[03:40] <n8tuserf> Nith-> this is not the place for it, visit #c perhaps on how to code  raw packets or sockets
[03:40] <musikgoat|main> Keal: either version of ubuntu's OS is going to be troublesome for certain motherboards,  its all dependent on the motherboard... sometimes BIOS updates fix those troubles
[03:40] <sprinkmeier> Frijolie, ARGH... space in the label?
[03:40] <Nith> n8tuserf: thanks
[03:41] <Nith> sprinkmeier: thanks
[03:41] <Frijolie> sprinkmeier, yes, I guess Windblows thinks it's ok for a space, Linux doesn't
[03:41] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: see usbmon, kernel
[03:41] <Droopsta915> samd:Yes, I like gnome, i'll stick to it. What about edubuntu? I want to install Linux on my 7 year old's laptop, anyone ever try Edubuntu?
[03:42] <O__o> Droopsta915, try xubuntu
[03:42] <samd> Droopsta915, edubuntu should be the same as ubuntu but with educational software preinstalled
[03:42] <O__o> Droopsta915, personally i think xubuntu's interface is nicer than kubuntu or ubuntu
[03:42] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/usb/usbmon.txt;h=270481906dc80d1b25a0c29f607ef55e83ae16be;hb=HEAD
[03:42] <sprinkmeier> Frijolie, sounds like someone wrote a udev hook script or something and forgot to escape spaces.
[03:42] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, 7 years old? try Xubuntu, lightest window manager. edubuntu uses gnome which might be too heavy for a 7yo
[03:42] <Frijolie> 0__o, he said 7-year-old's laptop, not my 7-year-old laptop
[03:42] <samd> Droopsta915, havnt tried myself, but looks good for a small kid
[03:43] <Frijolie> sprinkmeier: or something...
[03:43] <Keal> musikgoat|main if i had known that last saturday i wouldn't have wasted everyone in winehq's time with inquiries about what is bugs and what isn't nor wasted everyone in ubuntu's time on reverting due to a glitch that apparently is a kernel/mobo issue not a software version issue
[03:43] <Keal> :< vsorry
[03:43] <Nith> IntuitiveNipple: this is perfect!
[03:43] <Nith> IntuitiveNipple: thanks :)
[03:43] <musikgoat|main> Keal: yeah but did you learn things?
[03:43] <Keal> yes i did
[03:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Nith: you're welcome
[03:43] <O__o> keal, wht are u trying to run with wine? which game?
[03:44] <Droopsta915> He gets his way around Windows XP pretty good, but I want to start him early on Linux :)
[03:44] <Keal> musikgoat|main and man_in_shack must be about ready to order a hit on me by now >.<
[03:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: i'm just guessing by the way,  i could be wrong,  but most suspend/sleep issues are due to that kind of trouble...
[03:44] <Frijolie> Droopsta915: hat's off to ya
[03:44] <Keal> btw xchat is horrible, this is why i wanted to use mirc under wine
[03:45] <samd> Dropsta915, yeah, if he starts with linux now, with kids curiosity , imagine him in a few years xD
[03:45] <O__o> xchat is better than mirc
[03:45] <Frijolie> Keal, I'm on XChat right now. I dig it
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> Keal: you'll learn that most windows apps in wine are not as good as the linux versions,  they will just take some getting used to
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> !better
[03:45] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, I started my kids on linux, with dual-boot XP for the tonka games. Now they're familiar/comfortable with both.
[03:45] <Droopsta915> So from what I see, instead of using Edubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu, I can stick with Ubuntu and get the educational software Edubuntu has and install it in Ubuntu?
[03:46] <Keal> xchat simply doesn't suit my needs, when i claim it is horrible, i mean xchat is horrible at suiting my personal needs and interests
[03:46] <sprinkmeier> Droopsta915, yes.
[03:46] <O__o> Keal, what is your need?
[03:46] <samd> Droopsta915, yep, thats right
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> heh, there you go...  have you tried pidgin?
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> its got some irc plugins that make it pretty useful
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: correct
[03:46] <Keal> Keal first off i need a dynamic scripting system inline that can be manipulated in real time that is lowlevel within the applet itself
[03:47] <Keal> sorry chat program not applet
[03:47] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: you can also have them all in the ame install
[03:47] <sebsebseb> in the same install
[03:47] <lstarnes> musikgoat|main: pidgin has incomplete irc support compared to most other irc clients
[03:47] <Keal> also tcl, perl, and whatever the other one were, do not fit this description
[03:47] <XtrHotMarSpy> sprinkmeier, if you can use one gui, you can use them all.
[03:47] <cdenny> i have 500gb, should i have partition os/apps and one for data?
[03:47] <cdenny> or just all one partition
[03:47] <Droopsta915> Cool, I guess i'll mess with the others in VBox just to see whats up. Thanks everyone, have a good night. And if you have kids, why not let'em get into theLinux world while they are young. :)
[03:48] <Keal> mirc has pretty reliable DWIM built in for example
[03:48] <samd> Droopsta915, ight, g'night, have fun!!
[03:48] <O__o> Keal, i dont know, i only uses xchat to just chat
[03:48] <sebsebseb> Droopsta915: Edubuntu is for schools, don't bother with it for a home computer,  just install the two suites and what not and Tuxpaint :)  in a standard Ubuntu install
[03:48] <Frijolie> cdenny, I make custom partitions
[03:48] <Keal> i used mirc for more than just chat
[03:48] <cdenny> Frijolie after install?
[03:48] <Guest43383> i use Opera for everything
[03:48] <cdenny> Frijolie or during?
[03:49] <Keal> thus why i find xchat so repulsive, all it is is a chat program
[03:49] <Frijolie> cdenny, oh, already after install
[03:49] <O__o> Keal, what do u do in irc??
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> lstarnes: yeah, true
[03:49] <Jeruvy> cdenny: its a good idea to break /home out for easy backups, additionally any other partitions that may have specific backup needs.
[03:49] <Frijolie> cdenny, no, I was referring to during install
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> O__o: heards botnets :-P
[03:49] <Keal> my personal scripts for mirc of which i wrote entirely myself are 90% the added functionality to mirc
[03:49] <cdenny> im assuming it gives me an option during install?
[03:49] <Guest43383> I use bitlbee IM to connect to all my jabber accounts
[03:49] <XtrHotMarSpy> saying "my kid can use linux and windows and mac" is the same as saying "my kid can drive a ford, a toyota, or a kia"
[03:50] <Frijolie> cdenny, do you have an Ubuntu install currently? or are you adding a 2nd HDD to an existing Ubuntu OS?
[03:50] <Guest43383> may be that is the reason Microsoft took over Lindows
[03:50] <XtrHotMarSpy> Keal, you can write all the scripts you want for xchat, and you don't have to use some arcane scripting language.
[03:50] <cdenny> Frijolie im using windows server 2008, and just finished burning ubuntu iso.  going to install in a couple of mins
[03:50] <O__o> XtrHotMarSpy, i think it is more like driving an automatic, stick, and semi-automatic race car
[03:50] <Keal> and making a foss clone of mirc is just plain unethical due to 50% of the yearly registration fees for mirc going towards disaster relief etc
[03:50] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: really?  i'd think of it more as a semi, automatic and manual  respectively
[03:51] <cdenny> no!!!
[03:51] <cdenny> crap
[03:51] <cdenny> not cool
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> O__o: lol
[03:51] <XtrHotMarSpy> that was a fun netsplit
[03:51] <sebsebseb> now that was a good net split
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> theres been a few so far tonight
[03:51] <cdenny> so how do i separate /home from everything else?
[03:51] <cdenny> what is /home?
[03:51] <O__o> we should do this more often
[03:51] <cdenny> lmao
[03:51] <sebsebseb> !home
[03:51] <Keal> ok these splits are getting annoying
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> !netsplit
[03:52] <Keal> why doesn't the admins force reroute everyone onto the servers that aren't splitting?
[03:52] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, how do you figure? what's the difference between one gui interface and another? none that i can see.
[03:52] <XtrHotMarSpy> i had no learning curve going to other OSs that had guis
[03:52] <Jeruvy> Keal: you should ask in #freenode, not here
[03:52] <felixsulla> For a VirtualBox machine, does anyone know the difference between .vdi and .sav?
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: i guess i just don't equate the OS with the gui
[03:52] <sprinkmeier> XtrHotMarSpy, the trickisn't learning multiple OSs, the trick is learning learning that multiple OS's isn't difficult (something most people who grew up with only one OS can't seem to do)
[03:52] <sebsebseb> XtrHotMarSpy: same here prety much,  well there is a tiny learning curve when it comes to installing programs
[03:53] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, yeah, and neither do people using a gui
[03:53] <lstarnes> Keal: there's no way to do that in the irc protocol for users who are already connectesd
[03:53] <sebsebseb> XtrHotMarSpy: ,but I just installed Fedora Core 2 after using WIndows all my life
[03:53] <lstarnes> *connected
[03:53] <cdenny> will it be pretty explanatory when installing ubuntu to separate /home?
[03:53] <musikgoat|main> XtrHotMarSpy: true
[03:53] <XtrHotMarSpy> musikgoat|main, it makes no difference to them what the OS is
[03:53] <SeViLLa> sprinkmeier: well said!!
[03:53] <shippo> quit
[03:53] <sebsebseb> cdenny: it's easier to do seperate home partitions on a clean install
[03:53] <cdenny> ok
[03:53] <sprinkmeier> SeViLLa, if slightly dyslexic...
[03:53] <O__o> cdenny, home is just a dir
[03:53] <cdenny> ok
[03:54] <cdenny> i will see if i can figure it out when i install
[03:54] <casdf> hi, is there a way to set the desktop wallpaper from the command line?
[03:54] <sebsebseb> !home
[03:54] <O__o> cdenny, /home = c:\Documents and Settings\
[03:55] <O__o> except /home can be in a new partition
[03:56] <musikgoat|main> this may be a common question, but anyone know how the usb support is, in vbox?
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> is it pretty decent for a x64 ubuntu host and xp or win-7 client?
[03:57] <Chaorain> I have an Nvidia 8700M X2 which proprietary driver do I use? 173 or 177?
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> Chaorain: try the 177
[03:58] <Chaorain> musikgoat|main, ty
[03:58] <XtrHotMarSpy> !grep
[03:58] <supertanker> On my server, my CLI screen is filled with lines of "Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason {3d|2d} on CPU 0. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue."
[03:58] <supertanker> I can't type anything without it getting overwritten
[03:59] <meanburrito920_> can anyone help me debug a /very/ simple 2d collision detection method (in python)? I know I'm missing something really obvious
[03:59] <Jeruvy> meanburrito920_: try #python
[03:59] <XtrHotMarSpy> !vi
[03:59] <XtrHotMarSpy> !man
[03:59] <meanburrito920_> Jeruvy: i did, no one responded. :(
[03:59] <hmw> meanburrito920_ pastebin the relevant code
[03:59] <samd> !code
[04:00] <Jeruvy> XtrHotMarSpy: please play with ubottu in #ubuntu-bots
[04:00] <musikgoat|main> Chaorain: nvidia has specific hardware support on their site corresponding to the driver release, but (at least for 8 series) the later the release the better
[04:00] <XtrHotMarSpy> ok
[04:00] <meanburrito920_> http://pastebin.com/m7540d445
[04:00] <meanburrito920_> theres the code
[04:00] <Keal> musikgoat|main i have a package arriving tomorrow, it is a replacement ac adapter, that way unbuntu will stop going into level 4 power save :|
[04:00] <Keal> :D
[04:01] <musikgoat|main> Keal: laptop? whats the manufacturer?
[04:01] <Keal> compaq presario r4025us, ubuntu works like crap on it
[04:01] <Keal> it is a rare laptop model
[04:01] <Chaorain> musikgoat|main, ty
[04:01] <Keal> ubuntu didn't work at all until 8.10
[04:01] <Keal> i am using the amd64 8.10
[04:01] <hmw> meanburrito920_ I don't know Python, but it might be a problem with operator priorities. Look up, if OR is higher than greater/less than. Try encapsulate it with ( and )
[04:01] <mikeshollen> I'm trying to do the Ubuntu Security update but I keep getting this error message, why?     W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/ffmpeg/libpostproc1d_0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7.2_i386.deb
[04:01] <mikeshollen>   Size mismatch
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: sudo apt-get update?
[04:02] <hmw> meanburrito920_ http://pastebin.com/m73239be3
[04:02] <musikgoat|main> have you done that since the error?
[04:03] <Keal> musikgoat|main one reason ubuntu is acting so cracked out is it keeps coming back from level 4 power save :/
[04:03] <cdenny> should i use ahci or ide when installing ubuntun
[04:03] <meanburrito920_> hmw: no such luck
[04:04] <Keal> i plan to replace the battery as well next month
[04:04] <cdenny> ahci or ide?
[04:04] <Keal> the battery and ac adaper are roughly 5 years old
[04:04] <sprockets2000> anyone know of a reliable way to find out your displays refresh rate not in docuentation of notebook nor on website
[04:04] <musikgoat|main> keal, yeah, and the bios of the motherboard talks to ubuntu to do that, but hp doesn't even offer a bios update for that mobo
[04:04] <cdenny> please, i have like 10 seconds
[04:04] <mikeshollen> sudo apt-get update worked, why?
[04:05] <cdenny> ok ahci it is, i will install then be back after its working
[04:05] <cdenny> goodbye
[04:05] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: your repo indexes were a bit old
[04:05] <Keal> musikgoat|main that is because there is no bios update for it as far as i know and never was
[04:05] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: something got updated in the online versions since you last got the indexes
[04:05] <mikeshollen> gotcha, thank you sir
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> mikeshollen: if you are using synaptic, the refresh button does the same thing
[04:06] <Keal> musikgoat|main the only update was an amd64 pseudo-driver
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> Keal: and your cd-rom firmware
[04:06] <musikgoat|main> Keal: as the website seems to say at least
[04:07] <Keal> never saw on the hp site about a cdrom firmware
[04:08] <Keal> my laptop used to be a display model btw, so possibly all firmwares were already updated by the time i obtained the machine
[04:08] <supertanker> On my server, my CLI screen is filled with lines of "Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason {3d|2d} on CPU 0. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue."
[04:08] <supertanker> I can't type anything without it getting overwritten
[04:09] <Keal> when i obtained this laptop it was already a discontinued product
[04:09] <LogicFan> is it ok to use jaunty repos with intrepid to install software that doesn't have debs for intrepid?
[04:09] <casdf> how do you set wallpapers in ubuntu. sys/prefs/appearances isnt updating the desktop
[04:09] <Keal> and i got it mint as a display model
[04:09] <LogicFan> i'm just wondering why some software would be available in the jaunty repos and not intrepid
[04:09] <Keal> often i buy the display model for a steep discount when a product is discontinued
[04:10] <Jeruvy> supertanker: try this for info..: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424927
[04:10] <casdf> these are just really annoying bugs that are screwing up new user experience...
[04:10] <Keal> this is the second time the display model was the last of the product left in inventory when i purchased such
[04:10] <Bi_bRo_pklg> hi
[04:10] <KD7SPO-rod> www.ubuntu.com
[04:10] <supertanker> Jeruvy, thanks
[04:10] <LogicFan> casdf, right-click on the desktop and select "change background...
[04:11] <IntuitiveNipple> sprockets2000: If the monitor supports EDID you can use read-edid
[04:11] <casdf> logicfan: yeah its not actually changing when i doubleclick on anything
[04:12] <LogicFan> casdf, just selecting one of the images should auto-change it
[04:12] <LogicFan> are you clicking add, then selecting the graphic?
[04:12] <dotblank> Anyone good with dun over bluetooth
[04:12] <casdf> logicfan: yes yes done all that
[04:12] <casdf> logicfan: nothings changing the background
[04:13] <Jeruvy> casdf: sounds like a x issue, if you restart x, does it appear?
[04:13] <supertanker> Jeruvy, that report is just of others having the same problem. No actual helpful information there
[04:13] <casdf> i can still change the solid color
[04:13] <Jeruvy> supertanker: hmm, there are bugs logged on launchpad too, you could see if there is any update
[04:13] <ltsmooth42> is there any way to read ext4 from 8.10 yet?
[04:14] <supertanker> Jeruvy, this is an older system, I'm probably going to take the entire rig out of this case and put in my P4 mobo and gear. I was just curious if there was any quick fix
[04:14] <musikgoat|main> ltsmooth42: last i heard, its only backported to the .28 kernel, which isn't going to be used in 8.10
[04:14] <ltsmooth42> alright
[04:14] <musikgoat|main> ltsmooth42: i haven't checked though
[04:15] <fearful> good night ubuntu people.
[04:15] <musikgoat|main> lately
[04:15] <LogicFan> is it possible to add jaunty repos to an intrepid installation and install jaunty debs?
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> LogicFan: thats not advisable, its going to cause all sorts of issues
[04:16] <crdlb> LogicFan: no
[04:16] <LogicFan> thanks
[04:16] <Jeruvy> supertanker: from launchpad: Running 2.6.27-10-generic (in intrepid-proposed) seems to have stopped the error.
[04:16] <musikgoat|main> LogicFan: but you can run jaunty alpha ;-)
[04:16] <Keal> bt musikgoat|main i may potentially become ubuntu's sole bugtester of thiis mobo with advanced micro designs reverse compatible quad-core athlon64 that fits in the same socket supposedly due to come out by mid december
[04:17] <LogicFan> what's are the best practices for installing software that doesn't have intrepid debs, but does have jaunty debs?
[04:17] <casdf> jeruvy: i restarted x, but its still only displaying the background solid color...
[04:17] <Bearcat> hey folks, i'm losing my mind. I'm trying to get a pixmap gtk2 theme working and i can't get any apps to use it. I've coped the theme to /usr/share/themes and the gtkrc file to ~/  What else would i have to do. (note, i'm not using gnome, i just want some matching gtk apps in kde)
[04:17] <musikgoat|main> Keal: get familiar with launchpad.net then :-P
[04:17] <ruel> can I know what IRC clients you people are using?
[04:18] <ruel> in ubuntu ofc
[04:18] <supertanker> ruel, X-Chat/IRSSI
[04:18] <LogicFan> xchat
[04:18] <crdlb> Bearcat: that's not how you do it
[04:18] <ruel> k kewl thanls
[04:18] <Keal> so musikgoat|main that gives you guys 9 months to help me get to know ubuntu inside-and-out like the back of my hand in order to properly and adequately bugtest this mobo with the new cpu coming out
[04:18] <ruel> thanks*
[04:18] <Bearcat> crdlb: oh? Teach me oh wise one :")
[04:18] <crdlb> Bearcat: first of all, I believe kde has support for setting the gtk theme
[04:18] <supertanker> Is there any way to at least stop console messages from flooding out my CLI screen?
[04:18] <musikgoat|main> Keal: you will get far by reading some of the many ubuntu guides out there for various common things
[04:19] <Keal> musikgoat|main by next month i will have hopefully learned like the back of my hand how to properly service this laptop
[04:19] <crdlb> Bearcat: if it doesn't, you can use switch2 from the gtk-theme-switch package, which writes gtk-theme-name to ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[04:19] <Bearcat> crdlb: well the idea is that soon i will be using neither kde or gnome.
[04:19] <Bearcat> crdlb: ahh
[04:19] <crdlb> also, you can put themes in ~/.themes/ instead of doing it systemwide
[04:20] <yeason> the problem I have seems to be very common yet none of the fixes I've found so far work. My networking suddenly stopped working on my computer
[04:20] <Bearcat> crdlb: right, but i'd rather it were system wide
[04:20] <dotblank> Wondering if any treo users have gotten the pone to sync over bluetooth
[04:20] <dotblank> http://howto.pilot-link.org/bluesync/index.html
[04:20] <Bearcat> crdlb: thanks. I'll try that
[04:20] <oscar> what is the best tool for connecting doing a remote desktop to a ubuntu machine
[04:20] <Keal> right now this laptop has an after-market keyboard that is inferior to the factory keyboard that the warranty repair center did an unauthorized unneccarry replacement on
[04:20] <yeason> Does anybody know of any fixes? I've tried stopping networkmanager, editing resolv.conf, running dhclient just times out
[04:21] <Keal> i plan to swap out the keyboard with the factory one later on
[04:21] <Jeruvy> !rdp | oscar
[04:21] <Keal> because the after market one has serious design flaws
[04:21] <Keal> for example the sensors aren't sensitive enough and the bus speed is too slow
[04:22] <Keal> the factory keyboard didn't have those two isues
[04:22] <Jeruvy> oscar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-remote-desktop-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[04:22] <gbear14275> I just saw something really new... in shell was coming out of an su session when I saw: exit [new line] you have mail in /var/mail/username... what is that?  and now after googling some... how do i read it
[04:23] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: you can create a mbox account 'user@machine' to check and read local mail
[04:23] <sunniq> hello... good morning...
[04:23] <Keal> musikgoat|main i won't be able to let you remote my laptop until after my package arrives in the mail tomorrow
[04:23] <sunniq> anybody home?
[04:23] <WhyWontThisWork> Hey, so I'm trying to install ubuntu but the migration assistant in 8.10 fails (ubiquity crashes) any ideas to get this to work?
[04:23] <Keal> otherwise it will be too unstable
[04:23] <musikgoat|main> keal, i'm not remoting into your desktop
[04:23] <oscar> thanks.
[04:23] <Keal> then ?
[04:23] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: may be harddisk is full
[04:24] <WhyWontThisWork> its got 10 gigs for home and 13 for the main system
[04:24] <Keal> what was that remote desktop link then?
[04:24] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 its got 10 gigs for home and 13 for the main system
[04:24] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: The 'best practice' is to back-port the package
[04:24] <musikgoat|main> Keal: i was giving instructions to someone else about accessing his two ubuntu machines
[04:24] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: if you are trying different distros there is a possibility of having lot of files without your knowledge
[04:24] <Keal> oh ok sorry
[04:25] <Guest43383> WhyWontThisWork: it is my experience
[04:25] <musikgoat|main> Keal: heh, no, i'm not a fan of giving help that way, most people learn by doing
[04:25] <LogicFan> IntuitiveNipple, thanks, i'm reading that now.  is that something easy to accomplish?  or, i imagine it depends on the app in question?
[04:25] <mimiloon> hi everybody, can anybody help me please? i have an issue with my sound card (HDA Intel) and that is i an hear the sound from the speakers and the headphone but when i plug in the headphones, i can still hear from the main speakers. i'm using ubuntu 8.1
[04:25] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 so how much does this need for a clean install and how do I shut the migration assistant
[04:25] <Keal> i thoght you meant you were asking if you could take a peek directly at my hardware etc :/
[04:25] <Keal> for diagnostics for your own use
[04:26] <Bearcat> crdlb: what would the manual option be? i dont have gtk-theme-switch avail.
[04:26] <musikgoat|main> Keal: nope
[04:26] <Keal> ok nm ^-^''
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: Yeah... generally, if you've not done debian packaging before, it is a steep and slippery learning curve :)
[04:26] <cthompson__> how do I install a deb via terminal?
[04:26] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: What's the package?
[04:26] <gbear14275> Jeruvy: is this something setup by default... I don't recall thinking we had and mbox mail setup...
[04:26]  * crink using ext4 \0/
[04:26] <LogicFan> Calibre ebook manager/reader
[04:26] <crdlb> Bearcat: you don't have a gtk-theme-switch package in the repos?
[04:27] <musikgoat|main> cthompson_dpkg -i app   but it could be in a repo
[04:27] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: if you installed sendmail or postfix then you can
[04:27] <Jeruvy> gbear14275: otherwise I'm not sure how you'd do it.
[04:27] <Bearcat> crdlb: i'm not a ubuntu user, i'm using sourcemage
[04:28] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: might be able to do it easily. worth a go :)
[04:28] <meglo> How come I can't access a VNC server with tsclient or vinagre? Vinagre is too simple and wont let me specify a password for the VNC server, but tsclient will only let me input a username(but there is no username for the server).
[04:28] <crdlb> Bearcat: don't they have a channel? :/
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: they do but...
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: finally someone who uses gtk stuff :")
[04:28] <WhyWontThisWork> guest43383 so how much does this need for a clean install and how do I shut the migration assistant
[04:28] <Bearcat> crdlb: i think i just figured it out
[04:28] <crdlb> Bearcat: #gtk+ on irc.gnome.org
[04:28] <musikgoat|main> meglo: vinagre only requests a password if the vnc server requires it
[04:29] <ShinyHat> i am having trouble with update manager- very slow, but when pinging to find the best repository it freezes
[04:29] <musikgoat|main> meglo: what are you trying to control?
[04:29] <Bearcat> crdlb: thanks. I'll check there next. I appreciate the help
[04:29] <LogicFan> IntuitiveNipple, thanks, i'll read a little more to see if i'm up to the challenge :)
[04:29] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I'm trying to vnc into my friend's window machine to try it out.
[04:29] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I'm not sure what server software he is using.
[04:30] <gbear14275> niether of those... we are using exim i think
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> meglo: on windows, install tightvnc service, it works with any vnc client, like vinagre
[04:30] <mimiloon> can anybody help me please? i have an issue with my sound card (HDA Intel) and that is i an hear the sound from the speakers and the headphone but when i plug in the headphones, i can still hear from the main speakers. i'm using ubuntu 8.1
[04:30] <Keal> musikgoat|main it vnc compatible with vpn?
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> meglo: seems like the vnc server, if any is on that windows computer (they are not in there by default)
[04:30] <meglo> musikgoat|main, i can ask him to do that. But he claims he turned off the password requirement(I know) and the same error still occurs "Connection to host 'hisserver' was closed."
[04:30] <musikgoat|main> is funky
[04:31] <IntuitiveNipple> LogicFan: I'm trying it now
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> meglo: vnc is not secure traffic, and it can be run over vpn
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, well ok, I'll talk to him about it.
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> sorry, keal ^^
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, yes I know, but he/they don't really care and it isn't my problem.
[04:31] <meglo> musikgoat|main, sshd is 'too hard' for them :\
[04:31] <musikgoat|main> meglo: he may have for windows remote desktop, which is not vnc (vinagre) compatible
[04:32] <meglo> musikgoat|main, yes I'll see if they'll go for rdp
[04:32] <musikgoat|main> meglo: tsclient is, but every windows computer has a username, even if the user doesn't know it
[04:32] <ruel> any body got an idea of an open source application to write?
[04:32] <musikgoat|main> check in c:/documents and settings/ or c:/users
[04:32] <ShinyHat> anyone feel like helping me? i am having trouble with update manager- very slow, but when pinging to find the best repository it freezes
[04:32] <ruel> %USERPROFILE%
[04:32] <mercutio22> I am having a very weird problem I can't input accents in a few applications, like texmaker and kile. I can in openoffice.org and gedit for instance. Does anyone have a clue what might be happening?
[04:33] <oscar> ruel: are you looking for a text editor or something more full featured
[04:33] <meglo> musikgoat|main, I think there is a miscommunication here, I don't control the box I'm trying to vnc into.
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: pick on close, where are you?
[04:33] <oscar> nevermind
[04:33] <ShinyHat> NW washington
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> meglo: i was referring to your friend
[04:33] <Keal> musikgoat|main for some reason my router had the same username as my computer :/
[04:33] <ruel> xD
[04:33] <ruel> ShinyHat: are you in a shared connection?
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: find a university or something in the list thats close
[04:33] <meglo> musikgoat|main, oh sorry.
[04:33] <musikgoat|main> meglo: no worries
[04:34] <cyberjorge> hi
[04:34] <Socrates> Hello, I recently installed 8.10 using the CD. Previously I had 8.04 installed. During the installation I used the total format option. I did not select any partitions. Yet when I use the program called 'GParted" it says that I have /dev/sda1 ext 3, /dev/sda2/extended and /dev/sda5 linux-swap. What are the latter two (i.e. sda2 &sda5)?
[04:34] <musikgoat|main> meglo: i wasn't clear
[04:34] <Socrates> Do sda2 and sda5 contain anything of mine on them?
[04:34] <ShinyHat> ruel: not shared to a point that would make a difference
[04:35] <musikgoat|main> !swap | socrates
[04:35] <ruel> ShinyHat: well, I suggest try other repos.. :)
[04:35] <cyberjorge> i have a pos software that has a lock emblem, how do i make it accessible not only via root?
[04:35] <Keal> Socrates swap has nothing important in it but should be retained as swap
[04:35] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: im on mit right now
[04:35] <Anna_111>  Socrates, /dev/sda2/extended is your logical partition of your hdd
[04:35] <Socrates> What about sda2 extended
[04:35] <Socrates> What does it do?
[04:35] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: yeah thats across the US
[04:36] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: its ranging between 1k and 100k
[04:36] <Anna_111>  tha partitions are for / home and linux-swap
[04:36] <musikgoat|main> Socrates: that is just a logical extension to the partition system, i don't know why they do it that way but it doesn't have any of your system data on it
[04:36] <Rosalia> necesito registrarme para jugar en tragaperras
[04:36] <ruel> Socrates: maybe that's a boot partition, I used to have a separate partition for boot when installing dfferent distros
[04:36] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: when i tell it to find the best source, it freezes while pinging- what is that about?
[04:36] <Rosalia> como hago ahora?
[04:36] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: check for canadian locations as well there might be one with less hops to get to your home
[04:37] <Socrates> Could it be something left over from 8.04?? How would I find out?
[04:37] <musikgoat|main> ShinyHat: my guess is that its trying to hit something, not getting a response it desires and choking, but i don't know for sure.
[04:37] <Keal> ShinyHat do you live in quebec?
[04:37] <r33tfux0r> Good Evening all
[04:38] <XtrHotMarSpy> poutine!
[04:38] <ShinyHat> Keal: no, NW washington
[04:38] <ruel> Socrates: did you used the whole disk while installing 8.10?
[04:38] <jtaji> Socrates: no, it's just a container for logical partitions, ignore it
[04:38] <Guest43383> musikgoat|main:  does that mean we create an exclusive partition to boot ?
[04:38] <sebsebseb>
[04:38] <sdasdas> Hi, id like to make a video with some pics and some music, what program could i use?
[04:39] <Guest43383> I am having trouble with multiple linux distros overtaking each other in grub loader
[04:39] <skyl> how can I give apache write access to a certain dir?
[04:39] <Socrates> Okay, thanks jtaji. I have no idea what a logical partition is but I'll forget about it. Although it is 1.25GB. Is that normal? My total drive is about 80GB.
[04:39] <XtrHotMarSpy> skyl, set the permissions to 777
[04:39] <musikgoat|main> Guest43383: i'm not quite sure of the default partition layout for a deskotp, but i think /boot is included in the root file system
[04:40] <skyl> XtrHotMarSpy that seems a little extreme
[04:40] <mercutio22> ??
[04:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> skyl, well it works
[04:40] <skyl> XtrHotMarSpy indeed
[04:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> chmod 777
[04:40] <musikgoat|main> Guest43383: but grub, the boot loader is likely written to the mbr
[04:40] <jtaji> Socrates: it contians the sda5, which is your swap, it is 1.25GB
[04:40] <ruel> skyl: changing its permission to 777 is risky
[04:40] <mercutio22> can it be some problem with my locale settings?
[04:41] <ruel> skyl: try using chown
[04:41] <Socrates> Oh, so sda2 contains sda5?
[04:41] <musikgoat|main> Socrates: thats the best way to think about it
[04:41] <ShinyHat> musikgoat|main: thanks for the tips, i'll try manually choosing something more local :)
[04:41] <Socrates> Cool.
[04:41] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, yeah but that's why we all run linux. if we get compromised, we just reinstall
[04:41] <Keal> my swap is 60gb
[04:41] <musikgoat|main> keal thats way too much
[04:41] <Keal> not really
[04:42] <cjae> Hi, my g/f and I are trying to use klavero typing tutor and it has been set to the wrong language and was wondering if someone here could help set it back
[04:42] <Socrates> Thank you for the very useful advice!
[04:42] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: that's a bad idea you got there :
[04:42] <ruel> :(
[04:42] <Keal> swap partitions get damaged over time
[04:42] <cjae> klavaro
[04:42] <Keal> and i plan to use this swap partition for as long as the harddrive lasts
[04:42] <ruel> !chown | skyl
[04:42] <ruel> ofuck
[04:43] <Keal> 60gb leaves a lot of sectors to be marked bad before the parition is no longer useable
[04:43] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, celebrating st. patrick's day?
[04:43] <ruel> skyl: http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/chown/
[04:43] <__mikem> !ohmy | ruel
[04:43] <cjae> jazyk is an example of the language
[04:43] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: who's he
[04:43] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: That is nonsense! Swap partitions don't 'get damaged' as you suggest! The underlying disk might have bad sectors but if so it'll remap them without you knowing a thing about it
[04:43] <Keal> yes and 60gb of space leaves a lot of room for remapping
[04:44] <ruel> __mikem sorry :(
[04:44] <Keal> i burn hdd's until they die
[04:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: or you buy cheap flash ram and store swap on that
[04:44] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: The remapping is done at the disk hardware/firmware level, it never gets seen by the operating system
[04:44] <XtrHotMarSpy> he's the patron saint of freespace, ruel
[04:44] <__mikem> ruel, nobody is perfect :)
[04:44] <Keal> i've gone though over 35 or more hdds in the past 20 years
[04:44] <Keal> just for my personal machine
[04:44] <musikgoat|main> Keal: thats pretty normal though
[04:44] <ruel> __mikem: well, I used to be on "not so polite" irc servers so xD
[04:45] <cjae> I think its czech
[04:45] <musikgoat|main> for that amount of time
[04:45] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: sorry didn't know him xD
[04:45] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel, that's why you don't have any freespace
[04:46] <ruel> XtrHotMarSpy: ummm.. what's your point? xD
[04:46] <XtrHotMarSpy> ruel,  just answering your questions
[04:46] <durt> anyone here familiar with tvtime tell me why I'm getting ascii garbage showing up on my screen?
[04:46] <ruel> now I'm confused :(
[04:46] <mylisto> hey everyone...
[04:47] <mylisto> Does anyone know of any good desktop recorder (voice/video)?
[04:47] <ruel> durt: try using restricted drivers
[04:47] <Socrates> How would you find out if you had more than one primary partition? Would it come up in a program like Gparted?
[04:47] <XtrHotMarSpy> mylisto, sony makes a whole bunch
[04:47] <durt> ruel,  I do have 180.37 installed, it's with tvtime
[04:47] <mylisto> meant software based xtrhotmarspy:
[04:47] <mylisto> for ubuntu
[04:47] <supertanker> How does that Ubuntu Server motd work where it shows the system resources at login time?
[04:47] <jtaji> Socrates: 1 through 4 will be primary, 5 and up are logical
[04:48] <oscar> how do i set ubuntu to auto log in
[04:48] <ruel> oscar: I'm pretty sure its within the installation
[04:48] <Socrates> Oh, so sda1 and sda2 are primary. Could there be another one, a boot one, which is not coming up in Gparted?
[04:48] <binarymutant1> supertanker: try /etc/issues
[04:48] <XtrHotMarSpy> oscar, reinstall and check the auto log in box when you create your username
[04:49] <jtaji> Socrates: the default ubuntu install just has one partition for /, and one for swap, which is what you have
[04:49] <ruel> Socrates: all partitions are being shown in Gparted
[04:49] <oscar> really i have to re-install
[04:49] <aoalinux> oscar
[04:49] <oscar> i saw it but didnt think i would need it
[04:49] <ruel> oscar: well, not really.. ummm w8 a sec
[04:49] <jtaji> Socrates: but yeah you can check in gparted
[04:49] <oscar> cool thanks
[04:49] <aoalinux> no you dont hang on and ill tell you how
[04:49] <oscar> thanks
[04:49] <binarymutant1> supertanker: and /etc/motd
[04:49] <supertanker> binarydigit, thanks
[04:49] <Socrates> Good, so there is nothing more to my computer than sda1, sda2, and sda5
[04:49] <ruel> oscar: http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-automati-logon-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html
[04:50] <oscar> sweet thanks.
[04:50] <ruel> np
[04:50] <aoalinux> Hey everyone, I am new here.   When I use the update manager in Ubuntu 8.10, it fails to update because it says it fails to fetch (URL) and says no public key.  What can I do about this?  Thanks
[04:50] <XtrHotMarSpy> aoalinux, connect to the internet
[04:51] <aoalinux> yes sir I am
[04:51] <aoalinux> it is able to do partial updates
[04:51] <mylisto> anyone use recordmydesktop?  I can get video but no audio to work
[04:51] <ruel> can you give the URLs that cannot be resolved?
[04:51] <aoalinux> yes there are several though?
[04:51] <ruel> mylisto: try testing your mic first
[04:51] <cjae> ok I have tried to sudo apt-get purge --remove klavaro but upon reinstall it will not let me select another language
[04:52] <ruel> aoalinux: just one I'll check
[04:52] <mylisto> mylisto:
[04:52] <mylisto> the mic works...
[04:52] <aoalinux> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[04:52] <mylisto> when I hook up my sure sm57 to my mixer then to the laptop it works fine..
[04:52] <cjae> and I have figured out that jazyk means language selection from screen shots
[04:52] <mylisto> the internal mic works fine as well
[04:53] <cjae> but now there are no other languages to select from
[04:53] <gartral> i cant get my dap to connect to usb...
[04:53] <ruel> aoalinux: just a sec
[04:53] <aoalinux> ok thanks
[04:53] <ruel> aoalinux: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[04:53] <gartral> or rather, it takes a veerrrryyyy long time to see the device and mount it
[04:53] <ruel> try that
[04:54] <jtaji> aoalinux: you need the command at the bottom of this page http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:54] <jtaji> aoalinux: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[04:54] <cdenny> im back!
[04:54] <cdenny> in ubuntu flavor!
[04:54] <cdenny> wooho
[04:54] <aoalinux> ok thanks everyone
[04:54] <aoalinux> that worked
[04:55] <Socrates> I have the VIA P4M800 Pro chipset. Is it still the case that there is no good driver for this integrated graphics engine?
[04:55] <Socrates> I read something about UniChrome but it seems dodgy.
[04:56] <ruel> check the restricted drivers in System>Administration
[04:56] <idhan> hi
[04:57] <abchirk> hi
[04:57] <Socrates> System>Admin then what? There is only something called Hardware Drivers and it's empty.
[04:58] <cjae> !wgetpaste
[04:58] <cjae> !info wgetpaste
[04:58] <cjae> ! info wgetpaste
[04:59] <cjae> ?
[04:59] <ruel> cjae: I suggest you manually download, configure and install that package
[04:59] <jtaji> Socrates: that's a fair assessment
[04:59] <cjae> ruel: its not in ubuntu is it
[04:59] <jtaji> Socrates: it's pretty hopeless for Linux at this point
[05:00] <cdenny> whats hopeless for linux
[05:00] <ruel> its not included in the repository
[05:00] <ruel> but you can try installing it
[05:00] <keepsake> Hi, can someone tell me how I can do full upgrades instead of Partial Upgrades?
[05:00] <ruel> http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/wgetpaste-2.12.bz2
[05:00] <cjae> ah
[05:00] <jtaji> Socrates: does 2d work though?
[05:00] <ruel> then do, 'tar xfjv wgetpaste-2.12.bz2'
[05:01] <ruel> cd wgetpaste-2.12
[05:01] <ruel> ./configure
[05:01] <ruel> make
[05:01] <ruel> make install
[05:01] <ruel> :p
[05:01] <FloodBot2> ruel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <Socrates> I can't use desktop effects. WHich I would like to.
[05:01] <jtaji> cdenny: 3d drivers for VIA graphics
[05:01] <ruel> Socrates, I suggest compiz-fusion
[05:01] <Socrates> What is compiz-fusion?
[05:02] <keepsake> Socrates: Compiz has a lot of problems with various graphics drivers though, so keep that in mind.
[05:02] <Socrates> A driver?
[05:02] <cdenny> when i try to do "extra" visual effects the title bar for all windows disappears
[05:02] <Keal> ruel use \n instead :P
[05:02] <O__o> compiz-fusion is a nice eye candy
[05:02] <cdenny> i have an ati hd4830
[05:02] <ruel> sorry Keal
[05:02] <ruel> xD
[05:02] <Socrates> Oh, it's a card?
[05:02] <jtaji> Socrates: it's the built-in desktop effects, but you need a working 3d driver
[05:02] <cdenny> using ati drivers
[05:02] <ruel> Socrates: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[05:02] <Socrates> Thanks I'll look at that.
[05:02] <ruel> better that vista's desktop effects
[05:02] <Keal> what is compiz?
[05:03] <jtaji> ruel, cdenny: are you guys following at all?
[05:03] <keepsake> !compiz | Keal
[05:03] <jtaji> he has VIA graphics, no working 3d driver
[05:03] <cdenny> jtaji: my problem is different
[05:03] <cdenny> jtaji: so yes, i am
[05:03] <keepsake> !info compiz | Keal
[05:03] <O__o> Socrates, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbV0729Regg this is compiz
[05:04] <jtaji> cdenny: I didn't notice you were dealing with a similar problem ;)
[05:04] <cdenny> jtaji: when I click "extra" effects the title bar disappears on all windows
[05:04] <Keal> why would anyone want compiz? i have gnome
[05:04] <ruel> jtaji: sorry bout that :\
[05:04] <O__o> Keal, because compiz is nice
[05:04] <ruel> Keal: gnome and compiz can work together
[05:04] <cdenny> jtaji: brb, gotta restart just finished updating
[05:04] <jtaji> ruel: no worries ;)
[05:04] <ruel> xD
[05:04] <keepsake> Keal: Compiz-fusion gives you some desktop effects. It looks nice, but has problems with some graphics drivers.
[05:04] <c0l2e> currently my newly install ubuntu server has the us.ubuntu in source.list
[05:05] <O__o> the newest compiz has desktop earth effect
[05:05] <keepsake> Keal: Actually I'd suggest just stay without fancy graphics >>
[05:05] <Keal> ruel but can they still be friends after the affair ends?
[05:05] <Keal> :P
[05:05] <ruel> yeah xD
[05:05] <c0l2e> how can I replace that with the one that faster in the philippines?
[05:05] <c0l2e> i think the ph.ubuntu
[05:05] <ruel> where are you in ph?
[05:05] <ruel> im rom ph btw
[05:05] <ruel> from*
[05:05] <cjae> tipptrainner is pooched too! wow
[05:06] <cjae> !typing
[05:06] <Keal> holy crap i am eating my pillow because i was eating while typing :/
[05:06] <cjae> neither does ubuntu
[05:06] <cjae> :p
[05:06] <mercutio22> I am having problen using accents in qt apps. Can someone help me fix this?
[05:06] <O__o> Keal, good 4 u
[05:06] <sophia> #opengl
[05:06] <ruel> c0l2e: did you just installed a server version of ubuntu ina desktop pc or..?
[05:07] <c0l2e> ruel: using vmware
[05:07] <ruel> c0l2e: why are you using the server version anyway? :p
[05:07] <c0l2e> ruel: I just want to have the package list source.list to get packages using the ph.ubuntu not the us.ubuntu
[05:07] <Socrates> What's the terminal command to list all your drives?
[05:07] <O__o> although i live in canada, i find that the us server is faster than canadian server
[05:08] <c0l2e> ruel: coz It's faster.. and I intend to use it as a server
[05:08] <O__o> maybe ubuntu has more server and better server in us than in ca?
[05:08] <jtaji> Socrates: one way is... sudo fdisk -l
[05:08] <ruel> O__o: faster and more BW maybe?
[05:08] <O__o> Socrates, sudo fdisk -l
[05:08] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: sudo sed -i 's/us\.ubuntu/ph.ubuntu/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <c0l2e> ruel: why bothering installing a desktop default installation for a server purpose appliance?
[05:08] <O__o> ruel, whats BW?
[05:08]  * cjae likes talking to bots
[05:08] <c0l2e> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[05:09] <ruel> O__o: bandwidth
[05:09] <Socrates> And that is absolutely every partition/drive as well?
[05:09] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: don't forget to do sudo apt-get update after the change :)
[05:09] <O__o> ruel, ok
[05:09] <O__o> Socrates, yes
[05:09] <keepsake> Socrates: It should list all of the non-removable ones =P
[05:09] <c0l2e> IntuitiveNipple: yes it will replace it as ph.ubuntu.. but is there any other needed settings in source.list that needed to be replace or it fixes as ease as that?
[05:09] <ruel> c0l2e: sorry didn't knew, I'm just mystified on installing Ubuntu server in VMware.. :p
[05:09] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture.  Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:09] <Keal> oh i don't feel so well
[05:10] <IntuitiveNipple> c0l2e: no, nothing else required
[05:10] <Keal> i just nuked the hell out of chicken that was on the stove for 6 hours x.x
[05:10] <O__o> keepsake, it does list the removable one too
[05:10] <O__o> as long as they are plugin and power on
[05:10] <keepsake> O__o: Not always; today it refused to list mine (SD card)
[05:10] <O__o> keepsake, maybe it isnt mounted
[05:11] <Socrates> Yes, it lists my removeable hard disk.
[05:11] <keepsake> O__o: Ah, true.
[05:11] <keepsake> O__o: I was so busy messing with it trying to fix the CHS I didn't realise that =\
[05:11] <O__o> as long as they are mount fdisk -l should have them
[05:11] <cdenny> jtaji: fixed the problem
[05:11] <cdenny> where can i change the compiz-fusion settings?
[05:11] <keepsake> Also, would someone like to convince me to/against upgrading to 9.04 a6?
[05:11] <O__o> cdenny, u have to install the compiz manager
[05:12] <jtaji> !ccsm | cdenny
[05:12] <ruel> cdenny: have you downloaded compiz-ccsm
[05:12] <O__o> cdenny, then u can change setting in system preferences
[05:12] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:12] <cdenny> crap maybe i downloaded the wrong one
[05:12] <keepsake> cdenny: You can always remove it if it's wrong =P
[05:12] <cdenny> i downloaded desktop effects, compiz setup
[05:13] <O__o> cdenny, u need the manager
[05:13] <cdenny> i found it
[05:13] <O__o> cdenny, r u using 8.10?
[05:13] <ruel> sudo apt-get -y install compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
[05:13] <cdenny> respository was set to canonical only
[05:13] <lanoxx-> what is the name of the tool that is launched after i insert an sd card and which offers me to launch f-spot?
[05:14] <O__o> lanoxx-, u can always do that manually
[05:15] <O__o> lanoxx-, in f-spot
[05:15] <lanoxx-> O__o, i know, thats not my question, i just wanna know the name of the program
[05:16] <lanoxx-> O__o, because it pops up everytime i resume from suspend, and thats very annoying
[05:16] <O__o> then dont resume haha
[05:16] <lanoxx-> i would prefere it to remember if an sd card was in the system before i went to suspend and then dont give me the message
[05:16] <jtaji> lanoxx-: run 'ps au' in a terminal when it pops up, should be one of the last few listed
[05:17] <mylisto> can anyone tell me why when I enable mic capture..then close the volume control and re-open it...my mic capture is disabled?
[05:18] <lanoxx-> jtaji, nope doesnt show up
[05:18] <Socrates> OKay, although my P4M800 Pro is useless, I have an AGP4X/8X slot. What would be compatible card that would fit in such a slot?
[05:18] <Socrates> One that doesn't drive you mad.
[05:18] <jtaji> lanoxx-: sorry, what you really want to know is, go into the preferences in nautilus (file browser), Media tab
[05:19] <doleyb> Socrates: lots of nvidia things, like geforce5700 for examples.
[05:20] <lanoxx-> jtaji, so this dialoge is spawned by nautilus? should i file a bug against it?
[05:20] <cdenny> wow
[05:20] <cdenny> this is fun
[05:20] <Socrates> Are they cheap?
[05:21] <jtaji> lanoxx-: it would be against nautilus, yes
[05:21] <lanoxx-> jtaji, ok thx
[05:21] <keepsake> Is there a way to enable compiz without having it screw up 3D graphics?
[05:22] <jtaji> lanoxx-: actually I wonder if it's a kernel problem
[05:22] <stoic_> I need to uninstall squashfs so I can downgrade but it doesnt show up in the add remove programs list
[05:22] <keepsake> stoic_: Have you tried using apt-get remove --purge?
[05:22] <Keal> i am tripping my socks off due to tainted chicken so i am going to head out now to dreamland, cya
[05:22] <gRunt> Hi all what is a good guid based dvd burning software? I have an iso that only registers 700mb in size but there is actually 3.2gb worth of data in it and k3d doesnt seem to realise that and just wastes my dvd with a failed write.
[05:22] <jtaji> lanoxx-: either way someone will help figure it out
[05:22] <gRunt> k3b ratger
[05:22] <gRunt> rather**
[05:23] <lanoxx-> jtaji, i was thinking about that too, since the kernel would trigger the event for nautilus which in return spawns the dialogue
[05:23] <stoic_> keepsake I tried using apt-get something or other and it freezes after it asks me to confirm ill try apt-get remove -- purge real quick to be sure
[05:23] <keepsake> stoic_: Okay.
[05:23] <Socrates> So, if I were actually able to make desktop effects work through to System>Pref>Appearances (say, because I had a good and compatible video card, which I don't), would that be using this Compiz thing?
[05:23] <Keal> gRunt sounds like you are trying to burn on cd-r's to me
[05:24] <keepsake> Socrates: Yes.
[05:24] <rww> Socrates: yes
[05:24] <O__o> Socrates, what card fo u have?
[05:24] <ramavadakattu> i installed apache using sudo apt-get install apache2.And the httpd.conf is emply! How should i bind to a different port and  "<IP_ADDRESS>"?
[05:24] <Socrates> The worst one in the world: VIA P4M800.
[05:24] <Socrates> There's nothing that can be done.
[05:24] <jtaji> lanoxx-: I could also see how it might be a limitation of the hardware, if it powers down the card reader during suspend, for instance
[05:24] <c0l2e> in centos it has a setup and system- and in suse there's yast.. is there a one center configuration in ubuntu console ??
[05:24] <Keal> ramavadakattu don'
[05:25] <O__o> 7600GT only about $50
[05:25] <Keal> ramavadakattu don't you want to bind to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:25] <stoic_> keepsake: apt-get remove -- purge squashfs-tools ?
[05:25] <ramavadakattu> Keal : Yes i want to bind <IP_ADDRESS> at port 2345
[05:25] <Keal> my *is* my loopback "<IP_ADDRESS> anyways?
[05:25] <ramavadakattu> Keal : how should i specify that?
[05:25] <keepsake> stoic_: sudo apt-get remove --purge squashfs-tools
[05:26] <lanoxx-> jtaji, not necessarily, you could just use a token to remember the state, e.g. if there was a card inserted before hibernation and after hibernation, you could savely assume its the same card in the device.
[05:26] <ubuntu1> hi
[05:26] <lanoxx-> s/hibernation/suspend
[05:26] <stoic_> says it cant find package . . .
[05:26] <Keal> after i installed ubuntu my loopback turned into <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:27] <IntuitiveNipple> Keal: can depend on what is set in /etc/hosts
[05:27] <lanoxx-> Keal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting Apache
[05:27] <stoic_> keepsake: gksudo apt-get remove -- purge squashfs-tools cant find package purge
[05:27] <Socrates> What's wrong with VIA anyway? Why can't my card work?
[05:27] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:27] <keepsake> stoic_: don't put the space between the -- and purge
[05:27] <Socrates> Has it something to do with VIA themselves?
[05:27] <IntuitiveNipple> stoic_: you've got an extra space before the pruge
[05:27] <keepsake> stoic_: It's "--purge"
[05:27] <lanoxx-> Keal, maybe you are looking for this: echo "ServerName localhost" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn ??
[05:27] <O__o> VIA?
[05:27] <O__o> i dont know if VIA makes video card
[05:28] <keepsake> stoic_: And don't use gksudo, use sudo
[05:28] <stoic_> how come ?
[05:28] <keepsake> stoic_: Since apt-get is not a GUI program
[05:28] <stoic_> ahh
[05:28] <Socrates> Not card, integrated video
[05:28] <jtaji> Socrates: they don't release specs like nvidia, however unlike nvidia they don't release closed-source drivers
[05:29] <Socrates> Oh.
[05:29] <stoic_> awesome gksudo was the problem, why it froze
[05:29] <gRunt> Keal, no i have a dvd in an selected burn dvd image.
[05:29] <gRunt> but the iso is most definitely 700mb says so on my desktop but I can extract it to 3.2gb in size.
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: thanks gksudo was the problem
[05:29] <O__o> integrated video chips are crap
[05:29] <keepsake> stoic_: Is it removing?
[05:29] <Socrates> So, if I break into their office, steal the code, and give it to you guys, can you make a driver?
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: yes its done
[05:29] <rww> Socrates: no
[05:29] <stoic_> keepsake: thank you much
[05:29] <jtaji> Socrates: they don't release any Linux drivers, is what I mean
[05:29] <keepsake> stoic_: That's good to hear =), no problem
[05:30] <O__o> Socrates, just get nvidia card
[05:30] <Socrates> Yeah, I think so.
[05:30] <O__o> Socrates, u can get decent one for like $50
[05:32] <Keal> lanoxx- why would i refer to apache?
[05:33] <lanoxx-> Keal, because apache kept telling me about my localhost being <IP_ADDRESS> and i solved it with the cmd i posted above
[05:33] <lanoxx-> just thought your problem might be related to this
[05:34] <ulaelable> quick, whats the best ftp app
[05:34] <IntuitiveNipple> ulaelable: ftp
[05:34] <ulaelable> :o
[05:34] <Socrates> Funny - my screen savers seem to use my integrated graphics.
[05:34] <Keal> sudo told me my local host is <IP_ADDRESS> i think, lanoxx-
[05:35] <Socrates> But desktop effects won't work.
[05:35] <keepsake> !ftp | ulaelable
[05:35] <lanoxx-> Keal, i think you can have more than one localhost loop back
[05:35] <ulaelable> thanks
[05:35] <Keal> bbl watching 'headlines'
[05:35] <gaintsura> I'm about to re-install windows on my main machine, dualbooted with ubuntu, do I need to do anything post windows install to be able to come back to ubuntu?
[05:36] <ulaelable> what a useful bot
[05:36] <lanoxx-> ulaelable, yes, you will have to reinstall grub
[05:36] <lanoxx-> since windows overrides it
[05:36] <rww> !grub | gaintsura: first link
[05:36] <sebsebseb> !grub | gainsura
[05:36] <gaintsura> thanks =)
[05:37] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: why re installing Windows?
[05:37] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: how about going UBuntu only :D  or  Windows in a vm.  unless you got 3D games or something like that of course
[05:37] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Windows/Linux dual boot is actually the best choice IMO
[05:38] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Too many programs dependent on Windows structure =\
[05:38] <sebsebseb> keepsake: well  2D stuff is fine in a virtual machine
[05:38] <cdenny> with compiz fusion can i have a different wallpaper for each side?
[05:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Not only games, but many common apps, like MSN and such, don't function on Wine, or do not have Linux programs that support all features =\
[05:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: not wine virtual machien
[05:39] <XtrHotMarSpy> msn is an app?
[05:39] <sebsebseb> keepsake: running  proper WIndows inside   Ubuntu
[05:39] <cdenny> sebsebseb: whats up
[05:39] <cdenny> sebsebseb: i have lots of experience with virtual machines
[05:39] <rww> XtrHotMarSpy: Windows Live Messenger, I assume.
[05:39] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Ah, VM's, I'm mistaken.
[05:40] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Then that's a fine idea.
[05:40] <keepsake> sebsebseb: What do you use as the VM manager?
[05:40] <sebsebseb> keepsake: if I am running Virtual machines i'll use the binary from their site http://www.virtualbox.org so I can also have USB suppourt.  OSE has no USB suppourt
[05:40] <XtrHotMarSpy> pidgin does that
[05:40] <riwa> I'm looking for a program to manage my ipod photo. Itunes doesn't seem available (through synaptics anyway) so I wonder which one I should go for.
[05:41] <angrYaardvark> i use suns virtualbox
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and this computer does not have hardware virtualization, and so no KVM for me
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Interesting, I'll look into that, since I'm running dual boot right now.
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: fine for everything except 3D games basicalley
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: How's graphics/sound editing?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ,but soon Codeweavers Crossover Games is going to have proper  Directx 10 suppourt :D
[05:41] <keepsake> sebsebseb: And driver support?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> keepsake: that depends I guess
[05:42] <sebsebseb> keepsake: theres a good manual on their site plus of course #vbox
[05:42] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and then there are also the VMware products
[05:42] <keepsake> sebsebseb: And well, my pathetic ATI card won't do well with games on Ubuntu anyhow. I run Windows normally for that reason.
[05:42] <cdenny> i have a .bundle file on a dvd, how do i run it
[05:42] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you have execute permission?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: games in  Windows?
[05:43] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Games and general compatibility =\
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ok
[05:43] <cdenny> zenlunatic: maybe?
[05:43] <sebsebseb> keepsake: well  wine  or commercial versions of it,  and vm's and then your dual booted  XP?  not Vista?  as a last resort :)
[05:43] <mylisto> for anyone who can help...to get recordmydesktop to work...I need to open volume control, turn on the recording switch and enable mic capture. Problem is when I close volume control and re-open it, the mic captures are disabled once again...what can I do?
[05:44] <zenlunatic> cdavis, ls -l [file]
[05:44] <cdenny> i would assume so
[05:44] <keepsake> sebsebseb: I'm going to try VMing later so I can stay on Ubuntu more (XP sp2 btw).
[05:44] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yep that's good only using a psyical Windows install, as a last resort, because nothing else would work for that app
[05:44] <gaintsura> rww sebsebseb: the quickstart portion should suffice, yes?
[05:44] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: what?
[05:45] <gaintsura> for recovering grub after windows install?
[05:45] <cdenny> zenlunatic: I checked permissions, yes i do
[05:45] <cdenny> zenlunatic: but how do i execute?
[05:45] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: Windows does not like other OS's so it goes over the MBR
[05:45] <zenlunatic> cdavis, try ./[file]
[05:45] <sebsebseb> gaintsura: your /boot/grub will still be there, but you got to get the thing back on the MBR as well
[05:45] <zenlunatic> cdenny, while in the dir try ./blah.bundle
[05:46] <gaintsura> sebsebseb: yes, I know that, I'm saying, that the link you provided, the section called 'quick start' should be good enough, I shouldn't need to take down the rest, yes?
[05:46] <cdenny> zenlunatic: im sorry, ive been using ubuntu for a couple of minuts
[05:46] <cdenny> how do i get in the directory
[05:46] <sebsebseb> keepsake: sure, but even then,   I think this :)  native Linux app :)   some Windows crap ok run it in wine or commercial versions,  Codeweavers,  Cedega yeah.   no good there?  fine run in the VM.   no good there fine run in a real install of Windows
[05:47] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:47] <gaintsura> nice
[05:47] <gaintsura> I felt that coming
[05:47] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Actually all I really need are some random email clients that don't work properly with wine.
[05:47] <zenlunatic> cdenny, are you in gnome?
[05:47]  * ice_cream relaxes and enjoys the show
[05:47] <cdenny> zenlunatic: yes
[05:48] <sebsebseb> keepsake: such as?  and what's wrong with Thunderbird, Evoloution, or Kmail
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you see the dvd icon on the desktop?
[05:48] <keepsake> Should I cancel my Hardy -> Intrepid upgrade?
[05:48] <cdenny> yes
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, right click and properties
[05:48] <cdenny> yes
[05:48] <cdenny> its /media/cdrom0
[05:48] <keepsake> sebsebseb: FirstClass, a strange client used at my school; attaching files crash the program.
[05:48] <zenlunatic> cdenny, okay so cd /media/cdrom0
[05:48] <sebsebseb> keepsake: oh email in a XP VM,  well if that's all your going to do, that's not to bad
[05:48] <keepsake> Anyone have an opinion on whether I should stay at 8.04 or go 8.10?
[05:49] <cdenny> ah thanks
[05:49] <zenlunatic> keepsake, im on 9.04
[05:49] <cdenny> and the ./name.bundle?
[05:49] <sebsebseb> keepsake: 8.04 and 8.10 not that much different
[05:49] <ice_cream> hi, thought i'd check in again about the latest firefox/flash sound issues..seems to occur less frequently after last version update, but persists on occasion
[05:49] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[05:49] <keepsake> zenlunatic: That was actually my goal.
[05:49] <keepsake> I was planning on installing alpha6
[05:49] <zenlunatic> cdenny, yeah when you're current working directory contains the file you may invoke it with ./file.blah
[05:49] <keepsake> Which is why I'm upgrading to 8.10
[05:49] <cdenny> zenlunatic: its says root acces is required
[05:49] <sebsebseb> keepsake: yeah  I was going to tonight, but then change of plan
[05:50] <zenlunatic> cdenny, do you have root password?
[05:50] <cdenny> yes
[05:50] <cdenny> but it did not give me an option to enter it
[05:50] <zenlunatic> cdenny, so do that as root or sudo
[05:50] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Virtualbox isn't compatible with 9.04 yet, is it?
[05:50] <Socrates> Do you think that the GeForce4 MX |GeForce MX would work with 8.10?
[05:50] <sebsebseb> keepsake: of course Virtualbox can run 9.04
[05:50] <cdenny> zenlunatic: how?
[05:51] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Do you need to compile for 9.04? There isn't a .deb on the website.
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: and sure there is no 9.04 version of Virtualbox yet, but the 8.10 one should work
[05:51] <zenlunatic> sudo ./file
[05:51] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Wouldn't it not install though, since the distro version would be wrong?
[05:51] <cdenny> cool
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: I don't think so
[05:51] <ShinyHat> can someone walk me through getting java working?
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: I think it will be fine
[05:51] <cdenny> zenlunatic: its working, thank you very much
[05:51] <zenlunatic> cdenny, great to hear
[05:51] <sebsebseb> keepsake: 8.10 and 9.04 alpha6 are probably pretty damn similar under the hood
[05:52] <keepsake> sebsebseb: Okay, well, I'm almost done downloading files for 8.10, so I'll see what'll happen.
[05:52] <sebsebseb> keepsake: ok
[05:52] <zomby_woof> Socrates, yes it will
[05:52] <cdenny> can I have separate wallpapers for each side of the cube?
[05:52] <Socrates> Cool, thanks.
[05:52] <ice_cream> btw, i'm glad mplayer package by default still includes the gtk gui
[05:52] <keepsake> cdenny: Probably, just try setting it on each side
[05:52] <Socrates> Would most lower end nVidia cards?
[05:53] <cdenny> keepsake: doesnt
[05:53] <keepsake> Socrates: What's stopping you from spending a little and getting a middle-end card?
[05:53] <cdenny> keepsake: applies to all sides
[05:53] <zenlunatic> cdenny, sorry don't use that effects stuff
[05:53] <Socrates> I'm a philosophy student.
[05:53] <keepsake> cdenny: Ah, okay.
[05:53] <cdenny> dang it
[05:53] <cdenny> i just closed terminal
[05:53] <keepsake> Socrates: I see...
[05:53] <cdenny> and the install window disappeared
[05:53] <Socrates> So I'm poor.
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, its cool it will remember your commands
[05:54] <Socrates> Relatively, anyway.
[05:54] <keepsake> Socrates: Well, a middle-end card wouldn't cost you more than $50
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, just use the arrows
[05:54] <cdenny> but it was in the process of installing
[05:54] <keepsake> Socrates: Although a high-end one does go well above $150
[05:54] <cdenny> did i cancel it?
[05:54] <keepsake> cdenny: If the process was started by that Terminal, then yes.
[05:54] <zenlunatic> cdenny, yeah
[05:54] <cdenny>  :(
[05:54] <Socrates> USD$50. But I'm in Australia; our exchange rate is terrible at the moment, and IT stuff, which is all imported, is going up in price.
[05:55] <cdenny> hmmm
[05:55] <keepsake> Socrates: Steal one =P
[05:55] <cdenny> omg
[05:55] <cdenny> i just uninstalled
[05:55] <cdenny> then it was going to install
[05:55] <cdenny> and i accidently clicked cancel
[05:55] <cdenny> :|
[05:55] <FloodBot2> cdenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <keepsake> Socrates: Well I'm actually Canadian, so CAD50 is pretty close to 50 Australian... dollars?
[05:55] <jvboom> How well does boxee run on ubuntu?
[05:55] <ice_cream> oh, also wanted to point out that the last couple of times i compared "aptitude safe-upgrade" to "aptitude full-upgrade"  and it appeared that they've been identical in package upgrade suggestions/effect...is one of the commands obsolete..?
[05:56] <Socrates> Yeah, possibly, I'm not sure whether your dollar has suffered as much as ours.
[05:57] <ShinyHat> can someone help me get java working?
[05:57] <dismal_denizen> Maybe.
[05:57] <dismal_denizen> What's the problem?
[05:57] <cdenny> i love this chat
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: Well, at its highest, the exchange was 1.1CAD to 1 USD (usually CAD <1.00), but now it's 0.75 again.
[05:57] <weweboom> what's the channel topic?
[05:57] <ice_cream> weweboom, try  /topic
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: It's actually been hovering at 0.9 recently
[05:57] <weweboom> sorry first time, no need to be hurtful
[05:57] <keepsake> Socrates: But dropped to 0.75 in the last weeks or so
[05:57] <Huufarted> Any way to force fsck to run on the next reboot?
[05:57] <cdenny> where can i find themes for ubuntu?
[05:58] <weweboom> cdenny gnome-look.org
[05:58] <cdenny> weweboom: thank you
[05:58] <dismal_denizen> Or Gnome-art Next Gen app
[05:58] <Socrates> I had a problem with Java after installing 8.10. I installed the unrestricted thingy, and it didn't work, so then I installed something called OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start and Runtime and everything worked.
[05:58] <weweboom> Socrates try icedtea
[05:58] <cdenny> the content on each side of the cube is the same, its not separate for each side, can i change this?
[05:59] <Socrates> No, it works now!
[05:59] <cdenny> i want to have one side for office, etc.
[05:59] <keepsake> Socrates, weweboom: Why not the proprietary Java software?
[05:59] <Socrates> Yeah, one Australian dollar gets about .65 US.
[05:59] <dismal_denizen> Use the official JRE
[05:59] <weweboom> keepsake idk I'm not much of a coffee person
[05:59] <Socrates> So I should get rid of OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start???
[05:59] <Socrates> But then what do I do, since it was the only thing that worked!
[06:00] <weweboom> Socrates if it works for you don't listen to me, i thought you had a problem
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: Ideally, use the one by Sun Java.
[06:00] <ice_cream> hmm, surprisingly i have had no need for jre since latest format
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: But then again, don't fix it if it's not broken.
[06:00] <weweboom> I only really need java to play powder game
[06:00] <keepsake> Socrates: Probably most important thing you need to know with Linux =__=
[06:00] <Socrates> Yeah, well, I would use the Sun Java one, but when I was just using it I couldn't even get into this chat room.
[06:00] <ice_cream> keepsake, i disagree
[06:00] <dismal_denizen> ice_cream: it's good to have the JRE installed (I'm a Java programmer)
[06:00] <ice_cream> customize, break, and learn
[06:01] <Socrates> I didn't know that OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start was not official. I just installed it.
[06:01] <keepsake> ice_cream: True, but there's been times when there wasn't much learn, just "revert what was broken".
[06:01] <Socrates> Will it cause massive problems later?
[06:01] <ice_cream> heh
[06:01] <dismal_denizen> Does anyone know how to get network monitoring working in Conky?
[06:01] <keepsake> Socrates: Massive? No.
[06:01] <weweboom> I didn't even know there was an ubuntu chat, just say it in xchat list
[06:02] <Socrates> But what could go wrong?
[06:02] <ice_cream> just dont forget the roots -- one of the major ideas behind the open source community is the freedom to change anything with your system
[06:02] <cdenny> ubuntu wont let me eject the disk
[06:02] <cdenny> it says cannot unmount
[06:02] <bullgard4> _abc_: Where do the two letters 'ff' come from in 'ffmpeg'?
[06:02] <keepsake> Socrates: To be honest, not much, but it might not be as good as Sun Java, that's all.
[06:02] <weweboom> cdenny try using unmount
[06:02] <Arkain> has anybody here heard about a problem with intrepid and virtualbox?
[06:02] <keepsake> cdenny: umount -f
[06:02] <cdenny> same message
[06:02] <bullgard4> Where do the two letters 'ff' come from in 'ffmpeg'?
[06:03] <srid_> I'm looking forward to buy a slightly high performing linux computer that is 1) of small form factor, 2) enough memory and dual core (I'll be bulding lots of programs on this besides running XUL apps). any suggestions?
[06:03] <Socrates> Okay, that's alright. Why doesn't the normal Sun Java work? It worked fine in 8.04.
[06:03] <sanal> .,.,.,.,.
[06:03] <sanal> ./././//
[06:03] <FloodBot2> sanal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <keepsake> Socrates: Not sure here, I'm running 8.04 (at least for the next couple of minutes), and it works fine for me.
[06:03] <cdenny> -f doesnt appear to be correct
[06:03] <Socrates> Yeah, well I'll be interested to see what happens. I installed 8.10 just today also.
[06:03] <keepsake> cdenny: What are you trying to unmount?
[06:04] <weweboom> has anyone else noticed how much longer it took to install intrepid ibex then it did to install hardy heron? is that just me?
[06:04] <cdenny> keepsake: dved
[06:04] <cdenny> dv
[06:04] <cdenny> dvd
[06:04] <Socrates> They ought to fix this problem. Heaps of people seem to be having it.
[06:04] <keepsake> cdenny: You don't need to unmount DVDs
[06:04] <Socrates> Java worked in 8.04 for me. No worries.
[06:04] <Arkain> I keep having a problem where VBox is eating all of system ram, eveb after closing the program. Figuring it has to be a kernel bug because the same version of the program doing the same thing worked in Hardy just fine.
[06:04] <keepsake> cdenny: You can't just open the CD bay?
[06:05] <cdenny> keepsake: no lol it says it cant
[06:05] <cdenny> keepsake: an application is using it
[06:05] <weweboom> cdenny try holding down the button, always works for me
[06:05] <XtrHotMarSpy> stick a paperclip in the hole
[06:05] <weweboom> like hold it down indefinitley
[06:05] <cdenny> weweboom: nope, the message pops up after about 10 seconds
[06:05] <cdenny> lmao
[06:06] <weweboom> well I'm out of ideas, sorry
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: Do you know which program?
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: You can always just force end the program.
[06:06] <cdenny> it was an installer
[06:06] <keepsake> Socrates: Try 9.04 =P
[06:06] <cdenny> it installed vmware workstation
[06:06] <keepsake> cdenny: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[06:06] <Socrates> But it's not ought yet is it? Not the proper version I mean.
[06:07] <Socrates> ought = out
[06:07] <keepsake> cdenny: And kill any instances of VM and stuff
[06:07] <XtrHotMarSpy> the cd drive has a small hole in it. stick a paperclip in there and push. it'll open.
[06:07] <keepsake> Socrates: No, it's still alpha right now.
[06:07] <keepsake> Socrates: But I'm taking the risks and doing the upgrade anyway.
[06:07] <keepsake> \o/
[06:07] <Arkain> cdenny, can you log out of all sessions then log back in, pop open a terminal and type eject /dev/yourdrivepath ?
[06:08] <keepsake> Arkain: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace =P
[06:08] <Socrates> What will happen if I upgrade to 9.04 when I have OpenJDK Java 6 Web Start on my computer as well as the official Java?
[06:08] <cdenny> i killed vmware_tray, didnt fix it
[06:08] <Arkain> keepsake: doesn't get any terminal sessions that may be running on the console
[06:08] <Socrates> Will the whole thing collapse?
[06:08] <keepsake> Arkain: Ah, but I doubt many people run console terminal commands.
[06:08] <keepsake> Socrates: I'll tell you soon enough =P
[06:09] <keepsake> Socrates: 1401/1420 files for 8.10...
[06:09] <Socrates> I bet it doesn't work.
[06:09] <Socrates> I bet you one Australian dollar.
[06:09] <Arkain> keepsake: I imagine you're right for most people.
[06:09] <BobC2> Help pls! I use a Lynksys router and just had my TWC modem replaced XP machine works fine my Ubuntu 8.04 has "No network connection"  any help?
[06:09] <Socrates> Which will get you a few atoms of a new video card.
[06:10] <cdenny> ill log out
[06:10] <cdenny> see if that works
[06:10] <keepsake> Socrates: Anything helps at this point...
[06:11] <XtrHotMarSpy> BobC2, plug in the network cable
[06:12] <Socrates> Are you upgrading or burning a CD?
[06:12] <Socrates> I mean, upgrading using the upgrade tool rather installing from a CD.
[06:12] <Keal> my blankie is bounty fresh! :D
[06:12] <BobC2> Checked that XrtHot in OK
[06:12] <keepsake> Socrates: Using upgrade manager.
[06:12] <simt> google
[06:12] <dayo> hello people. what commandline-based rhythmbox alternatives are out there?
[06:13] <cdenny> nope
[06:13] <simt> orkut
[06:13] <cdenny> didnt work
[06:13] <cdenny> still cant eject
[06:13] <cdenny> even when i was logged out
[06:13] <Arkain> Did you open a console and try the eject command?
[06:13] <Socrates> Why are my DVDs fine yet desktop effects won't work at all?
[06:14] <Arkain> eject will unmount automatically if nothing is using the drive
[06:14] <Socrates> Isn't there some connection between the various things one's video card deals with?
[06:14] <dayo> !audio > dayo
[06:14] <Arkain> might need to use sudo
[06:16] <BobC2> XtrHotMarSpy I try a reboot
[06:16] <cdenny> sudo or anything doesnt work
[06:16] <cdenny> says its busy
[06:17] <cdenny> ill just take it out when i shutdown
[06:17] <Arkain> cdenny: definitely odd.  Whatever you last ran that used the drive is still running.
[06:17] <BobC2> XtrHotMarSpy than WORKED  silly me!~ thjanks for the reply!
[06:18] <XtrHotMarSpy> yay!
[06:18] <BobC2> Yes! thanks!
[06:18] <cdenny> Arkain: probably something i did on my end
[06:19] <Alex_21> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu minimal install today. I want to install Orca, but I can't find the package under Ubuntu 7.04 Hardy
[06:19] <lzd> hello, everyone! loogin for best house music? http://letitplay.org is here
[06:19] <Alex_21> 8.04 Hardy, sorry. Can anyone please help?
[06:19] <lzd> ubuntu rox!
[06:19] <zenlunatic> cdenny, i've been researching your problem
[06:20] <cdenny> zenlunatic: you didnt have to do that
[06:20] <cdenny> zenlunatic: but thanks
[06:20] <BobC2> Gotta love the  Ubuntu community CYA!
[06:20] <Alex_21> I need help. I can't install Orca
[06:20] <zenlunatic> cdenny,  its cool i learned about somehing new called fuser
[06:20] <Alex_21> What is the package called in 8.04 Hardy
[06:20] <Alex_21> ?
[06:21] <Alex_21> Please
[06:21] <lstarnes> Alex_21: the screen reader for gnome?
[06:21] <Alex_21> Yes
[06:21] <Alex_21> Grr
[06:21] <lstarnes> Alex_21: gnome-orca
[06:21] <bootup> i'm looking to buy a neo freerunner and was wondering if anybody knows which version is preferred for someone in the USA.
[06:22] <lstarnes> Alex_21: I found it using aptitude search orca
[06:22] <zenlunatic> cdenny, try this 'fuser -k /media/cdrom0'
[06:23] <programan> I am running ubuntu from my laptop after using a usb mouse after unplugging it to go back to touchpad it is all messed up and barely works right
[06:23] <lzd> http://letitplay.org is here
[06:24] <XtrHotMarSpy> programan, reboot
[06:24] <cdenny> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy.
[06:24] <cdenny>         (In some cases useful info about processes that use
[06:24] <cdenny>          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[06:24] <cdenny> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[06:25] <cdenny> crap
[06:25] <FloodBot2> cdenny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:25] <programan> I've tried...
[06:25] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrr im so pissed off..
[06:25] <programan> hmm
[06:25] <Alex_21> I can't figure out why I get no sound out of my box. Do I need to install something. It is a minimal install
[06:25] <Alex_21> Please
[06:25] <grendal_prime> ive built this thing from source "rekall" twice now and im getting the same error and i cannot figure out what the hell is going wrong
[06:26] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21: make sure your volume is all the way up on the speaker icon
[06:26] <Alex_21> I have nothing on my top pannel
[06:26] <Alex_21> It is a minimal install
[06:26] <XtrHotMarSpy> cdenny, find the little hole in the drive door, stick an unfolded paper clip in it and push
[06:26] <o0Chris0o> that could be why also, I'm not sure
[06:26] <XtrHotMarSpy> it will open
[06:27] <wewelinuxfanboyb> I guess in an ubuntu forum, my username is kind of a given
[06:27] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=891089 try this
[06:28] <wewelinuxfanboyb> NathanMurr your ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <wewelinuxfanboyb> snowangel your ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:28] <simion314> hi, on my laptop i have a thing like a mini joystick that can move the mouse, i have a problem  :my pointer is been draged into a corner, i disabled the touchpad with synclient but this joystic is still works, how is this named? i want to google how to turn it off with synclient, please help
[06:29] <grendal_prime> has anyone successfully installed rekall from source?
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: i got it out
[06:29] <bazhang> wewelinuxfanboyb, stay on topic
[06:29] <Alex_21> Thanks
[06:29] <XtrHotMarSpy> cdenny, with the paperclip?
[06:29] <Alex_21> I'll read it
[06:29] <o0Chris0o> Alex_21, let me know if that helps
[06:29] <wewelinuxfanboyb> bazhang kindly take it from your poolboy
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: yea
[06:29] <cdenny> XtrHotMarSpy: BUT, the dvd is shown as still there
[06:29] <XtrHotMarSpy> wewelinuxfanboyb, your ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:29] <o0Chris0o> ...
[06:30] <cdenny> i think the dvd died
[06:30] <cdenny> or lost its mind
[06:30] <cdenny> ill do a full restart
[06:30] <cdenny> brb
[06:30]  * lzd good music here: http://letitplay.org
[06:30] <bazhang> lzd, stop that
[06:32] <cdenny> woohoo!!
[06:33] <cdenny> thanks to everyone who helped me
[06:33] <cdenny> it must have lost its mind or something
[06:33] <maxagaz> how to switch tty from command line ?
[06:33] <Keal> what is kubuntu?
[06:33] <ruel> Ctrl+Alt+F1 just killed me
[06:33] <maxagaz> ruel, that's not from command line...
[06:34] <programan> Anyone having problems switching between a usb mouse and touchpad?
[06:34] <ruel> maxagaz: I just hitted it and x server died
[06:34] <wanna_learn_more> hi,how to install ath5k at ubuntu 2.6.27-11 ???
[06:34] <c0l2e> how can I umount cifs before networkmanager goes down??
[06:34] <ruel> LOL
[06:35] <ruel> maxagaz:
[06:35] <ruel> xD
[06:35] <joetheodd> My volume with linux is a lot quieter than it was with Windows.. how can I fix this?
[06:35] <Keal> what is kubuntu?
[06:35] <joetheodd> Keal, ubuntu based on kde instead of gnome
[06:35] <lstarnes> ruel: did you try ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[06:35] <ruel> !kubuntu | Keal
[06:36] <ruel> lstarnes: I don't want to try
[06:36] <maxagaz> lstarnes, i know this, i want to use command line
[06:36] <joetheodd> maxagaz, ctrl+alt+f#
[06:37] <ruel> lstarnes: ok i got that thanks
[06:37] <ruel> kewl
[06:37] <ruel> it worked
[06:37] <maxagaz> joetheodd, that's what i want to do using command line
[06:37] <ruel> :D
[06:37] <cthompson__> anyone help with shorewall(having internal networking issues with virtualbox?)
[06:38] <wanna_learn_more> hi,how to install ath5k at ubuntu 2.6.27-11 ???
[06:39] <cthompson__> wanna_learn_more: thats a kernel version -- not an ubuntu version
[06:39] <cthompson__> !ath5k
[06:39] <wanna_learn_more> !ath5k
[06:39] <wanna_learn_more> sorr
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> y
[06:40] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: install linux-backports-modules-intrepid
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> already
[06:40] <wanna_learn_more> then?
[06:40] <bn2knowitall> does anybody else have problems with the network--managment icon disapearing?
[06:40] <princessashley> i want to download a nice pink theme for my windows but, i dont what exactly to download
[06:41] <princessashley> im really new to nix
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> same
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> but I really love it
[06:41] <cthompson__> gnome-look.org
[06:41] <bn2knowitall> a lot better then windows
[06:41] <Alex_21> Thanks for all your help
[06:41] <Flannel> !theme | princessashley
[06:41] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:already,then?
[06:41] <Alex_21> Good night
[06:41] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: system > administration > Hardware drivers
[06:42] <princessashley> can do but am i wanting gtk theme, gnome theme or...?
[06:42] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:system is command or directory??i tried both of it but failed
[06:42] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: it's a menu at the top of your screen
[06:43] <princessashley> ill check those sites out
[06:43] <princessashley> im gonna hang around though. i may need a hand
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> well, for some reason the wireless icon on top with the bars will randomly disappear on me when I start up ubuntu somtimes
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> and when I go to manage it all i get is telephony and wired connection and the wireless in there is gon
[06:44] <bn2knowitall> gone
[06:44] <kraut> moin
[06:45] <learn_more> crdlb:system is command or directory??i tried both of it but failed,for the command line >>>bash:command not found
[06:45] <kinja-sheep> Which Ubuntu do I want?  Ubuntu MID or Ubuntu UMPC?  There are no Ubuntu Notebook Remix?
[06:46] <kinja-sheep> I wanted an original Ubuntu-desktop though.
[06:46] <princessashley> i mainly want pinkish windows so am i wanting window borders?
[06:46] <princessashley> at art.gnome.org
[06:46] <Flannel> princessashley: Yes.
[06:46] <Flannel> princessashley: and then an appropriate desktop background
[06:47] <crdlb> kinja-sheep: if you have a full-size notebook, just use ubuntu(-desktop)
[06:47] <princessashley> cool
[06:47] <kinja-sheep> crdlb: I have a 7" notebook.
[06:48] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: xubuntu
[06:48] <crdlb> kinja-sheep: you probably want the netbook remix then
[06:48] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: Xubuntu is lighter on system resources? ;o
[06:48] <learn_more> crdlb:me?sorry disconnected ><
[06:48] <bn2knowitall> exit
[06:49] <kinja-sheep> crdlb: I tried to find netbook remix but I can't find the iso anywhere on ubuntu.com :(
[06:49] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: yes... lighter, as well has less to offer then the full verison though... you have to keep this in mind when choosing something "light-weight"
[06:49] <linux> hi everyone
[06:49] <bobbie4> i like the ubuntu thing. It seems to be okay
[06:50] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: as well the interface is not gnome, its xfce which is a little quicker and different
[06:50] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: Good point.  I'll have to do that. I like Gnome. :O
[06:50] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: please re-read... its NOT gnome
[06:50] <Flannel> kinja-sheep: http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr  I will warn you though, it's not really up to date last I heard
[06:51] <crdlb> learn_more: at the top of your screen, it says "Applications Places System" (possibly localized)
[06:51] <kinja-sheep> cthompson_: I know. I'll try the xfce since this isn't my main system so I wouldn't mind trying new things out.  KDE one day, too.
[06:51] <cthompson__> kinja-sheep: I like kde... primarily b/c its developed in part in my home town
[06:52] <ulaelable> google is a front
[06:52] <quibbler> kinja-sheep: http://oem-images.canonical.com/unr/
[06:52] <ulaelable> prove me wrong
[06:52] <kinja-sheep> Thanks everyone. I'll look into it.
[06:55] <tangerine_> moo
[06:55] <cojack> up
[06:56] <tangerine_> up
[06:56] <learn_more> how to go system at ubuntu server 8.10
[06:56] <learn_more> how to go to system at ubuntu server 8.10 >>really new to this distro
[06:57] <Provant> learn_more
[06:57] <adful123> what's so nice about urxvt?
[06:57] <Provant> What do you really need a hand with?
[06:57] <learn_more> i said it before,ath5k..i read this section http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[06:57] <learn_more> but dont know how to go to kernel configuration or system
[06:57] <crdlb> learn_more: it's a headless server?
[06:57] <learn_more> headless?
[06:57] <learn_more> u mean?
[06:58] <crdlb> without a GUI
[06:58] <learn_more> yeah
[06:58] <learn_more> without gui
[06:58] <crdlb> what do you need wireless for?
[06:58] <adful123> anyone? hehe
[06:58] <learn_more> tried my sparklan
[06:58] <learn_more> but i dont want any madwifi
[06:58] <crdlb> ath5k doesn't support AP mode yet, so you can't use it to make a wireless router
[06:58] <learn_more> client only
[06:59] <learn_more> its okkie dokkie for me
[06:59] <noren__> hi there
[06:59] <noren__> is there any good drive recovery and fixing tool in buntu
[06:59] <learn_more> crdlb:any solution?
[06:59] <learn_more> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[06:59] <crdlb> learn_more: I'm looking
[07:00] <noren__> i have this old hard disk which i want to fix to setup an old pc f mine
[07:00] <learn_more> crdlb:okay
[07:03] <maxagaz> what is the best way to log on an ubuntu installed on a vmware ?
[07:04] <Reidy> I need some help related to installing World of Warcraft on 8.10
[07:05] <noren__> !games
[07:05] <Flannel> Reidy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:05] <quibbler> Reidy: you can best ask that in #winehq
[07:05] <Reidy> I know, I have a questions about one of the installation methods.
[07:05] <Flannel> Reidy: Best to just ask the question then.
[07:06] <noren__> i have this old hard disk which i want to fix/ repair to setup an old pc of mine guide to ubuntu tools anyone
[07:06] <crdlb> learn_more: I'm not sure how to enable them without using jockey :/
[07:06] <Reidy> I'm going to be installing WoW via Blizzard's Downloader. Is there a special place I need to download the files to?
[07:06] <crdlb> learn_more: what's preventing you from using a wired connection?
[07:07] <learn_more> jockey??
[07:07] <learn_more> crdlb:i used wired too,but want to try ath5k.because madwifi project spend their time for ath5k
[07:08] <Flannel> Reidy: I don't believe so, no.
[07:08] <crdlb> learn_more: that's the tool you use (jockey-gtk specifically) for enabling ath5k with a GUI
[07:11] <clarkeo> hi so i had an early version of jaunty insalled and decided to do a clean install of alpha 6 as i had dependency problems and it seemed to be a good idea at the time anyway so I did this forgetting that my home directory was encrypted...easy enough to do seeing its such a transparent process now! so any advice how to get back into my files?
[07:11] <quibbler> noren__: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[07:12] <wanna_learn_more> crdlb:dc again,whats jockey :-/
[07:12] <doleyb> wanna_learn_more: jockey is a program to enable/disable some binary hardware drivers, including atheros
[07:12] <wanna_learn_more> owh,apt-get install jockey?
[07:12] <cdenny> how do i format a hdd?
[07:12] <crdlb> wanna_learn_more: but it is apparently only usable with a GUI
[07:12] <Provant> Provant ~ Out.
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> (T_T)
[07:13] <wanna_learn_more> how to install gui ?
[07:14] <DeVnOrE_> howto format a drive : man mkfs
[07:15] <DeVnOrE_> any bash gurus here?
[07:15] <cdenny> bash.org ?
[07:16] <scizzo-> DeVnOrE_: maybe ask the question about bash and see if someone can answer?
[07:16] <sniper0269> Just testing a new theme
[07:16] <darek33333333> czesc
[07:16] <sniper0269> open to suggestions...
[07:16] <randal> error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libogmrip0
[07:17] <randal> does anyone know how i can fix this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libogmrip0
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> well i need to write a bash script that moves illegal (not jpg) to another location while keeping the filestructure.
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> randal: apt-cache search libogmrip0
[07:17] <DeVnOrE_> and if it exist install it.
[07:18] <DeVnOrE_> if not then i can't help you, i'm on my workcomputer and it is a mac so i can't check
[07:18] <randal> randal@randal-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search libogmrip0
[07:18] <randal> [sudo] password for randal:
[07:18] <randal> libogmrip0 - Application for ripping and encoding DVD - libraries files
[07:18] <randal> randal@randal-desktop:~$
[07:18] <randal>      (what did this do)
[07:18] <FloodBot2> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:19] <DeVnOrE_> randal: checked if the package was in the repos
[07:19] <DeVnOrE_> randal: sudo apt-get install libogmrip0
[07:19] <prince_jammys> randal: searched for a package matching your pattern, found one, and printed it.
[07:19] <randal> devnOrE it said it was allready installed to the newest version
[07:20] <DeVnOrE_> randal: weird, try reinstall instead of install
[07:20] <simi_> any ideea how to disable a trackpoint?
[07:20] <Flannel> simi_: synaptics likely.
[07:20] <randal> devnorE how do i do that in terminal
[07:20] <Flannel> !synaptics | simi_
[07:20] <DeVnOrE_> sudo apt-get reinstall libogmrip0
[07:21] <emergion> Hell i just updated my ubuntu machine but I have a laptop I just installed ubuntu on aswell. Can I use the same 200Mb of files I downloaded yesterday.  ( I have a tight ass download limit where I am.)
[07:21] <randal> devnOrE randal@randal-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get reinstall libogmrip0
[07:21] <randal> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[07:21] <DeVnOrE_> well gotto get some work done, migrating databases today... (yay)
[07:22] <simi_> i managed to enable SHMConfig but i can disable only the toucpad no the trackpoint, and i think that the trackpoint is IBM and not using synaptics
[07:22] <DeVnOrE_> randal: i'll connect to my ubuntubox
[07:22] <hareldvd> can I check which package a command belongs to?
[07:22] <BorkisDrizzt> what is the difference between apt-get purge and apt-get remove?
[07:22] <magnetron> emergion→ i'm not sure, but maybe you could do it with apt-cache. however most of the files the laptop needs will not be present
[07:22] <randal> devnOrE whats ubuntu box
[07:22] <wanna_learn_more> jockey is for gui?
[07:23] <DeVnOrE_> my ubuntu machine... :)
[07:23] <wanna_learn_more> any driver detected that runs on graphic?
[07:23] <randal> devnOrE i just went in package manager and reinstall but i dont think it worked
[07:23] <magnetron> BorkisDrizzt→ "purge" will remove all settings files related to the package
[07:23] <DeVnOrE_> i'm on a mac here so i can't check the commands :)
[07:23] <BorkisDrizzt> conf files and the like?
[07:23] <magnetron> BorkisDrizzt→ yes.
[07:23] <BorkisDrizzt> okay. I guessed right then :)
[07:24] <BorkisDrizzt> thanks for your help
[07:24] <randal> devnorE it didnt work any other ideas im trying to use ogmrip
[07:24] <DeVnOrE_> randal: you could try removing the package and purging the files and then reinstall
[07:24] <randal> devnOrE whats purging
[07:25] <DeVnOrE_> removing all conffiles related to the package
[07:25] <cdenny> how can i automount a hdd?>
[07:25] <DeVnOrE_> i'm sorry but i need to tend to my databases for a while...
[07:26] <cdenny> i formatted it to ext3
[07:26] <randal> devnOrE by doing a complete remove in package manager
[07:26] <emergion> magnetron: Do you know where apt-cache keeps the packages it grabs?
[07:26] <gh0st3r> using wireless how do i scan for available networks via the cmd line?
[07:26] <DeVnOrE_> nybody know a nice way to move all files not jpg to a different location while keeping the filestructure?
[07:27] <randal> devnOrE do i have to restart my computer after
[07:27] <DeVnOrE_> i'm using find to list the files but if i use exec and mv the files are kopied to a flat structure resulting in overwrites
[07:27] <magnetron> emergion→ no, but i know the man page will tell you all that.
[07:27] <randal> devnOrE any other ideas this didnt work
[07:27] <wahyu> hallo
[07:27] <DeVnOrE_> randal: not atm sry
[07:27] <emergion> I read it bit sketchy on the details ill have another look
[07:28] <randal> devnOrE ok thanks for your help :)
[07:28] <wanna_learn_more> there is any way to install ubuntu gui?
[07:28] <cdenny> my hdd isnt shown in ubuntu
[07:30] <Anna_111> just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install and the problem persists.
[07:30] <Flannel> wanna_learn_more: What do you mean?  You want to install a system with a GUI? you want to use a GUI to install?  You already have an install, and want to add a GUI?
[07:32] <wanna_learn_more> i already install intrepid ibex server and want to add gui
[07:32] <Flannel> wanna_learn_more: alright.  just install the ubuntu-desktop package (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[07:32] <wanna_learn_more> flannel:u know how to activate wireless driver on shell?
[07:33] <wanna_learn_more> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[07:33] <Anna_111> Flannel: Can you help me please? just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done clean install and the problem persists.
[07:34] <emergion> magnetron: I found them under man apt-get thanks
[07:34] <magnetron> emergion→ cheers
[07:34] <wanna_learn_more> it donts give me clear solution,it said that i have to have kernel more than 2.6.25
[07:37] <jeancalvin> hi folks. I have dates and numbers. I need to predict when the number X will occur. how can i predict this?
[07:37] <doleyb> wanna_learn_more: so you're trying to make a wireless work?  is it a laptop?
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> no.i38
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> i386
[07:37] <wanna_learn_more> pentium 3 ~_~ really2 old2 pc
[07:37] <jeancalvin> for example; March 14 = 248,081. March 17= 249,358. ______ = 256,000?
[07:38] <wanna_learn_more> thats why i cant install any gui,very scared it doesnt work
[07:38] <Flannel> jeancalvin: Try #math
[07:38] <jeancalvin> Based on the history, what date will we get the number 256,000?
[07:38] <jeancalvin> Flannel: thanks.
[07:38] <adful123> hi how do i only have '$' instead of the whole name in terminal?
[07:40] <Anna_111>  just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done cleaem persists.
[07:40] <doleyb> adful123: try echo $prompt
[07:41] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:42] <adful123> uhm, seems like nothing happened
[07:42] <shauno> I believe the var is $PS1 (one, not eye), not $prompt
[07:43] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:45] <adful123> uhm, what do i do then after that?
[07:45] <adful123> kinda new here, sorry
[07:45] <Anna_111>  just installed Ubuntu 8.10. I am getting this while booting: There is a problem with the configiration server. /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity_check-2 exited with status 256. Please help. Twice done cleaem persists.
[07:45] <doleyb> adful123: Well, try using a different PS1 variable, like maybe ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[07:46] <adful123> uhm, where do i set that?
[07:46] <doleyb> adful123: But you should maybe first try to see how it got set away from the default
[07:46] <doleyb> adful123: export PS1=new_thing
[07:46] <adful123> yeay! tnx :)
[07:47] <doleyb> adful123: Maybe you should place that export line into ~/.bashrc, so it's there for future sessions
[07:47] <adful123> kewl, thanks so much
[07:47] <adful123> can i see the default there too?
[07:48] <adful123> i guess i'll open it first
[07:48] <adful123> :)
[07:48] <adful123> thanks again
[07:48] <OrEvA> I installed real player from .rpm package file using alien but I dont know how to run it ....plz alyone can help me
[07:49] <doleyb> OrEvA: dpkg -l|grep realplayer; Followed by dpkg -L realplayer-something
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[07:49] <adful123> ahh, it's there alright.. thanks an :)
[07:50] <OrEvA> @doleyb i didn't understand
[07:51] <doleyb> OrEvA: run dpkg -l to see all packages on your system.  Then run dpkg -l|grep -i realplay to see ones with realplay in the names
[07:51] <doleyb> OrEvA: look for the one you just installed (which you should also be able to see by looking at the output of alien)
[07:52] <doleyb> OrEvA: Find that name, and pass it to dpkg -L, to see what files it has inserted into /usr/bin.  Execute those files to start the player.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> oh not alien :(
[07:52] <adful123> ahh cool one doleyb thanks too :)
[07:52] <yao_ziyuan> what is the "rich text" file format and editor in linux?
[07:53] <yao_ziyuan> just for informal WYSIWYG writing
[07:53] <g4lt-lappy> RTF is a microsoftism.  any decent editor should handle it, such as gvim or gedit
[07:53] <dronix> gedit
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: its basically a formatted text file with fonts, underlines, bold, italics and text alignments
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> yao_ziyuan: you could use openoffice to view/edit
[07:53] <yao_ziyuan> gedit can edit rich text? awesome
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> for wysiwyg i'd use gedit or leafpad
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> I think you gotta import it, but yeah
[07:54] <NarbeH> can some one help me to install USB Conexant DGC modem for Dell XPS ?
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: plug it in, wait a few seconds, run lsusb in terminal
[07:54] <g4lt-lappy> RTF ain't exactly rocket science.  it's like two decades old now
[07:55] <yao_ziyuan> how do i create a rich text file with gedit?
[07:55] <ubunturrrrrrrrrr> всем привет
[07:55] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: ok
[07:55] <ubunturrrrrrrrrr> здесь есть русские??
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: one line will identify the chip, websearch for the hex didgits that represent the device
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> !ru | ubunturrrrrrrrrr
[07:56] <OrEvA> @doleyb it has no files in /usr/bin
[07:56] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: u know. i have installed the driver but wvdial says no modem detected. the result of lsusb Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0572:1324 Conexant Systems (Rockwell), Inc.
[07:56] <mf_417> Hi, is there any graphical configuration tool for LDAP Client in ubuntu?
[07:56] <doleyb> OrEvA: well it must have something in like /bin or /local/bin or stuff
[07:57] <doleyb> OrEvA: (Unless it's simply a plugin/codec which isn't meant to be executed on its own)
[07:58] <eL-GeWzZz> Good Morning ppl
[07:58] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: u know what is the problem?
[07:58] <OrEvA> @doleyb this was my output "http://paste.ubuntu.com/132334/"
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: wesearch for   ubuntu 0572:1324 conexant
[07:59] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: :-s
[07:59] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: /opt/real/RealPlayer/realplay is probably it
[07:59] <doleyb> Yes, that looks like it.  The good old /opt directory.
[07:59] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i don't know really what to do :-s
[07:59] <OrEvA> @doleyb ok let me try
[07:59] <eL-GeWzZz> it's possible to install iTunes 8.1 in Ubuntu? i had try Wine..but i have problems,when install QuickTime (package in Setup of iTunes) i have black screen and error message for the installation
[07:59] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: you know, realplayer is available through the medibuntu repository
[08:00] <eternaljoy> am I able to install Ubuntu on a 1GB USB stick and have it boot from it?
[08:00] <adante> is there a way to restart networking for just a single device?
[08:00] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys nope i didnt knew that
[08:00] <adante> like my eth0 is dhcp and works fine, but eth1 is static and after a resume is not set
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you need to open your favourite search engine, www.google.com, www.msn.com, www.ask.com  and type that search string into the search box and click search
[08:01] <Lopan> eternaljoy: go to system>admin>create usb start disk
[08:01] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: Google. :)
[08:01] <prince_jammys> !medibuntu | OrEvA  : i'd install it through repository -
[08:01] <eternaljoy> Lopan: simple as that?
[08:01] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: then you'll get updates, etc.
[08:01] <Lopan> eternal joy: yarp
[08:01] <eternaljoy> Lopan: that must be new feature in 8.10.. that wasnt there in 8.04
[08:02] <Lopan> eternal joy: no it wasnt
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: they are all equal to me, i like choice
[08:02] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys thanx for ur help
[08:02] <mf_417> Hi, is there any graphical configuration tool for LDAP Client?
[08:02] <eternaljoy> Lopan: so system>admin>create usb start disk will create a boot 1GB USB Stick of Ubuntu?
[08:02] <OrEvA> @prince_jammys its working now
[08:02] <Lopan> eternal joy: i think so, not sure how big you need
[08:02] <prince_jammys> OrEvA: good
[08:02] <spc> this may sound dumb im new.. is there a way to have my wireless card startup at boot and keep the same ip address from my router? (a static one)
[08:03] <eternaljoy> Lopan: thats awesome of them to include that in 8.10
[08:03] <Lopan> eternal joy: indeed it is
[08:03] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i can't understand about the search results :-s
[08:04] <eternaljoy> Lopan: I like to have that as backup, in case my HD ever crashes, at least I can still load Ubuntu and connect to internet whilst I get a new HD
[08:04] <Scix> Where can I find whish models cups has the ppd files for in ubuntu 8.10?
[08:04] <EnlightenedAcer> hey does anyone know how to change the settings in E-17 so that the menu doesnt come up when you click on the background?
[08:04] <eternaljoy> EnlightenedAcer: whats E-17?
[08:04] <Lopan> eternal joy: i take mine to work and run it on their machines as a utility :3
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: http://www.nabble.com/modem-p19415884.html
[08:05] <eternaljoy> Lopan: awesome :)  and what I love about 8.10 is that it autoamtically connects me to my wireless internet
[08:05] <banteng> anyone here knows hot install omnibot in etwolf?
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> eternaljoy: Enlightenment desktop environment
[08:05] <prince_jammys> EnlightenedAcer: i'd try #enlightenment
[08:05] <eternaljoy> EnlightenedAcer: ah ok
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> #enlightenment
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> ahh
[08:05] <eternaljoy> banteng: sorry, too complicated for me
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> haha, nvm
[08:05] <prince_jammys> with a /join in there
[08:05] <EnlightenedAcer> yeah yeah
[08:06] <prince_jammys> small channel, but more likely that you'll get help
[08:06] <darek33333333> siema
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: looks like you will becomiling stuff
[08:06] <darek33333333> jak natym gadac bo nowy jestem
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> *be compiling
[08:06] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: sorry?
[08:06] <darek33333333> pomozcie
[08:07] <banteng> eternaljoy: any good reference?
[08:07] <EnlightenedAcer> prince_jammys: thanks.. btw
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you may have to compile a driver, rockwell are winmodems
[08:07] <eternaljoy> banteng: sorry i dont know
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | NarbeH
[08:07] <prince_jammys> EnlightenedAcer: welcome
[08:07] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: but i have the driver :-s
[08:07] <spc> this may sound dumb im new.. is there a way to have my wireless card startup at boot and keep the same ip address from my router? (a static one)
[08:07] <Guest42185> hi all
[08:07] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/dgc/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[08:08] <carpii> spc, sure. assuming you mean an internal ip
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: looks good
[08:08] <spc> carpii: yes.. one that my router would assign me.. however i would like it to remain the same always.. (so i can remotely reboot)
[08:08] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: but i said, no modem detected....
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: if you run: sudo lshw -C modem   does it show up
[08:09] <Lopan> I keep getting an error whenever I attempt to install stuff, output here paste.ubuntu.com/132338/
[08:09] <carpii> spc: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[08:09] <spc> carpii: thanks.. i will check it out..
[08:09] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: nothing ...
[08:10] <uncategorized> sometimes, i have needed to restart alsa
[08:10] <uncategorized> running /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:10] <uncategorized> actually seems to break it
[08:10] <uncategorized> as it never detects any audio devies again
[08:10] <uncategorized> unless i restart
[08:10] <uncategorized> how can i fix this without a restart
[08:10] <cjae> I was using kubuntu but a friend had ubuntu, so id mount manager what he wants so he can see ntfs partitions on the windows partition same drive?
[08:10] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: hey hey
[08:10] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i found it i think
[08:10] <cjae> -id +if
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: sudo dgcconfig
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i entered this
[08:11] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: and modem i think found :D
[08:11] <TuTUXG> !dselect
[08:11] <wanna_learn_more> there is any apt command to search for binary?
[08:11] <cjae> !info dselect
[08:12] <cjae> :p
[08:12] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/132339/
[08:12] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: plz. see and is it ok?
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> !info make
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> i see2
[08:12] <wanna_learn_more> !info ath5k
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: cool, i found this which points to that site you gave me: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg02895.html
[08:13] <wanna_learn_more> !info madwifi
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: here is the man page for the conf file http://linux.die.net/man/5/wvdial.conf
[08:13] <cjae> !ntfs
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: you'll find theres a gui for it, looks like you got the modem detected though
[08:13] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: hmm. ok wait to test
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: dont edit the wvdial.conf i think tat just got setup
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> !dialup | NarbeH
[08:14] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: yeah the modem found on /dev/ttyACM0
[08:15] <TuTUXG> !tmp
[08:15] <ecret> anyone have a sip phone that wouldnt mind doing a quick test?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: cool, then read ubottu's guide
[08:16] <Myztikal_> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10 installed on my computer
[08:16] <Myztikal_> is it still possible to update from that
[08:16] <Myztikal_> ?
[08:16] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: thq :) for helping me.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> NarbeH: np man, ubuntu and linux take a lot of websearching to get things moving
[08:17] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip: i know. i do it always. but when my English is bad ... :D
[08:18] <owen1___> if i create a C application, will i be able to run it on windows/mac?
[08:18] <Juhaz> owen1___, if you write it right.
[08:19] <owen1___> Juhaz: what is 'right'?
[08:19] <linuxonmac> owen1___ : I would lean more towards Objective style C
[08:19] <uncategorized> how can i figure out what modules are loaded at startup....i think i need to modprobe my sound card
[08:19] <ActionParsnip1> NarbeH: just try to understand guides online, if you dont get one, try another
[08:20] <ActionParsnip1> uncategorized: you can add its name to /etc/modules
[08:20] <Juhaz> owen1___, only use libraries that are available for all platforms, stick to basic C rather than using compiler/platform specific extensions, etc.
[08:20] <NarbeH> ActionParsnip1: thq :)
[08:20] <sleepy_cat> can someone give me a site that takes very long to load
[08:20] <uncategorized> ActionParsnip1: i want to find out what my computer loads currently, as i need to mimic those command snow
[08:21] <shay27m> Hello , can  someone please recommend me on good tool for creating / editing html/php websites code?
[08:21] <jlmones> my firefox just stopped wokring and it says child process when i try to load it
[08:21] <owen1___> Juhaz: where can i find info about such libraries? also, what about c++?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip1> uncategorized: you could run: lsmod to see what is loaded currently
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: run: ps -ef | grep fire
[08:22] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: is it still running?
[08:22] <mylisto> anyone know of a voice changer for ubuntu?
[08:22] <jlmones> no
[08:22] <mylisto> preferably in realtime
[08:22] <linuxonmac> owen1___: if your just starting out and want to try making basic apps look into realbasic as a compiler
[08:23] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: what if you run firefox from terminal, you should get intelligent output
[08:23] <jlmones> how do i run it in terminal?
[08:24] <Juhaz> owen1___, pretty much the same thing goes for c++. the libs are something you'll have to look on your own, I can't know what you need or want to use, if anything.
[08:24] <Titan8990> jlmones, type: firefox
[08:24] <Swin_> I've got a harddrive with critical info failing. Head was stuck. I tapped & freed it. The drive is in an enclosure in a mini-fridge next to me. Drive is mounted. What command do I use to recover specific directories ignoring errors? ddrescue only works on files unless there's a script
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: type firefox and press enter
[08:25] <owen1___> linuxonmac: Juhaz: thank for the tips!  i want to write a small (no UI) app that listens to changes in a textfile and send info to my server about those changes.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: you can launch any app from terminal
[08:26] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: and you can also do anything you can do in gui in terminal (except flash in websites)
[08:26] <stoic_> What is the easiest way to enable squashfs 1.0 support ?
[08:26] <jlmones> says it wasnt installed am installing
[08:26] <owen1___> linuxonmac: Juhaz : and i want it to run on mac windows as well so i thought about c/c++.
[08:27] <Nalf> owen1___, good luck with that network stuff. ^_-
[08:27] <owen1___> Nalf: (-: is it PITA in c?
[08:27] <Nalf> owen1___, I suggest you look into Code blocks. http://www.codeblocks.org/
[08:28] <quibbler> mylisto: Audacity?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip1> !terminal | jlmones
[08:28] <Swin_> My Linux skills are amateur, I was running ddrescue on whole drive but it was dangerously slow (also it's nowhere near full to its 300gig capacity), then I realized I should work with it mounted.  ;) Sorry, I'm not familiar with what you're talking about.
[08:28] <wanna_learn_more> ubottu:how to enable driver via terminal?
[08:28] <owen1___> Nalf: looks nice! almost sweet as my vim..
[08:29] <owen1___> Nalf: pain in the ass
[08:29] <stoic_> !info squashfs-tools
[08:29] <Nalf> owen1___, I don't l ike it to much, but to each their own, I suppose. Anyways, codeblocks runs great in ubuntu.
[08:29] <wanna_learn_more> !driver
[08:30] <spc> does anyone know how to start my wireless on boot without logging in to desktop
[08:30] <stoic_> im relatively new to linux and I found that squashfs 3.x is not backwards compatable and I know nothing of patching the kernel
[08:30] <wanna_learn_more> !jffs
[08:30] <wanna_learn_more> !make
[08:30]  * Cosmo gives wanna_learn_more<EMAIL_ADDRESS>PRIVMSG #ubuntu :-!make,  and  - what can you make of them?
[08:30] <stoic_> and cant find an install package for earlier versions
[08:30] <owen1___> Nalf: cool. will it help me in writing code that will run on windows as well?
[08:30] <owen1___> Nalf: btw, is there c/c++ irc chat?
[08:31] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c++
[08:31] <Nalf> owen1___, there you go.;)
[08:31] <maxagaz> where can i find the *original* repository file of Intrepid ?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: sudo apt-get install squashfs-tools
[08:32] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c++newbie
[08:32] <Swin_> ! Nevermind I found just what I was looking for here: http://vytautas.jakutis.lt/node/6 Thanks.
[08:33] <maxb> maxagaz: What do you mean?
[08:33] <mylisto> quibbler: not audacity
[08:33] <owen1___> quibbler: Nalf what about c?
[08:33] <mylisto> I need a program that I can use with skype to change my voice...
[08:33] <mylisto> doing some online hypnosis...
[08:33] <maxagaz> maxb, i'm looking for the original /etc/apt/sources.list of intrepid
[08:33] <koshari> spc can you get it to work at all without gui? if so jsut write a script of what you did to get it going
[08:33] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c
[08:34] <sniper0269> I have a question.... What is that that system monitor I see in screen shots that tells you the time and a full system report
[08:34] <mylisto> so when I tell the person 'sooner or later you will notice my voice changing...' then change voice a little bit 'the fact that my voice has begun to change means you're entering an even deeper hypnotic trance'
[08:34] <mylisto> :D
[08:34] <jlmones> still cant get firefox to work says that theres no such file
[08:34] <durt> sniper0269, screen shots of what?
[08:34] <jlmones> so i currently dont have any web browser
[08:35] <owen1___> quibbler: i type /j #c but it's not going anywhere...
[08:35] <sniper0269> just linux screen shots...
[08:35] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: http://www.codeplex.com/skypefx
[08:35] <durt> sniper0269, be a bit more specific
[08:35] <quibbler> owen1___: ##c
[08:35] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: it's windows only
[08:35] <emretemp> guys my gnome-panel keeps crashing, this is really annoying, anyone knows where can I get any kind of error logs (if gnome-applet writes some logs)
[08:35] <mylisto> well...
[08:35] <mylisto> can't use it then
[08:35] <maxb> maxagaz: Hmm... I don't know what generates the initial content. I suggest you just configure it how you like. (using System > Administration > Software Sources if you're not familiar with the text format)
[08:36] <HarassmentPanda> mylsito: I don't know how much luck your going to have finding a specific program that would do what your looking for in real time. You could try migrating this source, it's in c#
[08:36] <sniper0269> here is a link....http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&file1=71993-1.jpg&file2=71993-2.jpg&file3=71993-3.jpg&name=SlicknesS
[08:37] <stoic_> ActionParsnip1: just installs the upgraded version
[08:37] <maxagaz> maxb, it didn't work well
[08:37] <spc> koshari: yes it works.. however i'm new to ubuntu and i want to run it headless (vnc when needed) and wireless however to get the wireless started i have to logon to the desktop and it starts automatically
[08:37] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[08:37] <maxagaz> maxb, i just deleted the original one, i'd like to have it back
[08:37] <jlmones> this is what it says when i try to launch firefox Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)
[08:38] <quibbler> gladio70: /join #ubuntu-it
[08:38]  * maxb greps things
[08:38] <spc> koshari: I'm very new.. hell this is the first time i've been on irc in 10 years
[08:38] <Kajarly>  #drupal-support
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: its not something i use but maybe theres a menu option or something
[08:38] <BorkisDrizzt> Why can't I find TuxRacer in synaptic?
[08:38] <maxb> maxagaz: /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu/sample/sources.list
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> stoic_: it may simply give you the squashfs type for mounting
[08:39] <spc> koshari: i also want to keep the same ip address.. (which is easy when i;m wired to my router)
[08:39] <sniper0269> does anyone know what monitor this is .......(clicky) http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&fi
[08:40] <jlmones> does anyone know what to do about reinstalling firefox? i tried through terminal but it says i have the latest version
[08:40] <DJones> BorkisDrizzt: Have a look for extremetuxracer that might be the equivalent package to TuxRacer
[08:40] <Kajarly> stupid ubuntu somehow "forgot" what default app should open irc:// ... How do i join a certain channel?
[08:40] <sniper0269> jlmones have you done a apt-get purge firefox
[08:41] <stoic_> ActionParsnip1:  ill check it out, thanks, reading on compiling from ubuntu website see if I can learn to compile the old version
[08:41] <twocarlo> Kajarly:/j #nameofchannel
[08:42] <jlmones> Yes
[08:42] <lanoxx_> whats the name of gnomes standard unzip program?
[08:42] <maxagaz> maxb, this file is for hardy
[08:42] <EnlightenedAcer> hey has anyone here ever tried Elive?
[08:42] <Kajarly> twocarlo: that didn
[08:42] <Kajarly> 't work
[08:43] <Kajarly> now it did lol
[08:43] <fliegenderfrosch> lanoxx_: file-roller
[08:44] <pozic> How can I disable the playing of the sound I get when gdm is completely started? Also, when I run alsamixer and mute the sound, on restart the mixer is unmuted again.
[08:44] <ecret> can someone with a sip phone please try calling me?
[08:44] <lanoxx_> thx fliegenderfrosch
[08:44] <sniper0269> Could someone look at this....
[08:44] <sniper0269> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71993&file1=71993-1.jpg&file2=71993-2.jpg&file3=71993-3.jpg&name=SlicknesS
[08:45] <sniper0269> I want to know what is being use to monitor the system
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> sniper0269: looks like conky to me
[08:45] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: go to your login screen settings/accessibility then you can change the sounds
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> sniper0269: or superkaramba
[08:45] <sniper0269> tx ActionParsnipl
[08:46] <jlmones> tried installing firefox and it says firefox cannot be found in terminal
[08:46] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: system administration/login screen/accessibility
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[08:47] <EnlightenedAcer> pozic: i got a text to speech app made a wav file and got a personal welcome msg ;) ..as a suggestion
[08:47] <Nalf> Anyone have a radeon hd 4850 and issues with fglrx?
[08:48] <Debolaz> Trying to install daemontools-run in 8.10, I get an error message that /etc/inittab doesn't exist. Do I need to install some other package to get inittab?
[08:48] <Extreme_b> hi, can anyone help mi with setting up a iscsi on my ubuntu
[08:48] <Extreme_b> pls
[08:48] <pozic> EnlightenedAcer: yes, I had thought about that too. It would also be nice if I could control the machine with my voice. Simple things like "NEXT" for next song would be nice.
[08:48] <I1> i have to uso the "crash" command but the man page is not enought for me to understand....somebody knows a web page with a tutorial or something else????
[08:48] <joetheodd> Drive geometry question.. is the "beginning" of a hard drive physically located at the middle or outside?
[08:48] <Guest94595> sorry, got no song ;(
[08:48] <Extreme_b> hi, can anyone help mi with setting up a iscsi on my ubuntu
[08:48] <joetheodd> Cause the outside of the disk is faster than the inside
[08:49] <ecret> can someone please try calling my sip phone? address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | ecret
[08:50] <ActionParsnip1> !ati | nalf
[08:50] <jlmones> gaaaah it just stops in terminal at Setting up firefox (3.0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) ...
[08:51] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, that doesn't work.
[08:51] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, there are people all over who have had issues with it and any 'work around' I have seen doesn't really work. From what I have read, it seems that the driver doesn't work well with the bundled version of X.
[08:51] <Tryfon> hi guys how i am having input from a file to a string and i am using getline . i want where ever there is a comma to act as endline and save the number(int this case to the string). this i have done so far but with some problems... the original \n in the input is ommited and i  get wrong results..
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849530
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: you could message this dude to ask how he got his/her's working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FU_ZiHORI
[08:53] <Tryfon> any body have any ideas how to have comma and \n act both as endofline
[08:53] <Tryfon> ?
[08:53] <stoic_> autoconf is giving me a no input file error message
[08:53] <I1> anybody can help me with the crash command????
[08:54] <Gloonix> yo
[08:54] <jlmones> any other ideas?
[08:55] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, 8.04
[08:55] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, it has a different version of X.:P
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: same driver though right, maybe its a bug
[08:57] <Skaarj> hi
[08:57] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, that's what people have been saying.
[08:57] <jlmones> maybe a different web browser?
[08:57] <sinelaw> how can i see what ppa a package was installed from?
[08:58] <sinelaw> (i'm pretty sure it came from a ppa)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/325394
[08:58] <pozic> !ppa
[08:58] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, if I install the driver X crashes. Uninstalling it doesn't work. Tried a billion different xorg.confs.. yeah, I saw that.
[08:58] <wanna_learn_more> !kernel-header
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/28118
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !kernel-headers
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> hi how to install kernel-headers for intrepid ?
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !GNU
[08:59] <wanna_learn_more> !GPL
[08:59] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper ?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Radeon_HD_4850_Linux_Performance_s114475.html
[09:00] <timahvo1> hi all
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: i dont use ati cards so im not much help, i can websearch like the best of em though
[09:00] <sinelaw> pozic, that does not answer my question.
[09:00] <sniper0269_> do i need a boot partition if I am dual booting with Vista and I wanted to be crazy and let windoze handle the booting...
[09:00] <sniper0269_>  or do I
[09:00] <xiliu> HI, My Ubuntu 8.19 X-Server cannot start
[09:00] <linuxonmac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:00] <stoic_> This is such a pain, does anyone know how to enable squashfs 1.0 support?
[09:00] <mylisto> harassmentpanda: how do I migrate the c# source?
[09:00] <sinelaw> my question is how can i see what ppa a package was installed from?
[09:00] <mylisto> no idea how to do that
[09:01] <xiliu> when it start, it has been watiting and hanged there
[09:01] <HarassmentPanda> mylisto: you would need to use mono and know how to program in c#
[09:01] <timahvo1> just upgarded my kernel via synaptic and ran update-grub but no change in my menu.list. do I need to edit my menu.list manually to reflect the changes ?
[09:01] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, hehe.. I saw most of that stuff.. just didn't have any luck with it. From what I gathered the x version that ships with 8.10 is incompatible with the driver because of a driver issue.  so people are waiting on ATI.
[09:01] <Tryfon> any body have any ideas how to have comma and \n act both as endofline?
[09:01] <Nalf> ActionParsnip1, maybe if I get bored later I'll install 8.04 and play around with it for awhile.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: sounds about righ
[09:01] <mylisto> harassmentpanda: we'll no idea then
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> Nalf: always waiting for ati to get their finger out, sounds like the 90s ;)
[09:02] <timahvo1> just upgarded my kernel via synaptic and ran update-grub but no change in my menu.list. do I need to edit my menu.list manually to reflect the changes ?
[09:03] <nteunga> i have a question. i'm new here.
[09:03] <aprilhare> nteunga: yes you are new here. any other questions? :)
[09:03] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: usually you dont need to do manual changes to grub
[09:03] <nteunga> i want to know how can i write a css-language on wiki?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: nope its all done for you
[09:04] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: so after a reboot my new kernel should appear on my menu.list ?
[09:04] <Nalf> timahvo1, yup, it should.
[09:04] <wanna_learn_more> hi how to install kernel-headers for intrepid ?
[09:05] <timahvo1> am running hardy if thats of any relevance
[09:05] <Skaarj> wanna_learn_more: there are packages called something like "linux-hreaders..." ... just install them
[09:05] <jlmones> how come it wont let me burn dvds even though i have bresero burning
[09:05] <nteunga> i want to make a design for a website. and it is on a wiki-page
[09:05] <timahvo1> ActionParsnip1: Nalf thanks guys
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> timahvo1: yes
[09:06]  * Nalf needs to get up in five hours.. to go to sleep or not.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> wanna_learn_more: uname -a; apt-cache search headers | grep linux
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> wanna_learn_more: install the package name that matches your kernel version
[09:07] <Skaarj> i need to create an opensuse-chroot, therefore i need zypper (rpm-package-manager) does someone know an respository which provides zypper for ubuntu/debian ?
[09:07] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, after upgrading to 10/08 my menu.lst was broken. after correcting that, I was able to boot again, but very slow, because some daemons have been added to several runlevels, which caused to slow the process down...
[09:07] <twocarlo> im cowboy ...dead or alive
[09:07] <I1> i need to know where is the "debuginfo" file of my ubuntu distro....how can i find it?
[09:08] <jlmones> how do i install ubuntu firefox?
[09:08] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: backup menu.lst .. delte it ... run grub-install
[09:08] <aprilhare> jlmones: it should already come with ubuntu.
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:08] <Nalf> I1: sudo updatedb and then locate debuginfo. a lot of log files are located in /var/log
[09:08] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, I think I have chosen the wrong answer for some question during upgrading
[09:08] <Skaarj> tom17bombadil_: maybe run update-initramfs -u ALL too
[09:09] <aprilhare> does anyone else have trouble viewing this video? http://www.gnu.org/fry/
[09:09] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, you think that might speed-up boot-process?
[09:10] <Skaarj> it dont think it will make it slower ...
[09:11] <tom17bombadil_> Skaarj, I will give it a try. Thanks for the hint!
[09:11] <jlmones> i tried that i just say ; unable to resolve host kurt
[09:12] <Guest76573> ciao
[09:12] <Guest76573> !list
[09:14] <I1> i made a "find / -name debuginfo" but i hadn't found any files......why???? where the debuginfo of my distro????
[09:16] <I1> i need this file : "namelist:This  is  a  pathname to an uncompressed kernel image (a vmlinuxfile) that has been compiled with the "-g option, or  that  has an  accessible,  associated,  debuginfo  file.   If the dumpfile argument is entered, then this argument must also be  used.   If the namelist argument is not entered and no dumpfile argument is entered, crash will search in several typical directories for  a kernel namelist that matches the live system." h
[09:17] <jlmones> unable to resolve host?
[09:17] <Skaarj> I1: find searches for the exact filename by default ... maybe running find / -iname "*debuginfo*" as root helps
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> jlmones: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[09:19] <quibbler> aprilhare: i take it you can not play the video...what video plugins do you have?
[09:20] <afancy> Hi, my X-server cannot start after i have installed a software last night. when the xserver start, it was hanged there for waiting. I have check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it said "Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatiable NVIDIA X dirver not found)", Could anybody tell me how to fix this problem? thanks in advanced!!