[00:00] <m4u17k> arrw
[00:00] <Elijah> soundray, does that open it in full screen?
[00:00] <IndyGunFreak> neoser1: just use sudo.
[00:00] <ramier> blech; something is generating network traffic on my system and i don't know what it is...and there aren't any per-process network traffic monitors!? how do i find out whats generating traffic
[00:00] <nickrud> schyffel you can get english error messages with   LANGUAGE="C" <command>
[00:00] <Elijah> soundray, that isn't workign
[00:00] <gla234> is bcast gateway in linux?
[00:00] <neoser1> the sudo command to me leave in a bug to patch any program
[00:01] <ZLemur> xbj9000, did the same thing in grub just now  - a list of successes. need to know anything about the output before i quit grub and reboot?
[00:01] <HealthyElijah> test
[00:01] <HealthyElijah> how do i change my nickname
[00:01] <Lando1> i'm not too familiar with the objects in "/dev/...".  anyone know why my "/dev/raw1394" wouldn't be there?  It was there when I ran Suse 10.2...
[00:01] <xbj9000> zlemur, no I wouldn't know what to do with that info
[00:01] <cycom> HealthyElijah: /nick
[00:01] <nouvo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVsS-nqyTeM
[00:01] <soundray> neoser1: I can't understand you. Are you using translation software?
[00:01] <vocx> Elijah, the shortcut soundray gave you does not open a new terminal it was an example. You can setup your own shortcuts too
[00:01] <ZLemur> k
[00:02] <colaser> I'm already using sudo; I'm running sudo apt-get install -f. So the "Permission denied" error seems strange.
[00:02] <peter86> j #fluxbox
[00:02] <chaco> how can i tell what the temperature of my laptop core is? (simple please)
[00:02] <neoser1> the sudo command have a bug, i can not patch programs and reconfigure with dpkg
[00:02] <schyffel> My problem with mythtv is that the package mythtv-backend tries to overwrite "/var/lib/mythtv/" which is also in the package mythvideo.
[00:02] <soundray> schyffel: in this case, you can safely force the installation of the backend package with 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-backend_0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[00:02] <xbj9000> chaco as far as I know there is no 'simple' way of doing that
[00:02] <xbj9000> but you can find a guide
[00:02] <vocx> chaco, "acpi -t"
[00:03] <ZLemur> still didn't work meh
[00:03] <gla234> how do  Ifind out my gateway in ubuntu? ifconfig lists a lo tbu I cant find the gateway
[00:03] <nickrud> schyffel was mythvideo an ubuntu package?
[00:03] <FightingNavyman> hello
[00:03] <nouvo> it's horrible!!
[00:03] <schyffel> nickrud: yes
[00:03] <micahcowan> gla234, route
[00:03] <xbj9000> sorry zlemur
[00:03] <soundray> neoser1: that's not a reason to ask other people to enable their root accound
[00:03] <soundray> account*
[00:03] <Elijah> so how do you guys open terminal? alt+f2 gnome-terminal
[00:03] <FightingNavyman> how do i go into another server
[00:03] <FightingNavyman> how do i go into another server
[00:03] <FightingNavyman> how do i go into another server
[00:03] <gla234> thanks man
[00:03] <gla234> route did the trick
[00:03] <nickrud> !repeat | FightingNavyman
[00:04] <vocx> FightingNavyman, type /serve <server_name>
[00:04] <soundray> Elijah: I dragged the menu entry to the top panel
[00:04] <schyffel> soundray: thanks!
[00:04] <vocx> FightingNavyman, type /server <server_name>
[00:04] <nickrud> vocx :)
[00:04] <FightingNavyman> ok
[00:04] <neoser1> soundray must have experience in UNIX to work with root...
[00:04] <FightingNavyman> thanks
[00:04] <newclimb> I got a problem with my audio anyone can help me?
[00:05] <newclimb> when a see video it do a strange noises
[00:05] <Elijah> soundray, thanks so much
[00:05] <Elijah> ok, now i am closer to my goal for today
[00:05] <ShereKhan> amenado: Got it! The trick was to install acpid!
[00:05] <neoser1> good bye
[00:05] <Elijah> i want to remove a kernel so it removes it from the grub menu.lst
[00:06] <soundray> Elijah: once I've got a terminal open, I use Shift-Ctrl-N to open a new one
[00:06] <amenado> ShereKhan-> way cool!
[00:06] <ShereKhan> Elijah: update-grub
[00:06] <xbj9000> elijah you could just edit it out of the menu.lst
[00:06] <happymonkey> vocx: somewhat humerous, key up and down are already programmed into the remote :)
[00:06] <vocx> Elijah, but you can also set up a gnome-terminal from the beginning as I told you. But apparently you prefer to waste time by clicking with your mouse.
[00:06] <xbj9000> oops yeah update-grub
[00:06] <happymonkey> vocx: excuse me pg-up and down
[00:06] <neoser1> elijah you only must edit menu.lst and erase the entry to these kernel..... or add if you need
[00:06] <soundray> Elijah: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic' for example should remove the grub entry as well
[00:06] <Elijah> vocx, i would not like a terminal open all the time
[00:06] <vocx> happymonkey, what app is that?
[00:07] <Elijah> i have a habit of closing things when not using then
[00:07] <darthanubis> Bug #237801
[00:07]  * IndyGunFreak wouldn' recommend erasing an entry in menu.lst.. simply commenting it out is best.
[00:07] <happymonkey> vocx: I'm using a hp media remote - came with my laptop and using it with evince.
[00:07] <vocx> Elijah, don't be afraid, you will look more leet in front of your friends, and chicks
[00:08] <happymonkey> vocx: I was confused into thinking that page up and down required more than Prior and Next keys but that is all they need
[00:08] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: even that I would only recommend with entries outside the 'automagic list'
[00:08] <Elijah> vocx, i guess a true linux user uses terminal for everything so maybe i will set to run at startup, i will definitely keep that in my head
[00:08] <vocx> Elijah, if you really want to remove a kernel you remove it's package like linux-image-2.6.20 or whatever, but you may do as IndyGunFreak says too.
[00:08] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: eah, i just like a neat and tidy grub list..lol
[00:08] <cheeseboy> whas the dev package for opengl called?
[00:08]  * LivingInTwilight is just about pissed.
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> LivingInTwilight: well, don't go over the edge
[00:09] <Elijah> vocx, yes i do some sort of search for '~linux-image~i' but forgot what the beginning is
[00:09] <Elijah> aptitude
[00:09] <LivingInTwilight> IndyGunFreak, Ironic, coming from you. My AR-15 came in from the factory, and it's defective.
[00:09] <vocx> happymonkey, yeah, many linux apps are that way, they control things with just a key.
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> LivingInTwilight: oh man that sucks.. what model?
[00:09] <Elijah> does anyone know how to search for installed packages like that
[00:09] <newclimb> I got a problem with my audio anyone can help me?when a see video it do a strange noises!!
[00:09] <LivingInTwilight> IndyGunFreak, S&W M&P15. Great rifles, I've fired many. Mine has a leak in the gas tube.
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> ugh
[00:09] <vocx> Elijah, aptitude search 'linux-image'
[00:10] <rodpod> dpkg -l | grep fasdf
[00:10] <nickrud> !ot | LivingInTwilight IndyGunFreak
[00:10] <LivingInTwilight> IndyGunFreak, When I fire it, it either short-strokes the BCG and fails to chamber the next round, or it catches it just enough to close the bolt on the side of the round, instead of loading it into battery.
[00:10] <happymonkey> vocx: no I am very familiar with mutt, irssi, and other command line tools but am not used to using GNOME so this is nice to see how simple it is
[00:10] <vocx> happymonkey, yup
[00:11] <Elijah> is there a way to scroll up in the term window without using a mouse?
[00:11] <Herissy> elijah : use your arrow keys
[00:11] <soundray> Elijah: Shift-PgUp
[00:11] <nickrud> Elijah shift-pageup
[00:11] <chaco> vocx, how do i use  "acpi -t"
[00:11] <IndyGunFreak> LivingInTwilight: well what seems to be your linux problem
[00:12] <Elijah> thanks, shift page up is nice
[00:12] <LivingInTwilight> IndyGunFreak, Not a one, everything's working as designed. It's actually amazing that I hear myself saying that.
[00:12] <vocx> chaco, for me, just type that in the terminal, and it gives me "Thermal 43 C"
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> LivingInTwilight: lol.. you said you were just baout pissed, so i figured linux was driving you crazy
[00:12] <vocx> chaco, oh, also try "sensors" in the terminal, you may need to install some package
[00:12] <chori> anyone know how to switch primary/secondary display when using fglrx?
[00:12] <xbj9000> lmsensors
[00:12] <Elijah> so i did a aptitude search and a whole bunch of stuff came up
[00:12] <anteaya> vocx: glad to know about acpi -t, thanks
[00:13] <Elijah> before i had only 4 kernels come up
[00:13] <soundray> LivingInTwilight: just do a apt-get --purge remove ar15 and remove S&W from your sources.list
[00:13] <vocx> Elijah, it maybe listing the previous kernels, and there is actually a lot of kernels so it shouldn't surprise you.
[00:13] <Elijah> with the '~linux-image~i' search only 4 kernels came up, it was more specific, how do i do that command
[00:13] <n00b> i want to make a partition in my HD, I want to leave 50 G for my Vista, and the rest I want to leave for Ubuntu. How do I make this new partition from GParted. Please Help. Thanks in advance :)
[00:13] <n00b101> i want to make a partition in my HD, I want to leave 50 G for my Vista, and the rest I want to leave for Ubuntu. How do I make this new partition from GParted. Please Help. Thanks in advance :)
[00:14] <vocx> Elijah, why to you use the strange tilde thingies ~ ?
[00:14] <IndyGunFreak> !partition | n00b
[00:14] <LivingInTwilight> soundray, but if I do that, I've got to apt-get install something else from a different source, and that's not a cheap thing to do.
[00:14] <Flannel> !repeat | n00b101
[00:14] <IndyGunFreak> man he repeated that fast.
[00:14] <aditya1> i have just completed installing xp , i installed xp after linux was already there in the same HDD
[00:14] <Elijah> but aptitude search  '~linux-image~i' gives me unknown pattern, a user showed me earlier and i forgot, i had a bunch of problems to resolve before
[00:14] <Elijah> vocx, the user before showed me them and they worked great
[00:14] <Flannel> n00b101: Is this a new harddrive? or the one youre using currently?
[00:15] <colaser> Okay, this is weird. It looks like I just need to create the file myself, but when I run sudo echo "3000" > fan1_min I get "bash: fan1_min: Permission denied". How do I fix that?
[00:15] <nickrud> Elijah try ~ilinuximage
[00:15] <vocx> n00b101, it is not really hard, gparted is very easy
[00:15] <amenado> Elijah-> its  apt-cache search  linux-image
[00:15] <n00b101> Flannel,  the one I am using currently
[00:15] <fluffles> my remote desktop (VNC) on Ubuntu 8.04 only listens on IPv6 and not IPv4, how can i fix this?
[00:15] <Flannel> n00b101: You'll need a liveCD, but Gparted is pretty self explanatory
[00:15] <n00b101> vocx,  yes but I don't make the partition, I tried and failed, hence I am here :S
[00:15] <soundray> LivingInTwilight: well, perhaps compile one from source
[00:15] <vocx> Elijah, well you don't need them, just use a full word, like 'linux-image'  or with spaces for multiple terms like 'linux kernel image 64'
[00:15] <n00b101> Flannel,  i got it
[00:15] <nickrud> Elijah typo,  ~ilinux-image
[00:15] <ZLemur> aw mn
[00:15] <aditya1> vocx: currently i am in ubuntu 7.10. i just completed installing xp , and while loading there was no option to select xp or linux , it directly booted xp
[00:15] <n00b101> i have to do it from livecd
[00:16] <ZLemur> even fixmbr didn't fix it from the repair prompt
[00:16] <nickrud> vocx the ~i limits the search to installed packages
[00:16] <vocx> aditya1, that's because, as I told you. Win XP erased GRUB, you need to reisntall it again.
[00:16] <LivingInTwilight> soundray, finding all the source to start with would take forever.
[00:16] <aditya1> vocx: then i booted ubuntu from its live cd and reinstalled grup loader
[00:16] <Flannel> Elijah: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> n00b101: doesn't vista have a handy partition tool?.. i've saw many people here mention it
[00:16] <ZLemur> i didn't see what you'd said. how do i reinstall grub, then?
[00:16] <vocx> nickrud, is that documented, never read about it. I think aptitude uses regex, but I could be wrong-
[00:16] <aditya1> but now i not getting the option of loading XP
[00:17] <soundray> aditya1: you should reinstall grub. Follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions:
[00:17] <ZLemur>  because i can get into grub from the live cd and 'find /boot(...)' and root (hdx,x) and setup hd0
[00:17] <soundray> !grub | aditya1
[00:17] <GizmoTheG> no one using linux on ps3 at all?
[00:17] <aditya1> vocx: do i need to install GRUB in the same partition ?
[00:17] <ZLemur> or is that not it?
[00:17] <Elijah> Flannel, thanks
[00:17] <nickrud> vocx it's in the docs, yes. There's all kinds of useful switches, try \!~i~sgnome
[00:17] <amenado> aditya1-> if you open that file /boot/grub/menu.lst  read the verbage, it has a sample for windows entry, it is commented out..
[00:17] <Elijah> so now i need to "purge" the kkernel name right
[00:18] <soundray> aditya1: you should install grub to your first hard disk drive
[00:18] <aditya1> soundray: i did the same thing but do i need to install GRUB in the same partition as the one used in XP
[00:18] <soundray> aditya1: no
[00:18] <vipester> same hard drive, not partition
[00:18] <Elijah> apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic ???
[00:18] <Flannel> Elijah: yeah, remove the old packages.  But its usually a good idea to leave a current kernel, and then one older one that you know is good.
[00:18] <soundray> aditya1: you need to put grub in the master boot record of the first hard disk drive
[00:18] <vocx> nickrud, personally I prefer to see all the results of the search, that way I know what else there is
[00:18] <Flannel> Elijah: Are you on hardy?
[00:19] <Elijah> Flannel, yup that is what the earlier user advised too, this is the thrid oldest one
[00:19] <Elijah> Flannel, yes
[00:19] <Flannel> Elijah: apt-get remove --purge [package name list], or on hardy apt-get purge stuff, yeah
[00:19] <nickrud> vocx has many uses, try ~c . That lists the packages you've removed but left the config files. Just a useful tool, that's all
[00:20] <aditya1> soundray: yes, i did it in the 1st partition which previously had (/) boot pratition
[00:20] <Elijah> what does the rc or ii mean before the kernel names
[00:20] <vocx> aditya1, maybe you need to run "update-grub" again, from within ubuntu to detect your windows XP partition. You maybe able to edit manually the /boot/grub/menu.lst also
[00:20] <nickrud> wow, apt-get has purge now
[00:20] <vocx> nickrud, I do like aptitude, it is great
[00:20] <aditya1> amenado: what all things to remove comments ?
[00:20] <Flannel> Elijah: ii means installed, ad installed. rc means removed, with config files still installed (you haven't purged, or with synaptic "complete removal")
[00:20] <soundray> aditya1: no, you don't install it in a partition, you install it to the MBR
[00:20] <Flannel> nickrud: Its identical to remove --purge, yeah
[00:20] <Muzake> how do i install using safe graphics mode?
[00:20] <vocx> nickrud, apt-get has had purge since... well always
[00:20] <Flannel> vocx: since Hardy
[00:21] <nickrud> vocx I tend to use aptitude in interactive mode, and use  l (L) instead of / for searching
[00:21] <nickrud> vocx --purge, yes but not purge as in aptitude
[00:21] <conformer> has anyone gotten SCIM to work with firefox yet?
[00:21] <vocx> nickrud, you mean without the --
[00:21] <aditya1> soundray: i dont know about that, but when installing it it asked where to install so i install in the master partition
[00:21] <nickrud> vocx yep
[00:21] <yrjokin> aditya1: if you can't sort it - installing xp first works every time (if that becomes your only option)
[00:21] <aditya1> vocx: ok, i am updating grub
[00:21] <bazhang> conformer, get the quick locale switcher plugin for ff
[00:21]  * vocx thinks aptitude kicks apt-get's buttocks
[00:21] <soundray> aditya1: there is no such thing as a master partition
[00:21] <amenado> aditya1-> what i said is a sample entry for windows is there on that menu.lst file, copy it or uncomment those lines if it matches your partition where window is installed
[00:22] <conformer> can i just find that on google?
[00:22] <micahcowan> conformer, I use SCIM/Anthy, didn't have any trouble whatever. Why?
[00:22] <bazhang> conformer, mozilla addons page
[00:22] <conformer> anthy used to work for me but it hasnt for a while
[00:22] <illy> anyone have any idea why i keep getting mutli threads
[00:22] <illy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21984/
[00:22] <illy> apache2 -k start
[00:23] <conformer> i can only get it to work in nautilus
[00:23] <vocx> aditya1, there is a catch there, GRUB is made of "two" stages I think, the first one goes to the MBR, then stage 1.5 and stage 2 are the ones installed on /boot/grub, you need to figure this out
[00:23] <Ubu-Elijah> ok, i got an error while doing apt-get purge kernel http://paste.ubuntu.com/21983/
[00:23] <micahcowan> conformer, note, gnome-terminal seems to have an issue with SCIM: if I open a new tab, and then close it, the original tab stops working until I open a new one again (or a window).
[00:23] <Flannel> illy: Use init.d instead (/etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[00:23] <aditya1>  vocx: i updated it.
[00:23] <Gin> I'm getting random kernel panic :\
[00:23] <Gin> :(
[00:24] <Ubu-Elijah> Flannel: this is the kernel that had rc preceding it
[00:24] <micahcowan> Gin, stop freaking out your kernel.
[00:24] <Nitricacid> what ftp client can change permissions, cuz the default ftp cant.
[00:24] <soundray> Ubu-Elijah: you're trying to remove soething that isn't installed
[00:24] <aditya1> wait a second people, answer one at a time
[00:24] <illy> also is there a better way to get a log file? im running a multi-thread cron to sends friend request on a social network site
[00:24] <Ubu-Elijah> how do i turn join/leave messages off in pidgin
[00:24] <illy> but seems my log file keep overflowing apache
[00:24] <illy> and then dies
[00:24] <illy> i have to reboot it
[00:24] <Flannel> Ubu-Elijah: Right, you can't purge something if its not installed.  There are other methods... Uh, easiest way is to just go into Synaptic, and mark it for complete removal
[00:24] <vocx> aditya1, so when you update both, you need to specify in one instance the hd0 as install disk, and then /dev/sda1 for instance as the second directory, this is explained in the manuals and links
[00:25] <Nitricacid> what ftp client can change permissions, cuz the default ftp cant?
[00:25] <Nitricacid> file permissions *
[00:25] <sammy_> Tat2Yak
[00:26] <amenado> Nitricacid-> not sure you'd want an ftp client be able to change permissions, can you imagine anonymous changing permissions?
[00:26] <micahcowan> Nitricacid, what, on the remote filesystem? ...that's not a standard FTP option, AFAIK
[00:26] <aditya1> amenado: its showing this partition (hd0,0) but its in the 3rd partition. what do i change here ?
[00:26] <sun01tech> hi, what program could i see from ubuntu to make a ms dos bootable partition on a separate disk?
[00:26] <Elijah> i marked it for complete removal then hit apply
[00:27] <Guest49959> is there a way to change your nick in xchat? while connected?
[00:27] <micahcowan> Guest10501, /nick
[00:27] <aorthr33> sun i try qparted
[00:27] <Nitricacid> micahcowan: winSCP does it. its very standard.
[00:27] <Nitricacid> and bullet.
[00:27] <Nitricacid> amenado: it wouldnt be anonymous lol
[00:27] <Elijah> now it wants to download 20 megs fro upgrading other stuff
[00:27] <aorthr33> @ nitric, try the fireftp plugin for FF
[00:28] <micahcowan> Nitricacid, are you sure winSCP isn't doing it over SFTP (very different from FTP)?
[00:28] <vocx> Elijah, there was a recent kernel update
[00:28] <sun01tech> aorthr33: thats different from gparted?
[00:28] <micahcowan> Nitricacid, standard ftp client has a "chmod" command.
[00:28] <Elijah> vocx, so i cannot just remove the old kernel without downloading 20 MB
[00:28] <amenado> aditya1-> which drive?  hd0 == hda  hd1==hdb
[00:29] <Nitricacid> micahcowan: im using winscp on my windows box right now, FTP protocol, editing permissions lol
[00:29] <vocx> Elijah, yes probably you can, but well, usually you would want to update anyway.
[00:29] <aditya1> amenado: hd0==hda
[00:29] <Nitricacid> /join #compiz
[00:29] <Elijah> ok, i guess, it will take a while
[00:30] <aorthr33> sun - no, i typo'd it... its gparted
[00:30] <conformer> the locale switcher doesnt seem to change my typing, does scim work for everyone else?
[00:30] <colaser> I was able to solve my problem; I had added a line to /etc/init.d/acpid that echoed 2500 to that file, as recommended by the wiki page on setting up Ubuntu for my computer (a Santa Rosa Macbook) and commenting it out made it work. Is there anywhere I should post this in case someone else runs into the same problem?
[00:30] <vocx> Elijah, you are in what dial-up?
[00:30] <Elijah> no sprint evdo
[00:30] <Elijah> its actually faster than usual right now
[00:31] <aditya1> amenado: its installed in the 3rd partition
[00:31] <amenado> aditya1-> 3rd partition should then be hd0,2
[00:31] <Elijah> 1 Mb +
[00:31] <Elijah> sometimes it is sub 500kbps
[00:31] <illy> guys how do i run 100 threads on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/21985/
[00:31] <aditya1> amenado: ok, let me reboot now
[00:31] <vocx> colaser, in the forums most probably, there are wikis tutorials, how-to's
[00:31] <colaser> Okay, thank you.
[00:31] <amenado> illy-> what app ?
[00:32] <illy> what u mean what app?
[00:32] <illy> its custom id scraper
[00:32] <amenado> !who | illy
[00:32] <illy> oh sorry
[00:33] <vocx> illy, you mean run that code a hundred times? Use a for loop or something
[00:33] <QAH> Hello everyone!
[00:33] <illy> amenado i'm not sure if they run and just fail cause of proxy error or something .. but when i look using "ps -A | grep wget" there are only like 10 jobs at most
[00:34] <amenado> illy-> are you trying to run wget several times or let it spawn several threads?  id do what vocx suggested
[00:35] <aditya2> i am not getting an option to load XP,
[00:35] <illy> vocx <- im trying to run it mutli times because the script goes onto a social network and grabs id's of users. but seems when i try to run it 100 times so the id scraper is faster it only shows its running 10
[00:36] <vocx> !grub | please see if this is helpful aditya2
[00:36] <illy> vocx <- yeah a loop would probably make the code smaller, but don't think it would make it faster..
[00:37] <vocx> illy, seems like you want to spam people in social networks, so I won't help you...  just kidding.
[00:37] <illy> lol not really. we are grabing artist
[00:38] <illy> and creating a userbase
[00:38] <conformer> does scim not work in firefox for anyone else? i can only get it to work when im renaming file folders and stuff, but it doesnt do anything when i try to use it in anything else
[00:38] <ZLemur> oh this is ludicrous
[00:39] <illy> anoyher question i had for you guys is how to run wget and don't get any output at all, no log files or output files.. i use --spider to skip the output, but the log still shows up
[00:39] <vocx> ZLemur, too bad you cannot enjoy linux like me... ha ha ha
[00:39] <ZLemur> har har har
[00:39] <ZLemur> super funny.
[00:39] <ZLemur> srsly.
[00:39] <vocx> illy, you can redirect standard output to /dev/null
[00:40] <codePhantom> Can anyone here help me with my ubuntu install?
[00:40] <vocx> codePhantom, ask a real question
[00:41] <aditya2>  vocx: do i also need to Overwrite the Windows bootloader ?
[00:41] <shaba1> Hello folks I am a window net admin and new to ubuntu and linux in general. I am running xubuntu on this machine and have several question. #1 in windows the task bar below the main desktop screen is call "taskbar" in linux or Xwindows it is called a panel? Is that correct?
[00:41] <codePhantom> I was installing Ubuntu Hardy through NetBoot(thats the only possible way I could), when it gave an error about not being able to get all the extra software. The installation continued after this so i didn't bother. However, when it came to select and install software, it gives an error at 6%(after I had chosen what I wanted to be installed). How do I fix this problem? I already installed...
[00:41] <Elijah> how do i change the default os in menu.lst
[00:41] <codePhantom> ...GRUB and I'm wondering if I should just end the installation.
[00:41] <Bob_Sagot> I hate laptops, they are so proprietary.
[00:41] <codePhantom> And now it's stuck at 6%.
[00:42] <funkyHat> aditya2: you got grub installed again then?
[00:42] <Elijah> codePhantom, did you use a cheap cd?
[00:42] <Herissy> hmmm.
[00:42] <vipester> if i edit /etc/network/interfaces to configure wpa, my network manager no longer lists wireless networks
[00:42] <fmartin>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[00:42] <codePhantom> I downloaded the netboot.tar.gz from the archive.
[00:42] <vocx> aditya2, well, in the MBR yes, not in the windows system folder. I feel like you are taking unnecessary pain to accomplish this. Are you sure the guides don't cover what you are attempting to do?
[00:42] <purplestar> codePhantom: only use progeams from the repos
[00:43] <ChrissyW> Hey everyone! I'm having a bit of an issue. After I installed new updates yesterday, my video player will no longer play MPEGs properly. It will play sound sometimes, but no video at all. When I try to skip forward through the show the whole system locks up and I end up having to reset. Any ideas what's wrong?
[00:43] <purplestar> ChrissyW: install VLC
[00:43] <aditya2> funkyHat: i installed GRUB, now i am not getting option to boot XP
[00:43] <purplestar> ChrissyW: sudo apt-get install vlc
[00:43] <illy> guys  why does apache start like 100 times.. what is all this.. seems it causes a crash in apache
[00:43] <illy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21988/
[00:43] <Wolfkin> I just finally got Ubuntu to install on this computer I have and my login i choose isn't working. Is there any recourse other than to reinstall Ubunto all over again?
[00:43] <purplestar> aditya2: use SuperGrub boot CD
[00:43] <ChrissyW> okay, thanks
[00:44] <ChrissyW> I'll try that.
[00:44] <codePhantom> This is a really noob question but... whats a repos?
[00:44] <purplestar> Wolfkin: you forgot your login username and passsword.
[00:44] <purplestar> ChrissyW: ok
[00:44] <vocx> ChrissyW, maybe your video driver broke, this is common when installing kernel upgrades.
[00:44] <funkyHat> aditya2: you should be able to add the option to your /boot/grub/menu.list (although I'm surprised it wasn't picked up)
[00:44] <aditya2>  vocx: its there in the guide itself , ie , to Overwrite the Windows bootloader, how do i change in MBR ?
[00:44] <Wolfkin> I'm not sure.. it was 10 seconds ago I know my login but it's not working.. i'm wondering if maybe i made a typo and didn't otice
[00:44] <purplestar> aditya2: user SuperGrub Boot CD
[00:45] <vocx> codePhantom, I haven't used the netinstall but if grub is installed it may just work.
[00:45] <funkyHat> aditya2: wow wow, you don't need to do any more changing of bootloaders, it's done, you just need to add a windows XP option to your boot list
[00:45] <aditya2> purplestar: will it boot both OSes ?
[00:45] <codePhantom> Okay, i'll try it
[00:45] <shaba1> Hello
[00:45] <purplestar> Wolfkin: its case sensitive and whatever you wrote you are not writing it exactly the same again
[00:45] <vocx> aditya2, I think it tells you to do something like "grub" and then "root (hd0)"  and stuff, that should be enough
[00:45] <purplestar> aditya2: it does for me, but I thought u wanted to fix your MBR
[00:46] <Wolfkin> i don't use cases.. my caps lock key has been off the entire time. an other ideas
[00:46] <shaba1> what is teh linux eqivalent of ctrl-alt-delete to stop a stuck program
[00:46] <ariel_> if you start in windows xp first then put the cd in there is a great option to do dual boot
[00:46] <SeaPhor> codePhantom, try looking  System>Admin>Synaptics Package manager
[00:46] <ariel_> works great
[00:46] <illy> why does this happen  guys? sorry for the double post
[00:46] <illy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21988/
[00:46] <nibbo> I need a program that tracks my work-hours on different projects... Is there such a thing?
[00:46] <Elijah> how do i change the default os to boot in grubs menu.lst i cant figure it out
[00:46] <purplestar> Wolfkin: I told you.  whatever you wrote you are not writing it exactly the same again
[00:46] <Elijah> is it just the first one listed?
[00:46] <aditya2> vocx:  i changed those stuff, but still there is no option to load Xp, i rebooted after changing
[00:46] <purplestar> Wolfkin: try again, install Ubuntu, this time remember exactly what you write as username and password
[00:46] <vocx> shaba1, programs do not get stuck, you can use the system monitor to kill running processes, or from the terminal "pkill <something>"
[00:47] <Wolfkin> ok so i have no other recourse but to just reinstall again.. oh well. thanks guess I'll get started
[00:47] <DistroJockey> Elijah, change the line that says  Default 0  (0 being the first, 1 the second, etc.)
[00:47] <dw805> guys, Chrissyw is my daughter, just trying out linux for the first time after hearing me crow about linux for years (we wiped vista off her computer), so linux' reputation is on the line here :)  I had her put ubuntu on because I had heard such good things about it, but as I run centos, I'm not so good at helping her with ubuntu, and she is now 3000+ miles away from me...
[00:47] <Hasone_> my totem can't play mp3s anymore. help!
[00:47] <illy> for now i've redirected the log file to one file.. don't know if that slows down things tho, as 100 instances tries to write to it
[00:47] <purplestar> Hasone_: use VLC, not totem
[00:47] <illy> -o /home/wgetlogs/testlog2
[00:47] <Hasone_> i'll try vlc
[00:47] <dw805> hopefully vlc will work better for her, provided she doesn't have an underlying  driver problem?
[00:47] <vocx> shaba1, there are various ways to kill something, "kill <number>", "pkill <name>", "xkill" use the mouse to kill a window
[00:48] <illy> instead of "wget-log" ending up in /, it's redirected to /home/wgetlogs/testlog2 for every instance that's running
[00:48] <funkyHat> aditya2: can you pastebin your menu.lst please? and also pastebin the output of df
[00:48] <purplestar> Hasone_:  sudo apt-get install vlc
[00:48] <ChrissyW> purplestar: the sudo apt-get install vlc worked
[00:48] <Hasone_> vlc doesn't work, either.
[00:48] <ChrissyW> i get sound and picture now
[00:48] <purplestar> ChrissyW: cool :)
[00:48] <aditya2> funkyHat: sure
[00:48] <ChrissyW> I can't forward through videos still though. it was like that before the update though. any idea why?
[00:48] <shaba1> xkill?
[00:48] <shaba1> with the muse
[00:49] <ir8> Hello I have question what is a good Raid controller for raid 0 two drives
[00:49] <ChrissyW> if I try to it either goes back to the beginning or jumps straight to the end
[00:49] <ir8> that is supported
[00:49] <aditya2> funkyHat:  how to get the output of df ?
[00:49] <SeaPhor> ChrissyW, VLC rocks
[00:49] <Hasone_> purplestar: both totem and vlc don't work.
[00:49] <purplestar> ChrissyW: no idea, happens to me at times too
[00:49] <funkyHat> aditya2: just type df at a command prompt
[00:49] <shaba1> right now I have a firefox window(?) up that was suppose to add adobe flash player and its stuck
[00:49] <evilbug> ChrissyW- use a different media player.
[00:49] <ir8> The LSI megaRAID drivers are the raid cards are not supported
[00:49] <purplestar> Hasone_: what doesnt work?
[00:49] <shaba1> I need to know how to stop that
[00:49] <Elijah> DistroJockey, so th line being actual line, i counted about 30 lines until i got to my desired os
[00:49] <funkyHat> aditya2: I just want that so I can work out the correct info for your Windows entry in menu.lst
[00:50] <vocx> dw805, man the net is a horrible place, so beware of what your daughter gets involved with
[00:50] <illy> guys whats the best way not to log????
[00:50] <ir8> shaba1: 64bit or 32bit?
[00:50] <Elijah> how do i display line numbers in gedit
[00:50] <purplestar> ChrissyW: does it happen in mplayer too?
[00:50] <Hasone_> purplestar: neither totem or vlc can play mp3s. the slider bar moves along, but no sound comes out.
[00:50] <Hasone_> chatzilla works just fine at beeping at me, though ><
[00:50] <illy> we don't want any output from wget?
[00:50] <DistroJockey> Elijah, the  title  lines only
[00:50] <illy> any help pls?
[00:50] <purplestar> Hasone_: you have to edit the prefeences in VLC then. that happened to me once
[00:50] <ChrissyW> purplestar: okay, glad to know it's not just me. =D out of curiosity, now that I've already done it, what is vlc? it happens in the totem movie player. that's the only one I have
[00:50] <ir8> shaba1: open a terminal killall -9 firefox-bin or firefox
[00:50] <vocx> shaba1, open a terminal the do "xkill"  and click on firefox
[00:50] <purplestar> !vlc | ChrissyW
[00:50] <Elijah> DistroJockey, thanks
[00:50] <funkyHat> shaba1: the best way to install the flash player is through synaptic or apt, just install the package flashplugin-nonfree
[00:51] <DistroJockey> Elijah, no problem
[00:51] <Hasone_> purplestar: will I have to edit the preferences in totem, too? could I maybe fix that?
[00:51] <ir8> anyone good with hardware support?
[00:51] <illy> trying to figure out the best way not to log when running 100 threads
[00:51] <ChrissyW> vocx: I'm old enough to be pretty net savvy, and he's taught me pretty well to keep away from the weirdos =P
[00:51] <vocx> ir8, don't use kill -9, just use kill, because -9 doesn't give a chance to clean up
[00:51] <Elijah> DistroJockey, i chose the saved option because it already had saved default in it
[00:51] <shaba1> 64 or 32 bit what ir8?? the processor the version of xubuntu the version of firefox? what
[00:51] <Elijah> so i am guessing that will work
[00:51] <Elijah> nope
[00:51] <Elijah> hmm
[00:51] <purplestar> Hasone_: play around with the settings, but I do recall changing something in the VIDEO setting in VLC which fixed that problem
[00:51] <illy> vocx : any idea how not to log when using 100 threads for wget?
[00:51] <aditya2> funkyHat:  what about this cmd ???  sudo fdisk -l ??? should i paste this also as i cant see the FAT partition in df ?
[00:51] <vocx> ChrissyW, I demand proof of that old enough, > 18
[00:51] <ir8> vocx: its a hard kill.
[00:51] <Elijah> maybe i didn't save it
[00:52] <purplestar> Hasone_: Try playing with the settings under Settings -> Preferences -> Audio -> Output Modules -> OSS and ALSA. It worked for me.
[00:52] <funkyHat> aditya2: ah turns out that sudo fdisk -l is more useful than df yes :)
[00:52] <aditya2> its 5:20am here i have been trying to do this for last 5 hrs
[00:52] <vocx> ir8, you don't needa hard kill, just a kill, sigterm
[00:52] <ChrissyW> vocx: possibly you're one of the people he warned me about?
[00:52] <aditya2> funkyHat:  ok
[00:53] <vocx> CroX, laughing my buttocks off
[00:53] <ChrissyW> so should I be getting MPlayer then possibly instead of totem?
[00:53] <dw805> vocx: are you trying to insinuate that sickos hang out in #ubuntu??????
[00:53] <Hasone_> i'm getting nothing. are there any sound experts here? I also notice I'm not getting any sound during avis and other movies
[00:53] <ir8> vocx: is there a website the lists all supported raid card drviers for ubuntu
[00:53] <ir8> the/that/
[00:53] <Wolfkin> hey here's an idea could I use the 'rescue' option to create a new user?
[00:53] <cignatov> Hi! What's better for my IBM ThinkPad TransNote (PIII-600, 192RAM) --- Ubuntu or Windows XP?
[00:54] <aditya2> funkyHat: http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/2crFj85Zv7
[00:54] <illy> any idea how not to log when using 100 threads for wget?
[00:54] <illy> any idea how to stop wget from logging
[00:54] <vocx> dw805, net is a tough place, you should have seen these new zeland guys once... Now we have anti spam bots, but man that time was funny.
[00:54] <ariel_> cignatov, ubuntu
[00:54] <Elijah> DistroJockey, have you ever used the savedefault in grub before?
[00:54] <Elijah> it isnt working
[00:54] <shaba1> vocx
[00:54] <shaba1> that was NOT good
[00:54] <aditya2> funkyHat:  hey i will be right back, rebooting my system
[00:54] <shaba1> now the taskbar at the bottom and top are gone
[00:54] <vocx> shaba1, that's a kill, a ctrl+alt+delete
[00:55] <shaba1> yeah and
[00:55] <vocx> ir8, I don't know.
[00:55] <spideyman> cignatov, I run a p3 650mgtz desktop with ubuntu 8.04 1 gig ram sweet the best ive ever seen from this pc
[00:55] <illy> any idea how to stop wget from logging
[00:55] <vocx> !raid | ir8
[00:55] <shaba1> now all I have is THIS windwo and my desktop background
[00:55] <ir8> vocx: due to the fact that the LSI megaraid drivers are nuked.
[00:55] <dlozarie> hi all. yesterday a fellow in the channel helped me figure out that I have all of 2GB left of disk space for Ubuntu to use. How does one go about increasing that size?
[00:55] <DistroJockey> Elijah, nope, sorry
[00:55] <cignatov> spideyman, can I run Gnome on my configuration? ('cause KDE sux ^_^)
[00:56] <Elijah> DistroJockey,  k, i changed it to the 6th title line
[00:56] <tstiffler88> hello, I'm having problems with my computer acting slow, freezing, and also crashing my Opera browser. Using Ubuntu 8.04
[00:56] <spideyman> cignatov, I cant see why not
[00:56] <Elijah> hopefully that works
[00:56] <illy> any idea how to stop wget from logging???????????????????????????
[00:56] <purplestar> i wish there was a program for Ubuntu that easily converts FLV to 3gp
[00:56] <spideyman> cignatov, I only use kde lol
[00:56] <DistroJockey> Elijah, so you have  default 5  now then?
[00:56] <ChrissyW> ubottu: so out of Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine, what ones should I be using ideally?
[00:56] <Flannel> !repeat | illy
[00:56] <Lando1> i have a pretty fresh install of 8.04.  When i try to "Add/Remove..."-->(pick apps)-->"apply changes", the window goes grey and nothing happens.  also, the terminal command "gksudo nautilus" doesn't do anything either.  is there a method of getting more feedback of what is happening?
[00:56] <purplestar> Hasone_: did it work?
[00:57] <vocx> illy, what do you mean by logging, dose it store something in /tmp? I really don't know.
[00:57] <brianherman> hello
[00:57] <brianherman> i need help with amarok
[00:57] <vocx> ChrissyW, ubottu is a bot, how about that?
[00:57] <Yooshi> is there any way to set apps to startup when linux boots? Like in winxp I can set services to start at boot or in the startup folder
[00:57] <brianherman> gnome apps play but amarok doesnt
[00:57] <Flannel> ChrissyW: VLC, Totem, and MPlayer are popular Ubuntu players
[00:57] <spideyman> brianherman, whats up?
[00:57] <Flannel> !bum | Yooshi
[00:57] <dlozarie> uhm, can anyone help me with this?
[00:57] <adityag> funkyHat: i tried both the entries, still i am not getting the option to load xp
[00:58] <brianherman> hi spideman!
[00:58] <Hasone_> purplestar: no luck.
[00:58] <illy> vocx = `--background'
[00:58] <illy>     Go to background immediately after startup. If no output file is specified via the `-o', output is redirected to `wget-log'.
[00:58] <vocx> !startup | Yooshi
[00:58] <Hasone_> !sound
[00:58] <brianherman> !amarok | Yooshi
[00:58] <ChrissyW> lol ubottu is a bot. that's neat. haha XD
[00:58] <Flannel> illy: use -o and send it to /dev/null
[00:58] <dlozarie> hi all. yesterday a fellow in the channel helped me figure out that I have all of 2GB left of disk space for Ubuntu to use. How does one go about increasing that size?
[00:58] <purplestar> Hasone_: are your speakers turned on and plugged in? :)
[00:59] <Hasone_> purplestar: yes
[00:59] <tstiffler88> hello, when my ubuntu 8.04 desktop boots, I get an error where I have to hit ctrl-D to proceed to the login screen, can anyw=one assist?
[00:59] <adityag> funkyHat: installed XP in 3rd partition, booted ubuntu 7.10 from live cd, opened rescue broken system, and installed grub loader in /dev/hda
[00:59] <Yooshi> cool lots of options from everybody :D
[00:59] <Hasone_> purplestar: I tried real hard to check all the stupid little things :)
[00:59] <Herissy> is there a restricted set of shared libraries that I need to play dvd's?
[00:59] <purplestar> Hasone_: so you dont get any sound?
[00:59] <illy> vocx <-- using the --background, or -b, option shit gets logged
[00:59] <Hasone_> purplestar: chatzilla is making sounds.
[00:59] <purplestar> Hasone_: so what doesnt make sounds?
[00:59] <Hasone_> purplestar: I'm going to check a game I play. right now, vlc, totem, etc. don't make sounds.
[00:59] <purplestar> Hasone_: does xmms play sound?
[01:00] <anteaya> Herissy, I believe that it is called medibuntu
[01:00] <spideyman> brianherman, amorok is for kde
[01:00] <vocx> illy, I was reading that, maybe you can do --output-file=/dev/null
[01:00] <Hasone_> purplestar: don't have it. I could get it.
[01:00] <purplestar> Hasone_: onboard sound?  does xmms play sound?
[01:00] <purplestar> Hasone_: install xmms and tell me if that plays sound
[01:00] <Herissy> whats the info websites for it?
[01:01] <anteaya> Herissy, am looking but am on dial up
[01:01] <illy> vocx <--- thanks. I will try that now
[01:01] <adityag> vocx: can u check out my menu.lst file pls ??? i have also pasted fdisk -l ??? http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/2crFj85Zv7
[01:01] <anteaya> Herissy, you may be faster
[01:01] <brianherman> ya but i like it
[01:01] <Herissy> omfg I thought I was the only one on dial-up
[01:01] <spideyman> brianherman, then use kubuntu
[01:01] <purplestar> Hasone_: you using Hardy 8.04?
[01:01] <brianherman> spiderman: it worked before
[01:01] <illy> Herissy wtf u doing on dialup
[01:01] <anteaya> Herissy, i guess there are two of us then
[01:01] <purplestar> Herissy: whats dial up?
[01:01] <Hasone_> purplestar: yep.
[01:01] <illy> damn
[01:01] <purplestar> :)
[01:02] <dlozarie> hi all. yesterday a fellow in the channel helped me figure out that I have all of 2GB left of disk space for Ubuntu to use. How does one go about increasing that size?
[01:02] <Herissy> lol
[01:02] <illy> purplestar lol
[01:02] <brianherman> spideman: vlc doesn't work also
[01:02] <spideyman> brianherman, i dont knoew i only use kde
[01:02] <purplestar> Hasone_: do the Ubuntu SOUNDS work? system/preferneces/SOUNDS
[01:02] <Herissy> dial up is what us old folks used to use back in the 80's to connect to the "internet"
[01:02] <purplestar> illy: :-)
[01:02] <funkyHat> adityag: your menu.lst should look like this http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/631VVnJyBb
[01:02] <Herissy> ... which I created.
[01:02] <brianherman> gnome sounds work but kde sounds doesnt
[01:02] <vocx> adityag, that seems correct
[01:03] <spideyman> herissy  i remember 28.8 dial up
[01:03] <funkyHat> adityag: actually... sorry, let me edit it a bit more
[01:03] <Flannel> adityag: Did you upgrade Windows 9X to XP?
[01:03] <tstiffler88> can anyone help me with a boot error I keep getting? It forces me to hit ctrl-D to continue to the login screen
[01:03] <purplestar> Herissy: I heard about dialup in the 1980's, havent heard about it since for 25 years now until today ;)
[01:03] <Hasone_> branherman, maybe we're having the same problem
[01:03] <Herissy> lol
[01:03] <Hasone_> brianherman: maybe we're having the same problem
[01:03] <anteaya> Herissy, try here http://www.medibuntu.org/packages.php
[01:03] <anteaya> Herissy, and see how you do
[01:03] <adityag> Flannel: no
[01:03] <SeaPhor> dlozarie, boot from live cd and sudo apt-get install gparted run gparted and resize partitions
[01:04] <adityag> funkyHat: so its after that block ? only thats the change right ?
[01:04] <purplestar> Herissy: I get around 1.5 to 1.8 MB per second :)  And you get 5KB/s ;)
[01:04] <ir8> this is odd not one person in here know what hardware is supported and what is not supported.
[01:04] <Flannel> adityag: You only have a FAT32 partition, which could be XP (XP can be both FAT or NTFS), and that's your windows entry in GRUB
[01:04] <funkyHat> adityag: http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/90WlITXkRC this should be better
[01:04] <purplestar> Herissy: how does that make you feel? :)
[01:04] <Herissy> 5KB?
[01:04] <Herissy> haha not n you life. half that max
[01:04] <ir8> 1.5MB - 1.8 is about 10 - 18mbps
[01:04] <purplestar> ir8: why is that odd?  not even the founder of Ubuntu would know that :)
[01:04] <ir8> purplestar: well.. lol.
[01:04] <purplestar> ir8: :-)
[01:04] <funkyHat> adityag: I moved it after the block and changed it slightly, and the second change is I changed the timeout to 10 seconds rather than 3, and stopped the menu from being hidden
[01:05] <ir8> A base answer would be great.
[01:05] <vocx> adityag, in my menu.lst I have this line "savedefault" after the "root (hd0,2)" and before "makeactive"
[01:05] <SeaPhor> dlozarie, type /join #SeaPhor and i can help more if you need
[01:05] <adityag> so should i copy all whats there in the last link right ?? in menu.lst ?
[01:05] <brianherman> hasone_: really!
[01:05] <Herissy> on top of being Dial Up its also MSN dial-up.
[01:05] <purplestar> ir8: you would need to ask a ubuntu developer to answer that, and even he may struggle to know :)
[01:05] <ir8> purplestar: What LSI sas controllers are supported.
[01:05] <anteaya> Herissy, so does that work for you?
[01:05] <Hasone_> brianherman: I'm having a problem getting totem and vlc to play files. so who knows?
[01:05] <vocx> adityag, what you hadn't used it before?
[01:05] <purplestar> ir8: i have no idea lol
[01:05] <ir8> purplestar: Augh ;)
[01:05] <brianherman> hasone_: do you have any ideas
[01:05] <ir8> lol
[01:05] <funkyHat> adityag: you shouldn't put your own stuff inside the debian automagic list, it might go missing (not certain that it will, but it doesn't belong there anyway)
[01:05] <purplestar> Hasone_: did xmms work?
[01:06] <MyLastBreath> i just downloaded Ubunu 8.04 i386 onto my mac, which has the internet connection, im where is the iso file located? im trying to prepare to burn it to disc according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:06] <ir8> i see the MegaRaid driver
[01:06] <shaba1> ok that suggestion by irv messed me up
[01:06] <Hasone_> purplestar: I thought I installed xmms, but can't find it anywhere either via gui or terminal
[01:06] <purplestar> Hasone_: vlc doesnt even play the video?
[01:06] <anteaya> Herissy, this may work better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[01:06] <Hasone_> purplestar: vlc plays the video
[01:06] <shaba1> Now I have not top and bottom task bars
[01:06] <purplestar> Hasone_: type this.  sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:06] <shaba1> how do I get those back?
[01:06] <purplestar> Hasone_: then type xmms
[01:06] <funkyHat> adityag: probably safer to copy and paste straight from my pastebin rather than attempt to duplicate it :)
[01:07] <Yooshi> vocx: according to factoid, there should be a start up programs tab... there isn't one
[01:07] <Herissy> lol its still loading.
[01:07] <purplestar> Hasone_: play around with the sound settings in VLC
[01:07] <Hasone_> xmms: command not found
[01:07] <illy> vocx:<------- that seemed to work better.. thanks!
[01:07] <Herissy> its going to take a long time.
[01:07] <maulik> where might i find help with kinodv ?
[01:07] <vipester> Can someone help with a wpa config problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5234844&postcount=1461
[01:07] <adityag> funkyHat: ok,
[01:07] <vocx> adityag, also, I noticed something. At the top of the file there is this "hiddenmenu", make it a comment like #hiddenmenu  also try increasing the "timeout" to 6 if you want
[01:07] <jdwilm> What option do i need with xinit to create a second x server using a config other than the default (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)?
[01:07] <purplestar> Hasone_: xmp-common
[01:07] <maulik> specifically, i've built/installed kinodv 1.3 but while i'm editing i can't get it to play audio (audio works fine otherwise)
[01:08] <vocx> illy, you owe me some money then... okay I'm waiting now... still waiting
[01:08] <Xeon06> Hey all. Does anyone know where I can find drivers for Logitech wireless keyboards and mices? More specifically, a logitech S510. I've looked around and everybody's seem to work fine except for the remote. The actual keyboard and mice wont work for me. It doesnt even let me get to the login screen, shoots me some error about Logitech USB something.
[01:08] <purplestar> Hasone_: xmms2
[01:08] <funkyHat> vocx: I've pastebinned a modified menu.lst that adityag should be able to use already :)
[01:08] <purplestar> Hasone_: then type xmms2
[01:08] <SeaPhor> vipester, more info please, card chipset, etc.
[01:08] <purplestar> Hasone_: type this.  sudo apt-get install xmms2
[01:08] <Hasone_> purplestar: installing xmpcommon
[01:08] <vocx> funkyHat, okay, didn't know why so much trouble
[01:09] <purplestar> Hasone_: type this instead, sudo apt-get install xmms2
[01:09] <vocx> Hasone_, purplestar don't use xmms, use audacious instead.
[01:09] <vipester> SeaPhor, bcm43xx.  can detect all networks, only connect to unsecured/wep.  ubuntu 8.04
[01:09] <shaba1> vocx
[01:09] <adityag> so do i change ## to # in hiddenmenu ?
[01:09] <Hasone_> jason@jason-laptop:~/Música$ xmms2 play Episode\ 3\ -\ Ness\ The\ Exterminator.mp3
[01:09] <Hasone_> Log output will be stored in /home/jason/.cache/xmms2/xmms2d.log
[01:09] <Hasone_> xmms2 started
[01:09] <Hasone_> ERROR: Couldn't start playback: Could not start playback
[01:09] <funkyHat> vocx: I just corrected the one he'd already pastebinned and re-posted - not so much trouble :)
[01:09] <purplestar> vocx: ok tell Hasone_  :)
[01:09] <shaba1> that suggestion lost the top and bottom 'taskbars' on my desktop
[01:09] <shaba1> how do I get them back
[01:09] <purplestar> Hasone_: you have serious issues dude
[01:10] <funkyHat> adityag: the last link I gave you already has the hiddenmenu line commented out
[01:10] <purplestar> Hasone_: try another distro
[01:10] <vocx> shaba1, you probably killed the panels too. But no worry.
[01:10] <Hasone_> purplestar: is there no one who can fix them for me?
[01:10] <Hasone_> purplestar: you're kidding.
[01:10] <purplestar> Hasone_: doesnt seem so
[01:10] <adityag> but it has 2 # .....where as he said only 1 #
[01:10] <ArticWolf> I have a problem I have a computer that runs on ubuntu 7.04 but when i try to install Ubuntu 8.04 it stops at a Busybox 1.1.3 window ... the computer is a dell poweredge 2400 with 733mhz CPU 1gig ram
[01:10] <shaba1> no worry??
[01:10] <Hasone_> purplestar: I got the sound briefly working yesterday.
[01:10] <purplestar> Hasone_: im not kidding.  sometimes another distro works better for your personal PC config
[01:10] <shaba1> how do I get them back?
[01:10] <vocx> shaba1, type "gnome-panel" in the terminal
[01:10] <adityag> funkyHat:  ^
[01:10] <Hasone_> purplestar: and it's been working for months.
[01:10] <purplestar> Hasone_: then reinstall Ubuntu
[01:11] <Hasone_> purplestar: well, beepity beep beep beep.
[01:11] <Signil> I can't burn any cd's on hardy .. I get "a write error occured which was likely due to overburning the disc"
[01:11] <funkyHat> adityag: generally # means a comment so the line is ignored, menu.lst doesn't always keep that rule but it does for that line :) so one # or two doesn't matter
[01:11] <Hasone_> is there no one who can find out what's changed between it not working and it working?
[01:11] <SeaPhor> vipester, look here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[01:11] <purplestar> Hasone_: i have had to do it too, sometimes a reinstall is needed.  then when everything works, backup it up using Acronis Trueimage
[01:11] <shaba1> gnome-panel is currently NOT installed
[01:11] <anteaya> Hasone_, did you know there is a sound channel?  #alsa
[01:11] <Hasone_> anteaya: thanks. I'll check it out.
[01:11] <Herissy> if only I can make this computer use my dial-up connection over the network.
[01:11] <purplestar> Hasone_: a kernel update maybe screwed it
[01:11] <Signil> I can't burn any cd's on hardy .. I get "a write error occured which was likely due to overburning the disc" ??
[01:11] <vocx> shaba1, right, you have no terminal, type Alt-F2 then "gnome-panel" install from there.
[01:11] <adityag> funkyHat:   ok......thank you all...vocx:  brb after rebooting
[01:12] <Hasone_> purplestar: that's likely. I've had quite a few kernel updates, lately.
[01:12] <anteaya> Hasone_, np
[01:12] <caymera> how to install java on ubuntu 8.04
[01:12] <purplestar> Hasone_: yeah that happened to me once
[01:12] <mcscruff> lo all, i have made a vmware virtual machine, is it possible to turn this into a bootable usb distro?
[01:12] <shaba1> I am in the terminal vocx
[01:12] <purplestar> Hasone_: not on 8..04 but it happened on earlier Ubuntu's
[01:12] <Tweakerz> hello my wifi/nic card stopped working when i uninstalled virtualbox anybody know why?
[01:12] <shaba1> I typed that IN the terminal window
[01:12] <purplestar> Hasone_: kernel updates have made my sound stop working
[01:12] <vocx> shaba1, there must be a gnome-panel, I'm confused, you rebooted or what?
[01:13] <purplestar> Hasone_: can u load Ubuntu using the older kernel?
[01:13] <Hasone_> purplestar: I can try.
[01:13] <maulik> how does one find help with kino dv, the video editing software?
[01:13] <Hasone_> purplestar: but I'm going to ask the people over in alsa first.
[01:13] <purplestar> Hasone_: you get option in menu to load older kernels right?
[01:13] <shaba1> No I did not reboot
[01:13] <Hasone_> on boot? yeah, purplestar
[01:13] <purplestar> Hasone_: ok let me know how it goes, im curious like a cat :)
[01:13] <shaba1> I am running xubuntu as I said
[01:13] <vocx> shaba1, reboot, it solves things!
[01:13] <purplestar> Hasone_: well do a reboot now pls
[01:13] <shaba1> if that makes a difference
[01:13] <purplestar> Hasone_: and choose the older kernel and see if sound works
[01:14] <shaba1> I was afraid you were going to say that
[01:14] <Signil> I can't burn any cd's on hardy .. I get "a write error occured which was likely due to overburning the disc" ??
[01:14] <ZLemur> what's the secret to dual booting doze/linux? should/can linux be primary?
[01:14] <purplestar> Signil: try gnomebaker
[01:14] <SeaPhor> vipester, specifically-   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[01:14] <shaba1> I have stuff downloadin with the add/remove programs applet
[01:14] <vocx> shaba1, in fact just restar X, with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[01:14] <shaba1> I would rather not reboot right now
[01:14] <purplestar> Signil: and try another CD
[01:14] <ZLemur> every time i try, something smurfs my boot record beyond easy recovery
[01:14] <Signil> hmm ok
[01:14] <vocx> shaba1, okay don't reboot, but what else, are you running compiz
[01:14] <purplestar> Signil: so install gnomebaker first, then try a NEW CD and burn
[01:15] <purplestar> Agent_Mulder: are you related to Agent Muller? :)
[01:15] <vocx> Agent_Mulder, is it true a new movie is out?
[01:15] <purplestar> alienseer23: welcome to Earth :-)
[01:15] <bazhang> purplestar, please take the chat elsewhere
[01:15] <vipester> SeaPhor, thanks... so according to this page, if I have to edit network/interfaces, i can no longer use network manager?
[01:15] <purplestar> vocx: lol
[01:16] <purplestar> bazhang: ok :)
[01:16] <Tweakerz> any pros here with vituralbox?
[01:16] <alienseer23> purplestar: how very friendly of you
[01:16] <purplestar> alienseer23: thank you :-)
[01:16] <ASULutzy> !ask | Tweakerz
[01:16] <purplestar> Hasone_: you rebooted yet?
[01:16] <Tweakerz> i did not ask to ask a question
[01:16] <Tweakerz> I asked a question
[01:16] <purplestar> lol
[01:16] <vocx> Tweakerz, pros as in problems or positive stuff?
[01:17] <SeaPhor> well i have issues with a diff card, so not sure on yours, just i knew where to start with your issue, vipester
[01:17] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: Just ask what you need help with and if someone knows the answer they'll respond, like the factoid says
[01:17] <Tweakerz> pro as in problems
[01:17] <jrib> Tweakerz: just assume "yes" is the answer to that question and ask your next question
[01:17] <Tweakerz> as in the program it self
[01:17] <Tweakerz> ok
[01:17] <vocx> purplestar, my comments are funny, but cannot use private messages
[01:17] <Tweakerz> my wifi/nic card stopped working when i uninstalled virtualbox
[01:17] <purplestar> vocx:  :)
[01:17] <obf213> hey ive been trying to do this for months with hardy heron....but i cant seem to get extended desktop. it used to work with gutsy, when i try to directly change screens setting xorg gets all screwed up
[01:17] <aditya1> vocx: funkyHat: successful .......but when i shut down XP, it crashes!!!
[01:17] <shaba1> GRRRRR
[01:17] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: What does ifconfig say?
[01:18] <shaba1> vox:
[01:18] <Hasone_> purplestar: following the advice in alsa first. the computer i'm chatting on is the one that's broken, so I'll reboot a bit later.
[01:18] <shaba1> Can I make a suggestion to you
[01:18] <Tweakerz> just shows l0 device
[01:18] <purplestar> Hasone_: what alsa say to do?
[01:18] <SeaPhor> vipester, follow that and let me know , i will continue to help as i can,,, if i'm not here check #SeaPhor
[01:18] <vipester> SeaPhor, okay thanks
[01:18] <vocx> aditya1,  that is strange.
[01:18] <Tweakerz> its for the link encap local loop back
[01:18] <alienseer23> perhaps you can help me with a problem; I am running heron on a box that requires the bcm43xx firmware for the wireless. "Hardware driver" has the driver as "in use", but not enabled. I click the enable box, restart, and it is in the same state, in use, but not enabled..help?
[01:18] <aditya1> vocx: funkyHat: should i add savedefault  after root ??? is it savedefault
[01:18] <funkyHat> aditya1: oh.. that's not so good... I can't really think of any reason that would be related to Ubuntu or GRUB though
[01:18] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: How did you remove virtualbox?
[01:18] <bazhang> purplestar, you can take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <JuJuBee> I have laptop with ATI mobility 9700.  I use the drivers from ATI so I can have multiple displays (2).  Does Hardy have better support for AIT than Previous versions?  SHould I disable the proprietary drivers yet>
[01:19] <Tweakerz> threw synpatic packet manager
[01:19] <vocx> shaba1, go ahead insult me
[01:19] <purplestar> bazhang: ok thanks
[01:19] <shaba1> I have been using computers sind 1976 with my first altair8000 that I built from a kit, When you are giving suggestion to a newbie ASSUme NOTHING
[01:19] <frosty> shaba1, :)
[01:19] <nickrud> shaba1 +1
[01:19] <shaba1> I just lost all the apps I was downloading by following your suggeston
[01:19] <brianherman> altair 8000!
[01:19] <funkyHat> aditya1: if you want GRUB to remember which OS you booted last, and boot that again (unless you choose a different one), then add savedefault
[01:19] <brianherman> wow
[01:19] <Tweakerz> ASULutzy, both wifi card and wired card are not showing
[01:19] <vocx> shaba1, I usually assume nothing, it's just that most questions are too vague and not very clear. So we have to keep guessing.
[01:20] <aditya1> 'funkyHat: i just installed a new copy of XP...and when i started it for the 1st time it had shut down successfully
[01:20] <nickrud> shaba1 if you interrupted the download phase, they aren't lost, but in /var/cache/apt/archive. apt will pick up where it left off
[01:20] <shaba1> I know that vocx
[01:20] <aditya1> funkyHat: ok
[01:20] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: Did you do anything virtualbox wise other than just installing it? (ie did you set up host networking/create a bridge/etc)
[01:20] <purplestar> use OSL2000 as boot manager
[01:20] <aditya1> anyways it was quite easy, thank you all once again !!!!!!
[01:20] <Tweakerz> ASULutzy,  no i started set up the a pc but did not get that far
[01:20] <purplestar> anyone know of a GUI program for Hardy that converts FLV to 3gp?
[01:20] <shaba1> thrust me I have been giving advise to windows users for YEAR. They always think that you can see thru thier eyes
[01:20] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: Weird... And what happens if you just try like... sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[01:21] <bitznbytes> can ms word work with wine on ubuntu
[01:21] <shaba1> nickrud: HOW do I do that
[01:21] <Xeon06> why would you want that bitznbytes
[01:21] <Hilikus> is the opensource nv driver not supporting tv out yet?? i upgraded to hardy and my tv out stopped working
[01:21] <Xeon06> there are other alternatives to ms word
[01:21] <nickrud> shaba1 simply re run the command
[01:21] <vocx> shaba1, I actually told you not to reboot, but you left the channel exactly then.
[01:21] <Tweakerz> ASULutzy,  says eth0 Error while getting interface flags no such device
[01:21] <JuJuBee> purplestar are those video files?
[01:21] <shaba1> and vox I did not mean to insult you. Its a habit with IT people.
[01:21] <kitche> Hilikus: from what I know what nvidia said you need the binary driver to tv out
[01:21] <ArticWolf> I have a problem I have a computer that runs on ubuntu 7.04 but when i try to install Ubuntu 8.04 it stops at a Busybox 1.1.3 window ... the computer is a dell poweredge 2400 with 733mhz CPU ... 1gig ram
[01:22] <shaba1> Well I did that command you told me to
[01:22] <vocx> nickrud, he was using the ad remove program
[01:22] <JuJuBee> purplestar ist 3gp from cell phone?
[01:22] <purplestar> JuJuBee: downloads from youtube yes
[01:22] <JuJuBee> http://media-convert.com/convert/
[01:22] <nickrud> shaba1 I lived at the bottom of a 3k pipe for a long time, took advantage of that a lot. vocx same thing, same backend
[01:22] <purplestar> JuJuBee: yes
[01:22] <brianherman> hey my alsa works its with my kde
[01:22] <Tweakerz> ASULutzy,  think maybe it uninstall my network drivers when it removed the program?
[01:22] <Hilikus> kitche you mean teh proprietary driver??
[01:22] <jdwilm> bitznbytes: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992 will tell you all about what works and doesn't work with my word in wine.  However, I'd recommend just using openoffice.
[01:22] <JuJuBee> I used that to convert vieos from my phone to avi
[01:22] <kitche> Hilikus: yes that is the binary driver
[01:22] <JuJuBee> It has many formats to select from
[01:22] <purplestar> JuJuBee: no good to me
[01:23] <shaba1> How about you had done it this way. "Shaba2: wait until the programs are downloaded THEN press ctrl+backspace that will reboot your system"
[01:23] <shaba1> see
[01:23] <purplestar> JuJuBee: I want to convert flv to 3gp using a GUI
[01:23] <ASULutzy> Tweakerz: Weird, I don't know. I'd file a bug report over that one. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Maybe post on the ubuntu forums as well as the virtualbox forums. I'm not exactly a networking pro
[01:23] <shaba1> that gives the proper order when I did no know what that would do.
[01:23] <vocx> nickrud, I meant he selected the programs in a graphical way, so it's not as easy as sudo aptitude install and then list of the packages, just that.
[01:23] <shaba1> I just did what you told me
[01:23] <JuJuBee> What so special about gui?
[01:23] <nickrud> shaba1 just go back to add/remove, and start the install again
[01:23] <Tweakerz> ok thanks
[01:23] <shaba1> nickrud: that is my point
[01:24] <nickrud> shaba1 if you have issues, I'll be around for a bit
[01:24] <Tweakerz> im going keep googling been looking for 30 mins already with no answers
[01:24] <vocx> shaba1, I did, but you left the channel then, I mean I wanted to clarify... sorry mate. But it was a great experience for you wasn't it?
[01:24] <JuJuBee> This site will convert flv to 3gp
[01:24] <Hilikus> kitche ok, thanks a lot
[01:24] <shaba1> I had 86  files that were downloading and installing
[01:24] <shaba1> I have no idea what all of them were
[01:24] <Yooshi> I have a particular app that runs in wine, and it says there is no internet... is there a way to show it the internet?
[01:24] <nickrud> ouch
[01:24] <shaba1> No problem vocx
[01:25] <kitche> Hilikus: I believe it's because nvidia didn't want nv to have the specs for tv out since they are the ones that help write the nv driver
[01:25] <shaba1> I left the channel becasue I did the command you told me and the system rebooted
[01:25] <vocx> shaba1, linux is fun, welcome!
[01:25] <jdwilm> Anyone know which option is needed with xinit to create a second xserver using a config file other than the default?
[01:25] <nickrud> shaba1 you do remember what you selected in add/remove, though?
[01:25] <nouvo> haha
[01:26] <kiel> Hello. Someone ca talk spanish?
[01:26] <nickrud> !es | kiel
[01:26] <dan_> what might cause the update manager to no t be able to open?
[01:26] <shaba1> nickrud: Well I am going thru the list again now and trying to figure out what I had picked
[01:26] <kiel> gracias!
[01:26] <effie_jayx> kiel, si, para español ve a #ubuntu-es
[01:26] <shaba1> Oh well
[01:26] <Yooshi> alright, does anyone know of a good weather program that has no spyware like weather watcher?
[01:27] <dan_> can t open sy nap tic eitehr
[01:27] <vocx> dan_, another instance running already
[01:27] <effie_jayx> anyone having issues with the b43-fwcutter since the last update?
[01:27] <dan_> none
[01:27] <shaba1> Like I said vocx sorry if I was being harsh
[01:27] <shaba1> but its one of my pet peeves with IT people including myself
[01:27] <dan_> well th ta i knwo of
[01:27] <dan_> hmmm
[01:27] <nickrud> dan_   try  gksu  synaptic   in a terminal, see what errors you get
[01:27] <vocx> shaba1, no problem I like them harsh.. you a girl right?   sorry bad joke
[01:27] <dan_> k
[01:27] <effie_jayx> my wifi works but one log into the desktop the light for the wifi goes off
[01:28] <vocx> dan_, close every program you may have open and then try again
[01:28] <dan_> it tries to start but closes immedialtely
[01:29] <nickrud> dan_  try   sudo apt-get -f install
[01:29] <shaba1> and thanks for trying to help nickrud
[01:29] <nickrud> shaba1 yeah, I can imagine how frustrating that was ;)
[01:30] <vocx> shaba1, the panels are back at least?
[01:30] <dan_> segmenttation faulty tree .... 50%
[01:30] <nickrud> dan_ oh, that one. A sec, I've seen that before
[01:30] <snurdle> hi
[01:30] <shaba1> yeah
[01:30] <dan_> what ever that m eans ---- oh?
[01:31] <snurdle> nice channel you have here
[01:31] <shaba1> Hey speakigng of that vocx
[01:31] <effie_jayx> my wifi chaged by itself to disable "b43-phy0: Radio hardware status changed to DISABLED"
[01:31] <shaba1> I use to have two little 'squares' to the left of my trashcan icon in the bottom panel
[01:32] <shaba1> then yesterday I did something and they are gone
[01:32] <shaba1> #1 What were those
[01:32] <shaba1> #2 do I need them
[01:32] <ariel_> any easy way to get java scripts install for FireFox 3.0 ?
[01:32] <cycom> shaba1: desktop switchers.
[01:32] <cycom> shaba1: no.
[01:32] <shaba1> #3 If so how do I get them back
[01:32] <cycom> shaba1: but they are handy.
[01:32] <jrib> shaba1: they let you switch workspaces.  You can add it back
[01:32] <vocx> shaba1, workspaces, like multiple desktops, add them again, select a panel
[01:32] <bazhang> shaba1, right click add to panel workspace switcher
[01:33] <nouvo> i'm an artist
[01:33] <cycom> shaba1: right click on the bar at the bottem, click add to panel, and then find 'Workspace switcher'
[01:33] <vocx> shaba1, very useful to have 4 workspaces or as many as you want
[01:33] <bazhang> nouvo, this is not a chat channel; please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <vocx> bazhang, he's been saying random nonsense all evening it's actually amusing
[01:33] <nickrud> dan_ sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin && sudo apt-get update
[01:34] <dan_> ok
[01:34] <RAdams> whats the command to find out what kind of trackpad I have? I can't remember. Want to say it was something about /proc... :(
[01:34] <JFlash> why do i get this error when the folder is valid http://rafb.net/p/UtBbp594.html
[01:34] <newclimb> I got a problem with a audio when I see videos anyone can help me?
[01:35] <stodge> Anyone using a Creative CT6480 webcam with Ubuntu?
[01:35] <DistroJockey> RAdams,  maybe:  sudo lspci -v
[01:35] <vocx> JFlash, use it without the $ sign, you are exporting the variable not what it expands to
[01:36] <RAdams> DistroJockey: Yeah, tried that, didn't have what I wanted. BUT I just found what I was looking for: $cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:36] <brianherman> my sound still doesn't work
[01:36] <vocx> JFlash, why are you using the root account? Do you know you don't actually need it?
[01:36] <brianherman> somethings wrong with kde
[01:36] <dan_> nickrud you are  a genius thanks
[01:36] <DistroJockey> RAdams, ahh, cool :)
[01:37] <brianherman> can someone help me with kde sounds?
[01:37] <newclimb> anyone?
[01:37] <brianherman> i can't get it to work
[01:37] <shaba1> very nice
[01:37] <newclimb> my sound when I see video on youtube do a strange noise
[01:37] <vocx> shaba1, the power of workspaces
[01:37] <nickrud> there's nothing about ubuntu that's not
[01:38] <vangogh82jena> \#gaydads4sons.de
[01:38] <ramier> whats the best tool to make dvd video out of some xvid .avi
[01:38] <vocx> ?
[01:38] <cycom> !ops vangogh82jena
[01:38] <shaba1> ok how do I get the adobe flash player for firefox
[01:38] <JFlash> guys, when i use  export -p i can see it has been added several times to the PATh
[01:39] <JFlash> what's the syntax to remove it?
[01:39] <shaba1> I know its and apt-get command
[01:39] <cycom> heya Jack_Sparrow, is that the right trigger?
[01:39] <shaba1> but now exactly what it is
[01:39] <vocx> JFlash, you don't remove it, construct the path again cleanly this time.
[01:39] <nickrud> shaba1  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport
[01:39] <erpo> ramier: devede
[01:39] <ramier> devede
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> cycom add a bang or > in there but it worked...  There are usually ops here and I would suggest you give us a chance before waking the others up
[01:40] <nouvo> haha
[01:40] <vocx> Jack_Sparrow, since when you become a boss? Nice.
[01:40] <nouvo> bis!
[01:40] <cycom> Jack_Sparrow: I just assumed it notified the local ops in channel...
[01:40] <cycom> Jack_Sparrow: I hope it doesn't set off alarm bells or something XD
[01:40] <JFlash> ok but how do i do it?
[01:40] <nouvo> i like oysters
[01:40] <nickrud> cycom bells all over :)
[01:40] <JFlash> do i use quotes or not?
[01:41] <shadowh511> hey, i got kind of a weird question for you guys, how do i login to frets on fire?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> cycom it rings bells all over the place
[01:41] <JFlash> PATH="<content>"
[01:41] <cycom> It's like when you open the door in the server room at work without using your prox card
[01:41]  * nickrud salutes the new boss, same as the old boss ;P
[01:41] <JFlash> or path=<content>
[01:41] <cycom> we literally have a fire bell that goes off right over this poor sod's head.
[01:41] <Flannel> cycom: You put a bar (|) in between the factoid and the rest of the line
[01:41] <vocx> Jack_Sparrow, by the way I don't think that was a bad thing he just mistook the forward slash with the backslash, he wanted to join a channel
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> vocx We still dont need that type in here
[01:42] <shadowh511> how do i login to frets on fire from gdm?
[01:42] <cycom> vocx: not only that, but it didn't have \join, it just had some channel name.
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> vocx If I read it correctly ..
[01:43] <vocx> JFlash, variables are case sensitive, so do PATH=/usr/bin:/bin/:  etc, you can use the quotes but is not really that important, if you want to expand other variables.
[01:43] <JFlash> anyone?
[01:43] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow you did
[01:43] <JFlash> ok
[01:44] <shadowh511> How do I add entries to the sessons menu?
[01:44] <vocx> Jack_Sparrow, cycom yoo may be right.    But that was funny cycom ringing the ops without the bar (|)    hilarious
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> vocx Wanna see sumtin REALLY funny.. continue the offtopic
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> shadowh511: what are you trying to add?
[01:46] <shadowh511> frets on fire
[01:46] <ramier> what program do people use to burn music cds, specifically flac albums with a .cue
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:46] <vipester> My WPA doesnt work so Im editing /etc/network/interfaces, and when I do that my NM no longer detects networks.  Does that mean If I edit that file I can no longer use that GUI?
[01:46] <vocx> Jack_Sparrow, at least other mods nagged me with private messages... no, that was a joke, last one I swear
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud you know that with tab complete one letter difference it could have been you...
[01:48] <vocx> vipester, I read somewhere something about that, specially in the release page.
[01:49] <shaba1> Ok downloading the flash pluging
[01:49] <vipester> release page, where is that?
[01:49] <shaba1> whild I am doing that
[01:50] <shaba1> how do I tell what video driver ubuntu is using
[01:50] <vocx> vipester, where you go to download ubuntu and get info on the new release and known issues
[01:50] <vipester> oh ok
[01:50] <shaba1> I had a heck of a time getting a 1024 X 768 desktop display
[01:50] <plovs> is tracker-search-tool broken?
[01:50] <shaba1> and still do not know how I got it :D
[01:52]  * nickrud shakes in his boots
[01:52] <vocx> shaba1, read the logs for X, or use "lspci", or "dmesg" or read the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"  actually there are many ways to get the information on what driver you are using. Maybe there is already some pretty GUI in the System menu that will show this.
[01:52] <JFlash> guys help
[01:53] <JFlash> http://rafb.net/p/iqq2i990.html
[01:53] <JFlash> did i set java_home right?
[01:53] <JFlash> java still pointing to old java
[01:53] <vocx> JFlash, I told you "export $JAVA_HOME"    "export JAVA_HOME"   see a difference?
[01:53] <JFlash> i thought i did not have java installed
[01:53] <JFlash> should i use without the $ ?
[01:54] <vocx> JFlash, export exports the variable not its contents
[01:54] <nickrud> JFlash try sudo update-alternatives --config java , that's the standard way to choose jvm in ubuntu
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> anybody here know why when i'm using vncserver on my laptop, a friend can log into my laptop no prob, but i've done the same thing on my PC.. and he can't get into my pc, #vnc is a ghost town
[01:55] <david_> um my dad has a prob on windows can someone help?
[01:55] <simcop2387-lap> ok quick question, what packages should i install so that i can build a kernel module (thats not part of the kernel) for ubuntu
[01:55] <chetnick> Hi, when i connect to my ftp server (running vsftpd) from my  ubuntu using nautilus and try to download folder i get this error "There was an error copying the file into /home/tux/Desktop." "File unavailable". When i try to download file it works fine. When i use different ftp client (gftp) it works fine. Does anybody know why is like that?
[01:55] <david_> er or know what the windows server is?
[01:55] <david_> gaaaaahhhh
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> !windows | david_
[01:55] <vocx> JFlash, do you want to program in Java? If so I would suggest going to the programming talk for more assistance.
[01:55] <esac> does anybody know how i can get a true type font working ? i copied it to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts and did an fc-cache /usr/share/fonts/truetype/fonts with no luck
[01:56] <bazhang> david_, wrong channel.
[01:56] <brianherman> uh how do i set the default sound card ?
[01:56] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, can I try to log into you PC?
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: sure, join me in #Indygunfreak
[01:56] <JFlash> no i need to install eclipse!!!
[01:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> esac: so you put it in the folder you *didn't* run fc-cache on?
[01:56] <david_> yeah i know do you know what the channel is bazhang
[01:57] <david_> ?
[01:57] <airstrikeivanov> Hello everyone. How do I install OpenGL on my machine? I have an Intel graphics card.
[01:57] <JFlash> ubuntu only givees me 2 options, none of them is the one is installed right now
[01:57] <bazhang> david_, you are in there already; please /part here.
[01:57] <esac> Daisuke_Laptop, nevermind, i just rebooted and it shows up, and sorry i typod, i meant myfonts is what i ran fc-cache on
[01:57] <JFlash> how do i get ubuntu to list my custom installation?
[01:57] <vocx> IndyGunFreak, I know you got all excited about it, but I'll have to pass.   Gotta drink some water.
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> vocx: lol, ok... thanks.
[01:58] <airstrikeivanov> !opengl
[01:58] <vocx> JFlash, "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre"
[02:00] <bob_> I need some help when I start synaptic I get this messange:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:00] <Bill> anyone having issues connecting to secured networks on the wusb54g's?
[02:00] <vipester> what is meant by "roaming" in wireless networks?
[02:00] <bazhang> bob_, run that command
[02:00] <MrWizeGuy1983> anybody here good with ushare?
[02:00] <localgod11> Please help Hardy freezes on install
[02:00] <shaba1> vipester: it mean that you can connect to any access point in that network
[02:01] <localgod11> actually I cant even get is to run the live cd
[02:01] <Bill> roaming usually means that it is searching for signals in the air. if you take it off roaming you have to connect to a network you know is there
[02:01] <bob_> ok
[02:01] <localgod11> I after I select install the screen changes but freezes shortyl after
[02:01] <shaba1> you are not restricted to only being able to long in to a specific access point to get net acess
[02:01] <ace_suares> ace is in the house !
[02:01] <localgod11> the ubuntu loading screen
[02:01] <shaba1> Well adn what bill said too
[02:01] <JFlash> guys seriously
[02:01] <shaba1> :)
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> localgod11 To get live cd to run this often helps..At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:01] <shaba1> I did not want to confuse you with that port
[02:01] <JFlash> why ubuntu is getting on my way
[02:02] <Bill> is anyone having trouble connecting to secured wireless connections on the wusb54g's?
[02:02] <JFlash> i just want to  do  java -version and see the 1.6.0  listed
[02:02] <JFlash> that's all
[02:02] <DistroJockey> localgod11, you will probably have better luck using the Alternate CD
[02:02] <JFlash> i have it in a folder already
[02:02] <Wispring> hello every one. I am a newbie to ubununtu. I am trying to teach myself how to use PHP. I have installed Abyss  Web Server and am trying to configure it. So far no succes. I believe I need to give the webserver executable read,write, and perhaps execution permission to complete this step using the chmod command. Does this seem to be about right? Am I on the right track?
[02:02] <ace_suares> localgod11: did you try a memtest that is on the install cd ?
[02:02] <Bill> its one of the more common usb wireless adapters, from linksys..
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[02:03] <localgod11> ace_suares: I downloaded and ran memtest 2.00
[02:03] <bob_> I get this:dpkg --configure -a dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[02:03] <localgod11> ran for 10 min came back fine
[02:03] <Bill> bob sudo su
[02:03] <bazhang> bob_, use sudo
[02:04] <siavash> hola! can anyone help out a poor soul here?
[02:04] <bob_> ok
[02:04] <ace_suares> localgod11: did you run the testg cd for defects that is on the install cd ?
[02:04] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, in my case even that did not work, instead of the noapic i had to add vga=771,, so what is the issue there?
[02:04] <localgod11> ace_suares: yep
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Bill try to avoid sudo su
[02:04] <Bill> oh, how come?
[02:04] <ace_suares> !questions > siavash
[02:04] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: sudo -i right?
[02:04] <siavash> !questions
[02:04] <siavash> oops
[02:05] <ace_suares> localgod11: you might try noacpi as an option to the boot kernel
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> orphean yes or sudo -s  to hold it for a session  as it is.. it holds for 15 minutes
[02:05] <ace_suares> !acpi
[02:05] <localgod11> trying removing quite and splach atm
[02:05] <orphean> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :)
[02:05] <Bill> acpi is the powermanagement
[02:05] <ace_suares> localgod11: ok
[02:05]  * ZLemur swears off linux again. smurf it.
[02:05] <Wispring> hello every one. I am a newbie to ubununtu. I am trying to teach myself how to use PHP. I have installed Abyss  Web Server and am trying to configure it. So far no succes. I believe I need to give the webserver executable read,write, and perhaps execution permission to complete this step using the chmod command. Does this seem to be about right? Am I on the right track?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor video  / res detection
[02:05] <ace_suares> Wispring: you had yoru answr already.
[02:06] <bob_> Atfer Iv did this is there any thing else to do
[02:06] <siavash> ok i managed to strip myself of all administrative rights, but now I added myself to the sudoers list. But i need to know how to restore my other administrative previlages. and users-admin doees not work. can anyone help otu?
[02:06] <ace_suares> I'll give it again
[02:06] <ace_suares> !lamp | Wispring
[02:06] <localgod11> right now i get vcc_getsockopt+0x150/0x170
[02:06] <ace_suares> siavash: how did you strip yourself of admin rights ?
[02:07] <siavash> i dunno, i think i used the wrong command to add myself to a group
[02:07] <JFlash> what would be a good directory to install eclipse under?
[02:07] <shaba1> how do I tell what video driver ubuntu is using
[02:07] <siavash> i'm not in the administrators group anymore
[02:07] <shaba1> I had a heck of a time getting a 1024 X 768 desktop display
[02:07] <ace_suares> siavash: try 'grep admin /etc/group'
[02:07] <siavash> but i added myself explicitly to the list of sudoers
[02:07] <shaba1> and still do not know how I got it :D
[02:07] <ace_suares> siavash: does your username come up ?
[02:07] <cycom> JFlash: uhhh, whereever apt-get install eclipse puts it?
[02:07] <joetheodd> I've put the following line in root's crontab, but apparently it's not running. Any suggestions?            0 2 * * * apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> shaba1 if you got 1024x768  I will make a guess that you are running vesa
[02:08] <siavash> no my username doesn't come up
[02:08] <Bill> er
[02:08] <JFlash> noo
[02:08] <ace_suares> joetheodd: it's * * * * * not * * *
[02:08] <vipester> Since my network/interfaces didnt refer to wlan0, default dhcp was used correctly.  But I am going to edit that file to get WPA to work.  NM stops working when you do this, and the release page says I have to manually reenable it... how?
[02:08] <JFlash> i dont want to install from the reps
[02:08] <JFlash> i have a tar.gz already
[02:08] <vipester> I meant etc/network/interfaces file above
[02:08] <ace_suares> siavash: are you still root or able to be root in terminal window ?
[02:08] <joetheodd> ace_suares, it's 0 2 * * * to execute at 2AM
[02:08] <siavash> i can use sudo
[02:08] <shaba1> Most likely Jack_Sparrow
[02:08] <JFlash> what about this one  /usr/lib32/eclipse/
[02:09] <Tweakerz> how can i manually load iwl3945 module?
[02:09] <siavash> i think sudo -i should work
[02:09] <JFlash> how does that sound?
[02:09] <ace_suares> joetheodd: soory the line broke i only saw * * * :-)
[02:09] <shaba1> But when xubuntu intially boots u with teh startup splash screen
[02:09] <nickrud> JFlash what I did was create a dir ~/local , then extracted eclipse there , then sudo ln -s ~/local/eclipse/eclipse  /usr/local/bin
[02:09] <Herissy> alright I bridged my connections successfully.
[02:09] <joetheodd> ace_suares, worlds largest resolution ftw :)
[02:09] <ace_suares> joetheodd: in any case i would not mess with the root crontab but go to /etc/cron.d
[02:09] <siavash> yea i can be root in the terminal
[02:09] <shaba1> its definately a <800 X 600  screen
[02:09] <Herissy> dial-up over the wireless network.
[02:09] <nickrud> JFlash that way if I do a reinstall, I don't have to reinstall eclipse
[02:09] <shaba1> it adjust by the time I get to the log in screen
[02:09] <localgod11> who is phillip lougher
[02:10] <ace_suares> joetheodd: and then add a file called upgrade (or any other name)
[02:10] <Herissy> now next thing, I still need access to my VNC server and router which I have to neither.
[02:10] <joetheodd> ace_suares, same format as a crontab, or a sh?
[02:10] <ace_suares> joetheodd: and put '2 0 * * * root command'
[02:10] <shaba1> I just want to know what driver its using and how I got it to the right resolution
[02:10] <hittingpilot> Hello, I'm having problems installing a windows game in Ubuntu 8.04 using wine, it's an EULA agreement problem, they have a script that makes you scroll down to the bottom to make the accept button become available and it's not working
[02:10] <joetheodd> ace_suares, alright, sweet
[02:10] <ace_suares> joetheodd: yes except after time comes usename root in this case./
[02:10] <shaba1> I kinda just fumbled about yesterday untill it looked right
[02:10] <JFlash> nickrud:  sounds great but links are too advanced for me . i'm 100 per cent newbie
[02:10] <nickrud> shaba1 you would need to examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to determine the driver. Wish there was an easier way
[02:11] <joetheodd> ace_suares, would this work?    2 0 * * * root apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[02:11] <nickrud> JFlash trust me, you wanna learn links ;)
[02:11] <Synx_hm> Is there a simple way to turn off the auto wireless scanning that ubuntu does so i can run some pen tests while still in X and not have the network mon keep changing the channel of my card?
[02:11] <siavash> ace_squares: is there a command line i can use to restore my previlages or just add myself to the admins group?
[02:11] <ace_suares> siavash: then do this: 'adduser yourusername admin'
[02:11] <shaba1> so nickrud gksudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ? is that correct
[02:11] <ace_suares> siavash: your user should be able to do sudo again. Make the chanegd in suoderd undone.
[02:11] <localgod11> When I ran noapic apic=off It still freaazes and returns unable to execute /bin/sh for rc-default: no such file or directory
[02:11] <nickrud> JFlash wherever you put the eclipse executable, you'll need to it on the path somehow. That   sudo ln -s does that for you
[02:11] <nickrud> shaba1 yes
[02:12] <joetheodd> ace_suares, nevermind, i got it :)
[02:12] <nickrud> shaba1 but you don't need sudo simply to read it
[02:12] <ace_suares> joetheodd: way to go !
[02:12] <localgod11> rc-default main proccess (6576) terminated status 255
[02:12] <siavash> ace_suares: thanks a lot, adding myself to the sudoers list was probably the hardest step :)
[02:12] <SeaPhor> vipester, check (/join #SeaPhor)
[02:12] <shaba1> ok nickrud  and I have a follow up question on eclpise too
[02:12] <onats> i was in the middle of upgrading ubuntu, to 8.04, when a power failure happened! now i cant boot.. i just get a blank wallpaper!
[02:12] <ace_suares> siavash: it was good work :-)
[02:12] <shaba1> but first let me try to find out how I got the correct screen res
[02:13] <Elijah> VISTA SUCKS - sorry but I just spent forever trying to get a internet connnection share with xp that i just used fine in ubuntu and now it doesnt work, it previously worked fine before i booted into ubuntu
[02:13] <Elijah> i got it on a roadtrip installed on laptop and have just been to lazy to format off
[02:13] <ace_suares> onats: first, buy an ups :-)
[02:13] <orphean> onats: do you have access to a livecd? if so you can boot into that, mount your drive and then chroot into your ubuntu filesystem to complete the upgrade from the command line
[02:14] <onats> ace_suares, i have one, but it seems that the battery is alread ybusted! :((
[02:14] <siavash> ace_suares: while I'm here i should ask this other question, I've been trying to get my MP960 canon printer to work, I found a driver that works marginally. I tried to get it to work under vmware but it gives me the blue screen every time it starts to print. Apparently it's a known bug. Do you know if using virtual box would be better? or of any other ways to get my printer to work properly?
[02:14] <ace_suares> onats: second.. i have no clue waht to do. You muight go to the terminal (alt-ctrl-f1) and login, and rund apt-get -f install BUT I AM NOT SURE>
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Elijah Does it work if you power all the way off before switching to ubuntu
[02:14] <nickrud> ace_suares that's very good advice
[02:14] <localgod11> When I try to instll hardy its freezes. I tried removing quite and splash while adding noapic apic=off to the boot paramters, however it still doenst boot and returns rc-deafult main process terminated
[02:14] <Elijah> Jack_Sparrow, hi there
[02:15] <ace_suares> nickrud: the apt-get -f install ??
[02:15] <nickrud> ace_suares yes, from ctl-alt-f1
[02:15] <Cold_Fire> hey guys, i need a little help with my networking
[02:15] <ace_suares> nickrud: well we need alt-ctrl-f1 and freinds when we have no X :-)))
[02:15] <ace_suares> !question > Cold_Fire
[02:15] <onats> ahhh there we go.. ace_suares, good thinking!:D
[02:15] <Cold_Fire> i can see my windows file server from my laptop but i cant log in
[02:15] <airstrikeivanov> Is Compiz-fusion still a usable program in Ubuntu, or do I have to use whatever software that Ubuntu is running in the Appearance menu?
[02:15] <onats> its proceeding with the upgrade, hopefully it works
[02:16] <nickrud> ace_suares but, it's usually a good idea to mention ctl-atl-f7 at the same time :)
[02:16] <onats> and i ran sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:16] <Elijah> my xp worked find with vista ics and then i booted into ubuntu and got ubuntu to work through vista ics, now i booted back to xp and vista has 2 connections , one of which is a "unidentified network" that will not allow a rename or deletion.
[02:16] <onats> which asked me to do a dpkg reconfigure
[02:16] <cycom> airstrikeivanov: I think it is running compiz fusion.
[02:16] <ace_suares> nickrud: I think onats shoudl reboot after apt-get -f install :-))0
[02:16] <]RandoM[> how do i connect to an openvpn server in ubuntu
[02:16] <cycom> airstrikeivanov: you can always install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:16] <Cold_Fire> i can see my file server computer in its workgroup and all. when i double click the network icon i cant see any of the files or folders that ive shared
[02:16] <Cold_Fire> help?
[02:16] <MrWizeGuy1983> airstrikeivanov, the appearance menu references compiz fusion, you can install further controls though
[02:16] <airstrikeivanov> I think I finally got OGL installed. Wine kept crashing when I told it to run OpenGL though.
[02:17] <nickrud> onats that completes package configuration that didn't quite get there;    sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[02:17] <shaba1> ok nickrud that am Ilooking for in that file?
[02:17] <]RandoM[> i installed the openvpn package, but there doesn't seem to be any interface for it and i don't know what to do with my cert/ key files to connect
[02:17] <Elijah> wierd that there are only 200+ people in the windows channel when windows has 90%+ market share, how is it linux has 2% and had 10x the users ?
[02:17] <ace_suares> Cold_Fire: how did you set up windows networking ?
[02:17] <ace_suares> !samba | Cold_Fire
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Elijah
[02:17] <Cold_Fire> yeah, i get this error: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[02:17] <nickrud> shaba1 probably about 300-400 lines in, it will talk about recognizing the video card and what driver it's using. Probably radeon, vesa , nvidia , fglrx
[02:17] <MrWizeGuy1983> Elijah, there's a reason for that, people who use windows don't like it, people who use ubuntu love it
[02:18] <Elijah> Jack_Sparrow, how do i private message like that
[02:18] <ace_suares> Cold_Fire: please read the links obottu sent you and then come back with more precise questions,.. ok ?
[02:18] <Elijah> MrWizeGuy1983, nice point
[02:18] <cycom> or the vast majority of linux users are smart enough to use IRC because they know computers pretty well and that IRC is a good help resource
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm
[02:18] <seria-mau> omnicompletion in vim doesnt work for me with python/C/C++ but works fine with html
[02:18] <cycom> whereas most windows users are not computer-experienced.
[02:18]  * nickrud never irc'd in the first 4 years of linux usage
[02:18] <bazhang> Elijah, MrWizeGuy1983 please take chat elsewhere
[02:18] <Elijah> !pm Jack_Sparrow  thanks
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Elijah see the | or >  after the factoid
[02:18] <onats> nickrud,the powerfailure probably happened during  package configuration, i was asleep when it happened. heheh
[02:19] <Cold_Fire> ace_suares, i set up my network normally in vista on my pc, the other computers on my network can see it (they are all on windows) but my laptop in ubuntu cant see it
[02:19] <ace_suares> Elijah: Jack_Sparrow sned you an awer from the robot. The robot nows SOME words and you can activate it by !word
[02:19] <Yooshi> I'm trying to install stomp theme, when I go to the gnome theme manager the theme does not appear, I see part of the theme in the titlebar customization which makes no sense... how do I apply the whole theme? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Stomp?content=82961
[02:19] <MrWizeGuy1983> eh, windows users are like stating a race or gender cycom, everyone uses it almost, even i do sometimes
[02:19] <localgod11> When I try to install hardy it freezes. I tried removing quite and splash while adding noapic apic=off to the boot paramters, however it still doenst boot and returns rc-default main process terminated
[02:19] <ace_suares> try !question (at the beginning of the line)
[02:19] <Cold_Fire> *can see it but cant browse it*
[02:19] <]RandoM[> does anyone know how to connect to an openvpn srver? i googled but all i get is how to setup the openvpn server not how to connect via client
[02:19] <shaba1> anyeay
[02:19] <Elijah> !pm Jack_Sparrow did this work?
[02:19] <luke> hi people
[02:19] <Elijah> Jack_Sparrow, !pm test
[02:19] <nickrud> shaba1 if you put it on paste.ubuntu.com , I'll take a look
[02:19] <mohamad> hi
[02:19] <]RandoM[> !question does anyone know how to connect to an openvpn srver? i googled but all i get is how to setup the openvpn server not how to connect via client
[02:19] <bazhang> Elijah, stop
[02:19] <Yooshi> ubottu: unfortunately you're beyond inteligent
[02:19] <shaba1> thanks nickrud. Too much info in ther e fro me to read
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Elijah No and please dont PM without asking as I indicated earlier
[02:20] <ace_suares> Elijah: listen!
[02:20] <mohamad> hi
[02:20] <K^Holtz> on my desktop, sometimes my firefox just stops loading. If i click the FF icon, it will come up with Starting Firefox, but then it will never actually load up. When this occurs, if i try to click the 'Shut Down' button, that will also not display. Others programs load up fine however
[02:20] <nickrud> shaba1 once you get the structure, it's pretty simple
[02:20] <seria-mau> i opened a *.py file in vim (set filetype gives "filetype=python") and did "set omnifunc=pythoncomplete#Complete" but when i try to complete e.g. impo with c-x c-o nothing happens (not found)
[02:20] <ace_suares> wow this gets confusing
[02:20] <shaba1> I will do it in a minute nick
[02:20] <ace_suares> !ubottu
[02:20] <shaba1> I am still doing thos download
[02:20] <ace_suares> !question > mohamad
[02:20] <shaba1> 52 of 139 btw
[02:20] <shaba1> Ok
[02:20] <Elijah> bazhang, sorry, just learning here
[02:20] <nickrud> seria-mau probably get better help in #vim
[02:20] <shaba1> next linux newbie question
[02:20] <luke> Just downloaded Xchat :0
[02:21] <bazhang> !enter | shaba1
[02:21] <MrWizeGuy1983> good call luke, i like xchat too
[02:21] <Hilikus> im trying to install the proprietary nvidia driver in hardy and im getting this error
[02:21] <Hilikus> ERROR: The kernel you are installing for is a Xen kernel!
[02:21] <Hilikus> what does that mean
[02:21] <MrWizeGuy1983> Hilikus,  you probably need envyng
[02:21] <Yooshi>  I'm trying to install stomp theme, when I go to the gnome theme manager the theme does not appear, I see part of the theme in the titlebar customization which makes no sense... how do I apply the whole theme? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Stomp?content=82961
[02:21] <Herissy> whats the restricted shared libraries to play dvd's again called?
[02:21] <ace_suares> Hilikus: that you should use another kernel unless you want to use Xen
[02:21] <ace_suares> !Xen
[02:21] <]RandoM[> xchat is great.. the only thing i don't like is how it automatically switches windows for windows that i have scripts that filter stuff to
[02:21] <luke> I can't seem to shut down from Ubuntu
[02:21] <Herissy> midbuntu?
[02:21] <luke> :/
[02:21] <shaba1> with windwos I can right click any webpage and click create shortcut to have a shortcut to that page put on my desktop. Is there a way to do that in xubuntu?
[02:21] <MrWizeGuy1983> Herissy, it's libdvdcss2
[02:22] <ace_suares> luke: what do you mean ? Thus the shutdown button not work ?
[02:22] <luke> Well...
[02:22] <Hilikus> it worked fine in gutsy, should i install Xen or use another kernel?
[02:22] <Herissy> medibuntu?
[02:22] <nickrud> Yooshi stomp is a metacity (window borders) theme, hit the customize button on the appearances dialog and change the border
[02:22] <ace_suares> shaba1: just draw the icon in front of the URL to the desktop
[02:22] <luke> I'm saying that I don't know how to shut down in Ubuntu
[02:22] <frosty> i can hear myself speak in my mic in my headphones...is there anyway to stop this? my ears are starting to hurt :(
[02:22] <luke> I can log off and then I'm forced to press the power button
[02:22] <ace_suares> Hilikus: I sent you alink via ubottu did you read it ?
[02:22] <anteaya> Herissy, yes medibuntu
[02:23] <Hilikus> ace_suares im looking at it
[02:23] <shaba1> draw
[02:23] <Yooshi> nickrud:  ah I wanted a full theme :(
[02:23] <shaba1> you mean drag and drop?
[02:23] <MrWizeGuy1983> luke, it should have a screen with several options when you click quit, one of them should be reboot and another shutdown
[02:23] <ace_suares> luke: go to System (in the menu) and choose Quit...
[02:23] <brianherman> hi can anyone help me with my soundcard
[02:23] <MrWizeGuy1983> how are you logging off luke?
[02:23] <luke> Ok thanks
[02:23] <Yooshi> nickrud:  how the heck do I know which is borders only vs full theming?
[02:23] <ace_suares> shaba1: yep
[02:23] <luke> Lol
[02:23] <luke> never noticed it
[02:23] <MrWizeGuy1983> :-)
[02:23] <ace_suares> !question > brianherman
[02:24] <luke> I could've found that out myself but wanted to ask
[02:24] <FastZ> luke, you can open a terminal window and type 'sudo shutdown now' and hit enter or 'sudo init 0' and hit enter.  both will shut the system down
[02:24] <ace_suares> luke: ubuntu doesn't want you to quit :-)
[02:24] <nickrud> Yooshi by the name:  gtk2 s the area inside the borders, metacity is the borders. Not many 'themes' out there, actually. Most people pick and choose
[02:24] <jon_high9000> is there anyone here that has any knowledge regarding LVM?
[02:24] <luke> Thanks for the help
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[02:24] <luke> I'm new to linux
[02:24] <ace_suares> !question > jon_high9000
[02:24] <Yooshi> nickrud:  ah ok ubuntu studio is a full featured theme
[02:24] <ace_suares> luke: we love newbies :-)
[02:24] <MrWizeGuy1983> kinda much trouble to shut down huh? generally i just hit quit and tell it shutdown :-p
[02:24] <brianherman> can anybody help me with my soundcard Audigy2
[02:24] <luke> Lol
[02:25] <luke> Well I installed it yesterday and can use the terminal a bit and have written some python scripts :D
[02:25] <shaba1> thanks ace_suares
[02:25] <Bill> i need help with my wireless card. i have a wusb54g and it wont connect to secured networks
[02:25] <ace_suares> shaba1: yourwelcome
[02:25] <shaba1> Ok now how do I do that with programs that I have install thru synaptic?
[02:25] <Bill> currently im using a neighbors
[02:26] <ace_suares> shaba1: what do you want to do with programs installed thru synaptic ?
[02:26] <RAdams> If anyone gets a chance to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5235464#post5235464, that would be awesome :)
[02:26] <shaba1> I hate having to go Application--->Developement .... e.t.c
[02:26] <RAdams> It's too long to post here
[02:26] <Yooshi> nickrud: http://envyouraudience.deviantart.com/art/MurrinaDark-Suite-83699615 I even have this one, yet again its not showing up as a full theme but this one has metacity, gtk, etc
[02:26] <shaba1> have a shortcut to the programs I use often on my desktop screen
[02:26] <RAdams> shaba1: what are you trying to do?
[02:26] <ace_suares> shaba1: yeah waht !?!?!
[02:26] <shaba1> have a shortcut to the programs I use often on my desktop screen
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> shaba1 Create a new launcher for them
[02:27] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: using gnome?
[02:27] <esac> is there a program similar to netstumbler that shows SNR for wireless networks.. i want to see how far my wireless network reaches so i can turn down the transmission power if needed
[02:27] <orphean> shaba1: drag the icon from the menu to your desktop :)
[02:27] <ace_suares> shaba1: go to the menu and pick you app, drag and drop to the desktop just liek the URL
[02:27] <shaba1> What?? Am I speaking chineses all of a sudden :)
[02:27] <Bill> yes im using gnome
[02:27] <Flannel> shaba1: Go to the program link in your meu, right click and "add link to desktop" or whatever the actual text is
[02:27] <brianherman> could anyone help me configure my soundcard with gnome?
[02:27] <luke> Bye bye
[02:27] <JDLSpeedy> on the top right there should be an applet
[02:27] <ace_suares> shaba1: there's a lot of scrolling going on sometimes I think shaba1 ? what was her problem again ? make whole sentences if possible.
[02:28] <FastZ> shaba1, when you go to the Application>Developement or whatever menu list, click and drag the application you use the most to an area on the desktop (might not work for menu items on Applications or Places, but I know this works on items listed on the main menu)
[02:28] <ace_suares> !questions > brianherman
[02:28] <Bill> the applet will say connected and what not, but no go
[02:28] <ace_suares> brianherman: yes, someone could if they only know what your question was
[02:28] <brianherman> my gnome cannot play sounds can you help me fix it?
[02:28] <earthengine> Hi, sometimes I need to rotate the monitor by xrandr -o left. How can I change the font rander mode from RGB to VRGB as well?
[02:29] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: you have static or dhcp setup?
[02:29] <nickrud> Yooshi looking at those, they don't have the index.theme definition included.
[02:29] <earthengine> I do not want to use the GUI, I want it to be done automatically
[02:29] <Bill> static
[02:29] <RAdams> If anyone gets a chance to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5235464#post5235464, that would be awesome :) it's too long to post here. Thanks alot!
[02:29] <ace_suares> brianherman: did you got o volume control and open your volume ?
[02:29] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: you setup static on the wireless adapter?
[02:29] <Yooshi> nickrud:  ah ok... so where can I get full themes?
[02:29] <Bill> i believe so yes
[02:29] <brianherman> ace_suares yes
[02:30] <ace_suares> RAdams: I looke dbut I have no clue sorry.
[02:30] <shaba1> ok none of those methods workd
[02:30] <shaba1> Neither click and drag
[02:30] <shaba1> or rightclick and add
[02:30] <jon_high9000> ace_squares: i saw the screencast for gutsy and i already downloaded the alternative disk (AMD64). I just wanted to make certain i go through it (LVM) so i don't screw up my computer.
[02:30] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: can you ping the router?
[02:30] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: by Ip address?
[02:30] <frosty> ace_suares, could you help me w/ my audio?
[02:30] <ace_suares> brianherman: can youi open a terminal and type 'cat /etc/passwd > /dev/dsp' and tell me what happens
[02:30] <shaba1> infact rightclick on the menu item did nothing at all
[02:30] <ace_suares> !questions | frosty
[02:30] <onats> what's the best desktop email client?
[02:31] <brianherman> device or resource busy
[02:31] <ace_suares> shaba1:  dont right clikc just drag the icon from the menu to the desktop
[02:31] <onats> evolution still?
[02:31] <Bill> well when i connect to my wireless i cant even get into the <IP_ADDRESS> address. so i dont think it will ping
[02:31] <brianherman> ace_suares: device or resource busy
[02:31] <ace_suares> onats: varies, i like kmail
[02:31] <annie_g> Hi - Anyone have a suggestion what to use to listen to internet radio - been using Tuna Pie with Audacious - But quit working for some reason? ?
[02:31] <frosty> i can hear myself (talking into my mic) in my headphones...is there anyway I can turn this off? (using ALSA)
[02:31] <Bill> JDLSpeedy: sorry, bet this helps
[02:31] <ace_suares> brianherman: okay something is using your output then
[02:31] <onats> ace_suares, you're on kde?
[02:31] <amenado> Bill make sure your host has an ip address and a default gateway first thing
[02:31] <shaba1> I tried that too ace_suares
[02:31] <ace_suares> brianherman: try 'sudo lsof |grep dsp'
[02:31] <shaba1> Let me try it again
[02:32] <ace_suares> onats: no on gnome but kde apps work too.
[02:32] <Bill> amenado: i know the wireless works for sure, can get on it with my laptop and gfs
[02:32] <shaba1> I just tried it again ace_suares
[02:32] <shaba1> nothing happened
[02:32] <amenado> Bill make sure your host has an ip address and a default gateway first thing <-- host == meant your pc not the Access Point
[02:32] <ace_suares> onats: i like kmail beacuse it has maildir mail dirs. Easy to backup.
[02:32] <ace_suares> shaba1: gnome or kde ?
[02:32] <jon_high9000> ace_suares: sorry about the typo on last message
[02:33] <Bill> amenado: ah, how would i check that, im getting one on the wireless im using now i guess?
[02:33] <Hermes> shift+alt+T launches terminal :D
[02:33] <ace_suares> jon_high9000: your last message scrolle dof my screen repeat please.
[02:33] <shaba1> xfre ace_suares
[02:33] <Hermes> Quite convenient that
[02:33] <onats> ace_suares, well i'm going to be using gmail  imap on it, so i wont need the backup part.. just need it to be able to sync to my phones (contact management)
[02:33] <FastZ> shaba1, which applications are you trying to add to your desktop?
[02:33] <amenado> Bill-> ifconfig ;  route -n
[02:33] <shaba1> xubuntu I assume use neter kde or gnome
[02:33] <brianherman> ace_swares: it comes up with a blank
[02:33] <ace_suares> onats: you asked what is the best I said it varies per person and that I like kmail.
[02:33] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: ya you do this on the laptop your having issues with
[02:34] <shaba1> FastZ:  I just want a general method of doing it
[02:34] <FastZ> shaba1, if you know the executable path to the application, you can just create a launcher on your desktop that will open the application when you double click on the icon
[02:34] <Tweakerz> can some body please tell me how to load a module for my wifi card
[02:34] <ace_suares> shaba1: i dont know if xubuntu has the possibility to do that.
[02:34] <Bill> amenado: wont that just do the ipconfig of the network im barrowing, that is unsecured
[02:34] <shaba1> Ok FastZ how do I do that
[02:34] <ace_suares> !wifi | Tweakerz
[02:34] <ace_suares> Tweakerz: look for modprobe (try 'man modprobe')
[02:35] <amenado> Bill in linux it is ifconfig  not ipconfig    and per JDLSpeedy ...issue this command on the non connecting host
[02:35] <brianherman> ace_swares that doesnt work
[02:35] <FastZ> shaba1, for instance, you can create a launcher for Firefox on your desktop by right clicking the desktop and selecting New Launcher (or something like that) and then naming it Firefox and then for the command field, type firefox (all lowercase) and then pick an icon and then you're done
[02:35] <Bill> amenado: ah, that means i have to disconnect from you guys, :o
[02:35] <ace_suares> brianherman: what does not work ?
[02:35] <ace_suares> FastZ: she is using Xubuntu.
[02:36] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: bad boy...
[02:36] <ace_suares> !xubuntu | shaba1
[02:36] <Tweakerz> ace_suares,  ok thanks one second, other mechine has no inet at all so kinda hard
[02:36] <amenado> Bill-> well if your box is dual boot, you haft to
[02:36] <brianherman> ace_suares when i do that command nothing pops up
[02:36] <FastZ> ace_suares, hmm, nevermind that then
[02:36] <Bill> i was hoping it was a common issue, that mayb a work around would fix, i tried another wireless application
[02:36] <Tweakerz> ace_suares, it shows no devices under modprobe
[02:36] <Bill> amenado: no not a dual boot, full ubuntu. and im on a desktop
[02:36] <ace_suares> brianherman: okay now go to System -> Preferences -> Sound
[02:36] <Hermes> I have a problem
[02:37] <shaba1> ace_suares: there is never anyone at the keys in the xubuntu room
[02:37] <shaba1> that is why I come here
[02:37] <Hermes> I'm using Ubuntu and sometimes I can't hear any sound
[02:37] <shaba1> trust me I have been in there
[02:37] <ace_suares> shaba1: sorry for that. Switch to gnome :-)
[02:37] <jon_high9000> ace_suares: i saw the screencast for and i already downloaded the alternative disk. i run AMD64. i'm just going through the motions of making certain it won't mess my computer up.
[02:37] <ace_suares> Hermes: define sometimes
[02:37] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: is there a way you can get on IRC and keep that non-working one connected to the wireless you can't get on?
[02:37] <shaba1> and I do mean every at the keys
[02:37] <Hermes> define?
[02:37] <brianherman> ace_suares: ok
[02:37] <amenado> Bill okay..go ahead and issue those commands  ifconfig ;  route -n to check for ip address and gateway
[02:37] <shaba1> I was in there for like a week
[02:37] <Hermes> What do you mean?
[02:38] <shaba1> every day and no one was talking
[02:38] <ace_suares> Hermes: yeah what do you mean by sometimes
[02:38] <Bill> JDLSpeedy: well thats the thing, ive never used irc but in linux, all other machines are ubuntu
[02:38] <Hermes> Oh sorry
[02:38] <Bill> amenado: i can try it and return in a moment
[02:38] <n1c0> hi all, I am facing a reboot issue with a toshiba tecra m2 running ubuntu 8.04. Anyone to help ?
[02:38] <Hermes> Well sometimes I can hear sound
[02:38] <Hermes> Sometimes no sound comes out the speakers
[02:38] <Hermes> Have no idea why
[02:38] <ace_suares> !question ? n1c0
[02:38] <Bill> JDLSpeedy: i meant all other machines are windows
[02:39] <ace_suares> !question > n1c0
[02:39] <JDLSpeedy> Bill: you can use xchat
[02:39] <amenado> Bill btw you can easily compare the gateway from the working unit you are on and the non connecting one
[02:39] <jon_high9000> ace_suares: the screencast was for gutsy from last year covering partitioning, LVM, AND RAID.
[02:39] <Hilikus> what's the kernel that ships with hardy?
[02:39] <ace_suares> Hermes: did you define sometimes? When sometimes :? What sometimes ? Just SOMETIMES ?
[02:39] <Hermes> Yeah
[02:39] <n1c0> the system hangs, the hd led remains on, no reboot happens
[02:39] <Hermes> Sometimes
[02:39] <Bill> amenado: the one not working is the one im on, it wont connect to secured networks, does unsecured just fine
[02:39] <raghav_> cool im in hi hermes
[02:39] <ace_suares> jon_high9000: O have no ide what you want sorry I have short memory. Install hardy 8.04 and it will be fine ?
[02:40] <Hermes> Hi raghav
[02:40] <Bill> amenado:  bummin off a neighbor but id prefer mine
[02:40] <Hermes> Look, just randomly
[02:40] <Hermes> I don't know when, just sometimes
[02:40] <brianherman> ace_suares: uh sorry
[02:40] <ace_suares> Hermes: I can not help you sorry.
[02:40] <jon_high9000> ace_suares: thanks.
[02:40] <brianherman> ace_suares im in sound prefs
[02:40] <Hermes> I don't think I ever had the problem in WIndows XP
[02:40] <Hermes> Ok
[02:41] <ace_suares> brianherman: okay now is it all on autedetect ?
[02:41] <amenado> Bill ah okay, good luck with wpa or wpa2 ecnryption
[02:41] <ace_suares> brianherman: btw close ALL your apps that use sound !
[02:41] <yrjokin> how do I activate my wifi (radio) for use with kwifi?
[02:41] <brianherman> ace_suares: ok
[02:41] <brianherman> uh
[02:41] <Hermes> Hey, the sounds working
[02:41] <Hermes> lol
[02:42] <ace_suares> brianherman: then put it on autoedetect (all of them) and then try the varuous TEST buttons
[02:42] <api984> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[02:42] <shaba1> ok ace_suares the drage the icon of the webpage in firefox's address bar to the desktop method did not work either :(
[02:42] <raghav_> yeah
[02:42] <Bill> amenado: yeah i have wep
[02:42] <ace_suares> Hermes: magical! You should stay on IRC forever :_)
[02:42] <brianherman> none of them work
[02:42] <api984> dont use WEP!!!
[02:42] <Hermes> Lol
[02:42] <raghav_> whats that?
[02:42] <ace_suares> shaba1: like i told tyou i have no knowledge of Xfce (Xubuntu)
[02:42] <Hermes> Damn, I thought I found the problem, but I didn't
[02:42] <raghav_> wep??
[02:42] <api984> use WPA
[02:42] <Hermes> It's just working now for some reason
[02:42] <orphean> wireless encryption protocol
[02:42] <orphean> its severely broken
[02:42] <api984> 20 char PSK keys
[02:42] <Yooshi> anybody know if linux supports side scrolling with those side scrolling mouse?
[02:42] <Bill> is that my problem?
[02:42] <Hermes> @_@
[02:42] <ace_suares> brianherman: open a terminal and do 'lspci | grep -i audio'
[02:43] <amenado> yrjokin-> a mere  ifup wlan0 should bring it up..assuming the nic name is wlan0
[02:43] <shaba1> thanks
[02:43] <api984> iwconfig
[02:43] <brianherman> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:43] <brianherman> 04:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[02:43] <Yooshi> well I'm lacking in work... unfortunately ugh
[02:43] <api984> ifconfig wlan0 up
[02:43] <Yooshi> I'll bbiab
[02:43] <shaba1> I meant thanks anyway ace_suares
[02:43] <api984> ifconfig ra0 up or ath0 up
[02:43] <FastZ> shaba1, im booting up my xubuntu machine so I can help you figure out how to create launchers on your desktop
[02:43] <api984> as su
[02:43] <vocx> Use WEP only in a deserted island where you know no one will try to steal your Internet connection
[02:43] <brianherman> i want to use audigy ace
[02:43] <Bill> api984: are you speakin to me?
[02:43] <api984> just advising
[02:43] <Bill> vocx makes since
[02:44] <shaba1> thanks FastZ I appreciate it
[02:44] <Bill> i was asking, i hadnt known wep was a bad option
[02:44] <FastZ> bare with me since this machine is running a 400Mhz Intel Celeron CPU and has only 128Mb of RAM
[02:44] <brianherman> ace_suares: uh this is what i got 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[02:44] <brianherman> 04:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[02:44] <n1c0> how can I know if the system is able to support reboot, hibernate, etc... ?
[02:44] <orphean> Bill: it provdes the illusion of security and will keep out folks who don't know any better. but then, those aren't the folks you tend to care about anyway! :)
[02:44] <raghav_> my contrast is so low i thnk i might have problem with ma screen or something
[02:44] <ace_suares> brianherman: you have TWO sound cards ?
[02:44] <shaba1> Which is one of the reasons I use xubuntu on this laptop FastZ
[02:45] <FAJALOU> n1c0: have you tried shutting it off?
[02:45] <FAJALOU> and normally hibernate isn't the best supported on linux overall
[02:45] <amenado> what is so wrong with using WEP or no encryption?  as if your signal is so strong it can be captured across town :P..btw look up meraki, they are fielding free wireless access
[02:45] <Hermes> What do you mean raghav?
[02:45] <n1c0> FALAJOU:  yep, halt is good but reboot, hibernate...
[02:45] <ace_suares> amenado: http://www.wirelessleiden.nl/
[02:45] <Bill> orphean: well, i didnt know that. is wep easily cracked? and i also heard there is a program in linux that can access any secured network andhow
[02:45] <Bill> anyhow*
[02:45] <cycom> Bill: a neighbor with a mac and a Prism II wireless card could crack your network in a few hours and 4 clicks.
[02:45] <shaba1> I spent twelve hours last November trying to get ubuntu installed until someone here told me that I did not have the memory and cpu speed to install it and I should try xubuntu
[02:46] <raghav_> i can barley see my screen the color is too low
[02:46] <raghav_> i think its the os
[02:46] <api984> WEP easy hackable
[02:46] <FAJALOU> n1c0: well reboot should be fine,,, and hibernate i wouldn't suggest using period, it's pretty hig and miss on linux
[02:46] <shaba1> 12 hours of my life that i will never get back
[02:46] <ace_suares> shaba1: what cpu and mem ?
[02:46] <raghav_> my vista worked fine
[02:46] <Hermes> Adjust the brightness then
[02:46] <vocx> amenado, I use WEP but I know no one around knows how to crack it. This is common in underdeveloped countries.
[02:46] <Bill> well im not protecting anything but bandwidth really, we had some free loaders bogging us down
[02:46] <cycom> shaba1: pays to read the docs first, huh? :)
[02:46] <raghav_> ok
[02:46] <ramier> whats the best feed reader for linux
[02:46] <raghav_> thanks
[02:46] <ace_suares> vocx: a 12 yr old hack our school WEP with his mobile phone in 30 sec without knowing what he was doing.
[02:46] <cycom> Bill: Mac filtering will do just as well, as long as they don't learn to spoof :)
[02:47] <FAJALOU> !poll | ramier
[02:47] <api984> WEP unsafe, WPA-PSK or PSK2 safe enught, MAC filtering doesnt help....
[02:47] <amenado> vocx  the concept is to share unused bandwidth if one can even get it...ever connect to one AP with a fading in and out signal?  hehe
[02:47] <n1c0> FALAJOU: ok. I read that people succeed on hibernating since they manage the screen backlight with toshset command
[02:47] <raghav_> maybe the sun is behin\d me so i have to sit were it is shade
[02:47] <ramier> >.<
[02:47] <raghav_> yeah......
[02:47] <ramier> i just want to know a good program since i don't trust google to tell me good programs
[02:48] <Bill> man i appreciate all the advice, any one know of the linux program i may have spoke of?
[02:48] <FAJALOU> hmmm n1c0 not sure, all i know is that i tried to put my computer to sleep and i had to reboot, but everything worked like i just came out of sleep, so it's pretty hit and miss
[02:48] <Bill> could of been a myth
[02:48] <vocx> amenado, the problem is of course not the normal guys, but those that want to download a lot with your connection
[02:48] <orphean> ramier: then ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots like ubottu mentioned.
[02:48] <cycom> Bill: you want us to tell you how to crack WEP?
[02:48] <brianherman> ace_suares: yes i have two sound cards
[02:48] <ace_suares> Bill what program ? Missed your q
[02:48] <raghav_> hey hermes
[02:48] <Kelen> Is that i need a new configuration for mplayer i just complete install.?
[02:48] <api984> Bill : what prog
[02:48] <amenado> ramier trust me, i have a crystal ball... :P
[02:48] <Hilikus> damnit, how can i tell if my kernel is xen?? the nvidia installer is claming so but i dont think so
[02:48] <raghav_> are you there?
[02:48] <n1c0> FALAJOU>ok
[02:48] <ace_suares> brianherman: probably some conflict them
[02:48] <cycom> Bill: I don't think that's going to go over too well in here :)
[02:48] <suweid> Is there a command that would allow only one copy of a program to run at at time? For example "onlyone firefox" starts firefox, but if I do another "onlyone firefox" before the first one termintes, it does nothing? I can easily write a script to do that, but I wonder if it's been done to death?
[02:48] <FastZ> shaba1, finally booted!  getting logged in.  I'll be right back
[02:48] <cycom> but I assure you, it does exist.
[02:48] <Bill> oh no, i just heard there was one out in linux that could login to any wireless network
[02:48] <brianherman> bill:http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/24244/98/
[02:48] <onats> damn, i'm having a hard time making this nvidia 7300GS card work
[02:48] <FAJALOU> ramier:  prism is ok, especially for google reader
[02:48] <cycom> as long as you ohave plenty of time.
[02:49] <shaba1> Cannot remember right now ace_suares too tired. I work 11pm-7:30 am and have only had 4 hours of slppe today
[02:49] <Hermes> Yeah raghav
[02:49] <FAJALOU> !language | onats
[02:49] <raghav_> ok
[02:49] <raghav_> cool
[02:49] <raghav_> ummmm...
[02:49] <amenado> vocx that the point ..if a signal is fading in and out..he's got one of a patience to sit there and download crap.. hehe
[02:49] <onats> damn is a bad language????
[02:49] <n1c0> FALAJOU> thank you
[02:49] <cycom> onats: what do you mean work?
[02:49] <cycom> onats: I don't think it is, but clearly FAJALOU does.
[02:49] <brianherman> suweid: yes you can do it in bash
[02:49] <shaba1> sleep that is
[02:49] <onats> weirdo
[02:49] <onats> lol
[02:49] <ace_suares> Bill: kismet ?
[02:49] <Bill> i know the person who told me about it, so ill find out from him.
[02:49] <Bill> hmm i can check that
[02:49] <FAJALOU> i just wanted to throw it out, it isn't necessarily family friendly
[02:49] <suweid> brianherman, how?
[02:50] <api984> AirCrack and Kismet... try Backtrack2 or 3 beta
[02:50] <raghav_> do you know that infrared  remote for linux do you think itl work ifi had irda
[02:50] <raghav_> ?
[02:50]  * Hermes is on IRC
[02:50] <raghav_> hermes?
[02:50] <cycom> FAJALOU: they can get away with it on network telivision.
[02:50] <onats> cycom, i can't get the video card to work properly. max resolution is 800x600, and no 3d acceleration. last time i check, it defaults to the failsafe mode of xorg..
[02:50] <Hermes> Yay
[02:50] <Hermes> Yes/
[02:50] <Hermes> Yes?
[02:50]  * Hermes beats raghav with fish
[02:50] <FAJALOU> cycom, they can get away with alot on network tv.
[02:50] <cycom> onats: did you install the restricted drivers?
[02:50] <onats> FAJALOU, do you live in a basement?
[02:50] <FAJALOU> no i live in the real world
[02:50] <Bill> Thanks for all the advice guys, i will be changing my wireless security later this evening, i have to get going now though. see you on some other time
[02:50] <onats> cycom, yes. when i go to the restricted drivers, the driver is ticked
[02:50]  * gway9000 kids use this irc as well dodo
[02:51] <FAJALOU> onats, is it nvidia?
[02:51] <Hermes> Yes raghav what is it?
[02:51] <onats> fajalou, yes it is
[02:51] <ace_suares> brianherman: go to sound prefs and change the autodetect. Do you see your sound cards listed ?
[02:51] <cycom> gway9000: first, that doesn't need to be a /me, and second, if kids are using IRC unsupervised, they're seeing a lot worse than 'damn'
[02:51] <brianherman> if [ -f <path_to_firefox> ]; then
[02:51] <K^Holtz> on my desktop, sometimes my firefox just stops loading. If i click the FF icon, it will come up with Starting Firefox, but then it will never actually load up. When this occurs, if i try to click the 'Shut Down' button, that will also not display. Others programs load up fine however. What might be causing this?
[02:51] <brianherman>     <path_to application>
[02:51] <brianherman> fi
[02:51] <FAJALOU> ok, i was having issues w/ this too, the #nvidia irc helped me out alot.
[02:51] <brianherman> suweid thats how u do it
[02:51] <D3RGPS31> Software Question - What are the default packages installed in Ubuntu for working with CDs (copying, burning)
[02:51] <Tweakerz> ace_suares,  i tried to manually load windows drivers but that did not work either
[02:52] <cycom> onats: anything in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:52] <suweid> Okay, thanks.
[02:52] <cycom> onats: specifically EE or WW?
[02:52] <FAJALOU> D3RGPS31: braesero
[02:52] <raghav_> this is mad i have now got two os to boot up with but i thinks ubantu has overwritten  vista and some files of it. hermes do you think i should system restore will that ork
[02:52] <raghav_> work?
[02:52] <ace_suares> brianherman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-you-change-the-default-sound-card-in-kubuntu-499520/
[02:52] <brianherman> ace_suares i see my audio card
[02:52] <frosty> does anyone know if bt.etree.org is legal?
[02:52] <D3RGPS31> Fajalou: would that be the package that adds the rightclick option to copy the CD?
[02:52] <FAJALOU> raghav_: does it want to do a hdd check
[02:52] <frosty> a lot of sources say it is....but i don't think i'm buying it...
[02:52] <ace_suares> Tweakerz: is this the wifi question ? first google if it is supported !
[02:52] <Hermes> Well
[02:53] <Hermes> I don't know if System restore will do anything
[02:53] <frosty> in the U.S.*
[02:53] <FAJALOU> D3RGPS31: i would think so, not totally sure but that is what starts up when i click that.
[02:53] <Tweakerz> it is supported
[02:53] <BluntObject> Hi
[02:53] <ace_suares> Tweakerz: it should load automatically then hwo do you know it's not loaded ?
[02:54] <onats> cycom, wait
[02:54] <ace_suares> Hi BluntObject
[02:54] <raghav_> i mean restore ubantu and leave vista as it is mayby itl free some hdd memory
[02:54] <raghav_> dont u think?
[02:54] <cycom> onats: Waiting :)
[02:54] <BluntObject> I'm looking for someone who is willing to mentor me into building deb packages for Ubuntu
[02:54] <D3RGPS31> Fajalou: it isn't D=
[02:54] <BluntObject> any takers here?
[02:54] <Herissy> is there something I can type into the terminal too see if I can get my dvd drive to wakeup test if its working?
[02:54] <Tweakerz> becouse when i type iwconfig nothing is listed
[02:54] <Hermes> Well that makes you think Vista doesnt work properly know?
[02:54] <FAJALOU> raghav_: the alternate install disk i believe has a system recovery opetion
[02:54] <ace_suares> BluntObject: i think you might try #ubuntu-developers
[02:54] <Peppery> Does anyone know if I can view the contents of a .tar.gz without extracting it in the shell?
[02:54] <BluntObject> ace_suares: Ok. Thanks.
[02:54] <FAJALOU> D3RGPS31: hmmm,
[02:55] <raghav_> yes try start which ever drive you have
[02:55] <Herissy> cause I push the button to open it but it won't open or light up or move.
[02:55] <orphean> BluntObject: Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU as well
[02:55] <Tweakerz> and when i modprobe it nothing comes up
[02:55] <ace_suares> BluntObject: sorry that channel is empty. One of the others.
[02:55] <raghav_> exeample start e:
[02:55] <raghav_> thats my drive
[02:55] <Hermes> Yes...
[02:55] <Hermes> go on
[02:55] <ace_suares> BluntObject: yeah orphean advice.
[02:55] <raghav_> it works with me
[02:55] <onats> cycom, failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[02:55] <shaba1> Not ignoring anyone
[02:55] <FAJALOU> D3RGPS31:  does anything come up?
[02:55] <Hermes> What are you talking about?
[02:55] <nickrud> Peppery just double click it in the file manager
[02:55] <onats> that's kinda weird
[02:55] <BluntObject> orphean? What does that mean?
[02:55] <raghav_> start e: thas my dvd drive so it works
[02:55] <D3RGPS31> Fajalou: on the rightclick menu, just the basics
[02:55] <Hermes> I don't understand
[02:56] <HackOfChris> Hello All
[02:56] <nickrud> BluntObject ask the guys in #ubuntu-motu about the mentoring program
[02:56] <Tweakerz> ace_suares,  yet it says the windows drivers are installed and hardware is present
[02:56] <orphean> BluntObject: he was referring to what I told you
[02:56] <Hermes> Hi
[02:56] <Hermes> I must say it's fun using another OS
[02:56] <Peppery> nickrud: I need to do it in the command line.