[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://mirror/ubuntu/iso/preseed/preseed-00-26-b9-15-86-88
[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: why isn't this preseed yielding a CC+SC?
[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: it keeps installing an NC
[02:33] <Roxyhart0> hi phpadmin doesn't work i can log in but doesn't show me the data form my ldap, any idea?
[03:07] <Darksurf> I need help with a bison webcam, M5602-s4k5aa .
[03:08] <Darksurf> hello?
[04:31] <Roxyhart0> hi this bug is with ubuntu 9.10 or any version?
[06:16] <Roxyhart0> Hi, i am trying to add schema in openldap and i got this error: ldap_add: Server is unwilling to perform (53)
[06:16] <Roxyhart0>         additional info: no global superior knowledge
[06:16] <Roxyhart0> any idea?
[06:18] <jmarsden> Roxyhart0: check your syntax really carefully, both of the command and the schema data.  I think that means you are trying to add stuff outside the chunk of LDAP space your sevrer is configured to use, and it does not know how to contact LDAP servers higher up the LDAP namespace hierarchy to add it there.
[06:18] <jmarsden> Most likely you just made a mistake in your command or your schema data file, but that's a guess.
[06:19] <Roxyhart0> my command is:  ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W -f /tmp/ldif_output/cn\=config/cn\=schema/cn\=\{8\}misc.ldif
[06:20] <Roxyhart0> well i think i got the error...thanks a lot!
[06:20] <Roxyhart0> is my schema
[06:20] <jmarsden> Roxyhart0: You're welcome :)
[06:46] <Roxyhart08> wow..unfortunatelly the same error...ldap_add: Server is unwilling to perform (53)
[06:46] <Roxyhart08>         additional info: no global superior knowledge. what it means
[08:14] <stanley__> hello
[08:14] <jussi01> Could anyone give me some help with creating a shared calendar solution on an ubuntu server? we already have mailserver, fileserver and svn setup, but I need to implement a shared calendar, accessable from thunderbird, (windows and linux), evolution and kmail.
[08:16] <stanley__> hi, I'm a noob, Is it possible to run apache as <user> instead of www?
[08:17] <jussi01> stanley__: may I ask why you are trying to do that? what is it you are trying to acheive?
[08:19] <stanley__> i wanna run a joomla! for testing and template modifications before i put it online and if all my files are owned by <user> then there is a permissions issue when php/apache tries to access and modify files
[08:20] <stanley__> i got around it for a while by using midnight commander as root and copying all my files to /var/www/ with mc
[08:20] <stanley__> and then set everything to 777
[08:22] <stanley__> ?
[08:50] <as1965> If all apache needs is to read/display html, only read access is needed.
[08:50] <as1965> If apache needs to *write* files (modify) make sure the files have write access for the user apache runs as i.e.
[08:50] <as1965> Apaches runs as user/group www-data/www-data
[08:51] <as1965> So, to let apache read and write a file, make sure :
[08:51] <as1965> perms : 664 (say) i.e. rw-rw-r--
[08:52] <as1965> ownership : <user>.www-data (say, for whatever user)
[08:53] <as1965> Make sure you understand ramifications of file write access like this - check security docs. Lots of web sites are being hacked.
[09:33] <PeoplesAdvocate> Hello all, I need help updating the intltool for Ubuntu Server 8.04.4, im having trouble building a application because it is not a newer version, any ideas?
[10:33] <pts_> when setting up DRBD, should I look at heartbeat or openais with pacemaker? Got the impression that heartbeat is better implemented in Ubuntu, but that it's "legacy"...?
[10:37] <_ruben> heartbeat's still maintained, but it's no longer a complete stack, but only a messaging layer
[10:37] <_ruben> legacy heartbeat is an all in one product for ha
[10:43] <pts_> ok, I see. Guess pacemaker/corosync would be the way to go. Corosync is the openais implementation that is used if I got it right. Quite a jigsaw puzzle this :)
[10:49] <_ruben> i still need do the migration myself .. still using legacy heartbeat ;)
[10:53] <pts_> Me and my collegue is setting up a storage-ssytem at the school we're working at, and after some research DRBD seems the obvious choice, but there quite alot to read up on since this totally new to both of us. You think the usage of Ubuntu as the platform will be a wise choice?
[10:55] <_ruben> i have experience with slackware/redhat/suse/ubuntu, of those ubuntu appeals to me the most
[10:55] <_ruben> especially with the given choice of bleeding edge and lts
[10:58] <ivoks> main volounteer?
[10:58] <pts_> that's what we concluded with too, but I've got the impression that drbd/high availabilty is quite new in Ubuntu?
[11:10] <stimble> anybody happen to know when networking comes up in the initi process
[11:11] <stimble> i only see it in runlevels 0 and 6
[11:11] <stimble> which doesn't make sense to me
[13:06] <Italian_Plumber> update servers appear to be slammed
[13:09] <bogeyd6> 8.04.4 needs landscape-common
[13:09] <bogeyd6> Italian_Plumber, lots of goodies out there to update
[13:09] <Italian_Plumber> appparently. :)
[13:09] <Italian_Plumber> good thing I run my own apt-cachers
[13:09] <bogeyd6> cool story bro
[13:10] <c0dem4gnetic> http://pastebin.com/m22a69e01 is how im now running vmbuilder... with that definition i should be able to ping the guest, from the host, on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:10] <c0dem4gnetic> trying to avoid bridging
[13:10] <bogeyd6> dunno c0dem4gnetic i differ from the ubuntu team because i prefer vmware
[13:10] <bogeyd6> !vmware
[13:11] <Italian_Plumber> vmware used to be available in the repositories.  Ah, memories. :)
[13:11] <c0dem4gnetic> tried vmware but needs some hackish patching for 9.10
[13:12] <bogeyd6> naw
[13:12] <c0dem4gnetic> and i couldnt get host-only networking running :)
[13:12] <bogeyd6> but
[13:12] <bogeyd6> !virtualization
[13:16] <bogeyd6> wowzer, even the anl mirror is slow
[13:16] <Italian_Plumber> Fetched 8902kB in 8min38s (17.2kB/s)
[13:17] <Italian_Plumber> that's on an apt-get update
[13:21] <bogeyd6> anl.gov is like literally out my isp's routers backdoor
[13:22] <_ruben> local repositories ftw :)
[13:40] <stickystyle> Never come across this before, is it valid to have a zone file that has a contact email that has a dot in it before the '@'?  i.e. some.user.example.com
[13:41] <ivoks> that's the general rule
[13:41] <ivoks> username.domain.com
[13:42] <stickystyle> yeah, I know that's how you do it. but can you have the extra dot in username?
[13:42] <ivoks> why not?
[13:42]  * stickystyle shrug
[13:43] <stickystyle> not sure.  searched around to see if that was a valid thing to do but didn't find anything
[13:43] <ivoks> i do see what could be an issue, but don't know exactly if that's not allowed
[13:43] <stickystyle> just never done it before
[13:45] <cyphermox> stickystyle, you should try it to see. usually though, it's just hostmaster.domain.com or something similar, which is handled as an alias for another account at the mail server level
[13:48] <cyphermox> i'd expect it works though, and just considers domain.com as the domain, since it's already defined as the zone is loaded... keeping it an alias has an advantage though: it's easier to change what it points to than to change the email in the zone SOA record if somebody else should receive that mail
[13:50] <stickystyle> Hum, passes with named-checkconf.  Just wanted to see if anyone else had done this as it's a production server, let's see what happens....
[13:53] <cyphermox> stickystyle, maybe run a dns check on it... say http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheckdomainf.aspx
[13:55] <stickystyle> And....no named errors, server still returns queries for that zone (private zone so no web based checking tools).   I guess that's a little bit named trivia that everyone gained today :)
[13:56] <cyphermox> stickystyle, indeed. right now, I certainly can't think of an use for this field anyway... except maybe for the registrar?
[13:57] <stickystyle> yeah, not really sure why it would be used registrar wouldn't even come into play as it's not public. but if I get a ticket to change it, then I do.
[14:01] <_ruben> the contact email field in soa records are pretty bogus
[14:03] <ezra-s> Offtopic. Any one with weblogic experience?
[14:10] <diago> I would like to setup an IM server for our office. What app will allow me to do this?
[14:11] <jpds> diago: Do you want IRC/Jabber? Sounds like Bonjour will do what you want.
[14:11] <mealstrom> jabber / irc server ?
[14:11] <diago> I'm not sure what the diffs are but I would like to be able to send files
[14:12] <jpds> Are all the machines running Ubuntu?
[14:12] <diago> yes
[14:12] <diago> the ones I care about anyway
[14:14] <jpds> diago: Then try adding Bonjour accounts on Pidgin on the machines.
[14:14] <diago> ok cool, I just read about that. All you have to do is add it and it works?
[14:14] <jpds> Yep.
[14:14] <diago> Damn, I wish everything was that simple
[14:15] <diago> Do you know if there is a way to password protect it?
[14:15] <jpds> Not that I know of, it runs on Avahi.
[14:17] <diago> Is there a windows client?
[14:17] <stickystyle> also note that bonjour based IM will only work within the subnet all the clients are in.
[14:18] <jpds> It runs as a plugin in Pidgin.
[14:18] <stickystyle> pidgin has a windows client
[14:18] <diago> Ok cool. Thanks everyone. I will check it out. I just don't want anyone pickup the conversations.
[14:18] <diago> s/pickup/picking up/
[14:21] <pts_> I'm reading the documentation for DRBD and pacemaker. I've installed the pacemaker-openais version, but the documentation on DRBD is pointing to /etc/init.d/openais and openais.conf, but the closest I have is corosync (which looks right though). Is it ok to assume that they are the same?
[14:54] <ZirdKust> Hi there... Anyone from Bournemouth or Lowestoft?
[16:20] <resno> whats logs should i check to make sure the server is "secure"
[16:23] <Temptest> hi
[16:23] <Temptest> need help . ... hheeeelp
[16:23] <Temptest> *g*
[16:23] <Temptest> i have to fill my hdd with random data
[16:23] <MagicFab> Temptest, so..?
[16:23] <Temptest> but it is my systemdrive ... so i dont want to overwrite any
[16:24] <Temptest> only fill of
[16:24] <Temptest>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/mount/point bs=4k
[16:24] <Temptest> overwrites that my data ?
[16:27] <Temptest> hmmm, any idea for fill up my drive ?!?
[16:30] <stickystyle> resno: the correct answer should be all of them, but that's very fun with a lot of servers.  Install logcheck and have it monitor your logs for any anomalies.
[16:30] <stickystyle> *but that's NOT very fun
[16:31] <resno> stickystyle: ive never done any log monitoring, which is why i am interested
[16:31] <resno> ive been very security lax up till now
[16:32] <stickystyle> auth.log and syslog are a good place to start
[16:33] <resno> is logcheck better then munit and moncheck, i think its called
[16:33] <stickystyle> but do look into logcheck as it will help filter out things that are not really important
[16:33] <stickystyle> not familiar with either of those.
[16:33] <resno> oh ok
[16:38] <Temptest> fills up or overwrites dd ?
[16:39] <resno> stickystyle: does logcheck require email to be setup?
[16:42] <stickystyle> yes it does send the results via email.  however that doesn't mean it requires a full blown MTA like on the box, you can get away with (as i do) something like nullmailer on the server which then sends via another mail server.
[16:45] <_ruben> Temptest: why would you want to fill up your hdd anyways? either way, dd can do both (overwriting and filling up)
[16:46] <Temptest> because i have offline uncorrectable failures
[16:46] <Temptest> raid rebuild stops always @_ruben
[16:46] <Temptest> so i did this how to's > http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[16:47] <Temptest> but the bad sector is empty so i have to fill up the disk, that all sectors become relocated
[16:47] <Temptest> point : Unassigned sectors on the page link gave some lines ago
[16:49] <_ruben> Temptest: so you want to rebuild your raid, but the "good" (source) disk is also bad ?
[16:49] <Temptest> yes
[16:49] <Temptest> big failure isn't it, its a firm-pc
[16:49] <Temptest> they took two hdds with nearly the same SN ... epicfail!
[16:50] <_ruben> had the same on my fileserver at home (raid5 over 4 disks) .. i used dd_rescue to clone the bad disk to a fresh disk .. raid rebuild (using yet another fresh drive) went flawlessly
[16:50] <Temptest> now i bought two hdds with 2month difference and want to make a rebuild, but it stops at block 12163
[16:51] <Temptest> fill up the hdd may help that the disk make her own fail-check smart-internal magic .. what ever .. i did a lot, need help .. ahhhh
[16:51] <_ruben> after that i used the disk's vendor tools to do a full scan/wipe
[16:52] <_ruben> might use that disk to expand the raid :p
[16:52] <wizzy_> hello people
[16:54] <wizzy_> i am planning on hosting 3 web sites on my server
[16:55] <wizzy_> where in apache should i write it so apache will read it?
[16:55] <wizzy_> .../etc/apache2/sites-enables/defaults?
[16:58] <stickystyle> wizzy_: create a conf file for each site in apache2/sites-available, then use #sudo a2ensite %conf_file_name% and it will create a symlink from sites-available to sites-enabled
[16:58] <wizzy_> thank you
[16:59] <wizzy_> that will work for forum/blog based sites as well right?
[17:00] <stickystyle> for sure
[17:02] <wizzy_> then for each site folder in /var/www right
[17:04] <thefish> hey guys, anyone seen this wierdness: i have a dell M600 blade with 804 server installed
[17:04] <thefish> it will boot fine, but no network
[17:04] <thefish> if i then console log in, restart networking, its fine again
[17:04] <thefish> broadcom netextreme II nic
[17:05] <stickystyle> wizzy_: doesn't have to be, each sites folder can exist wherever (pretty much) you want it to per the sites DocumentRoot setting in its config file
[17:05] <wizzy_> ok thank you
[17:05] <thefish> BCM5708S ^
[17:06] <stickystyle> wizzy_: in fact if you still have (and intend to leave) the default config enable I would not put the sites in /var/www as their contents could be accessed by the default site
[17:06] <stickystyle> because the default site uses /var/www as its DocumentRoot
[17:06] <wizzy_> so i should just stick my sites into other folder
[17:07] <stickystyle> if you don't use the default site, then just do $sudo a2dissite default and you could put things in that dir just fine (thats what I do)
[17:08] <wizzy_> thats command for dissabling default
[17:08] <stickystyle> thats the opposite command of a2ensite.
[17:09] <stickystyle> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[17:10] <ivoks> !!!!
[17:10] <wizzy_> i got lost in that file
[17:11] <wizzy_> can you point me to some example file
[17:11] <wizzy_> i didnt do this loong time already
[17:12] <wizzy_> wait
[17:12] <stickystyle>  /etc/apache2/sites-available/default <- sample
[17:13] <wizzy_> yea i see but where should i write name of website
[17:13] <stickystyle> ServerName
[17:14] <stickystyle> I guess that's not in the default conf file
[17:14] <wizzy_> its not
[17:14] <wizzy_> :(
[17:26] <ivoks> Omahn: here?
[17:26] <wizzy_> stickystyle
[17:27] <wizzy_> i changed default and made it myweb.com int here i added Servername myweb.com and i am getting error
[17:28] <wizzy_> "could not reliably determite the servers fully qualified domain name , using <IP_ADDRESS> for servername
[17:33] <stickystyle> wizzy_: thats fine, just a notice, not an error.
[17:34] <wizzy_> oh ok
[17:55] <stimble_> anybody know how to insert an init script to run before networking comes up?
[18:19] <kirkland> jdstrand: hi
[18:19] <kirkland> jdstrand: the latest libvirt upload breaks eucalyptus instances, something apparmor related
[18:20] <kirkland> jdstrand: nurmi has details
[18:23] <kirkland> ttx: http://mirror/ubuntu/iso/pxe/
[18:49] <tomaszf> hello all ... jiboumans: you around ?
[18:50] <jiboumans> tomaszf, hi
[18:50] <jiboumans> tomaszf: heading to the airport in an hour, what's up?
[18:50] <tomaszf> give me an email address to use for you. want to put you in touch with some wikimedia ops guys
[18:51]  * tomaszf is excited to get that ball rolling
[18:52] <jiboumans> likewise :) who're you sending my way?
[18:52] <tomaszf> rob and others. want to hear more about ubuntu virt offerings
[18:53] <jiboumans> tomaszf: absolutely, happy to do so
[18:57] <jiboumans> meeting time &
[19:10] <alex88> hi, i've installed zend packages, restarted apache, but still it can't find in path
[19:10]  * ninjah is fixing a broken mail server...
[19:19] <orudie> when I restart apache2 , here is what I see http://pastebin.com/m184cf240
[19:22] <Pici> orudie: Thats just a warning, it can be safely ignored.  If you want, you can set ServerName to something in one of your config files to make it go away.
[19:22] <orudie> Pici, well i actually plain to use a domain with this marticular box, so what is the proper way of configuring it
[19:23] <orudie> shouldn't the hostname say www.domain.com ?
[19:24] <sub> generally I add the server's hostname to /etc/hosts with it's forward-facing IP
[19:24] <sub> whether you want it to be www.domain.com or just domain.com is up to you (or both)
[19:25] <Pici> You should be able to add ServerName yoursite.com   to your site's config file.
[19:27] <qman__> orudie, servername should be (literally) the server's name
[19:27] <qman__> so if your hostname is server, and you're in domain.com, servername should be server.domain.com
[19:27] <qman__> it has nothing to do with the names of the sites you're hosting
[19:30] <qman__> for example, my internal name is home.local, and a server running apache is called tank. That server's name is tank.home.local, and that's what goes in ServerName, even though the website it's hosting is using qman.strangled.net
[19:31] <mathiaz> kirkland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AWSClientLibraries
[19:40] <orudie> what is the log file for php mail ?
[19:41] <mindworx> what is the command to open up mail?
[19:41] <mindworx> besides mail?
[19:47] <mindworx> anyone on the mail command?
[19:52] <soren> bug 464646
[19:52] <soren> uvirtbot: You suck.
[19:54] <soren> bug 455555
[19:54] <smoser> kirkland, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ec2-init/+bug/517239
[19:57] <smoser> jdstrand, can you flip cloud-init from universe to main ?
[20:00] <jdstrand_> smoser: done
[20:01] <smoser> danke
[20:11] <hackeron> hey, anyknow of any opensource central syslog/logcheck solutions?
[20:20] <kirkland> ttx: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/1.6.2~bzr1176-0ubuntu1
[20:23] <mindworx> any reason why mail wouldnt be sending on my ubuntu server
[20:32] <as1965> mindworx: how are you sending mail?
[20:32] <mindworx> i installed mutt
[20:32] <mindworx> i send one to an account that has a domin on the server
[20:33] <mindworx> and it works
[20:33] <mindworx> i send one to a gmail account and no bueno
[20:35] <as1965> What mail server are you using? Postfix or something else?
[20:35] <mindworx> sendmail
[20:35] <as1965> OK - I don't know sendmail (and don't want to). Postfix is standard on Ubuntu - why use Sendmail?
[20:35] <mindworx> idk
[20:36] <mindworx> but is it possible gmail is rejecting my emails
[20:36] <as1965> idk?
[20:36] <as1965> Check you mail log e.g. /var/log/mail.log? Maybe a rejection, maybe a delay?
[21:24] <zorzar> hi is there a way to exclude dependencies from packages? i run a hadles ubuntu server without X an a packege depends on X but i don't want to install it
[21:51] <stimble_> anybody know how to insert an init script to run before networking comes up?
[21:52] <stimble_> networkig seems to only be in runlevel 0 and 6, which seems odd to me
[21:52] <stimble_> im stumped
[21:57] <stickystyle> stimble_: I'm pretty sure it would be done in the upstart scripts now, but I don't have a machine newer than 6.06 handy ATM.
[21:58] <stimble_> yeah, are those somewhere different than /etc/rc?.d/* ?
[21:59] <stimble_> i havnt really grokked the whole upstart switch yet
[21:59] <stickystyle> yep.  upstart is supposed to replace SysV scripts, so it wouldn't be in rc.d
[22:00] <stimble_> ok, do by chance know where to look?
[22:02] <stickystyle> not off the top of my head sorry, all my servers are 6.06.  just trying to send you in a different google search path so perhaps you can find your answer.
[22:02] <stimble_> ok, thanks
[22:02] <stimble_> i will search down the upstart path then
[22:19] <as1965> stimble: if you want to run a script before an interface is brought up, perhaps look at the if-pre-up scripts in /etc/network - also : man interfaces
[23:28] <smoser> ttx, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/517696
[23:36] <erichammond> One of our Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy servers recently had a large jump in "system cpu" usage (apache2 processes).  Is there a way to see what kernel level services are being actively used?
[23:39] <tbc> erichammond: does top(1) help?
[23:49] <erichammond> tbc: top, atop, munin, etc. let us know that system CPU is being used and that the apache2 processes are the ones using it, but I'd like to know what is being done in tye system/kernel level.  E.g., system calls, general areas of the kernel.
[23:49] <tbc> *nod*
[23:49] <tbc> Hmm.
[23:50] <tbc> erichammond: stab in the dark. How about collectl?
[23:51] <tbc> I've heard Mark Seger talk about that. Seems to be uber analytical and thus uber useful.
[23:51] <erichammond> tbc: Do you mean collectd?
[23:51] <tbc> nope
[23:51] <tbc> http://collectl.sourceforge.net/
[23:59] <tbc> erichammond: I'd very much like to hear if collectl helps you. I haven't had a need for it but am always looking for testimonials. Mark is a friend of mine.
[23:59] <erichammond> tbc: Thanks.  I'm studying the documentation now.


[03:19] <infinity> zequence: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lowlatency/+bug/1187230
[03:19] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1187230 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-lowlatency: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress]
[03:19] <infinity> ikepanhc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-armadaxp/+bug/1187229
[03:20] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1187229 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-armadaxp: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress]
[03:20] <ikepanhc> infinity: for precise? you will have it today
[03:20] <infinity> ikepanhc: \o/
[07:36] <Guest85775> Dear All,
[07:37] <Guest85775> I have a question about adding a new wireless command to
[07:37] <Guest85775> kernel
[07:37] <Guest85775> specifically one of depreciated commands
[07:38] <Guest85775> What is the safest way to do this?
[07:39] <apw> i don't think we know what you mean by a 'deprecated wireless command'
[07:39] <Guest85775> sorry
[07:40] <Guest85775> I mean iwspy
[07:42] <Guest85775> I can not get any outputs other than errors
[07:44] <Guest85775> the errors: http://pastebin.com/krdNpPqJ
[07:54] <apw> Guest85775, when did it last work
[07:55] <Guest85775> This morning
[07:56] <Guest85775> oo sorry
[07:56] <Guest85775> it does not work yet
[07:56] <Guest85775> and I realized that is has been removed from the kernel
[07:57] <apw> well it is not removed from raring's kernel, which kernel did it last work for you
[07:58] <Guest85775> http://tinyurl.com/kernel-remove
[07:59] <Guest85775> see above link
[07:59] <Guest85775> uname -a out put is 3.8.0-19-generic
[08:00] <apw> oh then that is even dumber as they removed the 'connection' to ispy but the rest of the code is there
[08:00] <apw> so ... that implies the numbers wern't valid anyhow, so i don't suppose connecting
[08:00] <apw> it back up is going to help any, what number are you trying to find with ispy
[08:01] <Guest85775> I have several nodes in adhoc mode
[08:01] <Guest85775> I got their mac addresses with ifconfig -a
[08:02] <Guest85775> when I type iwspy eth1 + 0c:1c:6c:0c:3c:86
[08:02] <Guest85775> with one of MAC add.s or IP adress
[08:02] <Guest85775> it generates errors
[08:02] <apw> what did it do before
[08:03] <Guest85775> nothing same errors
[08:03] <apw> when it worked, in older releases, what did give you
[08:03] <apw> what infoirmation are you running it for
[08:03] <Guest85775> ok.
[08:03] <Guest85775> I find a forum post to see its output
[08:03] <apw> as the upstream wireless people are saying it was producing rubbish
[08:04] <Guest85775> https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=12889&p=2
[08:04] <Guest85775> There is a out put for this command and I am trying to get similar outputs
[08:06] <Guest85775> to be more specific I need signal levels of each nodes in the ad hoc network
[08:07] <apw> hmm, well iwspy on mac80211 devices has been gone so long you have near no hope of restoring that, we don't support a kernel old enough to even have it still
[08:08] <apw> it was removed in 2008
[08:08] <Guest85775> OK. So is there any way to get similar output by any bash commands ?
[08:09] <apw> that i know of, sorry i have no idea, i have never setup an adhoc network
[08:10] <apw> though do they not appear in iwlist <interface> scanning
[08:10] <Guest85775> no
[08:10] <apw> as you can see ad hoc networks in network manager
[08:10] <Guest85775> I have found
[08:10] <Guest85775> sudo iw dev eth1 scan
[08:11] <Guest85775> command yet it behaves strange
[08:11] <Guest85775> since it collects completely diffent mac addresses, I mean other than our machines
[08:14] <apw> presumably it is seeing everything in your area
[08:14] <Guest85775> anyway, based on my first question, is there a way to integrate iwpsy command to my current kernel?
[08:15] <Guest85775> if yes how?
[08:15] <apw> that functionality was declared dead and unsupported for the majority of cards back in 2008, i think that is a dead end
[08:16] <apw> and they did that saying in 2008 that it wasn't working for a long time
[08:16] <Guest85775> ouch, it really hurts
[08:19] <Guest85775> apw, thanks for your answers.
[08:19] <apw> np
[09:00] <infinity> ppisati: You have two new rebases awaiting your attention, BTW.
[09:00] <infinity> ppisati: #1186475 and #1187228
[09:01] <infinity> smb: And #1186479 for you, if you missed it. :)
[09:02] <smb> infinity, maybe you noticed the additional version number :)
[09:03] <infinity> smb: Oh, hah, that was only 40m ago, the workflow report hadn't picked up the title change yet.  Ignore me.
[09:04] <smb> infinity, Oh well it was only a tad ago... Btw, the saucy xen update to 4.2.2 would not need tech-board involvement, yet... lalala
[09:07]  * smb looks sadly at the smoke cloud which is now in the place infinity was just seconds ago...
[09:10] <infinity> smb: I got distracted by a lively conversation on #debian-devel
[09:10] <infinity> smb: Remind me about Xen at your EOD (which should be vaguely when I'm getting up)
[09:10] <infinity> smb: s/Remind/Pester/
[09:11] <smb> infinity, Its just what usually happens when you mention reviewing Xen packages to anybody. Just was abusing you a bit.
[09:12] <smb> infinity, Will try to remember... sometimes hard after sitting through irc meetings :--P
[09:13] <infinity> smb: I found the best way to deal with that was to transfer to a team that doesn't have IRC meetings.
[09:13] <ppisati> infinity: i did a rebase last week, but i was never 'imported'
[09:13] <smb> There is such a thing?
[09:14] <infinity> ppisati: Yeah, we skipped your update from last week, as we guaged the impact on omap4 to be not worth the process.  This week's is new. :)
[09:14] <smb> Guess I need to think about begging to move to release...
[09:15] <smb> Actually our own team meeting is just noticeable by the irc window getting hot (if open) from the friction
[09:15] <infinity> You rub your IRC window?
[09:15] <infinity> Kinky.
[09:16] <smb> infinity, More the text rushing by rubs against it. ;)
[09:16] <infinity> Also kinky.  I think?
[09:16] <infinity> If you're into that sort of thing.
[09:17] <infinity> Anyhow.  I should wander off and try to nap.
[09:17] <smb> I would not be completely sure either... Have a good nap!
[10:05]  * apw giggles at infinity
[12:01] <apw> [DEFAULT]
[12:01] <apw> default_host_main = UNKNOWN
[12:01] <apw> smb, ^^ i have that at the top of my .dput.rc
[12:54] <infinity> cking: Can you verify your SRU for bug #1180394 ?
[12:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1180394 in linux-nexus4 (Ubuntu Raring) "ubuntu-nexus4, lttng-modules-dkms won't build with current kernel" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180394
[12:56] <cking> infinity, sure will do
[12:56] <infinity> cking: Shiny, thanks.
[14:39] <cking> infinity, after some wrestling with the N4, it's verified
[14:39] <infinity> cking: Danke.
[15:40] <jsalisbury> **
[15:40] <jsalisbury> ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[15:40] <jsalisbury> **
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes
[16:55] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## Meeting starting now
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:16] <bjf> Number of commits applied since release -  lucid : 3362; precise : 3173; quantal : 2014; raring : 317
[17:19] <smb> bjf, I think I see kamal work to "improve" the r-numbers... :)
[17:19] <bjf> indeed
[19:35]  * apw manages to get -rc4 to boot ... yay
[20:49] <zequence> infinity: precise is uploaded to PPA and seems to be building fine
[20:50] <zequence> I'm still using this same machine for building, but will set up another soon


[05:55] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:12] <jussi> MooDoo: morning
[06:13] <MooDoo> :)
[06:32] <MooDoo> morning jussi how are you on this fine day?
[06:33] <jussi> MooDoo: fine day? meh. Im alive, I guess...
[06:33] <MooDoo> jussi: it's nice and sunny where I am and it's HUMP day so can't grumble
[06:34] <jussi> can someone just make this day go away? feels like a monday :(
[08:11]  * DJones blames AlanBell for the crashed chicken transporter on the M62 near Warrington causing 2 hour delays for anybody heading onlong it towards Manchester
[08:11] <nigelb> hah
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:13] <dwatkins> mornin
[08:14] <brobostigon> morning
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> DJones: psh, as if people want to go TO manchester
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> :P
[08:15] <nigelb> burrrrrn :D
[08:15] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Can't disagree with that
[08:15] <DJones> Just glad I was going in the other direction
[08:16] <DJones> Hopefully I won't need to go out to out Openshaw depot today
[08:16] <DJones> If I do, it'll be roast chicken for the next 6 months for dinner
[09:13] <Myrtti> aaaaaaaa
[09:13] <Myrtti> there we go, now I've got the song in my head again
[09:13] <Myrtti> /o\  http://open.spotify.com/track/7IW8D32HseVQHeo8J67BBl
[09:36] <mapps> HHH
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Third Shift Workers' Day! :-D
[09:57] <mapps> morning mate
[09:58] <directhex> protip for BT internet users: http://redirect.svc.networks.btretail.net/webredirect/?d=www.bt.com/appsconsumeraccount/ipSharing.do
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> Any way I can tell if a release upgrade is actually running? I have no GUI or terminal output to show that anything is actually happening.
[10:02] <TwistedLucidity> When I try to start it again, I get a lock warning.
[10:02] <TwistedLucidity> Trying to go from Kubuntu 13.10 to 14.04
[10:03] <mapps> not sure
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> directhex: what's it about?
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> From the URL + a bit of google.. CGNAT?
[10:04] <directhex> MartijnVdS, due to IPv4 address space exhaustion, BT have helpfully decided to use carrier grade NAT for domestic customers
[10:05] <MartijnVdS> ugh
[10:05] <directhex> the URL is for opt-out.
[10:10] <BigRedS_> TwistedLucidity: "ps aux | grep dpkg"
[10:10] <Laney> wowzers I never noticed that terminator can open LP: #XXXX bugs before
[10:10] <TwistedLucidity> BigRedS_: Ah, tah much. "pgrep dpkg" seems to work too.
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> Why I have no indication of progress is a msytery to me.
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> Oh well, shall let it trundle along
[10:21] <BigRedS_> TwistedLucidity: yeah, I tend to distrust just pgrep and always want to know what the actual command was
[10:22] <BigRedS_> also, the content of the lock file may be a pid, I can't remember with dpkg
[10:35] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:39] <popey> pip pip
[10:39] <popey> hows the phablet?
[10:51] <mapps> hi bigcalm
[10:53] <bigcalm> popey: the S5? It's nice
[10:53] <bigcalm> popey: not quite into phablet sizes. Still smaller than the Note
[10:54] <bigcalm> That said, does make my S3 feel small
[11:10] <jussi> my s3 died a horrible death...
[11:10] <jussi> she fell on the tiled floor
[11:10] <jussi> and broke her face...
[11:11] <jussi> now I cant see any expression from her, even though her heart still beats. She needs serious surgery to revive her
[11:13] <popey> i could do with a nexus 4 with a smashes screen
[11:16] <diplo> I've got my sisters S3 with smashed screen
[11:16] <diplo> But its about £90 to fix myself or £140 in the shop
[11:16] <diplo> :/
[11:16] <jussi> popey: what will you trade me for mine...? :D
[11:17] <jussi> its only minorly smashed, a small break in the right lower corner... :D
[11:18] <Myrtti> protip: get a cover for it
[11:18] <popey> jussi: a nexus 4?
[11:18] <Myrtti> I ♥ Ringke Fusion
[11:18] <jussi> popey: yes
[11:18] <popey> thats what I have on mine
[11:19] <popey> but replacing with an orange cover
[11:19] <jussi> Myrtti: thats why it only has a small break - i have a cover on it
[11:19] <popey> jussi: you could donate it to me, and I'll use it for the betterment of Ubuntu phone. Thank you!
[11:19] <popey> i need a phone I can use to run some automated tests
[11:19] <jussi> popey: my wife would be unhappy with that arrangement. can you provide some other phone to trade? :D
[11:20] <popey> I have an HTC Hero I'm not using ☻
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> the phone with the chin
[11:20] <popey> yes
[11:21] <jussi> *G* sorry... no :P
[11:27] <popey> Well.
[11:27] <foobarry> how do i pass an env variable to a ruby script? https://github.com/thorin/redmine_ldap_sync/blob/master/README.md
[11:27] <foobarry> The tasks recognize three environment variables:
[11:27] <foobarry> DRY_RUN - Performs a run without changing the database.
[11:27] <foobarry> cannot see how to do this :S
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: DRY_RUN=1 ./script
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: or
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> export DRY_RUN=1
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> ./script
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> or
[11:28] <foobarry> oh. easy peasy. thanks
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> env DRY_RUN=1 ./script
[11:28] <MartijnVdS> Lots of ways :)
[11:29] <foobarry> hmm.. that works, but the dry run fails
[11:30] <foobarry> the real "wet" run does work. weird
[11:31] <foobarry> sums up my experience of ruby on rails tbh
[11:39] <mapps> :(
[11:39] <mapps> just read that kid lost his fight with cancer
[11:39] <mapps> raised 3.5million
[11:39] <mapps> but died today (
[11:43] <MooDoo> yeah how sad
[11:43] <MooDoo> Stephens story
[11:43] <MooDoo> he's a legend
[11:45] <diddledan_> morning
[11:48] <MooDoo> morning diddledan_
[12:05] <foobarry> what did he raise money for?
[12:06] <MooDoo> teenage cancer trust
[12:06] <MooDoo> http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/stephen-sutton-dies-hospital-family-7118377
[12:06] <foobarry> what do they do?
[12:06] <MooDoo> support young teenagers with cancer
[12:06] <MooDoo> http://www.teenagecancertrust.org/
[12:09] <foobarry> good effort
[12:10] <Myrtti> I've donated over 100 pounds this year for Cancer Research
[12:10] <MooDoo> I'm getting on that way....
[12:10] <foobarry> i get a bit confused about where the line is drawn between the research done by pharmas and charities
[12:11] <Myrtti> even have a policy that if anyone wishes to donate to me or a charity because I've helped them, I point them to CRUK
[12:11] <MooDoo> fogive my ignorances, but pharmas research the cure, charaties deal with the people that have it?
[12:11]  * MooDoo looks at Myrtti with the aim of giving her a big hug
[12:11] <foobarry> i dunno. i assume the human side is in the charity, but cancer research UK are massive research org
[12:12] <MooDoo> foobarry: I don't care, they want money from me to find a cure, they got it.
[12:12] <foobarry> of course
[12:12] <Myrtti> foobarry: rare cancers or cancers that can't be diagnosed early enough to be cured aren't targeted by pharma
[12:12] <foobarry> i just wonder if the pharmas just bank a profit or feed back into the charities
[12:13] <Myrtti> if 90% of diagnosed kick the bucket within 6 months of diagnosis, there isn't that much incentive for pharma's to do research
[12:13] <diddledan_> we're allowed to hug, now, MooDoo ?
[12:13] <diddledan_> I thought there was a strictly hands-off policy
[12:13] <MooDoo> diddledan_: only if Myrtti gives you permission
[12:13] <foobarry> i lost my dad to pancreatic cancer last yr. there's not a great survival rate
[12:14] <diddledan_> maybe it's just me :-p
[12:14] <MooDoo> my dad was diagnosed with blood cancer two weeks ago
[12:14] <Myrtti> foobarry: my mum went almost 6 months to the day from diagnosis for bile duct cancer
[12:15]  * MooDoo sobs
[12:15] <foobarry> :(
[12:15] <diddledan_> I need a new mouse
[12:15]  * foobarry hugs all round
[12:16] <diddledan_> :-( /me hugs MooDoo
[12:16] <MooDoo> thanks
[12:16] <foobarry> feels inappropriate to share that dog video now
[12:16] <Myrtti> I can't remember much of 2011 - I realised when I was looking at the past results of Eurovision
[12:16]  * foobarry waits a while
[12:19] <foobarry> ym job is to provide good IT solutions to research (including medical research). feel a bit bettr about doing good work for those guys instead of my previous life in banks where it just profited the traders
[12:25] <jussi> to make a user full admin, which groups should I add them to?
[12:25] <jussi> I intend to delete the main user and want to replace it with this one
[12:27] <MooDoo> wheel?
[12:28] <Wobbo>  It runs, but it continuously hang. I've had it before, I do not know why and I do not know how I can fix this. But, Android ADT works fine.
[12:28] <jussi> MooDoo: more info needed?
[12:28] <MooDoo> jussi: I'm thinking out loud lol
[12:28] <jussi> MooDoo: oh, ok :)
[12:28] <TwistedLucidity> Well the upgrade didn't go too bad. Any fix for Ubuntu insisting I am using a US keyboard, even though every settings says GB?
[12:29] <MooDoo> jussi: do they just want to be able to do everything? couldn't you just add them to the sudo group so that they can run the sudo command?
[12:29] <diddledan_> sudo is the correct way
[12:30] <MooDoo> phew got that one right then :)
[12:30] <jussi> MooDoo: I dunno, is that enough? the point is that I need to give this PC back to work, and I want to delete the user so all the info disappears
[12:31] <MooDoo> jussi: if they can sudo they can do anything
[12:31] <jussi> but there needs to be a replacement user that can log in and do whatever
[12:31] <jussi> ok
[12:53] <Myrtti> remember to vote! --> http://www.euvox.eu/
[12:55] <foobarry> forgot to post my vote
[12:55] <foobarry> maybe tomorrow
[12:55] <foobarry> the EU list is ridiculous... animal welfare party plus a load of extreme group
[12:57] <Myrtti> I was reading about the falsified eu vote ads the other day
[12:59] <Myrtti> some are trying to mislead by telling people that voting for some party will basically put their vote in the discard pile because they won't get elected anyway, but the EU vote is proportional, not first past the post
[13:01] <bashrc> so what is euvox?
[13:02] <bashrc> I would really like to vote for policies, not parties
[13:02] <shauno> there's a pretty decent tradition of ridiculous parties.  monster raving loonies comes to mind.  we apparently have a dog running here locally?
[13:02] <Myrtti> bashrc: you answer the questionnaire and it tells you which party is closest to what you've answered
[13:03] <Myrtti> I'm a bit shocked that it gave me LibDem as the closest UK match instead of something I was expecting
[13:04] <diddledan_> it gave me libdem too
[13:04] <Myrtti> but I'm not voting in the UK election yet so that's fine, I'm spared of making a decision
[13:05] <bashrc> I don't think I would vote libdem, but that's maybe a topic for a different channel
[13:06] <shauno> weird questionaire.  it seems to spend the entire second half asking me what party?
[13:07] <jussi> I did it, got Vihrea :)
[13:07] <jussi> even though I cant vote...
[13:08] <Myrtti> ah, the way the proportional vote in EU UK vote is calculated is the same as in Finland
[13:08] <Myrtti> I'm confused by the lack of possibility of voting for a candidate though
[13:08] <Myrtti> but oh well
[13:09] <shauno> I'm not entirely convinced it actually came up with an answer for me; http://i.imgur.com/ksg6wC2.png
[13:09] <jussi> Myrtti: Im just confused.
[13:09] <DJones> Heh, Mine came out with Lib Dem, Conservative & Labour all virtually the same, with UKIP as a negative
[13:09] <Myrtti> I should probably do the same questionnaire for the UK vote...
[13:09] <TwistedLucidity> Myrtti: Thanks for that. Apparently I am just slightly to the right to Attila the Hun. :-P
[13:10] <jussi> DJones: you really are confused.... :P
[13:11] <TwistedLucidity> bashrc: That's not a bad idea. I (sort of) agree with the Greens, but a few of their policies are IMnsHO backwards
[13:11] <TwistedLucidity> AFAICT, they're the least bad candidate. :-S
[13:12] <DJones> jussi: Maybe not that confused, just don't trust any of the parties
[13:12] <bashrc> if there is a Pirate Party candidate I'll probably vote for them
[13:13] <DJones> I wonder whether a vote for UKIP would be better than ending up with a Nick Griffin as MEP as we've got now
[13:13] <bashrc> good grief
[13:13] <TwistedLucidity> I'll start an "Honesty Party". Policies #1: We're in it for own benefit.  #2 Maximise expenses claims and free trips. #3 Err...that's all.
[13:14] <diddledan_> this is me: http://imgur.com/mjZU46d
[13:14] <diddledan_> I'm a leftie I guess
[13:14] <TwistedLucidity> COMMUNIST!
[13:15] <DJones> I bet the back end to that questionnaire is going into some poll somewhere on peoples expected voting habits
[13:15] <diddledan_> lol
[13:15] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan_: Put the tree-huggers at the top, shuffle LibDem and Labour down...mine had almost the same %s
[13:15] <diddledan_> lol @ treehuggers
[13:16] <shauno> hopefully they're using it to weed out the ukip voters so they can be deported appropriately
[13:16] <bashrc> I am a computationalist
[13:16] <TwistedLucidity> If they weren't anti-nuke and anti-rail, I could vote from them with a clear conscience.
[13:16] <diddledan_> I'm completely glad that ukip scored badly. I don't want to associate with racists
[13:16] <foobarry> UKIP didn't start as racists
[13:17] <bashrc> did they start as idiots?
[13:17] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan_: UKIP have *nothing* on some of the moon-unit leaflets I've been getting through the door
[13:17] <foobarry> they just started as an anti EU version of the tories
[13:17] <foobarry> even BNP used to say "freedom of movement in EU is fine"
[13:17] <bashrc> actually my certificate unit name is "Moon Unit"
[13:18] <diddledan_> foobarry, now they're isolationist and xenophobic, which IMO equates to racism
[13:18] <shauno> if I can just skip straight ahead to the Godlwin line, you ever wonder how the national socialists were facists rather than socialists?  they didn't start out that way either.
[13:18] <foobarry> diddledan_: yes, they are now
[13:18] <TwistedLucidity> And in all faireness too them, the EU is a corrupt cesspool (bit like Westminster really). I like the idea of a united Europe, but some of the EU shenannigans makes me a sad puppy.
[13:18] <foobarry> and many BNP types fill their ranks
[13:18] <foobarry> TwistedLucidity: hence the popular vote from lots of old people
[13:19] <foobarry> at the last bunch of elections
[13:19] <foobarry> but UKIP are now spouting lots of bnp rhetoric
[13:19] <foobarry> and are saying nasty things
[13:19] <diddledan_> my main problem with europe is that the court of human rights is an autonomous unit with no oversight
[13:19] <diddledan_> like the NSA
[13:19] <TwistedLucidity> One of the candidates here was ejected for UKIP for being *too* racist!
[13:19] <bashrc> X all the Ys!
[13:20] <foobarry> same here
[13:20] <foobarry> that henwood bloke
[13:20] <foobarry> said bad things about lenny henry
[13:20] <TwistedLucidity> diddledan_: They can always change the laws that the ECHR enforces....
[13:20] <diddledan_> TwistedLucidity true
[13:20] <bashrc> I think Henry will have the last laugh
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity> Oh, wrong Henry....
[13:21] <diddledan_> bashrc, he's a comedian, of course he's going to have the last laugh :-p
[13:21] <bashrc> shouldn't that be "her"?
[13:21] <foobarry> he hasn't been funny since i was a child
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> I think the EU is a scapegoat for changes the politicos in the UK want to ram through regardless of any opposition (e.g. Routemasters, driving test centres etc)
[13:26] <bashrc> driving test centres?
[13:32] <TwistedLucidity> Yup
[13:33] <TwistedLucidity> The UK claimed that because the EU mandated tests at 50km/h (31m/h) that they couldn't be done on roads and millions now needed to be spent on new ones with test areas
[13:34] <TwistedLucidity> This resulted in many old ones being closed, which meant long trips for some
[13:34] <TwistedLucidity> Of course the projects over ran and weren't ready on time...a total shambles.
[13:35] <bashrc> test areas.  sounds cool
[13:35] <Myrtti> wat
[13:35] <TwistedLucidity> Turns out, the UK could simply have varied the speed to 48km/h (30m/h) but chose not to
[13:36] <bashrc> so it was an argument over 2km/h ?
[13:36] <TwistedLucidity> So the UK claimed, although it never was
[13:38] <bashrc> those kinds of things aren't very important.  it would be better if they argued about something more exciting
[13:38] <TwistedLucidity> Simialr thing happened in London when the ditch Routemasters for bendies. "Oh the EU is forcing us too..." Lies.
[13:38] <TwistedLucidity> bashrc: That's the point, there was no argument. The UK made it up
[13:39] <bashrc> aha
[13:39] <bashrc> still, the test centres could have been cool
[13:39] <TwistedLucidity> They exist
[13:39] <bashrc> do they have bits that you can swerve around?
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> That's part of the test, yes
[13:40] <bashrc> oh that sounds glorious
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> I'd have to go look up all the bits again.
[13:40] <Myrtti> it's super confusing that there's a little kid with my name in the neighbourhood
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> bashrc: It's not a skid pan
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> That's a thing I would love to have a go on
[13:41] <Myrtti> Finnish driving lessons have to include the skidding part
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> Understandably
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> I am told the UK license is much harder these days. Certainly my bike test was harder than my car test (about 5 years apart)
[13:44] <foobarry> i believe all the stories now that i have worked in public sector
[13:44] <foobarry> i didn't see how they could be true
[13:44] <foobarry> now i wonder how anything gets done
[13:44] <foobarry> who uses redmine? MooDoo ?
[13:45] <diddledan_> I try to know as little about redmine as I can get away with to actually work it
[13:45] <foobarry> just spent 3 days solidly working on a new redmine server, all bells and whistles
[13:45] <diddledan_> our install is seriously outdated tho
[13:46] <foobarry> been quite a challenge tweaking it, getting ldap -> sync, etc
[13:46] <foobarry> findign correct plugins for other tweaks
[13:47] <foobarry> have one small issue remaining
[13:47] <foobarry> a stndard install would take me ~ 1hr
[13:47] <foobarry> but this has been a beast
[13:57] <awilkins> foobarry, I use / admin Redmine
[13:58] <awilkins> foobarry, My install wiki page takes about 20 minutes
[13:58] <awilkins> We have LDAP and Mylyn integration plus the "Add managers to P1 tickets as watchers" plugin I wrote.
[13:58] <awilkins> Ondrej Sury's PPAs help immensely
[14:00] <foobarry> awilkins: what ppas?
[14:01] <awilkins> foobarry, https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/redmine
[14:01] <foobarry> also, my particular setup requires creating of tickets from anon users, which i have done, but
[14:01] <foobarry> the anon users don't get sent the emails
[14:01] <awilkins> He used to support back to precise, but that seems to have gone
[14:02] <awilkins> Oh, goody, the packages are still there
[14:02] <foobarry> so i use the redminecrm plugin, and i can send a note to the anon user but i still can't get them added as a watcher by default which is what i want, because i want techies to reply via email to tickets and the anon user gest the mail
[14:02] <awilkins> Oh, criminey, no they are not
[14:02] <foobarry> i'm on 14.04
[14:02] <awilkins> foobarry, Yeah, I think we will be too soon at this rate :-)
[14:03] <foobarry> any ideas about my issue?
[14:03] <awilkins> Not used that plugin.. and we don't allow anonymous access.
[14:03] <foobarry> sounds similar to your plugin, was it a lot of work?
[14:04] <awilkins> It's about 20 lines of Ruby?
[14:04] <foobarry> i sync my ldap users but new-not-yet added potential users need to converse via email tickets
[14:04] <awilkins> foobarry, https://github.com/awilkins/redmine_priority_mail_watcher
[14:04]  * foobarry looks
[14:05] <foobarry> which version does this support? could be handy for us
[14:05] <awilkins> Supports ermmmmm 2.x up to 2.4.3 at least
[14:05] <awilkins> And as mentioned in the comments, it's rubbish
[14:05] <awilkins> The config is "edit the source code"
[14:05] <foobarry> i see.
[14:06] <foobarry> do u change the UI theme at all?
[14:06] <awilkins> And I lied, it's about 50 lines of Ruby
[14:06] <foobarry> wonder if default is best
[14:06] <awilkins> lib/*/hooks.rb
[14:06] <foobarry> i just had a lok
[14:08] <foobarry> redmine is so awesome yet always something a little missing
[14:08] <foobarry> for your needs
[14:08] <awilkins> Yeah. And I kinda wish it was written in Python
[14:08] <foobarry> i feel so shonky doing this ruby rake stuff
[14:08] <awilkins> Ruby is blech
[14:08] <foobarry> feel outta my depth
[14:08] <diddledan_> ruby scares me
[14:09] <diddledan_> I think it's because it's so completely different to anything I've used before
[14:09] <awilkins> I sat down with a Ruby on Rails book and felt a bit better afterwards
[14:09] <awilkins> it's just sort of framework-by-convention
[14:09] <foobarry> i should do that, which boko?
[14:09] <foobarry> book?
[14:09] <awilkins> Can't remember, it was at my local hackerspace in manchester...
[14:10] <awilkins> I should have borrowed it
[14:10] <awilkins> There's the Ruby Koans too
[14:10] <awilkins> Helps with the syntax
[14:10] <awilkins> It's just a bunch of broken unit tests and you learn Ruby by fixing them
[14:11] <foobarry> i just get confused about user permissions
[14:11] <foobarry> who can run rake etc
[14:11] <foobarry> who *should* run it too
[14:11] <awilkins> I think that's just about who has the access rights to the folder
[14:12] <shauno> I feel we should offer hugs.
[14:12] <shauno> hah, sorry, I was scrolled up to "I use / admin redmine".  whoops
[14:12] <awilkins> Redmine Survivors Network
[14:12] <foobarry> i need chocolate
[14:12] <foobarry> found out my wife has been chomping my chocolate
[14:12] <foobarry> she ate 2 of my flake bars yesterday, 1 day after finding out i had a stash
[14:13] <shauno> I fear you didn't read the fineprint on the vows.  if you're married, the chocolate is no longer yours
[14:13] <foobarry> thats why i have secret stashes
[14:13] <foobarry> but i popped one on my strawberry dairy ice cream and her eyes lit up
[14:13] <foobarry> should have munched it secretly int he kitchen
[15:17] <awilkins> The world here is too hot
[15:18] <awilkins> Just in this office I suspect
[15:18] <awilkins> We lease it so they have no incentive to make us comfortable
[15:20] <Myrtti> should I go and get more laundry to wash? done three loads already today...
[15:32] <diddledan_> Myrtti, you're doing well then
[15:33] <diddledan_> I need to do some, too
[15:34] <Myrtti> well it's a pretty day and we don't have a dryer
[15:34] <Myrtti> so laundry day it is
[17:52] <daftykins> so you guys know Specsavers?
[17:52] <daftykins> i was at the owner's house today O_O
[17:58] <daftykins> anywho looked at a clients system today...
[17:58] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/58eBzFF.png
[17:58] <daftykins> over 2 million bad sectors on an 80GB HDD, seems legit
[17:59] <funkyHat> Assessment: OK :D
[17:59] <DJones> 80Gb HDD, how old is it
[18:00] <daftykins> well it came in a dodgy deal PC, running all kinds of questionable software
[18:00] <daftykins> as the SMART info there reads, it's been powered on for 2 years at least
[18:00] <daftykins> funkyHat: yeah i love that bit, apparently everything's fine if you ignore 2 million sectors have gone 8D
[18:02] <daftykins> then the second disk in the system is a 1TB WD... checking its' warranty i learn that it was pulled from a WD My Book Essentials unit, so likely an external HDD enclosure - and was out of warranty back in Jan 2012
[18:02] <daftykins> \o/
[18:04] <DJones> And thats running Specsavers :) ?
[18:04] <daftykins> lol no totally unrelated
[18:04] <DJones> Don't answer that, client confidentiality etc
[18:04] <daftykins> the system was at a building firm who are working on the owners place
[18:05] <daftykins> why does tzdata always get these updates 0o
[18:06] <daftykins> ok i have to restart my host for patch tuesday ho-hum ;_;
[18:23] <daftykins> talking of knackered HDDs, now zeroing my 2TB one that went wonky :O!
[18:37] <daftykins> i just worked out with some basic maths that this 80GB HDD that has 2 million bad sectors... has 8.5GB bad space :)
[18:48] <shauno> tzdata gets updates because timezones are crazy.  eg, http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_egypt05.html  (Egypt announced on may 8th that it's starting DST on may 15th.  changing your timezone with 1 week warning requires out-of-cycle updates)
[18:51] <daftykins> D:
[18:51] <daftykins> interesting
[18:51] <daftykins> ty sir
[18:51] <shauno> its' nice to think of it the other way around - it's impressive that given one week warning, your machine is already all set.  yaknow, just in case you go to egypt tomorrow
[18:52] <daftykins> lmao
[18:52] <shauno> seriously :)  all the XP machines are going to get it wrong
[18:53] <daftykins> i was disappointed to see that XP still gets the Malicious Software Removal Tool each month
[18:53] <shauno> I'm disappointed that "malicious software removal" doesn't remove XP
[18:54] <daftykins> 8D
[18:54] <daftykins> now now
[18:54] <daftykins> i'm doing these Western Digital warranty extension card things
[18:54] <daftykins> they've got the silver scratchcard style strips with the code under...
[18:55] <daftykins> only scratching with a coin also scratches off the code underneath
[18:57] <shauno> so you didn't win anything :(
[19:03] <daftykins> nah :(
[19:04] <daftykins> crikey, there we go 6 scratched and codes entered
[19:04] <daftykins> wewp wewp
[19:04] <daftykins> £18 to extend 6 disks to 4 year warranty from 3
[19:04] <shauno> including shipping?
[19:05] <daftykins> alas no :(
[19:05] <daftykins> £4.95 shipping from ebuyer
[19:05] <daftykins> in fact good call, have to ask for the VAT back now
[19:22] <daftykins> guys, 14.04 desktop - should single user mode by submitting the extra kernel boot parameter of 'single' work or not?
[19:36] <shauno> it does on server.  I know it's not an answer, but it's an awkward silence
[19:37] <daftykins> :D
[19:38] <daftykins> ty sir
[19:38] <daftykins> it fudges up on desktop, all you get is a blinking cursor and no TTYs
[19:38] <daftykins> (tested in a VM)
[19:40] <SuperEngineer> Steam's todo list [no completed : 1/ have major foul up 2/ keep absolutely silent about it 3/ treat customers [wage-payers] as if they do'nt exist.  Job complete.
[19:41] <SuperEngineer> sub no/now
[19:42] <daftykins> Linux edition? :)
[20:42] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: yup, all versions, & it is major. [sorry for late reply - listening to UUPC]
[20:56] <shauno> bah, humblebundle sending emails titled "ACTION REQUIRED" is not cool, at all.  'action required' means I've done something wrong, something's broke, or I owe you money.


[00:45] <Guest40084> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592062  .. Could someone explain me post #8?
[10:45] <dupondje> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9f4283f49f0a96a64c5a45fe56f0f8c942885eef we need this asap :)
[19:19] <dupondje> somebody from the kernel team alive ?
[22:27] <ledbettj> any clue why a mini pcie card would not be identified during boot, but only if a rescan is forced via /sys/bus/pci/rescan ?


[02:54] <vvro> hi, I was watching http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22028/core-1311-dmraid2mdadm/ well i got a intel raid, running a raid5, which no longer boots since upgraded to saucy with the new kernels, been using the older kernel 2.8
[02:55] <vvro> is there anyway to switch to mdadm manually
[02:57] <vvro> i can mount it in the initrd of the 2.11 kernel with mdadm, but not the dmraid


[06:44] <blaze[m]> yeah, but I kinda fell ill very recently, so staying away from all activities. In fact lying down
[16:30] <RikMills> plasma 5.19 will depend on Qt 5.14
[16:30] <RikMills> ^^ from #plasma meeting
[21:48] <valorie> blaze[m]: feel better soon!


[05:47] <seidos> hi everybody.  i just did this this flier for my loco, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts or pointers:  http://imagebin.org/113162
[07:33] <seidos> well, updated it, removed the copyrighted monopoly graphic:  http://imagebin.org/113174


[14:21] <ino> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834
[14:21] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]
[14:22] <ino> close
[16:26] <malek> Bonjour les amis..!