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[08:32] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, should we do a boost-icu transition too?
[08:32] <LocutusOfBorg> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:32] <LocutusOfBorg>  liblucene++0v5 : Depends: libboost-regex1.71.0-icu66
[08:32] <LocutusOfBorg> this happens in poedit
[08:34] <LocutusOfBorg> in the meanwhile I'm rebuilding lucene++
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[09:11] <Laney> some of the lxd-armhf machines are borked, will destroy & re-create them
[09:11] <Laney> (might just do them all, that'll be quicker)
[09:12] <Laney> a job to do this on a rolling basis would be neat if anyone wants a fun task ...
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-drivers-common [source] (focal-proposed) [1:0.8.4~<IP_ADDRESS>]
[09:47] <Trevinho> SRU team ping: can you please check mutter and shell in focal queue?
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[10:55] <doko> xnox: is the icu tracker correct? asc migrated, but still shows as bad
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[12:08] <Laney> Looks like it got the levels wrong wrt boost, probably something to do with the provides
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[13:08] <LocutusOfBorg> can we please wait a little bit with icu/boost rebuilds?
[13:08] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm mostly over with protobuf/re2 transition
[13:08] <LocutusOfBorg> oh damn, clichouse is entangling them already :/
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> and node-re2 is entangling with nodejs hurray
[13:59] <Laney> we can probably boot those out
[14:05] <Laney> will do that
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[14:12] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: done, now get protobuf to go
[14:25] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks, I'm trying to figure out gnss-sdr, and compiz on s390x
[14:27] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, also gnss-sdr can be kicked out? because it needs boost/icu to build...
[14:27] <Laney> looks ok
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> I'll try to fix again once gnuradio publishes
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> btw, mir autopkgtest looks suspiciously related to icu/boost
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> or maybe just a slow answer
[14:29] <Laney> they have #ubuntu-mir iirc, might have more luck there
[14:32] <Laney> gnss-sdr gone
[14:32] <Laney> so just compiz/s390x, and that has rdeps
[14:33] <Laney> (but probably questionable value ...)
[15:03] <vorlon> apw: component-mismatches says we want to promote linux-5.7, which also does not have a kernel-packages subscriber
[15:03] <apw> vorlon, that one is just about dead i believe, and will be removed rather
[15:03] <apw> sforshee, ^ you are moving off -5.7 right?
[15:04] <sforshee> apw: right
[15:04] <apw> sforshee, how long before it can be wacked
[15:04] <sforshee> apw: it should be ok to go ahead and remove it I think
[15:12] <apw> sforshee, that had a non-overlapping synthetic udeb didn't it ?
[15:13] <apw> oh but the primary kernl package probabally provides things
[15:15] <apw>  Provides: efi-modules, ext3-modules, ext4-modules, kernel-image, squashfs-modules
[15:15] <apw> ok confirmed, i believe this is why those things are trying to pull it into main, even though there is something in main which already provides them; in that sense a false positive
[15:16] <apw> and also it is safe to remove them because there is other provision
[15:16] <xnox> apw: is that in groovy, or some other suite?
[15:16] <apw> groovy-proposed
[15:16] <xnox> apw:  hm, there should be nothing that tries to pull them in =/
[15:16] <xnox> oh
[15:16] <xnox> yes
[15:16] <xnox> yes it will.
[15:16] <apw> partman's udebs depend on some of the provides:
[15:17] <xnox> apw:  until we implement building with `noudeb` profile and remove all the udebs.
[15:17] <xnox> apw:  also `partman-base` should have been removed from groovy
[15:17] <xnox> (the rest of partman-* was)
[15:17] <apw> anyhow, we should ignore component-missmatch-proposed's desire to pull it in, and i believe it safe to remove; and i will do that in a bit
[15:18] <xnox> yeap
[16:08] <vorlon> Laney: so I added a block linux-5.7 to work around the tracebacks and let things migrate; feel free to twiddle that as necessary for debugging
[16:09] <LocutusOfBorg> why the hell is cura-engine still installing both old and new protobuf in autopkgtests<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:09] <LocutusOfBorg> it fails because we can't have both
[16:09] <LocutusOfBorg> :/
[16:10] <Laney> vorlon: ah, I think I fixed it, will drop that
[16:10] <vorlon> Laney: ok, cheers
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[16:17] <Eickmeyer> ^ bug 1889146
[16:18] <Laney> I'm going to try rolling back sysdig, new one looks like it's broken on armhf
[16:27] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, thanks!
[16:28] <xnox> vorlon:  i am now wondering if most of my binNMUs that I uploaded were all wrong.
[16:28] <xnox> i can't seem to find a bunch of them, and some have migrated cause they managed to build against 66 icu.
[16:33] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: cura-engine needs a trigger on libarcus, want to do that?
[16:35] <xnox> separate thing
[16:36] <LocutusOfBorg> I think I just did that
[16:37] <Laney> neat, it passed
[16:39] <bryyce> is there something I can do to help remove the remaining php-horde-* bits?  (see lp: #1880776)  There's a couple handfuls of packages on excuses like php-horde-activesync, php-horde-core, etc.
[16:44] <xnox> vorlon:  hm https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/0ad/<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu4/+build/19741761 what's going on =( no build log?!
[16:51] <Laney> I think there's an outage of sorts going on at the minute which cjwatson is working on
[16:52] <cjwatson> Indeed
[17:04] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, we need also a gazebo trigger
[17:05] <Laney> I've hinted that and something else, it's some apt weirdness getting the right versions of boost-icu installed
[17:05] <LocutusOfBorg> done, hopefully
[17:05] <Laney> took ages fiddling around in a vm and made it pass in the end
[17:06] <LocutusOfBorg> I think gazebo just needed an hint without boost inside
[17:06] <Laney> so I added a skiptest ...
[17:06] <Laney> well if yours works, good :-)
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> now we are waiting for the outage to finish
[17:07] <LocutusOfBorg> compiz build looks sad
[17:08] <Laney> just the outage mentioned above, should hopefully unstick itself when that's fixed
[17:09] <Laney> I think it's going to come down to just mir remaining
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> mir is "fixed"
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> I mean, test disabled in s390x
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> btw I *think* sysdig removal was not correct, better hint on armhf
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> ERROR: "__aeabi_uldivmod" [/var/lib/dkms/sysdig/0.26.7/build/sysdig-probe.ko] undefined!
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> well, I see no div in the diff between .4 and .7
[17:10] <LocutusOfBorg> probably a new kernel module added?
[17:10] <Laney> we'll see
[17:11] <xnox> doko:  fixed up icu67 tracker, it was wrong. Will take a little bit for it to republish.
[17:12] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I think you confused mir and compiz
[17:13] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/1.7.1-0ubuntu7
[17:13] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, ^^
[17:14] <LocutusOfBorg> needs riscv64 to finish build
[17:14] <LocutusOfBorg> and compiz is fixed on s390x
[17:14] <Laney> I know, that doesn't say disabled test on s390x
[17:14] <LocutusOfBorg> yep :)
[17:14] <Laney> soooooo
[17:14] <LocutusOfBorg> + * Linux 5.6 kernels no longer include the old 32-bit timeval
[17:14] <LocutusOfBorg> + * structures. But the syscalls (might) still use them.
[17:15] <LocutusOfBorg> sysdiag might have regressed in this
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[17:17] <Laney> it seems moderately active upstream, if you wanted to look there might be a commit
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[17:18] <bdmurray> How many double uploads can one SRU queue have?
[17:20] <bdmurray> jamespage: There are 2 uploads of openvswitch in the bionic SRU queue. Is there one that you prefer? The diffs are substantially different in size.
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[18:34] <Eickmeyer> RAOF or bdmurray: Could we get a quick look at the zita-ajbridge upload for bug 1889146? This fixes a regression causing 100% CPU usage.
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[18:56] <Eickmeyer> Thanks!
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[20:07] <ddstreet> bdmurray hello, got a request to review the systemd upload in bionic, it's been there for 20 days
[20:08] <ddstreet> it fixes the bugs listed in the changelog (including a FTBFS on arm64), and also there's a new issue that requires a rebuild after kmod is accepted, for LP: #1889297
[20:09] <ddstreet> so the kmod patch is needed first, before systemd is accepted
[20:10] <ddstreet> mfo is working on the kmod revert i believe
[20:12] <bdmurray> ddstreet: so there is nothing for me to do yet?
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[20:40] <ddstreet> bdmurray i thought mfo had already uploaded kmod, but looks like not, so no nothing yet. sorry.
[20:54] <mfo> ddstreet, bdmurray: yup, kmod is not yet uploaded.  it's waiting on PPA builders. :/ as soon as that is finished and tested i'll upload.  thanks.
[20:55] <mfo> oh, sending the msg did help. builders started! :D
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[22:16] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, please once built everywhere, rollback pokerth 1.1.2-1build9 to pokerth 1.1.2-1build8 thanks
[22:16] <LocutusOfBorg> protobuf is ready for migration
[22:17] <LocutusOfBorg> (see backlog, we were holding back some packages to avoid protobuf entangling with icu/nodejs/re/boost
[22:17] <LocutusOfBorg> )
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[22:49] <mfo> bdmurray, just uploaded kmod to bionic, if you have a chance. thanks!
[22:49] <mfo> it needs to build/be avail before systemd.
[22:53] <xnox> i would call it critical for the bionic point release
[22:54] <bdmurray> xnox: which it? systemd or kmod?
[22:56] <xnox> bdmurray:  both, they are related =)
[22:56] <xnox> "ressurect kmod-udeb, make systemd's udebs use kmod-udebs again"
[23:01] <bdmurray> Okay, I've somewhere to be shortly but will try and look at it later this evening
[23:02] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: how can protobuf be ready to go? dnsdist is tied to both protobuf and re2
[23:22] <mfo> xnox, i believe you're aware, but just in case, please note that systemd in bionic's upload queue has more changes than the systemd debdiff attached in LP#1889297 (which was more of a "no change rebuild" w/ just a fix to arm64 FTBFS), if that's the one you looked at recently.
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[11:40] <otubo> smoser, hey, don't see anything regarding LVM on cloud-utils-growpart, would have plans to do it? I have a couple of issues with customers using RHEL requesting it.
[13:09] <Odd_Bloke> We just landed a fix for an issue that affects groovy (thanks rharper!), so I'm going to upload a new cloud-init to groovy.
[13:16] <meena> what's groovy?
[13:28] <rharper> Odd_Bloke: nice!
[13:28] <rharper> meena: new ubuntu development release name Groovy Gorilla
[13:29] <meena> 20.10?
[13:29] <meena> yes
[13:32] <Odd_Bloke> rharper: If you have a minute to validate: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/486
[13:43] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1799953
[13:43] <smoser> otubo: ^ . I have no plans. but ^ is the bug that was created for the issue.
[13:48] <meena> works for zfs
[13:48] <meena> but then again, zfs is lvm + $fs in one
[13:49] <otubo> smoser, thanks
[13:49] <otubo> Odd_Bloke, do you guys plans to migrate issues from launchpad to github as well in the future?
[13:51] <Odd_Bloke> otubo: Nope, we have to use Launchpad for Ubuntu issues/process regardless, so migrating "upstream" issues to GitHub would just leave us handling issues across two platforms.
[14:25] <smoser> otubo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1799953
[14:26] <smoser> comment added there. it seems pretty easy. if you wanted to try
[14:43] <meena> smoser: the only issue i see is using the device uuid, or some other link to it, instead of the device path
[15:10] <smoser> meena: ?
[15:10] <smoser> how so.
[15:11] <meena> i dunno, hmm, maybe that just means more steps in the resolution of the name / path
[15:14] <smoser> you mea if the pvcreate had been done with a different path ? hm...
[15:14] <smoser> i dont know how names for pvs are done.
[15:16] <smoser> so yeah, th3e check that is uggested (pvs | grep) could be an issue. and result in not running pvresize.
[15:16] <smoser> but it seems the other pv commands when given a block device path probably open it, read the PV UUID and use *that*
[15:19] <smoser> just playing... i did a 'pvcreate' with the by-partuuid path:
[15:19] <smoser> pvcreate /dev/disk/by-partuuid/2079bb1d-d7ca-4b4f-a1d1-a62c06b7c570
[15:20] <smoser> and then 'pvs' will show the pv with the 'loop5p1' name. I'm guessing that it just does effectively 'readlink -f' on whatever input for that.
[15:25] <smoser> thanks alot meena
[15:26] <smoser> now i'm back to being depressed about linux storage
[15:54] <rharper> s/linux storage/linux-lvm2
[16:17] <meena> i wish zfs would work somehow across computers,so you could build cloud storage
[16:17] <meena> but chances are that then it simply wouldn't work
[16:33] <smoser> rharper: wrt sucking, i mean that wrt almost all of linux storage. its not limited to lvm.
[16:39] <meena> imagine if ceph was easy!
[18:00] <smoser> it woudl still suck.
[18:01] <smoser> sorry.... rharper and I submitted a talk to open source summit, but it didn't get accepted.
[18:02] <smoser> things we learned and got burnedon in curtin and other places.
[18:22] <meena> smoser: about storage on Linux?
[18:22] <meena> did you still write it down?
[18:26] <smoser> https://hackmd.io/eMOklfSvS6aFCcmu_1h79Q
[18:28] <meena> wow, this is literally the worst web page i've visited all day: http://www.golismero.com/
[18:28] <meena> smoser: cool! i … didn't expect that, but wow, cool!
[18:44] <meena> uuids are not unique when you snapshot and re-attach. this goes for partition uuids, and fs uuids. What is a good way to find the right path to this thing. fstab ⬅ wat
[18:44] <rharper> smoser: heh;  lvm2 has a special place on my crap list ...
[18:44] <rharper> meena:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FSTAB
[18:46] <rharper> consolidated list of best persistent links;   we generally prefer to avoid FS_UUID if possible, as it;'s mutable;  but in the absence of any other one, we use that
[18:46] <smoser> all that magic (like LABEL= or UUID=) it all works most of the time.
[18:46] <smoser> and when a human is typing stuff, the times ti doesn't work, they just live with and reboot or whatever. they say "oh well, that doesn't work because x y z"
[18:50] <meena> i can copy/paste, or i can use human readable / writable paths.


[00:01] <olujicz> pogledaću sve, pa ću videti šta je zanimljvo :)
[00:02] <olujicz> prehladio sam se pa se dosađujem u krevetu sa igricama :)
[00:04] <nemysis> to je baš lepo :)
[00:05] <dejan-dexi> a lutkice
[00:05] <dejan-dexi> oblacis barbike
[00:05] <dejan-dexi> ili ljustis majmunu bananu
[01:21] <noah_> hey... sorry for abusing the channel for translation services... but can anybody tell me what "bleh" means, e.g. "bleh orkestar agusevi" or "Blehorkestar Bakija Bakic"
[01:41] <promis> brass orchestra Bakija Bakić
[01:42] <noah_> promis, thank you! so bleh means brass, is that in serbian?
[01:42] <promis> no thats in macedonian
[01:42] <promis> Pleh is in serbian
[01:43] <noah_> awesome thank you, that's super helpful
[01:43] <noah_> (google translate doesn't seem to know the word bleh)
[01:43] <promis> Style : Balkan brass
[01:43] <promis> http://www.backata.com/index.php?newsid=397
[01:44] <promis> see this link
[01:44] <noah_> (or maybe it wants cyrillic)
[01:45] <noah_> promis, yep i know... i play balkan brass music, trying to come up with a good band name
[01:45] <promis> Personalay I always say Pleh
[01:45] <noah_> does duvacki also mean brass?
[01:45] <promis> jes
[01:45] <promis> heh, yes
[01:46] <noah_> trubaci also?
[01:46] <promis> duvački - breath
[01:46] <promis> trubači - trumpetieres
[01:47] <promis> in wich country do tou play?
[01:47] <noah_> ah excellent thanks
[01:47] <promis> In which country do you paly?
[01:47] <noah_> so duvacki is sort of like "wind" as in wind instrument, wind ensemble etc
[01:47] <noah_> in usa
[01:47] <promis> yes
[01:48] <promis> duvački orekstar is wind ensemble
[01:49] <promis> Did you listen to Fead Sejdić?
[01:50] <promis> He is one of the best.
[01:50] <promis> In Serbia
[01:51] <noah_> i did not know him!
[01:51] <noah_> a singer?
[01:51] <promis> Well, maybe he sings,
[01:52] <promis> but he is trumpet player
[01:52] <promis> and he had en ensemble
[01:52] <noah_> oh, ok... so he's the trumpet player, not the singer here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZxy4EqzzUQ
[01:52] <promis> trumpetiers ensemble
[01:53] <noah_> i think naat veliov from kocani orkestar is my favorite
[01:54] <promis> I'm not shure, but I think it's him in the white suit
[01:55] <noah_> do you listen to much brass music?
[01:56] <promis> No, just occasionally
[01:56] <promis> mainly when there is some party on
[01:57] <noah_> i see
[01:57] <promis>  like he beat
[01:57] <noah_> are there many bands in your area?
[01:57] <promis> and the traditional balkan melodies
[01:57] <promis> there are plenty of brass bands in serbia
[01:58] <noah_> in serbia definitely but i mean in your particular area
[01:58] <promis> smaoe times they come, few of them, and play in front of apartment building for money
[01:59] <promis> I'm in Belgrade, so there are plenty here.
[01:59] <noah_> aha ok... i think i have heard that there's a concentration in vranje and probably other places
[01:59] <noah_> anywhere with a lot of roma probably
[01:59] <noah_> are there many non-roma bands?
[02:00] <promis> It's pretty normal to see brass band on the street
[02:00] <promis> I think there are a lot non gypsy bands
[02:01] <promis> But traditionaly they are the majority
[02:02] <promis> And the best players
[02:03] <noah_> yeah it's amazing how many great gypsy musicians there are
[02:03] <noah_> do you know the word gadje? would you consider it offensive?
[02:04] <promis> did you mean gajde?
[02:04] <noah_> do i? what does gajde mean?
[02:04] <promis> beacause gadje doesent mean anything that i know of
[02:04] <promis> Gajde is an instrument.
[02:04] <noah_> oh
[02:05] <noah_> no gadje i believe is the gypsy word for non-gypsy
[02:05] <promis> I dont know that word
[02:06] <promis> maybe its on gypsy language
[02:06] <noah_> i think it is yes
[02:06] <noah_> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gadjo_%28non-Roma%29
[02:09] <promis> don't know
[02:27] <noah_> меч is yet another word?
[02:27] <noah_> for brass?
[02:29] <promis>  no
[02:29] <promis> asa far i know
[02:30] <noah_> http://translate.google.com/#en|mk|brass%20music -- tells me "меч музика" - what does it really mean?
[02:30] <promis> it's writting nonsense
[02:31] <noah_> hehe ok
[02:31] <promis> that translator is garbage
[02:31] <promis> we use it for fun
[02:31] <noah_> :)
[02:32] <promis> serbian language it's much more complex than english
[02:32] <promis> so it's not easy to write the tranlastor
[02:33] <noah_> i see
[02:33] <promis> we use меч for game, like in english match
[02:33] <promis> its word from english, adapted
[02:34] <noah_> i wonder what the translator was thinking
[02:38] <promis> how come you find the interest in balkan brass?
[02:40] <noah_> it's great music and really fun to play
[02:40] <noah_> especially for a trumpet player
[02:41] <noah_> also i've known klezmer music since i was young and there are many similarities
[02:41] <noah_> but more energy and more variety in balkan brass
[02:42] <promis> yeah, to much ;)
[02:44] <noah_> hehe sometimes
[02:44] <promis> don't know if you heard about Guča festival
[02:45] <promis> it's pretty popular in last years
[02:45] <promis> maybe thats the place for you to be
[02:45] <noah_> yep i know guca
[02:45] <noah_> i'd like to go someday
[02:46] <noah_> have you been?
[02:46] <promis> no, I'm really not in that kind of "bahanalije"
[02:47] <promis> well, maybe thats the name for your band
[02:47] <promis> Bahanalije
[02:47] <noah_> means a big party?
[02:47] <promis> if you play fast, and wild
[02:47] <promis> yaeah
[02:47] <promis> big jucie, greasy party
[02:48] <promis> in all means
[02:48] <noah_> yeah actually we have that word in english too, bacchanalia i think
[02:48] <noah_> but... it's a little hard to spell and remember
[02:49] <promis> well, it all came grom antic greek
[02:50] <noah_> yeah
[02:50] <promis> Bacchus is Dionysus
[02:53] <promis> well, it's almost 04 AM here, gotta go
[02:53] <noah_> ok
[02:53] <noah_> thanks for your help!
[02:53] <promis> nothing
[02:53] <promis> see ya
[02:53] <noah_> l8r
[09:35] <petrovicivan> radak_ ćao
[09:36] <radak_> pozz
[09:36] <petrovicivan> čitam ovu prepisku za IRC
[09:37] <petrovicivan> malo je nervozno kako ljudi reaguju
[09:37] <petrovicivan> kao da im ekseri po ceo dan padaju na glavu
[09:38] <petrovicivan> samo da pređem na empathy, ne mogu ovde na web-u da četujem
[09:38] <radak_> ne razumijem, jesam li opet nesto zabrljavio
[11:25] <petrovicivan> možda bi trebalo ovde prebaciti deo diskusije
[11:25] <petrovicivan> zbog cenzure koja vlada na forumu
[11:29] <olujicz> kakva cenzura
[11:29] <promis> ne znam o čemu se radi, ali i ovde važi: Pazi snima se.
[11:29] <olujicz> kakva god da je ona na forumu, slobodno ocekuj istu i ovde
[11:33] <dejan-dexi> nisam dugo bio na forumu
[11:34] <dejan-dexi> o cemu se radi
[11:34] <dejan-dexi> navikao sam se na stari , ovaj mi mnogo ruzan
[11:35] <olujicz> imas vise tema za forum, ja ne koristim onu podrazumevanu
[11:35] <dejan-dexi> to znam ,
[11:36] <promis> Ja koristim sivu
[11:36] <promis> slaže mi se uz macovu graphite
[11:37] <olujicz> koristis mac temu?
[11:37] <olujicz> zar ima neka koja je ok
[11:37] <olujicz> koju god sam video je bila polovicna
[11:38] <dejan-dexi> gle sada , ne znam gde je menjanje tema
[11:40] <dejan-dexi> u bre , jbte ne znam sada da nadjem , jebem ti MyBB
[11:41] <olujicz> korisnicka kp, ucitaj postavke, pa u ostale postavke
[11:41] <dejan-dexi> na kp - sam i bauljam , sacu da vidim
[11:42] <dejan-dexi> da , heh
[11:43] <dejan-dexi> ladno nisam video ucitaj postavke
[11:45] <dejan-dexi> adamentiom je ipak ok , ostace
[11:46] <olujicz> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/smooth-inset-first-real-theme-for-new.html
[11:46] <olujicz> lepo izgleda ovo
[11:48] <dejan-dexi> mani svaki gnome shll izglaeda odlicno  ,, ali kako cu da se odviknem od 3.2 ...
[11:54] <uros1> dobar dan u kuću
[11:55] <olujicz> hi
[12:56] <Hermes> dobar dan
[13:01] <uros1> dobar dan
[13:24] <petrovicivan> ćao
[13:46] <Broker> poydrav svima :)
[13:46] <Broker> pozdrav*
[14:13] <nemysis> Pozdrav
[14:43] <Hermes> koji je kanal za BSD?
[14:44] <Hermes> tj.


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[11:48] <skraito> hi guys
[11:48] <skraito> http://0x71.org/Music for my album
[11:48] <skraito> u gonna love it
[11:48] <skraito> is a hymn and free song
[11:48] <skraito> pray to the Lord after that
[13:11]  * skraito said why the fucker dev null keep on flooding freenode


[07:00] <didrocks> hey sil2100, how were your holidays?
[07:02] <sil2100> didrocks: hello, thanks, not bad
[07:02] <sil2100> Although very busy, so as always I didn't even start resting properly ;)
[07:03] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, that's the issue with one week vacations :)
[07:06] <didrocks> sil2100: FYI, we have some unity regressions with unity 6.0
[07:06] <didrocks> sil2100: can you look at backporting the existing fixes? there is also those branches that I think we need (please investigate with duflu):
[07:06] <didrocks>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1019337
[07:07] <didrocks> https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/compiz/fix-1019337.2/+merge/114597
[07:07] <didrocks>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1024911
[07:07] <didrocks> and we need a fix for bug #1024459
[07:07] <sil2100> didrocks: thanks! Will look at those once I get up-to-date with e-mail
[07:07] <didrocks> sil2100: also compiz gsettings isn't there yet
[07:07] <didrocks> so we need it :)
[07:07] <sil2100> didrocks: did the compiz release happen?
[07:07] <didrocks> no
[07:07] <didrocks> Mirv went on holidays before getting it done :(
[07:08] <didrocks> so in priority order I would say:
[07:08] <sil2100> Ouch, ok, we'll handle that then - but first the regressions I think?
[07:08] <didrocks> - unity fixes backported and unity SDRU
[07:08] <didrocks> yeah, in // with the SRU :)
[07:08] <didrocks> check with duflu if he's working on the latest bugs
[07:08] <didrocks> and ensure we really need the other merge fixes
[07:09] <didrocks> and meanwhile look at remaining MR not review for 5.0
[07:09] <didrocks> reviewed*
[07:09] <didrocks> sil2100: there are some emails on the PS ML about mandatory branches for the 5.0 unity SRU
[07:09] <sil2100> Aye aye, yessir :)
[07:09] <didrocks> so you can leverage both in parallel :)
[07:09] <didrocks> sil2100: good luck and… welcome back \o/
[07:09] <mhr3> sil2100, also, the failure to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity/update-core-preview-api/+merge/112756 needs to be looked at
[07:09] <mhr3> sil2100, and hello :)
[07:10] <sil2100> mhr3: hello ;) Ok, will look
[07:10] <sil2100> Good to be back \o/
[07:10] <didrocks> "on the road again!"
[07:11] <mhr3> road... to hell? :)
[07:12] <didrocks> heh ;)
[08:01] <MCR1> didrocks: Hi :) I would need your help x2 I guess. Do you have a minute ?
[08:01] <didrocks> MCR1: yeah?
[08:01] <didrocks> for your MR, we need tests :)
[08:01] <tbf> is the code style documented somewhere? any reason for method names starting with a upper case letter? seems uncommon.
[08:01] <MCR1> didrocks: Do you mean the one with the compression ?
[08:02] <didrocks> MCR1: well, for each new plugins :)
[08:02] <didrocks> for compiz
[08:02] <didrocks> for the compression, I don't think it's needed
[08:02] <didrocks> just get some designer's feedback
[08:03] <MCR1> didrocks: Why does this need designer feedback - I did not change one pixel ?
[08:04] <didrocks> MCR1: to ensure that there is no visible change at all
[08:04] <didrocks> seems that Cimi already tried what you did
[08:04] <didrocks> and saw a difference
[08:04] <didrocks> so I prefer they can reviewed, as seb told you on the MR :)
[08:06] <MCR1> didrocks: I can guarantee that no difference is visible, but I also can understand that you do not want to trust all those binaries ;), that is why I suggested someone could reproduce it by simply installing trimage and dropping all pngs in there...
[08:06] <didrocks> MCR1: yeah, please ensure you ping JohnLea when he's around or Cimi :)
[08:07] <MCR1> didrocks: ok.
[08:08] <MCR1> didrocks: Second question: I fixed a bitesize bug in font-manager: rn/font-manager/font-manager.fix-961034/+merge/114991
[08:08] <MCR1> sorry, https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/font-manager/font-manager.fix-961034/+merge/114991
[08:08] <didrocks> MCR1: oh nice! please subscribe the sponsoring team, so that today's patch pilot can look at it :)
[08:09] <MCR1> didrocks: Is this the Font Manager Team ?
[08:10] <didrocks> MCR1: no, I don't really know about upstream, I'm speaking about downstream here, as getting the patch into ubuntu :)
[08:10] <MCR1> didrocks: So who should I add to the reviewers ?
[08:12] <didrocks> MCR1: if you don't want to wait on upstream, please follow the ubuntu sponsorship process: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Patches
[08:12] <didrocks> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[08:13] <MCR1> didrocks: Thanx for the links - will save them and study those :)
[08:13] <didrocks> MCR1: yw ;) do not hesitate if you have any question!
[08:47] <didrocks> JohnLea: hey, how are you?
[08:54] <sil2100> seb128: hello!
[08:54] <seb128> sil2100, hey, how are you? had nice holidays?
[08:56] <sil2100> seb128: busy ones, but nice, thanks - and how are you?
[08:57] <seb128> sil2100, I'm good thanks
[08:59] <sil2100> seb128: I'm catching up on things right now - I saw an e-mail from Timo saying that some SRU (compiz? unity?) was in the process of being released
[08:59] <sil2100> Did any SRU besides the lenses got released?
[09:00] <sil2100> From the unity side?
[09:00] <seb128> sil2100, no
[09:00] <didrocks> sil2100: it's not really, that's what I pinged you this morning
[09:00]  * didrocks wasn't explicit enough maybe, but did a full summary at 9AM
[09:00] <seb128> sil2100, there is a need to redo a compiz update over the previous SRU one, a regression was detected (decorator segfault) which duflu fixed since
[09:00] <didrocks> seb128: already gave the full links this morning FYI :)
[09:01] <seb128> ok
[09:01] <seb128> sil2100, check what didrocks wrote to you I guess ;-)
[09:01] <didrocks> bug lists, branches to merge
[09:01] <sil2100> didrocks: ah, ok, since I just read an e-mail that stated that one of them was already pending for release, so I thought that at least something went in ;)
[09:01] <sil2100> seb128: ok, just making sure - thanks!
[09:01] <didrocks> sil2100: no, nothing since you last worked :(
[09:01] <seb128> yw!
[09:01] <seb128> welcome back to crazy unity world ;-)
[09:02] <didrocks> sil2100: I think popey also have the information about what happened and can give them to you :)
[09:02] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100: the music lens SRU got in
[09:02] <seb128> well it's in the queue
[09:02] <seb128> so one thing happened :p
[09:03] <didrocks> yeah, was mostly done when sil2100 was leaving as it's mostly the same than the release :p
[09:10] <didrocks> sil2100: also for compiz, I gave a full list to Mirv about commits that I think we should backport (it's on the ML I guess)
[09:14] <sil2100> I saw that e-mail indeed
[09:34] <jokerdino> hey guys o/
[09:35] <jokerdino> i am just feeling a little excited. i just submitted my first merge proposal for a bitesize bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/937334 let me know how to improve on that. Thanks again.
[09:36] <seb128> jokerdino, hey, well done!
[09:36] <jokerdino> thanks.
[09:36] <JohnLea> didrocks; hyia
[09:36] <jokerdino> i wasn't sure how it actually works. so, thought I would try first and learn from mistakes.
[09:37] <didrocks> hey JohnLea, how was your week-end?
[09:37] <JohnLea> didrocks; good but wet; summer here is terrible
[09:37] <JohnLea> didrocks; and yours?
[09:37] <seb128> jokerdino, can you do before,after screenshots? as commented on the bug that will need design input, see JohnLea's comment as well on the bug
[09:38] <jokerdino> oh sure. i have it.
[09:38] <seb128> jokerdino, adding a line will have an impact on the layout and size of the overlay
[09:38] <jokerdino> hm that's right.
[09:38] <jokerdino> but i couldn't see much obvious difference though
[09:38] <didrocks> JohnLea: was nice, enjoyed the national fest, fireworks… avoiding the rain :)
[09:39] <JohnLea> jokerdino; thanks for looking at this, email the screenshot to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:39] <seb128> can you add them to the bug as well?
[09:39] <jokerdino> alright. will do both.
[09:39] <didrocks> JohnLea: I wanted to have your input on bug #907464. I didn't think that design had to be involved as it really seem like a bug to me, but bilal asked for it :)
[09:41] <JohnLea> didrocks; I've updated the bug with all the correct statuses, bilal will now be happy ;-)  You were right, but better safe than sorry
[09:41] <didrocks> JohnLea: excellent! thanks :)
[09:42] <jokerdino> seb128, JohnLea: added; emailed
[09:42] <seb128> jokerdino, thanks
[09:46] <JohnLea> jokerdino; +1 from me, adding comment to this effect to the bug now.  Thanks for fixing ;-)  If you are ever looking for more bugs to fix ;-) , take a look at the list under the heading "Design changes signed off but not handed over" @ http://people.canonical.com/~platform/design/designer.html or
[09:46] <JohnLea> under heading "unity" @ http://people.canonical.com/~platform/design/upstream.html
[09:47] <jokerdino> will do more fixing in the future. thanks much for positive feedback :-D
[09:48] <JohnLea> jokerdino; np, ping me on IRC if you are looking at a bug and have any questions
[09:49] <jokerdino> sure sir.
[10:03] <MCR1> JohnLea: I would need your help too, I guess: https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-reduce-png-filesizes/+merge/110978
[10:28] <JohnLea> MCR1; looking now
[10:31] <MCR1> JohnLea: Thanks a lot. Unfortunately I have some more design decisions for you to make, just tell me when you are ready for those ;)
[10:32] <JohnLea> MCR1; as the assets will be visually unchanged by the proposed branch, no design signoff is needed.  It's purely a technical decision, so I'll point you back to Seb128.  For what it's worth it looks like a good change to me, but as it is not a user facing change it is outside of my remit
[10:32] <JohnLea> MCR1; what are the other questions, I'm ready ;-)
[10:32] <MCR1> JohnLea: Oh that are many. Where should I start ?
[10:33] <JohnLea> MCR1; start with the changes that are closest to landing ;-)
[10:34] <MCR1> JohnLea: Well, I would say that bug 1022743 is quite important.
[10:35] <MCR1> JohnLea: Imho the way Compiz/Unity share their shortcuts is currently very wrong creating multiple troubles.
[10:36] <JohnLea> MCR1; there is also the companion bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/775434
[10:37] <MCR1> JohnLea: I did not see that one, but from the title I have to agree. :)
[10:38] <JohnLea> MCR1; I was just discussing moving one shortcut from CCSM to this panel with popey this morning.  But really we want to get all the shortcuts defined in a single place, and almost all configurable.
[10:38] <MCR1> JohnLea: This is imho one of the most important problems we have. It is also a problem with the type of shortcuts.
[10:38] <JohnLea> (the 'almost' bit of the above sentence refers to things like the SUPER key which we might want to make configurable because of the complexity of what is bound to it
[10:39] <JohnLea> ^ 'not want' I meant
[10:40] <JohnLea> MCR1; are you volunteering to have a look at fixing this ;-)  If so the best way to start would be by pinging didrocks as he knows this area of code well, and will be ultimately responsible for accepting your patches
[10:41] <MCR1> JohnLea: A big problem is the type of shortcuts as Compiz should know and control all keys, otherwise this creates multiple problems...
[10:42] <JohnLea> MCR1; yes, and the Compiz shortcuts should be exposed through the 'keyboard shortcuts' panel.
[10:42] <JohnLea> which is missing atm
[10:43] <MCR1> JohnLea: Sure, I would like to fix that - and I think I would be capable to take a shot at it - I just need to find the commit, which transformed the Alt HUD key-shortcut from hardcoded to Compiz.
[10:44] <MCR1> JohnLea: And then imitate that for all the other keys ;)
[10:47] <JohnLea> MCR1; there is *a lot* of special behaviour around both the SUPER and ALT key, so I would start by exposing all the other keys, and then get to these last.  It might be that SUPER has to stay non-configurable, but the companion keys used with SUPER can be changed e.g SUPER+V could be changed to SUPER+Y, but not SHIFT+V.  You should see what I mean when you look at the code.  If we can get all the keys *other* than ALT and SUPER configurable and ex
[10:47] <JohnLea> posed in the 'keyboard shortcuts' overlay we will be doing well, and once that is done take a look at ALT
[10:48] <MCR1> JohnLea: ALT is already configurable afaik
[10:49] <MCR1> JohnLea: But I know what you mean - I am still in the process of trying to analyze all this code, but there is definitely room for improvements there
[10:49] <JohnLea> MCR1; cool, the more we can make configurable the better, perhaps it is just SUPER that will have to stay fixed in the first iteration of this improvement?
[10:52] <JohnLea> MCR1; basically the intent would be to make as many keyboard shortcuts as possible configurable and exposed in the keyboard shortcuts panel.  Another tricky one might be 'Ctrl + Super + Cursor down' ( see https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1jqeKtIJwqLtl58Wk_fqjr9Rrgxn9zsouCYOo-cZsLSE/edit?hl=en_GB ) which should perform different actions based on the state of the currently focused window.  Not implemented yet, but I think it is on
[10:52] <JohnLea> didrock's todo list?
[10:52] <MCR1> JohnLea: I am very glad that we agree 100% on this :) I will try my best to work on it, but I might need help of the guys who worked on that part of the code...
[10:53] <MCR1> JohnLea: I already talked with smspillaz about that problem, I guess with some hints from him (when he is back) we can get things done 8-)
[10:55] <JohnLea> MCR1; while we are talking, one other thing that needs to be added to the compiz keyboard shortcuts is the ability to bind two different shortcuts to the same action.  This would be very useful for supporting shortcuts that are depreciated or users are used to from other platforms in addition to the default shortcuts
[10:57] <JohnLea> MCR1; smspillaz will be away for another couple of weeks, didrocks is the person who should be able to help you out with any questions.
[10:57] <MCR1> JohnLea: Compiz is already capable of doing two different actionswith the same shortcut. It will warn you, but allows to do that - but I like your "two different shortcuts to the same action" idea also very much :)
[10:58] <JohnLea> MCR1; cool ;-)  I think there is some issue with the 'two different actions' because I asked smspillaz about it 2 or 3 months ago and he said it didn't work but would be easy to fix.
[10:58] <MCR1> JohnLea: Ok, then I'll nerve him. I am very satisfied that you agree on those hardcoded hell, because that is one of the most important problems.
[10:59] <MCR1> JohnLea: For smspillaz everything is easy to fix ;)
[10:59] <JohnLea> MCR1; I am very happy that you are taking a look at this, it is a bit of a neglected area in need of some rejuvenation.
[11:00] <MCR1> JohnLea: He is a coding genius. Do not expect my coding qualities to be even near his level ;)
[11:01] <JohnLea> MCR1; as long as your coding qualities are of a sufficient level to get your  code accepted by didrocks we are good ;-)
[11:02] <MCR1> JohnLea: We'll see ;)
[11:22] <API> didrocks, one thing, I have just read that thread about accessibility always on on GNOME 3.6
[11:22] <didrocks> API: yeah?
[11:22] <API> fwiw, the port to the new atk-bridge library is
[11:22] <API> was proposed to be merge
[11:22] <didrocks> I saw your branch, thanks :)
[11:22] <API> https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/a11y-a11y-always-on
[11:23] <API> ah ok
[11:23] <didrocks> let's wait on upstream to look at it :)
[11:23] <API> it was about that, not sure if alex launi is stil reviewing unity branches
[11:23] <API> wait on upstream?
[11:23] <didrocks> API: btw, what's the actual status of a11y in unity?
[11:23] <didrocks> API: well, the other dx guys ;)
[11:23] <didrocks> API: is it full, what's missing,
[11:23] <API> didrocks, so it is ok on setting alex launi to review the branch?
[11:23] <API> didrocks, about the status
[11:24] <API> at this moment my old extra-a11y ppa is not required
[11:24] <didrocks> API: no, just set the unity-team as reviewer
[11:24] <API> as all the branches get merged
[11:24] <API> didrocks, ok, will change the reviewer
[11:24] <didrocks> API: so, is it fully accessible?
[11:24] <API> resuming a11y status
[11:24] <didrocks> yep :)
[11:24] <API> I reviewed the status
[11:24] <API> launcher works
[11:24] <API> dash and alt+f2 also works (with some "buts")
[11:25] <API> alt+tab switcher changed a little since the last time I worked on that
[11:25] <API> so it would be required a review
[11:25] <API> panel service still works
[11:25] <API> so in summary, there are stuff working
[11:25] <API> but still room for improvement
[11:25] <didrocks> API: so, it's usable for a daily usage in your opinion?
[11:33] <API> didrocks, sorry, adding a comment to the merge review and adding unity-team to the reviewer list
[11:33] <didrocks> API: no worry ;)
[11:33] <API> well, unity is usable for a daily if no other option is available
[11:33] <API> but as I said, there are some "buts" and some new stuff since the last time I worked on that
[11:33] <didrocks> ok, thanks for the status API :)
[11:34] <API> so I guess that using it daily will get people frustrated
[11:34] <API> as there are other options as xfce, gnome-shell, and still unity2d
[11:35] <didrocks> API: possibly, yeah…
[11:51] <TheMuso> c
[12:00] <sil2100> didrocks: so that you're up-to-date - I just built the new unity 6.0 regression fixes packages and will test those, and in the meantime I am also preparing MRQ branches for compiz SRU with some (most) of the commits you marked in your e-mail
[12:25] <didrocks> sil2100: great great! :)
[12:28] <sil2100> didrocks: some of the commits you pointed at are already merged into the 0.9.7 source branch btw. ;)
[12:29] <didrocks> sil2100: great, but we aren't basing from the branch, isn't it?
[12:29] <didrocks> sil2100: IIRC, you added patches manually?
[12:30] <sil2100> didrocks: well, I was cherry-picking every fix that went into 0.9.7 branch earlier - not sure about now, since Timo was doing the patches last week
[12:30] <didrocks> ok
[12:31] <sil2100> Since it's not so easy as with the new packaging branches you made :(
[12:31] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks for the notice :)
[12:31] <didrocks> yeah
[12:31] <sil2100> With the new one it's just a lazy bzr merge neede ;)
[12:31] <didrocks> that's why now that upstream is in bzr, I switched to that :)
[12:31] <sil2100> *needed
[12:31] <didrocks> wasn't possible when they were in git :)
[12:44] <sil2100> didrocks: btw. since I see that Timo ported as a distro-patch the fix for LP: #994841
[12:44] <sil2100> didrocks: I remember you said that it's not necessary before, since it's just related to tests?
[12:49] <didrocks> sil2100: indeed, it's not necessary to us
[12:50] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, so I remove it
[12:50] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[13:17] <sil2100> didrocks: regarding the compiz SRU, I'd like Sam to approve one MRQ before setting it to approved - since no one from the compiz team yet approved it, although they did comment that it seems ok
[13:17] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/compiz/fix-1019337.2/+merge/114597
[13:17] <sil2100> And it's a very important branch
[13:17] <didrocks> sil2100: sam isn't around for some weeks
[13:17] <didrocks> sil2100: so you need to find someone else I'm afraid
[13:18] <didrocks> the code is fine. However, I'm not sure it's fixing the issue
[13:18] <didrocks> but this code can't harm
[13:18] <sil2100> didrocks: the previous MRQ that went already in was supposed to fix it, this is a follow-up more or less
[13:19] <sil2100> didrocks: you think I can approve it?
[13:19] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, I can only say the this code makes sense and can do no harm :)
[13:19] <didrocks> so yeah, you can approve it I guess
[13:19] <sil2100> Thanks \o/
[13:19] <seb128> sil2100, didrocks: the bug points to a ppa and 3 users confirmed the ppa fixes the issue
[13:19] <seb128> not sure what commit Mirv's included in there though
[13:19] <seb128> but it's easy to check out
[13:20] <didrocks> ok, good ;)
[13:20] <didrocks> thanks seb128
[13:20] <seb128> yw
[13:20] <didrocks> sil2100: go on then ^
[13:21] <sil2100> seb128: I have the packaging branch, so I see that the 2 fixes in mention are in, so indeed
[13:21] <sil2100> seb128: thanks for the notice!
[13:21] <seb128> didrocks, yw!
[13:22] <didrocks> seb128: completion issue infected you now? :)
[13:22] <seb128> sil2100, yw!
[13:22] <seb128> didrocks, it seems so, though I can't blame mines on my IRC client ;-)
[13:22] <didrocks> heh
[13:24] <sil2100> 6.0 regression fixes in trunk, cherry-picking
[13:27] <sil2100> didrocks: lp:~sil2100/unity/ubuntu_quantal_fixes
[13:28] <didrocks> sil2100: sweet! already tested?
[13:29] <sil2100> didrocks: for now I tested if the fixes work, but I can perform manual-tests or similar if needed
[13:29] <sil2100> didrocks: should I create a doc for it as always and proceed with all the tests, or just this is sufficient?
[13:30] <didrocks> sil2100: just create a small doc telling that the fixes work and you didn't notice any regression
[13:30] <didrocks> sil2100: just do the tests that seems sensible to those fixes
[13:31] <sil2100> didrocks: ACK! Proceeding with that in a moment though, I'll just finish some compiz bzr'ing
[13:32] <didrocks> sure :)
[13:32] <didrocks> sil2100: the branch looks good, I'm downgrading compiz (as I tested latest trunk) and rebuilding unity
[13:51] <sil2100> didrocks: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1UsC-oNhBmxHTi-2caZHaZ3YiyUA5SR7IqofdoBhgjRc/edit#
[13:52] <didrocks> sil2100: on a meeting, back afterwards :)
[13:52] <didrocks> sil2100: it's running fine btw :)
[13:52] <sil2100> didrocks: I also proposed some fixes and the .2 branch to lp:compiz-core/0.9.7 if anything
[13:52] <sil2100> didrocks: so we should be ready for compiz SRU tomorrow \o/
[13:53] <sil2100> didrocks: good luck on the meeting
[13:54] <sil2100> brb in a moment, storm
[14:24] <sil2100> Back
[15:02] <sil2100> didrocks: can't notice any regressions in the new 6.0 branch
[15:02] <didrocks> sil2100: neither do I
[15:02] <didrocks> sil2100: I'll upload it I guess :)
[15:02] <sil2100> didrocks: \o/ thank you
[15:02] <didrocks> sil2100: thanks you! :)
[15:02] <didrocks> now compiz SRU? ;)
[15:02] <didrocks> and unity one?
[15:03] <sil2100> didrocks: as for compiz SRU - we'll wait for Daniel to be back tomorrow to comment on the 2-3 additional fixes I asked for merging - if he says that these are valid SRU commits and get approved, we're almost done I think
[15:03] <sil2100> didrocks: I prepared the packaging branch with updated patches
[15:04] <didrocks> ok, the branches on the ML are all merged?
[15:04] <didrocks> there is the software-center one
[15:04] <didrocks> and the first super + W IIRC
[15:05] <sil2100> didrocks: you mean the two unity ones for the software center? Not yet merged, but I think we can approve those
[15:05] <sil2100> didrocks: the super + W fix is still a '?'
[15:05] <didrocks> sil2100: there are 2 things about it
[15:05] <didrocks> sil2100: there is the bug
[15:05] <didrocks> about "windows flying away"
[15:06] <didrocks> this is a just a bug and should be fixed
[15:06] <didrocks> the second is under discussion :)
[15:06] <sil2100> Ah, ok ;)
[15:07] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, I'll look at this windows flying away bug then
[15:07] <sil2100> didrocks: what about the software center fixes for unity? In your opinion, can those get into 5.0?
[15:08] <didrocks> sil2100: yeah, once properly reviewed
[15:09] <sil2100> Orajt
[15:10] <sil2100> Shit, storm again, brb in a moment (again)
[15:10] <sil2100> eh
[15:28] <sil2100> Trevinho, andyrock, bschaefer: anyone of you around by any chance?
[15:28]  * Trevinho present
[15:29] <sil2100> Trevinho: are you particulary busy right now ;) ?
[15:29] <Trevinho> sil2100: not yet
[15:29] <sil2100> Since we would need someone from unity to review https://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/unity/5.0series-sru-software-center-integration-fixes/+merge/110214 and https://code.launchpad.net/~gary-lasker/unity/software-center-launcher-integration-tests-for-5.0/+merge/114241
[15:29] <sil2100> As we would like those to land in the nearest SRU
[15:29] <Trevinho> ok, I'll check them
[15:29] <bschaefer> sil2100, im around
[15:29] <sil2100> bschaefer: ^
[15:29]  * bschaefer got randomly logged out
[15:29] <sil2100> :)
[15:30] <sil2100> Trevinho, bschaefer: just looking for someone who might test these MRQs (or one MRQ, as the other are just tests), browse through the code and approve if all is OK
[15:31] <bschaefer> sil2100, yeah I can give them a test :), my day just started
[15:31] <sil2100> Excellent
[15:31] <sil2100> Thanks
[15:31] <bschaefer> np!
[15:44] <andyrock> sil2100, pong
[15:51] <sil2100> andyrock: hi! Trevinho and bschaefer are already dealing with my problem :)
[15:52] <andyrock> sil2100, ok... I was watching the tv for le tour de france :)
[16:01] <sil2100> Ok everyone, need to jump out to the bank now and for dinner - see you tomorrow!
[16:14] <andyrock> om26er, can you update the status of this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/962395
[16:14] <andyrock> I mean adding unity 5.0 and Ubuntu (Precise)
[16:14] <andyrock> :)
[16:15] <om26er> andyrock, looking
[16:17] <andyrock> om26er, thank you
[16:17] <om26er> andyrock, done ;-)


[05:44] <mlankhorst> g'morning
[06:15] <tjaalton> boo, mesa 9.1 crashes nouveau on suspend
[06:16] <mlankhorst> I'm not sure that's mesa's fault..
[06:17] <mlankhorst> what exactly is the error?
[06:18] <mlankhorst> you could try [PATCH] drm/nouveau: idle all channels before suspending -- it's a hack but meh
[06:19] <tjaalton> bug 1168900
[06:19] <tjaalton> i should be able to repro it
[06:26] <tjaalton> crashes with old mesa too
[06:26] <tjaalton> so not due to _this_ update, phew
[06:26] <tjaalton> :)
[06:26] <tjaalton> looks exa related here as well
[06:29] <tjaalton> hmm, I'll try with current kernel
[06:30] <mlankhorst> I had the same issue regardless of mesa
[06:31] <tjaalton> same thing with 3.9rc6
[06:31] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah maintainer nacked my patch
[06:31] <mlankhorst> you could try with it
[06:31] <tjaalton> you have a kernel built with it?-)
[06:31] <mlankhorst> not really
[06:32] <mlankhorst> but you only need to rebuild nouveau, make drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko
[06:38] <tjaalton> alright, seems to build
[06:43] <tjaalton> but doesn't load
[06:43] <tjaalton> I'll just build the whole kernel
[06:49] <mlankhorst> I saw some suspend failures on mailing list that indicated the channels were not halted correctly, and that it was a cause of failure
[06:58] <mlankhorst> or at least I was guessing based o nevidence :-)
[07:11] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: nope, still crashes
[07:11] <mlankhorst> booo
[07:12] <tjaalton> there seem to be several such reports against raring
[07:15] <mlankhorst> unsurprisingly, linux 3.7 and later had a drm kernel module rewrite for nouveau
[07:15] <tjaalton> I'll try 3.6
[07:25] <tjaalton> still broken
[07:31] <tjaalton> duped some with bug #1084960
[07:32] <mlankhorst> I can actually suspend on my 480
[07:32] <mlankhorst> but prolonged suspend dies
[07:33] <tjaalton> suspend works, resume doesn't :)
[07:35] <mlankhorst> resume works for me on short suspends
[07:56] <tjaalton> sigh, we still have nvidia-experimental on raring..
[07:56] <tjaalton> -*
[08:01] <mlankhorst> :>
[08:01] <mlankhorst> weird, my config says one thing, but vmlinux indicated another
[08:08] <mlankhorst> oh make clean doesn't clean everything, grr
[12:37] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: I may have a fix for the tegra now
[12:38] <mlankhorst> oops, still missing some part :P
[12:59] <tjaalton> ok..
[13:04] <mlankhorst> caused the event queue to overflow
[13:09] <mlankhorst> blergh dno what the right solution would be, the things related to touch are way too complicated >:(
[13:12] <mlankhorst> seems the easiest way to reproduce it is to hit the icon in top left, then immediately start a dragging movement, with valgrind enabled it will crash
[13:18] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, want to get the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwacom/+bug/1167504 in Debian and then sync the package over so we stay in sync ?
[13:22] <tjaalton> seb128: yeah, sounds like a plan
[13:23] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks
[13:25] <tjaalton> there was a patch upstream already
[13:25] <tjaalton> not in git yet though but I'll steal it
[13:26] <mlankhorst> push it upstream? :P
[13:26] <tjaalton> it's on git.gnome.or
[13:26] <tjaalton> g
[13:27] <tjaalton> seb128: I'll upload it later today or early tomorrow so we can still sync it for raring
[13:28] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks
[13:28] <seb128> tjaalton, I will assign to you/unsubscribe sponsors
[13:28] <tjaalton> assigned already
[13:28] <tjaalton> and poof sponsors gone
[13:29] <seb128> ;-)
[13:29] <mlankhorst> ah right, I only have access to fd.org
[14:18] <mlankhorst> oh wow..
[14:28] <mlankhorst> *motion_event = *event; I suddenly get why that line was wrong ._.
[18:28] <sarnold> my thinkpad's brightness keys don't work well in raring; another lenovo and an acer user reported the same thing on my bug report. I might have mis-filed it in the first place, and recently heard that gnome-settings-daemon might be the proper target -- but got other advice to come here and ask :)
[18:29] <sarnold> so, should this bug be re-assigned somwhere else? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1156477
[18:38] <jwi> sarnold: it's a firmware issue actually (at least the thinkpad one) - duplicate of bug 1098216
[18:40] <jwi> try pressing the brightness keys ten times in a row, just for giggles?
[18:40] <sarnold> jwi: wow, thanks!
[18:42] <sarnold> jwi: the results depends upon the brightness setting I set with /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight-helper --set-brightness -- if I set it to '90', no amount of key banging changes the brightness again.
[18:43] <sarnold> jwi: if I set it to '70', the brightness changes quite a lot, but I can't get it to maximum brightness, even with my best key-banging
[18:46] <jwi> sarnold: so it's even weirder than I thought it was. thanks lenovo.
[18:47] <sarnold> jwi: no kidding.


[01:01] <kenvandine> Saviq, sure
[01:02] <kenvandine> Saviq, i retried amd64 and i386
[01:03] <kenvandine> hope they pass this time :)
[07:11] <Saviq> sil2100, hey, can you please recycle http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/yakkety/update_excuses.html#unity8 for us
[08:07] <sil2100> Saviq: done
[08:08] <Saviq> tx
[09:18] <dbarth> sil2100, jibel: there's a new oxide arm64 build available in silo 52 now; just that arch
[09:22] <sil2100> \o/
[17:52] <bregma> trainguards, can you add people to the group that can create and land tickets?
[17:53] <robru> bregma: only if they're canonical employees
[17:54] <bregma> robru, yes, it's larryprice who has needs
[17:54] <bregma> urges even
[17:55] <davmor2> bregma: you're not helping his case
[17:55] <robru> bregma: is that his lp name?
[17:55] <bregma> robru, yes
[17:55] <robru> Ok one sec
[17:58] <robru> bregma: ok send him to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess and tell him to forward all questions to me
[17:58] <bregma> robru, thanks once again
[17:59] <robru> bregma: you're welcome
[17:59] <robru> Brb
[19:38] <robru> man I keep hearing phantom IRC pings, I must be losing my mind
[20:49] <robru> larryprice: why did you regenerate diffs?    Had no effect
[20:50] <larryprice> robru, i wanted to know what exactly that button would do?
[20:50] <larryprice> robru, sorry if it caused you extra work
[20:50] <larryprice> robru, it's my first time
[20:52] <robru> larryprice: no extra work for me just making sure you know what you're doing. The build job generated diffs at the end but in your case there's nothing to diff
[20:52] <larryprice> robru, thanks for the clarification
[20:53] <robru> larryprice: you're welcome, don't hesitate if you have any questions


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[10:13] <diogenes_> Velizar Peshev, format pendrive as fat32, assign boot flag and extract the iso into pendrive
[10:13] <diogenes_> should work
[16:51] <coderphive> where is that bot linked to?
[17:49] <Gregor3000> hi, i got a fresh brand new hard disk on an old PC as i plan to move to Kubuntu from Windows XP (it will be dual boot), but all USB live making programs give me an error on boot. i tried linuxliveUSB creator (LiLi), YUMI, Unetbootin.
[17:49] <Gregor3000> Failed to load ldlinux.c32 or SYSLINUX: No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found are the error codes
[17:50] <Gregor3000> what happened with USB making apps? they all used to just work.
[17:50] <Gregor3000> the oS is 18.04.1 64 bit Kubuntu, i checked the hashes and downloaded the image twice. it is a good image
[17:50] <Gregor3000> would going with a DVD instead work?
[18:00] <diogenes_> yep try dvd
[18:20] <Gregor3000> thnx will burn it later and hopefully i get it to boot and install tomorrow.


[02:32] <ph> darkxst, hey man r u here? Just wondering if rhythmbox is working for you on 14.04?
[18:44] <sbaugh> i'm sure this is an easy question - I added the gnome3-team/gnome3-next ppa and updated to GNOME 3.10, but now there's no battery icon in the system status bar
[18:44] <sbaugh> how can i get one back?
[18:45] <Greylocks> you might d/load an extension, but it has been removed in 3.10
[18:45] <sbaugh> yikes, so how am i supposed to see my current battery time?
[18:45] <Greylocks> I think if you click on the icon on the upper right it's in the menu now
[18:45] <sbaugh> nope, it's not
[18:45] <Greylocks> doh
[18:46] <Greylocks> maybe in the tweak tool...not sure I'm on 3.8 at the moment
[18:47] <sbaugh> it definitely shows in the screenshots here... https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.10/
[18:47] <sbaugh> hmm
[18:47] <sbaugh> ah!
[18:47] <sbaugh> that's neat
[18:47] <sbaugh> it disappeared because my battery was full and my charger was plugged in
[18:49] <Greylocks> lol okay good to know


[08:05] <Ryan45> hey transhumanist
[08:29] <Transhumanist> Hey there!!
[13:24] <dwatkins> cat versus bat: http://i.imgur.com/2l6Aq.gif
[13:28] <dwatkins> lol wrong channel, sorry
[15:23] <SpartanF31> hallo!
[15:26] <netcurli> hallo
[15:28] <SpartanF31> is known about the date will be sold the first terminal using ubuntu, and is true that the demo shown running ubuntu-phon was a Nexus?
[15:30] <netcurli> read the topic and go also to the wiki page linked there
[15:44] <SpartanF31> yea! it was the nexus 4
[15:44] <SpartanF31> the ubuntu phone. I truly like it.
[15:56] <ubuntubhoy> SpartanF31: the one they demoed was the Galaxy Nexus, not the N4
[19:33] <twobitsprite> ok, I've read the FAQ on this, but just wondering if there's any new info on this (as I'm sure this is a quickly developing area)... any news on whether or not we'll have an image for galaxy s2/3 phones and if so, any idea when?
[19:39] <k1l_> you saw the /topic ?
[19:40] <k1l_> and the dev-phone is the galaxy nexus. so that image will be delivered for testing purposes at that mentioned time. what devices besides the gnex will get a testing image is not mentioned so far
[21:06] <israeldahl> QML question: Anyone know if the default ItemStyle.class: "new-tabs" colour can be changed to something else?  Can it be changed on certain events?
[21:07] <sladen> israeldahl: at the worst, if you grab the source for the component that you're using, it will have a changelog history and "bzr blame" will tell you the name of the developer behind it
[21:09] <israeldahl> sladen: OK.. bzr blame... nice :)  I might poke around here... the qml I import " Ubuntu.Components 0.1" should be here somewhere... just have to go looking I guess
[21:15] <sladen> israeldahl: qt-components-ubuntu ?
[21:17] <sladen> israeldahl: seems to be  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/files
[21:17] <sladen> israeldahl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk
[21:17] <sladen> israeldahl: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[21:22] <israeldahl> sladen: I'm looking through the code now to see if I spot anything.  Thank you very much
[21:28] <sladen> israeldahl: try  bzoltan  on here in about 12 hours (generally around Monday-Friday daytime UTC)
[21:30] <israeldahl> sladen: I didn't find anything that seemed to contain it... I looked in all the ones I thought were obvious... I also check the c plugins... I wont be able to contact bzoltan at that time...
[21:31] <israeldahl> sladen: I guess I can just deal with the grey colours for now....  it does look a bit bad... but I have some other more vital things to finish in the program.... just thought I might ask.
[21:32] <sladen> israeldahl: which component exactly is it?
[21:32] <sladen> is it  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Tabs.qml ?
[21:32] <sladen> which which case  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/annotate/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/Tabs.qml
[21:33] <sladen> shows that the main author is <tpeeters>
[21:34] <israeldahl> Yeah... but it seems   ItemStyle.class: "new-tabs"; is the most important part of the code.  It is the "new-tabs" bit that makes it all work.  Tabs is the oldschool non flickable kind.
[21:34] <israeldahl> sladen: I am not sure where ItemStyle.class is contained... I thought it would be in Tabs.qml
[21:35] <israeldahl> sladen: maybe in the theming things... I'll keep looking
[21:36] <sladen> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/files/head:/themes/Ambiance/qmltheme/  There are three files named "NewTab*"
[21:38] <israeldahl> sladen: Yes... that is it!!  Thanks
[21:41] <israeldahl> sladen: ah.. it is an image.... artwork/background-paper.png not a colour... I guess that answers part of my question.
[21:58] <israeldahl> sladen: it seems that changing that will require rewriting too much code for what I am doing right now....  maybe it will be in a future version... or I will get the time to re write the code to be able to use a colour instead of an image...  Thanks for your help!


[15:32] <mup> Bug #2022084 opened: secure boot enabled on RHEL image fails to boot local on 2nd reboot after deploy <bug-council> <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022084>
[15:44] <mup> Bug #2022084 changed: secure boot enabled on RHEL image fails to boot local on 2nd reboot after deploy <bug-council> <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022084>
[15:47] <mup> Bug #2022084 opened: secure boot enabled on RHEL image fails to boot local on 2nd reboot after deploy <bug-council> <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022084>
[15:50] <mup> Bug #2022084 changed: secure boot enabled on RHEL image fails to boot local on 2nd reboot after deploy <bug-council> <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022084>
[15:53] <mup> Bug #2022084 opened: secure boot enabled on RHEL image fails to boot local on 2nd reboot after deploy <bug-council> <cpe-onsite> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022084>


[01:42] <JanC> several i386-only video drivers don't work half of the time anyway...
[01:43] <JanC> because of broken video BIOS'es with no updates available (anymore), etc.
[01:46] <JanC> SiS being a good example
[14:17] <cristian_c> hi
[14:18] <cristian_c> about regression I talked here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972604
[14:19] <cristian_c> I tested the last test kernel and I reported results a monthnago
[14:19] <cristian_c> month ago
[14:21] <cristian_c> where can I find the upstream revert request?


[02:24] <r_rios> Hello. After some update (I think), my cursor is "jiggling" in some situations. Sometimes it's when it changes (like when I move it over the edge of a window), sometimes it's out of the blue. Anyone else experiencing the same problems
[02:24] <r_rios> ?
[02:39] <Guest88107> I don't know why people use this.
[07:29] <Doyle> Where can I find qt 5.5?
[07:29] <Doyle> is there a ppa?
[07:40] <prillian5> 15.04, if I try to upgrade some packeges via Muon Update-Manager, I got a Message: An error occurred while applying canges:
[07:41] <prillian5> No other info. If I try to click on "Details"-Button, nothing happend
[07:41] <prillian5> Same, if I try to install additional flash-package (suggestion in Kicker to add it as enhancement for firefox)
[07:41] <prillian5> How to fix this bug?+
[07:43] <prillian5> If I press the install-button again, (in Muon update manager), I got the message inside of muon, that my software is up to date, last check 4 Seconds ago.
[07:56] <valorie> prillian5: you can try in a konsole: sudo apt install -f
[07:56] <valorie> which -f mean fix any broken packages
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:14] <prillian5> valorie: Thank you. I know this. The point is, that there is no error-Message on muon-updater. It's a bug
[08:14] <valorie> prillian5: please file a bug
[08:15] <valorie> `ubuntu-bug muon-updater` in the cli
[08:18] <prillian5> have done now. But the bug-process don't ask me for additional information. Hope this fit the needs for the bughunters :)
[08:18] <lordievader> Didn't the launchpad page open?
[08:19] <prillian5> ah, didn't see, he opend a browser-window
[08:19] <prillian5> btw: how can I set the focus on windows, if new opend?
[08:20] <prillian5> Since 15.04, windows seems not to focus (specialy chrome, if there was open only a new tab in an existing chrome-process)
[08:24] <prillian5> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1477003
[08:30] <aitchnyu> Hey guys, me and my friend installed 15.04. He was annoyed with wallet and fumbled. He then purged kwalletmanager. He is now unable to connect to wifi as kded5 still asks for wallet password. He has restarted
[08:34] <lordievader> aitchnyu: You can give your wallet a blank password, it won't ask you for the password that way.
[08:35] <aitchnyu> lordvader: he gets an error about incorrect password, and he has PURGED kwallermanager
[08:36] <lordievader> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet
[08:37] <gf_> good day! pls, I need help with HDMI sound configuration. I can play sound with aplay, but no sound in KDE.
[08:38] <lordievader> gf_: Is pavucontrol installed?
[08:38] <aitchnyu> lordievader: that worked! Thanks!
[08:39] <lordievader> aitchnyu: Good to hear :)
[08:39] <gf_> lordievader: how do I find it out?
[08:41] <gf_> lordievader: searching in Muon Discover: PulseAudio Volume Control -- not installed
[08:41] <lordievader> gf_: dpkg -l|grep pavucontrol
[08:41] <lordievader> Ah, well install it.
[08:42] <gf_> lordievader: ok, standby
[08:43] <gf_> lordievader: pavucontrol is installed now by Muon
[08:45] <lordievader> Okay, open it and route all the sources towards your hdmi audio.
[08:45] <Mirosenpai> Hello. I hava a freash intsall of a kubuntu desktop. I am attempting to add a .desktop file for a program that is started by double clicking a binary file. First of all, I wish to place the .desktop file locally for the use in the ~/.local/share/applications folder. The applications directory, however, does not exist. Even after i create it manually and place the .desktop file inside, the application is not found when I search f
[08:46] <Mirosenpai> Has anyone expereineced a simillar issue?
[08:48] <gf_> lordievader: okay, standby
[08:50] <gf_> lordievader: I have the GF119 HDMI Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Port: HDMI / Display Port 2 (plugged in)
[08:50] <Mirosenpai> Hello. I hava a freash intsall of a kubuntu desktop. I am attempting to add a .desktop file for a program that is started by double clicking a binary file. First of all, I wish to place the .desktop file locally for the use in the ~/.local/share/applications folder. The applications directory, however, does not exist. Even after i create it manually and place the .desktop file inside, the application is not found when I search f
[08:51] <lordievader> !patience | Mirosenpai
[08:55] <gf_> lordievader: changed the preferred output in system settings --> problem solved. thank you!
[08:56] <lordievader> gf_: No problem ;)
[09:18] <aitchnyu> I am playing a Udemy video on firefox:  <video src="https://redacted.cloudfront.net/WebHD_720p.mp4?>. Whenever I open a new video or seek a playing video, a sound output "CubebUtils Audiostream" with firefox logo sets itself to a very low value
[09:18] <aitchnyu> each time I seek, I have to set the volume higher
[09:34] <shahrukh> can I share a blog post ?
[09:40] <lordievader> artisanIndia: Err, why?
[09:40] <artisanIndia> just to have some reads
[09:40] <artisanIndia> I am going through a competition within my collegues
[09:43] <yossarianuk> this isn't directly involved in the kubuntu desktop - but you guys may know...
[09:43] <lordievader> artisanIndia: Better post it in #kubuntu-offtopic if it has nothing to do with Kubuntu support.
[09:44] <yossarianuk> If there a way to audit existing  linuxuser passwords? - i.e to check the strength, etc ?
[09:45] <artisanIndia> ok
[09:45] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Pam can do that on creation. Not sure if you can do so after the fact. Hashes are kind of useless for that.
[09:49] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thanks - i've seen about using cracklib/pam to enforce strong new passwords..
[09:49] <lordievader> That, yes.
[10:21] <Mirosenpai> Hello. I hava a freash intsall of a kubuntu desktop. I am attempting to add a .desktop file for a program that is started by double clicking a binary file. First of all, I wish to place the .desktop file locally for the use in the ~/.local/share/applications folder. The applications directory, however, does not exist. Even after i create it manually and place the .desktop file inside, the application is not found when I search f
[10:47] <prillian5> is there a plasmoid for 15.04 for show left disk space
[11:55] <aitchnyu> I am playing a Udemy video on firefox:  <video src="https://redacted.cloudfront.net/WebHD_720p.mp4?>. Whenever I open a new video or seek a playing video, a sound output "CubebUtils Audiostream" with firefox logo sets itself to a very low value. Each time I seek, I have to set the volume higher
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:14] <PerdidoNaLuaaa> and after this?
[14:42] <m_tadeu> hi...my plasmashell is totally frozen for a few hours....what can I do to see what's wrong?
[14:46] <s_20> well.. have you tried turning it off and on again?
[14:47] <m_tadeu> the same thing is happening since yesterday....killing it, rebooting always falls in the same situation
[14:51] <desttinghim> Hello?
[16:13] <knro_> How do I get the _latest_ KDE in Kubuntu? is it kubuntu backports?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> knro_, do you mean plasma5/KF5 desktop etc?
[16:16] <knro_> BluesKaj: yes
[16:32] <yofel> knro_: yes, that's ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports which will give you plasma 5.3.1 for vivid. kf5 5.10 and plasma 5.3.2 are WIP
[16:33] <knro_> yofel: Why not 5.3.2 for vivid as well since it is backports?
[16:35] <yofel> knro_: that depends on kf5 5.10, and they're both not done yet
[16:36] <knro_> yofel: ok thanks, I just finished upgrading, let me restart and hopefully nothing broke.
[16:38] <vivid> good luck, plasma5 totally isnt ready for daily use yet : (
[17:26] <ayden> hi
[17:26] <ayden> Using konversation?
[17:29] <excognac> hi all. my laptop (acer i3, 4gb ram* is severly slow. I know I have m,any bad sectors on HDD, will run testdisk soon. Any easy method to test other hardware like motherboard?
[18:35] <Kirano> Will qt5.5 comeback to 15.04 or 15.10
[18:48] <kiranos> did anyone answer about qt 5.5 beeing made available on either 15.04 or 15.10 ?
[18:48] <kiranos> sorry got disconnected
[19:12] <DaBrondo> Quick question:  I've followed the Kubuntu turmoil a bit but I assumed it was still moving forward -- is this true?  There hasn't been any nightly builds since the 2nd ?
[19:20] <genii> DalekSec: According to the kubuntu-devel mailing list latest, they are working on porting stuff right now to GCC5, which is proving problemmatic
[19:22] <genii> Whups. misdirect.
[22:36] <diego_> Hello, I'm looking for help to fix a bug that has already been reported regarding Okular.  I'm having trouble following the fix.  Can someone help?