[03:55] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:04] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco
[04:04] <Madpilot> following the latest goofiness on the forum?
[04:20] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:20] <jsgotangco> wiki stuff
[04:20] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:21] <jsgotangco> i'll look at it again later
[04:21] <jsgotangco> maybe something constructive will happen or maybe not
[04:21] <jsgotangco> :)
[04:21] <jsgotangco> foss is hard
[04:21] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:22] <jsgotangco> bbl
[05:08] <Angel> hello from venezuela
[05:09] <Angel> Iam a recently new user of ubuntu
[05:09] <Angel> I say hello
[07:33] <Kinnison> night all
[07:43] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: what's that?
[07:43] <Burgundavia> highvoltage, you read planet.g and planet.k?
[07:43] <highvoltage> sometimes, let me check now...
[07:45] <rob1> hmm
[07:45] <rob1> anyone know much about xmllint?
[07:45] <Burgundavia> I have heard it is great for toejam...
[07:46] <rob1> my xincludes all work fine when building with xsltproc, but xmllint complains when I try to vaildate individual documents
[07:47] <highvoltage> geepers. people seem to be getting more tense.
[07:47] <rob1> I'm pretty sure I'm suppose to tell xmllint something, but what I'm not sure..
[07:47] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: could you add the edubuntu-doc team to the ubuntu doc team on launchpad?
[07:48] <Burgundavia> highvoltage, hmm, I think I can figure out how to do taht
[07:48] <Burgundavia> with LP I just need to click on enough things enough times and it happens
[07:51] <Burgundavia> highvoltage, I think you have to propose the team to be a member of ubuntu-doc so I can approve it
[07:51] <highvoltage> hehe! you figured that out too?
[07:51] <highvoltage> ok, i'll try that.
[07:51] <Burgundavia> we had some good discussions at ubz about LP and some of the annoying bugs
[07:52] <Burgundavia> sadly no forward movement, but I missed the LP stuff which wraps up today or tomorrow
[07:52] <highvoltage> i think once they've gotten the dapper ball moving, there will be some more focus on launchpad.
[07:52] <highvoltage> i think jordi has been away too?
[07:53] <Burgundavia> the main blocker is da big boss, from what I understand
[07:54] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: i just did it the other way rount (added ubuntu-doc to edubuntu-doc)
[07:54] <highvoltage> i'll remove it now.
[07:54] <Burgundavia> how did you do that?
[07:55] <highvoltage> what you do is, click on add member, and then just type edubuntu-doc as the member name.
[07:56] <Burgundavia> hmm, I don't get that
[07:57] <Burgundavia> oh, wait, bloody hell
[07:57] <Burgundavia> done
[07:58] <highvoltage> hehe :) more launchpad ui-bugginess.
[07:58] <highvoltage> we're just going to get used to how it works then they're going to fix it.
[07:58] <highvoltage> ah, thanks.
[07:59] <Burgundavia> if you file bugs on it, they usually get answered
[08:01] <Burgundavia> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/4178
[01:19] <mdke> hello
[01:24] <rob1> hi mdke
[01:25] <highvoltage> hi
[01:25] <rob1> grr @ olinks
[01:26] <mdke> :)
[01:26] <rob1> I got them working, except one I just did refuses to play ball
[01:49] <rob1> man #docbook is going off..
[01:49] <rob1> not
[01:52] <mdke> lol
[03:13] <jjesse> did i try and close that bug wrong?
[03:16] <mdke> jjesse, which bug?
[03:16] <jjesse> the one about backports being up?
[03:16] <mdke> you mean 18761?
[03:16] <mdke> or 17955
[03:16] <jjesse> yeah, the desktop guide is accurate as far as i can see according to the announcement
[03:16] <jjesse> 18761
[03:17] <mdke> the point is that we will need to fix the bug for dapper
[03:17] <mdke> by documenting that backports will not be ready immediately
[03:18] <mdke> follow me?
[03:19] <jjesse> ah i understand now
[03:19] <jjesse> i thought that since it was accurate now I would cloes the bug i reported :)
[03:20] <mdke> :)
[03:30] <rob1> hmm
[03:31] <mdke> having fun rob1 ?
[03:33] <jjesse> rob1: did you have to change your username from rob~ or something like that
[03:40] <rob1> mdke, yeah heh
[03:40] <rob1> jjesse, so I could get the hostmask
[03:40] <rob1> otherwise I would have to have -caret appended to it
[03:41] <jjesse> ah
[03:41] <rob1> I've got some of the olinks working in the desktop guide, there is one that refuses to work though
[03:42] <rob1> I have no idea why
[04:14] <mdke> hello there SteveMyers
[04:22] <SteveMyers> :)
[04:23] <SteveMyers> Who's this?
[04:26] <mdke> my name is matt
[04:29] <rob1> good night
[04:29] <mdke> night rob1
[04:30] <jjesse> night rob1
[05:01] <SteveMyers> sorry for the late reply back
[05:01] <SteveMyers> Matthew East..Matthew Galvin?
[05:02] <SteveMyers> Matt Galvin*
[05:08] <mdke> SteveMyers, I am Matthew East (you can see who people are by doing the command /whois nickname)
[05:08] <SteveMyers> ah ok ty :)
[05:09] <jsgotangco> mdke: i'd like to have a commit account for bhuvan that ok with you?
[05:10] <jsgotangco> mdke: also i'd like to propose that all those with commit accounts in our svn sign the coc in lp
[05:10] <jsgotangco> most importantly if they're already a member of the team
[05:10] <mdke> jsgotangco, i approve of giving him access, but we need to work out how we're going to deal with it. I would suggest dealing with new members at team meetings
[05:11] <mdke> +1 on the coc
[05:11] <jsgotangco> mdke: right, we can discuss that next week, anyways, bhuvan has earned the right so it'll be a breeze for him
[05:12] <jsgotangco> don't how how it applies to the wiki team though
[05:14] <mdke> jsgotangco, absolutely, he is a good new addition
[05:35] <jjesse> i vote for bhuvan to have comitt as well :)
[05:35] <jjesse> and +1 for the CoC
[05:38] <jsgotangco> would it be too harsh if i deactivate those in lp who don't sign the coc in the near future? I'd assume not signing the coc upon request would mean 1) no interest contributing anymore 2) no  interest in such...
[05:45] <mdke> sure
[05:45] <mdke> deactivating someone is no big deal right now, because no perms attach
[05:46] <highvoltage> it would be cool if the team owner could specify a deadline for that.
[05:46] <highvoltage> i think two weeks or so would be very reasonable.
[05:46] <highvoltage> although, many people have problems understanding gpg keys, etc. on the otherhand, there are millions of monkeys that can help on IRC.
[05:46] <highvoltage> am I just blabbering again.
[05:47] <mdke> lol
[06:26] <bhuvan> i'm making additions to admin guide. any preferred mail server
[06:26] <bhuvan> ??
[06:26] <bhuvan> i'm planning to mention about exim4 because it's simple and easy to maintain
[06:27] <mdke> please, not admin guide, server guide :)
[06:27] <bhuvan> no, i meant admin guide
[06:28] <mdke> but...
[06:28] <mdke> the admin guide is not being developed
[06:28] <bhuvan> as server guide spec is not finalized, i'm contributing to incomplete admin guide
[06:28] <bhuvan> :)
[06:28] <mdke> it is kinda redundant now we are working on the desktop guide and server guide
[06:28] <mdke> ah
[06:28] <bhuvan> ok, we may ditch admin guide ?
[06:28] <mdke> i don't think we will want to release the admin guide with dapper
[06:28] <mdke> it will cause confusion
[06:29] <bhuvan> true, i'll move it off to server guide then
[06:30] <mdke> rocking
[06:30] <mdke> bhuvan, about your question, does ubuntu have a default mail server? isn't it postfix?
[06:30] <mdke> if not, use your judgment and go with whichever you think is better
[06:31] <bhuvan> cool. not sure whether it's postfix/exim4. i can check
[06:31] <mdke> ask in -devel
[06:31] <bhuvan> but when we speak about server guide, we need not necessarily strick to default services, right ?
[06:31] <mdke> asks
[06:32] <mdke> bhuvan, no, i don't think we have to. You can document more than one mail server if you have time ;)
[06:32] <bhuvan> ok
[06:34] <mdke> bhuvan, the general message seems to be that postfix is kinda the default, because it was seeded in previous ubuntu releases
[06:35] <bhuvan> ok
[06:37] <mdke> bhuvan, perhaps we should avoid exim4 because it is in universe afaics
[06:37] <mdke> postfix is in main
[06:38] <mdke> sendmail is in universe
[06:38] <bhuvan> ok
[06:38] <mdke> i think we should try and stick to main for the server guide if we can
[06:38] <bhuvan> yeah, correct
[06:38] <mdke> is postfix included in ubuntu-server?
[06:43] <mdke> probably
[06:50] <bhuvan> not sure. but it's mentioned mail server is included in ubuntu-server announce email. so probably it must be postfix
[06:57] <bhuvan> good night
[07:26] <LaserJock> mdke: pint?
[07:26] <LaserJock> ping rather
[07:27] <Madpilot> "pint" sounds more interesting :P
[07:27] <LaserJock> lol, yeah
[07:41] <jjesse> too bad it isn't time for a pint
[07:52] <LaserJock> have you guys seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperDocumentation ?
[08:18] <LaserJock> mdke_: I need to talk to you, got a minute?
[09:17] <mdke_> LaserJock, shoot
[09:19] <LaserJock> mdke_: I was talking to dholbach and he pointed out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperDocumentation
[09:19] <LaserJock> I was going to work on Ubuntu Packaging Guide, but I'm not sure if that would be a duplication of work
[09:20] <mdke> LaserJock, i don't know. I heard the packaging guide was already written
[09:20] <mdke> who is working on that spec?
[09:20] <LaserJock> mdke: well, I don't know. Unfgiven was supposed to send either me or you guys his work but I haven't heard from him for a while
[09:21] <mdke> perhaps contact the assignee of the spec?
[09:21] <LaserJock> mdke: not sure about the spec
[09:21] <mdke> what do you mean?
[09:21] <LaserJock> who is working on it
[09:22] <mdke> well look at the spec
[09:22] <LaserJock> ok, so Ian Jackson is the assignee
[09:22] <mdke> Diziet is working on it
[09:22] <mdke> yeah
[09:24] <LaserJock> the only problem is that the spec says that they are basicly going to replace all references of Debian with Ubuntu in the Debian Developer Reference
[09:24] <LaserJock> I'm not sure if that is the only documentation we want, but I don't know
[09:25] <mdke> perhaps you can discuss it with Ian
[09:25] <LaserJock> ok
[09:31] <LaserJock> mdke: have you seen the packaging guide that Unfgiven did?
[09:33] <mdke> LaserJock, no
[09:34] <mdke> LaserJock, if one is written already, definitely show it to ian so that whoever works on that spec doesn't have to duplicate work
[09:39] <LaserJock> mdke: that's the problem, I've never seen it so I don't even know what info its got
[09:41] <mdke> best get in touch with him then too :)
[09:46] <LaserJock> well, I have emailed him and he said that he would have it soon, but I haven't heard from him for a while
[09:46] <LaserJock> and he has been ~8 days idle on irc
[09:55] <mdke> hmm
[09:55] <mdke> i don't think I can help much
[09:57] <LaserJock> I think mostly dholbach wanted you guys to be aware of  the DeveloperDocumentation spec
[09:58] <LaserJock> I was unsure of what I should do
[09:59] <LaserJock> I think I will talk to Diziet and see if I can help there and wait to see what Unfrgiven has, and in the mean time I am working on MOTU wiki so I will have plenty to do
[09:59] <mdke> cool, good plan
[10:35] <LaserJock> what is CategoryCleanup ?
[10:35] <Madpilot> stuff that needs cleaning up
[10:35] <LaserJock> in what way?
[10:36] <Madpilot> various things
[10:36] <Madpilot> sometimes just editing - grammar, formatting, typo hunting
[10:36] <LaserJock> ok, so kind of a general wiki todo list?
[10:36] <Madpilot> sometimes needs complete re-writing
[10:36] <Madpilot> some of the stuff in Cleanup does not follow Ubuntu's best practices, ie encouraging sudo & GUI tools, that sort of thing
[10:39] <Madpilot> got to go - LaserJock, if you've got questions about CatCleanup, you can ask on the mailing list if there's no-one here
[10:39] <LaserJock> k, thanks
[11:31] <mdke> rob1, around/awake?


[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[11:24] <lool> Hmm "X" returns with 0 with hardy images; sudo Xorg works, but startx and xinit fail with "xinit: Server error."
[11:25] <StevenK> Neat.
[11:42] <lool> Blah, the modules are simply missing
[11:42] <lool> It's using i965 and the kernel's drm, and I'm missing psb
[11:42] <lool> I wonder why, I'm using the lpiacompat version of the kernel which I thought was the correct one for the q1
[11:43] <StevenK> I thought so too.
[11:43] <StevenK> I thought psb was for the Paulsbo
[11:44] <lool> Oh the builds are using BOTH
[11:44] <lool> linux-image-2.6.22-14-lpia	2.6.22-14.46
[11:44] <lool> linux-image-2.6.22-14-lpiacompat	2.6.22-14.46
[11:44] <lool> (<http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/moblin-build-logs/gutsy/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/latest/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull-20071118.log>)
[11:46] <lool> Too bad Amit isn't around
[14:16] <guardian> StevenK: hi, is there a way to participate in the hildon input method discussions ?
[14:16] <lool> Blah /etc/X11/X is a symlink to /bin/true for some reason
[18:06] <Profanephobia> so how goes the project?
[18:40] <mdz> Profanephobia: busily
[18:40] <mdz> there is a lot to do
[18:40] <Profanephobia> mdz, how close to launch?
[18:43] <mdz> Profanephobia: there are alpha builds available now, a "1.0" release is still some months away
[18:48] <Profanephobia> mdz, what phone would you recommend.. right now i have a BB Pearl and I doubt its compatible


[20:19] <astrmix> russia?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> seeker83  you have to ecover all and then see what you need
[20:20] <yahya> from lsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14941658/
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:20] <alphonse> I'm using ubuntu mate on raspberry pi :))
[20:20] <k1l> astrmix: you were told that #ubuntu-ru is the russian channel several times today.
[20:20] <JGraves> I want one of those ...
[20:21] <JGraves> Looks like you can do all sorts of cool stuff with them.
[20:22] <javabum> MSG alina-f HI!
[20:23] <squinty> dontknow,  <yahya> from lsblk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14941658/
[20:24] <dontknow> yahya, i guess it doesn't see logical volumes
[20:27] <welovfree> how can I archive a file whit bzip?
[20:28] <tsp`> bzip compresses files, not archive
[20:28] <tsp`> if you want to compress a file with bzip2, you can use this in console: bzip2 file
[20:29] <tsp`> bzip2 -9 file # yields maximum compression
[20:29] <welovfree> tsp`, what about a folder?
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> welovfree  in a terminal, type   man bzip2
[20:29] <tsp`> then you'll have to turn it into a file first (typically with tar)
[20:29] <tsp`> for instance
[20:29] <llutz> welovfree: tar cjf file.tar.bz2 folder/
[20:29] <tsp`> tar -cf folder.tar folder/
[20:29] <tsp`> and then
[20:29] <tsp`> bzip2 -9 folder.tar
[20:29] <tsp`> now you have folder.tar.bz2
[20:30] <tsp`> tar -c folder |bzip -9 >folder.tar.bz2 # if you like one-linders :P
[20:32] <Dro> do you think this can be PPA can be safe/trusted ? ==> paolorotolo/android-studio
[20:32] <Dro> do you think this PPA can be safe/trusted ? ==> paolorotolo/android-studio
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> Dro  ask the maintainer
[20:35] <cedric_> Dro install android studio with ubuntu make
[20:35] <DaMastah> Hi guys :) Performance-wise, is it better to setup an iSCSI target with 4096 max send segment bytes or 262144 (default is 4096) ?
[20:35] <yahya> dontknow, is there anything I can do?
[20:38] <dontknow> yahya, i can't help sorry
[20:43] <adac> Guys I used to switch the Desktops via ctrl alt and left/right but now when I do that I suddently get a command line prompt from which I have to switch back into graphical mode with f7
[20:43] <adac> any ideas what happened?
[20:44] <yahya> dontknow, ok thanks for your help so far
[20:51] <scrooge> oO
[20:51] <Guest26835> oO
[20:52] <oliver__> o/
[21:14] <netameta> What name of ubuntu 14.04
[21:14] <k1l> !14.04 | netameta
[21:14] <netameta> wheezy ?
[21:14] <tsp`> wheezy is a debian release
[21:14] <harry_> Hello. I am having trouble understanding the relationship between network-manager and wpa_supplicant. Whenever I only use wpa_supplicant to connect to my wireless it works, but the moment I use network-manager nothing works. I only get repeatedly password questions. Anyone?
[21:15] <DaMastah> !16.04
[21:21] <SahibPrime> Hi. I am currently running Ubuntu 15.10 on a 25 GB ext4 partition.
[21:21] <SahibPrime> However, I want to use the full extent of my harddisk, so I want to resize it to 200 GB.
[21:21] <SahibPrime> Is this possible?
[21:21] <k1l> SahibPrime: yes. boot an ubuntu usb pendrive and use gparted
[21:21] <squinty> !gparted
[21:22] <SahibPrime> Will it affect my system in any way?
[21:22] <Fett5959> hello
[21:22] <k1l> SahibPrime: what do you mean?
[21:22] <SchrodingersScat> !backup | SahibPrime
[21:22] <SahibPrime> Will it result in data loss, or will files be moved around?
[21:22] <SchrodingersScat> It shouldn't, but you can never be too careful.
[21:23] <squinty> SahibPrime,  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[21:23] <k1l> SahibPrime: it will move the files around. but make backups because everything can go wrong when you touch partitions
[21:23] <OerHeks> if you have no backup, your data is not important.
[21:23] <netameta> How do i check my ubuntu version ?
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> netameta  cat /etc/issue
[21:24] <k1l> netameta: "lsb_release -d"
[21:24] <SahibPrime> netameta: I think it displays in System Settings. You can also CTRL+ALT+F1 to access the terminal
[21:24] <SahibPrime> from there, login, it will tell you the version
[21:24] <netameta> Thanks very much
[21:24] <SahibPrime> Then you can press CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to the desktop
[21:25] <OerHeks> update it, in terminal, then you see updated or outdated ubuntu version
[21:27] <SahibPrime> ext4 vs. ext3
[21:27] <k1l> ext4
[21:29] <Bashing-om> SahibPrime: Where 'ext4' that 4 represents the 4th generation .
[21:34] <liefde> hello all
[21:35] <liefde> irc of back in the days
[21:35] <SchrodingersScat> irc never went away
[21:35] <liefde> i know
[21:35] <liefde> but i mean its the first thing
[21:35] <SchrodingersScat> !support
[21:35] <liefde> is it big brother proof?
[21:36] <SchrodingersScat> !offtopic | liefde not at all, why would you think it is?
[21:36] <liefde> im not sure. i mean nowadays. kik whatsapp and all that
[21:36] <liefde> i just wanna talk without big brother watching me
[21:37] <k1l> liefde: we focus on actual technical ubuntu support in here. see the offtopic channel for chatting.
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> then an official, publicly logged support channel probably isn't the place for you
[21:38] <liefde> its no issue really. but i just rather have more privacy
[21:38] <liefde> oh sorry
[21:38] <ddssx> the funny nigger keeps talking can someone shut them up? pall wall? help!
[21:38] <liefde> i thought it was just a chat
[21:38] <liefde> excuse me
[21:38] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | ddssx
[21:38] <liefde> ddssx those are foul words btw im white
[21:39] <k1l> dont mind the trolls :)
[21:39] <liefde> ok trolls lol they are everywhere nowadays
[21:41] <bprompt> liefde:  you may want to rethink what you may need or want, as a matter of society, in a society, a level of disclosure is necessary or knowledge of information is needed in order for services to be provided effectively, that has been true since ever, even before computer networking, now, if you mind that, then you may want to reconsideer if society works for you
[21:42] <k1l> bprompt: same goes for you, regarding offtopic
[21:54] <dougl> is anyone else having issues playing videos on youtube?
[21:56] <bprompt> dougl:   now and then the site has been down for me, that has happened in the last week or so only, but that's about it
[21:59] <Madhumper69> i have a .vdi ubuntu image and was wondering if it is possible to convert to raw form so i can dual boot?
[21:59] <wafflejock> dougl: http://downdetector.com/status/youtube seems okay here but this site is nice to see where people are reporting outages
[22:01] <wafflejock> dougl: might want to checkout some speed test sites/tools too to see if it's just your connectivity since it doesn't seem there's a lot of outages reported with YouTube right now, I imagine they have a lot of fallbacks and redundancy in place, but even the big guys have issues sometimes
[22:02] <dougl> thanks wafflejock bprompt it is my machines osx and kubuntu but it works on the windblowz machine
[22:03] <wafflejock> Madhumper69: never really tried this but some instructions here that might possibly work https://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/convert-vm-iso if you don't have a lot configured on the box probably easier to backup your /etc/ config that you care about and just do a fresh install for the dual boot setup
[22:04] <wafflejock> Madhumper69: in either case you'll have to configure the bootloader and some other things anyhow and probably easier to not have to do that with an image you pulled from VB
[22:04] <squinty> Madhumper69,  just in case you are not aware, there is a virtualbox channel here on freenode called #vbox
[22:05] <Madhumper69> thanks waffles and squinty :P
[22:06] <wafflejock> dougl: wonder if maybe it has something to do with it using HTML5 video on Kubuntu or OS X vs using the Flash player still on Windows, not sure if that's the case but maybe something to check, perhaps the servers in your area are having trouble with one but not the other
[22:08] <wafflejock> dougl: if you right click on the video you should be able to see if it's the html5 or flash player but would also be good to just do some regular speed tests in each to see if it's a general connectivity problem or just a YouTube thing so you're not barking up the wrong tree
[22:24] <Megabyte> Hello
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Megabyte: Welcome, got a question?
[22:27] <Megabyte> SonikkuAmerica, Yes
[22:27] <netameta> How can i run qt-creator-enterprise-linux-x86_64-3.6.0.run, ?
[22:27] <Megabyte> I need to redirect my clipboard from a program to another
[22:27] <Megabyte> How can I do that automatically?
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Megabyte: generally all clipboard viewers should have clipboard access
[22:29] <poldo79> quo vado
[22:29] <Superindieboy> test
[22:29] <poldo79> #quo vado
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> poldo79  what are you looking for?
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | poldo79
[22:38] <poldo79> addon
[22:40] <eldin> How to get net.core.somaxconn over 65535?
[22:41] <scrope> Hallo
[22:45] <knt-newb> Psssst.  Here is info of existing setup and exactly what I need to accomplish this. https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/d08edf9752460e4feae2
[22:57] <ninjai> I have 1 ext4 partition at the beginning of my disk and 1 swap partition at the end.  Is this a valid configuration for GRUB?  Grub crapped the bed on me and boot-repair says I need a 1mb partition at the beginning of my disk, however I'm using UEFI.  Is it still needed?
[22:57] <truexfan81> hmm
[22:57] <truexfan81> configure: error: Glib 2.32.0 or later is required to build megatools
[22:57] <truexfan81> ubuntu trusty server
[22:58] <knt-newb> ok, ... what is? and how do i access the "X" command prompt?
[22:58] <poldo79> #quo vado
[22:59] <truexfan81> megatools is in the debian unstable repos is there any way to get it on ubuntu? other than the compile that clearly wants to be a pain?
[23:00] <k1l> truexfan81: its included in ubuntu since 15.04. you could look out for a PPA for the 14.04
[23:00] <geirha> Wily has megatools, apparently. For trusty, you might be lucky and find a PPA for it
[23:00] <truexfan81> k1l: i need to use the program today
[23:01] <k1l> then look for a PPA today
[23:01] <truexfan81> without it i have to download the large file to my pc just to turn around and upload it to my dedi
[23:01] <Bashing-om> !uefi | ninjai Yes the boot partition is required with UEFI
[23:02] <geirha> knt-newb: That's quite vague, but probably refers to some terminal emulator..?
[23:02] <LambdaComplex> Well, it doesn't specifically need to be a 1mb partition at the beginning of the disk
[23:02] <LambdaComplex> That description honestly sounds more like the boot partition required in a GPT/BIOS setup
[23:02] <knt-newb> Geirha ... well i need alot of things explained , so im sorry
[23:02] <ninjai> can I just not boot in uefi mode somehow?
[23:03] <geirha> knt-newb: Maybe if you provide some context. Are you reading a book? a guide?
[23:04] <truexfan81> k1l: i see part of the problem after reading when i did apt-get update, its not using the official repos
[23:04] <truexfan81> Hit http://ubuntu.mirrors.ovh.net trusty/multiverse Translation-en_GB  etc
[23:04] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: Out of curiosity, what caused grub to stop working? Any idea?
[23:04] <ninjai> power outage
[23:05] <knt-newb> geirha ... from what i read its an underlying command prompt symilar to ms cmd prompt
[23:05] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: Also, you mentioned your ext4 partition and your swap partition...are those the only partitions you have at all?
[23:05] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: yes
[23:05] <stacks88> so i tried to apt-get autoremove but it wouldnt remove , said /tmp was full, or when i ran df -h it said overflow        1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /tmp what causes this ?
[23:06] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: Um...was that working before? Because there's no way for UEFI to work without an EFI System Partition
[23:06] <ninjai> I have no idea, but it was booted
[23:06] <it> hello guys
[23:06] <it> im having trouble installing ubuntu mate
[23:06] <ninjai> so what should I do here?  Create a 2mb partition at the beginning of the drive and apply the grub_boot flag to it and see if it boots?
[23:07] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: I don't think you're actually doing UEFI booting
[23:07] <it> when i click continue in installation, the button stays grey forever
[23:07] <geirha> knt-newb: the windows cmd prompt is both a terminal and a shell. In Unix and Unix-like systems, terminals and shells are completely separate programs
[23:07] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: I'm not sure.  I have a UEFI motherboard and if I pound F11 on boot I get a boot menu, if I select my SSD I just get a blinking cursor forever
[23:08] <knt-newb> can someone briefly explain what i might be missing . i cannot browse a local area network at home through my ethernet connection. (works in vista, on same machine) i think i might be missing the equivelent of "file and printer sharing"
[23:08] <squinty> !samba
[23:08] <knt-newb> geirha ... ok ty
[23:09] <geirha> knt-newb: So I'm still not sure what you are referring to in that regard
[23:09] <aubergine> Dear all, unfortunately I have accidentally flushed iptables on Ubuntu
[23:10] <aubergine> I had a rule saying "ACCEPT     udp  --  anywhere             anywhere             udp dpt:bootpc
[23:10] <aubergine> "
[23:10] <aubergine> how to reinsert it? Thank you :)
[23:11] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: i suppose chrooting in and using grub-install and update-grub could work
[23:11] <ninjai> I followed a guide with that once
[23:11] <ninjai> and it worked
[23:11] <ninjai> but for the life of me I can no longer find it
[23:11] <lunarmage> you just mount your drive to some dir
[23:11] <lunarmage> then do `chroot <said dir>`
[23:12] <lunarmage> and run grub-install as normal
[23:12] <LambdaComplex> lunarmage: would grub-install work without the mounts?
[23:12] <lunarmage> oh right I forgot abot that
[23:12] <ninjai> lunarmage: http://pastebin.com/cRtdBvui
[23:13] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: no it does not
[23:13] <LambdaComplex> i know lsblk doesn't at least
[23:13] <LambdaComplex> agh, i can never remember the mounts
[23:13] <LambdaComplex> brb lemme find the gentoo install guide
[23:13] <lunarmage> try mounting the /boot drive
[23:13] <ninjai> ah, this is the guide: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[23:13] <squinty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[23:13] <LambdaComplex> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Mounting_the_necessary_filesystems
[23:14] <LambdaComplex> i've always just used that. seems to work
[23:14] <aubergine> anyone?
[23:14] <stacks88> how would you find directories in /path that are specifically from the year 2014 ?
[23:15] <ninjai> any time I try grub-install I get this: grub-install.real: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
[23:15] <lunarmage> ls <dir> -lA | grep "<date>"
[23:15] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: wait, so you're doing GPT/BIOS?
[23:15] <lunarmage> in the format of <3 digit month> <day>
[23:16] <stacks88> i meant using find
[23:16] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: I have no idea.  help?
[23:16] <aubergine> I accidentally flushed my iptables
[23:16] <aubergine> the only rule I had was: ACCEPT     ump  --  anywhere             anywhere             ump dpt:bootpc
[23:16] <aubergine> how to reinsert it? Thanks
[23:17] <lunarmage> stacks88: `man find` doesn't tell me anything about year, only precise times
[23:18] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: Check `sudo fdisk -l` and see if the Disklabel type is "gpt" or "dos"
[23:18] <LambdaComplex> (could just do `sudo fdisk -l | grep Disklabel` if you want i guess)
[23:18] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted."
[23:19] <squinty> aubergine,  did you try using   iptables -h   in a terminal.
[23:19] <ninjai> system says GPT
[23:19] <LambdaComplex> Are you positive that it was booting before?
[23:20] <LambdaComplex> Because you're using GPT and yet you don't have any boot partition at all
[23:20] <aubergine> squinty I just need to reset the rule
[23:20] <LambdaComplex> As far as I know, that should be impossible
[23:20] <aubergine> I tried iptables -A ACCEPT ump  --  anywhere anywheremump dpt:biotic --------- but it did not work
[23:21] <skinux> Is anyone in here by chance familiar with using EasyBCD/NeoGrub to boot Ubuntu along-side Windows?
[23:21] <ninjai> LambdaComplex: yes it was booting.  How can I reconfigure this to boot again?  Create a boot partition at the beginning with gparted at the size of about 100mbit?
[23:21] <LambdaComplex> I've never heard of NeoGrub in my life
[23:21] <LambdaComplex> What is it and why would you use it in place of GRUB2?
[23:22] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: Really the first step is to check your bios and see if you're doing BIOS or UEFI booting. I'm assuming BIOS but find out for sure
[23:22] <ninjai> ok, and what difference does that make?
[23:22] <ninjai> I'm not really that informed of the differences between UEFI and BIOS booting on motherboards
[23:23] <LambdaComplex> UEFI requires a FAT32 partition
[23:23] <LambdaComplex> (the EFI System Partition)
[23:23] <LambdaComplex> BIOS does not; although GRUB does require a boot partition if you're doing GPT/BIOS
[23:24] <ninjai> ok so, assuming I'm doing UEFI booting then my partition layout is acceptable?
[23:24] <aubergine> I accidentally flushed my iptables
[23:24] <LambdaComplex> You said you only have 2 partitions? One's ext and the other is swap?
[23:24] <aubergine> the only rule I had was: ACCEPT     ump  --  anywhere             anywhere             ump dpt:bootpc
[23:24] <ninjai> yes
[23:24] <aubergine> how to reinsert it? Thanks
[23:24] <LambdaComplex> No, that won't work for UEFI
[23:25] <LambdaComplex> So if it was working before then it's not UEFI
[23:25] <aubergine> I accidentally flushed my iptables, the only rule I had was: ACCEPT     ump  --  anywhere  anywhere  ump  dpt:biotic, how to reinsert it? Thanks :)
[23:25] <squinty> aubergine,  think you have to run iptables-save  to make it stick  (not an expert on iptables though(
[23:25] <ninjai> ok, so maybe then it's trying to now boot as UEFI but my partitions are not ready for that?
[23:25] <aubergine> squinty iptables-restore does not work on my ubuntu (Azure VM limits)
[23:26] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: What were you doing when the power outage happened? Anything related to installing Ubuntu?
[23:26] <ninjai> I was out of town when it happened :)
[23:26] <ninjai> it was a running system when I left
[23:26] <LambdaComplex> I seriously don't even understand how a power outage could've caused this
[23:26] <ninjai> me neither
[23:27] <aubergine> I accidentally flushed my iptables, the only rule I had was: ACCEPT     ump  --  anywhere  anywhere  ump  dpt:biotic, how to reinsert it? Thanks :)
[23:27] <koan_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu to dual boot with Windows 10. When I get to the "where to install" part of the installation, windows isn't showing up. It says "We detected no other OS installed" or something similar. I think it has to do with MBR/GPT partition scheme? Most of that is above my head though. Anyone know what I should do?
[23:27] <ninjai> Maybe I magically booted it with some hackery (since I never shut of my computer) previously
[23:27] <ninjai> because I did do this chrooting business once before
[23:27] <LambdaComplex> Heck, at this point I'd honestly just say try putting a boot partition at the start and see if that works
[23:27] <ninjai> I'll reboot and check my UEFI/BIOS to see if I'm booting with it
[23:27] <LambdaComplex> aubergine: Please stop repeating yourself. We heard you the first time
[23:28] <ninjai> ok how big
[23:28] <ninjai> 100mbi?
[23:28] <LambdaComplex> Nah, like 1MB
[23:28] <ninjai> ok
[23:28] <ninjai> set the grub_boot flag?
[23:29] <LambdaComplex> aubergine: Querying me "fuck off" isn't going to help you any
[23:31] <koan_> Anyone have any idea for my issue?  I feel a bit awkward killing ffmpeg with top
[23:32] <ninjai> all right here goes
[23:32] <ninjai> 40 min remaining. lol
[23:32] <Haunt_House> I wrote it since the ffmpeg commands are too many to type every time
[23:32] <LambdaComplex> ninjai: 40 minutes?
[23:33] <Haunt_House> good luck, ninjai, whatever you do (:
[23:33] <ninjai> now it's an hour ETA
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> Haunt_House  the command is  gnome-terminal
[23:34] <Haunt_House> MonkeyDust: do I put it in a line before the ffmpeg call?
[23:34] <Haunt_House> hm, testing
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> Might have to use a flag for gnome-terminal
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> Check the man page
[23:35] <aubergine> -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 68 -j ACCEPT
[23:35] <aubergine> get back to Windows guys
[23:36] <k1l> aubergine: please stop that bad advices out of frustration
[23:36] <LambdaComplex> He messaged me a few more profanities
[23:37] <knt-newb> lambda - ninjai. i just built a dual boot vista ubuntu. on the hdd i had to make it gpt . then i partitioned 4 sections in gigs 30,30,5,400the first partition fat 32 all remaining ntfs. after vista went into part1, i ran the ubuntu install which added grub to the boot/ mbr process after that, part 2  (30 gig root)was formatted ext4 and the swap part 3 (5Gb). partition 4  (400GB) stayed ntfs and was sharable between the two OS's doub
[23:37] <knt-newb> took me two days but i won
[23:39] <LambdaComplex> ...Okay?
[23:39] <LambdaComplex> Congrats? I have 3 Linux distros and Windows 7 installed
[23:40] <knt-newb> hmm .. scary
[23:40] <Haunt_House> wow. I just need one distro to drive me nuts
[23:40] <knt-newb> my second or third try grub shot my master boot record to non existance.
[23:41] <LambdaComplex> I don't think your mbr is even relevant considering you're doing UEFI
[23:41] <LambdaComplex> Since Windows won't boot if you do GPT/BIOS
[23:41] <lunarmage> isn't Windows very finicky with UEFI dual boot with Linux?
[23:42] <knt-newb> well . u must be right , i spent about a day try ing to fix the mbr
[23:42] <LambdaComplex> lunarmage: Not that I've seen. Maybe you're thinking that windows fastboot thing?
[23:42] <knt-newb> any way the disk is a gpt disk
[23:42] <LambdaComplex> knt-newb: Wait, is your ESP 30 Gigs?
[23:42] <knt-newb> and the first partition is fat 32
[23:42] <lunarmage> that was it, fastboot
[23:42] <lunarmage> sorry lol
[23:43] <LambdaComplex> knt-newb: Is that fat32 partition mounted at /boot or /boot/efi?
[23:43] <knt-newb> the whole disk is 470 gigs or so
[23:44] <knt-newb> idk . what is esp?
[23:44] <LambdaComplex> EFI System Partition
[23:45] <knt-newb> also when booting vista i go through grub and windows mbr dual boot prompt
[23:45] <knt-newb> i e i have to pick vista twice to boot it
[23:45] <koan_> I can't even get ubuntu installed properly lol
[23:49] <Haunt_House> syntax hates me ( :
[23:49] <Bashing-om> koan_: Booting presently in legacy mode and Windows is installed UEFI ?
[23:49] <lunarmage> koan_: thanks for the very helpful error code :)
[23:50] <knt-newb> so. i browsed the samba web page listed earlier , it says to run cmds like "sudo apt-get install cifs-utils" can anyone explain where and or how im supposed to enter these commands?
[23:50] <LambdaComplex> knt-newb: either a virtual terminal or a tty
[23:50] <LambdaComplex> or maybe i mean a terminal emulator
[23:51] <LambdaComplex> w/e
[23:51] <LambdaComplex> knt-newb: also the "how" is "with a keyboard"
[23:51] <knt-newb> lambda assume i know nothing and need my hand held all the way there
[23:51] <knt-newb> lol
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> do i have to walk you through opening a terminal emulator?
[23:52] <lunarmage> open up the "Terminal" application
[23:52] <lunarmage> and in it
[23:52] <ruut> x
[23:52] <lunarmage> write "sudo apt-get install cifs-utils"
[23:52] <koan_> Bashing-om: Yes I've got UEFI, lunarmage: haha np, I'm just afraid to fuck something up through manually partitioning as I'm kinda just blindly following guides and don't know exactly what I'm doing. Think I may try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/666631/how-can-i-dual-boot-windows-10-and-ubuntu-on-a-uefi-hp-notebook
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> and then press enter
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> that part's important
[23:52] <l00p> knt-newb: I think if u press cntrl+alt+t and terminal will apear. If it is default
[23:52] <LambdaComplex> koan_: then learn what you're doing!
[23:52] <lunarmage> LambdaComplex: don't forget the root password
[23:53] <lunarmage> err the user password
[23:53] <lunarmage> because sudo
[23:53] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | koan_ Ours:
[23:53] <LambdaComplex> and because root is disabled by default anyways
[23:53] <koan_> LambdaComplex: I'd really like to, hard to know where to start though
[23:53] <LambdaComplex> koan_: honestly reading the arch linux wiki might help
[23:53] <squinty> knt-newb,  just search for Samba in Ubuntu software center or  type the following in a terminal   sudo apt-get install samba
[23:53] <LambdaComplex> koan_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Partitioning
[23:54] <Haunt_House> MonkeyDust: thanks, it works now
[23:54] <squinty> knt-newb,  that should install pretty much everthing you need for running samba
[23:54] <koan_> Bashing-om: Yes I've looked through those, wasn't extremely helpful.. LambdaComplex: ty for the link, I'll check that out now
[23:55] <knt-newb> aha! applications / terminal, xterm, uxterm. right
[23:56] <knt-newb> lol
[23:56] <koan_> The problem is that Windows 8 came with my PC, I erased it and installed Ubuntu and worked great. Then realized I needed windows still, was advised to erase disk again and install windows THEN install Ubuntu
[23:56] <Bashing-om> koan_: As you are having such difficulties, Might show the channel the current partitioning . See if we can see an error ' sudo parted -l ' and we go from there .
[23:57] <squinty> knt-newb,  you might also want to install  system-config-samba  (GUI for managing samba shares and users )  if the Samba install doesn't include it as default
[23:59] <knt-newb> ok , one more good one. What does sudo represent in a command string?