[00:26] <platinum_> hi all, I'm looking for help with an old Ubuntu server? Is this the right place?
[00:27] <platinum_> Anyone online?
[00:28] <qman__> this is the right place, but it's a relatively quiet room, need some !patience
[00:30] <qman__> !ask
[01:56] <JonEdney> I'm getting ready to set up my Ubuntu server on an actual machine insteadd of a VM.  I'm kinda curious, does anyone have any up-time monitoring software/service to recommend?
[02:12] <mariooo> hi all. so I've got a syntax error in /etc/sudoers on 12.04, obv wasn't smart enough to be logged in as root when making changes
[02:13] <mariooo> so now can't use sudo, can't use visudo, pkexec isn't installed... what other options do I have other than rebuilding the VM?
[02:14] <lifeless> boot it into recovery mode
[02:15] <mariooo> can I initiate a reboot without sudo?
[02:15] <mariooo> or rather: how would one do that, I thought you couldn't
[02:16] <mariooo> I can power off the machine but then it seems I can't get into a VNC console quick enough to hit escape to halt on the grub menu
[02:17] <lifeless> mariooo: I'm not sure
[02:17] <lifeless> mariooo: alternatively you could mount the vm disk and edit it manually
[02:18] <mariooo> lifeless: awesome, thanks for the tips
[02:25] <mariooo> lifeless: managed to get into recovery mode, but everything seems to be readonly...? have I missed something?
[02:39] <mariooo> lifeless: nvm, bug in 12.04 recovery mode. enabling networking first remounts disk as rw. success!
[02:43] <lifeless> mariooo: excellent
[02:43] <qman__> mariooo, for future reference, pressing ctrl alt del on a 'local' terminal reboots
[02:43] <qman__> like from the VM console
[02:51] <mariooo> qman__: awesome, will keep that in mind. I wonder how you ctrl+alt+del over VNC with a mac keyboard hah
[04:47] <axisys> eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> is pingable.. but eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS> or eth0:2 <IP_ADDRESS> are not, from remote host.. what gives?
[06:03] <mgw> any ideas why this command, if executed after logging in, works as expected, but not if I pass it to ssh as the command to execute:
[06:03] <mgw> (nohup watch ls -l & disown -h)
[06:03] <mgw> in the first case, the command continues to live after logging out
[06:04] <mgw> in teh second case it dies
[06:13] <rbasak> mgw: I don't understand what you're trying to do, but try using "ssh -T ... </dev/null" to make it behave more "normally".
[06:14] <_ruben> heh .. what use it to run watch in the background? :P
[06:15] <rbasak> That confused me too :)
[06:17] <mgw> It's just a test
[06:17] <mgw> I'm trying to run ngrep
[06:18] <grendal-prime> stgraber, you aroud still?
[06:19] <_ruben> cleanest would probably to write a (perl/python/whatever) script that properly forks and runs the command(s) you want
[07:58] <yaboo> hey guys got my server working with iptables for masquerading and ufw for firewall, but for the life of me, how can I forward ports from ppp0 to a internal server
[08:08] <Daviey> jtv: Hey, i think i missed your comment about python-django regarding translations.. Do you know what i need to change?
[08:09] <jtv> Daviey: its translations uploads (as produced by the build) should follow our naming conventions:
[08:09] <jtv>  - One template per directory.
[08:09] <jtv>  - Translation files named <language code>.po
[08:09] <jtv>  - Each translation file in the exact same directory as its template.
[08:10] <jtv> The translations import queue gardener uses this to figure out which template and language a PO file upload is for.
[08:11] <jtv> Hey there mrevell
[08:13] <mrevell> Hello jtv
[08:20] <Daviey> jtv: Hmm, ok.. is there a way i can test changes work, without doing another upload?
[08:23] <jtv> Daviey: there's not too much to test, so I can just have a look at whatever you get, but you could try tar'ing up the .po & .pot files you get, uploading those to qastaging or staging, and then approving (or have someone like dpm or myself approve) the templates for import.  The templates (i.o.w. the .pot files) should then be imported, and the .po files should be approved and then be imported themselves.
[08:23] <jtv> (You can't upload to a package that way, but the effect is much the same if you upload to a project release series on [qa]staging)
[08:25] <Daviey> jtv: ok.. will try to do it, or get it done at least by EOD
[08:25] <jtv> Thanks!
[08:25] <jtv> One of those things I wish I had enough priority for: overhauling automatic approval.
[08:26] <Daviey> jtv: ah, so it does work.. just a manual process to accept?
[08:26] <jtv> Just for the templates, yes.
[08:26] <Daviey> but the existing translations are dropped on the floor?
[08:27] <jtv> And when we open a new series, whatever templates are current in the existing Ubuntu get copied over (and any applicable translations shared) so that the new series will populate itself very quickly.
[08:27] <jtv> Translations of the same strings in the template with the same name are dynamically shared between release series.
[08:27] <Daviey> right
[08:27] <Daviey> but 'upstream' translations are lost for new uploads?
[08:27] <jtv> So as soon as a message gets translated in Oneiric, it's translated in Precise, and vice versa.
[08:28] <jtv> There is also sharing between upstream and Ubuntu.  By and large, Ubuntu automatically gets the upstream ones.
[08:28] <jtv> The other way is dependent on permissions etc.
[08:28] <Daviey> right
[08:28] <Daviey> thanks jtv
[08:35] <jamespage> morning all
[09:48] <soren_> Daviey: You do per-commit package builds of Essex for testing, right?
[09:51] <Daviey> soren_: yes
[09:51] <soren_> Daviey: Which packaging branch are you using?
[09:51] <Daviey> soren_: although, it's offline at this very minute.. the hardware had to be relocated to a different DC
[09:52] <soren_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/nova/essex doesn not apply for me right now.
[09:53] <Daviey> soren_: I suspect it needs rebasing.. the c-i is down, and it seemed like the best time to fixer it.
[09:53] <Daviey> as in, early in the cycle.
[09:54] <soren_> Oh, ok, so that is indeed the right branch?
[09:54] <Daviey> yep
[09:54] <soren_> Cool.
[09:54] <soren_> I'll look no further
[09:54] <Daviey> soren_: any rebasing is most welcome :)
[09:54] <soren_> I'm on it.
[09:54] <Daviey> \o/
[10:02] <daker> hi
[10:03] <daker> i think this bug 1004316 is reported on the wrong project
[10:12] <Daviey> it is indeed incorrect... smoser will fix0r that when he starts for the day i believe
[10:12] <Daviey> thanks daker
[10:13] <daker> yw ツ
[10:20] <nocturn> Hi, I'm having trouble getting dnat to work on my 11.10 KVM server
[10:21] <soren_> Daviey: Merge prop pushed.
[10:21] <nocturn> I'm tryint for DNAT port 25 to <IP_ADDRESS> using -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:22] <nocturn> dnat rule shows up:  DNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:smtp to:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:22] <soren_> nocturn: You're misspelling the IP.
[10:22] <nocturn> OK
[10:22] <nocturn> have been trying this for a while!
[10:22] <soren_> "OK"?
[10:23] <soren_> I was expecting an "Oh, so I am" or something. Not "OK".
[10:23] <soren_> You say you're trying to DNAT to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[10:23] <soren_> ...but then proceed to DNAT to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[10:24] <nocturn> soren_, OK meant that I just noticed my mistake.  I'm trying with the correct rule
[10:24] <nocturn> I had port 2222 forwarded to .11, and in my tries, the rules got mixed up -> my mistake...
[10:25] <soren_> Ok.
[10:25] <yaboo> nocturne you using iptables for port forwarding>
[10:27] <nocturn> so, corrected the rule
[10:27] <nocturn> DNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             alpha               tcp dpt:smtp to:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:27] <nocturn> added iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
[10:27] <soren_> You changed something else, too.
[10:27] <nocturn> but still no luck
[10:27] <soren_> It says "alpha" where it used to say "anywhere"
[10:27] <nocturn> yes added -d <public_ip>
[10:28] <nocturn> the host has 3 public ip's
[10:28] <nocturn> only alpha should accept traffic
[10:28] <nocturn> nmap now shows the port open
[10:28] <soren_> Pastebin the output of "iptables-save"
[10:28] <soren_> You know that DNAT only changes the destination address, right?
[10:29] <soren_> The guest vm (I'm guessing these are VM's based on the subnet) will still see the real source IP. If you're multihomed, you may need to ensure that traffic goes back the same way it came from.
[10:30] <nocturn> soren_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006196/
[10:30] <nocturn> I need to add an snat rule?
[10:31] <soren_> I have no way to know.
[10:33] <soren_> nocturn: Are you  aware the ordering matters with iptables?
[10:33] <nocturn> yes
[10:33] <soren_> -A FORWARD -o virbr1 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[10:33] <soren_> -A FORWARD -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o virbr0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[10:35] <nocturn> this is incorrect?  They are 2 different bridges.
[10:36] <soren_> Err..
[10:36] <nocturn> the mailserver is on virbr0
[10:36] <soren_> Yeah, sorry.
[10:36] <soren_> I just got confused by all the repeated rules.
[10:36] <soren_> But there are definietely rules in there that'll never ever be used.
[10:37] <soren_> Very high up, you have:
[10:37] <soren_> -A FORWARD -o virbr1 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[10:37] <soren_> -A FORWARD -i virbr1 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[10:37] <soren_> ..but then further down, you have other rules that refer to -o virbr1 or -i virbr1, but by then, the packets have already been REJECTed.
[10:38] <soren_> Same for virbr0, although you don't have those REJECT rules quite as early.
[10:38] <nocturn> I just commented out the rejects as a test
[10:38] <nocturn> for both bridges
[10:38] <nocturn> it made no difference
[10:39] <soren_> BTW, INPUT is irreleveant when you're doing DNAT.
[10:39] <soren_> When you're DNATing, you're forwarding traffic.
[10:40]  * soren_ needs lunch
[12:16] <ARTSIOM> how can I get a list of packages I have explicitly installed on a system? running "aptititide search '~i'" gives me the list of installed packages marking by "A" automatic packages, but it also includes packages which where installed together with the system.
[12:22] <KingKatari> is there any other place in ubuntu server 12.04 LTS version that controls the total number of connections into a server besides net.core.somaxconn??????????
[12:28] <_ruben> KingKatari: there's also a connection tracking limit as part of netfilter, but that only applies if there's any firewall rules present
[12:29] <KingKatari>  any other
[12:30] <_ruben> not that i'm aware of (which doesn't mean all that much really :))
[12:30] <KingKatari> lol
[12:54] <smoser> man.
[12:54] <_ruben> woman.
[12:54] <smoser> i have got to upgrade to quantal so i stop getting that annoying update manager popup.
[13:10] <_ruben> hehe
[13:22] <nocturn> soren_: I solved my issue.  It was my isp blocking outgoing access to port 25!  If you're ever in Antwerp/Belgium, I owe you a beer
[13:26] <zul> smoser: you should be dog fooding anyways )
[13:26] <smoser> zul, are you on quantal?
[13:26] <zul> smoser: my server is
[13:26] <smoser> i eat dog food every morning for breakfast.
[13:26] <smoser> server. ppft.
[13:27] <smoser> "i have a virtual machine that i never use that is using quantal"
[13:27] <zul> smoser: because on the internet no one knows you are a dog right?
[13:27] <smoser> hardly means anything.
[13:27] <smoser> primary work station, man.
[13:27] <smoser> :)
[13:27] <zul> smoser:  well i work on the sever so i dog food it :)
[13:27] <randomDude> oh internet
[13:27] <zul> smoser: ppphpppt...i dont think so
[13:28] <smoser> no one *knew* i was a dog, until zul spilled the beans.
[13:28] <zul> smoser:  i work for tmz
[13:37] <hallyn> ruff
[13:43] <highvoltage> hallyn: ruff? makes me think of http://www.sadanduseless.com/2012/05/oh-you/ :)
[13:45] <hallyn> highvoltage: nice collection :)
[13:58] <smb> hallyn, On a very quick and not too sophisticated testing your libvirt-0.9.12-0ubuntu1 looks to be working (just installed on a 64bit quantal xen hv and booted one hvm via virt-manager (plus shutdown)).
[13:58] <hallyn> smb: zul's, you mean :)  cool, thanks!
[13:58] <zul> hallyn/smb: cool
[13:59] <smb> hallyn, whoever did it... :-P
[13:59] <smb> That could help to ignore that strange ftbs on i386 that http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/primary-quantal.html#main shows
[14:21] <zul> hallyn: im going to upload libvirt today
[14:36] <hallyn> zul: excellent.  so dwarves MIR was approved?
[14:36] <zul> hallyn: yep
[14:37] <hallyn> yeah, that ftbfs (if it's the one i'm thinking of) was due to gnulib.  hopefully it just doesn't happen in 0.9.12
[14:37] <hallyn> stgraber: around?
[14:38] <hallyn> I'm doing the lxc patch to mount rootfs under /var/lib/lxc/<cn>/root
[14:38] <hallyn> But, I'll need to also do a mount --make-shared in src/lxc/conf.c for that dir
[14:38] <hallyn> I'm looking for how to decide on whether to do that
[14:38] <hallyn> (i can't do that when containers are using a shared dir)
[14:40] <hallyn> I could just say "if strncmp(target, "/var/lib/lxc/", 13)" then make it rshared
[14:40] <hallyn> kind of ugly, but should DTRT
[14:40] <zul> Daviey: what version should we be calling the openstack SRUs
[14:41] <zul> Daviety: for the snapshots? 2012.1~201205XX-0ubuntu2.1?
[14:41] <hallyn> or, i could add a separate 'lxc.root.public = [true/false]" to the config, but that's kind of hacky too
[14:43] <stgraber> hallyn: you could have something like lxc.mountfs = <PATH> to override the default of /var/lib/lxc/<container>/rootfs
[14:44] <stgraber> hallyn: then anything that uses a shared /var/lib/<container> will have to set it to something unique
[14:44] <hallyn> stgraber: there already is a lxc variable for where to mount.  So I'm just having the templates set that
[14:44] <hallyn> Question is fo when that dir should be make MS_SHARED
[14:44] <hallyn> but i think i've got it,
[14:44] <hallyn> i'll just do it always so long as that dir != LXCROOTFSMOUNT
[14:44] <hallyn> (where LXCROOTFSMOUNT for us is /usr/lib/lxc/root)
[14:45] <hallyn> (lxc.rootfs.mount is the config variable for that, btw)
[14:56] <stgraber> hallyn: is lxc-shutdown upstream?
[14:57] <hallyn> looks like no
[14:57] <hallyn> pretty sure i sent it.
[14:59] <Daviey> zul: git$DATE-$(shortsum)
[14:59] <zul> Daviey: ack
[15:01] <stgraber> hallyn: ok. I replied to Christian regarding clean shutdown of container on lxc-devel, would be great if you could push the two lxc-shutdown patches.
[15:02] <hallyn> ok, put on my list.
[15:11] <smoser> zul, here is fine.
[15:11] <zul> smoser: i havent looked at the image but i assumed it was qemu-system-arm
[15:13] <smoser> he does say "highbank kernel"
[15:13] <smoser> which would imply arm kenrel and not qemu-arm
[15:14] <zul> smoser: obviously we need more info :)
[15:14] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dannf/+junk/make-highbank-ami/files
[15:14] <ogra_> there is a qemu version for highbank
[15:14] <smoser> is reported the scripts used to make it.
[15:14] <smoser> dannf, ping
[15:14] <ogra_> but neither packaged nor released yet afaik
[15:14] <Daviey> zul: the deal is, libvirt automatically notices new systems
[15:23] <dannf> smoser: yo
[15:24] <dannf> ogra_: supposedly highbank support is all upstream, might even work in precise - but the upstream code isn't ideal for what i'm doing here (it boots kernel from host system, not from disk image)
[15:24] <smoser> dannf, so the ami you set up
[15:24] <smoser> i launch it, ssh in, and i'm in a qemu-system-arm vm, is that right?
[15:24] <dannf> smoser: that's correct
[15:24] <smoser> you modified the host to pass a single (ssh) port thorugh? or everything?
[15:25] <smoser> is there a way to get to the host?
[15:25] <dannf> smoser: all bridged through, no way to get to the host
[15:25] <smoser> oh, and btw, this is really cool, thank you for doing that.
[15:25] <dannf> thx
[15:25] <dannf> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dannf/+junk/make-highbank-ami/view/head:/mac-switcheroo.sh
[15:26] <smoser> dannf, ok. so zul was inteerested in reproducing this on a local system (obviously without mac_switcheroo)
[15:28] <dannf> zul: sure, let me know if you need any help w/ that
[15:28] <smoser> dannf,  you should have hacked cloud-init in the "guest"
[15:28] <smoser> to get ports.ubuntu.com sources.list
[15:29] <smoser> although i guess we can actually pass that in as user-data. funny.
[15:29] <dannf> smoser: true
[15:29] <smoser> (userdata does work?)
[15:29]  * dannf should probably respin for that
[15:29] <dannf> i don't know if userdata works or no - i've a lot to learn about cloud-init
[15:39] <smoser> dannf, testing userdata
[15:42] <claude2> whats the best way to monitor dell raid cards in ubuntu these days?
[15:43] <claude2> i saw a post about a 3rd party repo to install the LSI megacli tool
[15:43] <claude2> not sure if theres a good dell method without installing the entire OMSA tools
[15:57] <hallyn> stgraber: (finally read the shutdown thread) boy some people want to make things complicated...
[15:57] <stgraber> hallyn: as usual ;)
[15:58] <stgraber> hallyn: I actually skipped most of Christian's e-mail when I saw that he didn't look at lxc-shutdown and just suggested he looks at it :)
[15:58] <hallyn> there are probably irc logs of our discussions about whether to change lxc-stop
[15:58] <hallyn> if i were smoser i coudl find them in a heartbeat
[16:00] <stgraber> hallyn: my IRC logs say March 18th on this channel
[16:00] <hallyn> i'm looking at mar 19 log right now :)
[16:01] <hallyn> ok, so basically we didn't want to change lxc-stop behavior without upstream's consent.
[16:01] <hallyn> (i'll reply)
[16:05] <hallyn> stgraber: GAH!
[16:06] <hallyn> if i make /var/lib/lxc MS_SHARED, then the kernel doesn't let me pivot_root under it :)
[16:06] <hallyn> This is goin gto turn out more complicated than i'd thought
[16:06] <stgraber> the kernel is being annoying... :)
[16:06] <hallyn> And I hate to bring it up on lxc-devel right now, bc people are already in argue mode from other threads
[16:07] <hallyn> this means that the only choice, if we want a shared root, is to chroot
[16:07] <hallyn> uh, by shared i mean one we can maniuplate from the host
[16:07] <hallyn> hm, no, let me try ONE more thing
[16:10] <smoser> dannf, for your record, user-data does work
[16:10] <smoser> and:
[16:10] <smoser>   euca-run-instances --key brickies --instance-type=m1.large ami-aef328c7 --user-data-file=/tmp/my.ud
[16:10] <smoser> where '/tmp/my.ud' is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006618/
[16:11] <smoser> sets the mirror correctly and runs the 'runcmd'
[16:11] <dannf> smoser: cool! is there a ref doc for what i can do in user-data?
[16:12] <smoser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit
[16:12] <dannf> thx
[16:12] <smoser> hm..
[16:12] <smoser> dannf, what does security.ubuntu.com do for armhf?
[16:12] <smoser> er... where do security updates come from?
[16:13] <smoser> i guess they come from ports too.
[16:13] <smoser> thats broken in the userdata above (ie, 'apt-get update' will fail due to still trying to use security.ubuntu.com)
[16:13] <dannf> good question
[16:14] <smoser> you could use a boothook to edit template file (just write it straight away with what you want it to have)
[16:15] <smoser> or even a runcmd if you weren't trying to install packages via cloud-config.
[16:16] <dannf> oh, snazzy :)
[16:17] <stgraber> hallyn: I only just noticed http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=644473e9c60c1ff4f6351fed637a6e5551e3dce7 !
[16:17] <smoser> anyone who wants can look at dannf's handywork if they're interested
[16:17] <smoser> be nice, it will die in 40 minutes
[16:18] <hallyn> stgraber: man, if you get lxc-start to fail at the right time, you *really* pollute your mounts table
[16:18] <hallyn> i think start.c should probably try to clean up...  though that'snot a trivial matter
[16:19] <smoser> anyone interested can:
[16:19] <hallyn> ah yes.  we have part of user namespaces :)
[16:19] <smoser>   ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:19] <smoser> with password 'abcdefg'
[16:19] <smoser> but that instance will die at 17:00 UTC (41 minutes from now)
[16:19] <hallyn> smoser: permissiond enied (publickey)
[16:19] <stgraber> hallyn: hehe, I've got a fix-mount-table script I use when I'm working on arkose, basically a while loop iterating through /proc/mounts and unmounting everything until all entries are gone :)
[16:21] <hallyn> stgraber: gah.  yes.  we can't pivot_root into MS_SHARED dir.  what do you think about introducing a lxc.use_chroot option?
[16:21] <hallyn> maybe i should just bring it up on lxc-devel
[16:21] <smoser> hallyn, try again
[16:22] <stgraber> hallyn: is chroot "safe" now? and if it's, why still use pivot_root?
[16:22] <hallyn> stgraber: no.  but we have apparmor for that :)
[16:22] <smoser> it seems that if you enable empty passwords, rather than enabling password auth in openssh's config file, it doesnt actually enable password auth.
[16:22] <smoser> (whoops)
[16:22] <hallyn> though, i haven't tested that.  i probably should
[16:22] <hallyn> smoser: still hanging on motd :)
[16:22] <smoser> its not fast.
[16:23] <hallyn> nice.  highbank
[16:23] <smoser> you're runnign qemu-system-arm inside a ec2 m1.large
[16:41] <zul> hallyn: its uploaded
[16:49] <hallyn> zul: thanks
[16:59] <RobertLaptop> Anyone know of a ppa for jboss as 7.1?
[16:59] <hallyn> stgraber: when i chroot instead of pivot_root()ing, mountall is not happy.  tries to mount all the things you taught it not to mount
[16:59] <RobertLaptop> It looks like jboss as 4.2.3 is the only version included with ubuntu
[17:00] <stgraber> hallyn: can you dump /proc/mounts before mountall runs? something must be quite wrong in there for it to try and mount them all...
[17:01] <hallyn> stgraber: well here is mounts after mountall runs... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1006687/
[17:01] <stgraber> hallyn: I didn't put any container specific logic in there, I just taught it not to mount something that'd hide an existing mount (/dev being mounted when /dev/pts is already mounted for example)
[17:01] <hallyn> right, and chroot doesn't change the /proc contents.  so i guess that's a reason chroot does not suffice.  IIUC
[17:02] <stgraber> yeah... we'll have to stick with pivot_root then
[17:05] <zul> adam_g: im in the middle of collecting bug numbers for the openstack SRUs
[17:05] <adam_g> zul: cool. they should all be in the git commits, no?
[17:06] <zul> adam_g: well there is two that doesnt have a bug assoicated with them
[17:06] <zul> for nova at least
[17:06] <adam_g> SpamapS: which ones
[17:06] <adam_g> er
[17:06] <adam_g> ^
[17:06] <adam_g> SpamapS: around?
[17:07] <zul> adam_g: one is for generating a changelog for the git commits when you run sdist, and the other is make tests past on osx (???)
[17:14] <SpamapS> adam_g: I am, wassup?
[17:15] <ScottK> wassup is you're supposed to accept my SRU packages ....
[17:15] <ScottK> :-)
[17:15] <adam_g> ScottK++
[17:30] <hallyn> stgraber: which means that if we want to support shared mounts between host and container, we need to go back to the idea of a /shared
[17:30] <hallyn> I'm going to let that sit for a bit and get back to it on wed or thu
[17:34] <bustabust> CIFS mounting issue on Ubuntu server... I have a drobo NAS with a share called central. I can 'smbclient -L drobo-primary' and see the share called central. However when I run the command 'sudo mount -t cifs -o username=bustabust,password=mypass //<IP_ADDRESS>/central /mnt/drobo' error says Unable to find suitable address. Any ideas? I've googled the heck out of this thing
[17:37] <hallyn> zul: drat, I should have warned you.  The debdiff for 0.9.8-2ubuntu19 got lost in the 0.9.12 upload
[17:38] <zul> doh...link?
[17:38] <zul> ill upload ubuntu2 this weekend
[17:41] <hallyn> zul: it was the patch attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1001625
[17:41] <hallyn> (or just dget dget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/libvirt/0.9.8-2ubuntu19/+files/libvirt_0.9.8-2ubuntu19.dsc)
[17:42] <zul> hallyn: thanks ill get that one in
[17:42] <hallyn> zul: thanks.  (my fault)
[17:42] <zul> im guessing any SRUs as well
[17:47] <hallyn> zul: ?
[17:47] <hallyn> what do you mean, you're guessing sur's?
[17:47] <zul> hallyn: is there an SRU for libvirt in precise or am i halucinating
[17:48] <hallyn> this bug needs to be SRU'd for it yes.  i haven't done that yet
[17:50] <carroarmato0> Hello, I'm trying out MAAS with LXC. I've gotten to the point where Maas is fully installed in a container, but after adding a node, it says that it's "Commissioning", and stays that way. Any help?
[17:55] <adam_g> zul: i need to run out but ill look through and confirm that bug list when im bcak. we should try to script something that generates that for us at point
[17:55] <zul> adam_g: yeah im working on a script now :)
[17:56] <adam_g> zul: im sure whatever scripts they have to parse that stuff out of gerrit proposals is available somewhere in the openstack-ci repo
[17:56] <adam_g> back in a while
[18:39] <rcsheets> how does one report spam in a comment on launchpad?
[19:14] <dannf> smoser: do you have a cloud-init patch for switching the default apt server, or should i just do a sed hack?
[19:15] <dannf> ... or should i actually help out and send you a patch taht fixes the bug :)
[19:21] <smoser> dannf, there is no pathc in lcoud-init (you're welcome/encouraged to fix upstream to chose better)
[19:21] <smoser> the cloud-config is actually a supported path (for internal mirrors or othe rmirro)
[19:23] <smoser> but the security. was not thought about.
[19:23] <smoser> (the fact that security.ubuntu.com is not used for ports).
[19:52] <ahasenack> hi, this ec2 image ami-5c892f35 in us-east-1 doesn't work
[19:52] <ahasenack> it's quantal
[19:52] <ahasenack> here is console output:
[19:52] <ahasenack> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1007018/
[19:53] <ahasenack> I got that id from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/quantal/current/
[20:01] <hujifalak> hello, iam learning to work with linux . can someone pls provide me ssh access to some server ?
[20:03] <streulma> hello
[20:03] <streulma> is it possible to set a hostname without rebooting the server ?
[20:04] <guntbert> hujifalak: search for "free ssh" - there are still several available
[20:05] <StevenR_> hujifalak: install your own virtual machine?
[20:05] <erichammond> hujifalak: Amazon AWS/EC2 has a free tier that you can use to run and experiment with Linux: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing
[20:08] <hujifalak> erichammond i wanted to try it but it requires credit card information even when they are not charging anything ?
[20:10] <erichammond> hujifalak: correct.  If you use resources that are not covered by the free tier, you will be charged for them.
[20:29] <gary_poster> stgraber, hi.  I'm updating bug 994752's description per your request.  In preparation for that, I was looking at the quantal packaging branch, and noticed you took out lxc-ip in favor of an in-line function within lxc-start-ephemeral.  lxc-ip is actually quite nice to have for other reasons as well.  Is there a way we could advocate for getting it added back?  Or is getting it upstream our only chance?
[20:30] <stgraber> gary_poster: no :)
[20:30] <gary_poster> stgraber, <snort> which one
[20:30] <stgraber> the new lxc-attach will support attaching to only the network namespace if you want
[20:31] <stgraber> and the API will have a call to get all the container's IPs that will likely be added to lxc-info
[20:31] <gary_poster> stgraber, in bash?
[20:31] <stgraber> so there was no good reason to keep lxc-ip in 12.10 just to replace it in a few months (and backward compatibility being a pain, it was easier to get it out before anyone noticed :))
[20:31] <gary_poster> heh
[20:31] <gary_poster> if lxc-info then C
[20:32]  * gary_poster wants more Python and less bash
[20:32] <stgraber> right, we have patches on lxc-devel now that let you do "lxc-attach -s NET -n container -- ip -4 addr", we're also working on API design now and I'm trying to get a get_ips() call in there that lxc-info can use
[20:32] <stgraber> for 12.10 I'll also be providing a python binding for the new API
[20:33] <stgraber> so after these are done, there really shouldn't be any need for lxc-ip :)
[20:33] <streulma> we use Virtualbox on servers :)
[20:34] <streulma> how long can we stay at 10.04 LTS ?
[20:34] <gary_poster> stgraberm, sounds great (though a mild shame we went to the trouble for naught).  The one thought I have for lxc-info's IP stuff is that it would be nice if it had a "just get the IP and you don't have to use sed/awk to parse the output" option.  The sed/awk stuff always feels pretty fragile to me
[20:35] <stgraber> gary_poster: sure, that's why I want to get the IP list in the C API so we can have it returned by lxc-info and from the python module
[20:36] <stgraber> gary_poster: so you should be able to do:
[20:36] <stgraber> import lxc
[20:37] <stgraber> mycontainer=lxc.Container("mycontainer")
[20:37] <stgraber> mycontainer.get_ips()[0]
[20:37] <nathwill> stgraber, that sounds awesome :)
[20:38] <gary_poster> stgraber, that's great!
[20:39] <gary_poster> stgraber, one other only mildly related thought: in lxc-start-ephemeral when we start up 32 instances of these (and we do, with 24 planned for production) the timeout gets out to 2.5 minutes before we can actually connect.  Is there a chance we could squeeze in a configurable timeout for bug 994752 also?
[20:39] <gary_poster> 2.5 minutes before we can connect to all of them, I should say
[20:41] <gary_poster> essentially, make TRIES something you can pass in
[20:43] <stgraber> gary_poster: I have no problem adding a parameter for that in quantal, though that's technically a new feature so I'm not sure we can really SRU that back to precise
[20:44] <stgraber> gary_poster: isn't there a magic command that lets you run a given command when your load average is below a given threshold? I think you could use that to fix your problem (assuming it takes that long because of all the containers starting at the same time)
[20:45] <gary_poster> stgraber, we need it to truly address that bug, is the issue.  Alternatively, we can simply bump TRIES to something gigantic...hm, that sounds interesting, lemme search for it
[20:46] <gary_poster> niceload is close but no cigar...
[20:48] <gary_poster> and also it is not available in ubuntu afaict
[20:52] <stgraber> gary_poster: parallel -l 1 -- "echo 1" "echo 2"
[20:54] <gary_poster> stgraber, nice, thank you.  We'll play with it.
[21:01] <gary_poster> stgraber, there are still some problems with that.  I'll mention them in the bug description and we can go from there.
[21:01] <gary_poster> thank you again
[21:22] <hallyn> smoser: if i do ec2-run-instances -f userdata.sh -n 3 ami-whatever, is [0-2] or [1-3] passed to the userdata scripts by chance?
[21:24] <erichammond> hallyn: You will want to query the ami-launch-index from the user-data script.
[21:24] <hallyn> just echo $ami-launch-index?
[21:24] <erichammond> hallyn: It'ts available from the instance at: http://instance-data/latest/meta-data/ami-launch-index
[21:25] <erichammond> or using a tool that queries that for you.
[21:25] <erichammond> starts at "0"
[21:25] <hallyn> erichammond: awesome, thanks
[21:28] <koolhead17> adam_g, is there a document around quantum which can help me deploying it on precise
[21:31] <adam_g> koolhead17: not that im aware of
[21:32] <koolhead17> adam_g, any plan to have it in future :P
[21:33] <adam_g> koolhead17: probably at some point. i hope to take my first dive into quantum next week or so
[21:33] <koolhead17> that be great
[21:36] <koolhead17> zul, do we have quantum pkg ready for test
[21:36] <koolhead17> on Q
[21:54] <zul> koolhead17: no
[21:55] <koolhead17> zul, i can use it for precise/essex for now
[22:45] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here ever played around with NUT for UPS monitoring? I'm curious as to what kind of netserver/netclient master/slave setup I should be doing to insure that my infrastructure network shuts down decently and cleanly the case of a long-term power outage. I just finished a diagram.ly chart to show everything. ;)
[22:46]  * jmedina wonders what a diagram.ly is...
[22:46] <Psi-Jack> Website to generate diagrams. ;)
[22:47] <Psi-Jack> http://i.imgur.com/Jw3Ki.png
[22:47] <Psi-Jack> Like so.
[22:47] <jmedina> :O
[22:47] <jmedina> wow, looks good that site, thanks for sharing
[22:47] <Psi-Jack> No problem. :)
[22:48] <Psi-Jack> You can't directly share full diagrams you've made, but you can export/import XML files of diagrams made with it.
[22:48] <jmedina> reminds me dia
[22:48] <Psi-Jack> Other websites can do it, but you usually have to pay for that service.
[22:48] <jmedina> do you know if works with libreoffice draw files?
[22:48] <Psi-Jack> Not sure..
[22:49] <Psi-Jack> Doubtful.
[22:49] <Psi-Jack> I believe the clipart images used on this are actually kinda ripped from Microsoft Visio
[22:54] <Psi-Jack> Guess you don't use NUT though do ya? heh
[23:04] <jmedina> Psi I juse NUT in single desktops and servers
[23:05] <Psi-Jack> heh
[23:05] <Psi-Jack> Nothing like my little infrastructure, eh?
[23:05] <jmedina> I dont have a infrastructure like yours, I just courius because can help in future
[23:08] <Psi-Jack> I'm thinking I should basically hook up Hyp1-4 as slave to Stor1, and continue to also have Hyp3 slave to Hyp1, and Hyp4 slave to Hyp2.
[23:09] <Psi-Jack> Hyp1, Hyp2, and Stor1 all being directly connected to each their own APC UPS, being in master mode themselves.
[23:14] <Psi-Jack> Effectively, according to the docs, which would make Hyp1-4 shut down well before the Stor1 server they need, and with Stor1's delay to self shutdown be long enough to sustain the slaves as they shut down... It's tricky. ;)
[23:19] <jmedina> looks like that, for the names I guess it is a virtual infrastructure
[23:20] <jmedina> virtualized


[11:10] <_Indy_> nomis_: how do I install the .deb file?
[11:10] <dallgood> Can anyone help me with a mousebind problem here?  I'm using the xorg's evdev driver for my mouse, but it maps my middle mouse button to "button 2" and my right mouse button to "button 3".  This would be fine except I'm using XGL and compiz doesn't seem to bind keys correctly when these two buttons are reversed.
[11:10] <_Indy_> dpkg -i sth.deb
[11:10] <_Indy_> ?
[11:10] <GlassCasket> help: I don't follow. You want /home on hd1?
[11:10] <LostPassword> tritium, darn dont know...
[11:10] <nomis_> _Indy_, just dobble click ;)
[11:10] <_Indy_> :P
[11:10] <GuardianAtomos> matthew_w, then access your machine from another computer using your global IP address.
[11:10] <dyn-afk> matthew_w find out what the ip-address of the box with vnc is
[11:10] <nomis_> _Indy_, yes, thats the same
[11:11] <help> i want to unmount it and it is saying it is busy
[11:11] <dyn-afk> use that instead of localhost.localdomain:0
[11:11] <tritium> LostPassword: when your machine is booting, hit Esc to get to the grub menu, perhaps
[11:11] <LostPassword> tritium, cool thx
[11:11] <nomis_> _Indy_, if you use dapper, you should be able to install it by just double click
[11:11] <dyn-afk> just hit alt-F2 and then type vncviewer ip-address-of-vnc-machine
[11:11] <GuardianAtomos> matthew_w, yup. www.whatismyip.com is a quick way. Something like <IP_ADDRESS>:0 in a vncviewer client should then work.
[11:11] <epimer> hi guys
[11:11] <dyn-afk> ola epimer
[11:11] <matthew_w> GuardianAtomos:  I'll try it
[11:11] <GlassCasket> Flannel: Instead of trying that and having me risk not being able to. Could I simply download the package, put it n my USB drive?
[11:12] <epimer> is there a way to install gaim 2.0 beta 3 that doesn't involve getting libraries from debian unstable repos?
[11:12] <matthew_w> It just hangs
[11:12] <dyn-afk> yes epimer: compile it :)
[11:12] <recon0> Is there any way to keep a program running after I close it's prompt?
[11:12] <matthew_w> GuardianAtomos: It just hangs for some reason
[11:12] <tritium> recon0: run it in a screen session
[11:12] <dyn-afk> recon0 you can run programs in the background when you put & behind the command
[11:13] <GuardianAtomos> matthew_w, you forwarded port 5900 to the machine running the vncserver? Then you tried to use vncviewer from another machine to connect to your IP address?
[11:13] <dyn-afk> however, they stay in the background until they're done
[11:13] <GuardianAtomos> And it still failed?
[11:13] <epimer> dyn-afk, tried - but a bit of a noob. the ./configure step worked fine, but the make stage failed
[11:13] <recon0> tritium:..?
[11:13] <nomis_> epimer, isn't there a autopackage for gaim2 ?
[11:13] <jrib> recon0: also you can disown it or run it using nohup, I think screen is the best option though
[11:13] <epimer> nomis_, is there? i only saw .rpms and .tar.gz
[11:13] <recon0> screen...session...?
[11:14] <GlassCasket> Ubuntu 6.06 is Dapper, right?
[11:14] <dyn-afk> yep
[11:14] <dyn-afk> dapper drake
[11:14] <GlassCasket> Thanks
[11:14] <recon0> jrib: tritium: screen...session...? Haven't heard of the term.
[11:14] <dyn-afk> screen is very useful
[11:14] <nomis_> epimer, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gaim/gaim-2.0.0beta3.x86.package?download
[11:14] <jrib> !screen
[11:14] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:14] <dyn-afk> you can detach the screen so it runs in the background
[11:14] <tritium> recon0: ^^
[11:15] <dyn-afk> after which you can reattach it
[11:15] <dyn-afk> very useful when doing some stuff on a remote server
[11:15] <nomis_> epimer, just execute this file
[11:15] <recon0> ok.
[11:16] <askyle> how can i get rid of gnome-screensaver (in a system-wide manner, without having to set it up by hand for every user in the machine)?
[11:16] <epimer> nomis_, ty
[11:16] <nomis_> welcome
[11:16] <GlassCasket> If I don't have build-essential installed, I'll still be ablt to do dpkg -i *.deb, right?
[11:16] <mamatoshi> hi all
[11:16] <nomis_> GlassCasket, yes
[11:16] <cmt> anyone here familiar with setting up Xgl?
[11:16] <GlassCasket> Thanks
[11:16] <andriijas> if im on the livecd, is it possible to expandthe unionfs mounted on /  with a SD-card ?
[11:17] <tritium> GlassCasket: yes, no relation between the two operations
[11:17] <Qwell> okay, that's just strange.  I finally see the raid option if I create a small partition at the start of each disk
[11:17] <epimer> nomis_, double-click tries to open it in gedit
[11:18] <protocol1> how do I check my kernel version from the console?
[11:18] <cmt> protocol2: uname -r
[11:18] <Qwell> protocol1: uname -r
[11:18] <nomis_> epimer, you have to set 'execute' permission to the file
[11:18] <epimer> okiaro, ty
[11:18] <epimer> ..
[11:18] <epimer> that was supposed to be "ok"
[11:19] <cmt> anyone here familiar with setting up Xgl?
[11:19] <nomis_> epimer, if you want to do that in a terminal type: chmod +x filename  then ./filename
[11:20] <naosv> cmt checkout http://flavor8.com/index.php/2006/06/02/how-to-compizxgl-on-kubuntu-dapper-nvidia/
[11:20] <dngldoof> are the servers back online?
[11:20] <dyn-afk> yup
[11:21] <dngldoof> nice!
[11:21] <dyn-afk> :P
[11:22] <m3talc0re> anyone kickin'?
[11:22] <dngldoof> ahh, finally I get to install Spiral Synth
[11:22] <imlost> alright neither of my 2 users have administrative options.. anyone know how to change that?
[11:22] <dngldoof> sudo su?
[11:22] <m3talc0re> i just installed Ubuntu 6.06 and X server fails, anyone have any ideas? i wrote down the errors
[11:23] <mariux> i want to add ubuntu to my lilo.conf here, which file in /boot should i put in the image path?
[11:23] <mnp> hello?
[11:23] <dngldoof> imlost: are you using terminal?
[11:23] <mariux> it doesnt have a bzimage like my gentoo
[11:24] <cmt> naosv:  have you ever had an error "BadLength (poly reqest too large or internal Xlib length error)
[11:24] <Dave2> mariux, it's vmlinuz
[11:24] <protocol1> whats the latest kernel?
[11:24] <mnp> does anyone have any familiarity with Lyx? i'm just starting to use it and wanted to get a  bibliography/works cited together for a paper i am writing
[11:24] <protocol1> for ubuntu dapper?
[11:24] <imlost> dngldoof, no i go to system>administration and only have like 4 options
[11:24] <ayeee> Can somebody tell me a msn client that supports webcaming?
[11:24] <ayeee> amsn?
[11:24] <rsk> amsn yep
[11:24] <ayeee> thanks
[11:24] <cmt> ayeee: yes its installed with automatix
[11:24] <mamatoshi> mnp :: i used lyx a while,
[11:24] <mnp> protocol1:  i think it .16
[11:24] <ayeee> cmt: i just want to see.
[11:24] <m3talc0re> good question ayeee, i'll remember that app if i can manage to get x server to work :/
[11:25] <mnp> mamatoshi: im looking for a bibliography compiler. i heard about bibtex -- but i need something super friendly since this is my first time
[11:25] <protocol1> mnp, I was talking about the version for ubuntu dapper
[11:25] <m3talc0re> (EE) I810(0): Cannot read V_BIOS
[11:25] <mnp> protocol1:  oh, let me see
[11:25] <naosv> cmt. nope and i dont run xgl anymore m8. Im just a noob and it was the best guide I found that worked for me 8)
[11:26] <m3talc0re> VBE initialization failed.
[11:26] <m3talc0re> Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[11:26] <cmt> naosv: why did you stop?  problems?
[11:26] <imlost> anyone know how to make a new user with administrative privligaes using terminal
[11:26] <m3talc0re> Fatal server error: no screens found
[11:26] <keith___> wats the package that has all the dev tools i need to compile some thing
[11:26] <jrib> !compile > keith___
[11:26] <m3talc0re> anyone?
[11:26] <mnp> !compile > mnp
[11:27] <mamatoshi> mnp :: i haven't tried this yet, but I suppose you can use tkbibtex to build one
[11:27] <sola6662> yo i need help i upgraded to 6.06LTS and i cant open gdmsetup
[11:27] <mnp> !topic
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:27] <imlost> anyone know how to create a new administrator user using terminal
[11:28] <mnp> are the servers still down?
[11:28] <jrib> imlost: did you do an expert install?
[11:28] <minerale> they are up, mnp
[11:28] <naosv> cmt: Xgl will be awesome when its had some more time and lurve
[11:28] <mnp> minerale: great!
[11:28] <help> how do i get owner ship pf a drive  /dev/hda1/  /home/
[11:28] <m3talc0re> does anyone have any idea?
[11:29] <mamatoshi> !tkbibtex
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about tkbibtex - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:29] <mamatoshi> !info tkbibtex
[11:29] <help> how do i get owner ship pf a drive  /dev/hda1/  /home/
[11:29] <ubotu> tkbibtex: Tcl/TK editor and browser for BibTeX files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 10-5 (dapper), package size 25 kB, installed size 128 kB
[11:29] <jrib> help: you use chown
[11:29] <imlost> this sucks neither of my users are administrators... so i cant do anything
[11:29] <jrib> help: but why do you want to own /home?
[11:29] <help> i do not understand
[11:29] <m3talc0re> found something on the ubuntu forums i'm going to try
[11:30] <jrib> imlost: did you see my question?
[11:30] <jcouture> the canadian archive is still down :(
[11:30] <dyn-afk> imlost you have to edit your /etc/group file
[11:30] <help> i mounted a hard there
[11:30] <dyn-afk> use the live cd for that
[11:30] <mamatoshi> imlost :: you can not do sudo command?
[11:30] <imlost> jrib, o sorry i didnt
[11:30] <ucordes> how can i find out wether my usb stick is working or not?
[11:30] <help> and i am trying to get it to unmount and it wont
[11:30] <ucordes> dvb-t
[11:30] <imlost> dyn-afk, how?
[11:30] <mnp> protocol1:  i think 2.6.15-26-386 is the lastest ive got
[11:30] <dyn-afk> boot into the livecd
[11:31] <dyn-afk> mount the / partition of the ubuntu install on your harddrive
[11:31] <jrib> help: you mounted a new drive over your existing /home?
[11:31] <help> yeah
[11:31] <dyn-afk> then edit it with the root account of the livecd
[11:31] <khoda> Paladine you back?
[11:31] <help> i messed up
[11:31] <dyn-afk> so use sudo gedit /etc/group
[11:31] <mnp> im having trouble downloading the libqt3-mt-dev package
[11:31] <Grue_Lovah> action waves and smiles
[11:31] <mnp> anyone can hlpe me with that?
[11:31] <jrib> help: I would just reboot
[11:31] <dyn-afk> or well, if you mount the / into /mnt it will be sudo gedit /mnt/etc/group
[11:31] <LjL> mnp: not if you don't tell us what *kind* of trouble, 'cause "trouble" alone isn't too informative ;)
[11:31] <help> i did samething over and over again
[11:32] <khoda> i just downloaded nvidia-glx, then i tried to run nvidia-xconfig and it says "ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/x11' anyone know whats up
[11:32] <prophet> need some help with getting steam to run on wine
[11:32] <LjL> khoda: possibly you have to run that as root
[11:32] <dyn-afk> put one username into the root group or something like that
[11:32] <khoda> LjL: ah it worked
[11:32] <dyn-afk> I once managed to screw up mij /etc/group file and lost all ability of using sudo :P
[11:32] <Bonez56> woot
[11:32] <mnp> LjL: yeah, sorry about that, The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu3) but 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[11:33] <khoda> How do I get into gnome from command
[11:33] <dyn-afk> I don't know what you have to edit exactly, I just compared my /etc/group to that of another machine
[11:33] <help> jrip: any idea
[11:33] <jrib> imlost: you can use the live cd or choose recovery mode from the grub menu.  You want to add a user to the 'admin' group, if you use recovery mode you can just do 'sudo adduser user_name admin' (this will not work if you did an expert install)
[11:33] <LjL> mnp: try a "sudo apt-get update", and then try again
[11:33] <minerale> can someone help me understand how usermaks correlate to permissions? i'm trying to mount an ntfs volume in such a way that I can read it without being root
[11:33] <dyn-afk> he left jrib :(
[11:33] <khoda> how do i get to the desktop when im in console
[11:33] <mnp> LjL; same thing
[11:33] <Bakemono> hi
[11:33] <valehru> Anyone have any idea why dosbox tells me that "This program must be run under Win32"
[11:33] <valehru> ??
[11:33] <Grue_Lovah> I need some help compiling Tiny Fugue, a MUD client for linux.  I ./configure, and I get a message "can't find gcc or cc".
[11:33] <prophet> does anyone use Steam? or has been able to install it
[11:34] <ucordes> can anybody tell me where i can get help on cedega issues?
[11:34] <keith___> wats the package that has all the dev tools i need to compile some thing
[11:34] <keith___> make gcc etc
[11:34] <jrib> dyn-afk: hmm he'll probably see admin, and use that
[11:34] <khoda> how do i get to the desktop when im in console
[11:34] <valehru> Grue_Lovah, Yeah through wineX
[11:34] <jrib> help: what do you mean you did the same thing?  What thing did you do?
[11:34] <dyn-afk> jup jrib
[11:34] <mamatoshi> Grue_Lovah :: you can install build-essential package
[11:34] <prophet> cd ~/home/[user] /Desktop[
[11:34] <micah_> How does one save their session when loging out in dapper?
[11:34] <khoda> prophet: i mean how to do i get into gnome
[11:34] <LjL> mnp: do you have any non-standard repositories enabled?
[11:34] <Grue_Lovah> doesn't ubuntu come with gcc?
[11:35] <LjL> Grue_Lovah: no
[11:35] <mnp> LjL; im trying to compile kernel 2.6.16 so resolved some trouble with my ASUS notebook -- i found someone who has the notebook and runs debian. he said 2.6.16 fixed everything
[11:35] <mamatoshi> micah_ :: check the save session in gnome-session-properties
[11:35] <mnp> LjL; i dont know what a non-standard repository is
[11:35] <prophet> places>desktop
[11:35] <khoda> prophet: i'm in console
[11:35] <LjL> mnp: hm, ok, so you took some packages from debian?
[11:35] <dyn-afk> mnp, what asus notebook doe you have?
[11:35] <khoda> prophet: whats the command
[11:35] <jrib> !compile > Grue_Lovah
[11:35] <mamatoshi> khoda :: cd ~/Desktop
[11:35] <mnp> s1300n
[11:35] <prophet> yeah or that
[11:35] <dyn-afk> ah
[11:35] <minerale> hi, how can I find the userID for myself or other users in a ubuntu installation ?
[11:35] <prophet> "~/" means your home dir
[11:36] <dyn-afk> mind the capitol D of Desktop btw :)
[11:36] <khoda> No, I mean I want to get into the graphic environment from the text environment
[11:36] <jrib> minerale: the 'id' command
[11:36] <help>  i try to unmount it and it say umount: /home: device is busy umount
[11:36] <mnp> dyn-afk: asus s1300n
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> !info easyubuntu
[11:36] <ubotu> Package easyubuntu does not exist in dapper
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> !info automatix
[11:36] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in dapper
[11:36] <dyn-afk> nice mnp
[11:36] <mariux> i am trying to boot my kubuntu using lilo, kubuntu is installed on /dev/sda3, but when i try to boot it using "image = /mnt/ubuntu/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 \nroot = /dev/sda3" i get a kernel panic saying it cant find sda3
[11:36] <prophet> can anyone help me with getting steam to work on here/
[11:36] <mamatoshi> khoda :: use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:36] <Tommy2k4> !easyubuntu
[11:36] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:36] <mnp> LjL: dont know what you mean.
[11:36] <mnp> dyn-afk: you run this notebook?
[11:36] <khoda> mamatoshi: not found
[11:36] <LjL> mnp: ok, please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[11:37] <Lord_Athur> hi all, when will be reased the next ubuntu version?
[11:37] <dyn-afk> no, I have a M6Ne
[11:37] <mamatoshi> khoda :: can you give the error message
[11:37] <jrib> Lord_Athur: october
[11:37] <SlyFly> how are spaces (%20) expressed in the terminal?
[11:37] <jrib> !edgy > Lord_Athur
[11:37] <b_> can someone help m e with nepenthes
[11:37] <dngldoof> what does this mean: I copied a couple of 'huge' folders from my user folder to another hard disk. Now terminal claims that 'file doesn't exist' and ls shows the folders in red
[11:37] <khoda> mamatoshi: "sudo: /etc/inti.d/gdm: command not found"
[11:37] <dyn-afk> but my asus notebook runs just beautifully with ubuntu 6.06
[11:37] <nomasteryoda> SlyFly,  as "\ "
[11:38] <dyn-afk> I think ubuntu 6.06 is the best linux os for notebooks
[11:38] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[11:38] <spades> SlyFly use \ to escape and put a space, ie: file\ 01\ 04.tar.gz
[11:38] <nosklo> khoda, try "init" instad of inti
[11:38] <mnp> dyn-afk: im having IRQ trouble and my sound card wont work. i have disable acpii in the boot
[11:38] <prophet> this is hard stuff
[11:38] <micah_> how do I do that?
[11:38] <nosklo> khoda, it was a typo
[11:38] <jrib> help: but when you reboot, everything should be back to normal.  Unless you edited fstab, did you do that?
[11:38] <mamatoshi> khoda :: yup, it is init.d
[11:38] <SlyFly> nomas, I am trying to access my Windows partition using Wine, so I don't think I can use the backslash.  I believe I should use front splash
[11:38] <prophet> Tonus?
[11:38] <mnp> LjL: how do i view the  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <help> no
[11:38] <Zambezi> How do I quit "man application" Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C Ctrl+Q doesn't work.
[11:38] <mamatoshi> mnp :: you can use the text editor
[11:38] <help> how should i edit it
[11:38] <spades> Zambezi just q
[11:39] <LjL> mnp: type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" into a shell, then select all, copy, and paste into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:39] <khoda> mamatoshi: now it said "starting nome display manager... [ok ]
[11:39] <jrib> help: try to prepend my nick to your responds, otherwise I might miss them
[11:39] <Tommy2k4> !automatix
[11:39] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[11:39] <khoda> mamatoshi: i'm still in textmode though
[11:39] <LjL> mnp: or make that "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" if you're with KDE
[11:39] <help> jrib/ of
[11:39] <dyn-afk> http://tuxmobil.org/asus_s1300n.html << have you seen that link mnp ?
[11:39] <Zambezi> spades, Thanks.
[11:39] <help> i forgot how to us irc
[11:39] <jrib> help: you shouldn't edit it, right now you are trying to unmount the partition you mounted to /home right?  If that's the case, just reboot
[11:39] <mamatoshi> khoda :: press Ctrl + Alt + f7
[11:39] <nny> is it kosher to discuss dapper here now?
[11:39] <magic_> Slyfly: why are you using wine to access your windows partition?
[11:39] <help> its dose nothing i tryed
[11:39] <mnp> dyn-afk: yeah, i talked to Lorenzo; he's one of the authors. he sent me his .config file and he told me to compile 2.6.16 and drop his .config in there
[11:40] <prophet> anyone use Steam>
[11:40] <help> it will not even let me unmount
[11:40] <dyn-afk> ah
[11:40] <khoda> mamatoshi: dammit, i just installed the nvidia drivers, but the logo is still messed up and it still hangs before it gets to the desktop. any idea whats wrong?
[11:40] <dyn-afk> well it says that you have to enable acpi for sound to work
[11:40] <SlyFly> magic, I am just starting a program (realplayer) through wine...instead of installing it in Ubuntu...isn't that possible...direct wine to the windows location?
[11:40] <dyn-afk> but pc's/laptops and proper acpi don't go well
[11:40] <jrib> help: after you reboot the drive won't be mounted anymore
[11:40] <mamatoshi> khoda :: do this in the terminal "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:40] <dyn-afk> they're like non-existant
[11:40] <help> it will not let me unmout it
[11:40] <LjL> SlyFly: you do know there is a realplayer for ubuntu?
[11:40] <khoda> mamatoshi: okay, gotta reboot. will try
[11:41] <dyn-afk> realplayer 10 for ubuntu
[11:41] <dyn-afk> but you have to enable univers/multiverse
[11:41] <dyn-afk> runs very nice
[11:41] <SlyFly> LjL, I know there is a RealPLayer for Ubuntu, but not the version I am looking for
[11:41] <nny> i am working with a nvidia based laptop,... get black screen/ etc. when opening ctrl-alt f* or trying to hibernate and restart.. assume something with framebuffer or conflict between repo nvidia driver and Xorg 7, can anyone help further?
[11:41] <mamatoshi> khoda :: don't forget to choose the nvidia driver
[11:41] <jrib> help: yes, that is why I am suggesting you reboot.  rebooting should unmount it for you
[11:41] <mnp> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18728
[11:41] <khoda> mamatoshi: i just installed nvidia-glx
[11:41] <help> no
[11:41] <khoda> mamatoshi: and then i ran nvidida-xconfig
[11:41] <micah_> where is the gnome-session-properties
[11:41] <ucordes> i can't receive any dcc sends in xChat. allways get timeout- what can be wrong?
[11:42] <mnp> dyn-afk: i know that i need acpi on, but if i enable it, the system freezes at start up at the line: "unpacking linux, ok. booting the kernel"
[11:42] <khoda> mamatoshi: oh wait, desktop works now! had to reboot. doh!
[11:42] <jrib> help: no?  Did you reboot and it didn't work?
[11:42] <mamatoshi> khoda :: good to hear that
[11:42] <nny> hmm anyone?
[11:42] <help> yep
[11:42] <khoda> mamatoshi: what's the best IRC client for ubuntu?
[11:42] <magic_> SlyFly: it is, but it's just as easy to download realplayer for linux and use it that way....as for wine, one way is to 'cd' to the directory that realplayer is in and then issue: wine realplayer_name_of_version
[11:42] <khoda> mamatoshi: is it better to use it in a terminal?
[11:43] <SlyFly> Magic, that is a good idea...doing "CD"
[11:43] <mnp> khoda: i like xchat-gnome
[11:43] <SlyFly> Magic, I'll try that
[11:43] <LjL> SlyFly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods  <-- are you sure realplayer 10 is not what you're looking for?
[11:43] <valehru> khaoohs, xchat
[11:43] <jrib> help: ok can you post on pastebin the output from this command: mount && cat /etc/fstab
[11:43] <khoda> mnp: where should i get that
[11:43] <SlyFly> LjL, Linux's RealPlayer version is behind Windows' RealPlayer
[11:43] <mnp> khoda: use the package installer, open it up and type IRC in the search
[11:43] <mamatoshi> khoda :: i use the x-chat
[11:43] <mnp> khoda: u can also use gaim, but  i like the features in xchat better
[11:43] <help> what lost me there
[11:43] <khoda> mnp: i'm very new to linux. where is the package installer
[11:43] <mamatoshi> i just new in the irc
[11:43] <Paladine> holy cow my cpu has been at 100% for like 40 minutes thanks to plasma screensaver
[11:44] <Paladine> pl khoda you get everything up and running?
[11:44] <mnp> click on applications, scroll to the bottom > "add/remove"
[11:44] <Paladine> ok even
[11:44] <mamatoshi> khoda :: go to the application menu, then choose add-remove program
[11:44] <help> what happends it i take it out fom fstab
[11:44] <mnp> dyn-afk: any idea why that would happen?
[11:44] <SlyFly> I have a space in between file names, and the terminal can't work with that.  I don't know how to do a space in the terminal
[11:45] <khoda> Paladine: yeah, it works now. THnx :)
[11:45] <Grue_Lovah> thank you very much
[11:45] <Paladine> khoda you get nvidia working ok?
[11:45] <mnp> SlyFly: use the \ i think
[11:45] <Paladine> khoda cool
[11:45] <mnp> or type tab to have it auto complete the word
[11:45] <khoda> Paladine: now its time to find out why people like linux so much..
[11:45] <mnp> SlyFly: or type tab to have it auto complete the word
[11:45] <dyn-afk> because acpi implementations are not done properly mnp
[11:45] <SlyFly> MNP, the space is IN BETWEEN the file name.... as  in My Documents
[11:45] <magic_> SlyFly: also, you can run 'winefile' to see all files within the wine directories....run winecfg first to configure wine...click on the drives tab then click autodetect to make sure all directories are directly visible to wine
[11:45] <jrib> help: pastebin is a site where you can post large amounts of text, the url is paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Just put the command I gave you and then paste the output on pastebin.  After that, give us the URL for the post
[11:45] <rr72> hello, i was just wonderin what would cause a segment fault in kdm?
[11:45] <nny> is there a "not so noob ubuntu" channel?
[11:45] <Paladine> khoda well you should start with vmware server
[11:45] <mnp> dyn-afk: any idea how to fix that?
[11:45] <khoda> Paladine: whats that
[11:45] <Ackeubu_> Hey i tried to install e17 from" http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=1d282368304ed0beb05c559fbb1d1fc3&topic=554;prev_next=next " I had to uninstall e16 and now when i logg in to gnome or any other window manager, all the settings for windows, wireless and so on is removed. nothing works...
[11:45] <b33rnut1> Ok, I have a network question. After I used ndiswrapper with my network adapter, I cannot connect. It tells me that the drivers are working with the hardware, and when trying to set up the network, I get a "wlan0" option. I can even go in and set up my static IP and my WEP and everything, but it refuses to connect to the network. For comparison, I can get this adapter working in Windows (what I'm asking the question from, actually.) Any ideas?
[11:46] <dyn-afk> have you seen the part about acpi mnp ?
[11:46] <magic_> SlyFly: using the 'tab' key should do the trick for you
[11:46] <mnp> SlyFly: go to your terminal, start typing the file name, as in My Documents, and then hit the tab.
[11:46] <Paladine> khoda that way you caninstall windows in a virtual machine should you need it for anything you can't do in linux
[11:46] <mamatoshi> !vmware
[11:46] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[11:46] <nny> b33rnut1: is the wifi light on ?
[11:46] <khoda> Paladine: im dual booting with windows, dont need that i don tthink
[11:46] <mnp> SlyFly: or try hitting it twice to see what options you have to choose from.
[11:46] <dyn-afk> you need to download some acpi stuff and some corrected acpi configuration file
[11:46] <Paladine> khoda, k
[11:46] <mnp> dyn-afk: ill look again
[11:46] <mnp> dyn-afk: send the link once more?
[11:46] <VR_> !restricted
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <magic_> SlyFly: hit 'tab' key twice
[11:46] <khoda> Paladine: what other cool tools are there?
[11:46] <Paladine> khoda, well once you get into Xorg I will show you the goodness that is Xorg's future (XGL)
[11:47] <dyn-afk> here you go mnp : http://tuxmobil.org/asus_s1300n.html (check out the acpi part)
[11:47] <nny> b33rnut1: i have had to ifconfig up/down my broadcom and load the module in "not scanning mode" to get it to work, this was evident by a fast blinking light from the adapter vs. steady blinking
[11:47] <Ackeubu_> It seems as my gnome settings such as hotplug and everything is disabled, or disfunct! after uninstalling e16 and trying to install e17... =( i dont know what to do....
[11:47] <LjL> SlyFly: bah, i can't even find my way around the Real site... however, i wasn't aware there was a version of RealPlayer past version 10
[11:47] <b33rnut1> Hmm...I didn't look, actually. It seems to be working though because it detects all the networks in the neighborhood around me (like 10-15 of them.) including the one I'm trying to connet to.
[11:47] <SlyFly> Magic, that worked great...
[11:47] <khoda> Paladine: whats xorg
[11:47] <Paladine> khoda, best thing is to just use the system as you would use your normal desktop
[11:47] <dyn-afk> you need some tools and the DSDT file (the corrected acpi configuration)
[11:47] <Paladine> you should have openoffice installed for all your office document stuff
[11:47] <SlyFly> LJL, the Linux version is 10.0...the Windows version is 10.5...but there is a big difference
[11:47] <magic_> SlyFly: awesome!
[11:47] <nny> b33rnut1: yeah i had that issue, if you try an "iwconfig essid (your essid) mode managed key (if any)
[11:47] <Paladine> khoda Xorg is the desktop environment you are using at the moment
[11:47] <nny> b33rnut1: is this dappeR?
[11:47] <nosklo> khoda, linux has diversity, lots of people will tell you different things
[11:47] <khoda> Paladine: i thought it was gnome?
[11:48] <b33rnut1> nny: Dapper, yeah.
[11:48] <khoda> nosklo: i'm ready to hear them all :D
[11:48] <Paladine> khoda, gnome is a layer within Xorg
[11:48] <nny> b33rnut1: what does iwlist say?
[11:48] <khoda> Paladine: hmm
[11:48] <b33rnut1> nny: I can go check real quick, I'll ahve to restart into Ubuntu
[11:48] <nny> (guess it would say "networks found: blah) if you see them in network neighboorhood..
[11:48] <khoda`> test from linux
[11:48] <khoda`> wewt
[11:48] <LjL> mnp: does that file actually start with "madeb"?
[11:48] <SlyFly> Thanks again to MNP, Magic, and LJL!
[11:48] <nny> oh so not working in windows either?
[11:48] <nosklo> khoda, Xorg is a graphical server, graphical applications are clients to it. gnome is a group of Xorg client applications that compose your desktop
[11:48] <nny> (i should read your q again)
[11:48] <askyle> i thought Xorg was the X server, and gnome ran _on top_ of it?
[11:48] <Paladine> khoda you have xorg (the desktop server) gnome (Xorg environment) and Metacity (Window Manager)
[11:49] <b33rnut1> It's working in Windows
[11:49] <nosklo> khoda, but this information is not useful now
[11:49] <imme-emosol> (process:5455): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_hash_table_lookup: assertion `hash_table != NULL' failed
[11:49] <b33rnut1> Yeah, I guess I don't follow
[11:49] <askyle> (like nosklo said)
[11:49] <imme-emosol> gdm start error
[11:49] <mnp> LjL: let me check
[11:49] <imme-emosol> anyone an idea?
[11:49] <khoda> nosklo: knowledge is useful to me always :)
[11:49] <b33rnut1> I'm using it right now on my Windows partition
[11:49] <mnp> dyn-afk: i rember trying to following the instructions for the acpi for asus stuff but its way over my head and i was told i had to reconfigure the kernel
[11:49] <khoda> Paladine: so some people prefer other xorg environments to gnome?
[11:49] <nosklo> khoda, great... then the best you do is read a lot... almost everything is well documented
[11:49] <Paladine> khoda think of say a Stew (as in food) a Stew is a basic meal consisting of vegetables and someteimes meat
[11:50] <dyn-afk> I think that's part of that acpi thingy mnp
[11:50] <khoda> nosklo: can you point me in the right direction for documentation (for a beginner)
[11:50] <Paladine> but the ingredients in stew are different all over the world
[11:50] <nny> b33rnut1: my experience: iwconfig is your best bet, if it says "mac address: 000000" or such, than it is not truly connected... i wonder what card you have
[11:50] <LjL> khoda: ... yeah. ever heard of KDE? ;)
[11:50] <pppoe_dude> whats a format for web animations sorta like gif but open source?
[11:50] <dyn-afk> never tried it though (and never had to because it just works on my notebook)
[11:50] <nosklo> khoda, you can try ubuntu page for documentation
[11:50] <Paladine> well think of Xorg as the stew and Gnome as the ingredients
[11:50] <khoda> LjL: yes , but i havent heard of the differences between KDE and gnome
[11:50] <magic_> Whose got some nifty terminal tricks???
[11:50] <nosklo> khoda, the ubuntu wiki has loads of good knowledge
[11:50] <b33rnut1> nny: It's a DWL-G132 (D-Link) USB adapter
[11:50] <khoda> nosklo: will do, thanks
[11:50] <mnp> LjL: that was a typo. it starts deb, not madeb
[11:50] <djavie233> Anyone care to help me with a problem?
[11:50] <nosklo> khoda`, if you are trying to do something specific, try the ubuntu guide
[11:50] <magic_> djavie233: shoot
[11:51] <dyn-afk> b33rnut1 in my case wireless only worked properly after I deleted all contents (except lo0) from the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:51] <nosklo> khoda, and the forums are a good place to search for advanced answers
[11:51] <imme-emosol> pppoe_dude: There isn't really I think?
[11:51] <nosklo> khoda, they are all in ubuntu web page
[11:51] <djavie233> ok
[11:51] <nny> btw speaking of Xorg and notebooks, anyone have an inkling of knowledge as to why Xorg7 + nvidia drivers = black screen at ctrl/alt f* or when i hibernate?
[11:51] <dyn-afk> I use the network manager applet for the wireless configuration and such
[11:51] <djavie233> I'm trying to use the Ubuntu Live CD
[11:51] <Ackeubu_> hey if i dont get a window frame for my windows why is that?
[11:51] <khoda> nosklo: my problem is that there ins't anything im trying to do in particular. i just want to learn. i wish there were a site that would give me random projects :P
[11:51] <djavie233> I reboot my Windows XP (Gateway) computer
[11:51] <LjL> khoda: it's not really easy to give the differences. they're different. you can say many things for one and against the other, but the most important difference is that they're different :) it's not easy to explain the differences between any two given desktops, including the Windows and MacOS ones..
[11:51] <nny> b33rnut1: gotta run, coffee shop is closing, good luck
[11:52] <khoda> LjL: could point
[11:52] <b33rnut1> Haha ok
[11:52] <djavie233> Then everything is fine and going smoothly. I choose the option to Start or Install
[11:52] <b33rnut1> Thanks
[11:52] <Paladine> LjL yeah difficult eh?
[11:52] <khoda> Paladine, nosklo : pizza here, thanks for your help. ttyl
[11:52] <Paladine> khoda no problem, enjoy it
[11:52] <nosklo> khoda, np
[11:52] <LjL> mnp: try removing the "us." from the first line (you need to edit as root, so "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" or "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"), then do a "sudo apt-get update"
[11:53] <djavie233> It runs ok, but then switches to a black screen and I get this message: Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. pci_eisa : could not register EISA root." ANd then Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 293524" And it keeps repeating the latter over and over with different numbers (in front and back)
[11:53] <Paladine> okiaro, did you manage to get your keyboard problem solved
[11:54] <magic_> djavie233: did you checksum your disk before using it?
[11:54] <djavie233> I'm not a technie
[11:54] <djavie233> lol
[11:54] <djavie233> techie*
[11:54] <mnp> LjL; i still have the same message
[11:55] <Ackeubu_> Where and how does ubuntu configure wirless devices>
[11:55] <Ackeubu_> ?
[11:55] <magic_> djavie233: hmm, there's hope for you yet....on the boot screen you have options....one of them is to check the integrity or the like of the disk...do that
[11:55] <LjL> mnp: "apt-cache show libqt3-mt-dev", paste the output
[11:55] <fred__> hi, any idea how i can get an ip address from gaim?
[11:55] <djavie233> How?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ompaul: getting ready?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:56] <minerale> hi what is the mas that is needed for file permissons to be 755
[11:56] <njs> I have a software project.  As a convenience for users, we distribute binaries of new versions, until distros have a chance to pick it up.  So our unofficial sid deb has version "<release number>-0.1", to avoid bumping into the official package.  What version do I use for a package built for, say, dapper?
[11:56] <nosklo> djavie233, reboot with ubuntu cd, and choose the "test cd" option
[11:56] <magic_> djavie233: there are 4 or 5 options when you bootup with the cd/dvd you are using...one of the options says "Check disk" or something like that...you should do that
[11:57] <magic_> djavie233: listen to nosklo
[11:57] <LjL> njs: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic too
[11:57] <djavie233> I've already done that noskio, I checked the CD and it just goes to the same black screen
[11:57] <mnp> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18729
[11:58] <magic_> djavie233: have you had any problems running Windows XP recently?  Otherwise, I would download a fresh copy of Ubuntu and try again
[11:58] <mad_slackie> a good night to all
[11:58] <nosklo> djavie233, it seems your CD has an error
[11:58] <mamatoshi> has anyone tried the edgy eft knot 1?
[11:58] <mamatoshi> can you share the experience?
[11:58] <fred__> i need to get the ip of a person on my gaim (msn) list..
[11:59] <djavie233> I had a problem once with the HD, I called support and they just told me to unplug the HD and replug it. It's working fine. The problem was that one of the cables was a little lose on the HD
[11:59] <fred__> mamtoshi, i did, it's kinda cool, and 85% stable, but gnome still has that login bug
[11:59] <nosklo> fred__, ask it?
[11:59] <Paladine> fred_ why do you need their IP?
[11:59] <nosklo> fred__, ask to the person to give you their ip...
[11:59] <magic_> djavie233: pm
[11:59] <GlassCasket> So I tried modprobing ndiswrapper., but it said that the ndiswrapper module dosen't exist. Any ideas?
[12:00] <fred__> nosklo, of course im not gonna someone who is faking me for their ip.. right?
[12:00] <djavie233> magic_ I sent you a PM
[12:00] <fred__> Paladine, this person is faking..
[12:00] <LjL> mnp: do the same for the libqt3-mt package please (anyway, the problem seems to be that you somehow got installed a libqt3-mt that's more recent than the one that ships with kubuntu - my guess is that it comes from the kubuntu.org repositories, but you don't have them in your sources.list)
[12:00] <njs> LjL: err, are questions about ubuntu packaging off-topic to ubuntu?
[12:00] <Paladine> fred_ sounds like playground/schoolyard issues to me, not within the scope of this channel