[10:26] <blinkiz> Hi. I have a lot of different machines I login to with ssh each day. It's getting to much to keep all these ports and ip numbers in my head, so I need to have.. something. Like a gui where I can easily save all my ssh sessions. Anyone that knows what am talking about here? :)
[10:27] <lstarnes> blinkiz: do any of them have actual DNS hostnames instead of just IP addresses?
[10:27] <blinkiz> lstarnes, yea, some of them have dns names
[10:28] <lstarnes> blinkiz: you could add entries for the IPs to /etc/hosts
[10:28] <blinkiz> lstarnes, well, it does not solve that each machine has different usernames and ports
[10:29] <lstarnes> blinkiz: you might just have to memorize them.  I think putty supports storing sessions
[10:29] <blinkiz> lstarnes, yes it does. Is something like putty am looking for
[10:29] <lstarnes> blinkiz: possibly
[10:29] <lstarnes> blinkiz: but I prefer using cli utilities instead of gui whenever possible
[10:30] <blinkiz> lstarnes, well, a nice bash script would work for me
[10:30] <lstarnes> blinkiz: you could write a bash script for it
[10:31] <blinkiz> lstarnes, yeah, but maybe someone in #ubuntu had a better solution I thought :)
[10:32] <jolaren> Hey. I'm thinking about getting a Hauppauge TV-Kort WinTV Nova T for recording television. But I wonder if its possible to connect the usb tv card directly to my CA module?
[10:35] <Younder> blinkiz, do you need to do the same thing on many machines?
[10:35] <blinkiz> Younder, no, everyone is different
[10:36] <Younder> blinkiz, do you know how to program?
[10:36] <blinkiz> Younder, yes
[10:36] <Younder> blinkiz, what language(s) do you you use?
[10:36] <blinkiz> Younder, bash and php
[10:37] <Younder> blinkiz, well learn some python..
[10:37] <blinkiz> Younder, okay, nice solution...
[10:37] <Younder> blinkiz, The best for this sort of thing is probaly a menudriven ncurses app.
[10:38] <llutz> blinkiz: there's putty for linux too, don't know if that would help
[10:38] <blinkiz> llutz, Hmm, going to check that out
[10:38] <g5pw> hi! anyone got a clue why my ubuntu box doesn't halt? it displays [*numbers*]: System halted and stops there...
[10:39] <lstarnes> g5pw: what method are you using for halting?
[10:39] <g5pw> sudo halt
[10:39] <L-four> Hey in bash can some one tell me how to find available displays, i and trying to start programs remotely on to a remote display.
[10:39] <lstarnes> g5pw: try sudo shutdown -h now
[10:39] <L-four> lol no
[10:39] <Younder> blinkiz, Seriously when your demands become spesific to your needs eventually you will have to roll your own, and python makes a great srcipting tool. Much better than bash.
[10:39] <g5pw> mmh.. it does the same thing, i think...
[10:40] <g5pw> trying now
[10:40] <lstarnes> g5pw: shutdown handles things differently
[10:40] <blinkiz> have found hotssh, putty, sshm, sshmenu and secpanel so far in the repository. Probably something will suite me :)
[10:40] <g5pw> ok, will try now, tnx
[10:41] <blinkiz> sshm and sshmenu seems to be really good. Someone that has a console program to manage all ssh sessions. :)
[10:42] <g5pw> Istarnes: same thing... [*numbers*] System halted.
[10:42] <lstarnes> g5pw: what about sudo poweroff?
[10:42] <tnm> hey, right now, i am using ubuntu 9.10 over microsoft virtual PC. is there any possibility to change to bigger resolution then 800x600
[10:43] <g5pw> will try now.. :) i fear it's something with bios.. is it possible?
[10:43] <ZoltaR1> piszecie cos?
[10:44] <bazhang> !pl | ZoltaR1
[10:48] <g5pw> Istarnes: trying now...
[10:49] <g5pw> Istarnes: no luck... same thing...
[10:49] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'
[10:49] <daurnimator> hi
[10:49] <daurnimator> got a filmscanner here (usb) with no apparent linux support... what can I do?
[10:49] <daurnimator> lsusb shows: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:1550 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. VEHO Filmscanner
[10:51] <tnm> i have a qustion. is there still xorg.conf file in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:52] <llutz> tnm: not perdefault
[10:52] <Younder> daurnimator, as far as I can see this question has been asked before, and the answer is there isn't mone yet..
[10:53] <Younder> daurnimator, so it looks like you are shit out of luck.. Either write a driver your self (fat chance) or wait to one becomes available. (They say a 'few' months.)
[10:53] <tnm> llutz, how can i modify my resolution then, if i am using virtual pc for testing ubuntu?
[10:53] <llutz> tnm: you always can create that file and make your changes
[10:54] <subitoo> hi, where is stored the yakuake history?
[10:54] <tnm> llutz, ok, i'll create my own xorg.conf
[10:54] <jcoxon> hmm, i've managed to delete the applet for cellwriter is there a way of putting it back in the dock?
[10:55] <jcoxon> if i open cellwriter from the menu it doesn't go into the dock
[10:55] <subitoo> my ctrl+r command doesn't work anymore (for searching into the history) what can i do?
[10:55] <elky> Younder, please watch your language.
[10:56] <Younder> daurnimator, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8498986
[10:56] <llutz> daurnimator: check out for vuescan, not free but should work
[10:56] <daurnimator> Younder: so.. my question is, what can I do to fix it? or add support?
[10:57] <daurnimator> hell, I don't even know if its a scanner or a camera >.<
[10:57] <jcoxon> fixed :-), no worries
[10:59] <Younder> daurnimator, see the JDrbik reply
[10:59] <cetanu> can anybody help me... my display does not work in 9.10 kernel 2.6.31-17... but it does in 2.6.28-17
[10:59] <Younder> JDrabic
[10:59] <Zlobi> Hello
[11:01] <EleanorC> join #ubuntu-cn-translators
[11:01] <murder> fe.com.br
[11:01] <daurnimator> Younder: ah ok, cool
[11:01]  * daurnimator was up to looking at datasheets for the chip inside to write a kernal module >.<
[11:01] <Zlobi> I am trying http://www.ehow.com/how_5183447_make-radio-stream-ubuntu.html Fine until step 7, then "Starting icecast2: start-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 126 (Operation not permitted)" Using Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop, not server tho...
[11:02] <EleanorC> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:02] <EleanorC> anyone can help me to get into #ubuntu-cn-translators?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:03] <Zlobi> EleanorC: /join
[11:03] <lstarnes> EleanorC: type /join #ubuntu-cn  or  /join #ubuntu-cn-translators
[11:03] <Zlobi> I am trying http://www.ehow.com/how_5183447_make-radio-stream-ubuntu.html Fine until step 7, then "Starting icecast2: start-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 126 (Operation not permitted)" Using Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop, not server tho...
[11:04] <cetanu> Zlobi, have you put "sudo" before the command you use?
[11:04] <Zlobi> cetanu, yep tried, no difference
[11:04] <sameepreturns> I turned on pidgin's buddy ticker.......now i cant remember where i did it from......how to turn it off??
[11:04] <cetanu> have you tried in a root terminal?
[11:05] <Zlobi> well, there is a difference in error... : zlobi@serv1:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/icecast2 start
[11:05] <Zlobi> [sudo] password for zlobi:
[11:05] <Zlobi> Starting icecast2: Starting icecast2
[11:05] <Zlobi> Detaching from the console
[11:05] <Zlobi> Server startup failed. Exiting
[11:05] <FloodBot4> Zlobi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <Zlobi> icecast2.
[11:05] <ActionParsnip1> Zlobi: does: cat /etc/group | grep 126    output anything?
[11:05] <Zlobi> will do, tho imo first time was in root
[11:06] <Zlobi> (opened terminal from sudo-ed thunar)
[11:06] <cyberjorge> what's the good tool to setup a local FTP in ubuntu server to act as installation server?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> Zlobi: i hope you used gksudo and not sudo for thunar
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> cyberjorge: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/settingup-an-ftp-server-on-ubuntu-with-proftpd.html
[11:07] <Zlobi> ActionParsnip: 1 Output: icecast:x:126: 2. Nope, used just sudo...
[11:08] <Zlobi> will try gksudo now
[11:08] <ActionParsnip1> Zlobi: ok thats good, now you know what gid 126 actually is
[11:08] <yancho> guys, i got 2 sata disks which are hardware raided .. is there some way i can load them on another machine both in sata raid and get their data? or once you move the raid controller all the data is lost? .. guys, i got 2 sata disks which are hardware raided .. is there some way i can load them on another machine both in sata raid and get their data? or once you move the raid controller all the data is lost?  any idea how i can che
[11:08] <linduxed> i cant seem to find mitter in the repositories, is there a way to get mitter for karmic?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> yancho: what level of raid?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> !info mitter
[11:09] <cyberjorge> thanks ActionParsnip1, will try that.
[11:09] <Gustava> hey all, just discovered that my ubuntu installation doesn't have a UUID associated with /dev/sda (mounted as /) - (blkid only lists sdb and sdc) - any advice on how to fix this? (Merry Christmas, btw :-))
[11:09] <cetanu> # does anyone tell me how to boot into a command line interface from grub?
[11:09] <yancho> ActionParsnip1: not sure .. disk utility is saying ddf_raid_member .. the live cd is bringing up 2 copies of each partition
[11:09] <ActionParsnip1> linduxed: https://launchpad.net/~ikuya-fruitsbasket/+archive/ppa
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> yancho:if its a RAID0 you will need both drives, if its raid1 then one drive can be used on its own to get the data off or clone another drive
[11:10] <Zlobi> AP1: You mean, gip 126 is the usual permission mess :P
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> Zlobi: no idea, tab complete my nickas well please dude
[11:11] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> Zlobi: but the gid is valid though
[11:11] <Zlobi> A quick one, I know it's in FAQ, but these make live chat useful, how was setting the root pass?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> !noroot | Zlobi
[11:11] <yancho> ActionParsnip1: both or signle drives for me is no problem .. i can load them on another machine .. the problem is if the raid controller is changed .. im going from a dell server to a cheap acer motherboard
[11:11] <cetanu> Can anyone tell me how to boot into command line from grub?
[11:12] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: thx
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> cetanu: add the boot option: single
[11:12] <AdvoWork> Is there a way to tell if there are malicious programs running on an ubuntu pc, ie keyloggers etc
[11:12] <Zlobi> ok, thanks for now, will report soon for the result
[11:12] <ActionParsnip1> AdvoWork: http://www.randombugs.com/hacker/scan-rootkits-ubuntu-debian.html
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> !info rkhunter
[11:13] <cetanu> ActionParsnip1: it just reboots when I add single as a boot option
[11:13] <Shay27> Hello , i am using the grep command in order to find string (grep "mystring") i would like to replace the current string with other string does it possible ?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> cetanu: ok then read /boot/grub/grub.cfg   you will see the difference in the kernel options
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> Shay27: i'd ask in #bash if nobody replys
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> Shay27: but its very possible
[11:15] <yancho> ActionParsnip1: is there some way i can check from terminal what type of raid i have please?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> Shay27: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-replace-string-words-in-many-files/
[11:15] <Hald> Hi all
[11:16] <indus> hello
[11:16] <indus> Hald:
[11:16] <ActionParsnip1> Shay27: could even script it to take args for the word to replace and the word to replace with ;)
[11:16] <Hald> I just installed 8.10 from 9.10 since my ATI card had very bad performance in 9.10. But I can't seam to find the proparity drivers in 8.10... why where are they?
[11:17] <Hald> has ubuntu become useless to me now days?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:17] <Hald> I just wish I never upgraded. I had everything working before
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: then you fixed something which wasnt broken
[11:17] <Hald> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[11:18] <NET||abuse> getting a weird bug in hamster applet, 2.28.0   i start an activity and it jumps to 121131h 57m  immediately.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: http://www.amd.com/uk/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx   you are still supported by the proprietary driver
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: your card is the bottom of the supported cards
[11:18] <Hald> but it does not show up in the hardware driver thingie
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: if it doesnt use the driver file on the ati site
[11:19] <NET||abuse> i try to set a project activity as in progress and it does the same, no activity and the item i try to use is suddenly 121131h 57m
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: you will need to mark it as executable, then run from terminal
[11:21] <Hald> I hope this works
[11:21] <sarthorks> my fat 32 formatted usb drive doesnt work in windows . can anyone help?
[11:21] <Hald> if it does, and I manage to install OO 3.0 I will lock this HD for ever and never press that upgrade button ever again....
[11:22] <Gustava> hey all, just discovered that my ubuntu installation doesn't have a UUID associated with /dev/sda (mounted as /) - (blkid only lists sdb and sdc) - any advice on how to fix this? (I think this is causing other problems too: need to customise menu.lst for every kernel upgrade, and I have terrible disk read performance (<10 MB/sec))
[11:22] <edi_99> Hi all. I'm trying to create a classpath for a jar file. I have it in /home/edi/JUnitHome/junit.jar. I tried "export CLASSPATH=.:/home/edi/JUnitHome/junit.jar" but it's not working. Could anyone help me?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: disks don't have UUIDs. only partitions do
[11:23] <airtonix> edi_99, #java ?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: so /dev/sda will not have a UUID but /dev/sda1 will
[11:23] <edi_99> airtonix: nobody cares :)
[11:23] <infid> why is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf empty in ubuntu?
[11:23] <jpds> infid: Don't we use apache2.conf instead?
[11:23] <airtonix> edi_99, unfortunatly (unless i point this out) they'll care even less here
[11:23] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: sorry - I meant that there are no UUIDs for my /dev/sdaX partitions, but there are for /dev/sdbX and /dev/sdcX
[11:24] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: ok just clarifying
[11:24] <airtonix> edi_99, for what it's worht you could try asking this ins #wowuidev
[11:24] <edi_99> airtonix: OK, I'll try. Thanks.
[11:24] <ryguy> is there a way to sort your favorites in ubuntu netbook remix 9.10?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: you can still use /dev/sdXY in fstab and menu.lst as far as I am aware
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: is there a known issue with problems with your drive controller and/or drive manufacturer
[11:25] <Hald> ok, hold your thumbs for me. Now I reboot
[11:25] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: yes, I have read that is possible, but I would like to fix the issue (and hope it fixes the other problems too) rather than work around it
[11:26] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: I don't think so, but I'm not certain!
[11:26] <indus> hello
[11:26] <hassanakevazir> Has anyone here been able to get vdpau to work here?
[11:27] <indus> reminds me of vada pav a delicious food here
[11:27] <indus> hassanakevazir: do you have an 8 series card
[11:27] <sameepreturns> sounds not working......can someone help me troubleshoot
[11:27] <sameepreturns> @indus lol
[11:27] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: do you have any idea why the root partition would not have an associated UUID?
[11:28] <Zlobi> Hello again, new small issue, googled even yesterday when happened for shoutcast. cupsd is on 8000. How to move cupsd to another port, no such option in cupsd.conf Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop
[11:28] <indus> ahehe
[11:28] <hassanakevazir> indus, yes
[11:28] <indus> but iam in bangalore now so i miss it
[11:28] <indus> hassanakevazir: which version og the friver did you install
[11:29] <sameepreturns> I am in Delhi.....i make sure whenever I visit mumbai..i have lots of em...
[11:29] <indus> sameepreturns: so whats your sound problem
[11:29] <indus> vadapavu :)
[11:29] <sameepreturns> its been bugging me since I installed ubuntu...
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: possible controller/drive bug but otherwise no idea
[11:29] <sameepreturns> can't play sounds at all
[11:29] <indus> sameepreturns: so whats your sound card etc
[11:30] <hassanakevazir> indus, 195.22
[11:30] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: Ok - I'll keep hunting - thanks
[11:30] <indus> hassanakevazir: how do u know it isnt working?
[11:30] <indus> no way to know that now do we
[11:30] <Zlobi> sameepreturns: I needed just to select Master channel
[11:30] <Zlobi> what's your card?
[11:30] <indus> sameepreturns: so what is in sound properties
[11:30] <sameepreturns> plus I am a beginner....so the pages I googled etc are of little use.....they go above my head
[11:30] <indus> sound is actually the easiest to get working
[11:31] <indus> sameepreturns: did you clean your ears?
[11:31] <hassanakevazir> I am using avenard's repository, I have tried the nvidia-vdpau's lauchpad repository, and have tried the regular standard ubuntu repositories. It just doesn't work anymore
[11:31] <indus> works sometimes
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: might ave found somethin
[11:31] <sameepreturns> lol yeah I did
[11:31] <Zlobi> sameepreturns: I am beginner also, stop excusing :P
[11:31] <NET||abuse> hmm, trying to update an old server from dapper to hardy here,, following the steps here http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/03/dapper-to-hardy-direct-server-upgrade-works/
[11:31] <indus> ActionParsnip1: hello, so how does one know if the hardware gpu decode libs are being used
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: you can regenerate one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=880108
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> indus: no idea duder
[11:31] <hassanakevazir> indus, I used to be able to play 1080 videos without hickups about 6 months ago. I must be doing something wrong, but I don't know what anymore
[11:32] <Zlobi> Hello again, new small issue, googled even yesterday when happened for shoutcast. cupsd is on 8000. How to move cupsd to another port, no such option in cupsd.conf Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop
[11:32] <indus> hassanakevazir: you are not mentioning what symptoms
[11:32] <NET||abuse> i'm getting an error 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> Gustava: i'd do it in liveCD so the partitions arent mounted
[11:32] <indus> also, 1080p also runs fine with cpu decode , all this gpu decode is just marketing crap
[11:32] <Gustava> ActionParsnip1: Thanks - I'll look into it, and take your adv re:live CD - cheers
[11:32] <indus> why did i pay money for a dual core if it wont do its work
[11:33] <hassanakevazir> indus, basically 1080 videos framedrop more than they do when played back without vdpau selected as -vo device on mplayer.
[11:33] <sameepreturns> how do I check if I have the correct drivers?
[11:33] <indus> i have a bad laptop with amd x2 and it plays fine with 1080 p
[11:33] <indus> sameepreturns: what is output of lshw -C sound
[11:34] <hassanakevazir> indus, my CPU can't handle 1080. but my GPU used the do it
[11:34] <indus> hassanakevazir: so is this only wth some movies or all?
[11:34] <SwedeMike> indus: I have 1080p video that uses 60% of all CPUs on a Q6600, and that with coreavc. GPU offload is real and definitely to be preferred. I play 1080p(everything) on NVIDIA ION.
[11:35] <Zlobi> Hello again, new small issue, googled even yesterday when happened for shoutcast. cupsd is on 8000. How to move cupsd to another port, no such option in cupsd.conf Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop
[11:35] <Hald> ActionParsnip1: Yes, It workt!
[11:35] <indus> SwedeMike: so its good that cpu is being used 60 %
[11:35] <hassanakevazir> indus, nope everything, even stuff I had watched before and knew worked ok with vdpau.
[11:35] <indus> what else do we buy them for
[11:35] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: good lad
[11:35] <hassanakevazir> So anyone know any repositories for vdpau support?
[11:35] <tnm> hez i have a problem. i cannot change ubuntu 9.10 resolution to bigger then 800x600 in virtual PC application. i tried to change xorg.conf, but with no success. rught now i am running linux in safe mode
[11:35] <indus> it should be used 100 % or what a waste of money
[11:35] <Hald> ActionParsnip1: The weird thing is that ubuntu now says there is a nother driver that I can install
[11:35] <sameepreturns> indus, im'ed you the output
[11:36] <TheSarge> Can I use something like dist-upgrade to go from netbook remix to the regular release or karmic?
[11:36] <Zlobi> Hald: It is updated with new info :P
[11:36] <SwedeMike> indus: I prefer to use 30% CPU of a puny 1.6GHz atom than to use 60% of a 130W TDP quad core CPU.
[11:36] <Hald> Now I just have to get the OO 3.0 installed
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: dont bother, if its working leave it alone
[11:36] <TheSarge> I am using a 1.6Ghz Atom it is plenty for me
[11:36] <Zlobi> Hald: OO 3.1, if the same
[11:37] <Zlobi> New version out
[11:37] <Hald> oh, great
[11:37] <indus> SwedeMike: thats a bug with the player , i use totem with single core p4 and the HD plays fine
[11:37] <TheSarge> So can anyone tell me howto switch from UNR to the normal Gnome desktop?
[11:37] <Hald> I have some problems installing it tho. It only finds 2.x
[11:37] <TheSarge> Is it just a session switch?
[11:37] <indus> SwedeMike: but anyways, :)
[11:37] <SwedeMike> indus: no, it depends on the HD content. Some 1080p24 bitrates play fine, others do not.
[11:37] <Hald> ActionParsnip1: I think I will. Thanks for helping me. This have been very frustraiting. Thank you again
[11:37] <indus> SwedeMike: yes its linux fault really,
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> Hald: np bro
[11:38] <SwedeMike> indus: no.
[11:38] <indus> SwedeMike: the h 264 codecs are not good enough
[11:38] <SwedeMike> indus: you have no idea what you're talking about.
[11:38] <Zlobi> TheSarge: Isn't this a google one? Mune cups problem occuping 8000 prt is more serious :P
[11:38] <indus> SwedeMike: yes, its documented its not clear
[11:38] <indus> SwedeMike: ill give you an expert link
[11:38] <TheSarge> Zlobi, ?
[11:39] <Zlobi> TheSarge: imo you can find answer on google
[11:39] <Zlobi> Better than we can provide
[11:39] <TheSarge> If using UNR can I just do apt-get install gnome and switch the session type?
[11:39] <Zlobi> tried?
[11:39] <indus> SwedeMike: do you know, flash 10.1 doesnt do gpu decode on linux yet?
[11:40] <TheSarge> Zlobi, I have looked, why else would I be asking in the official support channel?
[11:40] <SwedeMike> indus: please stop trying to talk to me.
[11:40] <Zlobi> TheSarge:  well, sry, most people just still ask...
[11:40] <bazhang> TheSarge, ubuntu-desktop package does not do it?
[11:40] <indus> lol
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> SwedeMike: can just ignore
[11:40] <indus> will enlighten you a little
[11:40] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: i dont
[11:41] <indus> how rude are people here really
[11:41] <imran> #drupal
[11:41] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: i dont really understand why mitter was cut from karmic
[11:41] <bazhang> !attitude | indus
[11:41] <TheSarge> bazhang, I havent tried... is that what you would reccomend? Cause I do not like netbook remix.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> linduxed: i don't use it
[11:41] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: but now i have it so thx for the help
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> !info mitter jaunty
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> linduxed: its not in jaunty either
[11:41] <bazhang> TheSarge, let me check the forums
[11:42] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: hmmm, i might have gotten it from a deb there too then, i was quite sure i installed it from the repos....
[11:42] <indus> bazhang: why is that factoid pointed at me?
[11:42] <TheSarge> bazhang, Thanks I will try to be more resourceful next time :(
[11:42] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> linduxed: ubottu says not. you probably debbed it ;)
[11:42] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: they should include it though, it's superior to gtwitter
[11:42] <indus> SwedeMike: Linux currently lacks a developed standard API that supports H.264 hardware video decoding says adobe so dont blame me
[11:43] <bazhang> indus, please refrain from being argumentative.
[11:43] <TheSarge> UNR doesnt even let you have a window not maximized
[11:43] <linduxed> ActionParsnip1: you can't click links in gtwitter :-(
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> linduxed: add it as a suggestion at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[11:43] <pawel_121_> hi
[11:43] <pawel_121_> why Tomboy consumes, so much memory?
[11:43] <pawel_121_> more then Firefox sometimes
[11:44] <koala6b> siema
[11:44] <TheSarge> bazhang, I just installed ubuntu-desktop lemme see if I can select it at gdm now, brb
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> pawel_121_: thats really saying something
[11:44] <pawel_121_> four notes opened and it's 60MB
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> pawel_121_: got the latest version?
[11:44] <pawel_121_> 9.10
[11:44] <imran> query how to create module using ubuntu
[11:44] <ActionParsnip1> pawel_121_: no, of tomboy
[11:44] <indus> anyone tried the new catalyst 9.12?
[11:44] <pawel_121_> I have it from Ubuntu repo
[11:44] <subitoo> when i start some apps, i often get "the audio playback device pulseaudio does not work, falling bask to hda intel", but there is no sound problem; how can i prevent that?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> pawel_121_: check if a newer version exists then if there is later, find a PPA or compile to get the new one
[11:45] <Zlobi> TheSarge: Strange, really not mentioned
[11:45] <Hald> How do I upgrade openoffice? I have added the source to http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main but now what?
[11:45] <pawel_121_> ActionParsnip ok
[11:45] <TheSarge> Zlobi, I am not sure anyone even uses UNR lol
[11:45] <ActionParsnip1> pawel_121_: the repos dont always have the latest
[11:45] <pawel_121_> ActionParsnip ok :)
[11:46] <TheSarge> Zlobi, I installed Ubuntu-desktop how can I switch to it now? Just restart?
[11:47] <Zlobi> thesarge: Yes, like he did... :)
[11:47] <Zlobi> Now...
[11:47] <Zlobi> Hello again, new small issue, googled even yesterday when happened for shoutcast. cupsd is on 8000. How to move cupsd to another port, no such option in cupsd.conf Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop
[11:47] <cyberjorge> hi, I'm trying to copy contents of mounted cdrom using "cp -var /mnt/cdrom/MyCD /install" but I get "cannot create symbolic link" error, how do I do this?
[11:47] <subitoo> is there a way to change the output sound of qsynth?
[11:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306123 thesarge
[11:48] <hanshenrik> installed ubuntu on my new laptop (with very new hardware), ubuntu cannot use my WLAN, the AMD64-version hangs (till it goes endless loop complaining about "CPU #5", its an quad-core) so ill have to use 32-bit witch cant use all the RAM, and i activated the hardware drivers suggested by "system->administration->Hardware Drivers", and ubuntu fails to start 50%++ of the time (most of the time...
[11:49] <hanshenrik> ...it just "hangs with that white icon until i pull the plug")   ideas?
[11:49] <TheSarge> Grr still doesnt work
[11:49] <Keiya> Hey, I just got around to fixing grub after installing Windows 7. It lists it as Vista (but boots fine). Can I change the label just to avoid confusion?
[11:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306123 TheSarge
[11:49] <bazhang> TheSarge, you need to use gconf-editor as in the link above
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: and 32bit can use all your ram, you just need PAE
[11:51] <arn-> Keiya: I think under the menu.lst in /boot/grub, you can change the label
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: which is enabled by default in the server kernel
[11:51] <Zlobi> hashenrik: New kernels for the WLAN, and generally for the rest...
[11:51] <cyberjorge> hi, what does "cp -var" does?
[11:51] <Zlobi> this is imo...
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: so yes, a 32bit kernel can access all your ram
[11:51] <djnvl2> Keiya, edit menu.lst @/boot/grub
[11:51] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: yes i did, and the PAE seems not to be activated
[11:51] <bigdavjoker> looking for linux tools to fix Vista boot files  I recently had to use gparted to copy partitions from a HD getting ready to fail.  I can now boot into my ubuntu partion fine but when I try and boot vista from grub it simply restarts the laptop
[11:51] <bazhang> hanshenrik, install linux-generic-pae
[11:52] <bigdavjoker> The only suggestions I've found so far from googling are to try and delete the recovary partion
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: install the server kernel
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> !info linux-generic-pae
[11:52] <Flannel> ActionParsnip1: No, not the server kernel, generic has a PAE variant now
[11:53] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: theres also something called "linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic-pae", its the kernel im running, should i try that 1 instead? :p
[11:53] <Younder> bigdavjoker, you are looking at the wrong thing.. Windows has two boot partions. If one fails the other takes it's place
[11:54] <TheSarge> bazhang, Well as the users in the thread say that option leaves you with an unusable desktop as far as icons and such go, I am considering using the method in the last post
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> Flannel: noted and awesome :D
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: i dont have more than 3Gb in all of my systems put together dude
[11:55] <bigdavjoker> Younder sorry I'm not sure I follow you
[11:55] <Younder> bigdavjoker, what loader is it looking for Vista or CP
[11:55] <Younder> XP
[11:55] <bigdavjoker> Younder what is CP?
[11:56] <Younder> XP
[11:56] <Younder> missed a key
[11:56] <bigdavjoker> Younder,  I'm using grub which sees the vista partition
[11:56] <Younder> well it sees a vista partion for xp too, but it succed in booting on my macine
[11:57] <root_> can anybody tell me the step to configure Ip multicast on ubuntu plz
[11:57] <bigdavjoker> Younder,  okay it also sees my recovery partition but won't boot it either says something about missing /boot/bcd
[11:58] <bigdavjoker> Younder, so I was guessing that maybe something in the boot files for vista partition was screwed up  but can't figure out how tot try and check or fix and I don't have a vista CD handy to try and fix the install
[11:58] <djnvl2> Hi I'm trying to  install some softwares to ubuntu using dvd repo but apt-get asks for same dvd several times.
[11:59] <Younder> bigdavjoker, that's my point Vista is fine, it is GRUB that f.... up
[11:59] <djnvl2> For each package I download I had to change dvd.
[11:59] <bigdavjoker> Younder, sorry a bit slow this morning
[11:59] <om26er> !language
[12:00] <bigdavjoker> Younder, I got  grub to start booting the vista once it flashed the windows screen with the progress bar then when blank and rebooted
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> djnvl2: i the package is on a different dvd you will need to change to the disk with the package on
[12:00] <Younder> ok so look at the grub config at /boot/grub.mnu
[12:02] <Younder> bigdavjoker, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:02] <djnvl2> ActionParsnip1, but I had to insert same dvd several times
[12:02] <dsotr> Hi all, I was upgrading jaunty to karmic through ssh
[12:02] <dsotr> I had the horrible idea to use screen, which was uninstalled during upgrade :(
[12:02] <dsotr> any1 knows if the upgrade is still running in the background?
[12:02] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: kk, bet you have never tried to play onlink (well the beta-versions anyway, the release isn't so bad :p)
[12:03] <dsotr> I can see dpkg and karmic processes running...
[12:03] <bigdavjoker> Younder, I'm using 9.10 with grub2 so no menu.lst   update-grub does find the vista partition not sure how to edit it from there
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: play onlink?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> djnvl2: submit a bug
[12:04] <jozefk> if somebody is using Cone email client, my question is: what's the way for sending a message through different SMTP servers? right now I have one which works good but don't see how to add more SMTP servers for other accounts
[12:05] <Younder> bigdavjoker, I also use 9.10 and i edit menu.lst all the time.. try 'locate menu.lst'
[12:06] <Thomas__> Hello, my bootloader grub dont work, so i want to reinstall with a Live CD Ubuntu 9.10! But i cant mount the file system with: "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnst"
[12:06] <co> test
[12:06] <noob13> why is getdeb.net down? :(
[12:07] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: its a game that's extremely RAM-needing.. (well the beta versions anyway)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: i dont game much
[12:07] <co> quit
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: frets on fire is all the gaming i ever do
[12:07] <Milos> What do I need to install in order to run compiz-check?
[12:08] <en1gm4> hi all
[12:08] <unix> hallo
[12:08] <i46614161> hello
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> Milos: run the command and you will be told
[12:08] <vicktor_421> Hello , last night something went wrong with my hard drive , i simply tried to copy some data , and when i turn my computer today its seems the hard drive has some errors , i used the Livecd and run the command "fsck -pcfv /dev/sda1" and i get the following error - ttempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length partition? any idea ?
[12:09] <creature> So. I have an encrypted /tmp on a separate partition, via dm-crypt. The way this works is that dm-crypt creates a new filesystem at boot time. But mount seems to be trying to mount it too soon – at a guess, cryptsetup is creating the device node before its finished creating a filesystem on it, so it can't be mounted when mountall tries. How can I fix this?
[12:09] <TheSarge> Okay I have the classic desktop again but no close maximize and minimize in the right hand corner?
[12:09] <pere> hi! everybody, I have some time trying to conect my ipod touch without éxit I have tryed some options... jail brake, that wasn't good, and now I see ifuse is nice option, and I enstallit but I can't make it work! somebody can please help me?!
[12:09] <djnvl2> ActionParsnip1, k. There is also problem with kpackagekit. When I'm using it to add software it says media change, but doesn't mention the dvd no or name.
[12:09] <Guest34166> is german people here
[12:09] <Milos> ActionParsnip1, it says command not found, as I found out before I came here...
[12:09] <frogzoo> vicktor_421: sounds like the drive's failing
[12:09] <creature> vicktor_421: I'd use something like cfdisk to print out the partition table to check, but 'short read' probably indicates a failing drive...
[12:09] <en1gm4> i've just upgraded to 9.10. I've a problem with audio, my input is a mix of my mic output and my audio card output, it's annoying in conversation because the other person hears his voice back, I was able to solve it in 9.04 but the interface in 9.10 is totally different, anyone knows how to solve it?
[12:10] <MarderIII> !de | Guest34166
[12:10] <vicktor_421> frogzoo: any idea what i should try in order to recover my data ?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> Milos: ok then install compizconfig-settings-manager     you will get the packages you need to run compiz, inc the tester
[12:10] <vicktor_421> creature: any idea what i should try in order to recover my data ?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> vicktor_421: restore from backup
[12:10] <Guest34166> oki
[12:10] <Milos> ActionParsnip1, cool thanks :)
[12:10] <creature> vicktor_421: If it won't mount then you're probably out of luck. Backups are the way to go, or a specialist recovery place if it's that important to you.
[12:11] <TheSarge> Any ideas on how to get the x maximize and minimize icons on all my windows?
[12:11] <djnvl2> @unix :)
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: you running compiz?
[12:11] <Guest34166> i search a batsch for automaticstart wicd ...
[12:11] <Tesssa> did as suggested earlier in comand typed sudo-apt-get ubuntu desktop tells  me a invalid option now what
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: sudo-apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <Younder> bigdavjoker, grub2 also uses menu.lst
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: no package name has a space
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: does it!?
[12:12] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, No I just switched to the classic desktop on netbook remix
[12:12] <Younder> bigdavjoker, (I had to check)
[12:12] <en1gm4> i've just upgraded to 9.10. I've a problem with audio, my input is a mix of my mic output and my audio card output, it's annoying in conversation because the other person hears his voice back, I was able to solve it in 9.04 but the interface in 9.10 is totally different, anyone knows how to solve it?
[12:12] <Tesssa> i did that as well invalid option
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: press alt+f2   type: metacity --replace     pres enter
[12:13] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, But I have updated not installed from scratch..
[12:13] <arn-> Tesssa: whant to install ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:13] <Tesssa> or so it tells me
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: thats why then
[12:13] <Tesssa> yes 9.10
[12:13] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, Anything you can add?
[12:13] <amy_> does anyone know if tomtom home is compatible with linux ubuntu?
[12:13] <zhuotuo> what???
[12:13] <zhuotuo> tomtom???
[12:13] <arn-> Tesssa: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: not sure, i use grub2 begrudginly for my single boot (bit OTT but t runs)
[12:14] <mimis> hi, how can i add the "Places" menu in my top panel?
[12:14] <Tesssa> did that told me no package foung
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> Tesssa: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, the script ran my screen blinked but still not there?
[12:14] <amy_> i have downloaded tomtom home but the main thing is that it won't install
[12:14] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, in particular what does it use insted of menu.lst
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: then you should run: compiz --replace    in a terminal
[12:14] <Younder> instead
[12:14] <pere> hi! everybody, I have some time trying to conect my ipod touch without éxit I have tryed some options... jail brake, that wasn't good, and now I see ifuse is nice option, and I enstallit but I can't make it work! somebody can please help me?!
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: /boot/grub/grub.cfg     but its generated using scripts and config files so editting it is not advised unless you absolutely have to
[12:15] <arn-> Tesssa: package not found ! try updating : sudo apt-get update
[12:15] <amy_> hello
[12:15] <arn-> Tesssa: and then search : sudo apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop
[12:15] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, Same thing?
[12:15] <amy_> anyone there to help me please
[12:15] <MarderIII> amy_: tomtom for linux or have you downloaded tomtom for <whisper> windoze?
[12:16] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, well my grub let's you edit the # comments and uses ## for real comments and the you do a update-grub
[12:16] <djnvl2> Amy_ ask the q
[12:16] <amy_> well i have downloaded Tomtom home and its an exe file on the desktop
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: yes but you ogot some text didnt you?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: some smart output?
[12:16] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, Yes but it seems to have been successful?
[12:17] <jennyfast2> Hi
[12:17] <TheSarge> No major errors
[12:17] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, It adds entries for each core it finds (in the default config)
[12:17] <MarderIII> amy_: if its a file for windows it wont install under ubuntu.. :-)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: yes but grub2's config file is generated so if yuo edit grub.cfg  the next time update-grub is ran the change wil vanish
[12:17] <johnny_> when I log off, or turn off the system, I get the message: "An unknown program is still running". What can be done to figure out what program is still running, and to get it turned off properly before shut down?
[12:17] <soreau> What is the equivalent of /etc/init.g/gdm stop in karmic?
[12:17] <amy_> how can i install it then
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: ok thats fine, you now have something you can websearch for
[12:17] <jennyfast2> I am looking for a great portable computer that can run Ubuntu. Something smaller than a netbook. I was thinking the OQO or Sony UX. Any other suggestions (Under $500)
[12:17] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, Should I restart x/gdm?
[12:17] <jennyfast2> ?
[12:17] <lstarnes> soreau: sudo service gdm stop
[12:17] <indus> !paste
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> !wine | amy_
[12:17] <Milos> Okay so I can't use desktop effects because when I ran compiz-check it says "Software rasterizer detected" Does it need a hardware rasterizer? What should I do to fix this. Drivers?
[12:17] <soreau> lstarnes: Thansks
[12:17] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, so you put the changes somewhere else.. Where?
[12:17] <Tesssa> all i keep getting is invalid option or package not found
[12:17] <mimis> how can i add the folder menu (use,music,video...) in my top panel?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> amy_: it may not be compatible with wine
[12:18] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, I have already spent many hours on goolge with this issue
[12:18] <amy_> ubottu: wine says it is compatible
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | Younder
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: have you asked in #compiz ?
[12:18] <MarderIII> amy_: you could try with wine, but its complex and not garanteed to work.
[12:18] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, No one is active there
[12:18] <arn-> Tesssa: have you modify your source.list ?
[12:18] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, already there, I was hoping you could save me some time..
[12:19] <adalal> what does 'stop: unknown instance' mean if the commmand 'sudo service networking stop' is issued?
[12:19] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, And they wouldnt know about Netbook remix and switching to classic desktop
[12:19] <Tesssa> not as far as i know
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: thats all i know
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: thats irrelevant, its a desktop and you want to run compiz. thats the key stuff
[12:20] <arn-> Tesssa: can you look into and see if the karmic/main are still here ?
[12:20] <Tesssa> i am newish to ubuntu so don't know how
[12:20] <Younder> ActionParsnip1,  It is automatically generated by /usr/sbin/update-grub using templates from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
[12:21] <arn-> Tesssa: ok, if you have installed ubuntu from the ubuntu CD i think you already have ubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <Tesssa> it wont install
[12:21] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, that's a direct quote
[12:21] <Drunken> good morning
[12:22] <Drunken> i'm having some sound issues since I installed ubuntu
[12:22] <Drunken> spdif output is not working. at all
[12:22] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: and /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib   too
[12:22] <Drunken> strangely enough it did in debian
[12:22] <Tesssa> it gets as far as 3of6 the click forward it jumps to 4of7 and leaves out the paretioner
[12:22] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: I had to edit that file to remove the --no-floppy option causing my system not to boot
[12:23] <Drunken> http://pastebin.com/m50829020
[12:23] <jennyfast2> What MID do you all recommend? I'd like something the size of a Nintendo DS or smaller?
[12:24] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, Can I just dist-upgrade to normal karmic?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: from what release?
[12:25] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, When I right click on the window in the bottom window selector panel it allows me to unmaximize then its normal with all the buttons?
[12:25] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, 9.10 Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[12:25] <TheSarge> But I don't wanna lose all the netbook optimazations?
[12:26] <hebz0rl> hello im using lighttpd under ubuntu 9.10 how can i restrict it so it can just access /var/www is there a way where i dont have to change the chmod of all files to 750?
[12:26] <en1gm4> i've just upgraded to 9.10. I've a problem with audio, my input is a mix of my mic output and my audio card output, it's annoying in conversation because the other person hears his voice back, I was able to solve it in 9.04 but the interface in 9.10 is totally different, anyone knows how to solve it?
[12:26] <Wistful> If I run runlevel command it tells me I'm in runlevel 2 although I have Xfce running, wtf?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: you already have karmic then, if you uninstall the netbook stuff you will have a regular desktop
[12:26] <kinja-sheep> en1gm4: Try padevchooser
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: the only thing the netbook remix as over the desktop is a different desktop otherwise its the same release
[12:27] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, No its not, lol it has all sorts of lil netbook gizmos
[12:28] <MASARUwota> !lol|TheSarge
[12:28] <en1gm4> kinja-sheep:  thanks, downloading
[12:28] <TheSarge> Its optimized for atom processors
[12:28] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: Ubuntu-Desktop + extra-10-packages
[12:28] <TheSarge> I will say lol all I want.
[12:28] <MASARUwota> !lol|TheSarge
[12:28] <jozefk> it seems Cone can't handle multiple SMTP accounts :( unfortunatelly
[12:29] <TheSarge> kinja-sheep, It is actually compiled for specific hardware not a generic kenel build.
[12:29] <Younder> OK, present shopping time
[12:29] <frogzoo> not time like the present
[12:29] <Younder> later..
[12:30] <four> can someone tell me? is there a way to make the top panel in gnome go away?
[12:30] <CShadowRun> four: right click on it, delete panel.
[12:30] <TheSarge> Something is making every program I start fully maximized with no close maximize or restore buttons?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: its the same release, just with some tweaks and jolts so it suits a netbook screen
[12:31] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: you mean, your window manager is screwed?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: you need to run a window manager like metacity or fluxbox
[12:31] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: Have you successfully ran MID on your Nintendo DS yet? Do you know how to put it on it there? You could always install ubuntu-minimal and install packages as you go.
[12:31] <MASARUwota> !wm|TheSarge
[12:31] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, I am running Metacity already....
[12:32] <TheSarge> I know what a WM is.
[12:32] <shane2peru> ok, I need some help recovering my encrypted data
[12:32] <shane2peru> here is what happened, my computer is died, power surge, lightning stuck close to home
[12:32] <en1gm4> kinja-sheep:  no idea how to solve it with that :O
[12:32] <TheSarge> I just need to know how to configure metacity to not maximize everything with no buttons like this
[12:32] <shane2peru> I had just rsynced my home directory to an external disk
[12:33] <TheSarge> maybe reinstalling metacity?
[12:33] <kinja-sheep> en1gm4: Look under Accessories --> Sound/Video. You'll see it there. Run it and it'll show up in notification area. Click on that and edit your input/output and stuffs.
[12:33] <shane2peru> so I open the disk and the encrypted directory seems to have been transfered, however I'm not sure how to access it?  any ideas?
[12:33] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: replace metacity with openbox =)
[12:33] <Halitech> TheSarge, are you running compiz? sounds like something compiz would do
[12:33] <TheSarge> Halitech, No
[12:33] <en1gm4> kinja-sheep: yes I'm able to run it, but not to solve my problem...
[12:34] <TheSarge> MASARUwota, I want to use Metacity
[12:34] <TheSarge> Has no one ever converted netbook remix to use classic desktop before?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: you could find the metacity config folders in ~, rename them then rerun metacity
[12:35] <shane2peru> no one knows of how to restore encrypted data?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: there used to be a switcher but it seems to be missing somewhere
[12:35] <shane2peru> !encrypted
[12:35] <kinja-sheep> en1gm4: In Sound Preferences, have you checked out Hardware tab and try different profile?
[12:35] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, Because it was broken.
[12:36] <en1gm4> kinja-sheep:  yes I tried all of them, and all input connector I have
[12:37] <CyberArch> when I do sudo service gdm stop it tells me initctl: unknown instance, why ?
[12:37] <kinja-sheep> en1gm4: What make/model?
[12:37] <TheSarge> ActionParsnip1, would I have to do that everytime I restarted?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: you can add a startup item to run it for you
[12:38] <kaizer> hi. I'm trying to run a .jar file
[12:38] <TheSarge>  I cant believe I can't just do a dist-upgrade or something
[12:38] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: sudo killall maximus
[12:38] <en1gm4> kinja-sheep: it's integrated on the motherboard... I don't know really... it was working on 9.04
[12:38] <erUSUL> CyberArch: gives the same for me. but seems to work anyway. so harmless noise it is afaics
[12:38] <kaizer> i'm supposed to set up some path
[12:38] <TheSarge> Im going to just have to do a clean install huh?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: its not a different system or OS so its not a dist-upgrade, its a simple config screwup
[12:39] <kinja-sheep> en1gm4: Check for your make/model. Hopefully there are something useful --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:39] <TheSarge> Doesn't seem simple to me
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: to many its simple, plastic surgery is simple to many surgeons but not us
[12:40] <kcj1993> is there anyway to clean out ram in ubuntu?
[12:40] <kinja-sheep> !info maximus | TheSarge (is it running?)
[12:40] <MASARUwota> kcj1993: do you mean swap space or actual RAM?
[12:40] <TheSarge> kinja-sheep, Is that the netbook desktop thing?
[12:40] <CyberArch> How do I remove a module from the linux kernel if it's in use ?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> kcj1993: sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:40] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: Yes.
[12:40] <amy_> does anyone know how to link the windows dll to wine
[12:40] <amy_> ?
[12:41] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: One of the extra ten-or-so packages.
[12:41] <MASARUwota> amy_: put them in the windows folders in wine
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> amy_: put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/WINDOWS   you will need to use winecfg to tell wine to use the dll
[12:41] <MASARUwota> ^that
[12:42] <TheSarge> kinja-sheep, Okay that removed that but it still maximizes everything so that have no close/maximize/etc?
[12:42] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: listen, your window manager, metacity, is screwed. try removing its configuration files
[12:42] <TheSarge> actually the weird desktop thing is still there gr
[12:43] <TheSarge> MASARUwota, How?
[12:43] <amy_> is that how i be able to load up or install tomtom home
[12:43] <hanshenrik> could someone with a 64-bit installtion upload their /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade somewhere?
[12:43] <holden_> hello, i need some models of webcam that work out of the box in ubuntu 9.10. thanks
[12:43] <MASARUwota> TheSarge; look for ~/.metacity or a metacity dir in ~/.config
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> amy_: check the appdb
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> amy_: it may be completely incompatible
[12:43] <TheSarge> huh?
[12:43] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: :/ like i said
[12:44] <kcj1993> I don't want to drop the cache. My system has been up for 14h and I'm only running xchat and system monitor and it's using 400mb of ram excluding cache
[12:44] <TheSarge> You don't make sense
[12:44] <TheSarge> I don't see why dist upgrade won't give me the normal setup?
[12:44] <cyberjorge> hi, how do you set the the default user directory to root dir in proftpd? I always directed to /home/user
[12:44] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: yes i do. there should be either a config file in ~/.metacity or ~/.config somewhere :/
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: try it: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:44] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: its not that hard :/
[12:45] <sunshinepants> i'm getting this when the broadcom sta module loads: lib80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
[12:45] <shane2peru> ok, following this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually  when I get the directory mounted, it is all humble jumble, letters that make no sense
[12:45] <TheSarge> MASARUwota, That isn't very specific
[12:45] <sunshinepants> and the wireless device isn't working
[12:45] <amy_> ActionParsnip1: i have checked the appdb, it says it is compatible
[12:45] <lianimator> anyone know why gnome-do uses 200% CPU on startup sometimes? (dual-core CPU) And it doesn't work.
[12:45] <MASARUwota> TheSarge:just look for it already :/ jesus christ
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> TheSarge: http://pastebin.com/m24b2e276
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> amy_: cool then read the guide below the bit saying its compatible and you will find hints
[12:46] <kcj1993> so anyone know how to clean the memory?
[12:46] <indus> kcj1993: you mean physically/
[12:46] <ikonia> kcj1993: what do you mean clean the memory ?
[12:46] <lockd> amy_, return the brick, or use virtualbox (non open source edition) with USB passthrough
[12:46] <TheSarge> MASARUwota, I HAVE BEEN
[12:46] <kcj1993> the ram not swap
[12:47] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: GOOD
[12:47] <ikonia> kcj1993: what do you mean by "clean"
[12:47] <TheSarge> MASARUwota, wow how old are you?
[12:47] <MASARUwota> TheSarge: why would you care?
[12:47] <ikonia> TheSarge: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support please try to keep to that, MASARUwota you too please
[12:47] <amy_> lockd: how do you mean?
[12:48] <kcj1993> get rid of garbage that running programs accumulate over time
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> kcj1993: did my command not work?
[12:48] <MASARUwota> kcj1993: if you kill the processes they are gone, otherwise you should look in the apps themselves
[12:48] <ikonia> kcj1993: the kernel will deal with that for you, it's called garbage collection
[12:49] <TheSarge> All I see is compiz
[12:49] <TheSarge> I nuked the compiz configs and its still doing it
[12:49] <TheSarge> I did a metacity --replace though so I should be using metacity
[12:50] <lockd> amy_, it's not detected as a USB mass storage device, though?
[12:50] <TheSarge> Its almost like when its maximized the buttons are hiding under the top gnome panel
[12:50] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: Any chance you're using Human Netbook Theme?
[12:50] <amy_> lockd: how do you return the brick or use virtualbox with usb passthrough
[12:50] <amy_> ?
[12:50] <TheSarge> kinja-sheep, No
[12:50] <amy_> lockd, how do you suggest me to do?
[12:51] <lockd> amy_, return the brick, means return the piece of hardware you can't use without proprietary drivers. chances are you can't do that
[12:51] <george_> were do i get the list of ubuntu bugs
[12:51] <kodomo> hi folks... I've got a keymap problem... would be glad about pointers on how to debug this:
[12:51] <lockd> amy_, as for virtualbox, you go to virtualbox.org and download their software, and install a version of windows, and HOPE it works
[12:51] <traveller> TheSarge, you said you removed the package maximus? did you also restart your X session?
[12:51] <kinja-sheep> TheSarge: "gconftool-2 -s --type bool /apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0/auto_hide false"
[12:51] <amy_> but why does wine appdb says it is compatible then?
[12:51] <TheSarge> traveller, I logged out and in?
[12:52] <kcj1993> ikonia: when?
[12:52] <kodomo> I've got a hardy machine running synergys and a koala machine running synergyc - both have the same keymab xkb configuration
[12:52] <enthdegree> Hoi, is there any way to tell what package has <somefile.so> using apt?
[12:52] <traveller> TheSarge, yes, logging out and then in
[12:52] <TheSarge> traveller, Ya I did that
[12:52] <ikonia> kcj1993: real time
[12:52] <kodomo> however, when I type my @ via synergy on the koala machine, I get an Ω (Omega) instead
[12:52] <amy_> lockd, do you mean by download the tomtom software from virtualbox.org?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: how about: sudo echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[12:53] <kcj1993> xp used less memory that this
[12:53] <dath> how can i change the ubuntu startup sound?
[12:53] <axle> why would fdisk keep giving me a unable to open /dev/sda error
[12:53] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: that's only going to be cache data, that will get cleared up in garbage collection too, but thats one way
[12:53] <TheSarge> Should I just remove the entire ubuntu-netbook-remix package?
[12:53] <kodomo> when I type the @ with the keyboard, of the respective machine, I actually do get the xkbcomp -I$HOME/.xkb ~/.xkb/keymap/xkb_map_grsch $DISPLAY
[12:53] <lockd> amy_, download the /virtualbox/ software from virtualbox.org, if you absolutely must have the tomtom software running.
[12:53] <kodomo> do get the @
[12:53] <ikonia> kcj1993: windows and ubuntu use memory in different ways, I'm confident the memory you think is in use is being used as cache
[12:53] <TheSarge> brb
[12:53] <kodomo> (mist-pasted, sorry)
[12:53] <axle> also, can 2 different linux distros on the same HD share a swap partition?
[12:54] <dath> axle: yes
[12:54] <amy_> ok but it got about 3 on there? which one do i download?
[12:54] <axle> dath: awesome
[12:54] <indus> yes they can axle
[12:54] <kcj1993> ikonia: It's not cache
[12:54] <dath> where can i change the ubuntu startup sound?
[12:54] <wsjunior> i would like to make cheese to work with kubuntu, what should i install?
[12:54] <amy_> it says virtual box binaries or virtualbox Open Source Edition (OSE)?
[12:54] <amy_> lockd?
[12:55] <ikonia> kcj1993: how do you know
[12:55] <soreau> ActionParsnip1: The answer is no, TheSarge has not asked in #compiz so I dont know why he told you no one is active there
[12:55] <TheSarge> Got it, thanks traveller!
[12:55] <wsjunior> i've already installed cheese but it crashes when i try to record something
[12:55] <darrend> enthdegree: dpkg -S <somefile.so>
[12:55] <lexsoOr> !gfx
[12:55] <enthdegree> xthankyou
[12:55] <TheSarge> soreau, Yes I did want a log?
[12:55] <lexsoOr> !glx
[12:55] <traveller> TheSarge, no worries
[12:55] <lockd> amy_, you have to get the binaries, because OSE does NOT support USB pass through
[12:55] <wsjunior> but when i use it in gnome it works normally
[12:55] <soreau> TheSarge: Someone already told you your problem which is maximus, but you did not listen
[12:55] <amy_> okm
[12:55] <lockd> amy_, and you will have to pass through devices
[12:55] <axle> anyone know why fdisk cannot open /dev/sda? im running on sdb, and i did a fuser -m to check if its in use, and its not, i dont know what else fdisk wants from me
[12:55] <kcj1993> ikonia: because the total would be 850mb
[12:55] <TheSarge> soreau, I didn't thats funny cause I did?  You will never get anywhere this way
[12:56] <amy_> lockd, do I download the one for windows hosts, OS X hosts, Linux hosts, Solaris and OpenSolaris hosts or Software Developer Kit?
[12:56] <ikonia> kcj1993: could you explain what you are seeing that worries you please
[12:57] <axle> ActionParsnip1: thanx your a genius
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> enthdegree: you can use: apt-cache search something    to search packages
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> axle: hardly, but thanks :D
[12:57] <lockd> amy_, the host is what OS you are running it on
[12:57] <wsjunior> ** (cheese:2998): WARNING **: No GConf default audio src key and alsasrc doesn't work
[12:57] <dath> where can i change the gnome login sound?
[12:57] <LjL> enthdegree: dpkg -S doesn't, but you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to do that, or the "apt-file" program
[12:57] <amy_> lockd, i am running it on ubuntu linux
[12:58] <Sacho> dath preferences-sound
[12:58] <kcj1993> ikonia: if I restart i would be seeing about 180mb in use excluding cache
[12:58] <wsxu> sas
[12:58] <enthdegree> hum. Ok, thanks. :D
[12:58] <dath> Sacho: i can only choose betwen ubuntu theme and no sound
[12:59] <ikonia> kcj1993: what are you actually seeing that worries you though
[12:59] <kcj1993> ikonia: yes why would it climb so much?
[12:59] <henry_> output handler "ob_gzhandler" conflicts with "zlib output compression" => in my webbrowser , I try to get IPplan working on Ubuntu server
[12:59] <Sacho> dath: you can change the actual sound
[12:59] <ikonia> kcj1993: WHAT are you actually seeing that worries you
[13:00] <TheSarge> soreau, Dude what are you taling about my issue was resolved long ago... nothing to do with what you were talking about. Just mind your business and troll somewhere else please.
[13:00] <dath> Sacho: i can only choose a warning sound
[13:01] <kodomo> actually, xev tells me that when I type the @ overy synergy, it receives an additional Keypress event for Level-3-Shift, then a keypress for Omega then a release for Level-3-Shift, and then a release for Q
[13:01] <kodomo> that's just plain nonsense... :(
[13:01] <Sacho> dath: I have no idea what you mean. From Desktop -> Login you can change the login sound. Just click on Default, select Custom, and select your sound
[13:01] <soreau> TheSarge: Seems you finally payed attention. Maybe next time you will listen sooner
[13:01] <ikonia> TheSarge: enough now - please stop it - soreau you too
[13:01] <TheSarge> soreau, yes I "payed" attention. haha.  So leave me alone.
[13:02] <amy_> lockd, my computer is intel, not AMD64
[13:02] <TheSarge> Wow now your being reported for descrimination.
[13:02] <kcj1993> ikonia: the high mem usage for no apparent reason
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> kcj1993: you will use ram as disk cache
[13:03] <dath> Sacho: http://i47.tinypic.com/25tdpab.png
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> kcj1993: unused ram is wasted ram
[13:03] <ikonia> kcj1993: what do you see as "hi" the kernel will manage your ram and flush what's needed when needed
[13:03] <lockd> amy_, if it's 64-bit, it's AMD64 regardless
[13:03] <ikonia> TheSarge: please make any complaint in #ubuntu-ops
[13:04] <amy_> how can i check whether it is 64 or ot
[13:04] <amy_> not*
[13:04] <lockd> amy_, but if you are running 32-bit Ubuntu, you need 32-bit packages. well the package manager will check for you
[13:04] <lockd> amy_, if it doesn't match up, you just won't easily be able to install it
[13:04] <amy_> where is the package manager?
[13:04] <ikonia> !syantpic | amy_
[13:05] <ikonia> !synaptic | amy_
[13:05] <dath> what's a good gnome app to print dvd inlays?
[13:05] <indus> amy_: try the software center also
[13:05] <amy_> k
[13:05] <indus> amy_: in main menu ,
[13:05] <ikonia> dath: scribus has worked well in the past for me
[13:05] <zikalify> hi in 10.04 i hear theyre removing GIMP so could someone suggest they rgbpaint in its place because it is basic like they said they wanted it to be
[13:05] <soreau> Sorry ikonia, I get mad for compiz being blamed for everything and people not listening even when correct suggestions are made
[13:05] <ikonia> zikalify: 10.04 discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> !lucid | zikalify
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> dath:  You mean burn lightscribe labels? or juist print paper labels?
[13:05] <oskar-> hi, on my machine (recently upgraded to karmic) the ssh daemon and the login prompt at the virtual consoles do not get up. where should i take a look?
[13:06] <Sacho> dath: can't you change the "Art" column?
[13:06] <ikonia> oskar-: what happens when you see in ?
[13:06] <SwedeMike> zikalify: questions and suggestions for 10.04 should go in #ubuntu+1
[13:06] <dath> Dr_Willis: paper inlays for front back and side in 1 piece
[13:06] <subichan> with an ubuntu live cd how is your unmounted sata hd called in dev?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> oskar-: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> dath:  oh cd 'inserts' is what ive always called them
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: sudo fdisk -l    will show you
[13:06] <dath> Sacho: no i cant
[13:06] <adante> hi guys
[13:07] <adante> is there a way to mount a smb share in such a way that if it goes down it does not bring down my entire gnome desktop environment?
[13:07] <oskar-> ActionParsnip1, ssh works, if i start it manually by "/etc/init.d/ssh start". it seems to me like a init/upstart problem. any hints?
[13:07] <kodomo> I guess nobody can help me with my keymod/synergy problem?
[13:07] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: it shows me a weird name, not the likes of hda1 and such, but i think it's the livecd... because gparted has been 'scanning all devices' for half an hour already
[13:07] <heoa> while { 1 == 1} 99 [[ setleds -D -num < /dev/tty7; sleep 3; setleds -D +num < /dev/tty7 ]]
[13:07] <dath> Dr_Willis: yes, dvd box insert
[13:07] <heoa> What is wrong?
[13:08] <pawel_121_> ActionParsnip1, I installed newer version of Tomboy - 1.0.1, but it didn't help
[13:08] <four> is there a channel on freenode where i can get help with screenlets?
[13:08] <oskar-> ikonia, i don't understand, what you mean, sorry..
[13:08] <ikonia> oskar-: when you start the vm are you saying sshd is not actually running
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: those are the block devices to use
[13:08] <ikonia> oskar-: or is it running but not accepting connections
[13:08] <jarodlau> any tutorial about smplayer play 1080p with vdpau  in 9.10?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: i think you can change udev to change the name
[13:09] <soreau> heoa: No idea what you are trying to do but maybe #bash can better assist you?
[13:09] <oskar-> ikonia, it is not running. also the "getty" processes are not running. seems like upstart is hanging somewhere
[13:09] <amy_> the vitualbox binarie have been installed
[13:09] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: it's sdf1. but in Computer i can see my sata hd windows partitions. is it the same?
[13:10] <amy_> lockd
[13:10] <heoa> soreau: to switch my led every 3 second
[13:10] <ikonia> oskar-: I've seen situations like this with other distros and vmware where the network interface on the host isn't up for the vm before the processes have a virtual nic to bind services to, is that a possability for your setup, it's common with vmware ?
[13:10] <toader> hi, how to view if my pc is 64bit or 32bit?
[13:10] <heoa> the while-loop is wrog soreau
[13:10] <amy_> but still can't seem to install tomtom home
[13:10] <ikonia> toader: boot a 64bit livecd will tell you if it's 64bit capable, if you want to know what's currently running use "uname -a" in a terminal
[13:10] <soreau> heoa: What is the 99 supposed to be for?
[13:11] <adante> hi
[13:11] <adante> how can i restart whatever it is that gets .gvfs working
[13:11] <adante> primarily i am interested in just having something that works at this stage as opposed to learning more wonderful things
[13:12] <amy_> thanks for the help from all of you
[13:12] <amy_> but still didn't work
[13:12] <oskar-> ikonia, i don't use virtualization ;)  i meant the virtual terminals tty[1-6], where a getty is prompting for a login
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: if thats how it rolls, its fine
[13:12] <ikonia> oskar-: ooh really, I thought you said it was on a virtual host, my apologies
[13:12] <NET||abuse> finally have my webserver up from dapper to hardy.. hehe
[13:12] <oskar-> thanks anyway, i must leave and will return later ;-) bye
[13:12] <ikonia> oskar-: in that case disable boot splash and watch init
[13:13] <NET||abuse> that was probably a little late in being done
[13:13] <NET||abuse> sure i've only to wait 4 months for the next lts :)
[13:13] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: i can't see my external usb hd also.. and i needed it to run ddrescue
[13:13] <heoa> soreau: 99 times, just some big numbe
[13:13] <heoa> r
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: the fdisk output should show the partition
[13:14] <soreau> heoa: Yea you have it all wrong. Ask in #bash and they should be able to set you straight
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: if not run: dmesg | tail     when you connect it
[13:14] <hanshenrik> could someone with a 64-bit installtion upload their /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade somewhere?
[13:14] <subichan> there is an fd0 with I/O errors
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: its the same as a 32bit one
[13:15] <cHarNe2> where is the rules for /etc/inputrc ? i want edit ^w where can i do that?
[13:16] <dan2> hey guys
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: i can give you my sources.list file if you want
[13:16] <dan2> I just upgraded to karmic, but now wireshark is missing an entry to run as root in my menu
[13:16] <soreau> heoa: Should look more like this:  while true; do setleds -D -num < /dev/tty7; sleep 3 && setleds -D +num < /dev/tty; done
[13:16] <dan2> I tried fussing with it with suid bits but no success
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: http://pastebin.com/f32a98566    just change lucid to your release
[13:16] <shho> oh my god
[13:16] <Drunken> spdif, has anyone got this working?
[13:17] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: are you sure there aren't like "deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic multiverse" and "deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic multiverse binary-amd64" or changes like that?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: mine doesnt say anyting about 64bit except the top line
[13:18] <filippo> ubuntu italiano
[13:18] <filippo> ???
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> !it
[13:18] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: oh, ok, thanks
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: used to have the vlc repo too but it doesnt have lucid so I removed it
[13:19] <dath> whats a good program for dvd box outside insert?
[13:19] <heoa> soreau: while true; do setleds -D +num < /dev/tty7; sleep 2; setleds -D -num < /dev/tty7; sleep 3; done
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> dath: "outside insert" can you expand that please
[13:20] <heoa> soreau: yeah, worked well.  Ortherwise, you see no blinking!
[13:22] <sameepreturns> @indus.....thanx a lot for helping me out with my sound problem....and the step by step truobleshooting guide ou provided......
[13:22] <indus> sameepreturns: :)
[13:22] <sameepreturns> atleast now I can enjoy ubuntu
[13:22] <sameepreturns> :-)
[13:22] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: you can't run 64bit packages using a 32bit kernel
[13:22] <indus> sameepreturns: all thanks to google, just drop in here for any help you need
[13:23] <sameepreturns> sure...
[13:23] <soreau> heoa: Right.. glad i could help ;)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: you ca run 32bit packages under a 54bit system though
[13:23] <indus> sameepreturns: also, you can help someone now with this issue, this works for toshiba etc
[13:23] <indus> sameepreturns: i helped someone with that once
[13:23] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: well i wanna try distro-upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit, if possible (even if wery hackish :p)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: not possible
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: you need to reinstall
[13:24] <sameepreturns> grt
[13:24] <soreau> heoa: It just wasnt working on the lappy, works on the desktop though ;)
[13:26] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: think ill download the source, try to force it to believe im 64-bit, run it in sudo, let it goto hell, then ill re-install ^.^  sounds fun
[13:27] <lexsoOr> !mac
[13:28] <sameepreturns> what is the best app for managing playlists and playing mp3s in ubuntu??
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> hanshenrik: sounds like a recipe for pain, easier to backup, reinstall then restore settins
[13:29] <airtonix> !best | sameepreturns
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> sameepreturns: amarok, banshee can do it
[13:29] <Slart> sameepreturns: some people like rythmbox.. others prefer amarok. I like quod libet
[13:30] <vonadhz> hey Dr_Willis
[13:30] <hanshenrik> ActionParsnip1: i installed ubuntu today, got nothing that i would miss if i had to re-install ubuntu right now :p
[13:31] <sameepreturns> in windows wmp works for me.....whats the  nearest "lookalike" in ubuntu
[13:32] <traveller> sameepreturns, maybe totem movie player?
[13:32] <vonadhz> hey guys is Dr_Willis online?
[13:32] <enthdegree> Hey, for some reason my conky setup keeps getting hidden behind netbook-launcher
[13:32] <sameepreturns> lets try it...
[13:32] <Slart> sameepreturns: I'm not sure if there is anything similar.. but give amarok, banshee or rythmbox a try
[13:32] <vonadhz> Is Dr_Willis online
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> sameepreturns: you can skin vlc to look the same
[13:32] <Slart> vonadhz: ask him in a pm.. stop spamming about it here
[13:32] <Slart> vonadhz: whois might have some info as well
[13:33] <kinja-sheep> vonadhz: He is in this chatroom but if he does not respond, then he is away.
[13:33] <sameepreturns> I don't seem to like vlc for amnaging playlists
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Im feeding the 1 yr old. :)
[13:33] <vonadhz> okay he blocked me
[13:33] <vonadhz> then
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> !player | sameepreturns
[13:33] <vonadhz> because
[13:34] <vonadhz> he is not online
[13:34] <FloodBot4> vonadhz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <vonadhz> he he told me to do something wrong
[13:34] <infoclog> i have installed ubuntu 9.10
[13:34] <vonadhz> and then didnt respond
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  i do have a 'real life'
[13:34] <infoclog> how can i know which linux kernel is it based on?
[13:34] <sameepreturns> ubottu: haha so many...will try em one by one
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> sameepreturns: try a few, see whichyou like, they are all free
[13:34] <erUSUL> infoclog: uname -a
[13:34] <Slart> !info linux-image-generic
[13:34] <lstarnes> infoclog: uname -r
[13:34] <infoclog> but why dont u know this?
[13:35] <Slart> vonadhz: make sense.. speak in full sentences.. stop pressing enter after every three words
[13:35] <infoclog> is 9.10 not always based on one linux kernen??
[13:35] <lstarnes> infoclog: the installed version gets upgraded regularly
[13:35] <lstarnes> *updated
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  whats the actual problem? Im typing btween spoonfulls of baby food.
[13:35] <gdiz> hey everyone, so I am trying to access a samba share that I set up on my ubuntu box.  However, I can't seem to log in as my user administrative account.  It tells me invalid username or password.  Does anyone know how I can fix that?
[13:35] <Slart> infoclog: check the line from ubottu a few lines up.. you have the version there
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: no its not, it will get updated as time passes
[13:35] <lstarnes> infoclog: and there are different configurations of the kernel available
[13:35] <Lartza_> DO all Asus netbooks run either Xandros Linux or Windows XP?
[13:36] <Slart> Lartza_: nope.. mine runs ubuntu
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  also wht this irc client i rarely notice the msg's its best to talk in here.
[13:36] <vonadhz> okay
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: karmic kernels will be 2.6.31 but the last number can change as new kernels are released
[13:36] <Lartza_> Slart: From the factory I mean...
[13:36] <vonadhz> how do i do that thing
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | Lartza_
[13:36] <vonadhz> how you message me
[13:36] <ZoltaR> hi
[13:36] <vonadhz> i dont use irc too much
[13:36] <lstarnes> vonadhz: he said your nick in the message
[13:36] <lstarnes> vonadhz: so you say his nick
[13:36] <Lartza_> ActionParsnipl: This IS ubuntu related
[13:36] <Slart> Lartza_: how is that an ubuntu question? check the asus website
[13:36] <lstarnes> vonadhz: like I am doing
[13:36] <lstarnes> also
[13:36] <lstarnes> !tab | vonadhz
[13:37] <FloodBot4> lstarnes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <infoclog> ActionParsnip1: even the kernel gets updated? i thought only the applications get updated.
[13:37] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: like this?
[13:37] <Lartza_> If it comes to taht I don't want to start messing with Xandros and replace it with Ubuntu
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: the kernel is updated as it is software like the others
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  that just shows up in bold here..  along with the normal channel messages
[13:37] <vonadhz> lstarnes: like this
[13:37] <lstarnes> vonadhz: yes
[13:37] <vonadhz> lstarnes: cool
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: you will need to reboot to use the newly installed kernel
[13:37] <subichan> for those who used ddrescue already: to rescue a partition to another partition does the second one have to be exactly of the same dimension of the first?
[13:37] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: alright thanks for helping me
[13:38] <infoclog> ActionParsnip1: A last one. what is the latest kernel that Ubuntu is supporting currently?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: it just needs enough space to hold the image dd_rescue makes
[13:38] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: Im having problems with the boot screen
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> !info linux-image
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: for karmic its <IP_ADDRESS>.29
[13:38] <erUSUL> subichan: it has to be big enough to hold the image file
[13:39] <infoclog> and for L?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> !info linux-image lucid
[13:39] <lstarnes> infoclog: L?
[13:39] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on two screens in my TwinView. Not stretched, tiled or w/e but the SAME picture on BOTH screens.. Possibla in gnome?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: lucid isnt discussed here though
[13:39] <infoclog> the reason being?
[13:40] <lstarnes> infoclog: it isn't released yet and therefore it is not fully supported
[13:40] <lstarnes> infoclog: try #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <erUSUL> infoclog: it has its own channel #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> m0ar: you can use a graphic package to stick 2 images together to make 1 large image
[13:40] <tj83_> is www.gnome-look.org down for everyone?
[13:40] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: hey you here?
[13:40] <m0ar> ActionParsnip1: No easier way?  It's possible in M$ :O
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Im in and out all day.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> infoclog: its not oficially released so i not discussed in the official channel, lucid is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[13:40] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: okay
[13:41] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: why what are you doing?
[13:41] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: busy with ?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> m0ar: doesnt matter what windows can and cannot do, its completely moot
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  feeding a 1 yr old.
[13:41] <kinja-sheep> tj83_: http://tinyurl.com/ybehljn
[13:41] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: oh wow okay
[13:41] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: son?
[13:41] <Slart> tj83_: doesn't work for me
[13:41] <m0ar> ActionParsnip1: Still, the settings doesn't exist? :)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> m0ar: i cant think of any other way
[13:41] <m0ar> ActionParsnip1: Okay, thanks
[13:41] <tj83_> m0ar, its the very nature of "twinview" if you want to be able to shift windows from screen to screen then you must have one desktop area as wide as both screens,  so yes, use gimp or other to create images the span of your desktop.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> m0ar: sure but i'd love to see someone try and get windows to do half the stuff linux can do
[13:42] <m0ar> ActionParsnip1:  ;D
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> m0ar: like I said, its moot
[13:42] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: I mean i guess I can stop asking you then if ur busy, i guess ill try and find it myself
[13:42] <m0ar> tj83_: Okay..   The thing is that they have diffrent resolutions
[13:42] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis:  where do you live? usa?
[13:42] <Lartza_> Damn it, #linux is so offtopic
[13:43] <kodomo> ok... looking at synergy debug output, it seems to be a synerby problem in koala: on the receiving side (synergyc), 2 keystroke events are received for @ press and release respectively, whereas the hardy synergy only sends one
[13:43] <Lartza_> How do you backup ENTIRE system taht it can be reinstalled if soemthign goes wrong?
[13:43] <tj83_> m0ar, eww.... i have heard of problems in that area, best of luck :( i have identical screens so i never had to dive too deep into it.
[13:43] <kodomo> so I guess this is where the bogus keypress events get introduced...
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  USA.  Its 9 am here.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> Lartza_: partimage is one way
[13:43] <Slart> !backup | Lartza_
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> !backup | Lartza_
[13:43] <Aperculum> how do I enable automatically performance mode from my processor?
[13:43] <m0ar> tj83_: Well, it's a laptop and a separate monitor D:
[13:43] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: oh cool what part? ye is 8-45 where i am
[13:44] <vonadhz> so
[13:44] <tj83_> Aperculum, i believe there is a panel icon that you can add to govern the cpu scaling
[13:45] <Lartza_> So drive image propably if I want complete backup?
[13:45] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: ?
[13:45] <filippo>  il server ubuntu in italiano
[13:45] <Aperculum> tj83_: yes but I cannot change the default and default is ondemand
[13:45] <filippo> canale
[13:45] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: i'm quoting from the manual: ddrescue -n /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb2 logfile
[13:45] <Slart> !it | filippo
[13:45] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: what state ?
[13:45] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: Note: you need to create the hdb2 partition with fdisk first. hdb2 should be of appropiate type and size.
[13:45] <filippo> grazie
[13:45] <Slart> !ot | vonadhz
[13:45] <Quan-Time> whats the command to find out what drivers my wifi card is using on wlan0 ????
[13:45] <Lartza_> Will system work for example, If i backup everything from root and put them back?
[13:46] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: what does that mean exactly?
[13:46] <Lartza_> If the partitions are ons ame places?
[13:46] <erUSUL> Quan-Time: lshw -C Network
[13:46] <vonadhz> thanks slart
[13:46] <Slart> Lartza_: you might need to fix grub too..
[13:46] <Quan-Time> erUSUL: cheers
[13:46] <Lartza_> Well yea
[13:46] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: but if you ddrescure like that you will copy the bad areas too, if you ddrescue to an image you can fsck it to possibly repair
[13:46] <Lartza_> Maybe not if the partitions are on the same blocks
[13:46] <Slart> Lartza_: not sure if uuids can change for the hard drives too.. if so you need to update fstab
[13:46] <Lartza_> WEll, but it can be done
[13:46] <Slart> Lartza_: but apart from that.. yes it should work
[13:46] <Lartza_> Drive image is easier propably though
[13:47] <tuxcrafter> hi all i need to install a package from jaunty on karamic
[13:47] <subichan> ActionParsnip1: could you make me a template command for the mode you're referring to?
[13:47] <tuxcrafter> so i can install the old tinyerp-client version
[13:47] <Slart> tuxcrafter: download the package from packages.ubuntu.com .. double click on it
[13:47] <tj83_> Aperculum, um, there is a CLI tool, cpu-freq or something similar, google, there is a method
[13:47] <tuxcrafter> but adding the jaunty repository does not work anymore
[13:47] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: id just be websearching
[13:47] <Slart> tuxcrafter: it will tell you if all the dependencies are ok
[13:49] <four> does anyone know of a channel where i can get help with screenlets?
[13:49] <tj83_> Aperculum, um, here ya go: http://madberry.org/2008/09/cpufreq-set-great-little-tool-to-change-the-frequency-scalling-of-the-cpu/
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: but something like ddrescue /devhda2 /mount/point/image.iso
[13:49] <ActionParsnip1> or similar
[13:49] <Slart> four: you can try here.. I don't know if they have a channel of their own.. perhaps check their website
[13:49] <Guest14671> how can i make a program automatic run,when i lunch fluxbox?
[13:49] <enthdegree> For some reason gnome logoff/shutdown commands won't work in openbox.The only way I can shut down is through the terminal or do a hard shutdown. (Ubuntu,Openbox wm, gnome-panel+menu applet,user switch applet.)
[13:49] <enthdegree> Help appreciated
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> enthdegree:  cant just hit the power button?
[13:49] <deus__> I'm trying to access a windows machine: smbclient -L <machine> but, I get: Connection refused (NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED), even though both machines have access to the internet via the local network, and they can ping eachother.
[13:50] <deus__> any idea's what could cause this?
[13:50] <four> Slart, well the problem is is that some of the menu items dont highlight when i mouseover them, also the buttons down show up correctly inside the menu screenlet
[13:50] <dath> how can i burn cds at slower speeds? brasero only let me burn with max speed
[13:51] <Slart> four: I can't help you with that.. but ask the channel.. include your version of ubuntu and other relevant info
[13:51] <enthdegree> Nope, I'm using openbox, haven't configged it to do anything :P
[13:51] <Guest14671> how can i make a program automatic run,when i lunch fluxbox?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip1> Guest14671: edit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[13:51] <subichan> does anybody know how big at most a logfile for ddrescue could be for a 160gb partition? could it be as big as the partition itself?
[13:52] <xae8koo> Hello
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> Guest14671: add stuff BEFORE   exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
[13:52] <xae8koo> VLC suddenly used 10 gb of ram
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  i would think a 160gb log file would be a little extreme
[13:52] <enthdegree> gnome session save returns:
[13:52] <enthdegree> ** (gnome-session-save:11496): WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[13:52] <Guest14671> ActionParsnip1, any document?
[13:52] <Slart> xae8koo: mm.. it does that for me sometimes too.. I usually just kill it
[13:52] <ActionParsnip1> Guest14671: make sure you put an ampersand (a '&' character) on the end of each line or fluxbox will NOT start
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Guest14671:  the fluxbox homepage has docs on fluxbox ibelibve
[13:52] <xae8koo> Slart: Now my computer is laggy
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> Guest14671: its just gonna say what i told you but: http://www.go2linux.org/run-programs-at-fluxbox-startup
[13:53] <simplexio> xae8koo: try if it does same again with same file and if so make bug report
[13:53] <subichan> Dr_Willis: after seeing the structure of the logfile i can't be sure anymore ..
[13:53] <Slart> dath: I can select different speeds in Brasero.. I thought it worked the same for everyone
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  pipe it to /dev/null :)
[13:53] <ActionParsnip1> Guest14671: fluxbox is hugely documented
[13:53] <eskild> I've discovered an issue with grub-pc, which dev team should I talk to?
[13:53] <Slart> xae8koo: did you really kill vlc? pkill -9 vlc ?
[13:53] <subichan> no man lol i need it
[13:53] <Slart> xae8koo: your computer is probably swapping memory like mad
[13:53] <Guest14671> ActionParsnip1, Dr_Willis,thanks:)
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  pipe it to /dev/lpr  :)
[13:54] <xae8koo> Slart: My ram and swap was full
[13:54] <eskild> disabeling UUID from grub-pc doesn't work, but it's an easy fix
[13:54] <deus__> any suggestions on why smbclint gives a connection refused when trying to access a windows machine even though they can see eachother?
[13:54] <xae8koo> I'll just shut it down and go to work
[13:54] <tuxcrafter> Slart: thanks
[13:54] <subichan> Dr_Willis: is that the printer?!
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  ages ago it was.. i think. :) old skool
[13:54] <Slart> xae8koo: oh.. so ubuntu started to kill stuff on its own? I would reboot if I was you
[13:54] <subichan> is it possible to mount images?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip1> deus__: is the account on the windows system too, with the same password?
[13:54] <Slart> !mountiso | subichan
[13:55] <ivan84> hola
[13:55] <dath> Slart: it only shows "max" and 32x but i need 8x otherwise my dvd player cant read the disks
[13:55] <eskild> I've discovered an issue with grub-pc, which dev team should I talk to?
[13:55] <subichan> it's a partition image..
[13:55] <ivan84> alguien me podria echar una mano sobre redes wifi, voy perdidisimo
[13:55] <ivan84> hola?? alguien amableeee
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> deus__:  ive found winows tobe a real pain at times. :( been fighting 1 laptop for 3 weeks getting shares working withit.. Other laptop worked fine.
[13:55] <sandman> Any reason why I wouldn't be able to log into SSH @ an Ubuntu server?
[13:55] <ikonia> eskild: grub-pc ?
[13:55] <toader> hi, i have some files stored on several computers, if some files have been update, how to synchronize with them among these computers?
[13:55] <Slart> dath: hmm.. odd.. perhaps it's a driver thing.. not really sure how to fix it
[13:55] <sandman> Immediately after install?
[13:55] <eskild> grub2
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> sandman:  ssh is installed?
[13:55] <eskild> under 9.10
[13:55] <IdleOne> !es | ivan84
[13:55] <ikonia> sandman: ssh not running, no accoumt, firewall, no-authenication ? tons
[13:55] <sandman> yeah
[13:55] <sandman> default install
[13:56] <Slart> sandman: I don't think ssh is enabled by default
[13:56] <sandman> Just hit enter through all the prompts
[13:56] <ivan84> #ubuntu-es
[13:56] <ikonia> sandman: have you installed sshd ?
[13:56] <Slart> sandman: I'm not even sure if it's installed
[13:56] <eskild> ikonia: do you know who I should talk to?
[13:56] <ikonia> eskild: what's the problem ?
[13:56] <sandman> Okay, it's installed.
[13:56] <sandman> Still cannot connect in.
[13:57] <ikonia> sandman: is it running ?
[13:57] <subichan> does ddrescue do iso images?
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> ssh is definatly NOT enabled by default
[13:57] <eskild> ikonia: disabeling uuid's from /etc/default/grub can't work because /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib ignores it
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> ddrescue can try to recover a dvd to a dvd.iso yes.
[13:57] <lstarnes> Dr_Willis: I think the server edition would have it enabled
[13:57] <ikonia> eskild: the grub2 package on launchpad
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> lstarnes:  Not sure on that really.
[13:58] <ikonia> eskild: under the ubuntu project
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: sure does
[13:58] <subichan> so i'll rescue a partition to an iso. i hope it works
[13:59] <lexsoOr> !mocp
[13:59] <Slart> lstarnes: ssh enabled by default? that sounds like.. living on the edge =)
[13:59] <subichan> something like ddrescue /dev/sda5 image.iso
[13:59] <subichan> ok wish me good things
[14:00] <ivan84> como entrar al canal ubuntu-es????
[14:01] <ivan84> #ubuntu-es
[14:01] <indus> !es
[14:01] <lstarnes> ivan84: type /join #ubuntu-es
[14:01] <ivan84> type /join #ubuntu-es
[14:01] <dath> Slart: what should i do now? i dont want to reboot every time to burn a cd
[14:01] <indus> ivan84: /join #ubuntu-es
[14:02] <indus> ivan84: just click on #ubuntu-es
[14:03] <eskild> ikonia: Thanks
[14:03] <ikonia> eskild: good spot
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> subichan: assuming the pwd is the location for te iso file
[14:05] <dath> can anyone tell me why brasero doesnt allow selection of lower burn speeds?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> dath:  the optical drive may not support the lower speeds
[14:06] <dath> Dr_Willis: it works in nero
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> dath:  no idea then. go use nero i guess.
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> or try k3b or the cli tools
[14:06] <dath> time to unpack that nero linux 4 i think
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> or some of the other burning tools
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> last i saw nero 4 linux - it was pathic
[14:06] <Dday> i just went from 9.04 to 9.10 and my sound no longer works, anyone know what to do?
[14:07] <indus> Dday: need to give output of some commands
[14:07] <indus> Dday: lspci -vv
[14:07] <indus> !paste | Dday
[14:07] <grawity> dath: GNOME apps tend to stay within the limits of "usable by average desktop PC user", so they might be missing some features. As for reading speed, I don't see why wouldn't you want to use the fastest.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> !burning | dath
[14:07] <Milos> Is Ubuntu supposed to fart when it shuts down?
[14:07] <sandman> Is it possible to take an ISO install image, and extract the ISO image to a HDD?
[14:07] <sandman> And install from the HDD?
[14:08] <indus> sandman: no
[14:08] <dath> grawity: im talking about burning speed
[14:08] <indus> sandman: but i have read somewhere it can be done
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> sandman: you can put the iso on the disk, then tell grub2 to fireup the iso file
[14:08] <dath> my dvd player doesnt play movies burnt faster than 8x
[14:08] <indus> sandman: unless someone else here says how to, i would say answer is no
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> dath: slower burns are better anyway
[14:08] <Dday> indus http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2d175181
[14:10] <dalfz> what tool can I use to shrink (reencode) a video DVD down to DVDR size?
[14:10] <person> I understand that in Linux, an application ran as a normal user when exploited won't give root-level access. But is this a bit beside the point if all your important files are in your home directory?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> !info k9copy | dalfz
[14:10] <indus> Dday: give me complete model number of laptop
[14:10] <Dday> im on a pc indus
[14:10] <dalfz> Dr_Willis, thanks checking that
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> dalfz:  there maybe others.. but i never use them.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> dalfz: or devede
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> !info devede | dalfz
[14:11] <indus> Dday: aah oops sorry
[14:12] <indus> Dday: asus ?
[14:12] <dalfz> thanks ActionParsnip1
[14:12] <Dday> custom built pc
[14:12] <Dday> you want mobo model indus?
[14:12] <indus> Dday: ya
[14:13] <Dday> Is there a command to check it?
[14:13] <gdiz> hello all, I am trying to connect to a samba share on an ubuntu box.  When I try to log on as a valid username and password, it tells me that it is invalid.  Am I doing something wrong?  Does it matter that I am already logged in as that name?
[14:13] <ikonia> gdiz: what are you using for a username/password database, tdbm or ldap, or what ?
[14:14] <ikonia> gdiz: (on the samba server I mean)
[14:14] <gdb> gdiz: You'll need to set up the passwords for the users you want to grant access using smbpasswd.
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  you did give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[14:14] <indus> Dday: aah no nvm
[14:15] <indus> Dday: ok what does aplay - l say
[14:15] <pasjr> Hello, I was wondering if an?yone can tell me why in 9.10 I can connect to my network but unable to transmit or receive with my N- wireless usb stick
[14:15] <Dday> nothing indus
[14:15] <arubaguy> Is there a tool that will create a bootable USB stick from a linux iso in windows?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> Dday: sudo -s; lshw | less
[14:16] <MarderIII> arubaguy: unetbootin
[14:16] <SwedeMike> arubaguy: yes, unetbootin
[14:16] <pasjr> arubaguy yes there is, in ubuntu you make a usb boot of the live cd
[14:16] <arubaguy> thats for windows too?
[14:16] <arubaguy> no i need a windows tool
[14:16] <MarderIII> arubaguy: yes
[14:16] <SwedeMike> arubaguy: yes, it's for windows.
[14:16] <arubaguy> k
[14:16] <ActionParsnip1> Dday: check the core section, you'll see the motherboard make and model
[14:17] <Dday> actionparsnip it just went into root
[14:17] <gdiz> ikonia, I'm sorry,  I am not sure I follow.  I am trying to log on via my macbook pro so whatever the standard protocol would be on that.  Forgive my ignorance.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> Dday: give it a sec
[14:17] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[14:18] <gdiz> gdb or Dr_Willis, is that what is established via the shares-admin gui?
[14:18] <pasjr> Who is a networking guru?
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  i always do it by the command line.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip1> Dday: the top of the lshw output will detail the motherboard
[14:18] <Dr_Willis> pasjr:  itss best to just ask the actual question.
[14:18] <fgiasson> Hi everybody. Is it normal that each time I run "apt-get upgrade" libc6.so.6 get fucked-up and result in an un-usable instance? (always getting errors such as "ls: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short" for any command that uses the lib)?
[14:18] <fgiasson> libc.so.6 sorry
[14:18] <ikonia> fgiasson: control your language
[14:19] <ikonia> fgiasson: if you can't report a problem without swearing - don't report it
[14:19] <pasjr> I can connect to the internet in 9.10 with my wireless N- usb, however unable to transmit or receive.  Why?
[14:19] <gdb> ikonia: relax
[14:19] <ikonia> fgiasson: if libc.so is having a problem after an update I suggest either a.) you're not using official ubuntu repositories b.) you're not using ubuntu c.) you have a hardware problem
[14:20] <ikonia> gdb: no - the channels policy is no swearing
[14:20] <kinja-sheep> gdb: You relax.
[14:20] <fgiasson> ikonia: sorry, didn't mean to be swearing; maybe the F word doesn't have the same impact the way I thought I was saying it and the way native English people listen at it ;) sorry about that)
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> libc.so i dont think would be getting updated that often.
[14:20] <gdb> I totally get that, but people are human and it's *ok* to let it slide once.
[14:20] <ikonia> fgiasson: I'm native english
[14:20] <ikonia> gdb: I did let it slide, I asked him to stop
[14:21] <gdb> No, you spent more time telling him to stop swearing than you devoted to an answer.  Something like "woah, no need for the f word, but let me help you with your issue..." is more apropos.
[14:21] <fgiasson> ikonia: let me check which repository I am using. In fact, it is a EC2 instance, so I don't think it could apply to (c) except if they have real issues
[14:21] <fgiasson> so will check (a) and (b)
[14:21] <gdiz> Dr_Willis, so doing it through the command line, sudo smbpasswd -a myusername  ... does that just give access to myusername for smb or do I actually need to include a password too
[14:21] <ikonia> fgiasson: if libc had a fatal problem like that it would have long been noticed, so I can only suggest the place you're getting it from is not an official build or a hardware problem
[14:21] <ikonia> gdiz: I've responded with detailed assistance to him,
[14:21] <fgiasson> yup, maybe it is the problem :|; will tell you in a second
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  it will ask for a password to use. I alw2ays use the same password as the users login pass.
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  theres proberly ways to automate it. but i never bother
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  i just have a 4 user home lan. :)
[14:22] <gdiz> Dr_Willis, ikonia I'll give that a try
[14:23] <ikonia> gdiz: do you have a large number of people/clients using this ?
[14:23] <gdb> He said he has 4 users.
[14:23] <ikonia> gdb: ahhh sorry I thought it was you who where having the problem
[14:23] <Dday> ActionParsnip1, http://pastebin.com/m2192586e
[14:23] <fgiasson> ikonia: will have to create another instance, so will know in 5 mins
[14:23] <ikonia> fgiasson: no problem
[14:23] <gdb> No worries. :-)
[14:23] <pasjr> :(
[14:23] <kapi> pl
[14:24] <vonadhz> Hey
[14:24] <vonadhz> What does suse mean?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> Dday: ok run: lshw | less     then wait a bit
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | vonadhz:
[14:24] <ikonia> vonadhz: that's an alternative distro - try #suse
[14:24] <gdb> vonadhz: I don't think it actually means anything.
[14:24] <kapi> join ##ubucentrum.net
[14:24] <vonadhz> oh alright
[14:25] <saritor> is there a way to mark a package as one you dont want to install with apt-get even if a meta package would install it?
[14:25] <vonadhz> so will this work on ubuntu 9.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208855?
[14:25] <gdb> saritor: Yes, through apt pinning the details of which are documented somewhere (and not in my head).  But that may get you pointed in the right direction.
[14:25] <ikonia> vonadhz: I'd recommend against tryig it
[14:26] <ikonia> vonadhz: that's putting grub 1 back in place
[14:26] <saritor> gdb: thanks
[14:26] <gdb> Of course!
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> gdb: it does
[14:26] <vonadhz> ikonia: really?
[14:26] <Dday> ActionParsnip1, P5LD2-SE from ASUStek computers inc
[14:26] <ikonia> vonadhz: yes
[14:26] <vonadhz> ikonia: i though it replaces it with gfx boot
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  given that the date on that  thread is 2006 - i wouldent try it
[14:26] <vonadhz> okay thanks guys
[14:26] <ikonia> vonadhz: which is built on grub1
[14:26] <vonadhz> you guys have synaptic right
[14:27] <ikonia> yes
[14:27] <vonadhz> if you open it
[14:27] <AZDiablo> hello
[14:27] <vonadhz> search
[14:27] <vonadhz> gfxboot
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> gdb: SuSE, pronounced soo'-suh, comes from the German acronym, "Software und Systementwicklung (Software and System Development
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  or just do a apt-cache search gfxboot   :)
[14:27] <gdb> ActionParsnip1: Ah!  I never knew that!  That's something I'll take note and try to remember. ;-)
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> gdb: fairly useless info
[14:28] <Lartza_> vonadhz: What's the problem?
[14:28] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: lol i dont know what that is
[14:28] <vonadhz> im a noob
[14:28] <vonadhz> recently started
[14:28] <AZDiablo> i downloaded the teamspeak 3 server software. how do i start the program in the terminal?
[14:28] <ikonia> vonadhz: I advise you not to use it
[14:28] <ikonia> AZDiablo: read the documentation on it
[14:28] <gdiz> ikonia, no I don't.  But I tried logging on as my username and it wouldn't let me.  So, I specified a new username and gave smb permission, but whenever I tried to turn off the computer while connected to the smb share, it said another user was logged on.  so, I needed to figure out how to log on as the same user logged on to ubuntu box, and that did the trick right there
[14:28] <vonadhz> Dr_Willis: okay but the one in synaptic is the same right?
[14:28] <vonadhz> sorry
[14:28] <vonadhz> wrong person
[14:29] <vonadhz> ikonia: so its the same thing right?
[14:29] <HardDrive> How can i use NTFS as the defualt fs?
[14:29] <Dday> i upgraded from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and the sound no longer works, anyone know what to do?
[14:29] <ikonia> vonadhz: it's the same package as listed in that forum post
[14:29] <vonadhz> ikonia: xept it says the most recent version is for karmic
[14:29] <ikonia> HardDrive: whoaaa not advisable
[14:29] <HardDrive> WHy not?
[14:29] <Lartza_> HardDrive: THis is THE WAY: DON'T
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  apt-cache and synaptic and the other apt tools all access the same stuff.
[14:29] <pasjr> go to admin-aut and setup permission to use
[14:29] <ikonia> HardDrive: NTFS support is not %100 relible
[14:29] <vonadhz> ikonia: karmic wasnt around in 2006 though
[14:29] <HardDrive> How so?
[14:29] <ikonia> vonadhz: so ?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> HardDrive: ntfs can't hold the linu permissions needed
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> HardDrive:  its not even doable..  so dont try.
[14:29] <HardDrive> NTFS is journalled
[14:29] <vonadhz> ikonia: so its just a newer version correct?
[14:29] <Lartza_> HardDrive: ...
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> HardDrive:  so its journlled... so what.
[14:29] <ikonia> HardDrive: as in it's not %100 stable
[14:30] <pasjr> Dday 9.10 gives me wireless problems, I rolled back to 9.04
[14:30] <Lartza_> HardDrive can I talk to you in private?
[14:30] <ikonia> HardDrive: your using a close MS file system on linux, not practicle
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> HardDrive:  so is ext3/4 and proberly other filesystems.
[14:30] <vonadhz> ikonia: does it replace grub 2 with gfxboot or with grub1?
[14:30] <scunizi> vonadhz: you're entering a mine field.. if you're that new it's probalby not best that you start replacing or messing with grub.. unless you really like breaking things and reinstalling
[14:30] <ikonia> vonadhz: grub 1
[14:30] <trijntje> Hi all, in Karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing. Any pointers on how to fix this?
[14:30] <HardDrive> Lartza_, sure
[14:30] <vonadhz> ehh im exploring
[14:30] <gdb> HardDrive: NTFS does not support (easily) Unix sytem permissions, it does not support extended attributes, it is closed source (owned by Microsoft) and the implementation in Linux is reversed engineered.  It is not designed with Unix security in mind.  It is useful for removable media that is shared with Windows machines, it is not useful for use as a primary fs type for Linux (or any Unix).
[14:31] <pasjr> trijntje: turn down the sound levels in pulse
[14:31] <Johnaha> with python, how do i write code, save it as .py then use that to convert into an exutable
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  if the machine just sits for a while (or no sound plays for a while) does it crack/pop  right befor it plays a sound?
[14:31] <vonadhz> ikonia: coudlnt u just install grub 1 then?
[14:31] <trijntje> Dr_Willis, yes
[14:31] <vonadhz> ikonia; wats the difference or advantage of getting gfx over grub1?
[14:31] <ikonia> vonadhz: if you really wanted to, but it wouldn't have the gxfboot patches
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  thats a sign of the 'power saveing' feature of the sound card/settings causing issues.
[14:31] <trijntje> pasjr, whats pulse?
[14:31] <ikonia> vonadhz: I strongly suggest reading about something before installing it, or at least knowing what grub-gfxboot does
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  theres some config file ya can edit to 'fix' that
[14:31] <gdb> I can't remember if Ubuntu is supporting NTFS through a FUSE driver or not.  Does anyone else know off the top of their head?
[14:31] <HardDrive> pulse is your heartbeat
[14:31] <grawity> gdb: NTFS supports alternate streams, and ntfs-3g can use them as xattrs.  NTFS also supports detailed ACLs, and ntfs-3g can use them for Unix permissions.
[14:31] <thiebaude> !pulse
[14:32] <vonadhz> ikonia: thats why Im asking you guys
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> gdb:  ntfs-3g uses fuse i recall.
[14:32] <grawity> gdb: And yeah, Ubuntu comes with the FUSE-based ntfs-3g driver.
[14:32] <vonadhz> ikonia: I couldnt really find a detailed desciption
[14:32] <erUSUL> Johnaha: put « #!/usr/bin/env python  » as the first line of the program give it executable permissions
[14:32] <ikonia> vonadhz: don't worry about things like grub
[14:32] <pasjr> pulse audio, it is in 9.10 look in media-pulse device manager
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> vonadhz:  you may want to learn some more linux basics befor worrying about eyecandy
[14:32] <HardDrive> NTFS supports shadow copys
[14:32] <ikonia> vonadhz: then why do you want to install it if you don't know what it is
[14:32] <ikonia> HardDrive: not on linux it doesn't
[14:32] <ikonia> HardDrive: it does not have full support on ubuntu
[14:32] <HardDrive> of course it dosent
[14:32] <vonadhz> ikonia: im not installing it
[14:32] <HardDrive> what about HFS+ support?
[14:32] <HardDrive> I have an external HFS+ drive for my imac
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> !hfs
[14:32] <ikonia> HardDrive: limited
[14:33] <trijntje> Dr_Willis, I already deactivated the powersafe option in alsa-base.conf
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> trijntje:  im out of ideas then.
[14:33] <gdb> grawity: I was using it recently to copy some data from an IRIX system to an external disk using NTFS attached to an Ubuntu machine but I didn't look into the details.  I was just glad it worked and I didn't have to reformat the external drive.
[14:33] <vonadhz> ikonia: im just a fan off all the custimization so ive been wanting to change the grub boot screen and what not
[14:33] <HardDrive> why is HFS+ closed too like NTFS?
[14:33] <ikonia> vonadhz: it adds a graphics option
[14:33] <Segaja> hi, was grip removed from the repos of ubuntu 9.10?
[14:33] <dorne> how can you unfreeze your usb mouse and keyboard? The system itself is running.
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> HardDrive:  yes i belive it is.
[14:33] <comawhite_> HardDisk: yes HFS+ is clsoed
[14:33] <comawhite_> closed*
[14:33] <vonadhz> ikonia: and have had a lot of problems, Dr_wilis tried to help me but that didnt work
[14:33] <lstarnes> !info grip karmic | Segaja
[14:33] <HardDrive> What is the point of keeping 2 filesystems closed?
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> Segaja:  yes i belive it was
[14:33] <vonadhz> ikonia: Ill keep researching
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> HardDrive:  go ask MS and apple.
[14:33] <trijntje> Dr_Willis, np, thanks for your time
[14:33] <comawhite_> HardDrive: ask them
[14:33] <Johnaha> erusul, wh will that do?
[14:33] <subichan> scuse me
[14:33] <Segaja> hm, so where do i find a deb file for that?
[14:33] <subichan> what happened to gddrescue in synaptic? i can't find it
[14:33] <ikonia> HardDrive: that's nothing to do with ubuntu so offtopic here
[14:34] <pasjr> trijntje, it has nothing to do with alsa, you some where turned on pulse audio, either turn it off or remove it and that should fix your sound issue
[14:34] <comawhite_> you can read/write to HFS+ no problems just can only do it with root
[14:34] <Segaja> or does someone know a good other tool like grip
[14:34] <fgiasson> ikonia: hummm, using http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy, seems good, no?
[14:34] <gdb> HardDrive: Proprietry software model.  You purchase a license to use the software, but are not granted access to source code nor are you granted distribution rights.
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> HardDrive: why is any fs closed....ask the developers
[14:34] <grawity> gdb: It was in ntfs-3g 'Advanced' for quite a while. Might not be in Ubuntu then. But I have tested both.
[14:34] <fgiasson> (hardy, hardy-update, etc)
[14:34] <ikonia> fgiasson: that should be spot on
[14:34] <scunizi> HardDrive: closed files systems = "We don't want anyone playing in our sandbox"
[14:34] <erUSUL> Johnaha: it will run « python yourscript »
[14:34] <subitoo> hello, i have a midi keyboard that i connect through USB to my computer; then in order to hear something, i need to start qsynth, and i need to connect the output of the keyboard to the input of qsynth using qjackctl, but then i have a problem using gtick at the same time, because whenever qsynth is on, i get "Please check is speficied sound device and sample file are accessible" when i try to start the metronome
[14:34] <gdiz> could someone tell me how to set up printer sharing...preferably bonjour printing but windows printing on ubuntu would work too...I've been reading that 9.10 has been having some trouble, but I wanted see if anyone had a workaround for it
[14:34] <Johnaha> k
[14:34] <HardDrive> if ntfs is closed up how did NTFS-3g figure it out without running into legal trouble?
[14:34] <subichan> i have gutsy gibbon and when i try installing it says i should enable universe but i did enable it and through synaptic i still can't find it
[14:35] <subichan> i'm talking of gddrescue
[14:35] <trijntje> pasjr, where can I do that? I just did a clean install of Karmic and then I got this issue
[14:35] <fgiasson> ikonia: could it be because some software that shouldn't are running?
[14:35] <subichan> gnu's ddrescue, antonio diaz's
[14:35] <lstarnes> HardDrive: reverse engineering file formats and filesystem formats isn't illegal
[14:35] <ikonia> HardDrive: it's reversed engineered, it's not NTFS
[14:35] <gdb> HardDrive: blackbox reverese engineering (ie; not decompiling) is perfectly legal.
[14:35] <comawhite_> NTFS sucks anyways
[14:35] <HardDrive> o
[14:35] <Quan-Time> anyone here got kismet experience ?
[14:35] <gdb> This is how Samba implemented a Windows domain controller.
[14:35] <HardDrive> IMO NTFS is very durable
[14:35] <blinkiz> Hi. Am looking for a guide how to install my desktop karmic so it authenticates against my ldap server.  Am sure it exist easier ways in karmic. To start with, the package ldap-auth-client.
[14:35] <HardDrive> HFS+ is really that durable
[14:35] <ikonia> fgiasson: I don't see how, the only other option I can think of is that you've manually updated libc from outside the repositories, but I'm confident you'd have mentioned that
[14:36] <ikonia> HardDrive: no -ones is arguing that
[14:36] <Segaja> can i use the lenny package of grip on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[14:36] <ikonia> HardDrive: it's just not fully supported on linux
[14:36] <Johnaha> egL « #!/usr/bin/env python  »
[14:36] <Johnaha> print "hi"
[14:36] <ikonia> Segaja: no
[14:36] <HardDrive> ok
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> gdb: samba also had input from microsoft in development afaik
[14:36] <Johnaha> saves as hi.py
[14:36] <dorne> is there a way to reset the usb to get my peripherals to work  again?
[14:36] <lwb> how to add a char to the  end of line
[14:36] <HardDrive> the bottom line is ntfs and HFS+ dont have full support
[14:36] <HardDrive> thanks for the info
[14:36] <ikonia> HardDrive: correct
[14:36] <comawhite_> HardDrive: yeah the only way to fix it is with Windows crappy OS, too many hard reboots and it just fails
[14:36] <lwb> anyone?
[14:36] <pasjr> trijntje, first look in media, do you have the pule device manger?  or look in syn manager in the installed list
[14:36] <Segaja> ikonia: do you know where i can find a .deb file of grip? or do you know an other tool with the same features as grip?
[14:36] <lstarnes> HardDrive: ntfs-3g's support for ntfs is very good
[14:36] <HardDrive> can windows read linux filesystems?
[14:36] <ikonia> Segaja: no
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> Segaja:  trh the getdeb or ppa repos
[14:36] <lstarnes> HardDrive: no
[14:36] <comawhite_> HardDrive: not native
[14:36] <grawity> HardDrive: Almost.
[14:36] <ikonia> HardDrive: not very stable - but yes ext3 is supported
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> !ext3 | HardDrive
[14:37] <ikonia> HardDrive: you need 3rd party tools
[14:37] <blinkiz> Hi. Am looking for a guide how to install my desktop karmic so it authenticates against my ldap server.  Am sure it exist easier ways in karmic. To start with, the package ldap-auth-client.
[14:37] <Segaja> Dr_Willis: getdeb.net seems to be down
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> Segaja:   i dident do it...
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[14:37] <comawhite_> why does Ubuntu use ext4 its tons better than ext3
[14:37] <gdb> HardDrive: Yes, and the free alternatives, ext4, jfs, xfs, et al, are just as if not moreso.  I'd suggest giving ext3 a spin and see how it works for you. :-)  I'm not aware of the support status of ext4 in Ubuntu. (I just come here to help out, my main Linux is Debian).
[14:37] <comawhite_> doesn't*
[14:37] <fgiasson> ikonia: I did use that ubuntu (hardy) EC2 AMI: http://alestic.com/; I don't think they re-compiled libc neither
[14:37] <ikonia> comawhite_: it does
[14:37] <grawity> comawhite_: But it does.
[14:37] <HardDrive> k thanks
[14:37] <Segaja> Dr_Willis: i didn't say you did :)
[14:37] <Quan-Time> anyone here got kismet experience ? (wifi scanning tool)
[14:37] <subitoo> HardDrive: ext3 but not ext4 i think
[14:37] <HardDrive> i will soon be installing ubuntu on my main partition instead of having it in virtualbox
[14:37] <comawhite_> gdb ext4 > ext3
[14:38] <subichan> oh
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> ext4 is like 33% Better then ext3 :)
[14:38] <pasjr> vituralbox how retro
[14:38] <gdb> comawhite_: It's not generally reocommended to use ext4 in production as it's still under (reasonably) heavy development.  Fedora has made the transition but they tend to be the most technically cutting edge distribution, the early adopters.
[14:38] <comawhite_> :P
[14:38] <subichan> has the address of repositories changed form 7.10 to today?
[14:38] <HardDrive> !exfat
[14:38] <ikonia> fgiasson: I don't know for certain but you're pointing at a PPA - that PPA could include incompatible libc pacakges in it
[14:38] <grawity> pasjr: huh?
[14:38] <ikonia> !oldrelease > subichan
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> comawhite_: its default in karmic and lucid
[14:38] <ikonia> subichan: changed a long time ago when 7.10 was made eol
[14:38] <lstarnes> subichan: some mirrors may have been added or removed
[14:38] <pasjr> nothing
[14:38] <mke`> anyone knows if it's possible to emulate the mouse using my keyboard ? (using fluxbox on Lenny)
[14:38] <comawhite_> gdb: I thought Ubuntu was earlier like Fedora
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  once the release gets so old. i THink the repos get moved to some 'archive.ubuntu.com' or similery named  server
[14:38] <fgiasson> ikonia: PPA?
[14:39] <lstarnes> subichan: but 7.10 itself is no longer in the main repos
[14:39] <thiebaude> i have never had problems with ext4
[14:39] <comawhite_> same
[14:39] <ikonia> !PPA > fgiasson
[14:39] <lstarnes> !eol | subichan
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> mke`:  ive seen it done befor.. but not sure if it was a wm feature or X feature
[14:39] <trijntje> pasjr, I dont know what to look for, can you be more specific?
[14:39] <subichan> oh but then how can i download something for it?
[14:39] <fgiasson> ok thanks
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  change your sources.list
[14:39] <lstarnes> subichan: use the old-releases.ubuntu.com mirror
[14:39] <mke`> thx anyway dr_willis ;)
[14:40] <fgiasson> ikonia: thanks for these explanations, I will poke around to see if I couldn't find the issue with this PPA
[14:40] <subichan> lstarnes: i should put that in the repositories section?
[14:40] <ikonia> fgiasson: may I make a suggestion
[14:41] <pasjr> I have since remove 9.10 from my system, it to gave me a problem but with wireless.  I have forgot the location excatly with out looking at it I am sorry
[14:41] <fgiasson> ikonia: sure, go ahead
[14:41] <ikonia> fgiasson: update to ubuntus' latest updates before adding alestic repos
[14:41] <lstarnes> subichan: you should use that for all of the main ubuntu repos
[14:41] <ikonia> fgiasson: see if that causes you any problems
[14:41] <ikonia> fgiasson: then add the alestic repo and update and see if that's the breaker
[14:41] <AmokPaule> Hello, someone knows some open source alternative to flash? At best in ubuntu packet list?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> AmokPaule: gnash or swfdec
[14:41] <fgiasson> ikonia: ok will check tha
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> AmokPaule:  those wont do everything the nonfree flash does
[14:41] <gdb> AmokPaule: The main one I'm aware of.. are the ones ActionParsnip1 just said. lol
[14:41] <mke`> so how could I test if my (serial) mouse isn't dead ? can't move it in X..
[14:41] <ikonia> fgiasson: worth looking
[14:42]  * gdb is too slow at the kbd this morning!
[14:42] <AmokPaule> Ty you all :)
[14:42] <subichan> lstarnes: the problem is i don't know where i should write the new server
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> mke`:  you could go to the console and try 'sudo cat /dev/psaux' or /dev/mouse and move the thing around.
[14:42] <pasjr> I will run a 9.10 live cd later today and pull the steps for you, I will post them at http://www.Micro2GB.com
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> mke`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[14:42] <lstarnes> subichan: in /etc/apt/sources.list, replace all instances of the old server with old-releases.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <mke`> thanks .. will check it out
[14:43] <subichan> lstarnes: thanks
[14:43] <nastas> hi all
[14:43] <gdiz> has anyone ever messed with setting up a nfs share on ubuntu...I'm kind of curious what people thought vs. smb and if it is better, how to set it up
[14:44] <pasjr> Must step out for a smoke, see all later:)
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> gdiz:  for linux to linix nfs can worn muich bnetter
[14:44] <gdb> gdiz: I'd say it depends on your client.  What OS is your client using?
[14:44] <tjibbaNL> can someone help me with the gnome delays bug
[14:44] <tjibbaNL> have to wait 2 minutes before gnome is completely loaded
[14:45] <gdiz> my client is running os x 10.6
[14:45] <gdb> As Dr_Willis is suggesting, for Linux -> Windows, Samba is your answer.  For Linux -> Linux/Unix, then NFS is the way to go.
[14:45] <Vultusaur> ïðèâåò
[14:45] <blinkiz> Hi. Am looking for a guide how to install my desktop karmic so it authenticates against my ldap server.  Am sure it exist easier ways in karmic. To start with, the package ldap-auth-client.
[14:45] <gdb> Ah, I'd use Samba for that.
[14:45] <Vultusaur> Êòîíèòü ïèçäèò ïî ðóññêè
[14:45] <Vultusaur> ??
[14:45] <gdb> For Linux -> OSX, I'd go with Samba (and that's what I'm using myself).
[14:45] <lstarnes> !ru | Vultusaur
[14:45] <tjibbaNL> what is the dutch ubuntu channel?
[14:45] <isolat3dsh33p> Bash question: How to split string by using a newline?
[14:45] <Vultusaur> » lstarnes » Íå òû ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðèøü
[14:45] <subitoo> how can i use my sound for other apps when qsynth is started?
[14:46] <lstarnes> !nl | tjibbaNL
[14:46] <gdiz> gdb, so os x doesn't support nfs?
[14:46] <tjibbaNL> thnx
[14:46] <hit> yeah,samba is great!
[14:46] <Vultusaur> õàõàõàõ
[14:46] <Vultusaur> yes
[14:46] <hit> easy to set up
[14:46] <scunizi> gdiz: I'll bet it does.. it is a unix varient
[14:46] <Vultusaur> you sekas use
[14:46] <Vultusaur> you no english
[14:47] <ikonia> !ru | Vultusaur
[14:47] <Vultusaur> ee
[14:47] <Vultusaur> ok
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. with weechat and screen those utf-8 characters aint shoding up right..
[14:47] <gdb> gdiz: It does, and you can try connecting to an NFS share with command-k (Connect to Server) but I've found Samba to be more than adequate.  Mac OS X integrates into Windows networks just fine.  I've not used it as an NFS client but I also feel that Samba (for what I suspect you want to do) works out of the box with less configuration on the Ubuntu side.
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if OS-X is using samba, or if they did their own.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: it can do
[14:48] <gdiz> well ok, just out of curiousity, how do you set up an nfs share on the ubuntu side?
[14:48] <hit> not ever tryed
[14:48] <gdb> Yes, at home I use a Windows networking protocol to hook a Mac OS X machine to a Linux machine.  And I have no Windows machines at all (other than this laptop from work).  Ironic, no?
[14:49] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: OS X uses samba cups and all that stuff
[14:49] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: apple owns cups now
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  last i saw apple was sort of claming it 'invented' cups at  some of the web sites. :) sort of missinformation...
[14:50] <erUSUL> gdb: SAMBA implements CIFS unix extensions (permissions etc..) so is not a bad choice for linux to linux anymore. or so i heard
[14:50] <scunizi> erUSUL: not having touched a mac much I showed a diehard mac user http://localhost:631 to configure a difficult printer.. He'd never seen it before and was pretty amazed.. so was I that he'd never seen it. :/
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: july 2007 they bought it
[14:51] <Rewt`> which flag in the mv command will overwrite directories even if they aren't empty?
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> Right - they bought it.. but the site i saw sort of said they invented it. :) not bought it. heh
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/12/apple-buys-cups/
[14:52] <erUSUL> scunizi: well apple surely knows how to wrap things in beatifull paper ;P be it unix cups apache ldap etc...
[14:52] <sandman> Is it possible to easily upgrade to new versions of Ubuntu using aptitude dist-upgrade?
[14:52] <gdb> erUSUL: That very well could be.  The end result I was looking for on OSX was to have a shared network drive on the desktop.  I'm not sure using OSX as an NFS client will provide that (I think it will work like NFS on any other Unix).  I can't see it being a bad option for Linux -> Linux.  It's pretty seamless on OSX when under /Volumes.
[14:52] <sandman> Or must one install again from a CD/DVD?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> !upgrade | sandman
[14:53] <subichan> anybody knows if ubuntu supports "sparse writes" (as related to gddrescue)?
[14:53] <LewisDre4m> Hello, Please help me.
[14:53] <LewisDre4m> If I go into "Places" / "Network" I see a folder called "Windows Network". Inside this folder I can see all my "windows" Machines currently on my network. However If I am on my "windows" Machines I cannot see ANYTHING showing exsistance of my ubuntu machine including shares / computer NOTHING. I am so stressed trying to get this woorking is anyone there able to help?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  i was thinking that was a feature of ext4
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> subichan:  check the ext4 wiki page
[14:54] <wilhart> how do i disable a program in init.d to run in startup ?
[14:54] <wilhart> i.e sshd
[14:54] <llutz> wilhart: sudo update-rc.d -f ssh remove
[14:54] <wilhart> please?
[14:55] <yellabs> join #ubuntu-desktop
[14:55] <yellabs> hmm
[14:55] <yellabs> hehe
[14:55] <yellabs> forgot the /
[14:56] <yellabs> bey
[14:56] <subichan> cat proc/partitions says sda5 but my hd isn't scsi
[14:56] <LewisDre4m> There is no one here who can help?
[14:56] <subichan> it's actually sata.. will this hurt when trying to rescue it?
[14:56] <llutz> subichan: using libata all drives are sd now
[14:56] <subichan> ah ok
[14:56] <LewisDre4m> If I go into "Places" / "Network" I see a folder called "Windows Network". Inside this folder I can see all my "windows" Machines currently on my network. However If I am on my "windows" Machines I cannot see ANYTHING showing exsistance of my ubuntu machine including shares / computer NOTHING. I am so stressed trying to get this woorking is anyone there able to help?
[14:56] <subichan> thanks llutz
[14:56] <srv> how can i upgrade ubuntu from 9.0.4 to 9.10 using cd
[14:57] <lstarnes> srv: you need the alternate cd for an in-place upgrade
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> srv:  the alternative installer cd can worjk as a repo.
[14:57] <DJones> !upgrade | srv
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> srv: you need the alternate cd
[14:57] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: is the workgroup name used by samba the same as the onw used on the windows machines?
[14:57] <arubaguy> what's the fastest mirrow to download ubuntu from if i'm in aruba/barbados
[14:58] <LewisDre4m> lstarnes:  Let me check, where do I find out that?
[14:58] <phoenixzorn> why is Ubuntu Netbook Remix so slow on my EeePC 1000HD with 1GB of RAM and a 32GB SSD?
[14:58] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: in samba's configuration files
[14:59] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: /etc/samba/smb.conf is probably the file to look for
[14:59] <arubaguy> can wubi produce bootable LIVE usbs of ubuntu?
[15:00] <dnivra_> arubaguy: I suggest you try torrents; they are lot faster plus less pressure on the server.
[15:00] <LewisDre4m> lstarnes: I'm just checking I have Samba correctly installed. When I type Samba into "ubuntu software center" It shows SMB4K first then Samba underneith. Which one should I install or have installeD?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> phoenixzorn: the interface isn't overly fast. have you got 3d accelleration?
[15:00] <arubaguy> dnivra_: can you give me the link this machine im on is really slow
[15:00] <achadwick> phoenixzorn: does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/349314 look familiar?
[15:00] <phoenixzorn> brand new install, connected to the same wifi as this computer, drops wifi constantly, drops google talk connection, won't surf to websites of any kind, and attempted a download of irssi, and it crawled at 240B/sec.... in Windows, the same computer flies... never skipping a beat and downloading at the full 22mbps of my connection.
[15:00] <tjibbaNL> can someone look at this http://pastebin.com/m79adc0 gnome has al huge delay at startup
[15:00] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I don't know anything about the software center
[15:01] <LewisDre4m> Where did you install samba from?
[15:01] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: sudo apt-get install samba
[15:01] <phoenixzorn> achadwick, not so much... no tiling, just entirely slow...
[15:01] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I used the package managers
[15:01] <achadwick> phoenixzorn: be interesting to see if there's anything bubbling up to the top of "top" or "iotop" in a terminal. Doesn't sound much like a graphics issue.
[15:01] <Faithful> Pulse audio is an evil piece of work chewing 80% of my CPU
[15:01] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I'm using 8.04 so I don't even have the software center
[15:01] <LewisDre4m> Ubuntu software center built into linux . . . oh
[15:01] <LewisDre4m> lol
[15:01] <LewisDre4m> k let me do as you typed.
[15:01] <LewisDre4m> May I ask out of interest why you don't user 9.10?
[15:02] <Hyppy> phoenixzorn: do you see anything chewing up CPU/RAM when you run top?
[15:02] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: I like stability.
[15:02] <phoenixzorn> its not a graphics issue... it's an overall sluggishness issue, which confuses me because of how well it ran before I installed it... from the flash drive, it was just as fast as windows... as soon as I installed it, it became slow
[15:02] <subichan> ehm excuse me i've just run ddrescue and it started perfectly but after 3 secs it froze the system.. i'm using the gutsy live cd.. should i reset the computer or just wait?
[15:02] <lstarnes> LewisDre4m: and it is too much of a hassle to upgrade
[15:02] <dnivra_> arubaguy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[15:02] <phoenixzorn> lemme check... I'm on a different laptop
[15:02] <LewisDre4m> lstarnes: I see.
[15:02] <airtonix> Dr_Willis, not sure if you remember but i was asking a while ago about a tool to display the status of key and mouse buttons for purposes of screencasts. I found : http://code.google.com/p/key-mon/
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> phoenixzorn: does your wifi device need firmare?
[15:02] <srv> ActionParsnip: What is alternate cd? cant i use ubuntu 9.10 cd from ubuntu