[01:02] <MeanEYE> Can anyone tell me where I can download SVG Logo?
[01:47] <mhall119> .w 23
[01:47] <mhall119> blah
[05:17] <nigelb> paultag: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1105 ;)
[05:25] <paultag> nigelb: hehehe
[05:25] <paultag> my computer hates me
[05:25] <paultag> but I love it
[05:26] <nigelb> heh
[05:26] <paultag> <3, you shiny matte black master of all that is digital
[05:26] <paultag> it's so awesome, it's both shiny and matte
[07:15]  * jussi waves in akgraner's direction
[07:16] <akgraner> hi jussi
[07:17] <jussi> akgraner: problem is, Im sure she doesnt know much that I know :D
[07:17] <jussi> but she is brilliant!
[07:17] <nigelb> am I lost or is there a backstory?
[07:17] <akgraner> jussi, thank you!
[07:17] <akgraner> nigelb, becca's video
[07:17] <nigelb> aaah
[07:18] <jussi> akgraner: if she wants to do anything from Delerious? (if she knows them) that would be awesome :D
[07:18] <akgraner> but if you have the tabs and a version she can listen to she can usually figure any song out
[07:18] <nigelb> Indeed, she is brilliant!
[07:18] <nigelb> jussi: doh, didn't know you were a Delirious fan :)
[07:18]  * nigelb has a whole HD full of songs :)
[07:19] <akgraner> If you know the song how do you solve a problem like maria from sound of music - she was singing how do you solve a problem like ubuntu the other day
[07:19] <akgraner> it was hilarious
[07:19] <nigelb> proably dedicated to you :p
[07:20] <JFo> sigh* can't sleep
[07:20] <nigelb> JFo!
[07:20] <vish> maybe JFo would like a cake or a cake song! ;)
[07:20] <JFo> vish, :)
[07:20] <JFo> nigelb!!
[07:20] <JFo> :)
[07:21] <jussi> JFo: go listen to becca, she will smooth your nerves :)
[07:21] <JFo> I did earlier :)
[07:21] <JFo> she rocks
[07:21] <akgraner> nah she was reading the whole GNOME, Canonical, Banshee stuff and it was more poking fun at those who were being harsh towards ubuntu
[07:21] <akgraner> ok I was reading her all the stories
[07:21] <JFo> I knew that :-P
[07:21] <jussi> lol
[07:22] <JFo> I doubt she would be reading them on her own :-)
[07:22] <akgraner> and I asked her what she thought...
[07:22] <JFo> did she say, "They need Jesus"? :)
[07:31] <nigelb> JFo: :)
[07:31] <JFo> :)
[07:31] <JFo> brb, going to go write a bit more and try to sleep again...
[07:33] <nigelb> Good luck :)
[07:35] <duanedesign> lol at the global notice
[07:36] <duanedesign> [Global Notice] It appears we've lost routes to at least a hub in .eu this morning.  We've duct-taped things back together  around the failure.  Our apologies to those affected.
[07:36] <duanedesign> what can duct tape not fix?
[07:36] <nigelb> heh
[07:37] <duanedesign> nigelb: how did the boot camp go?
[07:37] <nigelb> duanedesign: pretty good :)
[07:38] <nigelb> I liked the sessions from itnet7, YoBoy, and akgraner :)
[07:38] <duanedesign> cool
[07:40] <nigelb> omg
[07:41] <nigelb> svn consipracy.
[07:41] <nigelb> All the git reference websites are down!
[07:42] <duanedesign> im stuck trying to figure out how to run BASH built in commands from Python
[08:02] <nigelb> hey ara
[08:02] <ara> morning nigelb!
[08:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <nigelb> hello dholbach
[08:09] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:24] <dpm> good morning all
[08:25] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:25] <dpm> morgen dholbach!
[08:25] <nigelb> hey dpm :)
[08:26] <dpm> hey nigelb
[08:29] <duanedesign> o/
[08:29] <dpm> morning duanedesign
[08:30]  * nigelb sends thank you mails
[08:49] <kim0> dholbach: nigelb dpm Morning folks
[08:50] <dholbach> hola kim0
[08:50] <dholbach> hey duanedesign
[08:51] <dpm> hey kim0, good morning!
[08:51] <kim0> :)
[08:55] <akgraner> dpm got a second I need your assistance....can I pm you?
[08:55] <dpm> akgraner, sure
[09:08] <nigelb> hey kim0 :)
[09:27] <huats> morning
[09:27] <nigelb> hello huats :)
[09:33] <nigelb> I'd appeciate some RT love for this http://twitter.com/#!/nigelbabu/status/52649487478427648
[09:38] <JFo> now that is odd. I could have sworn I was already following you nigelb
[09:38] <JFo> so, anyway... done and done
[09:40] <nigelb> JFo: :)
[09:40] <JFo> :)
[09:40] <nigelb> JFo: still no sleep huh? :(
[09:41] <JFo> nope
[09:41] <JFo> wide awake
[09:41] <JFo> I've given over to doing some minor workish tasks whilst trying to find fun places to visit while we are in budapest :-)
[09:42] <akgraner> dpm, dholbach, kim0 or JFo  you all don't call them sprints anymore do you?  They are called rallies now, yes?
[09:42] <JFo> yep
[09:42] <JFo> akgraner, that is correct
[09:42] <JFo> Rally, like the car race
[09:42] <akgraner> or rally ok gotcha
[09:43] <JFo> at least, I assume that is the refference
[09:43] <akgraner> dang there are so many freakin changes :-)
[09:43] <JFo> wow, I am a spelling failure
[09:44] <akgraner> its Rally isn't it?
[09:44] <akgraner> oh refference you meant
[09:55] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:55] <czajkowski> akgraner: go to bed
[09:55] <czajkowski> JFo: why are you up also
[09:55] <akgraner> ha I can't :-( I have to finish this chapter
[09:55] <czajkowski> what are you writing ?
[09:56] <JFo> similar here, but I am putting off the demons in an attempt to get sleepy
[09:56] <JFo> not working so far
[09:58] <czajkowski> :(
[09:58] <czajkowski> I'm going to be on the Ubuntu UK podcast later on
[09:58] <popey> \o/
[10:00] <akgraner> sweet!
[10:09] <czajkowski> heh
[10:10] <JFo> (8-O   I just found slow-cooker recipes... now I'm hungry.
[10:11] <nigelb> JFo: Great, now I'm hungry too.
[10:13] <JFo> :-/
[10:15] <nigelb> Tomorrow should be fun though.
[10:26] <JFo> ^^ sarcasm
[10:26] <JFo> It's a Trap!!
[10:28] <nigelb> JFo: Tomorrow most of India either has holiday or work early & go home early.
[10:28] <nigelb> JFo: Cricket World Cup Semi-finals :)
[10:29] <JFo> aw man!
[10:29] <JFo> <-jealous
[10:31] <nigelb> We start at 7:30 am tomorrow and leave by 2.
[10:35] <JFo> wish I could do that
[10:35] <JFo> I barely remember to eat lunch as it is
[10:35] <nigelb> heh
[10:37] <JFo> speaking of which... I think I shall go and make myself some soup for breakfast... and lunch :)
[10:37] <JFo> the recipes won
[10:37] <nigelb> against your self control?
[10:37] <JFo> well, against my stomach :-D
[10:38] <nigelb> heh
[10:38] <JFo> so, yes :-)
[10:38] <JFo> bbiab
[11:23] <JFo> man, that was good
[11:23] <JFo> spicy though
[11:24] <nigelb> :)
[11:24] <czajkowski> JFo: you're just not going to sleep today are you
[11:26] <JFo> doesn't look like it
[11:26] <JFo> I had hoped that the soup would warm me and make me sleepy, but I put too much cayenne pepper in it.
[11:27] <JFo> tasty, but my mouth is burning :)
[11:30] <duanedesign> :)
[11:35] <duanedesign> nice ubuntu Ham write up by Mohamad Faizul Zulkifli on planet
[11:36] <duanedesign> my neighbor is a ham radio operator. /me thinks i will email that to him  O:-)
[11:46] <akgraner> hmmm Am I missing any Ubuntu Weeks or days in this list?  Ubuntu Open Week
[11:46] <akgraner> Ubuntu App Developer Week
[11:46] <akgraner> Ubuntu Developer Week
[11:46] <akgraner> Ubuntu User Days
[11:46] <akgraner> Ubuntu Cloud Days
[11:48] <duanedesign> maybe nigels new global jam bootcamp, do not know if he plans on doing that annually
[11:48] <duanedesign> oh, and hello akgraner :)
[11:48] <akgraner> hey! :-)
[11:48] <popey> Ubuntu Daniel Holbach Is AWESOME Day
[11:48] <popey> s/day/year
[11:49] <akgraner> +1 he is awesome! :-)
[11:51] <duanedesign> :D
[11:55] <nigelb> duanedesign: not anually, every cycle :)
[11:55] <nigelb> popey: +1
[11:55] <dholbach> popey, let's see if you still say that after you checked your mails again :)
[11:55] <nigelb> lol
[11:55] <dholbach> thanks a lot for the flowers my friends :)
[11:56] <popey> aaaargh
[12:01] <czajkowski> *grin*
[13:54] <akgraner> DOH - I just added Brad Pitt to the Ubuntu Technical Board...
[13:55] <akgraner> clearly I need to find some caffeine
[13:56] <czajkowski> LOL
[13:56] <czajkowski> if he joins the TB I'll get a lot more techincal!!!


[00:00] <ayucuk> what is ctcp?
[00:00] <ChinnoDog> I forget what it stands for. It is a set of commands used for passing messages between clients
[00:01] <ChinnoDog> Sending the version command returns information about the other person's IRC client
[00:01] <ayucuk> ok client to client protocol
[00:01] <ayucuk> so, how do u send it?
[00:01] <ChinnoDog> type /ctcp ChinnoDog version
[00:02] <ayucuk> oh ok
[00:02] <ChinnoDog> There are some other ctcp commands but I can't remember them all
[00:03] <jedijf> info
[00:03] <ayucuk> ok
[00:03] <ayucuk> hi to u too jedijf
[00:03] <ChinnoDog> Thanks. finger is another one. Not all clients support all ctcp commands. It is kind of obscure now.
[00:04] <ayucuk> hi to you too jedijf
[00:04] <ayucuk> ok
[00:04] <pleia2> please don't do that
[00:05] <ayucuk> do what?
[00:05] <pleia2> it's rude and will usually get you banned from a channel
[00:05] <pleia2> ping everyone
[00:05] <ayucuk> oh i'm sorry
[00:05] <ayucuk> i am new and im trying out new things i read
[00:05] <ayucuk> i didnt know i wasnt supposed to do it
[00:05] <ChinnoDog> Its an unofficial rule of etiquette
[00:05] <ayucuk> ok
[00:05] <ayucuk> now i know it
[00:05] <ayucuk> it wont happen again
[00:06] <pleia2> thanks :)
[00:07] <jedijf> do we have mo's etiquette thingy pennbot ready?
[00:07] <jedijf> ?
[00:07] <jedijf> etiquette?
[00:07] <jedijf> irc?
[00:07] <pleia2> I think that's just about questions
[00:07] <jedijf> yeah, but it''s still good
[00:07] <jedijf> it should be handy
[00:07] <jedijf> questions?
[00:08] <PennBot> I guess questions are answered with 'oh well', jedijf
[00:08] <ChinnoDog> haha
[00:08] <jedijf> or that
[00:08] <pleia2> lol
[00:08] <ChinnoDog> PennBot++
[00:09] <jedijf> ayucuk: welcome, new to linux?
[00:10] <jedijf> or just irc
[00:23] <ayucuk> thank you
[00:24] <ayucuk> i've been using ubuntu for a while now but i've changed it to be the main os very recently
[00:24] <ayucuk> and now i am exploring new things. i used to get a lot of help reading the community pages, and now just joined it
[00:28] <ayucuk> what is PennBot?
[00:28] <PennBot> Rumor has it PennBot is #ubuntu-us-pa's bot or stupid, ayucuk
[00:28] <ayucuk> haha nice
[00:30] <jedijf> join?
[00:30] <PennBot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3077663&postcount=1
[00:31] <jedijf> ayucuk: ^^^^
[09:20] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:36] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:37] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[09:37] <JonathanD> how goes?
[09:37] <rmg51> yo
[09:37] <rmg51> goes ok
[12:13]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[12:14]  * teddy-dbear nibbles cookies
[12:41] <ChinnoDog> mm, cookies.
[12:41] <ChinnoDog> I haven't eaten any breakfast yet.  I went downstairs to get a western omlette with homefries and toast and the its huge!
[13:29] <ChinnoDog> This could sustain me for two days, easy
[13:42] <JonathanD> bring some here.
[13:42] <JonathanD> I'm hungry.
[13:44] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: what kind of toast?
[13:44] <ChinnoDog> white
[13:45] <ChinnoDog> and grape jelly
[13:46] <InHisName> ChinnoDog: when you go downstairs an omlette just APPEARS as if by magic?    My wife has NO interest in being a magician.
[13:46] <ChinnoDog> There is a whole food court downstairs. It looks like magic to me.
[13:48] <ChinnoDog> Most of the places have breakfast specials. I decided I would start by sampling the least expensive one first.
[13:58] <InHisName> You rent a room above a Whole foods market ?  Their omlettes  look really great but way more costly than $1 menu items.   Can't afford that either with expired unemployment.
[14:01] <ChinnoDog> Not a Whole food court, a whole food court.
[16:01] <pleia2> pennbot filled up the filesystem
[16:01] <pleia2> I hate supybots
[16:02] <jedijf> pleia2: doesn't de dump garbage?
[16:02] <jedijf> s/de/he/she/it
[16:03] <pleia2> looks like it went crazy and filled up it's messages.log
[16:04] <jedijf> mine was doing that a while back too
[16:04] <ChinnoDog> PennBot's brain exploded
[16:05] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: Can you fix him?
[16:06] <pleia2> I'm not restarting it until the reason it killed the box is sorted
[16:06] <pleia2> I gziped the messages.log, so andrew can download it and look at it later
[16:09] <jedijf> i think my b0rk was sqlite based
[17:19] <jthan> pleia2: lulz at a python script (or two) breaking stuff like that
[17:20] <jthan> Is there a way to only assign a certain amount of disk space (either by percentage or a definite amount) to a user?
[17:20] <pleia2> yeah, but they're non-trivial to set up
[17:22] <jthan> Ever since the OLD PennBot died, I see no point. This one doesn't do any of the cool stuff
[17:23] <ChinnoDog> The new PennBot is to the old PennBot as the Data prototype is told the old Data
[17:24] <ChinnoDog> s/told/to
[17:47] <ChinnoDog> If you don't watch Star Trek TNG you have no idea what I am talking about
[17:48] <ssweeny> i got your back ChinnoDog
[17:59] <jthan> ssweeny: you would
[18:11] <teddy-dbear> ChinnoDog: I don't think I ever know what your talking about :-/
[18:11] <jthan> Random Poll: Is Qdoba on par with Chipotle?
[18:11] <pleia2> I like them both
[18:12] <jthan> I'm with you.
[18:15] <rhpot1991> I haven't had Qdoba, but I love Chipotle
[18:15] <jthan> You should try Qdoba so you can participate in the random poll :-p
[18:16] <rhpot1991> Chipotle > Neato Burrito, > Moe's Southwest Grill in Harrisburg area
[18:16] <rhpot1991> jthan: don't think I have one anywhere around me
[18:16] <jthan> I'm not fortunate enough to have either without driving about an hour.
[18:17] <jthan> Sometimes it keeps me awake at night.
[18:17] <pleia2> there is a chipotle half a block from where I live
[18:17] <InHisName> Define each:   like.... smililar to chimichanga but with one and two and without three.
[18:18] <jthan> Let down of the day - OS X can't read ext3. I knew that, but somehow forgot.
[18:18] <jthan> What a ripoff..
[18:22] <rhpot1991> jthan: install ubuntu on it, problem solved
[18:22] <jthan> Been there done that.
[18:22] <jthan> Didn't end well.
[18:23] <rhpot1991> thats a shame, long time ago?
[18:23] <jthan> Eh.. 8.10? Not sure
[18:23] <rhpot1991> might have better luck now
[18:23] <rhpot1991> I know someone who just installed 11.04 on an intel macbook and it went no problem
[18:23] <jthan> Now I just can't stand Ubuntu in general.
[18:24] <jthan> I don't like Unity.. turned it off.. still just not quick and responsive.
[18:24]  * jthan heads back to Gentoo
[18:24] <rhpot1991> sorry to hear that
[18:24] <rhpot1991> I got used to unity
[18:24] <rhpot1991> was not a fan at first
[18:24] <pleia2> that's what most people say
[18:24] <jthan> It's all a preference thing. I got a new GPU and the drivers just seem spotty for it, so I think that has a lot to do with it.
[18:25] <JonathanD> Looking forward to putting it on my T60
[18:25] <JonathanD> and using it for real.
[18:25] <pleia2> change is hard, but they actually did a nice job on the ui
[18:25] <JonathanD> It' sort of meh on my 41.
[18:25] <pleia2> jthan: unity 2d should help with that
[18:25] <jthan> there are silly little things though - like when I resume from a suspend my dock is gone
[18:25] <jthan> Also - after a suspend it doesn't let me move anything on my dock. They're stuck where they're at.
[18:25] <jthan> Can't add new launchers.
[18:27] <jthan> I don't know. I haven't sat down and looked at it. It was my primary OS for awhile, then Unity came along and I started using my Mac more because I needed to be productive for the end of the school yea.r
[18:27] <rmg51> I have stuff that seems to need the Gnome top panel to run
[18:29] <jthan> jthan?
[18:29]  * InHisName is still using unity between frustrations.
[18:29] <jthan> oh.. PennBot is dead.
[18:29] <jthan> I think it says I'm a grumpy old man. True story.
[19:55] <rhpot1991> most of my annoyances have to do with multiple monitors and synergy
[22:34] <ChinnoDog> hrm. Found a K6-2/333 in a box I just unpacked. Anyone need one? I'm sure its super fast.
[22:36] <pleia2> lol
[22:36] <ChinnoDog> You just need a socket 7 motherboard, I think.


[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[09:15] <Unit193> Mirv: You see pingypingy?
[09:59] <Mirv> Unit193: oh I saw. no time today for at least, and I'm not familiar with the package (if that was the reason I was pointed towards... but maybe I'm just a go-to person for MOTU uploads;)
[10:00] <Unit193> Mirv: Oh great, sure understandable.  And nah, more just pointed to you (I'm an uploader in Debian. :P )
[10:00] <Mirv> Unit193: oh whatever, the patch seems extremely simple
[10:01] <Mirv> Unit193: uploaded
[10:02] <Unit193> Mirv: Danke!
[10:02] <Mirv> bitte schön!
[15:28] <sethj> dholbach, sorry about the confusion around UTT's FFe. I had forgotten about that change in wily. It had been reverted upstream a long time ago since it broke pre-wily and manually applied to the wily package (this was before I joined the team(
[15:28] <sethj> Do you want me to update the changelog and mention that it was dropped or are we good?
[15:28] <dholbach> can you update the bug?
[15:28] <sethj> I did that
[15:28] <dholbach> thanks
[15:29] <dholbach> just so somebody else can take a look at it - I'm going to EOD soon and have a bunch of other things I still need to get done
[15:29] <sethj> that's fine, just wanted to make sure we're good to go again. Thanks for bringing it up!
[15:30] <dholbach> cool :)


[02:26] <ahoneybun> what happened to ListItem.Standard?
[02:26] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu.Compontents 1.2 does not work with it
[02:44] <RyanDevelder> hello
[06:44] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <zsombi> kalikiana: you got some comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/listItemRightClick/+merge/262177
[07:44] <zsombi> kalikiana: this relative time translation is interesting...
[07:44] <zsombi> kalikiana: I see a timer which updates the translation, and that may force us to have a component...
[08:46] <popey> dholbach: I am about to upload 7 click packages for which the only change is the icon, would you mind reviewing them for me as a double-check?
[08:48] <popey> They are same revision as existing store versions, just added a .1 (or .2) to take the new icon update
[08:48] <dholbach> ok
[08:48] <dholbach> let me know when they're uploaded and I'll take care of it
[08:49] <popey> thanks dholbach
[08:53] <popey> dholbach: all done, requested manual review for those that need it
[08:57] <dholbach> popey, is there a way to download the old version from the store somehow?
[08:57] <dholbach> .. like the current one
[08:58] <popey> dholbach: http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/07/2015-07-08-050001/
[08:58] <dholbach> thanks
[08:58] <popey> np
[09:07] <dholbach> popey, done
[09:09]  * popey hugs dholbach
[09:47] <Mirv> zbenjamin: any reports on QtC crash on 14.04 LTS recently?
[09:47] <zbenjamin> Mirv: no
[09:47] <zbenjamin> not that i know of
[09:48] <Mirv> zbenjamin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11840535/ - I can, at most, click one tab before it crashes. I've cleaned .config/{Qt,Troll]* etc. weird.
[09:51] <zbenjamin> Mirv: hm , that looks really weird it crashes in QXcb
[09:51] <Mirv> zbenjamin: ok, it's all Qt5 programs.. I guess Qt 5.2.1 doesn't like my laptop's touchpad inputs
[09:51] <Mirv> zbenjamin: which is a bit sad, since then it could affect many people and 5.2.1 might be "slightly" hard to fix if it's something fixed with a major overhaul in 5.3, 5.4, ...
[09:52] <zbenjamin> Mirv: ugh, time to upgrade :)
[09:52] <Mirv> zbenjamin: well I can switch to my wily LXC qtcreator, I just thought the 14.04 LTS SDK experience would be the stable one for me :)
[09:53] <Mirv> zbenjamin: I know I'd love to just stay on devel, but I thought I'd try the LXC route with my new machine, handling everything fresh via that and later LXD
[10:05] <zbenjamin> Mirv: yeah sounds good :), but i would prefer a machine with systemd so i could use systemd-nspawn
[10:07] <Mirv> zbenjamin: ah damn but that starts to become slightly more problematic when one wants to run qemu inside LXC or route USB device to it... aaanyway, it might be that this is simply because I'm now using just the laptop itself, normally I use external mouse/keyboard and this is probably related to the touchpad input driver vs old Qt
[10:07] <Mirv> zbenjamin: I'm already quite in the deep water for myself, running graphical apps via LXC :)
[10:07] <zbenjamin> :D
[11:30] <ahoneybun> popey: the new Music icon hit! and it looks great!
[12:30] <TLyngeJ> I need to access a Google service API (books), that does not yet exist in the OnlineAccount's. How does one achieve that?
[12:33] <sturmflut2> TLyngeJ: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/online-accounts-developer-guide/ , at the bottom
[12:33] <TLyngeJ> I've tried to define the new service in the app.service and app.application files, but it seems like something else is needed to get the new triggered.
[12:34] <TLyngeJ> Ohh, let's have a look at that.
[12:34] <sturmflut2> TLyngeJ: I think google books uses OAuth 2.0, so it should be easier
[12:34] <TLyngeJ> it does
[12:44] <ahoneybun> popey: I should let Stallman play Stallboard lol
[12:45] <popey> good luck with that
[12:45] <ahoneybun> XD
[12:45] <ahoneybun> he is going to be at an event I'm going to
[12:45] <popey> I'd be interested to know what he says :)
[12:45] <popey> (record what he says for version 2) :)
[12:45] <ahoneybun> lol
[12:46] <ahoneybun> popey: I just downloaded Snowball World going to play it in a bit
[12:46] <ahoneybun> looks cool
[12:46] <davmor2> popey: he won't touch it will he is ubuntu and full of spyware and stuff
[12:47] <ahoneybun> true davmor2
[12:47] <popey> dpm: i can create milestones in app specific projects, how on earth do you make them in ubuntu-phone-coreapps so they're accessible to blueprints?
[12:47] <popey> That 'add milestone' button always eludes me
[12:47] <popey> davmor2: we have a sound for that :)
[12:47] <davmor2> popey: I know
[12:50] <dpm> popey, I think you can't have both (app-specific milestones and global blueprints). So if the milestones apply to all apps, then we can file them under the ubuntu-phone-coreapps-common project (and BPs as well). If the milestones are _not_ global, then we can file them and the BPs under the one app
[12:51] <popey> dpm: right, i made them under the app because you need them there for bug tagging
[12:51] <popey> but the bp is under commons
[12:51] <popey> (I have always found this incredibly frustrating, and was only done this way for the burndown charts iirc)
[12:52] <popey> dpm: shall i move the bp to the app?
[12:52] <dpm> popey, yeah, that's what I was going to suggest
[12:52] <popey> given a) its app specific and we dont use burndown
[12:52] <popey> ok
[12:52] <dpm> indeed
[12:52] <popey> also b)
[12:52] <popey> ok
[12:53] <dpm> yeah, app-specific milestones and app-specific BP that matches those milestones
[12:57] <ahoneybun> is ListItem.Standard dead?
[12:58] <ahoneybun> in Ubuntu.Compontents 1.2?
[13:03] <ahoneybun> I now just using ListItem but it has some weird spacing when using Label
[13:05] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/NXensVQ
[13:07] <TLyngeJ> Right, so the bottom section, of page that was linked too, regarding adding access to a new service at Google, apparently descripes how to add a new provider, like Google, not add a new service to an existing provider.
[13:08] <TLyngeJ> I tried to have a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/files/691 to see how that register the calander service, but I got none the wiser.
[13:09] <popey> TLyngeJ: huh?
[13:12] <TLyngeJ> popey: You know how the core app add access to the Google calendar API, in the OnlineAccounts? I'd like to acheive the same, just for Google Books.
[13:12] <popey> Oh, nice idea.
[13:12] <popey> youtube app does the same
[13:13] <TLyngeJ> From my app I can access the already existing provider services (like gmail and calendar), but I can see the service that I've defined in my own .service file.
[13:14] <TLyngeJ> I also took a neak peek into /usr/share/accounts/services/google-calendar.service, but still no dice.
[13:14]  * TLyngeJ takes a look-see at the youtube app.
[13:17] <ahoneybun> so removing useDeprecatedToolbar got me this: qml: Page.tools is a deprecated property. Please use Page.head instead
[13:18] <ahoneybun> so much changes in 1.2
[13:19]  * ahoneybun is pulling out his hair from these changes
[13:19] <ahoneybun> popey: is this still good to use?: import Ubuntu.Components.ListItems 1.0 as ListItem
[13:21]  * TLyngeJ returns frome http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-youtube-dev/ubuntu-youtube-app/trunk/files
[13:22] <popey> ahoneybun: pass, maybe poke t1mp or zsombi
[13:22] <TLyngeJ> I think that app is running of black magic. There is barely any code in there...
[13:22] <ahoneybun> the SDK does not like ListItem.Standard anymore...
[13:23] <popey> ahoneybun: maybe look at another app which uses ListItem and see what it uses
[13:28] <ahoneybun> popey: finding a project that use Ubuntu.Compontents 1.2 is hard lol
[13:31] <popey> ahoneybun: one mo
[13:31] <ahoneybun> I just added the ListItems compontent for the heck of it
[13:31] <popey> i wrote a script somewhere which scans every app in the store and reports what they use
[13:32] <ahoneybun> it is just that this page: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.ListItem/
[13:32] <ahoneybun> seems to say that the core Ubuntu.Compontent imports ListItem
[13:36] <karni> ahoneybun: hey pal. I noticed that too. It basically seems there currently is no good "non-deprecated" replacement for those Ubuntu.Components.ListItems other than a bareboes ListView from Ubuntu.Components (that supports swipe actions, etc). You need to flesh it out yourself. I was actually thinking of fixing the situation and work out a set of reusable listview components I would submit to ubuntu component store, but I'm currently a tad ...
[13:36] <karni> ... busy. I may get to it though some time.
[13:37] <ahoneybun> karni: currently I'm just using: import Ubuntu.Components.ListItems 1.0 as ListItem for the time being
[13:37] <ahoneybun> still
[13:37] <karni> TBH I'm a bit surprized with the decision to go ahead with barebones ListView and deprecate all those old ones
[13:37] <karni> ahoneybun: yeah, that'll work for some time at least
[13:39] <ahoneybun> I really should use UbuntuShape for my Family tab...
[13:41] <ahoneybun> I want to use the toolbar items
[13:44] <t1mp> ahoneybun: there should be no problem using Ubuntu.Components.ListItems
[13:45] <ahoneybun> thanks t1mp
[13:45] <t1mp> ahoneybun: although in 1.2 we have the new ListItem component that will replace the Ubuntu.Components.ListItems
[13:45] <t1mp> ahoneybun: for the new ListItem we do not have default layouts yet, so everything that is inside the list item (title, icon, ..) you have to add yourself
[13:46] <DF___> Hey there
[13:46] <ahoneybun> t1mp: so ListItem.Standard/Header and such are gone?
[13:46] <t1mp> ahoneybun: see https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.ListItem/ and https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/15/retrospective-and-roadmap-ui-toolkit/
[13:46] <DF___> some one know anything about creating a webservice ??
[13:46] <t1mp> ahoneybun: they still exist, but they will be removed for UITK 2.0 (which we did not yet start to work on)
[13:47] <ahoneybun> so I have time
[13:47] <t1mp> ahoneybun: yes
[13:47] <ahoneybun> all these changes
[13:47] <t1mp> ahoneybun: ListItem.Standard etc. are still even in UITK 1.3 (which we are working on but is not released yet)
[13:48] <ahoneybun> ok
[13:48] <t1mp> ahoneybun: but the new ListItem has cool new features such as left/right swipe to show actions, and its performance is very good
[13:49] <ahoneybun> thats cool and all but I never have used it for that so not much use to me but a headache
[13:49] <t1mp> ahoneybun: here is a short list of improvements for the ListItem https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/03/30/ubuntu-components-1-2-release/
[13:50] <t1mp> ahoneybun: okay
[13:50] <ahoneybun> thanks for the info very much t1mp
[13:51] <ahoneybun> how would I use toolbaritems with tabs?
[13:52] <t1mp> ahoneybun: what do you mean with toolbaritems?
[13:52] <ahoneybun> code: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/ubuntu-beginner/2.0/files
[13:52] <t1mp> if by toolbar, you mean the bar you can swipe in from the bottom, that is deprecated
[13:52] <ahoneybun> I want a Info button on the header bar
[13:54] <t1mp> ahoneybun: set Page.head.actions: [ yourAction ]
[13:54] <t1mp> ahoneybun: see https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.PageHeadConfiguration/
[13:54] <ahoneybun> so this is uselss for this?:https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarButton/
[13:55] <t1mp> ahoneybun: yes, it is useless.
[13:55] <t1mp> we should have that marked as deprecated, something is wrong with the docs
[13:55] <popey> DF___: i think you need to explain what you mean by web service
[13:55] <ahoneybun> very hard to keep up to date
[13:55] <t1mp> oh we didn't mark it as deprecated
[13:56] <ahoneybun> t1mp: so when I click the item I want it to load a qml file
[13:56] <ahoneybun> the about.qml file
[13:58] <t1mp> ahoneybun: probably you should put a PageStack in your app, and you can do something like Page.head.actions: [ Action { iconName: "help"; onTriggered: pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("about.qml")) } ]
[13:58] <t1mp> ah there is a standard icon for info also, so you can use iconName: "info"
[13:58] <ahoneybun> t1mp: but I think tabs work best for this no?
[13:58] <mcphail> nemo: going to be a while before I can run the rebuild
[13:58] <ahoneybun> I was just looking for its name
[13:59] <t1mp> ahoneybun: using a PageStack seems good to me.
[13:59] <koda> o/
[13:59] <ahoneybun> t1mp: seems hard for me
[13:59] <t1mp> ahoneybun: Tabs always appear in the dropdown menu on the left of the title. I think an action in the header that pushes the new page on a PageStack is better.
[14:00] <ahoneybun> oh?
[14:00] <ahoneybun> hey koda
[14:00] <t1mp> ahoneybun: there are some PageStack examples here https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.PageStack/
[14:00] <ahoneybun> got it open t1mp :)
[14:00] <t1mp> you could use Tabs too, that is up to you. But for Tabs you cannot set the icon in the header
[14:00] <t1mp> :)
[14:01] <koda> hi!
[14:02] <ahoneybun> t1mp: all the pages are on top of each other lol
[14:06] <popey> nemo: mcphail sorry for moving you but i know other devs lurk here and may get benefit from your conversation :)
[14:07] <t1mp> ahoneybun: did you define them inside the PageStack? iirc they should be hidden automatically then
[14:07] <t1mp> ahoneybun: otherwise set visible: false for the Pages. The PageStack will make them visible again when you push them
[14:07] <ahoneybun> something is up lol
[14:07] <ahoneybun> foreign language to me t1mp lol
[14:08] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11841618/
[14:13] <t1mp> ahoneybun: yeah, you must set the visible property of the Pages to false
[14:13] <t1mp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11841633/
[14:13] <t1mp> ahoneybun: ^
[14:13] <ahoneybun> t1mp: this is it now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11841636/
[14:15] <t1mp> ahoneybun: that is a bit strange
[14:15] <ahoneybun> why?
[14:15] <t1mp> ahoneybun: I think in Component.onCompleted you only want to push your root page
[14:16] <ahoneybun> yea..
[14:16] <t1mp> you are pushing a different page now
[14:16] <ahoneybun> I changed it
[14:16] <t1mp> or maybe you do want the Home page, but you have a root page defined as well
[14:18] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11841660/
[14:18] <ahoneybun> I have the 2 pages but they are overlaping
[14:24] <ahoneybun> got it I think
[14:32] <ahoneybun> the sdk does not want to run the app on the device for some reason
[15:02] <beuno> store is going to be a bit down while we work on some issues
[15:02] <beuno> downloading of packages, specifically
[15:28] <mcphail> nemo: think I'm going to have to give up on this for today. Need to work out how to build the pascal cross-compiler cleanly
[15:28] <nemo> :-/
[15:28] <nemo> kk
[15:29] <nemo> well. maybe can find someone like kenvandine who is building natively
[15:29] <nemo> mcphail: I'm confused tho. how is upstream doing this?
[15:29] <nemo> mcphail: you can't push to whatever build machine they are using for ARM?
[15:30] <mcphail> nemo: that might be an idea. I could build a PPA
[15:31] <nemo> mcphail: I was initially hoping you could just make minor changes to whatever ubuntu process was in use.
[15:31] <nemo> although, might be more convoluted for making repeated changes
[15:32] <mcphail> nemo: I can make the minor changes and let the PPA build-bot produce a deb. I can rip the binary from that and roll it in a click
[15:32] <mcphail> nemo: I can't directly install the deb as I don't have a separate phone for development. My bq is my only phone and I need it for work
[15:33] <nemo> I hope the build machine has SDL2
[15:34] <mcphail> nemo: the build machine has whatever you tell it to have :)
[15:35] <mcphail> nemo: if anyone else has an ARm device, they might be able to build locally before I get a chance to roll a PPA. Keep asking
[15:38] <DF___> popey
[15:38] <DF___> MSG pgp
[16:58] <ahayzen> popey, yo, did you sort your ms2 issues? ;-)
[16:58] <popey> nope
[16:59] <popey> save me obi wan
[16:59] <ahayzen> haha oh god
[16:59] <ahayzen> so whats the situation?
[17:01] <ahayzen> popey, $ mediascanner-service-2.0 .. came back with an error right?
[17:01] <ahayzen> popey, that one you sent me looks very systemd'y... does upstart for user services still exist on wily?
[17:02] <popey> no, that works
[17:02] <popey> just running it on its own successfully murders my ssd and cpu
[17:02] <ahayzen> ah yeah if you have 5
[17:03] <popey> music app still dies tho
[17:03] <popey> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what():  Tried to open a db with schema version -1, while supported version is 8.
[17:03] <popey> Aborted (core dumped)
[17:03] <ahayzen> ..50GB of music and 25 of pictures/videos your pretty stuffed
[17:03] <ahayzen> hmmm and ms2 finished its scan right?
[17:03] <popey> its scanning all my cat pictures
[17:03] <popey> no
[17:03] <ahayzen> it *has* to finish
[17:03] <popey> bah
[17:03] <popey> that blows goats
[17:03] <popey> ok, finished
[17:03] <ahayzen> otherwise the db is in a locked/partial state
[17:04] <popey> \o/
[17:04]  * ahayzen hates the current situation
[17:04] <ahayzen> popey, so what happens if you run music now?
[17:04] <popey> it works \o/
[17:05] <ahayzen> \o/
[17:06] <ahayzen> now go and tell the ms2 guys it takes *far* to long to scan on the desktop lol
[17:06] <popey> ya
[17:06] <popey> ooh, i have a ton of bugs to file now :)
[17:06]  * ahayzen suspects that it is commiting to the db between every scan of a file
[17:06] <popey> well, at least two
[17:06] <ahayzen> why not batch in at least sets of 10
[17:07] <popey> haha
[17:07] <popey> OKAY!
[17:07] <ahayzen> i don't mind filing one for that ^^ i've been meaning to for a while ;-)
[17:08] <popey> ok, how about this - minimise on close.
[17:08] <ahayzen> minimise on close?
[17:08] <popey> every other music app does that
[17:08] <popey> press x - music continues
[17:08] <ogra_> awful
[17:08] <ahayzen> but how do you get it back?
[17:08] <popey> hah
[17:08] <ahayzen> and i've said close...so close!
[17:08] <popey> click it in the launcher
[17:08] <ogra_> ahayzen, from launcher or indicator
[17:08] <ahayzen> what happens if its not in the launcher?
[17:08] <popey> try it with rhythmbox, spotify, banshee, clementine
[17:09] <popey> they _all_ do it
[17:09] <ahayzen> and the indicator doesn't exist at the moment lol
[17:09]  * ogra_ hates that behavior
[17:09] <ahayzen> and they _all_ confuse new folks
[17:09] <ahayzen> "arg i closed it but its still playing"
[17:09] <popey> ignore grandpa, he was injured in the war
[17:09] <ogra_> a close button should close ... not minimize
[17:09] <ogra_> (says gampa)
[17:09] <popey> I'll file a bug and ubuntu-ux and you can argue about it
[17:09] <ahayzen> so how would you *close* the app in you case? ... press minimize ?
[17:09] <popey> CTRL+Q
[17:09] <popey> File -> Close (lol)
[17:10] <popey> swipe up
[17:10] <ahayzen> what happens with no keyboard ?
[17:10] <ogra_> open the menu, selest quit
[17:10] <popey> etc
[17:10] <ogra_> *select
[17:10] <ahayzen> and on the mobile what happens there?
[17:10] <popey> swipe up - it gets killed
[17:10] <popey> because that means really go away
[17:10] <popey> but on mobile you dont have an X
[17:10] <ahayzen> because a swipe up is different from pressing X lol
[17:10] <popey> it is in every other music app :)
[17:11] <popey> happy to thrash out the pros and cons in a bug :)
[17:11] <popey> I am not wedded to that behaviour, I just think we should consider it
[17:11] <ogra_> consistently designed  breakage :)
[17:11] <popey> hah
[17:11] <ahayzen> i mean if we have the spread on the desktop/converged then you'll have a swipe up *and* a X
[17:11] <ahayzen> surely they both mean 'close this app'
[17:11] <popey> well, you shouldn't have to close apps
[17:12] <popey> but in the desktop people are trained to do it
[17:12]  * ahayzen thinks it is another thing that gives value to his settings page idea for convergence
[17:12] <popey> heh
[17:12]  * popey files it anyway
[17:12] <ahayzen> hehe ;-0
[17:13] <ahayzen> we need indicator support first :-) and i guess media-hub would need to know the difference between the 'close' and the 'close to minimise'
[17:14] <ahayzen> popey, oh and btw VLC player closes when i press close ;-)
[17:14]  * ahayzen hugs trusty VLC player
[17:15] <ogra_> ahayzen, yeah, thats the reason why i use it :)
[17:15] <ahayzen> until music-app becomes viable on desktop, same for me :-)
[17:16] <popey> haha, just tested this with rhythmbox
[17:16] <popey> opened it, pressed play, pressed ALT+F4, window is gone
[17:16] <popey> can't find it anywhere :S
[17:16] <popey> this may not be an optimal example :)
[17:16] <ogra_> indicator
[17:16] <popey> nope
[17:16] <popey> oh, sound
[17:16] <popey> right
[17:16] <ahayzen> yeah i've heard that from *every* knew user lol
[17:16] <ogra_> yep
[17:17] <ahayzen> oh and don't close RB while it is scanning it causes apport to think its crashed :-)
[17:17] <popey> when you click the indicator, it opens, minimised
[17:17] <popey> thats crazy
[17:17] <ogra_> haha
[17:17] <ogra_> you never tried it before ?
[17:17]  * popey closes bug report for another day
[17:17] <ahayzen> i remember it being slightly broken last time, hence VLC player :-)
[17:17] <popey> this is madness
[17:17] <ogra_> yes
[17:17] <ogra_> by design
[17:17]  * ahayzen assumes RB folks will blame unity
[17:17] <ogra_> there were long discussions on desktop before it got implemented like that
[17:17] <popey> haha, CTRLQ no longer works
[17:17] <popey> what the absolute F
[17:18] <popey> it is _impossible_ to close rb
[17:18] <ahayzen> Ctrl+Q isn't an option just Ctrl+W for "close window"
[17:18] <ogra_> popey, from the menu
[17:18] <ahayzen> popey, you should be using Gnome Music now anyway? it looks much nicer
[17:18] <popey> hah, it was close in the past
[17:18] <ogra_> i dont think there is any other way
[17:18] <popey> they did this to annoy me
[17:18] <ogra_> not only you
[17:18] <ogra_> but there is always VLC
[17:18] <ogra_> ;)
[17:18] <popey> port that then, chop chop
[17:19] <ogra_> nah, waiting for studio_ to do that
[17:19]  * popey anticipates snappy mentioned shortly
[17:19] <ogra_> :P
[17:19] <ahayzen> yeah what happened to the VLC discussions from like 1yr+ ago
[17:20] <ahayzen> popey, what does Banshee do ?
[17:20] <ogra_> it still exists ?
[17:20] <ahayzen> or are you an anti-mono guy? ;-)
[17:20] <popey> I am not
[17:20] <popey> I am pro free software, so I am pro mono
[17:20] <ahayzen> otherwise try Gnome Music http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/music-the-gnome-music-player-is-getting-smart-new-features
[17:20]  * ogra_ thought that died
[17:20] <ahayzen> 'next gen'
[17:21]  * popey imports music into banshee
[17:21] <popey> just the 3 databases of music then
[17:21] <ahayzen> \o/  1 in XML..2 in sqlite ?
[17:21] <popey> banshee at least raises the window when you click the indicator
[17:21] <popey> yeah
[17:21] <popey> none sent to google or apple tho ㋛
[17:22] <ahayzen> hah thats what you think ;-)
[17:22] <popey> wow, i own some terrible music
[17:22] <ahayzen> popey, tomorrow all your ads will have ABBA in them
[17:22] <popey> haha
[17:22] <popey> 2 unlimited actually :)
[17:23] <popey> I forgot how much i like banshee
[17:23]  * ahayzen wonders what the state of clementine/listen/amarok etc is these days
[17:25] <ahayzen> time to install all the music things!
[17:25] <popey> oh, also, media keys pls
[17:25] <ahayzen> haha my media-keys with VLC was fun
[17:25] <popey> do we have a bug for that already?
[17:25] <ahayzen> yeah somewhere
[17:25] <ahayzen> it will "come for free" with background-playlists IIRC
[17:26] <ahayzen> as media-hub will do it for us
[17:26] <ahayzen> right jhodapp ^^ ?
[17:26] <popey> oh
[17:26] <ahayzen> as our app will be stopped anyway so it'll have to be mh or something that will need todo the next/previous/toggle
[17:26]  * popey adds media-hub to the list of things that will save us including click, snappy, mir, unity8 and juju
[17:26] <jhodapp> ahayzen, which part exactly, media keys?
[17:27] <ahayzen> jhodapp, yeah that'll be in media-hub right? and will work once we have bg-playlists done?
[17:27] <popey> no bugs with key or keyboard that look appropriate
[17:27] <jhodapp> ahayzen, it won't be media-hub, it'll most likely be an indicator and the indicator will call play/pause next/prev via the MPRIS interface down to media-hub
[17:28] <ahayzen> ah yes
[17:28] <ahayzen> popey, that ^^
[17:28] <jhodapp> ahayzen, I'm not quite sure if the indicator implements that yet for phone
[17:28] <ahayzen> i remember seeing bugs for it and them being fixed
[17:28] <popey> wow, banshee is _impossible_ to kill
[17:29] <ahayzen> $ killall banshee ?
[17:29] <nemo> Anyone here feel like attempting an ubuntu touch compile of hedgewars for me? basically that thing mcphail brought up prior
[17:29] <ogra_> apt-get purge banshee ?
[17:29] <ogra_> (ah, wait ... that wont kill it)
[17:29] <popey> alt+f4, CTRL+w and close button, none of them close it
[17:29] <jhodapp> ahayzen, cool
[17:29] <ahayzen> right bug 1398427 had some related code
[17:29] <popey> nemo: whats needed?
[17:30] <ahayzen> then we have bug 1437483 and bug 1231909 tracking headphone controls (basically media-keys) not *yet* working
[17:30] <popey> ahayzen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1472716
[17:31] <popey> guess that maybe related / dupe
[17:31] <ahayzen> hahah can i merge the 3 bugs into 1? :'(
[17:32] <nemo> popey: welll pretty much compiling standard ubuntu package, but with flag MOBILE set
[17:32] <nemo> popey: and a line in hedgewars/options.inc removed
[17:32] <nemo> for ARM ofc
[17:32] <popey> heh
[17:33] <popey> maybe wait till mcphail gets back later?
[17:33] <popey> save duplicating what he was doing
[17:34] <nemo> popey: 11:35 < mcphail> nemo: if anyone else has an ARm device, they might be able to build locally before I get a chance to roll a PPA. Keep asking
[17:34] <nemo> was just going along w/ his request from a couple of hours ago
[17:35] <popey> ahh
[17:36] <popey> ok, i have a device :)
[17:37] <nemo> cool. welp. if it interests you
[17:37] <nemo> kenvandine tried yesterday but didn't have enough space on his
[17:37] <popey> haha
[17:37] <nemo> and apparently no desire to muck about w/ microsd or nfsmount
[17:37] <popey> mine is pretty empty
[17:38]  * popey installs build deps
[17:38] <nemo> should have same dependencies as standard ubuntu package, apart from using GLES11 and SDL2
[17:38] <popey> After this operation, 856 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[17:38] <popey> ho ho ho
[17:38] <nemo> niiice
[17:38] <nemo> wow. that's a lot
[17:38] <nemo> popey: oh
[17:38] <nemo> popey: you don't need server or video recording
[17:38] <nemo> at least for testing
[17:38] <nemo> that would allow skipping libav and all of haskell
[17:39] <nemo> the rest of the bloat is I 'spose qt
[17:39] <popey> x
[17:39] <popey> python 2.7
[17:39] <popey> all sorts of nonsense
[17:39] <nemo> oh. is this phone not a dev env already?
[17:39] <nemo> huh. what on earth do we use python for???
[17:39] <nemo> that must be some ubuntu packaging thing
[17:40] <nemo> popey: https://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/wiki/BuildingOnLinux the deps *we* are aware of 😝
[17:41] <popey> yeah
[17:41] <popey> I planned to build a deb
[17:41] <popey> because i know that works
[17:42] <nemo> fair 'nuff
[17:42] <nemo> popey: general goal was to see if the game could be playable on ubuntu touch w/ hopefully minor changes
[17:42] <nemo> 'cause I bet it isn't right now
[17:42] <popey> sure
[17:43] <nemo> which would finally mean we'd have a functioning mobile port again, for first time in years, which is neat
[17:44] <nemo> http://www.ganggarrison.com/filehost/hedgeroid/hw-android-netplaydemo.apk  this is probably the most recent android work that has gotten any love and it is waaaaaay out of date
[17:44] <nemo> done in 2012
[17:44] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-07-08-184354.png battery gauge on my nexus 7 is hilarious
[17:45] <ogra_> popey, stop shaking it all the time
[17:45] <ogra_> someone should fix the screenshot orientation defaults :P
[17:46]  * popey adds a rotation option to his network screenshot script
[17:47] <ogra_> cheating !
[17:48] <popey> nemo: boooo E: IO Error to output - fwrite (28: No space left on device)
[17:48] <ogra_> lol
[17:49] <ogra_> you are the third now
[17:51] <nemo> popey: microsd or nfsmount? ☹
[17:51] <nemo> yeesh you guys have tiny devices
[17:51] <ogra_> they all try on nexus tablets :)
[17:51] <nemo> I have a 4GiB ubuntu image on my nexus 5 just in case I need it, or for hedgewars *desktop* development
[17:51] <nemo>  (ISO in a chroot)
[17:54] <popey> uh, no.
[17:54] <popey> better off building in an arm enabled ppa
[17:55] <popey> To the cloud!
[17:56]  * popey wonders what channel to re-flash his nexus 7 to
[17:57] <ogra_> shiny-proposed
[17:57] <popey> ubuntu-touch/devel/krillin.en ?
[17:58] <ogra_> not sure there is a flo image in there
[17:58] <popey> why does u-d-f list it then?
[17:58] <popey> ubuntu-device-flash query --device=flo --list-channels
[17:58] <ogra_> did you give it the device name ?
[17:58] <ogra_> heh
[17:58] <ogra_> sounds like a boog
[18:01] <popey> pffft
[18:01] <popey> back to devel-proposed
[19:08] <TLyngeJ> I need access to the Google Books API, through the OnlineAccount, using a HTML5 app. Anyone who can point me in the right direction?
[19:09] <TLyngeJ> I already have .service and the .application file in place (i think), but it seems like somethin is missing.
[19:09] <TLyngeJ> I already read this https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/online-accounts-developer-guide/
[20:41] <popey> mhall119: started using ureadit, it's rather good!
[20:45] <popey> and just noticed http://news.softpedia.com/news/ureadit-3-is-an-awesome-reddit-browser-for-ubuntu-touch-486382.shtml
[20:57] <mhall119> popey: just now you've started using it?
[21:11] <popey> ya
[22:44]  * mcphail is learning more than he ever thought he wanted to know about virtualised cross-architecture chroots


[16:40] <balloons> czajkowski, congrats on the new job!
[17:40] <czajkowski> balloons: thanks :)
[19:34] <mhall119> belkinsa: ping
[19:34] <belkinsa> pong
[19:34] <belkinsa> I'm subscribed to the list on LP.
[19:35] <mhall119> belkinsa: hey, sorry I didn't see your email to the uos-track-leads (it turns out members aren't auto-subscribed), but you are correct about blueprint naming, community-1411-<topic>
[19:35] <mhall119> belkinsa: yeah, one of the few who were :)
[19:38] <belkinsa> It's cool.  And alright.  I think I may of ran into a problem: somehow this blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1411-ubuntuwomen) that I created isn't showing up on the UOS scheduler.
[19:39] <mhall119> belkinsa: the import cron jobs need an update, I've filed an RT for that
[19:39] <belkinsa> Ah, I see.


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 Finally able to log in again on QA test tracker site
[04:46] <Maik> confirmed, login works again
[15:10] <bdmurray> Great, I'm glad that's sorted!
 Thanks again (re @ubuntu_bridge_Bot: (irc) <bdmurray> Great, I'm glad that's sorted!)


[14:47] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, zequence: Is there ANY sort of code not landed in the archive?
[15:09] <zequence> smartboyhw: I think you'd be the best one to tell, since you've been the one getting some packages uploaded recently
[15:09] <smartboyhw> zequence, mine's passed (except the SRU is still in queue, but it's not urgent)


[02:19] <Jordan_U> !guidelines > feioso
[06:52] <bazhang> small caps?
[11:49] <pangolin> @mark #ubuntu html warned about being off topic.
[13:30] <oCean> * Linuxsucks<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Hmmm
[13:35] <Tm_T> oCean: must be some helpful guy
[13:36] <oCean> I think it's sabdfl syping on us
[13:37] <pangolin> on a Sunday?
[13:37] <pangolin> also eyes open on papsky/popsky
[13:37] <pangolin> hmm or not
[15:22] <pangolin> ikonia: :(
[15:22] <ikonia> pangolin: the permissions are wrong on the file
[15:22] <ikonia> that's all
[15:25] <pangolin> well the expert emery knows all.
[15:25] <pangolin> see how long it takes for him to decide to reinstall
[15:25] <ikonia> it could be any thing, setuid on the sudo binary, etc
[15:26] <ikonia> but don't worry, rush in, create a root account (???) and then edit the file (despite the file containing the admin group setup default)
[15:26] <ikonia> just stupid
[15:28] <pangolin> you should ask theduck if he wants to fix it now or continue to follow bad advice
[15:28] <ikonia> nah,
[15:28] <ikonia> I warned the duck not to follow and he ignored it, so let him wreck his system
[18:49] <Myrtti> @login
[18:49] <ikonia> @login
[18:49] <Myrtti> the hell
[18:50] <Myrtti> I wouldn't be able to keep my bloody cloak and nickname if I weren't identified
[18:50] <ikonia> however btlogin works fine
[18:50] <Myrtti> I get absolutely *no* response from the bot
[18:50] <ikonia> !ping
[18:50] <ikonia> odd
[18:51] <pangolin> @whoami
[18:51] <Myrtti> factoids work
[18:51] <pangolin> LIES
[18:51] <Myrtti> @whoami
[18:51] <Myrtti> aaaaaaaaand nothing happens.
[18:51] <Pici> I just do 'btlogin' in pm with ubottu and it works
[18:51] <pangolin> strange
[18:51] <Myrtti> pjupppp.
[18:52] <pangolin> that's one for jussi I guess
[18:53] <Myrtti> well it doesn't seem to have the proper cloak either
[18:54] <ikonia> I wonder if it's something to do with the new cloaks ?
[18:54] <pangolin> but it recognizes the rest of us
[18:54] <ikonia> not me
[18:54] <ikonia> well, it does with factoids
[18:54] <ikonia> @whoami
[18:54] <oCean> @whoami
[18:54] <ikonia> oh, it does
[18:54] <Myrtti> ;____;
[18:57] <mneptok> @login
[18:57]  * mneptok feels the love
[18:57] <pangolin> @login
[18:58] <Myrtti> @whoami
[18:58] <pangolin> yeah the @login is not a good test
[19:04] <Flannel> If you can successfully get the supybot portion to recognize you (your password may be required), you can add the new cloak to your list.
[19:05] <Tm_T> @whoami
[19:05] <Tm_T> I'm not tm_t ):
[19:14] <oCean> Foulad, jtokarchuk hello
[19:14] <Foulad> hi
[19:15] <oCean> Foulad: what's up?
[19:15] <Foulad> is there is any way to access my ubuntu using http like
[19:15] <Foulad> www.ubuntu.com/tour/
[19:15] <jtokarchuk> oCean: Just checking it out, I presume you do not want users idling here?
[19:15] <Foulad> or citrix ?
[19:15] <Tm_T> jtokarchuk: correct (:
[19:15] <oCean> jtokarchuk: that's correct. But this is the channel to use when reporting malicious behaviour and such
[19:16] <oCean> jtokarchuk: thanks for letting us know
[19:16] <jtokarchuk> oCean: Roger. Know for next time.
[19:16] <oCean> Foulad: this is not a general support channel

[19:16] <Foulad> im just asking if you have such feature
[19:16] <Foulad> or planning to
[19:16] <Myrtti> you were doing fine in #ubuntu
[19:17] <oCean> Foulad: I expect it's something custom made for the site
[19:17] <Myrtti> Foulad: you're asking in the wrong channel.
[19:17] <Myrtti> in so many ways it's baffling why you joined here to ask it
[19:19] <Myrtti> Foulad: did you have an issue that needs channel ops resolving it?
 only freezing issue
 with 2D seems working fine
[19:20] <Myrtti> Foulad: er
[19:20] <Myrtti> no.
[19:20] <oCean> Foulad: this channel,,, is NOT a support channel
[19:20] <Myrtti> Foulad: are you being spammed in #ubuntu
[19:20] <Myrtti> Foulad: have you been banned in #ubuntu
[19:21] <Myrtti> Foulad: do you have an issue with the #ubuntu channel?
 no im not
[19:21] <Myrtti> then ask in #ubuntu
 i will go there
[19:21] <Myrtti> thank you.
[19:21] <Foulad> thank you guys
[19:21]  * oCean waves
[19:47] <pangolin> !ops-#lubuntu
[19:48] <pangolin> !no ops-#lubuntu is <reply> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - bioterror, elfgoh, head_victim, hyperair, jmarsden, MichealH, Mohan-chml, phillw, stlsaint, Unit193
[23:14] <jtokarchuk> Hello ?
[23:14] <ikonia> hi
[23:14] <jtokarchuk> Hey ikonia, had a question about the Ubuntu-doc channel topic
[23:15] <jtokarchuk> http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 <-- unsure of why this is there? confused? Was looking for somewhere to get involved
[23:16] <ikonia> jtokarchuk: that link isn't in the topic
[23:16] <ikonia> oh, it is
[23:16] <ikonia> and it's not appropriate either
[23:16] <jtokarchuk> Alright, was pretty sure that was the case.
[23:17] <ikonia> thanks jtokarchuk
[23:17] <ikonia> jussi: nhandler_ topyli  elky  woth looking, that really doesn't look like a link that should be in the topic of the ubuntu-docs channel
[23:17] <jtokarchuk> ikonia: No probs, toodles.
[23:17] <ikonia> or "#ubuntu-doc"
[23:18] <elky> oh lovely, mdke's been hacked by the looks
[23:18] <ikonia> that would be an understatment.....
[23:19] <elky> i will /msg him, he's online
[23:19] <ikonia> danke
[23:19] <popey> hacked?
[23:19] <ikonia> popey: check the URL
[23:20] <elky> popey, look at the url
[23:20] <popey> ah, sorry thought you meant irc
[23:20] <ikonia> popey: unless mdke's got a hacking crew together
[23:20] <popey> (he irc's from my box)
[23:20] <ikonia> no no no
[23:20] <ikonia> I am in your box
[23:20] <ikonia> hacking
[23:21] <elky> popey, if you talk to him at all, can you follow up please?
[23:21] <ikonia> maybe it's something we should try to push the use of the wiki for
[23:22] <popey> left him a pm, but I dont have his mobile number
[23:22] <ikonia> (although that doesn't help poor mdke's box)
[23:23] <ikonia> wonder how long that's been like that
[23:23] <elky> google seems to have sensible stuff from august
[23:24] <ikonia> annoyin
[23:24] <ikonia> annoying
[23:24] <elky> oh lordy... http://mdke.org/tmp/help.ubuntu.com/
[23:24] <popey> looks like he's taken it down
[23:24] <popey> oh, no
[23:25] <ikonia> am I missing something ? he's mirrored the ubuntu site ?
[23:25] <popey> no, he's in the doc team
[23:26] <elky> but that could mean the docs site could be compromised if this isn't sorted
[23:26] <ikonia> sorry, I meant the wiki, not main website
[23:26] <ikonia> I know he's in the doc team
[23:26] <elky> iirc, he's on dreamhost
[23:26] <popey> why could the docs site be compromised?
[23:26] <ikonia> he won't have kept passwords or anything there would he, it just looks like a straight mirror
[23:26] <popey> chances are his wordpress site was hacked
[23:27] <Myrtti> oh dear
[23:27] <ikonia> keeping on top of a wordpress site is a full time job with the volume of version updates
[23:27] <elky> dreamhost are really struggling to stop haxoring via old sites on shared boxen
[23:29] <ikonia> at least if it's dream host they can do an image based OS re-install
[23:30] <elky> i'm going to contact them, a down site is better than a hacked one
[23:30] <popey> he's mailed me back, he's working on it
[23:30] <popey> thanks chaps
[23:30] <ikonia> super
[23:30] <ikonia> that's a quick response
[23:30] <elky> oh good thanks
[23:32] <elky> popey, he should probably contact dreamhost anyway, they have scans they run to pick up on files that are indicative of activity. they'll need to be run on that entire box
[23:32] <popey> yeah, he has
[23:32] <elky> awesome
[23:37] <elky> ohdear
[23:37] <elky> he's multiplying again


[00:44] <Bashing-om> guiverc: With your “Ubuntu IRC Team” team hat on -- I have been updateing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuide and I am now at the point where I lack the qualifications to determine directives. Can you point to one who will be interested in making sure the doc is made to be currently relavant ?
[01:11] <guiverc> Bashing-om, sorry (for delay), but have you tried -IRC?  I'm far from the most skilled; mostly just 'around'
[01:15] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Sorry the term ^ -IRC escapes me. Presently I do not know where to turn to in an attempt to pass this editing operation off to one more qualified with channel operations.
[01:15] <guiverc> i meant #ubuntu-irc sorry
[01:17] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Naw - that is where this editing operation originated from - I volunteered there :(
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[01:29] <guiverc> sorry; on phone & other calls distracting; I haven't read it (now) but fear I'd likely be unable to help anyway
[01:45] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Nothing pressing - I have it now on a back burner :P
[01:49] <guiverc> :)   my list of things to do I've started & not completed is getting rather long..
[01:50] <Bashing-om> guiverc: "These things Happen" :P
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[16:10] <highvoltage> it kind of feels awkward that there's no more release team meetings on friday mornings
[16:27] <Laney> highvoltage: let's meet!
[16:27] <Laney> [topic] highvoltage to update laney on the latest cool television shows
[17:18] <highvoltage> Laney: oh sorry I had lunch :)
[17:19] <highvoltage> Laney: The Big Bang Theory is starting to get a lot better again


[02:14] <onehundredthirty> (completely) new package from Debian Sid (namely: uwsgi) after a week of presence in archive still not imported into Oneiric. should I just wait a bit longer or filing of explicit sync request is needed?
[02:48] <ScottK> onehundredthirty: Just wait.
[03:18] <onehundredthirty> ScottK: OK, I'm all the patience then. thanks for clarification.
[08:49] <ruhil> i am getting the error "dh: unable to load addon translations:cannot locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/translations.pm in @INC (@INC contains <some folder names here>)" while building the package with the command "bzr bd -- -S -us -uc"
[08:49] <ruhil> i am running natty please help me in resolving this error it's my first build
[08:52] <Ampelbein> ruhil: hmm, that is part of the dh-translations package.
[08:52] <Ampelbein> ruhil: where do you get that error?
[08:54] <ruhil> "dpkd-buildpackage: error: fakeroot: debain/rules clean gave error exit status 2" is it what you were asking?
[08:55] <Ampelbein> ruhil: no, what package are you trying to build?
[08:56] <ruhil> the package is unity
[08:58] <Ampelbein> ruhil: ok. it should work if you install 'dh-translations'. I can't help further though.
[09:05] <ruhil> Ampelbein: thanx it worked ( i had to install another package quilt)
[20:21] <shadeslayer_> hi, i was wondering if someone could tell me what the debian/installgen file does
[20:23] <Ampelbein> shadeslayer: I think they were used to automatically update the *.install files
[20:24] <Ampelbein> shadeslayer: I don't know if there is still a helper that actually uses them though.
[20:59] <shadeslayer_> Ampelbein: thanks :)


[11:35] <rbasak> kstenerud: how are you getting on?
[11:35] <kstenerud> rbasak trying to find the credentials files for the vpn
[11:35] <rbasak> kstenerud: OK. I'll leave you then. I'm going to disappear for a bit.
[13:08] <CrummyGummy_> Hi! I'm having an issue where udp traffic is getting to my server despite ufw not being set to allow the traffic. I had the same issue with shorewall. Am I doing something wrong?
[13:09] <CrummyGummy_> ufw looks like this https://paste.ee/p/opdRa
[13:10] <CrummyGummy_> and I can still do a dns lookup from that server and it is receiving sip invites
[14:18] <MJCD> hey all
[14:19] <MJCD> I installed the mail server as part of the install process
[14:19] <MJCD> but I dunno anything about administering such things
[14:19] <MJCD> is there some nice one with webmail and maybe a gui/web interface
[14:37] <Delvien> Is cockpit not available by default in ubuntu server 18.04.1 repos?
[14:41] <leftyfb> Delvien: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=cockpit
[14:43] <teward> Delvien: known bug in the system is that it doesn't enable universe and multiverse in the ISOs
[14:43] <teward> Delvien: go into your /etc/apt/sources.list and add 'universe multiverse' to the 'main restricted' lines.
[14:43] <Delvien> its weird.. new install cant find ANYTHING about cockpit with apt search
[14:43] <Delvien> ah, thats why then
[14:44] <teward> Delvien: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1082988/ubuntu-bionic-repo-list/1082990#1082990 and my answer here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1081243/why-do-i-need-to-enable-universe-repo-in-18-04-isnt-it-default-enabled/1081246#1081246 touch base on it
[14:44] <teward> Delvien: TL;DR the reason is a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1783129
[14:44] <teward> but it wasn't fixed on 18.04.1 ISOs
[14:55] <Delvien> teward: thanks, got it fixed.
[19:47] <shubjero> Anyone see this before? apt-cache thinks theres no installed kernel? haha https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tbKZxvqTT7/
[19:48] <teward> shubjero: it might be a different kernel metapackage installed, but check if linux-image-generic is installed first with apt-cache
[19:48] <teward> IIRC there's a few different linux-* metapackages
[19:48] <leftyfb> apt-cache policy linux-image-4.4.0-137-generic
[19:48] <shubjero> teward: same output for linux-image-generic.
[19:49] <teward> wonder if you're not using the 'generic' kernels then
[19:49] <shubjero> I just noticed this when i was preparing to see what packages were going to be updated, and on one system a new kernel was being proposed but on another server it was not proposing a kernel update.. even tho these are both running 16.04 with the same outdated kernel
[19:50] <teward> you could always install the linux-generic package again, IIRC it's just a metapackage referring to the *actual* image files like leftyfb indicated
[19:50] <shubjero> yeah, i mean if i explictly ask for a new kernel it will update it.. so im not in a bind or anything.. just an observation really
[19:51] <teward> shubjero: I"ve seen it when I've removed a newer kernel due to an update causing major breakage
[19:51] <leftyfb> teward: why not install the hwe kernle?
[19:51] <leftyfb> kernel*
[19:51] <teward> it then removes linux-generic among other things, but those're rare
[19:51] <teward> leftyfb: you mean to ask shubjero.
[19:51] <teward> i always *do* but i also usually am on latest LTS anyways
[19:51] <leftyfb> sorry, shubjero ^
[19:52] <teward> leftyfb: or I'm on VMs so the HWE kernel stacks are irrelevant lol
[19:52] <shubjero> dont really feel a need to use the HWE kernel really
[19:52] <shubjero> never come across any blockers yet from the non hwe kernel
[19:53] <leftyfb> shubjero: support? security? features? wouldn't have run into your initial problem?
[19:53] <shubjero> i did run a hwe kernel when i still had a system on 14.04 and was trying to use a ceph feature that wasnt supported
[19:53] <shubjero> as long as ubuntu is packaging non hwe kernels for the distro and im not hitting any blockers, why bother?
[19:53] <shubjero> security is backported
[19:56] <shubjero> GA kernels are fully supported for the lifetime of the lts
[20:43] <caseyd> hello.. I'm having some trouble with a new ubuntu server installation. I'm needing to specify an ip with the following info: address: <IP_ADDRESS> gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> subnet mask: <IP_ADDRESS> ... ubuntu wants the subnet in cidr form, I entered <IP_ADDRESS>/28, but it says "has host bits set".
[20:43] <caseyd> I'm not sure what that means.. any ideas?
[20:45] <teward> caseyd: you should probably read how subnetting works
[20:45] <caseyd> I know on windows I can just put in the mask and it works
[20:46] <teward> caseyd: http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=+<IP_ADDRESS>&mask1=28&mask2=
[20:46] <teward> as I said
[20:46] <teward> you need to learn how subnetting works to better understand the "subnet" requested field in subiquity
[20:46] <teward> caseyd: in most cases it's GatewayIP minus 1
[20:46] <teward> see the output from that subnet calculator I linked to to see where I'm getting that from
[20:47] <teward> assuming, of coursee, the gateway IP address is at the beginning of the range :P
[20:47] <teward> (depending on the subnetting it might not be in weird setups)
[20:48] <caseyd> wow, thanks.. yeah I think that was it. I've been looking for a subnet calculator like this forever
[20:48] <caseyd> thanks for the link
[20:49] <teward> caseyd: yep.  I would suggest, however, that you read up on how subnetting works.
[20:49] <teward> for example, <IP_ADDRESS>/8 the network IP is <IP_ADDRESS>/8 - the first IP address in the subnet - typically the gateway is the next IP, and then the final IP is broadcast.
[20:51] <caseyd> cool, yeah that makes sense. I have a basic understanding for normal ranges, but I've never really messed with smaller ranges than the standard <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[20:55] <teward> caseyd: I have a Python3 based library I use for network mask calculations, as well, I'd be happy to share what I've got, or even write up a simple Python equivalent of that web-based calculator for IPv4 :P
[20:55] <sdeziel> caseyd: there is ipcalc and sipcalc (ipv6) calculators on the CLI
[20:55] <teward> ^ that as well
[20:56] <teward> which does exactly what the other calculator does
[20:56] <teward> sdeziel: i should write a web frontend wrapper around this, give people a nice calculator to use...
[20:56] <teward> too bad I'm not a web developer lol
[20:57] <sdeziel> teward: duckduckgo has it covered for you: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=<IP_ADDRESS>%2F24&t=canonical&ia=answer
[20:57] <teward> ddg is evil
[20:58] <teward> nah just kidding :P
[20:58] <sdeziel> you got me wondering for a sec
[20:58] <teward> sdeziel: doesn't give me all the info i need
[20:58] <teward> like the number of usable IPs/hosts in the range, etc.
[20:58] <teward> :P
[20:58] <shubjero> ive always appreciated jodies.de/ipcalc as pasted above
[20:59] <caseyd> i like the jodies.de one a lot too
[21:00] <sdeziel> http://jodies.de/ipcalc seems to be a wrapper around the ipcalc package


[20:55] <switchflip> Hey everyone... I'm trying to get a upstart script written for a Phoenix application I've been working on. However, I'm running into some problems... anyone down to help?
[20:55] <switchflip> I can elaborate if any one is interested.


[00:57] <txwikinger> why does choqok not show any of the twitter timeline anymore?
[00:58] <DaskreeCH> txwikinger: Version?
[01:00] <txwikinger> 0.6
[01:01] <DaskreeCH> txwikinger: Get 0.6.1
[01:01] <txwikinger> where?
[01:02] <DaskreeCH> ppa I would guess
[01:03] <txwikinger> Ah
[11:24] <Mamarok> hm, plasmapkg should be in kdebase-workspace-bin, but that is installed and no plasmapkg
[11:27] <Riddell> Mamarok: it moved to kdebase-runtime
[11:28] <Riddell> to please those pesky amarok types I believe :)
[11:28] <Mamarok> oh, it still asks for kdebase-workspace-bin though
[13:59] <seele> can someone confirm bug 389961 i dont have that problem but i'm not using bleeding edge
[14:25] <ryanakca> seele: Hi, if you have time / when you get a chance, could you go over the new wikitheme and file bugs about the usability issues please? http://blog.ryanak.ca/archives/planet-ubuntu/28 has instructions for enabling the theme and where to file bugs.
[14:27] <freinhard> seele: no systemsettings in system here. btw how do i get a kmenu with lang=c ?
[14:34] <hunger> What do I need to do to enable strigi in karmic? Clicking on the button in kcontrol gets me "Service failed to initialize, most likely due to an installation problem"
[14:36] <seele> ryanakca: ok
[14:36] <seele> freinhard: not sure about lang=c
[14:43] <freinhard> strange: kmenuedit shows systemsettings in settings, kmenu does not.
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> Phonon/Global still isn't found with the latest Qt :(
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> /tmp/buildd/ktorrent-3.2.2+dfsg.2/plugins/mediaplayer/mediaplayer.cpp:24:25: error: Phonon/Global: No such file or directory
[15:56] <Riddell> hum
[15:56] <Riddell> it may need a .install file edited
[16:03] <ryanakca> seele: Great, thanks a lot :)
[16:08] <ryanakca> What was the intrepid and hardy equivalent of the qt4-qmake package?
[16:15] <Riddell> packages.ubuntu.com will know
[16:15] <Riddell> one of the dev packages
[16:16] <ryanakca> Riddell: thanks
[16:21] <hunger> ryanakca: IIRC it is called qt4-dev-tools.
[16:22] <ryanakca> hunger: libqt4-dev according to packages.u.c ... "/usr/share/qt4/bin/qmake  libqt4-dev"
[16:23] <hunger> ryanakca: Ah, good to know. I always install the dev-tools and afterwards it works:-) The miracle of dependencies at work I guess:-)
[18:10] <Lure> can somebody beside Riddell approve me in kubuntu-ppa team?
[18:10]  * Lure thought that all kubuntu members have access there
[18:12] <Lure> apachelogger, JontheEchidna: ^^^
[18:13]  * Lure found more administrators of kubuntu-ppa team ;-)
[18:17] <Riddell> Lure: approved!
[18:17] <Riddell> what are you doing anyway?
[18:17] <Riddell> people; I'm away for the next week with not much internet access, enjoy yourself
[18:18] <Riddell> ScottK: sorry I didn't get time to review those specs
[18:19] <apachelogger> huh?
[18:19] <apachelogger> Lure: like what team?
[18:20] <apachelogger> oh
[18:20] <apachelogger> you
[18:20] <apachelogger> Lure: you are not a ninja?
[18:30] <Lure> apachelogger: no - I do not mess with main kde packages, mostly digikam/kipi
[18:30] <apachelogger> I see
[18:30] <Lure> I need to backport digikam to experiemental as it does not show photos due to marble binary incompatibility
[18:31] <Lure> apachelogger: thanks for approving me
[18:37] <apachelogger> Lure: Riddell approved
[18:37] <apachelogger> I declined a couple of people :P
[18:37] <Lure> apachelogger: oh, IU thought Riddell is out for some time
[18:37] <Lure> Riddell: thanks
[18:41]  * Lure notices that we need MIR for liblqr (LiquidRescale) as digikam in karmic is dep-wait
[18:47] <apachelogger> at some point digikam will have a larger dep tree than kdelibs :P
[18:49] <Lure> apachelogger: yes, probably about the time we should throw it back to universe ;-)
[18:56] <smarter> uh oh
[18:56] <smarter>
[18:56] <smarter> Atteint http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release.gpg
[18:56] <smarter> gwenview: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libnepomuk.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7Soprano4NodeC1ERKNS_12LiteralValueE
[18:56] <smarter> (damn copy-paste)
[18:56] <smarter> ^ is that known?
[18:57] <smarter> nepomuk needs a rebuild I guess
[19:38] <neversfelde> can we copy a choqok backport to the backports ppa? 0.6.1 is needed by twitter users and in jaunty is only 0.6.0 atm.
[19:39] <neversfelde> or can I upload there by myself?
[19:59] <apachelogger> neversfelde: why not backport to backports?
[20:00] <neversfelde> apachelogger: there is a backport request, but the backport team seems to be busy these days
[20:00] <apachelogger> poke ScottK or NCommander
[20:01] <neversfelde> it is bug 387041
[20:01] <neversfelde> and isn't this ppa the right place for proposed backports that need testing?
[20:19] <apachelogger> neversfelde: kinda
[20:52] <apachelogger> hm, apparently one can't do webdesign without a macbook
[20:52] <apachelogger> I dunno why, but so I have just been told :S
[22:11] <ScottK> neversfelde and apachelogger: choqok backport ack'ed.
[22:12] <neversfelde> ScottK: nice :). Thank you.
[22:12] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Feel like uploading libqinfinity to Kubuntu? dget http://packages.ryanak.ca/ubuntu/pool/main/libq/libqinfinity/libqinfinity_1.0~beta3-0ubuntu1.dsc
[22:23]  * ScottK smiles at http://effiejayx.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/fathers-day-gift/
[22:27] <neversfelde> well, the baby is still on the dark side^^
[22:28] <neversfelde> it should get a Luke or something like that
[22:30] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you testbuilt on karmic I assume?
[22:31] <apachelogger> ryanakca: I think you should add a seperate changelog entry stating that this is a cross-upload :D
[22:33] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Of course, would you like to look over the buildlogs?
[22:33]  * ryanakca adds the entry
[22:34] <apachelogger> nah, I think I trust you :D
[22:34] <apachelogger> good otherwise
[22:41] <ryanakca> apachelogger: you can dget again
[22:41]  * ryanakca rebuilds his packages to reflect the new changelog
[22:42] <apachelogger> lol
[22:42] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I am listening to an old radio amarok recording
[22:43] <apachelogger> which appears to have been quite awful
[22:43] <apachelogger> though I have kind of a radio voice :P
[22:43] <Nightrose> haha
[22:44] <apachelogger> rofl
[22:45] <apachelogger> Nightrose: we were quite hilarious really :D
[22:45] <Nightrose> ;-)
[22:46] <apachelogger> ryanakca: that changelog entry is not what you meant
[22:46] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you keep the origianl one like it is in $debian
[22:47] <apachelogger> and add a new one with the ubuntu1 and add that remark
[22:47] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ah, ok. New one is 1ubuntu1 or 0ubuntu1 ? The latter?
[22:49] <apachelogger> 0ubuntu1
[22:49] <apachelogger> 1 is not yet in debian
[22:51] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Fixed
[22:53] <apachelogger> Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com):
[22:54] <ryanakca> apachelogger: awesomeness, thanks :)
[22:55]  * ryanakca heads back to his math review, cheers
[22:57] <neversfelde> will we get a infinote Server?
[23:07] <lex79> launchpad bug 390069
[23:38] <Mamarok> gah, first X crash on KDE 4.2.90 since I have it installed
[23:39] <Mamarok> I hate it when my keyboard doesn't work anymore
[23:39] <Tm_T> I ate the batteries
[23:42]  * Mamarok larts Tm_T
[23:43] <Tm_T> you might not want to do that ];=


[00:01] <sailerboy> why won't watch tv work :(
[00:02] <sailerboy> mrand, tgm4883 does this make sense to you? pastebin.com/Y01KnLxw
[00:03] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] cabin - Pastebin.com
[00:07] <qwebirc81323> tgm4883: good work, upgrade mythbuntu 10.10 now works!!!!!
[00:08] <qwebirc81323> tgm4883: What was it?
[00:45] <tgm4883> qwebirc81323, I forced a new build
[00:49] <qwebirc81323> tgm4883: great's! good assistance!!! i'm happy! Good night (italy time is 01:49 am!!!!)
[01:49] <Out_Cold> wow not too many people in here.. I have burned an image, twice now at different speeds and keep getting stuck on the install..
[01:52] <Out_Cold> is there checksums?? I am not seeing any on the mthbuntu.org site?
[02:05] <tgm4883> Out_Cold, http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/mythbuntu-11.04-MD5SUMS
[02:05] <tgm4883> under "Download Troubleshooting"
[02:09] <Out_Cold> tgm4883: thanks ;)
[02:09] <Out_Cold> i'll run the check, but i don't think that is my problem...
[02:09] <Out_Cold> i may just try a usb install.. might do me more justice
[02:17] <Out_Cold> ya, the hashes are the same :( I wonder if it's my install setup that's making it fail..
[12:27] <adubz> dhclient does not work in mythbuntu 11.04
[12:27] <adubz> anyone have a solution
[12:27] <z013dsf> I listen to a number of podcasts. I would like to mythtv to subscribe to the podcasts and the server then sent out a rss feed. Is that possible
[17:40] <sailerboy> !mysql
[17:40] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, perform the following to reconfigure it: [1] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.1 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it later)  [2] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [3] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[22:58] <qwebirc73387> hi chat
[23:00] <qwebirc73387> i buy one Technisat Airstar 2 tv pci (DVB-T). Is a good card? know problem?


[22:28] <akgraner> Beta 2 announcement is out
[22:29] <akgraner> I have to leave atm  for my son's band concert then head to the airport pick up Pete - if it's not up when I get back I'll post it - but if someone can snag it before the for the fridge that would rock


[20:25] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Added threadirqs to the lowlatency boot, and it will work so long as lowlatency-settings is installed. There's really no disadvantage to it.