[03:49] <tom47> headphase now that you have done that though we should create an extended partition covering the remaining space on the hard disk
[03:49] <Peacer> soundray got any more suggestions?
[03:49] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:49] <headphase> tom47: I haven't done it yet
[03:50] <headphase> tom47: I think the primary is sda4
[03:50] <tom47> headphase if you have not done it yet than i think sda4 should be an extended partion covering all the spare space on the disk and we wil subdivide that for linux
[03:51] <soundray> lukas__: sorry, no personal experience here
[03:51] <khronus> lo all
[03:51] <soundray> Peacer: can you pastebin your menu.lst pls
[03:51] <headphase> tom47: so I should make the 21 gb an extended partition?
[03:51] <soundray> !pastebin | Peacer
[03:51] <ubotu> Peacer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <lukas__> ok thanks
[03:51] <Peacer> sure
[03:52] <khronus> tried to install ubuntu for first time last night, failed during install so i did the checksum disk check and it failed
[03:52] <Loveubuntu> this Ubuntu Lite it's downs? http://ubuntulite.org/?
[03:52] <khronus> so i re downlaoded and burnt it again from a diff mirror
[03:52] <Loveubuntu> this project http://ubuntulite.org/ it's down?
[03:52] <khronus> and that failed the checksum also
[03:52] <khronus> any ideas?
[03:52] <Pici> khronus: Try burning it at the slowest speed your burner supports, like 2x, sometimes that fixes those sort of issues.
[03:52] <soundray> khronus: check the md5sum of the downloaded image(s).
[03:53] <khronus> ok ty
[03:53] <yettenet> well, anyone for my java installing problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:53] <ntbnnt> khronus: if you're burning from windows, try the trial of alcohol120%
[03:54] <soundray> yettenet: please pastebin your /etc/default/upnpd as well
[03:54] <Peacer> soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5921/ :D
[03:54] <yettenet> sure thing
[03:54] <headphase> tom47: you there?
[03:54] <phatrabbit> is it worth upgrading to Edgy ?
[03:54] <bauer77> how would I run this file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run
[03:54] <erUSUL> yettenet: the problem is with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5919/
[03:54] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: it's stable... that's it
[03:54] <phatrabbit> ic
[03:55] <erUSUL> yettenet: is with linux-idg not with java
[03:55] <_Jonathan> phatrabbit: no, wait for feisty
[03:55] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: i use dapper for the lts
[03:55] <yettenet> soundray: could you tell me how to "execute" it or such? :P
[03:55] <lordkeiden> what is a simple way to sync folders betweer 2 laptops on a peer-to-peer lan?
[03:55] <Peacer> yettenet try sudo apt-get install linux-igd :)
[03:55] <phatrabbit> yer i use dapper 6.06
[03:55] <Peacer> brb
[03:56] <lordkeiden> big folders, over 2gb
[03:56] <soundray> Peacer: for cosmetics (and avoiding kernel update problems later on) put it after the automagic kernels list
[03:56] <varkatope> lordkeiden: rsync, but it isen that simple i think
[03:56] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: when i used edgy, it was the same damn thing
[03:56] <yettenet> Peacer: It says that it's already installed
[03:56] <soundray> Peacer: what's the exact error you're getting?
[03:56] <tom47> headphase yes
[03:56] <bauer77> how would I run this file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run  < Anyone?
[03:57] <headphase> tom47: so I should make the 21 gb an extended partition?
[03:57] <soundray> yettenet: retry sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin now
[03:57] <rojo^> bauer77: sudo sh ati<tab>
[03:57] <bauer77> thanks rojo
[03:57] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen
[03:57] <yettenet> The same
[03:57] <patrick__> ive tried all the log in options, but none work
[03:57] <yettenet> Should I reinstall linux-igd?
[03:57] <Peacer> I can't remember... I get it at startup, when I try to boot windows
[03:58] <Peacer> soundray*
[03:58] <IdleOne> yettenet, sudo apt-get -f install linux-igd
[03:58] <tom47> headphase whatever space is left after sda3 make into a single extended partition
[03:58] <lordkeiden> is there a clean way to remove the vista bootloader and go back to grub?
[03:58] <IdleOne> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <yettenet> The smae for your one, IdleOne
[03:59] <yettenet> *same
[03:59] <trelayne> hi all, is it possible to chroot a mounted / filesystem (that is on another bootable HD) so that in some way you can run a program in that context? The other HD has Dapper while my current has Edgy
[03:59] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5923/
[03:59] <headphase> tom47: ok
[03:59] <rojo^> lordkeiden: boot using a rescue disk, chroot to your installed linux "/" partition, mount /boot if needed, and type "grub"
[03:59] <JONES3700> are there any .nzb grabbers that work on ubuntu?
[03:59] <rojo^> lordkeiden: in the grub interactive mode, type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[04:00] <Peacer> filetype system unknown, partition type 0x7 or something
[04:00] <ntbnnt> lordkeiden: diito rojo^
[04:00] <LjL> root__: service message - IRC as root is a bad idea
[04:00] <Peacer> soundray*
[04:00] <rojo^> lordkeiden: whatever the output of that is, type "root (whatever)"
[04:00] <andy_o> what is the rc.local equivalent for adding commands to be run at shutdown in ubuntu?
[04:00] <IdleOne> yettenet, apt-get autoremove maybe
[04:00] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen...ive tried all the options to login and none will work, any ideas?
[04:00] <rojo^> lordkeiden: then type "setup (hd0)"  (assuming your installation is on hd0).  That'll overwrite the MBR
[04:01] <headphase> tom47: it is now pending
[04:01] <tom47> ok
[04:01] <yettenet> the same... lol
[04:01] <ntbnnt> patrick__: are you getting a graphical login?
[04:01] <IdleOne> yettenet, beats me
[04:01] <soundray> Peacer: are you back in Ubuntu now?
[04:01] <giuseppe> Hi guys, is possible use beryl with metacity theme for windows? thanks
[04:01] <tom47> now establish a partition withinit if 1gb for the swap partition
[04:01] <rojo^> lordkeiden: don't forget to have an entry in /boot/grub/menu.list for Windows.  Make sure you have the line under Windows for "chainloader +1"
[04:01] <headphase> tom47: do I go foward and assingn the swap root and home?
[04:01] <patrick__> ntbnnt: yes i am
[04:01] <yettenet> Bets me either :P
[04:02] <bauer77> what is the command to restart x windows without rebooting?
[04:02] <yettenet> Should I try to remove linux-igd and then reinstall it?
[04:02] <Pici> giuseppe: Yes, you need to install emerald, its a metacity theme engine for beryl
[04:02] <Otacon22> a software to make musical sheet on ubuntu?
[04:02] <rojo^> bauer77: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:02] <tom47> headphase now establish a partition withinit if 1gb for the swap partition
[04:02] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5924/
[04:02] <lordkeiden> Otacon22: denemo
[04:02] <soundray> yettenet: no, please pastebin your /etc/default/upnpd
[04:02] <patrick__> ntbnnt: when it logs in it shows a NVIDA display icon and then brings me rightback to the login screen
[04:02] <giuseppe> Pici where can I found it?
[04:02] <phatrabbit> how can i check if my drivers are up to date
[04:02] <ntbnnt> patrick__: any messages?
[04:02] <rojo^> anyone running two nvidia cards SLI?  Whenever I try enabling SLI (Option "SLI" "Auto" in Section "Device"), X freezes the console and never launches; can't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] .  Anyone else encounter this?
[04:02] <lordkeiden> rojo^: thanks
[04:03] <yettenet> soundray: the content of it or what? :P
[04:03] <patrick__> ntbnnt: nope, none at all after i log in and the NVIDA screen, it brings me back to wehre i enter my username, but no messages
[04:03] <ntbnnt> patrick__: try opening a console and login (Alt+F1)
[04:03] <convergence_> salmut
[04:03] <headphase> tom47: I can only create a new partition on the allocated space within the new partition, Proceed?
[04:03] <soundray> yettenet: if you want my help, stop pulling my leg.
[04:04] <giuseppe> Pici shall I add some repositories?
[04:04] <patrick__> ntbnnt: nothing comes up when i pess alt+F1
[04:04] <tom47> headphase my guess is the swap partition number is sda5 .... yes
[04:04] <convergence__> salut
[04:04] <Pici> giuseppe: I'm sorry, its called heliodor, not emerald.  How did you install beryl?
[04:04] <goundy> convergence_, yo
[04:04] <shiv> novacaine: Are u a doctoe?
[04:04] <nexousNET> When I'm in Mplayer,
[04:04] <goundy> convergence_, #ubuntu-fr pour le channel franais
[04:04] <headphase> tom47: it is a logical partition
[04:04] <tom47> yes
[04:05] <dooglus> ntbnnt: did you mean control+alt+F1?
[04:05] <nexousNET> whoops... When I'm in Mplayer, when I go to fullscreen, why doesn't it stretch out the video?
[04:05] <ntbnnt> wooo
[04:05] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:05] <tom47> headphase now make the other two artitions
[04:05] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926/ <--- here you go, I really don't know what you wanted
[04:05] <dooglus> ntbnnt: and if so, shouldn't you tell him how to get back to his X session?
[04:05] <Seveas> LjL, ?
[04:05] <Seveas> ah :)
[04:05] <ntbnnt> dooglus: y don't you then, hmmm?
[04:05] <LjL> Seveas: i removed mine, since it was narrower anyway
[04:05] <Peacer> soundray yep back in ubuntu
[04:05] <goundy> guys i've a problem
[04:05] <goundy> goundy@GLaptop:~/coding/bashanagi$ fglrxinfo
[04:05] <goundy> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:06] <soundray> Peacer: please run 'sudo fdisk -l' and pastebin the output
[04:06] <shiv> nexousNET: Just right click on screen and see optons
[04:06] <goundy> what does this mean?
[04:06] <Seveas> yeah, just realised that
[04:06] <ntbnnt> dooglus: he's getting the graphical login but when it wants to display the desktop it crashes
[04:06] <headphase> tom47: now do I create home and root logical partitions as ext3?
[04:06] <ntbnnt> dooglus: bypass the desktop, the goal is access
[04:06] <giuseppe> Pici I added the repositories and i typed sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[04:06] <mzuverink> Im installing postfix and am using via dsl with a dyndns dns, do I choose internet site, internet w/ smarthost, or what?
[04:07] <nexousNET> shiv: It goes to full screen, I'm just saying that the video is just wrapped around black space.
[04:07] <nexousNET> shiv: I want the video to actually stretch, not have a wrapper around it.
[04:07] <patrick__> any ideas?
[04:07] <tom47> headphase yuo use the format to options
[04:07] <shiv> nexousNET: LEt me see one, hold on
[04:07] <bauer77> can somebody help me install my ati drivers. I ran the installer from the ati website, but am still no getting graphics acceleration. I remember before I had to do something but dont remember what.
[04:07] <goundy> bauer77, i've the same problem :/
[04:07] <ntbnnt> patrick__: try opening a console and login (control+alt+f1) then you can switch back to your grapical login using con+alt+f7
[04:07] <yettenet> Well, soundray? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5926/ <--- here is the thing, but I really don't know what you wanted
[04:08] <Pici> giuseppe: Okay, so just `sudo apt-get install heliodor` for the Metacity themer.
[04:08] <ntbnnt> bauer77: what card?
[04:08] <Peacer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5929/
[04:08] <mzuverink> bauer77, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:08] <Peacer> soundray*
[04:08] <giuseppe> Pici thanks :D
[04:08] <bauer77> I had fixed it before, and I think I had to change fglrx
[04:08] <headphase> tom47: should I make both the same size?
[04:08] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:08] <bauer77> mzuverink: Ati Radeon Mobility 9700
[04:08] <mzuverink> anyone with an answer for that postfix q?
[04:08] <tom47> headphase circa 10gb is ok to begin with
[04:08] <ntbnnt> bauer77: try command, aticonfig --inital
[04:09] <soundray> yettenet: consider reading your error messages carefully, maybe then you'll understand
[04:09] <shiv> nexousNET: I do not have a video file to test, I always use movieplayer (Totem) instead of that one without any probs
[04:09] <patrick__> ntbnnt: it loged in that way
[04:09] <yettenet> I see
[04:09] <nexousNET> shiv: I can't use Totem, because only Mplayer will play my .wmv files.
[04:09] <giuseppe> Pici excuse me, I have another problem, I'm italian but when I try to write on ubuntu-it the answer is : #ubuntu-it :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel, but in past I wrote a lot in this channel...what happened?
[04:10] <yettenet> The one under the ----------- is the content of upnpd
[04:10] <ntbnnt> patrick__: sounds like its a problem with your graphics drivers
[04:10] <shiv> nexousNET: I see, let me download a few from the net ant give it a try
[04:10] <nexousNET> okay.
[04:10] <patrick__> ntbnnt: how can i fix that?
[04:10] <soundray> yettenet: edit your /etc/default/upnpd according to the changes I posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5932/ -- then run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[04:11] <ntbnnt> patrick__: errr... i'm no expert in that, but you can tell people that you can login via the console
[04:11] <headphase> tom47: does it automatically assign swap since it is in linux-swap format?
[04:11] <bauer77> who gave me the ati --initial command?
[04:11] <yettenet> thx, soundray, I'll be back in a minute
[04:11] <patrick__> ntbnnt: thanks for the help in finding out what it was
[04:11] <ntbnnt> patrick__: might help
[04:11] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a LAME package for 6.10?
[04:11] <ntbnnt> bauer77: me?
[04:11] <usuario> e
[04:11] <fredl> hi, I'm trying to create a yum repository on an Ubuntu 6.10 server...
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: did, it crash on you?
[04:12] <bauer77> ntbnnt: Thanks, that resolved my issue, what exactly does that do
[04:12] <[miles] > good afternoon #ubuntu
[04:12] <usuario> IRENE
[04:12] <LjL> usuario: ?
[04:12] <Pici> giuseppe: They probably had a problem with people spamming the channel.  See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for instructions on how to register.
[04:12] <patrick__> anyone know how to fix a graphics driver issue via a console login?
[04:12] <[miles] > guys, can anyone recommend a good XML editor please?
[04:12] <tom47> headphase ummmm no i think it has to be mounted as /swap
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: oh, good, it writes the default configuration files
[04:12] <soundray> Peacer: is your Windows partition fat32?
[04:12] <yettenet> I could've thought about it... thx, soundray... now I'm gonna try that java installing again :P
[04:12] <giuseppe> Pici thanks a lot ;)
[04:12] <fredl> I understand this is done with 'yum-arch', but when I type this on my Ubuntu box, it gives an error message: ImportError: No module named urlgrabber
[04:12] <headphase> tom47: got it
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: its a must
[04:12] <[miles] > and MLview bombs out often on my 64bit Ubuntu
[04:12] <ntbnnt> bauer77: easy to miss though ;p
[04:13] <capsaicin> #linux
[04:13] <fredl> I have python-urlgrabber installed though, so this error message makes no sense to me.
[04:13] <tom47> headphone hmmm looks like i am wrong
[04:13] <dooglus> tom47: you don't mount swap partitions.  you 'swapon' them
[04:13] <Peacer> soundray ntfs
[04:13] <phatrabbit> does anyone know how i can check if i have installed the latest Nvidia drivers
[04:13] <novacaine> how can I see a jpg in the shell?
[04:13] <tom47> headphase looks like i am wrong sorry abt nick
[04:13] <dooglus> novacaine: 'ls file.jpg'
[04:13] <bauer77> I had done it before but had forgotten, and that command didnt work before..
[04:14] <Kilroy> hello everyone
[04:14] <shiv> nexousNET: I downloaded this movie http://www.jhepple.com/support/SampleMovies/WindowsMedia.wmv and it plays fine without borders in mplayer for me
[04:14] <headphase> tom47: no, you were right
[04:14] <derder> i hate my notebook
[04:14] <bauer77> patrick__: your having the same issue?
[04:14] <nexousNET> shiv: what version do you have?
[04:14] <novacaine> dooglus: I want to display it...
[04:14] <patrick__> same issure?
[04:14] <dooglus> novacaine: in a shell?
[04:14] <soundray> Peacer: try mounting it with 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:14] <bauer77> with ati?
[04:14] <patrick__> what do you mean bauer77?
[04:14] <Pici> novacaine: in a terminal ?
[04:14] <shiv> nexousNET: Hold on its kaffeine thats playing it
[04:14] <soundray> novacaine: gnome-open file.jpg
[04:14] <novacaine> dooglus, Pici: yes
[04:15] <lordkeiden> why do the wmv files i watch smear colors all over the video window? this happens in xine, mplayer, and kaffene.
[04:15] <shiv> nexousNET: not the mplayer
[04:15] <dooglus> novacaine: you might find that mplayer can do some kind of ascii-art translation of it
[04:15] <nexousNET> shiv: hold on, ill give kaffeine a shot
[04:15] <bard> lordkeiden, use vlc
[04:15] <ntbnnt> bauer77: patrick__ has nvida
[04:15] <Kilroy>  what is ur guys favorite ftp program for linux? as a client
[04:15] <bauer77> ah ok
[04:15] <soundray> Kilroy: ncftp
[04:15] <Andy_o> ata1: translated ATA stat/err 0x51/04 to SCSI SK/ASC/ASCQ 0xb/   ---> is this a bad error message to get on dmesg?
[04:15] <patrick__> ohh yes sorry i wasn't following the other conversations
[04:15] <Andy_o> I get a bunch of those
[04:15] <bauer77> patrick__: Understood
[04:15] <Andy_o>  ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[04:15] <bard> Kilroy, kftpgrabber
[04:15] <Dasnipa`> Kilroy, sftp
[04:16] <soundray> Peacer: does that come back with any errors?
[04:16] <ntbnnt> i ran these initial configuration commands for my x1600
[04:16] <ntbnnt> bauer77: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx | sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:16] <HymnToLife> Kilroy, Konqueror :p
[04:16] <Kilroy> lol
[04:17] <Peacer> soundray yes
[04:17] <nexousNET> shiv: kaffeine is only for KDE? :/
[04:17] <yettenet> soundray: It seems like it worked, thanks :)
[04:18] <ntbnnt> patrick__: you might try that first command sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:18] <Peacer> soundray wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2 missing codepage or other error, in some cases useful info is found in syuslog try dmesg | tail or so
[04:18] <ntbnnt> patrick__: do it from the console after logging in
[04:18] <phatrabbit> does anyone know where to un .tar.gz Adobe flash
[04:18] <Firebird8> hello, how do you delete a menu in the menu editor?
[04:18] <wheels3572> Can anyone help me set up a launcher?
[04:19] <novacaine> dooglus: i can use ascii art with mplayer using aalib as video output..but mplayer don't want to open jpg files :P
[04:19] <Peacer> I chosed ntfs (fast) when I partitioned the rest of my diskspace for windoez with the windoez cd
[04:19] <ntbnnt> phatrabbit: anywhere
[04:19] <phatrabbit> its ok ig ot it thanks
[04:19] <fredl> can anybody here see the createrepo package? (apt-cache search createrepo)
[04:19] <FireHazard17> wheels3572: what version are you using
[04:19] <wheels3572> Firebird8, im running Xubuntu 6.10
[04:19] <secureboot> how does one install from a usb drive?  If I have an .iso, how do i make that into something I can put on a usb drive?  do i have to format the drive in any special way?
[04:20] <FireHazard17> wheels3572: idk using xfce
[04:20] <patrick__> ntbnnt:it said i had some packages that i could remove, its doing that, but i have to go thank you so much for your help
[04:20] <patrick__> if that doesnt work ill beback later!
[04:20] <secureboot> surely, there must be a good link out there somewhere
[04:20] <soundray> Peacer: just for sanity, try 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt'
[04:20] <CrakeHunter> hello, a quick question on security. a friend of mine thinks that linux is not as safe as windows because everyone can have a look at the source code and see the "backdoors". is that true?
[04:20] <ntbnnt> patrick__: cool, hope that does help
[04:21] <wheels3572> Firebird8, ok.  I was just trying to figure out how to associate an HTML file with Firefox using a launcher
[04:21] <Peacer> same error message
[04:21] <ntbnnt> secureboot: you should see the wikis on booting linux from usb
[04:21] <Pici> fredl: No, that doesnt look like a valid package name/descriptor
[04:21] <fredl> anybody here using Feisty? please check if you see createrepo (apt-cache search createrepo)
[04:21] <Firebird8> wheels3572, FireHazard17
[04:21] <erUSUL> CrakeHunter: "security by obscurity is long time ago debunked myth" by me
[04:21] <tkamppeter> Someone knows the usual way under Ubuntu to configure X if one has connected a new monitor?
[04:21] <FireHazard17> yeah
[04:21] <fredl> Pici - you on edgy or feisty?
[04:21] <LjL> CrakeHunter: yes. however, the opposite is true as well: everybody can look at the source, so there are many eyes that can *spot* backdoors and report them quickly, so that they can be fixed ASAP. on closed-source, you can have backdoors unspotted for ages
[04:21] <Peacer> soundray same error message (with fancy colours)
[04:21] <ntbnnt> secureboot: that's how i did it, followed the wikis
[04:22] <secureboot> ntbnnt: haven't been able to find wikis - which are you referring to?
[04:22] <CrakeHunter> ok, so it is not completely wrong, thanks guys!
[04:22] <Pici> fredl: I'm on edgy, packages.ubuntu.com says that createrepo should exist in universe on fiesty
[04:22] <ntbnnt> secureboot: let me grab 'em
[04:22] <wheels3572> FireHazard17, sorry I sent that to the wrong person lol
[04:22] <Pici> fredl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/createrepo
[04:22] <tijn> hi all
[04:22] <fredl> tnx Pici
[04:22] <wheels3572> Firebird8, sorry bout that didn't realize there were 2 fires lol
[04:22] <[OG] 6ton> any1 know were i can get winndows xp for free.. going to test dual boot
[04:22] <royel_> CrakeHunter: stuff like that would be discovered an shutdown pretty quick, since it is open source, if any one were to have the potential for what you describe, I would suggest it to be the "other" OS since it is closed an you can't see whats in the code.
[04:22] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: legally, you you can't
[04:22] <Pici> [OG] 6ton: Try asking in ##windows
[04:22] <erUSUL> [OG] 6ton: warez no allowed here
[04:23] <Dr_willis> [OG] 6ton,  go get a copy of freedoss its more fun.
[04:23] <tijn> how do i install gd? cant find the correct package, and the prog i want to use it for isnt very clear about it
[04:23] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: don' dualboot , stick to linux :p
[04:23] <ntbnnt> secureboot: what distro, ubuntu?
[04:23] <[OG] 6ton> Shaffox need to play ... css :D dont think linux is good at that?
[04:23] <[OG] 6ton> or am i wrong?
[04:23] <ardchoille> [OG] 6ton: My idea of dual-boot is Ubuntu and Kbuntu or Ubuntu and Xubuntu ;)
[04:23] <Shaffox> [OG] 6ton: yes it is
[04:23] <CrakeHunter> ok
[04:24] <secureboot> yeah
[04:24] <soundray> Peacer: there is a program called ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package. I would try that.
[04:24] <FireHazard17> yeah freedos is free
[04:24] <FireHazard17> xp is illegal
[04:24] <HymnToLife> ardchoille, why dual boot twice the same thing ?
[04:24] <Shaffox> !wine | [OG] 6ton
[04:24] <bulmer> [OG] 6ton: if you are in a junior college in the US...you can buy them or have them nearly free use for six months..ask around..they have student version
[04:24] <ubotu> [OG] 6ton: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:24] <secureboot> ntbnnt: yes, ubuntu
[04:24] <ntbnnt> k
[04:24] <Pici> tijn: For perl?
[04:24] <Peacer> soundray thank you for your help, I'll try that, is that package with the default ubuntu install or do I have to apt-get it `?
[04:24] <geek> hi
[04:24] <Firebird8> did someone forget the delete button on the menu editor?
[04:24] <FireHazard17> but XP sucks ass
[04:25] <ardchoille> HymnToLife: Ok, Ubuntu and Mepis?
[04:25] <tijn> Pici, really dont now, it says GD version : NO
[04:25] <soundray> Peacer: apt-get it
[04:25] <FireHazard17> i despise m$
[04:25] <Shaffox> secureboot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <soundray> !ohmy | FireHazard17
[04:25] <ubotu> FireHazard17: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:25] <tijn> Pici, found it! it wanted php4-gd :S
[04:25] <FireHazard17> soooooorrrrryyyy
[04:25] <[OG] 6ton> hmm.. but its true that i cant ply games in linus without wine or something like that.. :)
[04:25] <dooglus> novacaine: you can convert the .jpg to .avi and then to ascii maybe?
[04:25] <CheshireViking> I have a multi-boot system, 2 of which are Ubuntu - one to use and a 2nd copy to test updates/installs beforei do them on my primary system - not so much synaptic updates, but non-repo packages etc
[04:25] <bulmer> with out  problems in XP lots of us dont have work to fix them...so let em be.. :)
[04:26] <soundray> novacaine: you could also try printing it
[04:26] <FireHazard17> i like beryl
[04:26] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:27] <hossasaur> hello, i need a little help with driver install
[04:27] <HymnToLife> and gamepads :p
[04:27] <tom47> headphase how are you going there
[04:27] <Luis07> the new driver from nvidia doesn't show the "nvidia logo" on boot anymore?
[04:27] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, this isnt a We hate Microsoft Channel. perhaps a blog would be better suited for your hatred :)
[04:27] <FireHazard17> yeah they'rent bad
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Vilhelms,  what if you just move the mouse around? it likd scrolls a larger desktop?
[04:27] <hossasaur> i'm attempting to install drivers for my intel pro/100 3945abg wireless card
[04:27] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, they should be there by default
[04:27] <tkamppeter> Some X expert here?
[04:28] <ntbnnt> secureboot: i did it with debian, it may work the same, i dunno
[04:28] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: it detected my wireless, but i can't connect
[04:28] <HymnToLife> tkamppeter, assume there is and ask your question
[04:28] <soundray> tkamppeter: dime a dozen
[04:28] <hossasaur> so i assumed it was a driver thing
[04:28] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, No, only clicking on it does it
[04:28] <ntbnnt> secureboot: http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
[04:28] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, it's most likely not, why can't you connect ?
[04:32] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, please talk in here or #ubuntu-offtopic and no this isnt basicaly a Microsoft hate channel by any means
[04:32] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, And it only moves about 5 px up, and then 5 px down
[04:32] <rickympl> i have 2gb swap and 1gb ram, however my ram is almost full and the swap harldy used, is this normal?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> Vilhelms,  odd...
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ok ok
[04:32] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me what woudl stop an HTML file from not even loading when you press on firefox?
[04:32] <Vilhelms> Dr_willis, I would agree, it is odd =\
[04:32] <soundray> rickympl: yes
[04:32] <hossasaur> well, i haven't ran linux in 10 years, so i guess that's my problem
[04:32] <Dr_willis> rickympl,  yes.. why would you swap when you got ram free. :)
[04:32] <secureboot> rickympl: yes - that is normal and good
[04:32] <IdleOne> Ubuntu does not claim to Hate Microsoft on any of theyre official sites
[04:32] <tkamppeter> I have bought a 22" widescreen monitor and I am connecting it to a laptop. Now I want to configure X to use the monitor's 1600x1050 resolution. How do I do this in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <FireHazard17> buuut no on is talking in offtopic
[04:32] <HymnToLife> rickympl, yes, in Linux, unused RAM is wasted RAM
[04:32] <secureboot> rickympl: swap is really, really slow, so it shouldn't be used unless absolutely necessary
[04:32] <hossasaur> if i go to system=>admin tools=>network settings, it sees a wireless connection
[04:32] <Pici> !fixres | tkamppeter
[04:32] <ubotu> tkamppeter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:32] <IdleOne> FireHazard17, talkl and they will respond
[04:32] <pukeko> i need to mount a LVM disk on a non LVM system .. how do i do it /
[04:32] <soundray> rickympl: Linux is very good at making the best use of your hardware. It uses RAM for buffer space.
[04:32] <pukeko> *?
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ok fine
[04:32] <Peacer> soundray sudo ntfsfix /dev/hda2 fails to mount it :S
[04:32] <HymnToLife> the amout of RAM your programs don't use is udes for caching
[04:32] <Dr_willis> of course go ask Microsoft why they do it the other way...
[04:32] <royel_> FireHazard17: you could be the first then
[04:32] <hossasaur> but when i type in my ssid/key, it doesn't connect
[04:32] <ntbnnt> secureboot: some of the links may also point you in the right direction, you may have to be invenful
[04:32] <soundray> Peacer: I don't know much about ntfsfix -- I would read the manpage at this point
[04:32] <FireHazard17> no ubuntu doesn't hate ms there has to be a reason to use linux
[04:32] <rickympl> ok, thank you all for your answers
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: if i go to system=>admin tools=>network settings, it sees a wireless connection
[04:32] <Peacer> ok ^^
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: but when i type in my ssid/key, it doesn't connect
[04:32] <Peacer> afk
[04:32] <Bill_Gates> I love Linux!
[04:32] <FireHazard17> well it is a better OS
[04:32] <ntbnnt> omg
[04:32] <hossasaur> ha
[04:32] <gnopper> can somebody link me the deb of gaim 2beta6???
[04:32] <wheels3572> Maybe this can help. Failed to execute child process "/home/wheels/index" (No such file or directory)
[04:32] <Firebird8> gnopper, compile it
[04:32] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, try to configure it from command-line and see if it works f rom there
[04:32] <tkamppeter> Thanks, ubotu, I searched the Ubuntu forums before and there was no help.
[04:32] <gnopper> it is difficoult.... i'm busy ;)
[04:32] <FireHazard17> ubotu is a bot
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[04:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:32] <petepete> how can i extract from command line,  a specific folder in a bz2 archive ?
[04:32] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: how do you do connect from the terminal?
[04:33] <tanascar> Reinstalling now.. setting up a separate partition for root and home, what is a good size to make the root partition? I assume I should leave most the space for my home..  I have a 250gb drive.
[04:33] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, sudo iwconfig YOUR_IF essid YOUR_ESSID key YOUR_WEP_KEY
[04:33] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, and then sudo dhclient YOUR_IF if you want to use dhcp
[04:33] <unop> petepete,  man tar (the flag you want is --include i think)
[04:33] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:33] <dooglus> novacaine: did you try ! caca-utils ?
[04:34] <Firebird8> gnopper, download the rpm and use alien to convert it to a deb
[04:34] <dooglus> ! caca-utils
[04:34] <ubotu> caca-utils: text mode graphics utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-6 (edgy), package size 126 kB, installed size 324 kB
[04:34] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: thanks, but what's IF?
[04:34] <gnopper> great!!!
[04:34] <gnopper> i try
[04:34] <unop> hossasaur,  interface
[04:34] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, InterFace, the identifier of your interface, eth1, wlan0, whatever
[04:34] <HymnToLife> you can find it by typing iwconfig alone
[04:34] <phatrabbit> lol!
[04:34] <phatrabbit> "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[04:34] <hossasaur> thanks
[04:35] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: there's no wireless extensions
[04:35] <HymnToLife> oh
[04:35] <HymnToLife> on all of them ?
[04:35] <hossasaur> yes
[04:35] <soundray> tanascar: I use 2 GB for root on specialized installations (office machine) and 10 GB for experimental machines where I will try loads of different packages
[04:35] <HymnToLife> your wireless isn't detected then
[04:36] <tanascar> soundray: thanks
[04:36] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, try        sudo modprobe ipw3945
[04:36] <hossasaur> wait, nevermind
[04:36] <hossasaur> there is
[04:36] <hossasaur> i mistook it for nic
[04:36] <hossasaur> do i have to put the essid into quotes?
[04:36] <r00tintheb0x> Hey, when i connect 2 unix machines together... with a crossover cable and each machine has 1 NIC. What should the eth configuration be?
[04:36] <HymnToLife> if it is more than one word (e.g My Network), yes
[04:37] <HymnToLife> if not (MyNetwork), you can omit them
[04:37] <HymnToLife> but putting them won't hurt
[04:37] <hossasaur> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)
[04:38] <ntbnnt> is there a clean way to uninstall firefox from ubuntu
[04:38] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, you don't want to
[04:38] <dooglus> novacaine: did you try installing and running 'bb'?  It just broke my brain
[04:38] <dooglus> ! bb
[04:38] <ubotu> bb: ASCII-art demo based on AAlib. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3rc1-7 (edgy), package size 1166 kB, installed size 1832 kB
[04:38] <ntbnnt> i want to replace it fully with opera
[04:38] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: got this: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8b2a)
[04:38] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, use Opera then, but don't remove Firefox
[04:38] <hossasaur> thanks for the help, btw
[04:38] <HymnToLife> that's asking for trouble
[04:39] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, what is the command you typed ?
[04:39] <Enselic`> I have my wireless setup for WPA now, how hard is WPA nets to crack?
[04:39] <hossasaur> sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "XXXXXX" key "XXXXXX"
[04:39] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, don't put the key between quotes
[04:39] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:39] <ntbnnt> no, i want to
[04:39] <rickympl> anyone here know how to create an fserv using xchat? i tried osbidian2, but i keep getting a connection refused when trying to connect, is there any special port that has to be opened?
[04:39] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: i didn't the first time
[04:40] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, I repeat, you don't want to, that's asking for trouble
[04:40] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: i didn't think it was clean... :p
[04:41] <goundy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5934/
[04:41] <goundy> wtf?
[04:41] <HymnToLife> goundy, do you have correct drivers installed for your card ?
[04:42] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: yea, the wrapper that opera uses in linux is almost dependant anyway and yea, i was just wondering if it could be done clean...
[04:42] <meisam> hi, does anybody know how i can install tomcat apache and configure it, i need it very urgently guys
[04:42] <goundy> correct drivers? what does this mean?
[04:42] <meisam> )
[04:42] <meisam> :)
[04:42] <sdac221x_> hi do you guys recommend i use ATI open-source driver or fglrx for my ATI X1300 ?
[04:42] <HymnToLife> ntbnnt, it can't, in Ubuntu at least
[04:42] <goundy> so i've installed the ATI propri DRIVERS
[04:42] <soundray> meisam: sudo apt-get install tomcat5
[04:42] <[nvc] lexx> hi all
[04:42] <HymnToLife> lots of things in Ubuntu depend on FF
[04:42] <hexidigital> meisam:  not sure about tomcat, but apache help can be found in #apache
[04:42] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: any ideas?
[04:43] <goundy> HymnToLife, ?
[04:43] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I have to use fglrx for my X1600 mobility, if that helps...
[04:43] <HymnToLife> that's the reason FF 2.0 didn't get backported for Dapper <=
[04:43] <ntbnnt> hymntolife: yea
[04:43] <meisam> soundray  i need 5.5 can i write  sudo apt-get install tomcat5.5 ?
[04:43] <soundray> meisam: yes
[04:43] <ntbnnt> sdac221x__: yea, use fglrx
[04:43] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:43] <soundray> meisam: if you're on edgy, that is
[04:43] <HymnToLife> hossasaur, no, can't help you further, sorry
[04:44] <sdac221x_> dooglus:  i used fglrx but never was able to get beryl working
[04:44] <stuntgp2000> hi everybody :)
[04:44] <goundy> HymnToLife, do you know what I can do to repar this shit ?
[04:44] <hossasaur> HymnToLife: thanks for the previous help
[04:44] <soundray> meisam: consider also the tomcat5.5-admin and tomcat5.5-webapps packages
[04:44] <sdac221x_> beryl would simple change back to normal theme, when i try to apply the beryl theme. so i thought it may be related to graphic drivers
[04:44] <HymnToLife> goundy, what card do you have and what driver are you using for it ?
[04:44] <meisam> soundray it said : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:44] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I had beryl working with it, but it's not worth the effort really.  it's not very stable yet.
[04:44] <wojtek> www
[04:44] <goundy> HymnToLife, ati radeon X86
[04:45] <goundy> drivers: ati proprio. (most recent one)
[04:45] <xstasi> hi
[04:45] <goundy> oups
[04:45] <HymnToLife> don't know much abour Ati cr... stuff (^____^), sorry
[04:45] <goundy> ATI Radeon X700
[04:45] <xstasi> # cryptsetup -v create home /dev/hda3
[04:45] <xstasi> Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and kernel driver
[04:45] <sdac221x_> dooglus: is it not stable because of beryl itself or fglrx
[04:45] <xstasi> is this normal?
[04:45] <soundray> meisam: did it say anything about the package not being available?
[04:45] <xstasi> what does it want?
[04:45] <meisam> soundray on port 8080 it does not show up
[04:45] <ntbnnt> sdac221x__: don't think so...
[04:45] <dooglus> sdac221x_: I don't know.  I've only ever tried it on this one machine.
[04:45] <meisam> no no
[04:45] <goundy> ok HymnToLife thanks
[04:45] <stuntgp2000> does anyone know how can I call RSSOwl from Firefox ?
[04:45] <sdac221x_> oh ok.  alright then thanks
[04:46] <goundy> Anyone know about ATI stuf? >>> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5934/
[04:46] <meisam> soundray the problem is that it does not show up on 8080 port
[04:46] <ntbnnt> did someone say ati>
[04:46] <soundray> meisam: slowly
[04:46] <tdbrown2> how do I do the alien?
[04:46] <ntbnnt> goundy: i'll see what i can do
[04:46] <soundray> meisam: we have to make sure it's installed first. Can you do a 'cd /usr/share/doc/tomcat5.5/'?
[04:46] <goundy> ntbnnt, thank you very much dude
[04:47] <Spokodzieciak> Witam Wszystkich jestem nwy, potrzebuje mp3 karaoke lub cos w tym stylu z piosenkami miosnymi na walentynki ... prosze od odp. bede z 5 min
[04:47] <Spokodzieciak> Dziki ;-)
[04:47] <soundray> !pl
[04:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:48] <applenux> hello
[04:48] <ntbnnt> goundy: what kind of laptop u got...
[04:48] <soundray> meisam: is it installed?
[04:48] <xstasi> ok, found
[04:49] <xstasi> modprobe dm-crypt
[04:49] <xstasi> bye
[04:49] <goundy> ntbnnt, an ACER Aspire 5020
[04:49] <ntbnnt> knew it :)
[04:49] <goundy> ntbnnt, cpu: AMD Turion 64 (but i'm under a 32bit system)
[04:49] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:49] <goundy> ^^
[04:49] <royel_> Vilhelms: has it worked properly in the past, or has it been this way since installing Xubuntu initially?
[04:50] <Solarion> when will the updates to fix module loading be uploaded (feisty)?
[04:50] <Vilhelms> royel_, I just installed xubuntu and its doing this. Gnome worked fine, and it only does it if i run in the xubuntu session
[04:50] <Solarion> it'd be nice to have sound and pcmcia again.
[04:50] <ntbnnt> goundy: dapper or edgy
[04:50] <Vilhelms> royel_, also I'm running in Xgl, I'm not sure if that could be causing the issue but I'm running beryl along with xfce
[04:50] <goundy> ntbnnt, dapper :-]
[04:50] <tjtansey> can anyone help me with how to install applications from source?
[04:50] <ntbnnt> sweet
[04:50] <meisam> soundray i can do that
[04:50] <mackinac> !compile
[04:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:51] <meisam> it is full installed
[04:51] <applenux> hello i need help for my ppc
[04:51] <meisam> soundray it is installed
[04:51] <dooglus> rickympl: you'll probably find that you RAM is only full due to the file cache.
[04:51] <dooglus> rickympl: there's no point using swap for the filecache.
[04:52] <applenux> what is url for flash plugin for Mozilla Browser on Ubuntu PPC ?
[04:52] <dooglus> rickympl: run 'free' in a terminal to see how much memory is really used, and how much is just buffers and cache
[04:52] <soundray> meisam: okay, in that directory, you'll find some docs. Check out README.Debian first.
[04:52] <royel_> Vilhelms: I have no experience with xfce, I thought maybe you had some key stuck on your keyboard, but if it works fine in gnome then that can't be the problem
[04:53] <soundray> meisam: consider also the tomcat5.5-admin and tomcat5.5-webapps packages (sry repeat, not sure if you saw it)
[04:53] <ntbnnt> goundy: im thinking that this should work
[04:53] <ReKlipz> yo, in beryl / compiz, how do i make the windows fold so i can see whuts behind it?
[04:53] <goundy> :/
[04:53] <goundy> ntbnnt, but i don't yet :/
[04:53] <ardchoille> !tomcat
[04:53] <ntbnnt> goundy: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) | sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx | sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <daveyates> maximize the window first ReKlipz
[04:53] <hossasaur> i'm having trouble
[04:53] <ardchoille> What is tomcat?
[04:53] <tjtansey> thanks I'll see if that gets me anywhere
[04:53] <hossasaur> connecting to my wireless network
[04:53] <dooglus> ! tomcat
[04:54] <soundray> !tomcat5.5 | ardchoille
[04:54] <ReKlipz> daveyates, dig it, thx
[04:54] <ubotu> ardchoille: tomcat5.5: Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.5.17-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 340 kB
[04:54] <hossasaur> in gnome, i type in my essid, key, and it keeps saying "disconnected"
[04:54] <ardchoille> soundray: Ah, thanks
[04:54] <ntbnnt> goundy: thats configuration errors for sure, acceleration isn't being happy with your system
[04:54] <goundy> ntbnnt, no :/
[04:54] <daveyates> np ReKlipz
[04:54] <ReKlipz> how to get compiz to autostart?
[04:54] <goundy> ntbnnt, all this is already done :/
[04:54] <ntbnnt> just do the aticonfig --initial command
[04:54] <Pici> !effects
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <soundray> !compiz | ReKlipz
[04:54] <ubotu> ReKlipz: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <ReKlipz> thx
 maximize the window first ReKlipz <== then what?
[04:55] <goundy> ntbnnt, goundy@GLaptop:~$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:55] <goundy> Found fglrx primary device section
[04:55] <goundy> Nothing to do, terminating.
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: eya
[04:55] <goundy> lol
[04:55] <ReKlipz> Lunar_Lamp, then just resize a corner
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay
[04:55] <ntbnnt> goundy: bear with me
[04:55] <royel_> Vilhelms: are you able to use the "right-click" menu?
[04:55] <goundy> ntbnnt, to bear = ??
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, huh? How do you resize a window when it's maximized?
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, ah, ok, I get you, sorry.
[04:56] <sdac221x_> hi when i open some settings screens for some extensions in firefox... i get the setting screen window frame but nothing inside it except white.   any ideas ?
[04:56] <ykrana> nothing comes from the word jolt in white capitals with me n spaz?
[04:56] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay, try forcing it
[04:56] <ykrana> mark try :d
[04:56] <Lunar_Lamp> ReKlipz, it doesn't need to be a corner though - will work on any of the straight edges - I was misinterpreting what you were talking about.
[04:57] <ykrana> reklipz, ah, ok, i think he's swedish chick
[04:57] <ntbnnt> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:57] <ykrana> goundy: okay, try forcing it clean?
[04:57] <armadill0> Hi guys.  Sound isn't recording in Edgy for me.  I can hear my voice in the speakers, I've checked in alsamixer that I'm not muted, but KRec (and other programs) can't "hear" the sound from the mic.  I'm using onboard sound on a VIA 8237.  Does anyone have any idea what to do?
[04:57] <ykrana> eat voice anarky!!!
[04:57] <goundy> ntbnnt, hum I think that acceleration worked with the generic drivers include in the dapper cd installation. How to restaure them?
[04:57] <ykrana> dont ban him stuff hes supposed to include an option to +v
[04:57] <Vilhelms> royel_, I can right-click, and I can use the menu. Right clicking also makes the desktop move
[04:57] <ykrana> so did that with the rest of the recycle bin across the 3d desktop
[04:57] <applenux> what is url for flash plugin for Mozilla Browser on Ubuntu PPC ?
[04:57] <ykrana> like ubuntu computer, can anyone willing to help?
[04:57] <goundy> i'll try the forcing, minute
[04:57] <ntbnnt> goundy: that command i gave you
[04:57] <ykrana> but i'll tell a database server is unfortunately, the similarly named database server and powerful
[04:57] <goundy> goundy@GLaptop:~$ sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:57] <goundy> Uninitialised file found, configuring.
[04:57] <goundy> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <goundy> Saved back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-1
[04:57] <ykrana> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:58] <ykrana> goundy: sudo aticonfig -f --initial
[04:58] <soundray> !ops
[04:58] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:58] <ykrana> its only flat file
[04:58] <mackinac> looks like a bot got in
[04:58] <goundy> ykrana, Done
[04:58] <ykrana> novoca1n is relegated to let/    windows linux
[04:58] <goundy> but it still won't work
[04:58] <DBO> soundray?
[04:58] <ntbnnt> goundy: okay, now you can maybe reboot after that force and go
[04:58] <ykrana> mez, ljl, elkbuntu, imbrandon, dbo, gnomefreak, hobbsee, rob, ompaul, madpilot, burgundavia, seveas, carlk, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or unix
[04:58] <apokryphos> ykrana: what are you doing?
[04:58] <meisam> soundray how can i check if it is configured and set up compeletely?
[04:58] <ykrana> we should port it looks easily portable
[04:58] <goundy> ntbnnt, just reboot X right?
[04:58] <LjL> what is going on here
[04:58] <ntbnnt> yea
[04:58] <goundy> ok brb
[04:58] <ykrana> ykrana, i had this relevant?
[04:58] <royel_> Vilhelms: are you using a virtual desktop, IE: desktop is 1024x768, but virtual makes it 1280x1024, trying to understand how your desktop could move
[04:58] <riotkittie> good question
[04:59] <DBO> soundray?  did you need something?
[04:59] <soundray> meisam: dpkg -l tomcat5.5 should show the package with 'ii' at the beginning of the line
[04:59] <Seveas> soundray, do NOT abuse !ops
[04:59] <soundray> DBO, Seveas: ykrana was spamming
[04:59] <Math^> anyone know how to check your hardware, so you can check wich videocart you have etc?
[04:59] <Seveas> soundray, ah ok, sorry
[04:59] <Vilhelms> royel_, no, all I'm using is beryl... i am on a widescree though so my resolution is 1280x800 I think...
[05:00] <DBO> soundray, ok seems seveas destroyed him
[05:00] <riotkittie> superspamming.
[05:00] <apokryphos> Math^: lspci
[05:00] <goundy> :/
[05:00] <goundy> ntbnnt, none :(
[05:00] <Seveas> soundray, hint !ops | Help ops ykrana is spamming
[05:00] <soundray> Thanks Seveas, DBO
[05:00] <ntbnnt> errr....
[05:00] <Seveas> :)
[05:00] <gili> hello
[05:00] <gili> i need help with media file tagging!!
[05:00] <Math^> thats what I was searching for apokryphos thnx :)
[05:00] <Vilhelms> royel_, I don't remember exactly and if I check desktop preferences it just says "Default" for my resolution, but there is no widescreen resolutions available in the list
[05:00] <goundy> ntbnnt, when I launch tremulous it say: Can't load openGL subsystem
[05:00] <soundray> Seveas: hint taken, thx
[05:01] <meisam> soundray yes it is shown here, it is installed i guess
[05:01] <ntbnnt> goundy: you might just contact ati... report a bug, but i don't know - try a full system reboot first...
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, hey i've an idea
[05:01] <royel_> Vilhelms: I'm sorry, I'm grasping at straws here.. I really don't think I fully understand the problem. :(
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, i think that drivers include into dapper live CD works
[05:01] <soundray> meisam: README.Debian should tell you if you need to do anything in particular to start the service. Also, make sure that apache is configured properly.
[05:01] <goundy> ntbnnt, can I restaure them without reinstalling the system ?
[05:02] <gili> I got a ton of media  (audio files) ogg and mp3 that are not taggesd...what is a good media/jukebox program that i can use to tag files from cddb databases
[05:02] <gili> ?
[05:02] <meisam> soundray apprecitae it dude
[05:02] <soundray> meisam: yw
[05:02] <ntbnnt> goundy: word, you can 'slipstream' them - but you may have to force an install from your cd via apt
[05:02] <LjL> gili, you could tag from the MusicBrainz database as well, or at least consider that possibility. Amarok can use it (though it was broken last time i tried), or... well, let me search
[05:03] <ntbnnt> goundy: if you can do it through, apt, that's ideal
[05:03] <goundy> ntbnnt, it's a bit complicated, i've not understood what u said ^^
[05:03] <Vilhelms> royel_, alright thanks for trying :)
[05:03] <zOap> does anyone know of a batch(or single) wma to mp3 converter?
[05:03] <LjL> gili, QuodLibet can tag based on all of MusicBrainz, CDDB and FreeDB
[05:03] <LjL> gili: you need the quodlibet-plugins package
[05:03] <ntbnnt> goundy: errr... yea, it is - ummm, mount your live cd
[05:03] <gili> LjL quodlibet plugins
[05:04] <gili> ok
[05:04] <gili> what else
[05:04] <gili> and amarok?
[05:04] <goundy> ntbnnt, forget I'll dug out i'm sure there's another solution
[05:04] <goundy> thanks
[05:04] <varkatope> LjL: ffmpeg -i xyz.wma -vn -ab 128 -ar 44100 -acodec mp3 xyz.mp3
[05:04] <goundy> cya ++
[05:04] <LjL> gili: for amarok you just need amarok, but that's a KDE apps, so it'll install a lot of libraries if you have just GNOME
[05:04] <ntbnnt> goundy: yea, that could get nasty...
[05:04] <LjL> varkatope: ?
[05:04] <royel_> Vilhelms: keep asking your original question, maybe someone else will come by an know what to do
[05:04] <ntbnnt> goundy: good luck, but it sounds like you should hit the forums...
[05:05] <varkatope> zOap: ffmpeg -i xyz.wma -vn -ab 128 -ar 44100 -acodec mp3 xyz.mp3
[05:05] <gili> ok so if i dont want amarok installed what program should use?
[05:05] <varkatope> LjL: sry
[05:05] <eXistenZ> LjL, Have you got root enabled?
[05:05] <goundy> ntbnnt, yea ;) thanks dude
[05:05] <LjL> eXistenZ, definitely not
[05:05] <zOap> varkatope, thanks alot:)
[05:05] <ntbnnt> goundy: yea, np :)
[05:06] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix this?
[05:06] <holycow> Vilhelms, #xubuntu
[05:06] <LjL> gili: quodlibet is a possibility, as i said. that's a GNOME program. i see that also easytag (CLI program) has CDDB support
[05:07] <soundray> Vilhelms: are you using the standard xorg X server?
[05:07] <Vilhelms> holycow, I'm asking there but no answer
[05:07] <olsen> what package do you usually install for run 32 bit apps on 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:07] <holycow> Vilhelms, cool
[05:07] <Vilhelms> soundray, I'm running in Xgl and using beryl
[05:07] <LjL> gili: also libtunepimp-bin for scripting mass-taggins using musicbrainz
[05:08] <jussi01> Vilhelms: you could try reinstalling it with: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[05:08] <linux_kid> I recently Installed Firestarter, and nothing will connect to the internet.  now that its gone, same problem.  Windows works fine, sadly.
[05:08] <soundray> Vilhelms: try #ubuntu-effects then
[05:08] <Vilhelms> jussi01, I will try that
[05:08] <olsen> ehm anyone?
[05:08] <soundray> olsen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290785
[05:09] <ElementC> Working on encouraging my local school board to convert to ubuntu. We need to quickly and easily customize the artwork (GDM login screen, background, window borders, controls) any advice?
[05:09] <Trypsin> hi all
[05:09] <soundray> !edubuntu | ElementC
[05:09] <ubotu> ElementC: Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[05:09] <gili> LjL, thanks
[05:09] <ElementC> HTanks.
[05:10] <sdac221x_> i am trying to install some thinkpad software throught synaptic...and it wants to remove "xubuntu-desktop" package in order to install this... is this right ?? should i allow it to go ahead ?
[05:10] <soundray> ElementC: is artwork really the primary consideration?
[05:10] <ElementC> Yep.
[05:10] <ElementC> They're hooked otherwise.
[05:11] <royel_> ElementC: have you looked at gnome-look.org
[05:11] <linux_kid> ElementC, thats great!
[05:11] <ElementC> I have the artwork itself.
[05:11] <ElementC> I just need to package it.
[05:11] <varkatope> anyone here with ubuntu on via cx700 chipset family?
[05:12] <soundray> sdac221x_: xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, containing no program files of its own, so it's okay to remove
[05:12] <jussi01> !anyone | varkatope
[05:12] <ubotu> varkatope: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:12] <innu> hey, what modules needs to be loaded to use SB live 5.1 soundcard
[05:12] <olsen> soundray: linux32 is a wrapper, there was a library that you could install and run 32 bit apps without a wrapper
[05:13] <soundray> innu: emu10k1 is my guess
[05:13] <innu> FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found.
[05:13] <olsen> the library sits on /lib32 it hink
[05:13] <olsen> i think*
[05:13] <soundray> innu: snd-emu10k1
[05:13] <varkatope> how to install ubuntu on via cx700 chipset family?
[05:14] <varkatope> better? ;P
[05:14] <Frogzoo> innu: should be a whole bunch of stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[05:14] <dabaR> How do I make an add with tear-off phone numbers on the bottom?
[05:15] <rojo^> debaR: tried scribus?
[05:15] <soundray> olsen: you can install the 32bit compatibility libraries. There is no single package for them that I'm aware of.
[05:15] <soundray> olsen: the cleaner choice is to setup a 32bit chroot environment
[05:15] <rojo^> err, dabaR: tried scribus?
[05:15] <soundray> !chroot | olsen
[05:15] <dabaR> I will
[05:15] <ubotu> olsen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:16] <soundray> varkatope: it's compatible with i386, so the procedure is the same as for those chips.
[05:16] <Frogzoo> dabaR: gimp
[05:16] <rojo^> I dunno whether you can rotate text with it or not.  You might just have to use gimp
[05:16] <dabaR> Frogzoo: yes, that is a cool name, what about it?
[05:16] <dabaR> Frogzoo: in other words, how?
[05:17] <varkatope> soundray: it should have been more precise, as im interested in the special features of that chipset like mpeg 2/4 and wma acceleration
[05:17] <goundy> ntbnnt,
[05:17] <goundy> ntbnnt, ntbnnt
[05:17] <goundy> all work now
[05:17] <ntbnnt> yea
[05:17] <ntbnnt> what did it?
[05:17] <goundy> i've reinstalled drivers with apt-get :/
[05:18] <soundray> varkatope: you asked about the installation procedure. It is the same as for i386 chips
[05:18] <innu> Frogzoo, hmm.. there is emu10k1 modules. If i use lspci, it shows card even if its not loaded?
[05:18] <cout> is there a frontend for the network manager that doesn't require gnome or kde?
[05:18] <ntbnnt> sweet, it was configuration, goundy
[05:18] <goundy> yea
[05:18] <goundy> big thanks guys
[05:18] <armadill0> Here's a more general question:  My sound recording doesn't work.  I've posted on the ubuntu forums and asked here and have basically been ignored.  I know other people can't record audio and it is reaching the point where I have to start looking at other distros or going back to windows.  What more should I do to help resolve this issue?  Thanks.
[05:18] <soundray> varkatope: as for the special features, check http://www.via.com.tw for drivers first.
[05:19] <Chadarius> armadill0: can you send me your forum post link? I'd like to take a look and see if I can help you
[05:20] <ntbnnt> :)
[05:20] <varkatope> soundray: there is a very short howto at via but it is for fedore core 5
[05:20] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Thanks :)  its :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331629
[05:20] <soundray> varkatope: also look at this page http://lwn.net/Articles/99464/ ; especially the comments at the bottom
[05:20] <innu> Are cards shown in lspci even if theryre modules are not loaded?
[05:20] <winston> !backup
[05:21] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[05:21] <soundray> varkatope: VIA can't be said to be among the few manufacturers who have "got" open source yet.
[05:22] <varkatope> <- reading
[05:23] <kditty> i can not edit the file /home/kditty/hellanzb-0.9/etc/hellanzb.conf, everytime i try sudo gedit /home/kditty/hellanzb-0.9/etc/hellanzb.conf nothing happens but a blinking cursor. can someone tell me why its doing this?
[05:24] <soundray> kditty: try gksudo instead
[05:24] <kditty> ok, soundray, that gave me a screebn but its locked up
[05:25] <kditty> (gedit:5360): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:25] <kditty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:25] <kditty> thats what it printed soundray
[05:25] <[OG] 6ton> does ubunto support wireless net?
[05:25] <[OG] 6ton> have a asus wlan netcard
[05:26] <kditty> is there a way i could just edit the file in root, through nautilus?
[05:26] <ardchoille> !gksudo | kditty
[05:26] <ubotu> kditty: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[05:26] <Frogzoo> innu: try 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 ; alsamixer'
[05:27] <ardchoille> kditty: You can run nautilus as root with: gksudo nautilus
[05:28] <kditty> ardchoille, i tried gksudo nautilus and it says this "(nautilus:5540): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[05:28] <kditty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[05:28] <kditty> "
[05:28] <mike_> does anyone know why the links at the ubuntu website are soooo slow to download ubuntu??
[05:29] <ardchoille> kditty: I get that all the time and I was told to ignore it.
[05:29] <kditty> i would, except nothing came up
[05:29] <erUSUL> mike_: use bittorrent it is faster
[05:30] <mike_> ive tried bittorrent and seem to get at best about 200kbps is that normal ??
[05:30] <babo> guys, I want to dual-boot with windows. So should I just choose 'install on the largest continuous free space area' ? .. or should  I edit the partition manually ?
[05:30] <mike_> edit partition manually
[05:31] <HymnToLife> babo, it depends on how your partitions are set up currently
[05:31] <tjtansey> ubotu: thanks it worked, and on top of it I found pages for other stuff I couldn't figure out either
[05:31] <babo> mike_: right, what specifically should I do then ?
[05:31] <royel_> babo: if your not familiar with partition tables, you might want to try the first option if you have free space available.
[05:31] <HymnToLife> if you have some _free_ space, you can go witgh "use the larges continuous free space"
[05:31] <babo> roye1_: the first option is to erase the disk entirely ...
[05:32] <HymnToLife> apokryphos, what's that for ?
[05:32] <royel_> babo: the first option you mentioned, which is use largest free space
[05:32] <Pici> !modes
[05:32] <ubotu> There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:32] <HymnToLife> !botsnack
[05:32] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:32] <Frogzoo> babo: you want to have partitions for - doze gigs| / 10gig|swap 1g|/home gigs   - & /var also if you plan a web/sql server
[05:32] <babo> roye1_: ahh ... OK. What would be the advantages of partitioning myself ?
[05:33] <royel_> babo: normally theres not much difference, but manually gives you the ability to setup the partitions specifically the way you want.
[05:33] <patrick__> hey i can't log in, i restarted my comouter, and when i put in my credentials it logs in and then comes back to the log in screen...ive tried all the options to login and none will work, any ideas?
[05:34] <babo> Frogzoo: /var, /home/, /swap are the essential ones ... what else do I need ?
[05:34] <[OG] 6ton> does ubunto support wireless net?
[05:34] <kditty> ardchoille, thanks, it opened nautilus root but a little while later ;x
[05:34] <[OG] 6ton> have a asus wlan netcard
[05:34] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to specify which version of glibc to use when compiling? (say, using the `make` command?)
[05:34] <sdac221x_> hi im trying to install "configure-thinkpad" but its not in repos.   Is it safe to download and install a Red Hat/Fedora RPM or Mandrake RPM since i couldnt get the source to install.
[05:34] <RememberPOL> Like say I have 2.4 and 2.3.2 installed... how can I specify which is used?
[05:34] <Drel3> how can i set in midnight commander to open my mp3 files in xmms not in rhythmbox, beacuse he always open in rhythmbox!!Nautilus is just fine he open mp3 in xmms
[05:34] <patrick__> i used sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(usname -r)
[05:34] <babo> will grub find the windows install and offer me a boot choice ? ... it says that grub will put ubuntu at hd0
[05:35] <royel_> babo: /swap / are the only essential ones.. it's common to use /boot / an swap though
[05:35] <HymnToLife> royel, /swap is incorrect
[05:35] <HymnToLife> the swap space is not mounted
[05:36] <bauer78> i am having problems installing java in mozilla, i think its creating the sym link to it can anyone assist me
[05:36] <bauer78> in installed in /usr/java
[05:36] <erUSUL> !java
[05:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:36] <Frogzoo> babo: / for root (10-15gig)+ swap (1g) + /var (2+gigs) + /home (gigs) + windows (gigs)
[05:37] <HymnToLife> 2 gigs for /var .
[05:37] <HymnToLife> ?
[05:37] <incorrect> swap is not me!!!
[05:37] <royel_> HymnToLife: simply mocking what they typed so he would understand the reference easier
[05:37] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: apt cache + apache/sql db
[05:37] <RememberPOL> ./tremded.svn: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./tremded.svn)
[05:37] <HymnToLife> oh yeah, forgot about the apt cache
[05:37] <erUSUL> bauer78: 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[05:37] <babo> right, I'll just let the default install handle the partition, it's only a desktop and really I'm not fussy. Just as long as grub will respect the windows partition and automatically offer me a choice on boot up ...
[05:38] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: you only do it once
[05:38] <patrick__> any ideas?
[05:38] <sdac221x_> !rpm
[05:38] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:38] <guillem101> HymnToLife, var is the variable space... the used  space depends on if he is runing services, spools printers, ... and remember packages downloaded by synaptic go there as well... so if you don't clean them with certain periodicity you'll need some space...
[05:39] <minimec> Hi. I have a strange problem. I installed ubuntu edgy on a PIII 400/100 with 383MB RAM. Then I found a PIII 500/100 for about 5 EURO and replaced it (also changed the DIP Settings on th mainboard). Now I cannot load ubuntu, I can't even start the live Disk.... But, and this dirves me crazy, I can start win98 on that same machine with this 500/100 CPU. I am a little bit lost here...
[05:39] <bauer78> erUSUL: thanks I will try that
[05:39] <dabaR> What I did to make that ad, was make a image file of the text, then pasted in many times into my openoffice document.
[05:39] <administrator> pippo
[05:39] <dabaR> Frogzoo: and I did it with GIMP!
[05:39] <Frogzoo> dabaR: oh very good
[05:39] <dabaR> :)
 I cannot even imagine a possible reason for that :((
[05:40] <royel_> minimec: put the 400/100 cpu back in, the lil bit of gain with the 500 probably isn't worth the trouble now is it :)
[05:41] <minimec> guillem101: Man ;) Neither can I. It is not the first time I change some CPU. This never happened to me ;)
[05:41] <administrator> Hi all, I have a problem with a raid1 created with mdadm. I can't assign permission 777 to raid mounted.
[05:41] <guillem101> minimec, but you could start the liveCD with the 400MHz CPU?
[05:42] <Juhaz> sure
[05:42] <catlix> Hello
[05:42] <minimec> royel_: This is, what I will do probably, but it would be interesting to know, why the live disk is not starting with a working CPU. It blocks...
[05:42] <royel_> minimec: what does it do exactly with the 500 when you try an load/start ubuntu?
[05:43] <minimec> guillem101: Yeah. I installed edgy with the live disk ;)
[05:43] <Hoosteen> hiya peeps
[05:43] <Frogzoo> minimec: tried acpi=off ?
[05:43] <catlix> jest ktos z Polski??
[05:43] <minimec> royel_: It hangs after a while.
[05:43] <Hoosteen> ok...i want to listen to some streaming audio..i'm running dapper and i assume i need mplayer...is it better to install via compile or to download a package..when i search in synaptics, i don't see anything....
[05:44] <minimec> Frogzoo: You mean in the BIOS or as grub boot option?
[05:44] <Frogzoo> minimec: grub option to kernel
[05:44] <noodles12> in gedit, is there a way to allow ctrl+tab to cycle through the different tabs in gedit?
[05:44] <catlix> How install drivers for ATI??
[05:44] <royel_> Hoosteen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !ati | catlix
[05:44] <ubotu> catlix: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <minimec> Frogzoo: Never had to do that. What would be the command for that?
[05:44] <catlix> thanks
[05:45] <guillem101> minimec, and what happens now? kernel panic or what??
[05:45] <Drel3> how can i set in midnight commander to open my mp3 files in xmms not in rhythmbox, beacuse he always open in rhythmbox!!Nautilus is just fine he open mp3 in xmms
[05:45] <catlix> jest jakis Polak??
[05:45] <Frogzoo> minimec: f6 to open grub prompt - find the root = line; hit 'e' to edit & append 'acpi=off' - hit return to exit editor & 'b' to boot
[05:45] <minimec> guillem101: It get a complete freeze.
[05:45] <Pici> !pl | catlix
[05:45] <ubotu> catlix: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:46] <minimec> Frogzoo: THX. I will try that... Stay tuned for feedback ;)
[05:46] <royel_> minimec: gl
[05:46] <Hoosteen> meant to say i was running edgy..but don't think it matters..hehe...thanks for the link royel_
[05:46] <guillem101> minimec, perhaps you could start without the quiet and without the splash options, so you at least see where it freezes
[05:46] <royel_> Hoosteen: yw
[05:47] <guillem101> minimec, you can edit the options at the grub menu
[05:47] <patrick__> how do you edit files when you log in just from terminal
[05:48] <patrick__> not gedit but what?
[05:48] <royel_> patrick__: nano
[05:48] <Frogzoo> patrick__: vi, or install emacs
[05:48] <royel_> patrick__: or those
[05:48] <patrick__> 0okay thanks
[05:49] <webby> Hello
[05:50] <RememberPOL> hi
[05:51] <patrick__> how do you delete files in terminal?
[05:52] <royel_> patrick__: rm
[05:52] <bauer78> rm and filename
[05:52] <Dave> hey, does anyone know a irc for computer support (not related to ubuntu but general computing, especially hardware)?
[05:53] <patrick__> yeah thanks
[05:53] <webby> Hi all. I have a problem with RAID1 created by MDADM. I ceate the array, mounted in /mnt/RAID...all ok. When I try to write in the /mnt/RAID as a normal user appear a message permission denied. I already set chmod 777 in /mnt and /mnt/RAID. HELP PLEASE!
[05:53] <patrick__> my disk says its full but it wasnt when i logged off last time, and now i cant log in
[05:53] <patrick__> so im trying to delte stuff and see if i can log in and then fix the graphics card
[05:55] <minimec> Frogzoo: It's a pain because 'grub' uses the us key settings on my swiss keyboard ...
[05:55] <Frogzoo> patrick__: rm ~/.thumbnails/large/* ; sudo apt-get clean
[05:55] <Frogzoo> minimec: urgl
[05:56] <patrick__> whats that do Frogzoo?
[05:57] <Frogzoo> patrick__: should clean out some space to get you going - removes gnome thumbnails & the apt cache
[05:57] <patrick__> ah cool
[05:58] <minimec> what do I have to add exaclty on the command line? append "acpi=off"?
[05:58] <minimec> Frogzoo: what do I have to add exaclty on the command line? append "acpi=off"?
[05:58] <adrian_h> Help! My keyboard stopped working. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. All of a sudden my keyboard is no longer responsive, although my mouse still works.
[05:58] <Frogzoo> minimec: without the quotes
[05:59] <Frogzoo> adrian_h: check cable
[05:59] <royel> adrian_h: is it plugged in ?
[05:59] <Hoosteen> thanks royel_, worked like a champ
[05:59] <minimec> Frogzoo: so append acpi=off or just acpi=off
[05:59] <royel> Hoosteen: great, yw :)
[05:59] <adrian_h> It's a laptop keyboard. It works during the boot menu and when I log into KDE, but after that it doesn't work.
[05:59] <Frogzoo> minimec: acpi=off
[05:59] <patrick__> how do i firgure out how much space is on the disc, via terminal
[05:59] <Frogzoo> no append
[06:00] <Frogzoo> patrick__: df -k .
[06:00] <adrian_h> patrick__: df -h
[06:00] <patrick__> i just did the apt-get clean, and it says i still have 100% full disck
[06:00] <patrick__> and i know i didnt before
[06:01] <Dave> can anyone help me with a trying to fit a second hard drive, i am having some problems with my pc picking  it up?
[06:01] <cbx33> ok i have network-manager but it's just lost all my network interfaces
[06:01] <royel> adrian_h: hit it with a hammer?
[06:01] <cbx33> what's happened?
[06:01] <ardchoille> royel: hahaha
[06:02] <lordkeiden> how do i hide a partition at boot time?
[06:02] <minimec> Frogzoo: doesn't seem to work, but I am not sure if I typed it right. I gonna boot with the 400 CPU and add acpi of to the grub.conf. THX for your help anyway.
[06:02] <royel> adrian_h: sorry, but honestly no clue here :(
[06:03] <lordkeiden> i have done it with sbm in the past. any problems with using it with ubuntu?
[06:03] <mettao87> hi
[06:03] <lordkeiden> hid a partition that is.
[06:03] <mettao87> i'm trying to setup my wifi msi pc54g3card.
[06:04] <mettao87> how can i install ralink t61 driver=
[06:04] <mettao87> ?
[06:04] <mettao87> i'm using a wiki
[06:04] <Norf-ubu> !wireless
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:04] <mettao87> but i don't know what i've to do at (d) Edit the /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat as a binary file. The recommended way of doing this is:
[06:06] <adrian_h> Hmm, on further investigation, the keyboard works, but only if I hold a key down for about two seconds. Any ideas?
[06:07] <oscuro> hey guys, I can't play emmbeded videos into pages.
[06:07] <adrian_h> I tried looking at the KDE keyboard settings, but the delay setting is the same as it's always been.
[06:07] <oscuro> and I already installed a mozzilla plug-in for that.
[06:07] <oscuro> what can I be doing wrong?
[06:08] <lightseed> oscuro: not sure..what type of vids? are you 64bit?
[06:08] <Ducimus> Ok, so i go and set up this computer in my office with Ubuntu and dedicate it as a server. set the group permissions, set all the people up as group members. that all worked fine but, the permissions aren't staing set. people will copy files onto the server and they become read-only for other users, so i have to go and re-apply all the permissions. any clue how to stop this from happening?
[06:08] <_Ace2016_> oscuro: are you using firefox and the mplayer plugin?
[06:08] <oscuro> yes sir.
[06:08] <oscuro> I can play the ones in youtube for example.
[06:08] <lightseed> i have a problem with the mplayer plugin not working also...using the 32 browser
[06:08] <oscuro> but I can't watch some others.
[06:09] <oscuro> I think they're for online channels.
[06:09] <rojo^> Ducimus: easiest thing might be just to dedicate a fat32 partition for public storage.  fat32 doesn't support permissions anyway.  Just a thought.
[06:09] <lightseed> ya i have the same prob...flash vids work...mplayer vids dont
[06:09] <oscuro> same with radion onlin.e
[06:09] <oscuro> :(
[06:09] <unop> Ducimus,  when a user creates a file, do the permissions on the file have writability for that user's group?
[06:10] <Ducimus> no
[06:11] <Ducimus> all the other machines in the network are windows based and are running through samba
[06:11] <Jarlaxe> Hi all
[06:12] <adrian_h> Figured out my keyboard problem -- I had somehow activated "Slow keys," which evidently is an accessibility feature.
[06:12] <erUSUL> Ducimus: maybe the umask's of the users are not apropiate?
[06:12] <unop> Ducimus,  well, if the group has no writability, then how do you expect members of the group to be able to write to it? :)
[06:12] <rojo^> Ducimus: unop has a point.  there's a way to set the permissions mask in smb.conf for that share.  "create mode = 0766" in your [sharename]  declaration section I believe.
[06:13] <rojo^> Ducimus: then sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart whenever you change smb.conf
[06:13] <unop> rojo^,  is "create mode" a mask directive or a permissions directive?? because a mask of that would give the file 011 which is definitely not good?
[06:14] <Vilhelms> Is Shfit+Backspace bound to anything by default? For some reason every time I prase shift+backspace it shuts down the X server and then I can't do anything but hard restart the computer.
[06:15] <Pici> Vilhelms: it restarts the x server
[06:15] <Frogzoo> minimec: acpi=off
[06:15] <rojo^> unop: wouldn't that give the files a mask of rwxrw-rw- ?
[06:15] <Vilhelms> Pici, Wouldn't restart imply that it starts up again? Its not starting up again. I know ctrl+alt+backspace does that but shift+backspace just shuts it down
[06:17] <unop> rojo^, i'm not sure, it depends if that directive is a mask for permissions or not? because setting umask 0766 would get files  created as 011 (------x--x)
[06:17] <sacater> when i log in a get a warning about not having ownership of .dmrc or something, how do i fix this
[06:17] <unop> rojo^,  i am not sure what that directive does, which is why i asked you :)
[06:18] <sacater> when i log in a get a warning about not having ownership of .dmrc or something, how do i fix this, also my fonts and font sizes are weird
[06:18] <soundray> sudo chown sacater.sacater /home/sacater/.dmrc ; sudo chmod 600 /home/sacater/.dmrc # substitute sacater with your real login name
[06:18] <daviey> Is there a 'find' that will look in the contents of a plain text file?
[06:18] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:18] <sacater> k
[06:18] <soundray> daviey: yes, it's called grep
[06:18] <Jersey> Hi there
[06:18] <Ducimus> can i paste multiple lines in here?
[06:18] <soundray> !cli | daviey
[06:18] <ubotu> daviey: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:18] <soundray> Ducimus: no
[06:18] <Pici> daviey: grep
[06:19] <Ducimus> k
[06:19] <soundray> !pastebin | Ducimus
[06:19] <ubotu> Ducimus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:19] <rojo^> unop: I could be mistaken.  It could just be create mode = 766.  file masks have always been somewhat hazy to me.
[06:19] <Jersey> Can anybody help me with my ATI radeon X1300 card configuration?
[06:19] <daviey> soundray, i know what the console is,  I wasn't aware grep would look in the contents of multiple files.  I always use it to | contents into it
[06:19] <sacater> soundray: that command you gave me, is it meant to go in the terminal altogether?
[06:19] <unop> rojo^,  well, let's find out then for sure (samba's always been hazy for me :) )
[06:19] <rojo^> unop: I'm not sure exactly how that directive works.  I'm sure I just found it on a wiki or discussion board one day and put it into my smb.conf
[06:19] <twa1296> hi i just installed a radeon x1550 and all is fine other than games not running fullscreen anymore, any ideas?
[06:20] <soundray> daviey: grep searchpattern /path/to/dir/*.txt
[06:20] <soundray> sacater: yes
[06:20] <Chamuco> Jersey:  I have an ati  x300 I know some stuff
[06:20] <rojo^> then things just started working
[06:20] <daviey> soundray, thanks
[06:21] <Chamuco> anyone has a list of sources?
[06:21] <Jersey> I've tried all tutorials and nothing workd
[06:21] <Jersey> works
[06:21] <soundray> !easysource | Chamuco
[06:21] <ubotu> Chamuco: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:21] <daviey> soundray, thats not working, but i'll have a look in man
[06:21] <Chamuco> Jersey: whats the problem?
[06:21] <Ducimus> ok so i pasted itno the pastebin a clipping outta my smb.conf file.
[06:21] <Ducimus> is that where i'd put that mask?
[06:21] <sacater> now when i log in it says that .dmrc is being ignored, and that i must have read write permissions to my home folder and not let anyone else have access..... what is going on?
[06:21] <soundray> Ducimus: you'd have to give us the URL
[06:21] <nxtun> test
[06:22] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:22] <Ducimus> Sorry - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5945/
[06:22] <Chadarius> armadill0: Hey have you tried following this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=Creative+Labs+SB+Live%21+EMU10k1+%28rev+03%29
[06:22] <Vilhelms> How can I disable the shift+backspace keyword from restarting the X server?
[06:22] <unop> rojo^,  Ducimus - http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/AccessControls.html#id346485
[06:22] <soundray> sacater: you must have made a mistake as you copied my line of commands
[06:22] <sacater> now when i log in it says that .dmrc is being ignored, and that i must have read write permissions to my home folder and not let anyone else have access..... what is going on?
[06:22] <rojo^> unop, Ducimus: http://k12linux.org/netadmin/samba.html
[06:22] <sacater> well what was meant to happen soundray
[06:23] <royel> Vilhelms: did you resolve your other problem?
[06:23] <soundray> sacater: it was meant to set the proper permissions on your .dmrc. I suspect you've inserted inappropriate spaces
[06:23] <babo_> right, back again ...
[06:23] <Jersey> When I change my xorg.Conf file to radeon or ati (instead of vesa) my screen looks blank
[06:24] <rojo^> unop: my google is superior.  But yours is formidable.
[06:24] <sacater> soundray: is the # part of the command
[06:24] <Ducimus> lol
[06:24] <Jersey> I have to change to vesa again to see something
[06:24] <unop> rojo^,  does you google happen to be http://google.com/linux ?
[06:24] <Jersey> Sorry for my bad english, I'm spanish
[06:24] <Darknesss> is there a gui application for setting up a wifi ad-hoc network?
[06:24] <Chamuco> Jersey: you have a new install
[06:24] <armadill0> Chadarius: Thanks for checking back, yeah I took over it.  It seems to be focused on audio out issues, which I haven't had any problems with.  I can look over it again, maybe there is something useful for my problem.
[06:24] <Chamuco> what are u using?
[06:24] <Darknesss> I found a few apps but they are only used to connect to a network
[06:24] <Jersey> more or less
[06:25] <soundray> sacater: no, it's a comment. Entering it with the # won't make a difference
[06:25] <rojo^> unop: nope, it's a firefox quicksearch that searches www.google.com
[06:25] <Jersey> I have Trevinho's repository list installed
[06:25] <Zaggynl> !hostap
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <soundray> sacater: is your login name 'sacater'?
[06:25] <unop> rojo^,  ahh, then it can't be superior when it comes to searching linux :d
[06:25] <Chamuco> no what U have edgy breezy ...?
[06:25] <Chadarius> armadill0: You might want to look at compiling from source... I'm looking up support for your specific card on the alsa sight right now
[06:25] <Jersey> 6.10 edgy
[06:26] <KarlosII> cafuego , are you around?
[06:26] <babo_> right, can anyone help me with my partition problem ?
[06:26] <Vilhelms> royel, Sorry, I hit Shift+Backspace again... Yeah, I restarted and it worked fine
[06:26] <Jersey> I run Sabayon Live CD to test it (because it supports 3D) and screen blank
[06:26] <Vilhelms> I just need to know how to disable shift+backspace
[06:26] <Vilhelms> Before I hit it again by mistake
[06:26] <KarlosII> hi Vilhelms
[06:27] <soundray> babo_: no, not unless you give some detail
[06:27] <Juhaz> Vilhelms, man xorg.conf, search for "zap"
[06:27] <Chamuco> ok then try this go to synaptic on the search type fglrx
[06:27] <Vilhelms> KarlosII, Heyyy, did you get your Gallery thing working last night? Sorry about that, my Internet was acting up yesterday
[06:27] <Jersey> I've just done
[06:27] <LMJ> Hello the chan
[06:27] <KarlosII> not yet
[06:27] <Pici> !hi
[06:27] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:27] <Chamuco> what packages are listed 7 which are saelected?
[06:28] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Ok, that may be the way to do.  Generally I hesitate to diverge from the repository/ package manager binaries to keep my system "normal", but compiling is worth checking out for sure, if it looks like thats an issue.
[06:28] <Chadarius> armadill0: It really looks to me that the drivers aren't loaded properly or something
[06:28] <LMJ> I would like to recompile a working package on my ubuntu 6.10 for debugging purpose,  I need a tutorial/advices to show me the way to get the source, get dependancies & compile a package on Ubuntu, anyone could help ?
[06:28] <Chamuco> also did you download and try to install the propietary ati drivers
[06:29] <Jersey> fglrx-control, fglrx-kernel-source, linux-restricted-modules..., xorg-driver-fglrx, xserve-xorg-video-ati
[06:29] <Jersey> yes, I did and nothing works
[06:29] <Chadarius> armadill0: The cat /proc/asound/cards didn't output anything on your aadebug
[06:29] <armadill0> Chadarius: That may be the case.  Maybe there is a kernel module that isn't being loaded...  Its so strange because I can hear my voice in the speakers, so I know the audio is getting "in" somewhere...
[06:29] <Norf-ubu> hi - wireless problems - lspci shows I have a Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) and iwconfig says thats its "mounted" as eth1 - yet i cannot connect or see any wireless networks out there with "wireless assistant" - any clues or pointers ?
[06:29] <bauer78> jersey
[06:29] <Ducimus> ok, thanks, i'll give that a try. i may be back if i've completely wrecked things. :)
[06:29] <Jersey> teel me
[06:29] <Chamuco> Jersey: which ones are installed?
[06:29] <Jersey> bauer
[06:29] <Jersey> these ones
[06:29] <bauer78> did you run the ati installer from the ati website?
[06:29] <Jersey> that I told you
[06:30] <bauer78> I wasnt here
[06:30] <Chamuco> the installer doesn't work
[06:30] <Jersey> yes, bauer78
[06:30] <bauer78> they type ati --intial
[06:30] <Chamuco> I've tried
[06:30] <bauer78> ati --initial
[06:30] <Chadarius> armadill0: Can you do me a favor and run that command again just to see what it sends back? cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:30] <armadill0> Chadarius: Ok, I just cat'd that file... it output'd ok.
[06:30] <bauer78> then click ctl alt backspace
[06:30] <Chamuco> no the open source ones work no problem
[06:30] <bauer78> this resolved my issue 20 minutes ago
[06:30] <Chadarius> armadill0: What did it say?
[06:30] <Jersey> sudo aticonfig --initial
[06:30] <Jersey> I did
[06:30] <bauer78> ati radeon 9700
[06:30] <sacater> i now have the full error report when i log in.............    Users $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. this prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. Users $home directory must be owned by user and not writeable by other users
[06:30] <armadill0> Chadarius: There are two entries, one is my Hauppage card, the other is my VIA8237
[06:31] <Markon> ragazzi
[06:31] <soundray> LMJ: check out http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:31] <Markon> hei..
[06:31] <smartman> hi guys i want to convert ubuntu 6.10 to router
[06:31] <Markon> where is italian channel?
[06:31] <Jersey> My ati radeon X1300 is special... hahahaa
[06:31] <bauer78> are you typing that in the terminal window?
[06:31] <LMJ> ok, let me see soundray
[06:31] <Chadarius> armadill0: can you also do a cat /proc/asound/version for me?
[06:31] <Jersey> yes
[06:31] <armadill0> Chadarius: I just sent it to you in a tell
[06:31] <Chadarius> thx
[06:31] <rojo^> anyone running two nvidia cards SLI?  Whenever I try enabling SLI (Option "SLI" "Auto" in Section "Device"), X freezes the console and never launches; can't ctrl-alt-F[1-6] .  Anyone else encounter this?
[06:31] <soundray> sacater: okay, I gave you a command to set it to 600 because that is how it is set up here. Try this one instead:
[06:32] <Jersey> I've read more than 5 tutorials and nothing works... I'm going crazy
[06:32] <soundray> sudo chmod 644 /home/sacater/.dmrc
[06:32] <Chadarius> armadill0: But you have a Soundblaster Live right?
[06:32] <Jersey> propietary, fglrx, ati, radeon... only vesa works
[06:32] <sacater> soundray: now do i try logging in again
[06:33] <armadill0> Chadarius:  I don't think so, the soundcard is build into the mobo.  I don't recall it being a soundblaster live.
[06:33] <Markon> hei..can you help me? i cannot enter in the italian forum...is it a my problem?
[06:33] <Chamuco> IMHO well my card is working is a x300 essentially what I did was on a clean install, opened synaptic put fglrx on the search box selected everything except the devel files then reboot did aticonfig initial etc, and now I have a dual display horizontal desktop with 3d accel, although for the 3d you need to add a line on xorg.conf
[06:33] <unop> !it
[06:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:33] <armadill0> Chadarius:  I just thought it was a generic VIA sound some-thing-or-another...
[06:33] <Norf-ubu> i really need help with wireless networking please!
[06:33] <Chamuco> Jersey:  brb
[06:33] <jenda> How come xsane scans the preview in higher quality than the actual scan?
[06:33] <Chadarius> armadill0: LOL nevermind... I was reading the wrong output in teh post for a second
[06:33] <unop> Markon,  whats the URL?
[06:33] <Jersey> ok Chamuco, thanx
[06:33] <jenda> How can I fix that?
[06:33] <soundray> Markon: it must be. "/join #ubuntu-it" works all right here.
[06:34] <Jersey> I'll try again
[06:34] <Jersey> Is there any issue using my ATI card with an AMD X2 4600?
[06:34] <unop> soundray,  he did mention "forum" ( i was caught out by that too :) )
[06:34] <sacater> soundray: it still gives the same error message, could it be another file or folder within my home directory thats doing it
[06:34] <armadill0> Chadarius:  hehe ok, "something-or-another" isn't exactly a product line... Crazy thing is, it used to work under breezy without issues.
[06:35] <soundray> sacater: do a 'ls -ld /home/sacater' please. The beginning of the line should read 'drwxr-xr-x'
[06:35] <bauer78> Norf-ubu: what is your issue
[06:36] <soundray> unop: it wouldn't have been the first time for someone to call a channel 'forum'.
[06:36] <Ajedrez> Hi!
[06:36] <sacater> soundray: WE HAVE THE STICKY LITTLE **** drwxrwxr-x
[06:36] <sacater> soundray: how do i change it to the version you gave me
[06:36] <melodos> hi everyone
[06:36] <Ajedrez> a Good List of Programs that work fine with wine? Please
[06:36] <Ajedrez> :)
[06:36] <melodos> i was wondering
[06:37] <hoagie> hello
[06:37] <melodos> is it easy to use ubuntu?
[06:37] <babo_> I want to dualboot ubuntu with an existing windows install. I've repartitioned the drives. It's asking me where it should mount the windows partitions. It suggests /media/sda1
[06:37] <soundray> sacater: what was that?
[06:37] <hoagie> yes melodos
[06:37] <melodos> easier than debian?
[06:37] <hoagie> yes
[06:37] <hoagie> although it depends on what you mean by ease
[06:37] <melodos> i was wondering if i can have xgl and compiz on ubuntu
[06:37] <keyrnerl> hola
[06:37] <sacater> soundray: drwxrwxr-x  >>>>>> MY HOME                  drwxr-xr-x  >>>>>>>> your version
[06:38] <hoagie> yes you can melodos
[06:38] <sacater> soundray: mine is different
[06:38] <erUSUL> !es | keyrnerl
[06:38] <ubotu> keyrnerl: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:38] <smartman> hi guys i want to make arouter
[06:38] <saray> hola
[06:38] <soundray> sacater: try 'chown 755 /home/sacater'
[06:38] <erUSUL> !es | saray
[06:38] <ubotu> saray: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:38] <sacater> soundray: okay if ur sure
[06:38] <Ajedrez> Hola keyrnerl
[06:39] <soundray> sacater: sure it's fine -- I don't expect it to make a difference, though.
[06:39] <smartman> !router
[06:39] <sacater> soundray: sacater@neo:~$ chown 755 /home/sacater
[06:39] <sacater> chown: changing ownership of `/home/sacater': Operation not permitted
[06:39] <sacater> sacater@neo:~$
[06:39] <keyrnerl> whois
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Norf-ubu> hi bauer78 - i have a belkin wireless card - lspi shows it as a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 - and iwconfig says that its "mounted" as eth1 - yet its dead in the water.,.. wireless assistant says there is nothing out there and manually configing it with networking doesn't seem to activate it (ie i cant see it on my windows box as an available ssid) - fairly newb here so help appreciated
[06:39] <babo_> there isn't one person on #ubuntu who's willing to help me do a dual-boot install ?
[06:39] <smartman> !ip_tabel
[06:39] <soundray> sacater: sorry! 'chmod 755 /home/sacater'
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip_tabel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <sacater> soundray: bbiab
[06:40] <soundray> Dang, I hate it when that happens
[06:41] <sacater> soundray: THANK YOU SO MUCH IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, THE REASON I WAS WORRIED IS BECUASE HOME FOLDER PERMISSIONS WERE THE DOOM OF MY LAST UBUNTU BUILD
[06:41] <Chadarius> armadill0: Have you tried looked to see if your user ID is a member of the audio group?
[06:41] <soundray> sacater: uhoh, you'll get told off for shouting now ;)
[06:41] <armadill0> Chadarius:  Yeah, I am a member of that group.
[06:41] <soundray> sacater: anyway, I'm glad it worked.
[06:41] <hoagie> hehe
[06:41] <jussi01> !caps | sacater
[06:41] <ubotu> sacater: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:41] <sacater> soundray: i dont care :P
[06:41] <royel> sacater: quit screaming!! :)
[06:41] <Crescendo__> Why is Gaim being a douche recently?
[06:42] <sacater> soundray: thanks again
[06:42] <soundray> sacater: :)
[06:42] <sacater> i scream when im happy :D
[06:42] <saray> cui e cui none sta e anone
[06:42] <royel> sacater: made my eyes bleed a lil
[06:42] <armadill0> Chadarius: So strange :/
[06:43] <Norf-ubu> babo_:  for dual booting - assuming you have windows installed already - see http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/Installing_Ubuntu_with_Windows_Dual-Boot
[06:44] <Norf-ubu> bauer78:  any clues or ideas ?
[06:44] <will_> ciao
[06:45] <will_> a tutti
[06:45] <Chadarius> armadill0: Can you send me the output from cat /proc/asound/devices?
[06:45] <soundray> sacater: you can easily make dangerous mistakes with chmod and chown, but generally only if you use the '-R' option
[06:45] <will_> hi
[06:45] <will_>  well i have a problem
[06:45] <will_> in installing
[06:45] <will_> beryl
[06:45] <soundray> !enter | will_
[06:45] <ubotu> will_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:45] <sacater> soundray: i thought it was -hR
[06:45] <erUSUL> !it
[06:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:45] <armadill0> Chadarius: sure thing
[06:46] <patrick__> how do you delte folders from the terminal?
[06:46] <newbuntie> how do I find out which version of ubuntu I'm using?
[06:46] <HymnToLife> patrick__, rm -r /path/to/dir
[06:46] <HymnToLife> -rf if the dir is not empty
[06:46] <will_> oook well i do not know how to modify the file sources.list
[06:46] <defrysk> newbuntie, cat /etc/issue
[06:46] <erUSUL> patrick__: rmdir for empty folders rm -r if you want to wipe it out
[06:46] <soundray> sacater: -h can compound the danger
[06:46] <sacater> soundray: ah okay
[06:47] <patrick__> and the -r is after the folder name?
[06:47] <soundray> !cli | patrick__
[06:47] <ubotu> patrick__: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:47] <will_> and to modify the some string i had added by mistake..
[06:47] <HymnToLife> patrick__, no, after rm
[06:47] <soundray> patrick__: before or after, makes no difference in this case
[06:47] <newbuntie> how do I install a photosmart c4180 is the driver for it isn't listed? (Ubuntu 6.06)
[06:47] <patrick__> soundray, i'm stuck in a login of terminal, i cant get into the gui
[06:47] <patrick__> my disc says its full but i dont know why its saying this
[06:47] <royel> patrick__: be extremely careful using rm -rf, this is very powerful an has been known to accidently delete entire systems
[06:48] <soundray> patrick__: try a 'sudo apt-get autoclean' first.
[06:48] <newbuntie> how do I install an hp photosmart c4180 printer if the driver for it isn't listed? (6.06)
[06:49] <patrick__> it still says 100% even after that
[06:49] <jussi01> newbuntie: www.linuxprinting.org i think may have info for you
[06:49] <patrick__> 100% full
[06:49] <newbuntie> it's also not listed on the wiki...
[06:49] <newbuntie> jussi: I'll check thx
[06:49] <royel> patrick__: how big is your hard-drive?
[06:49] <kitche> patrick__: ctrl+alt+f2 and try and log in and do df -h
[06:49] <will_> the fact is that now the installation manager tell me "error opening the cache e:type "repository" in not known on line 41 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <wheels3572> Im having trouble adding a program to a launcher.  Cant get it running.  I get no errors it just wont open the program
[06:49] <patrick__> 80 gig
[06:49] <Norf-ubu> i have a belkin wireless card - lspi shows it as a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 - and iwconfig says that its "mounted" as eth1 - yet its dead in the water.,.. wireless assistant says there is nothing out there and manually configing it with networking doesn't seem to activate it (ie i cant see it on my windows box as an available ssid) - fairly newb here so help appreciated
[06:50] <jussi01> wheels3572: what program?
[06:50] <soundray> patrick__: then try 'sudo du -s | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'. This will tell you which directory occupies the most space (after a while)
[06:50] <patrick__> i'veokay thanks soundray
[06:50] <soundray> s/directory/directories/
[06:50] <wheels3572> jussi01, it's an html file that I want to associate with firefox and it just wont come up
[06:50] <soundray> patrick__: sorry, let me try again
[06:51] <jussi01> so what have you done so far?
[06:51] <soundray> patrick__: then try 'sudo du / | sort -n >/tmp/dusortn ; tail /tmp/dusortn'. This will tell you which directories occupies the most space.
[06:51] <wheels3572> I have added the launcher
[06:51] <unop> soundray,  just wondering. why not pipe to tail instead of creating temp file?
[06:51] <wheels3572> then added the path for firefox icon
[06:51] <soundray> unop: because he then has the option to examine the list further without redoing the time-consuming du
[06:52] <Chadarius> armadill0: The more I look around the more I think compiling a newer version is going to solve your problem. I don't much like that either, but since your driver is loaded and everything looks OK there that's all I can think of. The only other recourse is perhaps to mess with your alsamixer but from what you are saying I don't think that is the problem either
[06:52] <patrick__> soundray: it says no such file or directory for tmp/dusortn
[06:52] <unop> soundray,  ahh right
[06:52] <SanguineAnomaly> guys, how do I stop ubuntu trying to make me update my kernel?
[06:53] <Chadarius> armadill0: I am using the 1.0.14 release right now and its working OK for me... but I don't have your sound card :)
[06:53] <armadill0> Chadarius: Ok, yeah that sounds about right to me too.  Looks like its time to pull up the sleeves :)  Well thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
[06:53] <armadill0> Chadarius: yeah, its the weirdest thing
[06:53] <soundray> patrick__: don't miss out the leading slash on /tmp/dusortn
[06:53] <defrysk> SanguineAnomaly, why not update kernel ?
[06:53] <Chadarius> armadill0: Good luck my friend!
[06:53] <SanguineAnomaly> defrysk, because it breaks
[06:54] <kitche> SanguineAnomaly: so you can still use the old kernel if you wish also
[06:54] <patrick__> soundray : it came back, sort:write failed: standard output: No space left on device
[06:54] <patrick__> haha
[06:54] <karly> i am trying to install ubuntu onto my computer, but when i go to the menu and select the first option play and install, it goes to the loading screen, but after it loads the screen goes black with the little dashing line at the top left corner. after a while, it goes completely black. ive left my comp on for about an hour while this is happing, and nothing happens
[06:54] <SanguineAnomaly> kitche, but then I have redundant kernels littering /boot/
[06:54] <SanguineAnomaly> :/
[06:55] <soundray> patrick__: okay, that means we have to write the file as root (because root can use a reserve of space on the filesystem)
[06:55] <dyrne> karly: id try the alternate install cd available from ubuntu.com
[06:55] <Cin> xtknight, yo
[06:56] <soundray> patrick__: erm, change of plan (following unops suggestion): 'sudo du / | sort -n | tail'
[06:56] <armadill0> Chadarius: Thanks, I'll see you around :)
[06:56] <soundray> unop: would you mind taking over?
[06:56] <patrick__> okay thanks
[06:57] <soundray> patrick__: did that work?
[06:57] <KarlosII> cafuego , are you around?
[06:57] <patrick__> yes it did
[06:57] <karly> where do i find the alternate install cd
[06:57] <soundray> patrick__: and did it find an exceedingly large directory?
[06:58] <unop> soundray,  whats up?
[06:58] <royel> !alternate | karly
[06:58] <ubotu> karly: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:58] <soundray> unop: would you mind helping patrick__, 'cos my wife has made a lovely dinner for me
[06:58] <royel> karly: thought it would have had a link.. it's available under the downloads, scroll the page down a bit
[06:58] <unop> soundray,  ha .. no worries :)
[06:58] <patrick__> yeah, other than my music folder and photos, it came abck with one  /var/backup/2007-02-14_<IP_ADDRESS>341.patrick.desktop.ful
[06:58] <soundray> unop: cheers! :)
[06:59] <patrick__> thanks soundray, eat well!
[06:59] <soundray> patrick__: unop will sort you out :)
[06:59] <hoagie> soundray have a nice time
[06:59] <igor47> i just installed ubuntu, and its great!  one question though - i get the "software updates available" icon poping up.  however, i can't do "install updates" because i'm behind a proxy - can i set this "software updates" program to know about my proxy?
[07:00] <unop> patrick__,  so whats happening?
[07:00] <karly> royel: do u mean ubuntu 6.06?
[07:00] <mitcheloc> hi guys, i'm trying to get ubuntu to detect my second monitor -- using fglrx and an ati card
[07:00] <mitcheloc> any ideas? aticonfig dualhead doesn't seem to work?
[07:01] <royel> karly: there is alternate for all of them if I recall correctly
[07:01] <patrick__> unop, okay my harddrive is showing 100% full now,and i rebooted last night, but since then i cannot log in other than using ctrl+alt+f1 to get to terminal log in
[07:01] <KarlosII> hello, I've installeed gallery 2 nad goto http://localhost/gallery2/ but file is not found, anyone know why? It has not worked since upgrading from ubuntu 6.06, I have apache2 installed and mysql installed, and the ubuntu pkg supposedly presets it up? Any idea why where to start to find the issue?
[07:01] <patrick__> and we've been trying to sort out which folder ista king up a lot of space, and it seems to be from the sbackup program i instaled last night, the folder is quite large
[07:02] <eggyknap> I get the feeling this is a common problem, and I'm missing the solution, by why can't I install libc6-dev? I get "Depends: libc6 (=2.4-1ubuntu12) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed" from synaptic
[07:02] <patrick__> yeah, other than my music folder and photos, it came abck with one  /var/backup/2007-02-14_<IP_ADDRESS>341.patrick.desktop.ful unop, that folder
[07:02] <hoagie> igor 47: Open Synaptic then go to Settings>Preferences then go to the tab network and configure your proxy
[07:02] <MiD> hi everyone
[07:02] <unop> patrick__,  ok, so what is your plan of action ?
[07:02] <mitcheloc> are there any tools to make dual head detection easy on ubuntu?
[07:02] <unop> patrick__,  keep the folder, delete it, clean it up ??
[07:02] <babo_> why is the installer suggesting that I mount my windows partition to /media/sda1 ?
[07:02] <jussi01> !hi | MiD
[07:02] <ubotu> MiD: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:02] <KarlosII> dueal head what the heck is that
[07:03] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:03] <patrick__> i'm going to delete it, i just removed sbackup
[07:03] <karly> royel: do u mean dapper drake?
[07:03] <kitche> babo_: probably because it's ont he first hard drive and first partition and on a SATA drive?
[07:03] <unop> patrick__,  right, so all you want to do now is delete the folder, is that it?
[07:03] <khronus> hey all, tried installing ubuntu for first time last night, it failed nistalling so i reburnt
[07:03] <mitcheloc> KarlosII: in other words, i have two monitors out puts on my card, one dvi and one vga, i'm trying to get the dvi output to work (vga is already working)
[07:03] <khronus> and it failed agaIN
[07:03] <khronus> SO I DID DISKCHECK
[07:03] <khronus> AND IT FAILED
[07:03] <babo_> kitche: right, so what should I do ?
[07:03] <khronus> SO I RE D/LED IT
[07:03] <unop> !caps | khronus
[07:03] <ubotu> khronus: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:03] <khronus> AND SAME PROB
[07:03] <KarlosII> mitcheloc: I see
[07:03] <khronus> oops
[07:03] <patrick__> yes i'm going to do that now unop
[07:03] <kitche> babo_: just let it mount there :)
[07:03] <khronus> sorry folks
[07:04] <khronus> was not looking whilst typing
[07:04] <royel> babo_: it will give you access to the disk from within Linux/Ubuntu, it should be safe to do if you want to have access to anything from that drive partition
[07:04] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  do you want help with that or can you manage?
[07:04] <khronus> so we d/led again and burnt at lowest speed but it still fails the diskcheck
[07:04] <patrick__> but it said permission denied unop :(
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  sudoed?
[07:04] <igor47> hoagie: this thing has "manual proxy configuration" but i have an autoproxy...
[07:04] <unop> patrick__,  sudo rmdir /path/to/directory
[07:05] <hoagie> eh
[07:05] <patrick__> okay
[07:05] <royel> ubotu got tired of us :(
[07:05] <patrick__> ah that did it!
[07:05] <jim88> hi all ... can someone tell me if there is an irc channel for help with openoffice issues?
[07:06] <patrick__> 89% ful
[07:06] <patrick__> horray thanks unop
[07:06] <patrick__> lets try a log in.
[07:06] <patrick__> i also might have issues with my graphics driver haha
[07:06] <babo_> No file system is specified for partition #1 ... ?
[07:06] <unop> heh :)
[07:06] <hoagie> igor: sorry can't think of anything else
[07:06] <bayziders> Is there a avi to wmv converter for ubuntu?
[07:06] <patrick__> how do you restart from terminal
[07:06] <kitche> jim88: yes
[07:06] <royel> babo_: thats fine
[07:06] <babo_> I thought partition one was ntfs ...
[07:06] <kitche> !openoffice | jim88
[07:06] <unop> bayziders,  we usually try and convince people to use free formats when creating video
[07:07] <igor47> hoagie: thats alright, now that i know this thing is synaptic, i'll know where to look for more info - thanks!
[07:07] <unop> !restricted
[07:07] <kitche> !openoffice | jim88
[07:07] <mitcheloc> anyone familiar with dual monitor setups?
[07:07] <hoagie> nothing
[07:07] <jim88> thanks kitche is it freenode
[07:07] <royel> babo_: you can correct it in /etc/fstab after you've installed the system
[07:07] <bayziders> I would ussaly how ever it is for my 360 and it only plays wmvs
[07:07] <bayziders> =\
[07:07] <kitche> jim88: yeah
[07:07] <unop> seems ubotu's taking a break?
[07:07] <jim88> ty
[07:07] <babo_> roye1: do you prefer ext2 or ext3 ?
[07:07] <kitche> unop: seems like ubotu just rejoined but it's still broken
[07:07] <kitche> jim88: it's #opneoffice.users I believe ubotu has it but it's not working
[07:08] <patrick__> how do you restart the computer from terminal?
[07:08] <unop> patrick__,  sudo shutdown -r now
[07:08] <kitche> patrick__: sudo shutdown -r now
[07:08] <thor> patrick__: reboot
[07:08] <bayziders> Should I just get to googling?
[07:08] <bayziders> +
[07:08] <ubotu> jim88: a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:08] <patrick__> okay thanks all!
[07:08] <royel> babo_: I use ext2 for /boot an reiserfs for my desktops, on my server I use ext2 an ext3
[07:08] <karly> royel: so do u mean dapper drake?
[07:08] <MiD> a simple question: if i install ubuntu and kubuntu in different partitions, can i share the "/home" partition without having conflict problems?
[07:08] <royel> karly: which do you want ?
[07:09] <karly> royel: you siad to find the alternate text install version, and i dont see it
[07:09] <royel> MiD: I would think you could as long as you don't try an share the same directories, IE: /home/royel for both sytems
[07:09] <karly> said
[07:09] <kitche> MiD: sure you can but just don't reformat your /home and it will be fine
[07:09] <royel> karly: which version do you want?
[07:10] <hoagie> igor are you there?
[07:10] <igor47> hoagie: indeed
[07:10] <karly> royel: it doesnt matter to me
[07:10] <MiD> kitche, can i have users with same nick on both systems then?
[07:10] <unop> MiD, royel,  it shouldnt matter as long as ubuntu and kubuntu arent using it at the same time
[07:10] <Gomu_Gomu> server irc.rizon.org
[07:10] <karly> royeL: as long as it works
[07:10] <Gomu_Gomu> \server irc.rizon.org
[07:10] <patrick__> thanks so much unop and soundray, it's working fine now
[07:10] <unop> patrick__,  yw :)
[07:10] <patrick__> this channel is so much help
[07:10] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with my pmcia prism card?
[07:10] <hoagie> ok is the proxy problem only for the update manager or for ubuntu in general
[07:10] <hoagie> ?
[07:10] <bjdiei> Hi All.  I have upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06 to now 6.10.  hal is still broken.  Any suggestions?
[07:11] <royel> karly: try this http://ftp.wayne.edu/linux_distributions/ubuntu/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[07:11] <igor47> hoagie: i set up the proxy for firefox in firefox settings, and i added it to my bashrc as an environment variable so applications like wget work
[07:11] <igor47> hoagie: the only thing i'm having trouble with ti sthis "software updater" - btw, apt-get on the command line works
[07:12] <royel> karly: I assumed for PC (intel x86)
[07:12] <karly> royel:thats dude ur awesome =D
[07:12] <khronus> hi folks, anyone know why ubunto cd is failing checksum?
[07:12] <hoagie> ok so I suppose that if you go to System>Preferences>Network Proxy and click the automatic proxy configuration will work... fortunately
[07:13] <karly> royel:i tried to find out the version, but i couldnt open up the case, the screws were on the inside of the case, so i could only open it up partially, and it didnt say which version of bios
[07:13] <karly> but it is a intel pentium 2 processor
[07:13] <lwizardl> Hi
[07:13] <Ramm> hi all
[07:14] <royel> karly: you shouldn't need to open it for anything, that info is enough to know which version of ubuntu to download, Did you try a LIVECD first?
[07:14] <lwizardl> how do you mount a remote directory as a local directory?
[07:14] <karly> royel: wait whats a live cd?
[07:14] <bjdiei> Anybody here know how I can fix hal?  I upgraded and it no longer works.
[07:15] <royel> !livecd | karly
[07:15] <ubotu> karly: Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[07:15] <karly> royel: i got a ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 iso image off the site
[07:15] <karly> that might be why it didnt work
[07:15] <webwolf_27> I need gnucash with hbci will upgrading to feisty do the trick, I will I have to build on my own
[07:15] <khronus> hi folks, the diskcheck is failing on my ubuntu cd, even after d/l from diff mirrors and have also burnt at slow speed but still fails, any ideaS?
[07:16] <hoagie> igor still there ?
[07:16] <royel> karly: you have to burn the .iso image to a CD now
[07:16] <khronus> bad burning software or dodgy ubuntu release??
[07:17] <karly> royel: i know that, ive been using computers for a while, i just dont know much about linux. but im eager to learn =D. the file hasnt finished dl'ing yet
[07:17] <roe> does anyone know how to get the scroll wheel to scroll more than one line at a time?
[07:17] <Gomu_Gomu> server irc.rizon.org
[07:17] <royel> karly: if you want to install directly from windows, then take a look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[07:17] <karly> royel:but ill burn it when it finishes dling
[07:17] <slippyr4> i keep reading about "enabling universe" . what does that mean and why would i want to do it ?
[07:18] <rafael_> hello
[07:18] <royel> !universe | slippyr4
[07:18] <ubotu> slippyr4: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:18] <karly> royel: whoa thats tight. hrm. ill see if i can get this that to work if the first cd image doesnt work
[07:18] <julle> is there anyone who knows the command for recieving a file a "dcc send" from a user in IRSSI?
[07:19] <slippyr4> thanks royel
[07:19] <royel> slippyr4: yw
[07:19] <Advanced> evenin :)
[07:19] <karly> royel: but can i only do it from windows xp?
[07:19] <Pici> julle: /dcc get perhaps?
[07:19] <SportChick> julle: /dcc get $nickofsender
[07:19] <royel> karly: I'm not sure, it might work with other versions of windows
[07:20] <kuma> hi, In wich directory should I install an application that it isn't in the Adept?
[07:20] <karly> royel: ok thanks. uve been a big help. im really grateful
[07:20] <julle> SportChick: okey thanks! is $ reqiured?
[07:20] <royel> karly: honestly, the 6.10 image you downloaded is probably gonna be your best bet, since it is a LiveCD
[07:20] <royel> karly: anytime :)
[07:20] <SportChick> julle: no
[07:21] <karly> royel: wait so the image from the link you just gave me or the one i got before
[07:21] <bayziders> could any one recommend a bash/shell porgamming tutorial?
[07:22] <royel> karly: the one I gave you is whats called an alternate install cd image, it is not a LiveCD, meaning that you can only use it to install.. an it's a basic text mode version, it's generally used for slower machines or people wanting to have a bit more control over the install
[07:22] <gnomefreak> bayziders: abs guide
[07:22] <Pici> bayziders: http://en.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[07:22] <bayziders> Thanks.
[07:22] <karly> royel:mkay.i get it now.
[07:23] <unop> bayziders, this too  http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[07:23] <bayziders> Will bookmark them all.
[07:23] <royel> karly: the one you said you had downloaded, if it's the 6.10 i386 will give you a bootable fully functioning linux OS without actually installing.. (think of it as test driving) :)
[07:23] <unop> bayziders,  you might want to start of with the latter tho
[07:23] <bayziders> Kay
[07:24] <royel> karly: ^^ that LiveCD also has the ability to perform an install
[07:24] <leafw> is there any command that would do a 'cp -au this that', but deleting files that have been removed from the source dir, like rsync would do ?
[07:25] <royel> leafw: mv ?
[07:25] <karly> royel: yeah, but it just froze when i tried to install it as i explained before
[07:26] <VrilutZa> how to add suport this on kernel
[07:26] <VrilutZa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5950/
[07:26] <leafw> not mv, what I wan to do is to create a mirrored backup within the hard drive, like I would with rsync between different PCs
[07:26] <Geak> hey, could you please tell me what kind of and os I should use if I am a beginner?
[07:26] <VrilutZa> requit the install htb-tools
[07:26] <VrilutZa> http://htb-tools.arny.ro/content.php?content.7
[07:26] <craigbass76> Hey folks, I'm trying to mount up a share and it's not working.  mount -t smbfs //ip.address/share  The share is on a windowsME box, and while I know this is just asking for trouble, it's what I have to deal with.
[07:26] <VrilutZa> ?
[07:26] <Geak> hey, could you please tell me what kind of and os I should use if I am a beginner?
[07:26] <unop> leafw,  rsync definitely does that -- it's whole point is "synchronicity" .. man rsync
[07:26] <craigbass76> oops, mount -t smbfs //ip.address/share /mnt
[07:26] <leafw> yes, but within the same computer, not remote sync
[07:26] <Kelbizzle> Geak, use ubuntu
[07:26] <mitcheloc> can anyone help me with a dual-monitor set up using the fglrx/ati driver?
[07:27] <unop> leafw,  rsync doesnt have to work over a network, it can do local folder-to-folder replication too
[07:27] <Erealz> hello everyone
[07:27] <royel> karly: ah, I missed you saying that.. try the alternate then, if that is too much for you, you might wanna take a look at that windows installer I gave you link to, I haven't actually used it myself, but it has got alot of praise I'm told :)
[07:27] <leafw> unop: I see, rsync also works within one PC
[07:27] <mitcheloc> i can't get the video card to detect/use my second monitor -- argh
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi good ppl
[07:27] <unop> leafw,  correct
[07:27] <soundray> patrick__: I see you removed your backup to get it going again
[07:27] <leafw> thanks unop, I've been using rsync for so long I forgot it could do local mirroring as well
[07:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> i think my sata hdd has some bad sectors! how do i check them?
[07:27] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc, your issue might be better solved m checking the foru,s.
[07:28] <mejde> has anyone experienced problems with getting pmtu to work?
[07:28] <unop> leafw,  well, i dont know the option you want off the top of me head - but generally -- rsync --options /source /destination
[07:28] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc, by checking the forums.
[07:28] <Erealz> i have a quick question , and that is, what do i install to get mp3 to play. my box is a fresh install.
[07:28] <VrilutZa> ani body help
[07:28] <soundray> !mp3 | Erealz
[07:28] <Pici> !mp3 | Erealz
[07:28] <ubotu> Erealz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <royel> craigbass76: try mount -t ntfs
[07:28] <mitcheloc> Kelbizzle: i've read several forum posts and blogs and guides, can't seem to find the advice i need, i must be missing something...
[07:28] <mitcheloc> i had this working about 6 months ago with ubuntu and don't remember doing anything speciail
[07:29] <mitcheloc> *special
[07:29] <mejde> the icmp unreachable message is sent back but if I, say, copy something with ssh, it just stalls
[07:29] <craigbass76> royel: on a windowsME box?
[07:29] <asraniel> hi, can i ask questions for feisty herd 3 here?
[07:29] <Bardamu> hello
[07:29] <soundray> !feisty | asraniel
[07:29] <ubotu> asraniel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <Kelbizzle> mitcheloc,  Yea I was able to do it with one nvidia card. I would say start over. Just pick another tutorial then start over.
[07:30] <bayziders> *sighs* I need a dvd/r drive. This cd/r drive isn't cutting it any more.
[07:30] <asraniel> soundray: thx
[07:30] <royel> craigbass76: yeah, dont think windows has samba filesystems
[07:30] <darweth> Does anyone know why Windows Fonts (Times New Roman and Arial) look so disgusting in OpenOffice?
[07:30] <Kelbizzle> darweth, smooth fonts maybe?
[07:30] <royel> craigbass76: -t specifies which type of filesystem your wanting to mount
[07:30] <Pici> craigbass76, royel : WindowsME would be running on vfat
[07:30] <darweth> Well, Times New Ramone and Arial look fine outside of OO.
[07:30] <Amilol7300> siemka
[07:31] <darweth> They just look bad in that app.
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> hm...
[07:31] <darweth> Roman, not Ramone. Haha.
[07:31] <royel> Pici: ooh, good catch.. I just seen Windows an stopped thinking
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> I don't even know.
[07:31] <royel> craigbass76: what Pici said, mount -t vfat //ip. /mnt
[07:31] <unop> royel,  errm, samba is a *nix implementation of the Windows SMB/CIFS ,... so windows technically has those file systems
[07:31] <Kelbizzle> I still don't know why I can't find out when a file was created in the properties.
[07:31] <Pici> Oh, you're going over a network?
[07:31] <craigbass76> royel: Yes, windowsME is running on vfat, but that's not the fs it's sharing stuff out as is it?
[07:32] <kdavidson> anybody successfully installed a DLink wireless adapter?
[07:32] <royel> unop: but the command to mount would not be # mount -t smbfs //...
[07:32] <Pici> craigbass76: It would be mount -t smbfs -o username=something //ip/share /mnt/
[07:32] <craigbass76> Pici: Yes, over a network.  The command I typed has always worked on XPsystems, but I've never tried it on an older windows.
[07:32] <unop> royel,  on windows it's net use ...
[07:33] <kdavidson> wifi radar states shows that it connects to the router as the adapter get's an IP from the router through DHCP
[07:33] <kuma> I'm running Kubuntu, does anybody knows where can i find the wine source library?
[07:33] <riotkittie> yeah, if its a win share and he's trying to mount it, then yea, smbfs
[07:34] <soundray> craigbass76: make sure you have the smbfs package installed
[07:34] <Pici> You may need to install smbfs support, I'm not sure if its there by default
[07:34] <craigbass76> soundray: on Ubuntu?  Oh yeah... I'm running off the cd and didn't think of that.
[07:34] <craigbass76> Doh!
[07:34] <kdavidson> Anybody running a wireless network?
[07:34] <babo_> ubuntu won't play with my wireless connection ...
[07:34] <ikonia> yes
[07:35] <bayziders> Would ubuntu recognize a external dvd rw drive?
[07:35] <babo_> what can I do to configure it ?
[07:35] <soundray> kdavidson: is this a survey?
[07:35] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, I've gotten mine to work
[07:35] <kdavidson> soundray: nope, legit question - I have a WNA-1330 Dlink adapter and it is not connecting
[07:35] <royel> craigbass76: pardon the misinformation, I don't mount many windows shares.
[07:35] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, lemme see which one I have
[07:36] <soundray> !wireless | kdavidson
[07:36] <ubotu> kdavidson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:36] <kdavidson> Kelbizzle: looking more for the athero chipset
[07:36] <riotkittie> ok. back to my stupid question. i have searched the forums and everything but could not find an answer. maybe my search terms were less than stellar, i dont know.
[07:36] <craigbass76> royel: S'ok, I try to steer clear of them too when I can.  Kind of like how I avoid Wal-Mart...
[07:36] <craigbass76> royel: every once in a while I'm forced...
[07:36] <Pici> riotkittie: Dont make me use !ask ;)
[07:36] <kdavidson> ubotu: Thanks, will view that too :)
[07:36] <kiwii> how to play ogg in shell ?
[07:36] <cosstick> Hello, i need help installing stuff, i just installed ubuntu dapper, and i want to install .exe files
[07:36] <soundray> darweth: it may be worth backing up your $HOME/.openoffice.org2 directory and starting with a default config
[07:36] <kuma> I'm running Kubuntu, does anybody knows where can i find the wine source library?
[07:36] <riotkittie> Pici:  hey hey hey, i was getting to it :P
[07:36] <royel> craigbass76: lol, I remember the days of Wal-mart being "Made in the USA", Sam Walton would turn over in his grave if he knew how it's run now
[07:37] <soundray> !ogg123 | kiwii
[07:37] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, ahhh.. I have DWL-G122
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg123 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <kuma> *directory
[07:37] <dyrne> hey guys in bash what was the var to echo to see if command completed correctly? echo $something
[07:37] <kiwii> !ogg
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <kdavidson> kelbizzle: I wish I was at this point, found plenty of instruction for that :)
[07:37] <cosstick> Hello, i need help installing stuff, i just installed ubuntu dapper, and i want to install .exe files
[07:37] <Pici> !wine | cosstick see here for information on running windows programs
[07:37] <ubotu> cosstick see here for information on running windows programs: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:38] <seeds> i need some help please. I've just installed the osx icon package but i have problems with the trash icon. I think its name is not correct. what name should i use for it?
[07:38] <kdavidson> cosstick: I am still fairly new to Linux, but EXE files would need to be run through Wine
[07:38] <kdavidson> cosstick: already answered by ubotu (oops)
[07:38] <cosstick> !wine
[07:38] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, yea it would probably be different. If your looking for something with an atheros chipset. I'd probably get an adapter someone has already used.
[07:38] <Kelbizzle> kdavidson, if you don't feel like trolling until you get it resolved.
[07:38] <royel> cosstick: it might also be worth mentioning, .exe files are window binaries.. an are not designed for GNU/Linux .. but as said above, check into Wine
[07:38] <soundray> !vorbis-tools | kiwii, this package contains ogg123
[07:38] <ubotu> kiwii, this package contains ogg123: vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-5 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 728 kB