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[03:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netperfmeter [source] (hirsute-proposed) [1.8.6~rc2-1ubuntu1]
[03:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ofxstatement-plugins (hirsute-proposed/universe) [20210108 => 20210310] (no packageset) (sync)
[03:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ofxstatement-plugins [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [20210310]
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[03:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted opam [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [2.0.8-1]
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[08:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.9 [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.9.3-1ubuntu1]
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[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-11 [source] (hirsute-proposed) [11-20210404-1ubuntu1]
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[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dlt-viewer [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [2.21.2+dfsg-2]
[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netgen [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [6.2.2006+really6.2.1905+dfsg-2.1]
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[19:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.9 [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.9.4-1]
[21:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: qbittorrent (hirsute-proposed/primary) [4.2.5-0.1build]
[21:49] <RikMills> ^^ please remove. error in the version
[21:53] <RikMills> maybe I should also file a bug to get that back in
[22:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pfstools (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.1.0-5build6 => 2.1.0-6] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pfstools [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [2.1.0-6]
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[22:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted vips [source] (hirsute-proposed) [8.10.5-2ubuntu1]
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[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted phpdox [source] (hirsute-proposed) [0.12.0-4ubuntu1]


[10:22] <TLE> hey guys, just answering sokhem on the list, the debian installer the terminal based installer for the server version right?
[10:27] <sagaci> and alternate, afaik
[10:31] <TLE> thanks
[10:38] <dpm> yes, that's right
[14:51] <jokerdino> ah hi dpm
[14:51] <dpm> hi jokerdino
[14:52] <jokerdino> i would like to say thank you for the translation stats page.
[14:52] <jokerdino> our translation team still has a long way to go before we can make it..
[14:53] <dpm> you're welcome :)
[14:53] <jokerdino> :)
[14:53] <dpm> jokerdino, what was your translation team?
[14:53] <jokerdino> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ta The tamil team
[14:54] <dpm> ah, cool
[14:54] <dpm> and how's the team doing?
[14:55] <jokerdino> pretty inactive :/
[14:56] <jokerdino> i am looking for ways to get more translators. got to email the mailing list about my ideas.
[15:00] <dpm> jokerdino, but it's good to see you're starting the ball rolling. Let me know if I can help in any way
[15:01] <jokerdino> you have already helped by giving us the stats page. so, we can check our progress on a daily basis.
[15:06] <dpm> jokerdino, if you send me an e-mail with a couple of paragraphs explaining what your goals are for the team, perhaps I can give a hand by writing a blog post on Ubuntu Planet with a call for Tamil translators?
[15:07] <jokerdino> that might help.
[15:08] <jokerdino> just one problem. our admin is not very active in the launchpad and we already have a backlog of people whose applications have neither been rejected or approved.
[15:09] <jokerdino> i don't blame my admin. the other day, i had a chat with one of the senior member of the group here in #ubuntu-tam and he said amachu (our admin) has been quite busy with RL chores lately.
[15:09] <jokerdino> so, i was in the process of proposing to my team that we should have some procedure set so getting approved into the team would be somewhat organized.
[15:10] <dpm> jokerdino, it's normal that people gets busy, and if someone else wants to take the initiative and run the team, we've got a defined process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/RoleReassignmentPolicy
[15:10] <jokerdino> thanks, i am reading it.
[15:10] <dpm> so I'd say that if the current team leader is inactive and you're willing to help the team become more active, you should think of becoming the new team lead
[15:11] <jokerdino> would that work?
[15:12] <jokerdino> as in like, is that what that is supposed to be done?
[15:13] <jokerdino> i would take your suggestion into consideration. i think it would be better to discuss this with our team.
[15:13] <jokerdino> i shall get back to you. thanks a lot :)
[15:53] <jokerdino> ok dpm, just emailed the team about my goals and intentions. hopefully they will respond positively. :)
[15:53] <jokerdino> though, i forgot to mention about the link you just shared with me.
[15:53] <jokerdino> regarding change of team leader.. :/
[15:54] <dpm> jokerdino, no worries, let me know how it goes!
[15:54] <jokerdino> thanks. i will sure let you know.
[15:54] <dpm> you can also send a follow up e-mail with the url
[15:55] <jokerdino> good point. will do as such.
[15:58] <jokerdino> anyway, thanks for your help, i now have to go off. good night! meet you later!


[00:06] <iamempty> hey guys
[00:57] <mparillo> fuze: No, the Kubuntu Backports will never show in the main repository for an old release. Your uptions are (1) Keep your existing release and apply Kubuntu Backports; (2) Upgrade in place to a new release (3) Backup your data, fresh install, restore your data
[02:46] <kubunted> is it a conspiracy? WHy is linux getting worse and worse?
[02:49] <[Relic]> cause they aren't microsoft so they can't claim that all those problems are extra features  :)
[03:04] <kubunted> [Relic]: it's done without claiming
[03:32] <[Relic]> this sucks, done with 17.04 I think, finally got another usb to boot and it craps out the same way as the other one did
[03:50] <kubunted> 17.04 no good? i was about to try
[04:01] <[Relic]> not sure what it is
[04:18] <[Relic]> going nuts trying to figure out what the problem is
[04:19] <[Relic]> the iso md5checksum shows good but when it boots it says it has bad files, not sure if there is something I should change in grub that might make a difference, I know I have a very up to date nvidia card (1050 ti) so I expected a little bit of a problem, but still can't get it to work yet
[06:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:16] <juke_> Hello! I'm new to Kubuntu and Linux and i got some questions. Can anybody help me please?
[09:18] <lordievader> !ask | juke_
[09:20] <suici> i can
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:33] <aiena> o/ BluesKaj
[11:47] <BluesKaj> hi aiena
[12:47] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: yes thank you
[12:47] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: and Dolphin had this functionality available as a plugin
[13:45] <lylil> 0.0
[13:51] <lylil> 0.0
[14:19] <himcesjf> EvilRoey: Yes, I vaguely remember that
[14:20] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: aye, and the kpart in Dolphin shows it with boxes instead of a radial pie chart
[14:23] <lylil> 0.0
[14:25] <lylil> 0.0
[14:28] <iamempty> time
[14:28] <Myman> iamempty: The time is now Wed Jun 14 17:28:14 EEST 2017
[14:28] <iamempty> damn
[14:30] <iamempty> what is this room abotu?
[16:15] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: http://feinstaub.github.io/blog/kde/2016/01/29/view-disk-usage-via-dolphin.html  <-- this makes it a little more usable
[16:26] <himcesjf> EvilRoey: There you go
[16:30] <EvilRoey> himcesjf: thank you very much :)
[16:31] <[Relic]> How do I figure out what is broken in grub or the iso that keeps causing me not to be able to use the 17.04 usb
[16:31] <[Relic]> live from usb
[16:32] <[Relic]> it also effected 16.04 which I know I tried on this computer before, but again goes to this weird grub menu when I try to boot
[16:33] <[Relic]> the only thing that has changed in my computer since the last time I tried 16.04 was the video card, but that doesn't seem like it should trigger no boot and the grub menu instead
[16:35] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  grub menu or grub rescue?
[16:35] <[Relic]> and the 2 versions of 17.04 that I made into usb sticks and actually try start but then kernel panic error out
[16:36] <[Relic]> then read like 25 errors even though I downloaded the iso 2x and installed on 2 different usb drives
[16:37] <[Relic]> comes up to GNU Gurb version 2.02!beta3-4ubuntu2  Minimal BASHlike editing supported
[16:37] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  which app did you use to install the images to the usb stick ?
[16:37] <[Relic]> dd
[16:37] <[Relic]> tried unetbootin that didn't work well
[16:38] <BluesKaj> dd can be tricky if you don't have clean partition target, but disk creator works well too
[16:39] <[Relic]> I thought maybe the first usb was bad with the 25 errors, but then I made the 2nd one with 2 <4G partitions and it still errors out the same way
[16:39] <[Relic]> I am on 14.04 right now
[16:39] <BluesKaj> did you check the md5sums of the images?
[16:39] <[Relic]> yep
[16:41] <[Relic]> start up disk creator doesn't even see the drive for some reason , niether does unetbootin
[16:41] <[Relic]> and yet  if I open files with dolphin it is all there and fdisk -l will show it too
[16:42] <[Relic]> trying to find where the multi core cpu can be turned off to see if that fixes it
[16:43] <BluesKaj> formatted the usbs to fat32
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:44] <[Relic]> yep fat32 LBA mode c, they boot and start loading but crap out after a while says squashfs files are error/bad
[16:46] <BluesKaj>  never used lba with fat32, unless that's default and i didn't notice
[16:47] <[Relic]> that was the one that was booting up so I just used it for the second one
[16:47] <BluesKaj> don't think any special block modes are necessary
[16:48] <BluesKaj> formatting jsut clear the usb of data , dd doesn't care what the file system is afaik
[16:48] <[Relic]> no clue, but that would be the standard win mode since large size HDs came out
[16:49] <BluesKaj> then it's probly default unless you chose it as an option or some such
[16:50] <[Relic]> programs seem to format things in b fat32 not lba
[16:50] <BluesKaj> what was your dd command ?
[16:51] <[Relic]> will be back in a few minutes I am going to try adding a few items to the boot to see if that get better results
[16:51] <[Relic]> was -> sudo dd bs=4M if=kubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc1
[16:56] <BluesKaj> try,  sudo dd  if=kubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M,  no need for sdc1 afaik
[17:00] <BluesKaj> or add ,sync after bs=4M
[17:02] <BluesKaj> amyway, stuff to do for a while bb in a couple hrs
[17:17] <[Relic]> that didn't work keeps crapping out on the sqaushfs files and the multiple cpu cores
[17:51] <BluesKaj>  multiple cpu cores, you must be kidding
[18:05] <skomorokh> Got a new laptop for the first time in 7 years. Want to install Kubuntu. Installed Windows first because I imagine it'd mess up Linux, but I don't see a way to set up an encrypted install from the Kubuntu installer without nuking my existing partitions?
[18:06] <skomorokh> Does that option exist someplace or do I still need to do luks+dmcrypt/lvm manually in a terminal off to the side and somehow coax it to using that to install?
[18:06] <skomorokh> I vaguely remember some text mode debianish installer I could boot into aeons ago when I last did this but seemingly that is no longer an option either?
[18:07] <skomorokh> Anyone happen to know of a good guide to the most convenient way to accomplish this on 17.04?
[18:07] <BluesKaj> skomorokh,  did you try using manual partitioning instead of guided or auto
[18:14] <skomorokh> BluesKaj: Yup. But it only has options for setting things as boot, root, swap, etc. Not for setting it to encypted lvm.
[18:15] <skomorokh> Found this article that for one person, on Ubuntu, last year, it wasn't possible and had to be done manually: https://www.summet.com/blog/2016/11/26/installing-an-encrypted-partition-with-lvm-dual-boot-on-ubuntu-16-04/
[18:15] <skomorokh> So starts to seem likely that it's still the case, this year, for Kubuntu.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> skomorokh,  afraid that may be the case
[18:20] <skomorokh> Hm. Even without any tooling it would have been useful if the installer had a quick note about that near where it has the manual set up option "NB. encrypted lvm while retaining the whole disk is only possible if you arrange that yourself in the terminal"
[18:28] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, since I can't log it it craps out on CPU 2 or 4 every time with an IRQ error message and a kernel panic stop
[18:30] <[Relic]> Originally I thought it was something about the MB but since I know I put 16.04 and upgraded to 16.10 on this computer to try it and that 16.04 usb disk I just made doesn't boot but goes into the GNU Grub version... message I am not sure what to look at anymore
[18:37] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  do you have 16.10 ?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> or are you saying the upgrade to 16.10 won't boot after installing via do-release-upgrade
[18:50] <[Relic]> don't have 16.10
[18:52] <BluesKaj> [Relic],  do you have secure and qick/fast boot enabled in the uefi/bios?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> quick/fast
[18:54] <[Relic]> not sure I even have that option
[18:56] <[Relic]> 16.04.1
[18:56] <[Relic]> 5 copies of that and one 16.04
[19:35] <[Relic]> I am begining to beleive it is a major "new vid card" problem
[19:36] <[Relic]> not sure how to get the grub to force whatever mode the bois/cmos/boot is using for the system that seems to work onto it till it gets loaded
[19:46] <skomorokh> is there a shortcut to doing all the proc sys etc. bind mounts you need before chrooting when wanting to regenerate grub / initramfs on a system from a livecd?
[20:50] <weboh> I am having trouble using Tor. Is this intentional?
 @weboh, doubt it. I've never had a problem


[00:59] <cyphermox> LocutusOfBorg: haskell-src-exts-util
[00:59] <cyphermox> ^ fixed to not download stuff.
[01:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: manila [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:6.0.0-2ubuntu1] (openstack)
[02:09] <sarnold> cyphermox: is that a general "don't fetch things in autopkgtest" fix? or is that more a temporary workaround for a specific problem? bundler goes to the web to download things<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mistral [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:07] <cyphermox> sarnold: it's a 'permanent workaround' for buildtime downloading stuff (which is obviously not allowed)
[03:07] <cyphermox> specific to haskell
[03:07] <cyphermox> (and I don't really know what I'm doing, just bumbling through to try to unblock things for me)
[03:18] <cyphermox> sarnold: I think the bundler call is missing --local for that test
[03:20] <cyphermox> LocutusOfBorg: I'll have already sent the patch to debian for haskell-src-exts-util; and I'll do that for the other things, so I won't keep notifying you of changes
[04:21] <sarnold> cyphermox: aha, I hadn't realized it was a different type of thing entirely. thanks
[04:22] <sarnold> cyphermox: thanks, 1775505 for bundler
[06:08] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, meh, in the next LTS, the hwe is really the same as the normal one, because the xorg-hwe is a meta-package, once xorg-hwe upgrades, the vbox-hwe changes too, it depends on the user being stuck to xorg-hwe or the normal one, so, I really have to follow them
[06:08] <LocutusOfBorg> you can't install the -hwe package without the xorg-hwe one and I can't force a xorg downgrade
[06:08] <LocutusOfBorg> cyphermox, uploading stuff in debian
[06:08] <LocutusOfBorg> please at least call them "build1" instead of ubuntu1
[06:09] <LocutusOfBorg> so they are directly syncable automagically
[06:26] <LocutusOfBorg> cyphermox, haskell-iso8601-time fixed probably too
[07:50] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, good morning, can you please kick haskell-twitter-types? we removed haskell-derive, we should kick it too because it depends on it (maybe just move to proposed, so once derive is fixed it can come back automagically)
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (xenial-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu21 => <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu22] (no packageset)
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (artful-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.4 => <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.5] (core)
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (bionic-proposed/main) [0.7.5-1ubuntu16 => 0.7.5-1ubuntu16.1] (core)
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.7.5-1ubuntu16.1]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (artful-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.5]
[11:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu22]
[11:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: bolt-lmm [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.3.2+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[11:22] <Trevinho> bdmurray: hey could you please unblock https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1766137 fix from the SRU queue?
[11:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gemma [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.97+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[11:43] <LocutusOfBorg> please remove haskell-conduit-combinators? it has been removed from Debian
[11:52] <LocutusOfBorg> also haskell-twitter-types-lens should be demoted to -proposed (missing haskell-derive)
[11:52] <LocutusOfBorg> haskell-twitter-types haskell-twitter-types-lens --> move to -proposed, remove haskell-conduit-combinators
[11:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gemma [i386] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.97+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[12:45] <acheronuk> hmmm 'autopkgtest-build-lxd images:ubuntu/cosmic/amd64'
[12:45] <acheronuk> I get 'Timed out waiting for container to boot'
[12:45] <acheronuk> on this real machine, and a remote VPS
[13:09] <acheronuk> seems to go beyond the timeout before 'lxc exec autopkgtest-prepare-*** runlevel' returns N 5 instead of unknown
[14:07] <Laney> yeah me and xnox were looking into that
[15:38] <bdmurray> Trevinho: I'm at a sprint but will look today.
[15:46] <sil2100> bdmurray: I released those SRUs that were ready, not sure if the pending page updated since then
[15:48] <bdmurray> sil2100: I saw you did the important one - apport!
[15:48] <sil2100> bdmurray: I will be doing my SRU shift in some minutes if anything, since I'm basiscally shifted to your timezone now
[15:49] <sil2100> So if anything you can get busy with meetings if you don't feel like SRUing ;)
[15:49] <bdmurray> Thanks I do have a meeting in 10 minutes.
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: fonts-guru-extra (bionic-proposed/main) [2.0-4 => 2.0-4ubuntu0.1] (desktop-core, personal-gunnarhj)
[16:23] <cyphermox> LocutusOfBorg: it's *ubuntu1 because the patch is submitted to debian, but not necessarily landed yet. since we're doing the work, we can run syncpackage as appropriate when it's necessary.
[17:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: zc.lockfile [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.3.0-1] (zope)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-apt (bionic-proposed/main) [1.6.0 => 1.6.1] (core)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cups-pk-helper [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.2.6-1ubuntu1.2]
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.5-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (artful-proposed) [3.5-1~ubuntu17.10.3]
[18:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.5-1~ubuntu16.04.3]
[18:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (trusty-proposed) [3.5-1~ubuntu14.04.3]
[18:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gdm3 [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.28.2-0ubuntu1.2]
[18:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted quota [source] (bionic-proposed) [4.04-2ubuntu0.1]
[18:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected vlc [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.3-1ubuntu0.1]
[18:59] <sil2100> tjaalton: hey! Still around?
[18:59] <tjaalton> sil2100: somewhat, yes
[19:00] <tjaalton> hi
[19:00] <tjaalton> :P
[19:00] <sil2100> tjaalton: hi! I would really like to approve libglvnd, but it's missing some SRU information on one of the bugs
[19:00] <sil2100> Like, some info on what test steps to perform to validate the fix
[19:01] <sil2100> tjaalton: would be awesome if you could quickly hack something up ;)
[19:01] <tjaalton> alright
[19:01] <tjaalton> sil2100: which bug?
[19:02] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1770913
[19:02] <tjaalton> ah
[19:02] <tjaalton> got it
[19:02] <sil2100> :) Thanks!
[19:10] <tjaalton> sil2100: how's that now?
[19:15] <sil2100> Purrfect
[19:16] <tjaalton> btw, I uploaded the first pkgs for 16.04.5 yesterday, libdrm & llvm-6
[19:18] <sil2100> tjaalton: excellent! I'll pick those up in a moment, didn't get to xenial yet
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: murano [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:5.0.0-1ubuntu1] (openstack)
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libglvnd [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.0-2ubuntu2.1]
[19:21] <sil2100> tjaalton: hm, I don't see the llvm toolchain in the queue - you sure that got properly uploaded?
[19:21] <sil2100> I'll take care of libdrm in the meantime
[19:22] <tjaalton> sil2100: it's on NEW
[19:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libdrm [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.4.91-2~16.04.1]
[20:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swauth (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.3.0-1 => 1.3.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swauth (artful-proposed/universe) [1.2.0-3 => 1.2.0-3ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swauth (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.3.0-1 => 1.3.0-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[22:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-6.0 [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:6.0-1ubuntu2~16.04.1]
[22:17] <sil2100> Laney: oh, no bileto autopkgtest results for the gst new version?
[22:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: u-boot [arm64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [2018.03+dfsg1-2ubuntu1] (core)
[22:24] <sil2100> Laney: also, is versioning of 1.14.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu18.04.1 a standard? I guess that's nitpicking already
[23:27] <infinity> sil2100, Laney: I'd prefer to see 1.14.1-1ubuntu1~18.04.1 for a backport of 1.14.1-1ubuntu1, but meh.
[23:27] <infinity> (automatic backport tools will do what is in the queue, I think)
[23:34] <sil2100> Yeah, I'd prefer the other version as well, which is why I asked
[23:34] <sil2100> But it's just nitpicking
[23:34] <sil2100> So I'll just finish reviewing all of those tomorrow when I wake up
[23:34] <sil2100> o/
[23:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-6.0 [ppc64el] (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:6.0-1ubuntu2~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-6.0 [amd64] (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:6.0-1ubuntu2~16.04.1] (no packageset)


[09:48] <RAOF> Surprisingly enough, screaming FASTER! at the computer doesn't actually make it build any faster…
[09:49] <jcristau> weird, that.
[09:50] <RAOF> It's a pitty the “turbo” button didn't evolve into the ‘impatience’ button that you could press at increasing frequency to trigger improved performance.
[09:58] <tjaalton> RAOF: building mesa?-)
[09:58] <RAOF> Yup.
[10:04] <raevol> for fun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45071/how-do-i-set-the-refresh-rate-used-by-kms-on-the-foss-ati-driver
[10:06] <RAOF> Easy!  System→Preferences→Monitors!
[10:06] <RAOF> Get it while it's hot, and while GNOME 3 hasn't removed the refresh rate option!
[10:07] <raevol> i don't believe that changes the rate used by KMS, just X
[10:07] <raevol> and just post-login
[10:07] <raevol> also, i'm using xubuntu
[10:07] <RAOF> Ah, yes.  Having just *read* the question… :)
[10:07] <raevol> ;)
[10:08] <raevol> i really want to post this in #radeon but i am afeared
[10:08] <RAOF> I'll reply on askubuntu.
[10:17] <RAOF> Done.
[10:22] <raevol> raof should i add this to grub_comdline)linux_default="quiet splash" ?
[10:22] <RAOF> Yes.
[10:22]  * RAOF should clearly update that answer.
[10:23] <raevol> hehe sorry
[10:25] <raevol> gonna try it, brb! :)
[10:27] <tjaalton> and needs to run update-grub too
[10:30] <raevol> RAOF: this doesn't seemed to have worked :( is /etc/default/grub perhaps not being read by my system?
[10:30] <tjaalton> run update-grub
[10:31] <raevol> oh silly me, haven't messed with grub in forever
[10:31] <raevol> brb :D
[10:33] <raevol> LIKE A WIZARD
[10:33] <raevol> thanks so much tjaalton and RAOF
[12:42] <RAOF> Woot.  We have llvm-enabled mesa without bloating each gallium driver by ~6Mb.
[12:42] <RAOF> Now, to test whether it actually *works* :)
[13:03] <tjaalton> great, i want to test it after the weekend
[13:04] <RAOF> Man, my btrfs system really really hates dpkg.
[13:04] <RAOF> 20 minutes, and we're only down to libgles2-mesa
[13:05] <tjaalton> oh, it's syncing like mad?
[13:05] <RAOF> Yeah.  And, you know, just being godawful slow.
[13:10] <tjaalton> hehe
[13:11] <tjaalton> maybe i'll use ext4 on the new system too, then
[13:13] <RAOF> Yes.  This is likely to be a good idea.
[13:13] <RAOF> 2 more packages done!  Now up to libglu1-mesa-dev!
[13:34] <jcristau> eatmydata ftw
[13:46] <RAOF> Aaaand *now* llvm is installed, and postinsts are running…
[13:52] <RAOF> DONE!
[13:52] <RAOF> A mere hour to install mesa packages.
[13:54] <RAOF> grumble grumble mutter mutter.
[14:11] <RAOF> Well, at least mesa seems to work.
[19:05] <Sarvatt> RAOF: You must note the upstream commit ID in the changelog of your submission. -- that was the problem it looks like
[22:18] <sithlord48> hi is anyone around to field an xorg question?
[22:20] <sithlord48> i have coruption on my display (laptop) only w/ xorg. its an intel GMA945 family card, i'ved tired new ram and live disks , seams to happen w/ xorg. any suggestsions?
[22:21] <sithlord48> btw it just started yesterday (and no updates to xorg) seamingly randomly while i was using it
[23:10] <Teo`> hello
[23:12] <Teo`> I'm setting up ubuntu in a chroot and I'm trying to get the same version of the nvidia driver lib as my kernel which is another distro, do you know if nvidia-graphics-drivers is going to be bumped to 270.41.19 for maverick any time soon?
[23:12] <Teo`> it's already at that version in natty
[23:12] <Teo`> btw talking about the ubuntu-x-swat ppa
[23:12] <Teo`> dunno if this is even the right channel for that


[00:00] <patdk-lap> it's never really gone well for people
[00:01] <wingarmac> It seems not applicable, as names are translated as IP from the start and the distant host reached has no clue of the name used to be reached.
[00:01] <JanC> but this is about what hostname was used to point to the server's WAN IP
[00:02] <wingarmac> this is about apply host name port authority
[00:04] <wingarmac> make a differnece with a same IP called ones ns.example.com for usage of port 53 and example.com for enpoint port, and another.example.com for another port and service.
[00:04] <wingarmac> All on the same IP
[00:06] <wingarmac> But as I mentioned, it isn't applicable, as the used host name at the request isn't send with it. So the server will not be able to identify what host name was used to be reached. Thus no filter can be applied.
[00:08] <JanC> some protocols (like HTTP) have the hostname in the protocol (but you can't easily use that in a firewall either because that is _after_ the connection is established, and when TLS is used it's encrypted)
[00:09] <patdk-lap> oh, a layer7 firewall
[00:10] <wingarmac> Another clue I encountered is the reading of IPv6 of a visitor with PHP. Sometimes I get one or the other, but can't get both it seems.
[00:11] <patdk-lap> well, iptables/nftables/ufw doesn't support beyond layber 3, and only supports limited layer4 for masq things like sip/ftp with lots of limitations
[00:12] <patdk-lap> hmm, wouldn't you setup that *firewall* in whatever is doing the reverse proxy for your webservers?
[00:12] <patdk-lap> haproxy/nginx/apache/... can all do it
[00:12] <JanC> it's wg & DNS, I think
[00:12] <patdk-lap> he is bringing up dns and php
[00:12] <patdk-lap> it's very confusing
[00:13] <JanC> ah yes, that's a something new (not the original question)  :)
[00:15] <wingarmac> Well, sorry for that, but I've many more questions. To remain on the second one: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nbSXrcfsSk/
[00:15] <wingarmac> This is my code used for https://ns.wingarmac.org
[00:16] <wingarmac> I thought it was confirmed the firewall can't use names, so I skipped to the next question. Sorry for any confusion.


[22:52] <ikonia> [manas]: the repo it wants to get patch from appears to be down at the moment
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> !pastebinit > Raptors
[22:52] <nacef> Hi there
[22:53] <acerimmer> Raptors: do your windows boot?
[22:53] <cizarr> Hello, anyone knows why after compiling bind i cant see the configuration files? no /etc/bind* .. thanks
[22:53] <nacef> need some help with setting my ubuntu box for dev
[22:53] <Raptors> acerimmer,  yes
[22:53] <nacef> wanna do some web development with symfony
[22:53] <calibre> Ikonia: I wanted to dual boot ubuntu but how do I do it so it wont mess up my computer
[22:53] <acerimmer> Raptors: so the issue is "just" no buntu?
[22:53] <ceelight> nacef: do you mean, you can't compile?
[22:53] <calibre> Ikonia: but the spliting patition part is what makes me nervous on it.
[22:54] <Raptors> acerimmer, I'm in ubuntu right know and cant leave because it wont find linux
[22:54] <ikonia> calibre: just follow the instructions during the install, it shouldn't mess anything up
[22:54] <zylogz80|work> I am trying to launch gnome-shell with "gnome-shell --replace" but it crashes on start. anyone having the same problem?
[22:54] <Raptors> yes
[22:54] <acerimmer> Raptors: are you root?
[22:54] <Raptors> yes
[22:54] <nacef> ceelight, I explain : I wanna develop with symfony
[22:54] <arand> calibre: Pop in and boot the liveCD, choose install side by side, and done, shouldn't be much harder
[22:54] <cizarr> Hello, anyone knows why after compiling bind i cant see the configuration files? no /etc/bind* .. thanks
[22:54] <nacef> so I have to create a new folder for my project under /var/www
[22:54] <ceelight> nacef: ok, sorry, not my business ;)
[22:54] <Jordan_U> Raptors: What did you do to try to add a splash screen?
[22:54] <ikonia> cizarr: why did you compile bind
[22:54] <acerimmer> Raptors: sudo update-grub
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: where did you set sysconfdir to be when you compiled bind ?
[22:55] <cizarr> ikonia, chroot
[22:55] <Raptors> acerimmer, I tried that
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: chroot is not a location
[22:55] <calibre> arand: But dont i have to defrag and all that stuff and split the partition before i dual boot?
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: where did you set sysconfdir to be when you compiled bind
[22:55] <Raptors> Jordan_U, I just followed some of the tutorial
[22:55] <Raptors> Jordan_U, I just followed some of the tutorials
[22:55] <cizarr> ikonia, i know but anyway, i wanted to use the latest version
[22:55] <calibre> arand: and dont i need to backup my windows files?
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: why did you compile bind and not use the pre-build ubuntu package
[22:55] <acerimmer> Raptors: have u tired live cd grub rescue?
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: why ?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> Raptors: Which tutorial?
[22:55] <ikonia> cizarr: what was in the latest version that wasn't in the ubuntu vesion
[22:55] <Raptors> acerimmer, no I'm on linux right know IDK why its not finding it...
[22:55] <drizzt_> why my files keep disppearinmg from /tmp folder?
[22:56] <blue_anna> drizzt_: lol
[22:56] <ikonia> drizzt_: the are cleared down on reboots
[22:56] <DCGstudios> drizzt_: tmp = temporary
[22:56] <noric> Window Rules plugin for Compiz Fusion is not recognising the most basic of rules.  E.g.   class=Emacs, start maximized, not working at all. Thanks.
[22:56] <drizzt_> is it possible to stop it?
[22:56] <cizarr> ikonia, 9.2 i think.. anyway i am on debian, kinda same.. used default configure and make
[22:56] <DCGstudios> drizzt_: yes, save them in a different directory.
[22:56] <Raptors> Jordan_U, http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/InstallUbuntu
[22:56] <calibre> arand: Ya there?
[22:56] <blue_anna> drizzt_: who told you to save files in /tmp, drizzt? :)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> drizzt_: Why do you want to save files in /tmp?
[22:56] <kamouni> hi
[22:56] <arand> calibre: Nothing should be required before installing ubuntu no. But as a general precaution, you should always have a backup. But that goes for everything..
[22:57] <acerimmer> Raptors: ok, deep breath.  probably this is "only" a grub problem.  Good news: all your datas iz safe.  Bad news, u have to jump a very few hoops to reset grub properly.  So, what distro are you using
[22:57] <TrueBlue> hi, does anyone use xubuntu?
[22:57] <ikonia> cizarr: a.) ubuntu is for ubuntu support not debian b.) why did you want the latest version, what's in it that's not in the pre-compiled version c.) where did you set sysconfdir to when you compiled it
[22:57] <drizzt_> i want them eventually deleted, but not on each reboot
[22:57] <ikonia> cizarr: try #debian
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Raptors: Oh, BURG is an unsupported fork. Install real grub.
[22:57] <calibre> arand: So I will backup my windows files and then boot the CD and instead of hitting TRY IT hit install?
[22:57] <Raptors> Jordan_U, I tried doing that after
[22:57] <Raptors> but it wont find linux
[22:58] <drizzt_> so anyway, is there some option controlling it?
[22:58] <cizarr> ikonia, i didnt set any in the configure compile
[22:58] <kamouni> i had ubuntu version 9. yesterday today i had up it to 10 the internet is very slowly now ... how i can fix that
[22:58] <calibre> arand: Wont I have to defrag windows before I install so no corruption happens?
[22:58] <ikonia> cizarr: then it won't be in /etc/bind
[22:58] <ikonia> cizarr: try in #debian
[22:58] <Jordan_U> Raptors: Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy grub-pc grub-common grub burg"?
[22:58] <DCGstudios> drizzt_ : Your better off saving the files in your home directory then removing them when you want.
[22:58] <cizarr> ikonia, cant find it on /etc/.. anyway thanks mate
[22:58] <ikonia> cizarr: it won't be in /etc if you didn't set the sysconfdir
[22:58] <Jordan_U> calibre: No, it's a myth that you need to defrag first.
[22:59] <pingya> where would i go to flush-out the pointer them?  --whenever i do it using the GUI it never really changes
[22:59] <noric> How do I use Window Rules in Compiz Fusion?
[22:59] <calibre> Jordan_U: Are you serious or is that sarcasm?
[22:59] <Jordan_U> calibre: I'm serious.
[22:59] <cizarr> ikonia, which option i need to set on the ./configure ?
[22:59] <cizarr> ikonia, just used ./configure , make and make install
[22:59] <TrueBlue> is a 1.3 GHz processor fast enough for Ubuntu?
[22:59] <ikonia> cizarr: then you sholdn't be doing that
[22:59] <arand> calibre: Doesn't matter if you use "try" or "install", you can install from the "try" environment as well, it's just theat the "install" option is install and nothing more, so it starts a bit quicker and directly into the installer screen
[22:59] <acerimmer> Raptors: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[22:59] <blue_anna> TrueBlue: a pentium II is fast enough
[23:00] <calibre> arand: and I have to split the partition./
[23:00] <cizarr> ikonia, thanks
[23:00] <TrueBlue> xubuntu is running kinda sluggish for me
[23:00] <calibre> arand: That is the scary part.
[23:00] <TrueBlue> and i have a 1.3 GHz processor and 1 gig of ram
[23:00] <Raptors> http://pastebin.com/dHzbu2SP
[23:00] <Raptors> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/dHzbu2SP
[23:00] <calibre> arand: What if I didnt want it anymore one day, then there can be issues.
[23:01] <noric> Uh my compiz fusion settings were destroyed. any way to check for backups?
[23:01] <cizarr> ikonia, ./configure --sysconfdir=/etc will do the job?
[23:01]  * h00ked is away: sleeping mode
[23:01] <ikonia> cizarr: try in #debian
[23:01] <blue_anna> TrueBlue: I'm actually having a bit of sluggishness myself (not to remind anyone of a certain yogurt commercial) -- not sure what to tell you though
[23:01] <Artiom_Fiodorov> how to get lirc to work again? stoped working after suspend
[23:01] <arand> calibre: I don't see how defragging would make a difference, if data is spread to much it will simply not be able to shrink the partition, and it just won't install.
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Raptors: sudo apt-get remove burg
[23:01] <TrueBlue> hmm ok thanks
[23:02] <calibre> arand: Ok so if I wanted to get rid of ubuntu one day, then wont it be problems with the partition?
[23:02] <arand> calibre: In that case, you'd just enlarge the ntfs partition, and use a windows CD to restore the windows bootloader.
[23:02] <jim__> grrr... I have tried everything and can't figure out how to enable plug and play so I can access my cell phone for pics and mp3's, phone is Samsung Slyde m540
[23:02] <calibre> arand: Windows came on my computer so I dont have a disk.
[23:02] <eycel> Does ubunto have to have its own partion, what type of file system can i run ubunto under, can i make a seperate file system?
[23:02] <Raptors> Jordan_U, that didn't do anything
[23:03] <Jordan_U> calibre: You can restore an MS style MBR from within Ubuntu.
[23:03] <Raptors> Jordan_U, its still only finding linux
[23:03] <Raptors> Jordan_U, its still only finding windows
[23:03] <Brandano> jim__: through what? on bluetooth you can transfer files easily
[23:03] <jim__> Brandano: usb
[23:03] <Brandano> jim__: if you use an USB cable it probably shows as a serial port, and uses a custom protocol
[23:03] <dbum> eycel, yes, ext4, yes
[23:03] <arand> calibre: You can also download free "recovery" CDs for windows vista/7 (_legally_)
[23:04] <Brandano> jim__: what does lsusb show?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> calibre: If you are really concerned you can use wubi, which requires no repartitioning
[23:04] <eycel> is the seperate file system ext4? how can i add it?
[23:04] <drizzt_> calibre, just use wubi
[23:04] <calibre> Ok, link please.
[23:04] <[manas]> ikonia, but on my desktop pc update runs perfectly
[23:04] <Jordan_U> !wubi | calibre
[23:05] <jim__> Brandano: nothing is showing anywhere
[23:05] <dbum> eycel: Do you have any unused space on your drive?
[23:05] <jephir> I got an error message that said "Evolution has encountered an error", and everything in my task list disappeared. How do I get my tasks back?
[23:05] <dbum> eycel: Unallotted
[23:05] <arand> calibre: wubi comes on the normal ubuntu iso you download
[23:05] <calibre> arand: So what will I have to do?
[23:05] <drizzt_> calibre, please note that wubi has problems if you have >1 partition and Vista+ Windows
[23:05] <ikonia> [manas]: check the differences in your sources.list
[23:05] <calibre> arand: Just download?
[23:05] <eycel> well right now i have a dead drive actually, im using puppylinux on a live cd...
[23:06] <eycel> but i wana make a ubunto partion with a seperate file system
[23:06] <onetinsoldier> calibre: i'd recommend you just install linux, and forget wubi :-)
[23:06] <calibre> onetinsolider: what would be the difference?
[23:07] <dbum> eycel: when you get a new drive you can make the partitions when you go to install ubuntu
[23:07] <drizzt_> calibre, no significant difference
[23:07] <arand> calibre: Download, click wubi.exe, install. When you don't want it, go to add/remove applications in windows and uninstall, wubi will set up a kind-of dual-boot but it still uses the windows bootloader and doesn't have it's own partition, just a file inside the current windows partititon.
[23:07] <onetinsoldier> calibre: a lot
[23:07] <eycel> what makes having a seperate file system worth while?
[23:07] <dbum> eycel: Usually if your Dual booting you will have a ntfs, ext4, and a SWAP partitions
[23:07] <drizzt_> calibre, obviously you risk a data loss when installing ubuntu for real
[23:08] <acerimmer> calibre: your computer manufacturer should provide a windows dvd but will probably only do so if u requrest it.  check their website.  On Dell's site, this info was kinda well hidden.
[23:08] <VCoolio> eycel: you can fresh install or reinstall without worrying about backup for /home files and configs
[23:08] <calibre> drizzt_: yea that is why i have backups
[23:08] <onetinsoldier> calibre: ok, i've never used wubi... but, i don't need to, to know it's still not like real linux. you might as well install minggw and/or cygwin
[23:08] <eycel> how do i configure the file system?
[23:08] <dbum> eycel: you can't run linux on a ntfs partition..... each has their ups and downs
[23:08] <calibre> Well I wanted ubuntu.
[23:08] <Brandano> jim__: the output from the lsusb command shows you what USB peripherals are attached
[23:08] <drizzt_> onetinsoldier, are you idiot? it's a real ubuntu in virtual drive
[23:09] <pingya> where do the mouse (pointer) theme settings get stored?  if i want to reset the setting could i just delete thee folder?
[23:09] <jim__> Brandano: how do I find the lsusb?
[23:09] <dbum> eycel: Gparted...... They have a Gparted live CD you can download.....but Gparted runs during installation of ubuntu
[23:09] <BluesKaj> drizzt_, no need for insults here
[23:09] <calibre> drizzt_: I wanted to use ubuntu and dual boot, but as long as I have my backups I should be ok eh?
[23:09] <triptych> anyone know some good weather tracking software
[23:09] <Brandano> jim__: open a terminal, type lsusb
[23:09] <sebsebseb> calibre: Wubi puts Ubuntu inside Windows, and does the boot loader stuff,  and does not work exactly like a partitioned install from the Live CD.  For example if something was to go wrong with Ubuntu when it's partitioned, resulting in you not being able to just boot it up,  which is not that likely at all.  You could stick in the Live CD access the partition and the data.  If you have used Wubi it's not that easy to access data if boot up mess's
[23:09] <sebsebseb> up.
[23:09] <eycel> I mean is there something that ives you a choise of making a seperated file system for ubunto
[23:09] <drizzt_> calibre, either way you'll have double-boot system
[23:09] <gmachine_24> Greetings: I need to create a desktop launcher for a program - and the launch code (for lack of a better phrase) is very long and must be run from inside the folder that holds the program files. I've tried to create a launcher but can't figure out the command to launch the code from the folder, call it /home/user/Desktop/programfolder
[23:09] <arand> calibre: I think wubi seems like a good compromise in your case, the differences from a "proper" dual-boot are very small from a user point of view.
[23:10] <dbum> eycel: yup..... Gparted
[23:10] <justin22885> well... i just started a fresh install of ubuntu.. command line system, no gnome or KDE at this point
[23:10] <triptych> anyone know some good weather tracking software
[23:10] <drizzt_> wubi have some complications but still safer then direct install
[23:10] <eycel> does it have to be the same file system used for ubunto install ext4?
[23:10] <calibre> drizzt_: I just dont wanna screw things up.
[23:10] <triptych> anyone know some good weather tracking software
[23:10] <guitar-maniac> Hello, i just upfraded to 10,04. Everything worked fine, but now i cant put anything in my ipod. I could yesterday. It just says that i dont have the permission..
[23:10] <soreau> justin22885: you can still use X without a DE ;)
[23:10] <dbum> eycel ???
[23:10] <calibre> arand:I am a beginner at ubuntu.
[23:10] <sebsebseb> drizzt_: even Wubi can  somtimes screw up,  the safest way is a virtual machine.
[23:10] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: True, but with help from here it's not too hard to walk someone through loop mounting their wubi install with a LiveCD
[23:11] <jim__> Brandano: I did that, here is the line for my phone "Bus 004 Device 022: ID 04e8:6640 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Usb Modem Enumerator
[23:11] <jim__> "
[23:11] <acerimmer> !virtualbox
[23:11] <calibre> arand: So I just need something simple so I can learn, I am in vmware right now.
[23:11] <soreau> guitar-maniac: maybe you don't have permission
[23:11] <justin22885> soreau, im using LXDE.. its like gnome, but lighter
[23:11] <eycel> thanks for help
[23:11] <sebsebseb> calibre: it's not a big deal to set up a a proper partitioend dual boot from the Live CD,  as someone here is making it sound
[23:11] <drizzt_> sebsebseb, (s)he will never know about hardware compatibility then
[23:11] <thesheff17> anyone using lucid and vim and all of a sudden  the home/end keys don't work?
[23:11] <soreau> guitar-maniac: what method are you using to transfer the music?
[23:11] <dbum> !partition | eycel
[23:11] <guitar-maniac> Soreau: I had it yesterday.. havent done anything special. how can it jsut disappear like that?
[23:11] <sebsebseb> calibre: first of all before you do this though, your data should be backed up else where, that you want to keep,  in the unlikely event that data loss happens
[23:11] <guitar-maniac> Rhythmbox. same as allways.
[23:12] <soreau> guitar-maniac: If you ran any command with sudo or as root, it could have screwed up permissions
[23:12] <Juliana_> Hey People! Is it possible to see how much traffic is flowing through a network interface?
[23:12] <calibre> sebsebseb: Ok I will backup my files, then what?
[23:12] <guitar-maniac> oh ok, How can i change them back?
[23:12] <felon> my 10.04 Disc came today ;P
[23:12] <sebsebseb> calibre: also you don't have to install Ubuntu to try it,  just sort yourself out with a Live CD, and boot your computer up from it,  then when your ready and if you want to, you can install it onto the hard disk for real creating a dual boot.  or use Wubi, but in the long run it's better to use real partitions
[23:12] <Brandano> jim__: I found this post, perhaps it can help? http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7332814
[23:12] <pingya> where are mouse settings --especially theme,  stored in the file tree?
[23:12] <soreau> guitar-maniac: not sure where it's failing or which directory you're mounting your ipod to
[23:13] <dbum> !disk | eycel
[23:13] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: remotely? if on your own system.. try out iptraf
[23:13] <guitar-maniac>  ”/media/GUITAR MANI/iPod_Control/Music/F44/01 - When It All Goes Wr~CF.mp3”: this is the output
[23:13] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: iptraf should work ok over ssh i would think also
[23:13] <guitar-maniac> the filepath, everything else was in finnish. Just the error and not permission part
[23:13] <sebsebseb> calibre: Right so you never done anything like this before?  Never done a Linux distro before?
[23:13] <calibre> sebsebseb: I just dont want to suffer from memory loss and stuff if  I end up installing it and then do not want it.
[23:13] <[manas]> ikonia, same thing mate
[23:13] <dbum> How come Ubottu doesn't want to talk for me?
[23:13] <calibre> sebsebseb: no.
[23:13] <sebsebseb> calibre: ok
[23:14] <justin22885> im looking for alternative browsers to firefox
[23:14] <calibre> sebsebseb: I am new to this.
[23:14] <ikonia> [manas]: you need to get the errors from the 404'
[23:14] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: ok, let me try
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> !browsers | justin22885
[23:14] <eycel> thanks
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: ok, good luck :)
[23:14] <dbum> nevermind
[23:14] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: oh, its not installed. any solutions with "inhouse" tools?
[23:14] <eycel> i just wanted a users experience though, iv read tutorials
[23:14] <Fbr> any1 confident with starvoice sv1042?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> calibre: can guide you through how to  download Ubuntu and install it, but so can this manual, as well as Ubuntu basics
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !manual | calibre
[23:14] <Fbr> cant make internet work
[23:15] <justin22885> thats not all of them onetinsoldier, i have chromium and seamonkey right now testing them
[23:15] <onetinsoldier> justin22885: roger.. factoid needs updating it looks like
[23:15] <sebsebseb> calibre: Which version of Windows you got on there at the moment?
[23:15] <calibre> sebsebseb: win 7
[23:15] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: 'inhouse'? you mean ubuntu built-in tools? sure...
[23:16] <jim__> Brandano: thank you, I am checking it now, but I am using the mass storage to pc menu and doesn't work, but will read up
[23:16] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: yes
[23:16] <drizzt_> calibre, if you can make bootable floppy or USB drive, do it
[23:16] <justin22885> im kind of liking chromium, just wish i could get a little search bar like firefox had... or configure the buttons a little better
[23:16] <orbit> hello there, anyone know if there is any update on intel graphics
[23:16] <schlaftier> Midori is a nice browser as well.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> calibre: with Vista people are meant to let it re size itself,  or data loss might happen,  with Windows 7 I don't know.  However just back up the data else where, and installing Ubuntu the usual way,  well is likely to go fine anyway
[23:16] <orbit> i mean better driver
[23:16] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: synaptic for a gui one.. command line would be --> sudo aptitude install iptraf
[23:16] <schlaftier> justin22885: the point with Chromium is that the address bar is also the search bar
[23:16] <Brandano> jim__: does the samsung use some os like windows mobile?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> calibre: first of all you need a Live CD though
[23:17] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: i know how to install stuff. i meant if there are tools i dont have to install.
[23:17] <schlaftier> justin22885: or do you mean something else when you say "search bar"?
[23:17] <calibre> sebsebseb: I will backup my files, and I do have a live CD
[23:17] <justin22885> really? i dont see a search button
[23:17] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: i'm not sure i know what you're asking.. sorry
[23:17] <sebsebseb> calibre: offical CD or one you made?
[23:17] <Brandano> jim__: I suspect you are running a modem app on the phone, which is showing the phone to the PC as a modem rather than a mass storage device
[23:17] <orbit>  anyone know if there is any update on intel graphics drivers?
[23:17] <calibre> sebsebseb: made
[23:17] <schlaftier> justin22885: just type anything which isn't a web address and hit enter
[23:17] <sebsebseb> calibre: if you still got the ISO,  it's a good idea to check that your download is ok
[23:17] <jim__> Brandano: not sure, so how do I correct that?
[23:17] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: how to find out how much traffic is going through a networt interface without installing tools for it.
[23:18] <calibre> sebsebseb: I have it, and it installed fine.
[23:18] <orbit> when i change my background it changes too slow
[23:18] <Brandano> jim__: no idea. Depends on the cell. Perhaps you have a "file transfer" menu somewhere?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> calibre: intalled fine?
[23:18] <calibre> sebsebseb: to the CD it installed to the
[23:18] <justin22885> thats cool
[23:18] <justin22885> can i atleast add a bookmarks or history button or no?
[23:18] <calibre> sebsebseb: The ISO file is ok.
[23:18] <sebsebseb> calibre: it's probably fine, good idea to still check though, but you don't have to
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | calibre
[23:19] <jim__> Brandano: not sure, well I will do some more reading and check here more, someone is bound to know, but thank you for your help, that site might lead me to an answer still :)
[23:19] <calibre> sebsebseb: I will check.
[23:19] <sebsebseb> calibre: anyway right, so you have already tried the Live session from the CD?
[23:19] <[manas]> ikonia, it says failed to fetch and url , use i cant post erros coz i cant install irc lient
[23:19] <calibre> sebsebseb: yes.
[23:19] <bsmith093> how can i stop my monitor from refreshing every 5 seconds!
[23:19] <sebsebseb> calibre: it's easier to check in Ubuntu, but  pretty easy to do on WIndows as well
[23:20] <schlaftier> justin22885: you can have a bookmark bar (always visible or only on the "new tab" page), but I think history is only available from the menu. Chromium is a bit limited when it comes to UI customisation
[23:20] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: if you mean is there anything that come with the standard install, i don't know of one right offhand
[23:20] <Juliana_> onetinsoldier: ok, thank you.
[23:20] <calibre> sebsebseb: what ya mean check on?
[23:20] <calibre> sebsebseb: in?
[23:20] <calibre> sebsebseb: the md5 thing?
[23:21] <justin22885> it appears google chrome extensions will work on chromium too
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> Juliana_: you're welcome
[23:21] <schlaftier> justin22885: yes, they should work
[23:23] <guitar-maniac> Seemed like the fault was in my ipod. Restarted it, and works again!
[23:23] <sebsebseb> calibre: ok may as well do it in Ubuntu itself
[23:23] <lee__> what would be a good IDE for Ubuntu if you're programming with C?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> calibre: I mean from the Live CD
[23:24] <calibre> sebsebseb: ok Well it seems to have loaded well, but I will. Then what do I do?
[23:24] <lostlappy> lee__: geany anjuta vim emacs gedit
[23:24] <sebsebseb> calibre: that way you already used the terminal for something :)
[23:24] <adan_> Hi, does Ubuntu support wireless n pcmcia cards? Thanks.
[23:24] <lee__> lostlappy: thanks...
[23:24] <sebsebseb> calibre: plus you will know how to access your Windows files from Ubuntu
[23:24] <lostlappy> lee__: np
[23:24] <justin22885> yeah, looks like i can download some chrome extensions to do what i need
[23:24] <acerimmer> lee__: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html
[23:24] <box> hey, how can i dump all traffic coming in to a UDP port?
[23:24] <sebsebseb> calibre: it's not that important, when CD seems to work fine, it's good practice though
[23:25] <onetinsoldier> calibre: going for hard drive install? good choice. you'll be happier in the long run :-)
[23:25] <calibre> sebsebseb: I understand, so like, what do I do now?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> calibre: also if you get your data backed up first
[23:25] <zalenix> which is the best browser for Ubuntu???
[23:25] <calibre> sebsebseb: Yea I am about to do that.
[23:25] <sebsebseb> calibre: can guide you through a good set up for the install as well,  you'll be like the 15th or 20th or whatever person, I done this with
[23:25] <zalenix> calibre: which is the best browser for Ubuntu???
[23:26] <sebsebseb> zeltak: no such thing as a best, however Firefox :)
[23:26] <drizzt_> zalenix, Firefox, as long as it goes
[23:26] <jim__> Brandano: that page tells me exactly what I have been doing, apparently for the person on the site it worked, but won't for me... geez lol
[23:26] <calibre> zalenix: Firefox
[23:26] <justin22885> oh beautiful, chrome has an extension to display a website in a faked internet explorer tab, this will be useful because ive ran into websites that wouldnt allow me to use firefox
[23:26] <calibre> sebsebseb: I have to back up my files first though.
[23:26] <calibre> sebsebseb: How long will you be here?
[23:26] <zalenix> But my firefox is hanging nowadays...
[23:26] <zalenix> :(
[23:26] <sebsebseb> calibre: the chance of data loss when doing a partitioned install is not that likely, however sure good idea to do it
[23:26] <acerimmer> calibre: back up everything, defrag your windows disk.  Also check to see if there's a bios upgrade from the manufacturer.  After that, install away.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> acerimmer: bios upgrade what?
[23:26] <drizzt_> zalenix, have you tried zap addons and plugins?
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> justin22885: firefox has an extension you can install that does the same thing
[23:27] <sebsebseb> acerimmer:  calibre  no people should  not upgrade their bios at all, unless there is a proper reason to
[23:27] <calibre> sebsebseb: I have to defrag?
[23:27] <sebsebseb> calibre: no
[23:27] <acerimmer> sebsebseb: for instance, dell put out a bios update about 3 months after i purchased.
[23:27] <calibre> sebsebseb: Ok, I have been recommended to.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> calibre: you could do so though, you see people think, less chance of data loss if you defrag
[23:27] <sebsebseb> calibre: however I have re sized Windows partitions loads of times before, with no defrag first
[23:27] <Dizz> #grandexchange
[23:27] <calibre> sebsebseb: well If I do, that is what the backups are for correct?
[23:27] <drizzt_> sebsebseb, actually manufacturers go to the risk of releasing new firmware for a reason
[23:28] <justin22885> i think im a chromer from now on
[23:28] <Loshki> hi sebsebseb, If you've done 15 or 20 install walkthroughs, maybe it's time to write it down for posterity...
[23:28] <sebsebseb> drizzt_: what reason?  Newer is not always better!  and most people have no proper reason to upgrade the bios
[23:28] <calibre> sebsebseb: If the data is lost i mean, thats what backups are for eh?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Loshki: maybe that was an exegration, but I  have guided quite a lot of people through installing Ubuntu in the past on IRC
[23:28] <walilo> hi. i've problem with ubuntu 10.04 i can't lock the screen
[23:29] <sebsebseb> calibre: yes
[23:29] <sebsebseb> calibre: also got a Windows 7 DVD?
[23:29] <calibre> sebsebseb: I have never resized a partition before
[23:29] <Minato> Bonsoir
[23:29] <calibre> sebsebseb: no i dont, it came with my computer.
[23:29] <sebsebseb> calibre: ok probably a  recovery partition though
[23:30] <onetinsoldier> walilo: how are you trying to lock the screen? i'll try it and see if it's working here
[23:30] <sebsebseb> calibre: either way though,   letting Ubuntu re size your Windows 7 install, is rather unlikely
[23:30] <calibre> sebsebseb: What do ya mean?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> calibre: that it will mess things up
[23:30] <calibre> sebsebseb: What if that happens.
[23:30] <calibre> sebsebseb: What do i do then?
[23:30] <sebsebseb> calibre: then you can go into ##windows and find out how to use the recovery partition, which is probably on there
[23:31] <sebsebseb> calibre: also maybe you don't need Windows at all anymore, depending on what you want to do on a computer, what programs you want to run
[23:31] <calibre> sebsebseb: Ok, so when I backup, I boot the CD and then hit install, then you can help me from there?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> calibre: or uhmm types of programs
[23:31] <walilo> onetinsoldier, with to ways from keybord (fn+ the lock) or from panel
[23:31] <acerimmer> calibre: http://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
[23:31] <bsmith093> seriously how do i stop my monitor from refreshing every 5 second?!? It's really annoying?
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> walilo: how exactly from panel?
[23:31] <calibre> sebsebseb: I just want to have ubuntu, no good reason really.
[23:31] <PleegWat> Just upgraded to lucid, having trouble getting my x server up. Error message is "(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)", google isn't helpful. Booting in recovery mode and starting a failsafe X server works, for some reason. Anyone have any ideas?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> calibre: what was that?
[23:32] <zalenix> WOW THIS CHANNEL IS SO FULL OF ACTIVITY !!!!
[23:32] <Loshki> sebsebseb: no seriously, if you find lots of people are interested, consider writing it up somewhere...
[23:32] <zalenix> :D :D :D :D
[23:32] <calibre> sebsebseb: I would just like to try a new OS.
[23:32] <sebsebseb> calibre: ok
[23:32] <calibre> sebsebseb: I dont want it to screw up windows though.
[23:32] <walilo> onetinsoldier, i don't know the name from the power symbol
[23:32] <sebsebseb> calibre: yes I understand
[23:32] <blue_anna> my dvd tray closes right away on eject, and does'nt eject when I tell it to with hotkeys -- can anyone help me with this? right now I have to catch the drawer while it is open and hold it while fiddling with the dvds , and I feel like evil kanevil or something
[23:32] <gangil> Hi , when I am using icat <device-name> <<file's inode number> , it isnt shoeing the output  ? what's wrong ?
[23:32] <gangil>  For example , I gave : icat /dev/sda1 132610 ,  that's the inode number of a file a.txt that I created on my desktop , and found out uding ls -i a.txt
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> walilo: roger..i found it and just added the little applet. let me try it now
[23:32] <zalenix> and look at the amount of people online
[23:32] <zalenix> MY GOD!!!
[23:32] <calibre> sebsebseb: So I will go backup my files, and then you can help me from there eh
[23:32] <calibre> ?
[23:33] <zalenix> 1629 now
[23:33] <sebsebseb> calibre:  You could probably even convert your Windows 7 install and use it in a virtual machine, if you really wanted later on,  but can get to stuff like that later
[23:33] <primetime34> I just installed lucid to an external hard drive....I have my bios set to load from that hard drive...when I try, it quickly says "operating system not found" which continues to blink over and over again
[23:33] <walilo> onetinsoldier, ok
[23:33] <zalenix> calibre is talk of the town I guess
[23:33] <walilo> onetinsoldier, it was working normely on 9.10
[23:33] <primetime34> BTW, the external is part ubuntu and part ntfs
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> walilo: hmmm, it worked ok here
[23:33] <acerimmer> calibre: youCOULD install virtual box for windows 7 and then create a virtual machine just for ubuntu
[23:33] <zalenix> is she some hot blonde babe
[23:33] <calibre> sebsebseb: Yea, I just wanna dual boot so I can pick what OS i want to use.
[23:33] <zalenix> ?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> calibre: yes back up files, maybe even disk defrag Windows 7 first, as someone suggested, but that will take quite a while probably
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> walilo: did you 'upgrade' to 10.04?
[23:33] <haavaros> I have a server running Ubuntu, which shares a disk with a Windows PC via samba. The problem is that files/folders created by the win pc is owned by nobody:nogroup, with read-only permissions for others. How do I make everything rw-able to everyone? Is chmod -R 666 the answer?
[23:33] <markl_> is it possible to have the screensaver randomly pick between a set of like 10 screensavers that i like?
[23:33] <calibre> sebsebseb: Yea, That will take a while.
[23:33] <zalenix> Why dnt u try it sucker
[23:33] <maden> what are the minimal requirements for ubuntu?
[23:34] <walilo> onetinsoldier, no i installed i pure version :)
[23:34] <sebsebseb> calibre:  acerimmer  security advantage if it's Windows inside a better OS, not the other way round
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> walilo: roger. i don't know. it worked ok here
[23:34] <zalenix> haavaros: Why dnt u try it sucker
[23:34] <zalenix> ?
[23:34] <calibre> sebsebseb: I just wanna have a successful dual boot.
[23:34] <xsaiddx> hello firefox lunch up always on offline mode how can i change that tnx
[23:34] <sebsebseb> calibre:  acerimmer  that way if Windows gets infected, oh well just delete the file,  start over with a  clean copy, or make a new vm
[23:34] <acerimmer> !insult
[23:34] <cherryblossom> hi, new to linux, just installed ubuntu 10 lucid. I have a ultimate edition dvd, can I install packages from it, where are they located on the dvd? please
[23:34] <sebsebseb> calibre: yeah I understand
[23:34] <zalenix> Why is everybody so all over calibre
[23:34] <zalenix> ??
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> walilo: have you poked around in System --> Preferences -- Screensaver ? might find something there...
[23:35] <calibre> lol
[23:35] <primetime34> Anybody have any ideas on my 'no operating system' issue?
[23:35] <calibre> sebsebseb: So I will go defrag, and make my backups.
[23:35] <testi> hiho - someone there who can help me with a routing-problem? :)
[23:35] <zalenix> calibre: this , calibre that .. phew! gimme a break
[23:35] <testi> (i am a newbie)
[23:35] <JamesMR> http://i42.tinypic.com/2e4w0lu.jpg
[23:35] <sebsebseb> calibre: I have never had data loss, when setting up dual boot's and I done a lot of those,  and oh not only with Ubuntu.  However yes the guides and such will say back up data first, and it's a good idea.
[23:35] <Loshki> maden: take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 for system requirements
[23:35] <acerimmer> cherryblossom: u should be able to 'upgrade; to ulitimate from ubuntu.  check the ultimate site
[23:36] <calibre> sebsebseb: So back up and defrag or just backup?
[23:36] <node0> is there a good guide somewhere to install ubuntu 8.04 LTS as a xen node?
[23:36] <zalenix> JamesMR: Why the link u goat?
[23:36] <walilo> onetinsoldier, i'll see thkx:)
[23:36] <mmarc__> hi, guys, couuld you please remind me what is the name of keyboard switching applet in 10.04?
[23:36] <cherryblossom> I dont want to I just want some of the ultimate packages and themes from dvd
[23:36] <calibre> sebsebseb: have you ever defragged before you did a dual boot before?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> calibre: defrag is probably unessary, but may as well
[23:36] <testi> node0 dont know, but a debian-howto should do it too
[23:36] <JamesMR> zalenix: I am a goat?
[23:36] <sebsebseb> calibre: no I don't bother to defrag before doing dual boot
[23:36] <node0> thanks testi
[23:36] <Name141> Is it best to go from 9.10 -> Lucid with a fresh install instead of upgrade?
[23:36] <steve_> I am having a problem with Ubuntu logging me off
[23:36] <blue_anna> mmarc__: keyboard preferences unless you are using the ibus one
[23:36] <calibre> sebsebseb: And  someone told me defragging before is a myth
[23:36] <zalenix> JamesMR: You ave doubts?? :-O
[23:36] <Name141> mm goat bbq
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> walilo: ok, good luck. sorry i didn't know more. you can keep asking in here
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Name141: have you got a clean install of 9.10?
[23:37] <zalenix> I suppose you are one then :P
[23:37] <calibre> sebsebseb: have most of your dual boots been successful?
[23:37] <Name141> sebsebseb: No, it's got xfce/lxde
[23:37] <JamesMR>  I just wanted to share a picture of Ubuntu Netbook 8.04 (I think) on the iPad
[23:37] <sebsebseb> calibre: main thing is to have data backed up,  just in case in the very unlikely event that data loss happens
[23:37] <Name141> sebsebseb; and all that
[23:37] <primetime34> Any way to test that grub is going to look at the correct partition?
[23:37] <drizzt_> is there some free ubuntu administration manuals?
[23:37] <acerimmer> JamesMR: ! Where!
[23:37] <JamesMR> http://i42.tinypic.com/2e4w0lu.jpg
[23:37] <acerimmer> !manual|dirzzt
[23:37] <calibre> sebsebseb: Data loss to windows?
[23:37] <Name141> sebsebseb: VLC also is installed
[23:37] <zalenix> this sebsebseb and calibre definitely have something going on between them
[23:37] <gangil> ??
[23:38] <Loshki> Name141: A fresh install is likely to have fewer problems, but will require more setting up to get the system back to how you like it...
[23:38] <zalenix> They are JUST NOT STOPPING
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Name141: ok right sure, but did you start off with a clean install of 9.10?
[23:38] <gangil> Hi , when I am using icat <device-name> <<file's inode number> , it isnt shoeing the output  ? what's wrong ?
[23:38] <gangil> (4:02:40 AM) gangil:  For example , I gave : icat /dev/sda1 132610 ,  that's the inode number of a file a.txt that I created on my desktop , and found out uding ls -i a.txt
[23:38] <acerimmer> JamesMR: SWEET!
[23:38] <acerimmer> JamesMR: dual boot?
[23:38] <JamesMR> no idea
[23:38] <Name141> sebsebseb: yes.  I upgraded from hardy to 9.10  (fresh install)
[23:38] <mmarc__> ANYBODY KNOWS THE NAME OF KEYBOARD SWITCHIN APPLET??
[23:38] <zalenix> C'mon folks get a life!!!!
[23:38] <sebsebseb> zalenix: stop making the silly comments please,  I am just helping someone who wants to do Ubuntu
[23:38] <zalenix> Take a break, people
[23:38] <acerimmer> !private
[23:38] <JamesMR> someone sent me the image
[23:38] <drizzt_> can you fking read? I said administration guide, not gettingstarted ffs
[23:38] <sebsebseb> Name141:  you upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10?
[23:39] <drizzt_> mmarc__, KEYBOARD SWITCHING APPLET DIED
[23:39] <calibre> sebsebseb: Damage loss to windows?
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Name141: if you started with a clean install of 9.10,  then ok sure upgrade to 10.04,  if not well...
[23:39] <calibre> sebsebseb: How will I know if I had loss of files?
[23:39] <drizzt_> mmarc__, it has been integrated in gnome-session-manager
[23:39] <kurtosis> I'm trying to setup dual monitors. One monitor supports 1280x1024 while the main one supports 1024x768. However if I try to set the resolution of the one to 1280x1024 the graphics appear all distorted and I have to wait for it to revert. Using 10.04. I remember it working on 9.10.
[23:39] <Leonopteryx> i am
[23:39] <Leonopteryx> oops
[23:39] <Karan139> Hey, Im having some issues with wireless on my freshly installed ubuntu, any help?
[23:39] <Leonopteryx> dont mind me
[23:39] <Name141> sebsebseb: I think I'll just wait on the Lucid disk to get here
[23:39] <sebsebseb> calibre: the chance of that is  nearly 0
[23:39] <Name141> sebsebseb: And do a fresh install
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Name141: or make and download your on
[23:39] <mmarc__> drizzt_ you mean what?..
[23:39] <primetime34> My computer isn't booting into the usb drive even though it is listed in bios as bootable.  Any way to check that grub is doing what it ought to?
[23:40] <Name141> sebsebseb: I don't have a CD-R, and the drive is a CD-RW on the old machine
[23:40] <testi> INET <> router 1 <> DMZ <> router 2 <> LAN,    router2 acts as vpn-gw to LAN, tunnel is up and i want to add a route to the DMZ over tap0, but i got an error:    SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:40] <testi> , anyone who can help me please?
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Name141: if you upgraded from 8.04 to 9.10,  well no Ext4 or Grub 2 for you by default, but you don't really need those anyway
[23:40] <calibre> sebsebseb: Ok, well i will go backup my files ok? and I will brb, I am still gunna be here just idle, because I am backing up.
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Name141: and then if you upgrade that 9.10 to 10.04, yep what I just said
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Name141: upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04, will probably work alright for you
[23:40] <calibre> sebsebseb: By the way, How are you gunna help me when I have to change over to the disk?
[23:40] <drizzt_> mmarc__, it is no more, now session manager displays keyboard layout itself
[23:40] <sebsebseb> calibre: you can come on IRC on the Live CD
[23:40] <Name141> sebsebseb: Unless you know a CDless way do a fresh install with the alternative ISO ?
[23:40] <zalenix> this sebsebseb really seems to be a linux Guru. Great respect for people with knowledge.  I do not know if people acknowledge this or not, but I am doing so on their behalf: Thank YOU .. :)
[23:41] <calibre> sebsebseb: oh I can unstall within the TRY IT?
[23:41] <Name141> sebsebseb: that doesn't involve Flash drives
[23:41] <calibre> install*
[23:41] <drizzt_> calibre, do wubi install
[23:41] <testi> lol
[23:41] <Karan139> The Ubuntu documentation says it supports my wireless chip, but I still cant connect or see my wireless networks. Any help? Im using 10.04 freshly installed!
[23:41] <mmarc__> drizzt_, session manager = gdm or kdm? But i need keyboards layouts on my desktop - where to get them now?
[23:41] <calibre> drizzt_: ok, um..
[23:41] <testi> so, nice to be ignored - its an ubuntu-system that produce the error... help? :P
[23:42] <sebsebseb> zalenix: Linux guru no,  someone who has used Ubuntu scine second release in 2005 yes.  oh and now isn't that keen on Ubuntu anymore for various,  other distros :)   and  well  better people use Ubuntu than Windows
[23:42] <calibre> drizzt_: I have the CD, so when I go into the try it part, I can install within the TRY it? right?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> zalenix: stupid typos, for various reasons, above
[23:42] <Karan139> The Ubuntu documentation says it supports my wireless chip, but I still cant connect or see my wireless networks. Any help? Im using 10.04 freshly installed!
[23:42] <GeekSquid> !anyone | testi
[23:42] <drizzt_> calibre, yes, see what is there in WIndows, wubi is there
[23:42] <walilo> please i need help
[23:42] <calibre> drizzt_: But sebsebseb was gunna help me do it.
[23:42] <GeekSquid> !ask | walilo
[23:42] <zalenix> Dont worry sebsebseb , keep the good work.
[23:43] <drizzt_> mmarc__, it is gnome settings daemon
[23:43] <calibre> drizzt_: from within the CD
[23:43] <zalenix> I leave for now. ye everyone!!!
[23:43] <drizzt_> it shows current layout in notification area
[23:43] <zalenix> BYE
[23:43] <sebsebseb> calibre: yes you will do the try Ubuntu on CD
[23:43] <justin22885> k.. ive added a bookmarks button and history button to chromium.... aah, i guess im good to go then, all set
[23:43] <Loshki> testi: we're not ignoring you. Your question is complex and it might take a while before someone who knows enough about it comes on line. You can try repeating your question once every 15 minutes or so, or try the forums...
[23:43] <walilo> locking the screen may impossible
[23:43] <sebsebseb> calibre: come on IRC,  and i'll guide you through the installer
[23:43] <blue_anna> my dvd tray closes right away on eject, and does'nt eject when I tell it to with hotkeys -- can anyone help me with this? right now I have to catch the drawer while it is open and hold it while fiddling with the dvds , and I feel like evil kanevil or something
[23:43] <theGman> Ok, I installed upstart as it seemed to be recommended by splasy (which wouldn't install - something about splashy-themes being broken or something) but now I get stuck at the splash screen and when I hit the power buttn it seems upstart is stuck...How can I resolve this?
[23:43] <calibre> sebsebseb: I have to backup first.
[23:43] <sebsebseb> calibre: and you will probably end up with a set up that is a bit better than the default set up, but  well we'll see
[23:43] <calibre> sebsebseb:and on TRY IT I cant get on Xchat
[23:44] <primetime34> What is the location of the grub2 file?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> calibre: you can if you install it
[23:44] <testi> loshki i tried a lot of forums, but i dont find an answer ;)
[23:44] <calibre> sebsebseb: Yea i know but I need your guidance through it.
[23:44] <sebsebseb> calibre: hrm
[23:44] <sebsebseb> calibre: maybe not
[23:44] <Loshki> blue_anna: I had a dvd burner that started doing that, there's not much you can do about it. If a reboot doesn't fix it, you may just have to accept the fact that it's broken and get a new one. Moving part technology is often the first thing that goes bad...
[23:44] <drizzt_> we all will be happy to provide you guidance
[23:44] <acerimmer> primetime34: Place>Search for Files>*grub*
[23:44]  * sebsebseb checks Ubuntu Manual well about to
[23:44] <calibre> sebsebseb: after I back up I will pop in the disk.
[23:45] <calibre> sebsebseb: and I will hit install.
[23:45] <drizzt_> but decide something already
[23:45] <calibre> sebsebseb: Then what?
[23:45] <walilo> it's impossible to lock the screen i am on ubuntu 10.04 .. help please
[23:45] <testi> primetime34 'find / -name "grub" |grep conf' :)
[23:45] <sebsebseb> calibre: where you going to back up data to by the way?
[23:45] <Loshki> testi: that just reinforces my comment that your question is complex. So it will take a while to find 'someone who knows'...
[23:45] <drizzt_> calibre, then choose your mother language and follow the instructions bah
[23:46] <calibre> sebsebseb: I was gunna backup on a USB drive.
[23:46] <primetime34> Any idea how to make grub try and boot from a secondary hard drive?
[23:46] <justin22885> hmm.. now what...
[23:46] <Geico> hmm
[23:46] <Geico> this is a huge channel
[23:46] <blue_anna> Loshki: no, it works in the other operating system ... just not on ubuntu
[23:46] <Geico> ubuntu is easy stuff
[23:46] <mmarc__> drizzt_, found! Thank you.
[23:46] <Geico> and the best
[23:46] <magicianlord> hmm
[23:46] <sebsebseb> calibre: right  download the Ubuntu Manaul
[23:47] <Geico> i only wish it could run etoile
[23:47] <sebsebseb> calibre: there's a whole chapter with screenshots on installation
[23:47] <magicianlord> alt+number is not working in switching windows in irssi. could this be due to using xterm to launch it?
[23:47] <calibre> sebsebseb: I can backup to a USB drive right?
[23:47] <dumont> i have a problem where I put my desktop into standby mode and instead of going into standby/suspend, the computer stays on, and the screen shows the switch user dialogue, why isn't it going into standby? using ubuntu 9.10
[23:47] <sebsebseb> !manual | calibre
[23:47] <Loshki> blue_anna: weird, so it's a software malfunction? What os release?
[23:47] <blue_anna> Loshki: Lucid
[23:47] <sebsebseb> calibre: sure depending on what data you have, and how much space it takes up
[23:47] <magicianlord> dumont: power management doesnt always work in ubuntu
[23:47] <blue_anna> Loshki: Lucid on powerpc
[23:47] <wildbat> primetime34, you have the grub menu to do so if grub detected your 2nd HD got a OS
[23:47] <arand> magicianlord: possibly, terminator tends to do well.
[23:48] <magicianlord> i use xterm or lxterminal. let me try the latter
[23:48] <dumont> magicianlord why not?
[23:48] <dumont> and how to fix it?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> calibre: I was thinking before, seperate home get that set up on install, but you may as well just go with the standard guided install
[23:48] <calibre> sebsebseb: Ok I will back up and then I guess pop in the CD and install and follow the directions, Will I have to screw with the partitions thing at all?
[23:48] <abhiSri> hello , i want to know , how i can adopt any orphand package
[23:48] <jim__> Brandano: just tried another cell phone I have with usb and still didn't prompt me, so it is a setting in Ubuntu...
[23:48] <primetime34> wildbat:  my 2nd hard drive has two partitions and one of them has lucid installed.  However, when I try to start up, it isn't booting into it
[23:48] <testi> loshki i can't believe, that there is nobody who knows lol - i'm a network-newbie and i thought that here are really pro's
[23:48] <sebsebseb> calibre: the way I was thinking before yes,  the standard default way no, it will do that for you,  no seperate home though, but by the sounds of it you don't really have a proper reason for that anyway
[23:48] <wildbat> !grub2 | primetime34
[23:48] <testi> loshki i just cant understand the error :)
[23:49] <wildbat> primetime34, try update-grub2
[23:49] <sebsebseb> calibre: download the Ubuntu Manual and check it out
[23:49] <calibre> sebsebseb: So just follow what the CD says
[23:49] <sebsebseb> calibre: installation chaper and so on, that really does explain things well
[23:49] <Brandano> jim__: it really depends a lot on the cellphone and what it appears as on USB
[23:49] <Razass> Hi, how can I get a list of the hardware currently attached to the system? I have 2 hard drives that arent showing up
[23:49] <sebsebseb> calibre: it guies you through the install of Ubuntu as well
[23:49] <primetime34> What should my grub.cfg file say if it is trying to boot from a '3rd' hard drive?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> guides
[23:49] <testi> lshw
[23:49] <bentspace> Does any have the Windows shares work on clean 10.04 install by going to Places->Network->Windows Network->MSHOME->Double click on one of the Network Computers?
[23:49] <testi> whoups - razass - lshw
[23:49] <Brandano> jim__: could be a mass storage device, a serial port, an MTP device, a photocamera...
[23:49] <calibre> sebsebseb: ok I will read it one sec
[23:50] <Razass> testi: thanks ill check that out
[23:50] <jim__> Brandano: yes, but still need to get it resolved...
[23:51] <Brandano> jim__: have you see if you have some sort of "sync" menu item on the cellphone? Some phones have that
[23:51] <theGman> Ok, I installed upstart as it seemed to be recommended by splasy (which wouldn't install - something about splashy-themes being broken or something) but now I get stuck at the splash screen and when I hit the power buttn it seems upstart is stuck...How can I resolve this?
[23:51] <Nemeth782> hey people :)
[23:51] <drizzt_> Places->Network? that's a Gnome thing
[23:51] <node0> where can i get an ubuntu installer source like this? http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-amd64/
[23:51] <Loshki> testi: there are definitely some serious pros here, but they don't hang around 24/7, as they are in heavy demand. So you need to be patient. I think the best time to try is between 7pm and midnight PST when the california computer nerds come home, have dinner, and log in...
[23:51] <primetime34> Now it doesn't say 'no operating system' but is just sitting on the blinking cursor in upper left hand corner
[23:52] <jim__> Brandano: no I didn't but will check it, don't recall that though..  this can't be this difficult though
[23:52] <magicianlord> all right man. this worked. for some reason, in xterm, alt+number doesnt work in irssi
[23:52] <Bravewolf> why grub2 in blockfile configuration is considered unreliable?
[23:52] <Brandano> node0: the liveusb images can also be installed from windows
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Loshki: yeah that's the time you tend to be active in here at?
[23:52] <magicianlord> What is the reason for using Grub 1.98 instead of .98?
[23:52] <Razass> testi: ok the hard drives are in that list but they don't show up in the file system....
[23:52] <testi> loshi how late is it in your country? here its 1 am
[23:52] <Loshki> blue_anna: sorry, Lucid and a PPC complicates things. I'm not sure I can help you. You can ask again every 15 minutes or so...
[23:52] <node0> Brandano: I'm trying to install Ubuntu hardy LTS as a virtual machine in Xen
[23:52] <Brandano> jim__: if the telephone says to the PC that it's a modem, the PC will see a modem, and not a disk
[23:52] <iceroot> magicianlord: grub legancy is not supported aymore by grub
[23:52] <node0> i need to provide an install source
[23:53] <testi> razass checked /etc/fstab?
[23:53] <magicianlord> iceroot: what is the difference?
[23:53] <iceroot> !grub2 | magicianlord
[23:53] <GeekSquid> node0: the install source would be the .iso
[23:53] <calibre> sebsebseb: When I do install it how will it know I want to dual boot.
[23:53] <Nemeth782> so, home server connected to two internet connections (home network is 192.168.0.xxx, main gateway on <IP_ADDRESS>, 2nd on <IP_ADDRESS>)..... On windows I can easily route all connections to a specific IP range to the 2nd gateway, and leave all other connections to the main gateway.... is this possible for me on Ubuntu?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> calibre: it won't,  you will get three options, and you will go for the dual boot option
[23:53] <drizzt_> calibre, it suppose to detect Windows 7 loader
[23:53] <node0> GeekSquid: it didnt work :(
[23:54] <testi> loshki how late is it in your country? here its 1 am
[23:54] <iceroot> Nemeth782: yes its possible, man route
[23:54] <Brandano> node0: you will have to mount the iso
[23:54] <wildbat> primetime34, so where you at ?
[23:54] <sebsebseb> drizzt_: no he wasn't asking about booting up
[23:54] <Loshki> sebsebseb: Well, I'm not typical, but I assume the CCNs (California Computer Nerds) would come on line in the evenings after the kids go to bed. Some of the UKers of course keep different hours, being 8 hours ahead...
[23:54] <primetime34> wildbat:  idaho, USA
[23:54] <GeekSquid> node0:  you might get better help in ##xen or #ubuntu-virt
[23:54] <Razass> testi: they aren't in fstab
[23:54] <node0> ok GeekSquid thanks much
[23:54] <testi> Cisco Certified Network's :P lol
[23:55] <node0> Brandano: how do i mount an iso?
[23:55] <wildbat> primetime34, i mean your computer screen ~ you said no os
[23:55] <testi> razass tried to mount them manually?
[23:55] <jim__> Brandano: hnmmmm... ok, so what's my next move?
[23:55] <Loshki> testi: it's 4pm in the afternoon in California. Most nerds are at work, or having their afternoon nap, or picking kids up from daycare...
[23:55] <Razass> testi: no, not sure how.....windows shows them as 'unallocated' aka unformatted
[23:55] <primetime34> wildbat:  haha...yeah, it would just flash between no os and a flashing cursor
[23:55] <sebsebseb> testi: there is useaully at least one, pretty expereinced user, active here
[23:56] <Brandano> node0: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[23:56] <kylezoa> node0: http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2008/02/24/how-to-mount-iso-images-in-ubuntu-the-ea?blog=2
[23:56] <testi> loshki lol - means i have to be up at 4 am only because of that routing-problem? lol :D
[23:56] <kylezoa> node0: or do what Brandano says
[23:56] <wildbat> primetime34, aftert eh boot menu?
[23:56] <Loshki> testi: unfortunately for you, right now it's me and sebsebseb (apologies to anyone else who is a nerd on-line right now)
[23:56] <Karan139> The Ubuntu documentation says it supports my wireless chip, but I still cant connect or see my wireless networks. Any help? Im using 10.04 freshly installed!
[23:56] <theGman> Really need some help here...as of now, I can't get back into my ubuntu! Anyone?
[23:56] <testi> sebsebseb :/
[23:56] <node0> ok.. thank you kylezoa Brandano
[23:56] <primetime34> wildbat:  bios boot...I don't ever see a linux boot
[23:57] <sebsebseb> Karan139: you mean this page said it's suupported?
[23:57] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Karan139
[23:57] <Loshki> testi: well, most people in other time zones use the forums more than IRC I would imagine, since it doesn't have to be in real-time...
[23:57] <testi> if anyone feels happy helping me - just tell it to me - elseway ill try to help a lil bit :)
[23:57] <sebsebseb> testi: uhmm  just come in here when you want help
[23:57] <Brandano> jim__: identify WHAT the cellphone tells the PC. Find out if it's right. If it isn't find how to get it to say the right thing. profit
[23:57] <sebsebseb> testi: if your lucky, someone will be able to help, that is there at the time
[23:57] <wildbat> primetime34, so you never see a grub menu? ~ boot with shift key hold down and see ~ not same message you got, you Bios set to boot a wrong drive
[23:58] <lucid_lynx> In Ubuntu Lucid, is it possible to move the close/maximize/minimize buttons from the left side of the window title to the right side?
[23:58] <testi> loshki - time doesnt matter :)
[23:58] <testi> sebsebseb thats true -.-
[23:58] <|izzie> i am taking an exam that is in pdf form.... I have to submit the original pdf with the answers included ... i see that there is an xpdf reader, but is there an editor so that i can enter the answers as text?  (i also need to put some answers in image files..)
[23:58] <jim__> Brandano: hnmmmm... ok, well no clue how to...
[23:58] <calibre> sebsebseb: So this is my plan, 1. backup my files 2 put in the CD 3 choose to install rather than TRY IT, 4 click use side by side so it wil dual boot 5 fill out my info then bam it should work?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !controls | lucid_lynx
[23:58] <sebsebseb> lucid_lynx: yay another person to ask about that, you just made my night :D
[23:58] <Loshki> testi: maybe if you're a Time Lord. The rest of us, however....
[23:58] <testi> loshki no, unemployed lol
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !ot | Loshki
[23:59] <Loshki> sebsebseb: I can't believe you just ot'ed me...!
[23:59] <sebsebseb> lucid_lynx: about 200 or so people complained about that, when 10.04 was in development, by the way
[23:59] <justin22885> damn it.. my audio doesnt work
[23:59] <sebsebseb> Loshki: you were going on a bit to much with the time stuff
[23:59] <calibre> sebsebseb: So this is my plan, 1. backup my files 2 put in the CD 3 choose to install rather than TRY IT, 4 click use side by side so it wil dual boot 5 fill out my info then bam it should work?
[23:59] <Loshki> sebsebseb: :-)


[00:52] <fta> -chromium-browser (<IP_ADDRESS>~svn20081120r5786-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[00:52] <fta> +chromium-browser (<IP_ADDRESS>~svn20090116r8242-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[00:52] <fta> D'oh
[21:50] <[reed]> The next Ubuntu Mozilla Team meeting will be tomorrow,
[21:50] <[reed]>     Sunday, ##DAY## ##MONTH##, ##TIME## UTC
[21:50] <[reed]> in #ubuntu-meeting on FreeNode network (irc.freenode.org).
[21:50] <[reed]> lol


[00:29] <powersj> blackboxsw: may also consider running with lxc from ppa
[00:29] <powersj> I know smoser and I both run artful, which will have latest and greatest, and base version in xenial probably isn't totally going to have everything
[00:30] <powersj> ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lxc/+archive/ubuntu/stable?field.series_filter=xenial
[00:53] <smoser> powersj, blackboxsw yeah, i figured i might need to address different lcx versions.
[01:35] <redcavalier> blackboxsw, good evening. Were you able to have a look to the cloud.cfg I posted?
[02:03] <blackboxsw> redcavalier:thanks for posting. hmm ok looks like you have resizefs as you mentioned. only difference I'm seeing from ubuntu related to disks  is you are missing a  disk_setup in your cloud config modules... but I don't think that alone would preclude you from resizing
[02:03] <redcavalier> yea, it has always worked before the upgrade, with that cloud.cfg
[02:05] <redcavalier> Hence why I think there's definitely a bug there and why I assumed it is related to the vendordata issue, but it could also be an error that'S not logged
[02:05] <redcavalier> I mean, do you think the vendordata issue could prevent growpart from running?
[02:07] <blackboxsw> redcavalier: I talked w/ smoser today about your bug, we're hoping to work out a fix for that in earnest  next week. At least the vendordata_raw will be sorted in 17.1+ shortly (and you'd be able to pull our daily builds from copr).
[02:08] <redcavalier> Ah, then we'll see if that'S the cause or if there's something else
[02:08] <blackboxsw> redcavalier: I don't believe that is really breaking the resize is the thing..... I just don't see that module even running on your attached cloud-init.log
[02:08] <blackboxsw> that's what baffles me. I see other cloudinit modules running
[02:09] <redcavalier> It's definitely running at least once though. Let me give you a small explanation regarding what we do.
[02:09] <blackboxsw> maybe you could share some of your #cloud-config with us/me in pvt message ? I'll share with scott as we look this over on Monday. my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if there is stuff you want to keep semi-private. (or you could redact some of the content)
[02:10] <redcavalier> We actually have a VM that's constantly running. To create (and update) our images, we make a snapshot of it's volume, convert it to image and then boot up on a new volume.
[02:11] <redcavalier> Our latest image is still on the older cloud-init, so the VM does resize on first boot. I do believe that should at least be in the log. It's not though.
[02:12] <redcavalier> We don't even erase the log from the previous VM when we create an image, so the file is already there when the VM boots.
[02:12] <redcavalier> I don'T really get it.
[02:13] <redcavalier> Anyhow, I'll send you a copy of our cloud-init by email, it'll give you a good idea.
[02:14] <blackboxsw> on 17.1 you could run "cloud-init analyze show" on the commandline and it'd give a simple breakdown of what modules ran from your cloud-init.log files and how long it took. I'd also expect to see growpart and resizefs in that report
[02:15] <blackboxsw> thanks for the additional context. it'll help us understand what might be happening
[02:15] <redcavalier> ah, there might be a thing I forgot to say also
[02:15] <redcavalier> The cloud-init daemon is crashed
[02:15] <redcavalier> Like, the daemon doesn'T start
[02:16] <redcavalier> again, the only error it gives in journalctl is that it can'T retrieve the vendordata, but I think there's something else
[02:17] <blackboxsw> hrm. ok I'll poke at centos7 again tonight/this weekend just to make sure we can run. we test all the time in lxc w/ centos, but I'm not sure how frequent our coverage is on openstack
[02:18] <redcavalier> Ok. All this makes me wonder if there's something wrong in our user data
[02:23] <blackboxsw> it also might be worth a quick check of the pickled datasource object
[02:23] <blackboxsw> redcavalier: something like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25735734/
[02:24] <blackboxsw> just find the pkl filename under /var/lib/cloud
[02:24] <blackboxsw> then you can pkl load it and check userdata  userdata_raw vendordata vendordata_raw on your instance
[02:24] <blackboxsw> make sue it has the content you expect
[02:25] <redcavalier> Alright, I'll do that. Not right now because it'S Saturday morning here, but I'll have a look monday
[02:26] <redcavalier> Just sent the email
[02:27] <blackboxsw> thanks again. we'll be in touch
[02:27] <blackboxsw> yeah, it's Friday night, gotta get some movie time in ;)
[02:27] <blackboxsw> have a good weekend
[02:30] <redcavalier> You too! see ya next week


[15:33] <topyli> Resistance: so maybe we should request a cloak for you that actually works? trekweb/administrator/ubuntu.resistance or ubuntu/member/trekweb.resistance
[20:37] <cjohnston> greetings, could we please add a bug bot to #ubuntu-design


[09:01] <iRaven> good morning all...
[09:03] <tdr112> morning
[09:06] <iRaven> whats the craic ?
[09:09] <zmoylan-pi> tis a monday.  keep your head down till tuesday arrives :-)
[09:10] <ebel> morning!
[09:14] <iRaven> aye   I hate mondays :o(
[09:23] <slashbel> tuesday arrives… you mean pancake tuesday
[09:23] <zmoylan-pi> is that tomorrow? i should expect to see lemons and pancake mix every where then?
[09:24] <iRaven> yes i think it is tomorrow
[09:24] <slashbel> we have faschings tomorrow, carnival and sweets thrown into the crowd
[09:25] <iRaven> nice
[09:25] <iRaven> not allowed to do that here
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> i did see a few references to carnival in news stories so that would suggest lent all right
[09:26] <iRaven> they used to but the sweets kept hurting people so health & safety stept in and said no ...
[09:26]  * zmoylan-pi breaks out the marshmallows :-)
[09:26] <iRaven> well ppl dont think like that do they