[08:59] <murderslastcrow> Ah, they have those? Maybe I should've found that out earlier. Eh, guess I'll just get on eBay for an explicitly Linux-compatible one, without a need for firmware loading, because I'm not gonna' go back to 32-bit over this.
[09:00] <tyler_d4> how would I go about auto-starting a raid array created using palimpsest?
[09:02] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis: and for FAT32?
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> CaptainTrek:  change ntfs-3g to vfat i belive
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> !vfat
[09:03] <CaptainTrek> leave everything else the same?  dump = 0, pass = 0?
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> check the docs out to see what youmay want to change.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> Your needs may differ from mine.
[09:03]  * sangho 후후
[09:05] <CaptainTrek> what the...
[09:05] <pkkm__> What is the name of GNOME sound converter?
[09:05] <CaptainTrek> its not even detecting the CD drive!
[09:05] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis:  ^^^
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> i dident take it
[09:05] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis:  is a reboot needed?
[09:05] <overmind> pkkm__: Sound converter? You mean ffmpeg + winff?
[09:05] <CaptainTrek> perhaps THAT'S the issue?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> CaptainTrek:  i have no idea what you are doing exactly
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> CaptainTrek:  fstab changes to NOT take affect as soon as you edit the file..
[09:06] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis:  i turn on the system: it stops automounting devices
[09:06] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis:  nautilus doesnt even see the devices, only Filesystem
[09:06] <pkkm__> overmind, I remember there was a simple sound converter with one toolbar and few buttons on it.
[09:06] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis:  is something seriously borked...?
[09:06] <deostroll> i have a slow internet connection...i am downloading something using torrent & apt-get. The latter stalls inspite of setting my torrent to download @ 1kbps...why?
[09:06] <ltibor65> Hi! Please help! 1. I installed Xubuntu 10.04. Where can I set to see my photo in login windoow? 2. I want to run a firewall. Where to place the script file to run at startup?
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> Theres been some bugs with gnome failing to automount removeabel media. from what ive seen in the forums and beta. but ive not  seen the issue lately
[09:07] <overmind> pkkm__: Well, winff (depends of ffmpeg) converts sound and video, I think you can use it too
[09:07] <CaptainTrek> Dr_Willis: this only started happening within the past few hours
[09:07] <CaptainTrek> it USED to work
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> ltibor65:  in that Me Menu at the top right.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> ltibor65:  click on the box at the vbery top of themenu. it lets you pick an image
[09:07] <pkkm__> overmind, nvm, I found it - soundconverter
[09:08] <overmind> ltibor65: sudo apt-get install firestarter (it will start firewall wizard)
[09:10] <TwoshedsJackson> ltibor65, Linux is automatically using a firewall. You can configure it by installing "firestarter" for example
[09:10] <deostroll> i have a slow internet connection...i am downloading something using torrent & apt-get. The latter stalls inspite of setting my torrent to download @ 1kbps...why?
[09:10] <ltibor65> But I have a firewall script
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> deostroll:  so its fast if you turn the torrent off?
[09:11] <deostroll> Dr_Willis, yes
[09:11] <TwoshedsJackson> ltibor65, can you pastebin this script?
[09:12] <Semperfi30> Hello
[09:12] <tristan3199> using kde and curious what the default mail program is for gnome.. i cant remember the name... not emapthy IM the other one up there in the envolope
[09:13] <Semperfi30> Is this the right place to come for Ubuntu Support? Or is there a specific Support channel
[09:13] <tristan3199> evilution?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  'official ubuntu support channel' is here.
[09:13] <ltibor65> TwoshedsJackson, you can download it at: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/firetero.html
[09:13] <Semperfi30> Cool :)
[09:13] <deostroll> Dr_Willis, well not exactly but at least the apt session resumes gracefully
[09:13] <tristan3199> how do i spell this... evelution
[09:13] <thatdudematt> hey
[09:13] <Semperfi30> Is there some way I can talk to someone in a private window about my issues?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  you should at least state the issue first
[09:14] <pcandy70> ciao
[09:14] <tristan3199> if you chat in here more people have good advice
[09:14] <thatdudematt> what client are people using?
[09:14] <FireCrotch> Semperfi30: We prefer to help in-channel, so that you can benefit from mulitple people being able to help
[09:14] <pcandy70> !list
[09:14] <tristan3199> thank you everyone who has helped me with learning all i have learned
[09:15] <TwoshedsJackson> ltibor65, Seems like it's simply configuring iptables, like firestarter.
[09:15] <Semperfi30> Hmm, well I took my computer to get fixed a couple months back it got fixed I also had the guy fix my partitions so that I can pick either Ubuntu or Windows 7 to log into, he used Grub boot loader for this. But when I log into it and try to update stuff or do certain things it asks me for a password and I have no clue what it is. I thought I would have just automatically been given full permission when he installed it... And now I'm a
[09:15] <Semperfi30> fraid to uninstall or reinstall for fear of screwing up my Windows 7 partition.
[09:16] <TwoshedsJackson> ltibor65, You set it up, and it saves the settings so iptables run correctly each startup
[09:16] <Sensiva> Hello, Would someone please have a look at this question and let me know of any ideas? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/112657
[09:16] <tristan3199> is your windows 7 customized? or can  u extract your info easily
[09:17] <Semperfi30> @tristan: What do you mean by customized? And extract what info?
[09:17] <tristan3199> well i am new to linux i am quite experinced in windows7
[09:17] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, grub is possible to fix and tweak with a grub boot disc
[09:18] <Semperfi30> @Twosheds: I just want to be able to update all the codecs and universes and stuff but it won't let me because it says I don't have appropriate permissions.
[09:18] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, Also, unless you have some special installation, you can always read the windows drive and extract vital info
[09:18] <linux> mplayer died y is that
[09:18] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, You always need the root password, if you don't know it, find out what it is asap
[09:18] <linux> Exiting... (End of file)
[09:18] <linux> mplayer died, exit status 0
[09:19] <athlion> Semperfi30: but of coursel, you need the "administrator"'s password
[09:19] <Semperfi30> Well I haven't used Ubuntu because I haven't been able to modify it so, right now it's pretty much always been a new installation.
[09:19] <FireCrotch> linux: mplayer reached the end of the file, and successfully exited.
[09:19] <athlion> Semperfi30: he should have given you the pass
[09:19] <tristan3199> you can usually fdisk your drive... with all your info in your usb... or reinstall and all your files go into the annoying windows.old folder... and it gives you a windows7 grub... then install linux and you will get grub 2
[09:19] <Semperfi30> So if there is some detailed way of going about uninstalling and then re-installing it without screwing crap up on my windows 7 partition
[09:19] <athlion> Semperfi30: can you boot into single user mode?
[09:19] <tristan3199> then you wont need to worry bout what he did
[09:19] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes, there is
[09:20] <athlion> Semperfi30: while in grub, do you have options or is grub also password protected?
[09:20] <athlion> Semperfi30: and specifically, can you change the boot options?
[09:20] <linux> FireCrotch, but if i wanna replay the same file is there any command or attributes ,options
[09:21] <Semperfi30> @athlion: To be honest I don't know much about Grub other than that it's a boot loader and it decides what OS fires up first and allows selection if you so desire.
[09:21] <athlion> Semperfi30: this should be done by pressing 'e' while in grub's selection
[09:21] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes, you don't need to
[09:21] <athlion> athlion: listen to me
[09:21] <Semperfi30> Mkay
[09:21] <athlion> Semperfi30: when you are presented with the menu, ubuntu and win7
[09:21] <athlion> Semperfi30: is there anything ELSE you cn do apart from selecting oe of them?
[09:22] <Semperfi30> I'm not sure I think i've been able to get into a set up menu before in the past
[09:22] <tristan3199> athlion... can i make ubuntu default there instead of W7
[09:22] <athlion> tristan3199: of course you can
[09:22] <FireCrotch> linux: you want the same file to play in a loop?  mplayer -loop 0 filename
[09:23] <Semperfi30> @Tristan: whichever OS you boot into each time it makes that the default each time after the countdown, unless you pick otherwise.
[09:23] <Semperfi30> Right?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> startupmanager - Grub, Usplash and Splash screen configuration
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  its configurable :) you can set it to rember the last if you wanted
[09:23] <tristan3199> i mean... it counts down with W7 on top of ubuntu... selecting W7 unless i push down first
[09:23] <linux> FireCrotch, i did that not working
[09:24] <Semperfi30> @Dr_Willis: I think the dude made it that way for me then
[09:24] <athlion> Semperfi30: the solution to your problem is this:
[09:24] <linux> xwinwrap -ni -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- mplayer -wid WID mplayer -nosound -loop 0 -fixed-vo -wid 0 /home/vikas/Pictures/Photos/matrix.gif
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  very possible
[09:24] <linux> FireCrotch,
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  that startupmanager tool lets you pick what one to use by default.
[09:24] <Semperfi30> @Dr_Willis: Which makes things pretty convenient, I like the Grub loader a hell of alot better than what was there before. I guess windows boot manager
[09:24] <athlion> Semperfi30: you have to find a way to edit grub's boot parameters (which can be done within grub - look for available options) and edit the boot command to contain "init=/bin/bash"
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  thats weird. normally windows is the LAST items here. Unless your /etc/grub.d is tweaked a bit
[09:25] <Semperfi30> @athlion: And what will this do?
[09:25] <athlion> Semperfi30: then, when it presents you with a prompt, you have to remount / as read-write with the command: mount / -o remount,rw
[09:26] <athlion> Semperfi30: and then, change the password for your user by issuing: passwd username
[09:26] <athlion> where username is, of course, your username
[09:26] <tristan3199> ok..... i have a windows grub... i can choose W7 or ubuntu... if i choose nothing... it counts down and loads W7.... but if i push down enter.. it loads grub2... asking what veersion i want to load of ubuntu
[09:26] <Semperfi30> @Athlion: And this will work even if I don't know the administrator password?
[09:27] <Semperfi30> @Athlion: is there a way I can see a list of usernames registered in the system so I make sure I'm typing the right username?
[09:27] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes, when you pass init=/bin/bash it doesn't ask a pass, it just drops into root
[09:27] <codnik> hey guys! after the updagrade to 10.04 mounting has changed. before i would mount an hdd and it would ask for my root pass and mount. now it go ahead and mounts with no password but the name of the drive has an added underline to the end of it.
[09:27] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes: cat /etc/passwd
[09:28] <murderslastcrow> K, I'm back with a much simpler question than 'make my wireless usb adapter work with your magical brain'. Where is the firmware folder located (or supposed to be located) in Lucid for stuff like wireless firmware, because my device keeps requesting it in dmesg output when I already have it in /usr/local/lib/firmware.
[09:28] <athlion> Semperfi30: there would be about 35 users, one of which is you! (ubuntu sets uid 1000, so there would be a 1000 next to your username)
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> codnik:  theres an extra /media/SOMEDIRNAME  that dident get cleaned out. so it added a _ to get a unique name
[09:28] <ohir> Semperfi30: id command will tell you
[09:28] <Semperfi30> athlion: I type "cat /etc/passwd" in the terminal? Or at the Grub?
[09:28] <murderslastcrow> With the same name as provided by the dmesg output.
[09:29] <athlion> you type it after you alter the boot command in grub and you boot the system with the "init=/bin/bash" parameter.
[09:29] <athlion> Semperfi30: it will drop you to a command prompt
[09:29] <tristan3199> how would i go about making ubuntu the default in w7 Grub that loads first
[09:29] <Semperfi30> jeez now I gotta write all your instructions out by hand
[09:29] <Semperfi30> I wish I had ubuntu set up on a VM...would I be able to do all of this without switching from windows 7 if it was in a VM?
[09:30] <athlion> yes
[09:30] <athlion> Semperfi30: but it's no big deal, really
[09:30] <athlion> Semperfi30: wait a minute
[09:30] <Semperfi30> athlion: thats my next step once I get all this sorted out
[09:30] <tristan3199> do it semperfi... i have nt in ubuntu... and ubuntu in W7
[09:31] <codnik> Dr_Willis: oy... i went into nautilus as root and erased the empty drive folders and it mounts fine now. thanks for the tip, hadn't thought of that :)
[09:31] <deostroll> is there an irc network for bittorrent?
[09:31] <deostroll> *channel
[09:31] <Semperfi30> athlion: whats up? You said wait a minute? hahaha
[09:31] <athlion> Semperfi30: i'm searching for a guide
[09:32] <Semperfi30> athlion: ok
[09:32] <tristan3199> how come ubuntu thinks my disk is full before it accually is... it has serious errors i have to use Windows to delete stuff to trick ubuntu back into running
[09:32] <FireCrotch> deostroll: I imagine it would be.... #bittorrent
[09:32] <_Anthony> deostroll: #bittorrent
[09:32] <murderslastcrow> Would there be anything dangerous about placing a firmware package in several folders, just because I'm sick of trying to find out which one it is? XD
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> codnik:  you may want to learn to do such tasks from a terminal as root.. running nautilus as root can  be dangerous
[09:32] <athlion> Semperfi30: maybe I can find one that is very detailed and provides step-by-step (keypress-by-keypress) instructions
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> murderslastcrow:  proberly not. :)
[09:33] <Semperfi30> athlion: If I can just erase the Ubuntu partition and start over, that would be easiest...Maybe...I'm not sure. Or if I can just get one in a VM environment which would be even better. I just don't want to mess up the partition tables. Because the repair guy had to recover them.
[09:33] <murderslastcrow> Oh, the clutter. I'm going to feel so guilty.
[09:33] <tristan3199> ok... so i have one partition with everything.. is that a bad idea?????????????/
[09:33] <codnik> Dr_Willis: that would be just removing the folders using terminal? i just kinda thought nautilus would be faster.
[09:34] <drake> Question: I have a device mounted via fstab as /dev/sdb1 /media/terabyte  defaults 0 0.  I want to make a folder '/media/terabyte/shared' sharable and accessible across the network.  I am able to share the entire drive via the smb.conf usering xam's guide located here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver-p3 however I do not wish the entire drive accessed.  Someone mentioned symbolic links and sharing only that but I'm not sure how
[09:34] <drake>  to do this.  Catch: I'm on ubuntu server so no GUI but can navigate my around the command line.  Any takers?
[09:34] <FloodBot2> drake: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <codnik> Dr_Willis: anyway, after i kill the window am i not safe?
[09:34] <athlion> Semperfi30: well, if you are reasonably careful and just re-install linux on the same partition as before, nothing will get messed up. But there really is no need to do this. The thing I'm telling you requires ony 1 minute!
[09:34] <drake> Sorry floodbot that wasn't a flood rather it was a very long question that took two lines.  :)
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> codnik:  if you rember.. and if you dont accidently do somthing :)
[09:35] <murderslastcrow> Sweet- it worked!
[09:35] <Semperfi30> athlion: I'm aware. But bad luck seems to plague me with computers. Something goes wrong, I read something wrong, or it just doesn't go the way it's supposed to :/
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> codnik:  its best to learn to do things from the terminal in any case
[09:35] <athlion> Semperfi30: come on, now :-)
[09:35] <murderslastcrow> Thank you, Dr. Willis, for giving me the tenacity to use my common sense. Lmao.
[09:35] <athlion> Semperfi30: i'll get you a guide and you'll be set up in a matter of minutes
[09:35] <Semperfi30> athlion: I need a mini athlion that I can put in my pocket and pull you out whenver I have questions.
[09:35] <Semperfi30> xD
[09:35] <Semperfi30> whenever*
[09:35] <athlion> Semperfi30: lol!!! hehehe!!
[09:36] <codnik> Dr_Willis: never underestimate the power of humans to fail, eh?
[09:36] <tristan3199> is it a bad idea to run Windows and ubuntu together.. my ubuntu only allows so much space before it claims its full but accually not... so i store everyting in /host
[09:36] <Semperfi30> You know like a couple years ago they had that dancing monkey on your desktop sorta like the Microsoft Word animated buddies.
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  Who installed your system?   whats /host anyway?
[09:37] <codnik> Dr_Willis: thanks for the help. i'm off to bed.
[09:37] <codnik> farewell guys
[09:37] <xukun> the ubuntu logo and the fonts for ctrl,alt,F1 get too big after I installed the Proprietary Nvidia drivers. The logo gets way too big and ugly. Is this a bug?
[09:37] <Semperfi30> athlion: you are from greece!?!
[09:37] <athlion> Semperfi30: yup!
[09:37] <drake> I think the flood bot blocked my question so I'll shorten it and repost it.
[09:37] <Semperfi30> I hear Greece has been having a lot of issues. Have you been affected?
[09:38] <tristan3199> if i open a file manager its the host folder... and for some reason it doesnt fill up my linux... i dont know why but it has a cap....  i beleve from my wubi install
[09:38] <drake> Question: I have a device mounted via fstab as /dev/sdb1 /media/terabyte  defaults 0 0.  I want to make a folder '/media/terabyte/shared' sharable and accessible across the network.  I am able to share the entire drive via the smb.conf usering xam's guide located here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver-p3 however I do not wish the entire drive accessed.  Someone mentioned symbolic links and sharing only that but I'm not sure how
[09:38] <tristan3199> if i store in my documents it loads up at 4 GB and locks up...
[09:39] <drake> The catch is i'm using ubuntu server, no gui
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  I dont use wubi at all.. i dont reccomend using wubi.
[09:39] <tristan3199> i dont fully understand wubi except i had it on my iso...
[09:39] <tristan3199> installed it in windows
[09:39] <athlion> Semperfi30: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[09:40] <athlion> Semperfi30: scroll down where it says
[09:40] <Semperfi30> athlion: I'm using 9.04 so i don't think Grub 2 is installed
[09:40] <Semperfi30> so will those instructions be accurate?
[09:40] <athlion> Semperfi30: "Editing Menus During Boot"
[09:40] <tristan3199> continued by installling ubuntu itself... next thing i know i have a duel boot system
[09:40] <athlion> Semperfi30: Oooooh!!!
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  You should look into doing a normal install  sometime.
[09:40] <athlion> Semperfi30: I thought you were using ubuntu 10.04
[09:40] <athlion> ok
[09:40] <Semperfi30> No
[09:40] <Semperfi30> I told you
[09:40] <Semperfi30> i haven't been able to update or anything
[09:40] <tristan3199> i power up and it asks ubuntu or windows
[09:40] <Semperfi30> becuase I don't have appropriate permissions
[09:40] <athlion> SeI didn't catch it :-)
[09:40] <Semperfi30> when i try to
[09:40] <tristan3199> isnt that as normal as i want it?
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  No.. its installed INSIDE windows.
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  thats not how most people install ubuntu.
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> !wubi | tristan3199
[09:41] <tristan3199> its not inside windows...
[09:42] <athlion> Semperfi30: look, if you have 9.04 it is a bit of a bad idea to upgrade and the upgrade again to get to 10.04
[09:42] <athlion> but it can be done
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  wubi runs from a file on the windows partition. it isntaleld via a tool that makes it appear in the add/remove programs listings. thats 'inside windows' - Unless you bootted from the cd and did a normal install.
[09:42] <tristan3199> its a duel boot
[09:42] <killermask> hello !!!!!!
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  then you are not using WUBI.

[09:42] <tristan3199> it options a full install
[09:42] <athlion> Semperfi30: but, as far as the password goes, we can fix that in no time
[09:42] <Semperfi30> athlion: Why is it a bad idea to upgrade...Isn't that what you're supposed to do...
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  wubi does a boot menu. and you boot to either one. but it does NOT have its own partitions.  theres no /host/ or other things like that.
[09:42] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes, it is
[09:42] <Semperfi30> 10.04 has all the latest fixes and stuff
[09:43] <killermask> i got a question (how to enable RFMON) ?????
[09:43] <drake> hello killermask
[09:43] <tristan3199> what did i do
[09:43] <tristan3199> am i doomed?
[09:43] <athlion> Semperfi30: but it usually doesn't go veeeeeery smoothly
[09:43] <Semperfi30> How come?
[09:43] <Semperfi30> Is 10.04 not as good as it should be?
[09:43] <athlion> Semperfi30: No, no, 10.04 is very good
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  If from within windows - you poped in the cd. and  followed the auto started isntaller.. then you are usign WUBI. thats  a bit more limited then a normal install
[09:43] <Semperfi30> why is it so hard to upgrade then?
[09:43] <Semperfi30> Isn't it the same as upgrading from any other verison
 hay man , do u got an idea about how to enable the RFMON ?????
[09:44] <athlion> Semperfi30: well, you see, the developers can't forsee everything you might do with your old installation
[09:45] <tristan3199> i used a usb... in windows... did a wubi install... then it asked to install or run as trial.. not exact words... but i picked install.. now i have a grub 2 if i chose ubunto duduring startup
[09:45] <rocket16> Semperfi30: 10.04 is LTS, and so it might take a bit longer than to upgrade, as most Systems are rewritten. Also, a Clean installation is always better.
[09:45] <athlion> Semperfi30: so, there is a fine line between upgrading the system and bringing it to the "default" state of the new one and keeping your old settings
[09:45] <Semperfi30> I don't have any settings
[09:45] <Semperfi30> I can't do anything because I don't have permissions
[09:45] <Semperfi30> basically it's never been used
[09:45] <Semperfi30> the installation that is
[09:45] <athlion> Semperfi30: well, the installer doesn't know that :-)
[09:46] <Semperfi30> So then erase the partition and install 10.04 fresh
[09:46] <Semperfi30> would be best then?
[09:46] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes, way better
 how to enable RFMON ???
[09:46] <athlion> but you can try with upgrading first
[09:47] <Semperfi30> I'd rather go with the safe way then to have to go about doing it in a way that coule possible give me problems down the road.
[09:47] <athlion> Semperfi30: worst thing that can happen is to break your ubuntu installation in which case, you just reinstall :-)
[09:47]  * Dr_Willis wonders what RFMON even is
[09:47] <Semperfi30> I just want the latest version
[09:47] <drake> killermask, Sorry, I have no idea.  I only deal with ubuntu server non gui.  For desktop usege I use mint and everything works out of the box so I never had to enable anything.
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> killermask, depends on the chipset
[09:47] <Semperfi30> with administrator permissions
[09:47] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  how come you dont have admin rights now?
[09:47] <Semperfi30> on grub loader so I can use it and update stuff and do normal ubuntu operations
[09:47] <athlion> Semperfi30: so, your first objective is: change the user's password
[09:47] <rocket16> Semperfi30: Yes. A new fresh clean install is always better.
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> Dr_Willis, radio frequency monitoring, only applies to wireless chipsets that are supported
[09:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: do this (write it down)
[09:48] <killermask> eth1 802.11
[09:48] <Semperfi30> Noooo changing the password won't do anything because all that will give me is the ability to upgrade to 10.04 from 9.04 which you said is a hassle
[09:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: in the screen where you choose which operating system to boot, press 'e'
[09:48] <psycho_oreos> killermask, pastebin your lspci -nnk output
 eth1 802.11
[09:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: it isn't always a hassle
[09:48] <psycho_oreos> killermask, that's not what I requested
[09:48] <Semperfi30> Well when I try to download codecs and stuff
[09:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: there is a good chance that it will go just fine. But it is not guaranteed
[09:48] <killermask> or what ??
[09:49] <Semperfi30> stuff thats like a 100 kb's or a few megabytes in size it would take hours to download on a 10 meg down conneciton...that on windows would take a couple of seconds...
[09:49] <athlion> Semperfi30: so, you might have to reinstall - as a last resort
[09:49] <drake> Question: I have a device mounted via fstab as /dev/sdb1 /media/terabyte  defaults 0 0.  I want to make a folder '/media/terabyte/shared' sharable and accessible across the network.  I am able to share the entire drive via the smb.conf usering xam's guide located here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver-p3 however I do not wish the entire drive accessed.  Someone mentioned symbolic links and sharing only that but I'm not sure how
  i did,int understand your mean @!!!!
[09:49] <psycho_oreos> killermask, open up the terminal, type in "lspci -nnk" (without quotes) copy and paste the output.. open up your favourite web browser, navigate to pastebin.com and paste the output in there, hit submit and paste me the new link from the address bar
[09:49] <tristan3199> seperfi30: i just upgraded and i would suggest fresh install
[09:50] <Semperfi30> Sooo upgrading from within 9.04 could take me FOREVER
[09:50] <tristan3199> i had about 6 things i had to fix so far
[09:50] <ltibor65> How to set the user photo in login window in Xubuntu 10.04?
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  upgrading would download some 600mb of stuff..
[09:50] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, I would suggest always install from scratch, always
[09:50] <tristan3199> but im new to ubuntu and was able to do it with a few hours
[09:50] <Semperfi30> Which would take FOREVER because for some reason Ubuntu likes to throttle my internet connection to a retarded level
[09:50] <drake> I agree with Twoshedsjackson  from scratch is always so much easier.
[09:50] <tristan3199> apt-get upgrade
[09:51] <tristan3199> ????????
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  for all you know a clean install might fix that.
[09:51] <Semperfi30> Only when I download or upgrade
[09:51] <Semperfi30> not on firefox
[09:51] <Semperfi30> or websites etc
[09:51] <trollboy> so I'm getting disk I/O errors loading evolution...
[09:51] <trollboy> is there a way to rebuild those db's?
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  sounds like youmay need to try some different ubuntu mirrors
[09:51] <trollboy> (evolution:5061): evolution-mail-WARNING **: Could not setup local store/folder: disk I/O error  and (evolution:5061): camel-WARNING **: something went wrong terribly during db creation
[09:52] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, That sounds really strange ... download the latest image using windows then, burn it, and install
[09:52] <tristan3199> use torrents to download it
[09:52] <Munce> or USB it
[09:52] <drake> There is no throttling of network resources in ubuntu that I'm aware of.   Ubuntu doesn't even have an inbount 10 connection limit like M$ windows does
[09:52] <Semperfi30> Ok well I always have issues deciding which partition to install to. I don't know what SDA or whatever the abbreviations it uses are
[09:52] <Semperfi30> etc
[09:52] <Semperfi30> I've only ever worked with Gpartition
[09:52] <athlion> Semperfi30: sorr
[09:52] <Semperfi30> and I never understood it
[09:52] <tristan3199> i used a usb... and i think wubi guess it could have been a live usb
[09:52] <athlion> Semperfi30: this probably means that the server you are downloading from is very slow
 http://pastebin.com/7c8H6k7d
[09:52] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, It's really easy to figure out if you know what kind of drives you have installed
[09:53] <tristan3199> but it was in windows
[09:53] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi30, It says total space, free space etc, so it's straight forward
[09:53] <athlion> Semperfi30: but to change that, you need that password :-)
[09:53] <Semperfi30> @athlion: Yeah cause my wifi card is fine
[09:53] <psycho_oreos> killermask, that driver does not support rfmon mode
[09:53] <athlion> Semperfi30: of course it is!
[09:53] <tristan3199> why does my diskmanager say i have lots of room and ubuntu say its full
[09:53] <Semperfi30> @athlion: I think I want to go a different route
[09:53] <tristan3199> please help
[09:54] <Semperfi30> athlion: I just want to do a fresh install soooo
[09:54] <Semperfi30> how much space do I need to burn it onto a blank disk
[09:54] <Semperfi30> if I need a dvd then I can't do it
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> tristan3199:  what 'disk manager' are you talking about?
[09:54] <athlion> Sempron: you need an empty CD
[09:54] <Semperfi30> all i have is CD-R
[09:54] <sohcahtoa> i'm trying to crop a .FLV file with Avidemux but it doesn't support FLV with H.264/AVC Video, does anyone know how i can remedy this?
[09:54] <athlion> Semperfi30: that's exactly what you need
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  ubuntu uses cd's by default
 oh my god !!!!
[09:55] <Semperfi30> Right but willl I have to use TWO cd's ?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  or a bootable flash drife is handy also.
[09:55] <psycho_oreos> killermask, you can thank broadcrap for that
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  it fits on 1 cd.
[09:55] <athlion> Semperfi30: why two? Ubuntu is just ONE cd.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> !install
[09:55] <Semperfi30> well depending on the space available on standard blank cd's
[09:55] <Semperfi30> there might not be enough
[09:55] <Semperfi30> you never know
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  if you got an old cd thats that old smaller size..then you are out of luck
[09:55] <Flannel> Semperfi30: Do you have 700MB CDs (80 minutes) or 640MB CDs?
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> or use a flash drive.. they install faster also
[09:56] <Semperfi30> Let me look
[09:56] <Semperfi30> I have a flashdrive
[09:56] <Semperfi30> I just need an ISO burning application right ?
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> and you won't have burn errors, because there are none
[09:56] <athlion> Semperfi30: hm, what? Most blank cd's are 700MB which is 100% fine. If you have written even one tiny file on the cd, you can't use it for ubuntu
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> if you're copying it onto flash drive you need unetbootin not a ISO burning application
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  use unetbootin to make a bootable flash drive. its a handy tool.
[09:57] <drake> http://www.pendrivelinux.com has a very nice iso to flash drive utility
[09:57] <Semperfi30> Yeah that reminds me, if I do that I will be able to saaay plug it into a library computer go into the live portion and browse the internet?
 is there any trick to do it ??
[09:57]  * Semperfi30 goes and downloads unetbootin
[09:58] <athlion> Semperfi30: if the library computer is setup to beet from usb, yes
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> killermask, yes there is an alternative yet longer trick into getting it to work, that is to use b43 driver instead of wl
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi30:  you have to BOOT from the flash drive.. i doubt if the library will want you to do that
[09:58] <athlion> Semperfi30: ehm, beet = boot
[09:58] <psycho_oreos> killermask, search for "b43; bcm4312; ubuntu" and you'll find a very long guide on how to go about doing it
 thnx lokin for it wait
[10:00] <Semperfi40> oops
[10:00] <Semperfi40> I got disconnected
[10:00] <psycho_oreos> killermask, I'm not going to guide you through it, mainly because I don't have that crappy chipset and furthermore I wouldn't be spending time getting it to work when I can simply swap out for a supported chipset or purchase USB dongle which has a supported chipset
[10:00] <sohcahtoa> ffmpeg = win.
[10:00] <Semperfi40> are you guys still here?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> no :)
[10:00] <athlion> yes
[10:01] <Semperfi40> Oh
[10:01] <Semperfi40> Mmmm'kay (Southpark)
[10:01] <Semperfi40> ok i have a stack of blank cd's
[10:01] <Semperfi40> checking them out
[10:01] <Semperfi40> they are Memorex
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> Are they Pink? the pink ones work best...
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> :)
[10:02] <psycho_oreos> killermask, ping
[10:02] <Semperfi40> recordable.40X.700MB.80min
[10:02] <athlion> The pink and invisible ones :-)
[10:02] <Semperfi40> is what it says
[10:02] <Semperfi40> Mines are silver xD
[10:02] <Semperfi40> Mine*...
[10:02] <athlion> Semperfi30: they 'll do just fine
[10:03] <Semperfi40> Ok so I download the program
[10:03] <Semperfi40> and it will put it on the CD
[10:03] <killermask> ???? wt ,, sorry but am new linux user thats why?
[10:03] <Semperfi40> hahaha I quit ^
[10:03] <athlion> Semperfi40: what program?
[10:03] <Semperfi40> UNetbootin
[10:03] <Semperfi40> like you guys said
 ???? wt ,, sorry but am new linux user thats why?
[10:04] <athlion> Semperfi40: if you are going the CD-way, you need just the .iso of ubuntu and a burning application, like nero
[10:04] <Semperfi40> uhoh
[10:04] <Semperfi40> this is for USB's hahaha
[10:04] <Semperfi40> Maybe the usb route would be easier
[10:04] <|corpse|> would it be ok to ask a general computer question?
[10:04] <arinda> hey all. i need help. i was installing office 2007, but it was broken and i can't uninstall them through wine. so, what can i do?
[10:04] <psycho_oreos> killermask, I've made a mistake.. grave one.. you shouldn't be using wl, but should be using b43.. that is a genuine bcm4312 chipset not bcm4315 (which is lp/phy)
[10:04] <Semperfi40> |corpse|: you're in the right spot
[10:05] <psycho_oreos> !bcm43xx | killermask
[10:06] <|corpse|> Semperfi40: i just got home and one of my computers will not except my network  password. i can really not thinkg of anything that would cuase that
[10:06] <drake> arinda you should be able to access the files office install put on your hard drive by going to ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/ms office     or something similar
[10:06] <psycho_oreos> killermask, follow the guide on b43, don't follow the guide on wl and make sure you blacklist wl
[10:06] <Semperfi40> Uh oh guys
[10:06] <Semperfi40> I think I lost my windows 7 installation cd's :/
[10:06] <|corpse|> Semperfi40:  still got your unbuntu cd?
[10:06] <Semperfi40> and I can't find my usb drive so I'm gonna have to go the CD route
[10:06] <Semperfi40> What would be the best program to burn the ISO to
[10:06] <Semperfi40> the cd with
[10:07] <athlion> Semperfi40: a free one?
[10:07] <Semperfi40> yeah a free one
[10:07] <Semperfi40> of course haha
[10:07] <arinda> drake, i wanna uninstall/delete them on my computer. so can i delete them manually and then reinstall them again
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> !burn
[10:07] <|corpse|> Semperfi40: brasero works for me
[10:07] <murderslastcrow> CDBurner XP is a good one.
[10:07] <athlion> Semperfi40: for example http://cdburnerxp.se/
[10:07] <murderslastcrow> I think you're referring to a Windows-based on?
[10:07] <murderslastcrow> one*
 i found this one  b43-fwcutter
[10:08] <jaapz> im trying to compile a program, but im stuck at the ./autogen.sh script, which returns this when i try to execute it : bash: ./autogen.sh: Permission denied
[10:08] <killermask> sould i use it
[10:08] <Semperfi40> Yep that'll work
[10:08] <jaapz> i already tried chmodding it, using sudo, etc
[10:08] <johntramp> hi.    I am running UNR but want to change to a regular ubuntu interface.  Am I able to do this without formatting?
[10:08] <jaapz> doesnt work
[10:08] <jaapz> using ubuntu 10.04
[10:08] <psycho_oreos> killermask, no on the truth side of thing, broadcom isn't very linux friendly, they aren't open enough to let others easily develop support on their devices, especially wireless chipsets. Hence they've earnt the nickname broadcrap and users who own broadcom wireless chipsets are usually frowned upon because of their impartial involvement in flying broadcom flag
[10:09] <Semperfi40> Ok so now once I get everything burned etc
[10:09] <Semperfi40> Will I be able to do everything necessary to install 10.04 from within windows 7 only having to restart once installation is complete?
[10:09] <killermask> i found this on the website guide that u give me
[10:09] <CaptainTrek> jaapz:  run it as sudo
[10:10] <psycho_oreos> killermask, yeah you'll need that and to cut out the firmware from the proprietary driver from openwrt and to make sure the firmwares are sitting in the right place. Then you unload wl and modprobe b43.. once working you can blacklist wl or remove it (preferably)
[10:10] <|corpse|> my main pc that has been connected to my network for a few months on 10.04 just suddenly lost connectiong and now tells me my network pass is incorrect. but my other computers are still connected just fine. anyone know what could do this?
[10:10] <jaapz> CaptainTrek, already tried that, doesnt work
[10:10] <athlion> Semperfi40: you will have to restart and boot from the cd
[10:10] <Munce> have you tried running as su?
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  you BOOT the cd. and do the install from teh booted cd.. Not from within windows. Unless you want to do a 'wubi type' install
[10:10] <pallgone> Semperfi40: with wubi?
[10:10] <Moviemaker1> how is it possible to check if build-essential installed on the system?
[10:10] <jaapz> CaptainTrek, sudo: unable to execute ./autogen.sh: Permission denied
[10:10] <Flannel> Moviemaker1: dpkg -l | grep build-essential
[10:10] <Semperfi40> |corpse|: You need to make sure that you don't have MAC address protection set-up or something like that. ANd check your router settings.
[10:10] <Munce> jaapz: try sudo su, and then run
[10:11] <Flannel> Moviemaker1: Oh, wait.  Or apt-cache policy build-essential
[10:11] <jaapz> Munce, already tried that, didnt work
[10:11] <arinda> anybody can help me? please!
[10:11] <psycho_oreos> !ask | arinda
[10:11] <Semperfi40> err...Wubi? Same as using the CD right? Just from within windows I take it?
[10:11] <jaapz> holy shit
[10:11] <jaapz> i didnt install build-essential
[10:11] <jaapz> thats idiotic
[10:11] <|corpse|> Semperfi40:  yeah, thing is it worked fine when i went to work this morning, now just that one pc (out of 4) gets incorrect authentication key
[10:11] <Moviemaker1> Flannel: so i just enter "apt-cache policy build-essential" ?
[10:11] <athlion> arinda: please state your problem first :-)
[10:12] <Semperfi40> |corpse|: Have you tried resetting your router, etc.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  You do a "wubi" install IN windows,, or you boot the cd and do a 'normal' install to its own partitions.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  I never reccomend using wubi.
[10:12] <Flannel> Moviemaker1: yeah, and at the top it'll tell you whcih version (if any) is installed
[10:12] <arinda> psycho_oreos, i don't ask to ask. my question is above.
[10:12] <Semperfi40> Oh with Wubi you don't get to pick patitions
[10:12] <Semperfi40> partitions*
[10:12] <pallgone> Semperfi40: no, it's not the same, instead of creating a partition it makes a file on the windows partition and boots into that one from bootloader
[10:12] <murderslastcrow> Wubi has a lot of disadvantages, but it's great for a quick trial run.
[10:12] <Moviemaker1> Flannel: thanks
[10:13] <rautamiekka> I did clean install of Ubuntu Server 10.04 x64 and SSH refuses connections until I do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart". This problem didn't exist back in 9.10 x64 installation on the same machine.
[10:13] <Semperfi40> Oh alright
[10:13] <Semperfi40> Thats probably bad for troubleshooting or anything that may happen down the road
[10:13] <psycho_oreos> arinda, can't help if you're not going to tell us the problem, we're not mind readers
[10:13] <murderslastcrow> No speed issues with the CD, and near-native speed despite being on NTFS in Windows without hibernation and the whole media sharing thing.
[10:13] <murderslastcrow> Only use Wubi if you're a noob trying to see what Ubuntu is. Otherwise, use GParted.
[10:13] <|corpse|> Semperfi40: yeah that would be a good first step. i reset the one pc but still would get denied. ill reset the router and come back in
[10:13] <murderslastcrow> Hm- I set up my ssh server the other day and I didn't need to restart it.
[10:14] <Semperfi40> |corpse|: make sure you wait 30 seconds
[10:14] <athlion> rautamiekka: are you certain it's running in the first place
[10:14] <athlion> ?
[10:14] <jvizzle> |where are you all from to have so much knowledge to help people
[10:14] <Semperfi40> also make sure you reset your internet connection source directly as well
[10:14] <iroquois> i use wubi,is it as secure as installing it in it's own partition?
[10:14] <pallgone> rautamiekka: start ssh with -v to see what's going on
[10:14] <murderslastcrow> We just use Ubuntu/Linux and look a little deeper than the average user at times. It may seem complicated, but many of the things we talk about are not that hard to grasp after all.
[10:15] <rautamiekka> athlion: Shouldn't the connection attempt simply timeout if the SSH Server isn't running ?
[10:15] <Semperfi40> Ok ok guys sorry for all the beatin' round the bush I just have to make sure I'm doing everything right.  Yeah, we are the overlords! Bow before us! :-)    mwahahahahah!!!!
[10:15] <jvizzle> lol
[10:15] <antivirtel> re
[10:16] <athlion> rautamiekka: no, if the port isn't open, the connection is refused
[10:16] <athlion> rautamiekka: by the kernel
[10:16] <Semperfi40> Btw no one told me what "LTS" stands for
[10:16] <murderslastcrow> Long Term Support.
[10:16] <Semperfi40> Ohh
[10:16] <jussi> !lys
[10:16] <iceroot> !lts | Semperfi40
[10:16] <jvizzle> MURDER!
[10:16] <Semperfi40> Oh...
[10:16] <Flannel> jvizzle: Please stop that.
[10:16] <iceroot> jvizzle: stop it please
[10:16] <Semperfi40> Has there not normally been support in the past?
[10:17] <jvizzle> i'm sorry
[10:17] <rautamiekka> athlion: Ah, okey. Just rebooted and checking is the SSH Server running.
[10:17] <Flannel> Semperfi40: Regular releases are supported for 18 months.  LTS releases are supported for three years on the desktop, and five on the server.
[10:17] <jvizzle> why are there bots yelling at me tonite.
[10:17] <Semperfi40> Soo this isn't a regular release? It's a special release? But it is the most UP TO DATE verison of Ubuntu? They just decided to make it an LTS release this time?
[10:18] <Semperfi40> Or is it sort of like Microsoft and their 4 year release timeline
[10:18] <iceroot> Semperfi40: correct
[10:18] <Hans_Henrik> yes, yes, and its complicated
[10:18] <Flannel> Semperfi40: Right.  It's a regular release that has a longer support cycle
[10:18] <Ginbun2> how do I sync my music in Rythmbox to my iphone?
[10:18] <iceroot> !iphone | Ginbun2
[10:19] <Semperfi40> So from a scale from 1 to 10 10 being the greatest and 1 being the smallest, how big of an improvement/step up is 10.04 from 9.04?
[10:19] <iceroot> Semperfi40: try the live-cd and find out
[10:19] <Ginbun2> iceberg, I heard that lucid supports iphone out of the box
[10:19] <pallgone> Semperfi40: Ubuntu gets a new release every half a year at fixed dates, no matter how stable it is or how many bugs it has etc. (afaik)
[10:19] <Ginbun2> but I can not find the sync button
[10:19] <athlion> Semperfi40: you can't quantify those things, you know
[10:19] <Semperfi40> I see.
[10:20] <iceroot> Ginbun2: dont know, luckily i am not using apple-stuff
[10:20] <Semperfi40> I thought 10.04 was like had a bunch of NEW things added onto it that previous versions didn't have thats all I meant
[10:20] <jvizzle> Are they going to release something that can read over 4g ram?
[10:20] <athlion> Semperfi40: yes, there are many improvements
[10:20] <Ginbun2> iceberg, found it. it is just drag and drop
[10:20] <Semperfi40> sort of like
[10:20] <Semperfi40> what windows 7 was to vista
[10:20] <iceroot> jvizzle:  every amd64 version
[10:21] <Semperfi40> is it that kind of release?
[10:21] <athlion> Semperfi40: the most noticeable of which, ultrafast boot times (mine boots in about 3-4 secs on my ssd)
[10:21] <jvizzle> iceroot: has it released yet?
[10:21] <iceroot> jvizzle: of course
[10:21] <Semperfi40> :S You have an SSD they are so expensive ><
[10:21] <iceroot> jvizzle: for every ubuntu-version there is also an amd64 iso
[10:21] <jvizzle> iceroot: i didn't see it
[10:21] <iceroot> !download | jvizzle
[10:21] <athlion> Semperfi40: no they are not, I have just 30gb
[10:22] <Semperfi40> Oh well i suppose with Ubuntu you don't need anything HUGE, windows is another story
[10:22] <jvizzle> iceroot; can it go over the kernal i have now?
[10:22] <jvizzle> iceroot: or do i have to erase everything?
[10:22] <iceroot> jvizzle: if you have i386 iinstalled you need to reinstall the whole system to use amd64
[10:23] <Semperfi40> hahaha it's already almost 5:30am and I havne't been to sleep yet, and now this will take an hour I wish I had started downloading it forever ago
[10:23] <jvizzle> iceroot: how much ram does linux use if im just running some local servers and two broadcasts?
[10:23] <iceroot> Semperfi40: you have a support question?
[10:24] <jvizzle> iceroot: i have a stick of dd3 just hanging out
[10:24] <Semperfi40> iceroot: Umm others have been helping me :)
[10:24] <iceroot> jvizzle: what are local servers?
[10:24] <Semperfi40> Hmm
[10:24] <Semperfi40> I wonder if there is a bittorrent download for this
[10:24] <Semperfi40> would go much faster
[10:24] <iceroot> !torrents | Semperfi40
[10:25] <jvizzle> iceroot: i have 5 people on it right now just practicing... 1 out in san diego and a few in cleveland holding all the data
[10:25] <Semperfi40> rofl...
[10:25] <Semperfi40> Archtecture
[10:25] <Semperfi40> I'm running an AMD
[10:25] <Semperfi40> do I need to download the AMD version?
[10:25] <jvizzle> AMD :P
[10:25] <iceroot> jvizzle: i mean what is running on it? else we cant anser the question if you need amd64
[10:25] <murderslastcrow> Well guys, thanks for the light-hearted tech conversation. I'm off to hit the sack.
[10:25] <athlion> Semperfi40: safest best is the 32 bit i686 version
[10:25] <drake> OMG I got it! woot, I'm so happy now.
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  depends on the exact cpu you got
[10:25] <iceroot> Semperfi40: amd64 is running on intel and amd systems with 64bit
[10:25] <jvizzle> iceroot: my spec on my server?
[10:25] <Semperfi40> Phenom 9500
[10:26] <Semperfi40> quad core
[10:26] <iceroot> Semperfi40: that is an amd64 cpu
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  if its a 64bit cpu. You can use either release.
[10:26] <siropio> hi , i would like a good tutorial on how to install mod_security on ubuntu 9,10 . could you provide me a link? i have tried many but..
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> if you have 4+gb of ram . you want to use the 64bit version also
[10:26] <Semperfi40>  I only have 3 gigs of DDR2 at 800mhz
[10:26] <athlion> Semperfi40: just use the 32 bit. It is the safest bet and will present you with fewer problems
[10:27] <Semperfi40> Mkay sooo
[10:27] <Semperfi40> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:27] <athlion> yes
[10:27] <Semperfi40> I'm surprised theres only 102 seeds on isohunt for such a widely used OS
[10:27] <jvizzle> Does 64 bit use all 4 corse i have running?
[10:28] <iceroot> jvizzle: that has nothing to do with 64bit
[10:28] <athlion> jvizzle: both 32-bit and 64-bit use all your cores, yes
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  if you  are using a 64bit cpu. Youmay as well use 64bit. But whatever you want.
[10:28] <bastien> in #linux
[10:28] <bastien> sorry. I all
[10:28] <Semperfi40> Someone already stated that my cpu wasn't a 64 bit cpu
[10:28] <Semperfi40> :P
[10:29] <iceroot> Semperfi40: its an amd64 cpu
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Semperfi40:  I thought they said it WAS
[10:29] <athlion> Semperfi40: it still IS. :-)
[10:29] <jvizzle> iceroot; athlion: i was running a windows server but this i have on my server now never hiccups but doesn't read all my ram installed.
[10:29] <Semperfi40> Oh it is a 64 bit?
[10:29] <Semperfi40> hahahaha
[10:29] <Semperfi40> I thought you guys said it wasn't :P
[10:29] <Dr_Willis>   iceroot | Semperfi40: that is an amd64 cpu
[10:29] <Semperfi40> Well it won't matter I'm assuming its basically the same as windows 64 bit is used for 4 gigs or more
[10:29] <TwoshedsJackson> Semperfi40, athlion speaks the truth, unless you know exactly why you NEED the 64-bit ubuntu, stick with the 32 bit version
[10:30] <jvizzle> Twoshedsjackson: if you have the ram sitting in the box its sad...
[10:30] <Semperfi40> Btw I was wrong, there are over 4,000+ seeds for the ubuntu torrent :O at 700 kb/s
[10:31] <TwoshedsJackson> jvizzle, If you ever use that much ram, call me :)
[10:31] <pallgone> TwoshedsJackson: why? if you got 64bit cpu why should you install 32bit? even flash has a 64bit version now
[10:31] <Semperfi40> Now at 1mb/s :O
[10:31] <Semperfi40> 12 minutes left
[10:31] <iceroot> !ot | Semperfi40
[10:31] <jvizzle> Twoshedsjackson: i used to run vista on a box :(
[10:31] <jvizzle> Twoshedjackson: leakkkkkkkk
[10:31] <Semperfi40> iceroot?
[10:31] <athlion> jvizzle: you can use more than 4gb ram with 32 bit version of ubuntu, nio problem
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> we dont need a 'play by play' Semperfi40  :)
[10:32] <iceroot> Semperfi40: we are not interested at the download-speed here :)
[10:32] <pallgone> !ot | pallgone
[10:32] <athlion> jvizzle: you just need the PAE kernel
[10:32] <athlion> jvizzle: which is of course available to install from the repositories
[10:32] <brontosaurusrex> any thoughts on ASUS Eee PC 1201N with some sort of ubuntu?
[10:32] <jvizzle> Athlion: no wipe?
[10:32] <Semperfi40> You can't really put a smiley after that...It sounds condecending anyway you put it :P ..... jk jk XD
[10:33] <athlion> jvizzle: what do you mean no wipe?
[10:33] <iceroot> jvizzle: with pae the system can adress more then 4gb of ram, but only 1.8gb for  a process
[10:33] <jvizzle> Athlion: I finally have my box the way I like it
[10:33] <jvizzle> Iceroot: I went from 7 to 9.04 and was crushed
 thnx fpr every thing !!!
[10:34] <Janhouse> What is wrong with empathy?
[10:34] <pallgone> iceroot: but then you would need the pae kernel, or is it in the mainline?
[10:34] <Janhouse> I just lost all non-irc accounts from it.
[10:34] <Janhouse> just like that...
[10:34] <Semperfi40> Janhouse what are you talking about O.o
[10:34] <iceroot> pallgone: the pa kernel is in the repos but not used by default (only server-edition is using pae by default)
[10:35] <Janhouse> Semperfi40, after restarting my PC I lost all non-irc acounts from empathy config.
[10:35] <Semperfi40> Oh
[10:35] <duckwars> why when I run "blkid" i get nothing?
[10:35] <Semperfi40> Nvm...
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  try a sudo in front of it?
[10:35] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: that's why you Dr
[10:36] <jvizzle> lol
[10:36] <jvizzle> I wouldn't want him teaching my class :(
[10:36] <pallgone> iceroot: it's funny how this lie spread that 32bit only can address 4gb. PAE is around for more than 10 years. we all know who is behind this lie.
[10:36] <iceroot> pallgone: its no lie
[10:36] <Semperfi40> pallgone: Is this the same in regards to Windows 32 bit?
[10:36] <jvizzle> pallgone: steve jobs?
[10:37] <desert-storm> haallo
[10:37] <iceroot> pallgone: a normal 32bit system can adress 4gb of memory-adress-bus (ram + pci-bus (vga and so on))
[10:37] <duckwars> editing my fstab for a usb hard drive, is there anything in paritcular I should put for <options>?
[10:37] <rautamiekka> athlion, pallgone: Okey, "ps -A | grep ssh" returned nothing and "ps aux | grep ssh" just something like "--color=auto ssh", which means it wasn't running, so how I can make it auto-start on bootup ?
[10:38] <jvizzle> iceroot: i ask because prior they had 64 available to download.
[10:38] <pallgone> iceroot: do you read what I write or just hammer something onto the keys
[10:38] <iceroot> jvizzle: yes a real 64bit system can adress more then 4gb ram, with pae you can also adress more then 4gb ram but only 1.8gb for a single process
[10:38] <athlion> rautamiekka: this is weird, let me check
[10:39] <CaptainTrek> how can I get my linux kernel version info with terminal?  i know its a common command, but I dont rememebr it
[10:39] <CaptainTrek> remember*
[10:40] <sohcahtoa> how do i search a man page for a string?
[10:40] <pallgone> CaptainTrek: uname -r
[10:40] <sohcahtoa> -page
[10:40] <iceroot> pallgone: you said that it is a lie that 32bit can only adress 4gb ram and i told you that it is not a lie and pae is not a normal 32bit system
[10:40] <pallgone> iceroot: it's a lie since PAE exists, got it?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> sohcahtoa:  man  command uses the 'more' or 'less' command  use the / key to start a search
[10:40] <iceroot> sohcahtoa: /searchstring
[10:40] <iceroot> pallgone: i told you the facts, now st0p it
[10:41] <sohcahtoa> Dr_Willis, iceroot: ty
[10:41] <feravoon> hey
[10:41] <CaptainTrek> what's this "pae" that is at the end of my linux version: 2.6.32-22-generic-pae
[10:41] <jvizzle> iceroot: is a version that is needed?
[10:41] <TheMusicGuy> Can someone explain to me why I can't send files on an NTFS filesystem to the trash, even though I can create and delete files?
[10:41] <pallgone> iceroot: ok, ciao
[10:41] <CaptainTrek> TheMusicGuy: because NTFS doesnt like the linux trash system AFAIK
[10:41] <CaptainTrek> xD
[10:42] <corpse> quick easy question, how do i make samba run on start up?
[10:42] <jvizzle> lol
[10:42] <Semperfi40> corpse: were you previously named |corpse| ?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> TheMusicGuy:  theres no .trashcan type setup.  :)  Ive seen it work on vfat/removeabel media - so im not sure why they dont do it on ntfs also
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> killermask, you got it working?
[10:42] <Chousuke> corpse: it means PAE support is enabled; ie. that your system will work with more than 4GB of RAM.
[10:42] <corpse> Semperfi40: yep
[10:42] <TheMusicGuy> CaptainTrek: I thought the "linux trash system" was just a directory at the root of the filesystem named ".Trash-0"
[10:42] <khussein78> when i use my headphones the sound still come from laptop speakers ?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> corpse:  it should do that allready once you install the samba service
[10:42] <drake> corpse once samba is installed it always runs on startup.
[10:42] <antivirtel> !bug 321012
[10:42] <antivirtel> nice :S
[10:42] <khussein78> how can i solve this
[10:42] <Semperfi40> corpse: Give me a sitrep.
[10:42] <chikatambun> corpse can't google... so anyone will help him
[10:43] <Chousuke> whoops, that was to CaptainTrek :P
[10:43] <CaptainTrek> what was to me?
[10:43] <CaptainTrek> ?
[10:43] <CaptainTrek> resend?
[10:43] <rautamiekka> CaptainTrek: You want to read -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[10:43] <Semperfi40> corpse: on your internet situation
[10:43] <antivirtel> !hello
[10:43] <Chousuke> CaptainTrek: my previous line that I addressed to corpse
[10:43] <antivirtel> !bug 321012
[10:43] <antivirtel> .. wtf?
[10:43] <jvizzle> Iceroot: I can't complain because the server that is running has been the smoothest I have ever used
[10:44] <Flannel> antivirtel: That's turned off in this channel
[10:44] <Semperfi40> Almost done!!!
[10:44] <corpse> Semperfi40: yeah i fixed that, but when i reboot my server i have to run /etc/init.d/smbd restart before i can connect to it
[10:44] <athlion> rautamiekka: this is really stupid, but can you check that /etc/init.d/ssh is executable ?
[10:44] <antivirtel> Flannel :S
[10:44] <CaptainTrek> Chousuke:  ah, got it.  I also got what rautamiekka sent me.
[10:44] <CaptainTrek> thanks
[10:44] <rautamiekka> No problem :)
[10:44] <Semperfi40> corpse: I just know basic netowrking troubleshooting, when it comes to linux though, I'm limited to the GUI. Athlion though, another story xD
[10:45] <rautamiekka> athlion: "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3899 Mar  8 18:11 /etc/init.d/ssh"
[10:45] <athlion> rautamiekka: yes, it thought as much
[10:45] <CaptainTrek> what's the package to allow ssh connections, and where's its config stored?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> !sshd
[10:46] <adelejjeh> hey guys, while updating the packages in package manager some pagkages are failing (the ones from freecontrib.org)
[10:46] <drake> corpse I might suggest removing samba using apt-get or the package manager (if there is one in the gui version of ubuntu) then re-installing it.  It sounds like something got pooched.
[10:46] <adelejjeh> any clues?
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> adelejjeh:  some servers were down i heard.
[10:46] <CaptainTrek> adelejjeh:  possible dead repo for a while?
[10:46] <athlion> rautamiekka: maybe you stumbled upon this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/583542
[10:46] <duckwars> why when I try to edit my fstab to automount a removable USB hard drive, I restart and it's not mounted where it is suppsoed to be, and then if I manually try to mount it, I get mount: /dev/sdb2 already mounted or /media/MOUNTPOINT busy?
[10:46] <adelejjeh> so its no problem?
[10:46] <drake> adelejjeh can you ping  freecontrib.org?
[10:47] <CaptainTrek> do i need both openssh-server and -client?
[10:47] <rautamiekka> adelejjeh: After you do those said before me, run "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[10:47] <rautamiekka> CaptainTrek: You need -server to allow you to connect to the computer you install it on. You need -client to connect to a computer which has -server.
[10:47] <drake> captaintrek you only need openssh-server to run the server and connect to it from remote location (i think)  but you need the client of course on the remote computer
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:    You made a directory called MOUNTPOINT for it to mount to?
[10:47] <adelejjeh> the ping gave me unknown host
[10:48] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: for the sake of my own privacy I'm telling you guys it's called that
[10:48] <CaptainTrek> drake: gnome-terminal's ssh feature wont let it connect?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  with exteranal usb disks the /dev/XXX position can change. thats why the UUID is normally used
[10:48] <hipitihop> is there an way to list the firmware version of my dvd drive ?
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  You can even mount based on LABEL or other ID type info not just UUID
[10:48] <CaptainTrek> er, the traditional "ssh" command in terminal i meant
[10:48] <adelejjeh> drake: the ping gave me unknown host
[10:49] <drake> adelejjeh I'm able to ping it from here, sounds like there's something else wrong, I wouldn't think it's a problem with apt.  Have you reset your router/computer recently?
[10:49] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I did use the UUID which I found from sudo blkid... the UUID is for the whole driving, ie, sdb2's UUID is the same as sdb1's right?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> duckwars: sdb1 is not the same uuid as sdb2
[10:49] <Callicut> heyho
[10:49] <drake> CaptainTrek you lost me when you said gnome ><  I don't use any gui's.  :(
[10:49] <adelejjeh> could it be possible that the server is down in my region?
[10:49] <rautamiekka> athlion: O, M, F, G ! Seriously, Ubuntu is now having that kind of bug ? Man.
[10:49] <pallgone> rautamiekka: you can check if sshd should get started like that: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/05/how-to-start-stop-services-in-ubuntu-lucid-automatically/
[10:49] <adelejjeh> cuz its giving me the sme thing on a different computers
[10:49] <drake> captaintrek or at least not with ubuntu anyway
[10:49] <CaptainTrek> drake: i meant the terminal
[10:50] <Callicut> anybody know how to configure sound in 10.xx ubuntu ? xD
[10:50] <CaptainTrek> drake: my terminal default is gnome-terminal, but I meant from CLI
[10:50] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: okay, well I used sdb2's (the correct one) should I umount before I use blkid to get the proper UUID or something?
[10:50] <adelejjeh> drake: could it be possible that the server is down in my region? cuz its giving me the sme thing on a different computers
[10:51] <athlion> rautamiekka: yes, well, 10.04 was no easy ride for me too... I have already stumbled upon numerous bugs to the point where I wondered why do I keep coming back.... ;-)
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:   just editing the fstab wont force things to get unmounted.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  unless you reboot.
[10:51] <TheMusicGuy> Ah-ha! You CAN have a trash can for NTFS partitions. :) You just need to create a folder in the root of the filesystem named ".Trash-<userid>", where <userid> is the numeric ID for the user who wants a trash can. (Most often its 1000)
[10:51] <drake> adelejjeh possable. I'm not sure what region you're in but if there's a bottle neck somewhere between you and that server and there's not other routes, then yeah, that could be it.  If that's the case it will probably start working fine in a few hours or so.
[10:51] <Scuttle> is there a way to customize the ubuntu startup logo?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  unmount everything, and try 'sudo mount -a' to see what it automounts where
[10:51] <adelejjeh> drake: ok thanx
[10:52] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: Well, I was curious that if I ran blkid WITHOUT umounting I'd get the wrong UUID.... when I reboot I still don't get the automount I want
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Scuttle:  yes. Theres a few diffrent ones in the repos..    but making your own is a bit harder.
[10:52] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I will try this
[10:52] <Scuttle> ah...
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> blkid should alwyas give teh same info reguardless
[10:52] <Scuttle> would like to have one that matches my htpc-setup (xbmc)
[10:52] <Scuttle> what would I search for to find the logos?
[10:53] <pallgone> Scuttle: not sure about that, but there's an easy way to disable it completely so you can see what's going on
[10:53] <Scuttle> nah, don't want to disable it
[10:53] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: when I try to umount it says a lot of devices are busy, and then when I try to mount -a it says "mount: /dev/sdb2 already mounted or /media/MOUNTPOINT busy"
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  that makes sence. :) if its not unmounting because its busy.. well its busy
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> close all windows/terminals accessing the device
[10:54] <dp999> hi
[10:54] <ndrewpj> hello all! Does somebody expecting slow internet speed with 10.04? I have intel 3945 wifi. Any solution on this? thanks in advance
[10:54] <drake> CaptainTrek I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what you were saying.  The only ssh client I use is putty on my laptop which is linux mint and putty on my gaming computer which is winblows.  The OpenSSH-Server I have installed on my ubuntu file server.  I installed that simply by typing apt-get install openssh-server (or something similar).  I did not have to have a client on my server to connect to it, and I didn't have to have openssh-s
[10:54] <drake> erver on any of the other computers that I administer the server from.  Not sure if that makes any sense or not.
[10:54] <duckwars> UUID=(bunch of numbers here) /media/MOUNTPOINT ext3 auto 0 2
[10:54] <drake> wow..that was long
[10:54] <duckwars> is exactly what I have in fstab
[10:55] <flaviof> has someone had nfs-kernel-server crashing ( and bringing dow the network subsystem) when transfering large files?
[10:55] <athlion> ndrewpj: no, the internet speed should be just fine. If it is not, then you have a problem, probably the drivers for your chipset are problematic or you have poor reception?
[10:55] <drake> duckwars  I'm not sure if anyone else is answering you or not (lot's of text going by) do you actually have a directory called /media/MOUNTPOINT and are the chmod permissions correct?
[10:56] <drake> ken is that ken1 from last night?
[10:56] <ndrewpj> with w7 it is normal but in ubuntu (and in archlinux with kernels >.32) the speed is 4-5 times slower
[10:56] <duckwars> drake: I'm just claling it MOUNTPOINT, it's really something else.... what permissions should be on the file before it's mounted to?
[10:57] <drake> duckwars I think either 755 or 777 depending on who you want to be able to access it.   My public share drive is 777
[10:57] <pallgone> ndrewpj: transfer rate ot responsiveness?
[10:57] <ndrewpj> transfer rate
[10:58] <athlion> ndrewpj: well, your chipset looks like it did have speed problems in the past. let me check if there exists a solution...
[10:58] <drake> duckwars also note, me personally I don't know diddly about UUID stuff...I just go by physical devices.  Example  /dev/sda1
[10:58] <ndrewpj> I have 6Mbit spot - it is ok o win, but in all recent kernels >.32 I have rate at 120Kbytes/sec
[10:58] <duckwars> drake: maybe I should give that a try and see if it works, least then I know it's a UUID thing
[10:59] <pallgone> ndrewpj: it's possible to have issues like that with some drivers/cards, you can try to use ndiswrapper and use the windows driver
[10:59] <seravitae> Hi guys i'm fixing someones machine - dodgy HDD, i've gotten to a busybox shell via ubuntu recovery mode, except i need to transfer a lot of files over network - either by FTP or windows shares. Anyone know if the recovery mode has access to either? i can't see anything in ~/bin.
[10:59] <SalmonSam> does empathy support conference calls for any of its protocols?
[10:59] <ndrewpj> you think it will work? intel drivers are from the kernel+firmware
[10:59] <drake> duckwars I don't recomend deleting that line though...Put a comment # in front of it instead.  That way if the /dev/whatever doesn't work you can always go back.  :)
[11:00] <Asad2005> I have a backup.img that was created using cat command how do i mount the img ?
[11:00] <pallgone> !give ndiswrapper | ndrewpj
[11:00]  * cori_ gives ndiswrapper a cup
[11:00] <ndrewpj> ok thanks, I'll try it
[11:01] <drake> seravitae ftp should be available for xfering files in recovery, not sure if you can access window shares in recovery though, never tried
[11:01] <rautamiekka> pallgone: I set "ssh" to all runlevels with sysv-rc-conf but still no change: connection refused until I "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[11:01] <seravitae> ftp would be fine dude, but i can't seem to find a client
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  what filesystem was it on? and what device was it?  /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ? or similer.
[11:01] <pallgone> ndrewpj: got the link?
[11:01] <seravitae> nothing standard like 'ftp', unless i'm missing something
[11:01] <ndrewpj> nop
[11:01] <pallgone> ndrewpj: download the latest windows driver and follow instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs (ndiswrapper)
[11:02] <Adamantus10> Can anyone here help me with installing Aptana studio in Ubuntu please?
[11:02] <duckwars> hwat does it mean if a directory is highlighted green?
[11:02] <drake> seravitae typing ftp from the bash prompt should put you in ftp mode.  If not then I'm mistaken and it's not available in recovery mode.  Maybe plugging a usb disk in and mounting it?
[11:02] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: It was taken for my dreambox receiver it must be ext2 or 3
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  was it a whole DISK image? or a partition image?
[11:03] <overmind> duckwars: That means privileges
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  somthing like 'sudo mount -o loop filename MOUNTPOINT'  is what you need
[11:03] <overmind> duckwars: chmod -help
[11:04] <pallgone> rautamiekka: and sshd is not running?
[11:04] <overmind> duckwars: chmod --help, sorry
[11:04] <seravitae> drake, ftp isn't there - but i found tftp tucked away in /usr/bin or something, not in default path, so yay
[11:04] <seravitae> :)
[11:04] <rautamiekka> pallgone: That's right, "ps aux | grep ssh" still returns nothing.
[11:04] <ndrewpj> I think I'll open a ticket in LP
[11:04] <duckwars> overmind: both do the same thing and give a VERY short list of extensions with no explination
[11:04] <ndrewpj> thank you though for the link
[11:04] <duckwars> chmod: illegal option -- -
[11:05] <Semperfi40> athlion: I'm burning my disc now :)
[11:05] <athlion> Semperfi40: cool
[11:05] <overmind> duckwars: Well, you can use "man chmod"
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !chmod
[11:06] <pallgone> rautamiekka: hmm, any errors in daemon.log?
[11:06] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: It gives you must specify fs type in the loop command
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  so specify it then
[11:06] <drive35> Hey I am Looking for sound juicer and a decent irc program like bitchx
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> !loop
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> drive35:  for text based irc. - checkout weechat
[11:07] <Kiff> drive35: whats wrong with bitchx
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> drive35:  or irssi
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Theres a lot wrong with BitchX :)
[11:07] <Kiff> hehe
[11:07] <Flannel> Kiff: it's unsupported, for one
[11:07] <SalmonSam> whats wrong with xchat?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> SalmonSam:  he said lilke BX. so that implies a text based one. not a gui client
[11:07] <drive35> I will look into it, Dr_WWillis
[11:07] <Kiff> i havent used it for 5 years i wouldnt know was just asking :)
[11:07] <rautamiekka> pallgone: Grrr, I meant "ps -A | grep ssh" returns nothing, and "ps aux | grep ssh" returns the same meaningless string as it did.
[11:07] <SalmonSam> meh never used bitchx
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !bitchx
[11:08] <SalmonSam> irssi is what I use at school
[11:08] <drive35> SalmonSam I am not too much into GUI
[11:08] <Semperfi40> athlion: I opened a private window with you
[11:08] <drive35> I like txt
[11:08] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: if it was ext2 or 3 there is no need to specify it i tried -t ext2 and 3 still giving error wrong fs type
[11:08] <didodo> how do i add root privilige to regular user???
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  thats whyi asked if it was a DISK image. or a partition Image.. If its a  image of like /dev/sda  - then theres some offset options you may need to give for it to work
[11:08] <drake> didodo sudo?
[11:09] <didodo> drake: that means should give him my root password
[11:09] <drive35> You guys are awesome i got to go.....but I will be back!!!!
[11:09] <Kiff> didodo: ad them to admin group
[11:09] <didodo> kiff: how??
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  This guide sems to cover it -> http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
[11:10] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: this is how i created it "cat /dev/mtd/3 > /tmp/backup.img"
[11:10] <pallgone> rautamiekka: I'm using 'ps -e' now, on SHIFT less ;)
[11:10] <pallgone> rautamiekka: *one
[11:10] <Semperfi40> athlion: I'm gonna go try and install this now I'll bb in a bit
[11:10] <drake> didodo oh, yeah that might not be a good idea.  You got me on that one then.  You could probably add him to the root group but I'm not sure that's a good idea at all.  If it's someone you dont't want to have the password then you probably don't want them as root.
[11:10] <Kiff> didodo: sudo usermod -G admin username
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  No idea on mtd stuff. if its a 'whole' disk image. with several partitions thatn you need to use the offset  options like that URL mentions
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  try 'testdisk whatever.img' to see some info on teh file
[11:11] <nody> hey, is there a exmaple config for gnome-mplayer config file
[11:11] <nody> ~/.mplayer/config ?
[11:11] <nody> i'm using vdpau
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> nody:  some in /etc/ and in the mplayer docs dir I recall. Or check the mplayer homepage/faqs
[11:12] <nody> but it lags some a bit
[11:12] <rautamiekka> pallgone: No luck. "ps -e > psoutput0.txt" -> "nano psoutput0.txt" -> CTRL+W -> "ssh" -> NO MATCHES
[11:14] <pallgone> rautamiekka: maybe try 'sudo grep -R sshd /var/log/'
[11:14] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: thanks anyhow i will ceck that link
[11:15] <nody> i need a filling for my ~/,mplayer/config file, like mak eit faster or buffering or something corse it lags
[11:15] <nody> cant find conifg examples in google
[11:16] <theadmin> Earlier, in Nautilus there was a pencil-like icon which allowed for switching between normal adress and some kind of... well... tree? Where is it now?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> nody:  best place to look would be the mplayer homepage and forums and docs/faq
[11:17] <nody> Dr_Willis: can you give me url plz
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> nody:  type in mplayer in the search box of your browser? It may be mplayer.org
[11:18] <nody> ok
[11:18] <nody> but i just need a example config file:D
[11:18] <simplexio> ¨/away
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> nody:  you dident bother to look in the mplayer docs dir? /usr/share/doc/mplayer?
[11:19] <rautamiekka> pallgone: Now we're seeing interesting errors. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/b6CBdms4
[11:19] <theadmin> ah nevermind, it seems it can only be changed with gconf now :/
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> nody:  or /etc/mplayer ? both have examples/settin files here.
[11:20] <jimbo2010> Hi this is bizarre! I downloaded ubuntu netbook remix and installed it to a usb - cannot login first time! What is the default username/password
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> jimbo2010:  ive seen that issue also. user is ubuntu, password is blank
[11:21] <nody> Dr_Willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77329.html
[11:21] <nody> Dr_Willis: that's what i was looking for
[11:21] <jimbo2010> dr_willis - just tried it - no luck
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> jimbo2010:  you could have a bad burn/install/file. go to the console see ifyou can set a password.
[11:22] <jimbo2010> ok Dr_willis
[11:23] <slimjimflim> does wubi run on top of windows or is it stand alone?
[11:23] <jimbo2010> no dr_willis I have no access to console must be a bad iso?
[11:23] <theadmin> slimjimflim: It is just like a regular install, except it installs to a file
[11:23] <rautamiekka> slimjimflim: By what I understand, Wubi is an native Window$ software
[11:24] <rautamiekka> , which emulates Ubuntu, or something.
[11:24] <jrib> slimjimflim: it doesn't run on top of windows, the filesystem is just a file on the windows partition that grub loads
[11:24] <slimjimflim> theadmin: but it doesn't partition anything does it?
[11:24] <theadmin> slimjimflim: No.
[11:24] <slimjimflim> what are the disadvantages?
[11:24] <slimjimflim> if any
[11:24] <theadmin> slimjimflim: It's slower and it can't hibernate/suspend
[11:25] <jrib> slimjimflim: the faq on the wubi site lists one, it's also probably slower
[11:25] <slimjimflim> that's what i thought
[11:25] <jrib> slimjimflim: "Hibernation is not supported under Wubi, moreover Wubi filesystem is more vulnerable to hard-reboots (turning off the power) and power outages than a normal filesystem, so try to avoid unplugging the power. An Ubuntu installation to a dedicated partition provides a filesystem that is more robust and can better tolerate such events."
[11:26] <slimjimflim> ok cool
[11:26] <slimjimflim> thanks
[11:28] <rautamiekka> theadmin, jrib: While we're still on the Wubi subject, I'm under the impression that you can't build the Wubi-installed Ubuntu into system ready for serving files and stuff, can you ? Like no network connectivity.
[11:28] <jrib> rautamiekka: I don't see why not
[11:29] <theadmin> rautamiekka: It has network o_o why the heck would it not have any?
[11:29] <theadmin> rautamiekka: It has ALL features except for hibernation/suspending
[11:29] <rautamiekka> theadmin: Oh, nice. I just was in that impression.
[11:30] <tatie> hello! can anyone help me - how do i resize the picture in a simple way (without going to GIMP). For example to change pics resolution form 800x600 to 640x468
[11:30] <erUSUL> tatie: use mogrify or convert from imagemagik
[11:30] <tatie> f-spot doesn't seem to have this option
[11:30] <erUSUL> tatie: command line programs...
[11:31] <theadmin> rautamiekka: If you can, do a normal install though, much faster.
[11:31] <nucc1> how can I manually start the tracker daemon?
[11:31] <theadmin> nucc1: Unsure what's the service name, but most likely it'd be something in the likes of "sudo service trackerd start"
[11:32] <rautamiekka> tatie: Does this work for you ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96333 <- but be sure to make duplicates of files before running that.
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> tatie:  thhe ImageMagick command line tools can do that
[11:33] <nucc1> theadmin, unrecognized service. guess i have to reboot :(
[11:33] <adelejjeh> i am trying to install build-essential, but it gives me an error "the following packages have unresolvable dependancies" the packages are libc6-dev and g++
[11:33] <adelejjeh> any ideas?
[11:33] <jrib> adelejjeh: did you use any repositories not meant for you version of ubuntu in the past?  Did you manually install any debs?
[11:34] <tatie> no i am not looking for CLI, but for GUI interface. Such as irfanview in windows that enables you to view and do basic editing of pictures (such as resizing, crop, adding text etc.) GIMP takes too long to load and is not good for viewing and selecting images.
[11:34] <adelejjeh> jrib: i only manually installed crossover
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> tatie:  irfanview works in wine :)
[11:34] <jrib> tatie: if f-spot can't do it (it probably can), maybe try gthumb
[11:34] <zipper> hi any1 know how to install login theme?
[11:34] <jrib> adelejjeh: run "sudo apt-get update" and verify it still happens please
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  you sure you are not trying to use a GDM 1 theme on the newer gdm2 ? those wont work
[11:35] <zipper> Dr_Willis: is gdm2 themes out yet?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  theres a few in the repos. but i dont pay much attention to  the progress f themes for it
[11:35] <tatie> f-spot imports everythign and then upon exporting it gives a different resolution instead of WYSIWIG change. will try gthumb
[11:35] <theadmin> zipper: gdm2 does not support themes directly, you need a third-party tool like ubuntu-tweak
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  theres a tool called 'epidermis' that let you change them also.
[11:36] <nody> what's wrong with this my fullhd movies are lagging
[11:36] <zipper> Dr_Willis: i wanna change the wallpaper?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> tatie:  you could always write a script to do it - and make a nautilus menu for that
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  thats rather trivial. Many tools out can do that.
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  or find the origial file and alter it. :)
[11:36] <zipper> Dr_Willis: where is the original file?
[11:36] <moes> Lucid 10.04...2 harddrives ..250gb Window xp...80 gb Linux...From the menu when I open 250 gb I see the window programs...What program do I need to install to display those programs
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  'gdm2setup' can change that
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  its in /usr/share/backgrounds (i think)
[11:37] <zipper> Dr_Willis: i've got this gnome display manager gdm
[11:38] <zipper> Dr_Willis: are we able to edit gdm stuff there?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> gdm by default uses the /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png   it seems
[11:38] <oal> When I run aptitude install it wants to remove a package with unsatisfied dependencies, but the software works, so I don't want to uninstall it. How can I override it to keep it?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  just edit that file as root.. and it will change it.. is one way
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  or use one of the MANY 3rd party tools out to select a different image
[11:38] <jrib> oal: what software?  Why does it not have the dependency?
[11:39] <zipper> Dr_Willis: i am inside backgrounds but how to alter it?
[11:39] <adelejjeh> jrib: some packages are failing. what could be the problem?
[11:39] <oal> "groovesharkdesktop.7f9bf17d6d9cb2159c78a6a6ab076ea0b1e0497c.1", or Grooveshark Desktop, a music client something like Spotify. It needs Adobe Air
[11:39] <CaptainTrek> adelejjeh:  which ones on what repos?
[11:39] <oal> But Adobe Air is installed
[11:39] <jrib> adelejjeh: pastebin
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  alter it however you want.. copy a different one to that files name.. or load it im a image editor...
[11:40] <oal> jrib, it says Adobe Air is a virtual package
[11:40] <zipper> Dr_Willis: i meant how do i even set it to a particular wallpaper that i want
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Adobe Air is a little special in how it installed i recall. it was sort of weird
[11:40] <adelejjeh> jrib: its in the reload in the synaptic package manager, not in the terminal. i cant paste
[11:40] <oal> Dr_Willis, can I override it somehow?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  sudo cp yourdogspictgure.png  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png     is ONE WAY.. (get the idea?)
[11:41] <w83> hi
[11:41] <zipper> ouh
[11:41] <zipper> Dr_Willis: okay i will try
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> oal:  ive not had any issues with it. Most air programs use the air installer/uninstaller.
[11:41] <oal> Dr_Willis, grooveshark does too, but still this happens
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  or load up an image editor and edit it.. gksudo gimp /usr/share/bacXXXXXXX/whattever.png
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> oal:  ive only used one AIR app. :) and ive never really tried to Uninstall it.
[11:42] <oal> I don't want to uninstall and reinstall every time I'm installing another package or upgrading existing ones, Dr_Willis
[11:42] <Archandrei> #join /ubuntu-ru
[11:42] <w83> is it possible to set a different gtk theme for pidgin ?
[11:42] <jrib> adelejjeh: then do it in the terminal...
[11:42] <zipper> Dr_Willis: sudo cp space-05.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds/space-05.jpg     like this right?
[11:43] <Semperfi30> athlion: I'm having some issues
[11:43] <athlion> Semperfi30: yes,
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  that wont change the warty-final-ubuntu.png image...
[11:43] <athlion> Semperfi30: tell me
[11:43] <adelejjeh> CaptainTrek, the translation-en_us as well as the release.gpg, release and sources
[11:43] <Semperfi30> I'm on the live portion right now I was afraid to install because it told me that it was going to resize the partitions and that some of the partitions would be formatted
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  it just copies the file to that backgrounds dir. under the same name ;0
[11:43] <athlion> Semperfi30: nonono, don't do that!
[11:43] <Semperfi30> I didn't know which partitions were what so I didn't want it to format my windows partition
[11:43] <zipper> Dr_Willis: arggg i am confused
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  cp FILEYOUWANT  FILEYOUWANTTOCHANGE
[11:44] <athlion> Semperfi30: what you need to do is to specify yourself that you want ubuntu to be installed ontop of the old one
[11:44] <Semperfi30> Well it said install them side by side and at the bottom it said 10.04 was going to use like 200 gigabytes
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  if this is confuseing.. Youmay want to read up on some linux/shell basics first
[11:44] <Semperfi30> but I changed the size to like 30 gigabytes
[11:44] <jan-pieter> zipper: sudo cp space-05.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.jpg
[11:44] <athlion> Semperfi30: no, you will need to specify yourself the exact location for ubuntu
[11:44] <zipper> Dr_Willis: sudo cp space-05.jpg /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png   TADA AM I RIGHT?
[11:45] <Semperfi30> it didn't seem like there was a spot for that
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  looks more logical to me. :)
[11:45] <athlion> Semperfi30: i believe there is an option "I will specify the partitions"
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  see if it works
[11:45] <athlion> ow something like that
[11:45] <Semperfi30> it has manually specify
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  and rember CASE is imporntant
[11:45] <Semperfi30> (advanced)
[11:45] <zipper> Dr_Willis: case?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  LiNuX is a CaSe SeneSetiVe OperATINg SysTEM
[11:45] <athlion> Semperfi30: unfortunately, that is what you will need
[11:46] <Semperfi30> why is it unfortunate
[11:46] <zipper> Dr_Willis: and?
[11:46] <Semperfi30> cause it's complicated?
[11:46] <jan-pieter> Can anyone tell me if I should choose 32-bit or 64-bit? The documentation seems to indicate 64-bit is the way to go but on the download page it says that 64-bit is not recommended for daily use. :s
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> zipper:   space0-04.jpg is not the same as Space04.jpg so watch out for that.
[11:46] <athlion> Semperfi30: well, because its not "next-next-next-next-done". You will have to choose the location yourself. (It's easy, dont worry) :-)
[11:46] <jan-pieter> Oh one thing I want to be able to play my windows games and stuff on wine
[11:46] <SwedeMike> jan-pieter: 64bit if you plan to have 4 gigs of ram or more, 32bit if you short-term want stuff like flash etc to "just work"
[11:46] <athlion> Semperfi30: no, it's not complicated, it just has one more step
[11:46] <Semperfi30> well idk what dbsa or whatever means
[11:47] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  not everything will operate in ubuntu in terms of games, even with wine
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  I dont think renaming a jpg to be a .png is that good an idea. but it proberly wont hurt anythign either.
[11:47] <zipper> Dr_Willis: cp: cannot stat `space-05.jpg': No such file or directory
[11:47] <Semperfi30> maybe I can open it up and still talk to you while I do it?
[11:47] <Semperfi30> if I click install 10.04 will it take me out of xchat?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  you need to be in the proper dir, or use the full path.
[11:47] <jan-pieter> CaptainTrek: I know but does 64-bit affect that
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  cd /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:47] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  not really, its generally the same either way, 32bit or 64bit
[11:48] <CaptainTrek> Wine is Wine
[11:48] <zipper> Dr_Willis: sudo cp space-05.jpg cd /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  sudo cp spaceXXX.jpg waerty-final0buntu.png     or somting like that
[11:48] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  Wine is Wine... it won't be able to handle everything.
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  and what directory are you in right now at the terminal?
[11:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: no, it wont
[11:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: you can do that, yes
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  current working directory - is imporntant when using the commands like that
[11:48] <Semperfi30> ok
[11:48] <adelejjeh> jrib: http://pastebin.com/4Ry984JK that's just the begining its not done yet
[11:48] <anthony_> Hi.   I recently installed 10.4 on a toshiba laptop. I have no sound through the headphone jack, but DO through the speakers. Can anyone make a suggestion? thanks
[11:48] <erUSUL> !intelhda | anthony_
[11:48] <athlion> Semperfi30: but keep in mind that i will be leaving in 12 minutes exactly
[11:49] <Semperfi30> athlion: shouldn't be more than 10 minutes I'm guessing
[11:49] <Semperfi30> excluding installation time
[11:49] <w83> can I set a different, from the default, gtk-theme settings for just a certain app ?
[11:49] <jan-pieter> CaptainTrek: I know it won't be able to handle everything. But if I know It might be able to run 32-bit games on 64-bit linux then I'll choose 64-bit
[11:49] <athlion> Yes...
[11:50] <zipper> Dr_Willis: hmm not working at all
[11:50] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  as I said, it won't be able to handle MOST games.
[11:50] <adelejjeh>  jrib: http://pastebin.com/4Ry984JK that's just the begining its not done yet
[11:50] <zipper> Dr_Willis: keep getting crappy error
[11:50] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  emphasis on the word "MOST"
[11:50] <Semperfi30> Athlion is there another way I can contact you at a later date ?
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  bash basics.. if you dont give a full path.. then you need to be in the proper directory
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  -->   cd /usr/share/backgrounds/; sudo cp space-04.jpg  warty-final-ubuntu.png
[11:50] <Semperfi30> Ok
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  makes sence?
[11:50] <Semperfi30> Athlion: I've click specify partitions manually (advanced)
[11:50] <athlion> Semperfi30: you'll probably find me here again soon :-)
[11:50] <Semperfi30> now I click Forward ?
[11:50] <athlion> yes
[11:50] <athlion> clock forward
[11:50] <zipper> Dr_Willis: lemme try it
[11:51] <athlion> erm, click
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  look at the 'logic' behind it. :) its not rocket-surgery
[11:51] <Semperfi30> scanning discks
[11:51] <Semperfi30> Ok seee
[11:51] <Semperfi30> it says
[11:51] <Semperfi30> 360.1 GB
[11:51] <FloodBot3> Semperfi30: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <Semperfi30> sda1 (ntfs)
[11:51] <Semperfi30> idk what any of the devices are
[11:51] <moes>  Lucid 10.04...2 harddrives ..250gb Window xp...80 gb Linux...From the menu when I open 250 gb I see the window programs...What program do I need to install to display those programs
[11:52] <athlion> Semperfi30: sda1 (ntfs) is where your win7 is, don't touch it
[11:52] <athlion> Semperfi30: you should have some more, though, no?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  or identical task from any where ->   sudo cp /usr/share/backgrounds/space-04.jpg  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[11:52] <Semperfi30> /dev/sda1 ntfs, /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1 ntfs, free space, /dev/sdb5 ext4, /dev/sdb6 swap
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  notice the differance? :)
[11:52] <jan-pieter> CaptainTrek: I am perfectly aware of that. All I want to know is: If the program runs on win on a 32-bit linux. Will it still work on wine if wine runs on a 64-bit linux?
 gthumb is ok and just became default pci browser. thanks! bye.
[11:52] <athlion> Ok, go for /dev/sdb5
[11:52] <CaptainTrek> jan-pieter:  it might, it might not.  Don't go 64-bit unless you truly need it.
[11:52] <athlion> and sdb6 the swap
[11:52] <zipper> Dr_Willis: not really kinda lost here i've gotten this thingy kenneth@dimfus:~$ cd /usr/share/backgrounds/; sudo cp space-04.jpg  warty-final-ubuntu.png kenneth@dimfus:/usr/share/backgrounds$
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> jan-pieter:  ive never had any wine issues onmy 64bit machines.
[11:53] <jan-pieter> Thank for that
[11:53] <vishwanath> can some one help me out in establishing a lan between 2 laptops using ethernet - both run ubuntu !!!
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  so it worked.. it seems.
[11:53] <athlion> Semperfi30: your setup looks kind of weird
[11:53] <vishwanath> i am a begineer in ubuntu
[11:53] <athlion> Semperfi30: but anyway, select sdb5, and choose "/" as the mount point, leave ext4 and choose to format it
[11:53] <zipper> Dr_Willis: anything i must do next? or i can just close my terminal?
[11:53] <Semperfi30> I wish I could give you a screenshot I have a bad feeling about this
[11:53] <athlion> Semperfi30: don't worry, i got it
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  look in the directory - see if its changed
[11:54] <shadowmancer> I know this isn't the channel for it, and my apologies but i'm wondering if any C programmers could tell me what sprintf does, because i'm using it in a for loop and its preventing my counter x from incrementing
[11:54] <athlion> Semperfi30: then select sdb6 and choose to use as swap
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  nautilus /usr/share/backgrounds/
[11:54] <zipper> Dr_Willis: oh yea it works
[11:54] <Semperfi30> sdb6 is already set as swap
[11:54] <erUSUL> vishwanath: you need a crossover cable. connect the cable. configure the interfaces in networkmanager.
[11:54] <Semperfi30> sdb5 is the one with 9.04 on it cause it has 31.1 gb's
[11:54] <Semperfi30> i remember
[11:54] <athlion> Semperfi30: cool, just set sdb5 as the /
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  now for your homework.. write a script that does that for whatever image you tell it. :)
[11:54] <athlion> and choose to format it
[11:55] <Semperfi30> there is no "/"
[11:55] <Semperfi30> it has a list of things to set it to
[11:55] <vishwanath> erusul: yes sir, i have a crosscable , i connected them together , but was not able to configure the networkmanager, i dont know how to !!1
[11:55] <athlion> Semperfi30: well there is if you edit its properties
[11:55] <vishwanath> can u help me out
[11:55] <Semperfi30> i'm double clicking on it
[11:55] <athlion> yes
[11:55] <athlion> Semperfi30: can't you see a mount point or something like that?
[11:55] <Semperfi30> yes but it's greyed out
[11:55] <Semperfi30> and then above it says
[11:56] <erUSUL> vishwanath: right click on the network icon on the right upper corner. chopose "Edit connections" go to the wired tab and edit properties
[11:56] <Semperfi30> do not use as partition
[11:56] <athlion> duh?
[11:56] <athlion> what?
[11:56] <athlion> excuse me?
[11:56] <Semperfi30> it says
[11:56] <Semperfi30> Use as: "do not use as partition"
[11:56] <Semperfi30> and then it has a drop down menu
[11:56] <Semperfi30> with journaling file system
[11:56] <athlion> ok, "Use partition"
[11:56] <Semperfi30> fat16
[11:56] <Semperfi30> fat32
[11:56] <athlion> Select ext4
[11:56] <erUSUL> vishwanath: go to thwe ipv4 settings. set manual configuration.
[11:57] <Semperfi30> ok now the thing at the top
[11:57] <athlion> Semperfi30: ok, what about it?
[11:57] <Avasz> hi.. how can i change the size of the pop-down main menu.. length and all?
[11:57] <Semperfi30> I have two harddrives
[11:57] <Semperfi30> one has 360 gigabytes
[11:57] <Semperfi30> the other 600
[11:58] <athlion> well yes, that figures because we are talking about sdBx and not sdAx
[11:58] <Semperfi30> the one at the top you said was my windows 7 can't be correct because my windows 7 boots into a 600 gigabyte harddrive
[11:58] <GSF1200S> Avasz, I dont think you can
[11:58] <vishwanath> erusul: yes .. sir , i did all that yesterday .. but still i cound not get it .. i mean i assigned <IP_ADDRESS> to myself and <IP_ADDRESS> to the other laptop running mint ... the other laptop could detect a wired connection .. mine couldnot !! dont know why ??
[11:58] <Semperfi30> when I click on /dev/sdb
[11:58] <{g}> Hey People! Under ubuntu 10, where are the trash folders? ls /root/.Trash brings up nothing.
[11:59] <Semperfi30> it has sdb1 (ntfs) 576.1 gb's as the first partition
[11:59] <athlion> linux uses the naming scheme as sd{X}{Y} where X is disk "letter" (a, b, c, d, ...) and Y is the partition (1, 2, 3)
[11:59] <Semperfi30> which means it's my windows 7 in the 600 gb harddrive correct?
[11:59] <actionparsnip> yo yo yo
[11:59] <Avasz> GSF1200S, oh.. ok.. theni would better change the theme with bigger menus.
[11:59] <athlion> thus sdb5 means the 5th partition on the 2nd drive
[11:59] <athlion> Semperfi30: well, I don't really know
[11:59] <Semperfi30> which means all of my ubuntu stuff is on my 360 gb drive
[11:59] <Semperfi30> cause I remembered having the guy put windows 7 on a drive by itself
[11:59] <athlion> Semperfi30: look.
[12:00]  * {g} tries "find / -name *Trash*"
[12:00] <Semperfi30> I just want to make sure i"m not going to overwrite my windows 7 installation thats all
[12:00] <athlion> Semperfi30: sda1 is NTFS, which is a windows file system. This is the first partition of the first drive
[12:00] <moes>  Lucid 10.04...2 harddrives ..250gb Window xp...80 gb Linux...From the menu when I open 250 gb I see the window programs...What program do I need to install to display those programs
[12:00] <erUSUL> vishwanath: dunno either... checked the conf via « ifconfig » ?
[12:00] <athlion> Semperfi30: sdb1 is also NTFS which is also a windows file system. This is the first partition of the second drive
[12:01] <Semperfi30> That must be my corrupt windows installation because it has an "unknown" for the used column
[12:01] <GSF1200S> {g}, it should be in ~/.local/Trash
[12:01] <athlion> Semperfi30: then sdb5 is ext4, so this is where linux was and this is where you're installing it. Your windows could be on sda1 or sdb1, probably sda1, though
[12:01] <guntbert> !trash | {g}
[12:01] <{g}> GSF1200S: i found it in "/root/.local/share/Trash/files/"
[12:01] <athlion> Semperfi30: what do you mean corrupt?
[12:02] <vishwanath> erusul .. i have not used terminal sir, so i have no idea abt ifconfig in detail ... what am i to check in it ?? what shud i do ??
[12:02] <athlion> Semperfi30: do you have more than 1 windows installation?
[12:02] <Semperfi30> Well I had a corrupt installation of vista
[12:02] <guntbert> {g}: don't work as root regularly
[12:02] <Semperfi30> and I don't think he removed it
[12:02] <{g}> guntbert: why not?
[12:02] <Semperfi30> just moved it to another harddrive
[12:02] <Semperfi30> and put everything on the 600 gigabyte one
[12:02] <erUSUL> vishwanath: check that the card has the configuration you intended.
[12:02] <athlion> Semperfi30: between you and me, it looks as though that guy didn't exactly do a nice job on your disk setup....
[12:02] <erUSUL> vishwanath: ifconfig sdhould list all cards with its config
[12:02] <GSF1200S> {g}, thats ROOT's trash folder- the user trash folder is under your home folder/.local/trash
[12:02] <{g}> GSF1200S: i am root
[12:02] <guntbert> {g}: because the root account is meant for system administration only
[12:03] <Semperfi30> No we talked about everything it's the way we said it would be when we went over everything. It's just NOW doing this makes things a bit complicated
[12:03] <erUSUL> {g}: we do not support having root user enabled.
[12:03] <erUSUL> !root
[12:03] <{g}> guntbert: yeah its meant for that. but i use it for every day use :)
[12:03] <athlion> Semperfi30: anyway, just select sdb5, choose ext4 as the filesystem and / as the mount point
[12:03] <athlion> and you are ready to go
[12:03] <Semperfi30> I think I have it down now though. The first partition is my corrupted vista installation everything below that is installed on my 600 gb harddrive
[12:03] <guntbert> {g}: we don't support that here - you are on your own then
[12:03] <vishwanath> erusul : oh .. ok .. understood sir... will try again and see whether it works ... thanks a lot sir  !!! bye !!
[12:03] <actionparsnip> {g}: using root to run web browsers and IRC is REALLY dumb
[12:03] <erUSUL> vishwanath: no problem
[12:03] <Semperfi30> And what about sdb6
[12:04] <Semperfi30> do I need to make any changes to that
[12:04] <athlion> athlion: oh, and don't forget to select to format sdb5
[12:04] <nody> i need someone who uses gnome-mplayer + nvidia + padu and fullhd matroska movies
[12:04] <vishwanath> Erusual: one last doubt, shud the device be lo or eth0 ??
[12:04] <athlion> no, no changes to sdb6, just specify to use as swap
[12:04] <{g}> actionparsnip: i dont run web browsers as root. i just use a root terminal.
[12:04] <erUSUL> vishwanath: eth0 is your ethernet card
[12:04] <w83> what could be the reason that GTK2_RC_FILES=... gedit won't change the default theme for gedit ?
[12:04] <erUSUL> vishwanath: lo is 5the loopback interface
[12:04] <Semperfi30> Ok
[12:04] <Semperfi30> everything is setup
[12:04] <Diabolika> ciao
[12:04] <{g}> guntbert: who is "we"? i am part of "we" and i DO support being root.
[12:04] <vishwanath> erusul: what is a loopback interface used for sir ??
[12:05] <athlion> ok Semperfi30 you are good to go
[12:05] <Semperfi30> I'm hitting forward now we will see what ensues
[12:05] <athlion> what remains now is some questions about your timezone etc, which are relatively easy
[12:05] <athlion> don't hesitate to ask, if you need anything
[12:05] <Semperfi30> actually it asked me that in the beginning :P
[12:05] <oCean_> {g}: channel policy
[12:05] <erUSUL> vishwanath: for programs that want to communicate with othwer programs in the same machine. when you connect to localhost you do it via the lo interface
[12:05] <athlion> Semperfi30: oh, right :-)
[12:05] <{g}> oCean_: where is that?
[12:05] <guntbert> !noroot | {g} no, you are asking for help -- "we" is the ubuntu support community
[12:06] <vishwanath> erusul : oh ... ok understood .... thanks once again sir , bye !!
[12:06] <erUSUL> {g}: "we" as the people helping here.
[12:06] <{g}> erUSUL: that includes me then
[12:06] <erUSUL> vishwanath: no problem again. btw no need to call me "sir" ;)
[12:06] <nody> erUSUL: i'm getting lag on matroska 1080p movies and pdau ?
[12:06] <Semperfi30> paste.ubuntu.com
[12:06] <Semperfi30> oops
[12:06] <Semperfi30> how do I copy and paste stuff
[12:06] <actionparsnip> {g}: thats ok then
[12:06] <Semperfi30> just like normal?
[12:06] <FloodBot3> Semperfi30: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <cmichael> hello
[12:07] <Semperfi30> http://past.ubuntu.com
[12:07] <Semperfi30> umm...
[12:07] <erUSUL> {g}: if it includes you; then you should know better than use root for everyday use or have it enabled at all. ^.^
[12:07] <actionparsnip> {g}: using root for your dailies will possibly change ownership to root if you start messing with the files in your users home folder, which ni turn can make the system not log you in
[12:08] <{g}> erUSUL: different people, different approaches to life.
[12:08] <GSF1200S> hahah, jesus
[12:08] <actionparsnip> {g}: in short - it's not worth it considering the possible havoc it can cause, which is why Ubuntu advocates a no root policy
[12:08] <erUSUL> {g}: that's ok; but see !wfm like guntbert said
[12:08] <erUSUL> !wfm
[12:08] <actionparsnip> Semperfi30: copying from what to what?
[12:09] <actionparsnip> Semperfi30: copy the text, visit the site and paste the text, once submitted you copy the new address bar contents and paste here
[12:10] <moes>  Lucid 10.04...2 harddrives ..250gb Window xp...80 gb Linux...From the menu when I open 250 gb I see the window programs...What program do I need to install to display those programs
[12:10] <{g}> erUSUL: i believe in "works for me". i rather look at what successful people do then what the others agree on.
[12:10] <Semperfi30> http://past.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <{g}> erUSUL: "works for me" works for me so to say.
[12:10] <lungan> I did ran purge pulseaudio to get my Spotify work in Wine, now my spotify works, but my sound on youtube etc doesn't work, can anyone help me fix this problem?
[12:10] <actionparsnip> moes: if the app is portable it will run with wine, if its a normal app (most likely) then it simply won't run
[12:11] <Semperfi30> athlion: do I want to install a boot loader?
[12:11] <Semperfi30> Since I already have GRUB?
[12:11] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  what version of GRUB do you have, and what are you installing now?
[12:11] <Semperfi30> 10.04
[12:11] <Semperfi30> and idk the version
[12:11] <moes> actionparsnip, Thanks
[12:12] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30: it wont hurt to reinstall grub IMO
[12:12] <lungan> Is there anyway to get the clock to update automatically? Everytime i boot into windows xp and then boot back too linux the clock is wrong
[12:12] <Semperfi30> thats all it will do?
[12:12] <Semperfi30> it won't mess up the boot process or anything like that
[12:12] <Semperfi30> boot order
[12:12] <actionparsnip> lungan: you can use NTP to sync the clock with the internet at boot
[12:12] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  not if GRUB loads as it does now... it might mess with the order a little bit, but everything should still be there
[12:12] <lungan> actionparsnip, How do I do that?
[12:12] <rww> lungan: "wrong" as in several exact hours off?
[12:13] <Semperfi30> it loads as the main boot loader
[12:13] <Semperfi30> instead of the windows boot manager
[12:13] <actionparsnip> lungan: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[12:13] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  just as my system does xD
[12:13] <Semperfi30> and I pick either windows 7 or ubuntu
[12:13] <lungan> rww 5h and 5min wrong
[12:13] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  it should still do that
[12:13] <Semperfi30> Ok
[12:13] <Semperfi30> Just wanted to make sure
[12:13] <CaptainTrek> you can choose to not install though
[12:13] <Semperfi30> what will that do?
[12:13] <CaptainTrek> but you might not get it to detect 10.04 if its older
[12:13] <Semperfi30> oh
[12:13] <rww> lungan: which timezone are you in?
[12:13] <Semperfi30> well better safe than sorry
[12:13] <CaptainTrek> mhm
[12:14] <Semperfi30> but
[12:14] <Semperfi30> what partition does it need to install to?
[12:14] <Semperfi30> the boot loader that is
[12:14] <Semperfi30> does it automatically pick the right one?
[12:14] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30: it will figure it out if you're using the GUI isntaller
[12:14] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  it SHOULD
[12:14] <linxeh> I have access to a server via ssh, which is also on a private network with many other servers. at the moment I ssh into that server, then onto the others manually. I think there is a way to configure ssh to automatically handle the forwarding for me - can anyone point me in the right direction (eg so I can do ssh privateserver, and it initiates a connection to the public then onto the private)
[12:14] <Semperfi30> and if it doesn't I'll have a big problem...
[12:14] <Semperfi30> right?
[12:14] <lungan> rww UTC +2hours (summertime)
[12:15] <lungan> rww or CEST if you would like to
[12:15] <Semperfi30> it says /dev/sda
[12:15] <actionparsnip> lungan: you can use that guide so the systems resets the clock each boot from the ubuntu time server
[12:15] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, forgive my late entry, but what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:15] <GSF1200S> my scrollback doesnt get to the start of your questions..
[12:15] <lungan> actionparsnip, Yep following it right now, thank you very much
[12:15] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  in all the GUI installs I've done, its always figured out where to put the boot loader.  It should still work.  ask around though first as i'm just lucky xD
[12:15] <rww> lungan: hrm, not what I was thinking, then. try what actionparsnip's saying
[12:15] <pkkm> How to repeat a case statement?
[12:15] <nody> i need someone with nvidia+pdau+(gnome)-mplayer
[12:15] <actionparsnip> lungan: np bro
[12:15] <Semperfi30> i'm at the finall steps of installing 10.04 ontop of 9.04
[12:16] <Semperfi30> just have to click install
[12:16] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  then you MUST install the boot loader
[12:16] <actionparsnip> nody: i use the nvidia vdpau ppa for drivers
[12:16] <CaptainTrek> Semperfi30:  9.04's version of GRUB won't work with 10.04.  you MUST install the newer GRUB bootloader
[12:16] <CaptainTrek> no choice then
[12:16] <Semperfi30> mmm'kay
[12:16] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, what partition is Ubuntu going to be installed on?>
[12:16] <Semperfi30> partition #5
[12:17] <Semperfi30> SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as ext4
[12:17] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, /dev/sda5?
[12:17] <CaptainTrek> whats your current boot partition?
[12:17] <GSF1200S> ahh
[12:17] <CaptainTrek> as in which has the flag on it?
[12:17] <Semperfi30> actually
[12:17] <CaptainTrek> check with gparted
[12:17] <Semperfi30> thats the partition thats going to be formated
[12:17] <CaptainTrek> xD
[12:17] <Semperfi30> along with partition 6
[12:17] <Semperfi30> the ext4
[12:17] <Semperfi30> the partition that had 9.04 on it
[12:17] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, The bootloader should be installed to /dev/sdb then (note no number there)
[12:17] <Semperfi30> everything else is unchecked
[12:17] <Semperfi30> I have two windows loaders as well
[12:18] <Semperfi30> ones on another harddrive
[12:18] <Semperfi30> the other is along side the buntu installations
[12:18] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, You can have grub pick up the windows installs and add them to the grub menu- you should be able to manage them all from 10.04 grub installed to the mbr
[12:18] <Semperfi30> it says
[12:18] <Semperfi30> sda
[12:18] <Semperfi30> not sdb
[12:18] <Semperfi30> typo?
[12:18] <FloodBot3> Semperfi30: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:18] <killermask> hay guys !!!!!!!!!!
[12:19] <Semperfi30> dev/sda
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> You tell it to go to sdb it will default to sda most likely
[12:19] <rautamiekka> It would seem like pallgone is away
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> If i understand the conversation. :)
[12:19] <GSF1200S> Create a pastebin with the output from sudo fdisk -l, sudo blkid
[12:19] <Semperfi30> pastebin?
[12:19] <killermask> i git a question ,, am  new ubuntu user ,,,and am asking sould download all of updates on the update manager ????
[12:20] <Semperfi30> I'm running on live atm
[12:20] <Semperfi30> not 9.04
[12:20] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> killermask:  You want to stay up to date.  normally.
[12:20] <Semperfi30> Idk how to use that
[12:20] <vikas> hi all
[12:20] <Semperfi30> it made me make an open id account
[12:20] <Semperfi30> then it just converted the text and then I pasted it here and it looks exactly the same -.-"
[12:20] <GSF1200S> Basically, copy the terminal output and past it in the pastebin
[12:20] <GSF1200S> no, its free
[12:21] <Semperfi30> I know it's free
 thats means i should ???
[12:21] <Semperfi30> why do I need to do that though?
[12:21] <vikas> Dr_Willis, i an not been able to kill process plz help
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> killermask:  yes. You want to keep up to date
[12:21] <jrib> Semperfi30: give us the url you got so we can see what you see
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  killall command or 'kill -9 PID' normally works.
[12:21] <Semperfi30> oh
[12:21] <GSF1200S> ok, then never mind. I was just trying to see your partition scheme so I could tell you where to install grub, etc
 and i well got no proplems or system changes ???
[12:22] <vikas> ya not working
[12:22] <Semperfi30> http://paste.ubuntu.com/441709/
[12:22] <Semperfi30> Does this work?
[12:22] <vikas> i install killer too
[12:22] <Semperfi30> GSF1200S: did that link work?
[12:22] <vikas> i wanna kill xwinwrap
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> killermask:  Hmm? I normally have a few updates every week or so. It depends on what you install
[12:22] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, Well, that tells it what its going to change, but we need to see the partition scheme
[12:22] <actionparsnip> vikas: if you run:   ps -ef | grep processname    you can the kill by PID. You may need sudo if the process is not owned by you and use -9 like Dr_Willis said if it refuses
[12:22] <BjornLopez> Now I want to know who told the chimpout troll to come to digg?
[12:23] <Semperfi30> how do I show you that
[12:23] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, sudo fdisk -l && sudo blkid
[12:23] <kabal> ciao
[12:23] <BjornLopez> the asshole is telling me that #ubuntu told him to advertise his racist website on Digg
[12:23] <GSF1200S> run that in a terminal and paste the output in a pastebin
[12:23] <Semperfi30> in the terminal?
[12:23] <GSF1200S> yes
 thnx
[12:23] <BjornLopez> so you did gsf12005?
[12:23] <BjornLopez> why?
[12:24] <Semperfi30> thats not going to show you what I picked in gparted though
[12:24] <GSF1200S> BjornLopez, huh?
[12:24] <Semperfi30> is it?
[12:24] <jrib> BjornLopez: this channel is for ubuntu support only.  The channel is logged if you want, but please take the discussion elsewhere: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <Semperfi30> ugh now I have to start all over again
[12:24] <Semperfi30> I hit back on the installer -.-"
[12:24] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, No, I just want to see your windows install and the rest of your partitions
[12:24] <Semperfi30> to copy and paste the partition table
[12:24] <Astroe> NinoScript: You here?
[12:24] <BjornLopez> the chimpout troll is on Digg saying the #ubuntu told him to advertise his crappy website
[12:24] <BjornLopez> ok I will check the logs
[12:25] <Semperfi30> nvm it kept the changes
[12:25] <oal> Is it possible to run cron jobs more than once every hour?
[12:25] <GSF1200S> BjornLopez, what did you ask me?
[12:25] <jrib> oal: yeah, the first field is for minutes...
[12:25] <duckwars> how can I make a script run as a root user?
[12:25] <actionparsnip> oal: sure, you can run them every second if you wish
[12:25] <rww> oal: yes. I've found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron to be a useful reference on the syntax
[12:25] <oal> jrib, but I have 0 in that field, doesn't that mean every hour?
[12:26] <actionparsnip> duckwars: gksudo scriptname      if its to run at startup then reference it in /etc/rc.local
[12:26] <vikas> actionparsnip, vikas@vikas-desktop:~$ kill -9 xwinwrap PID
[12:26] <vikas> bash: kill: xwinwrap: arguments must be process or job IDs
[12:26] <vikas> bash: kill: PID: arguments must be process or job IDs
[12:26] <Semperfi30> HERE
[12:26] <Semperfi30> http://paste.ubuntu.com/441715/
[12:26] <jrib> oal: yes.  You can have more than 0 there
[12:26] <rww> oal: e.g.: "*/5 * * * *  /home/user/test.pl" is every five minutes
[12:26] <Semperfi30> Does that work?
[12:26] <jrib> !cron > oal
[12:26] <vikas> still not killing
[12:26] <Adamantus10> I just read this in the ubuntu docs: Software center: "In version 3, we plan to offer commercial software for sale"  Why?
[12:26] <oal> Thanks guys
[12:26] <actionparsnip> !ot | Adamantus10
[12:26] <duckwars> actionparsnip: so I have to run it as sudo?
[12:27] <erUSUL> Adamantus10: they want to make money.
[12:27] <actionparsnip> duckwars: if it runs wholly in terminal, yes otherwise use gksudo
[12:27] <duckwars> actionparsnip: and what do you mean by "reference" the scripts to /etc/rc.local
[12:27] <Semperfi30> GSF1200S: did that link work?
[12:27] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, yeah, it works fine- when it asks you about the bootloader, ensure installs to /dev/sdb
[12:27] <Hans_Henrik> duckwars: thats the general idea behind sudo
[12:27] <Semperfi30> how does the partition setup look?
[12:27] <actionparsnip> duckwars: if its to run at startup you can put scripts to be ran in /etc/rc.local and they will run just before gdm loads
[12:27] <vikas> linux
[12:28] <Adamantus10> But that was about ubuntu
[12:28] <actionparsnip> duckwars: put the name of the script above the exit 0 line
[12:28] <Semperfi30> I think one of the installations is a corrupted windows 7 install
[12:28] <oCean_> Adamantus10: this is technical support only. Welcome to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <actionparsnip> Adamantus10: it's not a support question for the Ubuntu OS, it's only ubuntu related which is what #ubuntu-offtopic is for
[12:29] <BjornLopez> This message has been approved by Kevin Rose and Digg.com for the benefit of Diggers everywhere.
[12:29] <BjornLopez> TIRED OF NIGGGGEEERRRS? SICK OF THEIR MONKEYSHINES? Do you recognize that the occasional civiized nignog is the exception that proves the rule? Then join Chimpout Forum!
[12:29] <BjornLopez> We are not Nazis or White Supremacists. Chimpout membership is open to all human races, and we have members who are Asian, Hispanic, White, Jewish, Arabic, Indian, Native American, etc. We welcome everybody with open arms EXCEPT FOR THE FERAL NEGRO BEAST! Chimpout even accepts gay members!
[12:29] <BjornLopez> http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[12:29] <FloodBot3> BjornLopez: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <duckwars> duckwars AHHHHHH, I thought I was supposed to put the actual script lines in there.... no just point to the scripts
[12:30] <Semperfi30> LOL
[12:30] <actionparsnip> duckwars: either is fine, using formed scripts and referencing them there is a bit neater
[12:30] <Semperfi30> did you see what lopez typed out....
[12:30] <Semperfi30> >.>
[12:30] <Semperfi30> <.<
[12:30] <actionparsnip> duckwars: remember to use an ampersand on the end if the command will run for the duration of the boot or gdm will never run
[12:30] <Semperfi30> GSF1200S: Are you alive?
[12:30] <rww> Semperfi30: yes, he was removed for it. Best to move on :)
[12:30] <GSF1200S> F'd up part is I think he said above that he was upset about that post
[12:31] <oCean_> Semperfi30: leave it alone
[12:31] <GSF1200S> not too smart to post it though
[12:31] <vangelis> I'm running 10.04 64bit. cheese freezes when I try to record video. I know the camera works because I use it on skype. any ideas? or any suggestions for another video recording application?
[12:31] <Semperfi30> Haha I've left it alone I just chuckled a bit :P
[12:31] <guntbert> GSF1200S: stop it please
[12:31] <Semperfi30> GSF1200S: You never told me what you thought about my partition tables???
[12:32] <duckwars> actionparsnip: this a headless server... do I want gdm to run?
[12:32] <GSF1200S> guntbert: stop what? Im not condoning what he did
[12:32] <LjL> but there is no need to comment it
[12:32] <duckwars> and why can't I sudo a script?
[12:32] <LjL> ignore the trolls please
[12:32] <karthik_> y is it saying for 64 bit Ubuntu 10.04 Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[12:32] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, Yes i did- they look fine- I just didnt want you to hose your partitions :)
[12:32] <guntbert> GSF1200S: stop discussing it - and please mind your language
[12:32] <Slart> duckwars: it's a security measure
[12:32] <Semperfi30> GSF1200S: You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
[12:32] <actionparsnip> duckwars: then it's just before the prompt appears
[12:32] <guntbert> !ot | Semperfi30
[12:32] <oCean_> karthik_: where did you read that?
[12:33] <Slart> duckwars: google for setuid script and you'll find lots of information about it.. I think one of the reasons is that a script is to easy to change
[12:33] <karthik_> oCean: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[12:33] <Slart> karthik_: where does it say that? on ubuntu.com?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> karthik_:  i use 64bit on my desktop for the last few years. with very little hassles.
[12:33] <GSF1200S> guntbert: I merely stated a fact and stopped at that- I used no swear words, and I wasnt disrespectful of anyone.
[12:33] <karthik_> Slart: yes its in Ubuntu's site
[12:33] <GSF1200S> so well leave it at that
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> karthik_:  and i find encoding of video faster with it.
[12:33] <rww> karthik_: It's a badly-worded attempt to convey that most users should use 32-bit because of theoretical compatibility problems (that I've never had) and because 32-bit will run on all x86 computers whereas 64-bit won't.
[12:34] <rww> karthik_: there's a bug open about said wording being bad, I believe
[12:34] <GSF1200S> Semperfi30, I agree :) Looks good man- and even if we have issues, we can chroot into your ubuntu install and fix grub :)
[12:34] <karthik_> Y is that mentioned in Ubuntu's main download site itself ?
[12:34] <GSF1200S> shouldnt though
[12:34] <oCean_> karthik_: ah, probably because some software (like flash) is not optimized, still lots of us use 64 bit for daily usage
[12:34] <Hans_Henrik> how can i set up a ftp server?
[12:34] <Slart> karthik_: hmm.. you're right.. it does say that.. how silly. I've run 64bit desktop for two years now.. no problems at all
[12:34] <Semperfi30> guntbert: I am here for technical support. I do not appreciate your condescending attitude. I'd like to know under whose authority you are acting to be rule enforcer of this Channel. If you tell me that then I will happily oblige by your enforcement.
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> karthik_:  and the amount of ram you have is?  if =4gb or over.. you may want to use 64bit.
[12:35] <rautamiekka> Hans_Henrik: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[12:35] <nody> 1080p HDTV H.264 Playback in Linux
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> karthik_:  if you do lots of cpu intensive tasks (like i do) you may want 64bit
[12:35] <nody> i need help with this it lags
[12:35] <rww> karthik_: aforementioned bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/585940
[12:35] <karthik_> Slart: I ve just bought a 64 bit laptop  just for trying out  ubuntu with ati graphics card .. Any one's facing anyproblem with 64 bit ..
[12:35] <jebediah> nody: install windows
[12:35] <actionparsnip> nody: could set a lower nice value to the player
[12:35] <monkey_dust> hi, where can i get linux-headers-2.6.32-18-generic-pae? it's not in the repositories
[12:35] <actionparsnip> jebediah: hardly constructive
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> nody:  with what player?
[12:35] <jebediah> but its effective!
[12:36] <Slart> karthik_: give 64bit a try.. as I said.. I've had no problems running 64bit both on my desktop and my laptop
[12:36] <karthik_> Dr_Willis: mine is 4gb ram, core 2 duo, 512 mb ati raedon
[12:36] <SwedeMike> nody: with vdpau is works just fine to play 1080p h264 on an atom ion under linux.
[12:36] <guntbert> Semperfi30: its the channel's rule to keep discussions to ubuntu support only - so please adhere to that and don't discuss other topics
[12:36] <karthik_> Slart: Sure  .. I ll give a try ..
[12:36] <actionparsnip> SwedeMike: getting one of them ions soon, looks sweeeeeeet
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> karthik_:  with exactly 4gb - i would say go for the 64bit then
[12:37] <karthik_> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[12:37] <karthik_> Slart : thanks
[12:37] <Slart> karthik_: you're welcome
[12:37] <rautamiekka> I've used WinServer 2008 R2, which is 64-only, and I'm so satisfied with the performance on 4GB RAM. But get Win7 Ultimate x64 instead, this WinServer is a pain to configure.
[12:37] <actionparsnip> nody: lower nice value means more cpu time is given the the process, the default is zero but a nice value of -5 may help
[12:37] <vikas>  if i wanna make graphical program to use .gif for bg that what i should do
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  clarify what you are doing.
[12:38] <Slart> vikas: gif?  for a background?  why?
[12:38] <nody> actionparsnip: a value of -5 to what? config file?
[12:38] <jebediah> vikas is obviously a dumb smelly indian
[12:38] <rww> jebediah: that's inappropriate for this channel.
[12:39] <Semperfi30> guntbert: I've been here for technical support up until you started to decide what topics are and aren't considered to be of a technical support matter. Of which I must respectfully disagree as I've been on the "technical support" state of mind since I joined this channel. But, I digress. I'm moving on now. Continue pointing out non technical support topics if you wish though. I will go elsewhere with my questions if necessary.
[12:39] <plouffe> can someone just kick that Semperfi30 idiot
[12:39] <actionparsnip> nody: look into nice and renice
[12:39] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[12:40] <guntbert> plouffe: even if you disagree with him - stay polite please
[12:40] <Slart> plouffe: leave it to the ops.. no need for name calling
[12:40] <vikas> i used mplayer and xwinwrap to play .gif as my bg now i wanna make a software for this
[12:40] <chikatambun> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/eGLAPJCU
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  sounds like you got a lot of learning to do..  and a background obession.
[12:41] <monkey_dust> hi, where can i get linux-headers-2.6.32-18-generic-pae? it's not in the repositories or launchpad
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  you basically want to make a script that calls mplayer and xwinwrap as needed?
[12:43] <vikas> Dr_Willis, which script should i know c+ python perl what
[12:43] <Slart> monkey_dust: I think the repositories have moved on to -21 .. not sure if you can get the older package anywhere
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  flip a coin..  learn them all.  C++ is not a 'scripting language' also..
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  python is proberly the easiest to learn
[12:43] <histo> vikas: you could use bash.
[12:44] <vikas> ok
[12:44] <vikas> thnx all
[12:44] <histo> vikas: once you learn one language they are all easy to pick up.
[12:44] <histo> vikas: most people start with C or a variant
[12:44] <nody> achilles: hmm
[12:45] <nody> achilles: nice gnome-mplayer file.mkv ?
[12:45] <PrototypeX29A> histo: as long as you don't go for an insane language like brainfsck or perl
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Python -  i would say is proberly the easiest to get 'started' in  - and has enough power you wont outgrow it  very soon :)
[12:45] <chikatambun> http://dpaste.com/201040/
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Python = lots of docs/tutorials/guides  :)
[12:45] <minimec> vikas: I guess vala+genie could be a good start, as the code will be c...
[12:45] <achilles> nody, sorry ?
[12:45] <guntbert> chikatambun: what is the matter with those pastes?
[12:46] <nody> achilles: what? :D
[12:47] <achilles> achilles: hmm
 achilles: nice gnome-mplayer file.mkv ?
[12:47] <guntbert> !here | chikatambun
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> You Want to give a # to the niceness level
[12:50] <raven> how to use both cpu-cores with ffmpeg?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> raven:  theres a command line option i recall from   what docs i was reading a few weeks ago about that
[12:51] <raven> Dr_Willis, i was looking for but i do not find this option
[12:51] <vikas> Dr_Willis, is it possible to change splash screen in ubuntu 10.04
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> raven:  i saw it mentioned somwerhe. i dont recall what it was. I read a LOT of different docs on ffmpeg about a 2 weeks ago.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  yes.. and i dont bother. :)
[12:52] <actionparsnip> vikas: do you mean plymouth?
[12:52] <raven> how to use both cpu-cores with ffmpeg?
[12:53] <vikas> Dr_Willis, because i search many forms all thes say u cant
[12:53] <vikas> actionparsnip, my own
[12:53] <val_> can I show layout as flags in gnome?
[12:53] <vikas> actionparsnip, i have matrix .gif wanna make my splash
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  i never said it was easy.
[12:54] <nody> ok well nice aint' working either.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  there are some alternative plymouth screens in the repos you can use. so you 'can' change it.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> nody:  are you using it properly? whats the exact command line you are using
[12:54] <nody> Dr_Willis: just nice gnome-mplayer files.mkv
[12:55] <vikas> Dr_Willis, thnx to guide but i wanna make mine
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> nody:  its defaulting to the default nice level of '10' then.  you need to tell it a lower/negative nice level
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  good luck with that.
[12:55] <vikas> ok thnx
[12:56] <vikas> Dr_Willis, have u ever modify some thing in ubuntu before
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  i tweak all sorts of things.
[12:56] <vikas> good
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> vikas:  thats a major point of linux. if you  know enough you can change anything
[12:57] <dekroning> how can i change the default bootup image ?
[12:57] <baraka84> hi i configure a vpn connection with network manager, but when i click on connect nothin happens
[12:57] <raven> how to use both cpu-cores with ffmpeg?
[12:57] <val_> that keybiard layout indicator in lucid is so fcking lame, hot to put the old back?
[12:57] <vikas> Dr_Willis, how much time it will take to learn linux its my 7th day
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> vikas:   You never stop learning.
[12:57] <nody> Dr_Willis: ok working on 5 now
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> raven:  from the docs i am reading   --threads option
[12:58] <val_> vikas, u cannot learn linux because they change it all the way
[12:58] <vikas> ya know that
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> raven:  or --enable-pthreads
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> The fundamentals i learned 10 yrs ago still apply :)
[12:58] <vikas> but the basic such file system, conf, etc
[12:59] <val_> 10 years ago we have only rpms, rc.conf and xfree86 lol
[12:59] <vikas> ok
[12:59] <dekroning> i'm trying to changed the splash screen if usplash, but i can't get it installed in 10.04 how to change the splash screen in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> 10.04 dosent use usplash any more. it uses Plymouth. and thats a little tougher to change. :)
[13:00] <nody> Dr_Willis: ok still lags when i get a big movie picture of a open plane
[13:00] <val_> but still i appreciate someone top tell how replace that stupid keyboard layout indicator with normmal one
[13:00] <nody> Dr_Willis: i had like ½year ago mplayer with pdau with partermesr in config file but now i cant find it.
[13:01] <raven> Dr_Willis, no effect but also no error message....
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> nody:  i dident even think thta pdau existed 6 mo ago.. then again my card dosent support it.
[13:01] <vikas> m not getting temp rating in my system info and also wanna voltage rating acpi is not working
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> I can play HD here on my 8800gtsxxx withgout it.
[13:02] <nody> Dr_Willis: i got a 8800gts too :D
[13:02] <nody> Dr_Willis: but it lags up when a big scenary
[13:02] <nody> Dr_Willis: could my nvidia be broken?