[00:11] <mhall119> doctormo: are they?  I'll have to fix whichever is wrong
[00:12] <doctormo> mhall119: Does it say CC-BY-SA?
[00:12] <mhall119> doctormo: do you think a CC license would be better for these than AGPL?
[00:12] <doctormo> Ah wait, colours, yes
[00:12] <doctormo> My colours I believe are ubuntu logo colours, but yours are ubuntu pallet colours.
[00:12] <mhall119> man, you've got a good eye, they look the same to me
[00:12] <doctormo> I think the pallet one looks better to be honest.
[00:13]  * doctormo is putting his colour corrected screen to good use.
[00:14] <doctormo> I like the new logos, except for the milestone one, it looks gravely.
[00:14] <doctormo> ;-)
[00:14] <mhall119> doctormo: I'm thinking we should make them available in the community-website-themes project for other sites, what do you think?
[00:14] <mhall119> I know, I was trying to find something that said "milestone" without also saying "tombstone"
[00:14] <doctormo> I agree, they should also be on spread ubuntu so they can make their way to posters and such.
[00:16] <mhall119> loco-directory is AGPLv3
[00:16] <mhall119> would you be okay re-licensing them as CC-BY-SA?
[00:17] <mhall119> or some other CC license
[00:21] <doctormo> mhall119: My suggestion http://divajutta.com/doctormo/img/milestone_icon.svg
[00:21] <doctormo> mhall119: I here by consent to relicensing as CC-BY-SA for the svg files committed to the loco directory project.
[00:22] <mhall119> doctormo: I like your version better
[00:22] <mhall119> doctormo: thanks
[00:23] <doctormo> You're welcome, I do request.... also birthday parties ;-)
[00:27] <mhall119> oh, a party icon, that I'd like to see
[06:41] <dpm> good morning all
[07:44] <dholbach> good morning
[07:52] <doctormo> dholbach: Seen paultag around lately?
[07:53] <dholbach> doctormo, no, not much - I thought it was mostly due to timezone difference
[07:53] <dholbach> and he had some exams AFAIR
[07:54] <doctormo> Possible, I'm just worried about him since he was a no show at a LoCo event, no answer on his phone and I haven't seen him online or heard from him since.
[07:54] <doctormo> He was to be in Boston by last Thursday, so I'm guessing exams had finished.
[07:54] <dholbach> oh ok
[07:58] <dholbach> I'm not sure how to interpret his facebook page - it doesn't say much about where he is and what he did
[08:39] <czajkowski> dholbach: doctormo he replied to mail on the 30th
[08:40] <doctormo> czajkowski: Great, thanks!
[08:42] <czajkowski> np
[08:53] <dholbach> great
[08:54] <czajkowski> hah applying for jobs on Mozilla fails if you use chrome
[09:06] <kim0> morning everyone
[09:14] <nigelb> Morning folks
[09:15] <dholbach> hey kim0, nigelb
[09:15] <nigelb> czajkowski: heh, that's a nice indicator ;)
[09:15] <nigelb> doctormo: I'm guessing he's too drunk :P
[09:15] <nigelb> hello dholbach, kim0
[09:15] <kim0> hello nigelb dholbach
[09:15] <nigelb> bah, I couldn't work on getting an activity around ftbfs
[09:15] <nigelb> must try today :)
[10:13] <dholbach> dpm, jcastro, did we agree on dates for the irc weeks?
[10:13] <dpm> dholbach, no, we didn't, I was actually thinking about it yesterday. We should bring it up on the team call
[10:15] <dholbach> yes, agreed
[10:16] <dholbach> I noticed that we have to organise UDW in the alpha2 timeframe :)
[10:18] <dpm> time flies!
[10:18] <czajkowski> dholbach: is there a UGJ in this cycle ?
[10:19] <dholbach> jcastro, dpm, kim0: ^ ALARM! We didn't talk about UGJ! :)
[10:19] <kim0> :)
[10:20] <czajkowski> I only raise it as teams were asking what global events are happenign this cycle
[10:20] <czajkowski> and all I can think  of is the release
[10:20] <czajkowski> why do we only have 1 UGJ a year?
[10:20] <dholbach> ?
[10:20] <dholbach> we did it every cycle, no?
[10:20] <czajkowski> I was trying to remember
[10:20] <czajkowski> and for the life of me I can't remember
[10:20] <czajkowski> :s
[10:20] <nigelb> I thought we did
[10:21] <czajkowski> having a wee brain fart
[10:21] <nigelb> I remember organizing it twice
[10:21] <czajkowski> dholbach: when you have the weekend picked let  me knwo and I'll create the event on the LD
[10:22] <dholbach> czajkowski, totally
[10:28] <nigelb> dholbach: does harvest update the ftbfs every release?
[10:28] <dholbach> nigelb, harvest doesn't do anything - it's harvest's data sources that do the actual work of digging out the data
[10:28] <dholbach> harvest is a bit like a primitive rss reader :)
[10:28] <nigelb> dholbach: but reading csv's instead ;)
[10:29] <dholbach> no, not any more
[10:29] <dholbach> or rather not only csv
[10:29] <nigelb> oh, nice
[10:29] <nigelb> so, the reason I ask is, on harvest, I see the ftbfs csv for karmic
[10:29] <nigelb> do we upgrade that up?
[10:29] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=838
[10:29] <dholbach> lp:harvest-data contains the data sources
[10:30] <dholbach> if something is out of date, we should probably remove it
[10:30] <nigelb> I was planning on getting a data of all the failures caused by the --as-need ed failures, I wondered if I could do an activity coordination using harvest
[10:30] <nigelb> since we already have an awesome tool that's built, I'd rather use it :)
[10:30] <nigelb> dholbach: can I give you an MP for harvest data to change the karmic to oneiric then?
[10:30] <dholbach> sure
[10:31] <dholbach> if the oneiric list exists, sure
[10:31] <nigelb> it does, geser linked me to it yesterday, so I'll update it
[10:31] <dholbach> sweet
[10:32] <nigelb> A bunch of folks in -motu showed active interest in being around and guiding people through the ftbfs fixes, so we just need to grab the attention :)
[10:32]  * nigelb did his first oneiric upload last week.
[10:33] <dholbach> awesome
[11:22] <nigelb> dholbach: okay, I checked the source of harvest and harvest data :)
[11:23] <nigelb> so, we're getting all the bugs tagged as ftbfs in LP
[11:23] <nigelb> and the karmic data is from ubuntuwire's ftbgs
[11:23] <nigelb> erm ftbfs
[11:23]  * nigelb updates
[12:11] <dholbach> nigelb, great
[12:23] <nigelb> dholbach: \m/
[12:24] <dholbach> nigelb, there's a couple more changes I'll make
[12:24] <nigelb> dholbach: is there something you'd want help with? :)
[12:25] <nigelb> like something that's blocking because you're busy or something?
[12:25] <dholbach> no no, that's fine
[12:37] <nigelb> :)
[14:03] <nhandler> dholbach, nigelb: I'm working on DEX for the GSoC with mdz. Right now, I'm working on a portal for tracking our work. Do you think making the Ubuntu-related projects available in harvest would be useful to anyone?
[14:03] <dholbach> nhandler, what kind of stuff are you talking about?
[14:05] <nhandler> dholbach: For instance, the last project involved reviewing ancient Ubuntu patches, triaging, and getting them uploaded to Debian where needed. It is looking like the next project will involve dealing with packages that we currently merge from debian to try and reduce the delta as much as possible. A lot of this work will involve uploading to Debian rather than Ubuntu
[14:06] <dholbach> nhandler, that sounds like good targets of opportunity to me - it's just that it needs a bit of good documentation so people know what to do about those patches
[14:07] <nigelb> +1 :)
[14:08] <nhandler> dholbach: Agreed. I actually brought that up in my last phone call with Matt. We want to make it easy for new contributors to help out with a large number of items on the list (by making the tasks very repetitive and clearly documented) and then acknowledge folks for the work they do
[14:08] <dholbach> awesome
[14:08] <dholbach> sounds like a great idea to me
[14:09] <nhandler> Do you by any chance have a link to the page that talked about what info I would need to make available for harvest to use it?
[14:23] <dholbach> sure
[14:23] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=838
[14:23] <dholbach> nhandler, ^
[14:27] <nhandler> dholbach: Thanks a lot. What happens to harvest if a source package is in Debian but not Ubuntu?
[14:28] <dholbach> nhandler, Harvest doesn't know anything about these kinds of things
[14:28] <dholbach> it just adds a source package as it seems to exist somewhere
[14:30] <nhandler> dholbach: Alright.  It even has a web interface :)
[15:00] <jono> :-)
[15:00] <jono> hey kim0
[15:01] <jono> kim0, yah, had a call, but it was canceled :-/
[15:01] <kim0> jono: oh enjoy your coffee then
[15:01] <jono> -)
[15:01] <jono> :-)
[15:01] <kim0> :)
[15:33] <czajkowski> Aloha
[16:01] <jcastro> mhall119: thanks for your help with that drupal theme stuff. <3
[16:01] <mhall119> jcastro: np
[16:04] <cjohnston> jcastro: you back home?
[16:04] <jcastro> yeah
[16:04] <cjohnston> find somethin?
[16:05] <cjohnston> somewhere.. to live.. whatever
[16:05] <jcastro> yeah
[16:05] <jcastro> found an apartment in boca
[16:05] <cjohnston> sweet
[16:05] <jcastro> man, that place is like a stereotype come to life
[16:05] <cjohnston> the northern older crowd?
[16:06] <jcastro> yeah
[16:06] <cjohnston> hehe
[16:06] <jcastro> still, it's nice, I don't know why I ever lived in michigan, really
[16:06] <cjohnston> i watched a commedian last night who said that once you go past gainsville, your back in michigan
[16:07] <mhall119> lol
[16:07] <mhall119> anything north of gainesville is Georgia
[16:07] <cjohnston> he said its northern florida.. which talks a little different than ga
[16:08] <mhall119> saw a funny online video where the said "Florida: where the further north you go, the more southern you get"
[16:08] <cjohnston> true
[16:09] <cjohnston> works the opposite.. further south you go, the more northern you get... until you get to that point that's not the US.. drive through there and your back to the us for a long trip down one road
[16:11] <mhall119> yeah, at some point on I-95 you get to Cuba
[16:13] <jcastro> oh hey wow, the burndown isn't a disaster
[16:13] <jcastro> we're off to a good start
[16:13] <mhall119> cjohnston: did you see that I made you some icons?
[16:13] <cjohnston> no
[16:13] <cjohnston> for
[16:15] <mhall119> cjohnston: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/icons/icons_preview.html
[16:15] <mhall119> doctormo make a nicer milestone one for me
[16:16] <mhall119> my original looked like a grave marker
[16:16] <mhall119> cjohnston: there's also a branch on ubuntu-communtiy-webthemes for all these icons
[16:16] <cjohnston> i think i can use one of em
[16:16] <cjohnston> cool
[16:16] <mhall119> just one?
[16:16] <mhall119> I made you 4
[16:17] <cjohnston> ill have to look
[16:17] <mhall119> :P
[16:17] <cjohnston> too dang busy
[16:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: diddums :p
[16:19] <cjohnston> you wanna do my homework for me czajkowski ?
[16:24] <mhall119> all the answers will be in Irish
[16:32] <doctormo> mhall119: Technically 5 of those icons are mine ;-)
[16:32] <mhall119> doctormo: when did I say otherwise?
[16:32] <doctormo> mhall119: I think I corkscrew read what you said.
[16:33] <mhall119> and I think 6 of them are yours
[16:33] <mhall119> all 5 on the bottom + the new milesotne
[16:34] <doctormo> mhall119: You should add the copyright attribution information to the license page, otherwise it'd be CC-BY without saying who to attribute to.
[16:37] <mhall119> doctormo: yeah, I just quickly threw that up there
[16:37] <doctormo> I should have actually put in meta data into the svg files, my bad.
[16:37] <mhall119> there's a debian standard for defining license per-file
[16:40] <Technoviking> morning all, everyone have a fine weekend
[16:43] <doctormo> mhall119: There is also an svg standard meta data tag for license.
[16:44] <doctormo> Hey Technoviking :-) Fine but too hot here.
[16:44] <cjohnston> to hot.. ha
[16:45] <mhall119> doctormo: you're in Mass aren't you?
[16:48] <dpm> cjohnston, mhall119, I added some info on the developer.ubuntu.com blueprint about where the developer.ubuntu.com wordpress theme lives in case you want to have a look if it can be merged with the community WP themes. IIRC you were asking at the UDS session
[16:49] <cjohnston> I did see that
[16:49] <cjohnston> thats on my todo list.. Thanks for the heads up dpm
[16:49] <dpm> ok, cool
[16:51] <mhall119> thanks dpm
[17:07] <nigelb> jcastro: lol, edit on the classroom BP :)
[17:13] <nigelb> cjohnston: ^^ did you see that?
[17:14] <cjohnston> ?
[17:14] <nigelb> - [jorge] Ubuntu open week to ubuntu Camp: TODO
[17:14] <nigelb> + [jorge] Ubuntu open week to ubuntu Camp (Jono executive decision to just leave it, new name sucks too): DEFERRED
[17:14] <cjohnston> ya
[17:14] <nigelb> after all the discussion :P
[17:15] <cjohnston> boo hiss.. whatever
[17:15] <czajkowski> dholbach: did you find a date for UGJ
[17:15] <dholbach> czajkowski, no - there was no discussion about it yet
[17:55] <JFo> nhandler, who is Bacta?
[17:55] <JFo> <-curious
[18:02] <dholbach> alright my friends
[18:03] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow
[18:21] <nigelb> JFo: \o/
[18:21] <nigelb> JFo: Birthday Boi!
[18:26] <JFo> nigelb, :)
[18:28] <nigelb> JFo: :D
[20:11] <jcastro> jono: quick call today?
[20:11] <jcastro> I have an issue
[20:17] <jono> jcastro, can we chat when I am done with lunch?
[20:18] <jcastro> sure, anytime today is fine
[20:18] <jcastro> I'm around for about another 2 hours
[20:24]  * scott-work wonders what jono, jcastro, et al will do when microsoft kills skype for linux :P
[20:24] <jcastro> heh, I have gtalk
[20:54] <jono> jcastro, all set?
[20:54] <jcastro> jono:  one sec!
[20:54] <jcastro> jono: ok all set!
[21:02] <jcastro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2011-May/011914.html
[23:20] <czajkowski> evening folks


[05:03] <nos09> how to check if backend is running? if not how do i start it? frontend complains its not running.
[05:04] <nos09> !help how to check if backend is running? if not how do i start it? frontend complains its not running.
[05:04] <Zinn> !help how to check if backend is running? if not how do i start it? frontend complains its not running. For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].


[19:27] <coconut> we have a user Hash who is not social with it's opinion in #ubuntu , can someone take a look?
[19:37] <krytarik> Yeah, I just did, and it's the typical Hash straying around the borders and currently he seems to be within again while the op he raged up against previously didn't feel like taking an action at the time, so this opportunity is gone again for now.
[19:37] <tomreyn> coconut: IMO it's not requiring an immediate operator action, but i'm having a look occasionally. please point it out if there's a repeat offense, though
[19:38] <coconut> ok, thanks tomreyn, i will do that :)
[19:38] <tomreyn> thanks, coconut.
[19:38] <tomreyn> and thanks krytarik, too.
[19:39] <krytarik> Of course.