[08:12] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/bUfwt2BH
[08:12] <excognac> anybody can help me with graphics issues? i'm using kubuntu 12.04, i have no desktop effect whatsoever. my graphics card. http://pastebin.kde.org/poxlmbg41
[08:12] <excognac> I have no desktop effects at all
[08:12] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: that's gtk2
[08:13] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/ePe6gHxQ
[08:13] <mIKEjONES> same thing happens for gtk3
[08:13] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: yes, for the reasons I stated above
[08:14] <mIKEjONES> so... what do I do?
[08:15] <Voi> how is that opaque thing called that shows up quickly on the middle of the screen for example when i change the volume using my multimedia keys?
[08:15] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you're basically requesting an impossible solution.
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: I don't understand...
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: if I apt-get download the package, and dpkg --force-all -i it
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> everything works
[08:16] <ola2>   mike
[08:16] <ola2> i have ur solution
[08:16] <ola2> try this
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> excepts apt-get will complain and tell me to run apt-get -f install
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> except*
[08:16] <ola2> apt-get build-dep nameofpackage
[08:16] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you have a product+dependencies that wants to install to locations X Y and Z, you want to install the same product to X Y and V, "V" is ok as it's it's own space, X and Y conflict with what's there
[08:16] <ola2> it will download all dependencies
[08:17] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: do not do what ola2 says
[08:17] <ola2> ikonia i have that experience
[08:17] <ikonia> ola2: how will that fix a conflict between 32bit and 64bit pakages ?
[08:17] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: but I don't have the 64bit version installed, and the 32bit version does not conflict with any existing files
[08:18] <Ben64> i'm still wondering how overlay-scrollbar affects anything. it is literally just a scrollbar, not necessary in any way. it can be removed to restore the traditional scrollbar
[08:18] <ola2> did u try pae
[08:18] <ola2> try pae
[08:18] <ikonia> ola2: stop it
[08:18] <ikonia> you are just saying random things
[08:18] <ola2> im helping him
[08:18] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: there's a shared object file that ships with the -gtk package
[08:18] <ola2> no i have tried pae
[08:18] <ikonia> Ben64: it looks like it's the dependencies, rather than the package that's hitting the issue
[08:18] <ola2> many pae have worked for 32 bit as well as 64 bit apps
[08:19] <ikonia> ola2: stop it now, PAE is not for "32/64bit apps" it's a kernal to allow large memory space addressing
[08:19] <ola2> ya that will help him
[08:19] <ikonia> no, it won't
[08:21] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: long shot suggestion, depending how confident you are, you could build the 32bit package to install into /opt for example and see if that resolve the conflict, then work through each dependency that is not a library and do the same if it doesn't
[08:21] <ikonia>  http://pastebin.com/bUfwt2BH
[08:21] <ikonia> oops, ignore pastebin
[08:21] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: oy ok :(
[08:21] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: I appreciate it's not the one command solution you wanted, but just trying to give a realistic response
[08:24] <Debolaz> Is it possible to get the networked lenses in Unity on another button than super? I really do like the feature, I just don't want it to be on the same button as I use to search my local machine for privacy reasons.
[08:26] <derfetrr> de
[08:26] <derfetrr> hi there
[08:26] <derfetrr> i have an environment problem
[08:26] <loa> hello, some times my ubuntu 13.10 totally hangs (
[08:26] <atomx> After I upgraded to 13.10, I have a great problem. I cannot close any more the laptop lid, because it shuts down the network, and the internet is broken in the house (because I use the laptop to create a wireless )
[08:26] <loa> someone have such thing too?
[08:26] <atomx> How can I make it work ?
[08:27] <atomx> loa: reinstall it from scratch if you cannot debug.
[08:27] <loa> atomx, maybe disable power saving mod, and event when laptop is closed.
[08:27] <loa> atomx, how i can debug it?
[08:28] <atomx> loa: it is difficult to say. Debugging a system is tricky. It takes long time, much longer than to reinstall from scratch
[08:28] <atomx> If you are not motivated, reinstall it.
[08:29] <atomx> loa: for example, look at dmesg, and see if something suggestive is written there
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !details|derfetrr,
[08:29] <atomx> ... at the output of dmesg
[08:39] <jony_easy> please  help me someone to solve this issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322904/
[08:40] <ikonia> jony_easy: install the package build-essential
[08:42] <jony_easy> ikonia, ty, it worked
[08:43] <atomx> Can somebody tell me how to *disable* the callback that shuts down the wireless when I close the lid, please ?
[08:58] <Voi> whats the kernel of 12.04.3 and whats the kernel of 12.04.2?
[08:58] <Voi> whats the kernel of 12.04.3 and whats the kernel of 12.04.2?
[08:59] <Voi> nvm found it
[09:00] <Voi> hope i finally score with finding a working kernel supported distro
[09:00] <Ben64> Voi: what?
[09:01] <littlebit> hi people I tried to compile and install wine from source, and now I need to know how to uninstall / undo of what I did. can someone help?
[09:04] <Voi> ben64: on kernel 3.8 (12.04.3) my internet isnt working, on later kernels its working but i get GLU freezes all the time so unusable, older kernel linux are usually EOL
[09:04] <alexw> Huhh? http://paste.laravel.com/12GU I thought if I'm in www-data I can read/write
[09:05] <somsip> alexw: I would recommend adding yourself to www-data group (then logout and back in) and making dirs in /var/www to be g+s
[09:05] <alexw> I am in the group though?
[09:05] <alexw> groups says www-data
[09:06] <somsip> alexw: no g+w permission there then maybe?
[09:07] <alexw> what ls command do i need to show that
[09:07] <somsip> alexw: 770 on dirs and 660 might be better for you. But anything you do will be writeable by you unless you g+s on the dirs
[09:07] <somsip> *660 on files
[09:08] <somsip> alexw: though if you are about to install laravel, it only needs +w on a couple of directories so maybe g+s is a bit overkill for you
[09:10] <myndzi> doing a release upgrade, ran into this error: "supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Ubuntu release: 12.10" ... any idea what that might be? i'm prompted for a password afterwards, which throws me into a loop (preconfiguring... unknown release.. etc.)
[09:10] <alexw> somsip just trying to get write permission from a deploy user
[09:10] <somsip> alexw: g+w on the directory then
[09:10] <alexw> and also allow nginx (www-data) read/write
[09:12] <alexw> somsip there we go :D
[09:12] <alexw> thanks
[09:12] <somsip> alexw: done? ok
[09:12] <alexw> yup g+w worked
[09:15] <faraway> hi if on my headless server the server stops on grub waiting for a keyboard, cause of a previous bootfail in which log file do i need to search for that fail
[09:16] <ikonia> faraway: you need to look on screen
[09:17] <huayra> is it just me or is 13.10 so buggy that it is in the edge of being totally unusable?
[09:17] <huayra> chrome, firefox, system monitor, guake
[09:17] <huayra> everything crashes all the time
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: look for the common factors, research why they are crashing,
[09:18] <huayra> Anyone having similar issues?
[09:18] <faraway> ikonia: the server did not start correctly yesterday when i was not there. and was shut down with power of (or what ever) later. Now i started and it for sure shows up the grub menu.
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: others have a totally mirror experience
[09:18] <ikonia> faraway: right, so that doesn't change what I said
[09:18] <huayra> DOn't have time for this, I downgrade to 13.04 I think.
[09:18] <huayra> Or upgrade to Debian testing
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: ok
[09:18] <ikonia> ok
[09:19] <huayra> thx
[09:21] <sam113101> is there a shortcut for "fg" in bash/zsh?
[09:21] <ikonia> how short do you want the letter "fg" to be
[09:22] <sam113101> I mean, you press Ctrl+Z to suspend, is there a shortcut to do the opposite (fg)?
[09:24] <ikonia> sam113101: control z is paus
[09:24] <ikonia> pause
[09:31] <m3kk_> Sorry but what is linuxmint-chat channel?
[09:31] <m3kk_> Where
[09:31] <m3kk_> i was suppose to write where
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !mint
[09:33] <sam113101> why can't I switch to another workspace using my keyboard?
[09:34] <lxle120464> Hi am running  lubuntu lxle livecd but am having random access denied permission prblems with various programs accessing my data stored on hard drive Either music movies or documents Any Ideas ?
[09:37] <Ben64> lxle120464: lxle is not supported here
[09:42] <Pawnerd> Is it a bad thing to shut down an ubuntu server with the power button?
[09:43] <ObrienDave> normal shut down or the 5 second delay kill all shutdown?
[09:43] <DJones> Pawnerd: Its never a good idea to hard reset a machine if there's any other way of shutting down, it can lead to disk corruption
[09:43] <ola2> how to run a command with default options
[09:43] <ola2> means without asking anything to user
[09:43] <ola2> automatically fill values
[09:44] <somsip> ola2: what command?
[09:44] <ola2> openvas mk-cert
[09:44] <ola2> means any command
[09:44] <ola2> taking default value
[09:45] <ola2> silent run command without asking anything
[09:46] <somsip> ola2: what does the manual say?
[09:48] <Multiply> I'm writing a custom upstart script, starting instances, for each CPU core. Starting the instances by themselves works flawlessly, but starting the actual job, takes forever. No errors. Not output. It simply hangs. If I start it, ctrl+c and start it again, it claims it's started, yet it hasn't started anything at all?
[09:49] <ikonia> Multiply: put some debug in
[09:50] <Multiply> In the script, or?
[09:50] <ikonia> Multiply: sure, see what it does, and check the depends to see what would start/stop it launching
[09:53] <Multiply> ikonia, seems like it never actually runs the script, for some reason.
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:53] <ikonia> Multiply: ok, so look at what it is set to depend on
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> in ubuntu software center, if i search for apache it does not show apache2 http server
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[09:54] <reffcap09> hello guys just wondering does anyone know much about wineasio
[09:55] <reffcap09> i have no idea where to start on getting the files or compiling it
[09:55] <Multiply> ikonia, I'm not sure I follow.
[09:56] <Multiply> All it does, is "start on startup" and "stop on shutdown"
[09:56] <ikonia> Multiply: the upstart package should depend on things, what have you set it to depend on
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: could install it using apt-get, bit easier
[09:56] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: i mean, is that how software center works ?
[09:56] <sam113101> this is what happens when you have hundreds of windows opened: http://i.imgur.com/vUitMen.jpg
[09:59] <barzogh> morning:)
[09:59] <reffcap09> will anyone be willing to help me with wineasio
[09:59] <reffcap09> if so i would be very gratefull
[10:00] <ola2> how to run command in ubuntu with automatic input fill
[10:01] <ola2> sorry i waS DISCONNECTED SO ASKING QUESTION AGAIN
[10:01] <reffcap09> ola2
[10:01] <ola2> yes sir
[10:02] <reffcap09> do you know how to install wineasio
[10:02] <ola2> no sir
[10:02] <huayra> ikonia, it was the kernel
[10:02] <reffcap09> dang im trying to figure out how to install it for controller and sound output
[10:02] <huayra> started the computerwith 3.8.x and it works flawlessly
[10:02] <huayra> still on 13.10
[10:03] <huayra> so I guess I will just uinstall 3.11 and roll with this
[10:03] <santosh> Anybody using Hindi layout please answer this: http://askubuntu.com/q/367761/49715
[10:04] <fishor> hello all, do any one use empathy call? And do any one has sound problems on 13.10?
[10:05] <ola2_> how to run terminal command without asking for permission
[10:06] <ola2_> means input
[10:06] <ola2_> plz help
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !patience|ola2,
[10:06] <ola2_> sorry
[10:07] <ikonia> ola2_: it will depend on the command, some take default by default, others require flags, others will not allow default and require user input
[10:07] <ola2_> the command is openvas-mkcert
[10:07] <ola2_> ikonia i solved that problem of openvas
[10:07] <ikonia> ola2_: I didn't ask the command, I explained it depends on the specific command
[10:08] <ola2_> ikonia dont get annoyed
[10:08] <ikonia> I'm not annoyed
[10:08] <ObrienDave> yet
[10:11] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:12] <ola2_> ikonia : i found that too
[10:12] <ola2_> its openvas-mkcert -q
[10:12] <ola2_> i found this in many commands
[10:12] <ola2_> i found -f , -q ...
[10:12] <ikonia> ola2_: it will depend on each command as I said
[10:12] <ola2_> no sir
[10:13] <ola2_> i found for most
[10:13] <ola2_> -force type commands
[10:13] <sgo11> hi, I forgot the command/app to modify application category etc... can anyone tell me please? thanks.
[10:13] <ikonia> ola2_: most = "not every command so it will depend on the specific command"
[10:13] <dksa> how can I disable /etc/init.d/apache2?
[10:13] <ola2_> not every command but most of it
[10:13] <geirha> sgo11: Are you thinking of alacarte?
[10:13] <ikonia> ola2_: eg: look at "man ls" -f does something very different,
[10:14] <ola2_> no no sir im not talking about those commands
[10:14] <sgo11> geirha, yeah, that's right. thanks a lot.
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: what command, you said 1 command
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: eg: if you look at ssh-keygen, egain -f does something totally different
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: so it is not "most" commands,
[10:15] <ola2_> like --force-depends type
[10:15] <ikonia> ola2_: no, that is not command in commands
[10:15] <ola2_> so most commonly force
[10:15] <ikonia> no, it is not common in most commands
[10:15] <ola2_> no no thats parameter to force
[10:15] <ikonia> ola2_: no, it is not common to be used in most commands at all
[10:16] <ola2_> o my ghod
[10:16] <ola2_> im helping ppl here
[10:16] <ikonia> you're giving VERY BAD advice to people
[10:16] <ola2_> may be someone asks for same
[10:16] <ola2_> it helps i know it
[10:16] <ikonia> no, it doesn't
[10:16] <ikonia> it's "wrong" hence why I'm correcting you
[10:26] <nightcrow> hiya guys - I have an ubuntu machine that I am using somewhat as a proxy - i want to create a user which can ONLY ssh to a given IP from that machine.
[10:27] <nightcrow> can someone help me with this please?
[10:27] <ikonia> nightcrow: you'd normally do that at the server end, not the client end
[10:28] <nightcrow> ikonia: i see
[10:29] <nightcrow> basically, I want to give someone remote access to my 'proxy' and then allow them to log in to the 'proxy' with a limited user, where that limited user can only perform one 'function', with that 'function' being the ability to SSH to another machine.
[10:29] <nightcrow> ikonia: i would have assumed this would be at the user level
[10:29] <nightcrow> not at the server
[10:30] <nightcrow> because the server cant differentiate which (remote) user is being used to log in to it.
[10:30] <ikonia> nightcrow: not really, as you'd have to make ssh aware of which user was running it and have associated rules for that user
[10:30] <nightcrow> i see
[10:30] <nightcrow> so how would I go about doing this?
[10:30] <ikonia> nightcrow: tools such as selinux for example, would be an obvious but tricky response, same for apparmor
[10:31] <nightcrow> hmmmm, ok
[10:31] <ikonia> nightcrow: you could look at trying to limit it with a config file in ~/.ssh/config
[10:31] <ikonia> ssh does support "per use" config
[10:31] <ikonia> per user
[10:31] <ola2_> ikonia: u know kernel programming
[10:31] <ola2_> can u help me
[10:31] <ikonia> ola2_: why ?
[10:32] <ola2_> i want to work on it
[10:32] <ola2_> i studied file structure
[10:32] <ikonia> what's stopping you ?
[10:32] <ola2_> i have downloaded source
[10:32] <ola2_> i edited it
[10:32] <ola2_> but when i redirect to it
[10:32] <ola2_> os doesnot starts
[10:32] <ola2_> blank screen
[10:32] <ikonia> ola2_: I don't mean this harsh, but you don't have a clue what you are doing
[10:32] <ikonia> you don't point at the kernel source
[10:33] <ikonia> you build a kernel - you build it corectly, then you point the boot loader to use that kernel to boot
[10:33] <nightcrow_> ikonia: sorry, i got cut off
[10:33] <ola2_> ya pointing is i think problem
[10:33] <nightcrow_> please can you tell me what I missed
[10:33] <ikonia> nightcrow_: what did you last see from me
[10:33] <ola2_> how to pint
[10:33] <ola2_> how to point
[10:33] <ikonia> ola2_: have you recompiled the kernel after you modified it ?
[10:33] <nightcrow_> nothing
[10:33] <ola2_> i pointed in grub files
[10:33] <ikonia> ola2_: have you recompiled the kernel after you modified it ?
[10:33] <nightcrow_> just the selinux
[10:33] <nightcrow_> and apparmor
[10:34] <ikonia> nightcrow_: ok, so ssh does allow "per user" config files in ~/.ssh/config you maybe able to limit him by putting a config file there and seeing if there is a way to use "knownhosts" to block him
[10:34] <ikonia> nightcrow_: may take a little bit of research, but that seems a possible way ?
[10:34] <nightcrow_> ah, good idea
[10:34] <nightcrow_> i didnt think of that
[10:34] <nightcrow_> ill look into it
[10:34] <ola2_> ya ikonia
[10:35] <nightcrow_> and update you if i succeed!
[10:35] <voltagex> hey, why isn't ports.ubuntu.com mirrored like the ubuntu archive is?
[10:35] <nightcrow_> thank you!
[10:35] <ola2_> it compiled without problem
[10:35] <ola2_> i just want to check
[10:35] <ola2_> compilation no problem but pointing is i think
[10:35] <ikonia> so if someone doesn't have ~/.ssh/config it will use /etc/ssh/ssh_config - so if you put a specific file in ~/.ssh/config it will override the default and you maybe able to block him
[10:35] <nightcrow_> ikonia: wouldnt he be able to modify the config and knownhosts file though?
[10:35] <ikonia> nightcrow_: no, as known hosts is not restricted unless the server is only accepting known hosts, thats why I said it was server side
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: you could try putting that servers key in known_hosts, then making it read only so it can't accept a key from any other host, and thus not log him in
[10:36] <reisio> voltagex: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Ports
[10:36] <nightcrow_> ah, this is server side, not client side?
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: the tip I just gave you is client side, which is what you wanted, however if the server only accepts known hosts is server side.
[10:36] <nightcrow_> excellent
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: try the suggestion I've made, put the key in known_hosts for that user, then make it read only,
[10:36] <ikonia> but scrappy but may work
[10:36] <nightcrow_> thank you very much ikonia !
[10:37] <nightcrow_> ill do some research and ill update you if i succeed.
[10:37] <ikonia> ola2_: what is your kernel image called ?
[10:37] <voltagex> sigh
[10:37] <nightcrow_> bbl
[10:39] <universal> from where to get flash flash for new saucy and mozilla ?
[10:39] <universal> and where is dconf in saucy ?
[10:39] <Ben64> !info flashplugin-installer | universal
[10:41] <universal> Ben64: so I should do - sudo apt-get install "flashplugin-installer"
[10:41] <Ben64> that should do it
[10:41] <universal> what about dconf ?
[10:42] <Ben64> what do you mean exactly
[10:42] <universal> I want to open dconf in saucy !
[10:43] <Ben64> none of this stuff has changed, its always been flashplugin-installer, and dconf-tools still appears to be in saucy
[10:43] <zetheroo> how to install the ylib php extension in 12.04?
[10:44] <universal> but dconf came with ubuntu and looks like its removed in saucy
[10:45] <zetheroo> how to install the *zlib php extension in 12.04?
[10:46] <minimec> universal: sudo apt-get install dconf dconf-editor
[10:47] <universal> minimec: why is it removed from saucy ?
[10:49] <minimec> universal: If you run unity, dconf should be installed, just the editor is not probaby...
[10:50] <universal> minimec: well editor came with all the previous versions of ubuntu!
[10:50] <reisio> universal: all the previous versions of ubuntu didn't even have dconf, 'cause it didn't even exist for them all :)
[10:50] <reisio> apt-file will tell you what package provides what executable
[10:51] <minimec> universal: I am not sure with that, but let's face it. It doesn't really matter know, that you have it installed, right?
[10:51] <universal> reisio it was present in raring 12.10 precise natty etc
[10:51] <minimec> universal: now not know ;)
[10:51] <reisio> universal: I'm going to go ahead and say that that doesn't comprise 'all the previous versions of ubuntu'
[10:51] <reisio> :D
[10:52] <universal> lol ok....
[10:52] <universal> anyways saucy looks good - 1st day though :)
[10:52] <exalt> how is the top bar of unity correctly named ?
[10:53] <reisio> exalt: 'top bar'
[10:53] <reisio> or global menu, depending
[10:53] <exalt> reisio: okay, what do i do when my top bar is empty ?
[10:53] <reisio> exalt: I don't know, what do you want in it?
[10:53] <exalt> there is no global menu or systemtray visable
[10:54] <reisio> maybe those processes aren't running
[10:54] <exalt> reisio: how to start them ?
[10:55] <jboii> hi
[10:56] <jboii> can someone help me with an issue?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> exalt... right click on the bar and ADD to your heart's content
[10:56] <reisio> exalt: does dpkg -L indicator-appmenu produce any output?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> !ask|jboii,
[10:58] <jboii> i have just broken y monitor screen , and i got a monitor so i could still use my laptop , my issue is now that the usb mouse wont work , how can i fix this
[10:59] <cfhowlett> jboii, things to check: battery, LED ...
[10:59] <ObrienDave> connection,
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> jboii: maybe the ##hardware guys might wanna help you aswell
[11:00] <ObrienDave> don't break laptop displays... ;)
[11:01] <reisio> jboii: maybe your system thinks you're using two monitors, and the mouse cursor is on the one that's broken
[11:01] <Zerant> did someone got ubuntu 12.04 LTS Server on an Rapsberry Pi running yet?
[11:01] <jboii> the laptop mouse still works
[11:01] <cfhowlett> reisio, clever boy.  I didn't even think of that possibility
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !pi
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !raspberry
[11:02] <jboii> is there and app i can see if i can fix this ?
[11:02] <jboii> i need it to function
[11:02] <johnflux_> Hey all
[11:02] <reisio> Zerant: probably someone did, but officially Ubuntu doesn't support the arch for rpi
[11:02] <reisio> Zerant: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi#Should_I_buy_a_Rasberry_Pi.3F
[11:02] <johnflux_> I have a package that relies on "ia32-libs"   but this package doesn't seem to exist any more
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> johnflux_: hi mate, what can we do for you
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !info ia32-libs
[11:03] <reisio> johnflux_: any particular package?
[11:03] <johnflux_> reisio: the package that I want to install?  Something android package that I can't change
[11:04] <reisio> johnflux_: something android package that you can't change that you can specify by name?
[11:04] <ahoneybun> Zerant, not sure if there is a ARM port of it
[11:04] <Zerant> reisio: damn got an pi to my birthday from my girlfriend :D want to use it as an nagios server ...
[11:04] <johnflux_> reisio: yes, it's called xy-build-essentials
[11:05] <johnflux_> reisio: some propreitary / self packaged package
[11:05] <anand24nov> hi anyone knows about softdog kernel module
[11:05] <HisaoNakai> thanks for that link, reisio
[11:06] <anand24nov> I am facing problem in softdog its configured with 5 minutes timeout but even puncinh it successfully it calls watchdog_fire
[11:07] <reisio> Zerant: and only ubuntu has nagios in your head?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> reisio, good god, man.  I read that line out of context and it sounds SO wrong!
[11:08] <Ben64> Zerant: join #raspberrypi
[11:08] <exalt> ObrienDave: no reaction, reisio yes it shows paths to /usr/share/* /usr/lib/* and /etc/apport/*
[11:08] <Zerant> reisio: no, but i got ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on my Online Server and my HomeServer, so i wanted to keep the system everwhere else ;)
[11:08] <Zerant> Ben64: sweet thanks
[11:09] <reisio> cfhowlett: :p
[11:09] <reisio> Zerant: raspbian is going to be largely the same
[11:10] <Zerant> reisio: yeah just thought i could keep ubuntu ;) know that raspbian is nearly the same
[11:11] <reisio> Zerant: you probably can, with a lot more work than it'd be worth :)
[11:11] <reisio> like, more work than it would be to convert raspbian to the same thing
[11:11] <marlo_> any tricks to getting remote desktop sharing to go?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Zerant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/212346/can-a-raspberry-pi-run-ubuntu
[11:11] <XxOblivionxX> c0dered
[11:11] <johnflux_> with apt-get install, can I tell it to ignore dependencies?
[11:12] <marlo_> installed it, connected via vns, but i see no screen
[11:12] <marlo_> vnc
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | marlo_
[11:12] <reisio> marlo_: what do you see?
[11:12] <Ben64> johnflux_: sometimes, but they're called "dependencies" for a reason -- they are required for operation
[11:12] <marlo_> just a big black window
[11:12] <marlo_> no 'desktop'
[11:12] <reisio> marlo_: and if you right click?
[11:12] <jboii> anyone know how i can get my usb mouse to function while on a monitor ?
[11:13] <johnflux_> Ben64: yes, but it depends on ia32-libs  which has been removed from ubuntu :-(
[11:13] <otaku> hello everyone
[11:13] <reisio> 'lo otaku
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> otaku: hello mate, what can we do for you?
[11:13] <Ben64> johnflux_: nothing depends on ia32-libs, maybe 32 bit libraries, but those are still in ubuntu
[11:13] <cfhowlett> otaku, greetings
[11:13] <marlo_> reisio, nothing, albeit, this 'destkop' is on ctrl-alt-F8... another active login
[11:13] <Zerant> lotuspsychje: thanks ;)
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Zerant: np
[11:14] <otaku> how can i find an dvd iso for 13.10
[11:14] <marlo_> unless perhaps i need to restart X or something
[11:14] <reisio> otaku: why do you want one?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> otaku, it's on the main download site
[11:14] <johnflux_> Ben64: It's a package from a non-standard repo
[11:14] <Ben64> johnflux_: what is it
[11:14] <otaku> where?
[11:15] <reisio> otaku: http://ftp.cs.pu.edu.tw/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/13.10/
[11:15] <johnflux_> Ben64: an internal company package  that installs required software
[11:15] <Ben64> johnflux_: well then you'll need to find out what it needs and install it
[11:17] <otaku> i've just find a 883m iso
[11:17] <Ben64> otaku: yep, now burn it to a dvd
[11:17] <cfhowlett> otaku,  or make a usb
[11:17] <otaku> but i want the 4gb+ one
[11:18] <reisio> otaku: why do you want such a thing?
[11:18] <marlo_> reisio, it has something to do with that i'm running that X session in a different... logon ? session ? not sure what to call it  the ctrl-alt-F7/F8 thing
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: tty
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: it's possible there is no DE configured to run, but unlikely
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> otaku: you can burn a 883mb iso on a dvd aswell
[11:19] <marlo_> it runs
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: what does pgrep -l X | wc -l say?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> otaku: or you searching for a 4gb iso?
[11:19] <marlo_> in f8 tty or the f7 tty i'm in now?
[11:19] <marlo_> or does it matter
[11:20] <otaku> yes
[11:20] <marlo_> reisio, 3
[11:21] <marlo_> two Xorg and one Vbox
[11:21] <otaku> i tried to google, but can't find it
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> otaku: ubuntu uses 883mb iso, then downloads the updates from the web
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> otaku: its not like those suse iso's from 4gig
[11:21] <cfhowlett> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads     are your choices.
[11:22] <xiaopi[z]> well 883 doesn't fit on a cd and you need at least a dvd.. better put the whole 4gb worth of package :D
[11:23] <xiaopi[z]> if people want to get their package or update online, just go for a netinstall
[11:23] <reisio> marlo_: did you want a new X to be started, or to connect to an existing one?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> xiaopi[z]: you can always use usb
[11:24] <xiaopi[z]> 4g usb is pretty standard nowadays
[11:25] <marlo_> reisio, well.. i don't really want another X, I already have one on ctrl-alt-F8... pretty much just want to connect to that one.   i remember years ago you could start a vnc/X session from a tty... that mustv been 6 years ago
[11:25] <marlo_> it was klunky, but it worked
[11:25] <otaku> may i ask a question? is 12.10 support the ubuntu phone OS install?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !touch|otaku
[11:26] <otaku> oh
[11:26] <marlo_> i'll just do it in my primary tty, that will handle the problem
[11:26] <Lynxx> hello
[11:26] <Lynxx> i have a q
[11:27] <Lynxx> how to open another server window in irssi
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Lynxx,
[11:27] <reisio> Lynxx: /help server
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|Lynxx,
[11:27] <cer> hi everybody. I would like to try unity, but I am currently running a stable production kubuntu machine. I have installed the Unity meta package, but lightdm does not offer me the option of chosing unity.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/irssi
[11:28] <cer> Any clue about how to launch Unity instead of KDE?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: /connect /c These open a new connection to a server. This is what you want to use in order to connect to multiple servers simultaneously (Ctrl+X switches between multiple servers).
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Lynxx  irssi has a local help file in your folders, somewhere file:///usr/share/doc/irssi/startup-HOWTO.html
[11:28] <Lynxx> thanks ActionParsnip  :)
[11:28] <reisio> it has all its help info in /help
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> cer: log off, select the Ubuntu session from the login page
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: couldnt find that online?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: all I did was search
[11:29] <Lynxx> was being lazy ActionParsnip  :P
[11:29] <cer> ActionParsnip: that is the point .... it does NOT offer me the Ubuntu session from the login page (the lighdm login page)
[11:29] <reisio> I was lazy ActionParsnip for halloween last year
[11:29] <Lynxx> lol reisio
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cer: is there not a session changer at the bottom after you click your user name (I assume you use kdm)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> cer: look for 'session type' maybe, just read the enire screen
[11:31] <cer> ActionParsnip: nope, I use lightdm, it is the deafult on all *ubuntu releases. when you click the session changer, unity is not shown.
[11:32] <cer> ActionParsnip: 'course I have done that. :)
[11:35] <minimec> cer: What was the 'unity meta package' you installed 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[11:36] <cer> minimec: nope, unity 7.1.2 64bit
[11:37] <minimec> cer: Ok. That is the source of the problem, I guess. So let's create a Desktop entry by hand.
[11:38] <OerHeks> cer unity is just the sidebar, install ubuntu-desktop to get the 'unity-session'
[11:39] <minimec> cer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6323517/
[11:39] <cer> OerHeks: the whole lot? mmmm .... this is really not what I would like.
[11:40] <minimec> cer: This will create a lightdm Desktop Entry for Unity. Maybe it works like that.
[11:40] <cer> minimec: that is a splendid idea, I had not though about it! thanks a lot ....
[11:41] <OerHeks> cer you could install the basic without all the apps, --without-recommends
[11:42] <OerHeks> wrong > --no-install-recommends
[11:44] <cer> OerHeks: that wuld be good as well, but it is still filling my installation with a lot of stuff I would prefer not to have.
[11:45] <OerHeks> cer, so then you won't  have unity desktop, installing unity is just not enough
[11:45] <murgero> Hey guys!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> murgero, greetings
[11:46] <murgero> How is everyone today?
[11:47] <NoSpoon42> hi
[11:47] <cer> OerHeks: thanks .... do you think minimec approach wold not work?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> NoSpoon42, greetings
[11:48] <OerHeks> cer, i think not, but you can try it out.
[11:49] <pseubodot> Trying to diagnose an X problem, post 13.04 -> 13.10 upgrade, all was working fine before. Nvidia card, nvidia-319 drivers installed during upgrade. Initial reboot after upgrade was fine, X came up, etc,  but in about a day or so X stopped displaying. X seems to be running (shelled in from another box). Whether I run X via lightdm or manually via startx (as my user or as root) the same thing happens. No obvious ERROR lines in Xorg.0.log or X.failsa
[11:50] <pseubodot> One clue is that X seems to cycle through monitor ID three times, in that a line like this '[240011.129] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (DELL 3007WFP (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[11:50] <pseubodot> [240011.129] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[11:50] <pseubodot> ' comes out 3 times with different time stamps/
[11:51] <pseubodot> I downgraded drivers to nvidia-304 but no change.
[11:51] <OerHeks> cer, you can perform'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends'  and see what the size of the desktop will be, you can cancel it anyway
[11:51] <n008> anyone using irssi ?
[11:51] <n008> how do I close a tab?
[11:51] <cer> OerHeks: yes, of course .... I have already done it.
[11:51] <pseubodot> n008: /window close ?
[11:51] <OerHeks> man irssi
[11:51] <n008> pseubodot: sweet
[11:52] <n008> pseubodot: shorter?
[11:52] <n008>  /window close is verbose
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: and in penance, please read the man page
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: :)
[11:52] <nabn> hi. yesterday i tried to install a software named dikto. I remember adding a line in /etc/apt/sources.list. while 'apt-get update' -ing, i get a key error like this:    W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E3757B8E0D988D6E
[11:52] <nabn>       how do i solve this?
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: no, I'm short enough, thanks. :)
[11:52] <n008> pseubodot: will always read the man page
[11:52] <cer> nabn: well, you need to add the key for the repopsitory
[11:52] <n008> always
[11:53] <cer> nabn: go back to the website and look for the key.
[11:53] <pseubodot> n008: excellent
[11:53] <n008> thank you Lord pseubodot
[11:53] <nabn> cer, i don't remember the website..
[11:53] <n008> man irrsi
[11:53] <pseubodot> n008: o/~ and we'll never be roooyaaaaals .... o/~ :)
[11:54] <pseubodot> n008: Oh. Not 'Lorde'. nevermind. :)
[11:54] <cer> nabn: ops .... that may be a problem .... you see apt is telling you that it does not have the key .... either you have it or not
[11:54] <nabn> cer, since the software is not installed, i can do with not having to check for the key. do you know of any way to do that?
[11:54] <n008> :p
[11:54] <cer> nabn: well, the best thing is to actually remove the repository from the list.
[11:54] <nabn> cer. yes. how do i do that?
[11:54]  * pseubodot does 'service coffeepot reload'
[11:55] <cer> nabn: what package manager do you use? open the package manager, go in the section for managing software source, and remove the repository.
[11:55] <n008> pseubodot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFasFq4GJYM
[11:56] <nabn> cer, apt-get. i removed the line from /etc/apt/sources.list . is there anything else i need to do?
[11:56] <cer> nabn: nope .... did you remove the source as well?
[11:57] <cer> nabn: the source code entry I mean/
[11:57] <nabn> cer, i don't think so. how do i remove an installed deb file please? ( i used dpkg -i to install it)
[11:57] <cer> nabn: I suggest apt-get purge package-name
[11:57] <nabn> cer, i'll try that. thanks.
[11:58] <cer> nabn: so you clean the system from the configuration files. Alternatively dpkg --purge package-name.
[11:59] <nabn> cer, it says the software isn't installed. It wasnt installed. I tried to install it, but i dont know what happened
[11:59] <nabn> cer, i did dpkg --purge
[11:59] <cer> nabn: did it work?
[11:59] <cer> nabn: is it half installed, or not installed at all?
[12:00] <nabn> cer, not installed at all, i think. no luck 'til now.
[12:00] <cer> nabn: well, try to run apt-get -f install .... it is half installed it will fix it.
[12:00] <cer> nabn: (unless there is a serious problem, of course)
[12:01] <nabn> cer, it says it's unable to find the package
[12:01] <cer> nabn: no, I mean "apt-get -f install" without the package name
[12:01] <nabn> cer, i am currently looking for the website i installed if from
[12:01] <nabn> cer, sorry. my bad. will try that.
[12:03] <nabn> cer, i did find out the website. http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:colomboem&package=dukto  i don't know what to do next
[12:03] <cer> nabn: it is for ubuntu 12.04
[12:05] <cer> nabn: but it gives you both the repository and the pgp key. I recommend you just download the appropriate package and then you try to install it using "sudo dpkg -i".
[12:05] <nabn> cer, but will solve the key problem?
[12:05] <nabn> cer, *will it
[12:05] <cer> nabn: downloading it manually? of course.
[12:06] <cer> nabn: (well, you do not solve it really .... you just do not create it in the first place)
[12:06] <nabn> cer, just to make it clear, will it solve the *existing* key problem?
[12:07] <cer> nabn: nope .... the only ways to resolve the existing key problem are 1) download and install the key OR 2) remove the repopsitories.
[12:07] <nabn> cer, thanks for the help. :)
[12:07] <cer> nabn: np
[12:08] <Isualin> hi guys, i want to use apt-get upgrade to
[12:08] <Isualin> upgrade my pacgakes
[12:09] <Isualin> but i have to use an old version of mongodb
[12:09] <Isualin> so how can i exclude it from upgrade list
[12:09] <IdleOne> !pinning
[12:10] <Isualin> Ok, i will look into it thanks.
[12:10] <IdleOne> yup.
[12:10] <cer> Isualin: apt-mark hold package_name
[12:10] <minimec> Isualin: You can put the mongodb package on 'hold', or apt-pin it to a Ubuntu distro, if the package comes from a older Ubuntu release.
[12:11] <cer> Isualin: apt-mark is only a wrapper around dpkg --set-selections, but it is easier to use.
[12:12] <cer> oh by the way, re the stuff we discusse a couple fo days ago about cpufreq, I think there is actually a bug in the kernel!
[12:19] <nerium> I'm trying to load this iptable file, but I'm getting an error on line 19
[12:19] <nerium> https://gist.github.com/oleander/5e3321af9bdb1311cc35
[12:20] <nerium> iptables-restore: line 19 failed
[12:20] <nerium> Why is that?
[12:26] <tsnider> I'm running precise and  have directly connected SAS disk storage to my server. If I mount a device after the node boots mount shows the device is mounted with the _netdev option. however the device mounted at boot time doesn't have that option. The option is not specified in /etc/fstab. Can any (every) one tell me what the difference is & why?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nerium: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:26] <nerium> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[12:26] <murgero> Anyone know of any good server software to run on ubtunu 12.04 VPS?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nerium: have you tried without the comment?
[12:27] <daftykins> murgero: define: "server software"
[12:27] <nanovirus> hey folks, having trouble getting a python script to run on doubleclick.  I've got #!/usr/bin/python as the first line, and set the file to executable, but it still just opens with my text editor... any ideas?
[12:27] <murgero> Media, Gaming, IRC, etc pretty much just anything that is everyday useful
[12:28] <daftykins> murgero: google is your friend for new progs really
[12:29] <murgero> I know, I just wanted ideas, like for Media, I am using PlexMediaServer
[12:32] <nerium> ActionParsnip: That worked, thanks!
[12:32] <excognac> hi all anybody knows how to install drivers for intel graphics when kubuntu fails to recognize graphics (thinks i'm on VM lol)
[12:33] <cer> excognac: which intel graphics?
[12:33] <murgero> You need to access the terminal from start up, then install the graphics.
[12:34] <murgero> I don't know the specifics though, sorry! :/
[12:34] <Johnson88232> is there any features lack between xubuntu, ubuntu etc? can steam games run on xubuntu if it works for ubuntu?
[12:34] <excognac> cer: core i5-4570 , intel hd graphics 4600 and kubuntu 12.04. works fine on 13.04 live session tho
[12:35] <cer> excognac: can you at least access the recovery menu?
[12:35] <gdos> how do i reinstall xorg display drivers ?
[12:37] <minimec> gdos: I would do it the 'ubuntu' way. First... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', then go to 'additional drivers' in the 'software sources' and choose a driver if available.
[12:39] <cer> excognac: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=13815&lang=eng&OSVersion=Linux*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09
[12:39] <cer> excognac: this are the up to date original Intel drivers.
[12:40] <cer> excognac: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_hd4400&num=6 Phoronix suggests they also work really well.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> nerium: its the KISS mentality :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Johnson88232: steam just needs 3D accelleration, so will run fine
[12:42] <excognac> ty cer, looking these up
[12:44] <cer> excognac: np
[12:45] <excognac> cer: so basically i download everthing from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/2013q3-intel-graphics-stack-release and install them?
[12:47] <ikonia> why are you downloading things from intel ?
[12:47] <excognac> ikonia: cos these drivers are not in for 12.04
[12:47] <ikonia> what drivers ?
[12:47] <ikonia> why are you not using the ones that ship with ubuntu ?
[12:49] <cer> ikonia: he is experiencing SERIOUS problems with the ubuntu drivers, I suggested to try the native drivers
[12:49] <theForce> hi folks
[12:49] <ikonia> cer: the ubuntu ones are native
[12:49] <cer> ikonia: mmmm .... they should but if they do not work, they do not work.
[12:50] <excognac> ikonia:  because of this: http://pastebin.kde.org/pt4posdqt
[12:50] <ikonia> cer: investigating why they don't work seems more logical than putting software on the machine that is outside of the repositories
[12:50] <theForce> i have 12.04 installed. now i want to install mysql-server-5.5.33+dfsg-1 from the debian sid repository. but when i do "aptitude install mysql-server=5.5.33+dfsg-1" i get the message "mysql-server-5.5 : Breaks: mysql-server (< 5.5.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) but 5.5.33+dfsg-1 is to be installed." and mysql-server will not be installed. how can i fix that?
[12:50] <ikonia> excognac: why are you pasting me information from vmware machines ?
[12:51] <ikonia> theForce: you shouldn't do that
[12:51] <ikonia> theForce: debian packages are not ubuntu packages and should not be used
[12:51] <excognac> ikonia:  this ios NOT a Vmware machine, a fresh install on a brand new computer
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: 8.OpenGL vendor string:                   VMware, Inc.
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: begs to differ
[12:52] <theForce> ikonia: i need mysql-server 5.5.33
[12:52] <theForce> afaik there is no ubuntu package for that
[12:52] <ikonia> theForce: that doesn't change what I said
[12:52] <cer> ikonia: mmmm .... well, if the drivers are not packaged for 12.04, and if the machien is a production machine, the first thing is to have the machine up and running in my opinion.
[12:52] <excognac> ikonia: cos it bloody fails to recognize the correct hardware
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: that seems unlikley that it would randomly set the GL string to vmware
[12:53] <theForce> ikonia: is there a way to run mysql-server 5.5.33 on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:53] <ikonia> theForce: no idea, not looked, but if it's not in the repos I would not waste any more time on it
[12:53] <excognac> ikonia: this is the case. regardless how likely it is.
[12:53] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so what video card is actually there
[12:53] <theForce> ikonia: unfortunately that is not an option
[12:54] <excognac> ikonia:  core i5-4570 , intel hd graphics 4600 and kubuntu 12.04. works fine on 13.04 live session tho
[12:54] <cer> theForce: is it a production machine?
[12:55] <ikonia> sounds like someones desktop
[12:55] <ikonia> excognac: can you pastebin the output of "lspci" in a pastebi please.
[12:55] <theForce> cer: no. it's a vagrant box. but we have 5.5.33 running on production and want to have the same version in the dev instances
[12:55] <ikonia> theForce: so use the same packages/OS as your production machine
[12:56] <cer> theForce: you could recompile it.
[12:56] <ikonia> good lord no
[12:56] <josmala> I have a problem with wine/opensource radeon drivers, wine crashes on ALL applications no matter how old any help?
[12:56] <ikonia> josmala: try #winehq for wine support
[12:57] <gdos> minimec: nothing happens.
[12:58] <minimec> gdos: And... What should happen?
[12:58] <cer> theForce: first of all, have you looked at whether it has been backported, by any chance?
[12:58] <gdos> minimec: right now all of my fonts are monospace. can't change fonts in any applications or settings.
[13:00] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/py75c2zr8
[13:00] <minimec> gdos: I had to dig the logs to see what we were talking about...
[13:00] <ikonia> excognac: xeon ?? I thought you said it was an i5
[13:01] <excognac> ikonia: yes, i also said it fails to recognize
[13:01] <ikonia> excognac: can you do cat /proc/cpuinfo please
[13:01] <ikonia> (pastebin again)
[13:01] <theForce> cer: well i only found it in debian sid
[13:02] <minimec> gdos: So we were talking about xserver-xorg. Did you check for available drivers in the 'software sources'? And what would that have to do with font size?
[13:02] <ikonia> theForce: why don't you use the same OS for your dev box as your production box to keep them in sync
[13:02] <minimec> gdos: ... and fonts?
[13:02] <gdos> minimec: i can't even change to any nvidia drivers that 'software sources' are showing.
[13:02] <cer> excognac: you lspci is quite weird .... can you please do lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 and pastebinit?
[13:02] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/p7dbjusdx here you are
[13:02] <gdos> minimec: only fonts displayed are monospace.
[13:03] <ikonia> excognac: first thing to try is "sudo update-pciids" then re-check lspci
[13:03] <jack-> which saucy iso file allows me to try the most flavors?
[13:03] <ikonia> excognac: I'm guessing the video card is one of those onboard the cpu
[13:03] <cer> excognac: can you please do lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 and pastebinit?
[13:03] <minimec> gdos: Ok. So you have a nvidia GPU. Can you give me the output of 'lspci | grep VGA' please. -->paste.ubuntu.com
[13:03] <ikonia> jack-: they are all the same
[13:04] <theForce> ikonia: its more complicated then that. on production db and webserver are not on the same machine, of course
[13:04] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/p4ulnvgqu
[13:04] <jack-> no real klubuntu or so?
[13:04] <jack-> sigh
[13:04] <ikonia> jack-: you can try any desktop from any other ubuntu iso
[13:05] <gdos> minimec: what goes after grep? monospace font isn't displaying anything.
[13:05] <jack-> with a working inet connection, sure thing
[13:05] <gdos> minimec: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[13:05] <minimec> gdos: vga with big letters
[13:05] <ikonia> jack-: right, so then they are all the same in that they only install 1 desktop per iso
[13:05] <jack-> but without? tough luck
[13:05] <ikonia> jack-: so they will all limit you to the desktop they come with
[13:05] <jack-> yeah
[13:05] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/peufz3vbc
[13:05] <gdos> i'm thinking my font issues might be related to the video drivers somehow?
[13:06] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... can you please run it as root with sudo?
[13:06] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so the identifier is just rubbish
[13:06] <ikonia> cer: what ?
[13:06] <minimec> gdos: Ok I see that this is a quiet old nvidia card. If there is a restricted driver for that card, it would be an old legacy driver. Otherwise the card would use the opensource 'nouveau' driver.
[13:07] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/p2rc2mue8 as root
[13:07] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... can you please run it as root with sudo (sudo lspci -vv -s 00:02.0)?
[13:07] <excognac> cer: ^
[13:08] <minimec> gdos: I found this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/230762/how-do-i-install-the-nvidia-driver-for-my-nvidia-geforce-6150-le-on-ubuntu-12-04 pinting to this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/install-nvidia-driver-31309-beta-in.html
[13:08] <cer> excognac: sorry .... did not see it ..... mmmm .... was that complete? it did not show the kernl module line ....
[13:08] <excognac> ikonia: so is there anyway to replace the identifier with a later version then?
[13:08] <gdos> minimec: i'm given the options of using drivers 179, 304, and 310.
[13:09] <excognac> cer: i pasted everything displayed
[13:09] <cer> excognac: some times the people who assemble somehwta screw up the ID .... I have seen it in the past.
[13:09] <ikonia> excognac: thats what you just did, but pci-id's are mostly worthless anyone so don't worry about that, check what xorg modules is being loaded for your video card
[13:09] <raub> Trying to upgrade a 11.10 machine to 12.04. So I told it to use old-releases.ubuntu.com. Error I am getting when i do apt-getupdate is W: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-backports/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to old-releases.ubuntu.com:http:
[13:09] <minimec> gdos: Start with the 'oldest' one --> 179, I had a GE7600 once, but I cannot remember what restricted driver I used.
[13:09] <gdos> OK.
[13:09] <OerHeks> excognac, sandy bridge new acceleration https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA > see the xorg.conf  attachment > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xorg.conf
[13:09] <excognac> ikonia: how do i check xorg modules?
[13:10] <gdos> minimec: hope this solves my font issue.
[13:10] <ikonia> xorg log
[13:10] <cer> excognac: but in your case the listing seems correct. Indeed it shows Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3 OR 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raub: if you boot to the 12.04 install CD, you can upgrade that way
[13:10] <cer> excognac: the 4th generation is actually the 4400
[13:11] <cer> excognac: so this is correctly recognised. Now, why does it not load the module?
[13:11] <cer> excognac: can you give me your dmesg, please?
[13:12] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/pu4cpcu56
[13:12] <raub> ActionParsnip: really?
[13:12] <raub> I have never thought of that
[13:14] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pl6nz9e1b
[13:15] <cer> excognac: so the CPu is properly recognised
[13:15] <excognac> cer, ikonia i'm sure I have ark.intel.com/products/75043
[13:16] <MrQuist_> Hey guys, i'm running Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo T530 (with docking station). Whenever i connect a seconds screen over VGA, it works right. When i connect it to HDMI / DVI / DP (digital) - i get artifacts, such as the cursor is "sticking" to its old locations. Kind of like the screen isn't completely redrawn.
[13:16] <MrQuist_> With VGA i do not have this problem.
[13:17] <MrQuist_> Would anybody know what i can do to help that? I have installed Gnome3.10, but it also happens in Gnome 3.8 (default). I've tried the NVidia drivers, but those crashed my whole environment so i had to uninstall those.
[13:17] <cer> excognac: the module driver is called i915
[13:18] <cer> excognac: could you please do lsmod | grep -i i915?
[13:18] <cer> excognac: (sorry, I am cooking and I come and go from the screen:D ....)
[13:19] <ObrienDave> cer... hope you're making enough to share with us ;)
[13:19] <cousteau> the volume in Volume Control can be set to more than 100% (0 dB).  More exactly, it can be turned up to 11 dB.  This was an intentional pun, right?
[13:19] <excognac> cer: np, i'm washing dishes:))) it has no oputput
[13:20] <cer> excognac: then that is the problem .... the fact you are washing up ....
[13:20] <MrQuist_> Also the softwarecentre crashes every time i open it.
[13:20] <cer> excognac: :D .... I mean the fact you are not loading the correct driver.
[13:20] <excognac> cer: got it xD
[13:20] <MrQuist_> nevermind then
[13:21] <cer> excognac: could you please do "sudo modprobe -v i915" and let me have the output?
[13:21] <cer> ObrienDave: yes, virtual shares of course.
[13:22] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pxstmxa91
[13:23] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... that should not really happen!
[13:23] <cer> could you do tail dmesg, and let me have the ouput?
[13:26] <cer> excognac: and also the uname -ram ....
[13:27] <excognac> cer: so tail -f dmesg?
[13:27] <excognac> cer: uname -ram
[13:27] <excognac> Linux mirageoffice 3.2.0-55-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 12:29:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:28] <cer> last things modinfo i2c-core2
[13:29] <fatih> hi guys, i have a sound problem in games, i installed latest wine version. i'm using kubuntu 13.10 but i cant get sound call of juarez gunslinger, empire total war game on steam. what must i do?
[13:29] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pd7jyecxz
[13:30] <FalconX> fatih, can you get sound working in other wine games?
[13:30] <fatih> thanks for your reply.  no icant get
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> excognac: cer: i would have a guess that the GPU module isn't supported by that release considering it's so new. Maybe a later version of the module might be needed?
[13:30] <fatih> but i  can listen youtbe videos.
[13:30] <theForce> ikonia: its more complicated then that. on production db and webserver are not on the same machine, of courseåA
[13:30] <excognac> cer: modinfo i2c-core ERROR: modinfo: could not find module i2c-core
[13:30] <fatih> FalconX: i can hear system sounds.
[13:31] <cer> hitsujiTMO: this is what I suggested :)
[13:31] <fatih> but i cant hear any voices in games :(
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: I believe there is an omgubuntu how to on this
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: you mean the preview videos in flash?
[13:31] <cer> excognac: impossible, the dmesg shows that you have been loading it! could you please do lsmod | grep -i core
[13:32] <cer> hitsujiTMO: this is what I suggested :)
[13:32] <fatih> everything on system looks normal but i cant get any voices in games
[13:32] <Valeness> So if I want to delete the ubuntu partition from windows 7. Is there any way to repair the GRUB without a windows 7 repair disc?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: do other games work ok, like open source ones?
[13:32] <excognac> cer: lsmod | grep -i core soundcore              15091  1 snd
[13:33] <fatih> i dont have any opensource game right now.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: then install one....
[13:33] <cer> excognac: strange .... anyway, let's go back to my first suggestion. Could you please install the very last version of the module, and we take it from there?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fatih: ^
[13:33] <fatih> any suggestion?
[13:33] <excognac> Valeness: yes, you need a live cd to delete ubuntu partition and add the diskspace for win
[13:33] <cer> excognac: using the first link I gave you.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fatih: install a 3D open source game and play it. what sort of reply is "i dont have any" they are in the software centre
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> fatih: supertux, tux racer....
[13:34] <FalconX> fatih: Where did you get wine?
[13:34] <fatih> i get it from winehq.com
[13:34] <raub> ActionParsnip: So, boot off the server iso and select install ubuntu server?
[13:35] <Valeness> excognac: I know how to delete the ubuntu partition and reclaim the diskspace. But after I delete the partition, will I still be able to boot into windows 7 without a windows repair disc?
[13:35] <raub> When would it ask me if I want to upgrade?
[13:35] <excognac> Valeness: you should be able to
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> raub: oh you have server install? No desktop?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> raub: the desktop CD suggests an upgrade, try the server CD too, may do the same
[13:35] <excognac> cer: there is nothing to download there but it directs me to the link i sen tyou, you mean that?
[13:35] <fatih> i'm installing supertuxkart right now. i'll tell when it finishes.
[13:36] <Valeness> Hmm, I don't think I'll risk it on a should. I'll google some more :D
[13:37] <excognac> Valeness: make sure you delelet, shrink partitions. in the worst case you use the win7 cd, it messes up grub anyway to make win only boot partition.
[13:37] <rudefire> hello, I am having an issue with booting ubuntu
[13:37] <x0kster> hi guys, i have a little problem with my ubuntu 13.10 . The wifi connection after a little while it's connected goes down, and if i want to reconnect i can't because the SSID is no longer visible..if I remove the checkmark to "enable wifi" and then i enable it again..the connection with its SSID becomes visible again...how can i risolve this problem?? thanks
[13:37] <raub> ActionParsnip: this is a server vm. I can get the desktop iso if needed
[13:37] <Valeness> Aye, but if the worse case arrives. I don't have a win7 cd. :)
[13:37] <x0kster> P.S: Please sorry for my bad english :(
[13:37] <cer> excognac: yes, if you folow the link it will offer you a graphic installer
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> raub: if it is a server OS with no GUI, i would stick with it
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: what wifi chip?
[13:38] <excognac> cer: it's 4 tar.bz2, right?
[13:38] <rudefire> i tried to install ubuntu a year or so ago, and i didn't work. after i deleted it, it would still show up in my boot options. I just installed it again, and everything worked perfectly, but the ubuntu boot option just tells me Windows can't start and that I need to start Windows Repair
[13:38] <FalconX> fatih: tell me if sound works.
[13:39] <cer> excognac: it is a very recent driver. Have you tried with backports first?
[13:39] <excognac> Valeness: label (flag) the win7 partition as boot in partition editor
[13:39] <x0kster> ActionParsnip, is a Realtek
[13:39] <Valeness> Ah, alright excognac
[13:39] <excognac> cer: no i haven't tried backports or anything since we are chatting. shall i go fiorst for backports then
 : i get sound like crystal from supertuxkart
[13:40] <_nrdb> I have a VM with low disk space ... I want to run "apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic"  .... but I can't it keeps asking me to do a "apt-get install" ... how do I fix this?
[13:40] <fatih> <FalconX: i've opened a steam game and no sound again :(
[13:40] <rudefire> can anyone help me?
[13:41] <foubarre> Hi. For some unknown reason, no mail client will connect to my mail server on two ubuntu boxes (13.04 and 13.10) while other machines can. Weirdest, on those machines, i can successfully telnet to port 587 and have the server respond to ehlo... any idea?
[13:41] <cer> excognac: yes, try backports first .... if they do not solve it, then download the last driver.
[13:41] <FalconX> fatih: maybe it's wine's fault?
[13:41] <m3kk> oh hai
[13:41] <FalconX> fatih: have you got wine 1.7.4 or 1.7.5?
[13:41] <m3kk> can someone tell me how i can connect  to linuxmint-chat lol? i cant find that channel.. the one that is autojoined with mint
[13:41] <marco_mesquita_> I'm trying to compile the 3.11 kernel (following advice from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile). When I type "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs", I get "utils/helpers/amd.c:7:21: fatal error: pci/pci.h: No such file or directory
[13:41] <marco_mesquita_> compilation terminated." . What should I do?
[13:41] <lionrouge> hi ^_^
[13:42] <fatih> FalconX i open wine configuration right now. i opened sound tab.  i clicked sound test. and no sound again.
[13:42] <lionrouge> tell me please how to enable 3D acceleration with prop. AMD driver
[13:42] <fatih> <FalconX: i'm using wine 1.6
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: realtek make a LOT of chips, which do you have
[13:42] <lionrouge> previous versions of Ubuntu offered to install prop. drivers but 13.04 doesn't
[13:42] <cer> marco_mesquita_: why do you give it the AUTOBILD?
[13:42] <rudefire> I really don't want to spam my issue, can anyone help me?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    you will be shown
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[13:42] <Romance> Hello, why is the command 'free' shows different output with the system monitor? in 'free' it shows i have used 1.9GB RAM (i have 3GB RAM) but in system monitor it shows i use 600MB of RAM
[13:43] <marco_mesquita_> cer: because https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile says so. I just copy-pasted commands
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Romance: use:  free -m   to make things easier (shows it in Mb)
[13:43] <rudefire> i tried to install ubuntu a year or so ago, and i didn't work. after i deleted it, it would still show up in my boot options. I just installed it again, and everything worked perfectly, but the ubuntu boot option just tells me Windows can't start and that I need to start Windows Repair
[13:43] <ObrienDave> !ask| rudefire
[13:43] <marco_mesquita_> cer: should I remove it?
[13:43] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  yes sorry, it's a Realtek RTL 8185
[13:43] <FalconX> fatih: go to wine config's audio tab and tell me what it says under 'Selected driver' field
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Romance: can you pastebin the output of:  free -m; uname -a; lsb_release -a
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: ok and what driver module?
[13:43] <Xat`> there are some guys to help me about samba serv ?
[13:44] <fatih> FalconX: winealsa.drv
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: is this an efi install?
[13:44] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  rtl8180
[13:44] <marco_mesquita_> cer: removing AUTOBUILD has no effect
[13:44] <rudefire> I don't really know. I put the install files on a thumb drive, and did the full install
[13:44] <fatih> FalconX: i can also see hd-audo generi hdmi , hda intel pch -alc892 analog, out:default
[13:44] <rudefire> same thing with the old install
[13:45] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8180 driverversion=3.11.0-12-generic firmware=N/A ip=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=64 link=yes maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[13:45] <FalconX> fatih: be sure it is on default
[13:45] <Romance> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324017/
[13:45] <rudefire> I didn't install it in windows, I booted to the thumb drive
[13:45] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324015/
[13:45] <fatih> FalconX: it's all default right now. i m clicking sound test but no sound.
[13:45] <fossxplorer> Any idea why i can copy from my mouse while into an SSH session in Precise?
[13:46] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  but the connection doesn't have problems like slow connecton or low signal...just goes down every 15-20 minuti
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you giveme the output of: sudo blkid
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: sureit's not the ath9k module, look for  "driver="
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Romance: ok so 3Gb RAM and using 533Mb
[13:47] <rudefire> I'm not in ubuntu. I'm in Windows.
[13:47] <fatih> FalconX: i can hear sooo low sound right now.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: when the connection drops, can you ping yout router's internal IP and / or <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:47] <Romance> ActionParsnip, ye that is on system monitor, but free -m showing different result?
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: try: sudo apt-get clean
[13:47] <fatih> FalconX: froum test sound button
[13:47] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, allready tried that
[13:47] <FalconX> fatih: low or almost mute?
[13:48] <hispeed76> what is a better channel to discuss setting up apache?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Romance: maybe system monitor is looking at some weird values. I'd always go by the 'free' output
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: : sudo apt-get -f install
[13:48] <LjL> hitsujiTMO: #httpd
[13:48] <LjL> hispeed76, even
[13:48] <fatih> FalconX: low and bad sound. i checked system sound tab and every sound bar is high.
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[13:48] <hispeed76> lol.
[13:48] <hispeed76> thnx
[13:48] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  i think no, because the connection goes down from my pc, not from internet..and the strange thing is that it disappears the SSID
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you boot the live usb please?
[13:49] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, can't ... it tries to install yet another kernel there isn't enough memory
[13:49] <cer> marco_mesquita_: apologies, I really have to go .... I had problems with that document as well in the past. Can you use the traditional debian way, instead of the debian/rules way? I can vouch it works.
[13:49] <FalconX> fatih: is any field's name something like 'Wine loader' ?
[13:49] <rudefire> I can't run those commands. my issue is there is an old ubuntu install that isn't actually there anymore. so when I try to use it, it just gives me a bad memory address and tells me to run windows repair
[13:49] <rudefire> is there a way to delete things from my boot registry?
[13:49] <marco_mesquita_> cer: ok, I'll try the traditional debain way then
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: dpkg --get-selection | grep linux-
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX: i get sound from empire total war :) i dont know what happened but sound like crystal
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX: i trie another game and still no sound.
[13:50] <excognac> cer: ok,  i'm sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates now
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX:  should be a game problem?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you boot the live cd so you can have the tools to fix the problem please. there's an irc client on it too
[13:51] <rudefire> will do
[13:51] <cer> excognac: did it work? because I really haev to go .... if it does not work with backports, then install the proper driver frojm the links I gave you.
[13:51] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  i think was the power management, but it's off
[13:51] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, I get "unknown option --get-selection"
[13:52] <excognac> cer: jsut tell me how do i check it from commandline if it's fine
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: --get-selections       sorry
[13:53] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO,  I get a list of about 26 entries
[13:53] <FalconX> fatih: what else have you got under wine?
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin them please
[13:53] <fatih> FalconX: i have call of juarez gunslinger and empire total war.
[13:54] <cer> excognac: lsmod | grep -i i915 should show you the module has been loaded
[13:54] <foubarre> Hi. For some unknown reason, no mail client will connect to my mail server on two ubuntu boxes (13.04 and 13.10) while other machines can. Weirdest, on the ubuntu machines, i can successfully telnet to port 587 and have the server respond to ehlo... I am therefore certain that it is not a firewall problem. any idea?
[13:54] <fatih> FalconX: sorry i think i understand your question incorrectly. i have only steam
[13:55] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324061/
[13:55] <cer> excognac: lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 should show you that the module i915 has been "linked" to your graphic card
[13:55] <excognac> cer: still doesn't work, so install the tar.bz2 files
[13:55] <FalconX> fatih: so you use wine only to install steam games and nothing else?
[13:55] <fatih> FalconX: today is moy holiday and i want to make this day for a game holiday but i'm busy with sound issue still 10.00
[13:56] <cer> excognac: try sudo modprobe -v i915 first!
[13:56] <fatih> FalconX: i'll install some statistical softwares too but i installed kubuntu today.
[13:56] <excognac> cer: still fatal error
[13:56] <fossxplorer> Quite a different way of adding virtual net adapters in Ubuntu vs CentOS
[13:56] <fatih> FalconX: i'll install some statistical softwares too but i installed kubuntu today.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: is there a bug reported?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> FourDollars: can you ping the servers by name and/or IP?
[13:57] <cer> excognac: then install teh very last module .... and goo luck!!
[13:57] <cer> excognac: talk to you later.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> fossxplorer: I use ifconfig in all linuxes and it works
[13:58] <fossxplorer> ActionParsnip, for adding virtual ethx as well?
[13:58] <FalconX> fatih: try typing pulseaudio in terminal and tell me what it gives?
[13:58] <excognac> cer: ty a lot bro''''''''''1
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run these commands please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324077/
[13:58] <fatih> FalconX: E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[13:58] <fatih> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() başarısız oldu.  (create - failed )
[13:58] <cer> excognac: np!!
[13:59] <fatih> FalconX: E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[13:59] <fatih> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() başarısız oldu.
[13:59] <x0kster> ActionParsnip, i googled "ubuntu wifi down SSID disappears" but i didn't find something helpful, and i didn't reported any bug
[13:59] <kribbio> ciao
[14:00] <FalconX> fatih: ok?
[14:00] <FalconX> fatih: your problem is really a mystery.
[14:00] <fatih> FalconX: daemon already runnign pa_pid flie create() failed
[14:01] <FalconX> fatih: it means that sound server is working. So i don't see problem here.
[14:01] <fatih> FalconX:  may be there is a problem with this game :(
[14:02] <FalconX> fatih: and call of juarez wasn't reported as not working
[14:02] <FalconX> fatih: but i wonder how did you get empire total war to work properly
[14:03] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, it didn't work ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324093/
[14:03] <fatih> FalconX: i dont know. empire's sound is better than windows right now
[14:03] <fatih> FalconX: thank you very much. i got your time. you're amazing.
[14:03] <FalconX> fatih: i meant that it was reported to crash while loading a battle
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: whats the output of: uname -r
[14:04] <FalconX> fatih: so you're both lucky and unlucky
[14:04] <michele__> if there is any rosegarden's user in there can pm me plz?
[14:04] <fatih> FalconX: i still have random crash problems but i dont know.
[14:04] <_nrdb> 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <_nrdb> HisaoNakai, 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <fatih> FalconX: i have to quite right now because my eyes are really tired and i'm too bored :)
[14:05] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <FalconX> fatih: tired, so early?
[14:05] <micros> hello. every time i boot a linux image on a different machine, I always get the same data from /dev/random.  this of course makes some sense, but how should i set the seed or add entropy in a sane manner?
[14:06] <fatih> FalconX: thanks for your help again. i am awake from 07.00 am and i'm trying to solve linux problems as a newbie
[14:06] <michele__> try with /dev/urandom
[14:07] <FalconX> fatih: i was there too, so don't worry too much. I had problems with many other things, and still have.
[14:07] <micros> but wont it generate the same set of numbers every time as well?
[14:07] <kambavanan> hi
[14:07] <micros> assuming that its a fresh image on the first boot
[14:07] <MrQuist> why are there no normal drivers for everything for linux
[14:07] <MrQuist> i hate linux because of unsupported crap and weird bugs
[14:07] <fatih> FalconX: :) thanks again. have a nice day. ;)
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: try adding --force-all   flag
[14:07] <MrQuist> i hate myself for having to switch back to windows now
[14:07] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: define normal drivers
[14:07] <FalconX> fatih: you too.
[14:08] <MrQuist> a working video card driver for lenovo T530
[14:08] <MrQuist> a working docking station
[14:08] <MrQuist> working digital connected secondary screens
[14:08] <MrQuist> working sound card
[14:08] <MrQuist> working software centre
[14:08] <MrQuist> a normal GUI
[14:09] <MrQuist> normal workign Java
[14:09] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ... run the command "dpkg --force-all --purge linux-headers-3.2.0-32"
[14:09] <MrQuist> i hate windows for messing up line endings. no good git support. All cool server stuff works great on linux.
[14:09] <FalconX> MrQuist: you got weird problems here.
[14:09] <MrQuist> FalconX: i gave up.
[14:10] <bean> I'd use a VM for all of the *nix stuff I miss, personally. MrQuist
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: sorry: do -generic first
[14:10] <MrQuist> bean, i do use a VM
[14:10] <MrQuist> but i have VM's for developing websites
[14:10] <MrQuist> with a shared mount to the host
[14:10] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: you should question the manufacturer why not they support linux drivers. That's the real problem
[14:10] <MrQuist> where my git project is located
[14:10] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ... run the command "dpkg --force-all --purge linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic"
[14:10] <MrQuist> marco_mesquita_: they do kind of. They ship the laptop with Windows or Ubuntu
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: without the --force-all
[14:10] <FalconX> MrQuist: those shitty lenovo laptops are somewhat hard to get working on linux. I mean those Optimus ones
[14:11] <bean> meh, my optimus lenovo works fine with ubuntu
[14:11] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: the one which ships with Ubuntu should have no problems then
[14:11] <MrQuist> FalconX: yeah i noticed... tried 12.04, 12.10, 13.10,
[14:11] <bean> granted i haven't upgraded to 13.10 yet
[14:11] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, done ... ok
[14:11] <MrQuist> nvidida drivers mess up everything. Gnome3 is buggy.  I just installed the nvidia-* driver stuff (tried 178 and 301 i believe)
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: and now run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324140/
[14:13] <FalconX> MrQuist: You've got dual graphics here. Like mine.
[14:13] <MrQuist> then wanted to go back to my party working 12.04. Crashes because of nvidia drivers. Tried to delete them. No disc space left to delete them (what the hell). From live CD, extended the FS of the original one. Reboot. Got into GRUB EMERENCY RECOVERY
[14:13] <MrQuist> god,,, once i have a spare month of time i'll try to fix ubuntu on there.
[14:14] <MrQuist> too bad because if ubuntu works right its lovely...
[14:14] <xll11> I changed my screen driver to something else, now when I rebooted the computer, I get plain desktop screen with nothing on it
[14:14] <xll11> what to do?
[14:14] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, done
[14:14] <xll11> after I log in, ofc
[14:14] <MrQuist> xll11: your name says all
[14:15] <MrQuist> also try to change to another manager (gnome, unity) - if i recall correct you can change it in the login screen
[14:15] <FalconX> MrQuist: i changed my display manager twice
[14:15] <MrQuist> i did that about 3 times
[14:15] <FalconX> MrQuist: and my desktop three times
[14:15] <MrQuist> Unity -> Unity 2D -> Gnome -> Cinnamon
[14:16] <FalconX> MrQuist: i did almost the same
[14:16] <MrQuist> then somewhere some idiot setting got stuck - flash screen on error bleep. Never got rid of that even tho it was disabled in my Unversial Access settings
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: might as well get rid of all the unnecessary ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324159/
[14:16] <MrQuist> so every bleep the screen flashes (lovely)
[14:16] <FalconX> MrQuist: Screen flash? that's something new
[14:17] <MrQuist> Oh, and the digital video output didnt work so i was stuck on VGA on 1920x1200 (also lovely)
[14:17] <xll11> MrQuist, why does my name says it all? also there is no options to change anything on the login screen
[14:17] <xll11> :P
[14:17] <FalconX> MrQuist: i only get minor screen refresh glitch
[14:17] <MrQuist> no its noyt, check out access settings for deaf people
[14:17] <MrQuist> you can flash the screen on an error beep
[14:17] <MrQuist> my 13.10 digital video worked. Except for the part that there was no refresh kind of thing, so the cursor left a trail of cursors.
[14:18] <xll11> is there a way I can force terminal boot? and from there maybe do a system restore?
[14:18] <FalconX> MrQuist: The worst problem with linux i have is
[14:18] <reisio> xll11: hrmm?
[14:18] <MrQuist> xll11: when you're int he login screen, try CTRL+ALT+F1 / F2 / F3
[14:18] <FalconX> MrQuist: getting Shift-JIS encoding to work.
[14:18] <MrQuist> switch to a tty
[14:19] <MrQuist> FalconX: Then either you're lucky or i am very unlucky
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> xll11: add kernel option: text
[14:19] <ryao> Where can I find the Ubuntu 11.10 ISO? I am on a system that is having trouble with its NIC, so using Google to find out is somewhat difficult right now.
[14:19] <FalconX> MrQuist: i mean at the moment
[14:19] <reisio> ryao: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[14:19] <ryao> This systems' motherboard is likely going to be RMAed. I just need to run Ubuntu 11.10 on it so I can tlel the manufacturer that I tried a supported OS.
[14:19] <ryao> reisio: Thanks.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: because whole text in txt file is broken because it's encoded in shift-jis and i can't get to open it.
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: once thats done, can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[14:20] <MrQuist> welp. Windows is installed. How weird, everything works :D
[14:20] <reisio> ryao: actually maybe http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/ would be better
[14:20] <ryao> 11.10 does not appear to be on these mirrors. :/
[14:20] <MrQuist> FalconX: thats what i mean.. Those issues really only occur on linux.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: no
[14:20] <minimec> xll11: <ctrl><alt>F1; login...; 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx' (<-- AMD/ATI), 'sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current' (<-- for nvidia), 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (reset xorg), 'sudo reboot' ...
[14:20] <MrQuist> lever had that kind of crap with windows.
[14:20] <ryao> reisio: Thanks.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: this one occurs also on windows
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | ryan
[14:21] <reisio> ryao: yeah just noticed, sorry I don't grok Ubuntu retiring protocols :p
[14:21] <FalconX> MrQuist: but is easier to fix there
[14:21] <minimec> xll11: That's what I would try in your case.
[14:22] <MrQuist> It does? weird
[14:22] <MrQuist> anyhow
[14:22] <ryao> hitsujiTMO: I think you meant ryao and that does not change the fact that 11,10 is on Supermicro's support list.
[14:22] <xll11> minimec did it, lets see whats up now, thanks :)
[14:22] <MrQuist> i wish i was a C++ guru
[14:22] <FalconX> MrQuist: I wish i was C++ guru too.
[14:22] <ryao> MrQuist: Why?
[14:22] <MrQuist> i'd fix all this buggy shit instead of making a "new and better" unity
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> ryao: 11.10 is removed from all mirrors as it is EOL
[14:23] <xll11> argh, minimec, not working =(
[14:23] <ryao> hitsujiTMO: I still need it so that I can tell supermicro that I tried a supported OS and the NICs did not work properly.
[14:23] <marco_mesquita_> ladies gentlemen, I think it is time to stop feeding the trolls
[14:23] <minimec> xll11: Do you know, which driver you installed?
[14:23] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help ... I have purged the old kernels.
[14:23] <xll11> I'll try upgrade my package since I've been given the option
[14:24] <FalconX> MrQuist: only driver issues i've got now are 'bluetooth not working' and 'graphics performance is almost crap'
[14:24] <xll11> minimec I changed it to the last propetiray driver of amd/ati (pretty sure it was fglrx)
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run: sudo apt-get -f upgrade                    now?
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run: sudo apt-get -f install                    now?
[14:25] <minimec> xll11: Hmmm... try 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-old.conf'
[14:25] <xll11> Oh well it's updating the package now ^^
[14:26] <minimec> xll11: If it is updating the fglrx package, you did not remove it...
[14:31] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, the "apt-get -f install" is generating errors ... :-(
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin the errors
[14:32] <hacp> would ubuntu run slow on a external usb hd?
[14:33] <minimec> hacp: Well it should. I run a full installation on USB Sticks.
[14:33] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324260/
[14:33] <hacp> minimec: but hw fast is it?
[14:33] <KotaroDesign> Hello everyone. I have a slight problem with my Ubuntu Server. I am running on Ubuntu 13.10 (GNU/Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64) and I have previously installed LAMP as well as WordPress and another Web App. All of them function fine, but now I have a problem with installing my mailserver. I installed postfix, not sure if properly though, and now I want to install iRedMail. I went through the configuration with
[14:33] <KotaroDesign> "bash iRedMail.sh" and followed the instructions. At the end a Warning popped up and I answered with "Y". Basically I get the following error at the end: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a5a3fac1f06a43de6b0e
[14:33] <hacp> must be slow I assueme
[14:34] <minimec> hacp: Well with USB3 it is pretty damn fast... Faster than a crypted internal laptop harddisk.
[14:35] <hacp> oh I see
[14:35] <hacp> so then you have to get a usb 3.0 hd in order to get the speed benefits right?
[14:35] <JasonS> Hello all
[14:36] <minimec> hacp: And you can put /tmp and /swap to RAM to limit write cicles and to speed up the system.
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: are you getting errors with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:36] <hacp> ok
[14:36] <hacp> cool
[14:36] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, no that goes fine
[14:37] <JasonS> Can some one help me with a problem. I am using 12.04 and my machine freezes in the first few minutes of accessing the desktop
[14:37] <JasonS> And its the same I believe in 12.10
[14:37] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, no that is wrong... it says to a apt-get -f install
[14:38] <minimec> hacp: Yes you need compatible hardware. I can recommend the SAN Disk extreme 64GB stick.
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: ok, lol. looks like the best thing to di is to manually install the new packages
[14:41] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ok ... how?
[14:41] <JasonS> Anyone?
[14:42] <MrQuist> JasonS: i had the same crap
[14:42] <MrQuist> reinstall 3 times helped for me
[14:42] <MrQuist> but i am not suggesting that as a solution.
[14:42] <JasonS> I've tried several installs using different versions of ubuntu
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: are you on 32 or 64bit?
[14:43] <JasonS> its 32 bit
[14:43] <MrQuist> JasonS: check your CPU / GPU temperatures
[14:44] <minimec> JasonS: HAve you once tried to disable all 'powersave' options for the screen and other stuff... Did you tune the kernel parameters?
[14:44] <MrQuist> +1 for ubuntu. Tweak / compile your own kernel so that your mouse works :D
[14:45] <JasonS> No I havent tried to disable any powersave and I am using the stock kernals
[14:45] <MrQuist> JasonS: did you check the temperatures?
[14:46] <esde> On a fresh install of server 12.04 64-bit, i ran update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade. Then i installed php5 and it's dependencies, and added the percona source to my sources and installed percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 and libmysqlclient-dev. Then I see this error http://pastebin.com/PKaKkkr2 when trying to run a script dealing with php and mysql, what can I do to resolve this? I found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759334/hea
[14:46] <esde> ders-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch but I'm not sure how to do the steps indicated. Any help would be awesome!
[14:46] <JasonS> Also I did a thorough cleaning of the heatsink and applied new thermal paste. I thought I may have been overheating.
[14:46] <MrQuist> JasonS: did you check the temperatures?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you tell me the output of: uname -a
[14:46] <JasonS> I dont remeber what the temps where when I checked since I been sitting on this problem a while now
[14:47] <MrQuist> so the pc just shuts down after a few minutes?
[14:47] <JasonS> I dont believe they were high at all
[14:47] <MrQuist> gracefully? or does it freeze? or does it suddenly power off?
[14:47] <JasonS> No it does not shut down. It freezes, I get no response from the mouse or keyboard
[14:47] <MrQuist> FunnyLookinHat [~funnylook@ubuntu/member/funnylookinhat] has joined #ubuntu
[14:47] <MrQuist> CatKiller [~catkiller@unaffiliated/catkiller] has joined #ubuntu
[14:47] <_nrdb> uname -a
[14:47] <SPEEDWAVE> maybe the processor is over-heated
[14:47] <MrQuist> Watch out cat in hat
[14:48] <MrQuist> JasonS: have you checked the temperatures?
[14:48] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO,  "Linux share 3.2.0-53-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 21:01:03 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[14:48] <JasonS> Yes I have and as I recall they were not running hot
[14:48] <MrQuist> after you've checked those - try unplugging any external hardware, see if any of that causes the error
[14:49] <FunnyLookinHat> YOU RANG?
[14:49] <FunnyLookinHat> lol.
[14:49] <SPEEDWAVE> try to cmos clear
[14:49] <jony_easyrider> I cannot decide which OS should I instal on an old PC (celeron 2ghz, 512mb RAM): Ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 12.04, please help
[14:49] <minimec> JasonS: Did you check the syslog files. There is probably some info in /var/log/syslog
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you wget this file: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb         and then run: sudo dpkg -i linux-image-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb
[14:50] <JasonS> How can I check the log files when it freezes?
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: If the machine is still running, you can login from a different machine with ssh.
[14:51] <MrQuist> Or try CTRL+ALT+F2 / F1 / F4 / F3 (switch tty)
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: 'sudo apt-get install ssh' first on the machine that freeses.
[14:51] <JasonS> Doesnt an ssh server need to be setup forst?
[14:51] <DJones> jony_easyrider: If its a desktop version you're looking for, forget Ubuntu 10.04, its end of life so no longer supported
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: yas ;)
[14:51] <MrQuist> JasonS: how about just pinging it
[14:51] <matrix_> plhfcnt
[14:51] <matrix_> здрасте
[14:51] <altayr> hello everyone, first time here
[14:52] <matrix_> есть русскоговорящие?
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: then can you do the same with the: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb     and then : dpkg -i linux-headers-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb
[14:52] <MrQuist> try that first. Keep a ping open from another machine. If that also stops you'll notice that a very low level system also freezes
[14:52] <MrQuist> matrix_: please use english
[14:52] <jony_easyrider> DJones, yes, it's a desktop, but it's very slooow
[14:52] <DJones> !ru | matrix_
[14:52] <MrQuist> !nl | MrQuist
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: that last command should with sudo ofc: sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb
[14:53] <JasonS> and I assume the syslog is a text file correct?
[14:53] <DJones> jony_easyrider: I'd try either Lubuntu or Xubuntu on that spec, personally I normally go with Lubuntu on low spec machines because I prefer the desktop, but may be worth you trying both versions before deciding which suits you best
[14:53] <matrix_> I do not speak English
[14:53] <MrQuist> Lol. Paradox
[14:53] <MrQuist> matrix_ -> /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:54] <MrQuist> matrix_: njet blabla russia
[14:54] <MrQuist> natrmatmasdf
[14:54] <MrQuist> matrix_: мы не говорим России
[14:55] <jony_easyrider> DJones, I tried and used for a while already both versions, conclusion: 10.04 is faster, 12.04 is slower but it's up to date
[14:55] <rtcg72a> hi, I have a Creative Awe 64 ISA sound card that I would like to use with ubuntu. I followed the advice at one of the ubuntu forum posts and used sudo modprobe snd-sbawe. However, I still got no sound. Did I go wrong somewhere?
[14:55] <matrix_> and to whom you say?
[14:56] <jboii> hi
[14:56] <jboii> can someone help me with this
[14:57] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, those commands worked :-) ... but the "apt -f install" still failed.
[14:57] <JasonS> I am going to check the log file and see what clies it leaves me.
[14:57] <jboii> i need to fix my usb mouse to function with x11 , can someone help me with this?
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you give me the exact error now
[14:58] <jboii> i am desperate , i have been having issues with this all night
[14:59] <CatKiller> jboii: What are the symptoms
[15:00] <jboii> broken screen , acer monitor , usb mouse connected to ubuntu , cannot find a solution to get this to work
[15:00] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324379/
[15:01] <CatKiller> jboii: What are the symptoms? The mouse doesn't power up? It's slow tracking, or it's not tracking but it's powered on?
[15:01] <frew> anyone know how I can find out what caused my computer to come out of susepnd?
[15:01] <CatKiller> Does it work on another machine
[15:01] <CatKiller> etc etc
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.65_amd64.deb
[15:01] <jboii> the mouse itself will only move in log in screen , in ubuntu it wont move
[15:02] <jboii> yes it works , soon as i log in , its not moving
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: after that can you pastebin the error of: sudo apt-get -f install     if it fails
[15:03] <CatKiller> jboii: That's kind of crazy. Anything you might have done that you think may have caused this?
[15:03] <CatKiller> Does it work on a Ubuntu liveCD/USB key?
[15:04] <jboii> i ended up with a broken laptop screen yesterday , so i had to buy a monitor
[15:04] <jboii> since than , the mouse itself is having problems moving
[15:04] <jboii> usb mouse
[15:04] <CatKiller> jboii: mhhh Can you see the cursor at all?
[15:04] <CatKiller> Maybe the new monitor is detected as an extended monitor
[15:04] <CatKiller> and your mouse cursor is present on the "other" monitor that's currently broken
[15:04] <jboii> yes , i have to use the laptop as a keyboard and mouse meanwhile tryin to fi this
[15:04] <mapsRus> Anyone know if there is a way to dump the terminal cache to a text file?
[15:05] <jboii> monitor is now setup as only function on the onitor
[15:05] <CatKiller> jboii: So you can use the laptop trackpad as a mouse
[15:06] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, that fixed everything
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: But if you take over with the USB one it won't work
[15:06] <jboii> yes
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: seet!
[15:06] <genii> jboii: If your laptop has one of those FN key combinations which cycles the monitor setups (eg: LCD no external, both, external only) You could try cycling to the setting which would be external only
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: That's extremely weird.
[15:06] <jboii> no , i havent found an app that will do anything like that
[15:06] <Areeb> Hi
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: So you can see the cursor on screen, but you can't move it with your usb mouse. However if you touch the trackpad it does move
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:07] <CatKiller> Does the "click" work?
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:07] <CatKiller> if you position your mouse using the trackpad over an icon and click, it does select that icon?
[15:07] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help ... where did you get url to download the package?
[15:07] <KotaroDesign> Anyone knows what this error means in roundcube: "SMTP Error (451): Failed to add recipient"?
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:08] <CatKiller> Just very odd. If it works using a livecd
[15:08] <CatKiller> I'd simply reinstall
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: packages.ubuntu.com
[15:08] <CatKiller> I mean if you've already searched all night for a solution
[15:08] <CatKiller> it would be way faster to just reinstall
[15:08] <jboii> hat about this
[15:08] <jboii> can i fix it using a bletooth mouse insted ?
[15:08] <genii> jboii: Do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf which contains lines in it about input devices?
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: np, just watch you're free space in future.
[15:08] <jboii> i am having issues enabling my bluetooth
[15:09] <CatKiller> jboii: Maybe. I don't know what your problem is but obviously the mouse is "seen" by the system as the click works
[15:09] <jboii> how can i easy fix this ?
[15:09] <jboii> yes i have that fie
[15:09] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, very much so.
[15:09] <genii> jboii: Please pastebin that file for inspection
[15:10] <jboii> what about fixing usb insted ?
[15:10] <jboii> i cant seem to get it to work
[15:10] <jboii> wotn enable
[15:10] <CatKiller> won't enable?
[15:11] <jboii> yes , it wont get started
[15:11] <jboii> bluetooth off
[15:11] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, now to check all the other VMs
[15:11] <jboii> is there a system cleaning app i can run to fix this ?
[15:11] <CatKiller> jboii: Yes and it is always running
[15:11] <CatKiller> jboii: In a way
[15:12] <jboii> like that will easy solve the problem
[15:12] <CatKiller> Why would anyone make a system cleaning app as opposed to keeping it "clean"
[15:12] <CatKiller> no
[15:12] <monst> anyone know where default dhcp logs are kept?
[15:12] <CatKiller> You have a system that should work. If it doesn't it was broken and Ubuntu doesn't know how/why it's broken
[15:12] <airt> has anyone upgraded to 13.10 ubuntu
[15:12] <dsalfran> hello all, I just installed ubuntu 13.10 on a HP pavilion g6, is always starting with windows 8 by default. I had 12.04 and boot-repair solved the issue but not now. Can someone look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324237/ ?
[15:12] <CatKiller> My suggestion of reinstalling (provided everything works using a livecd) is by far the easiest and fastest
[15:12] <CatKiller> Seems overkill
[15:12] <CatKiller> but it only takes minutes
[15:13] <CatKiller> maybe an hour
[15:14] <CatKiller> jboii: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[15:15] <testpil0t> just curious... is there some way to boostrap windows from within ubuntu ?
[15:15] <testpil0t> i dont want to fiddle around with some grub-fixing etc..
[15:16] <genii> jboii: Perhaps in the incident which broke the creen the usb port also experienced damage. But there is a remote possibility that your input device is specified in your xorg.conf but tied to the old default screen, etc. But impossible to know this without seeing the xorg.conf file. All else is speculation, etc.
[15:17] <intrader> Anyone, good morning. I noticed that ubuntu 13.10 while asleep -disables networking and continues to run some processes running that cause the laptop to stay more than warm (psensor temp2 91C); opening the lapto cover finds networking disabled. In  contrast, in ubuntu 12.04 closing the laptop cover  put the laptop asleep bring temperature down
[15:17] <lmat> I'm having trouble with Ubuntu 12.04: I'm wanting to turn off the drum startup sound, but can't figure out how.
[15:18]  * BarbaroXXa is afk
[15:18] <lmat> lmat: I see instructions that say "Click system > administration > login window > accessibility > sounds > login screen ready" but I don't see any of that.
[15:18] <lmat> Where do I click "System" ? (I use cairo dock, and I think the usual unity thing is not here)
[15:18] <Raiane> como eu desistalo o ubuntu do pc ?
[15:19] <dsalfran> someone knows how to boot directly to ubuntu 13.10 in a dual boot system?
[15:19] <k1l_> !away > BarbaroXXa
[15:20] <Raiane> ??
[15:20] <minimec> lmat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24946/how-do-i-disable-the-drum-beat-sound-on-the-login-screen
[15:20] <DJones> !br | Raiane
[15:20] <airt> lmat try  ubuntu tweek it has a place to turn off  logon sound
[15:21] <intrader> Anyone, continuing ... I am closing the lid to see if I can duplicate the behaviour.
[15:24] <Raiane> alguem me ajuda
[15:25] <HTT-Bird> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:25] <HTT-Bird> ^^ where'd the signatures for Quantal go?
[15:26] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys
[15:26] <fossxplorer> I have to ask why Ubuntu Precise uses a much newer kernel than latest CentOS?
[15:26] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sorry, bad typing
[15:27] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:27] <HTT-Bird> fossxplorer: because the two distros update the kernel on different cycles
[15:27] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: WTF? same error
[15:27] <monst> anyone know what could cause a route to disappear? the machine wasnt rebooted but lost a custom route
[15:28] <HTT-Bird> ran your command, then reran aptitude update
[15:28] <fossxplorer> HTT-Bird, i see. I have to ask this on #centos
[15:28] <HTT-Bird> exact. same. error.
[15:28] <Guest28138> hi all, don't remember is i asked but can i upgrade 12.04 to 14.04( in april) ? or must i do all of the incremental upgrades in between ?
[15:28] <kostkon> Guest28138, you can
[15:28] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: afaik you should be able to upgrade from LTS to LTS; so yes.
[15:28] <DJones> Guest28138: 14.04 is planned to be a Long term support release, so yes you should be able to got 12.04 to 14.04 without any problem
[15:29] <ceed^> Why is it not possible to control the volume fully with volume buttons or notification area volume control in Ubuntu? You can control it up to "100" which is a bit passed half way up, but to get above that you have to open the sound settings.
[15:29] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: what does that mean. Same error? Try deleting /var/lib/apt/lists before doing apt-get update
[15:29] <xll11> the installation of the new package is long as hell
[15:29] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx, but will not be able to go from x.10 to lts ? correct
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: I don't think so. Like if you're on 12.10 you'd have to jump from it to 13.04 then 13.10
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> but I'm not sure...
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> guys, can one upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04?
[15:30] <cousteau> Ari-Yang, I think you have to do the 3 upgrades
[15:30] <DJones> Ari-Yang: I believe thats the plan,
[15:30] <Pici> Guest28138: You can always go from an LTS to an LTS, and from a prior release to the immediate next one.
[15:31] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: now aptitude update won't even *try* to pull from quantal's repos
[15:31] <cousteau> maybe it'd be simpler to just reinstall  (assuming separate /home)
[15:31] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx, it looks like i will have to do all of the incrementals only because 12.x does not have verry good twinview support compared to 13.04
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: 13.04 is EOL in 3 months. So you might want to use 13.10
[15:32] <Guest28138> is anyone else here using multiple head display
[15:32]  * cousteau is waiting for 14.04 to be released to reinstall ubuntu
[15:32] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx
[15:32] <cousteau> and never again install a non-LTS
[15:32] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[15:32]  * cousteau uses Ubuntu 10.10 at home
[15:33] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: and while i am here i was having an issue with caffeine, it should temperarly disable xscreensaver , but even with "disable screensaver" checked the screensaver kept comming on
[15:33] <adamk> Guest28138: I run two monitors.
[15:33] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: ok, *weird*.  aptitude was having issues, apt-get is doing what I want though o.o
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: dunno about caffeine :|
[15:34] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: then all it's ok
[15:34] <Guest28138> adamk: ah, would you agree that 13 has better multihead support then 12
[15:34] <DJones> Ari-Yang: For 12.10 only, because 12.10's EOL is a few months after 13.04 goes EOL, in theory you could be using 12.10 without an upgrade path to 13.04, so when I asked a while back, the reply was that the plan was to have an upgrade path from 12.10 to 14.04 for those people (That was an answer I got some months back, possibly the plan could have changed since then)
[15:34] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a was to install a local package with dependencies on the command line?
[15:34] <reisio> m_tadeu: local?
[15:34] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: caffeine seems to be dead i have tried it on 12.10 and 13.04 and same results
[15:35] <reisio> m_tadeu: as in a .deb file you downloaded?
[15:35] <adamk> Guest28138: Not really.
[15:35] <m_tadeu> reisio: yes
[15:35] <reisio> m_tadeu: dpkg -i
[15:35] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: do you know of a way to disable and reinable xscreensaver, so i don't have to screw with it while watcing a video
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> DJones: ah I see.. I hope that is the case, in case I do want to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04 I can just jump from it to 14.04
[15:35] <m_tadeu> reisio: that won't install dependencies
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: not really, mess with the system settings screen options/screen saver etc.
[15:36] <Guest28138> adamk: i have noticed that snapping seems to work for me in 13., where it didn't work for me in 12.x other then that, the suppor t is about the s8ame
[15:36] <adamk> Guest28138: That's a function of the window manager, not the multihead support.
[15:37] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: xscreensaver seems to not appear in settings so i am looking for a script that i can run to enable/disable
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: okay, good luck.
[15:38] <wangqizhong> quit
[15:38] <Guest28138> adamk: thx, i wasn't to sure who handled that
[15:38] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx
[15:39] <Guest28138> adamk: i would say that 13 the ui at least looks cleaner then 12
[15:42] <deltra> hola a todos
[15:43] <reisio> deltra: hola
[15:44] <deltra> stoy buscando a arrweb  ?? alguien lo vio ?
[15:44] <compdoc> english
[15:45] <Pici> !es | deltra
[15:53] <deltra> #ubuntu-es
[15:54] <Multiply> How do I get an upstart service out of a confused state? (stop/killed, process XXXX)
[15:54] <Multiply> The process isn't running, but it's still in that state
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Multiply: can you kill -9 it?
[15:55] <intrader> Anyone, continuing experiment about ubuntu 13.10 problem with suspend. It appears that suspend disables wifi and networking just as closing the laptop lid does. Upon wakeup via the ON button, login screen comes up but neworking and wifi are disabled. Forces a reboot as enabling networking does not enable wifi also.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you unload and reload the driver module, does it start working?
[15:57] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I unload and reload the driver?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> intrader: what is the driver module?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i driver      will tell you
[16:00] <intrader> ActionParsnip, thankyou, but I am not seeking to find what driver module. I am waiting to resolve issue with suspend turning wifi and networking off. Enabling networking does not start the wifi
[16:00] <Multiply> ActionParsnip, the process isn't running.
[16:01] <Multiply> Doesn't exist, either. I just want to clear the state of my service
[16:01] <siv> hello. anyone want to take a stab at a hdmi sound issue on dom0 / xen ?
[16:02] <xll11> how to start the gui mode from terminal?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you find it, then unload it and reload it, it can make the device 'wake up' this will solve your issue right?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Multiply: sudo service name status     is it running?
[16:03] <cromag> is it normal for apt-get update to use 100% disk I/O with 1mb/s ?
[16:04] <cromag> i have an apt-get update running for 20 minutes and that is happening
[16:04] <cromag> on an SSD disk
[16:04] <cromag> i have no idea why
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> cromag: writing a lot of small file can do that
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> cromag: maybe its a bug
[16:04] <Multiply> ActionParsnip, as I wrote, start/killed or stop/killed is the status. It always report the same PID, regardless of how many times I try to start, or stop the service. Starting or stopping hangs, by the way, until I ctrl+c and try again. The PID never changes. And it's not running either.
[16:05] <cromag> hitsujiTMO: that i understand, it's during "reading package list"
[16:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, first, how do I cut text from Xchat. Second how do I unload/reload driver. Third, all needs to happen in wakeup/suspend/wakeup automatically on
[16:05] <cromag> ActionParsnip: how can i debug maybe ?
[16:05] <cromag> ltrace stuff ?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you tell me the name (I told you how to get the name) I can give you the name
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> intrader: I can give you the command to unload and reload it
[16:05] <Guest28138> i don't know what is wrong with caffeine but how hard can it be to xscreensaver - exit, or xscreensaver --no-splash
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> intrader: you dont seem to want to know the name of the driver, despite the fact that it may in fact resolve your issue
[16:06] <MrSassyPants> Heys. I did an ssh local port forward to my proxy (in a 1gb lan) and speed was ~250kB/s. When I used the proxy directly, speed was higher (7+mB/s, what my isp offers). there was no noticeable cpu usage on ssh / sshd on either side, -C did not make a difference. so why is the ssh tunnel so much slower?
[16:06] <xll11> blah, now I get a blackscreen after login
[16:06] <xll11> :(
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> intrader: your move
[16:08] <EyePulp> yo ho ho
[16:08] <Lingo> hello
[16:09] <intrader> ActionParsnip, the driver is PCI
[16:09] <EyePulp> how long has there been a /var/log/upstart/  directory with actual logs sitting in it?  It seems like a somewhat recent change (and a good one at that)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> intrader: wait, your PCI bus is slow
[16:09] <EyePulp> and is there a way to get that behavior working on older distros?
[16:10] <intrader> ActionParsnip, what does that have to do with the suspend/awake issue of disabling wifi wnd networking
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: because the module is probably whats causing your issue
[16:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, so how do I unload and reload the driver?
[16:11] <leif_> is there a irc for people into sever stuff on ubuntu
[16:11] <kostkon> leif_, #ubuntu-server?
[16:12] <leif_> ok
[16:12] <intrader> ActionParsnip, sorry about the delay in answering above - but I was looking up how to clip text from Xchat window - could not find how to do it.
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: sudo modprobe -r <module> && sudo modprobe <module>
[16:13] <abradley> I'm having the dickens of a time figuring out how to mount an nfs share in ubudesktop
[16:14] <Dirkos> I installed a VM with ubuntu 10.2 LTS but how can i get the latest PHP version? since 5.3 is still in the repo
[16:15] <loa> 10.2?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:16] <Dirkos> ah sorry
[16:16] <upverter-is-cool> Hi everyone! I recently made the mistake of installing the OSX update called Maverick (not to be confused with Ubuntu 10.10) and it has lead me down a path to where I need to wipe my ubuntu installation.
[16:16] <Dirkos> 12.04 LTS
[16:16] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I get for first command: 'FATAL: Module PCI not found.'
[16:16] <Dirkos> was confused with something else
[16:16] <upverter-is-cool> That being said, I want to know if Ubuntu 13.04 is still the recommended version for installing on a 13" Macbook Pro Retina (10,2)
[16:16] <Dirkos> like for debian i could always use the dotdeb repo but is there anything for ubuntu?
[16:17] <upverter-is-cool> Or should I install 13.10 instead?
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: is there a specific reason why you need a later version than 5.3?
[16:17] <tim167> hello, I have a computer here, which I have to use for a project, but it has an _ancient_ ubuntu 8 on it, what's the best way to upgrade it? (update-manager) proposes upgrade to ubuntu 10, but that seems like its not really much better...)
[16:17] <Dirkos> 5.3 is end of life already hitsujiTMO and i need some stuff available in 5.4 anyhow
[16:17] <Dirkos> so i'd rather upgrade to 5.5.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> intrader: run:  sudo lshw -C network    wait, then read
[16:18] <upverter-is-cool> @tim167 start with a usb or CD and upgrade all the way to 13.10
[16:18] <gordonjcp> tim167: flatten and reinstall
[16:18] <andry> test
[16:18] <upverter-is-cool> @tim167 it is not advised to upgrade over more than 4 updates
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: you'll have to find a PPA with the later version then. just be careful as there's a few poor PPAs around with bad installs.
[16:18] <gordonjcp> tim167: ensure that your computer has either 64-bit or PAE support ;-)
[16:19] <Dirkos> hitsujiTMO: thats why im asking
[16:19] <intrader> ActionParsnip, my bad, the driver is ath5k. Note the the grep does not find the driver - but I could tell from the console output
[16:19] <tim167> upverter-is-cool: ok, thanks for your advice, I guess it would be best to start with a clean install on a new disk... :)
[16:19] <cromag> ActionParsnip: do you have an idea on how i can debug the apt-get update / iowait ?
[16:19] <gordonjcp> tim167: new disk is a good idea
[16:19] <whoever> what is the quickest way to dev a tray app ? gtk ? or another
[16:19] <whoever> i know stupid question
[16:19] <gordonjcp> tim167: every so often I just pull the drive and do a fresh install
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 is one of the more popular ones, but i have not tried it myself
[16:20] <gordonjcp> whoever: depends what desktop you're developing for
[16:20] <tim167> gordonjcp: it's actually ubuntustudio i'm running, and the audio drivers are all tweaked just right, so I've never been inclined to 'change a winning team'...
[16:20] <andry> test
[16:20] <andry> :P
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: please, note that you may also be forced to update apache2.2 to apache2.4
[16:21] <whoever> gordonjcp: a tray icon that will maintain 2 states and run a different command on click state
[16:21] <intrader> ActionParsnip, the modprobe pair disables/enables neworking and wifi
[16:22] <intrader> ActionParsnip, now I need to have it happen on suspend/resume
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: also not that 5.3 is not end of life ...
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: actually, sorry it is EOL, my bad
[16:24] <whoever> gordonjcp: so what would be the best option
[16:25] <whoever> gordonjcp: or does gnome already contain a configurable tray icon , and i just have to add it to my tray
[16:26] <EyePulp> so I *think* i have an upstart managed service running, but I can't seem to kill it, and there's no longer a /etc/init/ file for it.  How do I kill it, as it just seems to restart under a new PID each time I try?
[16:27] <andry> EyePulp, ehm
[16:27] <andry> expect fork needs to be added then
[16:27] <intrader> ActionParsnip, now I need to have it happen on suspend/resume
[16:27] <andry> "expect fork" as new line under description ie
[16:27] <nikhil_> anyone here know how to set focus to follow mouse using Linux Mint cinnamon?
[16:28] <genii> !mintsupport | nikhil_
[16:28] <andry> funny i had the exact same problem 10 minutes ago :D
[16:28] <EyePulp> andry: there's no upstart script for the service - I'm trying to kill it off completely.
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend
[16:28] <EyePulp> just trying to untangle which process it controlling it =\
[16:28] <andry> oh okay sorry, misread it ..
[16:28] <andry> which process?
[16:28] <genii> EyePulp: Maybe it still has old sysvinit entry in /etc/init.d/
[16:29] <andry> hm sysvinit wouldnt restart it i think
[16:29] <EyePulp> genii: Nope - it was a service I wrote some time ago under /etc/init
[16:29] <andry> or try "pstree" to see where it spawns from
[16:29] <EyePulp> ooh - pstree
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo modprobe -r ath5k; sleep 5; sudo modprobe ath5k      will unload it and reload it, dos it help?
[16:29] <EyePulp> lemme look up the syntax
[16:29]  * whoever just realized he can't code anything while system is updatiing qt is not installed
[16:29]  * whoever wants to cry
[16:31] <gordonjcp> whoever: I don't know, I guess there must be some documentation on writing tray apps for Unity somewhere on the Ubuntu wiki
[16:32] <intrader> ActionParsnip, hang on, I am have not red the article
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: gordonjcp: docs: https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[16:32] <EyePulp> andry: So I found the process, which eventually links back to init  Now how do I kill it?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> EyePulp: everything links back to init. It is the mother of all processed and is always PID 1
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> or is it 0
[16:33] <andry> sudo killall processname or sudo kill $(pidof processname)
[16:33] <andry> but dont kill init
[16:33] <andry> :D
[16:34] <BAMbanda> If I'm upgrading ubuntu from my terminal, is it dangerous to do other things?
[16:34] <BAMbanda> such as being in irc rightnow?
[16:34] <intrader> ActionParsnip, Is this not a bug in 13.10?
[16:34] <SPEEDWAVE> my dta 2 hero are invisible anyone here knows how to fix it please...
[16:35] <SPEEDWAVE> i mean dota 2
[16:35] <BAMbanda> If I'm upgrading ubuntu from my terminal, is it dangerous to do other things?
[16:36] <reisio> BAMbanda: other things not to do with package management, nope
[16:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I stop Xchat (not let is scroll)
[16:37] <BAMbanda> reisio, thanks!
[16:38] <vitor_in> Hi, I'm having problems with ubuntu 12.04 and xrdp.
[16:39] <vitor_in> anyone could help?
[16:41] <EyePulp> argh - my kill and killall work, but a new process pops up immediately.  It's a resilient sucker
[16:41] <reisio> EyePulp: while(true); do kill foo; done
[16:41] <EyePulp> any way to figure out what upstart is currently managing in a list?
[16:41] <Guest78798> is there a command that will show me what driver is in use for a usb device?
[16:42] <gpled> can someone work with me to solve a seemingly simple dns/dhcp question?
[16:43] <minimec> Guest78798: What if you plugged the device and read out 'dmesg' in a terminal. The las 5-10 lines. There you see what driver is called.
[16:43] <dv-_> gpled: don't ask to ask, just state your problem, and if anyone looking knows, they'll tell you
[16:44] <intrader> ActionParsnip, should this issue not be reported as a bug?
[16:45] <gpled> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases shows <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:45] <gpled> my system keeps using <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:46] <gpled> why is it not using <IP_ADDRESS>,208 or <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:47] <Rexter> minimec I get no info all errors
[16:49] <Rexter> minimec; maybe I'm not going about this the best way. I need to find out what driver package a usb wireless adapter is using.
[16:50] <intrader> ActionParsnip, there is a bug reporte with workaround: #1234469: Network does not come up after resuming from suspend.
[16:51] <minimec> Rexter: Ok. Do you know how paste.ubuntu.com works? paste the output of 'dmesg' you got on that side and give me the link
[16:54] <Rexter> minimec; http://pastebin.com/gTqbU0Kq
[16:54] <traubisoda> hi there
[16:55] <traubisoda> if I have a webserver, and I purchased a domain which point to this server, do I have to adjust anything on my server regarding the domain name?
[16:55] <minimec> Rexter: Ok. This is a wifi module right. Now do the same with 'lsusb' and 'iwconfig'. Paste the result on paste.ubuntu.com again.
[16:56] <traubisoda> the server was used before based on IP address
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: you are displaying leases for 2 different networks. you are on the <IP_ADDRESS> network would be why you have that ip
[16:59] <bean> traubisoda: depends on your apache config.
[16:59] <gpled> option domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>;
[16:59] <gpled> this is for name server.  getting the correct and working ip address.  just using the wrong dns server
[17:00] <operatorplik> cara instal cheat engine gimana gan...:D
[17:00] <traubisoda> bean: it's default, should I place the domain in the config file?
[17:01] <bean> traubisoda: I'd try it out and see if it works. I usually throw a "ServerName mydnsname.com" then "ServerAlias www.mydnsname.com" in the virtualhost just to make thigns happy
[17:02] <traubisoda> bean: virtualhosts had been already made
[17:03] <Rexter> minimec; http://pasebin.com/h0Sj46wz
[17:03] <benzrf> hi, I need a new  bootable partition quickly
[17:03] <benzrf> if I put  the installer disk iso into it, will I be able to boot that?
[17:04] <Rexter> minimec; oops sorry http://pastebin.com/h0Sj46wz
[17:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, sorry, I had to reboot - is the suspend/resume bug resolved?
[17:06] <traubisoda> my real problem is, that php mail() runs very slow(aprox. 1 minute), so I 'tcpdump'-ed a mail sending issue, and the first delay was a DNS lookup for localhost.localdomain
[17:07] <minimec> Rexter: It's ok. I got it. So the wireless seems ok. On the other hand that "Philips (or NXP) Consumer Infrared Transceiver" is probably not so easy to configure... but seems possible. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765178
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: how do you know it is using the last dns ?
[17:08] <kilit> asd
[17:09] <Rexter> minimec; It's working fine on Ubuntu 12.04, I know as soon as say this I'll be pointed to #linuxmint-help, but they were pointing me to here.
[17:09] <Rexter> minimec, I'm trying to find out what driver this device is using on ubuntu 12.04
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: is your dns working at all?
[17:09] <n008> I get permission error when ei echo http://twitter.com <IP_ADDRESS> >> /etc/hosts
[17:10] <everald> Hi. How do I rebuild a ubuntu kernel with identical config and all? I'll just patch a file.
[17:10] <n008> how do I sudo ^
[17:10] <gpled> dns is working, it is just using the 3rd entry instead of the fist two
[17:10] <n008> sudo echo doen't work
[17:10] <Pici> n008: echo http://twitter.com <IP_ADDRESS> | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:10] <n008> Pici: what does tee do?
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, because it worked with no fuss here, but doesn't work at all on Linux Mint 13, which is based on, and compatible with Ubuntu 12.04. I figure if it's just midding a package that I couls install in Linux Mint, if i can find out what Ubuntu is using.
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, follow?
[17:11] <Pici> n008: it takes things from stdin and puts them into the file.  sudo will not pass IO redirection operators.
[17:11] <minimec> Rexter: I see ;)
[17:11] <n008> Pici: thanks
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, so the question remains, what driver is this device using?
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> n008: why do you want to add such an entry into /etc/hosts?   thats an invalid hosts entry
[17:11] <n008> Pici: -a means append ?
[17:12] <Pici> n008: yep
[17:12] <n008> hitsujiTMO: it was done wrong
[17:12] <n008> was meeant to be the other way roung
[17:12] <n008> round
[17:12] <n008> to block twitter
[17:13] <minimec> Rexter: Is lirc installed?
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: can you pastebin the output of: dig @<IP_ADDRESS> google.ie
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> n008: thats still wrong and not going to do what you want
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> n008: you don't specify the protocol for host file ... and that will only block twitter.com not www.twitter.com
[17:15] <minimec> Rexter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765178
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[17:16] <FloodBot1> conejita_play_bo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[17:17] <FloodBot1> conejita_play_bo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <Meistarin> Anyone able to help me with getting vnc on ubuntu server x64 12.04 _
[17:17] <Rexter> minimec, it's the RT5370 that I'm asking about. This device it working.
[17:19] <minimec> Rexter: https://www.google.com/search?q=RT5370+driver+ubuntu+130.10&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en#channel=fe&hl=en&q=RT5370+driver+ubuntu
[17:20] <Rexter> minimec, actually. I think I found my solution. I need to add a kernel module to /etc/modules, I'm not sure how to do it, but it's going to be a bit more of a Linux Mint question.
[17:20] <minimec> Rexter: Interresting thing is, that iwconfig sees the device... It's just not
[17:20] <n008> hitsujiTMO: echo <IP_ADDRESS> twitter.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:20] <n008> that works
[17:20] <Meistarin> Anyone able to help me with getting vnc on ubuntu server x64 12.04 _
[17:21] <minimec> Rexter: sudo nano /etc/modules ; add the driver ; <ctrl>X yes.
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> n008: more precisely: echo <IP_ADDRESS> twitter.com www.twitter.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:22] <yeyeman> how do I make quoted text in thunderbird?
[17:23] <shroomduke> funny, I turn off the touchpad but it always comes back on after restart
[17:23] <Rexter> minimec; I did the commands in the terminal, and the device worked. Do I just add the command to the modules?
[17:24] <Rexter> minimec; 'As explained in the ubuntuforums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902715) the rt2870sta driver is no longer part of the kernel. So the rt2800usb has to be used. This is done via
[17:24] <Rexter> echo 'install rt2800usb modprobe --ignore-install rt2800usb ; /bin/echo "148f 5370" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf
[17:24] <Rexter> sudo modprobe -v rt2800usb
[17:24] <Rexter> To get the rt2800usb loaded at every startup rt2800usb hast do be added to /etc/modules
[17:24] <Rexter> From then on it works fine."
[17:24] <FloodBot1> Rexter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <intrader> Anyone, 13.10 transition between window opening are slow as molasses - for example open a new tab on a directory
[17:26] <Rexter> minimec, so do i just add "echo 'install rt2800usb modprobe --ignore-install rt2800usb ; /bin/echo "148f 5370" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf" to /etc/modules?
[17:26] <minimec> Rexter: I you have that rt2800usb.conf in /etc/modprobe.d , you can just add the DRIVER to /etc/modules
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what graphics chipset are you using?
[17:26] <Rexter> minimec, what's the syntax?
[17:26] <minimec> Rexter: You execute that command. That will create a file.
[17:27] <minimec> Rexter: Then you add the driver you want to load to /etc/modules
[17:27] <minimec> Rexter: Just add the name of the driver.
[17:28] <n008> hitsujiTMO: cool thanks
[17:29] <Rexter> minimec; http://pastebin.com/JfY6ujSK
[17:29] <SPEEDWAVE> Guys check my video driver is this a latest driver in ubuntu or i need to update this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325176/
[17:29] <Rexter> minimec; so safe it like that?
[17:29] <DavidBrooke> I have a video problem...kernel: [27023.619843] [drm] capturing error event; look for more information in /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state.....wasn't sure if this was the correct forum?
[17:29] <minimec> Rexter: Exactly.
[17:30] <Rexter> minimec; ok, awesome, than you. I'm going down for reboot to try it out.
[17:31] <exalt> my unity top bar is empty, no global menu or sys tray, any ideas on howto fix ?
[17:36] <Gallomimia> DavidBrooke: you should probably mention more about what release you're running
[17:38] <erbal1st> how can i see what .so files a process has loaded?
[17:40] <exalt> erbal1st: try lsof -p <pid>
[17:41] <erbal1st> thanks exalt
[17:45] <Laurenceb> hi
[17:46] <daftykins> Laurenceb: hi
[17:46] <Laurenceb> is there a texlive-latex-extra on launchpad?
[17:49] <OerHeks> Laurenceb, here is > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+package/texlive-latex-extra >>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/texlive-latex-extra
[17:50] <ngochai> Hi guys, I'm trying to find a list of allow (or a list of invalid) characters for password, can someone point me a link? I've been googling for about 3 hours
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: password for what exactly?
[17:53] <ngochai> hitsujiTMO, system user password
[17:54] <OerHeks> all typable characters can be used AFAIK > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords#Strong_Passwords
[17:54] <beliveyourdream> how can i downgrade apache from 2.4 to 2.2 on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:54] <ikonia> beliveyourdream: there isn't a 2.2 package
[17:55] <beliveyourdream> damn
[17:55] <mustmodify> is there something like tail for a file like /proc/loadavg that doesn't add more lines, just changes?
[17:55] <mustmodify> I want to just watch it.
[17:55] <ngochai> OerHeks, hitsujiTMO, I'm wringing a document for our embedded ubuntu system, I need to know the allowed/ invalid character for password
[17:55] <evilytwisted> Hi, is there a wget command or curl command which i could download the contents of a webpage and its entirety to my computer for a cached copy?
[17:56] <ngochai> wrting
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: afaik, technically any characters are alllowed ... issues arise with special chars tho, best to keep with standard ascii chars
[17:56] <GimmiLFactorY> I need more computer friends. I ubuntu cloud people! :D
[17:57] <e_t_> mustmodify: watch cat /proc/loadavg
[17:57] <e_t_> evilytwisted: try the -m option to wget.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: by special chars, ofc i do mean unicode chars
[17:58] <evilytwisted> So like wget -m google.com?
[17:58] <ngochai> hitsujiTMO, I wonder why noone ever asks about this, google only show a few related questions
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: i think it's one of the taken for granted questions
[17:59] <OerHeks> ngochai, it is worth a question on askubuntu.com
[17:59] <e_t_> evilytwisted: it will give you a static HTML copy of the site in question. For more info, try 'man wget'
[18:00] <evilytwisted> statical?
[18:00] <evilytwisted> static.. that means it wont change right
[18:00] <evilytwisted> just what i downloaded
[18:00] <excognac> hi all. just a little theoretical question why LTS is LTS when it doesnáthave support AT ALL for newer processors
[18:01] <ikonia> excognac: it does
[18:01] <ikonia> excognac: that's why there are new updates for it during it's support period
[18:01] <e_t_> evilytwisted: yes, it also means that dynamic scripts, like PHP won't by dynamic anymore.
[18:01] <exalt_> grrr unity drives me crazy, somthing killed my systray and global menu... i cnt fking firuge it out, its bothering me for two days now
[18:02] <evilytwisted> I never set a saved path  where does it save to automatically?
[18:02] <evilytwisted> ah nevermind e_t_  i found it :D
[18:02] <exalt_> ikonia: i got told you are the ubuntu wizzard that will be able to fix my problem
[18:03] <excognac> ikonia: if zou remember me from the morning, it challanges me hard just install drivers for graphics, and it is really annoying. I failed to install the intel ones so i added this https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa. now the machine doesn't even boot.
[18:05] <ikonia> exalt_: not sure who told you that, but if you ask the channel, many people can try to help
[18:05] <excognac> ikonia: or anyone> how do i remove a ppa with a live-cd?
[18:05] <exalt_> ikonia: i already did
[18:06] <ikonia> excognac: I do remember this morning, but I also remember saying adding extenral software was a bad bad idea
[18:06] <excognac> ikonia: well, i failed with native intel drivers, my fault. end of story?
[18:07] <exalt_> ikonia: to be more correct i already asked it 6 times the past two days, both in the dutch and english channel and no one seems to know the answer to my problem
[18:07] <ikonia> excognac: my initial thought is that your card is not being detected correctly by xorg, and therefore not using the existin intel xorg module
[18:07] <movedx> Is anyone running a Radeon HD 7000 series (specifically a 7850) on 13.10?
[18:09] <ikonia> excognac: you should normally get "some" output from intel cards from the pre-installed xorg modules with ubuntu, then a bit of tweaking can be requried for some models, however from where you are now it's a bit of a pain to undo
[18:09] <excognac> ikonia: ok, i'll reinstall it then. start the whole thing again.
[18:11] <excognac> ikonia: what shall i do right after> install lightdm, as without it i ain't have a graphical interface at all.
[18:11] <ikonia> excognac: what do you mean ? the ubuntu install comes with a gui
[18:11] <Rarrikins> Is there a way to upgrade directly from 12.10 to 13.10?