[11:45] <josh_> ifireball:  i don;t actually have that much.  i just have no idea how much space linux programs take compared to windows.
[11:45] <ikonia> icqnumber: and thats the gnome login screen ?
[11:45] <mrjack> josh_: this depends absolutly on the program
[11:46] <ifireball> josh_: like I said, 5GB should be enough, as long as you make a separate /home partition
[11:46] <icqnumber> ikonia, i do not know how does it look like, i have no ubuntu installed
[11:46] <dexter> arf
[11:46] <ikonia> icqnumber: can you take a screen shot ?
[11:46] <icqnumber> ikonia, pink colours
[11:46] <julz> with two crap compies, can i increase performance with a two node cluster? or is it not really practical?
[11:47] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  i kind of know how the directory structure; my school uses solaris.  i just have no experience as an admin
[11:47] <dexter> not a good idea the Firefox 3 in hardy
[11:47] <panda> josh_: generally much less space ...
[11:47] <nikitis> Getting GRUB error 17, Grub bootloader is on /dev/sda as well as my windows partition.  /dev/sdb is where menu.lst is located and my /boot and linux partitions.  Any ideas why?
[11:47] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You will probably find that you don't need as many programs on linux as windows. Linux programmers are quite adept at sharing libraries (in windows these are dll folders) so one program uses the features of many libraries. Pidgin is a good example (mind you it only uses a few libraries) but it works as a AIM, IRC, MSN, Yahoo (and more) client
[11:47] <josh_> panda:  thanks; that's what i was looking for.
[11:47] <vistakiller> slaytanic you run compiz?
[11:47] <eckesicle> josh_, I have a fresh install of ubuntu. with Office suite, and programming environment, browser email, the usual. That uses up approximately 4GB
[11:47] <Boredom_inc> dll files*
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, menu.lst is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <josh_> ecksicle:  would a power user need more?
[11:48] <SoulChild> Hey all, somehow the third mouse button (pressing first and second mb) does not work on my synaptics touchpad anymore,... any ideas ???
[11:48] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: yes it's on the 2nd drive sdb
[11:48] <eckesicle> josh_, I am a power user.
[11:48] <nikitis> but my grub boot loader is on sda which I think is supposed to point to sdb
[11:48] <Ubuntu2008> anyone know how to recover from this error while upgrading to Hardy? http://pastebin.com/m77e504b2
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, did you try re-installing the grub
[11:48] <ifireball> josh_: my current root partition (where the OS and all the programs are) currently has 2.2GB used and 3GB free after years of using the system, so 5GB should be enough
[11:49] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: i typed grub-install /dev/sda  It said it reinstalled but i still get the same error
[11:49] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: if I'm not mistaken, I saw something like that when I upgraded
[11:49] <wild_oscar> but it didn't stop the upgrade process
[11:49] <ifireball> josh_: and I am a power user, I've stuff such as Apache and MySql installed the most users wouldn't need
[11:49] <Stred> Hello... Ubuntu newbie Q1: I'm running a Live CD on an XP system. Ubuntu is not recognizing my dual monitors (Nvidia FX5200), only one. Could there be an easy fix or would I have to install Ubuntu  first before trying to install new video drivers?   Thanks!
[11:49] <josh_> eckesicle:  sorry.  ok, so i really only need about 5GB of space.
[11:49] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: my computer has been hanging on that message for half an hour
[11:50] <immesys> stred: yeah, you would probably have to install
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, you need to follow some steps before that
[11:50] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: such as?
[11:50] <eckesicle> josh_, I am a power user. Games will naturally take up more space
[11:50] <samalex> Dues Ubuntu 8.04 server have some firewall enabled that doesn't allow IP's beyond the local subnet connect?  I've estup Ubuntu 8.04 server with apache and SSH, and even though I can hit them from other computers on the local network, I'm unable to hit it from the Internet, even though that system is setup as DMZ in router and GRC.com's Shields Up does show ports 80 and 22 open.
[11:50] <Stred> thank you immesys
[11:50] <samalex> just curious ...
[11:50] <josh_> ifireball:  i feel like i should send microsfot my bill for the giant harddrvie i needed to buy
[11:50] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: if u know where the upgrade log is, I can check if the message was the same
[11:50] <eckesicle> josh_, sorry for repeat.
[11:50] <SoulChild> Third mouse button on tocupad, pressing first and second does not work anymore,... any ideas ???
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, loacating where it is...check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:50] <immesys> stred: unless you remaster a live cd. This is not an easy task though
[11:51] <eckesicle> then on the other hand i keep 500GB of media. So linux will not decompress that for you :)
[11:51] <josh_> ecksicle:  ok, is there a way to keeo linux separate from ubuntu so i can try installing other linux flavors?
[11:51] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: I cannot do that.  When i type grub in the commandline after "SU" it comes back with a terminal error
[11:51] <Stred> immesys not likely to remaster a CD, thanks :)
[11:51] <eckesicle> so you might want to keep your harddrive
[11:51] <eckesicle> josh_ what do you mean?
[11:51] <timo> can i have some guidance please http://pastebin.com/m3d047985
[11:51] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, its sudo
[11:51] <ifireball> josh_: maybe... but they're not the only one to blame, I find the windows programmers tend to be inefficient space-wise for various reasons (like not sharing components for example)
[11:52] <eckesicle> You can have different flavours on different partitions if you like, or virtualise.
[11:52] <josh_> ifireball:  </>joke</>
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: found the log. it's the same message
[11:52] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: that's assuming I can get into a linux session correct?
[11:52] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: d/w I fixed it. Seems like it's a known bug with gnome
[11:52] <banshe> how do i remove a file extension,say .url from all files in a directory?
[11:52] <ifireball> josh_: for your last question, that's just asking for trouble, and make little sense
[11:52] <immesys> timo: replacing with package maintainers version is usually okay
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: but my upgrade continued
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, be on a live ubuntu cd and do this
[11:52] <icqnumber> ikonia, not way to make a screen shot, tty1 says: "user not known to the underlying authentication module"!
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: it continued as well?
[11:52] <timo> thanks
[11:52] <simion314> anyone use no-script with firefox? i have a problem
[11:52] <jrib> banshe: one way is to use the 'rename' command (see its man page for examples)
[11:52] <Jookia> Hi guys
[11:52] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: after quite a while it did
[11:52] <josh_> ifireball:  so what should i do if i want to have two separate linux distros?
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> banshe, use rename
[11:53] <banshe> ok
[11:53] <amerio> why I try to use sudo to install a package I get that "timestamp too far in the future:..."
[11:53] <Boredom_inc> Ubuntu comes with (by default) all most everything you need... CD/DVD burning software, bittorrent client, music player, office software, web browser, messenger client, PDF viewer, image manipulation software... The only software people really install (other than changing the default programs) is Programming environments and games... Games take up a huge amount of space obviously so you need to leave room on the ubuntu (not home) partition for games and c
[11:53] <ikonia> icqnumber: I can't explain that
[11:53] <Glas`Awyr> Question #1: Once my install finishes on my laptop and I have rebooted, I want to install an IRC client before I do anything else. I've only ever used mIRC on Windows and would like something similar. Any suggestions?
[11:53] <ifireball> josh_: just install them on separate partitions, you can sometimes share the home partition, but it may not work all that well
[11:53] <Jookia> Glas
[11:53] <arvind_khadri> Glas`Awyr, xchat
[11:53] <josh_> Boredom_inc: what games?
[11:53] <Jookia> I'm using IRC on pidgin
[11:53] <wild_oscar> Glas`Awyr: pidgin
[11:53] <oaihs> howdy
[11:54] <Jookia> HOWDY
[11:54] <josh_> ifireball:  ok, thanks.
[11:54] <[T]-Rex> check out irssi
[11:54] <wild_oscar> Glas`Awyr: pidgin works with irc, msn, gtalk, yahoo, etc
[11:54] <icqnumber> this massage appears, 1o times, after "loading, please wait", can not even use tty1
[11:54] <Boredom_inc> josh_: What do you mean by 'what games?'
[11:54] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, ??
[11:54] <Glas`Awyr> I tried pidgin while using running from the Live CD and hated it.  Im looking at a screen that is about 20 times bigger than it is supposed to be.
[11:56]  * arvind_khadri nexuiz is really awesome
[11:56] <josh_> _rambaldi:  how much space do they take up?
[11:56] <banshe> can someone tell me how to use rename? I am unable to understand the manpage
[11:56] <icqnumber> ikonia, this massage appears 1o times, after "loading, please wait", can not even use tty1, i have another distro installed on this box, does it makes a sence, actually not, well then the official mirror i got it from?
[11:56] <crashanddie> josh_, other than that, most games that are OpenGL based are Linux compatible (UT comes to mind, Quake, etc) Wine allows you to run Windows based games, by wrapping the API it needs. It's been a long time ever since I used wine, but support wasn't that bad
[11:56] <unocrash> hey
[11:56] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I don't play games really but there are a surprisingly large amount of linux games. Not all that many AAA titles but there are a lot of native games that are very good.  What should I do?
[11:57] <_Rambaldi_> i never really checked josh_ the package was about 240mb
[11:57] <crashanddie> Jookia, once you're booted, you should be able to eject the CD
[11:57] <josh_> boredom_inc:  so would i need more than 5GB if i wanted to install a bunch of games?
[11:57] <Xiliath> anyone tried hildon on hardy?
[11:57] <[^martin]> Hi all, I've just got my Ubuntu install up and running and have connected succesfully to my wireless network. I am having trouble connecting to specific endpoints that other machines on the network are not. For example, www.mozilla.org works. www.google.com does not. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[11:57] <Jookia> Martin
[11:57] <Jookia> Goto about:config
[11:57] <Jookia> And find IPv6
[11:57] <Jookia> In the search bar
[11:58] <immesys> martin: try turning off ipv6
[11:58] <Jookia> And set that to true
[11:58] <[^martin]> ah
[11:58] <FloodBot2> Jookia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <crashanddie> josh_, yeah, definitely
[11:58] <[^martin]> ok, 2 secs
[11:58] <dreamcoder> any reccomend what to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:58] <Jookia> Ubuntu is best
[11:58] <Jookia> But if you come from windows
[11:58] <tiramisu> dreamcoder: you can install kde on ubuntu
[11:58] <Jookia> Get Kubuntu
[11:58] <mosno> Gnome Menu icons are blank for newly installed GTK+ applications (installed via aptitude on 8.04) -- anyone know what the issue is here?
[11:58] <crashanddie> dreamcoder, depends on what you like most, if you prefer KDE or Gnome
[11:58] <Jookia> Or if you come from Mac
[11:58] <josh_> crashanddie:  how much would you recommend?
[11:58] <banshe> it is dependent on ur taste
[11:58] <Jookia> Use Ubuntu
[11:58] <_Rambaldi_> what happened to ubuntu-bots
[11:58] <immesys> dreamcoder: kubuntu looks nicer but I'm having grief installing it, so use ubuntu rather
[11:58] <amerio> guys the wireless driver exists but wireless doesnt work please help
[11:59] <Jookia> Amerio
[11:59] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I recommend allocating about 4 GB (ubuntu) + 5 GB (or less for games)... Because by the sounds of it you intend to play windows games and I assume they are already installed on your windows partition, you don't need to reinstall them on linux
[11:59] <Jookia> My friend had this problem
[11:59] <tiramisu> ubuntu should be used even if you want kde since kubuntu is dependency hell
[11:59] <Jookia> Disable IPv6
[11:59] <banshe> can someone tell me how to use rename? I am unable to understand the manpage
[11:59] <lclimber> hello everyone, i am havin a proble with my just upgraded ubuntu system, it doesn't seem to recognize my headphones
[11:59] <crashanddie> josh_, I don't know, depends on the games you want to play... Take about 10Gig for WoW, 12Gig for a normal CS/HL2/CS:S install
[11:59] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Mind you not all of them will run
[11:59] <amerio> Jookia how to disable IPV6?
[11:59] <dreamcoder> ok will try ubuntu thanks
[11:59] <osfameron> tiramisu: I thought kubuntu was just ubuntu+kde_desktop ?
[11:59] <Jookia> I'm not sure how globaly.
[11:59] <Jookia> But there's a firefox config
[12:00] <Xiliath> osfameron, it basicly is, but some applications are different
[12:00] <banshe> lclimber, thats y u should not use upgrade.
[12:00] <crashanddie> tiramisu, please don't spawn ideas like that, thank you
[12:00] <josh_> boredom_inc:  they aren't installed yet;  is there a way to install the games on a separate hard drive from ubuntu?
[12:00] <Jookia> Yes
[12:00] <crashanddie> josh_, of course, mount that drive to your filesystem, and install them there
[12:00] <tehgeek> Oh em gee.  The package servers seem uber-bogged down.  T_T
[12:00] <Ubuntu2008> amerio, do you know the make of your wi-fi card?
[12:00] <ifireball> crashanddie: shouldn't those games be installed to some other partition, say /usr/local or /opt ?
[12:00] <Jookia> Tehgeek: That's cause of 8.04 upgrades.
[12:00] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: What type of headphones? USB or standard headphone jack?
[12:00] <crashanddie> josh_, you might need to setup a new wine_C_drive, and set it to that given mount point
[12:01] <tehgeek> Jookia, Yeah, I figured.  Still is a bummer.  =X
[12:01] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: sorry, i'm trying it now
[12:01] <obnibolongo> amerio, Jookia, you can always blacklist kernel module ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:01] <ele_Acaro> SALVE A TUTTI ------------------------------
[12:01] <[^martin]> Jookia: disabled that IPV6 in Firefox, still no luck. It gets to "Waiting for host..." and just hangs there. Definitely a firefox issue though - just tried telnetting to the host
[12:01] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, thats ok
[12:01] <lclimber> Boredom_inc standard
[12:01] <josh_> crashanddie: no idea what that meant, but that's ok, i just wanted to know if it was possible.
[12:01] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 Atheros AR242x
[12:01] <ele_Acaro> HI TO ALL -----------------------
[12:01] <NekoKun> Is there any ubuntu distro that is minimalist? Just kernel + basic commands, not including any GUI, just basic drivers? Like an 'apt-get' version... that anything extra than the most needed stuff must be downloaded...
[12:01] <Jookia> Where would I go about finding my firefox bookmarks file?
[12:01] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: So it's not using the correct sound card then
[12:01] <obnibolongo> lol hi ele_Acaro
[12:01] <crashanddie> josh_, if you're going to install wine based games, Wine is going to create a virtual Windows drive (filesystem), just save that virtual drive on the other hard disk, so you can use that space
[12:02] <obnibolongo> NekoKun, Gentoo Linux? :P
[12:02] <makkbe> NekoKun: the server version is pretty basic
[12:02] <makkbe> if you want ubuntu
[12:02] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 and its enabled and in Use
[12:02] <makkbe> otoh, debian netinstall is even more basic
[12:02] <arvind_khadri> NekoKun, that would be gobuntu
[12:02] <NekoKun> makkbe: How many gbs it needs to install?
[12:02] <crashanddie> NekoKun, you could also try Arch Linux
[12:02] <jPratt> I dont see any differences really in 8.04
[12:02] <makkbe> NekoKun: under 600 mb
[12:02] <ele_Acaro> I FORGOTTEN THAT HERE IT'S USED ONLY ENGLISH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:02] <josh_> crashanddie: ok, so does a swap file of 5GB(i have 4 gb ram) and a Ubuntu partition of 5GB sound reasonable?
[12:03] <NekoKun> Well, so far Debian EeeOS is the best option... mmm < 600mb
[12:03] <crashanddie> but yeah, I'd recommend the netinstall of Debian as makkbe said
[12:03] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: stop with the caps
[12:03] <ifireball> josh_: why don't you go ahead and install? I think you'd have a fairly good grasp of the answers to all your questions within a month... and if you get it wrong the 1st time, just go ahead and reinstall, its fairly painless
[12:03] <obnibolongo> ele_Acaro, don't use caps, it's considered yelling
[12:03] <neeto> In 7.10, when I clicked on things in the system tray, it would switch to whatever workspace the corresponding window was on... it doesn't seem to do that anymore. How do I make it so that it does?
[12:03] <ele_Acaro> excuse me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:03] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Type "cat /proc/asound/modules" in terminal and check to see your soundcard (that the headphones are plugged in) is listed
[12:03] <NekoKun> What's the main difference between debian and ubuntu?
[12:03] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: and the exclamation marks as well, please
[12:03] <crashanddie> josh_, I'd say 5Gb is a bit minimalistic, to be honest, I'd shrink the swap to 2 gig, and give the 3 extra gig to your root
[12:03] <ifireball> josh_: at 4GB ram your should have about 4GB swap
[12:03] <dagon_> ele_Acaro; abuse of ! is also considered rude
[12:03] <makkbe> NekoKun: ubuntu is a customized debian
[12:04] <neeto> NekoKun: honestly? Sexiness.
[12:04] <mademelaugh> really
[12:04] <makkbe> one can say
[12:04] <mademelaugh> !swap
[12:04] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:04] <lclimber> Boredom_inc it says 0 snd_hda_intel
[12:04] <lclimber> Boredom_inc that's it
[12:04] <makkbe> NekoKun: debian generally use older packages in their stable versions
[12:04] <josh_> ifireball: about?
[12:04] <crashanddie> mademelaugh, I wouldn't use 4gig swap on any desktop computer that has 4Gig of ram... He'll never use it :/
[12:04] <NekoKun> makkbe: So, in a way I could say that doing the correct patches/kernel I could get a debian install and turn it into a ubuntu?
[12:04] <ele_Acaro> am i bad for you ?
[12:05] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 ?
[12:05] <neeto> In 7.10, when I clicked on things in the system tray, it would switch to whatever workspace the corresponding window was on... it doesn't seem to do that anymore. How do I make it so that it does?
[12:05] <NekoKun> Ok... I hate old things :p
[12:05] <banshe> how do i remove a file extension,say .url from all files in a directory?
[12:05] <crashanddie> NekoKun, you can always try Debian sid
[12:05] <makkbe> NekoKun: if you use one of the newer debian branches, yes
[12:05] <mademelaugh> crashanddie, yep, wise choice
[12:05] <makkbe> sid or lenny
[12:05] <ifireball> josh_: partition sizes, what installs where, games, etc.
[12:05] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and press test for something other than capture... you should hear a beeping noise (you may have already tried this)
[12:05] <makkbe> lenny is probably recommended
[12:05] <makkbe> sid is really unstable from time to time
[12:05] <mademelaugh> what
[12:05] <mademelaugh> isn't here ubuntu
[12:06] <Jookia> How would I go about accessing my /home/jookia/.Trash folder ON ANOTHER HARDDRIVE
[12:06] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Let me know if you heard anything
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, where did you mount it ?
[12:06] <josh_> ifireball:  i heard a swap file 1.15 times the size of your RAM was a good amount; is that too much?  if it's just virtual memory, does it ever need to be a bigger size than my RAM?
[12:06] <Jookia> disk-1
[12:06] <ele_Acaro> i would like learn more from you but i like much not be a problem for you !
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, that's not a valid mount point
[12:06] <amerio> obnibolongo so disabling VP6 would make my wireless work?
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, a mount point is something like /media/disk1, or /mnt/mydisk
[12:06] <josh_> ifireball:  this is installing on my laptop, btw
[12:06] <ifireball> NekoKun: you can say that about any Linux distro, doesn't make sense time-wise to do stuff that way though
[12:06] <NekoKun> I'm asking that cause I have an EeePC, and want something like eeeXUbuntu... but IMHO it has too much garbage installed....
[12:06] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: just ask whatever you want to know then
[12:06] <Kirby> is ubuntu supposed to be slower than windowsxp ?
[12:07] <mrjack> if you boot ubuntu with low graphics, eg xdriver not installed correctly, ubuntu starts with 800x600 - in that resolution, the update-manager and many other programs are using more than 600px in height, but they cant be resized making it impossible for the user to klick the ok or next button...
[12:07] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i would like you to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#head-ca3b215130839e9b2e1c85af31620153daba975c
[12:07] <Jookia> /media/disk-1
[12:07] <makkbe> NekoKun: do you want a gui?
[12:07] <neeto> Kirby: are you a troll or are you honest?
[12:07] <mademelaugh> Kirby, not really, you cannot compare mem management with xp
[12:07] <NekoKun> makkbe: I plan to instal xfce later, but I don't want kde/gnome uneeded files around
[12:07] <makkbe> ok
[12:07] <Boredom_inc> josh_: If you have lots of RAM your swap file will rarely be used but as a general rule a swap file roughly the size of your ram is good
[12:07] <lclimber> Boredom_inc yes, i have sound, the proble is that it dosen't redirect the sound to my headphones when i plug them
[12:07] <obnibolongo> amerio, I don't know, I though you'd asked how to disable IPv6, I told you how, I didn't know what was leading to it, sorry
[12:07] <Kirby> well my ubuntu is certainly slower than windowsxp
[12:07] <mademelaugh> Kirby, when refer to linux, it cannot be very fast, but it is stable, it just works
[12:07] <Paavi2_0> Kirby: yes and no. some things are much faster and some things you'd think to be slower
[12:07] <crashanddie> josh_, 4Gigs of RAM is quite an enormous amount, I doubt you'll ever need all of it. I seriously doubt you'll ever need more than 4Gig, your swap would probably never be used
[12:07] <makkbe> then i suggest a debian lenny or arch
[12:08] <neeto> NekoKun: I am coming into the middle of this conversation, but if you don't want gnome/kde, why not just use xubuntu?
[12:08] <finek> hi
[12:08] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  thanks
[12:08] <crashanddie> josh_, you need swap "to be safe", but 2gigs of swap is by far enough with the enormous quantity of RAM you have access to
 my wireless driver is enabled and in use but no wireless , do u have ny idea about that?
[12:08] <ifireball> josh_: the rule of thumb is that up to 2GB swap = ram*2; beyond 2GB its swap=ram; and beyond 4GB it doesn't mater... too much swap can cause trashing, though I doubt the swap will even get used on a 4GB desktop machine
[12:08] <arvind_khadri> Boredom_inc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#head-ca3b215130839e9b2e1c85af31620153daba975c
[12:08] <dagon_> neeto; or fluxbuntu ;)
[12:08] <tyranos> hi everyone , what do i need to install to get  my fn keys to work on my laptop
[12:08] <NekoKun> neeto: I've installed it and found good sized KDE and gnome folders on it
[12:08] <NekoKun> also, it uses a LOT of space
[12:08] <case_> Kirby, ubuntu can be seen as slower than winxp, as winxp si slower than dos... you have to compare the features too...
[12:08] <josh_> crashanddie:  what about when i hibernate/sleep?  (i'm on a laptop that i use for school)
[12:08] <tehgeek> tyranos, You need to hit the fn-lock key maybe?
[12:08] <tehgeek> :P
[12:09] <mademelaugh> coz you know, harddisk 's speed cannot compare with memrory
[12:09]  * arvind_khadri screams its mentioned it the official forums too that have twice the size of your ram as swap
[12:09] <ruewan> hi
[12:09] <neeto> NekoKun: well to run most apps you need some gtk/kde stuff, like any python programs or amarok, which is kde...
[12:09] <finek> what can i do when only one of speakers works and another one isnt?
[12:09] <Kirby> I am talking about GUI, gui in ubuntu is slower than in windows xp- browsing files, opening jpgs, text...
[12:09] <crashanddie> josh_, swap isn't used at that point
[12:09] <ruewan> i just instaled hardy
[12:09] <neeto> dagon_: flux is icky
[12:09] <Jookia>  /media/disk-1/home/jookia/.Trash = permission denied.
[12:09] <ruewan> my hard drive has been going nonstop since i installed it
[12:09] <obnibolongo> amerio, well, which wireless card do you have?
[12:09] <Kirby> case_: what features???
[12:09] <josh_> ifireball: thanks.
[12:09] <dagon_> neeto; can't be worse than xfce
[12:09] <finek> Jookia, sudo
[12:09] <crashanddie> Jookia, because you mounted it and don't have write perms on the mount point
[12:09] <Jookia> how do I sudo thefile browser?
 Atheros AR242x
[12:09] <neeto> dagon_: that's where you're wrong good sir.
[12:09] <NekoKun> dagon_: Why 'worse than xfce'?
[12:10] <dagon_> Jookia; sudo nautilus
[12:10] <obnibolongo> amerio, ouch...
[12:10] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Are your speakesr built-in or are they plugged into a different soundcard?
[12:10] <josh_> ifireball:  do you think a 2GB swap would be fine as well?
[12:10] <dagon_> NekoKun; never liked xfce
[12:10] <case_> Kirby, about gui features, 3d desktop, font antialiasing, file preview, vector icons... etc...
[12:10] <dagon_> neeto; okey :p
[12:10] <crashanddie> Jookia, mount /media/disk-1 -o remount,rw,umask=0 or something like that, check the man page
[12:10] <Kirby> can I make ubuntu faster, disabling its so called features?
[12:10] <tyranos> thegeek , thx i ll try it
 not supported?
[12:10] <finek> what can i do when only one of speakers works and another one isnt?
[12:10] <Jookia> Kirby is a troll. I'm sure.
[12:10] <neeto> http://noisefrombelow.com/images/sshots/clean.jpg
[12:10] <james__> Anyone else having audio problems? Mine sounds VERY grainy. This because of Pulse Audio?
[12:10] <lclimber> Boredom_inc they are built in, its a laptop
[12:10] <NekoKun> dagon_: I never liked gnome... can't explain why...
[12:10] <obnibolongo> amerio, don't know, I had problems with an atheros a while ago, checking which one was
[12:10] <tyranos> tehgeek, but the volume up key works
[12:10] <ifireball> josh_: depends on what you're gonna be running, but generally with 4GB ram, yeah.
[12:10] <flithm> hey everyone, I just installed 8.04 here, and I don't get any 3d acceleration (nvidia) like I did with gutsy... anyone know what's going on?  The hardware drivers utility says it's detected "nvidia_new" but it's not in use
[12:10] <neeto> xfce is not ugly in the least
[12:10] <Boredom_inc> josh_: 2GB might even be a bit excessive but there is no harm in having one too big as long as you can spare the harddisk space
[12:11] <case_> Kirby, you sould try Xubuntu if you have an old hardware. less features, less needs.
[12:11] <Glas`Awyr> Trolls are usually looking for cybersex... ahem...
[12:11] <josh_> boredom_inc:i'd rather be safe than sorry.
[12:11] <Glas`Awyr> xChat looks like what I'm looking for. Thanks #Ubuntu.
 used to work on gutsy ! but I made a fresh install for hardy and stopped working =)
[12:11] <dagon_> NekoKun; okey.. well xfce to me.. is too lightweight
[12:11] <Kirby> though when scrolling pdf it;s superfast in ubuntu, I couldn't find such fast pdf viewer in windows
[12:11] <case_> Kirby, but Xubuntu comes with XFCE as Desktop manager, not Gnome...
[12:11] <josh_> ifireball:  what would/might require a bigger swap?
[12:11] <ruewan> how do i tell what process is reading my hard drive
[12:11] <mademelaugh> dagon_, so how many ram
[12:11] <finek> how to reinstall audio drivers?
[12:12] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: actually there is harm in that, but not in a desktop scenario I guess
[12:12] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd.
[12:12] <dagon_> mademelaugh; one
[12:12] <inspired> I just installed hardy. with desktop effects enabled the window titlebar is missing when a window loses focus. using an nvidia graphics card. anyone else seeing this?
[12:12] <ele_Acaro> !addon
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <mademelaugh> dagon_, how many megabytes
[12:12] <ifireball> josh_: a heavily loaded server software like a database for example
[12:12] <obnibolongo> amerio, first of all, let me warn you, I told you that thing about IPv6 by mistake, I suppose I used the tab completion with the wrong nick ^^but anyway, I'll try to help you
[12:12] <james__> Is audio quality a known issue with Hardy?
[12:12] <dagon_> mademelaugh; count 'em yourselves
[12:12] <NekoKun> neeto: xUbuntu used a lot of space... and once I can't easilly uninstall packages (as it's easy in windows), I preffer to get a single minimal install and aptget it application by application
[12:12] <dagon_> -s
[12:12] <tyranos> tehgeek, i need brightness buttons to work
[12:12] <dagon_> gah
[12:13] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: No you're going to make him doubt me :P
[12:13] <dagon_> mademelaugh; yourself*
[12:13] <josh_> ifireball:  ok thamks, now i know i'll be fine with 2, since i don't do anything like that.
 no problem buddy , Im listening
[12:13] <Kirby> maybe the default graphics driver in ubuntu is not good for my videocard?
[12:13] <mademelaugh> dagon_, what? run free in terminal, mine is 256m
[12:13] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Look around in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ... I'm not really sure what the problem is if it's not switching to the headphones... I assume it works in Windows or whatever your previous OS was?
[12:13] <obnibolongo> amerio, wait a minute or so
[12:13] <case_> Kirby, what videocard do you have?
 take your time
[12:13] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd. Any ideas? I'm afriad my computer might explode if it tries to read the system from CD while burning a CD
[12:13] <Tasmaniak> Hi, since installing Hardy my disk usage (as in activity) is always around 60% and it's starting to worry me...is there likely something wrong?
[12:13] <Kirby> case_: an old one NVIDIA GeForce MX-200
[12:14] <dagon_> mademelaugh; 14740
[12:14] <flithm> hey everyone, what's the ubuntu way of configuring xorg to use my nvidia driver?  Should I just edit the xorg.conf?
[12:14] <tehgeek> tyranos, Oh, those buttons.  :P
[12:14] <case_> Kirby, you probably have to install the nvidia propretary driver to get decent video acceleration...
[12:14] <latarsky> would torrent be faster or a downloader like prozilla or flashget ?
[12:14] <DracoZA> flithm, tried nvidia-settings in a terminal ?
[12:14] <lclimber> Boredom_inc yes, it works on windows, thanx anyways
[12:14] <Boredom_inc> jookia: Lol why are you on the live CD and download the 8.04 CD?
[12:14] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd.
[12:14] <mademelaugh> dagon_, 1.4g? ram? then gnome kde you can choose whatever you want
[12:14] <Jookia> boredom:
[12:14] <Kirby> case_: acceleration? do you mean d3d ogl stuff?
[12:15] <ifireball> btw, since games were mentioned, does anybody here knows of a nice fast FPS which isn't network-deathmatch-oriented?
[12:15] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, desktop search? Check for Indexing service...
[12:15] <Jookia> It's a long story, upgrade from alt-cd mounted broke 7.10 on HDD, recovering data onto flash drive using Live CD, now up to this problem.
[12:15] <josh_> ifireball:  so if i'm at the partition preparations screen of my ubuntu install, in addition to my swap what do i need to create (other than my Ubuntu partition) and what do i mount where?
[12:15] <flithm> DracoZA: it's not installed :)  so what's the deal, the last ubuntu version automatically detected my nvidia card and gave me compiz and stuff, but not 8.04?
[12:15] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: do they even exist :P
[12:15] <case_> Kirby, opengl only on linux, but yes, that's what i mean. but it also benefits to 2d rendering
[12:15] <DracoZA> flithm, I'm installing as we speak so I cant tell you yet :)
[12:15] <Glas`Awyr> Okay #Ubuntu, I am now running Linux on my laptop.
[12:15] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: they used to >_>
[12:16] <Tasmaniak> obnibolongo: I thought of that, but it says Tracker is idle.
[12:16] <dagon_> mademelaugh; say what? :P it's 14.7 meg
[12:16] <tyranos> so none knows how to get all the fn keys to work
[12:16] <ifireball> josh_: you need a /home partition
[12:16] <tyranos> maybe i need keytouchd
[12:16] <mademelaugh> dagon_, what? i cannot believe that? try run less /proc/meminfo now
[12:16] <josh_> ifireball:  i will put that on my ntfs data partition, so it get backed up.
[12:16] <bXi> does anyone know the difference between vanilla firefox and ubuntu firefox?
[12:16] <Pord> Can any1 help me with a problem im having with my xorg and graphics card.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4789067#post4789067
[12:16] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, I've never found a good util to see what's accessing a disk, I usually nailed them (disk (ab)users) at using top... If you find a better app tell me!
[12:16] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You said you would play windows games... make a separate partition and mount it as /windows (Here you can install games that are windows only) mind you save some space for linux games on the linux partition
[12:17] <Kirby> case_: I'll download it later at night. What else can I do to make Ubuntu faster (1. XFce 2. NV driver ...)
[12:17] <Glas`Awyr> I have encountered my first "problem": A Restricted Drivers warning has appeared. It is telling me that my wireless network card driver is proprietary. Is this a real problem?
[12:17] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Actually you can mount it as anything.. "/games" might be more appropriate
[12:17] <NekoKun> There's no Ubuntu version of netinst and business card installer?
[12:17] <gluer> Q: how do i change the default icons, such as folder icons?
[12:17] <dagon_> mademelaugh; what difference was it supposed to make? it's still 14.7 meg free, I'm running vmware at desktop 2, that explains it
[12:17] <josh_> boredom_inc:  games will be on the computer i'm building this summer.  my laptop can't play games well.
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, you had it working before how? ndiswrapper?
[12:18] <ifireball> josh_: not a very good idea I'm afraid, since NTFS isn't 100% compatible with Linux, you better make a separate ext3-formatted partition for /home and back it up with Linux tools
[12:18] <amerio> gluer: u need to install a new icons , then copy them to ".icons" folder in Home directory
[12:18] <mademelaugh> dagon_, hmm, that expains it
[12:18] <mediacenter> Ciao a tutti
 I had it working without ndiswrapper
[12:18] <case_> Kirby, try nvdriver first. and don't download it form the nvidia website. you should find dozen of tutorial on how to set it up on the ubuntu forum...
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, which driver?
[12:18] <kernando> Helllo is there a way to enable a wireless connection and a lan connection at the same time in ubuntu?
[12:18] <mediacenter> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi con una scheda Pinnacle?
[12:18] <dagon_> mademelaugh; sorry if I confused you :)
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, out-of-the-box?
[12:19] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Ahh ok... So this computer you're using now already has windows. Yeah it's probably best to create a separate /home partition like ifireball said.
[12:19] <wild_oscar> gluer: System > Preferences > Theme > Customize > Icons.
[12:19] <Kirby> case_: not from website???
[12:19] <mademelaugh> dagon_, indeed
 the same one but I really have no idea how it worked before
[12:19] <josh_> ifireball:  i thought linux could read and write ntfs.  what problems does it have?  how big can home partitions get?
[12:19] <case_> Kirby, all these stuff are in the ubuntu repositories, so you don't need to trust a third party website
[12:19] <case_> Kirby, how many RAM do you have in this PC ?
[12:19] <ifireball> josh_: the security scheme for example is completely different
[12:20] <JPSmon> can someone help me with some module drivers?
[12:20] <josh_> boredom_inc:  my data partition has no os on it.  xp and vista have their own partitions, and my data has its own partition as well.
[12:20] <Boredom_inc> josh_: It can read and writes NTFS... I use it all the time because my brother keeps the music on the windows partition. I've never encountered troubles but technically linux isn't 100% NTFS compatible.
[12:20] <Kirby> case_: 768MB, so how do I install a better driver then?
[12:20] <JPSmon> like how to install and uninstall them?
[12:20] <sn0rlax> hi... I just installed server 8.04 i386. and mysqld_safe is using 100% cpu. funny thing is, there are no databases in mysql yet...
[12:20] <inspired> anyone gotten flash working on Hardy AMD64?
[12:20] <ifireball> josh_: Linux uses the UNIX 12bit permission scheme while NTFS uses complex ACLs
[12:20] <kernando> does anyone knonw how to? i want to connect to my other computer while still connected to the internet??
[12:20] <Boredom_inc> oh yeah and the security is different. Linux can delete whatever it feels like from NTFS
[12:20] <gluer> wild_oscar: i dont have themes in my menu, just appearance
[12:20] <obnibolongo> amerio, well... use forums or google for it, it's the best I can say you... Use http://www.savagehamsters.com/?p=55 for a quickstart
[12:20] <josh_> boredom_inc: would you recommend putting my home directory on a data only ntfs partition?
 how about madwifi do u think its gonna work?
[12:21] <josh_> ifireball:  would it be ok if i don't plan to encrypt anything?
[12:21] <ifireball> josh_: no
[12:21] <MarV-> hi
[12:21] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Probably not. I'd recommend it's own ext3 partition.
[12:21] <Tasmaniak> obnibolongo: I had a look with top as suggested, and I think it may have been the mythtv-backend, I killed the process and it seemed to quieten down a bit. Thanks.
[12:21] <Glas`Awyr> Question #3: I understand there is an incredibly easy way to install software (sudo something...) where can I find out more about that?
[12:21] <sn0rlax> anyone else having problems w/ mysqld_safe maxing out cpu? ( no databases loaded even )
[12:21] <josh_> ifireball: how big can a home directory get?
[12:21] <ifireball> josh_: the different permission scheme may cause all kinds of unexpected problems for various programs
[12:21] <MarV-> can someone name me the tool witch installs newest nvidia driver automaticly?
[12:22] <tyranos> envy
[12:22] <Villarroel> Hi.
[12:22] <MarV-> ahh right thanks
[12:22] <Boredom_inc> josh_: In fact if you want you could mount the ext3 home directory in windows. I do this also... mind you windows has even less support for ext3 than linux has for NTFS. I did it mostly cause it looks cool :P
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio, can't tell you without having messed with that Atheros in particular more... Which I haven't :) (a firend of mine had that wireless card and I gave up trying to make it work on 7.10 :P)
[12:22] <tyranos> MarV-, the tool is named envy
[12:22] <ifireball> josh_: depends on what you put in it, this is where all your documents/files/music/video/settings goes to by default
[12:22] <wild_oscar> gluer: then I don't know
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio: Google, Forums, and you'll find something. The page I told you had windows drivers which worked well with ndiswrapper :)
 I'll try to mess things up now ! if I make it work I'll let you know how ;)
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio, good luck :)
[12:23] <wild_oscar> gluer: appearence
[12:23] <Villarroel> Why there aren't jigdo files for 8.04 desktop?
[12:23] <wild_oscar> theme -customize
[12:23] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, you welcome :)
 thanx mate
[12:23] <wild_oscar> you have icons there
[12:23] <Boredom_inc> Glas`Awyr: You mean 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>'?
[12:23] <obnibolongo> amerio, :)
[12:23] <josh_> boredom_inc:  could i mount my ext3 directory in my ntfs data partition?  i don't care if windows can't read it.
[12:23] <case_> Kirby, you only need to install packages from the package manager (synaptic) .  you can try to install the package nvidia-settings, it should eventualy set it up to you, but i'm not 100% positive on that point...
[12:23] <wild_oscar> btw, can anyone check if "help" works on appearence?
[12:23] <MarV-> are there any problems with envy in 8.04?
[12:24] <mademelaugh> !ext3 | josh_
[12:24] <ubotu> josh_: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:24] <iKar> I need help please !!!
[12:24] <wild_oscar> system -preferences - appearance - help
[12:24] <wild_oscar> mine does not work
[12:24] <mademelaugh> iKar, ask, sir
[12:24] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:24] <neeto> What's an alternative to VMWare that's open source?
[12:24] <gopp> any one know if wubi works with a external dtive
[12:24] <obnibolongo> neeto, VirtualBox
[12:24] <Riot777> anyone here got maybe Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP tv tuner?
[12:24] <case_> Kirby, setting up the proprietary driver for nvidia videocard is one of the most documented question on ubuntu, i'm not the most qualified to help you...
[12:24] <neeto> cool
[12:24] <obnibolongo> neeto, but really depends on what you want to do
[12:24] <eth01> morning :)
[12:25] <mademelaugh> neeto, yep
[12:25] <Kirby> case_: should XFCE be installed from apt-get also?
[12:25] <case_> Kirby, yes
[12:25] <Zarin> 8.04 installer problem: I'm using the Live CD installer but when I get to the partition step the list contains nothing and all the buttons are disabled. Does anyone know anything about this bug?
[12:25] <obnibolongo> neeto, for example, setting up an connectin which is not NAT is a bitch in Linux
[12:25] <josh_> mademelaugh:then what was Boredome_inc talking about?
[12:25] <mademelaugh> !xfce | Kirby
[12:25] <ubotu> Kirby: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[12:25] <obnibolongo> neeto, though Ubuntu wiki is very helpful :)
[12:25] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I'm getting a bit lost as to what you are asking now... Just make a ext3 partition and mount it as /home ... You can back it up when you backup your NTFS partition.
[12:25] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:25] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, not working here
[12:25] <mademelaugh> josh_, sorry but you know the channel is so busy
[12:25] <NekoKun> !minimal
[12:25] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:25] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: cheers, I'll submit a bug then
[12:25] <NekoKun> mmmm
[12:26] <LainIwakura> Hello, can someone help me with my Internet connection? The network seems to be down, and I can't get it to detect an available wireless network.
[12:26] <case_> Kirby, you have a meta-package called xubuntu-desktop which will install all the packages related to the XFCE desktop...
[12:26] <case_> Kirby, but it will take a lot of disk space...
[12:26] <NekoKun> there's no 8.04 minimal...
[12:26] <mademelaugh> less than gnome...:p
[12:26] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"
[12:26] <iKar> and everything stops
[12:27] <tabenx> I've been searching google for hours and i cant seem to find something similar to both alltray and mail-notification for Evolution. For the most part all i want is to be able to minimize Evolution to tray but with a program that works with compiz-fusion, as alltray does not. Any suggestions?
[12:27] <josh_> Boredome_inc:  "<Boredom_inc>	josh_: In fact if you want you could mount the ext3 home directory in windows. I do this also... mind you windows has even less support for ext3 than linux has for NTFS. I did it mostly cause it looks cool"  what do you mean by mounting the ext3 home directory in windows?
[12:27] <case_> mademelaugh, i mean, having xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop is a little bit too much :)
[12:27] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:27] <chazco> Hi... anyone know if there is a HCL for 8.04? (checking if a Nova-T USB2 stick will work)
[12:27] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, did you do fresh install or upgrade? I did an upgrade
[12:27] <Boredom_inc> Anyways, back to the question I came here to ask... does anybody know of any firefox plugin or something of that nature that views PDFs inside the browser other than the Adobe plugin
[12:27] <mademelaugh> case_, indeed, x isn't important, though
[12:27] <banshe> does anyone run k8m800 via grphx card smoothly in fiesty or hardy?
[12:27] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help!
[12:27] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"
[12:27] <Kirby> is there a way to always run everything from root?
[12:28] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: Evince does that for me
[12:28] <banshe> at least 2D working smoothly would be great
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help?
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"?
[12:28] <case_> Kirby, do you mean "is there a way to screw everything fast?" :)
[12:28] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: an upgrade
[12:28] <Kirby> case_: I'm not afraid
[12:28] <case_> Kirby, don't do that. use sudo
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help?
[12:28] <grimsqueaker13> when i connect to a vnc server my keyboard input is completely garbled - does anyone know what i can do to fix this? i have check the -fp setting i think it is correct
[12:28] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: not sure how the Ubuntu folks did that, probably using moz-plugger
[12:28] <Zarin> iKar, stop spamming
[12:28] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831
[12:28] <makkbe> iKar: boot in safe graphics mode
[12:28] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Why doesn't it do it for me :( ubuntu 8.04
[12:28] <albech> anyone know how to delete all smtp information in Thunderbird?
[12:28] <wild_oscar> if you can confirm it
[12:28] <Kirby> case_: I have enter the pass each time anyway. what's the difference? it takes more time
[12:29] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:29] <iKar> THX FINNALY :8( why that happens?
[12:29] <Kirby> case_: and I have backups, please teach me that
[12:29] <wild_oscar> anyone with a fresh install of hardy can confirm, please?
[12:29] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: not sure, what happens when you click on a PDF?
[12:29] <mademelaugh> Boredom_inc, what is it
[12:29] <makkbe> iKar: incompatible graphics card or something
[12:29] <case_> Kirby, you can use "sudo -s" which will give you a root shell. but use with care.
[12:29] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, k will confirm it now
[12:29] <makkbe> can be due to tons of things
[12:29] <Kirby> case_: how's that?
[12:29] <Glas`Awyr> Anyone here use xChat on Ubuntu?
[12:30] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:30] <nullkuhl> guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:30] <tailsfan> I do
[12:30] <wild_oscar> does anyone have a working fresh install of hardy?
[12:30] <Kirby> case_: I just run sudo -s and it never asks for password anymore?
[12:30] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it
[12:30] <HSNews> which plugin for 'mc' for syntax highlighting?
[12:30] <snp> anyone know why?
[12:30] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: i do
[12:30] <wild_oscar> that can check a broken link - takes 20 seconds
[12:30] <HSNews> for Mc`s Editor (F4)
[12:30] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: can you please check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831
[12:30] <tabenx> I've been searching google for hours and i cant seem to find something similar to both alltray and mail-notification for Evolution. For the most part all i want is to be able to minimize Evolution to tray but with a program that works with compiz-fusion, as alltray does not. Any suggestions?
[12:30] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: System - Preferences - Appearance - click help
[12:30] <xee> Hi, is there a common solution for the "Could not calculate upgrade" problem?
[12:30] <case_> Kirby, you run sudo -s and you have a shell run as root, so all the commands run in this shell will be runned as root...
[12:30] <iKar> will ubuntu work then on my x1950pro if it cant boot :(
[12:31] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: and check if Help opens or if it's broken
[12:31] <Glas`Awyr> tailsfan: I'm not sure where to actually download xChat from. To me, the xChat website suggests it is available for Windows or Fedora.
[12:31] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: It just brings up the save as dialog
[12:31] <_Diego_> hello, what do u recommend: Upgrade gutsy to hardy or do a clean install?
[12:31] <Kirby> case_: cool, thanks (i have been root in windows for like 5 years anyway =) )
[12:31] <JPSmon> anyone else on here using rt2500?
[12:31] <tailsfan> Glas, where do you want it at, Windows, Ubuntu?
[12:31] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: DAMN <, its true !!
[12:31] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: I had a very delayed response there, girlfriend rang :P
[12:31] <tailsfan> I'm trying JPSMon
[12:31] <iKar> (1:30:47 PM) iKar: will ubuntu work then on my x1950pro if it cant boot :(
[12:31] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: sudp apt-get install xchat-common or use Synaptic Package manager From System menu
[12:31] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im logged into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:31] <saito> Could someone help me with installing ndiswrapper.. it refuses to work without it i can't hammer my wireless into submission :r
[12:31] <taggie> _Diego_ hardy clean install
[12:31] <JPSmon> or should I say not using it :OP
[12:31] <tailsfan> but I'm compiling as I type
[12:31] <case_> Kirby, no you haven't. window's administrator as less power than root... be carefull.
[12:31] <JPSmon> tailsfan: any luck?
[12:32] <case_> *has*
[12:32] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: can you please confirm the bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831 ?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> I have a Hardy troubleshooting question
[12:32] <tailsfan> It's not done yet
[12:32] <Kirby> case_: what can go wrong? will pc blow up?
[12:32] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> after upgrading from Gutsy, my ati driver isn't working properly
[12:32] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: do you have Evince installed? was your system upgraded or clean-installed? did you use that same home directory with other systems/versions?
[12:32] <Glas`Awyr> tailsfan: I want to get xChat installed for Ubuntu and I want to do it the easiest way possible *grin*
[12:32] <ken_fallon> hi all
[12:32] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> it won't allow me to adjust the screen resolution
[12:32] <JPSmon> tailsfan: what isn't done yet?
[12:32] <LainIwakura> Hello, does anyone know how I can get the b43 driver to work with my broadcom chipset? The wiki page doesn't help.
[12:32] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, how do i confirm just add a comment?
[12:32] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it, anyone know why, its using WPA security, all info for the connection is right(i belive)
[12:32] <case_> Kirby, you can hardly delete kernel32.dll beeing Administrator. you can delete the linux kernel beeing root. double check every "rm" or "mv" or "cp" or anything you do...
[12:32] <JPSmon> LianIwakura:  the wiki where?
[12:33] <saito> pushd ndiswrapper-*/
[12:33] <saito> sudo make uninstall
[12:33] <saito> make
[12:33] <saito> sudo make install
[12:33] <saito> popd
[12:33] <FloodBot2> saito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:33] <LainIwakura> JPSmon: in Ubuntu
[12:33] <saito> too many spaces ~_~  sorry
[12:33] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: sudp apt-get install xchat-common or use Synaptic Package manager From System menu
[12:33] <Kirby> case_: oh, ok thanks for warning.
[12:33] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:33] <gerro> excuse me where can I get torrent for xubuntu 8.04?
[12:33] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: when in doubt, make the clean-user test, make a new clean Ubuntu user with an empty home, log into it and see how it behaves
[12:33] <LainIwakura> JPSmon: Namely, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[12:33] <sipior> gerro: check the channel topic
[12:33] <HardyOne> gerro: releases.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <Glas`Awyr> gerro: Topic?
[12:33] <case_> Kirby, basicaly it's a bad habit to be root all the time. use root account only when realy needed.
[12:33] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:33] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Was upgraded unfortunately but I keep it pretty clean. Although it being due to the upgrade makes sense.
[12:34] <sipior> `mIRC`: what's an althernet?
[12:34] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: done ..
[12:34] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:34] <DracoZA> he means alternate
[12:34] <raj1> my grub entry shows development version still
[12:34] <HardyOne> sipior: he means alternate cd
[12:34] <NekoKun> gerro: xubuntu website
[12:34] <saito> Could someone help me out with nsidwrapper:  Leaving directory `/home/saito/Installer stuff/ndiswrapper-1.52/driver' make: *** [install] Error 2
[12:34] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:34] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:34] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: could be mozilla-plugin related settings in your home dir, do the clean user test
[12:34] <Kirby> case_: I just started learning and need to enter that password like 100 times a day or more, that's tiring. so when I learn enough I'll stop this habit
[12:34] <NekoKun> How can I add drivers to hardy's mini.iso?
[12:34] <sipior> HardyOne: DracoZA thanks. i thought maybe i was becoming dyslexic
[12:34] <raj1> did all users get to final through upgrade ?
[12:34] <iKar> thx guy 4 having time to talk :)
[12:34] <HardyOne> Sipingal: you aer
[12:34] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: cheers
[12:34] <Glas`Awyr> Is this correct?: sudp apt-get install xchat-common
[12:35] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:35] <HardyOne> sipior: yuo aer
[12:35] <HardyOne> :P
[12:35] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: I'll worry about it later cause I should be drawing a java class diagram for uni. But test user sounds like a good idea.
[12:35] <Glas`Awyr> I was expecting sudo
[12:35] <damo22> `mIRC` the alternate disc is for textmode installs... if you dont need to do anything fancy, just get the desktop cd
[12:35] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.....what is the different between them?
[12:35] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: yes
[12:35] <raj1> anyone ?
[12:35] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: i found 2 other bugs !
[12:35] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:35] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: yeah sudo not sudp
[12:35] <iKar> does hardy support ati :)
 thanks
[12:35] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: where?
[12:35] <iKar> drivers
[12:35] <crashanddie> Glas`Awyr, only for sudp instead of sudo part, yes
[12:35] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: have fun diagraming... what are you using for that btw?
[12:35] <gerro> ah I found it thanks
[12:35] <case_> Kirby, you're learning? when you learn, you always finish by typing somthing stupide like "rm * ~" (instead of rm *~ for example). and then you learn (the hard way) thant you don't *want* to be root all the time :)
[12:35] <crashanddie> Glas`Awyr, you can find a package using sudo aptitude search NAME
[12:36] <ricanelite> what is the plugins do I need to have installed so if I head over to a site like computeramerica.com and stream out to listen to there audio shows
[12:36] <adil> j
[12:36] <iKar> does hardy support ati :)
[12:36] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:36] <tyranos> i need help with the fn keys on my laptop plz
[12:36] <guitarj1d> iKar, the restricted driver worked for me in gutsy
[12:36] <ricanelite> because I could watch youtube videos/google videos
[12:36] <rysiek|pl> guys, what was the name of the app that allowed to create remixed Ubuntu ISOs
[12:36] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: not with buttons this time,, but 1 with the hostname file,, i change my pcs hostname after installation and then after restart system goes 100% unresponsive ! tilll i went to recovery mode and switched it back to the one choosed at installation
[12:36] <guitarj1d> iKar, but I can't get it to work in Hardy
[12:36] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Nothing as of yet... I was in the middle of asking if anybody knew of any good software for UML diagrams... I usually just draw them in GIMP or something stupid like that.
[12:36] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it, anyone know why, its using WPA security, all info for the connection is right(i belive)
[12:36] <Kirby> case_: well even I delete the whole kernel, I won't worry much =)
[12:36] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: try dia
[12:37] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Thanks
[12:37] <case_> Kirby, are you that deseperate? :))
[12:37] <rungss> guys is it safe to upgrade to 8.04 TLS from 7.10??
[12:37] <BrianB04> Good morning all.
[12:37] <saito> Someone who could help me with installing ndiswrapper (or has other idea to hammer my usb wireless thingie into submission) please PM
[12:37] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:37] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: the second one , is with the effects, after enabling the restricted driver for my ati card then enabled effects works for 3 seconds then FULL SYSTEM Freeze ,, not even responsive to power button
[12:37] <crashanddie> rungss, yes, of course
[12:37] <Kirby> case_: I have the installation cd right here, it will take no more than 15 mins to install it back =)
[12:37] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: did u change hostname in nm-applet?
[12:37] <case_> Kirby, anyway, it's never too early to have good habits.
[12:37] <rungss> crashhanddie: Thanks I have already started upgrading it..
[12:37] <Boredom_inc> rungss: I did and everything is all good ... err I had to fiddle around with my sound a bit but that might have just been my system. Although some people prefer a clean install.
[12:38] <nullkuhl> no.. i changed host name by editing /etc/hostname file
[12:38] <iKar> guitarJ1D:do u know how to make the mwork
[12:38] <rungss> was a littlew concerned if anything goes wrong
[12:38] <Kirby> case_: agreed
[12:38] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: graphics are always a pain...
[12:38] <Glas`Awyr> Okay. Command accepted merrily, but now I am being asked for my password "[sudo] password for myusername:" but no input is being accepted.
[12:38] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar:i seriously regret waiting and downloading hardy
[12:38] <guitarj1d> iKar, that's what I'm trying to find out
[12:38] <crashanddie> Boredom_inc, do you know bouml ? It's far from making very nice UML diagrams, but they are 100% valid, and 100% complete, it also allows you to export in plenty formats (html, latex) and generate the code signatures for Java/C++/PHP
[12:38] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: you will not see any input but type it in and hit enter it will work
[12:38] <_Rambaldi_> its just invisible thats all Glas`Awyr
[12:38] <JPSmon> tailsfan: any luck with the rt2500 ?
[12:38] <snp> need help with a wireless network, using windows driver via ndiswrapper, pm me please!
[12:38] <Glas`Awyr> Okay... it worked!
[12:38] <crashanddie> Boredom_inc, there's also netbeans that allows to do very nice UML, but I've tested it thoroughly
[12:38] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: it is a security feature
[12:39] <ricanelite> what is ubuntu restricted apps that i need to install so i could listen to audio streams that use windows media player
[12:39] <iKar> guitarj1d:have u downloaded ati drivers from their website
[12:39] <chazco> Anyone know why the Hardy live CD is in such a low resolution? Gusty used to give 1024x768... this seems to be 640x480
[12:39] <JPSmon> snp: what is your driver?
[12:39] <HardyOne> !wma | ricanelite
[12:39] <ubotu> ricanelite: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <rungss> I won't be able to use my Firefox plugins I gues...???
[12:39] <Boredom_inc> crashhandle: I'll take a look, thanks
[12:39] <guitarj1d> iKar, no i just used the restricted driver downloaded automatically
[12:39] <ifireball> nullkuhl: since you changed your /etc/hostname file your /etc/hosts file is probably is probably out of sync with it, which may cause all kinds of trouble
[12:39] <snp> its for a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C)
[12:39] <Boredom_inc> crashhanddie:*
[12:39] <guitarj1d> I didn't think ati provided linux drivers
[12:39] <nullkuhl> ifireball: yea may be it was my mistake then,, but the graphics problem is killing me
[12:40] <JPSmon> you see, ubuntu put out a faulty wireless driver on release so that we wouldn't over load the server :OP
[12:40] <iKar> guitarj1d:hmm try to down it ati provides linux drivers go on theyr www.ati.com
[12:40] <sanguisdex> guitarj1d:  the do and if you can get them to work they do pretty good
[12:40] <JPSmon> snp: what is your chipset?
[12:40] <Boredom_inc> rungss: All my firefox work except my gmail manager
[12:40] <nullkuhl> ifireball: i just downloaded the restricted driver then enabled effects,, works exactly for 3 seconds then total system freeze !
[12:40] <snp> hang on
[12:40] <JPSmon> my nVidia worked fine in 7.10 - why won't it work here?
[12:41] <HSNews> which tar options I can unpack bz2 archive?
[12:41] <sanguisdex> is there a way to upgrade using the live CD?
[12:41] <rungss> Boredom_inc: You are using Firefox 3 Beta 5 or did you revert back to Firefox 2??
[12:41] <Vitdom> How do you navigate backwards in the terminal?
[12:41] <crashanddie> JPSmon, I don't have any problems with the drivers, did you activate the restricted drivers ?
[12:41] <craigbass1976> Why have I got an /etc/samba/ folder, but no /etc/init.d/ entry ?
[12:41] <iKar> everybody has problem with graphic card ????
[12:41] <banshe> me
[12:41] <banshe> via k8m800
[12:41] <ifireball> nullkuhl: well, try fixing the /etc/hosts problem first and see what happens (in Linux graphics == networking...)
[12:41] <guitarj1d> iKar, downloading now, will let you know
[12:41] <kebab> I'm trying to set up vmware server on ubuntu 8.04. It asks me: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]" Any idea what the correct directory might be?
[12:41] <JPSmon> sanguisdex: no, you have to use the alternate install CD
[12:41] <sanguisdex> ok
[12:42] <JPSmon> crashanddie: I mean for dual monitoring
[12:42] <sanguisdex>  re downlaodingnow
[12:42] <damo22> !xmms
[12:42] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:42] <iKar> guitarj1d: yeah try it wich graph card uv got ?
[12:42] <banshe> kebab, hope u have the linux-sources package installed.
[12:42] <nullkuhl> ifireball: the network problem already fixed i switched back the original hostname
[12:42] <erhtdgbrt> hi
[12:42] <guitarj1d> iKar, 9600
[12:42] <chazco> Anyone know why the Hardy live CD is in such a low resolution? Gusty used to give 1024x768... this seems to be 640x480
[12:42] <crashanddie> JPSmon, dunno then
[12:42] <ifireball> nullkuhl: total freezes are typically roted in hardware problems though, could your system be overheating?
[12:42] <damo22> how can i install xmms in hardy?
[12:42] <JPSmon> chazco: whats your graphics card?
[12:43] <crashanddie> kebab, that's the right answer
[12:43] <iKar> guitarj1d: I have x1950 pro and I had boot problems did U?
[12:43] <nullkuhl> ifireball: but the system doesnt freeze unless i use the wobble windows effect,,
[12:43] <crashanddie> kebab, defaults usually work
[12:43] <kebab> crashanddie: It'd not the right answer
[12:43] <chazco> JPSmon - Its an onboard nvidia card... gives 1024x768 on gusty cd, 1440x900 on gusty with drivers... 640x480 on Hardy...
[12:43] <ifireball> nullkuhl: does the system work right without effects? say, using the restricted driver and playing a 3D game?
[12:43] <kebab> banshe: where do I get linux-sources?
[12:43] <ifireball> nullkuhl: the wobble is one of the more demanding effects afaik
[12:44] <nullkuhl> a 3d game ? have none currently
[12:44] <guitarj1d> iKar, no problem with boot, but I can't adjust screen resolution and the shut down screen colors are all messed up
[12:44] <chazco> JPSmon - Hopefully the drivers will be available when installed, but making install tricky :)
[12:44] <banshe> kebab, synaptic
[12:44] <nullkuhl> ifireball: works fine without effects !
[12:44] <JPSmon> chazco : and annoying yeah
[12:44] <Boredom_inc> rungss: Massively delayed response but I'm using firefox 3 beta.... If I were you I wouldn't revert back it's great.
[12:44] <iKar> guitarj1d : yea I will install hardy 2day so Im worried about my grap cad:(
[12:44] <crashanddie> kebab, install the kernel headers like someone pointed out, they'll get installed in the default directory
[12:44] <damo22>   xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[12:44] <JPSmon> I propose there should be a different chat room for video problems and a different chat room for wireless card problems
[12:44] <Glas`Awyr> If I'm using "supo apt-get install xchat-common" and getting back "E: Couldn't find package xhcat-common", might I be needing to download something?
[12:45] <tehgeek> Gwar.  Anyone have any trouble getting the "Debian" menu to show up in the applications menu?
[12:45] <chazco> JPSmon - Sounds like a good idea... having partioning issues now
[12:45] <wigren> where do i fine the utility to increase the screen brightness
[12:45] <kebab> banshe: linux-sources isn't a package
[12:45] <rungss> 73 Packages are going to be removed
[12:45] <rungss> 196 new Packages are going to be installed
[12:45] <tehgeek> I've tried using "update-menus," using alacarte, and everything, and no luck.
[12:45] <rungss> 1108 packages are going to be upgraded
[12:45] <rungss> You have to download a total of 1070M This download will take about 11 hours
[12:45] <kebab> crashanddie: What package?
[12:45] <FloodBot2> rungss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <mohamed_> hello all white download ubuntu it interupped and the download site not respond can i complate download from another mirror or this affect downloaded data ?
[12:45] <Oprtz> when i play dvd in mplayer it shows this error "  Fatal Error, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. " what to do ?
[12:45] <guitarj1d> iKar, yeah my screen resolution is at 1920x1200, kind of hard to see on a 17 inch screen,  I have the driver file downloaded
[12:45] <DracoZA> lol @ rungss
[12:45] <Boredom_inc> rungss: lol what internet?
[12:45] <banshe> kebab, install that deb from synaptic
[12:45] <guitarj1d> iKar, any idea how to install it  *.run?
[12:45] <ifireball> nullkuhl: try working a while with the most basic effects setting, see if if freezes after a while (when opening lots of windows or something)
[12:45] <JPSmon> tehgeek - hail gwar
[12:45] <Zarin> 8.04 installer problem: I'm using the Live CD installer but when I get to the partition step the list contains nothing and all the buttons are disabled. Does anyone know anything about this bug?
[12:46] <tehgeek> JPSmon, K, now how to fix my problem.  xD
[12:46] <iKar> guitarj1d: do u know good website with ubuntu commands..are u in ubuntu now?
[12:46] <bXi> why does firefox 3b5 mess up my DPI
[12:46] <kebab> banshe: synaptic doens;t find any package called linux-sources
[12:46] <rungss> 1040 M thats about a GB
[12:46] <JPSmon> die for Oderous
[12:46] <JPSmon> <---- knows nothing about debian
[12:46] <pere_> plese help, I don kow why my sistem ferr
[12:46] <banshe> kebab, may be linux-source or kernel-source?
[12:46] <tehgeek> JPSmon, If you know anything about Ubuntu, then you know SOMETHING about Debian ;)
[12:46] <DracoZA> Hold thumbs im about to boot up for the first time after installing
[12:46] <pere_> freze a lot
[12:46] <rungss> What should I do??
[12:47] <rhineheart_m> anybody here who could tell me an experience of heron in server environment?
[12:47] <tehgeek> JPSmon, But Debian isn't really an issue, it's just the "Debian" applications menu that I can't get to show up on my main menu.
[12:47] <case_> debian: ubuntu not for human beeings :)
[12:47] <gord> mohamed_: best way is to use bittorrent, really
[12:47] <guitarj1d> iKar, I'm using 7.10 but still kind of new at it to be honest, whenever I have a problem just check the forums,  I have a good unix cheet sheet thoughhttp://blog.lxpages.com/ultimate_linux.html
[12:47] <crashanddie> kebab, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[12:47] <usernamed> Hi all, is this the right place to ask a question about getting a Belkin USB wireless device working?
[12:47] <JPSmon> good luck DravoZA
[12:47] <JPSmon> good luck DracoZA
[12:47] <pere_> plese help, I don kow why my sistem fereze a lot, can  I find a system doctor" to see what happen??
[12:47] <mohamed_> gord this mean to start from begining :)
[12:47] <Kirby> how do I find out the name of the current display?
[12:48] <crashanddie> pere_, check the syslog
[12:48] <mohamed_> gord,  i already download moe than 600 MB
[12:48] <JPSmon> Belkin is the devil
[12:48] <kebab> crashanddie: I already had the latest version
[12:48] <pere_> how?
[12:48] <damo22> i had to download 1800mb for hardy upgrade
[12:48] <iKar> guitarj1d: Im new also and if it wont install .run tnn  I dont know :S
[12:48] <gord> mohamed_: yes, unfortunately, because most meathods dont resume from different places, BUT tell me "how" u downloaded it so far?
[12:48] <wigren> i just upgraded to 8.04 but i can not find how to adjust the brightness of my laptop monitor. any ideas?
[12:48] <pere_> sorry i'm not expert!
[12:48] <banshe> thats y time and again i tell here dont use upgrade.
[12:48] <kebab> crashanddie: and still "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory."
[12:48] <JPSmon> Usernamed: here and the forums.   Belkin is the devil.  Offers NO software
[12:48] <usernamed> I'm beginning to believe Belkin are the devil, one model number (F5D7050) and 5 different chipsets...
[12:48] <Boredom_inc> usernamed: Well forums are probably a better spot to search first, but people here can probably help
[12:49] <JPSmon> LOL
[12:49] <mohamed_> gord, i use wget -c ...url
[12:49] <nullkuhl> ifireball: either with basic or massive effects when trying to move windows system freezes at once but when trying other effects like fading and minimizing effects works fine
[12:49] <crashanddie> kebab, ln -s /usr/src/`uname -r` /usr/src/linux
[12:49] <Boredom_inc> Lol I'm so confused why is everybodys upgrades bigger than the iso.... Mine wasn't Ls
[12:49] <crashanddie> kebab, sudo that
[12:49] <JPSmon> wonder if there is any local linux guru's I can hire in my town
[12:50] <crashanddie> JPSmon, what's your local town ?
[12:50] <Kirby> what should fps be in glxgears in norm?
[12:50] <gord> mohamed_:aha good. then u can probably save the file into the torrent location and it will pick it up fro there :)
[12:50] <iKernel> JPSmon which town are you in
[12:50] <HardyOne> JPSmon: you can become your local linux guru
[12:50] <usernamed> Basically, I'm running lsusb -v and getting the following two lines...
[12:50] <gord> mohamed_:it will find it and resume from maybe 80% (a guess)
[12:50] <kebab> crashanddie: actually I think I have a different problem, need to go
[12:50] <usernamed> iManufacturer           1 Manufacturer_Realtek
[12:50] <usernamed>   iProduct                2 Belkin Wireless G USB Adapter
[12:50] <mohamed_> thx, gord i will try
[12:51] <crashanddie> kebab, seems the symlink isn't there, have the same problem, issue what I said, should work
[12:51] <ifireball> nullkuhl: sounds like a bug... or a faulty GFX card
[12:51] <usernamed> I'm guessing Realtek do more than one chipset, how do I narrow down what I've got?
[12:51] <nullkuhl> hmmm
[12:51] <HardyOne> JPSmon: perhaps geeksquad is in your area ?
[12:51] <iKernel> usernamed, what problem do you have?
[12:51] <xhamahx> hello, i am using a dell m1330 laptop, when i installed ubuntu, i hav trouble using the internal mic, can anyone help me
[12:52] <kebab> crashanddie: still "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory." have to go now, sorry
[12:52] <gord> mohamed_: if not dont delete the file u have so far, it may be possible, just ask again if u have problems, someone will help, say u have incomplete wget-ed file and someone might have an idea :) w'salam
[12:52] <usernamed> lsusb shows the belkin device, but there's no wlan0 or other network device
[12:52] <guitarj1d> iKar, installing I will let you know "Type "chmod +x example.run" (press enter).
[12:52] <guitarj1d> 4.  Now type "./example.run", press enter, and the installer will run."
[12:52] <LainIwakura> Hello, can someone help me configure my broadcom chipset? The wiki page is not helpful. Thanks.
[12:52] <crashanddie> kebab, you must have messed up the command I gave you
[12:52] <ifireball> nullkuhl: try playing a game with effects off, I don't really know which 3D games are bundled with Ubuntu though, check the Add/Remove applet
[12:52] <mohamed_> thx gord, salam :)
[12:53] <JPSmon> HardyOne: geeksquad only installs stereos for rich old people
[12:53] <Glas`Awyr> I am apparently a failure.
[12:53] <mademelaugh> LainIwakura, what does hwinfo say
[12:53] <NekoKun> Can I add drivers to hardy's mini.iso?
[12:53] <marvxxx> just upgraded to hardy and my flash plugin in firefox doesnt have sound no more..any ideas?
[12:53] <iKernel> usernamed ah, is it the belkin wireless usb?
[12:53] <Nuc134rB0t> usernamed, type lspci
[12:53] <usernamed> iKernel, It certainly is
[12:53] <Pord> any1 else having driver issues with ati graphics cards?
[12:53] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: Does everything else have sound? eg. Totem etc.?
[12:53] <HardyOne> JPSmon: hehe is that so? I just remember seeing the cars on the road thinking I need to get a job with those guys
[12:53] <harveyd> how do you enable modules in apache installed in ubuntu?
[12:53] <iKernel> usernamed I doubt you'll have much luck with usb wireless, I'd recccommend buying a dlink card with an atheros chipset
[12:54] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: yep...but i found a thread at forums
[12:54] <harveyd> i remember it had a funny command line helped, but cant find / remember the name
[12:54] <LainIwakura> mademelaugh: i'm not booted in ubuntu now.. will ifconfig, iwconfig, lshw -C network, lspci, or lsmod suffice (those of which I have written down)
[12:54] <ere4si> NekoKun: the mini iso is the net install  - most apps are d/loaded
[12:54] <HardyOne> harveyd: restart apache after you add the modules to your .conf
[12:54] <iKernel> usernamed anything with an atheros chipset will do actually, best to get one that goes into PCI port
[12:54] <xhamahx> hello, i am using a dell m1330 laptop, when i installed ubuntu, i hav trouble using the internal mic, can anyone help me
[12:54] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: lol ok
[12:54] <NekoKun> ere4si: But I need some basic drivers... even to the wireless...
[12:54] <usernamed> the case is such that the graphics card coolling hangs over the one remaining pci slot, no pci expansion possible :(
[12:54] <snask> xhamahx, what soundcard do you got?
[12:54] <iKernel> usernamed and I know the nature of new linux users, they will fight trying to make their current hardware work instead of buying something else. but the better option is to go out and buy something else
[12:54] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: i will check
[12:54] <plagerism> Is there anyway to automatically set the execute bit on oridinary files ala umask or any other means?
[12:55] <crashanddie> xhamahx, could be please explain more "having troubles" isn't an error message
[12:55] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: works
[12:55] <ifireball> harveyd, HardyOne: if its apache2 there is a command a2-something (use tab...)
[12:55] <ere4si> NekoKun: then the mini iso won't be appropriate for you afaik
[12:55] <iKar> oki I downloaded drivers and Im waiting thx 4 command
[12:55] <crashanddie> plagerism, chmod +x file
[12:55] <usernamed> iKernel, is there no USB solution possible?
[12:55] <Glas`Awyr> I'm going to have one more poke at this. If I can't get xChat running on my machine there is no hope for me.
[12:55] <ToM-X> Hey, Can someone take a look at this for me. I want to know if my WIFI now works without Ndiswrapper http://i29.tinypic.com/14b6jqe.png
[12:55] <HardyOne> ifireball: no idea. just know that apache needs to be rehashed/restarted anytime you add something to it
[12:55] <Ravenkin> Can you use a KDE application on a Gnome system?
[12:55] <harveyd> a2enmod
[12:55] <xhamahx> i mean, ubuntu itself dont detect the mic,
[12:55] <harveyd> thats it, thanks
[12:55] <plagerism> crashanddie: ala umask, as in automatically upon creation
[12:56] <ifireball> harveyd: a2enmod
[12:56] <crashanddie> plagerism, no, why would you need it ?
[12:56] <iKernel> usernamed probably, but the belkin usb is very crap anyway, and drops out frequently. I had to install the drivers on windows frequently whenever it stopped working
[12:56] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: This is the standard flash plugin yes? As in adobes?
[12:56] <iKernel> usernamed, so even if you can  get it working, it will probably not be worth it
[12:56] <ere4si> Ravenkin: you can but alot of extras will be d/loaded to make it work
[12:56] <beniamino> how do i control what meta-release file is used? every time i run update-manager on hardy, i get 'current dist not found in meta-release file'
[12:56] <Ravenkin> ere4si thanks
[12:56] <Boredom_inc> Does anyone know which mixed flash plugin uses by default... eg. ALSA
[12:56] <ere4si> k
[12:56] <ToM-X> Anyone lol?
[12:57] <crashanddie> plagerism, only the program that creates the file can set given bits on it, the samba server allows you to set execute bits, but you need to go through it
[12:57] <ifireball> HardyOne: yeah, but you don't need to actually tweak the conf file since the apache2 config is modular, you have symlink directories a-la /etc/rc*.d
[12:57] <Batch> #ubuntu - I installed the correct drivers using ndisgtk, It said there WAS hardware for it so i don't see why the light should stay orange. I also modprobed.
[12:57] <iKernel> ToM-X what?
[12:57] <Glas`Awyr> I am in the Add/Remove Applications window. I can see xChat. I click it, and it tells me "The list of applications is not available"
[12:57] <usernamed> iKernel, thanks for the advice.  All, if anyone knows of a usb solution that works out of the box with Ubuntu I'd greatly appreciate it.
[12:57] <HardyOne> ifireball: my answer was very general I realise. but he got the jist I think
[12:57] <iKernel> Batch, have tried scanning around for aps?
[12:57] <mademelaugh> Glas`Awyr, try sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:58] <mademelaugh> !info xchat
[12:58] <ubotu> xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 301 kB, installed size 808 kB
[12:58] <ToM-X> iKernel: I just install 8.04 and seen this on the restricted hardware http://i29.tinypic.com/14b6jqe.png    does mean I can use my WIFI without NDISWRAPPER?
[12:58] <Oprtz> if i want to show screenshot to someone? how to do that? which website to use?
[12:58] <Batch> iKernel: Yes, No scan results
[12:58] <Batch> Even though i am 1 metre away from the router.
[12:58] <HardyOne> !repositories | Glas`Awyr  enable Universe and Multiverse if you have not done so
[12:58] <Glas`Awyr> "E: Couldn't find package xchat"
[12:58] <ubotu> Glas`Awyr  enable Universe and Multiverse if you have not done so: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:58] <crashanddie> usernamed, I'd suggest you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:58] <iKernel> ToM-X what kind of wifi do you have?
[12:58] <beniamino> can someone with a fresh hardy install tell me the contents of the file /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts ?
[12:58] <usernamed> thanks crashanddie!
[12:59] <iKernel> ToM-X ah-ha, atheros. Yes, with atheros you can easily use your wifi card without ndiswrapper. download madwifi
[12:59] <iKar> Iv got some engenius wi fi will it work?
[12:59] <Boredom_inc> im going to boot... good luck with the troubles everyone... bye
[13:00] <iKernel> iKar depends
[13:00] <ifireball> HardyOne: blah blah <insert comment about how we always rush to give the old command line ways of doing stuff when Ubuntu typically includes an easier way, thus making ppl think its harder then it is>
[13:00] <psych> ubuntu guys did a fine job
[13:00] <snask> whatś the best and easyest audio streaming program för ubuntu?  with gui
[13:00] <iKar> iKErnel:On what?
[13:00] <psych> hardy is smooth
[13:00] <ToM-X> iKernel: When I try to install xen-restricted-modules-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 it says: Depends: xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0  but it is not installable Any Idea?
[13:00] <iKernel> iKar on what kind of chisep it is
[13:00] <crashanddie> snask, gmplayer ?
[13:01] <HardyOne> ifireball: point taken and I will from now on try to not jump in when not certain of an answer :)
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X why are you trying to install xen modules? are you running an xen kernel?
[13:01] <snask> crashanddie, ill try it =)
[13:01] <psych> why totem work so bad
[13:01] <nxusr>  is there anyone else out there having problem with ndiswrapper and teh newer kernels diabling the device irq on boot?
[13:01] <psych> :/
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X seach in synaptic package manageer for madwifi, you may have to enable some repositories
[13:01] <iKar> iKernel:its engenius usb antenna and how to find on wich chipset?
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X if you can't find madwifi, tell me and I'll help further, it may not even be out yet
[13:01] <iKernel> for hardy
[13:02] <gord> mohamed_: i just had a thought, wget shouldn't over write the old file by default, (as long as size+filename+datestamps are the same) so you could try wget -c }differentserver/filename{ again and see what happens, but copy the file somewhere first to maske sure. I wasnt thinking straight, i assumed at first you had used something horrible like windozeIE do download it, wget is very good, i think it will just work, starting at the offset fro
[13:02] <gord> m the filesize u have
[13:02] <mademelaugh> !apt-list
[13:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-list - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:02] <f0rmat> why is it that every file i create in my htdocs folder i have to change the permissions for anyone on the web to see it
[13:02] <f0rmat> ?
[13:02] <nxusr>  is there anyone else out there having problem with ndiswrapper and the newer kernels disabling the device irq on boot?
[13:02] <ibleed> if i encrypt a partition on my hard drive can i have it so it doesn't automatically mount on boot ?
[13:02] <Batch> Also, When i use "ndiswrapper -l" it shows the driver bcmw15 as installed, So i don't see what the problem is
[13:02] <iKar> (2:01:30 PM) iKar: iKernel:its engenius usb antenna and how to find on wich chipset?
[13:02] <crashanddie> gord, wget will not resume by default, but create a different file
[13:02] <iKernel> nxusr no but personally, I wouldn't use any card that requires ndiswrapper. Find a card with an atheros chipset
[13:02] <ToM-X> iKernel: No, I only see Madwifi Tools.
[13:03] <Ravenkin> Anyone know of a front end for Cron?
[13:03] <crashanddie> iKar, lspci -v
[13:03] <nxusr> iKernel, not much of a choice, came with the notebook
[13:03] <iKernel> ToM-X, right, install madwifi tools, and tell me if it selects any other packages due to dependicies
[13:03] <MadJawa> I can't update some sources
[13:03] <gord> <crashanddie: will the -nc help? i dont recall much wget-tiness today
[13:03] <iKar> iKernel:No money :D
[13:04] <ToM-X> iKernel: No, It just installed on it's own.
[13:04] <DracoZA> why if I try to sudo do I get the message unable to resolve host ?
[13:04] <iKernel> ToM-X right, let me google around for a moment
[13:04] <ToM-X> Thanks.
[13:05] <jtravnick> MadJawa, what sources are you having problems with?
[13:05] <crashanddie> gord, it will rewrite or simply refuse to download, depending on the situation (timestamp, etc)
[13:05] <iKernel> ToM-X search for linux-restricted-modules
[13:05] <gord> crashanddie: he's already using wget -c    u suu, to continue it, its the change of server address he was worrying about
[13:05] <chazco> Can someone confirm it is now possible to skip the 30th-boot fsck by pressing a key?
[13:05] <iKernel> ToM-X oh, and open up a terminal and tell me the output of uname -r
[13:05] <crashanddie> gord, it's the same filename, so -c will always resume
[13:06] <ere4si> chazco: the escape key has always worked for me
[13:06] <bXi> does anyone know the difference between vanilla firefox and ubuntu firefox?
[13:06] <DracoZA> anyone have an idea why I cant use sudo ?
[13:06] <chazco> ere4si - Never worked for me, seems to be offering the option now in Hardy :)
[13:06] <crashanddie> DracoZA, no, but I'm sure an error message will help us
[13:06] <mademelaugh> DracoZA, why
[13:06] <ToM-X> iKernel: 2.6.24-16-generic and I have just searched.
[13:06] <DracoZA> crashanddie, few lines up..I get unable to resolve hostname
[13:06] <MadJawa> jtravnick: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release.gpg (timed out)
[13:06] <MadJawa> and other too
[13:06] <iKernel> ToM-X did any packages come up?
[13:06] <mademelaugh> DracoZA, i think you need to edit /etc/sudoers
[13:06] <dredhammer> anyone know how to enable the nvidia closed drivers for hardy in the latest kernel?
[13:07] <ifireball> bXi: quite a few of then, Ubuntu FF for example supports installing plugins/extensions from *.deb files
[13:07] <iKernel> mademelaugh how can he do that without root priveledges though?
[13:07] <newcomer008> hallo
[13:07] <SimplySeth> how do I set to boot at runlevel 3 (command line)
[13:07] <crashanddie> DracoZA, did you change the name of your computer ?
[13:07] <iKernel> SimplySeth edit /etc/inittab
[13:07] <newcomer008> hello everybody
[13:07] <DracoZA> crashanddie, not from the install name
[13:07] <ToM-X> iKernel: Yes 18 restricted modules.
[13:07] <iKernel> SimplySeth edit the id:: part
[13:07] <thiagoss> Where can I find the hashes for the ubuntu 8.04 images?
[13:07] <bXi> ifireball: i'm having issues with some javascript/php which only gets triggered when using the firefox in ubuntu
[13:08] <HardyOne> !runlevel
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <SimplySeth> iKernel: funny thing .. didn't find it :-/ .. mebbe it was brain gas .. lemme look again
[13:08] <newcomer008> can someone help me with wlan pls? :( dosnt work
[13:08] <mademelaugh> iKernel, god, didn't install ubuntu yourself
[13:08] <iKernel> ToM-X ok, take a screenshot and upload it somewhere for me
[13:08] <gord_>  crashanddie: yeah i told him to put the half-baked file into a torrent client and see if it picked up from there anyways
[13:08] <damo22> can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/d1d6f191e
[13:08] <wookienz> should i install an irc server on ubunutu server at home of just create a channel on this irc server?
[13:08] <nikitis> Question:  When dual booting windows xp and ubuntu, does your root partion have to have a boot flag?
[13:08] <iKernel> SimplySeth, try locate inittab
[13:08] <SimplySeth> iKernel: aight .. thanks
[13:08] <wookienz> and any suggestions for an irc server for my home server...
[13:08] <wib> hi. i have some performance issues during video playback. the fan is going crazy :( it was fine under feisty
[13:09] <crashanddie> DracoZA, I remember being unable to sudo once, after changing the hostname, try rebooting, if doesn't work, you're going have to boot from another medium, mount partition, and find out what happened
[13:09] <iKernel> wib, are you running any other programs?
[13:09] <crashanddie> DracoZA, but without more information, nor anything you did, we won't be able to help, sorry
[13:09] <nikitis> Anyone?
[13:09] <crashanddie> nikitis, yes
[13:09] <gilster32> hello
[13:09] <iKernel> nikitis no it doesn't
[13:09] <ToM-X> iKernel: http://i30.tinypic.com/2z754ec.png
[13:09] <mademelaugh> crashanddie, hostname mismatch?
[13:09] <iKernel> nikitis only your boot partition has to have a boot flag
[13:09] <wib> iKernel: just firefox, pidgin, evolution
[13:09] <mademelaugh> !hostname
[13:09] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[13:10] <ifireball> bXi: well, check the versions, the Ubuntu version may be slightly older, can you give more details about your problem?
[13:10] <iKernel> nikitis however if you're booting straight to your root partition instead of having a seperate boot partition, then yes
[13:10] <gilster32> looking for info on getting gui support in one of the burning apps for old DVD-RAM discs....anyone know about this.
[13:10] <reymelsk88> windows rules  :P
[13:10] <wib> iKernel: and compiz
[13:10] <nikitis> iKernel: My windows partition has a boot flag, but my /boot doesn't  Would this cause an error 17 in Grub?
[13:10] <snp> Just make sure that the linux-restricted-modules are installed.
[13:10] <iKernel> gilster32 why use GUI when you can just use cdrecord
[13:10] <snp> how would i go about doing thatr?
[13:10] <bXi> ifireball: basicly i use mootools to POST a form
[13:10] <bXi> to a php page
[13:10] <newcomer008> iKernel: can u halp me with wlan plz? seems like you know about ubuntu well
[13:10] <damo22> can someone help me with jackd under hardy? http://pastebin.com/d1d6f191e
[13:10] <crashanddie> newcomer008, what's the matter ?
[13:10] <jerzyk86>  i have GF 8800gt with auto cooling FAN, in windows its very quaiet, but in linux it is runing alweys 100%, how can i make it lower ??
[13:10] <sarkie> Hi, just upgraded to Hardy, and done an update check now it says 177 updates, there was a partial upgrade or something else. This is wrong I assume
[13:10] <iKernel> nikitis yes, absouloutely
[13:11] <DracoZA> crashanddie, I typed sudo after logging in for the first time, brand new install and I get unknown host
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel:thats fine....how do i use cdrecord with DVD-RAM discs
[13:11] <bXi> when i print_r($_POST) i dont see anything while firebug tells me the data is what i expect
[13:11] <iKernel> wib ah-ha, compiz. were you running compiz with feisty?
[13:11] <newcomer008> crashanddie: my AVM wlan stick doesnt work
[13:11] <bXi> this only happens on firefox 2 and 3b5
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel:i need to format them as UDF
[13:11]  * SimplySeth wonders if anyone else's gdm got hosed after upgrading :-/
[13:11] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you 'cat /etc/hostname' and tell me what it says ?
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 should just be able to stick the dvd-ram stick in and go cdrecord blah.iso
[13:11] <ifireball> bXi: btw the gory details of changes Ubuntu made are in: /usr/share/doc/firefox/changelog.Debian.gz
[13:11] <wib> iKernel: yes. and it was gutsy, my mistake
[13:11] <bXi> the ubuntu versions of firefox that is
[13:11] <crashanddie> newcomer008, please explain "doesn't work", we need real error messages
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel: no
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 you'll need soemthing to create the iso file though
[13:11] <jtravnick> MadJawa, you sure thats a valid source? also if you did an upgrade make sure your third party sources say hardy and not gutsy
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 what do you mean, "no"?
[13:12] <newcomer008> crashanddie: first ubuntu see the wlans near me, but if i try to connect ubuntu crashes
[13:12] <ToM-X> iKernel: http://i30.tinypic.com/2z754ec.png
[13:12] <crashanddie> newcomer008, which driver are you using ? Which version ? Which chipset ?
[13:12] <swamy> can anyone tell me how upgrade gutsy to hardy using aptitude command line
[13:12] <crashanddie> swamy, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <gilster32> ikernel: this is not a stick. i bought a long time ago a packet of DVD-RAM dvds. i want to erase them and formate them, must have a UDF filesystem.
[13:13] <newcomer008> crashanddie: im runnig an ibm t30 notebook with the new ubuntu 8.04 and the avm wlan usb stick
[13:13] <iKernel> swamy first change your apt.sources file to the hardy sources, then run apt-get update, then run apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:13] <DracoZA> crashanddie, it says "Thumper" which is the name of the machine
[13:13] <ifireball> bXi: the  print_r($_POST) command is a PHP command right?
[13:13] <SimplySeth> iKernel: its official .. I have no inittab
[13:13] <crashanddie> newcomer008, which version of the driver ?
[13:13] <NekoKun> ere4si: About the mini install, well, not even USB drivers are loaded?
[13:13] <newcomer008> crashanddie: and i use the preinstalled driver
[13:13] <swamy> crashhanddie: i did but sources are not available
[13:13] <mouseclon1> hello everyone
[13:13] <gilster32> ikernel: are you familiar with DVD-RAM media?
[13:13] <crashanddie> newcomer008, I don't know all the drivers by heart, can you try to find out ? Or at least give me the chipset name of your usb wifi dongle
[13:14] <MadJawa> jtravnick: it seems that the french servers are a bit laggy at this time
[13:14] <iKernel> ToM-X ok, looks like you've already got linux-restricted installed, have you been into the restricted drivers manager yet?
[13:14] <mouseclon1> I joined 8.04 to AD.  Now I'm unable to sudo anything.  Any ideas?
[13:14] <MadJawa> I think I should wait
[13:14] <ere4si> NekoKun: it is all about getting the necessaries from the net - so it uses minimal resources
[13:14] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ill try out to find find out what driver it exactly is
[13:14] <iKernel> gilster32 yes I am, it is used in cam corder and can be repetadly written to without having to blank the disk
[13:14] <swamy> iKernel: i did aptitude update and then aptitude full-upgrade, but links are not avalaible
[13:14] <mademelaugh> ere4si, hello, how are you doing
[13:14] <ifireball> bXi: not sure how trustworthy is firebug here, I'd try to sniff the communications, but that may be a rather radical approach, do you get any errors in the JS console?
[13:14] <crashanddie> DracoZA, hang on, what command are you executing with sudo ?
[13:14] <iKernel> swamy you're in trouble then :)
[13:14] <manawenuz> @all i just wanted some help in configuring a PPTP VPN server under ubuntu 7.10 server , can anyone help me so i can connect to this server via windows client ???
[13:14] <crashanddie> DracoZA, sudo echo "test"
[13:14] <chazco> Hi... is this correct for mediabuntu - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[13:14] <iKernel> swamy did you try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:14] <scizzo-> swamy: tried using do-release-upgrade ?
[13:14] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sudo nano
[13:15] <NekoKun> ere4si: yes, but, it needs to be on a lan... in my case the best option would be a wireless connection
[13:15] <Batch> Lol, I've been patient but the room isn't quietening down xD
[13:15] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sudo echo gives the same error
[13:15] <gilster32> ikernel:thats correct. but i cant write to it with any old prgram like cdrecord or k3b etc. unless i have them formatted to udf.
[13:15] <N1NCHN41L5> can anyone help me dual boot a Linux OS
[13:15] <snp> Just make sure that the linux-restricted-modules are installed.
[13:15] <snp> how would i go about doing thatr?
[13:15] <mouseclon1> or could someone point me in a direction to get sudo working with AD?
[13:15] <bXi> ifireball: everything is fine otherwise just that it doesnt show.. weirdest is that firefox <IP_ADDRESS> in windows works and an older firefox on a custom linux distro also works
[13:15] <intrinsyx> Howdy folks. I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little tray icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. Would anyone happen to know?
[13:15] <ere4si> NekoKun: try the alternate cd then - I don't think the mini cd will do that
[13:15] <ifireball> bXi: could your Ubuntu FF contain other plug-ins that may be in the way?  noscript, etc. ?
[13:15] <DracoZA> crashanddie, in fact just typing sudo gives me unable to resolve hostname
[13:15] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you paste the exact error ?
[13:15] <ToM-X> iKernel: Is "Hardware Drivers" the restricted driver manager in 8.04 is it not?
[13:15] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: You will need to install windows first
[13:15] <swamy> can anyne tell me from which mirror i should upgrade my gutsy to hardy
[13:16] <manawenuz> @all i just wanted some help in configuring a PPTP VPN server under ubuntu 7.10 server , can anyone help me so i can connect to this server via windows client ???
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: then install linux
[13:16] <crashanddie> DracoZA, (if it's one line only)
[13:16] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah it is
[13:16] <garu> hey everyone
[13:16] <bXi> ifireball: only extra plugin i had was greasemonkey but i removed that one now
[13:16] <dagon_> swamy; just run it with update-manager
[13:16] <iKernel> gilster32 what's the problem with formatting to udf then
[13:16] <ToM-X> iKernel: It is still the same.
[13:16] <DracoZA> crashanddie, "sudo: unable to resolve host Thumper"
[13:16] <ere4si> madamelaugh: I always do well
[13:16] <gilster32> ikernel:thats what i am trying to do ;-)
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: if you have Vista it may ba a little hairy.. I have only done 95, 98, and XP for windows dual boot
[13:16] <ifireball> bXi: what I wonder is if the data is posted at all, maybe something about the post triggers other behavior from PHP
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: but windows has to be on the MBR
[13:16] <iKernel> gilster32 oh, right. not sure, sorry
[13:16] <intrinsyx> "Restricted Driver Manager" is now "jockey-gtk"/"Hardware Drivers" in hardy.
[13:17] <swamy> i not able to dist-upgrade gutsy since links are not available
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, ok, I think I know what this is about
[13:17] <broonie> I'm probably being really thick here but I can't seem to figure out how to drag and drop files in Hardy.
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you cat /etc/hosts and paste the output to a pastebin ?
[13:17] <N1NCHN41L5> mousecion - dual booting vista w/out sp1 is EASY
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, or just the first two lines (127.x.x.x)
[13:17] <bXi> ifireball: thats what i'd like to know
[13:17] <dagon_> swamy; run a terminal, sudo update-manager and it should pop up there. did you try that?
[13:18] <bXi> gonna try wireshark
[13:18] <garu> I just made a fresh install of the 8.04 LTS, and something I noticed is that, there was no updates available after restarting the system.Can someone tell me why, or is my system going nuts? THANKS
[13:18] <ifireball> bXi: good luck
[13:18] <N1NCHN41L5> no i have a 20g hdd  almost half to ubuntu - and i want to fill the other three partitions ext3 with puppy and puplets
[13:18] <intrinsyx> I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little *tray* icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. (No, it's not the one in gnome-applets, called cpufreq-selector)  Would anyone happen to know?
[13:18] <ToM-X> iKernel: Shall I just try and compile and Install?
[13:18] <swamy> can anyne tell me from which mirror i should upgrade my gutsy to hardy
[13:18] <swamy> please  help me
[13:19] <intrinsyx> garu: 8.04 was just released this morning, there are no updates yet.
[13:19] <gotenks> i doubt there would be many(if any) updates to hardy, since its been out for not even 1 day
[13:19] <N1NCHN41L5> i tried an when i loaded muppy008 it tore up GRUB an NADA worked
[13:19] <iKernel> gilster32 you might find this interesting, http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-udf/
[13:19] <crashanddie> swamy, a local mirror
[13:19] <DracoZA> crashanddie, Line 1 "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost" Line 2 "<IP_ADDRESS> Thumper.ZATRM"
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, bingo
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you gksudo /etc/hosts ?
[13:19] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah, you're going to need the kernel sources though
[13:19] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ive copied the part of syslog which is about the wlan stick i just put in. here it is: http://pastebin.com/d1b0e484b
[13:19] <garu> intrinsyx humn...thanks!I thought it came out yesterday!lol
[13:19] <beniamino> can i switch apt-get to to a local mirror? is there a mirror in the uk?
[13:19] <iKernel> ToM-X while I've been sucessful in doing that, it may require a little bit of experience in linux
[13:19] <newcomer008> crashanddie: hope it says oemthing helpful
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[13:19] <intrinsyx> swamy: open up "Software Sources" and pick something else from the "Download from" box
[13:19] <N1NCHN41L5> ints in - right click on bar on screen add item and its in there
[13:20] <intrinsyx> swamy: pick "Other" and then click the Best Server button.
[13:20] <DracoZA> crashanddie, ok im in
[13:20] <crashanddie> DracoZA, ok, edit the second line
[13:20] <ifireball> bXi: did you check if the data may have been sent with GET rather then POST ?
[13:20] <ToM-X> iKernel: Where would I get/enable these sources?
[13:20] <crashanddie> DracoZA, "<IP_ADDRESS> Thumper.ZATRM Thumper"
[13:20] <intrinsyx> garu: To me, it's not yesterday until I go to sleep... LOL, sorry!
[13:21] <swamy> i am unable to dist-upgrade
[13:21] <DracoZA> crashanddie, ok done
[13:21] <Batch> I've installed the bcmw15 driver using ndisgtk, and also modprobed it. But the light never turns blue :S Any suggestions?
[13:21] <swamy> ikernel: yes i did
[13:21] <arvind_khadri> swamy, that should update-mabager -d
[13:21] <crashanddie> DracoZA, save, try to sudo
[13:21] <arvind_khadri> swamy, that should update-manager -d
[13:21] <crashanddie> DracoZA, if same error, reboot
[13:21] <iKernel> ToM-X should be able to search for linux-sources in synaptic
[13:21] <swamy> iKernel: i am in trouble
[13:21] <crashanddie> newcomer008, hang on, looking into it, gimme a sec
[13:21] <garu> I'm having a problem I didnt use to have with the previous version...Basically, I cannot enable my restricted drivers.It recognised it, and downloaded it and installed it.Its in use, but it's not enabled, and in terms of graphics is really weird because of that.Can someone help?THANKS
[13:21] <iKernel> swamy yes you are :)
[13:21] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sorry just noticed first line <IP_ADDRESS> and second is <IP_ADDRESS> is that correct ?
[13:22] <crashanddie> DracoZA, yeah that's fine
[13:22] <garu> intrinsyx yeah, ur right.lol
[13:22] <N1NCHN41L5> If anyone can help me load puppy linux to its own partition of the hd with ubuntu already running PLEASE PM ME
[13:22] <newcomer008> crashanddie: no prob, just take the time u need :)
[13:22] <yaroslav> Hi everyone. Is it safe to upgrade production servers now or update servers are slow as hell atm?
[13:22] <intrinsyx> yaroslav: us.archive.ubuntu.org is still slow as fsck.
[13:22] <crashanddie> swamy, stop asking, use a local mirror, check the mirror list on the Ubuntu.com website, find something close to you, and stick to it.
[13:22] <Derspankster> slow
[13:22] <DracoZA> crashanddie, thanks its working fine, what a strange problem :)
[13:22] <ere4si> yaroslav: wait a day or two :)
[13:23] <iKernel> god, there are SO many people here
[13:23] <ToM-X> iKernel: linux-source-2.6.24  ?
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, you upgraded from gutsy to hardy, no ?
[13:23] <swamy> iKernel: is hardy stable released  or is it in testing phase
[13:23] <iKernel> ToM-X that's the one :)
[13:23] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: You got me on that one.  I have yet to try and dual boot multi *nix systems.  Though I should.. I just have a laptop or 2 that I can blow away at any time needed for a different OS
[13:23] <Batch> Rofl
[13:23] <DracoZA> crashanddie, brand new install
[13:23] <ObiTeh1> Ubuntu 8.04... Awesome! Compiz Fusion finally works with my card! <3 Love it!
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, weird
[13:23] <stahlstift> Hello there, how can I automount my second harddrive in 8.04. In 7.10 it automatically mounted my drives to the desktop
[13:23] <DracoZA> crashanddie, indeed
[13:23] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, its due to the new release
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, maybe you should try to file a bug or something
[13:23] <intrinsyx> yaroslav: Switch over to another mirror and it's pretty fast. I'm using archive.linux.duke.edu and getting ~500KB/sec
[13:23] <iKernel> ObiTeh1 great! now try to get it working with xfce4! good luck, you'll need it :)
[13:23] <red_> hi. help me fix my net connection. its very slow. i have disabled ipv6 already and no luck. pls
[13:23] <iKernel> arvind_khadri I'm aware of that.
[13:24] <ifireball> yaroslav: if you have more then one server you should consider using a proxy repository anyway
[13:24] <intrinsyx> red_: It's not you, it's the servers.
[13:24] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, :)
[13:24] <ObiTeh1> iKernel, heh, maybe at a later date. :P
[13:24] <yaroslav> ifireball: i have 4, but they are all hosted VPSes :-/
[13:24] <iKernel> arvind_khadri i'm giving my bit to the community by helping people out, even though i don't currently use ubuntu :)
[13:24] <Batch> My turn?
[13:24] <Batch> :P
[13:24] <intrinsyx> red_: Switch mirrors or wait a day or two.
[13:24] <Batch> I've installed the bcmw15 driver using ndisgtk, and also modprobed it. But the light never turns blue :S Any suggestions?
[13:24] <iKernel> Batch wlanconfig
[13:24] <ifireball> yaroslav: I see.
[13:24] <rafelbev> i would like to update my hardy heron from beta to release, but i don't have X installed. how can I do it without the update-manager ?
[13:24] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, thats really nice of you...so you must be a debian guy
[13:25] <N1NCHN41L5> mousecion can i pm u?
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri yes actually
[13:25] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it says the stick got deactivated, did you deactivate it ?
[13:25] <DracoZA> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer writes resolutions to xorg.conf ?
[13:25] <red_> intrinsyx: not really the ubuntu servers i am having problem. even web browsing is slow. my gutsy didnt have this prob
[13:25] <intrinsyx> rafelbev: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:25] <bXi> ifireball: its being sent with post
[13:25] <crashanddie> newcomer008, also, you wouldn't have older logs ? Possibly from when you had a freeze ?
[13:25] <Batch> iKernel - Sec, Installing madwifi-tools
[13:25] <newcomer008> crash, nope. it happens simly w/o reason :(
[13:25] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, aah knew it ...its really very nice of you...debain actually kinda hates ubuntu
[13:25] <NekoKun> !alternate
[13:25] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri actually, I got really excited by the hostname thing from the bot, im going to try that when i next get into debian
[13:25] <newcomer008> crashanddie: i only put it into the slot, nothing more
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri yeah I know, but I can still help :)
[13:25] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:25] <zrex> Anyone know why the FONTS LOOK SMUDGY on Ubuntu v 8.04
[13:25] <yaroslav> BTW how does one update to kubuntu with KDE4 on board? I saw a note that is possible but no instructions
[13:26] <NekoKun> ere4si: What comes with the minimal? Or there's only bash and apt-get?
[13:26] <intrinsyx> rafelbev: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:26] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to decrease the icon spacing on the desktop?????
[13:26] <ifireball> bXi: according to the sniffed data?
[13:26] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:26] <Myrtti> indian_munnda: dist-upgrade isn't recommended
[13:26] <iKernel> !hostname
[13:26] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[13:26] <garu> intrinsyx any idea on why restricted drivers are downloaded sucessfully, and are in use, but if its enabled, after the system is restarted, I get no desktop after the loading screen?
[13:26] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: same thing
[13:26] <newcomer008> crashanddie: but i still can see my wlan-network at my home. when i try to connect now ubuntu will simply load all the time and i cannot do anything more
[13:26] <N1NCHN41L5> ANY HELP DUAL BOOTING LINUX OS's
[13:26] <dredhammer> anyone figure out how to install the closed nvidia drivers if you did not do a clean install?
[13:26]  * intrinsyx shrugs
[13:26] <Myrtti> indian_munnda: sorry
[13:26] <red_> intrinsyx: is my problem out of ubuntu scope?
[13:27] <ere4si> NekoKun: it is just a means of connecting to the packages - a basic means at that
[13:27] <Myrtti> intrinsyx: dist-upgrade isn't recommended
[13:27] <intrinsyx> tar up your homedir and do a clean install.
[13:27] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5 yeah, easy, but only once you stop using caps
[13:27] <Batch> iKernel: I did : wlanconfig eth1, Is this correct?
[13:27] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it doesn't crash anymore ?
[13:27] <rafelbev> Myrtti: what is ?
[13:27] <iKernel> Batch, try a wlanconfig list
[13:27] <indian_munnda> Myrtti: it's okay
[13:27] <Myrtti> rafelbev: update-manager -c
[13:27] <rafelbev> Myrtti: i don't have update-manager
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> N1NCHN41L5, ok
[13:27] <bXi> ifireball: the sniffed data doesnt tell me anything :/
[13:27] <intrinsyx> Myrtti: update-manager requires X.
[13:27] <amerio> obnibolongo mate u still there?
[13:28] <Myrtti> intrinsyx: dist-upgrade still isn't recommended
[13:28] <crashanddie> newcomer008, there seems to be a bug in the driver for you usb stick, there is a work around, everything is explained here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/200589
[13:28] <DracoZA> I think i'm gonna stick to 7.10 for a little while longer :)
[13:28] <rafelbev> Myrtti: this is a server
[13:28] <Batch> iKernel: Unable to get station information, I did "wlanconfig eth1 list"
[13:28] <bXi> hmmmmmm
[13:28] <ToM-X> iKernel: I have installed it, am I ok to compile Madwifi and install?
[13:28] <mademelaugh> Myrtti, shouln't it be updat-manager -d
[13:28] <indian_munnda> Myrtti: can you tell me how to decrease the icon spacing on the desktop?????
[13:28] <mademelaugh> update
[13:28] <crashanddie> DracoZA, why is that ? New problem ?
[13:28] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah, you might get error though, tell me if you do
[13:28] <dmsuperman> Disabling window decorations in compiz removes my window frames completely (titlebar and border) How can I bring them back?
[13:28] <ifireball> bXi: you positing to https?
[13:28] <newcomer008> crashanddie: oh damn :O i know why it crashes. its my fault. ill configured my router do refuse new wlan components
[13:28] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: open up gconf-editor and find the gconf key.
[13:28] <bXi> ifireball: it seems as if nothing from mootools gets posted
[13:28] <roocraig> i have a problem with my screensaver preferences
[13:28]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[13:28] <f0rmat> can anyone help me with the problem i am having with created directory permissions
[13:29] <moDumassest> hey all, so i upgraded and for some reason my mp3s sound horrible
[13:29] <iKernel> Scrounch no away messages in #ubuntu please
[13:29] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ok, but thx anyways :) have a nice day
[13:29] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: how to open that?
[13:29] <rafelbev> what is the official way to upgrade ubuntu-server from beta to release ?
[13:29] <ifireball> bXi: yeah, there is probably some JS error somewhere
[13:29] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it shouldn't crash though, file a bug report will all the info you can
[13:29] <iKernel> moDumassest are you running esound ?
[13:29] <rafelbev> update-manager is geared towards desktops
[13:29] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: gconf-editor
[13:29] <crashanddie> newcomer008, the driver shouldn't freeze the whole system because it can't connect
[13:29] <amerio> guys wireless working here , with ndiswrapper , but cannot detect my network , any idea?
[13:29] <ifireball> bXi: nothing in the JS console?
[13:29] <DracoZA> crashanddie, just want to modify my screen res as it shows max 1024 and I see xorg.conf has changed, tried to run nvidia-settings and thats gone :)
[13:29] <bXi> ifireball: that might be but why only in the ubuntu firefox
[13:29] <jrib> !final > rafelbev (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:29] <newcomer008> crashanddie: kk, ill do so
[13:29] <moDumassest> iKernel, ive never heard of that,
[13:29] <grimsqueaker13> when i connect to a vnc server my keyboard input is completely garbled - does anyone know what i can do to fix this? i have check the -fp setting i think it is correct
[13:29] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: ok
[13:29] <moDumassest> leme look it up
[13:29] <roocraig> my update manager freezes also
[13:29] <moDumassest> im playing music in exaile
[13:29] <Myrtti> rafelbev: sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[13:29] <iKernel> amerio get airecrack-ng, it includes a tool that scans for available access points
[13:30] <Myrtti> rafelbev: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:30] <garu> anyone having problem with restricted drivers?
[13:30] <iKernel> amerio I forget which one though
[13:30] <iKernel> garu, yes, lots of people are :P
[13:30] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, I cannot get my wireless network to work. Can anyone help?
[13:30] <gilster32> ikernel:thanks. reading it now
[13:30] <rafelbev> Myrtti: let me check, brb
[13:30] <obnibolongo> amerio, me here but not here; done bathing, lunch now :)
[13:30] <ifireball> bXi: probably some backported anti-phishing feature or something
[13:30] <gilster32> ikernel:i think i have seen this before...udf format from cli. will give it a go
[13:30] <jrib> Myrtti: he's just updating from beta though so dist-upgrade should be enough right?
[13:30] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: hold alt, hit F2, type gconf-editor
[13:30] <amerio> iKernel whats the package name exactly?
[13:30] <roocraig> Can anyone help me with some newbie issues I am having? :)
[13:31] <garu> iKernel why is that, it just wont give me a working desktop, if I enable it?
[13:31] <Myrtti> jrib: *shrug*
[13:31] <crashanddie> DracoZA, yeah, it's been replaced, check the changelog to find what to use now
[13:31] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i got it and it has opened a new window like reg-edit in windows
[13:31] <rafelbev> Myrtti: current dist not found in meta-release file
[13:31] <Myrtti> jrib: I don't do betas :-P
[13:31] <|Dede|> How do I release my mouse, when I press Alt+ENter to get out of a full screen
[13:31] <jeanre> hi all
[13:31] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: should be somewhere around /desktop/gnome/interface
[13:31] <jeanre> does anyone here have rez-looks packages?
[13:31] <garu> iKernel because it says that its in use, but not enabled...which is weird when never gave me any problem in any of the past releases!
[13:31] <Myrtti> rafelbev: then the updates haven't probably yet reached your mirror
[13:31] <rafelbev> am using UK
[13:32] <erik__> ah
[13:32] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: Most of the gconf keys have descriptions which will tell you what the options do.
[13:32] <Myrtti> rafelbev: if you get a message saying "nothing to update" lalala
[13:32] <ifireball> bXi: since they stick to a certain FF version they backport security fixes from newer versions, this may break over-complex stuff like JS toolkits... but this is all speculation, you need to get to the JS error message somehow
[13:32] <NeT_DeMoN> i have wireless card problems, in my restricted device manager it says its in use but theres no wireless option in my connections tab :S can anyone help?
[13:32] <Myrtti> rafelbev: funky
[13:32] <|Dede|> How do I release my mouse, when I press Alt+ENter to get out of a full screen
[13:32] <erik__> so is anyone having a problem with administrative privs?
[13:32] <mademelaugh> |Dede|, right ctrl +f ? god knows
[13:32] <nickthorley> hi all - can anyone help me with my wireless - in the previous version of ubuntu i used i used the restricted driver which was recommended during install but in the new version its not there - why would they remove it
[13:32] <N1NCHN41L5> is there another ubuntu channel moves a little slower
[13:32] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i m trying
[13:32] <erik__> "unlock" button gives an unknown error...
[13:32] <ToM-X> iKernel: Right, I have compiled and installed.
[13:33] <intrinsyx> I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little *tray* icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. (No, it's not the one in gnome-applets, called cpufreq-selector)  Would anyone happen to know?
[13:33] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN same problem here =)
[13:33] <zrex> Anyone know a good DASHBOARD for UBUNTU?  Like Apple's dashboard?
[13:33] <rafelbev> Myrtti: the mirror is updated
[13:33] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: it seems to be everywhere, what driver do you have?
[13:33] <LinuxNoob04> hi rock
[13:33] <rocknrol> Hi linuxnoob04
[13:33] <LinuxNoob04> cool
[13:33] <rocknrol> hehe
[13:33] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN atheros
[13:34] <LinuxNoob04> is ja geil
[13:34] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: LOL same!
[13:34] <rocknrol> ja nnormal
[13:34] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN atheros AR242
[13:34] <iKernel> brb guys, especially ToM-X
[13:34] <bXi> ifireball: that would make sense
[13:34] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: i dont know exactly what mine is, it a toshiba laptop
[13:35] <roocraig> Help-my screensaver preferences window freezes when I launch it-any suggestions?
[13:35] <rafelbev> Myrtti: if the mirror is updated then something is wrong
[13:35] <Myrtti> rafelbev: prolly yes
[13:35] <amerio> Net_DeMoN type lspci , you can know the model under thernet controller
[13:35] <rafelbev> what should me sources.list look like ?
[13:35] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: dont i need to type 'sudo lspci' for that info?
[13:35] <Fritzel> question, would I have any side effects (except for loosing about 500mb of memory) for installing a 32 bit OS on a system with 4gb of ram?
[13:35] <intrinsyx> Eh, I'll come back in a couple days and ask again when everything with hardy's settled down.
[13:35] <rafelbev> Myrtti: what should my sources.list look like ?
[13:35] <scuderia> hi, im trying to update from ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 but it crashes when starts to download the upgrade tool (1 of 2), any alternative please?
[13:36] <intrinsyx> tar up your homedir and do a clean install
[13:36] <intrinsyx> or pull down the hardy iso and stick it in, it should offer to upgrade for you.
[13:36] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN try "lshw -C network"
[13:37] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i m able to reduce the size of the icons but i m not able to reduce the spacing.
[13:37] <chronographer> Hi. I have my root partition as reiserfx, every time I boot I get a fsck error. it comes down to: fsck died with exit status 9. i can crtl d and ubuntu starts up fine, how can I get rid of this error?
[13:37] <moDumassest> garu have you enabled restricted drivers, or selected them for install from symantic?
[13:37] <IsotropicSpin> Hey: I have an AMD 64bit Dual Core running heron.  I can't play Mp4 and .swf (ie Youtube) hasn't got full functionality. Yes I have GNome codecs installed according to applications manager
[13:37] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: actually i m not getting that option
[13:38] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: it's in there somewhere, but I dunno where offhand.
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, do you have the non-free flash plugins
[13:38] <chronographer> isotropic: have you got medibuntu repository enabled?
[13:38] <roocraig> my update manager goes dark-any help?
[13:38] <chronographer> do a google search for medibuntu and add it
[13:38] <garu> moDumassest I've selected and downloaded them from the restricted drivers manager.and it says that its in use.
[13:38] <IsotropicSpin> arvind_khadri: i have the adobe flash plugins on in firefox
[13:38] <N1NCHN41L5> use ubuntu-restricted-extras gives u all plugins needed
[13:38] <amerio> roocraig its normal , that means its loading , just give it a lil time
[13:38] <scuderia> after a while of waiting it says  "failed to extract"  (in the terminal it outputs "extracting '/tmp/tmpGtUEXs/hardy.tar.gz'") any idea?
[13:39] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio:  Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) is mine
[13:39] <IsotropicSpin> chronographer: i don't know, how would i check that?
[13:39]  * intrinsyx wonders how much bandwidth us.archive.ubuntu.org has chewed through in the last 48 hours....
[13:39] <amerio> Net_Demon same here
[13:39] <emorris> roocraig: mine did that, but I had to kill it and restart it
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, which file formats cant you play
[13:39] <v0lksman> roocraig:  it's likely cause the mirrors are all busy....did you try finding a different mirror?
[13:39] <roocraig> my screensaver preferences won't load-any help for that issue too?
[13:39] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: wow, alot of problems with Atheros
[13:39] <chronographer> its not added as deafult, you need to add it as a repository, google search 'medibuntu hardy'
[13:39] <moDumassest> garu have you gone to system>administration>appearance and selected anything other than "none"
[13:39] <N1NCHN41L5> anyone know how to DUAL BOOT MULTILE LINUX operating systems - without the grub screwing up???
[13:39] <amerio> Net_Demon at least I made a step forward , now wireless enabled with ndiswrapper but cannot detect my network
[13:39] <intrinsyx> Hardy switched over to ath5k from madwifi.
[13:40] <moDumassest> arghh, its sounds like im listening to scratched cds
[13:40] <intrinsyx> ath5k does not support all the devices madwifi did.
[13:40] <chronographer> I am able to play mp3's and I didn't install anything fancy, apart from amybe mpd
[13:40] <garu> moDumassest but when I enable it,it asks to restart the system, and then it wont give me a desktop.after the loading screen.
[13:40] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: yeah, last i heard ndiswrapper would work
[13:40] <chronographer> *maybe
[13:40] <ToM-X> Atheros is a complete fail for me -_- I hate using Ndiswrapper, doesn't work after reboot.
[13:40] <NeT_DeMoN> but i dont know how to use it :P
[13:40] <roocraig> how do I find a different mirror with update manager?
[13:41] <moDumassest> garu, ok that blows,
[13:41] <intrinsyx> ToM-X: there's a madwifi howto for hardy on the forums.
[13:41] <amerio> Net_Demon yeah its working but cannot detect any network grrrrr
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, which files??
[13:41] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: wow
[13:41] <amerio> ToM-X it doesnt work because its not loaded into modprobe
[13:41] <garu> moDumassest that's weirdest thing. because I got the effects enabled, and they are working, but very slowly!
[13:41] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: how do you use ndiswrapper?
[13:41] <roocraig> Can someone help me with screensaver preferences issue please?
[13:41] <N1NCHN41L5> ?
[13:41] <v0lksman> roocraig:  launch synaptic first...go to settings...then repositories....then use the drop down to "Download From"....hit "Other" and ask it to select the best mirror....
[13:41] <IsotropicSpin> arvind_khadri: so far i know Mp4 and SWF
[13:42] <lesjohn> my installer crashed during the setting up packages part with "about 2 minutes" left.  it hung while starting bluetooth. i did a force restart.  is there anything for me to do except a clean install?
[13:42] <emorris> roocraig: system>admin>software sources>download from>choose server
[13:42] <moDumassest> garu nvidia or ati?
[13:42] <ToM-X> Cheers instrinsyx:   amerio: It works, every other reboot you could say, very unreliable.
[13:42] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: i downloaded it but i dont know how to install it :S
[13:42] <amerio> Net_Demon hold on i'll get u the guide i followed
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> how do i make text bigger in chat so i can read it easier
[13:42] <intrinsyx> Latest Xorg is a PITA with monitor resolutions -- it will disable valid modes that used to work. Check your xorg.conf
[13:42] <v0lksman> roocraig:  then hit reload and close Synaptic...then run update manager again
[13:42] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: ok, thanks
[13:42] <scuderia> to update to 8.04 shall i download the alternative cd right?