[14:07] <bazhang> Gigacore, then no need to worry about authentication
[14:07] <Dabbu1> ok..thanks
[14:07] <romulo> hi, I/O operations are VERY slow on my intrepid. I checked and DMA is enabled but anytime an application is using the disk, the rest of the system becames slow like hell, can anyone help me?
[14:07] <gregge> rockyrock: Can you see the powermizer?
[14:07] <cygoku> If I take the files from th cd image of Intrepid and burn them to a dvd, will it boot in live and be able to install normally ??
[14:07] <Gigacore> bazhang: ok
[14:08] <Mrunagi> does anyone here have any experience with bluetooth dial up networking?
[14:08] <bingungajaa> jrib : LOL i will notice that :)
[14:08] <bazhang> cygoku, the iso ?
[14:08] <Gigacore> bazhang: thanks btw
[14:08] <rockyrock> gregge: yeah, i'm uploading a screenshot of it into my website so you can see it
[14:08] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: mount says this: http://pastebin.ru/298057
[14:08] <Dusk_Bey> how can i start emerald theme at startup?? compiz fusion starts at startup but not with emerald window decorator
[14:08] <cygoku> bazhang : yes files from the iso (image)
[14:08] <bingungajaa> if i upgrade my open office in ubuntu 8.10, should i remove the older one first ? or what ?
[14:08] <Fenix|work> jtisme, this is sort of what I'm looking for... but I'm actually looking for a utility to make a bootable DVD that will restore an image to disk ... kinda like a factory defaults restore type of thing
[14:08] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, it worked
[14:08] <nikitis> Dusk_Bey, i believe emerald --replace under sessions in preferences.
[14:08] <jrib> bingungajaa: nah, APT will take care of all APT stuff
[14:08] <bazhang> cygoku, files? not sure what you mean. you can remaster the iso (!remaster) if you wish
[14:09] <outbackwifi> ljsoftnet: ok its also in applications-graphics menu
[14:09] <bingungajaa> jrib : thx
[14:09] <jtisme> Fenix|work, cant help you there
[14:09] <ljsoftnet> outbackwifi, its not there, its ok as long as it runs
[14:09] <Dusk_Bey> nikitis, thx friend
[14:09] <nikitis> Dusk_Bey, System => Preferences => Sessions, Under startup add emerald --replace
[14:09] <bazhang> !clone | Fenix|work
[14:09] <bingungajaa> is compiz and compiz fusion the same ?
[14:09] <bazhang> bingungajaa, yes
[14:10] <bingungajaa> bazhang : thx
[14:10] <dr_willis> compiz+beryl --> compiz fusion, now normally just called compiz
[14:10] <dr_willis> :)
[14:10] <nikitis> bingungajaa, mostly yes
[14:10] <Mrunagi> im having a problem connecting via wvdial in the cli because it wants my pin number but i have no way of entering it
[14:10] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: hm... on my box a multilayered umount works
[14:10] <cygoku> !remaster
[14:10] <DrummaDave> Anyone got a few minutes to help me out with Wine?
[14:10] <K-O-D> so no amd64 realtime kernel with nvidia drivers?
[14:10] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: you must get rid of that mount, that was wrong: "/dev on /media/disk type none (rw,bind)"
[14:10] <nikitis> bingungajaa, difference in versioning, but compiz fusion technically combining of beryl and compiz,  But like dr_willis said, we just call it compiz for short
[14:10] <outbackwifi> Mrunagi: use bluez-pin
[14:11] <Tyrath> Ibex has stopped me being able to view the PHP in files
[14:11] <Fenix|work> bazhang, jtisme ... I think I may have found the answer... how to turn your current install into a live-cd using remastersys
[14:11] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: but dont umount that "udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)"
[14:11] <bingungajaa> nikitis : you said earlier special effect and compiz is the same, but how come my ealier hardy, got "compiz fusion's logo" when i login, but now not ?
[14:11] <Tyrath> - how do I make it so ibex allows me to view the PHP in files
[14:11] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I guess umount /media/disk worked now
[14:11] <cygoku> bazhang : it's simple, i just wanna know if I can make a bootable intrepid dvd by burning files from the iso image of intrepid ...
[14:11] <Fenix|work> jtisme, bazhang :: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/remaster-and-clone-your-ubuntu-install.html
[14:11] <vitamin-carrot> view source?
[14:11] <Tyrath> if I download the PHP files Ibex will format them into HTML
[14:11] <dany_21a_> natalisushka so "/dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)" is still here?
[14:12] <Tyrath> and this is given I have fully logged in etc...
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, not sure, i haven't installed ibex yet, it's doing so now as i'm speaking
[14:12] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: no restart: " mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev"
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> hi
[14:12] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: it wont; its the webserver with php interpreter that does that
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ok
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> How do i get the new ubuntu version
[14:12] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: nope
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, i may have to disconnect here in a second for the install to finish.
[14:12] <outbackwifi> !lamp| Tyrath
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> ?
[14:12] <rockyrock> gregge: http://www.rakblog.com/files/power.jpg
[14:12] <cousteau> lost m Nvidia drivers
[14:12] <vitamin-carrot> cygoku: make sure you have a blank dvd in you burner and then right click on the iso file and click burn to disk
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ok
[14:12] <Dabbu1> IS there any substitute for ORACLE ?
[14:12] <Webmastehhh> how do u get the new ubuntu version
[14:12] <nikitis> bingungajaa, then if there are no problems, I'll be right back.
[14:12] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: so what do I do next?
[14:12] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: then remount it (with gui at best)
[14:12] <bingungajaa> nikitis : thx
[14:12] <cygoku> i see
[14:13] <nikitis> Dabbu1, no
[14:13] <natalisushka> remount /media/dev ?
[14:13] <sponix> Dabbu1:  why would you want one ?
[14:13] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: sorry, remount /media/disk ?
[14:13] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: so do I need to install lamp if I'm to see PHP?
[14:13] <rockyrock> nikitis: http://www.rakblog.com/files/power.jpg
[14:13] <gregge> rockyrock: there's only one performance level?
[14:13] <vitamin-carrot> cygoku: make sure you burn the iso at the lowest speed to ensure that it will indeed boot
[14:13] <rockyrock> gregge: what do you mean by that?
[14:13] <cygoku> okay,...
[14:13] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/disk
[14:14] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: if the php file is on your pc; yes. if its on another server; no
[14:14] <K-O-D> so no amd64 realtime kernel with nvidia drivers?
[14:14] <Mrunagi> does anyone know how to tether a phone in usb
[14:14] <Dabbu1> sponix:for RDBMS prtactice
[14:14] <Mrunagi> er ubuntu
[14:14] <nikitis> rockyrock, i don't know much about your issue
[14:14] <sponix> Dabbu1:  Postgresql, and MySQL are good free SQL databases, but Oracle is available for Linux as well, and there is Firebird also
[14:14] <dany_21a_> natalisushka than for the /dev:  "mount -o bind /dev /media/disk/dev"
[14:14] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: see the thing is if I try to edit the php files on the server I still can't view the PHP
[14:14] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: :/ mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[14:14] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: than "sudo chroot /media/disk", than updating should work
[14:14] <bingungajaa> anyone can tell me where can i find compiz fuzion menu, i can't find it
[14:14] <sponix> Dabbu1:  just go get Oracle to practice Oracle, free for personal use these days, ya know ? :)
[14:14] <W8TAH> is there any way i can play music from my itunes share on my linux laptop?
[14:15] <gregge> rockyrock: the powermizer wants to jump between "performance levels" in order to save energy, but maybe yours only had one level... then it won't help, I'm afraid
[14:15] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: sudo mkdir /media/disk
[14:15] <nikitis> what's the best way to reset a users skeleton?
[14:15] <Dabbu1> really....
[14:15] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: if  the server has LAMP then you can see  php interpreted
[14:15] <vitamin-carrot> W8TAH: have you tried songbird?
[14:15] <rockyrock> gregge: how can we know if it has one or many?
[14:15] <Dabbu1> ok
[14:15] <W8TAH> vitamin-carrot, no - -i havent
[14:15] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: so why wasn't this an issue in ubuntu hardy?
[14:16] <gregge> rockyrock: It should say performance level 0,1 and 2
[14:16] <vitamin-carrot> W8TAH: google it and have a look on their website i know that the ap allows you to upload to ipod
[14:16] <W8TAH> ok
[14:16] <W8TAH> thanks
[14:16] <Dabbu1> how can i send message to a IP on private LAN and windows user
[14:16] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: besides I really don't want to see the HTML considering there is no possible way to create dynamic webpages using solely HTML
[14:16] <gregge> rockyrock: have you tried different drivers?
[14:16] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: its not an issue; if you install server edition with lamp you feel youve got it by default
[14:16] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I am in :) thanks! I will try to fix it now
[14:16] <rockyrock> gregge: yeah
[14:16] <dekkong> Hello guys!! my friend has 4 computers @ home 1 ubuntu 8.10 and 3 windows vista/xp. He would like to setup the internet connection so that the ubuntu computer access directly to the internet and the other ones has to go through the ubuntu computer to get to the internet! how should he do this?
[14:16] <rockyrock> gregge: envy, glx-new
[14:17] <rockyrock> gregge: same thing
[14:17] <blekos> hi, i've install fusesmb. How can i see a shared folder on my vista machine?
[14:17] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: is that the server edition of intrepid ibex?
[14:17] <sea> what app I can use to play ape music file?
[14:17] <gregge> rockyrock: damn.. envy uses the proprietary drivers, right?
[14:17] <outbackwifi> dekkong: theres a howto on internet  connection sharing; read that
[14:17] <rockyrock> gregge: donno!
[14:17] <Stonekeeper> jrib: Does gnome honour the folders in that file when first logging on (and subsequently creating the dirs)?
[14:18] <gregge> rockyrock: system->administration->hardware drivers
[14:18] <Tyrath> !intrepid server version
[14:18] <Ligtas_Jnv> .omnitel.net
[14:18] <dr_willis> gregge,  envyng's task is to get/install the propriety drivers i do belive..  i would use it after trying the 'hardware-drivers' tool;
[14:18] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition
[14:18] <Dabbu1> i want to send a msg to a windows xp user over LAN at ip <IP_ADDRESS>     ,how can i do that
[14:18] <rockyrock> gregge: so what?
[14:18] <bazhang> !ics | dekkong
[14:18] <Stonekeeper> Dabbu1: samba
[14:18] <jrib> Stonekeeper: I'm not sure
[14:18] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: smblient -M
[14:19] <vitamin-carrot> Dabbul: isnt there  like a netsend or somthing with samba?
[14:19] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: smbclient -M
[14:19] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:then
[14:19] <gregge> ok dr_willis: rockyrock: dr willis said it's the proprietary drivers, but if you find any drivers in there maybe you can try them
[14:19] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I want to have an operating system, not simply an OS that interfaces with a server
[14:19] <Stonekeeper> i found out about the most AWESOME "winexe" for running windows commands from a samba server. It seriously rocks
[14:19] <Stonekeeper> you can even gain a shell on the remote windows machine
[14:20] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: and in addition downloading another OS prob take a few hours
[14:20] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: are you sure you know what you are saying?
[14:20] <jerbear> anyone here use xterm in intrepid? for some reason i can't see my foreground color any more
[14:20] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: .. ummm! I appriciate your help, hope you can still help :) .. I entered apt-get upgrade -f and got this: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/EOSwfk
[14:20] <lb1> hi
[14:20] <Dabbu1>  outbackwifi:can i know the full command to send "hello" to ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:20] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: hardy allowed me to see PHP, intrepid won't. why not? how can I change that? -that's my question
[14:20] <rockyrock> gregge: dr_willis:i found in Hadware Drivers Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (latest card), not in use
[14:20] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: I can see that it's just a few errors with certain packages. But why does it stop the whole operation for that? Is there a way to determine if it finished and make it continue and ignore such errors?
[14:21] <blekos> hi, i've install fusesmb. How can i see a shared folder on my vista machine?
[14:21] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: php code? or the actual page?
[14:21] <gregge> rockyrock: It probably won't help but do activate them and see
[14:21] <rockyrock> gregge: i did that before, same result12
[14:21] <clint_> Is anyone else having problems with sound in firefox with UB 8.10?
[14:21] <lhogie_> Hi guys, do you know a ATX P45-based motherboard that HAS a (decent) graphic controller?
[14:21] <bingungajaa> nikitis : are u still there, i'm very curious about compiz fusion, u said it the same with special effect, that's mean it's installed in ubuntu 8.10, but why should i Install compizconfig-setting-manager ?
[14:22] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager resetting to dhcp after every reboot, can someone help ?
[14:22] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: please read the documentation on smbclient; if you get stuck somewhere let me know
[14:22] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:22] <isaw> can anyone help with a fragged 8.10 upgrade?
[14:22] <bazhang> lhogie_, try in ##hardware
[14:22] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: I have no problem seeing the actual page, only seeing the code. and I'm not talking source code, I'm saying that if I download a php file with the host username and password, the file shows me HTML, not PHP
[14:22] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:ok
[14:22] <rockyrock> what the hell is the problem between Ubuntu and nvidia!
[14:22] <bazhang> isaw, please clarify fragged
[14:22] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : what actually your issues, maybe i can share ?
[14:22] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: when I had hardy, this wasn't an issue
[14:22] <nikitis> bingungajaa, ubuntu has default compiz setting.  There are thousands of new 3D things you can do with your desktop,  by installing that manager, you can tap into those settings.
[14:22] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: good luck with that
[14:22] <lhogie_> bazhang: thanx, I noticed that was on the wrong channel :)
[14:22] <prower> friendly warning to anyone with e1000e network cards or chipsets, they are still buggy as of this release :< my card is no longer working properly
[14:23] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: i gave you two options 1) install Apache and PHP on your current installation 2) Install Server edition with LAMP; you chose to ignore both;
[14:23] <bingungajaa> nikits : i understand now, thx LOL
[14:23] <stelt> how do i get an overview of my machine after hardware detection?
[14:23] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: i have lack in performance
[14:23] <outbackwifi> stelt: lshw
[14:23] <gypsymauro> hi
[14:23] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : so u got no issues with activate 3D and special effect with your nvidia ?
[14:23] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: when maximize and minimize i feel it's some how slow
[14:23] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: why do I need Apache? Apache's for producing a server on the monitor. I want to be able to interface with an external host
[14:23] <nikitis> bingungajaa, many have argued to install this by default.  But for some reasons the higher ups deny us this request.
[14:23] <gypsymauro> for a newbie is best to install ubuntu or kubuntu? (coming from windows, is a friend of mine but I've lost memory about windows:)
[14:24] <chadeldridge> I am having an issue with network-manager resetting to dhcp after every reboot, can someone help ?
[14:24] <Kaigeos> is there anyway I can install g++ 4.3.0 and not 4.3.2 with intrepid??
[14:24] <lorenzo> hi guys, my hardy is being weird. on boot it gets stuck for like 2 minutes as nm-applet apparently tries to acces the keyring but is denied acces, and everything freezes until i am allowed to type my pwd in. my bookmarks and settings in Firefox are gone. If i try to log out or shut down, both panels disappear, and it hangs until i give ctl alt backspace. Please can anyone help? Been struggling with this all morning!
[14:24] <HDready> short question... when i reinstall ubuntu into my / directory... i have the standard applications and so on again?
[14:24] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: no i can activiate them and use them but in bad performance
[14:24] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: im sorry i cannot help you anymore since i dont understand you
[14:24] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:24] <bingungajaa> nikitis : it should be installed by default LOL, but i'm not using it though :)
[14:24] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: try to delete all files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (from your old system)
[14:24] <nikitis> bingungajaa, i would
[14:24] <outbackwifi> lb1: do you understand and need the rt kernel?
[14:24] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : u experienced the same with hardy ?
[14:24] <nikitis> bingungajaa, lots of amazing things
[14:24] <clint_> sound+browser+UB 8.10=Not working!
[14:25] <vitamin-carrot> woot i broke my fstab again
[14:25] <bboris> bazhang Anytime I go to the partition manager reguardless if I choose manual or autocreate for the partions, when the installer tries to create the swap I get an error that it is unable to do so. I have tried changing option in the advanced tab for the location of the boo loader as well. and it fails each time. I am not sure why this happens if it can detect thedrive
[14:25] <rockyrock> bingungajaa: i'm using hardy
[14:25] <lb1> i do music production with jack, so i'd prefer it
[14:25] <vitamin-carrot> woot i restored from my backup
[14:25] <dany_21a_> natalisushka: and that is strange "Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y" - try to find a solution (maybe import the right key or what...use google)
[14:25] <bazhang> bboris, this is from the live cd or the gparted live cd?
[14:25] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: ok. wget<EMAIL_ADDRESS>will download a php file. When I open that file in vim all I see is HTML
[14:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:25] <bingungajaa> nikitis : yah lots of amazing things, but for me just not practical :)
[14:26] <Frijolie> after the upgrade to Intrepid, the toggle on my laptop no longer controls the master volume--it's been switched to control my headphone's volume. How can I change this back?
[14:26] <clint_> Hondo_Kitsune, have you used your update manager
[14:26] <nikitis> bingungajaa, lots of amazingly practical things too,  time savers
[14:26] <bboris> bazhang I think it is live cd
[14:26] <mrunagi> ok now im in the command prompt cany anyone help me figure out why xserver wont start?
[14:26] <bingungajaa> rockyrock : OH IC, thought u have problem with ibex, supposedly there's no issues, i'm using hardy earlier, and no issues at all (geforce 8600M)
[14:26] <Hondo_Kitsune> clint_: that is how i tried to pdate online
[14:26] <nikitis> bingungajaa, there was a difference in hardware with 8500 to 8600
[14:27] <clint_> hmm everything up to date?
[14:27] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: you could fresh installing it if you can easily backup everything
[14:27] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: but I want to see PHP code
[14:27] <td123> install**
[14:27] <clint_> id do that
[14:27] <nikitis> bingungajaa, here goes, my computer is about to wish a restart
[14:27] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ya, but they supposedly to be the same series
[14:27] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: wget will interpret the php file, it will not download the source, you probably need to download a .phps file from that server for source
[14:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> td123: that is the thing, i do not want to fresh install, Ubuntu is supposed to be easily upgradeable
[14:27] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: php code can be embeded in html cant it?
[14:27] <favro> mrunagi: if you type   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart what errors are shown?
[14:27] <clint_> my fucking sound wont work in my browser but will in my plater
[14:27] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: ok
[14:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> clint_: everything is up to date
[14:27] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: or use ftp
[14:27] <stelt> outbackwifi, i don't see my webcam, bluetooth, IR and digital TV tuner in there
[14:27] <solsTiCe> hi. i am always lost on www.ubuntu.com and can't the cd cover for latest release 8.10 i fthere is any
[14:27] <bazhang> clint_, no cursing
[14:27] <outbackwifi> !language | clint_
[14:27] <clint_> =\
[14:28] <fbc> nvidia-setting is broken. gives a segmentation fault
[14:28] <webvictim> yeah, there's lots of kids use ubuntu.
[14:28] <clint_> well then someone help me, im that angry
[14:28] <webvictim> you have to watch your language for them.
[14:28] <bazhang> clint_, no.
[14:28] <InfoNutz> anyone try the exchange connector for evolution yet?
[14:28] <webvictim> just in case, you know. ;)
[14:28] <bazhang> clint_, no cursing period.
[14:28] <clint_> im a kid
[14:28] <clint_> dude i know
[14:28] <clint_> sry
[14:28] <vitamin-carrot> then your parents fail
[14:28] <mrunagi> can anyone help me figure out why i have no tmp directory?
[14:28] <webvictim> um, hardly.
[14:28] <sea> 我用什么 软件可以播放ape文件？
[14:28] <clint_> lol i have kids
[14:28] <Hondo_Kitsune> Ok, that is plenty, no spam wars
[14:28] <paul68> !ch
[14:28] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: other way around. HTML code can be embeded in PHP. PHP code cannot be embeded in HTML. HTML a static markup language that simply displays things on web pages. PHP actually does things
[14:29] <outbackwifi> !cn | sea
[14:29] <paul68> !jp
[14:29] <nikitis> sea, I do not speak japanese
[14:29] <bazhang> sea you need to speak english here
[14:29] <mrunagi> when i try to sudo mkdir tmp i get cannot create directory 'tmp': no such file or directory
[14:29] <bazhang> that is chinese
[14:29] <mrunagi> i think thats why i cant start x
[14:29] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: hermmmmmmmmmmm
[14:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> td123: I also have the alt cd in my drive and cannot upgrade fro mthere either
[14:29] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:29] <bingungajaa> nikitis : that's chinese not japanese hehehe
[14:29] <sea> OK
[14:29] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: have you search the forums?
[14:29] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: sorry I don't know what you mean by embedded. HTML is just a bunch of tags run on the client
[14:29] <nikitis> bingungajaa, it's all spanish to me
[14:29] <favro> mrunagi: sudo mkdir /temp
[14:29] <mrunagi> i get cannot stat:  /tmp/.X11-unix (no such file or directory), aborting
[14:30] <flemota> helppp!!!
[14:30] <mrunagi> favro: but x is looking for /tmp not /temp
[14:30] <td123> Hondo_Kitsune: I have never upgraded :P
[14:30] <gypsymauro> the new ubuntu handles now the gnome/kde menu if I install both or is still a mess?
[14:30] <bazhang> flemota, ask a question
[14:30] <outbackwifi> !please | flemota
[14:30] <flemota> i cant active the video driver
[14:30] <mrunagi> odd thing is i see tmp in the dir
[14:30] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: as such I would say its impossible to embed languages in it
[14:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:30] <mrunagi> wwhen i try to cd to it it says it isnt there
[14:30] <clint_> td123, can you download and burn a cd?
[14:30] <bingungajaa> nikitis : what vga u using ?
[14:30] <flemota> okay guys
[14:30] <nikitis> PNY 8600 GT
[14:30] <pvinis> hello
[14:30] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: though you can use PHP to produce HTML
[14:30] <natalisushka> dany_21a_: yes it asked me for verification. now I ran update and it seems fine,so I am doing dist-upgrade to continue what was left and it's working. with no problems so far, fetching packages form the internet, hope it'll work :)
[14:30] <td123> clint_: of course... but I used the usb stick
[14:30] <pvinis> ellines?!?
[14:31] <Tyrath> vitamin-carrot: as such you can embed HTML in PHP
[14:31] <clint_> why doesnt he try that?
[14:31] <bazhang> !gr | pvinis
[14:31] <td123> clint_: he did
[14:31] <flemota> #ubuntu-es
[14:31] <Frijolie> ubuntu needs to fix pulseaudio, it's shameful
[14:31] <Slart> Frijolie: what's wrong with it?
[14:31] <td123> Frijolie: I would agree if my pulseaudio didn't work :D
[14:31] <bingungajaa> nikitis : ic, be rite back, got confused with installing cairo-dock, seems to be not working
[14:31] <nikitis> Slart, practially everything.  if you have onboard sound
[14:31] <pvinis> thelo help me to cal3d
[14:31] <favro> mrunagi: try mkdir /tmp instead of tmp
[14:31] <pvinis> kserei kaneis?
[14:32] <bboris> bazhang It is the CD u download from the ubunto site
[14:32] <Frijolie> slart: buggy and only some of the time works on my laptop
[14:32] <mrunagi> same message
[14:32] <clint_> ive never seen that
[14:32] <Frijolie> td123: it doesn't work for me
[14:32] <mrunagi> x wont start because it says tmp doesnt exisyt
[14:32] <Tyrath> gah if I look up PHP and intrepid ibex in google it comes up with absolutely nothing
[14:32] <pvinis_> can anyone help me with cal3d?
[14:32] <bazhang> pvinis, english here; #ubuntu-gr for greek
[14:32] <clint_> so are they shipping 8.10 now?
[14:32] <pvinis> ok
[14:32] <Dabbu1> outbackwifi:Connection to COOL-GUY failed. Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[14:32] <Slart> nikitis: works nicely with my onboard sound.. perhaps I'm just lucky
[14:32] <pvinis> can anyone help me with cal3d?
[14:32] <outbackwifi> Frijolie: you have the option of removing Pulseaudio and replacing it with Alsa or esd (tho thats obsolete)
[14:32] <Slart> Frijolie: it's not an alsa problem then? I thought pulseaudio used alsa "behind the scenes"
[14:32] <nikitis> Slart, must be.  It treats my onboard as an ancient device and leaves it for dead.  and it's not that old
[14:32] <vitamin-carrot> oh dears ive noticed a bug in the themes
[14:32] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:33] <Tyrath> ok so ibex is obviously filtering out PHP making it impossible for me to see and edit the PHP
[14:33] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I'm not sure if I understand what you're trying to accomplish. The PHP interpreter parses PHP code and outputs HTML to the webserver to be delivered to the browser. That means that the browser never gets to see the original PHP code, only the results that it produces.
[14:33] <Frijolie> outbackwifi: yeah, i'd like to downgrade but id lose the support
[14:33] <pvinis_> I need help installing cal3d pla
[14:33] <pvinis_> pls*
[14:33] <nikitis> Slart, alsa works great for onboard cards of all varieties
[14:33] <outbackwifi> Dabbu1: use the -I to specify ip address also; i have found that works at times
[14:33] <Frijolie> slart: I've never had problems with the sound volume until the "upgrade" to PulseAudio
[14:33] <natalisushka> Guys, is there a way to connect to an open wireless connection without any passphrase? Cuz the network interface asks me for a passphrase and won't let button "Connect" be activated unless I type something there!
[14:34] <vitamin-carrot> Tyrath: by that reasoning there should be a way to turn said filter off
[14:34] <outbackwifi> DeadFishMan: i suggested to him to use ftp and not wget to download the .php file; he just wont listen o_O
[14:34] <Slart> nikitis: once alsa was working pulse has never given me any problems.. alsa on the other hand
[14:34] <Frijolie> slart: now, since the upgrade to Intrepid, I've lost functionality of the volume toggle on my laptop. Pulse has associated it with my headphones instead of my master volume control
[14:34] <dA_ShArP> Hi people , I have ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe motherboard, mii-tools doesn't detect both of my cards, what would have gone wrong?
[14:34] <nikitis> natalisushka, select none for wireless security type,  you cannot have wpa/wep without a passphrase
[14:34] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: wget, curl and the likes basically work like a web browser, meaning that they retrieve content using HTTP so it doesn't make any difference
[14:34] <Slart> Frijolie: are those the only problems you have?
[14:34] <andresj> hey, anybody tried upgrading from hardy to intrepid? any problems? i remember the upgrade from feisty to hardy was pretty harsh; had to reinstall.
[14:34] <newk> upgraded to 8.10 and compiz not workin at all
[14:34] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: pastebin your dmesg|grep Ether
[14:35] <DeadFishMan> outbackwifi: Either he needs to have FTP access to the host or some sort of WebDAV access would work as well.
[14:35] <natalisushka> nikitis: so what must I do?
[14:35] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, moment doing
[14:35] <nikitis> natalisushka, make sure to disable wireless security on your router as well
[14:35] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I understand how PHP works. I've coded web applications in PHP. Now. I have the username and password of a server which has PHP files on it. When I download those files to the harddrive and open them all I see is PHP. If I open those files on the server using vim all I see is HTML. infact all I ever see is HTML
[14:35] <Dabbu> outbackwifi:r u there ?
[14:35] <outbackwifi> DeadFishMan: he does; but he is using wget which interprets the php and downloads the html
[14:35] <nikitis> natalisushka, when selecting the type in network-manager, just change wep/wpa to none
[14:35] <Frijolie> slart: no, the sound volume---although everything says it's 100% it only sounds like it's 50%. Everything is awfully quiet.
[14:35] <DeadFishMan> outbackwifi: right
[14:35] <lb1> help, I installed ubuntu 8.10 but it seems to have corrupted my bios, what am i supposed to do?
[14:35] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, [   33.089978] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.61.
[14:36] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: when I had ubuntu hardy and I opened these files off the webserver it showed me the PHP
[14:36] <csarven> Any recommendations for a notebook that is Ubuntu friendly?
[14:36] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, and only that line :-|
[14:36] <nikitis> FriedCPU, pulse audio fails at adding bass and treble settings.
[14:36] <Frijolie> slart: the sound volume in Flash videos sometimes is almost non existent
[14:36] <Dorobo18jp> anyone out there that can tell me how to open a .py file in gedit
[14:36] <Slart> Frijolie: I'm not sure pulseaudio is responsible for handling the special volume button on your laptop.. isn't there some kind of special utility that does that?
[14:36] <nikitis> FriedCPU, miss tell
[14:36] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: you're logged into the server on a SSH Session and when you try to vim files, all that you see is HTML?
[14:36] <stelt> Frijolie: my ubuntu is also a lot quieter than Vista
[14:36] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: can you pastebin your entire dmesg please/
[14:36] <Hondo_Kitsune> lb1: Ubuntu is software that has no direct link to your BIOS. Something else must have got it.
[14:36] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, doing :)
[14:36] <slestak> is it possible to dump all my thunderbird account settings to lpr?  i only use imap, so i dont need to move mails, but i have 3 imap accounts.
[14:36] <alpha> I cant c/a/f2 to get to a shell ... please help .. its just a black screen no video output
[14:36] <Slart> Frijolie: you've checked the regular alsa volume controls?
[14:36] <vitamin-carrot> lbl: reset bios and see what happens
[14:36] <nikitis> Frijolie, Pulse audio fails at adding bass and treble to onboard sound cards as it believes it doesn't support it, but it does.
[14:36] <reqqit> join #reddit
[14:36] <natalisushka> nikitis: how? My icon shows me the connection when I am in the range, should I select it? Or how can i choose to connect to a specific one?
[14:36] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I've tried wget, i've tried ssh and i've tried using vim to open them directly off the server
[14:36] <Frijolie> slart: the "volume button" on my laptop was working as I expected it to on Hardy....the upgrade to Intrepid changed it somehow
[14:36] <reqqit> &$*(&$( irc client
[14:37] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: in every scenario all I see is HTML
[14:37] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, http://pastebin.com/m46563e03
[14:37] <Slart> Frijolie: yes, I believe you on that.. I just don't think it's pulseaudio that's broken
[14:37] <nikitis> natalisushka, if there is a shield by the connection, then your router is set to use security
[14:37] <lb1> actually, since nobody is listening to me, i wanted to troll a bit, maybe someone will notice :P
[14:37] <Frijolie> slart: yes, I have been through alsa mixer many times and even have alsa-mixer-gui installed
[14:37] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That's odd, to say the least
[14:37] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:37] <bboris> where do I download  ubuntu live  cd with gparted ?
[14:37] <alpha> I cant c/a/f2 to get to a shell ... please help .. its just a black screen no video output
[14:37] <nikitis> natalisushka, if there is not just select it, and it shouldn't ask you for a passphrase,  If it's asking for you a passphrase for a keyring, just make something up and remember what it is.  that's different.
[14:37] <Slart> Frijolie: can you check the settings in system, preferences, sound? are they all set to pulseaudio?
[14:37] <natalisushka> bboris: go to www.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <Frijolie> slart: all volumes are set to 100%
[14:38] <pucko-> how can I find all installed packages that are not available in my "apt-get database"? (I want to clean out old packages after upgrade)
[14:38] <toomai> hi all
[14:38] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: But wget would not change anything on this scenario. It retrieves files through HTTP and therefore you would never get to see PHP code with it.
[14:38] <nikitis> keyring is for PAM Authentication or something, nothing to do with the connection.
[14:38] <natalisushka> nikitis, I see. I will try, thanks
[14:38] <Milos_SD> How can I fix "Error while storing folder 'Inbox' " problem with Evolution in Ibex?
[14:38] <nikitis> natalisushka, good luck
[14:38] <bboris> natalisushka i am there
[14:38] <lb1> hi, i have ubuntu 7.10, i tried installing and using the rt kernel (2.6.22-15) but it just crashes on me, it freezes on startup without even accessing the disk, if someone wants i can give the kernel messages but nothing unusual in them, can someone help me sort it out?
[14:38] <andresj> Tyrath: maybe try ``ssh username@server``; then, inside: ``cat /path/to/file.php``. unless u already did that. :P
[14:38] <Frijolie> slart: yes, they're all set to Pulse Audio Sound Server
[14:38] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: that's not true. On Ubuntu Hardy I could see the PHP code
[14:38] <vitamin-carrot> bboris: then download the iso
[14:39] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Using wget?
[14:39] <nikki___> I have a GeForce FX 5600 GPU. Nvidia says 173.14.xx is compatible with it, but when I try it, it causes horizontal artifacts. Using 71.86.xx works though. Can someone tell me how I can get 173.14.xx drivers to work? Thanks a lot!
[14:39] <isaw> Hello. Cany anyone help with a fragged upgrade of 8.1?
[14:39] <gpled> when do you think upgrades will start showing up in Synaptic for 8.04 to 8.10 ?
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: using vim - a text editor
[14:39] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I have a Marvell n/w card and  nforce card
[14:39] <lorenzo> hi, how do i unblock the keyring once and for all?
[14:39] <Frijolie> nikitis: yeah, IMO Pulse is haphazardly thrown in to Ubuntu
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I would hook in directly to the server using vim
[14:39] <toomai> nikki___: is there a particular reason you want the 173-driver?
[14:39] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: because I'm editing the server code I should technically be able to view the PHP code
[14:40]  * bboris chese
[14:40] <n8tuser> gpled-> next month?
[14:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:40] <vitamin-carrot> omg
[14:40] <stelt> Tyrath, aren't you looking into some server cache or something?
[14:40] <nikki___> toomai: I'm not sure really. I'm actually trying to get TF2 to work under Wine, but it seems that the old drivers wont let me.
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Try this and let us know of the results: scp username@hostname:/path/to/your/files/somefile.php .
[14:40] <Slart> Frijolie: and you've checked that no important volume controls are "hidden" by default in gnome-volume-control?
[14:40] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> can you do a fresh install?
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath
[14:40] <gpled> Hondo_Kitsune: you on 8.04 now?
[14:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: nope
[14:40] <Tyrath> Hondo_Kitsune: try updating your registries
[14:40] <isaw> my dog kicked out the power cord mid upgrade...  i am toast...
[14:40] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: it shows a eth0 and eth1; lines 535-537
[14:40] <slobad23> compiz is a mess - whenever i mouse over the window title bar, it all vanishes away :-S
[14:40] <Prometheus7777> hi, anyone knows how to make Audigy work in mode: 5.1 using pulseaudio? With alsa 5.1 works as expected
[14:40] <velko> csarven: i use sony vaio vgn fe 890 and have no complaints. sound, webcam, hibernation, screen dimming and sound muting all work. the blue fn keys and the volume up/down keys does not, but this is not a big deal for me
[14:40] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Replace the variables properly on the command above
[14:40] <toomai> nikki___: are you wine supports this?
[14:41] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> why not? you want more hair pulling session?
[14:41] <Hondo_Kitsune> gpled: yes i am on 8.04
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, looking,
[14:41] <vitamin-carrot> Hondo_Kitsune: you might want to consider a clean install ... especially if you have anyhting installed from getdeb
[14:41] <Hondo_Kitsune> vitamin-carrot: nothing from getdeb
[14:41] <andresj> is der a way to get a list of all applications (as listed in Applications > Add/Remove...) that are installed in my computer, to then reinstall them after a fresh install?
[14:41] <csarven> velko Thanks for the info.
[14:41] <prower> Finally confirmed (unfortunately), the final version of Intrepid has bricked my e1000e network chipset on my motherboard :<
[14:41] <Frijolie> slart: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[14:41] <mrunagi> i also get xauth: error on lockout or something
[14:41] <nikki___> toomai: Yes, it does.
[14:41] <Dorobo18jp> i am trying to edit a file in text editor but it will not let me save it at all can some one help out here
[14:41] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: It's supposed to download a copy of said file to the local directory and then you should be able to see it in vi
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported eth1: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[14:41] <Prometheus7777> is there a gui configurator for Pulse Audio?
[14:41] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, this is my mii-tool output
[14:42] <Slart> Frijolie: huh.. are you running regular ubuntu?
[14:42] <prower> If your network card is e1000e based i would strongly recommend against intrepid until they take another look into it
[14:42] <csarven> velko Others recommended netbook, ZaReason UltraLapSR
[14:42] <Hondo_Kitsune> gpled: i have tried upgrading from network and cd
[14:42] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: use ethtool instead of miitool
[14:42] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I have many problems I would like to ask about my n/w ,
[14:42] <Frijolie> Prometheus7777: glad to see that I'm not the only one having issues with PulseAudio
[14:42] <velko> csarven: hehehe - i have only one :-D
[14:42] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, like..
[14:42] <csarven> velko Need something to develop and games
[14:42] <Frijolie> slart: yes, I'm running a default install of Ubuntu (GNOME)
[14:42] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I don't think that's the way scp is supposed to be used. When I do that it merely gives me a list of scp 's commands
[14:43] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, if I unplug my ethernet cord and plug back in, link doesn't come up, even if i do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:43] <bboris> bye peoples thanks for helps
[14:43] <andresj> oh well. please PM if u kno the answer to my questions; i gotta go now. :-)
[14:43] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I will have to reboot
[14:43] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I should be able to just use wget anyway tho
[14:43] <Prometheus7777> Frijolie: yeah, everything works in pulse audio, exept subwoofer, and i don't know how to set this properly
[14:43] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> ubuntu per my experience does not handle i/o interrupt faults well
[14:43] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: and when I use wget and open the file in vim I get HTML
[14:43] <nikki___> toomai: Its ok, forget it. I'm gonna get a new computer soon, with a new graphics card, so I'll just reboot into Windows whenever I need to play it now. :)
[14:43] <Linc> oh,my god,so many guys
[14:43] <nikki___> Linc: Why? YOu a girl?
[14:44] <toomai> I am on Ubuntu 8.10, wine 1.1.7 installed, msttcorefonst installed, WoW shows fonts only a few seconds after login of a character then the fonts disappear...I am on a Lenovo x200 and Intel GMA x4500...anyone got an idea?
[14:44] <outbackwifi> dA_ShArP: thats funny; see dmesg when you do the plugout and plugin
[14:44] <dA_ShArP> n8tuser, can you quote me one of your experience?
[14:44] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That was an example of its usage. You need to replace my variables with your username on the server, then the fqdn for that server, then provide the path to one of this files on the server. It will prompt you for your password and then copy the file to your machine so that you can see it.
[14:44] <ljsoftnet> where does openoffice 3 icons located?
[14:44] <pronoy> i have the essential codecs package of mplayer i need to know them how to compile the .so files and put them in /usr/lib/codecs file....btw this file doesn't exist
[14:44] <mrunagi> can someone please help me x wont start
[14:44] <pronoy> i have the essential codecs package of mplayer i need to know them how to compile the .so files and put them in /usr/lib/codecs file....btw this file doesn't exist
[14:44] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> it does not handle i/o interrupts faults, it hangs the system often
[14:44] <Slart> Frijolie: do you have a little speaker on the gnome-panel where you can control the volume? if so right click it, select open volume control
[14:44] <Dorobo18jp> can some one help me with this error Could not save the file /usr/share/screenlets/Cl…/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py.
[14:44] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I tried scp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and it didn't work
[14:44] <n8tuser> dA_ShArP-> it does not handle i/o interrupts faults well*, it hangs the system often
[14:44] <dr_willis> pronoy,  why not use the w32codecs packages from medubunti repository?
[14:45] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: You can also enter the IP address instead of the FQDN of that server, of course.
[14:45] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, actually I didn;t use my other card , until I bough my new notebook
[14:45] <Frijolie> Slart, no I don't have the applet running on my gnome-panel
[14:45] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Do not type ftp. scp and ftp are different things
[14:45] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, my desktop is connected to internet
[14:45] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: that only proves you dont know the scp command; it is scp user@address.com:/path/to/remote/file localfile
[14:45] <Geckooooo> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu JeOS for the purposes of running vmware server and doing some 2:1 consolidations.  I'll be running this on a raid5 system w/intel matrix storage controller.  How can I get JeOS to notify me of a Raid5 failure or problem?
[14:46] <Slart> Frijolie: that's odd.. I thought it did that by default... have you uninstalled stuff from the system?
[14:46] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Try scp username@address.com:/path/to/your/files/somefile.php .
[14:46] <alanbshepard77> I installed Ibex and now I get the error Kernel Panic - Not syncing when I boot. I used to get this error with every release until hardy but now the error is back. How can I fix the computer if it won't even boot?
[14:46] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, I want to connect my laptop to my desktop and share internet something like that
[14:46] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: the server takes a password as well
[14:46] <pronoy> dr_willis: the problem is i have access to very little bandwidth right now...so i guess compilation would be the best option
[14:46] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, may be you can help me with that too?
[14:46] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: it will prompt you
[14:46] <Frijolie> slart: transmission, evolution, orca, ekiga, and...that's all I can remember
[14:46] <Tyrath> k
[14:46] <newk> compiz wil not work afta 8.10 upgrade
[14:46] <outbackwifi> !ics| dA_ShArP
[14:46] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: No need for it on this command line and not a good practice, in fact.
[14:47] <dr_willis> !info w32codecs
[14:47] <byhoo> hello
[14:47] <ljsoftnet> where does openoffice 3 icons located?
[14:47] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Although possible, it is not recommended since it will be logged into your shell history
[14:47] <Slart> Frijolie: evolution didn't bring lots of stuff with it when you uninstalled it?
[14:47] <pronoy> dr_willis: also can you guide me towards the correct samba package for hardy ?
[14:47] <dr_willis> pronoy,   no idea how big that w32codecs package is.. but i dont think its very large
[14:47] <Frijolie> ljsoftnet: there isn't OOo v3 in Intrepid..it's the older version 2.4.
[14:47] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I'm still getting just commands back
[14:47] <Geckooooo> Like... i need some kind of email notifcation to make this happen
[14:47] <dA_ShArP> outbackwifi, yay!
[14:48] <dr_willis> pronoy,  correct? I just install  the 'samba' and 'samba-doc' packages
[14:48] <Frijolie> slart: I can't imagine evolution taking sound down with it
[14:48] <Silvernotex> hello
[14:48] <Tyrath> hi
[14:48] <Silvernotex> lol happy halloween =P
[14:48] <pronoy> dr_willis: any way i can get their .deb packages ?
[14:48] <Silvernotex> lol <--- ubuntu new person >.>
[14:48]  * Tyrath is seriously contemplating rolling back to hardy considering ibex will refuse to let him see PHP code
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: ah.. it doesn't any more.. it used to remove lots and lots of stuff before.. well.. lets continue..
[14:49]  * outbackwifi would seriously advise Tyrath to do just that
[14:49] <Frijolie> slart: thanks for trying so hard to help me by the way
[14:49] <psusi> not let you see php code?  what you talking 'bout willis?
[14:49] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Nautilus supposedly lets you see external resources through SSH, kinda similar to the fish:// KIOSlave on Konqueror and then you should be able to open the files from the GUI with gvim or gedit. Would that work out for you?
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: try installing alsa-utils, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[14:49] <Silvernotex> Is it worth going from 8.04 to 8.10?
[14:49] <dr_willis> pronoy,  what deb?  their who? you can always grab .deb packages from the various ftp servers I  guess.. i just checked w32codecs - its 13 mb or so in size.
[14:49] <Slart> Frijolie: no worries.. I wouldn't be in this channel if I didn't want to help =)
[14:50] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I'm not familiar with Nautilus but that should be easy to accomplish...
[14:50] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I shouldn't have to. When an OS is upgraded it should provide additional functionality, not reduce functionality already present
[14:50] <n8tuser> Silvernotex-> read up on why you need to upgrade, what is the need?
[14:50] <toomai> I am on Ubuntu 8.10, wine 1.1.7 installed, msttcorefonst installed, WoW shows fonts only a few seconds after login of a character then the fonts disappear...I am on a Lenovo x200 and Intel GMA x4500...anyone got an idea?
[14:50] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: you are blaming your inefficiencies on the OS :)
[14:50] <Silvernotex> well, I dont see any need but..
[14:50] <Silvernotex> =/
[14:50]  * outbackwifi is reminded of "A bad workman blames his tools"
[14:50] <Silvernotex> i dl'd it and burned to a CD already.
[14:51] <Silvernotex> lol
[14:51] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I still fail to understand what the newest release could have done to prevent you from being able to see these files. Something tells me that there is something missing or not quite right on your workflow
[14:51] <Tyrath> outbackwifi: the thing is I did NOT have to do anything. I could simply just access PHP code using hardy. I can't using ibex
[14:51] <Silvernotex> just wondering wether or not to update =/
[14:51] <n8tuser> Silvernotex-> no one is twisting your arm, you can try and help troubleshoot upgrades perhaps
[14:51] <outbackwifi> Tyrath: i give up
[14:51] <dr_willis> Silvernotex,  just go for it...
[14:51] <kriston> Tyrath: That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
[14:51] <pronoy> dr_willis: i couldn't find the exact samba package on package.ubuntu.com and where do i download the w32codecs and how do i install them ?
[14:51] <Dorobo18jp> can some one help me out i am editing a .py file and for some reason i can save it or overwrite
[14:51] <Slart> !info gnome-volume-manager | Frijolie
[14:51] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I've downloaded all the updates and everything
[14:51] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Would you mind describing step by step what you used to do to reach those files?
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. nevermind.. I don't think that's it
[14:52] <dr_willis> pronoy,  medibuntu repository/servers have w32codecs.. download them and double click..  or use the command like  sudo dpkg -i  whatever.deb
[14:52] <Tyrath> kriston: well if I could show you what happens, you could see for yourself
[14:52] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: you are saving to a location that you dont have permission to write; do a gksu gedit your.py
[14:52] <Frijolie> slart: alsa-utils is already the newest version
[14:52] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Would you mind describing step by step what you used to do to reach those files?
[14:52] <dr_willis> pronoy,  as for samba. it proberly has several dependencies
[14:52] <Silvernotex> cool, I might just go update now lol
[14:52] <Silvernotex> brb!
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: ok.. gnome-media was the name of the package with the volume control
[14:52] <Slart> Frijolie: sudo apt-get install gnome-media
[14:52] <Shinobu> whoops
[14:52] <Frijolie> slart: I guess I was missing that one, because it's installing
[14:53] <Frijolie> slart: hth
[14:53] <dr_willis> pronoy,  http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20071007-0medibuntu3_i386.deb
[14:53] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I open up vim. I type, e: ftp://location.com/file.php . I enter my username. I enter my password. The php file opens but only shows HTML code
[14:53] <pronoy> dr_willis: damn ! ok i guess i will install the w32codecs....by the way anything you know about how to play rmvb files without real media player
[14:53] <Slart> Frijolie: ah..  then you should be able to run the volume control
[14:53] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Everything that you said so far leads me to believe that you're trying to open these files through HTTP. That will not work out no matter what. All that you get that way will be HTML.
[14:53] <Tom_Davis> hmmm ibex is confuzzled, says my hdd is scsi
[14:53] <dr_willis> pronoy,  nope.. i cant rember the last time i found a  rmvb file
[14:53] <abbas> hi
[14:53] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: ^ look at my last page. ftp://
[14:54] <Tyrath> page = post
[14:54] <dr_willis> Tom_Davis,  ide drives have been addressed with the sd## format for some time now. :)
[14:54] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: even hardy and feisty before that did that
[14:54] <abbas> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:54] <pronoy> dr_willis: thanks i'll get back to you if i have any other problem....i really have to find samba
[14:54] <outbackwifi> !hi | abbas
[14:54] <Linc> ...................so many people........................
[14:54] <Slart> abbas: please.. stop eating so much sugar.. calm down
[14:54] <Slart> abbas: =)
[14:54] <Tom_Davis> outbackwifi: I am installing hardy now, due to some problems with ibex, and it says ide
[14:54] <abbas> ok
[14:54] <dr_willis> Linc,  actually this is rahter low :)
[14:54] <nikitis> I'm back
[14:55] <Linc> oh,
[14:55] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: is it an ide or a sata disk?
[14:55] <Tom_Davis> ide laptop
[14:55] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: but DeadFishMan I can see what your reasoning is. It is as if when I try to access files using ftp requests it sends http requests
[14:55] <Tom_Davis> older than god's parents
[14:55] <Linc> good to learn English & Linux
[14:55] <outbackwifi> Tom_Davis: oh ok
[14:55] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: it is extremely odd
[14:55] <nikitis> Anyone know how to have the metacity look but using 3D effects?
[14:55] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: That's what I was thinking, yes.
[14:55] <Frijolie> slart: everything is not hidden and set to 100%
[14:55] <abbas> i whant Live Cd For Wireless Hacking
[14:55] <n8tuser> Tom_Davis-> ide are simulated as scsi  in ubuntu -- notice the /dev/sdX  as opposed to /dev/hdX
[14:55] <flemota> hello, i want to use envy but i cant
[14:56] <abbas> i want   Live Cd For Wireless Hacking
[14:56] <Tyrath> I'm suprised noone else seems to be facing the same issues. Does noone else develop web pages in a server side scripting language?
[14:56] <Tom_Davis> n8tuser: ok, just wondering hardy says ide ibex says scsi
[14:56] <the|Navigator> Hi, I'm having problems on update manager - It keeps claiming all the GPG keys are wrong for the servers
[14:56] <outbackwifi> !repeat | abbas
[14:56] <monk12> hello all, just curious. what does patch -p0 do. the manual makes it seem like filename isnt modified in patch. but when run inside "themodule_orig/", "themodule_orig/" from "+++ themodule_orig/components/file.inc", seems to be stripped so it can run relatively
[14:56] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I do occasionally, but I have never seen anything like that and I don't actually use Ubuntu at all :)
[14:56] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:56] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> what issue?
[14:56] <Tyrath> the|Navigator: my advice is not to use the update manager. use sudo-apt get update and upgrade instead
[14:56] <monk12> i would assume -p1 does that first strip up to that leading slash
[14:57] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I have intrepid
[14:57] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: I was just lurking and thought that I could be helpful
[14:57] <Linc> What's your IRC client,everybody ??
[14:57] <Slart> Frijolie: sigh.. and the volume for flash is very low? normal system sounds are lower than normal but not as low as flash?
[14:57] <outbackwifi> monk12: -p indicates patch level (a quick man patch will show you)
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I just want the odds and ends of updates
[14:57] <bingungajaa> why's my totem player get freeze everytime i try to play DVD ?
[14:57] <xukun> How can I get Network Manager to stop asking you for your keyring password?
[14:57] <monk12> yes i manned, but didnt understand it so much.
[14:57] <Tyrath> the|Navigator: you will get everything using apt
[14:57] <Slart> Linc: don't take polls here.. there is a bot in another channel for doing that
[14:57] <Slart> !best | Linc
[14:57] <darkvertex> !ot > Linc
[14:57] <abbas> i want programs hacker ubuntu
[14:57] <Tyrath> n8tuser: I can't see PHP in files I open off a webserver
[14:57] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> perhaps you can look at the looks  /var/log/messages for any clue?
[14:57] <the|Navigator> Tyrath: I'd prefer a GUI, and it still doesn't explain why all the GBG keys are borked.
[14:58] <the|Navigator> *GPG
[14:58] <Linc> you all speack too fast.
[14:58] <monk12> outbackwifi: the manual seems to indicate -p0 wouldnt strip anything from their example.
[14:58] <Linc> I can catch
[14:58] <Linc> I can't catch
[14:58] <Hondo_Kitsune> I am trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10, but it will not let me. It gives error "Could not calculate upgrade". I have tried upgrading from CD and from network. What can I do?
[14:58] <abbas> i want programs hacker ubuntu
[14:58] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> server scripting?  i thought you meant like jsp or java or xml..not php
[14:58] <monk12> outbackwifi: what exactly does it strip to? didnt understand 'pacth level'. sorry just need a little clarification.
[14:59] <velko> abbas: you don't make any sense
[14:59] <abbas> i want programs hacker ubuntu
[14:59] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : what do u mean ?
[14:59] <outbackwifi> monk12: that would not be a ubuntu question, you should ask in a developer channel :)
[14:59] <slayton> abbas, this isn;t the place go somewhere else
[14:59] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> you do like to pull your hair out..hehe, i suggest a fresh install but you dont want, so continue on
[14:59] <abbas> what
[14:59] <slayton> msg ubottu !help
[14:59] <monk12> k. sorry.
[14:59] <Frijolie> slart: yeah, flash--sometimes--is so low I can't hear it. However, even listening to music in Rhythmbox the volume is low enough to not be able to hear it 10ft away. Also while watching DVDs I have to sit right in front of the laptop in order to hear them
[14:59] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> perhaps you can look at the looks  /var/log/messages for any clue?  look in this file
[14:59] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I come here for help and this is all i get. you are supposed to help with problems not curcumvent them.
[14:59] <abbas> مافي احد عربي هنااا
[14:59] <magnetron> hi, i upgraded to intrepid but the notification icon for transmission diappeared. how do i get it back?
[15:00] <Slart> Frijolie: do you know what the onboard soundcard chip is called?
[15:00] <Tyrath> n8tuser: you don't need java or jsp to develop webpages. However if you are accessing data and sending data to a database you will need a server scripting language
[15:00] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> then dig up and start coding perhaps? this is not the channel for that
[15:00] <ingmar__> I cant get my wireless internet working... http://paste.ubuntu.com/65226/ I have the proprietary drivers, but its not showing up in network settings..
[15:00] <Linc> See you next time...
[15:00] <ingmar__> can anyone help me?
[15:00] <magnetron> !arabic | abbas
[15:00] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: this is a help channel and I am asking for help
[15:00] <Tyrath> n8tuser: if you've ever heard of dynamic web pages you will know what I'm talking about
[15:00] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi thank that did but i just lock up the screenlet app lol
[15:00] <Slart> Frijolie: "cat /proc/asound/cards" will give you a list of soundcards
[15:00] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : sorry ? come again ? what file ?
[15:00] <outbackwifi> magnetron: in preferences theres an option to show in system tray
[15:00] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: what did?
[15:01] <ingmar__> I cant get my wireless internet working... http://paste.ubuntu.com/65226/ I have the proprietary drivers, but its not showing up in network settings..
[15:01] <slayton> !wifi
[15:01] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> yes its a help channel, but no one yet fully understand what your issues are, so hang around longer and dont pester every five minutes, perhaps wait 30 mins or so
[15:01] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ in which tab?
[15:01] <ingmar__> Yes but i dont understand it
[15:01] <Frijolie> slart:  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[15:01] <Frijolie>                       HDA Intel at 0xf6300000 irq 22
[15:01] <outbackwifi> magnetron: edit
[15:01] <Dorobo18jp> i was editing the clearweatherscreenlet .py file as to the web instuctions and not locked it up and still dont work lol
[15:01] <Tyrath> !PHP
[15:01] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Why don't you try to open vim directly on the server? SSH your way into the server and the use it from there
[15:01] <n8tuser> Tyrath-> yes xml based -- look into cocoon2 if you want really bleeding edge
[15:01] <capricoRn> hi ! can anyone tell how i can improve my graphics , font effects on 8.10
[15:01] <ingmar__> bash: !wifi: event not found
[15:02] <capricoRn> secondly i want that apple desktop look
[15:02] <Hondo_Kitsune> capricoRn: buy a mac
[15:02] <abbas> الوووووو
[15:02] <abbas> i want programs hacker ubuntu
[15:02] <Hondo_Kitsune> capricoRn: Just kidding. go to ubuntu-look.org i think it is
[15:02] <outbackwifi> !wifi | ingmar_
[15:02] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. HDA Intel is a very common soundcard.. I have one too by.. shouldn't be a problem.. hang on.. let me think a minute here
[15:02] <bazhang> abbas, not here
[15:02] <Tyrath> n8tuser: xml is just meaningful HTML marked up using a CSS file
[15:02] <bazhang> !awn
[15:02] <abbas> where
[15:03] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ no, i mean which tab in the preferences? i see 5 tabs but non of them mention any icon
[15:03] <Tyrath> n8tuser: XML and HTML are static and are therefore limited in what they can achieve
[15:03] <JesperHansen> After the Upgrade I am missing the mouse management and the window management for which allows me to enable sloppy focus (focus follows mouse). What package provides the managers?
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you tried googling for you problem?  This was one of the first hits http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180411
[15:03] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi i followed theseinstctions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784053
[15:03] <pjKevin> update servers are really slow because of everyone getting 8.10 right?
[15:03] <outbackwifi> magnetron: in transmission, i dont get any tabs at all
[15:03] <DeadFishMan> For those using BitchX, just punch it in: /ignore abbas all
[15:03] <X3> where would be a good place to recruit some coders for a new project
[15:03] <flema_> #ubuntu-es
[15:03] <pjKevin> because i'm getting sloooooow downloads
[15:03] <Slart> pjKevin: yes.. try using a mirror
[15:03] <slayton> Seriously people if you haven't tried fixing your problems via GOOGLE first then you really shouldn't be here
[15:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: but i am updating to 8.10 not 6.056
[15:03] <magnetron> outbackwifi→ don't you have any tabs in your intrepid transmission preferences window?
[15:03] <slayton> B/C 99% of you problems have the solutions linked to google
[15:03] <Hondo_Kitsune> *6.06
[15:03] <Tom_Davis> !google
[15:03] <DeathWolf> -!- No results found
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes but the solution is probably related
[15:03] <velko> JesperHansen: i think that this is a feature of the window manager
[15:03] <pjKevin> k thnx
[15:03] <outbackwifi> magnetron: ah im still on hardy
[15:03] <n8tuser> Tyrath there is more to it, xml based does not mean only xml, other things like xsl and java, etc.. look into cocoon2 for an eye opening bleeding edge tech, it is apache supported
[15:03] <justyna> Hello
[15:03] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you tried to solution proposed by the thread?
[15:04] <thiebaude> capricoRn:check this out,http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin/
[15:04] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Please follow the instruction on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades carefully.
[15:04] <capricoRn> ok
[15:04] <the|Navigator> If I use SSH to access a system, is it possible to create a notification window (like with an OK button) on the user's computer?
[15:04] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: yeah, that will help with Ibex
[15:04] <justyna> I get wrong md5sum after download of 8.10 desktop i386 torrent
[15:04] <foorilious> after install intrepid but keeping my old .zshrc, when I recall a command from command history in zsh, the cursor is now placed at the beginning of the line.  How can I make it go back to placing it at the end of the line?
[15:04] <magnetron> hi, i upgraded to intrepid but the notification icon for transmission diappeared. how do i get it back?
[15:04] <JesperHansen> velko: yup. But I've missed the package that provides me the method to enable it.
[15:04] <Frijolie> slart: it's been this way ever since Hardy--it's nothing new, only worse, in Intrepid
[15:04] <DeadFishMan> Tyrath: Why don't you try to open vim directly on the server? SSH your way into the server and then use it from there. Isn't that an option?
[15:04] <justyna> What could be the reason?
[15:04] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune,  I know its from Dapper, but the issue is a rare one and its probably caused by the same bug... Have you tried the workaround yet?
[15:04] <Slart> Frijolie: can you do this for me, "dmesg | grep -i hda"
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: you mean, fresh install
[15:05] <Slart> Frijolie: and see if you find anything that looks like an error or warning
[15:05] <JesperHansen> velko: it was System>Preferences>Windows
[15:05] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> there are several steps you go through from 6.06 to 8.10 not worth the hazzle..
[15:05] <Trackilizer> Hi everyone. Just upgraded to 8.10 and the nvidia drivers are gone, and nothing shows up in "Hardware Drivers" how do i restore the drivers?
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I am goign from 8.04 to 8.10
[15:05] <X3> any coders here intersted in starting a new project
[15:05] <Hondo_Kitsune> n8tuser: I don;t have 6.06
[15:05] <magnetron> Trackilizer→ which graphics card you have?
[15:05] <n8tuser> Hondo_Kitsune-> okay
[15:05] <bazhang> X3, try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:05] <Slart> X3: post a message in the forums.. I think you'll get better answers
[15:05] <Frijolie> slart: [   14.216253] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
[15:05] <Frijolie> [   14.216286] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[15:05] <Frijolie> [  250.268644] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
[15:05] <Tyrath> n8tuser: nope. java is a sun technology. java is a lot more powerful a technology than XML. XML is only a markup language, java is a programming language. You can develop full working applications in java, if you achieve the same thing in XML I would be very impressed
[15:06] <thiebaude> !enter
[15:06] <X3> details are on http://tinyurl.com/6jblvu
[15:06] <X3> kk
[15:06] <Trackilizer> magnetron,  Geforce 9200
[15:06] <velko> Tyrath, n8tuser this is really offtopic, guys
[15:06] <LimCore> why kde apps seem to crash so often
[15:06] <n8tuser> Tyrath have you looked at what i suggeste ie  cocoon2? its an eye opener, come on get a taste of it, and tell me if xml base framework is really limited
[15:06] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, have you read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/146536
[15:06] <capricoRn> chrome is available for ubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:06] <kanuha> trying to boot up Ubuntu 8.10 on my 1080p tv, but when it comes up my tv says not supported mode
[15:07] <bazhang> !bugs | LimCore
[15:07]  * outbackwifi has decided not to upgrade for a month at least
[15:07] <magnetron> Trackilizer→ did you read what the release notes say about geforce 9200?
[15:07] <Rotlaus_> I've deleted some 'Meta Modes' in nvidia-settings. How can i get them back?
[15:07] <bazhang> capricoRn, no
[15:07] <capricoRn> ok
[15:07] <JesperHansen> Anyone noticed that System>Preferences>Windows is gone in 8.10?
[15:07] <Tyrath> velko: sorry. it's just I'm not finding a solution to my problem
[15:07] <bingungajaa> why is my totem always freeze when playing dvd (please see the screenshot http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png )
[15:07] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi any ideas ?
[15:07] <Slart> Frijolie: what's the name of the motherboard?
[15:07] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: sorry what was your issue again?
[15:08] <magnetron> JesperHansen→ "windows"? isn't that just the wine config tool? look in the wine category instead
[15:08] <Trackilizer> magnetron, no, what did they say? it wont work?
[15:08] <Dorobo18jp> may i pm you?
[15:08] <Frijolie> slart: I'm not sure, it's a Toshiba Satellite laptop
[15:08] <Tyrath> n8tuser: we've been asked to stop this discussion. Let's not continue. I suggest you wiki both technologies
[15:08] <magnetron> !notes | Trackilizer
[15:08] <keys> No System>Preferences>Windows is here on mine
[15:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: No help there
[15:08] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: i charge $40 for pm sessions :)
[15:08] <foorilious> after install intrepid but keeping my old .zshrc, when I recall a command from command history in zsh, the cursor is now placed at the beginning of the line.  How can I make it go back to placing it at the end of the line?
[15:08] <roffe> how do I get xserver-xgl? tha package cannot be found
[15:08] <roffe> how do I get xserver-xgl? tha package cannot be found
[15:08] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: thanks anyway
[15:08] <Dorobo18jp> lol ok you pm me lol
[15:09] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: I'm getting ssh: Could not resolve hostname
[15:09] <slayton> did you try: sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade?
[15:09] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: have you got a backup of your xorg.conf?
[15:09] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: thats a call back so itll be double for that
[15:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: that is not to perform a distribution upgrade tho
[15:09] <Dorobo18jp> lol
[15:09] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: it also screws up GNOME according to the page
[15:09] <Tyrath> DeadFishMan: and I know the file exists because if I load it up in HTML it does load up
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, ok well then I'd do a fresh install if I were you, and if you have a seperate /home partition you don't have to worry about losing your settings
[15:10] <roffe> Isn't xserver xgl available?
[15:10] <farfadet> #ubuntu fr
[15:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I don't have one as far as i am aware
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, just generate a list of installed packages
[15:10] <Dorobo18jp> ok i edited my ClearWeatherScreenlet.py file and was able to save per this fourm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=784053 and now the screentlet is locked up i cant remove it and still dont work
[15:10] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you have a /home dir
[15:10] <farfadet> how can i go on the french server?
[15:10] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: Yes, but it doesn't differ from my current. These resolution setting shown in nvidia-config are not there, anyway.
[15:10] <keys> The only problem I have had my nic eth1 failed to work wlan0 was ok
[15:10] <bazhang> farfadet, /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:10] <JesperHansen> magnetron: no. This thing is missing: http://vlsitechnology.org/html/livecd_help6.html
[15:10] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I do, but it is on my root partition as far as i am aware
[15:11] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, back up /home then when you re-install create a seperate partition for /home, this will make clean installs easier in the future
[15:11] <Guillem_> Is there any way to install g77 in Intrepid??? gcc-3.something is still there, but not g77 !!!
[15:11] <keys> Now for some reason "Good" all is working
[15:11]  * Tyrath is going to try the french channel as well to see if he can get a solution there
[15:11] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune,  its a little more work but its the best thing you could possibly do, I was a little apprehensive about creating a /home partition but it was the greatest thing I did
[15:11] <CheezeDoodle> Hi, is anyone familiar with Octoshape? It's a streaming client.
[15:11] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. there's an old fix that seems to have helped some people with toshiba laptops..I'm not sure it will help you but it ought to be a quick solution if it works
[15:11] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: what metamodes options that was deleted?
[15:11] <jrib> CheezeDoodle: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[15:11] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I will lose all my software and configs for the software. I recently did a clean install and I am not doing it again. It should be SIMPLE to upgrade. Isn't that a PLUS POINT of Ubuntu anyway.
[15:12] <aedh> Hello everyone.  I was wondering, why do I have to run fglrxinfo, or glxinfo as root?  I keep getting some Xreply assertion error.
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can somebody tell me how long can take uppgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 on adsl 512kbps?
[15:12] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, it will save you a lot of pain, you can do clean installs, have several different distros installed and they can all share a common /home partition
[15:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> AKADEMIK2283MCZ: Very ver very long
[15:12] <Slart> Frijolie: it involves adding a line to the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and doing a reboot
[15:12] <squidly> AKADEMIK2283MCZ: a while
[15:12] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, couple of hours
[15:12] <squidly> I'm on a 300M connection at work and it still took me a couple of hours
[15:12] <Frijolie> slart: i'm willing to do whatever it takes
[15:12] <n8tuser> AKADEMIK2283MCZ-> 740 megs is a long download specially if the servers are very busy
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> but downloading alternate disk
[15:12] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: can you pastebin the .py that you edited?
[15:12] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, what about my software installed and software configs. Wallpaper, themes, all the stuff that is kept in random places in /
[15:12] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes that is a plus point, but think about it this way... right now something is broken, its unclear what is broken but something IS broken, its preventing you from doing the clean upgrade. Doing a clean fresh install will do 2 things
[15:12] <Skriptkid> hi
[15:12] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> is can take also long
[15:13] <Dorobo18jp> yes wait one
[15:13] <Slart> Frijolie: ok, "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base"
[15:13] <squidly> i;m hainvg an issue removing linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, it will get rid of what is broken and also it will allow you to create a /home partition
[15:13] <Skriptkid> Please can any one help me
[15:13] <squidly> It keeps crashing out
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> i downloaded 8.10 instalation
[15:13] <outbackwifi> !please| Skriptkid
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, all of the personalizations should be saved under /home
[15:13] <bazhang> ask Skriptkid
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can i use this
[15:13] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: In nvidia-settings i go on 'X Server Display Configuration, go on to X-Screen, click on Advanced aMetaModes.nd the there are these
[15:13] <roffe> if I write a script, how can I make it update itself every 25 seconds?
[15:13] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, yes
[15:13] <Slart> Frijolie: at the end of that file, add the line     options snd-hda-intel model=auto     then save and exit, reboot
[15:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I will check my partition setup
[15:13] <squidly> anyone know how I can force the removal of that package
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you shouldn't save anything except under /home
[15:13] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> can you tell me how?
[15:13] <outbackwifi> roffe: in crontab
[15:13] <dr_willis> roffe,  clarify what you mean.
[15:13] <flam> roffe, use cron?
[15:13] <n8tuser> roffe-> there is #bash to get help on scripting
[15:13] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, besides to write outside of /home you need root privledges
[15:13] <Hondo_Kitsune> er, what is the command to access the partition manager?
[15:14] <bazhang> AKADEMIK2283MCZ, md5 the iso, burn to cd at low speed then do the disk integrity check
[15:14] <npnux> hi
[15:14] <dr_willis> roffe,  if you want the script to re-run every 24 sec or so.. theres the 'watch' command.
[15:14] <bazhang> !md5 | AKADEMIK2283MCZ
[15:14] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: some things needed to be sudoed into place. /home does not store everything
[15:14] <Slart> Hondo_Kitsune: gparted
[15:14] <Frijolie> slart: just like Ahnuld Swartzineger: "I'll be back"
[15:14] <Slart> Frijolie: good luck =)
[15:14] <roffe> a lot of answers there :) dr_willis: how do I use that command?
[15:14] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> i dont understand
[15:14] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, i totally understand your pain... doing clean installs sucks under windows, but once you setup a home partition you'll never think of clean installs again in the same way, they are quick, easy and painless... I've switched distributions without a blink because I had a dedicated /home partion
[15:14] <n8tuser> roffe-> there is #bash to get help on scripting
[15:15] <dr_willis> roffe,  try 'watch --help' and 'man watch' for starters
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, what kind of stuff are you saving outside of /home? and why?
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, I can't think of any programs that save user data anywhere else?
[15:15] <dr_willis> roffe,  you are not being clear on what you are doing exactly :)
[15:15] <Skriptkid> please can any one help me
[15:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: mainly software and Its config
[15:15] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: In nvidia-settings i go on 'X Server Display Configuration, go on to X-Screen, click on Advanced and then there are these Metamodes where i can select resolutions.
[15:15] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: OK, but did anything wrong  happened that was caused the removal of those metamode value?
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, unless you've installed things from souce
[15:15] <slayton> source
[15:15] <Slart> roffe: "watch ls" will run ls every 2 seconds I think and show you the result.. change that as needed
[15:15] <jrib> Skriptkid: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[15:15] <velko> Skriptkid: you haven't asked anything
[15:15] <sisseck> Could anyone tell me where the boot settings for ubuntu are located? Im using a dual boot with xp and want the computer to start xp as default
[15:15] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, so the config files _should_ be saved under /home/$USER/.program
[15:15] <jrib> sisseck: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:15] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: for instance Konversation, where does it keep it's config, it took hours to setup because I have many irc networks and channels
[15:15] <squidly> sisseck: /boot/grub
[15:15] <Dorobo18jp> outback i justpmedyou dontcharge me to much
[15:16] <roffe> ok.. thanks guys! dr_willis: I need to make a scipt that updates every 25th second for my crappy graphics card that otherwise will go into low performance
[15:16] <slayton> sisseck, /boot/grub/menu.lst or something like that
[15:16] <AKADEMIK2283MCZ> is it beter to sacrifice one more night to download alternate ubuntu disc?
[15:16] <Dorobo18jp> ok 'http://xoap.weather.com/weather/local/17068?cc=*&dayf=10&prod=xoap&link=xoap&par=1003666583&key=41 28909340a9b2fc&unit=s&hbhf=12
[15:16] <Skriptkid> Any one knows about certified Ethical hacker? by EC-Council?
[15:16] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I tried to remove the setting my monitor doesn't support, because a game i wanna play doesn't start because my monitor goes out of sync.
[15:16] <greggman> hello..how to load manually nic that just added
[15:16] <dr_willis> roffe,  your use of the term 'updates' is vague. :)
[15:16] <squidly> Skriptkid: yea its a joke
[15:16] <bazhang> Skriptkid, that is offtopic here
[15:16] <squidly> Skriptkid: #security
[15:16] <dr_willis> roffe,  but 'watch' is a handy tool to know about
[15:16] <AgentScorpion> How do I change the list of download servers in System > Administration > Software Sources > Download From...
[15:16] <bingungajaa> why is my totem always freeze when playing dvd (please see the screenshot http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png )
[15:16] <AgentScorpion> Is there a config file somewhere controlling the list?
[15:16] <Skriptkid> Sorry for that
[15:16] <berosford> Anyone know if iPod Touch works under Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:16] <slayton> Here is all that I can recommend, back up everything.... create a seperate /home partition, and use that in the future for all config files
[15:17] <bazhang> !home
[15:17] <Skriptkid> but i need to know whether a 20 year old guy can do that course?
[15:17] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> have you looked yet in /var/log/messages for clues or hints?
[15:17] <velko> AgentScorpion: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:17] <jrib> berosford: you can't sync with it because the hashing algorithm for the ItunesDB file has not been discovered yet
[15:17] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I also have a large number of external repositories
[15:17] <berosford> Ah right
[15:17] <slayton> !offtopic | Skriptkid
[15:17] <bazhang> Skriptkid, this is ubuntu support
[15:17] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: what kind of card are you using?
[15:17] <jrib> berosford: on firmware > 2.0 anyway
[15:17] <roffe> dr_willis: the script will take it to high performance and if I don't update it it will go into low performance :( But thanks I'll check it out
[15:17] <AgentScorpion> velko: That just seems to list the repositries, not the main download servers
[15:17] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : sorry, i'd ask u, what file do u mean, i don't understand
[15:17] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: that link works just fine in a browser so that cant be the issue :)
[15:17] <Skriptkid> Im using ubuntu
[15:17] <Skriptkid> I got a problem
[15:17] <berosford> jrib, does that mean that there's no way at all of copying music over to it?
[15:17] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
[15:18] <velko> AgentScorpion: sorry, don't know
[15:18] <Skriptkid> Every thing is closing by itself
[15:18] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> have you looked yet in /var/log/messages for clues or hints?  <-- can you comprehend this or not at all?
[15:18] <squidly> Skriptkid: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html
[15:18] <htrejh> hi
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, like 3rd party repo;s you've added? not an issue backup your sources.d/ and sources and get apt to generate a list of installed packages, then re-install them after the update
 thank you
[15:18] <htrejh> i accidentaly began to format my home partitiob
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, its probably the 3rd party repos that are breaking your upgrade
[15:18] <jrib> berosford: well you can copy music to it, but you won't be able to play it (jailbreak and ssh).  Your options that I know of are to use itunes in a virtual machine (you can try wine too)
[15:18] <htrejh> how can i try to recover some files?
[15:18] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi if there are 2 of those lines should i edit both or just the one from the website
[15:18] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I disabled them all and it is still broken
[15:18] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : not i'm not looked at the file cause i don't know what file ... a little clue please
[15:18] <jrib> !recover | htrejh
[15:18] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, when you upgrade APT looks for intrepid version of the hardy debs if the repos don't have them then apt doesn't know what to do
[15:19] <aedh> I got the new ati driver, but now I have to run all GL  apps as root.  Why?  How can I fix it?
[15:19] <berosford> Thanks very much
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, right but the hardy debs are still installed
[15:19] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> /var/log/messages
[15:19] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: let me check, you might have to edit/create edid.bin file to remove unwanted resolutions
[15:19] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: there  should only be one line take outr the othe
[15:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: yeah, so i should change my repos from hardy to intrepid
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, and the packages need to be removed and then re-installed
[15:19] <outbackwifi> Dorobo18jp: there  should only be one line take out the other
[15:19] <Dorobo18jp> ok
[15:19] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> please read a tutorial on linux -- how to use log files
[15:19] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: do you think doing that would work?
[15:19] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, honestly no I would do a clean install.... it sounds like a lot of work but I PROMISE it will save you time... its going to be a nightmare to upgrade all the packages
[15:20] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : ok, brb
[15:20] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I have deleted them in nvidia-setting, i want them back, because i deleted the wrong one.
[15:20] <Frijolie> slart: i'm testing it...
[15:20] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, where as if you do a clean install you can create the /home which I CAN"T EMPHASIZE enough (if you haven't figured that out yet ;-) )
[15:20] <DeadFishMan> To the person asking how to send a GUI message to someone else logged into his/her system, try kdialog --display :0 --msgbox "Your message here". The catch is that due to the way how X is setup in most distros, sometimes not even root can connect to a X session from other user, so this has to be issued using that person's user account (either through sudo or su should work ok)
[15:20] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, i have a 40gb hdd, so having a separate /home would really bugger things up for me
[15:20] <Dorobo18jp> outcackwifi i just pmed youed the actual code
[15:20] <Dorobo18jp> oops outbackwifi
[15:20] <slayton> do you have a CD burner? Ipod? External HDD?
[15:21] <slayton> DVD Bung[Linux]
[15:21] <slayton> DVD Burner?
[15:21] <slayton> !home
[15:22] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: your xorg.conf file you're currently using, it created by nvidia-settings? do you still have the original one made by ubuntu install?
[15:22] <Frijolie> slart: can't really tell a difference
[15:22] <kanuha> trying to boot up Ubuntu 8.10 on my 1080p tv, but when it comes up my tv says not supported mode. is there a command to boot 720 or 1080?
[15:23] <Slart> Frijolie: ok.. not surprising since this fix was from over a year ago.. but there's more stuff to try.. have a look at this webpage http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt
[15:23] <seclm193> if I had ubuntu 8.10 beta, do i need to reinstall or something
[15:23] <gil> what would you guys pay for an EN7950 GT 512mb?
[15:23] <bazhang> seclm193, just keep update to final
[15:23] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, either path you chose to take will be a lot of work (using non supported repos really mucks things ups, and for the most part should be avoided)  but I'm guessing that the odds of the auto-upgrade working are less then 50% the odds of the clean install working are 100%
[15:23] <sisseck> Thanks for the boot help, second question. What package do i need to install to get advanced settings for desktop effects. Running clean install of 8.10
[15:23] <Slart> Frijolie: search for "snd-hda-intel"
[15:23] <bazhang> gil, ask in ##hardware not here
[15:23] <ikonia> gil: try ##hardware
[15:23] <ikonia> bazhang: too quick
[15:23] <seclm193> bazhang, how do i update to final
[15:23] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, I'm not trying to be a prick or a jerk, its just what I've learned through painful experience
[15:24] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: upgrade is supposed to work, i really don't want to clean install
[15:24] <mystery> Hello Everyone
[15:24] <bazhang> seclm193, sudo apt-get update   then sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:24] <amikrop_> Hello. Audacious 1.5.1 has a very serious bug, not playing the music file the user double clicked on, but playing an old playlist. This bug has been fixed in next versions of Audacious, so I really believe, the Ubuntu team should package an update for 1.5.1, as soon as possible.
[15:24] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I just don't have the time
[15:24] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: depending on the state of your system when you upgraded it can cause problems
[15:24] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: the betas had some issues
[15:24] <seclm193> bazhang, thanks
[15:24] <squiddy> hi.. is it okay if i use interpid repo on hardy ?
[15:24] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:24] <NET||abuse> hi all, anyone know if it's possible to just sync podcasts on the iphone 3g from ubuntu? without hacking the iphone?
[15:24] <DeadFishMan> Gotta go eat something
[15:24] <bazhang> squiddy, no
[15:24] <gil> sory
[15:24] <n8tuser> slayton i tried to convince him several times, but...he choosed to continue on..some people are just...
[15:24]  * DeadFishMan waves good bye
[15:24] <ikonia> NET||abuse: iphone = no
[15:24] <gil> wrong board
[15:24] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, yes it is SUPPOSED to work, I've only seen it work reliably 1 time... From what you've explained to me the getting the upgrade to work will probably take twice as much time as the clean install
[15:24] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: No, it's already gone. The current and the backup are both form nvidia-settings. Can i restore the Ubuntu one?
[15:24] <bingungajaa> n8tuser : read the /message, so what actually i'm looking for ?
[15:24] <squiddy> bazhang, how come ?
[15:25] <n8tuser> bingungajaa-> please read a tutorial on linux -- how to use log files
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, Normal upgrades take longer then clean installs
[15:25] <NET||abuse> ikonia: damn... can your un itunes with wine and do it?
[15:25] <amikrop_> Hello. Audacious 1.5.1 has a very serious bug, not playing the music file the user double clicked on, but playing an old playlist. This bug has been fixed in next versions of Audacious, so I really believe, the Ubuntu team should package an update for 1.5.1, as soon as possible. Is there any progress about this?
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, normally about 3-4 hours
[15:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: well, i will check if i have a /home partition then
[15:25] <violinappren> hi all, trying to install (kubuntu) intrepid, install now hanged on "starting acpi services" while booting, is that a known issue?
[15:25] <ikonia> meff: dp#tlmpw
[15:25] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I have the cd
[15:25] <ikonia> NET||abuse: don't know
[15:25] <Geckooooo> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu JeOS for the purposes of running vmware server and doing some 2:1 consolidations.  I'll be running this on a raid5 system w/intel matrix storage controller.  How can I get JeOS to notify me of a Raid5 failure or problem?
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, you probably don't but you do have a /home folder
[15:25] <bazhang> squiddy, it will break things. dont even try
[15:25] <jedimindtrick> for some reason my ssh daemon doesnt seem to be running on this box, i thought its supposed to start automagically? i need an idea as to what its called and how to run it please?
[15:25] <slayton> !home | Hondo_Kitsune
[15:25] <NET||abuse> ikonia: i'll try and let you know.
[15:25] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that explains how to create a /home partition
[15:25] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:25] <Slart> Frijolie: it's on line 1215
[15:25] <lopin> Okay.  Quick question.  I may have to install Ibex, rather than upgrade, cause I have that nasty ATI driver bug.  I need the Build-essential package to compile my wireless drivers from source.  I need some way to download build-essential, and it's dependencies, for Intrepid.  I've already got APTonCD, so if that can help, then awesome.  Anyone have any ideas?
[15:25] <squiddy> bazhang, ok thanks
[15:25]  * ThipThip is having serious issues installing on a 250GB Hard Drive
[15:26] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: nom you cannot restore, but if you're using Hardy, I have a copy that I can paste iin paste bin.
[15:26] <ikonia> lopin: plug a cable in and download
[15:26] <newk> jus upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and compiz not workign
[15:26] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex:  I'm on Intrepid
[15:26] <slayton> lopin, you can download the debs from the internet, save them on the thumbdrive and then install them with : sudo dpkg -i <program>.deb
[15:26] <bazhang> newk, compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[15:26] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: looks like running that could really screw up
[15:26] <lopin> ikonia, Not an option. This laptop only has Wireless Connectivity, and is going to be doing internet sharing for every other computer I have access to.
[15:27] <ThipThip> So I installed Ubuntu on a 250GB hard drive, everything went fine.  However, when I rebooted, I got GRUB Error 18.  No problem, I installed again, this time putting a 10MB /boot partition at the beginning of the drive.  Now, I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)"
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, either way you've got your self in a bad position
[15:27] <mystery> I have been trying to to update my system from 8.04 to 8.10. My first attempt resulted in my computer freezing and me having to restart without it completing the upgrade. Now that I have restarted I cant upgrade my system. I get an error "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible"
[15:27] <Frijolie> slart: how do I know that one is mine?
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, and getting out is going to take time and be painful
[15:27] <ikonia> lopin: your using a wirles only laptop as a device for internet sharing
[15:27] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi doyou want me to send you the .py file ?
[15:27] <mystery> can someone please help
[15:27] <ikonia> lopin: what model laptop is it
[15:27] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: how is it my fault that ubuntu screwed up like it is not supposed to
[15:27] <Frijolie> slart: it first pointed to line 739
[15:27] <mikejet> What is this new "Debian base-system miscellaneous files" Security Update. I don't see it on the webpage list.
[15:27] <lopin> slayton, build-essential has a lot of dependencies, as it's only a meta-package (?).  Is there a simple way to download all of the dependencies in one fell swoop?
[15:27] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, If I were you I'd find an ipod, external HDD to back up too, copy over your entire HDD and then do a complete clean install
[15:27] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: what issue are you actually having
[15:28] <Hondo_Kitsune> ikonia: Trying to run a distribution upgrade, but it won't let me
[15:28] <lopin> ikonia, Acer Aspire 5050.  I have to use the new Madwifi HAL to get the wireless working, henceforth why I have to build it from source.
[15:28] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: well, there is the option of creating edid.bin from nvidia-settings. Create that now and save it somewhere. Then edit it using a hex tool.
[15:28] <exibo> i need help with getting windows added into bootloader menu. fdisk -l and gparted are saying different things
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, by installing 3rd party repos you've taken yourself outside the supported realm of ubuntu, you are no longer a position they consider when upgrading
[15:28] <mystery>  I have been trying to to update my system from 8.04 to 8.10. My first attempt resulted in my computer freezing and me having to restart without it completing the upgrade. Now that I have restarted I cant upgrade my system. I get an error "not all updates can be installed, run a partial upgrade to install as many updates as possible" can someone please help me get upgraded to 8.10
[15:28]  * ThipThip needs some GRUB love.
[15:28] <ikonia> Hondo_Kitsune: what do you mean it won't let me, can you be a bit more detailed
[15:28] <jedimindtrick> for some reason i seem to be missing sshd ... how would i get that ?
[15:28] <velko> ThipThip: what is the layout of this disk (which partitions)? is this the first hdd (hda) or something else?
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, upgrades are supported for supported systems which your system isn't
[15:28] <bazhang> !grub | exibo
[15:28] <Slart> Frijolie: ah, my bad
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that is what happens when you use 3rd party repos
[15:28] <ikonia> ThipThip: just ask the question instead of random /me commands
[15:28] <bazhang> exibo, see the first link
[15:28] <NicEXE> I have just upgraded my Ubuntu installation to 8.10 but the sound comes out like noise clicks (using ALSA) Whats wrong?
[15:28] <sisseck> mystery: cant you just do a fresh install of ubuntu?
[15:28] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, which by the way could contain malicious software
[15:28] <Slart> Frijolie: it's line 739
[15:29] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I'll just check my second machine for the original xorg.conf
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: how are you on the internet now ?
[15:29] <mystery> I dont want to loose my files
[15:29] <Slart> Frijolie: you see there are a gazillion different models?
[15:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: right FINE.  I hope to hell my Konversation config is unaffected, it is the important thing
[15:29] <tony__> I have a question about installing from a USB drive
[15:29] <exibo> bazhang: i had windows installed first
[15:29] <mker> How can I make Vuze (in classic mode so it acts like Azureus) download everything file order, not spread out all over?
[15:29] <lopin> ikonia, I'm on Hardy.  I've already built the drivers for this kernel.
[15:29] <mikejet> What webpage lists the official security updates? I'm not convinved today's is legit - there's no file info in the description.
[15:29] <ThipThip> velko:  It is the first hard drive.  The layout is, in this order:  /boot - 10MB, / - 249GB, swap - 1GB
[15:29] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, if you back it up then you don't have to worry about it
[15:29] <exibo> bazhang: and ubuntu screwed my windows partition im afraid
[15:29] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, Always back up before messing with partitions
[15:29] <tony__> Can you only do that with the 'low power' architectures, or can you install from a usb drive with any image
[15:29] <bazhang> exibo, what happened to grub?
[15:29] <Bit_Breaker> Hello all
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: how did you do that for hardy ?
[15:29] <Slart> Frijolie: try running lspci in a terminal to see a list of all your connected devices.. see if you can find the audio chip there
[15:29] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: that would be MUCH better, since then you wouldn't have to mess around with edid.bin
[15:29] <aedh> where can I find help for the fglrx driver? thank you.
[15:29] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: I cannot back it up, i do not have a clue where konversation keeps it's damn config
[15:29] <lopin> ikonia, Hard line to the interwebs is in my roommate's room.  He's left, and I can't get in to get a connection.
[15:29] <ikonia> lopin: just trying to understand why you can't do what you did for hardy for interipd
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: ive got two hard drives
[15:30] <bpgoldsb> Anyone here using preseeding with a partitioning scheme, who can post [some of] their preseed configuration file for me?
[15:30] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, didn't you edit it?
[15:30] <Slart> Frijolie: you might be able to do "lspci | grep -i audio" to get a smaller list
[15:30] <velko> ThipThip: and boot is hda1, / is hda2 and swap hda3?
[15:30] <Bit_Breaker> i have recently had trouble with my display settings. Ubuntu 8.04.
[15:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Konversation is an irc client
[15:30] <Bit_Breaker> v2.6-24-21
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: ive installed ubuntu on the second, clear hd
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: and when i tried to reboot after installation
[15:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: you do the editing in the program itself
[15:30] <bazhang> exibo, where is the mbr
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: mbr?
[15:30] <sisseck> mystery: could create a backup, depends on how much data you need to save. Other than that i dont know how to get the updater to work again
[15:30] <Dorobo18jp> O an outbackwifi in case i boot myself from chat thanks for the help :)
[15:30] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, ~/.kde/ is where the config files are saved ~ is /home!
[15:30] <exibo> bazhang: im afraid the grub installed to the windows hd
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: right
[15:31] <Bit_Breaker> I  had to manually change my display settings after a reboot. Can anyone help?
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> Also, I don't have gparted
[15:31] <MaxFrames> hello, please help, I've upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and lost sound completely
[15:31] <ThipThip> velko:  You know, for some reason, and I'm not sure why, it made boot hda1, / hda5, and swap hda6
[15:31] <lopin> ikonia, I have Build-Essential for Hardy.  Have that on APTonCD even.  However, when I do the upgrade, I have this nasty bug that keeps X from starting.  So, I was going to do a fresh install, so that FGLRX doesn't get involved.  However, without an internet connection to get build-essential, I can't get on the internet.  See the paradox?
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, backing up /home will protect ALL your settings, unless you installed software that is written by a retarted person that doesn't understand how to save configurations files in linux
[15:31] <bazhang> exibo, then read that link the bot gave you to fix it
[15:31] <exibo> bazhang: cuz i get grub errors even when i have my windows hard drive connected
[15:31] <exibo> bazhang: ok
[15:31] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: so, just backup my home folder, format then put it back
[15:31] <painter> quit
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, EVERY single program I've ever used has saved under /home
[15:31] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: the xorg.conf on the second machine is about 11 Lines long, does that seem right?
[15:31] <ikonia> lopin: I most certainly do
[15:31] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, pretty much that should do it!
[15:31] <lopin> ikonia, If I could force build-essential into the iso, then I could do it.  You would think that the alternate iso would have it, right?
[15:31] <velko> ThipThip: i suppose right now you are on the problematic machine and are using the live cd?
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: but one more thing
[15:32] <ikonia> lopin considered downloading the dvd install ?
[15:32] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: Unfortunately, that will leave a lot of crap lying around because of software that is not installed anymore
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: gparted tells me that the windows hard drive is like all empty, and it is ext3
[15:32] <slayton> lopin, you could add the intrepid repos to your sources.list, then do apt-get install build-essential -d which will download but not install the packages
[15:32] <ThipThip> velko:  No, the problematic machine is a laptop, I'm on my desktop
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: fdisk -l tells me that it is ntfs
[15:32] <mr_polite> when running Advanced Desktop Effects but _not_ Emerald, an unfocused window will have a semi transparent window border. Can teh same semi-transparent effect be had on focused windows without running Emerald?
[15:32] <bazhang> exibo, that is not good
[15:32] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, what do you mean? that crap is already there, no new crap will be created
[15:32] <exibo> bazhang: :/
[15:33] <rapha> Hi all!
[15:33] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_: yes, as long as these is something link the following at the top line: # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
[15:33] <lopin> slayton, that seems like exactly what I need.  I was just kind of afraid of breaking stuff with that one.
[15:33] <velko> ThipThip: do you have access to it? are you comfortable with the command line?
[15:33] <TJ-42> is there a guide that talks about the ubuntu keyring?  I can
[15:33] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: If i backup home, format then put home back. there will be configs for programs that do not exist anymore
[15:33] <TJ-42> 't figure out how it works
[15:33] <ThipThip> velko: Yes to both.
[15:33] <wilhelmb> is it normal that ktorrent uses 1.0 gig of memory? (8.05)
[15:33] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, that doesn't matter, you can delete them
[15:33] <wilhelmb> is it normal that ktorrent uses 1.0 gig of memory? (8.04)
[15:33] <lopin> ikonia, Completely forgot about the DVD install.  However, that would end up taking forever to download...  but, thanks!  :D
[15:33] <rapha> I just installed 8.10 - what happened to SSH? Public key authentication does not work anymore!
[15:33] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, they only take up a few mb of space
[15:33] <bazhang> wilhelmb, no
[15:33] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: ok then
[15:33] <mikejet> How often do you guys download updates? 8.10 is working great here on adm64 / 2cpu.
[15:33] <ikonia> lopin: it's only 2 gig, just double the cd install
[15:33] <darkvertex> Rotlaus_:  link - like :(
[15:33] <bazhang> wilhelmb, try transmission
[15:33] <Pici> !doesntwork | rapha
[15:33] <rapha> I always get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" :-(
[15:33] <Slart> mikejet: once a day
[15:34] <npnux> hi help me for 8.10 dvr card programing pls
[15:34] <elementz> updated to ibex, now my trackpoint on x61 does not have scrolling anymore! updated the fdi config, but that didnt help. anybody got it working in here, or willing/able to help?
[15:34] <ikonia> mikejet: how often you update depends on your setup
[15:34] <MaxFrames> hello, please help, I've upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and lost sound completely
[15:34] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: ok, here goes, starting backup
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, again I'm sorry you're in this position but trust me when I say its worth it
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, good luck!
[15:34] <npnux> hi help me for 8.10 dvr card programing pls
[15:34] <Frijolie> slart: sorry I was AFK for a bit...lemme run lspci
[15:34] <mikejet> Slart: How do you know that today's update is legit? It's not even listed on the security updates webpage.
[15:34] <exibo> bazhang: hmm
[15:34] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, come back here if you need help, if I'm not around there will be other people who are more the knowledgeable who can help you
[15:34] <Slart> Frijolie: no worries
[15:34] <bazhang> MaxFrames, check sound preferences and set to alsa; also try alsamixer in terminal
[15:34] <velko> ThipThip: then my suggestion is to boot the live cd on the laptop, chroot to the broken install, and run update-grub in order regenerate /boot/grub/menu.lst and (eventually) to reinstall grub to mbr
[15:34] <rapha> Pici: "does not work" means that despite of me using the ~/.ssh directory from my previous 8.04 installation, I cannot use public key authentication with SSH for some reason I don't know unfortunately
[15:35] <lopin> ikonia, The DVD only has additional language packs...  :C
[15:35] <bazhang> npnux, for mythtv?
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: after getting that errors from grub, after installing ubuntu, ive disconnected the windows hdd and installed ubuntu on that other drive
[15:35] <Slart> mikejet: "legit"? I've just set it to download updates once a day and apply security fixes right away
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: seems that i have 2 grubs now
[15:35] <ikonia> lopin no, it has more packages on
[15:35] <wilhelmb> bazhang: yeah but i like ktorrent, do you know what could do
[15:35] <mikejet> ralpha: MAke sure the .ssh directory is not publically readable.  Do "chmod go-r .ssh".
[15:35] <Frijolie> slart: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:35] <ThipThip> velko: What do you reckon is the cause of this problem? (I'm booting the live cd now)
[15:35] <HK_PC> slayton: I am here on my pc
[15:35] <bazhang> wilhelmb, I would file a bug, and check launchpad for any bug workarounds
[15:35] <exibo> bazhang: one on the mdr on the windows drive and the other on the root
[15:35] <MaxFrames> bazhang: sound preferences only show "default" as device
[15:35] <bazhang> !bugs | wilhelmb
[15:35] <Slart> Frijolie: hmm.. ok..
[15:36] <E-XtraCt> /w $me
[15:36] <bazhang> exibo, is it still a dual boot or not
[15:36] <abbas> java
[15:36] <clint_> Anyone else sound not work in thier browser after the upgrade?
[15:36] <exibo> bazhang: what does it mean?
[15:36] <bazhang> abbas, what is your question
[15:36] <velko> ThipThip: grub is controlled by a config file. the layout of the hard disk changed. grub is no longer able to find the files it needs in order to boot
[15:36] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: On my second machine in the xorg.conf comments is the command to build the original one with dpkg-reconfigure
[15:36] <hardcorelamer> anyone know how to install vim that has copy/paste and multiple buffer support on ubuntu-server 8.04 ?
[15:36] <MaxFrames> bazhang: alsamixer gives error
[15:36] <mikejet> Sound works okay after re-install. ( i never try upgrade )
[15:36] <bazhang> exibo, dual boot means you can boot into windows or linux from same computer
[15:37] <rgsteele||work> Hm.  Can you get the getabis binary without grabbing the kernel source from git?  I ran an apt-get source on the kernel version I want, made some changes and built the new config, initrd, system map, and vmlinuz, but I'd like to have the abi as well.
[15:37] <iLogic> is the new ubuntu still a pain to install on macbooks?
[15:37] <clint_> \whats ibex?
[15:37] <velko> ThipThip: this is only my guess, of course :-P
[15:37] <bazhang> MaxFrames, what error
[15:37] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:37] <rgsteele||work> Or, is there another way to generate the abi for the particular kernel?
[15:37] <iLogic> clint_:  it's like a goat, i guess
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: after installing ubuntu with the windows hd disconnected i disconnected it back and i want to dual boot now
[15:37] <Pici> rapha: Is it possible that one of your keys were blacklisted due to the recent vulnerability?
[15:37] <bazhang> !ibex | clint_
[15:37] <Slart> Frijolie: try using this line instead of the previous one.. same file.. options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[15:37] <n8tuser> hardcorelamer-> the existing one you have doesnt have those features, ithought they do?
[15:37] <MaxFrames> bazhang: "function sound ctl open failed for default: no such file or directory"
[15:37] <Rotlaus_> darkvertex: I'll restart my xserver
[15:37] <ThipThip> velko:  If it means anything, I can get into grub (by pressing esc) and look around / modify the commands
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: i tried to add to menu.lst
[15:37] <abbas> i want java in firfox
[15:37] <sp4rd4> lo
[15:37] <grub_n00b> how do I generate menu.lst?   would grub-install do it?
[15:37] <hardcorelamer> n8tuser: nope, it's a very bare bones vim, and vim-scripts installed, but it doesn't seem to add anything
[15:37] <Hondo_Kitsune> slayton: check your pm's
[15:37] <exibo> bazhang: smth like root (hd0,1)
[15:37] <velko> ThipThip: you can try
[15:38] <bazhang> abbas, then install it
[15:38] <clint_> what bazhang?
[15:38] <hardcorelamer> I'm trying to avoid installing half of gnome just to get vim working
[15:38] <clint_> what?
[15:38] <graingert> abbas: firefox walks you through it on hardy and ibe
[15:38] <exibo> bazhang but it simply told me that the drive doesnt exist
[15:38] <ThipThip> velko:  But what to do?  I'm so lost with the grub command line
[15:38] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:38] <bazhang> !java | abbas
[15:38] <slayton> Hondo_Kitsune, 1 sec
[15:38] <NicEXE> how do I fix the sound issues that i face with ALSA?
[15:38] <exibo> bazhang and now that gparted stuff
[15:38] <Pici> rapha: Have you tried running ssh with the verbose flag to see why its failing as well?
[15:38] <Frijolie> slart: remove the old one and replace it with the new suggested one?
[15:38] <graingert> how long is a "while" on ubuntu installer?
[15:38] <Slart> Frijolie: yup.. or just change auto to toshiba
[15:38] <velko> ThipThip: so it it easier to chroot in the broken install and to let grub regenerate everything by itself
[15:39] <graingert> I am trying to resize a partition on a 500gb
[15:39] <exibo> bazhang i think i will just try to boot windows from arch linux cd and check which one is right: fdisk or gparted
[15:39] <graingert> drive
[15:39] <bazhang> graingert, depends on your computer power and speed
[15:39] <ThipThip> velko: OK
[15:39] <Frijolie> slart: alright, I'll restart and be right back. My fingers are crossed XXXXX (all 10 of them)
[15:39] <MaxFrames> NicEXE: are you getting no sound as well?
[15:39] <rapha> Pici: yes, and curiously it says (with -vvv) "Not a RSA1 key file /home/rapha/.ssh/id_rsa" and then a bunch of other stuff which might be followup errors.
[15:39] <Slart> Frijolie: hehe
[15:39] <bazhang> graingert, a good long while then
[15:39] <graingert> bazhang: 2ghz dual core etc
[15:39] <n8tuser> hardcorelamer-> i dont know then
[15:39] <lopin> ikonia, Maybe it would just be easier to fix the FGLRX bug?
[15:39] <NicEXE> I get a weird (broken) clicking sound
[15:39] <Bigmack83> Under 8.04, i have an nvidia card, and for some reason i cant get better than 640x480 resolution. Ive had normal res before but i cant figure out how to fix it. any one know how i can fix this?
[15:39] <graingert> bazhang: hours; days; weeks?
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: i think i will just try to boot windows from arch linux cd and check which one is right: fdisk or gparted
[15:40] <lopin> Anyone else having problems with ATI cards, and X Server not starting?
[15:40] <rexwin> i am trying to install php in ubuntu. but i donot have the phpize command still at my disposal.
[15:40] <TJ-42> if I use gpg to encrypt a backup of my system, what are the files I have to backup separately to be sure that I can unencrypt my file?  Just my "private" keys?
[15:40] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> form your hard disk? that is omenous
[15:40] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:40] <rexwin> what packages contain the phpize command in ubuntu-based php?
[15:40] <bazhang> exibo, you could also get the gparted live cd for that
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: im not sure if i have to type "bazhang:" on the beggining of each message
[15:40] <grub_n00b> rexwin: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[15:40] <dcnoye> will ubuntu break if i add debian sources to the /etc/apt/source.list ?
[15:40] <exibo> bazhang: im looking at that link you gave me
[15:40] <graingert> exibo: you can tab complete on most irce clients
[15:40] <clint_> other than konq and FF...whats a good browser?
[15:40] <abbas> firfox dont opan chat
[15:40] <NicEXE> n8tuser: what does my hdd have to do with sound?
[15:41] <bazhang> exibo, just use the tab key; baz <tab>
[15:41] <CYR> !es
[15:41] <graingert> exibo: irc*
[15:41] <joaopinto> click170, epiphany ?
[15:41] <z0d14k> Anybody know how to get SPDIF working on an intel 82801FB (uses snd_intel_hda)?
[15:41] <joaopinto> ops, was clint
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: ah it worsk
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: works
[15:41] <elementz> could this http://pastebin.ca/1241635 be the reason, why my nm-applet does not show when starting gdm?
[15:41] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> thats why i asked if the click is from your hard disk,
[15:41] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[15:41] <exibo> bazhang: i wonder
[15:41] <NetEcho> how raped are the update servers with intrepid's release?
[15:41] <Tetracomm> I can't find gtk+-2.0, help?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gtk&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[15:41] <clint_> well my sound is screwed in firefox sense the upgrade
[15:41] <E-XtraCt> /j israel
[15:41] <elementz> btw, once i manage to start it, all networks are displayed TWICE
[15:41] <graingert> exibo: bazhang: it took me a rediculas amount of time to discover that!
[15:41] <E-XtraCt> ops, sry
[15:41] <abe3k> is there any way to use the eeepc's webcam with vlc under ubuntu ?
[15:41] <exibo> :p
[15:41] <NicEXE> no the sound comes from my speakers (as I mentioned before)
[15:42] <n8tuser> NicEXE-> most likely the hard disk is ready to crash if you hear those clicks often enuff
[15:42] <rconan> NetEcho, they seemed to be ok last night, i was d/ling at 1.6MB/s off them
[15:42] <geekboy> Help, I'm trying to set up VMware server 2.0 and I can't change the root password
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: i wonder if it worked
[15:42] <grub_n00b> anyone know how to generate a menu.lst the same way the installer does?
[15:42] <joaopinto> geekboy, sudo passwd
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: if I
[15:42] <bazhang> exibo, download the gparted live cd and try
[15:42] <NetEcho> how do you do a dist upgrade again?
[15:42] <sisseck> How do i change the root password. tried using the user manager but that didnt seem to work
[15:42] <exibo> bazhang: okay, brb
[15:42] <RediXe> What's a good monitor system for looking for attacks? While having a text file open I saw %systemroot%/cmd.exe and some command be written to it on it's own and kind of curious on how I can figure out how that happened.
[15:42] <geekboy> I tried sudo passwd but I won't give me the option to chane
[15:42] <bazhang> !upgrade | NetEcho
[15:42] <E-XtraCt> I just installed Ubuntu than I did "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", How do I change between the desktops ?
[15:43] <NetEcho> thaNKS bazhang
[15:43] <graingert> RediXe: you need to install ubuntu
[15:43] <geekboy> just says passwd: password updated successfully
[15:43] <dr_willis> E-XtraCt,  look at the gdm login screen. in the sessions menu
[15:43] <NicEXE> the problem is not on my hdd... the problem is on ALSA
[15:43] <velko> grub_n00b: man grub-update, man grub-install
[15:43] <bazhang> E-XtraCt, in the login window under sessions
[15:43] <abe3k> is there any way to use the eeepc's webcam with vlc under ubuntu ?
[15:43] <RediXe> graingert: I am running xubuntu - that's why I'm not too worried
[15:43] <RediXe> graingert: I just want to know where it came from
[15:43] <bazhang> abe3k, with vlc? that does not make sense
[15:43] <prmr> join #ubuntu-uk
[15:43] <graingert> RediXe: how did you see it?
[15:44] <graingert> RediXe: did you see it while on windoze?
[15:44] <abe3k> bazhang : I want to stream it :)
[15:44] <velko> grub_n00b: sorry update-grub instead of grub-update...
[15:44] <bazhang> abe3k, that wont work
[15:44] <RediXe> graingert: I was coding in Code::Blocks and it just started typing to my screen. No I don't run windows on any of my machines not even in a vm.
[15:44] <exibo> bazhang: omg
[15:44] <abe3k> bazhang : I know vlc can stream webcams, but I want to know if its possible with the eeepc
[15:45] <Tetracomm> I can't find gthread either.
[15:45] <graingert> RediXe: are you on a badlan?
[15:45] <NicEXE> I got tired trying to find a solution for that "no-sound problem"... Does anyone knows the solution?
[15:45] <RediXe> graingert: what would be a badlan?
[15:45] <graingert> abe3k: what driver does the eecam use
[15:45] <grub_n00b> velko: thanks, Ill take a look
[15:45] <ikonia> lopin: could be - but doubtful, thats normally a handful
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: i tried to boot windows using a proper option in arch linux cd
[15:45] <E-XtraCt> bazhang: If I want to choose on startup I have to remove the V ?
[15:45] <Tyrath> ok I just wanted to explain to everyone that infact there was no bug and the PHP is viewable
[15:45] <bazhang> abe3k, check #eeepc and www.eeeuser.com wiki for more info
[15:45] <graingert> RediXe: a lan in which your "mates" play tricks on you
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: and it booted ubuntu
[15:45] <exibo> bazhang: seriously, what the hell
[15:45] <Tyrath> I failed to look in the right spots for the PHP
[15:45] <geekboy> Help, I'm trying to set up VMware server 2.0 and I can't change the root password.  I tried sudo passwd but I won't give me the option to change.  just says passwd: password updated successfully
[15:46] <Tyrath> as such PHP code can be viewed in intrepid just like it could be in hardy
[15:46] <ikonia> geekboy you shouldn't be setting the root password
[15:46] <graingert> geekboy: do you NEED vmware as aposed to virtualbox?
[15:46] <Tyrath> really stupid of me to get angry about it
[15:46] <NetEcho> rconan looks like its almost dead now, I'm stuck at download rate unknown lol
[15:46] <bazhang> geekboy, use sudo
[15:46] <geekboy> I need to for VMWare
[15:46] <krish> i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:46] <Tyrath> thanks for the help just the same
[15:46] <Slart> geekboy: does vmware really need your root passwd?
[15:46] <bazhang> !sudo | geekboy
[15:46] <RediXe> graingert: ahhh not that I'm aware of - it's an office and the only other tech savy person is my boss and he isn't in the office - I do have ssh and vnc ports forwarded to my machine - ssh is a non standard port
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: when i disconnect the ubuntu hard drive
[15:46] <bingungaja> i don't understand about the messages log
[15:46] <krish>  i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: i get grub error 21
[15:46] <NetEcho> geekboy I'd suggest using virtualbox, I find it works just as good as vmware but its free
[15:46] <exibo> bazhang: when booting
[15:46] <graingert> RediXe: add a vnc password
[15:46] <ThipThip> velko: So I'm booted up with a live CD, now what?
[15:46] <Dorobo18jp> outbackwifi you stillthere?
[15:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia: i tried installing itunes, it manages to install files for apple update and quicktime player, but doesn't install itunes, says it ran into errors and didn't change the system, so no files were installed for it :(
[15:47] <bazhang> exibo, you need to reinstall grub
[15:47] <zzattack> hey, video playback on my install looks quite locky, in windows it looks a lot more smooth, any idea what could cause this?
[15:47] <geekboy> I already have a vm session and unfortuantly VMware requires root intitialy
[15:47] <graingert> RediXe: or make it so that people have to ask you to let them on
[15:47] <ThipThip> velko: I don't think I've ever used chroot
[15:47] <RediXe> graingert: Pretty sure it requires a password
[15:47] <exibo> bazhang: which one?
[15:47] <NET||abuse> ikonia: also, you have to use the 32bit to get even that much, the 64bit won't launch
[15:47] <NicEXE> I get a weird (broken) clicking sound from my speakers (since the upgrade)... How to fix that?
[15:47] <graingert> RediXe: it is almost certainly a vnc hack (sounds like)
[15:47] <velko> ThipThip: start a terminal, make some empty directory (say /mnt/system)
[15:47] <bazhang> zzattack, you need to give a lot more info
[15:47] <Th0mas> hi
[15:47] <exibo> bazhang: the one im using now, which is on my root partition on ubuntu hard disk or the one on the windows hard disk
[15:47] <zzattack> bazhang: what kind of info?
[15:47] <krish>  i installed ubuntu server on a P-3 machine but wen i restart it doesnot boot, it shows a please wait..... message
[15:47] <RediXe> graingert: That's what I was thinking - I disabled port forwarding for now. I just use it to work from home sometimes
[15:48] <rapha> Pici: any idea?
[15:48] <jernst1> krish: when grub is starting type esc
[15:48] <Th0mas> need help für skype config. i am using linux ubuntu my first time please querry me
[15:48] <bazhang> zzattack, are you using compiz; what video card and driver and how installed; what version of ubuntu; what is laggy
[15:48] <graingert> RediXe: ok
[15:48] <RediXe> graingert: Is there anyway to monitor attacks like that or any attacks in general?
[15:48] <krish> jernstI ok and then
[15:48] <jernst1> krish: then start in recovery mode to see if you see any meeningfull message
[15:48] <bazhang> !skype | Th0mas
[15:48] <krish> ok
[15:48] <bingungaja> i'm asking again, anyone has issues with totem playing dvd ?
[15:48] <Tetracomm> I can't compile any programs annd I really need to find gtk+-2.0 and gthread, help?
[15:48] <exibo> !grub
[15:49] <clint_> UUGGGGHHHH no sound on my pornos. oh no's
[15:49] <zzattack> bazhang, im using 8.04 64 bit, all default drivers I think, the video isn't laggy but it is blocky
[15:49] <bazhang> Tetracomm, install build-essential
[15:49] <bazhang> clint_, stop that
[15:49] <clint_> why would sound work on a mp3 on my HD but not stream on a viral video
[15:49] <vise> e possibile vedere gli indirizzi msn degli amici degli amici?
[15:49] <bazhang> !coc | clint_
[15:49] <graingert> RediXe: yes... if you make vnc request your permission; then drop down to permit after 10 seconds
[15:49] <Th0mas> thx
[15:49] <clint_> i didnt cuss
[15:49] <clint_> ah ha
[15:49] <graingert> graingert: so if no-one is using it you can still vnc in
[15:49] <Ash44455666> gah, it autoconnected me here
[15:49] <graingert> whoops
[15:49] <Ash44455666> o_o
[15:49] <Dude_> I'm using intrepid and i activated compiz now, and i lost the windows borders. it happened to me before in hardy but i forgot how to fix it. does anybody know how?
[15:49] <krish> jernstI i got this problem after i tried to remove ssh which i installed
[15:50] <graingert> RediXe: so if no-one is using it you can still vnc in
[15:50] <Slart> !it | vise
[15:50] <bazhang> Dude_, compiz help in #compiz-fusion
[15:50] <clint_> i guess ill reinstall FF
[15:50] <graingert> RediXe: but if you are using it you can stop l33t l$x0rs
[15:50] <velko> ThipThip: you there?
[15:50] <Dude_> bazhang: ok thank you
[15:50] <krish> jernstI it shows TSC unstable due to TSC idle
[15:50] <rapha> !de | rapha
[15:50] <dcnoye> i'm looking for documention on sources.list .... where can i find it ??
[15:50] <ThipThip> velko: Yep, I made the directory
[15:50] <velko> ThipThip: mount your broken install in this directory: sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt/system
[15:51] <NET||abuse> ikonia: found a solution on a site. seems other people gotit running.
[15:51] <RediXe> graingert: lol,
[15:51] <NET||abuse> ikonia: http://www.wine-reviews.net/applications/itunes-73-on-linux-with-wine.html
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang:  ive entered the grub prompt and typed "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang: and it said (hd1,0)
[15:51] <Yimpolo> How do I restart services in ubuntu?
[15:51] <bazhang> exibo, why do you keep switching hdd's in and out?
[15:51] <ThipThip> velko: done
[15:51] <exibo> bazhang: i just did it once
[15:51] <bingungaja> i'm asking again, anyone has issues with totem playing dvd ? (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotoo8.png)
[15:51] <velko> mount the /dev/ directory from the live cd to the chrooted environment (in order to be able to access the drives): mount -o bind /dev /mnt/system/dev
[15:51] <tom_e> hey i was thinking about upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10, but the release notes state some incomprehensible (to me) stuff on nvidia support, does it affect [GeForce FX 5200] ?
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: cuz when i had both connected
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: the installation of ubuntu
[15:52] <velko> ThipThip: mount the /dev/ directory from the live cd to the chrooted environment (in order to be able to access the drives): sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/system/dev
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: screwed something that i was recieving grub error 21
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: and the only thing i could do was unplugging the windows hdd
[15:52] <exibo> bazhang: and installing ubuntu on that second hdd
[15:53] <Yimpolo> How do I restart services (such as ssh) in ubuntu??
[15:53] <bazhang> !fstab | exibo check here
[15:53] <exibo> bazhang: then connecting windows hdd back again and adding it to bootloader
[15:53] <NicEXE> I am (an amateur) music producer and I can't work without sound. What's wrong? the problem started since I upgraded to 8.10
[15:53] <Tetracomm> bazhang: Then what?
[15:53] <velko> Yimpolo: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[15:53] <ThipThip> velko: can't find /dev/mnt/system/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab - did you mean /mnt/system/dev?
[15:53] <Yimpolo> Thanks velko :P
[15:53] <bazhang> Tetracomm, the build-essential package will allow you to compile
[15:53] <Frijolie> slart: hard to tell...
[15:53] <Tetracomm> Ok.
[15:53] <Tetracomm> :)
[15:53] <NicEXE> * i got a weird clicking sound instead of music
[15:54] <rufusdel1> hello everyone, my PC is not able to start with the last 2 versions of kernel since i-ve made the 8.04 update and starts the initframes. Any sugestion?
[15:54] <Slart> Frijolie: no big difference then..
[15:54] <Pici> rapha: Does ~/.ssh/id_rsa look like an RSA keyfile? Does it start with "-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----" ?