[16:31] <charlie-tca> hm, wonder if giving developers ACE bandages and having the wrap their hands would show them how accessibility works?
[18:34] <UndiFineD> hajour speaking here. Pendulum  is it ok if i write for accessibility column about what i am busy with to. working together so ubuntu will become official volunteer work .so people can work to for ubuntu with keeping there well fair .and people with having issues same idea.?or need it only to be about programming?
[18:35] <UndiFineD> i was today by government instance from people with issues
[18:35] <UndiFineD> i really miss my notebook.it was better then nothing
[18:40] <UndiFineD> friesland is very ager to keep fries language alive.there is also now slowly go build up ubuntu-nl-fr .so on that way i will help ubuntu-nl-fr for translating.people who now sitting home will have a kind of work.with keeping money for pay there bills and cityhall will be happy.because there will be more action for keeping fries language alive
[18:40] <UndiFineD> for to start
[18:41] <UndiFineD> so i will get more opening to get people to work. like devs and designers ect
[18:41] <UndiFineD> AlanBell, charlie-tca ^
[18:43] <UndiFineD> btw i really need a notebook like i had.because i now not am able to get my private files from my old eeepc
[18:43] <UndiFineD> need the info what is on my old notebook
[18:44] <UndiFineD> speaking about a very bad timing for my notebook to die :(
[19:18] <UndiFineD> o  cprofitt  see above / i am hajour not UndiFineD
[19:20] <charlie-tca> hajour: you got it approved by the government?
[19:22] <UndiFineD> busy with cityhal and the inbstance for handicap people
[19:23] <UndiFineD> they say i need to go to government self.for to get money for it
[19:23] <charlie-tca> It is a start.
[19:23] <UndiFineD> but they found the idea very good
[19:24] <UndiFineD> but i need first to solve some money isseus by example how to come by the airport for to go to uds and from airport to hotelect
[19:24] <UndiFineD> ect.
[19:25] <UndiFineD> also need to pay 50 euro for vaccinations to
[19:25] <UndiFineD> then saving money for to go to the city where government is for to go talk about itr
[19:25] <UndiFineD> -r
[19:26]  * UndiFineD hate lways the barrier from money issues
[19:26] <UndiFineD> then my mayor problem that y eeepc is dead
[19:26] <UndiFineD> y=my
[19:27] <UndiFineD> charlie-tca, ^
[19:27] <charlie-tca> I see
[19:28] <charlie-tca> It looks like a lot all at one time
[19:28] <UndiFineD> when needed i go walk to airport al will i do about it a week
[19:29] <UndiFineD> 10 minutes walk then rest 10 minutes walk ect
[19:29] <UndiFineD> nobody will keep me away from uds
[19:29] <UndiFineD> not after all the trouble to get sponsoring
[19:30] <charlie-tca> Keep receipts too
[19:30] <UndiFineD> receipts =?
[19:31] <UndiFineD> charlie-tca,  do they have pc s available in hotel from uds?
[19:31] <charlie-tca> for any buses, meals, etc
[19:32] <charlie-tca> keep the papers show what you pay for anything
[19:32] <charlie-tca> um, I don't think they do have pc's available.
[19:32] <charlie-tca> I had none the last uds
[19:32] <UndiFineD> charlie-tca,  i not have money to pay it forwards to you see
[19:32] <IdleOne> I don't think they provide any pc or laptop at uds
[19:32] <IdleOne> you need to bring your own
[19:34] <AlanBell> you don't *need* to bring your own, but pretty much everyone does
[19:34] <UndiFineD> maybe i can borowing the laptop from my daughter. with exam she not may use here own so
[19:34] <AlanBell> you could use pen and paper
[19:34] <AlanBell> or not make notes
[19:34] <UndiFineD> i write and after i not can read back my own note s
[19:35] <AlanBell> it would be best to have a laptop
[19:35] <AlanBell> however it isn't essential
[19:35] <UndiFineD> i go ask my daughter tomorrow it only 1 week
[19:35] <UndiFineD> it is i mean
[19:36] <UndiFineD> still i need to resolve this.its hard to lead a team if you not have a pc/laptop
[19:37] <charlie-tca> I used a notebook last UDS, and wrote notes for me to have.
[19:37] <UndiFineD> i think the problem is my battery or cabel  from
[19:38] <UndiFineD> my eeepc


[01:03] <FernandoMiguel> nite
[09:43] <micahg> trying to fix up chromium, but failing (at least for precise)
[09:44] <micahg> I pushed up the patch refresh, so we'll see if anything else builds tomorrow
[09:48]  * micahg is wondering HTH it built for that person in their PPA and won't build for me
[09:48] <micahg> meh, leaving for another day
[12:26] <gnomefreak> was chromium PPA updated for 12.04?
[18:15] <gnomefreak> it doesnt look like it
[18:19] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, i'm  still catching up from christmas, and chromium stuff is generally quite low priority
[18:19] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: ok thats fine i was just checking in
[18:19] <gnomefreak> thanks
[18:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: why weren't the lucid kubuntu-firefox-installer replaces needed on beta?  I still need to upload a new version to lucid with the proper replaces
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> micahg, the lucid beta branch already has it
[18:49] <micahg> I wasn't aware of per-release bet abranchs
[18:49] <micahg> *beta branches
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> goodbye hanging tests :)
[20:11] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[20:12] <cousin_luigi> Is there a forum or a mailing list to follow the mozillateam vicissitudes?
[20:14] <micahg> used to be in /topic...there's ubuntu-mozillateam at lists dot ubuntu dot com, but I'm still clearing the moderation backlog
[20:15] <cousin_luigi> micahg: I just wanted to know about upcoming stable versions without always coming here to bother you lot.
[20:15] <cousin_luigi> Going to subscribe to that then.
[20:16] <cousin_luigi> Speaking of which, what's stalling ff9?
[20:16] <micahg> cousin_luigi: oh, hum, well, we try to push them out as soon as possible, this time it was due to Mozilla deciding to wait to push updates along with the lack of people working during the last week of Dec in case of breakage
[20:17] <micahg> cousin_luigi: coming today, it's been in -proposed for almost 2 weeks
[20:17] <cousin_luigi> micahg: Does the team communicate elsewhere than here?
[20:18] <micahg> not really, I should really blog, I'll try to get that set up before 12.04 is released
[20:18] <cousin_luigi> okok
[20:18] <cousin_luigi> thanks
[20:18]  * micahg guesses he could dent the updates
[20:19] <cousin_luigi> in what way?
[20:19] <micahg> identi.ca
[20:19] <micahg> microblog
[20:20] <micahg> our goal is to release within 24 hours of upstream, but the new rapid release process doesn't make this easy
[20:21] <cousin_luigi> Guessed as much:\
[20:21] <cousin_luigi> By the way, do you think that phasing out the 3.6.x line will cause problems in corporate environments?
[20:23] <micahg> cousin_luigi: well, Mozilla is trying to work with enterprises: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal
[20:25] <cousin_luigi> micahg: Interesting.
[20:26] <chrisccoulson> micahg, what's happening with lucid and maverick -proposed? none of the supporting packages have been uploaded yet, so it's still broken :(
[20:27] <chrisccoulson> if at least ubufox isn't going to be uploaded shortly, we just kill the whole thing. i wouldn't have even left that incompatible in precise for that long ;)
[20:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: gah, I meant to do that over vacation, I can get ubufox at least uploaded tonight, the rest will be done by Monday before the call for testing goes out
[20:28] <micahg> chrisccoulson: Firefox is usable without ubufox (was at least for me), that's why I copied it in the first place
[20:29] <chrisccoulson> micahg, sure. except without it, we lose the default startpage
[20:29] <chrisccoulson> we can't drop quality like that in stable releases (even in proposed), when we're committed to not even dropping the ball like that in precise
[20:30] <micahg> aye, will upload in a few minutes
[20:30] <micahg> chrisccoulson: we don't have branches for this right?, just grab from the PPA?
[20:30] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah, that's right
[20:41] <micahg> ok, ubufox is building, once it's done, I'll have it copied to -proposed
[20:46] <chrisccoulson> micahg, thanks
[20:46] <chrisccoulson> cousin_luigi, if you're interested in stuff, i'll porbably post occasionally to http://www.chriscoulson.me.uk/blog/ ;)
[20:47] <chrisccoulson> (in fact, i'm just about to write another post once i've got these tests working)
[20:48] <micahg> maybe next week is a good time for me to get a blog up when I send out the call for testing (hopefully) for the lucid/maverick rapid release migration
[20:49] <micahg> \o/ chromium stable builds again
[20:50] <micahg> at least on oneiric :-/
[20:51] <cousin_luigi> chrisccoulson: interesting
[20:52] <cousin_luigi> chrisccoulson: especially the part about ppa for betas
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> cousin_luigi, yeah, they're all kept up-to-date
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> in fact, i'm done for firefox 10 already (with the exception of the remaining beta releases between now and release day) ;)
[21:39] <micahg> jdstrand: can you please copy ubufox/mozilla-devscripts from ubuntu-security-proposed to {lucid,maverick}-proposed?
[21:41] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[21:41] <jdstrand> micahg: ok
[21:45] <jdstrand> micahg: done
[21:45] <micahg> jdstrand: thanks
[21:45] <jdstrand> np
[23:47] <chrisccoulson> fantastic, all the tests run without hanging now


[05:47] <blackskad> cjwatson: you're doing mentoring on the ubiquity-slideshow-spec, aren't you?
[05:47] <cjwatson> blackskad: well, I only just pressed the button earlier today, but yes
[05:48] <blackskad> cjawatson: :D
[05:48] <blackskad> can I adopt this spec?
[05:49] <cjwatson> tell me about the sort of experience you have
[05:49] <blackskad> cjwatson: I haven't got that much experience in python, but I'm learning quite fast
[05:49] <blackskad> I'm creating some kind of pane to show a slideshow on it
[05:49] <cjwatson> this spec is part making it work in ubiquity, and part coordinating with the art/marketing teams to get the right kinds of art created
[05:50] <cjwatson> pane?
[05:50] <blackskad> sorry, too much java :)
[05:50] <blackskad> its an extension of HBox
[05:51] <cjwatson> doesn't sound like the right widget to use
[05:51] <cjwatson> it should just be VBox [ Image <progress bar stuff> ]
[05:51] <blackskad> so it can be included rather easy using glade
[05:51] <cjwatson> a pane isn't appropriate because resizing isn't necessary
[05:53] <cjwatson> here, I forgot to ever push the slideshow branch I had with some initial work on this
[05:53] <blackskad> is it in bzr? i'll check it out :)
[05:53] <cjwatson> it will be once this bzr push happens
[05:53] <cjwatson> the initial glade work I did is still in my working copy though
[05:54] <cjwatson> (as in, not committed - I assume I had some reason, but it was a while back)
[05:55] <blackskad> hehe, I would blame it on too less ram
[05:55] <cjwatson> well, if you mean the sort that lives in my brain, that may be true
[05:56] <cjwatson> the work dates from ubiquity 1.3.13, so it's a bit crusty
[05:57] <cjwatson> IIRC I did it when stuck in an airport for a night and desperately bored
[05:58] <blackskad> yeah, it seems to be one of the less interesting things to do when you already know quite a lot about the installer/python :)
[05:59] <blackskad> but it seems like a perfect task to step in for me
[05:59] <cjwatson> the fiddly bit about it is that it involves restructuring the install-progress step of the UI
[06:00] <cjwatson> if you can tackle that, it's probably not too bad
[06:01] <blackskad> I'll try
[06:01] <blackskad> I love to tackle problems :)
[07:12] <cjwatson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kamion/ubiquity/slideshow/
[07:12] <cjwatson> I trust you have enough bzr familiarity to unpick what I did
[07:55] <blackskad> cjwatson: ok, I'll figure out ;)


[01:59]  * c_smith is at Broadway Common Coffeehouse
[02:00] <bkerensa> c_smith: Is JVLB there?
[02:01] <c_smith> Just got here as a matter of fact.
[02:01]  * bkerensa is getting read to head to the Portland Ubuntu Hour here in a bit
[02:01] <bkerensa> :D
[02:01] <c_smith> Awesome.
[03:02]  * cweber10 is in portland a bit early
[09:32] <bkerensa> cweber10: I just got home
[09:32] <bkerensa> :D
[09:35] <bkerensa> hi goddard
[16:21] <goddard> bkerensa: yo
[19:58] <cweber10> bkerensa: looks like you had fun staying out till 1:30 am
[23:28] <mustafaerhan> hello there
[23:28] <mustafaerhan> looking for suggestions about ubuntu
[23:29] <mustafaerhan> software tweak etc. all helps are welcome


[00:11] <shaunm> ok, that's an easy fix
[00:16] <Rocket2DMn> how will these pages behave in browsers that dont have full support for html5?
[00:17] <shaunm> the pages don't use much html5. I toyed with using new tags like nav and section. I like them in general, but the support wasn't there
[00:17] <shaunm> mostly, it's the video tag
[00:17] <shaunm> (and audio, if you happen to use that)
[00:17] <Rocket2DMn> for us its just mostly text with css
[00:18] <shaunm> some years down the line, I'll probably start replacing some divs with the more semantic html5 elements, but not now
[00:18] <shaunm> not until there's decent mainstream browser support
[00:21] <Rocket2DMn> well i guess my question for now is how do i get it to declare the doctype
[00:41] <Rocket2DMn> i got it in there but its screwing up the page
[08:19] <jbicha> ooh, docs team gets a shoutout
[08:19] <jbicha> from Mark at UDS
[08:19] <DarkwingDuck> Yay doc team! :D
[08:19] <mdke> what does he say?
[08:21] <DarkwingDuck> He thank the doc team for the hard work in getting gnome3 docs and unity docs
[08:21] <mdke> cool
[08:25] <mdke> wow, Launchpad's automatic translation exports seems rather cool
[08:26] <DarkwingDuck> mdke: You'll have to let me know how that goes.
[08:26] <mdke> DarkwingDuck: will do
[08:26] <DarkwingDuck> mdke: thanks mate
[08:27] <mdke> DarkwingDuck: I will activate it for kubuntu-docs too if nothing goes horribly wrong with ubuntu-docs, which it seems not to have done
[08:28] <DarkwingDuck> mdke: thanks!
[08:31] <mdke> -> work
[08:32] <DarkwingDuck> mdke: where are you located in this blue globe?
[09:39] <j1mc> so mark mentioned the docs team during his opening talk
[09:40] <j1mc> the funny thing was that i couldn't sleep, and so i was downstairs on my laptop at 5-something am
[09:40] <j1mc> and he came around to have coffee
[09:40] <j1mc> and we talked there.
[09:45] <jbicha> oh no, well there will be a video of the talk
[09:49] <j1mc> jbicha: oh no?
[09:50] <jbicha> I mean, that's too bad you missed his talk
[09:50] <jbicha> about companies and his vegetable garden
[09:51] <j1mc> oh, i saw his talk
[09:51] <jbicha> oh I misunderstood, never mind
[09:51] <jbicha> way to catch him first thing in the morning! that's good advertising :-)
[09:52] <j1mc> :)
[16:32] <Rickyboy107> Hello, i want to join the Documentation team
[16:33] <Rickyboy107> if i can ofcourse
[19:15] <mdke> DarkwingDuck: london
[19:36] <geekosopher> jjesse: any problem with bug 774759 ?
[19:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 774759 in kubuntu-docs "Error in kubuntu-docs-office string #16" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774759
[20:23] <jjesse> geekosopher i can look tonight
[20:32] <geekosopher> jjesse: ok, good night :)
[21:44] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha ka po'e alau (Hello everyone)