[03:00] <easyu> frogzoo, should i change it in fstab ?
[03:01] <easyu> i never understood that buggy /media circus ...
[03:02] <b1shop> got it
[03:03] <b1shop> next questions.  what;s that grab entry to remember last booted OS?
[03:03] <b1shop> grub*
[03:03] <b1shop> "default=saved"
[03:03] <b1shop> nevermind!  ;-)
[03:03] <frogzoo> elias_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50313
[03:04] <imsai> anyone  who's got epson scanner to work with epkowa ? iscan ?
[03:04] <bigfoot1> in terminal , how do i check if something is in repositiory+
[03:04] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:04] <bart3k> bigfoot1: apt-cache search something
[03:05] <bigfoot1> bart3k: i got so many hits.
[03:05] <bigfoot1> bart3k: is there a way to limit the search to just the "title field" or filename field+?
[03:05] <bart3k> bigfoot1: apt-cache search something|grep what you want ;p
[03:05] <bigfoot1> will that limit it to just filename +
[03:05] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:06] <frogzoo> easyu: yes, edit /etc/fstab
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: apt-cache takes regex arguments
[03:06] <bigfoot1> fyrestrtr: wthat's regex
[03:06] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:07] <bigfoot1> i'm a synaptic boy.
[03:07] <marzec> greetings, could someone point me to a channel that could help me with a wireless usb card related problem?
[03:07] <bigfoot1> in synaptic, you can choose to limit searches to just filenames
[03:07] <bigfoot1> i thought terminal can do this, too.
[03:07] <marzec> or does anyone in here have experience with the wg111 usb stick ( from hell/netgear )?
[03:07] <snoops> I find the deskbar applet in gnome to be so incredibly handy - but whenever I reboot it freezes and has a hell of a time
[03:08] <snoops> is there alternatives?
[03:08] <ThaZZa> Hey All.. Can anyone help me with a permissions issue while mounting a drive?
[03:08] <Jesus> Someone in here (fyrestrtr) told me to run $ xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.se, to fix one of my keyboard problems, and now I got more problems... I can't change tty (i.e. Ctrl+Alt+FX doesn't work), and I cant write right paranthesises. Help?
[03:08] <snoops> freezes - and stops gnome-panel from loading properly so I have to kill the applet then it all finishes loading
[03:08] <dooglus> bigfoot1: you can do something like "apt-cache search web browser | grep -i browser" to search for packages with both 'web' and 'browser' in their name or description; the 'grep' bit will filter out all the ones which don't have 'browser' in the short description
[03:09] <seamus_ie> anyone know how to change mouse speed in X
[03:10] <bigfoot1> dooglus: how can i make a simple search in just the filename. say i want to see if there's a program that has the word "fox" in it
[03:11] <mille> Anyone of you guys know where I can get Enemy-Territory without having to register? Thanks in advance!
[03:11] <daxxar> http://www.g4tv.com/pile_landing.aspx?video_key=9038&pop=t
[03:11] <daxxar> Eh
[03:11] <daxxar> Never mind that. I don't know how it got on my clipboard, nor how it got in here. :|
[03:11] <daxxar> I don't even know what it is. :o
[03:11] <Lordveda> hello world
[03:11] <imsai> someone who could please help me with my scanner :) i did set /dev/usb/scanner0 in /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf , it won't work ..
[03:12] <Lordveda> Is there an official online site for Palm handheld related questions for Ubuntu?
[03:12] <imsai> ( i did get it to work in debian 2 years ago, strange it wont work in ubuntu thou .. )
[03:12] <LjL> imsai: have you enabled epkowa (and disabled epson) in dll.conf?
[03:13] <imsai> LjL: no epson is enabled
[03:13] <LjL> imsai: try disabling it
[03:13] <imsai> :) nice i'll fix that!
[03:13] <Lordveda> imsai: I get some weird attitude with the USB ports for my handheld
[03:14] <dooglus> bigfoot1: "apt-cache --names-only search fox" will do it
[03:14] <imsai> Lordveda: Okey
[03:14] <Lordveda> I need to make a static link to a static USB port so that gpilotd could listen to and hence sync with the Palm handheld
[03:14] <Lordveda> this doesn't happen to me
[03:14] <gatekeeper> bigfoot1: find / -name fox
[03:15] <gatekeeper> bigfoot1: what I have given is for searching for files on your hdd
[03:16] <imsai> LjL: "could not send command to scanner , check the scanner's status" this message do i get trying to start 'iscan'
[03:16] <LjL> imsai: run "scanimage -L" from root, does it show any scanner? and what about "sane-find-scanner"?
[03:17] <someothernick> anyone know of a app like waste for ubuntu?
[03:18] <imsai> LjL: No scanners were identified. it says, when trying command "scanimage -L"
[03:18] <LjL> imsai: ok, what about sane-find-scanner then?
[03:18] <imsai> LjL: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x010f [EPSON Scanner 010F] , chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:005:005
[03:18] <imsai>  when i try sane-find-scanner
[03:19] <easyu> can i change the partition label for hdd4 ?
[03:19] <LjL> imsai: edit /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf and comment out the line saying usb /dev/usb/scanner0  --  instead, add one saying   usb 0x4b8 0x010f
[03:20] <mezzrricki> can somone help me reset my permissions?
[03:20] <LMJ_Work> what's happening mezzrricki  ?
[03:20] <imsai> LjL: yes i did, it wont work , hmm strange
[03:20] <trev__> ok, i can't look at any files within my windows partitians, how do I fix that?
[03:21] <mezzrricki> I was trying to add my user to a dba group such that I could administer oracle, though I foolishly used usermod. this took me out of the admin group
[03:21] <hayden> is there a downloadable version of Ubuntu Server Guide by Ubuntu Documentation Team (to buy)?
[03:21] <imsai> LjL: this should not be in epkowa.conf ? > scsi EPSON
[03:22] <LjL> imsai: i'm not sure it can do any harm, but comment it out. it won't be useful for your USB scanner
[03:22] <imsai> LjL: yeah, i'll do so
[03:23] <trev__> when I try to look at a ntfs partitian i get a "Unable to mount the selected volume message", i only need read support
[03:23] <LjL> imsai: remember to be root when running scanimage, otherwise it'll always behave like it isn't finding anything
[03:23] <troozers> anyone know where you put the smb configuration for autofs?  it used to be /etc/auto.smb, but it has a script in there now :(
[03:24] <P1N3R> hey
[03:24] <P1N3R> can i get some help?
[03:24] <imsai> LjL: thx, mate! i'm loggedin as "root"
[03:24] <dooglus> P1N3R: just ask
[03:25] <P1N3R> grub is showing an error 22
[03:25] <P1N3R> so i cant load either windows xp or linux
[03:25] <LjL> imsai: also do something, just to be sure... in dll.conf, comment out *everything* except the epkowa (and perhaps "net")
[03:26] <trev__> can anyone please tell me how to mount a ntfs partisian
[03:26] <imsai> LjL: thx, i allready did that, thx thou!
[03:26] <imsai> LjL: heh, i worked with this for 3 hours now :), making me insane, ironic when i'm struggling with sane :)
[03:26] <P1N3R> i have two pcs showing this kind of symptom now
[03:26] <MenZa> !ntfs
[03:26] <LjL> !ntfs > trev__
[03:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:26] <dooglus> trev__: "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mount/ntfs" or some such
[03:26] <MenZa> LjL: bleh.
[03:26] <P1N3R> linux worked fine, so did windows
[03:26] <P1N3R> then all of a sudden it didnt
[03:27] <ThaZZa> ubotu: Can i ask you a question?
[03:27] <P1N3R> and on the other, i cant boot into linux at al
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about Can i ask you a question? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:27] <trev__> thx
[03:27] <P1N3R> i dont even see GRUB
[03:27] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you need to fix the mbr: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/55749-grub-error-22-a.html
[03:27] <MenZa> ThaZZa: ubotu is a bot.
[03:27] <dooglus> !ubotu
[03:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:27] <LjL> imsai: i know, i've had trouble with that too in the past... problem is, perhaps you're having a problem that i've also had, but since here it's been working for a while now, i don't quite remember the possible culprits =)
[03:27] <ThaZZa> MenZa: Oh well, can i ask you a question then? about mounts?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> what do you call the top and bottom horizontal areas on a Ubuntu desktop?
[03:27] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, i cant boot into windows xp setup
[03:27] <MenZa> ThaZZa: ask the channel :)
[03:27] <dooglus> bigfoot1: they're panels
[03:27] <bigfoot1> where, for example, the clock is?
[03:27] <bigfoot1> dooglus: ok
[03:27] <P1N3R> its hanging
[03:27] <bigfoot1> thanks
[03:27] <Khamael> will there ever be a flash 8 or above for ubuntu/linux?
[03:28] <ThaZZa> MenZa: Tried that like 15 mins ago.. twice.. got no answer.
[03:28] <bigfoot1> Khamael: good question
[03:28] <MenZa> !patience > ThaZZa
[03:28] <MenZa> :)
[03:28] <bigfoot1> many sites require version 8 now, don't they?
[03:28] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you have a windows install cd?
[03:28] <dooglus> Khamael: there will be a flash 9 I think
[03:28] <linux3> hey can someone help me with my wireless card
[03:28] <dooglus> Khamael: they're skipping flash 8
[03:28] <bigfoot1> dooglus: really?
[03:28] <bigfoot1> for linux/
[03:28] <linux3> with dhcp i won't get an ip
[03:28] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:28] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes i do
[03:28] <Lynoure> ThaZZa: no, you just mentioned you had a "permission issue" not which kind...
[03:28] <linux3> with static setup it can get an ip but drops the connection soon after
[03:28] <Dagataka> ubotu xgl
[03:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:28] <imsai> LjL: kind that you offer to help, mate!!
[03:28] <linux3> anyone know anything about how to fix this
[03:29] <ThaZZa> MenZa: I am just having trouble with permissions on a mounted ext3 drive.. I need to know how to override the permissions, when you are mounting a drive, so all users can read the drive.
[03:29] <linux3> it is for an intel ipw3945
[03:29] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, it just hangs though...
[03:29] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: go into the bios and make the CD the first thing it boots from rather than the hdd
[03:29] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I read it somewhere
[03:29] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: your install cd?
[03:29] <P1N3R> but its detecting it gatekeeper, and you can say 'boot from cd', and then it just hangs after pressing enter
[03:29] <imsai> LjL: with "sane-find-scanner" it did find found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON] , product=0x010f [EPSON Scanner 010F]  , strange it wont .. hmm telephone rings, brb
[03:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: macromedia say: "Based on the short time frame between announcing Flash Player 8 and Flash Player 8.5, we decided to work on developing a Linux version for Flash Player 8.5, which will ship after the Windows and Mac versions.
[03:30] <ThaZZa> MenZa: I am sure it is only a 3 second question..
[03:30] <LjL> imsai: oh try this     chmod g+rw /proc/bus/usb/001/00* ; chown root:scanner /proc/bus/usb/001/00*    (still all as root)
[03:31] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sounds like a hardware issue or a damaged CD
[03:31] <bigfoot1> ah
[03:31] <Oliver_123> hello
[03:31] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount -o umask=0 /dev/??? /mount/point
[03:31] <}btorch{> hello
[03:31] <}btorch{> hey anyone here heard about pyramid based on ubuntu
[03:31] <bigfoot1> dooglus: you rounded 8.5 to 9, eh+
[03:31] <P1N3R> gatekeeper, i have tried two copies of the installation cd
[03:31] <bigfoot1> ?
[03:31] <Oliver_123> i can't capture audio from the jack device
[03:32] <dooglus> bigfoot1: I think I read something else that plans for 8.5 had been put off, too; but maybe not...
[03:32] <CyDrive> anyone here reccomend a good c++ compiler with an ide and a good graphics library dosent matter about 3d at least 2d
[03:32] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Thanks tried that.. Keeps winging about wrong fs type.. Yet i am not picking a type.
[03:32] <dooglus> bigfoot1: maybe this?  http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/05/yes_virginia_th.cfm
[03:32] <imsai> LjL: i got libusb:005:005 should i try "/proc/bus/usb/005/00*" instead ?
[03:32] <Oliver_123> is there someone who hase experience with alsa and jack?
[03:32] <dooglus> ThaZZa: it's FAT3"?
[03:32] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sounds like a visit to your local computer supplier to me, may you CDROM is broken
[03:32] <dooglus> ThaZZa: it's FAT32?
[03:32] <LjL> CyDrive: *the* C/C++ compiler is GCC. as for the IDE, you just pick one... perhaps Eclipse. or anjuta.
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Ext3, or Riser i think.
[03:33] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: its booting the Ubuntu live cd fine...
[03:33] <LjL> imsai: yeah, i guess so
[03:33] <P1N3R> and Kubuntu live cd
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: It is from a working linux box.
[03:33] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount -t reiserfs -o umask=0 /dev/??? /mount/point
[03:33] <dooglus> ThaZZa: oh, I see!
[03:33] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Same error about fs. :-(
[03:34] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: hmmm don't know what to say
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: if it's a remote filesystem then you don't want to mount the device... you want to use smbfs or cifs or sshfs or nfs or one of those network-y filesystems
[03:34] <ThaZZa> dooglus: tailing the logs tells me the command umask is not a vaild option.
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: how is the filesystem shared/exported?
[03:34] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I guess reiserfs doesn't have a umask option, right
[03:35] <ThaZZa> dooglus: No.. not a remote file system.. Another drive, moved temp from the other machine to this one.. It is hdb1
[03:35] <P1N3R> ok gatekeeper thankyou for your help
[03:35] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have another issue if you dont mind?
[03:35] <user-land> thank you, frogzoo, now outside /media sudo chown works again.
[03:35] <dooglus> ThaZZa: the filesystem is mounted on the remote machine, right?
[03:36] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I see what you mean now.  you've physically moved the disk over.
[03:36] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Yes.. for a couple of days, so i can get some data off the drive.
[03:36] <dooglus> ThaZZa: if it's a Linux filesystem (reiserfs or ext3 for example) then it has permissions - some folders are only readable for certain users.
[03:36] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you can download bootdisk from www.bootdisk.com don't know if that is of any help to you?
[03:36] <ThaZZa> dooglus: I want to put it back in the machine after these days, in same state it came out.
[03:37] <i10neorg> I'm familiar with Debian, and am installing Ubuntu on a free partition to evaluate for my Dad.
[03:37] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: that will allow me to boot?
[03:37] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Is there no way of making it mount so everyone can read the fs.. Or do i need to chown -R for the filesystem as root?
[03:37] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you'll need to either (1) change the permissions on the disk (which you probably don't want to do, 'cos you borrowed the disk and don't want to change it), (2) log in as a user who has permission to read the files (you may have to make a new user with the right uid for this) or (3) become root, which solves all the problems
[03:37] <imsai> LjL: i did add usbcore
[03:37] <imsai> usb-uhci to /etc/modules , it doesn't work anyway , i will stop buzzing your a** now :) , thx for your help man!...
[03:37] <fourat> hello
[03:37] <i10neorg> Did a netboot install, let it update grub (it saw my Debian install as well), reboot.
[03:37] <dooglus> ThaZZa: I wouldn't chown it - the disk's owner will be pissed off with you, won't he?
[03:38] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: should do if you are able to burn it onto a CD somehow
[03:38] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:38] <fourat> ~# lpstat -p
[03:38] <fourat> lpstat: No destinations added.
[03:38] <ThaZZa> dooglus: I just feel this would be stupid way of doing it, as it would change all the owners, and stuff up when i put it back in the old system.
[03:38] <i10neorg> Saw grub with the new ubuntu entries as well as my pre-existing debian ones.
[03:38] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have this pc to burn with, so thats no problem
[03:38] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Any other ideas? if not chown?
[03:38] <LjL> imsai: oh wait, try removing usb-uhci and adding usb-ohci instead
[03:38] <i10neorg> Boot into ubuntu and was presented with a console login prompt.
[03:38] <dooglus> ThaZZa: chown is (1) in my monster sentence above.  (2) and (3) are better.
[03:38] <imsai> LjL: okey, i'll try :) ..
[03:38] <i10neorg> I was expecting some sort of second stage of the install???
[03:39] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i have another problem. This pc has Linux installed, yet it boots straight to windows over Linux
[03:39] <dooglus> ThaZZa: ie. either make a user with the right uid, or use root to copy the files, and chown *your* copies,  *after* you've copied them
[03:39] <P1N3R> GRUB doesnt even show
[03:39] <imsai> LjL: guess i've to reboot then ..
[03:39] <ThaZZa> dooglus: ok so check the ids in when as root. and make a user with the same id?
[03:39] <LjL> imsai: (leave /etc/modules alone for the moment, just rmmod usb-uhci and modprobe usb-ohci... you'll change modules later if it works)
[03:39] <dooglus> ThaZZa: mount the partition, and do an "ls -l" on the place you can't read
[03:39] <LjL> imsai: no, no need to reboot
[03:39] <imsai> LjL: okey! :)
[03:40] <}btorch{> is chkcconfig not part of basic debootstrap install ?
[03:40] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you don't need to be root to see the permissions on the folder you can't get into
[03:40] <i10neorg> Should there be a second stage to an install where X gets setup and whatnot?
[03:40] <dooglus> ThaZZa: 'cd' as far as you can go, then 'ls -l' to see the permissions
[03:40] <imsai> LjL: :) , FATAL: Module usb_ohci not found.
[03:41] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: never had to do that but this may help: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[03:41] <ThaZZa> dooglus: once the drive is mounted, only root can gain access to the mount path and do a ls.
[03:41] <dooglus> ThaZZa: do an "ls -ld" on the mount path itself
[03:41] <action09> hi !
[03:41] <ThaZZa> dooglus: i have a group setup that is same gid for the old and new system, and the user i am as is part of this group.
[03:41] <i10neorg> Should I just manually start the second stage of the install?
[03:41] <LjL> imsai: right. i was trying that on debian (that's where i have the scanner). try modprobe ohci-hcd instead
[03:41] <i10neorg> If so, what's the command?
[03:42] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: and this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[03:42] <froop> can anyone give me a little hand? i installed dapper yesterday on my laptop and everything was going quite nicely and it told me there were some updates to install
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:42] <dooglus> ThaZZa: does the directory have read and execute perissions for the group?
[03:42] <fourat> ~# lpstat -p
[03:42] <froop> so i let it go 12 hours on my dialup, no errors anywhere in the install bit and it tells me to reboot, i reboot and now after the post screen i just get a blank screen with a flashing cursor, hdd works for about 30 seconds then all is quiet
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat wont detect any printer in my lan, here's what it says :
[03:42] <fourat> lpstat: No destinations added.
[03:42] <fourat> i cant add a cups-shared printer :(
[03:42] <ThaZZa> dooglus: drwxrwx--- 9 root users 4096 2006-07-18 11:02 /isis/
[03:42] <imsai> LjL: that went nice!
[03:42] <ThaZZa> dooglus: group is users.. mount path is /isis
[03:43] <dooglus> ThaZZa: anyone in group 'users' should be able to get in there
[03:43] <action09> i've a question while using evolution/spamassassin, i try to learn the bayesian classifier with spam doing this: "sa-learn --spam --showdots --mbox ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.sbd/SPAMS"   and i got each time a segmentation error; is my command nok ? i think too that the mailbox format is used ,because it's one file.. correct ?
[03:43] <dooglus> ThaZZa: did you just add yourself to 'users'?  or were you in it already?
[03:43] <Dimensions> hi when i ssh my pc i can access one of my pc but when i try to access the first one from other one it can't access the other one
[03:43] <dooglus> action09: I use this: sa-learn --spam --mbox --progress < ~/.evolution/mail/local/Spam
[03:43] <NsHQ> http://world3.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=38043755
[03:43] <dooglus> action09: I think maybe you need the '<'?
[03:43] <imsai> LjL: No scanners were identified. when trying scanimage -L
[03:44] <user-land> how can i change partition labels ?
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: more /etc/group users:x:100:thazza
[03:44] <action09> dooglus  ok i'll do it right now i'll tell you thanks man
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: added myself with command, addgroup thazza users
[03:44] <dooglus> action09: the man page disagrees with me though - so maybe that's not the problem
[03:44] <LjL> imsai: try the chmod command again, it might have reverted to the previous permissions when loading the new module
[03:44] <i10neorg> What to do when Boot Installation Media -> Download, Install Grub Reboot -> Reboot Into Console (NO X or further prompting) ???
[03:44] <}btorch{> how can I get a list of files of a pkg that is installed on my system ?
[03:44] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you need to log out and in again for the group to take effect.
[03:44] <ThaZZa> dooglus: lol
[03:44] <dooglus> ThaZZa: doing a "ssh thazza@localhost" is enough
[03:45] <}btorch{> I have chroot to a partition where I installed unbuntu with debootstrap and I would like to slim it down
[03:45] <dooglus> ThaZZa: assuming you have an sshd running
[03:45] <}btorch{> remvoing some pkgs
[03:45] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: do you know which bootdisk i need?
[03:45] <ThaZZa> dooglus: Works now.. Yes reconnected via ssh
[03:45] <action09> dooglus and all: bayes: bayes db version 0 is not able to be used, aborting! at /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm line 195. ..and a segfault, it's more a configuration problem on my sied so ?
[03:45] <ndlovu> what's the best strategy for mounting samba shares? I currently mount them through fstab, using a credentials file. the trouble is that I have to manually mount them again each time I reboot.
[03:45] <ThaZZa> dooglus: learn something new everyday.. was wondering how it updated the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
[03:45] <jrib> }btorch{: for your first question, I think the answer is: dpkg -L package_name
[03:45] <imsai> LjL: no luck, i should have i look at epkowa.conf again ..
[03:45] <dooglus> action09: sounds like you're using an old database.
[03:46] <Sakireth> Which video card driver is faster for my ATI Radeon 9600 XT, 'ati', 'radeon', or 'fglrx'?
[03:46] <ThaZZa> dooglus: looks like the problem is fixed. .Thanks for your help.
[03:46] <dooglus> ThaZZa: don't understand it myself - the 'adduser' updates /etc/group, but that's not enough.
[03:46] <kbukhari> hello all
[03:46] <wastrel> Sakireth:  fglrx will be faster for 3d
[03:46] <}btorch{> jrib, yeah just tried dpkg-query -l
[03:46] <Sakireth> wastrel: and for 2d?
[03:46] <kbukhari> i want to install yahoo on 6.0.6
[03:46] <wastrel> Sakireth:  dunno, not a great difference as far as i can tell.
[03:46] <kbukhari> with apth
[03:46] <Seveas> kbukhari, applications  internet  gaim
[03:46] <kbukhari> how can i ?
[03:47] <Seveas> kbukhari, that can do yahoo
[03:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I would guess at Windows XP Fresh Install not exactly sure
[03:47] <dooglus> ThaZZa: you might have found that "newgrp users" would have fixed it without the need to ssh in again
[03:47] <kbukhari> no
[03:47] <kbukhari> yahoo
[03:47] <imsai> LjL: maby its because i did alien an .rpm package with iscan ?
[03:47] <i10neorg> what should I see after the first reboot after booting insallation media?
[03:47] <Seveas> you cannot install the yahoo proprietary crud via apt
[03:47] <Sakireth> wastrel: Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:47] <kbukhari> i want to use yahoo's client for linux
[03:47] <Wolfman-K> how can I make a service like psybnc load on start up?
[03:47] <}btorch{> so I simple apt-get remove alsa-utils should do the trick right
[03:47] <sorush20> I have a pentium four 3ghz I don't knoow if its a 686 or 386?
[03:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307654
[03:48] <LjL> imsai: bleah, don't do that. but, no, i don't think that'd be the culprit
[03:48] <}btorch{> wierd is that a dpkg --get-selections shows it as deinstall
[03:48] <ThaZZa> dooglus: computers.. Grrr. lol
[03:48] <}btorch{> why not just removed ?
[03:48] <imsai> LjL: hehe!
[03:48] <ThaZZa> dooglus: all my issues are sorted now.. Thanks Man.. :D
[03:48] <wastrel> Sakireth:  the howto worked for me...
[03:50] <kbukhari> kokoko1,  hello
[03:50] <froop> ...nobody?
[03:50] <dooglus> action09: check this out: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2005-May/046914.html
[03:50] <action09> dooglus  thx
[03:50] <dooglus> thansen: you're welcome
[03:50] <kbukhari> kokoko1,  hello
[03:50] <wastrel> sorush20:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:51] <gnoshi> hi - a quick question - what is or how does one create a .dsc file for use with pbuilder?
[03:51] <wastrel> sorush20:  the cpu family line will probably say 6
[03:51] <jrib> gnoshi: well you can download the source with apt-get source or you can read the guide on help.ubuntu.com for packaging
[03:51] <samu2> hmm \w in my regexp doesnt seem to match scandinavian chars, any ideas?
[03:52] <Sakireth> [15:47]  <Sakireth> wastrel: Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:52] <gnoshi> ah - I was looking in the wiki under the pbuilder howto
[03:52] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: that process says i should use the Ubuntu installation cd, i only have a Live cd. WIll that work as well?
[03:52] <wastrel> Sakireth:  howtos worked for me.  you need to make sure that 1. the fglrx module is running, and 2. the xorg.conf is set to use the fglrx driver.
[03:52] <MrRagga> hi, my reiserfs partitions are messed up, does anybody know some good tools to recover? i've already tried testdisk
[03:53] <LjL> imsai: perhaps try   export SANE_DEBUG_EPKOWA=128  , and then again scanimage -L
[03:53] <wheelswitch> what is the bash command to show where your data is stored? like makes it easier to find big files / folders
[03:53] <action09> dooglus  same :/ i remove all bayes* in ~/.spamassassin, stopped sa, i did a sa-learn --sync -D which told me this time "[22868]  dbg: bayes: files locked, now unlocking lock
[03:53] <action09> [22868]  dbg: locker: safe_unlock: unlink /home/action09/.spamassassin/bayes.lock
[03:53] <action09> " it seems ok but while i'm learning now again it segfault another time
[03:53] <Wolfman-K> hello, does anyone know how can I make a service like psybnc load on start up?
[03:54] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I think so you could try this first: grub-install /dev/hda http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[03:54] <action09> wheelswitch kdirstat - graphical disk usage display with cleanup facilities may help
[03:54] <dooglus> Wolfman-K: look in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d
[03:54] <LjL> wheelswitch: "du | sort -n" perhaps. that'll show all folders and subfolders sorted by size. might take a while
[03:54] <mezzrricki> can someone help me restore admin privledges?
[03:54] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[03:54] <AngryElf> if I close a terminal is the buffer deleted or saved somewhere?
[03:54] <wheelswitch> cheers LjL
[03:54] <dooglus> wheelswitch: do you know about the graphical tool which shows where your disk space is being used?
[03:55] <Shak-> is it possible to lock my iwconfig settings depending on the mode? e.g. if I move to mode monitor im unassociated to an AP, then when I come back to Managed im randomly connected to some ap in my area
[03:55] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i tried it last night, i couldnt get it working
[03:55] <Sakireth> Hmm.. how to get fglrx? Followed the howto's, but i got the SGI line at the glxinfo thingy. But i did get 3D acceleration
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: it's called 'baobab'
[03:55] <dooglus> !info baobab
[03:55] <ubotu> baobab: graphical tool to analyse directory trees. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1 (dapper), package size 95 kB, installed size 584 kB
[03:55] <wheelswitch> dooglus:  no
[03:55] <wheelswitch> ill give it a look
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: it's relatively nice
[03:55] <dooglus> wheelswitch: looks quite a lot like 'treesize' on windows
[03:56] <wheelswitch> thanks action09 dooglus
[03:56] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: try the other method, there is a dapper text installer which may give you more control which you can download, the alt cd
[03:56] <dooglus> action09: you could try #spamassassin here on freenode
[03:56] <Sakireth> anyone?
[03:57] <action09> dooglus  i cross post yeah /0\  thanks anyway for your help
[03:57] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: the other method?
[03:58] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[03:58] <action09> anyway i'm using Ubuntu till Breezy and i did dist-upgrade each new release but now for days i'have lot of apps killing/vanishing/stopping by themselves: gaim, firefox,rhythmbox.. i don't understandhow can i search for clues, strace maybe..
[03:58] <Sir_Fawnpug> Jesus christ I must be a nerd
[03:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> I just recorded a song about my monitor dying.
[03:59] <JohnRobert> tell me about it
[03:59] <JohnRobert> oh
[03:59] <dooglus> action09: you could run the apps inside gdm I guess
[03:59] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: I am not an expert on grub, so far not had your misfortune (crosses fingers :-) )
[03:59] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: where can i get the installation cd?
[03:59] <dooglus> action09: or turn on core-dumping
[03:59] <user-land> is a firewall activated by default ? can i disable it ?
[03:59] <P1N3R> the one that is talked of
[03:59] <P1N3R> ?
[03:59] <Sakireth> mwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeheheehhehe i want fglrx! :"(
[03:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> Sakireth, yes, it's very sad.
[03:59] <user-land> where can i access the partitioner ?
[03:59] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: ubuntu one?
[03:59] <Sakireth> Sir_Fawnpug: Myeah.
[03:59] <dooglus> user-land: "fdisk"?
[04:00] <user-land> oh ...
[04:00] <Spec> !firewall > user-land
[04:00] <action09> dooglus  to generate a core-dump, i'll check thanks
[04:00] <dooglus> user-land: the firewall is always on, but by default allows everything
[04:00] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes. i have the live cd, just not the installation cd. unless that is what is talked about?
 Don't wear out my name!
[04:00] <mezzrricki> can someone help with groups?
[04:00] <gnoshi> out of curiosity, has anyone managed to get zfone working?
[04:01] <jrib> mezzrricki: what about them?
[04:01] <user-land> dooglus, thanks, can i switch it off ?
[04:01] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you using breezy or dapper?
[04:01] <Sakireth> !fglrx
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:01] <mezzrricki> getting myself back into the admin group
[04:01] <}btorch{> damn it I removed gcc-4.0-base and it removed aptitude, apt-utils and apt
[04:01] <dooglus> user-land: it's built into the kernel, so I don't think so.  but it has no rules by default, so it's effective off
[04:01] <}btorch{> how can i get that back since i don't have apt anymore
[04:01] <jrib> mezzrricki: do you have any accounts with sudo access or have you enabled root?
[04:01] <}btorch{> :-(
[04:01] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: i dont know the difference?
[04:01] <dooglus> user-land: it's on, but doing nothing - allowing all connections, blocking nothing
[04:01] <mezzrricki> no root, no other sudoers
[04:01] <definity> is there a way to get my infrared working so i can see data comming in?
[04:01] <dooglus> }btorch{: you still have "dpkg"?
[04:02] <mezzrricki> I did a number on myself
[04:02] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: 6.06?
[04:02] <}btorch{> yes
[04:02] <jrib> mezzrricki: reboot and choose recovery mode from grub, then: adduser your_user_name admin
[04:02] <dooglus> }btorch{: you still have a bunch of .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[04:02] <definity> how can i do it anyone knw?
[04:02] <mezzrricki> alright I'll be back
[04:02] <Sakireth> aww COME ON!~
[04:02] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: that's dapper :-) http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[04:02] <}btorch{> yes
[04:02] <Sakireth> all i'm asking for is video card help :(*
[04:02] <mezzrricki> thank you
[04:02] <}btorch{> all there
[04:02] <}btorch{> cool
[04:02] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: dapper livecdalso allows you to install
[04:02] <dooglus> }btorch{: hopefully "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt*.deb" will sort you out
[04:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> Jesus, my apologies, oh exalted one.
[04:03] <newtux> /win close
[04:03] <wheelswitch> action09 dooglus : it was a nice tool indeed, thanks!
[04:03] <Arclite> Do LiveCDs have any history of problems that affect the computer after rebooting into the normal OS?
[04:03] <dooglus> }btorch{: actually, you might want to be a bit more careful about exactly which .deb files you use, but you get the idea
 np ;)
[04:03] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: is that the installation cd then?
[04:03] <tristanmike> Has anyone any experience installing the "ePSXe" that can give me a hand ?
[04:03] <action09> wheelswitch i saw it first time on windows, windirstat, but it's an open source tool afair
[04:04] <dooglus> wheelswitch: if you just want to find big files, you can "find . -size +1M -ls" (where the 1M means 1 meg, and can be changed to whatever you like)
[04:04] <action09> very useful tool
[04:04] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: it is now :-) but like I said there is the alt CD which I think comes with the old text installer
[04:04] <}btorch{> ok it just depends on some other stuff that also got removed , i thought by uninstalling gcc-4.0-base I would removing only gcc4 since I want to installed gcc3.x
[04:04] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: you should have an icon on the desktop Install
[04:05] <wheelswitch> nah, more about finding big dirs
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: you're going to have to chase down the dependencies yourself, but hopefully they'll all be in that cache dir
[04:05] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: yes
[04:05] <P1N3R> i do
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: if not, you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to hunt them down.
[04:05] <P1N3R> i'll give it a try eh?
[04:05] <dooglus> }btorch{: makes you appreciate apt-get doesn't it?
[04:05] <}btorch{> yes
[04:06] <i10neorg> Any reason why after rebooting from the first stage of the installation I'd get a console login prompt instead of the second stage of the install?
[04:06] <calamari> hi
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> join #Kde
[04:06] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: good luck
[04:06] <dooglus> }btorch{: I just tried removing gcc-4.0-base, and it told me: The following packages will be REMOVED cpp-4.0 g++-4.0 gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base libstdc++6-4.0-dev
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> hi
[04:06] <definity> has any one here used kismet?
[04:06] <Sakireth> ...
[04:06] <Sakireth> oops
[04:06] <Sakireth> i forgot.. offtopic channel
[04:06] <calamari> anyone else having trouble checking their yahoo mail?
[04:06] <dooglus> }btorch{: no idea why it took apt-get away from you
[04:06] <Sakireth> Can anyone please help me with this problem?
[04:06] <Spec> Sakireth: so, what's your problem?
[04:07] <Sakireth> well
[04:07] <Sakireth> Video card.
[04:07] <Spec> Sakireth: please don't ask if someone will help you
[04:07] <}btorch{> no
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> ATI
[04:07] <Sakireth> I try installing FGLRX and stuff..
[04:07] <}btorch{> it never told me that
[04:07] <Sakireth> according to the howto. tried it all, sadly, i still get the SGI line
[04:07] <dooglus> }btorch{: are you sure you didn't accidentally type 'sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.0-base apt'?
[04:07] <gatekeeper> calamari: tried it this morning and ok, hang on...
[04:07] <Spec> i don't know anything about fglrx, can't help, sorry :)
[04:07] <Sakireth> BUT i DO get direct rendering
[04:07] <Paddy_EIRE> Which Ati card u using
[04:07] <Sakireth> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
 How do u enable direct rendering
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: still fine
[04:08] <Sakireth> ... I didn't say that, Paddy_EIR.
[04:08] <FSK405C> any idea on audio under quake3 with dapper? typical solutions tried and failed. :(
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> oh, sry
[04:08] <calamari> gatekeeper: thanks for checking, weird then
[04:08] <}btorch{> i used dpkg -r gcc-4.0-base
[04:08] <definity> has any one here used kismet?
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: I am using the uk one
[04:08] <Spec> !anyone
[04:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:08] <gatekeeper> calamari: np :-)
[04:09] <user-land2> thank you, dooglus, my router gave me a new internal IP number for the new motherboard, that's why i had problems.
[04:09] <}btorch{> anyway I thought by having gcc-4.0-base i had the gcc4 compiler but i guess not
[04:10] <feydin> hi, i got massive entries in dmesg of this kind: nv_sata: Primary device added
[04:10] <dooglus> }btorch{: if I try that it won't let me: dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of gcc-4.0-base:
[04:10] <feydin> anyone seen this before?
[04:10] <dooglus> }btorch{: dpkg doesn't handle dependencies?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> I downloaded and installed Kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu recently and since have a a few little minor problems.  For one the splash screen now loads up the kubuntu one (i miss my ubuntu splash) and two the kde panel is a little missing, anyone fancy helping me out
[04:12] <}btorch{> so proper way to remove i pakage should be apt-get remove
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: yes.
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: did you just run "sudo dpkg -r gcc-4.0-base", and that took lots of stuff with it?
[04:12] <bigfoot1> how do i know what file system I am using?
[04:12] <dooglus> }btorch{: or did you use an extra flag to tell it to remove dependencies too?
[04:13] <erUSUL> bigfoot1: mount
[04:13] <dooglus> bigfoot1: mount | grep ' / '
[04:14] <i10neorg> What command is used to begin the second stage of an fresh install?
Is this card any good ATI Radeon 9600 XT and how much do ut think i could pick one up for
[04:15] <}btorch{> yes
[04:15] <Boglizk> According to 'apt-cache policy firefox' i have version 1.5.4 of Mozilla Firefox. But the About Mozilla Firefox dialog says 1.5.2
[04:16] <jrib> Boglizk: what does 'readlink -f $(which firefox)' say, without the quotes
[04:16] <robin> Okay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'
[04:17] <Boglizk> opt firefox firefox
[04:17] <robin> Paddy_EIRE: Okay i tried everything in the fglrx howto again but i still get NO direct rendering and the string remains 'SGI'
[04:18] <cosmicShadow> robin: what card do you have?
[04:18] <robin> cosmicShadow: ATI Radeon 9600 XT :P
[04:18] <senshine> can someone point me to a link of the orginal sources.list on a default install. I just over wrote mine. 6.06
[04:19] <robin> cosmicShadow: Upon first installation when i tried it it worked fine. Must've ruined something
[04:19] <cosmicShadow> all right.
[04:20] <dr_willis> !easysource
[04:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:22] <cosmicShadow> robin: sudo apt-get remove xorx-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r),the apt-get install the same thing.  restart, and it should work.
[04:22] <robin> alriht
[04:22] <robin> i'll try
[04:22] <senshine> thanks
[04:23] <cosmicShadow> robin: reinstall the linux-restricted-modules package first when re-installing.
[04:24] <Augustus> hey
[04:24] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:25] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[04:25] <MrRagga> what is the name of the bot used in here?
[04:26] <krism> !help > MrRagga
[04:26] <MrRagga> Krhis: ah, infobot thanks
[04:27] <MrRagga> Krhis: sorry
[04:27] <MrRagga> krism: thanks
[04:28] <Sakireth> Alright cosmicShadow, it works, but i still got SGI as string line
[04:28] <Sakireth> although DRI is on now
[04:28] <Sakireth> direct rendering: Yes
[04:28] <Sakireth> server glx vendor string: SGI
[04:29] <bigfoot1> in synaptic, what does the ubuntu logo to the left of a package signify?????
[04:30] <dooglus> bigfoot1: flash 8.5 has been renamed to flash 9 - so luckily I was rounding anything earlier :)
[04:30] <bigfoot1> ah
[04:30] <bigfoot1> any ETA?
[04:30] <Boglizk> Flash 9 is out for Linux? :o
[04:30] <dooglus> "early 2007"
[04:31] <Boglizk> oh..
[04:31] <Boglizk> shame... theres tons of great flashmovies i'm not able to watch..
[04:31] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: ok... lemme think.
[04:31] <wastrel> Boglizk:  don't worry, everyone will be using flash 10 by the time 9 is out for linux
[04:32] <wastrel> so you still won't be able to watch them
[04:32] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:32] <bigfoot1> quick q: in synaptic, what does the ubuntu logo to the left of a package signify?
[04:32] <Boglizk> lol wastrel, thats true
[04:32] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: k.
[04:32] <vinboy> how do I make my console colorful?
[04:32] <dooglus> Boglizk: this is the blog of one of the guys working on the Linux port: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[04:33] <Boglizk> I've seen it
[04:33] <dooglus> ok
[04:33] <Krhis> MrRagga, It's ok. ^_^
[04:33] <jes-o-mat> Hi
[04:33] <dooglus> bigfoot1: could it mean that the package is in 'main', and therefore gets security updates?
[04:33] <Skaag> anyone here uses openoffice?
[04:33] <Jesus> Everytime I restart my comp. I need to reinstall GRUB, got any ideas why?
[04:33] <bigfoot1> dooglus:  beats me
[04:33] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i do
[04:34] <Boglizk> Or its tested on Ubuntu and it works?
[04:34] <jes-o-mat> I always goet the follwoing error while kernel-image building via make-kpkg (dapper): dpkg-gencontrol: error: package kernel-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1 not in control info
[04:34] <Skaag> bigfoot1: you ever tried adding a watermark to a document?
[04:34] <jes-o-mat> any ideas?
[04:34] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i was wanting to do that 2 weeks ago, but wasn't succesful
[04:34] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: all i can think of is to check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, under devices, make sure the card driver is set to 'fglrx'
[04:34] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I add one, according to the instructions, but when I want to select text that's above the watermark, it selects the watermark instead
[04:35] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I found a page with instructions on how to do it
[04:35] <Sakireth>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV350 AR [Radeon 9600 XT] "
[04:35] <Sakireth>         Driver          "fglrx"
[04:35] <Skaag> bigfoot1: but that problem persists...
[04:35] <bigfoot1> maybe ask in openoffice chatroom
[04:35] <bigfoot1> or post on their forum
[04:36] <cosmicShadow> hmm... check your Xorg.0.log file (under /var/log) for any driver problems.
[04:36] <user-land2> is there a gui partitioner in ubuntu ?
[04:36] <yggdrasil> hello, i installed ubuntu on a computer that had windows and the dell stuff on its first partition and now i would like to erase that partition, how do i check if its going to mess up my grub ?
[04:36] <Augustus> i was wondering could someone help me with the sound "issue" i got after updating? :o
[04:36] <satempler> user-land2: yes gparted
[04:36] <boricua> having issues with bluefish  how can i preview code in firefox  when i click in bluefish/preview all it does it open the page as if was an  editor i would like to preview the page as if it was a browser
[04:36] <bigfoot1> Skaag: i'd love to know if you're successful
[04:36] <definity> can anyone tell me how i can get my infrared working?
[04:36] <user-land2> satempler, how can i start it ?
[04:37] <bigfoot1> Skaag: when you find out  the answer, can you emial me?
[04:37] <Skaag> bigfoot1: I'll find a solution, if there is one
[04:37] <Skaag> sure
[04:37] <Skaag> I will write about it on my blog
[04:37] <Skaag> www.skaag.net
[04:37] <bigfoot1> ok
[04:37] <Skaag> but sure mail me and i'll reply back
[04:37] <RvGaTe> !seen serge
[04:37] <Skaag><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:37] <ubotu> I last saw Serge<EMAIL_ADDRESS>8h 31s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[04:37] <satempler> user-land2: sudo apt-get install gparted then it should be in System Admin
[04:37] <user-land2> thank you.
[04:37] <imsai> LjL: do you think it has something to do with not having my scanner plugged in to my notebook when i did install ubuntu ? maby then it would recognize it on the usb ?
[04:37] <RvGaTe> !seen styleuk
[04:37] <satempler> np
[04:37] <ubotu> I last saw styleuk<EMAIL_ADDRESS>5h 6m 18s ago, quiting: "Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"
[04:37] <RvGaTe> hmz
[04:38] <LjL> imsai: the scanner module thing shouldn't be needed, or even easily possible to do in ubuntu. basically iirc there were two ways epkowa could access the scanner: through the "scanner" module and through libusb. libusb i think is preferred, and in the case of ubuntu there is no scanner module anyway
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen kde
[04:38] <ubotu> I haven't seen kde recently
[04:38] <krism> !seen krism
[04:38] <ubotu> krism is on IRC right now!
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen ubotu
[04:38] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[04:38] <LjL> imsai: i don't think so
[04:38] <Sakireth> heh.
[04:38] <LjL> !msg the bot
[04:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[04:38] <Sakireth> !seen \r\n
[04:38] <ubotu> I haven't seen \r\n recently
[04:38] <imsai> LjL: okey, thx! :)
[04:39] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me what Buffer I/O error on device hdd, mean
[04:39] <bigfoot1> Skaag: thanks. i've just emailed you
[04:39] <LjL> stop playing with the bot, please
[04:39] <Deanodriver> hello :)
[04:39] <Sakireth> alright.
[04:39] <RvGaTe> please... i did it for a purpose... not to trigger a flood...
[04:39] <Deanodriver> I've installed Acrobat Reader, and now whenever I try to load a PDF in Firefox, it will load up the PDF in a separate window, rather than having it run under Firefox, is there any way to fix that?
[04:40] <Deanodriver> when it asks me what program to use to open the PDF, I just put down acroread
[04:40] <Deanodriver> does it need any specific options?
[04:40] <yggdrasil> hello, i installed ubuntu on a computer that had windows and the dell stuff on its first partition and now i would like to erase that partition, how do i check if its going to mess up my grub ?
[04:41] <satempler> yggdrasil: should be fine to delete it
[04:41] <yggdrasil> i just want to make sure its on mbr or something
[04:41] <satempler> yggdrasil: just make sure to run sudo update-grub
[04:41] <yggdrasil> ahh good point ok
[04:42] <satempler> and the device /dev/hda
[04:42] <yggdrasil> i would leave it but the dam whole os is taking up 9.5 gb and ive got thru and cleaned it all.
[04:42] <LjL> imsai: oh by the way, did you install the epkowa backend from the epson avasys site, or did you use the ubuntu package?
[04:42] <LjL> imsai: (guess the latter, since i think it's installed by default)
[04:42] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: I'm here
[04:42] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: Alright.
[04:43] <Sakireth> cosmicShadow: check your PM then
[04:43] <yggdrasil> satempler ok one more question, ive got 4 partitions ones the dell thing like 10mb the others a 10gb ntfs , my 15gb  / on ext3 and a 15gb hda7 ext3 and my / is in the middle of them all. how can i combine the parts at the begining of the disk and the part at the end of the disk, or move my current / to the first partition ?
[04:43] <cosmicShadow> Sakireth: I did - something isn't working right, I guess.
[04:43] <}btorch{> hmm i wish i could make my ubuntu smaller less than 184
[04:43] <}btorch{> mb
[04:44] <}btorch{> i have removed the apt caches
[04:44] <yggdrasil> thats pretty small
[04:44] <alex_ndc> if I start an application ... does anyone know how can I start it under a specific user, like [apache] , without logging as that user ?
[04:44] <satempler> yggdrasil: try booting up with the Desktop CD of ubuntu and run gparted
[04:44] <satempler> that should help you out
[04:44] <wheels3572> Is there any way I can use a partitioner from a Live CD?
[04:44] <yggdrasil> gparted ? hmm.. will that let me move them around ?
[04:44] <imsai> LjL: i did install iscan, it did have epkowa in it
[04:45] <yggdrasil> like partition magic and stuff ?
[04:45] <satempler> yggdrasil: yes like partion magic but for gnome check in System > Admin
[04:45] <yggdrasil> awesome
[04:45] <yggdrasil> thanks
[04:45] <satempler> it will be on the boot cd
[04:45] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:45] <yggdrasil> ok cool
[04:45] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[04:45] <imsai> LjL: i will remove iscan, install epkowa from ubuntu instead
[04:45] <LjL> imsai: hm, i think you'd better try with the standard ubuntu stuff - which still has epkowa in it itself (it's in the libsane-extras package)
[04:46] <LjL> imsai: suggest a sudo apt-get --reinstall install libsane-extras
[04:46] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:46] <yggdrasil> i guesse ill kill this win part and the dell stuf
[04:46] <satempler> yggdrasil: you can also install it but I wouldn't mess with system partitions on a live file system
[04:46] <imsai> LjL: yeah, thx for the tip!
[04:46] <}btorch{> kind of amazes me that there is no chkconfig on ubuntu .... how can I tell what should be started up .. got create the rc links
[04:47] <yggdrasil> cool ill see what i can do with it. i dont have the live cd so might take me a while
[04:47] <wheels3572> satempler: you said it will be on the boot cd was that talking to me?
[04:47] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: are you still here?
[04:47] <satempler> wheels3572: no I was talking to yggdrasil
[04:47] <wheels3572> satempler:  ok sorry
[04:47] <satempler> np
[04:47] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: not for long, any luck?
[04:48] <Deanodriver> i've installed mozilla-acroread, but how do i get it loading in that, rather than loading up a separate acroread?
[04:49] <Deanodriver> shall i try uninstalling and reinstalling acroread again?
[04:49] <definity> is there a way to find out if i have the drivvers installed for something atall?
[04:49] <oezguer> hi
[04:50] <oezguer> help: i cant see wmv video at Vlc :(  any package codes?
[04:50] <ndlovu> can anyone tell me what the "user" option does in fstab?
[04:51] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  lets the user mount the drive,, or sets it owned by that specific user. check 'man fstab'
[04:51] <satempler> oezguer: you can add the PFL repos
[04:51] <satempler> !plf
[04:51] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[04:51] <oezguer> plf?how?
[04:51] <oezguer> thanx
[04:51] <JoNTYDoG> Hi all anyone got a skystar 2 pci card installed and running who can help a n00b?
[04:52] <satempler> np
[04:52] <ndlovu> thanks dr_willis. according to 'man fstab', it will allow the user to mount; do you know if there's some way to use this option together with a credentials file that only has root permissions?
[04:53] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  credentials file?
[04:53] <androide> hello, which is the root password on ubuntu livecd?
[04:53] <user-land> is there a way to see the transfer speed during copy ?
[04:53] <kindor> userland; no
[04:53] <kindor> userland: you could monitor the file it's writing
[04:54] <user-land> thanks, kandor.
[04:54] <yggdrasil> satempler that worked niceley
[04:54] <dr_willis> android there is none. you can go to the console and just do 'sudo -s'
[04:54] <dr_willis> android i think.
[04:54] <satempler> cool
[04:54] <ndlovu> dr_willis, sorry - the credentials file allows you to protect your username and password by saving it in a separate file that can only be read by root. That way an ordinary user couldn't read the /etc/fstab and know your access details.
[04:54] <Krhis> sudo -i :P
[04:54] <P1N3R> gatekeeper: no luck
[04:54] <P1N3R> we got into windows xp setup to do a fixmbr
[04:54] <yggdrasil> satempler at least the deleting of the partition and stuff
[04:54] <P1N3R> no luck
[04:54] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  im not that paranoid. :P
[04:54] <Deanodriver> shall i try just uninstalling/reinstalling mozilla-acroread?
[04:54] <satempler> cool
[04:54] <yggdrasil> and rebooting
[04:55] <yggdrasil> yea
[04:55] <yggdrasil> thnks
[04:55] <ndlovu> dr_willis, fair enough, I'm unfortunately trying to configure a multi-user environment so paranoia is sometimes necessary :P
[04:55] <gatekeeper> P1N3R: sorry to hear that probable need to talk to someone with experience in that department
[04:55] <johlin> I am going to reinstall Ubuntu as I want a fresh install. However, I have some files in my home directory I want to keep, can I just move them to a new folder on my home partition and then they will stay there during install? Also, I need to keep my Thunderbird and Firefox profiles, what is the easiest way to do that?
[04:55] <LowLevel> hi
[04:55] <dr_willis> ndlovu,   you could be gettting too paranoid. :)
[04:56] <Pecisk> hi guys, was there anything to run - command, parameter - when I have modified grub?
[04:56] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  this is the firse id ever heard of a credentials file - and ibve been using linux (as a hobbiest/home user) for years.
[04:57] <dr_willis> Pecisk,  you mean you altered the menu.lst in /boot/grub/ ?
[04:57] <ndlovu> dr_willis, so if you are mounting a windows share, you would put your username and password in /etc/fstab?
[04:57] <Pecisk> dr_willis: yep
[04:57] <i10neorg> johlin: Make not of the partition home has mounted (/dev/hda2 for example).  When you reinstall, manually set the partitions and mount points to reflect this.
[04:57] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  I cant recall ever needing to put the password in there for a windows share.  the user option - lets the 'user' use the mount command to mount the share.
[04:58] <i10neorg> johlin: For example, you'll see your /dev/hda2, just make sure it's set to mount under /home.
[04:58] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  It lets what ever user mounts it first.. to be abler to access it.. or theres the uid= and gid= option as well
[04:58] <i10neorg> johlin: YMMV!
[04:58] <ndlovu> dr_willis, hmm... lemme try that
[04:58] <dr_willis> ndlovu,  i think some more reading on mounting/fstab is in order. :P its a very very hmmm.. interesting area to learn about. :)
[04:58] <johlin> i10neorg: what is ymmv? anyway, yeah, I will mount in the same way but I don't know if it gets formatted as default as some mountpoints do.
[04:59] <i10neorg> johlin: Your Millage May Vary :^)
[04:59] <johlin> i10neorg: aah.
[04:59] <i10neorg> johlin: Yeah, I think it will tell you if it's going to reformat, so you should be safe.
[04:59] <yggdrasil> ext3 is like the best choice right ? for a fs ?
[05:00] <sexcopter8000m> when i get updates through update-manager, i still don't get anything under the changes tab, this has been mostly the case since dapper came out. what could be playing up?
[05:00] <JohnRobert> I prefer reiserfs
[05:00] <JohnRobert> it's faster
[05:00] <Wolfman-K> I have an xserver window up and a terminal window...  how do I load the gnome desktop?
[05:00] <yggdrasil> hmm
[05:00] <johlin> i10neorg: oh yeah, now I remember. I'll give it a shot then.
[05:00] <i10neorg> johlin: (in the manual partitioning anyway)
[05:00] <yggdrasil> johnrobert any downside to it?
[05:00] <johlin> i10neorg: of course
[05:00] <JohnRobert> some people think reiser isn't as 'stable' as ext3
[05:00] <mrcoyote> Yep all
[05:00] <yggdrasil> ahh, ill do 3 then ;)
[05:00] <JohnRobert> although in my experience it's as solid as any other fs
[05:01] <JohnRobert> I think the thing is, is that it used to be a bit unstable ages ago
[05:01] <JohnRobert> the fact it's bundled with your kernel says to me it's alright :p
[05:01] <dr_willis> JohnRobert,  from what ive seen.. people ask a Lot more about fixing their problems with reiserfs then the do with ext3.
[05:02] <Dagataka> ubotu wine
[05:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:02] <Krhis> I use reiserfs for my / and ext3 for my /home
[05:02] <dr_willis> and for most people they dont gain much by using reiser.
[05:02] <yggdrasil> well it wont format in either for some reason ;)
[05:02] <yggdrasil> haha
[05:02] <oezguer> satempler: i did it , but i cant see video wmv at vlc :(((
[05:02] <JohnRobert> dr_willis, could be they're using an older stock kernel which doesn't have reiser in it and therefore can't mount their root partition
[05:02] <Krhis> I've suggest keep using ext3 for senstive data. :P
[05:02] <JohnRobert> I noticed the diff...my hdd works a lot less with reiser
[05:03] <JohnRobert> (as in doing stuff, not as in 'doesnt work' :p)
[05:03] <oezguer> satempler: i did it , but i cant see video wmv at vlc :((( but with Mplayer, ok (quality is bad :(
[05:03] <Krhis> JohnRobert, reiserfs uses more CPU power to do less HDD writing.
[05:04] <tristanmike> Hi, I have a USB Logitech Rumblepad 2 Joystick, and a program is asking for the "Device" as in /dev/something, but I don't know where to look, can someone please give me a hand? thanx in advance :)
[05:04] <JohnRobert> I'm using a laptop, and I'm sure the hard disk uses more power than the cpu :p
[05:04] <Krhis> But I'd suggest using reiserfs if you have a large ammount of CPU power. Then you'll notice a diffrence.
[05:04] <_chaOS_> haha
[05:04] <Deanodriver> don't worry, i managed to fix it by searching on the forums, thanks
[05:04] <JohnRobert> besides, think about it, the hard disk is going to be a lot slower than the cpu, so total time taken to do a write is reduced
[05:04] <Krhis> Yep.
[05:04] <dr_willis> tristanmike,  /dev/input/js0 normally - if the modules are loaded right
[05:04] <LjL> tristanmike: /dev/input/js0 possibly
[05:05] <JohnRobert> hell, it works for me :p
[05:05] <oezguer> anybody can help me to see wmv at Vlc ???
[05:05] <tristanmike> ahh, "input" is what I think I may have been missing, thank you very much dr_willis and LjL :)
[05:05] <Krhis> Reiser4 is a little too new for me, I'll wait until it's bundled with vinilla kernel.
[05:05] <JohnRobert> why do people even use vlc?
[05:05] <dr_willis> oezguer,  ive found many wmv's that nothing under linux can play
[05:05] <dr_willis> I use vlc all the time.
[05:05] <JohnRobert> mplayer/totem/xine are blatantly the best
[05:05] <ajeeb150> I posted a question on the "install forums" and got no reply... can some help me here?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217799
[05:05] <dr_willis> I find vlc the best for my needs. :)
[05:05] <tristanmike> dr_willis, LjL, that was it, thanx again =)
[05:05] <oggis> ext3 with writeback journal is really a lot faster in my personal experience than reiser3.
[05:06] <Krhis> Some don't like having a window for the controls and one for the video. I personally use a mixture of Xine and mPlayer.
[05:06] <oezguer> dr_willis: it means u cant play wmv at Vlc?  but i can watch wmv`s at Mplayer, but quality is bad :(
[05:06] <ajeeb150> Basically: is there away to install through telnet or VNC as with Fedora? also, si there a way to remote syslog during the install?
[05:06] <oggis> and johnrober, hdd uses lot lesd
[05:06] <Krhis> oggis, what do you loose with writeback? Harder to recover?
[05:06] <oggis> power than the cpu
[05:06] <dr_willis> oezguer,  SOME wmv's i have found. are not playabble.. others are. - it depends on the codec used in the wmv
[05:07] <oggis> sorry for the typos, im typing on a touchscreen
[05:07] <oezguer> dr_willis: but i cant play it at Vlc..   1 weeks ago i could, but i installed dapper again, and now no more:(
[05:07] <johlin> How can I backup my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles?
[05:07] <oezguer> dr_willis: but i could it same wmv video 2 weeks ago, it was wonderful, but now nooo :(
[05:07] <dr_willis> oezguer,  sounds like a codec issue then
[05:07] <oggis> krhis: yep (slower to recover that is)
[05:08] <oezguer> yess
[05:08] <sri_> can any one tell about the diff between tar,tar.gz,tar.bz2
[05:08] <oezguer> dr_willis: which code do i need? can u give me some codes, i install a lot ofs
[05:09] <ajeeb150> sri_: tar is an archive of a lot of files a dirs.... when that file is gzipped ist a tar.gz or .tgz  when bzip2'ed it s called tar.bz2 .. just names...
[05:09] <MarcN> sri_: tar == (tape) archive, ie bunch of files.  tar.gz == compressed version using gzip, tar.bz2 == compressed with a different (better compressing, slower running) bzip2
[05:09] <i10neorg> sri_: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive_formats>
[05:10] <oezguer> dr_willis: or do i have to restart pc?
[05:10] <sri_> MarcN, thak u
[05:10] <sri_> ajeeb150, thank u
[05:12] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen just after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[05:12] <dr_willis> oezguer,  i tend to get the latest w32codec packages from the mplayer homepage.
[05:12] <oezguer> oki
[05:12] <dr_willis> oezguer,  and you dont need to reboot just for codecs - thats 'windows mentality' :)
[05:13] <oezguer> oki:)))))))))))
[05:13] <Lord_Athur> I was trying to validate my OpenPGP key, the launchpad page says that I'd have to descrypt a msn with my key in order to validate, how do I do it?
[05:14] <Cntryboy> how do you totally remove a program and all the contents of it? I've tried sudo dpkg --remove (file.deb) and then reinstalled it and it still has my options saved.. I want a fresh install because of bugs in preference of setting it up.
[05:14] <Seveas> Cntryboy, --purge instead of --remove
[05:14] <LjL> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename, or sudo aptitude purge packagename
[05:14] <Cntryboy> kk thx gang
[05:15] <LjL> Cntryboy: and the config files in your home dir will remain there anyway. gotta remove them manually
[05:15] <yggdrasil> i have 2 swap partitions, how do i disable one, i want to delete it
[05:15] <facugaich> and the programs compiled by you? those are just scattered files, you can never totally uninstall them?
[05:15] <facugaich> yggdrasil: gparted
[05:15] <Shak-> is it possible to create 'profiles' to use with iwconfig? e.g. if I go to mode monitor I lose my current network settings, then have to go back to mode managed and enter them all manually again
[05:15] <yggdrasil> hah ok
[05:16] <facugaich> yggdrasil: wait
[05:16] <yggdrasil> i just did it with cfdisk
[05:17] <facugaich> yggdrasil: you can disable partition through System -> Administrative (or something like that, second row) ->Drives or Hard Drives. I don't have ubuntu in english
[05:17] <yggdrasil> hm.. ahh its cool i just did it in cfdisk and then it took care of itself
[05:17] <yggdrasil> thanks
[05:18] <facugaich> yggdrasil: that just disabled, gparted to erase
[05:18] <yggdrasil> ok
[05:18] <Cntryboy> LjL: Now i'm trying to install it again by sudo dkpg --install file.deb and it's giving me errors now ?
[05:19] <bignath> Can anyone give me a little help I downloaded Ubuntu last night installed it but the only thing I cant get is an Internet connection. When I plug into the company ethernet it seems to be communicating and I can get network information but no Internet access. Help Please!!
[05:19] <JoNTYDoG> can anyone help with a skystar 2 dvb card?
[05:19] <LjL> Cntryboy: why are you using dpkg manually?
[05:20] <rsk> bignath, do you have wlan or 2 ethernet cards?
[05:20] <bignath> Wlan and 1 ethernet
[05:20] <Cntryboy> LjL: well I tried to run it from desktop icon of the .deb also, it installed but it still has my saved preferences
[05:20] <MarcN> bignath: corporate firewall problem?  Can you ping local hosts?
[05:20] <LjL> Cntryboy: what package is it? isn't it in the repositories?
[05:21] <Cntryboy> ljl: xvidcap
[05:21] <Cntryboy> no I downloaded the .deb manually on desktop
[05:21] <imsai> LjL: there is no 'modules.conf' in ubuntu ? is it /etc/modules i should edit in this case ?
[05:21] <LjL> Cntryboy: try using gdebi
[05:21] <Cntryboy> ljl: care to give me example please
[05:21] <_marshall> hey guys
[05:21] <_marshall> any ekiga users here?
[05:21] <bignath> I am not sure. I can get the local machines up on the network connection screen
[05:22] <LjL> imsai: know what, i don't really know. i've got most of my hardware of my debian box, and i've almost never manually touched modules and such on ubuntu
[05:22] <LjL> Cntryboy: install the "gdebi" package, and use "gdebi" to install that .deb file
[05:22] <bignath> but the data comes through very slow
[05:22] <jpjacobs> _marshall, made an account , never used it though
[05:22] <imsai> LjL: okey! yhx
[05:22] <Cntryboy> what does gdebi do?
[05:22] <imsai> LjL: thx ! ;)
[05:23] <bignath> When I plug in with windows I have no prob but I really want to get a version of linux working
[05:23] <P1N3R> is Ubuntu live cd supposed to detect windows xp is there?
[05:24] <P1N3R> when i install
[05:24] <LjL> P1N3R: yeah
[05:24] <rsk> P1N3R, yeah at least the partition
[05:24] <P1N3R> well
[05:24] <Cntryboy> ljl: back stupid dialup
[05:24] <P1N3R> it detects the partition
[05:24] <LjL> Cntryboy: gdebi installs while considering dependencies too, so you should not get dependency errors
[05:24] <P1N3R> but it doesnt load grub
[05:24] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:24] <P1N3R> it just boots straight into Windowd
[05:24] <P1N3R> it just boots straight into Windows
[05:24] <LjL> Cntryboy: besides, i see that xvidcap is a screen recorder program. perhaps you could consider using istanbul? (apt-cache show istanbul)
[05:24] <Cntryboy> ljl: anyways it was working okay last night, but I tried changing frames/sec and thats when it got buggy, so i'm wanting to totally reinstall it, but I want fresh default install not where it loads my settings.
[05:25] <Cntryboy> ljl: istanbul totally suxorz
[05:25] <Cntryboy> :( ive tried it yesterday
[05:25] <amarokker> Is there any applet for gnome-panel that allows you to see the time world timezones? I think there's one for kde.
[05:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: if the settings are saved to your home dir, your only option is removing them manually
[05:25] <LjL> Cntryboy: if they are in /etc, the purge will remove them
[05:26] <Cntryboy> well I check in home dir under .xvidcap
[05:26] <Cntryboy> nothing was in there
[05:26] <billybennett> Do I need special software to burn dual layer?
[05:26] <rsk> billybennett, yeah software that can do that, for ex nerolinux or k3b
[05:26] <LjL> Cntryboy: "strace -e trace=open xvidcap", see what files it tries to load at startup
[05:27] <billybennett> sweet thanks rsk
[05:27] <P1N3R> is there any way i can make it see windows xp is there
[05:27] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:27] <P1N3R> so it loads into Ubuntu?
[05:27] <[1] astro> i have an ubuntu 6.06 system at my office.  someone set a root password and forgot it.  i tried going in single-user via grub, but runlevel 1 is prompting me for the root password.  is there a way to reset it without mounting the drive from an external source?
[05:27] <Cntryboy> ljl: after I install it try strace?
[05:27] <LjL> P1N3R: wait, you mean the *live cd* boots into windows, or after *installing* linux on the HD from the live cd it boots into windows?
[05:28] <LjL> Cntryboy: yeah
[05:28] <LjL> Cntryboy: so you can see where it's taking its config files from
[05:28] <iridium> Ubunu 6.06, booting from livecd. partitioning disks, installing. Rebooting, partitioned disks not found when booting from the hard-drive. Livecd can't find them either. fdisk lists the partitions correctly, however ls /dev/sd* only lists /dev/sda (not /dev/sda1, the partition I made).
[05:28] <P1N3R> LjL
[05:28] <P1N3R> LjL: yes it does that
[05:28] <P1N3R> after installing on HDS
[05:28] <P1N3R> HD
[05:28] <ScislaC> is there a trick to get drives to mount from dapper when it's live? I need to modify my xorg.conf on my install (my default res isn't supported by this monitor), but it won't let me mount the drive I need from the live cd.
[05:28] <iridium> As such, I can't mount /dev/sda1. If, however, I run gparted and reformat, the disk works fine
[05:28] <LjL> !tell P1N3R about grub
[05:29] <iridium> until I reboot, at which point it doesn't work again
[05:29] <P1N3R> LjL: i cant get any of those working
[05:29] <Cntryboy> ljl: thats a hugeeeee list lol
[05:29] <LjL> P1N3R: can you boot into your installed Ubuntu from the live cd?
[05:29] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:30] <P1N3R> i didnt even know i could do it
[05:30] <LjL> Cntryboy: yeah well, take some guesses. files that are called "somethingrc", or "something.conf", etc are probably config files
[05:30] <bignath> Anyone know how to use Nokia 6680 to connect via USB to the net?
[05:30] <Cntryboy> k
[05:30] <LjL> P1N3R: there is an option to boot from HD in the Live CD boot menu. it'll probably still boot into windows though
[05:30] <LjL> P1N3R: otherwise you can tell the live cd to boot into linux by typing kernel parameters
[05:30] <Bartsk8> I've correctly installed fglrx but mesa3d il always here when I have a fglrxinfo... can sbd help me ?
[05:31] <P1N3R> yes it does LjL
[05:31] <LjL> P1N3R: i dont quite remember the syntax tho
[05:31] <sproingie> Bartsk8: i didn't understand your question
[05:31] <[1] astro> i have an ubuntu 6.06 system at my office.  someone set a root password and forgot it.  i tried going in single-user via grub, but runlevel 1 is prompting me for the root password.  is there a way to reset it without mounting the drive from an external source?
[05:31] <LjL> P1N3R: or, from the live cd, mount your linux partition somewhere (let's say it's in /mnt/linuxpartition), then try "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/linuxpartition /dev/hda", assuming your HD is called /dev/hda
[05:31] <Cntryboy> ljl: if I pasted this on pastbin u think u could make heads or tails of it?
[05:31] <LjL> Cntryboy: perhaps
[05:32] <stefg> [1] astro: you could try to boot from live-CD, get a root shell there, mount the system and chroot into it. thenn passwd root will let you set a new one
[05:32] <P1N3R> it wont allow me to mount it on the live cd LjL
[05:32] <tristanmike> anyone have any experience with the ePSXe ?
[05:32] <LjL> P1N3R: oh? like what kind of errors?
[05:32] <Bartsk8> I'm french... Huum. i've installed the drivers fglrx for radeon, but 3d acceleration is not enabled. and when i have a fglrx info in a prompt it says me about mesa3d instead of ati
[05:32] <Skaag> what's that?
[05:32] <_marshall> does anybody know about mounting ntfs drives?
[05:32] <iridium> did anyone manage to read my problem or did it disappear into the aether?
[05:32] <LjL> !tell _marshall about ntfs
[05:32] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:32] <facugaich> tristanmike: it's a pain to get it working
[05:32] <Tomatix> which libraries do I need to build a Qt application?
[05:32] <P1N3R> it says 'cannot mount'
[05:32] <LjL> Tomatix: libqt3-mt-dev
[05:33] <_marshall> LjL: thanks mang
[05:33] <Skaag> tristanmike: what's ePSXe?
[05:33] <_marshall> are there any ekiga users here?
[05:33] <tristanmike> facugaich: I've got it working, more or less, some minor things are going on
[05:33] <sproingie> Bartsk8: your english is certainly better than my french.  that's ok, you should see mesa3d.  what does it say when you do glxinfo | grep direct
[05:33] <facugaich> tristanmike: wait, ePSXe == PSxEmulator right?
[05:33] <tristanmike> Skaag: it's a Playstaion emulator
[05:33] <Skaag> nice
[05:33] <dr_willis> ePSXe - playstation 1 emulator.
[05:33] <Cntryboy> ljl: http://pastebin.ca/91360 if ya don't mind
[05:33] <dr_willis> it works very well last i used it.
[05:33] <_marshall> Skaag: its a playstation 1 emulator
[05:33] <Skaag> sounds nice
[05:33] <stefg> [1] astro: the more dangerous option 2 would be to boot from CD, mount the locked system and delete the line starting with 'root' from /etc/shadow
[05:33] <NthDegree> PSx Means Playstation 1 and 2
[05:33] <LjL> P1N3R: err you aren't trying to mount /dev/hda right? you've got to mount the correct partition, like say /dev/hda2
[05:33] <troozers> anyone an expert on smb mounting with autofs, as google is not helping much :(
[05:34] <tristanmike> dr_willis: it works nice here, but when I exit, I loose control of the terminal and sometime it locks my system up completely
[05:34] <_marshall> NthDegree: you mena it will do ps2 too?
[05:34] <Hoovey> PS2 = lam0r
[05:34] <tristanmike> _marshall: no, psx only
[05:34] <NthDegree> PSX means 1 and 2
[05:34] <stefg> !offtopic
[05:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:34] <carthik_> If I set an expiration date on my gpg key - will I be able to renew the key later, or will I hae to create a new key later?
[05:34] <iridium> okay, since I got no response, I'm going to guess it disappeared into the aether.
[05:34] <m1ckeyknox> okay... I see theat there is a package for phpmyadmin for ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/web/phpmyadmin ... how do I install that... apt-get install ? I can't seem to find it with apt-cache search
[05:34] <P1N3R> LjL, as far as i know, i am mounting the '/' partition
[05:34] <tristanmike> NthDegree: no, it means PS1
[05:34] <iridium> Is there a good place to get help where my message might be heard?
[05:34] <IseeIsee> earlier I downloaded the bin file of jdk, and now I just installed it through the terminal. where is it installed ? how can I access it ?
[05:34] <facugaich> NthDegree: aren't PsXs the ones that are smaller?
[05:35] <_marshall> tristanmike: NthDegree: yeah im pretty sure psx means ps1
[05:35] <LjL> P1N3R: then i suppose something went seriously wrong, if you cannot mount the root partition
[05:35] <tristanmike> they started to market as the PSX when the released the mini one
[05:35] <P1N3R> i live?
[05:35] <P1N3R> in
[05:35] <dr_willis> IseeIsee,  try 'java --version'
[05:35] <P1N3R> i will try again
[05:35] <rowanjl> I need to check that a lib was installed, everything says it is, but I'm trying to build a program that needs it and configure can't find it... how can I find it, if it is actually installed?
[05:35] <_marshall> facugaich: ps ones are the small psxs
[05:35] <P1N3R> thanks for the help :)
[05:35] <stefg> NthDegree, _marshall , would it be asked too much to tkae that to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[05:35] <sproingie> rowanjl: ldconfig | grep libname
[05:35] <LjL> Cntryboy: what about /home/cd/.xvidcaprc ?
[05:35] <NthDegree> PSX refers to the games that run on both consoles now lets go to ubuntu-offtopic :)
[05:35] <facugaich> NthDegree: _marshall: tristanmike: k, enough off-topic me thinks ;)
[05:36] <Cntryboy> thats where i'm trying to get now, I have to enable compiz because xgl pause lags me
[05:36] <Cntryboy> js
[05:36] <_marshall> stefg: lol no, we're done
[05:36] <rowanjl> sproingie: if I get no output, thats bad right?
[05:36] <user-land> can i change partition labels with fdisk ?
[05:36] <tristanmike> I was off at my last comment facugaich, and anyway, I want support darnnit ! :P, just kidding
[05:36] <jazzanova> hi
[05:36] <sproingie> rowanjl: means that library isn't on your standard library path
[05:36] <Bartsk8> sproingie => Check your PVs
[05:36] <jazzanova> i have gam_server eating up cpu
[05:36] <jazzanova> 99%
[05:36] <sproingie> rowanjl: you could try locate libname
[05:36] <jazzanova> what can i do ?
[05:36] <rowanjl> ok
[05:36] <Alex0r> If I just make a new partition with ubuntu's partitioner, will it erase any data on my C:\ partition?
[05:36] <_marshall> so are there any ekiga users int he house?
[05:37] <Skaag> remind me what ekiga is?
[05:37] <Skaag> that powerpoint clone?
[05:37] <sproingie> Skaag: voip thing
[05:37] <LjL> Alex0r: not if you tell it not to when asked by the installer
[05:37] <Skaag> ah
[05:37] <jbroome> Skaag: gnomemeeting with a new name
[05:37] <Skaag> sounds cool, installing
[05:37] <LoneShadow> sip video ?
[05:37] <Alex0r> Er, that makes no sence
[05:37] <Alex0r> So
[05:37] <sproingie> jbroome: gnomemeeting was too obvious
[05:37] <tristanmike> Skaag: it's in the default installation of Dapper
[05:37] <Alex0r> It wont touch my C:\ drive
[05:37] <Cntryboy> ljl: deleted that let me c now
[05:37] <Alex0r> Partition*
[05:37] <rowanjl> sproingie: everything that turned up was in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ or /usr/share/doc/
[05:37] <m1ckeyknox> okay... I see theat there is a package for phpmyadmin for ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/web/phpmyadmin ... how do I install that... apt-get install ? I can't seem to find it with apt-cache search
[05:37] <rowanjl> I guess that means its not installed correctly or something
[05:38] <sproingie> jbroome: i'm thinking of renaming my "message viewer" app to "krupugla".
[05:38] <LjL> !info phpmyadmin
[05:38] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In repository universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[05:38] <LjL> m1ckeyknox: you need to enable universe
[05:38] <LjL> !tell m1ckeyknox about universe
[05:38] <Zenobia> Could someone please help me setting up my wireless? I got a Cayman 3347w router and my card is recognised, I just can't find the right settings. Thanks a lot in advance
[05:38] <sproingie> rowanjl: sounds like it's not installed.  try reinstalling the library if you know you installed it
[05:38] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah it has video
[05:38] <rowanjl> sproingie: already done that :/
[05:39] <LoneShadow> I will be installing some sip video app soon :D
[05:39] <sproingie> rowanjl: to make things easier here, what's the library you're looking for?
[05:39] <rowanjl> libdevil
[05:39] <LoneShadow> _marshall: so are you using ekiga ?
[05:39] <IseeIsee> dr_willis: I typed java --vesion and it says java version 1.4.2 but I installed java 5 update 7
[05:39] <m1ckeyknox> LjL: how do I enable universe?
[05:39] <IseeIsee> also where has it installed it, I want to know the directory
[05:39] <LoneShadow> !apt
[05:39] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:39] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah i want to try it out
[05:39] <NthDegree> mickeyknox on synaptic
[05:40] <sproingie> rowanjl: what's dpkg -l | grep devil show you?
[05:40] <trappist> IseeIsee: one is the version of the language, and one is the version of the jvm
[05:40] <kilai> I've been wanting to install linux for years but never really bothered, I tried the Ubuntu live cd the other day and Now I'm definatly gonna install it
[05:40] <IseeIsee> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[05:40] <kilai> when I boot off the live cd and click the installation button on the desktop, where will it install linux to? I have a 200gb hd with several partitions
[05:40] <NthDegree> it's on one of the menus, it's called repositories
[05:40] <facugaich> kilai: congrats
[05:40] <Zenobia> mickey : uncomment the universe lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Delete the # signs
[05:40] <IseeIsee> sorry wrong
[05:40] <IseeIsee> java version "1.4.2"
[05:40] <IseeIsee> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[05:40] <amarokker> Peopl, can i get some help here? i've been searching through gnomefiles.org - cant find an applet that will allow me to see multiple time zones- preferably a graphical applet instead of a textual one
[05:40] <NthDegree> kilai, it will load an installer and you can choose I believe
[05:40] <Bartsk8> sproingie => Check your PVs
[05:40] <Cntryboy> ljl: I still get You selected an unknown or invalid file format for multi-frame capture. Check the --format-help option." and i'm not even changing anything lol, just when I look in preferences
[05:40] <LoneShadow> _marshall: I am building an embedded system with ubuntu breezy, will be adding some video conferencing app, hopefully sip one
[05:41] <rowanjl> sproingie: ii  libdevil-dev and ii  libdevil1c2
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: cool. ekiga looks pretty solid
[05:41] <facugaich> kilai: is will ask for an  empty existing partition, to shrink and used one, or you can manually edit the partition table
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: i jsut havent made any calls because i dont know anybody with sip
[05:41] <stinkball> has anyone gotten tuxguardian to compile and work on ubuntu?
[05:41] <LoneShadow> finally got my whole system as a read only fs, was a little pain to figure out making /var and /dev as rw
[05:41] <_marshall> LoneShadow: why breezy? what kind of embedded system?
[05:42] <Zenobia> Could someone please help me setting up my wireless? I got a Cayman 3347w router and my card is recognised, I just can't find the right settings. Thanks a lot in advance
[05:42] <LoneShadow> using msntv box, yes MSN :P, but the intel video driver is meant for 6.8 Xorg
[05:42] <LoneShadow> need to try if it works 7.0 Xorg
[05:42] <LoneShadow> on*
[05:42] <_marshall> LoneShadow: lol
[05:42] <IseeIsee> dr_willis: I posted above
[05:43] <Skaag> ok I have Ekiga installed
[05:43] <_marshall> LoneShadow: call me on my sip, i wanna see if it works
[05:43] <hmrocha> hello
[05:43] <Skaag> what's the difference between V4L and V4L2?
[05:43] <LoneShadow> hmm
[05:43] <hmrocha> how can i delete an entry in gconf-editor?
[05:43] <LoneShadow> using ekiga ?
[05:43] <hmrocha> i want to delete apps/evolution
[05:43] <_marshall> Skaag: i dont know
[05:43] <hmrocha> but i can't! :(
[05:43] <Wodger> seems to be depedecncys
[05:43] <_marshall> LoneShadow: yeah
[05:43] <LoneShadow> not gonna happen soon :D
[05:44] <facugaich> hmrocha: did you try synaptic?
[05:44] <wheels351972> I am having a ton of problems can someone help me on the side please?
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: i don't want to delete evolution
[05:44] <_marshall> LoneShadow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i think should do the trick
[05:44] <LoneShadow> I still need to get the video driver for Logitech Quickam 4000 pro working, and have to see if the webcam' Mike would work
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: i just want to delete the configurations
[05:44] <Skaag> LoneShadow: My Quickcam Pro 4000 works ok with ekiga
[05:44] <_marshall> LoneShadow: ok
[05:44] <hmrocha> facugaich: evolution stores the configurations in apps/evolution entry in gconf
[05:44] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Looks good
[05:45] <facugaich> hmrocha: purge it and then re-install?
[05:45] <_marshall> Skaag: give me a call skaag
[05:45] <Skaag> give me your sip URL
[05:45] <LoneShadow> Skaag: can you tell me which module is being used for your quickcam pro 4k ?
[05:45] <_marshall> Skaag<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:45] <rowanjl> sproingie: thats what I should see right?
[05:45] <Skaag> ok sec
[05:45] <LoneShadow> I have a base system, installed only packages I needed
[05:45] <_marshall> LoneShadow: o
[05:45] <hmrocha> facugaich: that's stupid, each user should delete his configurations
[05:46] <Fracture> anyone here use reiserfs 4 ?
[05:46] <hmrocha> facugaich: he may not even have permissions to delete the program
[05:46] <zF> I have a general Linux question, but use Ubuntu - what program can I use to screen capture a .gif from a .avi video file?
[05:46] <wheels351972> How do I get my name back on IRC here it's saying it's in use
[05:46] <hmrocha> facugaich: uninstall the program i mean
[05:47] <facugaich> hmrocha: well, then I don't know, sry
[05:47] <LoneShadow> zF search for screen capture programs for linux on google, you will your answer
[05:47] <m1ckeyknox> Zenobia: thanks.
[05:47] <LoneShadow> most used packages are available for ubuntu
[05:47] <facugaich> wheels351972: is your nick registered?
[05:47] <wheels351972> Yes
[05:47] <Zenobia> m1ckeyknox : no problem :)
[05:47] <wheels351972> facugaich yes it is
[05:47] <Wodger> probably a ghost
[05:47] <v33> hi, I just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my thinkpad t21 but x won't load... It worked fine out of the box with ubuntu 5.10
[05:47] <Wodger> kill the ghost
[05:47] <v33> Is there any known changes or problems with x.org?
[05:48] <wheels351972> WodgerHow?
[05:48] <gdb> !ghost
[05:48] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:48] <Skaag> _marshall: You see my chat window?
[05:48] <facugaich> wheels351972: /msg nickserv RECOVER
[05:48] <[1] astro> ok where is the LIVE CD?
[05:48] <IseeIsee> I downloaded the JDK  as bin file from sun website and installed it using terimal by just doing sudo ./filename.bin   now I wanna know where is it installed, I did java -version but it still shows the old version
[05:48] <johlin> I'm going to reinstall now but leave my home partion with my files, should I keep the folder the same name and then when I've reinstalled just create a user with that name and then everything'll work out, or should I rename the folder to something else and then move them to my home directory?
[05:48] <gdb> !ghost > wheels351972
[05:48] <[1] astro> i just see desktop, server, and alternate
[05:48] <_marshall> Skaag: yeah, but every time i type something it says error: user not found
[05:48] <Wodger> ubuntu live cd is the desktop
[05:48] <facugaich> wheels351972: /msg nickserv RECOVER <nick> <pass>
[05:48] <_marshall> Skaag: can you hear me?
[05:49] <[1] astro> how do i boot it into 'live mode'?
[05:49] <Skaag> ah sorry, I need to approve my account, sec.
[05:49] <Skaag> I need to close and open ekiga, brb
[05:49] <[1] astro> i only see options for regular installations
[05:49] <_marshall> Skaag: ok
[05:49] <[1] astro> asks me for hostname, partitioning, etc
[05:49] <void^> zF: use mplayer with option -vf screenshot (and press s anytime)
[05:49] <Wodger> make4 sure cd is before harddrive in boot order
[05:49] <maintenance> hi all
[05:49] <[1] astro> it is booting off of the cdrom
[05:49] <LoneShadow> Skaag: any idea which module is being used for your webcam ?
[05:49] <[1] astro> my options are install, lamp, rescue, boot from hdd, etc
[05:49] <skavenge> [1] astro: on the dapper cd, it asks, 'boot livecd and/or install' .. you have to load the livecd to install at all
[05:49] <moonstone> i need help about recording with sblive
[05:49] <IseeIsee> java version "1.4.2"
[05:49] <IseeIsee> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[05:49] <Skaag> LoneShadow: checking
[05:49] <_marshall> does anybody know if skype uses SIP?
[05:49] <LoneShadow> ok :)
[05:50] <Wodger> then it should just boot into the live
[05:50] <IseeIsee> I downloaded the JDK  as bin file from sun website and installed it using terimal by just doing sudo ./filename.bin   now I wanna know where is it installed, I did java -version but it still shows the old version
[05:50] <wheels3572> Thanks that worked I got myname back :) now for my Mess of issues
[05:50] <LoneShadow> _marshall: proprierty sip
[05:50] <carlos> _marshall: no, it doesn't
[05:50] <[1] astro> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso doesn't have a livecd option, at least on my system
[05:50] <ironfroggy> i tried a 'apt-cdrom add' and now a bunch of packages are no long available. what can i do to remedy this situation?
[05:50] <[1] astro> this is bizarre
[05:50] <_marshall> LoneShadow: so i couldnt use that sip account with anything but skype?
[05:50] <void^> !java > IseeIsee
[05:50] <gdb> IseeIsee: Because you failed to read any documentation whatsoever, including the stuff the Java JDK installer prints for you and forces you to say "yes" to during the installation.
[05:50] <stefg> [1] astro: how much ram does the box have?
[05:50] <Cntryboy> ehh xvidcap suxorz also
[05:50] <wheels3572> I wanna test out a theory I wanna delete my Windows I have on the system how do I go about doing this as my backup drive is now my C: lol and my Windows drive which I am currently on is my F:
[05:50] <LoneShadow> yes, works only from skype to skype
[05:50] <[1] astro> 256MB
[05:50] <tristanmike> Is there anyway to mount or convert a "*.ccd" file ?
[05:51] <sri_> ironfroggy, what is u r prob
[05:51] <Cntryboy> anyone know of a GOOOOD working video capture program for linux?
[05:51] <skavenge> [1] astro: right at the grub menu, it asks, 'boot livecd/install' i just used the desktop one i know its there, first option on the menu
[05:51] <gdb> IseeIsee: Type "ls" at the prompt and be enlightened.
[05:51] <rsk> Cntryboy, xvidcap
[05:51] <tristanmike> Cntryboy: xvidcap is nice
[05:51] <ironfroggy> sri_: what?
[05:51] <void^> tristanmike: ccd2iso, probably not in repos though
[05:51] <[1] astro> this must have been a server iso
[05:51] <LoneShadow> they will getting the jabber module soon, you should be able to talk to googletalk, I think they already got msn messenger working
[05:51] <Cntryboy> xvidcap gives me unexpected closings and prefer errors
[05:51] <[1] astro> that's the only thing i can think of
[05:51] <rowanjl> Cntryboy: the Gimp
[05:51] <facugaich> wheels3572: erase the partition?
[05:51] <tristanmike> void^: you da man (or woman :P)!
[05:51] <Cntryboy> not nice to me lol
[05:51] <Cntryboy> gimp I thought was paint program
[05:51] <wheels3572> facugaich Yes thats'w hat I wanna do cuz I CANT install Ubuntu
[05:51] <stefg> [1] astro: just boot it... the 'desktop'-Cd means it'll boot up a live CD (which is used then for installing)
[05:51] <skavenge> [1] astro: if it is then your right there wouldnt be a livecd option
[05:51] <wheels3572> it freezes EVERY time
[05:52] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok I did ls so what ?
[05:52] <facugaich> wheels3572: the you could use gparted from the Live CD
[05:52] <skavenge> or its the alternate which doesnt have livecd on it either
[05:52] <rowanjl> Cntryboy: it is, but its good for taking screenshots, but not video
[05:52] <Skaag> ok marshall you ready?
[05:52] <m1ckeyknox> Zenobia: k... after uncommenting... what next?
[05:52] <_marshall> Skaag: yeah, ill call you this time
[05:52] <facugaich> wheels3572: I guess it can erase a partition even if its NTFS
[05:52] <gdb> IseeIsee: Read what was printed on the screen.
[05:52] <_marshall> Skaag: its<EMAIL_ADDRESS>right?
[05:52] <Skaag> yes
[05:53] <wheels3572> facugaich:  How do I access the gpart from the live partition?
[05:53] <_marshall> it says ur offline
[05:53] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I think the module is pwc
[05:53] <wheels3572> facugaich: I mean the live CD
[05:53] <LoneShadow> ok
[05:53] <facugaich> wheels3572: Live CD you mean? it should bt in Applications
[05:53] <IseeIsee> ok fine: no one reads that crap
[05:53] <LoneShadow> installing pwc now :D
[05:53] <LoneShadow> brb
[05:53] <IseeIsee> gdb: whats the solution if you have answer to my question
[05:53] <_marshall> Skaag: it says ur offline
[05:54] <benny_> hello :)
[05:54] <benny_> it's me again
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: What do you think is in the new directory there called jdk1.5.0_07 ?
[05:54] <benny_> I've got a problem with fglrx :(
[05:54] <IseeIsee> gdb: damit thats what I'm asking where is this new directory ?
[05:54] <wheels3572> facugaich: Well I have an issue with that too I cant get into Linux with the live cd it wont let me boot to it
[05:54] <Skaag> _marshall: try now please, I was offline indeed
[05:54] <LoneShadow> Skaag: can you do "dpkg -l|grep pwc"
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: It's created in the directory as the .bin file you ran to extract it.
[05:54] <gdb> IseeIsee: hence running "ls" to see it.
[05:55] <Cntryboy> yah I want something for video, I've tried instanbul and xvidcap both doesn't work worth a hoot for me.
[05:55] <gdb> same directory as*
[05:55] <IseeIsee> gdb: that is insane, in windows it asks you where to install it
[05:55] <gdb> IseeIsee: How is it insane?
[05:55] <facugaich> wheels3572: mmm, I guess you could try to fix that problem or find another way of erasing partitions
[05:55] <definity> how do i change the transmitting power of my wireless card
[05:55] <definity> is there a way?
[05:55] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Did it, no results
[05:55] <LoneShadow> ok
[05:55] <m1ckeyknox> how do I install packages from universe?
[05:55] <LoneShadow> so the kernel is patched
[05:55] <skavenge> in linux it gets installed where it knows it needs to go, its no 'install wizard'
[05:56] <benny_> si there a xorg error reference ??
[05:56] <gdb> IseeIsee: Anyway, if you'd like to "properly" install it, move that jdk directory to /opt or /usr/local (I prefer /opt) and set up appropriate symlinks / PATH variables.
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: lol
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: wicked
[05:56] <Skaag> _marshall: Amazingly, it works real fine!
[05:56] <skavenge> m1ckeyknox: enable the universe repository, see ubotu's link ->
[05:56] <skavenge> !universe
[05:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:56] <Cntryboy> m1ckeyknox: from knoxville?
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: how was the audio for you?
[05:56] <Skaag> I'm also amazed at how Ubuntu just found my logitech USB headset!
[05:56] <wheels3572> facugaich:  How can I go about installing from Live CD any ideas.  I am sooooo frustrated with it right now.  Any sure way of installing without errors?
[05:56] <_marshall> Skaag: lol yeah
[05:56] <IseeIsee> gdb: is there a tutorial on that on the web, I could'nt find any
[05:56] <slavezero> i am having a problem with the networking on my demo machine all of the sudden it was working and now it will not gain an ip from the server nor will it ping when given on. i have reinstalled the OS and problem still there. i think it may have soemthing to with ipv6 my server is not setup to do anything with ipv6. is it possible to remove it from ubuntu?
[05:56] <m1ckeyknox> Cntryboy: nope
[05:56] <Skaag> the audio was ok albeit a tad bit low but that could be volume settings on my side for my headset
[05:56] <gdb> IseeIsee: If you don't mind enabling Universe and Multiverse, you can install the Sun JDK out of Ubuntu repositories, also.
[05:57] <ironfroggy> please, doesnt anyone know how _adding_ a repository could cause me to loose available packages?
[05:57] <m1ckeyknox> ubotu: I have it uncommented in sources.list... now what?
[05:57] <facugaich> wheels3572: you don't need to install, you just boot it, the live CD. There you can use Gparted
[05:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about I have it uncommented in sources.list... now what? - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:57] <ironfroggy> it doesnt make sense :-(
[05:57] <skavenge> wheels3572: if your having trouble booting the live cd you might try the alternate cd with text install
[05:57] <skavenge> ironfroggy: impossible
[05:57] <IseeIsee> gdb: I did enable the multiuniverse and then rant the bin file
[05:57] <Skaag> LoneShadow: what version of ubuntu are you running that your QCPro4000 isn't detected automatically? I didn't have to do anything for mine to work...
[05:57] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it happened!
[05:57] <gdb> IseeIsee: For installing the JDK from Sun's site?  I don't believe there is other than the documentation on the page it downloads from.
[05:57] <stefg> m1ckeyknox: once the universe repos is in your /etc/apt/sources.list and you did 'sudo apt-get update' then thy are available by apt-get and all the frontends to it like synaptic or 'add/remove software'
[05:57] <benny_> doesnt matter c
[05:57] <skavenge> ironfroggy: and you updated your repos after you added?
[05:57] <benny_> cu
[05:57] <wheels3572> facugaich:  WelL I guess no liNux for me then since I cant use the live CD
[05:57] <gdb> IseeIsee: Ah, if you enabled them, then you didn't need to .bin file.
[05:57] <erUSUL> !ipv6 > slavezero
[05:57] <Cntryboy> why do u have knox then lol
[05:57] <LoneShadow> Skaag: its my custom kernel, and limited packages installed, I used debootstrap for breezy
[05:57] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i asked how and was told that i cant do that.
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok I'm a newbie, I'm from windows environment. in windows when you install something it gets registered to the registry, whats with Ubuntu, I installed the bin file and it just extracted the bin into the same directory ?
[05:58] <m1ckeyknox> stefg: that's what I was missing... apt-get update
[05:58] <m1ckeyknox> thanks
[05:58] <rowanjl> Can anyone verify that the libdevil packages are bad?
[05:58] <skavenge> ironfroggy: 'sudo apt-get update' from commandline
[05:58] <stefg> bingo
[05:58] <slavezero> erUSUL: ?
[05:58] <gdb> IseeIsee: What Java functionality are you looking for?  runtime? plugin?  or full development environment?
[05:58] <erUSUL> !ipv6
[05:58] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:58] <Skaag> LoneShadow: So what you'r saying is that you are not really running ubuntu anymore... you've customized things to the point where it is your own thing
[05:58] <erUSUL> slavezero: check the ubotu msg
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: full development environment
[05:58] <ki11> does anyone know what this error means: 'unable to mount root fs on unknow block'?
[05:58] <slavezero> erUSUL: thanks
[05:58] <LoneShadow> its a bare version of ubuntu :D
[05:58] <ironfroggy> skavenge: the packages are still missing
[05:58] <gdb> IseeIsee: The .bin file from Sun is just a self-unpacking tarball with a small license blurb tossed in to make sure you agree to it.
[05:58] <facugaich> wheels3572: that's why I said you can try to fix that problem first. Did you read what scavenge said?
[05:58] <jpjacobs> my eth1 doesn't get recognized any more in ubuntu (eg doesnt show up in ifconfig -a) but it does get recognized in grml ( a debian based livecd)... what do i do about it?
[05:58] <IseeIsee> gdb: I'll be installing java wireless toolkit after this
[05:59] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: for someone seeking help, you sure are being kind of rude and pushy.
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I used to do that stuff but I must say that right now, I really enjoy the fact that everything I do just works out of the box, even at the price of a slightly bloated kernel...
[05:59] <skavenge> ironfroggy: what packages are you missing? you sure you didnt screw up your sources.list?
[05:59] <tcv> !ipv6
[05:59] <gdb> IseeIsee: Then if you have Universe and Multiverse enabled you can install the whole shebang with this command: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[05:59] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:59] <IseeIsee> gdb: first of all what are bin files ? just like zip files in windows ?
[05:59] <help> can anyone help me get the drivers for my wireless adapter on ubuntu
[05:59] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i didnt touch the sources.list, so no. im trying to install kubuntu-desktop.
[05:59] <LoneShadow> Skaag: I am building an embedded box for mythtv front end + video sip client
[05:59] <Seveas> !wifi>help
[05:59] <skavenge> ironfroggy: and whats the error?
[05:59] <IseeIsee> gdb the sudo command you talking about its gonna download files from the internet, right ?
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: nice!
[05:59] <ironfroggy> skavenge: the package just isnt there anymore.
[05:59] <gdb> IseeIsee: It's nothing special, the only 2 companies that I've seen package software that way have been Sun and WordPerfect.  You won't run into it often enough to worry about.
[05:59] <Skaag> LoneShadow: So let me try and help you locate the source of that module
[05:59] <LoneShadow> also installing everything on a 1GB compact flash card, so making my whole filesystem readonly
[06:00] <skavenge> ironfroggy: what error are you getting from 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'?
[06:00] <ki11> does anyone know what this error means: 'unable to mount root fs on unknow block'?
[06:00] <LoneShadow> I got the source
[06:00] <wheels3572> facugaich:  No I missed it lol but I just scrolled back.
[06:00] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i started installing it, and saw it needed over 400 megs of files, so i thought i would add the cd to install faster. but when i tried, the package disappeared.
[06:00] <gdb> IseeIsee: Yes, it will download the pre-packaged Ubuntu installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 6.
[06:00] <LoneShadow> install pwc-source, made modules, trying it out now :D
[06:00] <Skaag> LoneShadow: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/pwc/pwc.ko
[06:00] <Seveas> ki11, it means your initramfs is broken
[06:00] <wheels3572> facugaich thing is this it worked fine just the other day without an OS on the system
[06:00] <IseeIsee> gdb: anywayz how can I install java properly from this bin file ? settings the path variable & knowing where the software was installed ?
[06:00] <ironfroggy> skavenge: "Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop'
[06:00] <imsai> LjL: it (works) almost
[06:00] <ndlovu> I'm getting a lot of this error in my dmesg output: "[4412880.784000]  hdc: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)". I think it's because I had to use irqpoll and routeirq as boot options. Any idea how to get around this?
[06:00] <Sackers> I just installed ubuntu and noticed it doesn't set up a root password, or that I noticed anyway, does it have a default root pass so I can use apt?
[06:01] <kilai> i want to install my ubunto linux that was all ok then i insatll qemu and then i want start windows from ther bus i cant come in the interet what can i do?
[06:01] <LoneShadow> what package is ekiga, gnomemeeting ?
[06:01] <skavenge> ironfroggy: okay well the cd wouldnt help you unless you had the Kubuntu cd, KDE isnt on the ubuntu cd
[06:01] <facugaich> wheels3572: so you want to get rid of Win. What worked fine, the Live CD or and ubuntu install in the disk?
[06:01] <wheels3572> I had NO OS on the system
[06:01] <[1] astro> thanks all
[06:01] <Skaag> the package name is ekiga
[06:01] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: why are you using the .bin anyway? why arent you using the proper routes to install software, such as apt-get?
[06:01] <wheels3572> facugaich I downloaded the Dapper install and installed it with this SAME cd on an empty system
[06:01] <ironfroggy> skavenge: I do
[06:01] <LoneShadow> hmm
[06:01] <wheels3572> facugaich it installed and worked fine
[06:01] <LoneShadow> apt-cache search ekiga fails
[06:02] <Seveas> !info ekiga
[06:02] <ubotu> ekiga: Free Your Speech. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 3572 kB, installed size 12188 kB
[06:02] <gdb> IseeIsee: You won't need to worry about any of that if you install the Ubuntu package, but if you want to use the Sun .bin file, then yes, you can use it "properly" by setting your PATH and MANPATH environment variables appropriately and symlinking the libjavaplugin_oji.so file in the correct place (for the Java plugin for Firefox/Mozilla/et al).
[06:02] <skavenge> ironfroggy: if you already are running KDE then were you reinstalling or what?
[06:02] <IseeIsee> ironfroggy: I don't know the proper routes yet, I just downloaded the bin file from the internet thinking the way I download exe for windows
[06:02] <wheels3572> facugaich I JUST reformatted the system lastnight and put windows back on the system for my mom and wen to use the CD today to reinstall Ubuntu and it wont do NOTHING
[06:02] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i dont have kde installed currently.
[06:02] <LoneShadow> maybe its not there on breezy
[06:02] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I guess you don't have the repository setup, sec i'll tell you which one
[06:02] <skavenge> ironfroggy: okay so you got the ubuntu cd, installed, got the kubuntu cd, and tried to go over the top of it?
[06:02] <gdb> That "correct place" for the plug in is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and it must be a symlink, not a copy of the library.
[06:03] <m_0_r_0_n> I want to develope an OpenGL application, but I cant find the packages Mesa GL 3.2, Mesa-devel, Mesa-glut, and Mesa-glut-devel ! Are there any other packages?
[06:03] <ironfroggy> IseeIsee: 'sudo apt-get install java-common' or use whatever package management tools are available.
[06:03] <ironfroggy> skavenge: no, i started with the kubuntu CD...
[06:03] <Skaag> ok how do I find out which repository a package is coming from? apt-cache show pkgname doesn't show that stuff
[06:03] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i just hadnt installed kde.
[06:03] <skavenge> ironfroggy: so how are you not running KDE? you switched WMs after you installed?
[06:03] <gdb> ironfroggy: I've already suggested using apt-get to install sun-java5-*
[06:03] <LoneShadow> enabled backports, not finding it there as well
[06:03] <gdb> ironfroggy: He's preferring to use the manual install with the .bin file.
[06:04] <IseeIsee> ironfroggy: sudo apt-get install java-common what is this ?
[06:04] <skavenge> ironfroggy: if you installed of a kubuntu cd KDE is the default install, afaik you can't 'not' install it
[06:04] <Skaag> Filename: pool/main/e/ekiga/ekiga_2.0.1-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[06:04] <gdb> IseeIsee: No, it is sudo apt-get install sun-java5-*
[06:04] <ironfroggy> skavenge: an install command
[06:04] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:04] <Skaag> LoneShadow:  Origin: Ubuntu
[06:04] <LoneShadow> Skaag: I need to add deb http://pkg-voip.buildserver.net/ubuntu breezy main
[06:04] <IseeIsee> gdb: what is that ?
[06:04] <gdb> IseeIsee: What is what?
[06:04] <ironfroggy> skavenge: yes you can. i selected "install server" not realizing it wouldnt install any desktop.
[06:04] <Spec> !noacpi
[06:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about noacpi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:04] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Not sure I have that source repository in my sources.list... mmm...
[06:04] <der0b> how would I remove a file's read only attribute on a CIFS mount via the command line?
[06:05] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:05] <Skaag> LoneShadow: Right, I don't have it, but I can still get ekiga
[06:05] <IseeIsee> gdb: ok so you can't download files from the internet and install like you do with exe files in windows ?
[06:05] <LoneShadow> maybe its been included in dapper
[06:05] <froop> anyone know why i would get a blank screen just after the bios screen after installing updates ?
[06:05] <Aarohi> i installed draper drake. i have two soundcards on this machine, one onboard and one PCI. i'm getting all the applications to output sound through the PCI soundcard(the one in use), but the 'volume control' settings, even when controlled from the keyboard, dont make any difference to the volume.... its irresponsive to the system volume settings. please help..
[06:05] <skavenge> ironfroggy: uh okay, so id try the cd from the start instead of after it tells you how much it needs to install, and make sure the cd is still in your repo list
[06:05] <IseeIsee> gdb: after installing this jdk I need to install the java wireless-toolkit which also I've downloaded as a bin file
[06:05] <Skaag> Aarohi: click properties for the mixer icon, and select the correct mixer device
[06:06] <gdb> IseeIsee: Of course you can.  If you've been reading what I've been telling you, then you are now using a fully functional installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 7 software.
[06:06] <Aarohi> i have already skaag , it doesnt seem to work
[06:06] <ironfroggy> skavenge: ok but when i added the CD, it lost the package, so i dont know how to do it
[06:06] <skavenge> ironfroggy: otherwise use !easysource and fix your sources.list because kubuntu-desktop is in the main repo so something is messed up
[06:06] <gdb> IseeIsee: If, alternatively, you have been reading what I've been saying about using apt-get, then you now have a fully functional installation of the Sun J2SE 5.0 Release 6 software.
[06:06] <facugaich> wheels3572: ok, how about booting from a DOS floppy and use fdisk to erase windows partition?
[06:06] <Skaag> Aarohi: Play around with it, i'm sure you'll find a solution, it will be simple enough once you get the hang of it
[06:06] <cosmicShadow> Aarohi: what PCI soundcard do you have?
[06:06] <p0seidon> hey
[06:06] <wastrel> okey dokey
[06:06] <ironfroggy> !eastsource
[06:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about eastsource - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:06] <IseeIsee> gdb: no you just told sudo apt-get, I follow that
[06:06] <Skaag> Aarohi: I have 3 sound cards here, all fine
[06:06] <p0seidon> interest
[06:06] <skavenge> ironfroggy: id put the cd in and wait till it loads and try again
[06:06] <ironfroggy> !easysource
[06:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:06] <Aarohi> onboard ESS Allegro cosmicShadow
[06:06] <help> ***need help again now when i boot ubuntu it freezes on loading hardwaere drivers***
[06:07] <gdb> ...
[06:07] <Aarohi> K Skaag i'll try that
[06:07] <ironfroggy> skavenge: what am i waiting for?
[06:07] <facugaich> wheels3572: maybe there's a way to get ubuntu working without erasing Win, but I wouldn't know
[06:07] <IseeIsee> gdb: I have 2 other questions, can you do separate bin installation, like I want to do of java wireless toolkit which I downloaded from the internet
[06:07] <skavenge> ironfroggy: because technically with kubuntu being in the main repo you shouldnt even need the cd, so it cant find it on the internet or the cd? something's messed up and im guessing its the sources.list
[06:07] <Aarohi> Skaag: is it possible to make the onboard soundcard to not be detected by ubuntu?
[06:07] <Aarohi> or disable it somehow?
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: you can disable specific modules, in ubuntu, yes
[06:08] <skavenge> disable it in the bios at bootup
[06:08] <Aarohi> I dont have a use for it
[06:08] <gdb> IseeIsee: If you want to install the Java Wireless Toolkit, there is nothing stopping you from doing it.
[06:08] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i checked the listed repos in sources.list and they are the same as listed on my laptop, which can still find kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <Aarohi> Skaag, how?
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: skavenge is right, best to disable it in the Bios settings
[06:08] <IseeIsee> gdb: in my country we don't have secure internet, so the internet can get disconnected anytime, also the speed is 64kbps so I'm wondering if you always do installation in linux like apt-get, then this is really not a good way
[06:08] <Skaag> Aarohi: This is the simplest way to do it
[06:08] <skavenge> ironfroggy: try it again and see if it gives you the same error
[06:08] <Aarohi> Skaag,  What should I look for in the BIOS settings?
[06:08] <Skaag> On board audio device
[06:08] <Skaag> disable it
[06:09] <Aarohi> Okay
[06:09] <Aarohi> Thank you
[06:09] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it does
[06:09] <Skaag> in your Peripherals section
[06:09] <Skaag> good luck Aarohi
[06:09] <Aarohi> k
[06:09] <Aarohi> Thank you
[06:09] <skavenge> IseeIsee: apt-get is the most important part of this system for package retrieval security updates, everything
[06:09] <IseeIsee> gdb: then why can't I install the jdk from the bin file. it just extracted the bin to the same directory, I want it to install it somewhere & properly integrate it into ubuntu
[06:09] <tristanmike> I'm trying to compile a program, but as soon as I start the "make" process, I get this error...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18276  can someone please have a look ? Thanx.
[06:09] <skavenge> ironfroggy: have you rebooted since then?
[06:10] <angelika> hi at all
[06:10] <angelika> I'm here for the first time
[06:10] <skavenge> ironfroggy: also if it half installed then broke you need to purge the broken package out of your system and reinstall
[06:10] <samu2> where do you install more of these locales that you can display with locale -a
[06:10] <LoneShadow> Skaag: ekiga requires 140MB (mainly uninstalled dependecies) on my bare system :P
[06:10] <LoneShadow> evil
[06:10] <stefg> !build > tristanmike
[06:10] <Skaag> LoneShadow: ouch! :-)
[06:10] <gdb> IseeIsee: Here's the thing.  That .bin file is provided by Sun so that Joe Random Linux User can download it and get Java on their machine.  In general, it's best that you use the packaged version of the software (read: that your distribution vendor provides) over "generic" installation media.  Meaning, in this case, it's best to use "apt-get" to install Java than to use that .bin file.  As your requirements change, you may modify that rule of thumb for yours
[06:10] <angelika> Is there sb wanna talk with me?
[06:10] <Skaag> LoneShadow: I guess that's X libraries, Gnome libraries, etc...
[06:10] <LoneShadow> I got to make sure, I dont run out of 1 GB space :D
[06:11] <Skaag> angelika: over Ekiga?
[06:11] <testttt> hello
[06:11] <mlehrer_> help: first, stop spamming
[06:11] <LoneShadow> help: ship me the hdd, ill wipe it out for you :D
[06:11] <lud2k> hi
[06:11] <mlehrer_> help: second, cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda
[06:11] <mlehrer_> or sda
[06:11] <facugaich> tristanmike: you have aclocal right?
[06:11] <mlehrer_> do a "df" to see what the correct device is
[06:11] <stefg> you're talkink to yourself :-) mlehrer_
[06:11] <Seveas> mlehrer_, he left
[06:11] <johlin> When I for example want to remove evolution mail because I don't use it and I'm a minimalist, I'm told that I break the ubuntu-desktop pakage. Does that mean that the whole ubuntu-desktop package will be removed or just that the ubuntu desktop package just isn't complete if I remove evolution?
[06:11] <tristanmike> facugaich: searched in synaptic, couldn't find any package for it
[06:12] <lud2k> where can i download bash2 for ubuntu ? (i want to restrict users using ssh to their home directory)
[06:12] <stefg>  /left/ ... a pretty word for a kick
[06:12] <IseeIsee> gdb: so what difference would it make to do a general install over the one through apt-get ? and the procedure do to the general install, what is it :)
[06:12] <tristanmike> facugaich: I have all the proper repos enabled as well (official ones I mean)
[06:12] <skavenge> johlin: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, a package with a list of other packages to install, it is safe to remove, nothing will actually remove with it
[06:12] <ironfroggy> skavenge: yes i rebooted, and it didnt half install, i cancelled it before it started.
[06:12] <Aarohi> Skaag, Okay, I think I found what I was missing. But there's still one thing that its responding incorrectly to... my keyboard volume control... raising or dropping the volume doesn't make a difference
[06:12] <gdb> johlin: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, meaning, it contains no software itself but has a lot of dependant software.  It's used simply for installed GNOME and is not required after installation.  Before upgrading to the next release, however, it is suggested that you reinstall it prior to the upgrade.
[06:13] <facugaich> tristanmike: wierd, I could swear I intalled it through synaptic
[06:13] <Aarohi> Skaag, Everything else is working fine
[06:13] <johlin> skavenge and gdb: good. thanks. So I can safely remove all the extra apps I don't need? nice
[06:13] <Skaag> Aarohi: That is something you probably set from somewhere else, a different software that handles special keyboard bindings for volume settings
[06:13] <Aarohi> Any idea Skaag ?
[06:13] <tristanmike> facugaich: the only thing that comes up, and only when searching with Description and Name, is libguile-dev
[06:13] <Skaag> Aarohi: Now that you mention it, I have the same problem :-)
[06:13] <Aarohi> Ah.. heh
[06:14] <Aarohi> Well, if I find something Skaag , i'll let you know :-)
[06:14] <Skaag> Aarohi: I have volume keys on my keyboard as well, they show me the volume popup but the volume doesn't change, it's like it's muted
[06:14] <Aarohi> Exactly my problem
[06:14] <skavenge> ironfroggy: dunno what to tell you, obviously theres another part to the problem as things just dont 'dissapear' off a burnt cd and your also unable to get it off the internet, that doesnt make sense ... somethings seriously broke, id suggest a complete reinstall of kubuntu -the right way-, you end up with less headaches in the longrun
[06:14] <facugaich> tristanmike: yes, here too
[06:15] <ironfroggy> skavenge: you have no idea what kind of trouble i went through getting kubuntu installed the first time!
[06:15] <Aarohi> Skaag, should I try posting there in the forums?
[06:15] <Jazon> hi everyone.  i cannot figure out how to get acpi / powermanagement working for my laptop (NEC i-Select).  I would appreciate any help
[06:15] <Skaag> Aarohi: sec, i'm sure we'll find it...
[06:15] <Aarohi> k
[06:15] <Jazon> (its running hot)
[06:15] <Aarohi> I did find Keyboard shortcuts
[06:15] <skavenge> ironfroggy: well your going to play catch-up with packages from here on out from stuff that didnt get installed from the desktop install anyway
[06:15] <Aarohi> But its set correctly
[06:15] <johlin> Skaag: I have the same problem. I posted in the forums but no one seemed to care.
[06:15] <gdb> IseeIsee: Using apt-get will place the Sun Java version under package management ensuring that you get easy access to updates, the ability to use the "alternatives" system to switch between versions of Java, integrated with Ubuntu with no more symlinks or PATH statements to setup, and easy to remove should you decide you don't like it.  The generic installation from Sun allows you to keep non-Free software outside of package management, to place the installat
[06:16] <Skaag> Aarohi: yah i know, they are set ok but they are not controlling the correct mixer
[06:16] <ironfroggy> skavenge: i mean hardware wise
[06:16] <Skaag> i'm sure there is a solution for that, i'm checking
[06:16] <facugaich> tristanmike: aclocal comes with automake
[06:16] <ironfroggy> i have to run an IDE cable from another box to this one to piggyback on its CD-ROM
[06:16] <skavenge> ironfroggy: 9 out of 10 times your problem is sources.list issues but if you say its identical i dont know where to go from there ..
[06:16] <johlin> Skaag: does your volume also sound like crap when you set it to maxiumum?
[06:17] <Skaag> johlin: no that sounds ok, but I have USB speakers
[06:17] <DarkProphet> hi all, nvidia-glx stuff doesn't work with amd64 distribution
[06:17] <DarkProphet> is there a trick to get them to work ?
[06:17] <DarkProphet> the X server crashes
[06:17] <skavenge> ironfroggy: did you try to even boot into the livecd with kubuntu disc?
[06:17] <IseeIsee> gdb: what if I get disconnected during apt-get, will it start over again ?
[06:17] <stefg> yes
[06:17] <facugaich> tristanmike: install automake1.6
[06:17] <johlin> Skaag: aah. Anyway, I still have the same volume problem as you have. I've been told it because for example Rhythmbox uses the PCM slider and the keyboard buttons control the master slide, but it doesn't make any sense as master is supposed to me "master"
[06:18] <Skaag> ok I found how to fix it
[06:18] <Skaag> System -> Preferences -> Sounds
[06:18] <Aarohi> k Skaag , I'm ears
[06:18] <Skaag> Default audio device:..
[06:18] <Skaag> Select the correct device there
[06:18] <Skaag> the bug seems to be that no matter what you select, if you close that panel and reopen it, it goes back to the wrong card
[06:18] <Aarohi> Skaag, Its already set to the correct one
[06:19] <Skaag> on mine It always goes back to the wrong adapter
[06:19] <Aarohi> Hm, I changed on mine successfully
[06:19] <DarkProphet> any ideas guys ?
[06:19] <johlin> Skaag: I only have 1 to choose from. Maybe my problem differs from yours then.
[06:19] <ironfroggy> skavenge: you mean before i installed? yeah, why?
[06:19] <benny_> hi
[06:19] <Aarohi> Skaag, I also found a similar setting when you right click on the sound icon in the tray, and select Preferences
[06:19] <benny_> I'm here to tell you, that I hate xorg, thanks :)
[06:20] <Skaag> Aarohi: yah me too but that one works fine for me
[06:20] <benny_> (sorry, else I would explode)
[06:20] <Skaag> johlin: probable
[06:20] <skavenge> ironfroggy: well if the livecd worked fine what hardware problems did you have?
[06:20] <paulm> Is there anyway to get certain commands (i.e play, pause, change track) "exept" from being locked out when screen is locked? Probably a stupid question.
[06:20] <Aarohi> Its set to fine for me, just not working
[06:21] <lud2k> how can i restrict users to their home directory ? (so they can't go anywhere else or see any files that are not their files)
[06:21] <bobbyd_> hi, I'm having a problem with my pptp VPN connection under dapper, it used to work, but now it just seems to connect, but I can't transfer any data. I'm also seeing "Neighbour Table Overflow" in the syslog. Is this a known issue?
 wietz0r, allowing root login is wrong, (no matter what the circumstance (we could debate single usermode but lets not)), I run ubuntu on a couple of servers and am happy, they are internet facing
 wietz0r so does ubuntu
[06:21] <wietz0r> ~wtf
[06:21] <wastrel> lud2k:  check the -r option  in man bash
[06:21] <Skaag> weird
[06:21] <IseeIsee>  gdb: what if I get disconnected during apt-get, will it start over again ?
[06:22] <Skaag> so this is an ubuntu bug, i'll try to see if anyone else reported it
[06:22] <lud2k> oki thx
[06:22] <johlin> I've made some small shell scripts to fetch the latest codeblocks files from svn and build them. I don't wanna have to enter my root password when it installs as I sometimes just start the script and run away, so I thought I'd just add sudo cowsay blabla, but it doesn't ask for the password when I do that. Is there a quick little command that needs root access but doesn't really do much?
[06:22] <tristanmike> facugaich: don't have 1.6
[06:22] <_andreas> hello! i have a notebook (acer aspire 5024WLMi) with amd 64 cpu and ati mobility radeon x700. i installed the drivers but when i use the command fglrxinfo, there stands Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual! can anybody help me?
[06:22] <stefg> johlin: fdisk -l
[06:22] <facugaich> tristanmike: what do you have? maybe because you've got dapper?
[06:23] <tristanmike> facugaich: 1.4, 1.7-1.9, lol
[06:23] <ironfroggy> skavenge: it booted ok, but the cdrom is kind of buggy and during the course of a full install it inevitably runs into a corrupt read.
[06:23] <IrIT> Hi. Anyone here have any experience with a trendnet print server?
[06:23] <johlin> stefg: thanks, that'll do
[06:23] <rebelfallen> I have a USB external Hard drive. Is it possible to somehow have it running as well as my current hard drive running, and switch over to it like a VNC between computers... ?
[06:24] <Skaag> Aarohi: if you open a terminal and run: alsamixer
[06:24] <Skaag> what do you get? the correct device?
[06:24] <void^> IseeIsee: apt will resume just fine
[06:24] <facugaich> tristanmike: g2g now, sry, aclocal-1.6 comes with automake1.6, try looking for it somewhre pal
[06:24] <tristanmike> facugaich: thanx anyway
[06:24] <johlin> Also, I've seen in a few scripts that gets stuff from svn/cvs where you have like a list of tasks (1. fetching, 2. making, 3. blabla) where the actual programs that run have no output. How do I do that in a sh file?
[06:24] <Aarohi> i do Skaag
[06:24] <Skaag> me too
[06:24] <stinkball> has anyone gotten tuxguardian to compile and work on ubuntu?
[06:24] <Skaag> i'm still researching this, sec
[06:25] <Aarohi> k
[06:25] <Aarohi> Skaag, I'll try and post this in the forums, see if anyone knows about this... and actually something tells me we're not the only ones with this problem
[06:25] <stefg> rebelfallen: either  you're confused, or I am (-:
[06:25] <IseeIsee> void^: you mean if I shutdown & start over again tomorow and do apt-get install sun-java5.*        it will not start downloading the 60 mb file all over, it'll start from where it left ? also where are these files being downloaded where is the jdk gonna be installed ?
[06:26] <lud2k> wastrel: but.. people use cd, they can't access their own directory :( and they can type "bash" and everything work after
[06:26] <tristanmike> I'm trying to compile a program, but as soon as I start the "make" process, I get this error...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18276  can someone please have a look ? Thanx.
[06:26] <froop> is there at least anyway to get access to the updates i download through the livecd before i reinstall this thing? is there a dir the updates download to?
[06:26] <Skaag> Aarohi: Looks like there is a solution here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79717.html
[06:26] <Skaag> Aarohi: I'm trying this now
[06:26] <lud2k> wastrel: but.. people can't use cd, they can't access their own directory :( and they can type "bash" and everything work after
[06:26] <Aarohi> oh
[06:26] <mnp> crimsun: are you around to help me some more with that ALSA/soundcard issue
[06:27] <tahgixoo27343> I need to create an account that is locked to /home/natasha and has full permissions, also the user "natasha" should be able to run ./ commands in /home/natasha - can I get some help?
[06:27] <void^> IseeIsee: yes, it will resume. files are downloaded to /var/cache/apt. installed to wherever the package wants to be installed.
[06:27] <majd> !soundjuicer-mp3
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundjuicer-mp3 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <_stev_> wireless problem: how do I update my ipw2200 driver?
[06:27] <rebelfallen> stefg:  I want to be able to swap over to my other hard drive that runs a separate operating system. Right now I have to restart, switch the hard drive boot sequence in the bios and login. I want to be able to login to ubuntu on the USB drive while running my current internal hard drive
[06:27] <majd> !sound juicer
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about sound juicer - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:27] <wastrel> lud2k:  sorry, I thought that might help :]
[06:27] <majd> how can i encode mp3s in sound juicer?
[06:27] <stefg> rebelfallen: either vmpayer or man chroot
[06:28] <IseeIsee> void^: it will give me an option to choose where to install packages the way it happens in windows is that you install to Program Files, what about Ubuntu, which location should I typically give to it ? can it be in a drive which is FAT32 ?
[06:28] <lud2k> wastrel: on google they said to use bash2 but i can't fin where to download it :(
[06:28] <stefg>  /vmpayer/... nice typo :-)
[06:28] <mnp> iianyone familar with IHC4 module?
[06:28] <void^> IseeIsee: no, it will not give options. this isn't windows, it works differently, the filesystem concept is different
[06:28] <johlin> which archive format (zip, rar, tar...) is the fastest in compressing?
[06:28] <IseeIsee> void^: so where is it gonna install it ?
[06:29] <lens> I am curious is there a bash command to show time and date?
[06:29] <bart3k> johlin: tar don't compress
[06:29] <cosmicShadow> majd: you need to create a new output profile.  In the preferences window (Edit > Preferences, at the bottom)
[06:29] <Skaag> lens: date
[06:29] <lens> right on.
[06:29] <lens> thanks!
[06:29] <Skaag> lens: and date has quite a few params...
[06:29] <gteppel_> Is security.ubuntu.com down?
[06:29] <warlocky> I need to create an account that is locked to /home/natasha and has full permissions, also the user "natasha" should be able to run ./ commands in /home/natasha - can I get some help?
[06:29] <lens> Skaag... ok.