[00:09] <LaserJock> yeager: still here?
[00:12] <warp10> Is there a Launchpad admin that can help me? I was changing the team owner and assigned it to the wrong person -___-
[00:15] <emgent> warp10: opnen question on lp or ask kiko, SteveA :)
[00:15] <emgent> s/opnen/open/
[00:20] <Rinchen> warp10, open a question please :-)
[00:22] <warp10> Rinchen: I just hoped to fix this issue in a faster way... anyway, I'll do ask in answer, thank you :)
[00:22] <Rinchen> warp10, we use the questions for tracking purposes and we have someone who monitors them
[00:25] <emgent> hi Rinchen :)
[00:25] <Rinchen> hi emgent!
[00:25] <emgent> anteater with py-la-bu support is out :)
[00:25] <emgent> (beta version)
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #214762 in ubuntu "disable or correct problems with launchpad" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214762
[01:26] <Rinchen> now that is an interesting bug
[01:29] <emgent> Hehehe
[01:29] <mwhudson> extremely coherent
[03:45] <RoAkSoAx> hi all, is LP in maintenance?
[04:30] <Zelut> is there any way to rename (including the URL) my LP hosted project?
[04:31] <mwhudson> Zelut: yes, but you have to get an admin to do it
[04:31] <mwhudson> ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[04:33] <Zelut> thank you
[08:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[08:00] <mdke> morning mpt
[08:01] <stgraber> mpt: you are in European timezone now ? :)
[08:01] <\sh> guys...thx for the rebuild button in ppa section :)
[08:01] <mpt> stgraber, yep, GMT
[08:01] <mdke> ah, welcome back mpt
[08:07] <mdke> is the bzr hosting still slow? I'm committing what I think is only a few lines and it is taking ages
[08:08] <mdke> ah, it's done now. But it certainly took a long time
[08:08] <spiv> mdke: which branch?
[08:08] <spiv> mdke: it shouldn't be slow
[08:09] <mdke> spiv: it was revision 3790 at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu-hardy
[08:09] <mdke> it took I suppose around five minutes, although I wasn't looking very carefully
[08:10] <spiv> mdke: if your bzr is new enough, you can find out how long it took by looking in ~/.bzr.log
[08:10] <spiv> mdke: ah, that branch is in knit format.
[08:11] <spiv> mdke: slow pushes is a known flaw with the design of that format
[08:11] <spiv> mdke: if that branch were upgraded to packs (the default format since 1.0), pushing would be much faster
[08:15] <mdke> spiv: right, I intend to upgrade shortly. I'm surprised thought because in the past pushing has been pretty snappy
[08:16] <spiv> With knits, pushing takes time proportional to the number of files touched.
[08:17] <mdke> ah, I see
[08:17] <mdke> spiv: thanks for explaining
[08:17] <spiv> I see you touched 12 files in that commit.
[08:17] <mdke> yes, small changes but quite a few files touched
[08:17] <spiv> So the push will be roughly 12 slower than touching 1 file, even if the individual changes are small.
[08:17] <spiv> The new format doesn't have this problem :)
[08:19] <carlos> morning
[08:19] <mdke> spiv: cool. We will certainly update once hardy release is out the way
[08:19] <mdke> carlos: morning
[08:21]  * spiv nods
[08:25] <mdke> carlos: I tried to upload some po files as we discussed today, but found that I didn't have permission... only on some languages do I have permission (like Azerbajani)
[08:25] <carlos> hmm...
[08:25] <carlos> I guess I choose the wrong language to check whether you had permissions...
[08:26] <carlos> mdke: let me fix a problem we have with the import queue and we can talk about this after that...
[08:27] <mdke> carlos: ok, no worries. I'll have to go to work shortly, but we can talk another time
[08:30] <carlos> ok
[08:41] <spacepluk> Hi, I'm working on a new spanish translation for ardour, and I'd like to put it into launchpad. Can anybody help me?
[08:46] <carlos> spacepluk: hi, please read https://help.launchpad.net/TranslationsImportPolicy and https://help.launchpad.net/FAQ/Translations
[08:48] <spacepluk> carlos: thanks
[08:48] <carlos> np
[08:49]  * mpt wishes Launchpad would stop inserting the text "Binary package hint: whatever" in his bug reports
[08:51] <spacepluk> Is any Registry Administrator there?
[08:52] <thumper> spacepluk: somewhere there is
[08:57] <spacepluk> thumper: Hi thumper, I'm working on a translation for ardour but the project has no driver assigned on launchpad; and the translations tag leads me to the Registry Administrators Group. Should I send an email?
[08:58] <thumper> spacepluk: ask a question on the launchpad project
[08:58] <thumper> spacepluk: that's the quickest way to get stuff like this done (I think)
[08:59] <spacepluk> thumper: thank you, I'm new to launchpad and I'm a bit lost :)
[09:00] <thumper> spacepluk: ok, np
[10:29] <cody-somerville> Could an lp admin please change the owner of the xubuntu-doc team from registry to myself?
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #215019 in soyuz "Non-virtualised PPA uploads don't get builds for all architectures" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215019
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #215014 in malone/1.2 "Make TracLPPlugin authenticate if required" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215014
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #215021 in soyuz "Rename DistroArchSeries.ppa_suported" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215021
[11:14] <carlos> jtv: hi, you were disconnected from the internal irc server
[11:17] <jtv> carlos: was I?
[11:17]  * jtv pings jtv
[11:17] <jtv> seems like I was...
[11:17] <jtv> That explains why you weren't answering.  :-)
[11:17] <carlos> jtv: ;-)
[11:18] <jtv> carlos: trying to get back in...
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #215050 in rosetta "wish: fixed font option in translation forms" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215050
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #215065 in malone "User should be able to save an advanced search" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215065
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #215066 in malone "User should be able to customize database views" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215066
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #215070 in malone "Groups should have a group-status field at their disposal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215070
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #215109 in launchpad "Let users import maling list archives into Launchpad" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215109
[14:30] <ubotu> New bug: #215118 in launchpad "Odd mailing list resync behavior" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215118
[14:57] <fta> dbgsym in ppa is really^1O missing. there's an old bug requesting this. Is there an ETA or a reason why it's not going to happen anytime soon ?
[14:59] <cprov> fta: the reason is time, sorry. Soyuz team is fully booked till end of July and it's very unlikely that it will be implement before that.
[15:00] <fta> ok, i understand
[15:01] <cprov> fta: did you discuss it with someone in the distro-team ? Having their support, is good way to get it scheduled for implementation sooner.
[15:01] <fta> it's very difficult to ask people to try preview packages (ppa) and provide good backtraces for crashes
[15:02] <fta> i do a lot of mozilla packages with asac
[15:02] <Hobbsee> fta: ie, you need to get someone within canonical interested, then it might happen.
[15:02] <cprov> fta: yeah, I know
[15:02] <Hobbsee> fta: until then, it's at the end of a very long list, no matter how important and useful it is.
[15:03] <fta> hm
[15:03] <cprov> Hobbsee: ehe, you and the crying-baby-talk again ;)
[15:03] <Hobbsee> cprov: nah
[15:03] <Hobbsee> cprov: just realistic.
[15:04] <Hobbsee> cprov: but i've learned to bring up anything i'd like to see with LaserJock now, and not bug you directly.
[15:04] <Hobbsee> speaking of which, did the source.changes security bug ever get scheduled for proper fixing?
[15:05] <cprov> Hobbsee: that's what I'm encouraging fta to do. It's really the best way.
[15:05] <Hobbsee> cprov: LaserJock != canonical ?
[15:06] <cprov> I meant distro-team in general ... I can't tell if being part of canonical matters
[15:06] <Hobbsee> it certainly hasn't been fixed.
[15:06] <Hobbsee> LaserJock's not distro team either, afaik.  or if he is, fta is too.
[15:08] <asac> cprov: hi. has this really not been asked for by distro team members yet?
[15:08] <Hobbsee> cprov: so, consider asac your distro team :)
[15:09] <asac> i think most of the distro team think that this is scheduled and it just lacks time rather than support from the distro team
[15:09] <cprov> asac: I don't know, the only thing I know is that it's not scheduled yet
[15:09] <asac> cprov: ok, ill figure that out
[15:09] <asac> thanks
[15:10] <asac> (figure out if there has been an official request and if not, then why)
[15:10] <cprov> asac: as I said, time is relative, higher priority bugs will be fixed sooner ;)
[15:12] <asac> hehe ... is that news ;) ?
[16:30] <lool> Hey folks
[16:31] <lool> I'm using bzr with launchpad, and I've experienced slownesses today with ubuntu mobile branches
[16:31] <lool> For instance I have a bzr pull running since 25 mns
[16:32] <lool> My bandwidth is used for bzr and only that ATM; I have a not so fast 6 MBits (ATM) ADSL line
[16:32] <lool> And no particular delays in talking to the internet in general
[16:33] <lool> There should only be a dozen or two of revisions between my branch and the latest vcs-import
[16:35] <pochu> I've uploaded eclipse to my ppa but the 3 builds have hanged at the same point, (after) creating a dir... I guess you can/should cancel them, so that they don't sit there forever: https://edge.launchpad.net/~pochu/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=building
[16:35] <pochu> sorry for the trouble
[16:37] <lool> Things like bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-mobile/hildon-desktop/ubuntu => 5 mn 28 secs; a bzr upgrade --dirstate-tags on a sftp:// remote branch in lp took 34 minutes
[16:42] <LaserJock> lool: is it normally faster than that?
[16:42] <lool> In my experience it's not as slow usually
[16:42] <lool> I suspect it's either due to server load, or software upgrade or something
[16:53] <LaserJock> lool: it took me 8min45s for that first branch
[16:54] <LaserJock> so it's apparently not just you
[16:54] <lool> 46 minutes 50 seconds is the time the bzr pull ended up taking
[17:01] <lool> Hi all, time for our weekly meeting
[17:01] <lool> #startmeeting
[17:01] <lool> Ups
[17:01] <lool> ECHAN
[17:01] <emgent> lol
[18:16] <ubotu> New bug: #202133 in trashmob/trunk "This is a test bug, please ignore" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202133
[18:26] <ubotu> New bug: #215235 in malone "Choosing another affected project is confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215235
[19:03] <Rinchen> join us for the meeting in #launchpad-meeting
[19:28] <ubotu> New bug: #215252 in launchpad-bazaar "Help sidebar recommends sftp" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215252
[19:47] <Rinchen> changed mtg date
[19:58] <ubotu> New bug: #133025 in launchpad-documentation "Incorrect text at end of blueprint tour" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133025
[23:41] <clsk> how can I move my code hosted in an svn repository to launchpad's bzr repository? I've seen options for mirroring the SVN repository, but we're planning to do a complete move to bazaar.
[23:41] <clsk> What would be the best way to do that?
[23:42] <rockstar_> clsk, svn-bzr is how I converted them to bzr.  Then you can push to launchpad
[23:42] <rockstar_> Er, bzr-svn...
[23:44] <thumper> clsk: alternatively you could get an import done through LP then disable the svn repo
[23:48] <clsk> disable it from launchpad you mean?
[23:48] <thumper> clsk: where is the repo at the moment?
[23:49] <thumper> clsk: we can also stop the import attempting to pull more
[23:49] <thumper> you can then branch from the import branch and use that as trunk from then on
[23:49] <clsk> sourceforge
[23:50] <clsk> that would be ideal.
[23:50]  * thumper bbs


[04:29] <bkerensa> pleia2: you make it to Denmark?
[05:20]  * bkerensa slaps philballew
[05:20] <bkerensa> what time are we going live today?
[05:20] <philballew> Im free anytime
[05:21] <philballew> id say 11:30 to 12:30 sometime
[05:21] <bkerensa> philballew: well considering nothing starts till 1am our time lets aim for 12:45am?
[05:21] <bkerensa> kk
[05:21] <philballew> ah, I thought it started 12.
[05:21] <bkerensa> philballew: btw did you get the feeling that people ignored remote participants on irc
[05:21] <philballew> i was mistaken
[05:21] <philballew> bkerensa, Yes I did. How many sessions did you go to>
[05:21] <philballew> ?
[05:22] <bkerensa> It seemed aside from the Roundtable session nobody really joined irc on the other sessions and ignored questions
[05:22] <bkerensa> I went to three
[05:22] <bkerensa> nobody answered questions from irc on the two after roundtable
[05:22] <bkerensa> it was disappointing
[05:22] <bkerensa> :(
[05:22] <philballew> okay. I went to three or four and found the same, but I was able to sing up for a few work items as well
[05:22] <bkerensa> It was more like remote listening then it was remote participating
[05:22] <bkerensa> :(
[05:23] <philballew> Id be down for a google hangout to bring up in
[05:23] <bkerensa> yeah
[05:25] <philballew> I got 15 ubuntu/linux books to hand out to my san diego ubuntu people/scale people today
[05:30] <philballew> well i gtg to some college stuff. be back 12:30


[00:06] <Metamorphosis> Is there any Kubuntu-discuss out there?
[00:06] <Metamorphosis> apparently not #kubuntu-discuss
[00:06] <Maik> nope
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[17:47] <webchat20> hi
[17:53] <daftykins> and bye


[02:04] <bluesabre> beta testcases are up, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/402/builds
[06:24] <flocculant> bluesabre: I'll try and get a couple done tonight
[13:57] <ochosi> flocculant: that really looks like a whiskermenu issue with the version of garcon we have in ubuntu. did it really crash the whole panel or just the one plugin?
[16:34] <knome> ochosi, around?
[17:21] <flocculant> ochosi: just crashes whisker from what I can see - it restarted properly after the second go this last time - previously I lost it completely and my customisation of it
[17:22] <flocculant> ochosi: also - I have everything I can think of telling the system to not run a screensaver nor any blanking from the power settings - it still seems to blank the screen
[17:22] <flocculant> lightlocker is removed
[17:30] <flocculant> not laptop of course
[17:35] <flocculant> knome: hi there - always with an issue of late - did you know the wiki was dead?
[17:35] <flocculant> or did I miss some mail somehow ...
[18:25] <flocculant> ochosi: https://streamable.com/ppy3t
[18:43] <flocculant> presentation mode does at least work
[18:55] <knome> flocculant, hmm, no, it should be up
[18:55] <knome> but have to go now, will look at it tomorrow
[18:55] <knome> thanks for the heads up
[19:25] <flocculant> knome: no worries
[22:21] <ochosi> flocculant: you probably have to *enable* display power management, otherwise the X11 default settings are used for screen blanking
[22:22] <ochosi> you can query those settings with "xset -q" in the terminal (check for DPMS and Screen Saver)
[22:22] <Unit193> FWIW, regarding the panel I do not have whisker.
[22:22] <ochosi> well it sounded more like flocculant had an issue with whisker, not with the whole panel (unless i misunderstood his latest messages)
[22:23] <ochosi> so i think you're seeing different issues
[22:23] <ochosi> can you reproduce your bug?
[22:24] <Unit193> I'd have presumed so as well, and not in a reliable way.
[22:27] <ochosi> maybe you can check xsession-errors or some other hint?
[22:27] <ochosi> alternatively compile the panel with debug=full and run it for some time and try to reproduce?
[22:28] <Unit193> Indeed, there wasn't much there.
[22:29] <ochosi> :/
[22:29] <ochosi> so i guess without a little more to go on i'm not sure how much i can do...
[22:33] <Unit193> Last update caused the window buttons plugin to freeze, and kill didn't work without -9. :/  Oh yes, I'm not really saying you can, just figured it'd be remiss if I didn't bother to mention it at all, in case someone else had it as well.
[22:34] <ochosi> and that's a plain install of 19.04?
[22:41] <Unit193> Well, not precisely, no.  But it is 19.04