[04:22] <mup> Bug #1705152 changed: Getting mDNS observation process failed error in regiond.log and commisioning not completing indefinitely <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1705152>
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1705152 opened: Getting mDNS observation process failed error in regiond.log and commisioning not completing indefinitely <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1705152>
[04:43] <mup> Bug #1705152 changed: Getting mDNS observation process failed error in regiond.log and commisioning not completing indefinitely <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1705152>
[07:50] <mup> Bug #1718122 opened: [2.3.0~alpha3] Lingering beacon-monitor/observe-beacons processes after stopping rackd/regiond <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718122>
[07:59] <mup> Bug #1718122 changed: [2.3.0~alpha3] Lingering beacon-monitor/observe-beacons processes after stopping rackd/regiond <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718122>
[08:05] <mup> Bug #1718122 opened: [2.3.0~alpha3] Lingering beacon-monitor/observe-beacons processes after stopping rackd/regiond <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718122>
[10:15] <Guest52914> @roaksoax
[10:15] <Guest52914> #roaksoax
[12:18] <BlackDex> Hello there, is it possible for maas to use a local hosted mirror for packages? So, say that i want to use maas and install an ubuntu 16.04 instance, but i don't have internet access. Could i use a local mirror running on my laptop or something instead of the default repo?
[12:19] <BlackDex> I need to provide the ubuntu image via a custom source also in that case :)
[12:20] <BlackDex> But my main consern are the packages which need to be installed and updated during the maas provisioning
[13:40] <roaksoax> BlackDex: that's a fairly common scenario
[13:40] <roaksoax> BlackDex: in the settings page there's a 'package repositories' tab
[13:40] <roaksoax> where you can change your mirrors
[13:40] <roaksoax> to use your custom ones
[13:47] <mup> Bug #1718209 opened: PXE configuration for dhcpv6 is wrong <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718209>
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1705594 opened: [2.2] rackd errors after fresh install <cdo-qa> <cdo-qa-blocker> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1705594>
[19:27] <mup> Bug #1718270 opened: [2.3] MAAS improperly determines the version of rack-controller-only installs <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718270>
[21:27] <mup> Bug #1718294 opened: [packaging] dpkg-reconfigure for region controller refers to an incorrect network topology assumption <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718294>
[21:33] <mup> Bug #1718294 changed: [packaging] dpkg-reconfigure for region controller refers to an incorrect network topology assumption <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718294>
[21:36] <mup> Bug #1718294 opened: [packaging] dpkg-reconfigure for region controller refers to an incorrect network topology assumption <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1718294>


[12:54] <kestaz> hi all
[12:54] <kestaz> i need help with bcm43xx ?
[12:56] <mamzers555> maybe this helps you: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-409194-highlight-ready.html
[12:57] <mamzers555> forget it, use this link: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/bcm43xx
[12:57] <kestaz> ok, one thing
[12:58] <kestaz> with ubuntu edgy generic kernel i can see with iwconfig my card..
[12:58] <kestaz> but i had problems with battery state so i compiled my own by kernel..
[12:59] <kestaz> everything works, but don't work bcm43xx
[12:59] <kestaz> all modules i loaded
[12:59] <mamzers555> sry, but i cannot help, don't have the bcm43xx
[12:59] <kestaz> ok
[10:30] <variant> whats the status of acpi support for POS pheonix bios's?
[10:31] <variant> acpi doesnt work properly on my laptop :( with ubuntu


[03:29] <valorie> weeeeeeee, back with two new drives
[03:29] <valorie> thomas said the one drive isn't *dead* but failing
[03:29] <tsimonq2> Weeeeeeeeeeee
[03:30] <valorie> so I'm keeping it just in case I ever need the data
[03:30] <valorie> tossed the rest of 'em
[03:31] <valorie> these were the drives from the msi
[03:31] <valorie> so rather old
[08:01] <Mamarok> there is a pending request for the launchpad team "Kubuntu release" by a guy called Donald Tanner (bionicmac), do we know him? Seems not to be otherwise active on launchpad
 he is relatively new, but was very helpful in testing for Beta 2
 good to wait to add him until after release, I think
 in case he's a flash in the pan
[08:03] <Mamarok> then we should probably tell im
 I will
[08:03] <Mamarok> thanks :-)
 it's just been a crazy week what with losing an SSD and the testing and a bunch of meetings
 to say nothing of GSoC
[08:04] <Mamarok> yes, very unfortunate we have so many things at the same time, GSoC timing is not exactly optimal
 esp. for kubuntu!
 oh well, life is what it is
[08:05] <Mamarok> yep, and it got in my way a lot lately
 I'll be going for Debian Developer shortly after LFNW. \o/
 and then ^^^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvAYwpUDv8
 😆
 Nah, from there, my focus is to go for core-dev.
 I stick by that vid then!
 hehe
[20:50] <valorie> tsimonq2: lol


[00:54] <snadge> i just farted
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> hmm that deserves a ignore permanently
[02:17] <GRMrGecko> I think that installing 12.04 via minimal cd is working.
[02:18] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, this is for 12.10 only
[02:19] <GRMrGecko> bazhang: I'm trying to install Ubuntu period... I had better luck with 12.10 in booting the live cd. However it turned off my display after the the loading screen.
[02:20] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, this is not the channel to discuss 12.04 installation, #ubuntu is for that. if you have 12.10 issues then this is the place
[02:21] <GRMrGecko> bazhang: Read the second half of the message. People in #ubuntu are redirecting me to here, people here are redirecting me there... WHY AM I GOING IN CIRCLES?!!
[02:21] <bazhang> !daily
[02:21] <GRMrGecko> I've downloaded that
[02:21] <GRMrGecko> Because....
[02:22] <GRMrGecko> 12.04 live cd doesn't boot. I just get a black screen
[02:22] <GRMrGecko> the daily I at least get the loading screen, than my display turns off.
[02:22] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, its not even alpha. you should not expect 12.10 to work in any way shape or form
[02:22] <GRMrGecko> It works better than 12.04.
[02:22] <GRMrGecko> Because I at least see the loading screen:P
[02:23] <GRMrGecko> I have not been able to install ether one still....
[02:23] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, thats not a valid criteria for "works"
[02:24] <GRMrGecko> Anyway, I am going to see if the minimal cd for 12.04 will work for me... That's all I am saying.
[02:24] <GRMrGecko> No point in redirecting me into circles that never ends.
[02:24] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, then support for it in #ubuntu   NOT here.
[02:24] <GRMrGecko> bazhang: They redirect me here.
[02:25] <GRMrGecko> Therefore, I will be redirected into a circle
[02:25] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, then dont listen to "them"
[02:25] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, I am telling you the correct place.
[02:25] <GRMrGecko> If YOU say so.
[02:26] <GRMrGecko> bazhang: Who would be best to talk to about booting the DAILY live cd on PowerPC?
[02:26] <GRMrGecko> I want to see if I can help fix this issue for future releases.
[02:27] <GRMrGecko> Note, I am saying daily, that means it belongs here?
[02:28] <bazhang> GRMrGecko, thats for bug fixing and testing. dont expect help on issues if you are not willing to be part of that process
[02:29] <GRMrGecko> I know c and c++. But I don't know how to debug an OS such as Ubuntu.
[02:29] <bazhang> !bugs | GRMrGecko this is where to file them
[02:31] <GRMrGecko> I should probably wait until I get 12.04 installed so I can get a profile of my system for the bug report.
[02:33] <GRMrGecko> Yes, I am the type of person who thinks aloud.
[03:15] <bjsnider> i'd be surprised if any of the powerpc stuff worked well. it's community maintained
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:18] <Fudge> howdy
[19:32] <FernandoMiguel> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 3.4.0-3-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.4.0-3-generic
[19:32] <FernandoMiguel> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:32] <FernandoMiguel>   File "/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/dkms_packages.py", line 99, in <module>


[06:45] <dholbach> hey hey
[06:45] <dholbach> marcoceppi, are you still in the CC channel?
[06:45] <dholbach> mhall119, ^ you too
[06:45] <dholbach> can you invite me?
[06:45] <dholbach> for some reason I can't get in because it's invite only
[09:03] <czajkowski> popey: are you going to the meetup this evening?
[09:04] <popey> czajkowski: no.
[09:04] <czajkowski> :(
[09:04] <czajkowski> was tempted to head up at 5
[09:04] <popey> Too much to do at home unfortunately
[09:05] <popey> feel free to re-share it :)
[09:05] <czajkowski> aye just did
[09:06] <popey> thanks :)
[13:04] <mhall119> dholbach: marcoceppi: you should both have invites
[15:00] <dholbach> call time, you hippies
[16:06] <dholbach> all right my friends, I call it a day - see you tomorrow! :)
[16:22] <popey> Sounds like a plan
[16:23] <popey> o/
[17:31] <czajkowski> Greetings from the Ubuntu UK meetup
[17:34] <czajkowski> .c
[18:10] <mhall119> czajkowski: o/ everyone having a good time?
[18:11] <czajkowski> yes
[18:11] <czajkowski> plus it's nice to be back here


[00:38] <jusss> where I can get the unstable version?
[00:39] <krytarik> !daily
[00:41] <jusss> thanks
[08:56] <ktecho> Hi there. Does exist any ppa that makes available the same Ubuntu packages that Ubuntu but compiled with better CFLAGS?
[08:57] <ktecho> Or maybe some effort to improve overall performance of Ubuntu
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:05] <flocculant> hi BluesKaj
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hi flocculant


[00:57] <Batshua> Hi.  New problem from me.  Mythbackend is giving me a "failed to bind to port 6543" error.
[00:57] <Batshua> I'm not sure it /ever/ worked since I'm still figuring out how to set everything up.
[01:07] <Batshua> But I think I have everything else set up so far except the remote, which, guess what?  Is not officially supported.  I hear rumors of people making it work, but I haven't heard anything concrete about how to do that.  Anyone who could help with that, that'd be awesome.  If not, I assume I can make things work with zap.
[01:10] <Batshua> ... If I'm really wrong about that, feel free to slap me upside the head.
[01:15] <acloseX> what's the IP address you have your Mythbackend set at?
[01:15] <acloseX> i think by default it's localhost
[01:15] <acloseX> did you change it?
[01:21] <Batshua> they should both be at <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever be's the default
[01:21] <Batshua> wherein when I ran mythtv-setup, that's what I put.
[01:22] <acloseX> you didn't change any of the default ports, did you?
[01:22] <Batshua> I hope not?
[01:23] <Batshua> the defaults should be as they are
[01:23] <Batshua> I broke it once already so I made sure it was as it should have been.
[01:23] <acloseX> :)
[01:24] <Batshua> ... but it's not working.
[01:24] <acloseX> did you restart the backend?
[01:24] <Batshua> I /can't/.
[01:24] <Batshua> That's the problem.
[01:24] <Batshua> running mythbackend exits at Failed to bind port 6543.
[01:25] <acloseX> oh, so when you start it it just dies...
[01:25] <acloseX> is something else running on that port?
[01:26] <Batshua> not that I know of.
[01:26] <acloseX> try:  netstat | grep 6543
[01:26] <Batshua> blank line.  prompt.
[01:26] <Batshua> so I'm gonna say "no".
[01:27] <acloseX> hmm
[01:28] <Batshua> my mythbox is totally cursed.  I researched stuff for months before I went shopping and yet all KINDS of things aren't working right.  or maybe *I* am the one who is cursed.  but in any event, at least y'all are patient and helpful.
[01:28] <acloseX> :)
[01:28] <acloseX> heh, i know how you feel
[01:28] <acloseX> i did the same thing
[01:28] <Batshua> my dad is freaking out at me
[01:28] <Batshua> because he for some reason thought it would be up and running the day I built it.
[01:28] <acloseX> had a Mythbox running fine and decided to build a new one that could handle HD to replace the first
[01:29] <Batshua> and I'm like, ... it's REALLY not that simple.
[01:29] <Batshua> oh dear.
[01:29] <acloseX> so i'm partially working :)
[01:30] <Batshua> so, story.  i went shopping for some screws for my case because the one I bought came up short on screws (horrible plastic topped thumbscrews, anyhow)
[01:30] <Batshua> and the guy at the store was like
[01:30] <Batshua> you know the acrylic cases aren't shielded against emf pulses, right?
[01:30] <Batshua> and I was just thinking
[01:30] <Batshua> you know, if we get hit by a NUCLEAR BOMB
[01:30] <acloseX> :)
[01:30] <Batshua> my biggest concern WON'T be my mythbox.
[01:31] <Batshua> I mean, yeah, it'll suck because if we get nuked we probably won't have tv anyway
[01:31] <Batshua> but I bet I'll be too busy trying to survive to worry about whether or not I can record shows.
[01:33] <Batshua> I dunno, that's just me.  Maybe my priorities are screwed up.
[01:34] <acloseX> did you do the myth install yourself, from scratch?  or are you using a distro, like MythBuntu or MythDora?
[01:34] <Batshua> I installed Ubuntu
[01:35] <Batshua> and then I added on mythbuntu
[01:35] <acloseX> added Myth via synaptic?
[01:38] <Batshua> yes, I /believe/ so
[01:38] <Batshua> I can't remember what I did.
[01:39] <Batshua> I've done SO MUCH CRAP since I started building this box
[01:39] <acloseX> MythBuntu is a linux distro that bundles Mythtv with it, as is MythDora, KnoppMyth and a couple others
[01:39] <acloseX> :)
[01:39] <Batshua> which sadly was like, ... 2 weeks ago.
[01:39] <acloseX> it might be easier to try one of those solutions
[01:39] <Batshua> yeah, you can add on mythbuntu
[01:39] <Batshua> to a regular install
[01:39] <Batshua> which is what I did.
[01:39] <Batshua> you suggesting a wipe?
[01:39] <acloseX> they're almost out of the box type deals
[01:40] <Batshua> *flails*  well, I guess I best start downloading now if I want help setting it up tonight.
[01:40] <acloseX> well, :)  since i'm no guru, that's what i'd do.  especially since it's a newish system
[01:40] <Batshua> oh, wait, I can't set it up until wed night
[01:40] <Batshua> but whatever, I can start downloading tonight.
[01:41] <acloseX> maybe someone else will chime in and can help you out
[01:42] <acloseX> i'm sorry i don't have any better suggestions :}
[01:42] <Batshua> it's alright, at least you tried.
[01:42] <Batshua> I'll download it, and see what happens.
[01:56] <Batshua> of course, the fun part will be wiping the right partition to do this, because my /Videos and my /Music are different HDs and they already have Stuff on them
[01:56] <Batshua> this is why I am waiting a couple days until my hand-holding SO can help me out.
[02:09] <acloseX> ok, so here's my problem
[02:10] <acloseX> fresh install of MythBuntu 8.10
[02:10] <acloseX> things appear to be happy, but my HDHR is always marked as unavailable
[02:11] <acloseX> looking in the mythbackend.log after a reboot i see that the backend attempts to 'discover' the HDHR, but it gets an error:
[02:11] <acloseX> Starting up as the master server.
[02:11] <acloseX> 2009-02-03 20:08:05.725 HDHRChan(1011014d/0), Error: Unable to send discovery request
[02:11] <acloseX> 			eno: Network is unreachable (101)
[02:11] <acloseX> 2009-02-03 20:08:05.746 HDHRChan(1011014d/1), Error: Unable to send discovery request
[02:11] <acloseX> 			eno: Network is unreachable (101)
[02:11] <acloseX> ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
[02:11] <acloseX> Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?
[02:11] <acloseX> then i realize it looks like the backend is looking for the HDHR before networking has been initialized
[02:11] <acloseX> so...
[02:11] <acloseX> how do i bump networking up in the boot order?
[02:13] <acloseX> i see my PVR-250 recognized in dmsg, but no mention of the HDHR in there
[02:15] <acloseX> here's a clean listin of my logs:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f24be213c
[02:24] <acloseX> i can ping my HDHR at its IP address successfully from the Mythbox
[02:24] <acloseX> and the hdhomerun_config discover command finds it ok
[02:26] <tritium> acloseX: why would you expect to see the HDHR listed in dmesg?
[02:26]  * acloseX scratches head
[02:27] <acloseX> not sure.  i kind of assumed the system would look for it
[02:27] <tritium> nope
[02:27] <acloseX> but i guess it's not really a part of the system, is it...
[02:27] <tritium> No.
[02:28] <acloseX> but it is still possible that the backend is looking for it before the network is set up..?
[02:33] <acloseX> is there any way to get the backend to rescan for the HDHR manually?
[02:34] <tritium> acloseX: update-rc.d can be used to modify initscripts, but it appears that mythtv-backend is started *after* networking is.
[02:35] <tritium> Are you relying on network-manager for your network connection?
[02:36] <acloseX> i'm guessing so, as i see it in the logs
[02:36] <acloseX> whatever is the default :)
[02:37] <tritium> acloseX: well, how is your network configured?  Static IP?  Dynamic IP?
[02:37] <acloseX> it's dynamic, but my router reserves an IP for my Mythbox based on it's mac
[02:37] <acloseX> maybe that's my prob...
[02:38] <acloseX> i have had the HDHR working
[02:38] <acloseX> but it might have been with a static IP
[02:38] <tritium> acloseX: where did you configure it?  Through network-manager?
[02:38] <tritium> Pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces, please
[02:38] <acloseX> sure, one sec
[02:38] <acloseX> no need to pastebin :)
[02:39] <acloseX> it's two lines
[02:39] <acloseX> auto lo
[02:39] <acloseX> iface lo inet loopback
[02:39] <acloseX> let me double check my router settings
[02:40] <tritium> Then you're definitely using network-manager
[02:40] <tritium> I suggest you configure your IP, even dynamic if you want, in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:41] <acloseX> ok, i'll give that a try
[02:41] <acloseX> looking at my router, which does my dhcp
[02:41] <tritium> I doubt it's your router.
[02:41] <acloseX> i do have an IP reserved for the mythbox based on mac address
[02:42] <acloseX> i'll set up /etc/network/interfaces and see if that helps
[02:42] <tritium> Yes, but network-manager initializes too late.  Don't use it.
[03:02] <acloseX> /aclose
[03:21] <acloseX> tritium, you still there? :)
[03:21] <tritium> acloseX: yes
[03:22] <acloseX> i've updated my /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <acloseX> and turned off network manager
[03:22] <tritium> good
[03:22] <acloseX> and restarting networking i do get the correct IP, but i'm unable to connect to the outside world
[03:23] <tritium> Did you configure a gateway?
[03:23] <foxbuntu> tritium, acloseX why are you doing this?
[03:24] <tritium> foxbuntu: network-manager is starting after mythtv-backend initscript runs
[03:24] <acloseX> yeah, but might not be correct.  here's my network/interfaces: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d3b603c33
[03:24] <acloseX> my routers IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:24] <foxbuntu> tritium, then adjust the initscript with rc
[03:25] <acloseX> which i 'assumed' would be the gateway
[03:25] <tritium> foxbuntu: that was my first suggestion, if you scroll up
[03:25] <foxbuntu> acloseX, you need a default route
[03:25] <foxbuntu> tritium, making these changes is a bad idea and doesnt fix the real issue, just covers up its symptoms and is not supportable/sustainable
[03:26] <tritium> foxbuntu: standard networking configuration in /etc/network/interfaces is a bad idea?  How so?
[03:27] <foxbuntu> tritium, not that, disabling network-manager this way is the bad idea
[03:28] <tritium> I never suggested he disable it.
[03:28] <acloseX> foxbuntu: i disabled it according to the Ubuntu NetworkManger docs :)
[03:28] <acloseX> bad idea?
[03:28] <acloseX> sorry, maybe i misunderstood tritium
[03:28] <foxbuntu> acloseX, what changed to cause this to happen?
[03:29] <acloseX> new install
[03:29] <foxbuntu> of?
[03:29] <foxbuntu> 9.04?
[03:29] <acloseX> trying to get my HDHR working again
[03:29] <foxbuntu> 8.10?
[03:29] <acloseX> 8.10
[03:29] <foxbuntu> updated?
[03:29] <foxbuntu> or no?
[03:29] <acloseX> for some reason it looks like mythbackend starts up and does the discovery for the HDHR before networking is available
[03:29] <acloseX> yes, updated
[03:30] <foxbuntu> acloseX, that was an issue some time ago
[03:30] <foxbuntu> acloseX, static IP or DHCP?
[03:30] <acloseX> i was using DHCP with my DHCP server(router) reserving an IP
[03:31] <foxbuntu> that should be fine
[03:31] <tritium> I had the same issue when I tried using a wireless card, and relying on network-manager.  I reverted to ethernet, and configuring in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:32] <foxbuntu> tritium, thats the same as setting a static IP in network-manger
[03:32] <acloseX> i'm ethernet
[03:33] <foxbuntu> acloseX, you might try a static IP with network manager to check if its DHCP response time that is your real problem
[03:33] <tritium> foxbuntu: no, I tried that.  network-manager didn't touch /etc/network/interfaces at all.  It has its own config files, it would appear.  And, it got configured later.
[03:33] <tritium> I believe its settings are in /etc/NetworkManager/
[03:34] <acloseX> ok, i think i've undone what i did :)
[03:35] <foxbuntu> tritium, no, it does edit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:35] <foxbuntu> acloseX, give a static address via network-manager a try
[03:35] <tritium> foxbuntu: I assure you it did not
[03:35] <foxbuntu> tritium, I am not going to argue, its not worth my time
[03:36] <tritium> I'm not arguing.
[03:36] <acloseX> ok.  is ther ean easy way to use NM in MythBuntu?
[03:36] <acloseX> it doesn't apper to be in System -> whatever :)
[03:36] <foxbuntu> acloseX, very easy
[03:36] <foxbuntu> acloseX, right click the Computer looking icon by the clock
[03:36] <foxbuntu> Edit Connections
[03:37] <acloseX> got it
[03:43] <acloseX> in IPv4 Settings, i switched Method to Manual
[03:44] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:44] <acloseX> added the IP i want, its netmask and gateway
[03:44] <acloseX> also updated DNS and Search
[03:44] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:44] <acloseX> added a route
[03:44] <acloseX> but the 'ok' button is greyed out
[03:44] <foxbuntu> shouldnt need to add the route
[03:44] <foxbuntu> it will generate one for you
[03:45] <acloseX> ok, removed
[03:45] <acloseX> 'ok' is still unaccessible
[03:45] <foxbuntu> on the main part of the IPv4 settings?
[03:46] <acloseX> on the main window panel
[03:46] <acloseX> i can cancel or close the window
[03:47] <foxbuntu> hmm
[03:47] <acloseX> i'm logged in as my default user
[03:47] <foxbuntu> try restarting network-manager
[03:48] <foxbuntu> acloseX, that should be fine
[03:49] <acloseX> oh, in network connections, maybe i needed to add a new connection instad of editing the default 'Auto eth0'?
[03:49] <foxbuntu> nope
[03:49] <foxbuntu> you did it right
[03:50] <acloseX> as soon as i switch to Manual the 'ok' button goes grey
[03:51] <foxbuntu> did you click add to add an IP?
[03:51] <acloseX> yes
[03:52] <acloseX> well, now it appears ok :)
[03:52] <acloseX> not sure what i did
[03:52] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:52] <acloseX> i had it all filled out before :)
[03:54] <foxbuntu> make sure the IP is set (Right Click the Icon Again > Connection Info) then reboot and see if things work for you
[03:57] <acloseX> ok, networking appears to be correct
[03:58] <acloseX> HDHR is still unreachable upon boot
[03:58] <acloseX> but IP and everythig stuck
[03:58] <tritium> acloseX: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces for me, please?
[03:58] <rhpot1991> acloseX: have you tried powering down the HDHR and powering it back up?
[03:59] <rhpot1991> I had mine get stuck one and that fixed it
[03:59] <acloseX> no, i haven't tried that.  not a bad idea
[03:59] <acloseX> but i can ping it and can discover it using the hdhomerun_config discover tool/cmd
[03:59] <foxbuntu> acloseX, also, if you have done so, try updating the firmware on the HDHR
[04:00] <acloseX> foxbuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/113457/
[04:01] <acloseX> not much in there
[04:01] <tritium> acloseX: as I suspected.  Thanks.  Same thing happened to me.
[04:01] <acloseX> that is what the default was when i first started
[04:02] <acloseX> i'll double check my HDHR firmware, but it's been updated in the last coule months
[04:02] <foxbuntu> acloseX, then its prob fine
[04:02] <tritium> foxbuntu: as you can see, I was not arguing.  I was stating fact.
[04:03] <foxbuntu> tritium, mine has my network-manager settings in it and a line # Generated By NetworkManager at the top
[04:04] <foxbuntu> tritium, thats the end of the conversation, if you have more idea to add to resolve (not mask) acloseX's issue, feel free to add to that conversation as this one is fruitless
[04:04] <acloseX> i had sen that in the /etc/resolve.conf, but not in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:04] <acloseX> here is my most recent mythbackend.log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/113459/
[04:04] <tritium> foxbuntu: I never tried to mask his issue.  I'm not sure why you'd accuse me of that.
[04:05] <foxbuntu> tritium, last warning, its over, drop it
[04:06] <tritium> Take it easy.  No need for accusations or anger.
[04:07] <acloseX> line 13 of that log, any idea why it's stating 'eno: Network is unreachable...', instead of 'eth0'?
[04:09] <acloseX> i'm using the onboard nic in my mobo and there is only one...
[04:09] <tritium> acloseX: my suspicion would still be that there's nothing in your /etc/network/interfaces to configure the interface.
[04:10] <foxbuntu> acloseX, you can try auto eth0
[04:10] <foxbuntu> in that config
[04:10] <foxbuntu> put it at the top
[04:10] <foxbuntu> then reboot
[04:11] <acloseX> sure thing
[04:12] <rhpot1991> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:12] <acloseX> :)
[04:12] <acloseX> too late
[04:12] <rhpot1991> could use that instead of rebooting
[04:12] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, the reboot is to test the rc
[04:12] <acloseX> i'll try to remember that for next time :)
[04:13]  * rhpot1991 isn't really paying attention much
[04:13]  * foxbuntu  noticed
[04:13] <rhpot1991> heh
[04:13] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:13] <hads> You and your rebooting
[04:14] <acloseX> fox, rhpot, are you guys Mythbuntu developers?  or just helping out and being friendly?
[04:14] <acloseX> system is back up
[04:14] <acloseX> ifconfig looks good
[04:15] <acloseX> mythbackend.log still Unable to discover....
[04:16] <acloseX> i'll give the HDHR a reboot too :)
[04:16] <rhpot1991> hads: I tried to stop him :)
[04:16] <hads> :)
[04:16] <foxbuntu> hads, yea yea
[04:17] <foxbuntu> hads, www.foxmediasystems.com
[04:17] <foxbuntu> hads, ;)
[04:17] <hads> I was waiting for that :)
[04:17] <foxbuntu> there now we got it all out of the way for the night
[04:17] <foxbuntu> well day for you
[04:18] <acloseX> cool
[04:19] <acloseX> i 'thought' that would be an interesting business
[04:19] <acloseX> but i'm no Linux/Myth guru :)
[04:19] <foxbuntu> acloseX, interesting it has been
[04:20] <rhpot1991> acloseX: I develop some things
[04:20] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, bugs :)
[04:20] <foxbuntu> lol
[04:20] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: and month long SRU journeys
[04:20] <acloseX> :)
[04:20] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, yeah, SRUs = bad
[04:22] <acloseX> no luck with a restart of the HDHR either.
[04:22] <acloseX> it gets the same IP, and i can ping/discover it
[04:22] <acloseX> rebooting the mythbox it's still unreachable
[04:23]  * foxbuntu is trying to find the bug report related to this
[04:23] <foxbuntu> rhpot1991, there was a bug for this some time back wasnt there?
[04:24] <acloseX> i thought i had seen some mention of it on the Mythtv mailing list
[04:25] <rhpot1991> foxbuntu: I'm not sure sorry
[04:25] <acloseX> but, at the time, i had the thing working :) so didn't pay too much attention to it
[04:25] <acloseX> i can't seem to find it searching the archives
[04:25] <foxbuntu> acloseX, I found that
[04:25] <foxbuntu> I am reading through it now
[04:28] <foxbuntu> acloseX, you could try moving the rc script
[04:28] <foxbuntu> couldnt hurt at this point
[04:28] <acloseX> the /etc/update-rc.d script?
[04:29] <foxbuntu> acloseX, no
[04:29] <foxbuntu> acloseX, ls /etc/rc2.d/*mythtv-backend
[04:30] <foxbuntu> then like on my system it would be: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S20mythtv-backend /etc/rc2.d/S99mythtv-backend
[04:30] <acloseX> oh, ok
[04:31] <foxbuntu> that will make mythtv-backend startup last
[04:31] <foxbuntu> which should allow networking enough time to come all the way up
[04:31] <foxbuntu> which for some reason on your machine its doing slowly
[04:31] <acloseX> weird that it had worked before though
[04:32] <foxbuntu> acloseX, you can check out the other logs (or use mythbuntu-log-grabber to get them) to see if there is something indicating why networking is slow
[04:33] <acloseX> any particular log i should focus on?
[04:33] <foxbuntu> prob the syslog
[04:33] <acloseX> i ws looking through the grabber last night
[04:33] <acloseX> i'll see if anything stands out
[04:34] <foxbuntu> with the script moved try to reboot and see if things come up normally
[04:35] <foxbuntu> acloseX, is this a clean install of 8.10 or an upgrade from earlier releases
[04:35] <acloseX> fresh install
[04:35] <foxbuntu> k
[04:35] <foxbuntu> yeah, the network-manager bug I was thinking of is from 7.10
[04:36] <foxbuntu> thats really old
[04:36] <acloseX> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fb2dfca5
[04:38] <acloseX> no luck on the reboot
[04:40] <foxbuntu> intresting
[04:40] <foxbuntu> well looking at your syslog the NIC is coming online normal
[04:41] <foxbuntu> acloseX, in your tuner configuration in mythtv-setup, did you use the default of FFFFFF for the hdhr id or use your actual id?
[04:41] <acloseX> actual id
[04:42] <acloseX> 1011014D
[04:42] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:42] <foxbuntu> ....it __shouldnt__ matter if you only have one
[04:42] <foxbuntu> but just trying to rule things out
[04:42] <acloseX> yep, only one
[04:45] <acloseX> well, i'm done for tonight
[04:45] <acloseX> i really appreciate the help/suggestions
[04:46] <acloseX> maybe i'll think of what i did differently this time around and be able to slap myself upside the head :)
[04:47] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:47] <foxbuntu> night
[04:48] <acloseX> thx again
[06:34] <YooPhGluP> does anyone know how to get an pvr-150mce card to work??????
[16:48] <pteague> anybody have any opinions on zotac mobos? i'm thinking of getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500020 for a frontend
[17:17] <pteague> any idea if the intel e1200 celeron will play hi-def video ?
[18:18] <foxbuntu> pteague, likely not
[18:19] <pteague> i may just stick with getting http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359 then
[18:20] <foxbuntu> pteague, I have one of those
[18:20] <foxbuntu> ...havent had time to test it yet
[18:20] <foxbuntu> but I have a FE built and sitting around based on that
[18:21] <foxbuntu> pteague, if your worried about hd video, I would suggest you stick to a microATX board and a full proc
[18:22] <foxbuntu> pteague, also to get the best performance from the Atom you will need an LPIA kernel'
[18:22] <foxbuntu> ...which has its own can of worms as I understand (and there isnt a mythbuntu build for)
[18:25] <pteague> i have the previous atom 230 that i'm currently using for my frontend... i'm planning to get the 330 & use the 230 for my fileserver
[18:26] <foxbuntu> hows it working for HD video?
[18:26] <foxbuntu> ...and are you using lpia?
[18:27] <pteague> not using hd video yet... i've got a pvr-500 in my backend & frontend is currently only plugged into a 19" widescreen
[18:28] <foxbuntu> oh
[18:28] <foxbuntu> I just need to make it happen, I have everything I need to test it
[18:28] <foxbuntu> lol
[18:28] <foxbuntu> I have piles of hardware in my home office now
[18:28] <pteague> it runs ok, but the 230 is limited to 1gb ram... the 330 has a 2gb, it's a bit faster processor, & i'm hoping the video will be a bit better... 230 only has a d-sub
[18:29] <foxbuntu> and a 40" 1080p LCD
[18:29] <pteague> 1 thing i was looking at was http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500020 - d-sub + dvi & i think i saw 1 of these had an hdmi adapter... only issue is you have to buy cpu separately
[18:30] <pteague> i'm thinking a geforce 7100 should be able to maybe possibly handle the hd ?
[18:31] <foxbuntu> if it supports VDPAU i think it would be ok
[18:31] <foxbuntu> but iirc thats only 8xxx+
[18:31] <foxbuntu> pteague, check out the antec fusion mini
[18:32] <foxbuntu> its a pretty nice case, little larger than you are looking but gives you much better hardware options
[18:32] <pteague> the zotac i was originally looking at is an AM2+/AM2, but has a geforce 8200 which my understanding is there's a bug in the drivers - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500021
[18:32] <foxbuntu> pteague, yes there is a bug in the 8200
[18:32] <foxbuntu> as in they dont work
[18:32] <foxbuntu> at least last time I tired them
[21:25] <yepun>  I am facing instability in loading the firmware dvb-fe-tda10046.fw for my PCI TV card using the module  tda1004. Frequently it goes in timeout and after a bit it load the correct revision but I get a process continuously running at 10-15% of CPU! any idea/suggestions?
[21:27] <yepun> I have also the syslogs for additional info if someone had a similar problem
[22:11] <oobe> /j #poo
[22:11] <oobe> woops


 That is alreay done and building
 or do you mean pick up in another way?
 e.g. force a cache refresh still?
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 oh great, that was what I was looking for, thanks!
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 building for bionic and backports
 will copy the backports one to the landing repo
[00:06] <valorie> weeeeeee
 s/repo/ppa
 fantastic
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 launchpad publisher seems to have left the building, so will have to copy that over in the morning. sigh
 heyo folks
 so I got another suggestion that not sure if task or bug you decide … Why is System Settings not in alphabetical order? I understand the categories need to be set for importants but the items in each category not being alphabetical is very annoying (once I noticed that, no idea how I never noticed that before)
[02:35] <valorie> @MichaelTun -- please talk to the Plasma devels about that and see what they think
[02:35] <valorie> we really don't want to patch Plasma for stuff like this
 understandable will do
[02:39] <valorie> thanks!
 the only way we could make it alphabetical is if we also removed all the categories (otherwise each individual section would be alphabetical, which would be just weird)
 I think the better path forward here is colsolidating everything in System Settings so that you don't have to wade through so much stuff in the first place
 and in fact, that's on the docket for Plasma 5.13
[02:40] <valorie> it's already better than it used to be
[02:40] <valorie> simpler
[02:40] <valorie> that said, I usually just ask krunner for what I want
 @nggraham, each section being alphabetical would be good . . . the current way is "good luck finding anything". I have used Plasma for years and sometimes I still forget where things are. Making it even slightly easier would be a good thing
[02:41] <valorie> or what someone in #kubuntu wants
 I use krunner too but I use System Settings to explain to people where things are because people ask me to
 again, the win here is simplifying it, which we're doing
[02:42] <valorie> yeah
 @nggraham, simplify is great yes but resorting it would be a good stopgap until that happens
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[09:32] <sheytan> Hi! How do i login into wayland session in 17.10?
[09:33] <sheytan> there's no option to change this at login screen
[09:36] <acheronuk> sheytan: install package plasma-workspace-wayland
[09:36] <acheronuk> should then see a wayland session in sddm
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[11:48] <mparillo> Is kio-gdrive packaged for BB? Or is it user error on my part? sudo apt update && sudo apt install -y kio-gdrive gives me an E: Unable to locate package kio-gdrive.
[11:50] <acheronuk> mparillo: it just needs the packaging reviewed, then MOTUd
[11:56] <mparillo> And Simon is a MoTU, but can he play both roles, or is there some kind of segregation of duties? In the meantime I suppose I will find a different way to upload screenshots from my work VM to the Beta1 Wiki Page.
[12:01] <acheronuk> not really. I'll review and give to him, but he can do his own check if he feel that is needed
[12:01] <acheronuk> mparillo: building now in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc
[12:04] <mparillo> Wow, thank you. The Ubuntu wiki does much better with Google Chrome, which I would prefer not to install in that VM, because I wanted to have my VM looking very clean for the screenshots (similarly, I would not want to have a dropbox icon in the tray).
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[12:32] <blaze> acheronuk: please look https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391002
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[12:34] <acheronuk> blaze: and? context?
[12:34] <acheronuk> e.g. what is that breaking and where?
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[12:41] <blaze> acheronuk: I just hope that bionic will get the fix in time, not through backports
[12:50] <acheronuk> blaze: what does it break?
[12:54] <blaze> Qt API :)
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[13:24] <Riddell> valorie: icons in discover are created by appstream and downloaded as part of the apt repo (they also look crap in neon dev editions where we don't do appstream), I think it's up to launchpad to do that in ubuntu
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[13:30] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:42] <acheronuk> mparillo: can you please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1751459
[13:43] <acheronuk> mparillo: since you have been actively testing
[13:49] <acheronuk> valorie: same if you can? ^^
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[13:57] <mparillo> Thanks acheronuk. I commented immediately, will try to test a bit this weekend. Note that for me at least on another distro, the .png previews for gdrive do not work
[13:57] <mparillo> In the meantime, I simply used the web ui to upload new images.
[13:57] <mparillo> Now in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/Beta1/Kubuntu
[13:59] <acheronuk> 'the dark side' lol
[14:02] <mparillo> I am sure somebody will change it, but I could not resist.
[14:10]  * acheronuk waves to DarinMiller
 @nggraham what release can you test this on? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/solid/commit/?h=kubuntu_bionic_archive&id=fffa069faba04909075c371a15e019143ea6e463
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 I was never able to reproduce the problem with my own setup, actually. I just landed the patch on behalf of others (who could reproduce it)
 okaay
 do we really need to add that now then I wonder?
 It'll be fixed in 5.44, so as long as we ship with that, I think we're good
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 It looks sane enough. Lets go with it in bionic, but look out for bug reports in case of unintended consequenses.
 roger that
[15:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_solid build #471: STILL FAILING in 4 min 8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_solid/471/
 I'll not give that to backports until it has had some time with no issues
[16:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_solid build #472: STILL FAILING in 4 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_solid/472/
[16:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[16:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_solid build #76: FIXED in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_solid/76/
[16:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[16:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_solid build #194: FIXED in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_solid/194/
 anyone on 18.04 want to try the latest version of MenuLibre? They claim to have added Plasma support but seems only available in Bionic
 https://bluesabre.org/2018/02/06/menulibre-2-1-5-released/
 I just want to know if it works and does it allow to edit jumplists while in Plasma
[19:38] <valorie> will do, acheronuk
[19:38]  * acheronuk reads back as he forgot what he asked!
[19:38] <acheronuk> ah. kio-gdrive. ace!
[19:38] <acheronuk> valorie: ty :)
[19:51] <valorie> working well for me
[19:54] <acheronuk> :) anyone using, please comment on the bug
 :D
[20:53] <mparillo> acheronuk: valorie and Lazy B...can you put Dolphin in preview mode, and look to see .png previews in your real folders? Then look at .pngs in you GDrive?
[20:57] <valorie> I can open them in gwenview but there are no previews in gdrive
[21:03] <mparillo> So same for you. I bet that means it is an upstream problem, but I could not find anything on BKO.
[21:04] <valorie> not sure it's a bug -- perhaps it is something Google doesn't allow in their API?
[21:06] <valorie> because once I open taht same folder on the web, the 'previews' are huge
[21:06] <valorie> almost 2"x2"
[21:18] <blaze> yeah, I fear that the only way to generate preview is to download the image into /tmp and then render preview from there
[21:24] <valorie> I sort of doubt that is worth the cycles, but I guess if people want it, it *could* be done
[21:25] <valorie> would be slow and energy consuming though
 @Andredelsa can we enlist your talent for 18.04?


[10:44] <rabbit__> Hello!
[17:02] <rajeev> clear
[17:03] <heath> rajeev!
[17:03] <rajeev> clear
[17:03] <rajeev> exit
[17:03] <rajeev> exit
[17:03] <heath> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[17:03] <heath> not seeing anything scheduled
[17:03] <heath> rajeev: /exit is what you want
[17:04] <heath> and /clear clears the screen generally
[17:04] <rajeev> thanks heath
[17:04] <heath> np bob
[17:04] <rajeev> whats bob?
[17:04] <heath> "no prob bob"
[17:04] <heath> it's a saying
[17:05] <rajeev> ok
[17:05]  * heath doesn't see a class on the schedule...
[17:05]  * heath leaves as well
[17:05] <heath> adíos amigos!


[10:03] <Alero> Hello!
[10:04] <Alero> i am in a need of some help!
[10:04] <Alero> yo see, i just changed to ubuntu and i dont really get all that well yet. i wanted a something to record my music with, and found ubuntustudio
[10:05] <Alero> now im running this on my netbook, so i dont have a dvddrive so i need to mount the iso, so i downloaded this furius iso mounter
[10:06] <Alero> and now that i have mounted the iso, nothing happens. i can explore inside the drive and all, but i cant run the installation
[10:06] <Alero> i would be glad if someone could give me and advice!
[10:08] <Alero> also, is my aspire one powerfull enough to run ubuntustudio? my plan is to use as little VST as possible. create drum patterns and record my synth on tom of them
[10:08] <Alero> top of them*
[17:23] <Parsind> is this distro good at using win apps ?
[17:23] <Parsind> is it part of the officila ubuntu famalie?
[22:43] <digikwondo> hello , have my own budget studio with an ol zepto laptop , 2GB Ram, Intel dual core. Built in Intel HDA audio interface with 1in/out1 stereo jackets. i got a 6 channel Mixer with a SE X1 mic on the in and headphones on the out. this acctually works nice ;)  except from the Xruns.... im quite new to linux but could need some pointers on eliminating xruns.


[14:49] <jdstrand_> hey, I see that postfix was updated in https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6591-1 (thanks!). I noticed there is a refined patch to use 'smtpd_forbid_bare_newline = normalize' which improves compatibility while still closing the issue: https://www.postfix.org/announcements/postfix-3.8.5.html. Is Ubuntu planning on updating for this?
[14:51] <jdstrand> allenpthuang: ^
[14:53] <sdeziel> it doesn't help discoverability that this refinement isn't mentioned in the timeline on https://www.postfix.org/smtp-smuggling.html
[14:53] <jdstrand> it doesn't
[14:53] <jdstrand> I saw it on oss-sec
[15:07] <amurray> hey (and thanks for the heads up) jdstrand - allenpthuang is on a training course but will take a look later today
[15:13] <jdstrand> amurray: ack, thanks!
[23:08] <allenpthuang> hey jdstrand (re: postfix patch) thanks for the heads up! I took a quick look and can confirm I was working on those updates based on the versions 3.8.4, 3.7.9, 3.6.13 and 3.5.23. And I now find they update the page (https://www.postfix.org/smtp-smuggling.html) with the newer version you mentioned. I'll have another further look to see what I can
[23:08] <allenpthuang> do tomorrow :)
[23:18] <jdstrand> allenpthuang: thanks! :)
[23:43] <allenpthuang> no problem at all!