[00:00] <noobix> gothic, install chrome
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> And the package manager says that Flash Player is installed, that's nice, the only problem with it is that it doesn't work
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> I already have chrome, noobix
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> The only recommendation I can give you is to NEVER upgrade to version 14
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> You won't be able to use Flash anymore
[00:00] <noobix> gothic, then use firefox
[00:00] <Gothicspeaker> Doesn't work either
[00:00] <noobix> html5?
[00:01] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: use pepperflash with chrome
[00:01] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: and first one to blame is adobe to stop making flash for linux and the websites still using flash.
[00:01] <Gothicspeaker> k1l: I just installed pepperflash, restarted Chrome, the result is:  Flash player doesn't work
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> k1l: But Ubuntu decided to use another framework
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> I read that at a website
[00:02] <noobix> bill must have bribed them
[00:02] <OerHeks> 12.04 lts will give the same browser and flash versions
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> Reason for flash player issue exclusively in Chromium:
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> The reason why this issue occurs only in Chromium is that until now Chromium used Netscape Plugin API for Flash support. Starting from Ubuntu 14.04, Chromium will stop using Netscape Plugin API. Hence, you will face issues with Adobe Flash Player with Chromium.
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> That's what this website says:
[00:02] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: "i read some site"....
[00:02] <Gothicspeaker> http://itsfoss.com/fix-flash-player-issue-chromium-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:03] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: what do you mean?
[00:03] <k1l> !search pepperflash
[00:04] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss:
[00:04] <EriC^^> https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11890306/map-cannot-find-required-map-nameAC
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: whenever i boot to live usb there should be an option there to repair
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> Great
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: there isnt
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> now I can't use Flash anymore
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> why did I have to update Ubuntu...
[00:04] <k1l> sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> Already done that
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> doesn't work
[00:04] <Gothicspeaker> it still doesn't work, flash
[00:04] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: the live only sees the install when you go to re-install it
[00:04] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: stop flooding the channel with that much enter
[00:05] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9492325/
[00:05] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: can you reset CIMC ?
[00:05] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: what error do you get exactly? what sites dont work? what commands did you run?...
[00:05] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: as per thread ^^
[00:05] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: ill check
[00:05] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: i am using flash in chromium and firefoxright now on 14.10 and did just 1 hour ago on a 14.04 install. so dont say it doesnt work
[00:06] <k1l> after intsalling pepperflashplugin-nonfree do update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install --quiet
[00:07] <Gothicspeaker> Chuck_Norris: I did everything what you did, but the last step, freshplayer, doesn't work
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Chuck_Norris: Oh, no problem here, I didn't scroll to the top right
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Do I need to restart?
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> Flash still doesn't show
[00:08] <Gothicspeaker> ok wait, I 'll restart
[00:09] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: just close and re-open firefox
[00:10] <freeroute> so I'm trying to free up my swap a bit I have the following swap situation (hopefully it illustrates this well) - http://kpaste.net/1b909eb3 - so can I in this can swapoff and then swapon and expect everything to be back to normal, except with a fresh swap?
[00:10] <freeroute> or do I have to apply special methods just because it's a cryptswap?
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Yes, it works for FF now
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> How can I make it work for Google Chrome?
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Does it work for Chrome too?
[00:10] <k1l> *sigh*
[00:10] <notfadssssssss> eric^^:
[00:10] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: nope ;\
[00:10] <Gothicspeaker> Why do you sigh k1l?
[00:11] <Gothicspeaker> It doesn't work at Google Chrome for me.
[00:11] <k1l> Gothicspeaker: i just explained and you still missusing your enter key
[00:11] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: so the issue you see is the efi shell is not reading the HDDs
[00:11] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: well, i mah case, i am using chromium, i don't have installed chrome, but, i am having segfault in chromium, so i am only using firefox
[00:11] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, regular chrome keeps it's own version of pepperflash updated shouldn't be an issue check chrome://plugins
[00:11] <Gothicspeaker> But k1l, I did exactly what you said, and it doesn't work.
[00:12] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, check the URL in chrome I just posted
[00:13] <Chuck_Norris> Gothicspeaker: in chromium i can't even open the "store" or what ever its call,  bonus (just to check your flash :p):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iNn4ilhjYE
[00:13] <Gothicspeaker> wafflej0ck: There is no Flash Player among those 3 plugins. It only says:   Chrome PDF Viewer, Chromoting Viewer and Google Talk
[00:13] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, you should see the path to the shared object it's using for the flash plugin, for me it's /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
[00:13] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: yeah, looks like it, i'd recommend asking in #ubuntu-server as the threads that came up while searching for that error all had servers, they might know about it
[00:14] <wafflej0ck> Gothicspeaker, http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/enable-flash-player-google-chrome.html <-- you can try checking out what's here, no idea why it would be disabled though
[00:14] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: thanks for all the help btw really means alot
[00:14] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: no problem
[00:14] <notfadssssssss> eric^^: I gotta go to sleep been at this for like a full 20 hours now
[00:25] <EriC^^> notfadssssssss: yikes, ok goodnight
[00:28] <ProfessorKaos64> I've been getting into building ppa packages lately for Trusty. What determines if the package is build for Trust and not Utopic?
[00:29] <|aaron> having trouble with my new ubuntu install. when i boot up i get a black background with no task bar/menu. i have a mouse cursor, and i can ctrl+alt+del to bring up task manager but thats about it
[00:29] <|aaron> fresh install of 14.10 with proprietary nvidia drivers
[00:32] <chaotix> hey
[00:32] <chaotix> what is the correct forum or channel to suggest ideas for the future?
[00:33] <somsip> chaotix: the future of what?
[00:33] <chaotix> of ubuntu, of course!  :P
[00:33] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, Look at the ppa's web page
[00:34] <ProfessorKaos64> I've built pkgs on my 14.04 vm bubbasaures , just wondering do I need to be on a Utopic 14.10 machine to upload packages to Utopic or make them available, im a bit new to PPA's, still learning
[00:35] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, PPA's are third party not supported here repos, any repo in general has a release tag, look at your sources.list for example
[00:35] <ProfessorKaos64> ok thank you
[00:36] <bubbasaures> ProfessorKaos64, Releases outside like utopic in trusty etc are really not supported and a bad idea in general, unless you know what you're doing.
[00:37] <bubbasaures> yah gotta know as the help is not really around in any ease
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> Hmmmm
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> it's not that easy to make Flash work on Google Chrome :(
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> My family says too how for their computers it is all messed up now
[00:43] <Gothicspeaker> with that Ubuntu Update
[00:48] <|aaron> having trouble with my new ubuntu install. when i boot up i get a black background with no task bar/menu. i have a mouse cursor, and i can ctrl+alt+del to bring up task manager but thats about it.. can anyone help?
[00:50] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Have you tried "recovery" mode to see what results - maybe graphics related ?
[00:53] <|aaron> bashing-om: the grub recovery option brings me to a tty console menu.. are you referring to the "failsafeX" option here?
[00:54] <|aaron> bashing-om: that gives me an error dialog about needing to configure my input devices, but mouse/keyboard dont work
[00:54] <|aaron> bashing-om: i can get to the root shell prompt though
[00:55] <Bashing-om> |aaron: At that fail safe menu, choose "resume normal boot", do you now boot to the GUI ( degraded graphics is OK at this point ) .
[00:55] <ubnoobtu> Hey all, I am having an issue, I can install or u[grade anything. I just rebooted and opened snaptic manager, and got this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637762/
[00:56] <|aaron> bashing-om: that gives me the same issue - black background, can move the mouse and bring up task manager but no launcher etc
[00:56] <ubnoobtu> i cant*
[00:56] <|aaron> bashing-om: the only thing ive installed on here is the nvidia proprietary drivers. i guess i can try uninstalling those? they were working at first
[00:57] <teward> ubnoobtu: you didn't read the error did you?  run `dpkg --configure -a` and finish config steps there
[00:57] <ubnoobtu> it hasnt worked before, I am ju
[00:57] <ubnoobtu> i am just going to try it now
[01:00] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Well, more than  justa graphics driver issue here. What graphics card(s) is installed -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit . To show what we are working with .
[01:00] <|aaron> bashing-om: its a quadro k2200. one sec rebooting
[01:01] <bradley23228> hello
[01:02] <ubnoobtu> so  i'VE GOT A NEW ERROR WHEN TRYING TO INSTALL UPGRADES. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637784/
[01:04] <teward> ubnoobtu: stop with the caps please?
[01:05] <teward> ubnoobtu: looks like there's a package in there that has a bug in there - which version of Ubuntu are you on
[01:05] <ubnoobtu> Ok. Sorry, I'm justburnt out from trying to troubleshoot this dinglehandedly
[01:05] <ubnoobtu> 12.04
[01:05] <|aaron> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/
[01:07] <|aaron> bashing-om: yeah i removed the nvidia driver and booted with nomodeset and i still have the same problem
[01:07] <shwaiil> heya
[01:07] <|aaron> bashing-om: which is weird because it worked fine when i originally installed last night, and the only thing ive done since is install the nvidia driver
[01:08] <shwaiil> Q: I'm on a ubuntu desktop connected to win using team viewer. I've got a external HDD that I'd like to backup stuff to, from teamviewer win, here to ubuntu USBU connected external HDD. Is setting up a FTP server the easiest way to do this ? Any tips or suggestions ? thanks!
[01:09] <mjayk> ubnoobtu: haya
[01:09] <mjayk> ubnoobtu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/350505/unable-to-run-any-apt-get-command have a look at that should work for you
[01:10] <ubnoobtu> okay, ill give it a shot
[01:11] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Still, boot to the GUI login, key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console, login here (username and password - there is NO reposinse when password entered) and provide the requested lspce output . We look then and see next what driver is installed and IF it matches the card .
[01:11] <Bashing-om> lcpci*
[01:11] <|aaron> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/
[01:12] <ubnoobtu> mjayk: So, what am I suppose to do, with cd /var/lib/dpkg/info?
[01:12] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637793/ .
[01:12] <|aaron> bashing-om: it was definitely the correct driver, i downloaded it from nvidias site. the current stable verison anyway.
[01:13] <|aaron> bashing-om: unless i need to use a package or something
[01:17] <ubnoobtu> anyone updating ever get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637784/ ?
[01:18] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: try to remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:18] <ubnoobtu> how ?
[01:18] <EriC^^> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[01:19] <ubnoobtu> I got
[01:19] <ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[01:19] <bekks> EriC^^: How is that going to help?
[01:19] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, sudo apt-get update
[01:20] <Bashing-om> |aaron: A quick look indicated the 340.xx driver .. so what is installed ? -> sudo lshw -C | pastebinit .
[01:20] <ubnoobtu> okay working EriC^^
[01:21] <bekks> EriC^^: The error is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0*.list
[01:21] <bekks> EriC^^: updating will ot fix the issue.
[01:22] <ubnoobtu> how can I fix libvncserver0?
[01:22] <bekks> ubnoobtu: pastebin ls -lha /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0*.list please
[01:22] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Which filenames are returned?
[01:23] <eaglesharklion> why is missing a final newline a fatal error?
[01:23] <EriC^^> !info libvncserver
[01:23] <bekks> eaglesharklion: because of the very specific constraints of dpkg
[01:23] <EriC^^> !find libvncserver
[01:23] <ubnoobtu> bekks: EriC^^ : After update, I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637837/
[01:23] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: type sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:23] <ubnoobtu> I will do that next bekks
[01:24] <bekks> EriC^^: That will not fix the issue.
[01:24] <eaglesharklion> manually add that newline
[01:24] <bekks> EriC^^: The issue is a missing newline which prevents all package operations.
[01:24] <bekks> eaglesharklion: exactly.
[01:25] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Please pastebin the filelist.
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637842/
[01:25] <shwaiil> Q: I need to setup an FTP server on ubuntu desktop. The file path needs to be an external usb hdd. Is that possible ? Any software recommendation ? Thanks
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> I typed http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637842/
[01:25] <squinty> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-dpkg-error-files-list-file-missing-final-newline-271118/    seems that *.list file can get scrambled too.  article says to delete and then reinstall package
[01:25] <ubnoobtu> err
[01:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list
[01:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: then sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:26] <bekks> EriC^^: First delete, then reinstall - otherwise the install will get prevented.
[01:27] <ubnoobtu> okay do what?
[01:27] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list
[01:27] <bekks> ubnoobtu: stop it please :)
[01:27] <bekks> ubnoobtu: Show us the contents of that file please: cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[01:28] <ubnoobtu> okay sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list /libvncserver0.list done
[01:28] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: then sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[01:28] <bekks> Ok, whatever, people in here try to fire canons instead investigating and fixing the actual issue.
[01:28] <ubnoobtu> sorry bekks
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> im trying to figure it out
[01:29] <bekks> ubnoobtu: It's not your fault :)
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  I got E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:29] <EriC^^> bekks: it already says what the issue is
[01:29] <ubnoobtu> imma go with bekks advice now
[01:29] <bekks> EriC^^: And we still dont know why. Either a missing newline OR a scrambled package list.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Still with us ?
[01:29] <squinty> ubnoobtu:  if you have synaptic open you need to close it first
[01:30] <bekks> EriC^^: Since it seems that you want to solve that issue, please continue.
[01:30] <EriC^^> bekks: so? moving the file and reinstalling should make a new .list
[01:30] <EriC^^> problem solved
[01:30] <|aaron> bashing-om: sorry yes
[01:30] <bekks> EriC^^: Fixing the file would be more targetting.
[01:30] <|aaron> bashing-om: 340.65 was the driver i installed earlier. its uninstalled at the moment
[01:30] <sheer> hello, just installed ubuntu. scrolling works but not if i push it to go up fast
[01:30] <sheer> any ideas?
[01:30] <sheer> maybe a mouse driver?
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> okay closed snaptic
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> what did I need to do
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> lol
[01:31] <EriC^^> bekks: helping the user with his problem would be more targetting
[01:31] <EriC^^> ( if you know what i mean )
[01:31] <EriC^^> this is great if i motivate you to help though
[01:31] <ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory connell@connell-laptop:~$
[01:32]  * squinty has seen newbies trying to "fix" txt files turn into a nightmare.  :P
[01:32] <Bashing-om> |aaron: I had expected the 340.32 driver .. How did you uninstall the proprietary driver presently ?
[01:32] <bekks> EriC^^: If you know what I: finding the most easy way to fix the easy instead of firing nukes is even more targetting. Just continue, I'm resting that case.
[01:32] <ubnoobtu> I did cat, and got connell@connell-laptop:~$ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory connell@connell-laptop:~$
[01:32] <bekks> *I mean:
[01:32] <|aaron> bashing-om: --uninstall switch on the installer package
[01:33] <EriC^^> bekks: what are you talking about? deleting the file and have apt make a new one what's wrong with that?
[01:33] <EriC^^> bekks: you want to edit it and fix it go ahead
[01:33] <|aaron> bashing-om: when i selected my card on nvidias site it gives me this page with the 340.65 driver http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/80647/en-us
[01:33] <ubnoobtu> im going to have to have a cigarette at with rate, lol. I am having a headacke trying to get back into ubuntu, i just managed to repair this laptop, and now i cant gte this issue fixed easily
[01:33] <bekks> EriC^^: No, if you think that not looking at that file is the proper approach, continue. I am rsting that case as I said.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> |aaron: OK, How bout we do the 'buntu way and install from the software repository ?
[01:34] <ubnoobtu> If  have to fix that file, that'd be cool, if I can just reinstall it, thatd be cool too
[01:34] <|aaron> bashing-om: sure okay. maybe i should do a clean install of ubuntu first?
[01:34] <ubnoobtu> I can work through any  issue, just only in proper order, you kno
[01:34] <EriC^^> bekks: what will looking at it help? you want to file a bug report?
[01:35] <ubnoobtu> anyone want to go private?
[01:36] <bekks> EriC^^: If the file list got corrupted, filing a bug would be the generic way to fix it for other users, indeed. Just continue with your approach.
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: the file is still in /libserver ... feel free to look at it and send it anywhere
[01:36] <bekks> EriC^^: You took over the case, you solve it.
[01:36] <Bashing-om> |aaron: A (RE-)install is up to you, but I do not think it is needed for a simple case of installing a grahics driver . This is, after all, your system - you are the man .
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: i didnt take over anything
[01:36] <EriC^^> bekks: if you think there is a better way that will be more permanent etc.
[01:37] <EriC^^> help him
[01:37]  * monkeyjuice thinks ubnoobtu would like to get it fix
[01:37] <Chuck_Norris> bekks: then if you wont help or solve anything, just "shut up" let EriC^^ do his things
[01:38] <|aaron> bashing-om: wow there are a ton of nvidia packages for ubuntu. do you know which one i need
[01:38] <ubnoobtu> uhhh
[01:38] <ubnoobtu> brb for 5. smoke break
[01:38] <function9x> Chuck_Norris: bekks  is a nice guy, I've seen him help a lot of people, sometime he holds their hands lol
[01:38]  * Chuck_Norris is tired of trolls interrupting while people help
[01:39] <bekks> Chuck_Norris: I dont know how that turned into your business into showing attitudes at people.  I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 and then my Samsung NP9004X will not boot from the HD. But, the boot-repair session finds and mounts my HD (sda2) alright. I have run the boot repair and it says it repaired the boot - but still won't actually boot from the hd. Help.
[01:41] <aspidites> hello
[01:42] <Bashing-om> |aaron: The package manager is smart real smart. 1st is to make sure that all the former Nvidia files are gone . dpkg -l  | grep nvidia , sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" . If there are no files present we can continue to install from the repo .
[01:43] <CalebW> I need some help with unity and compiz(I think..) my laptop was working fine earlier today but all of the sudden I try to login and it freezes  at the bakground. I can move the mouse, but nothing else shows up.
[01:43] <|aaron> bashing-om: well im reinstalling ubuntu right now
[01:43] <CalebW> And it's happining to all users not hust me.
[01:43] <|aaron> bashing-om: but what do i need to do to install from the repo?
[01:43] <CalebW> just*
[01:44] <Bashing-om> |aaron: PK, not a problem .. when ya get done, and are less than happy with the graphics driver, let's investigate what " Additional Drivers " advocates for a graphics driver .
[01:44] <|aaron> bashing-om: ok got ya
[01:44] <CalebW> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:45] <aspidites> speaking of graphics drivers, what would cause video to freeze and sound to stutter/loop?
[01:45] <aviationcomputer> hello
[01:45] <aspidites> I initially thought overheating, but I'm at 52 degrees C and have read reports of pepole operating well into the 80s without issue
[01:45] <aspidites> hello aviationcomputer
[01:46] <Schilling> isene: one idea is to check and make sure your boot order is back to hhd...
[01:47] <CalebW> I've reinstalled unity and ubuntu-desktop, but that didn't help.
[01:47] <Schilling> it *should* boot to hd if it doesn't find the USB/DVD boot in place, but you might have to tell it the boot order. Just a guess to get you started, isene.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Did you do an update ? Have you tried to boot with an earlier kernel ?
[01:47] <ubnoobtu> Back
[01:48] <CalebW> Bashing-om: No, the only package I've installed today was python-visual
[01:48] <ubnoobtu> bekks: Im back if you are available
[01:49] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Hummm .. python, wonder what that might break .. hang on a bit and let me take a gander .
[01:49] <isene> Schilling: I did put the hd on top in the boot order in the bios setup. No go. Any other ideas?
[01:49] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I've already uninstalled it, but it didn't help.
[01:50] <aspidites> don't know what you're talking about isene, but if you're investigating boot issues, have you looked at your grub config as well?
[01:51] <Schilling> isene, I gotta say that's the only one I had. aspidites has a good idea though. Check your GRUB config, and search the forums for similar issues.
[01:51] <isene> OK. Thanks so far
[01:52] <robert_j_p_> Hi, can someone help me. I am running Ubuntu 14.04 on windows 8.1 using vitrual box 4.3.20. I am using intel 4600 HD integrated graphics card. I just installed some updates(blindly...) and my screen resolutions have been limited to a bunch of low resolutions. This happens just about every time I update anything and usually I just reinstall guest additions and it fixes it, I can then set my system back to 16:9 resolution. However
[01:53] <CalebW> Bashing-om: libboost and libgtkglex were also installed when I installed python-visual, I removed them too but it didn't help anything.
[01:53] <ubnoobtu> okay
[01:53] <ubnoobtu> anyone around to help me ?
[01:53] <robert_j_p_> this time I still only have 4:3 resolutions. Any suggestions?
[01:54] <CalebW> What's your problem? -ubnoobtu
[01:55] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451805/screen-resolution-problem-with-ubuntu-14-04-and-virtualbox
[01:55] <aspidites> i see you tried the chosen answer already, but perhaps the second one is of some help
[01:55] <robert_j_p_> aspidites, I have already reinstalled guest additions.
[01:55] <aspidites> highest voted rather, not chosen
[01:56] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: hence why i said to try the second option...
[01:56] <aspidites> the one that talks about going to system settings and x86 virtualization solutions
[01:56] <robert_j_p_> I have them enabled
[01:57] <robert_j_p_> If anything is there a way to just revert recent updates?
[01:58] <robert_j_p_> I am a programmer and I need the computer for work
[01:58] <robert_j_p_> I just want it to work again and I will update when I know what's going on
[01:58] <aspidites> robert_j_p_: http://forum.linuxbsdos.com/topic/201/solution-for-low-screen-resolution-in-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-14-10-and-virtualbox
[01:59] <CalebW> robert_j_p_: I suppose you could do a "cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "" and uninstall all of the receant packages.
[01:59] <aspidites> in particular, i'm wondering what the output of xrandr is
[01:59] <william1978> Hello everyone, quick question.  (And yes, I tried google, the forums and everything else before IRC).  How do I change a directory from hidden to unhidden?  (I don't mean to look at it, but to actually unhide it?)
[01:59] <aspidites> william1978: remove leading .
[01:59] <william1978> Thank you, that was my guess.
[01:59] <CalebW> william1978: "mv .<dir name> <dirname>"
[01:59] <robert_j_p_> It is just a bunch of 4:3 and one 9:5 resolution
[02:00] <robert_j_p_> but it's like 1/2 of my sceen
[02:00] <william1978> Next question, will that mess up my PlayOnLinux if I do this?
[02:00] <robert_j_p_> super annoying
[02:00] <mwsb> If it starts with a leading . (as in .hidden) remove the dot, if there is no dot, but it is still a hidden file, it's probably listed in the file .hidden, so remove the entry from that file.
[02:00] <Bashing-om> CalebW: well:  depends python-visual >> libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa. What now is the state of the package manager -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- are any errors reported ?
[02:00] <aspidites> not sure. i'm tempted to run 14.04 in virtualbox to see if i can reproduce that, robert_j_p_ (i'm technically not an ubuntu user)
[02:00] <aspidites> what's your native resolution, by chance?
[02:00] <william1978> We'll, there's one way to find out, thanks again.
[02:01] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvncserver0
[02:01] <aspidites> william1978: i'd look in settings to see if there's a different directory to point to
[02:01] <robert_j_p_> I think 1080 but either way it doesn't show
[02:01] <CalebW> Bashing-om: I'm upgrading right now but I haven't down so in a while so it's 200+ MB
[02:01] <robert_j_p_> just some low resolutions
[02:01] <sivik> Anyone ever set up a g key using xinput for a keyboard or mouse or headset?
[02:02] <ubnoobtu> okay EriC^^
[02:02] <Bashing-om> CalebW: OK, we be patient . 1st step is always with a happy package manager .
[02:02] <aspidites> william1978: a compromise might be to make a symbolic link to the hidden folder which isn't hidden
[02:03] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637949/
[02:04] <william1978> We'll, what I am trying to do, is install DIII Latest patches, I need to point Battle.net to the directory, and thought the easiest way would be to unhide it.  It did not install properly with PlayOnLinux, but PlayOnLinux made the virtual drive for me (Which I really don't know how to do, yet) so that is why I used the gui.
[02:05] <william1978> So, the program isn't really in PlayOnLinux as an option.
[02:05] <william1978> Kind of stinks, I'm just smart enough to break things really really well!  LOL!
[02:05] <daftykins> william1978: did you look for channels for PlayonLinux, or check the wine database for compatibility? both are better ideas than asking OS support
[02:06] <william1978> Ah, will do.
[02:07] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^:  Did that fix it?
[02:07] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, type ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[02:08] <ubnoobtu> EriC^^: connell@connell-laptop:~$ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list ls: cannot access /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list: No such file or directory
[02:08] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: ok, try sudo apt-get install libvncserver0
[02:09] <robert_j_p_> aspidites: I think I just figured it out. I was installing guest additions for an old version of virtual box...
[02:10] <robert_j_p_> let me reboot and I'll know if that was the problem
[02:10] <aspidites> nice -- i'd have thought the repos would have had the two in sync (vbox and guest additions)
[02:10] <aspidites> good luck
[02:11] <robert_j_p_> yea not sure what happened. I just assumed I was getting the right versions
[02:11] <sivik> anyone have any luck setting up g keys in linux?
[02:13] <daftykins> robert_j_p: how were you installing a different version, when the VM options just tell it to mount auto - were you manually picking an ISO?
[02:13] <robert_j_p> well crap that didn't work either
[02:13] <robert_j_p> so I tried at first with apt-get
[02:14] <robert_j_p> then with the menu "insert guest additions CD"
[02:14] <aspidites> sivik: do you mean this -> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/g15daemon.1.html ?
[02:14] <robert_j_p> So i have the right version now but still not resolutions
[02:14] <daftykins> robert_j_p: it'd be handy if you could post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably, i'm somewhat guessing there's a module failure on loading the vbox driver
[02:14] <robert_j_p> *no proper resolutions
[02:14] <sivik> aspidites, thats for the lcd on a g15 g510 keyboard.
[02:14] <sivik> I'm trying to program my headset
[02:15] <sivik> http://elgenieben.blogspot.com/2013/10/logitech-g930-headset-g-keys-under.html i'm trying to follow this but I don't know how to get the output for #3
[02:15] <daftykins> robert_j_p: do you follow me? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:16] <neebs> test 123
[02:16] <sivik> hi neebs
[02:16] <neebs> hi
[02:16] <daftykins> neebs: don't do that in here please.
[02:16] <neebs> is the mumble server down?
[02:16] <neebs> do what?
[02:17] <robert_j_p> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9637986/
[02:17] <daftykins> what mumble server are you talking about? there's none relevant to here
[02:17] <sivik> Tests neebs and what mumble server are you referring to?
[02:18] <neebs> sorry wrong channel, but still would be cool if you want to join a mumble server
[02:18] <daftykins> neebs: what would? your talk is 100% irrelevant to this channel
[02:18] <robert_j_p> Well, I son'r understand all of what the logs are telling me but it doesn't look like anything is "failing to load"
[02:18] <sivik> I will believe if neebs gets kicked
[02:19] <neebs> look. i say this in the wrong channel.
[02:19] <daftykins> robert_j_p: yeah the module is loading fine and querying the EDID
[02:19] <daftykins> neebs: bye bye then
[02:19] <neebs> -.-
[02:19] <robert_j_p> I should give it 1080, but it's not getting that
[02:19] <robert_j_p> is there a way to try to just manually force it maybe?
[02:20] <daftykins> robert_j_p: line 408, maybe try googling it.
[02:20] <robert_j_p> ok
[02:20] <daftykins> [    17.017] (II) VBoxVideo(0): DDCModeFromDetailedTiming: 1440x795 Warning: We only handle separate sync.
[02:20] <daftykins> 1440x795 isn't a real res, looks like the window size of your vbox view
[02:21] <aspidites> speaking of forcing it, i'd be curious to know if setting the resolution through xrandr manually works (not that its ideal)
[02:21] <sivik> Any ideas on that aspidites
[02:23] <aspidites> sivik: ideas on  your headset you mean?
[02:24] <ioURT> hangover day
[02:24] <sivik> aspidites, g930
[02:25] <aspidites> unfortunately note. don't have that particular headset
[02:25] <sivik> aspidites, which headset do you have?
[02:26] <sivik> I'm just trying to get the key layout printed using the xinput command
[02:26] <EriC^^> ubnoobtu: reinstalling the package should recreate the .list file, i tried it on my pc, no idea why it wasn't recreated, if you want you can move it back with sudo mv /libvncserver0.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/libvncserver0.list
[02:26] <aspidites> siberia v2
[02:27] <aspidites> no fancy buttons or anything.
[02:27] <sivik> oh
[02:27] <sivik> Well, this headset has some g keys and they work with the windows software but I haven't figure out how to set them in linux yet
[02:27] <Jake> Hi there, I'm on Ubuntu Server version 14.04.01 LTS, I can use ssh with private keys for a majority of users but one user returns the error message "Permission denied (publickey)."
[02:27] <revo> hey gents...& ladies
[02:27] <aspidites> i tend to try and buy hardware specifically marketting linux support or with known good drivers (CODE keyboard, roccat kone xtd mouse, xbox one controller)
[02:28] <eaglesharklion> sivik, what are the keys used for?
[02:28] <revo> can sum1 help me out...with this code
[02:28] <revo> ./"<Portable Nitro PDF 9 for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com>".run
[02:28] <ioURT> i want to buy a keyboard with an ubuntu key
[02:28] <revo> cant get this to run on xubuntu
[02:28] <revo> can sum1 help me out...with this code
[02:29] <revo> cant get this to run on xubuntu
[02:29] <revo> ./"<Portable Nitro PDF 9 for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com>".run
[02:29] <ioURT> i never used the wondows key in my life
[02:29] <aspidites> revo: is that run file executible?
[02:29] <sivik> eaglesharklion, they can be programmed to do different things like volumes and what not.
[02:29] <revo> yes ... ibeleive so
[02:29] <daftykins> revo: that is really not how to install software :)
[02:30] <revo> found this online
[02:30] <aspidites> though, i wouldn't recommend that particular installation method
[02:30] <daftykins> yeah don't do it
[02:30] <EriC^^> revo: maybe there's something similar in the repos
[02:30] <revo> http://www.toplinuxapps.com/2014/03/procedure-to-run-linux-software-and.html
[02:30] <aspidites> and I haven't heard of portable nitro..
[02:30] <revo> Eric...how doing m8
[02:30] <EriC^^> revo: great you?
[02:30] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it works in ubuntu (wondows key), try it
[02:31] <EriC^^> revo: try okular maybe
[02:31] <revo> still learning..feels s*ht when i dont know how to operate with this os
[02:31] <EriC^^> !info okular
[02:31] <ioURT> i always missed the point of having that key
[02:31] <eaglesharklion> I just found out
[02:31] <revo> let me search that on ubuntu software
[02:32] <daftykins> revo: don't use even masked language in here please
[02:32] <revo> Eric...how do i install java on pc
[02:32] <revo> ok...sos m8:(
[02:32] <ioURT> revo is a troll
[02:33] <revo> troll, what that ?
[02:33] <revo> beginner ??
[02:33] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it's advertisement. also puts in people minds pc = windows .. like wow, it's so integrated with the OS that there's even a windows key. It may also open the launch menu or something like that
[02:33] <revo> sorry all...fell out of place asking all this question, appologies
[02:34] <eaglesharklion> it's a clear sign of corruption in the industry
[02:34] <ioURT> winkey+e
[02:35] <revo> Eric...it doesnt allow pdf editing
[02:35] <EriC^^> revo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:35] <EriC^^> revo: oh
[02:35] <ioURT> does it open FM on linux too?
[02:37] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Ok, it's finished.
[02:37] <basil1x> ioURT, It might, or it's an extra key you can make do whatever you wish.  I have it being an AltGr key right now. ;)
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, what is FM?
[02:37] <basil1x> Not having one bcos this Lenovo has a crap American keyboard... grrr...
[02:37] <eaglesharklion> File Manager
[02:37] <ioURT> try file manager
[02:37] <wafflej0ck> ah k
[02:37] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Great .. all done with "apt-get upgrade" and there is no "held packages" ?
[02:37] <revo> having a go at it now...just copying and pasting, see if i get tmy first soft installed via terminal
[02:37] <eaglesharklion> wooo I won!
[02:38] <wafflej0ck> was thinking frequency modulation :P
[02:38] <EriC^^> !info pdftk | revo
[02:38] <ioURT> i was thinking faping mondays
[02:38] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Yes, I have some packages that have been kept back
[02:39] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, I have a Das Keyboard with the keys that are blank, so no "winkey" just keys
[02:40] <ioURT> wafflej0ck:another troll
[02:40] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, but yeah can map it to whatever
[02:40] <bazhang> ioURT, stop that
[02:41] <eaglesharklion> what is a Das keyboard?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> CalebW: A small amount of risk. doing this in the dark, but -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- which will install those held packages . This has nothing to do with a release upgrade .
[02:41] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, really should only be talking support in here, general discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:41] <revo> thx gents..ill downloaded and have a go...but from comments it seems editing is not build in...just merging
[02:41] <basil1x> You can get one of these cheap. ;) http://www.amazon.com/Hello-Kitty-Keyboard-Standard-Computer/dp/B00C8QWO1W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1419820844&sr=8-3&keywords=hello+kitty+keyboard
[02:41] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I have a couple questions when someone has a moment.
[02:41] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, it's just a clicky keyboard http://www.amazon.com/Das-Keyboard-Model-Ultimate-Mechanical/dp/B003F7WXTG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419820892&sr=8-2&keywords=das+keyboards
[02:42] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, is a really nice keyboard but pretty pricey, took it apart though it's built like brick, should last a long time
[02:42] <ioURT> im using a MS keybaord and it survived a coffee spill so kudos for that
[02:43] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, feel free to ask
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !ask | PolarisX|MetalSt Can not help if we do not know:
[02:43] <revo> Eric...since the boot incident that i had to remove windows completly to install xubuntu....how do i go about partition system to install windows and also add grub menu
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I picked up a single core TF-20 Athlon laptop
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Aaaaaand I need to understand how to cut down on CPU usage
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I can't run teamspeak, it uses 70% CPU
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and someone blamed it on unity
[02:43] <PolarisX|MetalSt> But I dont know enough to say
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, that's in part probably true
[02:44] <revo> also, how do i change my colour fonts here to make it RED like u have
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, you can check, top or the system tools to see what is using the CPU
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I was looking in htop
[02:44] <revo> got it
[02:44] <eynar> quien habla español??
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, with older hardware lubuntu (Lxde) or Xubunutu (XFCE) would probably be lighter on resources
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> !es | eynar
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and its /usr/bin/x - core
[02:44] <PolarisX|MetalSt> ect ect
[02:45] <CalebW> Bashing-om: Ok I'll do it in a bit. I'm watching Amazon right now and need the bandwidth.
[02:45] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Seems that teamspeak sends it for a ride.
[02:45] <EriC^^> revo: boot a live usb, and use gparted to resize the partition
[02:45] <ioURT> linux is too passé so im going to install FreeBSD
[02:45] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, yeah I'd suggest checking out Lubuntu and Xubuntu but teamspeak or whatever your run on top may still eat a lot of resources
[02:45] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I understand
[02:46] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, you can run a liveCD to try out Xubuntu or whatever though and see if it helps
[02:46] <revo>  ok, so live usb is the same as when i downloaded xubuntu ???
[02:46] <Bashing-om> PolarisX|MetalSt: A single core Athlon processor, might get better performance install (L)ubuntu - And a lot depends on the graphics chip. Is the memory for the graphics taken from the processor ? .
[02:46] <numbertheorist> hello all, i am very new to linux. can anyone suggest a free resource that i can use to help me familiarize myself with and use linux?
[02:46] <jflory7_> Hello all. I am trying to install Ubuntu on an ASUS laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed. I am trying to make it run side-by-side with Windows. However, I am having some issues using the Aptio Setup Utility in the BIOS/UEFI to get Ubuntu to even load. I have followed the steps in this guide to no avail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[02:46] <EriC^^> ioURT: ou la la .. c'est tres mechant
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Yes, it has a Radeon 3200
[02:46] <jflory7_> The BIOS/UEFI on this laptop is confusing and does not have a clear way to make Ubuntu load.
[02:46] <ioURT> french is the true hipster lingo
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I got it for free, my main is an 8 core @ 4.6Ghz
[02:46] <PolarisX|MetalSt> and my server is an e3 Xeon
[02:47] <jflory7_> Thank you Microsoft for being so wonderful :P
[02:47] <PolarisX|MetalSt> So I'm not used to fighting for cpu time, lol
[02:47] <ioURT> most hipsters are canadien anyways
[02:47] <Bashing-om> CalebW: OK, no big hurry .. But it is close to my retirement time for this session . We may have to continue this tomorrow.
[02:47] <eaglesharklion> PolarisX|MetalSt, what game are you playing?
[02:47] <ioURT> for them speaking true freanch is the ultimate hipster chanlenge
[02:48] <ioURT> challenge
[02:48] <numbertheorist> can anyone suggest a good starting place for a new linux user?
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> No games, its being set up as an SSH / Browsing / learning machine
[02:48] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, like using linux?
[02:48] <jflory7_> numbertheorist: Depends on what you want to do
[02:48] <eaglesharklion> what is teamspeak then?
[02:48] <dts|pokeball> eagles0513875, voip
[02:48] <CalebW> Bashing-om: it will be 40 or so min before I can do it. What time will you be on tomorrow?
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I manage a few people for a radio station that work on the dedi server
[02:48] <numbertheorist> i just need to learn linux, how to install/remove packages, the basics, etc.
[02:48] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I want to learn more so I can relate to my team better
[02:49] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I don't feel you can be a good manager without being hands on with your team
[02:49] <ioURT> teamspeak is the ultimate RDP
[02:49] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are lots of videos on YouTube, depends on your learning style though
[02:49] <Bashing-om> CalebW: I be on about 2100 GMT ..
[02:49] <squinty> !manual | numbertheorist
[02:49] <jflory7_> numbertheorist: I don't know about what may work for you, but the best thing that got me going on Linux was learning and installing different software on a VPS. For example, there's the popular Minecraft server software called Multicraft that might be fun for you to install.
[02:50] <numbertheorist> thank you for the info
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, the great thing about linux is, unless you want to do support, basically just google "how to do x with y on z" whenever you have an issue. thats what i do
[02:50] <ioURT> theres a new ubuntu FM
[02:50] <revo>  ok Eric i got it, use the xubuntu live usb to start system and then gparted...how should i partition drives to install win and also have grub menu ?
[02:50] <numbertheorist> whats a vps?
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> thank god for digitl ocean btw
[02:50] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I understand the machine is under powered however, so if teamspeak is a resource hog so be it
[02:50] <jflory7_> VPS = virtual private server
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, its a server that you ren
[02:50] <dts|pokeball> t
[02:50] <numbertheorist> ahh
[02:50] <CalebW> Bashing-om: what should I do after I dist-upgrade?
[02:50] <squinty> numbertheorist:  Books: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz   http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php http://
[02:50] <jflory7_> As compared to a dedicated server.
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah you can just use virtualbox too though
[02:50] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, but cheap VPSes are pretty sweet
[02:50] <ioURT> if i tun a VPN people will rent it from me?
[02:51] <ioURT> tun/run
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> jflory7_, by dedicated do you mean a server that you have local hacces too?
[02:51] <jflory7_> Antone think they might know the solution to this problem? I am trying to install Ubuntu on an ASUS laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed. I am trying to make it run side-by-side with Windows. However, I am having some issues using the Aptio Setup Utility in the BIOS/UEFI to get Ubuntu to even load. I have followed the steps in this guide to no avail: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8
[02:51] <jflory7_> The BIOS/UEFI on this laptop is confusing and does not have a clear way to make Ubuntu load.
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> ioURT, VPS not VPN
[02:51] <numbertheorist> well, ive done the google x,y,z thing. but id like to know what terms like sudo, apt, etc actually mean. instead of just copying/pasting lines of code
[02:51] <dts|pokeball> if you have some money, i really recommend demonvps
[02:52] <jflory7_> dts|pokeball: Dedicated as in renting out the entire machine versus sharing it with other clients
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> jflory7_, ah
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, you can get books on the topic too but the manual pages linked and just doing things is generally more conducive to learning/retaining things
[02:52] <PolarisX|MetalSt> My organization does everything through OVH /Soyoustart adn we are having great luck
[02:52] <Bashing-om> CalebW: See what card is installed and IF there is a driver installed (sudo lshw -C display ), and IF that driver is proprietary .. see what happens with a 'nomodeset' boot parameter.
[02:52] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, also can use the, man command to get more info about specific programs
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, sudo is for giving you temporary access to root. apt(itude) is a package manager
[02:52] <dts|pokeball> man is your bible
[02:53] <dts|pokeball> hold tight to it and never let it go
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are also courses you can take online if you're interested in getting some more guided lessons
[02:53] <ioURT> i hate religion
[02:53] <|aaron> bashing-om: finished reinstalling. the 'additional drivers' tab is empty
[02:53] <numbertheorist> so sudo logs you in as an admin basically?
[02:53] <CalebW> It's an Intel graphic card
[02:53] <dts|pokeball> numbertheorist, kind of. su root does that (or at least i think its su root)
[02:53] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, essentially but check man sudo, can see details
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> sudo just lets you do what a root can for that one command
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> and wafflej0ck is correct
[02:54] <numbertheorist> i'm not much for courses, i already have a full course load at school ;P
[02:54] <ioURT> but theres no toot in ubuntu
[02:54] <ioURT> root
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> yes there is...
[02:54] <sivik> Is there a way to match one key press with a combination of other keys?
[02:54] <ioURT> there isnt
[02:54] <dts|pokeball> considering im logged in as root to my vps atm, yes there is
[02:54] <EriC^^> revo: how big is your disk?
[02:55] <ioURT> you can add root user on ubuntu
[02:55] <numbertheorist> ty
[02:55] <revo> 500gb
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> ioURT, root is the default user
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> it creates a root user on install
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> for desktop at lelast
[02:55] <EriC^^> revo: ok you can give windows as much as you want i guess
[02:55] <EriC^^> revo: 100gb or something
[02:55] <dts|pokeball> though the server distro should too
[02:55] <Bashing-om> |aaron: Humm .. Surprising .. what returns -> ubuntu-drivers devices , ubuntu-drivers list <- ??
[02:56] <revo> ok, but how should i set it though...because when i run the windows cd, it says its going to format the entire drive
[02:56] <revo> for instance
[02:56] <ioURT> its going to format the entire partition
[02:57] <revo> when installing xubuntu,  i parted the disk in 3 diferent logical system
[02:57] <revo> one for the swap
[02:57] <chettikandathil> waking up from pmsuspend, i get a black screen. is there a patch for this bug?
[02:57] <EriC^^> revo: you have to choose manual partitioning in windows
[02:57] <revo> another as mount point
[02:57] <Bashing-om> CalebW: Intel ? not according to that last output we looked at .. that were Nvidia ? Something going on here we are not aware of like ->> hybrid Graphics <<-- ??
[02:57] <numbertheorist> ooh, thx. this man command will help a lot to puzzle out the terminal
[02:57] <revo> and the other as root
[02:57] <ady> can anyone tell me why hdmi dont work on laastest version of ubuntu ?
[02:57] <wafflej0ck> ady, should be fine are you on 14.04 or 14.10?
[02:57] <revo> yeah, but windows 8 doesnt give you that option
[02:57] <revo> it just says install
[02:58] <wafflej0ck> ady, I'm on 14.04 and all good with HDMI and VGA out hooked up Intel HD4000 graphics chipset
[02:58] <EriC^^> revo: there's a manual partitioning menu
[02:58] <revo> is there any youtube videos you can forward link...
[02:59] <EriC^^> not really
[02:59] <revo> be easier if i follow a video tut while doing t6hat
[02:59] <ioURT> why dont intell stop trying to make grafics?
[02:59] <ady> wafflej0ck so mine broken
[02:59] <revo> ok
[02:59] <revo> ok so manual partition
[02:59] <revo> and then ....
[02:59] <ioURT> at least on desktops
[02:59] <cabbie> ive tried different instals when i boot from cd it drops then only cursor upper left
[03:00] <EriC^^> revo: hold on
[03:00] <EriC^^> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/the-complete-guide-to-a-windows-8-clean-installation/
[03:00] <EriC^^> figure F
[03:00] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, eh it's gotten better, they aren't too terrible and good to give Nvidia and ATI some competition
[03:01] <|aaron> bashing-om: both of those commands return nothing
[03:01] <ioURT> like intell isnt expensive enough
[03:01] <revo> er <tab>
[03:01] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, mine has some problem CRTC error when having the built in monitor plus two externals but aside from that it's all good for HD video just not great for games
[03:01] <Bashing-om> CalebW: IF this is integrated "It's an Intel graphic card" AND an PCIE Nvidia graphics card, then : http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/prime-indicator-lets-you-quickly-switch.html .
[03:01] <ioURT> anything can play HD movies
[03:01] <revo> er <tab>
[03:02] <ioURT> even a mobile cpu
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, not true you should see my parents computer :)
[03:02] <EriC^^> revo: press tab
[03:02] <revo> EriC^^,  testing
[03:02] <ioURT> even raspbery
[03:02] <ioURT> can play HD
[03:02] <numbertheorist> when i try to log in as the superuser using the su command, the terminal won't accept my password. am i missing something?
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, Raspberry Pi can but it's at the peak of it's performance
[03:02] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, and it has some decent GPU
[03:03] <ioURT> who cares just as long as it can
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> right but with no GPU it doesn't work
[03:03] <wafflej0ck> even with a decent relatively modern CPU
[03:03] <ioURT> its not like you will be doing anything else wile watching the movie
[03:03] <chettikandathil> numbertheorist, can you do sudo <command>?
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, yeah but on a 3.0GHz single core it's still choppy playing back video (HD is a frame every 10 seconds or something)
[03:04] <ioURT> single core has grafics?
[03:04] <wafflej0ck> with no GPU I mean and running a regular Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome edition
[03:04] <numbertheorist> yeah, i just tried using the su command to login as the superuser(im assuming thats the root), but it wont accept my password, says authentication failed
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, no it's a piece of junk, but sayin' they still exist, almost gone but still exists, and intel graphics are good enough for stuff outside of gaming
[03:05] <revo>  EriC^^  test
[03:05] <chettikandathil> numbertheorist, if you know your password, try sudo su. it will work. with your password.
[03:05] <ioURT> with out GPU on old single core you cant watch anything
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> yeah terrible
[03:05] <dts|pokeball> where can i find my httpd.conf file?
[03:05] <dts|pokeball> for apache?
[03:05] <numbertheorist> yeah that worked
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> dtcrshr, /etc/apache2
[03:05] <revo>  EriC^^  test
[03:05] <somsip> dts|pokeball: /etc/apache2
[03:05] <ioURT> its a headless machine
[03:05] <wafflej0ck> oops meant dts|pokeball
[03:06] <dts|pokeball> someon, ty
[03:06] <ioURT> no gpu no screen .
[03:06] <dts|pokeball> ty wafflej0ck
[03:06] <ioURT> LOL
[03:06] <Bashing-om> |aaron: I am done for this session, IF you think you have hybrid grahics, homework: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .
[03:06] <CalebW> Bashing-om: What do you mean the last output we looked at?
[03:06] <EriC^^> revo: yeah it's working great
[03:06] <|aaron> bashing-om: thanks, no i doubt
[03:06] <CalebW> Bashing-om: What do you mean the last output we looked at?
[03:06] <|aaron> dont*
[03:06] <numbertheorist> so what is the superuser password, if it's not someone's main account password?
[03:07] <|aaron> anyone have any idea on how to get a quadro k2200 working with ubuntu? ive tried the installer from nvidia's site and the nvidia-current package, both give me the same result when i reboot: desktop background comes up but no menus/launcher/etc
[03:07] <eaglesharklion> there is none unless you set one up numbertheorist
[03:07] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, well I suppose saying "no graphics" was a stretch but no dedicated graphics chipset just on board junk, I threw a PCI one in there at some point but had physical problems cause of crappy case design so ended up taking it out
[03:07] <numbertheorist> ahh
[03:07] <Bashing-om> CalebW: I could have my wires crossed, were we not working with an Nvidia, to install the 304.32/65 driver ?
[03:07] <eaglesharklion> you just use sudo to run commands as root
[03:07] <ioURT> thats hoe secure ubuntu is for you
[03:08] <ioURT> anything can run with admin
[03:08] <ioURT> just like windows
[03:08] <ioURT> :)
[03:08] <numbertheorist> so thats why ppl say linux is more secure than windows, everything is more locked down
[03:08] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, it's part of it
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  coming back to partition system
[03:09] <ioURT> linux is safer from user input
[03:09] <EriC^^> revo: ok
[03:09] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, part of it is the size and education of the community, part of it is the system itself in terms of the kernel ring buffer and security stuff the kernel does to protect itself
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  go manual and then choose what ?
[03:09] <ioURT> if you are using the old distros
[03:09] <revo> EriC^^,  actually wait a sec there
[03:10] <EriC^^> revo: press on the free unallocated space, then press install there
[03:10] <ioURT> ubuntu defeated that
[03:10] <dts|pokeball> somsip, it wasnt anywhere there, but i have to step away. can i get your help when i get back maybe?
[03:10] <revo> EriC^^,  what about the grub menu...i currently dont have one installed
[03:10] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there are lots of things that tend to make it more secure, it's a big focus, but as we all saw with heartbleed and shell shock and poodle and stuff it doesn't mean it's completely free of errors or vulnerabilities, but it has a good track record in general
[03:10] <pixelkat> man
[03:10] <EriC^^> revo: grub's installed, it just doesn't show up
[03:10] <pixelkat> this channel is WAY more active than elementary
[03:10] <revo> EriC^^,  it just goes directly into xubuntu
[03:11] <ioURT> the secure OS is openBSD
[03:11] <revo> EriC^^,  meaning when i install windows back it will pop up <grub> at start
[03:11] <numbertheorist> probably being open source makes it more secure in general as exploits would be spotted more often
[03:11] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, I have heard good things about BSD (listen to BSD now shows and from a few others), and seems very security focused
[03:11] <ioURT> they just found s server exploits that date back from 1985
[03:12] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah that's part of it too, we don't know what the heck MS is doing or any other proprietary stuff
[03:12] <pixelkat> whats best linux distro for making minecraft server?
[03:12] <EriC^^> revo: no, when you install windows it will eat grub and it will boot straight into windows
[03:12] <ioURT> its for cleaning up boot sector virus
[03:12] <EriC^^> revo: you'll have to use the live usb to reinstall grub afterwards
[03:13] <EriC^^> ioURT: like other bootloaders?
[03:13] <ioURT> if they boot virus
[03:13] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, a bit of it is security through obscurity too (not generally a good point but it's true) less users means a smaller target (not true on the server side though or mobile for that matter)
[03:13] <ioURT> you could make a bootloader that would install a trojan on your BIOS
[03:14] <revo> EriC^^,  and is there a tutorial on how to re-install grub whitout afctng my current installation of xubuntu?
[03:14] <ioURT> like a bios firmware update
[03:14] <ioURT> but only that its a virus/trojan
[03:14] <ioURT> and with intel vpro that would work wonders
[03:14] <Poizon> helo
[03:15] <wafflej0ck> hello Poizon
[03:15] <eaglesharklion> wafflej0ck, what is the kernel ring buffer?
[03:15] <EriC^^> !grub | revo
[03:15] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/dmesg.htm
[03:15] <Darknet> so i am running ubuntun on my digitalocean vps, and i want to add a ftp user to be allowed to upload stuff from a program called mircstats. I am unsure how to edit/add/remove ftp accounts. can someone explain me a little? or show me a guide? (not from 2001)
[03:15] <ioURT> http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-intel-vpro-exactly/
[03:16] <revo> hx guys
[03:16] <revo> thx
[03:16] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, there are some good wikipedia articles that explain how security elevation for the kernel to access certain things differs between OS X and Windows and Linux... will let you know if I can dig it up
[03:17] <ioURT> making a virus/trojan that flashes it self on the BIOS its every hacker wetdream
[03:17] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, this one gets into it a bit but think it was a different one I read before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel
[03:17] <ioURT> even after OS reinstall it would happily survive
[03:18] <numbertheorist> yeah, i was wondering about AV software for linux, there doesnt seem to be much
[03:18] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, kdenlive is nice for editing video
[03:18] <reki007> hello first time using IRC anyone can read this ?
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, hydrogen is a pretty neat little music thing but think you need a ppa for that
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> reki007, yup we see you
[03:19] <numbertheorist> i meant antivirus, probably shoulve spelled it
[03:19] <reki007> wafflej0ck: :)
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, ah hehe
[03:19] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, acronyms messing me up today :P
[03:19] <mladoux> numbertheorist, if you don't mind doing a lot of research, blender has a lot of options that make it a good video editor, however, it has a very steep learning curve.
[03:19] <ioURT> AV is just a panacea
[03:19] <pixelkat> did anyone asnwer my q about best linux distro for minecraft server?
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, there is clamav but mostly for scanning for windows viruses, there's also rkhunter, and fail2ban (for blocking bad logins/IPs)
[03:20] <mladoux> pixelkat, anything server edition, pretty much all the same, minecraft just requires java really.
[03:20] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, oh yeah and lynis for checking for hardening steps you can take
[03:20] <PolarisX|MetalSt> What about tripwire for intrusion?
[03:20] <pixelkat> aye, ok
[03:20] <Novice201y> Hi. Do You recommend a client for Evernote, or an alternative to it? I need an app which db could be accessed on several machines (Linux, Windows, Android).
[03:21] <wafflej0ck> PolarisX|MetalSt, have not seen that one...
[03:21] <eaglesharklion> you don't need antivirus software on ubuntu if you only install packages signed by ubuntu... what best can be done?
[03:21] <PolarisX|MetalSt> we use it on our dedicated box
[03:21] <ioURT> you can use the cloud to store all your files they run AV on them for you
[03:22] <ioURT> its a win win
[03:22] <numbertheorist> hmm, i might grab that lynis program
[03:22] <revo> EriC^^,  can i increase the size of my swap, the sytem created a default amount of my RAM 4gb but i wanted to have this twice the amount 8000mb
[03:22] <EriC^^> revo: it's not really needed usually
[03:23] <numbertheorist> well, i use a flash drive between lxle and windows 7, so ill probably grab clam as well
[03:23] <EriC^^> revo: i guess you have 4gb and it made 4gb swap
[03:23] <ioURT> windows virus dont run on linux
[03:23] <eaglesharklion> apt-get already checks every package's integrity at installation time
[03:23] <revo> EriC^^,  ok in that case...then leave it...saw a video of this girl nixie pixel, that shows to double up this size,
[03:23] <ioURT> you can run thrm under wine
[03:24] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Is that girls videos worth anything to follow or is she BS?
[03:24] <PolarisX|MetalSt> I saw a few along the way.
[03:24] <revo> its ok, i guess
[03:25] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, seems like a lot of work to run a virus :P but really I use it on a e-mail server, gotta scan those e-mails for your windows users
[03:25] <ioURT> can someone kline londoncalling ?
[03:25] <revo> i dont know nothing about ubuntu and in all honesty, i feels good to follow her videos as i get to mess about with this ystem and learn with my mistakes
[03:25] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Same, like I said I'm trying to manage a team but I don't know enough Linux to be hands on witht them and be the best manager I can
[03:26] <ioURT> too bad ubuntu doesent have snapshots
[03:26] <numbertheorist> yeah thats my main concern, i dont want a virus getting on my flash drive and then infecting my copy of windows i use on my other computer
[03:26] <EriC^^> ioURT: i think you can do that with lvm
[03:26] <|aaron> anyone have any idea on how to get a quadro k2200 working with ubuntu? ive tried the installer from nvidia's site, the nvidia-current package and sgfxi.. all give me the same result when i reboot: desktop background comes up but no menus/launcher/etc
[03:26] <ioURT> default install doesent use LVM
[03:26] <revo> would be great if i could insert the xubuntu installation help screen at boot...is there any way of adding that slide into my boot process ?
[03:27] <eaglesharklion> is this nixie pixel doing naked shit?
[03:27] <EriC^^> ioURT: it's an option
[03:27] <numbertheorist> nixie pixel is hot
[03:27] <revo> got really great info, actually i found out about this chat group there...i mean by pressing on the help button in that screen
[03:27] <ioURT> revo:did the default install
[03:28] <aaa801> so.. aparantly my apt is broken
[03:28] <revo> what?
[03:28] <aaa801> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/c45GoMGh
[03:28] <revo> default install ???
[03:28] <ioURT> i was talking to EriC^^
[03:28] <jeffrey_f> numbertheorist: You would need to put a good amount of effort into getting a virus in linux.  You can download it, but it needs specific permission to run and unlike Windows, nothing runs unless you run it (generally)
[03:29] <ioURT> you can get it from ppas
[03:29] <revo> what is that ppas
[03:29] <revo> r u talking to me ??
[03:30] <revo> dis is confusing
[03:30] <ioURT> im taslking to jeffrey_f
[03:30] <numbertheorist> i guess instead of using antivirus on linux, i could just always scan my flash drive with webroot on windows, before i use anything
[03:30] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: what is ppas?
[03:30] <pixelkat> personal package archives
[03:30] <numbertheorist> just to be on the safe side ;)
[03:30] <ioURT> !tell jeffrey_f about ppa
[03:31] <pixelkat> its where people host their scripts, .debs, etc.
[03:31] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: I know about ppa's......just not about ppas
[03:31] <numbertheorist> mainly im using linux right now for gnu octave, as it seems to have problems on windows. my professor recommended linux, said windows is shit lol
[03:31] <jeffrey_f> :}
[03:32] <ioURT> its the plural of ppa
[03:32] <eaglesharklion> your professor is wise
[03:32] <numbertheorist> what is ppa? i keep seeing that term
[03:32] <ioURT> jeffrey_f: maybe you need to go back to primary
[03:33] <numbertheorist> nvm, someone answered that above me
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, it's a private repository run by someone in the world, lets you get packages but isn't checked by canonical
[03:33] <basil1x> ppa is a thingy that adds a private repo to apt
[03:33] <basil1x> What the corrugated one said.
[03:33] <numbertheorist> so theoretically ppas are more risky?
[03:33] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yeah octave is interesting
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, yea
[03:34] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, like sideloading apps on your phone
[03:34] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: I got that, just temporarily confused thinking ppas was something else.....Just used to seeing acronym plurals with an apostrophe
[03:34] <ioURT> depends on how much you trust ubuntu
[03:34] <basil1x> Theoretically.  In practice, it's hard to get by without one or two, if you're using Ubuntu for everything.
[03:34] <numbertheorist> i dont trust anyone lol
[03:34] <numbertheorist> everyone has an agenda
[03:34] <wafflej0ck> numbertheorist, eh well you gotta trust to some degree unless you're writing your whole system
[03:35] <Lor_> M'kay...Interesting thing here. For whatever reason, Ubuntu does not seem to like my Mac's Airport hardware..
[03:35] <ioURT> i dont even trust myself
[03:35] <numbertheorist> thats true
[03:35] <ioURT> i have a calendar
[03:35] <ioURT> it commes with ubuntu
[03:36] <brandonbullet> hey i need help with netflix and lubuntu 14.10
[03:36] <ioURT> ah lub
[03:36] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:37] <jeffrey_f> if you are paranoid, ya can always grab source, inspect it, then compile it
[03:37]  * basil1x passes over the silverfoil
[03:37] <brandonbullet> i still get the errorcode even tho libnss should be updated
[03:37] <ioURT> if you are paranoid you can make your OS from scratch
[03:38] <numbertheorist> the truth is out there
[03:38] <jeffrey_f> Thanks basil1x......
[03:38] <basil1x> LFS is not my kinda fun.
[03:38] <ioURT> i mean make your own kernel too
[03:38] <ioURT> and compiler
[03:38] <basil1x> *yuerkkk*
[03:38] <ioURT> odcourse
[03:38] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:39] <eaglesharklion> you don't need to make your own, only to check the source and compile yourself
[03:39] <numbertheorist> it doesnt matter anyways, privacy has ceased to exist by and large(if it ever existed)
[03:39] <revo> any1 ???
[03:39] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:39] <ioURT> you must make your compiler
[03:40] <ioURT> or read the compiler code
[03:40] <revo> iourt...r u talking 2 me
[03:40] <ioURT> and good luck with that
[03:40] <jeffrey_f> ioURT: my first run in with Linux was from an installer which booted a network loader, pulled source and compiled it as it went.  At some point, a few hours later, I had a bare-bones linux box with no GUI and no software..........Just Linux
[03:40] <numbertheorist> i know an app on windows, but not on linux
[03:40] <revo> ioURT,  wr u talking 2 me ?
[03:40] <ioURT> NO
[03:40] <eaglesharklion> problem: what system are you going to use to do that? can you trust it? chicken and egg problem :D
[03:41] <ioURT> do it on your own VM
[03:41] <brandonbullet> can anyone help?
[03:41] <eaglesharklion> or hand compile (to solve the problem you mentionned)
[03:42] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, just start manufacturing your own chips and boards :)
[03:42] <ioURT> you can do it using python
[03:42] <PolarisX|MetalSt> Why am I missing some system settings options? I'm on 14.10 and guides keep referencing me to settings that dont exist
[03:42] <revo> is there any app that i can install that controls things like cpu, fan, memory that i can run live in my desktop?
[03:42] <ioURT> it dosent compile
[03:42] <ioURT> lol
[03:42] <eaglesharklion> just directly write your OS in machine langage
[03:42] <eaglesharklion> :D
[03:42] <numbertheorist> ive just started learning python
[03:42] <ioURT> isnt that the way its supposed to be?
[03:43] <revo> is there any xubuntu rooms here, can sum1 tell me how do i search for IRC channels
[03:43] <ioURT> the kernel should be writen in machine code
[03:43] <ioURT> asmmbler
[03:43] <ioURT> asm
[03:43] <eaglesharklion> it works well with other langages (like C)
[03:44] <numbertheorist> hell write it in binary
[03:44] <eaglesharklion> only some portions in assembly
[03:44] <eaglesharklion> machine langage is binary (not to be confused with asm)
[03:45] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:45] <ioURT> you should be able to write a microkernel all in ASM
[03:45] <numbertheorist> i thought machine language was assembly language
[03:45] <eaglesharklion> ioURT, it's hard enough in C
[03:45] <jeffrey_f> revo: do /list
[03:46] <ioURT> you could even have difrent instaces running on difrent cores
[03:46] <jeffrey_f> asm is barely above machine language
[03:46] <eaglesharklion> numbertheorist, asm is human readable/writable.. after assembling it results in machine code
[03:46] <Sa[i]nT> asm is barely human readable.
[03:46] <function9x> yep ^
[03:47] <ioURT> its readable bacecause binary its totally unreadable
[03:47] <numbertheorist> i see
[03:47] <wafflej0ck> yeah ASM-> machine code is a matter of mapping "human readable" like ADD, LOAD, MOVE, PUSH, POP into 0001, 0010, 0011
[03:48] <Sa[i]nT> I don't know if it would be that much faster than if it was written in C.
[03:48] <eaglesharklion> wafflej0ck, that and resolving addresses, and maybe other little things...
[03:48] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, yeah true there are other parts to it
[03:49] <ioURT> you dont want to use untrusted libs
[03:49] <ioURT> or libs that do way to much
[03:50] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, yeah the academic point was to make a system that doesn't require you to trust others... in the case of C you have to write the compiler, I mean this is basically what RMS, Linus and friends did but just talking if you didn't trust that either, but really we all went on a far tangent, were talking PPAs originally
[03:51] <ioURT> the more the features the more the ways to make it misbehave
[03:51] <jeffrey_f> All languages result in machine code.  one line of C could result in 10 - 20 lines of asm
[03:51] <eaglesharklion> make it 1-20
[03:52] <Sa[i]nT> I'd love to see an OS written in an Very High Programming Language.
[03:52] <jeffrey_f> true, depends on the complexity too
[03:52] <numbertheorist> idk, its all over my head at this point, im just starting to teach myself python
[03:52] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, what c statement becomes 1 line?
[03:52] <function9x> Sa[i]nT: like C++?
[03:52] <eaglesharklion> a++; /* ah */
[03:53] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, don't think so that'd have to load the value of A, Add to A, and save A
[03:53] <Sa[i]nT> function9x, like perl, python, or Ocaml/Scala. Hell, maybe even Ruby.
[03:53] <eaglesharklion> a could be stored in a register already
[03:54] <wafflej0ck> eagles0513875, okay true I suppose, have been away from CS classes for too long
[03:54] <function9x> Sa[i]nT: perl python are scripting languages.
[03:54] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah.
[03:54] <nmatrix9> Anyone ever have an issue where when they tried to access a samba share through a linux app no matter what password or user account is used they always get permission denied, even when you know the password is correct?
[03:55] <bradley23228> I just hooked up dual monitors and want a new video card
[03:55] <nmatrix9> Or when you directly can access the share through a file explorer?
[03:55] <Sa[i]nT> This is about to be 2015. Things don't have to be in assembly anymore.
[03:55] <nmatrix9> Sa[i]nT, I want my hover board
[03:55] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, well most of us don't write it but it still needs to be there
[03:56] <ioURT> Sa[i]nT:evey language has to translate into ASM
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> It should just be OS.run() by now.
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> Yeah it does.
[03:56] <Sa[i]nT> In the end, it's all the same.
[03:57] <wafflej0ck> Sa[i]nT, really a lot of stuff like Qt/QML and all the other places JS type stuff is used it really is just about as easy as you say for high level programming
[03:57] <MrSavage> I have an issue with the flash player. When I fullscreen adobe flash player, shortcuts don't work
[03:57] <daftykins> nmatrix9: i'd read logs to see what's going on :P
[03:57] <MrSavage> which is interfering with the game i just bought, neoscavenger
[03:58] <nmatrix9> daftykins, which logs?  /Var/logs?
[03:59] <nmatrix9> daftykins, I am trying to use backintime to backup to a samba share on my NAS
[03:59] <eaglesharklion> on x86: INC r/m32 ... can work directly on a memory location (that's what the 'm' means)
[03:59] <daftykins> that's where they're kept, yep.
[03:59] <somsip> eaglesharklion: this doesn't appear to be anything to do with ubuntu support.
[04:00] <somsip> eaglesharklion: so can you take this converation private or to offtopic please
[04:00] <oolnig> Hello all.  Is there a way to allow certain packages to be pulled from the repos for higher distribution versions?
[04:00] <ioURT> can a neutron flip a ram bit?
[04:01] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: where is the folder located?
[04:01] <somsip> ioURT: also offtopic. Can we get back on support in here please
[04:01] <wafflej0ck> ioURT, numbertheorist eagles0513875  should take our conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <numbertheorist> i have a question, someone suggested the ubuntu manual earlier for someone new to linux. would it work as well for lxle? as i understand it lxle is just a derivative of ubuntu
[04:02] <somsip> !manual | numbertheorist (it's here, and it contains general info - have a look for yourself)
[04:03] <numbertheorist> ok
[04:03] <shwaiil> Q: When I bought this computer I've installed Ubuntu and then windows. I use windows rarely, maybe 3 times a year. I have to uninstall it and reinstall it again, because this license is not mine. Will this screw my Ubuntu ?!
[04:03] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, smb://dlink-5535f5/upload
[04:04] <daftykins> shwaiil: perhaps you shouldn't break the law
[04:04] <MyLittlePonyBron> hi
[04:04] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: The physical folder, not the share alias
[04:04] <MyLittlePonyBron> Help meh :(
[04:05] <somsip> !ask | MyLittlePonyBron
[04:05] <MyLittlePonyBron> I'm new to ubuntu how do i get programs and do stuff!
[04:05] <numbertheorist> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[04:05] <numbertheorist> lol i was just given it
[04:06] <somsip> numbertheorist: that's how this place works :)
[04:06] <shwaiil> daftykins, what do you mean ? the license was provided to me when working as a developer for someone's else's agency. I'm not working there anymore not that I'm using pirated software
[04:06] <daftykins> shwaiil: not legal then.
[04:07] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I don't think I understand the physical folder?  On my NAS?
[04:07] <shwaiil> daftykins, do you even know what you're talking about ?
[04:07] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, Volume_1/Public/upload
[04:07] <daftykins> shwaiil: depends if you've explained it properly or not :)
[04:09] <shwaiil> daftykins, there's nothing wrong about what I said. I'll install a new copy of windows with a new license because the current one is not mine and will expire soon. you assumed I'm using pirated OS.
[04:09] <shwaiil> and that wasn't even my question.
[04:09] <daftykins> well, that isn't permitted, so perhaps you should stop doing that
[04:10] <shwaiil> daftykins, are you nuts ? do you even know how companies run and get licenses for developers
[04:10] <shwaiil> what a douche
[04:10] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: (anyone correct me if I am wrong)....Permissions are top down.  Even if permissions on a subfolder is given, you may not be able to access it if the upper level folders do not allow it.
[04:11] <daftykins> shwaiil: there's no need to start calling me names just 'cause you can't explain yourself
[04:11] <daftykins> nobody needs to repeatedly reinstall Windows to do development work
[04:12] <wafflej0ck> shwaiil, don't resort to name calling you may want to consider installing in a virtual environment MS even provides images for testing sites in older versions of ie
[04:12] <shwaiil> daftykins, what ? I didn't said that, that's your assumption. I'm not working for this agency that provide me with the current license and I'm officially on holidays till I start a different role in a different company
[04:13] <daftykins> i'll tell you something, it only tends to be those doing something wrong that get so defensive so quickly.
[04:13] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: check the top volume permissions on down and ensure you have permissions down to the sub-folder(s)
[04:13] <shwaiil> daftykins, ok cool!
[04:13] <shiggitay> Anyone here have an HP TouchPad and have developed for it?
[04:13] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, yeah double checking
[04:14] <shiggitay> I have but but I don't dev.... but I"m trying to get novacomd loaded
[04:14] <daftykins> shiggitay: sorry, that's not ubuntu support really. HP pulled the SDK tools, but i think they can be found in some places still
[04:15] <daftykins> shiggitay: #cyanogenmod-touchpad exists btw
[04:15] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think there may be a bug in Konqueror
[04:15] <shiggitay> daftykins, I know but I don't want to put android on the TP
[04:16] <shiggitay> I simply want to communicate with it over the commandline
[04:16] <daftykins> shiggitay: right but that channel might help with the dev tools :P
[04:16] <daftykins> shiggitay: certainly far more relevant than here is.
[04:16] <shiggitay> k
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: you say you mounted the NAS share on your system?
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: or is the NAS being accessed directly??
[04:18] <xoxo> hi does anyone know about grub2 errors?
[04:19] <xoxo> http://pastebin.com/hkbYGubD
[04:19] <xoxo> I'm getting for an error message at startup
[04:19] <xoxo> I tried reinstalling numerous times
[04:19] <xoxo> grub won't install
[04:22] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I created a NAS link in Konqueror  I tried to create a mount point yesterday but that did not work.  Now my previous user account is no longer working, just a min
[04:23] <MyLittlePonyBron> can i test file send on one of you here
[04:24] <nnioo> xoxo: check ur partition
[04:24] <daftykins> MyLittlePonyBron: no. ask in #freenode
[04:25] <bradley23228> I had Mint 17 and went back to 14.04 LTS
[04:25] <sivik> bradley23228, why didn't you like mint?
[04:25] <jeffrey_f> MyLittlePonyBron: Do not send files to me unsolicited.  Thanks!
[04:25] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, really weird, my previous password and access no longer works
[04:26] <bradley23228> mint was OK for a bit became unstable for me
[04:26] <sivik> then it was probably something you installed.  I have no issue with it
[04:26] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think I'll force reboot the NAS
[04:26] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: isn't the NAS managed via web browser??
[04:26] <bradley23228> I like Mint just have Ubuntu now :D
[04:27] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, yes
[04:28] <bradley23228> my father has a PC i built on a frame with Mint and he was had WIN XP up until 6 months ago
[04:28] <daftykins> bradley23228: this isn't a chat channel, it's a place for support questions regarding ubuntu alone. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:29] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: I'd use a different browser then remove and reinstate the share.  Maybe something with the browser, as you said, a bug.....use firefox or crhome
[04:31] <shiggitay> OKay so here's a Ubuntu question: is there any word of baytrail support in 15.04?
[04:31] <xangua> !15.04 | shiggitay
[04:32] <shiggitay> xangua, thanks
[04:38] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, I think when I installed backintime something was removed or uninstalled cause now non of my user accounts work
[04:39] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: Which user accounts?  On NAS or your system
[04:41] <nmatrix9> jeffrey_f, to access the NAS from my system
[04:43] <jeffrey_f> nmatrix9: Thats not good.  anything on NAS.....Suggest a factory reset on NAS (if you can without losing data)
[04:45] <xoxo> nnioo: I earased the partition and reinstalled
[04:51] <FSK405C> so why does grub install fail so bloody often on 12.04 LTS? :(
[05:17] <npssu47081> NP-Hardass: lol
[05:18] <npssu47081> that way you can't type your pw into chat
[05:18] <npssu47081> you're welcome :)
[05:20] <npssu47081> I don't see an S?
[05:21] <Ubnoobtu> Hey, ive got issues
[05:22] <npssu47081> oh
[05:22] <npssu47081> still got alot of learnings yet :D
[05:23] <npssu47081> (someone tries to log in as you)
[05:25] <npssu47081> Jeremy_Cutler last 2 days, building my own kernel, troubleshooting grub, dealing with uefi and bios woes, re-compiling about 4 or 5 different kernels to learn how it's done and getting stuck at every step lol
[05:25] <spectre_> Hello everybody
[05:29] <DJ__> hey all is anyone available to help me troubleshoot some directory permissions on my server? Would super-appreciate it
[05:32] <ioURT> i could but im expensive
[05:33] <phunyguy> ioURT: I am here also.
[05:33] <phunyguy> ioURT: tread lightly, please.
[05:33] <allmountainpro> anyone here know arch
[05:33] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: as in the distro?
[05:33] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: yes
[05:33] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: why are you asking about it here?
[05:34] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: beccause hardcore ubuntu people most likely know about hardcore arch :P
[05:34] <phunyguy> allmountainpro: this is not the place.  Please take it elsewhere/
[05:34] <allmountainpro> phunyguy: your very helpful and welcoming
[05:35] <ioURT> theres no shortage of ubuntu channels
[05:35] <phunyguy> there are also arch channels to ask questions in.  Go figure.
[05:35] <DJ__> My permissions for /var/www are all default. But all folders and files in thatdirectory are owned by my user and the group "webadmin" User and Group Permissions are RWX. I can upload changes to my files in that directory for a while and then I get an error about permission being denied.
[05:35] <bbbbu> Anyone want a babe?
[05:35]  * ioURT wonders how many channels with ubuntu in its name can one make
[05:35] <DJ__> My user is a member of the Webadmin group
[05:36] <phunyguy> bbbbu: no
[05:36] <bbbbu> Anyone?!
[05:36] <allmountainpro> bbbbu: lol
[05:37] <allmountainpro> guess since im running 4 os and because ubuntu isnt the one im having trouble with im not welcome here. could swap ubuntu out for fedora i supoose
[05:37] <allmountainpro> suppose
[05:37] <phunyguy> !ot | allmountainpro
[05:40] <allmountainpro> anyone here know the arch channel name
[05:40] <phunyguy> #archlinux
[05:40] <phunyguy> also
[05:40] <phunyguy> !alis
[05:41] <allmountainpro> jeez phunyguy for all the time you sspent being a troll you could have just helped me
[05:41] <ioURT> allmountainpro:you need to register to chat there
[05:42] <pl1x> lol what's happening here?
[05:42] <phunyguy> okay.
[05:43] <phunyguy> ioURT: enough with the lies please.  If you are not providing or receiving support on #ubuntu, please keep quiet.
[05:43] <phunyguy> that goes for everyone.
[05:43] <allmountainpro> pl1x: phunyguy seems to think trolling is necessary when someone asks for help
[05:44] <ioURT> lies
[05:44] <ioURT> you DO need to register to chat in #archlinux
[05:44] <phunyguy> *** Mode #archlinux +Cnt by asimov.freenode.net
[05:44] <phunyguy> yeah no.
[05:45] <phunyguy> ok back to support.
[05:47] <Donno> Is it possible to "tail -f" a log file
[05:47] <Donno> nvm
[05:47] <phunyguy> I stand corrected.  #archlinux q $~a asimov.freenode.net<PHONE_NUMBER>
[05:47] <phunyguy> regardless... offtopic chat is offtopic.
[05:54] <jdzielny> hello everyone.  I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS on a system that has hardware RAID 1, and it detects the RAID but hangs at "Starting up the partitioner" every time.
[05:56] <jdzielny> The motherboard is an Asus Sabertooth Z97 Mark 1 and it has Intel Rapid Storage Technology hardware RAID.  4 SATA drives configured as two RAID 1 setups
[05:57] <jdzielny> I've searched the Net for the past few hours and can't find anything
[05:57] <daftykins> jdzielny: that's not hardware RAID, likely won't work with ubuntu and should probably be abandoned
[05:57] <phunyguy> that is fakeraid.
[05:57] <phunyguy> !fakeraid
[05:58] <phunyguy> basically the RAID is driver-controlled.
[05:58] <neebs> mumble stop working, when i connect to a server. 14.04 64 bit
[06:00] <jdzielny> so basically, leave the drives all set as normal HDDs and use mdadm?
[06:01] <jdzielny> just install to (what I'll call for discussion) Drive 0, then afterward use mdadm to combine Drive 0 and Drive 1 into a RAID 1, then do the same with Drives 2/3?
[06:03] <jdzielny> following the directions from the page you linked to phunyguy
[06:03] <jdzielny> ?
[06:04] <phunyguy> yes
[06:04] <phunyguy> sorry
[06:04] <phunyguy> I have to go, cya
[06:06] <squigle> nice working netflix now :)
[06:06] <jdzielny> phunyguy, before you go, one quick question: should the SATA mode selection for the mobo be set to RAID or AHCI if I'm doing software RAID using mdadm?
[06:07] <grilled-chese> Just did a clean install of 14.04 and am attempting to restore my nfs export backup, now when my autofs client mounts the directory on a different box all the folders appear to be owned by root
[06:08] <grilled-chese> jdzielny: ahci
[06:08] <jdzielny> grilled-chese, thanks
[06:08] <pixelkat> what
[06:09] <grilled-chese> both my client & server have the same uid/gids
[06:09] <grilled-chese> in the past, autofs just understood the folder permissions and associated them to the correct user
[06:10] <grilled-chese> I can touch a test file in the nfs root
[06:10] <grilled-chese> from the client
[06:11] <grilled-chese>  and that has the right uid/gid associated
[06:11] <grilled-chese> but, I'm confused how it's somehow different now
[06:11] <lickalott> hey all.  if I had options to download a package and they were OpenBSD, FreeBSD or Linux, which would I want for ubuntu?
[06:11] <grilled-chese> linux
[06:11] <grilled-chese> preferably anything ending in .deb
[06:11] <lickalott> thats what I thought.  just wanted to make sure.
[06:11] <lickalott> thanks grilled-chese!
[06:21] <phix> grilled-chese with ham, tomatoe and hot english mustard?
[06:30] <smikims> I've got a weird issue with workspaces: I have it set to dynamic and it won't let me create a new one. When I hit ctrl+alt+down I see the switcher thing but there's only one there and it doesn't switch.
[06:30] <smikims> And when I set it to static with 4, they all show my one workspace--just 4 pictures of it in the overview
[06:30] <smikims> I'm using nvidia's proprietary drivers if that makes a difference (dunno)
[06:36] <smikims> anyone?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:37] <MagePsycho> are you guys using dotfiles in git?
[06:44] <dts|pokeball> MagePsycho, dot files?
[06:45] <MagePsycho> https://github.com/michaeljsmalley/dotfiles
[06:45] <MagePsycho> https://dotfiles.github.io/
[06:55] <QueerTopHat> Hi
[06:56] <QueerTopHat> ok,why is no one here talking T_T
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> ._. Hello?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> QueerTopHat: because this is an ubuntu support chat, only to ask questions
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> oh
[06:57] <QueerTopHat> ok
[06:58] <smikims> speaking of which, does anyone have any idea on my GNOME workspaces problem? (can't make new ones)
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: maybe the #gnome guys can also help you?
[06:59] <smikims> lotuspsychje: no response
[06:59] <smikims> tried there first
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: oh ok :p
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> smikims: anything usefull in your syslog?
[07:00] <smikims> lotuspsychje: where exactly would I be looking?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> smikims: maybe /var/log/syslog or dmesg
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> smikims: are you on classic or gnome shell?
[07:01] <smikims> lotuspsychje: nothing in dmesg
[07:01] <smikims> lotuspsychje: gnome shell
[07:03] <dts|pokeball> hey guys... im trying to get hhvm to work with apache on an ubuntu 14.04 vps, and followed this guide: https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/wiki/fastcgi but it still isnt working. help
[07:03] <smikims> lotuspsychje: I'm seeing "vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device" in syslog but not sure if that's related
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-tweak-tool | smikims try this mate
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> !git | dts|pokeball
[07:05] <dts|pokeball> lotuspsychje, my question has nothing to do with git...
[07:05] <dts|pokeball> other than the guide is hosted on there
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> smikims: or this extension: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: just trying to help mate
[07:05] <smikims> lotuspsychje: the tweak tool doesn't help--setting it to static just shows the same workspace in all spaces
[07:06] <dts|pokeball> appareciate it anyways lotuspsychje :)
[07:06] <sheer> hello senpais
[07:06] <smikims> it's a bug somewhere, not sure if it's GNOME or the packaging or my drivers or what
[07:06] <sheer> i'm trying to get connectable with torrenting
[07:06] <sheer> could anyone PLS Help
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !details | sheer
[07:07] <sheer> lotuspsychje: i've just installed ubuntu recently and I need a static IP in order to seed my torrents!
[07:08] <smikims> sheer: why do you need a static IP?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> sheer: thats a question for the ##networking guys mate
[07:08] <sheer> in order to become "connectable" with torrenting
[07:08] <sheer> i'll try there, thanks lotus
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: maybe the #httpd guys might know this?
[07:09] <dts|pokeball> lotuspsychje, ty
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> sheer: you could also try qbittorent/create torrent
[07:09] <sheer> lotuspsychje: that's not it
[07:09] <smikims> sheer: what exactly is your problem? Why do you need a static IP?
[07:10] <sheer> smikims: i'm following this guide, but i'm stuck since i'm using linux not windows
[07:10] <dts|pokeball> who got banned?
[07:10] <sheer> (or mac) https://www.myanonamouse.net/guides/
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> dts|pokeball: its an unban
[07:11] <dts|pokeball> ah
[07:11] <mwsb> dts|pokeball: ubottu removed a timed ban.
[07:11] <sheer> and ummm if you can't get to that link, smikims, "If your computer / router / torrent client does not automatically  configure itself so that you are connectable, there are three basic  things that need to happen in order for you to become connectable:"
[07:11] <dts|pokeball> as you can tel, im quite tired
[07:11] <smikims> sheer: that site requires a login
[07:12] <sheer> smikims: i'm simply trying to get myself seeding
[07:12] <smikims> sheer: OK, so what exactly is going wrong?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> sheer: wich program are you trying?
[07:13] <sheer> transmission, lotus
[07:13] <sheer> smikims: i'm "not connectable"
[07:13] <smikims> sheer: and transmission is telling you that? Is that the exact message?
[07:14] <sheer> can't even connect to tracker
[07:14] <sheer> so it's not even downloading what i want to reseed
[07:14] <sheer> it downloaded (without seeding) when i had windows
[07:14] <sheer> i downloaded the torrent files but now i can't download
[07:15] <sheer> can't connect to the tracker, it says
[07:15] <smikims> sheer: OK, so that sounds like it's beyond you not being connectable if you can't even reach the tracker
[07:15] <nbusrone> any nvidia user here ? how do I set the brightness for nvidia ? even I set it at the nvidia config setting , it get reset on every reboot
[07:15] <smikims> sheer: have you tried a different torrent/tracker?
[07:16] <sheer> different tracker is NP
[07:17] <smikims> sheer: have you checked your router/firewall settings?
[07:17] <sheer> smikims: don't know how to
[07:17] <sheer> i don't think i have a firewall
[07:17] <sheer> unless it comes with ubuntu
[07:18] <St1gma> $ iptables -L --line-numbers
[07:18] <smikims> sheer: ubuntu shouldn't be blocking anything, I was torrenting something a few hours ago on a new install
[07:18] <smikims> sheer: check your router settings or maybe it's your ISP
[07:18] <smikims> or maybe the tracker's down, idk
[07:18] <smikims> but none of that has to do with you having a static IP
[07:19] <sheer> smikims: i can torrent
[07:19] <sheer> just not from the private tracker
[07:19] <smikims> sheer: oh ok
[07:19] <nbusrone> it even reset my brightness setting everytime I play a youtube video
[07:19] <smikims> sheer: well I'm no bittorrent expert, but is there some kind of authentication for private trackers? Could you be failing that?
[07:21] <St1gma> sheer: private trackers are invite only as far as I know, hence "private".
[07:21] <sheer> St1gma: yes, i have an account and all that
[07:22] <St1gma> sheer: then you want to check with them, doesn't quite seem like a problem with your OS.
[07:22] <sheer> If your computer / router / torrent client does not automatically  configure itself so that you are connectable, there are three basic  things that need to happen in order for you to become connectable:
[07:22] <sheer> The computer running your torrent client (uTorrent, Vuze, etc.) needs to have a static IP.
[07:24] <MagePsycho> can we rename the somebash.sh to somebash and move to /usr/bin folder and run globally?
[07:24] <St1gma> if you set the shebang
[07:24] <St1gma> MagePsycho, ^^
[07:24] <St1gma> MagePsycho, then chmod +x <file>
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> sheer: try the #transmission channel also
[07:25] <sheer> thank you lotus
[07:25] <MagePsycho> i know that .. ./<file.sh>
[07:25] <smikims> sheer: I don't know where they got that from--I've always seeded without a static IP
[07:26] <sheer> i got that from the site and i believe i've seen it being stated before in revolutionTT's private tracker
[07:26] <St1gma> MagePsycho, at the start of your shell file make sure you have the shebang well stated #!/bin/bash or whatever shell you are using. Then $ mv file.sh /usr/bin/file; sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/file
[07:26] <smikims> sheer: I don't think there's any way for them to tell if you have a static IP or not
[07:27] <smikims> sheer: unless you can only register one IP address with them or something like that
[07:27] <MagePsycho> St1gma: seems it works
[07:27] <smikims> although that would be stupid
[07:27] <MagePsycho> St1gma: thanks
[07:27] <nbusrone> no nvidia user here ?
[07:27] <St1gma> MagePsycho, np man
[07:27] <sheer> smikims: why would that be stupid?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> !patience | nbusrone
[07:27] <sheer> because it's the normal way afaik
[07:27] <smikims> sheer: it would be an arbitrary restriction that has no point
[07:28] <MagePsycho> St1gma: where yo guys put the tools sh file? in user/local/bin or home/bin folder?
[07:28] <smikims> and I'm just spitballing here, they probably don't do that
[07:29] <St1gma> MagePsycho, I normally create a /usr/local/scripts directory where I still all my custom stuff then I symlink to /usr/bin
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning
[07:29] <St1gma> MagePsycho, but I don't know if there's any type of convention on that
[07:29] <MagePsycho> St1gma: not bad idea, thanks man
[07:29] <smikims> St1gma: the convention is /usr/local/bin
[07:30] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , hope someone can figure it out
[07:30] <MagePsycho> St1gma: symlink should work fine so that you can have central repository
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: you have the right driver active?
[07:30] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone know how I can see if any of my cairo-related libraries were installed from a ppa?
[07:30] <St1gma> MagePsycho, use what smikims said. That's what I do not /usr/bin
[07:30] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : yep
[07:30] <St1gma> smikims, thanks for the correction
[07:31] <smikims> St1gma: and there should be no symlinks required; /usr/local/bin should already be in your path
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: check your /var/log/syslog or demsg for brightness issues
[07:31] <St1gma> smikims, I know. I like to keep my stuff separate then symlink into the path. That way I know exactly what is custom that I made and what came with the OS. Just easier to maintain.
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around a bit, to see errors in realtime
[07:32] <smikims> St1gma: Well no package I know of puts stuff in /usr/local, that's kind of the point of /usr/local
[07:32] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , but how do I add a brightness setting at xorg ?
[07:33] <smikims> so you can rely on all of that being your stuff
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: first we have to investigate whats wrong exactly
[07:34] <smikims> I take that back; python puts stuff in /usr/local/lib, but I think that's just pip stuff? The directories will be empty unless you install something
[07:35] <St1gma> smikims, that's why I said that what I do serves my purpose only. In my case I run everything in git so I don't want to have that /usr/local/bin that would be counter productive. That is the reason why I symlink. I should have explained myself better the first time I guess. Besides there are some applications that do put things in /usr/local so I just don't want it mixed. Personal hygiene.
[07:36] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : it's like a driver instead , after setting the contrast and brightness at nvidia x sever setting , everytime I restart it reset , I need to start nvidia x server to take affect again.
[07:36] <smikims> St1gma: Ah OK that makes sense
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled/updates enabled?
[07:37] <smikims> St1gma: yeah apparently there are things that make directories there but they'll be empty until you do something to fill them; it's still a "your stuff" place
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: ubuntu version?
[07:37] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : yep , 14.04
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: there must be an error soemwhere, syslog,dmesg or xorg logs
[07:40] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : ok , i try and find out which causes the error
[07:41] <phil__> lol whoops
[07:44] <St1gma> Shirakawasuna: You can look at /var/log/apt/history.log or term.log /var/log/dpkg.log should also provide some insights, but I don't know if they'll indicate if a package came from any specific repo/ppa.
[07:44] <Shirakawasuna> St1gma: okay, thanks for the info!
[07:45] <Shirakawasuna> getting a segfault when trying to use pygtk that involves cairo
[07:52] <MagePsycho> i am always confused about the parameters, for key value pairs how can i pass iin bash script
[07:52] <MagePsycho> for example: somebashscript.sh key1=value1 key2=value2
[07:55] <smikims> MagePsycho: those will be arguments and you'll have to parse them yourself
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> u sure
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> u guys want debian
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> i show u
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> debian
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> http://www.mepis.org/
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> done
[07:56] <whitehat-hacker> this debian version of 0x71 (xc) Our
[07:57] <cfhowlett> whitehat-hacker, no spam please.
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> forsake ubuntu
[07:57] <smikims> MagePsycho: for example in your example key1=value1 will be in $1 (first argument) in your script
[07:57] <MagePsycho> smikims: what if i use - - key1=value1 - -key2=value2
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> no spam
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> We just laugh to ubuntu
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> is backdoored
[07:57] <Benjaminhusky> yes,what you are doing is spam
[07:57] <smikims> MagePsycho: anything after the command name without whitespace in it will be a separate argument
[07:57] <cfhowlett> whitehat-hacker, please go away
[07:57] <whitehat-hacker> u trust this OS
[07:57] <smikims> after that how you parse it is up to you
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !fud | whitehat-hacker
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> get mepis.org
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !ops | whitehat-hacker FUD spam
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> freenode
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> is taken over by 0x71 (xc) Our
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> which is skraito
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> soon
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> which is me
[07:58] <Flannel> whitehat-hacker: Please take it elsewhere, thanks.
[07:58] <whitehat-hacker> who the fuck ure all
[07:59] <MagePsycho> smikims: how you suggest to pass arguments? an easier approach, new to ubuntu
[07:59]  * cfhowlett thinks "well, that escalated quickly ..."
[07:59] <smikims> MagePsycho: you're talking about writing your own script, right, not using someone else's?
[07:59] <whitehat-hacker> :)
[08:00] <whitehat-hacker> ubuntu have 1700 backdoor stupid
[08:05] <smikims> MagePsycho:
[08:05] <smikims> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/192249/how-do-i-parse-command-line-arguments-in-bash
[08:12] <MagePsycho> smikims: that should help… gonna try
[08:23] <Rory> Is it possible to prevent a graphical dialogue asking for my passphrase when I use "gpg -d" from the terminal? Can I enter my password in the terminal window? I'm reasonably sure I have used a Linux distro at some point which had this latter behaviour
[08:23] <Rory> To be clear, I still want to be prompted for a passphrase, but I want the prompt to be in the same terminal I run "gpg -d" from, and not pop up in some dialogue box
[08:42] <BLUG_Fred>  Hi! I upgraded my Ubuntu LTS version from 10.04 to 14.04 and now it seems I can get only one cgi-bin working. The others give me 403. Anybody familiar with the problem?
[08:45] <jimmyd> Im getting a boot failed error trying to boot off the usb stick i made bootable something with a 32 and then a comand line what do i type in to try to fix the problem
[08:46] <Rory> jimmyd: What did you use to create the bootable USB? There are instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[08:46] <Rory> Or for Windows, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:47] <jimmyd> i used unet bootin Rory
[08:47] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, did you 1. verify the .iso   and 2. verify the USB?
[08:47] <Rory> jimmyd: I've had all sorts of problems with unetbootin. My personal favourite program for doing this sort of thing on Windows is LinuxLiveUSB http://www.linuxliveusb.com
[08:48] <Rory> jimmyd: That will also verify the iso for you
[08:48] <cfhowlett> strangely enough, the product created by unetbootin and ubuntu startup disk creator are quite different
[08:48] <jimmyd> no not really no but I am running a xubuntu that i created the same way
[08:48] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, "not really" = I didn't do my due diligence.  sloppy guesses >>> sloppy outcomes
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | jimmyd
[08:49] <White_Cat> I see /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3 when I run /dev/sd*
[08:49] <White_Cat> does that mean I have one drive with 3 partitions?
[08:49] <Rory> jimmyd: It's one of two things. (1) the .iso file you have is incorrect in some way. (2) the .iso file was not written to the USB flash drive correctly.
[08:49] <Rory> White_Cat: Yes
[08:49] <White_Cat> I have a second drive inserted to the sata slot
[08:49] <White_Cat> I wonder why it isnt detected
[08:50] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, +1 rory.  thus my suggestion to md5sum both
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Is it detected in the BIOS?
[08:50] <White_Cat> bios is so convoluted :/ possibly not though
[08:50] <White_Cat> I'll try to verify
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Best to rule that out first, in order to narrow it down to being a problem with Ubuntu
[08:50] <White_Cat> certainly
[08:50] <Rory> White_Cat: Rather than, say, a problem with the drive, motherboard, cable etc
[08:50] <jimmyd> ok lots of information to go on thanks guys
[08:50] <White_Cat> I just wanted to make sure what I am interpreting was correct
[08:51] <White_Cat> there is no cable in this case
[08:51] <Rory> White_Cat: You can use a tool like "gparted" to view/edit partiions graphically if you prefer
[08:52] <jimmyd> again can i check this stuff with a command from the prompt on the failed boot comand line
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jimmyd, read the md5sum wiki I sent you for guidance.
[08:54] <White_Cat> Rory I dont think gparted is compatible with ubuntu server
[08:54] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, not "incompatible" just ... no gui so no gparted.
[08:54] <jimmyd> ok
[08:54] <White_Cat> yeah
[08:54] <Rory> White_Cat: OK, didn't realise. Was just in case you were unaware
[08:55] <White_Cat> is there a console version that does something similar?
[08:55] <White_Cat> wouldnt be a real gui naturally
[08:55] <reggie-man> My DVD doesn't mount when I insert it, and when I try to manually mount it I get "mount: can't find /dev/sr0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[08:56] <Rory> White_Cat: Not the ncurses gui you're imagining. There are command-line tools to manage partitions though, obviously
[08:56] <White_Cat> well yes
[08:56] <White_Cat> so its a text bar instead of a window
[08:56] <White_Cat> something like that
[08:57] <White_Cat> its fine if it displays the information just in text too
[08:57] <White_Cat> I guess what I am trying to as is, what is a gparted-like program for ubuntu server
[08:57] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, fdisk is CLI and has the same functionality
[08:57] <somsip> !info parted | White_Cat (the g is for gui)
[08:58] <White_Cat> bah
[08:58] <White_Cat> g in gparted is gui isnt it?
[08:58] <somsip> White_Cat: gparted = gui parted. Parted = cli parted.
[09:01] <White_Cat> hmm
[09:01] <White_Cat> how can I check if my installation is UEFI compatible?
[09:02] <somsip> !uefi | White_Cat (other than what it says on here, no idea myself)
[09:02] <jimmyd> just so you know im not using windows
[09:02] <White_Cat> I am not either
[09:03] <White_Cat> server takes forever to boot with legacy method
[09:04] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[09:05] <White_Cat> askubuntu.com/questions/91484/how-to-boot-ubuntu-from-efi-uefi
[09:05] <White_Cat> I am unsure how to determine if UEFI is 32 or 64 bit
[09:05] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, trigger the bios ... uefi options should be displayed if available.
[09:05] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, never seen a 32 bit uefi ...
[09:05] <White_Cat> okay
[09:05] <White_Cat> me neither
[09:06] <Shirakawasuna> I have issues with a cinnamon applet segfault - not supported, so I'm not asking how to fix that. I just tested a fresh install in virtualbox and I don't get the problem (a segmentation fault). Any ideas on how to troubleshoot that, i.e., restore to a more 'default' installation state? I know that it's system files, as I've made a new user and the segmentation fault still occurs.
[09:06] <Shirakawasuna> I'm guessing I have some cruft libraries left over, but I have no idea which ones.
[09:06] <lolek> guys, I'm trying to build my own kernel, I've made new flavour and I'm stuck with this: http://www.pasteall.org/55906 #ubuntu-kernel is sleeping probably so if anyone had any idea about this, that would be great
[09:08] <White_Cat> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD"  gives legacy boot on HDD
[09:09] <abhinav> hello
[09:09] <abhinav> i'm new to irc
[09:09] <cfhowlett> abhinav, ask your ubuntu questions
[09:09] <abhinav> i want to start developing
[09:09] <cfhowlett> White_Cat, not sure of the command, but I believe that output shows current configuration ... NOT efi capable yes/no
[09:09] <cfhowlett> abhinav, OK ... and?
[09:10] <abhinav> where do i start
[09:10] <cfhowlett> abhinav, learn python
[09:10] <somsip> !contrubuting | abhinav
[09:10] <abhinav> i know a lot of java
[09:10] <somsip> !contributing | abhinav
[09:10] <abhinav> a little bit of python
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !contribute | abhinav
[09:10] <somsip> cfhowlett: thank you :)
[09:11] <cfhowlett> somsip, happy2help!
[09:11] <abhinav> is python more useful than java?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> abhinav, download.  read.  http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ubuntu-development-special-edition/
[09:12] <abhinav> thank you
[09:13] <White_Cat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/509423/which-commands-to-convert-a-ubuntu-bios-install-to-efi-uefi-without-boot-repair
[09:13] <cfhowlett> abhinav, happy2help!
[09:13] <White_Cat> are these commands rational?
[09:17] <ravi_> Hello there !! can't open .pl file in browser
[09:17] <cfhowlett> ravi_, perl file?
[09:17] <ravi_> yes
[09:18] <cfhowlett> ravi_, works perfectly for me in gedit.  what does cat /etc/issue say?
[09:19] <Turingi> what paint program (similar to paint.net) do people recommend for use with ubuntu, preferably gnome-based
[09:19] <jasonjckn> White_Cat, I think you need GPT disk format for UEFI mode
[09:19] <somsip> !info gpaint | Turingi (maybe)
[09:19] <cfhowlett> Turingi, krita is well documented and quite popular as is GIMP
[09:19] <ravi_> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Turingi, mypaint
[09:20] <cfhowlett> ravi_, so it won't open in FILE browser or web browser?
[09:21] <ravi_> it's asking to download while m trying to access localhost/otrs/installer.pl
[09:21] <cfhowlett> ravi_, so ... web?
[09:21] <Turingi> I tried pinta, but it lacks beziers or the ability to resize selections
[09:22] <ravi_> Firefos
[09:22] <ravi_> forefox
[09:22] <ravi_> sry firefox
[09:22] <cfhowlett> ravi_, firefox doesn't read perl ... without help. there may be a plugin.
[09:22] <ravi_> ok, which plugin shuld i install ?
[09:22] <Turingi> cfhowlett: krita is nice enough though it requires the full kde stack and is currently the only app on my system that would require that
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ravi_, quick search:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cpan/
[09:24] <cfhowlett> Turingi, wait what?  full kde stack?
[09:24] <Turingi> cfhowlett: all the kde-dependencies, a few hundred MB
[09:24] <Turingi> besides krita itself
[09:24] <ravi_> Thaks, let me chk out
[09:25] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone here know how to reinstall / identify all dependencies of a given package?
[09:25] <Shirakawasuna> I'm afraid I have cruft built up somewhere and I want to remove as many non-totally-essential packages in the dependency tree, delete any extra files, and then reinstall them
[09:27] <ravi_> Sorry, you need a Mozilla-based browser (such as Firefox) to install a search plugin.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ravi_, ask #perl about this
[09:28] <ravi_> ok, thanks !!
[09:28] <Turingi> Shirakawasuna: does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y' tell you there are packages you can safely remove?
[09:28] <Shirakawasuna> Turingi: nope
[09:35] <Turingi> Shrirakawasuna: afaik, you can remove apps one by one with apt-get, then do autoremove
[09:36] <Turingi> Shrirakawasuna: for instance, ubuntu software center has a list of 'installed' stuff
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Shirakawasuna, apt-get -s autoremove          to test
[09:37] <Shirakawasuna> Turingi: yeah, I'm currently just removing things I don't care about that don'e come in the default 14.04.1 LTS release
[09:38] <Shirakawasuna> using apt-get autoremove --purge
[09:38] <Shirakawasuna> gonna hope that fixes it
[09:39] <Shirakawasuna> note: just packages that have no reverse dependencies
[09:43] <Guest62552> ok i found my way into the usb stick by typing unetbootindefault after cheking sum and googleing the error message
[09:43] <Guest62552> jimmyd
[09:44] <karl__> Hi, can anyone help please, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 (live cd) trying to install boot-repair with the following commands "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)" but I'm getting the error message "E: Couldn't find package boot-repair" :(
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guest62552, iso checked?  usb checked?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> karl__, is this a server?
[09:45] <karl__> cfhowlett: it's a desktop PC
[09:45] <Guest62552> yes
[09:45] <cfhowlett> karl__, 10.04 is LONG since end of life.  upgrade to a supported version
[09:45] <Guest62552> i was jimmyd
[09:45] <argoneus> hello
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Guest62552, then the issue is not the boot media.
[09:46] <argoneus> I have a ssh key in the .ssh folder on a machine, and I want to move this key to another machine under another account because the old machine is about to be killed
[09:46] <argoneus> is it enough to just copypaste it or what should I do?
[09:46] <Guest62552> it was a problem with unetbootin
[09:46] <karl__> cfhowlett: I have no other live CD, I just need to install boot-repair to recover my partitions windows 7 rudely overwrote my MBR
[09:46] <MasterOfDisaster> argoneus: copy the id_* files.
[09:47] <Guest62552> i found the answer on the unetbootin website duh
[09:47] <cfhowlett> karl__, you do not need boot repair.  install grub then.  boot ubuntu.  then do a dist-upgrade for grub 2
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !grub | karl__
[09:47] <sgo11> hi, I encrypted my home directory and installed samba server. Now, my home directory is constantly unmounted automatically. I think this is because of samba server. how can I prevent this unmount to happen?! this is very annoyed!! "THIS DIRECTORY HAS BEEN UNMOUNTED TO PROTECT YOUR DATA"
[09:47] <DJones> karl__: boot-repair for Lucid doesn't exost in that ppa, probably deleted when 10.04 went end of life
[09:47] <karl__> cfhowlett: ok thank you :) gonna try that now
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !server | sgo11, might want to ask the server channel
[09:48] <sgo11> unmount happens again just now. home directory is unmounted every minute.
[09:48] <sgo11> cfhowlett, this is not a server question.
[09:48] <sgo11> cfhowlett, no server will encrypt home directory.
[09:49] <cfhowlett> sgo11, OK, I misunderestimated
[09:49] <sgo11> cfhowlett, this is about ecryptfs-mount. ok. thanks.
[09:49] <MasterOfDisaster> sgo11: anything helpful in /var/log/*? Share them via pastebin.
[09:49] <sgo11> MasterOfDisaster, let me check log file.
[09:51] <argoneus> thanks MasterOfDisaster
[09:52] <sgo11> MasterOfDisaster, I don't find anything useful in /var/log. which file should I look particularly?
[09:53] <sgo11> after the automatic unmount, I will have two files in home directory only: Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop and README.txt.
[09:54] <sgo11> I can remount my home directory with command "ecryptfs-mount-private". but that doesn't really help much. because my home directory will be umounted quickly after the manual mount.
[09:54] <supernil> How can I change fonts in ubuntu 14.10, when there is no GUI installed?
[09:54] <sgo11> this happens after I enable samba share server and share a directory within my home directory.
[09:55] <Rory> This NTP vulnerability, are we required to update our NTP clients? Or does it only affect NTP servers which are listening on the Internet?
[10:03] <sgo11> by googling, I think umount.ecryptfs_private is called somehow. but I still can not find a way to stop it.
[10:10] <wafflej0ck> Rory, it appears there are some vulnerabilities patched in ntp 4.2.8 the latest from the trusty repos appears to be 4.2.6 so doesn't look like they've been merged in yet
[10:11] <verwilst> 4.2.6p5 have the fixes that are in 4.2.8
[10:11] <wafflej0ck> ah well okay thankx verwilst
[10:13] <wafflej0ck> ah yeah looks like I got that the 22nd
[10:13] <wafflej0ck> so took 4 days from release, pretty snappy
[10:13] <Rory> OK but that doesn't answer my question
[10:13] <Rory> are we required to update our NTP clients? Or does it only affect NTP servers which are listening on the Internet?
[10:13] <Rory> (when the patch is released)
[10:14] <wafflej0ck> Rory, if you have ntpd installed then I imagine you would want to update it
[10:14] <Rory> Eventually, yes. I'm just trying to work out the level of urgency
[10:14] <Rory> Otherwise we'll just update it as a normal part of our next release, rather than some emergency hotfix
[10:17] <wafflej0ck> Rory, dunno what to tell ya just googled about it a bit http://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2014/12/26/why-apple-pushed-its-first-automatic-mac-os-x-security-update-this-week/ <-- given this info I would probably go with updating it sooner rather than later but you know rollback plan and all that if this is for enterprise stuff (I don't need to be telling anyone this I'm sure though)
[10:18]  * cfhowlett just sensed a disturbance in the force ...
[10:18] <kostkon> wafflej0ck, is this the one? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2449-1/
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> kostkon, yeah appears to be the same
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> kostkon, same CVE numbers
[10:26] <Lucax>  Hello, is there a good unix GUI where I can easily optimize picture alt tags?  title tags and alt tags
[10:27] <cfhowlett> Lucax, unix?  ubuntu is linux.  and GUI doesn't edit anything = graphic user interface.
[10:28] <abhinav> can someone give any advice on GSOC 2015?
[10:28] <Lucax> forgive my noobiness language. what i meant is, is there a simple picture program in ubuntu where I can click properties and change the title and alt tags for my seo?
[10:28] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, yeah the question really doesn't make a ton of sense, can you restate... typically alt "tags" and "title" tags are in HTML markup not in the image itself
[10:28] <explosive> !info phatch | Lucax
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Lucax, pretty sure you might mean "metadata" and exif .
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Lucax, shotwell has flag editing as well
[10:30] <Lucax>  I just saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi95C0pnwwU and in the video he use a windows program, but I want to do the same in Ubuntu
[10:31] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, the video is misguiding to some degree
[10:32] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, alt tags are in the HTML on a site like <img src="image.png" alt="Some nice picture"/> and can easily be parsed by search engines and is used by screen readers for accessibility
[10:33] <Lucax> ok, thanks for clarifying. actually what I am doing is simply optimizing my picture titles manually and replacing the default camera title like CN001 to descriptive titles like "blue horse gone wild"
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, this is showing how to alter EXIF or photo metadata which typically isn't part of the SEO/indexing process (Google says they "reserve the right" to use this info but don't explicitly admit to it being used, whereas the actual alt="" property in HTML will be read by any search engine
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, ah okay so you're just really interested in the titles/tagging for sorting purposes
[10:34] <wafflej0ck> Lucax, you may want to try shotwell
[10:34] <wafflej0ck> oh yeah cfhowlett already suggested it too, it's good for photo organizing
[10:34] <Lucax> First and foremost I just want the pictures to have targeted and relevant titles.
[10:35] <Lucax> so then I think what I am doing is good enough (changing the titles) BUT then I read about Alt tags and got into a new world
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Lucax, take a peek at darktable as well for meta-data editing
[10:37] <Lucax> is darktable a program?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !info darktable | Lucax,
[10:38] <Lucax> thanks
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Lucax, I suggest you grab all your photo toys with: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-photography
[10:40] <Lucax> ok thanks
[10:46] <abhinav> hey...can someone give any advice on GSOC 2015?
[10:47] <k1l_> abhinav: is this ubuntu support related? or do you want to ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[10:47] <abhinav> its not ubuntu speific
[10:48] <k1l_> so this is offtopic in here. please use the offtopic channel then
[10:48] <abhinav> ok thanx :D
[10:54] <divansantana> after loading linux+uefi+grub2, I can't get into the uefi boot screen. Any ideas?
[10:56] <reggie-man> My DVD won't mount.
[10:57] <Guest2041> nick
[10:57] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, please don't cross post in channels
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> !dvd | reggie-man
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest2041,
[10:59] <reggie-man> Oh, sorry cfhowlett. It's just that I often stick to the one channel and am often told to come here and ask because there are more people. I already have these restricted extras and stuff installed. It's just not mounting.
[11:00] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, encrypted dvd??
[11:00] <reggie-man> I have to navigate to /dev/sr0 to access it, but it's not in mounted in /media or anything.
[11:00] <k1l_> !libdvdcss
[11:01] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/<something>
[11:05] <reggie-man> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639519/
[11:05] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: ^
[11:05] <k1l_> reggie-man: the error is self explaining
[11:06] <reggie-man> Well I don't understand. Is it supposed to exist?
[11:06] <k1l_> you cant mount to folders that dont exist.
[11:07] <reggie-man> So do I create a folder then, k1l_?
[11:07] <k1l_> yes
[11:07] <Sh3r1ff> !mount | reggie-man
[11:08] <cfhowlett> reggie-man, http://www.ehow.com/how_5128363_mount-dvd-linux.html
[11:08] <Zeedox> k1l_: Well, Ubuntu creates mounts for new devices automatically, so it's a bit confusing.
[11:09] <k1l_> Zeedox: that is gvfs doing it.
[11:09] <k1l_> and yes, not doing it the automatic way means doing manual work.
[11:10] <jimmyd> so is there a reason not to let the software do it
[11:10] <reggie-man> Wait a second. My problem here is that it's not automatically mounting and showing up in my file manager like it was before. I don't want to have to manually mount it each time.
[11:11] <jimmyd> can you put it in the startup menue?
[11:13] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[11:13] <Sh3r1ff> check the section automounting
[11:15] <reggie-man> It refers to a package I don't have. I don't understand, the mounting was working before. Isn't there some way to find out what happened and revert it? I don't see why I should have to install additional packages to fix this.
[11:16] <reggie-man> I guess I'll try it anyway, though. I can always remove the package.
[11:17] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: the link i provided to you doesn't say anything about installing extra packages
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> reggie-man: investigate why automounting doesnt work anymore, check your logs
[11:19] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: It told me to use a command for a package I didn't have, so I had to install it. Also, the automount options are set to true.
[11:19] <reggie-man> lotuspsychje: They would be so long. I wouldn't know where to start.
[11:20] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: dconf-editor should be installed by default
[11:20] <reggie-man> I'm on Xubuntu, so maybe that's why it wasn't.
[11:20] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: ^
[11:21] <Rory> Is it possible to prevent a graphical dialogue asking for my passphrase when I use "gpg -d" from the terminal? Can I enter my password in the terminal window? I'm reasonably sure I have used a Linux distro at some point which had this latter behaviour
[11:21] <Rory> To be clear, I still want to be prompted for a passphrase, but I want the prompt to be in the same terminal I run "gpg -d" from, and not pop up in some dialogue box
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: even on xubuntu ;)
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: check your settings for removable drives and media
[11:22] <Sh3r1ff> it is under the hardware section
[11:23] <reggie-man> Why wasn't it for me then Sh3r1ff? Yes, they are set to automount.
[11:24] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: does it happen with every disc you insert? (try different types: data, video, audio, ...)
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> reggie-man: type dmesg in terminal, see what errors there are
[11:25] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Well there is a disc I inserted before that isn't mounting anymore. I'll try a few others.
[11:28] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: pastebin the content of your /etc/fstab
[11:28] <reggie-man> lotuspsychje: There are a few lines like this "CPU1: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 621188)"
[11:29] <Zeedox> What is a recommended way to share big(ish) files across ubuntu machines? Rsync and SCP doesn't seem to work for me.
[11:29] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Do you want me to dir /etc/fstab ?
[11:29] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: cat /etc/fstab and paste that in a pastebin
[11:31] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639600/
[11:34] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: I've just tried to more discs that I haven't tried before and they didn't mount.
[11:36] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: add a line "/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 ro 0 0" and make sure /media/cdrom exists (mkdir /media/cdrom)
[11:37] <Renard> Hello,
[11:38] <InFierno> Hi guys, anyone here has experience with UE3 on Linux?
[11:39] <Renard> I used a USB key to install Ubuntu on my dekstop back in the days. I completely wiped it (3-pass wipe) and despite it being empty, my Arch/ARM (rpi) machine still thinks it's an install disk and lists some sort of squashfs. What did I miss here?
[11:40] <InFierno> Renard, Dunno if this will work but try formatting it with a windows PC if you have one (or macosx)
[11:40] <Renard> did that, didn't change anything
[11:41] <reggie-man> Are you sure you don't mean /media/<username>/cdrom Sh3r1ff? and am I adding that line to /etc/fstab ?
[11:41] <Renard> also the firmware seems to be set as "mkfs.fat" as the OEM string
[11:43] <InFierno> Renard, Odd; I usually do a quick NTFS format then back to fat32 and never have issues
[11:43] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: you can specify any directory you want, as long as it is an existing one
[11:43] <Renard> this behavior is consistant with another older key I have
[11:44] <Renard> something's definitely off
[11:44] <reggie-man> Do I add the line to /etc/fstab Sh3r1ff?
[11:45] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: yes
[11:45] <InFierno> Renard, Maybe its an arch linux caching issue?
[11:46] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: And then after that just try a disc again?
[11:47] <reggie-man> Because that didn't work.
[11:47] <mynameisdeleted> are 4k computer optimization tutorials welcome on ubuntu website?
[11:47] <mynameisdeleted> instructions for which graphics cards and hardware work wel at 4k.. how to disable compositing window managers, list of driver resources etc
[11:48] <InFierno> I would certainly like it
[11:48] <mynameisdeleted> also likely which tv/graphics card combos support 4k@60hz vs 4k@30hz
[11:49] <mynameisdeleted> probably want a dual screen section which is a list of graphics cards adn gpu-ports that support multiple screens at 4k
[11:49] <Renard> InFierno, tried with another disk which hasn't been exposed to a Linux install and it works fine
[11:49] <kostkon> mynameisdeleted, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143602
[11:49] <Renard> also found another one which says it's a Mac OSX install key on my rasbpi, and is blank on my desktop computer
[11:50] <InFierno> Hmm
[11:50] <InFierno> I honestly have no idea
[11:50] <Renard> so this isn't just Ubuntu
[11:50] <InFierno> Got it
[11:50] <InFierno> is it one of those keys with a lock feature?
[11:50] <Renard> something related to a boot sector? some TOC?
[11:50] <Renard> no
[11:53] <Renard> formatted in Gparted, the key immediately gets a default label (when none is manually set): "Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS amd64"
[11:54] <Sh3r1ff> reggie-man: restart or do mount -a
[11:54] <Renard> What's annoying about that is, I can no longer use these keys on my Raspberry Pi
[11:54] <reggie-man> Sh3r1ff: Okay, but that will be in a few hours. I'm ripping a DVD at the moment.
[11:59] <Renard> http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/52129-disk-clean-clean-all-diskpart-command.html hm, maybe?
[12:01] <InFierno> Renard, Possibly failing usb drive?
[12:01] <Renard> no
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Renard, awefully quick "no" ... they DO go bad.
[12:01] <Renard> It's anew stick PLUS it happens on many keys
[12:02] <Renard> check yours, you probably still have a boot sector set
[12:02] <InFierno> What you could try Is on windows download the windows iso maker and put an ISO on it (it basically runs the diskpart commands for you)
[12:02] <InFierno> Diskpart, List disk, select disk #, clean, format fs=ntfs quick etc
[12:03] <Renard> I'll just try rebooting into my kinda useless Windows partition
[12:03] <Renard> brb
[12:07] <Frenks_4> Hello
[12:07] <Frenks_4> Can anyone help with adding a seccond hard drive in Ubuntu?
[12:17] <buckstabu> hi, guys. How can i report a bug in gcc 4.6 in precise/i386 ?
[12:18] <trijntje> ubuntu-bug gcc
[12:18] <trijntje> put that in a terminal and it will collect all required information for you
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !bug | buckstabu,
[12:20] <buckstabu> Hmm. I don't have ubuntu-bug in my chroot. Which package contains it?
[12:21] <cfhowlett> buckstabu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9639830/