[09:22] <Guest505> My Plasma crashed and I can't do anything about it. If I am trying to restart it from another terminal with kstart5 plasmashell it says qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display qp.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb in" even though it was found
[09:22] <Guest505> Any solution or should I go back to Ubuntu as this is beyond annoying
 Gkjs
 gkjs
 9kjs
 Hello. If I would want to encrypt my system while installing but without vlm what should I do? From my understanding Ubuntu now lets you encrypt while installing without lvm right?
[18:08] <mmikowski> Donald: this may have changed with recent releases. With kubuntu up to 22.04 LTS, however, LVM was used by default for FDE, and there was no switch to turn it off. If that is still the case, then you will need to set up your file system the way you want it using the live USB, then install. That way you can use the existing partitions you created
[18:08] <mmikowski> without reformatting. Other examples include BTRFS over LUKS.
[18:09] <mmikowski> However, if you take that route, do be aware that it is non-standard, and therefore the amount of support available will decrease with the popularity of your topology. Standard lvm + LUKS + ext4 is very well tested and supported, so unless you have a special need to avoid the LVM, I'd suggest just going stock.
[18:11] <mmikowski> This is an example tutorial for LUKS + BTRFS. Ext4 would be similar: https://mutschler.dev/linux/ubuntu-btrfs-20-04/
[18:27] <Guest18> hi
[18:28] <Guest18> i need help
[18:28] <Guest18> in install camera driver in kubuntu
[19:27] <fusion1181> plasma-discover fails to launch after upgrade to latest kubuntu (X11). During upgrade there was a failed repo causing very long delays. upgrade-distro removed it successfully. I don't know if it is related to the upgrade or not.
[19:27] <fusion1181> launching from the cli does not give any additional information
[22:39] <IanC> Hi there. I'm having a problem with Dolphin and Kate on kubuntu 23.04. It used to be the case that when using either of these on protected directories or files it would pop up a password dialog to allow me to continue as sudo. Now it just throws up an error saying I need elevated privileges. I'm sure this must have been covered somewhere before but
[22:39] <IanC> after hours of googling I still can't find an answer. Any suggestions?


[20:25] <DarkFeather> Hello, all. I'm trying to commit a symlink to my repo, and bzr add <link> doesn't change the status in bzr status. Help?
[20:25] <DarkFeather> Also, I'm looking for a way to create BranchReferences rather than symlinks, if I can....
[20:30] <DarkFeather> Well, that's annoying. I can add it so long as the symlink doesn't point to a branch. ... Fine then.
[20:30] <DarkFeather> Anyone know how to make BranchReferences?


[23:51] <zx2c4> I woke up to see this garbage in my inbox... apparently somebody made a launchpad project impersonating the WireGuard team and then used the platform to send invitation join notices to a variety of highprofile kernel devs. The perpetrator of this impersonation attempt is a username called "roguescholar", who foolishly made me an admin (perhaps to bolster the fake team's credibility?), so I promptly moved to delete the thing. Yowza.
[23:51] <zx2c4> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MyLVJCXw/Screenshot_20200301-074823.png
[23:56] <zx2c4> Might want to lock down "roguescholar" account...


[01:43] <seattlegaucho> valorie: I should tell that idea to my daughter who works @ Best Buy :)
[01:43] <seattlegaucho> ... take that Geek Squad
[02:12] <Captainkrtek> hello seattlegaucho
[02:13] <seattlegaucho> hi there
[02:13] <Captainkrtek> nice day isn't it?
[02:14] <seattlegaucho> yep ... getting ready for the commute home
[02:14] <Captainkrtek> nice
[02:14] <Captainkrtek> what city do you live in?
[02:40] <seattlegaucho> Captainkrtek: bellevue
[02:40] <seattlegaucho> ... and work close to pike pl market
[02:40] <seattlegaucho> see around tomorrow
[02:40] <Captainkrtek> peace
[03:39] <valorie> anybody here on the bug squad and looking for a job?
[03:39] <valorie> https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=245
[05:51] <Captainkrtek> I may be
[05:52] <valorie> cool!
[05:52] <Captainkrtek> applying now, thanks :)
[05:53] <valorie> welcome; hope it works out
[05:58] <Captainkrtek> hmm does evince support PDF creation
[05:59] <valorie> libre office does
[05:59]  * valorie uses kubuntu, no idea about evince
[05:59] <Captainkrtek> evince is just a pdf program
[05:59] <valorie> ok
[05:59] <Captainkrtek> time to copy paste my resume :P
[06:00] <Captainkrtek> I have it online, not in file formate
[06:00] <valorie> ours is called Okular
[06:00] <Captainkrtek> what shell do you use?
[06:00] <Captainkrtek> never used kubuntu, pardon my ignorance
[06:00] <valorie> Bash, I believe
[06:01] <valorie> but some of the devels use some of the others
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> submitted :)
[06:07] <valorie> \o/
[06:08] <Captainkrtek> cross fingers!
[06:08] <Captainkrtek> and thanks :D
[06:14] <Captainkrtek> hello shirgall
[06:14] <shirgall> Howdy
[06:15] <Captainkrtek> how's it going?
[06:16] <shirgall> Not bad, of course, I'm not out drinking every night here at UDS because I brought my family with me.
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> hehe
[06:16] <Captainkrtek> how's UDS?
[06:17] <shirgall> Been pretty interesting. Lots of meaningful decisions like openstack and lightdm and good feedback on unity and unity-2d.
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> great
[06:17] <Captainkrtek> :)
[06:18] <shirgall> I know I'm in us-wa, but since I'm down near Vancouver, I tend to straddle -wa and -or
[06:18] <Captainkrtek> hehe no problem
[06:18] <shirgall> So you'll forgive me for not sticking my opinion in. :)
[06:19] <Captainkrtek> lol
[06:20] <valorie> not a problem
[06:20] <valorie> are you coming to OSCON this year?
[06:21] <shirgall> I always manage to miss it because of project work, but I will try.
[06:21] <valorie> I was there last year staffing the booth, and was hoping to meet some of the Oregon team
[06:21] <valorie> nobody showed up
[06:21] <valorie> how about CLS the weekend before?
[06:21] <shirgall> I was at the Natty release party, and it was poorly attended. :(
[06:21] <valorie> it was WELL worth it last year
[06:22] <valorie> we didn't end up having a party, since it would have been the day before linuxfest northwest
[06:22] <shirgall> Yeah.
[06:23] <shirgall> I haven't trie to get involved in the community summit before, but Jono is encouraging it too.
[06:24] <MarkDude> shirgall, listen to Jono
[06:24] <MarkDude> :)
[06:25] <Captainkrtek> hey MarkDude
[06:25] <MarkDude> Hello Captainkrtek
[06:26] <Captainkrtek> how's it going
[06:29] <MarkDude> Great
[06:30] <MarkDude> Planning a trip to Maker Faire onm the 21st


[10:38] <ifireball> anybody knows a step-by-step apache mod_ssl setup guide?
[10:38] <f0xmuld3r> Anway: I am scanning the info for the alternate version but I do not see any reason to use it since the Server version of edgy also has LVM
[10:38] <gravyface> f0xmuld3r: it probably does support LVM but perhaps you need to try the "expert mode" to select it.
[10:39] <slavik> mjg: you need the -smp kernel
[10:39] <f0xmuld3r> No: LVM is in the partition menu
[10:39] <f0xmuld3r> It just doesn't seem to work
[10:39] <franzturin> hello
[10:39] <slavik> linux-generic-smp or something like that
[10:39] <beetle11011> prestosd:  so, for example, you could make a directory under mnt called hdb, and then mount it like "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb"
[10:39] <franzturin> i like cooking
[10:39] <whyameye> if I wanted to load xmms, say, in workspace 2 from the command line, how would I do this (Gnome?)
[10:39] <franzturin> does anyone else like cooking???????????
[10:39] <f0xmuld3r> So I need to know what exact steps there are
[10:39] <franzturin> lets make a cookchannel
[10:39] <dv5237> mjg: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_enable_Multicore_Support
[10:39] <franzturin> for people, that like cooking!!!
[10:39] <gravyface> I'm going to try with now
[10:39] <mjg> slavik: Yes. I think the generic is correct. Then Select from Grub?
[10:39] <beetle11011> prestosd:  sorry, "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb"
[10:40] <slavik> mjg: yes ... you can edit the menu.lst to have the smp boot by default
[10:40] <ifireball> ninjamike: since I didin't have the time to study the new init system yet all I can sujject is that you "grep -R getty *" in your /etc dir
[10:40] <slavik> or remove the non smp kernel
[10:40] <Delkster> skreet, having the build-essential package installed should bring you the C++ standard library
[10:40] <slavik> gtg, have fun
[10:40] <skreet> Delkster: thanks.
[10:40] <Linuturk> my wireless connection is working, and I can scan for access points via the terminal, but the Networking
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> !ati
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:41] <Linuturk> my wireless connection is working, and I can scan for access points via the terminal, but the Networking applet in the System menu isn't displaying any wireless networks at all?
[10:41] <ninjamike> ahh, event.d
[10:41] <ninjamike> duh, thanks
[10:41] <mjg> slavik: Thanks. I'll research editing menu.lst online. You confirmed my question. Thanks again.
[10:41] <franzturin> #cooking
[10:41] <franzturin> JOIN ALL
[10:41] <franzturin> AND GET OP
[10:41] <prestosd> okay
[10:41] <prestosd> so far its working!!
[10:41] <franzturin> WTF
[10:41] <myavuzselim> does anybody have problems with mathml on firefox?
[10:41] <franzturin> that channel exists
[10:41] <franzturin> WTTF
[10:42] <franzturin> HOLY SHIT
[10:42] <boink> !language
[10:42] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:42] <dv5237> franzturin: please calm down
[10:42] <tiagoboldt> ompaul, :)
[10:42] <slavik> mjg: it just involves changing the defaultboot option towards the beginning
[10:42] <prestosd> wait, I cant mount it
[10:42] <myavuzselim> It does not refresh the graphics when it displays a subscript
[10:43] <prestosd> it says "mount point /mnt/hdb does not exist
[10:43] <prestosd> i formatted everything alright though
[10:43] <slavik> prestosd: does /mnt/hdb directory exist?
[10:44] <slavik> as in, mkdir /mnt/hdb
[10:44] <prestosd> lete me check
[10:44] <slavik> you mount a drive to a directory
[10:44] <slavik> unix/linux does not have multiple root directories like windows does
[10:44] <ninjamike> serial ports are awesome
[10:44] <slavik> everything is ONE giant filesystem
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !plf
[10:44] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[10:45] <slavik> have fun guys
[10:45] <Linuturk> does anyone know why the list of available wireless networks wouldn't show up in the Networking applet in Edgy in Gnome? My wireless works fine, but it isn't scanning via the applet, just the terminal.
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone help me get my Radeon 9250 card working
[10:45] <prestosd> mkdir /mnt/hdb didnt give an error
[10:46] <prestosd> but I still cant find the drive
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> i mean direct rendering enabled
[10:46] <qatsi> how do i use my gnome theme(icons etc..) with beryl ?
[10:46] <gravyface> f0xmuld3r: oh yeah, adding that "expert mode" opens up alot more options.  hit F6 when the CD boots up and add that debconf/priority=medium string to the end of the other options and hit ENTER
[10:46] <Linuturk> Network Manager can see them, but I removed it because it was locking up my machine
[10:46] <Linuturk> should I try Wifi Radar?
[10:47] <prestosd> i still cant find my new drive!!
[10:47] <prestosd> slavik? you there?
[10:47] <dav1n_> prestosd: explain your problem to me, ill try to help you, just relax :-)
[10:47] <prestosd> k
[10:47] <prestosd> sorry
[10:47] <prestosd> :)
[10:47] <dav1n_> prestosd: np, furstration is part of the job xD
[10:48] <prestosd> lol, thanks man
[10:48] <prestosd> ;)
[10:48] <Kannix_> Anybody using "evolution" as email client/MUA?
[10:48] <prestosd> okay, i just got help partitioning and formatting a 80GB
[10:48] <Kannix_> I have a question regarding headers in outgoing messages.
[10:48] <prestosd> HD that I just plugged in
[10:48] <prestosd> and now I'm trying to find out where it is and how to access it
[10:49] <prestosd> I think its hdb
[10:49] <ifireball> Kannix: I'm using it, not for a very long time though
[10:49] <prestosd> but I dont know where that is
[10:49] <thor> prestosd: is it a usb drive?
[10:49] <prestosd> no
[10:49] <n0dl|laptop> hello whenever i sudo apt-get update i get this error message http://pastebin.com/819283
[10:49] <prestosd> its an internal drive
[10:49] <dav1n_> prestosd: IDE or SATA
[10:49] <kurisu> df
[10:49] <prestosd> ide
[10:49] <thor> prestod: OK....just a sec
[10:49] <prestosd> i think
[10:49] <dav1n_> prestosd: first/only ide drive in the pc?
[10:49] <prestosd> the cable is ide atleast
[10:49] <prestosd> no
[10:49] <prestosd> its set as slave
[10:50] <prestosd> there is 1 other hd
[10:50] <prestosd> set as master
[10:50] <prestosd> the one im booted in right now
[10:50] <dav1n_> prestosd: okay, how many c/dvd drives do you have?
[10:50] <prestosd> 2 cd drives
[10:50] <prestosd> 1 is a burner
[10:50] <dav1n_> prestosd: also please dont spam the channel and try to make long sentences (just heads up)
[10:50] <prestosd> k
[10:50] <prestosd> sorry
[10:50] <prestosd> lol, im doing it again
[10:51] <dav1n_> prestosd: ok, go into the bios and tell me if your c/dvd drivers are on Ch.1 and your harddisks on Ch.3
[10:51] <prestosd> how do you do that?
[10:51] <makkk> how can i clear any settings that may have applied to a second screen? its calling my xserver to crash
[10:51] <dav1n_> prestosd: when you bootup your PC theres something in a corner like 'F1: setup'
[10:51] <prestosd> oh yah
[10:52] <prestosd> but what should i look for?
[10:52] <prestosd> because I'll have to logout of this chat
[10:52] <ifireball> makkk: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:52] <thor> dav1n_: fdisk -l will tell all the available partitions for him
[10:52] <Gnonthgol> I can't open https sites in firefox.
[10:53] <makkk> ifireball, its not that. i've messed with it a bunch. nothing worked. i created a new user, and all of the sudden all problems gone. same xorg.conf file though. so its some settings that need to manipulate
[10:53] <prestosd> hello? you guys still there?
[10:53] <thor> prestosd: are you in windows or ubuntu now?
[10:53] <dav1n_> prestosd: look in a corner, mostly its f1, f10, del or such things
[10:53] <prestosd> Im in ubuntu still? i didnt do anything
[10:53] <Sutur> I have two large drives, one installed inside the box, and another in an external drive that I consider my backup. I ONLY turn it on to back up. Previously I have just been copying and pasting from one drive to another to backup, but is there a safer option?
[10:53] <thor> prestosd: open a terminal window
[10:54] <prestosd> okay
[10:54] <prestosd> Its open
[10:54] <Kannix_> Sorry, I crashed. So, is anyone using Evolution for mail?
[10:54] <Pabloooo> hi when accesign a locl .php file the browser (firefox) doesnt show the file . instead it tries to download it! ideas?
[10:54] <ifireball> makkk: in that case those setting will probably be in some dodtfile (file whose name begins with a dot) in your home dir
[10:54] <makkk> ifireball, i would be able to login, and before all icons/shortcuts/system tray items would load, xserver would crash... but it worked for a few seconds. and now, with a new user it all works fine
[10:54] <kamui> what . dir do I delete to reset all of my gnome settings?  is it .gconf?
[10:54] <thor> prestosd: now type 'sudo fdisk -l' in the terminal and enter your password when asked
[10:54] <Wulfie> hey folks - I just installed Edgy - I have also installed kde - but either gnome or kde I can't seem to use ctrl-alt + to change my res
[10:54] <Wulfie> any ideas why?
[10:54] <makkk> ifireball, thanks. i was wondering if there was an easier way :)... there are a lot of dot files
[10:54] <ifireball> makkk: the .xsession-errors file in your home dir may give you a hint
[10:55] <makkk> hmm... sounds good. i'll look at it
[10:55] <Gnonthgol> Pabloooo: set the "Content-type" header in the php file
[10:55] <dav1n_> kamul: try .gdm .gnome .gconf that kind of stuff, dont know which it is though, theres an option in nautilus to show hidden .-dirs :)
[10:55] <Daniel4711> Anyone have any idea why "wget -r http://bullet.homelinux.com/" doesn't fetch recursively?
[10:55] <prestosd> okay, do you want to know the results?
[10:55] <thor> prestod: it should show you a list.../dev/hda1 /dev/hda2, etc
[10:55] <ifireball> makkk: it'll probably be called something similar to the app that made it
[10:55] <thor> prestod: is there an hdb?
[10:55] <prestosd> yes
[10:55] <dav1n_> Daniel14711: =R instead of -r?
[10:55] <qc__> is xgl a waste of time??? :)
[10:56] <amichai> can someone tell me what the txt-only chat client is that supports msn, yahoo etc like gaim
[10:56] <Daniel4711> dav1n_, Nah -R is Reject :)
[10:56] <kamui> dav1n_:  Ill try all of them
[10:56] <dav1n_> qc__: thats an opinion
[10:56] <dav1n_> amicahi: aMSN
[10:56] <thor> prestosd: is there a mount point shown for hdb1? (the system column)
[10:56] <tiagoboldt> qc__, it's eye candy, but after some time, just some pointless efects
[10:56] <dav1n_> aicahi: oh nvm, dont know any text-only
[10:56] <prestosd> it says linux
[10:56] <amichai> dav1n_: not that one, it was another one, u could use all the chats
[10:56] <qc__> tiagodboldt: was just curious
[10:56] <tiagoboldt> qc__, but it is worth the try!
[10:56] <prestosd> (under the system column)
[10:56] <dav1n_> amicahi: Kopete?
[10:56] <thor> prestosd: oops...nope...wait one. right...now type 'mount' in the terminal and see if hdb1 is mounted
[10:57] <qc__> tiagoboldt: i actually have it installed on my other box - but i wanted peoples opinions, its pretty much useless lol - other than swingy windows.
[10:57] <amichai> dav1n_: like kopete but only for terminal no x
[10:57] <Gnonthgol> Anyone having problem with https in firefox?
[10:57] <tanath> when i try to install opera, it says package not found, but i have this in my sources.list (which i've updated): deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[10:57] <dav1n_> amichai: sorry, I only know of terminal IRC clients like irssi/bitchx
[10:57] <tanath> Gnonthgol, not i
[10:58] <prestosd> i dont see any hdb's that it mounted
[10:58] <dasua> hello
[10:58] <Pabloooo> Gnonthgol: ok so its a problem inside the php file?
[10:58] <thor> prestosd: right...no problem. We need a directory name for hdb....what would you like to call it?
[10:58] <CVirus> !upgrade
[10:58] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[10:58] <prestosd> well, how about hdb?
[10:58] <prestosd> lol
[10:58] <dav1n_> prestosd: I would use like dvdburner or something
[10:58] <_tg_> I am having problems connecting to my wireless network on my laptop can someone help me
[10:58] <JohnM555> Hey, I need to install the driver for my netgear wireless with ndiswrapper, I have the files on my usb drive, and I know(think) the command I need to use is 'ndiswrapper -i netwg121.inf', but I'm not sure if there is a certain place I need to put it. Can anyone tell me?
[10:58] <dasua> any body now how to install ubuntu from a ftp or http server?
[10:58] <Daniel4711> Ok found out why - a very aggressive robots.txt on the server in question.
[10:59] <prestosd> except its a hd
[10:59] <Daniel4711> -erobots=off works fine
[10:59] <thor> prestosd: OK....now in the terminal type 'sudo mkdir /media/hdb'
[10:59] <dav1n_> prestosd: okay, maxtor? 80gb? 2ndhd or something
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> Pabloooo: It is a problem with the web server saying to Firefox it is a php file and not a html file
[10:59] <JohnM555> If anyone needs me to reword my question, just ask :)
[10:59] <prestosd> i just did this a second ago, only i typed mkdir /mnt/hdb
[10:59] <RawSewage> whats the shell script command to upload a file to a remote server that requires username/password
[11:00] <Pabloooo> Gnonthgol: ok ill try it . i apreciate your help thanks! :)
[11:00] <segfault> RawSewage, scp maybe
[11:00] <thor> prestosd: ok...in the terminal type 'ls -l /mnt' and see if the directory hdb exists
[11:00] <prestosd> okay, i made /media/hdb
[11:00] <RawSewage> segfault, ok ty
[11:00] <ifireball> RawSewage: depends on the type of server
[11:00] <RawSewage> ifireball, Linux
[11:00] <prestosd> yep its there
[11:01] <thor> prestosd: ok we will use media. now type in the terminal 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb'
[11:01] <ifireball> RawSewage: e.g. http/ftp/ssh/nfs/cifs
[11:01] <RawSewage> ifireball, ty
[11:01] <RawSewage> oh
[11:01] <RawSewage> ifireball, I can use ftp or ssh
[11:01] <prestosd> okay, I typed that
[11:01] <lk11mn> someone help me, im scared.. i just resized my ntfs partition with ntfsresize now i want to delete and recreate the partition so the size matches up...  how do i know the size (in sectors) since the ntfs partition has been resized?
[11:01] <JohnM555> Hey, I need to install the driver for my netgear wireless with ndiswrapper, I have the files on my usb drive, and I know(think) the command I need to use is 'ndiswrapper -i netwg121.inf', but I'm not sure if there is a certain place I need to put it. Can anyone tell me?
[11:01] <thor> prestosd: now type 'mount' and see if hdb1 is in the list
[11:02] <tanath> i can't install opera. it says package not found, but i have this in my sources.list (which i've updated): deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[11:02] <prestosd> yep its there now
[11:02] <dnite> i just added a new udev rule so my usb hard drive will always be mounted right.. but now, when i mount the usb hard drive, i get 2 icons for it showing up on the desktop instead of just one.. is there any way to either turn off the icons on the desktop or how to fix this so only the one shows up?
[11:02] <LGKeiz> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[11:02] <thor> prestosd: ok now your new drive is located at /media/mnt and you can create directories on it or copy files to it etc.
[11:02] <ifireball> RawSewage: for ftp you can use wput (not installed by default, you may need to apt-get it), for ssh you can use scp of sftp
[11:02] <prestosd> cool
[11:02] <RawSewage> ifireball, ok ty
[11:02] <prestosd> but i have one other question
[11:03] <Fastly> anyone else here know how to setup a postfix smtp email server with smtp auth?
[11:03] <tim167> I finally installed ubuntu on my IBM Thinkpad, yippee...but... i chose the wrong keyboard lqyout, how can I change this ?
[11:03] <thor> prestosd: to get the drive added at bootup you need to add a line to /etc/fstab
[11:03] <compudaze> what is the 'next' key?
[11:03] <prestosd> is there any 1 command or something (or anything) that you can use to copy complete filesystems to another hd
[11:03] <dv5237> tim167: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[11:04] <tim167> thanks, Ill try that
[11:04] <tanath> can anyone help?
[11:04] <thor> prestosd: a hard drive in linux looks like any other directory, so you can use wildcards just as you would for copying a directory to another directory
[11:04] <prestosd> but would it boot?
[11:04] <dv5237> prestosd: no you dont have a boot manager on that hd
[11:05] <Gnonthgol> I updated to edgy and now firefox can't open https
[11:05] <prestosd> urg
[11:05] <prestosd> how can I?
[11:05] <dv5237> prestosd: not sure if thats possible whitout a clean install
[11:05] <prestosd> hm
[11:05] <prestosd> okay
[11:05] <Intangir> how do i see what libraries an exe loads? ldd doesnt work on exes
[11:06] <thor> prestosd: you want to dual boot with windows?
[11:06] <tim167> dv5237: testing...a//o | |**** yes my keyboard layout is correct now ! thanks!
[11:06] <Intangir> a binary i mean
[11:06] <prestosd> i already am
[11:06] <dv5237> tim167: congrats :) have fun
[11:06] <thor> prestosd: what do you want to boot from the new drive?
[11:06] <tim167> :d
[11:06] <segfault> tanath, try apt-cache search opera see if anything gets returned
[11:06] <flasher> how do i re-install java?
[11:06] <tanath> segfault, yeah, i have config files from when i had it before
[11:07] <prestosd> I want to copy my current filesystem (configuration and everything) to my 80GB HD for more space, but I don't want to reinstall
[11:07] <dv5237> flasher: sudo apt-get remove --purge <jave.name> && sudo apt-get install <java.name>
[11:07] <segfault> tanath, it is possible they havent populated the commerical repository yet
[11:07] <qatsi> is there any way to get two monitors working ?
[11:07] <tanath> segfault, it's there. i can see it in my browser
[11:07] <thor> prestosd: no need in linux....the 80G is part of the filesystem...if you want to share it with windows you need to reformat it as a fat32 drive
[11:07] <prestosd> nonono i dont want to share it with windows
[11:08] <maxb> Having filed a bug in Launchpad, what's the recommended way to (gently) agitate, if it draws no response?
[11:08] <Arron76> prestosd : copy the filesystem over, then install grub / lilo on the new hd pointing to the new config files
[11:08] <tanath> segfault, i could download it and install it with dpkg, but i'd like to know why it's not working with aptitude
[11:08] <flasher> dv5237: and how do i know the java name?
[11:08] <Gnonthgol> prestosd: you know that the config is in /etc and user profiles is in /home what else do you need to copy?
[11:08] <dv5237> !xinerama | qatsi
[11:08] <ubotu> qatsi: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[11:08] <prestosd> Arron76: how?
[11:08] <dv5237> flasher: is it for firefox?
[11:08] <qatsi> dv5237: at least a howto :D thats what i needed :D thank you !
[11:08] <segfault> tanath, how do u know its there, r looking in pool dir, that would encompass edgy and dapper pkgs in that repository
[11:08] <dv5237> flasher: 'dpkg -l | java'
[11:09] <dv5237> flasher: 'dpkg -l | grep java' sorry
[11:09] <prestosd> Gnonthgol: I don't want to have to reconfig everything!! I have modded ubuntu a lot, other than just my home directory
[11:09] <dv5237> qatsi: you're welcome have fun wont be easy though
[11:09] <thor> prestosd: why bother with all that? the 80G is part of the linux file system and you won't gain anything by moving it all to hdb
[11:09] <tanath> segfault, in pool
[11:09] <flasher> dv5237: well, i have firefox, and java works fine with that. I want to fix java for opera
[11:09] <tanath> segfault, http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/opera/
[11:09] <prestosd> thor: yes i will
[11:10] <Spee_Der> Good afternoon everyone.
[11:10] <dv5237> flasher: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1659144 maybe this will help
[11:10] <Gnonthgol> prestosd: but the only changes in the config is in /etc
[11:10] <thor> prestosd: do you have IM? (yahoo or msn?)
[11:10] <prestosd> yes i have gaim
[11:10] <prestosd> with an aim and msn account
[11:10] <qatsi> brb, xorg.conf is going to be destroyed :D
[11:10] <segfault> tanath, again the pool dir in a repository contains pkgs ffor all distributions in the repository, in this case edgy and dapper, maybe that is a dapper pkg
[11:10] <prestosd> whats your screenname?
[11:10] <thor> prestosd<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on msn
[11:10] <dv5237> hope he made a backup..
[11:10] <prestosd> k
[11:11] <prestosd>  addding you......
[11:11] <black_13> how do you manuall install .deb package?
[11:11] <tanath> segfault, right... :(
[11:11] <kandinski> every time I do a dhclient I get some funky nameservers that a) don't appear on /etc/dhc3/dhclient.conf and b) aren't the nameservers from my ISP
[11:11] <tanath> black_13, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:11] <mo> black_13: sudo dpkg -i
[11:11] <kandinski> where else does /etc/resolv.conf get populated from?
[11:11] <Gnonthgol> any experts on firefox ssl that can tell me why fireefox can't open https
[11:12] <Subhuman> i just installed edgy on my vaio - the frequency scaling panel applet shows the CPU speed changing, but i dont have the option to change the type of scaling (power saving full power etc)., its not at the bottom of the prefs, does any1 know if another packahge is needeD?
[11:12] <tanath> Gnonthgol, check your settings?
[11:14] <rambo3> !info ipcop
[11:14] <ubotu> Package ipcop does not exist in any distro I know
[11:14] <Gnonthgol> tanath: I have checked the about:config, and renamed .mozila but no luck
[11:14] <rambo3> !info ip-cop
[11:14] <ubotu> Package ip-cop does not exist in any distro I know
[11:14] <aj__> does anyone know how to make it so ubuntu doesn't let me click on the touchpad i'm not sure which option in X it is for that
[11:14] <bimberi> rambo3: ipcop is a distribution in itself, not part of one like Ubuntu
[11:15] <rambo3> damn
[11:15] <segfault> Subhuman, read docs on powernowd that is what handles cpu freq scaling, u cant set that from the applet in gnome
[11:15] <rambo3> clarkconnect too?
[11:16] <Subhuman> segfault, umm you can, ive read the applets docs, the screenshot differs from what i see.
[11:16] <lexsus> Does Skype work on Dapper?
[11:17] <RawSewage> yes
[11:17] <RawSewage> whats the script command to enter a password on a password prompt
[11:18] <RawSewage> on a remote host
[11:18] <Subhuman> ?
[11:18] <dv5237> RawSewage: what do you mean?
[11:18] <Subhuman> RawSewage, umm if your trying to ssh
[11:18] <Subhuman> and the password isnt showing as you enter it
[11:18] <RawSewage> I want to upload a file with a script using scp, but the password prompt stops it
[11:18] <Subhuman> that is normal unix behavior
[11:18] <lexsus> RawSewage: how?
[11:18] <Subhuman> RawSewage, ahh.
[11:18] <Subhuman> use ssh keys
[11:18] <Subhuman> !ssh
[11:18] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:18] <RawSewage> ty
[11:18] <lexsus> RawSewage: E: Couldn't find package skype
[11:19] <lexsus> is there a SKYPE for Dapper?
[11:19] <Subhuman> hmm, well google "ssh keys", you cna do passwordless logins with it.
[11:19] <Trunkz> Hey folks, small question
[11:19] <RawSewage> lexsus, yes
[11:19] <dnite> i'm getting a very strange problem here.. i have a usb hard drive.. i added a udev rule to so it would always be on the same device.. and added it to fstab .. but if i restart the system, i get a crash saying that fsck exited with error code 9 (probably because the usb hard drive isn't plugged in) .. why is this?
[11:19] <lexsus> RawSewage: E: Couldn't find package skype
[11:19] <RawSewage> lexsus, go to Skype's page
[11:19] <Trunkz> I have a laptop.. fairly old.. (P3 900Mhz, 256MB Ram)
[11:19] <lexsus> RawSewage: skype.com ?
[11:19] <RawSewage> lexsus, I think you have to download the Ubuntu package from skype.com
[11:19] <Trunkz> Is it viable to install Ubuntu, and wud it be fairly responsive?
[11:19] <lexsus> ok cheers
[11:19] <lexsus> RawSewage: does Skype work with dial-up?
[11:19] <RawSewage> lexsus,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:20] <lexsus> RawSewage: whats edgy?
[11:21] <webben> lexus: latest release of Ubuntu
[11:21] <Trunkz> Guys?.. Justwanting ur opinion, since I dont have an O/S on the laptop atm
[11:21] <Subhuman> !edgy
[11:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[11:21] <RawSewage> lexsus, sorry  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[11:21] <Trunkz> its a P3 900Mhz with 256MB Ram
[11:21] <Subhuman> Trunkz, yeah itd be cool
[11:21] <linuxwolf> hi
[11:21] <Subhuman> youd need to use the alternativ einstall cd
[11:21] <Trunkz> Subhuman: wud it be responsive tho? Dont want it to lag
[11:21] <webben> Trunkz, depends what you need to do with it
[11:21] <Subhuman> jus cuz the RAM would mean the live CD would be SLOW
[11:21] <Trunkz> webben: run msn, err.. openoffice? basic stuff really
[11:22] <Trunkz> browse the web :p
[11:22] <Subhuman> Trunkz, yeah i ran ubuntu on a amd 800mhz with 256mb of ram
[11:22] <Trunkz> thats it
[11:22] <Subhuman> it runs better than xp for sure.
[11:22] <Trunkz> ooh k :D
[11:22] <Trunkz> good good
[11:22] <Trunkz> I'm not a noob to linux, so not too worried
[11:22] <webben> Trunkz, gaim and openoffice will be okay; applications will load slowly however
[11:22] <Trunkz> np
[11:22] <Subhuman> Trunkz, well ubuntu is a soft landing if your coming from windows :D
[11:22] <Trunkz> ;p
[11:22] <Trunkz> so.. shud I just go and install the latest ubuntu
[11:22] <Trunkz> or install ubuntu 5.10?
[11:22] <webben> Trunkz, you might do better with a more lightweight solution like Xubuntu ... on the other hand the Gnome desktop is more newbie friendly
[11:23] <Subhuman> Trunkz, go with dapper
[11:23] <Subhuman> its the most stable.
[11:23] <Subhuman> 6.06
[11:23] <Trunkz> I kinda like gnome
[11:23] <bruenig> xubuntu is very nice
[11:23] <lexsus> how can I know if im running 6.06 LTS or 6.10?
[11:23] <Trunkz> Nvr tried xubuntu, and hated kde
[11:23] <lexsus> RawSewage: ?
[11:23] <webben> Trunkz, xubuntu = xfce
[11:23] <webben> it doesn't really matter which you installl
[11:23] <Trunkz> yeah I mean xfce
[11:23] <Trunkz> never really tried that desktop gui
[11:23] <bimberi> Edgy is fine for new installs, and might even be better on older hardware than dapper
[11:23] <webben> you can always apt-get xubuntu-desktop or apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <aldwin> can anyone help me, i wanna know more about linux, unix command line administration and stuffs
[11:24] <Trunkz> anyway
[11:24] <lexsus> does xfce run faster on slower systems?
[11:24] <Trunkz> 6.06 or 6.10
[11:24] <Trunkz> So I can start dl'ing
[11:24] <webben> lexsus: that's the theory
[11:24] <Subhuman> Trunkz, 6.06 is more stable,
[11:24] <aldwin> is there any good link where in i can start learning more about linux???
[11:24] <Trunkz> 6.06 it is then
[11:24] <Subhuman> 6.10 has sorta newer apps, but it might crash and burn now and then
[11:24] <Trunkz> aldwin: ubuntuguide.org :)
[11:24] <Subhuman> so 6.06 is prob easier for the new linu user.
[11:24] <aldwin> ah okay
[11:24] <aldwin> thanks trunkz
[11:25] <Trunkz> np :)
[11:25] <kamui> jesus, this is really really unstable
[11:25] <Trunkz> xD
[11:25] <Trunkz> When I installed 6.10, it lagged abit
[11:25] <Trunkz> compared to 5.10 on my laptop a while back
[11:25] <lexsus> kamui: pls dont use the Lords name in vain!  thanks
[11:26] <Trunkz> Gah.. downloading sluggishly
[11:26] <linuxwolf> if i use apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to edgy ( i have breezy) and , i stop it , when i do it again , the packages downloaded, are not re-downloaded, and are instaled propelly , no ? (dist-upgrade will see if there are packages downloaded and in the correct moment , will install it , within the others downloaded , no ? )
[11:27] <Captain_Redbeard> Hey guys, does anyone have any experience with nvclock?
[11:27] <linuxwolf> so i don't have to use dpkg -i or so
[11:27] <Trunkz> Subhuman, can I not just install 5.10 now, and then upgrade to 6.06?
[11:27] <bimberi> linuxwolf: actually the recommended path is breezy -> dapper -> edgy
[11:27] <kandinski> every time I do a dhclient I get some funky nameservers that a) don't appear on /etc/dhc3/dhclient.conf and b) aren't the nameservers from my ISP
[11:27] <kandinski> where else does /etc/resolv.conf get populated from?
[11:28] <Trunkz> kandinski: not if ur connected to a router :)
[11:28] <Subhuman> Trunkz, yeah of course.
[11:28] <Subhuman> !upgrade
[11:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[11:28] <Trunkz> it wont do any funky stuff.. like break a few packages?
[11:28] <Subhuman> umm it shouldnt do.
[11:28] <Trunkz> If not, then I'll jus pop in my 5.10 CD :p
[11:28] <linuxwolf> late , for the next time i will do it , because i have edgy in my repositories , and is downloading know (dist-upgrade)
[11:29] <FirstStrike> oh boy
[11:29] <FirstStrike> cross your fingers on that one linuxwolf
[11:29] <seth_|> Hirvinen: can anyone recommend any good modern motherboards which support AMD processors?
[11:29] <FirstStrike> Oh, you bet
[11:29] <bimberi> linuxwolf: anyway, dist-upgrade won't redownload packages, it resumes
[11:29] <Trunkz> seth_|: Asus
[11:29] <Trunkz> DFI if ur pushing i :P
[11:29] <Trunkz> it*
[11:29] <linuxwolf> ok
[11:29] <Eric44> I've always had problems using dist-upgrade. Just re-installing seems to work best.
[11:29] <Trunkz> but Asus is the way to go ;)
[11:30] <FirstStrike>  EPoX EP-9U1697GLI Socket 939 ULi M1697
[11:30] <Trunkz> Well I kinda dont have time atm
[11:30] <AlReece45> My sound works with most of ubuntu, but I can't seem to get it working with games running with wine
[11:30] <FirstStrike> That's an awesome mobo
[11:30] <seth_|> Trunkz: Ubuntu 'Edgy' will run on something like Asus + K2 4000+ ??
[11:30] <Fastly> anyone here got smtp auth working for postfix on edgy?
[11:30] <cryptonic> Does anyone know why the search option in gnome isn't finding files like emails etc?
[11:30] <Trunkz> .. it'll run on a P3 900Mhz
[11:30] <Trunkz> :p
[11:30] <FirstStrike> seth_|: Uh yes...
[11:30] <Trunkz> So ofcourse it'll run on an X2 4000+
[11:30] <nazgjunk> oy
[11:31] <lupine_85> Fastly: works in dappr
[11:31] <lupine_85> dunno about edgy though (IMO it's not really a great idea to have an edgy server ;) )
[11:31] <seth_|> FirstStrike: cool.. don't know if i should be waiting for the next release of Ubuntu..simply because it would have a newer stock kernel.
[11:31] <FirstStrike> I've seen ubuntu running on a 200 mhz laptop
[11:31] <seth_|> Old hardware is fine.
[11:31] <nazgjunk> ive got a few 6.06 lts cd's here... if i install it, will i have a compiler? because i'll need that to get internet working
[11:31] <lupine_85> ubuntu will run on a 386SX :p
[11:31] <seth_|> it's the new ones.. i had problems with like the Intel DG965RY boards
[11:32] <lupine_85> nazgjunk: yes, you will
[11:32] <FirstStrike> Even with the newest hardware I've never had any issues.
[11:32] <nazgjunk> yay
[11:32] <nazgjunk> then i may consider installing it :)
[11:32] <lupine_85> just install "build-essential" (it's on the CD) and you're away
[11:32] <FirstStrike> I just installed this new mobo a few days ago and it runs like a champ
[11:32] <needhelp> Hi, need help, I cant switch between users anymore. When clicking Quit->Switch User, what appears is a just a password-prompt for <this> user, instead of a new userlogin which is what is excepted.
[11:32] <seth_|> FirstStrike: maybe it was just the bad Intel board woes on my part then.
[11:32] <linuxwolf> is so bad to upgrade to edgy , directly , instead of fist upgrade to dapper ? ( i have just re-installed ubantu , the saturday , and it doesn't have any aditional package installed )
[11:33] <black_13> what does the following mean http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CgwcMb25.html
[11:33] <lupine_85> linuxwolf: rreally really really bad
[11:33] <seth_|> Also.. any way to get the nifty effects on Edgy .. like FC 6 has?
[11:33] <ey> hello how does this "write" command work .cause i want to send on of my friends a message .yeah we are on server and chatting but wanna know .how to write a letter to my friend
[11:33] <FirstStrike> There is some hardware that ubuntu will have trouble with; though I've never seen anybody with an unsupported motherboard before. It's usually their wireless card or sound card.
[11:33] <lupine_85> !beryl
[11:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[11:33] <black_13> i am trying to install linuxants driver loader
[11:33] <lupine_85> seth_|: "yes" :D
[11:33] <seth_|> lupine_85: HOW????
[11:33] <lupine_85> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/
[11:33] <lupine_85> or wait 'till feisty is released
[11:34] <ey> hello how does this "write" command work .cause i want to send on of my friends a message .yeah we are on server and chatting but wanna know .how to write a letter to my friend  .please someone help me .how does this write command work .i have triyed " write the-nickname and then the message but does not work :S
[11:34] <seth_|> OKays!
[11:34] <seth_|> tks
[11:34] <seth_|> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/
[11:35] <lupine_85> 32 bit edgy... 64 bit kernel
[11:35] <sagarp> for some reason, ubuntu has stopped recognizing files...for example it doesnt remember that "png, jpg, gif" etc are files of type "image"
[11:35] <[g2] > anybody up for a GDT partitioning table question regarding Edgy on the the Intel Mac Mini ?
[11:35] <seth_|> I've been using raw Debian for years.. and I'm SO happy with Ubuntu now..
[11:35] <seth_|> i love all the hardware support.. it's very refreshing!
[11:36] <Tokenbad> anyone know what would cause proftpd to stop accounts from working?  it was setup and working...and one day...had a friend try to login and he can't...even though the account was working the day before...
[11:36] <passifalsi> id like my laptop (ubuntu) to be a gateway for an embedded ubuntu via eth0. This has a fixed ip. on my laptop i run dhcpd or what else?
[11:36] <Trunkz> bah dont have time
[11:36] <ifireball> ey: write excepts the message to be sent on the standard input, e.g. you type "write <username> [enter] " then type your message and type ctrl+D to finish
[11:36] <Trunkz> gonna have to install 5.10
[11:37] <ifireball> ey: or you can do this in one line with echo "your msg here" | write <username>
[11:37] <Tokenbad> he will enter his username and then it just says connection failed...and logoff....without even asking for password
[11:38] <sagarp> anyone know why ubuntu forgot information about file types, and how to fix it??
[11:38] <worldplay_RapidF> anyone here that can help me install ubuntu 10.6 after just downloading it?  i wanna dual boot windows as my primary one and ubuntu as my secondary OS
[11:39] <Trunkz> yeah
[11:39] <linuxwolf> so , i should stop to download the packages , delete them
[11:39] <Trunkz> I'll install 5.10 for now
[11:39] <erUSUL> !install | worldplay_RapidF
[11:39] <ubotu> worldplay_RapidF: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:39] <jackrazz> is there a good channel for evolution, I can't resize inline images in my email
[11:39] <linuxwolf> change the repositories
[11:39] <worldplay_RapidF> how do i install it?
[11:39] <worldplay_RapidF> double clicK?
[11:40] <erUSUL> worldplay_RapidF: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[11:40] <ZirJoker> why vlc player hides itself sometimes? i cant bring it up again
[11:40] <jackrazz> anyone know the channel for evolution email
[11:40] <ZirJoker> worldplay_RapidF what are you trying to install?
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> the newest ubutnu
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> ubuntu*
[11:41] <erUSUL> jackrazz: no but gnome projects usually live in irc.gimp.org
[11:41] <ZirJoker> are you already using ubuntu?
[11:41] <black_13> what wireless tool should be install for cardbus type wireless card?
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> no i just dl it
[11:41] <ZirJoker> you are using windows?
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> windows pro
[11:41] <ZirJoker> ok
[11:41] <ZirJoker> you downloaded
[11:41] <ZirJoker> ubuntu desktop
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> ya
[11:41] <ZirJoker> right?
[11:41] <worldplay_RapidF> i guess
[11:41] <ZirJoker> dont gess
[11:41] <ZirJoker> xD
[11:41] <troy>  can someone tell me how to fix this: When I run apt-get, I get the following error and it exits "Segmentation faulty tree... 50%"
[11:41] <ZirJoker> desktop version or sever version?
[11:42] <worldplay_RapidF> i got it form here
[11:42] <worldplay_RapidF> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[11:42] <worldplay_RapidF> ya desktop
[11:42] <jackrazz> ok, i'll check,  trying to figure out if the html editor is as primative as it appears
[11:42] <ZirJoker> ok
[11:42] <ZirJoker> desktop
[11:42] <ZirJoker> well
[11:42] <ZirJoker> burn it in a cd
[11:43] <needhelp> Hi, need help, I cant switch between users anymore. When clicking Quit->Switch User, what appears is a just a password-prompt for <this> user, instead of a new userlogin which is what is excepted.
[11:43] <worldplay_RapidF> do you know of a program thats free i could use to do that
[11:43] <ZirJoker> and reboot your pc make sure it can boot from a cd
[11:43] <ZirJoker> and ubuntu live cd will boot
[11:43] <nasragiel> where can i save a command that it is executed before xorg starts?
[11:43] <Trunkz> Once 5.10 installs
[11:43] <ZirJoker> it is easy from there
[11:43] <Trunkz> need to put my wan drivers, and start up ndiswrapper
[11:43] <Trunkz> and I'm set
[11:43] <worldplay_RapidF> joker did u get my msg?
[11:43] <ifireball> worldplay_RapidF: www.deepburner.com <- free CD burner for windows
[11:44] <worldplay_RapidF> anyone know if thats good or not?
[11:44] <ompaul> needhelp, so start a terminal (applications accessories terminal) and type w and how many entries have you got in the TTY column?
[11:44] <ZirJoker> needhelp try to type exit and then the other user name
[11:45] <ifireball> worldplay_RapidF: I didn't use it much (I try to use windows as little as possible), but it seemed ok as far as I could see
[11:45] <ZirJoker> i almost dont use windows at all
[11:45] <ZirJoker> xD
[11:45] <needhelp> ompaul: 3 lines: :0, pts/0, pts/2
[11:45] <jackrazz> urUSUL, yep evolution channel was there...thanks
[11:45] <ZirJoker> only my brother uses it to work in autocad :P
[11:46] <ifireball> ZirJoker: you're a luckey man, I have to use it at work
[11:46] <ZirJoker> ifireball u.u sorry to hear that xD
[11:46] <needhelp> ZirJoker: I can logout and login to another. But i donw want to logout, but rather temporary switch to another user
[11:46] <ZirJoker> ooh...
[11:47] <ZirJoker> i just know how to log out
[11:47] <ZirJoker> xD
[11:47] <worldplay_RapidF> ZirJoker, when i install ubuntu can i make it so a boot screen comes up and if i dont choose ubuntu in like 5 seconds it boots windows? b.c this is a family computer
[11:47] <yanis> I want to remove the ubuntu-artwork,what package should I remove?
[11:47] <ZeroSmoke> anyone here use saitek game controllers in linux?
[11:47] <ZirJoker> i have used linux since 1 month :D
[11:47] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, yeah that can be done
[11:47] <ompaul> needhelp, so are you already logged in twice?
[11:47] <ompaul> needhelp, ctrlalt f7 and f8
[11:47] <linuxwolf> gksudo 'update-manager -d' is the same that use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[11:47] <ZirJoker> hmmm
[11:48] <worldplay_RapidF> bruenig: how do i do that?
[11:48] <ifireball> ZirJoker: braindead sysadmins have to make everything MS-based... <.<
[11:48] <needhelp> ompaul: Am I logged in twice?? F7=this screen, F8=a  term window
[11:48] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, do you have it installed? I thought you didn't
[11:48] <worldplay_RapidF> no
[11:48] <ZirJoker> ifireball X_X
[11:48] <asdf_> does anyone know how to set your default SSID for network-admin
[11:48] <Tokenbad> anyone know what would cause proftpd to stop accounts from working?  it was setup and working...and one day...had a friend try to login and he can't...even though the account was working the day before...he will enter his username and then it just says connection failed...and logoff....without even asking for password
[11:48] <worldplay_RapidF> bruenig msg me plz
[11:48] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, you would edit, the menu.lst and put windows on the top of the list
[11:49] <ZirJoker> haahaha
[11:49] <ZirJoker> needhelp those are... work areas like other desktops
[11:49] <AlReece45> Zirjoker: same here, just for games. Its not like the games I want to run are very new and require much anyway. the most requiring ones are Half Life and Diablo II :-(
[11:49] <asdf_> my SSID is somehow defaulted not to my home network in network-admin.  does anyone know a way to change this?
[11:49] <ZirJoker> it is very useful
[11:49] <worldplay_RapidF> bruenig msg me plz
[11:49] <black_13> what i enter ifconfig i dont see wlan0 what yould cause that?
[11:49] <bruenig> !msg
[11:49] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:49] <ZirJoker> Alreece45 why dont you try  wine??
[11:49] <ifireball> Tokenbad: you may find hints iv /var/log
[11:50] <worldplay_RapidF> o ok
[11:50] <asdf_> Anyone know how to change your default SSID in network-admin?
[11:50] <AlReece45> ZirJoker: no sound in wine. can't seem to fix it. :-/
[11:50] <ZirJoker> Alreece45 x_x that sucks
[11:50] <worldplay_RapidF> bruenig: then what
[11:50] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, that's it.
[11:50] <worldplay_RapidF> ? how do i set a timelimit?
[11:50] <needhelp> ompaul: Am I logged in twice then? F8 gives me some statusinfo (no prompt) in console mode
[11:50] <vladi111> hi does anyone know what I need to type into /boot/grub/menu.lst to get WinXp to boot up? I have ubuntu booting off my master HD, XP is installed on my slave and I also have a separate SATA hd
[11:50] <ompaul> needhelp, yes
[11:51] <bruenig> next time you restart, windows will be on top and there will be a timeout set at 10 by default
[11:51] <ompaul> needhelp, no
[11:51] <worldplay_RapidF> ok cool
[11:51] <ZirJoker> Alreece45 i only play linux games like warsow and nexiuz
[11:51] <worldplay_RapidF> thx ;p
[11:51] <bun-bun> does the default ubuntu kernel have evdev built in?
[11:51] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, the menu.lst is located at /boot/grub/menu.lst just so you know
[11:51] <needhelp> ompaul: how do i switch user (without logging out first) ?
[11:51] <worldplay_RapidF> is installing ubuntu like installing windows?
[11:51] <AlReece45> asdf_: network-admin automatically connects to any network you've connected to before. You have to go in with gconf and delete some keys related to the network ssids
[11:51] <ZirJoker> hmmm
[11:51] <cheesy> does a html/css editor come with edgy
[11:52] <ZirJoker> i think desktop with live cd version its much easier than installing windows
[11:52] <ompaul> needhelp, the idea is that you should be able to log in more than once, and if you see :0 and :1 you are logged in, if you use the switch user on dapper it works
[11:52] <ZirJoker> just be carefull with the partition stuff
[11:52] <nasragiel> where can i save a command that it is executed before xorg starts?
[11:52] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, when you put the disc it, and you click start or install ubuntu a desktop will show up and there will be an icon on it that says install. Clicking on it will initiate an install and the install is very simple and self explanatory
[11:52] <worldplay_RapidF> ya i alrdy left a 30gb for linux i just reformatted sunday
[11:52] <asdf_> AlReece45: where abouts in gconf-editor?
[11:52] <inglor> hey, where do I get the ubuntu torrent? normal download is kind of slow
[11:52] <AlReece45> asdf_: ALT + FT, then type 'gconf-editor', open /system/networking/wireless/networks
[11:52] <nasragiel> cheesy, every editor is good enough for writing html, take gedit its already installed
[11:53] <worldplay_RapidF> bruenig do you got trillian?
[11:53] <bruenig> worldplay_RapidF, I use gaim
[11:53] <cheesy> thx nasragiel
[11:53] <vladi111> does anyone know what I need to type into /boot/grub/menu.lst to get WinXp to boot up? I have ubuntu booting off my master HD, XP is installed on my slave?
[11:53] <asdf_> AlReece45: in system i don't have networking..only dns_sd gstreamer http_proxy proxy and smb
[11:53] <ZirJoker> you can administrate those 30 gb like... 2 gb for swap memory and 28 to whole linux, just choose to administrate the partitions manually
[11:53] <worldplay_RapidF> gaim?
[11:53] <aztun> hi all
[11:53] <inglor> anyone? where do I download the ubuntu 6.10 torrent?
[11:53] <dilbert> Ill never install XP again.
[11:54] <aldwin> hi too
[11:54] <inglor> grre :/
[11:54] <aztun> may anyone help me?? cant get packet forwarding to work on edgy server
[11:54] <dilbert> inglor, you can get the torrent from the official ubuntu homepage
[11:54] <needhelp> ompaul: Alright, I did altctr-F1 and logged in there. Now command w gives me a new line: "tty1". But the problem is still that the System->Quit->Switch User-option doesnt work properly.
[11:54] <aztun> I allready edit /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:54] <inglor> dilbert, can't find it, mind telling me where I might find it?
[11:55] <nasragiel> where can i save a command that it is executed before xorg starts?
[11:55] <aztun> and then this line iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j MASQUERADE
[11:55] <ompaul> needhelp, what version of ubuntu are u using?
[11:55] <aztun> which worked for me before
[11:55] <aztun> but now doesnt work
[11:55] <sethk> aztun, did you run the command to use the contents of sysctl.conf?  just editing does nothing (unless you restarted)
[11:55] <needhelp> ompaul: 6.06
[11:55] <ey> hello how does this "write" command work .cause i want to send on of my friends a message .yeah we are on server and chatting but wanna know .how to write a letter to my friend  .please someone help me .how does this write command work .i have triyed " write the-nickname and then the message but does not work :S
[11:55] <aztun> I restarte sethk
[11:55] <sethk> aztun, and you don't need or want iptables rules for most packet forwarding situations
[11:55] <ifireball> ey: write excepts the message to be sent on the standard input, e.g. you type "write <username> [enter] " then type your message and type ctrl+D to finish
[11:55] <aztun> I can see the router using ping, and have route as default gw
[11:56] <sethk> aztun, or do you want to forward selectively?
[11:56] <ifireball> ey: or you can do this in one line with: echo "your msg here" | write <username>
[11:56] <needhelp> ey: write user ttyname
[11:56] <asdf_> AlReece45: any ideas?
[11:56] <aztun> I want to forward everything
[11:56] <aztun> its for my personal lan
[11:56] <AlReece45> asdf_: are sure you sure you're in /system and not /schemas/system?
[11:56] <malix0> Can some one help me to get more information on this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/70749 thanks
[11:56] <aztun> I use to get this thing working on other distros in five minuts
[11:56] <sethk> aztun, that doesn't really look right.  for NAT, you would ordinarily specify the public address, not the private one.
[11:56] <sethk> aztun, then why did you switch?
[11:57] <aztun> eth1 is my public iface
[11:57] <sethk> aztun, yes, I know that
[11:57] <aztun> with a pulic ip
[11:57] <sisqonrwwwwwwww> do we have a webcam expert here?
[11:57] <sethk> aztun, yes, exactly.  so what do you think that NAT statement is going to do?
[11:57] <asdf_> AlReece45: Yes, system is the last tab below schemas
[11:57] <abo> I trued the windows codecs tutorial to enable wmv files in Edgy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[11:57] <aztun> forward everything coming from my lan (<IP_ADDRESS>/24) throught eth1 to inet
[11:57] <abo> wmv files still do not play in edgy
[11:57] <needhelp> ompaul: The "Switch User" feature in gnome just prompts for the password for THIS user, instead of giving me a new-user-login screen
[11:58] <AlReece45> asdf: which distro are you using?
[11:58] <aztun> that lines has always worked for me
[11:58] <kapten> edgy
[11:58] <abo> anyone can help me setting wmv file playback in Edgy plz?
[11:58] <asdf_> AlReece45: Dapper
[11:58] <aztun> is there any way to see if packet_forwarding is active?
[11:58] <kapten> abo, install VLC-player, worked for me.
[11:58] <sethk> aztun, to forward everything, all you need is a default route and packet forwarding enabled.  you don't use a nat rule to forward
[11:59] <ey> !fireball but how to quit ?
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fireball but how to quit ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <sethk> aztun, the purpose of NAT is to translate your private address to a public address on the way out, and back to your private address on the way in.
[11:59] <lupine_85> it's set & read in /proc somewhere - file ip_forward or ip_forwarding
[11:59] <aztun> sethk: I have allways done it in that way and worked for me
[11:59] <sethk> aztun, if eth1 has your publifc IP configured, then you don't use NAT on it.
[11:59] <ifireball> ey: ctrl+D
[11:59] <aztun> thx lupine_85
[11:59] <ey> !fireball after he is done saying good bye and me good bye .i wanna finsh the chatt .so how do i quit?
[11:59] <sethk> aztun, ok, then, if you know how to do it, I'll shut up.
[11:59] <abo> kapten, it's already installed, vlc-player is already installed, I'm reintalling it though
[11:59] <ruzgar> how can I backup my synaptic list
[12:00] <bruenig> ruzgar, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[12:00] <kapten> I have a problem with rar-packages. anyone good at it?
[12:00] <ompaul> needhelp, I wonder did you log in and log out as another user and find yourself having to log in as yourself
[12:00] <ey> !fireball what command allowes me to close a message from another user on my server?
[12:00] <ifireball> ey: its with an "i" not with "!" the "!" makes ubotu answer you...
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fireball what command allowes me to close a message from another user on my server? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <ruzgar> not sources list
[12:00] <bruenig> ruzgar, or whatever else you want to name it. I call mine sources.list.old myself
[12:00] <ompaul> needhelp, I have to go - sorry
[12:00] <ruzgar> the packages list
[12:00] <aztun> sethk: I have allways done in that way in other distros
[12:00] <asdf_> AlReece45: I have /apps/default_setup/wireless ??
[12:00] <bruenig> ey, if you wouldn't mind stop starting your messages with !, doing so triggers the bot
[12:01] <ifireball> ey: it just goes on you terminal you can just press enter to get anothr prompt
[12:01] <AlReece45> asdf_: Do you  have network-manager-gnome installed?
[12:01] <sethk> aztun, ok.  I think it's a do nothing rule and your other distros were simply forwarding because forwarding was properly set up.
[12:01] <ruzgar> someone said that there is a command


[20:23] <tacorwin> is Ubuntu arm compatible with a ARM Cortex-A9 processor??
[20:39] <infinity> tacorwin: Yes.
[20:41] <tacorwin> how can I flash it onto an android netbook?
[20:43] <tacorwin> and thanks infinity
[20:46] <infinity> tacorwin: That second question is much more involved.  Just because our userspace runs on A9 SOCs (and it does), doesn't mean we ship a kernel or an installer that supports your specific product (we probably dont).
[20:47] <infinity> So you'd need to find a kernel that works, and figure out a clever way to get ubuntu-core on there as a chroot in your Android setup, or as the new base system.
[20:50] <tacorwin> seeing as I'm not the smartest person when it comes to the whole "replacing Android with another os", this seems a bit over my head. is there any easy way to learn this?
[21:06] <infinity> tacorwin: Mostly just diving in and getting your hands dirty.  Or finding a friend who knows what they're doing to help and/or do it for you.
[21:09] <tacorwin> does this involve any programming, besides sh?
[21:10] <infinity> tacorwin: Probably not, if you can find a kernel that works (and if your device runs Android, then you already have one).
[21:12] <tacorwin> yeah, it runs android.
[21:16] <tacorwin> I really do appreciate all of the help infinity!
[21:16] <tacorwin> thanks!


[00:01] <hehehe> folks - I have poked more into open cart, there is a file and xml file in /system folded with changes required... usually oc backend would detect it and implement
[00:01] <hehehe> but now for some reason its yet to happen
[00:03] <nacc> rbasak: whew, rebased my branch now, and it's split, need to go back and clean it up quite a bit. Are you ok with me landing preparatory commits (such as new, as yet unused APIs) -- or at least maybe we can review all of those tomorrow?
[00:07] <madLyfe> nacc: ok im back and it looks like my laptop sees the realtek usb ethernet device under live usb desktop
[00:13] <madLyfe> and the usb ports work on it
[00:15] <madLyfe> wow. thats crazy how everything just works on an old as shit laptop
[00:18] <madLyfe> im impressed lol
[00:18] <madLyfe> been a while since ive tried nix desktop
[00:18] <sarnold> that's kidn of the way things go in linux land, after a machine is old enogh to think about retiring it, it mostly works okay. except that it's underpowered enough you're thinking about retiring it...
[00:20] <madLyfe> so you couldnt get a 2017 laptop and everything just works?
[00:21] <sarnold> hard to tell :( once upon a time intel was pretty good at video drivers and nic drivers and if you stuck to intel hardware for both you'd be alright. I'm not sure that's still true. :(
[00:22] <madLyfe> so this usb adapter makes an attached usb in the hub heat up pretty good.
[00:23] <madLyfe> doesnt seem to do the same when plugged into my pc
[00:33] <hehehe> it should work
[00:33] <hehehe> thats the idea of linux - ease of use
[00:34] <madLyfe> lel, you serial?
[00:39] <hehehe> y4es
[00:39] <hehehe> it must be so
[00:39] <hehehe> I agree with Linus
[00:39] <hehehe> if disto does not work out of box tafa
[00:39] <hehehe> tada
[01:18] <madLyfe> nacc: so how should i pull the stuff needed from this live usb?
[01:27] <braziercustoms-m> Stokachu anything? My signals been in And out.
[01:28] <sarnold> braziercustoms-m: you missed nothing while you were gone
[01:29] <madLyfe> except my moaning.
[01:30] <sarnold> hehe
[01:30] <braziercustoms-m> Sarnold of course lol
[01:33] <braziercustoms-m> Madlyfe I been moaning a bit too lol
[01:35] <madLyfe> i have a usb hub/ethernet adapter that doesnt work on server, but works fine on desktop live usb. need to make it work on server
[01:46] <stokachu> braziercustoms-m: so you purged lxd and lxd-client, and have `snap install lxd --candidate`? so snap list shows lxd 2.17?
[01:47] <braziercustoms-m> Yes
[01:52] <stokachu> what does `lxc list` show
[02:27] <madLyfe> nacc: you there?
[02:34] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, lxc list | pastebinit
[02:34] <BrazierCustoms> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25380240/
[02:45] <stokachu> BrazierCustoms: so did it work?
[03:10] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, no i got the juju get charm error during conjure-up
[03:11] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, I got running machines but thats all they are doing, no services
[03:13] <stokachu> yea not really sure, juju by itself shows the same problem so it's not tied to just conjure-up
[03:14] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, juju status | pastebinit
[03:14] <BrazierCustoms> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25380418/
[03:14] <BrazierCustoms> nothing listed
[03:14] <stokachu> right b/c juju can't resolve jujucharms.com to get the charms
[03:15] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, but why, if i ssh into machine zero I can resolve stuf like google
[03:16] <BrazierCustoms> wait maybe not with this setup
[03:19] <stokachu> i gotta go, if youre around during the day tomorrow ping me and see if i can get remote access to look at it
[03:20] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, ok. I will be on the road most of tomorrow, it will be later afternoon unless I can set you up on the way.
[03:20] <BrazierCustoms> thanks
[04:05] <BrazierCustoms> "<stokachu> yea not really sure, juju by itself shows the same problem so it's not tied to just conjure-up" it may be notable that though I had seen this problem before, it went away until I did the neutron.sh fix you told me to do.
[04:06] <BrazierCustoms> then it persist through the --edge refresh we did today (which I assume inluded the neutron.sh change?)
[04:12] <BrazierCustoms> also noteable when I realized to juju switch back to the conjure-up controller from the lxd-test we created, I can juju ssh 0 and dig google.com and get an answer, also can dig jujucharms.com and get answer.
[04:47] <BrazierCustoms> stokachu, I can also 'juju ssh 12' and get the file on machine 12 (lxd-12) by downloading it via wget. I did notice that the IP address listed in the log file "read udp <IP_ADDRESS>:53743-><IP_ADDRESS>:53: i/o timeout" <IP_ADDRESS> does not appear to exist.
[05:13] <madLyfe> lordievader: you around?
[05:13] <lordievader> Barely woken up....
[05:15] <madLyfe> wakey wakey eggs n bakey!
[05:40] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:21] <lordievader> Time for coffee
[07:02] <cpaelzer> lordievader: the time for coffee is never
[07:02] <cpaelzer> but I'll share a tee
[07:30] <lordievader> cpaelzer: :)
[08:48] <cpaelzer> rbasak: are you looking into squid for ahasenack already ?
[08:48] <cpaelzer> rbasak: or the percona sponsoring request?
[08:48] <cpaelzer> (want to avoid to do the same)
[10:47] <rizonz> hi guys
[10:47] <rizonz> is the distro time always UTC ?
[10:47] <rizonz> without a timezone
[11:00] <hehehe> hi
[11:00] <hehehe> some weird stuff goes on
[11:00] <hehehe> traceroute cnn.com dont show any ips apart local gateway yet I can connect to it
[11:00] <hehehe> how come lol
[11:38] <hehehe> seems router is a bit %%%
[11:38] <hehehe> lol
[11:41] <TafThorne> rizonz: Do you mean the default timezone at installation or something else?
[11:41] <xnox> cpaelzer, any idea why openvswitch is failing on i386?
[11:41] <xnox> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/o/openvswitch/artful/i386 ?
[11:41]  * xnox cannot migrate kmod =(
[11:41]  * xnox is sad
[11:42] <xnox> or jamespage
[11:43] <TafThorne> hehehe: traceroute is probably not showing what you think it will.  What it is telling you is the number of devices that will respond to ping along its route.  As a lot of gateways and routeers will not respond to ping, but edge devices like servers will, you often get lots of blanks in the middle.  That does not mean there is not at least one good route to your target, just that you cannot inspect the route.
[11:45] <TafThorne> hehehe: The way traceroute works is to send a series of pings with increases Time To Live values.  Each time a packet passes through a certain set of devices (I think it is just IP routers, not switches, hubs, gateways or firewalls) they are meant to decriment the Time To Live field in the packet.  When the number reaches 0 they thrown it away.   The idea is that you can find out your nearest routers by pinging with a TTL of 1 or limit broadcast
[11:46] <hehehe> i see
[11:46] <TafThorne> hehehe: At least is what I remember from lectures many moons ago.
[11:47] <hehehe> TafThorne: however now that I switched to smartphone wifi hotspot I can reach paypal
[11:47] <hehehe> so maybe router got powned?
[11:47] <hehehe> i wonder
[11:48] <hateball> hehehe: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> from your usual gateway?
[11:48] <hateball> maybe it is just DNS being wonky
[11:48] <hehehe> hateball: could be
[11:48] <hehehe> in fact yes could be that
[11:48] <hehehe> since I can resolve all sites but paypal nope
[11:48] <hehehe> lol
[12:07] <xnox> also there is cacti failing http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#net-snmp
[12:07] <xnox> oooh maybe it passed now \o/ http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/cacti/artful/armhf
[12:16] <cpaelzer> xnox: takein a look, but jamespage isn't here atm afaik
[12:18] <cpaelzer> I can only say that I'm soon gonna be blocked by the same, as I have a dpdk fix waiting for just this test in the queue as the remaining dep8
[12:20] <cpaelzer> xnox: no nothing in there rings a bell
[12:21] <cpaelzer> there are plenty of erros, but not fails listed on autopkgtest
[12:22] <cpaelzer> did you abort the tests or anything like it xnox?
[12:22] <cpaelzer> otherwise I'd almost assume a broken instance - all the timeouts on different places after just a few minutes into the test
[12:30] <cpaelzer> xnox: if you look at bug 1630940 and bug 1630578 it might be the test infra is crashing - that was the only mention of the same error I could find
[12:43] <cpaelzer> it seems to hang on the vanilla test at "*** Stopping 2 switches" just as it seems in the infra when I run it locally
[12:43] <cpaelzer> need to attach a few extras to that qemu to see if I can get anything out xnox
[12:59] <cpaelzer> xnox: yeah kernel panic
[13:00] <cpaelzer> I'm connected to the monitor with a hanging VM, trying to save a valid dump from here
[13:00] <cpaelzer> will ping you once I have a good bug report on it so you can subscribe
[13:00] <cpaelzer> kmod sounds so related to kernel crashes :-)
[13:01] <cpaelzer> what was the update xnox?
[13:02] <xnox> cpaelzer, of kmod? just dropping upstart system djobs
[13:02] <cpaelzer> hmm, tht shouldn#t be it - I agree
[13:02] <cpaelzer> I'll still ping you once I have a bug with all data in one place
[13:11] <pngl> Hello! The /boot partition on my server is full. I'm in rescue mode, trying to resize it to 310MB with parted, but I get: "The location 310 is outside of the device /dev/sda1"
[13:12] <ogra_> just call "apt autoremove" that should remove old unused kernels
[13:13] <ogra_> (and free up space in /boot)
[13:13] <pngl> ogra_: this fails with "no space left on device"
[13:13] <ogra_> autoremove fails ?
[13:13] <pngl> ogra_: hang on I may have only tried purge. let me give it a shot.
[13:13] <ogra_> (it doesnt write anything to /boot, only removes files there)
[13:20] <pngl> During autoremove I get: "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-59-generic", then: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device". It tries to set up many kernel versions before eventually failing.
[13:25] <pngl> ogra_: ^
[13:25] <ogra_> you can also cheat and manually remove older intird's if you are sure you are not using them
[13:27] <ogra_> (they will be rmoved anyway by autoremove)
[13:29] <pngl> ogra_: I've done that, but still not enough space left :/
[13:30] <ogra_> huh ?
[13:30] <ogra_> are you sure it is referring to /boot at all ?
[13:30] <ogra_> df -h /booot
[13:30] <ogra_> err
[13:30] <ogra_> df -h /boot
[13:30] <pngl> ogra_: so boot has about 22MB left now.
[13:31] <pngl> pngl: I have 3 kernel images left, but I don't know which I can safely remove (they all try to be "set up" during autoremove)
[13:31] <pngl> ogra_: ^
[13:32] <ogra_> well, technically you only need the kernel you are running
[13:33] <ogra_> practically there might be another one you just upgraded to
[13:34] <pngl> ogra_: ok i'll try remove the others
[13:49] <cpaelzer> xnox: what I have so far is in bug 1712831
[13:49] <cpaelzer> and as expected it now also blocks my migration
[13:49] <cpaelzer> I wonder what is different to last time, comparing logs ...
[13:53] <pngl> ogra_: ok, looks like it worked :)
[13:53] <pngl> ogra_: thanks!
[13:53] <ogra_> :)
[14:43] <znf> Hello
[14:43] <znf> I'm having a weird issue with dhcplient on ubuntu 16.04 - https://hastebin.com/umevakinak.nginx
[14:43] <znf> it doesn't want to fix a lease, for some reasons, I've no idea why
[14:43] <znf> other devices get their leases from the same router without issues
[14:47] <znf> I figured
[14:47] <znf> Nevermind
[14:49] <yeeve> trying to install elasticsearch from https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/deb.html. Apt shows version 1.7.5-1 but I can't find what ElasticSearch version that is. (It's 5.5 currently on their website)
[14:49] <yeeve> Hmm, tempted to just download the .deb file :)
[15:03] <rizonz> TafThorne: yes
[15:23] <TafThorne> rizonz: I  had forgotten my question.
[15:25] <TafThorne> rizonz: Found it.  I had said "Do you mean the default timezone at installation or something else?"  Well I think it is +00:00 until you setup a local that is anything else.  I cannot say that with any emphatic knowledge though.  I just happen to live at +00:00 so it might be locating that for me every time.
[15:30] <rizonz> TafThorne: damn you are lucky :)
[15:30] <rizonz> TafThorne: it links the timezone so the system will run UTF I suppose
[15:31] <TafThorne> You would think but sometimes we get very odd behaviours when we are in BST and the USA or elsewhere has yet to enter DST of some kind.
[15:31] <TafThorne> rizonz: Being British Summer Time and Daylight Savings Time.
[15:34] <rizonz> TafThorne: true because you are going into the past
[15:35] <madLyfe> nacc: you about?
[15:35] <nacc> madLyfe: yep
[15:36] <madLyfe> so i was able to get the adapter working on the laptop
[15:39] <madLyfe> when using it on the blade i was able to boot to the live usb via the SUV/IO cable and have internet via the usb adapter on the internal usb, but when i tried to boot the live usb on the adapter from the internal usb it wouldnt work.
[15:39] <madLyfe> not sure if that makes sense
[15:44] <nacc> madLyfe: trying to parse :)
[15:45] <nacc> madLyfe: maybe describe your hw again, as i lack context
[15:46] <madLyfe> i will send a picture here in a sec. makes it much clearer the level of ghetto im dealing with
[15:47] <nacc> madLyfe: ok :)
[15:50] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uvzdYXgZ/irccloudcapture1256683132.jpg
[15:50] <madLyfe> blade server out of chassis
[15:51] <nacc> lol
[15:52] <nacc> ok, so what are the internet connections?
[15:52] <nacc> internal USB  -> ethernet and a USB dongle -> ethernet?
[15:53] <madLyfe> ya
[15:53] <nacc> and basically the latter never works?
[15:53] <madLyfe> so i have access to internal USB and the HP SUV/IO maintenance cable coming out the front that you can see.
[15:54] <madLyfe> i want to get it all to run off the internal USB
[15:54] <madLyfe> i talked to HPE support and he said you couldnt boot off the internal USB but thats not correct
[15:54] <madLyfe> if i run just a USB key off it i can boot anything
[15:56] <madLyfe> what is funny is that if i boot the live USB from the internal USB and have the HUB adapter run off the IO cable USB for internet then i couldnt get it to work. well i only tried once.
[15:56] <madLyfe> but i dont want that config anyways
[15:58] <nacc> madLyfe: so when you boot from the live usb on the internal, you don't have internet? but it does boot?
[16:02] <madLyfe> so right now i have the live usb attached to the adapter and internet plugged into the internal usb. but i cant get it to boot, says 'non -system disk or disk error'
[16:03] <nacc> madLyfe: sounds like an unsupported config :)
[16:07] <madLyfe> if i take the live usb and put it on the front IO cables USB then i can boot to it and when it loads i will have internet from the adapter that is still plugged into the internal USB
[16:07] <madLyfe> and i can also put another usb key on that hub and is recognized
[16:09] <madLyfe> so that internal usb port does work for internet and usb storage but like not till its booted up(when using the adapter)
[16:18] <madLyfe> so im not sure if its the adapters fault i cant boot from it?
[16:47] <madLyfe> hmm that doesnt make any sense. how can i use the usb hub adapter from the internal USB port when i boot live USB from external port but not when i try to boot from the internal port w USB hub connected, exclusively?
[16:47] <madLyfe> so the port works for those functions, just not from boot?
[16:47] <nacc> madLyfe: certainly possible that's it's not a bootable port
[16:48] <madLyfe> but if i plug the usb live key or server iso key into it exclusively and bypass the adapter it boots fine to those.
[16:50] <madLyfe> thats why im confused
[16:51] <madLyfe> it would make sense if it just didnt boot to anything at all
[16:59] <madLyfe> nacc: found this in the manual: http://i.imgur.com/k7o8G4u.png wonder if it means anything? i know i switched it from legacy to standard usb 2.0 support. not sure if that matters
[17:04] <BrazierCustoms1> stokachu, I thin I ive got it set up for your access. just to be sure I refreshed and tried again this morning. still failed
[17:04] <stokachu> BrazierCustoms1: how do i get to it?
[17:05] <BrazierCustoms1> i need to give you a key and the link
[17:05] <stokachu> BrazierCustoms1: you can import my ssh key
[17:05] <stokachu> BrazierCustoms1: ssh-import-id adam-stokes
[17:06] <BrazierCustoms1> will you do me a favor and script your session so I can see commands you used for future reference?
[17:06] <stokachu> sure
[17:08] <BrazierCustoms1> ok, imported
[17:09] <BrazierCustoms1> I had created one for you, didnt know I could just import :P
[17:11] <nacc> madLyfe: in my experience, you usually want legacy
[17:11] <nacc> madLyfe: but i really don't know
[17:12] <madLyfe> actually in the bios it doesnt let me choose between the two. actually it allows be to turn off legacy and turn on/off standard 2.0.
[17:12] <madLyfe> hmm now i cant get it to use the adapter in any way
[17:13] <nacc> madLyfe: :/
[17:13] <madLyfe> what can i get away with for SD card as the OS drive for server?
[17:14] <nacc> rbasak: fyi, master in zesty does work again (the git regression) -- so the snap is good. Just an fyi if testing on artful until i'm able to land the fix for git
[17:18] <rbasak> OK, thanks
[17:20] <madLyfe> like how good of a microSD card do you need to run ubuntu server on it?
[17:22] <madLyfe> also, does the live usb(desktop) reset itself every time? cuz i initially used it on my laptop with wireless internet and when i boot with it on another computer it still shows the wireless part up at the top though obv not connected
[17:28] <madLyfe> not sure how to reset it
[17:40] <ahasenack> I have this excerpt of a d/rules file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25384178/
[17:40] <sarnold> madLyfe: be sure to disable nearly everything that logs, syncs logs, etc. don't use it for write-heavy uses. I killed an SD card in a pandaboard; there were months of increasingly worse segfaults, sigbusses, etc.
[17:40] <ahasenack> I'm trying to add -Wno-error=deprecated -Wno-error=format=truncation to the build flags
[17:40] <ahasenack> but it just doesn't show up
[17:40] <sarnold> madLyfe: the second SD cardhas lasted for years. I no longer torrent on that box :)
[17:40] <ahasenack> I tried in DEB_CFLAGS_MAINT_APPEND before, but this is a g++ build
[17:40] <ahasenack> any hints?
[17:42] <madLyfe> thanks sarnold. its a box for mining crypto so it should be good. my other servers are using sandisk ultra flair USBs.
[17:42] <BrazierCustoms2> sarnold, it depends on the quality of the sdcard. I got a raspi running motion for security cam and it fills with loggs all the time and its been running for 3 years now
[17:42] <madLyfe> is the default network icon in ubuntu desktop the universal wireless icon?
[17:43] <sarnold> BrazierCustoms2: .. and it's not toast yet??
[17:43] <BrazierCustoms2> no, running smooth
[17:43] <sarnold> BrazierCustoms2: I thoguht I had bought a nice card :)
[17:46] <BrazierCustoms2> sarnold I actually have anotherone that grabs files thru vpn and places them on my samba server and its been around since the first pi.. matter fact it is still running on the pi1b and its still running. it does have a few bad spot though.
[17:47] <sarnold> I can imagine that torrenting on one might include enough write amplification to be Bad News
[17:47] <sarnold> but still full-time video recording.. that's nothing to sneeze at :)
[17:50] <Epx998> I am install Xenial server and during the networking dhcp config, I get this malformed IP errors, I will get them 3-4 times when the network tries to configure, then they go away - dhcp address is successfully assigned.  Is this a known bug?
[18:00] <ahasenack> man, typos
[18:00] <nacc> ahasenack: ?
[18:00] <ahasenack> my question from above
[18:03] <BrazierCustoms2> sarnold, when i first started, I thought nothing of it, but after killing a few cheap ones i figured it out :P
[18:04] <nacc> Epx998: sounds like a bug in your dhcp server
[18:06] <Epx998> nacc: Just happening on these UB16 iso installs, this DHCP server hasn't had any problems for a few years now.
[18:06] <nacc> Epx998: strange, I've not heard of it, but you could search launchpad to see
[18:08] <Epx998> nacc: the debian-installer is not even requesting a dhcp lease
[18:08] <Epx998> Wonder if there is something I can restart from the installer shell
[18:12] <Epx998> sigh
[18:22] <ahasenack> Epx998: can you check on the dhcp server (if you can't on the client) which IPs were offered that the client deemed malformed?
[18:23] <ahasenack> and compare to the one that worked?
[18:26] <Epx998> ahasenack: yeah I looked at the DHCP server, business as normal - it serves thousands of nodes.. only getting the error in this xenial server iso when it runs network autoconfig
[18:27] <Epx998> ahasenack: i am kicking 6 of these, first 2 no issues, 2-3 had the issue but clearend after i clicked 'go back' a few times - 5-6 wont config dhcp at all, im tailing my dhcpd.log and not even seeing the requests, client isnt asking
[18:29] <Epx998> and now #6 just went thru, took 10 minutes of trying
[18:31] <ahasenack> Epx998: this is ubuntu core?
[18:31] <madLyfe> https://youtu.be/J4u3ZN2g_MI
[18:31] <Epx998> ahasenack: its the ub16.04.02 server iso
[18:35] <madLyfe> is there a place to see which usb ethernet adapters work with ubuntu server out of the box?
[18:35] <madLyfe> if i search that on google all i get is ppl with issues and no success stories lol
[18:37] <Epx998> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[18:37] <Epx998> is my guess
[18:42] <Epx998> if youre installing server, you can add drivers to the installer that normally are not present
[18:44] <madLyfe> ya im trying to get the usb hub/ethernet adapter i have currently to work in desktop again(had it working last night) to see what its using for its driver because i couldnt get it working under server.
[18:45] <madLyfe> but was looking at others incase this one is junk.
[18:45] <madLyfe> works on windows though
[18:46] <Epx998> Did it work in desktop?
[18:48] <madLyfe> i got it working once last night in desktop but this morning doing more testing i cant get it to work for some reason
[18:48] <madLyfe> still trying
[18:51] <Epx998> I wonder if the switch these servers are on is not configured correctly
[18:51] <braziercustoms-m> Stokachu, ok way to prove me wrong.. I was chat to g from there lol
[18:51] <braziercustoms-m> Chatting
[18:51] <Epx998> port fast not enabled or soemthing
[18:51] <sarnold> Epx998: spanning tree nonsense?
[18:53] <Epx998> sarnold: our neteng team slacked on these switches when we built the DC - another on my team identified it and got it fixed, months ago - these servers have been churning since, but needed to reimage to 16 these 6..  its acting like port fast isnt enabled or something else.  ill have to escalate, the last one finally worked
[18:55] <madLyfe> Epx998: 'I wonder if the switch these servers are on is not configured correctly' that for me?
[18:55] <Epx998> madLyfe: nah i was just saying, been having an issue with dhclient on the debian-installer, got it sorted now
[18:56] <madLyfe> ah k
[19:34] <jcastro> howdy folks! Is there a way to play with curtin in a non-maas environment?
[20:02] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/QakJoRAR/irccloudcapture683196535.jpg
[20:02] <madLyfe> wtf does that mean? I installed desktop to the microSD card just fine then that on reboot
[20:05] <R0cketM0nster> Hey we have an ubuntu server here at work and i am trying to monitor using traceroute whether our clients routers are on their main connection or their 3g backup. is anyone able to tell me why when i run a traceroute sometimes the first hop is our core switch and sometimes it skips that hop? its making it very difficult to monitor the number of hops as it keeps changing.
[20:10] <Epx998> madLyfe: your usb image is corrupted?
[20:11] <madLyfe> its not usb, its microSD. well installed from USB stick to microSD.
[20:11] <Epx998> madLyfe: what did you use to make it?
[20:11] <madLyfe> rufus, with the directions from the live usb wiki
[20:12] <Epx998> rufus is straight forward
[20:12] <Epx998> you deploying a server this way?
[20:13] <madLyfe> ya, its a blade with internal microUSB
[20:13] <Epx998> ah
[20:14] <coreycb> cpaelzer: have you seen this for qemu in pike? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25384959/
[20:14] <Epx998> Ever consider setting up network installs?
[20:15] <coreycb> cpaelzer: we're tripping over that in the uca backport of 1:2.10~rc3+dfsg-0ubuntu1. looks like live-block-ops.txt was moved to a new file.
[20:16] <madLyfe> Epx998: this doesnt have ethernet, yet.
[20:17] <Epx998> madLyfe: so you have a blade server that you're trying to provision via an intenral microsd card, so you can use a usb ether?
[20:18] <madLyfe> ya
[20:18] <madLyfe> running out of chassis.
[20:19] <Epx998> geebus
[20:19] <Epx998> might be timm to virtualize
[20:19] <Epx998> so this blade doesnt have onboard ethernet?
[20:20] <madLyfe> well not when its out of chassis
[20:21] <sarnold> R0cketM0nster: do you get to see the ICMP time exceeded in-transit messages from the switch when using tcpdump?
[20:21] <Epx998> madLyfe: where is what i'd do, try with a desktop usb to see if the usb ether is dectected, if you dont want to do that - create an updated initrd.gz file with all that usb/network modules for whatever kernel the installer is using
[20:21] <madLyfe> only ports it has are an internal USB and microSD with the fron HP SUV/IO cable(VGA, 2 USB, 1 serial)
[20:23] <Epx998> whats the model of the blade chassis this blade is in?
[20:23] <madLyfe> its not in a chassis
[20:23] <madLyfe> picture: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uvzdYXgZ/irccloudcapture1256683132.jpg
[20:23] <Epx998> you just have it out
[20:24] <Epx998> thats some stuff right there
[20:24] <sarnold> heh, I guess that finally answers one of my long-standing question, if the chassis is necessary for blades. yeah, pretty much :) hehe
[20:25] <Epx998> ha yeah
[20:25] <R0cketM0nster> @sarnold, sorry but how would i do that?
[20:25] <Epx998> madLyfe: are you able to boot into bios?
[20:25] <madLyfe> its running can install server, but i cant get this noname usb/ethernet adapter to work.
[20:26] <madLyfe> ya
[20:26] <sarnold> R0cketM0nster: I did 'tcpdump -n -i eth0' in one window while running 'traceroute ....' in another window
[20:26] <Epx998> are there any bios settings for the internal microsd ?
[20:26] <Epx998> madLyfe: so you haver zero network
[20:26] <Epx998> ok so try this
[20:26] <madLyfe> ya one sec
[20:28] <madLyfe> was looking at this: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/error-attempt-to-read-or-write-outside-of-disk-%27hd0%27-ubutnu-14-04-a-4175502753/
[20:29] <Epx998> note the kernel you are using on that blade, on another server with networking, download the kernel driver modules for usb and networking - install on this blade, modprobe a few drivers and see if you get it working?
[20:30] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5u39xIpT/irccloudcapture1368982153.jpg
[20:31] <madLyfe> well thats why i was using desktop. cuz i got the ethernet to work once
[20:31] <madLyfe> havent been able to since.
[20:31] <Epx998> then its most likely a driver issue
[20:31] <Epx998> i think ubuntu ships desktop with a lot more drivers than server
[20:31] <Epx998> but you can easily add them to server
[20:33] <sarnold> Epx998: oh? the kernels are the same, I'm not sure where the extra drivers would go..
[20:34] <madLyfe> Epx998: here is a breakdown of the convo between nacc and i about it. it provides some context: https://gist.github.com/eafaf4005d5035728211e74cdaeb6aee
[20:34] <Epx998> server doesnt ship with the extra stuff right? like megaraid
[20:34] <Epx998> mptsas
[20:35] <madLyfe> desktop has 4.10 and most recent server only has 4.4 still
[20:36] <Epx998> madLyfe: dunno, when a device is not detected, we add drivers into the kernel module
[20:36] <Epx998> im just suggesting doing that
[20:36] <Epx998> you running trusty or xenial?
[20:36] <madLyfe> but in that text convo i note that i cant get the hub adapter to work before any OS anyways.
[20:36] <madLyfe> what are those? doesnt help that im a newb at nix.
[20:37] <madLyfe> ummm i think i just won the lottery
[20:37] <Epx998> you running 14 or 16?
[20:37] <sarnold> the 600 million dollar lotto? :)
[20:37] <sarnold> you'll remember your pals on irc right? :)
[20:38] <madLyfe> here is the other part of the usb convo: https://gist.github.com/9df3c2721eea4e7716b74178e7b54134 its all above, im just not sure if you were in the channel or not when the discussion was going on.
[20:38] <madLyfe> lol
[20:39] <madLyfe> so i turned off the usb 2.0 controller in that picture above and now im booting from the live desktop usb from a port on that hub. nothing else is plugged in.
[20:39] <madLyfe> ejected the microSD as well
[20:39] <Epx998> you dont know what release youre using?  o O
[20:39] <madLyfe> most recent LTS for desktop and server
[20:39] <madLyfe> 16
[20:39] <Epx998> thats xenial
[20:40] <madLyfe> Ubuntu Server 16.04.3 LTS
[20:40] <madLyfe> but server doesnt have the newer kernel.
[20:40] <Epx998> what does uname -r say?
[20:41] <madLyfe> i know this because even installing 16.04.3 i had to manually upgrade it to 4.10
[20:41] <madLyfe> sorry there is currently nothing installed
[20:41] <Epx998> killing my smalls
[20:41] <Epx998> me*
[20:41] <madLyfe> lol
[20:41] <madLyfe> sorry man
[20:42] <madLyfe> i dont think the microSD grub issue is an issue anymore cuz i got the usb adapter to boot
[20:42] <Epx998> get a dang usb cdrom, burn an iso on a cd.. install the os
[20:42] <Epx998> lol
[20:42] <Epx998> get an os on there
[20:43] <madLyfe> did you read the convo i posted
[20:43] <Epx998> no - im working too :D
[20:44] <madLyfe> ty for your help btw
[20:44] <Epx998> no worries - im on here a lot asking questions myself
[20:46] <madLyfe> not sure why this live desktop is slow AF
[20:46] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Z9smoQpc/irccloudcapture223774061.jpg
[21:20] <Epx998> got it working?
[21:25] <nacc> jcastro: in case no one replied, yes, it's possible -- there is a #curtin channel
[21:51] <madLyfe> Epx998: says the internet connection is there but can't test. literally slow AF
[21:51] <madLyfe> not sure why
[21:54] <Epx998> yeah duno
[22:04] <balderson> Hi, I'm using autofs to mount a NFS.  it's mounting fine, but when do an ls in the target directory noting displays until i touch one of the files in the NFS which i know exists, is that expected behavior?
[22:12] <sarnold> balderson: guessing here, ls -l ? or ls ? I'm curious if the id lookups are slow ..
[22:13] <balderson> both
[22:14] <balderson> once i touch a file, everything shows up, and exists for all the users
[22:16] <sarnold> crazy :/
[22:16] <balderson> sarnold, the syslog shows that the automount connect once ive touched a file
[23:02] <hehehe> hi
[23:02] <hehehe> using auditd
[23:03] <hehehe> and I got https://pastebin.com/9NzGLTT2
[23:03] <hehehe> some errors
[23:17] <RoyK> hehehe: IIRC those means that there's a nuclear war starting
[23:18] <hehehe> lol
[23:18] <hehehe> nah
[23:18] <hehehe> it means trump could not connect to a command center
[23:18] <hehehe> :P
[23:59] <hehehe> https://pastebin.com/1Dgqi6cG


[05:43] <kaeru> is anyone else having issues with Autojack starting from Studio Control on 20.10? https://github.com/ovenwerks/studio-controls/issues/4
[06:53] <OvenWerks> kaeru: the first part of that looks like an old config file with a newer version of controls.
[06:54] <MauroGaspari[m]> [kaeru](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_kaeru:matrix.org) does not seem to affect me. Does it happen to you on a fresh install of 20.10?
[06:55] <OvenWerks> the second comment looks like a different problem.
[06:56] <OvenWerks> in the first case a copy of the config file would help.
[06:57] <OvenWerks> the second looks like a jack /pulse problem such as a latency too low for pulse
[11:09] <jazzslag> hey, does anyone know how to enable remote desktop sharing in Ubuntu Studio? all the online guides are for vanilla Ubuntu
[11:15] <MauroGaspari[m]> [jazzslag](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_jazzslag:matrix.org) thise guides are most likely for vino, a lightweight vnc server. It is not usually installed on ubuntu flavors. It only works within the same lan, and it is not nat aware. If i need to remotely access a machine via internet i usually install anydesk.
[11:15] <MauroGaspari[m]> If you want FOSS only you can install xrdp or vnc server by hand. But also remember they do not work through nat and are usually not encrypted,  so a vpn or ssh tunnel will be required.
[11:16] <MauroGaspari[m]> Sorry, long answer to a short question. I hope it is somewhat useful
[11:19] <jazzslag> thanks so much Mauro - I already have a VNC server installed (Remmina), I'm just looking for a simple way to enable sharing like in regular Ubuntu, but it there doesn't seem to be one
[11:45] <MauroGaspari[m]> [jazzslag](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_jazzslag:matrix.org) no worries. I understand,  yes that's useful if you just want to use it on demand. Vnc servers can be configured to run as service on startup but i don't think it is what you are trying to do. You could setup a couple of launcher icons linked to scripts that start and stop remote support.
[14:12]  * OvenWerks uses ssh -Y


[00:20] <mhall119> sorry I missed the meeting, but it's Thanksgiving 'round these parts
[01:05] <charlie-tca> No problem
[01:06] <charlie-tca> mhall119, Happy Thanksgiving
[04:16] <mhall119> thanks, you too
[11:26] <ochosi> charlie-tca: just read the log of the meeting, so nothing conclusive there
[13:05] <charlie-tca> 8gm
[13:05] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[18:06] <charlie-tca> powerpc and ps3 images will continue to build daily, but will not be released. Hopefully, we can find someone that wants to pick up fixing and testing them.
[18:07] <charlie-tca> We need to re-examine the issue down the road. Will first get alpha1 out and worry about 10.04.2 and alpha2.


[07:20] <scientes> how can i get multitouch working in X, it works with evdev, i only have 2 touch support


[13:38] <cmaloney> morning
[13:40] <jrwren> good morning
[13:40] <cmaloney> How's the morning so far?
[13:46] <jrwren> watching this on the big screen: https://youtu.be/UrvuydoI-eE
[13:46] <jrwren> waiting for vacation.
[13:47] <jrwren> eggs and toast were delicious, so I'll say the morning is great.
[13:47] <jrwren> How are you cmaloney ?  any better?
[13:48] <cmaloney> Still got the sinus thing going
[13:49] <cmaloney> it's a little disgusting to go into details, but it seems things are getting backed up
[13:52] <cmaloney> But have been able to get relief
[13:52] <cmaloney> Mmmm... Eggs and toast sound yummy
[13:53] <cmaloney> Having Tofu Scramble and Iraqi bread