[00:00] <DanEngholm> Starting today, synaptic, Ubuntu Software Center, Software Up To Date and apt-get all crash.  When I try to send a problem report, that crashes, too.  Any ideas?  This is on Precise running on an AMD 64 which was up to date as of earlier this week.
[00:01] <linux389> DanEngholm: have you tried sudo aptitude install -f in terminal?
[00:01] <DanEngholm> I didn't know about that.  Will try now.
[00:02] <k1l_> DanEngholm: make a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal and show that in a pastebin please
[00:02] <DanEngholm> aptitude is not installed and trying to apt-get install it leads to the expected core dump.
[00:02] <linux389> k1l_: the && doesn't work in the newer versions of ubuntu anymore
[00:02] <k1l_> linux389: that is not true
[00:03] <linux389> k1l_: well, when i try that on ubuntu 12.10 it stops after update
[00:03] <DanEngholm> The apt-get update seems to have fixed the problem.
[00:03] <k1l_> linux389: it still works. then there is some issue with your system
[00:04] <DanEngholm> That was easy.  Thanks!
[00:04] <linux389> k1l_: its been bugging me, can you help me fix it?
[00:05] <threex5> Hi, I could really use some help getting ubuntu to talk to my android phone.
[00:05] <threex5> I'm finding basic stuff like file transfer pretty hard to figure out
[00:06] <DanEngholm> k1l_: Thank you for your help.
[00:06] <linux389> anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp.
[00:07] <giovana> oi maria joaquina
[00:08] <Snowie> morning all. I am installing True Combat Elite, which requires libstdc++5. The thread recommends installing it from ubuntu packages as it isnt in the repos. I have never done this before. Any advice or common mess ups i need to be aware of before i do this?
[00:08] <Soru_> Someone knows why If I execute dungeons defender it doesn't start?
[00:08] <Snowie> and is this the correct version for 12.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libstdc++5
[00:09] <Snowie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=864085
[00:09] <linux389> Snowie: maybe "find /usr -name libstdc++" then symbolic link to libstdc++5; that is done with "sudo ln -s <input> <output>"
[00:10] <PatrickDickey> Snowie, the correct version for 12.04 would be http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libstdc++5
[00:10] <Snowie> linux389: ok, will try.
[00:10] <Snowie> PatrickDickey: ahh, yes, pangolin not ocelot. duh
[00:12] <PatrickDickey> Soru, without any error messages, I don't think anyone could be positive.
[00:13] <Snowie> linux389: nothing found. i dont think they use this same library anymore, or is there another package i might be missing that includes this. apt-get install libstd++ just returns info on broken packages
[00:13] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: This is why I don't know what to search on the internet for help... And there is zero support from the humble bundle..
[00:13] <linux389> Snowie: you could try "apt-cache search libstdc++" or without the ++
[00:13] <chro> when I use 2 screens, the first screen is always blinking from time to time...
[00:14] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: when you try starting it, what happens exactly?
[00:15] <Snowie> linux389: looks like version 6 is current.
[00:15] <linux389> Snowie: you could symbolic link to your libstdc++.so.6 to libstdc++.so.5 in the same directory as the libstdc++.so.6; that is with the "sudo ln -s <input.6> <output.5>"
[00:15] <Snowie> linux389: doh. yeah, it's allready there. the other recommendation was to create a symlink. im sure i searched for it.
[00:16] <Snowie> linux389: yeah, cheers
[00:16] <linux389> anyone know how to fix the "sudo poweroff now" not turning off my desktop? I am on ubuntu 12.10 and the dual boot shuts down fine in windows xp. also the double ampersand is not working to join commands in terminal, any help on that is appreciated
[00:17] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: Well, first of all, sorry I'm on Kubuntu (trying and so) but I'm here because there is more activity here. When I click to the icon, it seems like it's starting to execute the game, but I switch to the process monitor, It does not shows nothing with the name "dungeons defenders" and nothing happens after. I don't know if my english is good, sorry.
[00:17] <Snowie> thanks guys
[00:21] <dakotawulfy> hi
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: It doesn't appear to be compatible for LInux yet. I'm going on the assumption that you're playing the Steam version, right?
[00:22] <Snowie> ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 ?? are these the correcl locations. when i look in usr/lib, there is no such file/folder.
[00:23] <maestrojed> if you use xbmcbuntu, can you exit to just ubuntu (no xvmc)?
[00:23] <mephisto_> hi!
[00:23] <dakotawulfy> when lm-sensor installed and u do sensors  the temp1  temp2 and temp3  will those be the same on all computers ?
[00:23] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: No, I've downloaded it from the humble bundle website. The installer is a mojo.run file
[00:26] <mephisto_>  I keep getting this whenever I try to connect through modem manager "System policy prevents unlocking or controlling the mobile broadband device"
[00:26] <mephisto_> do you guys know how to solve this?
[00:27] <moes> I did an update from update manager to linux-generic-<IP_ADDRESS>.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix
[00:28] <escott_> Snowie, there is usually a reason for the different numbers at the end. programs may not work correctly if you do that
[00:30] <PatrickDickey> Soru_: I'm not able to find anything. I'm sorry. Hopefully someone else can help you out.
[00:31] <Soru_> PatrickDickey: No problem, thanks for trying, I appreciate it very much!
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> mephisto_: One suggestion that I could make is to check your privleges in Users and Groups. You might need to have Use Modems checked, or Connect through modems.
[00:34] <mephisto_> PatrickDickey, thanks a lot buddy :)
[00:35] <PatrickDickey> Not a problem. Hope it helps.
[00:38] <Snowie> exit
[00:41] <moes>  I did an update from update manager to linux-generic-<IP_ADDRESS>.53 upon restart I am at a login prompt and cannot login I have to use old kernel to boot..any known problem or fix
[00:43] <carpcow> i need help with ubuntu
[00:44] <carpcow> when i try to install it the installer crashes
[00:45] <carpcow> anyone here?
[00:46] <mellery> hi, I need some help fixing my ati drivers.  I've just got a black screen with a terminal in the top corner.  I've tried purging the fglrx* packages and reinstalling, but when I run amdconfig --initial, i get a command not found.  trying to use failsafex in recovery mode doesn't work either
[00:47] <peterrooney> I wonder what IRC client doesn't show a room count.
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> carpcow does the installer give you an error when it crashes?
[00:50] <cyrano_> I'm attempting a triple monitor setup with my system. I currently have a nVidia 9800 GTX+ and an onboard Intel GMA 3100. I would like to have all three screens active with either a combination of twinview and xinerama or just xinerama across all three screens. The problem is when I enable this X constatly crashes and restarts. any ideas or thoughts on where I should look/start?
[00:50] <carpcow> it says i/o error
[00:51] <PatrickDickey> carpcow, no guarantees but I had that with a hard drive that was in the process of dying. Are you on a LiveCD right now?
[00:51] <carpcow> no
[00:52] <carpcow> i was trying to install ubuntu on microsoft hyper-v
[00:52] <carpcow> which is a virtual machine thing
[00:52] <PatrickDickey> Are you on the computer right now though? And if so, what operating system are you on?
[00:52] <carpcow> windows but ubuntu is on the vm'
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> Which version of Windows? I ask that, because I'm googling this, and see entries for Windows 8 and Windows Server 2008 R2.
[00:54] <carpcow> server 2012
[00:54] <carpcow> im thinking maybe the iso didn't download correctly?
[00:55] <carpcow> i have a bad connection
[00:55] <nopolitica> carpcow: crc, md5?
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> carpcow that could be. I don't remember off-hand how to check the md5sum of the iso on Windows, but you might want to do that.
[00:55] <carpcow> dunno how to check the md5 sum on windows
[00:56] <carpcow> ok well thanks for the help
[00:56] <nopolitica> carpcow: cygwin + md5 installed :)
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> carpcow: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows how to check md5sum in Windows.
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> It's an older posting, but should still work. If not Google is your friend. ;-)
[00:58] <carpcow> i use startpage though but yes
[00:58] <xcvt01_> can i run hurd in ubuntu
[00:58] <xcvt01_> ?
[01:02] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: The short answer is "no". The longer answer is you can run it as a virtual machine maybe through QEMU. http://askubuntu.com/questions/37945/can-i-install-gnu-hurd-in-ubuntu
[01:02] <tkemp> Hello, I have an asus eeepc 900 and I am trying to control the fans ... the unit seems very hot and doesn't seem to be turning them on. I have looked around the forums but I cant seem to find anything that helps. Thanks in advance.
  tnx
[01:03] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: No problem. Sorry.
  i know that i should run it under vm
[01:03] <fluo123> anyone with a lenovo g580?
  i have try a debian version but no graphical  interface
[01:04] <PatrickDickey> !eeepc | tkemp this might get you going.
[01:04] <fluo123> anyone with a lenovo g580?
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> xcvt01_: I'm not familiar enough with the hurd project to give you a solid answer. But, I'd assume that if Gnome or one of the other Desktop environments was available, you'd be able to install them.
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Not here, but what's the issue that you're having? We may be able to help anyhow.
[01:05] <tkemp> Thanks PatrickDickey
[01:05] <PatrickDickey> tkemp: no problem. I hope you're able to get the fans running.
[01:05] <fluo123> just to see if its a good pc for ubuntu
[01:06] <fluo123> indecise between it and mint
 yeah tnx i will search for this may be i'll help some one in the future tnx for ur help
[01:07] <fluo123> do you think ubuntu is secure out of the box? like for safe browsing?
[01:08] <Myersg2> When I do sudo apt-get update I get errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5641925/
[01:08] <fluo123> how can one be sure he is not under attack/ not intercepted
[01:08] <briaman> I've just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 and I really wish I hadn't.  I've unloaded most of the shopping channel but can't get rid of the price tag on suggested apps.  What do I need to uninstall to get rid of this?
[01:10] <Myersg2> how would I restore my repositories to default? or is there another way to fix it?
[01:11] <Myersg2> any help?
[01:11] <benzrf> hey, is there a way to get actual mac-style alt-tab/alt-` instead of an unholy hybrid of mac and windows?
[01:12] <mJayk> bezrf: buy a mac
[01:12] <mJayk> benzrf: teach me not to tab - buy a mac :)
[01:13] <benzrf> okay, then can I get genuine windows-style alt-tab?
[01:13] <benzrf> I just dislike the hybrid
[01:13] <PatrickDickey> Install XP?
[01:13]  * benzrf sighs
[01:13] <mJayk> benzrf: first what desktop are you using
[01:13] <mJayk> benzrf: they all have different methods of configuring and different styles of "alt tab"
[01:14] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Yes I do. (Ubuntu secure). I think it's only as secure as you make it. If you really want secure, either don't go online, or use a Live CD to browse.
[01:15] <fluo123> PatrickDickey: but liveCDs are not up to date.
[01:15] <mJayk> PatrickDickey: I cant see how live cd's are more secure, if anything they are less secure.  Although they do give you more privacy maybe
[01:15] <briaman> Sorry benzrf.  I'd help if I could.  I came here for help too.  It's been a long time since I bothered with irc.  Now I remember why.  Most of the users are dicks
[01:15] <bobbyz> fluo123: If you don't mind the extra click here and there, setting your browser plugins to click-to-play by default is always a good idea as well
[01:15] <mJayk> briaman: useful input there ive allready asked waht desktop hes on still waiting for response
[01:16] <bobbyz> fluo123: then you can worry a lot less about the most recent flash/java/whatever vulnerability
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> mJayk: and fluo123 I mentioned Live CD's because once you reboot anything that you viewed, passwords that you used, or any viruses that may have infected the environment are gone. Like I said, to be truly secure, you'd have to stay offline.
[01:17] <fluo123> bobbyz:are you talking about no-Ads, noscript, etc...? bleach bit isnt enough if you browse a secure (https) site?
[01:17] <mJayk> PatrickDickey: that depends how you set it up, but I've always thought Live CD's being more secure was a myth becaues they are older and have older "holes" ?
[01:18] <bobbyz> fluo123: I mean both chrome/chromium and firefox support an option to display plugin divs as grey boxes that require you to click them before they do anything
[01:18] <fluo123> PatrickDickey:yeah offline. but that isnt an option anymore. or else its just a brick
[01:18] <cappicard> hey. anyone with a toshiba laptop where the entire usb subsystem is shut down when one plugs in their ipad?
[01:19] <bobbyz> fluo123: it prevents drive-by compromises where a site attempts to load a crafted java or flash applet that can cause system compromises
[01:20] <fluo123> bobbyz: yes. but if you run bleachbit and then go only to a secure https site that has not been compromised, you dont need the java/script blockers
[01:21] <Peyam> hi
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Doesn't Bleachbit just clean out your computer? I mean like your caches and other stuff?
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Hi Peyam
[01:22] <Peyam> I used a alias matlab ='/usr/local/...' in .bashrc
[01:22] <bobbyz> fluo123: "site that has not been compromised" <-- That is precisely the issue...it's common these days for hackers to inject malicious tags into otherwise trusted sites
[01:22] <fluo123> PatrickDickey:yes.
[01:22] <bobbyz> and ad networks
[01:23] <Peyam> when I try to make a manu in menu manager and write this commend. matlab doesnt appear
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> !matlab | Peyam, have you looked at this information?
[01:26] <fluo123> Any good security program you recomend to keep your pc safe? like, a must-have?
[01:27] <mguy> fluo123: Really don't need one with Ubuntu
[01:27] <fluo123> add-ons?
[01:28] <bobbyz> fluo123: well, you can install ufw for managing iptables firewall rules if you want
[01:28] <phunyguy> fluo123: load up Software Center, and type in gufw
[01:28] <phunyguy> it is a very easy to configure firewall application
[01:29] <fluo123> itś that thing, when I had windows I could always run spybot+malwarebytes+ccleaner. had avira/avast and had komodo firewall that warned me everytime some suspicious access. In ubuntu I dont have that. dont feel verry aware.
[01:29] <dirte> howdy
[01:29] <Peyam> PatrickDickey: can't make it work
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: No-Script on Firefox. Ad-Block on both Chrome and Firefox. I've got F-Secure installed, but there are other antivirus for Linux (yes, I realize that I don't "need" one). Aside from that, diable Java, and practice good security habits
[01:29] <tkemp> Not having much luck :/ PatrickDickey
[01:29] <bobbyz> fluo123: those are reactive security measures..you're running them after your system has already been compromised...Ubuntu will help you keep from being compromised in the first place
[01:29] <mguy> fluo123: Ubuntu isn't vulnerable to that kind of stuff
[01:30] <fluo123> phunyguy:any rule you recommend?
[01:30] <phunyguy> fluo123: by default it denies incoming traffic, except for what you set as exceptions.
[01:30] <phunyguy> you have to enable it first, though,
[01:30] <|nv|s|b|e> just install noscript and adblock, together, if configured properly should be enough
[01:32] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: One other thing I recommend is if you're going to a secure site, don't have any other tabs open. Or use the incognito feature that's in Chrome (and I think firefox also).
[01:32] <phunyguy> PatrickDickey: Firefox only runs in private browsing mode, it closes the rest while you do that
[01:32] <fluo123> I'll try the add ons. by the way, someone said chrome. google is evil now. If it wasnt for the tool for webdev, I'd stick with chromium.
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Google isn't any more evil than any other company.
[01:33] <PatrickDickey> IMHO.
[01:33] <harrisr> how do i make a shared folder
[01:33] <|nv|s|b|e> ghostery is a good one for ff also
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> harrisr: Are you sharing it with other peple on the same computer, other linux computers, or windows computers?
[01:34] <fluo123> PatrickDickey: In the past I would agree with you. now, I dont.
[01:34] <harrisr> with openelec
[01:35] <phunyguy> !nfs | harrisr
[01:35] <phunyguy> if openelec supports it anyway
[01:35] <fluo123> one more thing, does chromium has webdev tools/debug just like chrome?
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> !samba | harrisr in case openelec only supports this
[01:36] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[01:37] <dirte> Question: I have my private key on a windows machine used to ssh to my remote box, i coped the private key to my ubuntu partition, is this the right way to use ssh with private key to connect to remote server?  sudo ssh -i private_key.ppk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:37] <benzrf> asking again: how can I make it so that alt-tab ONLY switches between programs and never between windows from the same one? (in unity)
[01:37] <moes> What is the command for starting unity
[01:37] <dirte> it prompts me for password for private key but says invalid passwd
[01:37] <mguy> dirte: generate one with ssh-keygen and copy it to the server
[01:37] <phunyguy> benzrf: that may not be possible
[01:37] <phunyguy> moes: unity --replace
[01:37] <fluo123> still about security, you don't tell me someone would go into a defcon contest with a 'plain vanilla' ubuntu and not peing pwnd.
[01:37] <animeBoy> hello. i just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens
[01:38] <dirte> mguy: I already created keys on server and locked down server to only accept connection from key :]
[01:38] <mguy> fluo123: If you're going to defcon all bets are off
[01:38] <mJayk> animeBoy: do you see the lists of other desktops ?
[01:38] <dirte> i'm able to connect from windows partition - can I copy the key to another box aka ubuntu partition and still use it?
[01:39] <fluo123> I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.
[01:39] <animeBoy> mJayk: yes i see them. i click on one but when i log in i end in lxde again
[01:40] <mguy> fluo123: It's plenty secure enough
[01:40] <fluo123> mguy:I'm not going :) . just to give a picture of how secure it is.
[01:40] <mJayk> even if you select another one ?
[01:40] <mguy> until you start installing every package under the sun and don't configure anything
[01:40] <phunyguy> fluo123: with that firewall, it is a good start as it is a very secure implementation of ufw.
[01:40] <mJayk> animeBoy: thats strange I would suggest removing the desktops and reinstalling sudo apt-get remove kde-plasma or w/e then sudo apt-get update the nreinstall it
[01:41] <dirte> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic)
[01:41] <animeBoy> mJayk: yes.i click on options but it dont react
[01:41] <mJayk> animeBoy: since the upgrade have you updated?
[01:41] <mJayk> your packages
[01:41] <xxaM> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[01:42] <animeBoy> yes. i try to update
[01:42] <mJayk> animeBoy: and it all updates ok ?
[01:42] <animeBoy> yes. no error
[01:42] <mJayk> animeBoy: im stuck id try to remove one and reinstall it with apt-get
[01:43] <animeBoy> mJayk: i gonna try install open box or something
[01:44] <fluo123> how about fedora ? it has lots of security features: Policykit, SELinux, etc:. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security/Features
[01:44] <phunyguy> please don't recommend other distros here.
[01:45] <fluo123> phunyguy:ok. why? (my first time on #ubuntu). are you a ubuntu-fundamentalist?
[01:45] <phunyguy> fluo123: because it is not allowed.
[01:45] <phunyguy> fluo123: this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[01:45] <ner0x> Trying to run ubuntuone headless because I'm on Xubuntu. It installs properly, oauth is set properly, but it doesn't actually sync anything. Any idea where to look first?
[01:45] <fluo123> phunyguy:ok. sorry. Do you know any # where I can discuss that?
[01:45] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: If you want to know how secure Fedora is, you could check in #fedora
[01:46] <phunyguy> fluo123: #fedora
[01:46] <mguy> fluo123: #linux-social
[01:46] <phunyguy> that too
[01:46] <fluo123> ok. thank you all :)
[01:46] <phunyguy> you're welcome :)
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> fluo123: Maybe even #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to compare/contrast them.
[01:49] <animeBoy> mJayk: i install conky- dock. log out and now i have a cairo session option. but whe i click on it nothing happens :/
[01:49] <Bollsaq> guvcview doesn't detect my webcam. What should I do?
[01:49] <Bollsaq> oops
[01:49] <Bollsaq> I meant my camcorder
[01:49] <Bollsaq> guvcview doesn't detect my camcorder
[01:49] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: first of all, what does your nick mean..? o.O
[01:49] <phunyguy> and is it offensive...
[01:50] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: also there may be some hints in dmesg
[01:50] <Bollsaq> phunyguy: Its my last name. What does yours mean?
[01:50] <phunyguy> WOW.... ok.
[01:51] <phunyguy> anyways.  Check dmesg for some hints
[01:51] <phunyguy> dmesg | tail preferrably after you try to connect
[01:51] <phunyguy> pastebin the output if you would like
[01:52] <ubulove> hi
[01:52] <phunyguy> hi
[01:53] <ubulove> is it possible to have themes on lubuntu 12.10 ?
[01:53] <animeBoy> any one have seen this before?
[01:54] <dustinspringman> ubulove: what sort of themes?
[01:54] <phunyguy> ubulove: is LXAppearance available?
[01:54] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I used to have a mac os theme on ubuntu 08.04 :P now am using lubuntu 12.10 on a different system.
[01:54] <c5nh6k2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2127649
[01:54] <phunyguy> animeBoy: seen what?
[01:55] <ubulove> phunyguy: Customize Look and Feel is available.
[01:55] <animeBoy> ok i  try to explain better.
[01:55] <animeBoy> i just upgrade form ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10. now i cant change of desktop environment. when i click in another option in log in screen nothing happens
[01:55] <animeBoy> i see the options
[01:55] <animeBoy> i click on them
[01:55] <animeBoy> buttons shake
[01:55] <phunyguy> c5nh6k2: it would help to give the nickname of the person you are talking to.
[01:55] <LargePrime> dear ubuntuionions
[01:56] <SuicideSlade> Ubuntu onions?
[01:56] <phunyguy> !enter | animeBoy
[01:56] <animeBoy> but the icon next to my username dont change. and i cant change from lxde to unity
[01:56] <LargePrime> any thoughts on server kernel options or ubuntu 12.10
[01:56] <sam113101> it's ubuntunians actually
[01:56] <phunyguy> LargePrime: what are you trying to ask?
[01:56] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I have many customizations on my 12.04... not "certain" if its the same on 12.10, but I'd presume the MAC style toolbar and window appearance themes being GTK+3.0 should be similar
[01:56] <LargePrime> yes that is it sam113101
[01:57] <Bollsaq> Guvcview doesn't detect my camcorder and I tried dmesg and don't know what the blue hell this means http://pastebin.com/sXRW1w2c
[01:57] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I wanna try some themes from gnome-look.org but am just asking not to ruin anything on lubuntu 12.10.
[01:57] <LargePrime> If my ubuntu 12.1 server should have a generic kernel or the low latency kernel or a grsecurity kernel
[01:57] <LargePrime> phunyguy:
[01:57] <phunyguy> Bollsaq: it looks like the camcorder is detected by the system
[01:57] <LargePrime> or even some other kernel
[01:58] <animeBoy> sorry
[01:58] <phunyguy> LargePrime: that depends on your needs
[01:58] <lapion> Bollsaq, is your camcorder onnected via firewire ?
[01:58] <Bollsaq> phunyguy: its connected to the laptop via usb
[01:58] <phunyguy> !polls | LargePrime
[01:58] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: I had video problems with the 12.10 kernel as well. Going back to the 3.2 kernel solved them.
[01:58] <Bollsaq> Its plugged in via dual-usb could that be why?
[01:58] <dustinspringman> ubulove: its pretty easy to recover if you don't like a GTK theme.. I went through about 2 dozen before I settled on my current setup...which I LOVE.. =D
[01:59] <Bollsaq> I'm using my camcorder instead of my webcam because of regression bugs
[01:59] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: The 12.10 kernel being 3.5, that is...
[01:59] <Bollsaq> sometimes regression bugs make me think about ditching Linux entirely.
[01:59] <ubulove> dustinspringman: Nice :P btw a silly question I think ! :P If I set ANY theme this would remove my LXDE or LXDE stays whatever I do with themes ?
[01:59] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: I'm actually using 13.04 beta, hence the new guvcview and kdenlive and the regression bugs one of them has.
[01:59] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Sticking with LTS tends to avoid regression, ime.
[02:00] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: not always. My printer used to work in Ubuntu before the LTS back about 2 or 3 years ago.
[02:00] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: and again, more regression bugs made that useful printer useless :(
[02:00] <dustinspringman> ubulove: hmm..not 100% on that... I'm using unity+custom toolbar+theme... I've not tried putting any GTK themes on LXDE.. =/
[02:00] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Nothing's perfect. Isn't there a "+1" room for the beta support?
[02:01] <phunyguy> #ubuntu+1. SuicideSlade
[02:01] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: you mentioned 12.10 that's why I mentioned what I currently run.
[02:01] <SuicideSlade> Thank you, phunyguy.
[02:01] <ubulove> dustinspringman: lol :P that's what am trying to avoid u know! if i put any themes and lxde is removed an ****** :P
[02:01] <ubulove> dustinspringman: am ****** :P
[02:01] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I even have compiz running, even though not all the functions work, the basics do...like cubism and a few other things..
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: Which kernel is 13.04 using?
[02:02] <ubulove> dustinspringman: I'll give it a try for a theme because I don't really like lubuntu's menu icon etc.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> Compiz freezes a lot, that's one thing I love about gnome-shell. No compiz.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: I don't know.
[02:02] <dustinspringman> ubulove: I'm pretty sure it wont "remove" anything... you'd just have to go back and re-select the default LXDE interface stuff
[02:02] <dustinspringman> brb..
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Bollsaq: System info should tell you.
[02:02] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: softpedia says 3.8
[02:02] <ubulove> dustinspringman: yeap lxde won't be replaced. themes are just themes (checked it now in google)
[02:02] <SuicideSlade> Ah, ok. Out of my depth, then. :-)
[02:02] <dustinspringman> Bollsaq: I'm using compiz on unity, works like a champ. only a few special things won't work.. but I can live without those..
[02:03] <Bollsaq> SuicideSlade: info doesn't say what kernel
[02:03] <ubulove> am registering a nickname here ! yay
[02:03] <Bollsaq> I need to register mine somehow.
[02:04] <Bollsaq> or else somene else will as a perverted joke.
[02:04] <phunyguy> !nickserv
[02:04] <donnie> If I set an older 30gb hdd that I have as a swap drive only.. would that make my system awesome-er
[02:04] <devilboy> Bollsaq, /ns help register
[02:04] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Not really.
[02:05] <donnie> Darn.. because when I install a linux system, it's usually really fast. Then all the constant update. makes it laggy and sluggish
[02:06] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Perhaps you should inspect what is running by default - maybe startup programs are bogging you down. How much memory do you have?
[02:06] <phunyguy> donnie: swap space is significantly slower that physical memory.
[02:07] <donnie> Well reason I'm on linux is for my 'older system' which I like... And I have 1gb of ram on a system that all I'm using it for is maybe some videos, music listening, and webbrowsing
[02:07] <phunyguy> donnie: usually the slowdowns happen with more software being added as they can add some background daemons.  Also I have seen bugs with things like /usr/bin/X eating a CPU core
[02:08] <phunyguy> so that could potentially be happening to you
[02:08] <SuicideSlade> donnie: Assuming you're using stock Ubuntu, you might look into a lighter desktop environment, for older hardware.
[02:08] <donnie> phunguy: so how do I find out if that's the case?
[02:08] <phunyguy> telepathy does it to me also
[02:08] <donnie> SuicideSlade: I'm actually on xubuntu but no one in that room ever talks
[02:08] <phunyguy> donnie: system-monitor is a good start, as well as an app called htop
[02:08] <phunyguy> (terminal)
[02:09] <SuicideSlade> htop is amazingly useful.
[02:09] <phunyguy> !info htop
[02:09] <donnie> phunguy: sudo apt-get install htop?
[02:09] <phunyguy> donnie, you got it.
[02:09] <phunyguy> then run in said terminal
[02:10] <Bollsaq> devilboy: got it registered. thanks bro :)
[02:10] <donnie> Ok. Have it.. now what?
[02:11] <phunyguy> donnie is it running?
[02:11] <devilboy> Bollsaq: np, registered too! because I'm falling in love with this ubu community !
[02:11] <donnie> Root is at 17.0 cpu and it's /user/bin/X
[02:11] <phunyguy> is there anything utilizing near-100%?
[02:11] <phunyguy> donnie^^
[02:11] <donnie> Not at the moment no
[02:11] <phunyguy> ok, then that is not the case.
[02:12] <Bollsaq> devilboy: I prever xat chats. I wish the official Ubuntu chat was a xat.
[02:12] <donnie> could just be that chrome sucks
[02:12] <phunyguy> I am afraid your system may just not be able to handle what you are doing.
[02:12] <phunyguy> are you on regular ubuntu, donnie?
[02:13] <donnie> phunyguy: No xubuntu
[02:13] <phunyguy> donnie: ahhh ok.
[02:13] <donnie> It's just no one ever talks in that room
[02:14] <phunyguy> !nickspam | ________________
[02:14] <________________> phunyguy, not funny.
[02:14] <phunyguy> wasn't trying to be....
[02:15] <phunyguy> :)
[02:17] <phunyguy> !nick | ________________, this is also useful
[02:17] <rocky> hello guys
[02:17] <phunyguy> hi rockey
[02:17] <phunyguy> rocky**
[02:18] <________________> phunyguy, Congratulations, prick, you've just made my ignore list. Was it worth it to you to make your "witty" comments and snide in-jokes to your irc pals about me if it meant you are now disappeared from my online experience? Have a nice life
[02:18] <phunyguy> ________________: was just trying to help.
[02:19] <devilboy> ________________, you can find a better nick. I'm sure.
[02:20] <sam113101> I can't connect to wpa enterprise with my netbook
[02:20] <sam113101> ;_;
[02:21] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-<IP_ADDRESS>.53 and linux-image <IP_ADDRESS>.105..this kernel will not boot
[02:22] <peterrooney> ________________: no witty comments were made, and no in-jokes were made.  He pointed out that you were doing something that is exceptionally impolite in a channel with in excess of one thousand users.
[02:24] <peterrooney> if only one person in twenty did it, the channel would likely become useless.
[02:24] <phunyguy> the constant parting and joining is enough to really make it scroll.
[02:24] <phunyguy> best not to add to it.
[02:25] <IdleOne> ok folks, lets drop it. was one nick change, not the end of the world
[02:25] <SuicideSlade> I usually filter out the join/part messages...
[02:25] <IdleOne> back to support :)
[02:25] <SuicideSlade> You can do it!
[02:26] <________________> peterrooney, devilboy, phunyguy, it was a joke :P
[02:26] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds?
[02:27] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[02:28] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04 update manager downloaded linux-generic-<IP_ADDRESS>.53 and linux-image <IP_ADDRESS>.105..this kernel will not boot
[02:29] <phunyguy> moes, have patience.  I know it has been a while since you asked, but not much scrollback has happened.  :)  If nobody knows, they won't answer.
[02:29] <phunyguy> what are your symptoms?
[02:30] <phunyguy> also, 10.04 will be EOL very soon....
[02:30] <moes> phunyguy..It brings me to a log in
[02:30] <phunyguy> moes: text based?
[02:30] <coder7of9> i am trying to compile http://code.google.com/p/mod-auth-token/ on the latest unbuntu. i am receiving many errors: http://pastebin.com/ZP1Gpgcb
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> moes, Are you aware the desktop version of 10.04 is not far from end of life?
[02:31] <phunyguy> moes: and are you using something like nvidia or ati hardware for video?
[02:31] <moes> Yes I am aware but I need it until I get 12.04 configured
[02:31] <moes> nvidia 173 driver
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> moes, Cool, just a concern on my part. ;)
[02:32] <phunyguy> moes, how did you install that driver?
[02:32] <bcbc2> ls _release -a
[02:33] <moes> Through the addition driver panel 3 years ago
[02:34] <phunyguy> moes, try to log in via that console, and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-173'
[02:34] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> what driver?
[02:34] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> ahh
[02:35] <moes> I am using the old <IP_ADDRESS> kernel to speak...I tried install nvidia without any sucess
[02:35] <phunyguy> moes maybe there is some confusion
[02:35] <phunyguy> what symptoms are you getting via the new kernel
[02:36] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> have you tried updating your kernel?  Seeing if you have options for the nvidea module?
[02:36] <phunyguy> kjfdskjhfewrjunv: that's the issue.
[02:36] <moes> I normally auto login in when I try to boot via the new kernel I get a logon prompt
[02:36] <phunyguy> kjfdskjhfewrjunv: his issue is he can't use the kernel that was just installed via updates on that PC
[02:37] <phunyguy> moes, define login prompt
[02:37] <phunyguy> moes, graphical or text
[02:37] <moes> text
[02:37] <phunyguy> so X isn't starting
[02:37] <phunyguy> please pastebin the output of dmesg
[02:37] <moes> That what it looks like
[02:38] <Hoyt> Can I remove downloaded debs automatically after installation?
[02:38] <phunyguy> I don't remember where the X log is stored in 10.04...
[02:38] <Hoyt> 'apt-get clean all' is not automatic
[02:39] <phunyguy> Hoyt: sudo apt-get autoclean  ?
[02:39] <Hoyt> no I mean, after `apt-get install XX`, I want the downloaded caches to be removed automatically
[02:39] <Hoyt> Just like YUM
[02:39] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> xinit?
[02:39] <Snyda> hey all
[02:40] <dirte> my wireless craps out all the time, i have to reboot to fix it, anyone have similar problems? (laptop)
[02:40] <trism> coder7of9: make sure you have automake, autoconf and libtool installed
[02:40] <moes> If I get through login and get a prompt what do I enter to continue
[02:40] <holstein> dirte: i have.. and i have tried other drivers to resolve
[02:40] <phunyguy> dirte: actually yes.  and a 'sudo service network-manager restart' will also work
[02:40] <Snyda> Question why after install of Ubuntu 12.04 lts amd 64 why does it not fully install?
[02:40] <phunyguy> so you don't have to do a full reboot
[02:41] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> I don't see an option for nvidea when trying to compile kernel 3.8.4-1 using make nconfig
[02:41] <phunyguy> Snyda: what won't fully install?
[02:41] <dirte> thx phunyguy I saved that cmd :)... i'll have to look for drivers holstein
[02:41] <phunyguy> Snyda: what is missing, or not happening.
[02:42] <kjfdskjhfewrjunv> later all
[02:42] <Snyda> IDK I go thru the reformating of the Drive evereything loads up works fine then if turn off I have to reinstall for it to work
[02:42] <phunyguy> Snyda: not sure I follow
[02:42] <Soru> Good night
[02:43] <phunyguy> Snyda: what do you mean "if I turn off I have to reinstall".. are you turning it off during the install...?
[02:43] <Snyda> installs fine but when I reboot it shows a bunch of stuff loading but never does
[02:44] <phunyguy> Snyda: does it work after the reinstall?
[02:44] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[02:44] <Snyda> no not turning off while install after I reboot after install
[02:44] <JosephF> does it stop loading at a particular line of text and just sit there?
[02:44] <Snyda> it works so I use it surf net then turn off
[02:44] <phunyguy> you said you have to reinstall for it to work... does it actually work after that?
[02:44] <phunyguy> oh i see.
[02:44] <Snyda> wont load up again
[02:45] <phunyguy> that is odd.  Is there something potentially that you are installing after the reinstall that breaks it>
[02:45] <phunyguy> like updates?
[02:45] <Snyda> runs thru 10-20 mins woth of stuff then stops
[02:46] <Snyda> no not updates like it isn't installing something correctly
[02:46] <Snyda> it seems to me
[02:46] <Snyda> yea it works after installs fine
[02:46] <Snyda> it just I can't bookmark anything
[02:46] <Snyda> I can just dont save
[02:47] <phunyguy> Snyda: you are being really confusing, not trying to offend, but I am having a hard time actually understanding what your issue is.
[02:47] <phunyguy> you say it seems to work fine, but not really..
[02:47] <phunyguy> I dont know what that means.
[02:48] <renothing> hi, all
[02:48] <Snyda> asked me if it works fine after 2nd install. I said yes just can't save ne thing
[02:48] <Snyda> forget that part
[02:48] <phunyguy> What can't you save...
[02:49] <peawormsworth> I would like to have a user login to a text terminal console from the lightdm login. Is this possible?
[02:49] <Snyda> So I can install as many times as I want run with out install
[02:49] <phunyguy> I give up.
[02:49] <linux_pinguy> what is the best Linux distro  linux pinguy or linux easy peasy??
[02:50] <phunyguy> !best | linux_pinguy
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Snyda, I would check the md5sum of the ISO
[02:50] <Snyda> But if I install-reformat,install permeantly using whole hard) I can boot 1 time after install use but on 2nd reboot I get alot of command looking lines
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> or cde
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> cd
[02:50] <Snyda> help ya understand?
[02:51] <phunyguy> yes, but then you said you can't save anything.
[02:51] <Erealz> hello how do i give the webserver user write access to the www and every subdir?
[02:51] <phunyguy> Snyda: that is the part that I am asking for clarification on.
[02:53] <phunyguy> Erealz: sudo chown -vR www-data:www-data /var/www
[02:53] <Snyda> cause I have to reinstall so whats the point. I said at end "I can save but can't use them next boot" something like that
[02:53] <Snyda> k ill chk md5 but if that's ok ? after that/
[02:53] <phunyguy> Snyda: OK I get it now.
[02:53] <phunyguy> Snyda: it sounds like that is the issue
[02:53] <Snyda> md5?
[02:53] <phunyguy> yes, corrupt installation media.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:54] <Snyda> k thx phunyguy: ill chk it
[02:54] <peawormsworth> is it possible to have a user login from lightdm, but end up with a terminal console instead of a unity or gnome window. Is this possible?
[02:55] <Erealz> dud that did phunyguy thanx you just help me install owncloud
[02:55] <Rad-> Hey, how do I exec startx on boot?
[02:55] <Rad-> Ubuntu is ignoring my .bash_profile
[02:56] <peawormsworth> Erealz: I think if you make the directory the same user/group as the user assigned to web requests in the apache conf.
[02:56] <phunyguy> peawormsworth: I'm sure it is possible, if you want to delve into the config files of lightdm
[02:56] <phunyguy> but peawormsworth why are you trying to do this?
[02:56] <trism> peawormsworth: you can definitely create a session that just launches a terminal (gdm used to include one by default), it's not very pleasant though, might like something like ratpoison better
[02:57] <Rad-> start x on login*
[02:57] <phunyguy> Rad-: something wrong with lightdm?
[02:57] <Rad-> phunyguy, what's lightdm
[02:57] <peawormsworth> phunyguy: i just want to make one user forced to go to the terminal... and it will run a text application by default. I would prefer this over requesting the user go to another TTY to login and then switch back to lightdm for usual login.
[02:58] <Rad-> Oh. I don't have a display manager right now, apparently.
[02:58] <Rad-> Minimal install seemed to give me only a shell
[02:58] <trism> peawormsworth: the sessions are just .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/, just create one and put the Exec= line to whatever you want
[02:58] <phunyguy> Rad-: yeah, you may want to install lightdm or the like
[02:58] <phunyguy> let that handle getting X moving for you
[02:59] <Rad-> I usually run X and a WM though
[02:59] <Rad-> that's it
[02:59] <peawormsworth> trism: I will look into that. I just do not want to bring up unity at all tho.
[02:59] <phunyguy> Rad-: ok...
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Rad-, since you mention scripts as you might see here there are multiple instances of a startx usage. From a live cd I believe it is f10. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/startx.1.html
[03:00] <phunyguy> I need a break.   see you guys in a bit.
[03:00] <Rad-> ah. i need to create an .xinitrc lol
[03:00] <trism> peawormsworth: you don't need too, this is a simple xterm session: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642088/
[03:00] <Rad-> Btw, thanks. Ubuntu isn't my normal distro but school requires it
[03:01] <peawormsworth> trism: thx
[03:03] <JosephF> Rad-, what did you use to do a minimal installation? I'm wondering because I would like to do so. Did you use the mini.iso netinstaller or something else?
[03:03] <linux_pinguy> i did install alot of linux distro,  easy peasy, pinguy, ubuntu, fedora, vector linux, fedora.. the best , vector linux , pinguy , easy peasy , give it a try
[03:03] <Rad-> JosephF, mini.iso. LTS
[03:04] <JosephF> cheers
[03:04] <Rad-> does ubuntu use rc.d or systemd
[03:04] <Rad-> and also. cheers to ubuntu for including dmenu with the i3 metapackage
[03:05] <Rad-> still can't get x to start at login though
[03:07] <Jonathan__> I was wondering if someone had some ideas/help.  I am new to ubuntu and through the update manager I was told to upgrade to 11.10.  I did this and everything seemed ok, but after reboot I don't get a GUI but just a black screen (no signal).  Could anyone help me?
[03:08] <linux_pinguy> why jonathan did you not install ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 ??
[03:08] <holstein> Jonathan__: i would just install 12.04 or newer.. backup and reinstall.. it'll take less time
[03:10] <Jonathan__> I didn't have the option, I hadn't updated for awhile and had a notifcation in the top right of "update needed" and that I couldn't install any critical / new updates until I updated to 11.10.  I am very new to ubuntu and just want ot be able to see my desktop.  I can get a terminal, but if I boot normally (not recovery) it acts as if the computer never booted (no signal to monitor)
[03:10] <JosephF> Rad-, I've only done what you want to do on Arch, but what have you tried doing to get X starting on login? I think you will need to put a line at the bottom of ~/.bash_profile that reads "exec startx". I don't see why it wouldn't work on ubuntu as well.
[03:13] <Rad-> JosephF, well i'm actuall an arch user too and my .bash_profile is this "[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx" per the arch wiki.
[03:14] <Ben64> Rad-: why not install the desktop version of ubuntu
[03:14] <Rad-> Ben64, what do you mean?
[03:14] <Ben64> Rad-: instead of going minimal and trying to add gui on top
[03:14] <peawormsworth> trism: i created a new /usr/share/xsessions/terminal.desktop file. Then for one user I switched the .dmrc file to have "Session=terminal". However, the user still goes into unity and the .dmrc files keeps switching back to say Session=ubuntu.
[03:15] <Rad-> Ben64, because all i want is X and i3.
[03:15] <Rad-> I have i3 running. just can't get x to start on login
[03:20] <trism> peawormsworth: just switching the .dmrc can be tricky with accountsservice being used, might need to mess around with /var/lib/AccountsService/users/username
[03:21] <peawormsworth> trism: i should have just clicked the ubuntu icon from the lightdm login window for this user and switched it to my new "terminal" option. This worked. So i am fine now.
[03:21] <peawormsworth> Thanks for your help.
[03:21] <trism> peawormsworth: yeah definitely easier
[03:21] <Rad-> Any ideas on why Ubuntu is ignoring my ~/.bash_profile ?
[03:24] <rocky> hi i have 32 bit firefox and 64 bit chrome, installed 32 bit adobe flash plugin, now if i try to install 64 bit adobe flash plugin- it will remove 32 bit plugin..either one of them can be installed at a time, is there other workarounds to have 32 & 64 bit adobe flash plugins installed?
[03:25] <Rad-> Also does ubuntu use systemd?
[03:26] <peawormsworth> trism: I am searching to find a specification for all of the key value pairs in the xsessions/*.desktop files. I will keep searching, but if you know of a link or keywords to search on this, it would help.
[03:28] <trism> peawormsworth: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
[03:29] <peawormsworth> trism: most appreciated!
[03:32] <sublim21> hey all.  what would be the easiest way to create a keyboard shortcut to move files/folders to another directory?  im kind of a ubuntu newbie
[03:32] <sublim21> have mercy
[03:33] <Rad-> sublim21, create a keyboard shortcut...? What's wrong with mv target dest
[03:36] <sublim21> Rad-: heres the problem.  I got like 4 hard drives, with multiple files, of multiple copies of stuff.  im gonna sit here, and chug through all the files and folers.  i wanna quickly move the files/folders to other files/folders
[03:37] <Nimble> Rad-, ubuntu uses upstart
[03:37] <lxle> #phillw
[03:37] <xodiak> sublim21, I'm late to the conversation guy, but Beyond Compare might help you out a bit...?
[03:38] <Rad-> mimble this is an answer to which question?
[03:39] <Rad-> sublim21, yes..?
[03:39] <Rad-> so let's say i'm sitting in ~/folder1
[03:39] <sublim21> Rad-: i don't know what upstart is
[03:39] <sublim21> im looking at beyond compare right now
[03:39] <Rad-> I want to move all the files in folder1 to folder 2
[03:39] <JosephF> Rad-: Ubuntu doesn't use systemd, it uses Upstart
[03:40] <peawormsworth> this should be connected to flattr or bitcoin for tipping.
[03:40] <Rad-> cd ~/folder1; mv * ~/folder2
[03:40] <Rad-> i belive
[03:40] <xodiak> it's pretty cool. Made for comparing folders, but you can ctrl select and copy or move folders / files to other drives. I can't live without it at work.
[03:41] <eN_Joy> each day i have this line in my log: Mar 23 08:00:42 zjd2013 anacron[31419]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (exit status: 1) (mailing output), how do i find out exactly which job caused the problem?
[03:41] <Rad-> eN_Joy, isn't there a cron log file somewhere
[03:41] <Rad-> http://serverfault.com/questions/136461/how-to-check-cron-logs-in-ubuntu
[03:42] <sublim21> beyond compare appears to be the program im looking for.  basically, i've done the classic, omg omg gotta back up EVERYTHING.  but now i have like backups of backups that were only temporary backups to begin with. :/
[03:42] <eN_Joy> i filtered out CRON logs, but can trace it back...
[03:43] <peterrooney> sublim21: no tool can simplify the task of straightening out historical disorganization.
[03:44] <xodiak> sublim21, Been there. It's easy to get a buttload of files everywhere. Trying to be better.
[03:44] <myersg> I installed ubuntu on my netbook but every time I try and login it gives me this error: Cound not update ICEauthority file /home/myersg/.ICEauthority
[03:45] <xodiak> sublim21, You get like 30 days. Not a month but more like 30 days of use. I used it for a year before I purchased. Like 1 day a month
[03:48] <sublim21> xodiak: this is looking good.  it's also on windows and ubuntu, which is nice.   im gonna give it a shot.
[03:49] <peawormsworth> myersg: not running ice here, but should do the basics and check the file is owned and writable by that user: "ll /home/myersg/.ICEauthority" ... and if file doesnt exist then maybe try "touch <filename>" while logged in as myersg.  Is there a way to make my Ubuntu 12.10 window menu toolbar show on the window instead of the panel?
[03:51] <xodiak> (any open windows)
[03:52] <Rad-> JosephF, so apparently the problem is that UBuntu can't check that I'm on tty1. If I just do what you did with an empty "exec i3" it works. weird
[03:52] <peawormsworth> myersg: o crap... i have an Ice file too. I dindt know that. I guess we all do., I thought you were running something different. sry. Im not sure i can help you as I dont know wat im talking about. sry.
[03:52] <myersg> peawormsworth would it be ok if i did: rm .ICEauthority  to remove it? or would that mess stuff up?
[03:52] <myersg> hmm
[03:53] <myersg> well.. its ubuntu 12.04
[03:53] <myersg> 32 bit
[03:54] <peawormsworth> myersg: I dont know. but I suspect it is a bad idea to delete this file.
[03:54] <JosephF> Rad-: Do you mean that in the ~/.bash_profile you  just have "exec i3" ? Or in a different file?
[03:54] <myersg> I just did..
[03:54] <myersg> I am loged in now..
[03:54] <Rad-> JosephF, yeah
[03:54] <myersg> seemed to work..
[03:54] <myersg> don't know what kind of problems I may have caused though..
[03:54] <peawormsworth> myersg: Ok... I guess it is regenerated on login if it doesnt exist. Good work.
[03:55] <PatrickDickey> myersg: if you check, it should have recreated that file. As long as you can log in, don't delete it again. YOu shouldn't need to.
[03:55] <myersg> do you know the exact location of the file?
[03:55] <Rad-> i'm also kinda weirded out that i don't logout when i exit i3.
[03:56] <PatrickDickey> myersg: Did you encrypt your home folder and change your password, or install Gnome 3 by chance?
[03:56] <JosephF> Rad-: how are you exiting i3?
[03:56] <peawormsworth> myersg: you told us the file is here: /home/myersg/.ICEauthority
[03:56] <Rad-> JosephF, mod+shift+e
[03:56] <superboot> lastlog i3
[03:56] <myersg> I don't see it.. could it be hidden?
[03:56] <superboot> lastlog exec i3
[03:57] <superboot> oops...
[03:57] <myersg> and I did not install gnome 3
[03:57] <PatrickDickey> myersg: that's what the . means. It's a hidden file.
[03:57] <xodiak> ah ha:  sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu
[03:57] <myersg> how do I show hidden files?
[03:57] <xodiak> ctrl + h
[03:58] <myersg> it must have regenerated its self or something.. its there
[03:58] <PatrickDickey> myersg: from a command line  ls -la or what xodiak suggests from nautilus.
[03:58] <peawormsworth> myersg: CTRL-ALT-t and then type "la" or "ll /home/myers/.ICEauthority"
[03:59] <PatrickDickey> There was someone else in here earlier with the same (or a similar problem). ICEAuthority errors must be going around now like the flu.
[03:59] <peawormsworth> myersg: also, from the graphical file viewer, show hidden under View menu
[04:00] <myersg> ok, thank you.. like I said, it does show up. so most likely it regenerated its self upon login.
[04:00] <PatrickDickey> myersg: You didn't answer my first question, or if you did, I missed it. Did you encrypt your home folder when you installed?
[04:01] <myersg> yes I did
[04:01] <Flynsarmy> I have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes). HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle) failed: Operation not permitted". why is it not permitted?
[04:01] <myersg> I just installed tonight.., and I have now encrypted it.
[04:02] <PatrickDickey> myersg: That might be where the problem is then. When you encrypted it, it didn't update the .ICEAuthority file properly, so you weren't able to log in.
[04:03] <peawormsworth> is there a graphical way to create a new user that has an encrypted home?
[04:03] <myersg> no no, I could not login.. that was BEFORE I encryped it.
[04:03] <myersg> I did not just a second ago.
[04:03] <myersg> I did that*
[04:04] <chunkyhead> has anyone ever heard of using python to code by voice?
[04:04] <peawormsworth> myersg: did you create a new user that has an encrypted home? and using a graphical interface? I have been using the terminal for this. If you know how to do this graphically, please describe.
[04:04] <BrianH> Ok, I'm running into a major hiccup and I can't seem to find a way to fix it.  I'm installing 13.04 on a system that previously ran 12.10.  Installation from a live USB goes well and I get to where it wants to reboot.  The system reboots and I'm stuck at a purple screen.
[04:04] <PatrickDickey> chunkyhead: no. I've heard of a program called Palaver, or "Linux Speech Recognition".
[04:05] <peawormsworth> BrianH: 13.04 specific questions are in #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <BrianH> I let the purple screen sit for about 4 hours and nothing changes.  I force the system down, and then it loads with an error "An error occurred while mounting /boot"
[04:05] <Flynsarmy> I have some WD 2TB blacks plugged into a RocketRaid 2760A. when I do a sudo hdparm -S 180 /dev/sdj I get "setting standby to 180 (15 minutes).  You could try nomodeset also though.
[04:06] <myersg> peawormsworth I am a little confused right now.., I just installed it, using the wizzard. when I was unable to login the first time, I started the terminal (F2) and thn rm ICEauthority  and logged in using kdm
[04:06] <BrianH> PatrickDickey: how can I get to where I can enter nomodreset?  Just esc through the boot process?
[04:07] <PatrickDickey> !nomodeset | BrianH
[04:07] <BrianH> thanks :)
[04:07] <PatrickDickey> No problem BrianH Hopefully it fixes the problem.
[04:08] <myersg> I need sound help
[04:08] <myersg> it is not picking up my sound
[04:08] <myersg> on the top bar it shows the <| --
[04:08]  * PatrickDickey is out for a while. Have a good day/evening/night everyone.
[04:09] <myersg> and when I go to sound settings there is nothing to chose from.
[04:12] <ferronica> anyone help me regarding GEARY Mail
[04:13] <holstein> ferronica: did you ask the geary folks? otherwise, i might just use thunderbird since its working, and well suppported
[04:14] <ferronica> holstein, you mean geary specific channel
[04:15] <ferronica> holstein, where to ask geary people
[04:15] <holstein> ferronica: i would go to the site, and just ask where they say.. forum or email.. whatever
[04:15] <ferronica> holstein, hmmm
[04:16] <ferronica> holstein, dont know when do they reply
[04:16] <holstein> ferronica: http://blog.yorba.org/
[04:17] <holstein> ferronica: did you join the mailing list? http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geary
[04:18] <ferronica> holstein, no
[04:18] <myersg> I need help with sound
[04:18] <myersg> or how do I file a bug report?
[04:18] <holstein> !audio | myersg
[04:18] <holstein> !bug | myersg
[04:18] <exploit> does anyone speak spanish?
[04:18] <holstein> !es | exploit
[04:19] <exploit> OK
[04:20] <abetusk_> Sorry for the stupid question, but unless I press a space after a single or double quote, it won't actually appear.  If I press another character after a single quote, say, I get things like this áçé, etc
[04:20] <netherlands6> hi I just done installing ubuntu and when restarting I got this error: error unknow filesystem and I see the command line grub rescue
[04:20] <abetusk_> It's a keyboard thing, right?  Where do I set this to be an american english keyboard layout?
[04:20] <myersg> how do I restart pulseaudio?
[04:20] <netherlands6> Im on the live cd atm
[04:21] <holstein> myersg: you can just kill it, and it should come back
[04:22] <myersg> how do I do that?
[04:23] <holstein> myersg: i found this by searching "ubuntu kill pulseaudio" http://askubuntu.com/questions/230888/is-there-another-way-to-restart-ubuntu-12-04s-sound-system-if-pulseaudio-alsa-d and it looks like what i would do
[04:25] <ferronica> holstein, subscribed to mailing list
[04:25] <holstein> ferronica: cheers! good luck
[04:28] <amigamia> hi if you are unzipping a zipfile from the shell what is the command? gzip <filename>
[04:28] <myersg> that didn't seem to work
[04:28] <amigamia> ?
[04:29] <amigamia> i just installed unzip. i guess i just use unzip filename
[04:29] <amigamia> blah
[04:30] <holstein> myersg: what the issue? maybe its nothing to do with pluse.. you shouldnt need to restart it
[04:33] <m_W> Hi, so I'm on 12.04 and whenever I try to apt-get update now I get 404 Not Found all over the place. I disabled all external ppa's and selected Download from Server for United States in Software Sources. I'm not behind a proxy or anything. It was working fine a few days ago, I am stumped :/
[04:34] <holstein> m_W: i might just copy a known good sources file to be sure.. and try pinging the IP's..
[04:34] <m_W> holstein, ok is there a good place to get a good sources file?
[04:35] <holstein> m_W: i would just google.. or use a live CD if i didnttrust that
[04:35] <m_W> holstein, ok
[04:38] <Rad-> So...   Maybe that automatically goes to mirrors?  bah.  I'd like to choose
[05:02] <Rad-> netherlands6, you're trying to umount your hdd while you're running your computer???
[05:03] <netherlands6> Rad Ubuntu is install on a external HDD
[05:04] <netherlands6> im on a live cd atm and stuck on it until I fix grub
[05:05] <Rad-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd
[05:07] <Rad-> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/installing-ubuntu-to-a-usb-hard-drive/
[05:08] <netherlands6> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /media
[05:08] <netherlands6> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
[05:08] <netherlands6>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[05:08] <netherlands6>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:08] <netherlands6>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:08] <FloodBot1> netherlands6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <netherlands6> ok goodnite then this isnt helping at all everyone sleeping I guess will try in 8 hours
[05:12] <Rad-> netherlands6, did you format your hdd correctly?
[05:14] <netherlands6> ya I was on ubuntu few mins ago then it ask to restart to apply the update then I got the error: error unknow filesystem then I see the command line grub rescue
[05:15] <audio> can you add kde pannels and krunner/run in gnome-shell or unity?
[05:20] <maestrojed> I upgraded to Ubutntu12 and the optical out on my sound card wouldn't work. I am about to downgrade. I installed XBMCbuntu which is built on Ubuntu12 and the optical out works! Does anyone have any advice how I might get my sound card working in Ubuntu12.?
[05:26] <jimi_> my x server stopped working after upgrade... it shows an error message like unable to find module 1915 or somethong, and then dies...
[05:26] <jimi_> i had to manually load prior kernel
[05:33] <mnk> hi all
[05:34] <edson_> hi
[05:34] <mnk> I'm trying to install passenger 4 with multi ruby support
[05:35] <mnk> and I've installed passenger via apt-get on ubuntu
[05:35] <mnk> but I keep getting the following error:
[05:35] <mnk> .rvm/rubies/ruby-1.8.7-p371/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `gem_original_require': no such file to load -- phusion_passenger (LoadError)
[05:35] <mnk> every time I try and access the site
[05:38] <maestrojed> If Ubuntu12 won't work for me, is Ubuntu11 better then Ubuntu10?
[05:41] <audio> o.o
[05:41] <Noskcaj> maestrojed, there are two current versions, 12.04.2 and 12.10. get one of them
[05:42] <maestrojed> Noskcaj My sound card won't work in Ubuntu12.04 or 12.10. It use to work in Ubuntu10. I am trying to decide if I should bother with Ubuntu11 or just roll back to 10. My sound card is a must
[05:43] <Noskcaj> maestrojed, there is 11.10 and 11.04 , but maybe try 13.04 (beta1) instead. but ask for help on the driver
[05:44] <maestrojed> I have played with the driver a ton. Sought help for over a week. I will try 13.04.
[05:44] <Noskcaj> ok, good luck
[05:45] <maestrojed> Is the general opinion that 11.x was better then 10.x? It seemed like a short cycle. I guess that is what I was wondering
[05:47] <ben1253> i am unable to see any video on ubuntu?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> any packages for ubuntu that can download from soundcloud?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> firefox lags on it badly
[05:59] <amh345> evening all.   im using unzip to decompress a file.  is there anyway i can know if that file is completed it's decompression?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> amh345: try the commandline
[05:59] <amh345> ?
[06:00] <amh345> im using the command line.
[06:00] <amh345> err terminal
[06:00] <amh345> im trying to automate some processes. and i'm looking for a way to know if a file has completed it's decompression.
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> amh345: try some option to the unzip command
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> like --verbose maybe
[06:01] <sjihs_> hi, I am using zsh on urxvt/tmux terminal. The prompt displays irregular characters as this screenshot shows http://imgur.com/7KU6Xud.
[06:02] <amh345> lotuspsychje: im not sure if that's the path i need.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> amh345:man unzip
[06:02] <amh345> but thanks.
[06:03] <amh345> i was thinking for along the lines of a process id or something.
[06:03] <Flynsarmy> My ubuntu 12.10 is just sitting at the loading screen. is there a way I can tell what went wrong?
[06:04] <Flynsarmy> or turn off the splash screen so I can see errors during startup
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> f1
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> Flynsarmy:or modify grub for txt boot
[06:06] <somsip> sjihs_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Flynsarmy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92276/how-do-i-boot-into-true-text-mode
[06:07] <soundsfromsound> Hello all, is this message going through? I've had some issues with Pidgin tonight, just making sure it's all set now.  Thank you.
[06:07] <somsip> !test | soundsfromsound
[06:08] <soundsfromsound> Thank you!
[06:09] <sjihs_> somsip: 12.04
[06:12] <somsip> sjihs_: so why is the prompt for arch@arch-Thinkpad? It may be that you have an issue at the server, rather than with the client. I'd look at terminfo issues myself first. Installing ncurses-termcap (or somethign similar) helped me when I had urxvt/ssh issues
[06:12] <sjihs_> somsip: Ah ok. I just set the hostname to arch
[06:13] <sjihs_> somsip: My worksplace provides support for Ubuntu and RHEL. while i myself use Arch at my home desktop. Hence the hostname.
[06:14] <somsip> sjihs_: it was ncurses-term, but your problems could be server or client, so YMMV in installing this on the ubuntu end
[06:15] <sjihs_> somsip: This is on the local shell. I have not remote logged into any server
[06:15] <sjihs_> somsip: just checked, ncurses-term has already been installed
[06:15] <somsip> sjihs_: then i have nothing
[06:16] <sjihs_> somsip: ok. Thanks for your time though
[06:33] <peawormsworth> i would like to close down the lightdm service under a terminal and then bring it backup for use after.
[06:33] <confrey> hi everybody
[06:33] <peawormsworth> I am trying "service lightdm stop" and later "service lightdm start"... but lightdm doesnt seem to come back.
[06:33] <peawormsworth> is there another option for this?
[06:34] <peawormsworth> and also... is "telinit" an option?
[06:34] <ashwin_live> grub is asking for password but i didnt set any. now i cant boot into any os .please help
[06:34] <confrey> whi can't I ever connect my asndroid phone without having errors? and I can't ever copy files to it without tyroubles
[06:36] <peawormsworth> ashwin... I have an idea... but it is not simply. Ill wait for someone else to help u first.
[06:37] <DanaG> Say, I have a LUKS-encrypted laptop, on Ubuntu 12.10... and for some reason, the password prompt is invisible every time I boot.  I have to either type my password blind, or press escape twice, to get Plymouth to show it.
[06:40] <dv-> DanaG: i get the same... i just remove the graphical boot from grub in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:41] <killer> i installed mate, now i m building a small app that needs to get the list of applications under different categories like accessories,games,graphics,internet,office,etc
[06:42] <pasqualee> ciao
[06:42] <pasqualee> !list
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, At the grub menu on booting?
[06:43] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:43] <we6jbo> hi
[06:43] <DanaG> oh yeah, and in my case, the same happens both with intel KMS and with vmwgfx KMS.
[06:43] <we6jbo> todays my birthday
[06:43] <DanaG> (I've set up VMWare Player in Windows to boot the native Ubuntu.)
[06:43] <laurenr> happy birthday
[06:44] <we6jbo> Thanks!
[06:44] <laurenr> did you get cake?
[06:44] <we6jbo> No
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Do you have any encryption?
[06:44] <laurenr> :( well make one!
[06:44] <we6jbo> ok
[06:45] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: nope
[06:46] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Hmm, I have never seen that without setting a password for grub, so if you choose a grub entry any one you get a password prompt does it as for a users name as well?
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> ask*
[06:47] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: yes
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, I assume you are familiar with Ubuntu, however are you sure it is not the login gui?
[06:48] <killer> like in case of ubuntu-software center ,there are categories like accesories,office,System ...how can i get all installed apps under these categories using terminal
[06:49] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: nope, this problem started after i updated some packages
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, I just don't know to be honest, grub in general I am quite familiar with so I thought it pertinent to at the least ask a few questions, hopefully others will know.
[06:51] <ashwin_live> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642413/ i find this in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[06:52] <peawormsworth> i am wondering if the grub password option is a solution to the full luks encryption issue... where the /boot partition cannot be encrypted.
[06:54] <ashwin_live> also my grub.cfg is empty
[06:55] <theadmin> !recovergrub | ashwin_live
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, the 40_custom is a user modified part of grub generally, I'm not familiar with any auto changing of it from apps if this is what happened.
[06:55] <theadmin> ashwin_live: The instructions here apply even if you haven't installed Windows, though.
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I wonder if a purge and reinstall of grub may be what is needed, what do you think?
[06:57] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: If the system is bootable a simple "sudo update-grub" should suffice, though I've just joined and only got the part about grub.cfg being empty.
[06:57] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: If it's a deeper issue then yeah, that might be a solution.
[06:58] <hk_xghost> Hi all. Does anyone have a good idea regarding the state of bazaar development? I've read in a few different places that canonical has stopped development of bazaar, etc.
[06:58] <ashwin_live> theadmin: the real problem is that i cant boot into any os because grub is asking for username and password
[06:59] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Uhh... grub never asks for a username that's for sure.
[06:59] <hk_xghost> True.
[06:59] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Huh, no. Bazaar is still alive and well, all of the Ubuntu development takes place on Launchpad, which is a Bazaar host.
[06:59] <ashwin_live> this happed after a update
[06:59] <theadmin> ...Then again the last release WAS in 2012... I'm not sure anymore.
[07:00] <peawormsworth> if you set a password on grub, does it also verify the underlying kernel has not been changed? or is it just a superficial option to not make changing kernel options easy while booting from grub?
[07:01] <hk_xghost> I was asking about bazaar (which I know is in launchpad) because the beta2 was released about a year ago (July).
[07:01] <theadmin> peawormsworth: It's the second one. GRUB doesn't verify anything about kernels.
[07:01] <theadmin> peawormsworth: If you want true security, you want full disk encryption.
[07:01] <peawormsworth> too bad it doesnt do kernel hash checking or something. thanks tho.
[07:02] <peawormsworth> i am using full disk encryption, but my boot partition is not encrypted. Unless something has changed where full encryption is now "full"
[07:02] <theadmin> hk_xghost: This is really strange, honestly... They planned to release 2.6 in August last year but that didn't happen. Let me dig around and see what I can find.
[07:02] <hk_xghost> Yeah, that's the main reason for my bazaar question -_-
[07:02] <hk_xghost> One article was saying that canonical had stopped development because it had "realized" that it could not "compete" with Hg & Git =/
[07:02] <thrillERboy> Hi, I have two different partitions for ubuntu root folder and home directory, If I want to install ubuntu 13.04 when its released what should I do, just install it as previous time?
[07:03] <hk_xghost> theadmin: thanks a lot =)
[07:03] <hk_xghost> (BTW, I'm currently using bzr in my own home server, but was wondering if continued use would eventually lead to a "dead end")
[07:03] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Last commit to Bazaar's main branch on Launchpad is dated 2013-02-07, which is quite recent. I guess they're just slow with releases.
[07:04] <peawormsworth> theadmin: I was just musing over the possibility of doing a /boot content validation, to verify it has not changed while i was away.
[07:04] <hk_xghost> ah
[07:04] <hk_xghost> That's interesting info.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Here is a chroot link for using the live cd/usb to access ubuntu in root, it may as simple as updating grub from there and reloading it to the mbr, purging grub and reinstalling it, make sure when asked on a reinstall where grub is going it is the disc no partitions.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> ashwin_live, Or purging grub and reinstalling
[07:05] <peawormsworth> theadmin: that would be far easier then my current solution of keeping the /boot partition on a USB attached to my keychain.
[07:05] <hk_xghost> @theadmin: Thanks for the data. It seems they're just (painfully) slow with development & stable releases of the tool =(
[07:05] <theadmin> hk_xghost: Bazaar is pretty awesome. I find it a lot easier than Git, SVN, Fossil or HG and even more functional, so "can't compete" is pretty ridiculous.
[07:06] <confrey> so, what's about problems connecting android phones to ubuntu? do anyone cna explain about?
[07:07] <hk_xghost> @theadmin: Probably. Those were the words the authors were using though, not mine :) I've been using bzr for my personal projects (6+ months) and it's been good to me so far.
[07:07] <hk_xghost> Setup was certainly easier than Subversion, in my experience.
[07:07] <hk_xghost> I have not used Git or Hg
[07:07] <theadmin> confrey: Some Android phones support mass storage mode. If yours does, just use that. If yours doesn't, the alternative is to install AirDroid and use USB tethering, wi-fi tethering or just a wi-fi network available to you.
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> confrey, I suspect it has to do with the android version, my droid shows up fine in 12.04
[07:09] <theadmin> hk_xghost: btw, IRC isn't twitter. The @ may prevent certain clients from highlighting nicknames. Mine works fine but not every single one does. So, just use the nickname. It also allows for tab completion on nicknames, e.g. "thea<Tab>" renders theadmin.
[07:09] <confrey> theadmin, thanks, it's what I'm already doing ... but I can't understand why we - ubuntu and linux user - must we suffer so much regarding a phone OS like Android... WIn users are laughing
[07:10] <theadmin> confrey: Blame Google for using that weirdo MTP thing... It's seriously strange considering Android is Linux-based :/
[07:10] <theadmin> Oh well, I say wait for Ubuntu Phone :P
[07:11] <hk_xghost> theadmin: I use neither twiter nor facebook, but thanks for the hint. I'll keep it in mind ;)
[07:12] <susi> Say I want to extract all the files in /usr/share/doc for browsing, I know I can do a "find . -name *.gz" but can I pipe that into gunzip to extract all the files it finds?
[07:12] <theadmin> susi: find has an -exec flag.
[07:12] <theadmin> susi: Use that.
[07:13] <susi> (or rather, how can I, since I know it can be done)
[07:13] <susi> theadmin thanks, couldn't remember the call
[07:13] <theadmin> susi: e.g. find . -name '*.gz' -exec gunzip '{}' \;
[07:14] <theadmin> susi: An alternative in similar cases is to use xargs: find . -name '*.gz' | xargs gunzip
[07:15] <susi> that seemed to have caused an awful lot of "too many levels of symbolic links" but otherwise it extracted
[07:16] <susi> at least i can browse now, thank you
[07:19] <ashwin_live> how can i check my version of ubuntu
[07:21] <theadmin> ashwin_live: lsb_release -sc
[07:24] <peawormsworth> what is the default runlevel? or wat is # in "telinit #" to return to normal mode?
[07:24] <peawormsworth> clue: # is something between 2 - 5
[07:26] <peawormsworth> well... based on wikipedia... im thinking it is 3?
[07:26] <peawormsworth> or 5?
[07:27] <peawormsworth> upddate: telinit 5 got lightdm login back... but no consoles seem avaiable with F1-F5.
[07:29] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Ubuntu doesn't have runlevels...
[07:30] <peawormsworth> theadmin: what is the alternative i should research? to get it into single user mode?
[07:30] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Single user? Append "single" to the kernel command-line.
[07:31] <renothing> hi, anybody can help me ?
[07:31] <renothing> http://pastebin.com/ZCDYa7Ck
[07:31] <ashwin_live> i tried to purged grub but now i cant reinstall it
[07:31] <ashwin_live> is it because my live cd is a different version of ubuntu
[07:33] <peawormsworth> theadmin: well ubuntu seems to recognize "telinit 1"... and F6 - lightdm turns off. And then "telinit 5" returns lightdm.
[07:33] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642464/
[07:33] <peawormsworth> update: "telinit 5" returns lightdm and all CTRL-ALT-Fx terminals... I was wrong before. its working now.
[07:34] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Well, I'll be more precise, Ubuntu does the following runlevels, 0, 6, 1, 2
[07:34] <theadmin> peawormsworth: 2 - 5 are the same thing.
[07:36] <peawormsworth> theadmin: thx for the info. and also. doing telinit 1  and later telinit 2 is not a good idea. It changes the running system in a way I cannot yet determine.
[07:51] <ashwin_live> what will happen if i delete /boot folder ?
[07:51] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Nothing good
[07:52] <ashwin_live> will i be albe to boot into windows
[07:52] <ashwin_live> theadmin: ?
[07:52] <Thete> ashwin_live: Why is your computer not resolving archive.ubuntu.com?
[07:53] <theadmin> ashwin_live: Well, no, because GRUB does that, too.
[07:53] <Thete> ashwin_live: Add the address to your host file fix your apt issue and then try and figure out why your machine isn't resolving DNS
[07:54] <ashwin_live> Thete: ?? . my problem is grub is not working
[07:55] <ashwin_live> now it is showing grub bash
[07:55] <gin95> does it show any errors?
[07:55] <Thete> I was looking at your paste
[07:55] <gin95> ah
[07:55] <Thete> just format that thing and reinstall
[07:55] <gin95> yes
[07:55] <codepython777> I'm looking to run a ubuntu system with 10GB Hard drive space. I would prefer to install a very lean version of ubuntu on it. Any suggestions on how to do this? Should i just try the regular install , or perhaps there is a nice vm already that i could just use?
[07:55] <Thete> codepython777: You could use the server version
[07:55] <Thete> codepython777: It's pretty minimal
[07:56] <codepython777> Thete: how does that compare with : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD ?
[07:56] <Thete> Interesting, I haven't tried that one
[07:56] <codepython777> Thete: I guess it just downloads the packages, that doesnt help
[07:56] <theadmin> codepython777: The Minimal CD will let you choose what to download/install.
[07:57] <gin95> by the way, is there a way to change the installation directory for packages? becouse i have an 1.5TB but its not the one ubuntu is installed in
[07:57] <Thete> I usually just start with ubuntu server and add what I need after that
[07:57] <theadmin> gin95: Most stuff that's installed goes to /usr. Symlink that to some other place and move stuff over.
[07:57] <theadmin> gin95: Make sure they're on a same filesystem, e.g. ext4 -> ext4.
[07:58] <gin95> thanks i will try that
[07:58] <theadmin> gin95: (you obviously need to do that from a LiveCD, you can't move /usr of a working system)
[07:58] <codepython777> theadmin: i was hoping someone would have already done a minimal selection for me -- http://crunchbang.org/about/ ?
[07:58] <nailsonlinux> codepython777, u can use ubuntu 10.04, install by alternative CD
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <theadmin> codepython777: Crunchbang isn't a supported distribution here. Besides, that's Debian-based, not Ubuntu...
[07:59] <theadmin> nailsonlinux: Don't recommend versions support for which will end in a month :/
[07:59] <peawormsworth> is it normal for sudo to retain password information between logins?
[07:59] <codepython777> theadmin: is there something like that available for ubuntu?
[07:59] <theadmin> codepython777: Well... Lubuntu is pretty minimalistic but it still eats a bunch of HD space sadly
[07:59] <codepython777> nailsonlinux: I'm just looking to only use 800MB max of space to run, prepackaged would be great, or else i can pick packaged
[07:59] <peawormsworth> i was thinking the above is a bad policy.
[07:59] <nailsonlinux> theadmin, thanks for the advice...
[07:59] <theadmin> peawormsworth: No, that's definetly not normal.
[08:00] <peawormsworth> ok. i am using 13.04, so maybe i will report this there.
[08:00] <codepython777> theadmin: is lubuntu well supported? looks like its not that bad in size
[08:00] <theadmin> codepython777: It's one of the official Ubuntu versions, so yes, it has the same level of support as Ubuntu.
[08:01] <peawormsworth> theadmin: it is occurring on my 12.04 TLS too.
[08:01] <nailsonlinux> codepython, i'm not a guru, but i would recomend something different, like archlinux or even LFS. but prepare your soul.
[08:01] <peawormsworth> theadmin: Specifically I am doing: CTRL-ALT-F1 and login as user. "sudo ls" and type password. Logout, login, "sudo ls" (no password required).
[08:03] <theadmin> peawormsworth: Yes, that's not supposed to happen :/
[08:03] <peawormsworth> ah ok. I would think login out would flush the sudo permissions.
[08:04] <AlexzAK> Hi, everybody! I have problems with video hardware on Ubuntu 12.10. I using it on Sony VAIO SVE1711V1RB laptop. It has AMD Radeon HD 7650M video driver. Both open source and proprietary (including beta version) drivers show artifacts. Please say me what to do! I wish provide any assistance with that issues
[08:04] <peawormsworth> I guess i will need to research how to flush sudo rights more carefully now.
[08:04] <AlexzAK> Is there are someone who can help with AMD video issues?
[08:05] <theadmin> peawormsworth: You can manually make sudo forget stuff by using "sudo -K"
[08:05] <peawormsworth> will do thx
[08:06] <nailsonlinux>  AlexzAK, have you tried the latest version of proprietary driver
[08:06] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: I am not familiar with sony. but is that the laptop you have to shutoff and remove the power cord and press a special button to get into the BIOS??? Sony is crazy different IMO
[08:06] <jatakk> Anyone here know anything about i3 and/or conky?
[08:06] <jatakk> I'm using i3 with Conky to pipe info to i3bar, but it's not updating
[08:07] <jatakk> i3bar only updates once on login or when it's restarted
[08:07] <jatakk> I can post my config and conkyrc files if anyone thinks they can help
[08:08] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: Yes, I tried latest drivers including beta version, issue is same. But everything ok in windows
[08:08] <AlexzAK> peawormsworth: No, I can go in BIOS in a regular way
[08:09] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: thats nice. I was testing new laptops using ubuntu live on usb... just to see how well they worked... and the sony model was the only one which required me to go home and read their user manual to figure out how to do this. Maybe it is just a "special" model i saw.
[08:10] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, I've a AMD/ATI board on a desktop, and i had A LOT of issues like you. it was fixed on newer versions of AMD driver
[08:10] <AlexzAK> peawormsworth: nailsonlinux: Do you know somebody how maintain thouse drivers?
[08:11] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: I hoped they will fix my issues, but three months passed by with no fix
[08:12] <AlexzAK> nailsonlinux: I think, that nobody knows about such issues. I filed bug report on proprietary driver with no feedback
[08:12] <peawormsworth> AlexzAK: I have no useful information for u. And I dont know any driver programmers. I just admire them from a distance.
[08:13] <AlexzAK> Is there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?
[08:15] <adriano_> .xchat2/budus.so
[08:15] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, peawormsworth, as far as i know, AMD give less attencion for Linux drivers, and it gets worse. Sony always mock us and change the hardware specifications, so many chip maker drivers won't work
[08:17] <nailsonlinux> AlexzAK, peawormsworth, i know it 'cause i had a Vaio some years ago... and ALWAYS i had to pray to make it just OK. even on Windows.
[08:18] <AlexzAK> Besides that I want Ubuntu working with my hardware, I want to help with that somehow
[08:19] <ashwin_live> http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.in/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd-pendrive.html i tried the following steps but my boot menu have ony memtest . no windows or ubuntu
[08:19] <AlexzAK> Is there are some "Ubuntu hardware" team? Or who is responsible for hardware support?
[08:20] <killer> hey
[08:21] <Capprentice> Is there any one who is using Midori ?
[08:21] <AlexzAK> I will try to describe my problems to #ubuntu-kernel
[08:23] <quarkey> Hi there, I have a question reguarding sound quality and ubuntu with zenbook prime ux31a. How far off is the sound quality compared to windows 8?
[08:23] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642552/ can find ubuntu or windows images
[08:25] <killer> i want to get list of all softwares installed under category games(in software center) using the terminal
[08:29] <ashwin_live> which is the better way of fixing grub? reinstalling ubuntu?
[08:29] <nailsonlinux> killer, u can use apt-cache search *game*
[08:30] <AlexzAK> ashwin_live: I fixed grub from livecd... google it, it was easy to me
[08:30] <nailsonlinux> killer, or something like this, choose you wildcards :)
[08:30] <ashwin_live> AlexzAK: i tried but now grub cant find ubuntu and windows images
[08:31] <Wiky> 1
[08:31] <killer> nailsonlinux: you don't get it ,all installed packages under the category games,or like internet(which should show firefox,pidgin ,etc)
[08:31] <plusEV> 2
[08:32] <TheWeatherGuy> Hey Guys
[08:33] <nailsonlinux> killer, excuse me :( i don't have a answer for that
[08:34] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ashwin_live
[08:36] <killer> .join #crunchbang
[08:37] <Shashank> i installed ubuntu 12.10 yesterday. it was working well but the screen brightness was not changing. i found out that it is a bug in ubuntu. so i searched on net and changed the xorg.conf file. now i am not able to start ubuntu, it is showing a grey coloured screen and nothing is happening . please help
[08:38] <ashwin_live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:38] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:38] <qin> Shashank: did you make back up of xconf?
[08:38] <nailsonlinux> Shashank: try to use a backup file, usually xorg.conf~
[08:39] <Shashank> no, earlier xorg.conf file didn't existed on my system i created the file from command line.
[08:40] <nailsonlinux> Shashank: did you tried to remove it?
[08:40] <qin> Shashank: Did you try to boot into text mode?
[08:40] <qin> ups, sorry
[08:40] <ashwin_live> AlexzAK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642575/
[08:40] <Shashank> i don't know how to boot into text mode
[08:41] <qin> Shashank: press shift to get to grub, press e to edit, add text in kernel line
[08:42] <qin> i think you want to remove "splash" option too
[08:42] <Shashank> do i have to add text in the starting of the code
[08:43] <qin> Shashank: rather replace "splash" with "text"
[08:43] <Shashank> done,, now f10 for rebooting?
[08:44] <qin> Shashank: ctrl-d
[08:45] <Shashank> ctrl d not working. and the page is showing ctrl x or f10 to reboot
[08:45] <qin> right, ctrl-x
[08:45] <ashwin_live> how can i remove grub and directly boot into windows?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: Something is massively wrong. It looks like when that grub.cfg was generated you didn't have most of the files in /etc/grub.d/. On top of that it's very odd that you have an ext2 filesystem at all, and a separate ext4 partition which seems to have no OS on it. Do you know how you ended up with souch an odd, non-standard, generally broken configuration?
[08:46] <ashwin_live> ext4 partition is my /home
[08:47] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: ext2 have ubuntu in it
[08:47] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: Why is your root partition ext2? Any idea where the other files in /etc/grub.d/ went?
[08:47] <Thete> ashwin_live: to boot back into windows you'd have to boot from a windows CD and restore the MBR
[08:48] <Shashank> nothing happening. a black screen has appeared
[08:48] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: From an Ubuntu liveCD run *exactly* these commands: sudo software-properties-gkt -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[08:49] <ashwin_live> Jordan_U: for what
[08:49] <Jordan_U> ashwin_live: That is, to install an MS style MBR that will just boot Windows (assuming Windows is installed properly).
[08:49] <Thete> oh cool
[08:49] <Thete> I didn't know you could do that
[08:50] <Thete> thanks you
[08:50] <Shashank> qin: it is not booting, a black screen has appeared
[08:52] <qin> Shashank: probably, using live system to edit is fastest way.
[08:54] <Shashank> you mean using a bootable usb or cd?
[08:54] <qin> uhm
[08:55] <Shashank> but i don't have one right now. i updated my system from ubuntu 11 to ubuntu 12.10 using update manager. directly from internet
[08:56] <qin> Shashank: Did you try to boot into recovery and.or older kernels?
[08:56] <Shashank> nope.
[08:57] <Shashank> i have to do that from advanced options for ubuntu?
[08:58] <qin> Shashank: from grub, recovery mode have option to reconfigure xorg
[08:59] <histo> Shashank: How did you manage to ugprade from 11 to 12.10?
[08:59] <Shashank> i have booted in .linux 3.2.0-39 generic (recovery mode )
[08:59] <histo> Shashank: okay remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file you created
[09:00] <histo> Shashank: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && reboot
[09:00] <Shashank> there is a screen showing different options resume, clean,failsafex..
[09:00] <Shashank> which one to enter
[09:01] <histo> Shashank: can you post a picture of the screen to imagebin
[09:01] <qin> Shashank: failsaveX, to see if it will work..
[09:02] <Shashank> it has again entered the same grey screen from the failsafex
[09:04] <chunkyhead> my teamviewer is not detecting my mic in ubuntu, please help!
[09:04] <Shashank> if the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine
[09:08] <Shashank> qin: if the file is causing problem, can we open that xorg.conf file from windows and then edit it, i have windows 7 installed and it is working fine
[09:09] <histo> chunkyhead: you would probably have to contact teamviewer support
[09:09] <Shashank> some software can show ubuntu installation files in windows
[09:09] <histo> !sound | chunkyhead
[09:10] <chunkyhead> histo, sound's working just fine. i wanted to know is teamviewer ported from windows to linux? because then the audio problem is understandable
[09:10] <histo> Shashank: hold shift during boot to get to the grub boot menu and boot in recovery mode.
[09:10] <histo> Shashank: then move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and reboot the machine.
[09:12] <Shashank> recovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?
[09:14] <Shashank> histo:recovery mode under advanced options for ubuntu?
[09:15] <histo> Shashank: yes
[09:15] <histo> Shashank: or you can boot to the install cd and fix from there.
[09:17] <Shashank> i have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[09:17] <Shashank> which option should i chose?
[09:20] <Shashank> histo:i have entered recovery mode. there is a screen showing  some options resume, clean,dpkg,failsafex fsck, grub, network, root, system summary
[09:21] <lee__> hehe
[09:23] <histo> Shashank: root
[09:24] <Shashank> done, it is prompting my username as it is in the terminal
[09:25] <lee_tiger> 能用中文吗？
[09:25] <Shashank> now which command to edit the xorg.conf file
[09:26] <ikonia> Shashank: it's just a text file, any text editor you are happy with
[09:26] <quarkey> how much diff is there on sound quality on a live cd and actuall installed ubuntu?
[09:26] <ikonia> quarkey: should be none assuming you have enough ram to run a livecd and buffer audio
[09:26] <quarkey> :(
[09:26] <histo> [C after you login
[09:26] <lee_tiger> 想请请教个问题，在状态栏不显示输入法图标
[09:26] <ikonia> !cn | lee_tiger
[09:27] <histo> Shashank: After you login sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[09:27] <histo> Shashank: then you should be able to reboot
[09:27] <lee_tiger> ／join #ubuntu -cn
[09:27] <ikonia> lee_tiger:  /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:28] <lee_tiger> 在哪进入中文的？
[09:29] <ikonia> lee_tiger: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[09:29] <Shashank> mv cannot move: read only file
[09:29] <quarkey> ikonia, do you know if it's possible to get better quality with some drivers etc? I got Zenbook Prime ux31a.
[09:30] <histo> Shashank: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[09:30] <histo> Shashank: then try the mv command
[09:30] <ikonia> quarkey: depends on your sound card, it's support in linux and your listening device (and of course the audio source)
[09:31] <lee_tiger> ／join #ubuntu  -cn
[09:31] <ikonia> lee_tiger: /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:31] <lee_tiger> ？？
[09:31] <chunkyhead> how to lock a folder which is in my home?
[09:32] <ikonia> chunkyhead: change the permissions so only your user can read it
[09:32] <Shashank> histo: the command executed w/o any error, should i forcefully turn it off and then reboot?
[09:32] <quarkey> ikonia, the difference between w8 and 12.10 is rather big, 60-70% better with windows.
[09:32] <histo> Shashank: which command?
[09:32] <chunkyhead> no no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?
[09:32] <Shashank> mv
[09:33] <the_bender> i agree there @quarkey
[09:33] <ikonia> quarkey: please re-read what I said is the limiting factors
[09:33] <histo> Shashank: if it executed fine after the mount command I gave you then sudo reboot
[09:33] <chunkyhead> ikonia,  no no, that way if anyone else is in my acc, they can also see. i want it to ask for a password. isn't there something like that inbuilt in linux?
[09:33] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you don't give someone your account, that's the point of user accounts
[09:34] <Shashank> what does sudo means. it is there in many ubuntu commands?
[09:34] <histo> !sudo | Shashank
[09:34] <chunkyhead> ikonia, is there a way by which people would have to enter a password to get access to a folder other than the one you stated? it's a home pc
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you give people different accounts, there is encyption but that is over the top for home users
[09:35] <histo> Shashank: we give people comand line commands in here because it's easier to explain than click here then there etc..
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: the point is to give each user a different account
[09:35] <chunkyhead> ikonia, just answer what i am saying. i just want that folder to be locked that's it -_-
[09:35] <Shashank> histo: thanks a lot. :) it rebooted successfully
[09:35] <histo> chunkyhead: it's a multiuser system. Each user should have an account
[09:35] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just do what I say
[09:35] <chunkyhead> histo, come on guys -_-
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why don't you tell us the truth
[09:36] <reddot> lol
[09:36] <chunkyhead> ikonia, tell you what truth?
[09:36] <histo> Shashank: Now for your brightness issue.... Have you tried adding the backlight options to the kernel in grub
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: well, why you can't use the user permissions properly
[09:36] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why you are ignoring the advice and just repeating the same question
[09:36] <Shashank> how to add kernel?
[09:37] <ikonia> Shashank: why are you trying to add a kernel ?
[09:37] <chunkyhead> ikonia, i know how to use permissions lol. i just want the a window to pop up when i try to access the folder
[09:37] <ikonia> Shashank: what's wrong with the one you've got
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why ?
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: the file system permissions should manage that
[09:37] <chunkyhead> ikonia, how to implement?
[09:37] <ikonia> chunkyhead: set the file system permissions so only your user can read them
[09:38] <Shashank> ikonia: i don't know much about using ubuntu,histo told me to add backlight option to kernel so i asked how to do that
[09:38] <chunkyhead> ikonia, oh my god -_- you dont know any other way so please tell me i will stop wasting my time here
[09:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why don't you tell me the truth
[09:38] <histo> Shashank: What laptop do you have?
[09:38] <ikonia> chunkyhead: why you want this "pop up password" rather than using the file system permissions as they are meant to be used
[09:38] <Shashank> dell xps
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, chmod <permissions> filename
[09:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I know how to use chmod
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, even i know how to use
[09:39] <histo> Shashank: have you seen a bug filed for it's brightness issues yet?
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do u know any other way is what i am asking
[09:39] <chunkyhead> chunkyhead, the way i want it
[09:39] <chunkyhead> ikonia, the way i want it
[09:39] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes, which is why I keep asking you why you want to do this instead of using the file system permissions
[09:40] <Myrtti> !xy
[09:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, IT IS A HOME PC -_-
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes, that doesn't change anything
[09:40] <chunkyhead> i have only 1 acc ikonia i cant add more low on space
[09:40] <chunkyhead> ikonia, ^
[09:40] <Shashank> yes
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: you can use multiple users
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: using multiple users and 1 user will not change the disk space significantly
[09:40] <chunkyhead> that'd be adding another acc ikonia
[09:40] <ikonia> chunkyhead: correct,
[09:40] <histo> Shashank: let me look somethign up real quick
[09:41] <Shashank> ok
[09:41] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do u even understand what i am saying lol
[09:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: very much
[09:41] <chunkyhead> ikonia, did you understand my question?
[09:41] <ikonia> chunkyhead: yes,
[09:42] <chunkyhead> ikonia, do you have another answer to it apart from permissions?
[09:42] <mohsen_> lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?
[09:42] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I'm going to back away from this problem, as I don't believe you are being honest
[09:42] <chunkyhead> ikonia, honest in what context?
[09:43] <ikonia> chunkyhead: well, the file system permissions are the correct way to do this, and the fact that you are low on space does not mean you can't use multiple users, as the home directories are only a few k
[09:43] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so I can only assume you have some other reason which you refuse to share, so I can't advise you
[09:43] <mohsen_> lubuntu has problem with Cairo-dock ....does anyone have such experience?
[09:44] <mohsen_> no any help?
[09:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia, other people in my family use it for tp stuff like 5min use and then off. that to once a week or something, so i dont want to create another acc. that's it.
[09:44] <ikonia> chunkyhead: I'll back away
[09:44] <chunkyhead> ikonia, you could have done that before thanks anyways
[09:44] <ikonia> chunkyhead: understood
[09:44] <Narel> Hi
[09:45] <mohsen_> ?
[09:45] <mohsen_> please help me
[09:45] <mohsen_> ?
[09:45] <Narel> I've a problem of slow speed in LAN mode with my RALINK  RT5390
[09:45] <histo> Shashank: Is it an xps 13?
[09:45] <ikonia> mohsen_: you need to provide information beyond "has a problem"
[09:45] <Narel> just 1,5 m/s
[09:45] <Narel> and I'm near of my AP
[09:46] <Shashank> no xps L501x
[09:46] <Narel> with another laptop and atheros chip 5,5M
[09:46] <Narel> I think there is problem with rt2800pci driver
[09:46] <Narel> but I don't know how to solve it
[09:47] <chunkyhead> oh anyone knows how to get the list of all the manually installed packages till date?
[09:47] <dr_willis> im not sure the system realli differantes beteen manually and 'automatically' installed
[09:47] <histo> Shashank: the only thing you should need in your xorg.conf is Section "Screen"
[09:47] <histo>  Identifier "Default Screen"
[09:47] <histo>  Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"
[09:47] <histo> EndSection
[09:47] <histo> Shashank: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5642680/
[09:47] <FloodBot1> histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <histo> Sorry for the paste in channel stupid client
[09:48] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/73180/how-to-see-packages-installed-on-a-given-date-using-aptitude   chunkyhead    may help
[09:49] <Shashank> can you please tell me where to find this xorg file or command to open it from terminal
[09:49] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, thanks
[09:49] <histo> chunkyhead: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=892381
[09:50] <histo> Shashank: I thought you rebooted and X is now working
[09:50] <histo> Shashank: you could sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to edit the xorg.conf from cli
[09:51] <chunkyhead> histo, yeah that zip method i know. wasn't quite what i was looking for. i should be able to update that folder regularly. in this case i've to periodically zip and update
[09:51] <chunkyhead> histo, my bad didnt read down
[09:51] <surio> I set up conky to startup on system login, but conkey disappears short while later
[09:51] <surio> s/conkey/conky/
[09:52] <surio> If I run it on commandline by myself, it persists :?
[09:52] <surio> :/
[09:52] <surio> :-/
[09:53] <surio> I do not provide additional command while calling it on terminal
[09:53] <surio> anyone has come idea on this conky behaviour?
[09:53] <chunkyhead> surio, go to startup
[09:54] <chunkyhead> surio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 10
[09:54] <surio> startup applications on the top panel?
[09:54] <dr_willis> surio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky
[09:54] <chunkyhead> surio, open dash type startup first thing that comes up
[09:55] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it
[09:55] <surio> I have edited it now
[09:55] <surio> conky -p 10 Good
[09:55] <chunkyhead> surio, log off and logon as soon as you do open terminal and type top
[09:55] <Myrtti> chunkyhead: luks or truecrypt might do What you want, if you wait 15min Ill get to my keyboard
[09:55] <surio> OK, anf?
[09:55] <chunkyhead> surio, it'll show you processes conky must be in the top 5.
[09:55] <surio> and?
[09:55] <chunkyhead> Myrtti, alright :)
[09:56] <surio> Will do and let the chat room know
[09:56] <chunkyhead> sure
[09:56] <chunkyhead> sure surio
[09:56] <surio> Ciao
[09:56] <Slart> are there any alternatives to unity3d for ubuntu 12.10? or should I hope they did some new magic in 13.04 to improve performance for things like moving windows without lag
[09:57] <chunkyhead> Slart, there's no alternative to unity3D unless you can install unity2D somehow. if you're not so impressed by unity you can install gnome ( i dont like it but it's aimed at simplicity ) or the new kde (windows like desktop whose latest version is EPIC)
[09:57] <Soul_Sample> Slart: unity alternatives? no. but there are a lot of other desktop environments and/or window managers
[09:58] <Soul_Sample> what chunkyhead said
[09:58] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, :)
[09:58] <surio> Weird
[09:58] <surio> Top shows conky
[09:58] <chunkyhead> surio, what
[09:58] <surio> And conky camu up when I logged in
[09:58] <Slart> chunkyhead: unity2d seems to be a no go, starting from 12.10 but I run the new gnome on  my laptop.. guess that might be an alternative. Thanks
[09:59] <Slart> Soul_Sample: thanks
[09:59] <surio> and I clicked on my desktop
[09:59] <surio> conky disappeared off screen
[09:59] <surio> conky still comes on top
[09:59] <surio> but not on screen :/ Does it make sense?
[10:00] <chunkyhead> Slart, gnome has a lot of compatibility issues. so i prefer kde. old gnome was better i felt
[10:00] <chunkyhead> surio, do one thing
[10:00] <Soul_Sample> surio: i think you need to play with the window_type setting in .conkyrc
[10:00] <surio> all eyes/ears
[10:00] <Soul_Sample> surio: maybe it's called differently, but it's the one that has settings such as: desktop, override....
[10:00] <dr_willis> surio:  conky may be starting. then nautilus or whatever is starting afterwarsa and conky is going underneeth. thats the reason for the  delay in the script running also.
[10:00] <chunkyhead> surio, open another terminal type pkill conky and then check top, type conky again and then check if that it again dissappears
[10:01] <dr_willis> surio:  this only happens at the initial login? or every time you start conky?
[10:01] <Slart> chunkyhead: oh.. haven't seen any of that yet.. anything major? or just things that need to be updated by the packagers?
[10:01] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, hence i suggest him that
[10:01] <surio> OK, let me try chunkyhead's suggestion first
[10:02] <chunkyhead> gnome needs to fixed lol devs needed for gnome haha
[10:02] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i think it's going underneath because conky still running in the background
[10:02] <dr_willis> I think its more of the old skool way conky does things.
[10:03] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  yep. and the conky faq definatly state a need for a 'sleep 30' line in the startup scripts
[10:03] <dr_willis> My Fave conky setup for now -> http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180
[10:03] <surio> chunkyhead: yu. When I start conky& and click on desktop it disappears
[10:03] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, woah! 30? haha mine works with 5. :) i'm glad
[10:03] <chunkyhead> surio, you're using unity?
[10:04] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  not like it really matters
[10:04] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, it takes time to appear. that's it.
[10:04] <surio> conky disappears from the screen after I click on desktop, even when I start from commandline
[10:04] <dr_willis> chunkyhead:  i got other things starting up getting done durnt the delay
[10:05] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, i'm a little OCD when it comes to startup stuff so.
[10:05] <Soul_Sample> surio: can you open your .conkyrc and check what own_window_type: says?
[10:05] <dr_willis> get over it? ;)
[10:05] <dr_willis> surio:  try some other conky configs. perhaps one will work.. and it will then show its a conky config issue
[10:05] <surio> Soul_Sample: You read my mind. I was reading your commants and looking at it: ;)
[10:05] <surio> own_window_type desktop
[10:06] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, can't.. not unless i get a chrome book. i was thinking of gettng one and looked at the processor, i thought i was in the 90s again
[10:06] <Soul_Sample> surio: try replacing desktop with override
[10:06] <dr_willis> surio:  those conky-colors examples  work well for me on unity
[10:06] <chunkyhead> oh btw if you're interested i can send you my conky surio
[10:06] <Soul_Sample> surio: also, if that doesn't work, you can try "normal". but override usually worked for me
[10:07] <dr_willis> i rarely even use conky any more.. just more clutter on the desktop with info i rarely need
[10:07] <Soul_Sample> dr_willis: conky is a phase everybody needs to experience! :D
[10:07] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, hahaah well said
[10:07] <chunkyhead> Soul_Sample, right pointed out, it needs to over ride
[10:08] <patr|ck> how can i check whether my ubuntu setup uses the nvidia driver?
[10:08] <chunkyhead> lspci if i am not wrong patr|ck
[10:08] <dr_willis> patr|ck:  run the nvidia-settings tool
[10:08] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, won't lspci list it?
[10:08] <surio> chunkyhead: Sure, I would like to learn from others :) if you are willing to share :)
[10:09] <dr_willis> lspci will list the card.. but not if the driver is USED
[10:09] <dr_willis> isent that what he asked?
[10:09] <patr|ck> yes
[10:09] <surio> All: Let me try Soul_Sample's suggestion
[10:09] <chunkyhead> dr_willis, oh yes. :)
[10:09] <dr_willis> or does he mean does it HAVE a nvidia card? :) lspci would answer that
[10:09] <surio> of adding override first.
[10:09] <Slart> patr|ck: you can try running this, as well..     glxinfo | grep -i nvidia
[10:10] <stormelc> lspci | grep VGA
[10:10] <chunkyhead> btw guys what does the grep do?
[10:10] <patr|ck> it says "you do not appear to be using the driver"
[10:10] <patr|ck> oh no
[10:10] <patr|ck> that explains a lot now
[10:10] <Slart> chunkyhead: searches a file or stream for a regular expression
[10:11] <chunkyhead> Slart, can't we just write eg a*
[10:11] <Slart> chunkyhead: so     ls | grep something    will search the output from "ls" and only print the lines containing the word "something"
[10:11] <Slart> chunkyhead: for ls that works.. grep is useful for so much more
[10:11] <patr|ck> how can i install the nvidia driver so its used by all kernels?
[10:12] <stormelc> how does the battery life in ubuntu compare to win7?
[10:12] <stormelc> I have read there were kernel regressions affecting battery life. Is that true?
[10:12] <Slart> stormelc: for normal cases I would say it's a little bit better in windows 7, mostly because the computer makers support windows 7 a bit better
[10:13] <chunkyhead> stormelc, depends from machine to machine. my friend gets just 20mins on battery on ubuntu 12.04 on windows he gets >1hr. i on the other hand ger more on ubuntu 12.04
[10:13] <Forage> good morning
[10:13] <Slart> stormelc: but if you put some effort into it you could get a much leaner system with linux.. but that will take some work and effort
[10:13] <surio> No discussion on grep is complete without this chestnut:
[10:13] <surio> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll use regular expressions."  Now they have two problems.
[10:14] <Forage> my system fails to start after resetting it because it hang
[10:14] <chunkyhead> surio, was your problem solved by override?
[10:15] <surio> I have to log off first... but before that I had to dig up that quote before the discussion lost steam ;)
[10:15] <surio> So, brb
[10:15] <stormelc> S1art - I run awesome wm on an old laptop. Does running a lightweight wm actually affect battery life a lot?
[10:15] <Forage> it starts untill plymouthd, showing the background image with the vertical blue bars
[10:16] <Forage> it never reaches the login screen
[10:16] <Forage> no errors are given
[10:16] <Slart> stormelc: you tell me, you're the one running it =) my guess would be that it does
[10:16] <lee__> #ubuntu -cn
[10:16] <chunkyhead> stormelc, what's wm?
[10:16] <Slart> stormelc: but there might be other things affecting battery time as well.. the wm is just one thing
[10:16] <stormelc> I have no idea, I never ran anything on it except for awesome
[10:17] <stormelc> I have noticed laptop-mode-tools actually shortens the life
[10:17] <chunkyhead> has anyone tried sudo apt-get install sl ? :P
[10:17] <Slart> stormelc: oh.. that's kind of odd.. or is laptop-mode getting outdated?
[10:18] <Forage> I tried recovery mode, running fsck and failsavex, but when using those two options it will stop working after the read/write mounting of the first driver (/dev/sdb5 xxx/xxx files xxx/xxx blocks)
[10:18] <Forage> I can access root, and run fsck from there
[10:19] <Forage> but it comes back with nothing
[10:19] <chunkyhead> anyone know where are the tray icons stored? and how to replace them from custom icons if they are in binaries?
[10:19] <stormelc> might be :P Ugh. I wish there was good support for optimus
[10:20] <Forage> I disabled all not needed mounts in crytab and fstab in case it fails to mount one if those, but still no go
[10:20] <stormelc> Battery life for the optimus laptop in Win7 is like 9 hours. 6 hours in precise with bumblebee :(
[10:20] <surio> Thanks Soul_Sample
[10:21] <surio> It works
[10:21] <Soul_Sample> surio: ^^
[10:21] <Narel> stormelc, you can use wine with bumblebee ?
[10:21] <surio> chunkyhead what does your conkyrc look like?
[10:22] <Forage> what can be the cause and what can I do to fix it?
[10:22] <surio> Also, do you think the conky p 10 is still needed?
[10:22] <stormelc> Narel - I haven't tried o.o
[10:22] <stormelc> Narel - I don't see why not though
[10:22] <surio> Oh, I lost the ealrier deviantart like you posted? Where is that again?
[10:22] <surio> !logs
[10:22] <k1l> stormelc: complains to nvidia that they dont support optimus on linux :/
[10:25] <Forage> no one got an idea?
[10:25] <ikonia> Forage: remove the splash
[10:26] <k1l> !away > surio|afk
[10:26] <Forage> ikonia: that's a grub settings, no?
[10:26] <ikonia> Forage: correct
[10:26] <makoto> greetings. is it possible to reomve the search integration and cloud rubbish from ubuntu?
[10:27] <jrtappers> makoto, Which cloud parts? The dash? Ubuntu One?
[10:27] <Slart> makoto: aren't those "features" regular packages? might want to search for "unity" with  apt-cache search
[10:27] <ikonia> !adlens | makoto
[10:27] <Forage> ikonia: I doubt that that will change anything, it has always worked, but I'll give it a go to see if I get at least an error to work with
[10:28] <makoto> i haven't installed ubuntu yet, just wanted to know how deeply rooted those "features" were
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash
[10:28] <ikonia> Forage: I don't think it will fix it, but it will remove the splash so you can see why it's hanging
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, First answer shows a switch to disable online search results
[10:28] <makoto> would that stop all traffic to/from the internet when using the search?
[10:28] <jrtappers> makoto, Should do
[10:29] <ikonia> makoto: yes
[10:29] <makoto> awesome. thanks.
[10:29] <Forage> ikonia: GRUB_TERMINAL=console?
[10:29] <ikonia> Forage: no, the splash option
[10:29] <makoto> i'll be back later after installing
[10:29] <jrtappers> makoto, Dualboot?
[10:29] <ars23> hi... does anybody know a good program for simulating electronic schemes? a program like pspice, for example!
[10:30] <Slart> ars23: I think there are a few in the repositories.. don't remember names though
[10:30] <jrtappers> ars23, For simulation of electronics Yenka is good, if you only use it at home its free
[10:30] <makoto> jrtappers: yep. i had mint on my thinkpad but i had to rma it and put windows back on :(
[10:31] <Slart> !info ngspice | ars23
[10:31] <ars23> thanks jrtappers
[10:31] <jrtappers> makoto, Make sure to set swappiness down after install
[10:31] <jrtappers> ars23, thats ok
[10:31] <makoto> jrtappers: it's turned up by default?
[10:32] <jrtappers> makoto, It defaults to 60
[10:32] <mcalexey> hi, is there some interesting commands to attract loggined in system user attention? something like "write user", "eject /dev/dvd1"
[10:32] <k1l> makoto: in 13.04 there will be extended settings to how and what will search where. and an easy off switch
[10:32] <jrtappers> mcalexey, Terminal or gui?
[10:32] <makoto> k1l: is it worth holding out for the release?
[10:33] <ars23> ubottu i tried ngspice without gui and you know, i'm new to electronics and i must create and test some circuits... so i need a simple program...
[10:33] <mcalexey> jrtappers, anything
[10:33] <surio> chunkyhead: Are you there?
[10:33] <jrtappers> mcalexey, See my previous message, it the logged in user attermianl or gui
[10:34] <surio> Soul_Sample: Is it necessary for the p 10 option in conky?
[10:34] <Slart> !info gspiceui | ars23
[10:34] <jrtappers> mcalexey, You can eject drives, play music, all sorts, popups in GUI, Message in termal
[10:34] <Slart> ars23: ubottu is just a bot..he/she/it just prints out information about the packages so I don't have to cut and paste
[10:35] <Slart> ars23: from what I remember pspice isn't very.. user friendly in the beginning.. you might want to look at some other stuff as well
[10:35] <mcalexey> jrtappers, and how to do gui popup?
[10:36] <jrtappers> mcalexey, You would use alert
[10:36] <ars23> yeah... but i don't know some other programs... i tried geda but i found that it's only for creating/editing a scheme...
[10:36] <surio> Soul_Sample: there?
[10:36] <k1l> makoto: i think the 13,04 is an advantage to 12.10
[10:36] <Soul_Sample> surio: not sure, what is it for?
[10:37] <surio> Let me copy from the log.....
 surio, programs, there select conky and in the command type conky -p 10
[10:37] <jrtappers> mcalexey, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240828
[10:37] <mcalexey> jrtappers, ?
 surio:  make the conky script wait for about 20 seconds befor it starts conky
[10:37] <ars23> and  gspiceui... or am I stupid and don't know to use it or i can't find the results in a graphic way
 dr_willis, 20's too much probably some process is killing it
[10:37] <mcalexey> jrtappers, ok, thanks!
[10:37] <rKiller> where am I??
[10:38] <surio> rKiller: in a galaxy far far way ;)
[10:38] <jrtappers> mcalexey, Thats ok, and they resolve the problem on that forum page
[10:39] <surio> Soul_Sample: I assumed that p 10 option was for delayed start?
[10:40] <Soul_Sample> surio: could be, makes sense
[10:40] <surio> Leave it in?
[10:41] <Slart> ars23: I can't really help you with ngspice or gspiceui.. it's been over 20 years since I messed with this stuff
[10:43] <aweroi> hello folks, I'm getting no response from ubuntustudio, so let me ask this here: if I install 13.04Beta 1, do I have to install 13.04 again when it's out or can I do a simple upgrade with the updater?
[10:43] <Sonikk> aweroi: you dont have to install it again. if you are in 12.10 then just use update-manager -d to upgrade
[10:44] <k1l> aweroi: no new install needed. but questions to unstable versions suit better into #ubuntu+1 :)
[10:44] <aweroi> ok thanks
[10:48] <Forage> ikonia: http://s7.postimg.org/t06ya15ff/IMAG0128.jpg
[10:48] <ars23> that's ok Slart
[10:48] <Forage> ikonia: this is all it gives me
[10:48] <Forage> all [ok] behind the lines
[10:52] <nubbins> hello
[10:52] <cfhowlett> nubbins, greetings
[10:53] <nubbins> gotta a couple questions, kinda got myself stuck installing linux
[10:53] <cfhowlett> nubbins, provide details and ask ...
[10:53] <swrh> hi. are there any developers around?
[10:54] <k1l> !ask | swrh
[10:54] <cfhowlett> swrh, maybe on #ubuntu-devel ???
[10:56] <swrh> kil, I wasn't gonna do that, but.. anyway
[10:56] <swrh> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:57] <nubbins> ok so long story short, I used unetbootin to run a live environment off of my c:\ (main partition with my windows 7 OS), I did this to install BT5r3 to my d:\ (a separate physical hdd). It installed however when I go to boot up d:\ it blank screen's with the blinking underscore top left. I can't boot back into windows but thats not too much of an issue. Anyway all I can get to boot up is the live environment off my c:\. Now the issu
[10:58] <nubbins> "ubiquity" wont run so I am unable to attempt an re-install to get linux running.
[10:58] <Myrtti> nubbins: first of all a technical note, IRC has a character limit to a message, you got cut off
[10:58] <nubbins> yeah i saw that
[10:58] <Myrtti> at "Now the iss"
[10:58] <Myrtti> nubbins: secondly, this is #ubuntu, not the support channel for Backtrack
[10:59] <nubbins> sorry I was unable to access their forums or any of their webpages for some reason until recently so I tried here first
[10:59] <Myrtti> !backtrack | nubbins
[11:00] <nubbins> ok thank you anyway
[11:14] <gr8> "hud-service" and "unity-panel-service" are eating up all my resources. what to do against that?
[11:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> now I'm not asking an opinion, I just need to know what I tell ubottu or best-bot to get alternatives to a software.
[11:15] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: the topic in #ubuntu-bestbot
[11:15] <stupidBYdefault> hello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output
[11:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: oops, wrong channel
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: wrong channel to talk to me in or wrong channel given?
[11:16] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: #ubuntu-bots,
[11:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> groovy
[11:17] <stupidBYdefault> hello.. can someone please give me instructions of -  how to acomplished 2 listen to the sound of mic at the same time of listening audio output? - example: listen 2 what is recording..
[11:18] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, try pactl load-module module-loopback.
[11:18] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, thank u
[11:18] <stupidBYdefault> what do i need to do?
[11:19] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules has info on the options of the module
[11:19] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, thank u
[11:20] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, just run the command and make sure your mic is not muted. this should just work
[11:20] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, can u give ne a detailed help? i dont know myself on ubuntu at all
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> so. i guess i need to open terminal.. right?
[11:21] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, start a terminal using alt+ctl+t
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> did
[11:21] <stupidBYdefault> ready
[11:22] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, and copy+paste the command pactl load-module module-loopback
[11:22] <stupidBYdefault> cronus, ready
[11:22] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, then press enter
[11:23] <stupidBYdefault> cronus! Congratz!
[11:24] <stupidBYdefault> Thank u very much!
[11:24] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, np
[11:28] <stupidBYdefault> cronus?
[11:28] <cronus> stupidBYdefault, yes?
[11:29] <Forage> GDM fails to start after a system crash. The system hangs at the splash screen with no error given. When disabling the splash, all things are started fine but GDM lists with a [failed]
[11:29] <Forage> I tried reinstalling gdm, to no avail
[11:30] <Myrtti> Forage: which version of Ubuntu?
[11:30] <Forage> 12.10 gnome remix
[11:30] <Myrtti> right, don't know anything about gnome remix.
[11:31] <Forage> I did install all gnome3 ppa packages
[11:31] <Forage> It all worked fine untill the crash
[11:32] <Forage> is there any way to find out why gdm fails to start?
[11:33] <stupidBYdefault> 1Q.. Does linux - ubuntu 12.04 lts, save some data of donwload/install to some folder and could be "stolen"? like... for example.. i have a very bad connection, and every computer i fix, i install linux.. now.. do to a slow connection, i takes 3 days to download/install software.. -> is it possible to - when once donwloaded (copy-paste) to some folder, and lather paste it to another computer? and than just let the updates runni
[11:33] <stupidBYdefault> ng?
[11:33] <pppZero> stupidBYdefault,  ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> i know.. copy - paste this to terminal.. :)
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> wow
[11:34] <stupidBYdefault> what i see now?
[11:35] <pppZero> that's the packages your computer has downloaded in the past, waiting to be copied to another machine to save you some download time
[11:35] <stupidBYdefault> ooo, nice... ok.. am.. where can i found those files on HD?
[11:36] <pppZero> in /var/cache/apt/archives/  ;)
[11:36] <stupidBYdefault> :) thank u pppZero  :)
[11:47] <brightness> i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.
[11:48] <brightness> please help
[11:48] <man_> Hi, when I start Chrome through a keyboard combination, the window does not get focus
[11:48] <man_> What can I do about that? If I start it from the unity launcher, it works
[11:48] <man_> I want to be able to launch a browser with key combination and then enter the url
[11:50] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help
[11:52] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons. please help
[11:52] <ddssc> anyone knows how to jail proftpd users to their home dir? as in that they're not allowed to view anything else besides their home dir?
[11:54] <ikonia> ddssc: there is a setting in the config file
[11:54] <jrtappers> If I install ubuntu as a dual-boot, can I still use FDE, only on the ubuntu side?
[11:54] <ikonia> ddssc: basically tell it to use real users, and activate the chroot option
[11:54] <ikonia> jrtappers: FDE ?
[11:54] <brightness>  i cannot adjust brightness of my dell Xps L501x using f4/f5 buttons.please help
[11:54] <jrtappers> ikonia, Full Disk Encryption
[11:54] <ikonia> jrtappers: that has nothing to do with dual boot
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: the point of dual boot is that they are totally seperate
[11:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heh, I've seen some folk get locked out of their own machine over fde.
[11:55] <jrtappers> ikonia, Its that I can see the FDE tickbox only next to the wipe option
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: possibly because you will need to encypt your install at install time
[11:55] <ikonia> jrtappers: I'd really suggest you think about if you need this though
[11:56] <su3j8ggijefj> can someone help me with regex ? i need to search for a patter that is a variable is that possible ? something like this : 	p = re.compile(thisvariable[1])
[11:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrtappers: what ikonia said. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone get stuck out of their machine over fde.
[11:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: what language?
[11:57] <su3j8ggijefj> python3
[11:57] <Forage> is there no one who can tell me how to find out why GDM fails to start and how I can fix it?
[11:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a #python channel, perhaps?
[11:57] <su3j8ggijefj> im new to irc
[11:57] <cfhowlett> !python
[11:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what is the nature of the failure?
[11:58] <ddssc> ikonia, DefaultRoot ~ , yes. I didnt form my question well, I want to be able to chroot each individial user to a specific dir, not necessarily their home dir.
[11:58] <ikonia> ddssc: I don't believe you can map users to specific dir's I think it maps to their home drive, I could be wrong though
[11:58] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: my system crashed so I had to reset it, now starting up hangs at the splash screen
[11:59] <suore> Hi, i've problem with QT Creator - cannot access to 'Desing'
[11:59] <suore> its grey
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what were you doing to make it crash?
[11:59] <su3j8ggijefj> how can i connect to #python ( im new to irc  )
[11:59] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: exiting a game
[11:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: type /join #python
[12:00] <su3j8ggijefj> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[12:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: try to boot and hit escape at the splash, should make the processes and such show up, get a bit more info
[12:01] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah I disabled the splah completely by altering grub to get that info
[12:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. can you get into a tty?
[12:01] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[12:01] <su3j8ggijefj> now i have another problem :  #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel how can i fix this ?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !register
[12:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> su3j8ggijefj: /msg nickserv help will tell you how to register and such.
[12:02] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: with splash disabled it only tells me gdm failed to start, no reason why
[12:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:03] <Forage> 12.10 gnome remix with all gnome3 ppa packages updated
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: you know, as much as I hate distro elitism "Pinguy/Gnome Remix/etc is not supported here" and all, but why not just go with vanilla precise and install gnome-shell yourself?
[12:04] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: it has been running fine for half a year, and the crash after exiting the game has occured before
[12:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> what game
[12:05] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: gnome remix is basically the same as doing it manually
[12:05] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: Heroes of Newerth
[12:06] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: reinstalled the video card drivers as well just in case, but still no diffference
[12:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> is that a native ubuntu game or what? not big on gaming outside of design or emulation
[12:06] <ElectricDuck> How do I launch the AMD Control Center from the terminal?
[12:06] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: no, http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/
[12:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, a browser game.
[12:07] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: no
[12:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> or nope
[12:07] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: I don't care much about that game crashing when I exit
[12:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: can you get any sort of access to your system, tty or anything?
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777:
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[12:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> willing to try somethin?
[12:08] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: anything to get it working again ;-)
[12:08] <companion> btw some people have trouble accessing my website on Ubuntu they claim it does not load. Can like 5 of you peeps try to load this site: www.spelletjesarcade.nl and see if it works?
[12:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> companion: works for me.
[12:09] <companion> Currently don't got an ubuntu install ready to check it out
[12:09] <companion> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks =)
[12:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: sudo apt-get install lightdm, and choose lightdm when it gives the option.
[12:10] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: ow dear, I was hoping to prevent that :-D
[12:10] <fale> hi
[12:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: why? I use gnome-panel myself, but I find lightdm's login to be beautiful
[12:11] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: but what then?
[12:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: try to boot again. if it hanged at gdm then it may not now.
[12:12] <dr_willis> Hmm. i Find lightdms default theme and layout - rather annoying. ;)
[12:12] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: and than switch back again to gdm? ;-)
[12:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> Forage: sure, give it a shot
[12:12] <dr_willis> Its way to 'hidden' to the user that the little round icon is where you click to select a differnt window manager.
[12:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: yeah, but sure is purdy
[12:13] <Forage> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, have to restart my system (dual boot), I'll give it a try
[12:14] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i thought it was rather ugly last i looked at it.. it had silly dots all over the wallpaper.. and really nothing i saw outstanding to make it purty
[12:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> dr_willis: you can get rid of da dots, and assign your own wallpaper
[12:15] <dr_willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  i did.. i switched to gdm