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[01:07] <xnox> cyphermox, slangasek: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#console-setup do we need to hin console-setup-freebsd over? or do we need not to build it at all?
[01:11] <cyphermox> xnox: I'm removing it
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[11:01] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, missing build on s390x: binutils, binutils-dev, binutils-multiarch, binutils-multiarch-dev (from 2.29-5ubuntu1)
[11:01] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, ^^^ NBS in proposed?
[11:10] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, can we please move to proposed kmymoney for qt to go a little bit further? rationale: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871373
[11:14] <xnox> apw, Could you please NBS clean in proposed console-setup-freebsd ?
[11:39] <xnox> doko, looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/s390x/binutils was the right s390x version got deleted? i thought ...3 was good?
[11:40] <xnox> doko, or on #ubuntu-devel >_<
[13:58] <xnox> slangasek, due to bug 1712831 can openvswitch be bad-tested on i386 only?
[13:58] <xnox> such that e.g. kmod can migrate
[14:00] <xnox> cpaelzer, ^^^
[14:01]  * cpaelzer reading
[14:01] <cpaelzer> thanks for the ping xnox
[14:02] <cpaelzer> yeah might be a good temporary workaround, yet we have to make sure it is not forgotten and becomes permanent
[14:21] <doko> xnox: I'm upload one more. maybe the removal command was run too late?
[14:22] <cjwatson> doko: you don't need to reupload
[14:22] <cjwatson> doko: FWIW when removing it's a good idea to specify a version
[14:23] <cjwatson> doko: but if you haven't uploaded already, we can just copy it back in
[14:23] <doko> ok, that would be good
[14:23] <cjwatson> I will do so
[14:23] <doko> ta
[14:24] <cjwatson> done
[14:46] <cyphermox> could someone please let console-setup through? that console-setup-freebsd removal was missing from the merge (my bad), removed again
[14:46] <cyphermox> it's currently blocked in excuses because consoel-setup-freebsd is missing
[15:29] <acheronuk> slangasek: now I've had a proper look, I can see 2 more packages that need their old s390x and ppc64 binaries deleted as the new qtwebengine requirement makes them unbuildable there
[15:29] <acheronuk> kalgebra & ktp-text-ui
[15:30] <acheronuk> I *think* that is the last of them
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[15:37] <doko> and just promoted binutils-s390x-linux-gnu ...
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[15:47] <doko> should qtubuntu be promoted again?
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[15:48] <doko> seeded by supported-kiosk
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[15:49] <slangasek> doko: I'm aware of no reason not to re-promote it
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[15:50] <doko> ok, thenI'm doing it
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[15:57] <slangasek> xnox: for a bug like that I'd rather skiptest openvswitch than bad-test it.  This is dpdk?
[15:58] <xnox> slangasek, sorry I'm not familiar with skiptest/badtest semantics difference. Whatever is appropriate. What I'm tyring to fix is these two cases:
[15:59] <xnox> dpdk triggers openswitch which fails on i386
[15:59] <xnox> kmod triggers openvswithc which fails on i386
[16:00] <rbasak> Mini FFe request: ahasenack has been working on a squid3 merge but held up by a gcc7 related FTBFS. He's almost ready for sponsorship and upload. The merge would only include one very minor functional change: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-squid/pkg-squid3.git/commit/?id=710982a8fb26a4a949f48812847cc13b1c17a3ca
[16:00] <rbasak> But we don't think we'll manage the upload today.
[16:00] <rbasak> Could a release team member please ack this to upload if within the next week or so?
[16:00] <rbasak> All other changes that would land are bugfixes.
[16:01] <rbasak> So this is really a technicality IMHO, but one that requires ~ubuntu-release to ack.
[16:01] <rbasak> All other changes coming from Debian are at: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-squid/pkg-squid3.git/log/
[16:01] <rbasak> From 3.5.23-1 through 3.5.23-5.
[16:02] <cpaelzer> slangasek: it is openvswitch on i386 - dpdk/kmod are only triggers
[16:02] <cpaelzer> ah I just see xnox mentioned that, but I wanted to answer fast before the worng one get's skipped
[16:03] <slangasek> cpaelzer, xnox: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/openvswitch/artful/i386 shows it just succeeded
[16:03] <cpaelzer> ja I hit retry often enough it seems :-/
[16:03] <cpaelzer> god for me but bad enough for the case, as I've seen kmode retried like 6 times
[16:03] <cpaelzer> +o
[16:04] <cpaelzer> slangasek: well I hit retry once, but you see in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/openvswitch/artful/i386 what I mean
[16:04] <slangasek> yes
[16:04] <xnox> win =)
[16:04]  * xnox retries harder?!
[16:06] <slangasek> acheronuk: {kalgebra,ktp-text-ui}/{ppc64el,s390x} removals done
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[16:09]  * ahasenack -> lunch, will read backlog when back
[16:11] <acheronuk> slangasek: thank you
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[16:42] <slangasek> xnox: per email I believe content-hub is to be removed, but I don't see a removal bug for it - can you open one?
[16:44] <Laney> can someone demote fwupd-tests maybe? component-mismatch but I don't see any reason that it has to be in main.
[16:44] <Laney> (artful-proposed)
[16:44] <slangasek> Laney: done
[16:45] <Laney> thx
[16:45] <slangasek> (that was probably just binary-follows-source defaulting for a new package)
[16:45] <Laney> nod, I guessed that was probably it
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[17:07] <slangasek> qtubuntu uploaded to drop content-hub support
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[17:14] <slangasek> xnox: ignore previous request, I'm filing the bug
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[17:31] <tkamppeter> How does it work with the -proposed migration? Poppler and QPDF have new sonames, who does all the no-change rebuilds of the reverse-dependencies.
[17:31] <tkamppeter> ?
[17:34] <slangasek> hngh, removed webbrowser-app before its revdeps by mistake; hopefully readding means britney won't break artful by trading uninstallables
[17:34] <slangasek> tkamppeter: some Ubuntu developer who is tracking proposed-migration does the rebuilds.  This is already done for both of those libraries
[17:35] <tkamppeter> OK, then these two libs (and so also cups-filters) will pass into the release soon?
[17:35] <tkamppeter> slangasek, or is there something else still blocking them?
[17:36] <slangasek> tkamppeter: Qt5.9, which I believe I mentioned the other day
[17:37] <tkamppeter> OK, and this will still need longer time?
[17:38] <slangasek> yes
[17:38] <slangasek> it's actively worked on
[17:40] <tkamppeter> OK.
[17:47] <slangasek> once again, I am left with doubts as to whether processing these removals is any faster than porting the code. :P
[17:54] <mitya57> slangasek, I won’t mind if someone ported ubuntu-ui-toolkit, but that requires someone with deep code knowledge, as it heavily uses QML and QML Compiler internals for instance.
[17:55] <mitya57> slangasek, So thanks for taking care of these removals!
[17:56] <acheronuk> how did kalgebra 17.04.3 migrate? it depends libqt5core5a (>= 5.9.0~beta)
[17:57] <slangasek> acheronuk: I don't see that it has migrated; did you get mail saying it did?
[17:58] <nacc> it's in artful release per rmadison
[17:58] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kalgebra/4:17.04.3-0ubuntu1
[17:58] <slangasek> @yay
[17:58] <acheronuk> Artful 	release 59 minutes ago
[17:59] <slangasek> that one isn't my fault at least, that's before my webbrowser-app screw-up ;)
[18:00] <acheronuk> weird
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[18:48] <slangasek> xnox: did you look at the ubuntu-app-launch dep chain? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1711204/comments/17
[18:49] <doko> slangasek: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iprutils/+bug/1417608: which package should pull that into main?
[18:49] <slangasek> xnox: you mentioned you'd like content-hub to drop libubuntu-app-launch3-dev build-dep, but there are other revdeps
[18:50] <slangasek> doko: it's already on component-mismatches
[18:50] <slangasek> (lsvpd)
[18:51] <xnox> slangasek, i was waiting for the next round of bugs filed by me to be processed first.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=u8rm
[18:51] <doko> ahh, -proposed
[18:54] <slangasek> xnox: well, I need a big picture view at this point of what's been signed off for removal, we don't have time to do these in rounds
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected proj [source] (xenial-proposed) [4.9.2-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:03] <slangasek> ok, what package in the qt transition just got reuploaded and why?
[19:05] <slangasek> (gsettings-qt)
[19:06] <mitya57> slangasek, I noticed from update_output.txt that gsettings-qt still depends on qtbase-abi-5-7-1 and reuploaded it.
[19:07] <slangasek> mitya57: ok.  will go do something else now while waiting for that to clear autopkgtests, thanks
[19:09] <mitya57> slangasek, sorry for that, but not fixing it would be worse :)
[19:10] <mitya57> basically the main thing to remove is still ubuntu-ui-toolkit, I can tell it without the britney logs.
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[19:11] <mitya57> slangasek, re indicator-datetime -> ubuntu-app-launch -> libertine -> ubuntu-ui-toolkit chain, I want to break it at indicator-datetime point, which means the remaining three packages should go away.
[19:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:13.1.4-0ubuntu3]
[19:22] <xnox> mitya57, slangasek - shouldn't gsettings-qt just be removed, since it's a touch thing?
[19:23] <mitya57> xnox, I thought it was going away, and probably that was the reason I didn't include it in 2819 PPA.
[19:24] <mitya57> But now it is fixed so can be removed later, there are still plenty other removals to do.
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[19:44] <slangasek> mitya57: in that case, note the other revdeps of ubuntu-app-launch still: url-dispatcher (I think the url-dispatcher upload only addressed u-ui-tk?), autopilot
[19:44] <slangasek> maybe easier to make ubuntu-app-launch not use libertine?
[19:45] <mitya57> slangasek, the problem is that I know nothing about ubuntu-app-launch or how to test it. (Which is not the case with indicator-datetime.)
[19:46] <mitya57> slangasek, But I can try removing libubuntu-app-launch/app-store-libertine.cpp and seeing what happens.
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[19:47] <xnox> slangasek, i am working on making ubuntu-app-launch not use libertine
[19:48] <slangasek> mitya57: ^^
[19:49] <mitya57> xnox, great, thanks!
[19:49]  * mitya57 guesses he can stop trying to update indicator-datetime then
[19:49] <xnox> slangasek, it will may need to force tests through, since it is dropping features.
[19:50] <xnox> url-dispatcher built
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
[19:52] <mitya57> xnox, I only just figured out that url-dispatcher is in main and qtquickcontrols-opensource-src is in universe
[19:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
[19:53] <xnox> mitya57, url-dispatcher should be in universe too
[19:53] <mitya57> xnox, but it is used by all the indicators
[19:53] <xnox> the only thing in main is:
[19:53] <xnox> ubuntu-application-api3-desktop
[19:53] <xnox> ubuntu-application-api3-touch
[19:53] <xnox> mitya57, guess where all the indicators are...
[19:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
[19:53] <xnox> $ reverse-depends -c main src:url-dispatcher
[19:53] <xnox> Reverse-Depends
[19:53] <xnox> [19:53] <xnox> * ubuntu-application-api3-desktop  (for liburl-dispatcher1)
[19:54] <xnox> * ubuntu-application-api3-touch  (for liburl-dispatcher1)
[19:54] <xnox> Packages without architectures listed are reverse-dependencies in: amd64, arm64, armhf, i386
[19:54] <mitya57> OK, liburl-dispatcher1 is not where I added the dependencies
[19:55] <mitya57> Oh, the indicators themselves got demoted to universe. Nice.
[20:02] <xnox> slangasek, mitya57 - my acceptance criteria here will be "indicator-datetime still works"
[20:03] <slangasek> xnox: url-dispatcher? autopilot?
[20:03] <xnox> for the ubuntu-app-launch upload
[20:03] <slangasek> xnox: yes - I mean, url-dispatcher and autopilot are also revdeps; but you won't test them?
[20:04] <xnox> url-dispatcher is in fact dead-weight, all it can do is launch unity8 stuff
[20:04] <xnox> on unity7 desktop we do not go via url-dispatcher code paths; even if indicators link against it for the touch profile
[20:04] <mitya57> As I understand libertine was need only for launching X11 apps on MIR. So if you removed only the relevant code paths, then the percent of breakage should be quite low.
[20:04] <xnox> autopilot - we tore down all the touch infra that uses autopilot, no?
[20:05] <xnox> mitya57, unittests are failing =/ but i may have dropped too much in the unittest cases
[20:05] <mitya57> xnox, can you show me your diff?
[20:06] <mitya57> (maybe push it to bzr?)
[20:06] <slangasek> xnox: but url-dispatcher was on the to-keep list for mir, isn't that because of the kiosk seed, which is mir-based?
[20:06] <xnox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25384930/
[20:06] <xnox> includes a quick gcc7 fix too
[20:07] <mitya57> If the kiosk sees used any X11 apps then it will be broken.
[20:07] <xnox> slangasek, no, url-dispatcher is to keep because indiators-* link against url-dispatcher, and therefore we either need to patch 7 indicators or keep url-dispatcher
[20:07] <slangasek> ok
[20:07] <mitya57> ...Otherwise if it uses Touch apps like webbrowser-app it will be broken too
[20:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:08] <xnox> slangasek, or we can upload 7 indicators that drop liburl-dispatcher1 code which may be quicker and cleaner
[20:08] <xnox> but that would make out of the archive unity8 for ubports project harder
[20:09] <slangasek> why would ubports use indicators from Ubuntu devel if they have to use Qt from elsewhere?
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:09] <xnox> true
[20:09] <mitya57> xnox, diff LGTM
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [armhf] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:10] <mapreri> ↑ that thing finally built everywhere, and you can process it from NEW :)
[20:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted postfix [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.11.0-1ubuntu1.2]
[20:11]  * xnox opens indicator-bluetooth and i'm failing to see _where_ it uses url-dispatcher
[20:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: audacious [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.9-1ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
[20:13] <xnox> found it.
[20:18] <mitya57> xnox, indicator-bluetooth looks really easy to fix. Just remove phone.vala and one line that registers the profile. But other indicators like indicator-datetime are not so easy.
[20:18] <xnox> mitya57, yeah did that.
[20:19] <xnox> slangasek, alan_g promised me that qtubuntu-desktop will drop dependency on platform-api but it did not
[20:19] <xnox> slangasek, platform-api declares /links against url-dispatcher and location-service
[20:19] <xnox> slangasek, can you escalate what the status there is?
[20:20] <xnox> slangasek, i think we need to remove qtubuntu-desktop from kiosk see and drop qtubuntu et.al.
[20:20] <xnox> and reintroduce when that is fixed to not depend on the platform-api
[20:31] <slangasek> xnox: platform-api wasn't on my radar at all for removal yet; if you're fixing url-dispatcher, why do we need to do anything for platform-api?
[20:31] <slangasek> or did you change your mind on that approach?
[20:32] <xnox> i didn't change minds
[20:32] <xnox> i am just annoyed that kiosk did not drop dependencies they said they will drop
[20:32] <xnox> platform-api is qt-not-blocking but touch-old-stuff-dead-weight
[20:33] <mitya57> xnox, are you still fixing ubuntu-app-launch, or want to fix all the indicators now instead?
[20:33] <xnox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-app-launch/0.12+17.04.20170404.2-0ubuntu4
[20:34] <mitya57> great
[20:34] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#url-dispatcher
[20:36]  * mitya57 hopes indicator-session's autopkgtest does not really test anything related to libertine
[20:36]  * xnox is patching indicator-session to stop using url-dispatcher meanwhile
[20:38] <tsimonq2> xnox: nice one (indicator-keyboard)
[20:38]  * mitya57 wonders if just running ubuntu-app-launch test in dbus-run-session would fix them
[20:38] <tsimonq2> o/ mitya57 et al :)
[20:38]  * mitya57 waves to tsimonq2
[20:48] <mitya57> xnox: indicator-session autopkgtest passes
[20:49] <tsimonq2> Does it break Feature Freeze if the package update you want in the archive is still in NEW? (I would assume no, but I just want to check, because I really want that new audacious in)
[20:50] <mitya57> tsimonq2, no if I remember correctly.
[20:50] <tsimonq2> Ok.
[20:51] <mitya57> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze “For the purpose of the FeatureFreeze, the upload date matters, i. e. all packages which are in the NEW queue by that time will be processed without the need for an exception.”
[20:52] <xnox> not sure if this is accurate
[20:52]  * xnox thought that since proposed-migration the definition of the freeze was "it has migrated"
[20:54] <mitya57> The “NEW queue” link on that wiki page points to Saucy queue. :P
[20:59] <xnox> ah no, we can't drop gsettings-qt because of hud
[20:59] <tsimonq2> xnox: Then can someone grant Qt 5.9 a FFe? :)
[20:59] <tsimonq2> :P
[20:59] <slangasek> xnox: certainly not, since we try to zero out -proposed by release
[20:59] <xnox> ack
[20:59] <acheronuk> That page is correct AFAIK. I asked last release or one before
[21:00] <xnox> slangasek, so, if and when url-dispatcher and ubuntu-app-launch migrate, you should be able to nuke ubuntu-ui-toolkit and all reverse-deps without any side effects.
[21:00] <xnox> slangasek, i will come back online to double check that; meanwhile i will pack for the trip tomorrow.
[21:00] <slangasek> xnox: thanks!
[21:01] <ahasenack> hi guys, I know you are busy, and that's fine. If you have a moment and could take a look at rbasak's ping from earlier today, about a "mini FFe request" about my squid package. I copied it to this pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25385186/
[21:02] <ahasenack> the MP is actually up (https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+git/squid3/+merge/329541), and maybe it will be sponsored before the FF, but maybe not
[21:02] <slangasek> ahasenack: ack.
[21:04] <ahasenack> thanks
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added linux-kvm to kernel in artful
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added linux-meta-kvm to kernel in artful
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added linux-kvm to kernel in xenial
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added linux-meta-kvm to kernel in xenial
[21:24] <jbicha> hi, please remove vala 0.37.90 from artful-proposed, we're going to wait until 18.04 for it, sorry about that
[21:26] <mitya57> slangasek, Qt is a valid candidate again
[21:26] <slangasek> \o/
[21:26] <slangasek> jbicha: done
[21:27] <jbicha> thanks
[21:30] <mitya57> slangasek, please also remove qtdeclarative-render2d-opensource-src, reasons the same as in Debian #872359
[21:31] <mitya57> And the qt*-opensource-src-gles packages may need removal, I cannot decode whether they block migration or not. In any case support for them was dropped.
[21:32] <slangasek> it looked like they were blocking migration, yes
[21:32] <mitya57> slangasek, Do you need a bug for them?
[21:33] <slangasek> mitya57: yes please
[21:35] <xnox> slangasek, re:systemd migration blocked by openssh test-suite error it is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1712921
[21:36] <xnox> slangasek, a work-around is to run havegend during openssh test-suite.... because clearly we have never had any major openssh security issues in debian/ubuntu.
[21:37] <xnox> but the eat up of entropy sounds scary, it may be due to llmnr or aggresive ipv6 refreshes, i'm not yet sure yet.
[21:41] <slangasek> :/
[21:43] <mitya57> slangasek, bug 1712924
[21:47] <mitya57> oops, ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles is already in the other bug, removing it from mine
[21:48]  * mitya57 goes to sleep, should have done this two hours ago
[23:09] <slangasek> acheronuk: fwiw the reason kalgebra migrated is because it was already uninstallable; libanalitza7 is somehow missing from artful
[23:11] <slangasek> acheronuk: it built, as expected, but has been deleted; and I don't know that we have a good audit trail for binary removals
[23:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pythonqt [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.2-1] (no packageset)
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pythonqt [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.2-1] (no packageset)
[23:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pythonqt [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.2-1] (no packageset)
[23:19] <acheronuk> libanalitza7 | 4:16.12.3-0ubuntu1 | artful/universe | s390x
[23:19] <acheronuk> and as kalgebra didn't build on s390x, that leftover did not stop it?
[23:23] <acheronuk> kalgbra 17.04 depends properly on it's libanalitza8, so it will sort itself out eventually, but.....
[23:23] <slangasek> I don't understand the leftover s390x binary at all either
[23:23] <slangasek> I guess that got published after the other binaries were removed
[23:24] <acheronuk> that would make sense (ish)
[23:24] <slangasek> except no, those were all built in March
[23:24] <acheronuk> the non superseded ubuntu1, yes
[23:24] <slangasek> oh, if kalgebra didn't built on s390x, yes it wouldn't be uninstallable
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pythonqt [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.2-1] (no packageset)
[23:26] <acheronuk> I still don't get how britney thinks that is ok to migrate without a dependant lib, but hell...
[23:26] <tsimonq2> Could an archive admin please review audacious? I would love for it to land soon... :)
[23:27] <slangasek> acheronuk: because britney cares about not regressing installability.  If you give it something that's uninstallable, and ask to update, britney says sure why not
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pythonqt [amd64] (artful-proposed) [3.2-1]
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pythonqt [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [3.2-1]
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pythonqt [i386] (artful-proposed) [3.2-1]
[23:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pythonqt [s390x] (artful-proposed) [3.2-1]
[23:27] <acheronuk> right. that does make sense.
[23:28] <slangasek> tsimonq2: not a priority, vs. fixing qt5.9 migration
[23:29] <slangasek> tsimonq2: also, this is starting a library transition the day of feature freeze, of a package that hasn't yet cleared Debian NEW.  What testing have you done to confirm the revdeps are buildable?
[23:33] <slangasek> triggering a no-change rebuild of kjots for kmime/kpimtextedit
[23:33] <tsimonq2> slangasek: The revdeps build fine in my PPA
[23:33] <tsimonq2> slangasek: But I see your point
[23:33] <slangasek> tsimonq2: good to know
[23:33] <slangasek> I will try to take a look at it once qt is through the chute
[23:33] <tsimonq2> Ok, thans
[23:33] <tsimonq2> *thanks
[23:34] <valorie> slangasek: will that happen today?
[23:34] <valorie>  qt is through the chute
[23:34]  * tsimonq2 guesses not
[23:34] <valorie> :(
[23:34] <slangasek> hngh, stupid script, accidentally triggered a rebuild of kmailtransport as well
[23:34] <acheronuk> kjots. is that still alive?
[23:34] <valorie> no beta 1 for kubuntu then
[23:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: Well c'mon, it might land within the next few days
[23:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: Looking at the removal bugs etc. we're getting closer
[23:35] <valorie> but then all of our uploads have to get through too, or it isn't worth it
[23:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: That'll all migrate at once.
[23:35] <tsimonq2> (iirc)
[23:35] <valorie> there will be nothing new for our users to test
[23:36] <valorie> well, I'm not announcing anything
[23:36] <acheronuk> if Qt goes, a few hundred KDE packages will as well
[23:36] <tsimonq2> valorie: Maybe we should see how the rest of this week and the weekend pans out, it could very well land before the Archive Freeze.
[23:36] <valorie> if it happens, that will be cool
[23:36] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: exactly
[23:37]  * valorie crosses fingers
[23:38] <cjwatson> slangasek: audit trail for binary removals> exists but is hard to find - you have to remember the URL scheme.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/s390x/libanalitza7 in this case
[23:38] <slangasek> cjwatson: ah, it was doko! :)
[23:39] <slangasek> doko: ^^ I'm unclear why you removed libanalitza7, which was not NBS in artful and whose removal increased the uninstallable count https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/amd64/libanalitza7
[23:40] <slangasek> valorie: we're within spitting distance of qt5.9 migrating; I intend to get it before my EOD, because letting it slip another day invites reuploads that slow down the migration
[23:40] <valorie> oooooo \o/
[23:40] <valorie> that's great news, slangasek
[23:40] <valorie> thank you
[23:41] <acheronuk> valorie: I *think* I have only one broken package that won't migrate
[23:41] <valorie> NICE
[23:42] <acheronuk> and that's only because I'm waiting to see if KDE does an upstream fix, so I don't have to break/fix it worse
[23:42] <valorie> :-)
[23:42]  * acheronuk glares at cantor
[23:43] <slangasek> gnucash, libreoffice-pdfimport look worrisome
[23:46] <jbicha> gnucash was removed from buster (webkit1)
[23:48] <jbicha> if you like removing stuff there's LP: #1710318
[23:49] <slangasek> so for personal interest, what's a good replacement for gnucash? :P
[23:50]  * tsimonq2 wonders what it even is :P
[23:50] <jbicha> I don't know, uh, LibreOffice Calc ? :(
[23:50] <tsimonq2> !info gnucash
[23:50] <tsimonq2> ohh k gotcha
[23:50] <acheronuk> kmymoney?
[23:50] <acheronuk> I've never used either though....
[23:51] <tsimonq2> There's a debconf 17 talk somewhere about it, let me find it...
[23:51] <slangasek> calc> very funny ;-P
[23:51] <cjwatson> bc
[23:52] <acheronuk> !info skrooge
[23:52] <jbicha> at least I didn't suggest gnome-calculator…
[23:52] <cjwatson> I mean I'm sure emacs can do it
[23:52] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: XD
[23:52] <tsimonq2> http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2017/debconf17/business-erp-freelancer-and-personal-acc.vp8.webm - here we go
[23:53] <jbicha> maybe somebody just needs to snapify gnucash, then it doesn't matter so much that it uses old libraries
[23:53] <Ukikie> Eww.
[23:54] <slangasek> tdaitx: what's the right fix for the failing libreoffice autopkgtests (can't find -ljawt at link time)?
[23:55] <slangasek> /<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/libutopia2_qt/utopia2/qt/bubble.h:56: Error: Namespace declaration lacks Q_NAMESPACE macro.
[23:55] <slangasek> someone want to fix utopia-documents?
[23:56] <jbicha> slangasek: I tried, want to remove it instead? LP: #1710317
[23:57] <slangasek> hinted libreoffice failures, which also fixes ubuntu-budgie-desktop