[04:37] <Velcan> If I could get my WoW fix on I could put my windoze where it belongs ... where's the bathroom?
[04:38] <hosler> if I get cedega, should I uninstall wine, winetools, and winex3?
[04:38] <thr1ce> wtf!  I can't find win32codecs
[04:38] <Velcan> everything should be built into cedega if i remmber right
[04:38] <hosler> i mean will cedega be better than those and I wont need them anymore?
[04:38] <thr1ce> and have updated my repositories properly
[04:38] <Aerebus> i'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error:
[04:38] <Aerebus> checking for gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0... Package gtkmm-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkmm-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtkmm-2.0' found configure: error: Library requirements (gtkmm-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglademm-2.0 >= 2.1.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a no
[04:38] <Aerebus> nstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[04:39] <Aerebus> can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong plz?
[04:39] <Velcan> pretty sure cedega is supposed to be all in one
[04:40] <Velcan> Looks like I might jsut have to break down and buy a different wifi card and give my dog a new chew toy. :(
[04:40] <adwait> Aerebus: well do u hv the package/file anywhere?
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: it's in hoary extras
[04:41] <thenostradamus> does anyone here use shorewall?
[04:41] <thr1ce> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:41] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard backports is at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:41] <thr1ce> that's not findint it
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: it's called w32codecs
[04:42] <Aerebus> adwait, do u mean gtkmm?
[04:42] <IceDC571> is anyone here using kde? lol
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: I've got it installed, yeah
[04:42] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit, how do you like it?
[04:42] <LinuxJones> IceDC571, you can join #kubuntu
[04:42] <tiglionabbit> uh, it's pretty, but I think gnome is more suited to ubuntu's features
[04:43] <IceDC571> i'm thinking about trying fluxbox
[04:43] <root_> alguien que hable espaol?
[04:43] <Aerebus> adwait, i do a locate gtkmm and nothing shows up
[04:43] <adwait> Aerebus: yes
[04:43] <seth_k> root_: #ubuntu-es
[04:43] <Velcan> if you gonna try flux you chould check out damnsmalllinux
[04:43] <Velcan> it's pretty cool
[04:43] <root_> ok muchas gracias
[04:44] <adwait> Aerebus: Aerebus thn maybe u dont hv tht file.......i tired apt-get can't get it there so i guess u gotta search fora deb
[04:44] <adwait> Aerebus: i guess this is it: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all&keywords=gtkmm&sourceid=mozilla-search
[04:45] <Aerebus> i looked in synaptic and it says i have libgtkmm-2.4-1 and libgtkmm-2.4-dev installed...
[04:46] <biscuit> Anyone know anything about PPP here>
[04:46] <IceDC571> well i dont know, dont i have to configure everything just to make fluxbox a decent desktop?
[04:46] <biscuit> Ice...Long time no see
[04:46] <Discipulus> biscuit, I do, what's the problem?
[04:46] <IceDC571> biscuit, MrBiscuit?
[04:46] <Jhair> does ubuntu bugzilla work at the moment? Registration doesn't seem to work (mail with password was sent to me but I get " The username or password you entered is not valid.")
[04:47] <biscuit> Discipulus, Well i want to use KDE, but for some reason i can only connect to the internet throughthe Modem Lights thingey on GNOME
[04:47] <adwait> Aerebus: hmm..........no idea buddy.....
[04:47] <biscuit> Yes its me
[04:47] <Jhair> Requesting a new password doesn't work neither: the promised mail with the new password is not sent.
[04:47] <IceDC571> biscuit, which window managers do you have installed?
[04:47] <biscuit> *Forced to use non free driver X-(
[04:47] <biscuit> WIndow managers?
[04:47] <biscuit> *noob
[04:48] <IceDC571> biscuit, lol... i didnt know you were that much of a newb
[04:48] <biscuit> Like Gnome? Or what
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, don't use the GUI, I've had considerable problems with it
[04:48] <IceDC571> biscuit, i think i asked you the same question yesterday
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, pppconfig to set it up
[04:48] <biscuit> I know
[04:48] <biscuit> I did
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, pon <provider> to turn it on
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, and poff to turn it off
[04:48] <biscuit> Ok..
[04:48] <Discipulus> biscuit, all command-line programs
[04:48] <oga> is anybody interested in seeing if they can help me with an interesting networking problem... not specifcally related to ubuntu?
[04:49] <Discipulus> Anything else before I go off to bed?
[04:49] <biscuit> Linuxant making you pay for their drivers RUBBISH!
[04:49] <biscuit> Not really
[04:49] <oga> fair enough
[04:49] <Discipulus> biscuit, that answer your question?
[04:49] <biscuit> Ya
[04:49] <IceDC571> anything that charges you isnt good
[04:49] <biscuit> Ill try that
[04:49] <biscuit> I know
[04:49] <biscuit> I found a beta
[04:49] <biscuit> But it won't setup rite
[04:49] <biscuit> You think you can help Ice?
[04:49] <Discipulus> alright, good night all
[04:49] <IceDC571> biscuit, whats the problem?
[04:50] <biscuit> Hold on lemme get the error again
[04:50] <biscuit> Lol
[04:50] <LinuxJones> ogra, depends on what you need us to do
[04:50] <oga> heres the deal: i scored a "non-working sample" belkin router model "f5d7230" which is supposedly the wireless router from belkin
[04:50] <oga> it works as a router with the ethernet ports
[04:51] <oga> but the firmware (or possibly harware as well) does not make any mention of WLAN
[04:51] <oga> i want to know if there is any way i can tell if this is actually a wirless routher
[04:51] <oga> or just a normal one wacked in the wrong case
[04:52] <LinuxJones> ogra, is there an antenna on it :)
[04:52] <oga> yep
[04:52] <Velcan> Trying to get my D-Link DWL-G630 WiFi card to work after a fresh install. What's weird is that the device actually shows up in the device manager and even goes aways and comes back if I am to reseat the device. But no matter what I seem to do I get no lights indicating that the card has any power, and the device does not show up in my network-admin tool. -- Has anyone seen this or something like this before and able to help me?
[04:52] <biscuit> Umm thats alot of stuff
[04:52] <oga> it's just wierd
[04:52] <oga> no mention of WLAN at config screen
[04:52] <oga> but there is an antenna
[04:52] <oga> & model matches wirless as per the outside of the case
[04:53] <oga> but
[04:53] <biscuit> Brb Ice
[04:53] <oga> it says "non-working sample"
[04:53] <oga> and if nothing works it would make sense
[04:53] <oga> but i'm using it now to chat 2 you guys
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> lol
[04:55] <oga> i'm gonna try throwing on some german firmware.... who knows?
[04:55] <cafuego> Velcan: More likely than not you need ndiswrapper with windows drivers (or perhaps acx_100 with windows binary firmware) before that card will do anything.
[04:56] <biscuit> Hmm
[04:56] <Velcan> thats just were in do ndiswrapper -i pathto(inf)file right?
[04:56] <biscuit> Now the pon and poff thing works... tricky tricky
[04:56] <LinuxJones> ogra, have you been here Linux is a supported operating system >> http://search.belkin.com/cgi-bin/MsmFind.exe?QUERY_ENCODING=UTF-8&CFGNAME=MssFindEN.cfg&AND_ON=N&MCAT%5B2%5D=X&AGE_WGT=0&EN=X&NO_DL=X&QUERY=F5D7230-4*&LL=EN
[04:56] <Velcan> I'll try that
[04:56] <oga> thanx jones
[04:56] <cafuego> That first, then ndiswrapper -m, then 'updat-modules' , then 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[04:56] <Velcan> I just figured since it was showing the the dev man that the drivers where installed
[04:56] <Velcan> ahh
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> pon, poff? no porn?
[04:57] <Velcan> okay
[04:57] <cafuego> Velcan: keep in mind it will supportonly a subset of the 'iwconfig' options.
[04:57] <pax> Hi everyone, I just installed and found either a bug or a very serious issue with Ubuntu
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[04:57] <Velcan> kk. ima go try that quick
[04:57] <cafuego> pax: Did you file a bug?
[04:57] <TokenBad> finally someone fixed my cedega problem!!!
[04:57] <TokenBad> now can install gams
[04:57] <pax> type: last -d   and check if you see some IP from russia showing every time you boot your Ubuntu
[04:57] <TokenBad> games eve
[04:57] <TokenBad> finally
[04:58] <pax> cafuego: not yet, this is freaking me out
[04:58] <cafuego> pax: <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:58] <pax> every time you boot/login, this IP <IP_ADDRESS> shows up via last -d  another user confirmed it
[04:58] <pax> cafuego: yes.
[04:59] <cafuego> pax: Seems to only happen on X logins; probably just a random pointer getting logged to utmp.
[04:59] <pax> all users of Ubuntu/Kubuntu are owned until this gets cleared!
[04:59] <pax> cafuego: you have the same thing right?
[04:59] <cafuego> pax: No, russians aren't accessing your machine.
[05:00] <adwait> hehe
[05:00] <cafuego> pax: Login at the console, see how it logs <IP_ADDRESS> then?
[05:00] <pax> pax@debuntu:~$ last -d
[05:00] <pax> pax      :0           <IP_ADDRESS>      Sat Jul  9 22:03   still logged in
[05:00] <pax> pax      :0           <IP_ADDRESS>          Sat Jul  9 22:03 - 22:03  (00:00)
[05:00] <pax> reboot   system boot  <IP_ADDRESS>          Sat Jul  9 21:57          (00:40)
[05:00] <delltony> hi is there any chance i could get someone with advanced knowledge to help me get mplayer to have libmp3lame enabled? I have installed libmp3lame i have the .so file in the /usr/lib dir so i'm guessing its installed. I then took and downloaded the mplayer source and tried to compile it but after compilation i stll get mplayer is not compiled with libmp3lame support. help would be appreciated. thankks
[05:01] <harris|u> Can someone help with firestarter? It says 'failed to start the firewall' because the device eth0 is not ready although it's obviously ready since I'm connected to the internet.
[05:01] <digitalfox> hrm. anyone know how to set the default terminal dimensions in gnome-terminal?
[05:01] <Velcan> o_O ndiswrapper isnt installed in ubuntu by default?
[05:01] <cafuego> pax: It's a bug in gdm I expect.
[05:01] <cafuego> Breezy logs lots of different other IPs.
[05:01] <pax> cafuego: you didnt answer me, do you have the same issue?
[05:02] <pax> cafuego: I installed and reinstalled twice to confim this
[05:02] <cafuego> pax: Mine is also logging a random uninitialised pointer to wtmp, yes.
[05:02] <cafuego> pax: it's a bug, not a security hole.
[05:02] <GigaClon> hey quick problem here
[05:02] <pax> cafuego: I will file bugzilla, you do the same please.
[05:02] <sean_> anybody know why my comp just shuts down randomly
[05:03] <sean_> with ubuntu
[05:03] <cafuego> Velcan: Why would Ubuntu install windows drivers by default?
[05:03] <sean_> this never happend
[05:03] <nickrud> cafuego do you, offhand, know the bug report?
[05:03] <adwait> sean_ it doesnt like u/ubuntu
[05:03] <sean_> now i cant leave my comp alone, it always turns off
[05:03] <IceDC571> biscuit, im back
[05:03] <cafuego> nickrud: no idea.
[05:03] <adwait> sean_: system overheating?
[05:03] <sean_> thats what i thought
[05:03] <cafuego> sean_: Did you check the log files after booting back up?
[05:03] <sean_> oh well
[05:03] <nickrud> so I don't; then I guess it'll be something interesting to look up :)
[05:03] <rendi> anyone know what's the best player for mp3 ?
[05:04] <sean_> i thought it might have been something common, no i havent
[05:04] <adwait> rendi: rhythmbox, xmms, beep-media-player
[05:04] <adwait> take ur pck
[05:04] <adwait> *pick
[05:04] <cafuego> nickrud: I believe this bug was filed in debian over 6 months ago.
[05:04] <D1> depends on what you're looking for: muine, bmp, rhythmbox
[05:04] <nickrud> cafuego I'm not doubting you, just looking for a shortcut
[05:04] <rendi> i mean the ui like winamp
[05:04] <D1> try beep-media-player
[05:05] <cafuego> I'll check the gdm sources
[05:05] <siimo> hi when i try changing themes in gnome settings, no matter what theme i click on it doesnt change anything
[05:05] <siimo> nothing happens
[05:05] <siimo> can someone help?
[05:05] <nickrud> dpm
[05:06] <nickrud> huh, bad finger placement ;)
[05:06] <snareplr> hello all.... Is an mplayer .deb available for Ubuntu ??
[05:06] <adwait> snareplr: apt-get install mplayer
[05:06] <D1> should be.
[05:06] <Trace> Hello, althouth i ask this question 3 times here, i really want to fix it, ask again.
[05:06] <adwait> or do u specifically wnat a deb?
[05:06] <snareplr> adwait; no dice...
[05:06] <GigaClon> i was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message
[05:07] <Trace> my sound card is sis7012 integreated, driver is snd_intel8x0
[05:07] <GigaClon> any help
[05:08] <Trace> it seems be driven sucessfully, TeamSpeak telles me it is be driven. but i can't here anysound
[05:08] <Trace> i tried alsamixer to check.
[05:08] <IceDC571> wow.. is there any guide i can follow to configure fluxbox?
[05:09] <cafuego> Yeah, bug is in 'sessreg'
[05:09] <Trace> Pcm channel and master channel is just 0, i can't change the value of it? why?
[05:09] <Velcan> should i have to reboot after that?
[05:09] <cafuego> Shit
[05:11] <ed1t> damn i just found out that i get waaay more download speed on wireless on ubuntu then xp
[05:11] <davidandkaz> HI guys
[05:11] <ed1t> 600 kbps on wireless
[05:11] <ed1t> i would get like 300 in xp
[05:11] <davidandkaz> Hey how do i access my other harddrives?
[05:11] <davidandkaz> like my mp3's
[05:12] <concept10> Anyone have knowledge of the GNOME networkmanager?
[05:12] <nalioth> davidandkaz: please be more specific
[05:12] <D1> Trace, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27583&highlight=sis7012
[05:12] <D1> try looking at that
[05:12] <Aerebus> i'm trying to ./configure --enable-gtk a program i'm trying to install and i'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/465 can someone help me fix this? i'm guessing it's saying i need gtkmm but when i do "locate gtkmm" nothings comes up, however in ubuntu under the synaptic package manager it says its installed >.<
[05:12] <D1> might be something of interest since its about your card.
[05:12] <nalioth> Aerebus: you need gtkmm blah -dev libs
[05:13] <nalioth> Aerebus: the -dev is what it's looking for
[05:13] <davidandkaz> Well I partitioned this hard drive into two operating systems, I can only read my cd rom and dvd player
[05:13] <biscuit> davidandkaz: What format are you other hds formated in
[05:13] <davidandkaz> oh, umm
[05:13] <davidandkaz> not sure
[05:13] <Velcan> I did all that, rebooted and still no light or dev showing in network-admin :(
[05:13] <rendi> i finished instaled beep media player but i can't play song with that, but i can play song with music player any help me ?
[05:13] <biscuit> FAT32, NTFS, etc etc
[05:13] <davidandkaz> don't know
[05:14] <nalioth> davidandkaz: do you run windows on the same box?
[05:14] <davidandkaz> yes
[05:14] <ed1t> nalioth, do you know if i can backup the linux paritition with ghost?
[05:14] <davidandkaz> :D
[05:14] <nalioths_dog> davidandkaz: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partitions mount automatically
[05:14] <rendi> any one help me pls
[05:14] <biscuit> Well if it's NTFS (probally if you have Win XPand a huge HD) then well your outta luck
[05:14] <nalioths_dog> rendi: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[05:15] <rendi> ok
[05:15] <Velcan> you can read ntfs fine (at least i have been able to) but writting to ntfs can be hectic
[05:15] <rendi> but it format mp3 ?
[05:15] <HrdwrBoB> er
[05:15] <davidandkaz> How do I run that?
[05:15] <HrdwrBoB> yes you can read NTFS not a problem
[05:15] <biscuit> THE DOG!
[05:16] <Aerebus> nalioth, would this be it?
[05:16] <nalioth> davidandkaz: when you get it d/l, open a terminal where the file is located and type "sudo -s", and then "sh winmac_fstab"
[05:16] <Aerebus> http://packages.debian.org/stable/libdevel/libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[05:16] <nalioth> davidandkaz: then close the termial
[05:16] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes
[05:17] <IceDC571> anyone here running fluxbox?
[05:17] <biscuit> nalioths_dog: Can you still access a Windoes NTFS part on linux
[05:17] <Aerebus> nalioth, how do i install a .deb file?
[05:17] <nalioth> biscuit: yes, read-only
[05:18] <nalioth> Aerebus: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[05:18] <nalioth> Aerebus: you should be able to install that using synaptic, tho
[05:19] <tenshu> i just installed ubuntu, my resolutions are stuck at 1024x768, how can i fix this?
[05:19] <biscuit> Oh... with that fstab thingey?
[05:19] <pax> nalioth last -d in a termial and tell me if you can a see an IP you dont recognised at every boot/login
[05:20] <nalioth> pax: im sorry, i don't understand
[05:20] <Velcan> cafuego: I did ndiswrapper -i /media/usbdisk/net5211.inf; ndiswrapper -m; update-modules; modprobe ndiswrapper -- Is there anything else I need to do after that?
[05:20] <pax> nalioth type this in a terminal: last -d
[05:20] <cafuego> nalioth: There's a bug in gdm or 'sessreg' which logs a random pointer, which is translated to an IP by 'last'.
[05:20] <nalioth> ubotu tell tenshu about resolutions
[05:20] <pax> nalioth do you see an IP that is not yours there?
[05:21] <Velcan> I have also rebooted but still no light or dev showing in network-admin
[05:21] <tenshu> nalioth, what?
[05:21] <nalioth> i see no strangers in my last -d
[05:21] <nalioth> ubotu tell tenshu about resolution
[05:21] <SDFH_Linux> trying out hoary live cd my wireless network card is suppose to work but it doesnt why?
[05:22] <Strife[lab] > has anyone tried using gnomad2?
[05:22] <tenshu> thanks
[05:22] <cafuego> global vars left, right and center
[05:23] <SDFH_Linux> and my wireless card is supported
[05:23] <GigaClon> i was trying to run a program that depends on liblua, and got "can't find liblua.so". even when I install the liblua package thru synaptic it still gives the same message
[05:23] <SDFH_Linux> why it doesnt work
[05:23] <concept10> Anyone have any knowledge of this ?  http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/index.html
[05:23] <nalioth> GigaClon: you need liblua-dev or something like that
[05:23] <Strife> actually, better yet... how do you edit your library search path (so when you run a program, it knows where to find a lib)?
[05:23] <nickrud> damn, can someone point me at something about the syntax that ubotu understands?
[05:23] <FlannelKing> pax, I too have <IP_ADDRESS>, as still logged in, I'm not worried about it
[05:24] <GigaClon> I installed that too still didn't work
[05:24] <nalioth> nickrud: ask ubotu !help
[05:24] <SDFH_Linux> anyone?
[05:25] <Aerebus> nalioth, i installed both libgtkmm-2.4-1_2.4.10-1_i386.deb and libgtkmm-2.4-dev_2.4.10-1_i386.deb manually thru the terminal and it is still giving me the same error
[05:25] <nickrud> thanks, nalioth
[05:26] <Scroopy> how do i kill a non repsonsive program?
[05:26] <nalioth> Aerebus: search using synaptic for 'gtkmm'
[05:26] <HrdwrBoB> click the X
[05:27] <Scroopy> no that dint work lol
[05:27] <[koji] > !help
[05:27] <HrdwrBoB> it'll come up with a force quit option
[05:27] <nalioth> Scroopy: applicaions > run app > xkill
[05:27] <nickrud> Scroopy that's a loaded question, it depends on how it's called
[05:27] <Strife> does anyone know why libnjb0 doesn't actually work?
[05:27] <Scroopy> well my AMSN has locked up
[05:28] <Scroopy> ther eis no XKILL under run aopplication
[05:28] <GigaClon> nalioth: I still get this error,./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: liblua.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <nalioth> Scroopy: you have to type it in
[05:28] <nalioth> GigaClon: i'm not sure
[05:28] <PPC_Guy> anyone have BitchX installed with Warty?
[05:28] <Scroopy> aaa thanks haps
[05:28] <Scroopy> heaps
[05:28] <Scroopy> all fixed no0w
[05:28] <Scroopy> ;) cheers
[05:29] <IceDC571> wheres the list of window managers on that ubuntu site?
[05:29] <Aerebus> nalioth, ok i got it up only 2 things are installed the 2 i just mentioned
[05:29] <GigaClon> compiling lua from source didn't help either
[05:29] <ed1t> nalioth,  i just installed this package cl-md5 from synaptic, but i dunno how to open it now
[05:29] <nalioth> Aerebus: then i'm stumped
[05:29] <nalioth> ed1t: why did you install it? what's it for?
[05:29] <pax> FlannelKing: thank you for comfirming this bug in Ubuntu. I hope the devs will address this issue promptly.
[05:29] <nalioth> IceDC571: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <ed1t> for checking md5 sums
[05:29] <ed1t> checksum*
[05:30] <FlannelKing> ed1t, check the 'installed files' on the package
[05:30] <nalioth> ed1t: then at a terminal type "md5sum <whatever you want to md5 fingerprint>"
[05:30] <mgalvin> is anyone else in new york getting TERRIBLE network connection speeds to ubuntus server in the uk?
[05:30] <IceDC571> nalioth, um okk..
[05:31] <ed1t> ooo thx
[05:33] <HaroldJohnson> naliothHey there, nalioth.
[05:33] <Aerebus> nalioth i dont suppose u could compile it for me? lol
[05:34] <nalioth> Aerebus: if i did, you wouldnt be able to use it. i run PPC
[05:34] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: howzit goin?
[05:34] <Aerebus> o
[05:34] <Aerebus> well
[05:34] <Aerebus> bummer
[05:34] <HaroldJohnson> I've just installed madwifi and I'm ready to use my wireless card.
[05:35] <HaroldJohnson> What do I need to do to test my wifi connection?
[05:35] <HaroldJohnson> naliothIt's going fine; yourself?
[05:36] <nalioth> Aerebus: you can compile it for yourself
[05:37] <HaroldJohnson> naliothGet some rest, nalioth.
[05:37] <Strife> hey, so for some reason, it seems that java on ubuntu (and debian in particular) seems to like to not use Swing, but instead some crappy attempt at a gtk look and feel (at least on GNOME)... any idea how I can undo that?
[05:38] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: How do I test a wireless card?  Plug it in and ping?  iwconfig?  iwlist scan/  dmesg?
[05:38] <GigaClon> can synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?
[05:39] <seth_k> !sources
[05:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:39] <Aerebus> nalioth what else could be the problem?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> !Wow
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: Are you smoking crack?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, Hey, that's not nice?
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, What?
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:39] <nalioth> Aerebus: i have no clue what you are trying to do
[05:39] <seth_k> don't mess with the bot :P
[05:39] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, Hey now@
[05:39] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> ubotu, What the?
[05:40] <ubotu> HaroldJohnson: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:40] <daniels> guys, please leave the bot alone.
[05:40] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you are speaking to a Robot
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> naliothI know, I'm just kidding.
[05:40] <Aerebus> nalioth i'm trying to compile source for visualboy advance
[05:40] <HaroldJohnson> naliothThat's my first time playing with it.
[05:40] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: don't tease the bot, he doesnt like it
[05:40] <Mets> hey guys, I'm having some install issues with 5.04.  I've burnt several copies of the image, tried different burning programs, downloaded different images from another mirror, tried different computers, etc., but I can't seem to get anything to read either the InstallCD or the LiveCD for Ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[05:41] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: too many other folks have abused poor ol' ubotu
[05:41] <LinuxJones> !help
[05:41] <nalioth> Mets: you hardware alright?
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> naliothYou probably get tired of seeing that.
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> !wireless
[05:41] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:41] <Mets> I think, I tried it on a new Dell, and old Acer, and a middle-aged Compaq, and nothing on any of them
[05:41] <HaroldJohnson> naliothBot is useful.
[05:42] <Mets> I've burnt and installed a ton of linux distros before, and I never had a problem
[05:42] <GigaClon> can synaptic handle .deb packages from the internet?
[05:42] <paul_> giga yes
[05:42] <juanpa> hi, im having troubles with cd burning, i already have k3b installed but it says that i dont have cdrao, and sinaptyc doesnt find it, any help??
[05:42] <nickrud> GigaClon now without some wore on your part
[05:43] <Jimbob> paul_: It can't install them, can it?
[05:43] <nickrud> s/wore/work :)
[05:43] <paul_> thats what synaptic is for, deb packages
[05:43] <D1> does anyone know of a good gtk2 ftp client (not gftp)?
[05:43] <GigaClon> link to how to do it?
[05:44] <nickrud> GigaClon pointing at man pages is frowned on here, but take a look at man dpkg-scanpackages
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> D1: nautilus
[05:44] <D1> yeah, I just thought of that. but does it do SFTP?
[05:44] <GigaClon> I downloaded a game in .deb format from freshmeat
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> D1: dunno, try it
[05:45] <nickrud> GigaClon then, to get just that deb installed, dpkg -i <game.deb> in a terminal
[05:46] <nickrud> the package will show up in synaptic, after doing that, as a local package.
[05:47] <trinidad> Help with KDE 3.4 and translucency window features: Composite extension not found You MUST us XOrg> 6.8 for traslucency and shadows to work
[05:47] <GigaClon> !paste
[05:47] <ubotu> hmm... paste is ""http://ubuntu.pastebin.com http://pastebin.com or #flood here on freenode.""
[05:47] <cafuego> pax: There you go, bug is filed.
[05:48] <trinidad> can I undo this if it goes sour?
[05:48] <pax> cafuego: link, I filed one already no response so far.
[05:48] <cafuego> pax: I filed one via 'reportbug'
[05:49] <pax> cafuego: good man.
[05:49] <cafuego> and the list just echoed it back
[05:49] <trinidad> is there a fix for this in ubuntu?
[05:49] <trung> how make windows transparent?
[05:49] <trinidad> yes
[05:49] <GigaClon> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/310325
[05:49] <cafuego> trinidad: Install libxdamage1
[05:49] <trinidad> im using baghira theme and would like to make all windows transparent
[05:49] <trinidad> apt-get?
[05:49] <cafuego> trinidad: And enable the omposite etension. Note it -will_ make X slow and crash.
[05:50] <trinidad> nm
[05:50] <trinidad> other suggestions?
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> !apt
[05:50] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[05:50] <cafuego> trinidad: Check the README file for xcompmgr
[05:50] <trung> trinidad, where is badgira theme?
[05:51] <nickrud> GigaClon my first guess, is you are invoking dpkg in the wrong directory
[05:51] <trinidad> apt-repository
[05:51] <trung> gnome? kde?
[05:51] <GigaClon> it in the same dir as the deb file
[05:52] <trung> how make windows transparent?
[05:52] <nickrud> GigaClon then, assuming I'm in the same dir as your deb, I'd do dpkg -i path<tab> , and if that doesn't work ...
[05:53] <nickrud> GigaClon don't forget sudo
[05:53] <ZeXr0> do you know how many floopy is the woody installer ?
[05:53] <GigaClon> no dice
[05:53] <nickrud> ZeXr0 2
[05:54] <ZeXr0> do you know where I can get it ?
[05:54] <nickrud> ZeXr0 I would assume that debian.org has links, I last looked a couple years ago :)
[05:55] <trung> !transparent
[05:55] <ubotu> trung: Wish i knew
[05:55] <ZeXr0> well I'm looking and all I find is like 20 floppy for the woody installer
[05:55] <trung> !transparents
[05:55] <ubotu> trung: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:55] <trung> !trans
[05:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, trung
[05:55] <gotonpo> anyone know how to make desktop icons display their text to the right/left instead of underneath?
[05:55] <gotonpo> i can do it in the file browser but not in the desktop.
[05:55] <GigaClon> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/310325
[05:55] <GigaClon> oops
[05:56] <GigaClon> sudo dpkg -i ./pathological_1.1.2_i386.deb
[05:56] <GigaClon> that was the line
[05:56] <seth_k> !transparency
[05:56] <ubotu> seth_k: Are you smoking crack?
[05:56] <seth_k> trung: you use xcompmgr
[05:56] <harris|u> !help
[05:56] <nickrud> GigaClon I cannot replicate your error, I'm currently on dialup and cannot play with your deb ;<
[05:57] <valtaric> hey i'm new to the whole linux/ubuntu thing and i was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem i am having..
[05:57] <seth_k> trung: and then after it's running, use transset
[05:57] <seth_k> valtaric: we're all here, just ask :)
[05:57] <harris|u> valtaric, just ask :p
[05:57] <valtaric> ok i'm trying to figure out how to install programs once i d/l them but i can't get it to work..
[05:57] <trung> searcher`, "xcompmgr"
[05:57] <trung> seth_k, xcompmgr
[05:58] <GigaClon> oops my bad, I mean that was the correct line
[05:58] <trung> seth_k, "command not found"
[05:58] <seth_k> trung: you most likely need to install it, through synaptic
[05:58] <adwait> trung: sudo apt-get install xcompmgr
[05:58] <tiglionabbit> !info xcompmgr
[05:58] <ubotu> xcompmgr: (X composition manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.1.1+cvs.20041109-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[05:59] <valtaric> can anyone give me a walkthrough on how to install a .rpm file?
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: you probably don't want to install an rpm file
[06:00] <trung> !universe
[06:00] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[06:00] <valtaric> on well i d/l a wineX program that is a .rpm and i was wondering how to install it.
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: this is ubuntu now, so we're in .deb land.  Is there anywhere you can find a .deb of what you want instead, or find a repository for it?
[06:00] <trung> !repositories
[06:00] <ubotu> I guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:00] <adwait> whats a composite extention?
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: that is cedega
[06:01] <valtaric> yup.
[06:01] <nickrud> tell trung about components
[06:01] <nickrud> all the dumb stuff
[06:01] <concept10> Anyone know how to have the GNOME panel remember locations of widgets when rebooting, etc
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: if you must use that particular rpm, you can convert it to a deb with alien I believe.  But there are other ways of getting cedega
[06:01] <adwait> valtaric: u can convert rpm to deb using alien if u cant fine a deb
[06:01] <nickrud> ubotu tell trung about components
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> concept10: it should do that automatically
[06:02] <concept10> tiglionabbit, it doesnt
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> concept10: does for me...
[06:02] <GigaClon> valtaric: rpm is alien -d /path/to/rpm
[06:02] <adwait> can someone tell me? whats a composite extention?
[06:02] <Amaranth> yay, i go home tomorrow night!
[06:02] <GigaClon> that gets you a deb
[06:02] <valtaric> do you know of a website where i can find a cedega.deb file?
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: transgaming.com
[06:02] <nalioth_zZz> Amaranth: and i'm sure you'll be happy
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> but it costs you, it's a subscription thing...  =[
[06:03] <valtaric> ok and once i get it how would i go about installing it?
[06:03] <tiglionabbit> dpkg --install thecedegafile.deb
[06:03] <concept10> tiglionabbit, for example.. the panel crashed a min ago and all the icons got switched around
[06:03] <tiglionabbit> concept10: perhaps if you had a normal shutdown, rather than crashing it, it would be happier
[06:03] <Amaranth> nalioth_zZz: hehe
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> concept10: I mean a normal logout...
[06:04] <concept10> tiglionabbit,  nevermind... you dont understand
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> k fine, dunno what your prob is
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> can I have a link to the pages for sorting out apt to the latest repos
[06:04] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:04] <adwait> valtaric: dpkg -i <whtever.deb>
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> oh
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> found it
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> dw
[06:05] <adwait> !repositories
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[06:05] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> lol
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: here's the officially supported repos
[06:05] <tiglionabbit> !sources
[06:05] <ubotu> sources is, like, at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[06:05] <spanglesontoast> is there a good podcasting tool?
[06:05] <nickrud> and the other half
[06:05] <nickrud> !components
[06:05] <ubotu> well, components is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[06:06] <spanglesontoast> rite I thought it was compacted into the www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:06] <nickrud> sections, per debian
[06:06] <adwait> 1ubuntuguide
[06:06] <nickrud> sort of :)
[06:06] <adwait> 1ubuntuguide
[06:07] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> don't use ubuntuguide
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: dont use ubuntuguide
[06:07] <adwait> !ubuntuguide
[06:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntuguide
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> dah
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[06:07] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> !ubguide
[06:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubguide was Please do not follow Ubuntuguide; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines (number 3)
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> we are working on a new new users guide.  Read it instead
[06:07] <nickrud> and the only real reason, is that newbies may not understand the steps.
[06:07] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: the u'guide will lead you into evil
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> ok
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> I wrote the NewUbuntuUsers guide for now, while the rest of us pull together an official guide to it all
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> god I haven't used ubuntu for ages
[06:08] <spanglesontoast> where the file i need to dump that stuff into?
[06:08] <mwp> I'm wondering if someone can help me set my trip_points in ACPI. Everytime I try to echo > to it I get permission denied.
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: which file?  /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[06:09] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:09] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:09] <bigfoot1> Hello all: Is there a way to fix the memory leak of Firefox?
[06:09] <spanglesontoast> ah
[06:09] <spanglesontoast> ty
[06:09] <nickrud> Hopefully, then next iteration of the ubuntu guide will drop the bad stuff (like the repositories) and get some documentation
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> bigfoot1: compile a daily build?  dunno
[06:09] <D1> anyone know of a good mp3 tagger/renamer for ubuntu/linux?
[06:09] <nickrud> easytag
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> nickrud: the next iteration is here:
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> !newuser
[06:10] <ubotu> nalioth_zZz: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:10] <nalioth_zZz> !newusers
[06:10] <ubotu> it has been said that newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[06:10] <D1> thanks.
[06:10] <nickrud> nalioth_zZz I breeze over gmane when I can, and I caught a bit about licensing for the ubuntu guide, so I have hopes
[06:11] <spanglesontoast> on that pastebin for the sources do I just remove everything that's in there now
[06:11] <spanglesontoast> or do i just paste at the bottom?
[06:11] <mwp> D1 ... I wrote one in python a long time ago. The id3 tags are just encoded into the mp3 as text at the end of the mp3
[06:11] <nickrud> I only do the wiki ;P
[06:11] <nalioth_zZz> spanglesontoast: you can back up your existing .list and just use the pasted one
[06:12] <nickrud> or ubotu
[06:12] <GigaClon> !pygame
[06:12] <ubotu> GigaClon: Are you smoking crack?
[06:12] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[06:12] <D1> audio tag tool looks good but I dont think its .deb
[06:12] <GigaClon> it seem my deb package requires pygame to work, but pygame isn't a package in the system
[06:12] <tiglionabbit> !info easytag
[06:13] <ubotu> easytag: (viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 1.99.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 667 kB, Installed size: 2088 kB
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> D1: get it from apt
[06:13] <mwp> D1: apt-cache search ID3
[06:13] <D1> ok
[06:13] <tiglionabbit> !info ID3
[06:13] <ubotu> id3: (An ID3 Tag Editor), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> !python
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, spanglesontoast
[06:14] <siimo> is there any way to limit a ubuntu computer connecteed to my router to 256kbps downstream max?
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> !spangles
[06:14] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I don't know
[06:14] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: don't expect ubotu to know everything, just topics we've put in it
[06:14] <cafuego> siimo: Yes.
[06:14] <siimo> i want to game on the other computer and i dont want my brother leeching slowing me down
[06:14] <cafuego> !info python
[06:14] <spanglesontoast> lol
[06:14] <ubotu> python: (An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)), section python, is standard. Version: 2.4.1-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 532 kB
[06:14] <siimo> cafuego, how
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> siimo: are there options on your router?
[06:15] <jtan325> what does ubuntu use instead of .xsession?
[06:15] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: instead of?
[06:15] <spanglesontoast> what's the best podcasting tool?
[06:16] <jtan325> is that what gdm uses?
[06:16] <siimo> tiglionabbit, theres QoS but only upstream
[06:16] <jtan325> .xsession?
[06:16] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: ubuntu does use .xsession
[06:16] <jtan325> hmmm
[06:16] <D1> oooo, its called tagtool
[06:16] <siimo> tiglionabbit, is there a way by installing a program on that PC itself
[06:16] <cafuego> siimo: First off, try 'trickle'. if that won't do, give 'shaper' a try.
[06:16] <tiglionabbit> siimo: I don't know
[06:16] <siimo> like netlimiter on windows
[06:16] <jtan325> tiglionabbit, do i have to do anything special
[06:16] <jtan325> to make .xsession load
[06:17] <thr1ce> does anyone have streaming trailers (say .mov's) working by chance?
[06:17] <jtan325> i.e. i put a simple line "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession
[06:17] <jtan325> and regardless of which WM i use, it doesn't load
[06:17] <spanglesontoast> !podcasting
[06:17] <ubotu> spanglesontoast: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:17] <siimo> cafuego, thanks ill try
[06:17] <jtan325> or, at least mozilla-firefox doesn't run
[06:17] <adwait> thr1ce: i hv streaming vids workin, not sure if they are .mov, try getting the media connector extention for firefox
[06:18] <biscuit> Hi, im having troubles with installing Wine
[06:18] <biscuit> Can anyone help
[06:18] <adwait> troubles like......?
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: well, there's system -> preferences -> sessions, Startup Items tab
[06:18] <jtan325> but isn't that only for gnome
[06:18] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: yep
[06:18] <biscuit> It goes on and on for like hours with all this stuff in the terminal, and then says No rule to make Target
[06:18] <jtan325> so gdm doesn't actually use .xsession?
[06:18] <ed1t> where can i find .bashrc to add alias?
[06:18] <jtan325> or does it?
[06:19] <jtan325> ed1t, it'll be in your hom directory
[06:19] <biscuit> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `../../dlls/ddraw/tests/ddraw_test.exe.so', needed by `ddraw_test.exe.so'.  Stop.
[06:19] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I don't know
[06:20] <ed1t> jtan325, so type pico /home/.bashrc?
[06:20] <jtan325> ed1t, no
[06:20] <jtan325> pico /home/(your username)/.bashrc
[06:20] <nickrud> biscuit is there any particular reason you're compiling wine?
[06:20] <ed1t> k
[06:20] <reka> ed1t: ~/,bashrc
[06:20] <biscuit> To run Dreamweaver on Linux
[06:20] <tiglionabbit> reka: with a .
[06:20] <FlannelKing> Why would you want to use dreamweaver?
[06:20] <biscuit> And MX Flash
[06:21] <mwp> Well I figured it out. For some reason I couldn't sudo and echo -n "" > trip_points. When I sudo su - root it works
[06:21] <biscuit> And there are other things too
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> biscuit: if I were you, I would check out some of ubuntu's html editing things
[06:21] <jtan325> so does anyone know if ubuntu uses the .xsession or not?
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:21] <thr1ce> adwait, not bad...no sound though
[06:21] <cafuego> jtan325: If you use gdm, then yes.
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: you're right, I'm pretty sure it doesn't
[06:21] <FlannelKing> That wont help with the flash though, but yeah, dreamweaver has better alternatives
[06:22] <jtan325> cafuego, then if i put "mozilla-firefox &" in my .xsession, it should load right?
[06:22] <jtan325> and i definitely use gdm
[06:22] <jtan325> i read somewhere that gdm switched to some other scheme
[06:22] <jtan325> and i am trying to figure out what that is
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> tried "man gdm" ?
[06:22] <cafuego> jtan325: it uses .xsession. Just check if the session type upon login is set to GNoome or not
[06:23] <cafuego> Windows users want crap performance, an ugly UI and buggy software.
[06:23] <cafuego> If they didn't want that, they'd use something else.
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> or they just want to play games
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> :P
[06:24] <spanglesontoast> cedega sucks for ati
[06:24] <nickrud> no, the want gnome, they just don't know it yet :)
[06:24] <jtan325> cafuego, i am trying to use a different window manager
[06:24] <jtan325> or else it'd be easy
[06:25] <thr1ce> damnit, streaming seems impossible
[06:25] <ed1t> how do i get those monitors on my desktop? to show like RAM usage and stuff
[06:26] <thr1ce> gkrellm
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: I don't know, but you can use applications -> system tools -> system monitor
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> !info gkrellm
[06:26] <ubotu> gkrellm: (Multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 952 kB
[06:26] <cafuego> thr1ce: mplayer played a RM from the bbc just fine here, before.
[06:26] <nickrud> ed1t there are various things for that, just don't use gdesklets
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: do you have w32codecs?
[06:26] <thr1ce> yes, but ubuntu requires you to install so many uneeded things for mplayer
[06:26] <thr1ce> yes, I do
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> and mozilla-mplayer ?
[06:27] <thr1ce> i don't have mplayer installed
[06:27] <thr1ce> i refuse
[06:27] <ed1t> nickrud, which one do you recommend?
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: okay, then get vlc-mozilla-plugin
[06:27] <cafuego> thr1ce: if you installed Ubuntu and didn't remove all that pythn shit, I hardly think you can complain about mplayer bloat.
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> thr1ce: or figure out how to make totem-xine do it
[06:27] <nickrud> gkrellm, if you aren't satisfied withe gnome applets
[06:27] <thr1ce> xmms is a dep for example
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> dep of what?
[06:27] <cafuego> !depends mplayer
[06:27] <thr1ce> mplayer
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> well that doesn't matter, you can get beep-media-player anyway
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> I thought xmms was already part of ubuntu
[06:28] <thr1ce> no
[06:28] <reka> it's not
[06:29] <tiglionabbit> !depends ubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <adwait> :p
[06:29] <tiglionabbit> oh shite
[06:29] <cafuego> Yes, it depends on the output libs (sound|video) and xmms
[06:29] <ch_604> O_O
[06:29] <reka> thr1ce: i agree, mplayer shouldn't be including xmms if that is the case.
[06:29] <cafuego> Probably for mp3 support
[06:29] <thr1ce> no, their codecs pack covers pretty much everything
[06:29] <ch_604> ok i have a compile problem
[06:29] <reka> cafuego: doesn't the mplayer codec package have mp3 included?
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> ImportError: No module named wx
[06:29] <spanglesontoast> ?
[06:29] <ch_604> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:29] <cafuego> reka: No idea
[06:30] <Sir-Tez> what's the correct package name for the Microsoft TTF fonts?
[06:30] <cafuego> ch_604: Did you install the conpiler properly? What are you compiling?
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[06:30] <cafuego> Sir-Tez: msttcorefonts
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> noo, no ubotu!  =[
[06:30] <IceDC571> wow what a day.. Mandriva buys Lycoris in order to compete with leading linux distros and Microsoft buys some company for its own anti-virus solution
[06:30] <reka> tiglionabbit: you wore him out :)
[06:30] <cafuego> i'll check teh bot
[06:30] <ch_604> cafuego: compiling bmp. started with ./configure and it game me that
[06:30] <spanglesontoast> what is ImportError: No module named wx
[06:30] <spanglesontoast>  ?
[06:31] <reka> ch_604: why compile?  just apt-get it
[06:31] <IceDC571> ch_604: you are compiling bmp?? hmm..
[06:31] <ch_604> it wont
[06:31] <adwait> !multiple_sounds
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> ch_604: get build-essential if you must compile
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> adwait: the bot is dead
[06:31] <thr1ce> * ubotu has quit (Excess Flood)
[06:31] <ch_604> i do sudo apt-get install beep-media-player and it cant find tha pak
[06:31] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: You broke it!!!
[06:31] <Sir-Tez> cafuego, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate -- that's what I'm getting
[06:31] <adwait> ooh yeah.....i thought he would come back a lil while
[06:31] <hondje> Hello, #ubuntu. I'm getting an assload of errors about not being able to find various usb modules at boot during that modules dependancy checking thing
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> what you're looking for is this though, adwait: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:31] <IceDC571> ch_604: well the repositories have the latest version of bmp, i dont see why you should compile it
[06:32] <adwait> thx tiglionabbit
[06:32] <hondje> Anyone else get that from the latest kernel upgrade?
[06:32] <harris|u> I'm trying to put something in my X-Chat folder, where can I find that folder? ;o
[06:32] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositories
[06:32] <thr1ce> well, I am able to stream movies, but my sound doesn't work
[06:32] <virgule> hellllllo ladies!
[06:32] <thr1ce> soooo
[06:32] <cafuego> !info msttcorefonts
[06:32] <ch_604> cause it wont find the package, and the link off the bmp site is dead
[06:32] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[06:32] <IceDC571> harris|u: try .xchat?
[06:32] <thr1ce> !depends mplayer-386
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> cafuego: bot is dead
[06:32] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo rather
[06:32] <nickrud> ubotu tell Sir-Tez about components
[06:32] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: No, he's not.
[06:32] <ch_604> thx
[06:32] <cafuego> tiglionabbit: I just restarted 'im
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> oh oh, nm, guess it's back now
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> cool
[06:32] <nickrud> is the bot really dead?
[06:33] <thr1ce> yeah, run !depends mplayer-386 once
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> nickrud: not anymore.  cafuego here has performed a ressurection
[06:33] <nickrud> ah, not
[06:33] <cafuego> Sir-Tez: Check that to have multiverse in your sources.list
[06:33] <ed1t> tiglionabbit, do you know any good thingies like gdisklets?
[06:33] <cafuego> Nothing like a good 'killall -9 blootbot'
[06:33] <nickrud> ooh, so now I know the bones :)
[06:34] <reka> nickrud: you couldv'e done a /whois ubotu
[06:34] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: nope
[06:34] <tiglionabbit> !info gdesklets
[06:34] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[06:34] <nickrud> reka did that a while ago, but I do have some repect moment to monent :)
[06:34] <harris|u> IceDC571, in ~/?
[06:36] <kvidell> I knew a man, Bojangles, and he'd dance for you... in worn out shoes...
[06:36] <bojangles> where did that Church of Foamy guy go who runs this website....and why does he want to promote everyone to commit suicide as you can see by pressing the play button at this url
[06:36] <spanglesontoast> pyxmms where can I grab it?
[06:36] <bojangles> http://friendsoffoamy.com/index.php?id=91
[06:37] <cafuego> Foamy is the antichrist, he does not worship me.
[06:37] <kvidell> lol
[06:37] <kvidell> bojangles: You've never watched IllWillPress have you?
[06:37] <kvidell> It's a cartoon series :-P
[06:37] <kvidell> I doubt he actually wants you to kill yourself.
[06:37] <kvidell> just a cartoon
[06:38] <xlsMessenger> do i have to close the apps if i'm doing a apt-get upgrade?
[06:38] <cafuego> xlsMessenger: nope
[06:38] <ed1t> does ubuntu support fluxbox?
[06:38] <cafuego> ed1t: yes
[06:38] <kvidell> ed1t: yes.
[06:38] <cafuego> xlsMessenger: Just restart any aps that get upgraded when the upgrade is done.
[06:39] <cafuego> fist, too
[06:39] <xlsMessenger> cafuego, thanks
[06:39] <ed1t> is it in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:39] <reka> xlsMessenger: are you using backports?
[06:39] <cafuego> ed1t: Why not check first, then ask?
[06:39] <ed1t> k
[06:39] <ZeXr0> I got woody netinstall but I don't know how I can netinstall it :s
[06:39] <cafuego> ZeXr0: #debian is there -->
[06:39] <adwait> ed1t: it is thr
[06:40] <adwait> ed1t: u can use apt-cache search <whatever> to search for any package :)
[06:40] <ch_604> reka: that page does not exist
[06:40] <ZeXr0> well cafuego it's to install ubuntu
[06:40] <ed1t> ooo thx adwait
[06:40] <adwait> np
[06:40] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowTo
[06:40] <newbie> i found this strange binary file ##picat copying itself on some of my directories is it a virus
[06:40] <nickrud> ZeXr0 are you trying to get from a floppy boot to ubuntu, by any chance?
[06:41] <valtaric> can anyone tell me how to install a debian program?
[06:41] <tiglionabbit> valtaric: dpkg --install theprogram.deb
[06:41] <ZeXr0> nickrud yeah nalioth_zZz told be how via debian woody install
[06:41] <cafuego> ZeXr0: Nevertheless a woody install is a #debian issue.
[06:41] <ch_604> reka: This page does not exist yet.
[06:42] <nickrud> valtaric sure, I can, but, why ever would you want to?
[06:42] <cafuego> THogh woody is old and upping it to Ubuntu will quite probably fail.
[06:42] <Speedy2> Is this package gtk-qt-engine supposed to be in "universe" ? I have that enabled, did apt-get update but can't seem to find it
[06:42] <PPC_Guy> hey all, question.. Asked earlier but didn't get anything back.. Anyone have bitchx installed with warty?
[06:42] <ZeXr0> nalioth_zZz told me that itis possible via woody and not via sarge
[06:42] <nickrud> ZeXr0 I've seen a few links that may help, but I've never tried. A second.
[06:43] <Speedy2> Ah found it
[06:43] <Speedy2> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[06:43] <cafuego> ZeXr0: I imagine you need to boot the cd, install, edit the sources.list file
[06:43] <ed1t> why not just use ubuntu instead of getting debian woody and then upgrading
[06:43] <xlsMessenger> reka, yes, i'm using backport
[06:43] <tiglionabbit> is there any way that I can play both RealPlayer and Quicktime files in Totem?  With totem-gstreamer, it plays quicktime, and with totem-xine it plays realplayer.  But I can't have both at once!
[06:43] <ZeXr0> I can't boot the cd
[06:43] <reka> ch_604: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:43] <ZeXr0> I only got floppyu
[06:43] <Geoffrian> Could someone please tell me how to extract files from an ISO without burning and mounting?????????
[06:43] <ZeXr0> else I would get the installation for Ubuntu
[06:43] <nickrud> ZeXr0 but, what cafuego says is basically what you'll do
[06:44] <ZeXr0> I don't have a cddrive
[06:44] <crimsun> Geoffrian: load the loop kernel module, mount the iso using the loop option, then retrieve the file.
[06:44] <xlsMessenger> reka, do i need to do something else if i'm using backports?
[06:44] <IceDC571> what the crap.. gtk2 and qt?
[06:44] <IceDC571> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[06:44] <Speedy2> IceDC571: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - Makes your GTK 2 apps look like Qt ones
[06:44] <jtan325> man this is making me pull my hair out. does anyone know how to get programs to start on log-in, when using a different window manager than the defualt gnome?
[06:44] <reka> xlsMessenger: you should limit your use of backports...upgrading with BP in sources.list could possibly lead to problems
[06:44] <IceDC571> oh
[06:44] <Geoffrian> crimsun:  I do not completely follow.
[06:44] <ch_604> reka: youre not helping, that page isnt there
[06:44] <reka> jtan325: what WM?
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: small 't'
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: i've got the page open right now
[06:45] <crimsun> Geoffrian: sudo modprobe loop && mount -o loop foo.iso /somewhere && cp $whatever $there
[06:45] <Geoffrian> I had retrieved a file from Ubuntu that told me how to mount an ISO, but it did not show to files I would see if I actually ran the CD.
[06:45] <ZeXr0> if I had a cddrive, I would take a floppy to boot from cdrom, but actually I don't have a cdrom and the Netboot isn't woking so I'm trying with woody netinstall
[06:45] <ch_604> ooook thx
[06:45] <reka> ch_604: yeah, sorry bout that :)
[06:45] <jtan325> reka, openbox
[06:46] <jtan325> reka, opebox's docs say to use .xsession if you're using gdm (which i am)
[06:46] <jtan325> but it is not running
[06:46] <GigaClon> ubuntu have a common lisp compiler?
[06:46] <xlsMessenger> reka, just one: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/
[06:46] <xlsMessenger> is it ok?
[06:46] <crimsun> GigaClon: sure. Enable universe and search for one.
[06:46] <IceDC571> ubuntu has a lisp?
[06:47] <cafuego> lithp
[06:47] <nickrud> ZeXr0 the links I remembered don't mention the woody floppies; nalioth is not stupid, so, maybe you'll want to wait till he's around again
[06:47] <reka> xlsMessenger: the general advice is to only grab packages you need from BP and then comment it out
[06:47] <jtan325> reka, do you have any ideas?
[06:47] <bojangles> of course maybe foamy was trying to get people to commit suicide so they would never know about this graphic scene from GTA
[06:47] <bojangles> http://www.gtasanandreas.net/screenshots/gallery.php?image=1914
[06:47] <xlsMessenger> reka, i see, thanks
[06:47] <Ahab> who actually runs http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/?
[06:48] <Geoffrian> Crimsun:  What should I put in for $whatever $there???
[06:48] <IceDC571> a fedora user
[06:48] <Geoffrian> My mount point?  (/media/iso)?
[06:48] <crimsun> Geoffrian: the file you want and its destination, respectively
[06:48] <bojangles> it takes a while to load...but it clearly shows all the big niggers that work for the filthy rich JEWS....and how they enjoy raping all the white women
[06:48] <hondje> ZeXr0: you can do net install from woody, just pin to hoary in /etc/apt/preferences
[06:48] <reka> jtan325: not really, i'm not really familiar with the WM
[06:48] <Aerebus> Can anyone here thats using Ubuntu compile the source code of a program for me or help me with it? i've been having one tough time here trying to get this little program working and i keep getting the same error
[06:48] <bojangles> just like that bastard Dr. Martin Luther King
[06:48] <jtan325> reka, but the WM doesn't really have anything to do with my question
[06:49] <ZeXr0> hondje actually there's nothing installed yet...
[06:49] <Speedy2> Aerebus:  What's the error?
[06:49] <crimsun> bojangles: quit it.
[06:49] <Geoffrian> foo.iso is the want file though?  Now you're confusing me.
[06:49] <jtan325> i would like to know where is the actual file that gets executed by gdm when a user logs in
[06:49] <Aerebus> Speedy2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/465
[06:49] <jtan325> or the user-level file
[06:49] <GigaClon> I don't see lithp in synaptic
[06:50] <spanglesontoast> what's the best podcasting client?
[06:50] <Aerebus> Speed2, the file is hosted on sourceforge if you wanna take a look at the fustration i'm dealing with lol
[06:50] <IceDC571> spanglesontoast: itunes
[06:50] <GigaClon> lol @ IceDC571
[06:50] <Speedy2> Aerebus: Try doing sudo apt-get install libglademm2.0-dev
[06:51] <IceDC571> did ubotu die?
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> there isn't a version for linu
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> linux
[06:51] <spanglesontoast> or ubuntu
[06:51] <Am|NickTaken> ubotu: smeg
[06:51] <IceDC571> there's a version for wine ;)
[06:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, smeg is a Gnome menu editor. Get it at at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[06:51] <Am|NickTaken> nope, ubotu is fine
[06:51] <siimo> does hoary recognise/support sata controllers
[06:51] <ColonelKernel> siimo, mine does
[06:51] <IceDC571> !Amaranth
[06:51] <crimsun> siimo: yes, but you may need a newer kernel, like the one in Breezy
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: :D
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Who added that?
[06:52] <IceDC571> Amaranth: i thought you did?
[06:52] <siimo> crimsun, i tried installing fedora on it and it simply froze saying no hdd found
[06:52] <Amaranth> IceDC571: Oh yeah, I was showing someone how ubotu did actions.
[06:52] <Amaranth> ubotu: forget Amaranth
[06:52] <ubotu> i forgot amaranth, Amaranth
[06:52] <siimo> mind you this was a 2 yr old fedora
[06:52] <crimsun> siimo: sorry, don't know too much regarding Fedora
[06:53] <ed1t> crap...i installed kubuntu to test it out and now all my settings are changed on gnome...i even uninstalled it but my default browser is changed to konquere
[06:53] <IceDC571> ed1t: isnt kde great?
[06:54] <ed1t> no
[06:54] <ed1t> gnome rocks!!!
[06:54] <ed1t> kde sucks
[06:54] <crimsun> let's keep the desktop environment wars outta here, shall we? :)
[06:54] <ed1t> heh
[06:54] <IceDC571> no....
[06:54] <IceDC571> explorer.exe rocks!!!!!!!
[06:54] <ed1t> so how do i change my setting back to gnome?
[06:54] <ed1t> hahhaha
[06:55] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: rofl
[06:55] <Aerebus> Speedy2, lol it worked thanks man
[06:55] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: when you login, click on sessions, and select gnome
[06:56] <IceDC571> i compiled sharpmusique.. and it created sharpmusique.exe i was like what the crap
[06:56] <bojangles> crimsun, the Foamy guy was the one who came in here and started talking about games....in particular he mentioned the famous one 7th Guest and i suspect he was trying to hide the graphics scenes in GTA from everyone that cause it to be a bestseller
[06:56] <nickrud> I talked to Foamy for a bit, he seemed normal
[06:57] <IceDC571> i love xfce right now, i used to hate it
[06:57] <Aerebus> Ice, isnt xfce the terminal or something?
[06:57] <crimsun> bojangles: that's great. What does that have to do with your irc client espousing various racial slurs, regardless of "who said it first"?
[06:57] <IceDC571> Aerebus: its another window manager
[06:57] <Speedy2> Aerebus: You're welcome.  If you look at your output, it was failing because it didn't have that library.  What I did was sudo apt-get update . then apt-cache search libglademm
[06:58] <tiglionabbit> Aerebus: no, it's another desktop envirnoment like gnome
[06:58] <nickrud> but, considering who may run for offices ...
[06:58] <Speedy2> Aerebus: It returned me the options and I gave you the "dev" option
[06:58] <noob-leech> I'm planning to format my NTFS partitions...
[06:59] <ed1t> blah
[06:59] <IceDC571> was OS X really based off of freebsd?
[06:59] <noob-leech> I just wonder... which format would you recommend?
[06:59] <crimsun> IceDC571: userspace portions, yes
[06:59] <ed1t> it still got konquerer and bunch of other stuff
[06:59] <sproingie> IceDC571: it's based off of mach
[06:59] <ed1t> i uninstalled kde and made gdm as a default
[06:59] <nickrud> noob-leech ntfs for your real windows, a fat32 for moving things, and the rest linux
[06:59] <sproingie> IceDC571: freebsd was used for the unix layer.  cocoa was based off of nextstep
[06:59] <Aerebus> tiglionabbit, i've seen on art-gnome these terminal themes, are those for gnome or xfce?
[07:00] <IceDC571> terminal themes?
[07:00] <Aerebus> like hacked boarders etc
[07:00] <IceDC571> i think you might be talking about metacity?
[07:00] <Aerebus> i'll find a linky
[07:00] <ed1t> BLAHHHHHH!!! i hate kde....freaking deleted all my favs, everything from gnome
[07:00] <ed1t> i mean from firefox
[07:00] <holycow> it shouldnt of done that
[07:01] <holycow> what do you mean kde deleted it?
[07:01] <noob-leech> nickrud: So, if I want to use a partition for both Windows and Linux, is FAT32 the only choice available?
[07:01] <nickrud> ed1t that'll teach you, create a new user for anything wierd, like kde :)
[07:01] <IceDC571> nickrud: you can use ext3 and reiserfs.. but you'll have to install a driver in windows
[07:01] <nickrud> noob-leech no, there are others, that's just what I am comfortable with
[07:01] <sproingie> noob-leech: if you want both to write to it, yes.  there's ways around it, but they're not pretty
[07:01] <ed1t> i mean when i open firefox now...all my favorites are gone, other settings and now konquerer is my default browser even though i delete kde
[07:01] <ed1t> kde is evil!
[07:02] <sproingie> noob-leech: one involves using colinux in windows and running samba on colinux
[07:02] <holycow> ed1t, chances are its not gone
[07:02] <ed1t> then?
[07:02] <nickrud> It's been hacked to death, so it works
[07:02] <holycow> just a new profile under firefox is created
[07:02] <holycow> with a blank bookmarks.html file
[07:02] <holycow> check your ./mozilla dir in your home dir
[07:02] <holycow> your looking for bookmarks.html file
[07:02] <holycow> or singular of that
[07:03] <noob-leech> Ouch.... I just want to use some Windows app... but WINE never works for me... =/
[07:03] <Aerebus> IceDC, http://oceanic.wsisiz.edu.pl/~slabosz/wordpress/?page_id=20
[07:03] <noob-leech> Thanks for your suggestions, sproingie and nickrud.
[07:03] <ed1t> there is no booksmarks.html file
[07:03] <sproingie> noob-leech: then download it to your windows partition.  linux can read ntfs just fine.  it's write that has problems
[07:03] <Aerebus> those look like terminals to me but they say xfce
[07:04] <ed1t> grrr kde
[07:04] <ed1t> this pisses me off
[07:04] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: what does?
[07:04] <ed1t> kde
[07:04] <IceDC571> Aerebus: those are xfce themes, they are just showing it off by using terminals lol
[07:04] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: why?
[07:04] <hondje> can anyone lsmod | grep ohci for me?
[07:04] <sproingie> ed1t: not to deflate the kde-hatred you're obviously enjoying, but konq doesn't touch firefox
[07:04] <Aerebus> blah
[07:04] <Aerebus> lol
[07:05] <Aerebus> i want me terminal t look like the borderless one!
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ohci1394               34596  0
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ieee1394              108312  2 ohci1394,sbp2
[07:05] <ed1t> i installed kde and it deleted all my firefox settings, favorites, and stuff
[07:05] <hondje> thanks tiglionabbit
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> hondje: ^
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[07:05] <IceDC571> btw, isnt apple's safari browser based off of konqueror?
[07:05] <ed1t> sproingie, i dunno wat happened then...coz everythings gone
[07:05] <sproingie> ed1t: i find firefox does that just fine on its own
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> ed1t: it wont have.  You can create different profiles in firefox.  Make sure you're using the same one
[07:06] <ed1t> im using the default profile
[07:06] <IceDC571> i just hate how in kde everything you see is Kthis, Kthat
[07:06] <jtan325> does ANYONE know what file gdm executes on each user's login?
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> rofl, IceDC571
[07:06] <ed1t> lol
[07:06] <jtan325> i.e. when you edit "sessions" using the gnome preferences
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> I think they were Trying to do that.
[07:07] <jtan325> what file does that edit?
[07:07] <david_> anyone know of any good dock apps / launcher type things
[07:07] <nickrud> venom has no value, if you know what it's about :)
[07:07] <jtan325> this is ridiculous, it seems like no one knows the answer to this
[07:07] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: we don't.  Try asking on ubuntuforums
[07:07] <tiglionabbit> .org
[07:07] <nickrud> jtan325 I've been using gnome for over 5 years, and have never found that file.
[07:07] <IceDC571> david_: have you tried gDesklets?
[07:08] <nickrud> jtan325 I use .gnomerc
[07:08] <ed1t> never touching kde again
[07:08] <jtan325> hmmmm nickrud, that is interesting
[07:08] <david_> IceDC571, not yet
[07:08] <spanglesontoast> wheres xmms-mp3?
[07:08] <bruno> can someone tell me if linux-image-2.6.10-5-K7 works wich sempron?
[07:08] <IceDC571> david_: theres also engage but its a pain to set up
[07:09] <crimsun> bruno: yes
[07:09] <bruno> crimsun, tks
[07:09] <crimsun> yw
[07:09] <bojangles> crimsun, well Crimsun you obviously must not have a treasured little girl that you would not like raped by big niggers to produce off-colored children....and perhaps even kill them like OJSimpson did.
[07:09] <eliUbuntu> question, why does xine play dvd's at a non-uniform rate?
[07:09] <bruno> crimsun, to install -K7 package, do i have do deinstall -386 package?
[07:09] <nickrud> jtan325 .gnomerc is used like .xsession, as best I have tested
[07:09] <IceDC571> everything works with sempron, unless its SSE2 or AMD64... or PPC.... also SSE3
[07:09] <IceDC571> also hyperthreading
[07:09] <jtan325> nickrud, have you used other WM's?
[07:10] <IceDC571> and SMP
[07:10] <reka> eliUbuntu: you probably need to enable DMA
[07:10] <david_> IceDC571, yah ive tried engage but didnt get it working
[07:10] <jtan325> nickrud, and is it ~/.gnomerc?
[07:10] <eliUbuntu> reka: how do you enable DMA mode?
[07:10] <nickrud> jtan325 name them, I've probably at least looked at them
[07:10] <IceDC571> !dma
[07:10] <eliUbuntu> in xine?
[07:10] <IceDC571> eliUbuntu: type !dma, ubotu will give you the answers
[07:11] <daniels> crimsun: oh, sorry, didn't see our +q
[07:11] <daniels> er, your +q
[07:11] <nickrud> jtan325 ~/.gomerc: currently I set the PATH there, so any scripts I want from ~/bin are available from ALT-F2
[07:11] <eliUbuntu> !dma
[07:11] <crimsun> daniels: np
[07:11] <spanglesontoast> when can I grab xmms-mp3?
[07:11] <reka> eliUbuntu: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: you want to play mp3s?  Get gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:12] <eliUbuntu> thanks reka
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:12] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[07:12] <spanglesontoast> what happened to xmms?
[07:12] <eliUbuntu> checking it out now
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: beep-media-player is better than xmms anyway.  But yeah, you can get that if you want
[07:12] <spanglesontoast> where?
[07:12] <reka> eliUbuntu: you'll need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf if you want it to be enabled on startup
[07:13] <reka> spanglesontoast: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:13] <IceDC571> apt-get? are we back in the 90's??
[07:13] <GigaClon> !clisp
[07:13] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, GigaClon
[07:14] <noob-leech> I've just come across a package, which contains a .so and a .la file.
[07:14] <IceDC571> noob-leech: yes?
[07:14] <noob-leech> Does anyone know if there is any way to install that package?
[07:14] <hondje> what do ?--S-----t permissions mean?
[07:14] <IceDC571> noob-leech: whats the full filename of the package?
[07:14] <noob-leech> IceDC571, bmp-flac-plugin ..
[07:14] <crimsun> GigaClon: look at gcl, for instance
[07:15] <ch_604> ok, still cant find a deb for bmp
[07:15] <noob-leech> It contains libbmp-flac.so and libbmp-flac.la ..
[07:15] <IceDC571> noob-leech: the flac plugin doesnt work for bmp unless you compile it
[07:15] <reka> ch_604: it's in universe
[07:16] <reka> ch_604: did you enable it using the link i gave?
[07:16] <dabaR> hondje: where did you get that?
[07:16] <GigaClon> I am trying to install clisp, the ubuntu website lists it as a package but I don't see it in synaptic
[07:16] <ch_604> sure did
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> !info clisp
[07:16] <ubotu> clisp: (GNU CLISP, a Common Lisp implementation), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1:2.33.2-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 2206 kB, Installed size: 6908 kB
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> GigaClon: it is in the universe repository
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[07:16] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:16] <hondje> dabaR: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/usb/host
[07:16] <noob-leech> IceDC571, let me try to compile it again....
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> read that guide, it should explain how to add it
[07:16] <dabaR> symbolic link?
[07:16] <hondje> Yes
[07:16] <reka> ch_604: how are you installing?
[07:17] <reka> ch_604: apt-get or CL?
[07:17] <reka> whoops
[07:17] <nickrud> jtan325 actually, the gnome session file is found as ~/.gnome2/session
[07:17] <dabaR> then thats what the [perms mean, maybe.
[07:17] <reka> synaptic or CL? :)
[07:17] <ch_604> apt-get
[07:17] <jtan325> nickrud, yeah
[07:17] <hondje> dabaR: Maybe, the ? is what throws me
[07:17] <reka> and you ran sudo apt-get update?
[07:18] <dabaR> its in the place wehre you usually have the d, or -
[07:18] <ch_604> yea, there was nothing to update
[07:18] <noob-leech> The bmp-flac plugin... I can't seem to compile it. =/
[07:18] <nickrud> jtan325 I actually knew that, I forgot until I thought again
[07:18] <dabaR> maybe it dont know if its a dir or not, so it says ?
[07:18] <dabaR> I mean, thats just a guess....
[07:18] <reka> ch_604: then you haven't saved the file or something's wrong with your sources.list
[07:18] <hondje> it's not a dir
[07:18] <hondje> those say d there
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> thanks reka
[07:19] <reka> ch_604: ready-to-use sources.list: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:19] <hondje> I'll have to just whip out my bash book
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> it worked
[07:19] <reka> eliUbuntu: goodo
[07:19] <eliUbuntu> another question, what is a good website developing program for ubuntu? or linux in general?
[07:19] <dabaR> hehe, hondje, do csh in a terminal, do ls, and tell me if it changed;)
[07:19] <hosler> Who needs edonkey when you have google?
[07:20] <hondje> dabaR: eww, csh ;)
[07:20] <dabaR> lets do some c shell scripting together:)
[07:20] <hondje> by the sea shore
[07:20] <absinthe_> lol
[07:20] <dabaR> lol
[07:20] <hondje> yep, sure does
[07:21] <dabaR> hondje: changed???
[07:21] <hondje> yeah
[07:21] <hosler> Does steam work well with cedega?
[07:21] <dabaR> wow
[07:21] <hondje> with a % and everything
[07:21] <dabaR> into what
[07:21] <dabaR> ?
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, no not really
[07:21] <dabaR> I mean, the permissions changed?
[07:21] <noob-leech> Hmm... I can't compile the bmp-flac plugin...
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, it is VERY slow with halflife 2
[07:21] <hosler> absinthe_: what does work well with cedega?
[07:21] <noob-leech> Would anyone here please check what has gone wrong?
[07:21] <ramiro> holas
[07:21] <absinthe_> hosler, the original half life works well.
[07:22] <ramiro> como me conecto a un servidor en espaol
[07:22] <hosler> ok
[07:22] <absinthe_> hosler, or UT2k4 works great and it runs native in linu
[07:22] <hondje> no, it didn't change
[07:22] <hosler> haha ok
[07:22] <hondje> sure doesn't change means I
[07:22] <reka> noob-leech: join their IRC channel while you wait: irc://irc.chatjunkies.org/bmp
[07:23] <dabaR> ok, yes, I didnt expect it to, cause its independent of the shell, that is why I said that, cause you said you were gonna find out in a bash book.
[07:23] <noob-leech> Thanks, reka.
[07:24] <hondje> dabaR: how do you redirect w/ csh?
[07:24] <hosler> Whats the difference between cedega and winex3?
[07:24] <dabaR> redirect? like > ?
[07:24] <hondje> yeah
[07:25] <hondje> bash isn't letting me redirect the output from strace
[07:25] <gold> does anyone know why my /etc/resolv.conf doesnt save when i reboot?
[07:26] <dabaR> same, hondje.
[07:26] <dabaR> there is standard error, that is why it is not redirecting, I think,.
[07:26] <dabaR> there are tricks for it, like &3 or something, I cant rememner any moer
[07:26] <Flav> hondje: where do you want to redirect the output to?
[07:27] <hondje> Flav: a file
[07:27] <sinferno> is there a way to get tome to play avi and mpg?
[07:27] <Go_pLastic> anyone know who to get .avi and .mpg files working?
[07:27] <sinferno> lol
[07:27] <Flav> hondje:        -o filename Write  the  trace output to the file filename rather than to stderr.
[07:27] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <bob2> hondje: I hope you have backups
[07:27] <hondje> Flav: oh, awesome, thanks
[07:27] <jasoncohen> if any users asks about multimedia apps they should use or about info on the apps, i have written up a wiki page with descriptions and screenshots of several audio & video apps as well as info on divx/xvid/quicktime/windows media/realplayer support & playing embedded movies in firefox + DVDs. the link is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?action=show
[07:27] <bob2> Go_pLastic: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:27] <hondje> bob2: so it is as screwed as I thought?
[07:28] <Flav> hondje: redirecting stderr would be foo 2> file   in bash, might be the same in csh too, i'm not sure
[07:28] <bob2> hondje: I'd assume the disk is physically failing
[07:28] <dabaR> why new user, in all those names?
[07:28] <hondje> bob2: Why would you assume that?
[07:28] <bob2> hondje: but it could be a kernel problem (highly unlikely)
[07:28] <hondje> smartctl doesn't think so
[07:28] <jasoncohen> so far i have included beep-media-player, amarok, rhythmbox, xine-ui, totem and i'm planning to add vlc and more info on mplayer
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: i/o error = hardware puked when the kernel tried to read from it
[07:29] <againstme> if i need to download a program, do i just pick the program that is made for debian to be able to run it on ubuntu
[07:29] <hondje> bob2: that's why I'm stracing and the like...it only does that on the usb modules
[07:29] <hosler> againstme: anything with .deb at the end.
[07:29] <againstme> ok thanks
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: i've only seen that error in two cases: failing disk, or a messed up filesystem module I wrote
[07:29] <bob2> hondje: look in the output of 'dmesg'
[07:30] <hondje> attempt to access beyond end of device
[07:30] <hondje> hda1: rw=0, want=1076716952, limit=48821472
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: strace won't be useful, it'll just show the stat() or read() calls getting an error code
[07:30] <dabaR> hosler: >:(
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: that's Bad
[07:30] <bestari10> terengganu
[07:30] <hosler> dabaR: what?
[07:30] <bob2> hondje: tho I guess it could just mean the partition table is screwed up
[07:30] <dabaR> why did you answer that, it is not really tru...
[07:30] <bestari10> amy
[07:31] <hosler> dabaR: works for me.
[07:31] <dabaR> ok, then.
[07:32] <hondje> EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
[07:32] <hondje> init_special_inode: bogus i_mode (72127)
[07:32] <hondje> then 30 or 40 of those
[07:32] <dabaR> you go insatll .debs to your system...
[07:33] <D3v> Hey All! I just installed kubuntu! but i have no internet. i need help on configuring it because i really don't know what im doing! can anyone help me please?
[07:33] <dabaR> what kind of internet do you have?
[07:33] <D3v> Cable
[07:33] <dabaR> ok, do you connect with ethernet or USB?
[07:33] <D3v> ethernet
[07:33] <dabaR> good, so, why is it not working? do you use a router?
[07:33] <bob2> hondje: warranty time, methinks
[07:34] <bob2> hondje: or maybe disable dma and reboot
[07:34] <D3v> yes im using a linseys router but ports have been foward a;ready
[07:34] <hondje> bob2: okay, I'll give those a shot after smartctl finishes the long test
[07:34] <Speedy2> D3v: Can you ping the router
[07:34] <Speedy2> ?
[07:35] <dabaR> not cause of that, I ask for some other reason.
[07:35] <bestari10> haii
[07:35] <bob2> it's odd that smart doesn't see a probem
[07:35] <dabaR> do you have ubuntu booted now?
[07:35] <dabaR> do you ahve it in front of you?
[07:35] <bob2> D3v: port forwarding has nothing to do with your machine being able to access the internet, btw
[07:35] <D3v> yes Dabar i do
[07:35] <dabaR> ok, go System>Admin>Networking.
[07:35] <D3v> bob2 ok =(
[07:36] <dabaR> Tell me what do you see there.
[07:36] <dabaR> if there is a eth0.
[07:36] <IceDC571> hmm... im thinking of switching to debian
[07:36] <spanglesontoast> finally got iPodder working
[07:36] <dabaR> I mean, whether.
[07:36] <dabaR> IceDC571: good call:)
[07:36] <dabaR> I did too recently...I still use Ubuntu more.
[07:36] <spanglesontoast> http://ipodder.sourceforge.net/support/viewtopic.php?t=160 that helps
[07:37] <dabaR> spanglesontoast: good for you.
[07:37] <dabaR> brb
[07:37] <IceDC571> debian's repositories are really up to date
[07:37] <eliUbuntu> jasoncohen: thanks for the multimedia link. very good source
[07:37] <D3v> dabaR theres no admin under System ?
[07:37] <jasoncohen> eliUbuntu, np- if you want me to add anything to ask
[07:38] <jasoncohen> eliUbuntu, we still have to add vlc
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> what is vlc?
[07:38] <jasoncohen> !vlc
[07:38] <ubotu> methinks vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> thanks
[07:38] <eliUbuntu> !vlc
[07:38] <D3v> VLC  is great
[07:38] <dabaR> D3v: hwo about Administration?
[07:38] <jasoncohen> unfortunately the screenshot for totem didn't work- it just shows a blue screen
[07:38] <jasoncohen> but the xine one came out very nicely
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget vlc
[07:39] <ubotu> i forgot vlc, tiglionabbit
[07:39] <D3v> dabaR: no admin , administration at all
[07:39] <dabaR> hah, stupid me, kubuntu you said:)
[07:40] <dabaR> ok, well, do this, /join #flood as your message.
[07:40] <dabaR> hurry hurry
[07:40] <dabaR> :)
[07:41] <hondje> long smartctl test passed
[07:41] <hondje> :-/
[07:41] <spanglesontoast> why is xmms-mp3 not in the repos?
[07:42] <phzi> hey everyone
[07:42] <phzi> I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package
[07:43] <delltony> anyone here have any experience getting mplayer to compile with libmp3lame support?
[07:43] <phzi> now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:43] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:44] <spanglesontoast> grrr
[07:44] <spanglesontoast> wheres mp3?
[07:44] <phzi> anyone ever hear of anything like that?
[07:45] <FlannelKing> spanglesontoast, what about xmms-mad?
[07:46] <x55> i've got a very important question
[07:46] <x55> where did linux get the penguin?  hehehe
[07:46] <spanglesontoast> why has it changed to mad rather than mp3?
[07:46] <x55> when i think of an OS, i must say, flightless birds do not immediately come to mind
[07:47] <nickrud> spanglesontoast it's a developer thing, don't ask, I say
[07:47] <x55> hehehe
[07:47] <spanglesontoast> ok xmms still crashes odd
[07:47] <Aerebus> anyone know if there is a "sudo empty trash" command? lol
[07:47] <paul_> esound?
[07:48] <phzi> Aerebus: sudo rm -fr $HOME/.Trash/
[07:48] <spanglesontoast> yea esound works fine oss and alsa don't work
[07:48] <spanglesontoast> odd
[07:48] <phzi> will forcefully empty the gnome trash
[07:48] <nickrud> spanglesontoast no, that is exactly correct
[07:48] <paul_> ya odd that xmms isnt included in the first place
[07:49] <Aerebus> lol ty phzi
[07:49] <phzi> no worries
[07:49] <nickrud> spanglesontoast there are sound cards that can do hardware mixing, and those that don't
[07:49] <adwait> hey again ppl'
[07:49] <znh> hmm.. anyone noticed that you can't change the background in XFCE4 ?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> x55, tux (which is his name) is what linus picked (hesaid he was rather fond of the penguin) : http://www.sjbaker.org/tux/
[07:49] <nickrud> if you have one that does, you're set, otherwise use esound until breezy (we all hope)
[07:49] <phzi>  I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:49] <x55> tux!
[07:49] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:49] <phzi> anyone aware of this issue?
[07:49] <x55> thank you
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> it's worked before thou
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> hey everyone, i've got a big problem, my sisters computer won't even boot, it freezes when starting GDM
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> oh
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> I got ya
[07:50] <spanglesontoast> is that because of gnome making sounds?
[07:50] <GigaClon> anyone know a good linux games downloading site?
[07:50] <znh> Garathor: yes
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> i don't know what to tell you guys besides that right before graveman froze and it was rebooted and then the next time it was started it wouldn't start gdm
[07:50] <adwait> thechitowncubs: graphic card divers ok?
[07:50] <adwait> *drivers
[07:50] <paul_> ati x300 gpu drivers? where would those be anyone
[07:50] <thechitowncubs> yep
[07:51] <adwait> thechitowncubs: does it show like vertical greenish lines on the screen?
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> it freezes but it shows the active/busy mouse cursor
[07:51] <znh> GigaClon: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> no
[07:51] <thechitowncubs> i can't even do: ctrl+alt+f1
[07:51] <phzi> paul_: ati.com
[07:51] <phzi> they have linux drivers
[07:51] <paul_> duh , lol
[07:51] <nickrud> spanglesontoast I've probaly bitten off more than I can chew at the the moment, but:
[07:51] <nickrud> alsa is the kernel sound system.
[07:51] <znh> I need some seriouse help.. I can't change this poop color to any other color (XFCE4) I could before!
[07:51] <spanglesontoast> !info esound
[07:51] <ubotu> esound: (Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 80 kB
[07:51] <phzi> paul_: download the ati linux .run file, chmod +x it, and then ./launch it
[07:52] <phzi> it'll run thru the setup process
[07:52] <adwait> thechitowncubs: umm.......maybe u could try going into non X mode from grub and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[07:52] <nickrud> if you have a card that does 'multi-open' or hardware mixing, set all sound outputs to alsa
[07:52] <adwait> *xorg
[07:52] <nickrud> otherwise, try to get them to use esound, or esd
[07:52] <phzi> I had a lot of problems with sound in ubuntu
[07:53] <kestas> how do I direct error on the console to a file?
[07:53] <phzi> but I worked out a proccess that fixes it
[07:53] <kestas> you know like 2>&1, but 2>&errorfile or something
[07:53] <nickrud> And, if it's something that cannot use esound, then search for dmix on alsa-project.org
[07:54] <phzi> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[07:54] <phzi> (if you sound card is already detected)
[07:54] <phzi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211&highlight=sounds+audigy
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> adwait, oh recovery mode
[07:54] <thechitowncubs> that sounds like a good idea
[07:54] <phzi> (if your sound card isn't detected properly)
[07:55] <phzi> anyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?
[07:55] <nickrud> or, for your particular sound card ;P
[07:55] <spanglesontoast> hmmm windows is for games in my own idea etc
[07:56] <adwait> thechitowncubs: yeah......or just select the normal option u use to boot linux and edit with command by pressing 'e' and then add  '1' at the end and continue booting
[07:56] <spanglesontoast> cedega sucks for us ati peeps
[07:56] <phzi> anyone in here using an nvidia chip with nvidia drivers?
[07:56] <bob2> lots of people are
[07:56] <phzi> well, I am wondering if someone who is actually around is
[07:56] <bob2> if you have a question about it, best to just ask
[07:56] <phzi> because I'm having issues
[07:56] <spanglesontoast> how good is cedega on nvidia?
[07:56] <phzi> I have twice
[07:57] <phzi> I installed my nvidia card (GF 6200), and installed the binary package. now, when X11 starts (I had to revert to old config), the screen is so dim I can't read it
[07:57] <phzi> monitor displays the nvidia logo as X starts, and everything is too dim to see (monitor brightness is maxed)
[07:57] <phzi> anyone seen something like that?
[07:57] <spanglesontoast> and if someone has cedega and nivida could they take a screeny?
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> sounds good thanks for the tips
[07:57] <adwait> thechitowncubs: np
[07:57] <paul_> ok how would i install a rpm using alien?
[07:57] <bob2> phzi: try asking on the user list
[07:57] <bob2> paul_: what rpm?
[07:57] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?
[07:57] <adwait> paul_: sudo alien <whtever>
[07:58] <paul_> ati gpu driver
[07:58] <phzi> ya, that's the next step, thanks bob2
[07:58] <adwait> paul_: then dpkg -i <createddebfile>
[07:58] <Gobfrey> I'm having problems stalling hugin, can anyone give me a little help?
[07:58] <bob2> phzi: if you get no love there, I think filing a bug would be appropriate
[07:58] <jtgameover> anyone know what's the equivalent of .xinitrc for gdm in ubuntu? .xsession doesn't seem to be the answer
[07:58] <bob2> paul_: the ati drivers in ubuntu don't work?
[07:58] <phzi> good plan, thanks for responding bob2
[07:58] <paul_> dpkg -i (then the file name)?
[07:58] <paul_> im running a x300
[07:59] <phzi> paul_: there is an automated install
[07:59] <phzi> on ati.com
[07:59] <adwait> paul_:  yes.......alien will create a deb file, and then u use tht filename
[07:59] <paul_> hmm all i get is the code
[07:59] <phzi> do this:
[07:59] <paul_> for the installer download
[07:59] <phzi> save it somewhere on your computer
[07:59] <adwait> paul_: with alien?
[07:59] <phzi> open a terminal (root)
[07:59] <paul_> no the installer
[07:59] <phzi> save the installer
[07:59] <jtgameover> if i wanted some programs to run on login, what file would i edit?
[07:59] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know if cairo is in the next gnome?
[08:00] <phzi> and do: chmod +x <ati_installer>
[08:00] <phzi> then ./<ati_installer>
[08:00] <adwait> jtgameover: system>preferences>sessions
[08:00] <jtgameover> adwait, do you know what file that edits?
[08:00] <phzi> make sense paul_?
[08:00] <adwait> jtgameover: .xsessions
[08:00] <paul_> the installer just opens a window with the code, no option to download
[08:01] <jtgameover> really? you sure about that?
[08:01] <phzi> what browser are you using? firefox?
[08:01] <bob2> paul_: why don't you just install the drivers that come with ubuntu?
[08:01] <phzi> right click, save as
[08:01] <adwait> jtgameover: no......i just tried and it gave me a new file...but it was something sim ilear
[08:01] <jtgameover> adwait, would the same thing work if i used openbox or another wm
[08:01] <phzi> bob2: they are slightly older, and I don't believe support his chipset
[08:01] <nickrud> thechitowncubs I'm almost afraid to skim the gnome lists, to find that it will not be in 2.12
[08:01] <signbarn> How do i make it so apt-get doesn't ask for my 5.04 install disk?
[08:01] <jtgameover> adwait what's the new file?
[08:01] <paul_> actually, im doing this as a experiment to install in a pure debian install
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> signbarn: comment out that repository
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[08:01] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <adwait> jtgameover: no idea buddy.........never used anything but gnome :)
[08:01] <TR0N> does anyone know a reason why ubuntu could crash with a kernel panic during installation?
[08:02] <Gobfrey> hugin complains that it can't find a library, but the library is there.  I think maybe my library path is screwed up.  I don't really know, I'm new to this.  I pasted some information to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:02] <signbarn> !repositories
[08:02] <jtgameover> does anyone here use openbox?
[08:02] <paul_> as i can never seem to get a gui to work in pure debian
[08:02] <phzi> paul_, you can PM me if you think I might be of help
[08:02] <phzi> kinda useless to chat in the channel
[08:02] <bob2> Gobfrey: there doesn't seem to be anything called "hugin" in ubuntu...maybe you could tell us what it is, where it's from, and givee us the past url?
[08:02] <Razor-X> jtgameover: Fluxbox is much more popular
[08:02] <phzi> I just did the ATI install yesterday
[08:03] <phzi> from the .run file
[08:03] <paul_> well its a sleepless night, and im not making much sense
[08:03] <jtgameover> Razor-X, i am switching from fluxbox to openbox
[08:03] <phzi> or that :P
[08:03] <jtgameover> trust me, i've had my fun with fluxbox
[08:03] <bob2> thechitowncubs: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2005-June/msg00016.html
[08:03] <Razor-X> jtgameover: I don't like Fluxbox too much, but it seemed easy to configure
[08:03] <TR0N> hm sorry actually it happened after installation when starting the system first.
[08:03] <paul_> phizi im saving the installer , now thanks
[08:03] <jtgameover> Razor-X, defiitely
[08:04] <jtgameover> Razor-X, i am trying to get somee programs to run when i log in to openbox though
[08:04] <phzi> alright paul_, well let me know how it works out
[08:04] <paul_> k
[08:04] <Gobfrey> bob2: hugin is a panorama stitching program.  I followed a tutorial on http://rbpark.ath.cx/articles/compile-hugin-ubuntu
[08:04] <jtgameover> Razor-X, if i edit my .xinitrc file and kill all gdm's running
[08:04] <jtgameover> and then do startx
[08:04] <jtgameover> it works
[08:04] <jtgameover> stuff runs when i log in
[08:04] <jtgameover> but when i edit my .xsession
[08:04] <Gobfrey> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/467
[08:04] <Razor-X> doesen't work?
[08:04] <jtgameover> yep
[08:04] <paul_> pain killers are kicking in, might have to go back to bed now lol
[08:05] <Razor-X> hmmmm....
[08:05] <Razor-X> try doing it through CRON
[08:05] <Razor-X> not many people use CRON anymore, but, that should be reliable
[08:05] <paul_> phizi gedit was not able to open error
[08:05] <phzi> what do you need gedit for?
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> okay that's really weard
[08:06] <egi> !info netcat
[08:06] <ubotu> netcat: (TCP/IP swiss army knife), section net, is optional. Version: 1.10-27 (hoary), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[08:06] <phzi> paul_: can I PM you?
[08:06] <paul_> yeah
[08:06] <tiglionabbit> grr
[08:06] <Razor-X> netcat is uber ;)
[08:06] <Razor-X> almost as uber as emacs XD
[08:07] <D3v> =
[08:07] <D3v> =( i just installed kubuntu but i cant get the net working?
[08:07] <Razor-X> D3v: how so?
[08:08] <dabaR> cable, interfaces has a good entry.
[08:08] <dabaR> good night
[08:08] <Razor-X> anyone have experience using pork in emacs?
[08:08] <D3v> well i didnt install it kubuntu with the net and i guess it didnt auto config it, and i dont know what im doing so i cant
[08:09] <egi> !help
[08:09] <Arkainium> What are some disk intensive operations that I can perform to test the stability of my new drive.  I've been crashing lately and want to see if my hard drive is to blame here.
[08:09] <Razor-X> D3v: what kinda net connection do you have?
[08:09] <D3v> Razor-X Cable, useing ethernet
[08:09] <D3v> using^
[08:09] <Razor-X> Arkainium: you can try compiling something huge
[08:10] <Razor-X> D3v: any router?
[08:10] <D3v> yes
[08:10] <D3v> linseys
[08:10] <Razor-X> mention that ;)
[08:10] <Razor-X> lihseys?
[08:10] <Arkainium> Razor-X, I thought compilation was more of a processor thing.
[08:10] <Razor-X> is that some cheap linksys rip-off?
[08:10] <Razor-X> Arkainium: you want to test your HDD?
[08:11] <D3v> got it with vonage, for my cable internet
[08:11] <Arkainium> ya
[08:11] <D3v> so i can have a house phone too
[08:11] <Razor-X> Arkainium: cordon off some free space, fill it with crap files, and shred em
[08:11] <Razor-X> like shred em, writing them over many times
[08:11] <Razor-X> D3v: or you could use DSL for that ;) Linksys?
[08:11] <Arkainium> hmm.. maybe compression/decompression
[08:12] <hyphenated> Arkainium: how about updatedb
[08:12] <Razor-X> Arkainium: shredding writes and rewrites to files
[08:12] <Razor-X> erasing them completely
[08:12] <D3v> had dsl but they riped me off
[08:12] <Razor-X> put it on highest security, many files
[08:12] <Arkainium> thanks for the suggestion.  i'll give them a try
[08:12] <Razor-X> D3v: $19.99 is nice, anyways Linksys? need to be sure it's not some cheap rip
[08:12] <Razor-X> updatedb isn't that HDD intensive, for me at least
[08:13] <Razor-X> I could suggest nuking, but that's if you want to give up the HDD ;)
[08:13] <nickrud> so, Razor-X , you have good experiences with linksys ;)
[08:13] <Arkainium> and updatedb is smart.. it keeps a cache so you can't do it many times.  (i think)
[08:13] <hyphenated> the kernel keeps the cache
[08:13] <hyphenated> automagically
[08:13] <Razor-X> nickrud: I use a netgear meself ;)
[08:13] <Razor-X> although, I may just convert the 486 into a firewall
[08:13] <hyphenated> anyways, I'm off.
[08:13] <D3v> well even when i would try to hook it up directly from the cable box it still wouldnt let me on the net
[08:14] <Razor-X> if only the cable connection difference wasn't so huge
[08:14] <Razor-X> D3v: why?
[08:14] <Razor-X> shouldn't it work with DHCP?
[08:14] <nickrud> Razor-X I only mention it cuz I've only used linksys, and and can alwyays validation :)
[08:14] <Razor-X> Arkainium: isn't that the whole _point_ of updatedb? a cache? ;)
[08:14] <nickrud> huh, s/alwyays/allways use/
[08:14] <Razor-X> nickrud: Linksys makes rock-solid routers
[08:15] <D3v> you would think it would but it doesnt
[08:15] <Razor-X> D3v: what did you have to configure?
[08:16] <D3v> i didnt config anything. im a noob at linux, i dont know what im doing, im just trying to learn so i can get a way from wintendo
[08:16] <Arkainium> Razor-X, hmm.. shred doesn't work with journaled filesystems.
[08:16] <Razor-X> what did you configure in Windows?
[08:16] <Razor-X> Arkainium: there must be a shredder that does
[08:16] <Razor-X> mine does ;)
[08:16] <nickrud> D3v then, experiment away :)
[08:16] <Razor-X> although mine's included with KDE
[08:16] <Gobfrey> can no-one give me a little help?
[08:16] <Razor-X> nickrud: the problem is, he doesen't know _what_ needs configuring, if I knew this, it would be ease to fix the problem
[08:17] <ubuntu> hola
[08:17] <Gobfrey> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/467
[08:17] <D3v> Razor-X nothing i edit movies and make them, thats it
[08:17] <Arkainium> Razor-X, oh, I better search apt then
[08:17] <Razor-X> D3v: actual encoding/transcoding? or just making movies?
[08:17] <ubuntu> so how are alll of you tonite
[08:17] <Razor-X> ubuntu: judge for yourself ;)
[08:17] <aru> I'm sexy+
[08:18] <Razor-X> aru: ok then
[08:18] <aru> heh
[08:18] <vladuz976> hey when i install window managers with apt-get, do i still need to write a .desktop file or does it automatically put it in the gdm?
[08:18] <nickrud> Razor-X D3v I've been in the position of not being sure about what to configure so many times, I'm no longer afraid of experimentation
[08:18] <Razor-X> vladuz976: no harm in checking ;)
[08:18] <aru> someone asked, I had to reply
[08:18] <Razor-X> nickrud: neither am I
[08:18] <nickrud> lol
[08:18] <Razor-X> aru: I wonder how you are when you're not sexy ;)
[08:18] <aru> wouldn't know :)
[08:19] <D3v> encoding/transcoding. etc
[08:19] <Razor-X> I have 12677 lines of logs here
[08:19] <Razor-X> D3v: you ever used AVISynth?
[08:19] <Razor-X> and I have more questions for you ;)
[08:19] <vladuz976> Razor-X: where are they again? in /usr/share something?
[08:19] <aru> hey, all my stuff is working almost perfect
[08:19] <Razor-X> what codecs do you suggest for encoding a low-variety of colors, ok movement, with static subtitles?
[08:19] <sbatten2> I'm having a screen resolution problem
[08:20] <D3v> nickrud when i experiment i destroy everything
[08:20] <Razor-X> vladuz976: locate ;)
[08:20] <Razor-X> !resolution
[08:20] <sbatten2> I can only run it seems at 640x480
[08:20] <ubotu> [resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:20] <Razor-X> there you are
[08:20] <Razor-X> ;)
[08:20] <nickrud> D3w it's only software
[08:20] <delltony> where can i get the lame-dev files for ubuntu please?
[08:20] <D3v> AVISynth is good
[08:20] <Razor-X> D3v: I grew real guts formatting my old machine 5 times in a row
[08:20] <Razor-X> D3v: I swear by it
[08:20] <Razor-X> Linux _really_ needs an AVISynth port
[08:21] <D3v> yes it does
[08:21] <D3v> i used gentoo linux for a whole but it broke so then i couldnt reinstall it
[08:21] <delltony> D3v: just curious you know anything about making dvds to xvid?
[08:21] <D3v> while^
[08:22] <Razor-X> delltony: encoding skill requires much more than that, and if he knows AVISynth, i'm assuming yes ;)
[08:22] <delltony> thats why i asked
[08:22] <D3v> delltony lol yeah
[08:22] <delltony> cause i assumed the same
[08:22] <Razor-X> heh
[08:22] <D3v> xvid divx
[08:22] <D3v> shizix
[08:22] <Razor-X> the only non-fun part about encoding is the actual time it takes ;)
[08:22] <delltony> my question is this though how in the hell did you get libmp3 to compile into mplayer or how did you install transcode
[08:22] <nickrud> D3v gentoo is lfs redux (for old schoolers). Like I said, it's only software. Install, experiment, and get the sys you want
[08:23] <Razor-X> like when you set a 3 hour movie to reencode, that takes a while
[08:24] <sbatten2> ok, read through that link, but still some troubles
[08:24] <delltony> i can't get transcode to install on ubuntu for nothinig i have went thru the depends. and i can't seem to find lame-dev anywhere except rarewares.org
[08:24] <Madpilot> sbatten2: if you start Hoary with your screen turned off, it'll default to 640x480. it's a dumb bug, but there you go...
[08:24] <sbatten2> I know the problem is that I don't have hsync and vsync
[08:25] <D3v> delltony.. its complicated and annoying but this movie editor i know made this progam that does it for you so you dont have to match everything up manually
[08:25] <sbatten2> on the back of the monitor it says 50-60hz which I assume is vrefresh
[08:25] <Razor-X> delltony: i'm having the same problem
[08:25] <sbatten2> but I cannot find an hrefresh anywhere online
[08:25] <delltony> yeah i have been searching for days
[08:25] <Razor-X> i've been noticing the latest builds have been coming real real flaky
[08:26] <Razor-X> D3v: i'm surprised howlittle encoders know about their OSs, since encoding is the closest thing to programming, skill-set-wise
[08:26] <Razor-X> *how little
[08:29] <D3v> anywho
[08:29] <Razor-X> back
[08:29] <Razor-X> D3v: what did you have to do in Windows to get it to work?
[08:29] <Razor-X> (or mac, i'm assuming you came from Windows)
[08:29] <gotonpo> anyone know an easy way to convert .wmvs to .mpgs?
[08:30] <Mestapheles> hey guys, I just upgraded my warty on reiser to hoary.  Did warty use reiser3?  I assume hoary uses reiser4.
[08:31] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: I don't think it changes the FS type, I may be wrong
[08:31] <D3v> Razor-X get what to work>
[08:31] <Razor-X> how is Rieser?
[08:31] <Razor-X> D3v: the internet
[08:32] <D3v> didnt have to do anything.
[08:32] <Mestapheles> yeah, I see a message in mail that tels me that I mights have to manually convert from reiserfs3 to 4.  Presumably hoary uses reiser4.  The thing is I don't know if warty used 3.
[08:32] <D3v> im on windows now
[08:32] <Razor-X> D3v: you know the IP of the router?
[08:33] <nickrud> Mestapheles if you did a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary, the underlying fs will not change.
[08:33] <Mestapheles> well it says if you use the wrong reiser utility you can hose your system
[08:33] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: you can check using any good partiton manager
[08:33] <Mestapheles> fdisk -l calls them all linux
[08:33] <paul_> how do i change my screen resolution when i only have one option 640X400?
[08:34] <paul_> 640x480
[08:34] <Razor-X> !resolution
[08:34] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:34] <Razor-X> there you go, paul_
[08:34] <paul_> there i go what
[08:35] <paul_> is that a command?
[08:35] <Razor-X> paul_: you saw the website?
[08:35] <gotonpo> i <3 ubuntu.
[08:36] <D3v> i dont no the IP
[08:36] <D3v> know^
[08:36] <Mestapheles> how to change fonts manually might more in order for me
[08:36] <Razor-X> D3v: try typing in "<IP_ADDRESS>" in a web browser
[08:37] <Razor-X> Mestapheles: in the GUI, or terminal?
[08:38] <Mestapheles> fdisk is console app
[08:38] <Razor-X> fdisk is nasty!
[08:38] <Razor-X> cfdisk
[08:38] <D3v> its http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ for are router but my brother through the paswrd on it and i dont know it,
[08:38] <nickrud> the best place to drop truetype fonts for a multiuser system is /usr/local/fonts; for a single user, ~/.fonts
[08:38] <absinthe_> anyone know any good SPC players for linux? Any Beep plugins?
[08:39] <Razor-X> D3v: headlock your brother and tell him to make you sysadmin ;)
[08:39] <nickrud> dhu
[08:39] <D3v> plus he uses linux so i know its not the router
[08:39] <D3v> lol
[08:39] <nickrud> /usr/local/share/fonts
[08:39] <Razor-X> ask him
[08:40] <D3v> i just installed kubuntu with no internet so it never auto configed it, thats my problem
[08:40] <D3v> i nedd help to config it
[08:40] <D3v> its not reading my nic or anything
[08:41] <Razor-X> D3v: you can reinstall, but I don't think that's the problem
[08:41] <D3v> probably not
[08:41] <Razor-X> or, maybe your brother did something to restrict the DHCP signal
[08:42] <renick> #ardour
[08:42] <D3v> then i wouldnt be on the computer im on now
[08:42] <Razor-X> D3v: he password protected it, or something
[08:42] <D3v> and if he did i'd go beat his little a@@
[08:42] <Razor-X> do it ;)
[08:42] <Razor-X> at least, get him to set it up, since he should know his own config
[08:43] <Razor-X> hondje: hey
[08:43] <hondje> Howdy
[08:43] <D3v> its tempting
[08:43] <ilan_> Hi, I have a question.
[08:44] <hondje> How's it going, Razor-X ?
[08:44] <Razor-X> hondje: good ;)
[08:44] <ilan_> how can I "Uninstall" a program that I compiled?
[08:44] <Razor-X> i've gone full into the Emacs Way (TM)
[08:44] <ilan_> obviously apt-get remove dosent work
[08:44] <Razor-X> ilan_: make clean
[08:45] <ilan_> ohh ok
[08:45] <ilan_> that sound logic.
[08:45] <nickrud> ilan_ if you're lucky, and have a competent author, make uninstall
[08:45] <ilan_> I'll try
[08:45] <madmavric> yikes i totally hosed ubuntu by installing ati drivers
[08:45] <D3v> it was emerge -C on gentoo un uninstall a compiled program but i dont know ubuntu yet =(
[08:45] <Razor-X> I totally ditched screen and BitchX and every other non-emacs thing I had ;)
[08:45] <hondje> Razor-X: good deal :)
[08:45] <hondje> just don't start sounding like ESR :)
[08:45] <Razor-X> D3v: apt-get remove
[08:45] <Panzerboy> lol
[08:46] <madmavric> i bet ive reinstalled ubuntu 10 times in the last three weeks
[08:46] <Razor-X> madmavric: ;)
[08:46] <Razor-X> hondje: heh
[08:46] <Razor-X> the only thing I don't like is emms
[08:46] <madmavric> ill never get to the point where i can install pure debian at this rate lol
[08:46] <Razor-X> it's too lacklustered, at the moment
[08:46] <nickrud> *vIRTYALLY iNTELLIGENT vICTORY ;0
[08:47] <Panzerboy> madmavric: but why did you install ubuntu so many times?
[08:47] <madmavric> cuz i keep fucking it up
[08:47] <madmavric> lol
[08:47] <Panzerboy> cool
[08:47] <Panzerboy> keep up the good work :P
[08:47] <D3v> man this really sucks
[08:47] <ilan_> Razor-X, what if I deleted the folder of the program?  Ubuntu/Linux seems to have fairly intelligent restore/repair functions...
[08:48] <D3v> no net =(
[08:48] <Na_Kun> HAL fails. I'm trying to install the drivers for my HP 2175, but it doesn't work as USB (third) which it's on (device manager).. or any really. Help please?
[08:48] <Razor-X> Madpilot: recompiling your kernel? ;)
[08:48] <nickrud> madmavric keep doing the install, you'll have the 'ha ha' moment
[08:49] <D3v> sit0 unknown hardware? whats that mean
[08:49] <D3v> not reading my nic?
[08:49] <ilan_> ohh, never mind, I just configured it again.
[08:50] <ilan_> by the way, does anyone knows a good program for ripping cd's?
[08:50] <Razor-X> be back in a while
[08:50] <nickrud> ilan_ dd /dev/cdrom <a.name.iso>
[08:50] <Na_Kun> Should I re-install? It worked great the first time, but I had to kill it then.
[08:50] <nickrud> hm, I'll have to rewrite that
[08:51] <Na_Kun> 5.04 really doesn't like my machine.
[08:51] <nickrud> ilan_ dd if=/dev/cdrom of-<a.name.iso>
[08:51] <ilan_> nickrud, I meant music cd to mp3
[08:52] <nickrud> ilan_ I use grip for that
[08:52] <ilan_> ok, I'll look for it, thanks.
[08:52] <D3v> gosh any body else wanna try and help me
[08:52] <Na_Kun> What, D3v?
[08:54] <ssgt2002> does anyone know the current iso md5sum for x86 install
[08:54] <Madpilot> Razor-X: yeah, there's that. you can't help some problems...
[08:55] <indigo_> i just installed the base system, rebooted, was watching everything else install, then fell asleep. I woke and i was at the gdm login screen. When was my root password set?
[08:56] <indigo_> actually....i don't really care when; i just want to know what it is.
[08:56] <HrdwrBoB> indigo_: it wasn't
[08:56] <Agrajag> it was not
[08:56] <Madpilot> ssgt2002: md5sum info should be w/ whichever mirror you got the iso from?
[08:56] <Razor-X> !sudo
[08:56] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:56] <Razor-X> there you are
[08:56] <Na_Kun> You can create a root user :/
[08:56] <hondje> Is there any mobo tests like there's memtest86 for ram, smartctl for hdds, etc?
[08:56] <nickrud> I do hate typos
[08:57] <Razor-X> hondje: I believe so, google should turn up what you're looking for ;)
[08:57] <indigo_> my, this reminds me of os x
[08:57] <nickrud> indigo_ you mean, pretty :)
[08:57] <indigo_> no...the sudo thing
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> how do I get quicktime
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> ?
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> or play quicktime files
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: I think w32codecs includes it
[08:58] <indigo_> you could have said "if you want root, first you have to start the netinfo manager..." and i would have believed you
[08:58] <spanglesontoast> ah
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> spanglesontoast: try xine-ui
[08:58] <Mafi> is there any way to listen to aac files on beep media player or xmms?
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: I believe you need to install gstreamer0.8-faad
[08:59] <tiglionabbit> !info gstreamer0.8-faad
[08:59] <nickrud> what is the new backports link again? I have the w32codecs from marillat (commented out currently, so no comments)
[08:59] <Razor-X> indigo_: shame on you, you fell asleep during the Ubutnu install?
[08:59] <Razor-X> I was petrified with excitement ;0
[08:59] <Razor-X> *;)
[08:59] <Mafi> tiglionabbit, but does that file gstreamer give support for xmms?
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: it's in hoary extras, on a backports mirror
[09:00] <Razor-X> (petrified yes, because if my dad caught me.......)
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> Mafi: uh..  don't know for sure, but I think so
[09:00] <jtan325> who knows bash shell scripting a little bit?
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[09:00] <ubotu> [backports]  at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I do
[09:00] <Razor-X> jtan325: there are tons of good tutorials out there
[09:00] <tiglionabbit> jtan325: I bet Razor-X knows a ton though
[09:00] <Madpilot> Razor-X: you thought your dad wouldn't notce that Windows had vanished?
[09:00] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: ;)
[09:00] <Mafi> tiglionabbit, I think that the gstreamer add support for the music player in gnome
[09:00] <nickrud> Mafi xmms has it's own mp3 support
[09:00] <jtan325> Razor-X, tiglionabbit, i am googling but sometimes google gets confused
[09:01] <Razor-X> Madpilot: no, I thought he may notice it's Linux, and then cut my head off ;)
[09:01] <jtan325> i want to know what the different options to the if statement in bash shell scripts can mean
[09:01] <jtan325> -x and -r specifically
[09:01] <nickrud> tiglionabbit thanks
[09:01] <Mafi> nickrud, I have all my ipod collection in aac. i need to add aac support to beep media player or to xmms
[09:01] <jtan325> or if there is a reference card
[09:01] <Razor-X> !vlc
[09:01] <ubotu> Razor-X: Wish i knew
[09:01] <jtan325> that would be awesome
[09:01] <Razor-X> eh!!!
[09:01] <Razor-X> !info vlc
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: give it one
[09:02] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[09:02] <Razor-X> vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[09:02] <nickrud> Mafi off the cuff, I think gstreamer (used by rhythmbox) has faac support. I may be wrong, since I dont use an ipod.
[09:02] <davidandkaz> hi guys
[09:02] <Razor-X> ubotu vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formatsbb and excellent streaming support
[09:02] <ubotu> Razor-X: okay
[09:02] <davidandkaz> Any good software for linux?
[09:02] <Mafi> nickrud, thatks. you migth be rigth
[09:02] <jtan325> Razor-X, do you know what the different options to "if statements" in bash mean?
[09:02] <Razor-X> jtan325: embarrassingly, no
[09:03] <absinthe_> Any way to view a pie graph of hard drive space/free space ala windows?
[09:03] <Razor-X> I don't know Perl, Python, or BASH Scripting well enough to profess about them
[09:03] <Razor-X> and that's what I have left to learn for sysadminship
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> say, how do I fastforward in xine-ui?
[09:03] <llllllllllllllll> Dev<~~~~~~
[09:03] <llllllllllllllll> still need help
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> oh, up/down
[09:04] <Hikaru79> Does anyone here know what's up with the "Ubuntu Java Project," if those repos are supposed to still be up?
[09:04] <Razor-X> and some work with my emacs regular expressions
[09:04] <davidandkaz> Any good free web development software for linux?
[09:04] <Razor-X> Hikaru79: i've seen you before, Go person
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: you can get java using the method in my guide
[09:04] <ssgt2002> try nvu
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[09:04] <ubotu> well, newusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[09:04] <Razor-X> or... am I wrong?
[09:04] <Razor-X> ;)
[09:04] <jtan325> davidandkaz, check out nvu and bluefish
[09:04] <Hikaru79> =) Hey, Razor-X !
[09:04] <Hikaru79> Nope, I remember you.
[09:04] <Razor-X> heh, good
[09:04] <llllllllllllllll> still cant get my internet to work =(
[09:04] <Razor-X> I had to go, and missed your PM
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: you need to add the hoary-extras backports mirror
[09:04] <Razor-X> and yeah, months later, we meet again XD
[09:05] <Hikaru79> tiglionabbit, I know. The thing is, java project doesn't only have the j2se, it's got tons of neat java libraries, etc.
[09:05] <davidandkaz> ok, great
[09:05] <Razor-X> Hikaru79: I can google you up some confirmation of that
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> Hikaru79: it mentions j2sdk1.5 too
[09:05] <ssgt2002> davidandkaz, try nvu it is a nice replacement for dreamweaever on linux
[09:05] <Hikaru79> tiglionabbit, I'm not just talking about the sdk though. The Java project has things like JDBC drivers, JBoss, etc. Java-related apps and third-party libraries, not just development kits.
[09:05] <khabal> anyone know how to make a keylogger?
[09:06] <ssgt2002> it is supported by linspire
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> oh
[09:06] <llllllllllllllll> Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux ...
[09:06] <Hikaru79> Which is why I think it's a neat idea, but on the front page the guy says server costs are on the rise and it was posted a month ago
[09:06] <davidandkaz> I love dreamweaver....sounds good
[09:07] <davidandkaz> Anyone know why linspire is charging money for thier OS?
[09:07] <ssgt2002> does not support frames though check website
[09:07] <Agrajag> because they can
[09:07] <Sn0wMan>
[09:07] <redtech> !alternative
[09:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[09:07] <spanglesontoast> what's the best audio editing program apart from audacity?
[09:07] <ssgt2002> linspire is a nice os for people who just want linux to work
[09:08] <nickrud_> I do hate dialup
[09:08] <jtgameover> oh man i am awesome
[09:08] <jtgameover> tiglionabbit, remember that stuff i was trying to ask about xsession?
[09:08] <tiglionabbit> jtgameover: yeah, what about it?
[09:08] <jtgameover> well i never figured that out, but i did come up with a workaround for openbox
[09:09] <jtgameover> modeled after fluxbox
[09:09] <davidandkaz> As far as free goes, is ubuntu the most advanced "free" linux?
[09:09] <jtgameover> basically i put a wrapper script, "startopenbox"
[09:09] <jtgameover> which looks for a user's openbox-startup file if it exists
[09:09] <ssgt2002> dont know have not installed yet
[09:09] <nickrud_> davidandkaz no, that would be debian
[09:09] <jtgameover> and executes that if so
[09:09] <ssgt2002> debian is great
[09:09] <ssgt2002> if you have time
[09:10] <jtgameover> and this startopenbox is what gets executed when i try to login with openbox
[09:10] <jtgameover> instead of just plain ol' openbox
[09:10] <jtgameover> so yeah
[09:10] <dev> i need help
[09:10] <davidandkaz> debian?
[09:10] <davidandkaz> The most advanced?
[09:10] <ssgt2002> yes try it youll like it
[09:11] <dev> debains alright
[09:11] <dev> it pissed me off tho
[09:11] <redtech> alternative to movie maker?
[09:11] <ssgt2002> dev what do need help with
[09:12] <dev> well i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet, i use cable and i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu machine
[09:14] <dev> the net never worked on my kubuntu machine I just got done installing it a couple of hours ago
[09:14] <ssgt2002> windows internet works though right
[09:15] <dev> yeah im on it right now
[09:15] <ssgt2002> dhcp or static ip
[09:15] <dev> i guess dhcp
[09:16] <Hikaru79> I'm getting mixed reports.  :D
[09:18] <hondje> I can't imagine the java package causing problems though
[09:18] <nickrud_>  Hikaru79 while inside the directory you downloaded the jdk to, sudo apt-get install java-package && fakeroot make-jpkg jdk<tab>, sudo then dpkg -i sun<tab>
[09:18] <IceDC571> cyphase: hi
[09:18] <dev> any of you guys came in no anything about configuring the net on kubuntu
[09:18] <Xodus> i tried sudo get jaca
[09:18] <Xodus> didnt work
[09:18] <Hikaru79> nickrud, I know, I've used Debian. I was hoping for a cleaner way though.
[09:18] <IceDC571> well there is #kubuntu
[09:18] <nickrud_> Hikaru79 there is no cleaner way :)
[09:19] <hondje> That's pretty much what they probably did to make the one you get from backports
[09:19] <hondje> :)
[09:19] <Xodus> but there can be a clearer way :D
[09:19] <Hikaru79> nickrud, well, there's Ubuntu backports, and there *would* have been the Ubuntu Java Project if it hadn't been over-trafficed
[09:19] <nickrud_> clearer, yes :)
[09:19] <hondje> overtrafficed?
[09:19] <Hikaru79> Yeah
[09:19] <hondje> Define, sir :)
[09:19] <Hikaru79> Apparently the guy's repository was transfering like 5GB a day
[09:19] <hondje> ah
[09:19] <nickrud_> I've been against backports for a while, but I've seen people I trust ok it, so now ...
[09:20] <IceDC571> how could you be against backports?
[09:20] <dev> darn it
[09:20] <dev> someone help me
[09:20] <hondje> because they (at least used to) ignore deps when building debs, among other things
[09:20] <nickrud_> IceDC571 because, I want a system that will dist-upgrade to breezy cleanly
[09:20] <Hikaru79> dev, what's wrong?
[09:20] <dev> before i nija kick my pc out the window
[09:21] <hondje> they were just using deb-src to build pkgs
[09:21] <IceDC571> well Breezy isnt clean in the first place
[09:21] <hondje> Might be different now, that particular guide isn't around anymore afaik
[09:21] <Mestapheles> hey all,
[09:21] <nickrud_> IceDC571 I'm talking about the October Breezy, not breezy today
[09:21] <dev> Hikaru79 i just installed kubuntu and i have no internet
[09:21] <Hikaru79> dev, router or no?
[09:22] <Xodus> dev: i tried that but ubuntu, brought me back to linux ;D
[09:22] <Xodus> so dont kick an ubuntu pc
[09:22] <Hikaru79> dev, do you have a router or not?
[09:22] <Mestapheles> does ubuntu support server upgrades?  I just upgraded from hoarty to hoary with a minimal install with X and I have a wack of deps being held back
[09:22] <Mestapheles> I've upgraded many times before on debian
[09:22] <dev> Hikaru79   i have a router fowarding the internet to my room to a dlink hub and the hub sharing the net to my widowns and soon to be kubuntu
[09:23] <IceDC571> get a switch instead of a hub... ouch
[09:23] <Hikaru79> In that case, dev, have you tried dhclient?
[09:23] <Hikaru79> Just type that in the command line: dhclient
[09:23] <dev> sorry SWITCH
[09:23] <dev> is not a hub
[09:23] <Hikaru79> The router's the important part, hubs don't do DHCP so it doesn't matter.
[09:24] <Hikaru79> If you have a router, there's a good chance you need to do dhclient
[09:24] <nickrud_> Mestapheles I've run nothing but debian unstalbe since May 19, 2001, until I switched to ubuntu. I have found that I do like stable systems.
[09:25] <Mestapheles> debian unstable is stsable according to distro's standards
[09:25] <nickrud_> keeping logs can be fun :)
[09:25] <dev> Hikaru79 yes does a bunch of DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 but it doesnt get anything saysno working leases in prsistent database- sleeping at the end of that
[09:26] <Mestapheles> you got to figure that they keep things back because a certain platform may have some hickups, not because the software necessarily is broken
[09:26] <Hikaru79> Hmm
[09:26] <Hikaru79> Do "ifconfig eth0"
[09:26] <Hikaru79> And paste output
[09:26] <Hikaru79> In #flood if its too long
[09:26] <dev> ok
[09:26] <Mestapheles> The only issue I had with debian is sane only worked for me as root
[09:27] <Mestapheles> and a accel freeze problem, but ubuntu had it too, and I gather reporting it did something to get it fixed
[09:27] <Hikaru79> Is the multiverse repository still deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse or is there a "hoary multiverse" ?
[09:28] <jasoncohen> Hikaru79, huh? hoary has a main restricted multiverse and universe just as warty does
[09:28] <nickrud_> I've always had one issue or another, but, usually it was my problem.
[09:29] <Hikaru79> So "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse" exists?
[09:29] <TR0N> i have problems getting ubuntu running. can someone help me in query?
[09:30] <Mestapheles> right now with hoary, I've had several problems.  Periodic and momentary freezes on my ppc box (x86 is fine), and a multiseat install problem on one of them.
[09:30] <Razor-X> hmmm...
[09:30] <Mestapheles> do tell, and someone might pitch in
[09:30] <Razor-X> nevermind
[09:30] <Mestapheles> tron
[09:31] <jasoncohen> TR0N, ask here
[09:31] <nickrud_> Hikaru79, the 'beter orgainzed' vrsion of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ExampleConffiles is usefull
[09:31] <TR0N> first of all during setting up sth with xorg the installation process got stuck (computer didn't react to any input
[09:32] <TR0N> i freshly installed the os - so i barely had the chance to do smth wrong on my own...
[09:32] <ssgt2002> how long is install supposed to take
[09:34] <nickrud_> ssgt2002 less than an hour, for sure
[09:34] <TR0N> i don't know how long it's supposed to be installing... but the website said smth like 20 minutes for a usual system?
[09:34] <jasoncohen> TR0N, setting up SSH with xorg? you mean after the install was finished
[09:34] <jasoncohen> ubuntu only installs openssh-client by default
[09:34] <nickrud_> I can imagine a very slow machine
[09:35] <jcoxon> morning all
[09:35] <TR0N> i burned the install cd and tried to install ubuntu. i only answered all the usual configuration dialogs about keyboard, langauage, network and so on...
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> I need some help, how do i coonfigure my dial up connection with ubuntu?
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> I have a netscape accout?
[09:35] <IceGuest_5_> do i need to switch ISPS?
[09:36] <TR0N> the system booted but on the first start it unpacks several programs.
[09:36] <IceDC571> um... someone shoot me, i might switch to fedora
[09:36] <nickrud_> IceDC571 use pppconfig, and use your usual phone number, username, and password. It should work.
[09:36] <TR0N> so there it crashed.
[09:36] <ilan_> Which run level I need to switch to, for installing nvidia drivers?
[09:36] <IceDC571> nickrud_: wrong person, eh?
[09:36] <IceGuest_5_> but it wont even detect my modem!..
[09:37] <nickrud_> IceDC571 heh, that was for IceGuest_5_
[09:37] <IceDC571> hey we have two Ice's in here! :)
[09:37] <IceGuest_5_> lol
[09:37] <ilan_> again, how to exit X Windows, for being able to install nvidia drivers?
[09:37] <MForster> join #ubuntu
[09:37] <TR0N> the only thing that works properly is the rescue-kernel
[09:38] <IceDC571> MForster: we are in #ubuntu..
[09:38] <IceDC571> lol
[09:38] <Tsukasa199> ilan_, how about killall gdm?
[09:38] <dev> welp i dont know why i can't get internet on kubuntu
[09:38] <IceGuest_5_> It wont even detect my modem..
[09:38] <dev> must been a retarted install or something
[09:38] <Madpilot> does anyone know if Nautilus will get better in breezy? Right now the file move system is worse than Win98, which ought to embarass some ppl...
[09:38] <IceGuest_5_> will i need to get a new modem?
[09:38] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, probably not, just some instructions :)
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  worse in what way? this is the first id ever heard of any problems with it
[09:39] <IceGuest_5_> instructions?
[09:39] <ssgt2002> what is ubuntu based on
[09:39] <nickrud_> IceGuest_5_ if you have a winmodem, some instructions :)
[09:39] <IceDC571> ssgt2002: Debian
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> MForster: what do you mean, like how you can't use root with it?
[09:39] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, what kind of modem do you use?
[09:39] <ssgt2002> yeah i like it already
[09:39] <MForster> Did i say anything?
[09:39] <IceDC571> MForster: you said join #ubuntu
[09:40] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: overwriting existing files. Win98 will give file size, date, etc for both, plus overwrite/skip options. Naut just asks if you want to overwrite or skip
[09:40] <MForster> sorry. tpy
[09:40] <IceDC571> and i said i like ice cream
[09:40] <MForster> didn't want to :)
[09:40] <IceGuest_5_> Im not for sure, but i can see it in the device manager thing but it wont auto detect.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  windows also likes to ask other lame things then rants :P use mc for a file manager! like real men.
[09:40] <Krypt|c> Anyone had issues where the default gateway keeps defaulting to ath0 from eth0?  Rather annoying :)
[09:40] <ssgt2002> dr_willis graphical is better
[09:40] <IceDC571> dont use a file manager, use the terminal
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> ssgt2002,  Blasphmy!
[09:41] <nickrud_> IceGuest_5_ I can't really help with modern modems, I use an old serial type
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:41] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis: I avoid CLI when possible...
[09:41] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: you mean in network-admin?    I don't touch it anymore
[09:41] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : that's about the only place I seem to be able to fix it.
[09:41] <TR0N> after rebooting i got a Segmentation fault error in grep --quiet on-line "${FN}/state"
[09:41] <nickrud_> Madpilot a man after my own heart ;)
[09:41] <Madpilot> ... and this is one (small) area where Win really does do it better. Even back w/ Win98..
[09:41] <tiglionabbit> I hear in breezy they're going to make a much better network manager
[09:41] <Tsukasa199> Madpilot, why do you avoid it?
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit: ifdown eth0/ifup eth0 does nothin
[09:42] <TR0N> and the last line i got was <7>eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: really?  they work for me
[09:42] <Madpilot> Tsukasa199: because it's easier to see where I can screw up w/ GUI... :)
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : heck, I even keep disabling ath0 in network-admin with no love.  It re-activates for some reason
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: gotta use sudo, and have the package installed
[09:42] <Tsukasa199> hehe
[09:42] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : heh, yeah.  I do it as root.
[09:42] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: /etc/network/interfaces
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: remove all the lines that have the word "auto" in them, or comment them out.  Then it wont do things automatically anymore
[09:43] <tiglionabbit> Krypt|c: except auto lo, leave that one
[09:43] <IceGuest_5_> i use a ESS E556t-PI Date Fax Modem
[09:43] <Krypt|c> tiglionabbit : the only auto in there is for eth0
[09:43] <IceGuest_5_> well thats what it says in device manager
[09:44] <IceDC571> you know how sudo can be bad?
[09:44] <IceDC571> say my friend uses a command with sudo
[09:44] <TR0N> well... i'll try to ask again later...
[09:44] <IceDC571> i go on his computer and type in sudo rm -rf /*
[09:44] <jcoxon> IceDC571, google it with the word linux
[09:44] <nickrud_> IceDC571 and, do you know his password?
[09:45] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, does the modem get listed under System -> System administration -> network?
[09:45] <tiglionabbit> sudo stays active for 15 minutes
[09:45] <IceDC571> nah, he already used sudo 10 minutes before i got to the computer
[09:45] <Tsukasa199> IceGuest_5_, as "Modem Connection"
[09:45] <nickrud_> tiglionabbit :)
[09:45] <Madpilot> is "sudo rm -rf /*" the equivilent of "format C:/*.*" in DOS? :)
[09:46] <ssgt2002> haha
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> Madpilot: it's the equivalent of "DELETE EVERYTHING"
[09:46] <nickrud_> */tilt*?
[09:46] <IceDC571> more like format C:\*.* /q /y
[09:46] <IceGuest_5_> one second i have to run up and down the stairs lol
[09:46] <Krypt|c> or deltree :)
[09:46] <IceDC571> isnt deltree for DOS only?
[09:46] <Tsukasa199> nope
[09:47] <Madpilot> OK, thought so... one to avoid, then. Or sic on the irritating... :)
[09:47] <nickrud_> I'm sure someone wrote a linux equiv sometime
[09:47] <Krypt|c> bbiab
[09:48] <nickrud_> just never give rm  the -f option, it'll save you a few times
[09:48] <IceDC571> i always use the force option :)
[09:48] <IceDC571> i dont know why
[09:48] <nickrud_> me too, it's reflex
[09:48] <nickrud_> do as I say, not as I do :)
[09:49] <Madpilot> -f = force = just do it, don't ask if I'm really sure? ;)
[09:49] <nickrud_> yup
[09:49] <IceDC571> omg
[09:49] <IceDC571> ask if you're sure, thats a windows thing
[09:49] <IceDC571> linux just asks yes or no
[09:49] <nickrud_> rm -i
[09:50] <nickrud_> something I've never used
[09:50] <IceDC571> what's i?
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> interactive
[09:50] <nickrud_> interactive
[09:50] <tiglionabbit> "Are you sure you want to delete"
[09:50] <phanter> hello, how can i change the application that is opening a file when double clicking a file (in gnome)
[09:51] <IceDC571> have you noticed everyone does tar ____ in a different combination?
[09:51] <IceDC571> i always use tar xvzf
[09:51] <TokenBad> is there a way to take and get a idea of how much space on a drive a set dir on that drive is taking up?
[09:51] <tiglionabbit> actually, it says "rm: remove this type of file `thefilename'?
[09:51] <Tsukasa199> phanter, right click on file -> properties -> open with
[09:51] <nickrud_> phanter right click the file, go to properties, then open with