[12:25] <Prodigal_Son> ok... i just got a message from the launchpad team (was filtered to bulk) but it's an empty e-mail message with no instructions on how to activate my account
[12:39] <Prodigal_Son> aha! yahoo was blocking it, just had to add their e-mail address to my contacts list and it made it through, finally i was able to request ubuntu cd's
[01:31] <vnay> hiee
[01:32] <vnay> anyone here????
[01:32] <vnay> helloooo
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[01:35] <vnay> hi
[08:57] <CountDown> Hi.  I just created my launchpad account a couple of minutes ago.  I tried opening a new bug, but was faced with a 'page not found' error.  How does one go about filing bugs?
[11:08] <Nafallo> anyone alive? :-)
[12:36] <sivang> morning all
[12:36] <sivang> hey Nafallo
[12:39] <Nafallo> hi sivang :-)
[12:39] <Nafallo> anyone know how to add a Swedish flag for members of the translation team? like the italic one has :-)
[12:41] <mdke> the italians are speshul
[12:42] <mdke> Nafallo, go to the people/teamname page. "Edit Emblem" then upload your file
[12:44] <uws> Does launchpad offer RSS feeds for all bug activity on  a product?
[12:45] <Nafallo> I don't have an Edit Emblem
[12:45] <mdke> are you team administrator?
[12:46] <Nafallo> yes
[12:46] <mdke> what is the team?
[12:46] <mdke> all teams have it
[12:46] <Nafallo> ubuntu-l10n-sv
[12:47] <mdke> how odd
[12:47] <Nafallo> infact, I can't see that option anywhere :-P
[12:47] <mdke> are you team owner?
[12:47] <Nafallo> nope
[12:48] <mdke> you should ask him or her
[12:48] <mdke> it is only for the team owner I think
[12:48] <Nafallo> oki, thanx :-)
[12:48] <mdke> ladyfrost ;) sounds like a her
[12:48] <Nafallo> it is :-)
[01:44] <siretart> help! launchpad crew!
[01:44] <siretart> I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if there is a bug in the mailone Email interface
[01:45] <siretart> I filed a (perhaps 2) bugs in via email interface
[01:45] <siretart> now it seems that this email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>keeps on getting delivered
[01:45] <siretart> resulting in many many many duplicate bugs in getting filed
[01:45] <siretart> which keeps on spamming our mailing list
[01:45] <siretart> help! how to stop that!
[01:53] <sivang> Kinnison: ping
[01:56] <irvin> can i roll out my own launchpad?
[01:56] <mdke> irvin, no
[01:56] <mdke> https://launchpad.net/legal
[02:17] <irvin> thanks mdke
[02:30] <seb128> any launchpad guy awake?
[02:33] <siretart> 13:44:24 < siretart> help! launchpad crew!
[02:33] <siretart> 13:44:45 < siretart> I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if there is a bug in the mailone Email interface
[02:33] <siretart> 13:45:02 < siretart> I filed a (perhaps 2) bugs in via email interface
[02:33] <siretart> 13:45:19 < siretart> now it seems that this email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>keeps on getting delivered
[02:33] <siretart> 13:45:31 < siretart> resulting in many many many duplicate bugs in getting filed
[02:33] <siretart> 13:45:37 < siretart> which keeps on spamming our mailing list
[02:33] <siretart> 13:45:41 < siretart> help! how to stop that!
[02:37] <siretart> according to Nafallo, this seems to block new bugs to be filed, too!
[02:41] <Nafallo> atleast by follow-up on trac and new bug on tora is not there yet.
[02:41] <Nafallo> I reported them about the same time the first avifile showed up.
[08:11] <highvoltage> hi! when does the launchpad cron job run again?


[00:07] <talonz> nexus 4 can use 4g it just needs to be unlocked ... i dont know if it works on ubuntu touch but i can't see why it wouldnt
[00:40] <dobey> talonz: yes it works. you just have to use the really old radio firmware to get it working.
[00:41] <dobey> it works on the nexus5 too, but so many other things don't work there :)
[01:06] <talonz> doanac: yeah i got a nexus 5 and it's a real shame ubuntu touch does not work on it any more the phone is still quite fast
[01:07] <dobey> eh, ubuntu works as well on it now as it always has
[01:07] <dobey> it's what i use as a phone
[01:08] <talonz> i havent been able to get it to run through multirom for months now keep getting stuck at the google logo
[01:08] <talonz> and alot of others are not having any luck either
[01:08] <talonz> i keep trying every weekend tho just to see if anythings changed
[01:53] <dobey> i don't use android at all
[01:54] <dobey> i only have ubuntu on my n5
[01:57] <dobey> multirom and the image server where the nexus5 images were being hosted is also pretty outdated. i'm going to try to get my own image server set up soon though
[03:01] <scientes> what about nexus 4
[03:35] <ahoneybun> talonz, it does enable the 4G on the N4 as well
[04:06] <talonz> ahoneybun: thanks i got one ordered just waiting for it to get here
[04:08] <ahoneybun> np the good thing about the N4 is that it supports the hdmi out with that cable
[04:08] <ahoneybun> talonz, ^
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-is-being-ported-to-lg-optimus-g-again-497145.shtml
[07:11] <gkeen_> lotuspsychje: you into ubuntu-touch? do you know when we might get exchangemail support?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> gkeen_: not sure we have exchange support
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> gkeen_: did you try dekko?
[07:12] <gkeen_> dekko?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> its in the software center
[07:12] <gkeen_> ah no well its an imap client
[07:13] <gkeen_> i need mail, contacts and calendar support.. for work etc
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> gkeen_: not sure ubuntu touch supports this mate
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> gkeen_: cant you link a gmail to your exchange some way?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> outlook and gmail got an app on touch
[07:14] <gkeen_> probably, but still.. cant be that hard to implement.. Firefox OS has had it for years :P
[09:08] <Nikolay> Hi :)
[15:33] <MrFastDie> Hey guys! It is possible that the software center is currently not available?
[15:49] <k1l> MrFastDie: works here from netcologne
[22:20] <Marezz> Hi everyone
[22:20] <Marezz> Does ubuntu touch contain systemd?
[22:24] <k1l> iirc yes
[22:57] <dobey> contain yes, use as the init system, no
[22:57] <dobey> the phone images still use upstart
[22:59] <k1l_> oh ok. thought it was already shifted to systemd


[12:24] <mgerdts> thanks blackboxsw.  I'll try to get through all of your suggestions today or tomorrow.
[14:42] <robjo> smoser: Q about ds-identify/cloud-init-generator
[14:43] <smoser> ok.
[14:43] <robjo> We've run into a case where ds-identify fails because blkid cannot be found
[14:43] <smoser> as in not present ? or not in path
[14:43] <robjo> blkid lives in /sbin, but it also lives there in Ubuntu
[14:44] <smoser> cloud-init assumes that the system is set up to have a sane path
[14:44] <robjo> now if I modify ds-identify to be /sbin/blkid then the error goes away
[14:44] <smoser> isnt it just more reasonable to have PATH set up to have utilities in it than to have every tool hard code where it thinks the right place for that is ?
[14:45] <robjo> but the generator run in the context, i.e. the environment of systemd, i.e. PID 1 and that context nothing is supposed to be assumed
[14:46] <robjo> I agree with your reasoning but for some reason systemd early execution environment doesn't appear to be the same
[14:46] <smoser> well you're suggesting i assume that blkid is /sbin/blkid
[14:46] <smoser> aren't you?
[14:46] <robjo> I do not know if we decided to fiddle with it or the Ubuntu systemd maintainers
[14:46] <smoser> https://coreos.com/os/docs/latest/using-environment-variables-in-systemd-units.html
[14:47] <robjo> no, where I am actually going with this is a question about he generator itself and why it should exist
[14:47] <smoser> maybe htts not the right link.
[14:47] <smoser> but surely some way you can change the PATH environment of PID1
[14:47] <robjo> but this is not a unit file, it's the generator
[14:47] <robjo> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Generators/
[14:51] <smoser> yeah.
[14:51] <smoser> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.environment-generator.html maybe ?
[14:51] <smoser> i dont know how the path gets set on ubuntu.
[14:52] <smoser> i'm not entirely opposed to adjusting PATH but it just seems like the wrong way to do  things.
[14:53] <smoser> and i am pretty solidly opposed to cloud-init having to set PATH in other places.
[14:54] <robjo> Well I can chase the PATH issue by asking our systemd maintainers and when I have a better understanding we can maybe revisit if needed
[14:54] <robjo> but what I really want to do is drop the generator from my package all together
[14:55] <robjo> based on me looking through the code ds-identify tries to do what each data source is doing already
[14:56] <robjo> so why probe twice?
[14:56] <robjo> if ds-identify doesn't run the Python code still finds the datasource and gets it's data
[14:56] <smoser> correct. it is supposed to operate without ds-identify.
[14:57] <smoser> the thing that it can't do without ds-identify is completely disable itself.
[14:58] <smoser> ie, if ds-identify doesn't find anything then cloud-init.target will not be targetted.
[14:58] <smoser> and no bottlenecks imposed as a result of that.
[14:58] <smoser> and no python code run at all in boot
[14:58] <smoser> ie, you can install cloud-init on your ubuntu desktop and its completely inert (other than the generator running).
[14:59] <smoser> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-May/153296.html
[14:59] <robjo> fair, but if I impose cloud-init should be used/installed and services enabled only in an environment where it is actually useful then the "check if I should run" becomes kind of unnecessary
[15:03] <smoser> that is true. bu the value of ds-identify also comes from trimming the DataSource list.
[15:03] <smoser> so less code runs in python too
[15:03] <smoser> but more code in shell
[15:03] <smoser> so...
[15:04] <robjo> problem is if it fails the Python code, which in this environment then actually works, never gets a chance
[15:05] <robjo> in a test where we set the full path ds-identify still failed, i.e. no data source was found
[15:05] <smoser> yeah.
[15:05] <smoser> i'm fine with simply PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin
[15:06] <smoser> but honestly you should chase having a sane environment
[15:06] <robjo> but when forced in that environment, i.e. ds-identify returned true, then cloud-init found a datasource and configuration worked
[15:06] <smoser> because i'm not the only person that assumes sane environment
[15:06] <robjo> I will chase that, composing an e-mail this minute
[15:09] <smoser> i'm pretty confident that ds-identify as it is riht now will improve boot speed
[15:11] <robjo> but we run the risk of not configuring the system at all
[15:23] <smoser> well, thats a bug. we can fix it. you can just hard code the PATH.
[15:23] <smoser> when using software, you do run the risk of bugs.
[15:24] <smoser> but suggesting you should not use software because of that is not really an option
[15:32] <smoser> robjo: fyi
[15:32] <smoser> $ sudo cat /proc/1/environ | tr '\0' ' '  ; echo
[15:32] <smoser> HOME=/ init=/sbin/init recovery= TERM=linux drop_caps= BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-20-generic PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin PWD=/ rootmnt=/root
[15:33] <smoser> i'd be interested in seeing what you have there.
[15:34] <smoser> interesting. but in a container:
[15:34] <smoser> $ lxc exec x1 cat /proc/1/environ | tr '\0' ' '; echo
[15:34] <smoser> container=lxc
[15:34] <smoser> thats *it* no PATH there. i'm not sure what ds-identify has for path there. i'll check.
[15:36] <smoser> even in that container environment i get
[15:37] <smoser>  PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[15:38] <smoser> and... robjo seems like it comes from
[15:38] <smoser> # strings /lib/systemd/systemd | grep PATH=
[15:38] <smoser> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[15:39] <robjo> cat /proc/1/environ | tr '\0' ' '  ; echo produces a very long list of things, weeding through it
[15:39] <smoser> thats odd.
[15:40] <robjo>  PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
[15:41] <smoser> in systemd:
[15:41] <smoser>  src/basic/path-util.h
[15:41] <robjo> which does make sense because in the images we build there is no issue with ds-identify or I would have found this a while ago
[15:41] <smoser> #define DEFAULT_PATH_NORMAL "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin"
[15:42] <robjo> so that makes me think that the party complaining is also fiddling with stuff they shouldn't
[15:45] <smoser> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/tree/src/basic/path-util.h#n31
[15:46] <robjo> smoser: thanks for digging all of this up much appreciated
[15:47] <smoser> upstream trunk much harder to read
[15:47] <smoser> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/src/basic/path-util.h
[17:09] <smoser> blackboxsw: https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/343738
[17:09] <smoser> updated
[19:19] <blackboxsw> smoser: approved the above,  parting comment for us to chat about some standup
[19:21] <blackboxsw> just confirmed this yaml.load issue in cloud-init for utf-8 https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1768600 seems fairly signification for someone presenting their own runcmd info that could contain printable utf-8 chars.
[19:48] <smoser> :-(
[20:25]  * blackboxsw is working up a quick unit test for robjo
[20:25] <blackboxsw> thx for the branches
[20:26] <robjo> blackboxsw: thanks
[20:27] <robjo> there didn't appear to be a distinct place where we test the config for stage handling
[20:27] <robjo> and the tests that run through stages.py confused me :(
[20:28] <blackboxsw> yeah robjo that stuff (init/stages/and cli main) are pains and not very testable. I started some of it in cloudinit/cmd/tests/test_main.py which I'm adding to now for your branch.
[20:28] <blackboxsw> so it's hard to tell people they should add tests there because those tests and ugly/mock hells
[20:29] <blackboxsw> yeah I want cloudinit/tests/test_stages.py, but again haven't yet done that overhaul to pull all tests from tests/unittests to the appropriate tests subdir next to each cloudinit module
[20:29] <blackboxsw> it's going to be a long manual crank on that one
[22:00] <dpb1> blackboxsw: for the metadata unification.. do we have the 6-10 fields that we want to name?
[22:00] <dpb1> instance_id, etc
[22:13] <blackboxsw> dpb1: currently we have only
[22:13] <blackboxsw>  "v1": {
[22:13] <blackboxsw>   "availability-zone": null,
[22:13] <blackboxsw>   "cloud-name": "nocloud",
[22:13] <blackboxsw>   "instance-id": "myb1",
[22:13] <blackboxsw>   "local-hostname": "myb1",
[22:13] <blackboxsw>   "region": null
[22:13] <blackboxsw>  }
[22:13] <dpb1> ok
[22:13] <dpb1> thx
[22:14] <dpb1> is that in a card somewhere?
[22:14] <blackboxsw> I think we are missing probably around 5 fields from the initial cut I took. I'll draw up a doc and card (as I have to refresh my memory on the cloud-instance data we see nowadays
[22:15] <blackboxsw> I only spiked in NYC and left it to undocumented as I initially hit some datasource generalization issues that'd have to be resolved first
[22:16] <blackboxsw> dpb1: I did capture std instance-data on a few clouds here https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feeding-cloud-init-data-to-snapd/3474/21   because as you know, if it's not on snapforums it doesn't exist ;)
[22:17] <blackboxsw> I'll do a quick review of those to see what we can pull out of the 'ds' related keys provided by the datasources
[22:18]  * blackboxsw was thinking instance.type, network related information as initial attributes
[22:21] <blackboxsw> but there will be bit of work first to pull that content out of certain datasources , like OpenStack's network_data.json needs to be represented in our instance-data.json format
[22:30] <dpb1> the snapcraft forum?
[22:30] <dpb1> what
[22:30] <dpb1> blackboxsw: your pastebin's there are meant to be your example of what *would* show up, right?


[00:16] <SpeakerToMeat> Hi all.
[00:16] <SpeakerToMeat> Question, 22.04 should be LTS, right?
[00:17] <RikMills> yes
[00:17] <SpeakerToMeat> If I want to download and install now, I guess it would be equally easy/possible to move to 22.04 from either 21.10 or 20.04 no? In that case I think I preffer to download 21.10 right now and after getting 22.04 switch to a lts cycle
[00:19] <oerheks> you *can* test 22.04 if you want.
[00:19] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[00:19] <oerheks> support in #ubuntu-next
[00:20] <SpeakerToMeat> Hmmm maybe, but I think I'll go with 21.10 until 22.04
[00:20] <SpeakerToMeat> is out offitially
[00:20] <SpeakerToMeat> thanks
[00:20] <oerheks> oke, have fun!
[00:20] <SpeakerToMeat> And then spend the next year trying to stop myself from moving off 22.04 to a non lts
[00:21] <SpeakerToMeat> though really for a non-server, non lts should be ok, even if this is half home computer half workstation
[02:46] <user52> Hello
[02:46] <user52> i need help about kubuntu website
[02:48] <user52> Why u dun help mez
 Hello all... Does anyone have experience with brother dcp t420w driver installation? Have tried downloading the driver from brother website and install it. Kubuntu detect the printer but when tried to test the printer with test print (from cups and printer settings) it won't print.
 What should I do?
 Tried searching for the solution through Google still doesn't give anything.
 I'm using kubuntu 20.04 lts version
[13:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:44] <SpeakerToMeat> Moin
[13:44] <SpeakerToMeat> But I'm not a morning folk
[13:59] <mparillo> Is cups enabled and started?
[14:09] <SpeakerToMeat> mparillo, I don't think cups gui clients will allow you to get to the print test page option/run it if it doesn't have a running (local or remote) cups to connect to
[14:40] <mparillo> Thanks. Then I am out of suggestions. Once upon a time I bumped into a problem where I was not in the group of users that were permitted to print, but that was on a different distro. Was never a problem for me on Kubuntu.
[14:56] <SpeakerToMeat> I've had some horrible dealings with cups drivers ages ago, but I'm too rusty to be helpful
[16:23] <user|48> feature-tour in site gives 404
[16:23] <user|48> :(
[16:23] <user|48> 404
[16:23] <user|48> Sorry, but the requested resource was not found on this site. Please try again or contact the administrator for assistance.
[16:26] <hello73> wait
[16:31] <user|48> ok
[16:34] <Maik> user|48: it has been like that for a week now, they have been notified
[17:37] <mparillo> Thanks for the notification. the Feature Tour now works for me.
[20:55] <bastiaan> Hi all, since latest updates on Kubuntu 20.04, I can't unlock the screen locker without mouse click anymore. Before I just could type password and done.
[20:57] <bastiaan> Is this a known issue? Quite annoying to me, for I was used to be able to quickly unlock my screen
[21:15] <bastiaan> seems to occur after an update of Plasma from 5.18.5 to 5.18.8
[21:47] <bastiaan> just to be sure, filed a bug about it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/+bug/1961447
[22:51] <Guest2895> My kubuntu OS will not recognize or automatically connect to my router/modem at home. Where do I start to rectify this problem?
 enable DHCP
[22:53] <Guest2895> how do I do that?
[22:57] <valorie> !dhcp
[22:57] <valorie> Guest2895: ^^
[22:58] <valorie> that should have been automatically installed and enabled tho
[22:59] <oerheks> check your router, Guest2895
[23:00] <Guest2895> had network connection this AM, then did my updates for kubuntu, and then network connections quit "connecting" at all. Have restarted router twice. Rebooted once. Still will not connect with my router.
[23:00] <genii> right-click on Networks icon in bar, Configure Network Connections... Scroll to bottom and click the + to add a connection, choose the appropriate selections
[23:01] <genii> You could try at commandline to just release and renew with the dhclient command
 s10T


[02:30] <trinikrono> hey all
[02:30] <trinikrono> is there anything left to triage lol
[03:07] <drew212> trinikrono: on yes, there is tons...
[05:13] <drew212> ddecator: are you around?
[05:13]  * micahg is around :)
[05:14]  * ddecator is around as well :)
[05:14] <ddecator> just got back too, good timing
[05:14] <drew212> ddecator: or micahg: check out bug 592658, he attached a txt file with something, but its a bunch of jargon i dont understand, should i ask him to use apport to collect a crash report?
[05:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 592658 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox crashed using java (I suppose...) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592658
[05:16] <ddecator> a backtrace done without much debugging info :p
[05:16] <micahg> ddecator: it's flash, you're not going to get much
[05:16] <ddecator> true
[05:16] <drew212> should i ask for a crash report? or how should i proceed, i'm not familiar with a "backtrace" =P
[05:16] <micahg> drew212: user should update to flash 10.1
[05:17] <ddecator> yup yup
[05:17] <drew212> how can you tell what flash he's using?
[05:17] <micahg> drew212: profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt
[05:18] <drew212> he's using 10.0?
[05:19] <micahg> drew212: yep, or just hasn't restarted FF since the update
[05:19] <ddecator> 10.0 r45
[05:20] <drew212> alrite, well i gotta run, the fiance is pulling me away =X
[05:20] <ddecator> they take priority :p
[10:34] <trinikrono> hey all
[10:34] <trinikrono> mornings bug 458400 should be wishlist?
[10:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 458400 in gnucash (Ubuntu) "gnucash is much better than its description (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/458400
[15:22] <Joshua_Roberts> hello, does anyone have any information that may help me work around this bug in ubuntu 10.04 ?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/575296
[15:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 575296 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu boot delay - nForce error (affects: 22) (heat: 128)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:25] <om26er> Joshua_Roberts, are you sure its a kernel bug?
[15:26] <Joshua_Roberts> I don't know.  It is either an nvidia driver bug or maybe grub from the research I have done.
[15:26] <om26er> Joshua_Roberts, this happens on clean install or after install nvidia drivers?
[15:26] <Joshua_Roberts> clean install, after updating bios
[15:27] <Joshua_Roberts> previous bios version would not allow 64 bit os to see more than 4 gigs of ram
[15:27] <Joshua_Roberts> error on boot is nforce2_smbus 0000:00:03.2: error probing SMB1  and again for SMB2
[15:29] <om26er> Joshua_Roberts, googling show the message is not a bug
[15:30] <Joshua_Roberts> ok, then what am I supposed to do to work around it?  The only information I have found is in the bug report link I posted.  But, I don't seem to be able to find a fix.
[15:30] <om26er> you can suppress this message by putting "acpi_enforce_resources=lax" as grub parameter.  but the delay could be someother issue
[15:30] <Joshua_Roberts> ok.
[15:45] <Joshua_Roberts> reinstalled 9.04 error does not persist.  It is specific to something with 10.04
[16:11] <psusi> how can you search for bugs that do NOT have a given tag?  like apport-crash?
[16:11] <psusi> there's a whole lot of them cluttering up the new bug queue
[16:15] <micahg> psusi: we hav e 40k bugs in the new bug queue :)
[16:16] <psusi> micahg: yea, and a ton of them are bloody segv auto reports that seem to be about as useful as a one legged man in a butt kicking contest ;)
[16:16] <psusi> especially when they are from < 8.10
[16:17] <micahg> psusi: try sorting either by bug heat or by newest first
[16:17] <psusi> ahh, the text is a bit misleading at first, but the advanced search you can prefix the tag with a - to find bugs that do NOT have the apport-crash tag
[16:18] <psusi> though it seems there are a bunch that were filed without the tag, and instead have [apport] in the title...
[16:56] <Kangarooo> thekorn: yesterday i tryd that apport-cli and also ubuntu-bug from tty and both were unsucsesful uploading. they stopped a little later after 90% but i dont think that it went to 100% couse it didnt went so long as just 10% went and gave 500 eror but in ubuntu-bug gui it showed all full so 100% but i think it showed incorect before showing 500 error
[17:19] <Joshua_Roberts> I am really starting to think that the nforce2_SMBUS 000:00:03.2: Error parsing SMB1 error is related to grub2...
[19:09] <dgtombs> hi all
[19:15] <ddecator> hi dgtombs
[19:16] <dgtombs> is the ubuntu-bugcontrol list a little slow? i sent in an application yesterday but it doesn't seem to be posted yet
[19:17] <ddecator> it might be, i don't remember getting an application in my inbox yesterday..
[19:17] <ddecator> did it bounce back to you?
[19:45] <dgtombs> can i get Triaged for bug 481312? thanks
[19:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 481312 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Laptop suspends when I connect/disconnect AC (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 40)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/481312
[19:45] <dgtombs> g-p-m task, in case i get to adding the upower task first :)
[19:49] <shadeslayer> hi can someone mark bug 595956  as wishlist?
[19:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 595956 in amarok (Ubuntu) "mp3 rip feature (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595956
[19:58] <micahg> jcastro: ping
[20:04] <shadeslayer> hmm.. ive added a comment now,can someone please mark bug 595956 as wishlist?
[20:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 595956 in amarok (Ubuntu) "mp3 rip feature (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595956
[21:10] <bcurtiswx_> Test
[21:10] <bcurtiswx3> bcurtiswx3: test
[21:20] <bcurtiswx3> bcurtiswx: test
[21:22] <bcurtiswx3> bcurtiswx: Test2
[21:22] <arand> bcurtiswx3 bcurtiswx: This might not be the best place for testing ;) ..
[21:22] <bcurtiswx3> arand: :(
[21:23] <dgtombs> try #ubuntu instead for support ;-)
[21:23] <bcurtiswx3> haha, im testing IRC connections... this is what i auto-join... guess i can go to #bcurtiswx-test :P
[21:41] <yofel> meh, I can't get plasma to remember the widget sizes on the desktop :/
[21:41] <yofel> seems to crash on quit
[22:59] <DrKenobi> Hi! I've just send Bug #362231 upstream, could someon set the satus as Triaged please?
[22:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 362231 in gnome-games (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Freecell Solitaire message (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362231
[23:04] <sbeattie> DrKenobi: done and thanks.
[23:04] <DrKenobi> sbeattle thank u!


[00:30] <Alumin> the Kubuntu (12.04.3, alternate, 64-bit) installer is telling me it needs a firmware file (a ".ucode" file) for some of my hardware (judging by the filename, for wifi)
[00:30] <Alumin> I have retrieved the file it's asking for, put it on a second USB drive (the first is my installation media) and inserted it, but when I say "yes" to "do you want to load this file", it just thinks for a minute and goes back to the same question
[00:31] <Alumin> where do I need to put this .ucode file so that the installer will see it?
[00:37] <Alumin> ok that's odd...I pulled up a different virtual console and for some reason the system was failing to mount my (MSDOS partition table with a 64GB FAT32 partition/filesystem) thumb drive
[00:38] <Alumin> I manually mounted it at /media (with simply "mount /dev/sdc1 /media", which worked fine) and went back to the installer, hit return...victory!
[00:40] <Alumin> *sigh* unfortunately, still no WPA2-Enterprise support, so I can't connect.  I do have wpa_supplicant at the shell, but can I bring up the wifi manually in such a way that the installer will use it without having configured it itself?
[00:42] <Alumin> nope, the installer's wpa_supplicant build doesn't support PEAP
[00:42] <sithlord48> Alumin: if you have wifi when you run the installer you have wifi for the installer
[00:43] <Alumin> ok
[00:43] <Alumin> so I guess that makes the question, can I get wifi?  heh
[00:44] <sithlord48> if you can do it via the cli. if not a wire is good (if possible)
[00:45] <Alumin> yeah, this whole performance is to try and avoid snarfing one of my coworkers' network jacks
[00:46] <Alumin> yeah, I'm not sure I can do it via the CLI.  I commented out "eap=PEAP" in my wpa_supplicant config file and that got it to start without errors, but it's still not connecting
[00:46] <Alumin> presumably because that functionality is, y'know, necessary.  :)
[00:46] <sithlord48> using iwconfig?
[00:48] <sithlord48> Alumin:  if your using iwconfig are you also remembering to run dhclient on the interface afterwards?
[00:50] <Alumin> maaaaaaaybe :)
[00:50] <Alumin> ok, so that was part of the problem...but I'm also having this problem:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1899352
[01:01] <sithlord48> Alumin:  that one im not so sure about
[01:02] <Alumin> yeah, me either
[01:02] <Alumin> y'know, you'd think by 2013 this sort of thing would be a bad memory
[01:04] <sithlord48> Alumin:  is there a reason you don't use the normal installer?
[01:04] <Alumin> three, actually
[01:04] <sithlord48> Alumin:  im using wpa2 for my network and iwconfig "just works" when i give it the info
[01:05] <Alumin> first, because it doesn't have any wifi support at all in the installer
[01:05] <sithlord48> that being said i have not used the alternate installer in a long time
[01:05] <Alumin> second, no support for encrypting the entire disk (just /home)
[01:05] <Alumin> third, no LVM support
[01:05] <Alumin> yeah, if I had regular WPA2-PSK I'm sure I'd be fine
[01:05] <Alumin> unfortunately this is WPA2-Enterprise
[01:06] <sithlord48> 1. use the try kubuntu option and connect then click the installer on the desktop
[01:06] <Alumin> I'd rather not do that...I don't know enough about full-disk encryption to set it up myself after the fact
[01:06] <Alumin> although that's good to know you can do that...hadn't thought of that
[01:06] <sithlord48> and iirc last time i installed on my laptop i did use LVM encryption as an checkable option
[01:07] <sithlord48> durring set up let me runn the installer in a vm and check that for you
[01:07] <Alumin> thanks, but don't spend any more time on it
[01:07] <Alumin> I'm fixin' to go home for the day :)
[01:07] <sithlord48> ah but i see your using 12.04 . it might be in 12.10 it was added or 13.04
[01:08] <sithlord48> either way good luck with it .
[01:08] <Alumin> thanks
[01:08] <Alumin> I'm just gonna hijack my cube neighbour's Ethernet jack when I come in in the morning
[01:08] <Alumin> :P
[01:08] <sithlord48> lol
[01:09] <Alumin> well
[01:09] <Alumin> that or just install without the network and get my updates later
[01:09] <Alumin> which at this point I probably should have just done
[01:09] <sithlord48> i find its easer to just do it all at onece
[01:09] <Alumin> yeah, that was my thinking
[01:09] <sithlord48> and either way you still have updates when you reboot some times
[01:09] <Alumin> WPA2-Enterprise is a real pain point...for me, at least
[01:10] <Alumin> the only way I've ever been able to get it working is by running wpa_supplicant directly from the command line
[01:10] <Alumin> never been able to get knetworkmanager or wicd to talk to it
[01:10] <sithlord48> that is weird.
[01:11] <Alumin> luckily I don't have to wifi much at work
[01:11] <Alumin> when I'm at home on WPA2-PSK it's fine
[01:11] <Alumin> and every other WAP I use
[01:12] <Alumin> just doesn't work at work 'cause we have -Enterprise here
[01:13] <Alumin> anyway, thanks for thinking about it anyway
[01:13] <Alumin> I actually did remember I had to run dhclient manually, but only a split-second before you mentioned it :P
[01:47] <kkkkkk> hi ,all, i am using kde 4.11.2 and upgraded from 4.8.5 and dolphin is asking for password everytime i tried to mount drive. how to solve that, i have also GNOME desktop installed and nautilus is not asking for password, so policy kit  rules are right there, what could be the problem? i have seen many bug reports but didn't find the effective solution, how to solve that
[01:47] <kkkkkk> i have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:14] <kkkkkk> any idea when 4.11.3 will be available to ubuntu
[02:14] <kkkkkk> kde 4.11.3 is not showing in updates
[02:14] <kkkkkk> and i am using  4.11.2 and it is buggy
[02:18] <kkkkkk> i suspect, i need to re-install the system, but i am looking for a solution
[02:22] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: it's available in the kubuntu-updates PPA for saucy
[02:23] <tsimpson> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[02:31] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: really, kde 4.11.3 is available, i added once and only 4.11.2 is available http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
[02:34] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: 4.11.3 for Saucy is in the updates PPA, 4.11.3 for Raring is in the backports PPA
[02:42] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i am using LTS, precise
[02:42] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i went for breakfast, sorry for late reply
[02:44] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: in that case I think 4.11.2 is the highest version available
[02:45] <kkkkkk> tsimpson: i read somewhere in the forums that 4.11.3 will be shown on kubuntu website news and there is no news so far
[02:47] <tsimpson> kkkkkk: yes, but 4.11.2 is the latest available for precise
[02:48] <tsimpson> it was announced as available in October
[03:53] <Nilabhra> hey guys need help here, I am having probs viewing photos in facebook from kubuntu, most image are not coming, I tried tracerouting to their url, says unknwon host, I checked the hosts file too all okay... tried both firefox and rekonq ... my winodws is is loading the pcis all fine
[03:53] <Nilabhra> ^ anyone?
[09:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:09] <Taduro> What amount of memory my system is using → http://susepaste.org/55638429
[10:09] <Taduro> What I'm doing → http://susepaste.org/30242002
[10:09] <Taduro> Please, don't tell me again about the disk cache because this is not that.
[10:11] <lordievader> Taduro: Can you pastebin the output of "free -m"?
[10:12] <Taduro> lordievader: http://susepaste.org/23686763
[10:14] <lordievader> Taduro: As you can see 1500Mb is used for cache. So yes, it is cache.
[10:14] <lordievader> Taduro: 112Mb is actual unused and free.
[10:16] <Taduro> lordievader: But when I open one more app, the computer freezs
[10:16] <apachelogger> Taduro: you again have no cache
[10:17] <apachelogger> eh, swap
[10:17] <apachelogger> swap is off again
[10:17] <apachelogger> also I think some plasma applet may be leaking memory
[10:17] <lordievader> Might also be faulty memory.
[10:19] <lordievader> Taduro: And as apachelogger suggests swap is usefull for a 2Gb machine. You quickly run out of memory and then you will get OOM-killers if you don't have swap.
[10:21] <Taduro> apachelogger: you know I enabled it the other day :S
[10:21] <Taduro> I don't undertand that.
[10:21] <apachelogger> not permanently it seems :P
[10:22] <apachelogger> you'll have to add the partition to /etc/fstab
[10:22] <lordievader> Taduro: Is there a line for swap in /etc/fstab?
[10:22] <apachelogger> something along the line of `/dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0`
[10:22] <apachelogger> replace sda2 with the parititon id of your swap
[10:22] <Taduro> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[10:22] <Taduro> UUID=66c2ddbb-58f0-4b4b-972d-39da0290a165 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:23] <lordievader> Taduro: Is that the correct UUID?
[10:25] <Taduro> from lshw → http://susepaste.org/88299287
[10:25] <Taduro> lordievader: I don't know how to check if is the correct UUID
[10:25] <lordievader> Taduro: Does the UUID from this command "blkid `fdisk -l|grep swap|cut -d" " -f1`" match the one in /etc/fstab?
[10:27] <Taduro> /dev/sda5: UUID="80efe315-3d51-460c-a295-8cbf4adc829d" TYPE="swap"
[10:27] <Taduro> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[10:27] <Taduro> UUID=66c2ddbb-58f0-4b4b-972d-39da0290a165 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:27] <Taduro> lordievader: nope
[10:28] <lordievader> Taduro: Ok, then change the UUID line in /etc/fstab with the one you just got from the blkid command and reboot.
[10:28] <lordievader> Taduro: Swap should then be mounted correctly.
[10:29] <Taduro> Let's see, thank you very much.
[10:29]  * Taduro is going to reboot!
[10:58] <Taduro> I'm here again :)
[10:58] <Taduro> Do you guys know when kubuntu starts using swap?
[11:03] <lordievader> Taduro: When it is running out of ram. Could you pastebin the output of "free -m" again?
[11:04] <Taduro> yes lordievader http://susepaste.org/16879972
[11:04] <lordievader> Taduro: Your swap is enabled :)
[11:05] <tsimpson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq should help explain
[11:15] <Taduro> I'm going to try if it freezes now..
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:45] <Avihay> I have annoying stuttering in flash. it starts after a long while when the computer is on, and it seemed to happen only in flash, and it seemed to intensify over time. I tried killing all flash instances, but tit didn't solve the problem, only a reboot did
[13:47] <Avihay> I started plaing FTL, and noticed it would crash without warning, and that the crashes correlated to when I start having flash problems. ran it in the terminal, and FTL complained about mixing base sounds
[13:47] <Avihay> well, I can 1+1=4 like the next guy
[13:48] <apachelogger> that doesn't sound right
[13:48] <Avihay> so I @ pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio --start    and all the problems are solved
[13:49] <apachelogger> well, since both flash and ftl are propietary software I am not sure how we can help
[13:50] <apachelogger> maybe report the issue to the pulseaudio people
[13:50] <Avihay> apachelogger: one of my math teachers proved to the class that 1+1=4 , with no apparent mistakes, so restarting pulse it is
[13:51] <apachelogger> that doesn't sound right either :P
[13:51] <Avihay> I wasn't requesting help, I was posting it here for anyone who might encounter a similar flash stuttering
[13:52] <Avihay> yhe, stuttering videos really don't sound right
[13:52] <apachelogger> well, seeing as IRC is non-peristent and knowing about the issue doesn't make it go away in the long run I stand by my suggestion reporting it to pulseaudio
[16:40] <eagles0513875_> hey guys how can i get sftp in dolphin to work with an ssh key?
[16:42] <eugene-chan> hello. can anyone help? How to listen internet radio in Kubuntu? what program? :)
[16:44] <crowell> eugene-chan: amarok
[16:44] <crowell> Playlist->Add stream
[16:44] <eugene-chan> crowell Thanks... :)
[16:45] <eugene-chan> i wish a program with pre-installed 1000+ radio streams. It exist? :)
[16:45] <crowell> I don't know, why don't you make a list and an installer :-)
[16:46] <eugene-chan> oh... i'm starter user only
[16:48] <soee> eugene-chan, you can find a lot of plugins for Amarok that provides list of radio station from selected country for example
[16:49] <eugene-chan> Thank you ^___^
[16:49] <soee> eugene-chan, where are you from ?
[16:49] <eugene-chan> Russia
[16:50] <soee> well check http://kde-apps.org/?xsection=home
[16:51] <soee> and search for radio stations :)
[16:52] <eugene-chan> :)
[19:05] <ezra-s> is there something better and more complete than ARK for a compression tool in kde?
[19:07] <lordievader> ezra-s: What are you missing? For as far as I know is ARK just a gui around tar, unrar or gzip.
[19:07] <ezra-s> lordievader, encryption
[19:08] <ezra-s> lordievader, you can use many other formats to compress if you hit "new" in ark
[19:08] <lordievader> ezra-s: unrar should be capable of that.
[19:08] <ezra-s> lordievader, I was refering to GUI tool for KDE
[19:08] <BluesKaj> tar should as well
[19:08] <ezra-s> sorry for not being specific
[19:09] <ezra-s> it's not that I even need it now really someone asked in #ubuntu and I got curious since I see ark as no encryption options
[19:10] <lordievader> ezra-s: Oh, no idea in that case.
[19:10] <ezra-s> mmm, it's surprising
[19:10] <BluesKaj> encryption and compression are different of course
[19:10] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, I agree
[19:11] <ezra-s> it's just that some compression tools allow encryption
[19:11] <BluesKaj> yes , but why bother , it was fine when space was at a premium
[19:12] <ezra-s> ?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> compression that is
[19:12] <ezra-s> ohh, hehehe, just curiosity
[19:12] <ezra-s> since KDE is always full of options everywhere, it really surprised me see such a simple compression gui tool
[19:13] <ezra-s> wondered about the options
[19:13] <ezra-s> maybe I was missing on the most used tool out there for kde users
[19:13] <crowell> ark can't do encryption?
[19:13] <ezra-s> crowell, If it can I haven't found it :P
[19:14] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. we see so many ppl get into trouble with encryption mistakes , to me it's almost a dangerous practice
[19:14] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, that sounds really weak
[19:14] <crowell> ezra-s: for extracting or compressing?
[19:14] <ezra-s> crowell, compressing
[19:15] <ezra-s> extracting it can
[19:15] <crowell> ezra-s: trying to do what format?
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, any
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, take your pick
[19:15] <crowell> I just use the cli utilities :/
[19:15] <ezra-s> crowell, me too :)
[19:15] <ezra-s> but, aren't you guys surprised?
[19:16] <ezra-s> I'm not really complaining or anything
[19:16] <crowell> I'm a bit surprised
[19:17] <ezra-s> anyways, no biggie, most times it's best to use command line
[19:18] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. weak , how ? perhaps you haven't seen the numbers of ppl with encryption troubles on the various support chats on freenode
[19:18] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, which encryption troubles you mean? like SSL? :P RSA? DH?
[19:19] <ezra-s> like in
[19:19] <BluesKaj> encrypted drives especially
[19:19] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, ecryptfs is more annoying
[19:19] <crowell> more like ecraptfs amirite
[19:20] <ezra-s> I use truecrypt here at work, never a problem
[19:20] <crowell> truecrypt containers or the entire drive?
[19:20]  * ezra-s shocks
[19:20] <ezra-s> did I say truecrypt?
[19:20] <ezra-s> :O
[19:20] <BluesKaj> dunno which encrypt apps are used , i just see them asking for help
[19:22] <ezra-s> sorry I do apologize I meant LUKS
[19:22] <ezra-s> full disk encryption, with LVM and all
[19:22] <Erthe> ezra-s: You should add encryption capabilities to Ark and submit them.  :D
[19:22] <ezra-s> see? no problems at all I even forgot its name :P
[19:23] <ezra-s> Erthe, I have no problem with ark being as it is, I said I wasn't complaining, I was just surprised since everything in KDE has so many options to configure
[19:23] <ezra-s> it all came from someone else asking in another channel and I got curious
[19:23] <Erthe> ezra-s: I understand that, but I'd like to see some encryption options too  :)
[19:24] <ezra-s> BluesKaj, problem comes when you forget the password or masterkey ;)
[19:24] <BluesKaj> ezra-s. no kidding :)
[19:24] <ezra-s> it happened to me once with ecryptfs
[19:24] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[19:24] <ezra-s> changed the password from root and...
[19:27] <ezra-s> Erthe, I use cli 7z
[19:27] <ezra-s> works good
[20:01] <Crisis> i tried to turn on the energy saving - kde control module, but i get an error "Power Management configuration modeule could not be loaded
[20:01] <Crisis> anyone have any ideas
[20:04] <Crisis> ?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Crisis. make sure you have powermgmt-base and upower installed
[20:04] <Crisis> anyway to check that ?
[20:05] <Erthe> Just try to install them
[20:05] <Erthe> sudo apt-get install powermgmt-base upower
[20:06] <Crisis> says i already have them
[20:14] <Crisis> any ideas ?
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> I disabled my bluetooth usinf Fn+F2. Enabled it back. Now it doesn't detect my mouse. :( tried sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> no effect
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> please advise
[20:34] <Crisis> new error unable to contact kded
[20:34] <Crisis> any ideas ?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> Crisis. have you updated/upgraded lateky ?
[20:37] <Crisis> i did a new install yesterday and performed updates as well
[20:38] <BluesKaj> Crisis. , no ideas , sorry
[21:46] <MrSelfDestruct> Can someone help me learn how to use IRC?
[21:46] <MrSelfDestruct> I know this is not the right channel for this kind of question--I am infering--but this is something I should have learned a long time ago...
[21:47] <JohnDoe_1> MrSelfDestruct: Take a look here: http://freenode.net/
[22:38]  * ronnoc is having Kwin issues again with ATI proprietary drivers
[22:38] <ronnoc> Anyone else?
[22:39] <apachelogger> ronnoc: kwin developer said to not use the poprietary drivers
[22:39] <apachelogger> I am left presuming that they don't work well :P
[22:39] <ronnoc> apachelogger:  tell Steam that :p
[22:40] <ronnoc> are you at the sprint?
[23:17] <keithzg> Hmm. I can't seem to get KDE Connect to see my computer here at work. And unfortunately it's one of those things that's supposed to "just work" so there's no way to manually set it up . . .
[23:18] <keithzg> Is it perhaps choking on the VPN?


[12:08] <somerville32> tsmithe: I thought you went to bed :P
[12:08] <tsmithe> hmm
[12:08] <tsmithe> nope
[12:08] <tsmithe> :)
[12:08] <tsmithe> it's not that late!
[12:08] <tsmithe> only 2309
[12:09] <somerville32> If you aren't sleeping, start working on UWN 26 :)
[12:11] <tsmithe> ooh
[12:12] <tsmithe> like last night?
[12:12] <somerville32> Like last night :]
[12:13] <tsmithe> no
[12:13] <tsmithe> remember, i weedled out of it :P
[12:13] <tsmithe> it *was* one am
[12:17] <crimsun> issue 26 makes me weep
[12:17] <tsmithe> ooh why?
[12:17] <crimsun> the very first big thing is Xmas edition.
[12:19] <tsmithe> yeah
[12:19] <tsmithe> that makes me weep too
[12:21] <crimsun> current #26 edited.