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[00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_filelight build #70: FAILURE in 6 min 3 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_filelight/70/
 @nggraham the muon thing reminded me of seeign some commit messages I meant to look into the other day. seems they were for this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390476
[00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kmix build #64: FAILURE in 7 min 27 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kmix/64/
 probably need to look at cherry picking that fix for libqapt
[00:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kldap build #41: FAILURE in 7 min 51 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kldap/41/
[00:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kgeography build #990: FIXED in 17 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kgeography/990/
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[00:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kompare build #57: FAILURE in 1 min 3 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kompare/57/
 @acheronuk, I can do that
 Details are on the bug?
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[00:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ktuberling build #79: FAILURE in 2 min 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ktuberling/79/
[00:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_sddm-kcm build #62: FAILURE in 3 min 0 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_sddm-kcm/62/
 found the bug tracking the use of apt-xapian-index in kubuntu-driver-manager: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1735086
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[00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_baloo-widgets build #65: FAILURE in 28 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_baloo-widgets/65/
[00:46] <valorie> that's a bit crap BR
 it is, yes
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2018-February/001245.html
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 https://contest.xubuntu.org/
 @Valoriez
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[01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kmix build #65: FIXED in 1 hr 16 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kmix/65/
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[01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_filelight build #71: FIXED in 1 hr 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_filelight/71/
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[01:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[01:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kldap build #42: FIXED in 1 hr 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kldap/42/
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[02:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ktuberling build #80: FIXED in 1 hr 14 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ktuberling/80/
[02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_dolphin-plugins build #66: FAILURE in 1 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_dolphin-plugins/66/
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[02:16] <valorie> yeah, saw that on twitter
[02:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_gwenview build #95: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 9 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_gwenview/95/
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[02:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #96: FIXED in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/96/
[02:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_dolphin-plugins build #67: FIXED in 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_dolphin-plugins/67/
[02:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[02:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kexi build #86: FIXED in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kexi/86/
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[03:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 @acheronuk
 I think for right now maybe use the plasma icon in kickoff for now.
[04:08] <valorie> omg I have asciiquarium running
[04:08] <valorie> https://cgit.kde.org/scratch/mpyne/plasma_wallpaper_asciiquarium.git/tree/README.md
[04:08] <valorie> not released yet
[04:08] <valorie> so fun
[04:08] <valorie> not released because not really done
[04:09] <valorie> no pirate ship yet
[04:09] <valorie> and the shark doesn't eat the fish
[04:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_akonadi-mime build #59: FIXED in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_akonadi-mime/59/
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[04:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[06:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[06:58] <valorie> @lazy b
[06:58] <valorie> thanks!
[06:58] <valorie> I believe you are right
[07:08] <tsimonq2> If I get a +1 from acheronuk, and he removes it from the seed, I'll file the RM bug report.
[07:09] <valorie> we talked about updating it, but dunno if anyone did
[07:09] <valorie> ahoneybun: do you remember?
[07:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[07:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_attica build #77: FIXED in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_attica/77/
[07:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdoctools build #68: FAILURE in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdoctools/68/
[07:39] <valorie> interesting look at what they are looking at for the ubuntu installer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bZ4yQIVgGaUGSYu3qiUHnQt3ieBZoqunP_DcleHCr3I/edit
[07:39] <valorie> from the thread about info gathering
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[08:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #5 for job iso_bionic_stable_amd64 (previous build: SUCCESS)
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[09:20] <yofel> @nggraham: apt-xapian-index is what kubuntu-driver-manager uses to detect the 'driver' <> 'package' mapping so pressing the install button actually does the right thing. ubuntu-drivers-common AFAIK switched to something else in 16.04, but nobody rewrote kubuntu-driver-manager yet to use the same API
[09:20] <yofel> so until that happens, xapian has to stay
[09:21] <yofel> (rebuilding the full xapian index indeed takes a long time, so that bug report is not complete rubbish)
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libkmahjongg build #81: FIXED in 29 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libkmahjongg/81/
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_sddm build #123: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_sddm/123/
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_sddm build #84: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_sddm/84/
[09:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[09:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_sddm build #35: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_sddm/35/
[09:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kscreen build #80: STILL FAILING in 4 min 52 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kscreen/80/
 https://phabricator.kde.org/T8088
 Remove flash from kubuntu-restricted-addons?
 I think we need to review this at least, as we are the only ones with it now.
[09:48] <santa_> good morning everyone
[09:49] <acheronuk> morning
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[09:58] <santa_> acheronuk: hey I've configured and started yesterday in the night the 32 bit build daemon for tritemio, so it's building everything for i386 right now. I estimate it will take ~ 2 days to complete everything so we wil have it available for the next frameworks version
[09:58] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/
[09:59] <santa_> the new setup is almost ready to be documented in that guide, but I would need to perfect a couple of things first
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[10:07] <yofel> santa_: can that use remote builders? (Linode has plenty of spare capacity if you need CPU time)
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[10:15] <santa_> yofel: it's a custom wannabuild setup, so yes, you could distribute several builldds in various different machines. however:
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[10:16] <santa_> 1. you would need how to set up a buildd and that's why I'm working on a guide
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[10:18] <santa_> 2. I wouldn't do that, instead I would train Rik to deploy the whole thing in a team maintained machine and I would leave my server for personal experimentation
[10:19] <yofel> ok, sounds good, thanks
[10:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:21] <santa_> 3. CPU is not the bottle-neck these days but the number hard disks; i.e. with kde's massive splitting of git repos (resulting in split source packages) the trend is that package building takes more time harassing hard disks and less time harassing the CPU's
[10:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[10:22] <yofel> true that
[10:22] <santa_> so in order to improve performance the best thing to have is multiple buildds
[10:23] <santa_> so to do that you need RAM and one dedicated hard disk per buildd
[10:26] <santa_> I have some spare disks in that server and I think I could get an extra module of RAM so I could set up one or two more buildds to work in parallel
[10:27] <santa_> I didn't do that yet because I was focused on getting the thing working, so I just have only 1 buildd working in parallel
[10:29] <santa_> btw you may type "gkrellm -s gpul.grupos.udc.es -p 19150" in your console to see lively the resource usage
[10:29] <santa_> that port is temporarily open because I'm watching the thing myself
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[10:30] <yofel> agreed. Lets get it working reliably first, then see how to set it up for real. Linode has plenty of memory and runs on an SSD, so it should be able to handle something like 4 builders with -j3 (giving it 7 cores)
[10:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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 @ahoneybun, A problem making a kubuntu one?
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 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-mate.bionic/revision/169
 Apparently that's the file we need in Kubuntu for the minimal install option...
[13:02] <yofel> that sounds really annoying to maintain.. But maybe we should throw all non-kde things out?
 @acheronuk, After 18.04 :P
 I meant for the minimal
 Oh :D
 though the temptation to just do it completely is STRONG!
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[13:16] <yofel> what happened to the akonadi rewrite anyway? I remember someone working on that - like a couple... years... ago...
 probably on the same shelf as amarok
[13:18] <acheronuk> ooh. network manager finally migrated. can check on tomorrows iso to see if that really fixes the entering wifi pw twice bug
 (I'm betting it won't, sadly)
[13:19] <acheronuk> yeah. I have a feeling that may be the case :/
[13:24] <blaze> akonadi-next now is called sink
 sunk?
[13:25] <blaze> the latest release was somewhere around christmas
[13:25] <yofel> sounds like it's still sinking
 yeah. I joke. it's in KCI for kube I think
[13:26] <yofel> well, nice to see on phab that there's activity.
[13:26] <yofel> thanks for the pointer
 clive was doing that mostly
 I'm fine with Thunderbird
[13:27] <yofel> same
[13:39] <blaze> acheronuk: you can be a hero of the local newspaper headline: A Man Who is Fine with XUL
 @valorie, Don't remove it.
 @acheronuk, No update yet. I can't seem to pay someone to do it...
 Right
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[15:07] <jmux> Hi. LibreOffice is seeing many crashes on Kubuntu 17.10 with kde4 backend since this weekend: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98776
[15:08] <jmux> Do you know anything in particular, that has changed this weekend in the repository? Is there a way too look for these updates?
[15:10] <jmux> We got something like 10-20 uplicates this weekend but since there wasn't any LO change, my guess is some 17.10 update started to break things.
[15:11] <acheronuk> jmux: ubuntu updated libreoffice to 1:5.4.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:11] <jmux> The crash seems to be in KFileDialog::KFileDialog backtrace is in https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=140137
[15:12] <jmux> acheronuk: yeah, but that is just a fix for calc for the CVE
[15:12] <jmux> acheronuk: and that was released 13 Feb 2018
[15:13] <acheronuk> jmux: no, it was published to updates/security pocket on on 2018-02-21
[15:13] <jmux> acheronuk: but that's just from the changelog - is there a way to see, when a package was promoted from proposed to security?
[15:14] <acheronuk> jmux: as above. let me get the link
[15:14] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:5.4.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:15] <acheronuk> jmux: https://i.imgur.com/I3IWZoY.png
[15:17] <jmux> acheronuk: hmm - ok. Users claim the crashes started 2018-02-22 - that's indeed suspicious
[15:17]  * jmux has to get a 17.10 install
 acheronuk: Do we have 6.0 yet?
[15:19] <acheronuk> jmux and pushing history said it went from 5.4.2 to 5.4.5 in the actual release pockets (intervening versions didn't make it), so that is a lot of code change on top of just the CVEs
[15:19] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: that is in -proposed for bionic
[15:19] <acheronuk> still with kde4 front-end, sadly :(
 Nice
 Well
 How far along is that?
 Is that something ready enough to cherry pick?
[15:23] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: the Qt front end? last I heard, it was still preyty broken
[15:23] <acheronuk> *pretty
[15:30] <acheronuk> yofel: you doing something with KCI?
[15:31] <yofel> acheronuk: yes sorry, it'll be back in a few minutes
[15:32] <acheronuk> no problem. just checking it was you, not some horrible glitch :P
[15:32] <yofel> first just wanted to install updates.. then got annoyed by it being slow and I'm trying to fix that
[15:32] <acheronuk> ok :)
[15:36] <yofel> *blink*
[15:42] <yofel> why is the old CI even still alive...
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[15:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[15:54] <yofel> better
[15:54] <yofel> acheronuk: it's back
[15:54] <acheronuk> :D
[15:54] <yofel> and shouldn't become unresponsive when managing a large amount of jobs anymore
[15:54] <yofel> (moved the data back to the SSD)
[15:54] <acheronuk> aha
[16:19] <acheronuk> shadeslayer: don't suppose you have time to quickly upload one new PIM source?
[16:20] <acheronuk> no prob is not. I'll just annoy simon later until he does. but he's at school now
[16:21] <shadeslayer> I guess I can
[16:24] <acheronuk> thank you
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[16:55] <acheronuk> yofel: ^^^^
[16:55] <yofel> on it
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[16:56] <yofel> facepalm
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[16:58] <yofel> huh
[16:59] <acheronuk> docker monitor?
[17:00] <yofel> yeah
[17:00] <yofel> it died when I unmounted the volume. Which kind of makes sense...
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[17:01] <yofel> *sigh*
[17:01] <yofel> and there's that
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[17:03] <yofel> Ok, I turned linode off :/
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[17:04] <acheronuk> I did that this morning, to tidy up the ones from nightly that failed
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[19:40] <santa_> acheronuk: do you mind if stage plasma 5.8.9 for xenial?
[19:40] <acheronuk> santa_: not at all
[19:40] <santa_> ack, will do
[19:41] <santa_> I supose I should cherry-pick that discover icons fix, right?
 yes please!
[19:41] <acheronuk> yes
[19:43] <acheronuk> santa_: you might want to disable s390x builds in that staging ppa if you are using that. as the frameworks in xenial backports never had that arch
[19:44] <santa_> ok
[19:45] <mamarley> Ooh, PPAs can build s390x now?
[19:45] <acheronuk> yep
[19:45] <mamarley> Cool!
[19:45] <acheronuk> mamarley: you can now run backports on your IBM mainframe!
[19:46] <acheronuk> have fun!
[19:46] <genii> Trippy
[21:31] <valorie> yofel: why do we need our own driver manager?
[21:38] <valorie> or webshortcuts for that matter
[21:48] <yofel> valorie: We have our own KCM, if we don't need the systemsettings integration then we can just use the GTK thingy
[21:48] <valorie> oh right
[21:48] <valorie> icky gtk
[21:49] <valorie> I wish canonical had at least stuck with Qt
[21:49] <acheronuk> yofel valorie: https://phabricator.kde.org/T2844
[21:49] <valorie> oh, well
[21:49] <acheronuk> Neon wanted to integrate that and assimilate it away from qapt etc
[21:50] <acheronuk> but not much has come of it :/
[21:52] <valorie> commented
[21:52] <valorie> will write to Distributions list about it
[21:53] <acheronuk> that upstream patch for qapt should hopefully calm Muon's use of update-apt-xapian-index anyway. just doing that now to tes in bionic
 I poked https://phabricator.kde.org/T2844
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[21:56] <acheronuk> I seem to recall people were not keen on having it in discover. discover != driver UI, was the main opinion
[21:56] <acheronuk> but an agnostic KCM would be great
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 Why shouldn't Discover have a driver component? I think that would be really helpful for KDE distros
 right now distros need to write their own driver managers, so each one has a different one (or worse, none at all)
 I don't recall the discussion or where it was. maybe I misremember
[22:00] <valorie> sent
[22:01] <valorie> I don't care how it is done, but all of us should collaborate rather than everyone having their own crappy solution
 +100
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[08:41] <damhyojung> hey,all
[08:42] <damhyojung> where r u guys from
[10:28] <ziroday> Hi, how could I help with the UWN and such?
[13:38] <cody-somerville> ziroday, just jump right in!
[13:38] <ziroday> cody-somerville: awesome, anywhere you can recommend, anything I can read
[13:39] <ziroday> I went through the wiki but wasn't quite sure how to contribute
[13:39] <cody-somerville> If you find a story worth reporting, write it up in the current draft
[13:39] <ziroday> all right, and guidelines?
[13:40] <ziroday> nevermind found it :)
[13:42] <ziroday> cody-somerville: so I can just edit here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue111 ?
[13:42] <cody-somerville> yup
[13:43] <ziroday> awesome!
[13:43] <ziroday> cody-somerville: thanks a load
[13:44] <cody-somerville> no problem :]


[10:57] <blake> how doi start it?
[10:57] <Seveas> blake, *please* read the manual
[10:57] <blake> and what about webmin is that the same way??
[10:57] <Seveas> on httpd.apache.org
[10:57] <blake> where is it
[10:57] <Seveas> on httpd.apache.org :)
[10:58] <amonkey> i have duplicate entries in my apps menu, how can i get rid of them? menu editor doesn't see multiples(in fact, i used it to make the entry that is in the duplicate folder)
[10:58] <dabaSlon> blake, as well, a book on LAMP is pretty nice to learn out of.
[10:58] <Kejk_PL> webmin: https://localhost:10000
[10:58] <Seveas> amonkey, if no one answers now (i don't know it, sorry), ask Amaranth when he is active
[10:59] <blake> what is lamp/
[10:59] <Amaranth> amonkey: Are you using smeg?
[10:59] <Seveas> Linux,Apache,MySQL,Perl/PHP/Python
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> linux apache mysql php
[10:59] <amonkey> amaranth: i have no idea what that is
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> lapp is better
[10:59] <mirak> Seveas: I have fnialy found where it was
[10:59] <dabaSlon> xright, you wanna know about the LA part, it is interesting.
[10:59] <dataw0lf|w> linux apache postgresql python
[10:59] <kingsley_> How durable are Samsung's LCD monitors?
[10:59] <Seveas> postgres dataw0lf ?
[11:00] <mirak> Seveas: I can do it I tell you :)
[11:00] <amonkey> amaranth: i was trying to add a shortcut, and it added a new folder for it with the same name
[11:00] <Seveas> ah ok, you answered it ;)
[11:00] <dataw0lf|w> seveas: that's correct ;)
[11:00] <Amaranth> amonkey: Using smeg?
[11:00] <makaveli> does anybody know how to get more workspaces
[11:00] <makaveli> ?
[11:00] <Amaranth> makaveli: right click on the workspaces area
[11:00] <franklin50> Can someone tell me the difference between vncserver and vnc4server?
[11:00] <amonkey> amaranth: using the menu editor
[11:00] <Amaranth> it's in the preferences
[11:01] <carthik> Fator_Dee, it does... but I had to give it to someone who's on XP
[11:01] <makaveli> thanks
[11:01] <Seveas> vnc4server is simply version 4
[11:01] <Seveas> vncserver is 3.7.X i believe
[11:02] <franklin50> Seveas: Interesting.
[11:02] <Seveas> franklin50, use apt cache show to see the details ;)
[11:02] <Seveas> apt-cache show that is
[11:02] <Fator_Dee> carthik: well, all I can say is that he is using a wrong OS :-p
[11:02] <franklin50> Seveas: thanks!
[11:03] <dabaSlon> Seveas: he wants to start apache from the apps menu...There is a filezilla server that works like that for windows.
[11:03] <dabaSlon> and, it never connects for me...Windows...:)
[11:03] <Seveas> dabaSlon, apache for windows can work like that too
[11:03] <dabaSlon> yeah, I ghad that too, it breaks too.
[11:04] <amonkey> does anyone know how to get the sound in quake3 to work under ubuntu?
[11:04] <Seveas> but asking "how does apache work on linux" is simply too big a question for IRC
[11:04] <dabaSlon> but after I started Linux, so, I never used it.
[11:04] <dockane> i recognized that hda is far too slow ( hdparm -t : 2.3 MB/sec). than i saw that dma is disabled but 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' returns : HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted. any idea ?
[11:04] <linuxn00b> Hey, in windows 2000 I can see my ubuntu share over samba, but when it says "connect as" I put in my ubuntu user name and pass, and it still doesnt work.
[11:04] <amichai> i keep getting an xkb error when i log in to gnome, anyone get that?
[11:04] <dabaSlon> right, I offered to send him a eBook...
[11:04] <Amaranth> amonkey: Ok, I'll assume you're using the old version. http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg <--download this to your home dir, open a terminal and run 'chmod +x installsmeg && sudo ./installsmeg'
[11:04] <dabaSlon> so, he can read, or not...like that guy last night...wants to erase a hard disk with gtparted
[11:05] <Seveas> dockane, you cannot use the ide_generic driver but need specific drivers for your chipset, there was a post on thin in the ubuntu-users or ubuntu-devel mailinglist recently
[11:05] <dabaSlon> format it...
[11:05] <Seveas> Amaranth, no smeg debs anymore?
[11:06] <Seveas> or does the installer pull them in?
[11:06] <Amaranth> Seveas: That's just a script to do all the hard work for you. Removes the old config, gets all the debs, installs them, and cleans up.
[11:06] <dockane> Seveas, so its a commom problem? where do check if generic or some special driver is running ?
[11:06] <Mike> guys do you know why i get this error while trying to load aa module
[11:07] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[11:07] <DenisG> hello guys.
[11:07] <Mike> FATAL: Error inserting zaptel (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/misc/zaptel.ko): Invalid module format
[11:07] <DenisG> give me your xscreensaver-dialogue.
[11:07] <DenisG> i'm on gentoo, and i want it too.
[11:07] <DenisG> give me. now.
[11:08] <Seveas> DenisG, don't troll please
[11:08] <Burgundavia> DenisG, this is not the correct place to ask
[11:08] <Seveas> download the deb, extract it and take the splash
[11:08] <dabaSlon> DenisG: awesome, denis.
[11:08] <DenisG> it just is so great, i would love to have it on my PC :)
[11:09] <dabaSlon> give it now, denis.
[11:09] <linuxn00b> anyone?
[11:09] <DenisG> bah. Don't you have a little bit of humour? :/
[11:10] <Seveas> DenisG, simply download the debfile, or the deb source
[11:10] <amonkey> amaranth: installing...
[11:10] <fabio> hello ppl!
[11:10] <Seveas> so you can compile it too
[11:11] <hybrid_goth> fabio: hi
[11:11] <DenisG> yes, thanks, i will do that :)
[11:11] <exciton> does anyone in here know about temp shut downs? I am running kubuntu and and after a few mins it kills X and drops to a trem stating the the temp has reached 40C and the system is shuting down but I need to rase that because I have a hot running athlon xp thats safe to play up to the 60C range
[11:11] <fabio> hybrid goth, do u know why in some document like CHM's I keep seeing small squares with little numbers inside instead of characters, eg.: 0097 instead of - ??
[11:12] <dabaSlon> exciton: you wanna monitor those, I think.
[11:12] <hybrid_goth> fabio: hmm maybe a interpertation error.. have you tried differnt fonts?
[11:12] <dabaSlon> you using xchm?
[11:12] <fabio> exciton, have u got some BIOS setting for that?
[11:12] <amonkey> amaranth: installing smeg fixed my duplicate folder, but there is a folder i want to delete that doesn't come up in smeg
[11:12] <fabio> dabaSlon, yes
[11:12] <fabio> I am
[11:12] <Amaranth> amonkey: whick folder is that?
[11:12] <dabaSlon> fabio: in what language settings?
[11:12] <Amaranth> err, which
[11:13] <amonkey> Transgaming
[11:13] <fabio> I think UK English
[11:13] <amonkey> amaranth: it appeared after i upped to warty
[11:13] <Amaranth> amonkey: They use a legacy menu, there is no way to delete it with the new spec.
[11:13] <amonkey> hoary rather
[11:13] <fabio> dabaSlon, I think UK English
[11:13] <dabaSlon> oh, ok...
[11:13] <ompaul> exciton, emm the way to deal with that is to include a working fan, it is a protection to safe the hardware from frying, there is no utility that I know that can deal with that - it is a hardware thing
[11:13] <fabio> dabaSlon, anyway I do I check it
[11:13] <exciton> what I really need to do is rase the shut down temp to say 60C but I did not even know that linux could shut down do to heat shy of with a afaik acpi based temp sensor
[11:13] <ompaul> exciton, it is a/ it should be
[11:14] <amonkey> amaranth: so i can't get rid of it?
[11:14] <fabio> hybrid_goth, thanks I could try that!
[11:14] <poopinaboot> whats the command for OOo that lets you select what kind of OOo project you want to start, like the generic one for all of them
[11:15] <family> Hello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?
[11:15] <exciton> my bios is set to warn at 155F and shut down at 160F but when kubuntu shuts it down the warn temp is not even reached
[11:15] <hybrid_goth> fabio: np hope it works
[11:15] <Amaranth> amonkey: Not without manual hackery. It should be in /home/<your username>/.gnome2/vfolders/applications
[11:15] <fabio> hybrid_goth, thank, will try just now, and see what happen :)
[11:15] <topyli> poopinaboot: they're binaries called things like oowriter, oocalc, ooimpress
[11:16] <fabio> dabaSlon, do u know some solution?
[11:16] <dabaSlon> im just installing it now.
[11:16] <dabaSlon> :-p
[11:16] <poopinaboot> topyli: i think you misunderstood my question
[11:16] <ompaul> poopinaboot, oomaster but tbh you can start anything from any started ooapplication
[11:16] <topyli> oh, quite possibly :)
[11:16] <poopinaboot> ompaul: I know, I just want the basic one to query me as to what type of project I would like to begin
[11:16] <family> Is anyone capable of answering my question :)?
[11:17] <amonkey> Amaranth: i deleted the point2play file in that folder, killed gnome-panel, but it's still there
[11:17] <fabio> family, what is it?
[11:17] <family> when I type this command in   mysqladmin -u root password <password> it says: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[11:17] <ompaul> poopinaboot, ahh the shell script you are about to write, that is the correct command ... ;-)
[11:17] <family> Hello, I installed the MYSQL server according to the ubuntuguide.org, how can i see if its running and how can i test the connection to it so i can get amaroK working w/ it?
[11:17] <Amaranth> amonkey: I don't know what to tell you. I know nothing about how the old system works.
[11:17] <poopinaboot> ompaul: lol, mmkay
[11:18] <topyli> poopinaboot: you want the dialog that asks you to open a template or create a new document?
[11:18] <dabaSlon> fabio: oh, yeah, I can see it.
[11:18] <poopinaboot> topyli: ummm, sure
[11:18] <fabio> dabaSlon, do u know some solution :)
[11:18] <poopinaboot> ahhh, oofromtemplate
[11:18] <topyli> yes
[11:18] <poopinaboot> thats the prog, thanks for your help everyone :)
[11:19] <fabio> family, I dunno about amarok, about testing MySql u can always try <?php phpinfo() ?>
[11:19] <poopinaboot> its easier than adding all the icons to my taskbar
[11:19] <family> fabio: its not for a webserver
[11:19] <fabio> family, oh right, sorry then
[11:20] <amonkey> amaranth: thanks for your help
[11:20] <dabaSlon> I just saw it.
[11:21] <dabaSlon>  A fix would be to try to link these programs to wxgtk2.5 (unstable
[11:21] <dabaSlon> development line) instead of 2.4, which I'v tried for xchm where it worked
[11:21] <dabaSlon> fine. The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control
[11:21] <dabaSlon> file.
[11:21] <ompaul> family, part of the question can be answered with type the following 'mysl'  after that type 'status' that will show if it is up and running
[11:21] <dabaSlon> in fact, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm
[11:22] <dabaSlon> sorry
[11:22] <family> ompaul: how can i change the root password?
[11:22] <Fackamato> sudo passwd
[11:22] <fabio> debaSlon, thanks will try and have a look at the link
[11:22] <whyz> oi, i heard that x-window-system-core isjust a meta package which is no use and can be uninstalled.. i'm asking this because i want to get rid of the mesa drivers, which forces me to remove x-window-system-core
[11:23] <whyz> but then ubuntu-desktop depends on x-window-system-core
[11:23] <family> sry, root password for MySQL
[11:23] <topyli> poopinaboot: ideally, you'd put some templates in the gnome Templates folder and use them :)
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> :D
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> hi
[11:23] <ompaul> family, I have not done it in so long .. I forget let me try to remember
[11:23] <family> nvm, i got it
[11:23] <Amaranth> amonkey: I'll figure out how that format works and might make a converter.
[11:23] <family> thanks for the help
[11:23] <topyli> poopinaboot: then just create new stuff from the desktop instead of launching apps
[11:23] <ubuntuPIE> this live CD rocks!
[11:23] <dabaSlon> fabio: I am looking for the solution too:-p
[11:24] <makaveli> does anyone know where the lockscreen file is so that i can set a keybinding to it?
[11:24] <Fator_Dee> whyz: ubuntu-desktop is also a metapackage
[11:25] <fabio> dabaSlon, as the forum says, wxgtk2.5 is probably the solution
[11:25] <fabio> dabaSlon, but how to change them, via apt-get??
[11:25] <whyz> Fator_Dee, so it's safe to just remove them too?
[11:26] <dabaSlon> haha, I said I am reading it.
[11:26] <fabio> dabaSlon, ops sorry :)
[11:26] <dockane> i checked the ubuntu user mailing list archive for my dma issue and found the advice to put ' amd74xx ' to  /etc/modules. imho this is the driver for the chipset (the guy who was experiencing smiliar problens run a nforce4 mainboard) but how do i find out which driver i should to /etc/modules ?
[11:26] <dockane> *add
[11:27] <dabaSlon> fabio: :) http://pastebin.com/282890
[11:27] <makaveli> anyone know where the executable file is for lockscreen
[11:27] <makaveli> i need to set a keybinding to it
[11:27] <dabaSlon> im looking...:)
[11:27] <fabio> dabaSlon, thanks I am trying to use Synaptic to do the job and see what happen
[11:27] <Jormundgand> What do I need to do to change the name of an account?
[11:28] <makaveli> also does anyone know how i would set a program to start up when the computer starts up?
[11:28] <Burgundavia> makaveli, when you login or when it starts up?
[11:29] <makaveli> when i log in?
[11:29] <makaveli> i need to load 3ddeskd when i login so i don't have to manually aquire my desktops
[11:29] <ompaul> family: mysqladmin - u root -p password <-- that is what you want
[11:29] <Burgundavia> ok, add it to your gnome session
[11:29] <family> I got it, thanks
[11:29] <Burgundavia> system-->prefs-->sessions
[11:29] <makaveli> how do i do that
[11:29] <fabio> dabaSlon, thanks, but that's still confusing :P
[11:30] <makaveli> sweet
[11:30] <makaveli> thanks
[11:30] <dabaSlon> fabio which, the forum? I just dont know where his "control" file is...for xchm
[11:30] <makaveli> did anyone find the location of lock screen?
[11:31] <dabaSlon>  The only needed change there was the Build-Depends line in the control file.
[11:31] <dabaSlon> hah, a treasure hunt.
[11:31] <fabio> dabaSlon, oh right, so how u done it exactly then, cos I am still new to it!
[11:32] <bruno> ba c pas cela
[11:32] <bruno> toujours rien
[11:32] <bruno> je vais le re installer..
[11:33] <tritium> bruno, #ubuntu-fr
[11:33] <K_Dallas> bruno: join #ubuntu-fr
[11:33] <dabaSlon> fabio, I am trying to figure it out too...:)
[11:33] <K_Dallas> which is an 18+ chan btw ;)
[11:33] <fabio> dabaSlon, kk, yes, cos I am trying to see where Build Depends is
[11:33] <besian> what terminal does ubuntu use?
[11:33] <bruno> Preconfiguring packages ...
[11:33] <bruno> (Lecture de la base de donnes... 59121 fichiers et rpertoires dj installs.)Prparation du remplacement de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr 1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (en utilisant .../mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr_1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[11:33] <bruno> Dpaquetage de la mise  jour de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr ...
[11:33] <bruno> Paramtrage de mozilla-thunderbird-locale-fr (1.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1) ...
[11:33] <drfanatic> Ijoin #ubuntu.de
[11:34] <dabaSlon> so you know which file is the control one?
[11:34] <K_Dallas> bruno, yoohoo?
[11:34] <dabaSlon> drfanatic: lol...
[11:34] <bruno> sorry
[11:34] <bruno> it is a mistake
[11:34] <K_Dallas> ;)
[11:34] <dabaSlon> it is a mistake
[11:34] <besian> what terminal does ubuntu use?
[11:34] <dabaSlon> :)
[11:34] <dabaSlon> 7
[11:34] <Jormundgand> besian: gnome-terminal.
[11:34] <K_Dallas> besian: isnt it gnome-term
[11:34] <besian> ok thank you :D
[11:34] <makaveli> ?
[11:36] <fluideye> anyone know why during boot i get pcmcia cant find power supply looped over and over (about 2 minutes) before it moves on and finishes loading
[11:36] <bruno> bye
[11:36] <sladen> fluideye: nope.  Please report it as a bug
[11:36] <mirak> hi
[11:36] <mirak> is it possible to do an install from the live cd ?
[11:36] <Rubin> where are the vt's configured?
[11:36] <K_Dallas> mirak: no
[11:37] <sladen> mirak: in the next version, it will be
[11:37] <fluideye> sladen  it happened after configuring wifi
[11:37] <mirak> ah
[11:37] <mirak> ok
[11:37] <mirak> can I do an install from a warty cd ?
[11:37] <mirak> an upgrade after ?
[11:37] <mirak> and
[11:37] <thoreauputic> could someone on Hoary using xchat (2.4.1) confirm or denu that the /lastlog <nick> command fails ? I can'y get it to work with any user including a test default config user...
[11:37] <sladen> fluideye: if you file a bug, you can put all the details in one place and the person who knows about it can follow it up with you.  It will be a very specific problem relating to that PCMCIA card and that model of laptop.
[11:38] <fluideye> sladen thanks
[11:38] <thoreauputic> I meant "deny" of course :)
[11:38] <sladen> fluideye: and will likely require a workaround
[11:38] <sladen> mirak: yes, you can install from a warty CD and upgrade
[11:38] <fluideye> sladen another question: how do i check on my sound card, it's detected but know volume
[11:39] <nufan> Hello
[11:40] <blake> how can i not be an owner of a folder if i am the only one on my computer!!!!! SOMEONE?
[11:40] <Nintendud> Hi, I just have a quick question... if I installed ubuntu on a partition on a hard drive with fedora core 3 already installed, would it automatically recognize the partition so I could access the files, or do I need to do something special? also, will I be able to boot into both OS's after the install?
[11:40] <blake> i want to own all of them
[11:40] <ompaul> blake, that is not the way of gnu/linux/ubuntu
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, I did the same but I lost Fedora
[11:41] <blake> ok well how do i create a file in that folder?
[11:41] <nufan> Nintendud: I believe you'll have to add the partition yourself
[11:41] <dabaSlon> blake, there is root...and apache, so tht apache can only get to some folders...
[11:41] <Nintendud> fabio: could you access the files?
[11:41] <blake> in root or sudo
[11:41] <dabaSlon> throught the web server.
[11:41] <ompaul> blake, which directory are you referring to?
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, nope :(
[11:41] <nufan> mount -t
[11:41] <Nintendud> nufan: can you tell me how so I can do it right after the install?
[11:41] <yann_> hi all
[11:41] <Nintendud> mount -t? it's that simple?
[11:41] <nufan> Sort of
[11:41] <fabio> Nintendud, try to do a partition in Fedora before installing Ubuntu
[11:41] <blake> i'm refering to the one that it didn't create for the files to go into
[11:41] <yann_> i've a problem with cedega and steam
[11:42] <nufan> mount -t /dev/hda(num) /mnt/fed
[11:42] <yann_> anyone can help me ?
[11:42] <fabio> Nintendud, try QParted, I think it is alright
[11:42] <ompaul> blake, that does not make sense to me, can you try to explain it another way?
[11:42] <nufan> You'll have to create /mnt/fed
[11:42] <Nintendud> fabio: all I need to do is be able to access the files
[11:42] <blake> it says it needs to be /var/www/foo/bar/index.html
[11:42] <Fator_Dee> yann_: you might get bette help from #cedega
[11:42] <Nintendud> I'm not going to overwrite the fedora partition
[11:42] <nufan> And the /dev/hda(num) refers to the partition number
[11:42] <edgordon> I need to sort of kid-proof a single user in a new ubuntu install. Is there a package that helps set this up? I am mainly concerned about limiting the apps the user can use.
[11:42] <blake> but it only goes to www
[11:42] <Nintendud> nufan: thanks
[11:43] <blake> i need to create the folder foo, and bar
[11:43] <fabio> Nintendud, u mean after u install Ubuntu?
[11:43] <yann_> Fator_Dee, oki and on which server ?
[11:43] <Nintendud> I'll probably install ubuntu tonight ^_^
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> yann_: this
[11:43] <yann_> lol ok
[11:43] <yann_> thx
[11:43] <blake> but somehow i found the index file
[11:43] <ompaul> blake, foo bar are examples, they are not intended to be taken literally
[11:43] <fabio> Nintendud, Ubuntu is pretty quick comparing to Fedora, it took 15mins on my budget pc nad I am a beginner !!
[11:43] <blake> and it's not in the fo/bar directory
[11:43] <blake> oooh
[11:43] <blake> well
[11:43] <thr1ce> haha
[11:43] <thr1ce> try installing crux
[11:43] <nufan> Nintendud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25200
[11:43] <blake> myapache says it will be that
[11:44] <Nintendud> nufan: thanks for the help!
[11:44] <blake> The default directory index is index.html, meaning that requests for a directory /foo/bar/ will give the contents of the file /var/www/foo/bar/index.html if it exists (assuming that /var/www is your DocumentRoot).
[11:44] <nufan> I'm on a mac, but I'm certain it's exacty the same process
[11:44] <Nintendud> fabio: yeah I'm switching to ubuntu because of the speed.. I'm on a Pentium II 400 mHz
[11:44] <thr1ce> Nintendud, you should run another distro without gnome
[11:44] <fabio> Nintendud, you will gain
[11:44] <blake> so your saying that that's not my document root/
[11:44] <blake> something else is?
[11:44] <fabio> Nintendud, a lot of speed
[11:45] <Nintendud> thr1ce: why without gnome?
[11:45] <Nintendud> I'm running windows xp with this thing
[11:45] <thr1ce> it's a resource hog
[11:45] <fabio> thr1che, why?>
[11:45] <blake> and where ever my document root s is where that index file is??
[11:45] <Nintendud> so I'm pretty sure gnome would be fast
[11:45] <Nintendud> and isn't gnome faster than KDE?
[11:45] <thr1ce> or try xfce, that's a great blend
[11:45] <Nintendud> xfce is nice
[11:45] <blake> is that correct?
[11:45] <Nintendud> I used it.
[11:45] <fabio> Nintendud, I like gnome too
[11:45] <ompaul> blake, the document root is specified in the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[11:45] <Fator_Dee> Nintendud: xfce would be a better choice regarding speed
[11:45] <Fator_Dee> and it's good also
[11:45] <thr1ce> Nintendud, um...depends on the compile; I personally prefer kde to gnome, but either one is getting very nice and developed
[11:45] <Nintendud> Fator_Dee: yeah I know
[11:45] <nufan> Is it possible to install Fedora 4 onto an external hard drive and keep Ubuntu on my internal hard drive?
[11:46] <thr1ce> xfce being my personal favorite; they did HUGE improvements to XFCE 4.2
[11:46] <shinu> why cant i do ls *.txt?
[11:46] <shinu> it says: ls: invalid option -- e
[11:46] <ompaul> Shinu you can
[11:46] <fabio> shinu, strange
[11:46] <ubuntuPIE> ls -e?
[11:46] <trandom> Sorry to just butt in like this : but can someone point me in the direction of a good beginners site or something to help me get to grips with linux??
[11:46] <blake> i have apache 2 so it might be diffrent
[11:46] <blake> i mena
[11:46] <blake> apache 1
[11:46] <thoreauputic> shinu: try ls -b *.txt
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> :P
[11:47] <lamont> shinu: you have a file named '-e*.txt'
[11:47] <thr1ce> trandom, break things, then learn how to fix them
[11:47] <lamont> try ls -- *.txt
[11:47] <Burgundavia> trandom, what kind of help do you need?
[11:47] <nufan> trandow: ubuntuguide.org
[11:47] <ompaul> blake, well have look for httpd.conf then
[11:47] <trandom> it's not much help
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> ls -- -e*.txt
[11:47] <thoreauputic> shinu, one of your files has a weird name
[11:47] <shinu> ow yes...
[11:47] <trandom> i need to know how to compile stuff etc...
[11:47] <shinu> sorry for that...
[11:47] <shinu> had a file named -name.......
[11:47] <shinu> thanks a lot :D
[11:47] <ubuntuPIE> :>
[11:48] <shinu> thanks lamont ^^
[11:48] <lamont> trandom: you looking for a beginning linux developers guide, or a linux users guide?
[11:48] <xet7> trandom: for ubuntu specific faqs:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:48] <lamont> (no need to compile stuff to just use the thing...)
[11:48] <Burgundavia> trandom, why do you need to compile stuff?
[11:48] <fabio> Guys, does anyone know what this file is: Build-Depends line in the control
[11:48] <fabio> file. on xchm??
[11:48] <trandom> well... things like bittornado for example
[11:48] <lamont> fabio: ??
[11:48] <trandom> they dont just run themselves
[11:48] <fabio> lamont, sorry, I mean the control file
[11:48] <lamont> trandom: add universe, and it's probably there - everything else is...
[11:48] <trandom> or at least i cant get it to...
[11:49] <lamont> fabio: you trying to understand what a Build-Depends line means, or a particular instance of one?
[11:49] <blake> i found it
[11:49] <blake> and it's in the same place as you said
[11:49] <k31th> yo...
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, i have got a little prob with xchm, it displays little squares instead of characters, e.g 0097 instead of - so I tried thos fourm:
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167&highlight=xchm
[11:50] <lamont> trandom: but outside of the ubuntu faqs, not sure where to point you
[11:50] <fabio> lamont, but is not very clear
[11:50] <ubuntuPIE> what is the default root password on the liveCD?
[11:50] <trandom> i'll look through them
[11:51] <trandom> is ubuntu much like other distos?
[11:51] <trandom> or is it much different?
[11:51] <ubuntuPIE> its linux
[11:51] <jp_> try it.
[11:51] <ubuntuPIE> the liveCD rocks
[11:51] <lamont> fabbione: Build-Depends in the control file is a statement of what packages must be installed in order to build this pacakge.
[11:51] <timmow> trandom: have you been to tldp.org?
[11:51] <lamont> the build daemons automatically install things to meet the build-depends, etc.
[11:51] <Burgundavia> trandom, very similar to other ngome distros
[11:51] <stormy73034> ok i apt-get tightvnc on my ubuntu pc now where can i configure it at
[11:52] <trandom> kl
[11:52] <lamont> ubuntuPIE: there is no root password on the liveCD - that account is locked.
[11:52] <lamont> as is the ubuntu account
[11:52] <nufan> Can you install linux on an external hard drive?
[11:52] <fabio> lamont, any good?
[11:52] <lamont> ubuntuPIE: and sudo gets you to root without a password.
[11:52] <lamont> fabio:???
[11:52] <hybrid_goth> nufan: yea
[11:53] <fabio> lamont, I explained my prob, any solution?
[11:53] <lamont> fabio: if the package requires anything beyond build-essential packages, it will never get into the archive until the build-depends line is correct.  So yeah, it's a good thing.
[11:53] <lamont> fabio: ah, you're missing some unicode font packages, would be my guess.
[11:53] <lamont> nfc which ones though
[11:53] <fabio> lamont, oh right! Where do I get them>
[11:54] <lamont> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[11:54] <nufan> hybrid_goth: any help?
[11:54] <lamont> fabio: but, like I said, I have no clue what package you need to install...
[11:54] <fabio> lamont, thanks,  so then have to look for fonts perhaps...!!
[11:54] <andreu> hello
[11:55] <nufan> My current plan is to install FC4 on external and have yaboot recognise the external hard disk
[11:55] <trandom> how do you add packages to the package manager???
[11:55] <thoreauputic> fabio: try running  apt-cache search unicode | grep fonts
[11:55] <timmow> trandom: what do you want to add?
[11:55] <poopinaboot> anyone know how to get a printable blank calendar?
[11:55] <thoreauputic> fabio: there seem to be a few packages there
[11:55] <trandom> timmow, bittornado
[11:55] <timmow> trandom: you don't add packages as such, more locations of where to get packages from
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> nufan: what do you want too do
[11:56] <trandom> timmow, but how?
[11:56] <timmow> trandom: on ubuntuguide.org enable extra repositories
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> nufan: juss set your bios to boot from usb then install linux on it
[11:56] <poopinaboot> anyone?
[11:56] <fabio> thoreauputic, thanks I will try
[11:56] <DenisG> poopinaboot: ever used LaTeX?
[11:57] <poopinaboot> DenisG: no, what is it?
[11:57] <nufan> hybrid: Install FC4 on an external hard disk (firewire)
[11:57] <DenisG> ah, well, it is a typesetting software package that can print calendars with the correct settings
[11:57] <DenisG> though its very complex as it is very powerfull
[11:57] <andreu> hello, its posible copy data dvd with gnomebaker?
[11:57] <timmow> trandom: also http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ because i think i remember the ubuntu bittorrent package is broken
[11:58] <DenisG> you might want to look for another solution for your problem first.
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> nufan: yes then set your bios to boot off firewire
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> nufan: if they can
[11:58] <trandom> timmow, ah ha
[11:58] <trandom> timmow, cheers m8
[11:58] <darkaudit> storm getting closer... shutting down...


[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:13] <mmikowski> :RikMills hi rik, you around?
[15:22] <RikMills> mmikowski: for now
[15:23] <mmikowski> Hey, nothing lengthy, i was just wondering if you were interested in porting some of the kubuntu focus tools upstream. No pressure, but there are some that might make a lot of sense.
[15:23] <mmikowski> Just thought I'd give you a bump before I got too far into my day.
[15:24] <mmikowski> Maybe a better way to consider is to join a video call and look through the stuff. Might be the fastest way to determine what you'd like.
[15:25] <RikMills> mmikowski: I must admit I have not taken too close a look at what you have. I hate video calls, but I am sure we can work something out :)
[15:25] <mmikowski> Great work on the system, and just saw another big upgrade today. KDE is really starting to settle down it appears.
[15:26] <RikMills> mmikowski: I also have frameworks 5.95 and plasma 5.25 (embargoed tars) building ;)
[15:26] <mmikowski> I think the value of a video call isn't in seeing each other - honestly, I don't need that either - but in screen sharing the tools and responding immediately to question or interest. So "Screen Share Call" might be the best way to put it.
[15:26] <RikMills> currently
[15:26] <mmikowski> Ooh, that's great!
[15:27] <mmikowski> here are some of the kubuntu focus tools. On the focus, you can click any icon to launch the app through a mime-handler.
[15:27] <mmikowski> https://kfocus.org/wf/tools
[15:28] <mmikowski> We do lots of other stuff like make slack web links work, and of course hardware integration, but these seem like low hanging fruit.
[15:28] <RikMills> some of those look interesting :D
[15:29] <mmikowski> So don't worry about, just wanted to plant a seed.  If you want to return to it at some time, just let me know.
[15:29] <RikMills> ok, I am not likely to get far on it in the next week. feel free to ping if it looks like I have forgotten
[15:30] <RikMills> I do want to set up a VM with ficus sometime to see what is what. just keeps getting bumped down the list
[15:30] <RikMills> *focus
[15:30] <mmikowski> Thanks! One that is sill but solves a frequent problem for our ML customers, is the C stack switcher. Days of research into that (and many weeks and even months in others).  It saves ML guys days of doing it badly.
[15:31] <mmikowski> Ah, no worries Rik. Again, I really appreciate all the hard work you do the the distro, and would like contribute back too.
[15:32] <RikMills> I suspect the c stack switcher is probably more reverent to your userbase than the general kubuntu one, but hey, may be good for all
[15:32] <mmikowski> kk, so I'll pester you in around a week if I haven't hear from you :)
[15:33] <RikMills> please do.  Again, completely solves a common problem correctly and in a packaged way.
[15:33] <mmikowski> And, like all of these, once we improve them, they get upgraded seamlessly.
[15:34] <RikMills> :D
[15:34] <mmikowski> The mime handler is also a nice one, although not listed directly here. It will add repo + install + open on a click if needed.
[15:35] <mmikowski> Wimpress is doing this on CLI very well recently and got some good press for it; we've been doing it for over 2 years now, and we've offered to provide the UI to the project.
[15:35] <mmikowski> sorry, GUI :P
[15:36] <mmikowski> We also contribute to get-deb which is their project.
[15:36] <mmikowski> kk, I'll let you get back to life and I'll add a reminder in my calendar to give you a bump.
[15:37] <RikMills> this sort of thing has slipped in kubuntu in recent years. custom tools to add value getting removed due to bitrot with no-one able to maintain
[15:37] <RikMills> a fresh look on this would be great
[15:38] <RikMills> ok, and thanks. this looks promising :)
[15:39] <mmikowski> We've got a really good package and dev infrastructure in place now, with automated regression tests on a nice common lib.  It's all GPL 2, and we expect to soon have a public repo. Of course, our ppa is already public.
[15:40] <mmikowski> Great Rik. Here's a quick intro to the mime-handler stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Zfv29cLrE
[15:47] <mamarley> RikMills: How come 5.25 is only for Jammy in https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/plasma/+packages ?  (Not trying to ask you to do extra work, just curious.)
[15:48] <RikMills> mamarley: because the kinetic build is in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4864/+packages
[15:48] <mamarley> Ah, figured it was something like that, thanks!
[15:48] <RikMills> to land straight to the archive on Tuesday
[15:49] <mamarley> (Got to have the latest software crack. ;) )
[15:49] <RikMills> indeed!
[15:50] <mamarley> I've been running the 5.25 beta with Wayland ever since it was released.  This is the first time I've done that for more than a couple of days without finding some reason to switch back to X.  But this is really nice.
[15:50] <RikMills> kool!
[16:38] <mamarley> Yay, they fixed the missing clock in the lock screen!
[17:20] <mamarley> Hmm, something in this is causing some menus that come off the panels (kickoff, calendar, etc.) to bump any windows in the way out of the way.  Annoying…
[21:51] <RikMills> mamarley: not seen that so far
[21:52] <mamarley> It's only on Wayland.
[21:53] <mamarley> And it is caused by https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/plasma-framework/-/commit/d0c9c659db4b35f98b7d9a3b2f8afb9fe5d73f34.
[21:58] <RikMills> is this reported as a bug?
[21:58] <mamarley> I reported it, but in the wrong application.  I need to go fix that now…
[21:59] <mmikowski> RikMills: Do you know anything about events propogating improperly on QML widgets (Plasma Optimus is the issue here). I found that script-exit events that used to fire there no longer do, which results in the widget never getting the GPU name.
[22:00] <mmikowski> RikMills: I'm looking at an alternate execution path, but if you said something like 'No worries mate, its a known bug, and fix is in', that would make my day :)
[22:00] <RikMills> mmikowski: not right now, especially as it is 11PM here on a Friday night and I have had a few beers ;)
[22:01] <RikMills> mamarley: great. thanks
[22:02] <mmikowski> RikMills: Thanks Rik.
[22:02] <mamarley> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455138
[22:03] <RikMills> mamarley: cheers. I may DM nate
[22:04] <mamarley> Thanks!
[22:07] <RikMills> If a revert commit (or fix) does not get into 5.95, I may think about doing that in packaging tomorrow
[22:07] <mamarley> The hardest part of tracking that one down was figuring out which package it was in.  As soon as I knew which repository to look at, the commit looked fishy right away.
[22:08] <RikMills> indeed it does
[22:09] <RikMills> plasma-framework being in fw is still weird choice


[06:09] <jibel> morning everyone
[07:17] <didrocks> good morning
[07:37] <jibel> hi didrocks
[07:48] <didrocks> salut jibel
[08:01] <mwhudson> oSoMoN: hey i actually have rustc & cargo updates ready now, is it safe to copy the stuff in rust-updates to rust-next yet?
[08:01] <mwhudson> (so i can upload the new things to rust-updates)
[08:01] <mwhudson> oh apart from a segfault on xenial/armhf, grump
[09:17] <Laney> moin from bluefin!
[09:18] <didrocks> hey hey Laney's bluefinner! :)
[09:18] <didrocks> are you at a sprint?
[09:18] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:19] <Laney> nah, I was in London for the weekend after Vancouver
[09:19] <Laney> went to see a concert last night and didn't fancy getting a super late train home
[09:20] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:20] <didrocks> nice! Going well, thanks, how is your jetlag? :)
[09:21] <Laney> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
[09:21] <Laney> did a 12 hour sleep on saturday night
[09:21] <Laney> was pretty fixed after that
[09:22] <didrocks> waow, quickly reset to correct timezone!
[09:22] <Laney> :>
[09:33] <oSoMoN> mwhudson, yes, copying rustc 1.37 and cargo 0.38 from rust-updates to rust-next should be fine
[09:33] <oSoMoN> will you do it, or do you want me to?
[09:34] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, by the way
[09:34] <didrocks> hey hey oSoMoN
[09:34] <oSoMoN> salut diddledan
[09:34] <oSoMoN> argh
[09:34] <oSoMoN> *didrocks
[09:35] <Laney> hey oSoMoN
[09:35] <oSoMoN> hey Laney
[09:36] <mwhudson> oSoMoN: er could you? don't really mind though
[09:36] <oSoMoN> mwhudson, sure, I'll do that now
[09:49] <oSoMoN> mwhudson, note that I filed bug #1852982 to track the next rustc/cargo update, but the requirement isn't live yet in firefox, so not urgent right now
[09:50] <mwhudson> oSoMoN: do we really have to build firefox/xenial/armhf? :)
[09:50] <oSoMoN> I wish we didn't…
[09:51] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:51] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN
[09:51] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[09:52] <didrocks> hey seb128
[09:53] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:53] <Laney> good journey back?
[09:57] <seb128> Laney, yeah, no delay, nice plane, not to complain. Just leaving at 3pm was too early to sleep, but I did watch some movies and played some games so was ok ;)
[09:57] <seb128> Laney, how was yours?
[09:57] <seb128> Laney, you are in the office today?
[09:57] <Laney> late
[09:57] <Laney> yep, sure am
[10:03]  * Laney has biscuits
[11:52] <ricotz> hey desktopers
[11:58] <Trevinho> uff, late day but got to the coworking finally.
[11:58] <Laney> hey ricotz hey Trevinho
[11:58] <Laney> working spanish hours eh
[12:09] <Trevinho> Laney: indeed, everything here starts late, you know :-D. Imagine that we went at restaruants at 10 and we're the first ones, then people arrives around 10.30-11 (pm)
[12:09] <marcustomlinson> g'day desktoppers
[12:09] <Trevinho> and D. has classes until 9pm so...  You? had time to recover from travelling?
[12:21] <seb128> Trevinho, a bit, I did skip saturday night basically since the plane was leaving on 3pm and that was too early for me to feel sleepy. I had a normal/good night yesterday though (23h to 9h) so I'm ok, just lack some hours of sleep
[12:28] <ricotz> oSoMoN, seb128, hi
[12:46] <Laney> seb128: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=945015 fyi
[12:55] <dps> good morning everyone
[13:22] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, did you follow https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1594686 ?
[13:23] <ricotz> oSoMoN, the best option to fix this would be to backport llvm-8 to xenial -- https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/mozilla/+packages
[13:47] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I did follow, and there's also https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581121 that would benefit from this solution
[13:49] <oSoMoN> ah, it's a private bug
[13:49] <oSoMoN> essentially another crasher on i386 on xenial
[13:55] <oSoMoN> ricotz, thanks for looking into this, are you investigating the build failures on armhf, ppc64el and s390x ?
[13:58] <ricotz> oSoMoN, ah interesting, it would be great you could try to fix the llvm-8 failures.
[14:53] <seb128> Laney, thx for the bot wishlist, reminds me we said we would look at the acl-by-branch on salsa but then we forgot
[15:10] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers!
[15:11] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[15:11] <hellsworth> o/
[15:11] <kenvandine> good morning
[15:11] <hellsworth> hey kenvandine how was vancouver?
[15:11] <hellsworth> from martin's email sounds like it was good
[15:14] <marcustomlinson> hey hellsworth
[15:14] <marcustomlinson> hey kenvandine
[15:14] <hellsworth> hi marcustomlinson - hope life is well for you :)
[15:15] <marcustomlinson> mostly yeah :) thanks hellsworth. Yourself?
[15:16] <hellsworth> yep i'm good. a little sick but i got back yesterday from barcelona and slept great :)
[15:16] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: it's that time of the year (re: getting sick)
[15:18] <marcustomlinson> I hear/saw you did a great job at LAS :)
[15:24] <Laney> seb128: yeah, remembered about it
[15:25] <Laney> pretty sure my laptop just failed to suspend
[15:25] <marcustomlinson> attach more helium balloons
[15:26] <Laney> ho
[15:26] <Laney> ho ho
[15:26] <marcustomlinson> CLOSED, NOTABUG
[15:28] <Laney> wonder where we got this guy from 👆
[15:28] <oSoMoN> inhaling too much helium will do that?
[15:35] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WpDJHKkPQW/
[15:35] <Laney> that's the most suspicious thing
[15:41] <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: thanks. i tried to do a good job of representing canonical :)
[15:48] <oSoMoN> Laney, with LAS I haven't had a chance to poke further at the librsvg build failure on ppc64el, but there's a new major version of rustc in the archive, could you trigger a rebuild for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librsvg/2.44.15-1/+build/17967714 ?
[15:49] <Laney> okey dokey
[15:50] <Laney> I'll be swap daying tomorrow but it would be nice if someone took on the task of dishing out items in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[15:50] <Laney> it seems like waiting politely for people to volunteer themselves didn't work
[15:51] <seb128> Laney, I think can do that :)
[15:51] <Laney> except oSoMoN #greatworker #promotionincoming
[15:51]  * Laney high fives seb128
[15:51] <seb128> :-)
[15:52]  * seb128 high fives back
[15:52]  * didrocks would like to volunteer people on helping fixing zfs ;)
[16:08] <oSoMoN> the librsvg failure is an actual build failure now, not a unit test failure
[16:08] <oSoMoN> not sure that counts as progress…
[16:12] <Laney> /o\
[18:08] <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: could you please add a comment here: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128803
[18:08] <Trevinho> marcustomlinson: yeah, I wanted to elaborate more once I had a patch for mutter, which I have, but I want to check few things
[18:09] <Trevinho> since per sé both LO and mutter seems to be somewhat wrong
[18:11] <marcustomlinson> Trevinho: yeah complex. I appreciate the help, thanks!
[20:02] <seb128> Trevinho, marcustomlinson, did you see the mp from Carlos to make the clipboard prefer text over image?
[20:03] <seb128> Trevinho, marcustomlinson, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/939
[20:03] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 939 in mutter "Favor text over images in clipboard manager" [Opened]
[20:03] <Trevinho> seb128: I saw that and I had something like this in mind but I preferred another way of fixing this
[20:03] <Trevinho> also because that one is creating another kind of problems imho
[20:04] <seb128> Trevinho, k, I just wanted to make sure you didn't duplicate work. Maybe you should let Carlos know on that mp if you don't like his solution?
[20:06] <Trevinho> yeah I wrote a small coment for now, but I've to go now so... a bit in rush
[20:08] <seb128> Trevinho, thx, enjoy your evening!