[14:24] <czajkowski> salut
[14:25] <nhaines> czajkowski: good morning!
[14:38] <czajkowski> nhaines: I think it was you but there is a SF meet up on Mission St. tonight
[14:46] <nhaines> czajkowski: oh, unfortunately I'm 7 hours south, what a shame.
[15:03] <dpm> hi all, just setting up the session, bear with me 1 minute :)
[15:05] <czajkowski> dpm: np thanks
[15:06] <dpm> ok, session links set up on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22610/community-roundtable/ for those who want to join
[15:07] <nhaines> I'm watching now.  :)
[15:08] <czajkowski> nhaines: hmm all I see Live stream is starting soon
[15:08] <nhaines> czajkowski: that's all I see too, but it *is* soothing.
[15:09] <czajkowski> nhaines: if you say so :)
[15:10] <popey> Hello hello
[15:10] <nhaines> popey: hello!
[15:11] <ahayzen> o/
[15:11] <popey> o/
[15:11] <DanChapman> o/
[15:12] <James_Mulholland> o/
[15:13] <vthompson> \o (think differently)
[15:13] <ahayzen> vthompson, you broke my Mexican wave :-P lol
[15:13] <bannannas> do you guys smoke?
[15:13] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/track/community/
[15:14] <cm-t> o/
[15:14] <faenil> o/
[15:15] <ahayzen> Community Convergence \o/
[15:15] <bannannas> what is popey drinkin?
[15:16] <bannannas> is that a cat in background?
[15:16] <cm-t> I've heard #ubucon !
[15:16] <bannannas> it looks like the cat is on popey shoulder :D
[15:16] <bannannas> :))
[15:16] <mhall119> bannannas: popey's cat is a staple of Ubuntu Online Summits
[15:16] <bannannas> cat star
[15:18] <cm-t> Promo for those in france this month: Paris ( https://ubuntu-paris.org ) Rouen ( https://ubuntu-rouen.org ) and Toulouse ( https://2015.capitoledulibre.org )
[15:18] <cm-t>  ( #ubucon in france (
[15:18] <dpm> thanks cm-t!
[15:19] <Mirv> the cat is very thorough in cleaning its butt
[15:19] <bannannas> haha
[15:19] <mhall119> Mirv: as all cats are
[15:19] <nhaines> Now the cat is sleeping.
[15:19] <Mirv> the males sometimes are a bit more messy...
[15:19] <nhaines> No, there it goes again.
[15:19] <Mirv> like my white one
[15:19] <bannannas> is that an unreleased ubuntu phone on popey upper shelf?
[15:20] <bannannas> or a table?
[15:20] <bannannas> tablet
[15:22] <cm-t> Question: When i plug the usb power to the sliport adapter, the phone show itself to be charging. do i still will have issue with batterie with that nexus4 pluged for 2 days
[15:22] <bannannas> does that logitec work with the unreleased ubuntu phone?
[15:22] <ksantacr> nice keyboard :D
[15:22] <nhaines> I found one of those over at Best Buy last week.  They do look like nice keyboards.
[15:23] <ianorlin> mhall119: maybe ask if you could borrow ahoneybun if he has one
[15:23] <mhall119> I think he only has a bt mouse, which I also have
[15:24] <ianorlin> ask loco mailing list?
[15:24] <mhall119> ianorlin: yeah, good idea
[15:25] <cm-t> taking ubucon word is not bad idea: We at ubuntu-fr do ubucon under the name of ubuntu-party since 2007, but we are now feelling bad because our hashtag #ubuntuparty is 'stolen' sometimes when a political party called ubuntu party is doing some hashtag :(
[15:25] <czajkowski> :(
[15:25] <popey> bannannas, which tablet?
[15:25] <mhall119> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-community-roundtable
[15:25] <czajkowski> dpm: http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uos-1511-community-roundtable/latest
[15:25] <popey> bannannas, (i have no unreleased devices)
[15:26] <dpm> thanks!
[15:26] <bannannas> popey: :)) sure
[15:30] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
[15:31] <bannannas> lunchpad mmm
[15:31] <bannannas> who's hungary?
[15:32] <czajkowski> increasing or decreasing ??
[15:32] <mhall119> decreasing
[15:32] <cm-t> Not sure where to ask: I wanted to order some sticker pack. I choose €. i select 2 sricker pack. when i checkout, i can see it will be 0.02kg, means it's ok with fees, should be close to postcard prices. But less expensive option is 11pounds. Of course i will not order that, will wait a community event to get some, really not giving tjat money to ups for 0.02kg
[15:33] <cm-t> 11£ just for delivery, while the 0.02kg item cost itself less thab 5€
[15:36] <jose> dpm: what about putting a little jar for tips at events and that collected money going to the fund?
[15:37] <mhall119> jose: somebody would have to make that donation
[15:37] <mhall119> it'd probably be better use to just apply the tip jar funds to the loco team running the event
[15:38] <jose> mhall119: maybe for huge events like scale it may bring some extra money?
[15:38] <mhall119> maybe
[15:38] <czajkowski> jcastro BINGO!
[15:38] <czajkowski> people don';t know what they can ask for in the fund and know people everyday do
[15:39] <ksantacr> kisses for money :D
[15:42] <dpm> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute
[15:49] <dshimer> As "just a desktop user", I try to donate each release.  I love the sliders but agree that a couple could be merged or at least explained.  I would  use an "I Donated" button especially on G+.  And is there an official Flattr avenue to donate?
[15:49] <mhall119> I don't think we have anything on flattr for Ubuntu as a project
[15:49] <mhall119> individual contributors might have their own
[15:50] <dpm> we don't have it, no I don't think
[15:50] <James_Mulholland> The amazon thing is a good one, as it comes at no extra cost to the user. Amazon just provide a kickback form their own profit for the referal
[15:50] <James_Mulholland> *from
[15:50] <nhaines> I know I've been encouraging everyone to buy my own book through my website and the affiliate link there.  It doubles my royalty, basically.
[15:50] <dshimer> I always keep some cash in Flattr and just subscribe to favorite projects.  Sure it isn't much but I go with the philosophy "if everyone did a buck or two"
[15:51] <mhall119> nhaines: smart :)
[15:52] <nhaines> mhall119: and hey, someone in September clicked *right* past my book and bought like 10 Star Wars comics and that earned me $6.  :)
[15:52] <cm-t> When i make a donation, shouldn't i be invited to suscribe to a newsletter or something about where thz found went, action that was made and all ?...
[15:53] <nhaines> cm-t: the reports are quarterly and sort of fuzzily remembered.  :)
[15:53] <dshimer> One more mention of Flattr it does monthly subscriptions
[15:53] <cm-t> I mean, i don't remeber i could suscribe to a diggest when donating
[15:54] <nhaines> I still have a bit of bitcoin floating around.
[15:55] <jose> action item for me
[15:55] <jose> and twitter has been fixed
[15:55] <jose> calendar as well
[15:56] <nhaines> \o/
[15:58] <dpm> thanks everyone on IRC
[15:58] <Ridgewing> thanks everyone.
[15:58] <dpm> jose, even without being on the hangout, you managed to get a WI ;)
[15:58] <ksantacr> ty
[15:58] <dpm> "well done" :)
[15:58] <ahayzen> thanks guys :-)
[15:58] <jose> hdhe
[15:59] <jose> uonair is a difficult topic... I'd have to explain a lot of things re the videos
[15:59] <jose> but if you want some input on that, thursday I'm available for the roundtable
[15:59] <jose> I'm in class right now
[16:02] <dpm> jose, cool, we can perhaps talk about it then
[16:03] <jose> sounds good
[16:03] <dpm> nhaines, omw
[16:03] <nhaines> dpm: do you have the link?
[16:04] <dpm> yeah
[16:05] <dpm> nhaines, actually, not. The link on summit takes me to the G+ event, but not to the actual hangout
[16:05] <dpm> nhaines, do you have the hangout link?
[16:05] <nhaines> Yup!
[16:07] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/1aSefD6s52
[16:07] <dpm> for those of you wanting to contribute to or follow the notes about the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase ^
[16:15] <nhaines> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
[16:16] <Ridgewing> cheers !
[16:20] <Ridgewing> nhaines: That was me .. that was my domain !
[16:21] <nhaines> Ridgewing: oh great!  Then please know that I felt really bad for losing your email.
[16:23] <Ridgewing> nhaines: That's ok .. I'm using the website for Ubuntu Q&A now, the domain was http://www.wilywerewolf.com/ .. you can check it out , later ...
[16:24] <Ridgewing> Ubuntu Q& A , I mean : posting my specs to get (e.g. the sound working etc) www.wilywerewolf.com/SonyVaio-VGN-FS285B.html
[16:30] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Can we possibly have more than one song on this disc ? please, possibly, pretty please ?
[16:32] <Ridgewing> nhaines: thanks - cheers for that !
[16:35] <Ridgewing> nhaines: My only improvement : Is that could we please have a wallpaper of a fantastic architectural building, in the crop-of-wallpapers that get admitted ?
[16:42] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Could nhaines give out his email address & twitter name  for the community so that if we have any other suggestions - We can get in touch ?
[16:43] <Ridgewing> cheers for that.
[16:45] <dpm> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team
[16:47] <Ridgewing> got it !
[16:48] <Ridgewing> Question: Do think the showcase could be incentivised financially (as a prize of some sort) to give higher quality of submissions ?
[16:52] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Why don't you just offer an Ubuntu phone ? At least it can take video and photo anyway !
[16:54] <Ridgewing> ok I think we're done, for now, thanks .
[16:56] <nhaines> Ridgewing: thanks for joining us.  :)
[16:57] <Ridgewing> nhaines: that's OK , can you keep chatting for a minute or two ?
[16:58] <nhaines> Ridgewing: yup, I'm free.
[16:59] <Ridgewing> Ok, great - first of all I don't want to freak you out or anything but I'm a Nathan too ... (!) .. just sayin'
[16:59] <nhaines> Haha, another one!  :)
[16:59] <Ridgewing> I was thinking about changing it thou .. to curran.
[17:00] <nhaines> That's not a common name.  It's very distinctive.
[17:00] <Ridgewing> (almost Nathan .. but I use cru-buntu (Crouton chromebook ubuntu) .. so it kinda fits for me.
[17:01] <Ridgewing> nhaines: I know it's distinctive .. I hate when people misprounce it annoyingly as "Nation" , which is the reason for the change .. that what do where I live, a_lot.
[17:02] <Ridgewing> *what they do where I live ...
[17:02] <nhaines> My friends' son sometimes says my name in German as a nickname, without the /th/ sound.  But that's cute at least.  :)
[17:02] <Ridgewing> What Na-an , is that it ?
[17:03] <Ridgewing> Anyway.. I'm getting off-topic .. I want to talk about something else ....
[17:04] <Ridgewing> I'm thinking about getting the xenial webaddress and putting the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase as a mediagoblin sub-domain on it.
[17:05] <nhaines> Like "Nah-tan"
[17:05] <nhaines> I don't know much about mediagoblin, so I'll have to look that up.
[17:06] <nhaines> It looks nice.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Oh how cute .. abit like "Han solo" with a Na .. yes I've had people in Ireland say that in Kerry too.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> nhaines: What does ?
[17:06] <nhaines> Mediagoblin.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> Oh yes, I'm ion contact with the developer - so it would be a good start ...
[17:06] <nhaines> One problem, though, is that it becomes Yet Another User Account that people have to sign up to submit to the contest.
[17:07] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Yes, but I think you can use google plus for that sorta thing, though. I don't think that's an issue (at large).
[17:10] <Ridgewing> MY question is : could you get canonical to back my website, if it is done in a proper manner, so that we can have the Ubuntu showcase etc ? I'm part of the IOM Lug and a genuine community ,member. I just feel I'm falling on deaf ears as far as promoting Ubuntu (in Canonical).
[17:10] <nhaines> Well, Canonical doesn't really have much to do with the contest.
[17:11] <nhaines> I'm a little reluctant to make a big change during the LTS cycle, but I could definitely see using mediagoblin for xenial+1.
[17:12] <Ridgewing> BUT I need canonical backing, if I'm to do an Ubuntu Showcase sub-domain so that we can use their trademark etc .. perhaps you could have a think about it and we could talk later in the UOS ?
[17:12] <nhaines> You don't need Canonical backing to use the Ubuntu trademark in reference to Ubuntu.
[17:13] <Ridgewing> Really, Didn't you hear about the "FixUbuntu.com" fiasco ?
[17:13] <nhaines> Yes, an intern sent out a letter and was immediately reprimanded.
[17:14] <nhaines> And then Canonical legal confirmed that the letter was not sent validly and no trademark license was needed, and they gave one anyway.
[17:14] <Ridgewing> ok, fair enough, maybe you are correct - but could we at least " have a think " about this stuff and talk later in the UOS ?
[17:15] <nhaines> I can always be reached at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:16] <nhaines> If you just want permission, we can get that for you, but you shouldn't let that delay planning or development.
[17:16] <Ridgewing> ok, no probs , just try not to 'loose' it - and I shall be in touch, Cheers \o/
[17:16] <nhaines> Great, thanks!  \o/
[17:17] <Ridgewing> OK - big hugs & back to my sandwich (it has bacon in it so I can't ignore it any longer  :)
[17:18] <nhaines> Oh yes, I'm going out for lunch and then I'll come back and watch more sessions.  :)
[17:18] <nhaines> Enjoy the bacon!  :D
[17:38] <dragos> hi
[17:39] <Ridgewing> dragos: Hello there, how are you ?
[17:41] <dragos> Ridgewing: are u a dev?
[17:41] <dragos> and im ok
[17:42] <Ridgewing> I do the reddit posts.
[17:42] <dragos> but are u a ubuntu dev?
[17:43] <Ridgewing> dragos: No , not exactly a dev ... https://redd.it/3muy6a I do these.
[17:44] <dragos> oh...
[17:44] <dragos> i make ubuntu desktop widgets
[17:45] <dragos> hi hikiko
[17:46] <nhaines> Ridgewing: oh btw, those are insanely useful and also an insane amount of work.  :)
[17:48] <dragos> what?
[17:50] <dpm> ok, next up, the Ubuntu Community Team Q&A as part of UOS this week :)
[17:50] <nhaines> I should go get that lunch.  :)
[17:51] <dragos> i shoud g to eat cause im hungry :)
[17:53] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Yeah - only 10 minutes now - oh and go heavy on the Hellman's mayonnaise - you've earned it !
[17:55] <Ridgewing> dpm: are we nearly ready for this ? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22612/community-team-qa/
[17:55] <dpm> Ridgewing, yes we are :)
[17:55] <Ridgewing> awesome ..
[17:56]  * Ridgewing slides everyone a beer who's attending UOS so far ! \o/
[17:58] <wxl> slow down, Ridgewing. some of us are still at work XD
[17:58] <wxl> to be frank, i'm still working on the first cuppa tea
[17:58] <Ridgewing> wxl, Sorry I nearly spilt some then ... (over 35 people) I only have two hands. ghehe
[17:58] <balloons> dpm, presumably we need to update ubuntuonair as well
[17:59] <dpm> balloons, it's up-to-date
[17:59] <balloons> dpm, the irc channel is wrong
[17:59] <balloons> fixing i
[17:59] <balloons> fixing it
[17:59] <Ridgewing> ballons are you on the etherpad too ?
[17:59] <Ridgewing> **balloons,
[17:59] <balloons> not atm
[18:00] <dpm> ok, ready to hit broadcast :)
[18:00] <Ridgewing> balloons: Well, it's up & ready to-go !
[18:00] <mhall119> o/
[18:00] <Ridgewing> live now.
[18:01]  * balloons watches for the moment
[18:01] <wxl> "find the tab" does not necessarily sound right
[18:01] <mhall119> any questions for us, on any topic, ask them here starting with QUESTION
[18:01] <Ridgewing> wxl, I concur with you.
[18:02] <Dragos> mhall119:
[18:02] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Could the presenters also log into the etherpad too. So we can action things please .
[18:02]  * mhall119 hopes he doesn't end up with action items from a Q&A
[18:03] <Ridgewing> you won't.
[18:03] <Dragos> quetion: why when i delete the .trash_1000 folder from usb nautilus freezezs on
[18:03] <Dragos> ubuntu 15.10
[18:04] <Ridgewing> Dragos: You need to put a question mark at the end , and also put your QUESTION: in caps like I did. Ok ?
[18:04] <Dragos> ok
[18:05] <mhall119> question mark isn't necessary
[18:05] <Dragos> QUESTIONL Why when i delete .trash_1000 folder from usb nautilus freeses?
[18:05] <Ridgewing> ok
[18:05] <Dragos> Ridgewing: are u an dev?
[18:05] <bluedragon77> QUESTION: Are there any tiling WM fans in Canonical? If yes, how can I contact them?
[18:05] <Ridgewing> Dragos: No. I told you I'm not.
[18:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Any updates on the telegram app for ubuntu phones? :D
[18:06] <Dragos> oh yea ...
[18:06] <frecel> QUESTION: is there a recommended hardware I should get to be able to plug in a screen mouse and keyboard to my nexus4 to test convergence features?
[18:06] <Dragos> who is a dev?
[18:07] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Your on the wrong channel, for that - this is community.
[18:07] <Dragos> oh..
[18:07] <wxl> QUESTION: Do we still need nominations for positions on the Community Council or the LoCo Council?
[18:07] <mhall119> he can ask any questions, even if we're not developers
[18:07] <YoBoY> hi
[18:07] <Ridgewing> mhall119: Can you paste in the dev channel on irc for Dragos ? please.
[18:08] <Ridgewing> YoBoY: Aloha!
[18:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How are you all doing?
[18:08] <Dragos> ok
[18:09] <mhall119> Dragos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+filebug
[18:09] <Dragos> thanks mhall119
[18:09] <mhall119> no problem
[18:10] <Dragos> QUESTION: is there any desktop widgets for unity?
[18:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "Soon" that could mean "In a few hours" or "In a few weeks" its like Ahhh plz xD <3
[18:11] <walloons> QUESTION: why are so many russian scopes in ubuntu store?
[18:12] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: In the community roundtable with popey and JCastro etc - An action was asked about getting Jono Bacon on a christmas ubuntu-on-air, or sometime this year. Could we make sure that is actioned, as he keeps saying he wants to-do one on reddit ?& we miss the metal-guitar song at the end !
[18:12] <nhaines> ChloeWolfieGirl: if they ship it now, it will break your phone. :)
[18:12] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What is the current state of the App Store? Can we (1) buy apps, (2) donate to open source apps, (3) in app purchases, and (4) subscriptions.
[18:12] <wxl> dpm: fwiw you are REALLY quiet compared to mhall119
[18:12] <Dragos> can ubuntu phone replace ubuntu desktop? :D
[18:12] <wxl> Dragos: convergence, man. ubuntu phone is ubuntu desktop.
[18:12] <Ridgewing> Dragos: never !
[18:12] <popey> Ridgewing, jono knows where we are :)
[18:12] <nhaines> QUESTION: dpm, can you send your extra Bluetooth keyboard to mhall119 so he doesn't have people using the touch keyboard on the TV?
[18:13] <popey> +1
[18:13] <dpm> haha, nice try, again :)
[18:13] <walloons> QUESTION: will bq launch the bq aquaris X5 with ubuntu?
[18:13] <nhaines> haha
[18:14] <walloons> QUESTION: is it possible to run firefox desktop on Ubuntu phones?
[18:14] <wxl> mhall119: LoCo council nominations appear to end this Thursday. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/10/15/loco-council-call-for-nominations/
[18:14] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What happened to the design videos for both apps and unity8?
[18:15] <Dragos> will there will be ubuntu phone for s4 active?
[18:16] <Dragos> unity 8
[18:16] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: what app do you miss the most or which was available for ubuntu phone the most?
[18:16] <walloons> QUESTION: what happened to Ubuntu next image?
[18:16] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: find karni on IRC and ask him if you can get a copy of the 2.0 alpha
[18:16] <wxl> QUESTION: dpm could you please turn up your input so your volume matches that of mhall119 ? XD
[18:16] <CheeseBurg> walloons: I second that question
[18:16] <walloons> :d
[18:17] <walloons> :))
[18:17] <Ridgewing> +1
[18:17] <bluedragon77> A professional question. How does one become a combined developer and community manager? I am an IT student and I did dabble a bit into communication classes.
[18:17] <wxl> bluedragon77: fwiw, i use awesomewm, though i'm using lubuntu not ubuntu.
[18:18] <Ridgewing> lost video ...
[18:18] <Ridgewing> oh, there it is ..
[18:18] <bluedragon77> QUESTION: A professional question. How does one become a combined developer and community manager? I am an IT student and I did dabble a bit into communication classes.
[18:18] <Dragos> im 10
[18:18] <Ridgewing> figures.
[18:19] <nhaines> I'm available to jump into the video call if there are any LoCo or Ubucon Summit questions now, having finished lunch.  :)
[18:19] <bluedragon77> QUESTION:Do you have any information   will the AMD driver bug be fixed soon in 15.10?
[18:19] <nhaines> bluedragon77: that got fixed last week.  Install fglrx-updates.
[18:20] <walloons> QUESTION: any news from mycroft on ubuntu phones?
[18:20] <AmarSingh> mycroft has a session here on thursday
[18:20]  * wxl considers changing his nick to whaines
[18:20] <nhaines> walloons: they have their own session on Thursday.
[18:20] <walloons> nice
[18:20] <Sergi> When will we have libreoffice in Ubuntu Touch?
[18:21] <walloons> Sergi: prefix with QUESTION
[18:21] <Sergi> Sorry
[18:21] <walloons> np
[18:21] <Sergi> QUESTION: When will we have libreoffice in Ubuntu Touch?
[18:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: how about Satya Nadella for a guest for Ubuntu Q&A that would be an intresting one tbh xD ;P
[18:22] <AmarSingh> lol
[18:22] <Dragos> can i install ubuntu desktop apps on ubuntu phone?
[18:22] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: honestly, that would be rather interesting, considering how opensourcey MS appears to be going
[18:23] <nhaines> Dragos: not yet, but soon.
[18:23] <Dragos> oh
[18:23] <Dragos> thanks
[18:23] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "Sooon"! xD
[18:23] <Dragos> I have plenty of time. I am only 10 yo
[18:24] <nhaines> Dragos: probably by January, but almost certainly by May.
[18:24] <Dragos> ok thanks
[18:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> wxl Defiantly would be interesting, I'd love to see the questions asked as well xD
[18:25] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Is there an ISO for testing Unity8/Snappy Personal on desktop? Will there be one soon for broader testing?
[18:25] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: i don't know if i believe them, though
[18:25] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: they have had a tendency to appear to join the club and then take over
[18:25] <Dragos> How can i bee an ubuntu developer? i just want to feel special
[18:26] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: there is no ISO, and there probably won't be one until after 16.04 LTS.
[18:26] <nhaines> Dragos: to be an Ubuntu developer, you just have to help fix bugs in Ubuntu.  So study programming!
[18:26] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Is canonical heavily branching out to try and get support from other software venders I'm sure a few people at canonical are trying to talk to people like the guys at whatsapp but is there alot of effort there and how are the talks going?
[18:26] <wxl> Dragos: you start developing
[18:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> exl Yeah I agree.. like 3 q&A's later "Welcome to Microsoft Ubuntu Q&A" no thank you
[18:27] <wxl> hehehehe
[18:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Dragos https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[18:27] <Dragos> QUESTION:How can i bee an ubuntu developer? i just want to feel special
[18:27] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: i will say i *WANT* to believe, and certainly the landscape of software has changed. open source is a common thing now.
[18:28] <AmarSingh> Dragos try find a task http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/#!/toplevel/develop
[18:28] <CheeseBurg> nhaines:16.04 will have Unity8 as an option correct?
[18:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> wxl: Yeah I'd like to see MS supporting Ubuntu and Ubuntu phone but highly unlikely to happen, like have you seen how old our skype version is?
[18:28] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Can you code in QML yet ? It'd be a good start.
[18:29] <Dragos> yes..
[18:29] <wxl> true, true. however, i think linux hasn't reached the same status open source has. soon.
[18:29] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Do a task like AmarSingh said, then.
[18:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Dragos make some apps or try to fix some bugs in other apps?
[18:30] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: There is an action on Etherpad that needs completeing ....
[18:30] <Dragos> ok
[18:30] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: well, it's had one since 13.04, but it's not nice.  :)
[18:32] <CheeseBurg> mhall119: There used to be design Q&As, I can't find them now but I did fine this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fNU3iH5u0
[18:32] <Ridgewing> QUESTION:  Can we use firefox extensions on the Ubuntu browser - Is This Scheduled ?
[18:32] <dpm> wxl, done that, let's see if it'S any better now
[18:33] <CheeseBurg> nhaines: That isnt Snappy personal tho
[18:33] <Dragos> QUESTION: will there will be ubuntu phone for s4 active?
[18:33] <wxl> dpm: well we'll see if nhaines ever shuts up :)
[18:33] <dpm> lol
[18:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Hows Mycroft for the ubuntu phone going, any of you tried it?
[18:34] <wxl> dpm: hate to say it but not really
[18:34] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Here's the updated list of phones that work : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:34] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: snappy personal doesn't exist yet.  But the roadmap shows probably May-June ish.  Maybe a little earlier as a preview.
[18:35] <CheeseBurg> nhaines:Thanks!
[18:35] <Dragos> QUESTION can someone guess my age? im 10
[18:36] <wxl> Dragos: um, 10.
[18:36] <Ridgewing> ChloeWolfieGirl: Good question !
[18:36] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Keep ubuntu-ing !
[18:36] <Sergi> In desktop I have to go to Archlinux because of a video driver (xserver-xorg-video-tdfx).
[18:36] <Dragos> okey
[18:36] <Dragos> i find that you can run X.org apps on ubuntu phone like libreoffice or firefox
[18:37] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Ridgewing: thank you :)
[18:37] <Ridgewing> k
[18:37] <Sergi> QUESTION: Is Archlinux driver more updated that that one in 15.10?
[18:38] <Cracknel> You can always download the driver directly from AMD.
[18:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: will there be a good way to separate to look at apps only optimal for desktop use?
[18:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESION: Any update about the HUD?
[18:39] <Sergi> Cracknel: The open driver in Archlinux works fine.
[18:39] <Ridgewing> dpm: I think we need to start speeding through all the questions .... soon.
[18:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Have there been any plans for bringing a background image under scopes and other customisability options such as  changing the way the keyboard looks etc?
[18:40] <Dragos> mhall119: i find that u can run xorg apps on ubuntu phone over mir desktop manager
[18:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "soooooon" xD
[18:40] <AmarSingh> I miss the background image in scopes
[18:40] <AmarSingh> imo it looked nicer
[18:42] <frecel> if we can't do WhatsApp maybe at least we can get a potato salad
[18:42] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: How the situation with the overall Ubuntu community? With several Kubuntu developers leaving, the narrative from the news sites is that Ubuntu's community is shrinking.
[18:42] <Dragos> QUESTION: is there an ps3 emulator for ubuntu?
[18:42] <UbuntuFun_de> Hi there
[18:42] <Cracknel> Sergi: you can use a newer kernel from the hardware enablement stack, the mainline builds from kernel.ubuntu.com or build it yourself
[18:43] <CheeseBurg> Dragos:Such a thing does not exist. Period.
[18:43] <Ridgewing> CheeseBurg: Yeah , good question : What the hell is happening with Kubuntu 16.04 now Mr Riddell has left ?
[18:43] <Ridgewing> UbuntuFun_de: Hiya !
[18:44] <Dragos> ok
[18:45] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Your using the wrong console : https://launchpad.net/xbox360/
[18:45] <Dragos> xD
[18:45] <Ridgewing> xD yourself.
[18:46] <Sergi> Cracknel: Thank you. I'll think on it. But for me is easier to use a distro where it works well.
[18:46] <wxl> Ridgewing: it's still moving along.
[18:46] <AmarSingh> QUESTION: Are there any design mockups of what a finished Unity 8 might look like? Some of the concepts that people made attracted quite a bit of attention :)
[18:47] <Ridgewing> wxl, what is moving along, the video (?)
[18:47] <wxl> Ridgewing: kubuntu.
[18:47] <Ridgewing> oh Ok. so it'l be happening then (Kubuntu 16.04) ??
[18:48] <wxl> yes, Ridgewing
[18:48] <Ridgewing> phew, thank cheesus for that !
[18:48] <Dragos> gtg
[18:49] <nhaines> bye, Dragos!
[18:50] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Will there be a mac and windows version of the Ubuntu browser ?
[18:50] <wxl> nooooooooooooooooooo not more browsers
[18:51] <Ridgewing> Yes yes yes , for it is written !
[18:51] <Dragos> what can i join?
[18:51] <wxl> Dragos: in relation to what?
[18:51] <AmarSingh> What do you mean Dragos?
[18:52] <Dragos> it sad that i have a few years to join what?
[18:52] <wxl> dragos: in general, this is open source. you can join whatever you want. :)
[18:52] <Ridgewing> the samaritans ?
[18:52] <wxl> Ridgewing: but only the good ones!
[18:52] <Ridgewing> have you ever met a bad samaritan ?
[18:52] <Dragos> mhall119: what can i join? u sad i have a few years that i can join something
[18:53] <wxl> well for something to be good, there has to be bad
[18:53] <wxl> they are relative words :)
[18:53]  * Ridgewing walks on both sides of the roadc at once !
[18:55] <cm-t> o/
[18:55] <Ridgewing> wxl, I think "the bad" is in this case, the customer and/or user . So you've got the good, the bad, I'll let Kim Kardashian be the ugly.
[18:55] <wxl> heheheh
[18:55] <Dragos> what session has ended?
[18:55] <AmarSingh> This session
[18:55] <Dragos> what session?
[18:56] <wxl> Dragos: the ubuntu community q&a session
[18:56] <Dragos> oh...
[18:56] <Dragos> ok
[18:56] <wxl> Dragos: in fact, all the sessions for this hour have officially ended
[18:56] <wxl> but obviously we're still going on :)
[18:56] <Dragos> how can i join canonical?
[18:57] <wxl> Dragos: become of age to get a job :)
[18:57] <AmarSingh> Thanks all
[18:57] <Ridgewing> dpm: Your audio is awfull.
[18:57] <Dragos> but he sad i can join canonical
[18:57] <wxl> Dragos: when you do, there are remote work opportunities available http://www.canonical.com/careers
[18:57] <UbuntuFun_de> Thank you guys
[18:58] <wxl> i'm going to go check out the kubuntu session
[18:58] <wxl> thanks dpm nhaines mhall119 for all your hard work in the community
[18:58] <nhaines> Well that was fun.  :)
[18:58] <nhaines> wxl: thanks!  Of course, you do a bit of work yourself.
[18:58] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Maybe you should mention that Kubuntu has a session on directly after this.
[18:58] <wxl> nhaines: a bit XD
[18:58] <dpm> yeah, it was a fun one :)
[18:58] <dpm> yw wxl
[18:59] <Dragos> dpm: can i join canonical at 10?
[18:59] <Ridgewing> Dragos: You may need a note from your Mom, but yes.
[18:59] <Dragos> my mon and my dad let me
[18:59] <Dragos> and how?
[19:00] <Ridgewing> Join Launchpad then ...
[19:00] <Dragos> ok bye
[19:00] <Ridgewing> ww.launchpad.net
[19:01] <dpm> Generally it's about having the right skills for the right job, and not about age. That said, with 10 you might want to concentrate in school first, and then see if software development is the career you want to choose
[19:01] <nhaines> True.   It was picking up the wrong source - internal mic instead of the better webcam's one
[19:05] <wxl> dpm: doh hahahah


[03:51] <evanlai> 大家好　，这里有使用emacs的兄弟么
[04:02] <Bardon> hi
[04:02] <ubrl> Bardon:点点点.  12:02
[04:02] <Bardon> ubrl: ...
[04:02] <ubrl> Bardon, 休息一下..  12:02
[04:22] <Bardon> 还有哪里有好玩的聊天室
[09:31] <django_> hey
[09:31] <django_> anyone speak english?
[09:36] <django_> 我是外国人。我住在中国。我想买电脑。可以更改BIOS设置为英文吗
[10:01] <alexxey> django_ It depends on the motherboard and its firmware
[10:04] <Bardon> exit
[10:04] <Bardon> ...
[10:29] <django_> alexxey, ooo thanks
[10:38] <alexxey> django_, in fact most computers I've owned in China since 2001 had their BIOS settings pages default in English. The exceptions are some recent UEFI motherboards
[10:38] <django_> oooo sounds good
[10:39] <django_> so maybe I wont have to worry?
[10:39] <django_> I dont have anything to worry about**


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[04:16] <goat|lappy> I'l like to see about modifying my unaffiliated cloaked account to an ubuntu cloaked account
[04:19] <nalioth> goat|lappy: care to identify to services?
[04:19] <goat|lappy> i just did
[04:19] <goat|lappy> to my main account
[04:20] <nalioth> do you have a launchpad page?
[04:20] <goat|lappy> yes, would you like it?
[04:20] <nalioth> it doesn't matter to me
[04:20] <nalioth> you're the one wanting the cloak
[04:20] <goat|lappy> right, i wondered if it was needed to assign the cloak
[04:23] <goat|lappy> should there be a specific person to direct my request? or just await response
[04:23] <nalioth> goat|lappy: you're talking to me
[04:25] <nalioth> goat|lappy: do you have a launchpad page?
[04:25] <goat|lappy> nalioth: ~musikgoat
[04:25] <goat|lappy> nalioth: so yes
[04:26] <nalioth> ah yes
[04:26] <nalioth> !member
[04:26] <nalioth> come back when you've completed that step  :)
[04:26] <goat|lappy> k, thanks
[04:36] <goat|lappy> nalioth: can you tell me what the --key-id refers to?
[04:37] <nalioth> !gpg
[04:37] <goat|lappy> when i --list-keys i have a pub, a uid, and a sub
[04:38] <nalioth> your key id will be the 8 digit number after "pub'
[04:38] <nalioth> not all numbers
[04:38] <nalioth> A1B2C3D4 or something else
[04:38] <goat|lappy> ahh, after the 1024D,  thatsthe problem
[04:38] <goat|lappy> thx
[05:13] <goat|lappy> nalioth: i've done what you've asked
[05:27] <nalioth> goat|lappy: i don't think you've read that web page very well
[05:27] <nalioth> it takes a solid contribution to the Ubuntu community to become a member
[05:27] <goat|lappy> no?  support in the forums and comments and bug reports are not substantial enough?
[05:28] <goat|lappy> it seemed from the reading that becoming an ubuntero seemed to be enough
[05:34] <nalioth> goat|lappy: the trail to Ubuntu membership is on that page
[05:35] <nalioth> if you feel you are up for it, you can read the page and find out how to go about it
[05:37] <goat|lappy> i see the additional information that i missed,  i will work on that and move further from there.  thanks nalioth
[09:34]  * Mirv wonders about the 31 Oct 15:04 < jussi01> nalioth: PriceChild elkbuntu LjL ^^
[09:35] <Myrtti> [10:08] <+Myrtti> PriceChild, nalioth: have you recently checked people waiting to be  cloaked with member cloak? atleast my boss seems to be waiting for  his cloak at -irc
[09:35] <Myrtti> :-D
[09:35] <Mirv> ok missed that one :)
[09:35] <Myrtti> was at #ubuntu-ops :-P
[09:39] <elkbuntu> Mirv, all i can do is nod for the staffers in the list.
[09:39] <Mirv> yep I've zero hurry, just curious
[09:40]  * Myrtti pokes PriceChild, with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[09:40] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[09:40] <Myrtti> damn.
[09:40] <Myrtti> my aliases need tlc
[09:47] <Nafallo> the lumberjack clown?
[09:49]  * Myrtti slaps Nafallo with a sour herring
[09:50] <Myrtti> tender loving care
[09:51] <Nafallo> ah
[09:51] <Myrtti> Nafallo: oh, oh, did you see this one already? http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2990374672/
[09:51] <Myrtti> ♥
[09:51] <Nafallo> actually thought you misspelled TCL first :-P
[09:52] <Nafallo> Myrtti: ehrm. no. what is it about? I have more keys than that ;-)
[09:52] <Myrtti> the pink one ♥
[09:52] <Nafallo> scary, yes.
[09:53] <Myrtti> he also made me a bookmarklet for creating quickresponse 2D barcodes with url's :-D
[09:53] <Myrtti> makes installing software to N95 easier
[09:53] <Myrtti> of course he has made the extension for firefox, but I don't use firefox so I needed the bookmarklet
[09:54] <Myrtti> you might actually like the extension
[09:54] <Myrtti> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2780
[15:27] <adeola0405> hello
[15:27] <erUSUL> hi
[15:27] <adeola0405> this is my first time doing this irc thing
[15:27] <adeola0405> i 'm new to ubuntu
[15:28] <erUSUL> adeola0405: wellcome!
[15:28] <adeola0405> and trying to get the concept of installing packages from tar files
[15:28] <erUSUL> adeola0405: but you should /join #ubuntu
[15:28] <adeola0405> didn't find it
[15:28] <nalioth> adeola0405: and don't install anything from a tar file :(
[15:28] <erUSUL> adeola0405: this is not the support channel. This channel is for operators of Local channels
[15:29]  * Myrtti pokes nalioth with The Pink Fluffy Pen of Poking™
[15:29] <Myrtti> *SQUEEEAK*
[15:29]  * nalioth giggles and wonders why the poke . .
[15:30] <adeola0405> thanks
[15:31] <Myrtti> nalioth: Mirv and @ubuntu/member/mirv; https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki
[15:34] <nalioth> Myrtti: /whois him and see if it's ok  :)
[15:34] <Myrtti> nalioth: looks nice ♥
[15:35]  * Myrtti huggles her team boss
[15:36] <nalioth> anyone else need sorting?
[17:20] <jcastro> Anyone going to be around at the top of the hour? I would like to step out for lunch and was wondering if someone could handle changing the topics in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat for the next session.
[17:40] <Mirv> nalioth: thanks! :)


[06:23] <mwhudson> er, hm? system monitor is showing me that i'm download at like 1 byte/sec
[06:23] <mwhudson> (i'm not, i'm downloading package updates at a few MiB/s)
[06:29] <mwhudson> (focal)
[06:32] <mwhudson> oh heh two bugs on this already
[06:38] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:38] <oSoMoN> happy Friday!
[06:48] <mwhudson> uhhh https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-system-monitor/commit/bb494d6e06f134bc538d732d0ca6dea263becf22
[06:49] <mwhudson> what are the units g_get_monotonic_time () works in? i don't think it's seconds...
[06:52] <didrocks> good morning
[06:52] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:52] <oSoMoN> hey mwhudson
[06:53] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:54] <mwhudson> oSoMoN: hi
[06:54] <mwhudson> oSoMoN: feels like it must be time for a rustc update soon....
[06:55] <oSoMoN> mwhudson, indeed, but mozilla haven't bumped the build dep for beta yet
[06:55] <oSoMoN> I guess if you start on the update now it won't hurt, if you feel like it
[06:56] <mwhudson> well if i didn't have 1 million other things to do before focal...
[06:56] <mwhudson> i guess i can see if it's going to be an easy one
[07:05] <mwhudson> first gnome patch: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-system-monitor/merge_requests/16
[07:05] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 16 in gnome-system-monitor "Fix displayed network transfer rates" [Opened]
[07:28] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, didrocks
[07:29] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:41] <duflu> Morning mwhudson
[07:41] <duflu> BTW, that will get truncated unless one of the variables is already a float... (time - graph->net.time) / G_USEC_PER_SEC;
[07:42] <mwhudson> duflu: oh good point
[07:43] <mwhudson> (spot the person who hasn't done c/c++ in an eon)
[07:44]  * mwhudson quickly force pushes a fix
[07:48] <Mirv> Good morning.. I asked on #ubuntu-devel earlier this week and didn't get a reply, but I'd like to once more raise eyebrow aloud (..) about the fact that the 'current' daily-live desktop image is one month old now, 20200124. I'd mostly want to know it's on the radar and a bit curious about what's causing it for so many weeks.
[07:49] <Mirv> I've installed from newer daily-live successfully.
[07:50] <duflu> Mirv: Not sure, but I was wondering. jibel will know
[07:50] <duflu> Also good morning
[07:53] <jibel> Hi Mirv, smoke tests have been broken since the removal of python2. I'll promote latest build manually
[07:57] <Mirv> jibel: thank you, I think that makes sense!
[07:57] <Mirv> and good afternoon duflu
[07:58] <jibel> Mirv, done, 20200220 is in current
[08:02] <duflu> ❤ jibel
[08:03] <Mirv> jibel: confirming, thank you!
[08:03] <duflu> 20200220 isn't a confusing date at all
[08:06] <ricotz> hey desktoppers :)
[08:06] <ricotz> oSoMoN, mwhudson, hi, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1615003
[08:07] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[08:08] <ricotz> duflu, hey
[08:52] <marcustomlinson> morning all
[09:02] <Laney> heya
[09:08] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson and Laney
[09:10] <Laney> salut duflu
[09:11] <Laney> salutflu
[09:12] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz! that's a timely one, considering mwhudson was asking about it just before you joined :)
[09:12] <oSoMoN> I'll file the usual bug to track it in ubuntu
[09:12] <oSoMoN> sup Laney, marcustomlinson
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> I've just officially sponsored my first upload :)
[09:25] <oSoMoN> ricotz, mwhudson: bug #1864174
[09:25] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, congrats!
[09:27] <Laney> moin oSoMoN marcustomlinson
[09:39] <oSoMoN> mpt, can I have your opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/software-properties/+git/software-properties/+merge/379345 ?
[09:39] <oSoMoN> In short: if a user hand-edited their sources.list and left it in a inconsistent state (where e.g. they disabled main for the release pocket), software-properties doesn't do a good job of fixing this, and the updates subscriptions combobox will select the "Custom" entry but won't let the user actually change it to something else. Is this really a use-case we want to handle? I was thinking maybe we could just make the combobox insensitive in such ca
[09:39] <oSoMoN> ses.
[10:21] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[10:37] <tkamppeter> Any core-dev around? robert_ancell has uploaded my SANE update for me (bug 1862926) but it FTBFS, I have found the problem and added a fix to the bug, also as debdiff. Can someone upload for me? It is only some missing Build-Depends: in debian/control.
[10:49] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress
[10:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, great, thanks
[11:13] <Laney> tseliot: hey, any chance you can push ubuntu-drivers <IP_ADDRESS> please?
[11:13] <Laney> I just rebased my branch and it still ended up with a lower version than focal /o\
[11:13] <Laney> btw, going to be proposing that soon, probably early next week
[11:20]  * Laney is just trying to bend ubiquity into not removing the oem-*-meta packages
[11:23] <Laney> would be good if you could install multiple times from the same live session
[11:23]  * Laney wonders if didrocks or jibel have any tricks for making that work
[11:24] <tseliot> Laney, pushed. Sorry, but I've been dealing with too many things
[11:25] <didrocks> Laney: installing multiple times from the same live session (or with a mock system) is a dream I wish we could have (or someone assigned to this). That will indeed really speed up dev
[11:26] <didrocks> what we did was vm snapshot + revert
[11:26] <Laney> I just restart the VM
[11:26] <Laney> but it's annoying to have to re-patch ubiquity and everything each time
[11:26] <Laney> AH well
[11:26] <didrocks> yeah, hence reverting helps and you can only scp the new files
[11:26] <didrocks> (a little bit less bothering than repatching everything)
[11:26] <didrocks> (a little)
[11:27] <Laney> heh
[11:27] <Laney> yeah probably is better
[13:26] <Laney> didrocks: I just uploaded oem-qemu-meta to the new queue, would be nice if you could review it and ideally accept to main, package itself is super trivial
[13:26] <Laney> that'll be the base package for that script you asked for
[13:26] <Laney> we need at least one of these on the iso now to be able to go on with the installer work
[13:30] <didrocks> Laney: sure, let me have a quick look
[13:31] <Laney> thx
[13:31]  * Laney pops out to the shops
[13:31] <didrocks> Laney: the pocket name is expected?
[13:31] <didrocks> focal-qemu
[13:32] <didrocks> no trailing comma on the binary package dep, /me is sad :p
[13:49]  * oSoMoN sends didrocks a trailing comma,
[13:49]  * didrocks feels better,
[13:49] <didrocks> :)
[14:01] <marcustomlinson> hmm, I uploaded libreoffice to eoan like 5 hours ago, and still nothing in unapproved
[14:02] <marcustomlinson> no email ack either
[14:04] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, ask on #launchpad, it's happened to me a couple of times in the past, and when it did re-uploading (dput -f) did the trick
[14:05] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: thanks I'll try a -f
[15:09] <Laney> didrocks: sorry, got caught out in a windy storm!
[15:09] <Laney> yeah, they are going to fix that soon™™™©®
[15:15] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: I didn't debsign it (facepalm)
[15:26] <marcustomlinson> let's try that again... I just officially sponsored my first upload! (like for reals this time)
[15:35] <Laney> marcustomlinson: use dput-ng, it will call debsign for you if it needs to :-)
[15:35]  * Laney never manually signs stuff any more
[15:35] <marcustomlinson> Laney: mind blown
[15:35] <marcustomlinson> thanks :)
[15:37]  * RikMills goes looking for dput-ng
[18:04] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end desktoppers
[18:08] <marcustomlinson> cheers oSoMoN!
[18:09] <marcustomlinson> oh he’s already gone :P
[18:09] <marcustomlinson> and now so am I, byyyyye


[00:12] <robert_ancell> kgunn, hii
[10:30] <alan_g> Any reviewer for https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/nested-server-uses-host-graphics-platform/+merge/281886?
[12:08] <greyback> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14477402/ <- think my libraries are mismatched?
[12:09] <greyback> yeah, I've mix of 17 & 18 somehow
[12:09] <greyback> I must've been naughty again
[17:23] <alan_g> kdub: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1532202/comments/12 - before I dive into the android platform do you any pointers or thoughts?
[17:28] <kdub> alan_g, maybe check if the code is waiting the hwc_fallback_gl_renderer aronud the texture loading
[17:28] <kdub> or in the ipc platform before the buffer is sent back over ipc
[17:29]  * alan_g ducks as words whoosh over his head
[17:31] <kdub> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/src/platforms/android/server/hwc_fallback_gl_renderer.cpp#L134
[17:32] <hroo772> quick question about mir. Has it been made the default graphics server in 16.04?
[17:33] <alan_g> no
[17:34] <hroo772> thanks. Were there any major graphics changes between 15.10 and 16.04? I've had some odd issues with an older nvidia chip crashing after the login screen. Haven't gotten logs just yet
[17:35] <hroo772> it seemed like xorg fallback didn't seem to work properly and after the crash, it just gets sent back to the login screen
[21:11] <josharenson> So I was complaining that I couldn't get the greeter to run as a mir server... the real issue is with mir-platform-input-evdev4... Just by installing that package (and not attempting to run the greeter as a mir server), my system won't even boot.
[21:12] <josharenson> The only error I see is re: bluetooth (making a pastebin)
[21:16] <josharenson> the bt part looks possibly unrelated, but still wondering why the package is breaking my system
[21:21] <anpok_> josharenson: but that package should just be available..
[21:21] <anpok_> i mean it is required by usc
[21:21] <anpok_> indirectly due to the driver packages..
[21:31] <josharenson> anpok_: can you clarify? it _shouldn't_ be installed?
[21:36] <anpok_> it should be installed..assuming you are on rc-proposed..
[21:36] <anpok_> but why would you install it in isolation?
[21:40] <josharenson> anpok_: this is on xenial desktop and it doesnt look like anything else installed it
[21:40] <josharenson> anpok_: and w/o it mir complains that there is no input devices
[21:43] <anpok_> hmm odd .. mir-graphivs-drivers-desktop should require it
[21:43] <anpok_> *graphics
[21:44] <anpok_> it just means it starts up further and then halts for other reasons..
[21:44] <josharenson> anpok_: havent done a dist upgrade in a few days, let me see what the result of that is too