[12:14] <Arwen> MinceR, well, it's a deb. Opera is closed-source so any opera deb is the same as any other.
[12:14] <kdawg> yeah there was a time 5 years ago when that would be fast
[12:14] <Search4Lancer> okay, this is rediculous... is there a mirror of the "known problems" page anywhere?
[12:14] <kdawg> now 60K/s == lame
[12:14] <Arwen> kdawg, hehe, my max is 150K/s anyway :-\
[12:14] <BluesKaj> I have 1G memory , azureus / java m,dependent  buggy
[12:15] <kdawg> haha I peak at around 300, but average is 150
[12:15] <MinceR> Arwen: so i shouldn't expect any dependency problems?
[12:15] <kdawg> i was running azureus on edgy with 256MB and I'm surprised my drives didnt fail from all the swapping
[12:15] <Arwen> MinceR, err, probably not - most of Opera is statically linked to the dependencies
[12:15] <kdawg> it took up 192mb of space in memory
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> the most ive ever downloaded/sec was 7241kb/s it was sweet
[12:16] <atropos> hello
[12:16] <kdawg> I used to get speeds like that on the campus network, then they blocked all the ports.... :(
[12:16] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, 7M/s???
[12:16] <Tired_> so, I'm in a second console (an Alt+F1 one), and X is running poorly in Alt+F8...how can I make it restart over there from where I am?
[12:16] <atropos> I am on the fiesty live cd and the resolution is not being set correctly
[12:16] <kdawg> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:16] <atropos> the chip set is Intel 82845G/GL
[12:16] <Arwen> kdawg, lol - when I leech at the local University I get 500K/s down and 10M/s up....
[12:16] <atropos> any sugestions
[12:16] <chemicalvamp> the owner of my apartment ran a ISP from the building, had satalite access from the roof, and a LAN in ever room in the building
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah gotta love those T1 lines
[12:17] <Arwen> atropos, 915resolution maybe?
[12:17] <atropos> will do
[12:17] <Arwen> kdawg, T1 is 1.5M symmetric, lol
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah whatever
[12:17] <kdawg> fiberoptic then
[12:17] <chemicalvamp> i had 7down 3up
[12:17] <kdawg> :)
[12:17] <aftermath> I think I found the file causing the Joliet problem: Scarface.1983.DVDRip.R2UK.NORDIC.PAL.2CD.XviD-BAG.3285155.TPB.torrent
[12:17] <kdawg> yeah perhaps
[12:18] <Arwen> aftermath, no warez here...
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> his server was sweet had 10down 100up.. luck SOB
[12:18] <Tired_> thanks again  :)
[12:18] <aftermath> Arwen: Not a link, just a filename
[12:18] <chris2142sd> heh
[12:18] <aftermath> Who knows, I may have decided to name my tax returns that
[12:18] <david_> I've just upgraded frm 6.01 to 7.04, and now I'm getting intermittant soundcard issues (ie: stuck on high pitched ringing tones). Is this a known issue?
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> but even if you had 100down... where the heck are you going to find a server thats gonna let you download off them for 100mb/s?
[12:19] <chemicalvamp> besides the pcpitstop.com bandwidth test
[12:19] <aftermath> aha
[12:19] <chris2142sd> chemicalvamp: with bit torrent you just have to find a hundred servers willing to let you download at 1 mb/s;)
[12:19] <aftermath> I found the actual file
[12:19] <msoini> hello
[12:19] <ShiftedBeef> torrents I guess.
[12:19] <aftermath> (I hope this time for real) Torrent.lnk
[12:19] <aftermath> yeah, I think the chars aren't allowed in isos
[12:19] <msoini> is anyone feeling adventurous_
[12:19] <kdawg> yeah makes sense
[12:19] <aftermath> not particularly
[12:20] <atropos> Arwen: it is saying the package does not exit
[12:20] <atropos> exist rather
[12:20] <aftermath> nice.
[12:20] <aftermath> it started writing.
[12:20] <aftermath> thanks all
[12:20] <Arwen> atropos, hmm, dunno then
[12:20] <atropos> the issue is the installer is too big for the fall back resolution
[12:20] <kdawg> msoni, last time I felt adventurous, I woke up with three paternity suits
[12:20] <msoini> lol
[12:20] <Arwen> atropos, use the alternate CD then. It's plain better
[12:20] <kdawg> yeah, alternat > live cd
[12:21] <chemicalvamp> chris2142sd yeah thats what i mean after you have 1mb/s your wastin your money... if you pay for 10mb/s your wasting your money, because they are like all capped
[12:21] <mehdi_> est ce que il ya qq1 qui c parler en francais
[12:21] <kdawg> ok i give up, how do i set konqueror so that I have to double click on files instead of single clicking
[12:21] <chemicalvamp> i mean up to 1mb/s is good.. 10 is a waste
[12:22] <kdawg> ie. not "web style"
[12:22] <BluesKaj> kdawg, sytem settings/ keyboard mouse
[12:22] <aftermath> how much can I overburn a DVDR?
[12:22] <kdawg> ......that seems like a silly place to put it
[12:23] <neoncode> Hey if I got two realy big mpg files, about 1-1.5GB each. Can I join them together seamlessly?
[12:23] <kdawg> thanks though!
[12:23] <msoini> i installed kubuntu yesterday
[12:23] <msoini> had a blast until a while ago, can't log in now
[12:23] <msoini> booted using the livecd
[12:23] <chemicalvamp> msoini what does it do
[12:23] <aftermath> ooh, I just figured where kdesu comes from :D go me
[12:24] <msoini> it boots, and gives me the login screen
[12:24] <chemicalvamp> msoini and then you put your "log in name" in and password in right?
[12:24] <msoini> when i type in my password the screen goes black for a few seconds, then returns to the login screen
[12:25] <aftermath> I <3 livecds. They let me destroy my partitions in peace
[12:25] <ShiftedBeef> Now here is a question: Has anyone here successfully dual booted XP and Kubuntu 6.06?
[12:25] <chemicalvamp> msoini boot the live cd and do the "test cd integrity" if it comes out ok, boot it and try re-installing
[12:25] <aftermath> ShiftedBeef: I dual-booted ubuntu 6.17 (I think that was it) and xpmc
[12:26] <kdawg> I succesfully booted XP and Ubuntu 6.06
[12:26] <kdawg> but not Kubuntu
[12:26] <kdawg> shortly thereafter, I used a live cd to nuke the xp partition :D
[12:26] <BluesKaj> yup , ShiftedBeef ...had dapper and xp , on separate partitons
[12:26] <chemicalvamp> kdawg your installing xp first and then kubuntu right/
[12:26] <kdawg> yes
[12:26] <msoini> chemicalvamp: hmm, sounds radical
[12:26] <kdawg> thats how microsoft likes it
[12:26] <ShiftedBeef> That's what I tried to do, actually. Soon as Grub takes over the bootloader, BAM.
[12:26] <kdawg> it needs to be first on the MBR
[12:27] <david_> How can I find/modify what sound drivers I'm using?
[12:27] <hyperspace> is there a MOTU team for kubuntu?
[12:27] <ShiftedBeef> Soon as Kubuntu is installed, BSOD.
[12:27] <ShiftedBeef> On the XP partition that is.
[12:28] <kdawg> interesting
[12:28] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, are you having boot probs ?
[12:28] <kdawg> maybe put in the XP cd and do a repair>
[12:28] <kdawg> but that will wipe out grub I think
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> Only on the XP partiton.
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> Can't repair the partiton.
[12:28] <ShiftedBeef> I tried.
[12:29] <kdawg> is the XP partition on the hda drive, or primary master
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, did you install kubuntu without setting up an ext partition first /
[12:29] <ShiftedBeef> Yes.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> used the partition editor in the install cd then
[12:30] <Tired_> YAY!  I have a working Feisty desktop!  Thanks for all your help. :)
[12:30] <ShiftedBeef> I manually set my partitons. I leave the Windows one alone, and I set up a root and a swap partion.
[12:30] <BluesKaj> or not ?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> ok, then you should be ok
[12:30] <chemicalvamp> so your xp partition is fubar and you need to reinstall, and by doing that restoring windows boot loader instead of grub? that is a pickle
[12:30] <aftermath> how do I tar a set of directories individually at once
[12:31] <crama> hi all, I just see there are the new gutsy folders on the repository. What is the suggested method to upgrade to Gutsy?
[12:31] <ShiftedBeef> If I try to reinstall XP while Kubuntu is still installed, then it will report an error and halt the format.
[12:31] <louieb391> I just came in - but is someone trying to install the windows boot loader over grub?
[12:31] <facugaich> are there md5sums for the CD isos?
[12:31] <dante_> Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, get the SuperGrub live cd if possible , it''ll restore your windows access by reinstalling Grub
[12:32] <ShiftedBeef> Well, if that were an option I'd go for it.
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef whats it doing when you try to bo the windows partition?
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> boot*
[12:32] <ShiftedBeef> It gets as far as the XP logo, and BSOD's.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, if you install windows AFTER kubuntu , it wipes Grub
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> BluesKaj he cant
[12:33] <ShiftedBeef> Actually it halts the format entirely.
[12:33] <aos101> @facugaich: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS
[12:33] <louieb391> run chdsk shifted
[12:33] <BluesKaj> what partition editor are you using , ShiftedBeef ?
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> can you boot into safe mode?
[12:33] <louieb391> chkdsk*
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> grib
[12:33] <facugaich> aos101, thank you very much
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> grub*
[12:34] <ShiftedBeef> No safe mode, and no chkdsk.
[12:34] <ShiftedBeef> I have tried both.
[12:34] <Doctor_Nick> :D >:(
[12:34] <louieb391> shift use the windows disk and go to repair and run it
[12:34] <louieb391> ooh
[12:34] <louieb391> oops
[12:34] <BluesKaj> ShiftedBeef, get GParted ...it's the best live cd partition editor , in my experience
[12:35] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef can you back up all your stuff and wipe the whole disk?
[12:35] <aftermath> how do I view files in my dvd drive?
[12:35] <ShiftedBeef> Yeah, I have.
[12:35] <ShiftedBeef> Oh, one more snag. I also cannot mount my slaved NTFS HDD.
[12:36] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef so your hard drive is blank
[12:36] <ShiftedBeef> My Primary HDD has my OS and everything else, my slaved has my data, but I can only access it when XP is installed.
[12:36] <ShiftedBeef> Otherwise Kubuntu will refuse to mount.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef a slavedrive would be hdb instead of hda FYI
[12:37] <dante_> Could someone help me with my kicker panel. I am using kubuntu 7.04. My kicker wont display active applications.
[12:37] <ShiftedBeef> I know.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:37] <ShiftedBeef> I'll called it hdb if it makes it easier then.
[12:37] <chemicalvamp> im confused on whats on your master drive right now
[12:38] <crama> Anyone just tried to change the repositories to Gutsy?
[12:38] <ShiftedBeef> It is all formatted.
[12:38] <chemicalvamp> so your on a live cd?
[12:38] <ShiftedBeef> Well no. I instaled Kubuntu.
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> on your slave drive?
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> you said your primary was formated, what did you install kubuntu on?
[12:39] <mehdi_> \server irc.voila.fr
[12:39] <ShiftedBeef> Well, various things.
[12:40] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> Music files, tech calls, games, etc.
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> All my data is there on hdb if I format and install Windows.
[12:40] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:40] <ShiftedBeef> Kubuntu will refuse to mount it however.
[12:41] <canas> does anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef whats the location of it? hdb1?
[12:41] <ShiftedBeef> yes.
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> and its ntfs?
[12:42] <cecko> Hi all, please help me with Beryl, I have it running but there are no window borders and even some buttons are missing
[12:43] <ShiftedBeef> "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:43] <ShiftedBeef> "
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[12:43] <Arwen> ShiftedBeef, that means you don't have a /dev/hdb1 mounted
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> if its ntfs
[12:44] <khaije1> what is the default blocksize for ext3?
[12:44] <canas> does anyone have installed beryl on kubuntu?
[12:44] <Arwen> khaije1, 4k
[12:44] <Arwen> canas, me
[12:44] <Arwen> canas, well, Ubuntu, but it's the same idea
[12:44] <kristjan_> what's up with https://wiki.kubuntu.org/? it displays kinda messed up
[12:44] <canas> how i can install it
[12:44] <ShiftedBeef> nt/hdb1mkdir: invalid option -- t
[12:44] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> canas #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <Alonea> is there a way for adept to undo something it did?
[12:45] <canas> tnx chemicalvamp
[12:45] <khaije1> thx Arwen
[12:45] <ShiftedBeef> It should mount when I click on it, or when I right click and hit mount.
[12:45] <Alonea> I tried reinstalling my wlassistant and it REMOVED something else along with the reinstallation!
[12:45] <chemicalvamp>  -t =device by type should be followed by the partition type.. so if its not ntfs that command would be wrong
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do fdisk -l (thats a lowercase L)
[12:46] <ShiftedBeef> Interesting, so that might mean that Kubuntu is not seeing the drive as ntfs?
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> see what it calls it in fdisk
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[12:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:47] <ShiftedBeef> Cannot open /dev/hdb1
[12:48] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef it said that in fdisk -l?
[12:48] <dante_> Could someone help me with my taskbar. Im using kubuntu 7.04. My taskbar wont display active applications.
[12:48] <apus> dante_: does it display minimized ones?
[12:49] <ShiftedBeef> fdisk /dev/hdb1 -l
[12:49] <ShiftedBeef> that was when fdisk -l did nothing but go down to the next line.
[12:49] <dante_> apus no it doesnt
[12:49] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef no do sudo fdisk -l copy the output into the pastebin and paste the address in ere
[12:50] <ShiftedBeef> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16931/
[12:51] <sstchur> I just installed the latest nvidia drivers, but now everytime I reboot X fails to start until I issue the command sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia.... why is this and how do I make it so I don't have to do this?
[12:52] <cnj> dante_: if you right-click the t-bar, select configure panel and go to the taskbar pane is "show application icons" selected?
[12:52] <lupul> nvidia rullzzz!!
[12:53] <dante_> cnj: ya it is selected.
[12:53] <dasnipa> hmm how would i check to see if i have any compositing effects enabled?
[12:53] <aos101> @dante_: If you right click on it, go "Add Applet to Panel" and add a Taskbar applet does it show them then?
[12:53] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef type these "sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb" "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1" if theres an error pastebin it
[12:53] <apus> how can I make the forward and back button on my 7 button mouse to actually go forward and back in firefox and konquerer, currently they do things like create new tab
[12:54] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef and from now on, if your going to share a back-up drive with windows/linux.. make it fat32 : /
[12:54] <dante_> @aos101 ya it shows that
[12:55] <aos101> @dante_:So now you've added the applet, is it showing applications OK?
[12:55] <ShiftedBeef> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16932/
[12:55] <cnj> dante_: have you by chance changed the default coloring of the task bar (I am really stretching here!:) )
[12:56] <Tired_> is there like, a stable and unstable branch of the repositories?
[12:56] <dante_> @aos101: it still doesnt display active applications
[12:56] <txwikinger> ShiftedBeef: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 (the 1 is missing)
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> myles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> needs to be myles@myles-desktop:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 try again
[12:56] <Tired_> i used gentoo before, and it had ~x86...does Kubuntu have something similar I can shut off?
[12:57] <Tired_> or do I not have to?
[12:57] <dante_> @cnj: no i havent
[12:57] <Tm_T> hmm, you mean "unstable" ?
[12:57] <aos101> @dante_: If you added the applet and it still isn't showing them, I don't know what is wrong.  Maybe someone else knows?
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> Ok now, it looks like it is mounted, but got an error dialougue when trying to enter it.
[12:58] <iain> hey guys, quick queston you someone can probably answer straight way
[12:58] <esaym> is there any way to gewt sound in ms pps files?
[12:58] <cnj> dante_: so, this is the default install taskbar?
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> Could not enter folder /mnt/hdb1.
[12:58] <iain> does anyone know the terminal command to restart ALSA?
[12:58] <Tired_> Tm_T _. maybe.  i mean I don't want unstable things.
[12:58] <iain> as in to reboot just the part of the OS handling my sound output
[12:58] <ShiftedBeef> We are close though! :)
[12:59] <iain> I'm just back from a hibernate and (as sometimes happens) it doesn't work.
[12:59] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef does the folder hdb1 have a lock icon over it?
[12:59] <iain> I can't be bothered restarting the whole machine
[12:59] <Tm_T> Tired_: no you should not get any unstable stuff without hard effort so no worries
[12:59] <Tired_> :)
[12:59] <dante_> cnj: Yup defualt taskbar
[12:59] <ShiftedBeef> Nope, no lock.
[12:59] <iain> etc/init.d/alsa restart? or something?
[12:59] <mojojojo> hello first timer on irc
[01:00] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef close the window and run the command "kdesu konqueror"
[01:00] <kristjan_> iain: maybe try #alsa?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> iain, 'alsamixer' in the terminal
[01:00] <kristjan_> #alsa
[01:00] <iain> alsa doesn't do much and mixer will just bring me to the colume control
[01:00] <iain> I want to actually restart that module
[01:01] <iain> equiv of /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:01] <mojojojo> have a technical problem with formatting external hard drive, can someone help?
[01:01] <kristjan_> unload module then?
[01:01] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo sure
[01:01] <iain> kristjan> I just sound like I know what I'm talking about :-D ....not sure what to type to do that.
[01:02] <ShiftedBeef> Well, it took the command, but no response.
[01:02] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo type "fdisk -l (thats an L) and pastbin the output
[01:02] <BluesKaj> iain, if aslamixer shows up , that means it should be working
[01:02] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef no konqueror window popped up?
[01:02] <mojojojo> cool, executed mkfs.ext3
[01:02] <iain> blueskaj> yep I occasionally get this error though
[01:03] <iain> blueskaj> and even although the sound is configured to be on the souond isn't there. It's associated with resuming from hybernation
[01:03] <mojojojo> then learned that it need be fat to work with windoes too
[01:03] <ShiftedBeef> nope.
[01:03] <iain> anyway I can fix it by restarting the computer
[01:03] <iain> I'm trying to find a faster way :)
[01:03] <iain> as I believe that all restarting is doing to help is reloading alsa
[01:03] <iain> so if I could do that from terminal....
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef ok.. hold alt, hit space bar (this is katapault) type konsole hit enter
[01:03] <BluesKaj> sorry, dunno about hibernation ... never use it
[01:03] <kristjan_> iain: sudo modprobe -r thatmodule
[01:04] <kristjan_> iain: and then sudo modprobe thatmodule
[01:04] <mojojojo> well it is now in process of writing inode tables
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> then type kdesu konqueror dont close the konsole
[01:04] <ShiftedBeef> Ok, up came a konqueror window.
[01:05] <chemicalvamp> now put /mnt/hdb1 in the address bar and hit enter
[01:05] <sstchur_> Why is it that X fails to start (now that I've installed new nVidia drivers) until I issue the command "sudo rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia" ?
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> That did it.
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> I now have access.
[01:05] <ShiftedBeef> Now is this permanent?
[01:05] <iain> krisjan thanks for your help :-)
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef now i hope there was a point to all of that ;)
[01:06] <kristjan_> sstchur_: how did you install nvidida drivers?
[01:06] <kristjan_> iain: does it work?
[01:06] <iain> krisjan - I'm going to search through the options using tab..........could take a while
[01:06] <sstchur_> kristjan_: I used an install script from nvidia
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef back up your stuff if needed, we'll get your duel boot working
[01:06] <ShiftedBeef> There was. Thank you so much for your help!
[01:06] <iain> kristjan_> not sure yet
[01:06] <iain> kristjan_> need to find the actual name of the module to test it
[01:06] <sstchur_> kristjan_: well, actually I tried to follow these instructions: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA
[01:07] <kristjan_> sstchur_: install script?
[01:07] <mojojojo> fdisk -l is not showing the harddrive
[01:07] <sstchur_> kristjan_: maybe I"m not saying it right.. I dunno, I did wget as those instructions say, and got the NVIDIA-Linux-x86....pkg1.run file
[01:07] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef if you want to be able to access that folder without running kdesu konqueror right click on the folder "hdb1" and click the permissions tabe, and put them all as can read / modify"
[01:07] <Mena> !Ktorrent
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <kristjan_> sstchur_: you probably forgot to edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[01:07] <sstchur_> kristjan_: which I ran with sudo sh
[01:07] <Mena> !ktorrent
[01:07] <iain> kristjan_> which means typing what you wrote minus the 'that module' and hitting tab until it lists loooads of options then either trying them all or my favourate - pick randomly
[01:08] <sstchur_> kristjan_: yes I probably did b/c I don't know what that means and didn't see it in the instructions
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> !info ktorrent
[01:08] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2347 kB, installed size 8852 kB
[01:08] <kristjan_> iain: lsmod will show you modules used
[01:08] <sstchur_> kristjan_: ok... I'm somewhat familiar with lsmod... what I don't get is why X fails to start every time I reboot until I do sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:09] <sstchur_> kristjan_: isn't that just removing and then adding the same module?
[01:09] <kristjan_> sstchur_: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common and add DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[01:09] <kristjan_> sstchur_: lsmod part was for other person
[01:09] <sstchur_> kristjan_: oh ok
[01:10] <sstchur_> kristjan_: so let me see if I understand... it's still trying to use the older "nv" module when I reboot, so adding "nv" to disabled modules will ensure that it uses the newer?
[01:10] <iain> kristjan_ excellent i've found the 'module soundcore' unfortunately I'm getting 'module is in use'
[01:10] <iain> will muting the system fix it do you think?
[01:10] <kristjan_> sstchur_: don't know what it is ;)
[01:11] <kristjan_> iain: I guess where has to be other way to restart sound, try #ubuntu
[01:11] <iain> kristjan> thanks for your help. If you're ever in Edinburgh I owe you a drink. ;-)
[01:12] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : did you get my input?
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo no im sorr i was helping somebody on a side channel
[01:13] <mojojojo> its ok
[01:13] <kristjan_> iain: but I haven't really helped you much
[01:14] <phil000000000000> wenas
[01:14] <phil000000000000> alguien podria ayudarme en como cambiar los programas que se inician con kubuntu?
[01:14] <stoft> how do I reload .bashrc in the same session (without exiting/opening a new session)?
[01:14] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : well now its in process of writing inode tables 366/597 and not showing in fdisk -l list yet
[01:15] <stoft> !es
[01:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:15] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo so you want to format a external hard drive, please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L)
[01:16] <qaz> hi ....I can't play *.avi and *.mpeg and all codecs on Kubuntu 7.04 , I want help
[01:16] <chemicalvamp> !multimedia
[01:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:16] <Mena> Hey is there a channel for ktorrent
[01:16] <khaije1> stoft: source .bashrc || . bashrc
[01:16] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo the "sudo" is important
[01:17] <stoft> thnx khaije1
[01:17] <wolferine> what do I need to install a new USB printer/scanner?
[01:17] <khaije1> stoft: np, you just need to 'source
[01:17] <stoft> :)
[01:18] <khaije1> ' it the period and the command source are equivalent
[01:18] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : yes i know, where to pastebin?
[01:18] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:18] <qaz> I want codecs for kubuntu
[01:19] <chemicalvamp> qaz please read the !multimedia
[01:19] <Otrayo> go to mplayer.hu and download codecs-essential
[01:19] <qaz> I have kaffine
[01:19] <ShiftedBeef> I know automatix2 will work, but I had bad luck with that.
[01:19] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef wb, did you get it?
[01:19] <jbruckman> hey i'm trying to use k3b to make a backup copy of a game CD i own, so i don't have to use the bought version to play games with(i'm paranoid about scratches?). Anyway, does anyone have any info on this using k3b?
[01:19] <ShiftedBeef> Can't sem to copy and paste.
[01:20] <Otrayo> my feisty upgrade keeps failing coz of problems with http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted, any ideas?
[01:20] <mojojojo> !paste
[01:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:20] <ShiftedBeef> Also there is a file on the fable game preventing me from modifying permissions.
[01:20] <wolferine> what app can I use for scanning images ??
[01:20] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do you have permission to access the disk? we did kdesu konqueror to access it as root
[01:21] <Otrayo> wolferine: kooka
[01:21] <ShiftedBeef> Yes, we made it that far.
[01:21] <drkns> hello fellas
[01:21] <ShiftedBeef> I have songs that I'm able to play, but cannot move them.
[01:21] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo paste the output into the pastebin website, hit paste and copy the url from the addressbar
[01:21] <drkns> i am still trying to set up my wireless pcmci card
[01:21] <Otrayo> drkns, what you using? ndiswrapper?
[01:21] <drkns> i have set up ndiswrapper and loaded the proper drivers and can see my AP network
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef do you still have kdesu konqueror open?
[01:22] <drkns> but nothing beyind that
[01:22] <ShiftedBeef> Yes.
[01:22] <drkns> wpa_supplicant wont start and i cant register to Ap
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef right click on the hdb1 folder and click pproperties
[01:22] <ShiftedBeef> Got it.
[01:22] <drkns> yep this is the situation right now
[01:23] <Otrayo> anyone done a feisty upgrade with the new upgrade tool yet?
[01:23] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef theres 3 drop boxes, set them all to "can view & modify content"
[01:23] <Morpheus_74> Hello All. I just did a fresh install of fiesty and I'm having some display issues.  I cannot get the refresh rate to 85.  Any ideas?
[01:23] <drkns> i can see my network double click it and comes up and i put in my wpa pass but it wont get added to the list or no internet
[01:24] <qaz> where is codecs for fiesty?
[01:24] <Otrayo> if you can see your network the at least you're done with the hard part
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef you may also want to click the apply changes to subfolders and their contentscheck box
[01:24] <Alonea> drkns: you using KNetworkManager?
[01:24] <ShiftedBeef> "Could not change permissions for /mnthdb1."
[01:24] <Otrayo> qaz, there are codecs for everything
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> !multimedia>qaz
[01:24] <ShiftedBeef> "Could not change permissions for /mnt/hdb1." was the error.
[01:24] <drkns> smtg called kwlan is coming up
[01:25] <sstchur_> how come everytime I try to play a DVD with Kaffeine it said "Source can't be read.. maybe you don't have enough rights, etc..." ?
[01:25] <Otrayo> sstchur, encrypted dvd?
[01:25] <blain> Howdy folks.  New to kubuntu, but around debian for a while.
[01:25] <Alonea> drkns: that would be the same program. I could not get it to work, so I use wlassistant instead.
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef in konsole run "chown NAME:NAME /mnt/hdb1" reaplce name with your user name
[01:25] <drkns> himm i will try that now
[01:25] <sstchur_> Otrayo: I don't know (don't know much about this stuff).. they're just normal DVDs I bought at Target
[01:26] <blain> Any idea why there aren't any reasonably usable podcatchers available for ubuntu?
[01:26] <huyter> hey guys, is very problematic the upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04??
[01:26] <sstchur_> Otrayo: I'm not trying to rip them or anything... just play them
[01:26] <jbruckman> !raw
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <Otrayo> sstchur_: you need to install libdvdcss. The dvds are encrypted
[01:26] <Otrayo> even if you're just trying to play them you still need libdvdcss afaik
[01:26] <chemicalvamp> !info raw
[01:26] <stoft> chemicalvamp: if it's Feisty, does hdb1 still exist? I thought they were going to change the names to /dev/sd*
[01:26] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | sstchur_,
[01:26] <ubotu> Package raw does not exist in feisty
[01:26] <Morpheus_74> Can someone help me configure my xorg for fiesty?
[01:26] <ubotu> sstchur_,: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:26] <ShiftedBeef> "chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:27] <drkns> do i have to uninstall kwlan????????
[01:27] <stoft> huyter: I just upgraded, no major problems what I can tell, but haven't really tested everything yet.
[01:27] <sstchur_> Otrayo: thanks!
[01:27] <Otrayo> sstchur_: no problem :)
[01:27] <Otrayo> anyone else getting this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:27] <blain> huyter -- only problem I had was the servers were really hammered.
[01:27] <Otrayo> i got the file via wget and managed to (un)gunzip it no problem
[01:28] <chemicalvamp> stoft hda for master, hdb for slave, same applies for sda
[01:28] <huyter> thanks, stoft & blain, i still remebered the catastrofic upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10
[01:29] <aftermath> k3b fails at international filenames :(
[01:29] <aftermath> I've ruined 3 dvds before I just decided to take out those songs
[01:29] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?
[01:29] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef i dont know how linux handles ntfs, i never tried it... if i where you i would install windows, move all your files over to it, and format your back-up drive to fat32
[01:30] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : sorry for the delay but i am not getting a url after paste!
[01:30] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef then move it all back
[01:30] <ShiftedBeef> NOt a bad idea.
[01:31] <chemicalvamp> ShiftedBeef there could be an issue between readin/writing to a ntfs disk.. but i KNOW linux can read/write to a fat32 partition
[01:31] <Otrayo> ShiftedBeef: of you can try the linux-ntfs project
[01:31] <ShiftedBeef> Ok, well, thanks again for your help, I never made it this far.
[01:31] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : getting an index file.
[01:31] <wolferine> NTFS + linux == easy
[01:31] <Tired_> I need to get at shared drives on my XP box.  What should I be googling to learn how to do that?
[01:32] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : file:///var/tmp/kdecache-mojojojo/krun/19580.0.
[01:32] <wolferine> ops, I mean !=
[01:32] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Whenever I reboot my Kubuntu, everything I was rnning when i told it to shut down comes back up, how do I prevent that from happening?
[01:33] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ paste in your output into the box, click the paste! button below the text box, the page will refresh.. copy the url from the address bar and paste it in here
[01:33] <foxx> dpkg refuses to remove anything, stating there's a EOF after field name `' in /var/lib/dpkg/available
[01:33] <foxx> Any way to fix it without a complete reinstall?
[01:33] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16934/
[01:34] <Morpheus_74> Can anyone help me configure my xorg file?
[01:34] <chemicalvamp> Morpheus_74 for?
[01:35] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: what are you configing?
[01:35] <Morpheus_74> Xubuntu fiesty.
[01:35] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: I mean. what. like, add resolutions?
[01:36] <foxx> So, any way to reinstall dpkg without a system reinstall?
[01:37] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: the refresh rate.  I can get the resolution to 1024 X 768 (what I want), but cannot get the refresh rate to 85 Hz.
[01:37] <chemicalvamp> foxx what you mean like "sudo apt-get remove dpkg" - "sudo apt-get install dpkg"
[01:37] <Alonea> should just change your res to 85@1024x768
[01:37] <foxx> chemicalvamp: something tells me that's not going to work, it's complaining about the /var/lib/dpkg/available being screwed up
[01:38] <foxx> But I'll try it out
[01:38] <drkns> hello back again
[01:38] <drkns> now thank you very much because first time i managed to get connected with wireless assistant
[01:38] <drkns> #ping
[01:38] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: So where the resolutions are listed in the xorg file, I just add the refresh rate to the resolution?
[01:38] <drkns> hello
[01:38] <Alonea> Morpheus_74: thats how I have seen other people do them
[01:39] <drkns> i managed to get to network now and i am using wireless
[01:39] <Alonea> drkns: no problem. I am sure they will fix the knetworkmanager eventually
[01:39] <Morpheus_74> Alonea: Thanks. I'll give it a tryl.
[01:39] <drkns> wlassistant works fine but it is with wep only
[01:39] <just-this-time> how do I do samba browsing in kde
[01:39] <hyperspace> wierd .. just went and picked up my notebook that i had upgraded @ the office from home, rebooted it worked fine
[01:39] <drkns> alonea thank
[01:39] <drkns> s
[01:39] <hyperspace> now i get a fsck error
[01:39] <hyperspace> no such uuid
[01:40] <drkns> i need to have wpa to work since i am going to implement kubuntu on the whole company network all the stations and servers
[01:40] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo hello?
[01:41] <just-this-time> drkns
[01:41] <just-this-time> good job
[01:41] <xjkx> does kubuntu come with kde by default?
[01:41] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek your the first local ive seen lol
[01:41] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : hi http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16937/
[01:42] <khaije1> what can cause a filesystem to disapear from a partition?
[01:43] <TomTheGeek> has anyone installed kubuntu onto a fakeraid mirroed setup?
[01:43] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo wich one is your external?
[01:44] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo also you cut off the output, thats not all of it
[01:44] <hyperspace> khaije1: are you getting a uuid error?
[01:44] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : its not on there i thought you mentioned that earlier its a /dev/sdb
[01:44] <TomTheGeek> i'm using the alternate install and trying to setup fake raid but it always says it can't find any raid partitions
[01:45] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : you're right that is the end of it though
[01:45] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek is it detecting all your discs?
[01:45] <iain> anyone here ever used USBuntu?
[01:45] <drkns> bye fellas
[01:46] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo "sudo mkdir /mnt/sdb1" then "sudo mount -t (file system) /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
[01:46] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : its formatting as we speak it is now writing inode tables 573/597
[01:46] <TomTheGeek> yes it sees the discs as sda and asb
[01:46] <TomTheGeek> and I can format them fine
[01:46] <khaije1> hyperspace: i was getting a fsck exit 1 error before, but after trying to fix it, i managed to make my ext3 fs disapear from it's partition
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek i never used raid before.. but why would you need fakeraid if your discs work?
[01:47] <khaije1> hyperspace: it's still there, but i was half awake are did a few disk ops including maximize (i think this is the one that did it) now it shows as an empty partition
[01:47] <TomTheGeek> i want to set them up in a mirrored configuration
[01:47] <chemicalvamp> ohh i see
[01:48] <TomTheGeek> it's two 250 gb drives
[01:48] <Jack111> hey can sb help?when boot entries comig up, the boot screen suddenly stops, saying looking for journal;
[01:48] <Jack111> if i start recovery sessions it says the same plus, soft lock detected on home and BUG
[01:48] <hyperspace> khaije1: yea trying to fix mine too hehe remotely restarted dist-update on this notebook
[01:48] <xjkx> by default, what kubuntu comes to burn audio cds?
[01:48] <hyperspace> xjkx: k3b is nice
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek lol 1/2 a terabyte..... cmon now is that really neccisary?
[01:49] <xjkx> hyperspace, i know k3b is nice, but would you tell me if its comes by DefaulT ?
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !ati | TomTheGeek
[01:49] <ubotu> TomTheGeek: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> TomTheGeek oops
[01:49] <TomTheGeek> i'm gonna mirror them, so only 250 gb
[01:49] <LjL> xjkx: i think gnomebaker is default in ubuntu. k3b is the kubuntu default
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !raid | TomTheGeek
[01:49] <ubotu> TomTheGeek: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:50] <xjkx> ljl i heard you would have to install k3b by yourself
[01:50] <khaije1> hyperspace: was yours due to a uuid problem? i think that is what happened initially, but in trying to fix it i now have a far weirder problem
[01:50] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent
[01:50] <hyperspace> khaije1: yes uuid problem
[01:50] <hyperspace> khaije1: know where to find proper uuids?
[01:51] <khaije1> hyperspace: did you do the over-the-wire dist-upgrade from fiesty?
[01:51] <Tired_> why does the link in the topic redirect me to non-Kubuntu pages?
[01:51] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seedrs on ktorrent
[01:51] <TomTheGeek> ubotu: I've gone through the first how to that you linked to and it crashes at step 5
[01:51] <LjL> xjkx: oh, wait, i thought you actually asked this question in #ubuntu, so what i meant was to tell you about gnomebaker really... =) but no, if you type "apt-cache rdepends k3b", it mentions kubuntu-desktop, so that would mean it's installed by default
[01:51] <hyperspace> khaije1: yes and was interrrupted due to remote box changing resolv.conf after jumping on a random wifi network and being disconnected lol
[01:51] <khaije1> hyperspace: it doesn't really matter atm since the MBR refuses to admit there is a filesystem there at all
[01:52] <Mena> TomTheGeek, ubotu its just a bot sysyem for the channel
[01:52] <khaije1> hyperspace: haha that sucks!
[01:52] <xjkx> LjL, thanks
[01:52] <TomTheGeek> oh thanks, mena
[01:52] <hyperspace> khaije1: ye ill get through it lol
[01:52] <hyperspace> khaije1: but yes it does suck
[01:52] <Mena> TomTheGeek, you are welcome
[01:52] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent
[01:52] <xjkx> LjL i have no buntu here, would you check if gnomebaker comes by default on ubuntu, would be off topic but as you mentioned... xD
[01:53] <LjL> xjkx: don't think so. gnomebaker isn't depended upon by any other package, apparently
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> !ubotu
[01:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:53] <wolferine> i just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"
[01:53] <xjkx> LjL, thanks
[01:53] <LjL> xjkx: i think Nautilus itself can burn CDs, though, if i'm not too mistaken... (KDE user here)
[01:54] <Tired_> Hmm.  IS Adept the Kubuntu equivalent for Aptitude?
[01:54] <khaije1> hyperspace: mine ran normally afaik, but on reboot i was welcomed to a brand new *problem*! i knew it couldn't have just been me w/ the uuid problem. the busted machine in question is at home, do you have any advice for when i get back to try w/ the missing filesystem?
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ kubuntu has both
[01:54] <Tired_> where do I find aptitude in the default install?
[01:54] <LjL> xjkx: yes
[01:54] <LjL> !info nautilus-cd-burner
[01:54] <ubotu> nautilus-cd-burner: CD Burning front-end for Nautilus. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 191 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ adept is a lil easyer for broswing if ya ask me
[01:54] <hyperspace> khaije1: my first reboot into feisty was np, then brought it home and the problem was brought to my attention
[01:54] <LjL> xjkx: and that's depended upon by ubuntu-desktop
[01:54] <xjkx> LjL, altough it doesnt burn audio :P
[01:55] <Tired_> lol, I'm getting confused, cuz the link in the topic directs you to use Aptitude
[01:55] <xjkx> LjL, would you check serpentine? maybe it comes with serpentine, which burns audio
[01:55] <Tired_> but I can only find Adept
[01:55] <LjL> xjkx: i suppose it doesn't, which would explain why most people get gnomebaker or (more often) k3b ;)
[01:55] <xjkx> :D
[01:56] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ "sudo apt-get install (package name)"
[01:56] <LjL> xjkx: you hit it, ubuntu-desktop depends on serpentine
[01:56] <xjkx> xD thanks
[01:56] <xjkx> LjL, just let me know what command  you using, apt-cache search package |grep depend ?
[01:56] <Tired_> chemicalvamp: I'd rather not deviate from the instructions until I have a working base system  :/
[01:56] <Mena> Hi is there a way to know the number of seeders on ktorrent
[01:56] <LjL> xjkx: no, "apt-cache rdepends <package>", which gives you something more interesting - the package that have that package as a dependency
[01:57] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp : I got this output,  mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ what does the instructions say?
[01:57] <LjL> xjkx: even more interesting (though i didn't even need to use it now) is "apt-cache --recurse rdepends <package"
[01:57] <LjL> xjkx: there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com for when you don't have an installation available
[01:57] <xjkx> Awesome, thank you
[01:57] <Tired_> "sudo aptitude install <packagename>"
[01:57] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo is the power on? is it pluged in correctly? and lastly is the port its connected to proerly installed
[01:58] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ apt-get is the same thing
[01:58] <Tired_> then they all follow with "sudo aptitude whatever" with instructions to see Aptitude instructions if you have trouble
[01:59] <Mena> Nevrmind all i got it heheh sorry :)
[01:59] <Mena> Thanks,Bye
[01:59] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ what are you installing?
[01:59] <Tired_> Feisty
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ download the iso, its faster in the long run, and its garunteed to work.. last time i used the upgrade tool it took me 6 hours and it didnt work, messed everything up
[02:00] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: yes all is fine its just that it is still in the formatting process, maybe this is why, it has been a while though
[02:00] <xjkx> LjL, i couldnt find kubuntu mentioned here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=k3b&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[02:00] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo how big is the drive?
[02:00] <xjkx> what have i done wrong :)
[02:01] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: 80G
[02:01] <Tired_> I have the iso...i've installed the basic system, and now I'm grabbing the rest of the parts
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo are you low-level formatting it?
[02:01] <Tired_> this is a brand new install on a brand new computer, not an upgrade
[02:01] <wolferine> i just added a printer/scanner into my configuration, I can print, but when I open xsane, its using my USB Quickcam, and I cannot see my scanner"
[02:01] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ oh ok
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ when you want a package and its dependancies installed "sudo apt-get install (package)"
[02:02] <Tired_> i just don't know what I'm doing  :)
[02:02] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: I am not sure, but this is the current output, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir
[02:02] <LjL> xjkx: nothing, packages.ubuntu.com isn't as powerful as apt-cache, it won't give you reverse dependencies - so it only lists packages that k3b depends upon, not vice versa
[02:02] <Tired_> what I really want is Firefox, so I can sync my bookmarks back and get the instructions I'd bookmakred before
[02:03] <xjkx> aww, sure, will have to check on *buntu xD
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ type these into konsole "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[02:03] <LjL> xjkx: feel free to just keep asking me as long as i'm online, if you don't have an ubuntu system easily accessible
[02:03] <xjkx> LjL, i am on debian here, would it be possible to apt-get update a *buntu list and check ?
[02:04] <xjkx> source list i mean
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ then you may wnt to update everything so do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:04] <LjL> xjkx: yes it would, but be careful to not end up *installing* ubuntu packages on your debian by mistake... that, of course, wouldn't make your debian happy *at all* :)
[02:04] <Tired_> do I need a dist-upgrade from a feisty cd I downloaded this week?
[02:04] <LjL> !final | Tired_
[02:04] <xjkx> Sure ;) where can i get the buntu's sourcelist? :DD
[02:05] <LjL> !easysource > xjkx    (xjkx, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:05] <ubotu> Tired_: If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.
[02:05] <Tired_> i just downloaded the released CD the other day (after I saw it on slashdot)
[02:05] <xjkx> Thanks !
[02:05] <Tired_> installed it on a bare drive
[02:06] <LjL> Tired_: there's been no updates yet since the official final release
[02:06] <jtt> ljl i was looking for that info thanks
[02:06] <Tired_> ok, so no need for dist-upgrade, then
[02:07] <LjL> no
[02:07] <Tired_> i thought it seemed kinda early for updates
[02:07] <LjL> anyway Tired_, if you're using a standard ubuntu or kubuntu installation (i.e. GUI and all), you'll be notified of any available upgrades from the GUI itself
[02:07] <LjL> at least if you have the needed repositories enabled, which you should
[02:07] <Search4Lancer> grrrrr...... since the upgrade, no coloring works in OpenOffice.org spreadsheets! none of the cells in this spreadsheet that are supposed to have background colors do.... they're still set to, but the color doesn't actually show up
[02:07] <Tired_> oh?  where will it tell me?  *complete kubuntu virgin here*
[02:07] <LjL> yes, it's probably a bit early, and keep in mind anyway that updates will be restricted to 1) security fixes 2) very serious bugs, at any rate
[02:08] <LjL> Tired_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list, and pastebin it, i can tell you if it looks ok
[02:08] <s17lans> hello
[02:08] <chemicalvamp> !hi
[02:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:08] <s17lans> i need some help with a make command for an ftp server
[02:09] <s17lans> :)
[02:09] <Tired_> one sec
[02:09] <jtt> s17lans, dont ask  just come right out a  ask :-)
[02:10] <jtt> dont ask to ask that is
[02:10] <s17lans> im kinda new to linux world so its kinda weird
[02:10] <s17lans> :)
[02:10] <Tired_> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: i tried fdisk -l again but it wont complete output and other shell is stuck on, ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir, and the drive light is busy red, any ideas?
[02:11] <Search4Lancer> so.... should I be reporting this as a bug, or....?
[02:11] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: oh its done
[02:11] <Tired_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16940/ <- /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <Doctor_Nick> !gutsy
[02:12] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:12] <Doctor_Nick> !kdevelop
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <LjL> !info kdevelop > Doctor_Nick
[02:13] <ubuntu> anyone here use 'Light-on' dvd drives?
[02:13] <s17lans> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16941/plain/
[02:14] <chemicalvamp> WOHOO finaly.. check it out http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ultimatewowgamingexperience2sc.jpg
[02:14] <ubuntu> wondering on the reliability of them
[02:14] <s17lans> thats the steps of setup-compile
[02:14] <LjL> s17lans: err...? you're trying to *compile* proftpd manually?
[02:14] <s17lans> im stuck to the make command
[02:14] <s17lans> hmmm y
[02:14] <LjL> !info proftpd | s17lans, it's packaged
[02:14] <ubotu> s17lans, it's packaged: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[02:14] <LjL> !ftpd
[02:14] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:15] <ubuntu> wow that rocks chemicalvamp
[02:15] <LjL> s17lans: the place you get software from is the Ubuntu repositories. resorting to compiling is only for when you really cannot find a package neither in the official repository nor in (hopefully good) third party ones
[02:15] <delphine> guys what about beryl stability?
[02:15] <MinceR> it would be nice to be able to use gtk themes in qt applications :)
[02:15] <LjL> !beryl > delphine    (delphine, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <LjL> !software > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <LjL> !packages > s17lans    (s17lans, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu i spent way too much on it
[02:16] <Tired_> does Adept keep a log anywhere?  it gave me an error, but it doesn't say what or why?
[02:16] <ubuntu> I heard on the radio that 3,000 dollar HD's in 2 years are worth around $400
[02:17] <ubuntu> $1000 HD's would be worth $200
[02:17] <ubuntu> thats why I say away from the TV section..............
[02:17] <ubuntu> the temptation is toooo great
[02:18] <ubuntu> the picture is outstanding
[02:18] <BluesKaj> HDD's used to be a buck a gig , now they're 50 cents / gig
[02:18] <xjkx> LjL, does kubuntu has a different sources.list than ubuntu? Just curious
[02:18] <ubuntu> I say who cares what it is worth, as long as it fits the need......
[02:19] <BluesKaj> Hidef won't come down that much , ubuntu
[02:19] <Tired_> what is libgdome?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu do i need a 50 something inch hdtv to play wow on?
[02:19] <ubuntu> I remember when they were buck a meg
[02:19] <ubuntu> YES!!!
[02:19] <ubuntu> lol
[02:19] <Tired_> or rather libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a ?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> lol uh huh
[02:20] <[Al] > Hlo. I upgraded to feisty using Adept and now kdm doesn't output. It says it starts successfully and it switches to tty7 but there's nothing on screen.
[02:20] <[Al] > Actually before anyone says anything I just realised it's probably my drivers!
[02:21] <LjL> xjkx: nope
[02:21] <txwikinger> [Al] : Are there any error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:21] <lupul> how do i start a shell script? plese :D
[02:22] <wolferine> how do I get my scanner to work (I have my Epson printer setup already) ?
[02:22] <vinces1979> lupul ./filename
[02:22] <lupul> ok
[02:22] <lupul> so i'm trying to start cube but it doesn't
[02:22] <LinuxRox_> during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?
[02:22] <Tired_> !package libgdome2
[02:22] <lupul> bad syntax
[02:22] <vinces1979> wolferine: xsane
[02:22] <wolferine> vinces1979, its not seeing the device, just my USB webcam
[02:22] <vinces1979> lupal: whats in your shell script
[02:23] <vinces1979> wolferine: lsusb
[02:23] <wolferine> pasetebin?
[02:23] <vinces1979> please
[02:23] <soulrider> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:23] <lupul> it'a a game "cube"
[02:23] <lupul> some shooter
[02:23] <lupul> bad substitution says there
[02:23] <wolferine> http://pastebin.ca/452025
[02:24] <[Al] > yep it was nvidia drivers
[02:24] <[Al] > My bad -- I'm not quite awake enough
[02:24] <ubuntu> hey guys I cant seem to get my HDD mounted
[02:24] <vinces1979> wolferine: what make?
[02:24] <[Al] > o/
[02:24] <ubuntu> I'm on live cd
[02:24] <wolferine> Epson CX5000
[02:25] <wolferine> but I am using the 4800 driver
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu "sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1"
[02:25] <Search4Lancer> holy jesus any little thing I try to do in OOo locks it up
[02:25] <ubuntu> ahhh hah
[02:25] <ubuntu> thanks
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[02:25] <ubuntu> whoaa
[02:25] <ubuntu> which one?
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu its a linux hdd right?
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> noth
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> both*
[02:26] <vinces1979> wolferine: all-in-one?
[02:26] <ubuntu> ahh ok
[02:26] <wolferine> yes
[02:27] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: its done formatting, should be ext3 now but i still cant find the drive anywhere except in gui, gparted.
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo "should be"? doesnt it say?
[02:28] <Alonea> segmentation fault means what in the terminal? and the caps lock button blinking?
[02:28] <Tired_> now that I have Feisty installed, do I ever need the CD again?
[02:28] <ubuntu> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:28] <ubuntu> I dont know what the address my HD is
[02:29] <vinces1979> wolferine: what does xsane say?
[02:29] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[02:29] <Shaddox> Can someone tell me what it means when you get a segmentation fault, and then your caps lock button starts blinking on and off, and then your laptop stops responding completely?
[02:29] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: its not in fdisk -l
[02:29] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu could you run "sudo fdisk -l" (thats a lowercase L) and pastebin the whole output
[02:29] <wolferine> doesnt see it, just sees my USB webcam
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo did you use sudo?
[02:30] <wolferine> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[02:30] <ubuntu> yep
[02:30] <wolferine> that one
[02:30] <vinces1979> wolferine: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-387616.html
[02:31] <vinces1979> wolferine: for 6600 but.
[02:31] <ubuntu> !Pastebin
[02:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: yes i can see all the other partitions
[02:31] <Tired_> what happens if Adept chokes on a package?  will it try to re-download it?
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> yay for people who out new kernels up on the repo without adding a matching restricted modules package
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> put*
[02:31] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:31] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16942/
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> every machine wont boot today, isnt that great
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ that will fix anything broken
[02:32] <Tired_> chemicalvamp: I'm sorta in the middle of a huge Adept session, and it shows errors on one of the libs
[02:32] <xjkx> LjL, when i looked for mplayer, i had no result to any *-desktop, so mplayer doesnt come with any buntu? what does it come with then?
[02:32] <Tired_> I can do that after?
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ ok, just type tha in when t finishes
[02:32] <Tired_> sweet  :)
[02:32] <wolferine> vinces1979,
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu this is just showing your slave drive?..
[02:33] <wolferine> how do I restart it, once I edit settings?
[02:33] <Linux_Galore> is there a restricted modules package for the new kernel ie 2.6.17-37 yet ?
[02:34] <ubuntu> shouldnt be, my slave isnt hooked up
[02:34] <vinces1979> wolferine: I would rec reboot
[02:34] <wolferine> i got it
[02:34] <wolferine> permissions
[02:34] <ubuntu> although, it is 250 also
[02:34] <vinces1979> nice
[02:34] <Shaddox> Ugh.
[02:34] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[02:34] <wolferine> yeah, was simple
[02:34] <wolferine> ill have to add a tutorial about it
[02:34] <vinces1979> usually is
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu usually hda is master, and hdb is slave.. hdc etc.. etc...
[02:34] <Shaddox> Does anyone know why "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" returns "Segmentation fault" and locks up my laptop with the capslock light blinking?
[02:34] <wolferine> remind me tmr if you would :)
[02:34] <ubuntu> hmmm
[02:34] <kendrick> ok, this is odd.. my wife's Thinkpad X41 laptop, running edgy, has lost its ethernet
[02:34] <wolferine> hehe
[02:34] <dave_mc> hey all how do you add a new repo via konsole
[02:34] <ubuntu> double checking
[02:35] <kendrick> ifconfig -a now shows her wired network as _eth1_, not eth0... and wireless NIC as _eth2_, instead of eth1
[02:35] <Linux_Galore> I woke up this morning to find all my Nvidia machine hang and go to the command line isnt that great, seems someone put a new updated patched kernel on the repo without a matching restricted modules package
[02:35] <kendrick> ifup eth0 fails
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu why are you running the live cd? is there another problem?
[02:35] <dave_mc> anyone know how to add a new repo via konsole?
[02:36] <kendrick> i googled, and the closest i found was someone shipped their thinkpad in to IBM and the repair folks replaced their motherboard
[02:36] <jtt> I found some nvidia glx related bugs. But to document them I need to get back to the native install of the live cd on 4/17. i.e. what commands do i use to revert to totally native X that would have installed from the Kubuntu 7.04 release
[02:36] <vinces1979> dave_mc: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:36] <kendrick> (1) her network worked since her laptop returned from repair, and (2) ifconfig -a shows the same MAC addrs as before :(
[02:36] <dave_mc> thanks you vinces
[02:36] <vinces1979> dave_ms: np
[02:36] <kendrick> any ideas?
[02:36] <wolferine> vinces1979, one more thing
[02:37] <wolferine> when I scan in xsane, and I want .jpgs, what do I do?
[02:37] <wolferine> import into Gimp?
[02:37] <vinces1979> 1 sec
[02:37] <kendrick> gimp can scan via sane
[02:37] <vinces1979> wolferine:in file name just remave to .jpg
[02:37] <wolferine> k
[02:37] <vinces1979> rename
[02:38] <wolferine> wasnt sure if it was taht easy
[02:38] <wolferine> thanks
[02:38] <wolferine> ill give it a try
[02:38] <vinces1979> usually is :)
[02:38] <wolferine> not always :)
[02:38] <wolferine> :P
[02:38] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: youthink it would be ok to format it to fat32 now
[02:38] <vinces1979> wolferine: or on main window there is type drop down
[02:38] <Tired_> is there any way to see te load on the repository I am using?
[02:39] <wolferine> in xsane?
[02:39] <Dboyggggg> Hey fellas. How do I go about getting my sound card to work?
[02:39] <vinces1979> yeah
[02:39] <kendrick> noone seen this eth weirdness? :
[02:39] <kendrick> :(
[02:39] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo if you can, you should be more worried bout getting linux to detect it frst
[02:39] <LinuxRox_> during the upgrade from edgy to fawn i got a box that had files that failed to upgrade  it had a link at the top to send the log files too...i didnt write it down   anyone know the url?
[02:40] <jtt> !info nvidia >jtt
[02:41] <Ace2016> how long would it take to download  ~125 GB at 20kb/s ???
[02:41] <Dboyggggg> Ace2016: a long time
[02:41] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: pastebin?
[02:41] <kendrick> 125 * 1024 * 1024 / 20 * 8 ?
[02:42] <kendrick> seconds
[02:42] <kendrick> :)
[02:42] <hyperspace> I have my /etc/fstab.pre-uuid in hand as well as my fstab that cant find the uuid's... how do i find the proper uuid's for the new fstab? these are reiserfs partitions
[02:42] <kendrick> whoops, that's megs :)
[02:42] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: do you mean pastebin
[02:42] <LinuxRox_> no it was something on launchpad
[02:42] <coreymon77> oh
[02:42] <coreymon77> launchpad
[02:42] <LinuxRox_> the box said the following files failed to upgrade/install clk here to report...
[02:42] <Arwen> hyperspace, 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid'
[02:43] <kendrick> if i've calc'd right, 1702 years?
[02:43] <hyperspace> Arwen: can i then just manuall edit my fstab to the correct entries?
[02:43] <LinuxRox_> i wrote the locations of the 2 log files..then tried to clk the link but cuz of the upgrade in process it didnt open firefox and then rebooted
[02:43] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:43] <Arwen> hyperspace, yes
[02:43] <coreymon77> LinuxRox_: is that what you mean
[02:43] <ubuntu> yeah it not even plugged in
[02:43] <LinuxRox_> ill try that thanks
[02:43] <Dboyggggg> I really don't know what to do. my sound card is not functioning.
[02:44] <ubuntu> could it be the jumpers/
[02:44] <ubuntu> ?
[02:44] <LjL> xjkx: no mplayer doesn't come by default, kaffeine comes by default on kubuntu
[02:44] <ubuntu> what kind of sound card Dboyggggg
[02:44] <Ace2016> kendrick: whats the 8 for?
[02:45] <kendrick> 20kbps is bits per second
[02:45] <kendrick> so 125 GB is 128 * 8 Gb
[02:45] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu: I really don't know. You see, this is not my computer, I'm trying to set it up for somebody
[02:45] <ubuntu> ahhh
[02:47] <hyperspace> Arwen: my uuid looks correct in fstab but /var/log/fsck/checkfs reports it as failed to open
[02:47] <ubuntu> is it a fresh install?
[02:47] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg, type 'lspci' in the console/terminal
[02:47] <Arwen> hyperspace, hmm... no idea then, sounds like a bigger problem - you could switch back to device-based uuid
[02:47] <Dboyggggg> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> that's the result of lspci
[02:48] <hyperspace> Arwen: any specific method of doing that? or just removing uuid and replacing with /dev/sdax
[02:48] <ubuntu> might want to use the pastebin dude
[02:48] <Arwen> hyperspace, replacing with /dev/blah
[02:48] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu yeah.. well, sorry.
[02:49] <Dboyggggg> I know better, I just was lazy
[02:49] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. Can someone help me with my bcm wireless driver, I tried NDIS but now it constantly gives me segmentation faults and locks my laptop up, so I can't use it anymore. X_x
[02:49] <BluesKaj> yeah sorry folks , I should have mentioned pastebin
[02:49] <Tired_> I was never able to get any distro that had ever been touched by Debian to work on my 440 chipset system.
[02:49] <Ace2016> kendrick: kb/s = Kilobits per second or thousands of bits per second,  so its 125*1024*1024/20/60/60/15 (15 hours since isps have fair usage) = 122 days, which isn't that bad really
[02:49] <kendrick> oh
[02:50] <kendrick> hah whoops :)
[02:50] <kendrick> i added an extra 1024 in there
[02:50] <Arwen> Ace2016, my ISP doesn't impose a 15 hr limit, lol
[02:50] <Ace2016> Arwen: its not 15 hours, its from 6pm to 11pm,, but it takes time to get back up to speed so i made it 15
[02:51] <Ace2016> from 6pm to 11pm torrents and stuff are slow
[02:51] <Arwen> ah
[02:51] <Ace2016> very slow, most of the time it stops completely
[02:52] <Arwen> Ace2016, try encrypting your torrents?
[02:52] <coreymon77> btw
[02:52] <coreymon77> i have alread upgraded to feisty, but im just curious
[02:52] <coreymon77> how much longer is edgy supported for
[02:53] <rjt> any reason in windows my resolution was higher than in fiesty fawn? and also how to configure dell wireless
[02:53] <Arwen> coreymon77, 12 months
[02:53] <coreymon77> 12 more months
[02:53] <coreymon77> ?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg, there should be more in that list...post in pastebin ..no audio controller is listed
[02:53] <Arwen> yeah, each release is 18 month support, 6.10 was released 6 months ago so that leaves 12 months
[02:53] <Ace2016> Arwen: then you loose all the speed from everything, then not even irc, or http traffic works, irc never connects and http speed drops to below 5kb/s, but by leaving it off i get to have http and irc at full speed
[02:54] <Arwen> Ace2016, huh
[02:54] <Arwen> your ISP sounds like a bad one, you oughta switch to one with a no limits policy
[02:55] <Tired_> i just give my ISP more money when they get mad.  then they go away for a year or so.
[02:55] <Ace2016> Arwen: but ourside of that 5hrs slot torrent speeds are great and i can download however much i like :D average at 50gb a month
[02:55] <xjkx> whats the name of that "add/remove" thing kubuntu has ?
[02:55] <hyperspace> Arwen: looks like switching to old fstab and replacing /dev/hdx w/ /dev/sdx is working
[02:55] <xjkx> What software is behind it?
[02:56] <Arwen> xjkx, app-install
[02:56] <kendrick> and just blame XP for fucking something up
[02:57] <ubuntu> never mind those 12 year olds in here
[02:57] <ubuntu> lol
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> /msg BluesKaj
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> konversation = lol, I know. it sucks
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: stop!
[02:57] <coreymon77> Dboyggggg: pastebin it@
[02:57] <Dboyggggg> coreymon77: I didnt mean to do that
[02:57] <Arwen> BAN HIM
[02:58] <Dboyggggg> pastebin isn't working
[02:58] <coreymon77> then use pastebin.ca
[02:58] <coreymon77> its a different pastebin
[02:58] <Ace2016> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:58] <Ace2016> that works
[02:58] <xjkx> Arwen, i installed app-install-data to test (on debian xD) and i cant find its binary :>
[02:59] <Tired_> is beryl going to be embarrassing on my FX 5200?
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> http://pastebin.ca/452063
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> ok
[02:59] <Dboyggggg> my sound card won't work
[03:00] <BluesKaj> anyway Dboyggggg , looks like you have an onboard intel soundcard ... you may want to check for linux drivers on the intel site first , then search around
[03:00] <coreymon77> it seems that kubuntu doesnt see your soundcard
[03:00] <Arwen> xjkx, try "gnome-app-install"
[03:00] <Ace2016> Tired_: nope it runs great on mine
[03:00] <Dboyggggg> BluesKaj:  no, it isn't onboard. it's a PCI sound card
[03:00] <Dboyggggg> I know it, because I can see it
[03:01] <Dboyggggg> and the sound worked when this machine ran windows xp
[03:01] <Tired_> good.  i'd hate to think I'd wasted two hours with Adept to find it sucked
[03:01] <coreymon77> well, kubuntu isnt recognizing it
[03:01] <Dboyggggg> coreymon77: yeah, I see that.
[03:02] <BluesKaj> Dboyggggg,  if you can see the card , can you read the manufacturer ?
[03:03] <Dboyggggg> BluesKaj: well, that would mean that I would have to check inside the computer, because there is no sort of text on the back of the card.
[03:03] <Dboyggggg> it is plugged in, ya know
[03:03] <Ace2016> Tired_: how come it took two hours?
[03:04] <Tired_> i'm also getting Firefox at the same time
[03:04] <Tired_> and two hours and counting
[03:04] <Ace2016> its takign 2 hours to download?
[03:04] <Tired_> yep
[03:04] <Tired_> i assume the server must be busy
[03:05] <Tired_> frst saturday after a new release, maybe?
[03:05] <ubuntu> chemicalvamp: does this mean I'm screwed?
[03:05] <Ace2016> Tired_: the servers went down on thursday but they should be fine now
[03:05] <ubuntu> I need to backup
[03:05] <Tired_> wonder why it's so slow, then
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu sorry i was minimized, does what mean your screwed
[03:06] <ubuntu> about mounting my hard drive
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> u can still mount it cant you
[03:07] <ubuntu> thats my question
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> copy nd paste it
[03:08] <ubuntu> I dont have the knowledge to do this
[03:08] <Tired_> "C++ bindings for GDome2 DOM implementation"  What's gonna break if I don't have that?
[03:08] <jtt> where on the kmenu is the restricted manager
[03:08] <ubuntu> I usually right click on a drive and click on 'mount'
[03:08] <ubuntu> and boom it works
[03:09] <ubuntu> k
[03:09] <Iwonder|too> hey,noob question,are there *ubuntu releases that come with low resource using WM?
[03:09] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu but your on a live cd
[03:09] <ubuntu> sweet it worked
[03:09] <Tired_> wo, Adept is tremendusly un-user-friendly
[03:10] <Tired_> errors with no way to explain, no way to cancel...
[03:10] <ubuntu> tru-dat Tired_
[03:10] <ubuntu> haha
[03:10] <Tired_> poor choice for default
[03:10] <Minataku> Hey, semi-unrelated, but: http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=39087 :3
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: kynaptic was so much better
[03:10] <Tired_> why is it not default?
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: but apt is best
[03:10] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu your not going to have permissions to access certain areas of the partition, if you want full access to it, run "kdesu konqueror /mnt/hdb1"
[03:10] <coreymon77> Tired_: it doesnt exist anymore
[03:10] <Tired_> :/
[03:11] <ubuntu> I have a 2 gig flash disk to back up to
[03:11] <coreymon77> Tired_: kynaptic was abbandoned for adept
[03:11] <coreymon77> Tired_: personally, i think apt is best
[03:12] <Tired_> well, adept needs much polish before it's ready for prime time
[03:12] <Tired_> "Error" is not an acceptable error message
[03:12] <coreymon77> Tired_: lol
[03:12] <Tired_> might as well be "Something is wrong"
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ did you ever run "sudo apt-get -f install" like i said?
[03:13] <Tired_> it's stil going, chem
[03:13] <Tired_> hasn't finished yet
[03:13] <Tired_> i will when it's done
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ that will fix broken installs, and configure unconfigure packages
[03:13] <chemicalvamp> ahh i c
[03:13] <Tired_> i assume I have to do that in a konsole
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> yup
[03:14] <Tired_> it's just that nothing freaks out a newbie like that kin of error message...nothing to Google
[03:15] <Tired_> google has 27 million hits for 'Error'
[03:15] <coreymon77> Tired_: another thing about konsole, its much more verbose
[03:16] <Tired_> well, after this I doubt I'll be touching Adept again
[03:16] <ukubuntu> Here's a quickie, when booting, is there a way to change the kubuntu logo above the oscilating progress bar?
[03:16] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: i am trying to paste  tail /var/log/messages output but am not getting the url, getting index file instead !?
[03:16] <coreymon77> Tired_: if there is an error, its gonna tell you in full language exactly what went wrong
[03:16] <Tired_> i'd rather have more info I don't understand than not enough
[03:17] <Shaddox> Hi everyone.
[03:17] <coreymon77> Tired_: thats what you will get
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo so you cant copy the text, and paste it into the paste bin?
[03:17] <Shaddox> I need help setting my wireless internet up.
[03:17] <Tired_> :)
[03:17] <Shaddox> Can someone help me?
[03:17] <coreymon77> Shaddox: sure
[03:17] <coreymon77> Shaddox: what card?
[03:17] <Shaddox> coreymon: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[03:18] <coreymon77> Shaddox: oy!
[03:18] <Shaddox> coreymon77: I tried NDISWrapper and it keeps giving me segmentation faults and won't work.
[03:18] <coreymon77> !wifi > coreymon77
[03:18] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: when i paste it opens up an index of file page, no url.
[03:19] <yonkeltron> could someone help me with my ThinkPad T60 and my malfunctioning brightness adjustment?
[03:19] <Ashex> is it possible to move the volume bar from the center of the screen?
[03:20] <yonkeltron> Ashex: really good questions
[03:20] <Ashex> heh
[03:20] <Ashex> It's just been irkin' me for the past few months
[03:20] <yonkeltron> Ashex: for sure...
[03:20] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo i dont know what to tell ya, pastebin always works for me
[03:21] <Ashex> what?
[03:21] <yonkeltron> Ashex: it upsets me that the volume bar is so huge and in the middle
[03:21] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: ok i'll just keep trying
[03:21] <yonkeltron> Ashex: i wish it could be semi-transparent at least...something
[03:21] <mojojojo> thanks
[03:22] <Ashex> hehe
[03:22] <Ashex> I'm going to submit a request via launchpad
[03:22] <Ashex> the mute doesn't work for me either :/
[03:23] <Lam_> if i want a command to run at startup, what file would i put that command into?
[03:23] <Noldoaran> I have install, kde 4 (beta) from the repositories, but i'm still in kde 3.5.6. How do i run kde 4?
[03:24] <Doctor_Nick> whats so special about KDE4?
[03:24] <ubuntu> chemicalvamp: what would I need to do if I cant drag and drop but certain things from by HDD to my flash drive?
[03:24] <Raytray> Hrm, is there anywhere where I can find out why strigi 'start daemon' button isn't working?
[03:25] <xsist> hello
[03:25] <ubuntu> I have the space
[03:25] <Ashex> Lam_, ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:25] <Lam_> Ashex: ah thanks a lot
[03:26] <Doctor_Nick> whats a good mspaintish thing
[03:26] <ShiftedBeef> gimp 2.0?
[03:27] <xsist> so hey how do you manually configure kdm?
[03:27] <ShiftedBeef> krita looks good to me.
[03:27] <Ashex> xsist, in what sense?
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu you can "sudo cp from/directory to/directory" to copy, or replace cp with mv to move
[03:27] <xsist> like editing the config file..
[03:27] <Lord_Maynoth_42> If anyone could help me please, I am about to go batty.. My NIC was detected and working fine(still does in xp) in xubuntu feisty, but it quit so I reformatted in kubuntu.  It says its an unknown device in hardware information.  I downloaded and installed the latest linux driver from realtek RTL8111B but it didn't do anything so I rebooted and it still says unknown device...
[03:27] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu or like i said run konqueror as root by running "kdesu konqueror"
[03:28] <Doctor_Nick> kdesu desu~
[03:28] <ubuntu> cool thanks
[03:28] <ubuntu> sorry for the nagging
[03:28] <Noldoaran> xsist: gimp is more like photoshop..
[03:28] <ubuntu> :o)
[03:29] <xsist> Noldoaran huh?
[03:30] <Noldoaran> xstist: oh, wrong person... read your from one line while i was read the line bellow, sorry
[03:30] <mojojojo> paste!
[03:31] <justin64> hello ;)
[03:31] <xsist> so hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...
[03:31] <xsist> Noldoaran: its cool
[03:32] <justin64> anybody know how to fix this problem: "hdb: drive not ready for command"?
[03:32] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu lol dont worry about nagging i like helping when i can
[03:33] <xsist> Lord_Maynoth_42 does the live cd recognise you nic?
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> no, but it did
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> which is why I am going crazy
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> lol
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I reformatted even
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> it still works in xp
[03:33] <xsist> and nothing?
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> just fine
[03:33] <Lord_Maynoth_42> nadda
[03:34] <xsist> what model is it?
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> its a RTL8111b
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> real tek
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I downloaded the latest drivers
[03:34] <Lord_Maynoth_42> even though it says the 2.6.20 kernel supports it
[03:35] <BluesKaj> AC '97?
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> Results 1 - 10 of about 429,000,000 for error i guess this means we have alot of problems
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> misstell
[03:36] <rjt> could someone help me out with intel pro wireless?
[03:36] <bobbob1016> I just upgraded to Feisty, but I can't connect wirelessly.  I had knetworkmanager working fine on Edgy, but now it doesn't seem to connect, I have WPA on my router, any advice?
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 whats your card?
[03:37] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: bcm43**
[03:37] <jtt> xsist, the file you want to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf  MAKE a copy first and be careful
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> can you get on a wired connection?
[03:37] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'm on it wired now
[03:38] <CygnusX1> Hello.  Installed Ubuntu Fiesty...all working nicely.  Installed Kubuntu-desktop...KDM comes up, but, when I try to login, the screen flashes briefly, and then, returns to KDM.  This happens whether I choose gnome or KDE sessions
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 see if wlan0 is in ifconfig -a
[03:38] <mojojojo> !paste
[03:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:39] <riggatone`> how do you enable wlan?
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> ifconfig wlan0 up
[03:39] <chemicalvamp> sudo that*
[03:40] <xsist> Lord_Maynoth_42: i did a little searching and found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=403362. hope it helps
[03:40] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: here is the output: sd 5:0:0:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x10070000
[03:40] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: there isn't a wlan0, there are two ethernets, and I'd guess eth0 is the one I'm using, and eth1 has a 169 ip, which from my XP troubleshooting experience is the ip when there isn't an ip
[03:40] <xsist> so hey after i installed the NVIDIA drivers on my box my kdm is acting really weird, the resolution seems stuck on 1024x768 but the image is 1280x1024 so everything is stuck in zoom... after i log in its all good but its driving me insane...
[03:40] <riggatone`> no such device wlan0
[03:41] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: [17192144.640000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[03:41] <Lord_Maynoth_42> how do I compile with the kernel headers?
[03:41] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 windows troube shooting wont help you here ;)
[03:42] <chemicalvamp> mojojojo sprry im no guru, i dont know what to tell you with that one, im out of info
[03:42] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I figured as much, but that's the only other place I've seen 169.***.***.***
[03:42] <jtt> xsist, the file you want to edit is  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:42] <jtt> xsist, the only kdm config i know about is kdmrc
[03:42] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 thats a network address
[03:42] <xsist> have, removed all extra resolutions but still have the same problem
[03:43] <mojojojo> chemicalvamp: ok no worries, thanks
[03:43] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 theres a bug involvng wireless card, mines bugged too
[03:43] <xsist> havnt tried kdmrc yet... thanks
[03:43] <jtt> xsist, there are some weird problems with nvidia restricted drivers I wont even go into what occurred with mine but I finally go it to work
[03:43] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 where they work on edgy, but not feisty
[03:44] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so what would you suggest?
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> try installing the windows driver maybe
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> i did it and it didnt help
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> !ndiswrapper
[03:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth_42> someone else said to use modprobe
[03:45] <Lord_Maynoth_42> what does it do
[03:45] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: you think a reinstall would work?  I have my home as a seperate partition
[03:45] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, it loads the driver if it is not already loaded
[03:45] <riggatone`> i have been trying to get my wireless to work on my delle1405 and i have gone as far as download the ieee and the 80211 files and when i go to do make install it tells me that i must put in duplicate=y, how do i fix this?
[03:45] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod and grep for your driver name
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> I am a n00b :C
[03:46] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and the bcm43** sees the my router's ssid, it just sticks on 28% in knetworkmanager
[03:46] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, ok  what is the name of the driver
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 hmm
[03:46] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: 28% as in connecting 28% done
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> RTL8111B
[03:46] <justin64> Help! All the Virtual consoles are outputting the message: "hdb: drive not ready for command". hdb is the CDROM and there's no disk in the drive. It seems (???) like Linux is constantly trying to mount it!
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 click it
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth_42> realtek nic
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> Lord_Maynoth_42 are you on feisty also?
[03:47] <Lord_Maynoth_42> yes
[03:47] <FireJet> Hi, can anyone help me with my Feisty install?
[03:48] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, execute  lsmod | grep -i real   see if you get any output
[03:48] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: Activation stage: Configuring Device
[03:48] <bobbob1016> you guys still there, not sure if that kicked me off or not
[03:48] <chemicalvamp> Lord_Maynoth_42 your card is bugged, its a known issue, my bug report is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106907
[03:48] <FireJet> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082159.0
[03:48] <jtt> Lord_Maynoth_42, there you go a bug
[03:48] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so do you think a reinstall of feisty will do it?
[03:49] <theringmaster> I am in need of assistance
[03:49] <posingaspopular> !ask | theringmaster
[03:49] <ubotu> theringmaster: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:49] <eljefe> can anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??
[03:49] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 doubt it
[03:49] <riggatone`> intel wireless and fiesty fawn is it possible?
[03:49] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: so should I wait for a bug fix?
[03:49] <theringmaster> My new install of kubuntu fiesty doesn't show a shut-down screen
[03:49] <FireJet> My new feisty install hangs at the loading screen, can anyone help fix this?
[03:50] <themanmike> how do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?
[03:50] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"
[03:50] <ses1959_> question on ntfs i have a second hard with a back up of files form windows
[03:50] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: I'm not sure, my other laptop has the intel wireless, and it works, it's ubuntu, and I setup the wireless in edgy, not feisty
[03:50] <jtt> FireJet, start it in recover mode and see where it stops
[03:50] <FireJet> jtt: OK, I'll be back in a sec.
[03:50] <riggatone`> edgy?
[03:50] <ses1959_> it is usb and it states to open in new window when turned on but it does not open any thing
[03:50] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: edgy is the last version of ubuntu
[03:51] <ses1959_> how can mount ntfs in kubuntu
[03:51] <riggatone`> gr
[03:51] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: couldn't find wlan, I'm going to my repos now
[03:51] <riggatone`> so i shoudl get edgy and not run fiesty fawn?
[03:51] <dac> jisao,are you running kubuntu 7.04?
[03:51] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: no, I'm just saying it's a maybe
[03:51] <ses1959_> i did have sabayon and it worked
[03:51] <riggatone`> lol
[03:51] <bobbob1016> riggatone`: with a leaning to yes
[03:51] <ses1959_> have installed ng-3
[03:51] <eljefe> ses1959_: you need to install ntfg package... not sure what its called, something like ntf3g or something... google for it
[03:51] <theringmaster> My kubuntu feisty doesn't show a shutdown screen
[03:52] <chemicalvamp> ses1959_ whats the drive's flag?
[03:52] <ses1959_> how can i tell
[03:52] <CygnusX1> Does anyone have any ideas on perpetual KDM login screen after upgrade Ubuntu to Kubuntu?
[03:52] <ses1959_> should be hdb1
[03:52] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster your install is corrupted, please check md5sums of iso's before burning
[03:52] <themanmike> anybody?
[03:53] <theringmaster> I did all the check i could do and the disk is fine
[03:53] <chemicalvamp> ses1959_ sudo fdisk -l (thats an L)
[03:53] <theringmaster> I am not talking about a live cd though
[03:53] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster yes i know
[03:54] <theringmaster> I am sure that there is a way to fix this
[03:54] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster boot the cd you installed from, and check the cds integrity, from the boot menu
[03:54] <FireJet> jtt: "ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)" or something is where it seems to die.
[03:54] <theringmaster> I did that before I installed and all was good
[03:54] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: which repo do I need for wlanassistant, do you know/
[03:54] <bobbob1016> ?
[03:54] <soulrider_> bobbob1016: all repos come enabled by default now
[03:55] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: says can't find wlanassistant
[03:55] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 try this, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wlassistant
[03:55] <ses1959_> ok have disk dev sdb 61.4 gb
[03:55] <theringmaster> use aptitude instead of apt-get
[03:55] <ses1959_> id 7 hpfs ntfs
[03:55] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 not wlanassistan... wlassistant
[03:55] <eljefe> can anyone tell me why my Fat32 iPod is a read-only file system??
[03:55] <jtt> FireJet, do you know about pastebin?
[03:55] <Tired_> mmm, that was cute.  after Adept took all those hours, it crashed
[03:55] <posingaspopular> eljefe: what do you mean?
[03:56] <posingaspopular> you can't add music?
[03:56] <Tired_> and, of course, apt-get works fine
[03:56] <eljefe> i cannot add music, folders etc
[03:56] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah, but I'm only pasting one line...
[03:56] <posingaspopular> eljefe: what are you using?
[03:56] <posingaspopular> !ipod
[03:56] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:56] <chemicalvamp> theringmaster no he doesnt want to do that
[03:56] <jtt> FireJet, paste several line above the error also
[03:56] <eljefe> kubuntu feisty (beta5 though :( )
[03:56] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: adept says it's installed
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: you dont add music by drag and drop anyway
[03:57] <eljefe> my kubuntu final didn't want to install properyl
[03:57] <eljefe> Linux-Galore I do with RockBox
[03:57] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 k-menu -> internet -> wireless assistant.. what oes it say
[03:57] <posingaspopular> eljefe: try using songbird as your music player,it syncs to my ipod video just fine
[03:57] <ses1959_> ok have fdisk and it shows boot * system hpfs/ntfs
[03:57] <FireJet> jtt: Well, it's a bit hard to remember all that information running from room to room...
[03:58] <eljefe> ok i have Beta5 installed and nothing is setup; I just need to get this done NOW for a party :( and then tomorrow I can play with Songbird etc
[03:58] <jtt> FireJet, is this feisty
[03:58] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: is started, and I clicked my ssid, then it said connection failed
[03:58] <FireJet> jtt: Yep.
[03:58] <eljefe> but the KDE automounter isn't allowing me to mount it with write permissions, not can I mount it via command line with rw permissions..
[03:59] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: it asked if I wanted to review teh settings, I did, and it has my wpa key
[03:59] <eljefe> " cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"
[03:59] <jtt> FireJet, does it boot on live cd ok
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: type sudo -i  and copy a file over
[03:59] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you can click manual and input your info maunaly
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: Nope.
[03:59] <jtt> FireJet, same problem
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: Had to use the alt. installer
[03:59] <FireJet> jtt: OK...
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: if it works its just a permissions problem for the user
[03:59] <eljefe> " cannot create directory `ipod/test': Read-only file system"
[03:59] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 do you have encryption on?
[04:00] <jtt> FireJet, alt installed ok
[04:00] <eljefe> no permissions are fine
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: I susepct you ipod isnt fat32
[04:00] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah.
[04:00] <themanmike> how do you get i386 retrace for a bug report?
[04:00] <eljefe> not permissions, it belongs to me
[04:00] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: stupid question, what do I put in for broadcast?
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> same as ip
[04:00] <eljefe> it is, I set it up with RockBox and it worked fine two days ago till Feisty (beta5 though)
[04:01] <jtt> FireJet, do you have any funny hardware in that machine
[04:01] <eljefe> i've been using it for over a year like this
[04:01] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and is domain the router, or mshome?
[04:01] <FireJet> jtt: Well, a new HDD and a new DVD burner...
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you can get away with leavng it empty
[04:01] <FireJet> jtt: Is this going towards<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[04:02] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: still failed
[04:02] <jtt> FireJet, perhaps  is the DVD a Lite-on
[04:02] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 you need the routers correct IP
[04:02] <FireJet> jtt: So, then yes?
[04:02] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I have it
[04:03] <FireJet> jtt: HL-DS etc...
[04:03] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: and I put it in, and it didn't work
[04:03] <jtt> FireJet, disconnect the DVD and try to boot on LIVE cd
[04:03] <djbailey> how is everyone tonight
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: sudo konqueror  then goto  /media/ipod  and check the setup  ie right click on the ipod folder -> properties
[04:03] <eljefe> nothing wants to work properly these days... sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdc2 /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/
[04:03] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 like mine is <IP_ADDRESS> (this is what you put into gateway and primary DNS) and since im the 5th comp on this network my ip and broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:03] <jtt> FireJet, forget that  i must be crazy
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Will I still be able to use it later?
[04:04] <Hasrat_USA> just finished dinner djbailey what's up with you
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: I have another CD drive..
[04:04] <jtt> FireJet, do you have two CD/DVD's
[04:04] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I did
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Yeah, luckily ;D
[04:04] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: the ipod will automount under /media/ipod
[04:04] <djbailey> i was wondering if anyone else was having issues with Kubuntu 7.0 and the WLAN0 interface
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 what did you ebter as your subnet?
[04:04] <jtt> FireJet, ok good disconnect the DVD an boot Live from other cd and see if ti comes up
[04:04] <FireJet> jtt: Alrighty.
[04:04] <chemicalvamp> djbailey https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/106907
[04:04] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: netmask? <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 whats your router
[04:05] <djbailey> thank u Chemical ill let u know how i make out
[04:05] <eljefe> even as root: Could not make folder /home/eljefe/Desktop/ipod/New Folder.
[04:05] <eljefe> nothing
[04:05] <chemicalvamp> djbailey no thats my bug report
[04:05] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: model is dlink, but it's internal ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: of course not its already mounted
[04:05] <eljefe> yes it is
[04:06] <eljefe> i can browse it
[04:06] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 so then your IP is 192.168.0.X   (X being anything from 2-13 in some models)
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: you shouldnt have to mount anything (I dont)
[04:06] <eljefe> even if KDE mounts it, same deal
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: kde does nothing
[04:07] <djbailey> oh sweet
[04:07] <eljefe> HAL then
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: hal mounts it
[04:07] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: yes
[04:07] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: .44
[04:07] <eljefe> I'm not new to this but I really have tried everything
[04:07] <Hasrat_USA> djbailey: i could tell if and only if i had a wireless network card. however let me tell ya I have seen almost more than 30 people come in here and complain about Feisty's wireless features, although let me assure you also that most of the people with wireless cards and Feisty are now happy and not having the issues they used to have before in Edgy
[04:07] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 tweak it, try new ones
[04:07] <djbailey> i was readins some things that said to change eth0 to wlan0 but i dont want to do that.
[04:07] <rjt> hmm
[04:07] <nano_> does anyone knows if there's an app for money management?
[04:08] <coreymon77> how do i get dcc send to work
[04:08] <rjt> all i know is ive come to accept that at this time my intel pro wireless for my dell will not work
[04:08] <jtt> nano_, kmymoney works good
[04:08] <nano_> thanks jtt !
[04:08] <rjt> but without my wireless it means i must sacrifice xbox live, so hopefully the fix comes up
[04:08] <chemicalvamp> i just boot my edgy live cd when i wanna do online with my wireless
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> eljefe: let me put it this way, I have half a dozen portable media devices and about twice that in computers, all working, now I supect you have edited something because Ive never had to change anything
[04:09] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: tried .50, .70, and .120, same thing
[04:10] <BluesKaj> got a big family , Linux_Galore ? :)
[04:10] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 when i moved from windows to kubuntu i had issues too, so i copied the addresses that windows used, and it worked
[04:10] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 i'de say remove knetworkmanager and try reinstalling it
[04:10] <eljefe> Linux-Galore let me put it this way: I have been fighting with Feisty for days now; first Friday's failed upgrade, then the failed install-from-CD, then just today a COMPLETELY FRESH, un-messed-with Beta5, so that I could JUST DO THIS.. Nothings been changed!  But, nothing is working with this!
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> BluesKaj: no Im a coms engineer
[04:11] <BluesKaj> still, why so many ?
[04:11] <eljefe> I too have had a lot of success on a dozen machines with a dozen devices, but not right now, just before the party, like always!
[04:11] <mweijts_> Linux mweijts-laptop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> is there anyhting analogous to sound recorder on linux?
[04:11] <FireJet> Feck.
[04:11] <Doctor_Nick> i just need to record me screaming into a microphone for a few seconds
[04:11] <eljefe> FireJet: same here bro
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> Bluekaj: because different hardware has different specifications
[04:11] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I have a few other ubuntu boxes, I give all my machines manual IP's below 100, since that's where the dhcp hands them out, so there isn't a conflict
[04:12] <FireJet> eljefe: jtt left just when I was gonna talk to him.
[04:12] <eljefe> lol
[04:12] <eljefe> well i gotta leave too, sorry.
[04:12] <BluesKaj> nvrmnd .
[04:12] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'm just not that kde fluent yet, so I wasn't sure which program to use
[04:12] <ubuntu> anyone have that ubuntu 'Christian Edition'?
[04:12] <ubuntu> I was wondering what the differences are
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 hmm well i kind steal my wireless from the neighbor, so i dont have "hands on" experience with routers
[04:13] <eljefe> christian edition has firefox with bible quotes, and a content blocker... nothing more that I know, but something I am sure
[04:13] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, you have to pray to make it bootup :)
[04:13] <ubuntu> lol
[04:13] <rbrtoclto> I'm using a couple of KDE apps under Gnome and I want to disable font hinting for them, so they match my Gnome apps
[04:14] <rbrtoclto> any clues?
[04:14] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: thanks for trying though
[04:14] <bobbob1016> chemicalvamp: I'll play around and see if I can get it working
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> bobbob1016 maybe you can look around on this:
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> !ndis
[04:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:15] <Linux_Galore> rbrtoclto: run kcontrol there is a fonts section and disable it
[04:16] <dac> with Kubuntu, do you have to have antivirus soft?ware
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: why ?
[04:16] <dac> I had to have it with windows
[04:16] <rjt> fuck windows
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: your not running windows
[04:16] <dac> 10/4
[04:16] <Linux_Galore> dac: there is no known active virus for linux
[04:17] <dac> right
[04:17] <dac> , so I'm safe?
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> dac: yes unless you randomly install software without checking
[04:17] <dac> ok, ty ty ty
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> dac: thats why we have a package manager it means the software hasnt got any nasties
[04:18] <dac> great
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> dac: windows needs a virus scanner for one major reason, it has no central software package manager
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> for everything*
[04:19] <dac> another?, which is the best  for email yahoo, gmail, aol?
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> plus, its much easier to write windows viruses
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> dac: up to your really, I use gmail
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> you*
[04:20] <dac> ok.ty
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> windows programs don't run in individual "boxed" processes like nix ones do
[04:20] <Tired_> I'm confused.  I installed Beryl, and there's a little beryl down in my tray, but it doesn't look any prettier
[04:20] <surgy> hello
[04:20] <dac> I ahve all 3
[04:20] <dac> have
[04:21] <ses1959_> ok tried this link for mounting ntfs but get error fs type bad http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> dac: you can intergate gmail with thunderbird and google calanders (gcal) so I use google
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, right click and select beryl as the window manager
[04:21] <dac> just think I only need 1
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> intergrate*
[04:21] <rbrtoclto> with window effects on, kaffeine doesn't display any video.. is there a workaround for this apart from disabling window effects?
[04:22] <dac> intergrate,how?
[04:22] <riggatoney> any reason why at the login screen i have a respectable resolution but when i enter X max is 1024?
[04:22] <surgy> so i updated to feisty using adept, it crashed while i was at work, i came home and my computer was at a black screen with a white blinking cursor, i cannot boot into recovery console or anything, i started downloading the feisty cd image using the live cd, which i am on now, is there any way to resurect my old install if so how?
[04:22] <Linux_Galore> rbrtoclto: most of the beryl compiz stuff it still very experimental, most of it wont be fixed untill the second release after kde 4.0
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> surgy, you can chroot from the livecd to at least recover your old files
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> s/it/is/
[04:23] <dac> surgy,replace th CR 2032 battery on your motherboard
[04:23] <ubuntu> how do I backup my bookmarks on my HDD from a  live cd
[04:23] <surgy> hitmanwilly, i can chroot....... can you explain? and dac, thats retarded but thnx for trying
[04:23] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu just save them to a bookmarks.html  file
[04:24] <dac> ok
[04:24] <Tired_> hitmanWilly: That gave me a pure white screen till I re-started X.
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> surgy, first mount your harddrive
[04:24] <Tired_> and now the little beryl is gone
[04:24] <surgy> hitmanWilly: they are both mounted
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, that means beryl is crashing on your system
[04:24] <ubuntu> no I am on a live cd trying to find where they are my HDD
[04:25] <Tired_> does that mean it won't work?
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu depends on the browser
[04:25] <Tired_> or just that it needs fixing?
[04:25] <surgy> Tired_: means you need to fix it
[04:25] <naegling23> feisty question here
[04:25] <ubuntu> firfox, sorry
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu different browsers put them in a different place
[04:25] <surgy> hitmanWilly: mind if i pm you it will be far easier for me to follow your isntruction
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> surgy, actually, you don't need to chroot at all, just copy all your important files on to some kind of backup
[04:25] <dac> I did lose my BIOS due to dead MB battery,
[04:25] <ubuntu> I always think of firefox being defalt, lol
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> surgy, go ahead
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> now whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?
[04:26] <surgy> hitmanWilly: it wont let me write to my hard drives
[04:26] <naegling23> when I go to hardware, and select my nvidia card, I open it up, and there is a section for standard or proprietary driver....but its greyed out...why?
[04:26] <dac>  but my box is over 10 years old
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu now whats on the hardisk windows or linux ?
[04:26] <surgy> hitmanWilly: and actually i just got an error saying my disk is full so i cant even download feisty
[04:26] <ubuntu> linux
[04:28] <ubuntu> I just backed up my data, now I  need my bookmarks and I think I will be done
[04:28] <ubuntu> ready for re-install
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu  it will be in /media/whatever/home/user_name/.mozilla/firefox/jumble_of_letters/
[04:29] <ubuntu> lol, what a   location
[04:29] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu Im not on your system so I dont have many answers for some things
[04:29] <kalorin`> surgy, type mount and see if htey're mounted RW or just R
[04:32] <ubuntu> sda2 is all I have other than cdrom
[04:32] <LM1> How do I force a hardware redetect?
[04:32] <ubuntu> and there is nothing in there
[04:33] <BluesKaj> ubuntu ...ubuntu or kubuntu ...you realize it's almost blasphemy to get advice in the Kubuntu (KDE) chat and then use Gnome Desktop ! :)
[04:33] <ubuntu> lol, Kubuntu brother......... always
[04:34] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu type  fdisk -l
[04:35] <ubuntu> ok...pastebin?
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu does the hardisk appear on the desktop ?
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> your going to need to sudo that
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> sudo fdisk -l
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: not on a live cd
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore im on a live cd right now, and if its not sudo it displays nothing
[04:36] <ubuntu> no, just my flash drive
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[04:36] <ubuntu> I can get to the HDD through storage media
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu look at the properties and it should show you the path to the hardisk
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu in the file browser of course
[04:37] <ubuntu> I see it
[04:38] <kpenrose> applying upgrade manager to dapper drake not very pleasant
[04:38] <LM1> how do you get kubuntu to redetect hardware?
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu if you can see the hardisk in the file browser just use that
[04:38] <kpenrose> gmediastreamer broke it
[04:39] <ubuntu> it says no files, no folders
[04:39] <ubuntu> how is THAT possible?
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu click on View-> Show Hidden Folders when in the file browser to you can see .mozilla in the users home directory
[04:40] <kpenrose> now everytime I try to update anything it keeps updating the same things over and over and never gets past gmediastreamer
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu  type  media:/   in the file browser
[04:40] <ubuntu> k
[04:40] <xjkx> By default, and i really mean by default, kubunto doesnt come with any dev tools, or i am wrong?
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> xjkx: true
[04:41] <xjkx> thanks
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> xjkx, no you're not wrong
[04:41] <xjkx> :))
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> xjkx: easily added though
[04:41] <ubuntu> yeah, that just takes me to my HDD
[04:41] <ubuntu> I cant get anything to come up in my media folder
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu now Im confused, you want to get the bookmarks of your hardisk and your on it
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu so whats the issue you have the path
[04:42] <naegling23> ubuntu why are you trying to get everything off the system?
[04:42] <ubuntu> no, I'm on live cd accessing my HDD
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu so you dont actually see the4 hardisk, just a minute ago you said you could
[04:43] <chemicalvamp> naegling23 hes gonna reinstall
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu I know that
[04:43] <Tired_> lmao!  this whole time, I've been nervous about Linux cuz I kept hearing 'Flash doesn't work!  It's hard to install!"  I just installed it in about a second and it works fine.  :)
[04:43] <naegling23> ubuntu, you shouldnt need to reinstall, whats the proble,?
[04:43] <naegling23> problem?  wow, typing bad
[04:44] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ flash doesnt work in 64 bit linux
[04:44] <Tired_> oh...that's the whole thing?
[04:44] <ubuntu> no no, I can access the HDD, I just cant seem to get anything to come up in my media folder
[04:44] <Tired_> wow, that misunderstanding has kept me off linux for the last six month
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: not unless you do a 32 chrooted install of firefox
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, but it doesn't work in 64 bit windows either
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> 32 bit*
[04:44] <coreymon77> hey
[04:44] <coreymon77> wtf
[04:44] <ubuntu> (the reason I am trying to back everything up is that I cant boot into KDE)
[04:44] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu media is where your cdrom / flash devices would be if they where mounted
[04:44] <Tired_> but I got 32 bit everyhing
[04:45] <coreymon77> i thought etc and usr and all of that stuff being hidden was being removed in feisty
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, you're cool then
[04:45] <naegling23> ubuntu, how far can you get into booting
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: so your install is all 32bit ?
[04:45] <LM1> is there a command to redetect hardware?
[04:45] <Tired_> I always thought so.  ;)
[04:45] <naegling23> ubuntu: and what is "broken"
[04:45] <Tired_> as far as I know...my hardware is all 32 bit
[04:45] <chemicalvamp> Tired_ if i wanted to run flsh on this amd64 i would have to emulate a 32bit firefox
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, intel? then yes
[04:45] <Tired_> intel, yes
[04:46] <ubuntu> sorry, terminology difference here. what I mean by media folder is :  media:/hdb1/media/
[04:46] <Tired_> celeron
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> !flash
[04:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:46] <BeauJeste> how can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution
[04:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:46] <Tired_> but it works.
[04:46] <Tired_> i just cliced Install missing Plugins
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, i run a 32 bit version on my AMD just for compatibility reasons
[04:46] <ubuntu> Am I explaining this right?
[04:46] <Tired_> and now my favourite flash game is up
[04:47] <naegling23> ubuntu, you might be able to fix your problem without a reinstall
[04:47] <Tired_> the fun part now will be getting syngery to play nicely with my old network
[04:47] <ubuntu> well, I thought so too, but I ahve to rely on more experienced users
[04:47] <naegling23> I just came into the conv. too late to know what the problem is
[04:47] <Tired_> does Kubuntu comewith any kind of default firewall?
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu why are you in hdb1/media  you should be in home/
[04:47] <flaccid> !info firestarter
[04:47] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[04:47] <naegling23> tired, yes, iptables, install firestarter to use it
[04:47] <flaccid> !info iptables
[04:47] <ubotu> iptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version <IP_ADDRESS>debian1-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 362 kB, installed size 1252 kB
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, i don't believe so, but there are several in the repos
[04:48] <Tired_> how do I shut it off?
[04:48] <ubuntu> ahhh, cause I'm a newbie?
[04:48] <flaccid> no firewall enabled by default
[04:48] <ubuntu> lol
[04:48] <ubuntu> trying it now
[04:48] <Tired_> i have a firewall on the LAN already
[04:48] <naegling23> ubuntu, well, its time to learn
[04:48] <shawn34> my task tray icons of running programs aren't stacking anymore... just going horizontal. how do i fix that
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, don't bother then
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: no default firewall but I usually install  firestarter  ie  sudo apt-get install firestarter  it give you an easy to work with firewall tool
[04:48] <RoboSheep> Tired, if you're on a switched network you don't need a firewall
[04:48] <naegling23> ubuntu, you say you cant boot into kde, can you get a command prompt?
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Tired_, unless you're just that paranoid :)
[04:49] <Tired_> hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them
[04:49] <flaccid> lo @ RoboSheep
[04:49] <flaccid> loll
[04:49] <coreymon77> guys
[04:49] <ubuntu> oh I know, casue I   could find any relevence in here to firefox
[04:49] <coreymon77> this is what ubotu said
[04:49] <FireJet> Can anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.0
 Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:49] <BeauJeste> how can i change the default font in gnome apps in kubuntu, like evolution
[04:49] <Tired_> Linux_Galore: I have a hardware firewall
[04:49] <coreymon77> well then why hasnt it been removed
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: if you have a hardware firewall and no services running its a none issue
[04:49] <Tired_> hmm...then I wonder why the other computers can't see my kubuntu box, but the kubuntu box can see them
[04:50] <coreymon77> guys
[04:50] <flaccid> Tired_: see ?
[04:50] <ubuntu> naegling23: no, just a blinking cursor at the upper left hand side
[04:50] <Tired_> on the network
[04:50] <coreymon77> why hasnt the hide files things been removed in feisty
[04:50] <RoboSheep> in fact it would be a problem for some routers to have a software firewall behind them (cough Linksys)
[04:50] <flaccid> Tired_: which protocol samba?
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> Tired_: if there is no services there is nothing to see
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: it has.
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> !hidden
[04:50] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:50] <coreymon77> not for me
[04:50] <Tired_> i can read files off the XP box in kubuntu, but the XP box acts like the kub box isn't there
[04:50] <naegling23> ubuntu, i just fixed a similar problem with my install...no reinstalling, what did you do before this problem happened
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: just rm /.hidden
[04:51] <flaccid> Tired_: if you are talking samba, you need to configure it
[04:51] <Tired_> I'm trying to use SYnergy to share the moue
[04:51] <ubuntu> lol, your going to laugh
[04:51] <yonkeltron> anyone notice that wiki.kubuntu.org is acting all wierd?
[04:51] <FireJet> Can anyone help me with this please: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.0
[04:51] <RoboSheep> Tired_: the samba service... yeah what everyone else said
[04:51] <dac> how do I get email encryted, I keep getting these popups saying about to an encrypted area
[04:51] <Tired_> samba is for DNS?
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu in the file manager click on View-> Show Hidden Folder  then you can see the .mozilla folder in the /home/user   directory on the hardisk
[04:51] <flaccid> Tired_: no
[04:51] <naegling23> ubuntu, I have done loads of stupid things, unless it was downloaded 73 gb of porn, then I wont laugh
[04:51] <Tired_> i thought samba was for SMB
[04:51] <flaccid> !samba
[04:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:52] <Tired_> my problem is DNS
[04:52] <ubuntu> I rebooted and left the room..... when I came back my 3 year old was sitting in my chair with the all too familiar grin on his face
[04:52] <flaccid> you never stated dns
[04:52] <flaccid> Tired_: what is the specific/exact problem
[04:52] <Tired_> i said it can't see the kubuntu box on the network
[04:52] <xjkx> what games comes on kubuntu?
[04:52] <flaccid> wtf does see mean?
[04:52] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu lol sweet
[04:52] <naegling23> ubuntu, so basically, you have no idea?
[04:52] <Alonea> hmm...how do you "middle" click on a laptop?
[04:52] <compilerwriter> What did he feed your computer ubuntu?
[04:52] <Tired_> XP box says Address Not Found when I try to access the kubuntu box in Syngery.  The kubuntu box can see the XP box fine.
[04:52] <ubuntu> exactly
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: both left and right click at same time.
[04:53] <CygnusX1> Alonea: left and right silmultaneously
[04:53] <zima> hi, I'm trying out live dvd of Kubuntu, thinking about installing, wanted to check and have a problem with video card - radeon 8500 dv
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Alonea: press both buttons at the same time
[04:53] <naegling23> ubuntu, lets try something first
[04:53] <Tired_> see = DNS nam goes somewhere
[04:53] <ubuntu> I asked him what he pushed, and he kept pointing to the space bar
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: are you talking about doing a dns lookup of a lan client?
[04:53] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: ok..but it just pasted the text again...
[04:53] <Tired_> yes!
[04:53] <zima> basically xserver starts in vesa mode
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: see doesn't mean anything. don't use see.
[04:53] <naegling23> what is your linux drive ID, example would be sda1
[04:53] <Tired_> what is a better word?
[04:53] <dac> how does one encrypt?
[04:53] <flaccid> Tired_: what is the dns server? you need to configure it by adding an A record.
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> Alonea: that's what a middle click is supposed to do.
[04:53] <jasin> Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?
[04:53] <chemicalvamp> zima yeah you have to follow a guide to install your video cad
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> zima: let me put it this way, ATi sux
[04:54] <flaccid> Tired_: dns resolution
[04:54] <zima> is it representative of how it would work initially from hdd?
[04:54] <Tired_> no DNS server, just computer names
[04:54] <jasin> Without formating that is.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> jasin: it's not an upgrade - it's just installing more packages.
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> jasin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:54] <flaccid> Tired_: either configure dns or NetBT w/ Samba
[04:54] <chemicalvamp> lol Linux_Galore got a benchmark to prove that?
[04:54] <Alonea> LeeJunFan: then I don't understand these instructions for the autothing for beryl...
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: were do i start
[04:54] <jasin> LeeJunFan, its a different desktop, configuration, not just mere packages.
[04:54] <zima> chemicalvamp, Linux_Galore: AFAIK Radeon 8500 is one of the best supported by open source drivers GFX cards...
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> well, ati driver support sux in general for starters
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing.
[04:55] <jasin> leejun, ok
[04:55] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore a link to a website that will prove your point
[04:55] <zima> I don't want to use ATI drivers
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: only one has kde one has gnome.
[04:55] <zima> binary ATI drivers*
[04:55] <ubuntu> hdb1
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> jasin: but you can have both on the same system as well.
[04:55] <flaccid> kubuntu and ubuntu are not exacty the same thing, but they do share the repos
[04:55] <jasin> leejun, thats like saying linux is linux
[04:55] <naegling23> jasin, actually, kubuntu is just a bunch of different packages, its just that a lot of them control the desktop and stuff
[04:56] <Liptontea> how do i change moniter settings from recovery console
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> zima, then you should be fine as long as you don't want 3d acceleration or anything
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: how about this, you prove to me ATi hasnt got crap drivers for Linux
[04:56] <naegling23> ubuntu: open a terminal, and type sudo mkdir /media/drive
[04:56] <naegling23> ubuntu: then sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/drive
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> jasin: no, they are the same thing, born from the same installing, repos, etc... the difference comes during install when one installs kubuntu-desktop which is a collection of X packages, the other installs ubuntu-desktop which is a collection of Y packages. only difference.
[04:57] <Tired_> am I still here?
[04:57] <naegling23> ubuntu: sudo chroot /media/drive
[04:57] <zima> hitmanWilly: but xserver doesn't even start from live dvd under "normal" mode, I have to use vesa (and open source r200 drivers do have 3D)
[04:57] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore why would you use a linux driver, when you can use the drivers right from the ati website?
[04:57] <naegling23> ubuntu: this gives you a command prompt as you installed user
[04:57] <ses1959_> in media konqueror i open new location and type /dev/sdb1 and get message to pick program
[04:57] <ubuntu> gotcha
[04:58] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i'm sure the folks at kde would highly disagree.
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: from here you can fix it
[04:58] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: you do realise that you said they are the same thing and yet different within the same sentence
[04:58] <ubuntu> ok
[04:58] <ses1959_> what program should i use to view the files
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> zima, hmm, don't use ati myself, not all that familiar with it
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: its a well known fact that the official ATi drivers are crap
[04:58] <Liptontea> i made the resolution 1280x and my monitrt cant run it...how do i fix from console back to 1024x
[04:58] <jasin> kde and gnome are nothing like each other
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> !xorg
[04:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: now comes the tricky part, figuring out what needs to be fixed
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> flaccid: I'm not saying they are, I'm saying the underlying system is the same, the only difference is the GUI apps.
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Liptontea, see link from ubotu
[04:58] <naegling23> ubuntu: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:58] <ubuntu> yikes
[04:59] <Liptontea> ty
[04:59] <robin_> hi
[04:59] <Zeddy> if i could ask a quick question (i hope)... Im trying to free up some room in my / (only has a gig left - for some reason).. is it possible that i move /var to another hardrive (a directory) and just create a symbolic link?
[04:59] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  thats semantics for the underlying system of all linux distros is the same, its the kernel.
[04:59] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore i got a $400 nvidia pcie card in my tower, the the onboard radeon on ths laptop smokes it for fps on wow
[05:00] <flaccid> LeeJunFan: i know. but look at your original statement.
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> Zeddy, should be doable
[05:00] <vbgunz> for some reason, maybe I am tripping, Feisty feels much faster than Edgy... this aint a frsh install either, this is an upgrade :)
[05:00] <flaccid> dont call them the same thing, because they are not
[05:00] <specialbuddy> has anyone had a problem with beryl and the menu
[05:00] <tmbg> where are the packages from e.g. apt kept on the disk?
[05:00] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: you mixing windows and Linux into your arguement now so this has gone into the realms of "stupid"
[05:00] <Zeddy> hitmanWilly: ta will try it... need to get some room for a dist-upgrade :(
[05:00] <vbgunz> tmbg: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> jasin: you're missing the point - upgrading ubuntu to kubuntu, it's no more an upgrade than installing openoffice is on a windows machine alongside MS Office.
[05:01] <ubuntu> its now asking me a question
[05:01] <naegling23> ubuntu: whats the question?
[05:01] <jasin> I agree with Linux_Galore, os debates are stupid.
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore no you said windows drivers
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> Zeddy, good luck
[05:01] <ubuntu> its long..
[05:01] <specialbuddy> does anyone have a problem with beryl?
[05:01] <ubuntu> I'll paistbin it
[05:01] <Zeddy> ta
[05:01] <flaccid> lets move on...
[05:01] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  I dont use openoffice.
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: no I said ATi sux, last I looked this was a Linux room
[05:01] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy its a pain and it eats up alot of cpu
[05:02] <naegling23> ubuntu: ok
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: I never mentioned anything about wincrap
[05:02] <specialbuddy> well I was wondering why I can't see my windows menu
[05:02] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i wont debate windows vs. linux.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> jasin: And I don't use gnome/ubuntu-desktop, but the point remains the same.
[05:02] <ubuntu> !pastebin
[05:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  find someone else to debate, thanks.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> jasin: I'm not either, I'm using it as an example.
[05:02] <specialbuddy> has anyone else had a problem with the menu bar and baryl?
[05:02] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958/
[05:02] <specialbuddy> beryl
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, have you tried in #ubuntu-effects?
[05:03] <jasin> LeeJunFan, well its a pretty poor example since office is not windows specific it does run on macs as well.
[05:03] <vbgunz> KDE4 is going to rock!
[05:03] <specialbuddy> is there a room called that
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, they're the beryl experts
[05:03] <Linux_Galore> chemicalvamp: ati do have official drivers for Linux but they are total crap
[05:03] <flaccid> Linux_Galore: they work fine for me.
[05:03] <specialbuddy> cool
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> jasin: and gnome and kde run on other unixlike/unix systems too.
[05:03] <Liptontea> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom  wont run this..... "no such file or directory...i tried it minus the sudo since its at root prompt
[05:03] <RoboSheep> Did evolution mail break in the upgrade?
[05:03] <flaccid> and they work fine for lots of people
[05:03] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore look up "official drivers" and both my laptop AND tower run feisty
[05:03] <Liptontea> neither runs
[05:04] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  i'm done debating you.
[05:04] <specialbuddy> thank you hitmanWilly
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> np
[05:04] <vbgunz> gnome apps looks excellent in Kubuntu 7.04
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, i thinked they fixed a lot of gtk compatibility issues
[05:04] <vbgunz> if only I could swap out those pesty gnome dialog boxes for the native KDE ones
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> jasin: there's no debate - you asked a question, I answered and explained the differences between ubuntu/kubuntu. I don't see the problem other than your willingness to argue and run.
[05:05] <naegling23> ubuntu: select n
[05:05] <jasin> LeeJunFan, i'm ignoring you.
[05:05] <ubuntu> k
[05:05] <flaccid> moving on
[05:05] <jasin> LeeJunFan,  goodbye
[05:05] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: they've done a wonderful job then because Gnome apps looked somewhat broken in Edgy
[05:05] <naegling23> ubuntu: were you in the process of installing/upgrading when this happened?
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> Linux_Galore we can sit here and battle opinions all day long, but if you want to see what is beter go online and check the benchmarks for yourself
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, that was actually a qt vs. gtk issue
[05:06] <Tired_> wow...this is really frustrating and unrewarding
[05:06] <Whopper> does anyone here use fiesty?
[05:06] <flaccid> ok this is kubuntu support chan y0
[05:06] <ubuntu> very good question!!!
[05:06] <flaccid> Whopper: yes. and with cheese
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> with cheese?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> :)
[05:06] <jasin> I wont debate desktops, OSs, distros,etc .. thats stupid stuff. There are difference, no two are the same!
[05:06] <vbgunz> hitmanWilly: once the gnome dialogs get replaced, using gnome apps that require them would be that much better :)
[05:06] <Whopper> flaccid: if it's not too much to ask, can i have your sources.list? Mine is not working for some reason
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> yet you keep talking.
[05:06] <Linux_Galore_> chemicalvamp: the only benchmarks out here are for Windows, I dont run windows so its a none issues especially in this room, last batch of Ati/Nvidia Linux becnhmarks i saw showed ATi to be slower
[05:06] <Linux_Galore_> there*
[05:07] <flaccid> !source-o-matic > Whopper
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> vbgunz, well, some apps can be compiled with qt vs. gtk support, ask any gentoo user :)
[05:07] <Tired_> why won't aarok prompt me to install mp3 support now?  i'm ready to actually do it, but it won't ask
[05:07] <Tired_> amarok
[05:07] <Whopper> oh
[05:07] <BluesKaj> gents and gentilles , seems quite a bit of disagreement happening ...bloodsugar is getting low ...take a break and have bite to eat :)
[05:07] <Whopper> well then
[05:07] <Whopper> nevermind :P
[05:07] <vbgunz> heh, let my skills boil over first, probably another couple of years :)
[05:07] <ubuntu> someone stepped me through the process, claiming it was easier to upgrade through his 'steps' from dapper to the next one