[14:20] <Robby_> Okay, I will change to the channel! Thanks!
[14:20] <ggherdov> what is a tool to check the integrity of a hard disk drive ?
[14:21] <ArielX_> yeats I just want to reinstall windows 8 completely again my my formal partition .. so how do I install windows 8 from ubuntu
[14:23] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  insert CD, reboot PC, install windows... ubuntu is not needed to install windows
[14:23] <ArielX_> my cd rom drive is not good. hence I can only install via usb but how
[14:23] <ArielX_> tried unebootin
[14:24] <ArielX_> no luck tried winusb same
[14:24] <chartley> hello
[14:24] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  better inform in ##windows how to install windows, i guess
[14:24] <chartley> problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox
[14:24] <sunny_le> is it possible to run graphical applications like firefox from chroot ?
[14:25] <Moonlightning> Hmm. Is it possible to install another operating system literally /from Ubuntu/?
[14:25] <chartley> initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black
[14:25] <ArielX_> monkeydult better off read my notes before advising concerning joining #windows
[14:25] <chartley> no install script
[14:26] <Frank81> any infos about opening big files in linux with ssh?
[14:26] <Moonlightning> I would think it would, given that *nix can do so much without rebooting.
[14:26] <chartley> problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black no install script
[14:26] <Frank81> nano and vi get killed
[14:27] <ArielX_> cd rom bad... if good no need to bother you guys... will only install via usb but no ubuntu/linux usb creator seems to work for the install e.g. unebootin/winusb
[14:27] <MonkeyDu1t> ArielX_  i'm not sure if windows can be installed to/from usb, better inform in ##windows
[14:29] <chartley> anyone familiar with this issue? i successfully installed/ran ubuntu on mac. unable to install linux ubuntu on windows. (problem installing ubuntu onto win 7 32 virtualbox initializes bios, then shows purple bar across top of vb screen then fades to black no install script)
[14:30] <ArielX_> lol... okies.. o yes windows can bro
[14:33] <faugusztin> chartley: is the ISO image 32-bit too ?
[14:33] <chartley> yes
[14:34] <faugusztin> chartley: did you tried using text based installer (network installer) ?
[14:37] <chartley> which architecture for win7 32? powerpc?
[14:39] <Perchik> hi
[14:39] <lolu> chartley: what version of vbox are you on
[14:39] <chartley> 4 newest
[14:40] <zohan> clear
[14:40] <lolu> chartley: if its > 4.1.18, it should work
[14:41] <dumbledork> it appears my unity lenses are broken
[14:41] <chartley> yes. i know it should. it worked for me with mac. im unsure what the problem is.
[14:41] <dumbledork> I can't searcha pps any more
[14:41] <dumbledork> what do I do
[14:41] <bekks> chartley: use the nomodeset boot parameter.
[14:41] <dumbledork> unity-lens-applications is already the newest version.
[14:45] <mapps> why do some people say do gzip and then tar why not just do tar -zxvf file.tar.gz?
[14:46] <bekks> mapps: Because not everyone in this world uses a GNU implementation of tar.
[14:46] <mapps> aha
[14:46] <mapps> thanks
[14:49] <dumbledork> guys I can't launch apps
[14:49] <dumbledork> help
[14:49] <zohan> guys
[14:49] <zohan> good night
[14:51] <gordonjcp> !help | dumbledork
[14:52] <dougiel> !patience
[14:53] <Guest44769> hello all
[14:54] <Guest44769> Having trouble with the Nvidia Proprietary Driver on the latest updates to 12.04
[14:54] <zohan> hi
[14:54] <dougiel> dont you need to reinstall nvidia drivers after a kernel update?
[14:55] <dumbledork> sorted it
[14:55] <Guest44769> It seems that after blacklisting Nouveau and installing the Nvidia driver, that unity is not working. Has anyone else had issues with Unity after installing the Nvidia driver?
[14:55] <Guest44769> BTW,  installed the driver directly from Nvidia
[14:56] <zohan> do you remember about linus torvald's video and nvidia ????
[14:59] <MonkeyDu1t> zohan  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[15:00] <zohan> yes
[15:00] <Guest44769> I would like assistance correcting issues with Unity that may be related to installing the Nvidia Proprietary driver. I don't understand how things broke at this point
[15:00] <zohan> MonkeyDu1t,  i need a instruction about nvidia instalation
[15:00] <zohan> it's a nvidia geforce 610 m
[15:01] <zohan> and my OS is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:01] <Guest44769> Nvidia was working fine and so was unity prior to install the most recent updates within 12.04
[15:02] <Guest44769> After updating Ubuntu, the linux kernel was again using the Nouveau driver and Nvidia was removed completely. I blacklisted Nouveau and updated initramfs and installed the Prop driver which is running in the Kernel, however, Unity doesn't seem to be loading
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: can you run: dpkg --get-selected    and paste the output
[15:06] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: what kernel are you using?
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: sorry: dpkg --get-selections
[15:06] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0 - will do
[15:07] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: and what is the output of uname -r
[15:08] <Guest44769> actually one small issue - I'm on my Windows box now, and my Ubuntu box is seperate.... Possible to pastebin the results?
[15:08] <Ari-Yang> Guest44769: what's the output of uname -r?
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:08] <Guest44769> Ari-Yang, yes I'll get that now
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[15:09] <Guest44769> Ari-Yang - 3.2.0-54-generic
[15:11] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, paste.ubuntu.com/6227135/
[15:12] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, rather  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6227135/
[15:13] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, I should also note that I dropped to tty level 1 or ctrl + alt + 1
[15:13] <Guest44769> I did that on purpose
[15:15] <Guest44769> Btw, if I believe the problem is more that Unity is not loading as apposed to an issue with the video driver, what should I do to determine that.
[15:15] <pfifo> I noticed that my apache's virtual host configuration is not working as expected, I havent the slighetst idea whats going wrong here, Ive seen 2 documents describing the same details of how to set this up in ubuntu, and from reading the docs provided by apache them self, every thing should be in order... however, bothe my domains and my ip address are still pointing to the default site.
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> did you just update 2.6 to 3.2?
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> unity relies on compiz with uses 3d acceleration
[15:16] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, I can't be certain. The kernel would have only been updated if included in the updates. would not have attempted myself
[15:17] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, aha, I probably then broke it myself when adjusting compiz-config settings?
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> possibly
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> what did you adjust in compiz?
[15:18] <Guest44769> I activated the cube, and checked dbus
[15:19] <Guest44769> not much else I can think of, however, I noticed that the cube was only displaying 2 workspaces rather than 4
[15:19] <Guest44769> also of note, compiz crashed twice... meh
[15:21] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, is my real issue with Unity and Commpiz?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> not sure, could still be graphics
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> you able to get glxgears running and verified your graphics is running ok?
[15:23] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, no....let me try getting back to the GUI... Gnome in this case
[15:25] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, what command should I run to get back into Gnome if X is already running
[15:25] <djp5592> Hey, i'm looking for some help on whitelisting external media (USB Flash drives) using udev rules.  Plan is when it's plugged in, it will check the serial against the udev rule, and if it matches, it's good to go, and if not, it runs a script.
[15:26] <pfifo> I noticed that my apache's virtual host configuration is not working as expected, I havent the slighetst idea whats going wrong here, Ive seen 2 documents describing the same details of how to set this up in ubuntu, and from reading the docs provided by apache them self, every thing should be in order... however, bothe my domains and my ip address are still pointing to the default site.
[15:27] <Walex2> djp5592: just read the docs...
[15:27] <Walex2> pfifo: that's not the right way of thinking as in "still pointing to the default  site.
[15:28] <Guest44769> hitsujiTM0, rebooted and at the Gnome Desktop, with no tool bar or unity present. What should I do to attempt troubleshooting?
[15:28] <djp5592> i have Walex2, but i'm running into some errors now so i'm looking for some other help
[15:28] <Walex2> pfifo: do you understand the difference between name based and IP based vhosts?
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592: but it is rather unlikely to find here someone who just knows a topic as narrow as writing 'udev' scripts
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592:  you may get lucky...
[15:29] <Walex2> djp5592: also note that you are asking for help on doing something rather than fixing a problem.
[15:30] <djp5592> Walex2: I understand all of this, i'm just trying to exhaust all my options
[15:30] <Walex2> djp5592: then write here what specifically does not work in your current attempt, and perhaps someone will have a look.
[15:30] <Guest44769> How can I load unity/gnome if all I have is my desktop icons?
[15:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: ALT-F2?
[15:30] <lolu> djp5592: what you got till now
[15:30] <njsg> Walex2: the problem with udev scripts is that more than half of the time, you'll inevitably encounter people who are like "why do you want to change the behavior!?=!?!?!?!??!ONE The defaults are enough!"
[15:31] <njsg> Walex2: the syntax has changed over the times, so some examples you can find on the internet are not up-to-date
[15:31] <Guest44769> Walex2, the combo does nothing
[15:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: or switch to a console, login and then 'env DISPLAY=:0 unit' or whatever
[15:31] <djp5592> I have it so that it will generally work, it will notice when a non-whitelisted device is plugged in, but then it crashes instead of running the script, and then says that it has an error executing the script
[15:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: or switch to a console, login and then 'env DISPLAY=:0 unity' or whatever
[15:31] <pfifo> Walex2: yes, fully... I removed the ServerName directive from my apache.conf, I had added this when I first set everything up to get rid of the warning... Now everything is operting as expected for the virtual hosting... However this is troubling, how do I get rid of this warning?
[15:31] <njsg> djp5592: what are you trying to do?
[15:32] <djp5592> whitelist USB device serial numbres using udev, and confgure it to run a script if a non whitelisted device is plugged in
[15:32] <Walex2> pfifo: 'ServerName' works with both IP based and name based, so something is very wrong if you have to remove it
[15:32] <Guest44769> Walex2, how do I now get back to the Desktop from the console?
[15:33] <njsg> djp5592: as in, to restrict the flash media that can be used with your computer?
[15:33] <pfifo> Walex2: ok... so... what is wrong?
[15:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: CTRL-ALT-F7 or another one of the F-keys
[15:33] <njsg> Guest44769: ctrl+alt+f7
[15:33] <djp5592> exactly njsg
[15:33] <Walex2> pfifo: that requires psychic powers from a distance
[15:33] <njsg> Guest44769: ctrl+alt+fX switches to virtual terminal number X, X-Windows usually runs on 7
[15:33] <Guest44769> Walex2, still no unity
[15:34] <njsg> Guest44769: does the terminal when you ran "unity" show any error?
[15:34] <pfifo> Walex2: do it to it... what do you need?
[15:34] <Guest44769> njsg, maybe, let me try again
[15:34] <Walex2> Guest44769: then do the same again with 'env DISPLAY=:0 xterm', go back to the GUI and then try various things in the newly existing terminal console
[15:34] <njsg> djp5592: hmm, what happens when it does not work (when it does not trigger the script for a non-whitelisted device)
[15:34] <njsg> Guest44769: error messages can be quite helpful for some things
[15:34] <Walex2> pfifo: you haven't sai what does not work, and given no details at all.
[15:35] <djp5592> it yells.  a lot.  keeps trying to run the script and just gives me errors saying udev can't run it
[15:35] <Guest44769> njsg, apparently, a number of paths aren't registered....
[15:35] <Guest44769> Pastebinit?
[15:35] <lolu> pfifo: what warning/error do you get. Are there other virtualhosts enabled etc would be helpful
[15:36] <ThoughProcess> yo
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> ya
[15:37] <cgtdk> ow
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> good times tinite
[15:37] <ThoughProcess> you see me, i c U
[15:37] <pfifo> Walex2: I currently have apache installed on my precise server, I am trying to set up name based virtual hosting, when I enabled the new site, everything worked as expected, however when i start apache it gives this warning 'apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName' How do I get rid of it?
[15:38] <Walex2> pfifo: djp5592: both of you seem to misunderstand how tog et help in IRC. IRC is a low bandwidth, high latency messaging system, with volunteer helpers. It is not very suitable if you expect someone to stand over your shoulders and explain how to do things. It is more suitable to fix specific issues that are fairly common.
[15:38] <wylde> djp5592: does udev have exec rights on the script? Have you tried chown'ing it? IS the script chmod +x'd?
[15:38] <ThoughProcess> where is Automatic?
[15:38] <Guest44769> njsg, can you provide some insight into what might be causing the unregistered paths, and how to register them?
[15:38] <djp5592> Walex2: i know full well how it works, but i dont have many options left, so i'm trying
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> i tried uBuntu but had connect issues!
[15:39] <djp5592> wylde: it's chmod'd, but it actually may be owned by root.  should i chown it to the regular user or to someone specific
[15:39] <Walex2> pfifo: having a look
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> had to get a seperat installed packet to get it WorkinG
[15:39] <Guest44769> hmm, looks like I was also a bit mistaken in that, the output states it was attempting to unregister some paths
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> could not stand iT!
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> want a windows 8.1 computer
[15:39] <ThoughProcess> Ibuypower Revolt
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> got a windows 7 computer
[15:40] <wylde> djp5592: I'm just wondering if your issues aren't permissions related based on the one comment you made about udev not being ab;e to run the script.
[15:40] <bekks> ThoughProcess: Whats your specific ubuntu support question?
[15:40] <djp5592> that's a fair option, i can give it a shot.  thanks
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> oh, my bad, Thank yoU
[15:40] <wylde> djp5592: Trying to come up with hints on where to look.
[15:40] <ThoughProcess> bekks
[15:40] <djp5592> yeah wylde, thats really what i need
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> can i just get online bekks, by running Ubuntu off a flash drive?
[15:41] <Guest44769> Would like some help getting unity running once again
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> "unity" right
[15:41] <Walex2> pfifo: The Apache2 dæmon tries to figure out a name for a vhost, for various reasons. One way it does it is by looking at DNS, and another by the 'ServerName' directive.
[15:41] <bekks> ThoughProcess: No. The medium Ubuntu is installed on is not releated to your requirements to get online.
[15:41] <wylde> djp5592: if you cat /etc/passwd do you see any user that looks specifically related to udev? Possibly udevd
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: is the server statically assigned an ip or dynaimically?
[15:41] <ThoughProcess> thnx bekks
[15:42] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: static, <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: the address you give resolves to a valid DNS entry, so rhe Apache2 server should be able to do the same.
[15:42] <Guest44769> confused, but sure
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: therefore it is likely that there is something wrong with the DNS setup on the server, outside Apache2.
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> edit your /etc/hosts    and add: <IP_ADDRESS> hostname fqdn
[15:42] <Walex2> pfifo: check the contents of '/etc/hosts' for example.
[15:43] <Guest44769> Could I remove unity using Apt-Get and re-install?
[15:43] <djp5592> wylde: there is not
[15:43] <Walex2> Guest44769: sure, but that is *very rarely* needed.
[15:43] <pfifo> Walex2: how can I figure out what name it thinks it has
[15:43] <Walex2> pfifo: it cannot find a name, but that address does map to a DNS entry.
[15:43] <njsg> Guest44769: pastebin, please
[15:44] <Guest44769> hang on all, I'm just dumping unity and re-installing
[15:44] <Walex2> pfifo: in any case using 'ServerName' is always valid, so if something stops working if you use it, *something else* is broken.
[15:45] <Guest44769> Well that certainly didn't fix it
[15:45] <pfifo> Walex2: I have forward and reverse dns all set up for pyp2p.org -> <IP_ADDRESS> and... hitsujiTMO putting an entry in the hosts file dosent seem like a fix, it seems like a kludge
[15:45] <Guest44769> njsg, what would you like me to pastebin? the command from earlier? it  failed to output to pastebin
[15:45] <Walex2> pfifo: putting that entry in the '/etc/hosts' is not necessary as your DNS is already setup right.
[15:46] <pfifo> Walex2: I think it sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to the virtualhost matching that server name
[15:46] <wylde> djp5592:  I'm looking here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man7/udev.7.html and here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man8/udevd.8.html for hints.
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: what is possivble is that there is an inapproppriate line in '/etc/hosts'...
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: "sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to  the virtualhost matching that server name
[15:46] <pfifo> Walex2: let me check
[15:46] <gulag2013> Is there a way to pin a downloads directory to the unity bar. I got the desktop unlocked, but the unity bar is still stubborn with adding folders?
[15:46] <Walex2> pfifo: "sees the server name directive, and from then on points all traffic to  the virtualhost matching that server name" is exactly what it should do, can you say why that would be wrong?
[15:46] <Guest44769> attmepting to pastebinit again
[15:47] <lolu> pfifo: jsut add ServerName localhost to your apache2.conf
[15:47] <pfifo> lolu: that breaks namebasedvirtual hosting
[15:48] <Walex2> pfifo: I have the suspicion that you want to have both an address based, and a name based virtual host on the same IP...
[15:48] <lolu> pfifo: no it does not. I've it running on my machine
[15:48] <pfifo> Walex2: no >I< dont, but it could be accidentally setup like that
[15:48] <Guest44769> njsg, when I attempt to pastebinit using the command env DISPLAY=:0 unity, the command stops half way with and I need to use Ctrl + C
[15:48] <pfifo> lolu: Ill try
[15:49] <Walex2> pfifo: you may need to read *carefully* http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/vhosts/details.html as the rules are sometimes subtle.
[15:50] <Guest44769> njsg, an example line of output is "Attempted to unregister a path (path[0] = org path = freedesktop) which isn't registered
[15:50] <djp5592> let me try throwing out my other idea, instead of using udev, i can write the serial number of the drive to a file, hash that file.  if a new device is plugged in, have it write the serial to a file and hash that, and if there is a mismatch, then run the script.  the issue would be making it see the new drive, then find it's serial, and do the hash and hash comparison
[15:51] <lolu> pfifo: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername
[15:51] <pfifo> lolu: ok that worked, but it also seems to be a kludge, now im guessing all my virtual hosts that use localhost are broken, but since I dont use localhost on my server, I cant test it. This could create a problem if I use php to fetch files from localhost though so Im still pretty worried
[15:52] <lolu> pfifo: ServerName directive has two purposes
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> Guest44769: normally it's a last resort but you could try reinstall the desktop or unity: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity    or    sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[15:53] <Guest44769> hitsujiTMO, attempting to re-sintall
[15:53] <lolu> pfifo: you can make entries to /etc/hosts and add a few hosts mapped to <IP_ADDRESS> to test things out. For  eg. add mysite <IP_ADDRESS> and use that as the servername for your vhost
[15:54] <kingplusplus> ssh -v -C -D 9100 root@IP please how do i automate this command to reconnect itself
[15:54] <Guest44769> this should be interesting
[15:54] <njsg> Guest44769: that sounds like dbus
[15:55] <njsg> Guest44769: I'm not used to dbus (all my machines don't use dbus) but it sounds like a message from dbus ("org path" and all that)
[15:55] <Guest44769> is DBUS even required?
[15:55] <njsg> Guest44769: I'd maybe guess that there's some problem with the dbus bus or X didn't start dbus as it should for unity
[15:56] <pfifo> lolu: this is a remote server, so Its much more complicated than that
[15:56] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'dbus' is pretty much central to almost everything most recent desktop environments do.
[15:56] <njsg> Guest44769: well, I think that the things ubuntu uses by default are very dbus-centric, I'd not be surprised if it failed without dbus, but I'm not certain
[15:56] <Guest44769> sounds like a likely candidate then
[15:56] <njsg> (that said, you *don't* need dbus to run a linux system)
[15:56] <lolu> pfifo: then you need domains pointing to that machine if you want to use name virtual hosting.
[15:57] <Guest44769> njsj, I like that train of thought because it seems like maybe unity broke when I enabled Dbus within Compiz-Config
[15:58] <Guest44769> does anybody know the exact name of the compiz-config package, or did I type it correctly?
[15:59] <Rory> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:59] <pfifo> lolu: I have 2 domains so far pointing to my server
[16:00] <njsg> Guest44769: it could also be that it does not require dbus, but if dbus is started in some way, it will require something more to work too; but I really doubt it does not require dbus
[16:00] <lolu> pfifo: that means you can have two name virtualhosts.
[16:00] <somsip> kingplusplus: use autossh
[16:00] <pfifo> Walex2: ok, im 99% by default, ubuntu installs apache in such a manner that it is ready for namebased virtual hosting.
[16:01] <Guest44769> njsg, when I first installed compizconfig-settings-manager Dbus wasn't enabled
[16:01] <lolu> pfifo: ubuntu *does* set up apache ready for namevirtualhosts. the warning u saw was absolutely harmless with no implications.
[16:02] <Walex2> pfifo: yes, because in 99% of cases that's all that is needed.
[16:03] <Guest44769> hmm, unity is still not working even after re-installing the ubuntu desktop
[16:04] <pfifo> lolu: so I guess I cave to choose betwee, getting the warning, or having broken vritual hosting?
[16:04] <lolu> pfifo: adding the ServerNAme in apache.conf does not break namevirtualhosts.
[16:05] <lolu> pfifo: if it does on your system, it must be the way vhsosts are set up
[16:05] <Walex2> Guest44769: try to start it entirely from scratch...
[16:06] <Guest44769> Walex2, please elaborate as it not intuitive to me
[16:06] <Walex2> Guest44769: which means: login to the console, type 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :4' and then when you get a new X session with an 'xterm' window type just 'unity' as the command
[16:06] <mynameisnotdave> cd huggle
[16:07] <mynameisnotdave> oops lol#
[16:07] <Guest44769> ok, Walex2, from the desktop, I did Ctrl + Alt + 1 and logged into the terminal I've also stopped lightdm and now I'm going to follow your command
[16:07] <Guest44769> should that still work
[16:07] <Walex2> Guest44769: yes
[16:08] <Guest44769> um yea, so I got a very small xterm window and not able to type in it
[16:09] <pranav> which program to use to connect to remote desktop of ubuntu from windows ?
[16:09] <Walex2> Guest44769: that's very unlikley
[16:10] <compdoc> pranav, using which service?
[16:10] <compdoc> vnc?
[16:10] <Guest44769> unlikely but factual
[16:10] <Walex2> Guest44769: that also means that your X-windows setup is not good because the DPI setting is wrong.
[16:10] <pfifo> lolu: Walex2 ok I think I see whats happening here, my apache.conf's ServerName is pyp2p.org right. Now later on I have a specific virtual host section for pyp2p.org, that also has a ServerName set to pyp2p.org... so I guess that when I surf to pyp2p.org its matching the ServerName in the apache.conf first.
[16:11] <pranav> compdoc: thanks for it. i just wanted to login to my ubuntu server from windows
[16:11] <Guest44769> Walex2, what are my next steps?
[16:11] <Walex2> pfifo: note that the address you gave was for 'admin.pyp2p.org' not for 'pyp2p.org'.
[16:11] <compdoc> pranav, then vnc. As a client for win7, I like www.tightvnc.com
[16:11] <pranav> i mean not using putty. literally unity desktop
[16:11] <pranav> compdoc: Thanks :)
[16:11] <Walex2> pfifo: and of course it is pretty wrong to have two 'ServerName's which are the same.
[16:11] <compdoc> pranav, thats is you enable vino, the ubuntu desktop sharing
[16:11] <Walex2> Guest44769: blah! Wait a sec.
[16:12] <compdoc> *if you
[16:12] <pfifo> Walex2: yeah, to get the cool hostname on IRC
[16:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: kill your new X session, the one with the too-small 'xterm'.
[16:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: just go back to console 1 and kill the 'xinit'.
[16:13] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you have a more or less standard desktop or laptop monitor with a DPI of around 100?
[16:14] <pfifo> Walex2: so I guess Ill go with what lolu said and use localhost as my main servers configuration, even if I do setup some named virtual hosts using /etc/hosts and <IP_ADDRESS>, everything will work as expected. Anyway, things are working as expected and I now know why there operating that way, my issue is solved. thanks
[16:15] <Walex2> pfifo: that sounds a bit of a bad idea, depending on what you really want to achieve.
[16:15] <Daeinar> reload
[16:15] <pfifo> Walex2: what do you mean?
[16:15] <Walex2> pfifo: read carefully about the 'NameVirtualHost' directive and its limitations...
[16:16] <pfifo> Walex2: im not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking for... What sounds like a bad idea?
[16:16] <gulag2013> Is there a way ot pin/lock a directory to the Unity bar?
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: yopu may want to do something rather different, which is to run two different Apache2 dæmon instances, one bound to <IP_ADDRESS> if you want to do development, and one bound to <IP_ADDRESS> if you want to do public serrvices.
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking  for
[16:17] <subz3r0> does any1 know a good site which describes how the bash interprets things like . or ? and * etc..?
[16:17] <Guest44769> Walex2, not sure what you ment by standard.... I do have an Nvidia GT220 video card if that helps
[16:17] <Walex2> pfifo: "not going to just go reading something without a clear idea of what im looking for" is the manual for what you are trying to do. If you want to do a non-trivial config and you can;t spare the time to read the manual, you are in trouble.
[16:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: not the video card, the *monitor*. Ho many inches diagonal and how many pixels HxW?
[16:19] <Walex2> Guest44769: if your 'xterm' was too small, that means that the X server miscalculated the DotsPerInch
[16:19] <Guest44769> Walex2, diagnal is 22, not sure on the pixels
[16:19] <Walex2> Guest44769: almost surely 1920x1080...
[16:19] <pfifo> Walex2: I have read the documentation, several times over the years, and have a very idea how this works... so having read the docs, Im not seeing a problem with what I said, and I really really dont think having another read is going to make a problem pop up in my mind.
[16:20] <Guest44769> Walex2, How can I change that then from the terminal?
[16:20] <Walex2> pfifo: the questions you have asked show that you don't understand how Apache2 handles virtual hosts, and admittedly the fine points of that are rather subtle.
[16:20] <lolu> pfifo: adding the ServerNae directive to aoache.conf totally fixes your problem. All you need to read up is http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername which will tell you that ServerName set in server level is used just to identify the server. You do not need to think much more.
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Walex2: you dont need 2 instances of apache for 2 ips!
[16:21] <Walex2> hitsujiTMO: mo, but it makes some situations a lot easier.
[16:21] <lolu> pfifo: yes, just like hitsujiTMO told you do not need 2 apache instances at all.
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> it doesn't make things easier its a waste of reosurces
[16:22] <pfifo> Walex2: Im saying I understand it, your saying I dont. But yet you cant say what I dont understand?
[16:22] <Guest44769> how can I change my resolution from the terminal?
[16:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: run the command again on a console like this: 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :4 -dpi 110'
[16:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: if your X session comes up in the "native" resolution that should give you a suitable 'xterm'.
[16:24] <lolu> pfifo: if your problem is solved, its solved. I can guarantee that the ServerName directive in apache.conf wont affect anything other than suppressing the warning you had while starting the server.
[16:25] <Guest44769> Walex2, no luck. same result
[16:26] <lolu> pfifo: http://serverfault.com/questions/103426/apache2-could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name should settle this
[16:26] <pfifo> lolu: yes, thanks again. I think Walex and I got off track on what I was trying todo from /etc/hosts, which is a non-issue at this point'
[16:27] <lonewulf85> Hello is there anyone with experience with adding mkvtoolkit to Ubuntu 12.04 x64?
[16:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: then kill it and try again with: 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4'
[16:27] <someking> hi guys, is ubuntu 13.10 already stable enough to update?
[16:28] <cgtdk> someking: You should probably wait until it is released
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: what lulu is suggesting is the usual suggested fix to the extremely common warning ... it's even suggested in the ubuntu community docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[16:29] <Guest44769> Walex2, Better but still no keyboard. BTW better means the Xterm window now covers about 1/3 of the screen
[16:29] <lolu> someking: release is on Oct 17, wait until after that
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> someking: wait for release
[16:29] <someking> cgtdk: ok, thanks. I already have 13.10 on my notebook because of a wifi problem on 13.04 and i wanted to have the same on my desktop
[16:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: what do you mean "no keyboard"?
[16:29] <Guest44769> unable to enter characters
[16:29] <cgtdk> someking: Try upgrading the kernel on your 13.04 installation
[16:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: that is again extremely unlikely.
[16:30] <Guest44769> Walex2, but again that's completely factual....
[16:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: however it can happen is you have no system 'udev' dæmon and no system DBUS dæmon
[16:30] <lonewulf85> never mind just having a blond moment fixed.
[16:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: because if the X server has an empty configuration, it will try to configure things by asking 'udev'/DBUS.
[16:30] <Guest44769> Walex2, how can I check for that and subsequently correct it?
[16:31] <Walex2> Guest44769: Howeverm you can still do an explicit X windows configuration that may also fix your other X windows issues.
[16:32] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: thats the fix im running with.
[16:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: try to copy this file to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf': http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf
[16:32] <Guest44769> Walex2, that leads me to another thought, WOuld I need to edit the X.org file created by the Nvidia installer?
[16:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: probably...
[16:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: if you are using the nVidia binary installer, there is a whole lot of other potential trouble you are getting into.
[16:33] <Guest44769> ok, now to find the Nvidia version of the file
[16:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: why aren't you using the Ubuntu provided or the x-swat team provided packages for the nVidia driver????
[16:34] <Walex2> Guest44769: the file I suggested should give a working X server with *antyhing*. It won't be optimally configured, but it should have all the basics covered.
[16:34] <Gallomimia> right. so i'm booting up a new system using a ubuntu 13.04 iso. so far i've had no luck, for once i get it booted or into the installer, the mouse and keyboard quit working. any suggestions?
[16:34] <Guest44769> Walex2, because I downloaded the driver directly from Nvidia using 3.19.17... can I still use the x-swat or ubuntu provided file?
[16:36] <cordyceps> mplayer wouldn't play oggs even though it has the codec. So I installed mplayer2 using Synaptic Pkg Mgr. Now it doesn't play anything. VLC works though.
[16:36] <Walex2> Guest44769: ideally you should dinsinstall the nVidia driver and install the ready-made packages. But note that disinstalling is not totally trivial.
[16:36] <real> Im looking to install ubuntu on a netbook (atom cpu)
[16:36] <Walex2> Guest44769: anyhow, save your current 'xorg.conf', put in the minimal one I suggested, and let's see what works.
[16:37] <real> where can i find more info?
[16:37] <Guest44769> Walex, at this point I'd like to fix any issues with the Nvidia Xorg.conf and udev/Dbus if needed
[16:37] <djp5592> real: should be straightforward.  install ubuntu to a flash drive, and boot to that, and install from there
[16:37] <djp5592> i would use unetbootin to put ubuntu to the flash drive
[16:38] <Walex2> Guest44769: we don't know which issues you have yet. So let's start from the beginning. The impression I got is tht you messed around a bit with your system without fully predicting the consequences...
[16:38] <ampw> any text editor like geany that works well on ubuntu
[16:38] <Guest44769> Walex2, how can I determine which config file is in use by Xorg?
[16:38] <cordyceps> real: beware SSD, the older ones require ext2, can't handle newer fses.
[16:38] <xtriz> why is that i can start some service in root and other not ? any specific reasons ?
[16:38] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a rule, it is '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' unless there is an argument that selects another one.
[16:39] <cordyceps> too many read/writes IIRC
[16:39] <Guest44769> Walex2, ok so I've vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:39] <Guest44769> have it open
[16:39] <Guest44769> what to look for?
[16:39] <Walex2> cordyceps: yes, older flsh drives did not do wear level management,.
[16:40] <Zal> older flash drives still last pretty much a normal human's lifetime
[16:40] <gordonjcp> I don't know anyone who has worn out an SSD
[16:40] <Walex2> Guest44769: instead do this: 'mv -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-saved' and then
[16:41] <Zal> running ext4 on mine, and expect to die of old age befor my SSD wears out
[16:41] <djp5592> gordonjcp: the only people i know who have are using full disk encryption on a ssd
[16:41] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> older nand flash (specifically ones used in eeepc) had about 10k write lifetime per block
[16:41] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -N -o /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:41] <gordonjcp> djp5592: did they wear out the disk or did the encryption did just toss its cookies?
[16:41] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -N -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> they still had basic wear leveling tho
[16:41] <cordyceps> I'm using a 900A w/original psion(?) Now only can boot live USB
[16:42] <djp5592> they exceeded the r/w because of the encryption
[16:42] <Guest44769> Walex2, Ok, instead I'm going to use the backup copy of xorg
[16:42] <Anonynimity> hello. I'm wondering if anyone has an idea on how I can force my computer to make me type in the username and password on the login screen
[16:42] <Guest44769> Cool?
[16:42] <faugusztin> gordonjcp: the only SSD's which died are the ones tested 24/7 with special tools, and even those mostly handle writes of 400TB+
[16:42] <faugusztin> & those which failed due bad components
[16:42] <cordyceps> mplayer wouldn't play oggs even though it has the codec. So I installed mplayer2 using Synaptic Pkg Mgr. Now it doesn't play anything. VLC works though.
[16:42] <cordyceps> :(
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cordyceps: you should maybe run sudo apt-get purge mplayer2 and then re-install it.... personally I recommend mpv, fork of mplayer2 that I think is better than mplayer2 itself
[16:44] <cordyceps> Ari-Yang: thanks, goin in ...
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> cordyceps: but you'll have to get mpv from git https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build
[16:44] <Ari-Yang> there are insturctions at the bottom
[16:44] <cordyceps> k
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> * instructions
[16:45] <Walex2> Guest44769: my suggestion is specifically to use the one that I have indicated. If you think that some other configuration will solve your keyboard problem, good luck.
[16:45] <moontoise> hi
[16:45] <moontoise> how i can upgrade libpango ?!
[16:45] <real> djp5592: thanks, your correct.
[16:46] <djp5592> real: not a problem, good luck.
[16:46] <real> djp5592: didnt realize they integrated the netbook version into the desktop edition
[16:46] <Guest44769> Walex2, If my approach fails, I'll attempt to use the one you've suggested
[16:46] <architv> On this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors under the heading 'How to request a mentor' it says that i need to setup my own ubuntu wiki page where I need to write a brief intro about myself. How do I setup my own wiki page?
[16:46] <djp5592> yeah, it's awesome.  used it a while back, good speed, great fun
[16:46] <pfifo> moontoise: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade libpango'
[16:47] <lolu> architv: register at wiki.ubuntu.com and create a page for yourself
[16:47] <JWilmot> hi
[16:48] <architv> Thank you lolu!
[16:49] <Guest44769> Walex2, I've attempted to use the previous xorg.conf that was working prior to installing Nvidia driver and no luck
[16:49] <luxgeek> Anyone know how I can get my wireless AR9565 device to work? Is there a new kernel or something...I'm on 12.04 LTS
[16:49] <mads-> I'm feeling that my computer is beginning to get slow. Can I somehow run a test on it to see if it's the CPU, the RAM or whatever that is beginning to get old?
[16:49] <pfifo> mads-: computers dont 'get slow'
[16:50] <luxgeek> Sorry...12.0
[16:50] <luxgeek> 12.10
[16:50] <Guest44769> Walex2, could you repost the command for the xorg file you mentioned?
[16:51] <mads-> pfifo, well, I feel it's beginning to. If that is because it's old or because the OS running on it requires more than the OS running on it several years ago. But can I test what could be replaced to make it better?
[16:51] <Walex2> Guest44769: 'wget -O /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/xorg.conf'
[16:51] <Daeinar> reload
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> mads, if stuff starts running drastically slow, the best thing to do is a clean install
[16:51] <Walex2> luxgeek: try the '-cw-' backports
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> mads whats specs is your system?
[16:52] <moontoise> @pfifo , thank, but it dont upgrade libpango,
[16:52] <Walex2> luxgeek: 'linux-backports-modules-cw' of some appropriate version
[16:52] <Guest44769> Walex2, now just reboot?
[16:52] <pfifo> moontoise: what is the error? or is it saying its upto date?
[16:52] <moontoise> pfifo i download last libpango.tar.gz , but in ./configure , it error : no cairo installed
[16:53] <moontoise> pfifo yeah
[16:53] <moontoise> pfifo how i can install cairo?
[16:53] <luxgeek> Walex2: Ok, I'll check it out.
[16:53] <mads-> hitsujiTMO, 12.04 on a Intel E8400, with 4GB ram and 560 TI
[16:53] <lukodiablo> hi someone can help me configure wirelles card ?
[16:53] <Walex2> luxgeek: like this for example: 'sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.8-precise-generic'
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, Identify it to the channel for help.
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> mads thats a pretty decent system even for ubuntu 13.04 ...
[16:54] <moontoise> pfifo its say its up to date, but my version is: 1 , and last libpango version is: 1.34.1
[16:54] <Walex2> Guest44769: no, no need to reboot, just start again X with 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4'
[16:55] <pfifo> moontoise: so your building your own pango so you have something later than whats in the repos. OK got it...
[16:55] <lukodiablo> exactly i need setup driver 3573sta
[16:56] <Guest44769> Walex2, fail, the other xterm window doesn't open
[16:56] <moontoise> pfifo thanks
[16:56] <pfifo> moontoise: you have to install the cairo development package, 'sudo apt-get install libcairo2-dev'
[16:56] <luxgeek> Walex2: Got it, am installing one now :)
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> mads: you could have a look at 'top'   and see whats using resources
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, run lspci in the terminal and identify the card exactly.
[16:56] <moontoise> pfifo really thanks dude :*
[16:56] <Walex2> Guest44769: then put on a pastebin both your '/var/log/Xorg.4.log' and your '/var/log/Xorg.4.log.old'
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> lukodiablo, And post the output of uname -a
[16:58] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a simple folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[16:58] <Gallomimia> um... is the partitioning tool in the LiveCD installer supposed to do nothing?
[16:58] <Guest44769> Walex2, command please?
[16:58] <pfifo> moontoise: make sure to use 'sudo checkinstall' instead of the usual 'sudo make install' when ever your installing stuff on a debian/ubuntu system
[16:58] <Gallomimia> none of the buttons work, and it fails every time i try to go past it
[16:59] <moontoise> pfifo , really thanks for your help, i install cairo and so install pango, and now pango is upgraded, i love u :*
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, you can set up the partitions with gparted if needed, can you describe with detail whats going on.
[17:00] <Walex2> Guest44769: pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log; pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log.old
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, might help to screenshot gparted and imagebin it.
[17:01] <moontoise> now i want to install php gtk
[17:01] <Gallomimia> in detail, i'm using a live cd to install an os for a new system. in detail, the partition-your-drive section of the installer has 3 buttons that should work but do nothing in the customize section, and the no-custom-partitions option just says "it failed"
[17:01] <moontoise> but it cause error: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.6.0... no
[17:01] <moontoise> how i can install GTK+
[17:01] <lukodiablo> wilee-nille i have no idea... the card is sitecom WLA 6100 http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-6100
[17:02] <cac>
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, lets see a screenshot of gparted, I assume you have checked the sum of the iso of the install.
[17:02] <Guest44769> Walex2, 6227551 and 6227552
[17:02] <robotdevil> what is the disktools that has smart and hdd disk health and stuff called. I think it is included by default. gui
[17:02] <robotdevil> need package name plz
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, disks
[17:03] <pfifo> moontoise: same way as before, you need the DEVELOPMENT packages for GTK+
[17:03] <moontoise> pfifo, yeah, i try it :D and now install gtk !
[17:03] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: yeah i checked the sum. the installer appears to have loaded to the OS this time
[17:03] <Walex2> Guest44769: before starting X again, run the command 'sudo rmmod nvidia'
[17:03] <pfifo> moontoise: 20 american dollars says you simply needed the development packages for pango to begin with :)
[17:04] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: to vague a search
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Cool, and you understand the limitations of types of partitions and the limit of how many right?
[17:04] <moontoise> pfifo , ok , thanks
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, thats the name of it.
[17:04] <Gallomimia> i really don't care for partitions
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, and thast means?
[17:05] <Guest44769> Walex2, there was some wierd blinking on the screen, and then I got the xterm window but not able to type
[17:05] <Guest44769> ??
[17:05] <Gallomimia> i'm using a 500 gig drive that i scrounged all the crap off of and i'm willing to let the installer "do whatever"
[17:05] <lukodiablo> wilee-nilee if i run lsusb then i see Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0df6:006e Sitecom Europe B.V.
[17:05] <Walex2> Guest44769: do this again: 'pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.4.log'
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, Heh, there are physical limitations to types and how many partitions are allowed that can brick your HD if not followed.
[17:06] <raven_> hi
[17:06] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: found it. gnome disk utility
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> or brick the setup anyway
[17:06] <Gallomimia> yeah let's not do that :P
[17:06] <bjrohan> I have created an iso of a DVD on my hard drive. How do I now copy this to a USB. This is not a Live image, but a copy of a video DVD
[17:06] <robotdevil> not in package manager
[17:06] <robotdevil> &^*&^&^$$%
[17:07] <Walex2> Guest44769: also, double check the basic: have you move the cursor inside the 'xterm' rectangle before typing>
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, funny shows up as disks here.
[17:07] <pfifo> bjrohan: maybe your looking for 'dd' but depends on what your trying to do
[17:07] <Guest44769> Walex2 6227573
[17:07] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/yA1J3VY4 - ideas?
[17:07] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: sorry on lm
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, lm is?
[17:08] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: linux mint
[17:08] <Guest44769> Walex2 brb
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> robotdevil, YOu are on the wrong channel then it is not supported here.
[17:08] <Gallomimia> wilee-nilee: now that we've established that the particulars of the partition scheme don't matter a whit to me, and there's specific stuff to do for installers, can you suggest some scheme to setup using gparted which i now have running
[17:08] <bjrohan> pfifo: That was my thought, using dd. I have a video DVD. I made an iso that saved onto my hdd using k3b. I now want to put this onto a USB so that a friend who doesn't have a DVD player on his laptop can watch it
[17:08] <pfifo> raven_: either make you error messages english or ask in the german ubuntu channel, thanks
[17:09] <raven_> pfifo, how to
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> Gallomimia, YOu are not even close to following my help, and have an attitude, best of luck I can't help you.
[17:09] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: yes I know but you did help me find it. this was syntax "gnome-disk" also thanks
[17:10] <pfifo> bjrohan: just copy it it to a usb stick in a usual method, and then link it to /dev/dvd on linux to 'fake it'... or on windows use a virtual drive
[17:10] <andry> anyone knows how to see the current buffering mode of xorg?
[17:10] <robotdevil> wilee-nilee: technically im on kde too so really wrong channel ....lol
[17:10] <andry> ie triplebuffer
[17:10] <Guest44769> Walex2 - back
[17:11] <pfifo> raven_: i think its '/join #ubuntu-de'
[17:11] <raven_> pfifo, no that output in english
[17:11] <Walex2> Guest44769: also, double check the basic: have you move the cursor inside the 'xterm' rectangle before typing>
[17:11] <pfifo> raven_: dont know
[17:11] <moontoise> pfifo, sorry, now i want to install gtk+, but it cause error : *** No GTK-Doc found, please install it ***
[17:12] <Guest44769> For dumb
[17:12] <GamingX> Hi guys, I'm trying to make a compile a driver but I keep getting this error with the make command /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lusb .
[17:12] <Guest44769> Walex2, now what?
[17:12] <moontoise> pfifo i install gtk-doc but error continued
[17:12] <pfifo> moontoise: did you install the.... wait for it.... keep waiting.... development package!?
[17:12] <Walex2> Guest44769: can you type inside the 'xterm' if you move the cursor into it?
[17:13] <Guest44769> Ya
[17:13] <Walex2> Guest44769: then type 'unity'
[17:13] <Guest44769> *hangs head in Shame*
[17:13] <moontoise> pfifo, hm! i download gtk-doc-1.19.tar.gz and ./configure it carefully, its correct?!!
[17:14] <bjrohan> pfifo, what you are saying is that I can use Dolphin, Krusader, or cp to copy from hdd to the mounted usb. I am using Linux, friend is using Windoze, friend will then just use something like MagicDisc to mount the virtual drive
[17:14] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/7srqx2Wk - ideas? (xubuntu 13.04 with 3.8.0-31-generic)
[17:14] <Guest44769> Walex2, it states Compiz (decor) - Warn: requested pixmap type decoration when compsiting isn't available
[17:14] <pfifo> moontoise: no, if your going to build 1 of the gtk packages you really need to build all 100+ or so of them. building one isint going to be helpful and will likely break your system
[17:15] <pfifo> bjrohan: yeah, that sound like a good course of action
[17:15] <Guest44769> Walex2, there are many things wrong in the output
[17:15] <Walex2> Guest44769: ah yes, because the 'vesa' driver does not do it... Does it start at all?
[17:15] <bjrohan> pfifo: thanks
[17:15] <moontoise> pfifo but, how i can install gtk+ ? it say need to install gtk-doc
[17:15] <Guest44769> can you word that differently please Walex2
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you a Unity-style desktop?
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: do you see a Unity-style desktop?
[17:16] <Guest44769> no
[17:16] <moontoise> pfifo i try to install gtk+ : 'sudo apt-get install gtk+-dev'
[17:16] <bjrohan> pfifo: The iso file is 6.9GB, I am trying to copy it to a 8GB USB (fat32), it gets 4GB copited then is says it is full
[17:16] <pfifo> bjrohan: seriously though, you should just encode the dvd to a mpeg or something that can be played in a normal fashion
[17:16] <bjrohan> pfifo, I can do that as well, I want to preserve the few menu items as well though
[17:16] <Walex2> Guest44769: then restoere the previous/saved 'xorg.conf', and run again 'xinit /usr/bin/xterm -fa :size=14 -- :4
[17:16] <moontoise> pfifo but it cause many of errors !, i download the latest gt+ from site "http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/gtk+/3.8/gtk+-3.8.5.tar.xz" , and for ./configure it, i need to gtk-doc :(
[17:17] <pfifo> bjrohan: the fat filesystem only supports files upto 4 gb in size, you can use ntfs, or if your friend wants to install ext2 drivers for windows, then ext2 as well
[17:17] <trism> moontoise: libgtk2.0-dev or libgtk-3-dev depending on if you want 2 or 3, you likely don't want to build your own gtk
[17:17] <luxgeek> Walex2: Thanks again...that worked beautifully :)
[17:17] <Guest44769> When I ctrl - C i get a dbus erro at the end of the output Walex2
[17:18] <bjrohan> pfifo: DUH, thanks!
[17:18] <pfifo> moontoise: your on the highway to failure now... what are you trying to install php-gtk? I highly reccommend getting it from a PPA at this point
[17:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: no problem, for now, just restart with the nVidia driver and let's see what happens.
[17:18] <blurb> Hi, I'm trying install (k)ubuntu 13.04 with uefi. It boots into grub2 but only drops into a shell instead of detecting an OS (no error messages what so ever).
[17:18] <Walex2> Guest44769: BTW a lot of the desktop environments print a lot of irrelevant internal error messages, when started from a terminal.
[17:18] <moontoise> pfifo what is ppa address of php-gtk?!
[17:18] <foofoobar_> I want to restructure a simple folder structure. Can someone tell me how I can do this? THis is the structure: http://pastebin.com/06Fa7iDQ
[17:18] <Zal> blurb, hm, you mean drops into a grub shell?
[17:19] <pfifo> moontoise: search for it on http://launchpad.net
[17:19] <blurb> Zal: Yes.
[17:19] <moontoise> trism , i do 'sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev' but it cause error : libgtk2.0-dev : Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.20) but it is not going to be installed
[17:19] <moontoise> pfifo ok , i searching
[17:20] <Guest44769> Walex2, I'm reboot with the version of xorg that I believe to be created by nvidia
[17:20] <Guest44769> more to follow
[17:20] <daniel_> Someone could tell me about some place to get SERIAL number for this tool, please? : UFS Explorer Standard Recovery for Linux
[17:20] <pfifo> moontoise: speaking of pango, you might want to uninstall your updated version
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> !piracy | daniel_
[17:21] <raven_> trying to compile this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/electricowl/files/latest/download brings this errors: http://pastebin.com/7srqx2Wk - ideas? (xubuntu 13.04 with 3.8.0-31-generic)
[17:21] <daniel_> I don't know anything about serial number etc
[17:21] <moontoise> pfifo , how i can uninstall it?
[17:21] <daniel_> I'm a linux user from tons years ago
[17:21] <moontoise> pfifo , i searched, and in launchpad php-gtk page , wrote: " php-gtk does not have any download files registered with Launchpad. "
[17:22] <Guest44769> Walex2, I rebooted to Gnome desktop without unity, dropped to tty 1, logged in, started a new xsession and attempted starting unity
[17:22] <blurb> Zal: When booting using a uefi partion, should I select that partion to be location for the bootloader?
[17:22] <pfifo> raven_: looks like the package your trying to compile dosent support the kernel your running
[17:22] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: Really I don't know where start from. Sorry, but I need working such tool
[17:23] <Guest44769> Walex2, The output displays a message about No default Decoration found, placement will not be correct
[17:23] <Zal> blurb, sounds plausible, I'm not very familiar with grub though, sorry
[17:23] <blurb> ok
[17:23] <raven_> pfifo, any way to solve that?
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: i presume you can get a serial for it from here: http://www.ufsexplorer.com/order.php?prod=sr
[17:23] <pfifo> moontoise: keep searching
[17:23] <Walex2> Guest44769: but what do you see on the screen?
[17:23] <pfifo> raven_: try a different kernel?
[17:24] <Guest44769> Walex2, perhaps I should re-installed compiz?
[17:24] <raven_> pfifo, what kernel would i need to downgrade to?
[17:24] <Walex2> Guest44769: reinstalling under GNU/Linux is almost always wrong. Rarely do packages get corrupted
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> Daniel_ what do you need the app for?
[17:24] <moontoise> pfifo i do 'apt-get purge libpango-1.0' but it cant uninstall it
[17:24] <moontoise> pfifo very thank for your helps :*
[17:24] <Walex2> Guest44769: it is almost always a configuration issue.
[17:25] <Guest44769> Walex2, ok, I've just had it work in the past
[17:25] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: I'm a really single user, it's for just one use.
[17:25] <Walex2> Guest44769: but what you see on the screen now?
[17:25] <pfifo> raven_: Thats a good question to ask the electricowl developers
[17:25] <lukodiablo> someone can help me with setup driver 3573STA?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> noone here will help you to pirate the software, however if you explain what you need it for someone might be able to suggest a free alternative
[17:26] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: Such tool is probably the only way I could recover my data lost (my work of years).
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> what file system?
[17:26] <pfifo> moontoise: did you run checkinstall or just make install?
[17:26] <Guest44769> I see the xterm window where I killed unity command with ctrl + c (because unity didn't display) and now I see the messages about unregister path and server couldn't be contacted: D-BUS error
[17:26] <daniel_> The culprit of all this was, apart from me..., the new install of MInt 15
[17:26] <blurb> So, does anybody have any up to date info on how to install using uefi on ubuntu 13.04?
[17:27] <Walex2> #
[17:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: that message is fine...
[17:27] <gordonjcp> !uefi
[17:27] <Walex2> Guest44769: the Compiz does not start because you don't have 3D/GL acceleration
[17:28] <Guest44769> Whisky Tango Foxtrot.......How is that possibly now?
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_ what was the original file system? if its ext3 or ext4 maybe try: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[17:28] <TomABC> Hi, I know this is unrelated but do u know where I can get help on php? the php channel is invite-only
[17:28] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a further attempt try 'unit --reset'
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_ there's also: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[17:28] <Guest44769> Walex2 unit reset?
[17:28] <Tylertwo> TomABC, maybe #programming
[17:29] <daniel_> hitsujiTMO: data were into a XFS partition, that's the important
[17:29] <Walex2> Guest44769: as a further attempt try 'unity --reset'
[17:29] <daniel_> testdisk couldn't do practically nothing
[17:29] <extraymond> Hi! Anyone how to get opencl working on optimus laptop? I want to use luxrender with opencl
[17:29] <Guest44769> Walex2, interesting, that works
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[17:29] <FloodBot1> sburjan`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:29] <blurb> gordonjcp: So, you still need to manually do it? Creating a efi partion isn't enough?
[17:30] <Walex2> Guest44769: what works? Resetting the Compiz config with 'unity --reset'?
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> Daniel_ i have no experience with xfs i'm afraid
[17:30] <pfifo> TomABC: /join ##php
[17:30] <daniel_> Please this is my emergency for years. If someone wants to help me privately, I would be very thankfull
[17:31] <daniel_> HitsujiTMO: thanks anyhow man
[17:31] <Guest44769> Walex2, yes I just ran that command and I have a unity desktop, albeit a bit lame in terms of display quality but it's there
[17:31] <kdeuser^> Walex2: I think unity --reset is deprecated. I use dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && unity --reset-icons
[17:31] <pfifo> daniel_: what was your question?
[17:32] <Walex2> kdeuser^: that's entirely likely
[17:32] <Zal> Guest44769, speaking of lame ... any chance you can get yourself a real nickname? It's so much more personable :-)
[17:32] <Guest44769> Zal, Ya about that
[17:32] <pfifo> Guest44769: /nick Guest44770
[17:32] <Walex2> Guest44769: now you need to fix your nVidia driver and driver config, but you have seen that starting Unity "manusally" works and does get DBUS started etc.
[17:32] <Guest44769> The default nick makes me feel like one of the borg
[17:33] <Zal> exactly
[17:33] <Zal>  /nick IamNottheBorg
[17:33] <daniel_> pfifo: it's above next in the thread
[17:33] <Guest44769> pfifo, lol #duh
[17:33] <Walex2> Guest44769: most likely your problem has always been a screwed up Compiz config
[17:33] <RandomUsr> How bout this?
[17:34] <kdeuser^> Yeah very personable :)
[17:34] <Zal> very slightly better ... thanks
[17:34] <daniel_> pfifo: if I repeat it much, I'm afraid I would doing practices against channel rules
[17:34] <Guest23782> Damnit
[17:34] <charley__> hello
[17:34] <Guest23782> who's mis-using their power
[17:35] <Walex2> RandomUsr: you could also use the Unity 2d interface, as in 'sudo apt-get install unity-2d' and then start it with 'gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d'
[17:35] <RandomUsr2> lol
[17:35] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen
[17:36] <pfifo> daniel_: describe your problem, starting from the begging, giving lots of details, if you really have been working on this for years then ask your question on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and then post a link to it here.
[17:36] <bjrohan> pfifo: I am trying to format the USB to ntfs, that is not an option in KDE partition manager,  I can read and write but not create ntfs, how do I add ntfs functionality
[17:36] <pfifo> bjrohan: boot to windows to format ntfs, linux cant do it (yet)
[17:36] <kdeuser^> charley__: that doesnt say much to help you.. Please provide more details.
[17:36] <bjrohan> Ah
[17:36] <Walex2> charley__: VBox is buggy, usually much better to use QEMU/KVM
[17:36] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, so, it's likely that compiz is broke and possibly some incorrect settings within the Nvidia xorg.conf?
[17:36] <pfifo> bjrohan: have you friend format it
[17:37] <bjrohan> I shall, thanks!
[17:37] <kmyst> hey does anybody else do pxe install and preseed??
[17:37] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: Compiz probably broke because the nVidia driver is not set up fully well.
[17:37] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: pastebin again your X server log...
[17:37] <RandomUsr2> Ah
[17:37] <Zal> kmyst, I have done it many times, never with ubuntu specifically
[17:38] <Zal> kmyst, is this a survey? :-)
[17:38] <charley__> the ubuntu setup initializes/ubuntu12.04....upgrade bios...blahblah./next screen hangs with purple bar at top of screen. like it tries to load but cant
[17:38] <RandomUsr2> Walex2 - 6227677
[17:38] <kmyst> Zal: lol no
[17:38] <kdeuser^> RandomUsr2: Have you ever seen unity on your computer?
[17:38] <charley__> should be install screen
[17:38] <kdeuser^> If you have , then its possible the setting is messed up and needs to be reset
[17:38] <kmyst> Zal: i'm trying to wrap my mind around why the installer just sits idle for ~10 minutes after the mirror portion before kicking into gear and doing the rest
[17:39] <kingplusplus> how do i scroll up when using screen terminal
[17:39] <kmyst> kingplusplus: shift+pgup
[17:39] <kingplusplus> kmyst, didn't work
[17:40] <Zal> kmyst, downloading the boot image over a slow connection?
[17:40] <kmyst> Zal: no it's local http
[17:41] <Zal> kmyst, hm, I've only used tftp, but I don't suppose that would account for the behavior you're seeing
[17:41] <kmyst> Zal: my preseed works...but it takes forever
[17:41] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, ideas?
[17:41] <PDilyard> alright i need some help...I am dual booting windows 8 and ubuntu on my laptop. Somehow, i managed to mess up GNOME, and i wanted to install ubuntu 12.04 (rather than 13). I decided to attempt to remove Ubuntu's partition, and reinstall ubuntu on a smaller partition than before. I deleted the partition for ubuntu, restarted and now i get "Unknown file system. grub rescue>"
[17:41] <PDilyard> i can hit escape on restart, but i cant get windows 8 to boot at all
[17:42] <pfifo> kingplusplus: screen dosent support scrollback
[17:42] <pranav> how do i enable remote desktop in ubuntu server (vnc) using terminal ?
[17:42] <kmyst> Zal: case in point....i'm staring at syslog and 12:14:48 was the last entry timestamp for get mirror/http/proxy
[17:42] <PDilyard> btw, i've successfully installed ubuntu 12.04, but to get into it, i have to go into the boot device options, then select Ubuntu
[17:42] <kdeuser^> pranav: You could use ssh?
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard do you have a windows cd?
[17:43] <pranav> kdeuser^: yes
[17:43] <Zal> kmyst, is that for the boot image, or the packages themselves?
[17:43] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: no, but i have a recovery partition
[17:43] <kmyst> Zal: packages
[17:43] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: i tried running the bootrec /fixmbr command, but it didnt change anything
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> ahhh
[17:43] <Zal> kmyst, huh, the only thing I can think of is that the http server itself is limited somehow. (I typically use NFS)
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> kk
[17:44] <charley__> when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem?
[17:44] <kingplusplus> pfifo thanks
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> you might need to try: bootrec /rebuildbcd
[17:44] <__raven> i am looking for a tool that triggers midi from incoming sounds - some kind of triggering A when giving 440hz sine to it
[17:45] <kmyst> Zal: thought of that but i started tcpdump and packet captures and there's nothing going out over the wire....its just like when the preseed file is read and it hits the mirror portion it sets it up and just pauses for a long long time :/
[17:45] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: my list of bootoptions is "OS boot manager, ubuntu, Ubuntu, USB Hard Drive, EFI File"
[17:45] <kmyst> Zal: oh and the web server is just sitting there waiting patiently ;)
[17:45] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: still looking at the log
[17:45] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: so i must not have completely removed my last ubuntu installation
[17:45] <Zal> kmyst, odd
[17:45] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen. when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem?
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu tends to stick in uefi even if its been removed
[17:46] <PDilyard> oh ok
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> what happends if you boot to OS boot manager?
[17:47] <PDilyard> grub rescue
[17:47] <kmyst> Zal: even tried using the example preseed from the install instructions just modifying the mirror it points to...same results.  so, yes, odd.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, You have the boot loader in the partitikon still.
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: i'm thinking you may have removed the wrong partition
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, on a normal install it would be in the mbr, uefi uses a boot partition.
[17:48] <PDilyard> i know i kept C:\ and D:\ (recovery)
[17:49] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: your nVidia setup seems actually to be working OK, even if you installed from the nVidia autoinstaller.
[17:49] <PDilyard> bootrec /rebuildbcd says no windows installations detected :(
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> windows usually has a seperate partition for bcd
[17:49] <kmyst> Zal: lol it's been 23 minutes and counting and it just sits there idle :)
[17:50] <PDilyard> so do you think i removed windows somehow?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> can you boot a live cd and greenshot gparted?
[17:50] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: the main problem and it is not a bit one is that your screen pixel size is 1680x0150 but the X server is configured for 1600x1200 and then incorrectly figures out it is actually 1920x1080.
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> or paste gparted textoutput
[17:50] <PDilyard> i can boot a live cd, im not sure what "greenshot gparted" means
[17:50] <PDilyard> screenshot
[17:50] <PDilyard> haha
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> screenshot*
[17:51] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, what to fix that piece?
[17:51] <PDilyard> should i boot from a live usb or from my working ubuntu installation?
[17:51] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: The other thing that is not optimal is that RANDR is not enabled, but you can leave that alone.
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> working ubuntu is just as good
[17:51] <charley__> i will try vmware. is it possible to save my ubuntu generated to data to a sd card via sd card reader?
[17:51] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: at some point in your "xorg.conf" there should be a line with "1600x1200" in it, change that to "1680x1050", might work
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Might be as simple as a boot flag missing, can you use the bootrepair app on a live ubuntu cd and run just the bootinfo summary?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> sorry, i didnt realise you had gone thru the ubuntu install already
[17:52] <bekks> wilee-nilee: the boot flag is irrelevant on linux for about 15 years now.
[17:52] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: when i choose Ubuntu in the boot device options, i get Windows 8 boot loader as an option, but it goes to grub rescue
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, boot flag fopr a windows fix that is, if you have installed ubuntu the bootrepair app may get you up and running.
[17:53] <PDilyard> ok hang on
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> you have have overwritten the bcd partition so
[17:53] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: anyhow even if you got Gl acceleration, consider using Unity 2D... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity2D
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I was refering to athe bcd fix
[17:53] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: what command did you want me to run?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> it matters there
[17:53] <rtwhrt> hi
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> gparted
[17:53] <PDilyard> ok one min
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> get us a view of your filesystem
[17:54] <charley__> unable to install ubuntu virtualbox on windows 7. hangs before installation window with purple bar across top screen. when i start the vm i see a notice of 16 bit blah blah. could that be the problem? i will try vmware. is it possible to save my ubuntu generated to data to a sd card via sd card reader?
[17:54] <rtwhrt> I am rtwhrt from hungary.
[17:54] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, that broke Unity and there are no window decorations
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> charley__, This ubuntu in virtualbox or an image?
[17:54] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: uhm, I just noticed that versions of Ubunty after 12.04 no longer have Unity 2D as there is some creepy emultion of GL available.
[17:55] <charley__> virtualbox
[17:55] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: changing "1600x1200" to "1680x1050" broke Unity?
[17:55] <RandomUsr2> Yes
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> charley__, that does not actually answer the question.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> there is no ubuntu virtualbox
[17:56] <charley__> virtualbox 4.2
[17:56] <pranav> how do i enable remote desktop in ubuntu server (vnc) using terminal ?
[17:56] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: that is also highly unlikely. Then change it back, and find some other way to ensure your destop is in 1680x1050 mode. E.g. after it is started use 'nvidia-settings'.
[17:56] <charley__> installing ubuntu
[17:56] <charley__> hangs before install
[17:56] <RandomUsr2> Walex2, that's what I did
[17:56] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: because the manufacturer of your monitor: http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x22wg_1080p.htm has a rather peculiar attittude.
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> charley__, ubuntu nad virtualbox are two different things, so again are you trying to install ubuntu in a virtualbox or use a image someone made of ubuntu for virtualbox?
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | charley__
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> !who | charley__ if you use nicks we actually comunicate
[17:58] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: that sounds bizarre.
[17:58] <RandomUsr2> Walex2,Thanks for your help. Not completely fixed but I need to get back to life for the rest of the day
[17:58] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO, wilee-nilee: http://i.imgur.com/WQQZlGT.png
[17:58] <PDilyard> gparted ^^
[17:58] <Walex2> RandomUsr2: OK, now you know a bit more how to tweak things...
[17:59] <jeanepaul_> need help
[17:59] <Walex2> BTW "life" is overrated. Expensive, timeconsuming. Computers are better :-)
[17:59] <RandomUsr2> lol
[18:00] <charley___> installing ubuntu on a virtual machine (virtualbox)
[18:00] <jeanepaul_> i think i have a broken lvm.. alert /dev/mapper/mainserver-ub-vg-root does not exist...
[18:00] <charley___> running windows 7
[18:01] <charley___> why
[18:01] <charley___> hello
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, be sure to use gksudo when you open gui's like that. Looks like everything is there, I'm not up on uefi is all, generally people recommend the bootrepair app, there is a thread at the ubuntu forum you v=can get help on this app, post the bootinfo summary there it is important if you have more troubles after using bootrepair.
[18:02] <PDilyard> ok
[18:02] <charley__> installing ubuntu on virtual box
[18:02] <charley__> running win7
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> charley__, You see the nomodeset info by the bot?
[18:03] <charley__> ?
[18:03] <charley__> where?
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> charley__: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> charley__, Not sure what irc app you are using, but when your nick is used it should show up colored.
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard, looks like all your windows partitions are there alright, including your bcd partition.
[18:05] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: im attempting boot-repair
[18:06] <ihre> I've mounted a smb share over a openvpn tunnel, now the tunnel disconnected, and the terminal freezes when trying to unmount the directory.. How can I work around this time-out/freeze ?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Having your partitions out of numerical order though is problematic, however I don't think that is the issue here.
[18:07] <cs415> hey
[18:08] <cs415> any juju devs out there?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> cs415, This is ubuntu support.
[18:08] <charley__> im unable to boot to this screen
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> cs415 try #ubuntu-server
[18:08] <charley__> described on the url
[18:08] <cs415> ok
[18:09] <charley__> http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=gfRNw8dFLy0lXM&tbnid=RPTq3susvynbrM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechluminati.com%2Foperating-systems%2Fhow-to-install-ubuntu-12-04%2F&ei=X5BZUo3xB8i0rQGai4G4Dw&bvm=bv.53899372,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNFxKWFWDK0KR4lpoTurwp-PbsvEKQ&ust=1381687753170321
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> charley__, Have you checked the sum of the iso, ubuntu should generally boot in vbox it has its own drivers, how much ram have you given it?
[18:10] <wiak> i can use "rsync -avP source/* /my/dest/folder/" and get everything in source into folder correct?
[18:10] <charley__> i tried every ram setting
[18:10] <bekks> wilee-nilee: a vbox vm does not have "its own drivers" until you install the guest additions after installing the guest OS.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> bekks, ah, thanks
[18:11] <charley__> 1260 possible
[18:11] <OerHeks> cs145 #juju or #juju-dev
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> charley__, If no one knows here you might try #vbox
[18:12] <charley__> thanks
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> charley__, I would see if the iso on a cd or a usb boots, and identify the graphic card on the computer.
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> actually a dvd
[18:15] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO, wilee-nilee: thanks guys! boot-repair worked and im booting to win8 right now. you guys are awesome
[18:15] <motaka2> does anyone knows how I can see persian words correctely in terminal ?
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, cool, enjoy.
[18:18] <edman007> hrm... is the DNS for doc.ubuntu.com gone/down for anyone else? I can't load it...
[18:18] <edman007> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware references it
[18:19] <extraymond> ubuntu 13.04 x64
[18:19] <OerHeks> edman007, seems so
[18:20] <minimec> motaka2: I did some research for you... Did you check that forum thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451241
[18:21] <OerHeks> edman007, you might want to report this in #ubuntu-doc
[18:21] <motaka2> minimec: yes, I did that and no changes was observed
[18:22] <minimec> motaka2: I cannot help you further as I don't need such a change.
[18:24] <edman007> OerHeks, alright, will do...
[18:24] <motaka2> minimec: are u a developer?
[18:26] <minimec> motaka2: no.
[18:26] <jhutchins> !localle
[18:26] <jhutchins> !locale
[18:26] <jhutchins> motaka2: See above
[18:28] <pranav> when i try to login to my ubuntu server using vnc, all that I see is a cross with dots on screen
[18:28] <minimec> motaka2: You downloaded and installed that 'bicon' package, right?
[18:28] <pranav> what is this ? how do i get my desktop environment back ?
[18:29] <motaka2> minimec: I am not sure, i fallowed the steps in that forum
[18:29] <motaka2> minimec: where should I check ?
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> pranav unbuntu server does not normally have a desktop environment: how did you install it?
[18:30] <minimec> motaka2: ls /usr/bin/bic*
[18:30] <motaka2> minimec: here is the result:   ls /usr/bin/bic*
[18:30] <faugusztin> pranav: what is your standard desktop enviroment ?
[18:30] <Desheng> can the Pendrivelinux "Universal USB Installer" be used to make a bootable USB Ubuntu installer for UEFI systems? My system will boot from an official Windows 8 USB installer drive just fine, but it won't boot from the Ubuntu install USB I made.
[18:30] <pranav> faugusztin: hitsujiTMO: it is a complete Ubuntu 12.04 version. It used to give me unity just yesterday.
[18:30] <motaka2> minimec: sorry,    /usr/bin/bicon  /usr/bin/bicon.bin
[18:30] <njsg> pranav: that is X-windows, it just started X, and has no desktop environment starting
[18:31] <faugusztin> pranav: check ~/.vnc/xstartup
[18:31] <minimec> motaka2: ok. the binary is installed.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> pranav is it unbuntu server or or ubuntu desktop running as a server?
[18:31] <pranav> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu desktop server
[18:32] <pranav> *sry ubuntu desktop as a server
[18:33] <minimec> motaka2: ok. open a gnome-terminal and execute 'bicon'. Not open another terminal and try your persion words.
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, When I had tried that usb loader in the past, if I added additional ISO's it had contig fragmentation problems. There are a handful of usb loaders to try, describe the actual problem tjough.
[18:34] <motaka2> minimec: nope :(
[18:35] <kirin`> hello, when I start X with xinit I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226914/ starting in the terminal in endless loop. My .xinitrc http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226925/ , if that matters.
[18:35] <minimec> motaka2: well again... all I can do...
[18:35] <motaka2> minimec: but it is better now, before I got all chars of a word separated
[18:35] <bekks> kirin`: Thou shall not start X using xinit. :)
[18:35] <bekks> kirin`: Just use a DM like lightdm.
[18:36] <Desheng> When I use the Pendrivelinux USB boot maker, I can't boot from it: "The selected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to continue". Whereas I can use the same "restart with USB device" option with an official Windows 8 works just fine
[18:36] <Robr3rd> For years I have used Banshee to sync music onto my old iPod touch (2g), although after updating to the latest stable Ubuntu version, whenever I plug in my iPod Banshee locks up. This happens if Banshee is ALREADY open, AND if I open it AFTER I plug in the iPod. I also tried this with Rhythmbox, gtkpod, and each of those three with a newer iPod touch (4G) as well, but I get the same results with each of them. Nautilus mounts it fine,
[18:36] <Robr3rd> however these players seem to have a problem. I suspect the problem may be with one of the libraries that handle iDevices. The packages libimobiledevice3 and libgpod4 are all completely up-to-date.
[18:37] <minimec> motaka2: Is there any 'persian region' ubuntu channel? Or try others like 'russian' or 'japanease' channels and ask them kindly in english, how they handle that in ubuntu.
[18:37] <minimec> motaka2: I GUess thay should have similar proglems...
[18:38] <motaka2> minimec: I'll try, I really apreciate your care
[18:38] <minimec> motaka2: no problem
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Can't boot from it means what exactly, it does not start, or you get a black screen, for example.
[18:40] <Desheng> I mean that UEFI shows me a screen saying "The selected boot device failed." and then falls through to a boot selection screen that only lets me boot into the existing Win8 on the hard drive
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> Desheng,Soory you give somewhat of a description, I would try unetbootin maybe.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Is windows completely closed and the fastboot off in the bios, you want W8 to be not in the fastboot stage for sure.
[18:42] <Desheng> I turned off fastboot and turned off Secure Boot. And the laptop *will boot from an official Win8 installer usb* but not from the Ubuntu one. I don't think my boot process is wrong, I think that I'm making the Ubuntu install key incorrectly
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, I found that pendrive usb loader to be more hassle than its worth, but thats just me, try another usb loader
[18:44] <wallzero> Greetings, is it possible to use a signed kernel with secureboot disabled?
[18:44] <Desheng> I'm trying "Win32 Disk Imager" that someone in #debian linked me to
[18:44] <Desheng> to write the ISO right onto the drive
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero... i'm no expert at that but i don't see why not
[18:44] <rickyrayjay> #xubuntu is kinda slow, can anyone help me figure out how to use a custom image for background in xubuntu? i upgraded to xfce4 and the desktop settings window is different...no option to add a file
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Desheng, Be sure to use nicks here is all, is "Win32 Disk Imager" the one failing?
[18:52] <LyzardKing> I need to know why the fn keys to control backlight work in ubuntu and kubuntu but not in xubuntu
[18:52] <moontoise> hi guys, how i can uninstall libpango ?
[18:52] <LyzardKing> the notification shows the level of backlight, but it doesn't actually change
[18:53] <cgtdk> !details | LyzardKing
[18:54] <LyzardKing> running xubuntu 13.10(but it's the same with 13.04). pressing fn keys to change backlight the notification pops up to show the new level of backlight, but the level remains the same
[18:54] <cgtdk> Hardware details would be useful to people as well
[18:55] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: what is in /sys/class/backlight/ ?
[18:55] <LyzardKing> nvidia card
[18:55] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: acpi_video0@  toshiba@
[18:56] <LyzardKing> is it possible to see what the fn-F6 combination is running?
[18:56] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Thank you. I have a follow up question/issue. Can a signed kernel load root in an encrypted partition?
[18:57] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: go to toshiba folder, check the value of max_brightness value. then try to execute the following command (10 should be half of the value you find in max_brightness) : echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/toshiba/brightness
[18:58] <Desheng> Where can I find an Ubuntu live/install image that I can write with "Win32 Disk Imager"? It's asking me for a .img file and I can only find ubuntu ".iso" installer images
[18:58] <ikonia> Desheng: they are not in that format
[18:59] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: there is a chance that ubuntu/kubuntu had no acpi_video0 device, or it was configured correctly. i have a similar problem where i got acpi_video0 and intel on my laptop, intel controlls the backlight, but apps change value in acpi_video0
[18:59] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I have setup my system to boot into an encrypted partition containing root and swap. I have setup crypttab and fstab correctly
[18:59] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Normal kernels boot just fine, but signed kernels can't find the root.
[18:59] <ziggy> HI! Does persistence lower the life expectancy of a flash drive or are write operations buffered until shutdown?
[18:59] <ABX5B> Why u need IMG anyway?
[19:00] <Robr3rd> For years I have used Banshee to sync music onto my old iPod touch (2g), although after updating to the latest stable Ubuntu version, whenever I plug in my iPod Banshee locks up. This happens if Banshee is ALREADY open, AND if I open it AFTER I plug in the iPod. I also tried this with Rhythmbox, gtkpod, and each of those three with a newer iPod touch (4G) as well, but I get the same results with each of them. Nautilus mounts it fine,
[19:00] <Robr3rd> however these players seem to have a problem. I suspect the problem may be with one of the libraries that handle iDevices. The packages libimobiledevice3 and libgpod4 are all completely up-to-date.
[19:00] <ikonia> ziggy: no more / less than normal use
[19:00] <Jordan_U> wallzero: Is the entry the same? Is your initramfs the same between the two kernels?
[19:00] <ikonia> Robr3rd: I suspect it's more down to the constant changes apple apply to the ipods - compatability is just a poor moving target
[19:00] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: is it not possible to change on what file the apps operate?
[19:01] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: no, there seems to be a way to get rid of the acpi_video0, but i didn't have time to test those
[19:02] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: it should be enough to add this kernel parameter : acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:02] <Robr3rd> ikonia, *nods* Okay, that is fair. Do you know of a place I may be able to find a discussion on this? I have Googled quite a bit but have not yet come up with anything. Also, do you think that jailbreaking it may help? At worst, I could (theoretically) copy/paste the music into the filesystem in Nautilus, right?
[19:02] <wallzero> Jordan_U: Yes, the kernels are the same name except for the appended ".efi.signed". Only one initramfs is generated.
[19:03] <Jordan_U> wallzero: How did you you get this signed kernel?
[19:03] <wallzero> Jordan_U: apt-get
[19:03] <ikonia> Robr3rd: not sure what sort of discussion you're looking for to be honest, with regard to jailbreaking, the support is almost as hit and miss too
[19:04] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: seems like that should be enough, it is working for me on my laptop, that acpi_backlight=vendor kernel parameter
[19:04] <Robr3rd> ikonia, Gotcha. And I am guessing that since Banshee, Rhythmbox, AND gtkpod can't do it, that there's noto much point in me searching and trying more music players since they probably all use the same common libraries?
[19:04] <ikonia> Robr3rd: that would be my view/opinion also, but I certainly don't know for fact
[19:04] <wallzero> Jordan_U: I am also using the signed efi grub, which is working for my unsigned kernels. I have secureboot disabled for now until I can run a signed kernel.
[19:05] <Robr3rd> ikonia, Certainly. And lastly, do you have any theories as to why this may have only started happening AFTER the upgrade? It worked prior to the upgrade and broke after it -- same day, and same /home partition
[19:06] <moontoise> how i can install HARFBUZZ ??
[19:06] <ikonia> Robr3rd: I'd make some random guesses without research that they bumped library versions that dropped/changed the comms process to try to work with $X - the broke $Y
[19:06] <m3kill> ..
[19:06] <ikonia> Robr3rd: however this questions appears a lot in support resources "it was working last week, now it doesn't" or "my ipod gen3 works, but not gen4"
[19:07] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: so the answer is : edit /etc/default/grub, add acpi_backlight=vendor to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then execute sudo update-grub
[19:07] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: then reboot and it should work
[19:07] <wallzero> Jordan_U: You have me thinking that maybe the initrd needs to copied and renamed to include the ".efi.signed" I will try that.
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what version of ubuntu and what version of kernel?
[19:07] <Robr3rd> ikonia, *nods* Right. Alright, thanks
[19:08] <wallzero> raring but with kernel 3.11.0-12-generic
[19:09] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: but I am trying to use kernel 3.11.0-12-generic.signed
[19:12] <wallzero> I have copied and renamed the config and initrd filesnames to match the signed kernel vmlinuz filename. I will reboot and see if that works.
[19:14] <shadow98> find /home/www/uploaded_files/ -mtime -2 -type f -not -iname 'index.php' -delete
[19:14] <shadow98> not working..can someone review please
[19:14] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: so I have to add the parameter on both lines?
[19:15] <Addle> I'm on a Toshiba S70D-A on 13.10 beta 2 and neither screen savers or screen dim/blanking with DPMS work. When supposed to start, it just flickers and nothing else happens. Any hints?
[19:15] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: yes
[19:16] <LyzardKing> thanks, I'll try and reboot now
[19:17] <wallzero> Jordan_U: No luck. I believe the signed kernel is looking at the proper config and initrd files. I still can't figure out why it ignores the crypttab.
[19:17] <crosbymichael> what is the most lightweight, headless, ubuntu installer out?  Ubuntu server is still 1gb+ with only SSH installed
[19:17] <zhanglf> any one here ?
[19:17] <Jordan_U> wallzero: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[19:18] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: oh, actually it is enough to put it in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX line
[19:19] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: did it help ?
[19:20] <crosbymichael> ubuntu mini remix looks like what I want but I need to install to disk
[19:20] <wallzero> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/158JVjcV
[19:21] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: no, now I don't see even the notification
[19:22] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: ok, then try the other stuff described here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight#ACPI - that is acpi_backlight=legacy and various acpi_osi options
[19:23] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: and try the manual setting, to find out which device controls your backlight
[19:23] <Jordan_U> wallzero: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only, for Linux Mint please use their support channels.
[19:23] <nick07_> hi, how to install an older version of blender? I have version 2.65 in a folder, but it won't execute
[19:23] <Jordan_U> nick07_: Why do you want an older version?
[19:24] <nick07_> because of a important plugin
[19:24] <nick07_> that only works for 2.65
[19:24] <crosbymichael> Jordan_U: could you please look at my question about a minimal ubuntu server iso/install ?
[19:25] <cgtdk> crosbymichael: The minimal iso
[19:25] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: now in /sys/class/backlight I only have toshiba, and the manual setting doesn't work with it
[19:25] <cgtdk> I don't think there is anything smaller than that
[19:25] <nick07_> i do have the 2.65 folder on my desktop, and i give the permission to execute, but i don't do anything
[19:25] <nick07_> *it
[19:25] <pfifo> how can I tell if my CPU is a 64 bit arch?
[19:25] <crosbymichael> cgtdk: i'll take a look
[19:25] <wallzero> Jordan_U: I understand, but I am confident this issue is agnostic. I can load a signed Ubuntu kernel if you really want.
[19:25] <cgtdk> crosbymichael: I believe the minimal system can be installed through the server ISO too
[19:25] <cgtdk> !minimal
[19:26] <Jordan_U> wallzero: If you want support here please try with *Ubuntu*, not with just an Ubuntu kernel.
[19:27] <{monica}> Hi, I have question about OpenLDAP 2.4. How to increase olcSizeLimit? I can't find the command.
[19:27] <wallzero> Jordan_U: Thanks for an open mind.
[19:27] <nick07_> is it important if it's the glibc27 or the glibc211 version? (ubuntu 12.04)
[19:27] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: reverse the changes we did then - remove acpi_backlight=vendor from /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub, reboot
[19:27] <ikonia> nick07_: what ?
[19:28] <faugusztin> LyzardKing: backlight is unfortunately still hit or miss
[19:28] <kostkon> pfifo, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[19:28] <ikonia> nick07_: there should only be one version installed and it should be the version ubuntu supplied, it's important to not change it
[19:28] <nick07_> there is no version installed
[19:28] <mcl0vin> hello , just upgraded to 13.04 , this is on a headless srvr, i am trying to access terminal so i ssh to 192.168.2.x o port 22 i get "The remote system refused the connection." ay help please
[19:28] <ikonia> nick07_: what exactly are you trying to do ?
[19:28] <mcl0vin> *any
[19:28] <pfifo> kostkon: have lm in the flags
[19:28] <nick07_> i just want to install version 2.65
[19:28] <kostkon> pfifo, then 64bit
[19:28] <ikonia> mcl0vin: look in the access log
[19:29] <nick07_> i can choose between 2 versions
[19:29] <kostkon> pfifo, which cpu is it btw
[19:29] <ikonia> nick07_: so pick which version will best meet your needs
[19:29] <mcl0vin> ikonia: how and i can't access the box
[19:29] <nick07_> blender-2.65a-linux-glibc211-i686.tar.bz2 or blender-2.65a-linux-glibc27-i686.tar.bz2
[19:29] <ikonia> nick07_: but only install one
[19:29] <ikonia> mcl0vin: then how can we help you - and how can you fix it
[19:29] <Jordan_U> nick07_: What is your end goal? What is the name of this plugin and what does it do?
[19:29] <nick07_> yes, the question is here, how do i install it..?
[19:30] <ikonia> nick07_: open the package manage, find the package, click insall
[19:30] <ikonia> install
[19:30] <mcl0vin> ikonia: we can! i forgot i had x on that box ;)
[19:30] <kostkon> pfifo, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[19:31] <pfifo> Im trying to setup grub isoboot with the ubuntu 12.04 64bit livecd, and im  running into /boot/vmlinuz.efi which I think is the kernel, but the efi part is throwing me off, Ive never seen the kernel have a extension and have no idea about the new efi tech. Is this the kernel?
[19:31] <eer> My Ubuntu 13.04 system is English language. However, I don't want this terrible US date format month/day/year. Is there a way to change this in Evolution?
[19:31] <eer> I want day/month/year
[19:31] <nick07_> in the package manager it says a different version
[19:31] <pfifo> kostkon: http://fpaste.org/46367/13816063/
[19:31] <nick07_> so that is no option
[19:32] <nick07_> if i can download the correct version, like it did, how to install this tar.gz file?
[19:32] <hellyeah> hey
[19:32] <mcl0vin> ikonia: so i am in via nx. which access log are we talking about here? nothing in /var/log
[19:32] <ampw> how do i check gnome version from terminal
[19:32] <hellyeah> i  have some problem about mounting iphone on ubuntu
[19:32] <hellyeah> do you suggest anything about that
[19:33] <SeanBlader> @ampw: $gnome-session --version
[19:33] <mcl0vin> ikonia: find yeild ./log/cups/access-log is that what you ref to
[19:33] <ampw> SeanBlader: Much thanks
[19:33] <SeanBlader> :-) I knew something from the terminal!  E.g. when I open thunar as a normal user, I can click on the usb stick, but the directory is empty. But if I start thunar as root, I am able to see contents of the usb stick
[19:35] <ikonia> mcl0vin: yes, that's why I said "look in your syslog"
[19:35] <puff> Afternoon.  I have an hp 6520 printer/copier/scanner.  It has worked fine up until today, now it says it's out of photo paper when I'm trying to print something from notepad.
[19:35] <mcl0vin> ikonia: okay, what am i grepping for
[19:35] <Jerry_B> moontoise: did you run apt-get update first?
[19:35] <moontoise> yes
[19:36] <moontoise> Jerry_B yes dude
[19:36] <puff> There's regular paper in, the 6520 has a special loader for photo paper and it keeps popping up a dialog saying it's out of paper, and the on-printer screen says load photo paper.
[19:36] <ikonia> mcl0vin: I didn't say "grep" I said "look"
[19:36] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what am i looking for
[19:36] <mcl0vin> :)
[19:37] <ikonia> mcl0vin: an access error from ssh
[19:37] <Jerry_B> moontoise: you can check the ubuntu site to see what sources.list you need to have
[19:37] <Addle> faugusztin: I also just tried acpi_backlight=vendor and my screensaver and/or screen blanking turns on now. No screen dim setting anymore, though.
[19:37] <moontoise> Jerry_B , i do this, but ok, i try again :*
[19:38] <Jerry_B> moontise: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/gir1.0-atk-1.0/download
[19:39] <scott_w> hi, i'm thinking about getting a 13" MBP retina and putting ubuntu 13.04 in a parallels VM
[19:39] <Jerry_B> moontise: switch to x64 as needed
[19:39] <scott_w> so, before handing £1200 of my money over to amazon, i'm just wondering if there's anything i should know first ;-)
[19:39] <moontoise> Jerry_B Very thanks dude, i love u :*
[19:39] <ikonia> scott_w: be aware of issues with ubuntu fonts and retina pannels
[19:40] <ChaosInMind> So I'm having an issue with VSFTPD 3.0.2 on Ubuntu Server
[19:40] <kostkon> scott_w, why not 13.10?
[19:40] <cgtdk> scott_w: Why not get a Thinkpad?
[19:40] <minimec> moontoise: I don't know how or what package of gtk+ you want to install... Are you compiling? Ure error shouldn't happen. What you need is probably libatk1.0 and libatk1.0-dev, if you are compiling something.
[19:40] <ChaosInMind> It won't accept the no_anon_password=YES option.
[19:40] <scott_w> kostkon: you're right, i'll probably put that on, by the time it arrives
[19:40] <scott_w> (is 13.10 already out?)
[19:40] <kostkon> scott_w, ;)
[19:40] <cgtdk> kostkon: because it hasn't been released yet?
[19:40] <cgtdk> scott_w: it isn't
[19:41] <scott_w> cgtdk: because macs are sexier i'm afraid ;)
[19:41] <kostkon> scott_w, on the 17th
[19:41] <SeanBlader> 13.10 is pre-release mode.
[19:41] <cgtdk> SeanBlader: i.e., it hasn't been released yet
[19:41] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i can't find anything pertain to ssh
[19:42] <SeanBlader> Yeah, I'm not a power user by any stretch, but my google-foo is pretty good, so I usually load up the pre-releases.
[19:42] <LyzardKing> faugusztin: but is it possible to see what a key combination does?
[19:42] <scott_w> :-O i might run my work computers through the full upgrade process to kill productivity for next week
[19:42] <LyzardKing> to see what fn keys are calling
[19:42] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok, so run ssh -vv user@host and check the output for why you are being rejected
 i want to install php gtk, its say to i must install gtk+ first. i try to install gtk+ 3 , and this occured errors : "No package 'atk' found | No package 'pango' found | No package 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0' found"
[19:42] <ChaosInMind> ftp://mirror.liquidio.net/ on vsftpd set up for anon read only, but it always asks for a password.
[19:42] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: anonymous you still enter a password, it's just normally nothing/your email
[19:42] <minimec> moontoise: You have the wrong sources...
[19:43] <SeanBlader> Scott_W, it won't take a week unless you have like more than 10 computers to upgrade.
[19:43] <ChaosInMind> no_anon_password=YES
[19:43] <minimec> moontoise: ... package...
[19:43] <ChaosInMind> I have that set
 oops! how i can repair (upgrade) my source?!
[19:43] <SeanBlader> I did a fresh install of 13.10 in like 2 hours, that's with a /home backup, full format and re-partition, and upgrade to Gnome 3.10
[19:43] <hellyeah> i cannot mount iphone in ubuntu13.04 what the hell
[19:43] <pfifo> plut0: you still around?
[19:43] <mcl0vin> !flood
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: I have no_anon_password=YES set. I need this to act like a public ftp for downloads
[19:44] <scott_w> SeanBlader: there's 3, but i might upgrade our production web server too
[19:44] <scott_w> then leave the country before my CEO gets back and kills me
[19:44] <SeanBlader> LOL!
[19:44] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: have you restarted vsftpd after setting this ? have you got real users disabled ?
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> Yes, I've restarted it
[19:44] <ChaosInMind> local users are disabled
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> listen=YES
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> local_enable=NO
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anonymous_enable=YES
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> write_enable=NO
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anon_root=/var/ftp
[19:45] <FloodBot1> ChaosInMind: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <ChaosInMind> anon_max_rate=2048000
[19:45] <minimec> moontoise: If you use the package provided by the ubuntu repository, all dependencies should be resolved...
[19:45] <scott_w> out of curiosity, does 13.10 work better with the retina resolution?
[19:45] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228125/
[19:46] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: the man page says, if no_anon_password = yes then it can't ask for a password
 ok dude, thanks :*
[19:46] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228128/
[19:46] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: so either a.) you're editing the wrong file b.) you've made a typo c.) you've not restarted vsftpd
[19:46] <ChaosInMind> It's the only vsftpd file.
[19:47] <ChaosInMind> It's the only vsftpd file. /etc/vsftpd.conf
[19:47] <ChaosInMind> apt-get install vsftpd creates that .conf file
[19:47] <SeanBlader> scott_w I dunno, only have half HD here on my Dell Dev-edition ultrabook. I thought I heard on the interwebs somewhere that gnome 3.10 is looking better with high res displays.
[19:47] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: I can only explain the 3 most realistic options.
[19:48] <ChaosInMind> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228128/
[19:48] <flower-pot> exit
[19:48] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: you've already pasted that
[19:48] <xtriz> This is an Ubuntu Remix Live CD.For the default live system, enter "live".  To run memtest86+, enter "memtest" how can i get the ncurses menu instead of simple text ?
[19:48] <scott_w> SeanBlader: i've looked at that, it looks ok but i couldn't justify the price like i seem to be able to with the mac
[19:48] <ChaosInMind> I don't see a typo...
[19:48] <scott_w> i think it's pure decadance on my part though :-P
[19:49] <ikonia> xtriz: ubuntu remix is not an ubuntu distro
[19:49] <SeanBlader> scott_w: Yeah and they don't yet have a high res ubuntu ultrabook. I'm waiting on the haswell version.
[19:49] <SeanBlader> I couldn't use the mac's though, the keyboard is all weird.
[19:50] <scott_w> SeanBlader: you know what's doing it for me? it's the fact that macbooks seem to have the best trackpads of all the laptops i've tried
[19:50] <xtriz> ikonia, i was customizing ubuntu, ubuntu remix was given as an example on ubuntu wiki
[19:50] <SeanBlader> scott_w yeah but that goes away under Linux.
[19:50] <scott_w> i think i've reached that age where i'll pay a lot more just for those little things
[19:50] <ikonia> xtriz: right, so we don't support your remix
[19:50] <scott_w> i meant the sheer size of it
[19:50] <linuxnewbie> Hello, can someone help me with this - http://askubuntu.com/q/357142/14643
[19:51] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: I checked the init file, it is pointing to vsftpd.conf CONFFILE="/etc/vsftpd.conf"
[19:51] <xtriz> ikonia, np :)
[19:51] <scott_w> and i think the two-finger scroll still works (it works on the magic mouse i bought my mum last christmas)
[19:51] <SeanBlader> I know if you are using unity then the dell dev edition has 3 and 4 finger swipe support on the trackpad.
[19:51] <scott_w> is it a big trackpad?
[19:52] <SeanBlader> I guess it's not as big as the MBP's, but it's as big as it can be given the size of the device.
[19:52] <scott_w> how much did you pay, out of curiosity?
[19:52] <scott_w> i've just looked and it's only £900
[19:52] <scott_w> i'm sure it used to be more
[19:52] <ikonia> scott_w: maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:53] <SeanBlader> So a little bigger than like 5 keys across and like 3.5 keys tall on a standard keyboard.
[19:53] <ikonia> we are moving a bit away from ubuntu discussion
[19:53] <scott_w> ikonia: g point, i was thinking that too
[19:55] <m3kill> how to wakeup a process
[19:55] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind,   anonymous_enable=YES >> "ftp" and "anonymous" are recognised anonymous logins. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man5/vsftpd.conf.5.html
[19:57] <ikonia> OerHeks: that's a good spot
[19:58] <SynchronE> hi everyone
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ikonia: ?
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228125/
[19:58] <ikonia> mcl0vin: what ?
[19:58] <mcl0vin> ^^
[19:58] <ikonia> mcl0vin: look in the auth.log on the server see why it's rejecting it
[19:58] <mcl0vin> forgive me if you did respond
[19:59] <mcl0vin> ikonia: okay
[19:59] <ChaosInMind> OerHeks: I'm not sure what you are trying to say. I do not want people to "log in" I need it to be a public ftp with no login required.
[19:59] <SynchronE> I tried to make a persistent usb without usb-creator (no access to ubuntu machine, only debian). It boots okay without "persistent" kernel option, but with I add it - the output is pretty similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/683260
[20:00] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: they still have to login as the user "anonymous"
[20:00] <ikonia> try it
[20:00] <ChaosInMind> explain ftp://ftp.redhat.com then
[20:00]  * SynchronE used 13.04 x64 iso
[20:00] <ChaosInMind> they use vsftpd and it does not ask for a login
[20:00] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: how do you know thats vsftpd ?
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: and it ask for a login
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> It's on the vsftpd website
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: that doesn't mean "that server" is vsftpd, and it does ask for a login
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> If I go there with chrome or firefox it does not ask for a password.
[20:01] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, i am looking for the command to force the user as anonymous, by default, that is what you want
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: yes, because your browser fills in anonymous for you
[20:01] <OerHeks> ah browser side
[20:01] <ChaosInMind> Ok, then why does it ask for a password on mine then?
[20:01] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: on your command line ?
[20:02] <ChaosInMind> No, in the browser
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: as I've just said, it sends "anonymous" for you
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: try it in the command line and it will prompt you
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: it's a browser thing
[20:02] <SynchronE> Anyone has experience with usb live systems?
[20:02] <ChaosInMind> ftp://mirror.liquidio.net in firefox asks for a pw. ftp://ftp.redhat.com does not ask
[20:02] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: it's a browser thing
[20:03] <ChaosInMind> I hear you, but why for one site and not another?
[20:03] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: maybe they are serving ftp over http (redhat) and the other one is not
[20:03] <ChaosInMind> When people go to my site in a browser, I don't want them prompted for a password.
[20:03] <LinuxGuy2020> Can I install gnome3 on top of ubuntu server to get wifi card working, then remove gnome3 afterwards and still have the wifi work on a command line only server? Just wanted to do this to avoid having to manually configure the networking. Or is there a better easier way?
[20:03] <SynchronE> ChaosInMind: Thunar for ftp://mirror.liquidio.net says Connection refused
[20:03] <extraymond> Hi! Guys after upgrade fglrx driver to current updates, there is no amdcccle in dash.
[20:04] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: they are also serving it over http http://ftp.redhat.com/
[20:04] <SynchronE> ChaosInMind: also you can try and use<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:05] <ChaosInMind> Sorry, I rebooted the server that's why its connection refused.
[20:05] <ChaosInMind> I really need to mimic this without a username and password.
[20:05] <ChaosInMind> Just like ftp://ftp.redhat.com
[20:06] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: just so you know, if you try to login to the ftp.redhat.com server with any other user other than "anonymous" it fails
[20:06] <SynchronE> well Thunar asked me for credentials as soon as it seen the ftp:// link
[20:06] <ikonia> ChaosInMind: so OerHeks's statement was correct
[20:06] <SynchronE> i just chose anonymous
[20:06] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, so you want anonymous, leave line 10 out > no_anon_password=YES
[20:06] <ChaosInMind> no_anon_password=YES means don't ask for a password.
[20:06] <m3kill> how to wakeup a process
[20:07] <bekks> m3kill: How did you put it to sleep?
[20:08] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228205/
[20:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i don't understand what that log say
[20:09] <ChaosInMind> ikonia: ftp.redhat.com in firefox does not ask me for a username.
[20:09] <ChaosInMind> It goes straight to the directory.
[20:10] <ChaosInMind> ftp://ftp.redhat.com/ in firefox and chrome
[20:11] <pfifo> can someone running raring please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list for me
[20:13] <minimec> pfifo: That might help too. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:15] <OerHeks> ChaosInMind, oke, maybe guest_enable=YES ?
[20:16] <pfifo> minimec: ok that works
[20:16] <gregor_> floodbot1?
[20:16] <gregor_> LOL
[20:24] <ledtc> Hello, you guys know any program that creates like "installers" for Ubuntu? Beacuse i cant do apt-get on the server ?
[20:25] <aboasamah> I have a problem in lunching a program in ubuntu 12.04
[20:25] <pfifo> !aptoncd | ledtc perhaps an offline install
[20:25] <pfifo> !details | aboasamah
[20:26] <aboasamah> the program is GNU radio
[20:26] <aboasamah> Cannot import gnuradio.
[20:26] <aboasamah> Is the python path environment variable set correctly?
[20:26] <aboasamah>     All OS: PYTHONPATH
[20:26] <aboasamah> Is the library path environment variable set correctly?
[20:26] <aboasamah>     Linux: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:26] <FloodBot1> aboasamah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <ledtc> !offline
[20:27] <jrib> aboasamah: why aren't you using gnuradio from the repository?
[20:31] <ledtc> Guys im not realyl finding any smoth way to do this, Best/easiest way to install Curl on php5 in ubuntu Offline ?
[20:33] <reisio> ledtc: you have an offline web server?
[20:33] <pfifo> ledtc: just get the deb file and install with dpkg, i doubt php5-curl needs anything as far as deps go, maybe libcurl
[20:33] <ledtc> Do i need to do any configuring after installing ?
[20:34] <ledtc> I tried installing with dpkg but id did aint work of the bat
[20:34] <pfifo> ledtc: no, dpkg handles it
[20:34] <Ponch0> hey ubuntu, I need to downgrade to older version of automake, how can I accomplish that?
[20:34] <nixnine> anyone know how to download videos from an ipad?
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: from?
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: probably be simplest to use some bluetooth/s/ftp transfer app
[20:34] <reisio> nixnine: over wireless
[20:35] <nixnine> I'm not familiar with that
[20:35] <ledtc>  Errors were encountered while processing:  php5-curl
[20:35] <pfifo> ledtc: what errors?
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: go to app store, search for sftp
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: if that doesn't give any results, search for ftp
[20:35] <ledtc> pfifo how i isolate to the errors ?
[20:35] <ledtc> wall of text
[20:35] <reisio> nixnine: sftp is basically just ftp via ssh, so it works with sshd running on your Ubuntu, same user login, same pass
[20:35] <aboasamah> First Sorry that is my first time in an IRC channel:::::
[20:35] <aboasamah> I have installed gnuradio on ubuntu 12.04 and the problem when lunching the software it gives the following error:
[20:35] <aboasamah> Cannot import gnuradio.
[20:35] <aboasamah> Is the python path environment variable set correctly?
[20:35] <aboasamah>     All OS: PYTHONPATH
[20:35] <FloodBot1> aboasamah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <aboasamah> Is the library path environment variable set correctly?
[20:36] <pfifo> ledtc: pastebin the wall of errors
[20:36] <reisio> aboasamah: please stop being quiet!
[20:37] <ledtc> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/eHxgrAqr
[20:38] <ledtc> pfifo  5.3.10-1ubuntu3  =/=  5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7 ?
[20:39] <pfifo> ledtc: get an older php5-curl, or update your lamp stack (good luck doing that while offline)
[20:39] <ledtc> i need older Curl ?
[20:39] <aboasamah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228277/
[20:40] <pfifo> ledtc: I may have gotten it backwards, im assuming your like me and would have gotten the latest greatest php5-curl
[20:42] <ledtc> pfifo " php5-curl depends on php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3); however:   Version of php5-common on system is 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7." ... sound like i need a newer PHP-common ?
[20:42] <ChaosInMind> Are you using aptitude?
[20:42] <ledtc> pfifo , wait dafuq, i need and new php curl
[20:43] <ikonia> ledtc: tone down the language please, there is just zero need for it
[20:43] <pfifo> ledtc: it says it wants an older php5-common... 5.3.10-1ubuntu3 came before 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7
[20:44] <ledtc> pfifo, so eather i find a newer Curl, or i downgrade my php-common
[20:44] <pfifo> ledtc: refresh my memory, why arent we just connecting the machine to the internet again/
[20:44] <xtriz> when installing kubuntu desktop it will install all the default setting that kubuntu has right ?
[20:44] <ledtc> pfifo its VM host, set the VPN network
[20:44] <ledtc> VPN network do'nt have internet
[20:45] <aboasamah> I am sorry guys that is my first time in an IRC channel my problem as in the URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6228277/
[20:45] <reisio> xtriz: yup
[20:45] <pfifo> ledtc: yes you need a newer curl, look in the 'updates' repo
[20:46] <pfifo> ledtc: downgrading (or upgrading) php5 while offline will require you to download and install hundreds of millions of packages... i dont reccommend it
[20:46] <ledtc> pfifo  I would agree. How'ever will "php5-curl_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8_i386.deb" work ?
[20:46] <ledtc> its 3.8 not 3.7
[20:47] <pfifo> ledtc: I dont know
[20:47] <ikonia> you'll find it wants other dependencies
[20:48] <pfifo> you know which ones? Im guessing libcurl will be the only one
[20:49] <ledtc> i already got libcurl :)
[20:49] <ikonia> it probably won't to it without the other php modules being in sync
[20:49] <pfifo> ledtc: might have to upgrade it though
[20:49] <aboasamah> any answer please:::::::::::
[20:49] <pfifo> ikonia: im hoping to get the right php5-curl to match the existing mods
[20:50] <ikonia> pfifo: I've not been following, but why is this not being done online ?
[20:50] <ledtc>  php5-curl depends on php5-common (= 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8); however:   Version of php5-common on system is 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7.
[20:50] <ikonia> pfifo: if it's a web server, it standard to reason it will have internet connection
[20:51] <pfifo> ikonia: its on a virtual machine, have no idea why thats preventing it from getting to the internet, but thats the info I got
[20:51] <aboasamah> any answer please:::::::::::
[20:51] <ikonia> aboasamah: stop demanding an answer
[20:51] <ikonia> aboasamah: it doesn't inspire people to help you,
[20:51] <pfifo> ledtc: now your curl is too new
[20:51] <aboasamah> hahaha Sorry
[20:52] <ikonia> aboasamah: I'm not laughing, you've had multiple warnings and you keep annoying people to the point they don't help you
[20:52] <ledtc> pfifo , well *curse-word*
[20:53] <aboasamah> I apologized and I said that is my first time in an IRC channel I do not know the rules
[20:53] <ikonia> ledtc: grow up
[20:53] <ikonia> !guidelines | aboasamah
[20:54] <pfifo> ledtc: well I think your on the right track now
[20:57] <ledtc> pfifo finaly managed to isolate the right verison,  thx man. People like you is why i come to irc :)!
[20:59] <fishscene> gretchenp: Right-click > Properties > (one of the tabs) > [] Mark as executable
[21:00] <fishscene> Ignore me. Stupid irc program showed a conversation from yesterday *changes settings*
[21:00] <reisio> stupid program
[21:01] <fishscene> …and user :P
[21:01] <pfifo> fishscene: the simple fix here is to never log off IRC
[21:02] <andry> hm
[21:02] <andry> strange .. i had to install intels "official driver" from 01.org to get hw accel working in any player
[21:02] <andry> else i get a green screen
[21:03] <fishscene> That'd be easier if the library never closed. :) But anyway, I believe I fixed my timestamp issue. \:D/  Now I need to finish downloading ubuntu so I can get back to testing ubuntu-touch.
[21:03] <MoPac> Hello. I'm wondering if it's possible to create a folder that displays symlinks (or hardlinks, I guess) to whatever is in the folders at the end of a $PATH ?
[21:03] <litropy> What's the latest and greatest drop-down terminal?
[21:03] <kostkon> litropy, a moment
[21:03] <MoPac> It would be nice to create a drawer that had every program executable displayed in it...
[21:04] <andry> litropy, i tried guake once
[21:04] <andry> was nice
[21:04] <pfifo> MoPac: 'find' can do that
[21:04] <MoPac> !find
[21:04] <MoPac> ack, how does that ubottu info command work?
[21:04] <pfifo> MoPac: but... were talking like 3000 programs on my system, maybe more on yours
[21:05] <litropy> kostkon, k
[21:05] <pfifo> !info find-utils
[21:05] <pfifo> !info find
[21:05] <litropy> andry, k, will consider
[21:06] <njsg> MoPac: well, at least on gentoo the default behavior of dmenu is to build a list of all executables you can run from path
[21:06] <njsg> let me see if I can find how does that happen
[21:06] <andry> !info findutils
[21:06] <MoPac> pfifo: I know it would be a lot; and maybe I would want to pare it down to a smaller set of folders. But even after  being halfway migrated to Ubuntu from Windows for over a year, I still have the problem of not understanding where most of my program files actually are and wasting lots of time searching
[21:06] <pfifo> MoPac: find is built into your system, just run 'man find' from the terminal
[21:06] <kostkon> litropy, you said latest and greatest sooo http://iloveubuntu.net/advanced-terminal-final-term-received-another-significant-performance-improvements
[21:06] <MoPac> pfifo: thanks
[21:06] <maximus2> i have a question(anybody that is involved in jackass 1;1.5;2;2.5;3;and 3.5)
[21:07] <reisio> maximus2: probably somebody is, or else it wouldn't exist, whatever it is
[21:07] <maximus2> yes it exsist
[21:07] <njsg> MoPac: "stest -flx $PATH | sort -u"
[21:07] <reisio> maximus2: I figured it did, since you were talking about it
[21:07] <pfifo> MoPac: try building LFS, it will show you where programs are, tell you why you have every single one of them, and teach you how to get more information about them
[21:08] <litropy> kostkon, does it drop down?
[21:08] <MoPac> pfifo: Sorry, but with all the installation and config problems I've had that sounds like a nightmare...
[21:08] <kostkon> litropy, no, but it has a lot of effects
[21:08] <andry> for a quick search i prefere locate (but you need to updatedb, or wait for it do update via cron)
[21:09] <MoPac> njsg: is that command part of dmenu?
[21:09] <litropy> kostkon, thanks; appreciated.
[21:09] <andry> at least i think cron does it for mlocate
[21:09] <maximus2> well do they make the jackass movies with wee man anymore
[21:09] <reisio> yeah
[21:09] <njsg> MoPac: it is provided as a wrapper script in gentoo, give me a second
[21:09] <reisio> maximus2: try #entertainment
[21:09] <litropy> kostkon, actually, it does. Nice.
[21:10] <kostkon> litropy, oh nice then. also, the standard suggestion is quake, but there is also tilda
[21:10] <kostkon> guake*
[21:10] <litropy> kostkon, thx
[21:10] <kostkon> np
[21:11] <njsg> MoPac: it is provided as dmenu_run by the dmenu upstream
[21:11] <reisio> apt-file is your buddy
[21:11] <njsg> MoPac: so it should be available if you have dmenu, I guess
[21:12] <MoPac> njsg: So will that spit out a list of files at the end of $PATH, and then I paste them in a script to make symlinks in a folder? Or is there a shortcut to making a folder that has all the links made?
[21:13] <njsg> it just generates the list, making symlinks will be a bit more difficult, so yeah, maybe something with find is easier, as it'll be just one run
[21:13] <MoPac> njsg: [reading up on dmenu] Not sure I actually want to install a different window manager in order to work around this; thanks, though
[21:14] <njsg> dmenu should be independent from any window manager
[21:14] <njsg> it just happens that some window managers are dmenu-compatible
[21:14] <njsg> as in, it takes a part of the screen that'd not be in use by applications
[21:14] <MoPac> njsg: ah
[21:14] <AGormlessUser> After installing gnome-shell, gdm, gnome-core, and the like, I still don't see Pictures/Downloads/Videos/etc. in my home folder.  Some elements of the Gnome desktop environment rely on these folders' existence.  Simply creating the folders does not seem to have the intended effect.  Is there some additional package I should be installing?
[21:14] <njsg> dwm and i3wm are two of them (I actually think dwm is the one dmenu comes from)
[21:14] <AGormlessUser> Ah, jesus, that was longer than I thought.  Sorry.
[21:14] <MoPac> On a related note, I seem to have derped and forgotten how to manage what appears in the left-hand menu of nautilus
[21:15] <nick1> Hey I'm trying to install ubuntu so i can dual boot with windows 8. I am getting an error that I believe is associated with the fact that it's UEFI boot. The full text of the error is here: http://pastebin.com/4UeX8kiG
[21:15] <nick1> Can anyone help me get this installed?
[21:16] <OtsegoWeb> #wordpress
[21:16] <JZA_> first of it gets very slow sometimes, for no apparent reason.
[21:16] <JZA_> hi I have installed xubuntu on my SDcard but I have some issues
[21:16] <JZA_> I did dmesg and I got this Updating information on frequency 5580 MHz for a 20 MHz width channel with regulatory rule
[21:16] <JZA_> not sure if its related.
[21:17] <compdoc> there sure are a lot of updates for 12.04 lately. busy ppl at Canonical
[21:17] <reisio> at canonical, right
[21:18] <nick1> Anyone want to help me with an install?
[21:19] <OerHeks> wubi and windows 8 are no  go, nick1
[21:19] <OerHeks> !wubi
[21:21] <nick1> OerHeks thanks for that. I downloaded from /desktop/download though. Thought I had amd version instead of wubi. Am I in the right place?
[21:22] <OerHeks> !uefi | nick1 make space with windows 8 diskmanager and install it side by side, you need this page to handle UEFI
[21:26] <nick1> thanks for the link OerHeks... did not realize installing w/ win8 would be such a lengthy process
[21:26] <njsg> nick1: the most important part of using UEBI boot is 1) booting the install medium with UEBI and 2) realizing that UEBI is a standard and that some implementations do suck
[21:26] <njsg> s/EBI/EFI/g -.-
[21:27] <njsg> I've installed ubuntu once, and it was in a HP laptop. it required a partition to be marked "bootable" *and* for some reason it still needed me to "repair" the UEFI boot from a live cd
[21:28] <Ponch0> hello, I installed automake1.14 and compiled from source but instead I need to use automake1.13.4, how do I reverse the install ?
[21:31] <litropy> I went with guake, thx all
[21:32] <nick1> so after reading that... still confused haha. I boot from a liveUSB and then how do I install to hard drive?
[21:36] <Deas> can anyone direct me towards a guide or similar to how you make a persistant Ubuntu USB
[21:36] <Deas> all guides i find is bullshit
[21:36] <Deas> or out of date
[21:36] <njsg> nick1: the liveUSB will start (or have an option to start) the installation process
[21:37] <njsg> nick1: so you boot from the liveUSB, and you pick the option to install ubuntu to the hard disk
[21:37] <njsg> it should then even detect your current windows install and offer as one of the options "install side-by-side"
[21:37] <nick1> oh really... that didn't happen the first time i did this
[21:38] <njsg> nick1: (almost?) all linux systems are installed from live CD/USB/... nowadays
[21:38] <nick1> let me try again and report back
[21:38] <nick1> so but do i need to repartition my hard drive first or should i be okay?
[21:39] <njsg> Deas: if you have the time for reading on the technologies behind it and you want to do that, I strongly recommend looking for docs on knoppix. knoppix is *the* reference live cd, I think it was where the modern idea of "linux out of a CD" started, with plans to allow you to keep data on a USB pendrive
[21:40] <Deas> njsg: sounds intressting
[21:40] <Tylertwo> nick1, you can either repartition first or do it during the install. Either way there's some risk of losing data.
[21:41] <nick1> mm i see.
[21:42] <Deas> njsg_:  any hints towards where i should start reading?
[21:43] <pixiebit> http://goo.gl/opbNne
[21:44] <GZA_AFk> Deas: u can use unetbootin to create one
[21:45] <Deas> GZA-Genius: Tried that, does'nt keep changes
[21:46] <GZA-Genius> Deas:  what do u mean by not keeping changes, specifics, also did u set the amount of persistent data in unetbootin prior to creating?
[21:46] <GZA-Genius> Deas: I know they seem like dumb questions but they must be asked ;)
[21:47] <Deas> GZA-Genius: i set the persistent size to 8gb, as it claims that, if i put higher value then it has space for, it will use w/e is left on the drive
[21:49] <GZA-Genius> Deas: I may be wrong but i believe the max you can use is 4096MB
[21:50] <smiths> ssh root@<IP_ADDRESS>:fred2fred
[21:51] <foofoobar> Hi. So I executed a bash script which did something it should not do and which moved some files outside the directory it is working in
[21:51] <reisio> foofoobar: bummer
[21:51] <foofoobar> For the future: Can I "bind" all things I execute to a specific directory?
[21:51] <bekks> foofoobar: So which script was it?
[21:51] <foofoobar> bekks, own script
[21:51] <reisio> foofoobar: you could make a chroot jail
[21:51] <bekks> foofoobar: Show us.
[21:51] <GZA-Genius> Deas:  http://goo.gl/2TIDjM http://goo.gl/ETKFEM   First is docs from Ubuntu, second is unetbootin wiki, for better and definite answers i can only go by my experience I am def not an expert
[21:52] <smiths> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-password fred2fred
[21:52] <reisio> smiths: don't you have anything better to do than spam?
[21:52] <GZA-Genius> Deas: depending on what type of setup you are looking for the answers should be in there for you.
[21:53] <foofoobar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/TbEdQVHR
[21:54] <bekks> foofoobar: your script could have been a oneliner ;)
[21:54] <GZA-Genius> Deas: you also have to pay attention to where you save stuff to and make sure you are saving to the persistent fs and not something loaded in ram that you will loose upon reboot. Sorry for not being much help but the answer to all your questions will be in those links.
[21:54] <foofoobar> bekks, this script does strange things!
[21:55] <bekks> foofoobar: Because you did some strabge things using ls and did not transfer the instructions given in #ubuntu-de
[21:55] <foofoobar> bekks, ls -d -- */ lists me all directories, whats wrong with this?
[21:55] <foofoobar> And what instructions did I not follow?
[21:56] <bekks> foofoobar: find . -type d ...
[21:56] <Deas> GZA-Genius: it's ok, better then nothing i suppose
[21:56] <njsg> Deas: no specific idea, sorry, the first thing that comes to my mind is an article in an old brazilian magazine about how to customize knoppix, which is not even close to what you want
[21:56] <foofoobar> bekks, whats bad with ls -d -- */ ?
[21:56] <Hatter> Anyone familiar with running scripts in rtmpdump on linux? I have a script i run on windows that i dont know how to modily or run on linux
[21:56] <njsg> Deas: right now I'm a bit busy with homework, sorry
[21:57] <njsg> foofoobar: ls only operates on the current directory, and even with -R the output is not the same as find
[21:57] <Deas> njsg: no worries, no rush
[21:57] <brainacid> Hello room... gsettings is not working when I want to set my background image. any ideas thansk
[21:57] <foofoobar> njsg, I only want to operate in the current directory
[21:57] <bekks> foofoobar: Then use find.
[21:57] <brainacid> im on ubuntu 12, using xmonad for wm
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: gsettings is likely gnome only
[21:58] <foofoobar> bekks, yeah a "find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d" works too
[21:58] <foofoobar> bekks, something else wrong with the script?
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: if you want to use the gnome desktop (the one nautilus starts when started), you can use gsettings (I suppose) but you need to start the desktop manually
[21:58] <newboy> Installing ubuntu for first time, can anyone link me to documents explaining home folder encryption before i choose it in insalation?
[21:58] <foofoobar> Before I execute this thing again I want to "jail" it to the folder I'm executing it in to
[21:58] <foofoobar> I will read about chroot
[21:58] <njsg> brainacid: but if you want to use only xmonad, look into programs to set the X background
[21:58] <bekks> foofoobar: double usage of your ls -d, which is unnecessary.
[21:58] <brainacid> njsg, true
[21:59] <njsg> brainacid: it *may* be along the lines of setbackground, or setbg, I don't remember
[21:59] <brainacid> njsg, thanks
[21:59] <foofoobar> bekks, I'll replace it with the find one
[21:59] <bekks> foofoobar: Then you will have a double find, which is unnecessary.
[22:00] <njsg> brainacid: there's one xsetbg on my system
[22:00] <brainacid> xsetroot wont do images