[14:46] <k1l> gdoteof_: then dont complain you dont get security updates if you dont want to get them form ubuntu. its your choice
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i am not complaining!  i would LIKE TO SWITCH BACK TO UBUNTU
[14:46] <gdoteof_> you might have noticed i even said i had messed with my repos over time
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i recognize all of that
[14:46] <somsip> !ppa-purge | gdoteof_ (if you have installed bash from a PPA)
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i just want to fix the damn thing
[14:47] <digitalfriends> Hello
[14:48] <k1l> gdoteof_: this is a clean source.list https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list  (with us. servers, you can change the us. to your country if that is another)
[14:48] <gdoteof_> mirror.lstn.net is not official repos?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> digitalfriends, this isn't the social chitchat channel.  ask your ubuntu question or no one will talk to you.
[14:54] <w_> 大家好
[14:54] <StolenToast> I'm allergic to unicode
[14:54] <StolenToast> *sneeze
[14:54] <w_> 有中国人吗
[14:54] <somsip> !zh | w_
[14:54] <og01_> unicode is great!
[14:54] <skizu> If I sudo screen do I keep the user context in the screen?
[14:55] <w_> 谢谢
[14:55] <Sevet> does anyone know why git-buildpackage --git-pbuilder with cowbuilder would not be trying to install the build-depends dependancies?
[14:55] <Sevet> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 9)
[14:55] <somsip> skizu: that strikes me as being a bad idea. Just screen for a use and use sudo on a case by case basis
[14:55] <somsip> *a user
[14:56] <gdoteof_> skizu: in any case i believe you do
[14:56] <skizu> So su screen or sudo screen?
[14:56] <linux_> hello
[14:56] <og01_> I'm trying to update all my servers, I have a ubunutu trusty server that i've done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on but it still has a vulnrable version of bash and sh installed, perhaps i'm missing the source list for the security update? what should it be?
[14:56] <somsip> skizu: screen, then sudo when you need to from within screen
[14:56] <skizu> I can't screen with sudo
[14:56] <skizu> somsip: ^
[14:56] <gdoteof_> su screen will try and log you in as a user called screen; but somsip is right you should probably just use it case by case
[14:56] <k1l> skizu: just start screen. then use sudo if needed
[14:57] <Grimlock1182> I was wondering if there is a way to use custom system event sounds in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:57] <gdoteof_> or do inside the screen, 'sudo su' which will turn yo into root until you exit the shell
[14:58] <gdoteof_> k1l: somsip:  thanks i am now safe
[14:58] <k1l> gdoteof_: alright
[14:59] <skizu> Ah my issue was different, I can't screen -rd without sudo
[15:00] <somsip> gdoteof_: np
[15:01] <bitpimp> dell linux
[15:01] <bitpimp> omg… sorry… wrong window.
[15:04] <ckboss> hello
[15:04] <Kireji> update your bash everyone
[15:04] <Kireji> and then reboot
[15:05] <Kireji> if you want details, read sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -o eth3 -j MASQUERADE
[15:05] <Kireji> oops
[15:05] <Kireji> read http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about.html
[15:06] <clouddig> Is this list a good place to ask questions about the openstack cloud-installer: http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html
[15:06] <thiocy> hi
[15:06] <ckboss> env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[15:07] <thiocy> i have a display problem with ubuntu. does anyone knows to help please?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !ask  | thiocy
[15:08] <StolenToast> !patience
[15:08] <information_poor> wich program is have a powerful for download
[15:08] <bazzzb> wget
[15:08] <thiocy> thanks. i have problem with my ubuntu 12.04. when i was normaly logged in from graphical interface, now when it start ups, it shows me tty1. and when i go cntrl alt F8 it shows only a cursor flashing
[15:08] <clouddig> Each time the cloud-installer tries to allocate a machine it produces the error
[15:08] <clouddig> [INFO] â¨ Waiting for a machine. Machines summary: 5 unknown (error: kvm container creation failed: exit statu1), 1 unknown
[15:09] <egsome> Does Ubuntu uses Dash or Bash ? I read that it uses Dash, but I found my terminal using a Bash shell ..
[15:09] <egsome> Actually I'm using XUbuntu
[15:09] <information_poor> bazzzb: but now im downloading 29kb/s, but there ise 10mb/s bandwitch
[15:09] <k1l> egsome: it uses bash for the user terminal. just run all updates and you will get the patches
[15:09] <StolenToast> ubottu: we could use one of those in a tracker channel I am in
[15:09] <StolenToast> oh
[15:10]  * facepalm
[15:10] <egsome> k1l, Then, Where Dash is being used ?
[15:10] <StolenToast> i c wat u did thar
[15:10] <g4r37h> ubottu likes to claim he's a bot to make up for his low intelligence
[15:10] <k1l> egsome: for scripts that just refer to /bin/sh
[15:10] <og01_> Hi I have a ubuntu server 14.04 which seems to be completely uptodate, yet my bash version is still vulnrable, what could be wrong?
[15:11] <og01_> as a note this server has gone through many release upgrades in its lifetime
[15:11] <egsome> k1l, I think I got it, It depends on the Terminal application I use, and what shell does it choose, correct ?
[15:11] <k1l> og01_: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure all updates are done
[15:11] <jarchik> exit
[15:11] <og01_> k1l: these steps i have followed without error
[15:12] <k1l> egsome: yes, most scripts use /bin/sh (which is dash) and most user manually use bash
[15:12] <jarchik> quit
[15:12] <egsome> k1l, Yeah, Thanks for that.
[15:12] <k1l> og01_: "apt-cache policy bash" says what version is installed?
[15:13] <og01_> 4.3-6ubuntu1
[15:13] <og01_> k1l: ^
[15:13] <k1l> og01_: that is not good. 4.3-7ubuntu1.1  is the security patch version
[15:13] <ePax> I'm on 14.04 and i would like to have alsa equalizer so that i can ajust bass treble and so on. Does alsa have that?
[15:13] <k1l> og01_: please pastebin the apt-cache  output
[15:14] <og01_> k1l: sure
[15:15] <cgi> hello guys. how can i install plugins in vim where some tutorials point me to to ~./vim folder and in ubuntu 14.04 theirs no more ~./vim. I also create my own ~/.vim folder and put the plugins but no luck and its not working. Can anyone point me how to install plugins in vim on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:15] <og01_> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8426096/
[15:16] <k1l> og01_: your mirror is way out of date. i would suggest to use a official ubuntu mirror
[15:16] <k1l> og01_: this is a clean source.list https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list  (with us. servers, you can change the us. to your country if that is another)
[15:17] <og01_> k1l: i see, i hadnt realised, i just did this on a dbeian server also
[15:18] <og01_> but in that case ther server was nolonger available so it was obvious to me
[15:18] <usr13> !info vim-scripts | cgi
[15:22] <apatheticsheep> howdy all - i just installed drivers for my geforce card on 14.04 and they don't seem to be playing nice.  looks like my Xserver doesn't want to load now and i also cannot get to another vt with alt+Fn  --- what do i do now?
[15:22] <og01_> k1l: out of interest according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors my mirror is up to date
[15:22] <skirlet> hey everyone, I just posted a help thread in linuxquestions.org re: my Ubuntu Software Center not functioning: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5244119#post5244119
[15:23] <thiocy> who knows how to reinstall x server?
[15:23] <thiocy> apt-get what?
[15:24] <bazzzb> thiocy: http://aruljohn.com/info/xwindow/
[15:24] <thiocy> thanks bazzzb
[15:26] <og01_> k1l: I just switched to another mirror (uptodate by that list) and I'm still not seing the latest packages
[15:26] <Janhouse> CVE-2014-7169 still not fixed?
[15:26] <k1l> the latest package come from the security repo
[15:27] <k1l> !usn | Janhouse see the usn notices. a first patch is shiped since yesterday
[15:27] <og01_> k1l: I'll check if its in my list
[15:27] <Janhouse> Well, the first patch is. Is there a second one?
[15:27] <apatheticsheep> how can i get ubuntu to boot with no X (aka runlevel 3)? like if my xserver is broken and I can alt+Fn to another VT
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> hello/
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> hello?
[15:28] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, ask your ubuntu questions
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> ok
[15:28] <k1l> Janhouse: the bash coders are working on a patch to make sure the whole issue is adressed. but their first patch is included into ubuntu already
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> can i run Guild Wars 2 on Ubuntu without wine?
[15:29] <k1l> xxKILLJ0Y: well, does guild wars ship a linux client?
[15:29] <derFiet> hello I try to understand how to get mailman running with postfix on 14.04 LTS
[15:29] <xxKILLJ0Y> anybody?
[15:29] <Janhouse> k1l, if it doesn't fix it then it doesn't really make a big difference...
[15:29] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, does guild wars come on steam or publish a linux version?
[15:29] <k1l> Janhouse: it fixes it
[15:30] <derFiet> some sites say that its necessary to use the postfix_to_mailman.py script, others strongly discurage it
[15:30] <maxvi> which is best desktop app for google hangouts in ubuntu?
[15:30] <xxKILLJ0Y> say @hi@ if you can see my texts
[15:30] <kostkon> maxvi, your browser?
[15:30] <Janhouse> If it did then they wouldn't name it "inconclusive patch"
[15:30] <Janhouse> Meaning it doesn't really work.
[15:30] <Janhouse> And wouldn't make a CVE with score 10.
[15:30] <Janhouse> You see where I am going with this?  I was able to boot to a recovery console using shift.  now ... how do i undo whatever it is that the geforce driver installation broke? it said it backed up my x config ... but where?
[15:33] <k1l> og01_: you could include the security repos.
[15:33] <ooloo> Okay, so I messes stuff up. I installed the gnome shell thing and it made deafult ubuntu's network indicator disappear and I don't know how to get it back
[15:33] <xxKILLJ0Y> is there anything easier 2 use than wine for GW2
[15:33] <og01_> k1l: is that not the ones at the end of the list?
[15:33] <ooloo> I have since uninstalled the gnome shell thing
[15:33] <kostkon> xxKILLJ0Y, Playonlinux
[15:33] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, all the emulator tools use wine so ...
[15:33] <xxKILLJ0Y> THNX!!!
[15:34] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ did you install nvidia-current
[15:34] <xxKILLJ0Y> THNX!!!              :-O
[15:35] <xxKILLJ0Y> lol
[15:35] <apatheticsheep> philinux I didn't install using apt - i got it from nvidia directly ... which was probably not the best choice
[15:35] <xxKILLJ0Y> i almost always use apt?
[15:36] <apatheticsheep> yea - i didn't realize that apt would have video drivers for geforce cards ... until just now
[15:36] <og01_> k1l: ah got it thanks
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> isthere any way to remotely control my macbook through my ubuntu 14.04
[15:36] <apatheticsheep> well yesterday sometime
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> ????
[15:36] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, bluetooth maybe
[15:36] <maxvi> kostkon: chromium
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> dunno how 2 use bluetooth
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> with ubuntu/
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> ?*
[15:37] <BluesKaj> apatheticsheep,  always check the package manager for nvidia drivers first
[15:37] <og01_> k1l: when i added the security repos i failed, not sure why they wernt there in the first place
[15:37] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y VNC?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, turn on BT.  turn on BT device.  link.  use.
[15:37] <JayJ_> Anybody have any pointers on how to slipstream a driver into Ubuntu PXE server? My server need a RAID driver to see the volumes
[15:37] <tesertx> how do i get the double quotations necessary for nix cli on a british keyboard?
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> ok thnx again
[15:37] <og01_> k1l: perhaps lost during a release update
[15:37] <cfhowlett> JayJ_, might was to ask #ubuntu-server
[15:37] <k1l> og01_: i recommend to use the clean sources.list
[15:37] <JayJ_> thanks
[15:37] <JayJ_> cfhowlett: thanks
[15:38] <ooloo> If somebody does know how to return my wireless icon back to my toolbar, I'd be happy to know.
[15:38] <og01_> k1l: I will replace with yours, there were no unoffical in there in anycase
[15:39] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y - also i think yugma works for remote controller on a variety of platforms
[15:40] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y and maybe teamviewer
[15:40] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ unless someone else has a better idea i'd do this in recovery.  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[15:41] <xxKILLJ0Y> kool
[15:41] <apatheticsheep> philinux - I am trying just to install nvidia drivers from apt now - maybe it'll overwrite whatever the nvidia installer did
[15:41] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/360761/cannot-get-rid-of-nvidia-drivers-restore-nouveau-driver-and-get-desktop-working
[15:41] <Williams> hola a todos
[15:42] <Williams> algun español por aqui¿?
[15:42] <k1l> !es | Williams
[15:42] <apatheticsheep> philinux - lol perfect thanks
[15:42] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ no need for the lightdm stop bit from recovery
[15:43] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ been there before a few times in the past
[15:43] <apatheticsheep> philinux - actually looks like just installing nvidia-304 using apt fixed it
[15:43] <apatheticsheep> it's a 9800gt that's why i am using 304
[15:44] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ a reboot will tell
[15:44] <faucon> any one using asus 1015e?
[15:44] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ nvidia-current-updates would do
[15:44] <philinux> always more ways than one
[15:45] <milad1512> can ubuntu or it's terminal alone be used for hacking ?
[15:46] <apatheticsheep> milad1512 ... what?
[15:47] <milad1512> using terminal or anything in ubuntu to hack something
[15:47] <k1l> milad1512: we dont support malicious intentions in here
[15:47] <milad1512> a computer or a website
[15:47] <ooloo> milad1512, what kind of hacking do you mean?
[15:47] <milad1512> no don't get me wrong
[15:47] <ooloo> oh, that.
[15:47] <faucon> milad1512: ???
[15:48] <milad1512> i just wanna know if it's possible
[15:48] <milad1512> any kind of hacking
[15:48] <faucon> milad1512: anything is possible in linux ;-)
[15:48] <ooloo> good answer, faucon.
[15:48] <milad1512> you sure ?
[15:48] <jpds> milad1512: 1s and 0s.
[15:49] <ooloo> But my wireless icon is *still* gone! How do I get it back?
[15:49] <bazzzb> milad1512: you can even hack the pentagon from terminal
[15:49] <ooloo> Or even, how do I add icons to my toolbar?
[15:49] <philinux> any OS can be used for subversion
[15:49] <faucon> milad1512: 1s and 0s baby ohh yaah ;->
[15:50] <k1l> for the not ubuntu support related talking we got: #ubuntu-offtopic . thanks
[15:50] <benzhninja> http://www.neowin.net/news/the-surface-mini-was-real-and-i-got-to-play-with-one
[15:50] <k1l> ooloo: is the wifi working and just the indicator is gone?
[15:50] <philinux> ooloo;~ even after reboot still gone?
[15:50] <k1l> benzhninja: please dont spam links in here
[15:50] <milad1512> bazzzb . thanks
[15:51] <ooloo> k1l, I can manually go into network manager and it detects my wifi network, but I don't have the ability to connect on that machine.
[15:51] <ooloo> k1l, and yes, even after reboot it's still gone.
[15:52] <k1l> ooloo: what ubuntu is that exaclty? what did you do before it did disapear?
[15:52] <ooloo> I was hoping I could maybe just restore all default settings in ubuntu or something, like maybe that would do the trick
[15:52] <Williams> hola
[15:52] <ooloo> k1l, oh sorry, 14.4 LTS
[15:52] <Grimlock1182> guys, how to install weather forecast widget in ubuntu 14.04?
[15:52] <k1l> Grimlock1182: get my-weather-indicator
[15:52] <ooloo> k1l, I installed the gnome shell extension (big mistake).. and I got things mostly to normal after uninstalling it, but the network icon as disappeared
[15:53] <k1l> ooloo: so you are on gnome-shell?
[15:53] <Grimlock1182> kllthanks
[15:53] <ooloo> k1l, no, I uninstalled it
[15:54] <jere_> I just booted 14.04 Ubuntu.
[15:54] <jere_> But sudo apt-get install emacs24 not working
[15:54] <faucon> anyone having trouble connecting to LAN using ubuntu12.04LTS in asus 1015e
[15:55] <jere_> This is on Virtual Box and internet is working fine inside the guest.
[15:55] <k1l> ooloo: well. you could try to create another user and log into that to see if this is just a user setting
[15:55] <daftykins> jere_: are you sure that's a valid package? did you run apt-get update first?
[15:55] <daftykins> !info emacs24
[15:55] <ooloo> k1l, I'll see what that does.
[15:55] <faucon> why not compile emacs????
[15:56] <daftykins> faucon: we do not advise compilation in here, the official ubuntu way is to install packages first.
[15:56] <faucon> daftykins: sorry bro ;-)
[15:59] <thiocy> guys i need. help. can anyone with an ubuntu 12.04 print here the default lightdm.conf file? thanks
[16:05] <karmen> .
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> ... --- ...
[16:06]  * rww rescues SchrodingersScat
[16:06] <daftykins> thiocy: one moment please
[16:06] <apatheticsheep> philinux - meh fugit - i am re-installing - it was a fresh install anyway
[16:07] <e-dard> Hi, if I want to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04, do I just need to switch out raring to trusty in my sources.list and update/upgrade?
[16:07] <e-dard> (I know it's not supported officially)
[16:07] <e-dard> also, this is on a headless server
[16:07] <MadsRC> e-dard you need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <k1l> e-dard: no. you need to upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[16:07] <daftykins> MadsRC: dist-upgrade has nothing to do with upgrading release.
[16:07] <k1l> e-dard: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:08] <MadsRC> Oh yah, crap read that wrong :D
[16:08] <daftykins> thiocy: what's the location of this, for you?
[16:08] <e-dard> k1l: and then once it's done, do it all again to 14.04?
[16:08] <k1l> e-dard: yes
[16:08] <e-dard> k1l: ok,  thanks
[16:08] <k1l> e-dard: that is why we got LTS releases. so you can stay there for longer time and make a lts-lts upgrade (like 12.04 to 14.04)
[16:08] <daftykins> thiocy: oh my bad i was being an idiot, i don't have a desktop install of precise to find it, sorry
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf also. /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf
[16:09] <e-dard> k1l: hmmm, not sure I wanna risk doing this over ssh
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: ok
[16:09] <e-dard> I might just spin up a fresh 14.04 box and migrate things over
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: no problem dude :)
[16:10] <daftykins> thiocy: you could grab them from a quick live session i guess?
[16:10] <k1l> e-dard: well,m your decision. but the upgrades get automated testing. so if you did not change a lot it should work. but as always: have backups for murphys law
[16:10] <e-dard> OK, so to solve my immediate problem - where can I get the patched version of bash for ubuntu 13.04?
[16:10] <e-dard> then I can just sort out a new box in a few days :)
[16:10] <thiocy> what d y mean?
[16:11] <k1l> e-dard: there is none. you will need to patch that yourselve
[16:11] <e-dard> k1l: hmmm, OK
[16:11] <k1l> (and you got other problems and vulnerabilities as well)
[16:12] <thiocy> daftykins: what d y mean?
[16:12] <Armadillos> So what's the best way to update the Nvidia driver in Ubuntu using a PPA? When I try to go from 340 to 343, it won't let me un-install 340.
[16:13] <daftykins> thiocy: just grab the precise ISO, boot it and take the files out to repair your install
[16:14] <jee1mr> Bash bug still not fixed?
[16:17] <k1l> !usn | jee1mr please see that for the bash bug
[16:18] <rww> !usn =~ s/^/<reply> /
[16:20] <phaidros> why can't I create a file larger than 17G on a etx3 fs? ulimit file size is unlimited .. any ideas?
[16:21] <phaidros> 14.04, mount flags: (rw,noatime,nodiratime,acl,errors=remount-ro)
[16:21] <phaidros> anu ideas?
[16:21] <rww> phaidros: which block size are you using?
[16:22] <phaidros> rww bs=10m count=6200
[16:22] <phaidros> I need a laaaarge file :D
[16:22] <rww> phaidros: for the file system, not dd
[16:22] <phaidros> uh
[16:22] <rww> sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep -i 'block size'
[16:22] <rww> replacing sda1 as appropriate
[16:22] <phaidros> ack
[16:23] <phaidros> rww: 1024
[16:23] <rww> ext3 with 1KB blocks has a maximum file size of 16GB.
[16:23] <phaidros> umpf
[16:23] <rww> so depending on how you count, 17GB sounds about right.
[16:23] <phaidros> rww: anything to do about that?
[16:24] <rww> phaidros: how big do you need?
[16:25] <phaidros> rww: 60G
[16:25] <phaidros> how safe is it to change the blocksize in a running fs?
[16:25] <DouglasK> phaidros, if it's mounted, don't.
[16:26] <cih> hey, is it normal that after upgrading ubuntu server from 10.04 to 12.04 my mysql databases are lost? any ideas why?
[16:26] <phaidros> DouglasK: thought so
[16:26] <daftykins> phaidros: you'll have backups of course, so as safe as your backups are reliable!
[16:26] <DouglasK> phaidros, if it's a root fs, boot from a usb stick or CD, change it from there.
[16:26] <rww> is it even possible if it's unmounted without recreating it?
[16:26] <milad1512> when i try to download a file with wget, i get this error : bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(', how can i fix it ?
[16:26] <DouglasK> rww, possibly, if you're moving to a smaller blocksize.
[16:27] <rww> DouglasK: phaidros needs larger ;)
[16:27] <DouglasK> milad1512, possibly by adding a \ before the (
[16:27] <DouglasK> rww, ah.  That sucks.  a good tool might be able to handle it.
[16:27] <rww> phaidros: anyways, the answer I'd go with is "go make a new ext3 filesystem with 2KB or larger blocksize, or use ext4"
[16:28] <phaidros> hm, backups are fine, just that a huge live wiki is living there as well .. so I think I'll create 4x 16GB and then use it as loopback and create a lvg vg over those ^^
[16:28]  * DouglasK concurs with rww
[16:28] <apatheticsheep> how can i move the launcher to the bottom?
[16:28] <rww> apatheticsheep: in Unity? you can't
[16:28] <milad1512> DouglasK , no it doesn't work
[16:30] <facepalm> apatheticsheep, you could set it to hide and install something like cairo-dock.
[16:30] <apatheticsheep> rww ... but ... that's crazy!  you can do anything in Linux :-(
[16:31] <rww> apatheticsheep: sure, but "go look at the Unity code and change it so it moves to the bottom" is outside the scope of #ubuntu ;)
[16:31] <booby_tables_24> ^lol
[16:31] <apatheticsheep> rww i know.  but ... jeez
[16:31] <rww> apatheticsheep: agreed
[16:31] <brent2> step 1) uninstall unity
[16:31] <milad1512> there is a "(" in my link and because of that wget won't download it and gave me an error, This = bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[16:32] <jhutchins> milad1512: You didn't show us the full command you were using.  Perhaps quoting the URL?
[16:32] <apatheticsheep> brent2 - and install what in it's place? gnome? KDE?
[16:33] <brent2> apatheticsheep i like xfce
[16:33] <iveevue> Is kubuntu exactly the same as ubuntu, except with a different DE?
[16:33] <milad1512> jhutchins , YES hahaha, thank you
[16:33] <rww> yes
[16:33] <Wryness> Is there a way to download the text content of a website via terminal and grep it from there in order to filter out specific commands?
[16:33] <Wryness> *specific words
[16:33] <brent2> iveevue: all of the flavors are the same on the back end, the main difference is the DE and how well it integrates
[16:33] <iveevue> ic
[16:34] <apatheticsheep> Wryness wget can output to stdout instead of write to a file
[16:34] <apatheticsheep> Wryness wget -qO- i think
[16:36] <Wryness> thanks, apatheticsheep
[16:44] <btorch_> anyone here uses mini-dinstall ? the Distribution on the .changes file must really match the mini-dinstall.conf [section] ?
[16:48] <FireBeyond> So, the bash vuln... 14.04, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and I still have Version: 4.3-6ubuntu1
[16:48] <swald> helllo
[16:48] <diverdude> Hi, i have a huge binary file (250GB) and its header is ascii. i just want to edit a line in the header How can i do that?
[16:49] <swald> i am a new user for ubuntu desktopm
[16:49] <k1l> FireBeyond: "apt-cache policy bash" in a pastebin please
[16:49] <bettycla1p> I can't upgrade by distro from 12.10 to the next release (13.04, I think). do-release-upgrade doesn't work, not even with -d. Any tips?
[16:49] <bettycla1p> (by -> my)
[16:49] <swald> How do i do to use euro character with thunderbird and gandi account please ?
[16:49] <FireBeyond> http://pastebin.com/djiSNzFk
[16:49] <FireBeyond> which i guess implies installed :)
[16:50] <swald> Please ca you help me ?
[16:50] <bazhang> !manual | swald
[16:50] <k1l> FireBeyond: well yes, that is the patched version, yes
[16:51] <k1l> !eol | bettycla1p
[16:51] <k1l> bettycla1p: you need to change the sources.list because 12.10 is that old it got completly shut down
[16:51] <swald> bazhang, thanks but it's not a problem described in the manual... Thunderbird don't accept euro character in a password for IMAP accounts
[16:52] <bettycla1p> Thanks...
[16:53] <swald> PLease can you help me?
[16:53] <FireBeyond> ty
[16:53] <daftykins> swald: why don't you remove it.
[16:53] <rww> swald: the authentication system you're using does not sufficiently define how to encode non-ASCII characters in passwords. This is not an Ubuntu-specific issue, and the consensus seems to be that you should not use non-ASCII in your passwords.
[16:54] <squinty> swald:  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird
[16:54] <Wryness> How can I give write permissions to my bittorrent client (or any program) on a separate partition?
[16:55] <brent2> Wryness: has to have a filesystem that supports unix permissions (so you can't use ntfs)
[16:55] <swald> rww, squinty thanks
[16:55] <brent2> just mount it and use the chmod command
[16:56] <Wryness> so chmod +x /media/datapartition ?
[16:56] <brent2> is your torrnet client running as a different user?
[16:56] <Wryness> no
[16:56] <brent2> Wryness: for example transmission-daemon runs as its own user
[16:56] <Wryness> its Deluge
[16:56] <brent2> then your user has to have read/write access, that's all
[16:56] <BluesKaj> squinty, share the target folder and set the path to that folder in your bt client
[16:56] <Wryness> and actually it worked until some days ago when I needed to reconfigure my user account
[16:56] <brent2> who owns the data partition?
[16:57] <brent2> or the mount point
[16:57] <Wryness> how can I check if I have rw access and who owns the partition?
[16:57] <brent2> ls -lah
[16:57] <brent2> ls -lah /path
[16:57] <Wryness> wasnt it something like ls -al?
[16:57] <Wryness> ah, k
[16:57] <Wryness> root owns it
[16:57] <squinty> BluesKaj:  comment meant to be directed to Wryness instead?  :)
[16:58] <brent2> Wryness: you have a couple of options, mine look like this http://i.imgur.com/8VmIcZN.png
[16:58] <Wryness> so I guess a chown -R user:user /media/partition would give me permissions?
[16:58] <brent2> I use the "storage" group for this purpose
[16:59] <brent2> what I do is add my user to "storage" and then set chmod 755 on all of it
[16:59] <ooloo> screw it, I'll just reinstall ubuntu on my machine.. now I can't even connect to the internet
[16:59] <ooloo> lol
[16:59] <Wryness> alright, I'll check it out
[16:59] <ooloo> ugh
[16:59] <Wryness> thanks brent2 :)
[16:59] <brent2> Wryness: I think another simple solution is to just mount the partition as your user (which is handled via whatever policy kit thing ubuntu uses), but if you want it to Just Work automatically I think my setup works well
[17:00] <brent2> alternatively you can just chmod 777 everything if you don't care about security
[17:00] <ooloo> the thing that bites is really just tailoring the system.. fixing the scroll bar, turning off some of unity's internet suggestions, etc
[17:00] <Wryness> k
[17:00] <brent2> ooloo: https://fixubuntu.com/
[17:01] <ooloo> thanks brent2
[17:01] <ooloo> that should save me a bit of time at least
[17:02] <ezio> i upgraded my system and my system is still vulnerable
[17:02] <ezio> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365216
[17:03] <k1l> ezio: "apt-cache policy bash" into a pastebin please
[17:04] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncompsci/a8c13d4a6cc580c800fd
[17:05] <bettycla1p> It's still not working. I've found several web pages that explain how to upgrade from 12.10 (including ubuntu's EOL webpages), but do-release-upgrade still does nothing. Help would be much appreciated...
[17:06] <k1l> ezio: you got the actual released patch. there still is some issue but the bash team needs to release the patch first before ubuntu can put that in.
[17:10] <shubhamjain> So if I understand correctly #shellshock is only vulnerable where scripts use system or exec or something like that?
[17:10] <StolenToast> that's the name for this one?
[17:10] <StolenToast> shellshock?
[17:11] <k1l> !usn
[17:11] <shubhamjain> StolenToast, Yup think so. http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about.html
[17:11] <shubhamjain> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[17:12] <Term1nal> Getting this error during a dist-upgrade: syntax error: unknown group 'admin' in statoverride file
[17:12] <Term1nal> in that file, I found this: root admin 4750 /bin/su
[17:21] <hyperchen> hello
[17:22] <adoniscik> Something went haywire in my system and now I'm having difficulty updating any applications due to problems with linux-image-3.2.0-69-generic "dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-69-generic". I've tried following some of the solutions I've foudn online, but I wanted to get a second before re-installing grub because I have a dual boot system. Any advice? http://pastebin.com/dUzHC8fR
[17:22] <hyperchen> could someone help me with ubuntu, I want to install controllerlab but I need some kde package and I dont know which and where I can get them?
[17:23] <daftykins> adoniscik: /boot out of space? that doesn't look like the full error. a pastebin would be good
[17:23] <hyperchen> need kdelibs4c2a but where could I get them?
[17:23] <adoniscik> it's there, daftykins : http://pastebin.com/dUzHC8fR
[17:24] <daftykins> adoniscik: oh sorry, my eyes did not spot that one
[17:24] <daftykins> adoniscik: can you share a "df -h" ?
[17:25] <adoniscik> 94% full (2.7G available) on boot partition
[17:25] <daftykins> i'd rather see the log than an interpretation
[17:26] <adoniscik> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/3XSkE2B0
[17:27] <_joey> how ddo I restart service that controls bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[17:29] <daftykins> adoniscik: get rid of some older kernels via "dpkg -r"
[17:32] <azi`> when ubuntu provide an update for bash fixing the recent bug?
[17:33] <daftykins> azi`: when a fix is out
[17:33] <daftykins> azi`: Canonical can't provide what doesn't exist.
[17:33] <brent2> isn't it already patched?
[17:34] <Pici> There is a preliminary patch.
[17:34] <daftykins> brent2: not successfully
[17:34] <dbristow> We just had a problem where do-release-upgrade was finding nothing to upgrade from (trying to go from 12.10 to the net release) where we had to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from "Prompt=lts" to "Prompt=normal".  Maybe this setting is exposed in the gui, but apparently we didn't find any documentation pointing to this detail.
[17:35] <dbristow> Maybe people in this situation should know about this particular setting?
[17:35] <CharlieTheCabbie> Good evening guys.  Can someone please advise me on this "vulnerability" which has been discovered with bash?  Are we affected by this?
[17:35] <daftykins> dbristow: we wouldn't expect anyone to still be running such an antiquated release
[17:35] <dbristow> Ahhh.   Well.
[17:35] <daftykins> CharlieTheCabbie: yes. first patch available, didn't fix everything... awaiting another patch.
[17:35] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/09/bash-shellshock-bug-is-wormable.html
[17:36] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141597#c23
[17:36] <CharlieTheCabbie> ok daftykins - is it only with bourne, or are the other surrounding shells affected too, like ash and csh?
[17:37] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, do you have a server running CGI scripts?
[17:37] <CharlieTheCabbie> no
[17:37] <Alpy> How do you solve GPT detected error?
[17:37] <carbon13> then no worries and wait for patch
[17:38] <daftykins> Alpy: what are you running and what are you trying to achieve?
[17:38] <carbon13> the bash issue is only interesting for guys using bash for CGI scripts
[17:38] <Alpy> I had a Ubuntu Windows 8.1 dual boot
[17:38] <Alpy> I did something to my partitions and my computer does not boot
[17:39] <daftykins> Alpy: no need to keep pressing enter, i can read nice long lines
[17:39] <CharlieTheCabbie> ok carbon, cheers..   It told me to create an BIOS-boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag), which tried to do on GParted, but i can seem to do it. I can get an unformatted filesystem
[17:43] <Alpy> an Xubuntu CD a friend gave me
[17:44] <Alpy> though Xchat
[17:45] <francesco_> batman ita
[17:45] <francesco_> batman ita
[17:45] <rohanjas2al> can someone help me with the problem happening to my PC??
[17:45] <rohanjas2al> ubuntu is not able to lock the computer
[17:46] <daftykins> !details
[17:46] <rohanjas2al> and more password login is also not working?
[17:47] <rohanjas2al> i have to no idea about the configuration files related to my problem
[17:48] <rohanjas2al> the problem is i cant lock a particular user account in my computer
[17:49] <booby_tables_24> rohanjas2al: "lock" as in prevent them from logging in?
[17:50] <rohanjas2al> yeah
[17:50] <kantlivelong> is there any reason why seahorse doesnt show pubkeys ?
[17:51] <rohanjas2al> the computer is not prompting for password at the time of login
[17:51] <brent2> rohanjas2al: you using the unity desktop?
[17:51] <Shaba1> hello all
[17:52] <Shaba1> Can anyyone reccomend a good tutorial for a intermediate windows user to get him/her up and running with linux/ubuntu
[17:52] <Shaba1> preferably in pdf format so I can print it out
[17:53] <daftykins> !manual
[17:53] <daftykins> Shaba1: ^
[17:53] <brent2> rohanjas2al: settings -> user accounts has everything you need for that
[17:53] <quants> Shabal i just played and used the Ubuntu Wiki / Forum
[17:54] <booby_tables_24> rohanjas2al: https://i.stack.imgur.com/a1yot.jpg
[17:55] <brent2> what'd you use to add the arrows booby_tables_24 ?
[17:55] <brent2> or is this not your pic
[17:55] <booby_tables_24> brent2 I got it from a stackoverflow answer
[17:55] <brent2> oic
[17:56] <reisio> dia would work
[18:00] <Nyem> hi there
[18:00] <booby_tables_24> Hi
[18:01] <Nyem> does ubuntu still contain spyware in it by default?
[18:01] <booby_tables_24> Yup
[18:01] <Nyem> that sucks.
[18:02]  * Nyem will come back again to ask in half a year
[18:02] <brent2> Nyem:
[18:02] <brent2> https://fixubuntu.com/
[18:02] <minimec> Nyem: I guess the gnome3 edition of ubuntu could be a solution for you.
[18:03] <Nyem> minimec, Linux Mint was, has been and is :) never been happier before with my system actually
[18:04] <Nyem> however, I'm just sad looking at how things turned out with ubuntu
[18:04] <brent2> they removed it in 14.10 didn't they?
[18:05] <GuszZzZ> hi
[18:05] <Nyem> the site says it's there but disabled by default
[18:05] <reisio> heyo
[18:05] <Nyem> which is kind of too late for me to ever trust the system again
[18:05] <brent2> lol
[18:06] <brent2> well, if that bugs you, I'm surprised you're running mint
[18:06] <Nyem> why would you be?
[18:06] <Nyem> Mint's a great system
[18:06] <BluesKaj> there's always KDE
[18:06] <brent2> I meant if those features being there but disabled bothered you
[18:06] <n0m> hey guys, this where i can get some help on installing?
[18:06] <reisio> you changed to a distro still wholly dependent on Ubuntu instead of running an apt-get remove
[18:06] <reisio> n0m: yup
[18:06] <brent2> Nyem: are you running coreboot and only foss software? :P
[18:07] <n0m> great! I've made a post already on the forums, no responses yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245707&p=13129047#post13129047
[18:07] <Nyem> reisio, yes, but I did that because I trust the people who deliver the final product
[18:07] <brent2> just imagine: every piece of proprietary software on your system could potentially be a bomb!
[18:07] <brent2> ッ
[18:07] <reisio> Nyem: you trust them to audit every last line of code? :p
[18:07] <Nyem> brent2, well, sending all my private disk searches to amazon is kinda a big thing, don't you think?
[18:08] <rww> So turn it off, or use a non-Unity Ubuntu flavor.
[18:08] <daftykins> n0m: you used the mac ISO yes?
[18:08] <Nyem> reisio, of course I do;>
[18:08] <brent2> Nyem: yeah I agree, but if it's disabled in 14.10 I think the problem is fixed
[18:08] <rww> (hint: there's an option in System Settings to do so, no need for that nonsense site)
[18:08] <n0m> mac iso? for refit?
[18:08] <reisio> k :P
[18:08] <brent2> dunno why they did that in the first place, seems like there are better ways to monetize
[18:08] <daftykins> n0m: mac ISO of ubuntu server
[18:08] <brent2> plus Nyem, xubuntu beats the pants off of mint
[18:08] <brent2> ;)
[18:08] <n0m> daftykins: oh my god. are there two different ones?
[18:08] <Nyem> brent2, will try that distro in a sec.
[18:09] <english-> hi folks, anyway to manually upgrade bash on 12.10 without upgrading the whole OS?
[18:09] <Nyem> brent2, and it was a very bad decision, I practically lost trust to these people forever, even windows does not backf*k their users this bad
[18:09] <rww> english-: 12.10 went EOL on May 16th and is not supported in this channel. Mixing repositories from different Ubuntu versions is a bad idea. Upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu, and then come back.
[18:10] <n0m> daftykins: i'm not seeing a mac ISO here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:10] <n0m> where is it?
[18:10] <daftykins> n0m: correct, also does your post intimate that your mac is a 7,1 ?
[18:10] <n0m> yep mbp 7.1
[18:10] <StolenToast> is 12.04 eol?
[18:10] <rww> StolenToast: no
[18:10] <StolenToast> last i checked it was extended
[18:10] <daftykins> no it's a comma, not a period
[18:10] <rww> StolenToast: 12.10 is not an LTS, 12.04 is.
[18:10] <StolenToast> gotcha
[18:10] <english-> hmm, I guess I'd get that kind of response rww , but I would have thought there would be a hack
[18:11] <rww> english-: There probably is, but it's not supported here if so, so we don't provide it.
[18:11] <brent2> Nyem: windows does a lot of shady things, half of which nobody may ever know
[18:11] <english-> no deb no deb file?
[18:11] <brent2> the amazon thing sucks but it's not the end of the world
[18:11] <english-> ups sorry :)
[18:11] <daftykins> english-: you should not be running an EOL release - we cannot help you
[18:11] <Bashing-om> StolenToast: Ubuntu 12.04 is LTS, (L)ubuntu 12.04 is not. Are you using u-buntu ?
[18:11] <Nyem> brent2, I'm sure they do, but they just don't advertise themselves as the most private and secure system out there
[18:12] <StolenToast> I am on oo-buntoo
[18:12] <kostkon> !ot | Nyem
[18:12] <brent2> lol
[18:12] <k1l_> english-: your system doesnt only have that shelstorm issue right now. so only exchanging bash doesnt make your system all good
[18:12] <daftykins> n0m: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/
[18:12] <Nyem> !ot | kostkon
[18:13] <daftykins> n0m: give it a whirl with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64+mac.iso
[18:13] <brent2> don't things like heartbleed and this new bash bug totally wreck a lot of consumer-tier routers? mine runs dd-wrt and I doubt it'll ever be updated for this sort of thing
[18:13] <StolenToast> I think so
[18:13] <StolenToast> gg
[18:13] <daftykins> brent2: that is off topic here, this is an ubuntu support channel
[18:13] <donbirdy> omygerd we're being hacked
[18:13] <brent2> daftykins: kk
[18:13] <n0m> daftykins: i'm going to be... upset if this is it
[18:13] <n0m> lol
[18:13] <k1l_> brent2: well, that is a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic since that is clearly not only ubunut related
[18:13] <brent2> yeah k1l_ i heard
[18:13] <daftykins> n0m: i'd be happy that there's a solution! be sure to let me know how you get on
[18:14] <n0m> bout to burn the disc, will report back
[18:14] <brent2> dejavu in here
[18:14] <Nyem> STOP IT WITH THE OFFTOPIC, YOU SHOULD'VE NAMED THE CHANNEL #UBUNTU-HELP TO MAKE IT CLEAR
[18:14] <Nyem> geez
[18:14] <Nyem> that's just dumb
[18:15] <k1l_> Nyem: you are free to: read the guidelines. please dont use caps in here and insults/swearing. thanks
[18:15] <kostkon> ..and the channel topic
[18:15] <Nyem> k1l_, you are free to kiss my ass
[18:15] <bazhang> Nyem, are you on MINT?
[18:15] <kostkon> channel's*
[18:15] <n0m> daftykins: btw, so do you know the the "stopping foo [OK]" stuff was all about?
[18:16] <Nyem> bazhang, yeah, I'm on mint
[18:16] <daftykins> n0m: sounded like it was giving you some text mode bootup and not switching to a TTY very quickly. i wouldn't worry about it too much
[18:16] <bazhang> Nyem, mintsupport is on irc spotchat not here
[18:16] <daftykins> !mint
[18:16] <k1l_> Nyem: so please ask the mint guys in the mint channels. like the mint channels are set to default channels in your irc client anyway
[18:16] <Nyem> I don't have any mint questions
[18:17] <Nyem> why would you even bring that up
[18:17] <bazhang> Nyem, this is not a chit chat channel, thats why
[18:17] <Nyem> where will I find #ubuntu-chitchat?
[18:17] <daftykins> !offtopic
[18:17] <Nyem> cannot locate it @freenode
[18:17] <bazhang> -offtopic
[18:17] <erikk> Hello
[18:17] <n0m> daftykins: the only reason i brought it up is that it doesn't always show. just right before its going to shutdown (kind of like how the blue screen precedes shutdown on windows)
[18:17] <kostkon> erikk, hi
[18:17] <erikk> how can i make a daemon in C ?
[18:18] <daftykins> this is not a software development channel
[18:18] <erikk> sorry
[18:18] <StolenToast> is this a cake baking channel?
[18:18] <bazhang> try ##c perhaps
[18:18] <reisio> StolenToast: if you're using ubuntu to do it
[18:18] <StolenToast> guys I'm having trouble with gnu-bake on 12.04.5
[18:19] <bazhang> .5?
[18:19] <StolenToast> yeah 12.04.5
[18:19] <bazhang> whats the issue
[18:19] <StolenToast> it got a little version bump a couple weeks ago
[18:19] <bazhang> !info gnu-bake
[18:19] <StolenToast> I'm jokin, gnu-bake is not real
[18:19] <daftykins> StolenToast: please do not time waste
[18:19] <reisio> heh
[18:19] <bazhang> StolenToast, please dont joke around here
[18:20] <StolenToast> okay ,_,
[18:20] <brent2> http://i.imgur.com/zafffSk.png
[18:21] <daftykins> we cut down on chit chat and timewasting so people can be helped, it is a good thing.
[18:22] <reisio> says the only person talking :p
[18:22] <brent2> ^
[18:22] <daftykins> reisio: you should know better.
[18:22] <reisio> than wasting my time pointing out ironies, yes :p
[18:29] <Grimlock1182> when i update my software in ubuntu 14.04 this is the display message "Requires installation of untrusted package" this require installing packages from unauthenticated sources... PLEASE HELP....:(
[18:29] <pavlos> is there a way to rebuild all the icons in the system settings? running 14.04, gnome2 but my system settings has 6 icons only
[18:29] <LinStatSDR> sounds like ppa
[18:31] <n0m> daftykins: btw, do i need grub? i've got refind
[18:31] <trism> pavlos: sudo apt-get install unity-control-center; if by gnome 2 you mean gnome flashback
[18:31] <daftykins> n0m: not sure, have you seen the support page?
[18:31] <bazhang> fallback?
[18:32] <n0m> for ubuntu server? or refind?
[18:32] <daftykins> !mac | n0m
[18:32] <n0m> thanks
[18:32] <priuon> Hello. Is it possible to revert all changes done to a ubuntu installation?
[18:32] <theadmin> priuon: reinstall?
[18:32] <priuon> I mean without reinstalling everything
[18:33] <theadmin> priuon: Uh, no.
[18:33] <priuon> theadmin: to bad.
[18:33] <priuon> theadmin: Is it possible to have a static wlan interface configuration that won't be loaded on boot?
[18:34] <pavlos> trism, thank you, that did it (by gnome 2 I meant fallback)
[18:34] <daftykins> priuon: configure a profile with network-manager and set it to not auto connect
[18:34] <donbirdy> Has this shellshock stuff been patched?
[18:35] <Pici> donbirdy: as much as it can be at this point.
[18:35] <daftykins> donbirdy: yes, but it's not a comprehensive fix, awaiting the final one still.
[18:35] <k1l_> donbirdy: yes, just run the regular updates
[18:35] <_marco> I'm running a single fullscreen aplication with multiple windows on X (no window manager). How to I disable sloppy focus (focus follows mouse) default xorg behaviour? Is there a command line tool for that?
[18:35] <AngrySlothMafia> Hey guyz
[18:35] <dman777> uh...I can't just update my bash? I have to upgrade my ubuntu system?
[18:36] <priuon> daftkins: I am bound to the shell atm. The Networkmanager is not really an option. the /etc/network/interfaces file is what I am considering about this
[18:36] <daftykins> priuon: good luck then
[18:36] <Pici> dman777: We're not asking you to upgrade to a new Ubuntu release. You should be doing regular updates though.
[18:36] <k1l_> dman777: there are still other security issues besides bash and shellstorm. so running updates is a good idea anyways
[18:37] <priuon> daftkins: I had more bad luck about all this then I could ever imagine
[18:37] <SweLartz> hey guys do i have to have a problem to talk here or is it ok to just say hi? ^^
[18:37] <Pici> SweLartz: This channel is for support only, if you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <dman777> Pici: well, I did apt-get update and it didn't find a new version of bash with apt-get install bash
[18:37] <reisio> SweLartz: people say hi
[18:37] <dman777> 4.2-5ubuntu3
[18:38] <SweLartz> wow quick answer :P
[18:38] <Pici> dman777: you'll need an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade for that.  'update' only downloads new index ifles.
[18:38] <donbirdy> I think we should shut down the internet for a few days whilst this problem is sorted out
[18:38] <dman777> Pici: thanks
[18:39] <GlenK> hi.   It looks like an upgrade to 14.04 will be a step per release, for something like 4 upgrades. Is that accurate?
[19:04] <ketralni`> Also, there's no chance in hell 10.10 still has a working security package repo anywhere is there?
[19:05] <ketralni`> Specifically for this shellshock vuln
[19:05] <k1l_> ketralni`: no way.
[19:05] <Sonderblade> noone knows what the unmet dependency message mean?
[19:05] <Bashing-om> ketralni`: You have it right, a LONG process now to get current. 2) nope, there is no support for an old release.
[19:06] <Sleepnbum> Bashing-om: thanks!  i'm contantly getting "unable to locate package" for several different installation packages... could the error be related to my use of Live CD?
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Sleepnbum: Hard to say .. What release is the liveDVD ?
[19:07] <slopjong> Bashing-om, this is not commented out "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security";
[19:07] <DJones> ketralni`: 10.10 hasn't had updates since April 2012, I suspect you're missing more security updates than just shellshock
[19:07] <Sleepnbum> Bashing-om: 14.04
[19:07] <Sleepnbum> i'm pretty new to linux, so it's probably my fault
[19:08] <teward> ketralni`: 10.10 is way past end of life, and is no longer supported, you should upgrade to an LTS release or a still supported release (next version up from 10.10 that is still supported is 12.04)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Ummm, You will not get good performance, nor a good experience of ubuntu from running on a liveDVD. What hampers you from doing the actual install ??
[19:09] <ketralni`> I wonder if it makes more sense to upgrade bash by hand so I have more time to plan a proper upgrade process then
[19:09] <slopjong> Bashing-om, you meant Sleepnbum
[19:09] <Sleepnbum> lol
[19:10] <erp2them1> So this bash bug... How serious of a threat is it?
[19:10] <Sleepnbum> i have a yoga 2 laptop and the wireless driver doesn't look like it'll work with linux without serious workarounds
[19:10] <ketralni`> erp2them1 It's pretty bad. Anything that can set env variables can execute arbitrary code
[19:10] <xangua> ketralni`: you look so worried about a single security issue but you weren't for who knows what others in two years?
[19:10] <squinty> ketralni`:   http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[19:11] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Yeah .. sorry bout that ( I really should try and slow down on this 'fast' IRC ), will try and pay morte attentipn.
[19:11] <ketralni`> This server doesn't do much, so this is the first major one that hits me. Even heartbleed was for one openssl release *after* my version
[19:11] <slopjong> Bashing-om, but you can tell me what it exactly means if this line is not commented out: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security";
[19:11] <pivA> any tips on updating bash in 13.04? I know, it's not supported but I wasn't the one who made the decision to not use LTS and also not automate this freaking machine :/
[19:12] <slopjong> Bashing-om, cron-apt isn't installed and no other crons are setup so security packages should not be auto-updated, should they?
[19:12] <xangua> pivA: upgrade to a supported release
[19:12] <erp2them1> ketralni`: oh dang. I can see how that can be a problem, thanks.
[19:12] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Where are you seeing that line ? Does not ring a bell presently with me.
[19:12] <k1l_> pivA: you will need to patch that on your own now
[19:13] <pivA> xangua: I want to, I'm already automating that machine but there are things running that no one knows how or why they are that way... It's messy
[19:13] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Maybe this will shed some light: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html .
[19:13] <pivA> k1l_: ok, so, recompiling and building from scratch, thanks!
[19:13] <ketralni`> squinty: am I reading that right that http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ has a patch for Ubuntu 10.04? I can probably force that version
[19:14] <vhyg> ciao
[19:14] <squinty> ketamin:  seems so.
[19:14] <vhyg> !list
[19:15] <alistair> hello i am using jack through hdmi so i can mix a track to sound right on the tv but the audio is coming through slowed down. how can i get it to work normally please?
[19:15] <squinty> ketamin: fwiw, read the same on another reference yesterday but they specifically mentioned 10.04 server edition.. not sure why though.
[19:18] <andradei> msg/ NickServ identify sargas Piano1987!()
[19:18] <ObrienDave> thank you for sharing your password
[19:18] <english-> oh dear
[19:18] <squinty> heh
[19:19] <english-> change it quickly!
[19:19] <semitones__> help! I booted up a windows recovery partition and then got a grub error. Gparted now says that where my ubuntu partition was is now "unallocated" can I recover my partition?
[19:20] <mah454> Hello
[19:20] <TNSC_DMB> hi
[19:20] <mah454> this is my lvm.conf , Why systemd can not mount lvm partitions ? http://pastebay.net/1498486
[19:20] <mah454> please view that ...
[19:21] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Maybe -> testdisk. when Windows' recovery is done, Windows thinks it is the only operating system in the world and will wipe all in attempting to "restore" Windows.
[19:21] <squinty> semitones__:  maybe with  testdisk   read description by   apt show testdisk
[19:21] <semitones__> Bashing-om: squinty, thanks, I'll try getting testdisk
[19:22] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Good, might wnat to boot a liveDVD of 'buntu and see if fdisk/gdisk/GParted think of the hard disk.
[19:23] <semitones__> Bashing-om: i'm in that environment right now: all my partitions are there, except the ubuntu one
[19:23] <semitones__> Bashing-om: squinty I can't find testdisk in apt-get or the app manager
[19:24] <sargas> Thanks guys, a little bit of entertainment here to you... No one stole my account so  :D
[19:24] <Bashing-om> semitones__: testdisk tutorial -> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[19:25] <Bashing-om> semitones__: What release are you running ? in an current updated system, testdisk is available in the repo.
[19:26] <semitones__> Bashing-om: this is a 13.10 live usb
[19:26] <sargas> Question: can I use Powerline Shell on an Ubuntu Server with no GUI?
[19:26] <sargas> or just change the font to a TTY one of my choice?
[19:26] <semitones__> Bashing-om: looks like it should be availiable: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/testdisk/
[19:26] <malkauns_> what on earth is Powerline Shell??
[19:27] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Nope, repository no longer exist as you may have known it - End-Of-Life is no more support .
[19:27] <semitones__> Bashing-om: ok. I'll make a new usb
[19:27] <sargas> malkauns_: an awesome TTY tool
[19:27] <sargas> malkauns_, https://github.com/milkbikis/powerline-shell
[19:27] <jhc76> if I need to update the bash on 13.04 ( due to vulnerability ) what is the best method to doing so?
[19:28] <k1l_> jhc76: patch it yourself
[19:28] <Bashing-om> semitones__: That will work, and also, you may birn testdisk to a bootable DVD . -> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step .
[19:28] <Bashing-om> birn/burn*
[19:29] <k1l_> jhc76: since 13.04 is out of life some time now you dont get and updates from ubuntu anymore. so you need to work it yourself. and shellstorm bug is not your only issue
[19:29] <jhc76> if I replace the shell with zsh, would it prevent the vulnerability?
[19:30] <jhc76> 13.04 is slated to be retired in few months.
[19:30] <jhc76> in our operation. so until then I need to find a work around to block the vulnerability
[19:34] <sergio-br2> hello
[19:35] <sergio-br2> i just installed ubuntu in one sony vaio
[19:35] <sergio-br2> and it has broadcom wifi/bluetooth card
[19:35] <sergio-br2> in the Live, i managed to install the driver
[19:35] <cheus> Hi. I've been recently seeing some problems with apt in trusty and I'm curious if some of the repositories have been moved.  Maybe ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245682 . for manual instructions for the CURRENT release.
[19:37] <ObrienDave> sergio-br2, sending refund your way
[19:37] <sergio-br2> how can i install broadcom drivers if i can't access internet?
[19:39] <squinty> sergio-br2:  maybe try burning an iso onto usb with persistence (unetbootin software) and then use apt-get to download (not install) the relevant b43 files .
[19:39] <sergio-br2> if i connect my usb drive that i used to install ubuntu, it will be recognized by system as the ubuntu cdrom?
[19:39] <sergio-br2> i don't have idea what the packages to download
[19:40] <Wryness> In a simple sh script while loop with an increasing $i, how can I stop the script from overwriting the fetched data (which it writes to a file) everytime the $i value increases?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> sergio-br2: the Vaio and broadcom drivers are problematic.  I feel stupid. how do I do this?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, it's not on the live cd packages repos . Do you have a working internet connection ?
[20:04] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: yes. I did sudo apt-get update
[20:04] <DouglasK> 4:04 pm.  Time not found
[20:05] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: I thought ubuntu software center would search through universe and multiverse, but it does not?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, odd because it's in the universe repos
[20:06] <xangua> twinsemitones: software center, edit, sources, enable all sources
[20:06] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: after I enabled universe in software sources it worked! That is weird though, usually ubuntu software center still sees stuff that's in universe
[20:06] <ObrienDave> not if the repo is not active
[20:07] <ObrienDave> *enabled
[20:07] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, ok so the universe was commented
[20:07] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: yep, good to go now. Hopefully it recovers my partition!
[20:08] <BluesKaj> wish you luck, never used it before
[20:10] <bashfr3ak> why my daemon crashes when i change the port in sshd_config to anything else other than 22 ? any one knows the answer for this?
[20:15] <twinsemitones> Ok this is weird -- testdisk shows the partitions as being healthy, but gparted shows "unallocated space." How do I get them back?
[20:15] <brainproxy> anything desktop sharing option as dead simple as https://join.me which works for linux?
[20:15] <brainproxy> *any desktop..
[20:16] <gremlyn> I was upgrading a remote server with do-release-upgrade and got a broken pipe in the middle, and the upgrade was awaiting input on keeping or overwriting some apache file
[20:16] <gremlyn> what to do now?
[20:16] <brainproxy> also, on the hunt for a way to make "control-lick" work as "right click" in ubuntu
[20:16] <gremlyn> brainproxy, not as deadsimple, but I think webex works
[20:16] <twinsemitones> Ok before I do anything foolish in testdisk, do i need to highlight all the partitions in green, or just the ones that have been deleted?
[20:20] <ketralni`> In case anyone else is as dumb as I am to run 10.10, I was able to fix bash by going to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6400979 and downloading those deps, then installing with dpkg -i bash_4.1-2ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[20:21] <reisio> ketralni`: you got a web server?
[20:21] <bekks> ketralni`: you should upgrade to a supported ubuntu release immediately.
[20:22] <ketralni`> It's a mail server, but things like procmail may be exploitable
[20:22] <leeyaa> hey guys
[20:22] <reisio> mmm
[20:22] <reisio> leeyaa: 'lo
[20:22] <twinsemitones> alright i'm gonna reboot, wish me luck!
[20:22] <ketralni`> bekks: totally agreed, but this will mean that I can do it on purpose instead of under duress :)
[20:22] <leeyaa> is ubuntu vulnerable to shellshock cve ?
[20:22] <ketralni`> Yes
[20:22] <gremlyn> pretty sure all linux is
[20:22] <gremlyn> I got updates for it this morning
[20:22] <ketralni`> leeyaa: do this: export x='() { :;}; echo bar'; bash -c 'echo baz'
[20:22] <k1l_> !shellshock | leeyaa
[20:22] <reisio> all of old bash is
[20:22] <claude2> does anyone here know why snmpd wants to install mysql in 14.04?
[20:22] <ketralni`> If you get "bar " and then "baz", you're vulnerable
[20:22] <reisio> although technically if you aren't running some kind of server, it's not likely to matter much
[20:22] <leeyaa> i thought ubuntu is using dash, no?
[20:23] <k1l_> leeyaa: for users its bash
[20:23] <bekks> gremlyn: Those updates do not fix all issues.
[20:23] <leeyaa> right so i need to update some 200+ servers, 80% of them eol -.-
[20:23] <gremlyn> bekks... no? doh!
[20:23] <bekks> leeyaa: Every system with bash installed is vulnerable.
[20:23] <reisio> leeyaa: why're they eol? :p
[20:23] <leeyaa> reisio: long story.
[20:23] <reisio> heh
[20:23] <leeyaa> ubuntu 6 ;p
[20:24] <reisio> well, you can merely disable bash in the interim, if you care to
[20:24] <leeyaa> i mean it is not my call to update the app software
[20:24] <reisio> leeyaa: I feel you
[20:24] <reisio> hope you get overtime for cleaning up someone else's mess
[20:24] <gremlyn> bekks, so why wasn't a full fix pushed out?
[20:24] <leeyaa> we are on the way to switch to 14.04 LTS though
[20:24] <reisio> gremlyn: doesn't exist yet
[20:24] <gremlyn> oh
[20:24] <k1l_> gremlyn: read the message from bot
[20:25] <leeyaa> ketralni`: what does export x='() { :;}; echo bar'; bash -c 'echo baz' tell me btw ?
[20:25] <reisio> leeyaa: if you get bar, your bash is unpatched
[20:25] <leeyaa> if it prints bar and baz i should upgrade ?
[20:25] <ketralni`> Yes
[20:25] <leeyaa> thanks
[20:25] <ketralni`> btw it's not just for servers: https://www.trustedsec.com/september-2014/shellshock-dhcp-rce-proof-concept/
[20:26] <ketralni`> Loads of stuff uses env variables
[20:26] <leeyaa> yeah
[20:26] <reisio> ketralni`: that doesn't start with 'start a server'?
[20:26] <leeyaa> btw how to apply just security fixes ?
[20:26] <ketralni`> Yes, you start a DHCP server that then explots DHCP clients
[20:26] <reisio> so first you have to have already compromised a network :p
[20:27] <reisio> seems contrived
[20:27] <reisio> leeyaa: you can update bash alone
[20:27] <reisio> leeyaa: although if it's eol, there are probably other issues
[20:27] <ketralni`> (1) Not hard to get on a coffee shop wifi and run a DHCP server and (2) Sure, my point is just that there are more avenues than CGI
[20:27] <reisio> yeah, but coffee shop wifi is insecure regardless of bash
[20:27] <reisio> always, forever
[20:28] <leeyaa> reisio: they are behind pretty secure firewall
[20:28] <ketralni`> inscure in traffic snooping, sure. insecure in remote code execution? I sure as hell hope not
[20:28] <reisio> leeyaa: just saying :)
[20:28] <leeyaa> reisio: i would like to apply all security updates on the vms that are not eol
[20:28] <reisio> everytime you connect to a strange network you're rolling the dice
[20:28] <nullbyte_> other variant to update gnome i know for PPA
[20:28] <nullbyte_> ?
[20:29] <leeyaa> so how to do only security updates, unattended ?
[20:30] <k1l_> nullbyte_: besides PPA?
[20:32] <leeyaa> is it unattended-upgrade ?
[20:32] <ulrichard> How can I suppress the installation of files in a certain directory (/usr/bin) for a deb package that uses python_distutils? I would usually create a debian/install file that lists all the other directories. But in this case I get errors telling me it doesn't find the files in these other directories.
[20:33] <betternick> hi!
[20:35] <imbezol> hey guys.. any idea why an apt-cache search would return lots of results while an aptitude search returns none?
[20:36] <imbezol> seems to be that way on multiple systems.
[20:36] <imbezol> ex: "apt-cache search commodore" vs "aptitude search commodore"
[20:36] <TJ-> imbezol: By default apt-cache searches all text, not just names (use "--names-only")
[20:36] <imbezol> TJ-: ok. can aptitude search all text?
[20:37] <TJ-> imbezol: I don't know; I don't use it
[20:38] <Crontical> ../.net
[20:38] <imbezol> http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html
[20:38] <delinquentme> It is exceptionally annoying that SOMETIMES I need to hit tab once ... to swap between windows on a desktop ... and other times I need to hit it twice ... is there a way I can make it always one tab to toggle between windows?
[20:39] <imbezol> nk
[20:40] <imbezol> tj-: thx. put me on the right track. "aptitude search ~dcommodore" would be equivalent
[20:45] <hichris123> hmm, I strace'd the sigaction.c from http://crbug.com/245680 running as both root and my user, and here's what I got: my user: https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/631beef99770c29bfab1 root: https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/f2c1011a6addab46fa48
[20:46] <hichris123> Why wouldn't I be allowed to use sigaction as a normal user, but I would as root?
[20:47] <samthewildone> Ok I need to speak to a professional.
[20:47] <samthewildone> Is there a way to fix the bluetooth ?
[20:47] <samthewildone> Let me rephrase, bluetooth works. However to connect to it via my headset it a pain everytime I want to use my headset.
[20:48] <Bubo> any ideas why after boot-repair it didn't boot into ubuntu nor it gave me a menu to choose from it just went in windows?
[20:48] <Bubo> on uefi
[20:48] <samthewildone> I literally have to remove the device from the bluetooth devices and repair it again.
[20:48] <Eremo> hell
[20:49] <Eremo> hello*
[20:49] <Eremo> is it possible to ask a technical question here related with apt ?
[20:49] <chalalameon> sad
[20:50] <k1l_> Eremo: just ask, if its a ubuntu issue
[20:50] <Eremo> i read support channel, sorry im not used to freenode
[20:50] <testerr> Hello, all! I'm trying to run a script with the following permissions (from ls -l): -rwxrwx--x 1 root root     I'm getting "permission denied," though, trying to execute as a non-root user. Shouldn't any user be able to run the script with those permissions, even if it's owned by root?
[20:50] <xangua> samthewildone: you could start by mentioning our searching about your specific bluetooth
[20:50] <Eremo> i have like a broken package, and i cant install or uninstall it
[20:50] <Eremo> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:50] <testerr> (This is in 14.04 Server)
[20:51] <squinty> Bubo:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   see if any of that applies to your system
[20:51] <Eremo> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.19-11_al.deb (--unpack)
[20:51] <Eremo> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)
[20:51] <Eremo> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:52] <Eremo> all started when tried to install build-esentials
[20:52] <cjenkin1> Is there somewhere else I can go besides #linux-wireless for help with my wireless troubles? The channel is basically dead
[20:52] <Bubo> squinty, no. I've had the same problem with arch linux. Been trying to install it for 2 days, it always and up booting into windows no matter which bootloader I try (gummiboot, grub) so I gave up and tried ubuntu.. same thing
[20:53] <nullbyte_> k1l_: ?
[20:53] <cjenkin1> Or alternatively, if anyone here is a semi-expert on Ubuntu 10.10 and wpa_supplicant 0.6.10 and wants to give me a hand...?
[20:53] <k1l_> Eremo: put all the output into a pastebin please
[20:53] <ObrienDave> cjenkin1, what system are you running?
[20:53] <k1l_> !paste | Eremo
[20:53] <cjenkin1> ObrienDave: Hardware?
[20:53] <Eremo> k1l_ ok ill
[20:54] <nullbyte_> k1l_: what
[20:54] <ObrienDave> cjenkin1, linux version
[20:54] <cjenkin1> ObrienDave: Ubuntu 10.10, wpa_supplicant 0.6.10, kernel 2.6.38+
[20:54] <k1l_> nullbyte_: can you please rephrase your question?
[20:54] <hichris123> Anyone here know about sigaction at all? Or able to help read a strace? What does this mean? https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/631beef99770c29bfab1
[20:55] <nullbyte_> k1l_: i mean there is not other variant like pppa for newer gnome version?
[20:55] <nullbyte_> no..
[20:55] <pce> hi
[20:55] <cjenkin1> And before you say anything, no I cannot get a newer version of Ubuntu. The hardware is a special embedded system
[20:55] <nullbyte_> pce hi pci EXPRESS
[20:55] <nullbyte_> :)
[20:55] <pce> :)
[20:55] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what is the system ?
[20:55] <k1l_> nullbyte_: no. the versions stay the same on the release. just a next release will get a newer gnome-shell
[20:56] <nullbyte_> k1l_ okey :)
[20:56] <nullbyte_> thx
[20:56] <cjenkin1> ikonia: a in-house machine with an i.MX53 CPU and a special Sagrad wireless device
[20:56] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what arch is it ?
[20:56] <cjenkin1> Arm
[20:56] <Eremo> k1l_ do you know anyhow to copy text inside a VM through vmware?
[20:56] <pce> cu soon
[20:56] <ikonia> yeah, that's not going to get supported here
[20:56] <ikonia> cjenkin1: sadly 10.10 is dead and the arm distro is community (dead really) support.
[20:57] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I get that I can't get help for the hardware, but I'd like to find someone to help me interpret what the software level stuff is saying, at least
[20:57] <cjenkin1> But I think I need a semi-expert for that
[20:57] <ikonia> cjenkin1: I don't think you need semi-expert
[20:57] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what's the error ?
[20:58] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I am able to access some APs, but one type always times out on authentication
[20:58] <cjenkin1> It's WPS, WPA-CCMP (at least this one)
[20:58] <ikonia> cjenkin1: thats not the software
[20:59] <ikonia> cjenkin1: you stated you wanted someone to interperate what the software is saying
[20:59] <ikonia> cjenkin1: so what's the software messages
[20:59] <wad> I'm using 14.04 LTS, and I'm trying to build some code that depends on automake-1.13. But "apt-get install automake" installed version 1.14 instead. What's the right way to install 1.13? Is there a .deb somewhere I could just install? Or am I doing this wrong? Thanks in advance!
[20:59] <cjenkin1> one about "TX EAPOL: dropped in non-802.11 mode" looks the most promising
[21:00] <ikonia> so if it's dropping to non-802.11 mode means it's communicating outside the 802.11 standard
[21:00] <ikonia> or wants to communicate outside the standard
[21:00] <cjenkin1> Right, but I thought WPA-CCMP was in the 802.11 family?
[21:01] <ikonia> cjenkin1: that isn't really relevent, as for whatever reason it's not using the 802.11 standard comms
[21:01] <hichris123> hmm, looks like what it chokes on is bdflush, because "bdflush() = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)"
[21:01] <ikonia> I'm sure errors before/after would help explain why
[21:01] <hichris123> I wonder where bdflush is getting called: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/attachmentText?id=245680&aid=2456800004000&name=sigaction.c&token=ABZ6GAf95eWFG8nnsr7GczIPxbA8eIsooQ%3A1411677274123
[21:02] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I've studied the logs of both the successful and unsuccessful connects with Meld and there's honestly not a big difference.
[21:02] <cjenkin1> The fail one is seen as a WPS-AP, the succeed a WPA-AP
[21:02] <ikonia> apart from one is communicating outside the 802.11 standard
[21:02] <ikonia> which is is a pretty big difference
[21:03] <cjenkin1> Right, I mean besides that one
[21:03] <ikonia> cjenkin1: that's pretty critical though
[21:03] <TJ-> cjenkin1: Isn't the message actually "...802.1X mode ..." not "... 802.11 mode ..." ?
[21:03] <cjenkin1> Ok, well at least it seems I'm on the right track
[21:04] <cjenkin1> TJ-: Yes, with a variable
[21:04] <TJ-> cjenkin1: 802.1X is a port-based authentication method
[21:04] <ikonia> cjenkin1: be specific if what TJ- thats a different message and means a different thing
[21:05] <cjenkin1> ikonia: Apologies. Very unfamiliar with wireless protocols
[21:05] <cjenkin1> Definitely is: non-IEEE 802.1x mode
[21:08] <cjenkin1> Oh dear, I just realized that I have to go. D: Sorry to ask a question and split. If you're around later and still want to help, I'll be back later. Thanks for trying to help :)
[21:09]  * aerocarbine is saying hi
[21:09] <jr_> Is there something being done about "shellshock"?
[21:09] <jr_> can I patch it somehow?
[21:10] <k1l_> !shellstorm | jr_
[21:10] <jr_> ?
[21:10] <TJ-> jr__ if you really want to, but better to just install the security updates
[21:10] <k1l_> !shellshock | jr_
[21:10] <jr_> thanks
[21:10] <jr_> TJ-: could I just run apt-get upgrade?
[21:11] <k1l_> jr_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:11] <TJ-> jr_: We're still waiting for the full fix that covers CVE-2014-7169 as well
[21:11] <squinty> jr_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[21:13] <R13ose> how come I can't play an mp4 file in vlc media player?
[21:14] <Eremo> guys, to send output to a textfile in terminal, but also SEE it in screen, so i can answer the prompt questions during the command execution... how to do that? I try with > somefile.txt, but i cant see output so i cant answer prompt questions.
[21:15] <TJ-> Eremo: "cmd | tee somefile.txt"
[21:15] <Mike9863> I am trying to import a public PGP key using seahorse. I copied the public key block to a file and then used File -> Import to add it. It shows the key details in a window, but after I click import nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
[21:16] <Eremo> thanks TJ
[21:17] <Mike9863> Nevermind, the view was set to only show personal.
[21:21] <Eremo> TJ- there is some kind of problem , it creates the file, but it only copy half of the terminal. why can that be?
[21:21] <Eremo> i need to copy an error, but the error its not in the file , but i can see in screen as output
[21:26] <TJ-> Eremo: Because "cmd" is writing to /dev/stderr as well as /dev/stdout - use "cmd |& tee somefile.txt"
[21:27] <Eremo> thanks again
[21:27] <carbon13> Eremo, it is easier to use 'cmd > output.txt'
[21:28] <TJ-> carbon13: No, it isn't
[21:28] <carbon13> T3, less typing
[21:28] <TJ-> carbon13: No. Eremo  wants to interact with "cmd" whilst capturing all its output
[21:31] <carbon13> T3, ok. no pun intended
[21:31] <Eremo> Tj all done, thanks a lot
[21:32] <Eremo> one last thing... do someone have an idea how to trainsfer text file from ubuntu without X to windows? i got ubuntu on vmware and need that text file. should i install links or is there other way?
[21:32] <Eremo> transfer*
[21:34] <TJ-> Eremo: "smbclient .... put $LOCALFILE [$REMOTEFILE]"
[21:34] <Eremo> thanks! ill try that
[21:36] <Eremo> TJ- and if i can't use apt-get because an issue? XD
[21:41] <fedora_newb> I have a video card of 770m with the driver 340.32 driver being used. Every once in awhile I get these 'artifacts' / glitches where certain parts of text and/or parts of the screen start blinking/disappearing. Only stops when I move the window around or resize. This is on a laptop with an external monitor connected by hdmi. Happens on both screens. Any ideas on how to stop this from happening?
[21:42] <DopeGhoti> I don't suppose this channel will be a notification channel for when a patch for CVE-2014-7169 drops?
[21:42] <k1l_> !shellshock | DopeGhoti
[21:43] <DopeGhoti> Huh, I just ran apt-get update and saw no new bash release
[21:43] <DopeGhoti> I'll check again
[21:44] <k1l_> DopeGhoti: read the links please. the first patch from the bash guys is already spread in ubuntu but they are still working on a patch for the whole issue
[21:44] <squinty> DopeGhoti:  you need to run   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   too
[21:46] <DopeGhoti> k1l_: yeah, I got the patch for 6271 yesterday, I was asking if once a patch _is_ out for *7169*, this channel would get a topic update or somesuch
[21:47] <ecky--ptang-zoob> Can I edit php.ini without root access?
[21:47] <TJ-> DopeGhoti: Check #ubuntu-hardened for security issues
[21:47] <DopeGhoti> TJ-: thanks
[21:52] <isene> After upgrading to a new laptop and a fresh install of 14.04, I have some font issues. Most noticeably, the three norwegian letters (æ,ø,å) are bigger than the other letters. Also, parenthesis () are abnormally big (while [] and {} reamins normal size). I have been doing all kinds of acrobatics to fix this, but no go. Any pointers?
[21:54] <sachina_> Hello, I'm looking for some help with a package dependency issue.  I am trying to install a 32 bit program on a 64 bit ubuntu operating system.
[21:55] <nomic> you install ia32lib
[21:56] <nomic> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:57] <nomic> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:57] <nomic> sudo apt-get update
[21:57] <cordyceps> news for shellshock?
[21:57] <nomic> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[21:57] <nomic> says that article
[21:57] <k1l_> !shellshock | cordyceps
[21:57] <cordyceps> thx
[21:58] <sachina_> Thanks, nomic
[21:58] <sachina_> I've got most of the libraries I need working, doing steps like those
[21:59] <sachina_> But, there's one I need, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2, that depends on an architecture indepentent package, overlay-scrollbar
[21:59] <sachina_> sorry, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386
[22:00] <sachina_> which depends in actuality, I think, on overlay-scrollbar
[22:00] <sachina_> but the package managers look for overlay-scrollbar:i386
[22:00] <sachina_> and of course, since overlay-scrollbar is architecture independent, overlay-scrollbar:i386 doesn't exist and can't be resolved
[22:04] <Guest___> 1st ;p
[22:05] <Eremo> k1l_ ... i went too fat
[22:05] <Eremo> far*
[22:06] <Eremo> i've managed to copy the bash text for beeing able to paste it here... i have it on a txt file on my virtual machine of ubuntu
[22:06] <daftykins> !paste
[22:06] <Eremo> ive created a new webhosting, freehosting, just to access de FTP to upload txt file..
[22:06] <Eremo> so i can use it in windows so paste it here lol
[22:07] <Eremo> but this free doman suck , and ftp user doesnt have enought right to upload file to my own site...
[22:07] <Eremo> so... im kind of stuck... but im on it
[22:07] <Eremo> if someone knows any free ftp host, its just a text file ... 1kb or 2
[22:08] <daftykins> Eremo: install the package 'pastebinit' then run "pastebinit file" to share 'file'
[22:08] <nubnub> does apt-get update and upgrade fix the bash security issue that everyone is talking about?
[22:08] <Eremo> daftykins i cant use apt-get ..
[22:08] <daftykins> nubnub: it will install a patch if you're on a supported release, yes
[22:09] <wrongplace> are there linux iphones?
[22:09] <Eremo> its fckd up :D
[22:09] <daftykins> wrongplace: no
[22:09] <daftykins> !touch | wrongplace
[22:09] <Eremo> anyone of u host a ftp on his machine?
[22:09] <nubnub> daftykins: i'm on 12.04, is that good?
[22:10] <daftykins> nubnub: yes
[22:10] <NGC3982> Oh hai!
[22:10] <nubnub> daftykins: thanks
[22:10] <Eremo> please someone who has ftp service active.. xD
[22:11] <NGC3982> Yes?
[22:11] <Eremo> can i upload a little file? and then u paste it to me please?
[22:11] <daftykins> Eremo: no and stop asking please.
[22:11] <Eremo> i was asking NGC3982 ... and just because he answered me
[22:12] <daftykins> sure, but cut the repeating please
[22:12] <NGC3982> Eremo: For what reason?
[22:12] <Eremo> maybe u are reading the same words all the time, but they arent.
[22:12] <NGC3982> Asking strangers for server access is basiclly faux pas.
[22:12] <Eremo> im stucked in virtual machine, cant get the output from there... so i used |& tee command to put output in a file.
[22:12] <Eremo> so now i can upload the file anywhere
[22:13] <Eremo> well im not interested on any evil purpose... i just want to fix my apt-get, but of course u can distrust me
[22:14] <NGC3982> And FTP is your only upload option?
[22:14] <cordyceps> Eremo: evil people always say that ;)
[22:14] <Eremo> well.. i cant install anything through apt-get
[22:14] <Eremo> hahahha
[22:14] <NGC3982> Can you wget?
[22:14] <Eremo> yes
[22:14] <Eremo> i can wget
[22:14] <NGC3982> What about dpkg then?
[22:14] <Eremo> i did it to download few files
[22:15] <TJ-> Eremo: As I said earlier; use "smbclient //$WINDOWS_SERVER_NETBIOS_NAME/$DESTINATION_DIRECTORY -U $WINDOWS_USER%$WINDOWS_PASSWORD -I $WINDOWS_HOST_IP -c "put filename.ext" "
[22:15] <Eremo> i think i cant, because my problem its on dpkg
[22:15] <Eremo> tj i answerd u before, i cant use apt-get install, so idont have smbclient
[22:15] <TJ-> Eremo: Oh, that was what you meant ... I thought you meant apt-get was a separate issue!
[22:16] <Eremo> the main issue its apt-get... this file think its just to paste you all the output
[22:16] <Eremo> file thing*
[22:16] <TJ-> Eremo: "pastebinit filename.ext"  ?
[22:16] <Eremo> its by default on ubuntu server?
[22:16] <Eremo> let me try
[22:17] <Eremo> nope
[22:17] <Eremo> currently not installed, cant pastenbinit
[22:18] <squinty> Eremo:  just log onto a "pastebin" site and then upload or copy/paste the file contents. return the url back into here
[22:18] <NGC3982> Lynx into pastebin.org? ;)
[22:18] <Eremo> i dont have links
[22:18] <Eremo> aaah its lynx
[22:18] <Eremo> let me try
[22:18] <NGC3982> Lynx != Links
[22:18] <NGC3982> But you might have it preinstalled.
[22:18]  * nubnub gets some popcorn and watches the show...
[22:18] <Eremo> lynx currently not installed
[22:19]  * Eremo its nuuber than nubnub
[22:19] <squinty> Eremo:  http://dpaste.com/    http://pastebin.com/   or similar     just use your web browser
[22:19] <Eremo> is it possible without X and without lynx or links?
[22:19] <TJ-> Eremo: change-directory to where the file is, then do "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000"   then connect from the Windows host's browser to the Guest VM's http://$IP:8000
[22:20] <Eremo> oki ill try that tj
[22:20] <Eremo> thx
[22:21] <Eremo> wait
[22:22] <Eremo> machine has its own nat ip
[22:22] <Eremo> i must figure out
[22:22] <Eremo> something like iponfig
[22:22] <Eremo> ipconfig
[22:22] <squinty> Eremo: ifconfig
[22:22] <squinty> Eremo:  could also possibly   putty/ssh too
[22:23] <Eremo> yeeeahh worked out finally
[22:23] <Eremo> thanks a lot
[22:24] <Eremo> !paste
[22:25] <Eremo> I got a problem with apt-get, i cant use it at all, here its the paste bin, result of command: sudo apt-get install -f
[22:25] <Eremo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8428644/
[22:25] <AnotherSomeone> Hi, how can I install unity 8 and mir
[22:26] <AnotherSomeone> on ubuntu trusty
[22:28] <AnotherSomeone> can someone answer?
[22:28] <sachina_> AnotherSomeone, I can give it a go, it may take a moment
[22:28] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: there is a mir preview package. but be aware that is heavly alpha state
[22:29] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, I know, but how do I install it?
[22:30] <k1l_> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir
[22:30] <TJ-> Eremo: Why are you trying to install Debian packages on an Ubuntu server?
[22:30] <Eremo> i wasnt... or i dot know i wasnt
[22:30] <k1l_> Eremo: (i am back now) well, do you have 3rd party packages installed or PPAs active?
[22:30] <Eremo> i always use apt-get
[22:31] <Eremo> yeah! winrar
[22:31] <Eremo> i remember i follow instructions on winrar site
[22:31] <Eremo> and added a line to the repository
[22:31] <AnotherSomeone> I installed that, but it's not starting. I don't have a display manager and if I try to install lightdm it tells me it will install gnome and Xorg too
[22:31] <sachina_> nomic, I looked into some of the things you mentioned, it doesn't seem to be working
[22:31] <Eremo> and all was a loose of time, because i finally used tar command
[22:32] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: what? you dont have a *dm?
[22:32] <TJ-> Eremo: "locales_2.19-11" is from Debian
[22:32] <Eremo> how could i remove all of it?
[22:32] <sachina_> I could use some help resolving package:i386 dependencies on Architecture:all packages
[22:32] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, no, I want ubuntu with unity 8 and no xorg and unity 7, so I installed ubuntu server and now I want to install unity8
[22:33] <k1l_> !info locales | Eremo
[22:33] <Eremo> all i did was add this to sources.list : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: that is the verison from 14.04. we dont have a 2.19 anywhere (not even in 14.10)
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: :/
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: that is the cause of the issue
[22:33] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, also, if I use --no-install-recommends on lightdm it doesn't start
[22:34] <agrppa> how can i set .ica files to open w the Citrix wfica??? anyone?
[22:34] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: well, you will need a lightdm and some xorg stuff since its a preview and not a complete own xserver
[22:34] <isene> No matter what I do in gnome-tweak-tool to change the system fonts, I still get oversized parenthesis and exlamation marks (in file open dialog and elsewhere). Help?
[22:35] <Eremo> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.19-11_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:36] <Eremo> so, locales 2.19-11 its for debian
[22:36] <trism> AnotherSomeone: you need a greeter for lightdm to start, and the greeters are only recommends because otherwise they cause issues with seeds
[22:36] <Eremo> how could possibly this reach to my computer? maybe its a dependence of build-esentials?
[22:36] <AnotherSomeone> trism, so how do I install lightdm + greeter without gnome
[22:37] <Netham45> So, whatever process I have that uses ALSA ends up going <defunct> when it tries to close. The audio is also all crackly and broken. Using a USB sound card, anyone got any ideas?
[22:37] <sachina_> can I please get some help with my 64 bit dependency problem? I need to install overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386
[22:37] <Eremo> ive tried apt-get clear , but wont work neither
[22:37] <sachina_> on Trusty
[22:38] <tafa2> can anyone recommend a good site to get security updates/notifications for OS's etc
[22:38] <k1l_> !usn | tafa2
[22:39] <squinty> Eremo:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    see if the debian repo is listed there.  if yes, delete it and then run   sudo apt-get update  again.   if no errors reported then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[22:39] <Eremo> ill just remove the line i added too ok? i dont need it anyway
[22:39] <tafa2> k1l_ thanks
[22:40] <Eremo> thanks squinty ill do it
[22:40] <tafa2> k1l_ know anything that is specific to the industry by any chance?
[22:41] <Eremo> that gives no output squinty
[22:41] <k1l_> tafa2: well that is out of the scope of this channel. maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic someone knows
[22:42] <squinty> Eremo:  which?   sudo apt-get update  ???  should see a ton of stuff scrolling on screen
[22:42] <Eremo> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:43] <TJ-> tafa2: the Openwall oss-security mailing list, the Mitre CVE database
[22:43] <squinty> Eremo:  ok then remove the debian ppa reference from where ever you put it (sources.lst  maybe??)
[22:43] <TJ-> Eremo: squinty wanted you to find and remove the APT sources entry for the debian.org repository, where-ever it is
[22:44] <DracoDan> and now for a weird possibly hopeless question... I'm running a bastardized build of ubuntu 12.04 on a server (it's actually my SAN using linux-iscsi).  When I built it I needed a newer kernel than 12.04 provided so I forced it to install the 12.10 kernel... and it worked perfectly for the last two years or so
[22:44] <DracoDan> but now I want to upgrade it
[22:44] <DracoDan> but I REALLY don't want to risk my data, since, as I said, it's my SAN
[22:44] <tafa2> TJ- thats usually my nickname on other servers... got so confused there... haha CVE is way too broad though I find
[22:45] <tafa2> thanks though :)
[22:45] <TJ-> DracoDan: Use the 12.04 HardWare Enablement packs if you want recent, supported kernels
[22:45] <DracoDan> at the time it didn't have the kernel I needed
[22:45] <Eremo> i feel like its going to work, i modified sources.list and ran apt-get install -f , ill tell u the results
[22:45] <DracoDan> I had to have kernel 3.5 for FC support with Linux SCSI target
[22:46] <Eremo> the line was this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[22:46] <Eremo> on sources.list , yes
[22:46] <squinty> yep
[22:46] <Eremo> i added manually to install rar package, that was stupid of me
[22:47] <Eremo> cuz was i really need was tar command, but i learned that after :P
[22:47] <Eremo> thanks guys for ur efforts!!
[22:47] <squinty> Eremo:  archive manager should handle rar iirc
[22:47] <squinty> Eremo:  aka  File Roller
[22:47] <Eremo> what means iirc?
[22:47] <squinty> if i recall correctly
[22:48] <Eremo> aahh oki !
[22:48] <Eremo> ok thanks, ill install that one if needed, for now tar did the job
[22:48] <daftykins> Eremo: have you been running debian this whole time?
[22:49] <Eremo> i firstly try tar, but i misspelled, thats why i went to winrar site.. because the file hasnt any extension at all
[22:49] <Eremo> later i found out about the command "File" xD
[22:49] <Eremo> its all a proccess
[22:49] <squinty> Eremo:  fwiw, ppa's are now added sepateratly to the  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory rather than manually adding to the sources.list file
[22:49] <milkdog> Should i stream media on lan?
[22:50] <milkdog> I need easy to use media server should I use xmbc or videolan.
[22:50] <daftykins> milkdog: use whatever you like
[22:50] <tafa2> milkdog what are you trying to do exactly...
[22:50] <squinty> Eremo:  archive manager/File Roller or some variation of that depending on release etc should be part of the default install as far as I know
[22:50] <Eremo> mm thats a new way? i remember old way to do it was that
[22:50] <tafa2> it daftykins is in a super helpful mood...
[22:50] <ahoneybun> so no fix for the new bug?
[22:50] <milkdog> daftykins:lol, duh
[22:50] <Eremo> editing with nano the file
[22:51] <milkdog> i like alot lol
[22:51] <ahoneybun> shellshock
[22:51] <TJ-> ahoneybun: both CVEs patched and published
[22:51] <rww> one very recently, so apt-get update etc.
[22:51] <DracoDan> sooo.... I'm not sure about how ubuntu names certain packages, I'm a Red Hat admin normally...
[22:52] <DracoDan> but when I do apt-get -f install I see this warning:
[22:52] <DracoDan> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:52] <DracoDan>   linux-generic linux-image-extra-3.5.0-28-generic linux-image-generic linux-image-server linux-server
[22:52] <TJ-> !usn | ahoneybun
[22:52] <DracoDan> those seem.... important
[22:52] <rww> DracoDan: yeah, those are what you'd expect them to be :\
[22:52] <tafa2> DracoDan haha what? I've never seen that
[22:52] <DracoDan> the kernel
[22:52] <tafa2> Is that a VPS?
[22:53] <DracoDan> I bastardized this build and then ignored it for 2 years because it just worked...
[22:53] <tafa2> well then surely its updating
[22:53] <DracoDan> it acts as the SAN for my vsphere setup and also my file server...
[22:53] <DracoDan> NOPE!
[22:53] <DracoDan> lol
[22:53] <ahoneybun> TJ-, GNU bash, version 4.3.24(1)-release
[22:53] <tafa2> did u run apt-get upgrade
[22:54] <ahoneybun> and I still have it http://lifehacker.com/how-to-check-if-your-mac-or-linux-machine-is-vulnerable-1639211806?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
[22:54] <tafa2> oooooh SAN....
[22:54] <TJ-> DracoDan: Have you installed the HWE first? That would explain those packages being removed
[22:54] <tafa2> HWE?
[22:54] <squinty> TJ-:  thank's for the update.   new bash include in the update I just did
[22:54] <milkdog> i want a easy set up and stream to my backyard.yup prett much thats all.
[22:54] <k1l_> ahoneybun: what ubuntu version?
[22:54] <ahoneybun> I'm on 14.10 k1l_
[22:54] <DracoDan> TJ: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:54] <DracoDan>  linux-image-extra-3.5.0-28-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic but it is not installable
[22:54] <DracoDan>  linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic but it is not installable
[22:55] <k1l_> ahoneybun: well: #ubuntu+1 for that dev release.but there should be a 2nd update right now
[22:55] <DracoDan> trying to force it gives me the previous message about the kernel packages about to be removed
[22:55] <ahoneybun> k1l_, I just ran update & upgrade got a few updates but it is still there cuz I don't think bash got upgrade
[22:55] <DracoDan> why doesn't it tell me the damn package versions?!
[22:56] <daftykins> DracoDan: using that language is not going to get you any help. calm down.
[22:56] <squinty> ahoneybun:  apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <daftykins> DracoDan: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[22:56] <DracoDan> heh, I'm perfectly calm, lol
[22:56] <k1l_> ahoneybun: apt-cache policy bash
[22:56] <tafa2> milkdog you just want something to pick your videos that you already have?
[22:56] <tafa2> Or you want something to store as well?
[22:56] <DracoDan> Ubuntu quantal (development branch) \n \l
[22:57] <ahoneybun> running squinty
[22:57] <milkdog> tafa2:I heard of xbmc streaming on lan.My question is does vlc to a good job of streaming on lan?
[22:57] <hurin_> hi, everybody o/
[22:57] <tafa2> yeah
[22:57] <daftykins> DracoDan: what about "lsb-release -a" ?
[22:57] <tafa2> a really good job
[22:57] <tafa2> its called video lan player :)
[22:57] <tafa2> but xbmc is way ea
[22:57] <DracoDan>     you mean /etc/lsb-release?
[22:58] <tafa2> *easier to create a library etc...
[22:58] <milkdog> lol ok ok
[22:58] <daftykins> no it should run
[22:58] <sachina_> I'm looking for help installing Dward Fortress on Ubuntu Trusty
[22:58] <sachina_> *Dwarf Fortress
[22:58] <DracoDan> # lsb-release -a
[22:58] <DracoDan> No command 'lsb-release' found, did you mean:
[22:58] <DracoDan>  Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[22:58] <AnotherSomeone> .
[22:58] <DracoDan> I'm all kinds of broken, lol
[22:59] <hurin_> i'm trying to run an apache2 server on a ubuntu 14 with vhost, but i can't figure out how it works, whatever i'm doing i still can't get any other site than the default one >__<
[22:59] <k1l_> DracoDan: lsb_release    underscore, not minus
[22:59] <rww> DracoDan: it's lsb_release, not lsb-release
[22:59] <DracoDan> oops!
[22:59] <DracoDan> No LSB modules are available.
[22:59] <DracoDan> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:59] <DracoDan> Description:    Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
[22:59] <DracoDan> Release:        12.10
[22:59] <DracoDan> Codename:       quantal
[22:59] <squinty> DracoDan:  you might want to install   inxi   python system information script.  very useful for troubleshooting etc.  install from repo's and further info at https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[23:00] <daftykins> DracoDan: 12.10, your release is unsupported then
[23:00] <blackangelpr> !bin | DracoDan
[23:00] <daftykins> DracoDan: you're going to have to update to a supported release... which in this case would be 12.04.5 or 14.04.1 - either of which would be easier to install with a clean install
[23:00] <DracoDan> yeah, I want to upgrade to 14.04
[23:01] <squinty> .1
[23:01] <DracoDan> can I avoid a clean install?
[23:01] <sachina_> Anyone?
[23:01] <DracoDan> well yeah
[23:01] <daftykins> DracoDan: it'd be a lot of hassle to try
[23:02] <k1l_> DracoDan: you can update to 13.04, then 13.10 then 14.04
[23:02] <DracoDan> I REALLY don't want to risk the configuration of targetcli
[23:02] <kostkon> DracoDan, the upgrade path would be 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 or just do a clean install o 14.04
[23:02] <kostkon> of*
[23:02] <k1l_> DracoDan: but you should have backups. murphy will strike no matter what you do
[23:02] <daftykins> so basically, the likelihood of something going wrong is huge
[23:03] <DracoDan> technically the data is on seperate disks, worst case is a total rebuild od the storage setup
[23:03] <DracoDan> but reconnecting to the storage
[23:03] <DracoDan> but targetcli is a pita!
[23:04] <hurin_> sorry, i'm just a newbie looking for some help about how i should configure my apache2 in the purpose to get my vhost working, i'm trying to do so since 2 hours and 3 tutorials and i still can't figure out what's going on
[23:04] <agrppa> use nginx
[23:04] <daftykins> hurin_: #ubuntu-server might be more relevant
[23:04] <daftykins> or i'd bet there's an apache channel too
[23:05] <hurin_> daftykins: i'm going to follow your advice, thank you
[23:06] <milkdog> tafa2:You use xbmc, you said its a very easy setup.
[23:06] <tafa2> define easy
[23:06] <tafa2> but yes I use
[23:07] <milkdog> For a streaming server.
[23:07] <tafa2> do you have a computer in teh backyard you can use just for XBMC?
[23:07] <reisio> I use ssh for a streaming server
[23:07] <tafa2> where do you keep your video files?
[23:07] <blackangelpr> milkdog, http://lifehacker.com/5536963/the-ultimate-start-to-finish-guide-to-your-xbmc-media-center
[23:08] <reisio> with a /5536963/ so that they can re-use 'the-ultimate-start-to-finish-guide-to-your-xbmc-media-center' for something else later? :p
[23:09] <milkdog> How about music files?Mp3 works with xbmc or no???
[23:09] <blackangelpr> i think its time to sit down and read
[23:09] <daftykins> milkdog: #xbmc is the channel, we don't support third party software
[23:09] <daftykins> milkdog: they also have a huge wiki and forum for help
[23:10] <squinty> milkdog:  fwiw, vlc has it's own support channel too
[23:12] <milkdog> tafa2:Yup yup all media files on my drive.
[23:12] <Zequal> Hey, I am trying to use rc.local to mount a drive. "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/test" If I type it manually, it works, but it won't execute on reboot.
[23:12] <tafa2> yeah dude just google and read up on xbmcbuntu
[23:12] <daftykins> Zequal: /etc/fstab is for permanent mounts, you're going about it wrong
[23:12] <milkdog> tafa2:lol you got netflix on linux yet???lol
[23:13] <tafa2> xbmc does have netflix I think yes
[23:13] <Eremo> guys why is setxkbmap command not recognized by my ubuntu distro?
[23:13] <Zequal> daftykins: I don't want to do permanent mounts, this is a USB and it needs to mount a partition that has a specific label..
[23:13] <daftykins> Eremo: you were feeding debian repos into your sources earlier, are you sure you're running ubuntu?
[23:13] <Eremo> since i ran apt-get install -f things look a bit different now :S
[23:14] <Eremo> daftykins my english its not very good... is that a joke about me or whats the purpose? XD
[23:14] <Zequal> daftykins: SPECMOUNT=`blkid | grep "foobar" | cut -d":" -f1`; mount $SPECMOUNT /foo/bar/
[23:15] <daftykins> Eremo: no it's a serious question, because you were using debian repos earlier
[23:15] <ssx> Hello folks, whats the default cron for updating security related packages?
[23:15] <Eremo> yeah i am using ubuntu
[23:15] <daftykins> 23:46 < Eremo> the line was this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[23:15] <daftykins> 23:46 < Eremo> on sources.list , yes
[23:15] <ssx> or rather: how often does it run?
[23:15] <rww> Eremo: why were there Debian repositories in your APT configuration, then?
[23:16] <daftykins> Eremo: because that suggests you are not
[23:16] <Eremo> yeah daftykins we all get the point, i did a retarded edit on sources.list
[23:16] <welovfree> Hello, I am taking a course about Linux and I want you guide me to a good book, that discuss every topic (history, shell programming... etc) and the Linux distributions we are gonna use is Ubuntu
[23:16] <blackangelpr> ssx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004805
[23:16] <rww> Eremo: what's the output of lsb_release -a?
[23:16] <daftykins> !manual | welovfree
[23:17] <ssx> perfect, thank you
[23:17] <Eremo> description ubuntu 14.01.1 LTS , codename trusty
[23:17] <blackangelpr> welcome
[23:17] <welovfree> !manual
[23:17] <daftykins> welovfree: no don't type the trigger again, read the message
[23:17] <Eremo> daftykins sorry, actually you was serious, i though u was just making fun about my mistake, sorry.
[23:18] <daftykins> Eremo: understood
[23:18] <roccat> hi
[23:19] <roccat> hi
[23:19] <welovfree> daftykins: Is it discuss the shell programming?
[23:20] <daftykins> welovfree: check it out and see
[23:20] <sachina_> hello roccat
[23:20] <welovfree> daftykins: thank u very much 👍
[23:21] <wrongplace> how do I extract a daa file?
[23:21] <wrongplace> is to be used with wine, I need to extract it first
[23:21] <Eremo> Do anyone know's why my Trusty LTS won't recognize the setxkbmap command?
[23:22] <daftykins> wrongplace: from what i vaguely remember that's some image format windows software can handle
[23:22] <wrongplace> oops
[23:22] <wrongplace> cant it be extractud under linux?
[23:22] <daftykins> dunno
[23:22] <EriC^^> wrongplace: maybe cabextract?
[23:22] <EriC^^> !info cabextract
[23:23] <daftykins> it's usually a format for distributing illegal content though so i don't feel like assisting there (:
[23:23] <EriC^^> hrm
[23:23] <wrongplace> oic
[23:23] <welovfree> daftykins: where can I get the epub version of the manual?
[23:24] <daftykins> welovfree: i have no idea. i gave you all i know
[23:24] <welovfree> daftykins: and sorry for bothering you
[23:25] <blackangelpr> Ubuntu guide http://ubuntuguide.org/images/UbuntuguideTrusty_Pt1.pdf
[23:26] <reisio> ...
[23:39] <sachina_> Hello ubuntu channel, I am trying to install Dwarf Fortress on Ubuntu Trusty 64 bit.  It requires the package overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 to be installed, but when I try to install, I get an error that the package "overlay-scrollbar:i386" is required, and that package does not exist ("overlay-scrollbar" is architecture-independent).  Any help would be appreciated.  This is my first time on this channel, any guidance on how to parti
[23:40] <Eremo> sachina_ have u try install -f?
[23:40] <Eremo> with dependences?
[23:40] <Eremo> im a big newbie but maybe that could help
[23:41] <rypervenche> sachina_: You'll need multilibs set up. One second.
[23:41] <trism> sachina_: why would dwarf fortress possibly need the overlay scrollbar? what's the actual error
[23:41] <sachina_> Eremo, I'm reluctant to use install -f because I've been warned it can break my system.  But, I haven't tried it.
[23:42] <EriC^^> that's odd, also doesn't unity come with overlay scrolls bars by default
[23:42] <Eremo> oh , well, as long as there is other ways like seeking manually
[23:42] <daftykins> !info overlay-scrollbar
[23:42] <Eremo> didnt know about that thanks sachina
[23:42] <daftykins> sachina_: delete the :i386
[23:43] <rypervenche> sachina_: Yeah, listen to dafty.
[23:44] <sachina_> EricC^^: I get these errors when running the DF, overlay_scrollbar is the first of 3 things I need: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[23:44] <YoukuntYou> How does one restore a missing systray? unity --replace brought back the En language marker in the corner, but no clock and no anything else, either
[23:44] <YoukuntYou> 14.04 Unity
[23:44] <Eremo> Do anyone know's why my Trusty LTS won't recognize the setxkbmap command? sudo: setxkbmap: command not found
[23:45] <sachina_> Delete the :i386?
[23:45] <EriC^^> Eremo: are you trying to remap a certain key?
[23:45] <trism> sachina_: that is fine, you don't need it, dwarf fortress does not need the overlay scrollbar
[23:45] <YoukuntYou> Trusty isn't the adjective that I'd choose.
[23:45] <trism> sachina_: if it isn't working, something else is wrong
[23:45] <Eremo> im trying to setup spanish keymap
[23:45] <Eremo> because im not getting what i want from reconfigure keyboard
[23:45] <sachina_> DF does seem to be working so far, it loads and plays sound and everything, and I can use the menu system fine
[23:46] <sachina_> but don't those errors mean something will go wrong later?
[23:46] <trism> sachina_: then you are good
[23:46] <sachina_> why would the program try to load modules it doesn't use?
[23:46] <EriC^^> sachina_: if you type apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar , does it say that it's installed?
[23:46] <trism> sachina_: nope if you look at the session errors you will probably see a bunch of those things, they are just warnings
[23:47] <sachina_> The places I looked elsewhere didn't have those errors, they do bother me.  I think I want to resolve them even if I don't need to... just in case.
[23:47] <sachina_> Eric^^ let me check
[23:48] <YoukuntYou> apt-cache search unity | grep tray | wc == 0
[23:48] <EriC^^> Eremo: did you try to change the keyboard layout? settings > text entry
[23:48] <Eremo> EriC^^ is that from gnome interface?
[23:48] <sachina_> Eric^^, I've been installing and uninstalling overlay-scrollbar, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 as I've been trying different things, but it has been installed sometimes
[23:49] <sachina_> I've been able to install overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 by using dpkg --ignore-dep as was suggested somewhere, and that error went away, but the package manager wouldn't let me install any new software after that
[23:50] <EriC^^> sachina_: overlay-scrollbar should be installed by default i think, it's what lets the scrollbar use the unconventional hidden style
[23:50] <sachina_> because it said there was a broken dpendency
[23:50] <sachina_> EriC^^: Oh, so that's what it does
[23:50] <EriC^^> sachina_: yeah, i think so
[23:50] <sachina_> EriC^^: Yes, it was installed when I started trying to install DF
[23:51] <EriC^^> sachina_: i have it installed by default i think
[23:51] <Eremo> sachina whats the name again of DF?
[23:51] <sachina_> Sorry, Dwarf Fortress, it's a game
[23:51] <EriC^^> sachina_: maybe DF was trying to install it as well, but it's odd that it would need it, what's DF ?
[23:52] <Eremo> i wanted to give it a look :)
[23:52] <sachina_> Eremo: :) I've heard it's quite good, very detailed in the simulation of the world
[23:52] <sachina_> Eremo: Oh, but maybe you meant you want to give it a look to help me *a little embarassed now*
[23:52] <trism> this is pretty silly, it is just a warning saying the ubuntu-patched gtk is trying to load the overlay scrollbars and can't, it is not a big deal
[23:53] <Eremo> no, about the gamming haha
[23:53] <EriC^^> sachina_: apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar | grep -i installed
[23:53] <trism> I'm sort of doubtful dwarf fortress uses scrollbars anyway
[23:53] <EriC^^> sachina_: will tell you if it's installed or not
[23:53] <Eremo> i dont think ive got the skills to help you :P
[23:54] <sachina_> Eremo: thank you for your input just the same
[23:54] <sachina_> EriC^^: apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar | grep -i installed   Installed: (none)
[23:54] <sachina_> EriC^^: but that's because I just uninstalled it
[23:54] <Eremo> Eric, about what u told me before, Settings > text entry , is that a gnome menu?
[23:54] <EriC^^> Eremo: unity
[23:54] <EriC^^> Eremo: gnome might have it too
[23:55] <Eremo> but im in terminal
[23:55] <Eremo> without x
[23:55] <Eremo> its a server distro of ubuntu
[23:55] <sachina_> EriC^^: I'm trying to edit the package information using dpkg-deb, so I can fix the dependency so overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 looks to depend on overlay-scrollbar, not overlay-scrollbar:i386
[23:56] <EriC^^> sachina_: yikes
[23:56] <Eremo> sachina im trying to get this distro working out, to host a MUD game :P
[23:56] <Eremo> its kind of similar
[23:57] <sachina_> Eremo: Oh, I've heard fun things about MUDs, I hope yours works out well
[23:57] <Eremo> roleplaying fantasy, lets see :P
[23:57] <Eremo> thanks