[11:12] <intelikey> |lostbyte| nope.  inittab has nothing (dirrectly) to do with whether kdm starts or not at boot time.
[11:12] <Jack1> hi guys
[11:12] <macd> intelikey: have you played with the initrg parrallel loading of services yet?
[11:12] <StupidMe> The last thing I did was commenting out some stuff in the Xorg.conf
[11:12] <Jack1> how could i install a splashscreen for kontact eg?
[11:12] <intelikey> macd initrg ?
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, You mean crash ?
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> StupidMe, ctrl + Alt + F1
[11:13] <macd> its a initng replacement to load multiple things at once duroing boot rather than loading one then another then another and so on
[11:13] <StupidMe> If I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F1 at that time, would that bring me to a terminal?
[11:13] <macd> StupidMe: yes.
[11:13] <sonotos> i have a little problem with the language in some kde apps.  Most of my apps are in german , but some stay english despite off installing kde-i18n-de and koffice-i18n-de. The apps are kdevelop und quanta. did i forgot a package?
[11:13] <Healot> StupidMe: it will make a call to your nearest McD
[11:14] <macd> sonotos: Id uninstall the other locales, if you havent already done so.
[11:14] <macd> that or those apps were compiled against ONLY the other locales
[11:14] <macd> its a glibc thing ya know
[11:15] <sonotos> i have just the german locals
[11:15] <StupidMe> That was a joke I didn't quite get, Healot
[11:15] <macd> sonotos: hmm, then Im fresh out of ideas ;) sorry.
[11:15] <intelikey> macd no i haven't.   but i only load about five things so it wouldn't help me any.     sounds a lot like they added  &  on the link calls.  /etc/init.d/rc   saying   for this in ../rc`runlevel`.d ;do $this & ;done
[11:16] <flaccid> how can you turn acpi off in the kernel so no acpi support at all on boot
[11:16] <sonotos> ok np, thx
[11:16] <Healot> add the line "acpi=off" to your kernel entry in menu.lst
[11:16] <macd> intelikey: pretty close to that yes
[11:16] <macd> but you really only load 5 things :P
[11:16] <intelikey> yeah
[11:17] <macd> so your init.d only has 5 things?
[11:17] <macd> rather rc2.d etc only has 5?
[11:17] <intelikey> the uncompressing linux line is only about half way up my screen when the boot prompt appears
[11:17] <macd> nice
[11:17] <flaccid> ok cool thanks Healot
[11:17] <flaccid> there is a bug/issue with phonenix bios and this kernel
[11:17] <flaccid> it sux..
[11:17] <macd> Ive gotten to about 5 or 7 seconds from post now
[11:18] <macd> and Im sitting at kdm login
[11:18] <flaccid> i'v hardwired the cpu and case fans
[11:18] <macd> oh wow
[11:18] <wolfmanz> i macd xmms is got it self setup to be first in line on nearly every file type how do i undo that?
[11:18] <macd> not that its a bad idea, cause it doesnt matter, but the smart cpu fan is usualy a good idea, quieter etc etc
[11:18] <macd> wolfmanz: file associations.
[11:19] <flaccid> smart cpu fan?
[11:19] <macd> yes they speed up and slow down according to cpu temps, handled by acpi _I think_
[11:19] <intelikey> flaccid only runs when the temp goes up
[11:19] <flaccid> yeah but thats with acpi or apm or whatever, can't do it coz of the phoneix bios issue
[11:20] <flaccid> ibm are shite as well..
[11:20] <intelikey> or in some cases don't run even when the temp goes up...  hehhe
[11:21] <flaccid> this box is in a corner so noise aint an issue. it used to be a win2k server
[11:21] <flaccid> converted it to kubuntu and have had these issues
[11:21] <flaccid> like its taking so long to do stuff on it while this dpkg is doing stuff
[11:21] <macd> theres no bios patch? or upgrade?
[11:21] <flaccid> its taking nearly 2mins to open menu.lst in joe
[11:21] <flaccid> there is but i don't know how to implement it
[11:21] <intelikey> i've often wondered if i could spray some kind of sealent on this board that would water proof it so i could use this cooling chip.  i could sub-zero my cpu.....
[11:22] <wolfmanz> macd i cant remove it should i just uninstall xmms?
[11:22] <macd> if you want, but I feel thats gonna cause errors like youve never seen before.
[11:22] <intelikey> wolfmanz that should work
[11:22] <wolfmanz> lol
[11:22] <intelikey> macd i don't think so
[11:23] <macd> Im thinking hell get cannot load xmms errors
[11:23] <intelikey> it should remove it from the prefered apps listings
[11:23] <macd> ehh true true
[11:24] <intelikey> i saw amerok one time,  and uninstalled it to keep from seeing it again....
[11:24] <macd> so tell me intelikey how is it in houston having all our old criminals there?
[11:24] <intelikey> macd i'd have to call someone in that state to answer that....
[11:24] <flaccid> macd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1243748
[11:24] <wolfmanz> lol well that didnt work now it cant find xmms when i hit the drive icon lol
[11:25] <intelikey> wolfmanz reset x
[11:25] <flaccid> and the patch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:25] <wolfmanz> how do i reset it?
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Thanks guys
[11:25] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:25] <intelikey> or log out
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Note to self, edit one thing at a time...
[11:26] <flaccid> macd: the actual patch<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:26] <macd> flaccid: and youve tried that?
[11:26] <flaccid> i don't know how to do this patch
[11:26] <macd> ahh
[11:26] <flaccid> well i'm doing the acpi=off now
[11:26] <macd> yeah I suggest you read the docs that deal with kernel recompile and building debs on ubuntu site.
[11:26] <flaccid> see that form link, looks like that guy had the 'overheating' as well
[11:26] <macd> yes passing that to grub should help
[11:26] <wolfmanz> ok the reset didnt fix it still get the error
[11:26] <flaccid> forum link i mean
[11:27] <macd> yeah hardwiring your fan prevented that from happening
[11:27] <flaccid> well i thought it did, but its still similar symptoms
[11:27] <macd> I actualy fried a ibm laptop with the early days of lm_sensors
[11:27] <flaccid> maybe it f*ked the cpu
[11:27] <macd> flaccid: it could be running very hot, that would cause speed issues
[11:28] <flaccid> macd: yeah but its not running hot i checked. i don't know how i can probe to get cpu/mb temp...
[11:28] <helpmeee> I have a lagging sound issue in quake3.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:28] <flaccid> can i just put acpi=off anywhere in menu.lst?
[11:28] <intelikey> use oss maybe
[11:28] <macd> flaccid: go read the sensorsd or lm_sensors howto
[11:29] <macd> flaccid: wherever the other kernel options are in grub, yes.
[11:29] <helpmeee> noone?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> flaccid: Reboot and go to the BIOS, those are the most accurate values... Although it will be cooled down a little once you get there
[11:29] <macd> so its the one that sais default=0 then youd put it on that line.
[11:29] <macd> need a example flaccid?
[11:30] <flaccid> MilhousePunkRock: helps if the bios has cpu temp
[11:30] <flaccid> yeah i think i need an example
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Most modern BIOSes have...
[11:30] <macd> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash  acpi=off
[11:30] <macd> that should shed some light
[11:30] <flaccid> i wouldn't call phoenix a modern bios :)
[11:30] <diego_cl> which is the easiest way to get mp3 support ?!!?
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !mp3
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:31] <flaccid> ah its kernel boot option , i get it
[11:31] <intelikey> diego_cl prolly install vlc
[11:31] <intelikey> !vlc
[11:31] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:31] <diego_cl> hmm goooood
[11:31] <intelikey> what the hell is that ?
[11:32] <diego_cl> and how i install vlc ?
[11:32] <diego_cl> *how do i install vlc
[11:32] <intelikey> diego_cl sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:33] <diego_cl> GNU is fuckin amazig
[11:33] <wolfmanz> so anyone got any ideas on how to reverse this xmms stuff?
[11:33] <diego_cl> why not ?
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> It's rather rudimentary when it comes to audio
[11:33] <intelikey> that list of crap up there that ubuotu puked out   used to be a good info node on vlc
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> At least from my experience
[11:33] <macd> diego_cl: 'sudo apt-get install vlc' in console will install vlc.
[11:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Amarok is fine for mp3, you just need the codecs AFAIK
[11:33] <flaccid> heh still installing kernel..
[11:34] <diego_cl> u say that other codecs sounds better ?
[11:34] <macd> to bad amarok dies.
[11:34] <flaccid> and i'm going to have to hook a monitor to it
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Does it, macd?
[11:34] <macd> it does here
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure an mp3 sounds alike no matter what player you use, diego_cl
[11:34] <macd> of course I use media on a NFS share and store my catalog on a mysql server on the lan.
[11:34] <macd> so the player doesnt get to use anything local
[11:35] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock you can use the codecs with vlc also but i've never needed them.     and amerok is a winamp wanabe  so i don't like it.
[11:35] <macd> it just stops playing responding and then I have to kill the PID
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I determine what screwed up my Xorg.conf earlier?
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> lol intelikey
[11:35] <macd> MilhousePunkRock: try looking at your /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <macd> then grep is for EE
[11:35] <diego_cl> wich is the way to uninstall programs?
[11:36] <macd>  so 'cat /var/log/X11/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'
[11:36] <intelikey> apt-get remove <blah>
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Easiest is probably in adept, diego_cl
[11:36] <diego_cl> hahaha
[11:36] <macd> unless you cant type that fast :P
[11:36] <macd> then CLI is my tool of choice.
[11:37] <Healot> you will adapt to adept in no time
[11:37] <intelikey> Healot it must be something you assemalated.....
[11:38] <intelikey> !kpackage
[11:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about kpackage - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:38] <intelikey> !info kpackage
[11:38] <ubotu> kpackage: KDE package management tool. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 670 kB, installed size 1356 kB
[11:39] <diego_cl> kpackage is for installing packages without the konsole ?
[11:40] <intelikey> !adept
[11:40] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:40] <intelikey> !info adept
[11:40] <ubotu> adept: package manager for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 3752 kB, installed size 10988 kB
[11:40] <Healot> kde prefer adept nowadays
[11:40] <intelikey> !info synaptic
[11:40] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.57.8ubuntu11 (dapper), package size 1011 kB, installed size 5384 kB
[11:40] <intelikey> !synaptic
[11:40] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:41] <intelikey> and they are all just frontends to dpkg
[11:41] <intelikey> so i just use dpkg.    specally sense i broke apt...
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Front ends to apt which is a front end to dpkg
[11:43] <noaXess> .. have a irc question.. how can i search over command a special irc channel on freenode?
[11:43] <intelikey> i guess i could remove apt  seeing it's broke anyway.   but i like apt-cache.
[11:44] <intelikey> decisions decisions....
[11:45] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I restart X?
[11:45] <noaXess> MilhousePunkRock, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Why not just reinstall apt with dpkg ?
[11:46] <Healot> you can either pop a virtual terminal then type "/etc/init.d/(k/g)dm" or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[11:46] <aegeanlinux> I agree, my Dad thinks that it is funny too.
[11:46] <aegeanlinux> woops, wrong room
[11:47] <aegeanlinux>  /disregard
 hahaha </sarcasm>
[11:47] <intelikey> h3sp4wn that wont fix it.
[11:47] <intelikey> it's the dep's that are hosed.
[11:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Thx noaXess
[11:48] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: By using dpkg --force ?
[11:48] <intelikey> yeah,  apt keeps wanting to install perl-base
[11:48] <intelikey> and i'm not going to let it.
[11:49] <intelikey> there is no perl  nor python on this system now.  and that's the way it will stay.
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I always get some error messages when I start a GUI application (e.g. Kate) from the command line
[11:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I googled the cause, some Wacom tablet drivers in the xorg.conf
[11:50] <intelikey> so apt is borked
[11:50] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: apt uses perl for some stuff
[11:50] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock so remove it.
[11:51] <intelikey> h3sp4wn not on this box it don't    :)
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> I did that, but then X didn't work no more, if you remember StupidMe from some minutes ago
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Hence why it is not working
[11:51] <intelikey> and your point is ???
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> is there a "xserver.conf" or something?
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: There is no point whatsoever in what you are doing
[11:52] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock no.  just the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:53] <intelikey> h3sp4wn sure there is.   perl commands don't run here.
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> The error is this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> And google gives me the following
[11:53] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock yeah i know the problem.
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212025
[11:54] <intelikey> you need to comment out or remove the listing for the "inputdevice" that describs wacom
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> It's not that Kate or whatever won't start, but I get the same when I try to start wpa_gui, and that is _not_ working
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> !info wpagui
[11:55] <ubotu> wpagui: GUI for wpa_supplicant. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 78 kB, installed size 204 kB
[11:57] <aegeanlinux> !info kdebase
[11:57] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 76 kB
[11:57] <markc> intelikey> did you say you don't have perl or python installed ?
[11:57] <intelikey> correct
[11:58] <markc> intelikey> I'd also like to do this... is there anything special you've done to block them ?
[11:58] <intelikey> yep.  it's a pain.   unless you like the console and doing things by hand don't try it.
[11:59] <markc> intelikey> I love the console :)
[11:59] <markc> intelikey> I also happen to like kde and most fo that requires python, and probably perl, let alone other packages
[11:59] <intelikey> you can sudo apt-get remove --purge perl-base      and tell it 'Yes, do as I say!'
[12:00] <intelikey> the there are just a very few remaining perl libs and a python module or two...   dpkg -l | grep blah to find them.
[12:00] <intelikey> then there ^
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to restart X _and_ save the current session?
[12:02] <intelikey> log out. then reset X
[12:02] <markc> intelikey> I've tried, or asttempted, to do that a couple of times in the past but the list of packages that are to be removed is too extensive... so I've ended up just trimming down perl/python support packages
[12:02] <intelikey> markc yeah it even takes useradd and passwd with it.
[12:03] <markc> intelikey> so you wear that and live without base packages like that ?
[12:04] <intelikey> sure.    i have ran a system with no "login" access of any kind...
[12:04] <markc> intelikey> I do without useradd but passwd is pretty basic... hmm, maybe not as I use virtual users in MySQL
[12:05] <markc> markc> yeah, same here, just root and one sinlge non-root user called admin
[12:05] <markc> oops
[12:05] <markc> intelikey> once they are set up I guess I could do without either of them... but I'm not sure about all the kde packages that would get removed
[12:07] <markc> intelikey> so what do you rely on for scripting, just bash ?
[12:07] <intelikey> with no getty/mingetty you have to setup init to open a console for you but that's not an issue as for just removing perl and python.    and yeah perl will take x with it.  i don'k know a way around that yet.    but when you can web browse email audio/vidio all from the console, why use X ?
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> And now on the WPA-PSK encryption... Is someone familiar with that?
[12:08] <intelikey> yeah bash   and the apps like cut grep less fold and so forth
[12:08] <hari> hello friends :), whenever i insert a cd into my drive a cd icon appears on the desktop with the name "Blank CD-R" when i double click it says "Malformed URL", I am sure that the cd is not blank. what may be the problem?
[12:09] <markc> intelikey> cool, I didn't think there'd be anyone else around as crazy as me :) most folks seem to use perl/python so any suggestion otherwise is generally ridiculed.. with a vengeance!
[12:10] <intelikey> yeah
[12:11] <flaccid> rightio i rebooted with acpi off, but it still comes up in dmesg
[12:11] <intelikey> and that's really the only thing i have against python.  the fact that almost everything *ubuntu specific is writen in python,   so i dislike it just on general principal.
[12:11] <flaccid> how can i confirm if acpi off or on?
[12:12] <intelikey> flaccid i'd think if there is a process like " 22 ?        S<     0:00 [kacpid] "  then it's on....
[12:13] <intelikey> ps -A x
[12:13] <flaccid> yeah it looks like its on
[12:13] <intelikey> ps -A x | grep acpi
[12:13] <flaccid> wonder why
[12:13] <flaccid> i used kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash acpi=off
[12:14] <intelikey> the initramfs.img prolly started it for you.
[12:14] <markc> intelikey> yeah... gentoo is worse otherwise I would be using it, and was up till recently... yesterday I tried archlinux for exactly this reason, to get away from perl/python dependencies as its pacman package manager is so sensibly C based
[12:14] <flaccid> hectic! dang what to do now
[12:14] <flaccid> its still slow after the reboot
[12:15] <intelikey> markc i was a bit surprised that hoary's version of apt doesn't depend on either.
[12:15] <intelikey> and works without them....
[12:16] <markc> intelikey> really!... and then they went and blew it :)
[12:16] <intelikey> yup
[12:17] <markc> intelikey> seeing that da man is a pythoin head there is no hope for *buntu, in this regard... great on a lot of other levels though
[12:17] <flaccid> so how can i ensure that acpi isn't loaded?
[12:17] <cox377> I;m trying to set up a remote printer under kubuntu
[12:17] <cox377> "Printer" isnt undr system settings
[12:17] <cox377> anyone got any ideas?
[12:17] <cox377> !printer
[12:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:20] <intelikey> markc; yeah.   imo they did; as you say "blew it".   and the dapper livecd installer is as brain dead as they come.     i'm like 'why not just have it dd /dev/cdrom /dev/hda  and be done with it.....'    i mean it give a total of what three options language, timezone(and that one is a joke), and partition(another joke. and a bad one at that).
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone confirm that the WPA passphrase on Linux is not allowed to have a &symbol in it?
[12:21] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock with or without \  ?
[12:21] <MilhousePunkRock> there is no \ in it, but the 3rd character is a &
[12:22] <diego_cl> what happends in kubuntu when pressing control+alt+delete  ?!?!?!
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> And when I do "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <passphrase
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> >
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> it only exepts the chars before the &
[12:22] <intelikey> the reason i asked,  you might not be able to type in & but \& might work.... i really can't say.
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I am not typing 63 weirdo characters, I copied and pasted it
[12:23] <intelikey> yeah if it's on the command line,  you have to comment it   \&
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, let me try that
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> no luck
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> so I have to take that & out?
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Any other characters that might give me trouble?
[12:25] <markc> intelikey> even just rsync --exclude=/proc etc the live system, it's already worked out the hardware to run on
[12:25] <intelikey> without the \ the shell reads & as a newline  or at least a new command.    i.e.   sleep 10 & echo sleeping ;fg
[12:25] <MilhousePunkRock> no way to tell the shell to take the key "as is"?
[12:26] <MilhousePunkRock> I'd rather use wpa_gui anyway, but that is not working
[12:26] <diego_cl> HOW CAN I SHARE MI INTERNET CONNECTION LIKE I DO WHEN BOOTING ON WINDOWS XP ? !!? !? ! !? !?
[12:26] <intelikey> markc yeah  but i kinda like more options,  not a "save me from myself" approach.      'if you make it fool-proof, they'll just make a better fool'
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> No need to shout, diego_cl
[12:27] <diego_cl> sorry
[12:27] <diego_cl> can you help me ?
[12:27] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock if it cant ask for the passwork then prolly not.   you already tried the propper way.  \&
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: When I make it \&, it complains the key has to be 8..63 characters
[12:28] <intelikey> quote it ?
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> passwork (password I assume) as in PSK?
[12:28] <intelikey> yeah typo
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> the key itself contains quotes, i doubt that will work
[12:29] <intelikey> ummm hmm
[12:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Where do you live, intelikey? I don't want you to come over here and break into my maximum security WLAN because you know the key
[12:29] <intelikey> single or dubble quotes ?
[12:29] <MilhousePunkRock> "
[12:30] <intelikey> single quote it
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Will try
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> ' or  or ` ?
[12:30] <intelikey> yeah
[12:30] <intelikey> '
[12:30] <intelikey> the othere is executable
[12:31] <intelikey> echo `uname -r`
[12:31] <intelikey> same as
[12:31] <intelikey> uname -r
[12:31] <MilhousePunkRock> rgr
[12:31] <intelikey> echo 'uname -r'
[12:31] <intelikey> prints out  uname -r
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> It says "No such file or directory" now
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> And: reading passphrase from stdin
[12:33] <intelikey> you did use ' ?
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> i used `
[12:33] <intelikey> please see above ^
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> so i have to use '
[12:34] <intelikey> yes
[12:34] <intelikey> assuming there are none of them in the code
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> It still says "reading passphrase from stdin"
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> since it says "no such file or directory"
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> what about making the shell read the pass from .txt file I have it in?
[12:36] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock just a thought.   if possable (man for a switch)
[12:36] <intelikey> that's what i was typing  ^
[12:37] <intelikey> password file.  and let it cat that.
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> i have it on my usb-thumbdrive as wpa.txt
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> how do i redirect it there?
[12:37] <intelikey> man wpa ?
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> that would be system:/media/sda1/wpa.txt
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> I am already trying to follow a HowTo
[12:38] <intelikey> yes that's probably the mountpoint  assuming it's in the root dir of that drive.
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> It tells me to do "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <key>
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> it is
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> goddamn, the heat here is really getting to my head...
[12:39] <intelikey> yeah it's hot.
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo is here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/VerschlCsselung
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> It's in German though
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> "http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/VerschlCsselung"
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> lol it won't let me write the URL
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Why did they have to use a "" in the adress anyway
[12:42] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock i'm going to pass you off to the next ratchet jawed geek...  gooday and peace.
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Noooooooo, intelikey
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Have a nice day anyway...
[12:42] <intelikey> yeah.  you too
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> So who's gonna volunteer to be the "next ratchet jawed geek"?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Are you trying to use wpa_supplicant with the passphrase on a usbdrive ?
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Until now I am trying to execute "sudo wpa_passphrase <ESSID> <key>
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> And you are using wpa ?
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> the problem is, the 3rd character of the key is a & which makes the shell believe it ends there
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> yes
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> and you have tried \&
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> yes, didn't work
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> i also tried '63weirdcharacters' and `63weirdcharacters`
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> we came up with the idea to make wpa_passphrase read the key from the txt-file
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> but intelikey left...
[12:47] <larson9999> can you use hex instead of ascii?
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> If you use 'passphrase' it works for me
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> wpa_passphrase myssid 'pass&phrase' works
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> Do you really want it on the thumb drive the key ?
[12:48] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo I am following says: sudo wpa_passphrase <SSID> <WPA key>
[12:48] <MilhousePunkRock> I assumed that WPA key would have to be the 63chars
[12:49] <h3sp4wn> The 63 chars are generated from any passphrase you chose
[12:49] <MilhousePunkRock> I have it there cause I set up the WPA on my girlfriend's WinXP notebook first, and I was too lazy to type in that long key blindly
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> c47b0aad72ad1c39323f8b4da6840fa3c7e3ba9598c6932c0c7b95dbb9c13fad (all the wpa keys once generated look like that)
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I might have gotten something wrong here then
[12:50] <MilhousePunkRock> That looks like a HEX key to me...
[12:50] <h3sp4wn> That is generated from the passphrase
[12:50] <Reliant> I'm getting an odd sound problem. Some of my MP3s in Amarok play fine, and some won't play at all (Amarok just sits there doing nothing). Also, Google video works fine, but Youtube produces no sound. I don't know when the former problem started happening, but the latter problem just started last night
[12:51] <MilhousePunkRock> so WPA key is _not_ the key I entered into the router and the WinXP laptop?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> psk="test&ssidbghdfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" (that is the one you entered on the laptop)
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> psk=c47b0aad72ad1c39323f8b4da6840fa3c7e3ba9598c6932c0c7b95dbb9c13fad
[12:52] <h3sp4wn> (one is in hex one in ascii I think)
[12:54] <jknotzke> Hi
[12:54] <jknotzke> is there an FAQ on installing firefox ?
[12:54] <jknotzke> i can't get it to install
[12:54] <jknotzke> and why didn't kubuntu come with firefox already installed ?
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> The easiest way is probably adept, jknotzke
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: if psk="quoted" then that is the key you put in on the router
[12:55] <jknotzke> firefox is greyed out in adept
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: if psk=hexstring then that is psk="quoted" converted to hex with wpa_passphrase
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> The HowTo I am following says: sudo wpa_passphrase <SSID> <WPA key> to create a encrypted psk
[12:56] <shampoo> and trying to install from mozilla's binaries puts me into dependancy hell
[12:56] <shampoo> firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> did you try "apt-get intall firefox" shampoo?
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> install that is, of course
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> shampoo: Just use the binarys and untar them into /opt
[12:57] <shampoo> neither works
[12:57] <shampoo> when I dump into opt
[12:58] <shampoo> i get the dependancy error
[12:58] <shampoo> when installing from apt-get
[12:58] <shampoo> I get another dependency error
[12:58] <flaccid> apt-get install jessica-alba
[12:58] <shampoo> firefox: Depends: libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0) but it is not installable
[12:58] <flaccid> damn i need to update my sources list
[12:58] <shampoo> Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I just checked, the wpa_supplicant.conf is empty so far
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I just checked, the wpa_supplicant.conf is empty so far, h3sp4wn
[01:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Can't I just put the stuff in there manually and skip that step with wpa_passphrase, h3sp4wn?
[01:03] <Reliant> wee, found the post on the ubuntu forums that fixed my youtube sound :)
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> psk="yourfulllong key"
[01:04] <KDEfanboy> when i move the mouse over a link in konqueror, rather than a hand icon showing the link is clickable, a text cursor icon appears over the link instead. anyone know what is going on?
[01:04] <helpmeee> in amaroK my mp3 files dont play :( how do I get them to?
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Have you tried wpagui ?
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa_gui does not work, it always tries to ping something with a timeout
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> There are four different approaches in the HowTo, I will try wifi-radar now
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> and you have started wpa_supplicant (i.e with sudo wpa_supplicant -B)
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> probably not
[01:06] <KDEfanboy> !mp3
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[01:07] <h3sp4wn> I think it has to be running for wpa_gui to work
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> the wpa_supplicant.conf is the key problem
[01:08] <Tommy2k4> why i try to open kate from konsole it says couldnt connect to X server
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> either it's not there, or it doesn't like that it's empty
[01:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Tommy2k4: Try commenting out all the WACOM crap in your xorg.conf
[01:10] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (is the best documentation on setting up wpa_supplicant - from /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I did "sudo touch /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf", but it's not there
[01:11] <Tommy2k4> thats gonna be difficult without kate :(
[01:11] <ubuntu> :D
[01:12] <ubuntu> i'm a noob :P
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You don't need to have a wpa_supplicant.conf (if you set it up from /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> I did : sudo wpa_supplicant -Dmadwifi -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> And nothing much is happening
[01:12] <cox377> i have a canon ip1000 printer hooked upto a windows machine as i cant get it running on my kubuntu machine without a lot of hassle. will i have the same driver problems if it's local or network?
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Now try wpa_gui
[01:13] <ubuntu> i want to install xp skin
[01:13] <ubuntu> how can i do it ?
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I will give you something to put into /etc/network/interfaces to try
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> That reminds me that there is still the old stuff from the WEP encryption in there, h3sp4wn
[01:15] <MilhousePunkRock> Can that be the root of all evil?
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> There are many roots of evil
[01:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Girls are the root of all evil, I can prove that...
[01:16] <cox377> .lol
[01:17] <MilhousePunkRock> http://www.geocities.com/enematic5000/girls.html
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> http://pastebin.ca/93331
[01:17] <robewald> hi
[01:18] <tristan_> hi
[01:18] <robewald> skim is makeing me pulling my hair out :-(
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: It could also be madwifi will choke on that key
[01:18] <tristan_> Can anyone tell me how to change an icon at the top left of a window?
[01:18] <tristan_> robewald, same here. Cannot type Japanese....
[01:19] <robewald> yes, so what remedy do I have?
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: The problem is the key is not in HEX
[01:19] <tristan_> robewald, I don't have any unfortunately
[01:19] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If it is quoted it doesn't need to be in hex
[01:19] <MilhousePunkRock> It's definetely ASCII, it contains & and @ and ^ and what not
[01:20] <RogueX> Good Morning everyone!
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey RogueX
[01:20] <wishu> helo!
[01:20] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock:
[01:20] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Hello :)
[01:21] <wishu> someone thik how desinstall openoffice?
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I put it in there, h3sp4wn, what now?
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: ifup ath0
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo ifup ath0
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> wishu, did you try removing it in adept?
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo wpa_cli
[01:21] <RogueX> So to start things off who can tell me how to turn off showing people coming and going in Konverstion?
[01:21] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock:  yes but packets are installed and I don't put to remove
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure it's up already, the LEDs are blinking (is that an english word)
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (If you have put those lines in) then that will start up wpa_supplicant properly
[01:23] <tristan_> Can anyone tell me how to change an icon at the top left of a window?
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: then you can tell whether its just the keys in wrong or what with wpa_cli
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ifup: Interface is already configured
[01:23] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: the packets are this: -help-en-us, -l10n-common, -l10-en-gb, -l10n-en-us, -l10n-en-za and -thesaurus-en-un
[01:23] <RogueX> So to start things off who can tell me how to turn off showing people coming and going in Konverstion?
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[01:23] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: this packets if I put to remove adept says 'the packets doesn't remove because other packages are broken'
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I can't help you there, wishu, sorry
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn:
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock>     invalid argument "J~".
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> it still does not like the & symbol in the key it seems
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> my current one? roger that
[01:25] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: nothing i'm just finding at google this, you wish me every succes :P
[01:25] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: where are you located?
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Yep I will check what the problems are / may be
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93345
[01:28] <helpmeee> why is it that amaroK will play mp3s that it has scanned itself through the folders I added?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: 52 23' N 9 59' E
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: So you haven't actually changed anything -
[01:29] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: ok I will have to figure that one out!  LOL
[01:29] <wishu> someone know the sources to download 'superkaramba'?
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> not yet, I tried just putting the 63charWPAkey in there, although I kinda new that wouldnt be much of a help...
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> wishu: AFAIK that comes with Kubuntu by default
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> RogueX: Nothern part of Germany that is
[01:31] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: Cool!  USA here
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I figured that RogueX, since you said "Good morning when you joined"
[01:31] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: sorry u-u' i don't look the packages that i don't install xD
[01:31] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: thank you ^^
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> You're welcome, wishu... I am surprised that I can help with some minor stuff already
[01:32] <RogueX> MilhousePunkRock: got that did you.. :)
[01:33] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: jejeje one think, do you read books to learn linux?
[01:33] <MilhousePunkRock> No... I hate books, good books are made into movies anyway...
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Reading forums can be very educative, besides that I always got the help I needed here in this very IRC channel
[01:34] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: ah ok
[01:35] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: i'm noob with linux in adittion i'm spanish and I don't know more english to speak very well
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure there is a spanish kubuntu channel to
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> too*
[01:35] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: if i don't says that i would like tell you sorry but my english is so bas
[01:36] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: yes but in this chanell noone are connected
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't care, I am no native either, as long as I can somewhat understand what you say it's all fine
[01:36] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: now only 3 person are conected
[01:37] <wishu> MilhousePunkRock: other thing: how i register my nickname?
[01:37] <RogueX> wishu: GOOD question...  I was wondering the same
[01:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, if I only could remember that... I think the procedere is described in the help of Konversation
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> http://pastebin.ca/93351
[01:37] <wishu> !help
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[01:38] <h3sp4wn> MillhousePunkRock: ^^
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> MillhousePunkRock: Change it to look like that (adding the wpa ascii key)
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Roger that h3sp4wn
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> then sudo wpa_gui
[01:39] <robewald> !skim
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[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> That looks better now, h3sp4wn, but DHCP is not quite working yet
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: are you in wpa_gui ?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> no
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> wpa_cli sorry
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Hold on
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, it says "interactive mode" and has a little prompt with a > in front
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> type status
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa-state=SCANNING
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: type scan and then scan_results - and pastebin the output
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Only two lines, still pastebin?
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> ok just paste it here
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> bssid / frequency / signal level / flags / ssid
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> 00:13:49:07:7a:f0       2437    196     [WPA-PSK-TKIP]
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> That is indeed the MAC of my router
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't have a name then - turn on ssid scanning at least temporarily
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Yeah, the ESSID is hidden
[01:51] <robewald> tristan_: is your icon problem solved?
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> Hi 1
[01:53] <|lostbyte|> Any one know of a simple linux video editor ?
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93372
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> That's the scan results for now
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Why not get it working with a shorter one (so you know its working then change it to something more secure afterwards)
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Before we lose our heads over that one & in the key, what if I altered that to something else?
[01:54] <|lostbyte|> cut, merge, split, convert, resize, and all those mencoder stunts... ?
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> But a little bit more visual..
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I don't think it is & that is the problem maybe some other character
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (' or ` for example)
[01:55] <Healot> virtualdubmod with WINE, |lostbyte| :)
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> I could go without the & first and see if I can work it out according to the howto...
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> no ' or ` in there
[01:55] <|lostbyte|> virtualdubmod is freeware ?
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: All you need to do is remove the & and put the key into psk="jijif" etc and it should work
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> What other chars could give the shell trouble?
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> `'\
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> @
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> $
[01:57] <MilhousePunkRock> no $ in there either, but 2 @
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: What you have in wpa_cli (means everything is working right but the key is wrong)
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> a 63 character HEX key is still pretty secure, isn't it?
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Wpa only uses the key on association
[01:59] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Once its associated it generates its own keys and rotates them (hence why its better than wep)
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I just don't trust my neighbors... The DSL LED was lit up once when none of our PCs was on
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> That was on 128bit WEP though
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: they won't be able to crack wpa in any sane amount of time
[02:00] <|lostbyte|> Healot, have a look at kino, if you didt know..
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: (whereas wep takes about 5 mins to crack - wpa takes years)
[02:01] <MilhousePunkRock> So even a 20 char HEX key is sufficient?
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: I would just use an ascii key 20 characters (mixture of letters and numbers)
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: convert to hex with wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Mine has never been cracked (and I have powerful antennas so I can use it outside)
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Something like this: XgYx1bCMXlpShtJOY4RrqrFx4P8ArcTpWhpr1mWDXgl3Fo13PbvcxcQLRMAK1em
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: That would be fine
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Then run wpa_passphrase ArcorWirelessLAN XgYx1bCMXlpShtJOY4RrqrFx4P8ArcTpWhpr1mWDXgl3Fo13PbvcxcQLRMAK1em
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> and put the hex key into /etc/network/interfaces (without the quotes)
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> wpa-psk outputofwpapassphrase
[02:07] <MilhousePunkRock> In progress
[02:07] <tristan_> robewald, no my icon problem is not solved. I choose a new icon for thunderbird in my K menu but the icon that is displayed on my thunderbird window is still the same...
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0 ??
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> yes
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> then sudo wpa_cli
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> status (should say wpa_state=COMPLETED)
[02:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Looks like it still has trouble with the DHCP
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> The point is, I _am_ on the Laptop already, but with a wired connection through eth0
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Is that why DHCP is having issues?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Is the wpa_state=COMPLETED ?
[02:10] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: you should only have one dhcp connection at a time up (you can't have 2 default routes)
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> But if I unplug the cable now, I won't be connected to the web no more
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: all you need to know is whether wpa_state=COMPLETED in wpa_cli
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: dhcp will work that is not the problem
[02:12] <robewald> tristan_: mmh, for thunderbird I don't know. for applications using the kdelibs you can use the --miniicon option to set the icon in the titlebar
[02:12] <MilhousePunkRock> wpa_cli gives that CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECT again
[02:12] <tristan_> anyone is able to input japanese in Dapper with skim? I can't seem to configure it correctly
[02:13] <tristan_> thanks robewald, I'll try that
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: set the key to testpassphrase or something
[02:14] <robewald> tristan_: japanese works for me with gtk based applications. I am still fighting with qt based ones :-(
[02:14] <tristan_> robewald, in fact i'm using kde
[02:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think it's a key problem anymore, the passphrase thing went fine
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: what is the output of status in wpa_cli (I am going to stop bothering trying to help you if I have to ask everything more than once)
[02:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe the wpa_supplicant.conf still has the old key?
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> its not using wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:17] <robewald> tristan_: i got it to work :-)
[02:17] <MilhousePunkRock> I told you before, it prints that CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECT again, I can't even type state
[02:17] <robewald> export LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8
[02:18] <tristan_> robewald, how did you do? I have scim installed anthy and japanese fonts. But still when I type CTRL+RIGHT which should switch from French to Japanese it doesn't work
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: lsmod | grep ath
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: open a konsole
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: and type LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 kwrite
[02:19] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: what matters is whether it is ath_pci or ath_new_pci
[02:19] <robewald> tristan_: then try to hit CTRL+SPACE
[02:20] <tristan_> robewald, not working. Cannot switch to Japanese
[02:20] <robewald> tristan_: a window should appear. with CTRL+ALT+DOWN you can switch to japanese
[02:20] <robewald> tristan_: are your XMODIFIERS and QT_IM_MODULE variables set?
[02:20] <tristan_> robewald, negative
[02:21] <tristan_> robewald, I don't know what you are talking about
[02:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I changed the key to testpassphrase now h3sp4wn
[02:21] <robewald> tristan_: what steps have you taken until now?
[02:22] <tristan_> robewald,  I thought that just configuring scim and downloading fonts would be enough
[02:22] <MilhousePunkRock> It says ath_pci h3sp4wn
[02:22] <robewald> tristan_: please install the skim package
[02:23] <robewald> tristan_: need to restart. i am back in a minute
[02:23] <tristan_> robewald, OK
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and you put 1d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8
[02:25] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and you put wpa-psk d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8 into /etc/network/interfaces ?
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> wpa-psk 1d568fa0d5e20fffa4c4f791bea3e8cbf49dc4be5f316f25b809fe9bd85b00d8 (sorry)
[02:27] <h3sp4wn> (that is the output of wpa_passphrase ArcorWirelessLAN testpassphrase
[02:28] <MilhousePunkRock> i did that h3sp4wn
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Is wpa_cli still complaining about the keys being wrong ?
[02:29] <robewald> tristan_: i am back :-). did you install skim?
[02:29] <MilhousePunkRock> yes
[02:29] <tristan_> robewald, yes it was installed. I am following the tutorial here : http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Turn on ssid broadcasting
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: you have run sudo ifdown ath0 etc etc
[02:31] <MilhousePunkRock> it's already on, i turned off the MAC filtering as well
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You may have a card that only works with madwifi-ng
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe -r ath_pci
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe new_ath_pci
[02:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Done both, h3sp4wn, didn't give any feedback
[02:33] <robewald> tristan_: i don't want to read that howto now. basically i installed skim
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: change the driver type in /etc/network/interfaces to wext (and try again)
[02:34] <robewald> and scim-qtimm
[02:35] <robewald> then i started skim from the konsole, clicked with my right mouse button on the tray icon and set the options
[02:36] <tristan_> robewald, it's OK; it is working now
[02:36] <tristan_> robewald, thanks for your help
[02:36] <robewald> tristan_: cool, have fun
[02:37] <tristan_> I can write to my japanese friends now
[02:38] <aegeanlinux> night Y'all
[02:40] <MilhousePunkRock> That did not quite work, h3sp4wn
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: http://pastebin.ca/93427
[02:44] <tristan_> is there any way to integrate the xscreensaver to the kscreensaver list?
[02:44] <tristan_> Else I have to launch by myself xscreensaver so that the comand xscreensaver-command -lock will work...
[02:45] <Hobbsee> tristan_: install kscreensaver-xsavers
[02:47] <tristan_> thanks Hobbsee
[02:49] <tristan_> Hobbsee, there are some of my xscreensaver that are not in the new list like molecule (lumpy)
[02:50] <Hobbsee> tristan_: is https://launchpad.net/bugs/49228 the same bug?
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: ath0 is gone now o_O
[02:52] <Pupeno> a net salary is before or after taxes ?
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> after, Pupeno
[02:52] <Hobbsee> Pupeno: after.
[02:53] <tristan_> Hobbsee, it's ok. Problem solved. Thanks for your help
[02:53] <Hobbsee> tristan_: :) what was the solution?
[02:54] <tristan_> Hobbsee, correctly configuring the screensaver so that it looks like I want ;)
[02:54] <Hobbsee> tristan_: ahh :P
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: Try #madwifi - I don't understand what you are doing wrong
[02:55] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I get ath0 back now that it's gone?
[02:55] <mindbob> a/join #openbsd
[02:55] <mindbob> sorry
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Will do, h3sp4wn, thanks for your patience anyway!
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: They may be able to give you more specific commands to find out exactly what is going wrong (keep the passphrase as testpassphrase though)
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If they say upgrade to the latest stable version of madwifi - I can probably help you do that
[03:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I have yet to wait if they say anything at all over there, h3sp4wn...
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: It usually takes longer because the people in there are the developers of madwifi
[03:02] <MilhousePunkRock> If I knew how to get ath0 back, I could try one of the other approaches from the HowTo step by step, h3sp4wn
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo modprobe -r ath_new_pci && sudo modprobe ath_pci (wpa_supplicant is the best approach)
[03:03] <driz> hey people does amarok has a way to shrink music files so i can fit them all on my PSP
[03:03] <driz> ?
[03:03] <h3sp4wn>  MilhousePunkRock: Do you use anything from linux-restricted-modules ?
[03:03] <gnuton> Hi!
[03:05] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I think I needed some of it when I tried to set up my TV card (which failed and was then abandoned)
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: If you remove restricted modules
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: You can build madwifi 0.91 from source
[03:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to figure out if anything that I actually use needs the restricted modules prior to removing it?
[03:10] <MilhousePunkRock> WTF!
[03:10] <BKaj> 'Morning Linux Lovers....or should I say Kubuntu Kravers!
[03:10] <MilhousePunkRock> I think I am connected to the wireless now for some reason!
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: sudo wpa_cli
[03:11] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: status (should say completed)
[03:11] <Pupeno> driz: not amarok, far that, you'll need another program, but I am not sure which one.
[03:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Indeed it says COMPLETED
[03:11] <nirmal> goodmorning i am a new to Kubuntu from India hi all
[03:12] <gatekeeper> hello
[03:12] <BKaj> hey gatekeeper, how goes it ?
[03:12] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: I altered the WPA-PSK in the /network/interfaces from the passkey output to the original "testpassphrase" in quotes
[03:12] <nirmal> gatekeeper: hi there it is cool
[03:12] <gatekeeper> BKaj: fine thanx and with you?
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> did ifdown and up
[03:13] <BKaj> just fine thx :)
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> and the lights go on...
[03:13] <gatekeeper> nirmal: we got a heat wave :-)
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: So that means its working (now try making the key more complicated )
[03:14] <gatekeeper> BKaj: you must be from the US if it's morning?
[03:14] <BKaj> nirmal is prolly used to the heat
[03:14] <driz> Pupeno: thanks anyways I'll google it or something
[03:14] <root__> hi
[03:14] <BKaj> Ontario, Canada gatekeeper :)
[03:14] <gatekeeper> BKaj: cool weather nice?
[03:15] <nickay> there is any packege in ubuntu for Wine?
[03:15] <BKaj> it is now ...we had 90's a few days back ...not used to that
[03:15] <BKaj> sounds like a plan MilhousePunkRock :)
[03:15] <gatekeeper> nickay: do you mean is wine in the repositories?
[03:15] <nirmal> now the room temp is 31 at 18 hrs
[03:16] <Pupeno> nickay: apt-cache search wine ?
[03:16] <gatekeeper> BKaj: record for the uk 36.3C yesterday
[03:16] <BKaj> I'm about 200mi North of Torornto , in mining and forestry country , gatekeeper...where in the US are you ?
[03:16] <nirmal> gatekeeper: oh my God
[03:16] <pekay> anyone has the problem upgrading amaroK ? :(, mine says BREAK :/
[03:17] <gatekeeper> BKaj: in the uk ^^^
[03:17] <BKaj> ok UK cool
[03:17] <gatekeeper> BKaj: no hot 36.3C :-)
[03:18] <v3ctor> my car sitting in the hot parking lot yestrerday ready 105F
[03:18] <BKaj> ok I'll switch to celsius again ...we do celsius here as well , switched back in the 70s
[03:18] <BKaj> 36C ...gawd
[03:19] <gatekeeper> nirmal: have a look here you will see the repos you need to install wine: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:19] <BKaj> we had 33 here 3 days ago with 90 humidity ...not to comfy
[03:19] <BKaj> too
[03:19] <nirmal> thanks gk
[03:20] <gatekeeper> BKaj: plenty humid here came back from the flicks at 11pm still 25C outside, house considerable warmer phew...
[03:20] <gatekeeper> nirmal: np :-)
[03:21] <v3ctor> Temperature 79.0 F (26.1 C) (Indianapolis)
[03:21] <v3ctor> nice here this AM
[03:21] <BKaj> yeah , bummer ..it'll cool ..we're sending some cool dry canuck across the pond as we speak
[03:21] <nirmal> last month i installed Kanotix64 bit and it was also cool
[03:21] <BKaj> air , that is :)
[03:21] <gatekeeper> BKaj: cool :-)
[03:22] <nirmal> now i am on Kubuntu system :-|
[03:22] <gatekeeper> nirmal: how long have been using linux?
[03:22] <cox377> 27'c UK
[03:22] <cox377> :)
[03:23] <cox377> was 36.5'c yesterday, but a little cooler today
[03:23] <BKaj> nirmal: I'm quite happy with kubuntu so far ... for a relative noobie like me it works well and the support here has ben very gratifying :)
[03:23] <cox377> does anyone here use the default kubuntu wireless assistant?
[03:23] <cox377> i've heard it's a loada*** and someone did say an alternative
[03:24] <cox377> but.. being me i forgot to save it
[03:24] <BKaj> it's 9:23 and 22C here in Northern Ontario
[03:24] <gnuton> cox377: have you tried knetworkwireless?
[03:24] <cox377> shall do now
[03:24] <cox377> basically, the default wireless assistant does not remember the connections
[03:24] <cox377> u have to load it everytime
[03:24] <gnuton> cox377: it's better!
[03:25] <gatekeeper> don't knock it, it's nice to have a bit of warmth and blue skies but can get a little over powering
[03:25] <gnuton> cox377: i don't know!
[03:25] <nirmal> BKaj: yes i feel great to be with you all here
[03:25] <BKaj> gatekeeper: 36C is abit much tho
[03:25] <cox377> is knetworkwireless under the repos?
[03:26] <pekay> someone, what i do with broken updates?!
[03:26] <gnuton> no knetworkmanager
[03:26] <gatekeeper> BKaj: true
[03:27] <gatekeeper> pekay: install synaptic and remove the broken ones is what I would do
[03:28] <gatekeeper> pekay: scratch what I just said, not sure what you would do with updates
[03:29] <pekay> gate: :S, says amaroK depends on libifp4
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: so have you changed it to something more secure (and removed auto eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces)
[03:29] <nirmal> gatekeeper: i have been trying to install linux since 1998
[03:29] <BKaj> Now if zi could just figure out how to get my windows network printer to work...itgets the message on th etst print , moves the print cartridge to the print setup position , then it just sits there ...the printjob report says it's queued and ready but it never does print
[03:30] <gatekeeper> nirmal: should be an old hand now :-)
[03:30] <nirmal> but truly i could get acces to Internet and good distros in the year 2005 since then i have installed more than 20 flavours of linux
[03:31] <gatekeeper> nirmal: your favourite being?
[03:31] <gatekeeper> pekay: is that lib in your repos?
[03:31] <pekay> i dont know
[03:32] <pekay> just installed Kubuntu, wanted the new amaroK
[03:32] <nirmal> but at that time i could not afford hardware since it was costly and at the sametime due to lack of good Distros and i learned on my own
[03:32] <pekay> i cant even run easybuntu :S
[03:32] <nirmal> now my fav is Kubuntu :-)
[03:33] <gatekeeper> pekay: you don't need to run easybuntu, there is a repos on the kubuntu site for that version put it in your sources.list and install
[03:33] <Healot> nirmal, how's india?
[03:34] <BKaj> pekay: does adept run ok ?
[03:34] <pekay> i did put in the repository in my sources.listye
[03:34] <pekay> ye*
[03:34] <BKaj> then go with synaptic
[03:34] <nirmal> Healot: now it is quite cool but the summer is hot
[03:35] <BKaj> where in india are you nirmal?
[03:35] <Healot> cool
[03:35] <gatekeeper> pekay: yes use synaptic, reinstall or uninstall the broken pacakges, all the repos you should need are here:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:36] <Healot> i heard banglore has lot of cool things
[03:36] <Johncro13> hello, room.
[03:36] <nirmal> Visakhapatnam
[03:36] <gregb> hello
[03:37] <gatekeeper> pekay: got to run ask one of the others if you need more help
[03:37] <pekay> sure thanks
[03:37] <nirmal> Hawkwind: Banglore is a cool place but i donot know the cool things :-)
[03:37] <Johncro13> I'm having some difficulty connecting to the net.  I have an ethernet controller that Kubuntu recognises when I "lspci -v", but I can't enable it via networking.  Anyone with any experience?
[03:37] <nirmal> gatekeeper: bye for now
[03:37] <gatekeeper> BKaj: nirmal and everyone else, catch you latter folks, off to enjoy the sun
[03:38] <pekay> only synaptic doesnt work :S, just loads then exits
[03:38] <gatekeeper> nirmal: bye for now
[03:38] <nirmal> ok thanks bye for now
[03:38] <nirmal> bye
[03:38] <nirmal> cu soon
[03:38] <Healot> see you l8r
[03:39] <gatekeeper> pekay: ask one of the others for apt-get commands to sort you out
[03:39] <Healot> do you know how to work with ifconfig? Johncro13
[03:39] <gatekeeper> pekay: sorry to leave you in the learch
[03:39] <Johncro13> ifcongif --help
[03:40] <Johncro13> ifconfig --help.
[03:40] <pekay> its fine gatekeeper
[03:40] <pekay> xd
[03:40] <gatekeeper> pekay: good luck :-)
[03:40] <pekay> amarok seems to update now
[03:40] <pekay> doh, hes gone
[03:40] <Johncro13> btw, this is dhcp.  no encryption.
[03:41] <Healot> dhcp doesn't do encryption
[03:42] <charlene> hi
[03:42] <charlene> is kerwin here
[03:42] <Healot> hi charlene
[03:42] <charlene> can i join
[03:42] <charlene> hi healot
[03:43] <Johncro13> I don't think ifconfig will do it.
[03:44] <doppelganger> sup guys
[03:46] <BKaj> I was trying out skype , but it was breaking up as if it was searching for a port...could there be a port mapping issue with skype ?
[03:49] <MilhousePunkRock> h3sp4wn: It seems to work now, but I am not automatically connected on boot up...
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: auto ath0 (make sure thats there)
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: and remove auto eth0
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> MilhousePunkRock: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <MilhousePunkRock> It's already in the interfaces like that...
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> After I rebooted I went straight to wpa_cli, the status was inactive then
[03:54] <MilhousePunkRock> After I did an ifdown and up it was completed
[03:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Could there be some leftovers of the WEP encryption on boot time?
[03:55] <DrBair> would it be proper to post bugs on konq 3.5.3 on launchpad since it not in the offical repos?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yeah, because it's in edgy now.
[03:57] <DrBair> Hobbsee: are you on an edgy system with konqueror by chance?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yep
[03:57] <BKaj> is this something to be concerned about ?  "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"
[03:57] <Hobbsee> BKaj: no
[03:58] <DrBair> Hobbsee: could you please confirm a bug for me by going to newsforge.org with javascript enabled?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: what's the bug?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: link?  newsforge.org?
[03:58] <MilhousePunkRock> BKaj: That is because there are some wacom drawing tablet drivers in the xorg.conf by default
[03:58] <DrBair> Hobbsee: yep
[03:58] <Hobbsee> DrBair: yep?
[03:58] <BKaj> ok MilhousePunkRock , Hobbsee,  thx
[03:59] <MilhousePunkRock> BKaj: You can comment them out with #
[03:59] <DrBair> Hobbsee: might need to reload it a few times... its quite random
[03:59] <Hobbsee> DrBair: what's the bug?
[04:00] <Johncro13> what command do I use to just reset all network info so it'll autoconfig?
[04:00] <DrBair> Hobbsee: but on some webpages javascript code gets rendered as text, looks ugly, or occassionally the page just won't appear
[04:00] <DrBair> Hobbsee: but with it disabled, everything works great 100% of the time
[04:05] <nirmal> BKaj: can i use kdesu adept_updater?
[04:06] <Johncro13> hmmm.....
[04:06] <Hobbsee> DrBair: beyond konqueror just being generally slow, i dont see much.  then again, i dont use konq for webbrowsing
[04:07] <BKaj> yes I would nirmal
[04:08] <DrBair> Hobbsee: for me the page looks different everytime i refresh
[04:09] <Hobbsee> DrBair: konq 3.5.3?  hmmm.
[04:09] <BKaj> nirmal:  sometimes at boot up adept will have an update flag in the panel , just click on it
[04:10] <wolfpaw> hiho
[04:10] <nirmal> yes i got the update flag thanks let me try
[04:11] <BKaj> yeah Hobbsee, I find Konq awfully skow as a browser
[04:12] <BKaj> slow
[04:12] <nirmal> download complete shall i update it
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Try prelinking kde that can speed stuff up
[04:13] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason whenever I put a CD in my computer and try to browse to it, I get a message saying "Malformed URL". Any idea why and how to fix this?
[04:14] <DrBair> Hobbsee: ugh... its not konqueror. I loaded the page and noticed it looked completely different because I have adblock turned on for konq
[04:14] <DrBair> Hobbsee: disabled adblock and everything is working
[04:15] <BKaj> does anyone use "beep" media player and if so is it worth keeping ?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> DrBair: ahh.
[04:16] <BKaj> adblock sucks on FF too ...I got rid of it
[04:17] <BKaj> hemejorma... suomalainen!
[04:17] <arso> hey how do i get a list of partitions and their total / free space
[04:17] <DrBair> adblock is so nice... webpages load a million times faster when you don't need to wait for huge gif and flash animations to download
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Just get a faster connection DrBair :-P
[04:18] <DrBair> arso: df -h will list mounted partitions
[04:18] <arso> DrBair:  thnx
[04:18] <DrBair> MilhousePunkRock: I already have 8MBit cable!
[04:18] <Healot> sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions on all disks
[04:18] <MilhousePunkRock> lol DrBair... Then it's probably a good idea to use AdBlock
[04:19] <arso> Healot:  thats better, thnx
[04:19] <arso> Healot:  how do i know their free space
[04:20] <dillinger> hi
[04:20] <dillinger> anyone knows of a good video editing software for linux. something like adobe premiere for windows ?
[04:21] <arso> any online tv streaming on linux?
[04:21] <arso> and online radio
[04:22] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason whenever I put a CD in my computer and try to browse to it, I get a message saying "Malformed URL". Any idea why and how to fix this?
[04:22] <BKaj> dillinger: Kino might work for you
[04:22] <dillinger> thank you BKaj, i'll give it a try right now
[04:22] <BlankB> dillinger: I have never found a package for linux that works like adobe premiere.
[04:23] <dillinger> hope its a good one
[04:23] <arso> BKaj:  AUDIO/VIDEO streamin?
[04:23] <BKaj> arso: good video editing software
[04:23] <dillinger> yep BlankB, i'm not really asking for an adobe premiere version for linux, but a software that would allow me to really start editing some videos in linux
[04:23] <dillinger> just a good video editing software would do
[04:23] <arso> BKaj:  no i mean, do u know anything for audio.video streamind ;)
[04:24] <BKaj> not video , but streamtuner works for audio
[04:24] <BlankB> dillinger: there is cinelerra, kino, and also the updated blender sequence editor in Blender.
[04:25] <BKaj> streamtuner uses the xmms player
[04:25] <nirmal> du
[04:25] <dillinger> thx BlankB, i heard about cinelerra but couldnt find it using apt-get
[04:25] <arso> BKaj:  wats xmms
[04:25] <dillinger> guess there is no package for it yet
[04:25] <BKaj> it should be in your K-menu arso
[04:26] <arso> thats its full name?
[04:26] <BKaj> yes
[04:26] <arso> hmm i dont have it
[04:27] <BKaj> it'll be in adept , I'm sure
[04:27] <BlankB> dillinger: there is also a commercial editor for linux called MainActor made by Mainconcept
[04:27] <arso> ak checking in adept
[04:27] <dillinger> yep, but i'm not planning on dropping a single dime on some software using linux
[04:28] <dillinger> that's the main reason why i switched from windows
[04:28] <BlankB> dillinger: there is a demo version available.
[04:28] <arso> BKaj:  i get many results (non installed) which one should i get
[04:28] <dillinger> the demo wont make it, i need a fully fonctionnal software
[04:28] <arso> buy it :)
[04:29] <dillinger_> i'm not buying anything
[04:29] <BlankB> dillinger_: understtod.
[04:29] <dillinger_> ;)
[04:29] <BKaj> arso, just the xmms for now
[04:30] <BlankB> dillinger_: I havent tried the enhanced sequence editor in blender but it looks really promising.
[04:30] <arso> BKaj:  okay , installing
[04:30] <dillinger_> i'm downloading kino and blender
[04:31] <dillinger_> BlankB: both seem promising, guess they'll be ok for all my needs
[04:31] <dillinger_> BlankB: + i like free softwares
[04:31] <BlankB> dillinger_: I think the updated sequence editor may only be in the latest version that is not in the repos yet.
[04:31] <BlankB> dillinger_: but the version from the blender.org site works great.
[04:32] <dillinger_> BlankB: Ok, i'll give it a try
[04:32] <BKaj> anyone here use skype ?
[04:33] <BlankB> dillinger_: I almost forgot there is another one: jahshaka (never used it though)
[04:34] <dillinger_> thx
[04:35] <Healot> yo yo
[04:35] <arso> BKaj:  i use skype on windows
[04:35] <arso> yo yo
[04:36] <Healot> torring rocks
[04:36] <edobbs> aye aye
[04:39] <arso> whats a ".asx" file?
[04:39] <wolfpaw> m$ fileformat
[04:40] <wolfpaw> streaming media
[04:41] <wolfpaw> how do I stop the x-server on kubuntu...i wanted to install graphic accelerator drivers
[04:42] <wolfpaw> no one here who could help me?
[04:43] <edobbs> wolfpaw: hit CTRL-ALT-F1, log in, then 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop'
[04:43] <edobbs> that's the polite way, anyway
[04:43] <arso> lol
[04:44] <wolfpaw> ok i will try...thanks
[04:44] <arso> remember
[04:44] <arso> dont be rude ;)
[04:44] <arso> kde has feelings
[04:44] <wolfpaw> If I am rude my system gets me all twice back ^^
[04:45] <Mr_Crispy> I think I hurt my KDE's feelings as much as I've been swearing at it over this cdrom problem.
[04:45] <arso> lol
[04:45] <arso> i am nice to lil kd
[04:46] <arso> "This SHOUTcast server runs on Linux, and is an elf binary compiled with glibc6. SHOUTcast no longer supports older Linux kernels running libc5 or glibc"
[04:46] <arso> wat the hell does that mean
[04:46] <edobbs> don't try to run it on redhat 6
[04:46] <Mr_Crispy> so, I'll ask once again... does anyone know why I would be getting a "malformed url" message whenever I try to open a cdrom?
[04:46] <arso> but fine with kubuntu?
[04:46] <edobbs> arso: yes, yes indeed
[04:47] <fortega> hola!
[04:47] <arso> yay
[04:47] <arso> hola!
[04:47] <edobbs> arso: you can always do a `dpkg -l '*libc*' | grep ^ii` to see what C libraries are present on your system
[04:47] <francolq_> hello. sodipodi only says "Segmentation Fault" in my AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. Anyone could make sodipodi work?
[04:48] <fortega> como puedo instalar un reproductor de mp3 en KUBUNTU
[04:48] <fortega> ??
[04:48] <arso> edobbs:  i see, thnx
[04:48] <fortega> ???
[04:48] <edobbs> fortega: que es un 'reproductor'?
[04:49] <fortega> BUENO UN SOFTWARE PARA ESCUCHAR MUSIC MP3
[04:49] <fortega> EN KUBUNTU
[04:49] <Healot> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:49] <arso> edobbs:  i downloaded that shoutcast package, un tarred it or watva, and i have a readme , configuration file and server binary, wat do i do now to install it
[04:49] <edobbs> arso: read the README :)
[04:50] <arso> edobbs:  i tried, didnt get it :(
[04:50] <edobbs> arso: in general, put it in its own directory somewhere (under /usr/local/<software-name> works fine for most things), and see what you're supposed to do with it
[04:50] <BKaj> Mr Crispy, have you tried looking at your system settings/personal/soundmultimedia to make sure the dcrom is mounted?
[04:50] <arso> k
[04:50] <BKaj> er cdrom
[04:51] <Mr_Crispy> BKaj: I'll check real quick
[04:51] <arso> how can i run asx streams on linux
[04:51] <edobbs> arso: for server software, typically you'll want an init script to start it up automatically, and a config file to specify how you want it to behave
[04:52] <edobbs> arso: that's why i like using .deb packages or apt-gettable software since it'll handle all that messy admin stuff for you automagically
[04:52] <arso> i see
[04:52] <arso> so isnt there any apt-get'table' software for streaming?
[04:53] <BKaj> Mr Crispy, it should specify /dev/cdrom
[04:53] <Mr_Crispy> looks like it says that
[04:54] <BKaj> arso stremtuner is in the Adept i beleive, it's a internet radio stn listening and record proggie
[04:54] <Mr_Crispy> BKaj: still can't browse to my files on it though
[04:54] <francolq_> hello. sodipodi only says "Segmentation Fault" in my AMD64 Kubuntu Breezy. Anyone could make sodipodi work?
[04:54] <arso> BKaj:  ya i installed it, but i want video too :( online tv and stuff
[04:55] <BKaj> there is an online tv proggie , forgotten the name tho :(
[04:55] <arso> for linux?
[04:56] <arso> xmms isnt closing..
[04:56] <nirmal> shoutcast
[04:56] <BKaj> right click on it in the panel and choose quit
[04:56] <arso> ok killed it
[04:57] <BKaj> nirmal: yep that's one of them
[04:57] <arso> i wanted shoutcast too, but had a hard time ttrying to isntall it
[04:57] <BKaj> well if ya use the winamp plugins shoutcast will work
[04:57] <BKaj> never tried winamp in linux tho
[04:58] <arso> winamp is there for linux?
[04:58] <arso> oh
[04:58] <nirmal> winamp is best
[04:58] <arso> ya , on windows i use it
[04:58] <nirmal> linux version is also there for download
[04:58] <Mr_Crispy> aha! Fixed It! (at least I think)
[04:59] <nirmal> Mr_Crispy: how do you do that
[04:59] <Mr_Crispy> the cdrom problem?
[04:59] <nirmal> yes
[04:59] <scott_> hey does anyone know how I can network with my other machine??
[04:59] <arso> nirmal:  oh , main site? i looked , couldnt find it
[04:59] <arso> samba
[05:00] <Mr_Crispy> in my case, I went to system settings> Disk & Filesystems
[05:00] <edobbs> scott_: what do you mean?
[05:00] <Mr_Crispy> for some reason, the option to automatically enable and mount my optical drive had gotten turned off.
[05:00] <scott_> I am trying to network like I used to under network neighbourhood on windows
[05:00] <arso> BKaj:  somethings wrong with xmms, if i try to press any of its buttons the program freezes, have to kill it to close it
[05:01] <nirmal> may be for security reasons it will be by default off?
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> right click on the drive and select "enable at start up" (also changed the mount permission to "any user may enable/disable anytime"
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> it wasn't always like that
[05:01] <BKaj> http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Winamp_3_for_Linux/1002748075/1
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> at least not on my system
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> but I could be mistaken
[05:01] <nirmal> cool
[05:01] <arso> BKaj:  can i configuree streamtuner to use a player other that xmms? and if so, which one
[05:01] <Mr_Crispy> either way, It will let me browse to teh cdrom when I put it in now
[05:02] <arso> !stream
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about stream - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:02] <arso> rpm
[05:02] <arso> !rpm
[05:02] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:02] <BKaj> amarok worked in suse , but it wouldn't work in kubuntu
[05:02] <arso> winamp is a .rpm , can i instal that?
[05:03] <BKaj> in streamtuner
[05:03] <Kr4t05> !tell arso about alien
[05:03] <BKaj> don't think so , try to find a deb pkg
[05:03] <nirmal> mine is a dvd rom and i donot see it anywhere :-(
[05:04] <Kr4t05> BKaj, he can use alien, but it's a "use-at-your-own-risk" thing.
[05:04] <arso> BKaj:  ok .
[05:04] <BKaj> Kr4t05: never used alien
[05:04] <arso> id rather not risk it
[05:04] <Kr4t05> Okay, suit yourself.
[05:04] <BKaj> I would try it but I just never used it
[05:05] <BKaj> how does alien work ?
[05:05] <nirmal> mine is a dvd rom and i donot see it anywhere :-(
[05:05] <edobbs> arso: you may want to check out the post-install docs for ubuntu, there's a good guide to getting different media bits set up "the ubuntu way"
[05:05] <Mr_Crispy> that's odd. I'm using a dvdrom also.
[05:05] <arso> edobbs:  okay , sure
[05:05] <nirmal> where shall i try to find it
[05:05] <BKaj> I have a dvd rom as well
[05:06] <scott_>  I am trying to network like I used to under network neighbourhood on windows
[05:07] <arso> BKaj:  for listen to a stream its "xmms %q" , wat should i type for another player? and which one u  think i should use
[05:08] <BKaj> arso, you can try amarok , but I doubt if it will work
[05:08] <Mr_Crispy> I'm not sure, nirmal. I'm new to this os myself. Like I said, I played with teh settings in the Disk & Filesystems section of the System Settings
[05:08] <arso> BKaj:  "amarok %q" ?
[05:08] <nirmal> ok i am also new ,  thanks anyway
[05:08] <BKaj> arso yup
[05:09] <wily_> anyone can help me with kismet?
[05:09] <arso> BKaj:  i did that
[05:09] <arso> but xmms s till loaded
[05:09] <arso> and its fine this time
[05:09] <Mr_Crispy> this is really weird. This CD has a windows and a mac partition and linux will only let me see the mac part. Any idea on how to see the windows part of the disk?
[05:10] <BKaj> it's odd , mine also sys that my cdrom is disabled in the disk admin settings ...very strange , but i can read and copy from cds
[05:10] <BKaj> and dvds
[05:10] <Bentley> Hi all.  I'm having a strange problem with kubuntu dapper, where my .xsession-errors log grows enormously huge with the repeating message: "QFile::open: No file name specified"
[05:10] <Bentley> i know I could link those to /dev/null ... but I want to find out what's causing the error
[05:10] <tictric> Mr_Crispy: mount it
[05:10] <Bentley> any ideas?
[05:10] <Kr4t05> Mr_Crispy: How can a CD have partitions?
[05:11] <Mr_Crispy> I don't know if its partitions or not, but there's mac files and windows files on it and its only letting me see the mac files
[05:11] <dillinger> BlankB: just to tell you that cinelerra is exactly the software i need
[05:11] <dillinger> BlankB: thx
[05:11] <cox377> is there a softphone for kubuntu that can be used for any provider?
[05:11] <BKaj> cool , dillinger
[05:12] <dillinger> BlankB: I installed it, tried it, its off the hook
[05:12] <dillinger> ;) BKaj
[05:12] <Kr4t05> cox377: Skype is available for Linux.
[05:12] <BlankB> dillinger: great. Did you find a .deb for it or a repository that had it?
[05:12] <dillinger> yep
[05:12] <dillinger> there was an ubuntu dapper rep
[05:12] <BKaj> my skype voice test sounds like it's being interupted by a dialing phone
[05:12] <dillinger> its on the cinelerra official website
[05:13] <BlankB> dillinger: ok. I will check it out...its been a while since I last looked at it.
[05:13] <BKaj> thx dillinger, gonna check it out
[05:13] <dillinger> ;)
[05:14] <Kr4t05> Le Sigh...
[05:14] <Kr4t05> I'm bored...
[05:14] <cox377> i'm basically after a generic softphone
[05:15] <Mr_Crispy> this is odd..when I browse to /media I have a cdrom with a link arrow on the icon, a cdrom0 and a sdb1
[05:15] <Mr_Crispy> cdrom and cdrom0 both bring up my cd drive and sdb1 says it doesn't exist when I try to open it
[05:15] <sebby> who can help me with something plsss?
[05:16] <Kr4t05> SoLo18: First, try keeping the same nick.  MP3s work.
[05:24] <musiclinux> has anyone had trouble with the 2.6.15-26 kernel? I can't even get to the gdm... it just hangs on the bootsplash
[05:24] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: after you update the kernel, you need to reinstall your video drivers.
[05:25] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: thanks....but why?
[05:25] <edobbs> and this is why i'm still running XP on my laptop
[05:25] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: Just one of those things.
[05:26] <Kr4t05> edobbs, ok...?
[05:26] <edobbs> kr4t05: it's not just "one of those things", it's a really annoying shortcoming, like many things with Linux
[05:26] <gan|y|med> hello and my appreciation to you all, folks :)
[05:26] <edobbs> don't get me wrong, it's great for server use, and if you have limited requirements, it can work well on a desktop
[05:27] <edobbs> but you can spend HOURS trying to get something like ACPI or 3D accelerated drivers working that JUST. PLAIN. WORK. under XP
[05:27] <gan|y|med> i have some issues with batch resizing using the kipi-plugins...
[05:27] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: so i would in my case reinstall the nvidia 3d ones?
[05:27] <Kr4t05> edobbs: we can't do anything about that untill some gets Microsoft to let loose on a few patents. God forbid Microsoft would lose money.
[05:27] <gan|y|med> edobbs: are using dapper?
[05:28] <Kr4t05> musiclinux: yep, just 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' along with the restricted modules for your kernel.
[05:28] <edobbs> it's not just MS, it's hardware vendors like Dell that ship broken ACPI implementations
[05:28] <edobbs> was using Dapper, yes
[05:28] <Kr4t05> edobbs: complain.
[05:28] <gan|y|med> uhoh
[05:29] <edobbs> obviously you can see how frustrated i got after trying to get ATI 3D accel graphics working with suspend/resume reliably
[05:29] <Kr4t05> If Dell realizes that they are losing a considerable consumer base, they will fix it.
[05:29] <gan|y|med> well, since i have been using dapper the acpi implementation on my nb doesn't work correctly, too. Strangely, that was better in breezy
[05:29] <edobbs> yeah, maybe; problem is, it's very easy for corporate customers to say "Just use XP!" in response to hardware/os problems like that
[05:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Does Kubuntu come with a telnet application by default?
[05:30] <edobbs> MilhousePunkRock: have you tried 'telnet' from the shell?
[05:30] <gan|y|med> edobbs: i am using ati opengl drivers + suspend works (any)
[05:30] <Kr4t05> edobbs: that's the problem, everyone is willing to say that Easier == Better.
[05:30] <edobbs> gan|y|med: what sort of PC are you running on?
[05:30] <gan|y|med> samsung notebook
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> That does indeed work, thx edobbs
[05:31] <edobbs> that's good to know
[05:31] <Kr4t05> edobbs: I'm using a home-built desktop.
[05:31] <gan|y|med> Kr4t05: sadly, you have to consider the USER
[05:31] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: that too.
[05:31] <gan|y|med> take my situation, for example
[05:32] <gan|y|med> i LOVE linux/GNU/kubuntu and all the open source stuff
[05:32] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: too many people are predisposed to Windows because it's the only OS that they hear of in everyday life.
[05:32] <gan|y|med> sadly, my professor does not care if i am late with my papers because i just had to fix some issue with my system
[05:33] <edobbs> indeed!
[05:33] <gan|y|med> Kr4t05: i agree
[05:33] <Kr4t05> I was just talking to my grandmother about what I was doing with my computer, (Updating packages) and I explained the concept of open source, she got the jist of it, but yeah.
[05:33] <edobbs> at least i only need an ssh client + web browser for most of my work
[05:33] <arso> could someone pleasee help me
[05:33] <arso> i am trying to follow
[05:33] <arso> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/democracy/wiki/LinuxNotes
[05:33] <arso> but having no luck
[05:33] <arso> isntalling democracy player
[05:34] <arso> and it aint there in adept
[05:34] <Kr4t05> arso: did you enable uni/multiverse?
[05:34] <gan|y|med> you are talking to your grandmother about that...? wish i could do so
[05:34] <arso> Kr4t05:  yes
[05:35] <BKaj> Kr4t05:  I'm almost 63 and still learning pc's and linux
[05:35] <Kr4t05> gan|y|med: I'm not the only nerd in the family. My uncle is good with computers.
[05:35] <arso> main restricted universe multiverse         for type deb
[05:35] <Kr4t05> arso: that's all I got.
[05:35] <arso> k
[05:35] <gan|y|med> ok back to my problem: is anybody here familiar to the kipi-plugins/gwenview
[05:35] <Kr4t05> BKaj: have you been into computers all your life?
[05:36] <arso> "simply double click on the deb files so they are opened with gdebi, first democracyplayer-data_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_all.deb and afer that democracyplayer_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb"
[05:36] <BKaj> Kr4t05: no only since I retired 7 yrs ago, altho I was using them as applications to run lab instruments and spreadsheets
[05:36] <arso> i am downloading the ubuntu version, doesnt matter if i am on kubuntu right?
[05:36] <BKaj> before that
[05:37] <dillinger> yep arso, it doesnt matter
[05:37] <arso> still not working
[05:37] <arso>  maybe i need to isntall "gdebi?/
[05:37] <arso> wateva that is
[05:38] <arso> when i try that command for installing .deb , i tdoesnt work
[05:38] <BKaj> my .cs repos are down so it's affecting my synaptic reloading
[05:38] <arso> wow ur
[05:38] <BKaj> oops .ca repos
[05:38] <arso> -
[05:38] <arso> 63
[05:39] <Kr4t05> BKaj: the thing about it, is most people who aren't directly interacting with computers everyday, or technically inclined towards technology, aren't going to be willing to spend time learning about it.
[05:39] <gan|y|med> is kuickshow out of the repos???
[05:39] <Kr4t05> BRB, I need to restart X
[05:39] <BKaj> Kr4t05: ain't that the truth ! :)
[05:42] <BKaj> BBIAB
[05:45] <bouncy> does someone know how to reverse the effect of "im-switch -s scim"?
[05:46] <fifamaster> f
[05:50] <Chongo> hi, does anyone know how to get turbolister 2 working in kubuntu with wine? are there any 'nix equivalents?
[05:52] <Hacker> hi
[05:52] <Hacker> hi all
[05:52] <Hacker> alooo
[05:52] <Hacker> kime diyom
[05:52] <Hacker> lan ibneler
[05:54] <shocktrooper1> how to detect available ddr?
[05:55] <diezare> do anyone know how to siwtch tabs in irc underterminal?
[05:56] <Healot> using iirc?
[05:56] <diezare> irc
[05:57] <Healot> which client, you mfsb?
[05:57] <diezare> i write the command irc
[05:58] <notech> shocktrooper1: for what?
[05:58] <Healot> if you write the program, you should know better
[05:58] <diezare> what do you mean by if i write the program, you mean if i programed it?!
[05:59] <shocktrooper1> notech, I just installed extra ddr and want to make sure it is detected.
[05:59] <notech> shocktrooper1: oh, motherboard ram. try 'top' or 'free'
[06:00] <diezare> dude, i just open the terminal and write the command irc, and everything goes fine and easy except when i want to open more than one channel, i can't move through the tabs. do u know how?
[06:00] <Healot> you meant "type"?
[06:01] <diezare> yes.
[06:01] <Healot> we don'
[06:01] <Healot> t write in shell, we type some command there :)
[06:01] <shocktrooper1> I don't think its detected.
[06:01] <diezare> Oh!, sry.
[06:01] <arkygeek> hi everyone.  i have been trying for about 4 days to solve my heat issue running kubuntu on my nec i-selct laptop.  can anyone help me out?  I am running dapper
[06:02] <arkygeek> also, i get no acpi features in kde
[06:02] <diezare> anyway, do u know how i can move through these tabs?
[06:03] <Healot> type /help diezare
[06:03] <notech> shocktrooper1: top will show a memory total. only you know what it should say
[06:03] <arkygeek> diezare: tabs in what software?
[06:03] <Healot> look out for the command list
[06:03] <shocktrooper1> notech, should I add mem and swap together?
[06:03] <diezare> k, thnx dude.
[06:04] <notech> shocktrooper1: no, swap is drive space
[06:04] <Sarnuial> what exactly is swap anyway?
[06:04] <Sarnuial> whats it for?
[06:04] <Sarnuial> (or am i asking in the wrong place...)
[06:05] <notech> space to use if ram gets all used up
[06:05] <Healot> it's the /window command iirc you mfsob diezare ?
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ok
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ...but i thought that was "virtual memory"?
[06:05] <Healot> !swap
[06:05] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[06:05] <Sarnuial> is swap the space
[06:05] <Sarnuial> ooh i get it
[06:05] <Sarnuial> swap is the space used by virtual memory?
[06:07] <Healot> you want more?
[06:07] <Healot> !swap
[06:07] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq for more info
[06:07] <Sarnuial> not really thanks ;)
[06:08] <Healot> reverse swap, you'll get "paws"
[06:08] <Healot> mieoww
[06:08] <BKaj> woof woof !
[06:11] <Sarnuial> so just wondering, anyone care to assist me with a boot problem im having here?
[06:11] <Sarnuial> i just got my shipit cds yesterday
[06:11] <Sarnuial> (or cd)
[06:11] <root__> ciaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:12] <Sarnuial> and kubuntu freezes
[06:12] <Sarnuial> bye
[06:12] <Sarnuial> on boot
[06:12] <Sarnuial> two different computers
[06:14] <ChefWill> anyone know how to edit what programs startup when computer is booted?
[06:14] <ChefWill> for some reason 8 calculators and some other programs startup
[06:17] <Sarnuial> gtg
[06:18] <tigor> ChefWill: you mean programs that are started when a user starts a kde session? Usually KDE remembers the session data, i.e. all programs that are running on logout and restarts them the next time you log in
[06:18] <flaccid__> looks like taking acpi fixed it
[06:18] <flaccid__> it was that bug
[06:18] <flaccid__> err i mean acpi=off
[06:18] <ChefWill> tigor: yes that, how do i configure those programs?
[06:18] <ChefWill> ive tried to logout with nothing running and it doesnt save
[06:18] <tigor> just close them before you log out and the next time you log in they should stay closed
[06:19] <arso> while installing democracy player using  gdebi  i get "error dependency is not satisfiable : lilpango1.0-0" however i checked in adept, lilpango is installed
[06:19] <arso> any thoughts
[06:19] <ChefWill> already tried that
[06:19] <BKaj> it may be old arso
[06:19] <tigor> ChefWill: somewhere you can deactivate the 'save session data' thingy. Thus the current session is preseved for all next logins but I don't know where that is offhand.
[06:20] <arso> BKaj:  lilpango?
[06:20] <arso> BKaj:  how do i update it
[06:21] <tigor> ChefWill: try the K control-center: session manager there it is:"On Login: restore previous session" you could also change this to 'start with an empty session'
[06:32] <bobbyyu> I have a problem about my Adept installer
[06:33] <bobbyyu> It keeps telling me that there's an instance of the program already running, but I can't find anything
[06:33] <arkygeek> flaccid__: where do you see that option about acpi?
[06:33] <BKaj> do you have your konsole open?
[06:34] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: type with aptitude to see what it say
[06:35] <bobbyyu> I'm at aptitude
[06:35] <bobbyyu> It doesn't say anything
[06:35] <aliasfred> hmm ok
[06:35] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: last time i had this same exact trouble and it was a misconfigured package
[06:36] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:36] <aliasfred> from memory
[06:37] <Kr4t05> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Tried it
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Does something
[06:41] <bobbyyu> Shoudl I retry Adept
[06:41] <bobbyyu> ?
[06:42] <bobbyyu> Works!
[06:42] <bobbyyu> Thanks!
[06:42] <arso> how can i update
[06:42] <arso> libpango
[06:43] <aliasfred> bobbyyu: cool :)
[06:44] <trogbot> Got prob with installing printer & weird Cups/admin behavior..newbie needs help.
[06:47] <trident523> I was just using the automatix for Kubuntu, but my apt-get programs wont work any more.
[06:47] <trogbot> Install local prnt..shows there...tst print says it goes to printer...cups/jobs shows it completed...no printout?
[06:47] <aliasfred> trident523: what is automatix
[06:47] <trident523> Automatix is an installer script that sends the commands to the terminal.
[06:48] <trogbot> also cups/admin keeps asking for user/pw mult times & apparently does nothing...goes to blank page in browser?
[06:50] <trogbot> Can anyone help with above problem?
[06:51] <trident523> trogbot: I thouk you go to localhost, and some port number, that I have forgotten.
[06:51] <trident523> And, can someone help me with my stuck apt-get?
[06:52] <trogbot> go to localhost and prnt shows...admin won't let me set to default...anything.
[06:53] <trogbot> trident523: the port is 631...i've done that.
[06:53] <RogueX> can someone tell me how to mount a windows share?
[06:53] <Tm_T> !samba
[06:53] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:53] <Tm_T> RogueX: there you go ;)
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: mount -t smbfs (the syntax can be found out from smbmount --help)
[06:54] <trogbot> trident523: cups/admin is just acting squirly...i've re-installed, but did not help.
[06:54] <RogueX> Tm_T: Thanks
[06:55] <trogbot> trident523: if i can get printer to work locally and with my home network w/win user's...bye,bye...windows.
[06:55] <RogueX> I was trying to use gui smb4k
[06:56] <RogueX> but it says smbmnt must be installed suid root
[06:57] <RogueX> any ideas?
[06:58] <RogueX> but it says smbmnt must be installed suid root?
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: that is to find out the options
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: sudo mount -t smbfs
[06:59] <Kr4t05> I wonder if someone would ever consider porting KDE to Windows as a replacement for Explorer...
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> Kr4t05: qt on windows is commercial
[07:00] <Kr4t05> h3sp4wn: ah
[07:01] <BKaj> not until windows dumps it's use of the registry
[07:01] <BKaj> or finds a better way
[07:02] <trident523> Still... my apt-get is locked... and I've restarted the computer many times. What should I do?
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> trident523: remove the lock sudo rm /path/to/lockfile (it tells you where it is)
[07:04] <trident523> h3sp4wn: No such directory
[07:05] <trappist> kde can run on windows via cygwin
[07:05] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I was able to mount using Konqueror...
[07:05] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: :)
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: And then (I expect from experience) you will try to stream an mp3 from the share and then it won't work (then you will have to do it the other way)
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: I just prefer it to happen away from kde
[07:07] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: nope.. but I did copy the .mp3 to the local machine.. :)
[07:07] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I agree and as soon as I figure out how to do it the other way I will :)
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: If you use mount -t smbfs then you can just leave them on the remote drive
[07:08] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: I was copying them to the local machine (laptop) to take with me.
[07:08] <h3sp4wn> mount -t smbfs //TRITON/UsbDisk /media/samba -o username=h3sp4wn (try something like that)
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> (the first part being the netbios path)
[07:09] <MasterRobie> Hey firefox appears on the lists, only faded out. Any ideas of what I can do? Thanks in advance guys.
[07:09] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: thank you.  any idea how to unmount from Konqueror?  LOL
[07:09] <ricardo> has anybody tried to share mails between linux and windows (using firebird for instance)?? i was thinking about a FAT32 shared partition....
[07:09] <the_hammer> good day
[07:09] <h3sp4wn> RogueX: No idea
[07:10] <Tommy2k4>  gdam-common depends on xlib6g;
[07:10] <Tommy2k4> anyone know where i can get that
[07:12] <trident523> h3sp4wn: I hav removes all of the lock files in or around the deb and apt folders, to no avail.
[07:12] <aliasfred> timo__: thru adept :)
[07:12] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: Thanks for all your help.. Leaving for Vac now for a week... woohooo...  lol
[07:12] <aliasfred> Tommy2k4:
[07:13] <RogueX> h3sp4wn: then the following week to Vegas for Blackhat.. :)
[07:13] <ricardo> sorry to repeat....but...
[07:13] <ricardo> sorry to repeat....but...
[07:13] <ricardo> has anybody tried to share mails between linux and windows (using firebird for instance)?? i was thinking about a FAT32 shared partition....
[07:13] <apokryphos> !repeat
[07:13] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:13] <apokryphos> ricardo: :)
[07:14] <trident523> !patience
[07:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:14] <MasterRobie> !patience
[07:14] <ricardo> ok sorry guys.....i thought nobody was listening....(snif)...
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> trident523: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock (maybe
[07:15] <aliasfred> btw is there a tutorial on 'how to ask question efficiently' ? if not, it would be good to have. most people coming here are willing to do good, but many has no clue on how to describe efficiently their problem
[07:16] <h3sp4wn> aliasfred: There is a thing by eric raymond about asking good questions
[07:16] <ricardo> aliasfred: i could rephrase my question but i am afraid of being banned....
[07:16] <trident523> h3sp4wn: No go. I'm going to try to restart, and see if that helps.
[07:16] <v3ctor> http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:16] <aliasfred> ricardo: from 1000miles, what you are trying to do seems a bad idea, aka it is unlikely to work, the usual solution to share between the 2, is to have a imap server storing the data
[07:16] <aliasfred> ricardo: you wont be banned from here, except if you really try very hard :)
[07:17] <h3sp4wn> trident523: If you have already restarted more than once its unlikely to change anything
[07:18] <knapp> Anyone heree?
[07:18] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <- this one
[07:18] <h3sp4wn> I think so
[07:18] <aliasfred> h3sp4wn: it seems good but it is too long :)
[07:18] <SoLo18> me to
[07:19] <aliasfred> i should do a summary in a ubuntu wiki somewhere :)
[07:19] <SoLo18> who is nice to help me to instal Avast plss
[07:19] <SoLo18> ?
[07:19] <v3ctor> it is good being long
[07:19] <SoLo18> i`m  new
[07:20] <ricardo> aliasfred: thanks...ill google about that...
[07:20] <v3ctor> takes them a while to get back to bugging you with non-smart questions
[07:20] <aliasfred> v3ctor: or they just dont read it and come anyway :)
[07:22] <trident523> Didnt work.
[07:22] <aliasfred> my point is more 'get a smooth and efficient relationship between the helpees and the helpers' than 'keep the beginers out' :)
[07:23] <aliasfred> get a smooth and efficient relationship between the helpees and the helpers <- wow this is a sentence :) :)
[07:23] <v3ctor> odds are that if they wereto lazy do most of the research described on that page, they are too lazy to read that page
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> agreed
[07:23] <knapp> I need help
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> knapp: read this first http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:25] <BKaj> I have a frozen app which the kill signal can't shut down
[07:25] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: kill -9 ?
[07:25] <BKaj> what's -9 ?
[07:25] <aliasfred> look at its window with real angry eyes, sometimes it helps :)
[07:25] <BKaj> :)
[07:26] <v3ctor> -9 == kill with no remorse
[07:26] <aliasfred> -9 = sigkill = do your best to really kill it to the death
[07:26] <aliasfred> some cases remain where -9 doesnt kill but it is rare
[07:26] <v3ctor> try to end process without concern for data or the state of the process
[07:26] <aliasfred> do 'kill -l' to see the list
[07:27] <aliasfred> or 'man kill'
[07:27] <Chousuke> -9 doesn't kill if the process isn't alive.
[07:27] <Chousuke> ie, if it's a zombie.
[07:27] <Chousuke> :)~
[07:27] <Chousuke> -~
[07:27] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> SIGSTKFLT (what does that do ?)
[07:28] <aliasfred> wild guess, when the stack grow and ask for more memory
[07:28] <aliasfred> like 'do sbrk now' or i will cry
[07:29] <v3ctor>  STKFLT         exit      may not be implemented
[07:29] <aliasfred> good man page :)
[07:29] <h3sp4wn> typical - route flush is not even implimented  in linux
[07:29] <knapp> I accidentally removed kdesktop, but when I try to reinstall it it says it depends on kdesktop-bin, but it will not be installed. Its says E: Broken Packages
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Oh I can get X.org to flip out and use 100% of my CPU and kill -9 doesn't kill it and it's not a zombie
[07:30] <BKaj> dumped the app , should n't have installed it anyway - frostwire ...crap
[07:30] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: type 'ctrl-alt-backspace' at the same time
[07:30] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: this 'reboot' X
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Keyboard dies
[07:31] <v3ctor> h3sp4wn: sometimes it's just new manpages are not im plemented ;)
[07:31] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: what about numlock/capslock ? the led are still working ?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> knapp: try apt-get -f install
[07:31] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: Nope
[07:31] <DaSkreech> I can SSH in though
[07:31] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: ok guru solution :) 'press the big red button'
[07:31] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: That's what I do
[07:31] <h3sp4wn> v3ctor: sometimes but I wish route flush was implimented (probably should use ip instead though)
[07:32] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: ah ok if ssh work, it is only X which is dead, and the keyboard is grabbed by X so it is no more wokring
[07:32] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: in theory it is possible to kill it but complex, easier to reboot
[07:33] <knapp> DaSkreech: That did it, thanks
[07:33] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: tell me about it
[07:33] <DaSkreech> knapp: :-)
[07:33] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: well you look at process which take 100% and do kill -9 on them
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: I think some other things were removed too, how can I get those back?
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you start killing process you dont like :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> knapp: Do you know what they were?
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: I removed one package and it removed konquere, kdesktop, and like 20 others
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you change your video card driver :)
[07:34] <DaSkreech> knapp: Try install kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <knapp> DaSkreech: ok
[07:34] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: I reinstalled :)
[07:34] <aliasfred> then you may play with some svga stuff to reboot your screen to a normal state :)
[07:35] <aliasfred> i told you it was complex :)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Which for somereason messed up my hard drive :-(
[07:36] <knapp> DaSkreech: libdrm2 was the package I removed
[07:36] <knapp> DaSkreech: Is there anywhere I can look at a log of what was done?
[07:36] <knapp> apt log of some sort
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Ermm not sure knapp.
[07:36] <Kr4t05> Time to get XGL working again.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Yeah ... I'm sure :-)
[07:38] <DaSkreech> knapp: /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:38] <BKaj> will XGL work on elcheapo ati onboard video xpress 200 ?
[07:38] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: Using fglrx or radeon
[07:38] <BKaj> fglrx
[07:40] <Tommy2k4> configure: error: QTDIR must be properly set.
[07:40] <Tommy2k4> how do i set that
[07:41] <Kr4t05> BKaj: with some extra work.
[07:41] <Kr4t05> BKaj: NVIDIA is usually easier to work with, though.
[07:42] <BKaj> hmmm looked in the hardware section and it says the driver is ati
[07:43] <BKaj> i know when I first configged the monitor res the driver was fglrx
[07:44] <BKaj> Kr4t05:  but I did a driver update since
[07:44] <aliasfred> how do i launch gdb without loading all the symbol in ram ?
[07:45] <aliasfred> my turn to get answered! :)
[07:49] <_chris> can someone help me?
[07:49] <_chris> im trying to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06, but i dont know what it means to change "breezy" to "dapper" in the Adept package manager
[07:50] <aliasfred> yep this 'howtoaskquestion' pages seems neeeded :)
[07:50] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[07:50] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:54] <musiclinux> Kr4t05: thanks for your help earlier with the 15-26 kernel. I installed my nvidia drivers again and everything is great!
[07:55] <musiclinux> _chris: got it sorted now?
[07:55] <musiclinux> _chris: if not let me know and i'll walk you through it
[07:55] <Jack1> is someone experienced with making a nokia mobile connectable via bluetooth?
[07:55] <Jack1> to dapper?
[08:03] <Harmental> .
[08:03] <Harmental> hi everybody
[08:05] <Harmental> i was wondering if it is possible to make firestarter load at startup automatically without requiring root password (same for kopete)....
[08:05] <will> anyone have a method of picture sharing that they like?
[08:05] <will> On windows I was using Picasa for emailing pics and kodak easyshare for posting on the web
[08:06] <abattoir> will: there is picasa for linux
[08:06] <will> Im planningon installing picasa (which runs on whine and mozilla) but wanted to see if anyone recommends otherwise first
[08:06] <abattoir> will: oh ok
[08:06] <will> abattoir: do you use picasa?
[08:07] <abattoir> will: only picasaweb... i havent tried the desktop software yet
[08:07] <abattoir> but if you want online integration, i dont know what else is there
[08:08] <abattoir> there is digikam, but i dont think it has all these fancy online sharing features
[08:08] <abattoir> !digikam
[08:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about digikam - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:08] <abattoir> !info digikam
[08:08] <ubotu> digikam: digital photo management application for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 4077 kB, installed size 9724 kB
[08:09] <abattoir> will: http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/features08x
[08:09] <diego_cl> how can i share the internet connection with a microsoft net  ? !? !? !
[08:09] <serenity> http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/4382/kuxbuntudm5.png
[08:10] <diego_cl> im already sharing the connection when i boot to windows xp, but i want do the same with kubuntu
[08:11] <BKaj> Can someone tell me what Xen actaully is ...somekind of fancy graphics for the desktop ?
[08:11] <abattoir> !xen
[08:11] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[08:11] <serenity> !xgl
[08:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:11] <serenity> that what you might think
[08:14] <rolando> hi
[08:14] <serenity> hi
[08:14] <osh_> !vmware
[08:14] <will> abattoir: thanks, but I think you're right.  It doesn't seem to support emailing photos
[08:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[08:14] <rolando> i have windows in one partition, /home in another and / in another
[08:14] <diego_cl> how can i share my internet connection with ubuntu to a windows ?!  !?
[08:14] <will> I think I'll try picasa out.
[08:14] <rolando> can i install kubuntu over mandriva?
[08:14] <rolando> without problems?
[08:14] <abattoir> will: :)
[08:15] <abattoir> rolando: you want to remove Mandriva?
[08:15] <rolando> yes
[08:15] <abattoir> or install Kubuntu alongside it?
[08:15] <rolando> but would like to keep al the .folders
[08:15] <rolando> want just kubuntu
[08:15] <abattoir> rolando: you mean your home directory?
[08:15] <rolando> yes
[08:15] <abattoir> is it in another partition?
[08:15] <rolando> can i keep it?
[08:15] <abattoir> or in the same on?
[08:15] <abattoir> *one?
[08:15] <rolando> different
[08:16] <will> abattoir: should I be able to find picasa in adept?
[08:16] <will> abattoir: (because I can't)
[08:16] <abattoir> rolando: i dont think so, its not FOSS
[08:16] <rolando> Foss??
[08:16] <abattoir> ugh sorry, that was for will
[08:16] <abattoir> Free and Open Source software
[08:16] <will> !info foss
[08:16] <ubotu> Package foss does not exist in dapper
[08:16] <abattoir> !foss
[08:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about foss - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:16] <diego_cl> what is the command to login freenode ?
[08:16] <rolando> the download google provides is very easy to install
[08:17] <abattoir> rolando: it might not be impossible, but its definitely not recommended
[08:17] <will> abattoir: what is foss?
[08:17] <abattoir> open source software :)
[08:17] <_chris> thank you so much for the help, linux rules
[08:17] <rolando> abattoir: why not? how can i keep my bookmarcs, emails ,etc?
[08:17] <will> abattoir: thx.  trying to learn the language
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: hmmm, you *can* manually copy those files...
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: as i said, if you have a different /home partition, its possible
[08:18] <will> abattoir: software for ubuntu works just as well for kubuntu.  correct?
[08:18] <rolando> when installing kubuntu, can i tell it NOT to format /home partition?
[08:18] <abattoir> will: yes :)
[08:18] <rolando> ok
[08:18] <will> abattoir: is all debian software cross compatable?
[08:18] <rolando> ill burn the cd and proceed with the instalation
[08:18] <abattoir> rolando: of course you can, but there are settings under your home folder..
[08:19] <rolando> thanx
[08:19] <rolando> i will just copy those i want
[08:19] <abattoir> will: not *all* there are many packages that are debian/ubuntu specific
[08:19] <rolando> like .mozilla
[08:19] <rolando> .kopete
[08:19] <rolando> etc
[08:19] <abattoir> rolando: that's a good idea :)
[08:19] <BKaj> abattoir: so Xen and VMWare are similar , except Xen can't do windows in Linux
[08:19] <diego_cl> I NEED HELP SETTING UP MY NETWORK ! ! !
[08:19] <rolando> aaaaaadios
[08:20] <abattoir> BKaj: hmmm, i havent tried Xen, But VMWare and Qemu work for me
[08:20] <abattoir> !qemu
[08:20] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[08:20] <Chousuke> BKaj: Xen can do windows AFAIK, but you need a VT enabled processor for it.
[08:20] <serenity> http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/4382/kuxbuntudm5.png what do you think of this?
[08:21] <Chousuke> BKaj: Xen is also faster than VMware or QEMU
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Kubuntuer's :)
[08:21] <Tm_T> serenity: interesting, though colours :/
[08:21] <Tm_T> serenity: soe blue please ;)
[08:21] <Tm_T> s/soe/some/
[08:22] <serenity> Tm_T: like the original ubuntu logo
[08:22] <serenity> only warm colors
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: true
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/k-ed-ubuntu/images.html
[08:22] <Tm_T> serenity: something I played around some time ago
[08:23] <serenity> Tm_T: also very nice...just 10 min doodling with gimp, just as proposal
[08:24] <Tm_T> serenity: ugh, interesting subject to play around
[08:24] <Harmental> hi everybody
[08:24] <Harmental> i was wondering if it is possible to make firestarter load at startup automatically without requiring root password (same for kopete)....
[08:24] <serenity> Tm_T: ugh?
[08:24] <Tm_T> serenity: imo we should show thru artwork that we are all one big *ubuntu family :)
[08:25] <Tm_T> serenity: "yes"
[08:25] <serenity> Tm_T: yipp, ur right. We all share the same system core
[08:25] <Tm_T> yes
[08:26] <mehdigrenoble_> bonjour
[08:27] <mehdigrenoble_> j'aimerais savoir si il y a un grabit sous linux ?
[08:27] <Harmental> mehdigrenoble_: tu travailles au cea?
[08:28] <mehdigrenoble_> On ce connait ?
[08:29] <Healot> !fr
[08:29] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:29] <cristiano> hello all
[08:29] <cristiano> i have a prob with apache2 on kubuntu
[08:29] <cristiano> i've installed all the packages required from the repos
[08:30] <mehdigrenoble_> sorry i tought im in _fr
[08:30] <cristiano> but when i give "apache2" in command line it says "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName"
[08:30] <BKaj> mehdigrenoble_: grabit pour IRC ?
[08:30] <cristiano> and then "(13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80"
[08:30] <Healot> non probleme... mehdigrenoble_
[08:31] <trappist> cristiano: you start it via /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:31] <mehdigrenoble_> yes
[08:31] <cristiano> and "no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[08:31] <trappist> cristiano: it has to launch as root to bind to a low port, then it runs as www-data.
[08:31] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Yo
[08:31] <cristiano> trappist so there is no way to make it start at boot?
[08:32] <trappist> cristiano: sure.  update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[08:32] <BKaj> Il ya des scripts pour grabit cedependant que irc client
[08:32] <trogbot> Can anyone tell me where firefox pw lists..bookmarks...key3.db, etc. files are kept.
[08:32] <cristiano> trappist it looks like it isn't working yet...
[08:33] <mehdigrenoble_> i hear about klibido
[08:33] <cristiano> i mean when i give "localhost" in my browser it gives me an error
[08:33] <trappist> cristiano: try <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:33] <cristiano> done no success at allo trappist
[08:33] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: How goes it?
[08:33] <trappist> cristiano: also, did you start it with /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Healot: Know any Decent howtos on setting up a gateway?
[08:34] <diego_cl> i found some help in google, thanks
[08:34] <trappist> DaSkreech: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[08:35] <DaSkreech> trappist: Hey! I Know kung Fu!
[08:35] <trappist> :)
[08:35] <trogbot> Can anyone tell me where firefox pw lists..bookmarks...key3.db, etc. files are kept.
[08:35] <diego_cl> is there a task administrator in kubuntu  ?!
[08:35] <DaSkreech> diego_cl: Hey that's a pretty useful link :)
[08:35] <cristiano> trappist yep i did it, now however it looks like it's working...strange thing....mmmm...guessing what happened!
[08:35] <DaSkreech> trogbot: ~/.mozilla
[08:36] <diego_cl> is there a task administrator in kubuntu  ?!
[08:36] <trappist> diego_cl: what does that mean.
[08:36] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  What are the files in /etc/firefox/profile?
[08:36] <diego_cl> sometimes i open programs and they dissapear
[08:36] <cristiano> diego_cl: u mean a "process manager"?
[08:36] <Jack1> is there a way to implement a standby modus to kubuntu?
[08:37] <mehdigrenoble_> someone have fr link
[08:37] <cristiano> diego_cl: if u are lookin for the process currently running just press CTRL+ESC
[08:37] <DaSkreech> trogbot: Default files. Like in /etc/skel
[08:38] <DaSkreech> trogbot: They get copied everytime you create a new profile
[08:38] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  Thanks.
[08:38] <bastiq> I believe my updater has gone crazy. I got some problems whie i updated with it earlier s i quit it. Now it says another program is using the packaging manager. I have tried to reboot
[08:38] <mehdigrenoble_> i see
[08:38] <DaSkreech> bastiq: try dpkg --configure -a
[08:38] <DaSkreech> hi gatekeeper
[08:39] <mehdigrenoble_> bon ben  puisque que le irc french n'existe pas on cauer de la marseillaise
[08:39] <DaSkreech> !fr
[08:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:39] <ponce> Hello! i need help.. I'm sure it's easy, but I don't know the name of the package to apt-get
[08:39] <gatekeeper> Hi DaSkreech how are you doing
[08:39] <mehdigrenoble_> Merci
[08:39] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Not bad
[08:39] <ponce> how do I get support for other languages??
[08:39] <bastiq> Ahhh... Thanks DaSkreech.
[08:40] <mehdigrenoble_> bye
[08:40] <DaSkreech> bastiq: Sure
[08:40] <gatekeeper> ponce: in irc?
[08:41] <ponce> no, just for KDE
[08:41] <Jack1> hi can one activate hibernate and suspend in dapper?
[08:41] <bastiq> It failed on sun-java5-plugin
[08:41] <diego_cl> THANKS CRISTIANO, i was looking for that
[08:41] <ponce> you know, I'm installing Kubuntu in a friend's computer
[08:41] <cristiano> diego_cl: u r welcome ;)
[08:42] <gatekeeper> ponce: it will give you a language to choose as part of the installation process
[08:42] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  I've got a mozilla-thunderbird folder under /etc....but nothing is in it.  I'm trying to get my saved ff stuff into linux ff.
[08:42] <ponce> and he can't speak english... I'd like to switch into spanish, but language packages are not installed
[08:44] <bastiq> I get this. dpkg: dependanceproblems prevents configuration of sun-java5-plugin: (i suck at translating)
[08:45] <trogbot> DaSkreech:  Nevermind...think i found it.
[08:46] <Healot> !multiverse
[08:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:46] <gatekeeper> ponce: there is lots of stuff to do with languages in the repos
[08:46] <gatekeeper> !language
[08:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <gatekeeper> nope not that one silly bot :-)
[08:47] <gatekeeper> !language-support
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about language-support - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ponce> :)
[08:47] <trogbot> !firefox
[08:47] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:47] <Generic> is it just me, or does youtube not sync up in linux
[08:48] <GIGANTOR> generic- i'm having problems with that same thing. It's some kind of flash issue, i think
[08:48] <bastiq> is apt-get dist-upgrade -f a good idea or does it mess something up?
[08:49] <Ashex> Yeah, it drives me nuts
[08:49] <Ashex> especially since everyone hosts their videos on youtube :/
[08:49] <ponce> GIGANTOR, that's happening to me too, (using firefox and slackware)
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> good, i was wondering if i was the only one  ;P
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> same, using firefox with it
[08:49] <Ashex> I've tried using Konqueror, but no luck
[08:49] <GIGANTOR> *scraches chin*
[08:49] <Ashex> and there's no native .flv player :/
[08:50] <GIGANTOR> afk one sec, phone
[08:50] <bastiq> Whats wrong with the sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-06-1_i386.deb packade?
[08:50] <bastiq> package*
[08:52] <Ashex> bastiq, you tell me :P
[08:52] <bastiq> Kill me. I had to scroll to the bottom of the licence agreement and accept before pressing next :P
[08:52] <GIGANTOR> back
[08:53] <GIGANTOR> lol bas
[08:53] <bastiq> Not enough with that they hid the agree button quite well. They made it possible to press next before accepting it too :P
[08:55] <Ashex> hmm
[08:55] <Ashex> maybe installing a flv player in wine and running that?
[08:56] <patrick__> How can you open ports on the firewall in kubuntu?
[08:57] <jamardi> hi
[08:58] <Ashex> !tell patrick_  about iptables
[08:58] <Ashex> !iptable
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about iptable - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:58] <Ashex> bah
[08:58] <Ashex> uboto, you suck
[08:58] <Healot> !iptables
[08:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[08:59] <Healot> Ashex: you s :)
[08:59] <Ashex> I didn't get a notification from ubotu the first time :P
[09:03] <patrick__> Does firestarter automatically oversride the other firewall?
[09:03] <h3sp4wn> patrick__: firestarter just is a gui for the other firewall
[09:04] <SoLo18> who knows how to install ircu<IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:04] <gatekeeper> patrick_hiya h3sp4wn how are you doing?
[09:05] <gatekeeper> ooops I'll try again
[09:05] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn how are you doing?
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> Alive
[09:05] <h3sp4wn> Not tired  - so pretty well
[09:05] <luc45> lol
[09:06] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: good to hear, a bit cooler here tonight which is nice :-)
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: Definately
[09:07] <thompa> i cant play any mp3s for some reason, they open in amarok and just sit there
[09:07] <luc45> !mp3
[09:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <thompa> luc45: ive tried all that
[09:08] <Ashex> have you tried it in other players?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> thompa: you running the xine engine or something else?
[09:08] <Ashex> like xmms or mplayer or something of that sort?
[09:09] <thompa> ive installed xine yes, im on the 64 bit version of ubuntu if that matters
[09:09] <Ashex> thompa, have you played the files in another player?
[09:09] <GIGANTOR> how do you do an action in IRC
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> like if i wanna slap someone with a trout..
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> i haven't used IRC since before AOL
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> =\
[09:10] <luc45> GIGANTOR use /me
[09:10] <GIGANTOR> *before AOL ever came out
[09:11] <GIGANTOR> =)
[09:11] <GIGANTOR> thanks luc
[09:11] <luc45> yw
[09:11] <diego_cl> I NEED TO SHARE MY CONNECTION !
[09:11] <thompa> Ashex: ive tried all the players, it opens but does not move forward/play
[09:11] <Ashex> crap, i just bought a 12 pack of coke yesterday and i only have 2 left :/
[09:11] <diego_cl> how can i share my connection?   I have 2 netcards
[09:11] <thompa> Ashex: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is installed
[09:11] <Ashex> thompa, have you confirmed that you have sound playing?
[09:11] <gatekeeper> Ashex: that what 36.3C does to you :-)
[09:12] <thompa> Ashex: well i hear system sounds, maybe i will restart the hardware sound
[09:12] <luc45> thompa: r u using 6.06
[09:12] <luc45> thompa: ?
[09:13] <thompa> yes, its the 64 version
[09:13] <luc45> thompa: then u dont need gstreamer
[09:13] <luc45> thompa: plz read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:13] <thompa> i installed everything i could from the restricted formats page, which has a few errors on it btw
[09:14] <Ashex> I purchased some new hardware, cpu, mobo, and hd
[09:14] <Ashex> Will kubuntu boot up on the new mobo
[09:14] <Ashex> or will it require some play work
[09:14] <luc45> thompa: lol just install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs libarts1-mpeglib libakode2-mpeg
[09:16] <thompa> libarts was not installed, the other stuff is sort of
[09:17] <thompa> luc45: do you prefer amarok?
[09:17] <luc45> thompa: now update amarok
[09:17] <luc45> thompa: yes
[09:17] <thompa> luc45: how do i update amarok,
[09:18] <luc45> thompa: you can use adept
[09:18] <thompa> luc45: do you mean reinstall it?
[09:18] <Tommy2k4> are special window settings lost when i close the window
[09:18] <luc45> thompa no
[09:19] <thompa> luc45: everything is updated already
[09:19] <luc45> thompa: have you got universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:19] <thompa> yes
[09:19] <luc45> allright
[09:20] <thompa> si i click on the mp3 i downloaded for free
[09:20] <MadRush> ah if i do modprobe (modulename) ... should i get some thing on the next line?
[09:20] <MadRush> i know if you do modprobe and put a module name you dont have, it will complain, but if its one you do have, what does it do?
[09:20] <thompa> amarok does nothing, it sits in bottom corner, i can see the track
[09:20] <orey> hey
[09:21] <thompa> ive tried double clicking on it and right clicking to play
[09:21] <luc45> thompa: try other player
[09:21] <orey> right click
[09:22] <orey> or restart
[09:22] <thompa> kaffeine wont play either, it says play then stop real quick
[09:22] <notech> MadRush: if no response then it loaded it successfully
[09:23] <thompa> amarok sucks
[09:23] <thompa> especially if you have to click around more than any windows app
[09:23] <tim_> I installed ubuntu yesterday. I can access my window shares via SMB and printer just fine.
[09:24] <MadRush> thanks notech
[09:24] <illatitante> why when i try to install ubuntu appear this: could not find kernel image /casper/.vml ?????
[09:24] <tim_> But I can't access the shared out folders on my Linux system from my Windows machines
[09:24] <Ashex> thompa, this is a stretch, but if you have a usb thumbdrive
[09:24] <tim_> it requests a password
[09:24] <Ashex> drop a song on it and try playing from there
[09:24] <tim_> so I try my Linux username and password
[09:24] <tim_> but that doesn't work
[09:25] <tim_> I think I need to edit the smb file
[09:25] <Ashex> tim_, you need to add a user and password to samba
[09:25] <Ashex> !samba
[09:25] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:25] <thompa> Ashex: all the players gor right from play to stop no matter what mp3 i throw at them
[09:25] <tim_> can I not have the windows machines on my internal lan
[09:25] <tim_> access as guests?
[09:25] <Ashex> thompa, i know, but try loading it from an alternate partition, such as a thumbdrive
[09:25] <tim_> and not require a password
[09:25] <tim_> for those folders
[09:25] <thompa> is is a problem with 64 bit install maybe
[09:25] <tim_> that I choose?
[09:26] <Ashex> Amarok won't play any songs from my main partition but it'll play from my ntfs drive just fine
[09:26] <Ashex> so, it may be a similar problem
[09:26] <thompa> i got windows partition
[09:26] <Ashex> try #amarok
[09:27] <GIGANTOR> man, i love showing off xgl-compiz
[09:27] <tim_> okay, I'll look at the Ubuntu docs on SMB ... thank you for your help. :-)
[09:27] <gatekeeper> these all 64bit problems?
[09:27] <GIGANTOR> >:)
[09:28] <GIGANTOR> everybody at work thinks i'm uber-elite
[09:28] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[09:28] <Kr4t05> GIGANTOR: I would, but I'
[09:28] <Kr4t05> am too lazy :P
[09:28] <thompa> vlc is at leat playing a track but no sound
[09:28] <gatekeeper> tim_: if you have samba installed you can use use the gui to configure K -> System Settings -> Sharing
[09:28] <notech> elite? it doesn't help get any work done.
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> lol, it doesn't matter to them
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> it's linux...  it's scary and crazy
[09:29] <Kr4t05> !games
[09:29] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> now they all want me to install a dual boot for em
[09:29] <GIGANTOR> ;P
[09:29] <thompa> WORKS
[09:30] <thompa> Ashex: i had to change hardware to alsa, now it works
[09:30] <GIGANTOR> i think i'm going to switch some of my servers over to linux here at work, just...  ya know...  to ensure my job securitah
[09:31] <thompa> at least vlc works, amarok is a problem
[09:31] <GIGANTOR> while i'm thinking about it, does anyone know if the .net framework functions properly in Wine?
[09:31] <Benan> Hi, can some one tell me the URL for a Kubuntu installation guide???
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> Benan, what do you need help with?
[09:32] <Benan> I need a Kubuntu installation guide :)
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> lol
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> click install
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> choose your language
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> er..
[09:32] <Benan> Its not for me
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> then the partition bit... is that your problem?
[09:32] <Benan> Its for some guy..
[09:32] <GIGANTOR> oh ok, lol  ;P
[09:32] <Benan> No its what hes problem is
[09:32] <linuxmonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[09:32] <Benan> I just had to help him resize hes drive
[09:32] <Benan> Cheers
[09:33] <gatekeeper> Benan: transition guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[09:33] <Benan> also, Is Unbuntu a good distro?
[09:33] <GIGANTOR> very good for teh noobers
[09:33] <Benan> well at the moment I got fedora core 5 installed
[09:34] <gatekeeper> Benan: do you want everything working 'out of the box'?
[09:34] <Benan> What do you mean "Out of the box"?
[09:34] <mo-no> tried to install firefox on my kubuntu system today, but some dependecy was missing. Smeone can help
[09:34] <GIGANTOR> mo- how did you go about it?
[09:34] <luc45> mo-no: best way is to install with adept
[09:35] <Benan> mo-no: what dependencie
[09:35] <luc45> mo-no: *easyest
[09:35] <gatekeeper> Benan: distros like PCLinuxOS come with firefox, java, flash, realplayer 10 etc already installed
[09:35] <Benan> yah so does Fedora ;]
[09:36] <mo-no> I did download the tar.gz file, unzipped it to the /opt dir and then did the link as described in some help files
[09:36] <Benan> Lets say I downloaded Unbuntu and installed it
[09:36] <Benan> Could I have, Fedora, Windows and Ubuntu going at the same time?
[09:36] <linuxmonkey> mo-no use adept
[09:36] <mo-no> I think something like libgtc ???
[09:36] <GIGANTOR> mo-no-  just use Adept this time as luc45 mentioned, it's really simple to install things with
[09:36] <Benan> on split partitions
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> look under "system" on your kmenu
[09:37] <mo-no> I tried, but it`s grayed. What can I do to select the firefox package?
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> should be first one
[09:37] <GIGANTOR> hmm...
[09:38] <thompa> i can play mp3s in rythmbox but not amarok, could it be because i got 64 bit version
[09:38] <gatekeeper> Benan: if you use virtual machines you could, other you would have to decide at boot up time which to use
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> thompa- look in adept for like an mp3 add on for amarok
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> i think that'll help ya
[09:38] <Benan> yah I know I got grub installed at the moment..
[09:38] <thompa> ok
[09:38] <GIGANTOR> just type in amarok in adept and you should see something
[09:38] <Benan> But grub is installed on MBR so if I installed unbuntu would it get added to the list?
[09:39] <gatekeeper> Benan: yes
[09:39] <Benan> Does ubuntu come with it own BootloadeR?
[09:40] <gatekeeper> Benan: uses grub
[09:40] <GIGANTOR> Grub
[09:40] <Benan> So I just choose NOT to installed grub again, and install Grub on a new split partition..
[09:40] <Benan> Does Ubuntu have a similar installed too Linux..
[09:40] <Benan> Fedora*
[09:41] <Kr4t05> Benan, 6.06 installs from a Live-CD environment.
[09:41] <Benan> I don't like Live CD.
[09:41] <gatekeeper> Benan: my recollection is anaconda asks more questions
[09:41] <poningru_> Benan: use alternative cd then