[09:40] <rmg51> Morning
[10:43] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:57] <pleia2> so it turns out I don't know how to boot a computer from usb/dvd anymore
[10:58] <pleia2> uefi confounds me
[10:59] <jedijf> pleia2: try bios and turning it off
[11:00] <jedijf> or just use old stuff(hardware)
[11:01] <pleia2> it just boots into windows
[11:01] <pleia2> I don't know how to tell it to not :\
[11:01] <jedijf> pleia2: did you go to bios and trun off the uefi stuff (if you can)
[11:01] <pleia2> found some videos online, but I'm on pay-per-gig internet this week
[11:01] <pleia2> I can't get to the bios!
[11:01] <jedijf> lol
[11:01] <jedijf> call HP support
[11:01] <pleia2> no "press f10 for setup" option
[11:02] <pleia2> amusingly, this is the neighbor who was all "I have an HP question!"
[11:02] <jedijf> do the keyboard mash technique on boot (allfingers pushing down keys at same time)
[11:02] <pleia2> yeah, one thing told me it was esc, then another f2, f10
[11:02] <pleia2> tried a few, maybe didn't quite get the right one
[11:03] <jedijf> yeah i do that throw in delete but the 10 finger mash sometimes just confuses it into bios
[11:04] <jedijf> also, that means you said "yes".....:(
[11:05] <jedijf> should have stuck with the dinosaurs
[11:05] <jedijf> destroy the village
[11:17] <pleia2> ++
[11:19] <pleia2> awww, Evan used my talk for LOPSA-East as an example in his email :)
[12:14] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[12:15] <lazyPower> o/ greeeeeetings baconites
[12:15] <lazyPower> InHisName: did you check out Digital Ocean?
[12:16] <InHisName> Digital Ocean sounds familliar,   may be a few months back, can 't remember.
[12:16] <lazyPower> InHisName: they had an issue when they integrated with juniper to reduce cross region latency
[12:17] <lazyPower> there was a massive outage in their NY1 data center for a week - but the blame was on some engineer cowboying. Now that juniper is integrated across their network you shouldn't see that. Otherwise i've had rock solid uptime out of them
[12:35] <JonathanD> InHisName: I'm using them.
[12:37] <InHisName> I am not.  Due to lack of income.  Checking out "We're hiring" button.
[12:41] <InHisName> Commuter Benefits -0- Plane, train automobile - how ever you get here, we'll help. They're in NYC.  NG for bicycling from Warminster area.  No mention of ipv4 ro ipv6 for commuting.   "Endless Grub" insinuates you have to be there.   Now if they'd only open a 'branch' in Warminster !
[12:43] <JonathanD> InHisName: I was thinking of moving my irc stuff to them, and using my linode only for the fosscon and web stuff I do.
[13:16] <lazyPower> JonathanD: we recently got an alpha juju provider for them thanks to an engineers efforts with the manual provider. I've moved my entire setup out of datashack, linode, and AWS to DO
[13:16] <lazyPower> cut my monthly bills down from $375 to $40 with DO - best move i've made in a while
[13:56] <InHisName> You are a winner, lazyPower.   That's some BIG savings.   Going from $0 to $5 would be the wrong direction for me.
[13:57] <lazyPower> thanks :) what do i get?
[13:57] <lazyPower> better be bacon!
[13:59] <InHisName> Any cups experts around ?
[14:00] <InHisName> Here you go:  http://photobucket.com/images/bacon?page=1   check out the 1st, 4th, and 8th pics
[14:04] <InHisName> I setup network printer with a windows shared printer.  When I print to it, I get a "Filter failed"  status.   What errors would make this message spit out ?    One web site says its lack of resources (ink, paper, etc.). However the print item never gets to arrive at windows driver so it never finds out that it's lacking anything,yet.
[16:35] <square-r00t> anyone know why  sed -e '/^[[:space:]]*#/d' -e '/^[[:space:]]*$/d' works but sed -e '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)/d' doesn't?
[17:48] <MutantTurkey>  is there a way t ocombine like, paste and diff?
[17:48] <MutantTurkey> I want to side by side see the diffs in color
[21:23] <pvl1> im so excited. i got an n64 controller working on my arduino. im hopeing mupen64plus will be able to read two controllers. might have to do some hacking


[06:26] <inetpro> fp
[06:26] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:37] <thatgraemeguy> morning everyone
[06:37] <pavlushka> inetpro: Kilos Goood Morning!
[06:37] <pavlushka> Morning thatgraemeguy !
[06:38] <Kilos> morning thatgraemeguy pavlushka inetpro and everyone else
[06:47] <chesedo> morning inetpro thatgraemeguy pavlushka Kilos and others
[06:47] <Kilos> hi chesedo
[06:48] <pavlushka> chesedo: শুভ সকাল
[06:48] <Kilos> eeeek
[06:48] <magespawn> good mornign all
[06:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[06:48] <chesedo> pavlushka: to you too
[06:48] <chesedo> morning magespawn
[06:55] <magespawn> time for me to go out chat later
[07:03] <superfly> morning
[07:32] <Kilos> morni ng superfly
[07:37] <pavlushka> Morning superfly !
[07:59] <Kilos> eish many fences cut again last night
[08:09] <superfly> hi
[08:09] <superfly> pavlushka: why are you not at DebConf?
[08:10] <pavlushka> superfly: My question is how?
[08:10] <superfly> pavlushka: next year, just apply for a bursary
[08:11] <pavlushka> superfly: and what about my physical presence? is that not necessary?
[08:58] <magespawn> hey Kilos, back in the office
[08:58] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[11:14] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[11:14] <magespawn> so what up today?
[11:14] <Kilos> all quiet on the western front
[11:14] <Kilos> dunno bout elsewherew
[11:14] <Kilos> elsewhere
[11:17] <magespawn> feel like i may have caught a bit of the flu this year
[11:17] <Kilos> eish
[11:17] <magespawn> but other than that everything is good
[12:35] <inetpro> Ubuntu 32-bit desktop installers could soon be a thing of the past
[12:35] <inetpro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-June/016661.html
[12:36] <inetpro> will be a sad day when that happens
[12:36] <inetpro> "In essence this would mean April 2021 as the sunset for i386 as the host/base OS architecture. And April 2023 to run legacy i386 applications with security support."
[12:37] <Kilos> eish
[12:41] <inetpro> Will It Affect You? Take the poll at: http://polldaddy.com/poll/9457965
[12:43] <Kilos> done
[12:43] <Kilos> langjan also uses only 32bit
[12:43] <Kilos> and all his converts
[12:49] <inetpro> really sad that distros just keep growing and growing in size and needing ever more resources as they grow, obviously
[14:22] <Kilos> inetpro tell me when you have some time please
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> wow, people still install 32-bit :-o
[14:23] <Kilos> yeah some peeps have old pcs
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> and on that bombshell, it's time to go
[14:23] <Kilos> hehe
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> heh
[14:23] <Kilos> go well
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> that's not old anymore, that's beyond ancient
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> but ya
[14:23] <Kilos> oh my
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> sentimental old ballies :-p
[14:23] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:23] <thatgraemeguy> cheerios!!
[14:24] <Kilos> cheers
[14:24] <Kilos> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2016/06/20/ubuntu-membership-board-call-for-nominations-4/
[14:29] <magespawn> or people without money
[14:30] <Kilos-> yip
[14:40] <Kilos-> Maaz coffee on
[14:40]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos-!
[14:45] <Kilos-> Maaz danke
[14:45] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:39] <magespawn> Home time for me, good night
[17:40] <cyrilb> hey guys
[17:40] <cyrilb> I'm in Joburg at the moment and feel like going out to work with my laptop until 11ish
[17:40] <cyrilb> any place to recommend? coffee shop?
[17:41] <cyrilb> I'm French, only here for a couple of days, I don't know anything around here
[17:41] <magespawn> hi cyrilb, areas?
[17:41] <cyrilb> Sandton but I can Uber anywhere
[17:42] <magespawn> most of the shopping centres have free wifi so Rosebank Mall or Snadton City I think
[17:42] <cyrilb> I have data
[17:42] <cyrilb> like 10GB for the week :)
[17:42] <cyrilb> Sandton closes at 8 I think
[17:43] <cyrilb> they kicked me out of the food court around 8 last yaer
[17:43] <magespawn> Most of the ones with cinemas in them will stay open till after the last movie has finished
[17:43] <cyrilb> I have data, I can work anywhere
[17:44] <magespawn> i dont know of any that will stay open till 11 during the week
[17:44] <cyrilb> OK
[17:44] <Kilos> spurs
[17:44] <cyrilb> Joburg doesn't seem to be the late night coding party city
[17:44] <Kilos> steers
[17:44] <Kilos> ?
[17:45] <cyrilb> they are restaurant, not sure I can just take a drink and stay like 4 hours
[17:45] <Kilos> have 3 coffees
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:45] <magespawn> i am off chat later
[17:46] <Kilos> and a burger maybe
[17:46] <Kilos> toods magespawn
[17:50] <cyrilb> all right, thanks guy
[17:50] <cyrilb> s
[17:51] <Kilos> good luck cyrilb
[17:51] <cyrilb> I had a look around with Google Maps, most things close at 7-8ish
[17:51] <Kilos> oh my
[17:51] <cyrilb> except restaurants
[17:51] <Kilos> just be safe
[17:51] <Kilos> crime heavy in jozi
[17:52] <Kilos> tie your laptop around your neck
[17:52] <cyrilb> I'll put it in a bin bag
[17:52] <Kilos> then they need to take your head as well
[17:52] <cyrilb> best anti thief method ever
[17:53] <Kilos> oh
[17:53] <Kilos> bin bag?
[17:53] <Kilos> those black bags
[17:53] <cyrilb> https://www.google.com/search?q=bin+bag&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWlsbt5s3NAhWhLsAKHZAnD2wQ_AUICCgB&biw=1276&bih=739
[17:53] <Kilos> yeah
[17:53] <cyrilb> I used to do that when I was upgrading hardware in the middle of the night in datacenters in Paris in the worst areas
[17:54] <cyrilb> with like €10,000 worth of hardware in the bin bag
[17:54] <Kilos> eeeek
[17:54] <Kilos> keep a backup somewhere else as well
[17:55] <Kilos> better to stay in and work there
[17:55] <Kilos> ohi superfly inetpro paddatrapper
[17:56] <cyrilb> definitely the wrong city for late night coding party
[17:56] <cyrilb> I think I'll just stay in the restaurant we have in the complex
[17:57] <cyrilb> (that closes at 8:30, err)
[17:58] <Kilos> ok
[17:58] <cyrilb> what time do you guys finish work usually here?
[17:58] <cyrilb> because if things closes at 8, I guess you don't finish at 7
[17:58] <Kilos>  nope office peeps at 4pm i think
[17:59] <Kilos> and some at 5 pm
[17:59] <Kilos> mage at 6pm
[18:00] <inetpro> good evening Kilos
[18:00] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[18:00] <cyrilb> oh, wow
[18:00] <inetpro> oh and hi cyrilb, nice to see you here again
[18:00] <cyrilb> we finish around 6-7 in PAris
[18:00] <cyrilb> sometimes 8
[18:00] <Kilos> i forgot what i wanted to know now
[18:00] <cyrilb> OK now I understand better
[18:00] <inetpro> cyrilb: why not code in your room?
[18:00] <cyrilb> I need to adjust my timezone a little more :)
[18:00] <cyrilb> inetpro: I get more focus out
[18:01] <cyrilb> nothing else to do
[18:01] <cyrilb> no distraction
[18:01] <inetpro> so you need a distraction in order to focus?
[18:01] <cyrilb> no
[18:01] <cyrilb> the opposite
[18:02] <Kilos> oh inetpro can you look at our trello , i cleaned up a bit and wanna hear if i broke tuff again
[18:02] <cyrilb> If I'm out, there's nothing else to do
[18:02] <cyrilb> I can just focus and work
[18:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:02] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:02] <Kilos> cant you do that better where you are cyrilb
[18:02] <Kilos> sounds like you are looking for distractions
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you find all these interesting characters? :-)
[18:03] <Kilos> he is from mauritius
[18:03] <Kilos> hehe
[18:03] <Kilos> and france before that
[18:03] <cyrilb> well OK
[18:03] <cyrilb> I took this habit since I have two kids
[18:04] <Kilos> aha
[18:04] <cyrilb> I can't get ANYthing done from home anymore
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: ha ha, I was just joking... I know cyrilb from some time ago
[18:04] <cyrilb> yeah, I'm a French weirdo :D
[18:05] <Kilos> haha yeah kids can be distracting
[18:06]  * inetpro struggles to adapt to working from anywhere else other than home or work
[18:08] <paddatrapper> hey Kilos. Hoe gaan did?
[18:08] <paddatrapper> s/did/dit/
[18:08] <Kilos> goed dankie paddatrapper en jy?
[18:08] <inetpro> cyrilb: you would make a great candidate for doing the Ubuntu hours events
[18:08] <Kilos> haha yeah
[18:09] <paddatrapper> Warm :D Ek sit lanks die vuur
[18:11] <cyrilb> What's that?
[18:11] <inetpro> cyrilb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[18:12] <cyrilb> I do like 50%+ of my work out of the office
[18:12] <cyrilb> And 0.0000% from home
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <Kilos> welcome to the world of family guys
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: I'll check Trello another day
[18:16] <Kilos> ok
[18:16] <inetpro> don't have much data left here
[18:17] <Kilos> eish
[18:17] <Kilos> no rush
[18:17] <inetpro> just one more day to go before end of month
[18:19] <inetpro> talking about data limits, I was wondering, maybe I should set up my router to deny everything by default
[18:19] <Kilos> everything like?
[18:21] <inetpro> need to get myself a proxy to control all access to the world
[18:22] <inetpro> way too much data that just goes lost
[18:24] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:25] <Kilos> uncapped could be like moving to heaven hey
[18:47] <Wolfeyes> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[18:47] <Wolfeyes> Evening everyone
[18:47] <Wolfeyes> Kilos - waves
[18:47] <Kilos> hi Wolfeyes
[18:59] <Kilos> where does one see out standing bugs in 16.04
[19:03] <Kilos> oops
[19:03] <Kilos> wb inetpro
[19:04] <inetpro> hmm... what happened?
[19:05] <Kilos> you didnt tell me where to find the page with bugs on 16.04
[19:05] <Kilos> so i cut your connection to wake you up
[19:09] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Launchpad somewhere?
[19:09] <Kilos> i found it in the ubuntu news letter
[19:09] <Kilos> [19:09] <Kilos>     * Open (123572) +173 over last week
[19:09] <Kilos>     * Critical (370) +7 over last week
[19:09] <Kilos>     * Unconfirmed (60919) +115 over last week
[19:10] <Kilos> do you get the weekly news letter
[19:10] <Kilos> paddatrapper i dont have your email addy
[19:10] <Kilos> whyyyyyy
[19:11] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Now you do :)
[19:12] <paddatrapper> I get them, don't read much of them
[19:12] <Kilos> oh my
[19:13] <Kilos> the ubuntu weekly newsletter
[19:14] <Kilos> when you done with debconf and ibid you can join the bugsquad
[19:14] <paddatrapper> Lol. I try report when I can
[19:14] <Kilos> nono
[19:14] <Kilos> fix the man
[19:14] <Kilos> them
[19:15] <Kilos> youll learn lots and it helps stacks for membership
[19:15] <Kilos> they always crying for help in the bugsquad
[19:20] <Kilos> i need more ubuntu members in our group
[19:32] <chesedo> wow Kilos great work with trello!!
[19:32] <Kilos> yay
[19:32] <Kilos> i didnt break anything?
[19:33] <inetpro> good night everyone
[19:33] <Kilos> sleep tight inetpro
[19:33] <Kilos> rest well
[19:34] <Kilos> superfly you need to sleep as well
[19:35] <Kilos> how can you help me on the membership board if you over tired
[19:38] <chesedo> Kilos: no
[19:38] <Kilos> yooo hooo
[19:38]  * chesedo just restored one item :D
[19:38] <Kilos> there are more things we can move chesedo
[19:38] <Kilos> which one
[19:39] <chesedo> africa site update thingy
[19:39] <Kilos> oh wasnt it done
[19:39] <chesedo> No still has to be merged (made live)
[19:39] <Kilos> oh we waiting fo fly
[19:39] <Kilos> eish
[19:40] <Kilos> wow thasts a tear ago
[19:40] <Kilos> year
[19:40] <Kilos> we will need to rattle his cage after dbconf
[19:40] <chesedo> guess i made something wrong back then that causes trouble for it
[19:43] <Kilos> i think i will crash now too
[19:43] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:43] <Kilos> ty chesedo
[19:43] <chesedo> Night Kilos
[19:47] <chesedo> inetpro: (hope you get this tom) i also added a new card for Jul's meeting and updated this page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings)... i you could review them too when you check trello


[13:11] <billf> Ubuntu 12.10 Release Day !?
[13:30] <akgraner> woo hoo
[14:38] <Nivex> looks like the releases are up on cdimage.u.c
[14:38] <Nivex> I think I'll go ahead and try to sync up before the announcement so I can immediately seed
[14:46] <Nivex> well, I'm on the torrent and seeding
[14:58] <Nivex> Nice. Formal release hasn't been made on the Xubuntu site and both my torrents are >2 ratio
[17:11] <Nivex> RELEASED!
[20:28] <MarkB1> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07503
[20:30]  * MarkB1 is patiently waiting for 12.10 Kubuntu -- gnome, ;-p
[20:38] <MarkB1> http://kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release
[21:53] <holstein> thre will be no kubuntu release with gnome :)


[10:45]  * stgraber waves from Europe
[10:45] <stgraber> now to hope the jetlag will be over before the upstart sprint ;)
[12:01] <consolers> 1. udevd shipped with quantal doesnt support /lib/devices anymore, as it states in the `man udev', instead the functionality is removed. how do i create /dev/xconsole at startup? 2. how do i overcome plymouth rules, so upstart doesnt hang at startup , waiting for some plymouth event which never happens? I want to get an unconditional prompt regardless of what happens to plymouth
[12:02] <consolers> for example if initramfs doesnt start plymouth, upstart hangs waiting for some event, instead of spawning a login getty
[12:02] <consolers> how do i stop that
[12:02] <consolers> if you know and refuse to answer the question, may your head fall off your shoulders
[16:41] <eruditehermit> hey, does anyone know how to create an upstart script that will trigger on loading of a kernel module?


[17:56] <vish> tsimpson: hi, can you turn on the buginfo for bug links too in #ayatana ? (ubot5 there)
[17:57] <vish> it just turns out no one knew it had to be turned on ;)
[17:58] <tsimpson> vish: could you get joey to ask, or rather to confirm?
[17:59] <tsimpson> just in /msg is fine
[17:59] <vish> tsimpson: joey?
[17:59] <vish> hmm, not sure who that is, but seems he has registered the channel..
[18:00] <tsimpson> well, I would like someone "in charge" to ask I guess
[18:00] <vish> tsimpson: afaik, no one by the nick joey comes to that channel.. i asked jcastro, didrocks, and lamalex
[18:01] <vish>  asked in the channel …
[18:01] <vish> tsimpson: btw, when #ayatana channel was formed, i was the one who had asked for a bit there :)
[18:01] <vish> bot*
[18:02] <tsimpson> tell ya what, I'll enable it and just join there, then if anyone has complaints they know where to poke me :)
[18:02] <tsimpson> #ayatana
[18:02] <tsimpson> oops
[18:02] <vish> thanks :)
[18:06] <tsimpson> hmm, vish, it should already be enabled in there
[18:06] <vish> oh! its not working then..
[18:06]  * vish checks
[19:00] <tsimpson> vish: it should be fixed now,just supybot being odd
[19:00] <vish> tsimpson: awesome thanks :)