[00:13] <mr-robot> hey
[00:13] <lasersaber> hello friend
[00:13] <mr-robot> how are you?
[00:14] <mr-robot> hay
[00:14] <lasersaber> i'm good Elliot, how have you been?
[00:14] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue mr-robot ?
[00:14] <mr-robot> ouu you know me i m fine thanks
[00:14] <lasersaber> mr-robot, join #ubuntu-offtopic for off topic chat
[00:15] <lasersaber> this a help channel support
[00:15] <lasersaber> unless you u need ubuntu help
[00:17] <mr-robot> do you know how to hack IPhone without Armitage?
[00:17] <bazhang> mr-robot, thats not topical here
[00:17] <mr-robot> I know
[00:18] <bazhang> mr-robot, so please dont ask here
[00:18] <lasersaber> mr-robot, type join #hackers
[00:18] <mr-robot> so i know now the Ip from the most peoples and i can hack you with armitage
[00:19] <MarkB2> Hello.  Might someone know how to install Ubuntu onto (into?) an Intel Joule with an attached USB hard disk drive?
[00:19] <bazhang> mr-robot, please stop asking here
[00:19] <lasersaber> mr-robot, best use ArchBlack, now leave. thanks!
[00:20] <mr-robot> i m just kidding
[00:21] <sasi> anyone from India?
[00:21] <bazhang> mr-robot, please take the chit chat to another place
[00:39] <noncom|2> I have a problem on Ubuntu -- after I install an application, it gets uninstalled by itself after some time... what could that be?
[00:40] <noncom|2> namely, I am installing Emacs 25.1.1 by instructions from the websire
[00:40] <noncom|2> *website
[00:40] <noncom|2> and it installs ok, and I can use it
[00:40] <noncom|2> after some time it disappears from the menus and "emacs does not work in bash"
[00:41] <Flannel> noncom|2: Which instructions?
[00:42] <noncom|2> Flannel: precisely these: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/09/install-gnu-emacs-25-1-in-ubuntu-16-04/
[00:42] <noncom|2> like, i do "./configure" then "make" then "checkinstall"
[00:43] <noncom|2> arfter several hours Emacs is gone
[00:43] <Flannel> noncom|2: is emacs currently "gone"?
[00:44] <noncom|2> yes, it is gone in the sense that the icon on the desktop (LXDE over RDP) changed to a generic icon (a gear) and can't start Emacs anymore, also bash "emacs" does not work, BUT
[00:44] <CodeMouse92> noncom|2: This is a massively stupid question, but you are NOT running the last instruction, "sudo dpkg -r emacs-25", right?
[00:44] <noncom|2> but emacs is running! because I did not close it from before.
[00:44] <Flannel> noncom|2: ok.
[00:44] <noncom|2> CodeMouse92: ahaha :D yeah, sure, I did not :)
[00:44] <noncom|2> but thanks for checking anyway :)
[00:44] <CodeMouse92> noncom|2: Good, just checking. :)
[00:45] <Flannel> noncom|2: ok, can you please pastebin the output of `which emacs` and `dpkg -l | grep emacs`
[00:49] <Anthaas> What is the easiest way to take the contents of a machine running Ubuntu and clone it to a VM (VirtualBox for example)
[00:49] <lucas-arg> hello im on gnome and cant make gnome use YCbCr444 colorspace in System Settings > Color i dont see any YCbCr444 option
[00:50] <noncom|2> Flannel: here it is: http://pastebin.com/MmDhmEK7
[00:50] <Flannel> noncom|2: and `which emacs`?
[00:50] <noncom|2> I must also say that I did "apt-get upgrade" some time ago, and it installed Emacs 24
[00:50] <noncom|2> which emacs does not return anything
[00:50] <Flannel> ok.
[00:50] <noncom|2> doing "emacs" in bash says "can't find emacs"
[00:51] <Flannel> noncom|2: I was looking at those instructions, and I didn't see it *installing* the deb package anywhere.  As far as I know, checkinstall creates a deb package, but doesn't install it.
[00:51] <noncom|2> hmmm
[00:51] <Flannel> noncom|2: so, try installing the deb package checkinstall created :)
[00:51] <Flannel> see if that works
[00:52] <noncom|2> but you see, after I executed it, it created a group in the "Start" menu or whatever it is called in LXDE and I was able to put the Emacs icon on the desktop
[00:52] <noncom|2> how did that work then... ?
[00:52] <StrifeTacDefuzer> Which way did the circus go
[00:53] <Flannel> noncom|2: Checkinstall does run make install, so I suppose that's what put those files there (and must not have cleaned up properly?)
[00:53] <noncom|2> soo... it did install Emacs?
[00:53] <noncom|2> or did not?
[00:53] <noncom|2> I am confused..
[00:54] <CodeMouse92> noncom|2: Flannel is saying that it probably *didn't*. It built the package, but it never installed the package
[00:54] <Flannel> noncom|2: checkinstall runs make install, but keeps track of all the files created and packages.
[00:54] <noncom|2> ummm okay... still I don't get how did it turn out for the program to appear registered in the system and then disappear
[00:55] <Flannel> noncom|2: so, during the "make install", it does technically, and then it gets rid of them.  I always thought it did the make install in some sort of sandbox.  Maybe not everything is properly sandboxed.
[00:55] <Flannel> noncom|2: checkinstall does *not* install the deb, as far as I'm aware.
[00:56] <noncom|2> omg so it kinda checks up the installation capability, but does not actually install an app by erasing it back after it checks, but something went wrong and it did not uninstall it completely, aaaand the instruction I posted says that this is the way to install Emacs?
[00:56] <StrifeTacDefuzer> come on microshat says... just blame GNu
[00:56] <Flannel> noncom|2: the instructions don't tell you to install the deb, and I believe that's an omission.  So yes, if you ran those, you wouldn't actually have the deb installed (therefore wouldn't have whatever was in the deb installed)
[00:57] <StrifeTacDefuzer> goooglecolbert linus say... JUst blame open seeders
[00:57] <noncom|2> damn, this story worth a drama movie.. :D
[00:57] <noncom|2> or a book..
[00:58] <StrifeTacDefuzer> dont make me get in your way. i can be very very, subdueing
[00:59] <Guest69537> where can i find a good video tutorial on eclipse C++ game development?
[01:01] <lasersaber> Guest61107, youtube?
[01:01] <nvrpunk> anyone know if there's a dedicated channel for Ubuntu on windows via WSL?
[01:02] <noncom|2> Flannel: well, I did that: "dpkg -i ***.deb" and it installed it. again... I think the world can sleep peacefully, once again safe for a while... and I hope that the while will last longer this time.. thank you!
[01:05] <greyoda> Hi, quick question: what fonts do you guys use?
[01:05] <CodeMouse92> greyoda: Going out on a limb, I think that'd be considered an offtopic question (try #ubuntu-offtopic)....
[01:06] <CodeMouse92> Since this room is just for support.
[01:06] <greyoda> Sorry! Didn't realize that. My bad
[01:06] <CodeMouse92> greyoda: NP. Come over to #ubuntu-offtopic. Fairly sure you'll get an answer
[01:06] <dax> (they'll need to log in to NickServ first)
[01:07] <mr-robot> hey
[01:07] <mr-robot> i need help
[01:08] <Bashing-om> !help | mr-robot
[01:14] <Cust0sLimen> hi
[01:14] <Cust0sLimen> is there an alternative to launchpad for free hosting of repos like ppas ?
[01:22] <dfgas> hello
[01:23] <NegativeFlare> Cust0sLimen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/367147/how-to-host-a-repository-like-ppa-in-my-own-site
[01:23] <avenger_q> MY COCK IS SO HARD BUT IT IS STILL SMALL FOR LINUX FROST
[01:23] <Cust0sLimen> NegativeFlare, nah nvm ... there is packagecloud
[01:23] <avenger_q> !ops
[01:23] <avenger_q> MY COCK IS SO HARD BUT IT IS STILL SMALL FOR LINUX FROST
[01:24] <dfgas> ok, on a ubuntu install that i have i went from 14.04 to 16.04 and my network doesn't work. i did do a ifup ens18 and configured the interfaces file instead of eth0 it is now ens18. well doing the ifup got me to be able to ping ip address but not domains. i edited resolv.conf and still doesn't work. any ideas on what i can do?
[01:24] <Cust0sLimen> I don't want to host it myself but I don't want to put it on launchpad with their stupid code of conduct
[01:24] <dfgas> this is ubuntu server
[01:24] <NegativeFlare> heh, its not really stupid. Its just how things work.
[01:25] <bazhang> Cust0sLimen, thats not really topical here at all
[01:25] <dax> the only code of conduct on Launchpad is for work within Ubuntu, it's got nothing whatsoever to do with PPAs
[01:25] <Cust0sLimen> dax, ok thanks for info
[01:26] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, I think the way networking is done changed quite drastically between those two versions ... but not 100% on details
[01:27] <dfgas> yeah, its kind of what i figured. i just need to get it fixed for temp use
[01:27] <rijack> is snap supposed to replace apt?
[01:28] <newcoder> Why are there so many ubuntu based linu distribution there? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions#Ubuntu-based , isn't it confusing? Which one will someone select from there and why instead of ubuntu then?
[01:29] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, well this person fixed it by switching to networkd: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767574/no-network-after-upgrade-to-16-04
[01:29] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, but I don't think that is really right
[01:29] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, can you check if networkd is running ?
[01:30] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, actually check if networkd or networkmanager is running
[01:30] <rijack> newcoder: the same reason so many are based on debian, this is actually considered one of the great strengths of linux
[01:30] <dfgas> how would i check that?
[01:31] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, systemctl list-units | grep -i -e networkd -e networkmanager
[01:32] <CodeMouse92> newcoder: You can think of Linux like the LEGO of operating systems...you can put it together with the pieces you want. A lot of people like the basic components of Ubuntu under the hood, but they want different parts on top (i.e. the user interface, window system, etc).
[01:32] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, or even better, systemctl list-units | tee >( nc termbin.com 9999 )
[01:33] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, then paste url
[01:34] <newcoder> CodeMouse92: What is LEGO? Why can't they install user interface, window system or else they need?
[01:34] <Cust0sLimen> newcoder, that lists xubuntu and kubuntu and IMO those are not really different distros
[01:34] <CodeMouse92> newcoder: Because people like things to be pre-packaged and pre-designed to work well together.
[01:34] <CodeMouse92> newcoder: And LEGOs are building toys. (Google it)
[01:36] <Cust0sLimen> dfgas, ?
[01:36] <CodeMouse92> newcoder: You can theoretically take any Linux distro, at any level, and tailor it to have everything you want...it's just a question of how much work you want to put into it. You could install Ubuntu and then set it up with Cinnamon and a bunch of other codecs and applications...or you could just install Linux Mint.
[01:36] <CodeMouse92> Besides that, if you do it yourself, you'll have to untangle more snarls and problems yourself. :P
[01:53] <freefall> hi.. problem.. after doing os upgrade for lubuntu some of the menu items are not there. like the software & updates is gone..
[01:53] <freefall> going from 16.04 to 16.10
[01:55] <freefall> it did error on update near the end for lubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <freefall> ??
[02:05] <rijack> freefall try #lubuntu
[02:07] <freefall> already have no answer
[02:07] <freefall> figure seen lubuntu and ubuntu is near the same maybe there was a common fix
[02:16] <ubuntu691> im doing a backup system using grsync - how is grsync so crazy fast at copying files vs using copy/paste?
[02:18] <rohanrhu> hi
[02:18] <mukluks> ubuntu691: because it checks to see what data doesn't need to be copied [hasn't changed]
[02:18] <mukluks> rohanrhu: o hai
[02:19] <ubuntu691> well this is my first backup... but it's just copied a bunch of files very quickly.
[02:19] <lasersaber> what happned to users and groups in 16.04? now its just users?
[02:19] <ubuntu691> it's hit a bit of a wall at the moment
[02:19] <rohanrhu> if i add bakcport repo and upgrade only a package, is it need something like "dist-upgrade"?
[02:19] <rohanrhu> i dont want dist-upgrade
[02:20] <mukluks> lasersaber: hmmm what happens if you do: cat /etc/group
[02:20] <rohanrhu> or i dont want upgrading everything to 17.04
[02:20] <mukluks> or do: ls -la
[02:21] <lasersaber> mukluks, i get a list of groups it looks like
[02:21] <mikeymop> I cloned this repo to my ~/.themes folder
[02:21] <Bashing-om> !dist-upgrade | rohanrhu
[02:21] <mikeymop> however unity tweak cannot see it
[02:21] <mikeymop> https://github.com/bsundman/Yosembiance/
[02:22] <lasersaber> mukluks, i wanted to use a gui groups management
[02:22] <mikeymop> could this be permissions? I wasn't sudo when I copied/cloned
[02:22] <mukluks> rohanrhu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports has a guide
[02:22] <qz_> happy new year
[02:22] <mukluks> rohanrhu: specifically: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Configuring_Backports_for_Manual_Install
[02:22] <rohanrhu> thank you
[02:23] <mukluks> lasersaber: why?
[02:24] <lasersaber> mukluks, easier for me
[02:24] <lasersaber> but i guess i can just sudo adduser someuser somegroup
[02:25] <Conner05> I installed some gfx drivers on my new Ubuntu system (Dell 7559). Now after decrypt the drive I get a black screen and cannot do anything.
[02:25] <mikeymop> Conner05, nvidia?
[02:25] <Conner05> Yep
[02:26] <mikeymop> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:26] <mikeymop> i've had good luck with this ppa
[02:26] <mikeymop> dkms recompiles hte modules after kernel updates
[02:26] <mukluks> lasersaber: no offense, but typically when someone mistakenly thinks their installation has no groups, and then when told they do have groups they respond saying they want a GUI to edit those groups, I would assume they might not have a full understanding of what role those groups play in the operation of their system
[02:26] <mikeymop> i dont recall the package name but if you can apt remove them you should get X back
[02:26] <mikeymop> otherwise just install that ppa
[02:27] <Conner05> Mikeymop but I can't see anything.
[02:27] <mikeymop> can anyone help me get unity tweak to see my gtk themes?
[02:27] <mikeymop> Conner05, oh, i assumed you'd be fine in the terminal
[02:27] <mikeymop> do you recall the packages you installed?
[02:27] <mikeymop> you're going to have to apt-get purge them
[02:27] <Conner05> I can't see the terminal
[02:27] <freefall> also anyone able to get backports to compile now im getting error in the make build process.. kinda need it to work seen i got a flaky wifi card
[02:27] <mikeymop> Conner05, do ctrl + alt + f4
[02:28] <lasersaber> mukluks, no worries. i just wanted to add myself to vboxusers group
[02:28] <mikeymop> you should get tty4 from which you can sign into unix
[02:28] <sruli> Conner05: what do you get with CTRL+ALT+F1 ?
[02:28] <rohanrhu> is it recoverable adding backport repository?
[02:28] <freefall> no downloaded from kernel.org
[02:28] <Conner05> Ah and just assume it's there. OK
[02:28] <Conner05> Sruli nothing. Still black
[02:29] <sruli> Conner05: what about moving your arrow keys right or left?
[02:29] <mukluks> rohanrhu: it can be painful removing all the backport dependency packages you've installed and reverting them to main release versions
[02:29] <freefall> i have to rebuild it on every kernel update otherwise my wifi card goes into a crazy error state and flood out tty1
[02:30] <mukluks> rohanrhu: but yes, everything is recoverable, it just depends on how much time/money you want to spend fixing it :P
[02:30] <freefall> it onboard
[02:31] <lasersaber> brb, rebooting
[02:31] <Conner05> Sruli there's nothing on the screen. It's completely black with my led backlight.
[02:32] <sruli> Conner05: you'll have to boot in rescue mode or with live cd
[02:32] <mikeymop> ^^
[02:32] <Conner05> Sob.. what's the audio shutdown CMD?
[02:32] <mikeymop> the hdmi port could be hooked to the intel chip instead
[02:32] <Conner05> Sudo
[02:32] <Conner05> Sudo*
[02:32] <mikeymop> this would cause confusion
[02:33] <icedwater> Hi everyone, I can't seem to get gnome-terminal to start. Does anybody know where I can look for error messages from this?
[02:33] <mikeymop> is there a better channel to get support with themes?
[02:33] <freefall> icedwater, try /var/log
[02:33] <freefall> icedwater, try /var/logs
[02:33] <mukluks> icedwater: you could install another terminal and try launching gnome-term from that
[02:34] <mikeymop> icedwater, give us the less of the .desktop file for gnome term
[02:34] <mukluks> xterm may already be installed
[02:34] <icedwater> freefall: thanks, I think the message I was looking for was in syslog, I just didn't know it was that because I was unable to reproduce the message.
[02:34]  * mikeymop forgets that convenient pastebin alternative
[02:34] <mjson> hi
[02:34] <icedwater> mukluks: yes, it is already installed and I just remembered that, thanks :)
[02:34] <icedwater> mikeymop: I like ix.io
[02:35] <freefall> would the backports from update build the needed wifi? or is it just the source file
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Conner05: Try : reboot to the login screen, here press ctl+alt+F1 . Can you log into the system here ?
[02:37] <sruli> Bashing-om: you cant get tty from plymoth
[02:37] <Bashing-om> sruli: Are you sure ? Try and be a believer .
[02:38] <mikeymop> icedwater, this is nice!
[02:40] <sruli> Bashing-om: just tried, while in plymoth it seems to be tty1, f1-f7 give black screen
[02:40] <sruli> Bashing-om: sorry, f2-f7 black screen, f1 is plymoth screen
[02:40] <icedwater> mikeymop: I know, right? :P Where would I find the .desktop file for gnome-terminal? I'm getting an odd locale error, too, hang on...
[02:40] <icedwater> sruli: black screens are nice if they have login prompts.
[02:41] <mikeymop> icedwater, you're ubuntu gnome or ubuntu unity?
[02:41] <icedwater> mikeymop: Using unity, unfortunately.
[02:41] <mikeymop> I'm on unity too, thankfully
[02:41] <mikeymop> let me poke around for a sec
[02:41] <sruli> icedwater: yes, but you wont get it in plymoth, if you hit the left/right arrow you get plymoth text istead of gui but wont get you to a root shell
[02:42]  * mikeymop got yosembiance working, from noobslabs ppa, but wishes to use the git clone
[02:43] <icedwater> sruli: what do you mean by plymouth text?
[02:43] <icedwater> I get Ubuntu 16.04 $hostname $tty (newline, newline) $hostname login:
[02:44] <icedwater> Then I just log in from there to a user that has sudo access, and run sudo bash to get to root access.
[02:44] <icedwater> I think ubuntu doesn't have root logins by default; if you configured an account at install time then you could use it, though
[02:45] <sruli> icedwater: http://imgur.com/a/dEoBI gui and text
[02:45] <sruli> icedwater: plymoth is the screen you get at boot when using luks
[02:46] <mikeymop> icedwater, $ less /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop
[02:48] <Conner05> Bashing-om after I decrypt the disk it's just black. Nothing. I tried opening terminal and doing a sudo restart and it doesn't do anything. So I'm not really sure what's actually going on.
[02:48] <Bashing-om> sruli: I do not know about encryption, but in a "normal" install one can at this point( plymouth starting) activate grub to get a mimimalistic interface to the system .
[02:48] <sruli> Conner05: when you reboot do you get a screen with boot options? (ubuntu, advanced options...
[02:49] <icedwater> sruli: saw it. Thanks. Never seen that screen before.
[02:49] <mikeymop> Conner05, maybe it's deep in your init system that it's failing to exec the nvidia binaries
[02:49] <mikeymop> icedwater, $ less /usr/share/applications/gnome-terminal.desktop
[02:50] <sruli> Bashing-om: correct, not in luks though if i understood correctly conner is saying that he is using luks
[02:50] <Conner05> Luks?
[02:50] <sruli> Conner05: you said the black screen appears after encryption password, correct?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Conner05: Not at all familiar or know anything about encryption . If you can not get a terminal from the login screen, ya got a serious problem more so than graphics . As at this pount the GUI graphics driver is not loaded .
[02:51] <Conner05> Sruli the disk, yes
[02:51] <icedwater> mikeymop: ix.io/1P07 is the .desktop file
[02:51] <sruli> Conner05: when you reboot do you get a screen with boot options? (ubuntu, advanced options...
[02:52] <mikeymop> icedwater, well that matches mine
[02:52] <Conner05> Sruli no. I just get the screen where I decrypt the disk (I chose disk encryption when I created the system) and then it just goes black.
[02:52] <mikeymop> whats the ls -l on it look like? permission issues maybe/
[02:52] <Conner05> After I type in the password of course
[02:53] <icedwater> mikeymop: let me check again. I saw some locale issues somewhere in syslog.
[02:53] <sruli> Conner05: reboot when you get to the plymoth password page hit ctrl+alt+del, that reboot should get you to boot options... select adavanced
[02:54] <Conner05> OK
[02:54] <Conner05> Sruli OK I'm there
[02:54] <sruli> select recovery
[02:55] <sruli> Conner05: "recovery mode"
[02:55] <Conner05> OK.
[02:56] <sruli> Conner05: `after entering encryption password when you get to next screen select "root" option
[02:58] <mikeymop> icedwater, i have to get in the habit of looking in syslog
[02:58] <Mis-anthrope> is there a way to close a "stuck" virtual terminal?
[02:58] <icedwater> Yeah, the next step is to make sense of what's in there.... :p
[02:59] <sruli> Conner05: where ar you upto?
[02:59] <Mis-anthrope> like I have my X freezed up in once console (I used startx from 1st virtual console) and now I want to close it from another VC
[02:59] <Mis-anthrope> one*
[02:59] <Conner05> OK
[02:59] <Mis-anthrope> I am using Ubuntu Server 16.04
[02:59] <Conner05> I'm at root now
[03:00] <Conner05> Sorry. I'm on kiwiirc on my phone. Hard to see all the text
[03:00] <sruli> Conner05: you selected root? you have command lin enow?
[03:01] <Mis-anthrope> I just need to close a virtual console(ergo "logout" from it) from another virtual console... is that possible??????
[03:01] <Conner05> Well I did. Now it just started spitting out stuff and put my back to the screen to select root with the purple background. But my mouse keys down work now.
[03:02] <Conner05> Don't work*
[03:02] <sruli> Conner05: you mouse wont work in root shell, type "ls" hit enter, what do you get?
[03:03] <sruli> Conner05: do you get a list of directories?
[03:03] <Conner05> Not mouse. Arrow keys
[03:04] <sruli> Conner05: you waited too long, hit the enter key.. what do you get?
[03:04] <Conner05> I restarted and I'm back
[03:04] <Conner05> Yes I can LS and stuff
[03:04] <sruli> you have root shell<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:04] <Conner05> Yea
[03:05] <sruli> Conner05: now execute, "mount -o remount,rw /"
[03:05] <Conner05> OK done
[03:05] <Conner05> And it just killed my session again
[03:05] <sruli> Conner05: hit enter ewhat do you get?
[03:06] <Conner05> Nothing happened but it started spitting out more text with lots of [ OK]s and now my arrow keys don't work again.
[03:07] <Conner05> And I'm back at the menu screen
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Mis-anthrope: Try ' ps aux | grep -i tty ' Do you now know the PID of the TTY to kill ? then one can ' sudo kill -9 <PID_number> ' .
[03:07] <Mis-anthrope> ik
[03:07] <sruli> Conner05: are you on 16.04?
[03:07] <Mis-anthrope> I figured it out :D
[03:07] <Conner05> Yes
[03:08] <Mis-anthrope> Thanks Bashing-om :)
[03:08] <Mis-anthrope> I used ps -aux to see a list of processes to figure out whats the PID of xinit and then I killed it using kill :D
[03:08] <sruli> Conner05: when you select root from the menu do you get a message "control D for maintaince"?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Mis-anthrope: :) . You do good work .
[03:09] <Conner05> Woah. So I started typing and the CMD line is still there. It just now shows up over top of the menu screen.
[03:09] <Mis-anthrope> It was trivial.. and I am a noob :/
[03:10] <icedwater> mikeymop: anyhow, I'm looking into dbus-launch and stuff based on http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=208069
[03:10] <sruli> Conner05: great i got you to a shell.. dont know how to resolve your driver issue.. maybe Bashing-om / mikeymop can take over from here
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Mis-anthrope: Weclome to the learning curve, we are all at some point on it :)
[03:11] <Conner05> I guess I can uninstall the Nvidia drivers I installed
[03:11] <sruli> Conner05: actually before you continue, when you execute ls do you get a list of all dirs in your / dir ?
[03:11] <Conner05> It's all hidden dir in root
[03:12] <sruli> Conner05: what do you see?
[03:13] <icedwater> Interesting, I can't even set-locale to C
[03:13] <Conner05> .Cache .Dbus. .Gconf .Gnupg .Gvfs .Profile .bash_histroy .Bashrc
[03:14] <rohanrhu> mukluks: :/
[03:15] <rohanrhu> mukluks: i had tried upgrading to 17.10 but it was disappointment
[03:15] <sruli> Conner05: you are going to have to reboot again, after selecting "root" from the menu, you should get a message "Control-D for maintaince" hit enter immediately else it goes into maintaince
[03:15] <icedwater> mukluks: I suppose you meant 16.10...
[03:16] <Conner05> Sruli I am pretty sure I did that.
[03:16] <sruli> Conner05: once in the root shell you have to execute "mount -o remount,rw /" to mount the filesystem as read write, when you exec "ls" at root shell you should see all dirs from / (bin, boot, dev. etc. home....)
[03:17] <rohanrhu> what difference is kubuntu-backports vs ubuntu-backports?
[03:18] <Conner05> Oh OK. Let me try again.
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Conner05: Any results : ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' ?
[03:20] <Conner05> Bashing-om temp failure in name resolution
[03:20] <Conner05> Sruli the mount didn't work. Is there any way to know for sure I am in fact in maintenance mode?
[03:21] <sruli> Conner05: you dont want maintaince mode, what do you see when exec ls ?
[03:22] <Conner05> Sruli I get nothing from LS. Only from LL.
[03:22] <Conner05> So I guess I need to restart again?
[03:22] <sruli> Conner05: you see same as you saw before?
[03:22] <Conner05> Yes
[03:22] <sruli> Conner05: output of "pwd" ?
[03:23] <sruli> Conner05: sorry, go up a dir (cd ..) then exec ls
[03:23] <Conner05> Ah now that looks better
[03:23] <Conner05> Def in root now
[03:24] <sruli> Conner05: exec "mount | grep root" do you see rw on the output?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Conner05: Ooopppss .. systemd. If you are active in the recovery console will have to enable networking .
[03:25] <mikeymop> icedwater, best of luck, bedtime
[03:26] <Conner05> Says /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root on / type ext4 (RW,relative,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[03:27] <sruli> Conner05: you are good to go.. follow Bashing-om instructions now.. see his last message regarding starting network
[03:28] <sruli> systemctl start NetworkManager.service
[03:30] <Bashing-om> Conner05: ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' . You get a positive result from ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[03:30] <Conner05> Trying
[03:34] <Conner05> The enable of the service is taking a long time.
[03:34] <Conner05> Lol says kthread starved for 1001 jiffies!
[03:35]  * lasersaber :)
[03:46] <slicktux> Hello community, anyone here custom compile there own kernel for ubuntu?
[03:46] <slicktux> s/there/their
[03:47] <slicktux> Also, what makes Ubuntu LTS, well, LTS? Is it simply the kernel version for which the packages are compiled for the kernel, or does the kernel change for LTS versions of Ubuntu?
[03:48] <tinfoil_hat> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Traditional_compilation should be a good starting point if you want to compile a kernel
[03:49] <sruli> slicktux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support
[03:50] <tinfoil_hat> and LTS versions of ubuntu get several years of support while the support if non LTS versions is dropped relativeley quick
[03:55] <slicktux> sruli: thank you for the URL; I have Ubuntu version 16.04.1 LTS with kernel 4.4, so that means that 16.04.1LTS will have support for 5 years and in those 5 yearts it will remain with kernel 4.4; if that is correct then it means that LTS updates the packages which are catered for kernel version 4.4 for thoe 5 years?
[03:56] <Australopithecus>  Hello my windows partition is mounting as read only can someone give me fstab mount options that will give me permission to read and write to it?
[03:56] <Australopithecus> i am on ubuntu-mate 16.1
[03:57] <sruli> slicktux: yes.. obviously there are kernel updates within 4.4 also i guess this will apply to 16.04 when 18.04 is released https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:58] <wiselydoesit> i managed to change my repos from 14.04 to 16.04 and dist-upgrade.
[03:58] <wiselydoesit> after a couple of botched starts and a few fixes it got there in the end.
[03:59] <sruli> Australopithecus: did you take a look at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ?
[04:00] <deus402> so i am periodically losing all remote access to my server for 30-60 minutes at a time. when it comes back i see messages of this nature in dmesg: "[20862.385796] TCP: request_sock_TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 8080. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters." on multiple ports. here is my output of netstat -s: http://pastebin.com/yc0vDc3e halp please.
[04:00] <slicktux> sruli: Awesome, this is very helpful as I am going to be compiling my own custom kernel. . .and well I want to be able to use the packages in the ubuntu repo without errors. Here goes nothing. . .
[04:00] <slicktux> ;)
[04:01] <Australopithecus> thanks I will look at the article blah
[04:01] <Australopithecus> this shouldnt be such a bitch
[04:02] <slicktux> Australopithecus: yes, it != if only you RTFM
[04:02] <sruli> slicktux: i never compiled my own kernel and wouldn’t know how updates will effect as there is a minor kernel update every few weeks
[04:05] <sruli> slicktux: in 4.4 there has already been 16 updates.. dont know how many of them actually get installed on dist-upgrade but some for sure do.. look for "linux-image-4.4" here http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[04:05] <Australopithecus> slicktux, you shouldnt have to read a manual to edit a disks read and write options, but I will admit, ubuntu has got better at least the allow you to easily automount drives now
[04:07] <Australopithecus> yes, it not if only you RTFM, doesnt make grammatical sense
[04:07] <Guest81572> bazhang: simply question, ARE YOU A FAGGOT?
[04:07] <icedwater> Heh, I didn't even get to say goodbye :P
[04:08] <icedwater> bazhang: quick work
[04:09] <Mr_Cyclops> Interesting, people using foul language in the channel and no warnings from the admin(s)?
[04:10] <slicktux> Australopithecus: you should always be cautious when doing something 'simple' like mounting a partition from another OS, and it is not that you should read the manual, but rather that it is for the best; take this for example. . . https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2016/11/17/do-not-change-linux-files-using-windows-apps-and-tools/
[04:10] <icedwater> Heh, meta trolls. Not bad, not bad.
[04:10] <slicktux> anyhow I will not waste yer time with my criticism.
[04:10] <Australopithecus> I am aware of this, but windows is typically alright for read/write, at least in my experience
[04:11] <Australopithecus> I am well aware you should not edit linux partitions under windows or any other operating system
[04:12] <Australopithecus> im not inept, just annoyed because I cant find a list of all the fstab mount options
[04:12] <Australopithecus> so I can just edit my fstab file and make it mount as readable
[04:13] <slicktux> rw
[04:13] <icedwater> Australopithecus: did you set the remount options in case of error? Sometimes being a Windows partition, you might just have to reboot once to Windows and then shutdown cleanly... especially with newfangled NTFS
[04:13] <vfw> Australopithecus: as slicktux points out, substitute rw for ro
[04:13] <Australopithecus> i didnt know this
[04:13] <Australopithecus> ok
[04:14] <slicktux> ;)
[04:14] <Australopithecus> thanks I will try this
[04:14] <Australopithecus> sorry for kind of being a jerk
[04:18] <slicktux> Also, somtimes non-root users are unable to write to mounted partitions; this is determined by polkit, or whatever yer system uses. If after editing yer fstab you still cannot write to the mounted partition cp something to the mounted partition via root and if you can then well. . .the process of elimination will enlighten
[04:20] <deus402> so i'm pretty sure that i'm not actually being syn flooded, and it's just high server traffic. should upping net.core.somaxconn to a higher value help me out?
[04:20] <Kman> Hey,  why in recovery mode, i can still not get into root shell?? still need root passwd which i have forgotten
[04:20] <rottenpussy> dax is maybe bazhang s gay husband
[04:21] <slicktux> Kman: cage the system
[04:21] <Kman> currently i dont have a CD or USB install image
[04:22] <Kman> slicktux: what?
[04:23] <slicktux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[04:23] <slicktux> Kman: something like that ^^
[04:24] <slicktux> Kman: the idea is tho change the root DIR to a USB with a Live Linux Distro (like LIveUSB) and then maybe paswd for root once the system is jailed. . .
[04:25] <Kman> slicktux: i forget root and user is not in sudoers
[04:26] <Kman> slicktux: at the moment i dont have a cd or usb, unfortunately
[04:26] <slicktux> Kman: this is a simplified version of what I am trying to explain https://madalanarayana.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/chroot-and-root-user-password-recovery-in-linux/
[04:26] <slicktux> Kman: well for the moment yer screwed.
[04:26] <Ben64> Kman: what are you trying to accomplish
[04:27] <Australopithecus> so I had the correct options I just needed to restart thanks for the help
[04:27] <Australopithecus> well into windows
[04:27] <Kman> slicktux: Ben64 :(
[04:28] <Ben64> Kman: you're trying to accomplish sad face?
[04:28] <Australopithecus> I have another question, how do I change the time zone in ubuntu
[04:28] <Kman> Ben64: reset root passwd without using usb or cd
[04:28] <Ben64> root doesn't have a password by default
[04:28] <Australopithecus> one second I will explain the problem
[04:28] <Kman> Ben64: in recovery mode i still can NOT drop in root shell
[04:28] <Ben64> recovery mode is a root shell
[04:28] <slicktux> Kman: su -
[04:29] <slicktux> Kman: then hit enter (without entering passwd) and see if it let's ya in?
[04:29] <Kman> in recovery mode, the system requires root passwd in the first place
[04:29] <Ben64> slicktux: if that works, he's already root so it's kinda pointless
[04:29] <Ben64> Kman: no it doesn't
[04:30] <slicktux> Ben64: SO, Ubuntu != put passwd for root; hence one can boot into recovery mode and root the lappy and the users in it?
[04:30] <Ben64> if someone has physical access to any machine, you're not in good shape
[04:30] <slicktux> Ben64: wow
[04:30] <Ben64> that's not a new concept
[04:31] <slicktux> Ben64: good thing I uninstalled sudo and passwd for root
[04:31] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[04:31] <Ben64> if someone has physical access, they still can get in
[04:31] <Kman> for sure
[04:32] <slicktux> Ben64: well, of course, but what about Desktops were there are users whom are isolated. . .seems like a sec-flaw
[04:32] <sdsdsdksks> Question.
[04:32] <sdsdsdksks> Strangest question you will see all night!
[04:32] <Ben64> Kman: alternatively try going to grub and changing the kernel line to have init=/bin/bash at the end
[04:32] <Ben64> slicktux: giving untrusted people physical access to a machine is a security flaw
[04:32] <sdsdsdksks> How would i go about falisfying a login on ubuntu.
[04:33] <Ben64> sdsdsdksks: you're going to need to explain what that means
[04:33] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: why would you want to?
[04:33] <sdsdsdksks> So if I log into account A it logs me into the install
[04:33] <sdsdsdksks> If I log into account b, it logs me into a VM
[04:33] <sdsdsdksks> Until logged in USB ports are disabled
[04:34] <sdsdsdksks> That strange enough for you gus?
[04:34] <sdsdsdksks> guys*
[04:35] <CoLdFeeLiNgS> lol
[04:35] <Ben64> doesn't make any sense
[04:35] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: You mean, you want to log in as another user?
[04:35] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: I want to log into a VM
[04:35] <sdsdsdksks> Ben64: it does though
[04:35] <Ben64> it really doesn't
[04:36] <slicktux> sdsdsdksks: Just reboot the system and go into recovery mode; you'll get root
[04:36] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: to you it does, there were some holes in your question
[04:36] <sdsdsdksks> I need to pass through a more hostile area that will want my laptop to be unlocked.
[04:36] <slicktux> so it seems.
[04:36] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: OK, so you want to log in as user b instead of a
[04:36]  * slicktux bewildered
[04:36] <sdsdsdksks> slicktux: hah
[04:36] <sdsdsdksks> oh, lordy. You think I don't use FDE and encrypt my home directory?
[04:36] <Kman> su- not work
[04:37] <slicktux> Kman: yer root already. . . Ben64 might be right; IDK
[04:37] <slicktux> Kman: yer in it right now?
[04:37] <Ben64> i'm always right
[04:37] <slicktux> Ben64: :)
[04:37] <icedwater> Ben64: only when you're not left.
[04:37] <slicktux> Ben64: I must admit I am bewildered
[04:38] <sdsdsdksks> Think of it like how TrueCrypt had two containers in one
[04:38] <Kman> always: give root passwd to maintain////
[04:38] <sdsdsdksks> One container opened to your normal harmless data, the other brought you to a hidden container that you couldn't confirm nor deny existing
[04:38] <slicktux> Kman: just hit enter; "root does not have a password by default"
[04:38] <slicktux> (in ubuntu)
[04:38] <Kman> i think i will have to have a USB  or CD to boot
[04:38] <icedwater> I can't seem to get the datetime panel on my unity to work, though. Any idea where to look?
[04:39] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: I explained my question:)
[04:39] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: if you got into the hidden container, you can probably confirm its existence...
[04:39] <Kman> slicktux: there is no way to bypass the password inputing
[04:39] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: that's the idea
[04:39] <sdsdsdksks> you can't get in.
[04:40] <sdsdsdksks> You need to know of it's existence to know how to get in
[04:40] <icedwater> Kman: it is possible to just press enter, to enter "no password"
[04:40] <slicktux> Kman: SO, I thought; yer going to have to cage the system. . . then you can either remove sudo and give root a password; or do whatever the hell it is yer trying to acheive
[04:40] <sdsdsdksks> Think of it like this, imagine having a computer in a computer.
[04:40] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: maybe if you knocked three times on the door, and said its name, then repeated that process exactly twice, it might open the door for you.
[04:41] <Kman> slicktux: to cage system, do we need root shell?
[04:41] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: I don't get your point.
[04:41] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: what hidden container are you looking for, anyway? If you know of its existence, you know how to get in.
[04:41] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: I'm not.
[04:41] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: well, OK, that wasn't true.
[04:41] <sdsdsdksks> I was giving an example
[04:41] <slicktux> Kman: You'll get root shell once the system is caged! then you can "sudo add user" or whatever as super user
[04:41] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: also, the other thing was a reference to Sheldon Cooper.
[04:41] <Kman> icedwater: i tried many ways
[04:41] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: ...
[04:42] <Kman> slicktux: how can i get my system cagged first>
[04:42] <deus402> i believe what sdsdsdksks is trying to do is prevent rubber-hose attacks
[04:42] <slicktux> Kman: google "chroot ubuntu" or read the links I posted earlier to get an idea; each linux distro difers. . .
[04:42] <icedwater> deus402: I suppose, though I have never heard of them.
[04:43] <deus402> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis
[04:43] <sdsdsdksks> deus402: I never got the idea of referencing XKCD as fact
[04:43] <sdsdsdksks> deus402: also that's not the attack I'm direclty trying to avoid.
[04:43] <Kman> slicktux: i think i need to edit my grub2 with init=/bin/bash
[04:43] <sdsdsdksks> Nothing prevents them from making you remember things that "don't exist"
[04:44] <deus402> i.e., have an encrypted fs that he could freely login to at will, but if someone forced him to show what was on his machine he could log into a separate area that didn't have any sensitive data.
[04:44] <sdsdsdksks> deus402: That wont protect against USB based attacks
[04:44] <sdsdsdksks> Those are what I want to protect against
[04:44] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: I see, so if someone booted your computer with a USB they could still see your encrypted system, etc.
[04:44] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: and?
[04:45] <slicktux> Kman: https://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password#24024
[04:45]  * deus402 is now googling xkcd rubber hose attacks
[04:45] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: I'm just clarifying what you meant by USB-based attacks, did I miss anything?
[04:45] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: FDE
[04:45] <sdsdsdksks> You can see the encrypted data but you can't see what it means
[04:45] <icedwater> deus402: I don't know, if you think Sheldon Cooper is from XKCD, you're a little off, but that search is probably worth running too.
[04:45] <sdsdsdksks> Prove that I'm in my real home directory and not a VM
[04:46] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: XKCD made the rubber hose thing first
[04:46] <sdsdsdksks> I wish people would stop linking XKCD like fact...
[04:46] <icedwater> Ah, so the rubber hose thing got its name from an XKCD strip?
[04:46] <sdsdsdksks> Instead of a real argument / debate they reference a comic.
[04:46] <icedwater> Well, it's not fact, but if it's popular enough to name things, why not?
[04:46] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: https://xkcd.com/538/
[04:46] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: don't trash comics. They can be useful sometimes.
[04:47] <icedwater> e.g.: xkcd.com/627
[04:47] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: because it's stupid as fuck.
[04:47] <sdsdsdksks> Why would you beat someone with a rubber hose to get data out of them?
[04:47] <sdsdsdksks> waterboarding is more fun.
[04:47] <sdsdsdksks> *cough*
[04:48] <turbo64> is there a ubuntu cd that just does a base instlal with no desktop environment
[04:48] <sdsdsdksks> turbo64: ubuntu server
[04:48] <sdsdsdksks> :^)
[04:48] <deus402> i see no reference to rubber hose attacks in the xkcd comic, other than what the describe in the second panel is a rubber hose attack
[04:48] <sdsdsdksks> deus402: 99% of people going on about rubber hose attacks quote XKCD and link it.
[04:48] <turbo64> one that also doesnt install a lot of server stuff
[04:48] <sdsdsdksks> turbo64: ubuntu-server
[04:49] <Kman> screw you... lol, i fixed it with simple way: add init=/bin/bash in grub 2!
[04:49] <turbo64> ignored for life
[04:49] <sruli> turbo64: ubuntu mini
[04:49] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks is trying to get you to remember stuff that isn't there, deus402 :P
[04:49] <sdsdsdksks> turbo64: ...
[04:49] <turbo64> sruli: thank you
[04:49] <sdsdsdksks> ...
[04:49] <sdsdsdksks> !ops turbo64 troll
[04:49] <Kman> why get things so complicated?
[04:49] <sdsdsdksks> How can I report turbo64 for being a troll
 sdsdsdksks tried to use the ops trigger for #ubuntu but is restricted from doing so.
[04:50] <nchambers> :/
[04:50] <nchambers> sdsdsdksks, just /ignore them
[04:50] <sdsdsdksks> nchambers: It would be nice to see them removed.
[04:50] <sdsdsdksks> Ignoring people then asking for the same answer over and over isn't going to get you far in here
[04:50] <nchambers> you get the same thing from /ignoring them
[04:50] <turbo64> the /ignore command is highly underused on irc
[04:50] <turbo64> i think people like to be angry
[04:50] <turbo64> or have the last word
[04:50] <nchambers> sdsdsdksks, sure it will
[04:51] <nchambers> its gotten me quite far
[04:51] <nchambers> because I don't bother with those people
[04:51] <danzizi> unity8 works on my laptop
[04:51] <Kman> icedwater: edit grub --> fixed the root shell problem
[04:51] <sdsdsdksks> I answered his question three times.
[04:51] <icedwater> On a side note, you can't always ignore trolls and have them go away.
[04:51] <sdsdsdksks> turbo64: didn't like his answer.
[04:51] <nchambers> great, then ignore him
[04:51] <turbo64> you can ignore them on the internet
[04:51] <sdsdsdksks> Also for future reference, ubuntu-server is how you get a minimal install
[04:51] <turbo64> its when they start calling up your mothers home phone or sending swat teams to your house when youve got a problem
[04:51] <sdsdsdksks> AFAIK Ubuntu Minimal Install CD downloads from the web and still gives you the full DE
[04:52] <icedwater> Kman: interesting. I have to admit I wasn't really listening to the first bit of your problem, but I am glad you have solved it.
[04:52] <sruli> u can choose not to add any packages
[04:52] <sdsdsdksks> sruli: You can do that with the default installer
[04:52] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: you're probably right about that. I thought there was an ubuntu-mini at some point, has it been discontinued, or ... was it never there
[04:52] <turbo64> no its there
[04:52] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: AFAIK, just minimal install disk
[04:53] <sdsdsdksks> That's why i say use Ubuntu Server
[04:53] <turbo64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:53] <Kman> icedwater: first problem was: in recovery mode, i still need to input root passwd which i forgot
[04:53] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: with ubuntu server you don't have to install the server packages and it comes with no DE by default
[04:53] <Kman> icedwater: so i had to insert CD or USB to boot
[04:53] <icedwater> turbo64: so does that not give you what you want?
[04:53] <sdsdsdksks> Just for future reference.
[04:53] <icedwater> Kman: ah
[04:54] <Kman> icedwater: but i dont want to do that because i dont have cd or usb at hand
[04:54] <icedwater> Kman: so now you have a root shell, I gather?
[04:55] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: if you're interested in a interesting new distro try Alpine
[04:56] <sdsdsdksks> Anyone know if there's a hardened kernel for Ubuntu?
[04:56] <Kman> icedwater: yes. did it with editting the grub
[04:56] <sdsdsdksks> one on the official repo's
[04:56] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: I set up a VM on my old disk, but didn't really play around with it...
[04:56] <icedwater> s/disk/laptop
[04:56] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: It's neat
[04:57] <sdsdsdksks> I would love a hardened kernel
[04:57] <icedwater> Although this looks like it would do better on ubuntu-offtopic, to be quite honest.
[04:57] <sdsdsdksks> my question still isn't answered :>
[04:58] <sdsdsdksks> I know i could probably use qemu for the VM guest but the rest is... confusing...
[04:58] <Ben64> sdsdsdksks: what's your question?
[04:59] <deus402> i still don't fully understand the problem sdsdsdksks
[04:59] <sdsdsdksks> How would I go about setting up my machine to boot up to the login dialog, run a VM in the background and depending on how I login
[04:59] <icedwater> Ben64: how do you have two logins for the same account name, leading to different setups, I suppose, sdsdsdksks?
[04:59] <sdsdsdksks> the VM takes over the host and USB drives
[04:59] <Ben64> you're doing something incorrectly
[04:59] <sdsdsdksks>  but if I use a different login then it logs me into my actual setup
[05:00] <Ben64> what vm software do you use
[05:00] <sdsdsdksks> As of now, virtualbox
[05:00] <Ben64> you can run that from command line, don't need gui or anything
[05:00] <sdsdsdksks> I want to protect against rouge USB's being plugged in
[05:00] <sdsdsdksks> Ben64: the idea is to make it seamless
[05:00] <Ben64> ok?
[05:00] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: incidentally, rogue, not rouge.
[05:00] <sdsdsdksks> The malicious actor should not be able to know they're stuck in a VM
[05:01] <Ben64> and you're back to not making sense
[05:01] <sdsdsdksks> ty icedwater
[05:02] <deus402> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_(file_system)
[05:02] <icedwater> Ben64: I think it's tricky to explain, but sdsdsdksks does have a valid question. Though I doubt it's a support case per se.
[05:02] <sdsdsdksks> deus402: two issues: [edit] Rubberhose is not actively maintained, although it is available for Linux kernel 2.2, NetBSD and FreeBSD. Latest version available, still in alpha stage, is v0.8.3.[4]
[05:02] <sdsdsdksks> And that doesn't protect against USB attacks
[05:03] <sdsdsdksks> The closest thing would be Qubes OS
[05:03] <sdsdsdksks> But Qubes is as obvious as screaming "MY LAPTOP IS ENCRYPTED AND YOU LOGIN TO A FAKE MACHIEN WHEN YOU SEARCH IT!"
[05:03] <Ben64> what is this supposed usb attack you're protecting against
[05:03] <sdsdsdksks> You never know what's on a usb
[05:03] <sdsdsdksks> or what a USB is
[05:03] <Ben64> ok so disable auto mount
[05:04] <sdsdsdksks> Rubber Ducky
[05:04] <sdsdsdksks> bugs in the USB stack
[05:05] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[05:05] <sdsdsdksks> raynold: It's 2017!
[05:05] <sdsdsdksks> Finally.
[05:06] <deus402> i guess i just don't understand why the solution to the hypothetical attack is a vm
[05:06] <Ben64> (it isn't)
[05:06] <sdsdsdksks> It is
[05:06] <sdsdsdksks> The goal is to make them think they succeded
[05:06] <Ben64> this is the tinfoil hat talking
[05:07] <sdsdsdksks> Ben64: it's not.
[05:07] <sdsdsdksks> There's a few things on my laptop that need to be protected
[05:07] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: OK, I don't know how Qubes is obvious, I guess I have to try it out
[05:07] <Ben64> then put it in a safe
[05:07] <sdsdsdksks> icedwater: Qubes is, Qubes
[05:08] <sdsdsdksks> It makes it clear that things are in VM's. Ben64 that wont solve the issue
[05:08] <Ben64> nothing will solve your issue
[05:08] <sdsdsdksks> Good practices will
[05:08] <Ben64> your issue is paranoia
[05:08] <sdsdsdksks> I want to protect against USB attacks and being forced to unlock the machine
[05:08] <sdsdsdksks> Ben64: It's not.
[05:09] <matemyg514> t
[05:09] <Ben64> it is, but i see that it's pointless to go on with this
[05:09] <deus402> TrueCrypt allows for "hidden volumes" - two or more passwords open different volumes in the same file, but only one of the volumes contains secret data.
[05:09] <sdsdsdksks> Ben64: It's not.
[05:09] <sdsdsdksks> The data I want to protect I need to keep on me and protected while still being usable
[05:09] <australopithecus> is it fine to update your kernal to 4.9 on ubuntu or will it cause problems?
[05:10] <sdsdsdksks> Saying it's pointless / paranoia is like saying there's no need for a bullet proof vehicle when travelling through an area where you might be shot. Especially if they have a reason to shoot at you.
[05:10] <australopithecus> im running a kabby lake processor and the current kernal I have has bugs that have been resolved in 4.9
[05:10] <icedwater> australopithecus: I would add that to grub and boot with it, that way if it causes problems you can still boot into an older working kernel
[05:10] <australopithecus> is there a guide for this icedwater?
[05:10] <australopithecus> I have never done such a thing
[05:13] <Ben64> australopithecus: are you sure the fix hasnt been backported to the ubuntu kernel
[05:13] <icedwater> australopithecus: I don't know, it used to happen automatically when I installed a new kernel or did an upgrade, eg apt-get install linux-image-4.8.0, etc.
[05:13] <icedwater> australopithecus: Which kernel are you running now, and what's the bug? (Just curious.)
[05:19] <sdsdsdksks> hows is linux blueray support
[05:20] <icedwater> sdsdsdksks: Heh, I see you've given up on your other question. :P
[05:20] <sdsdsdksks> yep.
[05:20] <Speiros> Hello all.  Is there a way to understand why I am having trouble getting sound on the 16.4 series of Ubuntu?  I've since deleted it, and gone back to 14.4.  I need it for music, so it isn't suitable until such times as I can get it working.
[05:22] <icedwater> Speiros: I'm pretty new to 16.04 too, wouldn't mind learning what your issue is :P
[05:23] <Ben64> kind of impossible to tell without being on 16.04
[05:24] <mozammel> hi, I'm have just installed ubuntu 16.10, before i was openSUSE Leap user, now my problem is I cant see user folder of opensuse. that is /home/rana, now I can only see ubuntu home folder I have saperate home partition, if I open ubuntu live disk, then I can see under /home i can see all folder
[05:24] <Speiros> Ben64 I tried all the ideas given to me formerly, about 3-6 months back, and none worked.  I've also found that a lot of the Audacity files aren't able to be used any more (or at least to me), namely the plugins etc.  There used to be hundreds, and now I can only find 20.
[05:24] <Speiros> mozammel Have you tried going to "computer" and seeing if it turns up under there?
[05:26]  * Sean_McG frustrated with 16.04 as well
[05:26] <mozammel>  Computer ? I dont know where , but if I go root partition and I see ''home'' once I open home its shows me only ubuntu home folder that is my user name ''mozammel''
[05:27] <Ben64> mozammel: it probably is on another partition
[05:28] <Speiros> mozammel What Ben64 said sounds reasonable.  Maybe you can try copying the whole folder (not deleting the old one) to see if it works?  Is this a good idea anybody?  I know links will be broken.
[05:28] <mozammel>  @Ben64: no both are in same partition. /dev/sda3 mount point is /home
[05:29] <Ben64> that doesn't mean anything
[05:29] <mozammel> yes
[05:29] <mozammel> I can show you screenshot.
[05:29] <Ben64> it means you think they're both the same partition
[05:29] <mozammel> of course they are same partition.
[05:29] <Ben64> why of course
[05:30] <mozammel> when I open from live CD i can see all of 2 folder in same partition
[05:31] <mozammel> when I open /dev/sda3 partition from Live CD, I see ''@home'' & ''rana'' and inside ''@home'' I see my ubuntu home folder ''mozammel''
[05:32] <mozammel> but sadly I cant copy paste all containt of ''rana'' to ''mozammel'' because of permission issue.
[05:32] <Ben64> you see "@home" ????
[05:32] <mozammel> yes
[05:32] <Ben64> that is not normal
[05:33] <mozammel> yeah. something problem
[05:33] <mozammel> and I created another user from ubuntu, that I also see under ''@home''
[05:34] <Ben64> come back on a livecd and pastebin stuff
[05:35] <mozammel> ok
[05:35] <mozammel> I will picpaste screenshot
[05:38] <icedwater> I would have just checked the mount permissions...
[05:39] <Speiros> What are mount permissions?  Is that like why I can't open external drives on the non-admin account?
[05:40] <icedwater> Speiros: filesystems can be mounted readonly, or read-write, although that probably wasn't mozammel's issue
[05:41] <mozammel>  http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-01-03_05-37-13-3JiTklGt.png
[05:41] <mozammel> here is my screenshot from live CD
[05:41] <Speiros> I see, yeah.  What reason would one put one up for read only?  Security to prevent changes?
[05:41] <mozammel> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-01-03_05-37-46-vNjuCSE2.png
[05:41] <mozammel> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-01-03_05-37-55-3P9tfSou.png
[05:41] <mozammel> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-01-03_05-38-05-xE85kCiL.png
[05:42] <mozammel> here is my screen shot from ubuntu installation http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2017-01-03_12-05-24-0TvDTObM.png
[05:42] <Ben64> mozammel: ok go back to regular install, you did something weird
[05:42] <Ben64> and stop posting pics already
[05:43] <Speiros> It seems like you're in a non-admin account
[05:43] <mozammel> I'm on regular installation now.
[05:43] <Ben64> mozammel: ok, pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab
[05:43] <mozammel> do you have any suggestion ?
[05:43] <mozammel> ok
[05:44] <mozammel> /etc/fstab command not found
[05:44] <Ben64> it's a file
[05:45] <Speiros> Oh, I was wrong too...
[05:45] <mozammel> ok
[05:46] <mozammel> http://pastebin.com/8etAJRPa
[05:47] <Ben64> note line 17, /home is mounted from the subvolume @home
[05:47] <mozammel> yes
[05:47] <mozammel> I see
[05:47] <Ben64> i win again
[05:47] <mozammel> what I suppose to do now ?
[05:48] <Ben64> you can mount the partition somewhere and do what you want with it
[05:48] <Speiros> :)
[05:48] <mozammel> mount /dev/sda3 partition ?
[05:48] <Ben64> yes
[05:48] <mozammel> it alredy have a mount point /home
[05:49] <Ben64> no
[05:49] <Mario88cp> howdy
[05:49] <Mario88cp> I am about to install Ubuntu
[05:50] <Mario88cp> I have already disabled secure boot.
[05:50] <mozammel> Line 17 also shows it has mount point /home
[05:50] <Mario88cp> If i choose alongside windows will it put ubuntu in its own partition and
[05:50] <Ben64> mozammel: correct
[05:50] <Ben64> Mario88cp: indeed
[05:50] <mozammel> how can I mount a partition which already have a mount point, and this partition already being use.
[05:51] <Mario88cp> will it put grub on the PC or just add Ubuntu to the UEFI so where i have to just put it as 1. and if i want to use windows put it as 1?
[05:51] <Ben64> mozammel: mount it somewhere else
[05:51] <icedwater> mozammel: you could mount it again on another mount point
[05:52] <Mario88cp> does it add grub or do it put Ubuntu in UEFI boot options and just have to set ubuntu on 1. on the boot list?
[05:53] <mozammel> firstly I cant unmount it , it shows volume is busy
[05:53] <pq_pq> how to upgrade ubuntu?
[05:53] <x3r07yp3> Hi, someone speaks Spanish?
[05:53] <icedwater> Speiros: about your question, I suppose if you wanted to be sure you didn't change anything by accident...
[05:54] <icedwater> x3r07yp3: try ubuntu-es?
[05:55] <x3r07yp3> How do I come in?
[05:55] <mozammel>  @Ben64 ; icedwater ; any more suggestion ?
[05:55] <Ben64> mozammel: do what i said
[05:56] <pq_pq> how to upgrade ubuntu?
[05:56] <mozammel> but how ?
[05:56] <Ben64> pq_pq: what do you mean by upgrade
[05:56] <Ben64> mozammel: mount it in /mnt, mount it in /whocares it doesn't matter, just do it
[05:56] <ledeni> x3r07yp3, #ubuntu-es
[05:56] <Bashing-om> pq_pq: "upgrade" in what respect ?
[05:57] <icedwater> mozammel: you can mount it again elsewhere without umounting first I think
[05:57] <x3r07yp3> @ledeni ty
[05:58] <ledeni> x3r07yp3, you're welcome
[06:00] <Speiros> icedwater What is ubuntu-es?
[06:01] <Speiros> sorry mozammel I was away...I don't know much about mounting (even though I have children) and what works or not.
[06:05] <Init__One> hola
[06:06] <Speiros> icedwater What is the suggestion mate?  Sorry, I got two answers mixed up.
[06:06] <Init__One> hi there
[06:08] <CarlFK> mozammel: why do you want to mount it again?
[06:08] <sudhirkhanger> Ubuntu installer creates a swap on size as big as its RAM. Does it take hibernation into account?
[06:10] <energizer> My friend is on company wifi and would like to ssh but says his port 22 is blocked. how can he do it
[06:10] <mozammel>  I cant see my previous os (openSUSE Leap) home folder from ubuntu
[06:11] <CarlFK> mozammel: where is it currently mounted?
[06:12] <mozammel> my /dev/sda3 partition mounted as /home
[06:13] <mozammel> but but ubuntu created a subvolume @home and inside home it holds the home folder ''mozammel''
[06:13] <mozammel> here is fstab pastebin http://pastebin.com/8etAJRPa
[06:14] <mozammel> so the problem is i cant see my previous home folder ''rana'' (from my openSUSE leap os). which is at /home/rana/
[06:14] <mozammel> but all I can see if I open from Live CD
[06:15] <CarlFK> mozammel: pastebin the output of mount and df
[06:15] <hateball> energizer: Talk to his IT dept instead of trying to work around restrictions put there for a reason
[06:15] <mozammel> sorry mount and df is command ?
[06:15] <CarlFK> mozammel: 2 commands.
[06:16] <CarlFK> mozammel: looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23732220/
[06:17] <Ben64> mozammel: i already told you the solution
[06:18] <Speiros> I think mozammel needs to know HOW to do these commands.  I could be wrong, but I wouldn't have a clue of how to mount from either one of those instructions, although I know I mount.  Does it mean to do it in terminal, as a sudo user, right clicking the file, etc?
[06:19] <Speiros> This is coming from a lame ass who doesn't know the system as I've been forced to sit on my hands and do nothing so my brain doesn't have patience any more, which restricts my learning.
[06:19] <Ben64> every time i say something he just bails from the chat for 20 minutes then re-asks the same question that was already answered
[06:20] <Speiros> I saw your answer Ben64, but if I was in mozammel's shoes, I'd have asked you where do I enter this, and what are the commands, as I wouldn't know.
[06:21] <Ben64> that would be a better response than silence
[06:21] <Speiros> I'm illiterate on here, and it's frustrating that I started learning about 9 years ago, but was stifled.
[06:21] <Speiros> So back to the beginning, but no proper learning until I can get past the past, which I have to wait until the future to do.
[06:25] <mozammel> sorry Ben64, Speiros, I was a bit busy with office work. sorry for late response.
[06:26] <Speiros> mozammel All good mate.
[06:26] <mozammel>  Speiros : you are correct, I'm just a simple user, I dont know much command. so my question some time stupid, please bare with me.
[06:26] <Ben64> something like 'mount /dev/sda3 /somewhere'
[06:26] <Speiros> mozammel Ben64 and CarlFK seem to have some good suggestions.
[06:30] <Speiros> mozammel icedwater said you can probably mount it somewhere else without having to unmount it there too.
[06:34] <mozammel>  I did mount it on /StringH and I can see all folders
[06:36] <Speiros> mozammel Excellent!  Is it working now?
[06:38] <mozammel>  yes, its works, thank you so much guys. its really unusual that ubuntu created subvolume atometically...
[06:38] <Speiros> mozammel Also, what commands did you use?
[06:38] <Speiros> Top marks to Ben64, icedwater and CarlFK, plus all others on here for helping us others.
[06:39] <CarlFK> :)
[06:42] <Speiros> mozammel Yes, I don't know much about volumes and why they add sub-volumes...only guessing, but probably because it was called "Home" and was inside a home folder, but I could be wrong, as I am at times.
[06:42] <Mis-anthrope> is it possible to have / partitoin on a LV?
[06:43] <Mis-anthrope> partition*
[06:43] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope What is an LV?
[06:43] <Mis-anthrope> Logical Volume
[06:44] <Mis-anthrope> What I wanna ask is is it possible to manually partition using LVM and then have / partition on a LV at the time of installation?
[06:44] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: yes, that's one of of the options offered to you at install
[06:44] <hateball> (use full drive with LVM)
[06:45] <Mis-anthrope> but that creates arbitrary(decided by the installer) sizes for /, /boot and /swap partitions.. I wanna be abke to create these partitions with my own choice of size for each and every one of these partitions..
[06:45] <hateball> If you have multiple drives you want to pool at install it's possible you have to do the pv/lv'ing manually, I dont know about that. Only really use LVM on servers
[06:46] <Mis-anthrope> well I wanna install ubuntu server on a pc I am no longer using.. it has 2 drives and ubuntu server will be the only os on it..
[06:46] <Mis-anthrope> I will be doing a fresh install and I wanna be able to manually create a LV (using my own preferences of sizes for / and swap)... is that possible at the TIME OF INSTALLATION?
[06:47] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope I have a drive for storage, and a drive I use for Ubuntu on the same machine.  I can access the other drive from my Linux installation, if that's any help.
[06:48] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope I don't have anything apart from files on the other drive.
[06:49] <Mis-anthrope> well.. I want to MANUALLY partition the drive using LVM(i.e. create logical volumes) at the time of installation.. is that possible? I know its possible to create a physical LVM partition at install time but i wanna be able to create / and swap partitions MANUALLY at install time.. is that possible?
[06:50] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: you're given the option of manual partitioning at install time
[06:50] <Mis-anthrope> yes but I am not given the option to create Logical Volumes at install time...
[06:51] <Mis-anthrope> I am asking that is it ok to use busybox to first create the logical volumes on a drive and then install / and swap partition on the drive?
[06:51] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope I don't know about swapping partitions, as I don't understand what that means.  I can swap from the other partitions on my computer.  Maybe when loading Ubuntu, choose the last option, which is something like "Do something else", which allows you to resize partitions etc.
[06:51] <Mis-anthrope> hmm
[06:52] <Mis-anthrope> idk.. i'll try to create LV's at install time using busybox.. see where that takes me
[06:52] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope Best wishes with it.
[06:53] <Mis-anthrope> :)
[06:53] <Speiros> What does it mean to "swap" a partition?  It isn't file-swapping, is it?
[06:54] <Mis-anthrope> Its the partition for swap space..
[06:55] <Mis-anthrope> It sorta extends the virtual memory..
[06:55] <Speiros> Mis-anthrope Aah.  Yes, when I tried the swap space, there was nothing further I could do with it.
[06:55] <Mis-anthrope> okzz
[06:56] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: hmmm, perhaps there is no option for this during install any longer. Used to be possible with alternative CD but that no longer exists
[06:56] <Mis-anthrope> ikr
[06:56] <Ironic|Paul|> Listo
[06:56] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: and I only ever go with some default setup for /, then add drives and pv after install, and mount to /opt or whatever I need
[06:56] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: but there should be a way, hmmm
[06:56] <Init__One_> Ironic|Paul|:  a por fin jajaja!
[06:56] <Mis-anthrope> There is a way
[06:56] <Speiros> Yeah...
[06:56] <Mis-anthrope> I am working on it
[06:56] <Ironic|Paul|> There are so many users...
[06:57] <Mis-anthrope> Will keep you fellers posted :p
[06:57] <Speiros> :)
[06:57] <Ironic|Paul|> Speiros: I have seen you.
[06:57] <Init__One_> Ironic|Paul|:  speak inglishh che
[06:57] <Speiros> Ironic|Paul| Okay, where abouts mate?
[06:57] <Init__One_> mate?
[06:58] <Speiros> Init__One_ "Mate" means "amigo" here in austalia
[06:58] <Ironic|Paul|> Init_one I am speaking now, don't go to bed.
[06:58] <Init__One_> friends mate? jaaaa
[06:58] <Speiros> Init__One_ Yep.
[06:59] <Ironic|Paul|> Speiros: Init_one brought me in here, nice to meet you.
[06:59] <Init__One_> is 4 am o'clock , i have sleep
[06:59] <bivo> How can I compress a 27Mb video clip to fit inside of facebook's 25Mb IM clip limit?
[06:59] <Ironic|Paul|> Init_one: I hope we will be in touch, right?
[07:00] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: isnt there an option to config LVM at all, if you use manual partitioning? I havent installed server fresh in ages
[07:00]  * hateball grabs an ISO
[07:01] <Ironic|Paul|> Inti_one: Hi there!
[07:02]  * Mis-anthrope snatches ISO from hateball
[07:02] <Mis-anthrope> I said I am working on it :/
[07:03] <Speiros> lol
[07:03] <Sean_McG> ...
[07:03] <Ironic|Paul|> Speiros: lol
[07:06] <CarlFK> how do I restart dnsmasq, and where does it log?  I am trying to use it for dhcp too, and it doesnt' seem to be doing that
[07:07] <Speiros> Another question...why isn't my computer recognising Timidity, although I have it installed, and on top of that, the video player won't play them, and doesn't give me any options for searching for files when it scans to see if there is something to play it?
[07:08] <Speiros> Sorry CarlFK
[07:09] <CarlFK> bivo: you want to re-encode it (aka transcode) with a lower bit rate and or resolution (so you will lose quality)
[07:10] <CarlFK> bivo: gstreamer can do it.  exactly how depends on what you are starting with and what you want to sacrifice (res, quality, fps...)
[07:10] <CarlFK> Speiros: wut?
[07:11] <bivo> CarlFK, yes, but transmageddon takes too much quality from an already low quality clip, and theres no option to get it as close to the 25Mb limit without losing too much quality
[07:11] <Speiros> sudhirkhanger I believe you can adjust the size of the swap size on install.
[07:12] <Speiros> bivo Can you cut out anything from the video?
[07:13] <Speiros> CarlFK No, nothing mate, I just questioned immediately after you buddy :)
[07:14] <Init__One_> Speiros channel inglish en pv , please
[07:14] <CarlFK> Speiros: no worries.  this is a pretty active channel - there are often a few conversations going on at the same time.
[07:14] <Speiros> CarlFK :)
[07:15] <Speiros> bivo I use Openshot Video Editor for my video clips, if that helps.
[07:15] <Speiros> bivo I find it slow, but extremely useful.
[07:16] <CarlFK> I like Openshot
[07:17] <Speiros> CarlFK Yeah, it's very good.  I used to use I think it's Pitivi, but it had problems.
[07:17] <oniichan1> hello
[07:19] <oniichan1> is anyone in here
[07:19] <Speiros> Hi oniichan1.  Lots of people, but the channel is specifically for addressing computer issues.  How are you, and what needs help with (someone will be able to help you hopefully)?
[07:20] <icedwater> oniichan1: Speiros: actually, primarily Ubuntu issues :P
[07:20] <Speiros> icedwater Good point mate.
[07:21] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: far as I can tell the installer lets me create PVs and then also config LV, so...
[07:21] <Speiros> hateball Interesting...and good to know.
[07:22] <oniichan1> icedwater : can't you speak indonesia language
[07:22] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: how? are you on the partitioning phase?
[07:22] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: Yes. Choose manual
[07:22] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: because there, you can only create a pv
[07:22] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: I did..
[07:22] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: there's an option for "configure LVM"
[07:22] <icedwater> oniichan1: I can speak some Bahasa. But if you need help here, you need to ask in English.
[07:23] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: this was using 16.04 btw
[07:23] <Speiros> oniichan1 Sometimes if a person is from another language, it is possible to use google translate, although this isn't 100% clear.
[07:23] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: will get back to you in a minute
[07:23] <Speiros> oniichan1 There is indonesian to english there.
[07:23] <ducasse> !id | oniichan1
[07:23] <oniichan1> icedwater : oke, thanks
[07:24] <Speiros> ducasse Cool link.
[07:24] <icedwater> ducasse: I checked, it's pretty quiet, I don't know if it is actually active.
[07:24] <oniichan1> ubottu : oke gan
[07:24] <icedwater> oniichan1: ubottu is a bot, don't talk to it :p
[07:25] <SerialDev> yeah, the 'u-bot-tu' part should clue us all in, ha
[07:25] <oniichan1> icedwater : oke sir, you use ubuntu or kali linux
[07:26] <oniichan1> hahha
[07:26] <icedwater> oniichan1: I use Ubuntu 16.04
[07:26]  * Phanes would just like to reiterate that there are 0 linux distributions, even major ones, that are compliant with a modern LSB version......
[07:27] <Speiros> Phanes what is LSB?
[07:27] <oniichan1> icedwater : sodusuka
[07:27] <icedwater> !lsb
[07:27] <icedwater> Heh, didn't know that worked. Thanks ubottu!
[07:27] <Speiros> lol
[07:27] <Phanes> Speiros, it's apparently an agreed upon standard for everyone to ignore
[07:28] <icedwater> Phanes: touche
[07:28] <Speiros> Phanes lol, fair enough.
[07:28] <SerialDev> yeah, every individual linux distro thinks their stuff is better
[07:28] <tinfoil_hat> has anyone the source code of the bot?
[07:29] <Speiros> tinfoil_hat...I might tell you if you take your hat off (prepares to read thoughts).
[07:29] <Speiros> tinfoil_hat I don't know man.
[07:29] <Phanes> icedwater, maybe that should be the 'not completed anywhere else' purpose i was supposed to find for my excuse to do an LFS build
[07:29] <someone235> Hi, after I restart lightdm, I try to login again, and then a new session is started, instead of getting back to the old one. Someone knows how can I prevent it?
[07:29] <Phanes> "Is actually compliant with existing Linux standards"
[07:30] <tinfoil_hat> I can make you a tinfoil_at too if you want :)
[07:30] <Speiros> tinfoil_hat How did you know I didnt have one?  Are you reading my brain?
[07:30] <tinfoil_hat> maybe it's not working
[07:30] <Speiros> :)
[07:30] <icedwater> someone235: I think if you restart lightdm, you have killed the existing session...
[07:31] <CarlFK> tinfoil_hat: yes, it is on launchpad somewhere
[07:31] <icedwater> Phanes: is LFS LSB-compatible?
[07:31] <ducasse> someone235: restarting lightdm kills the x server
[07:31] <someone235> icedwater, the thing is, I still see processes from my older session
[07:31] <icedwater> Hmm, on that note I guess I can expect not to be able to use lsb_release -r next time...
[07:31] <Phanes> icedwater, yes it is
[07:32] <icedwater> someone235: yes, because only the graphical stuff is restarted, I think.
[07:32] <tinfoil_hat> CarlFK: sauce äähm source ääähm link?
[07:32] <someone235> actually what I wanted to do is just restart my mouse, cuz it was stuck in drag and drop mode. Someone know of a better solution for this?
[07:33] <Phanes> actually that would be a BAMF thing to do is release an alpha that's fully FHS 3 and LSB 5 compliant and certified, it would literally be the only entry on either list as of today
[07:33] <Speiros> someone235 Isn't there an option on the GUI, under settings for mouse contols?
[07:33] <ducasse> someone235: try switching to console and back. ctrl+alt+f1, ctrl+alt+f7
[07:33] <tinfoil_hat> nevermind, found it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[07:33] <someone235> ducasse, yes, tried that. It didn't help
[07:33] <icedwater> someone235: that's interesting. Do you mean a USB mouse, or a touchpad on a laptop?
[07:33] <Speiros> someone235 I see, it doesn't have that option.
[07:34] <someone235> icedwater, usb
[07:34] <someone235> icedwater, but I think it's software related. not related to the real mouse
[07:34] <tinfoil_hat> CarlFK, thanks for the tip with launchpad
[07:34] <icedwater> I'm assuming unplugging and re-attaching the mouse didn't work. *nods* I was just curious, because touchpads could be a little tougher to debug
[07:34] <CarlFK> tinfoil_hat: did you find it?  I haven't started looking yet
[07:35] <tinfoil_hat> CarlFK, yes i found it, posted the link above
[07:35] <dsnyders> Happy new year all!  Occasionally, when I wake my machine from suspend, all I get is a black screen with a mouse pointer on it.  I can ssh to the machine, but nothing seems to be consuming excessive resources.  Any ideas why my machine won't wake up fully?
[07:35] <ducasse> someone235: unload and reload the kernel module?
[07:36] <icedwater> oniichan: did you join ubuntu-id and leave it?
[07:36] <someone235> ducasse, with modprobe?
[07:36] <ducasse> someone235: yep, or rmmod/insmod.
[07:36] <someone235> yes, tried that. Didn't help
[07:36] <someone235> restarting lightdm was the only thing that helped
[07:37] <jakst> is this the right channel to ask for assistance with data recovery with Linux Raid 5 / LVM ?
[07:37] <UbuntuDude> I'm not sure what just happened at the last second of xenial installation on a partition next to windows 7! .. the system boots showing only windows while I was expecting the ordinary grub boot menu! How can reinstall grub from live-USB to fix the problem? win7 on /dev/sd1 , swap on /dev/sda2 , xenial root on /dev/sda3
[07:37] <icedwater> dsnyders: maybe try to restart the X server, or lightdm? I don't know if you can find some logs to check...
[07:37] <icedwater> jakst: usually no, but if you're desperate / patient enough some people here might have some clues eventually.
[07:37] <icedwater> jakst: I guess you're using Ubuntu, at least?
[07:38] <icedwater> !lvm
[07:38] <jakst> Yeah it's on ubuntu
[07:39] <icedwater> jakst: you might get some help here, then. I don't use RAID myself, so I can't say. I hope someone else can help.
[07:40] <icedwater> someone: Hmm, someone235 left
[07:40] <icedwater> (I meant to ask, did you rename?)
[07:40] <jakst> Well I've got some failed arrays  that I'd like to see if I can recover
[07:40] <ducasse> jakst: better to try #ubuntu-server, maybe
[07:41] <jakst> Oh thanks, I'll try that
[07:41] <ducasse> jakst: might be quiet there for another hour or so.
[07:42] <icedwater> ducasse: How do you know, are they mostly Europe-based?
[07:42] <jakst> ducasse: Well Iäll just hang around through the day :)
[07:42] <Speiros> UbuntuDude I don't know what reinstall grub means mate, but is it possible to change the parameters so it reads your USB on boot, and run it from there?
[07:42] <ducasse> icedwater: many of the regulars are, as they work for canonical.
[07:43] <icedwater> UbuntuDude: hmm, I can't remember if it's enough to just grub-install /dev/sda
[07:44] <icedwater> ducasse: good to know, thanks!
[07:45] <mozammel> is there anybody successfully able to print from LBP2900 printer in ubuntu 16.10 ? I need help.
[07:46] <icedwater> mozammel: I guess you solved the mount issue from before?
[07:47] <UbuntuDude> Speiros: reinstalling grub means what icedwater just mentioned above. the thing is I don't think grub was installed which is why on the system reboot win7 take control immediately and no bootmenu appears
[07:47] <UbuntuDude> I'll try that and keep you posted .. ty
[07:48] <Speiros> UbuntuDude Are you able to change the order on the BIOS for what opens first in priority?  Just remember so you can change it back.
[07:48] <oniichan> help me
[07:49] <ducasse> !ask | oniichan
[07:49] <Speiros> UbuntuDude I see.  When it opens, a very quick reminder of what keys can be held down (I think it's F9, but could be wrong) on boot up to go into BIOS menu.
[07:50] <UbuntuDude> Speiros: both partitions on the same hdd .. no need to change to bios boot sequence because I can manually do during the post using F11
[07:50] <oniichan> obutto : i am sorry
[07:50] <Speiros> UbuntuDude Ah, okay.
[07:50] <Speiros> UbuntuDude Anything past that is out of my knowledge range.  Sorry man:)
[07:51] <ducasse> oniichan: no need to be sorry, but we can't help unless you ask a question :)
[07:51] <ducasse> UbuntuDude: is this an uefi system?
[07:51] <Speiros> !patience
[07:51] <oniichan> ducasse : ok, i am understand
[07:52] <mozammel>  @icedwater : yes some how it solved.
[07:52] <Speiros> oniichan What do you need help with?
[07:53] <mozammel> I'm getting error while installation and configure LBP2900 printer, install instructuction from github
[07:53] <UbuntuDude> ducasse: nah.... it's a 32bit fossil
[07:54] <mozammel> here is the error : install.mk:7: recipe for target 'register_printer' failed ; make: *** [register_printer] Error 3
[07:55] <icedwater> mozammel: ah, OK.
[07:55] <oniichan> Speiros : can't you tell me about how to make sricp php
[07:56] <Speiros> oniichan Not me personally, as I don't know, but somebody in the room might know.
[07:56] <icedwater> mozammel: which instructions are you following?   It's the wrong page to be asking though.  http://www.w3schools.com/
[07:59] <oniichan> icedwater : yes, but very difficult
[07:59] <UbuntuDude> oniichan: if you're -18 .. ignore what i said
[07:59] <fallen_> hai friends iam new dfor linux .please help me how to use it ...
[07:59] <ducasse> !ohmy | UbuntuDude
[07:59] <oniichan> speiros : thankyou very much
[07:59] <fallen_> help me please
[08:00] <fallen_> iam new ine to linux
[08:00] <Speiros> UbuntuDude Mate, what questions you ask and don't get responded to like that, and neither do I man.
[08:00] <icedwater> fallen_: which Linux are you using?
[08:00] <ducasse> !manual | fallen_
[08:00] <fallen_> backbox4.6
[08:00] <icedwater> ducasse: your bot-fu is strong. :P
[08:00] <Speiros> lol
[08:01] <oniichan> UbuntuDude : yes i will try to learn to make scripts php
[08:01] <ducasse> icedwater: easier than typing a full response to everything that gets asked all the time :)
[08:01] <fallen_> please tell me how to use it please
[08:01] <fallen_> i want to learn it
[08:01] <oniichan> fallen : you use for what?
[08:02] <ducasse> fallen_: we don't support backbox, but try http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[08:02] <Phanes> how is ubuntu managing LSB compliance currently?  are they just bundling all LSB applications into one metapackage and dropping it in
[08:03] <mozammel> any help guys regarding LBP2900 installation error please ?
[08:04] <ducasse> Phanes: there are a couple of lsb packages left for basic support, but most of them have been dropped (following debian's lead)
[08:04] <oniichan> can't help to fix error ssh in kali linux?
[08:04] <Phanes> ducasse, do you know why that is happening
[08:04] <zhou_xingyu> hello everyone.May I ask how to use zfs in ubuntu16
[08:05] <icedwater> mozammel: hang on, we are all volunteers here. :)
[08:05] <Ben64> mozammel: best to ask an actual detailed question
[08:05] <Ben64> !kali | oniichan
[08:05] <ducasse> Phanes: because no distro actually maintains uptodate, full support anymore.
[08:05] <Phanes> zhou_xingyu, make a filesystem.  format it as ZFS.  mount it.
[08:05] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: what do you want to knpw?
[08:06] <Phanes> ducasse, that's going to change in less than a year btw
[08:06] <icedwater> Ben64: there was one - mozammel listed an error while trying to run a Makefile earlier...
[08:06] <mozammel>  @ Ben64; yes of course. always appriciated.
[08:06] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse: I install ubuntu in a 268G disk. so I want to change it into zfs.
[08:06] <ducasse> Phanes: good, if it happens.
[08:06] <oniichan> ubottu : i am sorry :)
[08:07] <mozammel> http://pastebin.com/ue8xzxme   here is output
[08:07] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: you can't, zfs is only supported for data storage.
[08:07] <zhou_xingyu> Phanes: can I change my ext4 system into zfs?
[08:07] <Ben64> icedwater: that doesn't make that undetailed question ok
[08:07] <Ben64> zhou_xingyu: no
[08:07] <Speiros> Can a file system be changed while there are files in it?
[08:07] <Ben64> Speiros: no
[08:07] <Speiros> Ah, thanks Ben64.
[08:07] <zhou_xingyu> thank you very much
[08:08] <oniichan> ubottu : hai, wakata. mou daijoubu
[08:08] <icedwater> Ben64: there were some details in there, to be fair.
[08:08] <Speiros> zhu_xingyu It looks like you will have to remove the files first, then make the file system you choose, but as ducasse has said, it means you'll need somewhere else to have your operating system.
[08:09] <Ben64> icedwater: no
[08:09] <zhou_xingyu> By the way ,I just get stuck in gui,so I poweroff the linux by pressing and holding the power menu.
[08:09] <icedwater> Ben64: they were not the most helpful details, but they were there.
[08:09] <Speiros> Sorry, that last comment was addressed to zhou_xingyu.
[08:10] <icedwater> mozammel: you should provide more details, as Ben64 suggests.
[08:10] <Ben64> icedwater: which was my whole point
[08:10] <zhou_xingyu> May I ask whether it will hurt the filesystem of linux?
[08:10] <Ben64> icedwater: i don't see why you need to comment on everything
[08:10] <mozammel> I'm trying to install driver for my printer LBP2900, and following https://github.com/hugolpz/Canon_printer this instruction, but I stuck with some error here is error out put http://pastebin.com/ue8xzxme  im on ubuntu 16.10,
[08:10] <icedwater> Ben64: I don't :)
[08:11] <icedwater> But mozammel already pointed out there was an error, and I was going to find out more from them.
[08:11] <Ben64> mozammel: unfortunately you're on your own if you choose to do stuff outside of the normal ubuntu ecosystem
[08:11] <Speiros> That is one way, zhou-xingyu, but you can also hold Ctrl Alt Delete, or Esc.  It means you may lose any work you've been working on, although an auto recovery seems to work MOST (not all) of the time.
[08:11] <zhou_xingyu> I just spend one hour to do fsck in livecd.Find none error
[08:11] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: you were right.. I should proll get glasses and some cut off my red bull :/
[08:12] <hateball> Mis-anthrope: So it goes, the main thing is you got it sorted :)
[08:12] <ducasse> mozammel: try contacting the maintainer of the github repo or file an issue
[08:12] <Mis-anthrope> hateball: thanks :)
[08:13] <icedwater> mozammel: you can get help here as long as you're using a regular Ubuntu install - everyone has issues with custom hardware they might need help with every now and then.
[08:13] <mozammel>  I dont know how its outside of normal ubuntu ecosystem, I'm trying to make my printer work, and for my understanding its very basic need.
[08:13] <icedwater> Just don't expect experts in every field, and have a little patience :)
[08:13] <Ben64> mozammel: you're running commands from some random github, there's no way we can support that here
[08:13] <mozammel> yeah.. of course.
[08:14] <zhou_xingyu> Speirors: Thank you.May i know what is the different between the Ctrl+Alt+Sys_RQ resiub and ctrl+alt+delete
[08:14] <icedwater> mozammel: I don't understand where your problem is - the makefile seems to have stopped after ccpd service status
[08:14] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu I don't know, sorry.
[08:15] <ducasse> Speiros: the first is sent directly to the kernel, the second to systemd/logind
[08:15] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: Did you try switching to a TTY (ctrl+alt+f1) and log in to do a clean shutdown? Or does the machine freeze up totally?
[08:15] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: ^^
[08:15] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros: thank you very much.
[08:15] <Speiros> ducasse Excellent.  Thanks mate.
[08:15] <Anant> hello, I am getting the error "Bad header line" while I am trying to update
[08:15] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: yes i do,but failed
[08:15] <mozammel>  actually I'm not the person to often bother expert without digging.. I did dig a lot about it and try many way. but really not able to work. so my last hope is here becuase I can discuss in realtime. and show problem in realtime.. but really thankfull all you guys for your time.
[08:15] <Anant> anybody can help me
[08:16] <icedwater> mozammel: stick around a while more, you might get some help yet.
[08:16] <Speiros> mozammel I have had printer problems in the past, but as I don't currently use one I don't know how to help man.  Someone will be able to help over time though.
[08:16] <ducasse> Anant: pastebin the *full* output
[08:16] <Anant> how to solve the error "bad header line" during updating
[08:16] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: I cannot open terminal and cannot open tty too.So my last choice is just hold the power menu.>::<
[08:17] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: does ctrl+alt+sysrq reisub work?
[08:17] <mozammel>  yes. after ccpd.service there is some problem, beofre it was giving me dependancy error that libpng12-0 missing, I did download and install and its come upto ccpd
[08:17] <Anant> how to solve the error "bad header line" during updating. Is it critical error?    do it make a problem in installing android stk
[08:17] <mozammel> @Speiros: yes. may be some one already did solved same problem.
[08:18] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu What happened so that you can't open terminal?  Do you remember the first time it happened?
[08:18] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse: I don't know ,I know the reisub command after I do it and google.
[08:18] <ducasse> Anant: i asked you to pastebin the output.
[08:18] <Anant> hello, I am getting the error "Bad header line" while I am trying to update. anybody can help me.....how to solve the error "bad header line" during updating. Is it critical error?    do it make a problem in installing android sdk
[08:19] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: try  it, if that doesn't work it means the kernel has frozen. if it does work it is a much cleaner way of shutting down.
[08:19] <Anant> Ign:15 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Ign:16 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Ign:17 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Err:11 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons   Bad header line Ign:12 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe
[08:19] <ducasse> !paste | Anant
[08:19] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros: I just run the aircrack and try to crack into my own wifi,,and I want to quit the crack but Ctrl+c does not work.So I cloesd the terminal and then ubuntu get stuck
[08:20] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu Ok, thanks for that.  It's good to know what caused it in the first place, so that it can be looked at from those who know about those systems.
[08:20] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse: thank you.I am new to linux.I am still learning the linux operation system
[08:20] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: you should examine your logfiles, if something gets dumped prior to your kernel freezing
[08:21] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: thank you ,I will google it and find the logfile
[08:21] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: and if you're triggering it by running aircrack, it's probably a wireless module that doesnt like to run in promiscuous mode
[08:21] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: what wifi chipset/driver are you using?
[08:21] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: "lspci -k"
[08:21] <icedwater> mozammel: I can't seem to find any error in your pastebin, it looks like every step in the makefile worked. What happens when you try to run sudo service ccpd status on its own?
[08:22] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: thank you.maybe broadcom.Let me check the log.
[08:22] <Anant> Ign:15 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Ign:16 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Ign:17 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata Err:11 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons   Bad header line Ign:12 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe
[08:22] <Anant> http://imgur.com/pvRr13L
[08:22] <Speiros> How do I stop someone who is no longer in the room, but is whispering me?
[08:23] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[08:23] <zhou_xingyu> 	Subsystem: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
[08:23] <zhou_xingyu> 	Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge
[08:23] <zhou_xingyu> 	Kernel modules: bcma
[08:23] <Anant> UBOTTU: I have posted the screenshot
[08:23] <zhou_xingyu> sorry for too much message at the same time
[08:24] <icedwater> Speiros: fallen__?
[08:24] <Speiros> icedwater Yes.
[08:24] <icedwater> They're messaging me too, you can /ignore if you want I think?
[08:24] <Speiros> Ok, thanks.
[08:25] <Anant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23732519/plain/
[08:25] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: when i run this command sudo aircrack-ng -w dict1.txt longas-01.ivs,the aircrack start to calculate the password and use high cpu.So i want to end it .I close the terminal and the terminal says it will kill the process so i do it.
[08:26] <Anant> Can anybody help me to figure it out?
[08:26] <icedwater> !patience | Anant
[08:26] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: and then the gui broke and nothing can do .including the mouse ,terminal tty,
[08:27] <hateball> Anant: Probably something wrong with that mirror, try pointing to something like the UK or AU
[08:27] <Anant> I have searched everywhere but I didn'd got the solution
[08:27] <Ben64> Anant: you didn't try what you were told last night
[08:27] <icedwater> mozammel: can you run sudo service ccpd status and then echo $? immediately after that to see what error code is returned?
[08:28] <zhou_xingyu> Anant: maybe you should other mirrors
[08:28] <icedwater> zhou_xingyu: what other processes were started from that terminal you killed?
[08:28] <Anant> I have internet connection with library proxy and I cann't update from GUI also
[08:28] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: Afraid I don't know what could be wrong, but if your machine works fine otherwise and only displays this behavior when running aircrack... well then it's probably the wifi card/module. So that gives you something to google at least...
[08:30] <zhou_xingyu> icedwater: I open the new terminal to do the aircrack.so I don't know other process.
[08:30] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: thank you.I  think it's a good chance to read the logfiles of linux
[08:33] <priporg> Hi, the desktop icons in Ubuntu are not all the same size. For example, the pdf icon is much larger than folder, text, and other icons. It looks strange. Can someone tell devs to fix it up thanks.
[08:33] <icedwater> mozammel: actually, now that you have the PPD for your printer, why don't you try specifying that in the Add Printer dialogue?
[08:33] <mozammel> @icedwater:  http://pastebin.com/4ZTzuJJq
[08:33] <ducasse> priporg: file a bug
[08:33] <icedwater> priporg: you can actually resize the icons to any size you like :p Maybe it's just a problem of the theme you're using?
[08:33] <hateball> zhou_xingyu: I'd suggest you keep an eye on "tail -f /var/log/dmesg" and syslog while you're running aircrack, if the driver spits out any info before everything dies
[08:34] <priporg> icedwater, using default theme.
[08:34] <zhou_xingyu> hateball: thank you very much
[08:34] <priporg> icedwater, you can try creating a pdf icon and see for yourself.
[08:35] <Speiros> priporg What is the problem with them being different sizes?  Is it something different from any other versions of Ubuntu you've used?
[08:35] <mozammel> @icedwater : there is a printer also added on printer setting, but if i try to print a test page it shows ''Idle -ccp send_data error, exit''
[08:36] <icedwater> priporg: well, the PDF specifically tries to give document preview, so I think it's more a feature than a bug. Unfortunately this does mean they have to be a different size from the other icons...
[08:36] <priporg> Speiros, this is the only version of Ubuntu I've used.
[08:36] <Speiros> mozammel Have you been able to configure that printer, or is it not able to be done?
[08:36] <Anant> hello, I am getting the error "Bad header line" while I am trying to update. anybody can help me.....how to solve the error "bad header line" during updating. Is it critical error?    do it make a problem in installing android sdk... I have tried "sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update" and after that I cann't open ubuntu software centre. it starts and close automatically
[08:37] <Speiros> priporg Okay.  Maybe it is just a matter of getting used to a new system.  I've been a user, although with little knowledge, since 2008, and I'm not going back to any of the commercial rubbish.
[08:37] <icedwater> Anant: apparently you asked a similar question last night, as Ben64 suggests? Did the advice there help?
[08:38] <Speiros> priporg When I first started out, I  was uncomfortable, as all my education was done on a Windows system.  Still, now I'm set for Linux.
[08:38] <icedwater> For your current issue I would try to run ubuntu software centre from the command line and see if any error messages pop up
[08:38] <priporg> icedwater, in my opinion there is no point in having a preview - it's too small to see anything meaningful. Documents for example don't have previews. Different size desktop icons looks wrong ...again in my opinion.
[08:39] <icedwater> priporg: It is a valid opinion, I'm not sure if there is a way to turn off the preview, though.
[08:39] <Speiros> priporg Still, as icedwater suggested, if you right-click on your icons, you can resize the icons manually.
[08:39] <icedwater> Speiros: it isn't a good idea if you have to resize 20 PDFs each time though :p
[08:39] <zhou_xingyu> Anant: So you cannot update the system?
[08:39] <priporg> Speiros, I resized it manually now to fix the issue, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.
[08:40] <Speiros> icedwater True.
[08:40] <Speiros> priporg Ok.
[08:40] <Ben64> Anant: http://sprunge.us/gJAh
[08:41] <priporg> Speiros, I won't be going back to commercial stuff either :)
[08:41] <mozammel>  Speiros : not able to make it work yet.
[08:42] <Speiros> priporg No, they've made their money off freeware for long enough.
[08:42] <Speiros> mozammel Are you able to configure it in the settings though?  The actual printer that you mentioned was there?
[08:43] <priporg> Speiros, sure but to be fair linux didn't have a mature GUI for the masses to adopt until recently.
[08:45] <Anant> zhou_xingyu: yeah, I can upadate but some of the packages can not download
[08:46] <zhou_xingyu> Anant: so I suggest you to change the mirror source lists
[08:46] <Ben64> Anant: http://sprunge.us/gJAh
[08:46] <Anant> zhou_xingyu: but I don't know how to change the mirror
[08:46] <cfhowlett> !mirror | Anant
[08:46] <Ben64> now finally you listen
[08:47] <zhou_xingyu> Anant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197564/how-do-i-add-a-line-to-my-etc-apt-sources-list
[08:47] <Speiros> priporg Fair enough, as I didn't know of it, let alone Ubuntu since 2008.
[08:47] <Speiros> Sorry, 2007
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !repos
[08:48] <Anant> ok thank you... and guys don't need to laugh at me I am new to ubuntu and facing error at first time
[08:48] <icedwater> Anant: we are always learning, and we were all new once :)
[08:48] <priporg> icedwater, so you're a pro now?
[08:48] <Speiros> Anant I've been using this since 2008 and am still a novice.  How do you think I feel.lol
[08:49] <icedwater> priporg: no, just less new :)
[08:49] <icedwater> Time passes, regardless of how much experience you accrue along the way :P
[08:49] <zhou_xingyu> Anant: you are welcome
[08:50] <Speiros> icedwater In the words of Stan Laurel, "It certainly does, Ollie"
[08:50] <priporg> icedwater, you are wise because you listen and understand my problem :)
[08:50] <mozammel>  yes I can configure, but status is stopped. I think this printer is impossible to configure in ubuntu
[08:50] <icedwater> priporg: don't praise me, my head explodes. :p
[08:51] <icedwater> But I'm curious - there should be a way to disable PDF previews so that you get some kind of generic icon
[08:51] <Speiros> mozammel Can you make it run; or if that doesn't work (try it first), can you delete it, and then re-add it?
[08:51] <icedwater> Maybe someone else here knows how to turn off PDF document preview in, say, Nautilus?
[08:51] <priporg> icedwater, not sure if that problem is created by libre office or ubuntu...
[08:52] <icedwater> (...so I can get back to work :P)
[08:52] <icedwater> priporg: I would suspect it's a desktop manager setting
[08:52] <Speiros> icedwater When I open files, I can use the dropdown "View" and choose icon or list.
[08:52] <icedwater> I came here to ask for help about the datetime panel and troubleshoot my gnome-terminal issues... but I learned so much by hanging around :P
[08:52] <mariohihi> Would Ubuntu be the right system for me?
[08:52] <priporg> icedwater, who knows ....not me :)
[08:52] <oniichan> exit
[08:53] <icedwater> mariohihi: I'd say yes, but I'm biased. :p
[08:53] <cfhowlett> mariohihi, errrrrrrr, yes?
[08:53] <mozammel> @Speiros : I have tried all combination actually. and also try to install different version of that driver. nothing works.
[08:53] <ghostal> i'm using xenial, and am getting a little confused about the mailutils package. what MTA does it provide? i've been messing about install and removing it, and seem to get different results
[08:53] <mariohihi> I'm on windows 8.1 and i am stuck on this as this laptop don't support windows 10.. the downloadable start menu's suck and don't work as good...
[08:53] <priporg> icedwater, just go back to work. my problem isn't big enough to warrant a fix just yet.
[08:53] <Speiros> mariohihi  Id say yes too, but what are you planning on using your computer for?  Gaming, work?
[08:54] <mariohihi> Speiros Gaming, and every day web browsing.
[08:54] <Speiros> mozammel Sorry to hear that mate.  Can I just confirm that you've tried to delete this printer already?
[08:54] <CarlFK> mariohihi: If you have to ask, Ubuntu is a good place to start
[08:54] <Speiros> mariohihi I'm unsure if it is ideal yet with Canonical for gaming (I use xbox), but for everything else, it is fantastic.
[08:54] <ghostal> sometimes i get postfix configuration screens, sometimes not
[08:54] <cfhowlett> mariohihi, you can ask random internetz people who don't know you or your specific needs and preferences OR you could get the ubuntu .iso, make a bootable USB and actually TEST ubuntu for yourelf.
[08:54] <mozammel>  yes, I did delete and again add
[08:55] <CarlFK> mariohihi: read "which distro" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten
[08:55] <priporg> another big issue with linux is driver compatibility issues. you get a lot of new guys coming in here for a fix :)
[08:55] <mozammel> this is the error this time ''Idle - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocapt" not available: No such file or directory''
[08:56] <icedwater> priporg: true.
[08:56] <Speiros> mozammel Okay.  Sorry again that it's reached frustration level.  There are settings, but you mentioned it said "status is stopped".  Have you been able to unchange that?
[08:57] <Speiros> mozammel That last message you typed means that you're missing a file, or it's not where the computer is expecting it to be.
[08:57] <mozammel> @ Speiros: every time I try new driver and new method to install, its shows different error but result actually same, not printing.
[08:57] <mozammel> yes
[08:58] <mozammel> but I have no idea from where and how to bring it in place.
[08:58] <ledeni> mozammel, which printer i mean model
[08:59] <mozammel> Canon LBP2900
[08:59] <Speiros> mozammel Yes, they can be frustrating.  If the file is somewhere else, I can only suggest what I'd do, and it includes a pen and paper.  I'd search for the file, and if I find it, I'd write where it is, and what is with it.  Then I'd look at where the computer is saying it is looking.  Then I'd copy and paste those files there in the correct file order.  I don't think I'd delete the other files though, in case they're bei
[08:59] <Speiros> ng used by the kernel.
[09:00] <Cust0sLimen> hi
[09:00] <icedwater> Cust0sLimen: hi
[09:00] <Cust0sLimen> what does ubuntu 16.10 do for networking by default ?
[09:00] <Cust0sLimen> networkd or networkmanager ?
[09:01] <icedwater> Good question, hopefully someone using 16.10 can answer. :p
[09:01] <ducasse> Cust0sLimen: network manager.
[09:01] <Cust0sLimen> thanks ducasse
[09:02] <mozammel>  I will try your method too.
[09:02] <Speiros> mozammel I hope it works, but writing it down is so if it doesn't, it can be removed again.
[09:02] <Speiros> mozammel Therefore, write down where you paste them, if it happens.
[09:03] <icedwater> Speiros: yeah, a clean removal will help a lot, I suppose. I would prefer to redirect the output of, say, some find command into a text file, but as long as I don't have transparency in my gnome-terminal back yet I'll have to use pen and paper :P
[09:04] <Speiros> icedwater And if the pen and paper fail, they're easier to throw:)
[09:06] <icedwater> Speiros: yeah, I have a lot of text files that I don't remember making :p
[09:06] <lasersaber> i cant seem to play a video on here http://southpark.cc.com/clips/104439/anonymous-question-box
[09:07] <lasersaber> any idea why?
[09:07] <Speiros> lasersaber What system are you using?
[09:08] <lasersaber> ubuntu unity
[09:08] <lasersaber> using firefox
[09:08] <lasersaber> 16.04
[09:08] <hateball> lasersaber: perhaps it requires flash, do you have that installed?
[09:09] <lasersaber> i guess because i can play youtube videos
[09:09] <Speiros> lasersaber Do you have any other script blockers installed, or website blockers?
[09:10] <icedwater> lasersaber: YouTube changed to HTML5 at some point, I've been led to think..
[09:10] <zhou_xingyu> lasersaber: you may try chrome stable
[09:10] <lasersaber> no luck with chrome
[09:10] <zhou_xingyu> icedwater: yes ,youtube is html5
[09:10] <lasersaber> hmm i do have adblock but i disabled it for that page
[09:11] <lasersaber> i might need to completely disable adblock
[09:11] <Unhammer> I don't suppose anyone's tried the ASUS UX310UA with Ubuntu? I'm wondering if it's normal that the fans are on more than they are off (even when fairly idle in Xubuntu), or if it's maybe something I can fix with some powersaving settings or whatnot
[09:12] <hateball> lasersaber: youtube uses html5 to play video for the most part. guessing isnt very helpful, so instead you could go to "about://plugins" and see if flash is listed
[09:12] <ledeni> mozammel, try ---> http://pastebin.com/mv0uaGXc
[09:13] <mozammel>  Okay now I also try your method and found the missing file which is in lib64 and copid to lib and now when I test print, its processing for ever.. final result is '' not printing''
[09:13] <Speiros> lasersaber It wouldn't open for me either, but I've got blockers, but after undoing them one by one, it still wouldn't open.
[09:14] <cfhowlett> hateball, not about:plugins       ??
[09:14] <Speiros> mozammel Ok.  Is it wireless or connected by a wire?
[09:15] <hateball> cfhowlett: you are correct, fingers faster than brain :p
[09:15] <lasersaber> about://plugins didn't work
[09:15] <hateball> lasersaber: "about:plugins" like cfhowlett said
[09:15] <lasersaber> no //
[09:15] <Speiros> :)
[09:15] <lasersaber> ok
[09:15] <lasersaber> :)
[09:16] <mozammel> @Speiros : connected by USB cable
[09:16] <Speiros> fallen_ Did you go to another page to get the information you wanted?
[09:17] <lasersaber> http://imgur.com/a/bsC5u
[09:17] <Sheepolution> Hello
[09:18] <cfhowlett> lasersaber, SP is not playing for me either though it did previously.
[09:18] <cfhowlett> test with chromium/chrome perhaps?
[09:18] <Speiros> mozammel Ok.  So, just peddling backwards.  Your computer is now seeing the printer which is connected, yes?  Or is it possibly seeing the files, and not the printer?  If it is seeing the printer, can you now configure the printer from the settings menu?
[09:18] <lasersaber> what now? :-/
[09:19] <mozammel> yes. can see the printer
[09:19] <mozammel> when connect , it also detect that printer connected.
[09:19] <cfhowlett> lasersaber, install chrome and test it ... in case there's some kind of driver crashing
[09:19] <mozammel> but when try to print its just '' processing'' for ever, but never complete and print.
[09:20] <lasersaber> http://imgur.com/a/9iBIQ
[09:21] <Speiros> mozammel Ok.  There's progress.  Maybe in the printer settings, clear the queue of any documents that might be loaded up to print.  Are there any there?
[09:21]  * lasersaber :(
[09:22] <mozammel>  no there is no queue
[09:23] <lasersaber> cfhowlett, now what?
[09:23] <Speiros> lasersaber I just looked at the imgurl, and it is showing the video, but stating that you're not using Mozilla, which it suggests.  What happens when you use Mozilla?
[09:23] <Speiros> mozammel Ok.
[09:23] <hateball> lasersaber: was that with chromium or google chrome?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> lasersaber, did you install chrome/chromium?  fire it up and test SP playback
[09:24] <lasersaber> google chrome
[09:24] <cfhowlett> ah I see. that's something new
[09:24] <Speiros> mozammel, and that printing is the test page, yes?  Sorry if you've already said it but I'm trying to see it from your shoes.
[09:24] <lasersaber> with mozilla i get a black screen
[09:25] <hateball> Hmmm, I clicked some random video and it threw me a flash version at any rate...
[09:25] <Speiros> lasersaber I get that too, but I can change the permissions.
[09:25] <hateball> lasersaber: for some sites click-to-play flash doesnt work properly, so you could try force-allowing it via the button in the url bar
[09:26] <cfhowlett> lasersaber, nah, something weird here.  I'm dual booting.  My safari reports flash issues as well.
[09:26] <Speiros> lasersaber Actually, I just got a "goo goo good..." then changed it, so it can work.  It may be through the Mozilla browser that you've got some parts blocked.
[09:27] <Speiros> lasersaber I allowed 0914.global.ssl.fastly.net and it worked (after allowing the sites' scripts too)
[09:27] <mozammel>  yes I try test page from settings, I try nomal xcel printing, also try head cleaning. ... for all the job its just processing
[09:27] <hateball> cfhowlett: I'm running chromium with pepperflash and a video played... altho I was redirected to southpark.nu or some such
[09:28] <Speiros> mozammel Are those jobs now cancelled?
[09:28] <Sheepolution> After I kept getting the error: libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast, I updated my nvidia drivers. But something went wrong: http://imgur.com/a/4LxOO
[09:29] <Sheepolution> And now I'm not sure what to do
[09:29] <lasersaber> Speiros, i completely removed adblock and still can't play on firefox
[09:29] <mozammel>  yes cancelled.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> hateball, yeah that redirect caught my eye as well.
[09:30] <Speiros> lasersaber Yes, ok.  I'm using Noscript, and I block most things, and have to allow them one by one if I want to see anything.  Do you have anything blocking scripts, rather than ads?
[09:31] <Speiros> mozammel Ok, that's good.  Once more (the page has scrolled past where you stated it formerly on my screen) what type of printer is it?
[09:31] <lasersaber> Speiros, no script blockers or adblockers
[09:32] <Speiros> lasersaber Ok.
[09:32] <lasersaber> maybe i should reinstall firefox
[09:33] <icedwater> Hey folks, I've tried to run gnome-terminal and I get a locale error in my syslog: org.gnome.Terminal[6281]: Non UTF-8 locale (ANSI_X3.4-1968) is not supported - PID 6281 is a dbus-daemon --fork which is still running, though. Any ideas how to solve this? My LC_ALL is C, LC_* is en_SG.UTF-8 otherwise.
[09:34] <icedwater> Wait, hmm... let me C.
[09:34] <Speiros> lasersaber I'm unsure, but I can watch it after allowing that site that was blocked as well as a few more.  They are comedycentral.com, cc.com, mathtag.com and mtvnservices.com
[09:35] <Speiros> mozammel Depending on the model printer, sometimes you can look backwards from the printer to confirm that the printer is seeing the computer, rather than the computer seeing the printer.
[09:36] <Speiros> lasersaber If you really want to, I can read you some of the announcements he's reading.
[09:37] <icedwater> OK, setting LC_ALL didn't work, I'll have to see how dbus-daemon passes its env
[09:40] <lasersaber> dang it just wont work :(
[09:40] <Speiros> Did you reinstall Mozilla?
[09:41] <Speiros> lasersaber Did you reinstall Mozilla?
[09:41] <lasersaber> yeah
[09:42] <ledeni> lasersaber, did you install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[09:42] <hateball> randomly reinstalling things are unlikely to do you much good
[09:43] <mcphail> icedwater: why is LC_ALL set at all?
[09:43] <icedwater> hateball: agree :p They might just push the problem down the road, I think.
[09:43] <icedwater> mcphail: I don't know, should I unset it?
[09:43] <Speiros> Ok.  I'll tell you what I have and then maybe you can see if it would work for you.  I have noscript enabled, blocking almost all things, and have it set so that I can choose to temporarily or permanently allow things.  From there, it blocks most things, and I can allow things that I want to watch.  With this program, I can now watch that link, which was initially black-screened.
[09:43] <mcphail> icedwater: it should be blank by default, unless you are trying to override a locale
[09:44] <icedwater> mcphail: Ah, OK. unset it, but it still gives me the same error. Additionally, org.gnome.Terminal exited with status 8, I didn't get around to mentioning it earlier.
[09:44] <Speiros> lasersaber Then I allowed the five sites mentioned earlier in the two comments, and I can see Mr Mackey's lesson being taught.
[09:44] <icedwater> Thanks, mcphail
[09:44] <rmx77> hello all
[09:45] <icedwater> rmx77: hi!
[09:45] <lasersaber> ledeni, i just did and no luck :(
[09:45] <rmx77> i am having a few issues one of them is where the computer will randomly just black screen and i have to do a hard reboot and the other issue is with the usb m-audio box where it keeps turning it off and on each time it runs audio and no audio is there so if sound goes through it turns it on if no sound is going through it turns it off also after a hard reboot i have to unplug and plug back in the usb sound box to get the thing to work
[09:45] <rmx77> right
[09:45] <ledeni> lasersaber, close firefox
[09:45] <ledeni> lasersaber, and reopen
[09:46] <mcphail> icedwater: i suspect you need to undo whatever messing around you have been doing with locales before it will work correctly
[09:47] <lasersaber> i can watch the commercial they play before the video plays but cant watch the video!
[09:47] <lasersaber> !!!
[09:47] <icedwater> mcphail: I believe it was only to set LC_, though I did try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale a few times today. I don't really know how to undo those
[09:48] <lasersaber> the play button is grey out and i cant click play
[09:48] <Speiros> lasersaber Do you have Noscript on there?
[09:49] <lasersaber> no
[09:49] <hateball> lasersaber: do you have like a little... lego square in your url bar?
[09:49] <hateball> lasersaber: as I said, you may have to force-enable flash for some sites, when click-to-play does not work
[09:50] <lasersaber> hateball, yes
[09:50] <Speiros> lasersaber Ok.  I'm not certain, but my lack of trust of other sites leads me to believe that some things block on purpose other things, where this Noscript allows a person to control what is allowed to work or not.  I'm not certain also that it will definitely work in your circumstances.
[09:50] <hateball> lasersaber: can you click that and choose allow?
[09:50] <Speiros> lasersaber Still, it wasn't working in mine, and it works now, so I think it might work for you too.  If it doesn't, you can delete Noscript again, as it's an add-on.
[09:51] <hateball> lasersaber: in some cases you have pick allow and remember, then reload the page (F5)
[09:51] <Speiros> hateball True, that's an option.
[09:51] <hateball> lasersaber: you'll have the same behavior on http://www.adobe.com/se/software/flash/about/ for instance
[09:52] <linuxcrazy> are software packages installed on Lubuntu of latest versions?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> linuxcrazy, errrrrrrr what?
[09:53] <linuxcrazy> are the softwares of latest version?
[09:53] <lasersaber> hateball, i click allow but there is no remember option. video still wont play
[09:53] <cfhowlett> !latest | linuxcrazy
[09:53] <linuxcrazy> for example LibreOffice, VLC etc.
[09:54] <cfhowlett> linuxcrazy, open a terminal and do:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:54] <linuxcrazy> ok.
[09:55] <linuxcrazy> thanks a lot.
[09:55] <lasersaber> http://imgur.com/a/wH5Rp
[09:56] <Speiros> lasersaber When you allowed, did the video play?
[09:56] <cfhowlett> happy2help! linuxcrazy
[09:56] <hateball> lasersaber: right, click continue allow and then press F5 to reload the page
[09:56] <lasersaber> when i click allow nothing happens even after a page reload f5
[09:57] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[09:57] <lasersaber> i cant right click allow
[09:57] <lasersaber> wont let me
[09:57] <ubuntunewbie> what colour means in ubuntu installation on disk
[09:58] <ubuntunewbie> orange green, blue
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !details | ubuntunewbie
[09:58] <Speiros> lasersaber Keep in mind the blocker Noscript, and then only allow what you want to dominate the website, rather than the possibility of some other website dominating what you can use.
[09:58] <ubuntunewbie> i have disks sd1 and sda5 to 9
[09:58] <Speiros> lasersaber I have a feeling this is why you can't see it.
[09:58] <ubuntunewbie> sda1 and sda9 i set primary and swap
[09:59] <lasersaber> http://imgur.com/64pJ2XH
[09:59] <hateball> lasersaber: is that chrome or chromium?
[09:59] <lasersaber> but i dont have any blockers
[09:59] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie Those colours, you'll notice are all different.  It is making sure that you don't delete the wrong partition.
[09:59] <lasersaber> chrome
[09:59] <cfhowlett> powered by hulu?   yeah that would be a dealkiller if you're overseas
[09:59] <lasersaber> google chrome
[10:00] <ubuntunewbie> orange colour is given on swap partition and my other drive got same colour
[10:00] <hateball> !screenshot | ubuntunewbie
[10:00] <lasersaber> im in the usa
[10:00] <Speiros> lasersaber That's what I mean.  If there is none, there is nothing to block any malicious sites.  I could be wrong, but it won't hurt to try it, as one, it's free, and two, it works for me.
[10:01] <ubuntunewbie> sorry i'm unable to post screenshot i don't have camera  phone
[10:01] <lasersaber> noscript.net right?
[10:01] <Speiros> lasersaber yes
[10:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, are you using IRC from the install computer?
[10:01] <ubuntunewbie> install now show sda1 and sda9 will be formatted
[10:01] <ubuntunewbie> different pc
[10:02] <hateball> Speiros: Why would blocking ads help playing a video? That's making no sense, sounds more like promoting noscript
[10:02] <ubuntunewbie> correction #1 and #9 partition
[10:03] <BluesKaj> ubuntunewbie, use your prtscn key
[10:03] <ubuntunewbie> i'm worried about my backup drive which got same colour as swap partition
[10:03] <Speiros> hateball I'm not here to promote any specific program mate.  The reason I'm saying it is because I use it to stop other scripts from working on my computer, such as facebook, twitter, google, etc, and it works great.  If they aren't blocked, they are able to build up an account, and direct for ad reasons in an underhanded way to other sites.
[10:04] <Speiros> hateball The other reason is I have Mozilla, and opened his link, and got the same black screen, and now it plays.
[10:04] <Speiros> hateball No other reason, nor an ulterior motive :)
[10:05] <lasersaber> Speiros, i've allowed comedycentral.com, cc.com, mathtag.com and mtvnservices.com
[10:05] <lasersaber> still doesn't work :(
[10:05] <Speiros> lasersaber there's the first one too, the one before it...
[10:05] <cfhowlett> lasersaber, what country are you in?
[10:05] <lasersaber> usa
[10:06] <ubuntunewbie> wait 1 min
[10:06] <Speiros> lasersaber The other one was  0914.global.ssl.fastly.net
[10:06] <lasersaber> its the damn lego in my url i think its the problem
[10:06] <Speiros> hateball If it doesn't work, it's easy to delete the add-on.
[10:07] <hateball> Speiros: Just seems a very strange way to troubleshoot something by first blocking it and then allowing it. When it isnt blocked in the first place
[10:07] <hateball> But who am I to judge :)
[10:07] <Speiros> hateball I appreciate that.  It's like a back-titration.
[10:08] <Speiros> hateball If it works, I'll be happy but if it doesn't, I can't suggest anything else on this point personally.
[10:09] <ubuntunewbie> damn so network and slow system
[10:09] <ubuntunewbie> slow*
[10:10] <lasersaber> i need to sleep
[10:10] <Speiros> hateball The ideology is by blocking everything, and then only allowing through what is requried.
[10:10] <ubuntunewbie> light weighted image site?
[10:10] <lasersaber> i will tackle this issue again tomorrow
[10:10] <Speiros> lasersaber Did you add that last one too?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, in English please?
[10:10] <lasersaber> yeah
[10:11] <Speiros> lasersaber And no success?
[10:11] <ubuntunewbie> light weight image hosting site with providing direct image link
[10:11] <lasersaber> thanks for the help
[10:11] <lasersaber> no
[10:11] <Speiros> lasersaber Sorry man.  I don't know what it is then from my end.
[10:11] <cfhowlett> !paste | ubuntunewbie
[10:11] <lasersaber> i'll be back ina few hours
[10:11] <lasersaber> no worries
[10:11] <lasersaber> peace
[10:12] <ubuntunewbie> thanks
[10:12] <Speiros> Damn.  It's a shame that, but I got a good link to watch South Park on.
[10:14] <Speiros> hateball I have a feeling lasersaber's problem is a mixture of a site being a nuisance, and the allowing thing with flash.
[10:15] <Guest22042> hi
[10:16] <Guest22042> i am looking for the chromium and opera bookmarks file in dolphin, can't find where are they stored ?
[10:16] <Guest22042> anyone would help
[10:18] <icedwater> Guest22042: not sure where to start looking, I tried .cache but to no avail.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> .config ?
[10:22] <ubuntunewbie> here is image http://imgur.com/a/MuQ7D
[10:22] <Speiros> How do I open from here another page (as I want to go to Audacity and see why I can't get all the plugins)?
[10:22] <ubuntunewbie> sd7 has same colour as swap partition one.
[10:23] <ubuntunewbie> sda*
[10:23] <ubuntunewbie> so it will format which one?
[10:23] <Guest22042> i am looking for the chromium and opera bookmarks file in dolphin, can't find where are they stored ?
[10:23] <ubuntunewbie> anyone?
[10:24] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie The message you had at your imgur account shows partition 1 and 9, yes?
[10:24] <ubuntunewbie> yeah
[10:24] <ubuntunewbie> #1 and #9
[10:25] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie They will be the ones you are formatting.
[10:25] <ubuntunewbie_> so which sda7 will be formatted along with #9?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, except that is NOT what it said.  you have to read the feedback.
[10:26] <ubuntunewbie_> sda7 is my backup drive
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie_> i just worried about sda7
[10:27] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie If you are unsure, stop the formatting, write down which sda is which, and then format.
[10:27] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie If you are unsure, stop the formatting, write down which sda is which, and then format.
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie> so which sda7 will be formatted along with #9?
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie> sda7 is my backup drive
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie> i just worried about sda7
[10:28] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie, READ the feedback.  it says nothing anywhere about sda7.
[10:28] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie Unselect them if you are unsure, then write them down on a piece of paper, so that you have all the details.
[10:28] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie Only then, should you format any drives, when you yourself are 100% certain.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> or you could unplug the backup driver and install, plug it back in after you finish.
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie__> so which sda7 will be formatted along with #9?
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie__> sda7 is my backup drive
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie__> i just worried about sda7
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie__> colour making me confusing
[10:29] <cfhowlett> not sure if bot ...
[10:29] <Speiros> cfhowlett, quit, and then makes comment?  That's a little odd.
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie__> so i abort installation?
[10:30] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ What do you think you'd say if I was to ask you the question, and you were to guide me?
[10:31] <ubuntunewbie__> i would say i don't know or i don't have knowledge
[10:31] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ So if I wasn't sure, you'd not tell me to delete them?
[10:32] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ Therefore, as you are about to delete partitions, you need to be 100% certain for yourself.  Only you are responsible.
[10:32] <cfhowlett> excuse, wait, what?  what are we deleting now?
[10:32] <Speiros> cfhowlett ubuntunewbie__ wants to format two partitions.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> got it.  not the same as deleting - scared me for a moment
[10:33] <ubuntunewbie__> i just installing but ubuntu picking other drive and give swap partition colour which i asking sda7 will be formatted
[10:33] <Speiros> cfhowlett True, but they'll lose information on the drives if there is anything on there.
[10:34] <cfhowlett> ubuntunewbie__, forget the colors.  hear me?  forget the color.  read the text!
[10:34] <ubuntunewbie__> that is why colour is giving me confusing
[10:34] <ubuntunewbie__> okay
[10:34] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ The colours are so you can see that they are separate drives.  There is only a finite amount of colours used, and as for them being the same, you have a decent amount of drives.
[10:34] <ubuntunewbie__> so #9 is sda9
[10:35] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ If you are unsure, then stop, and then restart and write it down as you go as to whether #9 is sda9.
[10:35] <ubuntunewbie__> okay
[10:35] <Speiros> ubuntunewbie__ Then you won't make a mistake.
[10:35] <ubuntunewbie__> thanks
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !cookie | Speiros in lieu of the more traditional brew ...
[10:37] <Speiros> cfhowlett :)  I wish...
[10:41] <Speiros> cfhowlett Hey man...that cookie was nice, but those brown chunks that tasted a little spicy for chocolate are making me sleepy...
[10:41] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:42] <Guest22042> anyone can tell me where can i find opera bookmark file?
[10:45] <Speiros> How do I open another page on here?
[10:45] <Speiros> What command is it after the backslash?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Speiros, you mean a new tab?
[10:45] <Speiros> Yes, I want to look at the audacity page and the libreoffice page
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Speiros, /join #channelname
[10:46] <freak> hi everyone!
[10:46] <Speiros> cfhowlett Thanks.  I forget easily (I should write them down...lol)
[10:46] <freak> i need help related to snmpd service
[10:46] <cfhowlett> happy2help! Speiros
[10:46] <Speiros> :D
[10:47] <freak> i have configured snmpd service but i couldn't find where and in which file these traps will be stored
[10:47] <freak> any help will be appreciated
[10:48] <Speiros> freak Hi mate.  Sorry, but I personally know nothing about it.
[10:48] <Speiros> freak Others will though.
[10:58] <Speiros> Okay, I think I'm back, yes?
[11:00] <Speiros> Can anyone tell me what this forward slash mode means?
[11:06] <Flannel> Speiros: If you set your mode as +R, you would block queries (think private messaging) from non-registered users.  There was a problem with botnet query spamming a couple weeks ago.
[11:07] <Speiros> Flannel Ah okay.  Thanks for that.
[11:07] <soheil> hi
[11:07] <soheil> how can i install vmware on ubuntu 14.04
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !vmware | soheil
[11:08] <soheil> can someone give me a link for download vmware.bundle
[11:09] <cfhowlett> soheil, did you even read the link I sent?  ALL the info is there.
[11:11] <IhrFussel> Is Ubuntu 16.04 stable enough yet to use for a root server?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> I'd say so but check with #ubuntu-server
[11:11] <ikonia> IhrFussel: "root" server ?
[11:11] <ikonia> what's a root server
[11:11] <Speiros> soheil That link that cfhowlett posted made the bot give you two links.
[11:11] <IhrFussel> A root server is one you don't share with others (like VPS)
[11:11] <soheil> i did read that but i need a link for download .bundle
[11:12] <k1l> IhrFussel: it was stable from the beginning. the stableness means it doesnt change that much so the tested setups are stable.
[11:12] <nugroho> WHA420355-SOC155694-YMH297433-WHA800477-JPL749250-APB800779
[11:12] <cfhowlett> nugroho, sopt
[11:12] <ikonia> soheil: talk to vmware then
[11:13] <ikonia> soheil: it's their product, their website,
[11:13] <soheil> VMware-Workstation-6.5.0-118166.i386.bundle
[11:13] <IhrFussel> k1l, alright thanks...I was wondering that cause my hoster now offers 16.04 and I used 14.04 before
[11:13] <cfhowlett> soheil, right.  go to the website
[11:13] <soheil> i cant
[11:13] <cfhowlett> IhrFussel, 16.04 is an LTS release as is 14.04.  sounds like your hoster is doing the decent thing keeping you advised.
[11:14] <cfhowlett> soheil, well, since this is not an ubuntu product and is not even a recommended solution, not much for us to do.
[11:14] <soheil> it is denied from my country
[11:15] <ikonia> soheil: then even if we had a URL you couldn't get it
[11:15] <cfhowlett> soheil, but virtualbox is not
[11:15] <ikonia> soheil: pickup the phone to vmware
[11:15] <soheil> just give me link i can get it
[11:16] <ikonia> soheil: you've just said the website is blocked, so you can't
[11:16] <cfhowlett> www.vmware.com soheil
[11:16] <ikonia> soheil: if the website isn't blocked, look at their website
[11:16] <cfhowlett> curious soheil: what country blocks vmware?  or is it your ISP that blocks it
[11:17] <soheil> VMware
[11:17] <soheil> Content Not Available
[11:17] <soheil> Dear user, the web content you have requested is not available.
[11:17] <ikonia> soheil: then use the phone
[11:17] <soheil> i see this when i browse
[11:17] <ikonia> soheil: sorry, but this is outside the scope of this channel
[11:18] <ikonia> soheil: vmware has a website, and other support resources
[11:18] <soheil> there is no phone
[11:18] <cfhowlett> soheil, not - an - ubuntu - problem.  use virtualbox
[11:19] <soheil> okay
[11:19] <Speiros> :)
[11:19] <soheil> you couldnt just tell me a link
[11:19] <Speiros> soheil At least you have some other places to start to look.
[11:20] <ikonia> soheil: no
[11:20] <soheil> its what it is