[05:54] <ElBarono> I still have it set to ask me where to save every file
[05:54] <robotgeek> lol!
[05:54] <Razor-X> konki: eject
[05:54] <Razor-X> eject -f if you need to force it
[05:54] <robotgeek> konki, eject
[05:54] <SG1> Razor-X: hmm, seems to do it right before runlevel 2
[05:54] <Razor-X> SG1: just wondering, anything wrong?
[05:54] <ElBarono> it doesn't do anything..  it doesn't download the file, doesn't ask me where to save it
[05:54] <konki> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[05:55] <esac_> Razor-X: any good tutorials on iptables (starting from a newbie perspective) ?
[05:55] <SG1> Razor-X: yeah, splashy gets consufed by it switching to tty2.. and exits earlier that it should.
[05:55] <user_> Okay I changed the output plugin to Esound and I Still cannot get music to play in xmms
[05:55] <ElBarono> just sits there and pretends it alread downloaded th file
[05:55] <Razor-X> konki: eject /dev/path/to/drive/
[05:55] <user_> why is this?
[05:55] <scythe> use a paperclip konki
[05:55] <Razor-X> SG1: ahhh :(
[05:55] <SG1> Razor-X: everything in run level 2 is put on tty2 not tty1
[05:55] <scythe> but power down first
[05:55] <Razor-X> try editing the runlevel crap
[05:55] <SG1> Razor-X: its quite odd.
[05:55] <btsdev> is it even possible to find out, with a default install, whether a certain kernel option is enabled on my system?
[05:55] <Computer__Guru> (thanks to bob2)
[05:55] <skalpel> does anyone use a soulseek client besides nicotine? or know if there is one that is good?
[05:55] <Razor-X> wow, you sure care about your splash ;)
[05:55] <ElBarono> btsdev: look in /boot
[05:55] <SG1> Razor-X: yeah, but wtf is switching the tty...
[05:55] <btsdev> ElBarono: Thanks.
[05:56] <ElBarono> there should be a config file for your current kernel
[05:56] <Razor-X> Computer__Guru: I have total emms control in emacs
[05:56] <user_> I changed my XMMS output to Esound and I still cannot play an mp3... what am i missing?
[05:56] <konki> scythe, paperclip??
[05:56] <Razor-X> and erc control
[05:56] <Razor-X> and esh control
[05:56] <Razor-X> ;)
[05:56] <Computer__Guru> emacs is frightening
[05:56] <SG1> Razor-X: not normally... I just decided that I would since ubuntu is already pretty good looking
[05:56] <goldfish> user_: win32codecs
[05:56] <SG1> Razor-X: :-P
[05:56] <Razor-X> !tell user_ about restrictedformats
[05:56] <robotgeek> btsdev, /etc/boot/config(whatvevet)
[05:56] <Computer__Guru> you, sir, are a freak.. and i dont care if you ARE sixteen
[05:56] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, to vim users it is!
[05:56] <cafuego> emacs is a great OS, but a shite editor.
[05:56] <Razor-X> Computer__Guru: 15
[05:56] <goldfish> vim is nice.
[05:56] <Computer__Guru> whatever
[05:56] <Computer__Guru> freak
[05:56] <Razor-X> I have a saying
[05:56] <Computer__Guru> ;)
[05:56] <user_> i got no message regarding restrictedformats
[05:56] <konki> eject: unable to find or open device for: `/dev/path/to/drive'
[05:56] <Razor-X> ``Life 'aint worth living if you 'aint living in grease''
[05:56] <goldfish> !restricted
[05:56] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:56] <robotgeek> vim forever!! (again)
[05:56] <thoreauputic> goldfish: you don't need w32codecs to play mp3 in xmms
[05:57] <goldfish> k
[05:57] <scythe> most cdroms have a very small pinhole in the front, straighten a paperclip and put it in thehole, that forces the tray out
[05:57] <Razor-X> I don't have salads, now why should I have vim?
[05:57] <mebaran151> robotgeek, though gedit is growing on me
[05:57] <vader1102> konki: if you open a paper clip and put it in that little hole, when powered down it will open the drive
[05:57] <mebaran151> and Kate is REALLY nice
[05:57] <goldfish> user_: follow that link.
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> kate is nice
[05:57] <goldfish> wine notepad.exe !
[05:57] <scythe> it will when powered up to, but its not a good idea
[05:57] <frank> lol
[05:57] <Razor-X> mebaran151: you are one of the few users I know who like a non-vim or emacs editor because they've tried everything else
[05:57] <konki> how come everytime i have a cd in i always got to restart and eject...
[05:57] <Computer__Guru> hell i didnt even use notepad in windows... i used emeditor
[05:57] <Razor-X> nalioth actually prefers nano, and he's tried 'em all too
[05:57] <scythe> i prefer pico :)
[05:57] <robotgeek> cause it's a nice text editor, unlike a certain "os" editor
[05:58] <Razor-X> most just think the others are too complicated and don't really scratch the surface ;)
[05:58] <robotgeek> oh the horror!
[05:58] <SG1> Razor-X: hey another youngster :)
[05:58] <Computer__Guru> yah by way of cli editors, nano is the shiznit.. x-oriented editors, i gotta go with kate
[05:58] <konki> vader1102, well thats why am am asking if there is any other way without shutting down...
[05:58] <user_> Goldfish im not using rythmbox im using xmms
[05:58] <Razor-X> robotgeek: that ``os'' is smaller than a Firefox session
[05:58] <user_> it says nothing about playing mp3 in xmms
[05:58] <weilawei> scythe, heh i had a friend who had a broken cd burner.. one of the ones with the slide out tray and fold up door.. every so often it wouldnt like something and it would come flying out spinning at several hundred RPM ready to decapitate someone if they were stupid enough to stand in front of the comp
[05:58] <Razor-X> yeah, X editors I love Kate
[05:58] <user_> it says to play mp3 in rhythmbox install x yada yada
[05:58] <SG1> Razor-X: vim all the way!
[05:58] <robotgeek> i just use vim all the time
[05:58] <robotgeek> even on windows boxes
[05:58] <Razor-X> I use emacs in a mini-screen session
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> xmms plays mp3's
[05:59] <calc> user_: to play mp3 you just need to install gstreamer-mad
[05:59] <SG1> robotgeek: me too
[05:59] <Computer__Guru> thats kinda why its there
[05:59] <calc> user_: er in rhythmbox
[05:59] <Razor-X> with the few apps that don't work well in the included terminal emulators of emacs
[05:59] <scythe> hehe, saw a video of someone taking an aoldisk and attaching it to a drill , power up, explode the cd
[05:59] <user_> ok
[05:59] <user_> yeah but im not using rhythmbox
[05:59] <vader1102> konki: maybe someone will tell you how to see if there is something using the drive... it sounds like it may need cleaning
[05:59] <user_> im trying to use xmms
[05:59] <Razor-X> scythe: I gave someone an AOLDisk for his birthday
[05:59] <Razor-X> he took it and threw it
[05:59] <SG1> robotgeek: the funny thing is.. Im here trying to make bootsplashes work.. when have the time im in vim/screen/tty..
[05:59] <Razor-X> I said ``Why'ld you do that?''
[05:59] <SG1> half*
[05:59] <Razor-X> he said ``It's dangerous!''
[05:59] <nalioth> mmmmm nano
[05:59] <scythe> anyone here ever call aol tech support and complain they cant get the software to install, knowing they dont support bsd?
[05:59] <scythe> :)
[05:59] <SG1> :)
[05:59] <ElBarono> oh sweet, looks like someone just uploaded 1.0.6
[06:00] <Razor-X> I said ``It's a weapon of mass destruction, you should've used it wisely''
[06:00] <konki> vader1102, cd lens cleaner??
[06:00] <user_> ive never had to install something to play mp3 in xmms
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> Razor-X:  i have the mimetype for plain/text set to open konsole -e pico OMMAND%
[06:00] <robotgeek> user_, try beep-media-player
[06:00] <vader1102> yes
[06:00] <Razor-X> Computer__Guru: hehe
[06:00] <user_> didnt really like it...
[06:00] <SG1> scythe: sounds fun.
[06:00] <user_> liked xmms better
[06:00] <robotgeek> SG1, i am on PPC, never used grub
[06:00] <vader1102> or the disk needs cleaning
[06:00] <funkyHat> ElBarono, you'll have issues upgrading to it if you've got the backported version of 1.0.4
[06:00] <nalioth> Computer__Guru: pico is not "free software"
[06:00] <Computer__Guru> i still use lilo
[06:00] <user_> I installed gstreamer0.8-mad and xmms still wont play mp3's
[06:00] <user_> ???
[06:00] <user_> problem with esound perhaps?
[06:00] <weilawei> grub!
[06:00] <Razor-X> only thing I don't like about screen, it made my esh prompt purple!
[06:00] <SG1> robotgeek: iBook?
[06:01] <Razor-X> it was a nice dark red before :(
[06:01] <scythe> nalioth, pico isnt "free"
[06:01] <Computer__Guru> nalioth:  when you install nano, a link to pico is automatically created. i have always used the command pico, and old habits die hard
[06:01] <wastrel> ah
[06:01] <Razor-X> scythe: it isn't free as in libre
[06:01] <konki> well thanks aLL.. prolly gotta restart for an EJECTULATION!
[06:01] <joevandyk> So, I got a Sound Blaster card.  Do I want to use Alsa with it?  Or stick with ESD?
[06:01] <robotgeek> SG1, powerbook
[06:01] <Razor-X> it is free as in coors
[06:01] <nalioth> scythe: yes i know, i was pointing that out to Computer__Guru
[06:01] <user_> is it alsa and not esound?
[06:01] <Razor-X> (I don't say beer anymore, because of the OSS beer)
[06:01] <Razor-X> no, even better
[06:01] <Razor-X> free as in biru
[06:01] <SG1> robotgeek: :) I run debian and OSX on my ibook
[06:01] <Computer__Guru> and i was already aware
[06:01] <Razor-X> muahahahaha!
[06:01] <scythe> ahh, thought it was gpl'd
[06:01] <nalioth> lot of mac hardware in here
[06:01] <SG1> robotgeek: I have an 80gb hd I put in myself in my iBookG4 933mhz
[06:01] <Computer__Guru> nah, pine was never gpl'd
[06:01] <robotgeek> SG1, i got rid of OS X
[06:02] <SG1> robotgeek: yaboot!
[06:02] <Computer__Guru> and pico is part of pine
[06:02] <konki> i usually turn it OFF and then TURN ON, and then EJECTULATION
[06:02] <cafuego> nalioth: The only way to get a decent 12" laptop
[06:02] <goldfish> i was using a mac g5 powerserver with a 30" monitor in a shop today, it was heaven.
[06:02] <wastrel> i killed a 6 month uptime to install ubuntu this evening :]
[06:02] <user_> XMMS isnt playing MP3 for me... I chose Esound as output... what am i doing wrong?
[06:02] <SG1> robotgeek: heh I need my Airport Extreme somtimes
[06:02] <Razor-X> is its really hard to port pico, after all?
[06:02] <wastrel> my longest uptime ever
[06:02] <nalioth> cafuego: yup
[06:02] <goldfish> user_: try alsa.
[06:02] <Computer__Guru> no
[06:02] <robotgeek> SG1, don't have one.
[06:02] <scythe> really, never knew that either
[06:02] <Razor-X> I mean, it has like 4 commands XD
[06:02] <user_> okay...
[06:02] <thoreauputic> konki: your eject problem might be solved by doing :  sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject (worked for me)
[06:02] <robotgeek> Razor-X, not allowed i think.
[06:02] <Computer__Guru> pico is ported pretty much everywhere
[06:02] <Razor-X> robotgeek: ......?
[06:02] <user_> Nope didnt work...
[06:02] <Razor-X> pico was ported to nano
[06:02] <SG1> robotgeek: well support is coming soon for them :) .. you have a pcmcia slot I dont
[06:02] <Computer__Guru> but nano is the gpl version
[06:02] <user_> Goldfish still didnt work ... I dont know why
[06:02] <thoreauputic> konki: but note that that makes it setuid root
[06:02] <vader1102> konki: try cleaning the lense and if it don't work I would be looking for another drive
[06:03] <robotgeek> SG1, the project to reverse engineer those cards is coming along pretty well!
[06:03] <Razor-X> so, what SH based shells do you people know about?
[06:03] <Razor-X> save the ksh abomination? ;)
[06:03] <SG1> robotgeek: yes, thats my point!
[06:03] <SG1> robotgeek: :)
[06:03] <cafuego> nalioth: And I expect more mac users will switch to Linux once they discover how slow Tiger is.
[06:03] <vader1102> had this prob with windows machine today
[06:03] <user_> Okay XMMS isnt playing MP3's for me, ive tried both eSound and ALSA output plugins and I still cant play mp3... what am I missing?
[06:03] <scythe> zsh
[06:03] <SG1> robotgeek: Im so happy... by the end of the year..... it might be done.
[06:03] <Razor-X> scythe: I knew that -_-
[06:03] <konki> vader1102, well i have a laptop jurassic period...
[06:03] <goldfish> user_: try beep-media-player
[06:03] <SG1> cafuego: tiger==ugh.
[06:03] <Computer__Guru> Current song: 14. System Of A Down - Mezmerize - 02 - B.Y.O.B
[06:03] <nalioth> cafuego: everyone says it's slow, but it runs quicker on my G3 than the previous ones
[06:03] <Razor-X> user_: try VLC
[06:03] <user_> okay i will
[06:03] <goldfish> Computer__Guru: nice.
[06:03] <user_> VLC?
[06:03] <Razor-X> it can play almost anything by default
[06:04] <konki> thanks thoreauputic, but it didn't work
[06:04] <SG1> or mplayer..
[06:04] <Razor-X> !vlc
[06:04] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[06:04] <cafuego> nalioth: <heh> how much ram do you have in that box?
[06:04] <goldfish> vlc is crap for playing music though :)
[06:04] <Razor-X> !info vlc
[06:04] <cs378> hi ppl, i just did apt-get install tuxkart -- how do i get to run this game? help plz wanna test my 3d acc on ati
[06:04] <rommer> goldfish: do u know where to get skins for beep media player?
[06:04] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[06:04] <nalioth> cafuego: 640 (maxxed out)
[06:04] <Computer__Guru> goldfish:  /exec -o echo current-track | xmms-shell
[06:04] <goldfish> rommer: use xmms ones.
[06:04] <Razor-X> goldfish: not really, I love it
[06:04] <vader1102> konki: so do I lol, that's what it was on....old hardware
[06:04] <robotgeek> SG1, yeah...and once the drivers are out...well, pretty much everything on Mac will work on Linux! nice!!
[06:04] <Razor-X> only, I use cplay for music
[06:04] <goldfish> Razor-X: ah :)
[06:04] <thoreauputic> konki: hmm - OK it helped me but your problem is clearly different then
[06:04] <Razor-X> if you mean it doesen't have music sugarcoating... sugar rots my teeth
[06:04] <rommer> goldfish: ok
[06:04] <SG1> robotgeek: yep, and if your in a pince we have MOL
[06:04] <SG1> robotgeek: :)
[06:04] <Razor-X> in Windows, I use it for music playing
[06:04] <goldfish> cplay rocks.
[06:04] <cafuego> nalioth: *nod* 512Mb in the mac mini and Tiger is horrendous. Then again, I've got a 1.5GB AMD64 desktop and expect *instant* action when I click stuff.
[06:04] <Razor-X> cplay kicks ass
[06:05] <Razor-X> it's one of the few apps worth a session outside of my emacs buffers
[06:05] <nalioth> cafuego: i always max the ram in my machines
[06:05] <cs378> help a newbie plz
[06:05] <cafuego> nalioth: The mac mini is going to 1Gb shortly.
[06:05] <Computer__Guru> cafuego:  how would tiger run on a g3 333mhz w/384mb ram?
[06:05] <SG1> Razor-X: have you checked out mpd?
[06:05] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to change my identd name in nullidentd?
[06:05] <Razor-X> SG1: mpd?
[06:05] <robotgeek> Razor-X, However, redistribution of a modified version of Pine requires explicit permission from the University of Washington. hence...
[06:05] <cafuego> Computer__Guru: Crap if at all.
[06:05] <SG1> Razor-X: Music Player Daemon
[06:05] <weilawei> skalpel, don't run identd
[06:05] <goldfish> music player daemon
[06:05] <SG1> Razor-X: very nice stuff
[06:05] <goldfish> it also rocks.
[06:05] <robotgeek> SG1, mostly for playing Flash Animations. i don't even bother anymore
[06:05] <Computer__Guru> yeah right on... ubuntu with fluxbox should be pretty nice tho
[06:05] <skalpel> weilawei: why not?
[06:05] <cafuego> Computer__Guru: It would run Linux very nicely, though.
[06:05] <weilawei> it literally says "hi my name is  blah" and nothing else. it's a security risk at best
[06:06] <Razor-X> SG1: cplay is juts based of mpg123 and ogg123
[06:06] <user_> This is starting to get frustrating, for some reason BMP doesnt play MP3's either... why?
[06:06] <arentie> I'm having difficulty getting the CUPS Web Admin to work...how do I enable CUPS Web Admin?
[06:06] <vader1102> nalioth: so do I, have 2 stix of 256 coming for this laptop... all it will handle
[06:06] <nalioth> cafuego: i ordered a 1.8ghzDP powermac t'other day.  Do YOU KNOW that it only ships with 128mb ram PER CPU?  positively scandalous
[06:06] <weilawei> people are deluded if they think it makes their services more secure
[06:06] <Computer__Guru> or maybe ill even run windowmaker
[06:06] <user_> I have set it to use Esound output and it wont play
[06:06] <skalpel> user_: did you set the output to esound?
[06:06] <Razor-X> weilawei: if you configure it to sayt hat
[06:06] <user_> yes!
[06:06] <SG1> Razor-X: it hides in the background ... and has lots of support for lots of things not to mention tons of clients
[06:06] <joevandyk> My default sound sink is set to alsa, and the tests (in multimedia system selector) for it work.  So, why can't xmms or the gnome sounds use it?
[06:06] <Computer__Guru> fastest wm there is, heh
[06:06] <cafuego> nalioth: yeah, luckily they're user-servicable though.
[06:06] <konki> thoreauputic, thanks it probly worked... what a command 'sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/eject'
[06:06] <SG1> Razor-X: check it out when you get bored
[06:06] <Razor-X> SG1: where can I read up on this cool thing?
[06:06] <skalpel> weilawei: how do i uninstall it?
[06:06] <goldfish> flux is nice.
[06:06] <Razor-X> and I'm thinking of changing shells too, so you UNIX users, tell me about SH based shells not including ksh and zsh
[06:06] <Razor-X> or BASH ;)
[06:06] <Computer__Guru> that'll be fun... a menu entry for each and every time you install an application, heh
[06:07] <SG1> Razor-X: BASH!
[06:07] <goldfish> why not bash? :)
[06:07] <weilawei> skalpel, using synaptic?
[06:07] <weilawei> do you mean turn it off?
[06:07] <skalpel> weilawei: okay
[06:07] <user_> Okay I am having difficulty playing MP3 in both XMMS and BMP - Output @ Esound... Why?? any ideas?
[06:07] <chaps0063> is there anything that is good to download entire websites?
[06:07] <robotgeek> SG1, i din't get what you said about vim...lost u there!
[06:07] <SG1> Razor-X: their site has been having issues..
[06:07] <joevandyk> I can use aplay to play wav's just fine.  But xmms, mplayer, etc won't play alsa sounds.
[06:07] <arentie> I'm having difficulty getting the CUPS Web Admin to work...how do I enable CUPS Web Admin?
[06:07] <cafuego> I was speaking with a an apple service person on the weeksna dn they were commenting how they'd already broken several putty knives opening up mac minis <heh>
[06:07] <SG1> robotgeek: vim is good :)
[06:07] <wastrel> bash
[06:07] <Thanatermesis> from what package provides "alsaconf" in ubuntu ?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> konki: it makes it think it is running as root ( not something you want to do too often , that chmod)
[06:07] <SG1> robotgeek: thats what I say about it ;)
[06:07] <robotgeek> SG1, i know...the screen stuff
[06:07] <Computer__Guru> user_:  is esd started? open a shell and type: sudo esd &
[06:07] <SG1> robotgeek: apt-get install screen and then man screen
[06:07] <konki> aight
[06:07] <Computer__Guru> and see if the daemon starts
[06:08] <SG1> robotgeek: screen is very nice.. useful.
[06:08] <Computer__Guru> or gives you an error
[06:08] <user_> yes
[06:08] <user_> esd is started
[06:08] <goldfish> screen is great
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Thanatermesis: ubuntu doesn't have alsaconf (don't ask)
[06:08] <user_> I get sounds in my Xorg
[06:08] <konki> anyone know how i can recover files i deleted to TRASH [just now] ?
[06:08] <user_> but no music in mp3 player
[06:08] <cafuego> konki: open trash, put the files back
[06:08] <Razor-X> well actually
[06:08] <goldfish> hmmm
[06:08] <Razor-X> PM me about the shell alternatives
[06:08] <konki> i emptied it..
[06:08] <chaps0063> site ripping software, anything good?
[06:08] <cafuego> konki: Then forget it
[06:08] <goldfish> Razor-X: fish.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> heh - they aint in the trash then heh heh
[06:08] <Computer__Guru> open the preferences of xmms, and on the first plugins tab, click configure driver, and make sure it matches your xorg settings
[06:08] <robotgeek> SG1, i had it installed already...hmm, gonna use it for editing python code, i think!
[06:08] <tech> hello..  i need help. in some applications, my charset is not correct, or atleast it cant display foreign characters..
[06:08] <Razor-X> I _do_ have finals tomorrow (last day of them), and even though I know the stuff, I should continue cramming
[06:09] <konki> i had my commands in there...
[06:09] <weilawei> skalpel, if you just want to disable it, it's either an inetd service or a normal daemon. if it's inetd service, you comment the line out in /etc/inetd.conf and if it's running as a standalone, you can use update-rc.d identd remove
[06:09] <Thanatermesis> thoreauputic, how to posible to not have alsaconf ?
[06:09] <Computer__Guru> Razor-X:  if you know it, dont bother yourself with it. you'll do fine.
[06:09] <robotgeek> chaps0063, thry searching for httptrack on google
[06:09] <Razor-X> Computer__Guru: I have a tendancy to do stupid mistakes
[06:09] <Computer__Guru> no sense in studying somethig thats already been committed to memory
[06:09] <Razor-X> so, practice is of the essence
[06:09] <Computer__Guru> ah
[06:09] <thoreauputic> Thanatermesis: apparently they decided it caused more problems than it solved
[06:09] <Razor-X> that and my dad's gonna shout a storm at me
[06:09] <Computer__Guru> gotchya
[06:09] <Razor-X> so, yeah ;)
[06:10] <SG1> Razor-X: apt-get install mpd when your done with them ;)
[06:10] <chaps0063> robotgeek: thanks.
[06:10] <Computer__Guru> you live in .au right?
[06:10] <SG1> Razor-X: musicpd.org is deadish right now.
[06:10] <SG1> Razor-X: :(
[06:10] <tech> is there something i should install for having ubuntu display foreign characters  correctly?
[06:10] <SG1> Razor-X: its nice though.. controllable via ncurses,gtk,web,or plain old command line clients
[06:10] <konki> cafuego, is there a ubuntu landfill where i can search for my trash??
[06:10] <SG1> Razor-X: web is php fyi
[06:10] <Computer__Guru> the locale for that language would probably be a good idea
[06:10] <efigyidol> where is the default vsftpd root set?
[06:11] <wastrel> konki if you empty trash, it's gone
[06:11] <konki> .list or something??
[06:11] <user_> user      7417  0.0  0.7   5444  4040 ?        S    20:04   0:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[06:11] <user_> I really dont understand why i cant get mp3's to play
[06:11] <Computer__Guru> dude
[06:11] <robotgeek> wastrel, wudn't undelete work ??
[06:11] <user_> Can anyone shine some light?
[06:11] <weilawei> !tell olaf about aol
[06:11] <Computer__Guru> your username is user?
[06:11] <user_> yeah
[06:11] <Computer__Guru> thats kinda cool, heh
[06:11] <konki> user_, play it w/VLC
[06:11] <user_> Im frustrated i cant play mp3's
[06:11] <user_> what's VLC?
[06:11] <konki> all kine of files
[06:12] <user_> Why should I have to use VLC.... it wont work in XMMS or BMP
[06:12] <SG1> user_: what does xmms/bmp do?
[06:12] <user_> it says Please check that:
[06:12] <robotgeek> user_, we are trying to eliminate causes of error here!
[06:12] <konki> plays most medias... VLC media player...
[06:12] <user_> Sound card is configured
[06:12] <user_> Sound card is not in use
[06:12] <SG1> user_: wait
[06:12] <user_> Etc...
[06:12] <SG1> user_: ok
[06:12] <SG1> user_: go into xmms's prefs
[06:12] <user_> I set it to esound already
[06:12] <SG1> user_: make sure its set to alsa
[06:12] <arentie> I'm having difficulty getting the CUPS Web Admin to work...how do I enable CUPS Web Admin?
[06:12] <SG1> user_: ah
[06:12] <user_> I set to both ALSA and Esound
[06:12] <SG1> user_: right gnome
[06:12] <regeya_> user_ you probably have esd running in the background, and xmms and bmp probably aren't set to use esd...that's just a guess...listen to SG1...
[06:13] <user_> and still doesnt work
[06:13] <regeya_> meep.
[06:13] <SG1> user_: do you have a light-weight wm installed?
[06:13] <user_> I set it to Esound regeya
[06:13] <wastrel> robotgeek, dunno never used it
[06:13] <user_> SG1 : Like fluxbox or something?
[06:13] <bimberi> arentie: Web based CUPS admin is disabled. Use System > Administration > Printing in Gnome
[06:13] <Computer__Guru> user_:  did you configure the esound driver in xmms?
[06:13] <SG1> user_: yeah fluxbox would do
[06:13] <SG1> Computer__Guru: he said he tried it
[06:13] <user_> Comp : Not really how should i configure it?
[06:13] <user_> it had a few limited options
[06:13] <Computer__Guru> he said he set it, he didnt say anything about configuring
[06:14] <chaps0063> robotgeek: dude, this is working great.
[06:14] <Computer__Guru> user_:  lok at the settings gnome has for esd, then make sure yours match in xmms
[06:14] <user_> okay...
[06:14] <Computer__Guru> lemme look at it
[06:14] <DekaPink> Yay, back on Ubuntu <3
[06:14] <user_> where is that control panel for Gnome Sound Settings
[06:14] <robotgeek> esound sucked for me, i use the OSS setting...weird, but it works great!
[06:14] <robotgeek> chaps0063, no problem!
[06:14] <user_> Really? hmm
[06:14] <Computer__Guru> i dont know, i use kde
[06:15] <thoreauputic> user_: some people have had success by installing libmikmod2 I think - but it should be installed as a dep anyway ( dpkg -l libmikmod2 to see )
[06:15] <Computer__Guru> hrmm
[06:15] <SG1> ah yeah that was a issue
[06:15] <vader1102> konki, bimberi, everyone....night going to bed and maybe I will wake up in a better mood!
[06:15] <SG1> thoreauputic: but it wont give an error I dont think.. it just doesnt do anything
[06:15] <user_> it wasnt installed thor
[06:15] <user_> im installing it now
[06:15] <Computer__Guru> hey, try telling xmms to connect to a host for esd, and specify your box's ip address
[06:16] <SG1> thoreauputic: it gives the mikmod error in console
[06:16] <Computer__Guru> im curious :D
[06:16] <konki> vader1102, g'nite thanks
[06:16] <user_> Still doesnt work....
[06:16] <thoreauputic> hmm
[06:16] <Computer__Guru> ah well, twas worth a shot
[06:16] <Computer__Guru> that one really SHOULD work
[06:16] <SG1> user_: kill esound
[06:16] <SG1> user_: set xmms to alsa
[06:16] <user_> Why.... i need esound :(
[06:16] <SG1> user_: play music
[06:16] <user_> I want sound channels
[06:16] <ramblingturtle> how would i go about downloading but not installing packages with apt-get to a specific directory
[06:16] <SG1> user_: lol.
[06:16] <user_> I want to hear the blips and bleeps
[06:16] <user_> when i switch tasks and such
[06:16] <Computer__Guru> does esound support ac3 decoding?
[06:16] <SG1> user_: I personally have hardware mixing.. so I never run into this.
[06:17] <Computer__Guru> that'd be nice to get my 5.1 goin
[06:17] <user_> i should have hardware mixing this is a 2003 machine
[06:17] <thoreauputic> ramblingturtle: use the -d option (not sure on the specific directory)
[06:17] <wastrel> ok what repository do i find nethack in?
[06:17] <Computer__Guru> user_:  hardware mixing was actually more common with older, better built sound cards
[06:17] <SG1> Computer__Guru: my 5.1 works :)
[06:17] <SG1> Computer__Guru: actually 7.1 but hey
[06:17] <user_> Windows XP Plays multiple sounds at once
[06:17] <user_> on this machine
[06:17] <Computer__Guru> one of the first to have hardware mixing was the pro-audio spectrum
[06:18] <rob^> !alsa
[06:18] <ubotu> rob^: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:18] <Computer__Guru> probablyt he best stereo card ever produced
[06:18] <rob^> hmm
[06:18] <rob^> theres a way to do it user_
[06:18] <Computer__Guru> SG1:  you using esd?
[06:18] <rob^> !sound
[06:18] <ubotu> [sound]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:18] <SG1> Computer__Guru: nope
[06:18] <thoreauputic> wastrel: nethack is in universe
[06:18] <SG1> Computer__Guru: My card supports ardware mixing
[06:18] <user_> bah man im about to give up
[06:18] <SG1> Computer__Guru: all is alsa here
[06:18] <thoreauputic> wastrel: apt-cache policy nethack to see
[06:18] <user_> ive never had problems playing mp3's efore
[06:18] <SG1> user_: try artsd?
[06:18] <SG1> user_: XD
[06:18] <user_> lol
[06:18] <user_> > >
[06:18] <wastrel> thoreauputic, unable to locate package nethack :]
[06:19] <Computer__Guru> SG1:  I'll have to play with the config then.. i have a built in i810 audio card and it says it has ac3
[06:19] <wastrel> thoreauputic, just finished install, need to add stuff to sources.list ......
[06:19] <user_> i have i810 too i think
[06:19] <thoreauputic> wastrel: then you need to add the universe repo
[06:19] <Computer__Guru> and i have ac3 compatible speakers
[06:19] <bimberi> user_: do you have any sound at all? (eg. system sounds)?
[06:19] <SG1> Computer__Guru: i810 anything can be odd...
[06:19] <Computer__Guru> i'd LOVE to have 5.1 :)
[06:19] <user_> i have an intel ich 5
[06:19] <SG1> Computer__Guru: hmm
[06:19] <user_> Yes! Gnome has sound effects
[06:19] <SG1> Computer__Guru: I have a friend with an i810
[06:19] <Computer__Guru> I'll just play with the config
[06:19] <user_> sound works in gnome just doesnt work in media player
[06:19] <SG1> Computer__Guru: I'll ask him next time hes on
[06:19] <wastrel> what is 'restricted' repo?
[06:19] <user_> cant play mp3
[06:20] <Computer__Guru> ok, but ill probably have it done by then :D
[06:20] <Dorfl> Hi. As you can see now, my router isn't having any trouble letting me connect to IRC (and it isn't my ISP either - I've just checked two) when I'm on XP. How do I go about fixing the problem in Ubuntu?
[06:20] <joevandyk> How come I don't see alsa-esd in my synaptic?  i'm running with 64 bits, btw
[06:20] <SG1> user_: so esd works.... oddness
[06:20] <user_> yeah
[06:20] <crimsun> user_: which media player application?
[06:20] <SG1> Dorfl: do you have dhcp on your network?
[06:20] <user_> Sound is working in Gnome just fine
[06:20] <user_> Crimsun : Ive tried both xmms and bmp
[06:20] <user_> Both do not play with Esound plugin selected
[06:20] <crimsun> user_: change the output plugins on those to esound
[06:20] <Dorfl> SG1: I think so.
[06:20] <user_> Been there done that crimsun
[06:20] <SG1> Dorfl: what happens on ubuntu?
[06:21] <olaf> anyone know of pengaol works on ubuntu?
[06:21] <bimberi> user_: Applications -> Sound & Video -> Volume Control - check settings there
[06:21] <crimsun> user_: what's your default sink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector ?
[06:21] <Razor-X> man, does my attention span wander...
[06:21] <user_> bimberi Volume is OKAy sounds are heard from Gnome
[06:21] <Computer__Guru> Current song: 19. System of a Down - Revenga
[06:21] <user_> One sec crimsun Ill check
[06:21] <Dorfl> It is stuck on "trying to connect" or something similar. HTTP works just fine.
[06:21] <SG1> Razor-X: back to irc we see
[06:21] <Razor-X> I just called Leo Laporte: ``The Tech Equivalent of Elvis''
[06:21] <user_> Output : ESD
[06:21] <SG1> Dorfl: possible that dns-round robins hated you
[06:21] <Dorfl> Trying to connect to the IRC servers, that is.
[06:21] <bimberi> user_: yes - got that - still could be a setting tho
[06:21] <user_> Crimsun output is ESD
[06:21] <SG1> Dorfl: next time try the ip of the server
[06:22] <user_> Bimberi my problem is not with audio volume, its that it refuses to open the device and shows a dialog
[06:22] <SG1> Dorfl: you can get that by running host irc.freenode.net in console
[06:22] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: heh - he'd love that - he used to be a DJ :)
[06:22] <user_> I get this error when trying to play MP3's
[06:22] <SG1> Razor-X: lol...
[06:22] <btsdev> I'm trying to install madwifi... I'm following a recent HOWTO on the ubuntu forums and they told me to 'apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386' and later sets a variable KERNELPATH to /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386 but i don't have that folder.. i only have a 2.6.10-5 and a 2.6.10 *headers* folder.  was i supposed to download the kernel source, too?
[06:22] <bimberi> user_: k - I'll stop hassling you
[06:22] <Dorfl> SG1: OK, thanks. But... can't I fix it so the dns thingie works fine?
[06:22] <SG1> Dorfl: that might be a bind issue
[06:22] <Razor-X> SG1: I said that ``I'll bet some geek girl will see you, go swoon, and fall because she saw The Leo Laporte''
[06:22] <Dorfl> That is?
[06:22] <tech> is there a way to reconfigure ubuntu? i want to change some settings i did in the installation
[06:22] <Razor-X> I hope he notices that ;)
[06:22] <SG1> Razor-X: lool.
[06:22] <Computer__Guru> btsdev:  it seems it would have made you do that when it installed the headers
[06:23] <SG1> Dorfl: the software that does dns
[06:23] <goldfish> tech: whatsettings?
[06:23] <Computer__Guru> but it might be in /usr/include
[06:23] <Computer__Guru> ill check
[06:23] <tech> goldfish, charset
[06:23] <wastrel> can't install pymol -> broken dependency.  what should i do?
[06:23] <Dorfl> I'm a total newbie. Speak plain Gibberish please.
[06:23] <user_> HEres my error
[06:23] <user_> Please check that:
[06:23] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: yea that's what i thought but "ls /usr/src" only shows 2 headers folders... 2.6.10 2.6.10-5
[06:23] <SG1> Dorfl: the other thing is.. its possible... that the server the round-robin picked wasdead
[06:23] <user_> Your soundcard is configured properly.
[06:23] <SG1> Dorfl: so...
[06:24] <user_> You have the correct output plugin selected.
[06:24] <Dorfl> I tried several. Including this one.
[06:24] <user_> No other program is blocking out the soundcard.
[06:24] <SG1> Dorfl:I see.
[06:24] <SG1> Dorfl: hrm, thats a new one..
[06:24] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: thanks for checking.
[06:24] <SG1> Dorfl: fresh ubuntu install?
[06:24] <joevandyk> Why can't mplayer or xmms use alsa when aplay works fine?
[06:24] <Dorfl> Yes.,
[06:24] <user_> Im gonna try mpg123
[06:24] <user_> se eif that can play mp3's
[06:24] <Computer__Guru> it's 2.6.10-5, the -386 is a metapackage
[06:25] <rob^> what fax program does everyone use?
[06:25] <user_> Okay mpg123 says cant find suitable libao driver (is audio device in use?)
[06:25] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: hmm i'm not really sure how to get a /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-5-386 folder like the guide has :/
[06:26] <user_> Basically the same error xmms and bmp give me
[06:26] <Computer__Guru> btsdev:  it's installed in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[06:26] <Razor-X> user_: is some other app using audio?
[06:26] <Computer__Guru> just make the adjustment, it'll be fine
[06:26] <user_> razor : i have esd running
[06:26] <user_> but it supports mixing doesnt it?
[06:26] <Computer__Guru> or
[06:26] <wastrel> any hints on installing pymol?
[06:26] <Razor-X> user_: no
[06:26] <user_> i thought it's a mixer
[06:26] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: oh.. so set the environment variables to THAT folder... sweet
[06:26] <user_> how do i get it to support mixing
[06:26] <Razor-X> user_: not by default, unless your alsa does
[06:26] <thoreauputic> user_: have you tried "killall esd" before running xmms ?
[06:26] <joevandyk> Anyone know why I can't play sounds with alsa with xmms or mplayer?
[06:26] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: thanks.  i'll give it a whorl.
[06:27] <user_> do i need a special esound.conf
[06:27] <user_> ?
[06:27] <Razor-X> you have to do some editing to your alsa stuff
[06:27] <Computer__Guru> mv linux-headers-2.6.10-5 linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[06:27] <user_> for mixer
[06:27] <Computer__Guru> or whatever
[06:27] <Razor-X> and maybe your esound.conf, I believe
[06:27] <jasoncohen> why is resizing of firefox so unsmooth/slow?
[06:27] <user_> ok
[06:27] <goldfish> alsamixer
[06:27] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, did you ever link me to that page about the Via Envy
[06:27] <mebaran151> is it as a good a card as my old Audigy 2
[06:27] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  no, gimme a sec, i forgot
[06:27] <mebaran151> I would love to not have to buy another Creative car dagain
[06:27] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: creative cards are good
[06:28] <cs378> What those this mean: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:28] <HrdwrBoB> (for linux)
[06:28] <mebaran151> HrdwrBoB, yeah, but I have a SFF
[06:28] <mebaran151> with Via Envy
[06:28] <btsdev> Computer__Guru: I'm in business. thanks.
[06:28] <wastrel> pymol:  Depends: python (< 2.4) but 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[06:28] <mebaran151> I hope it is supported ...
[06:28] <wastrel> E: Broken packages
[06:28] <cs378> nvm got it
[06:28] <La_PaRCa> cs378, it means you have one instance of synaptic already running
[06:28] <Computer__Guru> yo is it an eden or an envy?
[06:28] <HrdwrBoB> mebaran151: envy is supported
[06:28] <thoreauputic> cs378: you probably have another apt/synaptic/dpkg instance running
[06:28] <cs378> La_paRCa: yeah, thx
[06:28] <user_> does anyone have the custom esound.conf for mixing?
[06:28] <user_> or know where i can grab it
[06:28] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, eden is a really cool microprocessor
[06:28] <Razor-X> user_: read up on alsa and dmix
[06:28] <user_> so i can have esd running and play mp3's
[06:29] <mebaran151> Envy is a snd card
[06:29] <mebaran151> that is my next step
[06:29] <user_> razor : esd wont support mixing?
[06:29] <Razor-X> user_: no you can have esd up and play mp3s
[06:29] <joevandyk> I just bought a sound blaster card, but mplayer won't play sounds using alsa.
[06:29] <mebaran151> compiling Linux for Eden
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> oh durp
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> holdon
[06:29] <Razor-X> just can't have two of them at once
[06:29] <Razor-X> esd uses alsa
[06:29] <joevandyk> anyone know why?
[06:29] <user_> RazorX : Its not working
[06:29] <user_> RazorX : Esd is up, xmms wont play mp3's
[06:29] <Razor-X> user_: did you try ``killall esd'' ?
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  go to alsa.org and see if the chipset is supported :)
[06:29] <Razor-X> and then try playing it again?
[06:29] <user_> Why should I have to kill esd if it supports mixing?
[06:29] <mebaran151> but I dont know what kind of arch Eden is
[06:29] <mebaran151> is ARM
[06:29] <Razor-X> user_: ....... it doesen't support mixign
[06:29] <mebaran151> or x86
[06:29] <Razor-X> s/mixign/mixing/
[06:29] <user_> Oh heres something funny
[06:29] <Computer__Guru> eden is x86, i believe
[06:30] <user_> I killed esd and xmms still doesnt play mp3's
[06:30] <Razor-X> but mixing and mp3s don't have anything to do with each other
[06:30] <mebaran151> what c flags do I mix in to a Via Eden processor
[06:30] <Razor-X> mixing allows you to play two simeltaneous streams
[06:30] <Razor-X> odd....
[06:30] <user_> RazorX : I want the blips and bleeps from gnome and be able to play music simultaenously
[06:30] <thoreauputic> user_: we are troubleshooting... if killing esd works you know esd is the problem, right?
[06:30] <user_> when i kill esd i lose the blips and bleeps in gnome
[06:30] <Computer__Guru> www.via.com.tw click products, then processors, then eden or eden-n
[06:30] <user_> No killing esd didnt work
[06:30] <Razor-X> blips and bleeps are generally overridden if you're playing something
[06:30] <f4phantom2500> hello
[06:30] <user_> razor todays sound cards support multiplexing
[06:30] <Razor-X> user_: not all of them
[06:30] <user_> you can do multiple sound cards
[06:30] <crimsun> user_: not all.
[06:30] <user_> multiple sound effects
[06:30] <Razor-X> very few support multiplexing by default
[06:31] <user_> mine does...
[06:31] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, it doesnt talk about Linux much
[06:31] <Razor-X> user_: well, is it Linux compatibile?
[06:31] <mebaran151> I want to use those nifty cryptographic features
[06:31] <f4phantom2500> i had a real quick question...at least i hope its real quick
[06:31] <joevandyk> Razor-X, Soundblaster's should support it, right?
[06:31] <skalpel> hi, did someone say my name?
[06:31] <Razor-X> joevandyk: doubt it
[06:31] <user_> anyways I killed esd and i still cant play mp3...
[06:31] <mebaran151> skalpel, we did nt
[06:31] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  i believe arch=i686 is appropriate, i586 is definately well suited
[06:31] <Razor-X> there's only one that works will in Linux
[06:31] <Razor-X> (something by Creative, I believe)
[06:31] <user_> my Sigmatel's worked w/ mixing
[06:31] <joevandyk> uh, Soundblaster Lives?
[06:31] <Razor-X> user_: in what OS?
[06:31] <user_> my last dell supported it
[06:31] <user_> both winxp and linux
[06:31] <crimsun> not all sblives do.
[06:32] <user_> this one supports it in winxp but i havent gotten it to work in linux yet
[06:32] <Razor-X> user_: WinXP uses software
[06:32] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  show me the specs on this laptop
[06:32] <Razor-X> if i'm not mistaken
[06:32] <f4phantom2500> does ne1 no how to access files on my windows drive while in ubuntu?
[06:32] <Razor-X> and your linux distro might have had multiplexing by default
[06:32] <goldfish> f4phantom2500: mount the drive.
[06:32] <f4phantom2500> how?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[06:32] <user_> Well what would be the problem if i killed ESD and I still cannot play mp3's?
[06:32] <ubotu> I heard mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:32] <user_> ESD played sounds FINE.... xmms and bmp do not
[06:33] <crimsun> user_: if you killed esd, then how is the esound output plugin supposed to work?
[06:33] <robotgeek> lol
[06:33] <Razor-X> user_: did you try alsaplayer?
[06:33] <user_> What should I change my output plugin to?
[06:33] <Computer__Guru> thats why i dont like esd
[06:33] <Razor-X> you have to restart esd
[06:33] <mebaran151> the Via Envy looks almost as nice as my old Audigy 2, without all the resampling nonsense
[06:33] <crimsun> user_: or use alsa or oss
[06:33] <thoreauputic> user_: if you kill esd you'll need to select oss or alsa as output in xmms
[06:33] <robotgeek> poor guy, must be all confused!
[06:33] <user_> MP3 works now
[06:33] <user_> no bass though .. sub woofer isnt workin lol
[06:33] <crimsun> user_: when did you kill esd?
[06:33] <mebaran151> Razor-X, why why hwy
[06:34] <crimsun> user_: adjust the LFE and/or Surround elements in your mixer
[06:34] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  yeah, it's a good chip. you're getting an eden in it too? where can i see the specs ont his notebook?
[06:34] <Razor-X> mebaran151: I think arTS works better than esd, IMO
[06:34] <mebaran151> I think Esd and Arts are equal evils of equal natures
[06:34] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, no specs
[06:34] <andres> Menu Editor
[06:34] <andres> Nama: K3b
[06:34] <andres> Command: gksudo /usr/bin/k3b
[06:34] <andres> Icon: /usr/share/pixmaps/k3b.xpm
[06:34] <andres> Category: Accesorios
[06:34] <f4phantom2500> does the fact that windows is on a different hard drive effect this at all?
[06:34] <andres>  Pulsa Guarda
[06:34] <andres> como hacer eso ?
[06:34] <mebaran151> built it myself
[06:34] <f4phantom2500> i mean is it the same process?
[06:34] <HrdwrBoB> Razor-X: no, arts is more evil
[06:34] <Computer__Guru> no shit
[06:34] <Computer__Guru> where?
[06:34] <mebaran151> it is the built in mother board
[06:34] <Razor-X> Andares: #ubuntu-es
[06:34] <mebaran151> well I went o Fries
[06:34] <Razor-X> HrdwrBoB: it cooperates for me *shrugs*
[06:34] <mebaran151> it is in on eof the HTPC's
[06:34] <mebaran151> no name brand
[06:34] <user_> lol wtf dude my sub woofer doesnt work
[06:34] <user_> ><
[06:34] <mebaran151> 350 watt power and PCI-E
[06:34] <HrdwrBoB> Razor-X: I'm sure it does, but it's still more evil :)
[06:34] <mebaran151> very interesting setup
[06:35] <Razor-X> haha
[06:35] <brian__> ok where is bob2?
[06:35] <skalpel> does anyone know of a client for soulseek besides nicotine that works well?
[06:35] <Razor-X> subwoofers are for people with money
[06:35] <Razor-X> which I obviously don't have ;)
[06:35] <mebaran151> Razor-X, like me!
[06:35] <Computer__Guru> what's the site for the via based system & mobo
[06:35] <Computer__Guru> and does the screen come with?
[06:35] <Razor-X> mebaran151: my parents have lots of money ;)
[06:35] <mebaran151> hmmm, I will find it
[06:35] <brian__> damn
[06:35] <Razor-X> I don't though, heh
[06:35] <mebaran151> Razor-X, try the monsoon line of speakers
[06:35] <mebaran151> crystal claer highs
[06:35] <Razor-X> mebaran151: how much do they cost?
[06:35] <f4phantom2500> im trying to access files from windows; its on a different drive than ubuntu, do i still go through the same process with mounting it and all?
[06:35] <user_> okay well i have to say this sound support is cheesy :(
[06:36] <user_> my sub woofer isnt even working lol
[06:36] <f4phantom2500> i have an audigy es...works fine
[06:36] <Razor-X> user_: I don't think it'll work by default
[06:36] <joevandyk> Why won't mplayer play alsa sounds correctly?
[06:36] <user_> maybe it's a windows xp thing
[06:36] <SG1> lol.
[06:36] <robotgeek> i have a nice headphones!
[06:36] <Computer__Guru> i got a $35 ac3 surround system at wal*mart that sounds like a $300 system.
[06:36] <user_> its a inspiron 9100 w/ built in subwoofer
[06:36] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: sudo fdisk -l to see your drives and partitions
[06:36] <user_> laptop
[06:36] <user_> its prolly triggered by software
[06:36] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, and you lie!
[06:36] <f4phantom2500> it only shows up linux partitions
[06:36] <user_> which Linux doesnt have
[06:36] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  excuse me?
[06:37] <mebaran151> jk
[06:37] <crimsun> joevandyk: are you using -ao alsa ?
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> heh
[06:37] <f4phantom2500> should it still show the windows one since its on a different drive?
[06:37] <bob2> brian__: ?
[06:37] <rommer> how can i change the style of text boxes and such
[06:37] <joevandyk> crimsun, yup
[06:37] <brian__> ok i just purchased cedaga
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> seriously, it sounds great
[06:37] <mebaran151> I am skeptical of the cheap nature of the expensive sounding speaker systems
[06:37] <user_> brian : Does it work with ffxi?
[06:37] <brian__> it will support ubuntu?
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> no hiss, no buzz... nice deep bass, piercing highs, no distortion at VERY high volume
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> excellent little setup..
[06:37] <user_> I want to get cedega to play FFXI in linux but i heard it doesnt work well
[06:37] <crimsun> joevandyk: are you using the versions compiled by Ubuntu?
[06:37] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, do you know if there are any software DTS-ES decoders for Linux
[06:37] <robotgeek> i got my headphones for abt 13$, and they have worked great for 2 years now!
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> would like to add an external sub though
[06:37] <mebaran151> or Dolby Digital
[06:37] <joevandyk> crimsun, not of mplayer
[06:37] <Computer__Guru> i dunno
[06:38] <brian__> i purchased a whole year
[06:38] <mebaran151> I would like to do to make it work
[06:38] <brian__> and i am lost
[06:38] <Randall64> Anyone happen to upgrade to a breezy libc6 in hoary?
[06:38] <crimsun> joevandyk: you compiled mplayer yourself?
[06:38] <Computer__Guru> im trying to find out if my ac3 i810 can output 5.1 :)
[06:38] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: presumably your windows installation is on /dev/hda1 (unless you did something fancy)
[06:38] <bob2> brian__: talk to transgaming
[06:38] <Computer__Guru> Current song: 23. Alice In Chains - Man In The Box
[06:38] <mebaran151> crimsun, shouldnt you?
[06:38] <joevandyk> crimsun, yes
[06:38] <crimsun> joevandyk: dpkg -l libasound2-dev|grep ^ii
[06:38] <brian__> oh great
[06:38] <crimsun> mebaran151: no, it's not necessary
[06:38] <f4phantom2500> hmm...yeah probably; nothin fancy
[06:38] <mebaran151> crimsun, but you guys always compile it badly
[06:38] <jasmuz> Computer__Guru: i doubt it
[06:38] <robotgeek> Computer__Guru, the xmms plugin?
[06:38] <f4phantom2500> ooo pfft im an idiot
[06:38] <mebaran151> no largefile support
[06:39] <brian__> bob2 is good for nothin
[06:39] <mebaran151> no xvid support out of the box
[06:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: how so?
[06:39] <f4phantom2500> the window was too small for me to see the top part
[06:39] <brian__> apparently
[06:39] <bob2> brian__: thanks!
[06:39] <f4phantom2500> i only saw the results for hdb
[06:39] <brian__> np!
[06:39] <f4phantom2500> thanks
[06:39] <bob2> brian__: you can apply for a full refund
[06:39] <mebaran151> no SSE2 or anything fancy, even on amd64
[06:39] <robotgeek> :)
[06:39] <bob2> brian__: you gave them money, presumably they give you support
[06:39] <brian__> i dont want to just give up
[06:39] <mebaran151> so a good custom compile makes it very fast
[06:39] <Micksa> um
[06:39] <joevandyk> crimsun, crap, installing libasound2-dev
[06:39] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: :) heheh
[06:39] <Micksa> how long has mozilla been uninstallable on hoary for?
[06:39] <bob2> brian__: they didn't give you any sintructions at all?
[06:39] <mebaran151> brian__, transgaming knows it software better than we do
[06:39] <Micksa> hang on...
[06:39] <trevi> what happend Brian...
[06:39] <crimsun> mebaran151: sure, but that doesn't necessarily suit our general audience
[06:39] <crimsun> joevandyk: heh, thought so.
[06:39] <Computer__Guru> jasmuz:  i might have to do some manual compiling and installing, but i'll bet you someone's written a driver for it.. if it works in windows, they like to make sure it works in linux too.. especially if it's a high circulation card, like onboards, especially intel onboards
[06:40] <joevandyk> crimsun, what's the difference between alsa and esd?  which one should i use?
[06:40] <Tommo> How do i install a gnome splash screen?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Micksa: it is installable - I installed it yesterday
[06:40] <mebaran151> crimsun, but couldnt you statically compile in SSE2 for the AMD64 guys out there
[06:40] <mebaran151> every 64 bit cpu does them
[06:40] <joevandyk> with esd, i have mplayer and xmms playing sounds at the same time.
[06:40] <brian__> Im just about embark on a long journey
[06:40] <mebaran151> and largefile support does cost anything
[06:40] <crimsun> joevandyk: esd makes things easier in the short term. You may gain better performance with alsa directly.
[06:40] <brian__> just thought i could get some help here
[06:40] <trevi> about the GOTY stuff?
[06:40] <robotgeek> joevandyk, with esd, my sound really craps out!
[06:40] <joevandyk> crimsun, but alsa just supports one sound at a time, right?
[06:41] <crimsun> joevandyk: correct, unless your hardware does multiopen natively.
[06:41] <kakalto> is there a guide or something to tweaking ubuntu?
[06:41] <mebaran151> crimsun, does the Via Envy support that
[06:42] <f4phantom2500> thoreauputic:  thanks man, looks like it worked
[06:42] <Computer__Guru> agpgart: Detected an Intel i845 Chipset.
[06:42] <thoreauputic> Micksa: just FYI - mozilla is now invoked as mozilla-suite
[06:42] <kakalto> anyone?
[06:42] <Computer__Guru> intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 79038 usecs
[06:42] <Computer__Guru> intel8x0: clocking to 41162
[06:42] <user_> my built in subwoofer doesnt work
[06:42] <joevandyk> crimsun, I just got a sound blaster live card
[06:42] <crimsun> mebaran151: what's the underlying chipset?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: you're welcome :)
[06:42] <mebaran151> a Via Envy
[06:42] <Computer__Guru> ac97 is 7.1, no?
[06:42] <joevandyk> crimsun, not sure if it does or not
[06:42] <user_> w/ oss on my inspiron 9100
[06:42] <crimsun> joevandyk: which sblive?
[06:42] <mebaran151> Envy 24PT
[06:42] <joevandyk> 24 bits
[06:42] <mebaran151> it has very good SNR
[06:42] <jasmuz> kakalto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31094&highlight=setting+ubuntu+network
[06:42] <crimsun> joevandyk: no, you'll need to use dmix.
[06:42] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, nope
[06:42] <joevandyk> dmix?
[06:42] <f4phantom2500> thoreauputic:  do i have to do this every time i want to access files on it, or is this mount permanent?
[06:43] <mebaran151> that is new Azalia Intel standard
[06:43] <robotgeek> dmix and alsa.
[06:43] <Computer__Guru> so its ac3
[06:43] <crimsun> mebaran151: the snd-hda-intel driver powers that. It does not do multiopen natively.
[06:43] <kakalto> jasmuz, is it there?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: to make it permanent you need a line in /etc/fstab for it
[06:43] <Computer__Guru> okay, either way, it'll do
[06:43] <jasmuz> kakalto: search
[06:43] <twermund> what are yall talking about?
[06:43] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  did you ever tell me what site you bought the bare system from?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: see the bottom of the page ubotu gives below
[06:43] <Micksa> okay, it was a mirror problem.
[06:43] <Micksa> never mind.
[06:44] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, no site
[06:44] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[06:44] <ubotu> rumour has it, mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:44] <mebaran151> Fry's Electronics
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> oh
[06:44] <mebaran151> it was in a little case
[06:44] <mebaran151> all alone
[06:44] <crimsun> joevandyk: there are some tips for dmix on alsa.opensrc.org under AlsaSharing
[06:44] <robotgeek> mebaran151: the one with lindows?
[06:44] <mebaran151> like the hardware they dont know what to do with
[06:44] <mebaran151> robotgeek, nope
[06:44] <mebaran151> it is a bare motherbaord CPU combo
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> hahaha
[06:44] <jazzanova> hi
[06:44] <jazzanova> just installed ubuntu
[06:44] <mebaran151> 1 ghz Eden with Via Envy onboard
[06:44] <robotgeek> mebaran151: i saw one for 199, with lindows on it
[06:44] <f4phantom2500> thoreauputic:  oh yeah i think i did that in a walkthrough of sorts on the ubuntu site
[06:44] <Computer__Guru> whatd u pay for it?
[06:44] <mebaran151> 200 something
[06:45] <nicedreams> what do you type to install kde on ubuntu hoary?
[06:45] <mebaran151> closer to 300 than 200
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> this is a laptop right?
[06:45] <mebaran151> no
[06:45] <nicedreams> kubuntu-desktop?
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> oh
[06:45] <The_Vox> nicedreams: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:45] <mebaran151> just a SFF
[06:45] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: the "auto" option in fstab makes it mount on boot
[06:45] <nicedreams> the--dud, thx
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> i thought you had a laptop
[06:45] <mebaran151> without anything else
[06:45] <f4phantom2500> i see
[06:45] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, I do from Dell
[06:45] <f4phantom2500> thanks man
[06:45] <nicedreams> just wanted to make sure before i install it
[06:45] <Computer__Guru> ah
[06:46] <mebaran151> I am going to figure out away to stream movies to it from my main rig
[06:46] <robotgeek> dells are just too expensive, and they are supposedly the cheapest around
[06:46] <mebaran151> I wonder if I could hack the hardware encrypter to do the MPEG4 codec
[06:46] <nicedreams> does having both gnome and kde slow the system down any?  like if i'm in gnome, are kde components running in the background?
[06:46] <mebaran151> that would be SWEET
[06:46] <robotgeek> mebaran151: check out some of bbc's open source stuff
[06:46] <mebaran151> similr idea right
[06:46] <wastrel> anyone use galeon?
[06:46] <mebaran151> both very bit intensive
[06:46] <f4phantom2500> well im out i guess
[06:46] <Computer__Guru> i had a toshiba satellite a10 2.2ghz pentium-m, 384mb ram, killer ac3, built in mic, 15" panoramic screen
[06:46] <mebaran151> bbc's?
[06:46] <f4phantom2500> thoreauputic:  thanks again dude
[06:46] <thoreauputic> wastrel: sometimes, yes
[06:46] <Computer__Guru> touchpad
[06:47] <thoreauputic> f4phantom2500: no worries :)
[06:47] <mebaran151> because I dont have much to hide, but a lot to encode
[06:47] <robotgeek> mebaran151: i tht they had some streaming stuff there, bbc...british brodcasting corp.
[06:47] <Computer__Guru> none of that aggrivating nubbin thing
[06:47] <f4phantom2500> thoreauputic:  saved me quite a bit of trouble
[06:47] <mebaran151> and the hardware encoder is supposed to be crazy
[06:47] <mebaran151> robotgeek, oh THAT bbc
[06:47] <jazzanova> i don't use gnome, i use ratpoison. how can i get the thing about battery status that notifies me ?
[06:47] <robotgeek> mebaran151: :)
[06:47] <wastrel> thoreauputic, the new toolbar - any way to make it smaller?
[06:47] <f4phantom2500> g'night all
[06:47] <robotgeek> jazzanova: try torsmo
[06:47] <wastrel> thoreauputic, like, remove the text under the buttons?  stuff like that
[06:47] <Computer__Guru> dell is pretty cheap...
[06:47] <thoreauputic> wastrel: I haven't tried, frankly
[06:47] <jazzanova> thanks robotgeek
[06:48] <mebaran151> I wonder if I could stream over ssh
[06:48] <mebaran151> to my friends everywhere
[06:48] <Computer__Guru> wal*mart has a C7 1GHz laptop with 40gb, 256, and lindows for $450
[06:48] <Computer__Guru> 14" screen
[06:48] <mebaran151> do you think 7 mbps is enough for video
[06:48] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, not a bad deal
[06:48] <mebaran151> the C7 is an awesome chip
[06:48] <Computer__Guru> no, not at _all_ wal*mart.com
[06:48] <Computer__Guru> err -*
[06:48] <mebaran151> its encryuption abilities are massive
[06:48] <mebaran151> reading the specs
[06:49] <tech> what would you say would be the main differences beetween ubuntu and debian?
[06:49] <mebaran151> it beat a P4 3.2 by like 10 times
[06:49] <wastrel> stuipd toolbar takes like an inch of screen space
[06:49] <Computer__Guru> not to mention the mobo's built on video decoder
[06:49] <mebaran151> and if it can encrypt I can make it run the encoding
[06:49] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, it has a built in decoder?
[06:49] <Computer__Guru> uh huh
[06:49] <mebaran151> the new Nvidias do something like that
[06:49] <wastrel> galeon used to be so good :[
[06:49] <mebaran151> the 660 has a programmable interrupt
[06:50] <Madpilot> evening, all
[06:50] <robotgeek> hi
[06:50] <Computer__Guru> every nano-itx board ive ever seen with a via processor has had tv-out, spd/if out, and a built in multi-format video decoder
[06:50] <mebaran151> s/660/6600
[06:50] <thoreauputic> wastrel: yes, it's been downhill ever since 1.3 - I use FF mostly now
[06:50] <jazzanova> robotgeek: torsmo is in universe, i take it ?
[06:50] <mebaran151> does the decoder do mpeg4
[06:50] <robotgeek> jazzanova: i guess so
[06:51] <Computer__Guru> i like the idea of a processor that you can run without a fan at full speed.. imagine how far you could overclock that chip if you put a cooling system on it :D
[06:51] <wastrel> thoreauputic, yeah FF same .... :/
[06:51] <Computer__Guru> i dunno
[06:51] <robotgeek> !info torsmo
[06:51] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, probably not that much
[06:51] <ubotu> torsmo: (System monitor that sits in the corner of your desktop), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.17-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[06:51] <Computer__Guru> ya never know
[06:51] <mebaran151> Eden's are nice for so many things though
[06:51] <mebaran151> blade servers
[06:51] <mebaran151> (though the Pentium M is great too)
[06:51] <mebaran151> but the Eden even more so
[06:51] <mebaran151> and thin clients come to mind
[06:51] <puff> Hm, I just installed hoary hedgehog, should I update it?
[06:51] <Computer__Guru> the c7 pulls like 20w @ 2ghz
[06:51] <puff> Er, upgrade via apt.
[06:51] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, crazy
[06:52] <wastrel> puff yes
[06:52] <robotgeek> puff: yeah
[06:52] <mebaran151> but what is it's IPC
[06:52] <Computer__Guru> yeah
[06:52] <jazzanova> i have lots of .deb packages that were shipped with the ubuntu install. does apt see them on my system ?
[06:52] <thoreauputic> wastrel: I think there's a need for a *genuinely* lightweight nrowser that will run on old hardware - dillo is too primitive and Firefox is now too slow :/
[06:52] <Computer__Guru> i dunno
[06:52] <thoreauputic> *browser
[06:52] <mebaran151> thoreauputic, dillo works
[06:52] <robotgeek> lynx, elinks :)
[06:52] <mebaran151> sorry it is too primitive
[06:52] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: I know
[06:52] <mebaran151> but that light has to be primitive
[06:52] <Computer__Guru> i just think that's pretty cool... a 2ghz processor that produces so little heat it needs no cooling whatsoever
[06:52] <puff> is there a package that will set up a cron job to fetch critical security updates nightly?
[06:53] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, but I use my CPU to heat my house ....
[06:53] <Randall64> When is breezy due for release?  Is it fairly stable?
[06:53] <robotgeek> puff: you can set it up in  your crontab file
[06:53] <Computer__Guru> hahaha
[06:53] <puff> or, for that matter, any other good security-related packages.  I use the tiger package on my debian box.
[06:53] <wastrel> thoreauputic, definitely agree.  tho i now have decent hardware thank goodness
[06:53] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: I use it - but it lacks https and various other things, and renders in a rather odd manner on many pages
[06:53] <puff> robotgeek: I'm wary of cronning general upgrades :-).
[06:53] <mebaran151> yeah, but https needs openSSL doesnt it?
[06:53] <mebaran151> and openssl is pretty huge
[06:53] <Mr_Joe> have any body have prob with xmms
[06:53] <robotgeek> puff: why?
[06:54] <Randall64> Mr_Joe: I have a problem with its horrible interface.
[06:54] <Mr_Joe> try apt-get install xmms
[06:54] <robotgeek> puff: btw, tiger is in the repos!
[06:54] <robotgeek> !info tiger
[06:54] <ubotu> tiger: (Report system security vulnerabilities), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1:3.2.1-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 507 kB, Installed size: 2504 kB
[06:54] <puff> Er, dist-upgrades.
[06:54] <Randall64> Anyone, breezy release?
[06:54] <Mr_Joe> intallok with ubuntu but frezz when play mp3
[06:54] <mebaran151> Randall64, like Oct
[06:54] <Madpilot> October
[06:54] <puff> robotgeek: because I've seen them fail and break a system to often.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> wastrel: something like kameleon would be good - unfortunately it's windows-only AFAIK
[06:54] <puff> i guess I don't have too much to lose here, considerig.
[06:55] <Mr_Joe> install ok with ubuntu but frezz when play mp3 any body with same prob or have solution
[06:55] <Randall64> mebaran: I guess I'll have to risk it, since I need a fixed glibc.
[06:55] <robotgeek> puff: hmm...i'm gonna keep it till it breaks! :) btw, did u check out "tiger" in the universe repository?
[06:55] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=3504708
[06:55] <jazzanova> how do i see what cyrrilic true type fonts i have on the system ?
[06:55] <puff> Hm, some warning about "You are about to install software that CAN'T BE AUTHENTICATED"
[06:56] <Computer__Guru> i was off on ram and hd
[06:56] <Computer__Guru> but damn
[06:56] <robotgeek> yeah, what's that all abt?
[06:56] <Computer__Guru> thats a deal
[06:56] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, I would have put on it Suse
[06:56] <mebaran151> it is
[06:56] <Computer__Guru> id use ubuntu
[06:56] <puff> robotgeek: I'll probably be installing tiger, is bastille in there too?
[06:56] <mebaran151> I can you can pick up some good RAM for cheap
[06:56] <robotgeek> !info bastille
[06:56] <ubotu> bastille: (Security hardening tool), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1:2.1.1-11 (hoary), Packaged size: 357 kB, Installed size: 1504 kB
[06:56] <mebaran151> 5 hour battery life is NICE
[06:56] <puff> i'm not sure it makes as much sense to install samhain on a personal/desktop box.
[06:56] <deprave> hehe
[06:56] <robotgeek> puff: i am learning again! all new stuff!
[06:56] <wastrel> ooookies time to go to bed...
[06:57] <deprave> i finaly got ubuntu to dial on aol! =P
[06:57] <hybrid_goth> deprave: WOW CONGRATS
[06:57] <olaf> how deprave?
[06:57] <mebaran151> deprave, now you need it to stop :p
[06:57] <Computer__Guru> they pimped that ooo ms-office support feature int hat summary, heh
[06:57] <deprave> lol
[06:57] <deprave> no i need broadband
[06:57] <puff> Any advice on this can't-be-authenticated warning?
[06:57] <Randall64> deprave: You mean when someone says "me too," it dials?
[06:57] <hybrid_goth> deprave: but it aint running that IE based POS browser is it?
[06:57] <olaf> =fellow aoler, please inform me deprave
[06:57] <deprave> olaf: penggy
[06:57] <olaf> :)
[06:57] <deprave> no it's not
[06:57] <hybrid_goth> ok
[06:57] <deprave> no more annoying "You've got mail" crap
[06:57] <olaf> wanna give me a step-by-step on how you got it done?
[06:58] <robotgeek> puff: my guess is you need to get gpg keys from somewhere! i am not sure though
[06:58] <Randall64> Need to get 502MB of archives.
[06:58] <Computer__Guru> LOL
[06:58] <deprave> and contrary to belief, this dialup is faster than the other 2 dialups i've used in the past 2 years, but i guess some of that may be due to linux operating
[06:58] <Computer__Guru> what're you installing??
[06:58] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, arg
[06:58] <Randall64> Maybe I'll just build a few packages.
[06:58] <thoreauputic> puff: either it's a 3rd party repo, or you haven't done apt-get update in the last day or so, or there's a gpg problem
[06:58] <mebaran151> he's installing breezy
[06:58] <Computer__Guru> oh
[06:58] <olaf> no step-by-step deprave?
[06:59] <Computer__Guru> haha, that's probably going to suck
[06:59] <thoreauputic> puff: generally you can ignore those warnings
[06:59] <Computer__Guru> i heard breazy wasnt done
[06:59] <mebaran151> Computer__Guru, how do you instruct the Eden to use the decoder
[06:59] <mebaran151> does mplayer just do it
[06:59] <puff> thoreauputic: Ah, okay... hm... would multiverse cause that?
[06:59] <Randall64> I need a glibc that's been fixed for amd64.
[06:59] <mebaran151> Randall64, mine is ok
[06:59] <mebaran151> Randall64, how can you apt-get without glibc?
[07:00] <Randall64> mebaran151: Are you running mythtv?
[07:00] <mebaran151> Randall64, nope
[07:00] <thoreauputic> puff: not usually - but it's possible: i sometimes see itif I haven't updated recently
[07:00] <mebaran151> GeexBox
[07:00] <Computer__Guru> mebaran151:  i dont know.. maybe there's a kernel buffer or something.. or maybe a special program designed to look for a hardware decoder before a software one
[07:00] <mebaran151> at the moment
[07:00] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:00] <Computer__Guru> geex is pimp
[07:00] <Computer__Guru> we use it on our tv-pc
[07:00] <mebaran151> all I got to figure out though is how to make it use the awesome decoder
[07:00] <mebaran151> I got to find a Linux DTS-ES decoder
[07:00] <Computer__Guru> mplayer very well may have a flag for it
[07:00] <thoreauputic> puff: I assume if the repo has changed , the gpg sig changes too
[07:00] <mebaran151> I lack any idea how to write it
[07:01] <mebaran151> I need to learn to write SSE2 code
[07:01] <crimsun> you should be shielded from that
[07:01] <thoreauputic> puff: or the md5 sum or both - dunno
[07:02] <apolo> hi
[07:02] <thechitowncubss> Is it normal for a slow computer to only do one task at a time.
[07:02] <thechitowncubss> ?
[07:03] <thechitowncubss> 500mhz 256mb ram and it can't handle more than one task at once
[07:03] <Computer__Guru> wow
[07:03] <thechitowncubss> i launched open office like 6 minutes ago and its just now starting up
[07:03] <jasmuz> thechitowncubss: uh?....it should be able to handle more
[07:03] <Computer__Guru> try a window manager that takes less system resources
[07:03] <thechitowncubss> its installing updates, thats it
[07:03] <Computer__Guru> that can take a while
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> i know
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> but should be able to do more than one thing while doing it
[07:04] <Computer__Guru> yeah
[07:04] <Madpilot> thechitowncubss: OO is well-known to be bulky - not that MSOffice is any better
[07:04] <Computer__Guru> what window manager are you in? gnome?
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> I understand that
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> ya, gnome
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> a fresh install
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> how can i see if my hard drive is using dma/
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> ?
[07:04] <thechitowncubss> and if its safe to turn it on
[07:04] <Computer__Guru> hdparm -d /dev/hda
[07:04] <jasmuz> thechitowncubss: you could use XFCE to go nicer on your ram
[07:05] <jasmuz> thechitowncubss: yes its safe
[07:05] <thechitowncubss> i know of the alternatives
[07:05] <mebaran151> crimsun, why
[07:05] <thechitowncubss> jasmuz: no not all hard drives work nicely with linux dma
[07:05] <Computer__Guru> and hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda if it isnt
[07:05] <jasmuz> thechitowncubss: mine do
[07:05] <crimsun> mebaran151: because you shouldn't be spending your time worrying about it. The design matters much more.
[07:05] <thechitowncubss> congrats
[07:05] <Computer__Guru> yeah, particularily 2.5" drives
[07:06] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubss: most will be fine - even my ancient 2.2 gig drive on a p200 accepts dma
[07:06] <thechitowncubss> :)
[07:06] <thechitowncubss> quiet channel tonight
[07:07] <mebaran151> crimsun, yep I guess
[07:07] <Madpilot> 2.2Gb? wow, that isn't even one DVDs worth o' data... ;)
[07:07] <mebaran151> just might be neat to know
[07:07] <thoreauputic> the--dud: not really - everyone got quiet when they saw you arrive ;-)
[07:07] <crimsun> mebaran151: oh it's certainly interesting as a knowledge base, but it's not something over which I'd really lose sleep.
[07:07] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:07] <Madpilot> a friend has a 600Mb HDD, still in daily use...
[07:07] <jasmuz> Madpilot: you can run a fully fledge linux install from 2 gigs
[07:07] <Madpilot> jasmuz: you could even run stock Ubuntu, just barely - I think this is a 1.8Gb install...
[07:08] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubss: tab completion error above ^^^ :)
[07:08] <mebaran151> crimsun, not planning too
[07:08] <jasmuz> Madpilot: yes its 1.3-1.6 gigs
[07:08] <mebaran151> I also need to find some sort of display that is Blinkenlights compatible
[07:09] <Madpilot> Blinken-what?
[07:09] <robotgeek> can't wait for my external usb enclosure to come in
[07:10] <robotgeek> then, i can have a 55$ external hard drive! 80 gigs!
[07:10] <mebaran151> Madpilot, http://www.blinkenlights.de/arcade/
[07:10] <deprave> wow this is the first time i noticed bitchx had a url catcher
[07:10] <deprave> lol
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/blinkenlights.html  << blinkenlights :D
[07:11] <robotgeek> BEOS legacy, right?
[07:13] <astunmarx_> ahoi, sorry i'm a green horn in computing. i use ubuntu hoary hedgehoag. i want to use the mutt program. I can't start it with the command line & i can't read any explanations on the manual, which is installed. is there anybody who can receiving me & give a right answer, how i can handle this problem?
[07:13] <Madpilot> oh, that looks like fun. thanks for the links!
[07:13] <robotgeek> astunmarx_: what do u mean, can't start it in command line?
[07:14] <Madpilot> there are crazed modders who still do blinkenlights things to their boxes
[07:14] <thoreauputic> astunmarx_: if you are a greenhorn, mutt isn't a very good choice of email client :)
[07:14] <Madpilot> "Knight Rider" lights connected to the HDD Status signal, for ex.
[07:15] <thoreauputic> astunmarx_: any particular reason why you want / need to use mutt?
[07:15] <robotgeek> maybe in love with cli??
[07:16] <dabaR> hi.
[07:16] <astunmarx_> to robot geek (?): i write on command line "mutt", meanwhile synaptic shows me mutt is installed, but mutt doesn't start with this run
[07:16] <Madpilot> hi
[07:16] <robotgeek> hi
[07:16] <cafuego> thoreauputic:  only cli access?
[07:16] <thoreauputic> cafuego: that's why I was asking, of course :)
[07:16] <cs378> u guys think i should install antivirus?
[07:16] <cafuego> deprave: yeah, sometimes it auto-fetches. Shall I paste a link to a DVD iso? ;-)
[07:17] <robotgeek> astunmarx_: do u have to to ctrl +c it?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> astunmarx_: mutt starts in the terminal
[07:18] <Randall64> CPU Temp:  +65.9?C  (low  =  +0.0?C, high = +70.0?C)
[07:18] <dabaR> cs378: not necessarily. If you know where to install from, you are safe, pretty much. Stay away from scripts, and executables on IRC.
[07:19] <Madpilot> Randall64: those temps seem pretty high. install another fan?
[07:19] <astunmarx_> i try it although in the terminal. and for the spelling of robotgeek, I've had to request "beg pardon"!?
[07:20] <dabaR> astunmarx_: /msg ubotu nicktab
[07:20] <cafuego> Have those sensors been calibrated? Do they in fact shows the correct temperature?
[07:20] <IIIEars> inittab?
[07:20] <Randall64> Madpilot: I'm just hoping the sensor is inaccurate.  It should be pretty cool with this ugly flower-shaped heatsink.
[07:20] <dabaR> cs378: debian/ubuntu/apt install only from repositories you tell it. You should use Ubuntu official repositories. Even if someone hijacks, and pretends they are the repository computers, your apt will give you an error, since the intruder wont be able to authenticate. They have figured this stuff out ok in Linux.
[07:21] <thoreauputic> astunmarx_: when you type "mutt" , do you see blue strips top and bottom with words in them?
[07:21] <dabaR> IIIEars: try.
[07:21] <DanJohn> hi
[07:21] <dabaR> yo
[07:21] <Madpilot> Randall64: my machine (AMD K7) shows the same temps with lm-sensors/xsensors as it did in XP with Asus's own sensor apps...
[07:21] <DanJohn> can somebody help me to get my realplayer working in ubuntu
[07:21] <DanJohn> plz help me
[07:21] <Madpilot> but if you've got one of the big Zalman heatsinks properly installed, you should be OK?
[07:21] <Randall64> Mad: These temp sensors seem to be the least (if you can believe it) standard thing on peecees.
[07:21] <DanJohn> i cant play music on www.raaga.com/hindi
[07:22] <Madpilot> !mp3
[07:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[07:22] <cafuego> Madpilot: Mine seem fine with the stock OEM fan
[07:22] <Meep> Anyone got any good pointers to commercial VPN solutions that support Ubuntu systems as clients well?
[07:22] <DanJohn> yes i knoiw vpn
[07:22] <DanJohn> goto ubuntu archive
[07:22] <DanJohn> and u can follow CISCO VPN client
[07:22] <DanJohn> thread
[07:22] <DanJohn> its good
[07:22] <DanJohn> u got to have the right patch
[07:23] <DanJohn> Meep
[07:23] <DanJohn> u there
[07:23] <Meep> Yeah.
[07:23] <DanJohn> ok
[07:23] <DanJohn> i had the same prob
[07:23] <Meep> CISCO VPN?
[07:23] <DanJohn> i found out
[07:23] <DanJohn> and i am now using VPN
[07:23] <DanJohn> to connect to my workplace
[07:23] <Meep> Is the client ipsec or a custom client?
[07:23] <DanJohn> yup
[07:23] <Yagle> There seems to be packages missing from apt-get, do i need to add other sources?
[07:23] <DanJohn> ipsec
[07:23] <Meep> FreeS/WAN as the client?
[07:23] <astunmarx_> at first to dabaR: is /msg ubotu nicktab a run, & to thoerauputic i doesnt see anything without my commom gnome desktop
[07:24] <Madpilot> !repos
[07:24] <DanJohn> goto ubuntuforums.org
[07:24] <DanJohn> and check therte
[07:24] <DanJohn> u will see that thread and one guy has nicely written a lot about it
[07:24] <dabaR> Yagle: do you know what you are installing? If so, do: /msg ubotu info packageName, and he will tell you what repository your package is in.
[07:24] <DanJohn> check it
[07:24] <deprave> is it a difficult task to get identd running on ubuntu for irc purposes?
[07:24] <IIIEars> ubotu repositories is also repos
[07:24] <crimsun> deprave: no
[07:24] <Yagle> ok
[07:24] <Meep> Any wpa_suplicate gurus here?
[07:24] <Madpilot> IIIEars: ubotu used to know "repos"...
[07:24] <crimsun> deprave: it can be as simple as ,,sudo aptitude install oidentd''
[07:25] <deprave> crimsun: have a quick link or insight on how to do it
[07:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:25] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[07:25] <deprave> with the commas?
[07:25] <dabaR> astunmarx_: type in /msg ubotu nicktab instead of your message to the channel.
[07:25] <Yagle> ubotu, zomg you not a bot :-\
[07:25] <ubotu> Yagle: I don't know
[07:25] <Meep> DanJohn: Is there any suggest search criteria?  CISCO VPN returned *LOTS*
[07:25] <dabaR> deprave: no
[07:26] <Yagle> bah
[07:26] <dabaR> he is a bot
[07:26] <cafuego> Meep: You'd epect ike/ipsec to be fairly standard
[07:26] <efigyidol> how do I find the ip address of an ssh connected user?
[07:26] <IIIEars> just end pasted the word repos to whatever info the phrase repositories was :x - i'll fix it.
[07:26] <deprave> ok it installed, will it run automaticly after i reboot?
[07:27] <cafuego> efigyidol: 'w'
[07:27] <Gourami> Hi all, what do I need to change to get my Ubuntu machine to be visible on our windows domain ?
[07:27] <IIIEars> !repositories
[07:27] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto, or repos
[07:27] <Gourami> everything is workin
[07:27] <cafuego> efigyidol: See also /var/log/syslog and 'last'
[07:27] <efigyidol> cafuego, changed from debian to ubuntu?
[07:27] <efigyidol> cafuego: thanks.
[07:28] <deprave> how do i run identd or will it run on boot now?
[07:28] <Meep> Assuming an IPSEC VPN server, what is the best client?
[07:28] <IIIEars> ubotu forget repositories
[07:28] <dabaR> deprave: I dont think you need to reboot.
[07:28] <dabaR> I think it is running now.
[07:28] <Madpilot> it seems really laggy here tonight...
[07:28] <cafuego> efigyidol: Only on the desktop.
[07:28] <cafuego> (so yes, ubotu runs on sarge)
[07:28] <dabaR> not sure how to find out, anyone know how to find out if a server is running, like the oidentd?
[07:28] <IIIEars> ubotu repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto,
[07:29] <deprave> dabaR: well, i seem to still be akilled from another network for it
[07:30] <crimsun> deprave: make sure your home router/cable modem is forwarding tcp/113
[07:30] <Computer__Guru> bbl
[07:30] <deprave> i'm on dialup
[07:30] <IIIEars> ubotu are you overworked? - is your database just too large to search quickly? a brother bot machine to share the load?
[07:30] <zerboxx> Umm, when in thunderbird I can click the scroll wheel, and a little circle pops up (this is similar to M$), why is it only with thunderbird though?
[07:30] <cafuego> Ignore the bot for a moment, I'll check
[07:31] <dabaR> zerboxx: cause that program has that feature?
[07:31] <dabaR> aww...
[07:32] <zerboxx> dabaR: Though in M$ it appears to be a standard feature, I was wondering if it's possible to make it standard in ubuntu aswell, thats all
[07:32] <dabaR> I gotta go to sleep early 2day
[07:32] <Madpilot> who actually runs ubotu? is he an official Ubuntu project?
[07:32] <cafuego> ubotu: you lagging?
[07:32] <ubotu> no
[07:32] <dabaR> give us more info about the feature, I am not sure at all what you mean?
[07:32] <hybrid_goth> lol
[07:32] <cafuego> !goo'boy
[07:32] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[07:32] <dabaR> bah
[07:32] <cafuego> Meep: I run it
[07:32] <zerboxx> dabaR: Do you have thunderbird?
[07:32] <cafuego> Madpilot: I run it
[07:32] <dabaR> zerboxx: nope.
[07:33] <dabaR> is it in repos? I think it is, Ill check in a sec.
[07:33] <cafuego> Madpilot: he's just a slightly modified blootbot (so he uses the Ubuntu and not debian archives)
[07:33] <zerboxx> dabaR: yup, should be :)
[07:33] <Seveas> Madpilot, it's not an 'official project' but he's simply the #ubuntu bot :)
[07:33] <IIIEars> cafuego encompassed a lot of difficult effort in three little words. - REALLY nice bot cafuego.
[07:33] <Madpilot> cafuego: OK, cool.
[07:34] <zerboxx> Is there a way to change what goes on when booting up ubuntu? I've seen somethings that I may like to remove??
[07:34] <cafuego> zerboxx: install and run 'rcconf'
[07:34] <zerboxx> cafuego: ok, thanks :)
[07:35] <Seveas> zerboxx, or look at bum (see the 3rd party section on the forums)
[07:36] <dabaR> zerboxx: what again, right click anywhere in the thuinderbird app or what?
[07:36] <zerboxx> dabaR: middle click (w the wheel)
[07:37] <dabaR> anywhere in the app?
[07:37] <ScislaC> is it possible to change the "prefix" for where dpkg will install a deb?
[07:37] <zerboxx> dabaR: seems to only work in an email, not sure if it has a "welcome" email or not though
[07:37] <zerboxx> dabaR: If you'd like I could take a screenshot and put it up so you can see what i mean (if that would be easier)
[07:38] <anacron> can i use cedega in 64bit ubuntu?
[07:38] <dabaR> ok, go.
[07:38] <HrdwrBoB> anacron: simple answer: no.
[07:39] <goldfish> hehe
[07:39] <dabaR> simple for him or you?
[07:39] <goldfish> difficult answer would be chroot it to a 32-bit enviornment?
[07:39] <cafuego> anacron: correct answer: yes. Read up on installing a 32bit chroot and using cedega in that.
[07:39] <nicedreams> does ubuntu have a prefetch for faster loading?
[07:39] <deprave> can you install different themes for ubuntu gnome?
[07:40] <deprave> not that i dislike this brown all too much, just for future reference
[07:40] <dabaR> off coourse. go to art.gnome.org and check out the themes and faqs.
[07:40] <Madpilot> !themes
[07:40] <deprave> nice thanks
[07:40] <ubotu> I guess themes is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[07:40] <Madpilot> deprave: lots of resources - see ubotu's URLs
[07:40] <Madpilot> i like gnome-look.org myself
[07:41] <nicedreams> i'm loving this kde 3.4
[07:41] <anacron> cafuego: can i install 64bit ubuntu first and then do that chroot thing?
[07:41] <nicedreams> they really made some improvments
[07:41] <IIIEars> deprave gnome is almost infinitely configurable - you saw themes in the preferences menu? - there are additional themes available at gnomlook.org
[07:41] <goldfish> nicedreams: it rocks.
[07:42] <cafuego> anacron: yep
[07:42] <anacron> cafuego: great, so i don't have to cancel my installation at this point :)
[07:42] <cafuego> anacron: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2740.html
[07:42] <Poromies> hi all.. i have a short question: Im using kernel 2.6.12-3 from breezy repos (because of my chipset not working with older ones..) and im trying to install ATI drivers.. the thing is, that there is on "restricted-modules" package for this baby that it needed by the "xorg-fglrx-driver" so installing that doesn't work .. but should it work after i install "fglrx-kernel-source" (ATI binary kernel module source)?
[07:43] <Seveas> Poromies, no
[07:43] <cafuego> anacron: just use 'hoary' where those docs refer to Sid.
[07:43] <zerboxx> dabaR: Currently can't take a screenshot, not sure why, but I'll figure it out :)
[07:43] <Poromies> sry for the typos, its like 7am :)
[07:43] <Seveas> Poromies, you would need to wait for restricted modules, or better do NOT use 2.6.12 on hoary (it ttends to break a few more things than that)
[07:43] <Poromies> havent seen it breaking anything yet
[07:45] <deprave> any suggestions on a mp3 player?
[07:45] <zerboxx> deprave: I use beep-media-player myself
[07:46] <goldfish> mp3blaster for cli
[07:46] <goldfish> or beep
[07:46] <dabaR> zerboxx: got it.
[07:46] <zerboxx> dabaR: perfect!  So you see that thing which pops up?
[07:47] <dabaR> zerboxx: app specific, can not be set in a wm, is what I would expect.
[07:47] <dabaR> I dont know that much tho.
[07:47] <zerboxx> dabaR: I figured it was app specific, though I was hoping it may not be :)
[07:47] <zerboxx> dabaR: Thanks for checking though!
[07:48] <dabaR> wait a sec, tho.
[07:48] <dabaR> ta, sure, I was curious myself...
[07:48] <dabaR> ta-ya
[07:48] <cafuego> argh, 189MB of packages for this upgrade :-P
[07:49] <Adross> i have a 40 gig usb hdd. How do i mount it?
[07:49] <dabaR> Adross: hm...using gnome?
[07:49] <kozlyk> anyone used webmin?
[07:50] <highvoltage> kozlyk: yes, lots of people went through that phase
[07:50] <Adross> dabaR: your method intrigues me, eloborate
[07:50] <deprave> lol
[07:50] <anacron> my usb stuff has worked without any mounting with just pluging them in
[07:50] <kozlyk> can someone help me with the finishing touches to my samba file server?
[07:51] <dabaR> Adross: if you are using gnome, there is a thing that runs with gnome called gnome-volume-manager, and it automounts(or is set to taht by default, anyhow) all shizzes that you connect.
[07:51] <zerboxx> Adross: I temporarily had a usb hdd, and it worked just from plugging it in and turning it on
[07:51] <hybrid_goth> my psp works the same way
[07:52] <dabaR> Adross: if you are not using gnome, well, you could run the volume-manager in a terminal, it should work.
[07:52] <Adross> dabaR: no such luck here
[07:52] <Adross> dabaR: using gnome, but it did not automount
[07:52] <Adross> though that is what usually happens
[07:52] <goldfish> Adross: what filesystem is on it?
[07:52] <goldfish> fat32 ?
[07:52] <Adross> ntfs i think
[07:53] <dabaR> Alternatively, you can look for, for example, sudo mount /dev/sda1(which is the device my camera ends up on when I connect it) /media/usbdisk/
[07:53] <Adross> there are a few partitions
[07:53] <goldfish> Adross: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[07:53] <efigyidol> kozlyk: what do you want help with?
[07:53] <Adross> i check /dev for an sda1 entry
[07:53] <Adross> not there
[07:53] <dabaR> brb
[07:53] <goldfish> Adross: tail dmesg, plug it out, plug it back in.
[07:53] <kozlyk> i have setup samba/swat and also webmin on a hoary tower
[07:53] <hybrid_goth> what would happen if i resized the default partition on my usb drive
[07:53] <goldfish> see where dmesg says it is
[07:54] <Adross> kk, i'll try that
[07:54] <Adross> not here right now
[07:54] <kozlyk> on my xp laptop i can see the ubuntu tower, but am still unable to access it
[07:54] <Adross> meh, better go, get some of these assignments done
[07:54] <Adross> later
[07:54] <anacron> hybrid_goth: id say you lose all your data, and get rezised partition :)
[07:54] <kozlyk> i have adjusted everything in webmin that i can think of
[07:54] <goldfish> depends what you use to resize it hybrid_goth
[07:54] <kozlyk> just out of ideas and forums to troll
[07:55] <goldfish> i resized my partitions with partition magic and lost no data.
[07:55] <efigyidol> kozlyk: have you added the xp user to /etc/smbpasswd?
[07:55] <dabaR> ok, well, nothing special from me about that scrolling circle.
[07:55] <kozlyk> i'll give a check
[07:55] <efigyidol> kozlyk: i've never used the webmin front end (webmin is not very safe to use (i heard))
[07:56] <dabaR> I am going to bed, good night all.
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> but would it increase size
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> what would multiple partitions do?
[07:56] <hybrid_goth> could i mount two sd* from one thumb drive
[07:57] <deprave> lol aol on linux
[07:57] <deprave> im giggling
[07:57] <IIIEars> Samba - How is the workgroup changed?
[07:57] <efigyidol> kozlyk: have you looked  on the internet for howto guides? it's a good place to start. You probably just missed a few steps. you see you need to set-up a user in smbpasswd using the tools that come with samba.
[07:58] <efigyidol> kozlyk: it's probably easier if your samba user is the same as the user on windows xp
[07:58] <psychonate> Is there a tool I can use to merge two subrip-style subtitles together, so that the timestamps on the latter subtitle file will be correct after the merge?
[07:58] <psychonate> subrip=.srt
[07:59] <humbraro> anybody here using an ipod?
[07:59] <psychonate> I have an idea to do it without any special tools, but I would prefer an easy fix first.
[07:59] <dabaR> thse are quite common.
[07:59] <humbraro> i got gtkpod and followed the directions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto?highlight=%28ipod%29
[07:59] <humbraro> but for some reason it won't sync
[08:00] <humbraro> i can't write files to it
[08:00] <efigyidol> kozlyk: from memory the command to add a user to smbpasswd is: smbpasswd -a username
[08:01] <efigyidol> kozlyk: if your windows xp user was fred then you would just use: smbpasswd -a fred
[08:02] <IIIEars> I would like echo to change the workgroup. How is that done?
[08:02] <kozlyk> this is the error i get:
[08:02] <kozlyk> Is there something i am missing.
[08:02] <kozlyk> sorry...
[08:03] <kozlyk> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user Graham.  Does this user exist in the unix password database?
[08:03] <efigyidol> IIIEars: in the conf file workgroup=myworkgroup
[08:04] <efigyidol> kozlyk: smbpasswd -a Graham
[08:04] <deprave> i'm sorry for my lack of attention, but does anyone have any suggestion for a good mp3 player (maybe something with a resemblance to winamp)
[08:05] <thunderbolt> deprave: xmms is my favorite
[08:05] <efigyidol> deprave: xmms or bmp
[08:05] <goldfish> beep-media-player
[08:05] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  and i get that error
[08:05] <deprave> cool thanks
[08:05] <goldfish> or xmms2 !!
[08:05] <deprave> is xmms on the base install cd?
[08:05] <efigyidol> kozlyk: you need to have a user called Graham on the system
[08:05] <goldfish> deprave: no
[08:05] <deprave> ok thanks, i'll go download it
[08:06] <goldfish> get beep-media-player
[08:06] <efigyidol> kozlyk: useradd graham
[08:06] <efigyidol> kozlyk: or useradd Graham
[08:06] <deprave> ok this is a machine with low resources too, i don't need gaudy stuff
[08:06] <goldfish> deprave: wells its basically xmms just newer.
[08:07] <deprave> oh ok
[08:07] <goldfish> deprave: if u want a console based program get mp3blaster.
[08:07] <kozlyk> ok done
[08:07] <goldfish> very low on resources :)
[08:07] <efigyidol> deprave: xmms and beep media player (bmp) are very similar, beep is a little better in some ways, I don't know if there is much difference in the amount of resources used.
[08:07] <kozlyk> however the laptop has an uppercase, however the ubuntu it is forced lowercase.  Is that a problem
[08:07] <efigyidol> both can be obtained through synaptic
[08:07] <rob^> efigyidol, bmp is a fork of xmms with the gtk2 toolkit
[08:08] <deprave> synaptic is sort of like the fbsd ports system?
[08:08] <efigyidol> rob^: ok
[08:08] <x\away> hey rob
[08:08] <x\away> i took some advice on the forums
[08:08] <goldfish> deprave: no
[08:08] <x\away> and downloaded the iso for the cd
[08:08] <efigyidol> kozlyk: i'm not sure, try it and find out =)
[08:08] <kozlyk> efigyidol: i have a user on ubuntu with the same name as the laptop with xp
[08:09] <x\away> someone said they ordered 10 cd's and out of those 10 1 worked
[08:09] <kozlyk> i still have that login problem
[08:09] <highvoltage> is it possible to use a Promise SX6000 RAID controller with Ubuntu? i (or ubuntu at least) can't find my disks.
[08:09] <efigyidol> kozlyk: smbpasswd -a
[08:09] <efigyidol> kozlyk: once you have added a system user, you then need to add the same user to samba
[08:10] <rob^> x\away, you shouldn't have any problems with the ISO, you can check the md5 if you think you have a dud download
[08:10] <rob^> x
[08:10] <rob^> x\away, yes, I have had duds sent to me also
[08:10] <aru> its the readers at the post office
[08:10] <liable> highvoltage: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[08:10] <deprave> i see neither beep or xmms in the synaptic package manager
[08:11] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  samba now has graham as a user
[08:11] <rob^> deprave, its beep-media-player
[08:11] <highvoltage> liable: i'll check that out, thanks
[08:11] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  at least that is what webmin says :)
[08:11] <efigyidol> deprave: synaptic is ubuntus user interface to dpkg, it allows you to install packages easily. there is an even easier to use interface under Applications-> System tools -> add/remove programs
[08:11] <deprave> regardless, it's not there
[08:11] <deprave> oh so it just manages the packages once they're on the box
[08:11] <rob^> ubuntu tell deprave about repositories
[08:11] <deprave> gotcha
[08:12] <jazzanova> how do i setup russian in ubuntu ?
[08:12] <rob^> ubotu tell deprave about repositories
[08:12] <deprave> ubotu: don't you dare
[08:12] <ubotu> deprave: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:12] <jazzanova> i don't have russian in the terminal
[08:12] <jazzanova> in xterm
[08:12] <hybrid_goth> !repos
[08:12] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:12] <efigyidol> lol
[08:12] <rob^> deprave, do what ubotu said, its in the universe repo
[08:12] <efigyidol> kozlyk, try now
[08:12] <deprave> will do
[08:12] <x\away> hmm
[08:12] <x\away> new day
[08:12] <deprave> thanks btw
[08:12] <x\away> new webdesign to work on
[08:12] <x\away> :/
[08:13] <rob^> ToRTuReD_X, I see you got ubuntu installed finally..
[08:13] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  nope.  when i double-click in xp, it sits for about 20 seconds, then says that it is not accessible
[08:13] <ToRTuReD_X> rob
[08:13] <ToRTuReD_X> not at all
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> got most the way through and copped another error
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> so i'm reinstalling tonight
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> oh and thank you
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> tried dual booting
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> killed my windows
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> ;_;
[08:14] <rob^> heh
[08:14] <olaf> nice
[08:14] <rob^> nice one
[08:14] <ToRTuReD_X> had to reformat
[08:14] <efigyidol> kozlyk: no error messages?
[08:15] <kozlyk> on xp side yeah, it can't get in
[08:15] <humbraro> anybody here using an ipod? I can't write files to mine for some reason
[08:15] <ToRTuReD_X> [16:12:19]   ubotu  I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:15] <anacron> if i wan't to use cedega, what kind of partition i have to make for games?
[08:15] <efigyidol> kozlyk: you might need to tail the smb log and see if anything is happening
[08:15] <ToRTuReD_X> also a guide on the ubuntuguide.org site for that
[08:15] <rob^> ToRTuReD_X, dont recommend ubuntuguide
[08:15] <anacron> or is default linux just fine?
[08:15] <kozlyk> the network path was not found
[08:15] <ToRTuReD_X> i wasn't
[08:15] <deprave> thanks for that link, it was most helpful
[08:15] <kozlyk> tail?
[08:15] <ToRTuReD_X> was saying there's something about that there
[08:15] <efigyidol> kozlyk: I don't know if samba has a log file by default, so it mought be in the /var/log/syslog
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> i can't reccomend nothin rob
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> don't know the first thing about ubuntu yet
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> ;p
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> atleast it's not like other linux's
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> expecting you to do a whoel heap of commands just to turn it into a GUIU linux
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[08:16] <jazzanova> ok, i figured out that i should be using uxterm
[08:16] <ToRTuReD_X> -U
[08:17] <psychonate> Yays, I succesfully merged my two subrip-subtitles together with correct timestamps :)
[08:17] <jazzanova> but what do I do with sshed connections ? that show not in unicode ?
[08:17] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  Jul 27 23:16:25 localhost -- MARK --
[08:17] <efigyidol> lol
[08:17] <efigyidol> kozlyk: this will help you: http://us5.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch12.html
[08:17] <shoshe> hello  Ubuntities
[08:17] <psychonate> If I get bored, I might be able to write a script for it, but I doubt it :(
[08:18] <Madpilot> really, really odd question: is there a ROT13 "utility" hiding in Ubuntu somewhere? ;)
[08:18] <efigyidol> lo shoshe
[08:18] <drew> does installing apache http server give you nearly everything you need to host a website from your computer?
[08:18] <jazzanova> i am having trouble getting skype to work
[08:18] <Madpilot> !lamp
[08:18] <ubotu> it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LAMPForHoary
[08:18] <deprave> ever since i started this repository package update for synaptec my machine won't resolve hosts =/
[08:18] <humbraro> Madpilot: from memory i think its in bsd-games
[08:18] <jazzanova> it says error writing to device.
 hey how do i check what is my kernel version ...im trying to install the damn nvidia driver and need the version no for it !
[08:19] <Madpilot> drew: see ubotu's post
[08:19] <Madpilot> humbraro: I'll have a look. thanks. i know I can find ROT13 'translators' online too...
[08:19] <thoreauputic> shoshe: uname -r
[08:19] <deprave> drew: yes
[08:19] <efigyidol> shoshe uname -r
[08:19] <drew> deprave, do I still need to buy a domain?  or what?
[08:20] <IIIEars> Hi throeuputic :)
[08:20] <efigyidol> kozlyk: the samba log file is smbd.log, it should be located in /var/log/
[08:20] <thoreauputic> drew: if your ISP allows severs, no
 oo lala ... that worked !! speaking of nvidia ... do u have a nvidia vgs ?
[08:20] <drew> thoreauputic, how do I know if they allow servers?
[08:20] <efigyidol> shoshe: not on my laptop, but I have one on my desktop and have it running on debian
[08:21] <thoreauputic> drew: if you have dynamic IP you will need something like dyndns.org to point at your website
[08:21] <thoreauputic> drew: call them and ask??
[08:21] <efigyidol> shoshe: my desktop is currently in six or seven different peices.
[08:21] <humbraro> !ipod
[08:21] <ubotu> somebody said ipod was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto
 and was it easy to install the driver ? cause i got me an old TNT2 card and the driver installation is killing me !
[08:21] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - How can Ubuntu join my windows workgroup DEBIAN_FANS ?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I know nothing about samba, sorry - i use pure NFS and have only linux machines
[08:22] <levander> Anybody in here has gotten udftools working?  I'm having trouble getting started with it.  Don't understand the README.Debian that came with it at all.
[08:22] <elad_> Holy crap, did I just connect without having to enter an actual IP address instead of a hostname?
[08:22] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - Okay. - Thanks :)
[08:22] <m0unds> Hi, everyone. I'm wondering if anyone's familiar with USB microphones?
[08:22] <efigyidol> shoshe: i'm not up with the nvidia play, but what I had to do was this: get the driver from nvidia.com for linux, compile it and install it as a module, then configure xorg.conf.
[08:23] <elad_> Nope, I probably didn't. Fuck.
[08:23] <efigyidol> shoshe: i am a newbie, (kinda) and I managed to find the documentation using google, and get it up and running. (though it took me a while)
[08:23] <IceDC571> m0unds: usb microphones on linux ... for me is a nightmare
[08:24] <thoreauputic> elad_: is your /etc/resolv.conf OK?
 same here .. me a newbie too .. thats why so many problem i guess ... lolz ..
[08:24] <elad_> thoreauputic, that depends. What should be in there?
[08:24] <m0unds> IceDC571: have you gotten one to work, or is it an ongoing sort of thing for you too?
[08:24] <DekaPink> Ah, there we go... My Ubuntu is just about back to the way it was before I broke it by trying to upgrade to Breezy. xD
[08:24] <thoreauputic> elad_: a couple of nameserver addresses
[08:24] <IceDC571> m0unds: i got really frustrated and ripped it out... sorry, thats just my experience :)
[08:25] <efigyidol> shoshe: google is your friend. ubuntu tntn2 yeilds: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3488.html which should be helpful
[08:25] <elad_> Konqueror won't start... WTF?!
[08:25] <skalpel> is i t true you can use windows apps in linux?
[08:25] <DekaPink> Breezy's name amuses me... My dog's name is Breeze. xD
[08:25] <thoreauputic> elad_: IP s to be more precise, of course
[08:25] <skalpel> using like an emulator or something?
[08:25] <efigyidol> shoshe: thats tnt2 not tntn2
[08:25] <thoreauputic> skalpel: some, yes
[08:25] <kozlyk> efigyidol: thanx for that document.  i can ping the xp laptop to the ubuntu tower, but the ubuntu tower can't ping the xp laptop
[08:25] <DekaPink> skalpel, Yeah... wine or cedega or crossover ovice
[08:25] <elad_> All it has is "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[08:25] <skalpel> thoreaputic: how about soulseek?
[08:25] <DekaPink> office*
[08:25] <skalpel> wine sounds good
 yup .. spelling problem .. :D
[08:26] <m0unds> lol, i've got another mic..just didn't wanna have to mess around with it :)
[08:26] <DekaPink> skalpel, dosbox for dos stuff xD
[08:26] <thoreauputic> elad_: that's a local address - it should be a public address and there are normally 2 of them
[08:26] <olaf> wine works perfect
[08:26] <olaf> and allows DLLs to be used that aren't natively supported
[08:26] <thoreauputic> elad_: unless you use a dns server on your network
[08:26] <olaf> and i find that to be rather impressive
[08:27] <efigyidol> kozylk: xp may be firewalled off to icmp traffic, it's possible that you can not ping the machine, try turning off the firewall for a few seconds
[08:27] <elad_> So what do I do? I can call my ISP, but what would you have me ask them, and how should I use that information?
[08:27] <efigyidol> kozylk: and try again
 u play games on ur linux box ?
[08:28] <elad_> I definitely need a new HDD, this one must be messed up. Programs keep crashing. How do I fsck? When I tried, it told me my filesystem is mounted and that it's dangerous because of that.
[08:28] <efigyidol> shoshe: wolfenstein the new one is free, and its open gl. try that.
[08:28] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  fantastic
[08:28] <goldfish> kozlyk: if u have that windows sp2 firewall on you wont be able to ping it.
[08:28] <kozlyk> zonealarm
[08:29] <goldfish> ah right
[08:29] <elad_> thoreauputic?
[08:29] <kozlyk> i didn't put in sp2...messed too many things up
[08:29] <kozlyk> :)
 i was going to download the NEXUIS (fps), herd its good ..
[08:29] <Echelon-H> how can I make my ubuntu update wine from a repository?
[08:30] <pawitp> Is there a frontend for shapecfg
[08:30] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  i get the login screen now...just have to get the password to work
[08:30] <efigyidol> shoshe: never heard of it, though if you want some good fps, you can get (purchase) winex, its a fork of the original wine program, and it's designed to run your fav windows fps games.
[08:31] <deprave> LOL this rocks
[08:31] <skalpel> what does source tree mean?
[08:31] <elad_> thoreauputic, ?
[08:31] <DekaPink> Echelon-H, sudo apt-get upgrade wine?
[08:31] <efigyidol> kozlyk: this is where you need to: nice tail -f /var/log/smbd.log
[08:31] <deprave> i've searched far and wide for a good unix os for desktop operations, and finaly my journey has come to an end i think
[08:31] <deprave> =>
[08:32] <olaf> ubuntu is very very very nice
[08:32] <DekaPink> ubuntu really is.
[08:32] <m0unds> i love it
[08:32] <DekaPink> It's spoiled me against other distributions. xD
[08:32] <efigyidol> deprave: yep, so have I, I settled for debian for a few years, because I worked in an ISP. but ubuntu almost "just works"
[08:32] <olaf> i think it may have replaced slackware in my heart
[08:32] <m0unds> i just installed it today, i replaced fedora 3 on my notebook with ubuntu
[08:32] <m0unds> worked perfectly
[08:32] <m0unds> it's just been really nice
 moment of truth .. im going terminal to install the driver .. lets c what happens now :D
[08:32] <m0unds> everything has worked without extensive configuration
[08:32] <DekaPink> Ubuntu doesn't like my video card for 3D stuff... but that's okay. :3
[08:32] <efigyidol> shoshe, good luck
[08:32] <m0unds> lol
[08:33] <m0unds> that's what i'm working at right now
[08:33] <pawitp> Did anyone get i255 working on ubuntu? I saw a topic on ubuntuforum for i250, but I don't know will it work on i255
[08:33] <skalpel> what directory should i install nicotine to?
[08:33] <efigyidol> shoshe: you can simply ctrl+alt+backspace once you have it installed to recycle xwindows
[08:34] <kozlyk> efigyidol:  [2005/07/27 23:31:36, 0]  printing/pcap.c:pcap_cache_reload(149)
[08:34] <kozlyk>   Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!
[08:34] <drew> how do I mount a USB device?
[08:35] <Madpilot> just plug it in
[08:35] <hyphenated> drew: plug it in and wait for an icon to appear on your desktop
[08:35] <skalpel> can someoen tell me what directory i should install nicotine to?
[08:35] <drew> oh ok
[08:35] <drew> XD
[08:35] <cafuego> skalpel: /usr/local
[08:35] <rob^> /dev/mouth
[08:35] <hyphenated> skalpel: can't you use the version in apt?
[08:36] <cafuego> Or just don pirate music, problem solved.
[08:36] <deprave> bpm is nice
[08:36] <skalpel> who says i am pirating music?
[08:36] <goldfish> deprave: indeed
[08:36] <efigyidol> lol@rob^
[08:36] <deprave> is it possible to have the playlist visible?
[08:36] <deprave> bleh
[08:36] <deprave> i should not ask questions before attempting
[08:36] <deprave> hehe
[08:36] <goldfish> :)
[08:36] <efigyidol> kozlyk: are you sharing a printer?
[08:36] <cafuego> skalpel: Nobody. Did you assume I was talking to you? ;-)
[08:37] <kozlyk> nope
[08:37] <kozlyk> no printer on any system as of yet
[08:38] <efigyidol> kozlyk: do you have any directories shared on your ubuntu?
[08:38] <dtorg21> Having trouble with wireless, can anyone help out please do so...........
[08:38] <kozlyk> yup, my /home/kozlyk
[08:38] <skalpel> i am having serious memory problems with gnome, could someone give me an idea as to why?
[08:38] <skalpel> i have 256 mb ram it should not be a problem
[08:39] <cafuego> skalpel: do you have any swap sapce?
[08:39] <goldfish> it sucks
[08:39] <benplaut> skalpel: go to the task manager, select "Active Only", and see if gnome-panel is acting up
[08:39] <drew> I am having issues with Kopete not responding every time I try to sign in...it stops working and freezes, any help?
[08:40] <efigyidol> kozlyk: join #flood and paste the part of your smbd.conf that refers to your shared dir
[08:40] <kozlyk> the printcap file part?
[08:41] <efigyidol> kozlyk: nah the part of your conf file that refers to /home/kozlyk
[08:42] <m0unds> woot.
[08:42] <m0unds> got my 3d working
[08:42] <m0unds> that was quick, too. yay.
[08:42] <IceDC571> m0unds: congrats, are you new?
[08:43] <m0unds> to ubuntu? yes
[08:43] <m0unds> to linux? no
[08:43] <spermie_411> how do i check whats running on my system
[08:43] <spermie_411> iforgot
[08:43] <IceDC571> m0unds: what distros did you migrate from?
[08:43] <efigyidol> dtorg21: what seems to be the problem?
[08:43] <m0unds> fedora core and slackware
[08:43] <m0unds> fedora as a desktop/notebook solution
[08:43] <m0unds> and slackware server
[08:44] <m0unds> my webserver's still running fedora, but i changed my desktop dualboot and my notebook dualboot to ubuntu today
[08:44] <IceDC571> i see
[08:44] <m0unds> $ glxgears
[08:44] <m0unds> 13903 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2780.600 FPS
[08:44] <m0unds> yay.
[08:44] <spermie_411> how do i check whats running on my system // my cpu usage ?
[08:44] <m0unds> ps -aux
[08:45] <m0unds> or top
[08:45] <m0unds> for realtime
[08:45] <m0unds> :)
[08:45] <kozlyk> efigyidol: apparently i don't have a smbd.conf file.  I have a smb.conf
[08:45] <spermie_411> thank ya boss
[08:45] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - spermie, - top in a terminal "top" see also atop and ntop
[08:45] <m0unds> you bet
[08:46] <efigyidol> kozlyk: ok, paste it. It's been a while since I used samba
[08:46] <vladuz976> is there any way i can make a usb keyboard work in console? i have an apple keyboard usb
[08:46] <anacron> i add some hard-drives and now my windows won't start, can this be a problem with grup (or what ever the bootloader is), and how do i edit it?
[08:47] <Computer__Guru> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/800 <-- what's that mean and how do i fix it? every program i try to open this mp4 with harfs and dies
[08:47] <kozlyk> efigyidol: posted
[08:47] <DekaPink> Where does Firefox keep its themes? :3
[08:48] <Computer__Guru> ~/.firefox/themes i think
[08:48] <DekaPink> Thank you. :3
[08:48] <kozlyk> efigyidol: i do have one more problem.  How can i get access to the server with the firewall up?
[08:48] <Echelon-H> how can I activate a checkbox without using the mouse?
[08:48] <Computer__Guru> guess not, heh
[08:49] <Computer__Guru> Echelon-H: hit the space bar when it has index focus ont he form
[08:49] <efigyidol> kozylk: i'm not sure about the firewall part, it should be an issue. looks like you need to set xp to authenticate as guest
[08:49] <skalpel> how do i open task manager?
[08:49] <Computer__Guru> top
[08:49] <Gourami> If there is an error on a wiki how does one get it fixed ?
[08:49] <skalpel> and, is there a task manager like in windows nt that will allow me to kill processes that are not responding or soaking up memory?
[08:50] <kozlyk> efigyidol: how do you mean? sorry for my questions\
[08:50] <skalpel> also, how do i check to see how much swap space i have/am using
[08:50] <bimberi> skalpel: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[08:50] <anacron> is 4076 fps from glxgears good?
[08:50] <Computer__Guru> cat /proc/meminfo
[08:50] <skalpel> bimberi: k. how much memory should gnome-panel be using?
[08:50] <Gourami> skalpel: top will alos give you swap info
[08:50] <efigyidol> kozlyk: you might need to set usermasks and directory masks for that particular share, I would say that the user that is trying to access the sharr, doesn't have permissions to your home directory.
[08:51] <efigyidol> kozlyk: man smb.conf
[08:51] <m0unds> anacron- that's great
[08:51] <m0unds> anacron- what video card?
[08:51] <bimberi> skalpel: mine uses 28.3 MB
[08:51] <anacron> m0unds: good, then the drivers work, msi 6600 256mb
[08:51] <skalpel> ok, evidently i do not have any swap space
[08:51] <skalpel> how do i set that up?
[08:51] <Computer__Guru> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/800 <--- why did this file die? all that is greek to me
[08:51] <skalpel> bimberi: mine is using about the same, it is my swapspace that is the problem
[08:52] <skalpel> evidently
[08:52] <m0unds> anyone have a suggestion for a notebook speed tray application?
[08:52] <skalpel> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    92272k cached
[08:52] <m0unds> for like..centrino/pentium M notebooks?
[08:52] <skalpel> is that bad?
[08:52] <Computer__Guru> wellt here you go
[08:52] <Computer__Guru> you are not using swap
[08:52] <skalpel> k, i should have known
[08:52] <DekaPink> I want to install the graphite aviary theme for Firefox. :3
[08:52] <skalpel> what do i need to do to set up a swap partition
[08:52] <skalpel> ?
[08:53] <shoshe> can anyone help me with the installation of NVidia Display Driver ?
[08:53] <Computer__Guru> well, you need to create the partition, then "mkswap /dev/whatever"
[08:53] <anacron> hey anyone?, do i have to reinstall my windows, or how can i edit grep? grub or what's the bootloaders name
[08:53] <Computer__Guru> make sure when you partition it you select swap as the file type (82)
[08:53] <skalpel> computer_guru: how do i create the partition?
[08:53] <kozlyk> efigyidol: i ran 'man smb.conf' and got a few 'warning: can't find numbered character 160'
[08:54] <m0unds> umm, if you installed as a dualboot
[08:54] <Computer__Guru> cfdisk or parted.. be careful
[08:54] <m0unds> and you opted to install to the MBR (grub)
[08:54] <m0unds> then you should be fine
[08:54] <skalpel> i did install as a dualbuat
[08:54] <skalpel> boot
[08:54] <m0unds> it should have detected that you had winxp installed and given you the option to install to the master boot record
[08:54] <skalpel> i do not remember if i installed to the mbr or not
[08:54] <skalpel> i may not have
[08:54] <Computer__Guru> does ANYONE have a solution to my problem?
[08:54] <Echelon-H> what's lsmode?
[08:54] <m0unds> sorry, i'm talking to anacron
[08:55] <skalpel> oh sorry
[08:55] <m0unds> :)
[08:55] <m0unds> lsmod
[08:55] <skalpel> computer_guru: can i use parted from xwindows?
[08:55] <m0unds> lsmod shows you all the modules that are either running or installed, i can't remember
[08:55] <Computer__Guru> i dont know
[08:55] <Echelon-H> k thx
[08:55] <skalpel> i think i can
[08:55] <shoshe> can anyone help me with the installation of NVidia Display Driver ?
[08:56] <skalpel> jon@klaus:~$ parted
[08:56] <skalpel> Error: No device found
[08:56] <skalpel> what does that mean?
[08:56] <anacron> shoshe: ubuntu wiki can
[08:56] <m0unds> anyone have a preferred linux mp3 player?
[08:56] <skalpel> m0unds: beep media player works well, as does xmms.
[08:56] <m0unds> beep. ok
[08:56] <puff> I just asked that question, still trying to install someting.
[08:57] <m0unds> i hate xmms :)
[08:57] <skalpel> me too
[08:57] <m0unds> so thanks for the alternative
[08:57] <skalpel> actually
[08:57] <skalpel> beep is somewhat similar to xmms
[08:57] <thoreauputic> skalpel: to start with, you can't partition a mounted system, second, I think parted would need to be pointed at a device (eg ./dev/hda )
[08:57] <puff> Ran into an apt problem.
[08:57] <skalpel> but they are the only players i can get to work for my box
[08:57] <Echelon-H> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3256 can anyone help me out with this? I am having trouble with the GSM codec and the OSS thing.
 actually i checked it and the solution to my problem is not there ! :S
[08:57] <rob^> how the heck does one sign up for a soulseek account?
[08:57] <efigyidol> kozlyk: urk!?
[08:57] <skalpel> thoreaputic: i am pretty new to linux, can you walk me through this?
[08:57] <skalpel> do i need to log out of xwindows?
[08:58] <kozlyk> ?
[08:58] <anacron> shoshe: then just ask your question, and someone might help
[08:58] <kozlyk> efigyidol: i ran 'man smb.conf' and got a few 'warning: can't find numbered character 160'
[08:58] <efigyidol> kozlyk: okay have a look at the samba website, I have exausted my knowlege of samba
[08:58] <thoreauputic> skalpel: are you sure you have no swap? The install should have set it up doe you
[08:58] <thoreauputic> *for
[08:58] <kozlyk> ok, so what about user permissions then
[08:58] <puff> People recommended xmms, amarok, juk, mpg123/mpg321, madplay, ogg123.
[08:59] <puff> Sounds like amarok and juk are KDE based and thus require extra libs.
 ok when i try to compile the nvidia_kernel headers it says "You appear to be compiling the NVdriver kernel module with
[08:59] <shoshe> a compiler different from the one that was used to compile
[08:59] <shoshe> the running kernel" ..
[08:59] <puff> For videos, dvds, etc, people recmmended mplayer, xine, and totem.
[08:59] <thoreauputic> puff: correct
[08:59] <m0unds> ok. time to go. night everyone
[08:59] <Gourami> what is the command to delete a directory ?
[08:59] <kozlyk> i went into users and groups, but there is only checkboxes for other stuff like modems, floppy disks, nothing about hard drive directories
[08:59] <shoshe> a compiler different from the one that was used to compile
[08:59] <shoshe> the running kernel.
[08:59] <skalpel> thoreaputic: it should have, but top says i have no swap space, and i am having terrible memory problems, it must be true
[08:59] <thoreauputic> Gourami: rmdir (if it's empty)
[09:00] <kozlyk> efigyidol: thanx for your help though.  i am farther than i was before.
[09:00] <Gourami> thank you
[09:00] <puff> okay, so I gave synaptic a shot and I like apt-get better for diagnostics & feedback, though i guess synaptic is better for package browsing.
[09:00] <puff> I'd really like to see something generate a slick graphical tree diagram of paackage dependencies.
[09:01] <puff> But i ran into two problems, first it complained about unautheticated stuff.  Synaptics just said "some things", apt-get listed them.
[09:01] <skapple> thoreaputic: how do i unmount my filesystem?
[09:01] <puff> Tried installing them anyway, but synaptic reported a problem getting one of the libs... vague about what the problem was though.
[09:01] <thoreauputic> skalpel: type ' sudo fdisk -l ' (without quotes) and see if there is an entry with "linux swap" type 82
[09:02] <skapple> ok
[09:02] <skapple> thoreaputic: no, i do not have a swap, i have 2 linux partitions instead
[09:02] <thoreauputic> skalpel: you can't umount a volume that's in use ( like your Ubuntu syatem)
[09:02] <puff> dist-upgrade is replacing a *lot* of stuff.  Hm.
[09:03] <kozlyk> efigyidol: you know anyone else good at obscure samba issues?
[09:03] <skapple> thoreaputic: i had some weird problems with windows xp because i have pc recovery software on my emachine
[09:03] <thoreauputic> skapple: if you have 2 linux partitions, what are their mount points? Is one / and the other /home? Or is one unused?
[09:04] <skapple> thoreaputic: it does not list their mount points, they are /dev/hda1, and /dev hda3
[09:04] <Gourami> pls can someone tell me if there is anything wring with this syntax: //<IP_ADDRESS>/users        /media/zatrmser0  smbfs   credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777   0       0
[09:04] <thoreauputic> skapple: hmm - i can't help with windows - I've sworn off the evil empire ;)
[09:04] <skapple> thoreaputic: /dev/hda2 is a fat32 restoration partition
[09:04] <nJess> gah
[09:04] <Computer__Guru> [h264 @ 0xb5e48998] error, NO frame
[09:04] <Computer__Guru> gxine: h264.c:1967: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0] ' failed.
[09:04] <Computer__Guru> Aborted
[09:04] <efigyidol> kozlyk: it's not obscure, it's just that you need to read more. It takes a while to figure out how it works because its so configureable.
[09:05] <Computer__Guru> that plays in windows, wtf is wrong with it
[09:05] <nJess> my kernel has been compiling for over 4 hours
[09:05] <skapple> thoreaputic: well how do i know which linux partition ubuntu is using? they appear to be about the same size
[09:05] <thoreauputic> skapple: what is /dev/hda3? Is that the linux part?
[09:05] <skapple> thoreaputic: yes, and i think that is the one ubuntu is using
[09:05] <skapple> they are about the same size, 25 gigs for one, and 40 for /dev/hda3
[09:06] <DekaPink> Nnnn... I love my computer on Ubuntu. If it had emotions, Ubuntu would make it happy, I'm sure. xD
[09:06] <thoreauputic> skapple: I asume /dev/hda1 is windows - thus you would need to use a rescue disc to repartition /dev/hda3 to have swap space
[09:06] <skalpel> /dev/hda1 is linux, tye 83
[09:06] <skalpel> type 83
[09:06] <thoreauputic> skapple: the other way is to make a swap file instead
[09:06] <thoreauputic> skalpel: ? So where is windows?
[09:06] <Computer__Guru> there's an avidemux package in backports *uNF*
[09:06] <skalpel> thoreaputic: does that work as well, the swapfile?
[09:06] <efigyidol> kozlyk: pasting error messages in to google with quotes around them may help you track down certain problems. you need to find out the cause of the problem by looking at your logs, also the url that I sent you provides some other troubleshooting ideas too.
[09:07] <skalpel> thoreaputic: well according to fdisk windows xp is not there. there is only the fat32 restoration partition. which i am not using because i have ubuntu installed. i cannot dual buat even though grub shows an xp boot there
[09:07] <thoreauputic> skalpel: yes - you make a file full of zeros and assign it as swap ( I forget the exact method)
[09:07] <cafuego> dd if=/dev/zero of=./swap.file bs=1M count=512
[09:08] <cafuego> ... for a 512M file
[09:08] <thoreauputic> cafuego: thanks
[09:08] <skalpel> thoreaputic: fdisk lists the fat32 restoration partition as the only bootable partition but i have been booting ubuntu fine
[09:08] <skalpel> i type that on the command line?
[09:08] <DekaPink> Also, I'm impressed with having it back to the way it was before in only a couple hours... It seems that whenever I have to completely reinstall windows, I'm spending days if not weeks having to get a bunch of little things from all over the place to have what I'm used to. :3
[09:08] <cafuego> skalpel: yep
[09:08] <cafuego> skalpel: That will make a 512MB file full of zeroes.
[09:08] <thoreauputic> skalpel: the swap.file is the name of the new file, yeah
[09:09] <cafuego> skalpel: You can bzip it to 4Kb :-)
[09:09] <skalpel> 512+0 records in
[09:09] <skalpel> 512+0 records out
[09:09] <skalpel> 536870912 bytes transferred in 16.166151 seconds (33209569 bytes/sec)
[09:09] <skalpel> k
[09:09] <skalpel> cafuego: why would i do that?
[09:09] <cafuego> skalpel: mail it to an unsuspecting user and watch windows die
[09:09] <cafuego> anyway, i digress
[09:09] <skalpel> haha no thank you
[09:09] <bimberi> lol
[09:09] <skalpel> how do i point ubuntu to the swapfile now?
[09:09] <thoreauputic> skalpel: now you need to 'sudo swapon swap.file' IIRC
[09:09] <skalpel> ok
[09:10] <cafuego> skalpel: make sure the file is root:root, mode 0600
[09:10] <skalpel> swapon: swap.file: Invalid argument
[09:10] <skalpel> cafuego: i do not know how to do that
[09:10] <cafuego> skalpel: sudo chown root:root swap.file; sudo chmod 0600 swap.file
[09:10] <anacron> how im going to make grub work again if i now install windows?
[09:11] <skalpel> ok, done
[09:11] <skalpel> now why am i getting the invalid argument error when i try to swapon?
[09:11] <cafuego> skalpel: sudo mkswap ./swap.file
[09:11] <bimberi> anacron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:12] <Computer__Guru> gxine: h264.c:1967: mc_dir_part: Assertion `pic->data[0] ' failed.
[09:12] <Computer__Guru> Aborted
[09:12] <Computer__Guru>  <-- WTF does that mean?
[09:12] <cafuego> skalpel: Turn it into a swap partition first
[09:12] <skalpel> cafuego: Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 536866 kB
[09:12] <skalpel> no label, UUID=32d1b635-eb37-4ce3-8b24-508e37a4dc99
[09:12] <cafuego> skalpel: swapon will work afetr that
[09:12] <skalpel> alright
[09:12] <skalpel> thank you
[09:12] <skalpel> is that all i need to do now?
[09:12] <cafuego> skalpel: Then run 'free' and note swap space
[09:12] <skalpel> reeSwap:       524280          0     524280
[09:12] <skalpel> thank you
[09:12] <skalpel> much better =)
[09:13] <thoreauputic> skalpel: :)
[09:13] <cafuego> skalpel: See also 'swapon -s'
[09:13] <skalpel> thoreaputic: and thank you, very much
[09:13] <Echelon-H> is there anyway to make the GSM sound codec work under linux?
[09:13] <Computer__Guru> dont forget to put it in fstab so it will stick
[09:13] <thoreauputic> skalpel: well, cafuego did the heavy lifting for me ;)
[09:14] <cafuego> stop accusing me or i'll have you banned!
[09:14] <thoreauputic> heheh
[09:14] <Echelon-H> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3256 can anyone help me out with this?
[09:14] <skalpel> computer_guru: was that to me, or someone else?
[09:15] <cafuego> skalpel: that was to you
[09:15] <skalpel> how do i put it in fstab?
[09:15] <cafuego> skalpel: You need an fstab entry like "/path/to/swap.file  none  swap  pri=1,defaults  0  0
[09:19] <skalpel> well first off, what is fstab?
[09:19] <bimberi> skalpel: /etc/fstab (a file)
[09:19] <cafuego> skalpel: /etc/fstab
[09:19] <skalpel> so just edit with pico huh?
[09:20] <skalpel> i will just paste in what you have given me then
[09:20] <cafuego> skalpel: Just add what i typed to the bottom, makijng sure the path to the swap.file is correct
[09:20] <thoreauputic> skalpel: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:20] <adapter> everytime I try to play something in xmms it crashes...any ideas?
[09:20] <cafuego> stop using xmms, use beep-media-player
[09:20] <DekaPink> Yargh... bittornado...
[09:20] <puff> hm, if i just want cvs _client_, not server, is there a package I can install?
[09:21] <cafuego> puff: cvs
[09:21] <skalpel> cafuego: well given what you have told me what is the path to the swap file? i think i was in my home dir when i made it
[09:21] <skalpel> can i just do locate swap.file?
[09:21] <cafuego> puff: Just tell it 'no'when it asks if you want to enable the server
[09:21] <adapter> is xmms really that bad?
[09:21] <skalpel> xmms is awfull.
[09:21] <cafuego> skalpel: sudo mv swap.file /
[09:21] <olaf> hey, can you install packages on ubuntu temorarily?
[09:21] <cafuego> skalpel: Just plonk it there, nice and easy.
[09:21] <olaf> say i have the live cd in
[09:21] <olaf> and a floppy with a package i want to install
[09:21] <skalpel> ok
[09:21] <cafuego> skalpel: So then it will be /swap.file
[09:21] <adapter> so I should go with beep media player?
[09:21] <olaf> can i install it and use it?
[09:22] <jtan325> how is xmms awful?
[09:22] <skalpel> so the path to the swapfile is now /swap.file
[09:22] <DekaPink> How do I set bittornado as my default client instead of gnome-bittorrent or whatever? :3
[09:22] <cafuego> jtan325: nonstandard widgets. bmp too, for that matter.
[09:22] <MrGardenHoseMan> xmms is pretty much like winamp
[09:22] <skalpel> xmms sucks. ubuntu needs a player like wmp that works
[09:22] <cafuego> skalpel: After you have moved it, yes.
[09:22] <skalpel> windows has it all over linux in that area
[09:22] <skalpel> cafuego: k thank you
[09:22] <yoot> how can i make ubuntu stay at command line until i type start x
[09:22] <puff> cafuego: thank you.
[09:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> eh it's a player
[09:23] <thoreauputic> skalpel: amarok is pretty nice
[09:23] <cafuego> skalpel: wmp is a very bad example, as it's a total piece of shit.
[09:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> and that's all i need
[09:23] <jtan325> yoot, there is something in one of gnome's configuration menus that allows you to change the login screen options
[09:23] <cafuego> (excusez ma francias)
[09:23] <skalpel> i wish rhythm box would work for me.
[09:23] <DekaPink> Whoops... Smack my ass and call me judy, I didn't install the gui.
[09:23] <skalpel> actually now that i thinkk about it, that may get blamed on the lack of a swapfile
[09:23] <skalpel> hehe
[09:23] <yoot> jtan325, checked out that
[09:24] <cafuego> skalpel: if you run otu of swap there might be an actual problem (but you CAN always add more swapfiles ;-)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> yoot:  echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[09:24] <yoot> and if i want to chang it back?
[09:24] <yoot> "true" ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> yoot: put /usr/bin/gdm in that file to restore it
[09:25] <jtan325> yoot, i don't know where it is graphically, but you can launch what i am talking about by doing "gksudo gdmconfig" from the command line
[09:25] <yoot> ok thanks both
[09:25] <skalpel> cafuego: so fstab should look like this, correct?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> yoot: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager to see
[09:25] <skalpel> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[09:25] <skalpel> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:25] <skalpel> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[09:25] <yoot> k
[09:25] <skalpel> hmm
[09:26] <cafuego> skalpel: please don't paste into the channel.
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> woot.
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> I tricked it.
[09:26] <nJess> my kernel has been compiling for the last 4 hours, will i have issues if i try to use this thing?
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> Synaptic says that upgrading thunderbird upgrades typeaheadfind and removes enigmail
[09:26] <cafuego> nJess: definitely "maybe"
[09:27] <bluefoxicy> and when setting enigmail to reinstall, it cancels the upgrade of thunderbird and typeahead find.
[09:27] <skalpel> cafuego: how will i know if it gets added to my fstab correctly?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> skalpel: that /etc/fstab has no entry for swap
[09:27] <skalpel> yes. hold on
[09:27] <bluefoxicy> upgrading thunderbird will then uninstall enigmail and upgrade typeaheadfind, but upgrading typeaheadfind will upgrade thunderbird and leave enigmail installed ;)
[09:27] <cafuego> skalpel: AFter you add it, run 'swapoff -a' and see what happens
[09:27] <bluefoxicy> (if you upgrade typeaheadfind from the start, it uninstalls enigmail and upgrades thunderbird)
[09:28] <cafuego> skalpel: After that,. run 'swapon -a'
[09:28] <leroj> what is mozilla/firefox "deer Park"?
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> ouch
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> enigmail broke
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> and got uninstalled :(
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> it bit me
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> I tricked it and it got mad >:(
[09:28] <thoreauputic> leroj: the next version of FF
[09:28] <efigyidol-away> grasshopper: swap on with your left swapoff with your right
[09:28] <leroj> ooh
[09:28] <leroj> cool
[09:29] <olaf> deer park is basically the release candidate for firefox 1.1 final
[09:29] <olaf> most all of what is seen in deer park will be in 1.1
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> 1.5 final.
[09:29] <olaf> oh yeah
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> 1.1 won't happen.
[09:29] <olaf> 1.5, my bad
[09:29] <cafuego> it's also a suburb of melbourne, Australia. A really SHIT suburb.
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> and deer park is a feature-incomplete technology preview.
[09:30] <cafuego> Nobody would admit to living in deer park
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> a release candidate is a feature-complete assumed-stable
[09:30] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I heard the next version will be "Bacchus Marsh" ;-)
[09:30] <thoreauputic> hahah