[08:18] <eggzeck> apathy: sort of in and out, i'm also busy reading the perlfunc man page
[08:18] <vladuz976> graft: not sure, i am doing this for my teacher, for our nuclear class, converting the file to latex to put it online
[08:18] <apathy> oic
[08:18] <apathy> should I reboot?
[08:18] <eggzeck> apathy: wait, you'll also need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <vladuz976> graft: he just said that he wrote it years ago in dos and that all characters are ACSII
[08:18] <apathy> ack
[08:18] <apathy> that file didnt go so well last time i tried to edit it
[08:18] <apathy> infact
[08:18] <Xyloc> When I login with su to the terminal, everything works
[08:19] <graft> vladuz976: um. you could write a perl script to do it pretty easily
[08:19] <apathy> i was locked in console for about 2 hours haha
[08:19] <vladuz976> graft: i don't know perl
[08:19] <mustard5> xyloc you edited the /etc/sudoers file with visudo?
[08:19] <eggzeck> apathy: pastebin it, I will try my best to help
[08:19] <apathy> till I figured out how to get it to reset the file to update
[08:19] <vladuz976> graft: i though sed would be a candidate for this
[08:19] <apathy> pastebin?
[08:20] <orbin> vladuz976: dos2unix maybe?
[08:20] <Xyloc> mustard: Not yet, I'm a bit afraid I might break something important
[08:20] <apathy> is that like copy paste it all in a  msg to yoiu?
[08:20] <graft> vladuz976: sure, sed too
[08:20] <vladuz976> orbin: i did that already, didn't do much
[08:20] <eggzeck> apathy: http://www.pastebin.com
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, k well the visudo command is for editing sudoers
[08:21] <ppcguy> hey all just upgraded to dapper, and lost all my login choices ie flux, kde, gnome yadda yadda.. trying to get it back. Where should I look? been trollin the forum for a bit
[08:21] <Xyloc> I've started it, yes...
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, you can just copy the bottom line and substitute your username in the place where the previous line has 'root'
[08:21] <mustard5> Xyloc, thats the easiest way to add yourself to sudoers
[08:21] <vladuz976> graft: you know how i could get rid of this "<80>" character that appears in my file?
[08:22] <hastesaver> vladuz976, you want to convert <80>c to {\em c} (where c is a single character) -- is that it?
[08:22] <graft> vladuz976: you could do like: cat <file> | sed 's/[^a-zA-Z0-9\s] //g'
[08:22] <mustard5> Xyloc, some sudoers are set up with a %adm group and you add your user the the adm group to get sudoers
[08:22] <apathy> what do i put in name?
[08:22] <apathy> apathy? or an mail address
[08:22] <graft> vladuz976: plus whatever other characters you want to retain...
[08:22] <eggzeck> apathy: perhaps 'apathy'? :P
[08:22] <hastesaver> vladuz976, make sure you retain your original file (i.e, back it up)
[08:22] <apathy> oic...
[08:22] <apathy> weird page
[08:22] <orbin> ppcguy: fyi, #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions
[08:22] <Xyloc> thx Mustard, I really appreciate it.
[08:22] <eggzeck> apathy: did you also get linux-restricted-modules-*?
[08:23] <ppcguy> thanx
[08:23] <mustard5> Xyloc, how did it go?
[08:23] <Xyloc> Well, I'm used to vi and Ubuntu gave me a different editor.
[08:23] <apathy> ahhh right on, nifty page...
[08:23] <apathy> I will bookmark that one
[08:23] <mustard5> Xyloc, k...ctr + o to save  ctrl + x to exit
[08:24] <vladuz976> hastesaver: that is correct except for this. let's say the word "nucleus" is written in italics then it appears as "<80>n<80>u<80>c<80>l<80>e<80>u<80>s"
[08:24] <eggzeck> apathy: yupp, I can even edit it, and then give you link, and you can paste it into your file :)
[08:24] <eggzeck> apathy: did you get what I asked?
[08:24] <hastesaver> vladuz976, yes, but it's easier to convert each character individually -- it will make a mess of your latex file, though :)
[08:24] <mustard5> Xyloc, check the filename it is saving to on the way out...I see it sometimes choosing sudoers.temp for the name of the file to save
[08:25] <mustard5> Xyloc, not sure why it does that ..maybe its supposed to  :)
[08:25] <hastesaver> vladuz976, you can do that (convert it to italics, char by char) using sed (except that I don't know sed enough). I could probably do it in Emacs, though...
[08:25] <Zane42> I'm trying to get realplayer working.  I've downloaded it from the realplayer website.  Ran the bin file and followed the instructions as I understand them.  But when I try to bring up trailer in firefox I get... Click here to download plugin.  What am I doing wrong?
[08:25] <mustard5> Xyloc, I usually just take the temp part off and save as 'sudoer'
[08:25] <vladuz976> graft: your sed thing is cool too, but it gets rid of the white space between words
[08:25] <Xyloc> mustard, that's true, because of the special nature of visudo
[08:25] <apathy> linux-restricted-modules-*?
[08:25] <Zane42> I can run realplayer just fine from the command prompt.
[08:25] <apathy> i will apt-get install em now
[08:25] <pvd2006> nickrud: ok now I got all those packages installed again
[08:25] <pvd2006> going to try this again
[08:25] <eggzeck> apathy: yes, where the "*" will be replace with your kernel version
[08:26] <vladuz976> hastesaver: basically anything that does the job would be ok, it's just 23 chapters and i don't wanna do it by hand
[08:26] <apathy> 5.10? or breezy?
[08:26] <Zane42> Breezy
[08:26] <Xyloc> mustard: su works fine, sudo doesn't (Yet)
[08:26] <eggzeck> apathy: no
[08:26] <mustard5> Xyloc, k..I'd check the edit
[08:26] <eggzeck> apathy: do this: uname --kernel-version
[08:26] <nickrud> apathy, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:26] <graft> vladuz976: err... i guess sed doesn't like \s, you can use \ \t instead
[08:27] <vladuz976> graft: hastesaver i think the "<80>" stands for a single character too
[08:27] <mustard5> Xyloc, as I say it sometimes saves it to a sudoer.tmp file instead of sudoers
[08:27] <hastesaver> vladuz976, do you really want the italics? I don't see why nucleus should be italicized there ;) And what are all the ^T1^T.^T2  characters at the top?
[08:27] <eggzeck> apathy: after issuing the: uname --kernel-version (that's what you put into there(
[08:27] <mustard5> Xyloc, you can pastebin the file if you like
[08:27] <vladuz976> hastesaver: i don't know either, but that is just an example, mostly it's like "e" for electron so it stands out
[08:27] <eggzeck> apathy: example: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386 (which is mine)
[08:28] <Xyloc> I'm chatting on a different box than I'm configuring, but thx anyway
[08:28] <mustard5> Xyloc, you want me to pastebin my for an example?
[08:28] <Xyloc> mu: I thing I get the Idea
[08:29] <eggzeck> apathy: so I would do this: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-386
[08:29] <Xyloc> The edit of sudoers went without a glitch
[08:29] <apathy> i have newest version already i guess lol
[08:29] <eggzeck> apathy: but replace my version with yours
[08:29] <apathy> so uname was a variable storing the version data?
[08:29] <Zane42> Anyone?
[08:29] <apathy> cool
[08:29] <Xyloc> mu, is it ok if I open a private chat? the room is a bit buisy...
[08:29] <mustard5> Xyloc, k :)
[08:30] <hastesaver> vladuz976, in general, there's no way out. You can't create structure where there is no structure, etc. LaTeX will possibly choke on 10^F-^G^G, etc
[08:30] <eggzeck> apathy: actually uname is a program that prints system information
[08:30] <mustard5> Xyloc, yeah thats fine
[08:30] <apathy> oic
[08:30] <apathy> there went that little bit of comprehension i thought i had haha
[08:31] <graft> LaTeX will be unhappy about things like % signs... but probably he'll have to do some formatting by hand anyway
[08:31] <vladuz976> hastesaver: yes, that and other math i have to do by hand, but ther is just so much italics that i want to get rid off.
[08:31] <apathy> no matter, once im up and running i have time to get better
[08:31] <hastesaver> apathy, same thing -- $var gives the value of a variable, $(command) gives the output of that command :)
[08:31] <vladuz976> hastesaver: from there it's easy to just make every single "e" italic
[08:31] <mustard5> Xyloc, only registered users can PM btw..are you registered?
[08:31] <apathy> awesome
[08:31] <eggzeck> apathy: just get that damn restricted modules :P
[08:31] <apathy> ...
[08:31] <hastesaver> vladuz976, then you can just remove all the <80> characters
[08:31] <eggzeck> apathy: I was joking, hehe :)
[08:31] <apathy> it ran a while ago
[08:31] <apathy> said i was up to date
[08:32] <vladuz976> hastesaver: don't know how, it seems to be a single characer
[08:32] <apathy> guessing you didnt see it heh
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: okay then, now all you need is to show me your xorg.conf
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: if you don't hilight me, I won't see jack
[08:32] <eggzeck> apathy: do you see the channels traffic?
[08:32] <eggzeck> hehe :p
[08:32] <hastesaver> vladuz976, open the file in an editor (Emacs, say), copy that character. Do replace (paste that character) with (blank) .
[08:32] <apathy> its been posted for a few ago
[08:32] <apathy> better?
[08:33] <vladuz976> hastesaver: good idea, thanks
[08:33] <eggzeck> apathy: give me link again, and include my nick in your messages ;)
[08:33] <eggzeck> apathy: as I'm doing :)
[08:33] <Xyloc> I'm not registered to this channel, no
[08:33] <pvd2006> why is it that when I go to delete packages it wants to remove stuff like ubuntu-desktop?
[08:33] <mustard5> Xyloc, k
[08:33] <apathy> eggzeck: http://pastebin.com/724092
[08:33] <apathy> :}
[08:33] <untung> hi, how do you install java programming in unbutu?
[08:33] <vladuz976> hastesaver: i get pattern not found for it
[08:34] <Xyloc> mu: I'm trying sudo out now...
[08:34] <nickrud> pvd2006, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, a list of packages that the desktop depends on. If you remove one of those packages, it'll remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <apathy> red now?
[08:34] <mustard5> Xyloc, k
[08:34] <eggzeck> apathy: okay I will edit it.
[08:34] <orbin> ubotu: tell untung about java
[08:34] <hastesaver> vladuz976, make sure you copy paste the character, instead of typing <80> by hand. And you'll probably have to be at the top of the file, some editors only replace ahead of the point in the file.
[08:35] <eggzeck> apathy: while I do that, run this please: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BACKUP
[08:35] <apathy> will do
[08:35] <Xyloc> mu:No, it doesn't work, su does however, but that won't work in GNOME
[08:36] <mustard5> Xyloc, there must be problem with your edit..or it saved to the wrong file ..thats my guess
[08:36] <hastesaver> apathy, if you're using Xchat, you can type eg<TAB> :)
[08:36] <apathy> hastesaver, nice
[08:36] <apathy> hastesaver, thanks
[08:36] <mustard5> Xyloc, check syntax again?
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, nice tip heh
[08:37] <vladuz976> hastesaver: no, it can't find it
[08:37] <pvd2006> I need to check and make sure im deleting the right ones
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, backed up
[08:37] <mustard5> Xyloc, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14201   <<my sudoers file
[08:37] <Xyloc> mu: I tried saving to /etc/sudoers via visudo, but it reports:
[08:37] <eggzeck> apathy: okay, now wait for your xorg.conf, I'm working on it
[08:37] <pvd2006> does purge remove config files and the binary files?
[08:37] <apathy> eggzeck, you rock man
[08:38] <apathy> i was in here earlier today and was almost completely ignored
[08:38] <hastesaver> vladuz976, oh, try escaping the backlashes or something. Or type C-q before pasting the character (if it's Emacs)... something, you should be able to :)
[08:39] <pvd2006> im going to have to read the manual pages for aptitude, its confusing
[08:39] <Xyloc> mu: thx for the paste...It looks exactly the same as my sudoers file, except the username of course...
[08:39] <apathy> resulting from that I killed my xorg.conf file.... i.e. no graphical display
[08:39] <graft> vladuz976: that sed trick didn't work?
[08:39] <mustard5> Xyloc, so what is it reporting when you save?
[08:39] <apathy> i.e. me in a command prompt and no klnowledge of commands lol
[08:39] <vladuz976> graft: did, except for the "<80>" stuff
[08:39] <hastesaver> graft, it's some character which displays as <80>
[08:39] <hasan> does anyone have any good advice for guide in learning command promt
[08:40] <graft> um
[08:40] <Xyloc> mu: file /etc/sudoers unchanged
[08:40] <mustard5> Xyloc, what exactly is happening when you use sudo?
[08:40] <apathy> superuser do
[08:40] <mustard5> Xyloc, does it just drop the the next line?
[08:40] <apathy> it runs a command as if you were root
[08:40] <orbin> pvd2006: iirc, purge removes the files that package installs + the package cache
[08:40] <Xyloc> mu: No it says I'm using the wrong password.
[08:41] <mustard5> Xyloc, k..well change your password for your user and see what happens
[08:41] <Xyloc> mu: Still, su works fine, so that can't be it.
[08:41] <mustard5> Xyloc, sudo uses the user password
[08:41] <apathy> su is switch user in ubuntu
[08:41] <hastesaver> hasan, There's nothing to a command prompt; you type a command, it runs it. You just need to know what commands exist :)
[08:41] <apathy> and what they do haha
[08:41] <apathy> try this in dos man
[08:42] <apathy> deltree C:\**
[08:42] <Xyloc> mu: strange settings, I thought it would use the root passwd instead.
[08:42] <apathy> theres a command heh
[08:42] <Xyloc> mu : Here goes nothing.
[08:42] <mustard5> Xyloc, no..sudo is for the superuser to use
[08:42] <hastesaver> apathy, don't do that. People will try it, and there will be much bitterness...
[08:42] <eggzeck> apathy: almost done
[08:43] <apathy> hastesaver, no . means no work heh
[08:43] <apathy> eggzeck, cool
[08:44] <d-o-b> how do I enable perl support in Apache2?
[08:44] <odat> hi everyone
[08:44] <apathy> hastesaver, i have an audio file of these prank guys calling an aol user and making her think theres beastial pr0n on her comp, they then cinvince her that is a search for it and she presses enter heh
[08:44] <Xyloc> mu: It seems a bit silly to use the user pwd to get higher priviliges
[08:45] <odat> anyone know why when i open the login window in my system tools it appears for a second then disappears
[08:45] <Xyloc> mu: I have to get used to the logic I guess
[08:45] <mustard5> Xyloc, well only you have the superuser account :)
[08:45] <mustard5> Xyloc, its a method of allowing you to temporarily execute root commands without the need to switch users
[08:45] <graft> okay, vladuz976 : add another pipe and try: sed 's/\x80//g'
[08:46] <apathy> ack getting all regular even
[08:46] <eggzeck> apathy: http://pastebin.com/724105 there you go, now once you add that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - reboot, and then come back here so I can show you how to test everything :)
[08:46] <hasan> what does samba do?
[08:46] <graft> makes you dance
[08:46] <Xyloc> mu: Yes, but I still think it's strange that I use my normal password to do that instead of the root passwd.
[08:46] <graft> !samba
[08:46] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[08:46] <Xyloc> mu: Doesn't that have severe sucrity implications?
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, I'll show you a link on the subject. :)
[08:47] <odat> when i double click on thunderbird nothing happens and sometimes i get a window then it disappears
[08:47] <mustard5> !root
[08:47] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:47] <odat> whats wrong
[08:47] <vladuz976> graft: that did it. how did you find out?
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, read the page that ubotu is showing above :D
[08:47] <mustard5> Xyloc, normally root is disabled in ubuntu..but you have enabled it
[08:48] <graft> vladuz976: i'm smart
[08:48] <mustard5> Xyloc, I suspect you used the expert install method?
[08:48] <Xyloc> mu: Yes, I did, in the hope of getting a more standard Linux installation
[08:48] <graft> vladuz976: err, i mean, <80> usually means a hex sequence which doesn't have a standard escape defined
[08:48] <vladuz976> graft: must be, but if you tell me your secret then i'll become smart, too
[08:48] <apathy> eggzeck, rebooting
[08:48] <eggzeck> apathy: good luck
[08:48] <vladuz976> graft: oh ok
[08:48] <shadukan> why guys i have a question i know the answer but havent found any good tutorial
[08:49] <graft> vladuz976: so, you can use sed to replace the hex code, with \x80
[08:49] <odat> anyone?
[08:49] <mustard5> Xyloc, well you got a root password so I guess it worked :)   Normally there is no root password at all with the default install
[08:49] <shadukan> i want to connect my desktop with my laptop using an ethernet connection and then use the wireless interface to route packages of desktop to the network
[08:49] <mustard5> Xyloc, anyway...the hungry hordes are bothering me...I have to go cook dinner
[08:49] <Xyloc> thx for the links everyone
[08:49] <vladuz976> graft: thanks a lot, that really helped a great deal
[08:50] <_yo_sidny4> how do I get my wireless working, I installed ndiswrapper, installed the driver, added the driver info to modprobe
[08:50] <Xyloc> mu: Bon appettit mustard5
[08:50] <shadukan> i know the answer is port forwarding.. but havent found good tutorials about it
[08:50] <mustard5> Xyloc, good luck and have fun :)
[08:51] <Xyloc> mu: thx again, if I can help you out on PDF editing, just let me know...
[08:51] <graft> vladuz976: de nada
[08:51] <shadukan> does anyone has any idea
[08:51] <shadukan> ?
[08:51] <shadukan> have any idea*
[08:52] <Xyloc> ubotu: thx for the help
[08:52] <_yo_sidny4> how do I get my wireless working, I installed ndiswrapper, installed the driver, and added the driver info to modprobe
[08:52] <Ademan> where are the "cheat codes" for kernel 2.6?
[08:53] <apathy> ok im back
[08:53] <apathy> but this screen is REALLY BRIGHT
[08:53] <eggzeck> apathy: everything went smooth?
[08:53] <hyphenated> should we care? ;-)
[08:53] <apathy> the tv displays now abso spankin lutely
[08:53] <eggzeck> apathy: now we test some things
[08:53] <apathy> eggzeck, but my monitor is so bright i can barely read this on it heh
[08:53] <hyphenated> you made your TV display nicely but your monitor display really bright?
[08:54] <eggzeck> apathy: dude, you don't know how to make the brightness go down? heh
[08:54] <apathy> eggzeck, what do we need to test?
[08:55] <apathy> eggzeck, I imagin i can figure it out
[08:55] <eggzeck> apathy: run this in term: fglrxinfo
[08:55] <eggzeck> apathy: and make sure it does NOT say mesa
[08:55] <Ademan> so yeah... where can i see a list of ubuntu boot options?
[08:56] <Ademan> eggzeck: iirc with a few of my attempts at installing fglrxinfo told me my correct vendor and whatnot, but then i couldnt use anything because DRI wasnt working
[08:56] <apathy> it displays my video card info
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: good
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: now this: glxgears
[08:56] <eggzeck> apathy: does it run smooth
[08:56] <eggzeck> ?
[08:56] <apathy> eggzeck, is good
[08:57] <apathy> eggzeck, smooth and such
[08:57] <eggzeck> apathy: okay, now this: fgl_glxgears
[08:58] <apathy> like around 330 fps on that
[08:58] <eggzeck> that's good
[08:58] <eggzeck> so everything is fine
[08:58] <apathy> awesome
[08:58] <eggzeck> and you have 3D accel now
[08:59] <apathy> so it would seem heh
[08:59] <eggzeck> no, you DO
[08:59] <eggzeck> heh
[08:59] <apathy> i never would have figured that out on my own lol
[08:59] <apathy> too much of a jump from microsoft heh
[09:00] <apathy> ok, now im going to eat my foot a bit
[09:00] <B1zz> mmmmm foot
[09:00] <hasan> Ubuntu has been the easiest linux that i have run into so far
[09:01] <apathy> how do i turn down brightness on my monitor but not my tv? besides the monitors hardware menu heh
[09:01] <hasan> graphic interface is amazing
[09:01] <eggzeck> lol B1zz
[09:01] <B1zz> :-p
[09:01] <Ademan> i hate to keep spamming you guys, but where can i find a list of linux boot options?
[09:01] <B1zz> google?
[09:01] <hasan> u mean terminal commands ademan?
[09:01] <apathy> if you know what you need then its on google heh
[09:01] <Ademan> hasan: no i mean boot options...
[09:02] <Ademan> like from the grub or lilo menu
[09:02] <Ademan> apathy: i'm having little luck :-/
[09:02] <hasan> umm isn't that in the install disc? when you originall install it?
[09:03] <hasan> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/warty/base/lilo
[09:03] <hasan> thats for lili
[09:03] <hasan> lilo
[09:04] <hastesaver> Ademan, /etc/boot/menu.lst ?
[09:05] <lawton> hello
[09:05] <nickrud> apathy, you want to change the monitor gamma; try xgamma -gamma 0.8 on a command line; adjust the number to suit. When happy, add Option "Gamma" <number> to your xogr in the monitor section
[09:05] <Ademan> hasan: i was kinda hoping that was a downsized list...
[09:06] <nickrud> errpast-wc1, xorg
[09:06] <nickrud> err apathy xorg.conf even
[09:06] <traveller> does anyone have problems with uim causing gnome-terminal to crash? how do i find out what's wrong?
[09:06] <hasan> so once samba is active i can connect to my ip using FTP?
[09:06] <apathy> nickrud, awesome ty
[09:06] <Ademan> hasan: no
[09:07] <mlambie> I'm running php5 with apache2 on breezy. It seems to be missing some functionality - tidy_parse_file() for example.
[09:07] <Ademan> you need an ftp server for that
[09:07] <Ademan> you can connect with windows share if you have samba
[09:07] <hasan> how do i create an FTP/HTTP server?
[09:07] <mlambie> Does anyone know how I can enable these functions (there's no php5-tidy module) or will I need to compile from source?
[09:07] <Ademan> hasan: vstfpd
[09:08] <lawton> anyone have advice about the best partitioing method for ubuntu?
[09:08] <hasan> ademan: thanks
[09:08] <mlambie> hasan: I don't think Samba supports FTP connections.
[09:08] <Ademan> http server would be apache2's httpd
[09:08] <Ademan> both can be found with synaptic
[09:08] <Ademan> mlambie: haha trust me it doesnt
[09:09] <hasan> which synaptic packages do i install?
[09:09] <Ademan> i've been tryign to get my ftp server working for about a couple of days now, i even tried using samba
[09:10] <hasan> apache2-mpm-prefork?
[09:10] <Ademan> hasan: apache2-httpd
[09:10] <Ademan> iirc
[09:10] <Ademan> lemme check
[09:10] <B1zz> i love synaptic
[09:10] <hasan> hmmm which specifically? or all the apache?
[09:12] <Ademan> looks like just apache2
[09:12] <Ademan> is all you need
[09:12] <hasan> i think i have more than 1 Apache2 option...i think Apache-common is what i will go with
[09:13] <Ademan> no
[09:13] <apathy> eggzeck, ok, one last question, in the monitor section, there used to be some numbers, for Horiz?? and VertRefresh and they had values, but its all from memory, do you have any idea iof that needs to be there and if that is what is causing the issue?
[09:13] <Ademan> just the apache2 package
[09:13] <_yo_sidny4> I just did ndiswrapper -m, how do I get my wireless to work?
[09:13] <Ademan> apache-common is a support library, it will automatically be installed if its needed
[09:14] <eggzeck> apathy: run this: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[09:14] <delmar> anyone recommend a good audio file editor please?
[09:15] <hasan> ademan: so i isntalled the apache package- how do i access apache2 server?
[09:15] <hasan> ademan: lets say i want to put up a basic html file
[09:15] <apathy> eggzeck, theres my numbers
[09:16] <Ademan> /var/www
[09:16] <Ademan> note that /var/www is owned by root
[09:16] <Ademan> so you need to sudo to modify it
[09:16] <eggzeck> apathy: then add that to your xorg.conf: first two is your HorizSync
[09:16] <eggzeck> apathy: the second pair is your VertRefresh
[09:16] <apathy> eggzeck, awesome tyvm
[09:16] <hasan> to read only?
[09:16] <hasan> what do i modify to?
[09:17] <Ademan> i'd reccomend  "sudo chown <your user> /var/www"
[09:17] <Ademan> of course no < > when you actually type it
[09:17] <Ademan> (note thats in terminal)
[09:17] <hasan> ofcourse
[09:17] <hasan> :)
[09:17] <hasan> now what?
[09:17] <eggzeck> apathy: so: in xorg.conf in the section "Monitor", you would add: HorizSync $value and next line VertRefresh $value (where $value is replaced with what the command gave you(
[09:18] <Ademan> now you should be able to modify it all you want
[09:18] <hasan> so how would i post say a webpage on it?
[09:18] <Ademan> now, again, you DID install the apache2 package and only that right?
[09:18] <apathy> eggzeck, ok, thanks man, if everything goes right ill brb after reboot
[09:18] <hasan> yeah
[09:18] <eggzeck> apathy: you could just hit ctrl+alt+backspace too
[09:18] <apathy> eggzeck, after updating everything
[09:19] <eggzeck> apathy: yes after updating
[09:19] <eggzeck> errr
[09:19] <Plus5Camel> what happens if my ubuntu boots into terminal logon on first boot?
[09:19] <eggzeck> uh oh, I hope he finished editing first
[09:19] <hasan> dumb question: i see the apache default folder....if i type in my IP i will see the apache website?
[09:19] <Ademan> hasan: use your file browser to navigate to /var/www   right click->create new document->Empty File
[09:19] <Ademan> rename it to index.html
[09:19] <Ademan> modify it with a text editor
[09:19] <Ademan> (ie gedit)
[09:20] <hasan> done
[09:20] <Ademan> well
[09:20] <glick> hey so is java gonna ship with ubuntu now that it is going to be opensourcie
[09:20] <glick> ?
[09:20] <Ademan> modify index.html to your hearts content, give it some meaning
[09:21] <hasan> now how can i see this file?
[09:21] <Ademan> in your web browser you shoudl be able to type "localhost"
[09:21] <hasan> from an http file
[09:21] <Ademan> if your server is working correctly, it should open index.html
[09:21] <apathy> eggzeck, lol, that was the single fastest reboot I have ever seen
[09:21] <hasan> Forbidden
[09:21] <hasan> You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[09:21] <hasan> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[09:21] <hasan> weird
[09:21] <Ademan> well your server is working
[09:21] <Ademan> gimme a second to think about this
[09:22] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help with a ACR38 smart card (pcsc tools) and addressing that card via usbserialemulation (wine) ?
[09:22] <eggzeck> apathy: it really isn't a real reboot :p
[09:22] <eggzeck> apathy: but works fine :)
[09:22] <apathy> eggzeck, I knew youd say that lol, but at least a kernel reload right?
[09:22] <glick> hey is upbuntu dappster gonna come with a firewall configuration utility?
[09:22] <hasan> does it have to do with permissions?
[09:23] <Ademan> yep
[09:23] <eggzeck> apathy: everything that is essential to xorg is restarted.
[09:23] <apathy> eggzeck, ok cool
[09:23] <apathy> eggzeck, didnt help on colors tho lol, kinda weird
[09:23] <Ademan> hasan: right click on index.html choose properties and check the permissions tab
[09:23] <eggzeck> apathy: that's not the full explantion, but I'm quite tired :p
[09:23] <Ademan> paste the "text string" you shoudl see at the bottom
[09:23] <ghozzt> the ACR38 smart card is working but I don't know ho to interface with this card via WINE
[09:24] <apathy> eggzeck, np man, I appreciate all the help you have given me exponentially
[09:24] <eggzeck> apathy: :)
[09:24] <glick> i want a dual 64bit machine with a nice flat screen lcd display
[09:24] <apathy> im going to do a little bit of research on how to install VLC on my compy
[09:24] <glick> is that so much to ask for?
[09:25] <hasan> haha
[09:25] <hasan> it works
[09:25] <hasan> ...
[09:25] <Ademan> it might say "text representation"
[09:25] <apathy> eggzeck, have a good night eggzeck
[09:25] <Ademan> what'd you change?\
[09:25] <hasan> permissions on my index.html
[09:25] <hasan> i think it was only for my specific username at first
[09:25] <lawton> hi, can someone tell me if i need to define a swap partition in Breezy Badger?
[09:25] <hasan> it was for owner owny
[09:25] <hasan> only*
[09:25] <lawton> i'm using this guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/ not sure if it is out of date
[09:25] <hasan> i made it so everyone could read it
[09:25] <Ademan> k, well good job, good
[09:26] <Ademan> i recomend you set that to /var/www (you can set it the same way since you now own it)
[09:26] <lawton> hello?
[09:26] <glick> im dying to swietch back to to ubuntu
[09:26] <Ademan> because whenever you create a file in a directory it assumes the permissions of the directory
[09:26] <glick> but i may as well wait till june firstie
[09:26] <glick> when dapper drakker is released
[09:26] <bimberi> lawton: it's usually a good idea, how much RAM do you have?
[09:26] <lawton> bimberi: 512 MB
[09:27] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help with usbserial emulation?
[09:27] <Ademan> so hasan: the next step is making it so the entire world can access your http server... so here are a few questions, 1) are you behind a router? if so how many?
[09:27] <hasan> i have a cable modem
[09:27] <Ademan> no routers?
[09:27] <lawton> bimberi: i can't seem to figure out how to define a partition as swap according to the above guide, the options are different...
[09:27] <hasan> i don't think i am behind a router
[09:28] <lawton> can i just skip the swap partition for now?
[09:28] <hasan> i don't know if i am
[09:28] <Ademan> try in your browser (address bar) <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:28] <eggzeck> apathy: thank you, same to you :)
[09:28] <glick> skip swap partition
[09:28] <glick> ?
[09:28] <glick> you need swapster
[09:28] <hasan> it says connecting on the bottom but nothing is loading
[09:28] <Ademan> so does anyone know where i could find a list of ubuntu boot options are?
[09:29] <Ademan> hasan: ok you're probably not behind a router then
[09:29] <bimberi> lawton: the installer will create a swap partition by default
[09:29] <Ademan> for the hell of it try <IP_ADDRESS> as well
[09:29] <apathy> ok so, can I use debian VLC in ubuntu?
[09:29] <lawton> bimberi: oh, so i just leave it some free space?
[09:29] <hasan> hmm
[09:29] <hasan> dude i think my www folder messed up
[09:30] <hasan> i can't access my html file anymore
[09:30] <lawton> is this guide accurate? http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[09:30] <lawton> maybe i should find another guide
[09:30] <Ademan> hrm, did you change anything?
[09:30] <hasan> yeah....fixed it
[09:30] <bimberi> lawton: iirc it will offer to use the free space and create 2 partitions in it - one swap and one for /
[09:30] <Plus5Camel> would anyone be willing to PM me for help?
[09:30] <hasan> i typed in <IP_ADDRESS> and nothing is comming up
[09:30] <lawton> bimberi: oh yeah, it just did that :)
[09:31] <Ademan> Plus5Camel: just ask your question in here and we'll all try and answer
[09:31] <hasan> does this mean i am not behind a router?
[09:31] <lawton> hrm...
[09:31] <bimberi> lawton: phew :)
[09:31] <Ademan> hasan: probably not, so in that case go to a site that can find your IP, and try entering that IP in your browser's address bar
[09:32] <ghozzt> anyone here that can help me with usbserial (kernel)
[09:32] <ghozzt> for a ACR38 smart card reader?
[09:32] <lawton> bimberi: indeed, i wonder why http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/ makes it so complicated
[09:33] <hasan> nothing is comming up when i am typing in my ip into the bar
[09:33] <markc> is there a known problem with upgrading openssh-client (dapper) ?
[09:33] <hasan> it says "Connection was refused when attempting to contact <my ip address>"
[09:33] <emptyshell> can anyone tell me if there is a boot cd that will allow a user to securely (DoD) wipe a harddrive/
[09:33] <Ademan> you're POSITIVE its your correct IP ?
[09:33] <B1zz> ahhh coulnt get any better than this a fresh install of Xubuntu and FFVII AC movie playing :-p
[09:33] <markc> I'm getting a -> unable to make backup link of `./usr/bin/ssh' before installing new version: Operation not permitted
[09:33] <bimberi> lawton: hm, it seems to be referring to a 2 drive setup
[09:34] <Ademan> sounds like you ARE behind a youter to me
[09:34] <hasan> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:34] <Ademan> i dont generally reccomend pasting your IP in IRC channels lol
[09:34] <hasan> lol
[09:34] <hasan> hackers?
[09:34] <Ademan> you never know
[09:34] <zcat[1] > DoS usually..
[09:35] <hasan> true
[09:35] <lawton> bimberi: i think IDE1 master in that config is all windows... looks like 1 drive for linux, 1 for windows
[09:35] <hurax> Ademan: in freenode you see everyone's ip
[09:35] <hasan> okay so i typed in my ip
[09:35] <hasan> and it is not working
[09:35] <Ademan> zcat[1] : is there any equivalent to ipconfig in bash?
[09:35] <Ademan> hasan: router no doubt then
[09:35] <zcat[1] > ifconfig
[09:35] <Ademan> zcat[1] : thanks
[09:36] <joelbryan> hello, anyone know a workaround on installing dapper on hoary?
[09:36] <Ademan> zcat[1] : also do you know where i might find a list of boot options for ubuntu?
[09:36] <joelbryan> I got a dpkg error when installing lvm2
[09:36] <zcat[1] > joelbryan: backup your data and do a fresh install?
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Ademan: /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:36] <zcat[1] > that?
[09:37] <hasan> ademan: do you know how i can get past my router?
[09:37] <Ademan> hasan: yes, but we hafta figure out your router's IP first
[09:38] <Ademan> zcat[1] : can ifconfig show your gateway IP?
[09:38] <zcat[1] > hasan: if your router is doing NAT then you usually need to log onto it and configure port forwarding or 'pinholing' so people can reach connect from outside
[09:38] <hasan> my local host messed up again
[09:38] <zcat[1] > Ademan: Umm.. I think it does.. if not, route will..
[09:38] <hasan> i didn't change anything
[09:39] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hrm ok, i'll look into route
[09:39] <zcat[1] > yeah, ifconfig doesn't thow the gateway. I thought it did :(
[09:39] <zcat[1] > *sow
[09:39] <zcat[1] > *show
[09:39] <zcat[1] > gah!! stupid keyboard!
[09:39] <general> test
[09:39] <hasan> fixed
[09:40] <hasan> how do i get my routers ip?
[09:40] <general> dhclient eth0
[09:40] <zcat[1] > hasan: route -n
[09:40] <Ademan> hasan: in terminal type this "sudo chown <your user> -R /var/www" "sudo chmod <your user> -R u=rwx g=rx o=rx"
[09:41] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i'm using lilo lol
[09:41] <vitry> hi people; I have a problem http://pastebin.com/724140
[09:41] <zcat[1] > Ademan: ahhh.. /etc/lilo.conf then .. and you have to rerun lilo if you change anything :)
[09:41] <Ademan> once you've done that i can show you how to get your router's IP
[09:41] <general> is there a way to put dell truemobile in monitor mode or is the only way to use ndiswrapper / write your own driver?
[09:42] <Ademan> (hasan)
[09:42] <Ademan> zcat[1] : thanks, i'm so fed up with my laptop lol
[09:42] <hasan> it said "invalde mode string: <myusername>
[09:43] <hasan> for the second command
[09:43] <zcat[1] > I have a 500mhz dell with 128m ram and a faulty keyboard.. I'm waiting for someone to steal it so I can buy a new one on insurance!
[09:43] <Ademan> hasan then do these 3 instead
[09:43] <Ademan> actually sorry, this one
[09:44] <Ademan> "sudo chmod u=rwx g=rx o=rx -R /var/www"
[09:44] <osfameron> how do I get my external HD to stop spinning?
[09:44] <osfameron> I'd have thought that unmounting it might have helped
[09:44] <zcat[1] > Ademan: isn't there a web group the user can be added to ?
[09:44] <dstryd> unplug it
[09:44] <osfameron> but on ubuntu 5.04 with a Lacie external HD, it doesn't stop spinning
[09:44] <osfameron> dstryd: yeah, it's not as if the data on it's important
[09:44] <hasan> cool
[09:44] <hasan> done
[09:44] <osfameron> any useful answers?
[09:44] <Ademan> zcat[1] : if there is i created my http group for nothing :-)
[09:45] <hasan> how do i get my routers ip?
[09:45] <osfameron> or suggestions on what to man :-)
[09:45] <Ademan> hasan
[09:45] <Ademan> in terminal "route"
[09:45] <hasan> okay 2 ips came up....
[09:45] <snail> osfameron: how are you connecting to it?
[09:45] <apathy> man, ubuntu is much better than I had anticipated
[09:45] <hasan> actually, 2 destination things came up
[09:45] <Ademan> paste the second line
[09:45] <hasan> one has an ip the other one says default
[09:45] <osfameron> snail: usb cable
[09:45] <Ademan> default
[09:46] <Ademan> paste that line here
[09:46] <snail> osfameron: is the hard drive usb powered?
[09:46] <hasan> default         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth1
[09:46] <zcat[1] > Ademan: true. you should talk hasan through creating a http group and adding the user to it.. that's the 'riht' way of granting write access..
[09:46] <Ademan> k in your browser go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:46] <snail> or does it have a mains power connection as well?
[09:46] <apathy> I use dhcp, as I have a router
[09:46] <Ademan> zcat[1] : hehe, well its very very possible the web group was created for a reason and i'm just a retard
[09:47] <Ademan> lemme see if it exists
[09:47] <Ademan> if it does, i'm a retard
[09:47] <Ademan> lol
[09:47] <osfameron> snail: no, only mains powered, unfortunately
[09:47] <zcat[1] > nah, I checked and all my web stuff is root.root ..
[09:47] <richiefrich> apathy, i manually configure mine, i have 5 boxes :)
[09:47] <hasan> umm so now what do i do?
[09:47] <Ademan> w00t dapper installer finished burning
[09:47] <Ademan> hasan: did a web page come up?
[09:48] <zcat[1] > bad design, ubuntu should make a web group and set up proper permissions. Slack!
[09:48] <snail> osfameron: in theory, if you disconnect the usb cable, in theory it should power down automagically i believe. also it may power down automagically after a set period of time
[09:48] <hasan> umm on my local host
[09:48] <osfameron> snail: that's what I thought
[09:48] <Ademan> no, for <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:48] <osfameron> it doesn't seem to happen
[09:48] <richiefrich> hasan, http://loacalhost
[09:48] <snail> zcat[1] : define "web stuff"
[09:48] <osfameron> snail: though I was thinking the "set period of time" would be like 15 seconds - 2 minutes
[09:48] <hasan> it asked me for a user name and password
[09:48] <zcat[1] > ownsership and write access to /var/www/
[09:48] <Ademan> for the second one type "admin"
[09:48] <Ademan> no username
[09:48] <snail> osfameron: i have no idea, sorry
[09:48] <osfameron> and disconnecting the usb doesn't park it
[09:49] <osfameron> ah, well, thanks anyway
[09:49] <richiefrich> hasan, thats your router, i believe
[09:49] <glick> hey does ubuntu calender still work
[09:49] <glick> ?
[09:49] <Ademan> richiefrich: thats what he's looking for...
[09:49] <_carl> Hey guys I need a little hand...
[09:49] <Ademan> hasan: uname="" password="admin"
[09:49] <richiefrich> Ademan, ahh, well u foujnd it, or whom ever helped him
[09:49] <Ademan> a web page SHOULD come up
[09:49] <_carl> How do I install a .deb package that I have locally on my HD but is not in a respitory
[09:49] <hasan> not working
[09:49] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. I got on the computer to set up zoneminder..  stop distracting me :)
[09:50] <Ademan> hrm, failed pasword?
[09:50] <Ademan> try no username no password
[09:50] <hasan> nope
[09:50] <Ademan> you knoww i didnt mean for you to type the quotes right? lol
[09:50] <myleftfoot> _carl: sudo dpkg -i paackagename.deb
[09:50] <general> _carl dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:50] <hasan> yeah
[09:50] <richiefrich> hasan, what router u have ?
[09:50] <Ademan> k lol
[09:50] <_carl> Thanks guys
[09:50] <hasan> u mean the ip?
[09:50] <Ademan> richiefrich: he was unaware of any router till now
[09:50] <zcat[1] > username admin pass admin or 1234
[09:50] <hasan> lol....yeah
[09:50] <Ademan> hasan: are you at school? home? what?
[09:51] <richiefrich> Ademan, ok but they all default differently
[09:51] <general> does anybody has some experience with mobile ip?
[09:51] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with smart card readers
[09:51] <ghozzt> ?
[09:51] <hasan> home
[09:51] <Ademan> richiefrich: hehe yeah, but if he didnt know he had a router i doubt he knows what make it is :-)
[09:51] <Ademan> hasan: with your parents?
[09:51] <hasan> lol yeah
[09:51] <richiefrich> Ademan, what u told him was for linksys
[09:51] <Ademan> hasan: ask them for the router password
[09:51] <Ademan> richiefrich: yep, i dont know any others
[09:51] <hasan> wait...i am behind a router
[09:52] <zcat[1] > admin/admin or admin/1234 works for a whole bunch of routers..
[09:52] <richiefrich> Ademan, i know dlink  to
[09:52] <hasan> netgear
[09:52] <richiefrich> hasan, i dont know that one :(
[09:52] <Ademan> OK, gimme a second to look up the default username and password for you
[09:52] <Ademan> assuming your parents didnt change it (unless they're tech savvy i'll bet they didnt)
[09:53] <richiefrich> hasan, let me google, what  netgear ? the model number
[09:53] <zcat[1] > hell, even I never changed my router login !!
[09:53] <general> netgear hase i think admin admin
[09:53] <general> -e lol
[09:53] <Ademan> i did for my wireless router, but that's it
[09:53] <debian> bom dia
[09:53] <hasan> wireless router
[09:54] <richiefrich> hasan, ok what ver?
[09:54] <hasan> mr814
[09:54] <richiefrich> or try what general said
[09:54] <Ademan> zcat[1] : just for the record i have a "www-data" group on my computer taht i didnt make :-)
[09:55] <richiefrich> Ademan,  they should all be default, by standard, but there not and that sucks
[09:55] <hasan> okay
[09:55] <hasan> i am in my router
[09:55] <Ademan> richiefrich: yep :-/
[09:55] <hasan> i got the password
[09:55] <Ademan> hasan: yay
[09:55] <hasan> i have a crap load of options
[09:55] <zcat[1] > configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:56] <zcat[1] > Hmmm..
[09:56] <Ademan> so hasan: what you need is "port forwarding" or "virtual servers" and it MIGHT be in an "advanced options"
[09:56] <debian> hasan vou-te emviar uma coisa
[09:56] <richiefrich> hasan, cool
[09:56] <debian> ok
[09:56] <hasan> port forwarding found
[09:56] <Ademan> alright cool
[09:56] <hasan> it says Add, Edit and delete
[09:56] <richiefrich> add
[09:56] <Ademan> port 80 tcp
[09:57] <hasan> Service name?
[09:57] <Ademan> httpd
[09:57] <richiefrich> Ademan, port 80?
[09:57] <zcat[1] > http
[09:57] <debian> www.synat.org
[09:57] <richiefrich> Ademan, that should be open
[09:57] <richiefrich> :)
[09:57] <Ademan> richiefrich: mine def wasnt by default
[09:57] <hasan> server ip address?
[09:57] <Ademan> ok
[09:57] <hasan> my ip address?
[09:57] <Ademan> kinda
[09:57] <Ademan> your INTERNAL IP
[09:57] <chamo> hello
[09:57] <Ademan> you can find that in a "client table"
[09:57] <hasan> whats that?
[09:57] <Ademan> probably "dhcp client table" or something like that
[09:57] <zcat[1] > hasan: what ifconfig eth0 tells you..
[09:58] <richiefrich> Ademan, mine is what linksys u have ?  i have    WRT54G
[09:58] <Ademan> or what zcat[1]  said... in terminal "ifconfig" it shoudl give you your IP
[09:58] <Ademan> your internal IP that is
[09:58] <hasan> is it supposed to be on my router?
[09:58] <Ademan> it should be, but lets do it the terminal way
[09:59] <hasan> alright
[09:59] <Ademan> "inet addr: <what you want>" it should probably be 192.168.0.something
[09:59] <hasan> a 0 or a 1
[09:59] <zcat[1] > Ademan: mine was 10.0.0.something .. dlink default to that
[09:59] <debian> ademan queres uma conversa
[10:00] <debian> tou a entrar
[10:00] <dentist2> hey guys.. interesting question... i want to create a file socket... say "/tmp/temp.socket" to a UDP port on a remote host... anyone know how?
[10:00] <debian> ok
[10:00] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , dlink is weird :)
[10:00] <Mahmoud85> hasan "something" has to be greater than 0 (1-254)
[10:00] <Ademan> yay i think i broke the dapper installer
[10:00] <hasan> how do i find this through the terminal?
[10:01] <hasan> just type in route?
[10:01] <Ademan> hasan just type "ifconfig"
[10:01] <zcat[1] > the most frustrating thing is the web admin only works with MSIE .. even firefox in windows with java and activex and the browser identification changed cannot properly reconfigure my dlink :(
[10:01] <Ademan> zcat[1] : ouch
[10:01] <zcat[1] > yeah.. fortunately I can reconfigure everything in telnet too..
[10:01] <richiefrich> hasan, ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:01] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:02] <zcat[1] > but since a friend lent me a cisco SOHO I haven't used the dlink for the last 6 months
[10:02] <Ademan> do what richiefrich said, should filter out the junk
[10:02] <zcat[1] > cicso are sweet as!
[10:02] <Ademan> zcat[1] : wow... how do you do that?
[10:02] <richiefrich> Ademan, :)
[10:02] <Ademan> i mean... i assumed there HAD to be another way to do it
[10:03] <Ademan> but... telnet?.... aha
[10:03] <Ademan> is there a standard protocol for config through telnet for routers?
[10:03] <Ademan> and can you teach me? lol
[10:03] <Ademan> it would make me feel 1337
[10:03] <zcat[1] > just telnet in.. it's all command line driven and a lot harder to figure out than the web admin.. but everything is there
[10:03] <richiefrich> Ademan, cicso has it's own interface
[10:03] <daryl_> Anyone have a suggestion for my sound question i posted a couple pages up?
[10:03] <Ademan> zcat[1] : i've actually never used telnet before
[10:03] <jerware> fellaz
[10:04] <jerware> if i find pcmcia drivers,  will anything that goes in the PCMCIA slot work?
[10:04] <zcat[1] > most routers will let you use telnet. Very few people know about it because the web interface is much easier!
[10:04] <ghozzt> jerware: no, you will need appropriate drivers for each device as well
[10:04] <Ademan> how do you even do telnet-ish stuff in linux?
[10:04] <jerware> ok
[10:05] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , and smtp servers too  for telnet :)
[10:05] <zcat[1] > open a terminal and type 'telnet <IP_ADDRESS>" or whatever
[10:05] <Ademan> wow
[10:05] <jerware> i prefer ssh over telnet
[10:05] <Ademan> what a crappy gateway IP lol
[10:05] <daryl_> Anyone have a suggestion for my sound question i posted a couple pages up?
[10:05] <jerware> telnet is plain text, insecure.  ssh is encrypted
[10:05] <zcat[1] > very few routers support ssh though :)
[10:05] <richiefrich> jerware, u can ssh into your router
[10:05] <jerware> i cant even get my telnet server to listening
[10:05] <richiefrich> jerware, u can't ssh into your router
[10:05] <jerware> depends on the router
[10:05] <jerware> cisco can
[10:06] <lawton> hrm, how do reconfigure X to use a different resolution in ubuntu?
[10:06] <jerware> some cisco ios have ssh client
[10:06] <jerware> not linksys
[10:06] <lawton> annoyingly, it's default resolution can't be displayed on a Dell 2007FP
[10:06] <richiefrich> lawton, in /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <jerware> but most cisco routers have telnet anyway
[10:06] <zcat[1] > not like it really matetrs when you're just reconfiguring your router though..
[10:06] <richiefrich> jerware, cisco is  great but expensive
[10:06] <lawton> which means i had to haul out a CRT display to be able to see anything on the first boot
[10:07] <jerware> cisco rocks.  i have a lab in my room.
[10:07] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:07] <lawton> richiefrich: hrm thanks... i need to edit the text file?
[10:07] <User37> hi all
[10:07] <jerware> ebay is nice for cisco
[10:07] <Ademan> did hasan die?
[10:07] <richiefrich> lawton, just the one line
[10:07] <jerware> doen anyone recomend  particular vendor for a pcmcia nic card, not wireless?
[10:07] <jerware> err does
[10:07] <lawton> richiefrich: there isn't a gui way to do this?
[10:08] <jerware> my integrated nic card was short circuited in the rain.
[10:08] <cheziyi> i can't get scim to working in openoffice... any help?
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton, u can use gedit if your in X
[10:08] <ubunooby99> erm guys i have a question.
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton,                  Modes    "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
[10:08] <richiefrich> lawton,  that line change it
[10:08] <ubunooby99> can i upgrade from beta version of drapper drake to full version?
[10:08] <ubunooby99> if i download and install drapper now, can i upgrade to final version later on?
[10:09] <spikeb> yeah
[10:09] <lawton> hmm
[10:09] <ubunooby99> spike, u mean yes?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > xircom work..
[10:09] <Ademan> hrm, i can't telnet to my router :-(
[10:09] <Ademan> specific port maybe?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > nmap it :)
[10:09] <Ademan> or is linksys mean?
[10:09] <jerware> has anyone installed ndiswrapper?
[10:09] <cheziyi> isn't ndiswrapper installed by default?
[10:09] <Ademan> zcat[1] : eh?
[10:09] <jerware> linksys doesent have telnet listening
[10:10] <jerware> oh ok
[10:10] <Ademan> damn, so all i have is the web admin (probably best that way)
[10:10] <zcat[1] > nmap's a port scanner.. quite handy for finding open ports or finding lost machines on the network..
[10:10] <jerware> Ademan:  if  you want to configure your linksys router.  contact the default gatway via web interface.  in your address bar type <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:10] <Ademan> yeah i don't have it
[10:10] <cheziyi> i can't get scim working in openoffice.. any help?
[10:11] <jerware> why do you wnt to telnet Ademan?
[10:11] <Ademan> jerware: haha i know, i just thought doing it through telnet might be kinda neat
[10:11] <jerware> no desktop gui?
[10:11] <Ademan> jerware: naw, just playing around
[10:11] <jerware> Ademan: well if you like command line, use a command line web browser.
[10:11] <daryl_> I'm trying to follow some instructions for configuring my sound, and its not written for ubuntu.  Could soemoen tell me where i access this?  SETTINGS->CONTROL PANEL->SOUND&MULTIMEDIA->SOUND SYSTEM. Select the Hardware tab and ensure ALSA is selected.
[10:11] <jerware> Ademan: such as elinks.
[10:11] <ubunooby99> guys, so i can upgrade from bet version to final version for drapperdrake?
[10:11] <ubunooby99> beta version
[10:11] <ubunooby99> to final version.
[10:12] <jerware> i think the latest linksys firmware does have telnet
[10:12] <jerware> try upgrading the flash or firmware
[10:12] <richiefrich> elinks rockX
[10:12] <jerware> or what ever
[10:12] <cheziyi> ubunooby99: i think you can, cos you can even upgrade from older versions
[10:12] <Ademan> jerware: hehe naw i was just foolin around, i had always wondered how people configured routers without web interfaces, and then zcat[1]  mentioned he did his through telnet, and my interest spiked :-)
[10:12] <ubunooby99> thx cheziyi!
[10:12] <jerware> ahh
[10:12] <lawton> richiefrich: i think the bit depth might have been the problem
[10:13] <lawton> or perhaps it was trying to use 1600x1200 @ 75 or 70 hz instead of 60hz
[10:13] <richiefrich> lawton, what is it ?
[10:13] <richiefrich> set to
[10:13] <hasan__> hey
[10:13] <richiefrich> lawton, are u on a lappy ?
[10:13] <lawton> richiefrich: not sure... i didn't see an option to change the refresh
[10:13] <richiefrich> hasan_, we thought we lost u
[10:13] <lawton> i'm tweaking the bit depth
[10:13] <hasan__> yeah
[10:14] <hasan__> i was having problems connecting
[10:14] <Ademan> lol
[10:14] <richiefrich> lawton, pastbin that file
[10:14] <lawton> richiefrich: both a laptop and a desktop
[10:14] <hasan__> umm i am back
[10:14] <lawton> richiefrich: oh ok
[10:14] <hasan__> so how do i find my internal ip and plug it into my router
[10:14] <Ademan> i can't for the life of me get any sort of linux working on my laptop
[10:14] <richiefrich> hasan, ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:14] <richiefrich> hasan, , ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:14] <richiefrich> ^^^
[10:14] <Ademan> what richiefrich said
[10:14] <hasan__> okay
[10:14] <Ademan> should spit out an IP like 192.168.0.something
[10:15] <richiefrich> Ademan, i missed the __
[10:15] <hasan__> i got my inet address
[10:15] <Ademan> paste it here
[10:15] <hasan__> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:15] <Ademan> beautiful
[10:15] <richiefrich> hasan_,  /exec -o  ifconfig -a | grep inet
[10:15] <richiefrich> do that in IRC ^^
[10:15] <Ademan> haha no he'll get dropped for spam
[10:15] <punkmexic> hi
[10:16] <Ademan> anyways
[10:16] <richiefrich> Ademan, that will paste 2 line
[10:16] <punkmexic> anyone uses xwine_[{}
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:ccff:fea2:ff5a/64 Scope:Link
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <hasan__>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[10:16] <hasan__> alright
[10:16] <Ademan> richie: :-p
[10:16] <zcat[1] > addr:<IP_ADDRESS> is what you want
[10:16] <richiefrich> :)(
[10:16] <richiefrich> :(
[10:16] <Ademan> so anways
[10:16] <Ademan> go back to your browser
[10:16] <varsendagger> punkmexic, yeah it is good
[10:16] <Ademan> and type in <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <punkmexic> ????
[10:16] <Ademan> enter your uname and password that you figure out
[10:17] <Linad> can you please help
[10:17] <hasan__> alright
[10:17] <Ademan> go to virtual servers or port forwarding
[10:17] <Ademan> add
[10:17] <hasan__> did it- i am in my netgear login
[10:17] <hasan__> okay...i am at add
[10:17] <Linad> got the following message dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:17] <Ademan> the port you want is 80
[10:17] <Ademan> the IP is the <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:17] <Ademan> protocol is TCP
[10:18] <Ademan> you might as well give it the service name "http"
[10:18] <Linad> can you help
[10:18] <lawton> re
[10:18] <Mahmoud85> Linad, did you try to run this command to correct the problem ?
[10:18] <lawton> richiefrich: http://pastebin.com/724182
[10:19] <Linad> what command
[10:19] <Mahmoud85> Linad, the one it gave you .. 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:20] <Ademan> lol
[10:20] <Ademan> nevermind following directions
[10:20] <hasan> back
[10:20] <hasan> wow
[10:20] <Ademan> hasan: did you add it correctly?
[10:20] <Linad> yes  iItried but did't work
[10:20] <hasan> yes i think so
[10:20] <Ademan> and hasan: every time you modify router settings you'll probably drop all your connections
[10:20] <hasan> lol...yeah i noticed
[10:20] <Ademan> :-)
[10:20] <richiefrich> lawton, what monitor u have
[10:20] <Ademan> anyways
[10:20] <hasan> :)
[10:20] <hasan> so now how do i access this webpage
[10:21] <richiefrich> lawton, and why u on depth 16 ? and not 24?
[10:21] <Ademan> now you SHOULD be able to enter your global IP (the one you might get from some site that "detects your IP") into your browser bar
[10:21] <blind> hm.
[10:21] <Mahmoud85> Linad, R U sure U added 'sudo' at the start ? ' sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[10:21] <Linad> yes I did
[10:21] <richiefrich> hasan,  http://localhost   <-- if u have apache then thats yours
[10:21] <Ademan> hasan: /msg Ademan (your global IP)
[10:21] <Ademan> richiefrich: it already works locally
[10:21] <Ademan> he wants to see if other people can connect
[10:21] <richiefrich> Ademan, ahh
[10:21] <lawton> re
[10:21] <hasan> connection refused
[10:22] <hasan> ...
[10:22] <Ademan> still...
[10:22] <lawton> richiefrich: dell 2007fp
[10:22] <hasan> when attempting to contact (my ip)
[10:22] <richiefrich> Ademan, whats the IP
[10:22] <Ademan> do you need anything other than port 80 for http?
[10:22] <lawton> richiefrich: i thought depth 16 might have fixed it... it didn't
[10:22] <Mahmoud85> Linad, what did you try to install to get this message?
[10:22] <Ademan> richiefrich: he didnt pm me it haha, hasan, what's your IP (its ok we're friends now haha)
[10:22] <hasan> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <Linad> Thanks Mahmoud 85 forgot the sudo Now it works
[10:23] <Ademan> hasan: worked for me
[10:23] <lawton> richiefrich: how can i get it to run at 1600x1200 @ 60?
[10:23] <Ademan> it swore at me :-)
[10:23] <Mahmoud85> Linad, :)
[10:23] <hasan> umm
[10:24] <lawton> i'm pretty sure it's just selecting the wrong refresh
[10:24] <hasan> what did it say?
[10:24] <hasan> the f word?
[10:24] <richiefrich> hasan, yhes
[10:24] <hasan> lol
[10:24] <hasan> nice
[10:24] <Ademan> yep
[10:24] <hasan> what do i type into my browser
[10:24] <Ademan> just "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:24] <hasan> http://my ip?
[10:24] <Ademan> you dont really need the http:// its assumed usually
[10:25] <hasan> i still don't get it
[10:25] <hasan> it says connection was refused
[10:25] <richiefrich> hasan,  OR -->  http://localhost
[10:25] <Ademan> that's really really wierd
[10:25] <richiefrich> same thing
[10:25] <zcat[1] > most routers get confused if you try to connect to your outside IP from inside..
[10:25] <Ademan> it works for us but not you
[10:25] <Ademan> zcat[1] : mine's never complained about it
[10:25] <Ademan> but anyways hasan
[10:25] <richiefrich> Ademan, ask him is he putting the ""
[10:25] <Ademan> the next step is to get a domain name
[10:25] <hasan> i am not putting in ""
[10:25] <zcat[1] > mine ends up giving me the router config.. (the dlink does.. never tried on the cisco)
[10:25] <Ademan> http://www.dyndns.com
[10:25] <richiefrich> ok
[10:26] <Ademan> so you can have something human readable instead of a bunch of numbers
[10:26] <hasan> haha, nice
[10:26] <hasan> i think i might get one next week
[10:26] <hasan> dude...thank you so much
[10:26] <Ademan> np haha
[10:27] <hasan> thank your richie
[10:27] <hasan> for your help too
[10:28] <Ademan> hasan: just stick in #ubuntu and help people when they ask
[10:28] <Ademan> :-)
[10:28] <hasan> :) will do but i am truly a novice
[10:28] <hasan> i learned a lot today
[10:28] <Ademan> you'll learn fast
[10:28] <Ademan> yeah
[10:28] <Ademan> i was onyl asking questiosn for the first 2 weeks
[10:28] <Ademan> lol
[10:29] <hasan> lol
[10:29] <Ademan> well dapper is almost done installing
[10:29] <richiefrich> lawton, change it to 24  and what do u want ?   screen size ?
[10:29] <Ademan> we'll see if it won't blow up on my laptop too
[10:30] <almenfors> morning ppl. here i am..and i need help again =)
[10:30] <zcat[1] > configure: error: zm requires LWP::UserAgent
[10:30] <Ademan> my laptop has been a 15 pound (yeah its heavy) paperweight for the past month and a half because no version of linux (save knoppix LIVE) will friggin run on it
[10:30] <zcat[1] > libcrypt-ssleay-perl is already the newest version.
[10:31] <zcat[1] > I'm stuck!
[10:31] <hasan> weird
[10:31] <zcat[1] > anyone know what other package would provide LWP::UserAgent ?
[10:31] <hasan> my windows computer is not reading the ip file as well
[10:31] <hasan> yet u guys can see it
[10:31] <almenfors> i could use some help with my netgear wg311v3. cant get it to work on my server. =(    total noob here
[10:31] <shakazuzu> hi, how can i setup my locale-settings ?
[10:32] <Ademan> hasan: well if its behind the same router thats why
[10:32] <Mahmoud85> hasan go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:32] <zcat[1] > hasan ifconfig eth0:1 eith your outside Ip address perhaps?
[10:33] <hasan> what do you mean zcat?
[10:33] <hasan> my Bcast?
[10:33] <Ademan> hasan
[10:33] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with smart card readers in ubuntu?
[10:33] <Ademan> if you want to preview your site just use localhost
[10:34] <Ademan> you know other people can view your site
[10:34] <Ademan> so you're good
[10:34] <Ademan> localhost will give you the same stuff they're seeing
[10:34] <tHeDvL> hi everybody
[10:34] <tHeDvL> im made auto-burn CD
[10:34] <tHeDvL> for ubuntu installation
[10:34] <tHeDvL> i booting from the CD
[10:34] <tHeDvL> and it show me ubuntu install
[10:34] <Mahmoud85> ademan : that's if the http server is on the same computer but is trying to access from another (windows computer)
[10:34] <hastesaver> !enter
[10:34] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:34] <tHeDvL> in the choose language menu
[10:34] <tHeDvL> it hung
[10:34] <Ademan> Mahmoud85: oh true
[10:35] <tHeDvL> the keyboard closed
[10:35] <richiefrich> tHeDvL, retry
[10:35] <tHeDvL> i can't choose the language
[10:35] <Ademan> then hasan: you shoudl be able to use your local IP
[10:35] <richiefrich> tHeDvL, retry
[10:35] <tHeDvL> so what is the problem?
[10:35] <Ademan> (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[10:35] <tHeDvL> retry what?
[10:35] <kane777> How can I repartition my hard drive?? I have too much set to swap and too few for /
[10:35] <richiefrich> reboot
[10:35] <tHeDvL> i reboot
[10:35] <richiefrich> try again , or itmmight be a bad burn
[10:35] <tHeDvL> but same problem
[10:35] <zcat[1] > tHeDvL: Go into bios and turn on legacy USB setting
[10:36] <tHeDvL> maybe bad burn?
[10:36] <tHeDvL> ok i will try
[10:36] <tHeDvL> thanks everybody
[10:36] <richiefrich> np
[10:36] <Mahmoud85> Num Lock LED is reversed, On : Led OFF  .. Anyone can help?
[10:37] <Ademan> hrm its 130
[10:37] <Ademan> i'm starting to get tired
[10:37] <hasan> i love linux....
[10:37] <Ademan> i love linux... except on my laptop
[10:37] <Ademan> lol
[10:38] <hasan> haha
[10:38] <hasan> haha
[10:38] <cheziyi> i love linux on my laptop
[10:38] <richiefrich> lamer007, :)
[10:38] <Ademan> cheziyi: any trouble setting it up?
[10:38] <cheziyi> not really
[10:38] <hasan> right now i am running linux on a crappy 633 mmhz celeron....and it is going pretty fast
[10:39] <cheziyi> except acer's stupid smart battery system
[10:40] <cheziyi> i am waiting for shipit for drapper drake....
[10:40] <Ademan> cheziriyi: mine's given me hell, its been a month and a half and my laptop has remained a paperweight
[10:40] <_yo_sidny4> how do I switch from GNOME to KDE in breezy badger?
[10:40] <cheziyi> haha
[10:41] <Ademan> _yo_sidny4: you dont, screw KDE :-)
[10:41] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, what do u use to start X ?
[10:41] <cheziyi> _yo_sidny4:y use kde? XD
[10:41] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, do u use startx
[10:41] <_yo_sidny4> no
[10:41] <richiefrich> then ?
[10:41] <Ademan> theres a "kubunu" distrobution...
[10:41] <_yo_sidny4> it goes to the graphical login right away
[10:41] <kane777> How can I repartition my hard drive?? I have too much set to swap and too few for / is there a way without reinstalling just to shrink down swap partition to let's say 512 MB???
[10:41] <crazy_penguin> 'morning all
[10:42] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, whats the login manager?
[10:42] <Ademan> kane777: gparted LiveCD
[10:42] <cheziyi> kane777: best way is to reformat... if you don't mind the trouble
[10:42] <Ademan> kane777: gparted is beautiful, i really reccomend it, i used it to fix the EXACT same problem
[10:42] <_yo_sidny4> I'm not sure what the login manager is
[10:42] <Ademan> its braindead easy to use, and graphical
[10:43] <kane777> Ademan, thank you... I'll try it...
[10:43] <hasan> ademan u rock
[10:43] <Ademan> hahah thanks hasan
[10:43] <Ademan> you havin fun with your server?
[10:43] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, most have options to choise what u want, did u install KDE ?
[10:44] <cheziyi> richifrich: the breexy cd "easy" installatin is automatic
[10:44] <punkmexic> ya volvi
[10:44] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, I went into synaptic package manager, searched for KDE and installed it
[10:44] <richiefrich> cheziyi, it never did
[10:45] <ghozzt> how to I create the /dev/ttyUSB0 device?
[10:45] <cheziyi> richiefrich: opps sry i mis-read your statement
[10:46] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, then it should be in your login manager
[10:46] <richiefrich> cheziyi, np, i was gonna say then why have a kubuntu one  :)
[10:47] <hastesaver> _yo_sidny4, have you installed KDE first? (the package kubuntu-desktop)
[10:48] <_yo_sidny4> not kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, install kdm and change it when it boots to load that
[10:48] <_yo_sidny4> I searched for KDE
[10:48] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, i dont think u need kubuntu-desktop
[10:48] <OlliK> apt-cache search kde
[10:48] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest installing kubuntu-desktop..
[10:49] <OlliK> you don't need kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <zcat[1] > ther are lots of other kde things that are not part of the core KDE package
[10:49] <hasan> yeah dude, i went to the bathroom for a min but yeah
[10:49] <hastesaver> _yo_sidny4, if you want KDE, the package to install is kubuntu-desktop
[10:49] <zcat[1] > like kdm..
[10:49] <hasan> right now <IP_ADDRESS>...it says this
[10:50] <richiefrich> i dont understand the kubuntu-desktop taht
[10:50] <hasan> bsaically i thank u and richie on it
[10:50] <hasan> basically*
[10:50] <richiefrich> thats an  kubuntu packacge, not needed for kde
[10:50] <hastesaver> richiefrich, how would kdm help? I can choose either Gnome or KDE, irrespective of whether I'm using gdm or kdm
[10:50] <richiefrich> hasan, np
[10:51] <_yo_sidny4> I'm not finding kdm or kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[10:51] <hastesaver> !info kubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[10:51] <cheziyi> hastesaver, the thing about kdm and gdm is that whether you can shut down from your login
[10:51] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, u need the repositorys
[10:51] <richiefrich> hastesaver, well if he doesnt have gdm configured kde wont show up
[10:52] <hastesaver> cheziyi, yeah, so what *dm you use has nothing do with whether you have KDE or not. That's what I'm saying too...
[10:52] <pc> holaaaaaaaa
[10:52] <pc> hay alguien que hable en espaol
[10:52] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[10:52] <OlliK> hola, english only here PC
[10:52] <cheziyi> hastesaver: ah i get your point
[10:52] <hastesaver> richiefrich, gdm didn't need any configuration, kde showed up by itself after it (and I mean kubuntu-desktop) was installed
[10:52] <zcat[1] > !es
[10:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:52] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, all I have is CD Ubuntu 5.10
[10:53] <richiefrich> hastesaver, maybe thats what kubuntu-desktop does but he can had confure it
[10:53] <cheziyi> _yo_sidny4, you can get from apt-get
[10:53] <cheziyi> (i think)
[10:54] <richiefrich> _yo_sidny4, u need the repositorys
[10:54] <richiefrich> from kubuntu
[10:54] <zcat[1] > !source-o-matic
[10:54] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:54] <richiefrich> zcat[1] , :)
[10:55] <zcat[1] > although all ou really need to do is (in synaptic) remove the CD and add the four main repos and then reload.
[10:55] <phenom> Hello, can someone help me get ProQuake working under Ubuntu please?
[10:55] <hastesaver> richiefrich, whatever. All I know is that the packages to install if you want Gnome,KDE, or XFCE and you don't have them, are ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop respectively
[10:55] <zcat[1] > hastesaver: yes, but not if the only thing in your sources.list is still the install CD..
[10:55] <_yo_sidny4> I added 2 repositories that were already there under the add list, updates and security updates
[10:55] <richiefrich> hastesaver, or hand configure, if u dont want them
[10:55] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: add all four
[10:56] <twb> Can I download a dapper beta install CD from somewhere?
[10:56] <cheziyi> phenom, wat problems are you experiencing?
[10:56] <hastesaver> richiefrich, sure. If you want to go the hand-configure way, you can also get the .tar.gz files and compile them yourself :p
[10:56] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: and remove the CD.. it tends to break things like easyubuntu if you decide to use it later
[10:56] <_yo_sidny4> there were only 3 in the list, one was the CD, another updates, and the last one security updates
[10:57] <lawton> argh
[10:57] <zcat[1] > there should be four checkboxes.. tick universe and multiverse
[10:57] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[10:57] <zcat[1] > ahh sorry.. click "add"
[10:57] <richiefrich> hastesaver, my point is you dont need them, I hand configure, I'm not trying to argue :)
[10:57] <phenom> cheziyi, I cd to my Quake dir and use ./sqpro to start quake and it responds with "phenom@UltraBeast:~/Desktop/My Documents/quake$ ./sqpro
[10:57] <phenom> ./sqpro: error while loading shared libraries: libvga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:57] <phenom> "
[10:57] <zcat[1] > then you'll see the four checkboxes..
[10:58] <lawton> now X11 is running a 1600x1200 desktop at 1280x1024
[10:58] <lawton> how can i get X11 to configure properly?
[10:59] <cheziyi>  phenom: maybe your libvga.so.1 is missing?
[10:59] <zcat[1] > lawton: ctrl-alt-F1, log in, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <phenom> cheziyi, Where could I get libvga.so.1 and will it mess up my current video settings?
[10:59] <hastesaver> richiefrich, I agree you don't need them, but the 'recommended' way (as also the easy way) is to get those huge -desktop packages :)
[10:59] <ckopn> how to change screen-login resolution on 1024-768 ?
[10:59] <_yo_sidny4> ok, it's downloading package info
[11:00] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah thanks!
[11:00] <cheziyi> phenom: this you gotta ask the more experienced users
[11:00] <phenom> hmm, ok
[11:00] <cheziyi> i'm still partly noob
[11:00] <phenom> #Quake is invite only or I would have asked there
[11:00] <richiefrich> hastesaver, im just not big on installing extra crapp i dont need, thats why i donty use kde , lots of  stuff there if u get it all
[11:00] <hastesaver> ckopn, did you look in Preferences -> Screen resolution?
[11:01] <zcat[1] > libsvga1 - console SVGA display libraries
[11:01] <ckopn> hastesaver, yes i mean resolution on logon screen , not workspace
[11:01] <hastesaver> phenom, "dpkg -S libvga.so.1" will give you the answer (libsvga1, as zcat[1]  said)
[11:02] <_yo_sidny4> ok, it's downloading kdm and kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <phenom> hastesaver, I will have to close Gnome for that?
[11:03] <_yo_sidny4> after those download and install, just change that when I'm at the logon screen?
[11:03] <lawton> is it possible to tell X11 to only use 1600x1200 at 60hz?
[11:03] <hastesaver> phenom, no, just install that package (libsvga1) from Synaptic
[11:03] <zcat[1] > _yo_sidny4: after you reboot kdm will be your login screen ..
[11:03] <_yo_sidny4> ok
[11:04] <Jellman> lawton, what i did was edit the cof file
[11:04] <zcat[1] > I think your session will still be whatever you used last (which will be gnome) though
[11:04] <_yo_sidny4> yeah, then just change the session to KDE
[11:05] <lawton> Jellman: yeah i don't really understand how to edit it
[11:05] <zcat[1] > having both gnome and kde is a bit of a pain.. I'd have stuck with gnome.
[11:05] <Epic-> anyone running flux?
[11:05] <phenom> hastesaver, That seemed to work but now I have another error?
[11:06] <Jellman> emm, i cant exactly remeber, if you go in to the terminal and type sudo gedit /ect/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <phenom> hastesaver, Do you mind if I IM you the error?
[11:06] <Jellman> and edit all the rez perams to 1600 x w/e
[11:06] <zcat[1] > lawton: on the xorg-server config, just check 1600x1200 and uncheck all the others. On the next screen tell it (medium config) your monitor does 1600x1200 at 60hz and that's the mode it will use
[11:06] <watson540> having gnome and kde is cool, cuz you get to run the apps from both worlds :)
[11:06] <hastesaver> phenom, better to ask here, more people can help you (unless it's a long error message, in which case use pastebin)
[11:06] <watson540> although i hate gnome and like kde but dont use it
[11:06] <Epic-> Can anyone tell me how I should be able to select fluxbox? It is installed and .desktop was edited
[11:06] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah ok thanks
[11:07] <phenom> hastesaver, pastebin?
[11:07] <watson540> Epic-<-- usually you would edit yout ~/.xinitrc
[11:07] <lawton> zcat[1] : the configuration program dumped me to the commandline at the bitdepth selection menu
[11:07] <watson540> and put a line like 'exec fluxbox' in it
[11:07] <Epic-> no mention fo that in the wiki
[11:07] <Epic-> 5.04 here though
[11:07] <zcat[1] > oh crap. That's bad.
[11:07] <Jellman> has any one got ubuntu working on the new intel macs?
[11:07] <watson540> or it could be .xsession, depends on your distro i think
[11:07] <hastesaver> phenom, read the topic :) (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)
[11:08] <Epic-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox?highlight=%28fluxbox%29
[11:08] <lawton> it says xserver-xorg postinstall warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; back in <snip>
[11:08] <Epic-> That's what I followed
[11:08] <zcat[1] > Oh.. ok.
[11:08] <zcat[1] > yeah, that's normal.. I thought it asked if you wanted to save it first and kinda warned you that you're finished before it quit.
[11:09] <Jellman> no one?
[11:09] <zcat[1] > Jellman: I got it working on my old G3 PPC mac.
[11:09] <lawton> zcat[1] :  yeah i thought it was supposed to ask me to save first
[11:09] <phenom> hastesaver, I have used Pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14207
[11:09] <lawton> it just dumped to commandline, looks like it crashed sort of
[11:10] <Epic-> odd
[11:10] <zcat[1] > nah, should be OK
[11:10] <Jellman> yhe, i woudl imagen you just use the ppc build, ive got a new intel imac, i was wondering if any one has managed to get it to boot and work with x
[11:10] <Epic-> i installed it, had no trouble editing the file as per the wiki... go back to the file and it's gone
[11:11] <zcat[1] > for an intel mac you'd use the x86 build.. or do you mean for the G3 ?
[11:11] <hastesaver> phenom, oh, I know nothing of quake, ask others :)
[11:11] <phenom> hmm, ok
[11:11] <zcat[1] > beige g3's boot really weird. Getting ubuntu onto one takes skillz!!
[11:12] <cafuego> they're both evil and oldworld
[11:12] <Epic-> No help?
[11:12] <Jellman> the x86 build, iwould need, but i dont think theres any support for efi yet is there?
[11:12] <sybariten> most macs are really evil
[11:13] <hastesaver> phenom, maybe you should restart X and try again
[11:13] <lawton> macs aren't evil...
[11:13] <lawton> anyhow
[11:13] <lawton> i'd rather start macs vs pcs
[11:13] <spikeb> Jellman: dont need EFI support
[11:13] <spikeb> Jellman: apple introduced bios compatibility
[11:14] <Jellman> boot camp?
[11:14] <phenom> hastesaver, logout, then log in or kill X?
[11:14] <sybariten> lawton: start how ?
[11:14] <lawton> sybariten: nevermind
[11:14] <lawton> zcat[1] : argh i'm getting out of sync again :\
[11:15] <hastesaver> phenom, yes, log out, then kill X (ctrl-alt-backspace), login. You can also just reboot completely
[11:15] <watson540> Epic-<-- i told you larrady..edit ~/.xinitrc
[11:15] <zcat[1] > sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:15] <watson540> Epic-<-- and if you're totallly brainless install gdm or kdm and let it do your dirty work
[11:16] <phenom> hastesaver, How would I login as root? While installing Ubuntu it gave me no option to create a root account, only a normal user account
[11:16] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[11:16] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:16] <watson540> phenom<-- root is created automatically..or should be
[11:16] <watson540> it was on my box :)
[11:16] <watson540> root HAS to be there, ununtu just starts you off with a non standard password
[11:16] <cafuego> you don't log in as root, you don't need to. If you think you do, you are mistaken.
[11:16] <phenom> watson540, so root's usernams is root, but what about the password?
[11:17] <hastesaver> phenom, why do you want to login as root? Use sudo
[11:17] <daryl_> !mic
[11:17] <ubotu> daryl_: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- ubuntu makes it up for you, you have to change it
[11:17] <cafuego> phenom: Log in as yourself, use sudo. Check the wiki page ubotu told you about.
[11:17] <daryl_> Could someone make a suggestion wher eto get help using a microphone?
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- i forget the details its been a while..its prolly on the wiki
[11:17] <hastesaver> daryl_, doesn't just plugging it in work? :)
[11:17] <watson540> phenom<-- log in as a superuser, then in your GUI go to the user editor an change roots pw that way
[11:17] <phenom> I can only se sudo commands in a terminal tho?
[11:18] <daryl_> hastesaver: if it did, i woudln't be bugging people
[11:18] <phenom> watson540, "superuser" is the account name?
[11:18] <cafuego> phenom: You cna run gksu for X stuff if you really need to, but you generally _really_ don't
[11:18] <watson540> phenom<-- no, a superuser IS the account that ubuntu DID let  you create during install :)
[11:18] <daryl_> anyone know a good way to test my microphone to see if its working?
[11:18] <lawton> overall i'm pretty impressed with ubuntu's hardware autodetection
[11:18] <lawton> except for this one area
[11:19] <hastesaver> daryl_, have you made sure the volume isn't turned down or something? Check the volume applet, and also the volume in whatever app you're trying to record. Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I once spent a whole day without realising my volume was off :)
[11:19] <watson540> ill get flamed for this but here goes..I run as root every single day for everyday things :)
[11:19] <zcat[1] > phenom: the admin tools un ubuntu will ask for your user password via gksudo and run as root..
[11:19] <watson540> and i never had a problem yet
[11:19] <hastesaver> watson540, yes, fine, but there's no *need* to enable the root account
[11:19] <watson540> of course to irc, i just login as a normal user in the terminal
[11:19] <watson540> hastesaver<-- agreed
[11:19] <sybariten> daryl_: _don't_ blow into it. thats hated among sound technicians, being the laymans way of testing it
[11:19] <zcat[1] > watson540: that's nice. I run as an ordinary user and have never had a problem either. Why take the extra risk?
[11:20] <hastesaver> watson540, and it's dangerous to recommend. People might start logging in as root and end up doing bad things to themselves :)
[11:20] <watson540> zcat[1] <-- i get sick of typing in sudo all the time, when i want something done i want to do it in as few steps as possible
[11:20] <daryl_> i decided to open the sound record, and try it.  its saying the oss is open by another application
[11:20] <watson540> hastesaver<-- oh dont get me wrong, i never said i reccommend it )
[11:20] <watson540> heh
[11:21] <watson540> dunno why i said it, for the conveersation value i guess
[11:21] <zcat[1] > what do you need to use sudo for ?
[11:21] <phenom> Ok I'm confused now about change the root's password, I'm in User and Groups window
[11:21] <watson540> phenom<-- then your close
[11:21] <Ng> phenom: did you read the wiki page?
[11:21] <Ng> phenom: it's all explained there
[11:21] <hastesaver> watson540, recommend == tell people about it. On this channel, you should always tell people to use sudo :) (I've enabled the root account too, BTW ;)
[11:21] <phenom> Wiki URL please
[11:22] <watson540> hastesaver<-- noted, i didnt realize people are such tools that they would follow some anonymous fool like me's word :)
[11:22] <zcat[1] > once your machine is set up you should need to use root very infrequently.. never for ordinary things like reading a CD anyhow..
[11:22] <Ng> !tell phenom about sudo
[11:22] <watson540> i just hate sudo'ing all the time :9 i figger if i can run as 'root' in windows for yrs and not kill my puter i shopuld be ok in linux :) (disclaimer: this is only my opinion , and im a nobody_
[11:23] <Ng> I think this discussion about personal root preferences has wandered into #ubuntu-offtopic realms ;)
[11:23] <watson540> agreed
[11:25] <watson540> didnt mean to kill the convo guys
[11:28] <bl4ckY> hi
[11:29] <nuxien> hello
[11:30] <nuxien> i want to know the pass root on a live-cd please
[11:30] <vitry> ubuntu
[11:30] <cafuego> !tell nuxien -about sudo
[11:31] <lawton> okay i give up
[11:31] <lawton> stuck at 1280x1024 for now
[11:31] <lawton> maybe installing all the updates will help
[11:31] <zcat[1] > lawton: perhaps your monitor just can't do 1600x1200 ?
[11:31] <lawton> zcat[1] : it does it fine with windows
[11:31] <lawton> or with my mac
[11:32] <lawton> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2007FP/en/about.htm
[11:32] <Ng> lawton: does /var/log/Xorg.0.log list any reasons why it didn't choose a 1600x1200 mode?
[11:32] <slackern> i tried getting the same resolutions i use in windows then the ati driver all of a sudden changed from PCI:2:0:0 to PCI:2:0:1 :)
[11:32] <lawton> Ng, hrm i will check
[11:32] <zcat[1] > what video card? nvidias suck at detecting the monitor modes..
[11:33] <hasan> wow....linux has a free online monopoly game called The Atlantic Board Game
[11:33] <lawton> my monitor's spec page says "Vertical scan range56 Hz to 76 Hz, exception 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz only"
[11:33] <lawton> zcat[1] : intel gma 950
[11:33] <slackern> argh 60hz *carves out eyes with a spoon*
[11:33] <Ng> zcat[1] : my nvidia cards have always seen monitors just fine thanks :)
[11:33] <Ng> with DCC or EDID
[11:33] <Ng> slackern: it's a flat panel, refresh is largely irrelevant
[11:33] <lawton> does the "exception 1600 x 1200 at 60 Hz only" confuse ubuntu?
[11:33] <lawton> slackern: 60hz on an LCD ain't so bad
[11:34] <lawton> 60hz on a CRT, no way
[11:34] <slackern> Ng: oh thought it was crt
[11:34] <zcat[1] > comment out "Option DPMS" in your xorg.conf.. the monitor might be reporting a refresh rate it can't actually do..
[11:34] <zcat[1] > or the video card might be confued
[11:34] <lawton> hrm
[11:35] <variant> whats a really cool app that i can install on ubuntu? im just a bit bored right now
[11:35] <Ng> zcat[1] : DPMS is for power control, do you mean DDC?
[11:35] <zcat[1] > that will force xorg to try the settings you told it to try..
[11:35] <lawton> Ng: the log file says "Not using build-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size)
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> variant: eboard and gnuchess :)
[11:35] <lawton> does that mean ubuntu thinks i don't have enough video memory?
[11:35] <RandolphCarter> lawton: virtual size?  could you paste your xorg.conf to the pasteboard?
[11:36] <daryl_> I'm using the sound recorder.  I press the record button, and talk.  I then press the stop button.  I then press the start button, to play back what I recorded.  nothing is happening.  I think somehow my soundcard input for microphone isn't setup right.  anyone able to help?
[11:36] <zcat[1] > Ng: it is? I always thought that option was about the monitor reporting it's own refresh rates..
[11:37] <lawton> RandolphCarter: coming up...
[11:37] <cappiz> a friend forgot to do a apt-get dist-upgrade after he change the sources list.... now he gets pernel error all the time with apt-get install. apt-get -f install doesnt work. is there a way to fix this?
[11:37] <Ng> zcat[1] : afaik it's DDC and/or EDID that do that, DPMS is used to put the monitor into standby/suspend modes to save power
[11:37] <zcat[1] > daryl_: open up kmix (doubleclick the little speaker on the menubar) and check that mic is on as a recording source
[11:37] <cappiz> -pernel*
[11:38] <daryl_> zcat!!! woot : ) thank you man,  now i cna't hardly hear what i'm saying at all
[11:39] <lawton> RandolphCarter: http://pastebin.com/724255
[11:40] <daryl_> zcat: i turned the capture microphone allt he way up
[11:41] <lawton> RandolphCarter: also, http://pastebin.com/724261
[11:41] <lawton> for the logfile errors
[11:41] <zcat[1] > daryl_: there should be a mic and a speaker icon at the bottom of each slider.. the mic sets if it's being used for recording and the speaker if the source is passed through to the output.. if you get feedback turn the output one off..
[11:43] <daryl_> zcat: no feedback.  however, i can't hardly hear the playback.  does that make sense?  how do i boost the volume more?
[11:44] <daryl_> i found it
[11:45] <daryl_> zcat i found it. i had to go to preferences
[11:45] <daryl_> and add capture
[11:45] <daryl_> then crank up the capture
[11:47] <almenfors> guys i need help here. i found a post on the webb about getting my wireless netgear to work with ndiswrapper. and ive followed it step by step. but i cant get it to work. have i missed anything?
[11:47] <zcat[1] > almenfors: you missed the part where ndiswrappers sucks..
[11:48] <Assassin5> almenfors, why not just use the madwifi drivers. i use them on my netgear
[11:48] <lawton>  hrm, how do i shutdown the x server manually?
[11:48] <lawton> i'm trying to restart it from one of the other terminals
[11:48] <Assassin5> and I agree. ndiswrapper does suck
[11:48] <zcat[1] > lawton: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:49] <lawton> zcat[1] : ah thanks
[11:49] <zcat[1] > dammit, my cat just 'playfully' ripped half my face off. little shit!
[11:50] <Hajuu> zcat[1] : rape it
[11:50] <Hajuu> have your way with that depraved little cat
[11:51] <zcat[1] > gonna trim the little bastard's claws .. brb..
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> lawton: sorry about that, boss called
[11:53] <RandolphCarter> lawton: are you using a PCI graphics card? :/
[11:55] <lawton> RandolphCarter: no, it's intel integrated gma 950
[11:56] <lawton> can i screw up my monitor with the wrong refresh combination btw?
[11:56] <almenfors> humm..whats "madwifi" ?
[11:58] <lawton> are there any other x.org server modules i should load by default besides the regular ones?
[11:58] <valehru> how can i re-install the mbr for grub as my windows re-install wiped it out
[11:58] <Kyl1> hi all, is there a version of ubuntu that can run on 16MB of ram, 2GB hard drive and 150MHz processor?
[11:58] <l_> probably
[11:59] <watson540> valehru<-- grub-install /dev/hda
[11:59] <valehru> where hda is the main disk?
[11:59] <watson540> Kyl1<-- dont know about a version of ubuntu but surely one of the million linux distros has you covered
[11:59] <watson540> valehru<-- correct
[12:00] <watson540> Kyl1<-- if you pick the right packages im sure you could get ubuntu installed
[12:00] <valehru> hang on.... /dev/sda/ is my main disk
[12:00] <valehru> I have 2 partitions
[12:00] <valehru> sda1 and sda2
[12:00] <Kyl1> watson540: could it be possible for graphical
[12:00] <valehru> which to I point it to..
[12:00] <watson540> valehru<-- thats ok, as long as thats the primary master, that your computer boots off of
[12:01] <watson540> Kyl1<-- probably if you ran a smaller window manager instead of kde or gnome
[12:01] <snail> Kyl1: you want dsl. damn small linux
[12:01] <dfgas> Kyl1, text verson
[12:01] <snail> Kyl1: google for it, there are a hundred variants
[12:01] <lawton> dang
[12:01] <valehru> xfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"]  is not on an XFS filesystem
[12:01] <lawton> everything works so long as i delete 1600x1200 from the selection
[12:02] <watson540> valehru<-- well did you type grub-install /dev/sda?
[12:02] <valehru> ok...how do I get back to bash from windows...use the ubuntu cd to repaid it..
[12:02] <valehru> yes
[12:02] <valehru> repaid = repaid <<
[12:03] <watson540> valehru<-- it looks like your boot partition is messed, but you should be able to boot the ubuntu live cd or somee equivalant
[12:03] <watson540> valehru<-- you also might try apt-get remove grub then apt-get install grub
[12:03] <watson540> to se if apt will automatically make grub install itself
[12:04] <watson540> i wuoold reccommend lilo, but im not sure ubuntu likes it too much as  i had probs installing it
[12:04] <SheriF_WorK> i have a fast question how to take screenshots for the ubuntu installer while i'm working on the installaing
[12:04] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- only way i can think of is to run the installer through vmware
[12:05] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: i'm sure tehre is a short cut like F2 or something mandriva can make screenshot with F2
[12:05] <kane777> anybody knows of good text editor for programming?? (with highlighted syntax and some other functions that are useful for programmers)
[12:05] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: so i think ubuntu may be have somehting like that i'm digging into online
[12:05] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, where would the image be stored?
[12:05] <hastesaver> kane777, emacs, vim, ...
[12:05] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- yes, iim sure there is a framebuffer SS taker somehwere, but the question is how do you use it when your system isnt even installed yet?
[12:05] <Ng> kane777: gedit can do syntax highlighting, or there's anjuta if you want a fuller development studio
[12:05] <hastesaver> !editor
[12:05] <ubotu> it has been said that editor is ed, vim, nano, emacs, gedit, kate, bluefish, gvim, pida, eclipse, nvu, quanta
[12:06] <McNutella> Are there any other file managers I can use instead of the slowish default one ?
[12:06] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: but i think u already have mnt point and things extaracted in ur harddisk ?
[12:06] <almenfors> hum.. the server puts the nic as active but i cant surf/ping my router..
[12:06] <watson540> hastesaver<-- how come midnight commander isnt listed??? its my favorite
[12:06] <njdavid> Anyone here play BF1942?
[12:06] <chamo> how can I have better battery support for my laptop ?
[12:06] <hastesaver> watson540, it's an editor? I thought it's a file manager or something like that...
[12:06] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- i dunno, you have your work cut out, good question
[12:06] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver when u install ubuntu ALT +F2 u'll find console and u find some stuff i nur harddisk already for extracting and installing.
[12:06] <watson540> hastesaver<-- it comes with a binary called 'mcedit' :)
[12:07] <watson540> you can also call the binary thru MC though
[12:07] <SheriF_WorK> kane777: jedit also
[12:07] <McNutella> !filemanager
[12:07] <ubotu> McNutella: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <McNutella> hmmm
[12:07] <McNutella> nothing
[12:07] <watson540> hastesaver<-- mcedit remonds me a lot of the old DOS 'edit' binary :)
[12:07] <Ng> McNutella: try rox-filer
[12:07] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, When Ubuntu isn't even installed yet, how do you hope to take screenshots and use them?
[12:07] <kane777> THX all... I'll try anjuta...
[12:07] <McNutella> Ng: whats that like to install ?
[12:08] <watson540> it is a cool file manager though you're right..i used to love using it too
[12:08] <SheriF_WorK> hastesaver: i want to have them sure there is away i'll look for it and let u know guys :-) mandriva done it i'm sure debian has something like that
[12:08] <watson540> before i knew how to work my way around a shell that is
[12:08] <Ng> McNutella: it's available from the regular repositories, so you can install it with apt-get or synaptic
[12:08] <watson540> but now i use mcedit for text editing, i guess vi would be my next choice but those are the ony two i took the time to figure out
[12:08] <McNutella> ng and does this make the ubuntu default manager disable ?
[12:09] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, how did it work in Mandriva? Where were the screenshots of the installation stored?
[12:10] <watson540> good question
[12:10] <SheriF_WorK> hastesaver: u click F2 and it stores in somewhere like /usr/share/somehting but mandriva tells u where
[12:10] <watson540> 'click f2' ROFL can you see the paradox?/
[12:10] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, this must be *after* the installation, right?
[12:10] <watson540> i know what you mean, but it was funny :)
[12:11] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- like i said the only way i ever heard of such a thing is to run install through vmware
[12:11] <watson540> is there a frambuffer SS snapper out there??
[12:12] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver ok 1 min i'm looking for the option in mandriva and the location
[12:12] <watson540> i want to figure out how to put a picture on my framebuffered console
[12:12] <watson540> i've seen it before..
[12:13] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: wann see my old one :P?
[12:13] <McNutella> anyway to turn off the minimize animations ?
[12:13] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: eglug.org/node/80  but it's really old distro
[12:13] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- no, tell me how you did it :)..i know ubuntu does it, thats how 'usplash' works
[12:14] <watson540> the splash screen you see on boot
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: i done it by making a bootsplash them
[12:14] <vladuz976> other than xdvi is there something to view dvi files?
[12:14] <watson540> i think it involves making a certain size bmp and all that though
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: yes
[12:14] <watson540> :(
[12:14] <watson540> i gotta go google on how to set up openssh. i installed it but it has no man page!
[12:14] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: saw it ?
[12:14] <watson540> hold on a sec..
[12:14] <huecijako> hola
[12:14] <watson540> iill look :)
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: what u want about ssh ?
[12:15] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- just wanting to set it up so i and a few friends can ssh into my box
[12:15] <huecijako> alguna putita
[12:15] <watson540> huecijako<-- #ubuntu-es
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: apt-get openssh-server
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: apt-get install openssh-server
[12:15] <variant> watson540: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:15] <SheriF_WorK> yes and thats all ;-) then ppl ssh user@urip
[12:16] <variant> watson then on the remote box do ssh user@host
[12:16] <freakabcd> hi all
[12:16] <freakabcd> i really need help with xorg on breezy
[12:16] <watson540> variant<-- sweeet...does apt auto install it in my startup scripts then?/ crontab i think is the name im looking for
[12:16] <freakabcd> i updated the my install to latest breezy packages and now X refuses to come up.
[12:16] <Ng> McNutella: no, you'll need to tell nautilus not to draw your desktop, that will stop it from loading, then you can just launch rox from a menu/toolbar/desktop launcher
[12:16] <variant> watson540: yes, its sets up the init script
[12:16] <freakabcd> and strangely enough not even console shows up!
[12:17] <variant> watson540: and installing it should generate all the host keys etc automatically
[12:17] <freakabcd> i have to ssh from another machine in order to do anything on this affected machine!
[12:17] <freakabcd> it boots to a bluish green coloured screen
[12:17] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- ii saw it..pretty sweet..although im not much for mandiva and junk :)
[12:17] <freakabcd> and no cursor or anything :(
[12:17] <watson540> goin to test this ssh thng thanks for the suggestions
[12:17] <McNutella> Ng: I take it the cmd is ROX ?
[12:17] <McNutella> yeah
[12:18] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: now i'm using ubuntu so thats old ;-)
[12:18] <watson540> whoah
[12:18] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: and no time for messing around
[12:18] <watson540> the bastitch failes to start!!
[12:18] <Blippe> ubotu pipe?
[12:18] <ubotu> methinks pipe is a | often used in bash
[12:18] <watson540> i knew ssh wouldnt be too easy..too good to be true
[12:19] <MrRio> watson540: ssh is really easy
[12:19] <watson540> maybe it failed because it was already initialized
[12:19] <watson540> cause openssh-server was already on my box, so that makes sense..doesnt it?
[12:19] <Blippe> ssh on ubotu is easy as shit
[12:20] <watson540> hrm i need to test it locally..is there a way?
[12:20] <hastesaver> watson540, apt-get install openssh-server was all I had to do :)
[12:20] <variant> watson540: ssh user@localhost
[12:20] <hastesaver> watson540, BTW, I had problems -- I couldn't ssh from my own computer, but I could ssh from outside... I don't remember how I finally fixed that
[12:20] <MrRio> watson540: ssh yourname@localhost
[12:20] <MrRio> watson540, then type your password
[12:20] <watson540> hastesaver<-- yeah, i didi that :)..it was already installed.went to initalize it and it 'failed' so im thinking its because it was probably already running ?
[12:21] <Blippe> MrRio, or even easier ssh localhost
[12:21] <watson540> yah it works :)
[12:21] <MrRio> Blippe: lol, indeed
[12:21] <variant> watson540: you might need to reinstall it to generate the host keys (easy way) or use ssh-keygen to make them
[12:21] <variant> watson540: nm that then if it works :)_
[12:21] <watson540> it worked it let me login :)
[12:21] <variant> good
[12:21] <watson540> now..someone told me it was possible through iptables to set a static ip..
[12:22] <variant> watson540: not really, if its an ip you get from your isp then its up to them
[12:22] <Blippe> normally it would be wise to change from port 22 to something else for the openssh deamn
[12:22] <watson540> variant<-- thats what i though
[12:22] <watson540> t
[12:22] <matt__> hey how am i able to put links to programs on my ubuntu application menu?
[12:22] <watson540> oh well im gonna install dynip then :)
[12:22] <variant> watson540: you can use a dynamic ip redirector
[12:22] <variant> watson540: exactly
[12:22] <ubuntu> hi
[12:23] <variant> Blippe: dont see what difference it makes.. seeing as a normal port scan will tell you what port its running on
[12:23] <variant> hi ubuntu
[12:23] <ubuntu> this is my first time on this chat
[12:23] <watson540> ubuwell then, we're in for a treat !
[12:23] <matt__> anyone?
[12:24] <variant> ubuntu: welcome
[12:24] <watson540> damn nick completion
[12:24] <ubuntu> thanks variant
[12:24] <variant> ubuntu: hope its usfull to you :P
[12:24] <Ng> matt__: check that "acme" is installed, it's a menu editor
[12:24] <Blippe> variant, since i changed to another port noone has tried passwords on my deamon
[12:25] <hastesaver> Blippe, how do you know when someone is trying?
[12:25] <freakabcd> Blippe, its not too difficult to identify the port ssh is running on
[12:25] <Blippe> hastesaver, ethereal
[12:25] <matt__> Ng: whats the package name for it? i just done apt-get install acme but it didnt work
[12:26] <freakabcd> lol, you use ethereal to check if someone is trying to connect via ssh?
[12:26] <Blippe> freakabcd, yeah, and most scriptkiddies are lazy
[12:26] <variant> Blippe: guess it could stop a few random attacks looking for weak password/username combos
[12:26] <freakabcd> aren;t the sshd logs a better option?
[12:26] <variant> Blippe: but if you have a good pass then it doesn matter
[12:26] <variant> tripwire is a good system
[12:26] <Ng> matt__: that's a good question, I'm not sure offhand because it's changed in dapper
[12:27] <Ng> matt__: perhaps try searching in synaptic for menu editor
[12:27] <ubuntu> ci sono italiani
[12:27] <Blippe> freakabcd, no, i used ethereal to see why my tftp and dhcp server fucked up every other restart for my diskless
[12:27] <freakabcd> heh, ok
[12:27] <variant> ubuntu: this is an english spoken channel
[12:27] <freakabcd> !it
[12:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:27] <Ng> !it
[12:27] <Ng> doh
[12:27] <variant> ubuntu: there is probably annother one for italian
[12:27] <matt__> ng: ok thanks
[12:28] <ghozzt> anyone here that has some experience with USB smart card readers under Ubuntu
[12:28] <badders> anyone know if its possible to stop avahi daemon using a network interface? i want to have it broadcast only eth0 not on eth1
[12:28] <test>  anybody can tell me how can I manage with http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5757/capture9dz.png ? thx
[12:28] <ubuntu> thanks ubotu,I must resolve some problems about vmware
[12:28] <hastesaver> where are the ssh logs?
[12:29] <ubuntu> when i resolve my problem i come back
[12:29] <buzze> hi
[12:29] <OlliK> hi
[12:29] <ubuntu> see you tomorrow
[12:29] <buzze> i have a question
[12:30] <ghozzt> hastesaver: which ssh logs? user login? daemon related?
[12:30] <Ng> hastesaver: /var/log/auth.log
[12:30] <hastesaver> ghozzt, all of them -- I can't find any
[12:30] <matt__> is utorrent aviable for linux yet?
[12:30] <buzze> where do i put a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:30] <almenfors> anyone experienced with netgear wg311v3? cant get it to work as its suggested on both ubuntu forum and another forum.
[12:31] <ompaul> ubuntu, ubotu is the channel bot :-)
[12:31] <ghozzt> hastesaver: for logins, do lastlog - all the rest: /var/log/syslog
[12:31] <hastesaver> Ng, Hmm, I see lots of people have been trying! What should I do about it?!
[12:32] <buzze> where do i ptu a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:32] <Ng> hastesaver: that's up to you - personally I just make sure that my passwords are strong and the system is up-to-date, but you can move it to another port or require ssh keys if you like
[12:32] <buzze> in rc.local ?
[12:32] <ghozzt> hastesaver: run sshd on another port eg 5050 and disable ssh root login
[12:32] <hastesaver> Ng, ok, so it's not a problem? The same user has been trying lots of random usernames :)
[12:33] <hastesaver> ghozzt, I've already disabled root login... how do I change the port?
[12:33] <watson540> matt__: i dunno , but 'rtorrent' is a good one
[12:33] <megaman123> anyone knows what this means: data.h:38: warning: 'class cSacnDir' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor ???
[12:33] <hastesaver> ghozzt, oh, /etc/ssh/sshd_config, fine
[12:34] <watson540> i love ssh, its so magical
[12:34] <hastesaver> How do I make it require ssh-keys?
[12:34] <sybariten> watson540: it is.
[12:34] <watson540>   :)
[12:34] <sybariten> until you get char encoding problems
[12:34] <buzze> where do i ptu a script that i wanted to start up at boot
[12:34] <watson540> sybariten<-- lol
[12:35] <buzze> in rc.local ?
[12:35] <buzze> i have dapper beta
[12:35] <watson540> you mean when the terminal shows you a bunch of seros instead of text?
[12:35] <watson540> zeros* too
[12:35] <buzze> why does nobody answer my question
[12:36] <watson540> buzze<-- why are you not paying us to do so?
[12:36] <watson540> buzze<-- there is a init editor around somewhere i forget the name
[12:36] <Blippe> buzze, you use kde or gnome?
[12:36] <sybariten> watson540: not necessarily zeroes
[12:36] <watson540> but it lets you edit what gets started at boot
[12:36] <megaman123> watson540: is that how it goes :)
[12:36] <Blippe> buzze and dapper is in #ubuntu+1
[12:36] <buzze> gnome
[12:36] <watson540> sybariten<-- yah usually its a block character i see :)
[12:36] <sybariten> watson540: it could be any kind of manure really, if you're trying to set up a Putty connection with some funky settings
[12:36] <Ng> buzze: the bootup process is a series of scripts in /etc/rc2.d/ so you can just drop something in there that starts with S and then a number
[12:36] <buzze> oh sorry didnt know
[12:36] <watson540> just didnt know the ascii code for it so i said zero
[12:36] <kane777> I have created on a hosting site a virtual server runing Debian... and I was wondering what are the ways to controll it?? Is ssh the only possibility??
[12:37] <buzze> thanks ng
[12:37] <Blippe> buzze there is a autostart application or something of the like in the preferences menu
[12:37] <watson540> sybariten<-- yah i had that problem when i accidentally removed all my x fonts before :)
[12:37] <sybariten> watson540: the thing is, character encoding and terminal representation (especially when using curses) is a whole scientific chapter of its own
[12:37] <ompaul> kane777, why not use Ubuntu, webmin but its not my preferred method ssh is ones friend
[12:37] <watson540> could only use one font and it was 8 point..gah
[12:37] <peetu> mm, does anyone here own an ati card an has got it working on ubuntu ?
[12:37] <watson540> peetu<-- lots of people do
[12:38] <ompaul> kane777, in fact even with dsl or broadband doing ssh -C username@domain yields more throughput
[12:38] <megaman123> how can i connect to network drive from console ??
[12:38] <peetu> I mean, i have drivers + stuff but still games lag a shitload
[12:38] <watson540> peetu<-- i run counterstrik 1.6 thru cedega with opengl enabled ina 1024.768 res. :)
[12:38] <kane777> ompaul, there was no option to have ubuntu... only debian, slackware or gentoo...
[12:38] <peetu> watson540 mm, i only have wine :s no money for cedega :<
[12:38] <ompaul> kane777, switch providers :)
[12:38] <watson540> peetu<-- just because you have the drivers installed doesnt neccessarily mean you have X configed to use them :0
[12:39] <peetu> mm
[12:39] <peetu> sec
[12:39] <kane777> ompaul, do you know of any free virtual server hosting??
[12:39] <watson540> peetu<-- what is the output of 'glxinfo'?
[12:39] <ompaul> kane777, no I pay for it :-)
[12:39] <watson540> peetu<-- if it tells you 'direct rendering = no' or anything says MESA then its not configged
[12:39] <ompaul> hole even
[12:40] <buzze> then for what are the dirs rc0.d, rc1.d,  rc3.d , rc4.d
[12:40] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver : thats in mandriva " I will now just give some tips and explanations on what and how I do things, along with the screenshots I made during the install on desktop system neuchatel and my laptop (just hit F2 to make a screenshot, you can find them later in /root/DrakX-screenshots/). "
[12:40] <watson540> buzze<-- diff. stages of init
[12:40] <kane777> ompaul, well this one's free... I was just trying it... friend told me that I could make a tunnel and controle my home PC from anywhere....
[12:40] <hastesaver> SheriF_WorK, ok, nice. Make a feature request if it doesn't exist already :)
[12:40] <buzze> oh offcourse
[12:40] <watson540> kane777<-- you sure can :)
[12:40] <kane777> ompaul, just not sure how...
[12:40] <ompaul> buzze, 0 is shutdown 1 is single user
[12:40] <SheriF_WorK> watson540: hastesaver so now i'll check if it's not in ubuntu but i'm sure it has somehting like that ..
[12:40] <buzze> i know
[12:41] <watson540> SheriF_WorK<-- sweet
[12:41] <peetu> watson540:  now i configd x to use that fglx thingie :D
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- cool, did you use the 'fglrxconfig' script?
[12:41] <ompaul> kane777, look at freenx as one option or vlc as another
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- there is also a way to config it using dpkf but i dont remember exactly the commands
[12:41] <peetu> no, sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <peetu> Why ?
[12:41] <watson540> peetu<-- yah, thats best :)
[12:41] <peetu> :)
[12:41] <ompaul> watson540, those arrows are not needed they are dragging my eyes to those lines :-)
[12:42] <peetu> Reboot, cya in a sec (maybe :D)
[12:42] <watson540> ompaul: my bad bro :), its this nick comletion thing i got going on, ill try and refrain it :)
[12:42] <watson540> restrain even
[12:42] <ompaul> watson540, any half reasonable irc client should highlight when the nick is used, :)
[12:42] <watson540> he rebooted lol
[12:43] <watson540> ompaul: im used to dealing with IRC noobs so it makes it easier on them and me :), i dont deal with them here but on another nwtowrk
[12:43] <ompaul> watson540, hopefully they are using reasonable clients
[12:44] <watson540> ompaul: haha, if you call mirc + laggy ass addons reasonable :)
[12:44] <watson540> sorry bout that cuss word guys, i forgot
[12:44] <ompaul> watson540, yes saying m*c is not good :)
[12:45] <watson540> ompaul: lol i meant the other cuss word :)
[12:45] <ompaul> so before we stray too far offtopic, whats next
[12:45] <watson540> yes..next please
[12:45] <freakabcd> next what? question?
[12:45] <ompaul> why not
[12:45] <watson540> ok
[12:45] <freakabcd> i have one: why the heck is my breezy screwed up after update last night :(
[12:46] <watson540> freakabcd: thats a broad uestion :)
[12:46] <freakabcd> it boots to a bluish/green screen
[12:46] <ompaul> freakabcd, define not working, and what did you update?
[12:46] <freakabcd> and no console nothing.
[12:46] <freakabcd> only way i can get to the machine is by ssh from another
[12:46] <watson540> freakabcd: sounds like your resolution is whacked
[12:46] <peetu> watson540, mm.  Last night I had a crash and couldnt reboot, today there was no problem starting up.. BUT, now when I try to start up firefox, it says I allready have one running (Wich I dont)
[12:47] <freakabcd> i have reconfigured the damn thing 3 or 4 times alredy
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: which game?
[12:47] <peetu> wow :D
[12:47] <peetu> And tux kart
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: did you check glxinfo again and look for direct rendering = yes?
[12:47] <peetu> ehm
[12:47] <peetu> glxinfo ? :D
[12:47] <Ng> Tinse: in your home directory is a directory called .mozilla, in there is one called firefox and in that is one with a strange looking name (letters and numbers). That's your firefox profile - remove the file called "lock" from there
[12:47] <watson540> peetu: i noticed a magical command called 'renice' when it comes to lpaying huge games under wine/cedega
[12:48] <ompaul> freakabcd, please try this,  >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << and choose vesa as the card type, accept all others items as automatic
[12:48] <hastesaver> ok, I have a question -- why does Xchat's "Open in web browser" work fine (opens firefox) when Fx is running, but opens firefox.ubuntu (the old one, 1.08 or whatever) when it's not?
[12:48] <peetu> Direct rendering = no
[12:48] <peetu> :S
[12:48] <freakabcd> ompaul, let me try it now
[12:48] <ompaul> freakabcd, what kind of machine is it (cos that don't work with PPC)
[12:48] <watson540> peetu: then your still not running the fglrz driver :(
[12:48] <Khamael> my password doesn`t seem to work.How do I reset it?
[12:48] <peetu> mm, how do i run it! :D
[12:49] <freakabcd> ompaul, pentium-m, its a laptop, i810
[12:49] <freakabcd> it was working beautifully even with xinerama and all
[12:49] <Tinse> Ng, ok I found it but Nautilus crashed .... dunno what's wrong here but everything seems messed up :(
[12:49] <peetu> !ati
[12:49] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:49] <screamz> Khamael: boot into recovery mode, if you get the # promt, try passwd or if you don t have a user, try adduser
[12:49] <watson540> peetu: also when you DO get DRI running, after you start WOW issue this command - renice 19 -p `pgrep wine`
[12:49] <freakabcd> and suddenly today its all crapped. i can;t even switch to vt. thats what was driving me nuts
[12:49] <ompaul> freakabcd, okay so let me guess, your talking dapper updates?
[12:49] <freakabcd> no
[12:49] <freakabcd> only breezy stuff
[12:50] <freakabcd> you want me to paste the sources.list, if you don;t believe me
[12:50] <buzze> who uses glx i think its great
[12:50] <slackern> hastesaver: you have to go to System->Preferences->Preferred applications and set it up there
[12:50] <watson540> peetu: that command will raise the priority of wine, and it made the difference bwtween me running laggy cs at 640x480 to perfectly smooth at 1024x768 :)
[12:50] <Khamael> screamz: but it shouldn`t do that? logged in as another user, and that worked fine
[12:50] <ompaul> freakabcd, okay do the dance I gave you, that i810 should be native support
[12:50] <buzze> i mean xgl
[12:50] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:50] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[12:50] <freakabcd> yeah iknow. will try with vesa now
[12:50] <ompaul> buzze, ^^ it only works with dapper
[12:50] <Tinse> FFS ! ... everytime I get to the 'lock' file my nautilus crashes !!! ARGH
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: when you ran dpkg, did you select 'ati' for the driver , or 'radeon'?
[12:51] <hastesaver> slackern, do you know if there's a commandline command for bringing it up? I'm using kde, and it's a pain to switch...
[12:51] <neosc> hello all.. i've ubuntu installed and i can see 3 sda hard disk icons on the desktop.. bu twhen i click em i get "you do not have the permissions to view the contents of sda1"
[12:51] <peetu> i selected that fglrz thing
[12:51] <neosc> what could be th eproblem?
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: hrm...
[12:51] <watson540> peetu: have you looked inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:51] <slackern> hastesaver: no idea don't use kde, i just did like that in gnome when i used swiftfox
[12:52] <peetu> watson540:  what about it ?
[12:52] <ompaul> Tinse, so your saying find file status  ... everytime (cos I know you won't use bad language even by initials, us being a G rated channel and all that :-)) approach it with a terminal, what lock file are you looking at?
[12:52] <watson540> peetu: just for the heck of it, see if you can run 'fglrxconfig' i dunno if ati still sends that script with the driver or not
[12:52] <buzze> so dapper channel is #ubuntu-1
[12:52] <ompaul> buzze, no its +1
[12:52] <Ng> buzze: #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <buzze> ok
[12:53] <ompaul> buzze, its the release after the current stables channel
[12:53] <Tinse> ompaul, hehe no ofc I wouldnt! .. it's the lock file in .mozilla/firefox/9felse6352/
[12:53] <watson540> peetu: i was going to say look inside xorg.conf to mkae sure its indeed trying to load your fglrx driver, also look at any error messages that occur when you start X
[12:53] <buzze> oh i see
[12:53] <freakabcd> ompaul, ok. when i run through the list, vesa, then defaults... then autodetect monitor. it doesn;t get back after that :(
[12:53] <peetu> got that config thing up
[12:54] <freakabcd> i.e. get back to the prompt or to the reconfigure app
[12:54] <mabus> how do I mount my usb drive mp3 player please
[12:54] <watson540> peetu: ok go theru the config script then, most things just hit 'enter' to select the default
[12:54] <ompaul> freakabcd, time to turn off X; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:54] <freakabcd> i don;t know what its doing. grr
[12:54] <watson540> peetu: and make sure at the end of the script..when it asks you to save,....make sure it saves it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - because sometimes it will want to save it as xf86config instead
[12:54] <almenfors> i give up ill just install ethernet instead
[12:54] <lss> When I'm using synaptic/kpackager, and I click on a .deb file for the program to install, a lot of the time it needs additional librarie files to run. Why not enable a feature which 'downloads the library for you' ?
[12:54] <ompaul> Tinse, that lock file is a sim link to a port its not for examining :-)
[12:55] <peetu> mm waitup.
[12:55] <ompaul> Tinse,  symbolic  link that is
[12:55] <peetu> watson540:  could we do /query ?
[12:55] <peetu> So much text here and i have to do things while so i always have to look for your guides :)
[12:55] <Tinse> ompaul, that lock file is apparently the thing stopping me from using my firefox
[12:55] <watson540> peetu: plus, you shouldnt hacve to reset every time :) just do a 'modprobe fglrx' if it isnt already loaded and kill X by hhitting ctrl-alt bkspc and restarting it
[12:56] <watson540> linux is made to not restart :)
[12:56] <Tinse> ompaul, firefox refuses to open... says I allready got one running (wich I dont)
[12:56] <peetu> watson540:  mm whats my mouse port :D
[12:56] <peetu> Or how do i find it
[12:56] <watson540> whoah i didnt know people actually used kopete for irc. haha
[12:56] <kane777> where are the repositories file?? source.list or how it's called...
[12:56] <watson540> peetu: just hit enter if you dont know the answer to the question :)
[12:57] <ubuntu> hi
[12:57] <ompaul> Tinse, if you are sure you don't >>ps auwx | grep firefox << to prove it at a command line to rm lock in that directory
[12:57] <maddox> Tinse: I get that sometimes, just killall -9 firefox in a terminal and firefox should open
[12:57] <ubuntu> hi
[12:57] <watson540> ubuntu: you're stuttering
[12:58] <Hajuu> anyone able to help me use screen?
[12:58] <watson540> oop he quit :)
[12:58] <Hajuu> I dont understand it
[12:58] <watson540> Hajuu: man screen.
[12:58] <maddox> ok, to start a screen, type:
[12:58] <maddox> screen [command]
[12:58] <watson540> hajuu: ctrl-a-d to detach, screen -raAD to re-attach
[12:58] <Tinse> rosen@rosen:~$ ps auwx | grep firefox
[12:58] <Tinse> rosen     8256  0.0  0.1   3056   748 pts/0    S+   12:58   0:00 grep firefox
[12:58] <freakabcd> ompaul, ok. gdm is not running, ps -ef  |grep -i xorg returns nothing. still it gets stuck at that step :(
[12:58] <ompaul> watson540, we don't ever do google X or man Y we either advise or say nothing
[12:58] <maddox> Yeah watson beat me to it
[12:58] <Tinse> killall -9 firefox
[12:58] <Tinse> firefox: no process killed
[12:58] <Hajuu> ohh its a key combo! the man just says c-a c.. and I was like wtf
[12:59] <watson540> ompaul: noted :)
[12:59] <watson540> maddox: heh
[12:59] <maddox> ctrl+a then d
[12:59] <ompaul> watson540, we got a bit of a distro ++ kind of karma :)
[12:59] <ompaul> Tinse, killall does not use -9
[12:59] <Hajuu> oh my god
[12:59] <Hajuu> lol
[12:59] <watson540> ompaul: thats good :), this channel is much better than joining #debian and getting roasted into a smore :)
[01:00] <Hajuu> I dont get it
[01:00] <ompaul> watson540, before I got my cloak I used to drop into #debian now and again and give verbose help
[01:00] <Hajuu> what key combos do what/
[01:00] <watson540> Hajuu: dont get what? what are you trying to run?
[01:00] <maddox> ompaul: You can use -9 with killall
[01:00] <ompaul> now I get flamed with it
[01:00] <watson540> ompaul: uh-huh, thats all they have time to do in there tose kiddies kill me..they all gang up on you for trivial things like saying 'lol'
[01:01] <hastesaver> ompaul, you mean you're flamed if you give verbose help? wow...
[01:01] <Tinse> nothing seems to work though
[01:01] <ompaul> maddox, yeah but it is -9 already (or does it do 15)
[01:01] <watson540> i think they all wait around for somepoor noob to show, just to pounce, heh
[01:01] <hastesaver> Tinse, that's because no firefox is not running (you see only 'grep firefox', right?)
[01:02] <hastesaver> Tinse, go into your .mozilla/firefox/<profile directory> and remove 'lock' and '.parentlock'
[01:02] <Tinse> hastesaver, I dont see anything, I have no idea what is going on
[01:02] <Tinse> hastesaver, I can't .. then my nautilus crashes .... this is like the most buggy thing I've ever seen tbh
[01:02] <hastesaver> Tinse, ok, do it from the terminal
[01:02] <Rod> hi..  I need some example index.html files which gphoto creates when you want to export your pictures to a website
[01:03] <ghozzt> anyone here with WINE experience?
[01:03] <Rod> Could you send me some of these examples, please?
[01:03] <ompaul> Tinse, Applications Accessories Terminal << you need that to do the command >> rm lock
[01:03] <Rod> rgoessen at gmail.com
[01:03] <watson540> ghozzt: yes
[01:03] <Rod> is gphoto at the live cd?
[01:03] <alsa> does any one know how i can share a file on linux on a windows network!  i can see the ubuntu server on my network neighborhood on my windows OS but i cant access it ! it keeps asking for a user name and password
[01:03] <alsa> and no account works for that
[01:04] <hastesaver> Nautilus probably crashes because lock is a link to something that doesn't exist... but it shouldn't crash for things like that! Bug report!
[01:04] <watson540> alsa: you might want to set up SSH then
[01:04] <ompaul> !tell alsa about samba
[01:04] <ghozzt> watson540: I am trying to interface with a USB smart card reader in WINE
[01:04] <watson540> or samba :)
[01:04] <ompaul> alsa, have a look at that
[01:04] <ghozzt> watson540: is this possible?
[01:04] <ompaul> alsa, I hit enter too early, have a look at the message from ubotu
[01:04] <peetu> watson540:  omg i got lost, the last questiont didnt let me just press enter :( i had to press y
[01:04] <watson540> ghozzt: hrm? im not sure why you need wine, are ou using a window app to interface with it?
[01:05] <watson540> peetu: wow, what a shame :G
[01:05] <peetu> Yeah indeed :D
[01:05] <watson540> peetu: you're still aloiive though, i see
[01:05] <ghozzt> watson540: it's a windoze only netbanking application that uses a smart card reader
[01:05] <Tinse> aaaaah there we go
[01:05] <peetu> Hehe :D
[01:05] <watson540> ghozzt: honestly, i never messed with them im sorry
[01:05] <Tinse> dont understand how both my firefox and nautilus could crash like that though
[01:05] <ghozzt> watson540: thx anyway
[01:06] <watson540> ghozzt: but just for kicks, what errors are youy getting?
[01:06] <hastesaver> Tinse, does it work now?
[01:06] <Tinse> hastesaver, seems like it
[01:06] <peetu> watson540, now with big excitement im gonna boot my computer :D hope ill get back, I know you like me ;)
[01:06] <watson540> peetu: so restart X and see if it worked!
[01:06] <Tinse> hastesaver, but it was working like a charm yesterday aswell.. untill it stopped :P
[01:06] <hastesaver> Tinse, if Firefox is running, it works. What more do you want? :)
[01:06] <joseles> ol
[01:06] <joseles> hola
[01:07] <Tinse> hastesaver, I want it to stop crashing and stop doing wierd stuff that makes no sense :)
[01:07] <ompaul> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:07] <hastesaver> Tinse, yeah, Fx crashes sometimes. Bad extensions, usually.
[01:07] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[01:08] <Tinse> hastesaver, hehe maybe I should update to dapper though ... is that stable?
[01:08] <watson540> Tinse: i upgraded some 3 days ago and hav eyet to have any problems :)(
[01:08] <ompaul> !dapper
[01:08] <ubotu> **** News Flash **** Dapper has its own channel #ubuntu+1 please join there for dapper (the beta of the next release) configuration, install, or other conversation, dapper will be in this channel from 1st June :-) BUT not until then
[01:08] <hastesaver> Tinse, Dapper is stable enough at the moment (from what I've heard). But I think the problem is probably with Firefox itself :(
[01:08] <Rod> Does the live cd come with gphoto2?
[01:08] <Tinse> watson540, not bad .. I installed this 3 days ago and I have had nothing but problems :P
[01:09] <watson540> ys, cursed firefox, i had to start using Konqueror cause its so buggy at times
[01:09] <peetu> and here i am :o
[01:09] <Tinse> hastesaver, yeah but my entire system crashes aswell + nautilus is acting really wierd
[01:09] <watson540> I had abox once where FF would seg fault every time i started it
[01:09] <ompaul> Tinse, did you use some "helpful" applicaiton that said it was going to install codecs and get all sorts of stuff working?
[01:09] <peetu> watson540 what was that thing again that i see my direct rendering thingie
[01:09] <watson540> peetu: glxinfo
[01:09] <Tinse> ompaul, no I didnt use automatix :P
[01:09] <ompaul> Tinse, :-)
[01:09] <peetu> still no
[01:09] <peetu> :/
[01:10] <clausen> Hey.. my sudo dont work.. I cant access the programs, and my sound dont work.. Anyone know whats wrong ? I tried reinstalling sudo
[01:10] <hastesaver> Tinse, oh, then something is wrong... do a clean installation of Dapper if you can :)
[01:10] <watson540> peetu: umm, can you send me your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <ompaul> Tinse, ff1.5 ?
[01:10] <hastesaver> BTW, is easyubuntu dangerous? Is it recommended?
[01:10] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[01:10] <ubotu> [easyubuntu]  an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.
[01:10] <Tinse> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060418 Firefox/1.0.8 (Ubuntu package 1.0.8)
[01:10] <watson540> peetu: do you use somne sort of graphical login manager? the reason i ask is that you need to see what errors are occuring when you start X
[01:11] <mynimal> I'm having some problems with running make, make install. I'm under Dapper, and I have make installed. It works sometimes, but most of the time it doesn't, even when the documentation says to use it. Basically, I've got a Makefile.am and a Makefile.in, but no makefile - I looked them up and they're a split Makefile or something?
[01:11] <hastesaver> ompaul, I know what easyubuntu is, but I want your opinion :)
[01:11] <Tinse> easyubuntu only works on 686 I'm told
[01:11] <peetu> watson540:  mm? well im not certain what you're asking but i use that gnome login screen i think
[01:11] <vitry> hi, why aserver is not in my ubuntu?
[01:11] <watson540> mynimal: thats because ou must ./configure first:)
[01:11] <mynimal> I have,
[01:11] <ompaul> hastesaver, ask me if I use it, I will say I use the documentation and I have been known to use easyubuntu
[01:12] <catmusic> hi
[01:12] <peetu> Hello
[01:12] <ompaul> hastesaver, depends on the machine
[01:12] <mynimal> It leaves me with those two files (and everything else of course) but no regular Makefile
[01:12] <watson540> mynimal: is there a 'atogen.sh' file in there somewhere?
[01:12] <watson540> err.. autogen.sh
[01:12] <mynimal> Nope, I looked
[01:12] <ompaul> Tinse, no that is incorrect, go to #easyubuntu for more information
[01:12] <mynimal> I'm installing GTK+ 2.8.17
[01:12] <watson540> peetu: do you know how to dcc? i need you to either paste your xorg.conf to pastebin or dcc it to me
[01:13] <peetu> ill paste it to pastebin
[01:13] <peetu> What was the url again ?
[01:13] <freakabcd> mynimal, automake
[01:13] <peetu> !pastebin
[01:13] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:13] <watson540> mynimal: if i was in your situation i would look at the erros , then install every dev tool i could find , heh
[01:13] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, I'll go there and ask about the dangers ;)
[01:13] <ompaul> watson540, dont ever suggest dcc, certain bots kill on sight over it
[01:13] <watson540> ompaul: oh really, my bad. you're learning me a lot today heh
[01:13] <mynimal> It just said no makefile found, :P
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: is this just isolated to one app or what?
[01:14] <mynimal> freakabcd: Ran that in the terminal, still can't make. Or is that a substitute?
[01:14] <mynimal> No, it's throughout many apps.
[01:14] <ompaul> hastesaver, I don't suggest that you do or don't use it, it is the users choice, as I said I use it for some stuff, and there ya go
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: mmost every source i download has a Makefile
[01:14] <peetu> watson540 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14208
[01:14] <watson540> mynimal: if its something in the reposirories you should use apt to install it anyway
[01:15] <freakabcd> mynimal, what does running automake in the top level dir say?
[01:15] <mynimal> I've got: makefile.msc, Makefile.am, Makefile.in
[01:15] <ebraila> How to install a sound Card on Compaq Deskpro?
[01:15] <mynimal> Mind if I paste?
[01:15] <mynimal> FOur lines.
[01:16] <freakabcd> mynimal, have you got a configure.ac or configure.in ?
[01:16] <ompaul> mynimal, yes we mind
[01:16] <ompaul> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[01:16] <mynimal> Ok
[01:16] <freakabcd> mynimal, ?
[01:16] <mynimal> I think I need automake 1.7
[01:16] <ompaul> mynimal, over 2 lines bad
[01:16] <watson540> peetu: your xorg.conf looks okay, which means its something else fudging it up
[01:16] <mynimal> Says version mismatch, this is Automake 1.9.6
[01:16] <Tinse> oh jeez... Singapore is getting a new fiber grid, wich gives all a 1000(!) Mbit dsl
[01:16] <mynimal> ALright, paul
[01:16] <peetu> watson540 okay.
[01:16] <hastesaver> ompaul, ok, thanks. I'll just manually get stuff; that isn't hard anyway
[01:17] <ompaul> !tell hastesaver about restricted
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, try installing 1.8.x: apt-get install automake-1.8
[01:17] <Tinse> 1Gbit DSL ! ... I would need a bigger harddisk
[01:17] <watson540> peetu: i dont know how to get the output errors of starting X when you're running a login manager though :(
[01:17] <mynimal> I have configure.in, also
[01:17] <freakabcd> 1.9.6 is hated by many projects
[01:17] <watson540> maybe if you ctrl-alt-f1 to the first terminal it will tell you
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, didn;t i ask you that question few lines back?
[01:17] <freakabcd> mynimal, run autoconf
[01:17] <alsa> ompaul, can u please tell me what i need to do to make my share viewable
[01:17] <satlan32> hi