[08:42] <sveinse> Ubuntu or the net in general? ;)
[08:43] <horsebrass> as long as reddit stays up...
[08:43] <Siebjee> Ubuntu.com works here (Holland)
[08:43] <Gareth2> without Ubuntu ... there is no Net ... :(
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: there is also no way to get the network applet
[08:43] <cfhowlett> no FUD = works fine in China ...
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> without resetting everything correct?
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> just going to loose all my customizations
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, nuking your configurations will reset to default.  nn_applet should re-appear
[08:44] <Luyin> without ubuntu, there's still gentoo ;D
[08:45] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: any there is no way to just get it back another way lol sorry i know i sound silly at the moment
[08:45] <export> lol is that even a really reasonable option? XD
[08:45] <Gareth2> :P Luyin
[08:45] <export> oh Ubuntu isn't doing well? Gentoo is obviously the next step for new users. lol
[08:45] <typ> that's so userfriendly
[08:45] <Luyin> hrrhrr
[08:46] <typ> why not just deplay AIX for all users?
[08:46] <typ> deploy*
[08:46] <Luyin> well, I've switched from ubuntu to gentoo some while ago, at least for about half a year. taught me a lot. now back at ubuntu for convenience reasons only.
[08:46] <ObrienDave> us.archive.ubuntu.com works in Oregon
[08:50] <Psil0Cybin> also
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove this amazon icon from my application list...
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> what on earth
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> where did that come from?!
[08:51] <horsebrass> @Psil0Cybin just right click it and unlock from the bar
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> its coming from unity-webapps-runner
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove tht program
[08:52] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, unity?  logout.  choose xfce / xubuntu session.  login.  no unity running
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay but that is what i do via default
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove unity-webapps-runner
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> can i purge the package?
[08:53] <horsebrass> no
[08:53] <horsebrass> webapps-runner does other things too
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, was this originally ubuntu?  and you added the XFCE interface?
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> originally
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> but can i re-remove this stuff
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> like i did before
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> how can  ifind out what package its coming from or how can i remove the stuff i did before?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, that's where the amazon stuff came from then
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: but before i remed it via a package
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> and i was able to remove unity lens's and remove all these icons, forgood..
[08:57] <Psil0Cybin> wierd it cannot location unity-webapps-runner
[09:03] <horsebrass> we're back in business people
[09:04] <horsebrass> repos still down though
[09:04] <Gareth2> repo's in  the UK are still quite slow, but everything else looks like its up
[09:05] <sveinse> security.ubuntu.com is still not responding (from Norway)
[09:05] <horsebrass> @sveinse seems to be just the TLDN that's working again now actually
[09:05] <blackboxcoder> hey folks, i've got some trouble. i have an ubuntu-server with apache2 (VPS) and have a domain on another hoster. the domain is redirected to the vps, works fine. now i have create a subdomain for my domain in apache but this still dont works
[09:05] <horsebrass> curses
[09:06] <Shadow}}> Hello; Might I ask what the main chat channel is on this server?
[09:07] <nard> hey, is something weird going on with security.ubuntu.com? I can't connect to it from two different devices on different networks.
[09:07] <Shadow}}> How can i attempt to use it?
[09:08] <horsebrass> @nard everything but the ubuntu top level domain is down
[09:08] <Shadow}}> Interesting... So is alot of AI bots...
[09:08] <nard> horsebrass, gotcha. Thanks, so that will be the weirdness.
[09:08] <horsebrass> so you'll be able to reach ubuntu.com, but not the repos or community.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <horsebrass> yep
[09:09] <xmj> moin
[09:09] <xmj> where would i find the developers channel (specifically, packaging) ?
[09:09] <horsebrass> there's a running thread on Reddit keeping people up to speed
[09:09]  * cfhowlett just completed a dist-upgrade with no problems using China mirrors
[09:10] <horsebrass> @cfhowlett unfortunately not an option in my particular corporate environment
[09:12] <somsip> !packaging | xmj
[09:13] <xmj> somsip: i'm looking for the IRC channel
[09:13] <somsip> xmj: #ubuntu-dev (or -devs) from memory
[09:13] <xmj> thanks
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !devel
[09:13] <somsip> xmj: or maybe there is a link on one of those websites
[09:13] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-devel xmj
[09:14] <somsip> cfhowlett: ta
[09:14] <cslcm> Hi folks. Got a triple-booting MacBook Pro (OSX / Windows / Ubuntu). I've managed to get almost everything working nicely, except nvidia-settings reports "** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no" - does anyone know if it's possible to get PRIME working on a macbook?
[09:15] <xmj> cfhowlett: somsip: helpful! thanks guys
[09:15] <cfhowlett> xmj, happy2help
[09:15] <nard> got a link to the reddit thread? I'm searching for it. As I'm not a reddit user, I'm fighting to find it.
[09:19] <Gareth2> Repos are back in the UK ;)
[09:20] <horsebrass> as are secondary domains
[09:21] <facom> hello
[09:22] <gon_> is there any problem with ports.ubuntu.com?
[09:22] <Gareth2> There was in the UK gon_
[09:22] <cfhowlett> gon_, probably just temporary maintenance.  give it a bit of time
[09:22] <gon_> thanks
[09:24] <yskapell> Hello again guys
[09:24] <yskapell> one last question
[09:24] <yskapell> what is /lib/init/upstart-job ?
[09:31] <Gazmik> are the repo nodes still down?
[09:32] <horsebrass> @Gazmink they're up in the UK - where are you?
[09:32] <Gazmik> us, in california
[09:32] <horsebrass> huh, weird
[09:32] <Gazmik> they've been in and out since about 1 am
[09:32] <Gazmik> for me
[09:33] <horsebrass> it was all fine in Oregon a few minutes
[09:33] <horsebrass> ago
[09:33] <horsebrass> maybe some kind of rolling maintentance
[09:33] <horsebrass> RULES
[09:35] <k1l_> Gazmik: which repos exactly? what does "sudo apt-get update" give you?
[09:35] <Gazmik> trying to get pypar2
[09:36] <Gazmik> via sudo apt-get install pypar2
[09:36] <anon_coward> hi
[09:36] <Gazmik> and then it hangs on waiting for headers at 0%
[09:36] <Gazmik> sudo apt-get update does the same, but at 99%
[09:36] <k1l_> Gazmik: wait there for a bit
[09:37] <Gazmik> kll_: I've been at that for an hour once and 30 minutes once
[09:38] <k1l_> !paste | Gazmik
[09:39] <anon_coward> I have a question, I don't know the procedure here but if anyone is available to help it would be appreciated?
[09:39] <k1l_> anon_coward: just ask if its technical ubuntu support
[09:40] <cfhowlett> anon_coward, ask your ubuntu quesstions
[09:40] <anon_coward> I have automatic updates off but something has updated and I am being told to restart to complete updates
[09:41] <anon_coward> I would like to know what it is before I have something applied that I don't want installed
[09:41] <k1l_> anon_coward: some packages like new servers need a restart to update
[09:43] <anon_coward> is there any way to see what was dowloaded, I have a transaction number from the log file?
[09:43] <Gazmik> thanks for the update reminder kll seems I was finally forced to do so all repos working fine now
[09:44] <k1l_> anon_coward: see the log in /var/log for apt
[09:46] <anon_coward> if you mean history.log then I have checked and there is nothing timestamped that matches syslog
[09:47] <k1l_> anon_coward: ? did you not tell you did a update and some package needs a restart now?
[09:48] <anon_coward> would something try to update if autoupdates are off?  As long as its nothing to worry about then I'll go :)
[09:49] <k1l_> anon_coward: did you run a update or not?
[09:49] <anon_coward> no
[09:49] <k1l_> anon_coward: if autoupdates are off there is nothing than you that makes updates
[09:49] <horsebrass> d
[09:50] <cfhowlett>  anon_coward security updates should be automagic IMHO
[09:50] <anon_coward> there is no chance of someone remotely trying to do so?
[09:50] <idimmu> security updates should never be automagic, ever
[09:51] <anon_coward> the app gnome-user-share desktop tried to launch, failed, then the update was triggered
[09:53] <koell> How do I list packages I installed, but not their dependencies? Just the ones I typed in myself?
[09:54] <koell> I tried dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall but this gives me all the dependencies as well, which is a really huge list
[09:58] <anon_coward> well, I guess I must just have some phantom paranoia left over from my time using ms windows, thanks for the help.
[09:58] <mboeru> hello, anyone know how I can get ethX naming back in ubuntu 14.04.1 ? I have tried the suggestions from here with no luck http://goo.gl/2KMK18
[10:03] <facom> ciao
[10:03] <rgfsdfgr> hi there was a channel about toolchains compiler etc etc anybody remembers the name ?
[10:04] <k1l_> !alis | rgfsdfgr
[10:05]  * rgfsdfgr slaps k1l_ with a large trout.
[10:06] <facom> list
[10:06] <facom> ciao
[10:06] <rgfsdfgr> no
[10:10] <Blenda> Hi all, do you know if EssentialB Mars graphic tablet is supported in Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !tablet
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Blenda, nope not that one ...
[10:10] <cfhowlett> url
[10:11] <Blenda> thanks for your fast answer!
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Blenda, if it's got wacom/intuos foundation then yes
[10:11] <k1l_> Blenda: you could take a look into hcl
[10:11] <k1l_> !hcl | Blenda
[10:11] <mboeru> hello, anyone know how I can get ethX naming back in ubuntu 14.04.1 ? I have tried the suggestions from here with no luck http://goo.gl/2KMK18
[10:12] <napalm_> t
[10:12] <k1l_> but devices not listed there doesnt mean they dont work.
[10:12] <Blenda> cfhowlett, don't know about foundation, i just had a bamboo, and found an EssB Mars for a very low price
[10:13] <Blenda> thanks for all your answers, awesome ;à
[10:13] <cfhowlett> Blenda, have a laptop?  take it to the store and test plug!
[10:13] <Blenda> i don't
[10:13] <Blenda> i think i'll better buy a wacom, just saw it was natively supported
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Blenda, this!
[10:15] <Blenda> you helped not to make a terrible mistake, hum, lets say i have my bamboo, will it run at once in blender, or is there some tweaks to do?
[10:15] <Blenda> i'll ask on blender sry
[10:15] <Blenda> good day all :)
[10:16] <rgfsdfgr> g'day Blenda
[10:28] <XYZAFFA1R> Is there a native .pak manager?
[10:29] <k1l_> XYZAFFA1R: that is a windows package
[10:29] <XYZAFFA1R> kll_, So theres nothing?
[10:30] <k1l_> XYZAFFA1R: if its .pak its not ment for linux anyway. you could try wreckdum or winrar in wine
[10:31] <XYZAFFA1R> kll_, I have something installed that uses .pak files, any ways, when I try to run winrar through wine it doesn't work properly
[10:31] <XYZAFFA1R> I can't really get anything done
[10:33] <giuseppe_> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[10:34] <royalaxeVFY> ahh yes quake, great game
[10:34] <XYZAFFA1R> me?
[10:34] <XYZAFFA1R> It's not quake.
[10:35] <cslcm> Hi folks. I'm triple-booting Win, OSX, Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 11.3 (Late 2013).  I thought I'd share some benchmark results for anyone who is interested. OSX: http://goo.gl/YUbiKH  Ubuntu: http://goo.gl/yI7NYb  Windows OpenGL: http://goo.gl/ydQVgR Windows DX11: http://goo.gl/DEtYvZ   - I am very happy to see that Ubuntu's OpenGL performance matches that of Windows
[10:35] <giuseppe_> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[10:36] <XYZAFFA1R> giuseppe_, why do you keep pasting that?
[10:41] <adsc> i was doing a dist upgrade over ssh, and during the post install config screens, the connection failed, how can I pick up there?
[10:44] <geirha> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <adsc> the lock file still exists
[10:46] <adsc> which means the newly started apt-get dist-upgrade can't get a lock
[10:46] <adsc> can I somehow reconnect to the old process?
[10:47] <Boscop> hi, i connected my wifi usb stick to my computer. lsusb lists it: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter    and lsmod also: r8712u                184158  0    but i can't connect to a network
[10:48] <sqarzz> hi all, I have a question on thunderbird (I know - not ubuntu specific). Does anyone now how I can prevent thunderbird from showing hat you have new mail - when those arrive in the junk or deleted folder?
[10:50] <jhattara> is there a way to reverse the channels in my USB headset ? for some reason my Logitech headset plays right channel to left and left channel to right
[10:50] <sqarzz> the account is lightning up in blue, even though the new mail is in the trash folder
[10:50] <geirha> adsc: is it still running?
[10:51] <geirha> adsc: unless you used tmux or screen, you can't reconnect, no.
[10:51] <adsc> okay
[10:51] <adsc> i'll try to get rid of the locking process and start anew one
[10:51] <geirha> adsc: If it's still running, best you can do is kill it (NOT with -9), then resume with apt-get
[10:52] <adsc> yeah, seems I have to run dpkg configure manually
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> jhattara: http://superuser.com/questions/59481/how-to-swap-stereo-channels-in-ubuntu    maybe, you can always undo the change
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | adsc
[10:54] <mpourhadi_> hey guys i try to run wine for the first time but im getting these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/8025685/
[10:54] <sergiu09876543> hello!
[10:54] <adac> With supervisord, how can I start a program as a certain user?
[10:54] <Tekkkz> hi
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> mpourhadi_: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:55] <Tekkkz> i have a problem with the package manager apt-get
[10:55] <sergiu09876543> how can i install airmon on ubuntu?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !info airmon
[10:55] <sergiu09876543> thanks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:55] <horsebrass> part
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> i am beginner
[10:56] <samuraiRM> web cam on skype help me please this image command lsusb http://postimg.org/image/pbaypv6r7/7707dbc4/
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sergiu09876543: isnt that part of aircrack-ng
[10:56] <gr33n7007h> !info aircrack-ng
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> yes, it is
[10:56] <samuraiRM> http://postimg.org/image/pbaypv6r7/
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: why make an image, when the output is text? Why not use pastebin?
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> i found some informations right now
[10:56] <Tekkkz> the problem is: i need to install the 32bit zlib on 64bit system (lib32z1 & lib32z1-dev) but i have already the 64bit variant on my system (zlib1g), how can i remove this? with apt-get remove zlib1g there is an error cause package dependencies
[10:57] <Tekkkz> how can i remove this?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> sergiu09876543: then you have the package to install.....
[10:57] <timkofu> hi guys
[10:57] <timkofu> whats wrong with this BIND9 RPZ conf? http://dpaste.com/0CH9RR6
[10:57] <sergiu09876543> hi, timkofu
[10:58] <jhattara> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try that
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: if you run cheese do you see yourself?
[10:58] <Tekkkz> im away now thank you for no help
[10:58] <samuraiRM> yes
[10:58] <samuraiRM> whit chese i m seeing me
[10:59] <samuraiRM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8025713/
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> timkofu: let me compare to one of mine. I didnt set this up but I have access to some configs )
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: then its skype being garbage (as usual). Try some LD_CONFIG preload commands with skype, lots of examples online
[11:01] <samuraiRM> thank you
[11:01] <timkofu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> timkofu: before the period on the last lines, don't you need what the name is a cname of....
[11:05] <eeee_> eric
[11:05] <hyde> is there a 32 bit Ubuntu server or minimal ISO available for download?
[11:05] <hyde> x86 32 bit
[11:06] <k1l_> hyde: yes. but only use 32bit if your hardware can only manage 32bit. if it can use 64bit use that
[11:06]  * Madnesscr3w anyone have a good ubuntu root
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !mini
[11:06] <eeee_> Madnesscr3w: ubuntu root?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Madnesscr3w: yes, my ubuntu root is fine.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> eeee_: '/' is also called the filesystem root ;)
[11:07] <eeee_> hehe, i know
[11:07] <swift_ninja> how do i install ubuntu in dual-boot along with windows 8.1
[11:07] <swift_ninja> ?
[11:07] <k1l_> hyde: http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso
[11:07] <winem> hey, just a quick Q. can anyone recommend a good SPSS editor?
[11:07] <hyde> k1l_: can I install 32 bit libraries from repos on a 64 bit Ubuntu?
[11:08] <k1l_> hyde: ubuntu is multiarch. it will run 32bit software as fine as 64bit software on a 64bit system
[11:08] <hyde> to be precise, I will need to use a 32 bit Qt application, preferably with default Ubuntu Qt libs instead of compiling them myself
[11:10] <hyde> hmm... actually, can a 64 bit application use 32 bit libs? I have just one binary 32 bit C library, which I need to link to the application.
[11:10] <cslcm> hyde: no
[11:10] <hyde> yeah, thought so
[11:10] <timkofu> ActionParsnip: im using the example from here http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#id2587883
[11:10] <timkofu> the NXDOMAIN policy
[11:10] <hyde> k1l_: yeah, found it, thank you
[11:11] <BlaXpirit> so I just loaded live cd on a computer that was always running on windows
[11:11] <pitwalker> How can I install Java to work with Chromium? rpm install as deb with alien failed both browsers, but "java -version" worked; currently I installed java through the webupd8team's PPA
[11:11] <BlaXpirit> and internet just works
[11:12] <BlaXpirit> what worries me is that the pppoe connection requires login,password
[11:12] <BlaXpirit> how can it work???
[11:13] <BlaXpirit|m> using irc on mobile... did I miss anything?
[11:14] <jhattara> BlaXpirit|m: nope
[11:15] <geirha> BlaXpirit|m: If I were to guess, I'd say your router is the one loging in
[11:15] <Madnesscr3w> Can someone help me with a VPS
[11:15] <BlaXpirit|m> there is no routrr
[11:15] <BlaXpirit|m> just wire given by provider
[11:16] <BlaXpirit|m> and on windows to connect to Internet you need login and password
[11:16] <k1l_> Madnesscr3w: not if you not ask a technical question
[11:16] <geirha> so you only have one device connected to the internet via that pppoe connection, with a cable straight to the wall?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> BlaXpirit|m: doesnt network manager handle that
[11:16] <sandman13> does Ubuntu includes all the firmwares for external or built-in wifi Adapters?
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> yes. That's how it was on windows
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | sandman13
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> just wire to  computer
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> and u create mew connection  pppoe and stuff
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sandman13, "all" no.  you may need to do a bit of work after install to get wifi.  depends on your chipset
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> then I rebooted to live cd  and internet works immediately
[11:17] <sandman13> cfhowlett: what is included and how to check?
[11:18] <sandman13> dpkg -l | grep wifi ?
[11:18] <jhattara> BlaXpirit|m: is the username/password combination some default for everyone or individual ?
[11:18] <BlaXpirit|m> individual
[11:18] <cfhowlett> sandman13, easiest: boot a live usb.  if it works, you've got it.  if it doesn't work, after install, get a hard wire and look for additional drivers
[11:18] <k1l_> BlaXpirit|m: did you setup that connection on that live system before?
[11:18] <BlaXpirit|m> no
[11:19] <sandman13> cfhowlett: I am thinking of buying a Adapter. I am sure there are better options than that
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !hcl | sandman13, ubuntu hardware certification list
[11:19] <BlaXpirit|m> it was set up on windows xp. then I reboot into live cd for the first time and internet works immediately, as I said
[11:20] <sandman13> cfhowlett: thanks a lot
[11:20] <cfhowlett> sandman13, happy2help
[11:22] <hyde> hmm
[11:23] <hyde> so if free shows > 4 GB of memory on a 32 bit OS, it simply means, PAE is in use?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> BlaXpirit|m: sounds like the XP install is setting up the modem
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hyde: yes
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hyde: 32bit kernel with PAE can use up to 64Gb RAM, but only 3.2Gb per thread
[11:24] <hyde> per thread? or per process?
[11:25] <hyde> oh, well, yeah, all address space between threads need not be shared
[11:25] <hyde> so a 32 bit process could go over 4 gigs total?
[11:25] <hyde> with multiple threads
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> hyde: yes but (for example) nonce Firefox hits 3.2Gb it will start using swap
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> hyde: even though there is lots of free RAM
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> hyde: assuming 32Gb RAM system....
[11:27] <karenflowers> hello im trying the ubuntu cd and i want to try a youtube but there is a missing flash plugin.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:28] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, that's right.  kind of hard to install program to the cd ...
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license (if needed)
[11:28] <karenflowers> cfhowlett: but i apt-get irssi
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: then close browser and reopen
[11:29] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, I could be wrong.  go for it.
[11:29] <hyde> cfhowlett: a live CD does have a writable file system... any changes will just not get preserved over boots (with live USB they can be)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: you can install applications to the system as long as you have RAM to hold it (as the apps are installed to RAMdrive).
[11:30] <cfhowlett> hyde, ActionParsnip THAT's the ticket!  thank you for clarifying!
[11:31] <karenflowers> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:31] <karenflowers> Reading package lists... Done
[11:31] <karenflowers> Building dependency tree
[11:31] <karenflowers> Reading state information... Done
[11:31] <karenflowers> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-installer
[11:31] <karenflowers> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:31] <unopaste> karenflowers you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:31] <k1l_> !find flashplugin-installer
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !info flashplugin-installer
[11:32] <k1l_> karenflowers: what live cd ubuntu version is that exactly?
[11:32] <karenflowers> do i have to put nonfree
[11:32] <karenflowers> install of installer
[11:32] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, open a terminal and report back for this command:  cat /etc/issue
[11:32] <karenflowers> its the 386 version for 2 gb of ram or less
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: yes as it is adobe's flash which is not opensource
[11:33] <k1l_> karenflowers: 32bit has nothing to do with amount of ram. if you got 64bit hardware use 64bit
[11:33] <karenflowers> 14.04.01
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: you need to run:   sudo apt-get update    first
[11:33] <karenflowers> yes i have an old laptop
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: how old. Bet mine's older.....
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:34] <karenflowers> ActionParsnip: ok thank you everyone. i might wait untill i fully install ubuntu before i update
[11:34] <karenflowers> its in my ram and i only have 2 gb
[11:34] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, your laptop might run better with lubuntu/xubuntu.   suggest you test.  luubuntu is optimized for low spec/old machines
[11:35] <karenflowers> acer aspire 5610Z
[11:35] <karenflowers> 1.6 ghz
[11:35] <karenflowers> ok thanks i might try that one. its nice to be able to use things my windows is so slow to load
[11:36] <linuxuz3r> hi
[11:37] <linuxuz3r> i want to move a home folder to a different drive
[11:37] <linuxuz3r> or partition how do i go about doing this
[11:37] <yskapell> is any way to check if the cable is faulty on Ubuntu?
[11:37] <karenflowers> I did an update and then a flashinstall and it still could not find it
[11:37] <yskapell> I cannot ping google.com nor any ip address
[11:37] <k1l_> linuxuz3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[11:37] <eeee_> linuxuz3r: mv /home/<folder> /path/to/destination
[11:38] <yskapell> I brought down & up the interface but still nothing
[11:38] <k1l_> eeee_: its not that easy. see my link for explanation
[11:38] <eeee_> ok
[11:40] <yskapell> if you have any idea let me know
[11:48] <absk007> how to know the version of distro i've installed?
[11:49] <masterkorp> hello
[11:49] <JoeyD104> sup
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> absk007: cat /etc/issue
[11:49] <masterkorp> can't i just dd if=ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M  ?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> masterkorp: yes, assuming you checked sdb is your USB stick
[11:50] <q_a_z_steve> Following this http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/virtual-machines-linux-how-to-attach-disk/ for 14.04.1 VM, and for the life of me I cannot write to the disk!
[11:51] <luizgorak> =i
[11:51] <luizgorak> +i
[11:51] <xubunto> i have a question about what i can remove from a folder for space
[11:51] <JoeyD104> can anyone direct me to basic step by step instructions on how to install ubuntu OS
[11:52] <JoeyD104> ?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> !install
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: uninstall old kernels is a great way to claw back space
[11:52] <JoeyD104> thanks dude! I will probably be back with more questions
[11:52] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: it is a relatively new install
[11:53] <xubunto> within the past year
[11:53] <xubunto> i have an ls -lah on the pastebin
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: you will have installed a few kernels since then. Each kernel uses 120Mb each
[11:54] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: my goal is to allow sys updates. it isnt allowing it right now because the boot is too full
[11:54] <absk007> ActionParsnip, found another nyc one. "lsb_release -a"
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: then you should definately remove old kernels.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: that will remove files from /boot properly
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> absk007: that too
[11:55] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: what is the command to do this?
[11:55] <geirha> xubunto: there's no pastebin
[11:55] <xubunto> geirha: this is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026086/
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: if you run:   uname -r    you will see the running kernel version
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: if you run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image     you will see the installed kernels. You can remove any installed kernel but not the running kernel and not the metapackage, If you pastebin the output of the commands I can advise (if you'd prefer)
[11:58] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: i am not on my linux computer atm, ill use these commands this afternoon
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: no worries, if I'm not about then others can advise how to remove the surplus kernels :)
[11:58] <xubunto> thank you ActionParsnip
[11:58] <geirha> well, you have four kernels you can remove at least. That'll give you some space
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: wait, you can run that command now? and you got the output shown in your pastebin?
[12:00] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: what geirha was looking at was a ls -lah output when i ran it against my /boot folder
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: yes but did you run that just now or is that an old pastebin
[12:00] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: ran it today
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: but can you run more commands right now?
[12:01] <xubunto> no
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: ahh i see, just confused me with the 'later' bit but you had the pastebin from just now..
[12:06] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: i thought it might have been useful to have it on hand
[12:06] <xubunto> so i ran that before i left for work
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: no worries, just threw me off
[12:07] <xubunto> ill likely be back later with some questions about how to properly clear this
[12:07] <xubunto> thanks for hte help geirha and ActionParsnip
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[12:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:12] <samuraiRM> are a step away from solving
[12:12] <stetho> Hi. Does anyone know if there's something "special" you need to do with the DHCP option ntp-servers? My company doesn't allow NTP requests in or out and has its own NTP servers. My DHCP server has option ntp-servers pointing to the internal NTP servers but when I install Ubuntu it waits a long time at the "getting the time from an NTP server" message and, according to the logs, fails. After install is completed if I manually set the servers in ntp.conf
[12:12] <stetho>  everything works fine. So it would seem that the Ubuntu installer is ignoring the option ntp-servers setting or I'm missing another step that I need to take.
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: 2 lines pasted here is ok :)
[12:14] <l337> does anyone know how can I find/set my FQDN on a VPS?
[12:15] <samuraiRM> ok
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> I tried to ping google
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> And got "92 bytes from router (<IP_ADDRESS>): Destination Net Unreachable"
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> Is that confirmation my network is down?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: is it a home network?
[12:16] <jeffreylevesque> Yea sir
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: what is the connection medium please?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: wired ? wireless?
[12:17] <samuraiRM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026266/ you see
[12:17] <jeffreylevesque> Yes sir
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: which!?
[12:17] <Pumpkin-> that is the router at <IP_ADDRESS> saying it has no idea how to get to whatever it was you pinged. If the router just has a LAN side and a WAN (internet) side, it is likely the WAN connection is down.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: ok, thats not the output of the 2 commands I gave.....
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: wired XOR wireless?
[12:18] <jeffreylevesque> Wired
[12:19] <samuraiRM> when i you give me?
[12:19] <samuraiRM> path?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: do you have the activity lights flashing around the Ethernet port on your system?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> [13:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: no path, just 2 commands. very simple.....
[12:21] <samuraiRM> give me the commands?
[12:22] <SiriusLi> Hey, I read on distrowatch that the ubuntu documentation needed polishing.  I was wondering how exactly I might help with that?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> [13:19] <ActionParsnip> [13:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:22] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I have a MacBook, so no lights
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: 3rd time now.
[12:22] <samuraiRM>  cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: standard ethernet ports have lights but hey...its a crapbook
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: YES
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: run those commands, what is the output?
[12:23]  * ActionParsnip despairs
[12:23] <samuraiRM> ivan@ivan-P4i65G:~/Scrivania$  cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:23] <samuraiRM> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[12:23] <samuraiRM> Linux ivan-P4i65G 3.13.0-33-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 29 16:47:17 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: finally
[12:24] <samuraiRM> i m sorry
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: if you run:    LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype      do you see any warnings or errors in the terminal?
[12:25] <samuraiRM> no error
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: ok and can you see yourself in skype?
[12:27] <samuraiRM> yes
[12:28] <samuraiRM> in the home in the output device video http://postimg.org/image/pye77nls7/86c4ccd3/
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: then remove the word 'env' from the .desktop file you pastebinned earlier, job done
[12:30] <samuraiRM> but in the tethttp://postimg.org/image/3ufgxqfzn/76ff3c4e/sing
[12:30] <samuraiRM> test*
[12:30] <q_a_z_steve> I spun up a local Virtualbox version, and mounted a vhd and a vdi besides the originals created during config. Same issue. So what am I missing by using the guide?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: can you repost the URL please, its mixed in with your typing
[12:33] <Guest17918> can anyone help me find out what's my FQDN on a VPS? I already tried using reverse dns lookup
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest17918: are you chatting from it now?
[12:35] <samuraiRM> if i removed the command "env" error
[12:36] <Sven_vB> I bootet trusty thar live cd from USB on a notebook, opened the power settings (sidebar -> tools icon -> battery icon), set both ac/battery mode actions for lid close to "do nothing", closed the preferences dialog, closed the lid... and the notebook began transition to standby mode, thus losing wifi connection. what else can i do in attempt to remote-control it while its lid is closed?
[12:37] <Guest17918> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[12:37] <Guest17918> ActionParsnip: from the VPS? no
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest17918: if you do then you could whois yoursef
[12:38] <gr33n7007h> Guest17918, hostname -f
[12:44] <hyde> on ubuntu server after apt-get install lxde and booting to destkop, trying to insert CD (with VirtualBox but I don't think that makes a difference), I get permission denied. The current user is member of the cdrom group.
[12:44] <hyde> what else might be needed to allow the DE to mount disks?
[12:45] <procton> We have an strange dns issue on Ubuntu 10.04 server. Sometimes after boot, the DNS does not work. Rebooting the server ussually fixes the issue. I have not yet tried to simply restart networking in those situations. We rarely reboot the server. Any thoughts?
[12:47] <Sven_vB> procton, i'd test restarting just network on a spare server
[12:47] <q_a_z_steve> I'm just trying to mount a drive on a VM.
[12:49] <procton> Sven_vB: Do not currently have a spare server. :/ I have to wait for inactive hours and try to reproduce the problem. You have not heard of such strange behaviour before?
[12:51] <Sven_vB> procton, i might have, but with 10.04 that would've been so far in the past i might not remember
[12:52] <procton> Sven_vB: It was a long-shot to ask anyhow. Thanks anyway.
[12:53] <Sven_vB> have you checked the usual stuff, logs, restarting dns service etc?
[12:53] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key, but nothing happens when I select 'import'
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: import it into what?
[12:54] <procton> Sven_vB: I thought I had fixed it the previous occation by updating the resolv config. I _think_ I simply restarted networking at that time, but I cannot remember. It was months ago.
[12:55] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, into my keyring program
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: why didnt you say that....?
[12:55] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, thought it was obvious
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: not at all, you can import it in to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to allow SSH connections without password
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: and others
[12:57] <Sven_vB> procton, consider writing an experiences blog... you can re-read how you solved a problem ago, and it can also show your experience when looking for a job.
[12:57] <procton> Sven_vB: IIRC it has only occured twice... since 2010. I think the IT department have changed DNS servers, which may or may not be the reason.
[12:58] <Sven_vB> procton, well, you could check which DNS servers are being used and compare with which *should* be used
[12:58] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, should I make a sacrifice at the altar for forgiveness?
[12:58] <procton> Sven_vB: Servr maintenance is not part of my job description, but the development server is maintained by us developers. Writing a log of how it was resolved is a good idea though.
[12:59] <procton> Sven_vB: They are correct, but still the server failed to find any host names... It has occured twice in the past 3 months or so.
[12:59] <GothPaw> using 12.04 "update Manager" was in the middle of updating, but has been sitting now for over 30 hours without doing anything, It says the following: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.13.0-32-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[12:59] <GothPaw> any assistance please
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: please
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: what keyring program are you using please?
[13:01] <Sven_vB> procton, is the dns failing right now?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: something like this http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-importexport-gpg-key-pair/
[13:01] <hyde> GothPaw: was this just normal update within 12.04, or where you upgrading to 14.04? (I don't know a solution either way, but it might be relevant for someone else)
[13:02] <GothPaw> hyde: can't say for certain as it didn't really specify.
[13:02] <procton> Sven_vB: I cannot be certain that is the root cause. It could be a consequence.
[13:02] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, I'm using seahorse
[13:03] <hyde> GothPaw:  then probably normal update, the dist upgrade should be a separate button and probably ask for extra confirmation
[13:03] <procton> Sven_vB: The server cannot find the windows domain controller, thus we cannot log in. We can only login as root locally on the server. We can ping IPs, though, so the networking seems to be working.
[13:05] <Sven_vB> procton, i'd say a dev server could use a (fallback) login mechanism that doesn't rely on other services being up
[13:06] <Guest17918> my rDNS is server.mydomain.com, should I create an MX record for it?
[13:06] <procton> Sven_vB: It could, and should really, but we have not set up any.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: could've told us that too...
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: come on dude....think about it, you need to fill us in
[13:07] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, sorry, I see your point. there's no need to make you ask for each detail, sure.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-can-i-import-a-public-key-into-seahorse-763503/
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012433
[13:09] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, neither of these relates to my problem. as I told, I select import and nothing happens.
[13:09] <soee> hi, what would be the command to zip all files in direcotry including dotfiles ?
[13:15] <procton> soee: Noone seems to answer... My guess is "zip -r file.zip directory_to_zip"
[13:15] <soee> procton: it is waht i did, will check soon if dotfiles are included
[13:15] <kamran> hi, my CPU usage is high when idle, and Xorg uses 20% when idle, around 70 50% when moving windows ! when i enable tear free it gets near 100% when moving ! and also my computer starts to lag, while gpu usage remains the same, jumps from 0 to 19% rapidly !
[13:16] <geirha> soee: why use zip at all?
[13:16] <vebb> I'm an idiot. OK, that's done. So if I'm connecting to Freenode on SSL, do I need to open the ports via iptables? Seems redundant...
[13:16] <kamran> i can't keep tearfree off, it tears so horribly
[13:16] <vebb> or does it?!
[13:16] <MrSassyPants> libreoffice letter assistant is not working, other assistants are working. Did do google. Only solution left was overriding ubuntu packet manager and installing libreoffice manually. Any alternatives?
[13:16] <soee> geirha: i just want to move bunchof files from one server to another
[13:17] <geirha> soee: I'd recommend rsync or tar then
[13:17] <olivier_bK> do you know the name of the package for the command ping ?? because i cant find  it on my linux
[13:17] <geirha> depending on how you can connect between the two
[13:17] <vebb> the command for ping
[13:17] <vebb> is ping
[13:17] <olivier_bK> the name of the package
[13:17] <geirha> soee: With zip you'd lose file metadata
[13:17] <olivier_bK> for install it
[13:18] <vebb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/35c4bexwdibqvn7/Screenshot%202014-08-13%2001.17.57.png
[13:18] <hateball> kamran: What GPU chipset and driver are you using?
[13:18] <soee> geirha: well im using ssh for accounts on shared hosting
[13:18] <kamran> im using Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and flrx
[13:18] <powwowwow> will I get some help?
[13:18] <kamran> hateball: im using Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and flrx (for notfication)
[13:19] <vebb> ummmmmmmm
[13:19] <vebb> ping is default.
[13:19] <geirha> soee: In that case rsync is good.  rsync -a local_dir/ user@host:/place/to/put/it
[13:19] <hateball> kamran: Ok. Sadly I know nothing about Ati/AMD, but perhaps someone else does now that those details are here :)
[13:20] <kamran> hateball : ok thanks:) im really regreting my 30$ save by buying amd:( nvidia doens't have this kind of problems? also ige t weird glitches in tf2
[13:20] <soee> geirha: ok ill try that, thank you
[13:20] <olivier_bK> vebb, i cant find it
[13:20] <procton> soee: For slow connections, rsync can compress the data for you with "-z".
[13:20] <olivier_bK> i write whereis ping
[13:20] <olivier_bK>  i get nothing
[13:20] <vebb> whereis ping?
[13:20] <vebb> why not write ping
[13:21] <vebb> ➜  ~  whereis ping
[13:21] <vebb> ping: /bin/ping /usr/share/man/man8/ping.8.gz
[13:21] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[13:21] <kamran> hi, my CPU usage is high when idle, and Xorg uses 20% when idle, around 70 50% when moving windows ! when i enable tear free it gets near 100% when moving ! and also my computer starts to lag, while gpu usage remains the same, jumps from 0 to 19% rapidly ! , i can't turn tear free off because my screen tears horrible, but even without it 20% is high. my GPU is Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and im using flrx
[13:21] <geirha> soee: and if the rsync gets interrupted halfway through, just run the same rsync command again and it'll continue were it left off
[13:22] <hateball> kamran: I'm not saying nVidia doesnt have bugs, just that I am not in the know about AMD and any possibly bugs there
[13:23] <kamran> hateball: oh ok:) thanks anyway, i heard nvidia doesn't have much problems but still has some, they told me its really better than amd, well after i already bought it !
[13:23] <hateball> kamran: Sadly this has been my experience as well, which is why I am sticking to nVidia or Intel
[13:24] <kamran> hateball: :( i already paid 150$ for it and i can't tell them it lags ! well, atleast i learnt from my mistake !!! before buying someguy told me they're same :)
[13:24] <TJ-> kamran: Have you investigated the log-files (in "/var/log/") - in particular, for Xorg, "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" but also the kernel log "/var/log/kern.log". In the user's home directory also "$HOME/.xsession-errors"
[13:25] <kamran> TJ- : hi, i looked at those files, do you want to pastebin it? im not sure what to look for
[13:25] <gr33n7007h> powwowwow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012433
[13:25] <kamran> TJ-: its very long !
[13:26] <TJ-> kamran: Yeah, great isn't it, all that free information!?
[13:27] <TJ-> kamran: Start with Xorg.0.log see if there are any warnings "(WW)" or errors "(EE)"
[13:27] <kamran> TJ-: they're just imformation, is tehre suppost to be soemthing like an error?
[13:27] <kamran> TJ-: ok:)
 why am I getting links that have nothing to do with my problem? are you busy or is it the new form of channel help?
[13:27] <powwowwow> this is the third link, I can google things, too!
[13:27] <TJ-> kamran: Then look in "kern.log" at the timestamps when the X server is being laggy, see if the kernel is reporting errors or warnings
[13:28] <kamran> TJ-: this is filled with EE and WW
[13:28] <folbofasolin> help :c I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 and I can't login
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: for example this is one: [     2.987] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr
[13:29] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: can't login from gui login or console ?
[13:29] <TJ-> kamran: To diagnose faults I often leave a 'tail' on kern.log (this is more useful for device attach/detach but can help for GPU too) with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log", then with that terminal window still visible I try to provoke the issue, and see what messages the kernel sends at that point
[13:29] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: gui login
[13:29] <TJ-> kamran: Congratulations! You've just found the problem
[13:29] <folbofasolin> after login screen freezes
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: :) what exactly is it?
[13:30] <kamran> TJ-: my net is unstable, could that be currpted download?
[13:30] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: ah, I had that too..
[13:31] <TJ-> kamran: You notice the file that is not opened has a name ending in "_dri" ... that's the kernel Direct Rendering Interface (DRI), *required* for 3D acceleration.  The package archives have checksums to prevent installing corrupted packages
[13:32] <kamran> TJ-: oh, ok than, so, i must see if software render is on, but i dont know how :)
[13:32] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: can you check if you are the owner of your /home folder ?
[13:32] <TJ-> kamran: That failed file has 'fglrx' in its name which also tells us it is part of the AMD/ATI proprietary driver... so now we ask how you installed that, was it from the Ubuntu partner archives, or directly via a download from the AMD/ATI web-site ?
[13:33] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: do you know a command?
[13:33] <kamran> TJ-: i went to additional drivers  and chosed flrx , something happened to my pc so i restarded and did it again
[13:33] <|Marco|> ls -l /home
[13:33] <|Marco|> your username should be there
[13:34] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: yes, there is my username
[13:35] <|Marco|> hrm..
[13:36] <ramsrambo> Need help connecting to VPN on any of these servers
[13:36] <ramsrambo> http://www.vpngate.net/en/
[13:36] <folbofasolin> I can't see unity nor kde
[13:36] <kamran> TJ-: i gues ubuntu partner because i got it from additional drivers !!! but my net disconnected in middle of it, i closed it and opened it again and pressed apply again
[13:36] <aeme> saludos al canal, alguien que hable español me puede echar un cable para conectar un disco externo por usb que esta en ntfs para poder sacar los archivos que necesito? soy novato, gracias de antemano
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !es | aeme,
[13:36] <|Marco|> do you know if you have kdm/gdm/lightdm/whatever login manager ?
[13:37] <folbofasolin> kdm and lightdm
[13:38] <TJ-> kamran: OK first thing we should do is check the downloaded packages checksum to be sure it is good. If we know that, you can then confidentially purge the current fgrlx installation, reboot to a clean fully open-source driven GPU, and then re-install the fgrlx package
[13:38] <|Marco|> okay: sudo service lightdm restart
[13:38] <ramsrambo>  Need help connecting to VPN on any of these servers
 http://www.vpngate.net/en/ ?
[13:38] <|Marco|> and
[13:38] <TJ-> kamran: Can you tell me the *exact* version of the package by doing "apt-cache policy fglrx"
[13:38] <folbofasolin> I logged - screen turned black, only cursor visible
[13:39] <kamran> TJ-: how do i checksum?:O  if its currpted, does it mean i have to reinstall ubuntu? i stayed awake till 3am many nights :D
[13:39] <|Marco|> check /var/log/auth.log if there is any reason why it won't let you log in
[13:39] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[13:39] <|Marco|> you could try installing some other light desktop manager to see if that lets you through
[13:39] <kamran> TJ-:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2   Version table:      2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 0         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/restricted amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:40] <kamran> TJ-: im using lastest 14.04 ,
[13:40] <|Marco|> xfce4, fluxbox, openbox are some exsamples
[13:40] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: I have kde, it hangs up on login too
[13:41] <|Marco|> what are you trying to log in to ?
[13:41] <|Marco|> kde unity blarg ?
[13:41] <folbofasolin> unity
[13:41] <folbofasolin> atm
[13:41] <|Marco|> install something light OTHER than those two
[13:42] <folbofasolin> okay
[13:42] <TJ-> kamran: OK, that tells us the package is *not* installed ... which certainly confirms a problem. I need to see the Xorg.0.log. Please "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[13:42] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026887/ , pastebin for beter read
[13:43] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[13:44] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026897/ it took long to do it ! also tool long to download it again, means its a huge file !
[13:44] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: fresh openbox works
[13:44] <kamran> 1614 lines
[13:45] <pbx> xchat puzzle: i have accidentally muted a user (a bot in fact) and can't figure out how.  the bot nick is not in any of the configs inside ~/.xchat
[13:45] <folbofasolin> many errors
[13:47] <ELFrederich> Is there any desktop support for the Nvidia Tegra K1?
[13:47] <DJones> pbx: Assuming you've muted them in a channel on freenode, the mute isn't specific to your xchat, the mute is on the network itself
[13:48] <pbx> DJones, it's not freenode, it's my company's internal IRC
[13:48] <TJ-> kamran: Here's a shell command that can generate the list of fglrx packages we need to check, and their checksums. Run it to ensure it gives results on your system: "awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$0} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P; print $0; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages  "
[13:48] <Akshay> Hi there?
[13:48] <Akshay> anyone alive?
[13:48] <pbx> Akshay, just ask your question
[13:48] <enchilado> Akshay: maybe just ask y-
[13:48] <kamran> TJ-: awk: cannot open /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages (No such file or directory)
[13:49] <Akshay> facing issue while upgrading ubuntu 12.10
[13:49] <enchilado> It's not really helpful to get people's attention when the don't even know what you need help with
[13:49] <Akshay> It's showing Failed to fetch
[13:49] <DJones> pbx: ok, I would still have thought it was specific to a the internal irc network though, the command to unmute may well depend on what IRC software the network is running
[13:49] <Akshay> Network problem
[13:49] <Akshay> And my internet is working
[13:49] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: what type of errors ?
[13:49] <pbx> DJones, it's only xchat that has the problem. other clients (e.g. quassel) voice the bot
[13:49] <enchilado> Why would you upgrade to 12.10?
[13:50] <Akshay> i'm upgrading from 122.10
[13:50] <Akshay> 12.10*
[13:50] <Akshay> sorry for the typo
[13:50] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: some internal errors, i could't read log
[13:50] <folbofasolin> 1 app c rash
[13:51] <enchilado> Oh, my mistake. I don't know how my mind inserted a "to" there.
[13:51] <DJones> pbx: Is it all xchat clients (on different machines) or just your xchat on its own, if its the latter, I wonder whether its just been set to ignore the user/bot
[13:51] <Akshay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239172
[13:51] <Akshay> This is for you enchilado
[13:51] <pbx> DJones, it's just mine.  it's pretty clearly been set to ignore, i just can't for the life of me figure out how to unset it.
[13:52] <TJ-> kamran: Oops sorry, I left the package name for the UK GB country in my settings! OK ... do "grep 'archive.ubuntu.com' /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and that'll tell us which repository mirror your system is using
[13:53] <DJones> pbx: Might be worth joining #xchat (I think thats xchats own support channel), somebody there might have an idea, I use irssi myself so I can't think how you'd remove it
[13:53] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026957/
[13:53] <pbx> DJones, good call, thanks.  ironically the xchat website doesn't mention that channel :)
[13:54] <kamran> TJ-: downloaded pastebinit :) now it wont take long
[13:54] <DJones> pbx: I wasn't 100% certain that was the right channel
[13:54] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026971/ this is version that console gave me
[13:54] <Akshay> Could anyone help me please?
[13:55] <jhattara> can Ubuntu network manager handle multiple simultaneous vpn connections ?
[13:55] <zipc1> how do i fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026970/  ?  an internet connection problem?
[13:55] <TJ-> kamran: OK: "awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$0} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P; print $0; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages  "
[13:56] <kamran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026987/
[13:56] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026987/
[13:57] <cfhowlett_> !eolupgrade > Akshay,
[13:57] <cfhowlett_> !eolupgrade | Akshay
[13:58] <June79> Hi, I'm an IRC newb.  Is this where I can meet some other developers and bounce ideas around or is there a better place?
[13:58] <TJ-> pbx: re xchat: "/unignore <mask>" which is listed using "/ignore" ... assuming it is an ignore entry
[13:58] <Akshay> Thanks cfhowlett and ubottu
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> !contribute | June79
[13:59] <TJ-> kamran: thats good... now we use that to check any local packages stored in APTs cache to ensure they match
[13:59] <cslcm> Can anyone tell me why people watch daytime television?
[13:59] <Akshay> I know it's EOL, but right now i'm running the wibu version and my windows os is not working
[13:59] <Pici> cslcm: The folks in #ubuntu-offtopic probably know.
[13:59] <Akshay> so, can't install a fresh one now
[13:59] <kamran> TJ-: can you tell me how to do it?
[13:59] <cslcm> Pici: I doubt it
[13:59] <Akshay> I'd take the long route though
[13:59] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, wubi?  even worse!
[14:00] <Akshay> yes, wubi*
[14:00] <TJ-> kamran: I shall... I have to download the fglrx files first, give me a few minutes
[14:00] <Akshay> sorry for the typo again. I always confuse it with wibu
[14:00] <June79> Thanks for the suggestions.
[14:00] <kamran> TJ-: oh sorry, ok i wait:)
[14:00] <Akshay> What would you recomend cfhowlett?
[14:00] <Akshay> how to fix the network problem issue?
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, by the way, *when* your windows breaks wubi, it's virtually certain that you'll  unable to repair it.  Suggest your immediately torrent 14.04.1 lubuntu or xubuntu.  (Assuming you have an older machine).  14.04 is Long Term Support.  Install.  go forth and conquer.
[14:03] <Akshay> thanks cfhowlett, btw I've another issue
[14:03] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, oh, and never ever wubi again.  IMHO.
[14:04] <pbx> TJ-, yeah, it's not an ignore entry.  ignore.conf is 0 bytes
[14:05] <paloukas> hello all! does anyone else have problems with missing files after shutting down and reopening ubuntu 14.04
[14:05] <mjayk> paloukas: no what files?
[14:06] <Akshay> While I'm trying to install chromium browser in ubuntu, or any other app, its'giving me an error of Failed network problem
[14:06] <Akshay> "W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[14:06] <folbofasolin> I have problem after upgrading to 14.04
[14:06] <folbofasolin> what the hell
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, quantal is end of life.  no more support.  dead repos.
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> !details | folbofasolin,
[14:07] <kamran> Akshay: this fixed this for me once, change server to auto detect ! in software center
[14:07] <zipc1> what causes this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026970/
[14:08] <paloukas> mjayk: it's the strangest thing...6 times now, after rebooting or shutting down I lose all files (including things like software updates...anything and everything!) created after a certain point
[14:08] <folbofasolin> ubottu: after upgrade my unity and KDE won't run after clicking "login" button
[14:08] <folbofasolin> xD
[14:08] <folbofasolin> cfhowlett_: how you darexD
[14:08] <paloukas> mjayk: even my windows vms are fudged up
[14:08] <mjayk> paloukas: that does sould weird i would point towards a strange journeling problem / failing hdd but thats beyond me sorry
[14:09] <Akshay> @kamran, it's been already set to Auto detect
[14:10] <TJ-> kamran: I shall... OK, tested it here so here goes. Run this, and pastebin the results for me: " awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$2} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P,$2; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages | while read package sum; do PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; then echo "$sum  is the MD5 sum for:  $package"; md5sum $PKG; fi; done "
[14:10] <paloukas> mjayk: thanks! the hardware is pretty new...
[14:10] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[14:10] <Akshay> kamran: it's been already set to Auto detect
[14:11] <kamran> TJ-: it gives me an empty ">" that i can type there
[14:11] <TJ-> kamran: You must have included an extra quote mark (did you include the double-quotes I surround the command with) ?
[14:12] <tuono279> ciao
[14:12] <kamran> TJ-: let me check
[14:12] <TJ-> kamran: try typing another " and pressing Enter
[14:12] <tuono279> list
[14:12] <ssarah> hei guys
[14:12] <kamran> TJ-: thats what i typed : awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$2} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P,$2; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages | while read package sum; do PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; then echo "$sum  is the MD5 sum for:  $package
[14:12] <kamran> i treid still it gets me tehre
[14:12] <ssarah> what does "$sudo passwd" do?
[14:13] <TJ-> kamran: Some of the command is missing ... it ends with "done"
[14:13] <geirha> PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; ... <- that is broken
[14:13] <TJ-> kamran: let me pastebin it so it is easier to copy and paste
[14:13] <kamran> TJ-:  thanks, sorry :(
[14:13] <paloukas> hello all! does anybody else have problems with losing all files created after a certain point in time (including packages) after a shutdown/reboot on 14.04
[14:14] <TJ-> kamran: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027115/
[14:14] <TJ-> kamran: I left in the "gb.archive" again! edit that to be just "archive" !!
[14:14] <geirha> TJ-: you want an array for that. pkg=( "/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_"*.deb ); if [[ -f ${pkg[0]} ]]; then ...
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: tu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages: command not found
[14:15] <TJ-> kamran: something is wrong with your copy-paste operation
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: the one i saw here was shorted btw !!!
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: let me do soemthing
[14:15] <Guest42867> RUNNING 12.04 with no problems (nvidia updates have been problematic)
[14:15] <Guest42867> does 14.04 seem good to go for an update, or can it wait for a little bug removal?
[14:16] <system0x01> Bluetooth Driver(RT3290/MT7630) on HP ProBook G1 455 not work on new kernel
[14:16] <kamran> TJ-: my mouse has connecting problem and maybe it disconnected while selecting it, let me download it !
[14:16] <f00dWorksta> Been using 14.04 for a while now, only a few minor glitches here and there
[14:16] <TJ-> geirha: I'm trying not to rely on bashisms, just in case
[14:16] <TJ-> kamran: here's the corrected pastebin for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027124/
[14:16] <kamran> TJ-: after downloading it and CTRL-A and V i get this :            awk: cannot open /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages (No such file or directory)
[14:16] <cslcm> I wish Unity was less Mac OS'y
[14:17] <geirha> TJ-: Then you'll at least want something that won't fail so easily
[14:17] <TJ-> kamran: Yeah, as I said, I left in the gb.archive on that one because that's what mine is set to :)
[14:17] <kamran> TJ-: now i got result
[14:17] <TJ-> geirha: It fails because the paste is incomplete!
[14:17] <Guest42867> thanks
[14:17] <kamran> TJ-: 739216c4b2546f3f00d0049bb55e6b43  is the MD5 sum for:  fglrx-amdcccle-updates 739216c4b2546f3f00d0049bb55e6b43  /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx-amdcccle-updates_2%3a13.350.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[14:17] <TJ-> kamran: Can you pastebin it please
[14:18] <kamran> Tj-: ok
[14:18] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027153/ , sorry :)
[14:18] <geirha> TJ-: it will fail if sie happens to have more than one deb file for a given package
[14:18] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: how is unity mac os'y? :o
[14:18] <TJ-> kamran: OK, that package is good but you don't have the "fglrx" package downloaded yet, so do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install fglrx"
[14:18] <kamran> TJ-: thats gonna take long with my net, ok let me do it
[14:19] <system0x01> how to run ralink (mediatek present) combo device bleuetooth/wifi
[14:19] <TJ-> kamran: That's the only solution, that system is *missing* the "fglrx" package, as "apt-cache policy" confirmed earlier
[14:19] <kamran> TJ-: oh its only 6mb,  i otught its gonna download the whole 125 mb again
[14:19] <system0x01> on new kernel
[14:19] <cslcm> f00dWorksta: My main gripe is the application menus being detached from the application and being at the top of the screen. It's bad UX
[14:19] <kamran> TJ-: ok :) will tell you when its done
[14:19] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: you can put menus back to the window
[14:19] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: at least in 14.04 you can
[14:19] <Akshay> kamran: there man?
[14:20] <dino82> Does ubuntu not use a true bash shell by default?  Bash scripts that work fine on CentOS seem to be completely broken in Ubuntu 14.04
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : what?
[14:20] <TJ-> kamran: Once it is installed, assuming apt-get doesn't report errors, you'll be best to reboot the PC to ensure the DRI drivers get loaded correctly. Then come back here after testing it to tell me if that fixed it or not
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : oh, yes im here if you  ask if im afk :)
[14:20] <geirha> dino82: Yes. The scripts that fail are probably sh scripts using bashisms.
[14:20] <Akshay> kamran: I've already set it to auto detect
[14:20] <kamran> TJ-: ok :) i will reboot after that, and will come with same name
[14:20] <Akshay> kamran: still facing the issues
[14:20] <geirha> dino82: you can fix that by changing their shebang to #!/usr/bin/env bash
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : sadly i have no other ideas
[14:20] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: Settings > Apperance > Behavior > Show the menus for a window > In the window's title bar
[14:21] <kamran> Akshay : atleast for now, my brain is messy, i have my own problem xD
[14:21] <dino82> I'll try that, thanks
[14:21] <sideup66> hello room
[14:21] <TJ-> dino82: Ubuntu uses "dash", an 'sh' extension, by default for system scripts. User's shells are usually Bash though
[14:21] <sideup66> anyone here have any experience with installing emit? Im trying to create an emit server on ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[14:21] <Akshay> kamran: no problem man
[14:21] <geirha> dino82: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices#Choose_Your_Shell for more on that.
[14:21] <Akshay> kamran: thanks for help
[14:21] <dino82> Thanks
[14:22] <kamran> Akshay : :) sorry that i cant help,
[14:22] <sideup66> and for whatever reason, it doesnt seem to follow through, it installs and starts, but when I  try torun it, the output is that it upnp recieves an unknown message
[14:22] <system0x01> I have some issue with rt3290 - on new kernel the bluetooth not work.
[14:24] <Akshay> kamran: no rpoblem man
[14:24] <kamran> i was about to giev another idea :( he left !!!
[14:24] <sideup66> ?
[14:24] <dino82> Hmm changing the shebang at the top of my script didn't work, getting the same error
[14:26] <cslcm> f00dWorksta: thanks, that's helpful :) Is there a way to get rid of the OSX-like sidebar too?
[14:26] <cslcm> and just use desktop icons
[14:26] <Inoki> Guys I have a question; I'm about to re-install a laptop with a given name for the home folder. Can I change this home folder's name during the live session and when I specify the new home folder name during installation will it be normally mounted?
[14:27] <ObrienDave> cslcm, install xubuntu-desktop, select at logon
[14:27] <geirha> dino82: what's the error?
[14:28] <trijntje> Inoki: what do you mean exactly, directories aren't "mounted" during installation
[14:28] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: you can either use another desktop environment like ObrienDave suggested: xubuntu (XFCE), gnome-shell.
[14:28] <geirha> dino82: also note that ''sh scriptfile'' is wrong; that overrides the shebang and runs it with sh
[14:29] <dino82> Yes, I've been using ./script.sh
[14:29] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: or you can hide the bar and reveal it when needed: Settings > Appearance > Behaviour > Auto-hide the Launcher
[14:29] <EL3PHANTEN> Hello
[14:29] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: if you really don't want to even reveal it, set the reveal sensitivity to really LOW
[14:30] <Inoki> trijntje: I mean you have a home folder that has a specific name and holds your files. In order to mount this specific folder after a fresh install you need to specify your login name (which is the name of your folder).
[14:30] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: as in set it to the lowest, it won't show ever again
[14:30] <geirha> dino82: ok, then the error might be that it uses a non-standard command that is either not available, or different in ubuntu
[14:30] <EL3PHANTEN> I have tried to install winsows and ubuntu on my laptop, It just won work
[14:30] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: well it shows when you press the super key to show the launcher
[14:30] <EL3PHANTEN> I have had ubuntu on, And I have had windows on.
[14:30] <moth3r> Is there a fast (yet possibly secure) alternative to sshfs?
[14:31] <moth3r> I can't  handle sshfs anyomre, wayyy too slow.
[14:31] <trijntje> Inoki: again, mounting folders doesn't make any sense. Do you have a separate home partition?
[14:31] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: what are your requirements
[14:31] <f00dWorksta> EL3PHANTEN: what is the problem?
[14:31] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: whay do you mean it doesn't wrk?
[14:32] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: only requirement is a tolerable connection.
[14:32] <eeee_> *what
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Inoki  you mount a device *to* a folder
[14:32] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: what do you use it for?
[14:32] <cfhowlett_> !details | EL3PHANTEN,
[14:32] <kamran> TJ-: 40%, what should i test after rebooting, just check cpu usage?
[14:32] <TJ-> trijntje: Actually, home directories *are* mounted if they're encrypted: "/home/tj/.Private on /home/tj type ecryptfs"
[14:32] <EL3PHANTEN> When I have a clean windows installation on. I run Ubuntu 14.04.1 windows installer. But when I reboot and come in to ubuntu, it says no root defined
[14:32] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, do everything you know that was causing problems, check the CPU usage etc,
[14:32] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: Everything. I use it like I use the hard disk in my laptop. I have 3 external hard drives I concatinated and mounted on a remote machine.
[14:33] <ldiamond> Anyone upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.01? How was it? Should I just do a clean install?
[14:33] <EL3PHANTEN> * no root file system is defined
[14:33] <kamran> TJ-: i also check if tf2 is fixed !
[14:33] <cfhowlett_> ldiamond, painless > clean install
[14:33] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: remote drives should really only be used for storage... have you tried plain ol' NFS?
[14:33] <TJ-> kamran: good luck :)
[14:34] <kamran> TJ-: will tell you :) let me make some coffe xD thanks a lot for till here
[14:34] <geirha> Oh, wubi is still supported? I thought I heard it got dropped
[14:34] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: is that during the installation?
[14:34] <ldiamond> cfhowlett_, I'll give it a shot, if I regret my decision it won't be too late to clean it up.
[14:34] <cfhowlett_> geirha, WUBI IS UNSUPPORTED!
[14:34] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: no. is there some level of security? and am I able to mount it on this computer?
[14:34] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: is your remote machine within your local network?
[14:34] <dino82> Ok, got the script to work, thanks
[14:35] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: yes, but I access it outside of my network.
[14:35] <geirha> cfhowlett_: good, then I heard right :)
[14:35] <cfhowlett_> EL3PHANTEN, if you used the windows installer - you messed up.  it doesn't like 14.04  and I'm pretty sure we TOLD you not to use it.
[14:36] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: Yes I have installed windows first, on my only 1TB partition
[14:36] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: and you only use it as storage? or do you work off of it?
[14:36] <geirha> dino82: also, in the future, avoid putting extensions on scripts
[14:36] <Inoki> trijntje: During installation you get a screen where you insert your credentials, password and login name (which will be your home folder name). If, after a fresh installation (and mounting /home separately) you, on this specific login screen put a different login name than the previously used your home folder will not contain any files, because you haven't used your previous login so when you mount /home separately you will have a new folder wit
[14:36] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: I work off of it
[14:36] <ldiamond> cfhowlett_, geirha : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide maybe this page needs to be updated though
[14:37] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: and you're using the "something else" option during the installation?
[14:37] <EL3PHANTEN> cfhowlett_, okey. Then I will reinstall windows on the partition, so that is the only thing I have. Okey?
[14:37] <trijntje> Inoki: your message got truncated because it was too long. Please split it up and poste it again
[14:37] <cfhowlett_> EL3PHANTEN, good move
[14:37] <cfhowlett_> ldiamond, yes, it does need to be updated
[14:37] <geirha> ldiamond: ouch!
[14:37] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: one more question... defined 'slow'
[14:37] <ldiamond> EL3PHANTEN, not sure exactly what your situation is, but be sure to inspect your current partitions to find out if you actually wiped it or if it's just the bootloader.
[14:37] <dino82> I assume it's an effort to keep others from being confused as to what type of script it is?
[14:37] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: 123 kb/s
[14:38] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: I have tried so many times. I dont know. But I will go trough the process right now
[14:38] <geirha> dino82: that and avoiding headaches if you end up rewriting it in another language
[14:38] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: I don't think that's sshfs's problem then...
[14:38] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i think you aren't specifying the root filesystem during the installation,
[14:38] <Inoki> trijntje: During installation you get a screen where you insert your credentials, password and login name (which will be your home folder name).
[14:38] <TJ-> Inoki: Before running the install, you could rename the existing home directory, then rename it back to the required name once you've installed
[14:38] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: It is a number of problems...but alleviating some of the layers of encryption would speed this up a bit
[14:38] <Inoki> trijntje: If, after a fresh installation (and mounting /home separately) you, on this specific login screen put a different login name than the previously used your home folder will not contain any files,
[14:39] <Inoki> trijntje: because you haven't used your previous login so when you mount /home separately you will have a new folder with no files and the previous /home folder won't be mounted again.
[14:39] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: encrytion is cheap nowadays
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, not if the bottleneck is the bandwidth.
[14:39] <Inoki> trijntje: This happened to me before. So, if I go to live session, change the current home folder name to something else, put that something else as my new login, will it normally mount /home with all files?
[14:39] <moth3r> ldiamond: the bottleneck is the ethernet port, tiny tiny computer.
[14:39] <geirha> dino82: and the end user really doesn't care what language a command is written in as long as it does what it's supposed to do
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, make sure you use the latest version of ssh on both the client and server.
[14:39] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: usually it's IO that's the bottleneck
[14:39] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: correct.
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, the encrypted payload isn't much larger than the real thing.
[14:39] <EL3PHANTEN> cfhowlett_, ldiamond, okey. I have the laptop right besides me here. I am on my desktop now, so I will be here trought the process. And I will ask windows to delete all partitions, and format, and make a new windows partition.
[14:40] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: ldiamond: so you guys think I should change the machine that hosts the remote drives then?
[14:40] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you have to choose "Something else" at the bottom of the screen, and create a partition for ubuntu,
[14:40] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: no need to delete windows
[14:40] <ldiamond> moth3r, what is that machine?
[14:40] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey?
[14:40] <eeee_> you can probably just shrink the partition and use the free space for ubuntu
[14:40] <Inoki> TJ-: so that can work the other way around then. Go to live > rename home > head to install, choose new login > /home mounted.
[14:40] <trijntje> Inoki: yes, that should work. Just be sure to have a backup of all important files before you start, and make sure you do not format /home during the installation
[14:40] <ldiamond> moth3r, my Raspberry pi will likely serve much faster than that over sshfs.
[14:40] <moth3r> ldiamond: .....raspberry pi....I KNOW I KNOW...terrible idea. It was originally supposed to be strictly for storage
[14:40] <dino82> geirha: Yeah this was a simple rsync deployment script with error checking, so that my wife can tell me if something went wrong with a specific error code :)
[14:41] <moth3r> ldiamond: it doesn't though
[14:41] <ldiamond> moth3r, there shouldn't be an issue.
[14:41] <Inoki> trijntje: thanks, perfect!
[14:41] <TJ-> Inoki: No ... if you're doing "Tru Ubuntu" and then running the installer from the desktop icon, then *before* you start the installer rename the user's home directory to something temporary such as "/home/user.backup", install as 'user' (which will create a new "/home/user/"), then once the installer is finished do "rm -rf /home/user/" and then "mv /home/user.backup /home/user"
[14:41] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: can you benchmark your remote machine first?
[14:41] <ldiamond> moth3r, do you use the ethernet port?
[14:41] <moth3r> ldiamond: yes
[14:41] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: I don't know how to dot hat
[14:41] <Inoki> TJ-: okies, thanks!
[14:41] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey. I will try this first. I will uninstall the wubi installation. And go to windows and shrink the partition. right?
[14:42] <GothPaw> I'm using 12.04 "update Manager" was in the middle of updating but has been sitting now for over 30 hours without doing anything, It's sitting at the following: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.13.0-32-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:42] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: right
[14:42] <EL3PHANTEN> 2 sec
[14:42] <cfhowlett_> GothPaw, 30 HOURS?
[14:42] <TJ-> GothPaw: ouch! That should only take 20 seconds
[14:42] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: ssh into remote machine, then do "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"
[14:42] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: please hold
[14:42] <TJ-> GothPaw: Is it possible the /boot/ partition has run out od space?
[14:42] <eeee_> lol :'(
[14:43] <j0rd> soooooo. im sure this has been asked way too many times but where in the name of $deity is the pulseaudio packages for trusty?
[14:43] <TJ-> j0rd: "apt-cache search pulseaudio"
[14:43] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey now in windows administration, I shrink c: by 500GB. Okey?
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> j0rd  i like your $DEITY :)
[14:43] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: as you wish
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> There is only 1 God
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> LOVE AND PEACE
[14:44] <j0rd> MonkeyDust: im getting the "E: Package 'pulseaudio' has no installation candidate" error
[14:44] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: "hdparm: command not found"
[14:44] <trijntje> moth3r: I get around 2 Mbps on my raspberry pi using nfs, it might be worth a shot
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> screw all the human made religions
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> anyway..
[14:44] <moth3r> trijntje: can you mount using that?
[14:44] <j0rd> s/MonkeyDust/TJ/
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> j0rd  and your release supported? what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <ldiamond> moth3r, consider trying different ciphers.
[14:44] <sideup66> hello again
[14:44] <sideup66> dunno if anyone responded
[14:44] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_, okey now I got 488GB unallocated. What next?
[14:44] <sideup66> at work and was afk
[14:44] <moth3r> ldiamond: how would I do that?
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: have you recently changed the repository settings for the package manager?
[14:45] <trijntje> moth3r: yeah, but I'm not sure if nfs is encrypted
[14:45] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: is this a windows 8 efi system?
[14:45] <ldiamond> the -c param
[14:45] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: install the hdparm package?
[14:45] <moth3r> ldiamond: which cypher should I use?
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: which Ubuntu release is it ("cat /etc/issue") ?
[14:45] <j0rd> TJ-: no
[14:45] <j0rd> TJ-: MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: Try "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache policy pulseaudio"
[14:46] <sideup66> wat?
[14:46] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: it has some (UEFI, legacy support) settings in BIOS, and one setting, optimized for win8.
[14:46] <ldiamond> moth3r, try multiple ones. But RC4 and Blowfish should perform well enough
[14:46] <moth3r> ldiamond: I just type, "-c RC4"? as a param
[14:46] <ldiamond> be sure to try the "supposed" default aes, which may not be what's defaulted to with your installation (for some reason)
[14:46] <j0rd> its essentially stock. i bearly use it. i ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade this morning and it baked when i booted it just now. will run apt-get update and apt-cache policy pulseaudio now
[14:46] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, you need to turn fast boot off for win8
[14:47] <ldiamond> moth3r, -c arcfour
[14:47] <trijntje> moth3r: probably better to ask in #raspberrypi anyway, maybe the chip has build in support for some ciphers
[14:47] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: its win7 I am running
[14:47] <ldiamond> moth3r, however, know that RC4 isn't considered secure.
[14:47] <j0rd> TJ-: http://sprunge.us/BERg
[14:47] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then i guess boot the live USB
[14:47] <ldiamond> if you're transferring state secrets, I'd advise against it.
[14:48] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey 2 secs
[14:48] <moth3r> ldiamond: I'm less concerned about secrets and more concerned with just speed and keeping cleartext from happening
[14:48] <kamran> 91%
[14:49] <ldiamond> moth3r, do some testing with different ciphers, and as it was suggested, try #raspberrypi
[14:49] <moth3r> ldiamond: will do
[14:49] <moth3r> thanks
[14:49] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: ha I just saw that it's a rasberrypi, sorry no experience at that matter, ldiamond can take over completely :P
[14:50] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: hah
[14:50] <mjayk> Haya all im behind a proxy and I cant do sudo apt-get update, I can if I sudo su export http_proxy= then apt-get update
[14:50] <mjayk> and ideas
[14:50] <j0rd> TJ-: any thoughts?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> mjayk  why are you behind a proxy?
[14:50] <mjayk> MonkeyDust: because thats the way the network is configured
[14:51] <moth3r> trijntje: ldiamond: I'm trying with a different cypher and no compression.... wish me luck
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> mjayk  what network? can you not contact the network manager?
[14:51] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_, now I cannot access BIOS. Had same problem before today. 2 min
[14:51] <geirha> mjayk: sudo http_proxy= apt-get update
[14:52] <mjayk> geirha: lemme try
[14:52] <TJ-> j0rd: Yeah... why have you got too sets of Ubuntu repos set, and with a pining on pulseaudio?
[14:52] <kamran> TJ-: restarting....
[14:52] <TJ-> kamran: OK .. I'm off out to run the huskies... let me know in about 45 minutes ;)
[14:53] <mjayk> geirha: yes that works thanks is there anyway to set this as a global var because wget and curl dont seam to use it by default?
[14:54] <j0rd> TJ-: im honestly not sure. as i said, this box doesnt see much use. if the package is pinned its not on me. as for mirrors.kernel iirc i added it because the au.archive.ubuntu server can fall behind from time to time
[14:54] <geirha> mjayk: you mean wget and curl don't use the proxy?
[14:55] <mjayk> geirha: correct
[14:55] <geirha> but you want them to?
[14:55] <mjayk> yes
[14:56] <geirha> well, globally for all users, I'd probably put it in /etc/environment
[14:57] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: can you guide me on what BIOS settings to choose? . I can send a paste link
[14:57] <j0rd> ok, w/ TJ gone is there anyone else who cld take a stab helping me solve the pinned and missing pulseaudio?
[14:57] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah sure
[14:57] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey wait
[14:58] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: is there some bios info, I should avoid to post, for security?
[14:59] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i don't think so, no
[14:59] <ldiamond> EL3PHANTEN, only the password used to get in the bios.
[15:00] <ldiamond> If one is set.
[15:00] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey thank tou
[15:00] <bl4ckdu5t> I installed phpmyadmin on a Ubuntu 14.0 Trusty
[15:00] <bl4ckdu5t> Happens web files are stored in /var/www/html rather than /var/www
[15:01] <bl4ckdu5t> I visited http://localhost/phpmyadmin and I can't find the file
[15:01] <ldiamond> try http://localhost/phpmyadmin/html
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> bl4ckdu5t  is that a server? there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:02] <ldiamond> otherwise check the apache config.
[15:02] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: is the configuration actually enabled? Is there a symlink to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/ or /etc/apache2/conf.d/  ?
[15:02] <EL3PHANTEN> !pastebin
[15:02] <bl4ckdu5t> ldiamond: didn't work
[15:03] <bl4ckdu5t> I check the config in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config/config.php
[15:04] <bl4ckdu5t> and I couldn't see anything strange
[15:04] <bl4ckdu5t> Pici: I'm not sure about the symlink. I'll check
[15:05] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: http://imgur.com/cumo8Rv,yghIGcs,m1NU6st,EB0UsVC there are 4 images
[15:06] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, it's the apache config you need.
[15:07] <ldiamond> phpmyadmin runs on an apache server in the default install.
[15:07] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: there where it says legacy support, I can choose UEFI
[15:07] <ldiamond> (at least it did a few years back)
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> Pici: There's no /etc/apache2/confi.d
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> *conf.d/
[15:08] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> just /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[15:08] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ and boot priority, I can choose "UEFI First" if on legacy support
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> ldiamond: what do you think I should check out in the config
[15:08] <JaySlaven> hello, i want to change user from root as i cant run steam on root. im running on a chromebook using croutob
[15:08] <JaySlaven> crouton
[15:09] <bl4ckdu5t> and is it this config /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config/config.php ?
[15:09] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, I hate apache with a passion, try #mysql #phpmyadmin or #apache
[15:09] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, that's the phpmyadmin config.
[15:09] <kamran> TJ-: are you here?
[15:10] <ldiamond> phpmyadmin isn't a server, only a set of php files.
[15:10] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: no. /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf needs to be symlinked from within /etc/apache2/conf.d/ or from /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/
[15:10] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: if you don't have /etc/apache2/conf.d/, then you should have the other
[15:11] <EL3PHANTEN> still here eeee_?
[15:13] <iainv2> How do I reset back to default desktop in 14.04 please?
[15:14] <xangua> iainv2: please elaborate
[15:14] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: sorry, im back,
[15:14] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  i guess you can simply do   unity --reset   or so
[15:15] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: I wrote some otion I have further up in the chat
[15:15] <iainv2> I changed from default, got a menu but want original Ubuntu sidebar back
[15:15] <eeee_> yeah reading it now
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  then logout, switch, login
[15:16] <xangua> iainv2: changed to what¿ what menu¿ please elaborate
[15:17] <iainv2> I've got a drop down menu instead of the original icons. Bit of a newbie I'm afraid
[15:18] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: when you start the PC if you press ESC do you get a boot options?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  sounds like you're in the classic fallback desktop
[15:18] <EL3PHANTEN> I thin it is f12
[15:18] <EL3PHANTEN> think*
[15:19] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: try that, and select the USB
[15:20] <stevecoh1> quit
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: sry I guess that didnt work with the legacy option first. Then I did hold shift and pressed restart to access the BIOS again
[15:20] <bencc> why does "hostname –fqdn" give me "hostname: the specified hostname is invalid"
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Shall I choose UEFI first
[15:20] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, you need to get the USB HDD to the top of the list
[15:20] <bencc> /etc/hostname is "example.dev"
[15:20] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: no, leave it legacy
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:21] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: if windows is installed in legacy, ubuntu should be installed in legacy as well
[15:21] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: ALL settings okey from the screenshots?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> bencc  does the same here, i guess the options cannot be combined
[15:21] <iainv2> Thanks, I'll try switching
[15:21] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah
[15:21] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:22] <bencc> MonkeyDust: what?
[15:22] <bencc> MonkeyDust: on my server it works
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> bencc  yes, then maybe it's a combination that works on server, but not on desktop
[15:23] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey eeee_: shall I Install Ubuntu or Try Ubuntu
[15:24] <bencc> MonkeyDust: very helpful :)
[15:24] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: if you're ready to install, then install ubuntu, or maybe try ubuntu to see how it runs
[15:24] <eeee_> with your hardware and if you like it
[15:25] <EL3PHANTEN> It runs perfectly. I have run Ubuntu on this for months
[15:25] <EL3PHANTEN> just need win7 in addition
[15:25] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then choose install ubuntu
[15:25] <eeee_> ill brb
[15:27] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: In the options I shall choose "Something else: edit partitions and stuff" ?
[15:27] <jayslaven> is anyone here who knows how to do crouton on a chromebook
[15:27] <jayslaven> i desperatly need help
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> bencc  from the hostanme manpage : "Therefore avoid using hostname --fqdn, hostname --domain and dnsdomain‐ name."
[15:30] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah, choose Something else
[15:30] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey now in installation type window, I see: /dev/sdb, and then one emptyspace 1000204 MB.
[15:32] <eeee_> O.o
[15:32] <Pici> jayslaven: try asking in #crouton, which is their official channel. We have no idea here in #ubuntu
[15:32] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you shrunk the windows partition by 500Gb right?
[15:32] <sathish> hi
[15:32] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ yes
[15:32] <sathish> need small info
[15:33] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: something isn't right, can you pastebin it?
[15:33] <sathish> yes
[15:33] <sathish> we have installed one ubuntu cloud server
[15:33] <sathish> with MAAS
[15:33] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: sry for the danish language. I upload anyways... http://imgur.com/eWlfBvv
[15:34] <sathish> but not able to get the clusterg on the MAAS console
[15:34] <qstrahl> I accidentally enabled some kind of reader that dictates every key I press it's horrible please tell me how to make it stop
[15:35] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: in windows the 488GB is still unallocated.
[15:36] <reisio> qstrahl: pgrep -l festival
[15:36] <qstrahl> reisio, Nothing
[15:36] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you booted into windows just now?
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> No
[15:36] <reisio> qstrahl: check dash for 'accessibility'
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> just info
[15:36] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: can you try that?
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:36] <eeee_> or, if you press cancel
[15:36] <qstrahl> reisio, "Orca Screen Reader" maybe?
[15:36] <eeee_> and it takes you to the unity desktop
[15:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Yea I guess I will go in try mode
[15:37] <Blue11> qstrahl: you may have accidentally trigged the accessibility option
[15:37] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ true
[15:37] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: check gparted
[15:37] <qstrahl> I believe I did. Where can I turn off the hotkey for this?
[15:37] <qstrahl> (It was orca, pkill to the rescue)
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <Blue11> yeah orca is a screen reader
[15:38] <reisio> qstrahl: mebbe
[15:38] <reisio> log out and back in, if it doesn't come back, you're all set
[15:38] <Enissay> Hi, I want to get the git's first commit date from http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/source/checkout... but "$ git log https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/" says there's no repository :(
[15:38] <Blue11> qstrahl: if you go into the settings manager under system accessibility, there should be an option there.
[15:38] <absk007> how to install emmet in Geany editor?
[15:39] <Blue11> oh yay -- I have a restart
[15:39] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://imgur.com/NSs0g5m
[15:39] <reisio> absk007: don't cross post
[15:40] <marcuy> k
[15:40] <nonuby> OT: possibly the most famous wifi points, the blue/black linksys boxes wr54g/l etc.., from pics the antennas have a thick base, is the antenna connector the standard one used for 3rd party antennas etc..
[15:40] <nonuby> one remove the standard linksys antennas, i.e. its just a plastic gimmickl
[15:40] <phunyguy> nonuby: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[15:41] <nonuby> thanks
[15:41] <daftykins> or #networking
[15:41] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: open a terminal, type parted -l
[15:41] <phunyguy> that too
[15:41] <EL3PHANTEN> affirmative
[15:41] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN:  apt-get install pastebinit
[15:42] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: parted -l | pastebinit
[15:42] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[15:42] <qstrahl> reisio, It's cool, pkill saved the day.
[15:42] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ actually it asks the same question about if its a gpt table
[15:43] <EL3PHANTEN> yes or no?
[15:43] <nonuby> possibly the most famous wifi points, the blue/black linksys boxes wr54g/l etc.., from pics the antennas have a thick base, is the antenna connector on the base unit he standard one used for 3rd party antennas once remove the linksys supplied antennas
[15:43] <nonuby> ah crap sorry
[15:44] <intrader> Anyone, all web browsers are unable to load flash - seems to fail with 'embed tpe="application/x-shockwave-flash"' as plugin not supported. How do I reinstall flash?
[15:44] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: lsblk | pastebinit
[15:44] <odisa> Hello. I just ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and I received a message from GRUB (paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/ ). Am I correct in selecting "/boot"?
[15:44] <nonuby> intraders, apt-get remove flashplugin-installer, apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[15:46] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027515/
[15:46] <M4renz-Work> Greetings
[15:47] <odisa> Hello.
[15:47] <reisio> 'lo odisa
[15:48] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i think this is the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987011 (check the second post)
[15:48] <xxx1337> anyone have any tips for browsing the web while at work and not having co-workers realize?
[15:48] <M4renz-Work> I am looking for an oneiric mirror. I first thought downloading the installer iso for oneiric is enough and would contain the .debs but I can't actually find any deb on the iso. Do you know where I can find the oneiric mirror with the .deb packages?
[15:48] <odisa> Tor Browser. Though this is not the appropriate place to discuss that xxx1337
[15:48] <intrader> nonuby, have done with sudo - does not solve problem; should I reboot?
[15:49] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey I will take a look
[15:49] <ObrienDave> xxx1337, don't ;P
[15:51] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: try in the terminal fdisk -l
[15:51] <xxx1337> odisa thanks
[15:51] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: lsblk seems to see everything, but the installer doesn't
[15:52] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ fdisk -l does nothing here
[15:52] <EL3PHANTEN> Or outputted nothing
[15:53] <EL3PHANTEN> maybe i missed sudo
[15:53] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027557/
[15:53] <reisio> your nick makes my head hurt
[15:53] <odisa> What would cause a disk's unique identifier to change? Would it be anything in standard Ubuntu updates?
[15:54] <reisio> odisa: disks don't have UUIDs, filesystems have
[15:54] <reisio> so maybe your FS was changed (replaced)
[15:54] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what're you up to, besides making my eyes hurt with your nick
[15:54] <odisa> reisio: ah ok. the error message I had worded it that way. a replaced filesystem?
[15:54] <SeanChiarot> hey gues, quick one for you, trying to get a public share working between Ubuntu 14.02 and a Windows 7 pc, ubuntu can talk to the Windows PC now with no issues, but when my Windows PC trys to access a network share on the ubuntu pc I get "You do not have permission to access...."
[15:54] <reisio> odisa: quite possibly
[15:55] <intrader> nonuby, I will reboot - I will be away while doing so
[15:55] <odisa> Filesystem is NTFS, ext2/3/4 etc, correct?
[15:55] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio trying to get ubuntu to work
[15:55] <EL3PHANTEN> or together with windows rather
[15:56] <ObrienDave> and give us a headache with your all-caps nick
[15:56] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what's not working
[15:56] <reisio> odisa: right
[15:56] <odisa> There are some pretty clear guides on how to do that.. I remember successfully accomplishing the same bridge between 12.04 and Windows 7 with FileZilla utilizing an online guide SeanChiarot
[15:56] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ also it says WARNING: GPT detected on /dev/sdb! The util fdisk doesnt support GPT. Use GNU Parted
[15:57] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: ignore
[15:57] <gottaGO> I;m using 12.04 ubuntu ( 3.11 kernel ) and I can't install nVidia drivers - unmet dependencies : nvidia-current : Depends: nvidia-304 but it is not going to be installed
[15:57] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what is the problem
[15:57] <gottaGO> nothing I googled help me
[15:58] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I only see a empty 1TB partition when in ubuntu installation. Even tough win7 is installed
[15:58] <EL3PHANTEN> fresh win7 installation
[15:58] <odisa> gottaGO: that is a very common problem.. wish I could help; I gave up after several attempts and reverted to the.. x-org driver it was I believe
[15:58] <odisa> that should function reasonably well
[15:59] <gottaGO> odisa, how I revert to x-org driver ?
[15:59] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: Should I try start over. And reinstall win7 with UEFI setting
[15:59] <odisa> gottaGO: is Unity broken for you now? (the window management system)
[15:59] <gottaGO> odisa,  well the resolution is really weird :/
[16:00] <odisa> merely the resolution?
[16:00] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what makes you think win7 is installed?
[16:00] <kamran>  TJ-: your back?
[16:00] <eeee_> it might fix the problem of having the gpt backup partition still there, causing the problem (maybe)
[16:00] <TJ-> kamran: I am :)
[16:00] <gottaGO> I think so
[16:01] <kamran> TJ-: ok my Xorg usage normally is much lwoer now, but sometiems spikes too 100% and gets 20% with tear free but like 5% without it
[16:01] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you could use the tools from the thread i posted to fix the partition
[16:01] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I know its installed. Because if I reboot from hdd windows loads
[16:01] <gottaGO> odisa, everything else seems normal - expect some weird 600x400 ( whatever ) resolution...
[16:01] <kamran> TJ-: it lags much less now but still lags with tear free, i get these weird slowmotions in teamfortress 2
[16:01] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey will try that first then
[16:01] <odisa> if it's only the resoluton, just type in "displays" in the Unity search bar, and see if you can alter it manually gottaGO
[16:01] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: so the problem is you want to access your windows files from Ubuntu?
[16:02] <Somaya> what does dig ns. command do?
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I want win7 and ubuntu on one laptop
[16:02] <TJ-> kamran: Isn't 'tear-free' another name for vertical synchronisation, so the frames are only updated when the GPU isn't rendering the display framebuffer?
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> Dont care if I aceess files
[16:02] <kamran> TJ-: i guess
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> use cloud
[16:02] <kamran> TJ-: it amkes vertical sync on unless apps spicifies, that makes windows a little slower
[16:03] <eeee_> reisio: he is installing ubuntu with win7, already partitioned, but ubuntu installer says the drive is completely empty during the installation, lsblk sees the windows partition though
[16:03] <kamran> TJ-: but i can live with it now, it slower, another problem is that sublime scrolling still lags a lot !
[16:03] <TJ-> kamran: Usually V-Sync will lock to the local mains refresh which is 50Hz in Europe and most of Asia, and 60Hz in North America and other places
[16:03] <reisio> oh installing, sorry
[16:03] <kamran> TJ-> 0_0 what does it have to do with country?!
[16:03] <TJ-> kamran: Well, I can't really help you there... except to say... re-check the logs for clues of other issues
[16:03] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: laptop?
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: thanks a lot xD
[16:04] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: were you running with UEFI enabled before?
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: but anyway the teamfortress poroblem, can you help me with taht?
[16:04] <TJ-> kamran: V-Sync rate is matched to the local mains Alternating Current frequency
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: i tought its related to monitor
[16:04] <OerHeks> EL3PHANTEN, you had this issue yesterday too, then you were using gdisk, as you countered the GPT issue
[16:04] <swift_ninja> can i install ubuntu without removing the exisiting windows 8.1??
[16:05] <TJ-> kamran: Sorry, no, that's something you probably need hands-on to solve, because its about perception more than actual proven faults as shown by error reports
[16:05] <EL3PHANTEN> OerHeks Yes. formatted several times today
[16:05] <kamran> TJ-: ok thanks a lot for helping:) now the cpu usage is also fixed, only spikes to 100% rarely ! and gets 20% when selecting text but nromaly is only 2%
[16:06] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, the monitor being mains powered in the old Cathode Ray Tube days, the fly-back was synchronised to the mains frequency. So bit-blitting was done during flyback to avoid 'tearing' and other artifacts
[16:06] <odisa> reisio: So what mount point does GRUB usually sit in? This is the drive in GParted: http://i.imgur.com/HSS5jqb.png
[16:06] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: it came with win8 and UEFI
[16:06] <Somaya> can you tell me what does dig ns. command do?
[16:06] <swift_ninja> can i install ubuntu without removing the exisiting windows 8.1??
[16:06] <kamran> TJ-: :O cool, but anyway i gtg thanks ! i guess you also helped me ehre with another problem :P cya !
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: grub is usually installed into the beginning of the first device/disk, /dev/sda, before the first partition
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: with U/EFI it's a little different
[16:06] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: yes Lenovo IdeaPad s510p
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: and if you're dual booting, there are more considerations
[16:06] <TJ-> kamran: 20% during selecting sounds like the fancy 3D effects are being done on the CPU rather than via OpenGL on GPU, but I don't know if that is expected for that program, or not
[16:06] <Nohofoo> I wan't to join the vboxsf group on ubuntu 14.04
[16:07] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: look in your bios for sata options
[16:07] <reisio> Nohofoo: gpasswd
[16:07] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then that's probably the problem, windows 7 converted to MBR but the gpt backup partition is still there, confusing the installer
[16:07] <Nohofoo> so I tried :  sudo useradd vboxsf noah
[16:07] <odisa> reisio: it's a single boot disk, with apparently EFI and crypt-luks
[16:07] <kamran> TJ-: i was selecting text in terminal(top stats)
[16:07] <reisio> odisa: why do you ask?
[16:07] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN:  as per thread i gave you, so use FixParts
[16:07] <Somaya> can you people tell me what does dig ns. command do????????????????
[16:07] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ so I should reinstall the whole thing, with UEFI, or try fixparts first?
[16:08] <reisio> Somaya: 'man dig' can
[16:08] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey
[16:08] <Pici> Somaya: did you read the manpage?
[16:08] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, which runs under the X server ... which is responsible via the compositing manager for the effects
[16:08] <odisa> reisio: because running update & upgrade cmds gave me the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:08] <kamran> TJ-: so thats normal now !
[16:08] <kamran> TJ-: it used to go 60% when selecting and 20% idle, now its 20selcting and 2 idle :) but anyway thanks ! bye
[16:09] <odisa> selecting /boot seems logical, but I don't wanna mess up GRUB
[16:09] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: http://imgur.com/cumo8Rv,yghIGcs,m1NU6st,EB0UsVC there are 4 images BIOS
[16:09] <reisio> odisa: ask the channel, I'm unfamiliar with U/EFI
[16:09] <Somaya> pici the command is this
[16:09] <TJ-> kamran: Yay, that looks good. Enjoy :)
[16:09] <kamran> Bye :D
[16:09] <odisa> reisio: alright. thanks for having a look nevertheless
[16:09] <Pici> 70
[16:10] <TJ-> odisa: "grub-pc" means GRUB/Ubuntu is/was installed in Legacy BIOS mode. Were you expecting it to be UEFI?
[16:10] <Somaya> pici can you tell me what does it do?
[16:10] <Pici> Somaya: the manpage says it right at the top: DNS lookup utility
[16:11] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ what should I do fixparts on? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027515/
[16:11] <odisa> TJ-: To be honest, I just flew through the installation when I did it.. I don't even completely know what UEFI is
[16:12] <odisa> I selected the disk encryption option (not the home folder encryption) when installing
[16:12] <odisa> perhaps that that necessitated UEFI automatically?
[16:12] <MoPac> Hoping to clarify: is the only way to set custom touchscreen gestures (like 2-finger scroll) to install ginn?  And is the only way to enable ginn to modify the Unity source to disable all of its gesture handling?
[16:12] <swift_ninja> how can i dual boot my laptop with ubuntu. I am running windows 8.1 now??
[16:12] <TJ-> odisa: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, the replacement for the 'legacy' BIOS, which supports decent firmware <> OS communications, and removes the need for bootloaders that argue over which one is the primary
[16:13] <MoPac> !Dualboot | swift_ninja
[16:13] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: /dev/sdb
[16:13] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[16:14] <odisa> TJ-: ahh yes I vaguely remember.. iffy on the details. so my harddrive is configured to UEFI, while I probably still run BIOS? pardon the tangent, but that doesn't seem to make any sense
[16:14] <TJ-> odisa: When the motherboard's UEFI firmware looks for boot devices, if in UEFI-only mode (not Compatibility Support Module aka Legacy BIOS mode) it looks for a disk that is has a GUID Partition Table (GPT), and that has a FAT12/16/32 partition with type 'EF00', in which case it can read boot-loaders for all installed operating systems from there.
[16:15] <TJ-> odisa: If the CSM was enabled, then it is possible the Ubuntu installer was started in BIOS mode, in which case it wouldn't know there was an UEFI services and would use "grub-pc" instead of "grub-efi" to install the boot-loader to the disk.
[16:15] <gottaGO> odisa, it was after an HWE update - I followed the solution here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/503724/12-04-x-hwe-hardware-enablement-update-broke-nvidia-proprietary-drivers ] and now seems ok :)
[16:16] <TJ-> odisa: Choosing UEFI or Legacy BIOS CSM boot is sometimes difficult because the UEFI boot menu options don't make it clear which entry's are for an EFI boot and which will be 'legacy BIOS' boots
[16:16] <eeee_> odisa: do you remember if there was a tiny man at the bottom of the ubuntu load screen ?
[16:16] <TJ-> odisa: So, it may be worth reading the system manual and any other documentation about using the boot-loader
[16:16] <odisa> acryonym overload.. I don't understand why everything was working fine.. I mean I'm on the laptop as we speak. and now this error message
[16:17] <odisa> eeee_: I have a horrible memory, sorry
[16:17] <odisa> gottaGO:  thanks, I'll give that a read in a bit
[16:17] <odisa> glad you fixed your issue gottaGO
[16:17] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ I am at the part where it asks if I want to delete GPT signatures. yes or no
[16:17] <gottaGO> odisa, thanks for the help
[16:17] <odisa> sure thing :)
[16:18] <odisa> reisio: could it be that the GRUB was incorrectly updated, thus changing it to grub-pc?
[16:18] <LiamW> I'm starting to panic
[16:18] <LiamW> http://i.imgur.com/UuQtk3U.png
[16:18] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah
[16:18] <LiamW> breaking the lock then running sudo dpkg --configure -a segfaults with the same line
[16:20] <reisio> odisa: it could be that you didn't even have grub before
[16:20] <odisa> sorry I meant TJ- in that message, not reisio ..
[16:20] <odisa> could be..
[16:20] <reisio> and the script is too dumb to distinguish between not existing and things having changed
[16:21] <odisa> perhaps a clean install is in order then
[16:21] <odisa> just to simplify things
[16:21] <reisio> nah
[16:22] <odisa> would loading into the BIOS.. or I guess perhaps EFI, offer more information to aid diagnosis?
[16:22] <eeee_> odisa: i don't get what's going on with you, you are sure you're using uefi, and ubuntu is installed in uefi, but it's using the bios grub-pc?
[16:23] <daftykins> LiamW: i'd be using "sudo apt-get -f install" but i guess it calls the same thing in a round-about way. have you considered purging your package cache and having it re-download?
[16:23] <LiamW> daftykins: how should I go about doing that?
[16:23] <LiamW> that will probably end up calling the same thing
[16:23] <odisa> eeee_: I'm not sure.. I have barely a clue what the difference is between BIOS or UEFI, even though it was just explained to me.
[16:23] <odisa> eeee_: The HDD reads as EFI in GParted
[16:23] <daftykins> LiamW: sudo apt-get clean
[16:24] <eeee_> odisa: do you have a efi partition? type in the terminal lsblk | grep /boot/efi
[16:24] <LiamW> daftykins: looks like same crash
[16:24] <odisa> eeee_: ├─sda1                           8:1    0   512M  0 part  /boot/efi
[16:25] <eeee_> yeah so what makes you think you're using grub-pc?
[16:25] <TJ-> odisa: the "grub-pc" package is only installed to legacy BIOS systems; for UEFI systems "grub-efi" is installed. The decision is based on which mode the PC started in, and whether the OS can see the EFI services at "/sys/firmware/efi/..."
[16:25] <LiamW> daftykins: this is the last invocation before it dies: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-extlinux 3.13.0-33-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-33-generic
[16:25] <LiamW> it was executed by
[16:25] <LiamW> # run-parts -v /etc/kernel/postinst.d -a 3.13.0-33-generic -a /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-33-generic
[16:25] <TJ-> eeee_: "Configuring grub-pc" is a big hint at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:25] <odisa> eeee_: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:26] <Somaya> plz tell me what does dig ns. command do because my ubuntu is reinstalled
[16:26] <eeee_> sorry i wasn't following
[16:26] <reisio> Somaya: what?
[16:27] <Somaya> dig ns .
[16:27] <odisa> wouldn't having a UEFI system require manual updating to my MoBo, considering this laptop is 2 years old and UEFI is rather new?
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: Is this caused maybe by GRUB being installed to *two* drives, once in Legacy mode and the other in UEFI, and right now it has booted in legacy mode ?
[16:27] <Somaya> what does it do
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: UEFI came out in 2001 :)
[16:27] <reisio> Somaya: 'man dig'
[16:27] <odisa> TJ-: that could very well be! I have two drives with Ubuntu on it. and oh, my bad
[16:27] <Somaya> i sayed my ubuntu reinstalled
[16:27] <odisa> would unmounting the inactive Ubuntu 12.04 drive I have help?
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: Yeah... I think that is probably what has happened... if so, the solution may be as simple as altering the firmware's boot-order
[16:28] <aluno2> hack
[16:28] <TJ-> odisa: No, because grub-probe will search all connected devices looking for grub installations
[16:28] <reisio> well, not U-EFI, not exactly :p
[16:28] <aluno2> s
[16:28] <odisa> TJ-: so either change boot order, or disconnect HDD during GRUB update?
[16:28] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: finally. fixparts did it. Now I got the option to install together with windows. Now its installing. Actually I dont know if that was the wrong choise, now that I made that unallocated partition.
[16:29] <reisio> its adoption is slow, though, partly because all adoptions are slow, and partly because it has no particular benefit :p
[16:29] <Somaya> reisio , what do you mean?
[16:29] <reisio> Somaya: it's a command, run it
[16:29] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: great, i guess it will use the free space
[16:29] <Somaya> you can't know
[16:31] <brandon__> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with a USB 3rd party XBOX 360 gamepad, and my Google-Fu has proved unhelpful. Anyone able to help with that?
[16:31] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey. Other wise I just make another e: or something. Anyways. Thank you very much for your help. Have been dealing with this for days now.
[16:31] <aluno2> caris
[16:31] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: np
[16:31] <aluno2> ss
[16:31] <Pici> aluno2: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[16:32] <aluno2> yes
[16:32] <TJ-> odisa: Are you doing the grub-update from the running Ubuntu installation, or via a chroot from a recovery/Live boot?
[16:33] <aluno2> hacek
[16:33] <TJ-> odisa: because, if this is the actual installed system, it is installed in legacy mode otherwise the "grub-pc" package would not be installed at all
[16:33] <Pici> 70
[16:33] <Pici> 70
[16:33] <aluno2> hack?
[16:33] <Pici> ugh.
[16:33] <odisa> TJ-: just via the running installation ; a regular "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:33] <Pici> aluno2: not here.
[16:34] <ObrienDave> Pici, Do you have an Ubuntu question? ;P
[16:34] <LiamW> daftykins: computer is completely locked up on X side, can't use TTYs due to my problem in question #252431
[16:34] <Pici> ObrienDave: I just can't type today.
[16:34] <odisa> TJ-: Alright.. so how do I proceed given it is in legacy mode?
[16:34] <ObrienDave> LOL so i noticed :))
[16:34] <daftykins> LiamW: oh so you're not physically at this thing?
[16:34] <daftykins> LiamW: is this machine known-stable?
[16:34] <aluno2> sisis
[16:34] <aluno2> lol
[16:35] <Nohofoo> I changed ownership of ‘sf_UbuntuShare/’ from root to noah
[16:35] <TJ-> odisa: can you do "pastebinit < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:35] <Nohofoo> but
[16:35] <LiamW> daftykins: I am at the machine, it's Ubuntu GNOME 14.04
[16:35] <LiamW> I have an IRC bouncer
[16:35] <EmberCrest> Is there a way to download a file over SSH? I want to go to my webserver and download a .zip
[16:35] <Nohofoo> It wtill says: drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[16:36] <daftykins> LiamW: i'd be rebooting and memtesting i would think
[16:36] <Pici> EmberCrest: Use scp.
[16:36] <daftykins> EmberCrest: wget <URL>
[16:36] <odisa> TJ-: I copied and pasted what was within those quotes, and the terminal just exited out on me.. nothing else happened
[16:36] <daftykins> EmberCrest: or as Pici said, depends how they're connected and how the file is shared
[16:37] <codephobic> hi
[16:37] <EmberCrest> Its a .zip on a public webserver
[16:37] <eeee_> EmberCrest: scp user@host:/path/to/file /destination/folder
[16:37] <EmberCrest> Oh ok thanks.
[16:37] <pbx> EmberCrest, the Files app has a "Connect to Server" option also
[16:37] <EmberCrest> I'm on SSH
[16:37] <EmberCrest> :P
[16:37] <EmberCrest> No UI available.
[16:37] <codephobic> are there any utilities to monitor system/cpu fans in ubuntu? I'm just wondering if there's any way to monitor the speed of my Hyper Evo 212.
[16:37] <eeee_> EmberCrest: that's a terminal command
[16:38] <odisa> if there's a way to log it to file, I'll upload it manually TJ-
[16:38] <pbx> eeee_, EmberCrest was probably responding to my suggestion re the Files app
[16:38] <Busserl> EmberCrest: scp will download the file encrypted, so wget should suffice for a public file anyway.
[16:38] <eeee_> ah, i see
[16:38] <bcvery> !sensors | codephobic
[16:39] <odisa> ohh hold on.. I don't have pastebinit installed
[16:39] <odisa> and of course.. dpkg is occupied by the GRUB update
[16:39] <LiamW> daftykins: perhaps the reboot was all it needed. The updates installed without crashing and operation seems back to normal
[16:39] <TJ-> odisa: can you do "cat  >/tmp/gdisk.log < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:40] <LiamW> daftykins: I highly doubt a RAM issue, this is a new build
[16:40] <odisa> TJ-: I did that. Let me check that path now.
[16:40] <Nohofoo> how do i get access to this dir?: drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[16:40] <codephobic> thanks
[16:40] <erm3nda> YEAH! HI!
[16:41] <Nohofoo> do i have to shre it from host which is win 8?
[16:41] <ortsvorsteher> Good evening. i run a 12.04 Ubuntu on my laptop. i stopped with ubuntu one services since i had the information that the service will be stopped. now, i still get everey time i log into my computer, that the ubuntu one services will be shut down. how can i turn of that message?
[16:41] <daftykins> LiamW: you'd be surprised what quirks can rise from RAM - a friend had a new build that firefox always crashed with, despite memtest'ing fine, prime95'ing fine... change of RAM fixed it. i could never explain it despite dealing with hardware for a living
[16:42] <erm3nda> im facing poblems with a "broken" install of Ubuntu under a small androidTV device (mk802). No i just have access to Buxybox on ramfs.
[16:42] <erm3nda> I can mount device sdcad succesfull, but cannot mount found mtd block devices. Help :(
[16:42] <odisa> TJ-: do I have to include the quotes? I did it without.. seemed to work fine first time I did it, nothing showed up in /tmp, did it a second time and now it won't clear the line if you get what I mean
[16:42] <odisa> no new user@device comes up
[16:43] <daftykins> erm3nda: you should talk to the manufacturer, pretty sure that'll be a modded version and thus we can't support it
[16:43] <LiamW> Does anyone have any idea why I get like 15 kerneloops crash messages on login, mostly about Alsa?
[16:43] <daftykins> not without logs
[16:44] <daftykins> (and i'd be useless with them, but submit them to the channel)
[16:44] <LiamW> Hmm, I might have to reboot again, it's locked up
[16:44] <ObrienDave> LiamW, REISUB
[16:44] <leeyaa> hello
[16:44] <leeyaa> how to downgrade php to 5.3 on ubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: I surround the commands in quotes to clearly delineate them
[16:45] <daftykins> LiamW: memtest o'clock :)
[16:45] <odisa> TJ-: I was looking in the wrong tmp folder.. sorry..
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: maybe I got the "cat..." version wrong, all those redirections sometimes get confusing
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: !!!
[16:46] <ortsvorsteher> !php | ortsvorsteher
[16:46] <odisa> TJ-: gdisk.log is empty
[16:46] <LiamW> daftykins: I looked through my dmesg, didn't find the word "oops" other than a PID
[16:46] <OerHeks> leeyaa, why would you want that?
[16:47] <leeyaa> OerHeks: it is easier to just do it than explain. in short, it is requirement to keep things consistent.
[16:48] <TJ-> odisa: Hmmm... hang on, let me check here
[16:49] <daftykins> leeyaa: if you can find the matched version on one host, you might be able to install "package:version#" or just take the .deb's from the first system you setup
[16:49] <odisa> TJ-: I guess I could cancel out of the GRUB updater and run grub-install later, no?
[16:49] <TJ-> odisa: this works here: "cat >/tmp/gdisk.log < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:49] <LiamW> daftykins: by PID I mean /usr/sbin/kerneloops with PID 1258
[16:49] <leeyaa> daftykins: what about repository ?
[16:49] <odisa> thereby freeing up dpkg and allowing me to install pastebinit
[16:49] <odisa> I'll try that first then
[16:49] <daftykins> leeyaa: what do you mean?
[16:49] <TJ-> odisa: I wonder... are you using the BASH or DASH shell ("echo $SHELL") ?
[16:49] <leeyaa> daftykins: replace package version for apt by adding a repository for that, similar to centos
[16:50] <leeyaa> im not sure how to find package:version in apt, i did try searching in cache for 5.3
[16:50] <daftykins> leeyaa: as in set up your own cache mirror?
[16:50] <odisa> bash, TJ-
[16:50] <TJ-> odisa: OK, then that command should work.
[16:50] <leeyaa> daftykins: no, it is fresh 14.04 and i need to install php 5.3
[16:51] <odisa> TJ-: can I add -v to run it in verbose somehow?
[16:51] <daftykins> leeyaa: oh so perhaps 14.04 never had 5.3 then
[16:51] <bijoo_> I have Nvidia optimus card; and of course Ubuntu don't work with that (well it does, but don't really support it; e.g. can't have multiple monitors) So now I'm running a Windows as host; and running Ubuntu raw disk VM; and can setup multiple monitors; though I feel like a cheat, I'm glad it works.
[16:52] <leeyaa> daftykins: would searching for php5.3 be enough to find it ?
[16:52] <TJ-> odisa: switch it around a bit: "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda >/tmp/gdisk.log; sudo gdisk -l /dev/ssdb >>/tmp/gdisk.log"
[16:52] <LiamW> bijoo_: proprietary drivers, eh
[16:52] <OerHeks> !info php5 precise
[16:52] <tekk> i just upgraded my kernel, prior to which, usb hard drives came up as “ata-ST3000DM001-9YN166_Z1F12VEF” and so on… now they come up as “usb-ST3000DM_001-9YN112_1F12EFFFFFFF-0:0”, did usb-storage get some kinda upgrade?
[16:52] <OerHeks> leeyaa, intall 12.04
[16:52] <daftykins> bijoo_: did you not try bumblebee and nvidia-prime? optimus isn't a card but a technology.
[16:52] <TJ-> odisa: correct my ssdb typo!
[16:52] <bijoo_> LiamW: I know; I'm stupid for not checking first. Never buying Nvidia again.
[16:52] <LiamW> bijoo_: really? they make some of the best cards out there
[16:52] <leeyaa> OerHeks: i need to install it on trusty
[16:53] <bijoo_> daftykins: I'd spent too many hours for my good; this semes like the best solution for me.
[16:53] <leeyaa> we are upgrading from ubuntu 6, 8 and 12 to 14.04 LTS
[16:53] <odisa> TJ-: I did that, and success!
[16:53] <daftykins> leeyaa: probably not no 'cause it'd be nestled under 'php5' so you'd need the specific version of that package name
[16:53] <leeyaa> so i guess ill have to look for a .deb package then
[16:53] <bijoo_> LiamW: I know, but seems proprietary stuff; it don't mix well with Ubuntu too well.
[16:53] <daftykins> bijoo_: ok, so you don't actually have a question then, you just came in to say that? ;)
[16:53] <odisa> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028029/
[16:53] <TJ-> tekk: symlink paths are created by udev, not the kernel
[16:53] <tekk> ok
[16:53] <tekk> hmm
[16:53] <tekk> additionally it seems the usb 3.0 devices seem to being treated as usb 2.0
[16:54] <LiamW> bijoo_: works mostly ok here, nouveau drivers don't actually work for me but nvidia drivers are good, I can use CUDA, etc
[16:54] <tekk> need to look into that… it may be the bios, so will check there before digging into ehci
[16:54] <bijoo_> daftykins: Yes I'm just throwing it out in the room; since I know I'm not the only one there ;)
[16:54] <TJ-> odisa: OK, you see /dev/sda has partition #1 type EF00? That's an EFI System Partition
[16:55] <TJ-> odisa: whereas /dev/sdb has a legacy MBR partition table so can only be the boot device in CSM mode
[16:55] <bijoo_> LiamW: yes, I've always switch to Windows for that.
[16:56] <TJ-> odisa: /dev/sda also has two other Linux file systems.... use "sudo blkid /dev/sda*" and then pastebin the result, please
[16:56] <odisa> TJ-: ... I can boot in to either just fine. Maybe it automatically switches? Either way.. I suppose I shouldn't install grub-pc on sda then?
[16:56] <odisa> will do
[16:57] <TJ-> odisa: Indeed not!
[16:57] <daftykins> leeyaa: perhaps finding a PPA with the older version and prioritising it would be your best bet, i think what you're doing is wrong though for what it's worth.
[16:57] <TJ-> odisa: Choose /dev/sdb
[16:57] <erm3nda>  daftykins: i have no asking about firm, device or somethingelse. Im asking about how to mount mtd block devices from Ubuntu :(
[16:58] <leeyaa> daftykins: atm im testing and writing plans to update os, later we will deal with the code. it might even work with 5.5.9 but i really doubt it.
[16:58] <daftykins> erm3nda: right, but we only support official versions of the OS.
[16:58] <odisa> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028066/
[16:58] <TJ-> odisa: I think the problem here is, you've got 2 separate Ubuntu installations :)
[16:58] <odisa> TJ-: despite my lack of knowledge on the subject, I'm inclined to believe your theory of sdb messing up the updater is correct
[16:59] <jkcso> TJ-, Actually, that looks more akin to one encrypted install.
[16:59] <odisa> Yes.. I figured that wouldn't be a problem if on seperate disks and one unmounted..
[16:59] <shal3r> I ended up with zero free disk space while upgrading kernels (apt-get dist-upgrade) and got few errors in update process. How to assure that system will not be broken?
[16:59] <jkcso> TJ-, EFI, /boot, and everything else. Without seeing the partition sizes, though, that's just a guess.
[16:59] <TJ-> odisa: OK, so that output shows that /dev/sda3 is the encrypted volume, and we know from the previous pastebins that /dev/sda2 is an unencrypted /boot/ partition that presumably belongs with it
[16:59] <odisa> one is encrypted with the crypt-luks that came with the new 14.04. the other is 12.04
[16:59] <daftykins> shal3r: you can remove some older kernels and make space. is this with a separate /boot partition?
[16:59] <TJ-> jkcso: Yes, that's correct.
[16:59] <odisa> TJ-: that I can follow
[17:00] <jkcso> TJ-, I feel like I've missed a preceding portion of this conversation.
[17:00] <erm3nda> daftykins: understand. Maybe later come back and ask how to mount mtd devices over a manufactured Ubuntu device...  :(
[17:00] <TJ-> odisa: So, for this pending grub-install operation choose "/dev/sdb" and you'll be fine
[17:00] <erm3nda> sad to know. Thank you anyway
[17:00] <TJ-> jkcso: About 1/2 hour worth :)
[17:00] <shal3r> daftykins, i freed some disk space now and it's not on /boot. i just need to somehow be sure that new kernels are not broken
[17:00] <jkcso> Right.
[17:00] <daftykins> shal3r: reinstall them.
[17:01] <odisa> Installation finished. No error reported :D
[17:02] <shal3r> daftykins, i copied all package names which i saw at first dist-upgrade and put them like that: # apt-get install --reinstall bc linux-headers-2.6.32-64 linux-headers-2.6.32-64-server linux-headers-2.6.38-16 linux-headers-2.6.38-16-generic linux-image-2.6.32-64-server linux-image-2.6.38-16-generic landscape-common linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-server linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-image-server linux-server
[17:02] <TJ-> jkcso: summary: 2 disks; sda with an UEFI install of 14.04 with FDE, and sdb with a legacy BIOS install of 12.04, I think. Currently booted from /dev/sdb with a legacy 'grub-pc' "grub-install" operation asking which device to write the MBR + core.img to... so we have been confirming what the correct selection should be there.
[17:02] <shal3r> i hope i will not break that box :)
[17:03] <jkcso> TJ-, gotcha.
[17:03] <daftykins> shal3r: yeah that's too much, you can see recently downloaded packages within /var/cache/apt/archives/ so you can grab names from there
[17:03] <TJ-> jkcso: see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028029/
[17:04] <shal3r> daftykins, these packages where shown as "The following NEW packages will be installed" and "The following packages will be upgraded"
[17:04] <odisa> well thanks a lot TJ- , reirio, eeee_, jkcso :)
[17:04] <shal3r> when i unsuccessfully ran `apt-get dist-upgrade`
[17:04]  * jkcso didn't do squat. :P
[17:04] <daftykins> shal3r: ok, well as i say reinstall or run 'sudo apt-get -f install' to confirm things are happy
[17:04] <shal3r> daftykins, ok, thanks
[17:05] <odisa> jkcso: well you tried.. just missed the train, lol
[17:05] <odisa> still appreciate the gesture
[17:05] <shal3r> dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):\n subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:05] <jkcso> Sure thing.
[17:06] <Nohofoo> ls: cannot open directory sf_UbuntuShare/: Permission denied
[17:07] <Nohofoo> id noah
[17:07] <Nohofoo> 999(vboxsf)
[17:07] <Nohofoo> drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[17:07] <awc> When I boot up my computer, everything seems to be going okay, except that the screen resolution is not quite right. logging in, results in my background, and a dialog box saying system problem detected. and no mouse cursor. any thoughts?
[17:07] <daftykins> Nohofoo: don't just spam us with junk, state a question
[17:08] <daftykins> !paste | Nohofoo For future reference
[17:08] <Nohofoo> why can't i change ownership of a dir?
[17:08] <daftykins> awc: describe what's happened here, have you just upgraded? is this a clean install? which version?
[17:08] <daftykins> Nohofoo: what are you trying to run to do it?
[17:09] <daftykins> Nohofoo: you should be adding your user to the 'vboxsf' group by the looks of it
[17:09] <Nohofoo> sudo chown -v  noah sf_UbuntuShare/
[17:09] <awc> daftykins, runnin 14.04 clean install. I don't know what started the problem, but power was cut to my place while my computer was on
[17:09] <Nohofoo> changed ownership of ‘sf_UbuntuShare/’ from root to noah
[17:10] <Nohofoo> id noah
[17:10] <Nohofoo> 999(vboxsf)
[17:10] <daftykins> awc: ok, can you reach a TTY with (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 through F6 to login and try a few things?
[17:10] <awc> done!
[17:10] <daftykins> Nohofoo: assuming that's a file share for virtualbox, join their channel and ask how it's meant to work
[17:10] <daftykins> awc: does this system connect wirelessly or wired?
[17:10] <awc> daftykins, wired
   thanks i tried that first
[17:11] <daftykins> Nohofoo: was nobody there?
[17:12] <daftykins> awc: excellent, can you do an 'ifconfig -a' and check if your eth0 has an IP on your LAN?
[17:12] <Nohofoo> <daftykins  283 peeps are there
[17:13] <daftykins> Nohofoo: i meant responsive obviously, haha
[17:13] <Nohofoo> manual says join the group to get access..so I joined the group
[17:13] <awc> daftykins, It looks like it.
[17:14] <daftykins> awc: cool, run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure
[17:14] <daftykins> Nohofoo: ah did you reboot yet though?
[17:14] <Nohofoo> no reboot
[17:14] <daftykins> do it :>
[17:14] <daftykins> or at least logout and in
[17:14] <Nohofoo> Ok I will
[17:15] <awc> daftykins,  It's running an upgrade to the kernel now
[17:15] <Nohofoo> no tutorial mentioned re log in or reboot
[17:15] <lessless> how to open a tab in existing terminal window and run a command there?
[17:16] <beandog> ctl-shift-t
[17:16] <daftykins> lessless: shortcut keys are beside the options with clicking on the file menu
[17:16] <lessless> beandog, I mean programmaticly
[17:16] <lessless> from a bash function
[17:16] <daftykins> awc: good stuff, let it do that then reboot and come back - if it's still broken, please log in again and install the package "pastebinit" followed by sharing your Xorg log via "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:17] <daftykins> lessless: BASH doesn't know about the terminal emulator in use, i doubt it's do-able... try asking in bash's channel though
[17:17] <beandog> lessless: beats me.  maybe look at tmux
[17:17] <beandog> lessless: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:18] <saiborg> Hello
[17:18] <lessless> I  need to run a 4 daemon processes on the same port each in separate tab
[17:18] <lessless> *each on the different ports
[17:18] <lessless> sorry :)
[17:18] <lessless> in the foreground
[17:19] <sai> Hello
[17:19] <Nohofoo> I	 rebooted and now have acesss to the folder
[17:19] <beandog> lessless: yah I'd look at tmux, you can probably script something to run in 4 window panes