[00:00] <Hathadar> I am wanting to install a c++ syntax highlighter for vim.  Both google and the plugin documentation states to place it in my ~/.vim folder.  No such folder exists on my new install of Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS.  How may I find where vim plugins should go?
[00:01] <bekks> Hathadar: Create the folder.
[00:01] <Hathadar> bekks: will do.  thx
[00:01] <macbuntuargh> Hathadar: what bekks said, also look into using https://github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen instead of manually installing packages
[00:01] <Hathadar> I guess I could do that too.
[00:01] <macbuntuargh> it will save you some headaches down the line
[00:03] <Hathadar> On another note, does apt-get have a search option for programs to install?  I just now did a apt-get install github but there is no such package.  Is there a way to find it via CLI instead of  asking google?
[00:03] <bekks> Hathadar: apt-cache search ...
[00:03] <Hathadar> thx
[00:04] <jrib> Hathadar: github is a website though
[00:04] <bwayne> wget github.com
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> bwayne: wget is not cloud scale
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> use curl instead
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> it does bigdata
[00:05] <ixio> !ot
[00:05] <bwayne> ;)
[00:05] <Hathadar> macbuntuargh, could you elaborate on wget not being cloud safe?
[00:06] <macbuntuargh> Hathadar: I was being silly, nevermind
[00:06] <iq> Hi
[00:07] <daftykins> hi
[00:07] <Xerofyte> Can anyone please tell me How Can I Install this "nVidia-Linux-x86_64-304.88.run" on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit
[00:07] <linuxuz3r> !plymouth
[00:08] <jrib> !nvidia | Xerofyte
[00:08] <k1l_> Xerofyte: are you sure you dont want to use the nvidia driver that comes from ubuntu?
[00:08] <Hathadar> Would general linux newbie questions such as apt-get be appropriate here or only topics exclusive to ubuntu?
[00:09] <jrib> Hathadar: apt-get is related to ubuntu, so yeah
[00:09] <Xerofyte> jrib, ubottu  and k1l_  I just downloaded it from the nVidia Website
[00:09] <k1l_> Xerofyte: yes, but is there a reason you dont want to use the nvidia driver that ubuntu ships and made be supported by your ubuntu?
[00:09] <jrib> Xerofyte: it's suggested you use the version packaged in ubuntu's repositories; follow ubottu's link
[00:10] <minas> how can I test if compiz is running?
[00:11] <wylde> Xerofyte: if you choose to install manually you will likely have to repair your drivers after every kernel update.
[00:11] <Xerofyte> k1l_, The ubuntu ship version does not a high res. :( I want to use 1920x1280
[00:11] <Xerofyte> jrib,  I am going through the link now.
[00:11] <macbuntuargh> minas: "pgrep -lf compiz" is probably a good start
[00:11] <Xerofyte> wylde, I see
[00:12] <wylde> Xerofyte: you're sure the resoloution limitation is driver related and not hardware?
[00:12] <minas> macbuntuargh, says "2215 compiz". so it is running, right?
[00:12] <macbuntuargh> minas: yup
[00:12] <minas> thanks
[00:13] <Xerofyte> wylde: Yes. The same hardware on Windows gives me a very high res. But on ubuntu its limited.
[00:13] <wylde> Xerofyte: alrighty. Just checking.
[00:14] <Xerofyte> wylde: Alright. as you said after every update i have to repair the drivers. As far as I have the driver software saved I think It wont be problem. I will reinstall it. I guess
[00:15] <minas> the launcher is not visible. i have ubuntu 13.04. i tried the dconf reset ... command and it doesn't work. what can I do?
[00:18] <Xerofyte> wylde: are you with me?
[00:19] <LinuxGuy2020> On an Ubuntu server, I have a dual LAN and a wifi PCI adapter installed. The LAN ports work out of the box and I am in the process of reading and watching tutorials for command line network configuring. My one last question is if/when I unplug a LAN cable, will the wifi adapter get automatically kicked on and take over and vice versa?
[00:22] <wylde> Xerofyte: easy answer is: ctrl+alt+f2 to get to tty. Login and sudo service lightdm stop, then navigate to the directory you have the file sudo chmod +x filname then run it with sudo ./filename and follow the prompts. If you're lucky the installer will be able to remove the previously installed driver. If not then I'd have to consult google.
[00:23] <wylde> Xerofyte: I'm just about to head out. Sorry.
[00:23] <Xerofyte> wylde: Its okay Brother.. :) I will follow the procedure now :)
[00:24] <kurokin> What would cause my wifi to not let me connect the offical xbmc remote to the xbmc running, yet be able to with a wired connection ?
[00:27] <Sander^Lap> Do anyone know if llvm 3.4 is included in ubuntu 13.10?
[00:28] <Sander^Lap> in the beta
[00:28] <trism> Sander^Lap: yes, it is in the repos
[00:30] <steve__> sup
[00:32] <steve__> creepypasta
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | Sander^Lap
[00:38] <spacecase> hey, quick question.  Is swap space reclaimed at all or does it just fill up as time goes on?
[00:40] <Xerofyte> How to Get back from the tty
F7
[00:41] <daftykins> + <Ctrl>
[00:42] <daftykins> spacecase: it's managed just like system RAM
[00:42] <tsimpson> no need for ctrl from the tty, only from X
[00:42] <daftykins> oh, this i did not know
[00:42] <daftykins> ty sirs
[00:42] <spacecase> daftykins: so when it fills up it will dump un used pages to avoid oom?
[00:44] <daftykins> i'd expect so
[00:45] <Xerofyte> How to navigate to a directory through Terminal or in teletypewriter
[00:46] <Q78949> @Xerofyte is that a question?
[00:47] <Xerofyte> Q78949: Yes .. Sorry Did put a Question mark in the end
[00:47] <Xerofyte> didn't*
[00:47] <Q78949> use the "cd" command
[00:48] <hylian> hello all
[00:48] <Q78949> so if you want to change directory from "/etc" to "/home" type "cd /home"
[00:49] <Q78949> @xerofyte you can also issue the command "pwd" to see where you currently are
[00:49] <Xerofyte> :) Thanks Q78949
[00:49] <Q78949> np
[00:51] <aguirre_> hi
[00:51] <Q78949> hi
[00:51] <hylian> Q78949: have you ever messed around with fsv? it lets you see your file structure in a 3d environment... it's rather interesting. not very useful, but interesting
[00:52] <Q78949> @hylian no, never heard of it
[00:52] <yoshi435> hello
[00:52] <spacecase> My swap space is normally pretty full (currently at 3 days uptime and 87% used swap), however I don't see how adding more swap would help, wouldn't it just fill up too? meminfo: http://pastebin.com/Wq773PYA
[00:52] <Q78949> works with ubuntu?
[00:52] <yoshi435> My name is yoshi435. nice meet you
[00:52] <Xerofyte> Q78949: How to get Back to the Default Position. ?
[00:52] <hylian> Q78949: yep. used it myself once just to take a look... http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[00:52] <yoshi435> I can't speak english. very little.
[00:52] <Q78949> xerofyte default should be "/home/username"
[00:53] <Xerofyte> Q78949: Got it :D
[00:53] <yoshi435> Hi Stanley00
[00:53] <hylian> yeah, mine is /home/denny
[00:53] <Stanley00> hi yoshi435
[00:53] <R0b0t1> Hi, my laptop's touchpad doesn't seem to have a hardware right click button. The whole surface is a sensor, though. How can I configure it to treat a left click in the right area of the sensor as a right click?
[00:53] <hylian> yoshi435: what labguage do you speak? espanol?
[00:53] <yoshi435> japanese
[00:53] <yoshi435> こんにちは
[00:53] <Q78949> hylian, looks cool, kinda like firefox 3d view
[00:54] <yoshi435> i live japan
[00:54] <spacecase> R0b0t1: you wouldn't happen to be running KDE would you?
[00:54] <hylian> Q78949: never heard of that, i'll have to look into it.
[00:54] <yoshi435> Google Translation use me
[00:54] <spacecase> also R0b0t1 check your mouse / trackpad settings, you may have 2 finger click options
[00:54] <hylian> is there a japanese ubuntu room on freenode?
[00:55] <yoshi435> Oh sorry.
[00:55] <hylian> yoshi435: no problem :)
[00:55] <Q78949> hylian just right click on a webpage and inspect element
[00:55] <yoshi435> thank's
[00:55] <hylian> yoshi435: can we help you yoshi435?
[00:55] <yoshi435> It terrifically information is less Japan's ...
[00:55] <Q78949> hylian, click the cube shape near the bottom right
[00:55] <yoshi435> yes.
[00:55] <R0b0t1> spacecase: Nah, gnome3, but I will look in trackpad settings
[00:56] <R0b0t1> I think I have before though
[00:56] <hylian> Q78949: i'll have to do that. not running firefox, i'm a chromium user, but i'll look into it
[00:56] <hylian> yoshi435: how can we help you?
[00:56] <R0b0t1> spacecase: Yeah, nothing in there as far as I can tell
[00:56] <yoshi435> It is not possible to bridge connection of a KVM
[00:56] <yoshi435> It can not be set to br0 wlan0
[00:57] <Xerofyte> in the GUI there a directory "XYZ" in my "Home" How do I navigate to that Specific "XYZ" directory in terminal?
[00:57] <yoshi435> /etc/network/interfaces detail
[00:57] <EvilBlob> type 'CD XYZ'
[00:57] <spacecase> R0b0t1: ah, damn.  sorry IDK then, I'd make sure you have the proper drivers installed (try installing synaptiks)
[00:57] <yoshi435> auto lo
[00:57] <yoshi435> iface lo inet loopback
[00:57] <yoshi435> auto wlan0
[00:57] <yoshi435> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[00:57] <FloodBot1> yoshi435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <yoshi435>         wireless-mode managed
[00:58] <yoshi435>         wireless-essid *******
[00:58] <spacecase> yoshi435: pastebin.org
[00:58] <yoshi435> What would you say?
[00:58] <hylian> yoshi435: yoshi435 use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to send us a lot of data, ok? :)
[00:58] <yoshi435> OK
[00:59] <R0b0t1> spacecase: alright
[00:59] <yoshi435> Thank you everyone
[00:59] <fitnerd> My boot is getting stuck because of some nfs auto mounts not working. It loops forever trying to mount them. ( 12.04 ).  Recovery mode does the same thing and I can't get a shell.  Does anyone have a suggestion how to make grub give me a shell so I can edit the fstab and take these mounts out?
[00:59] <hylian> poor yoshi..
[00:59] <EvilBlob> Could you edit it in a LiveCD?
[01:00] <fitnerd> EvilBlob: this is booting inside a virtual machine, don't think I can do that
[01:01] <hylian> fitnerd: are you using kvm, or ??
[01:01] <fitnerd> vmware ESX
[01:02] <hylian> fitnerd: you can still mount a live iso/usb stick/cd in a virtual machine just like a regular machine. i've done it alot to fix my tinycore machine
[01:02] <spacecase> fitnerd: if recovery mode doesn't work (not sure why since it shouldn't try to mount anything other than /) a live CD would be your best option
[01:02] <chaosbringer> Question guys and girls, i have ubuntu 12.10, trying to instlall ruby-rvm and i keep getting this error: Package ruby-rvm is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[01:03] <kurokin> What would cause my wifi to not let me connect the offical xbmc remote to the xbmc running, yet be able to with a wired connection ?
[01:03] <chaosbringer> i have already tried apt-get install -f
[01:03] <chaosbringer> and no dice....any recommendations?
[01:03] <yoshi435> 返答が来なかったです
[01:03] <yoshi435> Response is I did not come
[01:04] <yoshi435> auto lo
[01:04] <yoshi435> iface lo inet loopback
[01:04] <yoshi435> auto wlan0
[01:04] <yoshi435> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[01:04] <yoshi435>         wireless-mode managed
[01:04] <FloodBot1> yoshi435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <yoshi435>         wireless-essid *****
[01:04] <hylian> yoshi435: did you try going to channel #ubuntu-jp? they speak japanese...
[01:05] <yoshi435> Oh Sorry.
[01:05] <yoshi435> Response is I did not come Ubuntu-jp
[01:05] <hylian> yoshi435: nor problem. :) try #ubuntu-jp and see if anyone can help you first, if not come back and I will try
[01:05] <chaosbringer> anyone?
[01:05] <yoshi435> can you speak japanese?
[01:06] <sam113101> chaosbringer: use the rvm website
[01:06] <hylian> yoshi435: no, sorry. I speak english only.
[01:06] <yoshi435> yes.
[01:06] <sam113101> we all love you yoshi-san ;3
[01:06] <hylian> chaosbringer: you could try apt-cache search ruby rvm  and see what it spits back at you, could be you mis named the package
[01:08] <alfonsojon> Hi
[01:08] <yoshi435> Hi
[01:08] <hylian> yoshi435: ヨッシーは、irc.freenode.org IRCチャンネル"＃のubuntu-JP"にアクセスしてください。あなたのIRCクライアントを使用する方法を知っていますか？
[01:08] <yoshi435> しましたが
[01:08] <alfonsojon> I'm on Xubuntu 13.10, and the volume indicator isn't indicating that I have any sound devices.
[01:08] <yoshi435> I try again
[01:09] <fitnerd> well it sounds like a good idea to boot CD.. I have set the CD to be mapped to a 12.04 server.iso but I can't find any way to make it boot off of it.  It always boots off the virtual hd.  Is there no way to tell grub to bypass this mount?  I have tried adding 'single' to the end of the 'kernel' line and that doesn't seem to work.
[01:10] <hylian> fitnerd: i will take a look, gotta dig some, brb
[01:10] <fitnerd> hylian: thx
[01:12] <vimes> damn 120 gb HDD
[01:12] <vimes> recovery says it takes 85 hours
[01:12] <vimes> oh great
[01:12] <vimes> I need ,,5 pictures
[01:12] <vimes> any one know a way to get photorec to only recover ..photoes_
[01:15] <awwyissssss> @fitnerd http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2011654
[01:16] <fitnerd> awwyissssss: Thank you!
[01:16] <compex> hello
[01:16] <compex> my sd card won't mount
[01:16] <compex> can someone help?
[01:17] <hylian> fitnerd: "All versions of VMware (Workstation, Server and ESX) offer the ability to mount ISO files and use them in virtual machines." http://www.petri.co.il/use-iso-image-files-vmware.htm This link should hopefully get you started
[01:17] <compex> It seems to be an ongoing issue. I have avoided it until now but I would like to get it fixed now
[01:17] <hylian> awwyissssss: thanks for helping fitnerd. ;)
[01:17] <fitnerd> hylian: Thanks.  I can use the ISO, the key was changing the boot order
[01:18] <hylian> fitnerd: awesome. now.. do you know how to change grub?
[01:19] <fitnerd> hylian: yes, but not sure I need to.  I can edit the fstab and take out those mounts now
[01:20] <hylian> fitnerd: that'e even better.
[01:21] <hylian> i see why yoshi came here, there's no one responding at #ubuntu-jp
[01:21] <compex> hello?
[01:21] <compex> does anyone else not have sd card mounting issues?
[01:22] <hylian> compex: not here. I am running Xubuntu 12.04 lts.
[01:22] <jboii> hi
[01:22] <hylian> jboii: hello
[01:23] <jboii> i managed to fix packages in ubuntu
[01:23] <compex> hylian - I have always had sd card issues..
[01:23] <jboii> issue is , the red sign is still on the panel
[01:23] <chaosbringer> hylian, the search came back with nothing
[01:23] <bwayne> compex: does anything at all happen when you plug in the sd card?
[01:24] <hylian> compex: i dont know what to tell you. I own a cheapy compaq presario cq57, and run very simple xubuntu. never had a problem using the cheapy built in reader for my 2 cards..
[01:24] <jboii> i cannot download sources like i could before i had issues
[01:24] <hylian> compex: i see it on thunar, so yes
[01:24] <jboii> how can i fix this , so the system is recognizing that there are correct packages installed?
[01:25] <hylian> jboii: what exactly is it saying? use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if it's more than one line
[01:25] <compex> bwayne - no, nothing happens. The issue is known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/995743
[01:25] <compex> As I understand, it is not limited to Dell XPS, though
[01:25] <hylian> compex: my card reader is probably so very generic that it's why i have no issues.
[01:26] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6169369/
[01:26] <jboii> can you help me fix this?
[01:26] <hylian> jboii: ok ill take a look, brb
[01:26] <compex> I doubt it'll help, but I'll install thunar
[01:28] <bwayne> compex: did you read the comments ?
[01:28] <hylian> jboii: follow these steps, and if you have any questions, come back here and we will work on it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96967/how-do-i-fix-this-etype-is-not-known-on-line-in-source-list-update
[01:29] <hylian> jboii: wait, sudo is the issue...
[01:29] <compex> bwayne - yes. Unfortunately the rescan command they specify as a workaround does not work
[01:29] <hylian> jboii: i would try and fix it first if you can...
[01:30] <jboii> tell me what to do
[01:31] <hylian> jboii: folloe the instructions here for removing sudo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96967/how-do-i-fix-this-etype-is-not-known-on-line-in-source-list-update and then use synaptic or ubuntu software center to re-install it
[01:31] <ers> f'
[01:31] <bwayne> compex: ah. maybe it'll get fixed in a kernel release sometime.
[01:32] <compex> bwayne - well that sucks. So I have to boot in windows everytime I want to use the SD card...
[01:32] <jboii> how do i locate the file i have issues with?
[01:33] <hylian> jboii: it should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <compex> bwayne - #linux and #linuxmint have nothing for me either it seems
[01:33] <bwayne> compex: yeah. they won't if it's a kernel issue.
[01:33] <hylian> jboii: it's a text file
[01:33] <jboii> its empty
[01:33] <jboii> is that correct?
[01:34] <hylian> jboii: no, there should be info in there...
[01:34] <jboii> mines empty
[01:35] <bwayne> compex: you tried comment #23?
[01:35] <spacecase> I'm running Kubuntu, but may be interested in trying out gnome 3.10, however I need to be able to uninstall gnome and all the apps that come with it when I'm done
[01:35] <Retroballa> hey guys, I hope this is a question you guys can answer. If not, I understand. My issue is I use winconn which uses freerdp to launch windows apps like microsoft outlook. But when I load it, I see it for a second or two, then it minimizes. I read there is a way to stop this, but I havn't figured out a way. I am using cinnamon desktop.
[01:36] <Hathadar> The screen on my ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS desktop suddenly went black.  It didn't crash as I was able to use hotkeys to open a terminal and issue a reboot.  The screen was normal up until I logged in and then it went black again.  I was doing regular web surfing at the time.
[01:36] <hylian> jboii: that error shows there is atleast 57 lines of text in that file, so something is wrong... it listed the damage on lone 57. you most likely entered the wrong data , and your editor opened a blank file
[01:36] <compex> bwayne - we'll find out as soon as I reboot. wish me luck
[01:36] <Hathadar> Can someone help me recover my screen?
[01:37] <hylian> jboii: try gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal...
[01:38] <bwayne> Hathadar: has your screen frozen and you're on a TTY?
[01:38] <Hathadar> tty?
[01:38] <hylian> jboii: this is what my sources.list looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6169401/
[01:39] <Hathadar> Screen is not frozen, it has just gone black.
[01:39] <jboii> that worked
[01:40] <hylian> jboii: alrighty! that's great
[01:40] <compex> well that didn't work
[01:40] <bwayne> Hathadar: press <ctrl><alt>F1 to get to a TTY. login. sudo service lightdm restart
[01:40] <hylian> compex: sorry man...
[01:40] <compex> yep.. ah well.
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: well, it was worth a shot. some things are hit or miss with hardware.
[01:41] <compex> I think I'll get an SD card to USB adapter or something
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: that's what I'd do
[01:41] <jboii> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys CD30EE56
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: the easy way :)
[01:41] <jboii> should i delete this than?
[01:41] <hylian> compex: there has to be an answer. this piece of crap doesn't have that issue. your dell is by far better quality. i'd be curoius to see if a generic sd card reader in a usb slot would have some luck, it could be a hardware vs driver issue..
[01:42] <bruno00> if i install kde after installing ubuntu will i be able to access the programs i have already installed
[01:42] <hylian> jboii: that's line 57?
[01:42] <bruno00> i might not even doing that now i'm becoming fond of gnome
[01:42] <daftykins> bruno00: of course
[01:43] <compex> It's a hit and miss. I have had laptops where the card reader works perfectly, and I have had several, like this one, where it mounts if it feels like it
[01:43] <bruno00> daftykins: sweet. thank you
[01:44] <jboii> yes
[01:44] <jboii> and i deleted it
[01:44] <jboii> and saved
[01:44] <hylian> compex: right, i simply meant that if a simple generic worked, it would give you a heads up for diagnosing the issue. if you knew someone that had one, borrowing it could give you some useful insight. if it worked, you would know it's issue is specifically your hardware, and the lack of support/driver for that card reader. it would be useful diagnostically.
[01:44] <hylian> jboii: um... i hope you backed up your old sources.list
[01:45] <compex> hylian - Hang on, I might have one lying around :P
[01:45] <jboii> no
[01:45] <jboii> i deleted 57 only
[01:46] <hylian> jboii: might be a good idea, just in case.
[01:46] <jboii> how ?
[01:46] <hylian> jboii: i am just always very cautious.. history has taught me to be this way
[01:47] <jboii> now it works
[01:47] <jboii> thank you
[01:47] <hylian> jboii: never mind, this is redundant. ubuntu backs it up in case we goof it up. we are safe
[01:48] <hylian> jboii: i'm glad to hear it
[01:48] <daftykins> and with that, he left
[01:48] <daftykins> 0o
[01:49] <hylian> well issue was solved, that's cool
[01:49] <daftykins> yeah :)
[01:51] <hylian> daftykins: this is my video game. i love diggin and finding the answer.
[01:52] <Retroballa> I'm trying to find the setting to prevent a freeRDP from minimizing a program when I launch it. I have outlook loaded on my Windows 7 Virtualbox setup. I use winconn to access that program which loads it via freeRDP. It appears to load, then I see outlook come up then it minimizes with no way to bring it up. I heard there is a way in cinnamon to uncheck an option not to minimize but I can't
[01:52] <Retroballa> find out where.
[01:53] <hylian> Retroballa: wow, i don't even know where to begin... let me do some digging...
[01:54] <daftykins> hylian: yeah i help here too
[01:54] <hylian> Retroballa: so if you use alt-tab, it still doesn't cycle to it?
[01:55] <hylian> daftykins: glad to hear it, we can use all the help we can get. :)
[01:56] <chaosbringer> hylian : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9056008/installed-ruby-1-9-3-with-rvm-but-command-line-doesnt-show-ruby-v/9056395#9056395 <-- that's what was wrong
[01:56] <chaosbringer> Thanks!
[01:56] <hylian> chaosbringer: glad to hear it, you where more on the ball than I was.
[01:57] <hylian> sorry Retroballa i gotta go
[01:57] <deckard_> does anyone experience slow shutdowns?
[01:58] <Drakeson> HELLO.  HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS LOCK IN UBUNTU 13.10? (SORRY FOR ALL CAPS).
[01:58] <Retroballa> no. I run phpvirtualbox so the virtualmachine runs in the background. It allows me to run a windows program in virtualbox without actually having virutalbox opened
[01:58] <Random832> Drakeson: does pressing the caps lock button not work?
[01:58] <J_Private> Usually caps lock button
[01:59] <Drakeson> no, it does not. (holding shift now, very awkward typing this way).
[02:00] <Drakeson> the setting seems gone
[02:00] <tgm4883> I'm not aware of any setting for caps lock
[02:00] <J_Private> Try a different keyboard
[02:01] <Drakeson> did the layout setting change in 13.10? it does not offer the regular xkb settings
[02:01] <Drakeson> (keyboard layout setting, i mean)
[02:01] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1
[02:02] <Retroballa> I don't now if it's because i Run two screens that my freerdp program are minimizing or what
[02:03] <yoshi435> Hi
[02:05] <Drakeson> what is the command for choosing the xkb option? (there was one beside xmodmap, which i dont remember)
[02:06] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1 | Drakeson
[02:06] <tgm4883> Drakeson, you need to go there for 13.10 support
[02:06] <yoshi435> You can not be made to bridge br0 to the wlan0
[02:06] <Retroballa> alt-tab does not bring up word in my freeRDP sesstion. Pretty much for for any program I try to launch.
[02:06] <Retroballa> here is my issue https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/issues/155 but I can't find where to uncheck that option they mentioned
[02:07] <Drakeson> tgm4883: thanks, i heard the first time, and asked there, too :)  the xkb command is obviously universal (applies to ancient distros, too).
[02:09] <Titanium> when I isntall ubuntu with an ATI graphics card, is there some extra steps I need to do, it comes up with this error screen abotu my GPU not working and it has to run in low graphics mode or use cli
[02:13] <Drakeson> For the record, found it (setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps, for instance)...
[02:15] <Drakeson> Titanium: Depends on the card.  Support for older card (say older than 6-12 months) are usually there "out of the box".
[02:15] <Drakeson> and for that you don't even need fglrx.  The open source mainstream drivers (radeon, radeonhd) usually include that.
[02:16] <Drakeson> You might need to install linux non free firmware, though.
[02:16] <Titanium> Drakeson http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105007
[02:16] <Drakeson> Sorry, I am not sure what is the new and current chipset. You can get yours using "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:17] <Titanium> does ubuntu not enable ssh by default?
[02:18] <Drakeson> that, and also by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log (see if you see any obvious errors)
[02:18] <tsimpson> Titanium: outgoing yes, incoming no
[02:18] <Titanium> that is stupid
[02:19] <Drakeson> Titanium: yes, you can install openssh-server
[02:19] <tsimpson> no, the opposite would be stupid
[02:19] <Titanium> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy
[02:19] <Titanium> 'just works' kinda thing
[02:19] <tsimpson> Titanium: it also don't enable httpd by default, is this a problem?
[02:20] <demonspork> I am mounting a share with CIFS on my Ubuntu box, but only one user seems to get permissions to read/write it at a time. How do I get all users to have full read/write access to the share at the same time?
[02:20] <Drakeson> Titanium: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" is easy.  Also not needing to worry about people ssh'ing into your laptop if you have a simple password is intentional (for a large number of users).
[02:21] <Drakeson> Titanium: for ati drivers, you might need the following package: "linux-firmware-nonfree"
[02:24] <jrib> tsimpson: well it's a matter of enabling ssh (by installing a package) if it's a service you want
[02:24] <tsimpson> jrib: I know, I wasn't the one complaining about it ;)
[02:24] <Drakeson> Titanium: actually, scrap the previous suggestion, linux-firmware-nonfree does not seem to have any radeon binaries anymore (at least not in 13.10).  Let me know if you want to know how to check and see the binary...
[02:26] <jrib> tsimpson: sadly, you've broken my rule of only having one active person per letter of the alphabet
[02:27] <Drakeson> jrib: And you have broken the general (or maybe canadian?) rule of saying sorry when you make a mistake!
[02:28] <jrib> Drakeson: it was a joke :)
[02:28] <Drakeson> Yup, me too :)
[02:34] <yoshi435> Hi
[02:35] <Drakeson> Hi
[02:35] <Drakeson> that was fast
[02:39] <yoshi435> hi
[02:43] <Wug> I have a question.
[02:43] <eppa> 'lo all, I have to boot a NAS from a DOM device that’s 128MB…that’s not going to be big enough for /boot is it?
[02:43] <Wug> Say I want to process a file, and extract from it a list of strings
[02:43] <Wug> grep seems to be less than ideal
[02:43] <Wug> first of all, grep -P doesn't support lookbehinds
[02:43] <Wug> or at least, mine doesn't.
[02:44] <mrrcp> whats a good firewall for ubuntu
[02:44] <Q78949> @Wug: what do you meaan?
[02:44] <Wug> Say I have a line in irc out of my logs.
[02:44] <jrib> Wug: what's your actual question (in one line)?
[02:44] <Q78949> @mrrcp: try UFW
[02:44] <Wug> like this one: [22:06:12] <mJXjCS> This is some text.
[02:44] <Wug> I need to extract just the nickname
[02:44] <Wug> no leading or trailing stuff
[02:44] <jrib> Wug: stop pressing enter and just ask your actual question
[02:45] <Q78949> Wug: not sure what you mean
[02:45] <mrrcp> !ufw
[02:45] <Wug> Q78949: "mJXjCS" is the nickname. I need just the nickname, none of the rest of the line
[02:45] <Q78949> mrrcp: yeah just man ufw
[02:46] <Wug> This regex looks like it should work: '[^>]*(?=>)(?<=<)'
[02:46] <Wug> Except that grep -P doesn't like the lookbehind. if I remove it, I get '[22:06:12] <mJXjCS' like I expect
[02:46] <Q78949> Wug: you are grepping a file to pull a specific name out?
[02:47] <Wug> no, I'm grepping for other things, and I need to get the name.
[02:47] <jrib> Wug: use grep and parse out the <> afterwards or use sed or use awk
[02:47] <Q78949> Wug: yeah, what jrib said, get the info the sparse it out
[02:48] <Wug> is there really no linux tool that supports regex groups?  if there was one I could just use that and it would require half the processes
[02:48] <jrib> Wug: sed...
[02:48] <varunendra> Wug, "sed 's:.*\(mJXjCS\).*:\1:' > output file.
[02:49] <chexxor_netbook> I used apt-get to install "zsh-doc" package. How do I learn how to use it?
[02:49] <Wug> varunendra: it might not be mJXjCS. I don't know what it is. I found the line with an indirect search
[02:49] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: dpkg -L zsh-doc will show you what got installed
[02:49] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: I'll take a look, brb.
[02:49] <Q78949> @chexxor_netbook: man zsh-doc
[02:49] <varunendra> Wug, probably #bash would be best place to ask for help on this.
[02:49] <jrib> Wug: what he said should still give you the idea.  You can use groups and references like in his example
[02:50] <jrib> Wug: something like 's/<\(.*\)>/\1/
[02:50] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: ah, looks like they went to /usr/share/doc
[02:50] <Wug> jrib: I think I can work with that. thanks
[02:50] <chexxor_netbook> man zsh-doc has no entry
[02:51] <mrrcp> what about virus protection etc?  is it needed on ubuntu?>
[02:51] <Q78949> chexxor_netbook: thats weird
[02:51] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: thanks! Are dpkg and apt utils different projects? Where are they related?
[02:51] <jrib> Wug: if you need something more complete/powerful then use perl, python, or any other language with a decent regex library :)
[02:51] <mrrcp> !virus
[02:51] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: apt uses dpkg to install packages, but apt takes care to handle dependencies
[02:52] <Q78949> mrrcp: I wouldn't worry abotu ti
[02:52] <Q78949> it*
[02:52] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: ah, I see.
[02:54] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: slick! I didn't know this /usr/share/doc/ convention existed. Most packages have an entry here?
[02:54] <Wug> jrib: I don't suppose you know why sed does not accept \d for a digit?
[02:54] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: yes, and you'll find some notes from the maintainer usually in PACKAGE/README.Debian
[02:55] <jrib> Wug: you might need to pass some option to it
[02:55] <Wug> yeah, im searching but not seeing anything
[02:56] <jrib> Wug: if you just want it to work, use [0-9].  I don't remember if it supports \d somehow
[02:56] <Wug> yeah I know, I was just hoping I could do it without adding a bunch of [0-9]s
[02:57] <jrib> Wug: not sure where you are checking but http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/sed.html might be more helpful than the man page
[02:57] <chexxor_netbook> jrib thanks again. I'm going to play around with this a bit.
[02:57] <Wug> I was reading the man page
[02:59] <mrrcp> so does anyone know of a site that points out all the methods to secure your ubuntu setup?
[02:59] <mrrcp> for like a everyday laptop
[03:01] <Q78949> mrrcp: I would just turn on the firewall and block all inbound
[03:01] <Q78949> mrrcp: You can always do a network scan if you really want to test it.
[03:02] <mrrcp> so sshd isnt installed by default?
[03:02] <mrrcp> or sftp
[03:03] <Q78949> mrrcp: doesn't really matter
[03:03] <mrrcp> why not
[03:03] <Q78949> mrrcp: the firewall will block incoming connections for everything
[03:03] <mrrcp> true
[03:04] <mrrcp> but wouldnt be safer to disable unused services
[03:05] <mrrcp> ahh
[03:05] <mrrcp> nevermind it isnt installed
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp: sure I guess
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp: sudo ufw status verbose
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp run that for the full  info
[03:06] <mrrcp> ok thanks
[03:06] <Q78949> should tell you the status if incoming and outgoing connections
[03:06] <mrrcp> inbound deny - out allow
[03:06] <mrrcp> all good
[03:07] <Q78949> cool
[03:07] <jrib> Wug: by the way, if you want grep: echo foo '<bar>' cat | grep -Po '(?<=<).+(?=>)'
[03:07] <mrrcp> gotta love linux
[03:08] <Q78949> yep definitely do
[03:08] <Wug> jrib: I'd rather not grep twice
[03:08] <jrib> Wug: hmm, why would you have to grep twice?
[03:09] <Wug> I know I can make it work by birthing an unholy chain of greps and seds
[03:09] <Wug> I asked because I wanted to be better than that.
[03:17] <Criten> Does anyone here use the Solorized theme for terminal?
[03:33] <david__> I would like to learn php but someone told me that I should install LAMP over XAMPP
[03:33] <david__> would someone be able to help me with this?
[03:34] <zhee_sharp> david__ : just download it from LAMPP official site and extract it
[03:34] <zhee_sharp> run apache and mysql from extracted LAMPP archive
[03:34] <ubuntutis> i need help how can i install jdownloader from a sh file
[03:35] <zhee_sharp> ubuntutis : just try this command "sudo sh filename.sh"
[03:35] <zhee_sharp> ubuntutis: (without quotes)
[03:37] <daftykins> zhee_sharp: i don't like the advice you're giving, it's unsafe
[03:38] <daftykins> you shouldn't sudo all_the_things
[03:39] <zhee_sharp> daftykins: yeah, i'm sorry ... you're right ... :D
[03:40] <zhee_sharp> daftykins:  just a bit bad habbit of me, i should've corrected it .... :D
[03:41] <zhee_sharp> daftykins: Thanks, for your advice
[03:42]  * daftykins pats zhee_sharp
[03:42] <King09x> Hello, I need a little help installing VirtualBox. I've been fighting with it for a couple hours now.
[03:44] <daftykins> King09x: can you describe what happens?
[03:44] <King09x> It keeps telling me that it can't find my kernel headers, but when I run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" it tells me that the package doesnt exist.
[03:44] <Anonymous> hello
[03:44] <Anonymous> what's up people?
[03:48] <King09x> daftykins: I don't know if another repository would have the headers that I need?
[03:49] <daftykins> King09x: do you have the standard repos selected or an obscure local mirror?
[03:49] <King09x> Uhm, I believe it's just the standard repos
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> King09x, You install dkms?
[03:50] <King09x> wilee-nilee: Yeah, before installing virtualbox
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> King09x, You have stock kernels?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> King09x, this might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75709/how-do-i-install-kernel-header-files
[03:54] <King09x> I've also tried installing from the repo and from the website.
[03:54] <King09x> my header version is: linux-headers-3.5.0-39-generic if that changes anything
[03:55] <PigDude> is there an ubuntu installer that fits on a single CD?
[03:55] <PigDude> i see lubuntu, that's it
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> King09x, this is which release?
[03:55] <PigDude> the minimal installer fits on a cd but doesn't configure my wireless and doesn't have `iwconfig` etc
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> no usb?
[03:56] <King09x> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[03:57] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I also have tried doing what that link says. But it cannot find the package for my headers in the repo.
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> King09x, I figured quantal, so you have the stocl kernels right?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> stock*
[03:58] <King09x> wilee-nilee: yeah, I do.
[03:59] <ubuntutis> i need help i just installed jdownloader and now all the sudden it wont open
[03:59] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I installed just the linux-headers-generic but all that gave me was 3.8.0-31-generic
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> King09x, FRom waht you have shown I can't really tell, can you describe how you are installing and show the errors more specificities/details.
[04:01] <King09x> wilee-nilee: Well I tried just apt-get install virtualbox which gives me this error "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.5.0-39-generic cannot be found.
[04:01] <King09x> Please install the linux-headers-3.5.0-39-generic package,
[04:01] <King09x> or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located
[04:01] <King09x> "
[04:01] <Ahmuck> last update borked my laptop.
[04:01] <treehau55> same here
[04:01] <Ahmuck> no wireless, no mouse, no monitor auto, etc.
[04:01] <treehau55> i started to get a recursive error like this udevd[105]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe
[04:01] <Ahmuck> no hardware support
[04:02] <treehau55> it really seems like now everytime a kernel update is released, I have to go through some long extraneous process of recovering my system, really getting tired of it
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> King09x, I always use the vbox website not sure if that would help, or why you get that error, there is a #vbox channel however. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[04:03] <Ahmuck> it's the ubuntusoft way?
[04:03] <ubuntutis> anybody here know how i could make jdownloader run?
[04:04] <King09x> wilee-nilee, Sadly, Ive uninstalled that a few times too. I'll check out the #vbox channel though. Thanks for the help!
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> King09x, YOu have rebooted since the last kernel update right?
[04:05] <Guest6697> can anyone help me install a new irc client...hexchat?
[04:05] <Guest6697> please
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, Its in a ppa.
[04:06] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I have. I guess I could try uninstalling everything, rebooting, and starting from scratch.
[04:06] <Guest6697> I opened the ppa step #1 step 2 copy and paste something and then fail that is where I am...
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, the ppa's explain how to install in Read about installing
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, you add the ppa run a update then apt-get install hexchat
[04:10] <Guest6697> yeah the add part is where I messed up not sure what I did wrong
[04:11] <chilli-salad> what is a good simple skype alternative that can do simple direct connects to others with the same client?
[04:11] <qin_> Guest6697: history | tail -n 10
[04:11] <treehau55_> chilli-salad: google+ hangouts
[04:11] <qin_> chilli-salad: ekiga
[04:11] <Nosophorus> hello
[04:11] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: you mean file transfers?
[04:12] <Nosophorus> i'm having a problem with thumbnails
[04:12] <david__> okay i have lamp install, now what do I do?
[04:12] <chilli-salad> treehau55_, I want to be independent of corporations. That's why I want direct connections from client-to-client. I just want audio and video chats.
[04:12] <qin_> chilli-salad: What do you mean by direct? How direct?
[04:13] <chilli-salad> qin_, type in a person's IP address then connect to them for video chats
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: then I believe there are resources online on how to set up your own jabber server
[04:13] <chilli-salad> this should be simple, and Ekiga claims to do it, but it's buggy so it's not working for me over VPN.
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: oh, that.
[04:13] <chilli-salad> Ekiga does it fine on LAN but once a VPN is on Ekiga chokes
[04:14] <chilli-salad> Ekiga keeps sending signals out to ALL interfaces, and the client on other end sees things like the LAN address of the other client.
[04:14] <chilli-salad> when client2 should only see the VPN address of client1
[04:15] <chilli-salad> so client1 can send video/audio/text to client2, but client2 tries to send traffic to client1's LAN address. It's funny to watch, but frustrating because independent VOIP isn't working.
[04:15] <\DSAFEW\> I'm looking for a macro program similar to AutoHotkey, there needs to be some kind of simple scripting logic though, not just recording and regurgitating keystrokes.
[04:16] <ubuntutis> s anybody know how i can delete the other jdownloader file that the sh file created?
[04:16] <SchrodingersScat> \DSAFEW\: like bash?
[04:16] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, and I don't want to fuss around with any server or DNS stuff. I just want video/audio chat using direct connections, and to do it over VPN so it's secure. I'd like to try Jitsi next but it uses Java, which has been getting bad reports about security lately.
[04:16] <\DSAFEW\> hah, well I'm looking at avoiding doing a bash script with xte
[04:17] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: so which other software does this?
[04:18] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, as far as I know, only Ekiga does. I'm guessing Jitsi should be able to do it since it can do SIP. But I think there's hardly any program that is capable of actually doing this.
[04:18] <chilli-salad> but I'm still early in my skype alternative, direct connection research project
[04:19] <chilli-salad> tox is up and coming, but it's in beta and who know how long it will be until tox is usable.
[04:19] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: tox is usable
[04:19] <chilli-salad> plus, not everyone wants to use P2P and let the whole world know every IP address that's using tox. I'd rather keep my comms secure on a LAN or VPN sometimes.
[04:20] <david__> i get an error Permission denied when trying to make a php file in var www
[04:20] <david__> what can I do to fix this, im new to linux
[04:20] <\DSAFEW\> add your user to the correct group?
[04:20] <crass> I'm using raring, does anyone know how dnsmasq is getting its nameservers?
[04:21] <\DSAFEW\> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-add-user-to-group-www-data/
[04:21] <david__> dont know much about that, can you explain?
[04:21] <\DSAFEW\> that's probably it david__
[04:21] <SchrodingersScat> I'm a terrible person, and I just change the permissions
[04:21] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, how usable is tox now? Have you tried it?
[04:22] <\DSAFEW\> $sudo usermod -a -G www-data david__
[04:22]  * JohnVonNeumann is away: I'm busy
[04:23] <david__> what does that mean/
[04:23] <david__> ?
[04:23] <\DSAFEW\> david__, if you are wondering what sudo does, or what usermod does, you can google it or enter "man usermod" for instance for the manual
[04:24] <qin_> \DSAFEW\: I do not think his system username is david__
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> gah
[04:24] <\DSAFEW\> well, I figured he would know that
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> I'm trying to theme my ubuntu to look like win7
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> dont ask
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> and I keep getting this error
[04:24] <SchrodingersScat> !enter MangaKaDenza
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> E: Unable to locate package win2-7
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> !return | MangaKaDenza
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> ubottu, shhh
[04:25] <\DSAFEW\> MangaKaDenza, did you add the repo and update it?
[04:26] <MangaKaDenza> yep
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028896/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> I followed everything there
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza>  for the first half
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> I copied word for word
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> MangaKaDenza, 3rd party stuff like this is not supported here, just a heads up. really you are not going to get a true windows look anyway.
[04:28] <\DSAFEW\> so, is the installation giving the error, or is the gsettings set command giving it?
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> I'm not going for true win7
[04:29] <\DSAFEW\> yeah it's going to look like fake windows...
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> just something similar enough
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> \DSAFEW\, the install
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> and the last time I did it w/o installing the win7-2 theme
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> I ended up fucking my ubuntu up
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> !language | MangaKaDenza
[04:30] <MangaKaDenza> I ended up having to reinstall...
[04:30] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: what: lsb_release -r #says?
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> I know this is 13.04
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> but it worked the first time
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> I had to reinstall once cuz I messed up some drivers
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> then reinstall due to the thing not working
[04:31] <crass> is there a more advanced channel for the desktop?
[04:31] <\DSAFEW\> MangaKaDenza, does downloading these give you an error? https://launchpad.net/~upubuntu-com/+archive/gtk3/+sourcepub/2619207/+listing-archive-extra
[04:32] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: So you noticed that linky was tested on 12.10, and you scrolled down to UNDOING THAT MESS part?
[04:33] <MangaKaDenza> I would have wanted to undo the stuff, but I had messed up a lot of other stuff
[04:34] <MangaKaDenza> er, \DSAFEW\ I'm kinda noobish w/ ubuntu/linux, so do I do the ppa thing with the link, or what?
[04:34] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: You are like stabbing victim complaining about a headache on ER...
[04:35] <MangaKaDenza> qin_, not helpful
[04:35] <\DSAFEW\> I was just wondering why the install doesn't work with the correct command, and wanted to point at the manual downloads in case you wanted to manually place them in the correct place
[04:36] <\DSAFEW\> but yeah, if it worked before, I couldn't tell you why it doesn't now
[04:38] <{-r-}> hi everybody
[04:38] <daftykins> hi
[04:38] <{-r-}> how are you
[04:38] <ubuntutis> s anybody know how i can delete the other jdownloader file that the sh file created?
[04:39] <daftykins> good ty, yourself? do you have a question?
[04:39] <qin_> ubuntutis: Do you know where the files are?
[04:39] <MangaKaDenza> YAY
[04:39] <MangaKaDenza> IT WORKS!
[04:40] <{-r-}> I'm doing good and no I just got Ubuntu working yesterday
[04:40] <daftykins> {-r-}: ah ok. this channel is more for support questions, but you're welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:41] <ubuntutis> yeah i used gksudo and moved it to the trash any help
[04:41] <{-r-}> and I have used it in virtual machines before but now it is running on my computer
[04:42] <metaphysician> sorry, got disconnected, say again.
[04:42] <Wug> You can use 'date -d "3 days ago"' to get that date, and 'date -d @123456789' to get the date for a specific timestamp.  How can I combine the two
[04:43] <Wug> I know I could just add 86400 * 3 seconds to my timestamp, but the whole reason the date utility exists is to deal with stupid crap like leap seconds
[04:43] <{-r-}> well i do have one question though I was trying to install torproject and it kept coming up with an error
[04:43] <vinceableworld> Greetings.
[04:45] <noagor> go to torproject.org and download the browser bundle for gnu/Linux. unzip and run
[04:46] <{-r-}> okay thank you
[04:46] <qin_> ubuntutis: in terminal: cd ~/.local/share/Trash/ && ls -l #paste output in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <qin_> Wug: date `date`?
[04:49] <Wug> qin_: what I'm aiming for is something that behaves the way you'd expect 'date -d "@1234567890 plus 2 weeks"' to
[04:49] <ubuntutis> qin all it says is files info
[04:50] <qin_> ubuntutis: all files you want to remove?
[04:50] <ubuntutis> no just files and info
[04:52] <qin_> Wug: date -d "`date`+10 days"
[04:53] <qin_> ubuntutis: Are in the location file you want to remove, or better are in Trash any files you want to keep?
[04:53] <KaLev-> v
[04:54] <Wug> ok. weird that I can't pass a UTC seconds value to that
[04:54] <qin_> Wug: I bet #bash knows
[04:54] <Wug> I guess there's always date -d "$(date -d @1234567890) +1 day"
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> i installed 13.04 64bit on a Targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, system works flawlessly, just when i open dash to search applications desktop freezes sometimes
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> 2 other drivers show up in additional drivers: opendrivers free and non-free
[05:05] <ubuntutis> qin nevermind that can you help me find the jdownloader folder
[05:07] <qin_> ubuntutis: What are you planning to do? locate jdownloader #is one way
[05:07] <ubuntutis> changing the panel icon i found a more suitable icon
[05:10] <tjj> Is it correct that ubuntu has no-reinstall upgrades, no matter what version I'm upgrading from or to?
[05:12] <tozen> tjj: imho tbh better is to install new one then upgrade from to...
[05:13] <subhendu> hi i have a problem with wifi usb and usb camera
[05:14] <subhendu> can anyone pls help me
[05:15] <roland> hi I just deleted postgress then installed postgress 9.2.4 but i cant seem to run it
[05:15] <roland> I think I may have messed up deleting it
[05:15] <tozen> subhendu: what the matter?
[05:16] <AndChat465716> roland: okay
[05:16] <tozen> roland: u need to give more info,please
[05:17] <roland> how do i check if it is installed
[05:18] <tozen> roland: which program_nabe
[05:18] <tozen> roland: which program_name
[05:18] <roland> tozen: when I type  The program 'psql' I get this  can be found in the following packages:  * postgresql-client-common  * postgres-xc-client
[05:18] <AndChat465716> tozen: hey
[05:19] <tozen> AndChat465716: hi
[05:20] <roland> tozen: which postgresql returns nothing
[05:20] <tozen> roland:  how you've tried to install it?
[05:21] <tozen> roland: if nothing means isn't installed, pal
[05:21] <roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make install-world
[05:22] <roland> tozen: It's seemed to be installing
[05:23] <tozen> roland: we have it in ppa ;)
[05:23] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get install postgresql postgresql-contrib
[05:24] <roland> tozen: when ever i do that i git postgresql 9.1
[05:24] <roland> tozen: my Heroku app is in 9.2 so i need it to match
[05:25] <tozen> roland: ok understud
[05:26] <roland> tozen: i think I may have done something bad while trying to delete 9.1
[05:26] <tozen> roland: let's start from begginning so u've installed new one from tar does any errors appeared in process?
[05:27] <tozen> roland: how u've delete it?
[05:27] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:28] <roland> tozen: apt-get purge postgresql*
[05:29] <tozen> roland:  then try this :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql
[05:29] <tozen> sudo apt-get update
[05:29] <tozen> sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2
[05:30] <crass> has anyone used unbound?
[05:31] <Whitehathacker> Any 1 Cite about Ubuntu 13.10 coming out and Most likely faster Kernels?
[05:31] <roland> tozen: Package postgresql-9.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[05:31] <tozen> roland: meyhap u'll libpq-dev installed on the system aswell so:     sudo apt-get install libpq-dev
[05:31] <roland> tozen:E: Package 'postgresql-9.2' has no installation candidate
[05:31] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:32] <gersonjlima> hi!
[05:32] <tozen> roland: hmm...
[05:32] <tozen> roland:  which server do u use?
[05:32] <roland> apache2
[05:33] <tozen> roland: i mean update server
[05:33] <Whitehathacker> Main Server is the best
[05:33] <roland> tozen: sorry I don't understand
[05:33] <tozen> Whitehathacker: aree
[05:33] <Whitehathacker> aree?
[05:33] <roland> tozen: should i update apache2
[05:34] <Whitehathacker> lol
[05:34] <tozen> Whitehathacker: agree LOL
[05:34] <Whitehathacker> awww
[05:35] <tozen> roland: pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:36] <tozen> roland: well smtms u can get installation errors in case of local server usage
[05:36] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:36] <subhendu> please help
[05:36] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/pzFnqqqw
[05:37] <Whitehathacker> whats VLC Minion
[05:37] <subhendu> video lan player
[05:38] <Whitehathacker> oh... ill check it out
[05:38] <Whitehathacker> brb
[05:39] <tozen> roland:  any errors tipind sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get -f install ?
[05:39] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:39] <Whitehathacker> make sure u get all ur Updates to plz they surely help alot with error problems or such
[05:39] <subhendu> pls help
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> subhendu, Rather strange problem, they are not related accept in your claim.
[05:40] <roland> tozen: no they run fine
[05:40] <Whitehathacker> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade..... which will upgrade it all
[05:40] <subhendu> I cannot run cheese also
[05:41] <subhendu> cheese is giving an error
[05:41] <subhendu> (cheese:6633): Gdk-WARNING **: The program 'cheese' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'GLXBadContext'.   (Details: serial 153 error_code 169 request_code 153 minor_code 6)   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.    To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environ
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> i imagine thats going to be hard to troubleshoot.
[05:44] <tozen> roland: well i would suggest to install 9.1 then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:45] <zhee_sharp> Hi all, I have a problem to make automatic script for connecting my modem using modprobe. I can type manually using shell to make my modem recognized by linux. but when I make bash script, that command not run well. finally my modem not recognized using that script. What i have to do ... ? Thanks ...
[05:45] <Whitehathacker> yup i agree with the DR.
[05:46] <roland> tozen: okay just with sudo apt-get install postgresql ?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> i installed 13.04 64bit on a Targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, system works flawlessly, just when i open dash to search applications desktop freezes sometimes
[05:46] <Whitehathacker> Internet Modem?
[05:46] <zhee_sharp> yes cdma modem
[05:46] <tozen> roland: yes
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> zhee_sharp:  make sure your script is using bash and not sh perhaps? make sure its runnign with sudo rights?
[05:48] <Whitehathacker> yup with some computers i get the same problem Lotuspsychje. if u ask me i thank its better to go with 12.04 LTS its more subported
[05:48] <zhee_sharp> Dr_Willis: thank you, i'll try now ....
[05:48] <roland> tozen: 9.1 is now installed. what is the command to upgrade to 9.2?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: 2 other drivers show in additional drivers: open drivers free and non-free, maybe they run better ?
[05:49] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:49] <Whitehathacker> Resent 1 is the best
[05:49] <roland> tozen: done
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: you mean nouveau?
[05:50] <Whitehathacker> BUT Make sure u dont get those 1's that have WARNINGS on them they cause problems to some computers
[05:50] <tozen> roland: so/
[05:50] <tozen> roland: so?
[05:50] <Whitehathacker> like Black screen at start up and no picture
[05:50] <roland> tozen: i still get nothing with "which postgresql"
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: no i just have dash problem, freezing desktop sometimes
[05:51] <roland> psql
[05:51] <Whitehathacker> and havin it reset the desktop and goin blank and reseting goin back to its orginal b4 the freeze?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: after desktop freeze i have to shutdown and reboot, after that it all works normally and fast
[05:52] <tozen> roland: its not a problem try to use
[05:52] <roland> tozen: when i type "psql" i get  "psql: FATAL:  role "roland" does not exist"
[05:52] <Whitehathacker> aww i c
[05:52] <Whitehathacker> whats ur computer Spec's?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: targa laptop, geforce go, nouveau driver 1gig ram 120 hd
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: works flawlessly on firefox and other programs
[05:54] <Whitehathacker> not bad just dont run 100 things at once and u should be fine.
[05:54] <Whitehathacker> lol that was my problem
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: ive post many icons in sidebar, so this users wont have to open dash alot :p
[05:55] <Whitehathacker> aww good idea
[05:55] <roland> tozen: Ive never used a database before. "psql" is the command the Heroku tutorial tells me to run. And it should return: "psql (9.2.4) Type "help" for help. maciek# \q" aparantly
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: tnx for thinking along..
[05:56] <Whitehathacker> But when it Freeses like that just wait it out it out it will fix it self
[05:56] <roland> tozen: well 9.1 in our case
[05:56] <tozen> roland: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15301826/psql-fatal-role-postgres-does-not-exist
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: hmm not sure this freeze will go away, pretty persistent
[05:57] <roland> tozen: thanks
[05:57] <tozen> roland: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=psql%3A+FATAL%3A++role+does+not+exist ;)
[05:57] <Whitehathacker> i Have Zorin 6.4 which is Based on Ubuntu 12.04.3 and it never has that problem
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: well maybe 13.10 upgrade will fix this problem on this system, i just love fastness of 13.04
[05:58] <roland> tozen: so I can't just delete everything and start again with 9.2?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[05:59] <Whitehathacker> oh ya it is fast maybe 13.10 is gonna be even faster XD
[05:59] <tozen> roland: better for now is to start your expirience with psql from documentation reading, mate ;)
[06:01] <tozen> LinuxGuy91: fastness is depence of hardware ;)
[06:02] <tozen> sorry
[06:02] <Whitehathacker> Is Ubuntu 13.10 gonna continue with Kernel's 3.8 or go with a new version?
[06:02] <roland> tozen: I've been on this problem for 2 days. I'm almost ready to reinstall ubuntu. anyway thanks will try to figure it out
[06:03] <tozen> Whitehathacker: like to sort out new kernel bugs?
[06:03] <tozen> roland: u r welcom but i didn't helped u generally
[06:04] <joshlegs> Whitehathacker: im usign 13.10 right now and i'm on kernel 3.11
[06:06] <roland> tozen: are you sure i can't just delete everything. I can't follow that stack overflow thing.
[06:07] <roland> tozen: i can't even login to postgress
[06:09] <roland> tozen:  sudo -u user psql user sudo: "unknown user: user sudo: unable to initialise policy plugin"
[06:10] <tozen> roland:  well what i would do sudo apt-get purge postgresql; sudo apt-get autoclean then you need to remove sources using make uninstall in directory you've installed
[06:11] <tozen> roland: then try to install again from ppa
[06:12] <tozen> roland: have no other ideas, pal
[06:12] <tozen> roland: sorry
[06:13] <roland> tozen: remove sources using make uninstall in directory you've installed <- how do i do that
[06:13] <roland> tozen: it's in eic/postgresql
[06:14] <tozen> roland: in a begginning of discution you said you've tar archive installed in youre system do you?
[06:15] <roland> tozen: sorry, i don't know what that means. tar archive. i don't remember saying that
[06:17] <tozen> roland: that what you said: 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <GrubDoesntInstl> Hi, I am in the process of installation and the installer is telling me it can't install grub to sda or sdb either. What should I do?
[06:17] <tozen> roland:  06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <tozen> 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <tozen> 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <FloodBot1> tozen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <vinceableworld> I just noticed a very interesting anomaly with my wireless connection: When my wi-fi would trail off - looking like it still connected (but never loading a browser page) I then tried to do something with IRC and IRC "found a way thru the pipe" so to speak - then my spotify came back on (letting me know the wi-fi was fully back up).
[06:18] <tozen> roland: 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make
[06:18] <roland> tozen: yeah I did those commands on the tar.gz file.
[06:18] <tozen> roland: today at 6:21
[06:18] <vinceableworld> Hopefully this tells someone something :)
[06:19] <tozen> roland:  sorry for flood guys
[06:19] <GrubDoesntInstl> I also tried the previous measures mentioned here (I am not french either) except for using gparted.
[06:19] <tozen> roland:  and that means you get it installed
[06:19] <GrubDoesntInstl> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11795451#p11795451
[06:19] <roland> tozen: yeah
[06:20] <tozen> roland: so we need to find it in system, ok?
[06:21] <roland> tozen: yeah, there are a bunch of postgres files i can see in /etc
[06:21] <tozen> roland: try to use <locate package_name> or <sudo find / -name packet_name* -print>
[06:22] <tozen> roland: it has to be in your home directory dont delete nothing from /etc for now!
[06:23] <roland> tozen: that returned a really long list i cant even highlight it all for pastebin
[06:24] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/Tj2EG3mE
[06:26] <tozen> roland: use make uninstall in /home/roland/postgresql-9.2.4
[06:26] <tozen> roland:  do you understand how?
[06:27] <roland> tozen: I've installed a second instance of postgres in my home folder?
[06:27] <techgaun> well I can't login to my ubuntu. Keeps on taking me back to login screen after successful login. The ~/.xsession-errors sas BASH_VERSION : parameter not set
[06:28] <tozen> roland: thats what your system says ;)
[06:28] <techgaun> What could be possible solution to this?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis>  techgaun  common iussues causing that.  #1 ive seen  the .Xauthority file is owned by root. or messed up.  try renameing it 0 would be the first thing i would try
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  second most common issue - other config files in .config or the users home  messed up.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  you can also test by making a new test user. and see if they work properlyu
[06:29] <techgaun> Already did something similar to that. But, didn't work. I remember configuring winff
[06:29] <roland> tozen: cool, i did the make uninstall
[06:29] <techgaun> last time and nothing that would mess the config
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  test if a new user works. IF they do. that points to it being a config issue in the problem users home
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> remove/renameing .Xauthority is a quick thing to try
[06:30] <techgaun> the permission with .Xauthority is also fine.
[06:30] <techgaun> well thanks gonna try with new user
[06:30] <roland> tozen: i still get psql: FATAL:  role "roland" does not exist
[06:30] <tozen> roland:  try to install from ppa
[06:30] <us^0gb> Are PPAs only available on the Launchpad platform, or are there other PPA platforms?
[06:30] <roland> tozen: which version?
[06:31] <techgaun> Last time, I had changed terminal option in winff from -e to -x.
[06:31] <techgaun> New user does not work either. Means my system-wide config is messed
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  yep. Does the guest user work?
[06:31] <tozen> roland: it's not a psql problem it's a roles problem i sent you link to read 10 minutes ago ;)
[06:32] <techgaun> that does not work either.
[06:32] <roland> tozen: but i need postgresql 9.2
[06:33] <roland> tozen: am i not now on 9.1?
[06:35] <techgaun> well thanks Dr_Willis. Found the cause. Yesterday I created a file in /etc/profile.d/ which had set -o nounset at the top. It was causing the issue with login. Finally relieved :)
[06:36] <tozen> roland: so just tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql
[06:36] <tozen> sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <tozen> sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2
[06:36] <tozen> its work fine in my system
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  :) Trouble shoooting flowchart works again. ;) I really need to write one up.
[06:37] <tozen> roland: http://pastebin.com/B0NHChqu
[06:38] <roland> tozen: Package postgresql-9.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'postgresql-9.2' has no installation candidate
[06:38] <BlitzHere> I think I'm what's called dependency hell
[06:38] <BlitzHere> I need to install this package
[06:38] <BlitzHere> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/glib-networking-common
[06:39] <BlitzHere> same version
[06:39] <BlitzHere> But I can't
[06:39] <BlitzHere> I'm running raring
[06:39] <BlitzHere> "Reinstallation of glib-networking-common is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[06:39] <tozen> roland: try to use sudo apt-get build-dep <package_name>
[06:40] <techgaun> Yup its always fun to troubleshoot issues and input from good peoples in IRCs always help you to head in right direction :)
[06:40] <BlitzHere> "Version '2.36.1-0ubuntu1' for 'glib-networking-common:i386' was not found"
[06:40] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help? Thanks
[06:40] <roland> tozen: so: sudo apt-get build-dep postgresql-2.9.4 ?
[06:41] <roland> tozen: that doesn't work either. E: Unable to find a source package for postgresql-2.9
[06:44] <tozen> roland: sorry out of ideas
[06:44] <roland> tozen: this may help. the ubuntu software center broke at the same time as all this
[06:45] <roland> tozen: damn. Should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[06:47] <tozen> roland: not sure if u wont we can try to fix it but my opinion is you'll spend much more time then reinstall fresh one (this way will nog give you experience but i cannot spend days with you ;) )
[06:48] <okada> ola
[06:48] <okada> ola
[06:48] <xmetal> i have found that with other OS's (guess which company's :P ) ... spend 2 weeks troubleshooting -vs- one week (assuming i didn't have a drive image to restore) reinstalling the OS
[06:49] <roland> tozen: okay thanks for your help. I'll reinstall ubuntu
[06:49] <xmetal> (ok the time tables i just used may be off, but you get the idea :P )
[06:49] <tozen> roland: what <grep postgresql /var/lib/dpkg/status> sais?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> it definatly can take me several days to get a windows sytem totally reinstalled back to the state i need. ;)
[06:49] <okada> algum fala portugues
[06:50] <IdleOne> !pt | okada
[06:50] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/MELGGxik
[06:51] <okada> eu tenho pouco tempo ke instalei o ubuntu
[06:51] <xmetal> thats why drive images are handy
[06:52] <xmetal> :)
[06:52] <okada> ainda nao manjo nada
[06:52] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get install libpq-dev ??
[06:52] <IdleOne> okada: faça /join #ubuntu-br
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> i found it easiuer to just make a script that sets up my linux box how i want. :) enable ppa's instgall stuff. wget whatever i need.  tweak the configs..\
[06:52] <helmut_> hi
[06:53] <roland> tozen: still no installation candidate
[06:53] <xmetal> :) @ my dvd recorder still huming along
[06:55] <okada> ola
[06:56] <okada> ola
[06:56] <tozen> roland: this what i found on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
[06:56] <okada> vc tcl de onde
[06:57] <tozen> roland: there is no rarring support o_O
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> okada: espanol?
[06:57] <tozen> roland: i'm on 12.04
[06:58] <okada> japao  mas portugues
[06:58] <tozen> roland: thats why i get and you dont
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> ah ok
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> !portuguese
[06:58] <Firefishe> Is there a way to enable -- user_xattr --while using a live dvd?
[06:58] <roland> tozen: oh so it won't work for my version of ubuntu?
[06:58] <tozen> roland: seems like (imho)
[06:59] <okada> digito aonde isto
[06:59] <dry[1]> hi. Gedit is needlessly printing a directory of files. How to get rid of this useless line? More details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177416
[06:59] <okada> por favor digito a onde isto
[07:00] <okada> primeira ves ke uso linux
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> okada: o que e 'ves ke uso linux'?
[07:01] <roland> tozen: okay, ill try to fix my 9.1 and change heroku to run 9.1 ... thank you.
[07:01] <okada> 1 vez
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> okada: ok
[07:03] <tozen> roland: u r welcome
[07:03] <okada> vc tecla de onde
[07:03] <okada> eu do japao
[07:03] <Firefishe> Is there some way of using netflix-desktop on a live dvd?
[07:04] <tozen> !es
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> okada: tecla para?
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> tozen: already tried that with the portuguese chan
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> tozen: he/she is asking for a key to something
[07:05] <okada> voce de ke pais
[07:05] <c0p3rn1c> does anyone know a command to list files of your network drive with 1 command?
[07:05] <c0p3rn1c> (bash)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> c0p3rn1c:  by network drive? you mean a samba share?
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> okada: inglaterra
[07:06] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: "ls"
[07:06] <c0p3rn1c> Dr_Willis, yes
[07:06] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  ls /directory/where/network/drive/mounted ???
[07:06] <okada> nossa longe
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> check the samba docs (samba-doc package) i recall there being a lot of cli commands that people rarely hear about
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> not 1 command
[07:07] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: ls is 1 command
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> when you need to mount it first
[07:07] <okada> mas e portugues  ou brasileiro
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if smbclient can do that or not
[07:07] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: oh, you've not mounted it then
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> ikonia, nope :)
[07:08] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  Oh, I see.  Might possibly have to use fdisk or gparted to find it.  I'm not sure.
[07:08] <ikonia> smbclicent -c
[07:08] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  Sorry.
[07:08] <c0p3rn1c> Dr_Willis, thx i'll be sure to check that out
[07:08] <okada> eu sou filho de japones nascido no brazil
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: no you wouldn't use fdisk to list files, or gparted
[07:08] <okada> mas moro no japao
[07:08] <Firefishe> ikonia:  No, but you could find the partition, and go from there.
[07:08] <c0p3rn1c> Firefishe, thx anyways
[07:08] <Firefishe> np
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: it's a network share
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: not a local disk,
[07:09] <Firefishe> ikonia: ... oh... *doh* <eats poisoned pork rinds>
[07:09] <Firefishe> ;)
[07:09] <tozen> aeon-ltd: doesen't matter what she/he asks here is no answer on this lang, pal ;)
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> okada: voce precisar de ajuda com ubuntu?
[07:10] <okada> sim
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> okada: para que?
[07:10] <okada> se puder me ajudar  agradeco
[07:10] <akaWolf> hello
[07:11] <akaWolf> sudo alsa force-reload
[07:11] <akaWolf> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[07:11] <akaWolf> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[07:11] <akaWolf> please, help me.. I'm not hear sound...
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> okada: ok o que voce precisa de ajuda com?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: have you checked alsamixer?
[07:12] <okada> um aplicativo para criar calendarios e depois imprimir
[07:12] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yes. file with this name not exist...
[07:12] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: error...
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: you can't launch alsamixer?
[07:13] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yup
[07:13] <okada> e um aplicativo para copiar dvd  que cossiga passar pela trava
[07:14] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: "dmesg|grep -i snd" -- empty...
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> okada: para dvd - handbrak + libcss
[07:15] <okada> ok
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> okada: *handbrake
[07:16] <okada> isso acha  na central do ubuntu
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: have you got alsa-utils installed?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> been using acidrip to rip dvd's lately
[07:16] <Ben64> akaWolf: pastebin "lspci | grep -i audio"
[07:16] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yes
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> but  i Definatly do have some DVD's with new-fangled protection that i cant find any linux apps that can rip them. (i cant egven play them on windows, or linux)
[07:17] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: Brave?
[07:17] <akaWolf> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/0htCpaCx
[07:17] <Calinou> it's definitely, not definatly :)
[07:17] <Calinou> same for compatible, proprietary...
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: well my plan was to get into alsamixer and see what soundcards you could select from, sorry but i don't have any more ideas than that other than reinstalling stuff
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  Brave? never heard of it.. wife got some DVDs last few months with new fangled protection.. and they are not 'new' by any mean. (old tv shows, like Love Boat Season 1) but they have the new protection that make them only play in her Blueray Player. Her DVD player cant play them
[07:18] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: thanks for try to help :)
[07:19] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: just curious, i have a standalone disc checker unit that i use, and it fails all the time on the movie Brave, its not scratched or anything, might be new copy protection
[07:19] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: looks like my kernel not support sound...
[07:19] <Ben64> akaWolf: it should be.... http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/sound/sound:HaswellHDAudioController/
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  yep. Only thing ive seen work for them (to rip or play) is to use 'dvdfab' in wine, or windows.
[07:20] <akaWolf> Ben64: yeah, befor it works...
[07:20] <akaWolf> e
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  and even then. dvdfab couldwent handle some of them. But that was a few months back
[07:20] <Ben64> akaWolf: before what
[07:20] <akaWolf> Ben64: yestarday I installed the oss-base
[07:21] <Ben64> akaWolf: what exactly did you do
[07:21]  * NeverHere is not that familiar with cron jobs, and was wondering if someone could help set up some basic ones on startup...
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> !cron
[07:22] <akaWolf> Ben64: just apt-get install oss4-base
[07:22] <akaWolf> Ben64: and nothing else..
[07:22] <Braden`> Hello
[07:22] <Braden`> What is the package name for Gnome 2?
[07:22] <Ben64> gnome 2 is dead
[07:22] <Braden`> Ah
[07:23] <Braden`> How do I use the 2d ver of Gnome 3?
[07:23] <Ben64> akaWolf: you sure you didn't do something like purge pulseaudio
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> Braden`: if you really want something gnome2 like cinnamon has a ppa
[07:23] <Ben64> Braden`: you should be able to select it at the login screen
[07:23] <Calinou> there is none, Braden`
[07:23] <akaWolf> Ben64: shure, ofc.
[07:23] <Ben64> cinnamon is not a good solution
[07:23] <Calinou> mate is also dead
[07:24] <Calinou> I suggest xfce if you want something close to gnome :P
[07:24] <Ben64> wait... cinnamon is the good one, mate is the bad one
[07:24] <Ben64> i always mix them up
[07:24] <Calinou> cinnamon is still based on gnome 3
[07:24] <Braden`> Which one has the "Applications" list that is a drop-down menu from the top where the icons are on the left of each dropdown and the menu system cascades?
[07:24] <Ben64> ok, then cinnamon is in the repos
[07:24] <Ben64> !info cinnamon
[07:24] <Calinou> Ben64: both xfce and cinnamon :P
[07:26] <akaWolf> but why "dmesg|grep -i snd" is empty?
[07:27] <akaWolf> something changes in the my kernel?
[07:27] <Braden`> The one where the top bar looks like this:  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Sabayon_Linux_5.0_Gnome_Screenshot.png
[07:27] <Calinou> this is gnome 2
[07:27] <Calinou> xfce can be set to be quite close to gnome 2
[07:27] <Calinou> but by default it doesn't look the same
[07:28] <Braden`> Where is the gnome 2 package?
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> !gnome2
[07:28] <Braden`> !otunity
[07:28] <Braden`> !notunity
[07:28] <Braden`> gnome-panel
[07:28] <Braden`> That is what I want
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> gnome shells latet version has a nice gnome-2-ish  mode - thats  nice
[07:29] <Braden`> Dr_Willis:  How do I activate that?
[07:29] <Braden`> I have the gnome-shell package installed already
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Braden`:  im on 13.10 its some packagte in the repos. i forget the name.
[07:29] <Ben64> !info gnome-fallback
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> it not in the earlier gnome-shjell versions
[07:29] <mizumaru> hi guys
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> 3.8+ i belive has it
[07:30] <Ben64> on 12.04 you can just install gnome-panel and it will pull in what it needs for it
[07:30] <Ben64> !info gnome-panel
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> theres to many differnt gnome-2 lookalike modes ;) none are identical to gnome-2 heh
[07:31] <Ben64> mine is pretty much identical to gnome 2
[07:31] <eer> Is there an Ubuntu for tablet PCs? I don't trust google Android.
[07:31] <Braden`> I just want a low footprint GUI
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> i imagine gnome-shells mode will be come the 'standard' way   once the disrtos start comming with 3.8+ of gnome shell
[07:31] <InFlames> anyone having trouble with the netflix-desktop app and/or pipelight? both are giving me trouble, but the netflix-desktop app used to work
[07:31] <Ben64> !touch | eer
[07:31] <Braden`> That doesn't take over my screen when I click something
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> eer: are you serious? the kernel is near identical
[07:31] <Braden`> Unity is fine if I am wanting flashy thingamabobs, but I want something simple for my dev machine
[07:32] <Braden`> Installing gnome-panel
[07:32] <eer> aeon-ltd, Android is not open source and Android transmits all kinds of passwords secretly to US server, WLAN, etc.
[07:32] <InFlames> eer, that's my beef with it as well
[07:32] <eer> not fully open source
[07:32] <InFlames> it flies in the face of true open source
[07:33] <eer> thx for the link to Touch
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> eer: you talking about the recent wifi password thing?
[07:33] <rypervenche> eer: SailfishOS :)
[07:33] <eer> about anything. google is a CIA front. period
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fud
[07:33] <InFlames> that is a bit extreme...
[07:34] <Ben64> also offtopic
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> eer: don't you mean nsa?
[07:34] <eer> Sorry, didn't want to start a discussion about Android. I won't use it. period. Thx for the link to the Ubuntu Touch page. CU
[07:34] <akaWolf> can everyone help me, pls?
[07:34] <InFlames> ben64, you use netflix on ubuntu? i need some help :[
[07:34] <Ben64> nope, sorry
[07:34] <InFlames> akaWolf, what's the problem
[07:35] <InFlames> Ben64, was worth a shot, anyone you think who could?
[07:35] <akaWolf> InFlames: "dmesg|grep -i snd" is empty
[07:35] <InFlames> akaWolf, by the fact that it isn't empty on my system, i'm going to assume that's a problem...
[07:35] <InFlames> this is for sound i take it?
[07:35] <akaWolf> InFlames: yep
[07:36] <InFlames> so basically you have no sound
[07:36] <akaWolf> yes! :)
[07:36] <InFlames> so you thinking a driver issue i guess?
[07:36] <sc99nicolaus> @irc.openjoke.org
[07:36] <InFlames> what sound card?
[07:36] <akaWolf> InFlames: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/sound/sound:HaswellHDAudioController/
[07:36] <InFlames> ah, laptop
[07:36] <sc99nicolaus> irc.openjoke.org
[07:36] <InFlames> or no, desktops too
[07:37] <xmetal> hmm
[07:37] <acr> hi
[07:37] <acr> status of Mir in curent ubuntu?
[07:37] <akaWolf> InFlames: desk
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> its not in the current ubuntu as far as i know acr
[07:37] <InFlames> akaWolf, snd_hda_intell, i believe i have the same card
[07:38] <InFlames> latest ubuntu?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> its sort of a testing stage in 13.10
[07:38] <acr> wow
[07:38] <InFlames> 13.04?
[07:38] <acr> bad news
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 to be released next month
[07:38] <akaWolf> InFlames: Ubuntu 13.04
[07:38] <acr> what status of Mir in 13.10 ?
[07:38] <InFlames> same card, same os, i hope i can help
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> its sort of a testing stage in 13.10
[07:39] <InFlames> akaWolf, you tried reinstalling the driver?
[07:39] <sc99nicolaus> !server
[07:39] <eer> Is Ubuntu Touch completely open source?
[07:40] <eer> Just reading through the pages ...
[07:40] <sc99nicolaus> servers
[07:40] <xmetal> i am on a different distro and i think it's new release is out at the end of November ... next "upgrade" i do i want to try to get (i never used one before) a LTS release
[07:40] <daftykins> eer: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that one i believe
[07:40] <eer> daftykins, thx
[07:42] <akaWolf> InFlames: no, how to reinstall the driver?
[07:42] <InFlames> anyone here using netflix?
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: assume someone is, what's your question?
[07:43] <gulag2013> whoami
[07:43] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, i am having all kinds of trouble getting it to let me watch videos on ubuntu 13.04
[07:44] <acr> what troubles?
[07:45] <junktext> InFlames: Netflix doesn't work in native Linux, due to their use of Microsoft Silverlight.  There is a workaround though that uses a PPA (an independent developer) created.  I tested it in the past, but it was a bit choppy at times.  So, I just use Hulu and Amazon videos.
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> acr, 13.10 is #ubuntu+1 in general, mir is not to be fully implemented till at least 14.04
[07:46] <InFlames> junktext, i was referring to netflix-desktop and pipelight, both are giving me headaches, probably due to me
[07:46] <junktext> Google Play videos work in Linux natively too.
[07:47] <junktext> Yeah, that's the PPA I was referring to.  Made by a coder by the name of cornholio I believe.
[07:47] <InFlames> yea
[07:47] <InFlames> compholio
[07:48] <junktext> Is it your first time using the Netflix-desktop workaround?
[07:48] <InFlames> erich e hoover
[07:48] <InFlames> junktext, sadly, no, it used to work swimmingly
[07:48] <InFlames> and i recently heard about pipelight, so i was trying to get that running
[07:48] <InFlames> netflix gives me an error
[07:48] <InFlames> N8156-6003
[07:49] <InFlames> and all i can determine is it's related to DRM
[07:49] <InFlames> oh, the joys of DRM...
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> have you asked abotu thos befor earlier this week InFlames ?
[07:49] <InFlames> Dr_Willis, with no results, i believe so
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> someone else was having a similer issue i recall. (but it might have been you)
[07:50] <junktext> Oh. Nevermind then. I tested the netflix-deskop app a few times, which worked, but it wasn't the best video quality (as my laptop is somewhat older).  I won't be able to help you.  Sorry!
[07:50] <InFlames> I make it sort of a nightly thing to pop in and ask :/
[07:50] <InFlames> to watch netflix right now i have a laptop connected to my second monitor and controlled via synergy :[
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> I dont have netflix any more. :) i am all amazon-prime these days or Crunchyroll.  so havent tested it in ages
[07:50] <InFlames> all so i can watch terrible old films like Street Fighter..
[07:50] <InFlames> :/
[07:51] <InFlames> with Jean Claude Van Damme...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> I got a Roku Pluigged into a USB video capture dongle. so i can watch it on the pc ;P
[07:51] <l9> I am using a sickbear install too keep track of my series and what is aired, but is there away too get the sickbear too delete files from harddrive if i remove my serie???
[07:51] <junktext> Crunchyroll, huh? Never heard of it.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Crunchyroll = anime. new weekly.
[07:51] <InFlames> Dr_Willis, not a bad idea, but this computer case is so crappy i don't even have but 4 working usb ports, rofl, my problems outweigh my need for netflix
[07:52] <bl4ck> hy all
[07:52] <InFlames> i hear crunchyroll is good, it was on my WDTV but i never watched it
[07:52] <xmetal> i have to say (thanks to "Unity Tweak") Unitiy is not as bad as I first thought
[07:52] <junktext> Ah, okay.  Yeah, I just found it online.  Seems cool.
[07:52] <xmetal> noit my favorite DE but not bad
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[07:52] <InFlames> xmetal, what did unity tweak do for you?
[07:52] <gordonjcp> xmetal: unity is actually very good, it's just different to whatever you're used to ;-)
[07:52] <InFlames> i like the familiarity of unity's de, but i wish some things were more the way i like them :/
[07:52] <InFlames> gordonjcp, i actually think unity is pretty decent after using it for so long
[07:53] <xmetal> dater dr
[07:53] <InFlames> everything else feels weird
[07:53] <xmetal> er Later Dr
[07:53] <gulag2013> I would like to see the dash display the most recent installed programs when open. Is that being worked on?
[07:53] <gordonjcp> InFlames: having the bar down the side makes sense
[07:53] <xmetal> "unity Tweak" is the package name
[07:53] <xmetal> or close enough anyway
[07:53] <xmetal> took me some getting use to
[07:53] <InFlames> i like the bar on the side, and i like that it shows on both monitors (are you listening apple?_
[07:54] <InFlames> i just sometimes wish that my menu was inside the application window like windows has it
[07:54] <InFlames> i don't always want to go to the top of the screen to access it, i notice when some applications are run as root (nemo) it works that way
[07:55] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: well some people don't like moving to the window to use the menu
[07:55] <c0p3rn1c> I found the awnser, smbclient  //pc/dir/ -c "ls"
[07:55] <gordonjcp> InFlames: it annoys me sometimes, when I forget the keyboard shortcuts
[07:55] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, the logical problem with that for me is that i never know which window has focus :x
[07:56] <InFlames> i've been known to clutter even the largest monitors, lol
[07:56] <InFlames> i had a 30" and 2 24"s and i'd clutter all of it with windows
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: buy 2560x1440 monitors :)
[07:56] <xmetal>  i have liked in various ways almost all the DE's i have tried ... although Cinn 1.64 was just fine and on the same PC, Cinn 1.88 lags so bad i almost cant use it at all
[07:57] <InFlames> xmetal, i did like some elements of cinnamon, but it felt incomplete and kinda wonky at times
[07:57] <InFlames> i think the smoothest most complete feeling de is unity to me
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> that's what they're going for, a better general and easier to use UI
[07:58] <Moseco_> The website for wineh1 is out of date, does anyone know the command to install the latest stable version? (ubuntu 13.04)
[07:58] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, yea definitely
[07:59] <xmetal> true .. it seems buggy at times ... great think about Linux is i can choice which ever DE i feel like at a certain time
[08:00] <xmetal> i do use cinn 1.64 on one of my systems and it seems ok
[08:00] <xmetal> not sure what happened with 1.88
[08:06] <DarkMatter42> Hello people, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have - I can't boot ubuntu. I have both windows7 and ubuntu installed on my laptop [linux through virtual box] and while I can enter windows, when I select the unix option on start, I see a black screen.
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> DarkMatter42: expand on linux for virtualbox? because you shouldn't have a dual boot option unless you converted the vm to a workable partition
[08:08] <gulag2013> You can do that? Take the VM image and install it?
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> sounds odd to me too
[08:08] <gulag2013> Bare metal I mean?
[08:08] <xmetal> lol i was about to say the same exact thing as gul just said
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> gulag2013: it's possible http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_disk_raw_install_os.html
[08:09] <xmetal> i am nout sure i'd want to
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, The ubuntu virtual is a black screen but windows is normal correct?
[08:09] <xmetal> even if it was possible
[08:09] <gulag2013> I just learned how to save vm's that's great for saving onto different nodes, but this is new to me
[08:09] <xmetal> i'd rather test in VM and then if it "looks good", install on a parition
[08:09] <DarkMatter42> Yes, if I chose the windows option everything is normal [that's how I'm here now], but on linux it goes to black screen.
[08:09] <xmetal> but thats my view
[08:10] <DarkMatter42> a microsecond before the black screen I have 3 error lines that pop and disappear, but I managed to load linux with these errors all the time before.
[08:10] <gulag2013> Oh vmware? I was using virtualbox. Thanks I will read your link
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, Has it always done this?
[08:10] <xmetal> i have used various VM "programs" before though I do not have "tons of " experience with vm machines
[08:10] <DarkMatter42> No, only a few days ago. Everything usually works.
[08:11] <xmetal>  uh
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, have you tried a nomodeset boot, could be some graphic driver problem, however vbox has its own drivers for some things.
[08:11] <DarkMatter42> I don't have the installation disk.
[08:11] <xmetal> wait .. let me re-read this
[08:12] <DarkMatter42> I think it is some graphic driver problem, something similar had happened before.
[08:12] <xmetal> !nomodeset
[08:12] <xmetal> hmm the bot doesn't like me?
[08:12] <xmetal> ah .. bot was grabbing a power nap ;)
[08:13] <marainein> i recently upgraded my kernel (to 3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP) usb storage has stopped working for me, although my usb keyboard and mouse are fine
[08:15] <gulag2013> Crap I had that error today to. Something about adding Vboxuser
[08:15] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure how to set nomodeset if I can't see anything.. I also tried pressing ctrl+alt+fn+f1 and nothing happened.
[08:16] <DarkMatter42> I also tried to assume it's only grephics and enter my pass and open a terminal and try a few commands and nothing seemed to work.
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, You would use the shift key at boot to see the grub menu and insert nomodeset, may take a few trys with vbox.
[08:16] <DarkMatter42> Well I've been using linux for a long time with the virtual box and it was never a problem. I can only think of a graphic error or memory stuff.
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, shift key at clicking start
[08:17] <DarkMatter42> So after choosing unix I should  press shift + start key a few times and reach to that menu?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, are you starting this in the vbox gui, ubuntu is not unix, the nomodeset link tells you how.
[08:19] <xmetal> grub? ... i thought this was windows with a vm of Ubuntu
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[08:20] <DarkMatter42> I'll try to follow the instructions there and will get back here. Thanks!
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, Cool, good luck.
[08:22] <InFlames> anyone have experience with netflix on ubuntu with either the desktop app or pipelight?
[08:23] <Franklin> Is there a grsec+pax patch for 3.2.0-54-generic-pae kernel? please help.
[08:23] <gulag2013> It never played that smooth, I hate to say wait cause who knows how long, but silverlight is on the way out. HTML5 Netflix eventually
[08:24] <InFlames> gulag2013, they use silverlight for drm
[08:24] <InFlames> html5 won't be happening anytime soon
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: certainly not an ubuntu patch
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: a public patch for the 3.2 kernel, maybe.
[08:24] <Franklin> ubuntu cannot be patched ?
[08:24] <InFlames> gulag2013, it also used to run almost perfectly for me, now i can't set it up for the life of me
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: of course ubuntu can be patched
[08:25] <Franklin> i installed grsecurity-2.9.1-3.11.2-201309281103.patch
[08:25] <Franklin> and put it in /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[08:25] <Franklin> I did patch p0 > grsecurity-2.9.1-3.11.2-201309281103.patch
[08:25] <Franklin> then it give me an error
[08:25] <ikonia> Franklin: thats because it's for a different kernel
[08:25] <ikonia> Franklin: you're using a 2.9 patch on a 3.2 kernel
[08:25] <InFlames> gulag2013, i keep reading that to fix my problem i need to delete mspr.hds, which i can't locate for the life of me
[08:26] <Franklin> 2.9.1-3.11.
[08:26] <Franklin> it says 2.9.1-3.11.
[08:26] <Franklin> from 2.9.1 to 3.1.1
[08:26] <FloodBot1> Franklin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <ikonia> Franklin: I doubt that's an acceptable range
[08:26] <gulag2013> Inflames, sorry to hear that.  Have you considered just dual booting? I 'm not familiar with that error.
[08:26] <Franklin> can you give me 3.2.0 patch please
[08:26] <ikonia> Franklin: however, other patches maybe causing the conflict, or you're patching with the wrong offset
[08:27] <ikonia> Franklin: I don't have a 3.2 patch,
[08:27] <InFlames> gulag2013, i have been trying to grep the file, maybe i'm just dumb, how wouldm that command look?
[08:27] <mx8manger> hi all
[08:27] <mx8manger> am having issue since i installed the tor daemon
[08:28] <mx8manger> no wait its launchpad ppa
[08:28] <gulag2013> I'm not qualified to answer, I'm just learning linux myself.
[08:28] <mx8manger> its give me NO DATA ERROR
[08:28] <mx8manger> and i cant removed it
[08:30] <ikonia> mx8manger: the people who made that PPA should be able to support you
[08:31] <mx8manger> its in the launchpad.net/ raring relase thing
[08:31] <ikonia> the what ?
[08:32] <DarkMatter42> Hello again, I followed the instructions on the forum about the nomodeset kernel switch and it's still stuck.
[08:32] <hellyeah> i dunno this channel is convenient to ask that. I installed phpbb to my computer. I am using ubuntu 13.04 and i floow the seps for installing it. But it reported mysql is not available. But i already installed mysql what the heck
[08:32] <DarkMatter42> I'm currently stuck on the debian wallpaper though, rather than a blank screen.
[08:32] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: why would ubuntu hve debian wall paper
[08:32] <InFlames> holy hell, i found it :D
[08:32] <ikonia> hellyeah: is mysql running, can phpbb connect to it ?
[08:32] <InFlames> man, looking in the right place always works, rofl
[08:33] <DarkMatter42> I have no idea ^^'
[08:33] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then you are not using ubuntu
[08:33] <milo64> Ubuntu
[08:33] <milo64> :p
[08:33] <mx8manger> hey ikonia what channel?
[08:33] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: as ubuntu does not display debian wallpaper
[08:33] <ikonia> mx8manger: no idea,
[08:34] <DarkMatter42> I chose the ubuntu option, pressed shift+windows key, reached to a page with the debian wallpaper that had 3 options [linux blabla, linix blabla recovery mode and a third option, and I pressed the 'e' key while being on the first. then changed the linux /boot line's end to nomodeset, and presed cotrl+x. now it's still stuck.
[08:35] <DarkMatter42> The wallpaper is quite nifty though.
[08:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: not an official/valid ubuntu install edia then
[08:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: ubuntu doesn't display debian wall paper
[08:36] <mx8manger> well then UBUNTU IS FU*cked
[08:36] <hellyeah> ikonia: mysql is running phpbb didnt connect mysql.  Look http://i.imgur.com/d2bVWCu.png
[08:36] <DarkMatter42> My faculty's computer staff installed it for me....
[08:36] <gordonjcp> !attitude | mx8manger
[08:36] <ikonia> mx8manger: your language is not acceptable
[08:37] <ikonia> hellyeah: that means you are missing the php (and gd) php modules
[08:37] <ikonia> sorry the mysql and gd php modules
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> mx8manger  we cannot support any tool that some average Joe created
[08:38] <hellyeah> gd php modules i never heard of it what is that
[08:38] <gordonjcp> mx8manger: looks like you installed tor from a PPA - you would need to contact the PPA maintainer for help
[08:38] <ikonia> hellyeah: graphics library
[08:38] <DarkMatter42> Anyone has another idea?
[08:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: use a proper ubuntu install media
[08:38] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <mx8manger> MonkeyDust, you mean jew or JOE
[08:38] <hellyeah> awhat is the package for that can you tell me if you dont mind
[08:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: if your ubuntu install is showing you debian wall paper, it's not ubuntu
[08:39] <hellyeah> hmm php5-gd
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> gordonjcp, I can't manage to boot my linux, I get a black screen.
[08:40] <hellyeah> ikonia:  i installed php5-gd i hope it works
[08:40] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, and what exactly are you doing?
[08:40] <ikonia> hellyeah: that will only fix the missing gd, not mysql
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> People here suggested I switch kernerl to nomodeset
[08:40] <hellyeah> yea i am aware what about mysql it is up and running
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> which didn't seem to work.
[08:41] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: start at the start
[08:41] <DarkMatter42> Some graphics malfunciton maybe
[08:41] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[08:41] <DarkMatter42> Enter linux.
[08:42] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, I can't help you any further because you won't answer any questions
[08:42] <DarkMatter42> Or rather, not see a blank screen when entering linux
[08:42] <DarkMatter42> That's as accurate as I can say.. more specific questions might help.
[08:43] <gordonjcp> it's a beautiful sunny warm sunday morning and I am not in the mood to play twenty questions
[08:43] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: I already told you, start at the start.  Tell me exactly what you are doing.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !details|DarkMatter42,
[08:43] <hellyeah> damns docs
[08:44] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Which graphics card do you have? (That way we can tell you if it's supported or not)
[08:44] <hellyeah> some docs sucks ass
[08:44] <gordonjcp> PatrickDickey: never mind the graphics card
[08:44] <DarkMatter42> I don't know, how do I check which graphics card I have?
[08:44] <Calinou> lspci | grep VGA
[08:44] <gordonjcp> it doesn't matter what graphics card you have
[08:44] <Calinou> in a terminal
[08:44] <gordonjcp> they all work, somewhat
[08:44] <DarkMatter42> My problem is that I'm seeing a blank screen after chosing the ubuntu option when booting my laptop. [it's either windows or ubuntu]
[08:45] <disarm> hello
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: so, you've installed Ubuntu successfully?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: has it ever worked?
[08:45] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure which version I have, but it might be 12.04.
[08:45] <disarm> Is anyone here good with bash scripting?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> !anyone | disarm
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, how did you install it?
[08:46] <DarkMatter42> Yes, it worked great until a few days ago, and for months [since the last problem which was that I didn't have enough free space on ubuntu].
[08:46] <DarkMatter42> and years before that problem.
[08:46] <disarm> !details
[08:46] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, so what might have changed since then?
[08:47] <disarm> I am trying to use sed to grab a string from a sentence, but cannot figure out how to work the wild-cards/regex, any professionals want to chime in?
[08:47] <DarkMatter42> I didn't install it, it was installed at my university by tech people.
[08:47] <disarm> !anyone |disarm
[08:47] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: any chance you can get them to take a look at it?
[08:47] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: the fact that it *was* working is helpful
[08:48] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: so, to recap, you get to the grub screen and you can choose either Windows or Linux?
[08:48] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure, all I remember is that a few days ago I gate it to a friend for a few hours, they weren't doing anything, then I closed the lid, and after a few hours coming back I noticed the computer didn't go into hibernate [that's a known problem, it sometimes doesn't go to hibernate and I need to re-enter and try to close the lid again before it senses it...], so it was rather warm, and so I closed to properly and when I tried
[08:48] <DarkMatter42> went*
[08:49] <gordonjcp> okay
[08:49] <gordonjcp> so when you get this black screen, is there any disk activity?
[08:49] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: I'd suggsst taking this to your uni team who installed it, as the debian art work makes it sound like it's not an ubuntu install
[08:49] <DarkMatter42> I'd prefer to get help from you/friends before I do that.
[08:49] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: this doesn't sound like it's either a.) ubuntu b.) a proper ubuntu install
[08:49] <madsy> Hm, I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but my laptop screen is never turned on during the installation. What could be wrong? I've gone as far as disabling secure boot and UEFI, but nothing seems to work. This is a Lenovo
[08:50] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: silly question have you tried a) unplugging any USB devices like media players, USB sticks etc and b) have you tried turning the screen brightness up?
[08:50] <DarkMatter42> It can't be a virtual box sort of thing?
[08:50] <gordonjcp> brb, door
[08:50] <DarkMatter42> When I boot the laptop I get to the windows or ubuntu menu. if I chose windows, it all works properly. if I chose the ubuntu, I get to a blank screen.
[08:51]  * cfhowlett ... *wubi* ???
[08:51] <DarkMatter42> Never happened before. last time I had a problem I did manage to get to the text version and remove a few files to have more free space, which was the problem, and then when I rebooted it worked. now I can't even get there.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I don't have any usb attached.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> Screen brightness is at max.
[08:52] <pompa> Hello, i want to install Ubuntu, what version i should install?. Ubuntu12.04.3 or Ubuntu 13.04?
[08:52] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: If you go into Windows, and check the Installed Programs (Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs or Installed Programs), do you see Ubuntu listed in there by chance?
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> Yes
[08:52] <ikonia> DarkMatter42 where do you see the debian logo ?
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I'm 80% sure about that, I'll go look again.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I'll search for the wallpaper..
[08:53] <ikonia> this all sounds very wrong
[08:53] <hellyeah> what is wallpaper?
[08:53] <ikonia> hellyeah: image on your desktop background
[08:54] <hellyeah> humm
[08:54] <hellyeah> he has debian wallpaper in the background?
[08:54] <PatrickDickey> I'm guessing he found the debian wallpaper, and installed it.
[08:55] <Myrtti> I thought it was grub background
[08:55]  * PatrickDickey missed the part about the debian wallpaper.. I must have been sleeping then.
[08:56] <PatrickDickey> Well they could have done that for him also. I had my laptop set up to show a background on Grub for a bit.
[08:56] <tozen> madsy: read this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500
[08:56] <DarkMatter42> I can't seem to find the picture... it says "debian / The Universal Operating System" at the bottom right.
[08:57] <DarkMatter42> You see stars and a bit of earth in space, and the debian logo [the spiral with a spaceship] is on the top right.
[08:58] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, that's not Ubuntu
[08:58] <DarkMatter42> lol
[08:58] <milo64> ikonia: ...
[08:58] <Myrtti> that's the plymouth boot animation background
[08:58] <ikonia> milo64: what ?
[08:58] <milo64> ikonia: Hello! :D
[08:59] <DarkMatter42> hurray. so.. do you know who can help me?
[08:59] <milo64> ikonia: i was just saying hi :p
[08:59] <ikonia> ok
[08:59] <Myrtti> DarkMatter42: but what makes you think it is Ubuntu still?
[08:59] <DarkMatter42> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908850
[09:00] <DarkMatter42> Because I have the windows or Ubuntu option, and because all of the names of the files are ubuntu everywhere
[09:02] <DarkMatter42> <I use gnome and it seems to be a "common" thing there>
[09:02] <DarkMatter42> Anyway, I still can't boot linux properly, if you aren't able to help, maybe you can tell me where I can try and find help?
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  try reinstalling ubuntu
[09:04] <DarkMatter42> won't it erase my files there?
[09:04] <DarkMatter42> How can I get the installation cd if I won't go back to the tech people at the univesity?
[09:05] <ikonia> why won't you go back ?
[09:05] <ikonia> they installed it, they seem the logical choice to help you fix it
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  go into windows, create a ubuntu live cd or usb from there
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> oh, seems I missed some part
[09:05] <DarkMatter42> They installed it for a summer project I had, last summer. I won't feel good about coming with my problems now.
[09:06] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then grow up and talk to them about it
[09:06] <RudyValencia> Hi, is there a way I can figure out how a particular package is built (as in, what commands are being used to build it)?
[09:06] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: they are there to help and support you, swallow your pride and explain your problems
[09:06] <DarkMatter42> I did have linux before though that someone installed for me, but they wanted to install it again themselves. the files weren't lost then by the way..
[09:06] <RudyValencia> (I'm trying to adapt a package to another Linux distro for a friend who isn't using Ubuntu)
[09:06] <ikonia> RudyValencia: grab the package source (deb source) and look in the dist file for the options used
[09:07] <DarkMatter42> pride? i have none of that. I'm just not sure I can turn to them with my ubuntu problems anymore because I'm not doing any research for the university at the moment.
[09:07] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then re-install it with a known good copy of ubuntu
[09:07] <ikonia> !install | DarkMatter42
[09:08] <DarkMatter42> will it erase the files i have there now though?
[09:08] <DarkMatter42> I can't even go to the text-version to back them up..
[09:08] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: take a backup of any files you need
[09:08] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: the install media is also live media, it will allow you to backup what you need
[09:08] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Are you still a student/faculty member at the university?
[09:08] <Myrtti> so it's a Ubuntu converted from a virtualbox installation to a one running straight on the hardware?
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> I'm still a student, yes, but I won't start my research before June..
[09:09] <RudyValencia> ikonia: which file would that be?
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> It might me, I'm not sure.
[09:09] <PatrickDickey> If you're still a student, then they *should* help you.
[09:09] <ikonia> RudyValencia: not got a debian source package to hand.....
[09:09] <RudyValencia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/resiprocate
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> All I know is that from Ubuntu I can reach my windows files, but not the other way around.
[09:10] <RudyValencia> I'm trying to figure out how the resiprocate-turn-server subpackage is compiled
[09:10] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: That's because Windows doesn't read the type of file system that Linux uses. You'd have to boot a Live CD to copy your files over to the windows side.
[09:11] <DarkMatter42> Ok, I'll do that, I guess..
[09:11] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: On a slightly related note, is this the picture you see in grub http://lazybrowndog.net/debian/squeeze/bugfixes/grub/spacefun-grub-widescreen.png?
[09:11] <DarkMatter42> yes ^^
[09:12] <PatrickDickey> It's one of the themes that you can install for a background. Ubuntu doesn't have their own, so they offer you the stock debian ones.
[09:12] <DarkMatter42> any ideals which installation path I should take? I'd prefer to have the same thing i have now, which is probably a virtual box with a windows/ubuntu option at start.
[09:12] <excognac> hi all. I've created a boot repair usb but laptop wouldn't  boot from it even boot order is properly set and the stik was created with sudo dd if=... of=.. from live cd, the usb stick looks fine
[09:12]  * PatrickDickey that was more for everyone else's benefit
[09:12] <DarkMatter42> that sounds reasonable.
[09:12] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: always useful to know
[09:13] <JustSighDudes> I just rented a VPS. I can SSH to it using its IP but not using a domain name I have pointed to the IP using an A directive. Any idea why?
[09:13] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: has dns propogated ?
[09:13] <madsy> tozen: Haha..  Ubuntu just happened to boot with the screen brightness turned all the way down
[09:13] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: Yeah. I can access HTTP fine.
[09:14] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: I don't remember if you checked the Add/Remove Programs to see if Ubuntu was listed in there or not.
[09:14] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: if you do an "nslookup" on the hostname you are using to ssh what happens ?
[09:15] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: sorry, the hostname/fqdn you are trying to ssh "to"
[09:15] <ikonia> just to be clear.
[09:15] <excognac> any ideas why my stick doesn't work?
[09:15] <duper> ls
[09:15] <DarkMatter42> doing it now
[09:15] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: I get a different IP. That's strange.
[09:16] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: sounds like dns is either not propogated fully, or you've got a local entry somewhere on your machine that conflicts
[09:16] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: No local entry. Must be propogation. But why would HTTP work?
[09:17] <DarkMatter42> PatrickDickey, yes, I have Ubuntu on that list, apparently version 11.04-rev211 if it helps.
[09:18] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Yep. that means that they installed Ubuntu via wubi. Which might explain half of the problem you're having. So, your best option for reinstallation is just a dual-boot (because Wubi isn't supported anymore).
[09:18] <cfhowlett> PatrickDickey, bad news.  wubi done a dracula and risen from the grave.
[09:18] <DarkMatter42> Can you explain in a few words what's Wubi?
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> Just lovely. There really is such a thing as a zombie then.
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> <yes, I can google, but I prefer a nice summation from someone here>
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> !wubi | DarkMatter42
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> You mean I have a zombie linux version?
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> So why shouldn't it work now?
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> No, just a buggy installation (at least in the past).
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> <It's installed from windows 7>
[09:20] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, wubi is a virtualization for TESTING ubuntu ... not for long-term installation.  it installs in windows and is subject to all the weaknesses thereof
[09:20] <gordonjcp> I'm sure wubi seemed like a good idea at the time
[09:21] <gordonjcp> like lots of other things, such as sarin
[09:21] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, and people used to take medicinal cocaine
[09:21] <DarkMatter42> So I found this option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How_to_dual-boot_Ubuntu_and_XP_after_installing_them_separately_on_two_HDs but no case seem to be right for me..
[09:21] <madsy> In the Ubuntu 13 installer, if I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8", will the installation create the necessary UEFI boot partition?
[09:21] <DarkMatter42> So how should I go about and re-installing it?
[09:22] <DarkMatter42> <I prefer through a USB since I don't have a CD. I can burn one, but not sure what's better>
[09:22] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, USB is better IMO
[09:22] <InFlames> wubi is really slow, is it not?
[09:22] <InFlames> since it's not native
[09:22] <InFlames> i've used it before once
[09:22] <DarkMatter42> hmmok, it's weird before I did manage to operate matlab through it, so it's probably a good testing installation, heh.
[09:22] <gordonjcp> yeah
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> It wasn't slow at all for me.
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> I even managed to operate Mathematica.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> InFlames, not noticeably slow
[09:23] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: have you compared it to a native install?
[09:23] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: cached entry on a server that has popogated perhaps ?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, now virtualbox/vmware can be noticeably slower
[09:23] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: before you go the reinstallation route, you might look in the troubleshooting section of the wubi guide that ubottu linked to. They have a couple of things you can try if Ubuntu doesn't boot.
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> No, but I did compare it to my super-slow stationary computer and my regular speed windows and it was like the latter.
[09:24] <Pythonisto> hello
[09:25] <RudyValencia> I'm still trying to figure this out
[09:25] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, geetings
[09:25] <Pythonisto> I was reading about Ubuntu Touch
[09:26] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: It's been around 30 hours though. This seems to be more complicated than that.
[09:26] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: anything in ssh.conf that might cause this?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> !touch|Pythonisto,
[09:26] <Pythonisto> is Ubuntu Touch going to work on Sony Xperia U ? is there any website that I check this?
[09:27] <Pythonisto> ah, you're fast
[09:27] <Pythonisto> thanks ;)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, have fun
[09:27] <Pythonisto> thanks
[09:27] <ice9> I installed cinnamon  but it's not showing any panels, only the desktop icon!
[09:27] <ice9> icons*
[09:27] <Pythonisto> do you happen to know the process of flashing my phoen ROM with this Ubuntu Touch?
[09:27] <Pythonisto> phoen=phone
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, ask in !touch that's what's it's for.
[09:28] <guest43827> exit
[09:28] <Pythonisto> okay
[09:29] <hansg01> hi just a simple question, which is the right place to ask about ubuntu mobile os?
[09:29] <excognac> any ideas why my laptop wouln't boot from a boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso (latest version) when it has 12.04 kubuntu installed on with messed up grub2? boot order properly set.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !touch|hansg01,
[09:30] <excognac> the boot-repair is on a usb-stick
[09:30] <DarkMatter42> I got to here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html but no solution seems right either, PatrickDickey
[09:31] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: it sounds like it's installed in wubi
[09:31] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: the best thing is to wipe it and start again
[09:31] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: unlikely
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  is it a wubi installation?
[09:31] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: what distro is the client/server
[09:31] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide There's a section called "Cannot Boot Into Ubuntu" and one about accessing your files.
[09:32] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04 and same+putty for client
[09:32] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: your using putty on ubuntu ?
[09:32] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: I'll just give it time. Don't worry about it.
[09:33] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: Yes. no jk jk. I meant I tried on both putty and regular terminal.
[09:33] <ikonia> JustSighDudes the ssh and sshd configs should cause no problems like this by default,
[09:33] <JustSighDudes> putty on windows, that is.
[09:33] <DarkMatter42> It seems that I need to have a cd/usb ubuntu installation anyway... so where can I find the best thing to have if I still want to have a double-boot option and a way of saving my files before re-installing?
[09:34] <JustSighDudes> It's definitely a DNS issue thought. I'm too sleepy to realize that nslookup gave the wrong IP and that's the cause of the problem and not ssh_config.
[09:34] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: It's cool though. Thanks for your help.
[09:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: have you actually READ the install information ubottu gave you earlier
[09:35] <ikonia> !install | DarkMatter42
[09:35] <kblin> hi folks
[09:35] <RudyValencia> hm
[09:36] <kblin> I've got some fun with network manager currently
[09:36] <DarkMatter42>  I went there and saw a few options but wasn't sure what's the best.
[09:36] <kblin> it seems to be injecting two bogus nameservers and a bogus search domain into my /etc/resolv.conf
[09:37] <bekks> kblin: Which ones?
[09:37] <kblin> they're my name servers and domain from at work
[09:37] <ikonia> kblin: used a vpn recenently by any chance....
[09:38] <kblin> I have used a VPN, but I'm seeing that even without having used the VPN on a fresh boot
[09:38] <DarkMatter42> 12.04 or 13.04?
[09:38] <kblin> 13.04
[09:38] <ikonia> kblin: yes, someone else reported this yesterday
[09:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: whatever suits your needs best
[09:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: only you can really decide that
[09:38] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Down near the bottom are "Other installation Guides". You're only going to care about either Multi-oS boot, WIndows-dual-boot, and wubi. Mainly the last two. They both have their advantages/disadvantages.
[09:39] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: That's on the installation guide page that ubottu gave you.
[09:39] <fgsfdsfgs> good day, kind sirs
[09:39] <fgsfdsfgs> i have a couple of questions on UEFI booting.
[09:40] <kblin> ikonia: so currently I'm fixing my resolv.conf file manually, but I need to do that on every DHCP lease renewal, which is a tad annoying
[09:40] <ikonia> kblin: yes, exactly the same situation as someone else yesterday
[09:40] <DarkMatter42> So I'll go with Wubi then?
[09:40] <bekks> DarkMatter42: No.
[09:41] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Dont go with wubi, never.
[09:41] <DarkMatter42> :(
[09:41] <fgsfdsfgs> so i have one of these godblasted samsung SmartPC XE500 tablets, which run on Atom CloverTrail
[09:41] <DarkMatter42> MultiOsBOot then?
[09:41] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Yes. Or setup a vm.
[09:41] <subz3r0> signed. stay away from wubi :D
[09:42] <DarkMatter42> Which way wll enable me to see files on ubuntu from windows and vice versa?
[09:42] <fgsfdsfgs> and i managed to install the IA32 version of refind on it, which sort of works and boots up win8
[09:42] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Not necessarily.
[09:43] <subz3r0> DarkMatter42: use a partition with ntfs to share things
[09:43] <BlitzHere> Hi all. So, I managed to break my system and am doing a clean install of 13.04. I have a ~465GB hard drive. I'm going to be dealing with a huge amount of data and I'm not sure what my requirements will be in the future. What I want to do is to put /usr and /home on one massive partition on the main hard drive to maximize flexibility between apps and personal data and stick the rest on to my USB 3.0 flash drive. What would be the right way to do this? I'm
[09:43] <fgsfdsfgs> so the question is: is there any way at all to boot an ubuntu usb stick with 32-bit refind?
[09:43] <fgsfdsfgs> i heard the live images don't quite work on EFIx86
[09:44] <BlitzHere> I've got 8GB of RAM. I figure I can put the swap partition on the USB drive as it's hardly used anyway...
[09:44] <ikonia> BlitzHere: bad idea
[09:44] <bekks> BlitzHere: Use 256M for /boot and the rest for LVM. Using LVM, you are flexible on distributing space between / and /home and /usr and whatever you want to have as mountpoints.
[09:44] <kblin> BlitzHere: I get this for /home, but /usr?
[09:45] <ikonia> BlitzHere: no idea why you want to use /usr either
[09:45] <Calinou> LVM is slower, just saying
[09:45] <ikonia> BlitzHere: why not keep it simple and just make 1 partition /
[09:45] <ikonia> that way it's all directory based
[09:46] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD, again. You cant even notice the difference without a millisecond-stopwatch.
[09:46] <BlitzHere> kblin, ikonia: Steam games and stuff take up gigs and gigs of data. I figured I can delete some games if I need space for personal files later, which I probably will...
[09:46] <BlitzHere> Hmmm, okay
[09:46] <ikonia> BlitzHere still no need to have a sepearate partition for /usr
[09:46] <Calinou> also uses more CPU :P
[09:46] <PatrickDickey> And with 8GB of RAM, do you really need a swap partition anyhow? I've read somewhere that above 4, you don't need it (of course that's not future-proof).
[09:46] <bekks> Calinou: See above.
[09:46] <ikonia> BlitzHere: if you want it simple - just use 1 partition for / and 1 partition for swap
[09:46] <BlitzHere> Aren't all apps on /usr?
[09:47] <ikonia> BlitzHere: yes ?
[09:47] <kblin> PatrickDickey: so clearly the old "swap is ram * 2" thing is silly with large ram sizes
[09:47] <Calinou> if you're not going to resize your partitions, no need for LVM
[09:47] <PatrickDickey> BlitzHere: Some can be installed in /opt also.
[09:47] <ikonia> BlitzHere: why does that mean you need a seperate partition then ?
[09:47] <Calinou> LVM is also harder to manage software wise
[09:47] <ikonia> Calinou: this is just nonsense
[09:47] <ikonia> Calinou: please stop making things up - you've been warned about this before
[09:47]  * PatrickDickey uses LVM on all of his Fedora installs.
[09:48] <bekks> Calinou: See above again.
[09:48] <kblin> PatrickDickey: I've run out of 8 GB of RAM before, though, so I'd still add some swap :)
[09:48] <kblin> PatrickDickey: then again, I've got 256 GB ram systems at work, and those don't have swap
[09:49] <kblin> PatrickDickey: so I guess this really depends on what you're planning to do with the system
[09:49] <aylerni> Yo. why my mouse only works 1 of 2 restarts? why the display is too small for monitor, Thanx.
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> !details | aylerni
[09:50] <kblin> I mean I ran out of ram on the 256 GB system as well, but falling back to spinning rust instead of ram would be too slow as well, so I prefer the whole thing to just die
[09:50] <fgsfdsfgs> and uh, can i just dd the liveiso onto a usb drive for it to work properly?
[09:50] <aylerni> im on 13.04, trying to run system, getting too small display for monitor and no mouse input from touchkeyboard, THNX
[09:50] <PatrickDickey> kblin: Very true. Personally, I still add swap. Even with 8GB, I'd add it, since the 16GB of drive space is negligible if you've got a multi-TB drive.
[09:51] <kblin> PatrickDickey: on the other end of the spectrum, I've got a 128 MB ram system without swap
[09:51] <PatrickDickey> aylerni: When you say too small of a display, does it show up as a small display in the center surrounded by black bars, or is the text just too small to read?
[09:51] <kblin> because the "hdd" there is an SD card, and using those as flash is a great method to kill them fast
[09:52] <Calinou> no, it isn't, flash lasts very long
[09:52] <Calinou> (inb4 "oh made up")
[09:52] <aylerni> well, its a stretched screen (in height), and there is black bars around the screen
[09:52] <Calinou> I have swap on my SSD, which is rarely used, but it certainly doesn't kill it
[09:52] <Calinou> it's FUD (oh, irony) to say you can kill a SSD or such by writing to it
[09:52] <kblin> Calinou: well, SSDs have wear leveling and all
[09:53] <aylerni> installed nvidia-current, but not sure it finishd, accidently pressed reboot
[09:53] <ikonia> Calinou: it is not "fud" - use software mirroring on an SSD and watch it die VERY quickly
[09:53] <kblin> Calinou: but talking from practical experience on cheap SD cards, I can produce defect sectors within weeks if I put swap onto it
[09:53] <BlitzHere> ikonia, Well, I figured I'd use my main hard purely for apps and data (and maybe the EFI and boot partitions) and the USB flash drive for everything else. I will probably have games on /usr meaning that the amount of space used by that would vary wildly. I suppose the simplest thing to do would be to put everything on the main hard drive, turn the USB flash drive into swap and buy an external hard drive when I need more space but I figured I could try so
[09:53] <Calinou> ikonia: of course you shouldn't defrag a SSD
[09:53] <ikonia> BlitzHere: do not use usb for swap
[09:54] <PatrickDickey> Calinou: in the past, an SSD (or "flash") drive was only good for a few hundred thousand reads and writes. That's why it was recommended not to put a swap file on a SSD drive. Admitedly, I don't know if it still holds true.
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: no-one said anyting about defrag
[09:54] <kblin> Calinou: and identical hardware without swap had the SD card holding out much longer
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: I said software mirror an SSD and it will die quickly - this nothing to do with defrag
[09:54] <rymate1234> I have ubuntu server 12.04, and I'm sending emails from a drupal site via postfix on my server. However the emails are ending up in the spam folders of both gmail accounts I'm testing with. Is there anyway this can be fixed?
[09:54] <Calinou> depends what it is mirrored to
[09:54] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD again, regarding fragmentation and SSD.
[09:54] <kblin> but, as I said, that was for ten bucks a pop SD cards
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: so your final warning - STOP with the random facts of false
[09:55] <starbuck> hi, how can i configure a static ip for a pcmcia NIC?
[09:55] <bekks> starbuck: sure.
[09:55] <ikonia> starbuck: same as a non pcmia nick
[09:55] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Go into your gmail accounts and add the root@localdomain or whatever their address is, to your contacts. And tell Google (in the spam folder) that they're not junk. That *should* work.
[09:55] <solitaire> you're a false
[09:55] <ikonia> nic even
[09:56] <solitaire> ikonia: this statement is false
[09:56] <rymate1234> PatrickDickey, this is for user registrations.....
[09:56] <rymate1234> I can't tell every person who registers to do that
[09:56] <solitaire> Calinou: you're also a false
[09:57] <kingplusplus> please i need some assistance... I have created a shared folder with samba  the folder path is "/SharedFolder" but i can copy and paste from my ubuntu but on the other system I can access the folder and paste files... also files pasted show a padlock files from other pc
[09:57] <aylerni> i go install windows, bye, ByuahuAUhuahuahu
[09:57] <kblin> ikonia: thanks
[09:57] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Why not? Most sites have a disclaimer that says "To avoid our emails going into your SPAM folder, please add us to your addressbook." Your other option is to register a domain, and point it to your drupal site. Then configure postfix to use that domain for it's email addresses.
[09:57] <fgsfdsfgs> jebus, i totally forgot how to even use irc
[09:58] <BlitzHere> ikonia - Hmmm, why? My main hard drive is definitely faster. It's a 7200rpm 500GB unit and I get sequential speeds of about 130MB/s. The USB 3.0 drive does about 75-80MB/s on sequential reads and about 12-15ish MB/s on sequential writes, but I figured that with 8GB of RAM, I'll hardly be using swap at all. Are my assumptions wrong? Can I use that USB stick for anything other than storage?
[09:58] <ikonia> BlitzHere it doesn't matter if you use swap or not - don't put it on an external dricveve
[09:59] <bekks> BlitzHere: Your harddrive is much more faster than your USB, and RAM is even much more faster. So dont put swap on USB.
[09:59] <Zigara> any suggestions for authoritative DNS server software?
[09:59] <Zigara> besides bind
[09:59] <kblin> Zigara: in an AD setting, I'm partial to using the one shipped with Samba
[10:00] <PatrickDickey> Zigara: not so much for Linux. If you're using Windows, you could see if Treewalk is still being developed.
[10:00] <kblin> Zigara: but a) that only makes sense if you run an AD domain, and b) I'm biased because I wrote it
[10:00] <bekks> BlitzHere: And an external drive can be disconnected online - which will cause severe problems when being used as swap.
[10:00] <Zigara> PatrickDickey: that is funny
[10:00] <BlitzHere> ikonia, bekks, okay. I suppose I'll do it the boring way and put everything on the hard drive...
[10:01] <BlitzHere> Thanks
[10:01]  * PatrickDickey was serious, but yeah it is kind of funny
[10:01] <kblin> Zigara: BIND unfortunately is pretty much the state of the art
[10:01] <rymate1234> PatrickDickey, I have a domain name, and I've pointed it to the drupal site
[10:01] <rymate1234> lmao
[10:01] <Zigara> I'm using powerdns at the moment and it's held up great, but looking to see the other options for my new deployment
[10:02] <kblin> Zigara: in fact many of the DNS protocol specs happen to be written in a way that makes them easy to implement in BIND
[10:02] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: when you send emails out, do they come from your domain name, or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:02] <Zigara> well, I am considering bind of course, was just curious what other names people throw out there
[10:02] <kblin> feature-wise, I think nothing gets close to bind 9
[10:02] <rymate1234> they come from @mydomain.co.uk
[10:02] <kblin> stay away from bind 10 for the next couple of years
[10:02] <Zigara> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software#Feature_matrix
[10:03] <rymate1234> with my domain replaced with mydomain.co.uk lmao
[10:03] <Zigara> I'm looking at this here
[10:03] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Then I think your only option is to tell them to add that email address to their whitelist.
[10:03] <rymate1234> k
[10:03] <Zigara> I was expecting at least someone to suggest another one, but it seems everyone loves bind
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> Zigara  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[10:04] <Zigara> oh
[10:04] <Zigara> didn't know that existed, nice
[10:04] <Zigara> MonkeyDust: thanks
[10:05] <kblin> Zigara: I really dislike bind, but it's a bit hard to argue against their feature-set
[10:05] <PatrickDickey> Zigara: Not that this is perfect, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software shows some of the comparisons. It looks like Bind and PowerDNS are both equal in terms of features. Everything else listed is lacking something.
[10:05] <kblin> also reminds me that I need to get Samba DNS onto that list
[10:05] <Zigara> I did get a suggestion to use NSD, which seems to have quite a few features on there