[11:44] <Trebesan> DrSyk, how could i check if an adapter was mounted.
[11:45] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[11:45] <VirusTB> bazhang,  sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae
[11:45] <drbobb> hello, automounting cd/dvd's on the gnome desktop stopped working for me, how do I fix it?
[11:45] <bazhang> VirusTB, yes
[11:45] <DrSyk> Trebesan, a network adapter?
[11:45] <Trebesan> yes
[11:45] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: I'd suggest amd64 (to take full advantage of your hardware) and I have all amd64 running on my laptop + 2 machines.
[11:45] <VirusTB> bazhang,  ah ok... wel im playing with a LIVE cd so i'll note that down when im ready to install it on mu macbook
[11:45] <VirusTB> my*
[11:46] <DrSyk> I think you've mistaken me for a linux expert, but I'd suppose that the device should show up in /var/log/dmesg or under /dev.
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> amd64 ?
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> kinja-sheep: means the amd64 version of ubuntu ?
[11:46] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Yes.
[11:46] <silv3r_m00n> the x86_64 ?
[11:46] <Trebesan> lol, im just asking anyone who will help at this point.
[11:47] <zvacet> silv3r_m00n: yes amd64 is name for 64 bit version
[11:47] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Yes.
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> oh
[11:47] <Oasa> Trebesan : What do you mean by an adapter is mounted ?
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> that page recommends 64 bit ubuntu
[11:47] <silv3r_m00n> so all drivers would work fine like 32bit ?
[11:47] <Oasa> drbobb : gedit etc/fstab
[11:47] <yq> I have postgresql-8.4 installed (via apt-get) but it is not launched right after booting even though it does have all the proper /etc/rc.*/ K- and S- files. It is not mentioned in syslog, daemon.log or bootstrap.log - what am I doing wrong? Am I looking at the wrong log files?
[11:48] <silv3r_m00n> currently all my printer scanner camera webcams are working fine
[11:48] <VirusTB> bazhang, what kind of system checks can I run from terminal on a live cd??
[11:48] <VirusTB> bazhang,  sorry for asking such noob question, but just got a macbook on ebay, and dint get the install disc's with it :(
[11:49] <bazhang> VirusTB, what else did you wish to check? running processes or some other
[11:50] <Rob215> 0asis speak!
[11:50] <beebee> redhat rocks
[11:50] <bullgard> Evolution 2.28.1 > Mail > On this computer > Inbox: I have set up and I am using a compartment "abc" to store incoming emails. I can find this file as /home/<username>/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/abc. What is the function of the additional files abc.cmeta, abc.ev-summary, abc.ev-summary-meta, abc.ibex.index and abc.ibex.index.data that Evolution has created too?
[11:50] <mamy> Oerkkes,thanks now i understand about repository
[11:50] <drbobb> heh I came up with the bright idea that restarting dbus might fix my cd/dvd issue, but it just killed my session and locked up the machine
[11:50] <VirusTB> bazhang,  not really, just want to lik do a system diagnostics
[11:50] <Oasa> Rob215 yes
[11:50] <Oasa> drbobb : obviously it does
[11:51] <VirusTB> bazhang,  i did Memtest already,  i know how the processor / ram installed... audio works, video works, wifi works... what else should I be checking?
[11:51] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: You can do the short version "sudo lshw -short > ~/Desktop/$(hostname).txt"
[11:51] <drbobb> Oasa: well but i still don't know why cd/dvd notification stopped working for me
[11:52] <bazhang> VirusTB, that seems to pretty complete as far as I can tell
[11:53] <VirusTB> bazhang,  ok question Im not sure if you can answe this, but my keyboard is german, i changed it to US.. but my backspace and arrow keys (up n down, left n right) dont seem to work?  could that just be the keyboard layout i have? or the keys dont work @ all?
[11:53] <oneandonly> hello
[11:53] <nefast> It doesn't look like I did something wrong, ardchoille :C
[11:53] <bazhang> VirusTB, you could try and set the kb layout and check
[11:54] <Rob215> http://i45.tinypic.com/15dvrwm.png
[11:54] <mati1> mati
[11:54] <Oasa> drbob : all you ahve to do is gedit /etc/fstab to automount
[11:54] <lyhana8> hi, what should I use as CATALINA_HOME for tomcat6 on karmic ?
[11:54] <VirusTB> bazhang,  ok thanks!   now its just up to me to decide is i want to install Ubuntu on my Macbook or Mac n ym Mac book :P
[11:55] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep,  thanks!  the " -short" is really helpful!
[11:55] <ardchoille> nefast: See my pm
[11:55] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: Np. If you want the HTML version (long), just swap out -short with -html
[11:56] <drbobb> Oasa: i don't think that is the point
[11:56] <drbobb> I made no changes to my fstab, and what used to work suddenly stopped
[11:56] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep,  i need to learn al these command n stuff :( used ubuntu for like 3 weeks and then stopped
[11:56] <VirusTB>  kinja-sheep  i neeed to get back on my ubuntu vibe!
[11:57] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: :(
[11:58] <Oasa> drbobb : I am asking you t omake changes so that it will automount
[11:58] <isolat3dsh33p> VirusTB, I stopped for like a months or something after failed to upgrade to 9.10. But now I fully used Ubuntu. ;)
[11:59] <drbobb> Oasa: are you sure that's the way? so what should I actually change?
[11:59] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep, isolat3dsh33p  How do i get my terminal to run the last commant that I did? (i know i would just press the Up arrow, but not working on my Mac :( )
[11:59] <drbobb> (and why was it working until a few days ago with the exact same fstab?)
[11:59] <yq> How can I find out why postgresql-8.4/nginx fail to launch on boot even though they have rc.* S/K scripts and everything? It works just fine when I run /etc/init.d/nginx start and /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 start but they not start on their own which is rather annoying. I also haven't discovered anything in the log files although I might have been checking the wrong ones.
[12:00] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: CTRL + R (in the terminal) then type few first letter -- ie "lshw"
[12:00] <oneandonly> hey guys
[12:00] <oneandonly> i had a problem
[12:00] <oneandonly> same as alot of new ubuntu users
[12:00] <silv3r_m00n> does the synaptic of ubuntu 64bit contain the same software as ubuntu 32bit's synaptic ?
[12:01] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep,  yay! thanks :P
[12:01] <oneandonly> GNU GRUB version 1.97~Beta4 error
[12:01] <Oasa> drboobb : the filesystem of the disk tou want to automount ?
[12:01] <oneandonly> can anyone help with that
[12:01] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: 98% -- Yes.
[12:01] <silv3r_m00n> kewl
[12:01] <oneandonly> i have foollowed many forum links
[12:01] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep,  ay books u recommend on  reading for Ubuntu beginners
[12:01] <mine> how to ln a dir  , it that ln -s Downloads ./Desktop/you
[12:01] <bazhang> oneandonly, thats grub2
[12:01] <mine> right
[12:02] <oneandonly> ok
[12:02] <drbobb> Oasa: I'm talking about the cd/dvd drive, not a hdd filesystem
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: Maybe http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/
[12:02] <oneandonly> how do i get it to boot
[12:02] <oneandonly> ?
[12:02] <oneandonly> like it wont go past the grub promt thing
[12:02] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: It is free too. Otherwise, just mess around with your system everyday.
[12:02] <Oasa> do you mean to say it doesnt mount when you insert a cd/dvd..
[12:02] <drbobb> Oasa: exactly what I mean
[12:02] <bazhang> oneandonly, please dont hit the enter key after two or three words; what is the exact error you get pastebin if over a single line
[12:03] <roykovsky> hey guys, i have a problem with my ati mobility x1300, radeonhd doesn't work well with this card, i have no opengl support (only mesa).. i wish i could play some game sometimes, so I need to have drivers for this. is there anyone who has mobility x1300?
[12:03] <mine> help me . how to ln a dir   . I can't do it  . anyway to see a dir in other hd
[12:03] <VirusTB> kinja-sheep, thats the thing :P i want to mess arrounf but without messing up! I remember back on 8.04 i usedit for a week, (tried to do advance stuff ) and ended up losing my Windows partition with my pictures and music :(
[12:03] <einstein1969> !it
[12:04] <silv3r_m00n> how to upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 32bit to ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[12:04] <kinja-sheep> VirusTB: Heh. What more do you want to know?
[12:04] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, full reinstall
[12:04] <silv3r_m00n> kewl
[12:04] <mtome> CShadowRun
[12:04] <oneandonly> i boot my laptop... i am dual booting between xp and ubuntu 9.10... ubuntu is installed on my D:/ drive... it has work perfectly until yesterday... when i updated files using the update manager... thats when the problem came... i restarted the laptop and after i choose the ubuntu it goes into a command prompt
[12:05] <drbobb> Oasa: this is something messed up in gnome, and it's a problem because I want to copy a disc using brasero, but brasero doesn't realise there's a disk in the drive
[12:05] <oneandonly> the title is GNU GRUB version 1.97~Beta4 error ... and i dont know how to get past it
[12:05] <oneandonly> sorry there is no error in the title.
[12:05] <Rob215> keyring doesn't work properly  For email: when i type the login and password and select Remember Password, Keyring asks for a password And if i enter the system password it reappears
[12:05] <mtome> hello Gurus. Does anyone know how to install the Ralink WLAN Driver on Ubuntu 9.04
[12:06] <Oasa> drbobb : its mounted ?
[12:06] <drbobb> Oasa: I can mount it from the command line, and read its contents, so I'm sure the drive isn't broken
[12:07] <bijou> i have a problem
[12:07] <bijou> synaptic dont't start
[12:07] <bijou> E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:08] <oneandonly> so can anyone help me with this???
[12:08] <oneandonly> i boot my laptop... i am dual booting between xp and ubuntu 9.10... ubuntu is installed on my D:/ drive... it has work perfectly until yesterday... when i updated files using the update manager... thats when the problem came... i restarted the laptop and after i choose the ubuntu it goes into a command prompt
[12:08] <mtome> I need help on installing the Ralink 3090 WLAN Driver on my laptop. Please Help
[12:10] <ivo_> aoneandonly : are you using grub to dual boot ?
[12:10] <Oasa> drbobb : :(
[12:10] <Malkavian> bijou: what happens when you try sudo apt-get update
[12:10] <arand> bijou: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
[12:11] <Oasa> drbobb : Can you paste the content of fstab in your etc folder ?
[12:11] <intok> Anyone know anything about Wubi installs? I've got a box here with a clean install of XP Home SP2 and 9.10 64 bit which I've tried installing 4 times so far and no joy, no other software is installed on the box and it has no yet been connected to the net, why can I not get a grub menu at boot? it goes directly into XP without any prompting at all
[12:11] <drbobb> Oasa: I'm quite sure the fstab is OK
[12:11] <lalith_srivatsa> can any1 help me in upgrading from jaunty to karmic
[12:12] <drbobb> the line that applies to the cdrom is:
[12:12] <drbobb> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[12:12] <mine> intok: you should make sure grub is installed in hd0
[12:12] <intok> when I asked yesterday someone told me to try thins cd /d %SYSTEMROOT% && cd \ && attrib -r -h -a -s boot.ini which did notihng
[12:12] <Rob215> http://i46.tinypic.com/2up331d.png
[12:13] <Oasa> drbobb : you are right. its correct. Dont know why :(
[12:13] <silv3r_m00n> skype and java don't run on 64bit ubuntu ?
[12:13] <mtome> Anyone knows how to install the Ralink 3090 Driver for Ubuntu 9.04 on an msi laptop? I am stuck completely
[12:13] <intok> mine exactly how? live cd boot?
[12:13] <kinja-sheep> !flash64 | silv3r_m00n
[12:13] <mine> yes :
[12:13] <silv3r_m00n> why does this page talk about so many workarounds >> http://tuxradar.com/content/ubuntu-904-32-bit-vs-64-bit-benchmarks    ..... has 64bit lots of issues
[12:13] <drbobb> silv3r_m00n: I don't use skype, but java runs fine
[12:13] <Gesi> anyone can help me on isnstalling ubuntu 9.10 form an usb stick ???????
[12:14] <mine> intok: it seem grub-install sda
[12:14] <icons> hey
[12:14] <drbobb> flash sux no matter which linux version
[12:14] <PT> silv3r_m00n, skype does work as far as I know
[12:14] <fakeer> How do I lock my Ubuntu Wiki homepage? ( it's my home page)
[12:14] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:14] <Oasa> !keyring | Oasa
[12:14] <oneandonly> ivo: i dont know what u mean  by booting with grub
[12:14] <mine>  intok: you better run update-grub
[12:14] <PT> silv3r_m00n, check: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295
[12:15] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: You always can switch if you're experiencing too many issues. Don't let FUD get to you.
[12:15] <ivo_> you use a program that allows you to choose between ubuntu and windows don't you ??
[12:15] <mamy> OerHeks,try to install this sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update but still error
[12:15] <oneandonly> yea
[12:15] <oneandonly> its not a program
[12:15] <oneandonly> its just when i reboot laptop
[12:15] <oneandonly> it goes straight to that
[12:15] <arand> oneandonly: what does this prompt say? is it blank?
[12:15] <silv3r_m00n> FUD ?
[12:16] <oneandonly> sh:grub>
[12:16] <drbobb> Oasa: even when a cdrom is mounted brasero still believes there's no media in the drive
[12:16] <oneandonly> waiting for me to do smething
[12:16] <ivo_> there is a menu that allows you to choose between the 2 OS's ....
[12:16] <oneandonly> yes
[12:16] <ivo_> GRUB, ic
[12:16] <mamy> guys what this output mean
[12:16] <mamy> Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:16] <mamy> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:17] <arand> oneandonly: so grub, the bootloader, has become mismatched
[12:17] <kinja-sheep> mamy: What command did you ran?
[12:17] <ivo_> I have had a lot of problems with GRUB2 (the nubuntu 9.10 version)
[12:17] <oneandonly> i guess... it happened after i updated using update manager... last night
[12:17] <oneandonly> and restart laptop
[12:17] <mamy> i m trying to install skype
[12:17] <Myrtti> mamy: do you have other update/install applications open?
[12:17] <Oasa> !MCM | OAsa
[12:17] <ivo_> you better install another boot-program
[12:17] <ben_q> Hello, I have a problem, after every update my flashplugin is broken so that e.g. youtube-videos appear as white boxes. I uninstall flashplugin-installer and nspluginwrapper and then reinstall flashplugin. but this is going on my nerves to have to do that all the time. Is there any way to fix this permanently?
[12:17] <mamy> nooooo
[12:18] <oneandonly> it happened to me before too... that time i reinstalled ubuntu and installed again.... but i dont want to keep doign that everytime thsi happens
[12:18] <mamy> Myrtti,no application is running
[12:18] <oneandonly> i installed both times using wubi
[12:18] <icons_> tr
[12:19] <ivo_> go and have a look at http://gag.sourceforge.net/index.html
[12:19] <oneandonly> ok
[12:19] <mtome> ivo: Can you help me?
[12:20] <ivo_> don't know, I am only 2 months ubuntu-old
[12:20] <oneandonly> huh ivo what is that?
[12:20] <arand> oneandonly: can you boot inti win?
[12:20] <oneandonly> yessir
[12:20] <oneandonly> i can
[12:20] <silv3r_m00n> what about wine on 64bit ?
[12:21] <mtome> ivo: I have a BIG problem here. My wireless LAN cannot work.
[12:21] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Wine will work. There are ia32-libs as one of the dependencies.
[12:21] <silv3r_m00n> means wine 32bit will run ?
[12:21] <silv3r_m00n> what about wine64bit ?
[12:21] <oneandonly> mtome: did u update hardware drivers?
[12:22] <ivo_> mtome : network-manager ??
[12:22] <drbobb> hey can anyone help me with broken notification of inserted cdrom, I have no idea how this gnome automounting of removable media stuff works
[12:22] <mtome> oneandonly: yes. I have updated drivers
[12:22] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: There are none -- Windows apps are likely to be 32bit.
[12:22] <silv3r_m00n> oh
[12:23] <ivo_> normally NM works "oout-of-the-box", I had one problem-PC though
[12:23] <silv3r_m00n> if I build wine 64bit , will it be able to run 32bit windows apps ?
[12:23] <oneandonly> mtome: i guess u have to setup a wireless network
[12:23] <oneandonly> arand: any help?
[12:23] <mtome> what I am finding hard to do is to install Ralink 3090 WLAN Driver. The instructions there are too hard
[12:23] <aries_mwz> hi. I've some pb. with the php5-imap of karmic koala. I upgrade yesterday from 5.2.6 and some packages still has v5.2.6 and some v5.2.10 . Since this, the php5-imap is not working anymore, i assume because the php's version is 5.2.10. do you know how can i fix, where can i dl php5-imap 5.2.10
[12:23] <Vecnah> silv3r_m00n, yes
[12:23] <ivo_> I installed WICD and now my WIFI works with all the PC's
[12:23] <mtome> oneandonly: http://getsatisfaction.com/jolicloud/topics/ralink_3090_wlan_driver
[12:23] <silv3r_m00n> hmm
[12:23] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[12:23] <itsme19> I lost my Windows 7 operating system while installing Ubuntu 9.10.Please help
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> kinja-sheep: yah reading that
[12:24] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: I have no need for wine (other than installing it once on my mother's machine just to play solitare cards.)
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> why is the 64bit names as amd64 ...........is it more compatible with amd processors ?
[12:24] <Malkavian> itsme19, during install, did you chose to format the whole disk?
[12:24] <silv3r_m00n> kinja-sheep: cool
[12:25] <silv3r_m00n> named*
[12:25] <Oasa> itsme9 : Please type sudo fdisk -l and tell me the result
[12:25] <itsme19> No, I can see Windows drive from ubuntu and even in Grub options
[12:25] <Malkavian> than what's the problem
[12:25] <arand> oneandonly: no idea
[12:25] <itsme19> But when I go to Windows 7 in Grub computer restarts
[12:25] <SwedeMike> silv3r_m00n: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64#AMD64
[12:26] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: Processor. There are 64bits. amd64 is a nice name but if you prefer a real name, it is x86_64
[12:27] <itsme19> Here is the output for fdisk http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m335d93f2
[12:27] <kinja-sheep> silv3r_m00n: This particular section --> http://tinyurl.com/2lgpsm
[12:27] <silv3r_m00n> the how a adm64 ubuntu run on intel i7?
[12:27] <kokozedman> hey guys
[12:27] <kokozedman> is it possible to have Ubuntu installed on a USB HDD?
[12:27] <oneandonly> arand: this si the problem... they have similar problem... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307429&page=4
[12:27] <SwedeMike> silv3r_m00n: read the WHOLE article.
[12:27] <kinja-sheep> !usb | kokozedman
[12:28] <itsme19> Oasa: Here is the output for fdisk http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m335d93f2
[12:28] <kokozedman> ubottu: it's not a question of install, it's a question of running it
[12:28] <kinja-sheep> kokozedman: Yes -- It is possible but why would you want to? You are better off using a usb stick and the usb hdd for media storage.
[12:28] <kokozedman> that is: the Ubuntu running on an external USB HDD
[12:28] <kokozedman> ok, i see
[12:28] <itsme19> Malkavian: But when I go to Windows 7 in Grub computer restarts
[12:29] <Oasa> harsha : Are you sure that its only boot problem and windows 7 still exists in /dev/sda 1 - 3?
[12:29] <kokozedman> what i want to do, is that i have a laptop
[12:29] <drbobb> hello, i need help with fixing automounting of cdroms on the gnome desktop, does anyone have a clue?
[12:29] <kokozedman> it is already filled with Windows
[12:29] <itsme19> Oasa: Yes, I can see the Program files and My documents of Windows 7
[12:30] <kokozedman> kinja-sheep: having an external drive with the Ubuntu will be cool, because I only need to plug it in, and then restart when i need to use Ubuntu
[12:30] <kinja-sheep> kokozedman: I see.
[12:30] <kokozedman> do you have experience on JMicron JM20337?
[12:30] <kokozedman> that is the SATA to USB adapter that i use
[12:31] <kokozedman> that is my main concern, because i'm not sure if Ubuntu has the proper module built-in for that to be used properly at boot time
[12:31] <tonsofpcs> kokozedman: most default setups do
[12:32] <drbobb> kokozedman: usb mass storage is in theory a standard and should work no matter who manufactured your controller
[12:32] <itsme19> Oasa: Windows 7 is in 50 GB partition
[12:32] <Oasa> itsme19 : See if the grub have set the boot directory to windows 7 is
[12:32] <kinja-sheep> kokozedman: USB Stick == USB MassStorage. They are eerily same. If you're following !usb instructions, you can get it to run.
[12:32] <Oasa> correct
[12:32] <tonsofpcs> note that your bios needs to support booting as does your bootloader
[12:32] <drbobb> kokozedman: of course the real world is not that simple ;/
[12:32] <obiwan_> hi, please i need to change my surname in the  pgp key i did with seahorse.  How can i ? i don't find how to
[12:32] <kokozedman> ok, great
[12:32] <itsme19> Oasa: How do I check that?
[12:33] <drbobb> kokozedman: meaning most devices work fine, and a few might not (but those are getting rare and far between)
[12:34] <intok> mine so how exactly can I update grub if I can't get ubuntu to boot from the install? the live cd works fine, just not installing via wubi
[12:34] <itsme19> Oasa: I mean, how do I check which partition Grub loader has considered as my Windows Operating system?
[12:35] <Oasa> Well i have grub 1 installed. (8.04) and i dont know if things are different in karmic. Others will help you
[12:35] <Oasa> !grub2
[12:35] <Oasa> check that link harsha
[12:35] <ravenger> i had installed ubuntu on my new notebook but i am unable to find how to configure my graphic and sound card can any body help out
[12:36] <itsme19> Oasa: ok
[12:36] <arand> oneandonly: might try instructions on last post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353177
[12:36] <Oasa> Itsme19 : check grub.cfg
[12:36] <drbobb> hello I still need some help with gnome, when I insert a cdrom it is no longer being automounted, even though the drive as such works
[12:37] <yurib> hello, is this the place to get help for problems with grub and wubi ?
[12:37] <yurib> cant get ubuntu to load...
[12:37] <yurib> read all the troublehsooting guides and tutorials i could find...
[12:37] <Rob215> what did you do before can't boot
[12:37] <wejick> drbobb, can you manual mount it?
[12:38] <drbobb> wejick: yes
[12:38] <yurib> yesterday i ran the update manager
[12:38] <yurib> apperantly it installed a new version of grub
[12:38] <yurib> now when i choose ubuntu in the boot loader i get to a grub command prompt
[12:38] <Rob215> grub2 probably
[12:38] <drbobb> wejick: I just made an image of a dvd with dd, no errors
[12:38] <wejick> drbobb, i have no idea
[12:39] <Rob215> type ubuntu
[12:39] <qdb> Diskless Image Server =?
[12:39] <Rob215> yurib:  type ubuntu
[12:39] <yurib> itried following a guide to get it to load the kerne or mound something, i not really sure
[12:39] <itsme19> Oasa:  Widnows 7 is "set root=(hd0,1)" according to Grub
[12:39] <wejick> drbobb, coz in my machine is not auto mounted
[12:39] <dox_drum> drbobb, How did you do that of the DVD?
[12:39] <Oasa> check if its right
[12:39] <Rob215> yurib: get the live CD
[12:40] <drbobb> dox_drum: dd if=/dev/sr0 of=somefile.iso bs=64M
[12:40] <mine> intok:what you mean
[12:40] <rinto> #j kawanua
[12:41] <yurib> Rob215: i installed ubuntu using wubi
[12:41] <yurib> does that matter ?
[12:42] <Rob215> yurib: i have wubi too but it doesn't matter
[12:42] <itsme19> Oasa: No its in "dev/sda1"
[12:42] <Rob215> yurib: do you have windows
[12:42] <dox_drum> drbobb, Thank you!
[12:42] <Oasa> itsme19: set that right than thats it  :)
[12:42] <qdb> Diskless Image Server=?
[12:43] <Oasa> i was actually wondering how grub will go wrong in it. I dont think that the problem anyways set it and see if it works
[12:43] <qdb> may be found
[12:43] <itsme19> Oasa: But the file and Online document says, that it grub.cfg should not be edited
[12:43] <Rob215> yurib: press e at the grub menu
[12:43] <ravenger>  i had installed ubuntu on my new notebook but i am unable to find how to configure my graphic and sound card can any body help out
[12:43] <qdb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[12:43] <yurib> Rob215: yes
[12:43] <Rob215> yurib: press e at the grub menu and tell us the text
[12:44] <yurib> unknow command
[12:44] <Oasa> itsme19 : its wont be porblem as win 7 does not load anyways.
[12:44] <yurib> its not the normal grub menu
[12:44] <Oasa> anyways harsh : use windows boot instead of grub
[12:44] <yurib> its some kind of rescue mode
[12:44] <Oasa> chk this out : itsme19: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[12:44] <anders^_> For some unknown reason my nvidia module has decided to stop working. Cant log into X except in failsafe graphics mode atm. When running "sudo modprobe nvidia" it complains about unkown symbol in module or unknown parameter
[12:45] <aries_mwz> bye
[12:45] <Oasa> or try adding it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:45] <itsme19> Oasa: Using Windows loader would erase Ubuntu
[12:45] <yurib> it says "GNU GRUB version 1.97~beta4"
[12:45] <itsme19> Oasa: Grub 2 does not have menu.lst
[12:45] <yurib> something about minimal bash like editing support
[12:45] <anders^_> also for some reason i cant bring up my eth0 device, system complains about SIOCSIFADDR: no such device
[12:45] <anders^_> is my HDD dying or something?
[12:45] <yurib> and just wait for input
[12:46] <Oasa> itsme19 : why is it wrong. the entry was correct only
[12:46] <Rob215> Yurib: always check the ubuntu line for "recovery mode" or something that, select only ubuntu-2.4.1.x.x
[12:46] <yurib> i didnt select anything
[12:46] <yurib> i used to have two menus
[12:46] <Oasa> Hello does any one here uses grub2 ??? Please help itsme19
[12:46] <yurib> first lets me choose between win7 and ubuntu
[12:46] <Rob215> yes
[12:46] <yurib> noce i chose ubuntu it used to let me select the kernel versino
[12:47] <intok> mine how can I check if its installed in HD0 when its been installed inside of windows? I did open up the grub config folder and saw that it was set at timeout 0 and changed it to timeout 9 but with the same results, still no prompt to boot inti ubuntu, just goes directly into XP
[12:47] <yurib> now the second menu is gone
[12:47] <yurib> and all i got is this grub command prompt
[12:47] <Rob215> oh
[12:47] <arand> yurib: it seems like a common problem flying around atm...
[12:47] <itsme19>  No sorry the operating system is in /dev/sda2 and Grub tells it is in /dev/sda1
[12:47] <qdb> "Install a Diskless Image Server". why word "image" is here?
[12:47] <yurib> yea i noticed there are many recent posts in the forums
[12:47] <qdb> is it about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto ?
[12:47] <Oasa> harsh : try win boot loader.
[12:47] <Oasa> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[12:48] <yurib> problem is i have to submit an assignment tonight and all my data is on ubuntu
[12:48] <obiwan_> please, i'm trying to change my surname in my pgp key i made with seahorse. How can i do it?
[12:48] <yurib> i tried reading the image file from windows but couldnt find a tool that could do it
[12:48] <arand> yurib: have you tried somthing like the last post here suggests: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353177
[12:48] <yurib> getting the files is my main concern atm
[12:49] <itsme19> Oasa: does't using Winloader erases Ubuntu i.e I will have to make choice between ubuntu and Windows. Is their a way to keep both OS
[12:49] <theadmin> yurib: What exactly is the problem with Ubuntu?
[12:49] <theadmin> itsme19: GRUB should pick windows up, normally there is no need for Windows loader
[12:49] <arand> obiwan_: afaik, you would have to make a new one for that. My guess.
[12:50] <guest> I am trying to connect my Mobile Broadband USB modem, but device is not able to connect, can anyone help me with this..
[12:50] <arand> yurib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=436923 has two suggestions
[12:50] <itsme19> theadmin: But when I go to Windows 7 in Grub the computer restarts
[12:50] <yurib> i tried it
[12:50] <Talon1364> I just installed ubuntu 9.10, it said i needed to reboot, so i did.. my computer boots windows like grub never installed.
[12:50] <obiwan_> arand my friend told me there's no need, and i really trust my friend, but he left before i needed the change
[12:51] <yurib> every time another step fail
[12:51] <Oasa> itsme19 : Is it like that ? I mean with 8.04, i can uuse win boot loader to boot ubuntu. I dont know what all they changed from grub1. I am waiting for the next LTS 10.4. Untill then i have no knowledge.
[12:51] <arand> yurib: for reading the files off the wubi filesystem that is
[12:51] <yurib> either a file is not found
[12:51] <yurib> or the disk is incorrect
[12:51] <Oasa> Rob215: Dude, Help this itsme19
[12:51] <Talon1364> how do i boot my ubuntu?
[12:51] <Rob215> yurib: try the LIve CD
[12:52] <yurib> Rob215: thats what im going to try next
[12:52] <mine> intok: you mean you intall grub in windows?
[12:52] <guest> I am trying to connect my Mobile Broadband USB modem, but device is not able to connect, can anyone help me with this..
[12:52] <yurib> thanks for the effort everyone
[12:52] <Rob215> yurib: and copy the files
[12:53] <Oasa> ROB215 :  help its e19
[12:53] <Oasa> help itsme19*
[12:53] <j10297116> how to set up NFS
[12:53] <Rob215> el9?
[12:53] <Oasa> itsme19* Rob215
[12:53] <Oasa> he cannot boot windows 7. I dont know anything about grub2
[12:53] <itsme19> Rob215: My computer restarts whenever I select "Widows 7" option in Grub boot loader
[12:53] <mine> you can edit the grub.conf or  maybe grub.cfg   you add one . can you see grub when boot
[12:54] <epinky> !nfs | j10297116
[12:54] <Oasa> mine : I said that. But he is afraid to edit.
[12:54] <j10297116> thanks  a million ubottu.
[12:54] <zvacet> !nfs | i10297116
[12:54] <mine> Oasa: you may tell him just copy one and edit
[12:55] <arand> yurib: you should be able to read files from windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How can I access the Wubi files from Windows? or from a livecd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How can I access my Wubi install and repair my install if it won't boot?
[12:55] <yurib> one more question, suppose i manage to get the files using the live cd and i reinstall ubuntu, how do i prevent this from happening again ?
[12:55] <Rob215> itsme19: At ubuntu option press e and tell us the text
[12:55] <ravenger>  i had installed ubuntu on my new notebook but i am unable to find how to configure my graphic and sound card can any body help out
[12:55] <ravenger> plz some help me
[12:55] <ravenger> please
[12:55] <yurib> arand: i tried the tools they suggested, none was able to read the image file, going to try the live cd
[12:56] <Talon1364> I have a 120gb hdd, it already had windowsXP on it, it only had 60gb partitioned to it, so there was 60gb un-allocated. I installed ubuntu on the continuous free space and it all went smooth, till i rebooted.. no grub, just straight into windows..
[12:56] <epinky> !details | ravenger
[12:56] <theadmin> Hm, why did GNOME suddenly decide to crash?
[12:57] <Rob215>  itsme19: At ubuntu option press e and tell us the text
[12:57] <itsme19> Rob215: I have checked it, this is the exact text that appers when I press 'e' over Windows 7 "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m4db18e75 "
[12:57] <mine> intok: you can also boot  ubuntu by command the same as edit grub.conf  . you shoul know command :root (hd0,0)(where you install ubuntu) and then kernel or linux  vmlinuz and then initrd initrd.lz , and then boot
[12:57] <Talon1364> what did i do wrong? do i haveto re-install?
[12:58] <arand> yurib: I would actually say, don't use wubi. It seems to be much easier to repair a non-wubi install, but that is my *opinion*
[12:58] <Oasa> itsme19 : I Wonder if grub chmode works with 2nd version ?
[12:58] <Rob215>   itsme19: At ubuntu not the windows 7 option press e and tell us the text
[12:58] <yurib> i thought so too
[12:58] <epinky> !grub2 | Talon1364
[12:58] <yurib> gonna try a clean install this time
[12:58] <ravenger> ubottu: i am using the ubuntu 9.10 and the graphic card is hd ati radoen 4500 i am unable to find the repository for the respective drivers
[12:58] <theadmin> arand: Wrong, WUBI is very nice, yet if it's possible to do a clean install, I would do one.
[12:58] <silv3r_m00n> does the intel dg45fc motherboard support inte i7 920 processor ?
[12:59] <mine> who can help me with command ln  , I can't ln -s a dir
[12:59] <bazhang> silv3r_m00n, try in ##hardware
[12:59] <grawity> mine: Give us the exact command you were trying, and the exact error message (if any).
[12:59] <silv3r_m00n> ok
[12:59] <j10297116> I got what i want ,appreciate for what u have done for me.ubottu.
[13:00] <mine>  ln -s Downloads ./Desktop/you
[13:00] <mine> grawity:
[13:00] <arand> theadmin: then how does one reinstall grub4dos when it is unable to read the menu.lst equivalent?
[13:00] <epinky> !ati | ravenger
[13:00] <theadmin> j10297116: eh, ubottu is a bot.
[13:00] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, http://tinyurl.com/ydzcjh6
[13:00] <Rob215> At UBUNTU option press e and tell us the text not Windows 7
[13:00] <Oasa> !itsme19 : try root (hd0,0)
[13:00] <itsme19> Rob215:  Here is the link for both recovery and generic mode of Ubuntu "http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m73d230cd"
[13:00] <Oasa> and setup hd0
[13:00] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, click the top link. view supported processors
[13:00] <mine> grawity:ln -s Downloads ./Desktop/you,it always say can't find Downloads
[13:00] <Oasa> in d chmod of grub
[13:00] <theadmin> arand: There is no grub4dos, huh? WUBI 9.10 uses normal grub2 at least.
[13:01] <kinja-sheep> mine: ln -s /home/mine/Downloads /home/mine/Desktop/you
[13:01] <Talon1364> whole buncha greek to me, guess im just not destined to try linux... lotsa stuff about apt-get and i cant even get on the net cause im wireless, i gotta get this wireless driver into my system somehow that i cant even boot
[13:01] <kinja-sheep> mine: Or you could right-click the folder and "Make Link"
[13:01] <silv3r_m00n> emil_: that page is missing , I checked already
[13:01] <itsme19> Oasa: ok
[13:01] <Oasa> reinstall grub itsme19
[13:02] <Rob215> itsme19: set root=(hd0,5)? are you sure
[13:02] <mine> kinja-sheep: you mean the dir must be /home/mine/Desktop  .
[13:02] <grawity> mine: The thing that makes symlinks confusing is that they don't link to a file or directory - they link to an arbitrary path. Your command links Desktop/you to Desktop/Download.
[13:02] <grawity> mine: Try this: cd Desktop; ln -s ../Dwonloads you
[13:02] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, the list  below says core 2 duo, intel pentium and celeron
[13:02] <mine> grawity: I run it in ~/
[13:02] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, it wont work with a i7
[13:02] <itsme19> Rob215: Yes that's fro Ubuntu and Ubuntu is working fine
[13:03] <silv3r_m00n> the shop owner said it wud
[13:03] <arand> theadmin: ah, ok, well then how does one reinstall grub2 then (I thought it would still be on grub4dos since that's what the documentation seemed to imply)
[13:03] <itsme19> Rob215: Sorry I meant for
[13:03] <Talon1364> i dont even know what went wrong to know where to start on this wiki site
[13:03] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, he lied
[13:03] <drbobb> Oasa: It seems my problem is solved - the automounting problem
[13:03] <emil_> silv3r_m00n, or didnt know what he was talking about
[13:03] <Rob215> itsme19: What's the problem then
[13:03] <Oasa> drbobb : How ?
[13:04] <Oasa> drbobb : Letme know then
[13:04] <Oasa> ROB215 : his partition table is crrct he just want win 7 to work
[13:04] <itsme19> Rob215: My windows is not working after installing Ubuntu 9.10
[13:04] <drbobb> Oasa: looks like I was inserting a dvd in some weird (multisession?) format that the gnome tools don't support
[13:04] <silv3r_m00n> emil_: let me check
[13:04] <Oasa> lol not cdfs format ?
[13:05] <Rob215> is the windows 7 menu with windows 7 and ubuntu working
[13:05] <mine> grawity:thank you but why i can't do it in ~/
[13:05] <Oasa> which format anywats ?
[13:05] <drbobb> Oasa: when I insert some other disk, it works ok
[13:05] <theadmin> arand: Eh, whatever. WUBI is nice for windows installation, but meh, normal installs are ALWAYS better.
[13:05] <Oasa> drbobb : Okay. Nice error.
[13:05] <Talon1364> So, i blew away SuSE for a distro that cant boot
[13:05] <Rob215> itme19: is the windows 7 menu with windows 7 and ubuntu working or just the GRUB menu
[13:06] <Oasa> ROb215 : he can boot ubuntu but no win 7
[13:06] <itsme19> Rob215: I have the entry Windows 7 in Grub2 boot loader, but when I press enter. computer restarts
[13:06] <zvacet> Talon1364:  is still grub problem
[13:06] <arand> itsme19: have tried running a " sudo update-grub " in ubuntu?
[13:06] <grawity> mine: I just explained.
[13:06] <cloudy> hello
[13:06] <theadmin> itsme19: Try running sudo update-grub2
[13:06] <itsme19> arand: Yes
[13:06] <theadmin> Hi, cloudy
[13:07] <cetanhota> what is required to make sure my wifi connects at boot?
[13:07] <Oasa> arand : thats his problem. He have done it
[13:07] <Rob215> itsme19: not GRUB2! windows 7 loader menu
[13:07] <zvacet> ! hi | cloudy
[13:07] <itsme19> theadmin: I tried that one too
[13:07] <Oasa> whats wrong with you rob215 ?
[13:07] <cloudy> hi ,zvacet~~
[13:07] <Talon1364> where did it go? should have got a menu or something? it just goes straight to winxp, no GRUB, no oldschool LILO no nothing just like grub doesnt exist.
[13:07] <drbobb> Oasa: I'm pretty ignorant about cd/dvd formats, but it seems this one has two sessions, one meant for PCs and the other for macs, and gnome gets confused
[13:07] <theadmin> itsme19: Bleh. Sorry, then I've no idea, something must be wrong with Windows.
[13:07] <mine> grawity: you mean we must cd the dir we want to build a ln ?
[13:07] <Oasa> okay drbobb
[13:08] <zvacet> Talon1364:  try to reinstall grub maybe it will help
[13:08] <Rob215> itsme19: not GRUB2! windows 7's bulit in loader menu!
[13:08] <itsme19> theadmin: It was a Windows fresh install and it was't even connected to Internet
[13:08] <zvacet> !grub2 | Talon1364
[13:08] <grawity> mine: Well, you could do 'ln -s ../Downloads Desktop/you' too.
[13:08] <emergion> mla
[13:08] <grawity> mine: The point is, the first argument must be relative to symlink's directory - not to the current one.
[13:08] <Talon1364> it wants me to apt-get for an install method, i cant use the net in linux, i need some proprietary broadcom driver not included on the cd
[13:09] <theadmin> itsme19: No idea actually, but it is Windows' bootloader failing to start. So I don't think it's a Ubuntu/GRUB problem
[13:09] <intok> has anyone here ever installed via wubi?
[13:09] <Rob215> itsme19: not GRUB2! windows 7's bulit in bootloader menu!
[13:09] <itsme19> Rob215: I installed Ubuntu after installing Windows, so Windows loader is replaced by Grub
[13:09] <Rob215> oh
[13:09] <theadmin> intok: I tried it someday, what is the problem
[13:09] <Talon1364> i did the same thing itsme19, but grub dissapeared
[13:09] <mine> grawity: thanks
[13:10] <zvacet> Talon1364:  if you know witch driver you need download it from windows and put on usb and install on ubuntu
[13:10] <itsme19> theadmin: I installed Ubuntu after installing Windows, so Windows loader is replaced by Grub
[13:10] <Rob215> itsme19: It should be the other way round
[13:10] <hearit_> hello, all
[13:10] <Oasa> Rob215 : Thats not the problem
[13:10] <theadmin> itsme19: No, wrong, GRUB will replace windows bootloader in MBR, yes, but if you choose win7 there it will start the bootloader.
[13:10] <Talon1364> i can install those into the live cd version? cause i cant boot my darn installed linux because grub obviously failed.
[13:10] <zvacet> itsme19:  is it working?
[13:10] <mine> :~/Desktop$ ln -s /mnt/winxp/Documents and Settings/mine our .grawity:
[13:10] <Rob215> 0asa: it is!
[13:11] <intok> theadmin clean installed xp machine, have tried 4 times to get ubuntu to boot after wubi claiming it has successfully installed but no joy
[13:11] <Oasa> ROb215 : NO!
[13:11] <itsme19> zvacet: No
[13:11] <theadmin> intok: Does it appear in the menu?
[13:11] <Rob215> 0asa: YES! lol!
[13:11] <mine> grawity: ~/Desktop$ ln -s /mnt/winxp/Documents and Settings/mine our . is it right
[13:12] <zvacet> Talon1364:  did you try to reinstall grub
[13:12] <intok> theadmin start menu yes, at boot it goes directly into windows never shows anything like a grub prompt or anything
[13:12] <Ranakah> hi.. i need ipv6 module in ubuntu 9.11
[13:12] <Ranakah> *9.10
[13:12] <zvacet> itsme19:  you can not boot windows or what
[13:12] <Ranakah> but when i do modprobe ipv6 i get this error
[13:12] <Oasa> Can some one please tell Rob215 that installing ubuntu after win7 is not the problem
[13:13] <theadmin> intok: Oh damn, then it did not install properly. I have some ideas, but it's too noisy here, can we switch into PM?
[13:13] <Ranakah> FATAL: Module ipv6 not found.
[13:13] <Talon1364> how? that wiki you sent me to says its installed by default on 9.10, its got instructions for 9.04
[13:13] <itsme19> zvacet: I cannot boot Windows after installing ubuntu 9.10
[13:13] <zvacet> Oasa:  +1
[13:13] <nastas> itsme19: you mean that boots directly in ubuntu?
[13:14] <intok> theadmin sure
[13:14] <Oasa> zvacet : + 1 means ?
[13:14] <itsme19> nastas: Grub shows the option for Windows 7, when I choose it computer restarts
[13:14] <cvbrg> is there a way to control power to USB ports
[13:14] <zvacet> Oasa:  I agree with you
[13:14] <Oasa> thank you zvacet
[13:14] <Rob215> 0asa: No you don't understand, the GRUB2 menu should be after selecting Ubuntu in the Windows 7 bootloader
[13:15] <arand> itsme19: if windows is a priority you could reinstall the windows bootloader using a win boot disk and then use something like EasyBCD to make instead the windows boot loader boot into ubuntu...
[13:15] <Oasa> Thats what i told you itsme19 at first use other bootloader
[13:15] <Rob215> And Windows 7 bootloader gaves the option Windows 7
[13:15] <zvacet> Rob215:  grub will overwrite win bootloader
[13:16] <cvbrg> USB power control
[13:16] <arand> Rob215: he is not using Wubi here.
[13:16] <itsme19> Oasa: Yes, I think that's the only choice
[13:16] <Rob215> arand: oh
[13:16] <mamy> hey guys how to install this package i m trying to install skpe Depends: libqt4-core (>= 4.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:16] <mamy>          Depends: libqt4-gui (>= 4.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:16] <arand> Rob215: at least t I think not.
[13:17] <Oasa> Rob215 : Understood now ?
[13:17] <Rob215> itsme: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/EasyBCD.shtml
[13:17] <zvacet> mamy:  did you chdck your source list because libqt4-gui should not be problem
[13:17] <Rob215> itsme19: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/EasyBCD.shtml link to Easy BCD
[13:18] <mamy> Zvacet plz how to check the source i m new in command line
[13:18] <elektrikz> hello,just got this error,I dont know what it means,never seen anything like this before. http://pic.mk/images/screen1263475372.png    any thoughts?
[13:18] <cvbrg> anyone on USB power
[13:20] <itsme19> Oasa, arand, Rob215 : Thanks for help guys, I will try Easybcd suggestion
[13:20] <nastas> itsme19: did you check your windows 7 entry? it might be something wrong
[13:20] <zvacet> it should look like http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m48e7f728
[13:21] <incidence> whats the best virtualization software for 2.6 + ultrasparc? (openvz doesn't support sparc anymore :( )
[13:21] <arand> nastas: I think done several times
[13:21] <zvacet> mamy:  type in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:21] <itsme19> nastas: Yes it is wrong, Grub thinks OS is in /dev/sda1 but Windows 7 is in /dev/sda2
[13:21] <mamy> Zvacet thanks
[13:22] <Oasa> itsme19 then just change it
[13:22] <Oasa> why not do that ?
[13:22] <zvacet> mamy:  np  ;)
[13:22] <nastas> so why not to change the entry itsme19?
[13:22] <elektrikz> guys,just got this error,I dont know what it means,never seen anything like this before. http://pic.mk/images/screen1263475372.png    some help? :(
[13:22] <Oasa> he wont do he is afraid :P
[13:22] <Oasa> make a back up and then do itsme19
[13:22] <diddy> How can I find out if and what version of Java is installed on my Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[13:23] <Rob215> itme19: Ubuntu in: /dev/sda2   Windows 7 in: /dev/sda1
[13:23] <grawity> elektrikz: Do you see an URL in that address? Have you tried reading what's written there?
[13:23] <mamy> zvacet,it s open so what is the next to do plz
[13:23] <itsme19> Oasa: ok, I will change it
[13:23] <elektrikz> grawity, tbh no I have not,I'll do it now
[13:23] <elektrikz> :)
[13:24] <Rob215> eletrikz: install manufacters Graphic Card drivers
[13:24] <arand> itsme19: if you are sure w7 is on sda2 then edit the boot entry for win to read (hd0,2) instead, already tried?
[13:24] <zvacet> mamy:  if your source list is same as one I posted you with pastebinthen you should be able to install libqt4-gui
[13:24] <epinky> diddy:"sudo dpkg -l | grep -i java" or jre or jdk instead of 'java'
[13:24] <mamy> Zvacet ok let me try
[13:25] <Rob215> itsme19: w7 is on sda1 then edit the boot entry for win to read (hd0,1)
[13:25] <flebbelep> hi
[13:25] <Rob215> itsme19: ubuntu is on sda2 then edit the boot entry for ubuntu to read (hd0,2)
[13:25] <itsme19> arand: ok, I am taking backup and doing it now
[13:26] <arand> itsme19: editing the boot entry can be done temporarily in grub just when you boot, press 'e' & edit away.
[13:27] <bill_> Winff >> It works fine in gnome, but I can't get it to work in KDE, does anyone else have this problem, and do you know how to fix it?
[13:27] <arand> itsme19: press 'e' over the windows7 entry, of course.
[13:27] <diddy> java --version produces: Unrecognized option: --version
[13:27] <diddy>  However, I have Java installed but all the programs that require Java don't work.
[13:28] <macsim> hi, anybody knows where I can found language pack for thunderbird 3 Shredder 3.0.2pre ? thanks
[13:29] <bill_> @diddy what distro are you usuing
[13:30] <epinky> macsim: have you read this? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Language_packs
[13:30] <diddy> bill_: ubuntu 9.10
[13:30] <diddy> (you are in the Ubuntu channel)
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[13:31] <macsim> epinky, yes but I'm unable to found a valid xpi file
[13:32] <bill_> @diddy>ok...that's weird..I thought Ubuntu 9.10 had Java working out of the box?
[13:32] <mamy> zvacet,i ve checked the source list is the same as in pasterbin
[13:32] <mamy> zvacet,i don t know what is the problem
[13:32] <bill_> @diddy could you paste the url of a specific site that requires java which does not work on your system?
[13:33] <epinky> macsim: hardware platform i686?
[13:34] <diddy> bill_: No I am talking about applications installed on the system
[13:34] <sipior> diddy: does "java -version" report anything? (one dash, not two)
[13:34] <mamy> guys any website for downlaod skype so i can use dkpg instead of apt get
[13:34] <macsim> epinky, yes karmic 32bits
[13:34] <zvacet> mamy:  I found package  at http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libqt4-gui so it should be insynaptic
[13:34] <bill_> @diddy ...ok
[13:34] <diddy> bill_, _: java version "1.6.0_0"
[13:35] <epinky> macsim: check among http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/latest/linux-i686/
[13:35] <epinky> macsim: is it not there?
[13:35] <zvacet> mamy : did you tried to install skype from medibuntu repo
[13:35] <mamy> yes i ve tried but failed
[13:36] <macsim> epinky, I found it but I got this error Français Language Pack 3.0 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Shredder 3.0.2pre.
[13:36] <mamy> Zvacet,i tried from repository but failed
[13:36] <brandon> hi
[13:36] <brandon> hey
[13:37] <brandon> TALK TO ME
[13:37] <kc2> s
[13:37] <brandon> !
[13:37] <brandon> hi
[13:37] <epinky> macsim: il sera mieux si tu poses la question dans #ubuntu-fr
[13:37] <jpds> brandon: Hi.
[13:37] <Pici> brandon: This is a support channel, do you have a question?
[13:37] <kc2> ae
[13:38] <zvacet> see you later I have to go
[13:39] <logankoester> Can anyone tell me how to test udp port forwarding?
[13:39] <mamy> zvacet ok see u
[13:39] <logankoester> Like a program that could listen and a program I could use to connect from a remote host would work
[13:40] <epinky> logankoester: you mean tcp forwarding?
[13:40] <UbuntuN00B> question, if I put a second drive on cable select would the data on it get deleted it was just a drag and drop drive for my old windows xp computer.
[13:40] <theadmin> would running "sudo nano" do any damage to my system? I don't know whether it's fine to run that
[13:40] <macsim> epinky, I did it but nobody seems to know
[13:40] <sipior> logankoester: have a look at netcat. perfect for what you want.
[13:41] <logankoester> thanks
[13:41] <epinky> macsim: ok, what version of thunderbird are you using?
[13:41] <cyto> I can read files from a cd burnt on mac. permissions say -rwx------ 1 501 dialout
[13:41] <cyto> i can read when sudo. why is that?
[13:41] <macsim> epinky, Shredder 3.0.2pre ;)
[13:41] <electron> Is there an easy way to add workspaces? I have 2 but want to increase to 4 or more..
[13:42] <iflema> .quit
[13:42] <cyto> iflema: lol
[13:42] <iflema> mmmm
[13:42] <Pici> electron: Right click on the workspace panel item, there is an option there to modify your properties and you can add more there
[13:42] <electron> lol, that was just too easy to figure out.
[13:42] <epinky> macsim: tried this one? http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/3.0rc2/linux-i686/fr/thunderbird-3.0rc2.tar.bz2
[13:42] <electron> Thanks,.
[13:43] <cyto> sorry i meant i cant*
[13:43] <cyto> I cant read files from a cd burnt on mac. please help.
[13:44] <llutz> cyto: sudo mount -o remount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0
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[13:44] <macsim> epinky, I think I'll try to install it from a proper repertory
[13:44] <macsim> epinky, I think I'll try to install it from a proper repertory
[13:45] <epinky> macsim: ok
[13:45] <kc2__> ae
[13:45] <macsim> btw, to remove mbr I should use dd of=/dev/null if=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1 isn't it ?
[13:46] <loki_666> j #mythtv-users
[13:46] <llutz> macsim: no, of=/dev/sdX if=/dev/zero
[13:48] <lou2`s> How to configure Internet settings in Ubuntu ?
[13:48] <cyto> llutz: It doesnt work. it gives a big message.
[13:49] <epinky> lou2`s: do you mean for browser?
[13:49] <lou2`s> epinky no no..
[13:49] <kc2__> ae
[13:49] <UbuntuN00B> is there a huge benifit from upgrading 9.04 to 9.10?
[13:49] <macsim> llutz, okidoki thanks
[13:50] <defrysk> UbuntuN00B, exept for more recent software nope
[13:52] <defrysk> what the ...?
[13:56] <nundin> hi i want to change the theme of my menus and windows what do i do?
[13:56] <epinky> !themes | nundin
[13:57] <defrysk> nundin, system > preferences > appearance
[13:57] <nundin> thx
[13:57] <epinky> !eyecandy| nundin
[13:57] <epinky> !ping
[13:58] <lou2`s> epinky ?
[13:58] <ricardo> ola
[13:58] <ricardo> ola
[13:58] <epinky> ricardo: go to #ubuntu-es
[13:59] <lou2`s> epinky
[13:59] <lou2`s> Can you help me
[14:00] <lou2`s> ..
[14:00] <epinky> lou2`s: can you give details?
[14:00] <lou2`s> I have ubuntu 8.10 server edition and install DHCP settings failed.I showed me I can not install your MC, SSH server ..
[14:00] <lou2`s> epinky
[14:01] <epinky> lou2`s: do you have a DHCPd server running?
[14:02] <lou2`s> epinky:yes
[14:03] <lou2`s> With a static IP
[14:03] <epinky> lou2`s: is your /etc/init.d/networking configured for dhcp?
[14:03] <nundin> ok my media player will not play any sound what do i do?
[14:04] <KaffeeJunky123> how can I toggle the magnifier? I'm on ubuntu 9.04 and I'm trying to use the gnome magnifier
[14:04] <nundin> and it is not on mute
[14:05] <lou2`s> epinky: In the command install - apt-get install mc write my E: Couldn `t find package mc
[14:05] <lou2`s> [16:04:15] <epinky> lou2`s: is your /etc/init.d/networking configured for dhcp?
[14:05] <blackshell> how do i compile java programs in ubuntu in geany
[14:05] <KaffeeJunky123> nundin: wich media player are you using and wich ubuntu version are you using?
[14:05] <lou2`s> yes
[14:05] <KaffeeJunky123> nundin: does sond work else where on your system?
[14:05] <epinky> lou2`s: is there connectivity to your router and DNS, right?
[14:06] <nundin> the default one that came with the distro
[14:06] <blackshell> anyone knows/
[14:06] <blackshell> ?
[14:06] <nundin> it works for firefox
[14:06] <lou2`s> epinky yes
[14:06] <KaffeeJunky123> nundin: do you get any error message when launching the music player?
[14:06] <epinky> blackshell: gcc-java?
[14:06] <nundin> no
[14:07] <nundin> it said i had to install gstreamer and i did
[14:07] <blackshell> epinky:i installed jav jdk in synaptic
[14:07] <epinky> lou2`s: then have you tried "sudo apt-get update"
[14:07] <progre55> hi guys! how do you check if my comp is 32 or 64 bits on ubuntu?
[14:08] <Supersaiyan_IV> progre55, uname -a
[14:08] <KaffeeJunky123> Supersaiyan_IV: that does only tell him weather his kernel is 64bit or 32bit
[14:09] <progre55> Supersaiyan_IV: thanks, appreciate
[14:09] <OneOneFive> best text editor to learn python on ubuntu?
[14:09] <localhost> progre55: perhaps cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:09] <epinky> blackshell: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/unix.html
[14:10] <erUSUL> progre55: what do you want to know? if your cpu is 64 bits or if you have ubuntu 64 bits installed ?
[14:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> KaffeeJunky123, since you know better then provide the correct command
[14:11] <progre55> erUSUL: just wanted to check if my cpu was 64
[14:11] <epinky> OneOneFive: gedit would work
[14:11] <blackshell> i want to develop in geany
[14:11] <erUSUL> progre55: grep --color ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo
[14:11] <d3x0r> is there a better terminal installed by default than 'terminal' under applications->accessory?
[14:11] <progre55> localhost: I've done that, but not sure which parameter shows it =)
[14:11] <nundin> brb gonna try a restart see if that will do anything
[14:11] <KaffeeJunky123> Supersaiyan_IV: cat /proc/cpinfo should do the trick ;)
[14:11] <erUSUL> progre55: if you see a red lm in the output your cpu is 64 bits
[14:12] <KaffeeJunky123> Supersaiyan_IV: you can tell if your cpu is 32 or 64bit by the name of the processor
[14:12] <erUSUL> d3x0r: better how? faster?
[14:13] <progre55> erUSUL: oh I see, then my cpu is 64, but my ubuntu is 32 then.
[14:13] <hattoricaca1> Supersaiyan_IV, KaffeeJunky123: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[14:13] <erUSUL> progre55: ok
[14:13] <KaffeeJunky123> hattoricaca1: oh yeah my bad I made a typo :O
[14:14] <hattoricaca1> it will show a list of processor flags, if there's a "lm" flag, then the cpu is 64 bits
[14:14] <progre55> thanks guys, appreciate
[14:16] <hattoricaca1> erUSUL: that's a useful trick! (grep --color) didn't know it
[14:17] <erUSUL> hattoricaca1:  ;P
[14:17] <KaffeeJunky123> does anyone know how to toggle the magnifier in ubuntu 9.04? I'm using the magnifier -m command, and I've set a key shortcut to toggle the magnifier with the shortcut config menu, but it doesn't seem to toggle the magnifier :/
[14:20] <recsan> ez csak a véletlen már megyek is
[14:20] <erUSUL> !ck
[14:21] <ravenger> i had installed ATI mobilr radeon drivers as told in the ubuntu forum but after installation i had rebooted now it is showing a blur screen is there remedy for this please help me
[14:21]  * erUSUL calls ubottu out loud
[14:21] <epinky> erUSUL: I think ubottu is gone
[14:21] <erUSUL> epinky: yep :/
[14:21] <ravenger> ubottu:please help me
[14:22] <Pici> erUSUL: yes, we know ;)
[14:22] <Davedan> can I use a debian package on ubuntu? I can't find up to date ubuntu package but I found a debian package http://packages.debian.org/sid/ejabberd
[14:22] <Myrtti> Davedan: mixing distros is in general A Bad Idea ™
[14:22] <erUSUL> Davedan: not a good idea; they are not compatible for the most part ...
[14:22] <Davedan> so what can I do?
[14:23] <airstrike> ™ hahahah
[14:23] <Davedan> building from source is hard to maintain
[14:23] <trijntje> ravenger, fix resolution or Hz?
[14:23] <Davedan> I don't understand why ubuntu waits years until it update packages :)
[14:23] <Davedan> isn't there unstable packages or something?
[14:23] <erUSUL> Davedan: is the new version really needed; i.e. has new features you actually want to use?
[14:23] <ravenger> trijntje: i new bie for the linux so waht is the command
[14:23] <Myrtti> Davedan: updated packages are included in the releases, and releases are released every six months
[14:24] <Davedan> erUSUL: yes
[14:24] <Myrtti> Davedan: ubuntu isn't a rolling release distro
[14:24] <ravenger> trijntje: do i have to do it in the console
[14:24] <trijntje> system->preferences -> screen ;)
[14:24] <erUSUL> Davedan: maybe someone makes packages aviable in a ppa ?
[14:24] <erUSUL> !ppa | Davedan
[14:24] <Davedan> Myrtti: is there a place where the community update packages?
[14:24] <ravenger> trijntje: i logged in now using the live cd
[14:25] <Davedan> erUSUL: is ppa considered safe to use?
[14:25] <Myrtti> Davedan: you can always search launchpad for ppa's, but with the knowledge that you will not get any support from here to software installed from them
[14:25] <ravenger> trijntje: i cant see any thing to change the resolution in gui
[14:25] <Myrtti> Davedan: ie. "on your own discretion and risk"
[14:25] <trijntje> ravenger, thats not your system, just the cd
[14:25] <erUSUL> Davedan: it depends on who mantains that ppa. anyone can make a ppa you only need a launchpad account. so quality varies greatly
[14:25] <tim__b> Anyone familiar with h264 ts streams? Can't find an app to cut and reencode mit dreambox recorded streams... tried latest avidemux (crash), mencoder with h264es demuxer (only video), ffmpeg (cant get ffmpeg to remove the subtitle stream, input stream count vs output count).
[14:26] <lelle> we
[14:26] <ravenger> trijntje: actually i have installed the ubuntu and installed the graphivs drivers from then its happening like that
[14:26] <Davedan> erUSUL: thanks
[14:26] <Davedan> erUSUL: is it hard to make a ppa myself?
[14:26] <erUSUL> Davedan: no problem
[14:27] <etuken> asds
[14:27] <parapan> ?
[14:27] <Davedan> erUSUL: I think that the recent version is not too different in terms of packaging on the source is different
[14:27] <erUSUL> Davedan: dunno i do not do packaging myself ;) maybe in #ubuntu-motu you get better answers to that
[14:27] <Davedan> erUSUL: I mean that the boot script is similar
[14:27] <ravenger> trijntje: so i have to change the resolution using the live cd . that will solve the problem right !
[14:27] <Davedan> erUSUL: ok
[14:27] <trijntje> ravenger, i dont understand, why are you on the live cd?
[14:28] <trijntje> spam^
[14:29] <ravenger> trijntje: because the linux that i have installed is showing just a blur screen through which i can see nothing so to find the remedy i loged the irc using the live cd
[14:29] <ravenger> trijntje: now what shall i do
[14:30] <trijntje> ravenger, what is blurred screen? just hard to read or black?
[14:31] <ravenger> trijntje: not black actually filled with all kinds of colors
[14:31] <trijntje> ravenger, so nothing is visible in fact?
[14:31] <ravenger> trijntje: when a tv goes bad the kind of screen you get
[14:31] <ravenger> trijntje: yes
[14:32] <ravenger> trijntje: is there any solution
[14:32] <ravenger> trijntje:  i am very tensed
[14:32] <Pelo> ravenger, crt or lcd ?
[14:33] <trijntje> ravenger, I think so, but I dont know how to fix that, sorry
[14:33] <ravenger> trijntje: crt
[14:33] <trijntje> Pelo, ^
[14:33] <Chard1> is there a way to get rid of all the entered and exit room notifications
[14:33] <MohammadRRR> Hi is There a Karaoke For Linux ?
[14:33] <Pelo> ravenger, I'm thinking you have the wrong refresh set
[14:33] <AnAnt> Hello, I cannot login from GDM anymore
[14:33] <Pelo> ravenger, read the lable at the back for your monito for  h and v sync
[14:34] <AnAnt> can someone help ?
[14:34] <AnAnt> what log files should I look at ?
[14:34] <ravenger> Pelo:it is a notebook actually
[14:34] <Pelo> ravenger, netbooks do not have crt monitors, they have lcd
[14:34] <nastas> MohammadRRR: do you mean something like this? http://jrharshath.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/how-to-make-karaoke-on-your-ubuntu-box/
[14:34] <danand> Chardl what irc client are you using?
[14:35] <Pelo> AnAnt, sure you did'T have caplocks on ? linux is case sensitive
[14:35] <AnAnt> Pelo: yes, no capslock
[14:35] <Chard1> Pidgen
[14:35] <nastas> AnAnt: do you get an error or something?
[14:35] <Chard1> er Pidgin
[14:35] <AnAnt> nastas: nope
[14:36] <scunizi> Chard1: no wonder.. that's a good IM client but not a good IRC client.. install xchat (not xchat-gnome) or irssi for cli
[14:36] <Chard1> ok tnx
[14:36] <nastas> what is say? wrong pass? just explain exactly what is happening during boot
[14:36] <Pelo> AnAnt, at the bottom of the gdm screen there is a bar with various thingyins on it , depending on your theme, one of them is a selector for the type of session, you might want to try out a few of the shoices,   maybe one of them will work ,
[14:36] <AnAnt> nastas: no problem during
[14:37] <AnAnt> Pelo: ok, will try that
[14:37] <djtoast> Anyone here has a Asus P7P55D-E ?
[14:37] <ravenger1> Pelo: yes it is lcd
[14:37] <ravenger1> Pelo: sorry
[14:38] <epinky> Chard1: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#HowdoIhideallthoseUserenteredtheroomandUserlefttheroommessages
[14:38] <scunizi> djtoast: what's your real question?
[14:38] <Pelo> ravenger1, I don'T know much about lcd problems,  maybe the same type of refresh thing applies but .... did you go and try to set a higher resolution for the netbook ?
[14:38] <AnAnt> Pelo: Failsafe Gnome works. Gnome & xterm fail
[14:38] <danand> Chardl - ok, not too sure then as I use irssi. You can set ignores = ( { mask= "PARTS"; level = "JOINS"; }, {level = "JOINS PARTS QUITS MODES"; channels = ( "#ubuntu" ); } in your irssi.conf file for irssi. You may be abel to do a similar thing with pidgin
[14:39] <Chard1> thanks
[14:39] <AnAnt> so ?
[14:39] <Pelo> AnAnt, well you are half way there then, log out properly and try to log back in to a regular gnome session again
[14:39] <danand> Chard1: or follow epinky's link above :)
[14:39] <ravenger1> Pelo: no Pelo actually i just installed the graphics drivers from the unbuntu forum and the rebooted then i got the screen with all the colors and i cannot see any anything
[14:39] <Myrtti> danand: fiddling with irssi config file is not the best way of doing it, when you can do it from irssi itself, btw
[14:39] <djtoast> scunizi: wondering if im the only one that got a board that emits high piched noises or its realy defective (Ive heard of another guy that had the same)
[14:39] <AnAnt> Pelo: I did try that, but it still fails
[14:40] <AnAnt> Pelo: only failsafe gnome works, and it looks just like the normal Gnome session
[14:40] <Pelo> ravenger1, there you go , wrong driver ,  can you get a console ?
[14:40] <vadi01> guys am using a 3g usd modem which is okay. I just need to know how to find out the signal strenght. Any ideas?
[14:40] <ravenger1> Pelo:yeah i think so
[14:40] <scunizi> djtoast: you're sure it's the board and not a fan or HD ?
[14:40] <Pelo> AnAnt, did you remove anyting by anychance uninstalled some application trying to clean your system up ?
[14:40] <ravenger1> Pelo: what shall i do there
[14:40] <theadmin> !info openssl
[14:41] <Pelo> ravenger1, hold on, I'll get you a the correct command I don't know it by heart I have to look it up
[14:41] <ravenger1> Pelo: do i have undo the installation
[14:41] <ravenger1> Pelo: yeah sure
[14:41] <andresmh> i downloaded and installed linux-headers-2.6.32-020632_2.6.32-020632_all.deb  and then i ran update-grub but it didn't show up in the list of kernels when updating grub, any ideas?
[14:41] <AnAnt> Pelo: nope, except that I booted with an old kernel 2.6.28 before that failure happened
[14:41] <theadmin> uh, ubottu, where are you? o_O
[14:41] <scunizi> !hello
[14:41] <Myrtti> theadmin: the server is being attacked
[14:41] <AnAnt> Pelo: but I did login using 2.6.28 kernel, and it was fine
[14:41] <theadmin> Myrtti: What? By who? O_O
[14:41] <jrib> andresmh: 1) you installed headers 2) why are you even doing that?
[14:41] <llutz> andresmh: why should a kernel appear when installing headerfiles?
[14:42] <Myrtti> theadmin: it's being looked at
[14:42] <Pelo> ravenger1, get to a console and type this command in     sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  hopefully that will reset the driver
[14:42] <ravenger1> Pelo: thank i will try
[14:42] <Pelo> AnAnt, that is most probably part of the problem  do you know if you are booting the old driver or the new one when you are failing to log in ?
[14:42] <llutz> andresmh: linux-image-xxxx is what you need
[14:43] <djtoast> scunizi: its the board.
[14:43] <sergio__> #vasto
[14:43] <djtoast> scunizi: comes from the powerregulators on the board.
[14:43] <neezer> sometimes when I boot into 9.10 after an upgrade my gnome panel freezes up. I don't have any of the short cuts up on the top bar. any way to fix that?
[14:43] <andresmh> jrib, llutz : i want to do it because i have a lot of issues with video performance that i was told could be fixed by a new kernel. I obviously don't know what I am doing. Where would I find the image? I tried searching for a PPA with recent "kernel" but couldn't find one...
[14:43] <AnAnt> Pelo: currently I am booting using the new kernel, so it should be the new driver
[14:44] <AnAnt> Pelo: you mean that when I booted in old kernel, then back to new kernel, I'm not using KMS anymore ?
[14:44] <andresmh> is there a PPA for the latest kernel?
[14:44] <MohammadRRR> Yes But It Does'nt Work
[14:44] <Pelo> AnAnt, , I suggest you log in with that safety session and do sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade ,   then restart , hopefully that will fix it , if not we can look into broken packages
[14:45] <scunizi> djtoast: I'd do a warranty exchange with them.. unless you can just return it.. Asus cust. serv. use to be pretty good
[14:45] <marcos_> Oi, pessoal.
[14:45] <Pelo> AnAnt, you said it worked fine before you booted into an older kernel, I was wondering which kernel you wer booting when you got the login fail
[14:45] <pav5088> Hi...  I'm having a problem with KVM on an AMD64 processor /w 32 bit userspace.  This is a known bug, and I upgraded to Lucid to hopefully fix it, but unfortunately the problem is still there.
[14:46] <marcos_> Queria saber se alguém pode me dar umas dicas para montar uma rádio web
[14:46] <pav5088> Does anyone know any workarounds to this problem?
[14:46] <Pelo> !es | marcos_
[14:46] <Myrtti> marcos_: #ubuntu-es :-)
[14:47] <Pelo> ubottu off line ?
[14:47] <Myrtti> Pelo: yes.
[14:47] <AnAnt> Pelo: it worked fine when I booted with the older kernel indeed, then when I rebooted in new kernel (2.6.31) it failed
[14:48] <Pelo> AnAnt, like I said, get back in with the gnome recovery session thing,  and do the uptade upgrade,  then try to login to a regular session agin, if that doesn'T work , safety session and look for broken packages
[14:48] <djtoast> scunizi: I RMAed it to get another one however now they say the will refund me instead.  Any suggestions on a p55 board?
[14:48] <epinky> !br | marcos_
[14:48] <AnAnt> Pelo: I did update & upgrade, but it only updated rythmbox
[14:49] <Pelo> AnAnt, some dud yesterday had asimilar problem because he uninstalled stuff,  try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop that will reload all the packages that might be missing
[14:49] <dane> does anyone know of any fixes for visualboy advance? It worked fine in Jaunty, but now that I'm on karmic, it freezes every 10-15 minutes.
[14:49] <scunizi> djtoast: the last machine I built I did with a xfs board.. I'm happy but it sure likes to beep on boot.. one for every usb device plugged it.
[14:49] <scunizi> *in
[14:50] <some_guy_at_work> test
[14:50] <onetinsoldier> wow... this because of last night's attack? all these removals?
[14:50] <devunt> ah.
[14:50] <Pici> wait 10000
[14:51] <AnAnt> Pelo: nothing installed
[14:51] <devunt> attack?
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> yesh
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> yeah
[14:51] <Pici> sorry for the mode spam folks, just need to get this done.
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> last night.. this network came under attack
[14:51] <UbuntuN00B> how do I find the info on my graphics card in Ubuntu 9.04?
[14:51] <some_guy_at_work> iframe exploit ftw
[14:51] <Pelo> onetinsoldier, the attack is still going on , it'as automated , when ever anyone click one fo the links it usues their isp to launch another bunch of dcc
[14:51] <Ov3rf10w> UbuntuN00B: ls pci
[14:51] <devunt> ahh.
[14:51] <devunt> iframe dcc?
[14:51] <onetinsoldier> It's still going on!!?! omg... i want to find the sob
[14:52]  * some_guy_at_work nods
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> Pelo: It's still going on!!?! omg... i want to find the sob
[14:52] <Pelo> AnAnt, , that means you weren'T missing a package , that's good at least , now we just need to figure out what's not working
[14:52] <Myrtti> lets move on from talking about it, the more attention we give to it, the more it may motivate the attacker.
[14:52] <Myrtti> back to support issues!
[14:52] <AnAnt> Pelo: I dunno what log file to look at
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> devunt: yep
[14:52] <Pelo> onetinsoldier, #ubuntu just has better floodbots they are helping keeping it down
[14:52] <onetinsoldier> Pelo: cool :-)
[14:52] <devunt> I ignore that.
[14:52] <Pelo> anajo, let me have a look , I'm not sure which one either
[14:52] <UbuntuN00B>                                                          how do I find the info on my graphics card in Ubuntu 9.04?
[14:53] <devunt> lspci
[14:53] <Ov3rf10w> UbuntuN00B: in termina type lspci
[14:53] <Ov3rf10w> terminal*
[14:53] <UbuntuN00B> thank you :)
[14:54] <chris122380> How do I keep Ubuntu from dimming the screen when running on battery?
[14:54] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: for a nice giu check out 'lshw-gtk'
[14:54] <adac> Is ubuntu one open source? Mean the server part/deamon
[14:55] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: oops, gui*
[14:55] <Pelo> AnAnt, you might want to look into  syslog messages auth.log
[14:55] <Pelo> AnAnt, that's the best I can do for you , I have no idea what is going on with your comp
[14:56] <dane> Sorry for the repeat. I think my first question got drowned :( Does anyone know of a fix for VisualBoy Advance? It used to work just fine in Jaunty, but when I upgraded to karmic, it started freezing every 15 minutes of use (ish).
[14:57] <enthdegree> Hoi, for some reason gimp-2.6 won't run after installing gimp 2.7
[14:57] <UbuntuN00B> lshw-gui?
[14:57] <Pelo> dane, we don'T have all the answers, sorry, google and www.ubuntuforums.org are your freinds,  you might also want to look for a visualboy channel
[14:57] <onetinsoldier> dane: hi. do you know if visualboy got upgraded during the dist-upgrade to karmic?
[14:58] <dane> Thanks pelo.
[14:58] <Pelo> enthdegree, that's probably because one replaces the other
[14:58] <Mavrik> Hello.
[14:58] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:58] <dane> I did a completee wipe and fresh install, so I reinstalled vba from the karmic repository.
[14:58] <Mavrik> I have a problem with Karmic: I'm mount home directory at boot over NFS in fstab and if the server isn't available, the boot simply hangs instead of timeouting.
[14:59] <enthdegree> I have run 'apt-get remove --purge gimp gimp-data libgimp-2.0' and gotten rid of the repository, but it still pops open the message: "
[14:59] <petsounds> UbuntuN00B, lspci | grep -i vga
[14:59] <enthdegree> The GIMP binary cannot run with a libgimp version
[14:59] <Mavrik> Any ideas how to prevent the hang and make it mount local homes?
[14:59] <enthdegree> other than its own. This is GIMP 2.6.7, but the
[14:59] <enthdegree> libgimp version is 2.7.0.
[14:59] <onetinsoldier> dane: so, you installed karmic totally fresh and clean? hmmm
[14:59] <AkhlD> hello
[14:59] <AkhlD> i need help
[14:59] <AkhlD> im totally noob to MySql nd ubuntu
[15:00] <epinky> Mavrik: did you considered using NIS ?
[15:00] <AkhlD> i m tryin to install Word Press on my home box
[15:00] <Pelo> enthdegree, the hidden folder for gimp in your /home folder maybe ?
[15:00] <AkhlD> this is the error it shows Error establishing a database connection
[15:00] <APERSON> AkhlD, #ubuntu-server
[15:00] <Mavrik> epinky: NIS?
[15:00] <enthdegree> I have already gotten rid of ~/.gimp*
[15:00] <AkhlD> APERSON, its not server
[15:00] <onetinsoldier> dane: you could to check on whether or not a newer version visualboy is available from source on the internet and try to compile it to see if that fixes the issue
[15:00] <APERSON> AkhlD, but you're running one
[15:00] <AkhlD> Linux akhldz 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:01] <Pelo> enthdegree, maybe the ppl in #gimp-user have a clue
[15:01] <UbuntuN00B> petsounds whats that for?
[15:01] <enthdegree> Ok, I'll try over there. (c:
[15:02] <Pelo> enthdegree, you might also want to try forcing the package version in synaptic
[15:02] <petsounds> UbuntuN00B, to get information about your video card.
[15:02] <pav5088> Is there any way to upgrade a 32bit system to 64bit?  I'm having a problem with a KVM virtualisation bug which is a problem only on a 32bit userspace running on an AMD64 processor.
[15:02] <coolkehon> hi
[15:02] <UbuntuN00B> I type it into terminal?
[15:02] <jpds> pav5088: No, I think reinstall is the only option.
[15:03] <coolkehon> the problem is that i have an encrypted system that needs  kernel command line args so that the kernel knows where the  luks encrypted partition is. but when i do update-grub it  includes the kernels by default in /boot but i need custom  args. also how will grub2 work with dual boot 2 linux  distros that both have grub2 installed ?
[15:03] <petsounds> UbuntuN00B, yes. open a terminal and type                     lspci | grep -i vga
[15:03] <Pici> I'm done for now.  Sorry again.
[15:03] <Pelo> pav5088, you can'T upgrade that way , you need ot reinstall , but it you have your /home on a seperate partiton that should be easy enougth,  you can probabloy also use get-selection to save a list of all your packages for a one command reinstall of your appl afterwards
[15:03] <petsounds> Pici, good job :-)
[15:03] <Pelo> Pici, thank you ...
[15:04] <redspike> hi all, i ahve some problems with my ubuntu 8.04 xen installation. i want to install a ubuntu 9.10 dumU  but what i can read on the net 9.10 request kernel 2.6.31> so can i find kernel 2.6.31 for 8.04 ? need it to start my new 9.10 domus
[15:04] <usr13> I'm trying to uninstall old kernels. I use command: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*  to see what kernels I still have left.  I see linux-image-2.6.20-15 and a couple others but when I try to delete them, I get error:   Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.20-15*  See: http://pastebin.com/faac27c5
[15:04] <pav5088> Pelo and jpds : Thanks for the info...  *sighs*  perhaps I'll just have to bite the bullet.
[15:04] <coolkehon> the problem is that i have an encrypted system that needs  kernel command line args so that the kernel knows where the  luks encrypted partition is. but when i do update-grub it  includes the kernels by default in /boot but i need custom  args. also how will grub2 work with dual boot 2 linux  distros that both have grub2 installed ?
[15:04] <UbuntuN00B> thanks but neither your way or the other guys way told me the actual MB's only the card name.
[15:04] <Pelo> pav5088, you have little choice
[15:06] <epinky> UbuntuN00B: what info do you need?
[15:06] <UbuntuN00B> so do I need to install this "lshw-gtk" for a GUI?
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: have you tried out 'lshw-gtk'?
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> yes.. you need to install it
[15:07] <Threetimes> Hi, I want to buy a laptop with a "Multi Gesture pad". Can I use it in Ubuntu? The laptop is a Packard Bell Easynote TR87 DT-029
[15:07] <APERSON> Threetimes, that's all handled by drivers
[15:07] <UbuntuN00B> kk I have to wait cause Ubuntu is updating like 200+mb's right now lol
[15:07] <onetinsoldier> roger, hehe
[15:08] <Threetimes> APERSON: you're sure it will work? where will it work?
[15:08] <UbuntuN00B> question after updating if I click the upgrade to 9.10 will that affect anything from 9.04?
[15:08] <usr13> Here is what I have http://pastebin.com/f8b7ae05
[15:08] <APERSON> Threetimes, all handled by drivers: ie, the gesture support is limited to the operating system that comes with the laptop
[15:09] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: you're runnning 9.04? i don't think you want to upgrade to 9.10
[15:09] <marcelo> hi, I having problems to connect to the internet. When I click the small network icon on upper right corner there is no eth0 connected is this normal? What is happening?
[15:09] <UbuntuN00B> lol kk, 9.10 that bad huh?
[15:09] <Threetimes> It wil come with Vista, but I'll install ubuntu instead (duh!)
[15:09] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: if you want 9.10, i recommend installing it from scratch
[15:09] <UbuntuN00B> ahh alright
[15:10] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: you're welcome to try an upgrade to it, but it's just that i would recommend an install from scratch
[15:10] <jointman> Nikki Ventura.
[15:10] <Pelo> marcelo, clean install ? i had a similar problem at one point I needed to disable ipv6 in the network comf
[15:10] <UbuntuN00B> funny story is I tried 9.10 from scratch but it kept freezing at 98% so I decided to try 9.04 and it worked
[15:10] <epinky> marcelo: "sudo ifconfig -a" ,is eth0 available?
[15:10] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: ahhh, roger that
[15:11] <UbuntuN00B> so I didn't know if ince I naly got ubuntu on here if trying to go from 9.04 to 9.10 would pose a problem
[15:11] <UbuntuN00B> sorry wireless keyboard didnt pick up some letters lol
[15:12] <IdleOne> !upgrade | UbuntuN00B
[15:12] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: hard to say. how well a dist-upgrades goes, can vary pretty wildy
[15:12] <marcelo> epinky, This is the output http://codepad.org/BHrSULHu
[15:12] <marcelo> Pelo, I do no remember of any error message during installation ...
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: i will say, if you want to try a dist-upgrade, the best time to try it is right after a fresh install of the version below it
[15:13] <UbuntuN00B> maybe I'll swap HDD's and try on a spare first
[15:13] <Threetimes> Hi, I want to buy a laptop with a "Multi Gesture pad". Can I use it in Ubuntu? What gestures will work? The laptop is a Packard Bell Easynote TR87 DT-029
[15:13] <some_guy_at_work> Packard Bell?!
[15:13] <some_guy_at_work> You mean HP
[15:13] <UbuntuN00B> wtf?
[15:13] <Threetimes> some_guy_at_work: I mean Packard Bell
[15:14] <Threetimes> !netsplit
[15:14] <onetinsoldier> looked like a Netpsplit
[15:14] <MASARUwota> yeah
[15:14] <IdleOne> UbuntuN00B: it's a netsplit, nothing to be worried about
[15:14] <UbuntuN00B> I have no idea how irc works lol
[15:14] <Pelo> marcelo, it doesn'T show as a problem during install, it just enables ipv6 and that's a problem when you get to trying to connect,  just go in the network manager thingy look around and if you see ipv6 enabled uncheck it or someting
[15:14] <devunt> I'll go to bad now
[15:14] <sporedi> if one person is fixing my system remotely using ssh  how do i find what command /what he is using
[15:14] <devunt> it's 12:14 am
[15:14] <Pelo> UbuntuN00B, not a good time to learn,  this network is  under attach
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:15] <epinky> marcelo: so, eth0 is there but it's not configured
[15:15] <devunt> bye
[15:15] <onetinsoldier> sporedi: been a long time.. but i think the 'who' command
[15:15] <UbuntuN00B> I know but the lingo of netsplit had me in curiosity haha
[15:15] <sporedi> yes i check with who it only give ip
[15:16] <onetinsoldier> sporedi: try to talk to him... use the 'wall' command, hehe
[15:16] <marcelo> epinky, I do not know how to configure it manually ... could guide me on that?
[15:16] <llutz> sporedi: "w"
[15:16] <ki4cgp> sporedi: who command will tell you who is logged into your system.  You might also be able to get constant updates with the "top" command
[15:16] <Threetimes> Hi, I want to buy a laptop with a "Multi Gesture pad". Can I use it in Ubuntu? What gestures will work? The laptop is a Packard Bell Easynote TR87 DT-029
[15:16] <some_guy_at_work> ...packard bell
[15:16] <UbuntuN00B> this is one irc question I think is good to know cause I have no idea but how do you reply to someone like you reply to me in another color?
[15:17] <epinky> marcelo: sure, you need some info like, ip address default getway and DNS if you need it
[15:17] <Myrtti> UbuntuN00B: prefix the message with their nickname
[15:17] <onetinsoldier> sporedi: ok, maybe it's not the who command. i'll try to keep looking for the command. ask the question again. maybe someone else knows
[15:17] <Myrtti> UbuntuN00B: it's called hilighting someone
[15:17] <Threetimes> some_guy_at_work: I don't care what you think about any brand, so please say something more useful...
[15:17] <IdleOne> UbuntuN00B: strart by typing the first few letters of their name and hit the tab key to complete. that will highlight them
[15:18] <UbuntuN00B> IdleOne Hi
[15:18] <MASARUwota> Threetimes: it wont, as ubuntu doesnt have support for that
[15:18] <UbuntuN00B> that work>
[15:18] <UbuntuN00B> ?
[15:18] <IdleOne> UbuntuN00B: that worked
[15:18] <some_guy_at_work> ok.. Packard Bell is Acer
[15:18] <MASARUwota> Threetimes: also, keybindings are way more usefull then using a mouse :/
[15:18] <UbuntuN00B> oh i figured it would look like it on mine too haha
[15:18] <IdleOne> some_guy_at_work: be helpful please
[15:18] <navatwo> My panels are constantly erroring and wont let me touch them.I do not know the error, but it has something todo with just setting up a dual monitor
[15:18] <Threetimes> MASARUwota: thanks. But multi-gestures are fun (i think...)
[15:19] <MASARUwota> Threetimes: :/
[15:19] <llutz> UbuntuN00B: colors depend on your irc-client
[15:19] <MASARUwota> its a hipster "apple"-ish thing to implement. imo
[15:19] <ki4cgp> Wow, the bot is fast.  K-lined already
[15:19] <marcelo> epinky, I really do not know how to gather this information ... what should I do?
[15:20] <Threetimes> ki4cgp: Why is ozixsrgc k-lined?
[15:20] <Myrtti> Threetimes: spam attack
[15:20] <haresh> hello how to mount my cd rom driver
[15:20] <haresh> ?
[15:20] <UbuntuN00B> llutz I'm on some gogloom.com site
[15:20] <navatwo> My panels are constantly erroring and wont let me touch them.I do not know the error, but it has something todo with just setting up a dual monitor. Restarting gdm and restarting the computer as a whole did not work.
[15:20] <Threetimes> oh... Spam sux
[15:20] <Myrtti> Threetimes: do not click the link it sent to you, or you become a spammer
[15:20] <MASARUwota> navatwo: so its a GNOME problem?
[15:21] <epinky> marcelo: do you have any other operational computer nearby?, if yes get the info from it
[15:21] <navatwo> I think so
[15:21] <Threetimes> Myrtti: sure? I use opera on ubuntu, not IE on windows?!
[15:21] <Myrtti> Threetimes: yes.
[15:21] <epinky> marcelo: are you on Ubuntu at this moment?
[15:21] <APERSON> It doesn't matter the browser
[15:21] <marcelo> epinky, no I do not. unfortunately.
[15:21] <marcelo> epinky, yes
[15:21] <ki4cgp> Myrtti, That is good advice pretty much anywhere
[15:22] <Threetimes> And i didn't see any link, but how should this link work?
[15:22] <MASARUwota> (opera..)
[15:22] <APERSON> if you click the link, you are at risk to getting k-lined
[15:22] <APERSON> s/to/of
[15:22] <epinky> marcelo: so I suppose eth1 is the interface plugged, right?
[15:22] <AnAnt> Pelo: thanks, will look into those
[15:22] <marcelo> epinky, yes
[15:22] <Norse_Nemo> noob question, what is K-lined?
[15:22] <Myrtti> Norse_Nemo: banned from the whole network
[15:22] <APERSON> a ban from the server
[15:22] <Norse_Nemo> not good
[15:23] <haresh> hello how to mount my cd rom drive
[15:23] <navatwo> My panels are constantly erroring and wont let me touch them.I do not know the error, but it has something todo with just setting up a dual monitor. Restarting gdm and restarting the computer as a whole did not work.
[15:23] <MASARUwota> haresh: it should do it automaticly
[15:23] <Norse_Nemo> haresh: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:23] <UbuntuN00B> can't you get around a ban with a proxy or ip changer?
[15:23] <sporedi> if one person is fixing my system remotely using ssh  how do i find what command /what he is using  who w doesnt show what he is doing
[15:23] <MASARUwota> navatwo: how about reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[15:23] <haresh> the leatest
[15:24] <haresh> but when i clikc on my cd rom drive it dose not shows
[15:24] <Myrtti> UbuntuN00B: that's a topic I'd rather not see discussed here
[15:24] <marcelo> epinky, I have just installed 9.10 it worked just fine with 9.04
[15:24] <epinky> marcelo:  then just plug the other interface and you'll have eth0 configured, you'll lose connection one moment, eth0 will replace eth1
[15:24] <CAPcap> ok so im new to irc... i cant figure out how to register on freenode... i cant tell where im supposed to do this stuff.... can anyone explain it? i feel like an idiot. im also new to ubuntu which doesnt help T_T
[15:24] <IdleOne> UbuntuN00B: yes, but that is against the freenode rules and wrong
[15:24] <Norse_Nemo> haresh: it should show up in the places menu
[15:24] <llutz> sporedi: always use a shared screen session for such things. never let anyone work on your computer you don't know/trust
[15:24] <haresh> di know
[15:24] <Myrtti> CAPcap: /msg nickserv help register
[15:24] <haresh> but when i clikc on it it dose not open and give a error saying that its not mounted
[15:24] <CAPcap> do i type that?
[15:25] <MASARUwota> CAPcap: yes
[15:25] <IdleOne> CAPcap: yes
[15:25] <epinky> marcelo: unplug eth1 and plug the other interface
[15:25] <Norse_Nemo> haresh: is there somthing unusual about the CD?
[15:25] <CAPcap> where :(
[15:25] <Pici> CAPcap: Please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup   further regustration help is available in #freenode
[15:25] <IdleOne> CAPcap: best would be in the Server tab of your client
[15:25] <Ziber> when i do dist-upgrade, is it normal for "updating man" to take a very long time?
[15:25] <haresh> nope
[15:25] <Norse_Nemo> haresh: have you tried other CDs?
[15:25] <onetinsoldier> Ziber: that can be normal.. yes. how long is it taking?
[15:26] <Ziber> onetinsoldier: so far about 10 mins
[15:26] <haresh> yeah
[15:26] <haresh> tis the same
[15:26] <onetinsoldier> Ziber: roger... that's quite a while. i'd be starting to wonder too
[15:27] <Ziber> onetinsoldier: kinda dont want to ctrl+c it, but at the same time... its a bit strange
[15:27] <IdleOne> Ziber: wait another 10 minutes, give it a chance, you don't want to stop a dist-upgrade mid process.
[15:27] <marcelo> epinky, sorry, but I do not know how to do it . But it must be plugged , I was using the pc yesterday normally, I did not unplugged anything ...
[15:27] <onetinsoldier> Ziber: what IdleOne said.. give it some more time before interrupting it
[15:27] <Ziber> IdleOne: yeah, okay
[15:28] <ravenger> Pelo: i is not working
[15:29] <epinky> marcelo: working with eth1 will be just fine, don't worry about eth0
[15:29] <ravenger> Pelo: is there anyother alternative
[15:29] <haresh> hello help me ps
[15:29] <UbuntuN00B> I'm at a DOS looking screen and it like failed to load up and it says (initramfs) _
[15:29] <IdleOne> haresh: help with what?
[15:29] <haresh> mount my cd rom drive
[15:29] <Pelo> ravenger, you can try and remove the driver you installed , but I don'T know what proceedure you should follow, sorry,
[15:30] <Pelo> ravenger, maybe you should look in to a way to reset your netbook to it's facory settings
[15:30] <marcelo> epinky, well I would like to fix this .
[15:30] <ravenger> Pelo: the other os vista is working fine
[15:30] <ravenger> Pelo: except the linux
[15:30] <Pelo> ravenger, reinstall linux then ,
[15:31] <Pelo> ravenger, it's not an elegant solution but it will work
[15:31] <Franoculator> on 9.10, where would I place a script that I want to run when I suspend to RAM?
[15:31] <H2Nut> hello
[15:32] <Pelo> later folks
[15:32] <epinky> marcelo: "sudo lspci -v"
[15:32] <ravenger> Pelo: by installing the linux again will the data get lost
[15:32] <UbuntuN00B> I have a big problem
[15:32] <jerico> Is there a command line program for backing up to a USB drive or should I look into creating a shell script?
[15:33] <ravenger> pelo:i have some data important on that partition
[15:33] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: whats up
[15:33] <alz3abi> j #linuxac
[15:33] <alz3abi> join #linuxac
[15:33] <marcelo> epinky, http://codepad.org/4J6Hejsh
[15:33] <UbuntuN00B> I tried to update everything for Ubuntu 9.04 and it froze with just a sliver left so I coldbooted the computer
[15:34] <ebannister> can anyone tell me the best way to learn BASH scripting?
[15:34] <UbuntuN00B> Norse_Nemo now after it tries to load from HDD and gets past the Ubuntu splash screen Im pressented with busybox
[15:34] <arvind_khadri> !bash | ebannister
[15:35] <Franoculator> ebannister: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[15:35] <arvind_khadri> !test
[15:35] <ebannister> great! thanks!  I'll give it a try!
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> ebannister: there's probably a lot of tutorials on the net. there's the room #bash on many irc networks. a good book by Wrox is 'Begininng Linux Programming'
[15:35] <erUSUL> ebannister: /j #bash see topic ?
[15:35] <llutz> jerico: sudo tar --one-file-system cf /media/usbstick/backup-$(date +'%Y%M%d').tar /etc /home
[15:36] <jerico> llutz: Thanks!
[15:36] <UbuntuN00B> Norse_Nemo I think the failed update corrupted my Ubuntu now it wont load and Im stuck in BusyBox
[15:36] <epinky> marcelo: you have 2 Gigabit Ethernet controllers
[15:36] <llutz> jerico: "-cf" missed the -
[15:36] <jerico> llutz: k
[15:37] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: gimme one sec you may have missed an important package
[15:37] <UbuntuN00B> kk
[15:37] <epinky> marcelo: if you want to fix then  then unplug your current connection(the cable) and connect the cable to the other interface, just that, you'll lose connection one moment, but you'll be online after a seconds
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: so, you freeze on trying to install 9.10.. right? now your system froze when trying to update 9.04 after it was freshly installed? is that right? if i were you.. i'd run Memtest on your system
[15:38] <Ffunk74> Hi there! I have a little problem (all work fine for some months): When I login via gdm X server reboots, it takes 2-3 times to login without rebooting. I use Xubuntu 9.10, nVidia 7600 card with proprietary driver. Here is my Xorg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/356619/
[15:38] <UbuntuN00B> no didn't update to 9.10 just updated major updates it was like 200+mb's
[15:39] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: ok, so you've never tried to install 9.10?
[15:39] <UbuntuN00B> nope
[15:39] <onetinsoldier> roger
[15:39] <Ziber> still just sitting there... and i gotta go. bbl.
[15:39] <jac0> havin problems with ma bluetooth...its kinda nat paring wit ma phone..i did a lil digging and it need sumn like passkey agent..help how do i get it workin?
[15:40] <navatwo> anyone know what applet has the logout user switch shutdown and stuff in gnome?
[15:40] <navatwo> Mines disappeared.
[15:40] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: earlier, i thought you said your system froze when you tried to install 9.10, therefore, you decided to go with 9.04
[15:40] <grawity> navatwo: "Fast user switch"?
[15:40] <navatwo> great..
[15:40] <navatwo> its been uninstalled
[15:41] <jac0> havin problems with ma bluetooth...its kinda nat paring wit ma phone..i did a lil digging and it need sumn like passkey agent..help how do i get it workin?
[15:41] <H2Nut> Hi, anybody got Wammu working with Nokia 5800 ?
[15:41] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: can you get to a separate terminal CTRL+ALT+F2 when you are stuck in the Bsuy Box?
[15:41] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier yes and then I tried to install updates like safy updates and such and it froze durring installing the updates right at the end of updating
[15:41] <UbuntuN00B> let me try
[15:42] <Myrtti> H2Nut: in general phones >s60v2 do not work with it
[15:42] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier now it brought me to a single blinking line the underscore line
[15:42] <haresh> why after installing any windows stuff it will be laggy to open the menu
[15:43] <saml> hey, where is windows shared folders mounted?
[15:43] <navatwo> i've lost fast-user-switch-applet, anyone know how to get it back? Its not in the repos
[15:43] <jac0> havin problems with ma bluetooth...its kinda nat paring wit ma phone..i did a lil digging and it need sumn like passkey agent..help how do i get it workin?
[15:43] <saml> I see an icon in Desktop.. but ls ~/Desktop   is empty
[15:43] <erUSUL> saml: ~/.gvfs/
[15:43] <saml> erUSUL, ah thanks
[15:43] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: try CTRL+ALT+F3 and press enter
[15:43] <H2Nut> Thanks Myrtti!
[15:44] <H2Nut> any workarounds/other apps?
[15:44] <UbuntuN00B> Norse_Nemo one second I need to restart again.
[15:44] <Myrtti> H2Nut: depending on what do you want to do with wammu. There's some tools one can install in the phone, some tools that might work in Ubuntu etc.
[15:45] <marcelo_> epinky, It wasn't able to stabilish a connection on eth0 some came back to eth1, if it is not a problem at all I will keep it this way.
[15:45] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: np let me know when you are ready
[15:45] <jac0> anyone who can sort out ma bluetooth device issue?
[15:45] <papul> what is the command to change workspaces on fluxbox?
[15:46] <UbuntuN00B> Norse_Nemo nope brings me to the same blank screen with one blinking line
[15:46] <arvind_khadri> jac0, if you ask
[15:46] <H2Nut> Myrtti: ok thanks.
[15:46] <maco> papul: i think it's alt with numbers
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: if you are having freeze issues when trying to install linux, especially in two different versions of Ubuntu(9.04 and 9.10), then i think you should run Memtest86+ to test your system for stability
[15:46] <Akkernight> Why do my Visual Effects in Apperance default to none?
[15:46] <maco> papul: like alt+1 for workspace 1, alt+2 for workspace 2
[15:46] <epinky> marcelo_: have you ever(before upgrade) configured IP's, default gateway and other stuff ?
[15:46] <INV4D5R> all hi
[15:47] <marcelo_> epinky, no, never. I have no background on this stuff ...
[15:47] <onetinsoldier> Akkernight: weak video card? old system? perhaps you need a proprietary driver for your vid card if it's not old and weak
[15:47] <Norse_Nemo> ubuntun00b: sry if I cant get you to a terminal, its above my level. Your best bet is to reinstall
[15:47] <papul> maco, doesnt work
[15:47] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier how do I do that if I can't even log onto Ubuntu?
[15:47] <arvind_khadri> jac0, please dont pm, ask here, there will be someone who can help you
[15:47] <UbuntuN00B> kk
[15:47] <Akkernight> onetinsoldier, No I can set the Visual Effects to high, but everytime I start it's back on none
[15:47] <maco> papul: try ctrl or super (windows, apple, sun's diamond, whatever) then, maybe?
[15:47] <papul> jac0, whats ur prob man?
[15:48] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: when you fire up the Installer CD, there's an option to run Memtest before installing
[15:48] <epinky> marcelo_: then I suppose you've got those addresses on eth1 from some DHCP? do you have a DHCP server/router?
[15:48] <onetinsoldier> Akkernight: oh, roger. hmmm, i don't know
[15:48] <jac0> papul, am havin a problem pairing up with ma phone..
[15:48] <INV4D5R> someone we can discover the password for that e-mail me??
[15:48] <INV4D5R><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:48] <INV4D5R> if someone can let me know
[15:48] <alz3abi> any body can help with this please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380965
[15:48] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: I have had a similar problem, it turns out compiz was overiding that setting
[15:49] <Akkernight> Norse_Nemo, how do I fix that?
[15:49] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier kk let me look
[15:49] <jac0> papul, i did a lil digging and found out that it needs a passkey-agent how do i compile it..am rily stuck..
[15:49] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: either use compiz to use desktop twaeking or uninstall it, I recommend using compiz
[15:50] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: youll want to install the settings manager for compiz though
[15:50] <Akkernight> Norse_Nemo, compiz is that desktop cube thing isn't it?
[15:50] <marcelo_> epinky, no, after installing ubuntu yesterday I just installed apache server mysql and some other packages that I suppose have nothing to do with this issue ...
[15:50] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: yeas it is, but it does alot more and is highly customizable
[15:50] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier its running the test right now
[15:51] <epinky> marcelo_: yesterday you had eth0 working?
[15:51] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: roger
[15:51] <jac0> anyone who knows how to workaround with passkey-agents....
[15:51] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: let it run a while. like 20-30 minutes
[15:51] <BlessJah> no sound input, ubuntu 9.04, audio card - nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] High Definition Audio
[15:52] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier yeah I noticed its taking a while
[15:52] <marcelo_> epinky, I do not remember, but when I was using 9.04 I had eth0 working ...
[15:52] <Otacon22> How can i check the expire time of a CA certificate?
[15:52] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: if you want to use compiz you will want to install python-compizconfig
[15:53] <obiwan_> ay guys, 1 ques: how can i remove a name off keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[15:53] <brokendisk> hello, is anybody familiar with ddrescue?
[15:54] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: I am a little
[15:54] <brokendisk> i am trying to restore my disk in two runs. after i read the manpage i think i will first try: ddrescue -n /dev/old_disk /dev/new_disk /mnt/usb-stick/rescued.log  -- second: ddrescue -r -1 /dev/old_disk /dev/new_disk /mnt/usb-stick/rescued.log
[15:54] <brokendisk> is this reasonable?
[15:54] <epinky> marcelo_: then don't worry, eth1 is fully operational, using eth0 or eth1 is indifferent
[15:55] <marcelo_> epinky, Ok, I am grateful for your help.
[15:55] <epinky> marcelo: you're welcome :)
[15:56] <brokendisk> and how could i create fat partition on my usb stick? fdisk doesn't seem to offer a choice and always creates "linux" partitions
[15:56] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: looks about right but If i remember corectly you can just us -nr rather then -n then -r
[15:56] <brokendisk> i put an usb stick in and there were like 20 paritions on it, all broken, although it worked on a windows machine, sort of strange
[15:56] <areay> is there a way of getting rid of the user selection at login in karmic?
[15:56] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: use cfdisk
[15:56] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldierI've been up for so long yawnnn, I'm afraid I'll crash before I finish this but worried if I'd get such good help later lol
[15:57] <brokendisk> Norse_Nemo: but i want two runs, first save the good things fast, then try the hard parts thoroughly
[15:57] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: lol
[15:57] <brokendisk> Norse_Nemo: ok thanks, what does the c stand for?
[15:57] <Akkernight> what to type in terminal to open up compizconfig-settings-manager?
[15:57] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: c for certainly something I dont know
[15:57] <brokendisk> :)
[15:58] <guitar-maniac> Hello! i have a problem with Java, i cant get the command import java.util.Scanner working.. says it cannot be resolved..? my Java is on version 1.6..
[15:58] <onetinsoldier> Akkernight: try to find it with the following command --> dpkg -L compizconfig-settings-manager | grep bin
[15:58] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier what exactly is the difference between Ubuntu and Linux?
[15:58] <Petein> hi. i have ubuntu 9.10 and i had win vista before upgrading to win 7. the boot loader is gone. how can i bring it back?
[15:59] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: Linux is a generic term. Ubuntu is a specific distributions. there are 'many' different distribution(distro's).
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> Ubuntu is a specific distribution*.
[16:00] <brokendisk> hey how can i create a fat partition on an usb stick
[16:00] <jac0> jeeez am rily stuck anyone who can help me out...tryna to pair up wit ma phone...how do i get passkey-agent workin...help :-(
[16:00] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: cfdisk not working?
[16:00] <brokendisk> Norse_Nemo: no :(
[16:00] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier the GUI or structur the same?
[16:00] <BlessJah> brokendisk: gparted
[16:00] <llutz> brokendisk: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXY
[16:01] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: are you using 9.10 or 9.4 and do you have gnome?
[16:01] <brokendisk> llutz: it will transform any partition to fat?
[16:01] <llutz> nope
[16:01] <jac0> jeeez am rily stuck anyone who can help me out...tryna pair up wit ma phone...how do i get passkey-agent workin...help :-(
[16:01] <brokendisk> Norse_Nemo: i am using scommnd line mode
[16:01] <llutz> brokendisk: it just will create a vfat fs
[16:01] <BlessJah> input not working on 9.04 (nVidia MCP78S, geforce 8200 High Definition Audio)
[16:01] <Akkernight> ok, I turned on the desktop cube effect, how do I try it?
[16:02] <brokendisk> llutz: is that exactlyu what i want?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Akkernight, alt+f11
[16:02] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight: it depends on what keys are bond to it
[16:02] <BlessJah> Akkernight: check keys in compiz settings
[16:02] <Norse_Nemo> akkernight mine are CTRL+ALT+Drag mouse click
[16:02] <jac0> jeeez am rily stuck anyone who can help me out...tryna pair up wit ma phone...how do i get passkey-agent workin...help :-(
[16:02] <llutz> brokendisk: in dos/windows-terms spoken: format an usb-stick, yes
[16:03] <brokendisk> llutz: and why is the formerly perfect disk recoganized with countless broken partitions?
[16:03] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: i would say that no one runs just 'Linux'... you need to download and install a 'distro'. however, it wouldn't be true to say that, because you can install LFS, Linux From Scratch. LFS is not a distro. you don't download pre-compiled packages all packaged up in a package manager format. instead, you download the source code for everything and compile from source, for everything
[16:03] <brokendisk> the usb stick*
[16:03] <BluesKaj> oops Akkernight if you use desktop effects , it's ctrl+f11
[16:03] <jac0> jeeez am rily stuck anyone who can help me out...tryna pair up wit ma phone...how do i get passkey-agent workin...help :-(
[16:03] <llutz> brokendisk: has it been in superfloppy format (no partitions at all, fdisk shows 4 corrupted partitions)?
[16:03] <djtoast> Hi, was wondering is NVIDIA still has the best linux support or ATI is in the game now?
[16:04] <Akkernight> BluesKaj, nothing happens. BlessJah can't find anything with keys
[16:04] <Norse_Nemo> djtoast: Nvidia still has the edge
[16:04] <brokendisk> llutz: it was one working partition before, not sure what, fat probably
[16:04] <jac0> o.k then...
[16:04] <Cyberthunder> i think nvidia, i dont have infos that ati support linux
[16:04] <genii> djtoast: I agree with Norse_Nemo on the Nvidia
[16:04] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier sounds complicated Ubuntu seems like its probably more user freindly esspecialy for a person who only knows PC's and very well might I add :)
[16:04] <llutz> brokendisk: and, what have you done with it?
[16:04] <brokendisk> fat32
[16:04] <BluesKaj> djtoast, I have nvidia , but there are some probs that ati isn't having
[16:04] <djtoast> I read that they have support for linux in their drivers now.. so i was wondering..
[16:04] <brokendisk> llutz: just put it in and fdisk -l and countless errrors and strange partition errors
[16:05] <Norse_Nemo> djtoast: they do but Nvidia keeps theirs more feaue rich and up 2 date
[16:05] <brokendisk> just a sec, will format it with the windows machine to fat
[16:05] <djtoast> I c.. so ATI wouldnt have more features..
[16:05] <llutz> brokendisk: are you sure there was a partition before? superfloppy uses the whole device, that works too
[16:06] <brokendisk> i dont know what superfloppy is, doubt it was used
[16:06] <Norse_Nemo> djtoast depends on a lot of things, mostly the card you are using, but If I was to buy top o the line for a linux box I would go with vidia
[16:06] <llutz> brokendisk: windows uses it for removable-media
[16:06] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: yes, LFS is somewhat complicated. to get it installed, you need a linux installation first! which really means that you have to choose a linux distro and install it to even begin to get started with LFS.
[16:06] <Norse_Nemo> brokendisk: SuperFloppy = 120 mb floppy drive
[16:07] <llutz> Norse_Nemo: wrong
[16:07] <brokendisk> i think it was fat or fat32
[16:07] <Norse_Nemo> llutz: really?
[16:07] <genii> brokendisk: Superfloppy was a disk that could take regular 1.44 but also 120Mb discs
[16:07] <brokendisk> would it display as "superfloppy" in the windows dialog?
[16:07] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier lol sounds like back peddleing
[16:07] <brokendisk> genii: i doubt it is that...
[16:07] <llutz> brokendisk: nope
[16:07] <brokendisk> llutz: but as?
[16:08] <llutz> brokendisk: you won't see any difference to partitioned media
[16:08] <brokendisk> anyway, formatted it as fat now, lets see
[16:08] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: not really. LFS is as bleeding edge as you can get.
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: so no errors yet from memtest?
[16:10] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier I didn't mean dumbing down I just meant the meathod to install it seems like you need to install something before you install it then I take it uninstall the original to just have LFS in the end.
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: roger. yeah, it is in that sense
[16:10] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier 47% and no errors so far
[16:10] <brokendisk> wow this is sick. again: "this does not look like a partition table, are you sure you selected the correct device?" and then spits like 20 partitions with unknown file systsems and errors
[16:10] <llutz> Norse_Nemo: genii what you mean is "superdisk", super floppy format is just another way to use media without creating partitions
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: roger. sorry you are having freezing issues. how new is your system?
[16:11] <brokendisk> will try a different stick maybe
[16:11] <Norse_Nemo> llutz: gotcha, thanks for the clear up
[16:11] <tawd> so i downloaded google chrome for ubuntu 9.10 64, and i went to the facebook game restaurant city, and a minute later my 2gigs of ram were full and so was my 1gig of swap.  anyone else had any similar experience?
[16:11] <genii> llutz: Ah, yes
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: roger. sorry you are having freezing issues. how new is your system?
[16:12] <dux> Hallo,ich hab da mal eine Frage! Mein Bildschirm flackert.Woran liegt das?
[16:12] <llutz> !de | dux
[16:12] <Pici> !de | dux
[16:12] <Pici> dux: #ubuntu-de
[16:12] <dux> ok thanks
[16:12] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier not very thats why I wanted to play around with it and get rid of Windows on it not to mention I don't think the windows on it was legal to begin with so this was a good alternative. its an AMD 2400 and has 512mb Ram and an ATI 9550 GPU.
[16:12] <BlessJah> Akkernight: /2
[16:13] <BlessJah> sry
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: roger
[16:13] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier I'm pretty sure I meat the requirments.
[16:13] <maco> UbuntuN00B: but do you fish the requirements? *ducks*
[16:13] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier I mean it was working at one point lol
[16:14] <UbuntuN00B> maco lol huh?
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: yeah, you should be fine. i don't know why you'd be having freezing up issues. that usually is indicative of a hardware issue though
[16:14] <areay> is there a way of getting rid of the user selection at login in karmic? so you type the username i mean...
[16:14] <Yanick_> hi. I just tried to change my Ubuntu server 9.10 network settings from DHCP to static, and no the server won,t boot. It's stuck at "init: network-interface (eth0) post-stop process (662) terminated with status 1" ... same thing in recovery mode... how can I boot my server and fix this?
[16:15] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier well it might be the same reason windows was freezing as well :/
[16:15] <mtaftm> Hey guys i need help x] my java is playing up :/
[16:15] <maco> UbuntuN00B: was a joke since you said "meat"
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: yep. i'm sure it is
[16:15] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier I'm just trying to salvage the PC and not spend anything on it.
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> UbuntuN00B: i have to leave for several minutes. be back after a bit... good luck
[16:16] <Yanick_> anyone?
[16:16] <UbuntuN00B> maco lol yeah "meat"
[16:16] <mtaftm> Can anyone help me with java :/
[16:16] <rougedemon> Yanick_: Can you boot from a CD and edit the /etc/network/interfaces files manually?
[16:16] <UbuntuN00B> onetinsoldier kk thanks
[16:16] <defrysk> areay, gdmsetup
[16:16] <Norse_Nemo> yanick: did you modify the internface script yourself?
[16:17] <Yanick_> rougedemon, I hoped you wouldn't say that :)
[16:17] <Yanick_> alright
[16:17] <Yanick_> Norse_Nemo, ya
[16:18] <Yanick_> Norse_Nemo, is there a tool to do that for me?
[16:18] <Norse_Nemo> yanick: yeah one sec
[16:18] <Norse_Nemo> yanick: you are running server correct?
[16:19] <llutz> Yanick_: nano/vi is the tool of choice for that
[16:19] <mtaftm> Can anyone help ?!?!?!?!
[16:19] <Yanick_> Norse_Nemo, yes
[16:19] <Yanick_> Norse_Nemo, that's what I said :)
[16:20] <Gnea> !java | mtaftm
[16:20] <Yanick_> llutz, heh. yes. indeed, and this is why I'm in trouble right now
[16:20] <abe3k> hi guys, is there any way of returning only the current IP address for the running machine from the terminal ?
[16:20] <Norse_Nemo> yanick: network-admin
[16:20] <mtaftm> Gnea: yeh i go on this chat room to talk to my mates and now it aint working :
[16:20] <Gnea> ...
[16:20] <kahen> is there a way to get the old behaviour of update-manager back where it puts an icon in the top panel? because i'm sick and effing tired of missing updates because the window pops up below whatever i'm working with
[16:20] <Yanick_> Norse_Nemo, as soon as I can recuperate my shell, I'll do just that
[16:20] <Gnea> mtaftm: the chat itself has been experiencing a lot of problems lately
[16:21] <UbuntuN00B> anyone running Ubuntu on a PS3?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> Yanick_,in the terminal , eth0=static , then restart with sudo dhclient eth0
[16:21] <Purplecat> What d you need to know ubuntunoob ?
[16:21] <Yanick_> BluesKaj, yeah, except that I can't get into the shell, I can't see my fs from a boot cd, trying to find out where it is and mount it
[16:21] <mtaftm> Gnea: not this chatroom another one, im just having problems runing java :/
[16:22] <Gnea> mtaftm: at this point, I wouldn't recommend using java for irc, but perhaps something like irssi or xchat
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Yanick_, ok sorry , didn't see that part
[16:22] <llutz> Yanick_: sudo su; fdisk -l   from live-cd
[16:22] <macman_> is anyone here using a commandline email client ?
[16:22] <mtaftm> Gnea: never mind might go back to windows lol
[16:22] <raul_> how can I know if a process is running?
[16:22] <llutz> macman_: me, mutt
[16:22] <UbuntuN00B> if I was to install Ubuntu on my PS3 if I could us the PSX emulator and use the PS3 controller and play PS1 games.
[16:22] <BlessJah> input not workind on 9.04 (MCP78S [GeForce 8200] High Definition Audio)
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Yanick_, can't drop to a tty ?
[16:23] <Gnea> mtaftm: well, the bot has some useful information for fixing java, but it's just not here right now
[16:23] <Purplecat> raul, the top command shows you the running proscesses…
[16:23] <Yanick_> llutz, fdisk is not a known command
[16:23] <macman_> llutz: can i pm or do you mind helping me set it up i already have 1 email account working .. i just need to setup a second one with hooks so i can send and receieve from that one
[16:23] <bonjour-910-64> bonjour  , hello  , perdu !! lost !
[16:23] <Yanick_> BluesKaj, nope, it stops at the network init
[16:23] <VCoolio> abe3k: pre_exec wget http://www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O - 2> /dev/null
[16:23] <llutz> Yanick_: /sbin/fdisk -l
[16:23] <VCoolio> abe3k: wget http://www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O - 2> /dev/null
[16:24] <neohashi> ah man.. why is it that every upgrade destroys something? :P (went from 9.04 to 9.10) blender stopped working amongs other things.. like compiling ogre projects
[16:24] <Yanick_> llutz, /sbin/fdisk not found
[16:24] <Purplecat> UbuntuNOOB > PSX emulators are not that great on powerPC…
[16:24] <abe3k> VCoolio : is there any way of getting the local network ip ?
[16:24] <llutz> macman_: better ask in #mutt
[16:24] <raul_> Purplecat: my aMSN had a problem. it is not responding. I used "top", but I didn't find the aMSN running there... it is kind of messy...
[16:24] <Norse_Nemo> yanick: are you using ubuntu live cd?
[16:24] <llutz> Yanick_: what kind of live-cd are you using?
[16:24] <Yanick_> llutz, yes
[16:24] <macman_> llutz: there dead 0_o
[16:24] <areay> defrysk, gdmsetup only gives me the option to log in as a user automatically, or select one from a list... it's been completely changed... :(
[16:24] <abe3k> VCoolio : I want to assign it to something like $ip
[16:25] <mtaftm> actually whats the linux OS?
[16:25] <grawity> abe3k: ip="$( command)"
[16:25] <llutz> Yanick_: _what kind_ of live-cd are you using?
[16:25] <mtaftm> the best one that will work with 512mb of ram
[16:25] <kahen> i'm running with the bottom panel set to autohide and i basically _NEVER_ see that there are updates available to install unless i SSH into this machine... whoever decided to do away with the icon showing that updates are available is bleeping braindead
[16:25] <Yanick_> llutz, Ubuntu Server 9.10 64-bit edition
[16:25] <llutz> Yanick_: even on live-cd there should be fdisk and some usefull tools
[16:25] <grawity> mtaftm: There's no such thing as "the Linux OS"... but, take a look at Arch if you want something lightweight.
[16:25] <Yanick_> llutz, well, there's not
[16:25] <grawity> mtaftm: Actually, I think Xubuntu would work fine for you too.
[16:25] <Norse_Nemo> mtaftm: you should not have a problem running most linux distros on 512 megs
[16:26] <neohashi> blender problem: libdirectfb-1.0.so.0 not found.. though I have it according to synaptic <- do I really have to uninstall this package? (got alot of packages that will die with it)
[16:26] <blakkheim> kahen: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[16:26] <Purplecat> Raul_ > aMSN relies on JAVA, it use a lot of power… You should try empathy or pidgin… ;)
[16:26] <llutz> Yanick_: ls -l /dev/sd??
[16:26] <grawity> mtaftm: I've used Ubuntu (the one with GNOME) on 256 MB, worked.
[16:26] <Norse_Nemo> mtaftm: I agree with grawity
[16:26] <MASARUwota> Raul_: use emesene
[16:26] <hsa2> hello
[16:26] <MASARUwota> !hi|hsa2
[16:26] <blakkheim> mtaftm: xubuntu is still very bloated
[16:26] <Purplecat> Raul_ > Yeah eMeSeNe is grat too ^^
[16:26] <kahen> blakkheim: i KNOW how to update thank you very much... just update-manager that's retarded after it was changed in 9.10
[16:27] <Enigmator> Yanick_ are you using grub ?
[16:27] <mtaftm> well im using ubuntu and its very slow :/
[16:27] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: use a light distribution. im running minimal debian with awesomewm here. on a 5year old laptop. =)
[16:27] <blakkheim> kahen: if you know how then why are you complaining? why do you need a gui for it if you know how to actually do it?
[16:27] <hsa2> is it necessary to install from cd everytime ubuntu releases a new version?
[16:27] <Yanick_> llutz, alright, I mounted the fs
[16:27] <vuln[studying]> Hi. I would like to share my 3g connection with other pcs at my home. I'm using Ubuntu, any tips?
[16:27] <erUSUL> hsa2: no you can upgrade
[16:28] <erUSUL> !upgrade | hsa2
[16:28] <kahen> blakkheim: because you know... actually being notified when there are updates is kinda nice
[16:28] <VCoolio> abe3k: ah, abe3k don't know, use grep and awk on ifconfig to echo network ip if there is no direcht command for it
[16:28] <Norse_Nemo> hsa2: no you can upgrade via the internet
[16:28] <hsa2> erUSUL: but is it the same from installing from cd?
[16:28] <raul_> Purplecat, MASARUwota: thanks!
[16:28] <kahen> instead of just a window popping up which i never see
[16:28] <blakkheim> kahen: setup a cron job
[16:28] <mtaftm> MASARUwota: whats a light distribution how do you run it on minaml mate
[16:28] <hsa2> i mean, bootscreen, logon screen changes on version
[16:28] <blakkheim> !mini > mtaftm
[16:28] <erUSUL> hsa2: it is not the same; you keep the installed packages an all the configurations ;)
[16:28] <llutz> Yanick_: edit /mountpoint/etc/network/interfaces
[16:28] <mtaftm> ubuntu mini ?! never heard of it
[16:28] <abe3k> VCoolio : so I have to make a scrip to filter the output of ifconfig then ?
[16:29] <vuln[studying]> Hi. I would like to share my 3g connection with other pcs at my home. I'm using Ubuntu, any tips?
[16:29] <hsa2> erUSUL: i don't mean user configurations in /home/ directory
[16:29] <hsa2> of course they will be saved
[16:29] <blakkheim> mtaftm: an ubuntu minimal or debian netinstall would be perfect
[16:29] <hsa2> as i said before, i am wondering boot screen and etc
[16:29] <erUSUL> hsa2: you keep everything; you ge the new program versions
[16:29] <hsa2> well, it's not good i think
[16:30] <hsa2> so i can't get new eyecandy
[16:30] <mtaftm> blakkheim : sorry i am new to linux so o i just search ubuntu minimal on google then?
[16:30] <VCoolio> abe3k: ifconfig | grep "inet addr:192" | awk '{print $2}'
[16:30] <blakkheim> mtaftm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:30] <abe3k> VCoolio : awesome, I'll give it a try thanks
[16:31] <Norse_Nemo> !mini | mtaftm
[16:31] <VCoolio> abe3k: does that work for you? if you want the addr: part gone then pipe to sed also
[16:31] <blakkheim> Norse_Nemo: already tried that, got no response from the bot
[16:31] <mtaftm> wtf there only 10 mb ?!
[16:31] <Myrtti> mtaftm: it's basically a netinstall
[16:31] <Norse_Nemo> blakkheim: hmm, oh well
[16:31] <mtaftm> runs of the net yh ?
[16:31] <Myrtti> mtaftm: installs a barebone that you can install whatever you want to from the net
[16:31] <abe3k> VCoolio : it worked verry well but I don't want to include the addr: in the output
[16:32] <VCoolio> abe3k: hang on, let me try
[16:32] <mtaftm> yh but can i listen to my music via rythmbox and still use msn on it?
[16:32] <abe3k> VCoolio : thanks buddy
[16:32] <tsimpson> abe3k: ifconfig | grep "inet addr:192" | awk '{print $2}'|sed 's/addr://g'
[16:32] <abe3k> tsimpson : perfect :D
[16:32] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: you can install rhythmbox and emesene, yes. if you want i can guide you through the process. that is, if you get another pc and log in there or give me your MSN :X
[16:32] <Myrtti> mtaftm: no, if you don't install a graphical environment and the apps you want first
[16:33] <Norse_Nemo> mtaftm: I can almost assure you that you will be able to run Ubuntu on any machine made within the last 10 years
[16:33] <abe3k> thanks guys :>
[16:33] <VCoolio> abe3k:  ifconfig | grep "inet addr:192" | awk '{print $2}' | sed 's/addr://'
[16:33] <blakkheim> mtaftm: it is what it sounds like; a minimal install. it's just a commandline. from there, you can install whatever you want with aptitude
[16:33] <mtaftm> i have not got another computer
[16:34] <abe3k> VCoolio : perfect thaaanks :D
[16:34] <VCoolio> abe3k: I'm sure it can be done much smarter and geekier, but this works
[16:34] <llutz> ifconfig | awk '/inet addr:192/ '{print $2}' | sed 's/addr://'
[16:34] <Myrtti> mtaftm: it's a barebone version, that has the minimal set of applications needed - no graphical environment by default. you can cherry pick whatever you want to put on top of that.
[16:34] <abe3k> VCoolio : thats good enough for me xD
[16:34] <tsimpson> you want the 'g' in the end of the sed command
[16:34] <VCoolio> tsimpson: ok, why?
[16:34] <MASARUwota> Myrtti: i dont think he gets it, and i dont think he understands how a minimal install works anyways
[16:34] <mtaftm> i dont know if i want to install it, and heres my msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:34] <abe3k> VCoolio : you can't imagine how long the scrip I imagined to do was haha
[16:34] <rrittenhouse> When I install the Vlan package and configure a VLAN on my eth0 interface my eth0 interface disappears when I reboot, why is this?
[16:35] <mtaftm> which one should i go for ?!
[16:35] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: are you on MSN atm?
[16:35] <tsimpson> VCoolio: well, it's not strictly necessary in this case, but it makes the regex apply for the whole input, rather than matching once only
[16:35] <mtaftm> ill go on now
[16:35] <VCoolio> tsimpson: I see, found it in my long list of sed oneliners; good to remember
[16:35] <Psycho> hi
[16:36] <Psycho> lamers
[16:36] <dakira> Hi. How do I get karmic to recognize the contents of /etc/network/interfaces on startup (again)? since I upgraded to karmic I have to manually start the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces with "ifup <iface>" even though there is an entry "auto <iface>" in the file. Any ideas?   Problem: I am starting some virtualbox guests and backgrounding them for a test environment.  The ipc mechanism for vbox management tools to communicate with the guest systems is through a socket in /tmp/.vbox-user-ipc; however, when I logout, this is removed from /tmp.  I need this to not happen.  Any hints where to start looking? :)
[16:38] <blakkheim> mtaftm: mint is just ubuntu with a different theme and codecs preinstalled
[16:38] <mtaftm> lol
[16:38] <Myrtti> -g
[16:38] <MASARUwota> and A BLACK THEME
[16:38] <MASARUwota> :/
[16:38] <Psycho> You like Linux, because it's free?
[16:38] <mtaftm> well if someone can sort my java out ill be very happy
[16:38] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: i added you to msn :/
[16:38] <mtaftm> ok well you aint popped up yet
[16:39] <Myrtti> Psycho: what's your point? this is Ubuntu support channel, if you have a support question, feel free to ask, but offtopic discussion is elsewhere
[16:39] <erUSUL> !java | mtaftm
[16:39] <BluesKaj> dakira, try ifup and these enties  auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static
[16:39] <MASARUwota> psychomog: we like it because its awesome. thats why
[16:39] <MASARUwota> D:
[16:39] <mtaftm> i have java!!!!!! its just being a bugger
[16:39] <Enigmator> gladiatr have you tried to change owner to root?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> dakira, err   auto eth0,  iface eth0 inet static
[16:39] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: what do you need java for?
[16:40] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: aMSN? you should install emesene instead :/
[16:40] <Yanick_> ok. I solved my issue :) I wrote "net" instead of "inet" lol
[16:40] <mtaftm> to go on a java based chat room,  i always go on it i have friends on it
[16:40] <mtaftm> and i am using emense thats alot better
[16:40] <gladiatr> Enigmator, change the owner of the /tmp/.vbox-user-ipc directory to root?
[16:40] <mtaftm> what is your msn ill add you
[16:40] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: eehm, java-based chatrooms are irc rooms 99% percent of the time
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Yanick_, good to hear :)
[16:41] <mtaftm> whats irc?
[16:41] <blakkheim> mtaftm: ..you're on irc right now
[16:41] <MASARUwota> haha oh whow
[16:41] <om26er> hmm..
[16:41] <Enigmator> yes and all files in it, dont know if it would work, its mostly a guess
[16:41] <onetinsoldier> Internet Relay Chat
[16:41] <mtaftm> yh i am
[16:41] <mtaftm> sorry
[16:42] <mtaftm> well it might be my firefox :/
[16:42] <VCoolio> abe3k: don't know if ip has always same amount of numbers; but here's an easier alternative, just for fun: ifconfig | grep "inet addr:192" | cut --characters 21-32
[16:42] <mtaftm> firefox might be the problem then
[16:42] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: its probably openjdk, but search for the ircroom name, you should use that instead
[16:43] <evila333> VCoolio what will that do for ip
[16:43] <mtaftm> i just think its firefox and MASURA are you cal?
[16:43] <Enigmator> but make sure users have read write access to it
[16:43] <abe3k> VCoolio : yeah, I agree sometimes I'll use it with machienes that end with 3 digits
[16:43] <St0n3-C0l> any galeon fan here?
[16:44] <Enigmator> I mean read execute, not write
[16:44] <abe3k> VCoolio :I think the long one is safer
[16:44] <St0n3-C0l> I want to know how to make Galeon make CTRL+C usable on Google Docs.
[16:44] <VCoolio> evila333: it will print character 21-32 from the line that says "inet addr:192" from ifconfig output
[16:44] <evila333> oh ok i thought it was something else...just woke up...
[16:44] <mtaftm> ahhh when i click connect it just stop
[16:45] <llutz> abe3k: LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet / { print $2 } ' | sed -e s/addr://
[16:45] <dakira> BluesKaj: that's what I have.. but "auto <iface" doesn't activate the interfaces on boot, which it used to do before karmic. Now I have to manually type "ifup <iface>" every time I start my computer.
[16:45] <llutz> abe3k: works even if you change to 10. net :)
[16:45] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: look up the server and room that it tries to connect to, and do it manually. java is for proprietary windows users
[16:45] <rodolfinas> i use to download sypaptic manager for something i need like a clone of msn (pgidm or something like that )..when i finish download were can i find the aplication to run it?
[16:45] <rrittenhouse> When I install the Vlan package and configure a VLAN on my eth0 interface my eth0 interface disappears when I reboot, why is this?
[16:45] <abe3k> llutz : cool even more universal :D
[16:45] <BlessJah> input not workind on 9.04 (MCP78S [GeForce 8200] High Definition Audio)
[16:45] <MASARUwota> rodolfinas: menu
[16:45] <grawity> MASARUwota: fyi, Java (both the language and the Sun JVM) is open-source.
[16:46] <Norse_Nemo> rodolfinas: Applications -> Internet
[16:46] <mtaftm> its not that, its that you have to login, im stuck at the login page which is java based
[16:46] <MASARUwota> grawity: which is why openjdk =/= normal java? or am i thinking somthing different here
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> rodolfinas: hello
[16:46] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: dude, who makes javabased loginpages for websites?
[16:46] <erUSUL> rodolfinas: Aplications>Internet>Pidgin
[16:46] <mtaftm> i dont know lol
[16:47] <mtaftm> but its defiantly java based
[16:47] <llutz> abe3k: last one, sed only  LANG=C /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | sed -n 's/.*addr:\([0-9.]*\).*/\1/p'
[16:47] <rodolfinas> im realy new but i cant find it ..i think it didnt downolad it corect or i make a mistake
[16:47] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: can you give me the URL, or is it some pornsite that you dont want to share?
[16:47] <evila333> boldvoices.tv has a java based login page for there chat app
[16:47] <abe3k> llutz: niiice
[16:47] <jozek> fuck
[16:47] <mtaftm> its not a porn site, im 17 and its a teen chat website
[16:48] <geirha> abe3k: IFS=' /' read _ _ _ ip mask _ < <(ip -4 -o addr show dev eth0); echo "$ip"
[16:48] <MASARUwota> !language|jozek
[16:48] <MASARUwota> mtaftm: well then...
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> rodolfinas: hello
[16:48] <jozek> hell'o
[16:48] <Enigmator> gladiatr forget about this it doesn't work
[16:48] <geirha> abe3k: That'll only work in bash though
[16:48] <MASARUwota> !hi|jozek
[16:49] <mtaftm> i have mates from around the UK i talk to everyday, and now its just packed up
[16:49] <grawity> MASARUwota: I think OpenJDK was created _before_ Sun JVM got opensourced.