either
[20:32] <NeurOSick> How can I add a Facebook (weblink) on the Unity launcher on Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:32] <dorkusmaximus> all i want is dual boot ubuntu/win7. a couple years ago this was easy. but this uefi/bios shit is confusing the fuck out of me.
[20:32] <hyde> timvisher: hmm, I don't have it either...
[20:33] <timvisher> also, i'm runing 14.04, i believe
[20:34] <emx> hyde, well, basically there two types of hash functions: the fast ones calculating verification codes and slow ones calculating hashes for authentication. AES is a slow one (as of today)
[20:34] <timvisher> i also can't run network-manager, but apt-get reports it's installed
[20:34] <emx> (not an expert either)
[20:34] <timvisher> i've removed wlan0 and eth0 from interfaces
[20:35] <hyde> timvisher: one thing to try is apt-get purge network-manager, then install it back... just consider beforehand how you do the installation after removing network-manager ;)
[20:35] <hyde> timvisher: or the less sever way, dpkg-reconfigure network-manager #or something les
[20:35] <NeurOSick> nobody can help me on this subject (weblink on Unity launcher)?
[20:35] <hyde> else*
[20:35] <timvisher> oh sweet. i've got the icon back
[20:35] <timvisher> now it's claiming that Ethernet and Wireless are not managed
[20:36] <hyde> network-damager (as I like to call it) is something of a WTF, if you ask me... especially considering how long it has been around.
[20:36] <timvisher> but Edit is still not a thing
[20:37] <hyde> timvisher: what does the "Information" say?
[20:37] <hyde> for me, Edit is also grayed out... not entirely sure why. I still have this WLAN running though
[20:37] <timvisher> i installed gnome-shell and a bunch of stuff was installed with it, could that have screwed this up?
[20:38] <hyde> possible but somewhat unlikely, I think
[20:38] <Jordan_U> dorkusmaximus: OK, did you install Ubuntu for UEFI, or just install it for BIOS on GPT? Is your boot firmware UEFI or BIOS based?
[20:38] <timvisher> lol. i just purged and then realized that i need the network to redownload the packages...
[20:38] <hyde> timvisher:  at least I'd like to think it is unlikely :-p
[20:38] <Jordan_U> dorkusmaximus: Also, please watch your language in this channel.
[20:39] <timvisher> hmm... now i'm thinking i'm screwed...
[20:39] <hyde> timvisher: "just consider beforehand how you do the installation after removing network-manager ;)", I think I said some lines up...
[20:39] <timvisher> yep. i was considering it the whole time! ;)
[20:40] <timvisher> hmm... i've done very little to this box. i'm thinking maybe a full re-install would be the easiest way forward... but that always feels like an extremely embarassing defeat
[20:40] <ohmy> hi
[20:41] <ohmy> is there any dedicated ubuntu sdk channel please ?
[20:41] <hyde> timvisher: you could also look at network-manager configuration files
[20:41] <hyde> timvisher: or learn the network manager command line tool, and see if you can do configuration with it
[20:41] <timvisher> hyde: where do they reside?
[20:42] <hyde> timvisher: dpkg -L network-manager
[20:42] <hyde> might be helpful, at least
[20:42] <Jordan_U> timvisher: Is nm-applet running? "pgrep nm-applet"
[20:42] <timvisher> Jordan_U: 2000
[20:43] <Jordan_U> timvisher: OK, but you're still not seeing the applet?
[20:43] <timvisher> uninstall network-manager got rid of my icon though, which indicates maybe what it was :)
[20:43] <timvisher> Jordan_U: i was seeing it before i purged network-manager
[20:43] <hyde> timvisher: network-manager-gnome seems to be the package with nm-applet, in case you need to reinstall that explicitly
[20:44] <Ekarus> Hey, I know the graphic interface is by default in tty 7
[20:44] <Ekarus> But how do I get another tty to launch a graphical interface
[20:45] <Jordan_U> timvisher: OK, if you re-install network-manager-gnome and try to use the applet, what problem do you have?
[20:45] <Ekarus> When I do startx , it gives me a desktop and no way to do anything else, I cant even get to a terminal after that.
[20:45] <timvisher> lshw -C network lists my wireless interface. is there some way to just get it to turn on? or maybe it is on?
[20:45] <timvisher> Jordan_U: i can't reinstall because i have no connection. :)
[20:45] <Jordan_U> Ekarus: What is your end goal?
[20:45] <Timoty>  Hello all, how can I transform the value : 0.90. in 0.90 with sed ?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> timvisher: Have you tried?
[20:45] <timvisher> i may be able to get a wired connection going but given my success with the wireless my outlook is dismal
[20:46] <Ekarus> Jordan_U, to use tty as a seperate isolated workspace. I already use it to pkill hanged programs
[20:46] <timvisher> Jordan_U: yes. fails to resolve dns
[20:46] <hyde> if I wanted to run nodm from inittab, which doesn't exist in 14.04, how would I go about achieving the same thing?
[20:46] <hyde> in 14.04
[20:46] <hyde> should I be looking at upstart or at systemd?
[20:46] <davidwaldrop> hola I am a newby managing a legacy projecy.  We are using Hibernate 3.6.10 and I am pushing to upgrade to 4.3.7.  Any one have any idea on compatibility, rework effort, and/or benefits?
[20:47] <Timoty>  anyone ?
[20:47] <Timoty>  0.90. to 0.90 with sed command ?
[20:47] <Jordan_U> timvisher: Try "sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome --ignore-missing", which might allow you to install network-manager-gnome if the pacakge is still in your apt cache.
[20:48] <servernode> ikonia: Any tip on a guide/tutorial I can follow out there that helps me on what I asked about earlier? Have been searching for a while now but don't seem to know what to search for to find what fits my needs.
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Timoty: sed 's/0\.90\./0.90/'
[20:49] <hyde> Timoty: echo 0.90. | sed 's/\(.*\..*\)\./\1/'
[20:50] <timvisher> Jordan_U: nope. needs to download the .deb file. i could download it on another box i suppose
[20:50] <hyde> timvisher: you only have WLAN?
[20:51] <Vivekananda_y510> hello everyone. I installed mysql on ubuntu and then trying to install devstack on the same machine. The machine is a virtual box on vagrant -- ubuntu 14.04. During install I get (  http://pastie.org/9733077  )
[20:51] <ohmy> Ubuntu UI Toolkit installation page says to use ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa but this ppa is meant to be used with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and not 14.10 and i'm using 14.10 is there annother ppa dedicated to 14.10 please ?
[20:51] <hyde> timvisher:  you could also google how to connect to wlan from command line, that's handy knowledge (I don't remeber, but it wasn't rocket science, iirc)
[20:52] <hyde> timvisher: or if you have ethernet, then it's even easier
[20:53] <timvisher> hyde: yeah. i'm assuming i should be able to drop back to /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:54] <ohmy> frustrating
[20:55] <hyde> timvisher: not sure if you can really set up wlan with that...
[20:56] <hyde> timvisher: because you need the keys etc
[20:56] <timvisher> hyde: yeah. looks to be the case... http://askubuntu.com/questions/138472/how-do-i-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-network-using-the-command-line
[20:56] <Antonio_> Hello everybody! I need some help with the installation of ubuntu, anyone? :) Cheers!
[20:56] <hyde> timvisher: and just for one-time connect to a dhcp network, dhclient eth0 or whatever should do it.
[20:57] <hyde> timvisher: as long as the interface is not managed by network-damager, the connection will stay up until you reboot.
[20:57] <hyde> (and if it is, network-damager will reset it shortly, possibly breaking a download you just had time to get started)
[21:02] <maxvi> how can I install ffmpeg or avconv in ubuntu 14.04?
[21:03] <zertyu> heloo there
[21:03] <zertyu> i got a simple question
[21:04] <KIKEMON> :D
[21:04] <croberts> zertyu: whats your question
[21:04] <zertyu> i got a log file from called log.0.gz to log.89.gz i would like file all succed connexion
[21:05] <KIKEMON> hi, hola, ciao ya no me se m├Īs :D
[21:05] <constantin_mike> on ubuntu 14.04, i'm usb tethering internet connection from a samsung gt-i9060 (21mbps). on linux mint 15 it was working perfectly, on ubuntu 14.04 is working awful (long ping times, pages load extremely slow, almost like no connection). can anyone help?!
[21:05] <constantin_mike> i'm sure it's a driver / software problem
[21:06] <zertyu> unfortunately with zcat by doing zcat log[0-89].gz | grep succed i got records for november only it that normal ?
[21:06] <Guest89881> alguem a que tem noticias do hacker Zarolho ?
[21:06] <crito> hi, quick question. Trying to ssh into my server but get ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[21:06] <crito> any help would be great
[21:07] <Guest89881> est├Ī tudo of dele , TT , face , a page e o RC
[21:07] <croberts> zertyu: sorry i do not know, i tried looking online but could not find anything
[21:07] <hyde> crito: try the debug/verbose flags and see what it say. also, if you can, check the server logs.
[21:08] <hyde> crito: for example, if the server requires public key auth, and you don't have the key at the server, you can't log in
[21:08] <zertyu> OK THKX MANN
[21:08] <crito> cheers hyde
[21:09] <k1l> !es | Guest89881
[21:17] <circumvolant> anybody here do any video-editing on Ubuntu?
[21:18] <reisio> circumvolant: why do you ask? :p
[21:18] <circumvolant> that's a good question
[21:20] <reisio> I thought so
[21:22] <constantin_mike> on ubuntu 14.04, i'm usb tethering internet connection from a samsung gt-i9060 (21mbps). on linux mint 15 it was working perfectly, on ubuntu 14.04 is working awful (long ping times, pages load extremely slow, almost like no connection). can anyone help?!
[21:23] <circumvolant> reisio I'll stick with professional-quality.  thanks for the help!
[21:23] <ikonia> constantin_mike: look at what driver it is using to interface, look at the internet settings of the device within the two OS's, work on the differences
[21:23] <circumvolant> festering troll lol
[21:23] <ikonia> constantin_mike: ?
[21:23] <ikonia> oops
[21:23] <ikonia> circumvolant: ?
[21:25] <hyde> circumvent: I recently heard it's possible to use Blender to do video editing... do you know if it's any good for it?
[21:25] <Ekarus> Its pretty damn good
[21:26] <Ekarus> The compositor works just as good for video editing as it does for animation, and theres a couple of video editing specific stuff
[21:26] <hyde> Ekarus:  good to get confirmation
[21:27] <Ekarus> I think the later versions also have aids to help you do camera tracking from video so you can add in 3d stuff, but imo felt gimmiky
[21:34] <ZerOlegend> anyone around that can lend a hand with getting another distro added to grub in ubuntu? it is failing to work every darn method
[21:35] <javnut> I have a script which clicks some stuff in a virtual machine every minute or so
[21:35] <ikonia> ZerOlegend: I explained this to you earlier
[21:35] <javnut> but to do that, I have to switch to workspace 2 then click it, then switch back to my old workspace
[21:35] <ZerOlegend> i must of missed it when i lost my wifi connection
[21:35] <javnut> sufficed to say, it's really annoying. how do I fix this?
[21:36] <javnut> anyway to make like a virtual window of another desktop, or extend my desktop beyond what's visible?
[21:36] <k1l> ZerOlegend: run sudo update-grub
[21:37] <reisio_is_gay> I would like to thank reisio for welcoming me to the Ubuntu community by being a passive-aggressive troll.  I now know to stick with Microsoft and Adobe.  One less professional in the Ubuntu community!  Thanks reisio!  http://grab.by/CoEQ !
[21:37] <reisio_is_gay> I would like to thank reisio for welcoming me to the Ubuntu community by being a passive-aggressive troll.  I now know to stick with Microsoft and Adobe.  One less professional in the Ubuntu community!  Thanks reisio!  http://grab.by/CoEQ !!
[21:37] <reisio_is_gay> I would like to thank reisio for welcoming me to the Ubuntu community by being a passive-aggressive troll.  I now know to stick with Microsoft and Adobe.  One less professional in the Ubuntu community!  Thanks reisio!  http://grab.by/CoEQ !!!
[21:37] <reisio_is_gay> I would like to thank reisio for welcoming me to the Ubuntu community by being a passive-aggressive troll.  I now know to stick with Microsoft and Adobe.  One less professional in the Ubuntu community!  Thanks reisio!  http://grab.by/CoEQ !!!!
[21:37] <ZerOlegend> did all that k1l
[21:37] <reisio_is_gay> I would like to thank reisio for welcoming me to the Ubuntu community by being a passive-aggressive troll.  I now know to stick with Microsoft and Adobe.  One less professional in the Ubuntu community!  Thanks reisio!  http://grab.by/CoEQ !!!!!
[21:37] <ZerOlegend> it detects gentoo said it was updated but it never shows up in the grub.cfg
[21:37] <reisio> hahaha, aw I wasn't even watching for that
[21:37] <ikonia> ZerOlegend: the grub config needs to be rebuilt
[21:37] <ikonia> ZerOlegend: you'll find problems maintaining this though
[21:38] <ZerOlegend> im going to try a custom entry first before i dig into all that
[21:38] <ZerOlegend> been 3 hours i been farting around with this
[21:38] <ikonia> dig into all that ?
[21:38] <ikonia> what are you on about
[21:39] <ZerOlegend> i don't know anymore sorry
[21:42] <Ekarus> ...all that rage because someone said "Why do you ask?" with a smiley face?
[21:42] <Ekarus> By all means *please* stick with windows and adobe.
[21:42] <k1l> ZerOlegend: that is very uncommon, that a distro is not found by the grub update. so what special setup is that?
[21:42] <ikonia> Ekarus: by all means please drop it and stop trying to be-little windows users
[21:43] <ZerOlegend> nothing i followed the gentoo handbook all went well installing it from ubuntu in chroot
[21:43] <ZerOlegend> ran os-prober it detects gentoo and update-grub seees it but it never modifies grub.cfg
[21:44] <k1l> you are still in chroot then?
[21:44] <ZerOlegend> not at the moment
[21:44] <ZerOlegend> i can
[21:45] <ZerOlegend> brb trying to boot with a custom grub entry
[21:45] <ikonia> why boot with a custom grub entry ?
[21:45] <ikonia> what does that achieve ?
[21:46] <owen1> how to logout from the terminal?
[21:47] <RedPenguin> Anyone know if running smartctl is supposed to match up with "badblocks?" Badblocks is acting like my drive is ready for the grave but smartctl acts like it's ok
[21:47] <k1l> owen1: "exit" ?
[21:47] <owen1> k1l: logout back to the login screen
[21:47] <owen1> logout the session of my use
[21:47] <owen1> user
[21:47] <k1l> owen1: ctrl+alt+f7 if the xserver is already running.
[21:48] <owen1> k1l: i see black screen with tiny blinking line on the top left
[21:48] <k1l> owen1: ah, now i get you. you can restart the xserver with "sudo ligtdm restart" that will kick all user sessions on xserver
[21:48] <reisio> RedPenguin: they're both largely not worth using :)
[21:49] <owen1> k1l: liggtm - command not found
[21:49] <owen1> k1l: ligtdm - command not found
[21:49] <k1l> owen1: sorry "lightdm"
[21:50] <owen1> k1l: it's not doing anything (maybe since i started the session with i3 instead of gnome)
[21:50] <reisio> lightdm probably needs root, run directly
[21:51] <k1l> owen1: ok, i think there is more that you are actually telling us. what is the whole setup? did you start the desktop with startx? that is wrong on ubuntu
[21:51] <owen1> k1l: in the login screen, instead of chosing the default vm/de
[21:51] <owen1> i chose i3
[21:52] <k1l> and then?
[21:52] <k1l> what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:52] <owen1> k1l: i put my password, hit login or whatever the button said.
[21:52] <Vivekananda_y510> I am trying to run devstack on ubuntu 14.04. Can anyone help . The cursor is stuck on the last line . I am getting this http://pastie.org/9733249   and the cursor is stucck on the last line. Can anyone tell me what is happennign
[21:52] <owen1> 14.19
[21:52] <owen1> 14.10
[21:53] <k1l> which desktop?
[21:53] <owen1> k1l: the default is ubuntu but i use i3 now
[21:53] <owen1> (ubuntu desktop is still installed. all i did is 'apt-get install i3'.
[21:54] <k1l> owen1: you talked about gnome. so was it ubuntu mate, or ubuntu gnome edition?
[21:54] <owen1> k1l: ubuntu. the regular ubuntu
[21:54] <owen1> the one that is default on their website
[21:54] <k1l> owen1: ok, so "sudo lightdm restart" should do what you want to
[21:54] <ZerOlegend> i got it k1l  using a custom grub entry
[21:54] <ApoloDKool> Hello
[21:55] <owen1> k1l: nope. it's doing nothing. i can try running it with strace
[21:56] <k1l> owen1: are you in tty1?
[21:56] <owen1> k1l: no
[21:56] <k1l> owen1: than there is something more broken if lightdm is not starting. you could use start instead of restart
[21:57] <k1l> owen1: in what state are you now? you logged into i3 and then?
[21:57] <owen1> k1l: nothing happpned
[21:57] <owen1> k1l: yeah. logged into i3. and everything is great.
[21:57] <k1l> and now?
[21:57] <owen1> i just changed the config of i3 and want to logout
[21:57] <owen1> i can restat the machine but i want to learn how to logout.
[21:58] <owen1> i3 suppose to let me do 'mod+E' to log me out but it's not working.
[21:58] <RedPenguin> reisio: prob better to just use the drive maker's tool?
[21:58] <k1l> To logout, press Mod+shift+e (like exit)
[21:58] <reisio> RedPenguin: for what?
[21:58] <RedPenguin> reisio: to see if something is funky with this hard drive or it's some other issue
[21:58] <reisio> RedPenguin: the only way to know that for sure is to try with another drive
[21:58] <reisio> anything else is a serious waste of time
[21:59] <reisio> seriously
[21:59] <RedPenguin> yea I see what you mean
[21:59] <reisio> and if you think about it, I know you'll agree :)
[21:59] <owen1> k1l: my config for i3 is doesn't have any effect. is there a way to verify what is the current config that i3 is using?
[21:59] <reisio> RedPenguin: therefore the logical reaction to suspected your drive is going bad is always simply to replace it
[21:59] <reisio> every time, always
[21:59] <reisio> you always will need another drive, and time is precious
[21:59] <k1l> owen1: sorry, not familiar with i3
[22:00] <owen1> k1l: ok. thanks!
[22:00] <reisio> if it turns out it wasn't the drive, it doesn't matter, 'cause you'll always need another drive anyways
[22:00] <reisio> suspecting*
[22:04] <crazydiamond> Hi guys. What's command line name of that program? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[22:05] <k1l> crazydiamond: you mean for the GUI program or a upgrader for CLI?
[22:06] <Ekarus> so uh, any idea how to launch an extra GUI in a tty ?
[22:06] <Ekarus> startx gives me a desktop where I can do nothing but right click to create files and folders
[22:06] <k1l> extra gui?
[22:07] <genii> !info xnest
[22:07] <genii> That or xephyr
[22:12] <javnut> so I launched another x-window
[22:12] <javnut> but how can I get gnome-session to run in that window?
[22:12] <javnut> or anything that's kinda like a DE?
[22:13] <owen1> how to paste with the keyboard? i used to hit shift+insert but my new laptop (carbon x1) doesn't have insert key.
[22:13] <nopf> owen1: control-v is the usual. with shift also when used in a terminal
[22:14] <reisio> owen1: I bet it has an insert key, whether it's labelled or not
[22:14] <k1l> and dont paste thousands of lines into here :)
[22:14] <reisio> but ctrl+shift+v is simpler
[22:14] <owen1> ctrl+v prints ^V on my terminal (xterm)
[22:15] <nopf> owen1: control-v is the usual. with shift also when used in a terminal
[22:15] <reisio> read before you hit enter :)
[22:16] <owen1> reisio: ctrl+shift+v do nothing in my terminal
[22:16] <reisio> owen1: what terminal is that?
[22:16] <owen1> xterm
[22:17] <owen1> i got to find the inesrt key (:
[22:17] <owen1> shift+insert is super easy
[22:17] <owen1> or how to do right+left click
[22:17] <owen1> http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/thinkpad-x1-carbon-keyboard.jpg
[22:18] <sambagirl> is anyone running ubuntu on a dell c720 chromebook?
[22:18] <sambagirl> if so pm me thanks.
[22:24] <lakitu> hi all. here's my problem: can i backup apt packages using a live cd, then install to a fresh install all the while not having internet? my disabled friend borked his system, i just looked thru about a page of results on google - wondering if someone here knows offhand?
[22:25] <ses1984> downloaded packages are saved in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:25] <lakitu> ok
[22:25] <lakitu> good info
[22:25] <lakitu> what's the process to restore manually copied packages?
[22:26] <ses1984> if you backup that directory and restore it to that same location, then use apt-get install it should find them and install them
[22:26] <ses1984> but
[22:26] <lakitu> my disabled friend is who this is for. they won't let him have internet 'because it makes him fat' - wonderful
[22:26] <lakitu> thank you - or - but what?
[22:26] <lakitu> =)
[22:26] <ses1984> one part i am not sure about is what happens with regard to apt-get update ... the repository that you have now vs the repository as it is on the live cd wont be in sync
[22:27] <lakitu> oh
[22:27] <lakitu> i kind of understand, let me reread
[22:28] <ses1984> like when you say "apt-get install gimp" then apt-get has a certain version in mind (i think) that version may or may not be the one you put in /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:28] <lakitu> is there some prompt-fu you can use to install just these programs
[22:28] <lakitu> packages i should say
[22:28] <lakitu> packages/programs
[22:29] <ses1984> dpkg -i
[22:29] <lakitu> oh i see what you mean
[22:29] <lakitu> when you update... hm
[22:29] <ses1984> i dont know if this will be a problem or not. but you can always use dpkg
[22:29] <ses1984> no one else can chime in? channel dead tonight?
[22:29] <lakitu> thanks for the help tho.
[22:30] <lakitu> appreciate it
[22:30] <k1l> lakitu: packages.ubuntu.com get the packages there.
[22:31] <lakitu> individually?
[22:31] <lakitu> or how, i guess?
[22:31] <k1l> lakitu: then transfer them to the other system and install it there with software-center or other program like dpkg
[22:32] <lakitu> is there a way to batch do it?
[22:32] <lakitu> like so i don't have to individually do 1,200 packages or whatever it is
[22:32] <sambagirl> if apt-get is missing how do you install it?
[22:32] <ses1984> probably dpkg -i *.deb would do it
[22:33] <lakitu> ses1984: for installing, but i mean can't i just copy them from the harddrive using a live cd,
[22:33] <Ben64> lakitu: might want to consider reinstalling at that point
[22:33] <k1l> if its that much you maybe want to get internet to that system or make a clean install (when its broken)?
[22:33] <lakitu> then paste them onto the new install somewhere & use software center, or dpkg -i or something?
[22:34] <k1l> lakitu: what? 1.200 packages? i really suggest you get that system somehow to a cable or wifi somehow.
[22:34] <lakitu> k1l:  i have no idea how many
[22:34] <Alxx> rg
[22:34] <ses1984> lakitu:  i'm confused, you want to know how to copy them all at once?
[22:34] <lakitu> k1l: what i said above was, the authorities are authoritarian where he lives, won't let him have internet
[22:34] <lakitu> haven't for years
[22:34] <lakitu> (he livesi n a grouphome)
[22:34] <k1l> lakitu: so what is the real task here?
[22:35] <k1l> lakitu: get "a program" onto that system, or repair a system or what?
[22:35] <ses1984> how miserable that would be, i would flip shit if they didn't give me internet. especially if i was disabled
[22:35] <lakitu> ses1984: k1l was saying i should download them from packages.ubuntu.com. i was saying without a batch way/method of doing that, that would be tedious
[22:36] <ses1984> lakitu: you need to give us more details of what you want to accomplish because i thnk everyone is kind of confused
[22:36] <k1l> lakitu: you are very vague what you want to do. so we can just guess and then advise
[22:36] <ses1984> i think you're trying to say this: you have a system with a bunch of packages on it and you want to reinstall ubuntu on this system and keep those packages?
[22:36] <lakitu> Ben64: that's where we were at, but he has no internet access, so would lose all his programs. i just turned him onto linux, this is his first problem with it
[22:37] <grubProb> Hello, I installed Xubuntu along with 8.1 (dual-boot), and wanted to try out Elementary OS, so I got rid of Xubuntu by deleting the partition in Windows 8.1. However, now it looks my grub loader is broken. What can I do?
[22:37] <lakitu> he is a disabled friend in a grouphome
[22:37] <lakitu> ok, so again:
[22:37] <ses1984> why do you have to reinstall ubuntu, what's wrong with just keeping what he has
[22:37] <grubProb> ses1984: are you talking to me?
[22:37] <ses1984> nope
[22:37] <grubProb> ok
[22:37] <grubProb> Someone talk to me
[22:37] <ses1984> ok
[22:38] <grubProb> no
[22:38] <ses1984> you need to plug in a live CD/USB and fix grub
[22:38] <Ben64> grubProb: elementary os is not supported here, sorry
[22:38] <ses1984> google "live cd grub repair" lots of guides out there
[22:38] <grubProb> ses1984: The problem is that I don't have Install CD anymore...
[22:38] <lakitu> i'm trying to recover the programs installed, & port them to a new install because the owner does not have access to internet
[22:39] <grubProb> So I must repair it first before reinstalling other Ubuntu?
[22:39] <Ben64> grubProb: for help booting windows, join ##windows
[22:39] <k1l> grubProb: if you removed the xubuntu you removed the grub files. either you install a linux again or you install the windows bootloader
[22:39] <Ben64> grubProb: for help with elementaryos... i dont know their channel, but it is not here
[22:39] <ses1984> lakitu: what do you mean "port them to a new install" ... is it moving from one computer to another? why are you reinstalling?
[22:39] <lakitu> ses1984: the ubuntu he has won't boot, we worked thru that & this was the best option, before resintalling
[22:39] <ses1984> you could try to insert a live CD and repair grub
[22:39] <lakitu> move and install
[22:40] <lakitu> :ses1984
[22:40] <grubProb> Ben64: I don't think Windows would be much help for dual boot?
[22:40] <lakitu> grub is ok
[22:40] <ses1984> lakitu: insert live CD and repair grub. did you try that?
[22:40] <lakitu> i appreciate the help tho
[22:40] <lakitu> ses1984: grub is ok
[22:40] <lakitu> he's going to reinstall
[22:40] <ses1984> so why won't it boot? what makes you think reinstalling will fix it? and what do you mean "move and install" ... is it moving to a new computer?
[22:41] <grubProb> Ben64: I guess I made wrong introduction then... If I were to reinstall Ubuntu with broken Grub, how would you do that?
[22:41] <ses1984> if you are re-installing over an existing install and you don't backup your packages somehow then they will need to be re-downloaded
[22:41] <ses1984> somehow
[22:41] <k1l> grubProb: you dont have a dualboot, or? you removed xubuntu you said
[22:41] <lakitu> but because he is not allowed internet (see above) i wanted to get the programs he picked off of his broken ubuntu
[22:41] <lakitu> and put them on his new one
[22:41] <Melio> that's terrible
[22:41] <Ben64> grubProb: you said you want to install elementary os.. do that
[22:41] <grubProb> k1l: I used to have dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu, and I want to install Ubuntu again, but grubloader is broken...
[22:42] <Ben64> grubProb: because you deleted the partition
[22:42] <k1l> grubProb: come on. you are making things up now.
[22:42] <grubProb> Ben64: Yes
[22:42] <Ben64> grubProb: i'm not sure why you keep asking the same questions. install elementary os, or join ##windows for help booting
[22:42] <ses1984> how far away is the grouphome from where you live, or how far away is it from an internet cafe. when you fix it, are you going to physically go to the grouphome with a live cd? what other tools do  you have access to bring with you?
[22:42] <grubProb> k1l: Well, it looked like  you guys weren't going to help me unless it's Ubuntu
[22:42] <lakitu> Ben64 k1l: i don't know how many packages he has actually
[22:43] <Ben64> grubProb: very true, that is why this channel is called #ubuntu
[22:43] <grubProb> Ben64: I am trying to install Ubuntu/Elementary OS, but grub is broken
[22:43] <k1l> grubProb: grub doesnt matter before installation
[22:43] <grubProb> Ben64: I thought Elementary OS is based on Ubuntu, and their installer is same
[22:43] <k1l> grubProb: and windows or elementary OS problems dont matter here, too
[22:43] <Melio> I usually don't have to reboot. but i noticed flash player crashes system wide and requires a restart to allow it to load again
[22:43] <Ben64> grubProb: for the last time, join ##windows for help booting windows, or install elementary os, or ubuntu or whatever you want. elementary os is NOT supported here
[22:43] <k1l> grubProb: then install ubuntu if its the same.
[22:44] <Melio> no biggie. just laptops are a pain to restart if the run perfectly in linux otherwise
[22:44] <lakitu> ses1984: it's a busy time right now, but i am having him over in approx a month (they let him see his friends once a month, too! kid you not) to work on his os. i just wanted to get him back up & running in linux ("i love linux" he literally told me lol) sooner than the month
[22:44] <Melio> i suppose i could kill it in memory
[22:44] <lakitu> anyway
[22:44] <grubProb> Ben64: I think you misunderstood me... I can boot Windows, and I tried to install Ubuntu based distro, but it won't because grub is broken, and I don't think Windows can help because they don't deal with grub which is linux bootloader
[22:44] <ses1984> lakitu: so what tools will you have access to when you do this fix. will it be at the grouphome or in your home/office?
[22:45] <Ben64> grubProb: if you can boot windows, then grub isn't broken
[22:45] <ses1984> grubProb: there is no possibly way grub could prevent you from installing an OS
[22:45] <Ben64> and that too ^
[22:45] <k1l> grubProb:  you dont have a issue at all.
[22:46] <k1l> grubProb: you want to install elementary. so do it. grub doesnt matter before an installation.
[22:46] <grubProb> Ben64 ses1984: When I tried to install through the installer, it says that it cannot complete installation because grub is broken... And when I tried to boot into Windows, I get into broken grub first so I have to type "exit" and then it will boot
[22:46] <lakitu> well. let me say this. i just want to know if there's a way to copy that directory you mentioned ses1984, and use a command to (sustainably - no problems when i update) reinstall those packages, & be done with it
[22:46] <grubProb> Sorry for not making it clear
[22:46] <lakitu> :ses1984
[22:47] <Ben64> grubProb: you keep changing your story, but the fact remains, elementary os is not supported here
[22:47] <lakitu> is 1984 a reference to the book or your birthyear, ses? =)
[22:47] <k1l> !elementary | grubProb
[22:48] <grubProb> Ben64 But the problem stems me deleting partition of Ubuntu
[22:48] <Ben64> grubProb: which means you no longer have ubuntu
[22:48] <grubProb> God... Okay, say I want to install ubuntu
[22:48] <grubProb> would you help me?
[22:48] <Ben64> step 1: install ubuntu
[22:48] <richardjs> So, fresh install of 12.04, after thing done is aptitude update and upgrade, "aptitude install openssh-server" fails due to an unmet libwrap0 dependency. aptitude can't seem to find libwrap0. Is this normal?
[22:48] <Ben64> step 2: you're done
[22:49] <richardjs> only thing*
[22:49] <grubProb> I cannot install Ubuntu/Elementary OS but none of them will not install because they are based on the same installer
[22:49] <grubProb> Ben64: I told you... I cannot install Ubuntu because it won't install
[22:49] <Ben64> no, you tried elementary
[22:49] <grubProb> Ben64: It complains about bootloader being broken
[22:50] <lakitu> i didn't understand what you were saying ses1984, about update problems? would there be problems if we copied them using the file browser then used say dpkg -i to install them?
[22:50] <grubProb> Okay, that's fair. Will you help me if I comeback after trying to install Ubuntu and that fails?
[22:50] <k1l> grubProb: you are guessing there.
[22:50] <grubProb> k1l: That is true
[22:51] <k1l> grubProb: so stop spoiling this channel that is unfair to the real ubuntu users.
[22:52] <ses1984> lakitu: 1984 is a reference to both
[22:52] <grubProb> k1l: Please. I don't hate ubuntu. Stop shunning out people trying various thing. I asked for help because I used to be Ubuntu user just as much as you are, and just because I don't use Ubuntu, I don't deserve to ask questions?
[22:52] <lakitu> ok =)
[22:52] <ses1984> lakitu: yes,  you can copy that directory. and then dpkg -i *.deb to install them all
[22:53] <ses1984> no one can guarantee that all the dependencies will line up, but it will probably be fine
[22:53] <lakitu> ses1984: alrighty
[22:53] <k1l> grubProb: i muted you since you are still on the egoistic trip that your issues matter more than others. this is for ubuntu support. you dont have a ubuntu issue. so come back when you have an ubuntu issue. thanks
[22:53] <ses1984> if you really want to be sure, then you can use tools to download an entire mirror of the ubuntu repositories and bring them with you when you work on your friend's computer
[22:53] <ses1984> apt-mirror is one of them. there are other tools that accomplish the same thing
[22:54] <lakitu> ses1984: thanks for your diplomacy/approach, appreciate the help
[22:54] <ses1984> if you bring a laptop for example, then you can host a mirror of the repos for his computer to use while you re-install.
[22:54] <ses1984> there's also no guarantee that /var/cache/apt/archives has a copy of every package he installed. they could have been purged or overwritten if he was low on space
[22:55] <therue> sup
[22:55] <lakitu>  yeah, i was thinking about getting him discs of packages
[22:55] <lakitu> true - i tihnk that's not a danger here
[22:55] <lakitu> :ses1984
[22:55] <therue> should i give / 20gigs or 30 gigs? average users usually uses how much?
[22:55] <lakitu> alright thanks ses1984
[22:55] <lakitu> all
[23:00] <therue> anyone around?
[23:01] <k1l> therue: with seperate /home partition?
[23:02] <Ranieri_> Hey, I'm downloading a 32-bit binary, it's saved as a .tar.gz
[23:03] <Ranieri_> How do I use gunzip and tar to unzip the file, and unpack it.
[23:03] <k1l> Ranieri_: first think about if there is the program in the official ubuntu repos
[23:03] <Ranieri_> k1l: What are the ubuntu repos
[23:04] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/package-management.html
[23:05] <k1l> ubuntu ships a lot of packages with programs already made working with ubuntu.
[23:07] <mmoebius> Ranieri_: does apt-cache search <PROGRAMNAME> yield anything ? Then it's in the Ubuntu repos
[23:07] <unholycrab> how do i disable this fancy update-motd.d in ubuntu12.04?
[23:08] <unholycrab> ummm
[23:10] <unholycrab> i just want to show whats in /etc/motd
[23:11] <trism> unholycrab: in 12.04 you can put any static content you want in /etc/motd.tail
[23:11] <trism> unholycrab: it switched back to /etc/motd in 14.04+
[23:12] <trism> unholycrab: there is actually a script in 12.04 in /etc/update-motd.d/ that cats it at the end, you can disable any of the other scripts by chmod -x
[23:12] <hyguin> algum BR ?
[23:16] <unholycrab> trism: all my ansible scripts write to /etc/motd
[23:18] <circumvolant> http://grab.by/CoEQ
[23:18] <trism> unholycrab: then just symlink it to /etc/motd.tail, that file shouldn't exist by default...or edit the /etc/update-motd.d/ script to cat /etc/motd
[23:19] <spawn> algum brasileiro ?
[23:19] <unholycrab> weird
[23:19] <unholycrab> so if motd.tail exists, then it overrides all that update-motd.d stuff
[23:20] <unholycrab> via 99-footer
[23:20] <bazhang> !br | Guest22944
[23:20] <trism> unholycrab: no it does not override, it is just appended to the end
[23:25] <sparr> I want to patch the source to a program and then build a copy of it that is otherwise identical to the packaged version. How can I make sure I get all the configure options and such correct?
[23:26] <Jordan_U> sparr: Grab the source package via apt-get source packagename and rebuild the source package.
[23:27] <the8thbit|work> Hello
[23:27] <the8thbit|work> Every time I try to install a package, I get this: http://pastebin.com/8qZgpveS
[23:28] <k1l> the8thbit|work: please show a "sudo apt-get update" and a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin
[23:28] <the8thbit|work> sure, one moment
[23:29] <Jordan_U> sparr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81870/how-to-download-modify-build-and-install-a-debian-source-package
[23:30] <the8thbit|work> these are my sources http://pastebin.com/MypAd4cZ
[23:31] <sparr> thanks Jordan_U
[23:31] <Jordan_U> sparr: You're welcome.
[23:33] <Corvette> Can anyone help with trouble I'm having with Haguichi on Ubuntu 14.04
[23:33] <MrMonkey31> uh, lil question about the file mgrs. Can I somehow see (in a readily accessible fashion) the file attributes on windows-dos filesystem files? The 'hidden' attr in particular?
[23:34] <the8thbit|work> k1l: and here is the output of update: http://pastebin.com/W8YPK861
[23:36] <mcphail> I'd like to try running nouveau rather than nvidia driver but, when I do, I just get a flash of the lightdm login screen before everything turns black and my monitor reports "no signal". Alt-SysRq-REISUB will reboot the machine, so it is still running. Nothing useful in xorg log if I ssh in to check. Any suggestions? If I boot with "nomodset" I only get low-res vesa driver rather than nouveau.
[23:36] <mcphail> *nomodeset
[23:36] <flaiks> ello
[23:36] <flaiks> how can i tell if I installed ubuntu in legacy or efi mode ?
[23:37] <flaiks> I had chamaeleon installed before and when I installed ubuntu over OSX it seemed to break booting into windows
[23:37] <flaiks> so I believe I need to re-install ubuntu in efi mode ?
[23:38] <renebarbosa> flaiks, dmesg | grep -i uefi
[23:38] <flaiks> it would make sense why its not detecting my windows install
[23:38] <flaiks> would I have to completely re-install ubuntu ?
[23:39] <k1l> the8thbit|work: ok, so there are some 3rd party repos interfering. you can see with "apt-cache policy gcc-4.8-multilib" what 3rd party repo that is
[23:39] <flaiks> renebarbosa: that command gave nothing, so im assuming that means im in legacy mode ?
[23:40] <the8thbit|work> k1l: that gave me this: http://pastebin.com/E9FvzPL3
[23:41] <mcphail> flaiks: Has Windows8 changed things? You never used to have to use uefi to dual boot windows
[23:41] <flaiks> mcphail: im using 7 but I had uefi enabled for osx
[23:41] <k1l> the8thbit|work: sorry i am multitasking and copied the wrong package: apt-cache policy libc6-dev-i386 that is
[23:41] <nmatrix9_> Hello all, I want to create to setup a new box with software raid 10 with LVM with a ext3 fs.  Now I'd like to do all 3 step by step but it seems there is no central documentation on how to do this unless through trial and error (at least for me) anyone got any recommendations?
[23:41] <the8thbit|work> ah thanks
[23:41] <flaiks> mcphail: and I have a newer z87 motherboard so I believe it defaults to UEFI
[23:42] <mesaboogie1> hi guys, what is a simple voice recorder program that will use pulse audio pls?
[23:42] <the8thbit|work> k1l: http://pastebin.com/X6hmyhUd
[23:42] <k1l> the8thbit|work: so you can  stop that 3rd party repo and see if it works (after a sudo apt-get update) or you can force the install with "sudo apt-get -f install"
[23:42] <flaiks> so do I need to completely re-install ubuntu and ensure itŌĆÖs in EUFI mode ?
[23:42] <flaiks> UEFI
[23:43] <renebarbosa> flaiks, probably it's in legacy boot mode
[23:43] <the8thbit|work> k1l: When I do apt-get -f install I get an error
[23:43] <flaiks> when I try to boot into windows I just get chamaleon errors
[23:43] <mcphail> flaiks: What's chameleon?
[23:43] <the8thbit|work> k1l: http://pastebin.com/pwr50h7T
[23:43] <flaiks> mcphail: bootloader for hackintosh lol
[23:43] <something> my /dev/.bootchart/log/proc_ps.log is over 4GB, what's wrong? It was 8GB recently, I deleted it today and it is large again. Can I disable whatever feature is making it be so big?
[23:43] <flaiks> mcphail: its a uefi bootloader
[23:44] <flaiks> mcphail: but I deleted OSX
[23:44] <mcphail> flaiks: you have a uefi partition after the bootloader?
[23:44] <flaiks> I am not sure
[23:44] <flaiks> mcphail: not sure
[23:44] <flaiks> i can boot into ubuntu but it shows as legacy not UEFI
[23:45] <flaiks> so i assume I need to reinstall it in UEFI mode so it can detect windows and add a grub entry for it ?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> flaiks: Did you install Windows for UEFI or for BIOS?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> flaiks: Is your boot firmware UEFI based or BIOS based?
[23:45] <flaiks> Jordan_U: not sureŌĆ”
[23:45] <mcphail> flaiks: I'm quite hazy about his but, when I installed onto a new SSD yesterday, I created a GPT partition table, small UEFI partition then my Ubuntu btrfs root partition. You might just need to install GRUB as the bootloader and let the magic happen
[23:46] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | flaiks
[23:46] <flaiks> mcphail: well grub is installed in legacy mode
[23:46] <flaiks> mcphail: I assume
[23:46] <flaiks> mcphail: when I boot the ubuntu hd it gives me chameleon errors
[23:46] <flaiks> Jordan_U: thanks you
[23:46] <therue> so i'm installing my ubuntu, but it literally just never ends for some reason.. how long does the installation take?
[23:46] <flaiks> Jordan_U: I will run that
[23:47] <mcphail> flaiks: I'm not expert enough to guide you on this but I'm pretty sure you should be able to sort it without a reinstall
[23:47] <flaiks> mcphail: okay I hope so
[23:47] <flaiks> mcphail: ubuntu wont evend etect windows as an os
[23:47] <Jordan_U> therue: Should not take more than an hour, and usually much less. Where is it stopped?
[23:47] <therue> ok it hasn't been an hour
[23:47] <therue> i guess i'll just leave it running
[23:48] <Jordan_U> therue: How long has it been? Can you post a screenshot of the current install screen?
[23:48] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | therue
[23:48] <therue> i installed linux mint before, and that took literally just a few minutes to install so i was surprised when unbuntu install hasn't ended in 10 min
[23:48] <therue> can't right now though... it's the other computer that's installing
[23:49] <mcphail> therue: which version are you installing?
[23:49] <flaiks> okay
[23:49] <flaiks> i will pastebin this
[23:49] <flaiks> one min
[23:49] <therue> i tried installing and ended it before 'cuz when i looked at the messages below, it showed a lot of permission denied... but i think it's becauase earlier i chose TRY ubuntu without installing... so i wasn't a superuser installing it perhaps
[23:50] <therue> this time around... i made sure to chose INSTALL UBUNTU
[23:50] <the8thbit|work> hm, I actually have to clock out
[23:50] <k1l> the8thbit|work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/1312917  see comment #5
[23:50] <therue> i'm installing 14.10
[23:50] <mcphail> therue: try installing again but deselect the options to "download updates when installing" and "install 3rd party software"
[23:50] <therue> i have those 2 selected this time around
[23:50] <therue> is that bad or something?
[23:51] <k1l> the8thbit|work: maybe its a circle bug in packages.
[23:51] <therue> i mean i can leave it running and install it's no problem
[23:51] <Jordan_U> therue: Running the installer after selecting "try without installing" is perfectly valid, and I recommend it as then you can easily do things like take and post screenshots.
[23:51] <mcphail> therue: my machine (and many others) hang when they're selected
[23:51] <flaiks> hey
[23:51] <flaiks> k im back in ubutnu
[23:51] <flaiks> **ubuntu
[23:51] <therue> and you're forced to reinstall again or something?
[23:51] <therue> how do you  know if it hangs or not? or if it's just going to take longer?
[23:51] <flaiks> this is the results from bootinfoscript
[23:51] <RedPenguin> I am attempting to install Ubuntu on my PC, and even though grub appears to be installed, the PC upon reboot says "DISK BOOT FAILURE", even a 2nd install doesn't want to work
[23:51] <flaiks> http://pastebin.com/ERHsaCnF
[23:52] <flaiks> doesnt tell me much about UEFI
[23:52] <mcphail> therue: and install shouldn't take very long. If you've been waiting an hour it will probably have hung
[23:52] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | RedPenguin
[23:52] <flaiks> SDA is windows, SDB is ubuntu
[23:53] <something> my /dev/.bootchart/log/proc_ps.log is over 4GB, what's wrong? It was 8GB recently, I deleted it today and it is large again. Can I disable whatever feature is making it be so big?
[23:53] <therue> ok i'm looking at the messages at the bottom of my install... i see some warningL source ID blah was not found when attempting to remove it
[23:54] <ramborocks> hello
[23:54] <therue> and cannot access autospawn lock
[23:54] <therue> failed to acquire autospawn lock
[23:54] <therue> cannot access autospawn lock
[23:54] <Jordan_U> flaiks: Your Windows installation is configured for BIOS based booting, your Ubuntu installation is configured for UEFI based booting.
[23:54] <flaiks> Jordan_U, ah so thats the problems
[23:54] <ramborocks> i keep getting a crash on ubuntu during boot up it says  in the error report : ipod-set-info crashed with signal 7 in g_strndup()
[23:54] <flaiks> Jordan_U, whats the best way to fix it ?
[23:55] <flaiks> Jordan_U, can I boot into windows from grub at all ? or would I need to re-install one of the os's
[23:55] <MrMonkey31> flaiks - dedoimedo makes good guides of this. see http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-7-ubuntu.html and the grub tute @www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html for your information
[23:55] <Jordan_U> flaiks: I would recommend installing Windows for UEFI.
[23:55] <flaiks> Jordan_U, hm, so a windows re-install is in order
[23:56] <flaiks> fuck, I cant even boot into windows to backup my games
[23:56] <flaiks> pardon my language
[23:56] <MrMonkey31> um not that they mention uefi!
[23:56] <ramborocks> i keep getting a crash on ubuntu during boot up it says  in the error report : ipod-set-info crashed with signal 7 in g_strndup()
[23:56] <solsTiCe> hi. can anyone running a clean uptodate ubuntu 14.10 can post his /var/lib/rkhunter/db/rkhunter.dat file after having run a rkhunter --propupd, please ?
[23:57] <mcphail> I'd like to try running nouveau rather than nvidia driver but, when I do, I just get a flash of the lightdm login screen before everything turns black and my monitor reports "no signal". Alt-SysRq-REISUB will reboot the machine, so it is still running. Nothing useful in xorg log if I ssh in to check. Any suggestions? If I boot with "nomodeset" I only get low-res vesa driver rather than nouveau.
[23:59] <kristal> Q: Anyone remember the name of that application that let you log in as another user in a window?


[07:24] <Halelujah> Hi
[07:24] <Halelujah> I just installed Luubuntu
[07:26] <Halelujah> I get some wierd lookking notices
[09:27] <Halelujah_> Hi, my sound is not working
[09:40] <Halelujah_> installing pulseaudio fixed my problem
[11:01] <Halelujah> Hi my sound gone again after restart
[11:53] <Halelujah> hi
[11:53] <Halelujah> HOw to install alsamixer?
[11:58] <bioterror> Halelujah, isnt it installed by default?
[11:59] <bioterror> just open terminal and type: alsamixer
[11:59] <Halelujah> no
[11:59] <Unit193> It is, bioterror.
[11:59] <bioterror> if not, then alsa-utils is the package
[11:59] <Halelujah> Not for me
[11:59] <Halelujah> i have installed alsa-utils package
[12:00] <Halelujah> but no alsamixer
[12:00] <Halelujah> gatis@pc:~$ alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[12:00] <Halelujah> alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[12:01] <Halelujah> i need sound badly
[12:04] <bioterror> dpkg -L alsa-utils
[12:04] <bioterror> does it list alsamixer?
[12:04] <Halelujah> D/usr/bin/alsamixer
[12:05] <bioterror> sounds like your $path is not correct
[12:05] <bioterror> have you changed shell from default bash to another?
[12:05] <Halelujah> ignore that D letter
[12:07] <Halelujah> its fresh install
[12:07] <Halelujah>     /usr/bin/alsamixer
[12:07] <bioterror> paste that into terminal
[12:07] <bioterror> should open it
[12:08] <Halelujah> gatis@pc:~$ /usr/bin/alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[12:08] <Unit193> !crosspost | Halelujah
[12:09] <Halelujah> !crosspost Unit193 dont annoy me...
[12:10] <Unit193> Halelujah: Read the bot's message.
[12:11] <Halelujah> Unit193 when i ask for help whole channel is sleeping.. but when you see crossposting suddenly you wake up and have time to judge and not help.. That's not good
[12:11] <Halelujah> I would never crosspost if this channel was active :/
[12:13] <Halelujah> I dont know what to do.. install windows? :/
[12:14] <Halelujah> I dont want to :/ But do i have a choice... im not linux guru
[12:18] <bioterror> I was just going to ask if the installation was succesful, did not sound like it was
[12:19] <Unit193> It's already installed, amixer just can't find the card.  He also installed pulseaudio and pulseaudio-utils earlier and had it working, at least according to him.
[12:21] <Unit193> aplay -l  lists nothing.
[17:28] <qkzoo1978> I have a machine on my network, <IP_ADDRESS>, that has a printer hooked up via USB.  Xubuntu was able to see and connect to this printer with just a few mouse clicks.  So such joy in Lubuntu.  How do I connect to this printer in Lubuntu?  I add new printer, and that it wants it's ipp:// printer address.  I don't know what this is...?
[17:40] <qkzoo1978> I have a machine on my network, <IP_ADDRESS>, that has a printer hooked up via USB.  Xubuntu was able to see and connect to this printer with just a few mouse clicks.  So such joy in Lubuntu.  How do I connect to this printer in Lubuntu?  I add new printer, and that it wants it's ipp:// printer address.  I don't know what this is...?
[18:21] <qkzoo1978> Right click task bar to add installed application shortcut, which shows up in LxMenu under Accessories, but does not show up in the menu to choose for Application Launch Bar.  Any ideas?
[18:24] <qkzoo1978> In this case, it's KeePass2.  As said it shows up in the LxMenu under Accessories, but when I try to add a shortcut to the taskbar via Right Click Launch Bar, Application Launch Bar Settings, Accessories, it's not there.
[18:25] <qkzoo1978> The desktop entry is /usr/share/applications/keepass2.desktop
[19:03] <qkzoo1978> yoo hoo?
[21:19] <UBuxuBU> would be cool if a team of lubuntu experts got together to form a group called "lubuntu wireless" who's specific goal is to make sure lubuntu runs wireless...right outta the box.
[21:20] <holstein> UBuxuBU: well, ideally, it would be available for *any* wireless hardware creators to support all of lubuntu/linux/ubuntu.. since, its all open, and available for them to do so.. they are welcome to provide drivers for lubuntu and the linux kernel that work "right outta the box"
[21:20] <holstein> lubuntu literally cant do anything that would prevent that
[21:24] <UBuxuBU> for example....i had a major problem after i installed lubuntu-it would bnot use the driver it gave me to run wireless, si was lucky to find a set of terminal commands to make it work, so thst means those commands could of happened during installation so that when i reached my new desktop for the 1st time lubuntu wouldhave seen my wireless network and i would have been able to connect right away.
[21:25] <holstein> right.. but, the creators of the device likely promised you support for another OS.. they can make sure, and release hardware that works flawlessly with linux, and lubuntu.. if they choose not to, you can have need for work-arounds
[21:26] <UBuxuBU> a special team of lubuntu helpers could prolly do it...even though the wizzbangs at broadcom should be the ones to do it.
[21:27] <holstein> UBuxuBU: no. lubuntu helpers are not the creators of the hardware.. the hardware creators will be the one that must do it.. thats when we will get, and do have flawless support
[21:28] <UBuxuBU> what if they never do it
[21:28] <holstein> try and purchase hardware that promises linux support.. expect it, and seek it out, and support the companies that do it.. and, that market traction will make things work, not only in lubuntu, but, in linux in general.. for *all* of the community of linus
[21:29] <holstein> UBuxuBU: if they never want the hardware to work, and specifically block its working, linux and lubuntu are not able to address that..
[21:34] <UBuxuBU> actually there was a driver that worked it just did not come ready in the OS, it did not appear that anyone did any purposeful blocking.
[21:35] <holstein> UBuxuBU: its not *allowed* to be included in the OS..
[22:55] <boxlover> Hi,I just installed lubuntu and I am new to Linux. I installed lubuntu on my mom's old netbook and everything seems to be running fine, but I don't see any option to change my volume.