[18:29] <moonunitzappa> and when i double click to auto run, it hangs up then dissapers
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Jimmy888: if bashrc isn't ran when you fire up a terminal then copy /root/.profile and chown ;-)
[18:30] <moonunitzappa> any ideas?
[18:30] <luxigo> jackoriper: a workaround for editing menu.lst is to uninstall grub2, modify menu.lst and reinstall grub2..
[18:30] <jackoriper> adminewb: system is mine, i installed it, to be clear, im new immigrant towards  linux
[18:30] <SilverMonkey> anyone no how to get jupiter to work in xubuntu 11.10 i installed it but it keeps complaining about being whitelisted and need to log back on but it just keeps repeating the same message
[18:30] <adminewb> jackoriper: at a terminal window you can type "dpkg -s grub-pc" (with no quotes)
[18:30] <laci_> weeb : i set 01 * * * * /usr/bin/programname and it doesn't work
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Jimmy888: yes xfce4 will install a minimum xfce session
[18:30] <jimmy8888> ActionParsnip: thanks its working now that i copied my .bashrc from backup back to my home directory
[18:31] <s1> craigbass1976: np , just to let you know abou something i've found .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/156191/comments/18 http://www.pikopong.com/blog/2008/09/09/java-printing-fix-for-linux-with-cups/
[18:31] <jimmy8888> ActionParsnip: ok and i can run xfce side by side with unity?
[18:31] <taco> I'm having trouble downloading the recommended packages.  Each time I update, I am directed to a security package with dead links.  I am unsure where to get these packages.  Also checked http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ to no avail.
[18:31] <jimmy8888> just switch at the logon screen?
[18:31] <under> arghx, so?
[18:31] <Jax90> blackxored, there's a wiki page that discusses mgetty and serial consoles.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto   (unless you've already seen it)
[18:31] <xrdodrx> taco, did you change your package mirror?
[18:31] <adminewb> jackoriper: pastebin the output if you can't digest it yourself
[18:32] <taco> xrdodrx no I didn't
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Jimmy888: sure you can even run unity on top of xfce
[18:32] <blackxored> Jax90, on it
[18:32] <blackxored> Jax90, hope it helps
[18:32] <jackoriper> adminewb: truely , it is going bouncer over my head reading the output
[18:32] <taco> xrdodrx how do I change the package mirror?
[18:33] <devlin> Hey, was wondering if someone could PM me and help me out. Installed 11.10 with Wubi and now ubuntu keeps loading to a black scren and "nomodeset" isn't working for me. (but nomodeset worked the first time to finish the installation after reboot.) Running W7 on my HP g6 laptop.
[18:33] <jackoriper> adminewb:  this lines says Description: GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
[18:33] <jackoriper>  .... so it should be version 2
[18:33] <adminewb> jackoriper: used a pastebin before? can you copy the output to the system clipboard?
[18:33] <adminewb> oh yes, sounds right
[18:33] <Phr3d13> having a problem with nvidia drivers, trying to run a game and get this in terminal: http://pastie.org/2725314
[18:34] <jimmy8888> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help, appreciate it!
[18:34] <Varanasi> hi... i am a newbie to linux.... I have ubuntu11.10 in my laptop (Dell inspiron) But music comes from both from speaker and headphone.... how to make it normal? Thanks
[18:34] <Jax90> always found grub2 to be difficult to tinker with myself
[18:35] <adminewb> jackoriper: in that case, booting with grub2, the recommended way of NOT editing grub.cfg file (not directly anyway) is described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[18:35] <craigbass1976> s1, I'm more leaning toward a problem with Dell.  It's been my experience that they'd screw up  a free lunch by asking for change...  I used their script to install the printer.  If I have another box running Linux (xubuntu Lucid -- same as this one) and the same java app that DOES print properly, is there a ppd file or something I can just grab and throw in the right spot on this box?
[18:35] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[18:35] <xrdodrx> taco, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all url's to one of the mirrors here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:35] <svm_invictvs> I'm trying to get a copy of Oracle XE installed on my Ubuntu box
[18:36] <jackoriper> adminewb: http://pastebin.com/mtukdDLD
[18:36] <svm_invictvs> It's complaining that, "Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"
[18:36] <svm_invictvs> Is there a way to get it to install the i386 build?
[18:36] <devlin> Hey, was wondering if someone could PM me and help me out. Installed 11.10 with Wubi and now ubuntu keeps loading to a black scren and "nomodeset" isn't working for me. (but nomodeset worked the first time to finish the installation after reboot.) Running W7 on my HP g6 laptop.
[18:36] <xrdodrx> taco, you're of course going to want to backup your current sources.list, cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/.sources.list
[18:36] <moonunitzappa> Im trying to install a .run file.  But when i auto run it hangs up and dissapers, but when i run in term is says i have NO VFS DATA TO START UP     anyideas?
[18:37] <Phr3d13> having a problem with nvidia drivers, trying to run a game and get this in terminal: http://pastie.org/2725314
[18:38] <taco> will do xrdodrx
[18:38] <dweez> Anyone else installed Gnome 3 and are having issues with it pegging the cpu?
[18:38] <niftylettuce> hey guys
[18:38] <akpg_> exit
[18:38] <svm_invictvs> Phr3d13: Your drivers werent' compiled against your kernel
[18:38] <arghx> Phr3d13: line 4 to 7
[18:38] <adminewb> jackoriper, yes it looks like a normal grub2 installation for lucid or similar
[18:38] <Phr3d13> how do i fix it?
[18:38] <svm_invictvs> Phr3d13: how did you install you rdrivers, and are you using a custom kernel?
[18:38] <niftylettuce> last night I performed an upgrade on 10.04, this thread was just started after this is critical issue was found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864567
[18:38] <antihc3> has anyone know how to fix  system_bus_socket being inaccessible after reboot.  Only started after the latest update to 11.10.  I have mv it and reboot but then i am now showing i need to reboot for updates to complete.
[18:38] <Phr3d13> no on custom kernel, and installed drivers via a run file DL'ed from nvidia
[18:39] <moonunitzappa> Im trying to install a .run file.  But when i auto run it hangs up and dissapers, but when i run in term is says i have NO VFS DATA TO START UP     anyideas?
[18:39] <arghx> antihc3: you have mv what
[18:39] <svm_invictvs> Phr3d13: Use the drivers provided by Ubuntu...
[18:39] <`Yahoo> Anyone know the Elementary PPA for Pantheon
[18:39] <arghx> Phr3d13: you simply install the glx drivers of the same version as your kernelmodule. dpkg -l |grep nvidia will show packages of different versions
[18:39] <niftylettuce> I'm on a live CD right now, and I have no way of rolling back the package since I can't even boot, the ubuntu logo shows and then disapears -- I dont know of hotkeys etc. to boot without graphics and I tried booting into GRUB using shift / e combinations but it just blanked screen as well
[18:39] <Phr3d13> the beta drivers work better for newer games when i can get them installed correctly
[18:39] <antihc3> arghx, i mv /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[18:40] <niftylettuce> if anyone could help me I will greatly appreciate it
[18:40] <Jax90> moonunitzappa, googling that, seems that sometimes it's due to a bad download.  Try again, and try to confirm correct download using the md5 if possible
[18:40] <adminewb> jackoriper, did you spot the help link i posted? again http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 hope that helps do what it was you wanted done
[18:40] <arghx> niftylettuce: chroot to your ubuntu installation and uninstall the package with apt-get
[18:40] <moonunitzappa> how can i check MD5 of my file. i forget    Jax90
[18:41] <niftylettuce> arghx: could you explain a little more on `chroot` and how to do that?
[18:41] <`Yahoo> Anyone?  Trying to find the Pantheon PPA for 11.10?
[18:41] <arghx> niftylettuce: is your ubuntu installation filesystem mounted? if yes, where?
[18:41] <laci_> hi all! i want to make scheduled tasks with crontab, but it wasn't work. for sudo crontab -l i got # 01 * * * * /usr/bin/programname . why it doesn't work?
[18:41] <niftylettuce> arghx: i think i figured it out, I did `chroot /media/mypartition`
[18:41] <shantorn> would someone know how to manualy define a monitor on my dual monitor set up with an nvidia card, nvidia control panel and monitor do not see the monitos native resolution?
[18:41] <arghx> niftylettuce: good. now use apt-get like normally
[18:42] <jackoriper> adminewb: working on  ubuntu 10.10 , tried installing 11.04  in different partition, there were few issues found in new version compatibility with sony vaio, so old version is used , but its option is 6 in grub list now
[18:42] <jrib> laci_: what is the program?
[18:42] <svm_invictvs> Phr3d13: be that as it may, they won't work at all if they dnot' match your kernel
[18:42] <Phr3d13> how do i completely remove all nvidia drivers from my system to start over without having to re-install?
[18:42] <laci_> jrib qmmp
[18:42] <jrib> laci_: is it a gui program?  What does it do?
[18:42] <KoopaTroopa> I'm having a little trouble changing my Unity launchers settings http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864849
[18:42] <Phr3d13> i also have a beta ppa added into my sources
[18:42] <arghx> Phr3d13: how did you install your nvidia drivers?
[18:42] <Bragex9> need some advice here... I have upgraded from 10.04 and up tp 11.10, and my system has become a complete mess. Unable to log in, display settings are bad etc. I am going to delete everything and perform a clean install. Should I do anything with the partition option, or just go for standard?
[18:42] <Phr3d13> beta ppa and .run file
[18:42] <laci_> jrib winamp clone GUI
[18:43] <Jax90> moonunitzappa, first, try to get the md5 hashes from where you got the package - not everyone has them.  it's like a checksum that'll tell you when the dload is correct.  Then, install md5sum, and you can use md5sum package.bin  to get a hash. then compare.  Alterantively, just download again =)  worth a try
[18:43] <laci_> jrib is it problem form crontab?
[18:43] <adminewb> jackoriper I see, well, you can change things like the default menu pick using just /etc/default/grub settings
[18:43] <craigbass1976> Anyone know where dovecot typically logs to?  I can't find it.  Trying to figure out what my house's ip address is based on what ip I checked mail from this morning...
[18:43] <luca__> hi all. just upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 and nothing happens when i connect my kindle. Can someone help?
[18:43] <happy> how can i upgrade  to 11.10 from 10.10???
[18:43] <jrib> laci_: well first of all, that doesn't sound like something you would want to run as root.  Use your user's crontab (no sudo).  But you need some additional information in your crontab for gui applications (you need to set DISPLAY).  See the wiki link from ubottu.
[18:43] <jrib> !cron | luca__
[18:43] <jrib> erm
[18:43] <jrib> !cron | laci_
[18:44] <arghx> craigbass1976: syslog, possibly mail.log
[18:44] <jrib> luca__: sorry, ignore me and ubottu's last message
[18:44] <luca_bi> are u using 11.10??
[18:44] <Jax90> has anyone here had complete success with updrading an instalation?  I always go for a clean install..
[18:44] <adminewb> jackoriper, is sony vaio a brand of notebook computer?
[18:44] <laci_> jrib thanks
[18:44] <jrib> Jax90: sure, many times
[18:44] <laci_> ubottu thanks
[18:44] <happy> ???
[18:44] <niftylettuce> arghx: so I removed xorg/xserver etc., now how would I rollback to an earlier version?
[18:45] <haus1> I clicked OK & off the update went... 11.4 - 11.10 ... it went fine !
[18:45] <arghx> niftylettuce: why would you do that?
[18:45] <llutz> craigbass1976:  grep -i log_path /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[18:45] <jackoriper> hi all ,there seems be a process(s) running on ubuntu by name  'zeitgeist', it seems to be some monitoring process ? please advice
[18:45] <arghx> niftylettuce: how exactly did you remove xorg?
[18:45] <niftylettuce> arghx:  sudo apt-get remove xserver-common xserver-xorg-core xnest
[18:45] <Jax90> jrib, heh, I just like the idea of a clean install.
[18:46] <arghx> niftylettuce: you use a repo which has your desired verison and install from that
[18:46] <craigbass1976> llutz, thank you.
[18:46] <luca_bi> dear friends I'd like to know the structure of android and the difference with unix
[18:46] <bhupc> #chronos
[18:46] <craigbass1976> llutz, I'm suupsed to stop using the r word, but I'm feeling pretty retarded about now...
[18:46] <haus1> I had all my applications, all my files, it worked... took 1/2 a day (I didn't baby sit it ) but it's working fine
[18:46] <zlude> hey! i'm going to boy a netbook, this model: http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/series/category/notebooks/mini210_series/3/computer_store i wanna know if ubuntu runs pretty on this netbook, and where can i download ubuntu for netbooks, i just can download on the site do desktops. someone can help me!?
[18:47] <niftylettuce> arghx: it tells me: Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main xnest 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.8
[18:47] <niftylettuce>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[18:47] <jackoriper> adminewb: yes, even ubuntu 10.10 has some issue, not much big one, just a small issue, sound comes out of speaker even though heardphones are used, so it disturbes others, its drivers issue i hope so in 10.10, i thought  this issue might be resolved in higer version like 11.04, but  it didnot help much, in other way i messed with audio and setting it made system deaf for ever, so now using older verion 10.10
[18:47] <arghx> zlude: there is no ubuntu for netbooks (anymore)
[18:47] <Jax90> jackoriper, zeitgeist is a monitoring program, part of ubuntu.  don't think it's malware (others correct me if I'm wrong).  There's a few places on the web where people discuss getting rid of it..
[18:48] <cajunmlle> zlude, you need to research the chipset(s) of all the peripherals builtin to that netbook
[18:48] <arghx> !hcl
[18:48] <hatchetjack> zlude: get a tablet
[18:48] <zlude> cajunmlle: ok! but, in ubuntu.com where can i download for netbooks?
[18:48] <jackoriper> Jax90: whenever i remember of it, i so ps -ef and kill it, can it automate this ...instead of doing it manually and that to do when i remember that it exist ?
[18:49] <zlude> cajunmlle: the downlaod is just following to Desktop and Ubuntu Server.
[18:49] <bobweaver> Is there a thai  irc room for ubuntu ? that anyone knows about ?
[18:49] <arghx> !pm | niftylettuce
[18:49] <Jax90> jackoriper, try this blog snippet.  may be useful.  http://johanharjono.com/archives/836
[18:49] <bobweaver> !thai
[18:49] <adminewb> jackoriper, it might be worth your while, if you still have a 11.04 system laying around, to try using it with an older version of the kernel; that might improve your sound driver (i.e. kernel module) issues
[18:49] <DerNascher> i lost unity in my light dm window manager selection, how can i get it back to work?
[18:50] <arghx> niftylettuce: where do you plan to get the older xorg packages from exactly?
[18:50] <bobweaver> !ไทย
[18:50] <okCPU_> what is the section after the domain name and after the first / in a url typically refered to as?
[18:51] <cajunmlle> zlude, I doubt you will find a build of ubuntu (or any linux distro) optimized just for netbooks. they will be for pcs, with various chipsets. like cpu chip, mb chipset, video chip, etc
[18:51] <niftylettuce> arghx: http://pastebin.com/GT0E7F3Q
[18:51] <B0g4r7> okCPU_, the "path"...?
[18:51] <jackoriper> adminewb: im using dualboot of 10.10 and 11.04 ...now in grub menu list 10.10 has gone down to 6th number,s o everytime i start my laptop i need to use down arrow to 6th number, incase i delay it chooses and go fwd with 1st option of the list
[18:52] <okCPU_> B0g4r7, thanks... i was racking my brain on that for a bit here... couldb't remember
[18:52] <niftylettuce> arghx: just the default ones I guess?
[18:52] <arghx> niftylettuce: simply running apt-get won't cut it. you need to know where you get your proper versioned x server from: the normal repos will NOT work
[18:52] <arghx> niftylettuce: the normal repos is where you got the broken version from....
[18:53] <niftylettuce> arghx: this is root of my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864567
[18:54] <niftylettuce> arghx: I'm guessing I need to install a version previous to the ~~7.8, but not sure where to look
[18:54] <arghx> niftylettuce: you repeat yourself. needlessly. have you even read the thread?
[18:54] <niftylettuce> arghx: yeah actually someone just posted something that gave me what I need, thanks though!
[18:54] <arghx> niftylettuce: and if you don't understand it, I suggest you wait until a fix is available from the repos
[18:55] <lyrae> It won't let me activated Nvidia drivers. I try to activate the restricted driver and it says it failed, telling me to look at a log file. this is the last 2 lines of the log file(all other lines say the same thing): http://pastebin.com/0PQLp2d2
[18:55] <lyrae> any idea?
[18:55] <arghx> lyrae: yes. paste proper error messages
[18:55] <cajunmlle> lyrae, do you need any of the special nvidia features of the driver, or just display?
[18:55] <arghx> first error message. not some random debug messages without any meaning
[18:56] <antnash> can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu onto existing lvm partitions?
[18:56] <popsch> does anyone have the same but in 11.10? ccsm -> grid -> set the shortcut for "put top right"; then use the shortcut; the window placement is incorrect (top instead of top right)
[18:56] <s1> craigbass1976: there is /etc/cups/ppd , but then it would depends on the printer-setup and lib for that to work.
[18:56] <aboSamoor> unity does not start, and compiz complain about missing plugins ? what should I do ?
[18:56] <shantorn> how would i define monitor0 as the system see's it increctly
[18:56] <JusticeZero> I'd like some input on my upgrade path. A lot has been said about Unity, mostly involving hair being torn out. I'm using an early netbook so unity is out of the picture most likely, i'm actually interested in trying out E17.. which for some reason is not available for Lucid. I'm considering a fresh install of Kubuntu 11.10 and then changing desktop - would that be a good route or is there some other quirks I should be aware of?
[18:57] <fadyfido> dear all
[18:57] <arghx> JusticeZero: your old netbook has a i945 or so which can run Unity
[18:57] <fadyfido> kindly tell me
[18:57] <niftylettuce> arghx: i'm getting error output when installing `xserver-xorg-core` as per this pastebin output http://pastebin.com/vRVxcnqm
[18:57] <lyrae> arghx, you're right. tail of the log file: http://pastebin.com/RRsiQ6Bw,   cajunmlle i suppose i need the features...as the current driver installed wont let me set the display to its native resolution
[18:58] <fadyfido> what is the best android os system
[18:58] <fadyfido> to flash on tmobile htc hd2
[18:58] <JusticeZero> Gnome was eating enough resources to irk me, I have XFCE in right now.
[18:58] <cajunmlle> xfce is pretty good
[18:58] <niftylettuce> arghx: says i have dependency problems but i clearly installed all dependencies, no?
[18:58] <arghx> fadyfido: you are in the wrong channel. please go elsewhere. this is a ubuntu support channel only
[18:58] <xrdodrx> fadyfido, I think you're lost, this is the support room for Ubuntu, a free GNU/Linux operating system that isn't based on Android at all.
[18:59] <arghx> niftylettuce: line 19
[18:59] <taco> I wanted to ask anyone if the software packages here are needed.  This is the output I get from the update manager ---> http://pastebin.com/3W04jbsf
[18:59] <arghx> niftylettuce: you need to bind mount /dev into your chroot
[18:59] <adminewb> jackoriper, sounds as if you want to edit /etc/default/grub to say something like "GRUB_DEFAULT=6"?
[18:59] <JusticeZero> It is.. I'm having the usual "an update just came out" problems at the moment, and i'm considering some other tweaks.
[19:00] <martian> Is there a way to set a custom window manager icon for an application?
[19:00] <testeaff> what´s happen with 11.10? after upgrade I am getting /tmp problems, it says that´s read only so I cant touch /tmp/any file by consequence I am having problem to start the X
[19:00] <raven> 11.10 text install/netboot fails with coloured line on top of the splash screen. vga already set to 771 - what can i do?
[19:00] <arghx> taco: there is a problem with this package currently which is why it's not available right now. it will be fixed and then you will egt it
[19:00] <cajunmlle> JusticeZero, nothing says you have to update everytime an update comes out
[19:01] <taco> arghx ahhh...thanks! :)
[19:01] <yotam> I have a question
[19:01] <adminewb> jackoriper, pardon the delay, i was reading the blog post about turning off creepy zeitgeist logging
[19:01] <arghx> JusticeZero: in fact, with ubuntu it's usually a bad idea to immediately upgrade after a new one comes out
[19:01] <JusticeZero> I haven't been. I think I still have holdovers from 2008 in here.
[19:01] <testeaff> please anyone help me, the new ubuntu is mounting /tmp as read only
[19:02] <JusticeZero> Well, i've been wanting to try E, but there's no Lucid package for it.
[19:02] <adminewb> testeaff, eek! didn't anyone test oneiric at all?
[19:02] <devlin> Okay, so can somebody help me please?   :)
[19:02] <JusticeZero> Yeah.. It's a high risk high reward decision they made. We won't really see how it worked till the next LTR, I think.
[19:02] <cajunmlle> JusticeZero, is your intallation you've got now stable and does everything you need>
[19:03] <raven> 11.10 text install/netboot fails with coloured line on top of the splash screen. vga already set to 771 - what can i do?
[19:03] <martian> Is there a more modern alternative to gdesklets? the project seems to be stagnant.
[19:03] <JusticeZero> It's stable, with minor annoyances.
[19:03] <azriel> I just need to know the path to mplayer
[19:03] <azriel> anyone know it?
[19:03] <s1> !nomodeset | raven
[19:03] <ortsvorsteher> azriel, try in terminal which mplayer
[19:03] <azriel> ah thank you
[19:04] <azriel> that did it
[19:04] <ortsvorsteher> azriel, try also locate mplayer
[19:04] <azriel> ortsvorsteher: you win one internets
[19:04] <ivanoats> what's the best way to script installation of packages like ddclient that ask the user for info via a curses type interface?
[19:04] <craigbass1976> s1, /etc/cups/ppd...  It's empty
[19:04] <ortsvorsteher> a cookie would be enough ;) azriel
[19:05] <azriel> ortsvorsteher: *gives cookie*
[19:05] <arghx> ivanoats: dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[19:05] <maqro> hellolo
[19:05] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie | azriel
[19:05] <ortsvorsteher> ;)
[19:05] <JusticeZero> My i8mpression of Unity was that they felt the need to compete with what Win and Apple were aiming at, not what was existing, and they had 2 years till the next LTR, so they jumped for it hoping that when 12.04LTS comes out, Unity will be stable and useful.
[19:05] <ivanoats> arghx:  would that work for a first time installing a package?
[19:06] <azriel> o:
[19:06] <arghx> ivanoats: yes. but I dunno if that's what you want
[19:06] <cajunmlle> 11.10 has a lot of people with broken driver setups
[19:06] <s1> craigbass1976: if you've set a new printer , it shouldn't be empty. No !
[19:06] <azriel> !cookie |ortsvorsteher
[19:06] <weeb> I dislike the menu of unity ... I cannot find what I am looking for ...
[19:06] <maqro> i'm experiencing a freeze in ubuntu 11.10 when i try to switch users (nvidia card, worked totally fine with ubuntu 11.04), any ideas ?
[19:06] <ivanoats> arghx:  no, it doesn't work, says package is uninstalled. I need to script the first installation
[19:07] <JusticeZero> cajunmlle: As noted, mostly I wanted to test out E, to see if it fits my tastes better. But it doesn't work for Lucid.
[19:07] <arghx> ivanoats: debconf is not "uninstalled".
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> weeb: dash, second small icon below, filter (on top)
[19:07] <ortsvorsteher> weeb, is there at login screen i think a option to start with classic? i think there will be an "normal" gnome session after you select it
[19:07] <niftylettuce> arghx: where could I find a compatible version of `xserver-xorg` according to this output http://pastebin.com/NwrKzMw4
[19:07] <trollboy_> so I've installed gnome-panel...   looks like it wiped all my empathy accounts and deleted all my shortcut icons..  are we going to be forced to use the unity ui from now on then?
[19:07] <arghx> niftylettuce: wait until the fix comes out
[19:07] <JusticeZero> I suppose I could just kick it up to Maverick..
[19:07] <weeb> ortsvorsteher: no more in the new release :(
[19:08] <niftylettuce> arghx: any ETA on that ?
[19:08] <Explodingpiglets> when I plug a flash drive in, where will it appear?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> Explodingpiglets: in /media
[19:08] <Explodingpiglets> ok
[19:08] <ivanoats> arghx: ok, I get it now
[19:08] <Explodingpiglets> ok, where is /media?
[19:09] <Explodingpiglets> as in, where do I navigate from, starting on my desktop screen?
[19:09] <maqro> how can i know if the freeze is from x server/nvdia or unity/lightdm ??
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Explodingpiglets: File System - media
[19:09] <Explodingpiglets> ok
[19:09] <JusticeZero> Anyhow, I also need to set up my other laptop, and everything I hear about Unity has been bad. also when I ran it on that laptop it gave me a monitor flicker.
[19:09] <skyer2000> i need to allow a user access to /dev/ttyS3, what is the command for that?
[19:09] <skyer2000> write access, so I can run echo>/dev/ttyS0
[19:09] <s1> craigbass1976: if the configuration is lost , i'd start over https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[19:10] <peterpops12> When I install the nvidia drivers for my GT220 I only get a black screen on reboot, whats wrong ?
[19:10] <llutz> skyer2000: sudo adduser username dialout       (dialout is the group owning /dev/ttyS*)
[19:10] <ortsvorsteher> skyer2000, i think you need the user to bring to dialout group
[19:10] <devlin> ...*sigh*  Help?   :/
[19:10] <craigbass1976> s1, I am starting over.  I thought I'd go grab the drivers I'm used to using, but I cna't find them.  All I can find is an install script from Dell, and it's screwing me up.
[19:10] <prezes_> hello.apt-check take 100% of cpu-any solution(ubuntu 10.10)please help.
[19:10] <skyer2000> the user is www-data
[19:10] <raven> 166 cpu seems a bit too old for 11.10 ^^
[19:11] <llutz> skyer2000: sudo adduser username dialout
[19:11] <skyer2000> is it safe to change dialout to root? or is dialout always the owner of that?
[19:11] <luca_bi> dear friend is there a channel for C language?
[19:11] <niftylettuce> arghx: i got it! thank you so much :)
[19:12] <llutz> skyer2000: add the user to the dialout-group, don't mix permissions for the ttyS*
[19:12] <craigbass1976> s1, and I have a ppd file over on the working box.  is it just a quesiton of bring that file to this box?
[19:12] <cajunmlle> JusticeZero, I'm sure you'll have the chance to try Enlightenment at some point. I've used it, my impression were that the eye candy didn't really make it more useful, and maybe was distracting
[19:12] <ortsvorsteher> luca_bi, try /j #C
[19:12] <Explodingpiglets> ok, I am trying to run kbluetooth, and it says it's running, but I don't see it opening up
[19:12] <prezes_> hello.apt-check take 100% of cpu-any solution(ubuntu 10.10)please help.
[19:12] <s1> craigbass1976: will , if you got the printers.conf from another Ubuntu/Box , try that out.
[19:12] <aboSamoor> Hi, compiz fails to start, I need your help please :(
[19:13] <Explodingpiglets> ok, I am trying to run kbluetooth, and it says it's running, but I don't see it opening up
[19:13] <craigbass1976> s1, so, stop cups, grab printers.conf and this ppd file, and I should be golden?
[19:13] <EgyParadox> !kubuntu
[19:13] <JusticeZero> ok. Anyhow my main issue is that I have 2 computers, one reportedly needs Oneiric to run (though straight Ubuntu caused an odd monitor behavior) and the other is a lightweight.
[19:13] <prezes_> hello.apt-check take 100% of cpu-any solution(ubuntu 10.10)please help.
[19:14] <Explodingpiglets> ok, I am trying to run kbluetooth, and it says it's running, but I don't see it opening up
[19:14] <Explodingpiglets> sorry if I keep repeating myself
[19:14] <arghx> !repeat prezes_
[19:14] <EgyParadox> !kubuntu | Explodingpiglets
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> JusticeZero: lucid puppy (lupu) is very nice to work with
[19:14] <arghx> prezes_: and why don't you kill the process then?
[19:15] <Explodingpiglets> I see
[19:15] <SpartanMidday> hello
[19:15] <skyer2000> llutz: it works!
[19:15] <prezes_> I kill but this is not solution - lots of people have the same problem
[19:15] <s1> craigbass1976: thats right , stop CUPS, copy a backup printers.conf to /etc/cups/ and start CUPS again.
[19:15] <_jfb_> is zeitgeist running / installed on 11.10 by defualt?
[19:15] <prezes_> u give realy crap solution to sorted that
[19:16] <skyer2000> only problem is that there seems to be some sort of overflow protection, i'm running the command echo>/dev/ttyS3 and it only works once every 5 seconds or so
[19:16] <tim167> how do I install a Brother HL 4050CND printer ?
[19:16] <JusticeZero> I get an impression that K is a bit less aggressive. I don't wanr to have to put Oneiric on my work laptop and then get stuck fighting with Unity glitches and immaturities.
[19:16] <EgyParadox> !cups
[19:16] <llutz> skyer2000: sure it does :) be carefull giving your webserver access to the system, access should be as limited as possible
[19:17] <tim167> how do I install a Brother HL 4050CDN printer ? i get "Dependency is not satisfiable: hl4050cdnlpr" when I try to install the Brother cups printerdrivers
[19:17] <skyer2000> it's in a very contained environment
[19:17] <skyer2000> no public access
[19:17] <EgyParadox> _jfb_, yes
[19:17] <skyer2000> llutz is there a way to get around that?
[19:17] <skyer2000> (it's only for opening a cash drawer)
[19:17] <_jfb_> EgyParadox: but not activity journal?
[19:18] <tim167> when I try to install " http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/hl4050cdncupswrapper-1.0.3-1.i386.deb&lang=English_gpl " i get "Dependency is not satisfiable: hl4050cdnlpr" what can I do ?
[19:18] <aboSamoor> how can I set compiz/unity to their default settings? I think I screwed something when I was switching between video drivers!
[19:18] <llutz> skyer2000: i "guess" there are wrapper for such tasks, but i don't really know
[19:18] <EgyParadox> I am not sure you can ask in #zeitgeist
[19:18] <robin0800> tim167, you must install the lpr driver first
[19:18] <tim167> robin0800: ok, where/what is that ?
[19:18] <skyer2000> ok, thanks again
[19:18] <JusticeZero> Or should I just jump for Oneiric on the new computer and trust that they can get it sorted in the next week or two?
[19:18] <llutz> tim167: download both debs, "dpkg -i *.deb"
[19:19] <cajunmlle> JusticeZero, I wouldn't necessarily trust for that to happen
[19:19] <robin0800> tim167, it should be on the brother web site
[19:19] <llutz> tim167: brothers drivers usually have 2 deb-files, the cupswrapper + the dnlpr
[19:19] <nathan_> Yay! my headphone jack now switches the monitor speakers off!
[19:19] <prezes_> hello.apt-check take 100% of cpu-any solution(ubuntu 10.10)please help.
[19:20] <llutz> tim167: both named according to your printer-model
[19:20] <yeats> prezes_: it's a known bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/665580
[19:20] <nathan_> first time it's ever done that on any of my computers
[19:20] <JusticeZero> ok, so on the new computer, since it apparently needs ..kernal 3 was it? that packages with Oneiric, to support some of its drivers.. what should I install?
[19:20] <jack_> nathan_: thats weird cos my headphone nathan is swtiching my monitor speakers  off! :O
[19:20] <tim167> llutz: ok, I'll do some more digging around the website...
[19:20] <nathan_> jack_ , I haven't been able to do that ever. It always plays on both
[19:21] <cajunmlle> your new machine absolutely needs kernel 3?
[19:21] <prezes_> Yes, I know that but where is solution?
[19:21] <nathan_> and I've been on a macbook from 2005 and two motherboards in my desktop
[19:21] <tim167> llutz: thanks, I found it
[19:21] <basti> can someone kick/ban eva_21, please? it sends a pm when joining the channel with this:  hi sex http://camlive.us.mn/
[19:21] <theos911> Um, hit close chat and ignore eva?
[19:22] <JusticeZero> There was a lot of complaints that it was not running properly in 11.04, and reports that the needed support was added in k3 in 11.10.
[19:22] <jellow> Gdm drops me into xfce and not my prefered window manager ( ratpoison ) ?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> basti: just ype /ignore eva_21
[19:22] <JusticeZero> I do not know that it "absolutely needs it", just that it was reported to have a lot of problems that were addressed by kernal 3.
[19:23] <SilverMonkey> yeah eva is sex spam
[19:23] <craigbass1976> s1, MWAHAHAHA!  I am the RULER of the UNIVERSE!  Just kidding, but I CAN print...
[19:23] <cajunmlle> just curious JusticeZero, what was th particular hw that needed kernel 3?
[19:23] <puff> Any recommendations for ubuntu-friendly printer/scanner/fax gadgets?
[19:23] <yeats> !pm | prezes_
[19:24] <tim167> llutz: ubuntu software center sais the package is "bad quality" do you think it's safe to "ignore and install" ?
[19:24] <JusticeZero> thus, I have an iso for Oneiric, and an ISO for Kubuntu Oneiric, and am deciding what to do.. it's a HP Pavilion DM1 laptop. When I looked online to research it that was what was overwhelmingly stated.
[19:24] <genii-around> puff: Most HP stuff works pretty good.
[19:24] <llutz> tim167: you have to install if you want to use your printer :)
[19:24] <puff> genii-around: Thanks.
[19:24] <quick-> getting error ping : unkown host , i am using  proxy server to connect to net and have enabled system wide proxy . Pls help
[19:24] <howaaa> My Ubuntu 10.04 reactivates effects after rebooting and unselects "None", although System->Preferences->Appearance was set to "None" before. Any way to solve this ???
[19:24] <tim167> llutz: hmm, yea that's what I thought...thanks :)
[19:24] <s1> craigbass1976: :D , glad you can .. well done. :-)
[19:25] <cajunmlle> puff, postscript is a plus, then ghostscript doesn't matter
[19:25] <puff> genii-around: Hm... last I looked, my mom's new windows7 laptop was having problems with one of her printers, I *think* it was an hp that was old enough that hp wasn't planning to offer windows7 support, maybe I should get her a new one and hijack that one.
[19:25] <llutz> tim167: those debs are ugly but working in most cases - hl2250dn on debian64/ubuntu-10.10 here :(
[19:25] <puff> cajunmlle: If I had my druthers, I'druther get an HP with built-in postfix and network server. Hm.
[19:25] <genii-around> puff: Sounds like a plan
[19:26] <RingZer01> I need to monitor what users change what files in a given directory -- is there ubuntu software for this??
[19:26] <tim167> llutz: ok...hope for the best...
[19:26] <RingZer01> I have seen monit, and tripwire, any other suggestions to complete this simple task?
[19:27] <prezes_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/665580
[19:27] <yeats> RingZer01: you might consider restricting the directory's permissions?
[19:27] <rns> how do I copy all files in a directory to the directory above it?
[19:28] <yeats> rns: 'cp -r * ../'
[19:28] <llutz> rns: cp . ..
[19:28] <AG1T> rns:  cp * ../  OK as long as you don't have a directory that match the one your in.
[19:28] <cajunmlle> I'm seeing pages where Pavillon Dm1's ran good on Karmic
[19:29] <RingZer01> yeats: that isn't the issue
[19:29] <yeats> RingZer01: just a suggestion
[19:29] <Renski> I'm logging into a server which onlu has RDP open from my ubuntu box. I can use the option in terminal server client to share my local hard drive, but is there a way to only share one directory?
[19:29] <TheWarden> Hi, I have a situation where I need to uninstall the netcat-openbsd package  and install netcat-traditional package.
[19:29] <TheWarden> However when I try to uninstall netcat-openbsd I'm getting the following message "If you uninstall netcat-openbsd, future updates will not include new items in Minimal Core of Ubuntu set. Are you sure you want to continue?".
[19:29] <mononofu> can anyone tell me how I can set my wallpaper with a cronjob? gsettings doesn't even work directly from a terminal
[19:29] <jellow> RingZer01: you could compare before /after with diff also ls has user/timestamps
[19:29] <RingZer01> yeats: i need exactly what i am asking for, not a dirivitive unfortunatelly it _has_ to be like that :(
[19:29] <TheWarden> This means that I will no longer get updates to the minimal core??
[19:29] <rns> yeats, worked perfectly, thanks
[19:29] <Gskellig> why do I get "permission denied" even when running things with sudo?
[19:29] <yeats> rns: great
[19:30] <RingZer01> jellow: ls user and timestamps huh?
[19:30] <EgyParadox> Gskellig, what commands are you running?
[19:30] <RingZer01> jellow: I was going to script an MD5 checker to send me an email when a file changes
[19:30] <arghx> Gskellig: which things?
[19:30] <RingZer01> jellow: to run on a cron i mean
[19:30] <Gskellig> trying to run a script for vga switcheroo
[19:30] <RingZer01> jellow: but that doesn't tell me what user _modified_ it last
[19:30] <AG1T> Gskellig:  Are you sure you are entering in the right password.  It will give you that error with an wrong password.
[19:30] <RingZer01> jellow: are you telling me there is a way ls can tell me who _modified_ the file last?  (not ls -l )
[19:31] <mmattice> RingZer01: tiger already does that
[19:31] <TheWarden> I just need to clarify that message, as it does concern me that I will not get updates yet I need netcat-traditional
[19:31] <RingZer01> mmattice: what is Tiger?
[19:31] <Gskellig> i'm sure
[19:31] <RingZer01> from googling around i have found: man stat
[19:32] <RingZer01> stat supports --difference too...
[19:32] <dschlittler1> Can someone help me with getting java to work properly in Xubuntu?
[19:32] <Gskellig> i already entered a password for something else awhile ago, and had been running things as su for awhile
[19:32] <cajunmlle> what comand(s) is/are failing?
[19:32] <EgyParadox> dschlittler1, you installed jre?
[19:32] <mmattice> RingZer01: apt-cache show tiger
[19:32] <EgyParadox> the jre*
[19:32] <AG1T> Gskellig:  Your script might also be sending the error message
[19:33] <Gskellig>     echo OFF > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch and      ./test_off.sh
[19:33] <RingZer01> mmattice: only shows mhash.x86_64
[19:33] <Gskellig> the only thing it says is "permission denied" same message as if i run it without sudo
[19:33] <jellow> RingZer01: I don't know off hand sorry.
[19:33] <mmattice> RingZer01: it's in universe
[19:33] <otherSide> ?
[19:33] <RingZer01> jellow: thank you for helping man :)
[19:33] <RingZer01> universe?
[19:33] <cajunmlle> Gskellig, what happens if you actually run it while logged in as root?
[19:34] <Gskellig> actually when I run the ./test_off.sh one as sudo it says "command not found"
[19:34] <arghx> Gskellig: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84882/sudo-echo-something-etc-privilegedfile-doesnt-work-is-there-an-alterna
[19:34] <mmattice> Gskellig: your shebang is hosed
[19:34] <TheWarden> can one safely have netcat-openbsd and netcat-traditional both installed?
[19:34] <Gskellig> my shebang is hosed..?
[19:34] <mmattice> TheWarden: yes.  update-alternatives --config nc
[19:35] <mmattice> Gskellig: head -n 1 ./test_off.sh
[19:35] <mobal> hi
[19:35] <mobal> how can i restore Banshee's Gnome-Shell notify?
[19:36] <TheWarden> mmattice: okay, so I install netcat-traditional and then run that command?
[19:36] <mmattice> TheWarden: sure thing boss
[19:36] <mmattice> if you use something like aptitude, you can see if installing netcat-traditional will make it want to remove -openbsd
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> I am having an issue with gvfs and samba shares, over a VPN connection they are painfully slow.  I can use smbclient, and it is very fast, as well as HTTP transfer via firefox to the same stuff, but anything that is within nautilus and gvfs is about 1/5th normal speed (sync/async issue with samba?)
[19:37] <Gskellig> got permission denied with the sudo su -c
[19:37] <mmattice> SpartanMidday: did you need something?
[19:37] <niranjan> Is it only me, or 11.10 upgrade is giving trouble to others also? Never faced so many problems for previous version. e.g. today morning I lost my launcher completely
[19:37] <phunyguy_work> I know that the samba folks said there would be a fix coming soon, has that made it to canonical yet?
[19:37] <niranjan> Alt tab was not showing any window
[19:38] <niranjan> After slowly minimizing whatever windows that were responding I figured that switching window when alt-tab was hiding behind and never coming on top
[19:38] <TheWarden> mmattice: oh really, wow that is a cool feature I was not aware one could do. Perfect solution for my problem then.
[19:39] <TheWarden> mmattice: oh really, not sure how I would find that out mm.
[19:39] <machand500> hello there...need help with a cronjob....who can i ask for that??? thx
[19:39] <mmattice> TheWarden: ls /etc/alternatives/
[19:39] <Gskellig> i ran ./head -n 1 ./test_off.sh, something happened but still won't work
[19:39] <mmattice> Gskellig: what did that output?
[19:39] <qrq> How change font size in Empathy?
[19:39] <Pici> machand500: Just ask the channel (on one line) and someone will answer you.
[19:39] <Gskellig> no output, just no errors
[19:40] <machand500> thx
[19:40] <Gskellig> actually
[19:40] <Gskellig> #!/bin/bash
[19:40] <mmattice> then your error is that you don't have a shebang.  start the file with #!/bin/bash
[19:40] <vacho> guys I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and I get a blank screen on startup. I remember I had to change something in the settings to fix this issue but cannot remember what. Anyone can help?
[19:40] <phunyguy_work> vacho, nvidia video card?
[19:40] <vacho> yes nvidia!
[19:40] <mmattice> make sure there's not a space after bash
[19:40] <RingZer01> mmattice: okay, i thank you for your help, and I have tiger installed by a bit of reading ...
[19:41] <phunyguy_work> google how to blacklist the driver that comes with ubuntu
[19:41] <TheWarden> mmattice: cool, thanks and thanks for calling me "boss" lol
[19:41] <Gskellig> permission denied still
[19:41] <phunyguy_work> and install nvidia
[19:41] <RingZer01> mmattice: you said it was built into it (ability to check what user modified what file last + last modification timestamp) --- how is this done?
[19:41] <qrq> How change font size in Empathy?
[19:41] <blkperl> how do you configure lightdm to disable the restart/shutdown/hibernate buttons?
[19:41] <tobbe_> I need help installing ubuntu server 11.10. How do I make it show my raid 1 device?
[19:41] <llutz> Gskellig: you cannot use sudo for "echo blafoo > something"
[19:41] <magn3ts> seriously, how. do. I get. rid. of. global. app. menu
[19:42] <RingZer01> qrq: i know nothing about linux, but i am guessing your home directory has an .empathy directory where there is some sort of configuration file...
[19:42] <selix> So i refuse to use the stupid unity interface and find gnome 3 way better for ubuntu, thoughts?
[19:42] <Gskellig> well llutz i'm having the same problem for ./test_off.sh    both softwares should do the same thing, i only need one to work
[19:42] <cajunmlle> selix, tres bien
[19:42] <Gskellig> i tried echo >> something logged in as root as well
[19:42] <selix> ?
[19:42] <cajunmlle> selix, very good
[19:42] <phunyguy_work> blkperl: http://tinyurl.com/4xh9chk
[19:42] <llutz> Gskellig: privilege elevation ends at redirection. "echo OFF | sudo tee -a foo/bar"
[19:42] <oal> Umm, suddenly right click menus appear behind the window I right click in. Anyone know why?
[19:42] <Gskellig> i'll try that
 There is nothing about font size.
[19:43] <vacho> phunyguy_work: hmm ok
[19:43] <blkperl> phunyguy_work: yes i've been doing that nothing comes up
[19:43] <tobbe_> anyone?
[19:43] <Jonny> evening everuyone
[19:43] <JusticeZero> Unity is probably going to be better by 12.04.
[19:43] <phunyguy_work> funny i found several links, blkperl
[19:43] <cajunmlle> unity has no future if other linux distros won;t be adopting it
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> cajunmlle: i love Unity.
[19:44] <blkperl> phunyguy_work: none of the ones i found discuss the shutdown/restart buttons
[19:44] <phunyguy_work> and hate every other distro.
[19:44] <Jonny> I am wondering if anyone knows a fix for this issue, i have flash working in all of my players appart from epiphany does anyone know why that may be?
[19:44] <oal> And boom, the left hand unity menu doesn't show either... Why is everything hidden behind the active window...?
[19:44] <Gskellig> llutz, no errors but it didn't appear to do anything. Probably something wrong with the way I installed it though
[19:44] <Gskellig> thanks
[19:44] <magn3ts> seriously, how. do. I get. rid. of. global. app. menu. please, please someone tell me
[19:44] <vacho> phunyguy_work: help me man :)
[19:44] <JusticeZero> The other distros are competing against other distros. Unity is competing against Windows 8.
[19:44] <cajunmlle> phunyguy_work, still, software that does not expand to become universal tends to fail in time
[19:45] <phunyguy_work> vacho?
[19:45] <Jonny> flash is working on all browsers apart from epiphany
[19:45] <vacho> what do I need to do ?
[19:45] <tobbe_> can anyone help me with my ubuntu server installation?
[19:45] <aeon-ltd> tobbe_: ask your real question
[19:45] <yeats> tobbe_: what's the issue?
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> vacho, unfortunately all I would be doing is googling just like you
[19:46] <tobbe_> The installation does not show my sata raid 1 device
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> i dont remember how to do it, but it is related to nvidia
[19:46] <machand500> wie kann ich eien cronjob für eine php datei definieren
[19:46] <tobbe_> It does not show any hdd at all
[19:46] <yeats> tobbe_: have you asked in #ubuntu-server?
[19:46] <nathan_> Does anyone know how to change the background color in Geany? (I use it to program in C++, but would prefer a darker background)
[19:46] <magn3ts> machand500, crontab, or #ubuntu-de
[19:46] <tobbe_> nope gonna try that thnx
[19:46] <yeats> tobbe_: this channel is mostly desktop support
[19:46] <mononofu> can anyone tell me how I can set my wallpaper with a cronjob? gsettings doesn't even work directly from a terminal
[19:46] <vacho> anyone else had problems with ubuntu 11.10 on nvidia graphic card?
[19:46] <arghx> tobbe_: most likely it's a fakeraid?
[19:46] <Trashi> hi. i try to use nvidia-detector from shell but i allways get "none" as output.  any experience? thanks!
[19:46] <cajunmlle> considering how little hardware windows 7 reliably supports, all a linux distro needs to compete is to work right
[19:46] <Bragex9> After upgradng to 11.10 my monitor is a mess. Everything on the screen is big and everything is acting very slow....
[19:46] <aeon-ltd> !de | machand500
[19:46] <phunyguy_work> nathan_: that is a gtk theme issue - would need to adjust to a custom theme
[19:47] <machand500> thx magn3ts
[19:47] <arghx> vacho: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:47] <tobbe_> yeats: did not know that
[19:47] <tobbe_> arghx: nope think its a real one
[19:47] <vacho> arghx: i dont know how to get to bash
[19:48] <arghx> tobbe_: which one is it?
[19:48] <CantWinn> Any OP's here?
[19:48] <Jonny> does anyone know why flash would not work in epiphany and it does work in firefox and chrome
[19:48] <nathan_> damn, making a custome theme sounds like more work than it'd be worth
[19:48] <DrMax_> is there a way to remap gnome3's "show the activity overview" to something else than left-windows key ?
[19:48] <nathan_> custom*
[19:48] <arghx> vacho: this is not for bash. this is a linux kernel parameter for grub or whatever bootloader you use
[19:48] <phunyguy_work> yes nathan_, unless you can find one online
[19:48] <Jonny> i just like epiphany as a browser and would like to fix it
[19:48] <vacho> ok, where do I add it? how
[19:48] <yotam> Is the package gnome-shell is the real gnome shell?
[19:48] <magn3ts> !java
[19:48] <yeats> yotam: yes
[19:48] <tobbe_> arghx: I dont know. Installed ubuntu 11.04 and that installation showed my raid 1.
[19:48] <yotam> Thank you
[19:49] <vacho> arghx: right now I am at a blank screen. I can't get to command line or anything to start playing around.
[19:49] <phunyguy_work> vacho, press ctrl-alt-f1
[19:49] <phunyguy_work> to get to a command prompt
[19:49] <Gskellig> sudo ./test_off.sh says command not found, but running it as root says permission denied
[19:49] <phunyguy_work> login with your credentials
[19:49] <vacho> phunyguy_work: it doesn't :(
[19:49] <phunyguy_work> fail.
[19:50] <yotam> I upgraded to 11.10 and I'm thinking about using gnome shell instead of Unity
[19:50] <Bragex9> how do I install nvidia drivers from terminal?
[19:50] <phunyguy_work> ctrl-alt-f2?
[19:50] <phunyguy_work> 3, 4 ,5?
[19:50] <qrq> How change font size in Empathy?
[19:50] <tobbe_> arghx: lspci sais ati technologies inc sb7x0/sb8x0/sb9x0
[19:50] <arghx> tobbe_: that is fakeraid.
[19:50] <phunyguy_work> qrq, i dont think you can, its based on gtk theme.
[19:50] <Jonny> yotam, gnome shell is much better that unity :)
[19:50] <arghx> ie. not a real raid. use linux software raid
[19:50] <phunyguy_work> Bragex9: you may have to google that one  ;)
[19:50] <Jonny> at least i think
 -_-
[19:50] <arghx> tobbe_: which installer do you use?
[19:50] <vacho> how do I boot ubuntu in recovery mode?
[19:50] <cajunmlle> I can't think of too many commands that root don't have permission for
[19:51] <phunyguy_work> qrq, there are also chat themes you can import.
[19:51] <yotam> Unity slows
[19:51] <phunyguy_work> google it
[19:51] <magn3ts> seriously, how. do. I get. rid. of. global. app. menu. please, please someone tell me
[19:51] <yeats> Bragex9: try 'sudo jockey-text'
[19:51] <phunyguy_work> .EVERYONE GOOGLE YOUR QUESTIONS FIRST.  lol
[19:51] <tobbe_> arghx: Installer?
[19:51] <arghx> tobbe_: ubuntu installer
[19:51] <yeats> !google
[19:51] <Pici> phunyguy_work: Stop that.
 How?
[19:51] <tobbe_> arghx: Im using usb installation of ubuntu server 11.10 amd64
[19:51] <phunyguy_work> wow, so they dont know how to type a question into google?
[19:51] <cajunmlle> magn3ts, what makes you think you can from the desktop?
[19:51] <phunyguy_work> I'm done here.
[19:52] <Pici> phunyguy_work: fine
[19:52] <phunyguy_work> how do they expect to learn?
[19:52] <tobbe_> arghx: howcome it showed my raid with ubuntu 11.04?
[19:52] <vacho> phunyguy_work: I try google before I ask here.
[19:52] <yotam> even thought I've installed a graphic card driver
[19:52] <nathan_> you could always give them a link to www.lmgtfy.com, but sometimes google doesn't give great results on teh top line
[19:52] <arghx> tobbe_: did you have a raid there beforehand? e.g. windows?
[19:52] <vadi> How can I start an app without the appmenu hijacking it? (because appmenu is causing the app crash)
[19:52] <yotam> Unity has some problems
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: when users get more familiar with the OS they will tend to websearch more. Just humour them for now and it will get better
[19:53] <trism> magn3ts: you just need to uninstall the appmenu packages (indicator-appmenu, appmenu-gtk, appmenu-qt)
[19:53] <rapha> Hi all!
[19:53] <phunyguy_work> I don't think that is fair, ActionParsnip
[19:53] <Zack> i have installed wallpapoz and it screwed up my desktop to where i cant fix it with a restart, the desktop is cutt off like its a smaller screen in a big monitor
[19:53] <phunyguy_work> seems lazy to me
[19:53] <tobbe_> arghx: nope, new installation. had ubuntu 11.04 on the disks before
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: its not but its how it goes. Remember the target audience of Ubuntu
[19:53] <Pici> phunyguy_work: Thats how this channel works. If you don't like it, then you don't need to provide help here. Sorry.
[19:53] <magn3ts> tris2k, thank you so much, I didn't know about the appmenu packages.
[19:53] <magn3ts> I hope this finally works.
[19:53] <phunyguy_work> ActionParsnip: Human Beings
[19:53] <CantWinn> yotam, Are you trying to ask a question?  There are like 100 different suggestions, I wan to go with the right one.
[19:53] <phunyguy_work> it doesnt say "Linux for noobs"
[19:53] <rapha> How would I connect my NAS (Synology DS110) to Ubuntu 11.10? Under Windows it just appears in the Network Neighbourhood, but if I click that under Ubuntu I just get an error message...
[19:54] <Firefishe> I'm looking for a program that can read UDF .iso images, and can edit them
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: new users to Linux and non-techys
[19:54] <magn3ts> yotam, what app is crashing because of the appmenu?
[19:54] <magn3ts> yotam, and why do you think that's whats causing the crash
[19:54] <LjL> wifi issue with Oneiric and my EeePC 901. initially it connects, but after a while it asks for my passkey again and refuses to reconnect.
[19:54] <tris2k> you meant thank trism :p
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: users whom are used to teh Windows cotton wool, when stuff doesnt work they can (and are right to) ask the community for help
[19:54] <Gskellig> sudo ./test_off.sh says command not found, but running it as root says permission denied
[19:54] <kelbek> Hi guys
[19:54] <phunyguy_work> OK I will try to refrain from google comments, but man, its the only way to learn.  break it a little, then fix.
[19:55] <nathan_> hi kelbek
[19:55] <Jonny> can anyone shed any light on this situation? Flash does not seem to be working with epiphany but it does on other browsers
[19:55] <Zack> i have installed wallpapoz and it screwed up my desktop to where i cant fix it with a restart, the desktop is cutt off like its a smaller screen in a big monitor , i need some herlp
[19:55] <Jonny> really want to fix this issue :S
[19:55] <CarlFK> whats the command to list what packages are installed?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: i agree, but sadly that's how it goes here
[19:55] <Pici> CarlFK: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[19:55] <phunyguy_work> is there an "advanced" ubuntu channel?
[19:55] <nathan_> yes phunyguy_work , losing is fun (and educational). However, sometimes it's best to focus your educational losses on things other than your computer
[19:55] <span89> Hi. How do I open Synaptic Package Manager in 11.04?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: #ubuntu-server is one place but users setting up new servers will be there too
[19:56] <cajunmlle> Jonny, maybe it's flash's fault
[19:56] <phunyguy_work> eek...
[19:56] <phunyguy_work> maybe not as many though
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: you are free to spawn your own channel if you wish
[19:56] <phunyguy_work> questions flood off the screen too fast here and everyone asks like 8 times in 2 minutes
[19:56] <kelbek> yesterday, i upgraded my ubuntu to ubuntu 11.10. my laptop has nvidia nvs 140m GraKa and 3GB RAM, but the laptop is very slow with the new ubuntu
[19:56] <yotam> I guess I'll try gnome shell
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> phunyguy_work: just join a channel name, if it doesn't exist, it will be made and you will be op
[19:56] <Firefishe> jonny:  perhaps this will help you: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/books/ubuntu_applications/epiphany
[19:56] <Jonny> cajunmlle, its never cashed in other browsers
[19:57] <phunyguy_work> ActionParsnip: yeah yeah ;)
[19:57] <span89> Hi. How do I open Synaptic Package Manager in 11.04?
[19:57] <Jonny> thanks :)
[19:57] <CarlFK> Pici: thanks
[19:57] <Firefishe> span89: open a terminal and type:  sudo synaptic
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> span89: gksudo synaptic
[19:57] <Firefishe> span89: enter your password, and you're good to go
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: gksudo for gui apps dude
[19:57] <span89> thanks!
[19:57] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: I've always used sudo
[19:57] <scarleo> rapha: try smbmount 192.168.0.X /home/rapha/NAS
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | Firefishe
[19:58] <scarleo> rapha: wher 192.etc.. is your NAS ip
[19:58] <`Yahoo> Anyone? Any clue about Installing Pantheon on 11.10?
[19:59] <span89> For "sudo synaptic", it says "command not found." For "gksudo synaptic", it says " GtK-WARNING **: Unable to locate engine theme in module_patch: "pixmap"," repeatedly.
[19:59] <scarleo> rapha: Or in Nautilus go to file menu then Connect to server... and choose windows share
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> !info pantheon
[19:59] <span89> Firefishe, ActionParsnip: For "sudo synaptic", it says "command not found." For "gksudo synaptic", it says " GtK-WARNING **: Unable to locate engine theme in module_patch: "pixmap"," repeatedly.
[19:59] <Firefishe> span89: do you have synaptic installed?
[19:59] <`Yahoo> ActionParsnip, it's the elementary Pantheon, i think you need a PPA;  I had it on 11.04
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> span89: install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[19:59] <phunyguy_work> so, smart folks, is there anyone in here that can give me a timeframe as to if/when empathy notifications will be fixed?
[20:00] <Firefishe> I yield span89, he knows more than I do about this one.
[20:00] <Zack> i have installed wallpapoz and it screwed up my desktop to where i cant fix it with a restart, the desktop is cutt off like its a smaller screen in a big monitor , i need some herlp
[20:00] <span89> Firefishe: thank you for your help either way
[20:00] <rapha> scarleo: okey, thanks!
[20:00] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the info on gksudo, I really didn't think it made any difference.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> span89: the package solves the warning
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Firefishe: np man, every day is a school day :)
[20:01] <greg3000> guys I'm running KDE with desktop widgets on the latest ver of ubuntu.  I've enabled dual monitors and now I can't see program windows unless I mark them as "Keep above others" in advanced window settings, each time the window loads.  Any ideas what happened to make this necessary?
[20:01] <span89> ActionParsnip: it says: "install: missing destination file operand after  'gtk2-engines-pixbuf'"
[20:01] <vacho> ubuntu shouldn't care to much of upgrades, work on making it stable first
[20:01] <Aikar> is there a recommended apt repo for getting the newer gcc (4.6) on 11.04?
[20:01] <Firefishe> ActionParsnip: bite your tongue, sir!  (I'm at college :P) and am ready to dig me a grave and die! ;)
[20:01] <vacho> stability > fancy stuff.
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> `Yahoo: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/daily
[20:02] <Pici> phunyguy_work: Is there a bug logged for it?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> `Yahoo: even has a precise branch :)
[20:02] <phunyguy_work> Pici, not that I could find that was specific to this issue
[20:02] <eSoul> Sorry to throw the question out but has anyone used webmin with 11.10
[20:02] <phunyguy_work> but there are similar.
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> vacho: that's what LTS are for :)
[20:02] <span89> ActionParsnip: it says: "install: missing destination file operand after  'gtk2-engines-pixbuf'"
[20:03] <Pici> phunyguy_work: You may want to log that bug then.  If its a duplicate then it will get marked as such.
[20:03] <phunyguy_work> one was specific to IRC not showing blue envelope when a targeted message was recieved
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> span89: sudo apt-get install t to log that bug then.  If its a duplicate then it will get
[20:03] <phunyguy_work> but i have it with all protocols
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> span89: sorry
[20:03] <phunyguy_work> thanks pici.
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> span89: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[20:03] <EgyParadox> !ask
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> span89: stupid putty pastespazz earlier :(
[20:04] <span89> all good!
[20:04] <`Yahoo> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[20:04] <eSoul> Thank you ubottu :-P
[20:04] <Rewt`> so, dual monitors, 11.10, the menu bar is on one monitor, and the unity bar on a second... any way to get the manu bar across both?
[20:04] <span89> ActionParsnip: and then what? I just inserted "gksudo synaptic" and nothing happened.
[20:04] <mmattice> RingZer01: I didn't see your who changed it requirement, but it does the other.  ext* doesn't store the id of the last modifier
[20:05] <cajunmlle> mmattice, do any filesystems store the last midfier?
[20:05] <antnash> Hey guys. I'm trying to install ubuntu onto existing lvm partitions. Will it be able to boot if I have everything except /boot on lvm partitions? That's my current set up
[20:05] <niftylettuce> once a patch is being "built" in ubuntu repos, how long does it usually take until its updated in the mirrors?
[20:06] <mmattice> it's not returned by stat, so probably not
[20:06] <EgyParadox> sn0wflake, its not installed by default
[20:06] <cajunmlle> mmattice, that's too bad, it sounds like a good idea
[20:06] <EgyParadox> span89,
[20:06] <EgyParadox> its not installed by default
[20:06] <greg3000> yeah so unless I set the option to "Keep above other" on window options, windows are hidden on my KDE desktop.   Anyone got a clue?
[20:06] <EgyParadox> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> span89: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install syaptic
[20:06] <Jordan_U> antnash: Yes. It will even be able to boot with /boot on LVM.
[20:06] <phunyguy_work> ok next question.  Does anyone know about Samba, and a newer version possibly making it into Ubuntu 11.10? There was supposed to be a new kernel mod that made gvfs/cifs transfers more bearable.
[20:07] <antnash> o.O didn't think it would. Makes no nevermind tho, got a hard partition for that
[20:07] <antnash> Cheers Jordan_U
[20:07] <eSoul> Ive liked samba support for a while, transfers havent been that bad
[20:07] <vacho> guys I have two monitors running on my ubuntu, but for some reason I cant drog from one to the other????
[20:07] <genii-around> !info samba4
[20:07] <span89> EgyParadise, ActionParsnip: THANK YOU! I've got it up now.
[20:08] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: is that the version that would fix it?
[20:08] <jellow>  /join windows
[20:08] <span89> EgyParadise, ActionParsnip: So you know- I didn't have it installed yet. Ha.
[20:08] <span89> EgyParadox***
[20:08] <EgyParadox> span89, yes because synaptic is not installed by default in 11.04 :)
[20:09] <genii-around> phunyguy_work: Haven't tried it yet
[20:09] <varikonniemi> is there some workaround for the software center startup sluggishness short of waiting for the next version? Currently it takes 10 seconds on my quite fast computer?
[20:09] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> is someone here who connected his iPhone 4S to Ubuntu succesfully?
[20:09] <phunyguy_work> might as well.  if i break a new install, oh well.  :)  Thanks, genii-around
[20:09] <genii-around> phunyguy_work: np
[20:10] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: all I see is "SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4)"
[20:10] <phunyguy_work> not really looking for the server, just the gvfs portions
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> span89: why not just use software centre?
[20:10] <genii-around> phunyguy_work: Probably want instead then the smbfs
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> ChrisHuelsemeyer: you can install ifuse and it will appear as a normal USB drive
[20:10] <span89> ActionParsnip: I'm following steps on a forum post to install drivers needed to run my WiFi
[20:10] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: that sounds more accurate
[20:11] <span89> ActionParsnip: and it's telling me to open synaptic to uninstall/install things
[20:11] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> And i have normal access to it, like to an older iPhone?
[20:11] <span89> Be back after reboot!
[20:11] <greg3000> Is unity a worthy upgrade?  I have it on a laptop, considering it on desktop
[20:11] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: maybe not... I wish I know more about how gvfs was integrated with nautilus, and what it is actually using
[20:11] <greg3000> I may upgrade to unity to fix this damn hidden windows issue
[20:11] <phunyguy_work> greg3000: !poll
[20:12] <greg3000> anyone know about hidden windows on kde plasma?
[20:12] <phunyguy_work> lol what is that command
[20:12] <genii-around> phunyguy_work: To browse remote shares you'll need smbfs
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> spacebug-: software centre can install/uninstall things too, no harm in having both I guess
[20:12] <phunyguy_work> !poll greg3000
[20:12] <vacho> I have two monitors, why does my second monitor show up but not function??? when I over over the space I get a X.
[20:12] <greg3000> phunyguy_work: thx
[20:12] <Firefishe> Is it possible to mount a UDF .iso image file to where it can be edited and a file deleted?  After this, does the UDF .iso have to be re-saved?
[20:12] <brontosaurusrex> greg3000, maybe ask in #kubuntu
[20:12] <Zack> can anyone help me with a desktop problem?
[20:12] <varikonniemi> ah, it seems it is already identified and fix pending https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/876210
[20:12] <greg3000> brontosaurusrex: ty
[20:13] <cajunmlle> I'm surprised by how many people here have dual monitors. It'
[20:13] <antnash> Jordan_U, I'm getting file system creation failed when I try to install
[20:13] <`Yahoo> ActionParsnip, One more thing, Elantech touchpad drivers for the Aspire S3?  Googling did me no good.
[20:14] <vacho> someone comon
[20:14] <Jordan_U> antnash: For LVM support you need to use the alternate install CD.
[20:14] <cajunmlle> dual monitor setups aren't all that generally common
[20:14] <antnash> oh
[20:14] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> ActionParsnip: But i have ifuse already installed, but i get an unhandler error (-4)
[20:14] <EgyParadox> !ask | Zack
[20:15] <blsh0p> hey you guys do you know how in ubuntu 11.04, when you plugged in a harddrive it would mount a shortcut to the desktop? How do you get that mack in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:15] <brontosaurusrex> cajunmlle, why not? (i imagine puting some good use to an older monitor, as 2nd monitor would be common?)
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> ChrisHuelsemeyer: thats all I know on iCrap, I don't buy Apple stuff. Could try rhythmnbox or banshee too
[20:16] <scarleo> ChrisHuelsemeyer: Maybe it's not ready for 4S yet, it's a pretty new phone
[20:16] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: I already can, it just transfers very slow.
[20:16] <phunyguy_work> (sorry got interrupted)
[20:16] <cajunmlle> brontosaurusrex, I just mean that not that many people's machines have dual monitors in the first place, but here there are a lot
[20:16] <greg3000> anyone running unity w/ dual monitors (ati perhaps?)
[20:16]  * Zutara is back (gone 07:01:20)
[20:16] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> I think rythmbox and banshee can't do anythin, because the iphone can't be mounted
[20:16] <phunyguy_work> genii-around: the issue I am speaking of is the cifs kernel module using synchronous transfers (or async, cant remember which)
[20:17] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> So i think, i have to wait
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Zutara: please disable that
[20:17] <xangua> ChrisHuelsemeyer: what iOS version¿
[20:17] <phunyguy_work> greg3000: I am on ATI using what came with ubuntu.
[20:17] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> iOS 5
[20:17] <greg3000> k
[20:17] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> (iPhone 4S is only with iOS 5 out=
[20:17] <phunyguy_work> greg3000: works out of the box
[20:17] <cdunlap> bIshOp: I think the gnome-tweak-tool will give you that functionality.  look in the Desktop piece on the left
[20:17] <greg3000> dual monitor?
[20:18] <phunyguy_work> yessir
[20:18] <phunyguy_work> i had to enable it, but yes it works
[20:18] <greg3000> phunyguy_work: cool thanks :)
[20:18] <phunyguy_work> do you need help enabling it?
[20:18] <eggsby> hey buntu dudes, is there a good video editing program? I want to do some stuff for screencasts... avidemux is a bit hard to sync audio and video up with
[20:18] <xangua> ChrisHuelsemeyer: did you enable proposed or backport updates to see if there is a libmobiledevice update¿¿, i heard latest can mount with ios5
[20:19] <Jordan_U> eggsby: Have you tried PiTiVi (which comess with Ubuntu by default)?
[20:19] <dryicebomb> eggsby: tryp openshot or PiTiVi
[20:19] <kristina> Hey, I really need some help. I  had a document open in openoffice writer and the power went out. I restarted my computer and tried to recover the document, but it says "recovery failed". is there any possible way I can recover it?
[20:19] <brontosaurusrex> eggsby, kdenlive maybe
[20:19] <xangua> eggsby: pitivi comes with default in ubuntu. there is also openshot with many plugins
[20:20] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> No, i haven't enabled those updates, but in synaptics isn't an update
[20:20] <eggsby> I haven't, but I definitely will try those
[20:20] <eggsby> thank you all :)
[20:20] <cajunmlle> kristina, if it couild have recovered, it would have. That's a good reason to save your documents often
[20:20] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> Oh, wrong
[20:20] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> There is really an update!
[20:20] <scarleo> kristina: If LibreOffice can't recover it then I believe there is very little chance to recover it
[20:21] <incorrect> is there a package with more gtk3 themes?
[20:21] <meLon> I just upgraded from 10.04->11.10 x64.  GeForce 8800 GTX. I am having issues with my secondary monitor.    If I click the white, it goes away, but I my cursor stays as a big X.  nvidia-settings is set for separate X screens, but it always shows (Restart required).  Any suggestions on how to get my dual monitors set up nice and pretty?
[20:21] <xangua> incorrect: gnome-look.org
[20:22] <incorrect> xangua, package apt-get install lots more themes
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> meLon: did you upgrade to Maverick and Natty first?
[20:22] <ChrisHuelsemeyer> Wow, ok, now my iPhone 4S works! Thanks!
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> !away > sysadamin|away
[20:22] <Guest18082> seems like I have some troubles with ncurses library in ubuntu 11.10. If I try to compile test example, it fails because can find proper symbols, but *-dev packages are installed
[20:22] <meLon> ActionParsnip, Yes.  Everything else is working out.  Just a weird glitchy situation.  I can load programs into that display using DISPLAY variable, but the cursor is weird
[20:22] <grifo74> how i remaster my ubuntu 11.10??? remastersys is of
[20:22] <Guest18082> can someone give a hint what could be wrong?
[20:22] <kristina> scarleo: I haven't tried opening it with libreoffice yet. I'll try that and hopefully it'll recover it. Thanks.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> meLon: uninstall the proprietary driver, then reboot, thenreinstall the driver. May help
[20:23] <juanv> hello
[20:23] <meLon> ActionParsnip, sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*  . Reboot and then install the current driver ?
[20:23] <juanv> hi
[20:23] <scarleo> kristina: you said openoffice tried to recover, LibreOffice is the same thing, thant's what it's called nowadays
[20:24] <juanv> no
[20:24] <juanv> way
[20:24] <phunyguy_work> juanv: did you have a question?
[20:24] <juanv> hey
[20:24] <meLon> What's up juanv ?
[20:24] <juanv> wat up
[20:24] <iceroot> scarleo: libreoffice is a fork of openoffice with new features and bug-fixes
[20:24] <meLon> !ask juanv
[20:24] <iceroot> scarleo: so its not just another name
[20:24] <juanv> hey
[20:24] <juanv> no
[20:25] <scarleo> iceroot: I know, I was just trying to keep things simple
[20:25] <juanv> what room are u in
[20:25] <iceroot> scarleo: ok
[20:25] <phunyguy_work> juanv: who on earth are you talking to
[20:25] <juanv> answer me
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> meLon: I'd use the hardware app to disable the driver, should be ok that way though but it may remove modaliases (if they are still used)
[20:25] <juanv> you where do you liove
[20:25] <phunyguy_work> *sigh*
[20:25] <kristina> scarleo: okay. sorry, new to linux so I'm not too familiar with everything.   I'm always OCD with that kind of stuff, so that's why I'm so upset that I lost it.
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> kristina: look for the document name with $ in front
[20:27] <HorizonXP> hi, i've run into a bug with libsasl2-2 on oneric
[20:28] <juanv> ya that well help
[20:28] <HorizonXP> is there a way to downgrade the library?
[20:28] <juanv> peregrinator_six<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
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[20:28] <juanv> * peregrinator_six (~humano@unaffiliated/peregrinator-six/x-3729336) has joined #ubuntu
 kristina: look for the document name with $ in front
[20:28] <juanv> * parnold<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[20:28] <FloodBot1> juanv: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 hi, i've run into a bug with libsasl2-2 on oneric
[20:28] <scarleo> kristina: you maybe have to show hidden files in Nautilus menu, or press ctrl+h
[20:28] <lol> d
[20:28] <lol> d
[20:28] <lol> dd
[20:28] <lol> d
[20:28] <FloodBot1> lol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <phunyguy_work> children....
[20:28] <electroduck> lol stop trolling
[20:29] <lol> trolling?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> electroduck: it's a child
[20:29] <phunyguy_work> trollolololololololololol :)
[20:29] <killown> When I add a new user it gives me a new default unity interface, I would like to get this default for a old user, how I do that?
[20:29] <lol> frr
[20:29] <lol> r
[20:29] <lol> r
[20:29] <lol> rr
[20:29] <lol> r
[20:29] <FloodBot1> lol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <kristina> scarleo: I found it as ".~lock.irish renaissance paper.doc#", but when I try opening it with openoffice, gedit, or abiword, it comes up with a blank page
[20:29] <iceroot> !ops | lol
[20:29] <dweez> killown, have you tried selecting "Unity" when you log in with that user?
[20:30] <dweez> just kb him and get it over with
[20:30] <phunyguy_work> killown: back up the current .config and .gconf folders in the home directory
[20:30] <phunyguy_work> and rename them
[20:30] <phunyguy_work> then have the user log in again, and that should recreate the default setup.
[20:30] <killown> dweez, yes, it already selected, but there is some customizations for this specific user that I'd like to remove
[20:30] <HorizonXP> how can I downgrade libsasl2-2 on Oneiric?
[20:30] <killown> phunyguy_work, ok
[20:31] <blawiz> how do i change the app that controls the desktop? now nautilus controls it and i get nautilus menues, i want thunar to do it
[20:31] <kristina> scarleo: I just went to properties on the hidden file and it says "0 bytes", so I doubt that's going to work :/
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> !downgrade| HorizonXP
[20:31] <phunyguy_work> if that doesnt work, there are probably more locations that need to be renamed / backed up
[20:31] <HorizonXP> MonkeyDust: there's a bug/conflict with the most recent library and subversion
[20:31] <kristina> scarleo: It's just weird because I had saved it multiple times before so I'm wondering why it would be completely lost...
[20:31] <HorizonXP> MonkeyDust: I'd like to downgrade for now until it is fixed
[20:32] <phunyguy_work> kristina: there may possibly be a community support channel for LibreOffice, and they may be able to help you more
[20:32] <cajunmlle> kristina, were you saving the file just as the power went out?
[20:32] <scarleo> kristina: that's really bad luck, never heard of a document that is damaged like that
[20:33] <phunyguy_work> kristina: maybe there is actual filesystem corruption?  I would try a fsck on the volume.
[20:33] <cajunmlle> if she was saving the file as it lost power, it could be gone forever
[20:33] <kristina> cajunmlle: No, but it autosaves sometimes, so I'm thinking maybe that's what happened.
[20:33] <phunyguy_work> can anyone help kristina with the fsck command syntax?
[20:34] <kristina> phunguy_work: yes please
[20:34] <cajunmlle> fsck should have started automatically on the next reboot
[20:34] <phunyguy_work> ahh cajunmlle, is that so?
[20:34] <phunyguy_work> never had a PC do a fsck after a hard reset like that
[20:34] <cajunmlle> that's what happened the times I've lost power
[20:34] <adminewb> usually you don't run fsck on mounted live file systems
[20:34] <phunyguy_work> only after a certain amount of days, etc.
[20:35] <adminewb> as in, from the command line manually
[20:35] <phunyguy_work> adminewb: you can, though I thoguht if you are just checking, not repairing
[20:35] <Myrtti> remember you can force fsck to be ran at next reboot by making a file called forcefsck in the mountpoint of the filesystem
[20:35] <phunyguy_work> which is what I am trying to get her to do
[20:35] <phunyguy_work> Myrtti, thanks
[20:35] <Myrtti> for example with "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[20:35] <phunyguy_work> was just typing that Myrtti ;)
[20:36] <cajunmlle> when I get a crash, it always notices the improper shutdown at the next reboot
[20:36] <kristina> wait, someone told me to try magicrescue. Let me see if that works first.
[20:36] <Bragex9> Why am I unable to start programs from terminal? I try to edit xorg.conf, but when I run sudo gedit xorg.conf I get an error message saying: can not open screen
[20:37] <phunyguy_work> Bragex9: are you ssh'd in?
[20:37] <leon24xxx> hi everyone
[20:37] <guntbert> Bragex9: you cannot start a graphical app when there is no XWindow running
[20:37] <phunyguy_work> ahh Bragex9, use nano.
[20:37] <CharminTheMoose> Can anyone recommend me a no nonsense, lightweight run application gui application?
[20:38] <cajunmlle> then again, my boot partition is xfs
[20:38] <phunyguy_work> cajunmlle: that could be part of it
[20:38] <phunyguy_work> CharminTheMoose: xterminal?  :P
[20:38] <xangua> CharminTheMoose: a launcher¿ i use synapse :)
[20:38] <Bragex9> phunyguy_work: how to use nano, and how do I get xwindow up running..? This is too technical for me I am afraid
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> CharminTheMoose: press ALT+F2 and one will load
[20:39] <phunyguy_work> Bragex9: the command would be the same but replace gedit with nano
[20:39] <phunyguy_work> then to exit it is ctrl-x and then y to save
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> !info gmrun
[20:39] <phunyguy_work> if you dont have nano installed, install it with sudo apt-get install nano
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> CharminTheMoose: http://www.khattam.info/howto-enable-altf2-in-ubuntu-natty-11-04-narwhal-alpha-1-2010-12-04.html
[20:40] <f4k3z> Hi, i need help changing permissions of a mounter NTFS partition, i tried a lot of methods, but nothing works, and only says read only filesystem... :( can you help me?
[20:40] <eSoul> I may have missed the answer earlier when I was akf, but wanted to ask again -- anyone try webmin with 11.10 yet?
[20:40] <cajunmlle> use ntfs-3g
[20:40] <f4k3z> is that a program?
[20:40] <iceroot> !webmin | eSoul
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> f4k3z: watch your mount options and you can set access then
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> eSoul: webmin is not azdviced
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | eSoul
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: was faster :)
[20:41] <XDS20010> hi
[20:41] <iceroot> !ebox | eSoul
[20:41] <XDS20010> anyone here use Lirc in ubu ?
[20:41] <eSoul> I understand, I thought that maybe 10.04 was the last supported release possibly, but I understand
[20:41] <XDS20010> or has used it*
[20:41] <cajunmlle> mount it w/ -t ntfs-3g instead of -t ntfs
[20:41] <`Yahoo> Anyone know where I could find Elantech Touchpad drivers that will work with my Aspire S3?
[20:41] <iceroot> !anyone | XDS20010
[20:41] <daviddoria> in 11.04, when I set my interface to "gnome" on the login screen, it seemed to save that setting. However, now in 11.10, when I change it it works for that session, but when I restart it defaults back to the default. Is there a way to save this setting?
[20:41] <phunyguy_work> !poll | XDS20010
[20:41] <JZApples> Anyone have any ideas on how to resolve the icon issue with the files and folders during a Unity search in 11.04 shown here?     http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/simek.png/
[20:42] <phunyguy_work> sorry
[20:42] <XDS20010> what the hell
[20:42] <leon24xxx> just a quick question, did anyone has a simple solution to run tp-link tl-wn851n wifi on ubuntu 11.10 ? as i already tried couple solutions from varios websites, but the only result is that wifi card is kind of probing network , getting ip from dhcp and thats pretty much it. tried ath5k and ath9k drivers. Just mention that it was absolutely fine on previous dist. any help?
[20:42] <phunyguy_work> !ask | XDS20010
[20:42] <XDS20010> phunyguy not funny
[20:42] <JZApples> !patience
[20:43] <eSoul> lol, i feel like a turd for not reading all the guidelines/info/etc etc
[20:43] <guntbert> XDS20010: nobody tries to  be funny, please take the advice seriously
[20:43] <XDS20010> ok at the risk of sounding a little rude, you guys just took up like 50 lines just trying to answer my question
[20:43] <phunyguy_work> !turd | eSoul
[20:43] <phunyguy_work> :P
[20:43] <eSoul> :-D
[20:43] <rypervenche> XDS20010: You should probably rephrase your question, or you will be pwned by ubottu :P
[20:43] <mari00> hi all, is it possible to use iptables to forward certain domain/server names to different ports?
[20:44] <cajunmlle> iptables works mostly with addresses, not ports
[20:44] <iceroot> cajunmlle: what?
[20:44] <Jimthree> hi ubuntu Gurus!  I'm trying to install 32bit 11.10 UEC on a bunch of old laptops I have. I've d/l'd the 11.10 server 32bit, but I don't see the option to "Install Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud" on the install disk boot menu.  what am I missing?
[20:44] <phunyguy_work> mari00: might be beyond the scope of this channel
[20:44] <XDS20010> I thought my question was pretty clear but ill try this again, has anyone here used Lirc in Ubuntu ?
[20:44] <cajunmlle> sorry, I meant to say not names
[20:44] <iceroot> cajunmlle: are firewall not working with ports?
[20:45] <span89> For the past 4 days,  I have been trying to get my wireless working. I've followed countless forum posts and tried a ton of things, but to no avail. Can someone help me, seriously? Spent so much time trying to set up Ubuntu....
[20:45] <iceroot> cajunmlle: ok
[20:45] <leon24xxx> just a quick question, did anyone has a simple solution to run tp-link tl-wn851n wifi on ubuntu 11.10 ? as i already tried couple solutions from varios websites, but the only result is that wifi card is kind of probing network , getting ip from dhcp and thats pretty much it. tried ath5k and ath9k drivers. Just mention that it was absolutely fine on previous dist. any help?
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> !ask | XDS20010:
[20:45] <`Yahoo> span89, what computer?
[20:45] <XDS20010> span89 whats the problem ?
[20:45] <phunyguy_work> :)
[20:45] <cajunmlle> mari00, you can use your "hosts" file to divert particular dns names
[20:45] <rypervenche> XDS20010: You're still asking the wrong question. Why do you need/want to know?
[20:45] <iceroot> XDS20010: i thought the trigger !anyone was pretty clear
[20:45] <guntbert> XDS20010: that is no ubuntu support question, please state your problem
[20:45] <iceroot> !anyone | XDS20010
[20:45] <mari00> i'm using iptables to forward all incoming requests on 80 to 8080 (for tomcat), but i would like a particular incomign domain to be picked up by an apache server on 80.
[20:45] <span89> `Yahoo: Dell Latitude D610
[20:46] <mari00> cajunmlle: how exactly? -- i mean with the hosts file?
[20:46] <XDS20010> im just curious how many people use Lirc on ubuntu , whats the problem with asking that ?
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> !poll | XDS20010
[20:46] <iceroot> XDS20010: should everyone answer yes or no?
[20:46] <iceroot> phunyguy_work: stop it please
[20:46] <span89> XDS20010: I'm trying to get my wireless on my laptop up and running. And I've tried at least 4-5 things on Google + Ubuntu forums.
[20:46] <cajunmlle> in the hosts file, you can define a particular name like "www.ubuntu.org" to equal a particular address
[20:46] <phunyguy_work> :)
[20:46] <eSoul> Not to step out of bounds, but this is a support channel, not a polling place
[20:46] <iceroot> XDS20010: is your answered question if someone say yes or no?
[20:47] <iceroot> question answered...
[20:47] <phunyguy_work> sorry... foudn a new toy  =D
[20:47] <phunyguy_work> found*
[20:47] <`Yahoo> span89, http://michaeleberhart.net/linux/ubuntu/8_04/  <----Try looking there.
[20:47] <mari00> cajunmlle: i've done taht before on my laptop for local addresses.  so i'd just put a line like paracadute.net then like what exactly, the same ip with the port specified?
[20:47] <rypervenche> XDS20010: Most people I know either use xChat or a command line IRC client like irssi or weechat.
[20:48] <XDS20010> iceroot: not necessarily , its basically a open ended question, Im not trying to be so anal that i needed a cavalier of answers, just a general idea of the programs popularity
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[20:48] <leon24xxx> just a quick question, did anyone has a simple solution to run tp-link tl-wn851n wifi on ubuntu 11.10 ? as i already tried couple solutions from various websites, but the only result is that wifi card is kind of probing network , getting ip from dhcp and that's pretty much it. tried ath5k and ath9k drivers. Just mention that it was absolutely fine on previous dist. any help?
[20:48] <ambuj> hey i have recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 from 11.04
[20:48] <cajunmlle> mari00, I don't think you can specify the port in the hosts file, but you can give it an address that iptables will divert into a different port
[20:48] <guntbert> XDS20010: this isn't a channel for polls and open ended question
[20:48] <phunyguy_work> ambuj: no way
[20:48] <iceroot> XDS20010: there is the apt-get status-database only where you can see what package is how often installed
[20:48] <span89> `Yahoo: That site tells me to try to use the NdisWrapper. I already have. Guess I can always try again.... again.
[20:48] <Bragex9> phunyguy_work: nano works but I have no idea about how to create a proper xorg.conf file with a proper modeline for my monitor....
[20:49] <ambuj> phunyguy_work what?
[20:49] <iceroot> XDS20010: its somewhere on the ubuntu-sites
[20:49] <phunyguy_work> Bragex9: sorry, weak spot for me.
[20:49] <sedulous> (oneiric, unity) - is it possible to reduce or disable the timeout in the shutdown dialog? i want my system to shutdown immediately when i press the power button
[20:49] <XDS20010> iceroot:  got a link ?
[20:49] <iceroot> XDS20010: only google, sorry
[20:49] <scarleo> ambuj: did all go well? You have a support question?
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> iceroot: which apt-get is that?
[20:49] <bobweaver> !purelxde
[20:49] <eSoul> leon24xxx -- What else are you needing for network configuration, once you can see the SSID of the network, get an IP address/gateway/dns server from dhcp, you should be online
[20:50] <eSoul> is the connection dropping out all of the sudden
[20:50] <Jimthree> has anyone here deployed a private cloud with 11.10?
[20:50] <ambuj> scarleo ya all  goes well but i have got one irritating problem
[20:50] <f4k3z> i, i need help changing permissions of a mounter NTFS partition, i tried a lot of methods, but nothing works, and only says read only filesystem... :( can you help me?
[20:50] <ambuj> scarleo actually i am using laptop
[20:50] <iceroot> MonkeyDust:  XDS20010 http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[20:50] <phunyguy_work> f4k3z: I thought your question was answered
[20:50] <f4k3z> where? :(
[20:50] <iceroot> !anyone | Jimthree
[20:50] <scarleo> ambuj: please don't say half of it all the time, say what your problem is
[20:50] <f4k3z> didnt see
[20:50] <eSoul> It was lost up above, but I remember seeing it f4k3z
[20:51] <f4k3z> something about ntfs-3g
[20:51] <phunyguy_work> f4k3z: you did see and asked what ntfs-3g was.
[20:51] <Jimthree> I'm trying to install 32bit 11.10 UEC on a bunch of old laptops I have. I've d/l'd the 11.10 server 32bit, but I don't see the option to "Install Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud" on the install disk boot menu.  what am I missing?
[20:51] <cajunmlle> mari00, for example you could have "www.ubuntu.org" equal <IP_ADDRESS> and then divert <IP_ADDRESS> to port 8080
[20:51] <eSoul> indeed
[20:51] <PineappleClock> I can't seem to install gproftpd - it says E: Unable to locate package gproftpd
[20:51] <ambuj> scarleo whenever i click on button to stop touchpad than black dialogue box appears on top right position
[20:51] <leon24xxx> eSoul. it can see networks, but after connecting to patricular one there's still no internet connection. on system monitor ii can see it only kind of probe the network with few bytes of data every sec. thats it.
[20:51] <iceroot> PineappleClock: its called "proftpd"
[20:51] <phunyguy_work> so there is a new question coming soon, f4k3z ?
[20:51] <ambuj> scarleo and that dialogue boz contain absolutely nothing
[20:51] <mari00> cajunmlle: ok i see.  what would the iptable rule be like?
[20:51] <PineappleClock> iceroot I need the GUI for configuring it
[20:51] <f4k3z> maybe, i just installed ntfs-3g, but dont know what to do with it
[20:52] <Jimthree> !anyone
[20:52] <iceroot> PineappleClock: gadmin-proftpd
[20:52] <phunyguy_work> f4k3z: I am fairly certain that now if you mount the disk it should be correct.
[20:52] <scarleo> ambuj: no idea what that might be, sorry
[20:52] <f4k3z> really? let me try
[20:52] <phunyguy_work> not entirely sure though.  ntfs systems always worked for me
[20:52] <cajunmlle> mari000, iptables confuses me
[20:52] <PineappleClock> iceroot: thanks
[20:52] <eSoul> mmm, leon24xxx, can you see your ip adress with ifconfig in Terminal
[20:52] <juanv> gkh
[20:52] <dryicebomb> mari10: you can use a url for an argument to source, for example iptables -I INPUT -s www.ubuntu.com -j ACCEPT
[20:52] <span89> `Yahoo: Trying to install NdisWrapper now. A step in the installation says to login as root. How do I do that?
[20:52] <iceroot> PineappleClock: you can search for packages containing "proftpd" with "apt-cache search proftpd" which will show gadmin-proftpd
[20:53] <eSoul> span89 -- sudo -s
[20:53] <span89> eSoul: Thanks
[20:53] <lilleman> My compiz just stopped working, after a reboot. I run AIGLX on Intel and 10.04 LTS Desktop. Help? :)
[20:53] <eSoul> or proceed every command with sudo
[20:53] <leon24xxx> eSoul. yep
[20:53] <ambuj> scarleo in ubuntu 11.04 touchpad symbol comes in that dialogue box
[20:53] <LuckySMack> in my ssh ./config file, is there a line after HostName I can put in there to start at a given path?
[20:53] <iceroot> eSoul: sudo -s is wrong, its sudo -i
[20:53] <phunyguy_work> doh, time to go home, sorry f4k3z - see you on the flipside.
[20:53] <iceroot> span89: please dont use a root-shell, use sudo command  if you need root-access
[20:53] <iceroot> !sudo | span89
[20:53] <span89> alright
[20:53] <logicslayer> Anybody noticing an extremely long boot time with 11.10? I just did a fresh install on my netbook and it takes 3.5 minutes to load to the logon screen. During the wait, you are staring at a blank purple screen.
[20:54] <eSoul> iceroot, it does drop you to a # prompt instead of $
[20:54] <scarleo> ambuj: Ok, well never tried disable my touchpad so I don't know
[20:54] <eSoul> if you use -s
[20:54] <iceroot> logicslayer: you can press "esc" at the screen to see what is going on, that makes it easier to identify the problem
[20:54] <eSoul> but I know that using root console is not advised
[20:55] <logicslayer> Cool. Will do.
[20:55] <jvm_> hi. my notebook webcam works in both cheese and mplayer flawlessly, but in mplayer the picture is a lot darker. what is the reason, and how can i influence it? thanks a lot for hints.
[20:55] <leon24xxx> what i will do now is reinstall ubutu to get it "factory settings" and then i can provide all info from terminal. maybe then we eSoul. could find solution... what you think about it?
[20:55] <iceroot> eSoul: if i am correct, sudo -s is the same as "sudo sudo" or "sudo su" and its setting the env not correctly
[20:55] <ambuj> scarleo ok actually i have got button on top of touchpad so i use it!
[20:55] <eSoul> maybe, but I cant stick around the channel long
[20:55] <lilleman> eSoul: # prompt means cshell and not bash... most of the times at least :)
[20:55] <diego_> I have an example programm in opengl. It worked with kubuntu 11.04, but now with 11.10 it doesnt work! Why?
[20:55] <eSoul> iceroot, Ahh, I see your point
[20:55] <scarleo> ambuj: great!
[20:56] <eSoul> whoami gives me root, lilleman
[20:56] <lilleman> eSoul: Then you have root previleges
[20:56] <diego_> thats my code http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/201110191447481280x800s.png/
[20:56] <ambuj> scarleo what great now that black box irritating me!!!
[20:56] <span89> blah
[20:56] <diego_> thats my makefile http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/201110191447571280x800s.png/
[20:56] <eSoul> i know, I was just seeing what sudo -s would give you a root shell, but sudo -i is the prefered method,
[20:56] <span89> Can someone help me get my wireless up and running? I've been trolling this channel and the internets for days with no sufficient help.
[20:56] <diego_> that the "output" http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/201110191448141280x800s.png/
[20:57] <eSoul> its no problem, I was just conversating, lol
[20:57] <f4k3z> phunyguy_work: Man that worked, thanks very much!
[20:57] <lilleman> eSoul: Hehe, sorry. I am tired (and a bit irritated at my OpenGL that just died for no apparent reason)
[20:57] <cnatali> anyone know how to determine which device (i.e. /dev/sda) my usb stick is associated with?
[20:57] <scarleo> ambuj: there is no use to run this by me, I have no idea about your problem and I actually have a little hard understanding what you're saying.
[20:58] <ambuj> scarleo leave it!! thanks anyway
[20:58] <lilleman> cnatali: Check in System->Administration->Disk Utility
[20:58] <supajerm> cnatali: sudo fdisk -l
[20:58] <iceroot> cnatali: df, sudo fdisk -l
[20:58] <cajunmlle> cnatali, try "dmesg | tail"
[20:59] <eSoul> lilleman:  Personal project?  And no worries, its just text, feeling and the way things are said are not carried by pure text, I dont get all upset very easily anyway when it comes to talking to people
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> cnatali: mount
[20:59] <Jimthree> The option to install "ubuntu enterprise cloud" seems to fallen off the 11.10 server edition. anyone seen it lying around? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=bootscreen.png
[20:59] <lilleman> eSoul: :) No special project, just my work-laptop that all desktop effects (compiz) just stopped working. :/
[21:00] <cajunmlle> bah, cloud computing is a fad
[21:00] <eSoul> Jimthree, ive not messed with any of the 11.10 discs yet, but maybe you are using the 11.10 alt, and not 11.10 server?
[21:00] <Jimthree> no it's def. the 32bit server edition
[21:00] <eSoul> ahh, I hear you lilleman, that would be very aggrivating
[21:01] <eSoul> then maybe its only on 64-bit?
[21:01] <eSoul> Im just guessing though
[21:01] <Duelisti> How do you set the launcher to "always show" on 11.10, unity 3D
[21:01] <eSoul> in reality it wouldnt matter
[21:01] <eSoul> but it just may have been an oversight
[21:01] <wulf`> how to change the location of launcher bar?
[21:01] <guntbert> !enter > eSoul
[21:01] <scarleo> Duelisti: You can do that in ccsm -> Unity plugin
[21:01] <supajerm> Guayadeque Music player used to work with my G15 keyboard (forward, stop, back) till i upgraded to 11.1.  Anyone familiar with this?
[21:02] <Duelisti> thanks
[21:02] <Jimthree> yea I hope it's not 64bit only, but I guess thats the case
[21:02] <eSoul> gah, sorry, force of habit with IM chatting.
[21:02] <jndlsnl> hi anyone know how to install weblogic?
[21:02] <cajunmlle> hey, let's all give away our cpu time + extra memory + security to anonymous strangers
[21:03] <guntbert> !ot | cajunmlle
[21:03] <diego_> anyone knows glut library?
[21:03] <diego_> glut.h?
[21:03] <leon24xxx> eSoul. reinstalling ubuntu would take me about 30 mins. will you be online at that time?
[21:04] <blsh0p> you guys know how in ubuntu 11.04, whenever you plugged in a flashdrive or harddrive, an icon appeared in the desktop? How do you get that back in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:06] <guntbert> jndlsnl: does http://www.techienote.com/2011/06/how-to-install-weblogic-on-ubuntu.html  help?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> blsh0p: it should add an icon to the unity bar (assuming you use unity)
[21:07] <eSoul> Probably not, I am going to have to get going before then
[21:07] <eSoul> if you have kernel support out of the box for your device, I would think it would just work though.  There seems to be some helpful people here
[21:08] <leon24xxx> ok. i will try reinstall it anyway so i can get proper infos from terminal. maybe someone will be able to help me then. see you later guys.
[21:09] <preetam> my webcam hangs in ubuntu 11.10
[21:09] <scarleo> Has anyone successfully removed all U3 crap from a usb stick in Ubuntu?
[21:10] <supajerm> scarleo: formatting it should work..
[21:10] <scarleo> supajerm: it doesn't, tried that many times
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: what is 'u3'?
[21:11] <supajerm> u3 is basically what PortableApps is to usb drives
[21:11] <eSoul> you can use the u3 tool from sandisk I believe, but you need Windows
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> preetam: does it work in cheese?
[21:11] <scarleo> ActionParsnip: It something SanDisk puts on usb sticks so you can have protable apps
[21:11] <supajerm> san disk i believe version of it
[21:11] <scarleo> it's extremely annoying
[21:11] <preetam> ActionParsnip: it works in cheese but hangs after 10-15 seconds
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: try using dd to write from o to n, should kill it good
[21:12] <scarleo> ActionParsnip: I have done that many times, doesn't help
[21:12] <MeanEYE> Am having a weird behavior when mounting samba shares using cifs. My fstab looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/713367/ but when I mount all of them, /media/software gets weird permissions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/713620/ there are the permissions after mounting all of them. Anyone knows why this is happening?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> preetam: if you run:  lsusb   you can use the 8 character hex ID to find guides and / or bugs
[21:12] <supajerm> scarleo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/removal-of-u3-crap-from-usb-flash-how-410539/
[21:12] <Jordan_U> scarleo: There is nothing that software can put on a flash drive that dd won't remove.
thanks.
[21:13] <[twisti]> hi, im trying to add a chroot'ed sftp thingy by following the advice of various websites to put something like this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:13] <[twisti]> Match group sftpjail ChrootDirectory /home/specialjailhome ForceCommand internal-sftp
[21:13] <eSoul> ActionParsnip -- the way u3 works is emulating a cd drive on the usb drive as well along with the flash memory on another device -- dmesg will show you the addition of a new cd-rom device and a usb mass storage device
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> scarleo: could jam a magnet next to it as a last resort. I have ressurrected USB flash storage devices using a magnet.
[21:13] <[twisti]> however, when i do that, ALL my ssh stuff breaks
[21:13] <[twisti]> even basic login
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> eSoul: that's pretty weird. not heard of it myself. Seems clunky
[21:13] <supajerm> (hahaha thumbs^ ActionParsnip)
[21:13] <scarleo> Jordan_U: Well U3 remains ater dd :) It's like it's on it's own partition, yet not
[21:13] <[twisti]> no error message in any of the logs other than the pointless
[21:13] <[twisti]> Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal init: ssh main process (22599) terminated with status 255
[21:13] <[twisti]> Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal init: ssh respawning too fast, stopped
[21:13] <[twisti]> any idea ?
[21:14] <FloodBot1> [twisti]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <scarleo> must be some hardware thing they have added
[21:14] <eSoul> It really is, actually, ActionParsnip, thats why people want to get rid of it
[21:14] <preetam> ActionParsnip: lsusb does not shows the attached kodak webcam
[21:14] <MeanEYE> Am having a weird behavior when mounting samba shares using cifs. My fstab looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/713367/ but when I mount all of them, /media/software gets weird permissions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/713620/ there are the permissions after mounting all of them. Anyone knows why this is happening?
[21:14] <supajerm> scarleo: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/removal-of-u3-crap-from-usb-flash-how-410539/  --> stated gparted helped him get it off i belive
[21:14] <eSoul> you can use the link I said earlier scarleo to remove the u3 stuff
[21:14] <[twisti]> is this just some weird bug ?
[21:14] <eSoul> err, I didnt say it, supajerm did
[21:14] <Jordan_U> scarleo: I didn't realise you were talking about somthing in hardware rather than something added by software. It appears that the device presents itself as if it were two USB devices, on of which is a CDROM drive.
[21:14] <[twisti]> the google results to the error message or less than helpful, obviously
[21:16] <eSoul> Jordan_U, it is all software, maybe with a bit of hardware magic, but its just a emulated device that can be removed with software made by sandisk/u3
[21:16] <Jordan_U> scarleo: No standard tool is going to change that. You'd need to use somthing that specifically modifies that firmware, if that's even possible with your device.
[21:17] <zenguy_vm> is there an app to read aloud(text-to-speech) for .epub or.pdf?
[21:17] <zenguy_vm> I would install wine if I had to
[21:17] <scarleo> Jordan_U: eSoul supajerm Thanks, I'll look at your tips
[21:18] <[twisti]> so nobody has any idea of how to even get a valid error message out of sshd ?
[21:18] <dryicebomb> scarleo: there is a removal tool offered by sandisk, but you'll need a windows box to run it. I'm not sure if the tool runs in wine, http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
[21:19] <scarleo> dryicebomb: problem would be USB->wine in that case, I've seen that tool
[21:19] <eSoul> back when u3 first came around, you could actually use it to make a "virus/hacker stick", by replacing the cd-rom that is in the emulated cd rom drive
[21:20] <[twisti]> can anyone even read me ?
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> !ask| [twisti]
[21:20] <[twisti]> MonkeyDust: ill take that as a "no" then
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: I see your text, yes
[21:21] <eSoul> i saw your question earlier, but had no input or help, [twisti]
[21:21] <[twisti]> thanks, thats something at least
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: I'm connected via ssh now (from work)
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> preetam: use the hex ID to find guides
[21:21] <scarleo> supajerm: problem with gparted method is file system is read only so it won't format it
[21:21] <orated> Hello! For Java installation, adding archives from Canonical is required as far as I know. Even after enabling softwares from Canonical partners in Software sources, I cannot install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin nor sun-java6-fonts. Can anyone help me in this regard?
[21:22] <NICKY> OK
[21:22] <Confoozled> My ubuntu quit working....just pops up with some Linux info when I boot my computer
[21:22] <NICKY> FRENCH ?
[21:22] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: thats, uh, nice for you. not really sure why you told me though :p
[21:22] <Breathoffire> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and it's not recognizing my flash drive at all, anyone know how i can fix this?
[21:22] <supajerm> scarleo: Ha, figures... scroll up dryicebomb linked you an alternative (windows tho)
[21:22] <Confoozled> anybody feel like helping this idiot?
[21:22] <NICKY> YA TIL DES FRANCAIS ICI
[21:22] <[twisti]> im not saying ssh stopped working on every machine in the world when i put that line in :p
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> !fr| NICKY
[21:22] <span89> Can ANYONE in this channel help me get my wireless working? I have been trying for DAYS and tried NUMEROUS posts and suggestions in the forums to NO AVAIL.
[21:23] <[twisti]> Confoozled: you will find that "some linux info" is about as helpful as "somewhere in new york" when trying to tell someone where to meet
[21:23] <eSoul> span89, what is your device/chipset?
[21:23] <zenguy_vm>  is there an app to read aloud(text-to-speech) for .epub or.pdf for linux?
[21:23] <Confoozled> well
[21:23] <span89> eSoul: Broadcom BCM4306
[21:23] <Confoozled> I didnt write down what it said
[21:23] <Confoozled> like copyright info
[21:23] <kristina> is there anyway that I can recover a file after a power outage corrupts the file?
[21:24] <[twisti]> then the only advice anyone can give you is: reboot, then write it down, then come back and tell us
[21:24] <supajerm> MeanEYE: http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml might help you out with your result settings to understand some.  I'm not familiar too much with cifs to know exactly, but i can see that you set rw, then you set permissions again on the user and group.
[21:24] <Confoozled> ok
[21:24] <eSoul> gah, broadcom is deff bad about making linux compatible devices, you are trying to ndis-wrapper I think I saw
[21:24] <span89> eSoul: Tried installing bcm43 firmware cutter, the legacy installer, AND tried to install drivers using ndiswrapper.
[21:24] <Confoozled> takes a long time booting the trial version from the CD
[21:24] <Confoozled> be back
[21:24] <eSoul> gah, that sounds like a lot of methods, why exactly wont work?  can you use iwconfig and see your device?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> [twisti]: well when i log in I get a message from sshd, don't I..?
[21:25] <span89> no wireless extensions for lo or eth0
[21:25] <[twisti]> ActionParsnip: maybe, i dont know. do you ?
[21:25] <wildbat> free solar
[21:25] <dryicebomb> kristina: depends on how much trouble you want to go through, check out this link on data recovery https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[21:25] <MeanEYE> supajerm: Did that, point is. All 4 directories have same permissions and user/group set. Entries in fstab are the same as well and shares are on external hard disk with LAN so they are made the same way as well and only one is give these weird permissions.
[21:25] <wildbat> opos sorry wrong window
[21:25] <[twisti]> i dont, i just get the regular login
[21:25] <Duelisti> If I change the reveal mode of the launcher (11.10) to somewhere else but left, why doesn't it work? How do I get it working?
[21:25] <templet> how is computer security on 10.04 LTS compared to something say, ubuntu natty ?
[21:25] <eSoul> and you have ethernet device that is eth0 then, mmm, your driver/kernel module sounds like it isnt loading
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> [twisti]: having a nice conversation here? please repeat your initial question, in one line
[21:26] <span89> sounds about right
[21:26] <[twisti]> MonkeyDust: irc doesnt allow lines that long
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> templet: pretty much the same afaik
[21:26] <Breathoffire> Hey, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and it's not recognizing my flash drive AT ALL. Anyone know how i can fix this problem?
[21:26] <droidDev32> how do you set up the back light on a macbook pro 7,1? There are no additional drivers showing up
[21:26] <uofm49426> anyone ever use  x11vnc server or Krfb
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> [twisti]: try using pastebin
[21:27] <[twisti]> hi, im trying to add a chroot'ed sftp thingy by following the advice of various websites to put something like this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config: "Match group sftpjail ChrootDirectory /home/specialjailhome ForceCommand internal-sftp", however, when i do that, ALL my ssh stuff breaks, even basic login, no error message in any of the logs other than the pointless: Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal
[21:27] <[twisti]> init: ssh main process (22599) terminated with status 255 Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal init: ssh respawning too fast, stopped, any idea ?
[21:27] <templet> excellent thank you
[21:27] <[twisti]> did that all get through ?
[21:27] <symptom> hello
[21:27] <span89> it looks like I'm just gonna have to go back to Windows. I'm really sad about this. I've tried to install Ubuntu on 3 machines and all of them had ONE thing that wasn't compatible (which was necessary in order for me to use it), causing me to revert back to windows
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> span89: just do it then, you don't need to tell us
[21:27] <span89> it suckssssssss. I think I'll just have to try it on a newer machine instead of trying to test it on legacy devices
[21:27] <antnash> on the live cds, is it possible to change the language time out? my wireless keyboard doesn't seem to work with that screen
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Natty
[21:28] <uofm49426> i want a good not to hard to setup vnc server for ubuntu 11.10
[21:28] <coventry> On ubuntu lynx, gnome-volume-control has stopped recognizing my USB mike/headset.  dmseg still sees it when I plug it in.  Any suggestions as to how to debug this?  It worked two weeks ago...
[21:28] <avn-matt> span89: if u need help then ask, otherwise....
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: has a ppa you will need. Did you try and find guides for this at all...?
[21:28] <antnash> uofm49426, TigerVNC
[21:28] <Atlantic777> Something is using hdd way too much! How can I check which process makes the problem?
[21:28] <coventry> Atlantic777: iotop.
[21:28] <Atlantic777> Can't see that in system monitor.
[21:28] <droidDev32> yes i did but i am trying it on 11.10
[21:28] <eSoul> span89 -- how did you install ndiswrapper, using apt-get?
[21:28] <uofm49426> is it in ubuntu repos
[21:28] <Duelisti> Can you change the position of the launcher in 11.10 from left to right?
[21:29] <Atlantic777> coventry: tnx
[21:29] <span89> ActionParsnip, avn-matt: I've asked for help in this channel many times with no help given. I've also searched the Ubuntu forums and that didn't offer much help either. So what do I do now? And I've done this for more than one machine that I'm trying to get Ubuntu on.
[21:29] <span89> avn-matt: Answer that kindly, please.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: the PPA also covers maverick
[21:29] <avn-matt> span89 ask now
[21:29] <span89> eSoul: yes
[21:29] <adminewb> [twisti] looks like it did, though your pointless log msg on 1st line may have got trimmed
[21:29] <span89> avn-matt: Currently, I'm trying to get my wireless working on this Dell Latitude D610. It's using a Broadcom BCM4306
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> span89: if nobody can answer then thats how it goes. People can't magic up knowledge they don't have do they!?
[21:30] <_jfb_> anyone know of some python code to find the nearest i/j for a lat/lon ?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> span89: think about it
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> _jfb_: I'd ask in #python too
[21:30] <supajerm> MeanEYE: lol, yeh i see that now.  the dir your mounting to i presume had the same permissions for all of them as well.
[21:30] <droidDev32> ActionParsnip, i am using Oneiric
[21:30] <eSoul> span89: Im betting you can get it to work, it may have just been one missed step or one typo maybe?
[21:30] <avn-matt> span89:sudo apt-get remove b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[21:30] <avn-matt> then
[21:30] <avn-matt> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[21:30] <_jfb_> ActionParsnip: oops, thought I was!
[21:31] <MeanEYE> supajerm: Yeah. So basically everything is the same and gets mounted differently.
[21:31] <avn-matt> span89: http://davidwatson.org/2007/05/broadcom-4306-on-feisty-fawn.html guide here
[21:31] <symptom> hi
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: ah, then you have an issue. You may have to slope back to natty, could conatact the PPA maintainer to see if the packages will be available in the PPA for oneiric
[21:31] <scarleo> span89: install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[21:31] <Duelisti> Can you change the position of the launcher in 11.10 from left to right?
[21:31] <avn-matt> span89: also reference http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11334571#post11334571
[21:31] <supajerm> MeanEYE: you could dare try to be more detailed on it and see if it changes anything on the mount: username=xxxxx,workgroup=xxxxx,password= xxxxx,uid=500,gid=500,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 ,rw 0 0
[21:31] <scarleo> span89: reinstall if they are already installed
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> span89: so you want people to just spawn knowledge from nothing to answer your question? If we could do that then pub quizes ould be a snap
[21:32] <supajerm> MeanEYE: sorry, I probably won't be of much more help beyond that.
[21:32] <CaptWho> if i remove unity, will i just have the gnome desktop running like it was in "the good old days"?
[21:32] <avn-matt> span89 I just googled "ubuntu your card name" and came up with 5 guides in two seconds... probably why you didn't get an answer in here
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> droidDev32: if you reinstall with natty, you can use the PPA now :)
[21:32] <fellayaboy> what chanell can i talk about ssh
[21:32] <SacPlastik> Hey everybody :) I've got some problems with my Ubuntu Server, is someone available to help me in private ? That would be very cool
[21:32] <OerHeks> Duelisti, no unity sticks to the left
[21:32] <Breathoffire> Hey, i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and it's not recognizing my flash drive AT ALL. Anyone know how i can fix this problem?
[21:32] <Duelisti> kay
[21:33] <span89> avn-matt: No need to be nasty. I've tried 4 different guides. I've tried to install the firmware cutter and legacy installer through Synaptic and the Terminal as well, but neither worked.
[21:33] <span89> avn-matt: So what now?
[21:33] <DasEi> fellayaboy: her if it's ubu-related, #linux is more unspecific
[21:33] <DasEi> here*
[21:33] <avn-matt> which ver of ubuntu?
[21:33] <[twisti]> adminewb: Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal init: ssh main process (22599) terminated with status 255 Oct 19 23:11:40 Ubuntu-1004-lucid-64-minimal init: ssh respawning too fast, stopped
[21:33] <span89> avn-matt: 11.04
[21:33] <Duelisti> Can I change the number of workspaces on 11.10?
[21:33] <CaptWho> so Duelisti, you're saying that i cant remove unity?
[21:34] <fellayaboy> well when i ssh from my phone and i disconnect the processes i was doing halts and finishes.  how can i have the remote computer simply complete the task i ask it to do when i disconnect from remote server?
[21:34] <templet> are backports on ubuntu lucid 10.04 LTS more tested than they would be no ubuntu natty ?
[21:34] <span89> avn-matt: What I'm wondering is if an earlier version of Ubuntu would play friendlier with what I'm using.
[21:34] <eSoul> fellayaboy -- sounds like you need to use screen
[21:34] <DasEi> Breathoffire: neither sudo fdisk -l nor lsusb lists it ?
[21:34] <avn-matt> span, burn an .iso of an older ver and just let it load from the live screen
[21:34] <avn-matt> see if it works... try gutsy
[21:35] <CaptWho> i have that option in the ubuntu software system to remove Unity and i really hate it
[21:35] <avn-matt> LTS ver
[21:35] <fellayaboy> im using connectbot which solely uses terminal... would i have to use a vnc perhaps eSoul?
[21:35] <scarleo> span89: you can get it working in 11.10, just do it step by step
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> !notunity | CaptWho
[21:35] <MeanEYE> supajerm: I tried mounting with --verbose and saw that kernel gets all the same parameters. Am only thinking that remote drive could have created mounts differently. Thanks anyway! :D
[21:35] <eSoul> screen is a terminal app -- you run screen from console and you get a new console
[21:35] <avn-matt> span89 dont upgrade to 11.10 or you might end up in here for the same reason i am....
[21:35] <avn-matt> just fresh install it
[21:35] <supajerm> fellayaboy: you could try to nohup the process your running
[21:36] <templet> span89, there are reveresed engineered broadcom drivers somewhere on the web don't ever give up there is likely a solution have you tried  http://www.googlubuntu.com/  and http://ubuntuforums.org ?
[21:36] <eSoul> once there, run your program, and then you hit Ctrl+A and then D, this will "disconnect" your screen session
[21:36] <CaptWho> awesome, thanks ubottu
[21:36] <asif> @span89 I'd recommend going with the older version, its the best choice most of the time as they're normally a lot more stable
[21:36] <svip> How do I install Gnome 2 on 11.10?
[21:36] <fellayaboy> eSoul i see so Screen would continue the process after i connect
[21:36] <eSoul> yes
[21:36] <span89> asif: I hear you on that and will most likely give that a try.
[21:36] <asif> unless you're happy to faff around trying to fix the problem
[21:36] <DasEi> CaptWho: ubott.. is the channel ro-bot, triggered by ! like :
[21:36] <Breathoffire> DasEi L lsusb lists it
[21:36] <DasEi> !brain
[21:36] <fellayaboy> supajerm: nohup you say..ill google that and see
[21:36] <Duelisti> CaptWho, like ubottu said, you can have fallback mode, which is similar to gnome 2, but it's kinda ugly
[21:36] <scarleo> !notunity | svip
[21:36] <Machtin> !skype
[21:36] <orated> Is there any difference between selecting Canonocal partners from software sources and sudo add-apt-repository “deb http://archive.canonical.com/ oneiric partner”?
[21:37] <throstur> I'm trying to enable monitor mode on my wireless card, but I experience problems with open processes that could cause trouble, I try using sudo killall NetworkManager etc but they just WON'T DIE! How can I make them stop coming back?
[21:37] <DasEi> Breathoffire: is it formatted ?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> CaptWho: could just install xfce4, log off and log into xfce session. It will look and smell like Gnome2
[21:37] <adminewb> [twisti] sorry I'd have little insight into what would cause such errors; just pointing out what got through :/
[21:37] <eSoul> but the session stays active even when the app is done doing its job, when you log back in, you can type "screen -r" and get back to your session you screen-ed off
[21:37] <[twisti]> ah ok, thanks anyways
[21:37] <fellayaboy> okay ima take a look at screen and nohup brb eSoul supajerm
[21:37] <Machtin> that skype info doesn't seem to be recent. anything else on 64bit skype?
[21:37] <[twisti]> i guess its just a bug in ubuntu, the same line works fine on normal debians
[21:38] <CaptWho> ActionParsnip, will things run just as they did under the gnome 2 desktop?
[21:38] <fellayaboy> awesome eSoul sounds like what ive been needing
[21:38] <orated> Machtin: Enabling Canonical partners will let you install skype
[21:38] <Breathoffire> DasEi : No, it's not..since i can't open it here i guess i'll have to format it on another pc, but that's running Windows...is that a problem?
[21:38] <asif> does anyone know if Ubuntu has a option similar to safe mode in Windows??
[21:38] <DasEi> CaptWho: yes
[21:38] <eSoul> screen is a good solution for this problem, been using it for a long while
[21:38] <asif> i.e if you're installation goes kaput you're able to fix it
[21:38] <adminewb> [twisti] debians using the same kernel as your oneiric counterpart?
[21:38] <asif> and how is the other question
[21:38] <DasEi> Breathoffire: nope, use  gparted to format it
[21:38] <throstur> I'm trying to enable monitor mode on my wireless card, but I experience problems with open processes that could cause trouble, I try using sudo killall NetworkManager etc but they just WON'T DIE! How can I make them stop coming back?
[21:38] <[twisti]> i dont even know that word
[21:38] <fellayaboy> thanks esoul
[21:38] <supajerm> fellayaboy: screen > nohup ..nohup if you cant have screen installed only (or if you just wanna be old school)
[21:38] <fellayaboy> ima check it out
[21:38] <CaptWho> that works for me
[21:39] <adminewb> [twisti] oh, i mean 11.10 release
[21:39] <Breathoffire> DasEi : i already tried with gparted and it's not recognizing it :/
[21:39] <[twisti]> i run 10.04 lts
[21:39] <Machtin> orated: http://pastebin.com/y2DDU3cB
[21:39] <fellayaboy> i see supajerm. ima learn both u never know when u might need the other
[21:39] <adminewb> [twisti] lucid, then, I run lucid too
[21:39] <mongy> Anyone know where emerald went from the repos, and why ?  I need it for proper window decoration with compiz in xfce
[21:39] <DasEi> Breathoffire: you tried to change disk in gparted's upper right corner ?
[21:40] <throstur> I experience problems with open processes that could cause trouble, I try using sudo killall NetworkManager etc but they just WON'T DIE! How can I make them stop coming back?
[21:40] <niranjan> Hi there, how do I flush dns cache on 11.10? If I ping to machine in intranet, it resolves to the name of external server
[21:40] <niranjan> Checked my hosts file, nothing there
[21:40] <hoxha> guys, how can I make alt characters in ubuntu?
[21:40] <Polah> throstur, try kill -9 <pid>
[21:40] <Breathoffire> DasEi : That works, thanks! So now i format it to linux-swap?
[21:40] <adminewb> [twisti] in any case the principle still applies; your difficulty may relate to a given version of linux, distinct from what the distro does with it
[21:40] <fellayaboy> i thought ubuntu doesnt have a dns cache
[21:40] <DasEi> Breathoffire: if you want swap on it, can do
[21:40] <[twisti]> possible
[21:40] <kion> I was trying to configure Unity and opened the Compiz-Settings manager, the thing crashed and now I the unity bar at the left is not there, is there a way to reset unity to its default values for that user? (other users are ok)
[21:41] <melow01> I'm wondering if there is a way to route my internet traffic through WiFi and my Telnet session through Ethernet. I'm on a Netbook running Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
[21:41] <[twisti]> but i see other people with 10 lts complaining it doesnt work for them either
[21:41] <DasEi> Breathoffire: usually a usb is used to store files, you want swap on it ??
[21:41] <adminewb> [twisti] maybe you can find some backported version of the sshd package then?
[21:41] <orated> Machtin: Strange. I've <IP_ADDRESS>-0oneiric2 installed. Try to purge with sudo apt-get purge skype then install again?
[21:41] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Not really, no. What would you recommend?
[21:42] <fellayaboy> yeah [twist] it gets like that in the beginning thats why i havent upgraded yet from 11.01
[21:42] <popsch> does anyone have the same but in 11.10? ccsm -> grid -> set the shortcut for "put top right"; then use the shortcut; the window placement is incorrect (top instead of top right)
[21:42] <[twisti]> maybe, ill keep looking to see if i find anyone who solved it before  trying it myself
[21:42] <DasEi> Breathoffire: will  you use it just on linux or on windows, too ?
[21:42] <hoxha> guys, how can I make alt characters in ubuntu?
[21:42] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Both
[21:42] <julie101010> melow01, it is not possible without a kernel patch
[21:42] <melow01> julie101010, ok, thanks
[21:43] <eiriksvin> is there a way to reduce the icon size of the dash?
[21:43] <Machtin> orated: you're on 64bit?
[21:43] <DasEi> Breathoffire: then either ntfs or ext3 (there is a free win-driver for ext3, and this way can keep permissions and headers under linux)
[21:43] <jellow> where is inittab i checked in /etc/ ?
[21:43] <fellayaboy> hoxha google it
[21:43] <Polah> DasEi: There's Windows support for ext4 isn't there?
[21:43] <orated> Machtin: Not atm but I've used it on 64bit and it works
[21:44] <eiriksvin> how do I get more themes for 11.10?
[21:44] <Breathoffire> DasEi : Ok, thanks alot!
[21:44] <hoxha> :S
[21:44] <DasEi> Polah: read, no writing
[21:44] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin try gnome-look.org
[21:44] <DasEi> Polah: and still difficulties in subdirs
[21:44] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin just right click the desktop icon and click resize
[21:44] <HorizonXP> if I want to mount a directory on my NAS device via SSH, is SSHFS the preferred way?
[21:44] <julie101010> jellow, there's no inittab anymore
[21:45] <eSoul> HorizonXP -- if that is the same as SCP, then yes
[21:45] <eiriksvin> I think I liked the classic ubuntu better, simple and effective
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> gnome-look for unity?
[21:45] <DasEi> !inittab | hoxha
[21:45] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin so do i ..its much better
[21:45] <DasEi> !nounity | MonkeyDust
[21:45] <fellayaboy> MonkeyDust im not sure for unity
[21:45] <Machtin> orated: needed the i386-package.. :)
 right click does nothing
[21:45] <eSoul> or uses SCP as its protocol for the user level mount utility
[21:46] <jellow> julie101010: If i creat it will it use it ? what has replaced it ?
[21:46] <fellayaboy> ubottu..theres no classic option during login in 11.10?
 shows the name, and if I want to remove it
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> DasEi: i know that, but someone was advising gnome-look
[21:46] <myk_robinson> Ubuntu Banshee in 11.10, how can I get my Amazon MP3's to download?
[21:46] <HorizonXP> eSoul: i think so.. i basically want these directories mounted when i log in. i am planning to authenticate using public key
[21:46] <DasEi> fellayaboy: ubott is a ro-bot, triggered by  ! like:
[21:46] <Polah> fellayaboy, install gnome-shell to get the classic option, which uses the GNOME shell instead of the Unity shell
[21:46] <fellayaboy> when i right click a desktop icon it shows me the option to resize
[21:46] <DasEi> !brain > fellayaboy
[21:46] <makaveli_lcf> hi
[21:46] <julie101010> jellow, someone just triggered the factoid for it about 15 lines ago
[21:47] <eSoul> sounds like it would work, HorizonXP, and using public key makes it all automattic too eh?
[21:47] <eiriksvin> Polah will gnome-shell look just like the old school?
[21:47] <DasEi> !nounity > jellow
[21:47] <eSoul> i know I use fish:// with konqueror, but I know that you have to install a bunch of stuff to use kde apps in ubuntu
[21:47] <fellayaboy> lol im new to this DasEi
[21:48] <DasEi> eiriksvin: yes, old gnome
[21:48] <DasEi> fellayaboy: nvm
[21:48] <heelguru> Polah:  see http://m.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/access-ubuntu-from-windows-7
[21:48] <CaptWho> where the bleep is the icon to install software in 11.10?
[21:48] <Polah> eiriksvin: No, it won't.
[21:49] <Polah> CaptWho: Ctrl+Alt+T then use apt-get (; Search for Ubuntu Software Centre if that's what you mean, or install Synaptic
[21:49] <eiriksvin> dang, I want my old menus back
[21:50] <CaptWho> eh...
[21:50] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin. when u log in theres no option in the bottom that tells u unity, classic. classic (no effect)??
[21:50] <Polah> eiriksvin, gnome2 is no longer under development. There's a fork called mate but I don't know about functionality on Ubuntu. You can move to another environment like KDE or LXDE if you want something with panels more similar to GNOME2
[21:50] <CaptWho> thanks Polah, this new system sux
[21:50] <uofm49426> how do i config tigervnc dont see it in menu
[21:50] <templet> this may sound like a silly question but i do not have any idea.  does 10.04 LTS support ext4 ?
[21:50] <Polah> CaptWho: Don't use it then. Your choice to use whatever you like.
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> i have the option to choose classic gnome, but it stil is unity (live session, that is)
[21:51] <DasEi> templet: yes, it's default FS
[21:51] <fellayaboy> logoff then log back in and click ur username and see if theirs an option below eirikvin
 I have trouble with the "3D Unity" but running in the 2D is what I'm doing...
[21:51] <eiriksvin> 3D unity freezes, I got a mouse, but can't do anything
[21:52] <adminewb> templet, sounds like there's a followup question there?
[21:52] <Breathoffire> DasEi : It works now but when i try to copy stuff to the flash drive it says permission denied :/
[21:52] <fellayaboy> eiriksvin all i knwo is in 11.01 u can switch it to classic mode..the old school ubuntu
[21:52] <templet> adminewb, i simply wonder if it supports ext4.  10.04.  thats all.
[21:52] <DasEi> Breathoffire: open a terminal ..
[21:52] <eiriksvin> 11.10 booted that option to the curb