[21:55] <robclark> hmm, apparently ubuntu-tv doesn't block the screensaver
[21:56] <davilla> hey robclark :)
[21:57] <robclark> hey davilla
[21:57] <robclark> fwiw, ubuntu tv runs on arm ;-)   https://github.com/robclark/qtmobility-1.1.0
[21:58] <davilla> nice
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> robclark; and that is a problem?
[22:01] <robclark> nope :-)
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> About the screensaver I mean
[22:01] <robclark> (well, screensaver part is if it comes on half way thru movie)
[22:01] <davilla> was about to say :)
[22:01] <robclark> totem does something to supress screensaver while playing, fwiw
[22:02] <robclark> not sure exactly how, but ubuntu-tv really should do the same
[22:02] <rsalveti> yup, mplayer also supports blocking screensaver
[22:05] <davilla> as does xbmc :)
[22:06] <robclark> I guess a lot of people find screensavers kicking in mid-movie as a bit annoying ;-)
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> That's true, so only suppress it during video playback?
[22:08] <robclark> I think so.. well, I guess in TV form factor you probably don't want screensaver on by default anyways, but definitely surpress it during video playback
[22:10] <rsalveti> at least with wdtv the screensaver is enabled by default when not playing any media
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> wdtv?
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> And screensaver on by default isn't a bad idea
[22:11] <rsalveti> media center
[22:12] <rsalveti> from Western Digital
[22:13] <MrChrisDruif> Ah...kay


[08:31] <filiplt> Hello! Is it possible to move juju 'units' deployed in LXD containers between machines?
[08:32] <filiplt> i mean move containers
[08:36] <sparkiegeek> well if your units are stateless, it's better to just "juju add-unit --to lxd:<TARGET_MACHINE> <MY_APP>" and "juju destroy-unit <OLD_UNIT>"
[08:46] <filiplt> Thank you, sparkiegeek. That was solution i thought of
[15:04] <Budgie^Smore> o/ juju world
[15:05] <Zic> hi here
[15:05] <rick_h> party
[15:06] <Zic> just for info, for one of my 1.5.3 CDK cluster upgrading to 1.6.1, I had a strange issue with kube-dns claiming that its pod cannot mount his volume (kube-dns has a volume??): http://paste.ubuntu.com/24407777/
[15:06] <Zic> don't know if it's normal
[15:43] <Zic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24408100/
[15:43] <Zic> kubernetes-dashboard is also unavailable
[15:44] <Zic> (it's a test cluster, no urgence but just to let you know if somebody of the CDK team already saw that kind of problem before submitting a bug)
[15:52] <Zic> hmm, seems it's the return of https://github.com/juju-solutions/bundle-canonical-kubernetes/issues/238
[17:19] <cory_fu> Does anyone know how to change the default bootstrap config options for juju?  I managed to get enable-os-update turned off by default and it's preventing me from bootstrapping without manual intervention
[17:22] <sparkiegeek> cory_fu: perhaps you set it using "juju model-defaults" ?
[17:23] <cory_fu> sparkiegeek: That helps for creating new units inside models, but it requires a controller to already be bootstrapped.  I'm trying to influence the default config of the controller during bootstrap.
[17:24] <cory_fu> sparkiegeek: I can do it per-bootstrap with `juju bootstrap --config enable-os-update=true` but I'm trying to figure out how I ended up with it defaulting to false
[17:24] <cory_fu> Oh, wait
[17:25] <cory_fu> Of course.  I created an alias that's sending those options.
[17:25] <cory_fu> >_<
[17:25] <sparkiegeek> haha
[18:19] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: wtg ;)
[20:59] <firl> mbruzek you around?
[20:59] <mbruzek> Sure
[21:00] <firl> I am looking at doing an install of 1.6.1 k8s
[21:00] <firl> ontop of openstack, didn’t know the best way you would recommend it. just use the conjure? https://jujucharms.com/canonical-kubernetes/
[21:02] <mbruzek> You only need conjure-up if you want to deploy to LXD. Otherwise just make sure Juju can talk to your OpenStack and you should be good with "juju deploy canonical-kubenernetes".
[21:02] <firl> juju 2.0?
[21:02] <mbruzek> conjure-up just calls Juju for you. Yep 2.x
[21:02] <firl> and does it “just work” with ingress and openstack?
[21:05] <mbruzek> Networking is complicated. If you are able to reach your OpenStack VMs without Kubernetes then you should be fine. In my test cases the VMs did not have ingress access.
[21:07] <firl> so will I be able to reach my services some how though?
[21:07] <lazyPower> firl: so, the way it works is your workers deploy ingress controllers on port 80/443 respectively
[21:07] <firl> yes,
[21:08] <firl> like juju doesn’t block the ports to prevent me from putting up a ha_proxy for example I mean
[21:08] <lazyPower> firl: so long as you have a route to those vm's and you can reach port 80/443, the rest will be handled by the ingress objects you declare with your applications.
[21:08] <firl> ok, I just remember juju not exposing those ports
[21:08] <lazyPower> firl: correct, you can expose/unexpose the workers respectively, but yeah.
[21:08] <firl> so only port 80/443 support right now?
[21:08] <lazyPower> firl: what you'll find thats slightly mroe complicated is if you want to use the nodeport networking model
[21:09] <lazyPower> right, you'll wind up needing to do a juju run --application kubernetes-worker "open-port 6000" for example
[21:09] <lazyPower> thats the only caveat, is you have to manually expose those ports
[21:09] <firl> gotcha
[21:09] <firl> that’s perfectly acceptable, I just remember the first time I tried 8 months ago I couldn’t get that going
[21:09] <firl> is the  `juju run --application kubernetes-worker "open-port 6000”` documented anywhere?
[21:09]  * lazyPower checks the readme
[21:10] <lazyPower> i'm not positive we documented that
[21:10] <lazyPower> yeah, undocumented behavior at the moment firl, but i'll file a bug and get that added for the next release
[21:10] <firl> sweet
[21:11] <firl> I will go through and see what I can do, I think I have to adjust my environment to accept juju 2.0 first
[21:11] <firl> I will report back here if you guys want on how it went
[21:12] <lazyPower> sounds good firl, make sure you ping me :)
[21:12] <firl> sweet, thanks again as always
[21:12] <lazyPower> I monitor #juju but less actively than prior
[21:12] <lazyPower> s/prior/previously/
[21:13] <firl> gotcha
[21:13] <firl> I can imagine, looks like you guys have been busy with juju as a service too
[21:13] <firl> Is the hope to get it integrated with the kubernetes deployments there to kind of make it an easier deployment then the current azure one?
[21:14] <lazyPower> firl: i'm not sure i understand the question?
[21:15] <firl> https://jujucharms.com/jaas
[21:15] <firl> for example the default kubernetes in azure doesn’t allow for scaling post install or attaching to a scaling group etc
[21:16] <lazyPower> Juju deployed kubernetes certainly supports both of those cases (however instead of scaling groups, we use an autoscaler or manual scaling)
[21:17] <lazyPower> firl: one such autoscaler exists by a community submission. SimonKLB wrote the elastisys autoscaler charm so you get all the autoscaling goodies it brings with it.
[21:17] <firl> I will have to check that out. It’s nice to see you guys progressing towards that
[22:14] <firl> anyone know where the config data for juju2 is stored locally?
[22:15] <blahdeblah> firl: .local/share/juju
[22:15] <firl> ty
[22:23] <firl> anyone know of a juju 2.0 environment generator for openstack I am having issues specifying the network id


[19:28] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: are you sure that you did not make the install OVER the old one and replace all that you had?
[19:28] <helpmehelpme> tylertwo *
[19:28] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Can you pastebin the output of lsblk?
[19:28] <helpmehelpme> knowing my inferior self, I probably did that.
[19:29] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: if you did that then you will of course need to get your files from a backup
[19:29] <Tex_Nick> compdoc : http://www.imagebam.com/image/c08942281052076
[19:30] <compdoc> Tex_Nick, smart records everything that happens to the drive, including all the bad things. If you have seen problems reading or writing to the drive, then it has been recorded in SMART.
[19:30] <vimpulse> helpmehelpme:  if the data is gone, there may be ways to recover some or all of it.  But, unfortunately, they may be expensive and/or time-consuming.
[19:30] <compdoc> Tex_Nick, it is completely safe, and also a very good idea to know how to read smart. And it is worth it to install smartctl.
[19:30] <helpmehelpme> time is not problem.
[19:30] <compdoc> Tex_Nick, it shows in your pic that the drive has bad sectors
[19:30] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: STOP using the system IMMEDIATELY - the longer you use it the less data will potentially be recoverable - assuming you have no backup
[19:31] <kieppie1> howdy
[19:31] <kieppie1> my new laptop is missing the context menu key
[19:31] <eer> I am using lang=en.us-utf8 but my keyboard is Logitech with a Swiss German layout.
[19:31] <kieppie1> I believe the keycode for the key should be 117
[19:31] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Can you pastebin the output of lsblk? > this should make it clear if you've overwritten your Ubuntu filesystem.
[19:31] <pallav> hi there...does anyone know if it is normal to have a box with a red cross inside displaying in ubuntu 13.04 at the top right hand corner next to the clock?
[19:31] <compdoc> every time that number increases, it means the drive had a problem, and it has 'reallocated' the sector
[19:31] <kieppie1> how can I execute a keycode event, so that I can remap it to a different key?
[19:31] <compdoc> so it looks ok now
[19:32] <delinquentme> https://gist.github.com/delinquentme/6940680
[19:32] <helpmehelpme> tylertwo, i've no idea what that means. not a power user, nor am I ubuntu-smart lol.
[19:32] <compdoc> the drive needs to be retired
[19:32] <delinquentme> so which rvm still fails here  ... I think the paths are correct
[19:32] <daninoz_> hi guys. I installed lamp-server with php5-gd but it was php 5.5. How can I downgrade to php 5.4?
[19:32] <kieppie1> ?keybode
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> pallav what does is say when you mouse over it?
[19:32] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: if you are going to do even that lsblk and pastebin - do it from a live cd/usb - DO NOT USE the system
[19:32] <kieppie1> !keycode
[19:32] <kieppie1> ?keycode
[19:32] <helpmehelpme> i've got lubuntu on a usb.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> daninoz_  any reason you want a lower version? maybe there's a different solution for what you want
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> pallav: if it's what i think it is then that only means the system was unable to check the repo for updates
[19:33] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Open a terminal, type "lsblk".
[19:33] <phy1729> How often do the IPs for us.archive.ubuntu.com security.ubuntu.com extras.ubuntu.com  change?
[19:33] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: boot of that usb stick and look around that way - that way if you have overwritten the old file system there is some chance of recovery
[19:33] <pallav> hitsuji it doesn't say anything but it is the button that can be used to view about this computer and system settings etc.
[19:33] <dragonfly> pallav: can you post a screenshot of the "box with a red x"
[19:33] <daninoz_> MonkeyDust: The production server I'm working is on php 5.4. I want to have the same version on my local server.
[19:34] <pallav> do you know how to fix that hitsujitmo
[19:34] <helpmehelpme> typed in 'lsblk'
[19:34] <AllanD> phy1729: I have never noticed them change - have you?
[19:34] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, copy the output and paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <helpmehelpme> output .-. ?
[19:34] <helpmehelpme> not great with the terminology either, guys.
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> pallav can you screenshot it?
[19:34] <helpmehelpme> you're dealing with a moron.
[19:35] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, type lsblk then press enter
[19:35] <Tex_Nick> compdoc : thanks for the input there ... i will monitor SMART from time to time ... was really wanting to find location of bad sectors ... create 2 or more partitions, excluding bad sectors ?
[19:35] <helpmehelpme> pressed enter.
[19:35] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, there should be writing on the terminal that comes below it - that's the output
[19:35] <AllanD> helpmehelpme: are you running from that stick or ignoring my advice and running from the new install - if the latter you are probably reducing your chances of recover and increasing the cosyt too
[19:35] <helpmehelpme> i think from the stick.
[19:35] <jhutchins> delinquentme: Did you log out an d lot back in to source .bashrc?
[19:35] <phy1729> AllanD: just asking
[19:35] <helpmehelpme> i have no idea how to do either, lol.
[19:36] <compdoc> Tex_Nick, your data is at risk if you continue. the drive is dying.
[19:36] <AllanD> phy1729: a strange question then - any reason for the question then?
[19:36] <lolu> phy1729: http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/?q=us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:36] <jhutchins> Tex_Nick: That might make sense on an old drive, but modern drives the sectors you see are virtual, modeled by the controller.  If you're actually seeing bad blocks then the drive is failing.
[19:37] <delinquentme> jhutchins, I did still non functional $which rvm
[19:37] <eer> Why is there no ~/-bash_profile in Ubuntu?
[19:37] <jhutchins> Tex_Nick: If they're increasing or you're seeing repeated entries from smart in the logs, the drive is failing NOW.
[19:37] <phy1729> AllanD: setting up a default deny iptable outbound
[19:37] <Tex_Nick> i understand ... i bought it used ... only want to use it for non-critical data storage
[19:37] <helpmehelpme> pasted to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <Ari-Yang> how to I make a specific command not log in terminal?
[19:38] <llutz> eer: there is ~/.profile, works with bash too
[19:38] <Pici> Ari-Yang: What do you mean by 'not log in the terminal'?
[19:38] <AllanD> lolu: that is a commercial/pay site - I believe that it is inappropriate to promote it here
[19:38] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, good, what's the resulting URL?
[19:38] <Ari-Yang> Pici: as in it won't log in bash_history
[19:38] <helpmehelpme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6223901/
[19:38] <jhutchins> delAre you using bash as your shell?
[19:38] <Ari-Yang> Pici: I know typing a space before a command in terminal isn't logged in bash_history, but I want to make the command not log at all so that I don't have to type a space before it all the time
[19:39] <lolu> Ari-Yang: unset HISTFILE
[19:39] <Tex_Nick> ok ... hey compdoc, vimpulse & jhutchins ... thanks for the input guys ... understand i can't cure a dying patient ;-)
[19:39] <Ari-Yang> lolu: huh?  This is #ubuntu
[19:40] <lolu> Ari-Yang: there is an env variable
[19:40] <eer> If I want to individualize the vars shown by locale per user, do I have to redifine them in .profile or elsewhere?
[19:40] <helpmehelpme> Tylertwo, what should i do from here ?
[19:40] <lolu> Ari-Yang: HISTFILE which tells which file to write history to
[19:40] <Ari-Yang> lolu: ah
[19:41] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, And I'm not 100% on whether you deleted your Ubuntu partition yet. If you open your file manager are you able to access the files you had saved on your Lubuntu partition?
[19:41] <pallav> how do i send a screenshot here?
[19:41] <Tylertwo> pallav, you can upload it on imgur.com
[19:42] <helpmehelpme> tylertwo, i believe so, yes.
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> pallav  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> pallav ... use imgur or some similar service
[19:42] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Well, it's showing 2 main partitions, and they both say "Lubuntu". Did you install Lubuntu twice?
[19:43] <kieppie1> how do I raise a keybooard event rom the CLI?
[19:43] <dragonfly> pallav: http://picpaste.com/
[19:43] <daninoz_> hi guys. I installed lamp-server with php5-gd but it was php 5.5. How can I downgrade to php 5.4?
[19:43] <helpmehelpme> maybe .-. i dont really know, lol.
[19:43] <nullkuhl> hello, is it possible to create my own custom live cd ? basically i wanna install some applications and store some default files , and i want to end up with an iso that i can burn to usb flash drives, and be used as live version of ubuntu
[19:43] <joar> the boot loading screen with the four dots is messed up for me, it shows lots of text (ply*.c debug messages) simultaneously as the dots.
[19:44] <joar> nullkuhl: what are you going to use it for?
[19:44] <nullkuhl> joar: its for a class, where students will be given the flash disks to use some simulator, however i will build it for them
[19:44] <lolu> daninoz_: what version of ubuntu
[19:44] <starhunter> can anybody get me through this "skype unable to detect video device" problem.
[19:45] <Svetlana> kieppie1, http://www.semicomplete.com/projects/xdotool/xdotool.xhtml#keyboard_commands
[19:45] <jhutchins> !live
[19:45] <daninoz_> lolu: 13.10
[19:45] <eer> Anybody knows?
[19:45] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Heh, in the future you may want to keep a log or something of major computer ventures you undertake, such as installing an OS.
[19:45] <kieppie1> Svetlana: thanks
[19:45] <joar> nullkuhl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[19:46] <jhutchins> thanks joar.
[19:46] <lolu> daninoz_: php 5.4 is no in the ubuntu repos. You can use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-oldstable
[19:46] <helpmehelpme> what should i do now ?
[19:46] <nullkuhl> joar: yeah read that, but i was trying to create the live cd from an already existing installation
[19:46] <lolu> daninoz_: i have no idea how well its maintained though
[19:46] <helpmehelpme> move on with my life and start a new, or try to get the past back?
[19:46] <joar> jhutchins: you wouldn't happen to know the issue of my garbled plymouth run?
[19:47] <nullkuhl> joar: "You might also want to create a LiveCD from an existing installation; in this case, Remastersys is for you." .. unfortunately remastersys seems to be halted
[19:47] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, in your file manager under "Places" do you see something along the lines of "367 Gb Filesystem" and "97Gb Filesystem"?
[19:47] <helpmehelpme> 103 gb and 394 gb
[19:48] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Check both of those and see if you can find your movies/music/whatever that you wanted.
[19:48] <joar> nullkuhl: I see, that's what I can find for now, is it an option to do it the way described in the article?
[19:48] <joar> do you have any time constraints?
[19:48] <nullkuhl> joar: kinda yeah, i was hoping for a more on the fly thing.
[19:49] <kieppie1> Svetlana: ACE! `xdotool key Menu`
[19:49] <joar> nullkuhl: I see, it would be nice if it was just magic, but it seems you have to do some work.
[19:49] <nullkuhl> joar: if i have a live cd on a flash usb already, is there a way to make an iso image of that flash usb including the boot loader , mbr if any and so on ?
[19:49] <joar> in my opinion: you would get a cleaner install if you make it from scratch.
[19:50] <helpmehelpme> i couldn't find anything. i checked under media .-.
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, Why?
[19:50] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: ?
[19:50] <kaddi> i have a samsung netbook, there was this uefi bug that bricked some machines, is there a way to check if i'm affected or not?
[19:51] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, How did you locate them in the past, when you watched the movies and whatnot?
[19:51] <joar> I had plymouth:debug in my boot command, that was the issue.
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, It is a copy of the iso why not download it again.
[19:51] <helpmehelpme> they were all in a file. 'moviessss'
[19:51] <Svetlana> kieppie1, :)
[19:51] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Where was that file located?
[19:51] <helpmehelpme> but since nothing on this is like ubuntu 12.04 , i'm clueless.
[19:51] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: because the flash usb will be modified , more apps installed , own files included etc..
[19:51] <helpmehelpme> desktop
[19:52] <snickerdoodles> Who has managed to make air play video stream from ubuntu to an apple tv?
[19:52] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: there was thise tool that makes the live cd when written on the flash drive to have read/write access, so that it doesnt reset if machine is restarted.
[19:52] <kieppie1> Svetlana: I'm trying to map it to a custom keyboard shortcut, but fails to activate......
[19:52] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, Ok, under both those drives check /home/<user>/Desktop
[19:52] <joar> nullkuhl: I can't help you much more, my recommendation is to follow the article I linked. I can't bear to suffer from any constraints placed on you at the moment.
[19:52] <nullkuhl> joar: thanks :)
[19:53] <joar> nullkuhl: good luck :)
[19:53] <helpmehelpme> tylertwo, i love you.
[19:53] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, find em?
[19:53] <helpmehelpme> insinuating i've found them
[19:53] <helpmehelpme> lol
[19:53] <Tylertwo> nice!
[19:54] <helpmehelpme> thank youuuuuu
[19:54] <root____> wrong
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, that is the wrong way to make a custom iso in general there used to be a app remasterd to make custom setup for install, you can make a custom cd.
[19:54] <helpmehelpme> many thanks from the bottom of my non religious heart <3
[19:54] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, yw!
[19:54] <helpmehelpme> i wish you the best of days, my friend.
[19:54] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: yeah its halted now :(
[19:54] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, cheers
[19:54] <pallav> http://www.picpaste.com/red_cross-dSQHhNbG.png
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, there are other ways there is a wiki.
[19:55] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: i just want a fast way to prepare bootable ubuntu flash disks with custom software and files installed
[19:55] <c0re15> use something like yumi
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> pallav ok, don't recognise that symbol ...
[19:56] <pallav> errr :(
[19:56] <hitsujiTMO> could be just the system can't find the image file that's supposed to be there
[19:56] <kieppie1> Svetlana: any ideas on disabling caps lock (action, not key event) - I'd like to remap that without init UPPERCASING
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> try changing the theme
[19:57] <olabaz> hey guys I'm having trouble with Ubuntu
[19:57] <pallav> ok
[19:57] <ABX5B> Which one?
[19:57] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: yes but it seems like a lot of work, also i dont see a way where i can install custom software (not from ubuntu's repos) and have it on the live cd
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | olabaz
[19:57] <olabaz> I installed it fine but then I upgraded an nvidia driver and I think that's causing my ubuntu to not boot up
[19:58] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: ill try to find a working copy of remastersys
[19:58] <jayesh> test
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, Hehe, yes it does and thats what you will have to do.
[19:58] <olabaz> installed 12.04 LTS
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> I would like to fly, but the work is a bit to hard.
[19:59] <olabaz> so I just booted using the live CD and was wondering how I can undo the install of that driver or if I need to reinstall?
[19:59] <pallav> hitsujiTMO
[19:59] <pallav> that worked thanks
[20:00] <pallav> changing the theme fixed it
[20:00] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: joar: this seems to do it  http://system-imaging.blogspot.ca/p/blog-page.html
[20:00] <lolu> olabaz: at the point when boot stops, can you do a ctl+alt+f1
[20:00] <ABX5B> Can't launch without startx?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> olabaz, That driver, what are you talking about look at the bots message on details.
[20:00] <lolu> olabaz: that must get you to a terminal. You can purge the driver from there and install the correct one
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> nullkuhl, nothing but it does not work there.
[20:01] <olabaz> lolu: ok all that comes up is a _ and I spammed all the keys and nothing happened
[20:01] <olabaz> lolu: I will try the ctrl alt f1 though
[20:01] <nullkuhl> wilee-nilee: ?
[20:02] <olabaz> brb gonna go try
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> glad it worked pallav
[20:05] <ABX5B> Does anybody ever used VT-x to emulate x64 CPU for guest OS?
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> ABX5B what exactly is your question?
[20:06] <codekK> Hi all i have problem when i suspend my laptop with Ubuntu 13.04. After suspend it and get it working again the system get freeze and only can move Mouse.  I can swap into other TTY then i think is cause of gnome3. Anyone know how solve it?
[20:07] <ABX5B> Have anybody some experience with VT-x emulation?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> codekK  maybe you need more swap space
[20:07] <bekks> ABX5B: Why?
[20:07] <codekK> and i can increment it without reinstall?
[20:07] <ABX5B> Need to emulate Ubuntu x64 on Oracle Virtualbox - fails over and over
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> ABX5B yes, but what exactly do you want to know about it
[20:07] <manornk_> Hi, on ubuntu-touch i get no answer, I want to install Ubuntu on my 1.2 dual core 512 mb RAM phone, what is the easiest way?
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> is it booting at all ABX5B ?
[20:08] <ABX5B> nop
[20:08] <rostov> oh hai. what is the newest version of ubuntu that will fit on a CD?
[20:08] <Tylertwo> codekK, How much swap do you have now? And how much RAM?
[20:08] <ABX5B> if u mean Ubuntu 13
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> i mean grub
[20:09] <codekK> Tylertwo: i have 4gb ram and same in swap
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> or anything
[20:09] <olabaz> lolu: hey I just tried the key combination and it does not do anything
[20:09] <Tylertwo> codekK, That's gotta be enough
[20:09] <olabaz> lolu: this is the screen i am currently on: http://i.imgur.com/Q1ivpKj.jpg
[20:09] <codekK> i think the same
[20:10] <OerHeks> rostov, mini iso 13.04 or the 12.04 lts
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> ABX5B is the interface giving you any specific error messages
[20:10] <hitsujiTMO> ?
[20:10] <eer> Why are Linux programs written in C and not in C++ which is more advanced?
[20:10] <bekks> ABX5B: "fails over and over" - what is the exact error message?
[20:10] <helpmehelpme> what should i do about clearing storage space so i can transfer all +13,000 songs over to lubuntu ?
[20:10] <bekks> eer: Because the applications in c++ do work fine.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> rostov, Use the mini install and any version will fit.
[20:11] <OerHeks> eer ask the developer of each program.
[20:11] <rostov> OerHeks: Thanks for info. However I forgot to mention it needs to the full distro not the alternate installer. It's for a friend who is new to Ubuntu so needs the regular desktop etc.
[20:11] <BluesKaj_> eer , go ask in #linux
[20:11] <bekks> eer: s/c++/c/
[20:12] <c0re15> somebody telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[20:12] <rostov> he's not going ot be happy with the command line
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> rostov, the mini is a net install, it has more options, however not a beginners method in general.
[20:12] <ABX5B> There were a lot, haven't write they down, maybe, I will raise the issue, when I have em.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> rostov, use a usb
[20:13] <bekks> ABX5B: Without the actual error message, no one can help you.
[20:13] <ABX5B> I guess
[20:13] <rostov> wilee-nilee: It has t be a CD, not a DVD or USB. The laptop is old and cannot boot from USB
[20:13] <codekK> Tylertwo: know what i can do? :S
[20:14] <rostov> 12.04 will fit on a CD?
[20:14] <ABX5B> There is some other Qs regarding Continious Integration...
[20:14] <Tylertwo> codekK, Is this a recent problem? Ie did it work in the past?
[20:14] <bekks> ABX5B: CI of what?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> rostov, I believe lubuntu will fit, maybe xubuntu, this is easily found on the web, which is where you should be looking, limiting this to a cd is a bad start to be honest for full use and understanding the OS.
[20:14] <OerHeks> rostov, the mini iso gives you a gui to install unity/gnome3 > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BnPUzUPJ6us/UeGmG2gh5sI/AAAAAAAAAwk/lJ2fDSmhxNM/s1600/Step22.png
[20:14] <codekK> idk because is first time i install ubuntu on this laptop
[20:14] <ABX5B> Software developement
[20:15] <bekks> ABX5B: be more precise please.
[20:15] <ABX5B> I am using Ubuntu as host platform for CI
[20:15] <OerHeks> rostov, taken from http://amjjawad.blogspot.nl/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html
[20:15] <bekks> ABX5B: So whats the actual ubuntu related question?
[20:15] <Tylertwo> codekK, So if you wanted to go back to Gnome3 you would have to restart the computer (or restart gnome)?
[20:15] <lolu> olabaz: i got nothing, in that case sorry
[20:15] <olabaz> ok thx anyway
[20:16] <codekK> i dont try restarting gnome just restarting computer
[20:16] <codekK> Tylertwo: i will go to try restarting gdm
[20:16] <oplex> hello, can anyone help me what to do when mp3 files are not supported by the player device (which it used to support until now) ?
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> rostov, They will probably be best with lubuntu, it does not have a the pae kernel, and is light enough maybe for a computer to old to boot a usb, maybe
[20:16] <codekK> second
[20:16] <ABX5B> ok, installed Jenkins, Ant, Java, etc.. but I need to link with SVN repository on Windows. Is it possible?
[20:16] <jetro> Hey guys noob here, I am trying to install Ubuntu, I currently have windows 7 and created a partition to install ubuntu on. Now I am asked if I want use a partition for swap space. I only have one free partition though (the one I intended to install ubuntu on). How can I reduce the size of this partition and create another partition for swap space?
[20:17] <rostov> OerHeks: Again thanks for the info. However this isn't going to work for the guy. He really needs the standard one click installer. I'm looking on the web to find the newest one that will fit on a 74 minute (the laptop cannot read 80m CD) CD
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> jetro, How many partitions are there now and are they all primaries?
[20:17] <rostov> wilee-nilee: Oh ubuntu uses a pAE kernel now?
[20:17] <bekks> ABX5B: man svn
[20:17] <ABX5B> Yea
[20:17] <ABX5B> :D
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> jetro, Also be sure that you know a unallocated space is not called a partition here.
[20:18] <ABX5B> Ubuntu is emulated alias guest OS
[20:18] <jetro> wilee-nilee I have 1 partition for windows 7, and one blank partition that I wanted to use for ubuntu
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> rostov, The main ubuntu does, I believe xubuntu and lubuntu do not
[20:18] <codekK> Tylertwo: i do restart lightdm and it dont start.. :(
[20:18] <jetro> so no way to add swap space?
[20:18] <llutz> jetro: you always can add a swapfile later
[20:18] <bekks> ABX5B: So how is the usage of svn directly related to Ubuntu?
[20:18] <olabaz> lolu: do you think I should try anything from booting into recovery?
[20:19] <ABX5B> Don't know :)
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> jetro, No boot partition for Windows, can you run sudo fdsik -l and pastebin the info.
[20:19] <Tylertwo> codekK, Before suspending the computer were many processes running? Or not much activity?
[20:19] <ABX5B> Some way I guess
[20:19] <codekK> Tylertwo: noting running
[20:19] <codekK> just gdm with default utilities from laptop
[20:19] <bekks> ABX5B: No way I know :) The usage of svn isnt related to ubuntu.
[20:19] <codekK> is a new installation of ubuntu 13.04
[20:19] <ABX5B> Still, my CI runs on it
[20:19] <ABX5B> :)
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> jetro, sorry sudo fdisk -l
[20:20] <jetro> wilee-nilee, I am in the process of installing, should I quit, run ubuntu from the cd, and run that command?
[20:20] <codekK> and i boot computer whe is up i close the screen of laptop... when i open the screen again and push some key it return to Windows in same state when i close but it get freeze
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> jetro, This a wubi install?
[20:20] <codekK> only can move mouse and swap with other tty (alt+ctrl+fx)
[20:21] <bekks> ABX5B: Still, using svn is not related to ubuntu.
[20:21] <bekks> ABX5B: you may ask #svn too
[20:21] <jetro> wilee-nilee, I burned ubuntu on to a cd, and am trying to install from the cd
[20:21] <Tylertwo> codekK, you may find this interesting: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143906
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> jetro, My concern is have you maxed out the amount of partitions possible, so n o swap is possible for one.
[20:21] <ABX5B> Checking channels already... #Discovery Science should be as well
[20:22] <lolu> ABX5B: you just need the jenkins subversion plugin right?
[20:22] <ABX5B> Plugin? Nop
[20:22] <ABX5B> Make shared folder as repo
[20:22] <jetro> wilee-nilee, I think so, I just have two partitions. So I guess I should just cancel the installation, logon to my windows 7 os, and then create another partition from there?
[20:22] <ABX5B> From both OS - Ubuntu and Win
[20:22] <bekks> ABX5B: You want to check out a repo, not making a shared folder.
[20:23] <ABX5B> I don't know really
[20:23] <bekks> ABX5B: I do :)
[20:23] <ABX5B> Shared is shared, security concerns..
[20:23] <bekks> checkout the repo.
[20:23] <bekks> No need to use shared folders at all.
[20:23] <codekK> Tylertwo: i saw it but isnt the same problem he get freeze 50% and get freeze all (mouse include). I get 100% of times freeze and can reboot computer from other tty no needed hard reset
[20:24] <ABX5B> Right :)
[20:24] <lolu> ABX5B: let the repo be on guest machine, then set up port forwarding from vbox
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> jetro, You can't create a partition for ubuntu from windows, making a unallocated is not making a partition. You can do all of this from ubuntu, we just need to see what is there now with a screenshot of the gparted partitioner on the live cd or the fdisk command.
[20:24] <bekks> lolu: Why not just checking out the repo?
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> jetro are you sure you just have 2 partitions ... windows uses at least 2
[20:24] <bekks> lolu: Thats what it is for,
[20:25] <codekK> Tylertwo: and i dont have password on my ubutun then i can wait some mins before enter the password
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> jetro, If you want definitive answers we have to know what is there now.
[20:25] <lolu> lolu: oh, you need the same checkout available between guest and host?
[20:26] <lolu> ABX5B: oh, you need the same checkout available between guest and host?
[20:27] <Tylertwo> codekK, after the error occurs you could go to tty1 and enter "top" to see if some applications are using a lot of CPU.
[20:27] <jetro> wilee-nilee, I used EaseUS partition master to create a partition
[20:27] <ABX5B> That would be weird.. I am programming on both OS, but I need to link or make a single repo to use from both sides
[20:27] <bekks> ABX5B: Why not using svn?
[20:27] <bekks> ABX5B: One repo, two clients, checkin, checkout, commit, update...
[20:28] <lolu> ABX5B: mount as network volume
[20:28] <codekK> Tylertwo: only init and top is using cpu (0,3%)
[20:28] <rostov> wilee-nilee: OerHeks thank you both
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> jetro, delete that partition and leave it as free space, leave the ubuntu installer make the partitions for you
[20:28] <helpmehelpme> what should i do about clearing storage space so i can transfer all +13,000 songs over to lubuntu ?
[20:28] <codekK> Tylertwo: and sometimes kworker
[20:28] <OerHeks> rostov, have fun
[20:28] <jetro> hitsujiTMO, I have two partitions for windows it seems, 1 that is very small (104 mb), and one that 200GB. Then I have the partition I created recently (20GB) for ubuntu
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> jetro, you don't need to and should not, use the ubuntu tools for linux. This can be taken care of easily from the ubuntu live cd if you just follow the help.
[20:29] <ABX5B> Network volume sounds intriguing
[20:29] <lolu> ABX5B: sshfs
[20:29] <ABX5B> Gotta try
[20:29] <ABX5B> Thnx
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> jetro, delete that 20gb one, and run the ubuntu installer again, just tell it to leave windows alone and it will create a root partion and swap partition for you
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> jetro, It may be if you have actually hit the install button that you are okay, however if we do not get a clear description of where you are at and what is there this is a waste of time.
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> you'll end up then with 4 primary partitions
[20:31] <Tylertwo> codekK, Have you looked into syslog to see if it recorded any errors?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, Not waiting for actual proof of what is on that HD is a foolish help.
[20:31] <jetro> wilee-nilee, there were three options: Install ubuntu inside windows 7, replace windows 7 with ubuntu, and "something else" (you can create or resize partitions yourself, or choose multiple partitions for ubuntu)
[20:31] <jetro> I chose "something else"
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee you're right
[20:32] <helpmehelpme> tylertwo: could you assist me once more?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> jetro, I give up, you do not seem to understand that actually seeing what is there is important, best of luck.
[20:33] <codekK> Tylertwo: nah, at syslog i dont see error :(
[20:33] <codekK> maybe the better way is trying with 12.04... what u think?
[20:33] <jetro> wilee-nilee, sorry, I am on the computer that I am trying to install ubuntu on (on the windows partition), so I would have to shutdown the computer and then take screenshots and come back
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> jetro, are you installing from windows?
[20:34] <Tylertwo> codekK, I mean, I like 12.04 a lot.. Why did you decide to get 13.04? Switching versions is kinda a lot of effort to solve a issue like this..
[20:35] <Tylertwo> helpmehelpme, not now
[20:35] <qazwert> http://pastebin.com/ZhACJ2uY can someone tell me whats wrong with this code, gives error: field ‘k’ has incomplete type
[20:35] <jetro> wilee-nilee, no, I burned ubuntu ISO onto a cd, and to install I shutdown my computer and boot from the CD
[20:35] <codekK> Tylertwo: I chose 13.04 just because is newest... no other reason
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> jetro, You can come to #ubuntu from the live cd.
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> qazwert  sure you're in the right channel?
[20:36] <Tylertwo> codekK, You mentioned Gnome3 DE. Did you download that? I thought the default is Unity.
[20:36] <jetro> wilee-nilee, ok, I will try that now
[20:37] <lolu> qazwert: in line 9 when you wrote b k, the class b was not defined. Hence the error
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> jetro, Cool, it will be easiest to help you from there.
[20:38] <codekK> Tylertwo: no sry when i said gnome3 i refer to unity. I have unity installed ofc sry
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> codekK, Unity actually is a plugin in compiz running on gnome 3 to just be clear, the gnome-shell is the gnome 3 desktop.
[20:40] <Guest80457> dam wrong channel :/
[20:40] <codekK> Ok but i have unity
[20:40] <pc-world> I want to get the 13.04 source of Unity using bzr. However "bzr branch lp:ubuntu/raring/unity" leads to the following error message: http://pastebin.com/jABj0wj3 – What's up there?
[20:42] <codekK> Tylertwo: i will try install 12.04 and see if the problem  disappear. Thank you a lot for all help u let me :)
[20:42] <Ari-Yang> codekK: what problem?
[20:43] <codekK> Ari-Yang: After suspend laptop with 13.04 i get freeze the DE only can move mouse and swap with tty's
[20:43] <Ari-Yang> codekK: oh.... what DE are you using?
[20:44] <codekK> unity
[20:44] <codekK> or gnome3 + compiz + unity
[20:44] <codekK> just is a new installation from official img from ubuntu
[20:45] <Tylertwo> codekK, Ok. Your problem is probably solveable but I'm not sure how. 12.04 should be a bit more stable in general though.
[20:45] <Ari-Yang> codekK: what's the specs of your computer?
[20:45] <codekK> i5, 4gb ram, hd 640gb
[20:45] <codekK> laptop toshiba l750
[20:45] <Ari-Yang> codekK: j/w and it could be a gnome3 or unity bug....
[20:46] <Ari-Yang> codekK: tbh I'd try re-installing unity if I can before installing a whole new ubuntu version
[20:46] <Ari-Yang> but that's me
[20:46] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[20:47] <codekK> Ari-Yang: ok i will try reinstallinmg unity
[20:47] <lolu> codeKK do you have an nvidia card with optimus chipset
[20:47] <codekK> just apt-get install  --reinstall unity, no?
[20:48] <codekK> lolu: dont know isa GeForce GT 520M cuda
[20:49] <lolu> codekK: pretty sure its an nvidia issue, have come across this earlier
[20:49] <codekK> lolu: yes i see on nvidia webpage and its a optimus chipset
[20:49] <thnee> I have a poiting device with special Copy and Paste buttons. Somehow they are mapped correctly automatically, but when I run xinput test it doesnt pick up any button code. Where might this be configured?
[20:50] <codekK> lolu: cant solve it? if i install 12.04 continue the issue?
[20:50] <Ari-Yang> codekK: you checked logs right?
[20:50] <codekK> Ari-Yang: syslog
[20:50] <codekK> yes
[20:50] <lolu> codekK: browse a little on askubuntu, its a known issue
[20:50] <Ari-Yang> to see if the error has been logged...
[20:50] <codekK> and in syslog i dont see nothing about errors
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> pc-world: bzr branch lp:unity trunk
[20:51] <pc-world> hitsujiTMO: is trunk the 13.04 source?
[20:51] <lolu> codekK: checkout Xorg.0.log also
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> pc-world https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/
[20:52] <raevol> hi all, i just do-release-upgrade 'ed one of my server VMs from 12.04 to 12.10 and now it won't boot- gets past the VM bios and then just shuts down. can anyone help me fix it?
[20:53] <pc-world> hitsujiTMO: that sounds like the development version of the source, however I'd like to get the 13.04 branch/tag (not familiar with bzr, only with git)
[20:53] <daftykins> raevol: restore your backup? :)
[20:53] <Ari-Yang> codekK: pastebin the logs as well..
[20:53] <Ari-Yang> codekK: use this http://paste.opensuse.org/
[20:53] <raevol> daftykins: i can, but is there any known issues with do-release-upgrade? is there just a grub setting i need to fix or something?
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> raevol, YOU save the original image of 12.04?
[20:54] <codekK> Ari-Yang: syslog and Xorg.0.log ?
[20:54] <daftykins> raevol: well, i'd be more concerned with you upgrading away from an LTS release. why do you want to do that?
[20:54] <Ari-Yang> codekK: yes
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> pc-world i'm in the same boat tbh, bzr confuses me
[20:55] <raevol> wilee-nilee: i do have a saved image of the VM, yea, but it's from yesterday, and i'd like to recover the upgraded one if i can
[20:55] <trism> pc-world: I think you want https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/7.0
[20:55] <raevol> daftykins: i need packages that aren't available in 12.04
[20:56] <daftykins> raevol: wouldn't a clean install make more sense?
[20:56] <raevol> daftykins: for a server?
[20:56] <daftykins> yep
[20:56] <daftykins> well, a fresh VM
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> raevol, I would boot a live cd and use the bootrepair app to get a bootinfo script, we could then see what is there. The 12.04 has 5 years support 12.10 is 9 months and not long from ending I believe.
[20:57] <nishanth> i have a wireless USB adapter which is not detected on ubuntu.....could someone help me with this issue?
[20:57] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, 12.10 is supported for 18 months
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> ah still much shorter then 12.04
[20:57] <lolu> pc-world: if you just need the source you can do an apt-get source unity
[20:57] <nishanth> wilee-nilee : thanks a lot yesterday i was able to fix my grub
[20:58] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, yes, still much shorter and I'm not sure why anyone would want to put a non-LTS version on a server
[20:58] <pc-world> lolu: that's what I've been doing in the meantime
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> nishanth, cool, no problem.
[20:58] <lolu> nishanth: lsusb
[20:58] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, FWIW, I believe 13.04 is the first release that support is only 9 months
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, Heh, my thoughts exactly. ;)
[20:58] <pc-world> will probably stick with that, though wanted to try the bzr way as well. trism's way seems to work, at least it appears to be downloading something
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, Thanks I was not sure it helps to be accurate here.
[20:59] <nishanth> lolu i am now on windows if i am on my ubuntu i cannot get connected to internet
[20:59] <nishanth> lolu i did that command
[20:59] <nishanth> lolu : it showed that i have a usb adapter
[20:59] <nishanth> lolu : wireless usb adapter
[21:00] <codekK> Ari-Yang: Xorg.0.log --> http://paste.opensuse.org/99890346
[21:00] <nishanth> lolu : i think i need a way to install the driver for my adapter without having access to internet on ubunutu
[21:01] <Ari-Yang> I'm surprised 12.10 will be supported 'til April 2014
[21:01] <Ari-Yang> codekK: I g2g in a bit, link that to lolu or someone who was helping you earlier~
[21:01] <lolu> nishanth: you vendor/model
[21:02] <codekK> And syslog of last 30min http://paste.opensuse.org/39922068
[21:02] <nishanth> lolu cicsco linksys wireless-n usb adapter n300
[21:03] <nishanth> lolu model number AE1200
[21:06] <raevol> wilee-nilee: i'll try bootrepair
[21:07] <nishanth> lolu u there?
[21:07] <lolu> nishanth: not sure abt your device drivers
[21:08] <lolu> nishanth: you might have to try ndiswrapper
[21:09] <nishanth> lolu i dont have ndiswrapper could you please tell me how i can download a package and install it on ubuntu
[21:11] <lolu> nishanth: you have to install ndisgtk package
[21:12] <helpmehelpme> i need to get the newest adobe for lubuntu so i watch youtube videos. i'm not which to download though. i also need to clear space for my music. any assistance ?
[21:12] <lolu> nishanth: maybe get a wireless/ethernet for some time and get ndisgtk installed
[21:14] <linux> hi
[21:14] <linux> anyone
[21:14] <linux> know how to get rouletechat.com to work on ubuntu
[21:15] <linux> It will be great if ubuntu have on login option to choose effects ccsm like
[21:15] <linux> minimum , medium , maximum with all posibilities like fire , wather , cube ... etc that will be great in unity for new users like girl and boys
[21:16] <raevol> ok downloading the backuprepair disk is going to take forever on this office's internet... i'll just restore a backup..
[21:17] <tgm4883> raevol, out of curiosity, why did you upgrade a server to a non-lts version
[21:18] <someking> hi guys, can i set apt-get to install/update always a package from a ppa, even if it's an oldest version compared to the official repositories?
[21:18] <linux> It will be great if ubuntu have on login option to choose effects ccsm like
[21:18] <linux> minimum , medium , maximum with all posibilities like fire , wather , cube ... etc that will be great in unity for new users like girl and boys
[21:18] <tgm4883> linux, stop repeating yourself, and that isn't a question
[21:19] <lolu> someking: you can specify the exact version. apt-get install pacakge=version
[21:20] <lolu> someking: you can find out the available version using apt-cache showpkg package
[21:21] <tgm4883> someking, you probably want to set the priority of the repo higher and/or pin the package http://askubuntu.com/questions/135339/assign-highest-priority-to-my-local-repository
[21:21] <someking> lolu: but what if I want to install all the packages from a ppa and in the official repositories I have
[21:21] <seeds> hello, anyone
[21:21] <tgm4883> !ask | seeds
[21:22] <lolu> someking: that last part was not clear
[21:22] <seeds> what generates that message with login greeting? when we perform a console login the message of memory usage etc and apt package status is shown
[21:22] <tgm4883> seeds, you mean MOTD?
[21:22] <someking> lolu: but what if I want to install all the packages from a ppa and in the official repositories I have a newest version.
[21:23] <seeds> tgm not only a banner
[21:23] <seeds> it must be a script
[21:23] <tgm4883> someking, you probably want to set the priority of the repo higher and/or pin the package http://askubuntu.com/questions/135339/assign-highest-priority-to-my-local-repository
[21:23] <lolu> someking: ya so specify the older version you want to install
[21:23] <someking> lolu: I think i will try tgm4883 solution
[21:24] <tgm4883> seeds, I'm not completely sure what you are talking about
[21:24] <seeds> tgm4883 yes the motd, however it shows system load, swap/memory/disk usage, processes etc
[21:25] <lolu> someking: that i think is to resolve when two packages are available on same version. try that out any ways.
[21:26] <lnxslck> everytime i boot ubuntu tell's me there's a severe problem and if i want to report it
[21:26] <lnxslck> how can i disable this?
[21:26] <tgm4883> lnxslck, have you tried reporting it?
[21:26] <raevol> tgm4883: i need a package not available in 12.04, and it's a non-critical server
[21:26] <lolu> seeds: i think you are talking about landscape-sysinfo
[21:27] <seeds> tgm4883 ah found it by locate motd - its was specifically that, which lolu said
[21:28] <seeds> thanks to you both
[21:28] <seeds> now, only to have it deployed on my debian farm :)
[21:28] <cgtdk> Where can I find a list of APT hooks?
[21:29] <cgtdk> or dpkg
[21:29] <lnxslck> tgm4883, yes
[21:29] <lnxslck> tgm4883, it happens every time i log in
[21:31] <tgm4883> lnxslck, did you bother looking at the report and seeing what was actually failing?
[21:31] <lnxslck> tgm4883, yes
[21:32] <lnxslck> tgm4883, nothing i could fix by myself though
[21:32] <tgm4883> lnxslck, so what is actually causing it?
[21:32] <lnxslck> ubuntu system itself
[21:32] <lnxslck> let me get the error again
[21:32] <tgm4883> yea, get the error again
[21:34] <someking> can i add a specific series of a ppa using add-apt-repository?
[21:34] <bekks> someking: sure.
[21:35] <tgm4883> bekks, how, I don't see a way
[21:35] <bekks> for i in ppa1 ppa2 ppa3; do sudo add-apt-repository "${i}"; done
[21:36] <tgm4883> bekks, maybe I misread what he wanted, but how does that allow him to add say the lucid version of a PPA on his precise box?
[21:37] <bekks> tgm4883: I dont think that that would be supported, since it might entirely break his box.
[21:37] <someking> tgm4883: that's what i want. I tried "ppa:xxx/xxx raring main" but didn't work
[21:37] <tgm4883> bekks, completely true, but I'm just trying to figure out what he asked
[21:37] <tgm4883> someking, yea, that won't work
[21:38] <tgm4883> someking, you'd have to add it manually, and hope it doesn't break anything
[21:38] <bekks> someking: so what does "didnt work" mean - whats the error message? And you you realize that doing so might break your box?
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> The global menu on mysql workbench suddenly stopped working when I stretched it over two screens.  Anyone have an idea how to get it working again?
[21:39] <bekks> zerowaitstate: use "mysql" in a terminal.
[21:39] <jared_> im ?jared
[21:39] <jared_> im _jared
[21:39] <jared_> sorry
[21:40] <Guest71570> anyone here play minecraft?
[21:40] <bekks> !anyone | Guest71570
[21:40] <tgm4883> Guest71570, not exactly a support question
[21:40] <Guest71570> Sorry
[21:41] <someking> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224369/
[21:41] <Guest71570> Is there a possibility to share files with A mac from a linux computer without installing any software on the mac?
[21:41] <Guest71570> not through ssh
[21:41] <bekks> someking: Thats an error when doing what?
[21:41] <Max-Powerz> ftp
[21:42] <Guest71570> Is there a possibility to share files with A mac from a linux computer without installing any software on the mac? if so can someone teach me since im on vacation and need a file from my mac
[21:42] <wolfybox> ok how much hdd is recomende for ubuntu
[21:42] <Guest71570> 200 GB
[21:42] <someking> bekks: add-apt-repository:" ppa:xxx/xxx series main" Anyway, I'm going to stay with the up to date version.
[21:43] <Guest71570> Is there a possibility to share files with A mac from a linux computer without installing any software on the mac? if so can someone teach me since im on vacation and need a file from my mac
[21:43] <tgm4883> !patience | Guest71570
[21:43] <tgm4883> Guest71570, so what you actually meant is, is there a way to get a file from your Mac without touching the Mac, is that correct?
[21:44] <Guest71570> yes
[21:44] <Guest71570> the mac is on though
[21:44] <tgm4883> wolfybox, it depends on what you want to do. For my base system, I have about 20GB.
[21:44] <ggherdov> hello. How do I list all package I have installed that contains the string "foo" in their name?
[21:44] <tgm4883> Guest71570, that sounds like a Mac question, not a Ubuntu one
[21:44] <Guest71570> but im doing it from a mac
[21:44] <tgm4883> ggherdov, 'dpkg -l | grep foo'
[21:44] <Guest71570> *Ubuntu
[21:44] <Guest71570> sorry
[21:45] <bekks> ggherdov: dpkg -l | grep -i "^ii" | grep foo
[21:45] <ggherdov> tgm4883: thanks
[21:45] <tgm4883> ggherdov, actually, what bekks said
[21:45] <tgm4883> I forgot that would show you uninstalled packages too
[21:46] <Guest71570> tgm4883 any suggestions
[21:46] <tgm4883> Guest71570, so? You need to gain access to a Mac.  All it does is echo "hihihi" - and when i disconnect and reconnect that's not showing in the MOTD, any idea what i've done wrong? It's 755, root:root and emits a new line at beginning and end
[21:54] <jrib> ph8: does it have a shebang line?
[21:54] <ph8> yep
[21:54] <ph8> #!/bin/sh
[21:54] <ph8> looks ok when i run it as well with just ./51-ph8
[21:54] <ph8> i've tried a reboot as well 'just in case'
[21:54] <jrib> ph8: are you getting a motd displayed at all?
[21:55] <ph8> yes i'm getting the landscape one
[21:55] <ph8> cpu etc
[21:55] <ph8> it's just like it hasn't updated now i've added 51
[21:56] <joelmo> there is a ubuntu share at my school i can access via ssh, i am allowed to store 300 MB there, fusermount is available, can i use this to get some extra storage, like a fs provided over ssh?
[21:57] <bekks> joelmo: you have a quota of 300M, no matter how you access it.
[21:58] <jrib> ph8: pastebin your script
[21:58] <ammar83> Hello
[21:58] <ammar83> Q: 12.04 vs 13.04?
[21:59] <bekks> ammar83: That not a question at all.
[21:59] <joelmo> bekks: ah really? but if i can use the tmpfs, im ok with just having the information there for a short period of time
[21:59] <ammar83> bekks: why not?
[21:59] <bekks> ammar83: Why should it?
[21:59] <bekks> ammar83: red vs. blue? :P
[22:00] <ammar83> bekks: good point!
[22:00] <joelmo> i like blue
[22:00] <ammar83> bekks: I have been using 13.04 and it crashed everytime and had many problems and I don't know exactly what better features it has over the 12.04
[22:00] <bekks> ammar83: then just use 12.04
[22:01] <ammar83> bekks: What would I lose if I went back to 12.04?
[22:01] <bekks> ammar83: Nothing, if you ask like that,
[22:02] <daftykins> ammar83: 13.04 only has 3 months left anyway. 12.04 is a long term support (LTS) release
[22:02] <ammar83> daftykins: Thank you! Finally someone who is helpful
[22:03] <ammar83> daftykins: Do you use 12.04?
[22:03] <daftykins> i only use servers really
[22:03] <ammar83> interesting
[22:12] <SteveH0> Is there anyone that can help me debug a problem in backintime?
[22:12] <Tex_Nick> !details SteveH0
[22:13] <Tex_Nick> !details | SteveH0
[22:15] <myrti> hi guys.. i tried to run ubuntu from a liveusb, but the screen is black. Is there anything that can help me troubleshoot.. I saw these icons during boot: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/installation/live_cd_maverick1.png?cache= but now there's nothing
[22:15] <SteveH0> I'm getting a consistent error, but I didn't want to post to pastebin.  I'm running 12.04 and after a long period of backing up, it craps out with a 5888 on main.c(30).
[22:15] <myrti> it's a 13.04 install
[22:15] <bekks> SteveH0: why dont you want to pastebin the error?
[22:16] <Vialas> SteveH0 you from NSA?
[22:16] <Vialas> tee hee
[22:16] <myrti> ok, i can even select "run ubuntu from this USB" and then the screen goes black
[22:17] <bekks> !nomodeset | myrti
[22:17] <SteveH0> It is located at <http://pastebin.com/SQEEUYc8>
[22:18] <Aeros> does anyone here know how to get and HFS+ journaled drive mounted in ubuntu server 12?
[22:18] <SteveH0> myrti: you see nothing?  Not even a command prom[t?
[22:19] <myrti> bekks i have an intel with integrated grpahics, does that also apply then?
[22:19] <myrti> SteveH0 no, it's like the screen is turned off
[22:19] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | myrti
[22:20] <myrti> zykotick9 yes, that's what bekks linked as well. just wondering if this is also applicable when i don't have a graphic card but integrated grpahics from an intel cpu
[22:20] <Vialas> can someone help me with a cloud9 error im having. essentially i cant edit / open any file through the web portal
[22:20] <SteveH0> I believe that my problem comes from either a bad attr or perhaps link, but don't know how to debug from the error I've posted.
[22:21] <bekks> myrti: yes.
[22:22] <myrti> bekks thanks, i already tried it and it worked :)
[22:22] <bekks> myrti: :)
[22:22] <myrti> now i'm at the login page and the user is live and asking for a password.. Anyone know what that is?
[22:23] <bekks> myrti: press enter
[22:23] <myrti> it says incorrect password, pelase try again
[22:27] <daftykins> myrti: are you sure the user isn't 'ubuntu' and password blank?
[22:28] <myrti> i just rebooted and now it logged in automatically... things sure are being weird
[22:28] <daftykins> :S
[22:28] <daftykins> that ubuntu consistency we all know and love
[22:29] <myrti> daftykins: i actually added my own user, because i was already logged in tty, and still with the new user account and the password i set myself mere seconds ago (the password was: j) it would sya wrong password
[22:30] <daftykins> myrti: why would you modify a live session that will disappear? :)
[22:30] <myrti> daftykins to be able to get passed the login screen :p
[22:34] <someking> quit
[22:36] <myrti> well, thanks guys, at least I now know that the laptop can boot ubuntu if necessary.. i'm prolly gonna wait for 13.10 instead of installing 13.04 now
[22:36] <daftykins> wise decision
[22:37] <reisio> quite a silly decision
[22:38] <daftykins> given 13.04 will only last 3.5-ish more months?
[22:38] <daftykins> why would anyone install that now.
[22:38] <SteveH0> Any thoughts on my backintime problem at <http://pastebin.com/SQEEUYc8>
[22:38] <Aeros> i'm getting 'temporary failure resolving' messages for apt-get
[22:39] <Aeros> can someone try sudo apt-get install hfsprogs ?
[22:39] <Aeros> i'm trying a temporary DNS to see if that fixes the issue
[22:40] <Aeros> hm, that fixed it. never mind.
[22:40]  * kaddi = myrti
[22:40] <kaddi> fascinating quit messages i have there o.0
[22:41] <kaddi> reisio, one of the reasons I decided not to install straight away is that ubuntu seems unhappy with my screen resolution and given that this is a haswell processor I have hopes that 13.10 is better suited than 13.04
[22:42] <daftykins> yeah you're going to want a 3.10+ kernel with haswell
[22:42] <kaddi> this being said by the time I've found the time to read up on these issues and the difference between 13.04 and 13.10 for them, 13.10 will have been released anyways :p
[22:42] <Aeros> grrrr. i still can't mount the HFS+ volume
[22:42] <Aeros> anyone have suggestions?
[22:43] <daftykins> perhaps inform us of what you're *really* trying to do, rather than the specific step you're getting stuck on
[22:43] <reisio> you can use a 3.10 kernel with whatever version you like
[22:43] <Aeros> me?
[22:43] <Tausen> I'm having some issues when I switch user or log out of xubuntu - I just get a black screen with a white prompt in the upper left. Ctrl-alt-Fx keys not working either - any ideas?
[22:45] <reisio> Aeros: ?
[22:47] <Aeros> yes?
[22:47] <reisio> Aeros: what's up?
[22:48] <Aeros> i have a backup drive formatted for time machine backups, and i'm putting that into an ubuntu server system so that i can share it over samba and backup over the network
[22:48] <reisio> ok
[22:49] <Aeros> using mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda /mount/point, it says  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[22:49] <Aeros>       missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[22:49] <Aeros>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[22:49] <Aeros>        dmesg | tail  or so
[22:49] <FloodBot1> Aeros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <daftykins> is HFS+ even going to be happy about storing other data?
[22:49] <daftykins> Aeros: so what does dmesg say?
[22:49] <daftykins> use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:49] <Aeros> hfs: unable to find HFS+ superblock
[22:50] <Aeros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224577/
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> sounds li18:49:05 @FloodBot1 | Aeros: Please
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> ke it dosent think the disk is a HFS+ partition
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> silly touchpad pasteing oddly..
[22:51] <daftykins> Aeros: should that not be /dev/sdaX not just /dev/sda
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> multitouch still seems to need a bit of work
[22:51] <Aeros> well using fdisk -l it says under type that it's GPT
[22:51] <Aeros> which doesn't make sense
[22:52] <daftykins> can you pastebin the fdisk output?
[22:52] <Aeros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6224586/
[22:52] <Aeros> hm, perhaps i should have been using sda1
[22:53] <Aeros> sda1 returns the same errors
[23:03] <nishanth> can someone help me install driver for my USB wireless adapter
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  have you determined its chipset yet? that would be step #1
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[23:04] <nishanth> Dr_Willis http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_AE1200
[23:04] <nishanth> Dr_Willis Broadcom BCM43235
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> I think you basically have to download a few packages from another machine, then transfer them over via a usb flash drive.
[23:06] <samholmes> what's the dif between apt-get and aptitude?
[23:07] <nishanth> Dr_Willis i have that link but i dont know where to go from there....it looks highly technical
[23:07] <reisio> aptitude has more automagic
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> i bought a cheap $10 edimax wifi dongle the other month that works out of the box. makes installing needed drivers for problem wifi dongles much easier
[23:07] <reisio> good sometimes, awful others
[23:07] <SteveH0> Aptitude is a fancier GUI.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  i never need to follow the guide. so no idea on what parts may cause issues. easiest way is to run a wire for a few min, or use a dongle that works out of the box
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> ive learned to avoide aptitude.. :) or at least pay VERY close attention to what its doing
[23:08] <Aeros> daftykins, any ideas?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> aptitude decided to remove 300+ packages, then reinstalled them.. for me once. ;)
[23:08] <nishanth> Dr_Willis basically i want to know how i can install brcmfmac open source driver
[23:08] <daftykins> Aeros: nah, i don't even think what you want to do is going to be a good idea
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  open sourced should be included by default as far as i know
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  unless its some new driver not in the default kernel
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> or it may still need the firmware packages
[23:09] <reisio> yeah aptitude is better for installing things
[23:09] <reisio> not maintenance or removal
[23:10] <zombietoad> j/ #fedora
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have more detailed guides  nishanth
[23:10] <Aeros> why not, daftykins?
[23:10] <nishanth> Dr_Willis  a lot of these terms like firmware are kind of new to me
[23:10] <daftykins> Aeros: sorry GTA V calls
[23:10] <Aeros> xD okay
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  well i guess you can ask a lot of questions here.  but id suggest doing some reading of the guides first so you sort of get the basics of whats going on first
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  the drivers load the firmware that  the code the card uses internally basically. thats the part that often cant be included by default for legal reasons
[23:13] <zombietoad> Can i ask a quick question before i install fedora ? :)
[23:13] <reisio> ?
[23:13] <reisio> I think you just did
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> zombietoad:  we dont really care what you install. ;) or ask as long as its somehow ubuntu support related
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> zombietoad:  and there is a fedora channel
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> nishanth:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Broadcom+BCM43235  seems to have some good info
[23:14] <zombietoad> i have installed 3 different versions of linux now, and none of them support my amd mobility HD 4250, i red somewhere that fedore support it. true or false ? :)
[23:15] <bekks> zombietoad: ask the fedora support
[23:15] <zombietoad> a shit... i pressed the wrong tab ... sorry
[23:15] <Ben64> zombietoad: pretty sure the open source drivers would work for that
[23:15] <bekks> zombietoad: and i bet ubuntu supports it, too.
[23:15] <linux> any way to get chatroulete.com to work with ubuntu ?
[23:16] <linux> no camera in web site
[23:16] <reisio> does your camera work at all?
[23:16] <bekks> linux: why do you need a cam to play roulette?
[23:16] <linux> yes
[23:16] <linux> and with cheese
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> run cheese.. does the cam work?
[23:16] <reisio> bekks: how else are you supposed to show off your crotch?
[23:16] <kaddi> i want cheese >.>
[23:16] <linux> yes it works  fine
[23:17] <linux> on other stuf and on skype to
[23:17] <bekks> reisio: well play, sir. :)
[23:17] <OerHeks> linux, maybe some flash settings, see the flash settings page @ adobe
[23:17] <linux> yes yes all time ubuntu have flash problems
[23:18] <linux> old story
[23:18] <reisio> yup, old _yarn_
[23:18] <bekks> linux: which is not true.
[23:18] <nishanth> Dr_Willis could you please guide me where to go from here , only 2 questions basically how do i download brcmfmac and how do i install it
[23:19] <bekks> linux: flash works fine here, since 2003 at least.
[23:19] <linux> I wish that they set on logon defoult rule   with ccsm like basic, middle and maximum with crazy compiz settings so other oss users sheet pents when they see desktop on ubuntu XD
[23:19] <bekks> linux: ah, you were banned before for that statement.
[23:22] <bekks> !rootirc | ammini
[23:23] <bekks> hmm
[23:23] <bekks> !rootirc | amzari
[23:23] <pikoups> hi someone can help me pls?
[23:23] <bekks> pikoups: how do we know?
[23:23] <pikoups> ok
[23:24] <OerHeks> Just ask and find out pikoups
[23:24] <pikoups> i installed a ircu server (it works!), and i want to connect a cservice on it, but i got the error Link with x.chu-nantes.fr cancelled: Write error, closing link
[23:24] <pikoups> i think my CNH lines doesn't works
[23:24] <pikoups> can i paste them here?
[23:25] <bekks> pikoups: No. Use a pastebin.
[23:25] <bekks> pikoups: And which ubuntu do you use?
[23:25] <pikoups> the last
[23:25] <pikoups> 13.04
[23:26] <pikoups> http://pastebin.com/43PdWqCE
[23:26] <pikoups> here
[23:26] <pikoups> can u verify the cline to link the services server?
[23:26] <bekks> pikoups: Not without the actual error statement,
[23:26] <pikoups> ?
[23:27] <bekks> pikoups: Which error do you get?
[23:27] <Ben64> pikoups: again, you probably shouldn't be running an irc server if you have to come here an ask about everything
[23:27] <pikoups> http://pastebin.com/uuLWCQCT this error
[23:27] <pikoups> ben64 this is my last question lol
[23:28] <Ben64> how to compile, how to run, how to connect, how to configure
[23:28] <Ben64> seems like a bad idea
[23:28] <bekks> pikoups: The IP of the server you are trying to connect to is a non routable IP.
[23:28] <pikoups> ben64 i know the error in compiling, i did a -lresolv in my flags
[23:29] <pikoups> bekks AH OK
[23:29] <Ben64> you're going to end up getting hacked :|
[23:29] <pikoups> i had to ry <IP_ADDRESS> you think?
[23:29] <bekks> pikoups: Do you think localhost is the remote chat server you want to connect to?
[23:30] <pikoups> désolé je parle francais et je n'ai pas très bien compris ta question
[23:30] <pikoups> yes it's my comp
[23:30] <pikoups> local
[23:31] <bekks> Je ne comprais francais bien, mais je comprends ton phrase ;)
[23:31] <pikoups> hehe :)
[23:31] <pikoups> hey
[23:31] <pikoups> when i type localhost
[23:32] <pikoups>  *** Notice -- Connect to *@loalhost failed: host lookup
[23:32] <pikoups> * *** Notice -- Host loalhost unknown
[23:32] <jrib> pikoups: you typed "loalhost"
[23:32] <kaddi> if necessary i can also translate / si besoin, je peux faire la traducation
[23:32] <pikoups> yes
[23:32] <pikoups> LOL §
[23:32] <pikoups> omg sorry :)
[23:32] <pikoups> thx
[23:32] <pikoups> *** Notice -- Connect to *@localhost failed: host lookup
[23:33] <pikoups> http://pastebin.com/ar5y0TJZ
[23:34] <Marlenee> in screen tool can i set scroll back more that 30 lines and if possible how can i set it ?
[23:35] <Ben64> pikoups: you should see if there is a help forum for the irc server you're running, this isn't really an ubuntu issue
[23:35] <pikoups> ah ok
[23:35] <pikoups> his is a ircu version 2004, forum is probably off right now
[23:35] <reisio> Marlenee: you can set it on demand by hitting CTRL+a, : (shift+;)
[23:35] <Ben64> Marlenee: you can usually see further back using CTRL+A [
[23:35] <reisio> Marlenee: then typing 'scrollback 7777', then enter
[23:36] <reisio> or you can start screen with -h #
[23:36] <reisio> or you can put defscrollback # into ~/.screenrc
[23:40] <pikoups> bye and ty a lot
[23:40] <pikoups> :)
[23:41] <reisio> AND YOU!
[23:41] <Marlenee> reisio : there's no ~/.screenrc in my server
[23:42] <reisio> Marlenee: feel free to add one
[23:42] <reisio> if you have root and want to change it for everyone, modify /etc/screenrc
[23:42] <nishanth_> can anyone help me guide through downloading and installing brcfmac driver?
[23:46] <Marlenee> reisio : it work fine what about screen work befor i change defscrollback
[23:46] <reisio> Marlenee: pardon?
[23:46] <Marlenee> this screen still have the defscrollback 1024
[23:46] <Marlenee> and i set fro all new screen 20000
[23:48] <reisio> Marlenee: yes, well I wouldn't expect it to reread a config after it's already started
[23:48] <reisio> Marlenee: use the CTRL+a thing I said earlier for already running ones
[23:59] <TLoFP> hi, I am trying to install 10.04 LTS from USB stick
[23:59] <TLoFP> in the process it says no common CD-ROM drive was detected
[23:59] <TLoFP> how can I get passed this prompt?


[14:25] <maxolasersquad> ShawnR: A future where one company does the hardware, the OS, and is the gatekeeper of the software is not very exciting to me. I'm very surprised to see Microsoft trying to clone Apple's business model. They have historically had two different business models, and Microsoft has historically been the winner.
[14:45] <maxolasersquad> I'm still reluctant to pass of Microsoft has being able to enter into the tablet/phone market. They have a lot of money and influence. I believe that in time they could gain the critical mass necessary to become a viable player.
[14:47] <ropetin> They have the potential, but they will be unlikely to succeed in my opinion.  They've been through things like this before and they are never able to seal the deal
[14:47] <ropetin> Windows Phone 7 is apparenty pretty good, but unless they go heavily after the BlackBerry market, they don't really have a position
[14:49] <ropetin> Also, make -j48 is AWESOME
[16:06] <maxolasersquad> ropetin: I think going after the blackberry market is exactly how they will succeed. They finally have a solid product, and meanwhile Blackberry fans are going to have to find an exit strategy very soon, and Windows phones and tablets are probably a good fit, culturally speaking.
[16:07] <ropetin> +1 to that, but I have a horrible feeling they will ignore that market and try to go after iPhone users
[16:07] <ropetin> And that will never work
[16:12] <maxolasersquad> Oracle is accepting $0 in damaged from Google for its /ingringement/.
[16:21] <maxh> ropetin: There's still a blackberry market? :P
[16:22] <ropetin> maxh: yup, but slowly dying.  Which sucks on some levels
[16:23] <ropetin> I have a blackberry for work, and it does exactly what it needs to do
[16:23] <ropetin> No more, no less
[16:23] <ropetin> Of course my personal phone is Android ;)
[16:44] <DammitJim> anyone got a Galaxy S2 from T-Mobile?


[11:32] <Wolfger> Morning
[11:34] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:35] <snap-l> Looks like now I'm getting followed by people on G+ that I have NFC who they are.
[11:53] <Wolfger> I have been followed by only one person who I have NFC about. I accepted him based on mutual circled people, he seems to be Linux oriented.
[11:54] <Wolfger> I have been followed by others i have VLFC about, but I at least recognize the names as people from Twitter/Identica/FB...
[11:55] <Wolfger> also, snap-l, I would point out that you did a Lococast about G+? So yeah... I would expect you get a few NFC's. You're a pseudo rock star. ;-)
[12:10] <snap-l> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubuntu-meta/1.232
[12:10] <snap-l> Wolfger: Yeah, I'm a rock star alright
[12:11] <snap-l> When I go to the sub shop and people I don't know ask for my autograph, then I'm a rock star. ;)
[12:11] <snap-l> Apparently Evolution is being replaced by Thunderbird.
[12:12]  * snap-l checks it out
[12:12] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, getting a lot of those lately myself
[12:12] <rick_h_> and from other countries
[12:12] <rick_h_> making for an interesting 'incoming' feed
[12:15] <greg-g> I'm here at work and using my laptop thanks to rick_h_  :)
[12:15] <rick_h_> greg-g: awesome, glad it worked out
[12:15] <rick_h_> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/WVOYyFzG0HiRBqRiAIxw/
[12:15] <rick_h_> so that came in my email today :/
[12:17] <greg-g> heh, better go protect your IP in china domain names
[12:17] <rick_h_> I know, who knew our little MI woodworking group was so popular
[12:23] <greg-g> rick_h_: with offlineimap/mutt and your google hosted domain, do you download the "All Mail" folder or not?
[12:23] <rick_h_> no, I don't think so
[12:24] <rick_h_> folderfilter = lambda foldername: foldername not in ['[Gmail]/All Mail', '[Gmail]/Spam', '[Gmail]/Important']
[12:25] <greg-g> so you "archive" your inbox messages to a separate archive folder?
[12:25] <rick_h_> right
[12:25]  * greg-g nods
[12:25] <rick_h_> I have a folder Archive and use that with my A command in mutt
[12:25] <greg-g> me too, but I was wondering if I needed to anymore.
[12:26] <rick_h_> Yea, I don't recall the original deal with that
[12:26] <greg-g> I am experiencing an offlineimap issue that might make me redownload everything :/
[12:26] <rick_h_> ouch
[12:35] <greg-g> hmm, I might be able to fix it by just deleting the .offlineimap/Account-XXX folder (associated ones in there)
[12:35] <greg-g> this is what happens when you let your harddrive run out of space and offlineimap tries to run, kids
[12:37] <rick_h_> dbl ouch
[12:39] <greg-g> yeah, I need to figure out my photo storing method, can't keep them all, and videos, on the laptop harddrive anymore
[12:39] <brousch> geez
[12:39] <brousch> they make 1TB laptop drives now
[12:40] <snap-l> So, anyone want to take bets on what application will get cut in O+1?
[12:40] <rick_h_> linux?
[12:40] <rick_h_> :P
[12:40] <rick_h_> brousch: not that perform like an SSD
[12:40] <brousch> i'm using a 500GB hybrid ssd/hd
[12:40] <brousch> i'm very happy with it
[12:57] <Wolfger> Man, I want I larger version of this to use as my wallpaper... http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2011/06/vinyl-pirate-figure-intro-thumb-640xauto-23086.jpg
[13:03] <snap-l> Heh
[13:04] <snap-l> greg-g: Yeah, mail doesn't handle curvebals very well
[14:31] <rick_h_> hah, lovely work email on "cell phone ettiquette"
[14:32] <rick_h_> guess people can't find the vibrate button on their phones
[14:34] <snap-l> Shuld get an iPhone. It's a switch. ;)
[14:34] <rick_h_> doh! damn horrible UX with those buttons
[14:34]  * snap-l got some new CC music in the mail today.
[14:34] <rick_h_> if only someone had thought to do the work to make them switches
[14:34] <rick_h_> ooh, nice
[14:35] <snap-l> http://cryogen.darkmillenniumrecords.com/
[14:37] <snap-l> Problem will be waiting an episode to unleash this.
[14:37] <rick_h_> lol
[14:37] <snap-l> Since 25 is the Big 4 of CC metal
[14:38] <rick_h_> well it's a bit out of my norm /me hides his green day in cloud player he's currently listening to
[14:38] <snap-l> No worries.
[14:38] <snap-l> rick_h_: Have you heard Amity in Fame?
[14:38] <rick_h_> but very cool that there's this wealth of CC stuff I never knew
[14:38] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm having fun with finding this stuff.
[14:39] <rick_h_> don't think I've heard this before
[14:39] <rick_h_> funny that they have this roomba ad on the front page lol
[14:39] <snap-l> http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/28245
[14:39] <greg-g> hmmm, hybrid ssd/platter laptop drive, just maybe
[14:40] <snap-l> Heh, and that's why I have adblock installed
[14:40] <rick_h_> greg-g: how big is your current SSD?
[14:40] <greg-g> 140
[14:40] <rick_h_> wow, and all filled eh
[14:40] <snap-l> The only thing that worries me about SSD / platter is what happens during a power failure, and what happens when the SSD hits max write cycle.
[14:40] <greg-g> yeah, way too much video
[14:41] <snap-l> s/video/pron/
[14:41] <snap-l> FTFY.
[14:41] <greg-g> ty
[14:41] <snap-l> yw
[14:41] <rick_h_> gotcha, yea I don't have much of that and keep my music cloud now
[14:41] <rick_h_> move those two and suddently I can live in < 60gb
[14:41] <greg-g> rick_h_: personal cloud or ?? for music?
[14:41] <rick_h_> the amazon stuff
[14:41] <greg-g> ah, yeah
[14:42] <snap-l> I can't live with cloud music
[14:42] <rick_h_> since I get my mp3s there anyway, easy to hit buy and keep it cloud
[14:42] <snap-l> a) FLAC is too big for cloud
[14:42] <snap-l> b) See a)
[14:42] <rick_h_> lol
[14:43] <rick_h_> just need a player to read your s3 repo and buffer things for you nicely
[14:43] <snap-l> I love the idea of cloud-storage, but it's not practical for me outside of U1
[14:43] <greg-g> you could run Zeya on a micro instance and have it read your S3 storage
[14:43] <rick_h_> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/isimpledesign-amazon-s3-music-player-plugin/ close
[14:44] <snap-l> Lamedrop to convert
[14:44] <snap-l> hells no.
[14:44] <rick_h_> I said close...as in does the reading and such
[14:44] <rick_h_> just wrong format
[14:45] <rick_h_> upload would be free now
[14:45] <rick_h_> $8.4/mo for storing 660gb of music
[14:46] <rick_h_> and if you streamed it all out 3x a month another $13 in data transfer
[14:46] <snap-l> Or I could buy a HD for that kind of money. ;)
[14:46] <rick_h_> never had s3 disappear on me :P
[14:47] <snap-l> Truth
[14:49] <greg-g> well, there was that one time when the whole social web stopped working because of amazon's downtime
[14:50] <rick_h_> but s3 never went down or away
[14:50] <snap-l> Considering the average file on my music storage is 30MB, that might be fun.
[14:50] <greg-g> rick_h_: oh right, it was only compute?
[14:50] <snap-l> Though that seems a bit high. Probably more like 20MB
[14:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: right, and end of the day one DC
[14:50] <rick_h_> admittingly, it had multiple parts they said would never go down together
[14:50] <rick_h_> but it was still one DC went down
[14:50]  * greg-g nods
[14:51] <Wolfger> I need a rich benefactor.... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=176029&sku=S203-101201&SRCCODE=WEM2730SS&cm_mmc=email-_-Main-_-WEM2730-_-tigeremail2730
[14:51] <rick_h_> says the man with one server running bookie in one DC and all kinds of SPOF :)
[14:52] <snap-l> Wolfger: You don't need a tablet
[14:52] <Wolfger> I didn't say I did.
[14:52] <snap-l> This is not the droid you're looking for
[14:52] <snap-l> You can go about your business.
[14:52] <Wolfger> I said I needed a rich benefactor. I *want* the Galaxy Tab
[14:52] <Wolfger> it's sexy
[14:53] <snap-l> What you need is a nice, wholesome Nintendo 3DS.
[14:53] <snap-l> No web browser to distract your game playing
[14:53] <rick_h_> lol
[14:53] <snap-l> (Actually, I think  the 3DS has opera)
[14:53] <snap-l> so, FWIW.
[14:54] <rick_h_> man my boss is going to love me "I can haz memcached pls? kthx"
[14:54] <rick_h_> I'm just full of new stuff I want
[14:55] <snap-l> heh
[14:56] <snap-l> Memcached isn't that out there for the wants / needs
[14:56] <rick_h_> we don't currently have a memcache server
[14:56] <rick_h_> so I'm asking for hardware to run node, postgres, memcache, couchdb
[14:56] <rick_h_> figure wth, I'll do it on the db for now and wait for him to get sick of me hammering on it :)
[14:57] <Wolfger> Game playing? Social networking. The games I like won't play on netbook/tablet devices (yet) :-p
[14:58] <Wolfger> Also, for e-books and for pron
[15:27] <snap-l> Anyone know of any good utilities to unf*** a Windows XP machine?
[15:27] <snap-l> ie: any bootable Linux distros that can do virusscan?
[15:38] <Wolfger> snap-l: Knoppix
[15:40] <snap-l> Does it have virusscanning built-in?
[15:41] <Wolfger> I recall that it did (years ago).
[15:42] <Blazeix> I've used systemrescuecd before
[15:42] <Wolfger> http://njlinux.blogspot.com/2008/01/virus-scan-windows-using-linux-live-cd.html
[15:42] <Blazeix> it has clamAV
[15:42] <Wolfger> so apparently requires one install from command line
[15:44] <rick_h_> http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/07/05/wingardium-leviosa-this-rotocopter-is-controlled-by-the-kinect/
[15:44] <Wolfger> also: http://www.oreillynet.com/sysadmin/blog/2004/06/scanning_for_viruses_with_knop.html
[15:45] <rick_h_> the end of that video is great ^^
[15:45] <Wolfger> Kinect-controlled copter?   I hid it in her purse in a ziplock bag :)
[17:01] <gamerchick02> looked kinda silly.
[17:01] <_stink_> you don't mess around.
[17:01] <_stink_> i should know this
[17:01] <gamerchick02> you need a murse, rick_h_
[17:01] <gamerchick02> then you can carry your netbook and your hot sauce with no problems.
[17:01] <rick_h_> lol, I'm not really the 'murse' kind of guy
[17:02] <gamerchick02> i thank gods i'm a woman and can carry one. because if i couldn't, my pants/shorts wouldn't hold up.
[17:02] <rick_h_> well, I mean after you have some of that stuff, no sauce at taco bell is edible
[17:02] <gamerchick02> seriously. i think i carry too much around.
[17:02] <rick_h_> not that their food is entirely either, but still
[17:02] <gamerchick02> well then. i might have to try that
[17:02] <gamerchick02> taco bell is a strange craving i get every once in awhile
[17:02] <gamerchick02> no, i'm not pregnant.
[17:02] <rick_h_> yea, I'm with you
[17:02] <gamerchick02> it just...
[17:02] <rick_h_> same boat, every other month, wife is working late, don't want to cook something...taco bell it
[17:02] <gamerchick02> i go, i want some taco bell. and nothing else will work.
[17:03] <gamerchick02> :)
[17:03] <gamerchick02> it's from college, i'm sure.
[17:03] <rick_h_> hah, definitely
[17:03] <rick_h_> my fraternity house used to make late runs there and to BK whenever they had .99 whoppers.
[17:03] <_stink_> yeah, i have a pavlovian response to the theme from the BBC World Service that airs on Michigan Radio from 11pm-4am
[17:03] <_stink_> i hear that theme... must have taco bell
[17:03] <rick_h_> care full of 7 guys squeezed in ordering up tons of food
[17:03] <rick_h_> for $20
[17:03] <_stink_> from college days
[17:03] <rick_h_> /care/car
[17:04] <gamerchick02> hah!
[17:04] <gamerchick02> yes.
[17:04] <gamerchick02> funny story:
[17:04] <rick_h_> lol, more to ship than to buy my year's supply of hotsauce
[17:04] <gamerchick02> brother is a member of Delta Chi
[17:04] <rick_h_> booo :P
[17:05] <gamerchick02> he's also one of the ones that wasn't drunk, this particular evening.
[17:05] <gamerchick02> he's in his room, and 5 (yes 5) of his drunk as skunk brothers, wearing SOMBREROS, want taco bell.
[17:05] <gamerchick02> he's the only one sober, so they go to him.
[17:06] <gamerchick02> he's like, "i'm not driving you dressed like that to the taco bell drive through.
[17:06] <gamerchick02> "
[17:06] <gamerchick02> at kettering, rick_h_
[17:06] <gamerchick02> what fraternity are you a part of?
[17:06] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: yea, I was LCA there at kettering
[17:06]  * gamerchick02 is a theta phi
[17:06] <rick_h_> sorry, LXA
[17:06] <gamerchick02> oooh!
[17:06] <rick_h_> or however you want to shorten it
[17:06] <gamerchick02> sweet.
[17:06] <gamerchick02> LXA works.
[17:07] <rick_h_> people that don't know hate the 'Chi' X thing
[17:07] <rick_h_> so I tend to do C usually
[17:07] <rick_h_> but yea
[17:07] <rick_h_> ok, thanks for the reminder gamerchick02, sauce is ordered for the next year
[17:07] <gamerchick02> :) rick_h_ cool beans!
[17:08] <gamerchick02> so, no murse for you?
[17:08] <snap-l> Oh I'm going to hurt someone
[17:08] <gamerchick02> you could carry everything you need.
[17:08] <snap-l> can't run clamscan because I'm running out of memory
[17:08]  * gamerchick02 gets out of snap-l 's way
[17:08] <rick_h_> no, I'll just start carrying my laptop backpack around all the time
[17:08] <rick_h_> like I'm a traveling hippie
[17:09] <rick_h_> snap-l: "I'm sorry, I did everything I could. Here's your new linux machine"
[17:09] <greg-g> +1
[17:09] <rick_h_> maybe?
[17:09] <gamerchick02> don't hippies carry hemp murses?
[17:09] <rick_h_> I don't think I've seen greg-g with one :)
[17:09] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ has a point, snap-l. great idea!
[17:09] <snap-l> Save for having to find some replacements for the stuff that he uses to tweak his RC cars and his multimeter, this is a great idea.
[17:10] <gamerchick02> maybe it's time for a google search. *bows to the almighty google*
[17:10] <rick_h_> ugh
[17:10] <rick_h_> "and I pre-installed a bunch of books on your new hobby! ham radio!"
[17:10] <rick_h_> lots of stuff for that on there
[17:10] <_stink_> haha
[17:11] <gamerchick02> lol, rick_h_
[17:11] <gamerchick02> your new hobby. i like that.
[17:11] <snap-l> http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8963
[17:11] <rick_h_> rc cars are for kids, unless they're jets or other aircraft that I wish I could do
[17:12] <rick_h_> well, working in VM with usb is cool
[17:13] <gamerchick02> actually, the vm and wine idea is a great one.
[17:13] <rick_h_> greg-g: hah, of course you'd come up with that bug :P
[17:13] <rick_h_> I debated long/hard on that.
[17:23] <greg-g> :)
[17:36] <gamerchick02> i refuse to get State Farm insurance.
[17:36] <gamerchick02> i'm sick of them sending me pleas to switch my insurance.
[17:36] <greg-g> they all do that
[17:36] <gamerchick02> them and progressive. i will never do business with those companies. ever
[17:37] <greg-g> trust me, I have state farm and get the same crap from progressive
[17:37] <gamerchick02> they all need to have their reproductive organs forcibly and painfully removed.
[17:37] <gamerchick02> i hate spam and i hate paper spam.
[17:38]  * greg-g nods
[17:47] <gamerchick02> http://gamerchick02.tumblr.com/post/7269076338/americanroutes-1952-vincent-black-lightning
[17:47]  * gamerchick02 drools
[17:47] <gamerchick02> beautiful.
[18:12] <gamerchick02> i like the ending track for lococast.
[18:12] <rick_h_> http://mashable.com/2011/07/05/google-blogger-picasa-rebranding/
[18:13] <gamerchick02> hrm. google+ blogging?
[18:13] <gamerchick02> google blogs. that's cool
[18:13] <gamerchick02> i wonder if they're fixing the whole "no pages" thing.
[18:35] <gamerchick02> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/top-terminal-commands-newbie/ interesting. and some upset in the comments, as is per usual with OMGUbuntu.
[18:43] <jjesse> going through my ubuntu-us-mi label in gmail and keep seeing notifications that "this message may not have been sent by: email address" is this because you guys are sending from programs outside of gmail?
[18:43] <jjesse> ie Wolfger's message to a subject "removing all but current kernel"
[18:44] <jjesse> getting it also in emails brousch has sent
[18:44] <Wolfger> I think that's because it's going through the mailing list e-mail....
[18:45] <jjesse> i don't see it on greg-g's email
[18:46] <Wolfger> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=185812
[18:46] <Wolfger> Greg is not using Gmail
[18:49] <Wolfger> From Robert Citek's e-mail in that thread: Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: <IP_ADDRESS> is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:49] <jjesse> ah so its because of the list software
[19:16] <snap-l> God, I hate Windows
[19:16] <gamerchick02> i love to open windows in the spring when it's nice and cool out. /snark *ducks and runs*
[19:17] <snap-l> This machine is essentially fucked
[19:17] <gamerchick02> is there a way to try 7 on it, in all seriousness?
[19:17] <snap-l> It's a Latitude D610
[19:17] <gamerchick02> 7 is like a million times better than xp
[19:17] <snap-l> it was old when it was bought
[19:17] <jjesse> should run windows 7 right?
[19:17] <gamerchick02> eee.
[19:17] <gamerchick02> maybe not.
[19:17] <gamerchick02> what about Mint?
[19:17] <gamerchick02> seriously.
[19:18] <jjesse> works fine on windows 7 but need the vista sound driverhttp://forums.cnet.com/7723-7587_102-332366.html
[19:18] <snap-l> If I put Linux on this machine, it's essentially useless to my bro-in-law
[19:18] <_stink_> i can empathize with that.
[19:18] <snap-l> and if I put 7 on it, it's essentially useless too
[19:18] <gamerchick02> so can i. :(
[19:18] <gamerchick02> sorry, snap-l.
[19:19] <snap-l> plus, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have discs so I can slam it
[19:19] <gamerchick02> i wish i could help you.
[19:19] <snap-l> and frankly he doesn't have the $$ to go out and get a new machine, which is what I think he's going to do anyway.
[19:19] <snap-l> because the problem isn't Windows, it's the fact that my bro-in-law will click on anything to get to where he wants to go
[19:20] <gamerchick02> oh dear god.
[19:20] <gamerchick02> viruses and spyware galore, eh?
[19:20] <snap-l> he's not terribly computer literate
[19:20] <snap-l> well, there's one that I think I wiped, but the machine has even more problems than that
[19:20] <snap-l> Think whatever it was corrupted something on there
[19:21] <snap-l> avg won't start up
[19:21] <gamerchick02> ugh
[19:21] <gamerchick02> what about microsoft security essentials?
[19:21] <_stink_> yeah, it's tough.  i tell people that once you have any malware, the only solution is to back up data and reinstall.
[19:21] <gamerchick02> that's lighter and seems to work better for me
[19:21] <_stink_> but with no backups or install media, that can't be done.
[19:22] <snap-l> And I think it has just about every single update queued up since the last time I saw this machine
[19:22] <gamerchick02> oh. my. god.
[19:22] <gamerchick02> and he's been ONLINE all this time???
[19:23] <snap-l> gamerchick02: Not sure
[19:23] <snap-l> he doesn't use the computer much
[19:23] <gamerchick02> wow.
[19:23] <gamerchick02> do they have a high-speed internet connection?
[19:23] <snap-l> It's asking me to install SP3, though, if that's any indication
[19:23] <gamerchick02> if so, then he probably has been.
[19:23] <gamerchick02> damn.
[19:24] <snap-l> Going to try an update, since there'a malicious software removal tool that should be installed
[19:24] <snap-l> but frankly I don't see much hope for it in it's current state.
[19:25] <snap-l> Honestly, if they made DOS versions of his programs, I think he'd be happier
[19:25] <snap-l> I know I would
[19:25] <gamerchick02> *shakes head* wow.
[19:33] <snap-l> Whelp, xubuntu, here we come.
[19:33] <snap-l> Just called him
[19:33] <snap-l> I think I can figure something out for his multimeter.
[19:33] <snap-l> and with some luck maybe Wine will handle the USB interface.
[19:34] <snap-l> And it's not like I'm not a coder, and couldn't code up something for his multimeter. ;)
[19:34] <snap-l> That too, and I can make sure this damn thing gets updated.
[19:36] <gamerchick02> Oooh. Xubuntu will be much better for him, IMHO.
[19:36] <gamerchick02> good luck!
[19:38] <snap-l> Thank you!
[19:39] <gamerchick02> you're welcome! are you going to tweak the ui to make it easier for him to work with?
[19:39] <snap-l> I'm going to make this as much of a busy-box for him as I can
[19:40] <snap-l> ie: he'll be able to get in, get out, and get done
[19:40] <gamerchick02> good.
[21:20] <greg-g> rick_h_: just fyi, I just used your address again for this: http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/05/free-official-ubuntu-book-for-approved-loco-teams/
[21:20] <greg-g> :)
[22:17] <rick_h_> greg-g: you're going to get me into trouble with the wife with all these unexplained boxes showing up :p
[22:21] <gamerchick02> i just saw that and was about to share in here.
[22:21] <gamerchick02> heh
[23:50] <greg-g> :)
[23:52] <greg-g> snap-l: rick_h_ brousch _stink_ ColonelPanic001 gamerchick02 jjesse widox Wolfger: ya'll gonna be able to make the IRC meeting in about 10 minutes?
[23:52] <greg-g> I need to get better about sending out email reminders :/
[23:52] <gamerchick02> an irc meeting tonight? i guess since i'm here, sure.
[23:52] <gamerchick02> i've never been to one. hah. i'm always gone somewhere.
[23:52] <snap-l> i can sorta meet
[23:53] <greg-g> :)
[23:57] <_stink_> greg-g: on and off, yeah
[23:59] <greg-g> cool


[01:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:52] <wez> Afternoon
[03:56] <JerOfPanic> morning all *
[07:57] <zoknert> hi
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> https://9to5linux.com/ventoy-1-0-80-adds-secondary-boot-menu-now-supports-more-than-1000-isos
[15:48] <enigma9o7[m]> I like Ventoy.
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> same here
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> feels a bit like that multiboot but better
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Forum too is down:  ping -c3 ubuntuforums.org >> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2025ms :(
[21:21] <arraybolt3> Bashing-om: ubuntu.com, Launchpad, forums, Snapcraft... I wonder if someone spilled coffee on the wrong motherboard or something.
[21:22] <ravage> i hope that is not all on one host system :)
[21:22] <sarnold> lol
[21:22] <Bashing-om> arraybolt3: launchpad - answers too - for that list :(
[21:22] <enigma9o7[m]> I blame the autumnul equinox.
[21:23] <sarnold> yeah, it's *far* from one machine :) I dunno how many are in which datacenters, but hundreds to thousands of machines wouldn't shock me
[21:23] <sarnold> one of the firewalls is sad, and the other one that was supposed to failover for it seems unhappy too
[21:24] <arraybolt3> https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/12/who_me/
[21:25] <ogra> ravage, it's a single Raspberry Pi and a 30TB USB disk 😛
[21:25] <ravage> wow! :D
[21:25] <sarnold> arraybolt3: ow :)
[21:25] <sarnold> ogra: pfffff spill all the secrets why don't you
[21:25] <ravage> in other unrelated and annoying news: i fixed the PXE install of windows server 2022. i feel dirty and need a shower now
[21:26] <ogra> sarnold, we're among friends, arent we ? 🙂
[21:27] <sarnold> ogra: well, true true :)
[21:44] <ravage> ogra, when can we expect the podcast episode about snaps on Christians podcast? he wanted to talk to you about it :D
[21:45] <ogra> oh ?
[21:45]  * ogra must have missed that
[21:46] <ravage> or Isaac just forgot to tell you ;)
[21:46] <ogra> hmm
[21:47] <ogra> Christian should perhaps just contact me directly<EMAIL_ADDRESS>😉
[21:47] <ravage> i dont know him that well. stankowic_devel is his twitter
[21:49] <ogra> https://status.canonical.com/
[21:49] <ogra> whee !
[21:49] <ravage> it was just a little chat after his talk an your name came up :D
[21:49] <ogra> looks much better
[21:51] <ravage> ( for the rest of the room that understands german: https://cstan.io/?p=13062 )
[21:53] <ogra> wow ... flatpak only exists since 2016 ... there is wrong info on the table
[21:54] <ogra> (there was a personal xdg-apps project before though, that was renamed by fedora to flatpak)