[10:36] <c0mrade______> Support about 500 concurrent users. No support for video and audio and file transfer. Support for multiple rooms and public rooms.
[10:36] <Pumpkin-> heavily depends on what you want to do. Serving 500 users a bunch of static pages you could most likely do on a 486. Serving 500 concurent users something that involves a lot of complex logic, database queries and general processing, maybe not. Serving 500 users analysis of the the Large Hadron Colider results in real time, not a hope etc ...
[10:36] <hateball> c0mrade______, Paarthunax: are these headsets with 3.5mm connectors, or bluetooth etc? Sometimes the jack sense doesnt work for some chipsets
[10:37] <c0mrade______> Maybe I think about using Apache server.
[10:37] <drecute> i cannot edit networking properties
[10:37] <c0mrade______> Paarthunax: They are standard earphones with a standard jack. No bluetooth.
[10:38] <Paarthunax> I solved the jack issue by not inserting all of the plug.
[10:38] <Paarthunax> Mine is a bluetooth one
[10:38] <jblanca> Hi, I have some doubts regarding grub2
[10:38] <ponrajuganesh> how to find the location of the directory in ubuntu
[10:39] <ANub_> drecute: explain....
[10:39] <c0mrade______> Pumpkin-: I'll be probably using PHP on the server side and html/javascript on the client side and I'll use an IRC server and customize it to my needs.
[10:39] <jblanca> I have just installed precise and grub has been installed in the mbr. This is a dualboot system and I want to reinstall grub2 in the ubuntu partition
[10:39] <drecute> ANub_: I just configured nis client on ubuntu 11 desktop
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> jblanca  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:40] <jblanca> I know that I can do it with grub-install, but I don't know if the next time grub is update it will overwrite th mbr again.
[10:40] <c0mrade______> Well the issue here is the bandwidth.
[10:40] <drecute> and symptoms of that is whether I launched an action, it takes a long time to respond
[10:41] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: before you setup for 500 concurrent users you can setup you home unit with dhcp to probly handle 10 or more users depending on content
[10:41] <jblanca> Any idea regarding how to specify where grub2 should be installed on updates?
[10:41] <drecute> coupled with that, my networking connection in which nis, DNS, likewise depends on is disaled and wn't allow me to edit it
[10:41] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: sorry dhcp = adsl
[10:41] <c0mrade______> My ISP gives limited bandwidth down=4GB up=1.5GB downspeed=1Mbps upspeed=200Kbps every extra 1GB per month costs 7$.
[10:42] <ANub_> drecute:Odd....however why would u wanna use NIS.........it poses a serious security threat if used with dynamic IP
[10:42] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: then limit you server activity,  when you get the trafic then move to a virtual system that can handle the trafic
[10:42] <Paarthunax> ponrajuganesh: have you tried $locate [directory]?
[10:42] <auronandace> c0mrade______: 4gb monthly allowance and you want to run a server?
[10:42] <drecute> i'm not using dynamic IP
[10:43] <c0mrade______> Well HeHe. I am trying to work it out.
[10:43] <c0mrade______> There might be a solution.
[10:43] <c0mrade______> I mean it's an issue but...
[10:43] <ponrajuganesh> ya that works Paarthunax  thanks
[10:43] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: you can also change your contract with your ISP or change ISP
[10:43] <ponrajuganesh> what is the command to start and stop the tomcat?
[10:44] <c0mrade______> It's there's a user sending 1Kb in the public room that contains 100 users he's uploading 100Kb. Damn!
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  4GB for 500 users?
[10:44] <ANub_> drecute: Are you using GUI....Network-Manager..?
[10:44] <c0mrade______> Well I can change the contract with the ISP as sacarlson said.
[10:45] <drecute> I also modified the network parameters myself in /etc/network/interfaces. But that won't still make the GUI network manager to become enabled
[10:45] <drecute> yes I am
[10:46] <c0mrade______> I am worried more about the webserver hardware cost, the webserver setup, the website code...
[10:46] <ANub_> drecute: which Ubuntu version you are using..?
[10:46] <drecute> 11.10
[10:46] <sacarlson> drecute: you want a static address?  should be posible from network-manager,  if you changed interfaces file pastebinit for us to see
[10:47] <ANub_> drecute: have you tried stopping and starting network-manager service from terminal..?
[10:47] <c0mrade______> :P people are starting to use IPv6
[10:47] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: there's lots of free php code the server take almost nothing compared to the bandwidth needed
[10:47] <drecute> yes. static address.
[10:47] <ANub_> drecute: have you tried stopping and starting network-manager service from terminal..?
[10:47] <drecute> yes
[10:47] <c0mrade______> Well that's good.
[10:48] <c0mrade______> I don't want the server to take up half of the bandwidth lol.
[10:48] <drecute> I did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:48] <mertsas> auronandace: I don't really care if it makes sense, but is it possible?
[10:48] <auronandace> mertsas: why would your firewall block one update but not another?
[10:48] <ANub_> drecute: networking is separate from network-manager
[10:49] <brun0l3z> Hello People
[10:49] <ANub_> try "service network-manager restart"
[10:49] <auronandace> mertsas: if you are updating just the one repo and you install updates you might end up having dependency issues and things will break
[10:49] <drecute> ok
[10:50] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: with an ISP of 10Mbs bandwidht you could live with a very small 1.7 ghz cpu and 512meg dram,  hardware is nothing,  you might want a big disk drive to play with
[10:50] <drecute> done that
[10:50] <drecute> no luck still
[10:50] <brun0l3z> I have a problem, i have tor browser configured and works well but this website keep blocking and canceling my accounts i create with them so i was wondering if they is another way to go about this
[10:51] <ponrajuganesh> how to check whether a location exists or not ?
[10:51] <sacarlson> drecute: I seem to have missed your pastebin of /etc/network/interfaces  did you post it for us to see?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> ponrajuganesh  use locate
[10:52] <OerHeks> brun0l3z, not really an ubuntu issue, is it? some sites do not accept tor-traffic.
[10:52] <ANub_> drecute: does your network-manager GUI shows you any options..?
[10:52] <ANub_> and r those selectable
[10:52] <bel3atar> Guys I need help, I've just accidentally removed my /etc/rc.local
[10:53] <sacarlson> ANub_: if he modified /etc/network/interfaces then network-manager no longer controls it
[10:53] <rumpe1> bel3atar, just create it again
[10:53] <sacarlson> ANub_: sorry he = drecute
[10:53] <auronandace> sacarlson: doesn't networkmanager overwrite /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:54] <ANub_> drecute: does your network-manager GUI shows you any options..?
[10:54] <ANub_> and r those selectable
[10:54] <drecute> only Edit connections is enabled
[10:54] <drecute> here: http://codepad.org/vRTGLTKw
[10:54] <c0mrade______> sacarlson: What do you think about this one --> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=1u+rack+server+with+64+gb+of+ram&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=536&prmd=imvns&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9057710692162008529&sa=X&ei=vPmLT7TxBMGg0QXGq9jLCQ&ved=0CHkQ8wIwBA
[10:54] <sacarlson> auronandace: not as far as I know,  maybe at install?  but I was told the method to set static was to modify /etc/network/interfaces
[10:54] <dixon_> How important is it to start SSD partitions on the second cylinder? I've noticed that newer versions of GParted automatically aligns the partitions correctly, but it does it from the first cylinder on the device.
[10:55] <auronandace> sacarlson: ah, i may be remembering wrongly then, thanks for the info
[10:55] <sacarlson> c0mrade______: for one thing you will also need a rack to mount it in and seems it comes with no mem
[10:56] <dixon_> Reason why I ask regarding what cylinder to start the first SSD partition on is because some claim starting on the 2nd cylinder is better?
[10:56] <ANub_> drecute: this is wat you posted in /etc/network/interfaces.....?
[10:56] <bel3atar> rumpe1, and fill it with what?
[10:56] <c0mrade______> I know I've got an old empty rack chassis. And yeah. I'll upgrade it with as much RAM as it'll need.
[10:56] <drecute> I have removed the entry in /etc/network/interfaces and restarted network-manager
[10:56] <bel3atar> rumpe1: and fill it with what?
[10:56] <drecute> no luck still
[10:57] <rumpe1> bel3atar, whatever you like. Maybe it should be set executable. It's just a script, which (if it exists), will be executed on boot
[10:57] <drecute> yes
[10:57] <hateball> !ot | c0mrade______
[10:57] <c0mrade______> What's up hateball?
[10:57] <c0mrade______> :P
[10:57] <sacarlson> drecute: what setting are you trying to acheave?   ipaddress, mask, gateway ?
[10:57] <rumpe1> bel3atar, the default rc.local consists of just a script without any commands (just commented lines)
[10:57] <hateball> c0mrade______: Just letting you know this channel is for Ubuntu support, rather than general inquiries :)
[10:58] <bel3atar> rumpe1: OKI thanks a lot
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> c0mrade______  please /join #ubuntu-offtopic for your kind of questions
[10:58] <c0mrade______> Oh yeah.
[10:58] <c0mrade______> Awesome!
[10:58] <ANub_> drecute: r u using wifi right now to chat......or is it another PC...?
[10:58] <drecute> another PC
[10:59] <rumpe1> dixon_, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual    Cylinder alignment seems to be for compatibility with old OS like DOS
[10:59] <ANub_> drecute: r u sure ..... ur network cable is plugged in right....?
[11:00] <ANub_> 'cause if its not.....u will not see Auto-Eth in network-manager applet
[11:00] <rumpe1> dixon_, "MiB alignment provides enhanced performance when used with RAID systems and with Solid State Drives, such as USB flash drives."  ... "Cylinder/Head/Sector ... no longer valid to use .. to achieve enhanced performance"
[11:00] <drecute> yes
[11:00] <drecute> i can ping other computers in my network
[11:01] <ANub_> from ubuntu PC....?
[11:01] <sacarlson> drecute: so you failed to add a default gateway route
[11:01] <dixon_> rumpe1: ah, yeah. thanks! :) I think I'm good to go then
[11:02] <ANub_> drecute: have u tried using "ifconfig" command and adding a manual route
[11:02] <JelloPop> rumpe1: u running arch linux
[11:03] <rumpe1> JelloPop, not at the moment
[11:03] <ANub_> if that works for you....and network-manager still stuck then you can try uninstalling and reinstalling network-manager from ubuntu software center
[11:03] <ANub_> drecute: have u tried using "ifconfig" command and adding a manual route
[11:03] <ANub_> if that works for you....and network-manager still stuck then you can try uninstalling and reinstalling network-manager from ubuntu software center
[11:03] <JelloPop> rumpe1: Figured u might be in arch linux most people dont now the full package name for the network-manager-applet...
[11:04] <sacarlson> ANub_: drecute: all these values are changeable in network-manager I think drecute is lacking for a minimal static address with routes and dns services
[11:04] <JelloPop> rumpe1: I know most of them cause I run Xmonad and now arch linux.. :)
[11:04] <ANub_> sacarlson: it seems drecute's Network-manager is either stuck or crashed
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> drecute  don't forget to add a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:05] <sacarlson> ANub_: that would of happened after he modified the interfaces file so he won't let us peak at that and provides no info of the values he will need to know to setup a working routed connection
[11:06] <JelloPop> rumpe1: Can u tell me what the best chance I have at running virtualbox with 2 gigs of ram cpu i70 which is 2ghz ?
[11:06] <ANub_> drecute: try what i've suggested above
[11:07] <ANub_> hopefully it will work
[11:07] <JelloPop> rumpe1: tried to run linux mint 64 and it is slow in virtualbox.. It almost crashed...
[11:08] <drecute> ok
[11:08] <rumpe1> JelloPop, i would suggest to ask that question in the proper channel ( irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help )
[11:08] <ANub_> first make sure u r able to assign ip address using ifconfig
[11:08] <ANub_> then bring up the interface using
[11:09] <ANub_> ifconfig eth0 up
[11:09] <MrElendig> (or better, ip)
[11:09] <ANub_> then add manual route
[11:09] <drecute> i used network-admin. Now it is not working anylonger
[11:09] <ANub_> and see if communication happens
[11:09] <drecute> "The configuration could not be loaded"
[11:09] <JelloPop> rumpe1: I need help with virtual box its to slow!
[11:09] <JelloPop> rumpe1: can u help in ubuntu chat
[11:10] <ANub_> drecute: use "ifconfig "your-interface" IP-add netmask up
[11:10] <rocket16> Hey guys. Is there a way I can share my laptop internet connection with my android? (Without Wifi, 'cause that doesn't work between my system and phone). I mean to use the USB cable. :) I want to do that because the laptop bandwidth is more and faster
[11:10] <drecute> Liboobs-WARNING **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backens: Activation of org.freedesktop.SystemToolBackens timed out
[11:10]  * rocket16 uses Ubuntu 11.10 btw
[11:10] <drecute> ANub_: on it
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> rocket16  start here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[11:12] <drecute> hostname lookup failure
[11:12]  * drecute trying to edit /etc/hosts
[11:12] <JelloPop> MrElendig: thanks for the help earlier today in Archlinux this is archboxman thank you I understand key ring now
[11:13] <ANub_> drecute: just execute the command as i wrote
[11:13] <drecute> yeah
[11:13] <ANub_> use "ifconfig "your-interface" IP-add netmask up
[11:13] <rocket16> Doing that. Thanks MonkeyDust
[11:13] <drecute> it says "+ Host name lookup failure"
[11:14] <ANub_> thats odd......it shldnt
[11:14] <munsking> i've been trying to install ubuntu server 11.10 using unetbootin and it looks like grub isnt installing correctly because it wont boot, no errors are given during installation and after running "grub-install" using the live CD it still doesn't work, even though there were no errors
[11:14] <ANub_> if u run ifconfig eth0
[11:14] <ANub_> does it show u any output
[11:14] <munsking> so how do i config grub and what should i change
[11:14] <auronandace> ANub_: he edited /etc/hosts
[11:15] <drecute> yes
[11:15] <drecute> shows what's in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:16] <ANub_> then run ifconfig eth1 up
[11:16] <sacarlson> drecute: another option is you can override network-manager for a session with a script like this http://pastebin.com/jPmRs0GJ
[11:16] <ANub_> as u have shown its ur eth1 interface
[11:16] <ANub_> then ping ur own interface
[11:17] <ponrajuganesh> whether using grep could we find whether a string is found in another string?
[11:17] <ANub_> and afterwards ping other PCs on the same network
[11:17] <saulo> hello. I have mysql running inside a schroot environment. I can't connect at database from apache: I receive "can't connect" for localhost and if I put the machine IP I receive "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". Somebody can help me?
[11:17] <saulo> hello. I have mysql running inside a schroot environment. I can't connect at database from apache: I receive "can't connect" for localhost and if I put the machine IP I receive "Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111". Somebody can help me?
[11:17] <ANub_> if successful add a default route and point it to ur gateway to go to internet\
[11:17] <FloodBot1> saulo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <drecute> all works fine
[11:18] <drecute> the network config is fine
[11:18] <drecute> my my only problem is that ubuntu is refusing to start some GUI apps
[11:18] <ANub_> try reinstalling those applications
[11:18] <drecute> e.g i want to leave the AD domain and it won't start likewise
[11:19] <ponrajuganesh> whether could we use grep to find a string contains other string?
[11:20] <jrib> ponrajuganesh: echo outside_string| grep inner_string
[11:20] <drecute> i dont need internet on this for now
[11:20] <sacarlson> saulo: schroot environment?  is that normal?  what guide did you use to set it up?  do you have a link?
[11:21] <drecute> i can do that when I need to
[11:21] <Greyze> Afternoon, can anyone help me with a small issue with Skype on ubuntu 12?
[11:21] <auronandace> !12.04 | Greyze
[11:24] <Greyze> Have an odd problem with Skype, when someone calls, I hear the ringing sound.. but theres no actual button or notification I can press to accept the call. Am I being dull and its hidden somewhere, or is this some bug?
[11:24] <computer_> when is 12.04 officially be released?
[11:25] <saulo> sacarlson: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/566 and installed Mysql inside. Connections inside works good, connections from other machines dont
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> computer_  april 26
[11:26] <computer_> i cant wait that long! :(
[11:26] <computer_> :)
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> computer_  you can use the beta, suport in #ubuntu+1
[11:26] <computer_> i want the full release not beta
[11:27] <shape> computer_ April 26
[11:27] <computer_> hehe
[11:27] <shape> computer_ if you look it up on google you can track the ubuntu development of it
[11:27] <computer_> its like a special holiday, cant wait!
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> computer_  final coment: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[11:28] <sacarlson> saulo: ok that just limits users to access certain apps wow then I guess you should also post your configs for schroot,  not sure why this would be needed
[11:28] <shape> computer_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[11:28] <computer_> :)
[11:28] <shape> Ah he beat me to it
[11:29] <sacarlson> saulo: mysql already has control to limit access that you will also have to set
[11:30] <sacarlson> saulo: maybe setup a normal mysql system with your remotes then add this layer of security after you figure out the normal security built into mysql
[11:30] <computer_> nice link
[11:31] <matt__> I'm trying to install right now, but Ubiquity seems to be stuck on "Removing conflicting operating system files", should I restart or wait it out?
[11:31] <shape> matt_: what install method did you use?
[11:31] <shape> matt_: and for how long have you been waiting?
[11:31] <matt__> shape: liveusb
[11:31] <matt__> shape: around 15 minutes
[11:32] <shape> matt_ Does Ubuntu have its own partition?
[11:32] <shape> Or did you install it alongside windows
[11:33] <matt__> shape: yeah, Ubuntu is being installed (/) on a USB, /home is on a separate harddrive
[11:33] <saulo> sacarlson: more information about: I have 3 machines: (1) mysql and ruby systems (2) with Apache + PHP5.2 (3) with Apache + php 5.3 . All with schroot and needing connect with the databases..
[11:33] <matt__> I feel I should confess that I'm installing precise, but +1 is dead atm
[11:33] <Onewhohelps> sacarlson:
[11:34] <sacarlson> saulo: so I suggest skip the schroot part for now or for ever
[11:34] <shape> matt__: I see. I never installed from a usb and I have no experience with 12. So I shouldn't give bad advice but if I were in your situation I would just redo it. I'd wait max 30 minutes.
[11:35] <sacarlson> saulo: or at least leave it out of the mysql part,  maybe still ok for your developers to limit there access
[11:36] <matt__> shape: yeah, nothing can really go horribly wrong here, so I guess it's pointless to wait it out
[11:36] <shape> matt__: The reason I asked was in case you were installing it on the same partition as windows, only then I would have worried.
[11:37] <matt__> shape: yeah, I'm not into Windows ;)
[11:37] <computer_> how do i make so i can 64 or 32 bit ubuntu on usb?
[11:38] <computer_> how do i make so i can run 64 or 32 bit ubuntu on usb?
[11:38] <sacarlson> saulo: oh maybe your problem has nothing to do with schroot you just need to open some of your mysql accounts to be accessed by some of your other servers
[11:38] <shape> Does anyone here have any advice on how to convert a friend to Linux (he is using a MAC), because all he does is just surf the web and email anyway. I haven't used a MAC and I don't know any good arguments about its software (apart from not being open source and the machine costing a lot). Are there any flaws system-wize?
[11:38] <computer_> i have 8gb usb key
[11:39] <mathews> computer_, dowmload the ISO 32 bit which can be run on both 32 and 62
[11:39] <aboudreault> Hi. Why can I read a blueray file (or x264) without problem? My pc is quite recent and the video card very good. but... I always see glitches in the screen. The only way I have been able to watch that kind of movie is with *cvlc*. But sometime it doesn't work very good, like other players.
[11:39] <computer_> mathews, really? cool!
[11:39] <sacarlson> saulo: the overlaped security adds to the complexity to isolate your problem for me
[11:39] <computer_> thanks!
[11:40] <mathews> why some text missing here on xchat which I entered?
[11:40] <shape> aboudreault: you mean play a HD movie in ubuntu? Gives you choppy graphics in the player?
[11:40] <matt__> shape: personally, I wouldn't waste my time. Mac folk tend not to deal well with arguments
[11:40] <mathews> some part of my text missing when it entered
[11:41] <computer_> irc server issue i guess
[11:42] <sacarlson> mathews: I've noted that everytime my systems dhcp lease expires my irc has to reconect,  not sure why,  could be just me
[11:43] <mathews> I am having a check in the preference section to see whats wrong
[11:44] <sacarlson> computer_: or with 8gb flash drive you could create a multiboot usb drive
[11:44] <shape> mathews: you could also try a different program and see if the same thing happens
[11:44] <computer_> i think if u type too many lines too fast it does that by irc server
[11:45] <computer_> yeah but using just 32 would be easier
[11:45] <mathews> yes,sure. Let see
[11:45] <sacarlson> computer_: I've never tried this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/07/easily-create-a-multiboot-usb-stick/
[11:46] <computer_> ill take a look
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson i've used muti
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson i've used multisystem
[11:46] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: did you try this one that creates it for you?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sacarlson difference with unetbootin is, that multisystem copies the locales
[11:47] <sacarlson> MonkeyDust: oh unetbootin already supports multiboot now?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> copies = takes over
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> sacarlson  that's another differnce, multisystem uses a grub-like menu
[11:48] <computer_> got a link mokey?
[11:48] <mathews> my problem solved,I increased the "shorten tab labels to" to 50 in the chennel switcher
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> computer_  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:48] <computer_> nice to have choices like this
[11:48] <sacarlson> computer_: ya and pendrivelinux.com has all the cool stuf like that
[11:49] <saulo> sacarlson: thanks anyway! I partially solved changing the bind-addres value from <IP_ADDRESS> to the machine IP (<IP_ADDRESS>) at my.cnf . Partially because I don't know if will appear some problem related yet, but going test :)
[11:49] <sacarlson> but funny with all this muliboot stuf I still can't get a single ubuntu alternate iso to boot from a flash drive or added menu in grub2
[11:50] <computer_> hmm
[11:50] <aboudreault> shape, yes, exact.
[11:50] <bourke> is it possible to remove the messaging applet from the unity panel?
[11:51] <aboudreault> shape, something like the image is not rendered without glitches.... ie, an horizontal line that goes up. (image drawing)
[11:51] <sacarlson> bourke: I think it might remove something else you might want to keep like the time or volume,  I could be wrong about this
[11:51] <dr_willis> bourke:  should be., i recall the webupd8 blog site having a list of tweaks and tips. I think that was one of them
[11:52] <mrafi> #python
[11:52] <bourke> i would have thought it should be easy but haven't turned up much so far in google
[11:53] <dr_willis> bourke:  check the webupd8 site and the askubuntu.com site
[11:54] <bourke> got it :) indicator-messages
[11:54] <sacarlson> bourke: when removed do you still see your volume control?
[11:55] <Xtreme> hey guys, i have downloaded warzone from their website.. but while installing its giving error sdl is missing.. i searched apt-get, and warzone is available there. so how can i only install dependencies using apt-get
[11:55] <dr_willis> used to be people would right click/remove - and it would remove the whole indicator-applet panel thing. :) so removeing all indicatlr-applets i recall.
[11:55] <dr_willis> Xtreme:  its a newer version on the site>?
[11:56] <bourke> Xtreme: apt-get build-dep warzone (i think
[11:57] <dr_willis> if the download from the site is a .deb you could use gdebi to pull in all needed deps.
[11:58] <computer_> hmm i wonder if pdanet works with ubuntu
[11:58] <dr_willis> computer_:  that xdgteather app thats out does.. no idea on pdanet
[12:00] <computer_> heheh found it, lets see if it works http://junefabrics.com/bin/PdaNet.deb
[12:00] <Xtreme> bourke: got error
[12:00] <Xtreme> source required as uri
[12:00] <computer_> its for iphone?! :(
[12:01] <computer_> iphone sux
[12:01] <sacarlson> computer_: I guess pdanet is just like wifi tether?
[12:01] <computer_> usb
[12:01] <computer_> i got it to work with windows..no luck with linux
[12:01] <sacarlson> computer_: oh ok,  I just use wifi for that stuf
[12:01] <trevor> w
[12:01] <computer_> i use my htc sprint to share internet with my pc
[12:02] <computer_> free
[12:02] <q222> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1585550 Anyone have a solution for this old thread? Because it's still a problem, a huge one that's totally ruining the OS for me.
[12:02] <sacarlson> computer_: same as wifi tether as you android becomes an access point that a group can also share
[12:02] <computer_> but then again i guess i could virtualbox win and use it
[12:03] <computer_> u have to pay 30 extra dollars to sprint to be able to share internet
[12:03] <computer_> with ur phone
[12:03] <computer_> ur pc i mean
[12:03] <sacarlson> computer_: how can they tell you running a wifi tether?
[12:03] <Guest71555> fantastisch
[12:03] <computer_> well the panet only works with usb tethering
[12:04] <computer_> pdanet*
[12:04] <computer_> not wifi
[12:04] <sacarlson> computer_: so you phone doesn't have wifi?
[12:04] <computer_> yeas but pdanet wont work asa wifi router
[12:04] <computer_> of usb connection
[12:05] <computer_> only*
[12:05] <paulus68> what is a good tutorial to create a preseed file?
[12:05] <sacarlson> computer_: I'm speaking of a different application that does the same thing on wifi for an android,  I don't know how sprint can detect it
[12:05] <computer_> whats the app called?
[12:06] <dr_willis> The carriers can detect it if you are teathering apraently and give you a nasty suprise..
[12:06] <sacarlson> computer_: there are many you can google " wifi tether "
[12:06] <dr_willis> some  apps the use usb-cables. aparently are not detectable. they yse some proxy method
[12:06] <fidel> isnt that an adroid default function - as long as the carrier allows it?
[12:06] <computer_> hmm my coworker been using it for months no surprises
[12:06] <fidel> i had no need to install anything special - to be able to share my whatever network
[12:07] <zayan> Hey i need some help guys
[12:07] <fidel> zayan: hi - whats the problem?
[12:07] <computer_> ive been using it for 4 months...no surpprise...ye :)
[12:07] <computer_> yet*
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> let's hear it, zayan
[12:07] <zayan> do any of you know where can i meet backtrack users
[12:08] <zayan> On XCHAT
[12:08] <dr_willis> !backtrack
[12:08] <zayan> yeah
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> zayan  /join #backtrack-linux
[12:08] <dr_willis> their web site most likely gives their irc channel info also..
[12:08] <zayan> thanks
[12:08] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:09] <computer_> i use to pay sprint 30 dollars extra for wifi/usb tethering...not anymore :) now its free
[12:09] <dr_willis> untill they send you a nasty bill.. but thats ot for here...
[12:09] <computer_> :)
[12:10] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:10] <dr_willis> Ive been using some app called 'clockworkmod teather' uses usb cable only.
[12:10] <xavicolomer> Hello!
[12:10] <dr_willis> zayan:  notice any messages about the channel being registered nicks only?
[12:10] <computer_> is it free?
[12:10] <zayan> how do i register
[12:10] <dr_willis> computer_:  like $5 i think. i just used the demo a little
[12:10] <dr_willis> !register
[12:11] <fidel> zayan: #help
[12:11] <shape> aboudreault: Did you fix the issue (sorry I had to brb)
[12:11] <zayan> ok i see
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> zayan  just entered backtrack channel, 208 nicks
[12:11] <xavicolomer> Is anybody here? I need a little help installing a nginx module, and they say in this channel you may help
[12:11] <xavicolomer> I get:
[12:11] <xavicolomer> make: *** [config.status.extras] Error 1
[12:11] <xavicolomer> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[12:11] <zayan> no i dont know
[12:12] <xavicolomer> Any idea?
[12:12] <zayan> can you help me to register
[12:12] <computer_> downloading the free version...
[12:12] <fidel> zayan: this is an ubuntu help channel
[12:12] <dr_willis> zayan:  help on that in #freenode
[12:12] <fidel> not a freenode help channel ;)
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> zayan  no need to register, see my previous comment
[12:12] <shape> aboudreault: What you generally need is to enable hardware acceleration or change the video output (i.e. in SMplayer you could change it to gl (fast)
[12:12] <fl1bbl3> zayan: some channels do need you to be registered.  For help "/msg NickServ help"
[12:13] <Pici> !register | zayan
[12:13] <mathews> #register
[12:14] <computer_> looks like the free version works
[12:14] <computer_> hmm
[12:14] <computer_> nice
[12:14] <computer_> pdanet does the same though
[12:14] <computer_> but yours work with linux
[12:14] <computer_> yeah!
[12:14] <computer_> :)
[12:15] <computer_> thanks
[12:15]  * computer_ drinks a shoot of sailer jerry
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> zayan: backtrack channel isn't +r (like MonkeyDust said) so no need to register to speak
[12:16] <computer_> any text to speech for linux?
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> yes
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> but its not great
[12:16] <fl1bbl3> festival
[12:16] <computer_> :(
[12:17] <sacarlson> computer_: yes but not many the reverse speach to text
[12:17] <computer_> what languages does it work with?
[12:17] <computer_> which is a good one?
[12:17] <fl1bbl3> computer_: http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
[12:17] <paulus68> what is a good tutorial to create a preseed file?
[12:18] <fl1bbl3> languages as in english/french or as in perl/python?
[12:18] <shape> LOL
[12:18] <computer_> !preseed
[12:19] <computer_> nothing
[12:19] <mathews> "Grub2 will be installed in the MBR!" what it means?
[12:19] <fl1bbl3> master boot record
[12:19] <meet> i have a game which worked well on my laptop ubuntu 11.10 with wine. But i tried installing it on ubuntu 10.04 it did not work. instead the computer goes in hibernation. what can i do?
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> computer_  sweex
[12:20] <fidel> meet: check the game-reuirements in the first place - if you are talking about 2 different boxes
[12:20] <computer_> !sweex
[12:21] <Pici> !msgthebot
[12:21] <meet> i had winxp on this system before and the game worked on it properly. morever its a small game of 30mb. @ fidel
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> Hey guys! I'
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> Ups
[12:21] <sirriffsalot_> I'm having trouble installing opera in the software center...
[12:21]  * computer_ drinks a shoot of sailer jerry
[12:21] <computer_> im real tipsy now
[12:21] <computer_> :)
[12:22] <Paarthunax> mathews, MBR is a part of the hard disk which cares for booting the systems.
[12:22] <rich__> not sure if im asking this on the right channel but i have installed precise  devlopment branch i am trying to resolve some issues  how can i find out exactly witch stage of this i am running so i can look up the correct info
[12:23] <Paarthunax> Guys, excuse me. what does 'Join-part revolving door attempt' mean? I got banned from a channel
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> rich__  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:23] <rich__> ty
[12:23] <Pici> Paarthunax: Please ask in #freenode
[12:23] <Paarthunax> Just because I closed the wondow and tried to join the channel again
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Paarthunax  i guess if you enter/leave too often, it's like a revolving door
[12:24] <fl1bbl3> join flood
[12:24] <sirriffsalot_> When I try to open the opera .deb file in the software center it says "Internal error. The file "home/sirriffsalot/downloads/opera_XXXXXXX.deb" could not be opened." any ideas?
[12:24] <Paarthunax> I just did this once and by mistake _ _* .. thank you both
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  isnt opera in the repos?
[12:25] <sirriffsalot_> MonkeyDust: do explain^^
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  the repos are the ubuntu software sources
[12:25] <meet> i have a game which worked well on my laptop ubuntu 11.10 with wine. But i tried installing it on ubuntu 10.04 it did not work. instead the computer goes in hibernation. what can i do?
[12:25] <sirriffsalot_> MonkeyDust: which should be enabled for opera?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  try third party
[12:26] <sirriffsalot_> Ok, hang on:)
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> sirriffsalot_  apt-get update after you set it active
[12:26] <sirriffsalot_> Both were already ticked...
[12:26] <fl1bbl3> meet: and the version of wine you are using is identical?
[12:27] <meet> ya 1.3
[12:27] <nlici> Hi to everybody
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> sirriffsalot_: what happens if you do "sudo dpkg -i <path to deb>"
[12:27] <meet> but one is on ubuntu 11.10 (worked) and the other is 10.04
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> meet: do you need to run 10.04?
[12:27] <fl1bbl3> and/or do you need to run the game?
[12:27] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: I did that, and it installs fine, but I need the flash-plugins afterwords, which I then can't find in synaptic etc...=(
[12:28] <meet> i got an old desktop. should i try installing 11.10?
[12:28] <fl1bbl3> sirriffsalot_: but all software center is going to do is exactly that command
[12:28] <nlici> question: i downloaded from the ubuntu s.center Gfax program but as i see it is not working can you advice me any kind of fax program and inorder and how can i install the driver of the fax modem ?Thanks in advance
[12:28] <shape> meet How old. Ubuntu 11.10 has low system requirements in the first place.
[12:28] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: well... the problem is still here:P
[12:29] <nlici> question 2 :what makes my computer work slow i have new computer )desctop)and it works with ubuntu .
[12:29] <meet> fl1bbl3 the thing is i promised my mom that this game and all her activities which she did on winxp(which was way 2 slow ) can be done easiiy so she agreed to migrate but now its not wokring
[12:29] <meet> 10 yrs old shape
[12:29] <shape> meet: so if it works on 11.10 why not try installing it?
[12:29] <meet> shape: 1.6ghz, 512 mb ram, pentium 4 :) i think that it wont work on
[12:30] <Somelauw> I tried festival, but it says one word of my input and then displays [12:30] <MonkeyDust> nlici  start with sudo apt)get autoremove to get rid of obsolote packages
[12:30] <sirriffsalot_> fl1bbl3: so what now?:)
[12:30] <meet> i think it ubuntu 11.10 would be to slow and sluggish on these specs.. whats ur say?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> nlici  start with sudo apt-get autoremove to get rid of obsolote packages
[12:30] <meet> @ shape
[12:30] <shape> meet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:31] <meet> shape: will a live session give me a true idea of how it will work?
[12:31] <nlici> so which one do i have to use as a fax modem program ?
[12:32] <shape> meet: yes. And also Xubuntu in case Ubuntu is too sluggish. Take a look on that page for alternatives.
[12:33] <meet> shape:i tried lubuntu but i like gnome so ditched it for ubuntu 10.04. lubuntu 11.10 worked well but i guess it was bcos of lxfe or that :D
[12:33] <fhsales> People, does anyone know hot to print from a pdf file?
[12:34] <Somelauw> fhsales: Open it in evince and press ctrl-p
[12:34] <shape> meet: I have almost the same system (8 years old), and Ubuntu works perfectly. Except I have 2GB ram rather than 512MB
[12:35] <fhsales> Somelauw:  what is evince? i dont know :?
[12:35] <shape> meet: 11.10
[12:35] <Somelauw> fhsales: your pdf reader. Just double click the pdf to open it. Then go to file and press print.
[12:35] <meet> shape: i guess the ram factor will be vital.. but still i will try the live session.. btw if i post the wine error msg which i got through the terminal while running the game .exe file will it be helpful?
[12:36] <shape> meet: I wouldnt be able to help you with that but someone else might.
[12:37] <meet> ok..
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !find fax | nlici
[12:37] <zayan> I realliy dont know how to register to backtrack chat
[12:37] <Pici> zayan: the folks in #freenode can help you with that
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> zayan  you don't have to, just type /join #backtrack-linux
[12:38] <zayan> it says cannot send to channel
[12:38] <hi675445> can we take about xubuntu some times it as grate as ubuntu
[12:38] <hi675445> lol
[12:39] <mcb_> join /#backtrack-linux
[12:40] <Pici> zayan: again, please join #freenode for help registering, they are very helpful there. we like to keep #ubuntu free for Ubuntu support only.
[12:40] <nlici> MonkeyDust@thanks
[12:41] <hi675445> chmod +x promison i xubuntu
[12:42] <nlici> i download the efax but how can i run it even i can not find the icon please help
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> nlici  try alf-f2 efax
[12:43] <nlici> i can not find it from ubuntu s.center do i have to download it from the site?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> nlici  use synaptic
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> or apt-get
[12:46] <rotham> hey.. im trying to copy files to a harddrive i formatted originally with windows 7, and im getting an error about a read only hard file system
[12:46] <rotham> any ideas what would cause this?
[12:46] <nlici> thx
[12:46] <escott> rotham, install ntfs-3g
[12:46] <escott> rotham, then unmount/remount the fs
[12:47] <rotham> escott - already installed
[12:47] <Charlotte4u> Why Ubuntu is better Then Windows 7 ?
[12:48] <KM0201> Charlotte4u: that's a loaded question.. spend some time with Google
[12:49] <mathews> Charlotte4u, feel the freedom with Ubuntu
[12:49] <escott> rotham, then check the output of mount and verify it is being mounted with fuseblk (ntfs-3g) and not in kernel ntfs driver
[12:50] <shape> Charlotte4u: You can watch naughty movies on the web without ever worrying about viruses!!
[12:50] <Stanley00> Charlotte4u: I think the best way to know is finding out what Ubuntu mean and try it yourself
[12:51] <MTRX> o_O
[12:52] <aboudreault> shape, checked glxinfo output and Direct rendering was set to Yes (not opengl)
[12:52] <aboudreault> I use nvidia proprietary drivers
[12:53] <shape> aboudreault: which player
[12:53] <aboudreault> shape, vlc
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Charlotte4u  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[12:53] <AaronMT> !edgy
[12:54] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: interesting link..
[12:55] <bouma> im trying to sort out a wierd issue with my grub menus. i originally had ubuntu 11.10 on sdc2. then i installed the 1204beta 2 to sda1, afterwards i ran update-grub from 11.10 and it detected pangolin and added it to the sdc boot menu. but i want to just boot straight into sda.
[12:58] <bouma> when i run update-grub under 1204, it finds vmlinuz-3.2 from 12.04 and the older ub 11.10 (as well as memtest and a win7). this is what i want, but when i reboot it seems like sda is just redirecting straight to sdc and giving me the old boot menu where precise is under a submenu
[12:58] <bouma> i've looked at /boot/grub/grub.cfg and it looks alright
[12:59] <mmorena> Hola grupo... Hello group!
[12:59] <bouma> grub2 is a bit different from 1, im not sure which of the many grub-* tools might be helpful
[13:00] <gvo> !12.04 | bouma
[13:01] <yzhd> I'm trying to sync cm7 source. I'm following this guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Compile_CyanogenMod_(Linux)  -----      but when I type in the git core command, I get this error: E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate. I read that it was removed because of license issues? Any suggestions on what I can do? Thanks.
[13:02] <chriswk> yzhd: just install openjdk-6-jdk instead
[13:02] <giuseppe_> #ubuntu-it
[13:02] <yzhd> chriswk, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk ?
[13:03] <gvo> yzhd: and remove the sun-java6... from the git command line
[13:03] <chriswk> yzhd: yes
[13:03] <yzhd> gvo, how? Sorry, I'm a newb at ubuntu
[13:03] <chriswk> replace the sun-java6-jdk with openjdk-6-jdk
[13:04] <gvo> You typed in git .... sun-java6 ....  just don't add that package when you type the command.
[13:04] <gvo> Use git-core gnupg flex bison gperf libsdl1.2-dev libesd0-dev libwxgtk2.6-dev squashfs-tools build-essential zip curl libncurses5-dev zlib1g-dev  pngcrush schedtool
[13:05] <yzhd> done
[13:05] <yzhd> it's installing :/
[13:05] <yzhd> :)
[13:07] <yzhd> I have a 32-bit system, but I read that gingerbread will only work for 64 bit systems. There is a workaround.. but shall I do that after or before I have synced the source?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> yzhd  you may need ia32-libs
[13:10] <KM0201> MonkeyDust: i thought ia32libs worked the other way around (32bit software on 64bit os)
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> (me re-reads question)
[13:11] <PedroGomes> HI guys, on a preseed operation, how can I chose the option "Guided - reuse partition, SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda)" on partman
[13:11] <PedroGomes> I have tried "d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select Guided - reuse partition, SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #3 (sda)" but it doesn't work
[13:12] <AnToStArLiGhT> .org
[13:15] <bali> hey
[13:15] <bali> i need an app for my blackberry Bold 9000
[13:16] <bali> one like the blackberry desktop
[13:27] <meet> i installed wine through the software center. i want to install that same software on another pc with no internet connection. where can i find the .deb package of wine?
[13:28] <zykotick9> meet: fyi DEBs you download with any APT program get stored in /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:29] <meet> but the wine package is not there zykotick9
[13:29] <Stanley00> meet: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[13:29] <zykotick9> meet: really, odd.
[13:30] <eldani> someone could please help me with my live stream radio? i want to live steam my desktop using idjc or another software
[13:30] <eldani> i cannot find any helpful advice online
[13:32] <meet> any other place to look for? zykotick9
[13:33] <upset> I'd like to write a theme for Unity 2d, but I've never written one before and I don't think I understand what components Ubuntu still uses. Bare minimum I need what, gtk3, metactiy, and unity themes?
[13:39] <tjiggi_fo> meet, try: whereis
[13:41] <Alyssa_> does rsync -avz delete anything in the dest dir
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> Alyssa_  no, you need --delete for that
[13:41] <Alyssa_> odd…..i wonder why 212gb of data has disappeared
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> 212 is a lot of data to disappear
[13:44] <Alyssa_> yup
[13:44] <iexplore> every one here using ubuntu
[13:45] <iexplore> ??
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> iexplore  most likely yes
[13:45] <eldani> someone could please help me with live streaming my desktop in ubuntu?
[13:46] <eldani> i want to use IDJC but if you suggest other software is ok, this is for an internet radio
[13:47] <Alyssa_> eldani: such as vnc?
[13:48] <eldani> i dunno, i have a radio in caster.fm and idjc
[13:48] <eldani> my goal is to stream live an interview
[13:48] <eldani> using skype
[13:48] <eldani> and if possible, my desktop, but i would be happy with skype
[13:49] <triple-09> assalamualaikum,...
[13:49] <eldani> alyssa, u know how to do this?
[13:52] <Alyssa_> eldani a google search reveals http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577914 … pls don't pm me without asking first
[13:53] <eldani> i already tried that thread...maybe i will have another look, but it did not work
[13:57] <bouma> when i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, it doesnt ask for which device to install to? how does it get determined ?
[14:00] <drecute> my NIS server is on windows server and I have configured ubuntu as nis client which works pretty well. with ypcat passwd I can see all the mapped users
[14:00] <drecute> to authenticate with one of them on ubuntu via x11rdp, do I need to setup each of those users locally?
[14:11] <shaneo> can someone assist me with a winbind error on Ubuntu 11.10 amd64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/932563/
[14:12] <fartofagony> hi
[14:12] <fartofagony> do games run better on ubuntu / linux?
[14:12] <kbitz> than? Windows? than they used to?
[14:12] <bazhang> !appdb | fartofagony check here
[14:13] <fartofagony> than windows yes
[14:13] <kbitz> some do; some don't
[14:13] <auronandace> fartofagony: want to play windows games, the best platform for that is windows
[14:13] <bazhang> fartofagony, /join #winehq for particular games after checking the appdb
[14:13] <kbitz> the ones that run bettor on linux typically are written to
[14:13] <Tinkerer1> heyhey psad blocked an IP adress for the first time on my server, should I be worried? http://pastebin.com/6gFNnQZU
[14:13] <fartofagony> ah, was thinking of the whole OS using the cpu
[14:14] <fartofagony> ubuntu seems smoother and doesnt run unnessecary things
[14:14] <kbitz> FoA, yes, but windows games typically require all those unnecessary things
[14:15] <kbitz> wine is really good and improving all the time, though.  give it a look
[14:15] <fartofagony> kbitz: wouldnt wine have the things neede to run games as they should be run? those that work in wine
[14:15] <hayden_ru> http://www.winehq.org/
[14:15] <kbitz> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:15] <kbitz> search that page for the game you're looking for and it'll rate its support from nothing to platinum
[14:15] <fartofagony> in the repository, do they have the latest wine?
[14:15] <fartofagony> ahh
[14:15] <fartofagony> thanks
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, No, but it's close...
[14:16] <bazhang> fartofagony, you need to check there, then join the #winehq channel once you have done that for particular apps
[14:16] <fartofagony> thanks guys!
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, You can install the lastest versions of Wine by following the instructions on the WineHQ page to install Wine from PPA.
[14:16] <kbitz> huh, bioshock 1 is wine-platinum
[14:16] <cypher-neo> fartofagony, The latest version of Wine is wine1.4
[14:16] <kbitz> that's awesome
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> or you could buy a windows key
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> and use windows
[14:17] <kbitz> never buy a windows key.  get somebody else to buy it for you
[14:17] <kbitz> "hey, uhh, i really need windows . . . for work"
[14:17] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[14:17] <kbitz> sorry
[14:23] <erkon> hi, guys.Can you tell me how I can block all udp connections to remote port?
[14:25] <drecute> my NIS server is on windows server and I have configured ubuntu as nis client which works pretty well. with ypcat passwd I can see all the mapped users
[14:25] <drecute> to authenticate with one of them on ubuntu via x11rdp, do I need to setup each of those users locally?
[14:25] <jhutchins_wk> On an RHEL6 system, I get password warnings in /var/log/secure.  On an RHEl4.9 system I do not.  Is this a difference in configuration, or a difference between the releases?
[14:25] <liberal> erkon: iptables -I OUTPUT -p udp --dport <dport> -j DROP
[14:26] <bazhang> jhutchins_wk, ask in #rhel or similar
[14:26] <erkon> liberal:  thank you
[14:26] <auronandace> jhutchins_wk: wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[14:26] <jhutchins_wk> bazhang: Sorry, thought I was there.
[14:26] <liberal> erkon: you'll need to make sure that gets saved and applied at boot.
[14:27] <erkon> this will block all conections to that remote port, the destination does not matter, right?
[14:27] <erkon> how to do that?
[14:27] <Doodie> hi, I want to be able to be logged into my router homepage (192.168.x.x) via its IP address. When I enter IP address of router, the webpage is busy but loads noting.
[14:27] <EriksLV> hi!
[14:27] <liberal> any outbound udp packet to remote port <dport> will not leave the box.
[14:28] <EriksLV> just a quick question: release date for 12.04?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> EriksLV  april 26
[14:28] <erkon> ok.If I put that command in rc.local it will work i guess
[14:28] <EriksLV> thanks MonkeyDust
[14:28] <bazhang> !12.04 | EriksLV
[14:28] <liberal> erkon: I imagine it should, though I am not familiar with ubuntu, or the appropriate way of saving and applying firewall rules in it.
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> auronandace: Sorry, my nick registration lapsed and irssi didn't change channels when I thought it had.
[14:29] <drecute> anyone have an idea?
[14:29] <erkon> ok thank you
[14:29] <bazhang> Doodie, hows your router related to ubuntu support
[14:30] <liberal> iptables has a iptables-save and a iptables-restore binary.
[14:30] <sai> hi
[14:30] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: You will need to create a home directory for the user somehow.  Not sure how that's usually done in an NIS environment.
[14:30] <liberal> s/appropriate/preferred/
[14:31] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: Sometimes /home is shared via NFS.
[14:31] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i solaris i use autohome. works pretty well
[14:31] <LinuxFreakD> Mint 12 (I know, not clean Ubuntu but I can't get to their IRC). I just updated NVIDIA to 295.40 and everything seems to be good but when I load into desktop, even though everything looks right, my mouse won't move and my keyboard commands do nothing. Like it is locked up. However it is not locked up as I can still SSH to my box and issue commands. Any suggestions before I give up and reinstall?
[14:32] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, go to mintsupport not here
[14:32] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i just want to know if I need to create those windows NIS users locally on ubuntu before users can authenticate on ubuntu
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang, there's a mint support channel on the ubuntu server, thanks!
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> #join mintsupport
[14:32] <jhutchins_wk> drecute: No.
[14:32] <drecute> FYI, ubuntu is added to windows AD
[14:32] <LinuxFreakD> join# mintsupport
[14:32] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, its on spotchat
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> dang been awhile
[14:33] <jhutchins_wk> lin //
[14:33] <bazhang> !mintsupport | LinuxFreakD
[14:33] <auronandace> !mint | LinuxFreakD
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang. I don't know what that means. I have not been in IRC in about a year or two
[14:33] <jhutchins_wk> Ah, lag
[14:33] <LinuxFreakD> thx
[14:33] <borsin> LinuxFreakD: did you try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[14:34] <auronandace> LinuxFreakD: /connect irc.spotchat.org (then /join #linuxmint-help)
[14:34] <LinuxFreakD> borsin, ya. I don't think it's my drivers. I spent about 4 hours working on that and now it all loads up properly, nvidia appears to be working right. Just locks up the desktop.
[14:34] <LinuxFreakD> auronandace: thanks!
[14:35] <borsin> LinuxFreakD: it will rewrite your entire xorg.conf and possibly fix the mouse problem
[14:35] <bazhang> borsin, feel free to support him there
[14:36] <fartofagony> if installing wubi, will windows and wubi be up and ru8nning at the same time?
[14:36] <LinuxFreakD> borsin: I have already done it a couple times however I will run it again and report back in a min
[14:36] <|Anthony|> update manager is prompting me to install nvidia-modaliases. I have installed nvidia binary from their site. Can i safely install this update, or can i safely ignore it?
[14:37] <bazhang> LinuxFreakD, feel free to go to PM or in the mintsupport channel
[14:37] <bazhang> fartofagony, no they wont
[14:37] <fartofagony> oohh
[14:37] <fartofagony> nice
[14:38] <drecute> jhutchins_wk: i tried to authenticate with one of those nis users on ubuntu, but it didn't work
[14:38] <auronandace> fartofagony: but the ntfs partition will be in use
[14:38] <bazhang> |Anthony|, well if I understand you correctly, you went outside the package manager for that
[14:39] <|Anthony|> bazhang, to install the nvidia driver, yes
[14:39] <l3d> is there a way to export and then inport the sources list from ubuntu to another one
[14:40] <LinuxFreakD> bazhang: I am going to mint also to talk to them though I doubt the issue is specific to mint unless it's due to lightdm. The only reason I am still here is I was trying the suggestions of others related to NVIDIA which isn't distro specific. I will be gone shortly, for not pretend I didn't use the word mint.
[14:40] <auronandace> l3d: copy and paste the file, make sure you are doing it for the same release (don't mix releases)
[14:41] <LinuxFreakD> borsin: Ya, tried it again and no luck. Probably not an nvidia problem. Going to talk to the mint guys before I do a reinstall.
[14:41] <l3d> right both 10.10
[14:41] <cloudgeek> let i type clear on bash it take me top of it , but how can i undo this command if i need that data again
[14:41] <Tinkerer1> heyhey psad blocked an IP adress for the first time on my server, should I be worried? http://pastebin.com/6gFNnQZU
[14:41] <auronandace> l3d: 10.10 is no longer supported
[14:42] <auronandace> !10.10 | l3d
[14:42] <LinuxFreakD> auronandace: connection refused when I tried to connect to spotchat
[14:43] <cloudgeek> how we can undo the clear command on the bash
[14:43] <ikonia> LinuxFreakD: not our problem, read the linux mint website
[14:43] <auronandace> LinuxFreakD: sorry we can't help with that
[14:43] <l3d> well thats to bad I hate the way 11.10 or high looks and feels the gm sucks but that my opinion.
[14:43] <auronandace> l3d: is it just unity you don't like? i use 11.10 without unity
[14:44] <LinuxFreakD> ikonia: ah well thanks for politely letting me know it's an issue with mint and not something wrong with IRC. I will check their website
[14:44] <l3d> is there a d/l for 11.10 with out unity
[14:44] <ikonia> it's not an issue with mint, the irc channel is up and running, I'm in it. The details of how to connect are listed on the mint website
[14:45] <auronandace> l3d: sure, xubuntu, kubuntu and lubuntu and of course the mini iso
[14:45] <l3d> no normal gnome
[14:46] <bazhang> !notunity | l3d
[14:46] <auronandace> l3d: gnome3 is available via the repos, you'd need to use the mini iso
[14:46] <bazhang> auronandace, 11.10 uses it already
[14:46] <auronandace> bazhang: i meant that if you wanted to avoid having unity at all
[14:47] <fartofagony> how hard is it to find and install graphic card drivers in ubuntu?
[14:47] <bazhang> l3d, gnome3 is the 'normal gnome' unity is a shell. as is gnome-shell
[14:47] <auronandace> fartofagony: depends on graphics
[14:47] <l3d> ok
[14:47] <bazhang> fartofagony, depends on the card. ancient ones, or Sis and the like
[14:47] <fartofagony> auronandace: like manufactur?
[14:47] <auronandace> fartofagony: yes
[14:48] <bazhang> fartofagony, yes. intel is in the kernel generally
[14:48] <bazhang> well dkms
[14:48] <fartofagony> auronandace: know about ati radeon ones? thinking of uninstalling windows completely. am afraid of failure, then id be stuck with nothing
[14:49] <auronandace> fartofagony: wrong person to ask, i use nvidia
[14:49] <auronandace> !ati | fartofagony
[14:49] <fartofagony> ahh ok, thakns
[14:50] <renode> how do you view a daemonized process?
[14:50] <fl1bbl3> what do you mean "view"?
[14:50] <renode> such as over ssh
[14:50] <fl1bbl3> define "view"
[14:51] <renode> not the fact that its running, but the output
[14:51] <renode> sorry about that
[14:51] <fl1bbl3> depends on the process
[14:52] <renode> if the proccess allows it, how would i go about doing it?
[14:53] <van> -*-
[14:55] <fl1bbl3> renode: usually with a daemonized process you would expect it to have logging enabled
[14:56] <fl1bbl3> therefore usually /var
[14:56] <fl1bbl3> or syslog
[14:56] <username> amos
[14:57] <renode> ahhh ty fl1bbl3
[14:57] <Iszak> Is there any way to go up directories (recursively) until a folder name is matched?
[14:58] <Iszak> through the command line that is. e.g. cd ..*foo or something
[14:58] <Iszak> because often the folder I want is a few levels up say three, and I cba doing cd ../../../
[14:59] <escott> Iszak, ksh has some more advanced globbing it might do something like that
[14:59] <Iszak> kornshell?
[15:00] <Iszak> escott: can you give me an example or a url to read more about ksh?
[15:02] <escott> Iszak, i dont use them myself i just know that one of the things ksh/zsh are noted for are globbing
[15:02] <escott> Iszak, http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/07/fancy-globbing-with-zsh-on-linux-and.html
[15:03] <Iszak> epic
[15:04] <escott> Iszak, or just pwd with some awk
[15:04] <Iszak> that's too long tbh
[15:04] <Iszak> and that only works for parents, what about children?
[15:04] <fellayaboy> hey usually ill do cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history and itll erase all my history but when i put it in the rc.local stgartup script it never works...i know rc.local is activiated
[15:04] <Iszak> sure, find command, but again, less than desirable.
[15:09] <escott> Iszak, foo(){
[15:09] <escott> > cd `pwd | sed -e "s#\(.*/$1\)/.*#\1#"`
[15:09] <escott> > }
[15:10] <escott> Iszak, and what you are describing wouldn't work for children. what if there are multiple subdirs matching the pattern?
[15:10] <Iszak> you'd just match the first one.
[15:10] <Iszak> bang, done.
[15:11] <Iszak> or print out the possible opportunities citing ambiguity
[15:13] <escott> fellayaboy, have you checked roots bash_history. I'm pretty sure its gone
[15:14] <txdv> how do i make services stop starting automatically on startup?
[15:14] <escott> fellayaboy, also there is a command for this history -c
[15:15] <fellayaboy> escott oh so hisgtory -c will clear it
[15:15] <dr_willis> txdv:  upstart services get started from their /etc/init/whateer.conf file. you can rename it to be like whatever.dontrun (is one way)
[15:15] <dr_willis> !upstart
[15:15] <fellayaboy> oh look at that ur right
[15:15] <fellayaboy> thanks
[15:16] <txdv> yeah but there must be some default naming conventions or tools that do that job for me
[15:16] <fellayaboy> so if i where to do cat /dev/null > ~/.bash_history it will only clear the roots history rather than the user?
[15:16] <fellayaboy> if i put it in rc.local??...
[15:16] <dr_willis> txdv:  not sure of any gui tools that do that for upstart
[15:16] <txdv> command lines are good enough
[15:17] <dr_willis> rename foo.conf to foo.dontrun is all i ever do ;)
[15:17] <txdv> the dirty linux way
[15:17] <txdv> oo you bad boy
[15:17] <dr_willis> txdv:  err.. its how the upstart docs say to do it i belive.
[15:17] <dr_willis> or edit the .conf file and put some dontstart item in it i recall.
[15:18] <txdv> how about the rc* directories?
[15:18] <txdv> the service i want not to start appears to be in thereand not in init
[15:19] <dr_willis> those are not 'upstart' services.  those are the old sysv type services.
[15:19] <escott> fellayaboy, you can put it in rc.local you just have to think about who the script runs as. what i dont understand is why you would want to do this
[15:19] <vevais> Hello
[15:19] <txdv> any keywords i can use to google them
[15:19] <dr_willis> !sysv
[15:19] <txdv> yeah im using 11.04
[15:19] <fellayaboy> escott so i could clear the bash history of course why else
[15:19] <escott> fellayaboy, but why?
[15:19] <dr_willis> upstart is actually handling the sysv stuff these days.
[15:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, im trying to install libffi and it's hanging on the line "libtool: link: ranlib .libs/libffi_convenience.a" - anyone got any ideas whats going on?
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> this is in the make
[15:20] <escott> fellayaboy, if you just want less bash history thats easily modified by changing .bashrc. if you want to disable history you can do that
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> hang on
[15:20] <fellayaboy> dont like people viewing my history..file i edit...plus loony balloonies trying to copy my commands and doing stuff they dont know how to do
[15:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> i had the console scrolled up *facepalm*
[15:21] <fellayaboy> escott how do i disable bash history
[15:21] <dr_willis> make the history file only readble by root.. :)
[15:21] <escott> fellayaboy, presumably set these to 0 # for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1)
[15:21] <escott> HISTSIZE=1000
[15:21] <escott> HISTFILESIZE=2000
[15:21] <snaky90> Hi
[15:21] <FloodBot1> escott: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <yeik> My ubuntu box is competely freezing. it has done it twice in the last two weeks. I can't ping it, or get alt+sysreq reisub to even do anything.
[15:23] <fellayaboy> OK HOLD ON brb
[15:23] <yeik> is there any logs or anything i can look at that might hint what it is doing or causing it to freeze?
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> yeik  demsg
[15:23] <snaky90> If I install Ubuntu 12.04 daily now, Ubuntu will update every day before de final build ¿?
[15:24] <dr_willis> snaky90:  yes
[15:24] <yeik> you mean dmesg?
[15:24] <snaky90> ok
[15:24] <dr_willis> !final
[15:24] <yeik> MonkeyDust, you mean dmesg?
[15:24] <snaky90> These updates would be like having the final version, right ?
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> !dmesg| yeik
[15:25] <dr_willis> i always install the rc, then update the day or 2 befor release.. then wait a week or 2 after release to update again. due to the servers getting overloaded on release day
[15:26] <fellayaboy> escott perfect that worked for me
[15:26] <fellayaboy> excellent
[15:26] <yeik> MonkeyDust, you originally said demsg, which is why i asked for clarification
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> yeik  it was a typo
[15:27] <fellayaboy> clear
[15:27]  * yeik nods
[15:27] <yeik> thats why I asked.
[15:28] <yeik> Is there anything important I am suppose to see other than it initializing hardware and stuff since i rebooted? it doesn't seem to have anything from the time it was frozen
[15:28] <balaber> hi
[15:29] <dr_willis> dmesg logs are not kept over reboots.
[15:29] <balaber> can someone help me with my suspend to ram isue?
[15:29] <yeik> how does that help me figure out why it froze?
[15:29] <dr_willis> monitoring dmesg via ssh from a remote box may catch somthing when it freezes
[15:30] <corehook> hi all, after upgrading (dont remember what packets) my ubuntu cant startup...i send 'text nomodeset' params in grub and see that loading stand at "Stopping userpsace bootsplash" [ OK ]
[15:30] <dr_willis> could be some hardware glitz, or power surge also.  or other very hard to catch reason.
[15:30]  * yeik nods
[15:30] <yeik> I usually am over ssh with screen.
[15:30] <fellayaboy> ive been having a problem with my vpn server..it seems that it wont take any kind of vpn..not even pptp or openvpn...i just keep getting a failed to connect....it use to work but all of a sudden it stopped...even without me editing anything..all i did was an update...my vpn server is ubuntu 10.04 desktop edition
[15:31] <yeik> it happened overnight, the computer is attached to a ups
[15:31] <fellayaboy> if i do a ifconfig i see as0t0 through as0t3 connection
[15:31] <fellayaboy> i did a iptables -F but nothing seems to work right...what could it be...could it be bugs?
[15:32] <djszapi> Hey! Is it okay if the daemon part of my project is started automatically by an upstart job put into the /etc/init/ folder with the ubuntu desktop version ? Is there a better interface for that like we had /etc/init/apps on Harmattan ?
[15:32] <balaber> can someone help me with my suspend to ram isue? the suspend section looks good but wen i wont to resume i always get a reboot or a "new session" instead of my old suspended session
[15:34] <Steeltip> Is there anyone who would be so kind to tell me if i can reserve local outgoing ports for an application, i.e. apache
[15:35] <balaber> @steetltip do you want to see your open ports?
[15:35] <escott> Steeltip, only privileged processes can listen on ports <1024. what more do you need?
[15:36] <Steeltip> no, its the following problem: my apache listens on more then 4000 Ports and sometimes when i restart my apache i process like mount.nfs uses a port my apache is configured for , too
[15:36] <balaber> i need also help with my suspend sh** :)
[15:36] <Steeltip> any ideas ?
[15:37] <escott> Steeltip, you can restrict ports with iptables to specific groups. thats probably what you want to do
[15:38] <Steeltip> do you have a source for reading escott ?
[15:39] <Steeltip> how can i configure to block all apps on port 4000 - 8000 ? and only let apache bind the ports !?
[15:40] <escott> Steeltip, this shows how to prevent a user from using a port. the reverse would be to deny all and then enable that user http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block-outgoing-network-access-for-a-single-user-from-my-server-using-iptables.html
[15:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.. not sure if iptables has a per app type feature or not.
[15:40] <dr_willis> been ages since ive looked at iptables. :)
[15:40] <Steeltip> thanks for the hint escott, i will try
[15:41] <dr_willis> apache does run as the apache user i thought. so a per user blocking would be as good i guess.
[15:41] <escott> dr_willis, it would have to be by uid/gid. not sure how well it would work. esp if root opens the socket on behalf of the app
[15:41] <dr_willis> yea - this is the sort of stuff ive not needed to use in years...
[15:42] <dr_willis> i just recall some beginner guide stating 'windows blocks based on app' 'linux blocks based on port'    but that may have been a very very overgeneralization
[15:44] <escott> Steeltip, alternately take the ports yourself and then give them to apps you want to have them
[15:46] <savr> hi
[15:46] <savr> I am experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-rvm/+bug/935590
[15:47] <savr> do I add group admin?
[15:47] <kell> please is anyone using mac os dual boot with ubuntu.is there any driver problem or smthing like that?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> !mac| kell start here
[15:48] <kell> thks
[15:49] <Lil> What generates the motd?
[15:50] <savr> oh boy
[15:51] <savr> ubuntu 12.04 is buggy like hell
[15:51] <savr> this is like the 5th bug I ran into
[15:51] <escott> !precise | savr
[15:51] <bardyl> ncake-pirates.org
[15:51] <savr> are we going to make it for an april release
[15:52] <savr> escott, I know it is beta...
[15:52] <zenmaster> Just got my Dell PowerEdge 2800. :) Best home server I presonally have ever had.
[15:52] <bazhang> savr, wrong channel
[15:52] <savr> can't run eclipse or rvm
[15:53] <zenmaster> 16gb memory. Amazing to me.
[15:53]  * P1rate say happy easter
[15:57] <P1rate> Well i guess no IT problems today :/
[16:02] <redragoonz> is anyone here i have a quick question
[16:03] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I had to install opera via dpkg terminal since software center and synaptic gave me trouble... Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal as well?:) Cheers!
[16:03] <raj> is ~ a valid character in most operating systems?
[16:03] <raj> for a filename
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> "quick questions" often turn out to be most difficult ones, shoot!
[16:03] <datruth> I'm running kubuntu 11.10 and my /etc/apt/source.list has been removed where can I get another source.list file from?
[16:04] <redragoonz> how do i resize my home partition i have 10.04 lts on the one partition now but i need to resize my second partiton for backtrack 5 how would i do this considering i am mounted to my home drive?
[16:05] <rasusto> raj - yes, in fact emacs by default appends ~ to filenames to denote old versions
[16:05] <sirriffsalot> Anyone?:)
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> redragoonz  use gparted on a live cd, you cannot modify mounted partitions
[16:05] <raj> rasusto, thank you
[16:05] <raj> rasusto, what might be a good alternative?
[16:05] <redragoonz> ok and running it like that wont hurt my current unbunyu?
[16:05] <raj> besides _
[16:05] <Onewhohelps> hey raj
[16:05] <raj> I need to organize my files in such a manner
[16:06] <raj> hi
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> redragoonz  first backup your data to be sure
[16:06] <raj> rasusto, I say that, because I don't want these files to be confused for 'old' files by emacs users
[16:06] <Lil> What generates the motd?
[16:06] <redragoonz> thank you /monkeydust
[16:07] <escott> Lil, /etc/motd or you can configure an application to do it
[16:07] <hi675445> hi
[16:08] <bazhang> hi
[16:08] <hi675445> need dlp
[16:08] <bazhang> what?
[16:08] <hi675445> xubuntu user here
[16:08] <Lil> escott; I know that. But something generates it. Because it shows the server load and etc. I'm curious where/what script generates it.
[16:08] <bazhang> try #xubuntu
[16:08] <Pl3nar1us> hello all
[16:08] <Roj> سلام
[16:08] <Roj> تو ssh چطوری می تونم یه اسکریپت رو ران کنم
[16:08] <Roj> یه چنتا دستور ساده bash
[16:08] <hi675445> english please
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !en| Roj
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> beautiful characters, tho
[16:09] <oCean> !ir | Roj
[16:09] <satyanash> Unicode!
[16:09]  * satyanash wonders how they learn them
[16:10] <satyanash> If you select them, they get reversed..
[16:10] <Lint> satyanash, it
[16:10]  * rinzler wonders how they type them...
[16:10] <Lint> ´s  a bug in XChat
[16:11] <hi675445> love xchat sick and xubuntu
[16:11] <Roj> how i can run a bash script in ssh
[16:11] <hi675445> i see u guys
[16:12] <veryape> hrm, all of a sudden my 12.04 beta is not able to load jpeg/bnp/png and other image files in any of my graphical interfaces, they work if i open them in firefox but not in their defaults apps, any idea about what it could be and how to fix it? didn't find any useful information browsing ubuntuforums :/
[16:12] <need_helpp> hey, i need help please SKYPE it consume cpu 100% always i am using 64-bit ubuntu  , how i can fix it pls?
[16:12] <rasusto> Roj, what seems to be the problem?
[16:13] <Roj> -bash: ./download.sh: command not found
[16:13] <btorch> hello .. is there a way to have ubuntu automatically skip trying to mount drives that are not avaiable when they are still in the fstab ? right now book hangs waiting for someone to press "S" .. I've tried adding "nobootwait" into fstab but then that makes the box hang for a long time and I'm not sure what that is yet
[16:13] <Roj> chmod +x download.sh
[16:13] <Lil> escott; Found it. /etc/update-motd.d
[16:13] <rasusto> try adding the ssh command to the begining of the script
[16:13] <need_helpp> hey, i need help please SKYPE it consume cpu 100% always i am using 64-bit ubuntu  , how i can fix it pls?
[16:14] <rasusto> skype is non-free software that doesn't respect your freedums. The solution is to stop using skype.
[16:14] <Pessimist> need_helpp, I'm sorry but repeating the question doesn't help much. And afaik Ubuntu doesn't officialy support it because it's closed source
[16:15] <need_helpp> Pessimist,  sorry is there any software supported by ubuntu for skype ?
[16:16] <Pessimist> need_helpp: Skype is closed source and you won't get support here. Maybe try official skype forums
[16:16] <veryape> no idea about the problem with loading jpeg/bnp/png files? just getting "unrecognized image file format"
[16:17] <need_helpp> Pessimist,  ok thx is there any software i can use for voice/cam on ubuntu ?
[16:18] <meganerd> need_helpp: a few people I know use ekiga
[16:18] <Pessimist> need_helpp: Pidgin/Empathy
[16:19]  * sipior just shakes his head.
[16:19] <meganerd> need_helpp: I don't use video chat very often (maybe three times per year)
[16:20] <mimmo82> salve
[16:20] <mimmo82> !list
[16:21] <sipior> need_helpp: which version are you running?
[16:22] <need_helpp> sipior, ubuntu 64-bit 11.04
[16:22] <sipior> need_helpp: sorry, which skype version?
[16:22] <yeik> well cpuburn is running, i started 4 of them as it is a quad core
[16:22] <ccssddee> is there any linux comptabible newer than 2 out there?
[16:22] <ccssddee> is there any linux comptabible newer than 2 skyp out there?
[16:23] <need_helpp> sipior, 2.2
[16:23] <sipior> need_helpp: the beta?
[16:23] <need_helpp> sipior,  ya there's stable one ?
[16:23] <need_helpp> for ubuntu ?
[16:24] <Sarajevo> hi
[16:25] <sipior> need_helpp: looks like they've removed the 2.1 download links. wonderful.
[16:27] <fartofagony> do i have to type commands and stuff to install skype ?
[16:27] <auronandace> !skype | fartofagony
[16:28] <czytelnik> ED21K -34U
[16:29] <magicJ> I have a system that when I boot in recovery mode, or when I mount it after booting from a live USB stick all appears normal.  BUT, when I try and do passwd, or for that matter edit a file I get a message that it is write protected - how is this possible - If I am the root, which I am in those case
[16:30] <xharx__> when i use the update manager i get the following error message: why. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/407392/
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> hello, guys
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> do there's anyway to cleanup my ubuntu from all installed packages?
[16:30] <DelphiWorld> and live only my personal files?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  fresh install
[16:31] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: dificult for me, bro :(
[16:31] <DelphiWorld> mongy_: if i can set it up through console that would be fun. otherwise i can't read the screen
[16:32] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, not without nuking your system, you need to copy your files off manually via console and fresh-install, or just deal with excess cruft on your system
[16:32] <lombardi> google
[16:32] <EvilResistance> or via whatever method
[16:33] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: i can't use ubuntu installed without voice; i'm looking to set it up through a voicing system through serial console but that soon a bit dificult
[16:33] <Mikero_> Hi, can anyone help me with my wireless internet connection. It broke after updating to 12.04 and now chokes up every couple of minutes or so.
[16:34] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, i dont think there's anything that can help yo udo that...
[16:34] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: yes, that's my actual issue :(
[16:34] <EvilResistance> !12.04 | Mikero_
[16:34] <Debro> how i can set openJDK to work in chromium?
[16:34] <EvilResistance> DelphiWorld, then i think you're SOL
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  that's the easies way
[16:34] <DelphiWorld> EvilResistance: would be glad to make a automated boot menu to enable serial console
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> DelphiWorld  if you have a separate /home partition, fresh install takes about 15 minutes
[16:35] <DelphiWorld> MonkeyDust: i can backup my data; issue is how to fresh install it without eyes; that's all
[16:36] <Mikero_> EvilResistance: Thanks, so I'll hope waiting will fix it then
[16:37] <jjgalvez__> My computer just started crashing! I am trying to get a good backup but last night and today its been crashing before the backup is complete, any thoughts on which logs I should be looking in to trouble shoot?
[16:37] <EvilResistance> Mikero_, no, you should /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there is what i was saying
[16:40] <foobArrr> is there an easy way to bulk rename directories? I tried thunar rename and pyrenamer, but either I'm blind, or those only work with normal files and not directories.
[16:40] <roelforg> @jjgalvez Every one? Nah, try dmesg
[16:40] <roelforg> @foobArr bash script
[16:41] <jjgalvez__> roelforg: looking there now, so far not finding anything helpful :(
[16:42] <Pici> foobArrr: a combination of find and rename would work.  something like: find /some/path -type d -print0 | xargs -0 rename 's/foo/bar/'
[16:42] <roelforg> @jjgalvez You could try posting on the forums, a lot of people can help you there and it's easier then on a irc;;;; but it's slower
[16:42] <foobArrr> I'll try that, thanks
[16:42] <sirriffsalot> Hey guys! I had to install opera via dpkg terminal since software center and synaptic gave me trouble... Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal as well?:) Cheers!
[16:46] <jjgalvez__> roelforg: just did that thanks
[16:53] <masterkiller136> hello ubuntu users
[16:53] <roelforg> hello masterkiller136
[16:53] <longrifle0x> hello guys
[16:54] <triple-09> helooo :-D
[16:55] <triple-09> does anyone here used to programming with gambas? any one?
[16:56] <Scunizi> What thrashes a harddrive more.. accessing the system portion of the install or user data?
[16:56] <lacrymology> I just changed one of the files in ~/.gnome/apps, how can I have gnome reload the launchers?
[16:57] <karolus98> hello :) One I launch Linux, it alters  my grub.cfg, so Kubuntu becomes default OS (again). How to stop this and set Windows to default, permanently ?
[16:58] <llutz> karolus98: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober && sudo update-grub
[16:58] <datruth> I'm running kubuntu 11.10 and my /etc/apt/source.list has been removed where can I get another source.list file from?
[16:59] <karolus98> llutz: After changing default OS to my favorite, or before?
[17:00] <llutz> karolus98: this will put your windows (or better: any non-linux-OS found) first to the menu
[17:00] <jrib> datruth: you should be able to use software-properties-gtk to generate a new one
[17:00] <karolus98> llutz: Thanks : )
[17:00] <Scunizi> datruth: you may also have a sources.list~ as a backup.. just rename it.
[17:01] <sentriz> after doing 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell' it did loads of fancy stuff and is now stuck on Ldconfig deferred proccessing now taking place
[17:01] <Scunizi> datruth: if not you can use mine as the basis.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/932784/
[17:02] <karolus98> And last one ; D I don't know why, but Muon doesn't see most packages ,e.g. gcc, mesa-utils, etc... On the second machine it does work fine. Nothing has been changed. Any ideas?
[17:02] <datruth> Scunizi: thanks
[17:02] <chrisinthedark> I found this tool, I hope it will be helpful for you --> Pick random things at www.worandom.com
[17:02] <sentriz> after doing 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell' it did loads of fancy stuff and is now stuck on Ldconfig deferred proccessing now taking place
[17:02] <roelforg> sentriz, let it process
[17:02] <sentriz> ok
[17:02] <sentriz> so its doing something?
[17:02] <roelforg> it needs to update stuff
[17:02] <roelforg> yes
[17:02] <roelforg> the hd should be going crazy
[17:02] <sentriz> oh okay :D estimated time?
[17:03] <roelforg> dunno, depends. It's reindexing libs.
[17:03] <sentriz> Okay thank you :)
[17:04] <karolus98> Scunizi: could you post this list to somewhere, where I can download it as plain text without creating Launchpad account ;  )
[17:06] <datruth> Scunizi: http://pastebin.com/sZPxsHZ2 I am getting this even tho I dont see the url in the source.list
[17:06] <Scunizi> karolus98: ther's a "download as text" button.. shouldn't need a launchpad account to see the post.
[17:06] <i7c> i have a text file on my external harddrive, no suddenly the textfiles appear as #filename.txt# as well... anyone knows which program does that? o.O
[17:07] <datruth> nvm mind found it with the tool jrib suggested
[17:07] <karolus98> Scunizi: I don't mind. It redirects me to https://login.launchpad.net/8Dskq6bVp11hWsmV/+decide (formally: creating an account ;) )
[17:08] <Scunizi> datruth: what was the issue? why was it doing that?
[17:08] <TzeM> Know anyone how to find the package xchat irc in launchpad for translation?
[17:08] <Scunizi> karolus98: do you have a different pastebin account in mind?  I did this from cli automatically with pastebinit.
[17:09] <karolus98> Scunizi: Ok, solved ; ]
[17:09] <Scunizi> karolus98: How?  highlight > copy > paste ??
[17:09] <karolus98> Scunizi: No. Create an account, log, see as plain : ]
[17:10] <Scunizi> karolus98: ah.. I didn't realize that the paste's were tied to a launchpad account.
[17:10] <benjamin_> ss
[17:10] <benjamin_> cc
[17:10] <benjamin_> sa va???
[17:10] <benjamin_> enculer
[17:10] <benjamin_> cc
[17:10] <benjamin_> sa va???
[17:11] <karolus98> Scunizi: However, It's solved..  : ] ( By passing-by )
[17:11] <tensorpudding> !fr | benjamin_
[17:11] <benjamin_> coucou
[17:11] <bazhang> benjamin_, stop that
[17:11] <benjamin_> erghdodbkhfhfdui dfuy ghbsusb xydbxuqbxyedvu qshyxdvdgtayerjsbterque
[17:11]  * Scunizi boing
[17:11] <benjamin_> okaz
[17:12] <Stelpa> Could someone help me disable the Shift-F10 keyboard shortcut?
[17:12] <TzeM> Know anyone how to find the package xchat irc in launchpad for translation?
[17:15] <Scunizi> TzeM: check https://launchpad.net/xchat or join #xchat and ask
[17:16] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:16] <TzeM> Scunizi: tnx you
[17:16] <whitekidney> What plugin can I use to see windows media player web content?
[17:18] <Scunizi> whitekidney: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6051/how-to-install-windows-media-player-plugin-on-chromium
[17:18] <karolus98> thank you for assistance, bye ;)
[17:18] <TzeM> i find the http://translationproject.org/domain/xchat.html
[17:18] <sentriz|netbook> @roelforg - its still going -.- :P
[17:18] <TzeM> if someone need the site for translation
[17:19] <roelforg> sentriz, i once had it do that for 30 min, it depends on the install size
[17:19] <aakash> hey...can anyone tell me is there a 3d designing software in ubuntu...???
[17:19] <sentriz|netbook> its been nearly an hour now :P
[17:19] <Scunizi> aakash: like CAD software?
[17:19] <aakash> Scunizi : no idea about cad
[17:20] <aakash> is it like maya or something?>
[17:20] <Stelpa> so nobody can help me?
[17:20] <Scunizi> aakash: what do you want to design?  products.. graphics/video .. maya I think has a community edition.. there's also Blender
[17:20] <xichael> "missing operating system" is all i get when i try to boot from usb. i've used the Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com to load 11.10 Desktop onto the drive. any ideas what's wrong?
[17:21] <aakash> i am looking for a 3d designing software where i can design high definition objects and make them animate
[17:21] <roelforg> xichael, does your mobo support usb-boot?
[17:21] <sirriffsalot>  Does anyone know how to install the jack plugin for Opera via terminal? Had to install opera through dpkg...
[17:21] <xichael> yes. it's a dell mini 1018
[17:22] <padhu> xichael: from ubuntu or windows?
[17:22] <Scunizi> aakash: Blender.. there's lots of tutorials, examples etc.. it's in the repositories through the software center or synaptic.. also check out http://www.blender.org/
[17:22] <roelforg> xichael, is the usb in the boot order before the hd
[17:23] <roelforg> padhu, it doesn't boot any os, (i think)
[17:23] <xichael> yes, i'm using the f12 boot menu
[17:23] <Stelpa> i can't find anything on google, please someone help
[17:23] <starving_fridge> hi
[17:23] <padhu> xichael: install multisystem, then reinstall. then try again
[17:23] <starving_fridge> i've got a question
[17:23] <Scunizi> Stelpa: "anything" is hard to search for.
[17:23] <roelforg> xichael, modify the bootorder, i'm thinking a bios bug prevents it from listening ;)
[17:23] <Stelpa> Scunizi: i've stated my problem several times
[17:24] <starving_fridge> how to change a number of workplaces in 12.04
[17:24] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:24] <xichael> i'll try that...
[17:24] <padhu> xichael: Multi OS system?
[17:24] <Scunizi> Stelpa: well... perhaps there are people that have joined after your last post and didn't see what you posted previously....
[17:24] <aakash> scunizi: thanx got it
[17:24] <LukeNukem> How can i create a launcher
[17:24] <LukeNukem> in GNOME 3?
[17:24] <xichael> i'd like to ditch windows, and just have ubuntu (or lubuntu)
[17:24] <Stelpa> Scunizi: i see
[17:25] <Scunizi> aakash: there's a pretty big learning curve.. grab a beginning tutorial to help you get started.. it's a very capable program
[17:25] <roelforg> xichael, no cd/dvd drive?
[17:25] <coolroot> hi...i'm using ubuntu 10.04 lts i got Linux coolroot 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux i want to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.35 or something.....how can i do that?
[17:26] <roelforg> coolroot, apt-get my friend
[17:26] <aakash> thanx for info...
[17:26] <Scunizi> coolroot: the latest LTS release is about to be released with a much newer kernel.. sure you don't just want to upgrade?
[17:26] <xichael> no, it's a netbook... i just switched the boot order to no avail
[17:26] <kjs> Looking for linux users for my new community site, if anyone is interested hit up http://nixguru.com
[17:26] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut, which opens a right-click context menu.   Sometime this month we should be getting the official release of 12.04 LTS .. both are ubuntu. 12.04 being the newest
[17:28] <jdhfr> my unity box is absolutely empty. how to fix?
[17:28] <blah1> btw, i'm on 12.04 desktop x64 daily as of 2 days ago.   problem also was on 11.10
[17:28] <sacarlson> coolroot: you might find a later version of the kernel in the ppa repository if not in your present repository list in synaptic
[17:29] <roelforg> coolroot, sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:29] <roelforg> jdhfr, what do you mean with "empty"
[17:29] <home> hello my problem is... there are some libreries that are not abaliable in ubuntu 11.10
[17:30]  * Scunizi AFK
[17:30] <roelforg> home, soo... Just compile them yourself
[17:30] <jdhfr> there is nothing there
[17:30] <jdhfr> only icon with arrow in the bottom
[17:30] <sentriz> How to I edit the settigs for the side bar? :)
[17:30] <roelforg> jdhfr, empty hd?
[17:30] <Stelpa> Scunizi: that is how to disable F10, not shift-f10
[17:30] <jdhfr> empty what?
[17:31] <marscher> hi
[17:31] <bluebomber> Hi, I'm on 12.04 32bit, and when I login using the Ubuntu DE (instead of Ubuntu 2D), it works for a bit, but then when I start to scroll in Firefox, the window's contents flicker, then the entire desktop environment freezes. I can still move the mouse, though.
[17:31] <home> how, because i tried, but it shows me an error
[17:31] <roelforg> jdhfr, sorry timing issue... Can you describe the arrow? or post in the forums with a screenshot
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> bluebomber  ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:31] <marscher> does somebody know if you can parameterize qtiplot python scripts?
[17:31] <home> using the ubuntu software center
[17:31] <bluebomber> Thanks, MonkeyDust.
[17:31] <marscher> i could not figure it out
[17:31] <roelforg> home, generally you do ./configure followed by make and make install (you need build-essential(
[17:31] <jdhfr> it is home icon with an arrow above
[17:31] <sacarlson> bluebomber: stick with ubuntu 10.04 for another year if you want stable
[17:32] <StephaneScot> blahl: no idea how to fully fix it so it doesn't ever happen, but when it does just pull up a terminal control-alt-t and then remove and re-add the trackpad module (bcm5974).
[17:32] <home> i download them, and i made a sudo dpkg -i
[17:32] <roelforg> jdfhr, try clicking on the cog when logging in, and click on the unity entry
[17:33] <blah1> StephaneScot, awesome advice.  Thanks!
[17:33] <roelforg> home, tell me which lib
[17:33] <home> and many mistakes starts
[17:33] <StephaneScot> No problem.
[17:33] <mesenga> hi.. how to compact a file and upload him in a single command.. i saw this but don't remember how to do.. something using pipe..
[17:33] <home> ok hold on i will turn my lamp top on
[17:34] <blah1> StephaneScot, btw, dunno if you tried 12.04 yet but it fixes the BCM4331 wifi stability issues such as wireless N speed.
[17:34] <JPeterson> how do i change the tcp and udp timeouts? i.e. when my system drops idle udp connections and tcp connections in different states such as TIME_WAIT
[17:34] <blah1> my life so much better now on this mbp w/ 12.04
[17:34] <roelforg> home, "lamp top" can i use that as the hostname for my laptop?
[17:34] <guntbert> !12-04 | blah1
[17:34] <blah1> gundy, ?
[17:34] <guntbert> !12.04 | blah1
[17:35] <JPeterson> are they all in /proc/sys/net/ipv4?
[17:35] <magicJ> I have a system where even if I boot from the memory stick and moiunt it I can not write to the files.  If I boot in recovery mode and sign on as root I seem to be on but I can not write files.  How does this happen
[17:35] <home> sorry laptop...hahaha
[17:35] <blah1> ubottu, ok
[17:35] <blah1> guntbert, ok thx
[17:35] <dlentz> !botsnack
[17:35] <gundy> blah1, yes?
[17:36] <guntbert> gundy: he mis-tabbed - meaning me :)
[17:36] <roelforg> magicj, that correct
[17:36] <xichael> roelforg, i just tried on two other systems with the same result
[17:36] <roelforg> home, still:  can i?
[17:36] <home> ok
[17:36] <gundy> guntbert, heh.
[17:36] <roelforg> xichael, your usb is broken
[17:36] <roelforg> use the guide on the ubuntu wiki
[17:37] <bazhang> roelforg, which guide is that
[17:37] <home> gconf-service_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_i386.deb
[17:37] <xichael> i just used it lats night to install Win7 on another machine, so I know it's not broken
[17:37] <xichael> i did use the guide on the download page
[17:38] <home> other, gconf-service-backend_3.2.5
[17:38] <xichael> it's said to use the Universal USB Installer
[17:38] <xichael> I've reinstalled it to the drive now 3 times
[17:38] <home> other, libgconf-2.4_3.2.5
[17:39] <home> and there are others
[17:39] <Stelpa> I really would like to disable the shift-f10 shortcut in the terminal, which opens a right-click context menu. Can somebody please help me?
[17:39] <home> what do you think...?
[17:39] <magicJ> roelforg: what do you mean "that correct"
[17:39] <roelforg> xichael, i meant your install setup on the usb... Installation/InstallationFromUSNStick
[17:39] <home> i've already download them
[17:40] <roelforg> magicj, it's supposed to do so.
[17:40] <bazhang> roelforg, please be helpful when helping. just saying "thats correct, or look on the wiki is not helpful
[17:40] <bazhang> roelforg, if you dont know then please dont answer
[17:41] <xichael> i'll give that a shot
[17:41] <roelforg> xichael, wiki.ubuntu.com/community/installation/FromUSBStick
[17:41] <roelforg> woops, Installation (typo
[17:41] <sentriz> How to I edit the settigs for the side bar? :)
[17:41] <home> roelforg, did you see them?
[17:42] <ansi> can someone please help me with aptana studio.. i am new to it and i am new to ubuntu also .. please .. it will be a big favour
[17:42] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: helping doesnt mean to give you point to point directions, telling you to look into the wiki means your queries are answerwed in the wiki, all you need is some reading skills :)
[17:42] <roelforg> home, see what?
[17:42] <home> the libreries
[17:42] <xichael> roelforg, would this process work with lubuntu?
[17:42] <bazhang> MrHanjrah, thats not right. we have specific factoids for the wiki.
[17:42] <sentriz> can someone PLEASE help me
[17:42] <sentriz> im sure its easy
[17:43] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: i agree, but why would someone point you to the wiki if something you want is not there
[17:43] <ansi> i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:43] <bazhang> MrHanjrah, this is not the arch channel or the like. we *do* point to point support.
[17:43] <home> roelforg, did you ?
[17:44] <home> and so...
[17:44] <roelforg> home, yeah... apt-cache search libgconf showed them just fine on my systems
[17:44] <derek925> guys and someone please help me with an issue with the gnome 2.2 menu
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <bazhang> derek925, which version of ubuntu
[17:44] <MrHanjrah> bazhang: aha...!
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <ansi> some one pls help me wth aptana
[17:44] <FloodBot1> ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <bazhang> ansi, no need to repeat
[17:45] <derek925> I create a menu and put it in the wrong place so i removed it rebooted clecan cache etc etc and no mater where i put it it comes back in the same place where i didnt want it
[17:45] <ansi> bazhang pleas help me
[17:45] <bazhang> derek925, which version of ubuntu
[17:45] <derek925> maverick
[17:45] <derek925> gnome 2.2
[17:45] <home> and so...
[17:45] <magicJ> roelforg: if that's what it is supposed to do then how can I recover - surely if I am REALLY on as the root I should be able for example to change passwords - on other ubuntu systems I can
[17:46] <ansi> bazhang pleas help me
[17:46] <oCean> ansi: please stop
[17:46] <oCean> !helpme | ansi
[17:46] <sacarlson> ansi: here 1.4 million results http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=aptana&gbv=2&oq=aptana&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=hp.3..0l10.2741l2741l0l3887l1l1l0l0l0l0l165l165l0j1l1l0.frgbld.
[17:46] <oCean> sacarlson: not helpful :(
[17:47] <sacarlson> oCean: training how to use google is bad?
[17:47] <ansi> my apologies but i am trying to seek help past 3 days but no one has responded
[17:47] <bazhang> sacarlson, please dont do that
[17:47] <home> roelforg, what else.
[17:47] <bazhang> ansi, you need to ask an actual question, all on ONE line
[17:48] <ansi> i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:48] <bazhang> ansi, aptana studio?
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang yer
[17:48] <roelforg> home, they are in the repo (i wanted to prove that). Did you run sudo apt-get update
[17:48] <ansi> bazhang yes
[17:48] <bazhang> ansi, how does that relate to lamp?
[17:48] <home> of course
[17:49] <derek925> bazhang i see your busy if you can help when you get a chance on the menu item reaccouring
[17:49] <derek925> Id be very greatful
[17:49] <zenmaster> Hi, I was curious if someone could point me into the right direction on how to install and configure Vmware on Ubuntu Server 11.10?
[17:49] <bazhang> derek925, maverick is already end of life
[17:49] <auronandace> !vmware | zenmaster
[17:49] <Dragonforce> hi everibody
[17:49] <roelforg> home, apt-cache policy libgconf
[17:49] <ansi> bazhang i installed aptana.. then apache ..now as per aptana i am suppose to set the path of preview to apache folder.. but still i dont get a preview
[17:50] <home> when i used sudo aptitude
[17:50] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | derek925
[17:50] <derek925> look on you tube there millions of videos on vmware server etc
[17:50] <DasEi> zenmaster: I could help you a little in pm, but I went to vbox
[17:50] <Dragonforce> everybody*
[17:50] <zenmaster> Thank you auronandace.
[17:50] <zenmaster> I just need to throw a copy of windows on this machine I can VNC to so that I can use the power of this machine to do certain tasks. :)
[17:51] <Dragonforce> can someone help me ? every time i start my pc, ubuntu doesn't recognize all my hardware, i need to restart to fix that, so, there's a command line that i can use to force ubuntu to reset or search hardware again ?
[17:51] <zenmaster> I don't care really what helps me accomplish this goal as long as I can get it done. :)
[17:51] <zenmaster> DasEi: So does this sound framiliar to you?
[17:51] <bazhang> Dragonforce, which hardware
[17:51] <roelforg> home, ... I dunno your ubuntu version  but mine (11.10) goes back to 3.2.0
[17:51] <Dragonforce> bazhang, soundcard and wireless
[17:51] <derek925> so you cant help its not a security issue its driving me mad I want to know why it keeps coming back where can i delet the menu item Ive delete the file in /usr/share/aps etc etc
[17:51] <DasEi> zenmaster: no problem  , though wrong channel, feel free to pm
[17:52] <home> roelforg, no se pudo lov}calizar el paquete libgconf
[17:52] <Dragonforce> bazhang, but after restart, its ok
[17:52] <zenmaster> Sure thank you. :)
[17:52] <ansi> bazhang i installed aptana.. then apache ..now as per aptana i am suppose to set the path of preview to apache folder.. but still i dont get a preview
[17:52] <bazhang> Dragonforce, which card for wireless, ie chipset
[17:52] <home> sorry localizar
[17:52] <bazhang> ansi, yes, patience
[17:53] <dlentz> Dragonforce, have you tried the following command hwen that happens: sudo alsa force-reload
[17:53] <Dragonforce> bazhang, its an atheros, wireless card of notebook, chipset is intel but i dont know exactly
[17:53] <Dragonforce> no no dlentz , is this what im looking for, a command to re-search hardware
[17:53] <bazhang> Dragonforce, it would be either atheros or intel, not intel, unless you have two
[17:53] <dlentz> well, that one reloads sound driver/module
[17:53] <Dragonforce> dlentz, but alsa can be used for all hardware ?
[17:53] <bazhang> ansi, whats the guide you are following?
[17:54] <Dragonforce> bazhang,  sorry, wireles is atheros, but the notebook is a based intel chipset
[17:54] <home> i try to translate the message. it  couldn't search the paq libgconf
[17:54] <home> roelforg,
[17:54] <xichael> roelforg, just tried Linux Live Usb Creator and it had the same problem. i'll try Unetbootin now
[17:54] <Rienzilla> mmh
[17:54] <dlentz> Dragonforce, i would als try comparing dmesg output from a boot where everything works and one where hardware fails to work
[17:55] <zenmaster> Shoot I hope IRSSI did not just auto ignore daesi. :D
[17:55] <ansi> bazhang i have installed aptana  apache and phpmyadmin.. but i am not able to view preview even after setting aptana properties pointing to apache www folder
[17:55] <bazhang> zenmaster, its DasEi
[17:55] <bazhang> ansi, you are not answering my questions
[17:55] <ansi> bazhang http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-11.10-lamp-p2
[17:55] <bazhang> ansi, stop repeating that same line
[17:56] <Slype> Is it possible to compare Aptana to MonoDevelop?
[17:56] <roelforg> home, the livecd should enable you to use the linux tools on a different pc to create the usb
[17:56] <bazhang> Slype, more like dreamweaver
[17:56] <b2kru> I like cheese and tomato to be honest
[17:56] <ceti331> just been messing with 'synergy', what an awesome program
[17:57] <home> roelforg, so should i try to repair the o.p
[17:57] <bazhang> ansi, that link and aptana; whats the connection?
[17:57] <home> with the livecd
[17:57] <Slype> Thank you, bazhang
[17:57] <roelforg> home, no i mean another pc with a cddrive can boot the livecd and you can use it to create the usb
[17:58] <b2kru> the file is located on the server, its a Truecrypt locked file
[17:58] <home> how
[17:58] <b2kru> whoops
[17:58] <home> now im using a desk top pc
[17:58] <home> and the bug is in my laptop
[17:59] <home> how can i do that please
[17:59] <oCean> home what are you actually trying to accomplish? the libgconf package is called "libgconf2-4"
[17:59] <Dragonforce> dlentz, so, doen't exist a command that restart hardware detection in ubuntu ?
[17:59] <sacarlson> roelforg: we do have a linux tool that installs a ubuntu iso file to a usb flash without ever being on a cd
[18:00] <roelforg> sacarlson, home said that it didn't work.
[18:00] <bazhang> sacarlson, dd?
[18:00] <home> ocean, my problem is...
[18:00] <roelforg> bazhang, dd=gnu
[18:00] <bazhang> roelforg, what?
[18:00] <oCean> ?
[18:01] <roelforg> bazhang, dd is a linux tool
[18:01] <bazhang> roelforg, and?
[18:01] <sacarlson> roelforg: it doesn't work on all iso files to make them bottable but many usb-creator-gtk
[18:01] <Rienzilla> anyone here able to assist me on setting up a custom resolution with ubuntu and fglrx driver?
[18:01] <home> i run a sudo aptitude, it shows there are some broken packages
[18:01] <Rienzilla> my desired resolution is nog in the ati catalyst control panel
[18:02] <Rienzilla> not*
[18:02] <home> i could not fix it cause the are somo of them not abaliables
[18:02] <sandking> hi
[18:02] <anon> Does anybody know a file sharing tool for only 2 parties? One could use ssh servers on both sides but is there something more comfortable?
[18:02] <auronandace> home: sudo apt-get install -f
 it does not work
[18:02] <sandking> anyone knows what might be the reason that when installing an app i get missint python >=2.7 while i got 3.1 installed anyway?
[18:02] <sandking> i got both 2.6 and 3.1
[18:03] <skel> does anyone know why ironpython wasn't carried forward from natty?
[18:03] <sacarlson> anon: maybe ssh using nautilus then it's drag and drop like you might be used to
[18:03] <skel> or was it and I'm just missing it?
[18:03] <skel> !ironpython
[18:03] <xichael> ok, i've now tried Linux Live Usb Creator, Unetbootin, and Universal USB Installer. they all produce a boot drive with the same "missing operating system". i've tried them on three different systems. what more can I do?
[18:03] <skel> xichael: use dd
[18:04] <xichael> what's that?
[18:04] <anon> sacarlson, how I use nautilus with SSH?
[18:04] <skel> xichael: on your system, plugin the stick, from a terminal do sudo dd if=whatever.iso of=/dev/<usb device name here> bs=1M
[18:04] <xichael> i'm on a windows machine
[18:05] <skel> xichael: ah ok =/ do you have an osx machine near? you can use dd on that too
[18:05] <Escherial> so, i've pinned an application to the unity launcher, but it's icon is just "?"
[18:05] <xichael> no...
[18:05] <Pici> skel: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ironpython/+bug/549320 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dlr-languages/+publishinghistory
[18:05] <Escherial> how do i go about assigning it an icon? i have a png ready and er'thing
[18:05] <roelforg> xichael, livecd --- download, burn and boot using a desktop
[18:05] <skel> Pici: ty!
[18:05] <sacarlson> xichael: usb-creator works well on casper type iso files but not on all iso like ubuntu alternate iso,  maybe try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ for more details
[18:06] <PedroGomes> Hi, when installing a second Ubuntu in a free partition and forcing grub update to go to  (hd0,msdos1) (that I suppose is equal to sda1 my /boot partition) in the result all grub entries go to the new system. I can't figure this out...
[18:06] <skel> xichael: I'm not sure why those other tools aren't working for you, maybe try the fedora usb creator? I've used that to make ubuntu bootable usb devices
[18:06] <xichael> i'm trying to install to a netbook. it has no optical drive
[18:06] <Escherial> to provide some respite from the dunning-kruger effect, i'm trying to "install" pycharm (which apparently means dumping it in some directory and running pycharm.sh when you want to use it)...attempted to pin it to the launcher while it was running, and now i have the question-mark icon woes
[18:06] <roelforg> xichael, use a desktop to boot the livecd, have the livecd dd the iso to the usb, stick the usb in the netboot
[18:06] <xichael> sacarlson, i tried pendrivelinux's tool
[18:06] <roelforg> edit: i meant netbook
 home, no i mean another pc with a cddrive can boot the livecd and you can use it to create the usb. how can i do it, what is adress
[18:07] <bozonius> even running 2D, and throttling the cpu to 60%, ubuntu VM in vbox is crashing other guests
[18:07] <roelforg> home, the normal ubuntu-install-cd is a livecd
[18:07] <sacarlson> xichael: the method I normaly use if I still have a bootable linux disk is just create a grub2 menu to boot iso files in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[18:07] <home> i know it
[18:07] <bozonius> even running fluxbox, not even having unity running, crashes other VM's
[18:08] <Pici> sandking: Code for python3 is not compatible with code for python2.
[18:08] <home> but what do you mean, i can follow you
[18:08] <sandking> Pici, oh, i thought that when it asks for >=2.7 it means that 3.1 should be ok. thanks for the info
[18:08] <home> step by step
[18:09] <bozonius> I want to use Ubuntu One, but its damn operating system VM is causing the rest of my system to walk with a bad limp
[18:09] <roelforg> home, can you boot it on your own?
[18:09] <xichael> ok... do you guy have some links to instructions for these methods
[18:09] <ansi> bazhang http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html5/tutorials/aptana-studio-3-guided-tour-and-tutorial-create-a-web-project-using-the-html-5-boilerplate-framework.html#fbid=08uljAMcfes
[18:09] <home> of course
[18:09] <home> and then
[18:09] <xichael> i'm linux illiterate as of yet
[18:09] <roelforg> home, determine what /dev/sd* is your usb.
[18:09] <guntbert> !ubuntuone | bozonius
[18:09] <xichael> the dd, and the grub2 stuff that is
[18:09] <home> and
[18:10] <roelforg> home, i'll assume /dev/sdd for the ease
[18:10] <bozonius> Yes I know that.  That's why I want to use it.
[18:10] <roelforg> home, sudo dd if=/path/to.iso of=/dev/sdd
[18:10] <sacarlson> xichael: you might find better than this if you look http://icyrock.com/blog/tag/grub2/
[18:10] <roelforg> home, replace /dev/sdd with the right one
[18:10] <bozonius> From what I've seen, I like it.  Trouble is, Ubuntu is crashing my other guests and worse, slowing down my entire host
[18:10] <guntbert> bozonius: sorry, the important part is in the last line :)
[18:10] <skel> xichael: have you tried https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ ?
[18:10] <anon> log anon
[18:10] <bozonius> oh, ok
[18:11] <bozonius> thanks
[18:11] <sylos> hello all. This is my first time on IRC so not really sure how this works. Im trying to tack down an error and whether it is kernel based or something else. Am I in the right place?
[18:11] <xichael> skel, i'll give that a try first
[18:11] <guntbert> sylos: this is the ubuntu support channel - so if you are on ubuntu - yes
[18:11] <home> not man i cannot, there is an other way a easier way to do that?
[18:12] <roelforg> home, netbooks are just harder to install...
[18:12] <ansi> bazhang http://www.htmlgoodies.com/html5/tutorials/aptana-studio-3-guided-tour-and-tutorial-create-a-web-project-using-the-html-5-boilerplate-framework.html#fbid=08uljAMcfes
[18:13] <ansi> bazhang are u there?? can anyone please help  me.. its so frustrating to moveon to ubuntu..
[18:13] <sylos> guntbert: thanks here it is:   [ 7838.014939] ICE1712 0000:06:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) ->
[18:13] <sylos> IRQ 19
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014967] ice1712: Using board model M Audio Delta 66
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014971] invalid EEPROM (size = 145)
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014987] ICE1712 0000:06:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[18:13] <sylos> [ 7838.014996] ICE1712: probe of 0000:06:00.0 failed with error -5
[18:13] <FloodBot1> sylos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <home> so what shoul i do instead
[18:13] <bazhang> ansi, with xampp? that looks like a windows help page
[18:13] <roelforg> home, what i said: use the livecd dd the iso to the usb
[18:13] <oragsy> Hello! I'm not able to get micro SD adapter work on Ubuntu 11.10 running on Dell XPS 15. I tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops/Dell/XPS/15 but still not working.. Can anyone please heple me fid it
[18:13] <home> roelforg, do you have a skype account?
[18:14] <roelforg> home, nope
[18:14] <roelforg> home, i do have a ubuntuforums one
[18:14] <jbwiv> guys, I run a software raid mirror, with lvm on top of that, and with ext4 on top of that. since installing 11.10 (and now with 12.04) the "[jbd2/dm-1-8]" process constantly spins disks and eats i/o. Any idea how to stop this?
[18:14] <oragsy> Can anyone please help me fix it*
[18:14] <home> msn or something
[18:14] <sylos> ahh, sorry. The error comes when using an Maudio sound card BUT only when my PCIe graphics card is also installed. The maudio is old PCI
[18:14] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:14] <guntbert> sylos: I'm not good with kernel messages - I suggest you tell the channel a little about the problem and send a somewhat longer output to a !pastebin
[18:14] <roelforg> home, nope (i don't like those)
[18:14] <bazhang> roelforg, where is the iso on the livecd
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> jbwiv  #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support
[18:14] <home> facebook
[18:15] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:15] <jbwiv> MonkeyDust, yep, but it happens on my other box, which is 11.10
[18:15] <roelforg> bazhang, it ain't. You can either download it inside the livecd or just use /dev/sr0 (first cd-drive) as source
[18:15] <sylos> to avoid flooding I should do it all in one post, yes?
[18:15] <bazhang> ansi, is that using xampp?
[18:16] <bazhang> roelforg, does that not seem very complex to a first time user?
[18:16] <guntbert> sylos: use a !pastebin please, and for the statement - one line is perfect :)
[18:16] <guntbert> !pastebin | sylos
[18:16] <echa> hi, i would like to set up an ipv4 route for a connection in NetworkManager. I want to use my ethernet connection only for a certain route. I check the "ignore automatically obtained routes" and add a route for my host - however the gateway i need changes depending on when i connect to the network. Is there any way to place a dynamic net gateway parameter for this route?
[18:16] <roelforg> bazhang, it might... but on the irc, everything seems so as other messages are injected between the instructions
[18:17] <roelforg> bazhang, as a whole, it's not to hard
[18:17] <home> roelforg, hey please help me, give me a hand with this
[18:17] <oCean> home, listen. Your only, actual issue is that your aptitutde gives you an error?
[18:17] <bazhang> roelforg, I'd suggest it is quite too hard for said user, without very clear explanation
[18:18] <roelforg> home, i gave the instuctions for usb install ( i might be confusing conversations now... )
[18:18] <home> not it says that there are some broken packages
[18:18] <oCean> home, roelforg if that is your only issue, how come you are looking for a way to create livecd? To do what exactly?
[18:18] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:18] <oCean> home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How_to_fix_broken_packages
[18:18] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:18] <FloodBot1> ansi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <roelforg> bazhang, try stitching them together and look
[18:19] <roelforg> bazhang, my messages i mean (i type to fast
[18:19] <bazhang> roelforg, you are the one that suggested he do this?
[18:19] <roelforg> bazhang, i think i confused home and xichael...
[18:19] <bazhang> roelforg, all just to fix some broken packages?
[18:19] <xichael_> liveusb-creator has failed as well
[18:19] <home> yes you did hahah
[18:20] <oCean> roelforg: do you mind a pm?
[18:20] <roelforg> oCean, no i don't, as long as it is just a link to a new or updated thread
[18:21] <xichael_> is there some way i need to be formatting the drive? a few of the utilities offer to do it for me (to FAT32), but it didn't make any difference
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: try unetbootin
[18:21] <Chaosadnd1> Anyone have experience mounting a windows filesystem with webmin?
[18:21] <sylos> ok : here is the pastebin url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/932913/   (hope I did that right)
[18:21] <auronandace> !webmin | Chaosadnd1
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: webmin isn't supported or to be used
[18:21] <ansi> bazhang is there any better way u know to install this
[18:22] <bazhang> ansi, aptana studio?
[18:22] <Chaosadnd1> Hmm, why is it no longer supported?
[18:22] <ansi> bazhang yes
[18:22] <bazhang> ansi, wait a moment
[18:22] <skel> xichael_: yeah I usually just let the tool format the usb drive and haven't had any issues =/ is there a read / write switch on the drive?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: it doesn't gel with the config files and will break your OS
[18:22] <oCean> roelforg: pm, private message I mean. it must have opened a new tab in your irc client
[18:22] <rattatoue> I am using 10.04 LTS. I was wandering if someone could help me with getting my Netgear N150 working with it.
[18:22] <fixxxermet> Hi.  If I would like to voulnteer to maintain a package (such as the user-space scripts for the lxc package), who would I contact?
, i had tried with the synaptic, but it cannot
[18:23] <Chaosadnd1> Didnt know that. Have been running on my 11.10 server for qutie some time. Never noticed anything bad with it
[18:23] <oCean> !contribute | fixxxermet
[18:23] <Pici> fixxxermet: #ubuntu-motu would be a good place to drop by.
[18:23] <Chaosadnd1> quite*
[18:23] <fixxxermet> Thanks*2
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: can you give a pastebin of:   sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb       Thanks
[18:24] <xichael_> no read/write switch. i've been using this drive for months to install windows 7.
[18:24] <skiy1337> xichael_: What error message to you get during mkfs.*?
[18:24] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've tried Unetbootin,  Linux Live Usb Creator, and Universal USB Installer as well
[18:25] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/n8nZuh80
[18:25] <sacarlson> xichael_: I looked back about 2 hours in your chat records and can't find what version or what iso file you are working to install with usb flash
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: safe remove the device, jam it in a windows PC and format it FAT32
[18:25] <Chaosadnd1> So is there just no alternative to webmin now for Ubuntu/Debian?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: you have a class C IP? The wifi appears to be working.
[18:25] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal Chaosadnd1
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | Chaosadnd1
[18:26] <Chaosadnd1> Thank you
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Chaosadnd1: I suggest you just use SSH, it will teach you about your OS and your skills will be transferrable
[18:26] <rattatoue> ActionParsnip, I am currently on Wifi with a WG111 Netgear. Thats where the class C IP is from. I want to use the Netgear N150 not this WG111v3 one.
[18:26] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've formatted to FAT32 a number of times, to no avail
[18:27] <Chaosadnd1> I already use SSH, I also use webmin for ease of use.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: when you unplug from windows, do you safely remove the device?
[18:27] <Chaosadnd1> If it wasnt for webmin, i likely wouldnt be using Ubuntu at all. it helped me  learn alot.
[18:28] <skel> xichael_: you're using a standard thumbdrive right? Not a usb partition on a mobile phone or anything like that?
[18:28] <sacarlson> xichael_: might try lubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso  or ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso  they are stable and are casper type that many have used as bootable usb flash installs
[18:28] <xichael_> sacarlson, i was just here under xichael .. it disconnected me and logged me back in with this. I am attempting ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso and lubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso . neither has worked with any of the utilities i've tried.
[18:28] <DasEi> Chaosadnd1: webmin is quite insecure
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1663232    seems to use ndiswrapper
[18:28] <Chaosadnd1> Oh I understand that now, was just answering what was directed at me.
[18:28] <xichael_> skel, yes, standard thumb drive
[18:29] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i've been safely removing each time
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: good, that's important
[18:29] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'll try 10.04
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: if all alse fails, grab a magnet and put it on one side, then the other. Then format is and try again.
[18:29] <skel> xichael_: it could also be a corrupt iso =/ those are tough things to determine without already running linux
[18:30] <dav> hello, im trying to build a project and I get this error, I guess I am missing a library. here is the error output: http://pastebin.com/JH5UVDgk
[18:30] <xichael_> i've downloaded both via bittorrent
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rattatoue: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/167111
[18:30] <manitou> hi im new to ubuntu project , not totaly noob vith linux ! one Q:update from Beta2 to final LTS is it possible ?
[18:30] <sacarlson> xichael_: those i see you have should have worked too but missed why they failed maybe black screen?
[18:30] <skel> xichael_: did the md5sums match up?
[18:30] <bazhang> !final | manitou
[18:30] <root> hi all
[18:31] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'm getting "Missing Operating System" at boot up
[18:31] <manitou> ubottu: thx that is nice !
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> !rooirc | Guest21576
[18:31] <sacarlson> xichael_: sounds like bios picks the wrong sequence of device to boot first
[18:32] <xichael_> skel, i believe a couple of the utilities had checked that with no issues
[18:32] <skel> xichael_: dumb question but did you already modify the bios to be ahead of the in system disk for boot order?
[18:32] <xichael_> yes
[18:32] <skel> k
[18:32] <Guest21576> i need some help
[18:32] <Guest21576> is any one can help me
[18:33] <xichael_> both using the boot menu (F12 on the Dell) and editing the BIOS
[18:33] <sacarlson> xichael_: my notebook is like that every time I reboot I have to change the bios to get it to boot the usb,  eeepc for me
[18:33] <sauce_boss> eee pcs are terrible
[18:34] <xichael_> this one's pretty consistent. the BIOS settings are saved fine,
[18:34] <sacarlson> sauce_boss: I love it
[18:34] <sauce_boss> its good for travel
[18:34] <sauce_boss> i knew a guy who managed to put minecraft on it
[18:34] <xichael_> it just won't recognize the contents as bootable
[18:34] <bazhang> !ot | sauce_boss
[18:35] <sacarlson> xichael_:  if the usb software program did verification then it must be bios I think
[18:36] <sacarlson> xichael_: I have also got some counterfit usb's here in thailand that have caused me problems
[18:37] <xichael_> i have tried this on 2 other machines and had the same problem... the USB is fine, as I use it to install Windows 7 all the time
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: try the mini install. May help. Use a wired connection and you can install using the repos
[18:37] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, i'm on Windows 7
[18:37] <sacarlson> xichael_: try at least start install win 7 on your notebook to verify that the bios is set good
[18:38] <sauce_boss> probably its ur live usb creator program thats dodgy, i use unetbootin, works the best
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: so? You can put the mini ISO on the USB with Win7. What does the version of windows have to do with anything?
[18:40] <sacarlson> xichael_: I'm sure you did an md5sum of the iso you put on the usb flash drive to verify it's not corrupted
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: you could even be using a Mac and the process using unetbootin is the same.....
[18:40] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, ok, i thought you were referring to something i had to do from linux
[18:40] <scrub> Hey can someone help me, for some reason my Ubuntu software center wont let me press the download buttton, it is just greyed out
[18:40] <skiy1337> scrub, I can help you install from command line.
[18:40] <scrub> alrighty
[18:40] <skiy1337> So, which program do you want?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: no, not at all. Its just a small installation that installs from the web rather than using the CD as the source of packages
[18:41] <sacarlson> scrub  maybe it want you to be sudo?
[18:41] <pilotbub> xichael: boot up win 7 and vbox ubuntu until you get your fill
[18:41] <xichael_> sacarlson, how is this done?
[18:41] <scrub> I am sudo
[18:41] <xichael_> ActionParsnip, do you have a link for some instructions?
[18:41] <scrub> skiy1337, kismet-2011.03.2a.i386 is what I downloaded
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> !mini
[18:42] <scrub> which then opened in the software center
[18:42] <skiy1337> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: ^
[18:42] <sacarlson> xichael_: md5sum?  from windows 7?  http://www.winmd5.com/  or others
[18:42] <scrub> ugh, im such a windows baby.
[18:43] <sacarlson> scrub: we all were or still are babies
[18:43] <skiy1337> Well anyway, after that type: sudo apt-get -f install
 sudo dpkg -i *.deb   was that the command for me?
[18:43] <skiy1337> scrub, yes both of them
[18:43] <scrub> alright
[18:45] <skiy1337> Make sure that's the only .deb file in Downloads/
[18:45] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: funny I couldn't get ubuntu alternate cd to work as a usb or grub2,  but I guess they have mini.iso working?
[18:45] <xichael_> sacarlson, they matched
[18:45] <scrub> skiy1337, when typing in the first command I got there is no such directoy as *.deb
[18:45] <xichael_> how would the MinimalCD help me in this case?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: i believe it does :)
[18:45] <skiy1337> cd; cd Downloads/; sudo dpkg # etc.
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> xichael_: its a different ISO to try
[18:45] <sacarlson> xichael_: ok one posibility down,   so how to check if bios is set correct?
[18:46] <jola> ssta, are you there?
[18:46] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: xichael_: ya and only 24 meg to down load to try
[18:46] <ssta> nope
[18:47] <xichael_> well, i'm sure the BIOS is set up correctly. on all 3 machines I've tried this on, i've previouly installed Windows 7 via USB without issue
[18:47] <jola> ssta, if windows recovery cd doesn't work, can I undo its changes by dd'ing the file back to the partition?
[18:48] <xichael_> sacarlson, i'll give it a try
[18:48] <jola> or should I try to repair it with testdisk first?
[18:49] <jola> apparently the disk doesn't have bad sectors, I used dd_rescue and it showed 0 errors
[18:49] <ssta> jola: try repairing first, but you can undo the changes...this is why you took the copy in the first place
[18:49] <sacarlson> xichael_: I hope you pick the verify option on your usb or maybe do the full diagnostics on the device,  they don't all work
[18:50] <jbwiv> guys, I suspect (based on reading bug reports) that pm-utils is causing some unwanted disk writes. I proceeded to uninstall it with apt, but apt wants to uninstall gnome-session as well? Anyone know why/how to get around?
[18:50] <jola> ssta, I wasn't sure I could just copy it back. if not, I'd have to find a tool that can recover individual files from the partition image, but I'd have to reinstall everything, which is what I want to avoid
[18:51] <ssta> jola: yeah, good luck with it.
[18:51] <ssta> jola: and learn the lesson...backups! :)
[18:51] <jola> ssta, so should I do "chkdsk c: /f" or choose "repair an existing windows installation" from the menu?
[18:51] <jola> or both? in which order?
[18:51] <ssta> jola: I'd try the repair first, but that's just me
[18:51] <xichael_> sacarlson, i just used this USB thumbdrive last night to install windows on another machine, but i'll look into running a diagnostic. i think sandisk has a utility...
[18:52] <jola> ok
[18:52] <DemonID> Hi All..
[18:52] <DemonID> Witaam !
[18:52] <jola> ssta, if that fails, do you know of a free tool that repairs NTFS signatures?
[18:52] <zeusdark> ciao
[18:53] <zeusdark> !list
[18:53] <zeusdark> !list
[18:53] <zeusdark> o
[18:53] <Lil> lmao
[18:54] <ssta> jola: offhand, no
[18:54] <xichael_> the miniCD just gave me the same "missing operating system" as the others. maybe i'll try another distro to rule out ubuntu as the problem
[18:54] <jola> ok, I'll try the windows recovery cd now
[18:54] <xichael_> what should I try, Debian?
[18:55] <xichael_> Fedora. I'll try that.
[18:56] <shade34321> a user is trying to ssh to another computer but is receiving a host key verification failed error...we've deleted his known_hosts files already but still getting it...any ideas?
[18:57] <jola> ssta, if it doesn't work, should I do fixboot or fixmbr?
[18:57] <ssta> jola: you have a backup, do whichever seems appropriate
[18:57] <jola> I don't know what seems appropriate
[18:58] <jola> recopying the backup for each try would take days
[18:58] <jola> the backup took a day to copy
[18:58] <susanne> hi. can someone plz. help me... I cant watch any videos on firefox. Tried to download java but it doesnt seem to work...
[18:59] <xichael_> i better go catch some sunshine. i'll get back to this later. thanks for everyone's help!
[18:59] <auronandace> susanne: what uses java to play vids?
[18:59] <skel> susanne: chances are you don't need java for streaming video
[18:59] <Fyodorovna> susanne, did you install the restricted extras?
[18:59] <ssta> jola: welcome to disk recovery
[18:59] <skel> susanne: do you have the adobe flash plugin installed?
[19:00] <susanne> i checked the plugins flash plugin is installed
[19:00] <ssta> jola: there's a reason a decent specialist will charke like $1000 to even look at something
[19:00] <yeats> susanne: do you get an error when a video doesn't play?
[19:00] <jola> ssta, yes, but just because someone charges $1000 that doesn't make him a specialist
[19:01] <susanne> it only sais check plugins
[19:01] <jola> maybe he just looks at it, even though he is a specialist
[19:01] <yeats> susanne: how did you install flash?
[19:01] <susanne> Ubuntu software center
[19:01] <yeats> ok
[19:01] <ssta> jola: sure.  No data recovery specialist will promise to get your data back.  It's hit and miss.  It's a LOT easier to restore from backup than recover data on a fried filesystem
[19:02] <yeats> susanne: try typing 'about:plugins' into Firefox's address bar... does flash show up there?
[19:02] <skel> jola: if you need to recover files off a lost filesystem, photorec works pretty well (sorry I missed the first part of the discussion)
[19:02] <susanne> i try
[19:02] <Fyodorovna> susanne, generally all you have to install is the ubuntu-restricted-extras  it has plugins ms font and flash all in one.
[19:03] <susanne> x shockwave flash
[19:03] <yeats> susanne: have you restarted FF since installing flash?
[19:03] <susanne> yep
[19:03] <yeats> susanne: okay - I'm tapped out then ;-)
[19:03] <jola> skel, I want to avoid having to reinstall everything. do you know how I can repair the NTFS signature?
[19:04] <susanne> will i find the restricted-extres in the software center
[19:04] <Fyodorovna> susanne, yes, please use nics in the chanel as wel.
[19:04] <Fyodorovna> well*
[19:05] <susanne> ok fyodorovna
[19:05] <Fyodorovna> susanne, cool ;)
[19:05] <skel> jola: sorry I missed the first part of the discussion (small scrollback buffer) what happened?
[19:08] <teligard> Hi all
[19:08] <jola> skel, after a BSOD some days ago (DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, NDIS.sys) I couldn't boot windows anymore, nor mount the partition under linux. mount said the NTFS signature was missing. I copied the partition as an image to my external drive
[19:08] <jola> and now want to repair the NTFS signature
[19:09] <teligard> Anyone have any ideas why when I boot, I have all of my shares (fstab appears to work), but if I perform a umount -a -t cifs and then a mount -a, the system returns an error saying that the fstab is incorrect?
[19:10] <ssta> jola: did the XP recovery tool fail?
[19:11] <skel> jola: yeah if you boot off your windows install cd there should be an active parition recovery option
[19:12] <Fyodorovna> jola, have you tried the ##windows channel, for fixing a broken partition table.
[19:13] <jola> Fyodorovna, no, I only had the info that the NTFS signature was missing
[19:13] <jola> I don't know what else was overwritten by that driver
[19:13] <DasEi> teligard: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[19:14] <Fyodorovna> jola, not really sure here but when I look that up it appears top be a broken partition table, may not really be fixable efficiently really.
[19:14] <skel> jola: if you've cloned the disk image already and have it backed up, you could try: http://www.howtoforge.com/ntfs-disk-recovery