[03:30] <nozorro> ocelot_: the 'build' subdirectory seems out of place, i.e. somehow the installation got it wrong. you did install from source, didn't you
[03:30] <dr_willis> tell the bot. :P
[03:30] <Larynx> Warbo: do i have to dl it?
[03:30] <Zambezi> I get errormessages extracting tar.gz. Which is the right command? (The on Easyubuntu doen't work).
[03:30] <tech13> philipsmith, just had the same thing start yesterday, thought it was that I was playing ogg files rather then mp3 streams,  check setting and make sure an engine is set.
[03:30] <smwon> I have a question...  what is the superuser?
[03:30] <anon32> when I tried installing cygwin... I remember GCC being over 30M...
[03:30] <Warbo> Larynx: It is in UBinverse, and therefore not in a default Ubuntu installation
[03:30] <dr_willis> smwon,  another name for 'root' i guess.
[03:30] <ocelot_> nozorro: yes I did
[03:30] <eyequeue> smwon, root
[03:30] <Warbo> !root > smwon
[03:30] <eyequeue> !root > smwon
[03:30] <Larynx> Warbo: tho i use Kubuntu
[03:30] <nozorro> ocelot_: which was the installation directory you specified?
[03:30] <Larynx> but i dunno
[03:30] <eyequeue> lol Warbo
[03:30] <Larynx> :/
[03:31] <anon32> hmm.... is ubuntu based on debian?
[03:31] <Warbo> Larynx: Ed/K/X/Ubuntu all use the "main" repository, so none come with any Universe packages
[03:31] <philipsmith> tech13: Thanks for your reply, homeboy. What does "check setting and make sure an engine is set."   Discussed in detail at the ubuntu homepage.
[03:31] <nozorro> anon32: could we please have less noise on this channel. it's scrolling fast enough as is
[03:31] <Warbo> Larynx: What driver are you after?
[03:32] <dr_willis> nozorro,  i wonder if this is how i learned to read so fast.
[03:32] <tech13> philipsmith, amoroK -> settings -> configure amorok -> engine
[03:32] <smwon> Well I need to self install dpkg because I lost power but now it says superuser has top do it
[03:32] <Larynx> Warbo: uhm.. i dunno really.. im trying to install some drivers to my dial-up modem, and im just following the instructions on the supportpage ^^
[03:32] <smwon> toi
[03:32] <haasteem> i am having trouble mounting my floppy drive... when i do 'mount' it says it is already mounted or busy, and when i do 'umount' it says that it is not mounted... does anyone know what might be the problem?
[03:33] <eyequeue> smwon, you lost dpkg?! and recovered manually?  congrats, you're a guru :)
[03:33] <alex222> hey i have two HD iconson my deskop, i cant access them though!
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: What modem do you have
[03:33] <smwon> no I didn't recover it
[03:33] <anon32> um, question, what's root's default password?
[03:33] <DBO> !root
[03:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:33] <smwon> says I need tio use superuser
[03:33] <raptros-v76> !sudo
[03:33] <alex222> how can i give myself permissions to see the TWO Hardrives i have mounted??
[03:33] <anon32> that's nice, I want to log in *as* root
[03:33] <Warbo> Larynx: OK. Personally I have experience with Softlink and Sagem modems, if it is one of them
[03:33] <ramon> !past
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <Zambezi> Extracting tar.gz file? Can't find the command.
[03:33] <ramon> !paste
[03:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:33] <eyequeue> smwon, booting to recovery mode means you run as root there btw .... we don't typically do that in ubuntu, we use sudo
[03:34] <BigToe> Sound doesn't work in Flash Player on Firefox, how can I make it work?
[03:34] <Warbo> alex222: Wrong way around. How do you set the drives to be writable by you? (usually add the option "-o uid=your-username" to the mount line)
[03:34] <eyequeue> anon32, please read the url the bot gave you, we won't tell you how to subvert security, but you can read it yourself
[03:34] <anon32> :-\ how do I unlock root?
[03:35] <Warbo> "tar -xf filename.tar.gz" will extract tar, tar,gz and tar,bz2
[03:35] <eyequeue> anon32, see what i just said please
[03:35] <BHSPitMonkey> BigToe, try http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:35] <Xenguy> !root > anon32
[03:35] <anon32> eyequeue: I read it
[03:35] <BigToe> thanks BHSPitLappy
[03:35] <anon32> I still want to know how to log in as root
[03:35] <eyequeue> anon32, thank you (we're picky about that in here)
[03:35] <nozorro> anon32: and it's not locked if you've never set it up (and locked it after that)
[03:35] <BHSPitMonkey> eyequeue, obviously you didn't
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> anon32: It can be done but we dont offer that advice
[03:35] <eyequeue> anon32, the url tells you, as i said
[03:36] <alex222> Warbo they're already moiunted
[03:36] <anon32> ...
[03:36] <Xenguy> hello?
[03:36] <raptros-v76> if we tell you, the CIA will kill us
[03:36] <BHSPitMonkey> anon32, is "sudo -i" not good enough for you?
[03:36] <eyequeue> BHSPitMonkey, didn't what?
[03:36] <cheesy1> anon32, sudo su -
[03:36] <Warbo> alex222: Then add another option, "-o remount" :)
[03:36] <BHSPitMonkey> eyequeue, sorry, I meant anon32
[03:36] <anon32> bhspitmoneky: I'd like to know... just in case I ever have to
[03:36] <Larynx> Warbo: uhm.. i dunno really.. ^^ dont think i quite understand what scanmodem tells me
[03:36] <anon32> cheesy1: thank you... if that works
[03:36] <eyequeue> BHSPitMonkey, heh, agreed btw
[03:36] <BHSPitMonkey> anon32, please read the page you were given, you did NOT read it.
[03:37] <anon32> um.... yes I did
[03:37] <BHSPitMonkey> or, if there was some part of it you had trouble understanding, say so.
[03:37] <BHSPitMonkey> !root > BHSPitMonkey
[03:37] <anon32> found it :-)
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: What modem do you have.. or did I miss your post about it
[03:37] <anon32> err, does root start with a default password?
[03:37] <drew32> anyone know anything about ssh tunneling?
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> read further
[03:37] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: i dont know. some kind of softmodem
[03:37] <drew32> that could help me out with a problem
[03:37] <Hexidigital_> drew32::  kinda
[03:38] <philipsmith> tech13: Ok. I've got Amarok open. Where is settings?
[03:38] <drew32> hex: can i pm you?
[03:38] <Hexidigital_> drew32::  sure
[03:38] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: alltho kubuntu cant find it
[03:38] <BHSPitMonkey> anon32, no.
[03:38] <eyequeue> anon32, no, but that page ... sigh ... what you do after reading is up to you, okay?
[03:38] <Zambezi> Warbo, tar -xf conky-1.4.2.tar.gz -> tar: This does not look like a tar archive // tar: Skipping to next header // tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers // tar: Read 3474 bytes from conky-1.4.2.tar.gz // tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:38] <stiv2k> is there any way i can convert from .daa to .ISO format?
[03:38] <anon32> ok...
[03:38] <smwon> thanks
[03:39] <Warbo> Zambezi: That's weird. Try "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz" which tells tar to use gzip explicitly, but it normally works that out by itself
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx:  WInmodems are not well supported, there are drivers available for a fee, but they are almost as much as a real modem
[03:39] <Hexidigital_> drew32::  just /j #hexidigital
[03:39] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I only know of Connexant who charge for drivers
[03:39] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> Where is edgy eft knot 2? Today is Aug. 31!
[03:40] <mortal5> what is a good value for swappiness, for, say a machine with 265mb of ram?
[03:40] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, #ubuntu+1 may know, but i'd wait until business hours uk time, heh
[03:40] <matthewf> whats the command for the nvidia xgl control panel again ?
[03:40] <Warbo> mortal5: I would say 512MB
[03:40] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: i thought i was compiling drivers for my modem o.O
[03:40] <Larynx> omg
[03:40] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, and thanks, i'll want that when it's out, heheheh
[03:40] <iLikeSpoons> aaaand that was my radeon at work
[03:40] <DrBanzai> Anybody here able to help me out with ISPConfig?
[03:41] <eyequeue> matthewf, #ubuntu-xgl would know
[03:41] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: lol didnt think about different time zones!@
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: You are still better off spending $25 and getting a hardware modem
[03:41] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: thats ugly..
[03:41] <Larynx> ^^
[03:41] <Zambezi> Warbo, tar -xzf conky-1.4.2.tar.gz -> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format // tar: Child returned status 1 // tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:41] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, that's unofficial, i've just found it seems to be when it happens, myself i like midnight utc, lol
[03:42] <Warbo> Zambezi: That makes a little more sense, because it seems your file is corrupt
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Ugly is a phone jack pretending to be a modem
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Sucking up cpu cycles to modulate the signal
[03:42] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: lol well, is there any offical relese date?
[03:42] <Warbo> Zambezi: 1) Try "file filename.tar.gz" and see what it finds, and if it says gzip then try "gunzip filename.tar.gz"
[03:43] <Hexidigital_> drew32::  still there?
[03:43] <eyequeue> Larynx, back in the old says of bbs's, there's a reason sysops always preferred external modems ... real hardware works best
[03:43] <Zambezi> Warbo, You probably understand why I'm frustrated. The commands are strange and then my f-ing file is broke. :-P
[03:43] <Jamminpotato> if i want to set upa basic file server/bittorrenting box that would only be accessed via ssh from my main computer, what would be the best ubuntu setup for that? maybe ubuntu server+xfce or fluxbox?
[03:43] <stiv2k> is there any way i can convert from .daa to .ISO format?
[03:43] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, was aug 31 given?  i haven't tracked it lately, let me see if the bot has a link to a schedule
[03:43] <eyequeue> !edgy
[03:43] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[03:43] <caglar_> can I convert to dapper when etchy should fail?
[03:43] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: :> but aint there alot of shit that has to be done fer a hardware?
[03:43] <paradizelost> Jamminpotato: if you are only accessing via ssh, no X is required
[03:43] <eyequeue> !schedule
[03:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:43] <Zambezi> Warbo, *haha* It thinks it's a HTML-documnet.
[03:43] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: i meen fer it to work
[03:44] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: common wisdom is not to use any graphical interface on a secure server at all
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: No.. not at all...
[03:44] <Flannel> caglar_: what?
[03:44] <Larynx> eyequeue: bbs?
[03:44] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, oh ok, i've never done the whole ssh thing before how exactly would it work?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: You plug a hardware odem into a com port of almost any linux system and it will work just fine
[03:44] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: here is the url for the schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[03:44] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, bingo!  today!
[03:45] <Jamminpotato> so jut ubuntu server then and ssh to it?
[03:45] <eyequeue> Larynx, bulletin board system ... think "pre-internet" (though that is inaccurate)
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Plus it will not eat up your cpu to simulate a modem
[03:45] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: read up on it on the web, it's really not trivial
[03:45] <nozorro> !ssh
[03:45] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:45] <Jamminpotato> and then my current ocmputer will handle the windowing managing?
[03:45] <phargle> you should build your own modem using a sound card and umm.. some wires, and stuff
[03:45] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: sweet.. i actually bought one before when i had ubuntu.. but the port-thingy didnt match :<
[03:45] <Larynx> eyequeue: and what is that in swedish? ^^
[03:45] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: lol I live in US central time zone, Do you know what he uk time zone is?
[03:45] <matthewf> how can i tell for sure what video mode x is working in ? .. (the display settings in gnome may be lieing to me)
[03:45] <Docmur> I have a 32 bit chroot env set up on dapper 64 bit and I want to know how to link the 32 bit programs so I run them from the menu in gnome
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Was it 9 pin d shell or ?
[03:46] <Warbo> Larynx: ANY modem which uses a serial port will work, just give the dialer the device as "/dev/ttyS0"
[03:46] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: not sure what you mean, if your server has graphical interface installed, yes you can remotely use them from the local box
[03:46] <PiTT> what packages do i need to install to get KDE programs to work in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Cerebellum> hey I was wondering if anyone could help me out with some php stuff
[03:46] <Cerebellum> just a simple question really
[03:46] <Docmur> the KDE libs and such will be installed as dep
[03:46] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: but you're better off not using any gr. interface on a public server
[03:46] <Cerebellum> or refer me to a good php channel
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> PiTT: Use synaptic and have it get whatever you want, I use K3B and Konversation in Gnome/Ubuntu
[03:46] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: a big blob at the end of the bable.. like a scart ^^
[03:47] <Warbo> PiTT: Usually just install the program and anything it needs will get installed too. If you want a full-blown KDE system then the "kubuntu-desktop" will install LOADS of stuff for you
[03:47] <Larynx> cable*
[03:47] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: .. because of security
[03:47] <eyequeue> XxXBrAnDoNXxX, i think it's about 5 hours from you
[03:47] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, so if i use ssh to remotely login to it, then would i have to do everything by the command line?
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Big blob at the end?  What shape of blob?
[03:47] <boricua> Cerebellum:ask thye darn q?
[03:47] <Docmur> I have a 32 bit chroot env set up on dapper 64 bit and I want to know how to link the 32 bit programs so I run them from the menu in gnome
[03:47] <matthewf> anyone know why the res i want isnt showing up in display settings ?
[03:47] <AustLaw> is there any way to scroll up in a shell?
[03:47] <boricua> audreyt, page up
[03:48] <Warbo> AustLaw: Usually Shift-PgUp
[03:48] <boricua> audreyt: i use mousr wheel
[03:48] <eyequeue> AustLaw, shift-pgup, sometimes
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: Did you install the correct drivers for your video card.. and what type of video card..
[03:48] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: haha.. shiet.. nevermind.. it was big and.. early 90ies
[03:48] <PiTT> Jack_Sparrow: the reason why i ask is i installed konversation, which is what im using now, but for some odd reason the server connect window has all messed up grahpics
[03:48] <jimbo> !resolution
[03:48] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:48] <PiTT> and i cant close it
[03:48] <PiTT> dunno why
[03:48] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: Thanx, but still lol, I want it now!
[03:48] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: yes you can remotely administer the server from command line (or using other interfaces). Linux is ideal for such things -- but like i said it's not trivial and you need to learn stuff
[03:48] <haasteem> i am having trouble mounting my floppy drive... when i do 'mount' it says it is already mounted or busy, and when i do 'umount' it says that it is not mounted... does anyone know what might be the problem?
[03:48] <boricua> AustLaw:mouse wheel
[03:49] <fiXXXerMet> Hi.  Just installed a fresh ubuntu-server, updated the kernel, and I'm trying to do a find, but I get "locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory"  Any ideas?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: It should still work with a 9 pin adapter..
[03:49] <leed> When I run a install.sh, it said "checking for X... no","error:X development libraries not found"
[03:49] <leed> Which library should to be installed?
[03:49] <AustLaw> none of those worked :/
[03:49] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: oh i belive so.. but i didnt have any adapter :<
[03:49] <boricua> fiXXXerMet, run updatedb
[03:49] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, it will be on the same intranet as my main box and behidn a firewall and really only for my use and not visible to the outside, ....so would having a graphical interface be bad
[03:49] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow:  i have correct drivers installed, and they are working.. also have the only correct res for my lcd screen as the sole res in xorg.conf but the gnome display settings thing still says 1024x768
[03:50] <JoseStefan> I think my ubuntu is not using a framebuffer for CLI, How could I confirm? -if that is the case, should I try to enable it?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Dig it out.. even a 10 year old hardware modem works better than a winmodem in Linux
[03:50] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> eyequeue: LMAO!
[03:50] <mortal5> I want to do some development in C, I'd like to install the compiler and tools used to build the kernel, which if i understand correctly, are different than those used to build the rest of ubuntu
[03:50] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: yes i belive you..
[03:50] <fiXXXerMet> Thank you, boricua.
[03:50] <smwon> What does "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege" mean?
[03:51] <cafuego> JoseStefan: Does it show the progress bar when it boots up?
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf:  drop to terminal and type glxgears -printfps
[03:51] <JoseStefan> cafuego, yes
[03:51] <Ash-Fox> smwon, means you need to put 'sudo' before your command
[03:51] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow:  there a command to see exactly what display res that x is running in ?
[03:51] <cafuego> JoseStefan: It uses a framebuffer then.
[03:51] <smwon> thank you
[03:51] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: in that case, if the firewall is tight enough, gr interface will be ok. but if your server, even being behind the firewall, is for public use, things are different. it depends a lot on concrete conditions
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: And did you mention what video card you are working with
[03:51] <AustLaw> is there a way to remove the minimize/maximize animation in gnome?
[03:52] <minerale> I have gnome and fluxbox, and I switch between them from time to time, the menus between them do not match, I can't figure out why, Ie I have some entries that are in both but some entries that only show in gnome, where is the menu stored ?
[03:52] <JoseStefan> cafuego, but when going to CLI it uses (80x25)
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, it wont be for pulbic use, well not this year, next year when im at college it will be...but that will be a next summer proejct
[03:52] <Jamminpotato> right now its just for my use
[03:52] <de_wizze> what are the future planet for the multimedia platforms in Unbuntu, along the lines of "What are the prospectives for things lick NMM and PolyAudio or the like ( Im not sure how Gstreamer relates to PA)
[03:52] <cafuego> JoseStefan: So you have an 80x25 framebuffer.
[03:52] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: tho i think i gave the modem to my brother.. :/
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: apex makes a good hardware modem for under $30
[03:53] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: nvidia
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Dont beat yourself silly fighting a winmodem
[03:53] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: ok in that case just install normal ubuntu (with desktop) or xubuntu on the server, plus the bittorrent server software. i can't tell you anything about the latter, though. In any case make sure the firewall is tight enough.
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: What do you get in glx gears and Model number of the nvidia
[03:53] <Warbo> minerale: Fluxbox uses the "Debian menu" system. Look in Application>Debian in GNOME if it is there. If not then "sudo apt-get install menu" will get it
[03:54] <Ash-Fox> Larynx, the winmodems overlord will never comply.
[03:54] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, isn't there a special server ubuntu version?
[03:54] <drew32> anyone have any exprience with ssh tunneling?
[03:54] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: res i am after is 1280x1024 . its a 6200, and around 600fps or so
[03:54] <JoseStefan> cafuego, is the only way to change that editing menu.lst or is there another way?
[03:54] <mortal5> does anyone program C in here?
[03:54] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: the one i found was a good one.. cant remember what its called.. hmm.. belive it was two words.. hmm
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Cannon Winprinters are also a problem
[03:54] <dr_willis> i will never buy canon again in the future...
[03:54] <Exclamation> i need help getting my broadcom wireless working...tried the method on the fourms but it didnt work...
[03:54] <dr_willis> unless they do some major changes.
[03:55] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: yes but as it is common with Linux to do without graph. interface for servers, it is not included (i think) in ubuntu's server setup
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: Any hardware odem that plugs into a com port will be fine
[03:55] <cafuego> JoseStefan: There is supposedly a cli tool, but I don't remember its name and when I used it back in 2001 it didn't work well at all ;-)
[03:55] <smwon> Ok what does mean "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0011' near line 1:
[03:55] <smwon>  newline in field name `#padding' " mean?
[03:55] <foo> Would anyone happen to know if I can get UltraVNC to work on ubuntu ? I want to set up a listen only server. hmm
[03:56] <Killerkiwi> Anybody, when is vtiger 5 scheculed to be released?
[03:56] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: beat myself silly ^^ i think its fun.. learn alot of shit. kick ass
[03:56] <Larynx> ^^
[03:56] <Warbo> I used to use a large-style serial modem in Linux fine, by pulling apart an old 486 to create a new wire to plug it into the smaller serial ports that are the norm these days
[03:56] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: to be frank, ubuntu server is just some kind of stripped down ubuntu if you ask me ... because there are better Linux distros for servers ... anyway it will help you to have the same distro on both server and desktop
[03:56] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow:  i just want to know if X is running in the right res, as i dont trust the Display control pannel thing
[03:57] <Jamminpotato> nozorro, thanks
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: There are many others things to learn that will be of more use to you in the future than tuning a winmodem
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: What do you get in glx gears
[03:57] <nozorro> Jamminpotato: there's a ton of documentation on the net about Linux servers, just grab it and read, read, read
[03:57] <cafuego> nozorro: Ubuntu server actually installs a different kernel (Though I haven't check in what way it stands out from the desktop kernels)
[03:57] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: well maybe ur right after all.. who needs a dial-up modem in the bright future anyways.. :/ exept me who live out in the woods
[03:57] <haasteem> i am having trouble mounting my floppy drive... when i do 'mount' it says it is already mounted or busy, and when i do 'umount' it says that it is not mounted... does anyone know what might be the problem?
[03:57] <Larynx> :<
[03:57] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow:  around 600fps
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf:  What modem video card.. my Nivida 6600 gets 5000+
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> model
[03:58] <matthewf> 6200
[03:58] <JoseStefan> cafuego, is the "vga" option a grub feature or a kernel feature, and where could I find official docs for that?
[03:58] <nozorro> cafuego: yeah, i still have to look into the server edition a bit more, but frankly i think Canonical is not doing itself a favour here ... they should focus on the desktop for now
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf:  How did you install the drivers for it?
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: go fo it, you will not be disappointed
[03:59] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> !nivida
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nivida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <Exclamation> anyone with any experiance with broadcomm wireless stuff?
[03:59] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: install em exactly how they are ment to be installed.. to the letter
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: Using what as a tutorial?
[04:00] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> !nvidia
[04:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:00] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: the link XxXBrAnDoNXxX just posted
[04:00] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> yup ypu
[04:00] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> thats the one
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: You really seem to avoid answering a direct question... please show me the link so I dont have to go hunting for it
[04:02] <Larynx> mjew mjew.. ^^
[04:02] <Larynx> <3
[04:02] <nozorro> ok bye bye everyone till next time, this has been a fun session
[04:02] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: Would you mind posting your xorg.conf to the pastebin please
[04:04] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: i dont have irc on the ubuntu box, and it just spazzed out becuse i think the wireless mouse is low on power hang on
[04:04] <Larynx> maybe i should go to bed.
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight
[04:04] <Larynx> ^^
[04:05] <Larynx> <3
[04:05] <Larynx> Jack_Sparrow: thank you fer showing interest
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Larynx: np
[04:06] <Larynx> :>
[04:06] <Larynx> kisses to you all
[04:06] <Larynx> <3
[04:06] <Larynx> nite
[04:07] <MagicFab> is there an application to manage video collections in ubuntu (like Rhythm box for audio or Digikam / F-spot for pics) ?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> MagicFab: I use digikam in Ubuntu
[04:07] <Grok_> is there a way to view a SSL enabled page (https) with mozilla browser without having to download and recompile it with the crypto switch? i'm finding it hard to believe that i've found something this basic that doesn't "work out of the box" like so many other things that are bundled with ubuntu.
[04:08] <drew32> looking for help with ssh tunneling can anyone help me?
[04:08] <sirrush> Hello Everyone
[04:08] <MagicFab> Jack_Sparrow, digikam doesn't handle videos, does it ?
[04:08] <MagicFab> !ssh
[04:08] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:08] <jrib> Grok_: I believe you can just install mozilla-psm from universe
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> MagicFab: I should have read more carefully...
[04:08] <MagicFab> !tunnel
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tunnel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <jdmpike> trying to mount a samba file share on my xubuntu server... I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba to the letter
[04:09] <Grok_> jrib you rock. i new my addled brain was stumbling around needlessly. much appreciated
[04:09] <jrib> Grok_: np
[04:09] <paradizelost> jdmpike: what is your issue?
[04:09] <Wicked_> Hello, what is the latest version of gconf-editor?
[04:09] <jrib> !info gconf-editor
[04:09] <ubotu> gconf-editor: An editor for the GConf configuration system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.0-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 1736 kB
[04:09] <Wicked_> aw
[04:09] <paradizelost> jdmpike: you can't get it to mount? you are getting an error? what?
[04:10] <jdmpike> paradizelost, when I try to mount it, I get 9732: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[04:10] <Wicked_> thanks
[04:10] <paradizelost> jdmpike: did you try a -o user=username,pass=password?
[04:11] <paradizelost> jdmpike: an access denied means that you aren't authenticated correctly, or you have the security setup incorrectly
[04:11] <matthewjames> hey guys, HUGE PROBLEM, ubuntu freezes when try to logout, shut down, etc when button is clicked
[04:11] <jdmpike> I created a /etc/samba/user file and put "credentials=/etc/samba/user" in my fstab
[04:12] <paradizelost> jdmpike: please paste the line from the fstab
[04:12] <jdmpike> /luckyseven/garage1 /media/luckyseven smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=jordan 0 0
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewjames: What changes did you make during this last session when the problem started
[04:12] <paradizelost> jdmpike: first thing, you need // instead of / for the initial slash
[04:12] <jdmpike> there are two // before the servername
[04:12] <jdmpike> it pasted wrong in xchat
[04:13] <matthewjames> the problem has been occuring since the update to lts
[04:13] <paradizelost> k
[04:13] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: gonna get the pastbin now
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:13] <paradizelost> jdmpike: have you done a sudo apt-get install smbfs?
[04:13] <jdmpike> yes
[04:13] <gentoo> hi
[04:13] <matthewjames> Jack Sparrow: the problem has been occuring since the update to lts
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: I will look but I am running out of time...
[04:14] <unikon> anyone ever get update errors  while trying to upgrade or using synaptic to select a package
[04:14] <gentoo> is this gentoo support channel_
[04:14] <gentoo> $
[04:14] <paradizelost> jdmpike: can you use nautilus and browse to smb:///luckyseven/garage1
[04:14] <paradizelost> ?
[04:14] <gentoo> is this gentoo support channel_
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> [19:13]  <matthewjames> Jack Sparrow: the problem has been occuring since the update to lts... makes no sense to me
[04:14] <gentoo> $
[04:14] <gentoo> help
[04:14] <gentoo> i am new to gentoo
[04:14] <gentoo> can you help me
[04:14] <unikon> this is ubuntu support
[04:15] <unikon>  gentto
[04:15] <jdmpike> I am running xubuntu
[04:15] <cliffd> you are in the wrong channel
[04:15] <matthewjames> this has been happening since i upgraded ubuntu to newset verson
[04:15] <sethk> gentoo, I can help you install a different distro  :)
[04:15] <jdmpike> so I don't have a file browser with native smb support
[04:15] <cliffd> one that doesnt take 3 days to build ;)
[04:15] <matthewjames> Jack Sparrow: since 6.06
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewjames: SO you went from an earlier version to dapper...
[04:15] <sethk> cliffd, right, and runs faster too
[04:15] <matthewjames> no, to lts
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> L T S
[04:16] <matthewjames> yes
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok...
[04:16] <matthewjames> ever since that update, freezes on shutdown
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewjames: I am already working on my last problem of the day.... SOmeone else may be able to help
[04:17] <matthewjames> k
[04:17] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: pastebin.com/781071
[04:17] <paradizelost> jdmpike: you get my pm?
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[04:17] <matthewjames> can anyone tell me how to get L T S 6.06 to shutdown, it freezes
[04:17] <jdmpike> paradizelost, yes I did
[04:17] <jdmpike> paradizelost, I was in the channel
[04:17] <paradizelost> matthewjames: open an xterm and type sudo halt
[04:18] <sethk> matthewjames, when it freezes, can you ssh into it from your network?  (assuming you have a network, of course)
[04:18] <matthewjames> ok
[04:18] <irawan> matthewjames: well, that would be pressing the reset button
[04:18] <matthewjames> xterm, just terminal?
[04:18] <Exclamation> i need help getting my wireless net working...
[04:18] <sethk> matthewjames, the correct way to shut down from the command line is    shutdown -h now
[04:18] <matthewjames> ok, ty guys
[04:18] <sethk> matthewjames, yes, from any terminal.
[04:18] <irawan> matthewjames: or on/off button
[04:18] <zodo> Hi all. I'm running Dapper Server on an old P2 laptop with 384megs of ram. It is acting as my router. Whenever a machine behind it runs bittorrent, within a few hours the laptop locks, hard.  I've found a few Swapper: Page Allocation Errors in the log, and I suspect that there are just to many connections for the thing to handle. /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max is at 24568.  Any suggestions?  Is there a way to get it to throw away old/
[04:18] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow:  so that xorg look ok to you ?
[04:19] <BlueEagle> matthewjames: How and when does it freeze?
[04:19] <leed>  Jack_Sparrow: When I run a install.sh, it said "checking for X... no","error:X development libraries not found", Which library should to be installed?
[04:19] <matthewjames> freezes when i click shutdown button, stays at black screen
[04:19] <jdmpike> unikon, I don't think I can pm because my nick is not identified
[04:19] <sethk> zodo, you can adjust how long a connection must be idle until it is discarded, if that's what you are asking
[04:19] <sethk> zodo, but running out of connections is pretty unlikely.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: I dont see any subsections for display
[04:20] <sethk> matthewjames, can you ssh into the box from the network at that point?
[04:20] <matthewjames> no
[04:20] <zodo> sethk: Any ideas then?
[04:20] <unikon> jdmpike i think ive seen you in #kc-lug
[04:20] <BlueEagle> matthewjames: So no splash screen at all?
[04:20] <matthewjames> nope
[04:20] <zodo> It's driving me nuts.  :)
[04:20] <matthewjames> just black
[04:20] <unikon>  why dont u register it then jdmpike
[04:20] <paradizelost> matthewjames: try CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:20] <hoehaver> im trying to install gaim v v and when I configure one of the packages I get this error message
[04:20] <hoehaver> In file included from gstj2k.c:27:
[04:20] <hoehaver> gstj2kdec.h:26:21: error: gst/gst.h: No such file or directory
[04:20] <matthewjames> right now?
[04:21] <hoehaver> what file do I need? where is it at or how do I get it?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> zodo: How big a swap partition you got?
[04:21] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: well seeing as i only need the one resolution(my LCDs native res) its pointless haveing all the others
[04:21] <paradizelost> matthewjames: when it locks
[04:21] <matthewjames> ok
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[04:21] <sethk> zodo, sounds more like it is running out of memory.  You might want to add additional swap space.  Or, set memory quotas for a process
[04:21] <cliffd> can someone help me with this
[04:21] <cliffd> http://pastebin.ca/156862
[04:21] <matthewjames> ima try to shut down from comman, and try that if it happens, wish me luck :P
[04:21] <sethk> zodo, adding swap is easy and simple and the logical thing to try, I think
[04:21] <BlueEagle> sethk: my thoughts exactly. :)
[04:21] <paradizelost> k
[04:22] <cliffd> trying to use autogen.sh --prefix=/usr for superswitcher http://pastebin.ca/156862 but it says missing .m4's? never heard of those.
[04:22] <zodo> That's possible.  It's a small hard drive...ubuntu has all of 4 gigs, and if I recall correctly, it's all of a few hundred megs swap.
[04:22] <paradizelost> jdmpike: are you getting my pm's?
[04:22] <sethk> cliffd, is the m4 package installed?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> sethk: Would a borked swap partition give the same error tho?
[04:22] <sethk> BlueEagle, possibly, yes
[04:22] <cliffd> sethk: yes.
[04:22] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: is there a way from the shell to show current xorg video mode ?
[04:22] <unikon> paradizelost his nics not registered
[04:22] <aSt3raL> hello.  what is a good html editor with php support?
[04:22] <cliffd> aSt3raL: vim ;)
[04:23] <sethk> cliffd, what are you building?
[04:23] <aSt3raL> any wysiwyg ones?
[04:23] <cliffd> sethk: super switcher
[04:23] <paradizelost> nutz
[04:23] <zodo> So, path of action is this: Check swap for grevious errors, then allocate more space to swap.
[04:23] <BlueEagle> ast3ral: wysiwyg != good editor :)
[04:23] <paradizelost> jdmpike: Ok, if you type      mount.cifs //servername/share /media/mountpoint -o credentials=/etc/samba/user
[04:23] <paradizelost> what do you get
[04:23] <aSt3raL> i hate vim too
[04:23] <zodo> I'm just surprised that running out of memory would lock the machine.
[04:23] <aSt3raL> its crap
[04:23] <sethk> cliffd, not familiar with it.  do other things build from source normally?
[04:23] <diseaser> vim rules
[04:23] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> PHPNUKE IS BETTER lol.
[04:24] <paradizelost> zodo: the machine requires memory to function
[04:24] <BlueEagle> ast3ral: For web devel I prefer quanta. I hear bluefish is also very good.
[04:24] <TLE_02> whats the convention optione when writing shell scripts? Do I define a default value or just determine if it has been set to non-null or not ?
[04:24] <sethk> zodo, it's not a high reliability o/s, and it's evolved, not designed, so you shouldn't be surprised about that at all
[04:24] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: becuse im pretty sure its not setting the res, dispite that being the only res it can select according to the config, but i need to now for sure
[04:24] <zodo> Hah, I suppose so.
[04:24] <zodo> Alright.
[04:24] <cliffd> sethk: I tried building expocity, which is a patch for metacity and that says I dont have the right .pc files. but other then that I havent tried to build anything.
[04:24] <TLE_02> convention optione=convention for options
[04:24] <sethk> cliffd, let me see if those names map to a package
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: Your glxgears result tells me something is not right...
[04:25] <zodo> Thanks, folks.
[04:25] <cliffd> sethk: thanks much. how does one do that?
[04:25] <aSt3raL> ok another question: im having trouble mounting and viewing with nfs. specificlly i want to make /var/www/ shared on the network but its not working
[04:25] <kitche> matthewf there is no real way to get res in the console, but you should be able to do it in X
[04:25] <aSt3raL> i think there may be an issue with user syncing?
[04:25] <aSt3raL> any ideas?
[04:25] <sethk> cliffd, see if package   pkg-config     is installed
[04:25] <paradizelost> matthewf: are you trying to get Xgl working?
[04:25] <paradizelost> or just having issues w/ X
[04:25] <cliffd> sethk: yes.
[04:25] <sethk> aSt3raL, you added the directory to /etc/exports, and ran exportfs?
[04:26] <aSt3raL> yes and then i try an mount and it wont mount
[04:26] <sethk> aSt3raL, you started NFS server on the exporting machine?
[04:26] <mutk> aSt3raL, What OS is the NFS client that is mounting the NFS export?
[04:26] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: you installed portmap?
[04:26] <matthewf> Jack_Sparrow: well if something is not right, i have no idea what it could be, the xorg.conf i assume is set up right.. and everything is detected in the nvidia-settings thing
[04:26] <sethk> cliffd, package gnome-common, glade-gnome, and/or glade-gnome-2?
[04:26] <cdubya> why am I continuously getting a message from the update-manager now that I have 158 updates? I added a new version of wine from the winehq repo, but then removed it as a repo and I still am getting the notification. It's really a nuisance more than anything. Any ideas?
[04:27] <paradizelost> cdubya: did you do an apt-get update after removing the repo from the list?
[04:27] <cdubya> paradizelost, yep
[04:27] <aSt3raL> heres what its doing now: i mounted it and i go to the mountpoint and theres nothing.. then i try andy twice and wont unmount umount and it says device is bus
[04:27] <paradizelost> cdubya: what are the updates it says that you need?
[04:27] <mutk> aSt3raL, Steps: 1) start nfs service 'service nfs start'  2) on NFS server do 'showmount -e' to see if any exports are available..
[04:27] <cliffd> sethk: gnome-common yes, glade-gnome(2) no. should I install glade-gnome and glade-gnome2 ?
[04:27] <matthewf> paradizelost: cant seem to get X to change to the res i want.. and i need to find a way of makeing sure it is, as the display settings thingy in gnome is werid
[04:27] <aSt3raL> y twice and wont unmount
[04:28] <sethk> cliffd, I'm not sure, those packages have a gnome-compiler-flags.m4 file, but so does gnome-common.
[04:28] <Exclamation> can someone please help me, i have broadcom wirelesss and cant get it to work
[04:28] <kruncher> What is the command name that shows you what programs have files and directory handles still open?
[04:28] <BlueEagle> matthewf: Check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check that the resolution you want is listed there.
[04:28] <cdubya> paradizelost, you mean which ones DON'T I need.....heh. It's trying to virtually update everything, from apache2 (which is installed already) through a slew of other apps
[04:28] <paradizelost> matthewf: what type of vid. card?
[04:28] <sethk> cliffd, it might be interesting to see if any errors occurred, but it might not tell us anything useful
[04:28] <aSt3raL> it shows them both there
[04:28] <BlueEagle> matthewf: also most OSDs show you the current resolution and refresh rate.
[04:28] <aSt3raL> i can mount the home directory
[04:28] <paradizelost> cdubya: but there may be updates to what you have installed
[04:28] <aSt3raL> so nfs works
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> matthewf: I wish I had an answer for you...
[04:28] <paradizelost> just do an apt-get upgrade
[04:28] <sethk> aSt3raL, it's mounted, you can't see it, but you can't umount it?
[04:28] <aSt3raL> yes
[04:28] <cliffd> sethk: installing now.
[04:29] <sethk> aSt3raL, you might try the root_squash option, that can produce odd behavior
[04:29] <matthewf> BlueEagle:  it is listed, infact  as im on a LCD i only have one res listed but it ant showing up in the gnome settings thing
[04:29] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: check the permisions on the export
[04:29] <aSt3raL> i have it set as root_squash
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I need to call it a night... 7:30 pm and I have been up since 2am.. someone else will have a soultion
[04:29] <sethk> aSt3raL, ok...
[04:29] <aSt3raL> could that be the problem?
[04:29] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: yah, if you have it exported too restricted, you might not be able to mount it
[04:29] <BlueEagle> matthewf: the gnome settings thing doesn't list any resolutions at all for me.
[04:29] <sethk> aSt3raL, it's easy to change, so try it.  As I said I've seen that option cause odd behavior.
[04:29] <aSt3raL> ok
[04:30] <BlueEagle> matthewf: Then again I'm running a dual screen setup.
[04:30] <aSt3raL> how can i unmount it now?
[04:30] <sethk> aSt3raL, what happens when you try to umount?
[04:30] <paradizelost> matthewf: pastebin a copy of your xorg.conf
[04:30] <paradizelost> please
[04:30] <aSt3raL> it says device is busy twice and doesnt unmount
[04:30] <matthewf> its realy a simple question of what is there i can do to tell what res xorg is running at
[04:30] <sethk> aSt3raL, any log messages on the server side?
[04:30] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: do an        lsof|grep /mount/point
[04:30] <kruncher> lsof
[04:31] <kruncher> haha
[04:31] <cdubya> paradizelost, point taken, but my whole system.....I've never had to install that many updates before.....
[04:31] <paradizelost> cdubya: doesn't mean that that many updates haven't come out...
[04:31] <paradizelost> after a fresh load on 6.06 or 5.10, i spend hours updating
[04:31] <matthewf> paradizelost: pastebin.com/781071
[04:31] <aSt3raL> its not there with lsof
[04:31] <aSt3raL> what does lsof do?
[04:32] <cliffd> sethk: all those .m4 files are in /usr/share/aclocal, I set ACLOCAL_FLAGS=/usr/share/aclocal and it still gives the same error
[04:32] <keleus> Does the Ubuntu CD have dar?
[04:32] <TheGame> dar?
[04:32] <paradizelost> lsof = list of open files
[04:32] <keleus> http://dar.linux.free.fr/
[04:32] <paradizelost> think of it like ls, just it shows open files/pipes
[04:32] <haasteem> i can't seem to get my floppy drive mounted, can anyone please help me?
[04:32] <sethk> cliffd, I'm not sure what's going on.  something related to automake/autoconf, probably, but I don't have a good idea about what, specifically.
[04:32] <cdubya> paradizelost, yeah, I guess I'm not looking forward to waiting on that many.....:-P
[04:32] <drew32> still looking for help on ssh tunneling a game, anyone got any help?
[04:32] <sethk> cliffd, let me think on it for a bit, maybe I'll be inspired  :)
[04:32] <paradizelost> cdubya: start it and go to the bar...
[04:32] <paradizelost> ;)
[04:33] <Warbo> Does Realplayer use OSS? It isn't making any noise, even with volume on full
[04:33] <aSt3raL> ok i found some open files on the client
[04:33] <cliffd> sethk: do you know the var to set the ACLOCAL_PATH ?
[04:33] <kitche> haasteem what have you tried?
[04:33] <aSt3raL> what now?
[04:33] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: umount -f /mount/point
[04:33] <aSt3raL> i think i tried that lemme try again
[04:33] <matthewf> paradizelost: does that xorg.conf look ok to you ?
[04:34] <paradizelost> matthewf: did you install the nvidia drivers from their site?
[04:34] <paradizelost> using the .sh file?
[04:34] <pestilence> so i have a 6.06 cd in my cdrom.  and i ran apt-cdrom add, and ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.  but it only wanted to upgrade like 4 packages.  what gives?
[04:34] <aSt3raL> that gives a different device is busy and does nothing
[04:34] <aSt3raL> do i have to reboot?
[04:34] <h00t> hello ... can someone tell me how can i create a link to my home directory on my desktop
[04:34] <Xenguy> drew32: dunno, but google ssh tunnel and I'm sure you'd get some good advice
[04:34] <paradizelost> pestilence: apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades a hell of a lot of stuff
[04:34] <matthewf> paradizelost: no i used the instuctions on the ubuntu help
[04:34] <paradizelost> aSt3raL: might seem that way
[04:34] <jikanter> !link
[04:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <pestilence> paradizelost, it *should*
[04:34] <aSt3raL> damnit
[04:34] <pestilence> paradizelost, but it doesn't.
[04:34] <Warbo> h00t: Applications>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor
[04:34] <sethk> cliffd, I did some work with those macros several months ago, but my memory is too hazy I think to be useful.
[04:35] <Warbo> h00t: Tell me when that's open
[04:35] <pestilence> paradizelost, it should upgrade the entire system to dapper from breezy.  but it doesn't want to do that and i can't figure out why
[04:35] <haasteem> kitche, about everything
[04:35] <sethk> aSt3raL, a stuck umount is one of te few things that frequently can only be cleared by a reboot
[04:35] <aSt3raL> i dont understand why trying to mount a nfs hoses the system so much
[04:35] <cliffd> sethk: if you set ACLOCAL_FLAGS="-I /path/to/aclocal" it worked. thanks very much for the help
[04:35] <aSt3raL> ok will do
[04:35] <kitche> haasteem: does it spit any errors out?
[04:35] <Warbo> pestilence: Have you commented out any Breezy lines?
[04:35] <paradizelost> pestilence: in your /etc/apt/sources.list change every instance of breezy to dapper
[04:35] <sethk> cliffd, good, although I can't really take any credit for it.  :)
[04:35] <h00t> done
[04:36] <paradizelost> matthewf: it's also possible you might need to change the 24 to a 16.
[04:36] <JoseStefan> pestilence: alternate CD right?
[04:36] <Warbo> h00t: OK, go on System Tools on the left
[04:36] <pestilence> paradizelost, i don't want to be downloading the upgrades, as i have the cd and my internet connection is slow
[04:36] <paradizelost> i've seen some screens have issues running in 24bit mode
[04:36] <pestilence> JoseStefan, no, it's a kubuntu cd
[04:36] <haasteem> kitche, no... when i want to mount it says that iti si busy or already mounted, when i do umount itsays it is not mounted
[04:36] <Warbo> h00t: Then tick "Configuration Editor"
[04:36] <cliffd> sethk: you pointed me in the right direction. and got my brain working. thanks again.
[04:36] <h00t> ok
[04:36] <sethk> cliffd, np
[04:36] <pestilence> Warbo, i tried both.  with breezy lines commented (so the kubuntu cd is the only thing listed) and with the breezy lines uncommented
[04:36] <JoseStefan> pestilence: but is it alternate or desktop (live)?
[04:36] <Warbo> h00t: Then quit Alacarte and go in Applications>System Tools>Configuration Editor
[04:36] <h00t> wait ... there's no "configuration editor"
[04:36] <bluefox83> !mplayer
[04:36] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[04:36] <matthewf> paradizelost: 16bit is rather... pointless for the use that this machine will have
[04:36] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:37] <kitche> haasteem: did you check /media
[04:37] <BlueEagle> matthewf: if you install the package sysinfo you've got an "other" tab that lists the current resolution
[04:37] <pestilence> JoseStefan, it's the official kubuntu cd, official press
[04:37] <paradizelost> matthewf: i'm just saying that some screens can't run at native in 24bit
[04:37] <BlueEagle> matthewf: Mine reads: 2560x1024
[04:37] <haasteem> kitche, what do you mean?
[04:37] <h00t> there's no config editor there to
[04:37] <Warbo> h00t: There should be.... You could try launching it manually with "gconfeditor"
[04:37] <letsgfuad> anyone know how to make it so ubuntu recognizes my external HD... when its plugged in the external HD will mount, but i cannot read or play music
[04:37] <Warbo> (in a terminal)
[04:37] <paradizelost> pestilence: are you upgrading an ubuntu 5.10 with a kubuntu 6.06 cd?
[04:37] <kitche> haasteem: think it uses /media check there think it's /media/floppy
[04:38] <haasteem> there is: /media/floppy0
[04:38] <jikanter> letsgfaud: yeah I do I will help
[04:38] <BlueEagle> !info gconf-editor
[04:38] <pestilence> paradizelost, well, i have kubuntu-desktop installed on this machine.  and i think it came from a kubuntu cd but i can'tremember at this point
[04:38] <ubotu> gconf-editor: An editor for the GConf configuration system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.0-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 1736 kB
[04:38] <haasteem> kitche, there is: /media/floppy0
[04:38] <jrib> Warbo: it got removed in dapper from the menu
[04:38] <jikanter> letsfgaud: sudo apt-get install automount
[04:38] <pestilence> paradizelost, actually, i'm pretty sure i never had ubuntu-desktop installed.
[04:38] <Warbo> Oops, yes there is a -
[04:38] <bengt_> Hi Guys
[04:38] <kitche> haasteem: check there
[04:38] <paradizelost> pestilence: did you use an ubuntu cd to install the OS, or a kubuntu CD?
[04:38] <Warbo> jrib: I know, I directed h00t to Alacarte but it wasn't there to enable
[04:38] <letsgfuad> E: Couldn't find package automount
[04:38] <haasteem> kitche, to see if it is mounted you mean?
[04:39] <Warbo> h00t: Looks like it should be "gconf-editor"
[04:39] <pestilence> paradizelost, i am not 100% certain, but i think it was a kubuntu cd.   the boot screen says kubuntu
[04:39] <kitche> haasteem: yeah
[04:39] <JoseStefan> pestilence: the kubuntu desktop CD is not suitable for upgrades
[04:39] <pestilence> it was a while ago.  and i did have ubuntu on this mahcine at one point
[04:39] <haasteem> kitche, it is not
[04:39] <pestilence> JoseStefan, oh that's great.
[04:39] <bengt_> I have a problem with a directory that I can not delete... d-wSr---wt  .... rm: cannot remove directory ... Operation not permitted
[04:39] <sethk> pestilence, it says kubuntu even if you use the ubuntu cd and install kde, so that doesn't tell anything one way or the other
[04:39] <paradizelost> pestilence: that happens if you install w/ ubuntu and do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:39] <pestilence> JoseStefan,  how did you determine that?
[04:39] <eyequeue> bengt_, sudo rm
[04:39] <letsgfuad> jikanter: E: Couldn't find package automount
[04:39] <haasteem> kitche, i have a disk inside the drive but nothing shows up (i use xfe, not nautilus)
[04:39] <bengt_> How can I rectify this? I think my hd has had some problems which might have caused this...
[04:39] <BlueEagle> bengt_: and which directory is this?
[04:40] <hoehaver>  5) su
[04:40] <hoehaver> 6) make install
[04:40] <hoehaver> 7) exit (the root environment)
[04:40] <bengt_> eyequeue: sorry, sudo do not work///
[04:40] <pestilence> sethk, paradizelost ok, fine, but i am pretty sure i installed with a kubuntu cd ;)
[04:40] <hoehaver> if I type exit in a term it will exit it out
[04:40] <bengt_> bengt@myssie:~$ cd /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[04:40] <bengt_> bengt@myssie:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ ls -lad libnautilus-extension1.list/
[04:40] <bengt_> d-wSr---wt  2 21791 11934 12288 1964-07-07 08:17 libnautilus-extension1.list/
[04:40] <bengt_> bengt@myssie:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ file !$
[04:40] <bengt_> file libnautilus-extension1.list/
[04:40] <bengt_> libnautilus-extension1.list/: setuid sticky directory
[04:40] <eyequeue> bengt_, may i ask the path?
[04:40] <bengt_> bengt@myssie:/var/lib/dpkg/info$ sudo rm -fr !$
[04:40] <Warbo> "sudo update-alternatives --configure usplash" I think will choose bootup/shutdown image
[04:40] <JoseStefan> pestilence: says it on the download page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06.1/
[04:40] <bengt_> sudo rm -fr libnautilus-extension1.list/
[04:40] <bengt_> Password:
[04:40] <hoehaver> how do I just exit out of root like it tells me to do
[04:40] <bengt_> rm: cannot remove directory `libnautilus-extension1.list/': Operation not permitted
[04:40] <sethk> bengt_, that's not a disk error, that's something the O/S has locked and is using
[04:40] <jikanter> letsgfaud: what desktop environment are you running?
[04:40] <sethk> bengt_, if you really have some need to remove it, you can boot from a live cd, mount the file system, and remove it.
[04:40] <bengt_> this file should be a file and not a directory... should be owned by root, not by a weird owner...
[04:40] <hoehaver> wow. I didn't mean to paste that much...my bad
[04:40] <matthewf> gah.. something definatly ant right ..
[04:40] <paradizelost> bengt_: says you don't have permissions
[04:40] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bengt_ about paste
[04:40] <letsgfuad> jikanter: fluxbox!
[04:41] <Warbo> sethk: Woah, I didn't think Linux did that (hence the old rm -rf <somewhere I will not say> scenario)
[04:41] <letsgfuad> should i swap over to xfce?
[04:41] <hoehaver> or...o, nvm
[04:41] <hoehaver> how do I exit out or foot??
[04:41] <hoehaver> root*
[04:41] <eyequeue> bengt_, okay, trrrrrry a sudo chmod 777 of that dir
[04:41] <pestilence> JoseStefan, oh that's great :)
[04:41] <bengt_> BlueEagle: Sorry about pasting to much... tried to come up with a small consice sentence...
[04:41] <matthewf> its showing 1024x768 in that sysinfo
[04:41] <jikanter> letsgfaud: oh hmm...
[04:41] <jikanter> yes
[04:41] <Jamminpotato> letsgfuad, xfce is always a ood way to go
[04:41] <letsgfuad> ok ill be back shortly
[04:41] <paradizelost> matthewf: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the display lines that say 24 to say 16 and restart X
[04:41] <sethk> bengt_, you can do a sudo chown on it, to make it owned by root, and then you'll probably be able to rm it
[04:41] <JoseStefan> pestilence: i believe you need the alternate CD for that, or just do a a regular upgrade using the internet
[04:41] <pestilence> JoseStefan, that doesn't really make sense, since if i installed it from scratch using this cd it would install all the packages that i want to upgrade
[04:41] <h00t> Warbo: I actualy found it, enabled it and ran it... now what .. i can't see anything about making shortcuts
[04:41] <bengt_> sethk: Tried that... do not work...
[04:41] <pestilence> JoseStefan, *sigh*
[04:42] <sethk> bengt_, the ownership didn't change?
[04:42] <pestilence> that will take a while on my slow dsl line :-/
[04:42] <aSt3raL> so i mounted a different directory on the same machine and im copying files across the network right now
[04:42] <Warbo> h00t: OK, apps>nautilus>desktop
[04:42] <andresmujica> hi!!
[04:42] <hoehaver>  5) su
[04:42] <hoehaver> 6) make install
[04:42] <hoehaver> 7) exit (the root environment)
[04:42] <bengt_> sudo... chown: changing ownership of `libnautilus-extension1.list': Operation not permitted
[04:42] <haasteem> kitche, so no luck there either
[04:42] <hoehaver> how do I exit the root inviroment??
[04:42] <pestilence> JoseStefan, thanks, though
[04:42] <Warbo> h00t: (I think it is desktop, maybe something different, but still obvious)
[04:42] <paradizelost> hoehaver: please stop pasting those lines
[04:42] <BlueEagle> hoehaver: logout or exit
[04:42] <jikanter> hoehaver:exit
[04:42] <JoseStefan> pestilence: the desktop (live) cds work completly different, they don't have packages per say, it's like transfering an image
[04:42] <BlueEagle> hoehaver: and !pastebin
[04:42] <andresmujica> anyone can recommend a good firewall solution for ubuntu/kubuntu???  firestarter?  kmyfirewall?  another one??
[04:42] <jikanter> !pastebin
[04:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:42] <sethk> bengt_, paste the entire result of ls -l, the entire line for the file
[04:42] <h00t> got it ... found it ... Warbo ... thank you
[04:42] <aSt3raL> i think it might be easier just to set up a new virtual directory for apache
[04:42] <hoehaver> it I type exit the term clses
[04:42] <pestilence> JoseStefan, ah.
[04:42] <Warbo> h00t: There is also this.....
[04:42] <eyequeue> bengt_, you also have both an owner and group on it that are not known, so yes, i suspect you're riht about it screwy
[04:42] <hoehaver> closes*
[04:43] <paradizelost> andresmujica: firestarter
[04:43] <Warbo> !info gtweakui
[04:43] <ubotu> gtweakui: A collection of simple dialogs as a front end to GConf. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2 (dapper), package size 67 kB, installed size 452 kB
[04:43] <aSt3raL> then try and get the /var/etc to work on nfs
[04:43] <brendonjt> hi all
[04:43] <bengt_> d-wSr---wt  2 21791 11934 12288 1964-07-07 08:17 libnautilus-extension1.list
[04:43] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> see ya guys
[04:43] <hoehaver> and why would I use a paste bin just to paste three lines??
[04:43] <pestilence> JoseStefan, so even with the ubuntu cd, you have to have the "alternate install" cd to upgrade?
[04:43] <aSt3raL> er.. /var/www
[04:43] <hoehaver> I wouldn't.
[04:43] <JoseStefan> pestilence: guess so
[04:43] <paradizelost> pestilence: you can't use a desktop cd to upgrade, as it's a livecd
[04:43] <h00t> Warbo: what is this Configuration Editor ... is it kinda like registry in Win
[04:43] <pestilence> JoseStefan, that kinda stinks for people like me, but i guess it works well for most others
[04:43] <sethk> bengt_, it's hard to see how you could have a coherent filename and the rest be, apparently, random.
[04:43] <pestilence> paradizelost, got it.  thanks
[04:43] <jikanter> h00t: sort of
[04:43] <sethk> bengt_, the thing to do in any case is to boot a live cd, run fsck on the file system, then remove it.
[04:44] <Warbo> h00t: A bit, but it is only for GNOME programs, so nothing system level is stored there
[04:44] <bengt_> A lot of the .list files dissapeared... did the bad thing, and copied them from a dapper system to this old breezy system. but this one is caputski...
[04:44] <pestilence> aack.. Need to get 855MB of archives. After unpacking 553MB will be used.
[04:44] <Warbo> h00t: Most of it can be changed with preferences dialogs, especially if you install gtweakui package
[04:44] <pestilence> that's going to take all night :-(
[04:44] <h00t> Warbo: jikanter: so kde doesn't have the same thing
[04:44] <jikanter> umm. I am just less familiar with KDE
[04:44] <sethk> bengt_, yes, but the apparently random uid and gid can't be explained by that
[04:44] <bengt_> sethk: Thanks for the confirmation... I need to get a cd added to this small box then...
[04:44] <JoseStefan> pestilence: you are currently using kubuntu 5.10?
[04:45] <pestilence> JoseStefan, yes
[04:45] <jikanter> I bet you someone else can help you better than I
[04:45] <matthewf> changeing to 16bit didnt do any good
[04:45] <Warbo> KDE has a central control-panel type thing (which I find useful to install fonts)
[04:45] <JoseStefan> pestilence: ok, just wanted to confirm
[04:45] <letsgfuad> ok im back
[04:45] <h00t> thanx guys
[04:45] <bengt_> sethk: Sort of... since I think a lot of the issues were caused by some kind of hd problem... fsck reported loads of problem....
[04:45] <matthewf> its still stuck at 1024x768
[04:45] <aSt3raL> i have been using ubuntu for about a year and i just found out yesterday that ive been using the 386 kernel on a 686 machine
[04:45] <aSt3raL> and the 686 kernel is a lot faster
[04:45] <h00t> btw ... anyone know any good MMO game for linux ... not WoW
[04:45] <Warbo> I'm going to try Realplayer again, and see if I get sound
[04:45] <BigToe> I FEEL TIRED I SHALL SLEEP FUCK THIS SHIT :D
[04:45] <andresmujica> paradizelost: thanks, i've got some issues with firestarter and ppoe, maybe bad config? do you know if the both of them work well??
[04:46] <letsgfuad> jikuty: hey im back, so apt-get install automount wont work
[04:46] <eyequeue> !language
[04:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:46] <aSt3raL> ubuntu needs to make updating the kernel to match your cpu more known
[04:46] <paradizelost> andresmujica: i've been using firestarter for a long time, but i haven't tried using it w/ pppoe
[04:46] <sethk> bengt_, that fits with random uid and gid.  but, when you ran fsck, did you fix the errors?
[04:46] <aSt3raL> i bet half the ubuntu pc users out there are using the slower 386 kernel without realizing it
[04:46] <bengt_> sethk: yes, answered yes on all... also did a shutdown -F, and reboot, and it came up as it should.
[04:47] <crimsun> aSt3raL: we've all but blown that theory out of the water.
[04:47] <paradizelost> matthewf: if you do an lsmod|grep nvidia does it show anything?
[04:47] <sethk> bengt_, if you rerun fsck, then, it reports no errors (run with -f, meaning check it even if it was normally shut down)?
[04:47] <aSt3raL> you mean there are a lot of ppl doing it?
[04:47] <suckafoo> I'm trying to install that latest version of Ubuntu 64 when the desktop should come up I get a squished illegible version that appears like the whole screen squished to like 50pixels, but the mouse works great! Any idea whats going wrong?
[04:47] <bengt_> sethk: when the disk is mounted?
[04:47] <crimsun> aSt3raL: yep, and installing -686/-k7 doesn't make noticeable difference in many tasks.
[04:47] <aSt3raL> thats why im saying ubuntu needs to put something on their website or something
[04:47] <bengt_> sethk: I thought shutdown -F, would force a fsck to be done on next reboot
[04:48] <jikanter> letsfgaud: go to this link and I will walk you through it
[04:48] <eyequeue> crimsun, does that info come from popcon?
[04:48] <letsgfuad> anyone know how i can get my music to play from my external HD... the pictures on it can be seen but not the music...
[04:48] <jikanter> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:48] <aSt3raL> i can notice it
[04:48] <crimsun> aSt3raL: in fact, we're going to -generic for edgy
[04:48] <pestilence> suckafoo, the mouse will move over the entire screen?
[04:48] <jikanter> letsfgaud:ok?
[04:48] <aSt3raL> for one the machine boots up about 5-10 seconds faster
[04:48] <suckafoo> yup... works fine...
[04:48] <aSt3raL> whats -generic?
[04:48] <letsgfuad> so i set my sound to the SB PCI512 {CT4790]
[04:48] <matthewf> paradizelost: yes it does
[04:48] <eyequeue> crimsun, i'm moderately curious about the info that popcon would provide, in total
[04:48] <pestilence> suckafoo, what happens when you log in?
[04:48] <letsgfuad> thats what my sound card is so uhh it must be a different problem
[04:49] <paradizelost> matthewf: if you do an       glxinfo
[04:49] <paradizelost> matthewf: at the top does it say Direct Rendering: YEs
[04:49] <paradizelost> ??
[04:49] <aSt3raL> -generic is more so than 386?
[04:49] <matthewf> paradizelost: yes it does...basicly for all intents and purposes this should be working but it isnt ...
[04:49] <suckafoo> no log in happens, it goes through the boot screen fine, loading kernel, etc... then when I should see the live CD desktop and be able to click the install icon I get that squished up screen
[04:50] <jikanter> letsfgaud: right click on my name and click private chat
[04:50] <aSt3raL> how much benefit is there to compiling a kernel if im running 686?
[04:50] <Warbo> Help I have no sound in Realplayer!
[04:50] <pestilence> suckafoo, oh...
[04:50] <crimsun> aSt3raL: it's -386
[04:50] <paradizelost> matthewf: did you change the 24 to 16?
[04:50] <JoseStefan> i thought generic was for 64-bit ?
[04:50] <Warbo> aSt3raL: There is already a 686 kernel
[04:50] <pestilence> suckafoo, try using the alternate install cd...
[04:50] <matthewf> paradizelost: yep i did that
[04:50] <crimsun> aSt3raL: -686 and -k7 are going the route of the dodo
[04:51] <matthewf> paradizelost: is it worth it to rebuilt an xorg.conf ?
[04:51] <pestilence> suckafoo, or you could try to fix the live cd by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and editing /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[04:51] <matthewf> rebuild rather
[04:51] <Warbo> crimsun: Yeah, since I'm lovin' the SMP capabilities of -386.....
[04:51] <aSt3raL> right but if im using the 686 kernel, would i benefit from compiling a kernel specific for my machine?
[04:51] <paradizelost> matthewf: can't hurt
[04:51] <suckafoo> I think I might be using it. I used the .torrent
[04:51] <jikanter> Warbo: hit control+alt-f1
[04:51] <JoseStefan> aSt3raL, it's not worth it
[04:51] <suckafoo> I'll try to get a copy of both to see if it's any different
[04:51] <pestilence> suckafoo, the alternate install cd uses the old style of installer -- no desktop
[04:52] <suckafoo> oh
[04:52] <crimsun> aSt3raL: if you honestly believe so, then do it.
[04:52] <suckafoo> that might be better
[04:52] <blocky> anybody know how to enable vertical sync in xine
[04:52] <Warbo> aSt3raL: Most of the stuff is done as modules anyway, so you could blacklist modules you don't want to load (like maybe PCMCIA on a desktop system)
[04:52] <barata> how to convert ape files to mp3 in linux?
[04:52] <aSt3raL> i was just asking
[04:52] <blocky> or do I need to it in GDM or X
[04:52] <barata> anybody did it before?
[04:52] <suckafoo> or I might just get a screwed up REAL desktop. We'll see. Thanks for the help.
[04:52] <letsgfuad> jikanter: it wont let me do anything besides paste your name
[04:52] <jikanter> ok
[04:52] <letsgfuad> jikanter: im using irrsi in terminal
[04:52] <jikanter> ok
[04:52] <brendonjt> suckafoo: and using the alt is also less resource hungry as well
[04:52] <JoseStefan> i still think the 686/k7 kernels are better than the 386 linux
[04:53] <Warbo> jikanter: If I do then Realplayer will probably lose my video too, and I have been performing mouse gymnastics to display anything at all
[04:53] <letsgfuad> jikanter: join #helpfuad
[04:53] <barata> DID ANYBODY EVER CONVERT OR DEAL WITH APE FILE IN MUSIC? HOW TO CONVERT IT TO MP3? WHAT PLAYER IS TO USE?
[04:53] <Warbo> !caps > barata
[04:53] <Warbo> barata: Why the hell use a player to convert? I would set up a gstreamer pipeline
[04:53] <barata> sorry
[04:54] <pestilence> barata, i think so.
[04:54] <Warbo> That is pretty advanced though
[04:54] <Warbo> !info soundconverter
[04:54] <ubotu> soundconverter: simple sound converter application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 216 kB
[04:54] <ladydoor> barata: yes, somebody did, sometime
[04:54] <pharcvde> has anyone used a media player with a slvr phone?
[04:54] <barata> uboty: so soundconverter also read ape file?
[04:54] <Warbo> barata: It uses Gstreamer, so yes
[04:54] <ladydoor> barata: ubotu is a bot
[04:55] <barata> why streamer? I've got the file do not need streaming
[04:55] <lauren_> hi
[04:55] <lauren_> im new
[04:55] <barata> hi lauren
[04:55] <paradizelost> !ask
[04:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:55] <lauren_> hey
[04:55] <Warbo> Can someone please offer advice for getting sound in Realplayer? I tried "killall esd" already, and "fuser /dev/dsp" says nothing
[04:55] <barata> !answer
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about answer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <lauren_> no 1 ever says hi to me when i say i in a chat room lol
[04:56] <nuxord> hello
 barata: It uses Gstreamer, so yes ---> why does it even need gstreamer?
[04:56] <barata> let me google
[04:56] <Warbo> barata: Need? What does that mean?  What does that mean? Gstreamer does everything, so NOT using it would be stupid --> Im an xmms fanatics, but you're right
[04:57] <^Down> How do I get the "deb" command to work in terminal?
[04:57] <barata> let me install gstreamer & try
[04:57] <pestilence> barata, here's how i did it:   http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_ape_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux
[04:58] <Warbo> barata: It uses 0.8 I htink, so get those plugins
[04:58] <hoehaver> if my su password isn't my sudo pass or my password(which is also the sudo pass)
[04:58] <Warbo> *think
[04:58] <hoehaver> what would the se pass be??
[04:58] <pestilence> barata, worked like a charm.
[04:58] <hoehaver> su*
[04:58] <Warbo> hoehaver: su is disabled for none root users. Use sudo
[04:58] <shinta42> can anyone help me with the nvidia installation script Envy? it compiled the module, but then says "unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'.
[04:58] <barata> still installing
[04:59] <Xenguy> ^Down: what do you wnat to do tho?
[04:59] <barata> there is gstreamer 0.10 now
[04:59] <pestilence> shinta42, try running sudo depmod -a
[04:59] <Warbo> barata: Yes, but that app doesn't use it yet
[05:00] <Warbo> And neither does Thoggen or Istanbul
[05:00] <twisted> hey, anyone happen to know if there's a .deb for the Firefox 2 beta 2?
[05:00] <barata> which plugin works with ape file?
[05:00] <ladydoor> ;
[05:00] <ladydoor> sorry
[05:00] <Warbo> !info realplay
[05:00] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:00] <shinta42> pestilence:does it has to do with things i shouldn't/should add in my kernel?
[05:00] <Xenguy> Warbo: gross windows software = wink (?)
[05:00] <Warbo> Xenguy: What?
[05:00] <cee-jay> A local PC repairman told me today that Ubuntu somehow swapped my power button with escape key.  I'm skeptical that any OS could mess with key mapping (other than within the shell).  Is this possible at all??
[05:00] <shinta42> pestilence:i didn't compile the framebuffer server
[05:00] <Xenguy> Warbo: under wine
[05:01] <Warbo> Xenguy: WINE runs some WIndows software, yes
[05:01] <Xenguy> Warbo: try running 'wink' under 'wine'
[05:01] <Xenguy> yes
[05:01] <twisted> cee-jay: u mean the hardware power button?
[05:01] <brendonjt> cee-jay: umm i doubt that very much
[05:01] <Warbo> Xenguy: Is that the screencapture tool?
[05:01] <cee-jay> yeah the HW power button
[05:01] <twisted> cee-jay: impossible
[05:01] <Xenguy> Warbo: yeah
[05:01] <Warbo> Xenguy: I have the Linux version anyway
[05:02] <twisted> cee-jay: the hw power button is attached strait to ur mainboard
[05:02] <Warbo> (and I don't like it)
[05:02] <HBK> hello
[05:02] <Xenguy> Warbo: I have no experience, it's just a lead I read about
[05:02] <twisted> it doesn't go through software first
[05:02] <cee-jay> i thought so
[05:02] <_MoNkAbAnG_> im back
[05:02] <_MoNkAbAnG_> but new name
[05:02] <pestilence> shinta42, depmod -a just builds the dependencies for newly installed modules
[05:02] <HBK> I need help on setting up Ubuntu
[05:02] <_MoNkAbAnG_> its lauren
[05:02] <Xenguy> Warbo: I wasn't aware that there was a linux version
[05:02] <Warbo> XVidCap and PyVNC2SWF are the best I have found
[05:02] <twisted> cee-jay: however, you can bind Esc to do shutdown...
[05:02] <shinta42> pestilence: okay i typed it...nothing happened
[05:02] <brendonjt> twisted:  i think that computer tech who told him that needs to go back to school
[05:02] <_MoNkAbAnG_> does anyone know a guy named kash
[05:02] <hoehaver> I need some help....
[05:02] <twisted> werd
[05:02] <HBK> hello
[05:02] <Hexidigital> anyone who has installed the aptitude version of eggdrop know where the eggdrop.conf files are kept? i cannot find them
[05:02] <cee-jay> twisted:  yeah but only shutdown, not power on right?
[05:02] <matthewf> its still not working ..... arrrg
[05:03] <brendonjt> hbk:  hi there
[05:03] <pestilence> shinta42, and if you try to modprobe the module again?
[05:03] <HBK> hey bren
[05:03] <ladydoor> Hexidigital: whereis eggdrop
[05:03] <HBK> I need help on setting up Ubuntu
[05:03] <Hexidigital> ladydoor, didn't work
[05:03] <_MoNkAbAnG_> brb
[05:03] <shinta42> pestilence: not found
[05:03] <hoehaver> im unstalling gaim v v and im almost done with the steps. but step 7 says to exit (root enviroment)
[05:03] <Warbo> I updated to the latest version of Realplayer (realplay package) but sound isn't working in it
[05:03] <hoehaver> how do I do this.
[05:03] <brendonjt> hbk:  fire away
[05:03] <Xenguy> Warbo: yawn
[05:03] <twisted> cee-jay: yup, like I said, hw button can only power on and off
[05:03] <hoehaver> I can't type exit b/c then it will close the term
[05:03] <pestilence> shinta42, did the module get installed in /lib/modules/(your kernel version)?
[05:03] <HBK> I got my CD delivered of Ubuntu and Kubuntu....
[05:03] <ladydoor> Hexidigital: ah, you'll probably need to wait until slocate (the locate database) updates itsel
[05:03] <barata> I've got gstreamer but why I cannot run it?
[05:03] <twisted> or you need equipment that's attached strait into the hardware
[05:03] <hoehaver> I tried exit root and that closed the term aswell
[05:03] <HBK> I've never used Linux
[05:04] <pestilence> shinta42, find /lib/modules/ -name "nvidia*"
[05:04] <Hexidigital> ladydoor, can i do that manually?
[05:04] <HBK> I have Via motherboard and Nvidia graphics card
[05:04] <cee-jay> cool.  i'll tell him "twisted said so"  :D  thanks again!
[05:04] <barata> it doesn't even show! do I need another app? is gstreamer only for background support/daemon?
[05:04] <atsugnam> Hexidigital, you can update the locate db with updatedb
[05:04] <twisted> kewl
[05:04] <ladydoor> Hexidigital: i dunno. you might could look in /usr/share/eggdrop or /usr/share/doc/eggdrop
[05:04] <Warbo> hoehaver: Are you sure it didn't say "chroot"? Either way, Ctrl-D usually means exit
[05:04] <brendonjt> hbk:  yip  same  i have via chipset mobo as well
[05:04] <Hexidigital> atsugnam, ladydoor , thank you both
[05:04] <atsugnam> then use locate 'filename'
[05:04] <HBK> I got the drivers of both 64-bit with AMD s754 2800+ processor
[05:04] <^Down> I need some help installing a program called MoBlock. When I try to install it, I get a message "moblock-nfq: Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.0-3) but 3.0-1ubuntu8 is to be installed". How would I be able to fix that
[05:04] <ladydoor> Hexidigital: which is where a lot of stuff goes
[05:04] <matthewf> Ok so this is all not working for seemingly no reason at all and it is annoying me
[05:04] <ladydoor> barata: gstreamer is a command-line program
[05:05] <HBK> my chipset and model no. of mobo - K8M800 & K8MM-V
[05:05] <Warbo> Gstreamer is a framework
[05:05] <ladydoor> barata: unless you install a frontend
[05:05] <godtvisk1n> Why doesn't gnomebaker burn .oggs by default?
[05:05] <lgc_> eyequeue, I got the PDA up and running. Are you familiar with Evolution?
[05:05] <brendonjt> hbk: yip  wots the problem?
[05:05] <shinta42> pestilence:its not in my current kernel dir but are in the default cd installation kernel ver dir
[05:05] <ladydoor> godtvisk1n: are you root?
[05:05] <HBK> I have a spare HDD shall I install Ubuntu in it or Kubuntu?
[05:05] <hoehaver> warbo  "exit (the root environment) "
[05:05] <godtvisk1n> ladydoor: no
[05:05] <ladydoor> godtvisk1n: you need to be to burn a cd....
[05:05] <matthewf> HBK: VIA stuff works out of the box usualy ..so shouldnt have any problems there
[05:05] <atsugnam> HBK, why not both?
[05:05] <pestilence> shinta42, that probably explains it, you built against and installed into the wrong kernel tree
[05:05] <hoehaver> the after I do that im sopost to type  gst-register
[05:05] <brendonjt> hbk: it is personal choice,  but i would go with ubuntu
[05:05] <godtvisk1n> ladydoor: i have burned a cd without being root before
[05:06] <barata> ladydoor: how to call it?
[05:06] <HBK> can I install it on a USB HDD? I have a USB enclosure
[05:06] <ladydoor> godtvisk1n: really? weird
[05:06] <godtvisk1n> ladydoor: it is just oggs that say i don't have a plugin for it
[05:06] <Warbo> HBK: That is up to you. Choose whichever, but I would recommend using GNOME and KDE (the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu) eventually, to see which you prefer
[05:06] <shinta42> pestilence: i ran envy script
[05:06] <ladydoor> barata: don't know. i don't use it
[05:06] <shinta42> pestilence: so what should i do?
[05:06] <hoehaver> every time I type gst-register it says command not found
[05:06] <Warbo> HBK: Ubuntu installs to USB fine
[05:06] <pestilence> shinta42, ok, well envy did it then ;)
[05:06] <Warbo> HBK: Can your PC boot from USB?
[05:06] <hoehaver> so im not doing something right....like exiting the root inviroment
[05:06] <shinta42> pestilence: just move those nvidia* files?
[05:06] <ladydoor> godtvisk1n: ah. weird. do you have libvorbis installed?
[05:06] <barata> I'm trying totem now
[05:06] <cafuego> You need to register for the GST with the tax office, not in Ubuntu.
[05:06] <HBK> I saw that you can convert Ubuntu to Kubuntu with the KDE Package
[05:06] <brendonjt> hbk: but my advice would be use it as a live cd first, and see how you like it before installing it
[05:06] <pestilence> shinta42, why don't you apt-get remove the obsolete kernel & headers
[05:06] <HBK> Yes my PC boots from USB
[05:06] <^Down> I need some help installing a program called MoBlock. When I try to install it, I get a message "moblock-nfq: Depends: lsb-base (>= 3.0-3) but 3.0-1ubuntu8 is to be installed". How would I be able to fix that
[05:06] <TheGame> hbk nice name
[05:06] <pestilence> shinta42, moving the modules probably won't work, but you can try
[05:07] <atsugnam> hbk, you can iunstall kubuntu using aptitude
[05:07] <Warbo> HBK: OK, just that it gets complicated if it doesn't
[05:07] <minerale> I'm lost at this: when using gnome all the fonts are bigger, ie if I start gnome and use the terminal at font size 9, awhen I switch to fluxbox or any other window manager I have to swithc the font to 10 for it to display the same, fonts unger the default gnome are bigger in ubuntu... anyone noticed this ?
[05:07] <HBK> Yes one thing I want to know here is this easy?
[05:07] <Bot_Builder> what do you guys think of gentoo?
[05:07] <matthewf> anyone care to offer any other ideas as to why im stuck in 1024x768 ?
[05:07] <gentoo> i hope you like me
[05:07] <Bot_Builder> looks pretty sweet to me
[05:07] <gentoo> !!
[05:07] <Warbo> HBK: Try it and you will see that it is REALLY easy
[05:07] <gentoo>  thanks
[05:07] <HBK> I never touched Linux ever I used XP as always
[05:07] <cliffd> Bot_Builder: its a second job. I just moved from gentoo
[05:07] <shinta42> pestilence:i have..like 6 or 7 kernel vers...very messy right
[05:07] <Bot_Builder> lol
[05:07] <gentoo> you were here?
[05:07] <godtvisk1n> ladydoor: if i can play oggs, do i have it installed?
[05:07] <gentoo> didnt notice
[05:07] <pestilence> shinta42, do you need all of them?
[05:07] <HBK> I don't know much command line programs either
[05:07] <barata> matthewf> anyone care to offer any other ideas as to why im stuck in 1024x768 ? ---> what else can your screen do?
[05:07] <shinta42> pestilence: no....
[05:07] <shinta42> pestilence:how to remove?
[05:07] <Warbo> HBK: So?
[05:07] <Xenguy> HBK: start
[05:07] <barata> 1280x800?
[05:07] <pestilence> shinta42, there has to be some way to tell envy to use your current version
[05:07] <brendonjt> hbk: it is easy  most if it is all x anyway
[05:08] <HBK> will I be lost somewhere? is it difficult to work on Ubuntu?
[05:08] <brendonjt> hbk: it is very user friendly
[05:08] <shinta42> pestilence: ./envy is the way to run it..i dunno sigh
[05:08] <matthewf> barata: its native res is 1280x1024@75hz
[05:08] <pestilence> well, determine the kernel names, and apt-get remove them ;)
[05:08] <ladydoor> godtvisk1n: i guess so. huh. i don't know :-(
[05:08] <Bot_Builder> Would I miss much from ubuntu moving to gentoo?
[05:08] <brendonjt> hbk: nope
[05:08] <atsugnam> HBK, KDE is more "like" windows in layout than gnome, but barring some menu placements it's all pretty much the same to start using
[05:08] <Xenguy> feedback
[05:08] <shinta42> pestilence: also need to run again on the headers?
[05:08] <HBK> I hear that you have to do everything by giving commands in the command prompt, is this true?
[05:08] <D-Man`> I want to grep a file and *IF* I find an entry then - and - only - then have the results mailed to an e-mail.... using cron     can someone help me with the syntax?
[05:08] <pestilence> shinta42, might as well, they just take up space if you aren't using that kernel
[05:08] <atsugnam> HBK, no
[05:08] <brendonjt> hbk: no
[05:08] <shinta42> pestilence:okay..~~~
[05:08] <Xenguy> HBK: not at all
[05:08] <matthewf> Bot_Builder: Gentoo is for the hardcore heh
[05:08] <Warbo> HBK: Not at all. You may see many command-line instructions given in here, but that is a) command-line is often much quicker to use than GUI and b) It is easier to type a command in a text-based chat than type out a deskcription of a GUI
[05:08] <_MoNkAbAnG_> hey again
[05:08] <Xenguy> HBK: but it helps sometimes :-)
[05:09] <pestilence> shinta42, apt should warn you severly if you try to remove the running kernel, so you shouldn't worry too much about doing that
[05:09] <shinta42> pestilence:ok
[05:09] <HBK> Have any of y'all used Freespire or Linspire it has Click and Run thingy which is like windoze
[05:09] <Bot_Builder> matthewf - well, I can code...
[05:09] <barata> matthewf: install 915resolution
[05:09] <Warbo> HBK: Click 'n' Run is NOTHING like WIndows
[05:09] <pestilence> HBK, i think you want #linspire.
[05:09] <atsugnam> HBK, Ubuntu has Synaptics package manager
[05:09] <Xenguy> HBK: hype
[05:09] <barata> or 8-something-resolution
[05:09] <atsugnam> used to install packages
[05:09] <HBK> I don't know I'm all set to install Ubuntu and all but there is something in the back of my head saying no, dunno why
[05:09] <Xenguy> HBK: hype = linspire etc.
[05:09] <shinta42> pestilence:i will look for u in a sec
[05:09] <matthewf> Bot_Builder: Gentoo is pretty much a roll your own disto type deal
[05:09] <barata> research what your monitor screen needs
[05:09] <Warbo> With Windows you need to get (usually by paying for) each bit of software seperately from different places
[05:10] <pestilence> shinta42, k.
[05:10] <gentoo> stop highlighting me
[05:10] <pestilence> HBK, so run the livecd and see if you like it
[05:10] <barata> matthewf: google 915resolution
[05:10] <brendonjt> hbk: give it a shot you will not be disappointed either
[05:10] <Bot_Builder> gentoo - then change your name...
[05:10] <HBK> I see that you can also run games in Linux with wine and cedega
[05:10] <Warbo> In Linux you can get it all from one place, whether that is Click 'n' run or Synaptic
[05:10] <pestilence> HBK, it's a "try it before you buy it" feature
[05:10] <brendonjt> hbk: sure can
[05:10] <HBK> Okay if I run the Live CD now
[05:10] <_MoNkAbAnG_> im new to lynix explain all this to me
[05:10] <HBK> do I need the drivers?
[05:10] <barata> matthewf: mine works with 915resolution but yours might need 817resolution
[05:10] <HBK> or it will work?
[05:10] <matthewf> barata: im on NV video.. not intel
[05:10] <Xenguy> _MoNkAbAnG_: explain what?
[05:10] <pestilence> HBK, it will work on most computers without any trouble
[05:10] <Warbo> HBK: NOt usually
[05:10] <_MoNkAbAnG_> like what r yall talking about
[05:10] <barata> oh ... I don't matthewf
[05:11] <barata> oh ... I don't know matthewf
[05:11] <brendonjt> hbk: that is why  you run the live cd to see what driver s you need and if you like it
[05:11] <Warbo> HBK: What graphics card do you have?
[05:11] <barata> I dont have NV video
[05:11] <_MoNkAbAnG_> im so confused i dont know this comp talk
[05:11] <Bot_Builder> I'm gonna try gentoo then.  I can always install ubuntu if it gets frustrating
[05:11] <_MoNkAbAnG_> lol
[05:11] <HBK> I have AGP BFG-Tech GeForce 6800 OC
[05:11] <Xenguy> _MoNkAbAnG_: linux rocks, sit back, relax, and enjoy ... :-)
[05:11] <pestilence> Bot_Builder, that shouldn't take long.
[05:11] <matthewf> Bot_Builder: it takes alot of time
[05:11] <_MoNkAbAnG_> ok thanks
[05:11] <matthewf> Bot_Builder:  and alot of typeing heh
[05:11] <Bot_Builder> lol, we'll see
[05:11] <pestilence> Bot_Builder, get about 1/4 the way through compiling gcc, glibc, xorg, and you'll come crawling back
[05:12] <Warbo> HBK: OK. That will work fine straight away, but it may go slow for 3D without a non-Free driver. But you can install that easily after you have installed Ubuntu from Synaptic package manager
[05:12] <Xenguy> .oO(lovely rita)
[05:12] <_MoNkAbAnG_> ill try to act like i know what yall are saying
[05:12] <HBK> which looks closer to windoze look n' feel wise? Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:12] <Warbo> I say Kununtu
[05:12] <Warbo> *Kubuntu
[05:12] <basbryan> kubuntu
[05:12] <pestilence> HBK, i say kubuntu too
[05:12] <smwon> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. How do I do this?
[05:12] <Warbo> But I have found very XP-like themes for GNOME
[05:12] <_MoNkAbAnG_> away
[05:12] <pestilence> smwon, open up a terminal
[05:12] <Bot_Builder> alright... I guess I'll stick with ubuntu.
[05:12] <JoseStefan> funny, i say ubuntu
[05:12] <smwon> ok
[05:12] <ladydoor> smwon: open a terminal and do it
[05:12] <_MoNkAbAnG_> ok
[05:12] <pestilence> smwon, type "sudo apt-get install -f"
[05:12] <HBK> what about nUbuntu, Xubuntu and edubuntu! I'm confused :(
[05:12] <matthewf> is there anyware other then x.org that stores display resolution settings ?
[05:13] <smwon> hold on
[05:13] <^Down> Is there a command to list all programs running?
[05:13] <brendonjt> hbk: i haven't used kde  for along time  i switched to gnoe as i have found kde to bloated
[05:13] <atsugnam> HBK, the diff distros offer different features
[05:13] <pestilence> HBK, just use kubuntu.  you'll like it
[05:13] <Xenguy> HBK: different slices of the same entity :-)
[05:13] <ladydoor> HBK: nUbuntu?
[05:13] <matthewf> xorg.conf tather
[05:13] <Warbo> HBK: You don't want them. nUbuntu is for network testing, Edubuntu is for little kids and Xubuntu is for slow computers
[05:13] <JoseStefan> i find KDE Konfusing
[05:13] <barata> guys, my totem doesnt play ape file ... what to do?
[05:13] <_MoNkAbAnG_> oh my bro my know a command
[05:13] <matthewf> rather
[05:13] <barata> what is the plugin?
[05:13] <HBK> yes nUbuntu.com
[05:13] <_MoNkAbAnG_> but hes sleepig
[05:13] <HBK> nubuntu.org
[05:13] <_MoNkAbAnG_> sleeping
[05:13] <pestilence> barata, convert it using MAC to wav, then convert it to ogg
[05:13] <HBK> Ubuntu is based on the Drapper Drake Distro, right?
[05:13] <pestilence> using that link i sent you
[05:14] <barata> pestilence, I dont have MAC
[05:14] <JoseStefan> HBK, you should be fin with Ubuntu
[05:14] <pestilence> barata, so install it
[05:14] <JoseStefan> fine*
[05:14] <atsugnam> HBK, Dapper Drake is the name of the current release version
[05:14] <interstellar_ove> mebbe someone can help me out here? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1448081#post1448081
[05:14] <Xenguy> HBK: that's the latest version
[05:14] <ladydoor> HBK: errr...dapper drake is the latest release of ubuntu
[05:14] <HBK> I see
[05:14] <barata> is MAC an app?
[05:14] <pestilence> barata, http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_ape_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux
[05:14] <cee-jay> ubuntu is more like classic windows than XP, HBK; Kubuntu is more flashy but annoying to some...
[05:14] <cafuego> Just open it in Audacity and save it as Ogg.
[05:14] <Xenguy> HBK: er, stable version
[05:14] <HBK> lol I'm a newbie just learning
[05:14] <pestilence> barata, there is a howto.  click it.
[05:14] <brendonjt> hbk: dapper  is just this version  of ubuntu
[05:14] <barata> okey, thanks pestilence
[05:14] <_MoNkAbAnG_> i miss windows
[05:14] <foglight> HBK: each release has a codename, like debian does.
[05:14] <HBK> I see
[05:14] <pestilence> _MoNkAbAnG_, install vmware server, it's free.
[05:14] <atsugnam> 5.1 was "Breezy Badger"
[05:14] <_MoNkAbAnG_> it was fun
[05:14] <brendonjt> hbk: ubuntu  is based around debian
[05:14] <JoseStefan> HKB, you'll be looking for v6.06.1
[05:14] <Warbo> If you want Win98 look then ANYTHING can do that. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc.
[05:14] <godtvisk1n> How do I get gnomebaker to burt .ogg files?
[05:14] <HBK> okay I will give Ubuntu a shot but what other distro do y'all recommend?
[05:14] <foglight> next is Edgy Eft
[05:15] <Xenguy> we hope you have enjoyed the show
[05:15] <matthewf> im gonna start hurting little fluffy animals in a minute
[05:15] <Warbo> HBK: Erm... Ubuntu
[05:15] <_MoNkAbAnG_> pestilence how do i do tha
[05:15] <foglight> HBK: only Ubuntu.
[05:15] <_MoNkAbAnG_> t
[05:15] <brendonjt> hbk: ubuntu
[05:15] <basbryan> ubuntu
[05:15] <atsugnam>  HBK ubuntu twice?
[05:15] <pestilence> _MoNkAbAnG_, use the google
[05:15] <brendonjt> hbk: only ubuntu
[05:15] <_MoNkAbAnG_> ok
[05:15] <HBK> have y'all tried Suse,Blag Blag, Zen Walk and Ark
[05:15] <HBK> are they any good?
[05:15] <pestilence> _MoNkAbAnG_, there is a howto on ubuntuforums.org
[05:15] <Warbo> HBK: Well, I hear that Suse is good, and Fedora. Other than that I don't really know of ones on-par with Ubuntu
[05:15] <HBK> See sorry for troubling you all
[05:15] <HBK> but
[05:15] <atsugnam> it is, apparently, the most popular distro around now
[05:15] <HBK> all I want is just click and run thingy like windoze
[05:15] <ladydoor> HBK: it's all a matter of opinion
[05:15] <atsugnam> anything to being another into the fold ;)
[05:15] <atsugnam> bring rather
[05:15] <ladydoor> HBK: ubuntu's good for that
[05:15] <brendonjt> hbk: have a crack at ubuntu  you will like it
[05:16] <pestilence> HBK, install kubuntu.  that's what you want.
[05:16] <matthewf> HBK: i used SUSE a few years ago .. Yast = godlike hehe
[05:16] <Xenguy> I read the news today oh boy
[05:16] <pestilence> or ubuntu.
[05:16] <smwon> ok I typed sudo apt-get install -f
[05:16] <viator> ubuntu/debian have thos biggest repos
[05:16] <pestilence> they are both good.
[05:16] <viator> most packages available
[05:16] <HBK> Okay one more thing please...
[05:16] <foglight> what is the installer for non-free pacakges?
[05:16] <foglight> starts with an A
[05:16] <Xenguy> I saw the photograph
[05:16] <_MoNkAbAnG_> i will later
[05:16] <atsugnam> HBK, use the live cd first so you can see what it looks like, and then install if you like....
[05:16] <pestilence> !tell foglight about repositories
[05:16] <barata> pestilence: THANK YOU .... do you happen to know a player for ape too?
[05:16] <viator> ya dont need a special installer for nonfree things
[05:16] <viator> lol
[05:17] <pestilence> barata, no.  i just convert em
[05:17] <barata> okey
[05:17] <Warbo> HBK: What do you mean by "click 'n' run"?  Linux doesn't do that. Linux does click software, it downloads and installs itself with no reboot needed, then run it if you want
[05:17] <bengt_> Hi - managed to boot up on a cd (edgy knopp1), did a fsck on /dev/hdc1, mounted /dev/hdc1 on /mnt, tried to rm, chmod, chown /mnt/var/lib/dpk/inof/libnautilus-extensions.list    but only get's Operation not permitted.
[05:17] <brendonjt> hbk: i agree with atsugnam
[05:17] <HBK> I use this IP hider in Windoze which I need like a lot I know there is tor for Linux but I use this sockscap also which is nice, so can you run that in Ubuntu?
[05:17] <foglight> no there is a special installer
[05:17] <_MoNkAbAnG_> so is lynix better then windows i mean for real no opinoins
[05:17] <pestilence> HBK, you can run tor in ubuntu
[05:17] <Warbo> HBK: TOR will REALLY slow down your surfing
[05:18] <interstellar_ove> yes
[05:18] <foglight> don't !tell me any of your infobot notes anymore, thanks.
[05:18] <subpar> _MoNkAbAnG_: well in the end it's an opinion
[05:18] <atsugnam> _MoNkAbAnG_, that is a really, really big question.... not easy to answer
[05:18] <ladydoor> _MoNkAbAnG_: lol...that's *all* opinion. and for one thing, it's spelled "linux"
[05:18] <npodges> _MoNkAbAnG_:  you might as well ask which religion is best
[05:18] <HBK> Yes but what about using other known IP proxies which program do I use for that?
[05:18] <Warbo> TOR not only uses a different IP address, it encrypts your data both ways, and sends it all on a merry journey through Internet Town
[05:18] <interstellar_ove> the actual os is much better as far as stability and resource management goes
[05:18] <ladydoor> foglight: there really isn't. you need to enable the multiverse repository
[05:18] <_MoNkAbAnG_> thanks for your answers
[05:18] <subpar> _MoNkAbAnG_: but if you don't really like proprietary software, like the idea of a free os, a great help community, and learn more about using your computer, then yes :)
[05:18] <foglight> thre really is.
[05:18] <_MoNkAbAnG_> i dont know any of this stuff
[05:18] <matthewf> so.. looks like im at a dead end with this display isue
[05:19] <ladydoor> foglight: are you talking about automatix?
[05:19] <atsugnam> interstellar_ove, thats a yes and a no..... I still can't get nvidia drivers or wpa support to work under ubuntu
[05:19] <interstellar_ove> yeah, i tried tor once
[05:19] <interstellar_ove> it slowed my internet down to a crawl
[05:19] <foglight> yes
[05:19] <foglight> that
[05:19] <HBK> are there any P2P apps for Linux? and torrent clients?
[05:19] <pestilence> HBK, yes.
[05:19] <atsugnam> but thaey have been rockin for a long time under xp.....
[05:19] <ladydoor> foglight: that's not nonfree software in *general*, just specific packages
[05:19] <foglight> HBK: get automatix
[05:19] <Warbo> Bittorrent comes installed in Ubuntu by default
[05:19] <ajhtiredwolf_> hey
[05:19] <ladydoor> HBK: you might check out ldcpp
[05:19] <subpar> _MoNkAbAnG_: you don't even have to install it to try it.. you can download the ubuntu cd off the website
[05:19] <ladydoor> HBK: and bittornado
[05:19] <HBK> wow! by default!
[05:19] <|thunder> hey everyone, i read somewhere the other day that you can edit a firefox file that contains the flash version your using, It said you could change it from 7 to 9 and get most of the flash9 site working. I seem to have lost the link and can't remember where I read it. Is any of this familiar to anyone?
[05:19] <interstellar_ove> frostwire - limewire for linux
[05:19] <subpar> and run it from your CD-Rom and try it out first
[05:19] <Warbo> !info gtk-gnutella
[05:19] <_MoNkAbAnG_> brb
[05:19] <npodges> hbk, you can get limewire or the open source frostwire
[05:19] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1956 kB, installed size 6988 kB
[05:19] <Warbo> !info mldonkey-server
[05:19] <interstellar_ove> frostwire.com
[05:19] <bengt_> Do anyone have a suggestion for how to remove a directory on hd  (which refuses to be deleted). Are currently running on live-cd, not hd.
[05:19] <ubotu> mldonkey-server: Door to the 'donkey' network. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2900 kB, installed size 7960 kB
[05:19] <Warbo> !info amule
[05:19] <smwon> pestilenence
[05:19] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[05:20] <Warbo> There are loads
[05:20] <pestilence> |thunder, yes...
[05:20] <interstellar_ove> i'd go for frostwire
[05:20] <ajhtiredwolf_> i just got ubuntu (love it btw) are tehre any tutorials for getting things to install with firefox? Like mplayer and flash and what not, and installing codecs for mplayer
[05:20] <pestilence> |thunder, it was on digg.  search there
[05:20] <smwon> what do I do after sudo apt-get install -f
[05:20] <_MoNkAbAnG_> i have six boxes of the cds lol
[05:20] <pestilence> smwon, it didn't fix your problem?
[05:20] <HBK> okay everyone many thanks for the help I will put in Ubuntu and Kubuntu Live CD's and see which looks better
[05:20] <Warbo> !restricted > ajhtiredwolf_
[05:20] <npodges> !info automatix
[05:20] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in any distro I know
[05:20] <interstellar_ove> hell, you can even get limewire for linux
[05:20] <JoseStefan> !azureus
[05:20] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:20] <TheGame> any1 here know why rhythmbox crashes on me 24/7
[05:20] <|thunder> pestilence, I did search there. can you remember the title of the digg ?
[05:20] <phenol> dude the better p2p run off linux. ofcourse there's going to be a client.
[05:20] <smwon> That is as far as I got
[05:20] <Warbo> HBK: You can install KDE or GNOME in each other, it doesn't matter which you install
[05:20] <smwon> this hard to follow
[05:20] <pestilence> |thunder, no.  i would try flash linux 9
[05:20] <smwon> in here
[05:20] <HBK> Just one more thing can you use NTFS formatted drive in Ubuntu?
[05:21] <phenol> hbk, yes
[05:21] <interstellar_ove> i had easy nvidia linux install
[05:21] <HBK> ok thanks
[05:21] <interstellar_ove> HBK: you can read but not write
[05:21] <Warbo> HBK: Yes. Reading works right off, but you may have to do a little more work to enable writing
[05:21] <iLikeSpoons> phenol, can you WRITE to it?
[05:21] <pestilence> |thunder, it was basically editing your ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat and changing 7 to 9 on the "flash" line
[05:21] <phenol> the answer to most of your "can do" questions are yes
[05:21] <_MoNkAbAnG_> i have limeware on my comp
[05:21] <cee-jay> HBK, you could just see screenshots for comparison before downloading the whole CDs
[05:21] <ajhtiredwolf_> lol, theres so many peopel talking i cant see if you answered my question or not
[05:21] <HBK> which is the default filesystem of Ubuntu? FAT32?
[05:21] <jbroome_> ext3
[05:21] <Warbo> HBK: WHAT? No!
[05:21] <BlueEagle> hbk: ext3
[05:21] <Warbo> Ext3 is default, I use ReiserFS
[05:22] <HBK> I saw the screenshots I can't really tell from them.
[05:22] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: they'll usually say your nick
[05:22] <|thunder> pestilence, I cant find it on digg still, but ill have a look into the firefox dir.
[05:22] <Warbo> FAT32==Very bad
[05:22] <pestilence> smwon, so...did it fix your problem?  is the program installed?
[05:22] <|thunder> pestilence, thanks
[05:22] <interstellar_ove> ext3
[05:22] <bengt_> Do anyone have a suggestion for how to remove a directory on hd  (which refuses to be deleted). Are currently running on live-cd, not hd
[05:22] <ajhtiredwolf_> right, so yeah anyone know about that?
[05:22] <viator> i use resizefs
[05:22] <pestilence> |thunder, http://digg.com/linux_unix/Flash_9_for_Ubuntu
[05:22] <ladydoor> !repeat
[05:22] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:22] <smwon> It didn't do anything except tell me again it was interupted
[05:22] <interstellar_ove> i almost went for rieserfs
[05:22] <HBK> I have a NTFS formatted USB drive can I install Ubuntu in it straight away?
[05:22] <cee-jay> HBK, ext3 requires no dreadful defragmenting  <-- very cool
[05:22] <phenol> anyone know of a good bluetooth howto? (for treo 650/700) if possible
[05:22] <interstellar_ove> but used ext3 instead
[05:22] <leoncamel> hi, folks.
[05:22] <HBK> will it format it for me to ext3?
[05:22] <subpar> _MoNkAbAnG_: limewire is bad
[05:22] <Warbo> HBK: You can either format over the NTFS, or shrink it (Ubuntu installer helps you do this)
[05:23] <|thunder> pestilence, thats it. thanks a million
[05:23] <leoncamel> I want insall gcc-3.2 on my ubuntu 5.10. what shall I do ?
[05:23] <pestilence> smwon, sounds like the package you are trying to install is broken....what package is it?
[05:23] <interstellar_ove> HBK: you won't be able to put files onto it
[05:23] <cee-jay> ubuntu can read (and be made to write to) NTFS partitions
[05:23] <ajhtiredwolf_> !search firefox
[05:23] <pestilence> |thunder, np.
[05:23] <_MoNkAbAnG_> how is it bad
[05:23] <smwon> dpkg
[05:23] <HBK> ok thanks again
[05:23] <BlueEagle> hbk: as always when managing partitions be sure to have backup of ALL important data.
[05:23] <brendonjt> hbk: yip i can format i for you the installer that is
[05:23] <pestilence> smwon, you were trying to install dpkg? that sounds unlikely
[05:23] <HBK> and just one more thing
[05:23] <subpar> _MoNkAbAnG_: it's full of spyware/viruses, etc... that sh&t will slow your compy down bad, more than windows does by itself
[05:23] <phenol> anyone know of a good bluetooth howto? (for treo 650/700) if possible
[05:23] <interstellar_ove> i like frostwire - mod of limewire source w/ out pro lags
[05:23] <Warbo> I don't like Limewire. It is far too bloated for a pretty simple job. GTK-Gnutella is very nice
[05:23] <smwon> I lost power while it was installing
[05:24] <ladydoor> !repeat > phenol
[05:24] <kishore> how to remove hda1 icon on the desctop
[05:24] <_MoNkAbAnG_> alright
[05:24] <ajhtiredwolf_> i just got ubuntu (love it btw) are tehre any tutorials for getting things to install with firefox? Like mplayer and flash and what not, and installing codecs for mplayer
[05:24] <interstellar_ove> also g2p.org using google to find free mp3
[05:24] <interstellar_ove> i get a lot of songs from there
[05:24] <_MoNkAbAnG_> hold on
[05:24] <ladydoor> !bluetooth > phenol
[05:24] <subpar> I prefer torrents myself
[05:24] <phenol> !bluetooth
[05:24] <smwon> and so now I have to manually run dpkg --configure -a'
[05:24] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:24] <ladydoor> !codecs
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <pestilence> smwon, oh....did you do that?
[05:24] <phenol> thanks sorry
[05:24] <HBK> I use my Nokia 6630 cell phone to connect to internet via the usb data cable...how do I get it to run in Ubuntu? there is no driver for that
[05:24] <pestilence> smwon, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:24] <smwon> No, I don't know how
[05:24] <bengt_> ladydoor: Thanks for noticing my question... :)
[05:24] <pestilence> smwon, type that into a command line
[05:24] <matthewf> ok well i give up on this display issue for now, time to go bash some Orcs in everquestII
[05:25] <Warbo> HBK: Does it have Bluetooth? I have had good experience with using 'phone as modem via Bluetooth, but have never tried USB
[05:25] <ladydoor> bengt_: np. try sudo. why do you want to remove a dir on the cd?
[05:25] <leoncamel> hi, folks. Is there anybody know how to install gcc-3.2 on ubuntu-5.10 ?
[05:25] <smwon> ok done that
[05:25] <HBK> I have N-Gage which supports thru bluetooth but my bluetooth Adaptor is of Mitsumi there is no driver's for it
[05:25] <Warbo> !info gcc-3.2 breezy
[05:25] <BlueEagle> hbk: what shows up on lsusb?
[05:25] <viator> isnt gcc 3.2 on there by default>
[05:25] <ubotu> Package gcc-3.2 does not exist in breezy
[05:25] <_MoNkAbAnG_> limewire delete self
[05:26] <pestilence> smwon, then run sudo apt-get install -f
[05:26] <_MoNkAbAnG_> *limewire is now gone*
[05:26] <bobovski> on the off chance...does anyone know how to rebuild the tetex database so that new packages are found?
[05:26] <_MoNkAbAnG_> good
[05:26] <pestilence> smwon, that should resume the installation
[05:26] <letsgfuad> jikante: thanks for the help
[05:26] <_MoNkAbAnG_> its gone
[05:26] <Warbo> HBK: Isn't there? I thought pretty much every Bluetooth device used the same chipset
[05:26] <interstellar_ove> ajtiredwolf_:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:26] <bengt_> ladydoor: Not from the cd... a directory that has weird owner, and should actually be a file. Could not do anything from the hd, so booted up cd to try and do it from there... no difference..
[05:26] <smwon> didn't work
[05:26] <godtvisk1n> Why can't I burn .ogg files with gnomebaker? I can burn mp3s..
[05:26] <pestilence> bobovski, i think you can dpkg-reconfigure one of the tetex packages
[05:26] <interstellar_ove> make sure you update your sources before doing anything else
[05:26] <ladydoor> bengt_: try sudo
[05:26] <bengt_> ladydoor: will try a bit more... after that... reinstall :(
[05:26] <pestilence> bobovski, maybe dpkg-reconfigure tetex-bin or tetex-extras
[05:26] <ladydoor> bengt_: what dir is it again?
[05:26] <HBK> driver for Ubuntu for N-Gage bluetooth modem, nokia 6101 data cable modem and Mitsumi bluetooth adaptor. How about do I get those drivers?
[05:27] <smwon> still says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:27] <pestilence> HBK, they are probably just included.
[05:27] <ladydoor> bengt_: and why does it bother you?
[05:27] <johny5> Anyone here willing neverwinter nights?
[05:27] <brendonjt> brb
[05:27] <leoncamel> Warbo, hey. what do you mean "!info" ?
[05:27] <bengt_> ladydoor: sudo chown, sudo chmod, sudo rm -fr, sudo rmdir... all gives "Operation not permitted"
[05:27] <BlueEagle> bengt_: why is it so important that the directory be removed again?
[05:27] <ladydoor> bengt_: again, what dir is it, and why does it bother you so much?
[05:27] <JoseStefan> !info gcc-3.3 breezy
[05:27] <ubotu> gcc-3.3: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), package size 535 kB, installed size 4264 kB
[05:27] <HBK> ok I will run the ubuntu thing then now and talk to you all thru Ubuntu!
[05:27] <Warbo> HBK: By the way, usually going to manufacturers' websites for drivers is a waste of time. Most drivers are developed openly and are already in Ubuntu, other than that they are mainly third-party things
[05:28] <bengt_> BlueEagle: ladydoor trying to upgrade to dapper from breezy, and aptitude complaints on this libnautilus-extension.list file
[05:28] <leoncamel> !info gcc-3.2 breezy
[05:28] <ubotu> Package gcc-3.2 does not exist in breezy
[05:28] <sethk> bengt_, until you are able to change the ownership, nothing else will work, and you are just wasting your time
[05:28] <leoncamel> Warbo, and what shall I do next ?
[05:28] <HBK> bye and thank you
[05:28] <bobovski> pestilence: hmmm, "almost" worked...let me see if I can just find the package in the repository
[05:28] <sethk> bengt_, you can't remove it unless you own it.  root can change ownership, but root _cannot_ remove something it doesn't own
[05:28] <Warbo> leoncamel: It seems that it doesn't exist in Breezy. I don't know what to suggest
[05:29] <pestilence> sethk, that is not true.
[05:29] <bengt_> sethk: well, root could not change ownership of this one :( .... :(
[05:29] <JoseStefan> leoncamel, would 3.3 be good enough?
[05:29] <ladydoor> sethk: errr...yes it can. i've removed things from my home dir, owned by me, as root before
[05:29] <sethk> pestilence, yes, that is.  try it.
[05:29] <kitche> sthk: root can remove anything
[05:29] <pestilence> sethk, root can remove anything.
[05:29] <sethk> pestilence, no
[05:29] <ladydoor> sethk: root is all-powerful. lol
[05:29] <sethk> pestilence, look at the specs
[05:29] <kitche> sethk: it can delete your whole system if you want to
[05:29] <sethk> if, in fact, that happened, it's a POSIX violation
[05:29] <ladydoor> sethk: look at the definition of the root user
[05:29] <sethk> kitche, yes, it can own anything, but first it must own it
[05:30] <smwon> pestilence... it didn't work
[05:30] <ladydoor> sethk: do this. in your home dir, do touch testfile
[05:30] <leoncamel> JoseStefan, hmm, I have original librarys which alreay compiled by redhat 9. its gcc version is gcc-3.2.
[05:30] <kitche> sethk: no it can remove everything from a system
[05:30] <ladydoor> sethk: then do sudo rm testfile
[05:30] <pip> The Internet Configration programme shows that the Netcard is Broadcom Tigon3 but the real netcard is not that,why?
[05:30] <pestilence> sethk, i can tell you from personal experience, this is completely untrue
[05:30] <sethk> ladydoor, I am well aware of it.  It's possible that you are talking about a linux violation, but POSIX is extremely clear
[05:30] <ladydoor> sethk: just try it, please
[05:30] <mluu510> how do i check what version of compiz i have?
[05:30] <smwon> It stil saqys E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:30] <sethk> ladydoor, I did, before saying anything
[05:30] <Warbo> ladydoor: You realise that sudo is not root?
[05:30] <JoseStefan> sethk, root does not need permission to take action over a file
[05:30] <sethk> ladydoor, you aren't taking into account permissions on parent directories
[05:30] <cwillu> I'm I silly for thinking I can bind different actions to Tab and Control-Tab in bash?
[05:30] <subpar> hey fellas... I have a hard drive in my computer that I need both ubuntu and windows to be able to read and write to
[05:30] <ladydoor> Warbo: i've also done it in su
[05:30] <leoncamel> JoseStefan, So. If I install gcc-3.2 on ubuntu. I needn't reinstall the whole system.
[05:30] <pestilence> sethk, on ubuntu, with superuser priveleges, you should be able to remove anything.
[05:30] <subpar> whats my best bet
[05:30] <sethk> JoseStefan, not when it does not own upper directory levels of the tree
[05:30] <cwillu> I'm = Am (doh)
[05:30] <ladydoor> sethk: i own my home dir, not root
[05:31] <sethk> pestilence, no.  it was a major change when posix came out.  read it.
[05:31] <Warbo> ladydoor: Just making sure you understood (that's why we have gksudo)
[05:31] <sethk> ladydoor, root owns the ROOT of your home directory
[05:31] <pestilence> sethk, take me to the water, i'll drink
[05:31] <ladydoor> sethk: it *used* to. then i chowned it to me
[05:31] <sethk> pestilence, really, check the posix check
[05:31] <pestilence> i'm just telling you from my experience.  with sudo, i can rm -rf /  <-- don't do this
[05:31] <sethk> the posix spec
[05:31] <Warbo> subpar: FAT32 can be read/written by Ubuntu and Windows. Ext3 can if you install a driver in Windows
[05:31] <sethk> pestilence, absolutely, because root owns /
[05:32] <pestilence> sethk, but not all subdirectories
[05:32] <kitche> sthk: posix doesn't have anything to do with user accounts it more meant for API's
[05:32] <subpar> really
[05:32] <viator> root can just chown it back
[05:32] <viator> lol
[05:32] <subpar> alright, thanks :):)
[05:32] <sethk> pestilence, true, but that's not what I said
[05:32] <johny5> Well, if anyone can help, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06, on an Athlon 2100XP, GeForce 440mx.  I installed Neverwinter Nights with the Raven installer and updated it to version 1.66.  When I try to run it, it switches to a black screen and locks, I have to alt+ctrl+backspace to get out of it.
[05:32] <kitche> sethk: posix doesn't have anything to do with user accounts it more meant for API's
[05:32] <sethk> pestilence, I said that the problem we are talking about, he will never be able to erase because of the ownership
[05:32] <pestilence> sethk, well, on the default ubuntu system, root ALWAYS owns /
[05:32] <ladydoor> sethk: ok, seriously. make an empty file in your home dir (or a subdir of your home dir) and then su to root and remove it
[05:32] <pestilence> sethk, maybe i missed something.
[05:32] <ladydoor> sethk: it *will* work
[05:32] <sethk> kitche, that's completely false.  POSIX has a complete shell specification, and permissions are part of the shell
[05:32] <Warbo> In my experience root has the capability to do anything, but restrictions still apply. For example read-only files are still read-only, just that root is allowed to make them writable
[05:33] <bobovski> pestilence: dpkg-reconfigure tetex-base worked. thanks!
[05:33] <sethk> Warbo, correct, that's another good example
[05:33] <cwillu> How do I bind a command to Control-Tab in bash?  bind 'control-tab: complete' seems to collide with bind 'tab:  menu-complete'
[05:33] <pestilence> bobovski, np
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf_> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[05:33] <sethk> root can't remove it, if it's read only, root must first change the permissions
[05:33] <Warbo> Therefore read-only restriction applies, but root is still capable of writing to read-only files
[05:33] <sethk> root can change any permission, but if the permission is wrong, root cannot remove
[05:33] <Warbo> (by chaning them to read-enabled)
[05:33] <hyperstream> can alsa support two sound cards? one onbard and one pci ?
[05:33] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: hey I just decided to install ubuntu on my laptop, and I like it but im having a problem installing flash for firefox
[05:33] <sethk> Warbo, that's true, although that's also a posix violation.  I think zsh fixes it.
[05:33] <hyperstream> or one uses oss and one uses alsa?
[05:33] <ladydoor> !flash
[05:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <JoseStefan> sethk, so you are saying that if i create a folder, and remove all permission 0000, root wont be able to remove it?
[05:34] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, what's happening?
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf_> I get this E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[05:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, root cannot remove it if it is read only,
[05:34] <sethk> JoseStefan, try it.
[05:34] <Warbo> Anyway, this doesn't seem to be getting sound working in my Realplayer :(
[05:34] <sethk> Warbo, true
[05:34] <ladydoor> JoseStefan: i just tried it and it worked.
[05:34] <sethk> :)
[05:34] <loktai> Can anyone explain why my Belkin F5D7050 card isn't working after following the instructions on http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Rt2x00drivers
[05:34] <kitche> sethl: yep I just removed a file
[05:34] <ladydoor> JoseStefan: root was able to remove it
[05:34] <pestilence> sethk, if this were #posix, i might agree with you.  but this is #ubuntu which uses bash, and perhaps violates some posix spec.  but root can rm -rf / and it will wipe everyhing, read-only or no
[05:34] <hyperstream> can alsa support two sound cards? one onbard and one pci ?   or one uses oss and one uses alsa?   (So i can use xmms on one) while i use the other for teamspeak while ingame ? )
[05:34] <Warbo> I might download the last package, since that had sound (but no video)
[05:34] <ladydoor> sethk: seriously, try the stuff you're saying
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[05:35] <viator> realplayer?
[05:35] <irawan> ajhtiredwolf_> make sure the sources.list is correct
[05:35] <viator> heh
[05:35] <ladydoor> !realplayer
[05:35] <Warbo> !info realplay
[05:35] <sethk> pestilence, I don't use bash, I'll have to check it.  bash has awful compliance
[05:35] <hyperstream> loktai, i gave up a long time ago :)
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <ajhtiredwolf_> irawan: how do i go about doing that?
[05:35] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:35] <viator> use mplayer it plays all those codecs
[05:35] <pestilence> sethk, that may be, but ubuntu defaults to bash.  so almost everyone here uses it ;)
[05:35] <Warbo> viator: I hate realplayer, but it is the only player I have found which can skip through realmedia streams
[05:35] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, you checked the obvious, which is that non-free repositories are enabled in your sources.list?
[05:35] <letsgfuad> viator: can you help me get mplayer working?
[05:35] <kitche> sthk: only shell that supports POSIX is korn shell which about 0 distros use by default
[05:35] <JoseStefan> sethk, ladydoor: worked here too
[05:35] <letsgfuad> how do i get the codecs?
[05:35] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: no how do i do that?
[05:35] <ladydoor> !codecs
[05:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:35] <loktai> hyperstream: I'm still working on it - tried ndiswrapper to no avail, now i'm trying to figure out where the CVS repository is to get rt2570 drivers downloaded
 look at the links provided by ubotu
[05:36] <viator> letsgfuad whats wrong?
[05:36] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, look in /etc/apt/sources.list, look for lines beginning with # (commented out)
[05:36] <bengt_> anything special I need to do to remove a "setuid sticky directory" ?
[05:36] <letsgfuad> well first i cant get mplayer working, so i got kmplayer working with xfce
[05:36] <loktai> hyperstream: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240349&highlight=rt2570
[05:36] <letsgfuad> viator: it said it had a problem w/ one of the libs
[05:36] <irawan> ajhtiredwolf_: you can try http://ubuntuguide.com too
[05:36] <sethk> which lines in sources.list are for not necessarily free software?
[05:37] <kitche> ladydoor: well posix standards aren't even posted on the net, so who knows what the standard truly says
[05:37] <pestilence> sethk, multiverse
[05:37] <Warbo> What is the address of the commercial repo?
[05:37] <viator> mplayer gives me errors somtimes but i ignore them and it works fine its buggy
[05:37] <sethk> bengt_, change the permissions to not be sticky
[05:37] <ladydoor> sethk: multiverse
[05:37] <sethk> pestilence, thanks
[05:37] <sethk> ladydoor, thanks
[05:37] <ladydoor> kitche: lol. you're preaching to the choir
[05:37] <letsgfuad> viator: how do i get the codecs?
[05:37] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: ive always used kedit but that doesnt seem to work in ubuntu what else can i use?
[05:37] <viator> do you have all the appropriate codecs
[05:37] <irawan> ajhtiredwolf_: sorry, should be .org not .com
[05:37] <ladydoor> kitche: tell sethk that
[05:37] <ajhtiredwolf_> irawan: thanks man
[05:37] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, gedit, if you installed gnome
[05:37] <viator> letsgfuad do you have a stock sources.list?
[05:37] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: im using kubuntu
[05:37] <bengt_> sethk: chmod 0000 <file> --> operation not permitted.... Take it I need to reinstall...
[05:37] <letsgfuad> no i have them all availible
[05:37] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, use vim
[05:38] <letsgfuad> so i removed the #
[05:38] <Marsmensch> why i can't use | to give an argument to tail in ubuntu?
[05:38] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, use nano if you are desparate
[05:38] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: nano is better for a beginner
[05:38] <viator> do you have the plf repos etc?
[05:38] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: sudo nano -w
[05:38] <sethk> Marsmensch, you can.  give us the line you are trying to use
[05:38] <cwillu> Marsmensch, what's the command you're trying?
[05:38] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: nm gedit works
[05:38] <letsgfuad> viator: i have no clue what those are
[05:38] <viator> did you make one from the source o matic site?
[05:38] <pip> there are 2 netcards in my computer one is enthnet ,the other is wireless ,but why can't I see the wirless card in the Network Device programme ?
[05:38] <ladydoor> viator: they aren't enabled by defaut, but i can give you the link
[05:38] <Warbo> AHA! Commercial repo is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[05:38] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: it should be gedit source.list?
[05:38] <pestilence> pip, maybe the wireless card doesn't work with the ubuntu modules.
[05:39] <loktai> pip: that's the problem i'm having too
[05:39] <DARKGuy> greetings, is there a way I can set a variable to be active in -all- linux? dunno if I explain myself... I need to do "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1", but I don't want to edit every file in /usr/bin to have that line, so what would I do in this case then?
[05:39] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: while in /etc/apt/ ?
[05:39] <sethk> bengt_, if you can boot a live cd and mount the file system, I think you'll be able to chown and chmod it to the point where you can erase it.
[05:39] <letsgfuad> viator: nope
[05:39] <pestilence> pip, run (from a terminal) iwconfig
[05:39] <ladydoor> viator: did you get those?
[05:39] <sethk> ajhtiredwolf_, the file?  /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:39] <Marsmensch> month=`head -c 5 datetemp | tail -c 2`;
[05:39] <viator> go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:39] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: first, back up your sources.list
[05:39] <pip> loktai, I am using redhat
[05:39] <loktai> pestilence: do you know how to install a wireless usb?
[05:39] <sethk> bengt_, if you don't mind installing, that will work definitely  :)
[05:39] <bengt_> sethk: unfortunately, that is where I am now... I booted edgy live, mounted hdc1 on /mnt, and am working under /mnt...
[05:39] <letsgfuad> k thanks
[05:39] <ajhtiredwolf_> sethk: yeah i did cd /etc/apt/ then i did gedit source.list
[05:39] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[05:39] <viator> ignore the kde stuff unless you want/have kde
[05:39] <phenol> ok i'm having problems with the bluetooth installation
[05:39] <pestilence> loktai, not from personal experience, but i would guess you might have to use ndiswrapper
[05:39] <sethk> bengt_, you may have to chown all the parent directories
[05:39] <shinta42> what's the proper procedure to go on recompile a module?
[05:39] <pestilence> !tell loktai about ndiswrapper
[05:40] <loktai> heh
[05:40] <pip> pestilence, no such command
[05:40] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: <alt>f2 gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list <enter>
[05:40] <bengt_> sethk: :) I figured that... nothing fancy on this one, just my mythtv box
[05:40] <loktai> pestilence: I tried that
[05:40] <pestilence> pip, hrmm :-/  iwconfig should come with ubuntu.
[05:40] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: after *backing up* your sources.list
[05:40] <DARKGuy> anybody?
[05:40] <phenol> it says Host down
[05:40] <phenol> Can't get device information: Host is down
[05:40] <Marsmensch> sethk, cwillu this line worked with debian fine, unfortunal it doesn't work with ubuntu
[05:40] <sethk> bengt_, if you don't mind reinstalling, then reinstall.  if you want to figure it out, probably you can eventually
[05:40] <Warbo> Bah, there is only 1 .deb available for Realplayer, and it is the one which isn't working
[05:40] <sethk> Marsmensch, that makes no sense, same shell
[05:40] <pip> pestilence, so with redhat ....?
[05:40] <pestilence> pip, /sbin/iwconfig ?
[05:40] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor: says "sudo: command not found
[05:40] <sethk> Marsmensch, possibly different options.  what's the line?
[05:40] <pestilence> pip, with redhat, you hit up #redhat
[05:41] <episteme73> is compix compatible with automatrix on a 64bit install?
[05:41] <pestilence> pip, or #fedorea
[05:41] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: ok. a) did you back up the file
[05:41] <pestilence> or whatever :)
[05:41] <sethk> Marsmensch, use zsh, when bash messes up zsh works well
[05:41] <Marsmensch> sethk: MONTH=`head -c 5 dateemp | tail -c 2`;
[05:41] <shinta42> can anyone tell me the proper procedure to go on recompile a module?
[05:41] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor: i logged out of root it seems to be working onw
[05:41] <DARKGuy> *repeats* => Greetings, is there a way I can set a variable to be active in -all- linux? dunno if I explain myself... I need to do "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1", but I don't want to edit every file in /usr/bin to have that line, so what would I do in this case then?
[05:41] <Botty> I'm on the ubuntu installer now
[05:41] <sethk> Marsmensch, don't use back ticks, they are a c shell anachronism.  use   $(head .... )
[05:41] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: b) did you do *gksudo* gedit /etc/apt/sources.list from that dialog i told you how to open up?
[05:41] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: yeah, you shouldn't be logged in as root :-)
[05:41] <ladydoor> !repeat > DARKGuy
[05:42] <Botty> If there is a Warning symbol (yellow triangle, exclamation mark) on the manual partition thing, what does that mean?
[05:42] <sethk> Marsmensch, try the inner command first, make sure it is doing what you expect
[05:42] <Marsmensch> sethk:  how do you mean that?
[05:42] <pip> pestilence, [pip@localhost sbin] $ ./iwconfig
[05:42] <pip> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <pip> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <pip> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor: ok its open now
[05:42] <brendonjt> back
[05:42] <JoseStefan> !paste > pip
[05:42] <Botty> for some reason my shared fat32 thing has 'boot' flag as well as that warning symbol
[05:42] <pestilence> pip, your wireless card was not automatically configured
[05:42] <ladydoor> Botty: it means that it's helpful if you know what you're doing. if you need any help, feel free to ask
[05:42] <Botty> hehe
[05:42] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: gedit is? sweet.
[05:42] <sethk> Marsmensch, in your line, try     head -c 5 dateemp | tail -c 2    by itself, first
[05:42] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor: yes sir
[05:42] <Botty> I think I may have stuck gedit stage 1/1.5 on my shared fat32 partition
[05:43] <Botty> doh
[05:43] <pestilence> pip, first iteration: install ubuntu.  then come back
[05:43] <Botty> I mean grub
[05:43] <Botty> lol
[05:43] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor: what should i be looking for?
[05:43] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: uh...neither lady nor the name "door" are normally associated with me
[05:43] <pip> pestilence, how do deal with that problem ?
[05:43] <Marsmensch> one moment
[05:43] <ladydoor> n
[05:43] <MistaED> DARKGuy: i personally wouldn't recommend setting that system-wide as some programs have a problem without that visual, but i believe putting it at the end of your .bashrc in your home directory will do the thing you want
[05:43] <shinta42> pestilence:can you tell me how to recompile a kernel module?
[05:43] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: what're you trying to do again? uncomment repositories?
[05:43] <Marsmensch> sethk: i try, mom
[05:43] <pestilence> shinta42, what module?
[05:43] <pip> pestilence, But I am using redhat
[05:43] <ladydoor> ajhtiredwolf_: (i.e., i'm not a man)
[05:43] <pestilence> pip, ubuntu > redhat ;)
[05:43] <Botty> Anyway, do you think I can resize this fat32 partition safely?
[05:43] <viator> goto #redhat
[05:43] <ajhtiredwolf_> ladydoor:  im trying to install flash in firefox
[05:43] <viator> the