[07:58] <desertc> pajamian: what is exactly going on?  you were not clear
[07:58] <unop> possum_, I tried but i can't seem to get rapidshare to let me download the pic and I had to restart firefox can you send the link again
[07:58] <unop> please?
[07:58] <mattinrom> I need help getting qemu working someone help
[07:58] <jay-oh-en> how come everytime i turn my computer on it says failed to initialize HAL! i looked on google but havent found an answer yet
[07:58] <pajamian> sorry, I thought I was, not sure how else to explain it, what part was confusing?
[07:58] <possum_> unop:  http://rapidshare.de/files/38392549/Screenshot.png.html =)
[07:59] <desertc> pajamian: what is happening that is causing you not to login
[07:59] <unop> possum_, fta
[07:59] <n2diy_> unop: then what is /etc/fstab?
[07:59] <desertc> jay-oh-en: HAL is a microsoft term
[07:59] <mopitup> I have ubuntu desktop running in a vmware workstation on a windows xp pro machine - I want to run Kaffeine in ubuntu as a capture app for my tvcard - currently it cant see the card - is what I want to do even possible?
[08:00] <jay-oh-en> desertc, no it isnt
[08:00] <qwerty121> Hi! I installed PHP/MySQL/Apache but can't connect to mysql...Is there some mods i have to make to connect to mysql?
[08:00] <desertc> jay-oh-en: I am quite certain it is
[08:00] <unop> n2diy_, it's a non-executable text file containing information for mount to help in mounting volumes
[08:00] <pajamian> I can login, and then it freezes with just the mouse pointer and a blank screen (background color), and the HDD light is flickering the whole time.  I can move the mouse pointer and I can get a console with ctrl-alt-F1 but that's about it.
 hal is hardware abstraction layer.hal.dll is a file in windows
[08:00] <Starnestommy> mopitup: I don't think so, since most of the hardware is emulated
[08:00] <jay-oh-en> desertc, search my problem on google and youll only see linux pop up
[08:00] <possum_> unop:  fta?
[08:00] <ouellettesr> \quit rebooting
[08:01] <sonicjmc>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:01] <sonicjmc> Can somebody help with Compiz?
[08:01] <elius> qwerty121> what does 'mysql -u root -p' says?
[08:01] <bashca> hi all
[08:01] <n2diy_> unop: and it used to list my network devices, no it doesn't I guess I've been "upgraded?"
[08:01] <ntnhan> hi, when connect to ubuntu server (via ssh, http...) , it works fine but ubuntu server stops connection, ssh client  kinda freezes
[08:01] <Breakage> sonicjmc: try #compiz-fusion
[08:01] <desertc> pajamian: what happens when you let it sit for a while?
[08:01] <qwerty121> elius: it's allright. but i can't connect to mysql with php...
[08:01] <mopitup> Starnestommy ty - i was beginning to think it wasnt possible
[08:01] <pajamian> nothing, I just let it sit while I went and ate dinner.
[08:02] <sonicjmc> I haven't used this program ever, how to I change room?
[08:02] <ntnhan> after some times
[08:02] <desertc> pajamian: and you can't get to a service console?  Can you get to a console before you login?
[08:02] <ntnhan> anybody has such a problem with ubuntu server?
[08:02] <pajamian> yes, I can get to a console
[08:02] <sonicjmc> Oh, hey, figured out room changing
[08:02] <unop> possum_, nevermind.  i got your screenshot - what happens when you run this command (preferably at a terminal) .. killall gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon
[08:02] <pajamian> both before and after logging in.
[08:02] <pajamian> with ctrl-alt-F1
[08:02] <possum_> unop:  should i try it from within gnome?
[08:02] <n2diy_> ifstab used to list my network devices, now it doesn't? How do I see the network devices now, with Dapper?
[08:02] <unop> n2diy_, fstab ?? perhaps you meant fdisk ?
[08:02] <desertc> pajamian: what does the log file say?  (use my name when chatting so people don't get confused)
[08:03] <JackMe> see ya
[08:03] <pajamian> desertc: which log file should I look at?
[08:03] <ntnhan> my problem is exact same as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151180
[08:03] <elius> qwerty121> "cat /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini | grep mysql.so" paste results
[08:03] <n2diy_> unop: nope
[08:03] <unop> possum_, try it from a virtual terminal -- press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to VT1 -- and CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back
[08:03] <desertc> pajamian: let's start with the /var/log/messages
[08:03] <bullgard4> file:///usr/share/doc/hal-doc/spec/hal-spec.html#ov_halarch : How can I determine the filenames of my 'Device Information Files'? I believe that /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/ does not contain all necessary 'Device Information Files'.
[08:03] <unop> n2diy_, afaik, fstab is not a _standard_ unix utility/command
[08:03] <qwerty121> elius: i am in windows now. brb
[08:04] <unop> n2diy_, you probably have it confused for something named similar
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> desertc, search my problem on google and youll only see linux pop up
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> oops
[08:04] <jay-oh-en> how come everytime i turn my computer on it says failed to initialize HAL! i looked on google but havent found an answer yet
[08:04] <n2diy_> unop: yes, I could be having a brain cramp. Going to search my CLI history now.
[08:05] <desertc> jay-oh-en: why don't you tell us what google says, so we can understand your problem as well as you
[08:05] <possum_> unop:  it returns "gnome-settings-daemon: no process killed"
[08:05] <jay-oh-en> desertc, simply because i cant paste a bunch of stuff
[08:06] <pajamian> desertc: I'm looking for something that jumps out at me ...
[08:06] <desertc> pajamian: it should be at the end
[08:06] <desertc> jay-oh-en: use pastebin
[08:06] <unop> possum_, ok, try this again (mind the &s) --  killall -9 gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon &
[08:06] <pajamian> ok, I will retype the last few lines, then ...
[08:06] <desertc> !pastebin |pajamian
[08:06] <ubotu> pajamian: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <jay-oh-en> desertc, or you can look an google and see what im seeing but MORE
[08:07] <pajamian> heh, right, I'll use the pastebin, let me install a mail app and see if I can mail the log to myself
[08:07] <unop> possum_, i gotta do something -- i'll probably be back in about 5/10 mins
[08:07] <desertc> jay-oh-en:  but then how would everyone else here be able to help you?
[08:07] <khatsalano> Hi all.  Some commands (ex: useradd, mkdir) I do as sudo get ignored.  Nothing happens no error, nothing.  I can't even shutdown!  Any ideas? (7.10 server)
[08:07] <arjuna> why do you hate windows? please go back to windows. how dare you install linux?
[08:08] <possum_> unop: ok thanks man  =D
[08:08] <jay-oh-en> desertc, but ill bet somebody in here is watching me type and just watching and not helping
[08:08] <genewitch> is there a stable ubuntu release using a 2.4 kernel?
[08:08] <desertc> jay-oh-en: that would be me
[08:09] <genewitch> I suppose what i am asking is "what ubuntu distro uses 2.4.x"
[08:09] <jay-oh-en> desertc, eff you
[08:09] <n2diy_> unop: yes, I could be having a brain cramp. I was looking for ifconfig!
[08:10] <buffdaemon> hello guys which package should i install to get inittab file?
[08:10] <void^> genewitch: none
[08:11] <Gpalco> Hi, Guys. Does anyone know what is the situation with Pidgin Voice Support for talking to Google talk ??? Is it being developed? Becoming available ???
[08:11] <Starnestommy> Gpalco: try asking #pidgin.
[08:11] <dn4> wget http://download85.mediafire.com/y3lzn29vrr2g/fzdznvbnlwu/SECRETOX.rar    <-- will this work so that I can download ANON documents that the Church of Scientology does not want me to see?
[08:12] <Zorlin> Gpalco: I assume that the "Pidgin does NOT support voice or video"
[08:12] <Zorlin> in the name of the topic, would indicate "No"
[08:12] <genewitch> is there a stable ubuntu release using a 2.4 kernel?
[08:12] <Zorlin> to both your questions.
[08:12] <janke> haha, dn4, that'll work fine
[08:12] <Gpalco> Starnestommy, no such chanel
[08:12] <Starnestommy> Gpalco: without the . at the end
[08:12] <Zorlin> Gpalco: #pidgin without the dot
[08:13] <Zorlin> Gpalco: The topic of #pidgin has "Pidgin does NOT support voice or video" in it, so I assume thats a NO :P
[08:13] <n2diy_> genewitch: try asking in #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:13] <buffdaemon> hello guys i am using ubuntu linux and i dont see /etc/inittab file in there so is there any package that i need to install inorder to get that file?
[08:13] <genewitch> good point
[08:14] <Gpalco> Starnestommy, Zorlin, thank you
[08:14] <_ruben> buffdaemon: inittab is no longer used in ubuntu, it uses upstart instead of init
[08:15] <Zorlin> Gpalco: You're most welcome. Stick around a while and help out others if you like. Need help with anything else?
[08:15] <Zorlin> =p
[08:15] <buffdaemon> thanks a lot
[08:15] <desertc> pajamian: still there?  I forgot you can't do a cut and paste
[08:15] <arjuna> anybody here still uses windows 98?
[08:15] <Zorlin> _ruben: Wow, really? Since when?
[08:15] <pajamian> desertc: yeah, I installed mailutils and am trying to email to myself
[08:15] <jeffrock> i have a windows 98 vm
[08:15] <pajamian> but it doesn't appear to be going through
[08:15] <CentHOGG> arjuna: installed it today on a i586
[08:15] <crdlb> Zorlin: edgy
[08:16] <CentHOGG> or yesterday
[08:16] <pajamian> I'm trying to think of another way to get it to me ... maybe I can scp it somewhere...
[08:16] <Zorlin> crdlb: Oh darn, now I feel like a total noob. I tried for hours to get a script running using init on 6.10
[08:16] <Zorlin> if init.d is gone, i mean
[08:16] <desertc> pajamian: interesting!
[08:17] <Zorlin> :P Thanks crdlb, thanks _ruben
[08:17] <arjuna> CentHOGG> what's i586
[08:17] <sonicjmc> Note, if anybody has the same error I did. Tell them to try installing xserver-xgl
[08:17] <pajamian> ...or install openssh and just log in from a terminal on this box will work ...
[08:17] <CentHOGG> arjuna: pentium
[08:17] <Zorlin> CentHOGG: A CPU architecture?
[08:17] <Zorlin> oops, arjuna* i mean
[08:17] <CentHOGG> Zorlin: correct
[08:17] <Gpalco> Zorlin, aha. I do. I am looking for software in Ubuntu like the KillCopy in Windows - it integrates into Win Explorer and gives you options to resume copy/move, recover broken files etc... Is there an addition like that for NAUTILUS ??? Need it badly.
[08:18] <pajamian> or is the package sshd?
[08:18] <Zorlin> Gpalco: Sorry mate, I'm not too sure about that =(
[08:18] <arjuna> what's the best image burning software for linuxwhat's the best image burning software for linux
[08:18] <Zorlin> But ask around, there is 1157 people logged in here. :P Someone's gotta know something.
[08:18] <pajamian> ahhh, openssh-server
[08:18] <Zorlin> Arjuna: K3b is supposed to be very good, if you are running Kubuntu.
[08:18] <pier> hi
[08:18] <Zorlin> Arjuna: I like the one with a mexican name, but I can't remember it...
[08:18] <Gpalco> Zorlin, there is a stage in Ubuntu starup: after login screen and the desktop itself - it is where Gnome Splash used to be. Is it possible to change the color of that screen ??? I changed the color of GDM Login screen, but it has no effect on the "no-splash-screen"! Any idea?
[08:19] <stefano_> are there any usability people around here whom i can talk to?
[08:19] <pajamian> heh, I do web programming remotely, I'm very comfortable in a console.
[08:19] <Ademan> i know this is off topic, but the linux mint channel has 7 people in it who apparently aren't talking.  Does linux mint share the ubuntu repositories? do they have their own repos on top of that? or what?
[08:19] <CentHOGG> pajamian: is that easy to learn to do?
[08:19] <webPragmatist> yea i wish i could get the hang of vim
[08:19] <Zorlin> Gpalco: Perhaps you'll find it in the gnome-splash settings, if gnome-splash is still integrated but just set to invisible :P
[08:19] <webPragmatist> i would do the console edity thing
[08:19] <aroedl> PLEASE! Do not feed this troll arjuna! He's asking the same questions for a while in several channels.
[08:19] <Ademan> vim = sex, except i'm still having it after my girlfriend left me
[08:19] <Ademan> lol
[08:20] <webPragmatist> the only editor i understand is nano
[08:20] <webPragmatist> :P
[08:20]  * genewitch can't use vim, no Q key on the laptop!!!
[08:20] <pajamian> CentHOGG: define easy
[08:20]  * genewitch is a dyed in the wool emacs fan
[08:20] <stefano_> Ademan, ubuntu and mint are not connected officially as far as i know, so i suppose they dont share anything except a lot of source code :-)
[08:20] <Zorlin> Pajamian: A task done without too much of a struggle.
[08:20] <CentHOGG> pajamian: something that doesn't cause table pounding frustration :P
[08:20] <Ademan> stefano_: huh, for some reason i thought mint relied on ubuntu's repositories, but if not, meh, thanks
[08:21] <webPragmatist> arjuna: Nero Burning Rom
[08:21] <Zorlin> Or rather, "done without too much of a struggle."
[08:21] <pajamian> LoL, I've had lots of table pounding frustration in my time, so I guess that's no.
[08:21] <Zorlin> Pajamian: A task with minimum risk of PEBCAK
[08:21] <jervine> arjuna is a bot/troll guys... he's asking the same question in multiple channels
[08:21] <stefano_> so, noone here is into usability?
[08:21] <Zorlin> stefano_: What do you mean?
[08:21] <pajamian> ok, I've got a ssh console open from this computer now, so this should be much easier ...
[08:22] <stefano_> Zorlin, well i'm a developer and i work on something, and now i have a hard time deciding how to implement one specific thing, and my solution really sounds bonkers so i thought i'd try to find someone maybe from the openusability project or someone who's into this topic
[08:23] <pajamian> desertc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53276/
[08:23] <stefano_> specifically about how to implement a more advanced Undo / Redo, because the one we're all used to really is terrible
[08:23] <Zorlin> Stefano_: I'm pretty new at Linux, so I might not be the best candidate
[08:23] <genewitch> stefano_ what about it do you want to fix?
[08:23] <Zorlin> :P
[08:23] <pajamian> that's just the end, I can copy/paste the entire thing if need be
[08:23] <juso> if I have a remote server running smtpd and I want to access it via a ssh tunnel I would create the tunnel from my local desktop to the remote server, or on the remote server itself from port X to port 25?
[08:24] <genewitch> juso if it's a routed port, either should work
[08:24] <stefano_> Zorlin, if you undo something, then type text, you can't redo. so your version you had a couple of seconds before undoing is lost
[08:24] <stefano_> thats what annoys me
[08:24] <Zorlin> hmmmm
[08:24] <genewitch> stefano_ do you have a working model?
[08:24] <stefano_> especially when programming/debugging
[08:24] <Zorlin> it'd probably be a bit annoying.
[08:24] <stefano_> yes i think so, but as i said it might not be as good as i think
[08:24] <Zorlin> what was your solution? maybe just copy whatever you undid to the clipboard or something
[08:25] <genewitch> stefano_ seems like the best idea woul... yah, sorta what zorlin says
[08:25] <Zorlin> Or you could make a variable or at least the equivalent of a variable in whatever language you are using
[08:25] <genewitch> you could add to it multiple layers of undo clippings... sorta like a macroed control X
[08:25] <Zorlin> and then temporarily store the change you are undoing, and then have redo call it
[08:25] <stefano_> here's my idea: if you undo, then type, then redo, your chanes get undone step by step until youre at the point before you typed in other text, from then on you have a normal redo, if you can understand that (as i said it sounds bonkers). do you think it would feel right?
[08:26] <genewitch> sounds like photoshop's history tab
[08:26] <genewitch> am i correct in saying that?
[08:26] <Zorlin> Stefano_: It might.
[08:26] <arjuna> NightKhaos> where can i find a .deb file for k3b?
[08:26] <Zorlin> Stefano_: But how about: Make undo store the changes in a variable, then have redo call it from the variable and then clear the variable.
[08:27] <iceman> who took my nick? i like that nick very much
[08:27] <Zorlin> The variable is only used by undo/redo so chances are you won't have problems :P
[08:27] <stefano_> Zorlin, i take a different approach on undo/redo, i want to save difference-information with every letter you type so that you can go back in time in your document up until the point it was created, even after saving
[08:28] <pajamian> stefano_: sounds like you want a sort of branching undo history, where you don't loose your changes but they could be saved into a "branch" and you could switch branches later on, etc.
[08:28] <stefano_> that sounds good
[08:28] <genewitch> pajamian i called it a branching tree heirarchy, in a msg to him
[08:28] <genewitch> it's like photoshop history with "snapshots" of time
[08:28] <stefano_> a tree hirarchy
[08:28] <stefano_> thats exactly what i need
[08:28] <Zorlin> Stefano_: Somehow I think Pajamian/Genewitch's suggestion would work better :)
[08:29] <Zorlin> Good luck, and hope it all works out for you :P
[08:29] <Zorlin> Anyone else need help/ideas?
[08:29] <genewitch> Stefano, grab you an opensource editor's source code and get to hacking
[08:29] <stefano_> thanks genewitch
[08:29] <genewitch> I'll betatest for you!
[08:29] <pajamian> I tend to think of it ... if you've ever worked with a revision control system such as CVS, as branches in that, you can go back to prior revisions and branch off and the other branch you were on is not lost.
[08:29] <stefano_> well all that is for the windows platform
[08:29] <genewitch> that's a good analogy, pajamian
[08:30] <stefano_> just nobody uses pascal in linux anymore and my project is pascal related :-)
[08:30] <genewitch> you know what no one uses anymore? FORTRAN.
[08:30] <genewitch> but godspeed to your pascal project
[08:30] <pajamian> anymore, I thought it wasn't until fairly recently that there even was a decent pascal compiler for Linux.
[08:30] <stefano_> good point
[08:30] <mavi-> pascal?
[08:31] <mavi-> wow, havent heard of that since school
[08:31] <stefano_> i think about a year ago, i had the only usable pascal ide
[08:31] <pajamian> of course, I'm not sure why anyone would use pascal on any platform, heh
[08:31] <possum_> unop: That command returned [1] 16210 gnome settings daemon: no process killed
[08:31] <stefano_> but then i discovered geany, but on the windows platform, mine is still #1 _>
[08:31] <pajamian> desertc: did you see my paste?
[08:31] <Jaggz-> how do I get back into the menu from the command-line grub?
[08:32] <genewitch> escape
[08:32] <Jaggz-> I'd like to investigate some things, then go back to the nice edited menu
[08:32] <Jaggz-> wow
[08:32] <genewitch> :-)
[08:32] <genewitch> if you edited anything, b to boot after hitting escape
[08:33] <stefano_> k guys i'm going to be working, thanks for your help, appreciate it very much, bye
[08:33] <Jaggz-> will maps and such remain as the foundation for the menu-ized entries?
[08:33] <genewitch> Jaggz- just for that boot
[08:33] <Jaggz-> right, great.
[08:33] <genewitch> Jaggz- you have to edit menu.lst to make it perminate
[08:33] <Jaggz-> I'm having a hell of a time getting my 3rd drive to boot (linux on it).. first 2 drives are raid0
[08:33] <iceman> is there a channel for non-english speakers learning english
[08:33] <genewitch> webster.com?
[08:34] <Jaggz-> iceman, www.voycabulary.com
[08:34] <Jaggz-> what language do you speak?
[08:34] <iceman> chinese
[08:34] <Jaggz-> nowadays there are plugins.. but without those, starting from back in the day, voycabulary was awesome
[08:34] <genewitch> oh here's a question. anyone heard of an open/closed source locationfree server (for sony's silly clients)
[08:35] <Jaggz-> I think I provide an English -> Chinese dictionary
[08:35] <shady_inc> Does anyone know how can I port-forward my router in Ubuntu gutsy for deluge.?
[08:35] <Jaggz-> gene, server for what?
[08:35] <genewitch> locationfree
[08:35] <Jaggz-> oh.. thought that was a term for a decentralized network :)
[08:35] <genewitch> lets you stream video to PSPs and windows and macs and stuff
[08:35] <iceman> Jaggz-, you mean you can speak eng and chinese either
[08:36] <Jaggz-> iceman, voycabulary would only be for reading webpages
[08:36] <jeffrock> i use media tomb
[08:36] <jeffrock> haven't got it working right for ps3 though
[08:36] <Jaggz-> iceman, you want a #ubuntu-with-english-and-chinese-is-okay-too channel?  I'm far from an expert on the ubuntu channels :)
[08:36] <genewitch> it's for the psp my girlfriend has
[08:37] <Jaggz-> dunno.. maybe vlc?
[08:37] <Jaggz-> gene
[08:37] <iceman> Jaggz-, no i just want to learn english
[08:37] <genewitch> Yeah that's all hacky though (psp side). i don't want to accidently brick her psp trying to get video to work :-)
[08:37] <Gpalco> Zorlin, What is the command to restart Ubuntu networking deamon ???
[08:37] <Jaggz-> iceman, ohh.
[08:38] <genewitch> iceman, the only thing i can think of that will help you learn english is to watch english television and maybe pick up a copy of rosetta (language software)
[08:38] <Zorlin> Gpalco: Erm, not too sure...
[08:38] <pajamian> Gpalco: I always use: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:38] <Zorlin> nm-manager-applet or something is its name, right?
[08:38] <smackywolf> are there any currently reported issues with the partitioning system in the current stable ubuntu releases? i;m seeing a lot of stupidity
[08:38] <iceman> genewitch, thank you for advice,but i haven;t had enough time,i need to work
[08:39] <iceman> Genetics, by the way,what is rosetta,what is it for
[08:40] <Gpalco> pajamian, thank you
[08:40] <scguy318> iceman: Rosetta Stone is a series of foreign-language educational software programs
[08:40] <pajamian> Gpalco: yw
[08:40] <unop> smackywolf, is this on the live CD?
[08:40] <RobotGuy> ~faq
[08:40] <smackywolf> unop: yup. it's not seeing unpartitioned space on one ntfs partitioned disk or on the EXT3 partitioned one
[08:40] <iceman> scguy318, you know this software,does that mean, that you are not native speaker
[08:41] <smackywolf> unop: also, gparted doesn't see it either.
[08:41] <LL00> ehlo
[08:41] <scguy318> iceman: I am a native speaker, but I know what it is because I have seen advertisements for it
[08:41] <dn4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KZWoGX1cb8  <--- How do I watch this?
[08:41] <Gpalco> I get this message when trying to enable Compiz Desktop Effects : "Composit extention is not available" What does it mean? Isn't Compiz installed by default ??? I use an ATI video - is it the problem?
[08:41] <unop> smackywolf, errn, unpartitioned space on a ntfs partition? doesn't seem to make sense :)
[08:41] <scguy318> Gpalco: ATI is a problem :P you probably want to fiddle with XGL
[08:42] <scguy318> iceman: I wish I wasn't a native speaker, my command in my other language isn't as great as in English
[08:42] <smackywolf> unop: one disk has an NTFS part and free space, the other has the same but with EXT3
[08:42] <smackywolf> it's not seeing any of the free space
[08:43] <iceman> scguy318, is it good,or did you hear someone used it,got progress?and most important,is it free?
[08:43] <Gpalco> scguy318, thank you. so just wait for a new driver release ?
[08:43] <unop> smackywolf, so does the paritioner report the first parition as taking up all the space on the disk ?
[08:43] <smackywolf> yep
[08:43] <Jaggz-> I'm a bit confused.  My grub install worked.. but when I boot it seems like grub uses the bios' recognition of drives instead of Linux' recognition
[08:43] <smackywolf> there's two disks. it's doing the same to both
[08:43] <scguy318> Gpalco: well, not that, you'll have to install XGL and do other things
[08:43] <scguy318> !xgl | Gpalco
[08:43] <ubotu> Gpalco: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:43] <Jaggz-> first off.. is this true?  (I think it is)
[08:43] <scguy318> Gpalco: something like that
[08:43] <unop> smackywolf, I'd report a bug if i were you -- and use something else in the meantime to partition the disks
[08:43] <genewitch> iceman rosetta is language learning software. they teach you a language like you're a kid learning it for the first time. meaning very little translation to your native language. it's quite awesome.
[08:44] <LL00> how I can make maildir/ for ldap with virtual user accounts? right now it's mbox
[08:44] <smackywolf> unop: cool. thanks. I was wondering if anyone had seen it
[08:44] <scguy318> iceman: I hear it's a good program, though you shouldn't take me as the final word, it is unfortunately not free, though there are demo distributions
[08:44] <Gpalco> scguy318, thank you. got it now
[08:44] <g011um> Hi !
[08:44] <unop> smackywolf, to be honest .. i dont like the partitioner and setup on the live CD -- could be much better
[08:44] <LL00> with local database and virtual users it's maildir
[08:44] <scguy318> Gpalco: ATI needs to shape up else everyone will defect to NVIDIA :P
[08:44] <LL00> damn
[08:44] <pajamian> smackywolf: are you seeing a different amount of formatted space in windows than you see in the partition editor?
[08:45] <LL00> wrong chan
[08:45] <LL00> :)
[08:45] <smackywolf> unop: eh, it's ok. i miss the old curses debian installer
[08:45] <scguy318> genewitch: I'm presuming iceman's native language is Chinese via his whois
[08:45] <unop> smackywolf, you got the alternate CD for that
[08:45] <pajamian> smackywolf: try the alternate install CD, then
[08:45] <g011um> Do you know how to clean printing head for a canon i560 printer ? is ther a generic tools ?
[08:45] <smackywolf> pajamian: nope. partition magic can see the unformatted stuff. but the parted part can't/
[08:45] <genewitch> canon... call them they'll tell you
[08:46] <smackywolf> pajamian: it's like the unpartitioned areas don't exist
[08:46] <Gpalco> Can OpenOffice.org database of words autocompletion be backed up and imported into new Ubuntu install so long words completion options would be automatically offered when typing. I love this feature, but it starts all over with each reinstall/ Please....
[08:46] <g011um> LoL
[08:46] <Qrawl> !php
[08:46] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:46] <genewitch> g011um it's different for every printer, but there's a key combination you hold down to get a hardware clean and reset
[08:46] <monkeeofdoom> channel
[08:46] <pajamian> ok, so that partitioned areas are showing the correct amount of space?
[08:46] <scguy318> g011um: on Windows I know you'd fire up their little printer maintenance tool then initiate cleaning, but on Linux i dunno
[08:46] <smackywolf> pajamian: yup. the partitioned space, at least.
[08:46] <unop> smackywolf, partition magic does funny things that some other partitoners can't deal with -- did you setup intitial partitions with PM?
[08:46] <pajamian> smackywolf: how many partitions do you have on the drive currently?
[08:46] <monkeeofdoom> channel #zero
[08:46] <scguy318> unop: oh god Partition Magic :)
[08:46] <smackywolf> unop: nope, i tried PM after this wouldn't work
[08:47] <monkeeofdoom> partition magic
[08:47] <unop> scguy318, you can "oh god" again :)
[08:47] <g011um> yep in fact the only way i found is to use turbo print only for these maintenance tasks
[08:47] <monkeeofdoom> ping g0llum
[08:47] <g011um> so no command line tool ?
[08:47] <smackywolf> pajamian: there's two drives. one partition on each with free space remaining, unpartitioned. there's no hardware problem, at least that SMART can see
[08:47] <genewitch> g011um i am thinking of epson, not canon. did you check the user guide on canon.com?
[08:48] <genewitch> smackywolf there's generally a small amount of unpartitioned space left over (on the magnitude of megabytes)
[08:48] <g011um> yes.  for epson there is a tools include in kde... but not for canon :(
[08:48] <smackywolf> plus, i've tried with kubuntu, ubuntu, and mythbuntu of the current 7.10. all the same
[08:48] <napster^> hello, how to share files by networking? I can ping them, but can't trade(exchange) files
[08:48] <pajamian> ok, then not what I was thinking.
[08:48] <smackywolf> genewitch: yeah. in this case, it's not small. it's 30 gig and 20 gig respectively
[08:48] <unop> smackywolf, tried anything else other than 7.10? maybe even a different distro?
[08:48] <genewitch> smackywolf are you trying to not lose data on the partitions?
[08:49] <coolbhavi> often a song tends to get "stuck" on  totem movie player and i'm not able to turn it off, unless i shut off the entire computer. Is there another appropriate way to handle this problem?
[08:49] <smackywolf> unop: anything not debbased doesn't like this machine, other than suse.
[08:49] <unop> smackywolf, actually -- what does fdisk -l from the live CD report?
[08:49] <scguy318> napster^: you could do it client-server way and have one server run an sshd, or you could use Samba or NFS
[08:49] <smackywolf> genewitch: yup. i'm considering wiping the windows partion
[08:49] <scguy318> !samba | napster^
[08:49] <bullgard4> file:///usr/share/doc/hal-doc/spec/hal-spec.html#ov_halarch : How can I determine the filenames of my 'Device Information Files'? I believe that /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/ does not contain all necessary 'Device Information Files'.
[08:49] <ubotu> napster^: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[08:49] <smackywolf> unop: nothing.
[08:49] <scguy318> smackywolf: prefix with sudo
[08:50] <unop> smackywolf, aye, sudo that
[08:50] <genewitch> sudo make me_a_sandwich
[08:50] <unop> bullgard4, have you tried that gnomevfs command without prefixing sudo?
[08:50] <smackywolf> reports the correct amount of on primary disk, thought the end block seems a little off
[08:51] <scguy318> genewitch: I guess we both read xkcd :P
[08:51] <napster^> got dc ;(
[08:51] <smackywolf> of the partition, i mean
[08:51] <scguy318> !samba | napster^
[08:51] <ubotu> napster^: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[08:51] <bullgard4> unop: (Did you change your nick?) Let me see. It will take me some minutes.
[08:51] <scguy318> napster^: or NFS
[08:51] <jhend60> i installed kubuntu
[08:51] <jhend60> but now im in tty 5 mode
[08:51] <jhend60> how do i change back to normal
[08:52] <unop> bullgard4, yea, i'm having big problems with freenode today -- repeated disconnect()s
[08:52] <pajamian> smackywolf: you can always wipe and re-create your partition table.  If you do it right you shouldn't loose any data, though that is a very dangerous operation data-wise.
[08:52] <Jaggz-> why do I want to spend time getting my system to boot into linux when I have my server, already in linux, right next to me and I can just ssh into it and get work done?
[08:52] <scguy318> jhend60: X runs on tty5, what do you mean?
[08:52] <mavi-> jhend60: ctrl-alt-F7
[08:52] <iceman> scguy318, you do not need to ,i have said that before,did not i
[08:52] <genewitch> I learned today that my laptop cannot boot off a flash drive :-)
[08:52] <jhend60> ok i will try it
[08:52] <smackywolf> pajamian: that sounds a little daunting. i've never wiped and restored data before o.o
[08:52] <scguy318> jhend60: i stand corrected
[08:52] <jhend60> i mean its a console now i want GUI again
[08:52] <napster^> thanks guys, I'll try that
[08:52] <scguy318> iceman: ?
[08:52] <arjuna> my dvd drive is not recognizing my dvd rw cds. it just let the light on for a long time!! what's wrong?
[08:52] <regius> hi is it possible to change the order nautilus download files? If I have a folder with 10 files named 1-10, nautilus start with 10
[08:52] <genewitch> jhend60 alt ctrl f7
[08:52] <smackywolf> jhend60: try ctl+alt+F7
[08:52] <mavi-> jhend60: ctrl-alt-F<what console you want to, 7 is graphics>
[08:53] <unop> smackywolf, any possibility of !pastebin-ing the output of fdisk -l?
[08:53] <scguy318> iceman: oh, I must have missed that, this is a busy channel
[08:53] <jhend60> ok thanks
[08:53] <smackywolf> unop: sure, this room got one?
[08:53] <jhend60> but TEXT IS HUGE NOW
[08:53] <Jaggz-> 7 is usually where X is
[08:53] <iceman> scguy318, you presume i said english
[08:53] <unop> !paste | smackywolf
[08:53] <ubotu> smackywolf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <Jaggz-> is there still an svgatextmode?
[08:53] <mavi-> Jaggz-: yeah
[08:53] <Jaggz-> cool
[08:53] <Jaggz-> not much like good ol' console.
[08:53] <BetaTest> Where is the installation path of Mozilla?
[08:54] <scguy318> iceman: for what?
[08:54] <jhend60> now it is all black with a flashing line
[08:54] <genewitch> iceman: rosetta software will allow you to learn many languages as if you were born in that country as a kid
[08:54] <Jaggz-> BetaTest: dpkg -L name_of_package_to_list_install_files
[08:54] <Jaggz-> okay.. I'm off to focus on me work!
[08:54] <scguy318> iceman: ooh, my mistake
[08:54] <Jaggz-> peace love and humptiness
[08:54] <genewitch> Jaggz- have fun
[08:54] <Jaggz-> don't log that forever please
[08:54] <pajamian> hrmmmm, it looks like desertc went AFK, anyone else care to take a crack at helping me with my problem?
[08:54] <jhend60> ctrl alt F7 doesnt work ps i have kubuntu
[08:54] <Jaggz-> as I'm really not sure what it means
[08:54] <genewitch> pajamian what is it?
[08:54] <jibwn> Does anyone have a link to a guide on how to encrypt an entire drive with truecrypt and use ext3?
[08:55] <genewitch> Jaggz- logging isn;t allowed on this network anyhow
[08:55] <Jaggz-> jhend, alt-f7?
[08:55] <BetaTest> Jaggz-: BetaTest: dpkg -L name_of_package_to_list_install_files | Can you explain that? o.O
[08:55] <pajamian> genewitch: I'll pull it up, one min ...
[08:55] <smackywolf> pastebin- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53279/
[08:55] <unop> BetaTest, at a terminal -- dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[08:55] <genewitch> pajamian just the general problem, so i can say if i can help :-)
[08:55] <Jaggz-> Beta, like.. dpkg -l '*firefox*'  see name of package you want, then dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[08:55] <BetaTest> Ah, thank you
[08:55] <Jaggz-> I've been using linux for 14 yearses!
[08:56] <genewitch> you got 4 years on me, jaggz
[08:56] <genewitch> actually, 6, i started in BSD
[08:56] <iceman> genewitch, i see that you strongly recommend that thing, so i will google it,thank you
[08:56] <pajamian> yep, I'm just pulling it from my keyboard history rather than re-typing it...
[08:56] <genewitch> iceman i learned japanese using it (nihongo text, though)
[08:56] <bullgard1> unop: "gnomevfs-copy smb://md97600/freigegebenMD /home/detlef; Failed to copy smb://md97600/freigegebenMD to /home/detlef; Reason: Access denied"
[08:56] <smackywolf> well, gparted made something slightly better. i resized one drives parition (the windows one) and now i'm just missing about 6 gig
[08:56] <Jaggz-> jhend, usually alt-f# changes console.. alt-f7 is usually where X is.  within X you usually need ctrl-alt-F# to view one of the text consoles.
[08:56] <pajamian> ok, I'm still having problems ... here's what's happening ... I've installed ubuntu gutsy and it boots up fine, then I run the upgrades and it freezes with a blank screen after logging in (blank is background color with mouse pointer that can be moved) so I think one of the packages that was upgraded is causing problems.  Is there a way I can "downgrade" all those packages back to the base version without having to re-install ubuntu aga
[08:56] <pajamian> in?  Then I can experiment with a divide and conquor approach to find out which package is causing the problem?
[08:56] <Jaggz-> well, you have bsd experience over me :)
[08:57] <Jaggz-> I started in QNX several years before linux, actually.. but I didn't do any admin work so I really didn't learn anything (it was at my work)
[08:57] <mavi-> Jaggz-: did you start with rh4.2 to? =)
[08:57] <Jaggz-> no, slackware
[08:57] <genewitch> pajamian one second
[08:57] <Jaggz-> I don't think rh was around when I started linux
[08:57] <pajamian> ok
[08:57] <pajamian> I started with RH5.2, I think
[08:57] <mavi-> sure was
[08:58] <mavi-> RH was earlier then slack iirc
[08:58] <unop> bullgard1, you sure you got the right permissions on the share \\md97600\freigegebenMD
[08:58] <unop> ?
[08:58] <smackywolf> oh hey, and i think PM might be the culprit here. only problem is how to fix it. i get unrecognised disk label errors from gparted when I run it from cl
[08:58] <Jaggz-> what's up with logging into grub and cat /etc/shadow?
[08:58] <scguy318> Jaggz-: worked with embedded real-time stuff?
[08:58] <smackywolf> which is odd, seeing as the problem was around before PM
[08:59] <Jaggz-> scguy, no.. multi-line bbs in L.A.
[08:59] <unop> bullgard1, i don't see "access denied" being applicable to your $HOME dir .. have you tried smbmount/smbget to trouble shoot this?
[08:59] <genewitch> pajamian upon cursory inspection, it appears that flyback et al are your best choice
[08:59] <scguy318> Jaggz-: interesting
[08:59] <genewitch> but nothing doing about reverting installed packages
[08:59] <pajamian> flyback?
[08:59] <unop> smackywolf, how big is the parition at /dev/sda1 ?
[09:00] <genewitch> pajamian if it's an x issue, try getting the xorg package that everyone spams in here... anyone know it? the one that resets your xorg.conf?
[09:00] <Jaggz-> mavi, I have some RH systems still, to this day.. but they're being replaced .. well.. not really -- I'm chatting :)
[09:00] <lxuser> ceck connection
[09:00] <genewitch> pajamian http://code.google.com/p/flyback/
[09:00] <bullgard1> unop: No, I am not sure. Because I do not know how do you define "the right permissions". The file 'config' which I am trying to access, has the mode 0644.
[09:00] <smackywolf> unop: i guess you mean hda1/
[09:00] <unop> smackywolf, aye,. sorry
[09:00] <Jaggz-> I installed this ext-fs program in windows, and thus far it's wonderful
[09:01] <genewitch> unop just disclosed he has too much money.
[09:01] <Jaggz-> went in, in XP, and edited my grub.lst :)
[09:01] <Jaggz-> okay.. well I'm going to go.. gotta work on this stuff
[09:01] <smackywolf> unop: atm, something like 63.50, there's a second partition now that's 11.03
[09:01] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: that dirty hack can break things
[09:01] <smackywolf> it's useful though
[09:01] <Jaggz-> uhoh
[09:01] <genewitch> knoppix can do the same thing, can't it?
[09:01] <genewitch> Jaggz-
[09:01] <Jaggz-> ta ta gene
[09:02] <Jaggz-> scguy, before I go.. do you work with embedded systems?
[09:02] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: it can break things, but i've been using it about a year with one minor issue in that time which was simple to resolve. so don't stress too much
[09:02] <Jaggz-> thanks :)
[09:02] <unop> bullgard1, shared folders can have share-level (smb) permissions + whatever permissions are set on the filesystem (by ntfs, extx, etc) .. you should see if that shared folder is freely accessible first
[09:02] <pajamian> genewitch: any chance of possibly being able to troubleshoot the problem from the other end?  desertc was gonna have a look at my messages log to see if anything jumped out.
[09:02] <unop> genewitch, how did i disclose my financial status here eh? :>
[09:02] <Jaggz-> I'd like this ventilator company to provide options to vary the rate of breathing
[09:02] <genewitch> smackywolf Jaggz-: i'd imagine screwing with NTFS in linux is a lot more dangerous than screwing with ext3 in windows
[09:03] <GeorgeA> Themes doesn't exist in my System menu, how can i get it?
[09:03] <smackywolf> genewitch: *shrugs* tool was made by OSS devs. so it's not much different
[09:03] <genewitch> guys, what's the apt-get command to reset xorg?
[09:03] <bullgard1> unop: I need to inform myself about smbmount/smbget before I can answer your question. But please note: File transfer works all right in the opposite direction without my deeper knowledge of smbmount/smbget.
[09:03] <unop> smackywolf, from what i can see, you have some free-space at the end of the disk -- it just doesn't show up in the paritioner because a parition hasn't yet been defined
[09:03] <Jaggz-> gene, there's some positive thing to learn about privacy of your own internal workings.. but I'm not sure what it is.
[09:03] <smackywolf> unop: technically it should show as free space, hrm?
[09:03] <RobotGuy> !faq
[09:03] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[09:04] <genewitch> smackywolf no, if it hasn't been actively partitioned it won;t
[09:04] <smackywolf> unop: oh, wai. nevermind
[09:04]  * smackywolf nods to genewitch
[09:04] <Jaggz-> I guess people don't rely on my private things right?
[09:04] <GeorgeA> nvm it's "appearance" :|
[09:04] <smackywolf> well, what's a good tool to fix that with? fsck doesn't want to know about it
[09:04] <Jaggz-> is there an irc network that automatically msg's you spelling corrections?
[09:04] <Jaggz-> I mean.. I don't need it myself.  ;}
[09:04] <genewitch> pajamian i'd be willing to lay money on it being an xorg.conf issue. i'd love to help you, but i am trying to get drunk. logs are not conducive to that activity
[09:05] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: not that i know of. but some clients (like xchat) can have spelling checkers
[09:05] <genewitch> so so sorry. :-(
[09:05] <genewitch> Jaggz- write one :-)
[09:05] <Jaggz-> heh
[09:05] <pajamian> LoL, ok genewitch, thanks anyways
[09:05] <Jaggz-> I'd love to get into AI but I never have
[09:05] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: you can test it on my irc network XD
[09:05] <bullgard1> unop: My remote smb.conf file includes a line "read only = no".
[09:05] <Jaggz-> were I to do something I'd want it to be more than simple spell checking
[09:05] <Jaggz-> I'm not sure why we don't have AI bots all over irc
[09:06] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: like destroy the world?
[09:06] <napster^> I have xitrix mini-frame(originally installed with ubuntu) computers and, Some in bios hard disk can be detected, while others can't. Now, when hard disk can be detected WinXP can be installed, if not Windows cannot continue.
[09:06] <genewitch> Jaggz- it wouldn't be AI, it'd be simple search and run a macro. but it'd invade privacy a bit
[09:06] <pajamian> maybe what I need to do is install again and make a copy of my xorg.conf before upgrading
[09:06] <smackywolf> Jaggz-: because they are annoying and people abuse them
[09:06] <Jaggz-> well.. the spelling one would be standard (however standard spell checking works)..
[09:06] <RobotGuy> What package do I need to install so I can "make xconfig" for kernels?
[09:06] <smackywolf> pajamian: just look around in your xorg directory. you may find there's automatically backup copies
[09:06] <Jaggz-> levenshtein distance?
[09:06] <pajamian> actually, I bet the package that changed it may have made a copy
[09:06] <pajamian> yep
[09:06] <jhend60> ok i fixed the prob i set the bits to 32 manually
[09:06] <un0p> smackywolf, did you get my last posts?
[09:07] <jhend60> that was my problem
[09:07] <Jaggz-> they should be better than levenshtein (that's the only one I've had any experience with :)
[09:07] <genewitch> Jaggz- a program loads a hastable with all the properly spelled words and compares each block of text to the hashtable, if there's any mismatches, you'd trigger a /msg to the user
[09:07] <smackywolf> un0p: nope. if they were pm'd i'm not reg'd
[09:07] <genewitch> Jaggz- i could write a bot in java in about 40 minutes
[09:07] <un0p> smackywolf, well, that would depend on the partitioner (i guess) and/or it's implementation
[09:07] <un0p> smackywolf, i'd try creating a new partition with fdisk if i were you
[09:07] <Jaggz-> gene, cool.. make them correct it themselves :)
[09:07] <un0p> bullgard1, share access (smb/cifs atleast) works only unidirectionally -- if you can access a remote share freely, it doesn't mean the same is true vice-versa
[09:07] <Jaggz-> TransWorldIRC: Chat in any language
[09:07] <Smacky_Wolf> un0p: sounds like a plan. but fdisk won't touch my other disk at all
[09:07] <genewitch> pajamian you chasing a rabbit now (bug)?
[09:08] <Smacky_Wolf> pajamian: take a dive around /etc/X11/
[09:08] <un0p> Smacky_Wolf, not unless you intentionally delete the partition
[09:08] <Jaggz-> tell me, what should you do before you give someone an idea?
[09:08] <pajamian> who knows, I'm just praying it's not hardware, I've already replaced the HDD and RAM on this bos.
[09:08] <genewitch> smacky try doing a knoppix-std boot or something and see if you can't at least back it up before repartitioning
[09:08] <napster^> I have xitrix mini-frame(originally installed with ubuntu) computers and, Some in bios hard disk can be detected, while others can't. Now, when hard disk can be detected WinXP can be installed, if not Windows cannot continue.
[09:08] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: I'm looking, only 1 file resembling xorg.conf in there
[09:08] <pajamian> and that's xorg.conf
[09:08] <Smacky_Wolf> genewitch: there's windows on there already.
[09:08] <Jaggz-> like, they stole my car-brake energy reclamation idea -- putting the energy of braking into battery storage
[09:09] <Smacky_Wolf> pajamian: awh. fail x.x. nothing like 12.3.07xorg?
[09:09] <un0p> napster^, that's a question to ask in ##windows
[09:09] <jhend60> an1 no how to fix huge text on login screen on kubuntu?
[09:09] <genewitch> jhend60 after you log in does it look normal?
[09:09] <jhend60> yes
[09:09] <rne1224> hello
[09:09] <jhend60> just logon screen(KDM)
[09:09] <Jaggz-> (which would, I imagine, lessen the load of the alternator and thereby indirectly saving fuel)  Or in the case of electric vehicles the return is obvious.
[09:09] <rne1224> I have a problem
[09:10] <Smacky_Wolf> pajamian: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg - may fix your issues. it'll take you to the curse based conf thingy
[09:10] <rne1224> I was wandering where can I install the latest drivers for Intel 945
[09:10] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53280/
[09:10] <rne1224> I want to run crystal space
[09:10] <rne1224> but it seems to be a driver issue
[09:10] <rne1224> that I can solve
[09:10] <jhend60> rne1224
[09:11] <rne1224> yeah
[09:11] <jhend60> get xorg video server thing
[09:11] <jhend60> it has the drivers for that series
[09:11] <jhend60> i just got it
[09:11] <Jaggz-> gene, thanks for sharing the spelling-error finder method.. so simple.
[09:11] <jhend60> ill get link
[09:11] <genewitch> !enter
[09:11] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:11] <genewitch> jhend60 :-p
[09:11] <Jaggz-> how many buckets would you use??
[09:11] <rne1224> jhend60: thanks ....let me try that
[09:11] <genewitch> Jaggz- buckets? you mean hashtables?
[09:11] <Jaggz-> is, perhaps, some type of tree even more efficient?
[09:11] <Jaggz-> how many buckets in the hash table
[09:12] <bullgard1> un0p: I know that the file transfer is unilateral. But I have set up my Samba in the LAN without any reference to smbmount and smbget, and it works in one direction. I have told you the relevant smb.conf's attribute.  --  man smbmout: "smbmount is deprecated and not maintained any longer." Why do you recommend it to me?
[09:12] <jhend60> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[09:12] <Jaggz-> perhaps a percentage of the total vocabulary count
[09:12] <genewitch> Jaggz- for the dictionaries i've used, java can do a full hashtable search in about .03 seconds
[09:12] <BetaTest> !vmware
[09:12] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[09:12] <genewitch> If you code it in C, you'd get it in about a tenth of that
[09:12] <rne1224> jhend60: thanks so much...you save me from dual booting into windows
[09:12] <rne1224> :)
[09:12] <Jaggz-> yeah, I'd be doing it in C
[09:13] <knight__> hi
[09:13] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: ok, I ran that and am now rebooting...
[09:13] <rne1224> jhend60: do you run crystal space?
[09:13] <knight__> guys
[09:13] <jhend60> i am a noob...
[09:13] <un0p> bullgard1, just as a means of troubleshooting, thats all -- if you can access the remote share and copy files locally with smbmount/smbget, then you can rule out errors with the network and permissions
[09:13] <knight__> i need ur help
[09:14] <rne1224> jhend60: what kind of card are you using?
[09:14] <jhend60> Whats crystal space? i just downloaded kubuntu off their site
[09:14] <jhend60> Intel 915M
[09:14] <jhend60> mobile
[09:14] <rekon> !grub
[09:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:14] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: no dice, still same problem :-(
[09:14] <jhend60> just got xorg video drivers for intel
[09:14] <rne1224> ok...thanks
[09:15] <erUSUL> jhend60: crystal space is a 3d game engine
[09:15] <jhend60> oh
[09:15] <rne1224> is cool...
[09:15] <jhend60> well i probably dont have it
[09:15] <jhend60> ill try ctrl alt numpad key
[09:15] <Ademan> hey is there a way to get a "cleaner" list of the packages you have installed than dpkg -l ?
[09:16] <genewitch> GREP IS YOUR FRIEND
[09:16] <jhend60> grep?
[09:16] <jhend60> iam new to all this and i use kubuntu
[09:16] <Ademan> mmm grep
[09:16] <napster^> I have xitrix mini-frame(originally installed with ubuntu) computers and, Some in bios hard disk can be detected, while others can't. Now, when hard disk can be detected WinXP can be installed, if not Windows cannot continue.
[09:16] <Ademan> jhend60: it's a command line tool to search for text *basically*
[09:16] <genewitch> oh. i forget sometimes that you new people like graphics. i have no clue how to show you what programs you have installed
[09:16] <rne1224> so...is anyone out there that is running crystal space in Gutsy with Intel 945
[09:16] <rne1224> ?
[09:16] <genewitch> jhend60 add/remove programs, click the radio button that says "installed"
[09:17] <genewitch> rather than available or all
[09:17] <Slart> Ademan: I think  you can get a list of installed packages from synaptic
[09:17] <BetaTest> How do I see the Kernel I'm using?
[09:17] <pajamian> heh, windoze "converts"
[09:17] <un0p> Ademan, dpkg -l | cut -c 3-20 | grep -i keyword
[09:17] <Smacky_Wolf> pajamian: suck x.x try apt-get remove xorg --purge or some such?
[09:17] <Slart> BetaTest: lsb_release -a, or uname -a
[09:17] <Ademan> uname -a will get you it, and more
[09:17] <BetaTest> Many thanks
[09:18]  * Smacky_Wolf isn't really sure, had to mess around with xorg for ages in the early days, and then confing it got reallly easy
[09:18] <pajamian> ummmm, ok, then install it again, I guess?
[09:18]  * Smacky_Wolf nods
[09:18] <Smacky_Wolf> but purge
[09:18] <rne1224> so...is anyone out there that is running crystal space in Gutsy with Intel 94
[09:18] <genewitch> un0p i knew you'd know, somehow
[09:18] <Slart> BetaTest: sorry.. lsb_release doesn't say what kernel you're using.. uname -a will though
[09:18] <pajamian> I suppose I can comment out the updates repos in the sources.list to get the older version from the CD too.
[09:18] <Smacky_Wolf> pajamian: purge, just in case you don't know, will kill conf files. and recreate them
[09:18] <un0p> genewitch, know what eh? :)
[09:18] <Ademan> un0p: lol, thanks, i was looking to avoid all that crap, i cobbled together a solution using awk, but i was wondering if there was an *easy* way, mostly because dpkg -l piles a bunch of crapola at the beggining (a bunch of pipes and slashes and stuff to "dress it up" i guess)
[09:18] <Smacky_Wolf> when you reinstall
[09:19] <genewitch> you'd know how to use grep. you seem like an oldschooler
[09:19] <rne1224> so...is anyone out there that is running crystal space in Gutsy with Intel 945?...please help
[09:19] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: ok
[09:19] <Slart> rne1224: wait a couple of minutes before repeating.. people get annoyed if you spam to much
[09:19] <Smacky_Wolf> genewitch: i can grep and am not an oldschooler o.o
[09:19] <rne1224> sorry
[09:19] <genewitch> pajamian if there's something more i can do for you query me, i have a hard time backtracing the channel text
[09:20] <pajamian> genewitch: ok, thanks
[09:20] <Smacky_Wolf> unop: did I miss anything from yo? i'm in my regged nick now, if you want to PM
[09:20] <Ademan> un0p: just for the record, i discovered dpkg-query (which i think dpkg just backends to anyways) but there's a --showformat option that i can use to define the output format :-)
[09:20] <rne1224> by the way I wasn't spaming, but it won't happen again
[09:20] <genewitch> that goes for everyone, if i said i could help and i'm not responding query me
[09:20] <un0p> Smacky_Wolf, errm, i dont think i posted anything to you since last :)
[09:21] <Smacky_Wolf> un0p: cool. thanks for the assist =)
[09:21] <un0p> Ademan, there's also apt-show-versions
[09:21] <Slart> rne1224: hehe.. I was using spamming in a broad meaning
[09:21] <Smacky_Wolf> and to you other guys, too
[09:21] <rne1224> cool
[09:21] <rne1224> no problems :)
[09:21] <un0p> Smacky_Wolf, yw
[09:22]  * Smacky_Wolf goes digging to see if he can find a knoppix iso
[09:22] <bullgard1> un0p: The syntax of smbmount is "smbmount {service} {mount-point} [-o options]" What do I have to insert for '{service}'?
[09:22] <pajamian> ok, rebooting again ...
[09:23] <Slart> bullgard1: I think that's the share name
[09:23] <Slart> bullgard1: or.. wait.. perhaps not.. nevermind
[09:25] <genewitch> Smacky_Wolf i recommend knoppix-std
[09:25] <Smacky_Wolf> genewitch: i have V5 apparantly
[09:25] <Slart> bullgard1: here's an example smbmount //server/share /localdir -o username=user,password=pass,uid=500,gid=500
[09:25] <pajamian> Smacky_Wolf: nope, same thing still
[09:26] <un0p> bullgard1, you can accomplish something similar like this -- sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=pass //host/share /media/mountpoint
[09:26] <genewitch> un0p i've never had luck with that particular command, but i know that's correct... haven't had to use it in years
[09:26] <GeorgeA> how can I see which program is using which port?
[09:27] <un0p> genewitch, yep, doesn't fuse help your poor brain from trying to remember which switch to which command and avoid going through manpages and such :)
[09:27] <genewitch> un0p i just clicked "network" in the places menu and it came up
[09:28] <genewitch> GeorgeA type "netstat" in a terminal window
[09:28] <un0p> genewitch, wait till you come across a desktop that does have a GUI or better, doesn't have "network places" :)
[09:28] <GeorgeA> genewitch, thanks
[09:29] <genewitch> GeorgeA that might not be what you're looking for... i'm trying to remember the local packet sniffer i used to use
[09:30] <genewitch> GeorgeA let me know if that's what you want, if not i can recommend a few other programs
[09:30] <bullgard1> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31423/ This result is not different from the other two methods.
[09:30] <napster^> if my unit doesn't have samba in it, where can i download samba?
[09:30] <GeorgeA> genewitch, what I want is a program that lets me know which program is using port X, because am trying to run shoutcast and it's telling me the port is being used, i want to know what's using it so i can close it
[09:31] <genewitch> port 5800 is in use?
[09:31] <GeorgeA> 8000
[09:31] <un0p> bullgard1, you'll need to supply a username and password there -- refer to my last post to you for a howto
[09:31] <GeorgeA> is the one shoutcast runs off of
[09:32] <genewitch> GeorgeA there's no way to tell without having data being run through it
[09:32] <crwlr> i think bullgard1's servers are crashing!!!
[09:32] <genewitch> 8000 is an alternate web server port though
[09:32] <GeorgeA> genewitch, lsof -i did the trick
[09:33] <genewitch> GeorgeA cool, i'll write that down. what was the offending program?
[09:33] <genewitch> split!
[09:33] <GeorgeA> genewitch, apparently it was already running lol, but it was showing in my ps aux, which is weird.
[09:33] <un0p> jeez
[09:33] <crwlr> WHOA!  SPAMMERS!!!
[09:33] <GeorgeA> crwlr, netsplit
[09:34] <crwlr> georgea: netsplit?  like a banana split?
[09:34] <GeorgeA> genewitch, it's fine now, i restarted it :)
[09:34] <GeorgeA> crwlr, true story
[09:34] <dgjones> !netsplit | crwlr
[09:34] <ubotu> crwlr: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:34] <genewitch> crwlr slightly less delicious than a banana split
[09:34] <genewitch> that was lsof -l?
[09:35] <GeorgeA> -i
[09:35] <genewitch> i don't have lsof :-(
[09:35] <crwlr> well i'm ready for a banana split!  makin myself hungry...   sudo mkme bananasplitwithicecream
[09:35] <genewitch> su maybe
[09:35] <napster^> If my unit doesn't have samba in it, where can i download samba?
[09:35] <GeorgeA> nope I didn't need to.
[09:35] <genewitch> napster rpmfind.net
[09:35] <genewitch> my laptop is running fedora
[09:35] <genewitch> >.<
[09:35] <napster^> how?
[09:35] <dgjones> !samba | napster^
[09:35] <ubotu> napster^: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[09:36] <genewitch> napster^ http://rpmfind.net
[09:36] <dgjones> napster^, samba is available in synaptic
[09:36] <dgjones> !rpm | genewitch
[09:36] <ubotu> genewitch: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:36] <napster^> dgjones: I'm already there.
[09:36] <GeorgeA> genewitch, ah :) heh
[09:36] <napster^> genewitch: will try that.
[09:36] <genewitch> napster^ evidently it's in synaptic... add/remove programs and toss it in
[09:37] <bullgard1> un0p: Adding -o and username and password still results in the same Access denied response.
[09:37] <GeorgeA> genewitch, could the sniffer u used be: nmap?
[09:37] <genewitch> bullgard1 can you connect to the share from another windows machine
[09:37] <genewitch> GeorgeA nosir, it's one that's been ported to windows, though. it's on ym laptop's windows drive. ettercap will also work though
[09:37] <genewitch> although ettercap is a lot more greyhat than the one i am thinking of
[09:38] <GeorgeA> genewitch, wireshark?
[09:38] <genewitch> GeorgeA could be :-)
[09:38] <GeorgeA> hehe
[09:38] <bullgard1> genewitch: Not at the moment. My LAN consists at the moment of two laptops only and a router to ADSL.
[09:38] <crwlr> for what, georgea?
[09:38] <un0p> bullgard1, if you are positive that you have the correct syntax for the commands you are using there -- then there's a definite problem with how your shared folder //md97600/freigegebenMD is setup -- very tight permissions or no user probably
[09:38] <genewitch> bullgard1 or it could be a program blocking port 135/139
[09:39] <GeorgeA> crwlr, I just wanted to see which program is running on which port (lsof -i did the trick).. but now we're talking about sniffers
[09:39] <genewitch> lots of stupid consumer firewalls block those ports for no good reason
[09:39] <Ssam> i dont noe hwo to use my scanner
[09:39] <Ssam> how* can anyone help me
[09:39] <pajamian> ok, gonna have to just re-install and go from there, heh, I can't see any other way about it.
[09:39] <bullgard1> genewitch: How can I determine what prgram blocks port 135/139?
[09:39] <kahrytan> Anyone know the VGA code for Grub for 1440x900 resolution?
[09:39] <crwlr> ahh...i use a different OS for that.  trying to remember the name of it...
[09:39] <genewitch> bullgard1 what OS is on the machine you're trying to get files from? windows xp?
[09:40] <genewitch> Knoppix-std, crwlr
[09:40] <bullgard1> genewitch: Both machines run with Ubuntu 7.10
[09:40] <Slart> kahrytan: google for vga display mode or something like that.. there are lists out there
[09:40] <crwlr> no....genewitch...i cant think of it.  hang on, let me look at my cd
[09:40] <genewitch> un0p isn't there a better way than samba for two linux machins to share?
[09:40] <pewpewpew> kahrytan: Mode 0x0365: 1440x900 (+5760), 24 bits
[09:40] <dgjones> genewitch, i use nfs for between linux machines
[09:41] <genewitch> bull do you have BOTH samba servers running?
[09:41] <Slart> genewitch: nfs or ssh both work... nfs has some security concerns though
[09:41] <genewitch> NMBD and SMBD?
[09:41] <kahrytan> pewpewpew➲ so vga=0x0365?
[09:41] <un0p> genewitch, I don't consider anything better or worse off -- nfs is an alternative
[09:41] <crwlr> backtrack 2    genewitch georgea
[09:41] <pewpewpew> kahrytan: i think so
[09:41] <genewitch> crwlr i'm reading
[09:42] <crwlr> there's another one but i'd have to get the name of it and i cant find the cd
[09:42] <pewpewpew> i'm not a 100%, so if its a life or death situation don't rely on me :}
[09:43] <TheLynx> anyone here had problems restarting X with ctrl+alt+backspace? the windows are closing but the computer hangs shortly afterwards
[09:43] <crwlr> thelynx: none so far...got gutsy on there?
[09:44] <xalanthyr> hi there, anbody knows how to run EUO on ubuntu?
[09:44] <GeorgeA> crwlr, i had it.. but I'm not gonna install an OS for just one thing :P
[09:44] <TheLynx> crwlr: yep. gutsy. sadly on a hp laptop with amd64 with ATI radeon graphics
[09:44] <crwlr> georgea: i just use the livecd
[09:44] <GeorgeA> crwlr, yeah i guess livecd through a vbox would be fine :)
[09:44] <bullgard4> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31424/ doesn't set the permissions very tight, right?
[09:44] <crwlr> thelynx: i have gutsy on a laptop with a p4 and an ati chipset, and i havent had any problems
[09:45] <genewitch> that's how i run k-std, crwlr
[09:45] <Jaggz-> okay
[09:45] <Jaggz-> 7 milliseconds to look up one word
[09:45] <Jaggz-> "hello"
[09:45] <Jaggz-> with 100000 buckets
[09:45] <crwlr> georgea: i didnt use vbox for that...hmmm...course i only set it up as a nat network so it wouldn't detect my network adapter
[09:45] <genewitch> buckets?
[09:45] <genewitch> in what language, Jaggz-
[09:45] <Jaggz-> gene, hash tables store things in buckets
[09:46] <bullgard4> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31424/ doesn't set the permissions very tight, right?
[09:46] <GeorgeA> crwlr, oh right.. forgot about that.. man bridging is a pain in vbox...
[09:46] <TheLynx> crwlr: everything else works. or well.. the graphics flickers etc etc and fullscreen video is only possible using xine. this due to poor amd drivers. still a known issue I suppose
[09:46] <extern> I can't get direct rendering working on ubuntu 64. I have ATI x700 pro. When I do glxinfo | grep direct, I get a several similar errors, which look like this: libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib32/dri/r300_dri.so failed (/usr/lib32/dri/r300_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32)
[09:46] <Jaggz-> it's possible to have some other method of handling collisions, but in general they use buckets.
[09:46] <crwlr> what kind of laptop is it, thelynx?
[09:46] <genewitch> Jaggz- yeah i get it, what language
[09:46] <TheLynx> crwlr: hp 6715s
[09:46] <Jaggz-> ie. "hello" and "mumbojumbo" might hash to the same value
[09:47] <crwlr> georgea: very true.  only thing i vbox is winblows...whenever i need to
[09:47] <Jaggz-> coded this in C
[09:47] <TheLynx> crwlr: amd64, ati radeon x1250
[09:47] <crwlr> thelynx: hmm...which drivers did you install?
[09:47] <GeorgeA> crwlr, same here :)
[09:47] <genewitch> 7 ms seems slow
[09:47] <Jaggz-> used my existing library of hash tables.. I loaded /usr/share/dict/words into the hash table then timed looking up the word "hello"
[09:47] <genewitch> java's default can do it faster
[09:47] <Jaggz-> I also am using gettimeofday() to get the timing but I'm not sure how accurate it is.. this would be better off looking up multiple words
[09:47] <Ssam> anyone know how i can get my scanner to work?
[09:47] <genewitch> lemme pastebucket my source for some weird hash lookup, one second
[09:48] <Slart> Ssam: check if the scanner is supported by sane.. I think the url is www.sane.org... not sure though
[09:48] <pajamian> Ssam: what brand and model scanner?
[09:48] <crwlr> thelynx: ATI and linux go together like...nothing.  ubuntu barely supports ati, so if you installed the restricted drivers and then the effects started happenin...then u gotta remove those
[09:48] <Slart> Ssam: sorry.. http://www.sane-project.org/
[09:48] <TheLynx> crwlr: the ones from ATI. compiz works but the problem with ctrl+alt+backspace is new to me. been trying to find anything related to the problems on forums, but still confused. does this has something to do with the hibernate issue with ATI and linux?
[09:49] <crwlr> hrmmm...
[09:49] <genewitch> Jaggz- http://pastebin.com/m5f873d57
[09:49] <Jaggz-> microseconds, excuse me
[09:49] <TheLynx> crwlr: guess so. do you recommend using the open source driver?
[09:49] <GeorgeA> that's some difference Jaggz- lol :)
[09:49] <Jaggz-> did I say ms?  :)
[09:50] <Jaggz-> did you just code that up?
[09:50] <TheLynx> crwlr: can't do much with the hardware. using a laptop from work. otherwise I would returned it
[09:50] <crwlr> thelynx: i dont recommend when it comes to ati.  i had an ati in my desktop, and i got ticked off at it cause the effects wouldn't work.  so...i ditched ati and went with nvidia.  you will just have to check wikis and google variations of your problems because i'm not an expert with that
[09:50] <extern> has anyone had any problems with ATI drivers on Ubuntu 64?
[09:50] <Ssam> well i was there.....but it didnt help i dont noe how to install it its very complicated for me
[09:50] <genewitch> Jaggz- nah that's old. million monkeys pounding for a million years simulator
[09:50] <crwlr> extern: ATI and UBUNTU don't mix well
[09:51]  * genewitch is afk
[09:51] <Slart> extern: not just 64-bit.. ati takes some work, I understand
[09:51] <Jaggz-> lol
[09:51] <iceman> hi,i like this channel ,and thank jaggz,genewitch,and all other people,
[09:51] <TheLynx> crwlr: ok. thanks anyway. it's just too bad with the ATI and linux issue. never had any major hardware/driver related problems before
[09:51] <osfameron> crwlr, Slart: got any reference for that?  (I'm thinking of getting an HP S3240, which I think has an ATI graphics card... :-( )
[09:51] <Jaggz-> ./dict 100000 hello there test how are you  .....  Looked up 6 words in ms:1160
[09:51] <extern> has anyone got any useful links about ATI and ubuntu?
[09:51] <Narlzac85> has the situation with ATI not improved in the newer driver releases?
[09:51] <Jaggz-> of course, this is just some hash table implementation I got offline years ago and then modified like mad
[09:52] <extern> I had it working some time ago, but I reinstalled ubuntu recently
[09:52] <un0p> bullgard1, what happens when you try this out? smbclient //server/share
[09:52] <TheLynx> extern: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[09:52] <Jaggz-> it's faster with less buckets.. !
[09:52] <un0p> bullgard1, also - http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/FastStart.html#id327959
[09:52] <Slart> osfameron: I'm just going by the number of "ARRGGGHHSS".... and "STUPID PIECE OF S**T GRAPHICS CARD" questions we get here in this channel =)
[09:52] <crwlr> osfameron: nvidia is a breeze to setup but if you get ati, then ur going to have to fight to install it.  i would suggest getting one with nvidia.  i threw my ati card in the garbage
[09:52] <extern> thank you, I'll check it out
[09:52] <osfameron> Slart:  heh :-(
[09:53] <Slart> !ati | extern
[09:53] <ubotu> extern: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <Slart> extern: that's the only one I know of
[09:53] <iceman> Slart, where are you from
[09:53] <Jaggz-> the dictionary load-time is slower with less buckets.. with 100 buckets it takes several seconds (due to the inefficiency of adding entries to linked lists most likely)
[09:53] <Jaggz-> afk
[09:53] <Slart> iceman: Sweden, why?
[09:53] <TheLynx> yeah. that link is useful
[09:54] <iceman> curiosity
[09:54] <TheLynx> I'm from sweden too... (btw)
[09:54] <larsrohdin> Hi! We are having some troubles with our dhcp-server running on ubuntu server. We have two servers that share a scope of ip-addresses, but the clients get leases from both servers, at the same time (!). They also appaer several time in each servers lease-lists. They get the same IP from both. This creates problems for our thin clients session. Have anyone heard of this?
[09:54] <crwlr> of course, i found out they blacklisted my ati card, so maybe i am just mad about that scenario.  you all other ati users might have better luck
[09:54] <bullgard1> un0p: "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient //md97600/freigegebenMD; Password:  ; session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[09:54] <pajamian> well, the latest news as of a few months ago is that AMD is opening up the specs for ATI cards so here's hoping that we get some better drivers.
[09:55] <Slart> extern: it's not hopeless getting an ati card to work.. most people actually make it.. but it's just a little more work than nvidia or intel at the moment
[09:55] <TheLynx> pajamian: sounds like a good idea
[09:55] <extern> yeah, I had it working some time ago
[09:55] <extern> but I can't remember which guide I followed
[09:55] <Jaggz-> iceman, glad to help
[09:55] <Jaggz-> if I did
[09:56] <Slart> larsrohdin: you have 2 dhcp servers on the same net? didn't know you could do that..
[09:56] <pajamian> I would recommend intel if you're buying new, there are great OS drivers for that, but I wouldn't toss out an nvidia or ATI card that I already ahve.
[09:56] <kahrytan> Ive got question .. Does Ubuntu uSplash theme even support widescreen resolutions?
[09:56] <larsrohdin> Slart: sure, they have half the net each
[09:57] <larsrohdin> otherwise the fastest one gets the lease
[09:57] <larsrohdin> but these should get half
[09:57] <Slart> larsrohdin: just out of curiosity.. how do the dhcp servers know which clients to serve?
[09:57] <Jaggz-> bleh.. this ms timing is not accurate.. I'd need to avg this out
[09:57] <Jaggz-> anyway, I'm done for now
[09:58] <Jaggz-> I am kind of lame for writing this up :(
[09:58] <genewitch> ATI is a pain if you want to actually use your card for anything
[09:58] <Jaggz-> good fast-coding practice though
[09:58] <larsrohdin> Slart: they dont, they serve the client thate requests
[09:58] <genewitch> Jaggz- check out http://thedailywtf.com forums, they have speed challenges all the time :-)
[09:59] <larsrohdin> the client requests and the server answers
[09:59] <Jaggz-> my ATI card sometimes gives me problems.. it was refusing to rotate my display the 90 degrees I needed.. it would rotate it the opposite direction, and upside down, but not the proper way for rotating my monitor
[09:59] <TheLynx> pajamian: tweaked almost everything on this specific laptop regarding ATI. the only thing which seems to work out-of-the-box is the soundcard.
[09:59] <Slart> larsrohdin: ok.. turn that around.. how do the clients know which server to request an ip from? can you even specify that?
[09:59] <Jaggz-> this is in XP .. with the catalyst control center thingamabob
[09:59] <Jaggz-> it also sometimes doesn't switch resolutions
[09:59] <coolbhavi> How can I limit downloading multiple files in bittorrent?
[10:00] <larsrohdin> Slart: you can set a mac address in the server, so that they know if they should serve a client that requests it
[10:00] <genewitch> cool get a real bt client
[10:00] <larsrohdin> but
[10:00] <genewitch> like azureus
[10:00] <webPragmatist> ok this is somewhat off topic.... in a DNS record if it says preference .... is higher better or lower?
[10:00] <family> hey guys i have my computer set up really nice.. but it took me such a long time. So i was wondering is there anyway to back it up so if i ever crash and burn i can just load it up later after the installation? i have the following done icons, background, splash screen, gnome theme, login screen all customized. I would like to keep the apps and stuff to if thats possible, i have firestarter gkaiui and kaid.
[10:01] <jhend60> i am updating kubuntu so i can fix the Huge Text Problem on login screen
[10:01] <larsrohdin> Slart: then if one crashes alot of clients wouldnt get leases
[10:01] <crwlr> !aptoncd | family
[10:01] <ubotu> family: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[10:01] <coolbhavi> Any help anyone
[10:01] <coolbhavi> ?
[10:01] <jhend60> cool
[10:01] <jhend60> i might get that
[10:01] <Jaggz-> family: for similar reasons, but more technical environment, I refused to upgrade my OS for 2 and a half years :)
[10:01] <jhend60> how do i use packages
[10:01] <jhend60> such as intel xorg
[10:02] <jhend60> how do i select the driver
[10:02] <Slart> larsrohdin: ok.. didn't know you could do that with dhcp.. thanks
[10:02]  * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb
[10:02] <genewitch> family: do you have at least half your space available on your hard drive?
[10:02] <family> yea
[10:02] <family> :)
[10:03] <genewitch> family: look up dd
[10:03] <genewitch> you can create a disk image that way
[10:03] <family> dd?
[10:03] <family> so synaptic?
[10:03] <genewitch> family: man dd
[10:03] <family> aww
[10:03] <family> okay
[10:03] <TheLynx> I'm not an expert, but it would be a good idea to have specific settings to use for specific laptops. to resolve known issues without tweaking
[10:03] <family> thanks genewitch
[10:03] <genewitch> family it's a bit-by-bit copying thing. It's what i'd use if i cared about backing stuff up
[10:04] <family> oh yea i care alot
[10:04] <genewitch> family: you might be able to find nifty WM GUI applications for it
[10:04] <family> this took me about 3 weeks
[10:04] <family> sounds stupid but it did :P
[10:04] <genewitch> yeah you can dd /dev/hda1 to a file, then burn that
[10:04] <pajamian> I would be more interested in something like rdiff-backup or a gui backup program
[10:04] <genewitch> if you crash and burn, use a livecd to restore your HD
[10:05] <pajamian> you type backup into the search in synaptic and you'll get loads of stuff.
[10:05] <family> aww
[10:05] <genewitch> family: also look into flyby for linux (time machine) for preventing issues to begin with
[10:05] <family> :)
[10:05] <pajamian> genewitch: flyback
[10:05] <genewitch> pajamian thanks. i'm inebriated
[10:06] <family> sweet this is great information
[10:06] <pajamian> np
[10:06] <family> im running 6.06
[10:06] <family> and i refuse to goto 7.10
[10:06] <genewitch> pajamian and family: from what i can see, flyback is like GoBack for the windows
[10:06] <pajamian> I've got the page open, so: http://code.google.com/p/flyback/
[10:06] <family> :(
[10:06] <TheLynx> pajamian: I hope this fixes my current issue http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting#System_freezes_after_logout_with_GDM_or_KDM.07UNIQ58d9d4b56617c561-nowiki-0000000C-QINU2.07UNIQ58d9d4b56617c561-nowiki-0000000D-QINU
[10:06] <oblivious> I just set up ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 1505. My network card is the Broadcom BCM4328 802.11 and I can't figure out how to get my wireless working. Could anyone help me out?
[10:06] <pajamian> TheLynx: good luck
[10:07] <headb0y> hi, can anyone tell me why bittorrent says Couldn't listen (98,'Address already in use') when i start more than 1 torrent?
[10:07] <TheLynx> pajamian: ;-)
[10:07] <pajamian> oblivious: if you have the latest version of ubuntu it should "just work" with the broadcom chipset.
[10:07] <pajamian> used to be that you had to use ndiswrapper for it.
[10:07] <arthur37854> I have a question? when I play avi or mpg video I get audio but no video, just some horizontal lines any suggestions?
[10:08] <Jaggz-> probably a codec problem?
[10:08] <Jaggz-> I tend to use xine for my video playback
[10:08] <un0p> bullgard1, you're having problems with the samba setup on the remote machine -- I suspect it's with this line "guest account = nobody" - try commenting it out and restarting samba
[10:08] <oblivious> pajamian: I have ubuntu 7.10
[10:08] <Jaggz-> and I had to get some windows codec pack a while back
[10:09] <Jaggz-> oh, you're getting horizontal lines?  maybe it's something else :)
[10:09] <arthur37854> I tried xine mplayer vlc
[10:09] <Jaggz-> man.. I have to go..
[10:09] <Jaggz-> tried in windows too?
[10:09] <Jaggz-> see if they work there.. but it's likely a codec thing
[10:09] <Jaggz-> I have to go
[10:09] <pajamian> oblivious: actually I should take that back, I think it will, I have a laptop with the broadcom chipset, but I haven't actually tried it yet.  I know the latest kernels come with a driver for it as of about 2.6.17 or so so for a couple years now.
[10:09] <Jaggz-> take care
[10:09] <arthur37854> well I don't have windows on here now. but it worked when I did have win
[10:10] <genewitch> pajamian broadcomm and atheros are supported
[10:10] <marx2k> Does anyone have any experience using ant to build tomcat applications?
[10:10] <bullgard1> un0p:  this line "guest account = nobody" is commented out: It is prefixed with a ';'.
[10:11] <dgjones> pajamian, i set up a laptop with broadcom 4306 drivers about 3 weeks ago, it worked easily enough using restricted drivers, but i had a wired conenction as well so it could install fwcutter and download the driver from the web as needed
[10:11] <pajamian> dgjones: you needed restricted drivers?
[10:11] <dgjones> pajamian, yes
[10:11] <un0p> bullgard1, restart the samba daemons - /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart   and try the smbclient command again
[10:12] <pajamian> that surprises me, the broadcom driver should be included with the linux kernel now.
[10:12] <vallhalla81> !virtual machine
[10:12] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[10:12] <pajamian> btw, it was no thanks to broadcom, they never helped linux out one bit.
[10:12] <vallhalla81> !QEmu
[10:12] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:12] <dgjones> pajamian, at least it detected the card and offered me the restricted driver, until i did that, it didn't do anything, I didn't try to get it working without restricted, I wanted a standard install anyway so it was easier for me
[10:13] <ePax> How do i get touchpad to be more sensitive? mouse senisitivity is almost on maximum but nothing is faster witj touchpad.
[10:13] <pajamian> dgjones: fair enough, I just thought the driver was in the kernel now, but maybe it installed ndiswrapper with the windoze driver for you.
[10:14] <dgjones> pajamian, i'm not certain whether it is in the kernel, i tought they'd just made it easier to install without needing to use ndiswrapper
[10:14] <pajamian> it's possible that your particular chipset isn't supported by the kernel driver.
[10:15] <tyczek> hej
[10:15] <tyczek> ups, wrong channel
[10:15] <dgjones> pajamian, possibly, although the card is one of the older broadcom
[10:15] <rodolfo> People, i need this file (evieproto) to configure xorg and then build the driver. but i can't find it anywhere. does anyone here know something about evieproto?
[10:15] <coolbhavi> not able to change USB mouse to ps/2 mouse.. system is not recognising the mouse
[10:16] <coolbhavi> please help
[10:16] <dhude> my firefox keeps closing
[10:16] <un_op> coolbhavi, so you have a USB2PS/2 connector in place?
[10:17] <coolbhavi> yes
[10:17] <coolbhavi> un_op
[10:17] <un_op> coolbhavi, try running reconfiguring xorg to use a ps/2 mouse -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorf
[10:17] <marx2k> I dont understand why ant compiles to the build directory instead of the web directory
[10:17] <un_op> coolbhavi, sorry -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[10:19] <osfameron> hmmm, those ATI resources seem to suggest that 7.10 installs ATI Radeon drivers fairly smoothly these days
[10:19] <bullgard4> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31438/ Is this warning serious? On the other computer it does not appear.
[10:19] <coolbhavi> Ok
[10:19] <un_op> bullgard1, that looks normal
[10:19] <un_op> bullgard1, it's meant to say that
[10:20] <marx2k> !ant
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <un_op> bullgard1, actuall wait
[10:20] <bullgard1> un_op: The "session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" persists.
[10:20] <oblivious> pajamian: I have higher than 2.6.17
[10:20] <vallhalla81> !life
[10:20] <ubotu> life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <pajamian> oblivious: thatr version # was off the top of my head, but unless your ubuntu is older than two years or so you would.
[10:21] <un_op> bullgard1, what does this command report ?  testparm -s /etc/smb.conf
[10:21] <SleepingSloth> is anyone aware of a bug wit
[10:22] <dhude> !sex
[10:22] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[10:22] <arjuna> how can i set sax to fill the screen in vbox and opensuse as guest?
[10:22] <iceman> hehe
[10:22] <SleepingSloth> is anyone aware of a bug with 7.10 64 bit, where screensaver actvation causes nautius to use 100% of the cpu...?
[10:22] <Tm_T> stop fooling
[10:23] <Slart> SleepingSloth: it's the same with all screensavers? even the "blank" one?
[10:23] <bullgard1> un_op: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31439/
[10:23] <un_op> why does that arjuna guy keep asking opensuse questions in here?
[10:23] <headb0y> can anyone tell me why bittorrent says Couldn't listen (98,'Address already in use') when i start more than 1 torrent?
[10:23] <Tm_T> un_op: none, and dealt with
[10:23] <SleepingSloth> Slart, yes - in fat, it is the blank one... I haven't changed it.... i'll swap it to a short timeout and try a different one
[10:24] <Slart> headb0y: the torrent-clients all try to "reserve" the same port for incoming connections
[10:24] <SleepingSloth> Slart, I only *think* it's that, incidentally... could potentially be something to do with skype or xmms or conky too
[10:24] <un_op> bullgard1, sorry -- wrong location --   testparm -s /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:24] <SleepingSloth> but it seems to be at 100% when i return after a few mins and screensaver has come on. i have to kill nautilus
[10:25] <Slart> SleepingSloth: I know skype has some hooks into the screensaver to let it go into away-mode when the screensaver starts to run.. perhaps try shutting skype down?
[10:25] <bullgard1> un_op: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31440/
[10:25] <SleepingSloth> Slart, i'll report back in a few mins ;)
[10:26] <the-Shadow> any drivers for ubuntu out there for the "creative network blaster wireless usb adapter model CW2231"
[10:26] <the-Shadow> ?
[10:27] <un_op> bullgard1, there's a warning about long-share-names which could affect smbclient .. what version of smbclient are you running? smbclient -V
[10:28] <bullgard1> un_op: Version 3.0.26a
[10:29] <bullgard1> un_op: Version 3 accepts filenames longer than 12 characters. It does so in the opposite direction at least.
[10:29] <rne1224> how can I shrink my Gutsy partition?
[10:30] <Javid> gparted should do it, rne1224
[10:30] <pajamian> rne1224: what filesystem?
[10:30] <rne1224> I tried but it didn't let me
[10:30] <Javid> boot from a livecd and do it
[10:30] <Javid> it'll let you, then
[10:30] <rne1224> gparted live cd?
[10:30] <un_op> bullgard1, ok, let's create a samba user and force samba to use it -- run this command --  sudo sh -c "useradd -c test -m -g admin -p password testuser;  smbpasswd -a test"
[10:30] <Javid> no
[10:30] <mwe> rne1224: how did you try? you can't schrink a mounted partition
[10:30] <Javid> ubuntu livecd
[10:30] <Javid> it'll have gparted on it
[10:30] <mwe> rne1224: you to do it from a live cd
[10:31] <bod_> Can anyone recommend a good music/video player,.,. it needs to have a library like Windows media player and (windows version) Realplayer
[10:31] <rne1224> thanks
[10:31] <Javid> just resize the partition like you want, and keep a grub disk handy in case it pooches the mbr
[10:31] <pajamian> bod_: Rhythembox
[10:31] <rne1224> I'm going to install Windows Xp
[10:31] <iceman> bod_, xmms or real for linux
[10:31] <un_op> bullgard1, once you have run that command -- place this line in the  section  [freigegebenAM]  force user = test
[10:31] <rne1224> any recomendations?
[10:31] <pajamian> ...for music
[10:31] <Javid> rne1224, ##windows
[10:31] <mwe> rne1224: you'll need to reinstall grub afterwards, then
[10:31] <bod_> iceman, pajamian, have they got nice looking interfaces?
[10:32] <iceman> bod_, hehe,u will get used to it,it is easy
[10:32] <mwe> rne1224: just after installing windows only windows will be accessible
[10:32] <pajamian> bod_: don't know what you mean by nice looking, it's installed by default in ubuntu and I quite like it.
[10:32] <rne1224> how do I change it?
[10:33] <mwe> rne1224: reinstall grub
[10:33] <mwe> !grub | rne1224
[10:33] <ubotu> rne1224: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:33] <iceman> mwe, not really, he can use ntdll (windows) boot grldr (grub) then boot ubuntu
[10:33] <bod_> iceman, pajamian, i want something that looks nice,. can i change the themes for those players?
[10:33] <iceman> bod_, yes ,try it
[10:33] <bod_> pajamian, rhythmbox looks really dull
[10:33] <bod_> iceman, kk wil get xmms now,. cheers
[10:34] <un0p> bullgard1, once you have done that -- restart smbd and try this from the connecting computer -  smbclient //server/share -Utest%password
[10:34] <rne1224> mwe: so I just have to run !grub| and it will reinstall?
[10:34] <mwe> iceman: I don't know about that. usually you just reinsall grub
[10:34] <SleepingSloth> Slart, right... it seems it only happens when conky is running...
[10:34] <un0p> bullgard1, replace <server> and <share> accordingly
[10:34] <mwe> rne1224: no you have to follow the instructions ubotu provided you after I typed !grub in here
[10:34] <pajamian> bod_: good luck, I just use rhythembox and happen to like it, but then I'm not one to care about nice looking interfaces and skins and themes and such.
[10:35] <Slart> SleepingSloth: hmm.. conky makes nautilus run amok?
[10:35] <iceman> mwe, yes,in sourceforge,there is a grub for dos,make windows boot linux possible
[10:35] <bod_> pajamian, k,.,. cheers
[10:36] <mwe> iceman: yeah I heard about that
[10:36] <rne1224> ok
[10:36] <SleepingSloth> Slart, sometimes top reports xorg, rather than nautilus, but a 'killall nautilus' always fixes the problem
[10:36] <bod_> iceman, does xmms support files like mp3's and mpegs?
[10:37] <bod_> iceman, does xmms support files like mp3's and mpeg?
[10:37] <iceman> bod_, sure,it does,everything you can think ,is support
[10:37] <bod_> iceman, sorry for the double post
[10:37] <iceman> hehe
[10:37] <un0p> bod_ sure
[10:37] <un0p> bod_, it plays almost anything (if configured right)
[10:37] <bod_> un0p,. cool ,. cheers
[10:38] <Slart> SleepingSloth: wondering if there any switches to conky to make it play nice with nautilus....
[10:38] <un0p> . o 0 ( killall conky ? )
[10:38] <julo> hi
[10:39] <un0p> hi
[10:39] <SleepingSloth> Slart, I do have conky doing a fair bit of 'extra' stuff.... cpu temps, fan speeds etc - eth0 up/down, disk i/o
[10:39] <bod_> un0p, iceman, ok i broke it,.,.lol,.,. i clicked on options, then ticked main window,. now its gone to the taskbar and wont come bak!
[10:39] <Slart> SleepingSloth: mm.. me too =).. but I don't have any problems with screensavers
[10:39] <un0p> bod_, xmms?
[10:39] <bod_> un0p, yer
[10:40] <SleepingSloth> un0p, that may be a solution - but if 'giving up' is always the best we can do, it's a poor show...
[10:40] <julo> I have a panel PC with an AMD Geode LX display device, and a PenMount LCD touch screen. I'd like to be able to set the backlight brightness. My question is: is the backlight brightness managed by the display driver or by the touch screen's driver ?
[10:40] <un0p> SleepingSloth, i didnt say anything eh ;)
[10:40] <SleepingSloth> Slart - it doesn't seem to be specificaly screensaver-related actualy... now i've killed it and restarted it plenty of times, it's causing either x or nautilus to go spazzy immediately i start it
[10:41] <SleepingSloth> un0p,  :p
[10:41] <un0p> bod_, run this from a terminal -- killall xmms
[10:41] <Slart> SleepingSloth: any error messages if you run conky in a terminal?
[10:41] <SleepingSloth> Slart, are you running 64 bit?
[10:41] <Slart> SleepingSloth: yes
[10:42] <SleepingSloth> Slart, i do (not a service) - and no, no errors
[10:42] <white_eagle> ?
[10:42] <white_eagle> what happened
[10:42] <clusty> hey
[10:42] <un0p> !split
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about split - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <bod_> wtf?
[10:42] <un0p> !netsplit
[10:42] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show.  haa :)
[10:42] <bod_> lol,.,. ubotu knows everything
[10:42] <Javid> !ohshit
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohshit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <white_eagle> !ohmy
[10:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:43] <Javid> !kirby-#offtopic
[10:43] <ubotu> <(^.^<) <(^.^)> (>^.^)>
[10:43] <clusty> any idea how to revert tot he ubuntu nvidia-glv-new driver?
[10:43] <un0p> !botabuse > Javid
[10:43] <white_eagle> Javid don't abuse
[10:43] <Javid> I didn't put that command there, I just find it amusing. ^^
[10:43] <bod_> !botabuse| javid
[10:43] <ubotu> javid: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:43] <iceman> what is wrong with this channel
[10:43] <white_eagle> this is so spam
[10:44] <un0p> white_eagle, iceman -- a netsplit is in progress -- nothing to worry about
[10:44] <techno_freak> welcome back people :P
[10:44] <Javid> aaaaaaaaaah
[10:44] <bod_> is this the 2 servers rejoining eachother?
[10:44] <white_eagle> I hate this
[10:44] <un0p> bod_, aye
[10:44] <Tudor> Hello, How do I make a folder hidden ?
[10:44] <iceman> oh,
[10:44] <clusty> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:44] <Javid> !install
[10:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:45] <bullgard1> un0p: "detlef@Amilo7600:~$ smbclient //md97600/freigegebenMD -Utest%password; session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[10:45] <bod_> un0p,. cool ,.,. erm, xmms is kinda small,. is there a way of making it bigger?
[10:45] <white_eagle> Javid investigate ubotu PRIVATE
[10:45] <un0p> bod_, not really
[10:45] <white_eagle> !pastebin | bullgard1
[10:45] <Slart> Tudor: make it into a .foldername instead of foldername
[10:45] <SleepingSloth> Slart, yeah, starting conky results in maxed cpu (luckily only on one cpu, so i can still play. i dont really want to restart the box to solve the problem
[10:45] <un0p> white_eagle, it's ok as long as it's only one line
[10:45]  * Tudor thanks Slart
[10:45] <bod_> un0p, damn,.,. ok, is there a player like Windows Media Player?
[10:45] <ubotu> bullgard1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <un0p> bod_, if everything about linux was like windows -- linux would be windows :)
[10:46] <SleepingSloth> Slart, what are you using for cpu temp / fan speed?
[10:46] <Javid> he pasted one line, not worth pastebinning
[10:46] <Slart> SleepingSloth: is it the conky base-system? or one of the monitor-thingies? tried disabling them one by one?
[10:46] <bod_> un0p,  thats why i havent just installed WMA with wine,. i dont wont MS app's but i would like some of the nice graphical thingies
[10:47] <Slart> SleepingSloth: I don't display cpu temp/fan speed.. I show hard drive temperatures though
[10:47] <un0p> bullgard1,  please !pastebin this -- tail -n 30 /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[10:48] <techno_freak> bod_, audio or video ?
[10:48] <bod_> techno_freak, one that does both would be nice  ;)
[10:48] <un0p> bod_, i'm for simplicity/practicality myself -- i'm not too good with recommending eye-candy to people -- but what i can say for sure is that all the good/better looking apps exist in the KDE
[10:48] <bod_> un0p,. cheers dude
[10:49] <bullgard1> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31441/
[10:49] <techno_freak> bod_, for me totem plays both
[10:49] <Slart> bod_: you can run kde apps on gnome if you want to.. I suppose you can run gnome-apps on KDE aswell.. but I haven't tried it myself
[10:50] <white_eagle> Slart: its possible
[10:50] <SleepingSloth> Slart, okay.. its not 'platform' (which is the replacement for i2c) related. it's conky from the repos,
[10:50] <bod_> Slart, yer u can run either on either,.
[10:50] <un0p> bullgard1, errm, which machine did you create the user's on?  Amilo7600 or md97600  ????
[10:50] <techno_freak> Slart, i use a lot of K aaps in G, and have been using vice versa too ;)
[10:50] <SleepingSloth> Slart, with a more 'standard' .conkyrc , i have the same problem
[10:50] <bod_> techno_freak, but totem looks really bland,.,.
[10:50] <white_eagle> :D slart
[10:50] <Slart> SleepingSloth: I use the standard conky from the repos too.. never had any problems
[10:50] <white_eagle> everyone wrote to ya (:
[10:51] <techno_freak> bod_, then you have to settle for better apps which just does one job right.. audio or video
[10:51] <bullgard1> un0p: I created the user on the Amilo7600 machine.
[10:51] <un0p> i use both KDE and Gnome apps on fluxbox
[10:51] <Slart> shesh... one at a a time now =)
[10:51] <un0p> bullgard1, errm, you were meant to create that on the other machine :)
[10:51] <SleepingSloth> Slart, you love it you slag!!
[10:51] <bullgard1> un0p: err!
[10:51] <Slart> SleepingSloth: you get the same problem if you just run a almost empty conky?
[10:51] <SleepingSloth> I was just trying to find a blankish .conkyrc, maybe i'll just clear one... hold on
[10:51] <bullgard1> un0p: I created the user on the MD97600 machine.
[10:51] <un0p> bullgard1, because thats the machine you are having trouble with -- smb.conf refers to the samba server never to any clients
[10:52] <Slart> mmm.. irc-attention.. just can't get enough of it
[10:52] <bod_> techno_freak, damn,. the missery,. ok cheers,. ,. anyone know how easy it is to add little bits of gui to amarok?
[10:52] <un0p> bullgard1, ok, let's see the output of log.smbd on the MD97600 machine then
[10:53] <SleepingSloth> Slart, arse, it' fine with a blank .conkrc - looks like i need to do a bit of fiddling to find the offending line
[10:53] <bod_> THANKS GUYS!!! bye
[10:53] <Slart> SleepingSloth: start by removing the temp/fan speed stuff
[10:54] <SleepingSloth> Slart, yeah, i tried that - no difference
[10:54] <Slart> SleepingSloth: want my conf?
[10:54] <SleepingSloth> Slart - i reckon it's one of the switches - like running in the background...
[10:54] <headb0y> Slart: how do i fix that torrent thingy?
[10:54] <SleepingSloth> Slart - yeah, it you would be so kind :)
[10:55] <bullgard4> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31442/
[10:55] <clusty> so how can I fix my glx for my nvidia powered PC?
[10:55] <clusty> installed the cuda drivers and they screwed up everything
[10:56] <gumis> good afternoon
[10:56] <clusty> cant get back the regular nvidia to work
[10:56] <clusty> with GLX
[10:56] <Slart> SleepingSloth: nasty pastebin accused me of spamming... just because I didn't have javascripts enabled... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53284/
[10:56] <un0p> bullgard1, see this "Global parameter guest account found in service section!" -- you've misplaced a paramter in the smb.conf .. comment it out and restart smbd
[10:57] <bullgard4> un0p: But what parameter is it?
[10:57] <Slart> headb0y: use another torrent client.. azureus, deluge, ktorrent.. or check the settings for something like outgoing ports.. see if you can make it use more than one
[10:58] <un0p> bullgard1, errm, it can;t be hard to find -- !pastebin your smb.conf for that machine
[10:58] <gumis> i'm trying to install ubuntu but i have some issues
[10:59] <un0p> !ask | gumis
[10:59] <ubotu> gumis: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:59] <Slart> gumis: tell us all about it
[10:59] <gumis> installation is locking at 'configuring apt..', while researching the mirrors
[11:00] <bullgard4> un0p: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/31443/
[11:00] <Slart> gumis: does the machine have an internet-connection?
[11:01] <gumis> it should have, heh.. i can ping to hostnames, but i can't browse pages in ff
[11:01] <SleepingSloth> Slart - okay, yours works fine, apart from not having the same devs etc
[11:01] <SleepingSloth> Slart - I'll see if i can swap some switches about and fix it. and then i'll pastebin mine :)
[11:02] <Slart> SleepingSloth: do that
[11:02] <un0p> bullgard1, in the last section "guest account = nobody" -- comment it out
[11:02] <Slart> gumis: hmm.. so you can ping www.google.com.. but you can't browse to it?
[11:02] <gumis> yes
[11:02] <SleepingSloth> Slart - btw, what processors do you have?
[11:02] <Slart> gumis: are you behind some kind of proxy? firewall?
[11:02] <gumis> i can browse to my local server (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[11:02] <Slart> SleepingSloth: amd64 x2
[11:03] <gumis> server is running under debian with iptables firewall
[11:03] <SleepingSloth> Slart, oppie 248s x2 here
[11:03] <headb0y> Slart: it worked before i used another new pc with ubuntu... and it doesnt work here
[11:03] <Slart> gumis: but you can't browse anything outside your own lan?
[11:04] <bullgard4> un0p: I did comment it out in MD97600 and restarted Samba there.
[11:04] <gumis> yes, i can't browse too to my modem
[11:04] <wookienz> gent, what program is best to test a HDD for errors and mark bad blocks before installing an OS?
[11:04] <gumis> modem is on the different ethernet card in server
[11:05] <Slart> headb0y: I'm not really up to speed on the default bittorrent client.. I use azureus myself
[11:05] <iceman> i am going to bomb ,it is so busy here,i will quit ,bye guys
[11:06] <Slart> gumis: if you try just waiting it out.. take a cup of coffee.. go for a walk.. help some old ladies cross the street.. see if it's done when you come back? perhaps it just needs to time out
[11:06] <bullgard4> un0p: The Nautilus still shows the files in smb://md97600/freigegebenMD as of 'unknown' type.
[11:07] <simion314> hi, how to share file betwen two ubuntu system in a LAN?
[11:07] <gumis> heh, how long i must wait? 20min, 30min, 1h, 2h ?:D
[11:08] <Slart> gumis: I would guess max 20 mins
[11:09] <Slart> simion314: using samba, nfs or sshfs ..might be other stuff available too
[11:09] <bullgard4> simion314: Use either Samba or NFS.
[11:10] <tz42815> sshfs is pretty cool
[11:11] <Bishop-> hi
[11:11] <gumis> maybe i should disconnect ethernet cable to wait shorter?
[11:12] <n0y> Hi! Anybody knows how to activate "Read Confirmation" in Evolution mail client?
[11:12] <Slart> gumis: might be worth a try
[11:12] <riotkittie> read confirmation? like receipts? or...?
[11:13]  * Slart is off to hunt for some food
[11:13] <n0y> Yes, I guess... Is the confirmation of when anybody receives your mail...
[11:13] <alfatau> hello, does ubuntu's gnome support that kind of quicklaunch sidebar which switches between icons like mac's one turning around and zooming the front one? thanks
[11:14] <alfatau> and... does it support some kind of speedstep control?
[11:14] <SleepingSloth> Slart, i dont have time to diagnose the exact problem, i;ve just hacked yours about a bit - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53285/
[11:14] <SleepingSloth> Slart - but thanks for the assistance, it seems to be okay now :)
[11:15] <wilhart> hello ppl, what is next from gutsy ?
[11:16] <bullgard4> wilhart: Hardy Heron
[11:16] <pawan> ares for ubuntu
[11:16] <wilhart> hardy heron.. mhmmm
[11:16] <wilhart> bullgard4: so i can put that in sources.list ?
[11:17] <dgjones> !hardy | wilhart
[11:17] <ubotu> wilhart: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:17] <bullgard4> wilhart: No, not yet. Only after April.
[11:17] <wilhart> bullgard4: so it's like really new stuff?
[11:18] <bullgard4> wilhart: It depends on what you call "really new". It will basically the same but with less errors and some additional functionality.
[11:19] <bullgard4> be
[11:19] <wilhart> bullgard4: if i' wanna be beta tester i should put that?
[11:19] <bullgard4> wilhart: yes.
[11:20] <wilhart> bullgard4: do you have that?
[11:20] <bullgard4> wilhart: No.
[11:20] <dgjones> wilhart, you'd be better asking in #ubuntu+1, its a long term support version, so more likely to be stability fixes rather than latest versions of everything
[11:20] <coolbhavi> when I try running reconfiguring xorg to use a ps/2 mouse..sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[11:20] <nkriz> hello all
[11:20] <newguyss> Hi, I am trying to enable desktop effects, and I get a message saying: desktop efects could not be enabled, is it somehing with my computer?
[11:21] <coolbhavi> The first message I get is "fatal error inserting battery"
[11:21] <coolbhavi> any info
[11:21] <mikebeecham> can someone help me with launcher commands.  I am trying to run play/pause buttons on a panel.  The help document told me the command would be "listen --play-pause"...but this does not work, and I get an error message?
[11:21] <wilhart> bullgard4: hmm, is there a url for ubuntu howto get started with codecs and stuff?
[11:21] <wilhart> bullgard4: multimedia
[11:21] <wilhart> stuff that should be installed?
[11:21] <bullgard4> !multimedia | wilhart
[11:21] <ubotu> wilhart: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:22] <nkriz> has anyone installed Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri on 7.10?
[11:22] <dgjones> !codecs > wilhart, (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[11:22] <wilhart> ubotu: ok i think i have those codecs already
[11:22] <newguyss> wilhart: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[11:22] <bullgard4> wilhart: "ubotu" is only a roboter machine.
[11:23] <wilhart> tnx.
[11:24] <bod_> hi guys,.,. whenever i try to download a torrent from a torrent sot (www.torrentz.com) the little download box comes up and asks which application i want to use,. however it only lists Bittorrent(default) which doesnt work, i have installed deluge but it doesnt show up in the list,.,. any ideas?
[11:24] <LordOfThePigs> Hello! I'm looking for a main menu replacement for GNOME, something that looks a little bit like the menu in Linux Mint
[11:24] <mikebeecham> can someone help me with launcher commands.  I am trying to run play/pause buttons on a panel.  The help document told me the command would be "listen --play-pause"...but this does not work, and I get an error message?
[11:24] <coolbhavi> hello...
[11:24] <coolbhavi> un_op
[11:24] <wilhart> what is medibuntu ?
[11:24] <LordOfThePigs> I found gnome-main-menu, but it does anybody know another alternative?
[11:25] <bod_> mikebeecham, prog name -pause eg.,. : amarok -pause
[11:25] <mikebeecham> ahhhh
[11:25] <mikebeecham> so it would be bod_ rhythmbox --play-pause
[11:25] <coolbhavi> when I try running reconfiguring xorg to use a ps/2 mouse..sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg The first message I get is "fatal error inserting battery" un_op
[11:25] <l3ttuc3> is not being able to play flash on ubuntu a known issue?
[11:25] <bazhang> !flash
[11:25] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:25] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:26] <l3ttuc3> neither opera nor firefox will display them properly.
[11:26] <wilhart> l3ttuc3: it's luck. i got them working instantly
[11:26] <bod_> mikebeecham, wot r u trying to do?
[11:26] <wilhart> l3ttuc3: do you use 64bit?
[11:26] <l3ttuc3> hmm. wilhart no, 32-bit.
[11:26] <bod_> l3ttuc3, only in 7.10 amd 64 to my knowledge,. but there are fixes and workarounds
[11:27] <mikebeecham> bod_: I have downloaded a gtk theme set...within that set were some media buttons to put on a panel that will control your player, in this case rhythmbox..I am trying to get these to work
[11:27] <l3ttuc3> bod_ fair enough. what about a slightly older version of the plugin?
[11:27] <mikebeecham> to play, pause, previous and next from the panel
[11:27] <techno_freak> l3ttuc3, check the launchpad for the flash bug, there is a solution given, my patch in under process though ;)
[11:27] <bod_> mikebeecham, are you trying to pause ur music from the terminal,. those commands work as default for any program with a play/pause button
[11:28] <mikebeecham> bod...no I'm trying to pause the music from the media buttons on the panek
[11:28] <l3ttuc3> ok, well, i'll have a look at the posts. thanks.
[11:28] <bod_> l3ttuc3, i can give u a link to a thread that has the package you need to make flash work perfectly in mozilla firefox
[11:29] <l3ttuc3> bod_ sure, shoot. i'll have a look at it, although i would rather use opera. but flash in firefox would be better than no flash at all, in some cases.
[11:29] <bod_> mikebeecham, so the buttons dont work?
[11:29] <mikebeecham> bod_:  no
[11:29] <nkriz> can anyone help me get the loki port of alpha centauri working?
[11:29] <bod_> l3ttuc3, ive never used opera so i dunno bout that,. but il get the fix now
[11:29] <l3ttuc3> thanks.
[11:30] <bod_> l3ttuc3, make sure you have a fresh install of mozilla firefox,. then you want the package in the blue writing : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[11:30] <bod_> mikebeecham, sorry,.,. not sure how to make non-working buttons work
[11:30] <l3ttuc3> ok, ill have a look at all that. thanks.
[11:30] <mikebeecham> bod...thanks mate...I guess I wont need help to get working buttons to work!!
[11:31] <julian__> Hello
[11:31] <bod_> l3ttuc3, no probs,.,. took me weeks to find that page,.,.lol,.,. i almst died without flash,.lol
[11:31] <bod_> julian__, hi
[11:31] <julian__> Hi
[11:33] <xalanthyr> hello, can anybody tell me whether there is a way to speed up wine?
[11:33] <IndyGunFreak> xalanthyr: not that i know of, what are you using wine for?
[11:34] <simion314> i just want to use that configuration to conect the computers if the first computers run windows or ubuntu
[11:34] <xalanthyr> IndyGunFreak: i'm trying to play a game with very simple graphics but it's running very slow
[11:34] <bod_> xalanthyr, try disabling compiz first (if your using it)
[11:34] <IndyGunFreak> xalanthyr: thats probably a good idea, disabling compiz if youv'e got it running
[11:35] <xalanthyr> bod_: i don't think i'm using compriz, how can i check it?
[11:35] <bod_> xalanthyr, type     ccsm     in a terminal ,.,. and check the wine FAQ : http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ
[11:36] <bod_> xalanthyr, if ccsm gives you a window with loads of options then ur runnig compiz
[11:36] <xalanthyr> bod_: so i'm not using it
[11:37] <bod_> xalanthyr, if you type     ccsm    in a terminal ,. does it do anything?
[11:38] <xalanthyr> bod_: command nod found
[11:38] <bod_> xalanthyr, ok so u probably dont have compiz installed
[11:38] <pawan> how to open this folder
[11:38] <pawan> c:\windows\profiles\pawan\Local Settings\Application Data\Ares\My Shared Folder
[11:39] <xalanthyr> bod_: can you give me some other advice?
[11:41] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: you'll need to mount your windows partition.
[11:41] <nkriz> is there a different channel i can go to that's more geared to linux/ubuntu and games?
[11:41] <sakhi> ohi
[11:42] <pawan> how
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: are you running Gutsy or Feisty?
[11:42] <pawan> gutsy
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: gutsy should have NTFS support out fo the box.
[11:43] <pawan> then
[11:43] <nkriz> pawan: is it on the comp you're using, or is it on a network?
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> Go to Places /My Computer
[11:43] <sakhi> I need to change the start-up interface of Ubuntu while keeping the OS, can someone please help me.
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> nkriz: well if its on C:, i'm presuming its on his C drive.
[11:44] <pawan> on the computer at my home which i am using
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> pawan: open Places, Computer, is your WIndows drive there?
[11:44] <SleepingSloth> pawan - you may need to force the mount
[11:45] <bod_> xalanthyr, 1 sec
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> shouldn't have to,
[11:45] <Adarious> I wish I could actually find people that liked piano music
[11:45] <SleepingSloth> IndyGunFreak, i've had that in the past - just a suggestion of course, but theresnot a
[11:46] <SleepingSloth>  lot to go on at this point...
[11:46] <nkriz> i love piano music
[11:46] <SleepingSloth> i love guitar music
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> true, but last time i had to force mount a drive, I think was Edgy.... since then, the installer always picked up XP partitions
[11:46] <yon> msg nickserv identify tadpole
[11:46] <pawan> ok
[11:47] <Yonie> msg nickserv identify tadpole
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> yon: "/msg"
[11:47] <dgjones> yon, password change time
[11:47] <rekon> lol
[11:47] <Yonie> lol
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> Yonie: thans for the password by the way..
[11:47] <rekon> oops
[11:47] <dookdook> has anyone gotten pc camera webcams to work under feisty?
[11:47] <Yonie> OMW!!!
[11:47] <Yonie> stupid STUPID me!
[11:47] <Yonie> lol
[11:47] <shir0v> firstly sorry my bad english, after sorry again (nobody ask to me), but: i love chromatic harmonica music
[11:47] <Yonie> ok everyone just ignore that plz  *sigh*
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> Yonie: jus for future reference, dn't enter your password line in the channel, enter it on the main freenode page.
[11:48] <larson9999> dookdook, yeah,  not bad if there's a driver for your camera.
[11:48] <compwiz18> !offtopic | shir0v
[11:48] <ubotu> shir0v: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:48] <Yonie> i normally do, this channle opens automatically tho :s
[11:48] <dookdook> larson9999, i've been looking at the sn9cxxxx drivers, but i can't get them to work
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> !webcam | dookdook
[11:48] <ubotu> dookdook: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:48] <Yonie> but yeah... that was really dumb
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> Yonie: yeah..
[11:48] <compwiz18> Yonie: you have any luck w/ your cell phone problem?
[11:48] <bod_> xalanthyr, sorry,.,. back now
[11:49] <Yonie> nope, nothing, iv even tryied posting on a forum, didnt get a reply
[11:49] <dookdook> indygunfreak, i've installed the relevant camorama, xawtv, etc, but theres still no /dev/video*
[11:49] <xalanthyr> bod_: ok, so could you help me with some advice connected with WINE?
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> dookdook: did you look at the hardware compatibility list?
[11:50] <bod_> xalanthyr, so ur wine is running slow, and its not a high-end graphics game,
[11:50] <bod_> xalanthyr, do u have a graphics card?
[11:50] <bod_> xalanthyr, have u ever had this problem with another game?
[11:50] <SleepingSloth> yonie, that could be a candidate for bash.org ;)
[11:50] <Adarious> the only person that bothered mentioning interest in my dad's music just left
[11:50] <bod_> Adarious, wots the prob,. if i can help, i will
[11:50] <Illusion_Master> hey every1
[11:50] <bod_> hi
[11:51] <ablabla> hello
[11:51] <Yonie> compwiz18, im having other problems now, sometimes when i boot up my hdds dont seem to auto mount... is this a normal?
[11:51] <compwiz18> !hi | Illusion_Master
[11:51] <ubotu> Illusion_Master: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:51] <bod_> xalanthyr, read the posts i made just b4 urs
[11:51] <IrishDave> hey, are there any good programs for linux that i can use to demonstrate an organisational flow? as in a company structure?
[11:51] <compwiz18> Yonie: if your hdds have filesystem errors, they won't mount (check with fsck)
[11:51] <Illusion_Master> dont supose some1 can help me with my wi fi on ubuntu
[11:51] <riotkittie> the world is awash in people who like piano music but i dare say it's off-topic. :P
[11:51] <compwiz18> Illusion_Master: what card ya got?
[11:52] <riotkittie> Illusion_Master: what problem are you having with your wifi?
[11:52] <Illusion_Master> it cant connect to my router
[11:52] <zhangxiaodong> hi
[11:52] <Adarious> whoever was just talking to me remsg
[11:52] <Illusion_Master> it is using restricted drivers for the card
[11:52] <bod_> Adarious, send it again
[11:52] <Yonie> compwiz18, fsck?
[11:52] <pawan> how
[11:52] <riotkittie> probably out of my league but what card do you have -- chipset would be better, if you know that
[11:53] <compwiz18> Yonie: fsck when run from a terminal will check disks for filesystem errors, ie fsck /dev/sda1
[11:53] <Illusion_Master> umm i can tell u what it says in restricted drivers
[11:53] <wookienz> hi, i ve attached an old formatted windwos hdd to my ubuntu box.. how do i access it so i can dom some DD commands on it?
[11:53] <GeorgeA> anyone know how to send song information from xmms to shoutcast?
[11:54] <compwiz18> Illusion_Master: if you post the output of lspci to the !pastebin, we could probably help more
[11:54] <Yonie> compwiz18, i get: fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found, that cant be good :s
[11:54] <Illusion_Master> im usin broadcom 43xx
[11:54] <Diablo13> hi all
[11:54] <compwiz18> Yonie: you probably want to use windows to check ntfs disks
[11:54] <pawan> how to force mount
[11:54] <compwiz18> mount --force?
[11:54] <compwiz18> pawan: how do you mean?
[11:54] <pawan> command
[11:54] <Yonie> compwiz18, yeah ok, ill be back later then, thanks :)
[11:55] <riotkittie> oooh. broadcom. this is the part where i turn around and flee in terror, sorry.
[11:55] <compwiz18> riotkittie: agree. :)
[11:55] <Illusion_Master> im not on the ubuntu
[11:55] <xalanthyr> bod_: my graphics card is ATI Rage 128 and I only got drivers that ubuntu installed, other games don't start because i haven't got opengl or the glx
[11:55] <compwiz18> Illusion_Master: did you install ndiswrapper?
[11:55] <Diablo13> ne molchat'
[11:55] <Illusion_Master> dunno what that is but it says in use by restricted drivers
[11:56] <Illusion_Master> so it must be installed logicaly
[11:56] <Diablo13> cfv ct,t jndtnbk/djn rhenj
[11:56] <Diablo13> сам себе ответил, вот круто
[11:56] <compwiz18> Illusion_Master: restricted drivers uses bcm43xx module, which isn't the same as ndiswrapper. for using ndiswrapper see
[11:56] <th0r> !ru
[11:56] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:56] <compwiz18> !ndiswrapper | Illusion_Master
[11:56] <ubotu> Illusion_Master: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:57] <bod_> xalanthyr, System-->admin--> Restricted drivers manager      is there anything there?
[11:57] <Diablo13> cosiak
[11:57] <ct529> :( the last update of the xserver-core broke th eclipse installation ....
[11:57] <ct529> how do you go back one version?
[11:57] <Illusion_Master> ill have a look at the documents then
[11:57]  * Nikki85 is away: Gone away for now.
[11:57] <Diablo13> Ы
[11:57]  * Nikki|AWAY is away: Gone away for now.
[11:57]  * Nikki|AWAY is away: Gone away for now.
[11:58] <dgjones> !away > Nikki|AWAY
[11:58] <compwiz18> Illusion_Master: ndiswrapper isn't necessarily better or worse then bcm43xx, sometimes one works when the other doesn't
[11:58] <Diablo13> заело чтоль?
[11:58]  * Nikki|AWAY is away: Gone away for now.
[11:58]  * Nikki|AWAY is back.
[11:58] <Javid> !ru | Diablo13
[11:58] <ubotu> Diablo13: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[11:58] <rama_8086> when i am doing configuration of source package it showing checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.5... no
[11:58] <rama_8086> *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
[11:58] <rama_8086> *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[11:58] <rama_8086> *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[11:58] <rama_8086> *** full path to gtk-config.
[11:59] <FloodBot1> rama_8086: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Diablo13> Ы
[11:59] <Javid> oh god he pasted lines LYNCH
[11:59] <compwiz18> !pastebin
[11:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:59] <compwiz18> ct529: I think that the latest update fixes the broken java things, could be wrong about that though... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:59] <xalanthyr> bod_: it says that system doesn't require any drivers
[12:00] <rama_8086> sorry i will not repeat
[12:01] <bod_> xalanthyr, i seem to remember ati RAGE having quite a few problems,.,. let me do some searching,.,. i think its your card rather then wine
[12:01] <xalanthyr> bod_; thx much
[12:02] <pajamian> xalanthyr: btw, what version of WINE do you have?
[12:02] <bod_> xalanthyr, wots the full name of ur graphics card?
[12:03] <mirrado> Hi. Anyone knows if usplash actualy support image transparency?
[12:03] <xalanthyr> bod_: system says: Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS
[12:03] <bashca> please i need help .. how stop totem to be lunched when watch tv online ??
[12:04] <xalanthyr> pajamian: 0.9.53
[12:04] <sucramuk> hi all, hopefully i may get some help as new to ubuntu, also have googled and searched for answers to
[12:04] <rama_8086> when i am configuring a software package it shows http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53293/
[12:04] <bod_> xalanthyr, cheers,.,. gimme a sec then
[12:04] <sakhi> I need to change the start-up interface of Ubuntu while keeping the OS, can someone please help me.
[12:04] <rama_8086> what should i do
[12:04] <sucramuk> problem 1:  my mouse on trackpad seems very jumpy, have installed sypatics etc but the settings make no difference to it, any ideas?
[12:04] <Yonie> Does anyone know how to get 2 internet connections, one connection is USB the other is through my network card
[12:06] <bod_> xalanthyr, ur card should be fine ,.,. read this : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138465.html
[12:06] <Illusion_Master> with ubuntu is it gnome / XFCE or KDE
[12:06] <sucramuk> any suggestions?
[12:06] <bashca> please i need help .. how stop totem to be lunched when watch tv online ??
[12:06] <Tm_T> Illusion_Master: Ubuntu is GNOME by default
[12:07] <mirrado> Does anyone knows if usplash actually support image transparency?
[12:07] <pawan> hi
[12:07] <Illusion_Master> ???
[12:08] <pkundu> hi, I am using 7.10. when I boot the system it show me I have 1.5GB of free memory of 2G. But if I keep running the system the free memory decreases and it comes to a problem where I need to reboot. Is this a problem with 7.10
[12:08] <pkundu> point*
[12:08] <bod_> pkundu, im ruunning 7.10 and dont have that problem
[12:09] <BuFF> hi there, could someone tell how to install new desklets using gdesklet program ?
[12:09] <rama_8086> i got a software package from internet..when iam doing ./configure it showing me this result what is the solution for this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53296/
 what do u want to do ?
[12:10] <pkundu> bod_ do you have breyl, does it eat memory then
[12:10] <bashca> ???!!!
[12:10] <gumis> hi again
[12:10] <bod_> pkundu, to my knowledge beryl no longer exists,. but im running compiz and no it doesnt eat my memory
[12:11] <xalanthyr> bod_: i read it but i was looking for better drver for my card and i haven't found any...
[12:11] <pkundu> bod_ sorry compiz is wat I am running too
[12:11] <Overseer> hey guys. simple: how can i enter the command line with my install cd?
[12:11] <gumis> Slart: i installed ubuntu, but i have problem with booting it
[12:11] <bod_> xalanthyr, im not sure,. try googling ur card name and look for drivers for linux
[12:12] <bod_> pkundu, no,. i have 1.5 gig of mem and it doesnt get eaten
[12:12] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[12:12] <bod_> good afternoon
[12:12] <gradin> so i'm trying to find a way to configure a floppy or cdrom so that it would load the usb drivers nessicary to boot to my usb flashdrive
[12:12] <gradin> anybody have any ideas?
[12:12] <pkundu> ok bod_ , then it must be something else
[12:13] <bod_> pkundu, does ur mem get eaten if u disable compiz?
[12:13] <xalanthyr> bod_: i was doing that for about a week - not single driver found, and only i've found damaged my system enough that i had to format...
[12:13] <Dukan> relow
[12:13] <gumis> when i start computer, grub hangs with text "Grub loading, please wait..."
[12:13] <pkundu> bod_, havnt tried that yet, good idea thanks
[12:13] <bod_> xalanthyr, ok,.let me have a google'ij
[12:13] <GeorgeA> anyone know how to send song information from xmms to shoutcast?
[12:14] <pkundu> bod_, any idea how to check for memory leak
[12:15] <bod_> pkundu, nope,. ur talking to someone with 3 weeks linux experience,.,.lol,.,. ask in here,. someone else will no
[12:15] <gumis> any ideas?
[12:16] <pkundu> ok bod_
[12:16] <pkundu> no issue
[12:16] <Illusion_Master> i had a question about grub
[12:16] <bod_> gumis, does it freeze or just take ages?
[12:16] <Illusion_Master> if i install a os after i hav installed ubuntu will it reconise it
[12:17] <Pici> Illusion_Master: no, you'll need to re-install grub.
[12:17] <Pici> !grub > Illusion_Master (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:18] <bod_> anyways,.,. im off guys
[12:18] <bod_> bye
[12:18] <brobostigon> !grub
[12:18] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:18] <gumis> bod_: it's stopping at 'Grub Loading Stage 1.5, Grub Loading Please Wait', i waited some time but nothing to see
[12:19] <bashca> !mozilla-pluging
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-pluging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <FrikkinLazer> I found a bug.. not sure where to report it
[12:19] <mavi-> bashca: no g at the end of plugin
[12:19] <youngmusic> hey, i just installed a new ubuntu server (7.10).  It got a dhcp address during installation and i changed it to a static ip afterwards. However, something keeps changing /etc/resolv.conf. Does anyone know what is causing that?
[12:21] <brobostigon> youngmusic: resolv.conf changes when it tries to set a dns server to use,
[12:21] <bashca> !mozilla-plugin
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-plugin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <bashca> :)
[12:22] <Adarious> anyone from undead here?
[12:22] <Adarious> or not
[12:22] <youngmusic> Brobostigon: Yeah, but wat is 'it'? I set the dns servers manually, but what process keeps changing resolv.conf? I've restarted the network, so dhcp-client should be off.
[12:23] <brobostigon> youngmusic: set the dns server, then set the permissions on resolv.conf to read only, so that it cannot be changed again.
[12:24] <Illusion_Master> if i install a new os after ubuntu and grup will it reconise it?
[12:24] <Adarious> I came looking for a guild, guess I was misdirecrted
[12:24] <Javid> Illusion_Master, probably not
[12:25] <bastid_raZor> Illusion_Master; I think Pici just gave you the answer a few minutes ago
[12:25] <BuFF> could someone tell me how to install new desklets using gdesklet program and where to find 'em ?
[12:25] <youngmusic> brobostigon: yeah, someone on the forums suggested that too, but it's not an elegant solution, is it? It will result in a process trying to change a file every minute and being able to do so.