[10:33] <eightbitbubsy> hi. I'm making a windowed program with SDL2, and I need to use the binding ALT+F4, but it's reserved and generates a sigterm. Is there any way in C that I can talk to the API (probably GTK or something?) and prevent ALT+F4 from triggering any event?
[10:33] <eightbitbubsy> I know SDL2 has a hint setting for this, but it's for Windows only.
[10:34] <eightbitbubsy> (don't ask why I need to use ALT+F4, I have a legit reason)
[13:07] <kalikiana> eightbitbubsy: It's technically a binding in the window manager, not the application. So you'd have to prevent the window from being closed and special-case closing it with hotkey that you implement.
[13:08] <eightbitbubsy> yeah, I figured it out earlier
[16:23] <kalikiana> zsombi: Wanna review these? https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/uitk2/pull/4
[16:37] <zsombi> kalikiana: sure :)
[16:40] <zsombi> kalikiana: hmm, travis failed


[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <nigelb> Hey dholbach!
[07:39] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:59] <nigelb> dholbach: How're you doing? Good weekend?
[07:59] <dholbach> yep, very good
[07:59] <dholbach> how about yourself?
[08:00] <nigelb> Not bad. I was traveling all day yesterday.
[08:00] <dholbach> from where to where?
[08:00] <nigelb> Bangalore to London. In Cambridge at the moment :)
[08:02] <dholbach> cool
[08:32] <dholbach> dpm, got time for a quick hangout?
[08:33] <dpm> dholbach, sure
[08:34] <dholbach> great
[08:34] <dholbach> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b1d6e8f2296198df5fe8f7d1f120cec3c261c00a?hl=de
[11:13] <smartboyhw> dholbach, heyas!
[13:23] <cjohnston_> mornin all
[15:00] <jono> dpm, hey
[15:00] <jono> all set?
[15:00] <dpm> jono, yep, joining
[15:01] <popey> \o/ broke the wiki
[15:03] <JoseeAntonioR> popey, what did I tell you after you pressed all the buttons on the elevator?
[15:04] <popey> :D I didn't press _all_ of them
[15:04] <popey> only the ones in the direction they were going
[15:04] <JoseeAntonioR> actually... not, but anyways
[15:39] <jcastro> nautilus just segfaulting for anyone else in saucy?
[15:40] <smartboyhw> jcastro, how did you make it segfault? Not here.
[15:45] <jcastro> just browsing folders
[15:46] <smartboyhw> jcastro, not here.
[16:01] <jono> jcastro, dpm all set?
[16:01] <jcastro> ya
[16:35] <dholbach> bye
[17:04] <bkerensa> jono / mhall119 : Upboat http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1hvgzx/ubuntu_at_oscon/
[17:04] <bkerensa> jcastro: ^
[17:06] <jcastro> submit to discourse too please!
[17:08] <mhall119> bkerensa: upvoted
[17:59] <jono> bkerensa, cool
[18:05] <popey> mhall119: seen the mail from Valerio?
[18:10] <mhall119> popey: which one is that?
[18:13] <popey> mhall119: Subj: WIP - concept design
[18:14] <mhall119> ah, yes
[18:15]  * popey replies a bit
[20:59] <jono> mhall119, all set?
[21:01] <mhall119> jono: yup
[21:01] <jono> mhall119, I am there


[08:04] <deanman> Hi, i would like to make a minor customization on the gui for a demo presentaiton. In detail, i would like to make a small border on the top frame. Any tips ?
[09:23] <urulama_> hi, deanman
[09:24] <urulama> deanman: we don't really encourage to change the UI, as it's been thoroughly user tested and design carefully considered to be as it is
[09:24] <urulama> deanman: may i ask what that border would gain you?
[09:26] <deanman> it's some plain "beautifying" for demo purposes only
[09:27] <urulama> deanman: and you need the gui to run in a real model? or just build it and run it in sanbox mode, no real models involved?
[09:27] <urulama> asking as that has implications that you'll also have to build the gui and put it in a charm and deploy it
[09:32] <deanman> urulama, initially we simply modified a bit the css on a deployed gui charm, then we started considering whether we can tweak it even more and clone the code
[09:34] <deanman> It was a bit difficult to dig into this framework you are using, so that's why thought asking here, maybe some hints since we simply want a simple dib with a background color on top menu bar.
[09:36] <deanman> div*
[09:39] <urulama> antdillon: ^ can you give a quick pointer to deanman here, please
[09:39] <urulama> deanman: changing deployed gui will be easy, otherwise you'll have to go through whole packaging and charming process
[09:40] <urulama> deanman: as it's open source you can clone it and create your own charm, of course
[09:41] <deanman> urulama, Thanks for the chat, well from first look it seems that the HTML is built somehow dynamically and we cannot change it once deploy, we can only customize the CSS.
[09:41] <deanman> deployed*
[09:42] <antdillon> deanman, would you be able to add a top border to the html element via the inspector and show that in the presentation?
[09:44] <deanman> antdillon, well i could but some would be checking the provided link offline so it wouldn't be the same exprience, but anyway, css customization it's fine for now.
[09:44] <deanman> urulama, Do you plan to update juju-gui for 2.0 ? Or any plans on changing the framework ?
[09:45] <urulama> deanman: you mean juju 2.0?
[09:45] <deanman> urulama, yeah!
[09:45] <urulama> deanman: it's already supported, you can use beta3 or less with it
[09:45] <urulama> deanman: framework? we use react, it's something we like :)
[09:46] <antdillon> deanman, if you have access to the deployed HTML you could add a css file to the header as a means to inject css remotely
[09:46] <deanman> I meant the YUI library
[09:47] <urulama> deanman: oh, yes :) that is in plan
[09:49] <deanman> Any clues to which framework are you thiking to switch to ?
[09:52] <urulama> no final decision yet
[10:29] <kjackal> Hey everyone, what is the process for removing a charm from the store? eg https://jujucharms.com/apache-zookeeper/trusty/0 that is not deployable anymore
[10:43] <kjackal> That is revision 0 is not working. https://jujucharms.com/apache-zookeeper/trusty/1 is fine
[16:09] <urulama> kjackal: we don't remove revisions that are broken, but we do have a better publishing process in place, which will be announce soon
[16:09] <urulama> kjackal: i mean, if it's revision 0 and you already have revision 1, we don't remove revision 0 ATM
[16:11] <kjackal> thank you urulama, I assume there is on our roadmap to have a process to remove them at some point, right? Becuse the broken revision is the first hit in a google search
[16:12] <urulama> kjackal: yes, it is
[16:45]  * hatch waves to rick_h_
[16:45] <rick_h_> :)


[00:50] <sonicwifi40> hellp
[00:50] <sonicwifi40> hello*
[00:51] <sonicwifi40> is anyone there?
[00:52] <ahoneybun> Just installed the Nivida driver and working so far
[02:01] <Kali_Yug1> I have a problem with Adobe Flash
[02:02] <Kali_Yug1> This plugin has security vulnerabilities. Activate Adobe Flash
[02:02] <beepie> I smash adobe flash
[02:03] <Kali_Yug1> so just half works on what I do on the Internet somebody said html5
[02:03]  * beepie pancakes adobe technology and throws it in the recycling bin
[02:04] <Kali_Yug1> what should I do?
[02:07] <ahoneybun> Kali_Yug1: you need Flash for something?
[02:17] <Kali_Yug1> Idk many things I cannot see anymore what are u guys doing about it?
[02:18] <Kali_Yug1> Firefox kicked flash out. but alot of websites require it
[02:21] <Kali_Yug1> http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/14/mozilla-blocks-all-versions-of-adobe-flash-in-firefox/
[02:26] <ahoneybun> Kali_Yug1: that would be Firefox doing it, you should be able to turn it back on
[02:30] <Kali_Yug1> I still always have to click activate
[02:31] <Kali_Yug1> No alternative. does html5 the same thing ? but whats with the websites that require flash
[02:33] <Kali_Yug1> Others are suggesting removing Adobe Flash completely.
[02:33] <Kali_Yug1> Be aware, though, that removing or disabling Flash will have a knock-on effect on websites and users may find they can't use certain features on such sites without it.
[02:33] <Kali_Yug1> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3160644/Google-Mozilla-pull-plug-Adobe-Flash-Tech-giants-disable-program-browsers-following-critical-security-flaw.html#ixzz3fvJzspsu
[02:33] <Kali_Yug1> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
[02:33] <Kali_Yug1> sorry didn't want to post that much
[02:37] <ahoneybun> certain sites still use it
[03:07] <Doyle> Hey. Installed 15.04 on a macbook pro retina, but plasmashell keeps crashing every time an external monitor is attached/detached.
[03:07] <Doyle> Is there a driver issue? Or something else that's required?
[03:10] <Doyle> I'm also getting a lot of Core temperature above threshold messages in syslog
[03:19] <darwin_> where is KDE Releases Frameworks 5.12.0, KDE Releases Applications 15.04.3 and Plasma 5.3.2 Released for kubuntu 15.04?????????????????????????????????
[03:20] <darwin_> please release the packages asap...... i need bugfixes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[03:25] <darwin_> Latest Announcements  KDE Releases Frameworks 5.12.0 10 July, 2015. KDE ships monthly release of KDE Frameworks 5, our modular Qt libraries.  KDE Releases Applications 15.04.3 1 July, 2015. KDE ships KDE Applications 15.04.3.  Plasma 5.3.2 Released 30 June, 2015. Plasma 5.3.2 fixes important bugs.
[03:26] <darwin_> Fetched 1,024 kB in 5s (194 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:27] <darwin_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:29] <ahoneybun> our wonderful developers are working hard darwin_
[03:33] <darwin_> ^_^ thanks
[04:12] <hangman13us> hey guys someone with problem updating Flash Player on Kubuntu 15.04? For some reason it cannot be downloaded on my PC. :(
[04:26] <regedit> hangman13us: if for chrome browser, just sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <regedit> i just got a flash update today for chrome
[04:40] <hangman13us> regedit it is every browser
[04:41] <hangman13us> I'm using Firefox and Chrome. On both it doesn't work.
[05:48] <ovidiu-florin> hangman13us: have you solved your issue?
[06:43] <hangman13us> No I haven't :( it says it is updated, but when I try to use my browser to play a game in FB it says I need to update.
[06:44] <hangman13us> When I try to update - it says it is broken...
[06:44] <hangman13us> Wierd
[06:44] <hangman13us> ovidiu-florin
[06:44] <ovidiu-florin> hangman13us: are you using 15.04?
[06:45] <hangman13us> Yes
[06:45] <ovidiu-florin> are you sure you have all your updates installed? when have you last checked?
[06:47] <ovidiu-florin> if yes, have you restarted your browser since?
[06:48] <hangman13us> Yes, first thing I did.
[06:48] <hangman13us> It used to give me an error that adobe-flashplugin failed to install due to missing packages and asked me to fix my connection.
[06:49] <hangman13us> I removed and re-installed... and afterwards did the same in konsole, but same result.
[06:51] <hangman13us> http://dox.bg/files/dw?a=7a719d645b (to download the message I used to have).
[06:51] <hangman13us> Now it is not active in the tray, but i won't be surprised if it appears again later.
[06:52] <ovidiu-florin> hangman13us: please put screenshots on imgur or other image sharing service
[06:54] <hangman13us> http://imgur.com/XhdTMi2
[06:54] <ovidiu-florin> open a konsole and run: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:56] <hangman13us> No installation
[06:56] <hangman13us> I said:
[06:56] <hangman13us> Reading package lists... Done
[06:56] <hangman13us> Building dependency tree
[06:56] <hangman13us> Reading state information... Done
[06:56] <hangman13us> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[06:56] <hangman13us>   linux-headers-3.19.0-16 linux-headers-3.19.0-16-generic linux-headers-3.19.0-18 linux-headers-3.19.0-18-generic linux-headers-3.19.0-20 linux-headers-3.19.0-20-generic linux-image-3.19.0-16-generic
[06:56] <hangman13us>   linux-image-3.19.0-18-generic linux-image-3.19.0-20-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-16-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-18-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-20-generic thunderbird-locale-bg thunderbird-locale-en
[06:56] <hangman13us>   thunderbird-locale-en-gb thunderbird-locale-en-us
[06:57] <hangman13us> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[06:57] <hangman13us> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:57] <hangman13us> I'm not sure if I should remove those packs.
[06:57] <hangman13us> Should I?
[06:59] <ovidiu-florin> it's irelevant to this issue
[06:59] <ovidiu-florin> hangman13us: http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/14/experts-find-a-third-hacking-team-flash-exploit-call-for-an-end-to-the-madness/
[06:59] <ovidiu-florin> http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/14/firefox-temporarily-blocks-adobe-flash-because-of-security-concerns/?ncid=rss&cps=gravity_1462_7989546645076682294
[07:00] <N3X15> tl;dr Firefox is purposefully blocking flash because it has security problems
[07:01] <ovidiu-florin> N3X15: what the article I've sent sais
[07:01] <N3X15> You can And not mild security problems, adobe themselves listed them as critical, and these problems are being actively exploited by hackers.
[07:01] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/FirefoxAndAdobeFlashNPAPI
[07:02] <N3X15> hangman13us, the point is that Adobe Flash may be up to date, but firefox is blocking it because it has issues still.
[07:02] <hangman13us> Surprisingly enough every other browser on my PC does the same.
[07:03] <ovidiu-florin> it's a death wish for flash
[07:03] <N3X15> For the same reason.  Last I checked, there were two unfixed critical vulnerabilities in Flash.
[07:03] <ovidiu-florin> developers and users are sick of it
[07:03] <hangman13us> Hm... maybe I just need to wait the next update, my problem is the Linux version cannot be used so if I'm dependant on Adobe Flash I need to have second Win PC.
[07:04] <hangman13us> Or other OS
[07:04] <N3X15> You can force firefox to run flash, but it's risky.
[07:04] <ovidiu-florin> hangman13us: if you're dependent on Flash, I'd recommend eliminating that dependency
[07:05] <hangman13us> N3X15 - I did this, however the game (it is Stromfall age of war) still fail to load and says I need to update. I was testing this the first time I made the upgrate
[07:05] <N3X15> Does the game itself say flash is out of date?
[07:05] <N3X15> Bear in mind that Linux is using a much older version of Flash since Adobe stopped supporting Linux
[07:06] <hangman13us> Nah... not a real dependancy just annoyed there is update I cannot install and game I cannot play. However sometimes the plugin is used in other platforms as well - some of them even home-banking and etc.
[07:06] <N3X15> Yeah, it's a pain in the butt, but these things happen.
[07:06] <hangman13us> I won't use something vulnerable to do my transactions, but it is just annoying :)
[07:06] <N3X15> Just need to wait for the vendor to sort things out.
[07:07] <hangman13us> N3X15 - Yes game says I need to switch to the right version in order to play.
[07:07] <N3X15> I suspect it'll be like this for months since the vulnerability was part of a 400GB archive of emails, source code, and malware released from a spyware company, people are still finding new things.
[07:08] <N3X15> You may need to spin up a VM with Windows, then.
[07:09] <hangman13us> http://imgur.com/IPnEtJh - what game says
[07:10] <hangman13us> However when I do update it routes to Adobe website and I select APT to update the pack manually and it fails.
[07:10] <N3X15> Yeah, you're probably going to have to run Flash in Windows to get that to work.
[07:10] <N3X15> Most game developers only plan for Windows users.
[07:10] <hangman13us> That's the annoying part. I allowed it to run as it is a game and I don't use my linux machine to store personal and confidential data. And it fails again.
[07:11] <hangman13us> I know (other annoying part mainly due to the vendors and developpers of software). But I'm sure Linux will become more and more popular.
[07:12] <hangman13us> It used to run okay 2-3 weeks ago and them all of a sudden it stopped.
[07:12] <N3X15> Yeah, it's gathering steam, but right now, you just have to roll with the punches.
[07:12] <hangman13us> (y)
[07:13] <N3X15> Sorry, man.
[07:13] <hangman13us> The reason I asked here was mainly to see if there is something I haven't done properly - I tried on my on my own in the start, but then got annoyed :)
[07:14] <hangman13us> And it seems in Adobe's (God bless them) hands :D
[07:14] <N3X15> No, you probably updated it correctly, the problem is that Adobe's still working on it.
[07:14] <hangman13us> thank you guys ;)
[07:14] <N3X15> And it might not work anyway on Linux just because 18.x doesn't work on Linux.
[07:14] <hangman13us> yeah
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:15] <hangman13us> morning :)
[07:16] <lordievader> Hey hangman13us
[07:56] <krise> Hi i installed Kubundt vivid to my 10 years old desktop computer.Installation went well but when i start it up i get plasma crash error and nothing happends
[07:59] <lordievader> What kind of error?
[08:08] <krise> Executable :plasmashell PID: 1159 signal:Aborted (6)
[08:10] <kanto> hi. is there any orientation when the plasma 5.3.2 packages will be released?
[08:11] <lordievader> Hmm, that ain't nice. What kind of graphics card and driver do you use, krise?
[08:11] <lordievader> kanto: Depends on how much time the packagers have. 5.3.2 is in Wily, but still needs to be backported.
[08:12] <krise> i dont really remember, i havent used this computer for years . Sony vaio
[08:13] <lordievader> krise: Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'?
[08:13] <kanto> lordievader; normally they are very quick, was just wondering whether I had been overlooking something...thx
[08:23] <mryoung> Hi, which is a good Usenet client for KDE ?
[08:28] <ejay> Hi all. Plasma is crashing constantly. How can I diagnose why it is happening?
[08:32] <krise> lordievader only thing i can paste is this https://paste.kde.org/pw83jsfnw
[08:34] <lordievader> krise: Go to a tty (ctrl + alt + f1) and run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA| pastebinit
[08:35] <Haudegen> ejay: Plasma 5 simply isn't ready for production use right now.  Plasma 5.3.1 crashes all the time.
[08:35] <murthy> ejay: It may be mostly due to driver issues or corrupted config files. You could open plasmashell in terminal and check for any error message. before that you have to enable plasma-desktop in kdebugdialog
[08:35] <Haudegen> ejay: Which version do you use?
[08:36] <ejay> Haudegen: latest from backports
[08:37] <ejay> murthy: i need to purge config files every time plasma crashes
[08:38] <ejay> murthy: also it is not drivers issues 'cuz plasma did work month ago and now it just went apeshit
[08:38] <murthy> ejay: check if you are running out of space in drive containing the home directory
[08:38] <ejay> murthy: I'm not running out of space in my home dir
[08:39] <murthy> ejay: In that case you try to see if there is any error messages in the terminal like I said before
[08:39] <ejay> is there plasmashell log file or smth?
[08:39] <krise> shit i forgot log in name
[08:40] <murthy> I guess .xsession-errors
[08:40] <zxsinclair_> just jumping in here but also check you got space in /tmp
[08:40] <zxsinclair_> that killed me once
[08:40] <ejay> murthy: when plasma dies and I try to start it from konsole it says that ksycoca is broken or whatever, so I'm removing this file from .cache and after that I can run plasmashell.
[08:41] <murthy> ejay: right your config files might be broken
[08:41] <zxsinclair_> xsession-errors is outdated
[08:41] <zxsinclair_> in kubuntu
[08:41] <zxsinclair_> check here instead: ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log*
[08:41] <murthy> ejay: I will give you a command try it
[08:42] <zxsinclair_> that might in itself be outdated in 15.04 though (systemd)
[08:42] <lordievader> krise: You could boot into the rescue mode.
[08:43] <murthy> ejay: kbuildsycoca5 --noincremental
[08:45] <ejay> murthy: k, thanks. Will see if that is a solution.
[08:46] <murthy> ejay: restart the system after running the command. also you need to delete some files before that
[08:46] <ejay> zxsinclair_: that log is such a mess o_0
[08:46] <murthy> ejay: I will tell in a min
[08:47] <zxsinclair_> ejay: ya but that is, at least in 14.10, where you find stuff. xsession-errors is just blank
[08:50] <murthy> ejay: delete all files with name starting with kwinrulesrc in .config dir
[08:52] <ejay> murthy: k, done. Will restart now. brb
[08:59] <ejay> murthy: well, everything is fine so far
[09:01] <murthy> ejay: there is a bug in kconfig and qt that is the reason for these issue. It is fixed, the fix will be available in kubuntu soon
[09:01] <murthy> ejay: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344518
[09:01] <seyino> hello,i have a Wacom intuos pen & touch tablet,i downloaded and compiled manually the wacom driver,kernel module,libwacom 2 and  kde-config-tablet(from kde-apps).Evreything works except i cannot map mouse buttons(and wheel) to stylus buttons.I can map keystrokes to stylus bottons and that works fine.How can i map mouse buttons and wheel to stylus buttons?
[09:01] <ejay> murthy: nope, plasma just crashed
[09:01] <murthy> ejay: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/110346/
[09:02] <ejay> thats just some next level fucked up shit
[09:02] <murthy> ejay: see this crash happens with a new user
[09:02] <seyino> i am using Kubuntu 14.04.2 with up to date updates
[09:03] <murthy> ejay: If it crashes with a new user then swithch graphics driver between binary and opensource
[09:03] <murthy> ejay: Did you run the command I gave you?
[09:05] <ejay> murthy: yes. it does not matter. this command or just killing every kde related file from .cache and .config - plasma is crashing all the time.
[09:06] <ejay> murthy: k, thanks. I guess I will just change env for somthing more stable.
[09:09] <murthy> ejay: yw
[09:11] <javier_> Hello to eveybody im new on Plasma 5.1 someone knows how to fix KDEinit cannot launch kioexec?
[09:12] <javier_> i was looking for in google but only there is a chatweb
[09:31] <seyino> does someone know  how the mouse buttons and mouse wheel are mapped?
[09:36] <chiaki> Xmodmap
[09:47] <seyino> i tried running xsetwacom set "Wacom Intuos PT S Pen stylus" Button 2 3 to manually set the 1 button on my stylus to 3(right click) and then i did xsetwacom get "Wacom Intuos PT S Pen stylus" Button 2 and the result was button +1
[09:48] <seyino> i don't understand what is happening,shouldn't the output be button +3
[09:49] <seyino> if it is 1 then that means it is mapped to left-click,and it always appears as button +1,when i try to map to mouse,regardless if it is right,left,middle click
[09:49] <seyino> xsetwacom version is 0.30
[09:50] <seyino> i tried sudo xsetwacom set "Wacom Intuos PT S Pen stylus" Button 2 3 ->same result
[09:56] <seyino> i solved my problem,i did a sudo make uninstall to wacom driver form linuxwacom,going back to the one kubuntu provided(xsetwacom 0.25),and now button mapping works
[10:46] <ejay> Where can I find config files to change Breeze theme? I want to change details and to be precise - make panel fully transparent.
[10:52] <Haudegen> Sorry for nagging again.  One question: will we get a working plasma version for 15.04 within the next days?  I get a lot of heat here and I have to make some decisions.
[10:56] <Killer> Who speak Polish ?
[11:26] <mparillo> !PL
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:39] <juboxi> How can I make my terminal windows to stick across reboots?
[12:40] <juboxi> I like to keep 4 x terminal in the larger display and I need to open them and adjust them one-by-one
[12:45] <lordievader> jubo2: You can save a specific session that kde needs to reload upon login.
[12:46] <jubo2> lordievader: instructions to do so plox
[12:48] <lordievader> jubo2: Under plasma5, no idea. Under plasma4: system settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Session Management -> On Login -> Restore manually saved session, hit apply. Then open the kmenu go to the Leave tab and save your session.
[12:51] <jubo2> lordievader: thank you
[12:51] <jubo2> I was able to follow your instructions to the end
[13:05] <faLUCE> Hello, I created a key with ssh-keygen on localhost1 and put it into the remote host throug ssh-copy-id. I can login to remote host without password. Now: can I use on localhost2 the SAME key generated on localhost1, by putting the file(s) on it?
[13:09] <yossarianuk> Shashlik sounds like fun
[13:09] <yossarianuk> https://plus.google.com/115040331792171308990/posts/DU2esBYW3Qe
[13:10] <yossarianuk> whoever I was gibbering about regarding Nvidia yesterday - looks like Nvidia are changing the way the kernel module is built (first step to wayland)
[13:10] <yossarianuk> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-New-Build-System
[13:11] <yossarianuk> progress ! (maybe)
[14:02] <alesan> hello
[14:02] <alesan> any idea how to remove the nolisten tcp flag from X?
[14:03] <alesan> I cannot even find the kdmrc anymore
[14:03] <TJ-> alesan: "/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc" ?
[14:04] <alesan> TJ-, do you think that will work?
[14:06] <TJ-> alesan: I guess it depends on the DM; if it's lightdm "ps -efly" shows "/usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch"
[14:07] <alesan> I thought kubuntu used kdm
[14:07] <TJ-> alesan: And that doesn't match what we see in xserverrc
[14:07] <alesan> damn
[14:07] <TJ-> alesan: Possibly; I'm using lighdm though. Do a grep for nolisten
[14:07] <alesan> this is why I was not able to do certain things
[14:08] <alesan> kdm is not there anymore
[14:08] <alesan> why did kubuntu switch away from kdm?
[14:12] <mparillo_> alesan: Background: http://aseigo.blogspot.com.es/2013/03/logging-into-plasma-workspaces-2.html
[14:12] <mparillo_> Follow-up: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/display_managers_finale
[14:15] <alesan> uff
[14:15] <alesan> OK :(
[14:15] <alesan> I am going to restart X bye
[14:16] <Haudegen> Sorry for nagging again. One question: will we get a working plasma version for 15.04 within the next days? I get a lot of heat here and I have to make some decisions.
[14:19] <ahoneybun> There is hard work on getting Plasma 5.3.2 to 15.04 (vivid)
[14:19] <ahoneybun> Haudegen: ^
[14:27] <Haudegen> ahoneybun: Is there an estimation?  Next week?  Next month?    A lot.  I hate putting pressure on voluntary workers, but I need at least an approximate outlook.  Without anything, I have to switch all my workstations to Debian/KDE over the weekend and that's not a lot of fun.  Thank you for your answer.
[14:32] <regedit> why do my laptop speakers not work until i plug in earphones, after which both earphones and speakers work?
[14:32] <regedit> tis annoying
[14:33] <regedit> i dont want to have to carry around a severed earphone connector just to enable sound on my kubuntu
[14:34] <s_20> regedit: here's a workaround use alsamixer to manipulate the volume manually
[14:35] <regedit> s_20: i tried that one, it's not a volume issue it seems
[14:35] <regedit> all volumes can be turned all the way up, still wont work until i plug in a 3.5mm
[14:35] <regedit> it seems to be some sort of "initial initialization" issue, which the 3.5mm seems to successfully trigger
[14:38] <s_20> i have no idea then :\
[14:38] <BluesKaj> regedit,  which audio chip ?
[14:40] <regedit> BluesKaj: how/where do i check?
[14:40] <regedit> Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> sudo lshw -C sound
[14:41] <regedit> Subsystem: Lenovo Device 3977
[14:41] <regedit> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[14:41] <regedit> that was from lspci -k
[14:41] <BluesKaj> right
[14:46] <BluesKaj> regedit,  open alsamixer and make sure auto-mute is disabled , same for speaker and 'phones no MM in the ctlrl box
[14:46] <regedit> BluesKaj: ahh that was indeed enabled. What is that option about?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> regedit,  dunno , guess so you don't get blasted by deafult sounds when you first boot up after a new install...otherwise I have no idea
[14:48] <regedit> i can only tell if this helps next time i reboot...
[14:49] <s_20> regedit: oh
[14:49] <regedit> BluesKaj: so if someone wants this option enabled the only way to "get out of" that state is indeed by plugging earphones in?
[14:49] <s_20> i just realised, when you tried alsamixer, did you disable the mute option?
[14:49] <s_20> that could be a way to test it right now
[14:49] <s_20> just cranking up the volume doesn't do much if it's muted anyway
[14:50] <regedit> well no it wasnt muted
[14:50] <s_20> did you try to toggle it and nothing happened?
[14:50] <regedit> auto-mute mode does not mean muting/unmuting, i think
[14:50] <regedit> s_20: yup tried toggling all actual mute/unmute buttons i could find
[14:51] <s_20> meaning 'm'?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> regedit,  dunno, I don't much like the negative option, but it's common practice for reasons unknown
[14:52] <regedit> s_20: what do you mean 'm'?
[14:53] <s_20> in alsamixer
[14:53] <s_20> because that's how you mute/unmute channels
[14:53] <regedit> oh
[14:54] <regedit> ahh interesting
[14:54] <regedit> ok i'll have to play with that next boot, thanks s_20
[14:55] <s_20> regedit: you can do that right away, changing the setting is real-time :)
[14:55] <BluesKaj> regedit,  your audio should work now if all is unmuted
[14:55] <regedit> yup but I'm still convinced that might only be because i plugged & unplugged my 3.5mm
[14:55] <regedit> so in order for me to be fully psychologically convinced otherwise, i'll have to reboot :D
[14:56] <s_20> well if you do that you should see the little MMs at the bottom of the channels see toggle if you plug/unplug the audio jack
[14:56] <BluesKaj> regedit,  try something that plays audio, youtube or some tunes
[14:56] <s_20> s/see//
[14:57] <regedit> BluesKaj: yep its currently wirking, after i plugged/unplugged the 3.5mm
[14:57] <regedit> ah yes i see the settings changing when i do that
[14:57] <BluesKaj> rebooting is not necessary
[14:57] <regedit> i know it isnt
[14:58] <regedit> its just that - the issue i've been experiencing occurs upon startup, and doesnt happen anymore after i 3.5mm it
[14:58] <regedit> so i hope to prove alsamixer is indeed in full control of this after next bootup
[14:58] <regedit> when i can mess with the sounds even without the 3.5mm
[14:58] <BluesKaj> only if you have the modprobe sound failure to load the intel driver , which does happen occasionly after upgrades
[14:59] <regedit> maybe
[14:59] <regedit> that's what i'm wishing to prove/disprove
[15:00] <BluesKaj> regedit,  afer setting alsamixer you solidify with ' alsactl store ' in the terminal
[15:01] <regedit> BluesKaj: cool that's good to know ok thanks
[15:01] <regedit> BluesKaj: this means that will be the loaded state by next reboot?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> usually,yes ...no gurantees tho
[15:02] <BluesKaj> err guarantees that is
[15:02] <regedit> ok :)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> there are other issues that come in to play inclding pulseaudio settings etc
[15:03] <BluesKaj> if you have pavucontrol installed
[15:04] <BluesKaj> with intel audio pulseaudio isn't needed unless you stream and listen to different sources simultaneously
[15:05] <regedit> i see
[16:32] <courageux> Is plasma 5.3.2 avaliable for kubuntu 15.04?
[16:35] <lordievader> courageux: Not yet.
[17:28] <marcone_de> good evening. i have a problem i am trying to solve for days: despite vsync is on (i can see framerate capped at 60 fps) screen tearing occurs...
[18:16] <cofo> hi
[18:16] <cofo> anyone with great experience with kubuntu to make it fast. mine is super slow
[18:21] <cofo> hi
[18:21] <cofo> how can i see all my programs
[18:27] <cofo> often isee disk sleep
[18:27] <cofo> why?
[19:04] <lordievader> Disk sleep, what do you mean with that?
[19:46] <patrik_> Hi, can't get my wlan card working...it's a Broadcom Corporation BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:43a0] (rev 03)
[19:47] <patrik_> It worked for a long time..12 months, and now it's not visibel anymore! Are there any known issues with bcmwl-kernel-sources?
[20:07] <Doyle> Hi guys. I'm having issues with plasma dieing whenever I attach/detach external monitors.
[20:07] <Doyle> 15.04. Is this a known issue?
[20:42] <akasic> hi
[20:42] <lordievader> o/
[20:43] <akasic> Q·OR?
[20:43] <lordievader> ?
[20:43] <akasic> o/
[20:44]  * lordievader doesn't follow
[20:46] <akasic> cya
[20:58] <kingjere> after install of kubuntu 15.04 baloo-file is using 95% +/- of my dual core. Any tips?
[21:06] <Doyle> Is this really a support channel?
[21:08] <Doyle> 15.04 - Display Configuration - 2x 24" monitors. Left one Vertical, Right one Horiz. When positioning the right one against the left one, its position snaps to  1200x360, which appears to be the center. I want it at about 1200x340, which isn't accessible bc of the snap.
[21:08] <Doyle> How can I disable the snap? There should be a checkbox. Or the monitors should be positionable by px using the arrow keys.
[21:09] <Doyle> It snaps all the way from 280 to 360...
[21:29] <alexis_> Hello, my kubuntu 14.04.2 does not boot anymore. Is there something in the recent updates that can cause this ?
[21:39] <alexis_> Hello, my kubuntu 14.04.2 does not boot anymore. Is there something in the recent updates that can cause this ?
[21:43] <keithzg> alexis_: What are the exact symptoms?
[21:44] <alexis_> The kubuntu logo appears shines for a second then is frozen. I don't have access to a terminal.
[21:44] <alexis_> And it stays like this when it usually boots in seconds.
[21:51] <alexis_> keithzg: I just got access to a shell using recovery mode. I am going to check for various anomalies.
[21:55] <alexis_> keithzg: dkms was just upgraded, I am trying to reinstall graphics drivers, maybe it failed during an upgrade recently. I may not have noticed.
[21:56] <keithzg> keithzg: That could definitely explain the symptoms, yeah
[22:00] <alexis_> keithzg: in the logs, there are messages about graphic drivers being interrupted and started again several times today
[22:01] <keithzg> alexis_: What graphics card are you using? I'm assuming for drivers since DKMS is involved you're using the binary blobs either from NVIDIA or AMD.
[22:03] <alexis_> keithzg: graphic card is : AMD R9 270X and driver is : fglrx
[22:04] <keithzg> alexis_: So did the reinstall appear to go fine?
[22:04] <alexis_> nope it has not solved the problem
[22:06] <keithzg> alexis_: Which fglrx package are you using?
[22:07] <alexis_> keithzg : fglrx official, the one in the repositories, not fglrx-updates nor another
[22:10] <keithzg> alexis_: I think at this point for 14.04, the fglrx and fglrx-updates packages are one and the same; at the very least they have the same version strings.
[22:10] <alexis_> keithzg : sorry i did not know
[22:11] <keithzg> alexis_: No worries, that definitely isn't true for all releases, and I had to double-check a moment ago to make sure my recollection was accurate here :)
[22:13] <keithzg> alexis_: I haven't had issues with my main AMD GPU'd machine at home, but it's still on the fglrx(-updates) 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 package, presumably you also upgraded to 2:15.200-0ubuntu0.3 ?
[22:15] <alexis_> keithzg: how can i check the version from a terminal ?
[22:15] <keithzg> alexis_: apt-cache policy fglrx
[22:16] <keithzg> That should show you which versions are available, and show which is actually installed (and from which repo)
[22:16] <alexis_> keithzg: it is indeed the 2:15.200-0ubuntu0.3
[22:18] <alexis_> keithzg: I removed-purged fglrx, I am installing it againt, just to see.
[22:19] <keithzg> alexis_: Fingers crossed, then. If not, you said can see problems shown in your logfiles? Could you put one up on a paste site? (the "pastebinit" terminal utility can help with that)
[22:20] <keithzg> A logfile might make it a bit easier to figure out quite what's going wrong...frankly I've luckily avoided any such dire issues with AMD cards at least so far! (NVIDIA was another issue, heh)
[22:20] <keithzg> But if a purge and reinstall works, well, then that's good enough :)
[22:27] <alexis_> keithzg: it's not enough apparently lol
[22:27] <keithzg> alexis_: heh, alas
[22:28] <alexis_> keithzg: the curious thing is that when I got to a shell, dkms needed an update
[22:28] <Doyle> In 15.04, sound works in Firefox but not chrome. Why would that be?
[22:30] <keithzg> Doyle: Perhaps they're using different audio outputs, check the sound settings in System Settings and see if any of the categories are set odd. Although I've frankly had a few bits of weirdness with sound in 15.04 in general (ex. if I don't have my earbuds plugged in before booting sound never redirects to them after I plug them in).
[22:34] <Finetundra> how would one port a windows cursor pack to kubuntu?
[22:34] <Doyle> Everything looks fine keithzg.
[22:37] <Doyle> Maybe that there's just no html5 sound in chrome...
[22:39] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm. And apt-cache policy on dkms presumably shows version <IP_ADDRESS>-1.1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> installed?
[22:40] <alexis_> keithzg: yes exactly
[22:41] <keithzg> Finetundra: My first thought would be to download a mouse theme from http://kde-look.org/?xcontentmode=36 and see how those are structured.
[22:42] <keithzg> Doyle: Hmm, there's definitely HTML5 sound for me on my 15.04 laptop using Chrome personally. I don't have it with me at the moment to check our respective setups against eachother though, sadly.
[22:42] <keithzg> alexis_: So, time to peruse some log files, perhaps?
[22:43] <alexis_> keithzg: I have been looking for something in them, not found anything yet
[22:43] <Finetundra> cool, willl do
[22:43] <keithzg> Finetundra: Oh, also ran across this: http://kde-look.org/kb/How+to+create+a+cursor+theme/?kbid=477&PHPSESSID=cae
[22:45] <keithzg> Finetundra: As usual the Arch wiki has some more detailed technical info that's pertinent: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cursor_themes . Best of luck!
[22:45] <Finetundra> thanks
[22:45] <keithzg> np
[22:50] <keithzg> alexis_: Do you game much? If you don't actually need optimal 3D performance, you could always just use the opensource drivers instead (much less buggy).
[22:51] <alexis_> keithzg: I game and use CAD/Sim softwares. I found an error with xorg, which couldn't find /etc/X11/X
[22:51] <Finetundra> hmm, keithzg, do you know how I would create a cursor theme pack? not just a cursor
[22:55] <keithzg> Finetundra: Basically, that how-to short guide would be for each image in the pack, and then if you download a full theme you should get an idea of how the packs are structured and be able to just replicate (or replace, piece by piece) it. I believe so, at least!
[22:55] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm, drat.
[22:56] <keithzg> alexis_: Oh, hmm, maybe fglrx is failing to create its default X config
[22:57] <keithzg> alexis_: Or does /etc/X11/X indeed not actually exist?
[22:58] <alexis_> keithzg: it does not exist, startx doesn't work
[22:59] <keithzg> alexis_: Huh, that seems serious. Try reconfiguring the xserver-xorg package?
[23:01] <alexis_> keithzg: it worked like a charm, thank you very much for your help
[23:01] <keithzg> alexis_: Oho! I wonder what caused that to mess up, huh. Good to hear it's working now though :)
[23:02] <Finetundra> well, I'm stumped
[23:02] <alexis_> keithzg: now, my login always brings me back to the login interface !!!
[23:02] <keithzg> alexis_: Hrmmm. What's your free space looking like?
[23:03] <keithzg> alexis_: I've had that issue before when I wasn't paying attention and ran out of disk space on my home partition.
[23:03] <alexis_> what command could i use ?
[23:03] <keithzg> df -h
[23:04] <keithzg> "df" is the "disk free" command, showing how much space is free on each 'disk', and the "-h" flag tells it to print easily human-readable formats.
[23:04] <alexis_> keithzg: I have 171Go available, so I guess I should have a look at kubuntu-desktop etc
[23:05] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm, yeah, maybe other packages in your update failed somehow in their installs too.
[23:06] <alexis_> keithzg: Do you know of a way to reconfigure them all ?
[23:07] <keithzg> alexis_: Well, if it's that a bunch failed to properly configure, good ol' "sudo dpkg --configure -a" could do the trick.
[23:08] <keithzg> alexis_: If that doesn't solve things, then the Hail Mary is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all"
[23:08] <keithzg> That might take a LOOOOOOONG time, heh.
[23:09] <alexis_> keithzg: that's what I was thinking of :d
[23:10] <keithzg> alexis_: Yeah I had to do that before myself once, after I'd done a huge update and it turned out one of the sticks of RAM I had in was bad.
[23:10] <alexis_> keithzg: ah, interesting : initramfs-tools is broken or not fully installed
[23:12] <keithzg> alexis_: Oho, that'd definitely explain dkms failing
[23:14] <alexis_> keithzg: if I log as a guest, it loads kde properly, but my session does not work
[23:15] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm. Try renaming the .kde folder?
[23:16] <alexis_> keithzg: no change
[23:17] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm, so it's clearly something else. Hmmmmm. is there anything in your .xsession-errors file?
[23:18] <alexis_> keithzg: init: Disconnected from notified D-Bus Bus
[23:19] <alexis_> keithzg: init: startkde main process (2919) killed by TERM signal
[23:22] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm. Could you put up /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors on a paste site?
[23:26] <alexis_> keithzg: paste.ubuntu.com/11885197
[23:33] <alexis_> keithzg: paste.ubuntu.com/11885214
[23:38] <keithzg> alexis_: Hmm. Yeah, I dunno. Nothing obvious jumps out at me there :(
[23:38] <alexis_> keithzg: thanks for your help
[23:39] <keithzg> alexis_: Oh, actually, can you check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log ?
[23:39] <ahoneybun> lightdm?
[23:40] <keithzg> ahoneybun: Yeah, alexis_ is running 14.04 still so presumably still on lightdm
[23:40] <ahoneybun> oh right
[23:41] <alexis_> keithzg: good idea, looking at it now
[23:41] <keithzg> alexis_: Since it's only your user, you might also take a gander at /var/log/auth.log
[23:41] <keithzg> Maybe there's just some permissions wonkiness somehow going on.
[23:46] <alexis_> keithzg: paste.ubuntu.com/11885264 the dbus error can be seen around 848
[23:49] <keithzg> alexis_: What's the ownership look like on your ~/.Xauthority file?
[23:49] <alexis_> keithzg: root root
[23:50] <keithzg> run "sudo chown alexis:alexis .Xauthority" and see if that fixes anything.
[23:52] <alexis_> keithzg: it worked, thank you very much, it would have taken me ages to figure that out by myself
[23:54] <alexis_> keithzg: I don't know what caused all of this, it must have started with a failed update
[23:58] <alexis_> keithzg: games & CAD softwares are working properly
[23:58] <alexis_> keithzg: thank you again
[23:58] <keithzg> alexis_: No problem! Yeah, it must have all cascaded somehow from the failed update, sometimes things fail like that. Chaos Theory at work ;)
[23:59] <alexis_> keithzg: yeah murphy's law and all that stuff combined :)


[01:48] <Mhz> goodnight
[16:13] <Alan_M> Hey everyone! :D
[20:43] <mpt> Does anyone here know, by chance, how I might be able to get Yelp to open a checkout of the Gnome HIG?
[20:44] <mpt> There are a bunch of DocBook files, but Yelp complains that all of them are invalid
[21:07] <Gwaihir> mpt: are you opening the master XML file?
[21:07] <Gwaihir> probably the HIG guide is split up in different small XML files
[21:08] <mpt> Gwaihir, yes, hig-book.xml includes all the other files as ENTITYs
[21:08] <Gwaihir> and yelp complains?
[21:09] <mpt> yes, 'The requested URI "hig-book.xml" is invalid'
[21:09] <mpt> oh oh!
[21:09] <mpt> I figured it out
[21:09] <Gwaihir> have you tried with xmllint to see where/what is the problem?
[21:09] <mpt> or rather, I remembered Yelp's stupidity
[21:09] <mpt> Yelp accepts only absolute paths, not relative ones
[21:09] <Gwaihir> oh yes...
[21:09] <mpt> So ./hig-book.xml doesn't work, but ~/hacking/hig/C/hig-book.xml does
[21:09] <Gwaihir> that's it...