[02:39] <ailean> I have a wiki loaded on my computer and I want to make it start serving automatically (and in the background) each time I log on.  The command is python ~/moin-desktop/moin.py and I typed that into the "Additional Startup Programs" section of the Sessions app.  But it doesn't load it.  What am I doing wrong?
[02:39] <compengi> Hobbsee, when i installed it again it didn't install the other files that it had removed
[02:40] <Hobbsee> compengi: no, it wouldnt.  you'll need to install ubuntu desktop again.  i can explain it if you want
[02:40] <Tompu> ailean: you could try the full path, /home/ailean/moin-desktop/moin.py or prefixing with python
[02:40] <compengi> Hobbsee, yes please
[02:40] <ailean> Tompu, I did prefix with python.  But, the point is that the command works in the terminal, so surely it should work there, no?
[02:40] <Tompu> Hobbsee: is ubuntu-desktop a metapackage?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Tompu: yep
[02:41] <compengi> Hobbsee, it had finished
[02:42] <pokeypapaw> Goodmorning,  would anyone know how I would view the kernel documentation?
[02:42] <compengi> Hobbsee, yeah and the add/remove returned :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> compengi: ubuntu, and other metapackages is kind of like a kiddy brick tower.  or that "pick up sticks" game, i think.  removing a lib like libgtkhtml-2.0 is like removing the bottom brick - expect all the stuff on top to need to be removed as well.  yet, when you only add the bottom brick again, it doesnt add the top bricks.  and ubuntu-desktop is the top brick of all.
[02:42] <Hobbsee> (unless you use aptitude, but that handles differently)
[02:43] <Hobbsee> worse, often
[02:43] <c_lisp> whats a good movie converter?
[02:43] <Tompu> c_lisp: vlc or mencoder
[02:43] <compengi> Hobbsee, wow i see :)
[02:43] <Tompu> c_lisp: mencoder is part of mplayer
[02:43] <Hobbsee> compengi: :)
[02:43] <kihai> Could anyone here help me on this? I did the update to edgy with update-manager -c and now there are some packages which can't be reconfigured (acpid, acpi-support, edubuntu-desktop) and the kernel installed is still the dapper kernel. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[02:43] <datil> is there support for Intel RAID (ICH8R controller) in 6.10? or just the SATA controller is supported and not the raid
[02:43] <compengi> Hobbsee, but nothing important had happened :)
[02:43] <Tompu> c_lisp: is this to convert your istanbul output?
[02:43] <c_lisp> yea
[02:43] <Hobbsee> compengi: hmmm?
[02:44] <c_lisp> from the .ogg I read the man
[02:44] <c_lisp> didn't see how to change it
[02:44] <c_lisp> say by default its .ogg but doesn't show how to change it lol
[02:45] <compengi> Hobbsee, btw do you know a command trick that will install all the files needed to be able to use a program or compile it?
[02:45] <dcraven> ogg is good.
[02:45] <gnomefreak> compengi: build-essential and if the app you want to compile is in the repos you can use sudo apt-get build-dep package
[02:46] <pokeypapaw> Hello can any here see what I am typing
[02:46] <Tompu> pokeypapaw: hai.
[02:46] <dcraven> no
[02:46] <gnomefreak> pokeypapaw: no
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:47] <pokeypapaw> ok well was wondering
[02:47] <compengi> gnomefreak, yeah i think it's in repos cause it's a new version of evolution (mail program)
[02:47] <pokeypapaw> hadn't much luck getting a question answered
[02:47] <gnomefreak> compengi: than build-dep command will install all depends for the app
[02:47] <esp> so many people ...
[02:48] <dcordes> where can i find a piece of code which allows me to convert bin images to iso images?
[02:48] <esp> anybody here?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> compengi: problem your gonna have is libc6
[02:48] <Tompu> c_lisp: just out of interest, does the Close button in the 'About' section of istanbul work for you?
[02:48] <Hobbsee> !b-e > compengi
[02:48] <gnomefreak> compengi: thats about the biggest issue you may run into
[02:49] <c_lisp> yep
[02:49] <esp> anybody play warcraft III ??
[02:49] <c_lisp> got to go to work bbl
[02:49] <Tompu> that's strange. i have a few apps where the close button of the About dialog does nothing
[02:49] <gnomefreak> compengi: your not gonna want to build that in your nomral users enviornment
[02:49] <WikinG> HI! I have problem (?) when i try delete something from MMC with "shift + del" it marks as "read only" and afther that i can't make any changes in card. how to makes now card non-read-only???
[02:49] <cartucho> morning
[02:50] <gnomefreak> unless your on edgy
[02:50] <jiger> hi does anyone know how to verfy if I am running upstart or init?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> jiger: are you on edgy?
[02:50] <jiger> yea
[02:50] <gnomefreak> upstart with some init things
[02:51] <gnomefreak> jiger: for now /etc/init.d/commands will still work
[02:51] <jiger> thing is I am not getting any boot improvements and I want to ensure I am running via upstart
[02:51] <iwaterball> jiger: I suppose ps is your fried, didn't look into this myself yet...
[02:51] <gnomefreak> jiger: apt-cache policy upstart
[02:51] <gnomefreak> jiger: if it says its installed you are using it to boot
[02:52] <jiger> gnomefreak: ya but can I verify if it is loading. I tried ps process 1 is init
[02:52] <tRSS> is there a software that would monitor the traffic generated from my ubuntu machine?
[02:52] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:52] <netpython> nagios
[02:53] <gnomefreak> jiger: you can see if taking splash and quiet out of the kernel args. in /boot/grub/menu.lst and reboot should show you everything it does
[02:53] <delight> every so often when i log out ... my system freezes .. got an ati with fglxr ... using gdm as a Desktop-manager
[02:53] <delight> this was happening with dapper too ... now on edgy seems to be more often
[02:53] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:53] <delight> does sombody got similiar problems ?
[02:53] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:53] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:53] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:53] <esp> is there anyone play Warcraft III ???
[02:53] <gnomefreak> esp: stop repeating please
[02:53] <esp> ok
[02:53] <gnomefreak> esp: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:53] <dcraven> esp, No. Nobody plays it ffs.
[02:54] <esp> faint
[02:54] <dcraven> :)
[02:54] <jiger> gnomefreak: any other way. BTW I did an upgrade from dapper to edgy if it matters
[02:55] <jiger> gnomefreak: wonder why process 1 is init
[02:55] <gnomefreak> jiger: im sure there is but that is easiest i can think of off hand
[02:55] <esp> gnomefreak:i have some fonts problem
[02:56] <|aSa|> Hi all
[02:57] <selutha> can the ubuntu live cd mount a ntfs drive with right permtions?
[02:57] <selutha> wright*
[02:57] <esp> simplied chinese fonts problem
[02:57] <|aSa|> Are there known problems with booting 6.10 32/64 bit install CD's on computers with SATA disks?
[02:57] <selutha> I need to delete some files from an nt drive w/o using windows
[02:58] <buti> hi.
[02:58] <WikinG> HI! I have problem (?) when i try delete something from MMC with "shift + del" it marks as "read only" and afther that i can't make any changes in card. how to makes now card non-read-only???
[02:58] <buti> anyone into kernel building can help me? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild seems outdated
[02:58] <esp> WikinG:plz use the chmod command
[02:59] <soundray> selutha: you can mount NTFS read/write using fuse, but I don't know if it'll work from the live CD. Try it out:
[02:59] <soundray> !fuse | selutha
[02:59] <ubotu> selutha: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:59] <buti> building a kernel takes ages. and the resulting header packages seem to be incomplete
[02:59] <WikinG> esp it does not work, sudo doesn't help too
[02:59] <selutha> soundray: cool thanks..
[02:59] <Tompu> WikinG: do other delete methods work?
[02:59] <|aSa|> I can't find in Google information about such problems, but i also don't have even single successful attempt to boot Eddgy on a computer with SATA.
[03:00] <ZorbaTHut> Edgy Server didn't work on my system, but curiously it seems to have been a glitch with only the server kernel. replacing it with the default kernel made it work
[03:01] <soundray> buti: how long does it take, and how long do you expect it to take?
[03:01] <WikinG> tompu, now i can't delete in any method.
[03:01] <esp> 1234
[03:01] <|aSa|> I tried to install it on 7 different computers with Promise, nVidia and Intel SATA controlers and both 32 and 64 bit disks hang after booting the kernel.
[03:01] <buti> soundray: well, i expected it to take no longer than "make" in a stock kernel.
[03:01] <zordid> which config file do I edit in ubuntu to load a module when the system boot?
[03:01] <ANaRcHiC> can some name a shell text editor plz?
[03:02] <ZorbaTHut> anarchic, emacs, vim, nano
[03:02] <buti> soundray: but it seems to do everything a few times.
[03:02] <|aSa|> Is 6.10 supposed to support SATA disks?
[03:02] <buti> soundray: also i'
[03:02] <compudaze> shell text editor?
[03:02] <soundray> zordid: /etc/modules
[03:02] <compudaze> u want to change your shell?
[03:02] <ANaRcHiC> nano and vim come with ubuntu?
[03:02] <ZorbaTHut> nano tends to exist on most systems, is very simple to use, and doesn't do much useful
[03:02] <Balachmar> I have two systems running Ubuntu, one is edgy and the other is dapper. I have installed beagle on both machines using Automatix.On one machine (dapper) the search is automatically updated if I create a new file, or edit a file which meets the criteria.On the other machine (edgy) it doesn't. On the edgy machine I already have activated user_xattr.But that doesn't help. Also on the dapper machine user_xattr isn't even enabled in the mtab or fst
[03:02] <Balachmar> ab.The edgy is running the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel and the dapper machine is running the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel.So what can I do to fix this? Because I want the search to be automatically updated!
[03:02] <ANaRcHiC> cuz emacs doesnt
[03:02] <buti> soundray: also i'm not sure about thos "flavours". do they still exist?
[03:02] <soundray> |aSa|: yes, but some chipsets are troublesome
[03:02] <ZorbaTHut> emacs and vim are both more powerful but much trickier to get used to, and often aren't packaged in default installs
[03:02] <compudaze> vim-tiny is installed as well as nano
[03:03] <ANaRcHiC> ok, i;ll try nano, thanks
[03:03] <compudaze> nano being easier to use
[03:03] <ZorbaTHut> all of those have apt packages
[03:03] <compudaze> u can install whatever u want though
[03:03] <ZorbaTHut> nano's perfectly capable if you're not trying to write code or something :)
[03:03] <Tompu> Balachmar: why did you use automatix to install beagle on edgy?
[03:03] <|aSa|> soundray: It failed with nForce 2, i945, i915.
[03:03] <buti> soundray: i've added some lines to drivers/ide/ide.c, now resume from suspend to ram works 100 % on my laptop
[03:03] <soundray> Balachmar: don't use automatix. It makes it next to impossible to give you support here.
[03:04] <zordid> soundray: should i just add the line wdreg windrvr6, if i want to load the windrvr6 module with the script wdreg?
[03:04] <buti> soundray: but building and installting the kernel and its includes is really a pain (compared to e.g. gentoo)
[03:04] <soundray> zordid: no, you can only add a module name there. Scripts won't work.
[03:04] <selutha> soundray: thanks for the link, cant do it with the live but it pointed me to where i could thanks for the help
[03:05] <zordid> soundray: then where should i edit if i want to load the module with a script?
[03:05] <soundray> buti: well, unlike gentoo, recompiling the kernel isn't really part of the plan in ubuntu.
[03:05] <soundray> zordid: /etc/rc.local
[03:06] <buti> soundray: you're right on that one.
[03:06] <|aSa|> sundari: Inever heard of other distro to have problems with them. And if i install in after disabling the controller and then use clean kernel from kernel.org everything works fine :(
[03:06] <Dimensions> hi .. where does ubuntu saves mysql database files ... ?
[03:06] <compudaze> /var/lib/mysql
[03:06] <constrictor> yes Dimensions
[03:07] <iwaterball> soundray, buti : there is the kernel-helper package that makes it rather easy
[03:07] <soundray> |aSa|: I'm surprised they give you trouble. Describe your problem in precise terms and post errors on the pastebin. Maybe someone here will know how to help you.
[03:07] <kihai> Could anyone here help me on this? I did the update to edgy with update-manager -c and now there are some packages which can't be reconfigured (acpid, acpi-support, edubuntu-desktop) and the kernel installed is still the dapper kernel. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[03:07] <buti> iwaterball: interesting...
[03:08] <buti> iwaterball: but isn't this what i'm using anyways? i tried to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:08] <compudaze> kernel-helper??
[03:08] <buti> iwaterball: which is outdated, it seems
[03:08] <compudaze> there's kernel-package
[03:08] <gnomefreak> kihai: does sudo dpkg --configure -a  work?
[03:08] <compudaze> which is very nice
[03:08] <constrictor> i think the extra parameters to update-manager will be update-manager -c -d
[03:08] <constrictor> kihai
[03:08] <gnomefreak> constrictor: no -d
[03:09] <constrictor> right yeah that was for beta upgrade my bad gnomefreak
[03:09] <Dimensions> thanks compudaze
[03:09] <kihai> gnomefreak: Nope. It ends with an error about the unconfigured packages acpid, acpi-support and edubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <buti> compudaze: is it any better than "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs flavours=386"
[03:10] <vpol> hi all. can anybody tell why ubuntu-6.10-alternate uses lilo by default?
[03:10] <compudaze> just make-kpkg kernel_image
[03:10] <gnomefreak> vpol: it uses grub
[03:10] <iwaterball> buti: I donno, I seem to remember kernel-package had you use something like "make-kpkg", I can't find it in that wiki
[03:10] <compudaze> there are many options if needed though
[03:10] <gnomefreak> kihai: try to install them manually
[03:11] <compudaze> vpol, it used grub by default for me
[03:11] <vpol> gnomefreak: it uses lilo. i have fresh installed system in front of me. it used lilo.
[03:11] <buti> compudaze, iwaterball: i'll try it
[03:11] <gnomefreak> vpol: it does not use lilo
[03:11] <iwaterball> buti: try seing if there is a READM in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package (if you have the package installed)
[03:11] <iwaterball> buti: I.e. README
[03:11] <gnomefreak> vpol: by default it uses grub if you use OEM it might use lilo but default install uses grub
[03:12] <buti> yes, ok
[03:12] <|aSa|> soundray: There are no errors at all. It just reaches the end of the kernel messages and does not start anything from the initrd. I have no idea how to debug this.
[03:12] <vpol> gnomefreak: actually i belive you, but also i belive my eyes. i haven't used OEM installation, used text-mode (default). and it installed lilo. even without a menu.
[03:12] <gnomefreak> vpol: what makes you think its using lilo?
[03:13] <compudaze> what are you installing onto?
[03:13] <soundray> |aSa|: why do you conclude, then, that the problem is with SATA?
[03:13] <sales> HALLO
[03:13] <gnomefreak> vpol: is ubuntu the only linux distro you have installed?
[03:13] <BeanBag> has anyone here bought the official ubuntu book yet?
[03:13] <sales> I SAID HALLO
[03:13] <gnomefreak> BeanBag: yes and that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <sales> KGKDFKG;S
[03:13] <sales> ;LDFG;;
[03:13] <vpol> gnomefreak: it doesn't have grub installed. it has lilo.conf.
[03:13] <sales> DFKG;LDF;L
[03:13] <sales> LDFGK;LDFKS
[03:13] <sales> LDFKG;LDFK
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> gnomefreak, pls do something
[03:13] <vpol> gnomefreak: i'm using linux for 8 years ;)
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> oh done :P
[03:14] <BeanBag> gnomefreak: sorry about that one... thanks
[03:14] <soundray> vpol: what's the problem then?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> vpol: do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[03:14] <vpol> gnomefreak: the actual qwestion wasn't like "help me installing grub", it was "WHY?" :)
[03:14] <vpol> gnomefreak: no. no /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:14] <|aSa|> soundray: Because it hapens only on computers with SATA controllers, because it hapend on all computers with SATA controllers i managed to find and because if i disable the SATA controller from the BIOS it boots.
[03:15] <soundray> vpol: wrong channel, then. This one is for support.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> soundray: its ok
[03:16] <gnomefreak> vpol: ubuntu installer under default install should not have installed lilo at all since lilo isnt used by ubuntu by default EVER
[03:16] <soundray> |aSa|: maybe your device names change when you enable SATA.
[03:16] <mc__> sorry for advertising,but you guys should really have a look at http://www.fon.com ,the company gives you a free wlan-router if you agree to share it,it really works,i have tried it already
[03:16] <crom> hey guys. Can anyone pass me a pointer on adding files to /bin/ directories and/or adding to $PATH ?
[03:16] <vpol> gnomefreak: i understand it. may it rechoose lilo if i've reconfigured LVM to be a default boot system (e.g. even /boot, / are in LVM)
[03:16] <gnomefreak> vpol: you didnt install lilo after install did you?
[03:16] <mc__> but after the 8. november the router wont be free anymore
[03:16] <clast> does anyone have problem with gaim (icq) file transfers in edgy that didn't happen in dapper with the same gaim version?
[03:16] <vpol> gnomefreak: sure not.
[03:17] <geokok> Is it possible to create a network between win and ubuntu machine if both are attached to a dsl modem? One machine is on USB and the other on ethernet.
[03:17] <soundray> crom: you should install local programs to /usr/local/bin . To edit your path, modify $HOME/.bashrc
[03:17] <netpython> crom, http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/unix/upt/ch08_07.htm
[03:17] <constrictor> is ln -s [source]  [destination]  or is it [destination]  [source] ?
[03:17] <Tompu> geokok: probably :)
[03:17] <Tompu> geokok: depends on the modem
[03:17] <|aSa|> soundray: They can't. SATA devices are /dev/sd[a-z]  and ATA are /dev/hd[a-z] . None of the computers had SCSI controller.
[03:17] <gnomefreak> constrictor: source des.
[03:17] <Cyberai> I have a strange situation that happened after upgrading fro dapper to edgy. Upgrade went fine, but I had to reboot into alower kernel for a moment to use a kernel module. Upon reboot I found I no longer have anything in /boot except the /grub folder. There is no menu.lst in /boot/grub either, yet there is a grub menu when I reboot. Since I commented out my edgy kernels (stupid I know) they do not show up in the menu. can anyone tell me how to return to my e
[03:17] <Cyberai> dgy kernel setup?
[03:18] <crom> cheers you two. much appreciated *tips hat*
[03:18] <constrictor> thanks
[03:18] <geokok> .....Tompu any howto's?
[03:18] <iwaterball> constrictor: think of it like "cp"
[03:18] <soundray> constrictor: it's ln -s [target]  [link]  . man ln
[03:18] <geokok> Alcatel speedtouch 530 v6
[03:18] <Tompu> Cyberai: make sure /boot is being mounted properly. try manually mounting it
[03:18] <netpython> PATH=$HOME/xxx/alpha-test:$PATH    export PATH
[03:19] <Tompu> geokok: do you have both computers connected to the modem now?
[03:19] <geokok> yes
[03:19] <gnomefreak> constrictor: example ln -s ~/.irssi/scripts/scriptname ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun
[03:19] <geokok> one is through USB (win) and the other ethernet (ubuntu)
[03:20] <geokok> both on static ip's
[03:20] <gnomefreak> vpol: i dont know how you got lilo but i would file a bug on that so it can be looked into (this is very important)
[03:20] <Cyberai> Tompu, at what device would I typically find /boot?
[03:20] <constrictor> thanks guys
[03:21] <gnomefreak> vpol: would also attach your lilo conf to it
[03:21] <Cyberai> Tompu, I guess I'm asking what device I should manout to /boot
[03:21] <vpol> gnomefreak: ok. can you give me a link on launchpad than? i'l append lilo.conf and some other comments.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> !bugs
[03:21] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:22] <Tompu> Cyberai: well, usually it's /dev/hda1
[03:22] <Tompu> Cyberai: but that's by no means a universal rule
[03:22] <vpol> gnomefreak: ok. i'm doing fresh installation. (i'm sure i'll get lilo once again).
[03:23] <Cyberai> Tompu, thanks
[03:23] <Cyberai> Tompu, I'll look at the fstab for indication
[03:23] <Tompu> Cyberai: good idea ;)
[03:23] <Tompu> Cyberai: but you can also just try sudo mount /boot
[03:23] <Tompu> Cyberai: you might get some useful output
[03:23] <Cyberai> Tompu, true true
[03:23] <vpol> gnomefreak: does ubuntu saves installation log? i mean options i've selected? like anaconda in redhat.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> vpol: you should find it in /var/log if there is any
[03:24] <geokok> Tompu:......any tips?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> vpol: if you find one for installation please attach it to the bug also
[03:24] <Arrick> morning gnomefreak
[03:24] <Arrick> long time no see
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Arrick: hello
[03:24] <vpol> gnomefreak: sure. that's why i'm looking for it ;)
[03:24] <rsteele> sup
[03:24] <k1piee> Hi
[03:25] <Arrick> nope
[03:26] <Tompu> geokok have you got the two computers plugged into the modem?
[03:27] <geokok> yes both plugged and working
[03:27] <vpol> gnomefreak: btw. may be you can help. i've tryed to get nvidia binary drivers working "out of the box" (with default restriced modules and so on) and failed. anybody knows when that group of packages would be updated?
[03:27] <linux01> hello
[03:27] <Tompu> geokok: check their ip addresses
[03:27] <geokok> i got them
[03:27] <Tompu> geokok: are they different?
[03:28] <geokok> win can ping ubuntu but not vice versa
[03:28] <geokok> they are static set by me
[03:28] <Tompu> geokok: which is on usb?
[03:28] <geokok> windows machine
[03:28] <scheuri> geokok: windows XP SP2?
[03:28] <geokok> yes
[03:28] <gnomefreak> vpol: to use the binary drivers you need to let the installer build its own l-r-m first remove ubuntu's version than let nvidias installer build its own
[03:28] <scheuri> geokok: firewall on?
[03:28] <geokok> zone alarm
[03:28] <gnomefreak> !nvidia-beta | vpol
[03:28] <ubotu> vpol: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[03:28] <gnomefreak> or that way :)
[03:28] <scheuri> geokok: that will probably block the IP...
[03:29] <scheuri> geokok: turn it off and try again
[03:29] <vpol> gnomefreak: yeah. looked for second way ;) thnx.
[03:29] <geokok> .....hm wouldnt that be dangerous for a windows machine?
[03:29] <netpython> yep
[03:30] <Tompu> geokok: you'll be okay for a few minutes
[03:30] <doccy> why cant i apt-get install libqt3-dev? has this package been obsoleted?
[03:30] <Tompu> geokok: the alternative is to go into the zone-alarm set up and add the ubuntu box IP to the allowed range
[03:30] <variant> Tompu: on average an unprotected winxp machine lasted 16 minnits in some test i heard about :)
[03:30] <netpython> more likely
[03:30] <Tompu> geokok: or whatever zone-alarm calls it. trusted range, perhaps
[03:30] <scheuri> geokok: yes, of course...but AFAIK the firewalls will block the ping...and I am not talking about turning it off for ever...just for the test to make sure if its the firewall or not
[03:31] <compudaze> i dont see a qt3-dev
[03:31] <compudaze> theres libqt3-headers
[03:31] <Tompu> variant: even behind NAT?
[03:31] <compudaze> and qt4-dev
[03:31] <variant> Tompu: no
[03:31] <soundray> doccy: try libqt3-mt-dev
[03:31] <geokok> ok I turned it off and the ping got through
[03:31] <doccy> what does the mt stand for?
[03:31] <compudaze> threaded
[03:31] <soundray> doccy: threaded, I think
[03:31] <scheuri> geokok: now you can turn it on again...and there you go..it worked...:)
[03:32] <netpython> !nmap
[03:32] <geokok> ok...so I add the ubuntu ip to zone alarm.....and then what? how do I actually share teh files?
[03:32] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[03:33] <Tompu> geokok: first thing is to see if you can now ping
[03:33] <ailean> gnomefreak, what is the difference between the beta nvidia drivers and the ones i installed on dapper?
[03:33] <variant> geokok: you know you will have to go via theinternet which is slow, it wont be like a lan..
[03:33] <variant> ailean: bugs probably
[03:33] <Tompu> geokok: sorry missed your message
[03:33] <tabias> is there any certain reason I can not install keytouch anymore? If there is a reason, what is an alternative to keytouch?
[03:34] <oyeT> !themes
[03:34] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:34] <ailean> variant, the beta driver hasn't given me any bugs and it's definitely better than the crap that was there before.  you just need to play a video to see it without the diagonal line across the middle...
[03:34] <Tompu> geokok: check Places/Network Servers
[03:34] <geokok> np..ok i opened the firewall.....
[03:34] <oyeT> !changethemes
[03:34] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:34] <soundray> !keytouch | tabias
[03:34] <ubotu> tabias: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ailean: the beta drivers allow you to run beryl or aiglx
[03:35] <oyeT> where can i search for themes on gnome ?
[03:35] <tabias> that is the problem, keytouch makes a broken install
[03:35] <netpython> sigh
[03:35] <ailean> gnomefreak, but i installed drivers last year from nvidia's site that allowed me to install compiz
[03:35] <oyeT> what categorie i select for gnome ?
[03:35] <Tompu> oyeT: art.gnome.org
[03:35] <soundray> tabias: oops, that pointer isn't quite right -- there should be a keytouch package...
[03:35] <soundray> tabias: how does it break?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> ailean: compiz is not aiglx nor beryl
[03:35] <tabias> dunno exactly, it is saying it has done a broken install
[03:36] <geokok> Tompu: ok...but its empty
[03:36] <oyeT> Tompu: that link isn't available
[03:36] <ailean> gnomefreak, but beryl is a fork of compiz, is it not?
[03:36] <soundray> tabias: run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and put the output on pastebin
[03:36] <tabias> k
[03:36] <Squeee> !beryl
[03:36] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ailean: it is. but its not the same. please see #ubuntu-xgl for more info on it
[03:36] <coz_> ailean, it is indeed
[03:36] <Tompu> oyeT: http://art.gnome.org/ works fine
[03:36] <geokok> variant: I know about slow. What would u suggest (cheap please.)?
[03:36] <ailean> gnomefreak, didn't know that channel existed. apologies
[03:36] <X-Ception2> Does anyone here use a Belkin router and have configured it for port forwarding? I need some help on how-to do this.
[03:36] <oyeT> Tompu: oh without www
[03:36] <buti> compudaze: make-kpkg kernel_headers stops with dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1 not in control info
[03:37] <Tompu> geokok: whats empty? Windows Network?
[03:37] <tabias> soundray:  tnx for the advice, it seems adept did a wrong isntall screwing all. Just uninstalled it and now it is working. Thanks anyway
[03:37] <geokok> yes
[03:37] <Tompu> geokok: does the windows machine have file sharing enabled?
[03:37] <geokok> I try to add a new network place but once I choose ubuntu " ok "is greyed out
[03:38] <tabias> next problem is my volume wheel isn't working nor keytouch can fix it nor me.
[03:38] <geokok> ...hm how do I chech that? do I have to do the same to ubuntu as well?
[03:38] <Tompu> geokok: also, the windows network only advertises itself every few minutes i think
[03:38] <Tompu> geokok: should be enabled by default in ubuntu (at least in edgy)
[03:38] <Tompu> geokok: but for windows, you need to go to control panel, network
[03:38] <geokok> I see the mshome network but cant access it
[03:38] <Tompu> geokok: but i haven't really used windows for some considerable time
[03:39] <geokok> lucky u....
[03:39] <netpython> geokok, is zonealarm configured by default to allow windows file-sharing?
[03:39] <Tompu> geokok: that's good. refresh the window a couple of times
[03:39] <Jenyo> I am new to this whole linux thing...what software can you run on it ?
[03:39] <geokok> think so.....
[03:39] <vpol> gnomefreak: also i'm sure you have heard that gnome-vfs doesn't allow to play music from windows shares. when would it be fixed?
[03:39] <X-Ception2> Does anyone here use a Belkin router and have configured it for port forwarding? I need some help on how-to do this.
[03:39] <netpython> geokok, you might check the firewall log
[03:39] <gnomefreak> vpol: dont know didnt know it was an issue.
[03:39] <Tompu> Jenyo: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Jenyo> thanks
[03:40] <geokok> netpython: what am I looking for there\?
[03:40] <kyja> is there a way to have alsa do multiple threaded instances?? if I have firefox open and streaming music and I open a movie on my desktop firefox will crash and I will have no sound for anything until I end the frozen firefox session and restart the movie viewer. this is only telling me something realy is not right. it should be able to handle and play many sounds together I would think.
[03:40] <gnomefreak> kyja: are you on edgy?
[03:40] <kyja> yes gnomefreak
[03:40] <gnomefreak> kyja: edgy should do it by default
[03:40] <Tompu> kyja: sounds like OSS issue?
[03:40] <geokok> I see some logs that have the ubuntu machine ip
[03:40] <kyja> HMM K
[03:41] <paitart> ne1 here from manila, philippines?
[03:41] <geokok> all blocked...??
[03:41] <gnomefreak> paitart: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[03:41] <soundray> vpol: rhythmbox will play from Windows shares. The program has to be vfs-aware, otherwise you will have to do a regular mount
[03:42] <netpython> geokok, if anything got blocked :-)
[03:42] <datil> is the pf firewall available in Ubuntu? or any gui for freebsd's ipfw?
[03:42] <Tompu> !ph | paitart
[03:42] <ubotu> paitart: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[03:42] <geokok> netpython: everything.......maybe i should open ip range instead of ip adddress in zone alarm?
[03:42] <Jenyo> i am so confused
[03:42] <tabias> is there anyone with a G5 (logitech) mouse that can tell me how I can bind the tilt buttons to another 'function' (like middle mousebutton)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> datil: firestarter is a GUI to IPtables
[03:43] <Tompu> Jenyo: are you after something in particular? or just general information
[03:43] <netpython> geokok, yes or maybe zonealarm has preconfigured settings
[03:43] <datil> gnomefreak, yeah i've seen that but there's just support for iptables in ubuntu?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> datil: im sure there are other firewall options. apt-cache search firewall    might help you
[03:44] <netpython> geokok, but in the log you ought to see the specific port that got blocked asweel
[03:44] <ss06r> hi, im having trouble installing zziplib to work with php4 under ubuntu
[03:44] <geokok> netpython: I see ubuntu's ip with various ports all blocked...how can i open them?
[03:44] <ss06r> well...less trouble more completely not understanding how one is supposed to set things like --with-zip=[-DIR]  in a package manager environment like ubuntu
[03:44] <ss06r> basically do i have to install php from source to set such an option?
[03:45] <netpython> geokok, zonealarm is blocking them i presume?
[03:45] <geokok> probably
[03:45] <Jenyo> tompu: i don't even know where to start ... I know i am tired of crashes on my computer... but i want to keep my existing abilities (i play warcraft, i write using dragon naturally speaking and an addon i got for word that formats my work in a form acceptable for submission for novels)
[03:45] <vpol> gnomefreak: ha-ha. i got why i have lilo by default. during installation i got in debug console: "[TIME]  grub-installer: /boot is a lvm volume (/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root), cannot install grub.
[03:45] <geokok> what should I open? Host/site, ip address. ip range, subnet???
[03:45] <Jenyo> tompu: I also trade on forex... but i don't know of any software that will let me do that on anything other than windows
[03:45] <gnomefreak> vpol: ah
[03:46] <Tompu> Jenyo: I don't think you'll be able to keep Dragon if you switch. there are alternatives, but they dont compare in my opinion
[03:46] <_3uG_> hi everyone.. is there any reason why df isn't showing /dev/hda? it's showing everything else...
[03:46] <Jenyo> tompu: and forex?
[03:46] <netpython> geokok, tcp/udp ubuntu ip port 445
[03:46] <weardlan> heh
[03:46] <weardlan> Jenyo
[03:46] <Jenyo> tompu: so no way for me to earn a living if I switch ??
[03:46] <gnomefreak> _3uG_: is hda ubuntu partition?
[03:46] <weardlan> CS: Primetrade: platform agnostic
[03:46] <geokok> netpython: ?what?...what should I do with that?
[03:47] <Jenyo> weardlan : pardon ?
[03:47] <_3uG_> gnomefreak, yes, it's mounted as /
[03:47] <_3uG_> gnomefreak, ext3 fs
[03:47] <weardlan> wana buy sel forex, use CS:primtrade,  is written in java
[03:47] <Tompu> Jenyo: I have only slight experience with voice recognition in linux
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dont know than
[03:47] <Tompu> Jenyo: I'm also English, and american voice recognition doesn't like my accent ;)
[03:48] <Jenyo> weardlan : ahh... can you get all your ema 200's, macd's , pivot points etc. with it ?
[03:48] <_3uG_> look into viavoice or xvoice
[03:48] <Jenyo> kk
[03:48] <netpython> geokok, you should open a port in your zonealarm in order for the ubuntu box to communicate with your windows box where apparantly zonealarm is installed,however you might know we can't possibly support non ubuntu issues :-)
[03:48] <weardlan> that's not forex trading that't tech trend anlysis
[03:48] <weardlan> they offer alternative platforms for that
[03:49] <Jenyo> weardlan : tech analysis is the basis for any intelligent trade imho
[03:49] <geokok> I have the free version ...no port settings. Main slidebar for trusted sites is set to allow sharing
[03:49] <geokok> and I can ping the win macine
[03:49] <weardlan> seperate function and form though
[03:49] <Tompu> geokok: did you try pressing reload on the network browser window?
[03:49] <livingdaylight> anyone know or hear about GNUSENSE?
[03:49] <netpython> geokok, have a look at http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/samba-quickstart.html
[03:49] <paolob-dirbasica> guys, asterisk has a problem in edgy: each time I reboot /var/run/asterisk's owner  is set to root:root, and asterisk can't start. Any hint?
[03:50] <Solidad> how to specifiy a ssl for each domain?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> livingdaylight: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:50] <geokok> Tombu: yes
[03:50] <eNons3nse> can someone recommend a firefox extension for 2.0 that will expand tab options.  tab mix plus isn't available for 2.0.  i'm getting tired of my search bar searches overwriting my tabs and such.
[03:50] <Tompu> geokok: and you still cant open it?
[03:50] <Jenyo> weardlan : ok...still very important...without it ...one may as well be blindfolded and throwing darts at a target 50 feet away.
[03:50] <geokok> no luck..maybe I have to do something to samba first?
[03:50] <Jenyo> weardlan : after being spun around a bit :)
[03:50] <Tompu> eNons3nse: you can install 'non-compatible' plugins. most will still work. others dont
[03:51] <_3uG_> The goal of gNewSense is to provide users with a software package that offers the stability of Ubuntu with the addition of freedom.
[03:51] <eNons3nse> Tompu: how?
[03:51] <weardlan> better trading strategy than most ;o)
[03:51] <Tompu> geokok: if you can see MSHOME, then your ubuntu box is probably working
[03:51] <_3uG_> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2006/11/how_entertainin.html
[03:51] <Jenyo> weardlan : ever read tom demark's work ?
[03:52] <eNons3nse> also, does anyone else have problems with youtube videos randomly freezing or getting static sounding audio?
[03:52] <geokok> I can see the pc but when I click on it it says " Cannot open. This is not a file"
[03:52] <netpython> eNons3nse, tabbrowser preferences
[03:53] <eNons3nse> thanks netpython
[03:53] <Tompu> eNons3nse: set extensions.checkCompatibility to false in about:config
[03:53] <soundray> Jenyo, weardlan: please ask yourself whether you're still on topic, and consider moving to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:53] <netpython> eNons3nse, np
[03:53] <weardlan> nope
[03:53] <eNons3nse> i used to use tabbrowser preferences in fact, before tab mix plus was available.  i'll check that out.
[03:53] <Jenyo> weardlan : new science of technical analysis... tom demark... good stuff :)
[03:53] <geokok> so one pc can see the other but they cant see any files in them.............
[03:53] <eNons3nse> I'll do that too Tompu
[03:54] <weardlan> hardly new: TD moving average is an age old stop loss stratgey in stock world
[03:54] <netpython> geokok, being able to ping is not enough:-)
[03:54] <vpol> gnomefreak: found a bug in LVM configuration :)
[03:54] <geokok> no luck even with zone alarm off
[03:55] <geokok> :(
[03:55] <_3uG_> so when is ubuntu going to have the non-exploitable nvidia drivers in the repository?
[03:55] <Tompu> netpython: even if zone alarm was blocking him, if he can see the MSHOME group, he should be able to see the computer that created that group. accessing it is another matter
[03:55] <eNons3nse> does anyone else have video problems with sites like youtube, google video, daily motion, etc...?  Like videos freezing or getting bad audio at random times.  also crashing the browser?  same story on firefox or epiphany.
[03:55] <netpython> Tompu, correct
[03:56] <oaudry> someone has any experience on dapper and dl360 G5 ?
[03:56] <Tompu> eNons3nse: are you talking only about flash video? and which version of flash are you using?
[03:56] <geokok> I thought it was piece of cake with samba but I have never networked 2 pc's before and its really hard
[03:56] <oaudry> I'have a problem with usb detection
[03:56] <tabias> can somone explain me how to install a bttv driver and tv (tuner) I had a list some weeks ago but the list isn't in my history anymore
[03:56] <eNons3nse> Tompu, well it mostly happens with flash video.  I put the Flash 9 upgrade in the .mozilla folder, but does that effect epiphany as well?
[03:57] <_3uG_> flash 9 does that to me sometimes.. it's a pain, but it's still beta
[03:57] <Tompu> eNons3nse: i haven't touched epiphany for a long time
[03:57] <cyzie> anybody with wireless laptop using hyperconnect technology?
[03:57] <skaos> oaudry: yes. it didn't work!
[03:57] <soundray> tabias: bttv cards should work "out of the box". Install xawtv to test.
[03:57] <tabias> k
[03:57] <eNons3nse> Tompu: the only reason i use it is when firefox crashes because of flash issues.  then it eventually crashes from flash too.
[03:58] <oaudry> skaos, mouarf
[03:58] <ss06r> can anyone tell me how modules like zziplib are supposed to be allowed for in ubuntu in php4?
[03:58] <oaudry> skaos, so, no solution :)
[03:58] <geokok> Guys..........any other ways to network the 2 pc's together?
[03:58] <ss06r> seeing as ubuntu doesnt do the whole ./configure --with-zziplib thing?
[03:58] <bezibaerchen> cyzie: what is hyperconnect technology?
[03:58] <buti> to kernel-building again... should i build falvuors=generic ?
[03:58] <eNons3nse> Once the browser crashes the first time I can sometimes re-open it, but it usually crashes again pretty easily, if it opens at all.  I have to restart my computer before it works right again.
[03:58] <gnomefreak> eNons3nse: remove the flash plugin and see if it still crashes. its well known that flash causes ff to crash
[03:58] <Tompu> eNons3nse: discovering which version of flash you're using in ephiphany is only a right-click away :)
[03:58] <skaos> oaudry: i took edgy...
[03:59] <cyzie> bezibaerchen, wireless for amd laptop cpu
[03:59] <alluc> on my system, each time I try to import a .svg image with fontforge, it returns: "Can't find libxml2." What can I do, how to know where it's looking for libxml2 which is installed, and works fine with inkscape ?
[03:59] <Tompu> geokok: buy a crossover cable
[03:59] <oaudry> skaos, ok thanks
[03:59] <geokok> and a second nic for the desktop?
[03:59] <eNons3nse> gnomefreak: that's kinda lame.  probably something they're working on though huh.
[03:59] <Tompu> geokok: thats one way of doing it, sure
[04:00] <bezibaerchen> cyzie: i c
[04:00] <Tompu> geokok: a cheap hub or router would be better imBo
[04:00] <gnomefreak> eNons3nse: yes its being worked on. eNons3nse remember flash is not open source so its kind of hard to fix it other than throwing a few patches at it
[04:00] <eNons3nse> yeah
[04:00] <geokok> modem -->hub -----pc's\||||???
[04:00] <eNons3nse> plus flash 9 is in beta
[04:01] <Tompu> geokok: im not sure what your |||'s represent, but yes :)
[04:01] <gnomefreak> eNons3nse: in theroy we should not have to deal with any flash issues but we do.
[04:01] <eNons3nse> any word on when the regular release will be?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> eNons3nse: 2007 sometime
[04:01] <skaos> oaudry: just a hint: the install of edgy hung at one point - after i killed the hanging process it continued without errors
[04:01] <cyzie> bezibaerchen, any idea ?
[04:01] <bezibaerchen> cyzie: no, got centrino
[04:02] <Tompu> eNons3nse: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[04:02] <geokok> ok......if I choose a nic however can u recommend any linux friendly brand?
[04:02] <brynk_> kom keif
[04:02] <eNons3nse> cool.  thanks Tompu & gnomefreak.
[04:02] <xukun> anybody knows something that can practice with that looks like the cisco's IOS ?
[04:02] <xukun> I,m trying to get my ccna
[04:02] <gnomefreak> !hardware | geokok
[04:02] <ubotu> geokok: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:03] <eNons3nse> well, Tompu all my browsers are crashed out so I'm gonna have to restart, but i'll check the link later.
[04:03] <soundray> ss06r: still here?
[04:03] <Tompu> xukun cisco has a (free?) network simulator. *tries to remember the name*
[04:03] <_3uG_> the intel pro 100 (or something like that) series seems to be well-supported
[04:03] <ss06r> soundray, sure am
[04:03] <Tompu> xukun: I think it's packet tracer
[04:03] <geokok> Tompu: are u sure hub goes to modem cause I thought hubs were connected to a pc that was connected to a modem
[04:03] <nolimitsoya> eNons3nse, use xkill to kill rampage programs
[04:03] <paitart__> ne1 from manila who's got an extra CD of 6.06 LTS?
[04:04] <SpComb> geokok: for 'normal' modems you can't plug them into switches, no
[04:04] <_3uG_> how do you kill a process that won't die with killall or kill -9?
[04:04] <eNons3nse> nolimitsoya: that will restart x?
[04:04] <nolimitsoya> geokok, if th
[04:04] <soundray> ss06r: there should be docs about how to integrate zziplib in /usr/share/doc/libzzip-0-12/
[04:04] <xukun> Tompu, thank you very much, I will try that
[04:04] <Tompu> SpComb: he has ethernet out on the modem
[04:04] <ss06r> soundray, cheers i'll have a look
[04:04] <nolimitsoya> geokok, if the modem has a dhcp server and nat capability you can share through a hub/switch
[04:04] <eNons3nse> nolimitsoya: is that the same as logging out and doing ctrl, alt, bkspce?
[04:04] <geokok> well I believe that mine is a very common one...so no i cant hub it
[04:04] <nolimitsoya> eNons3nse, no, that will kill the app you click on.
[04:05] <Tompu> geokok: you can do it. this is proven by your current setup
[04:05] <eNons3nse> nolimitsoya: that's not my problem.  but i'll remember that if i need it.
[04:05] <nolimitsoya> eNons3nse, if fex firefox is hung, open a terminal, type xkill, klick the browser window, restart firefox
[04:05] <geokok> I can? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,and have file sharing and internet sharing?
[04:05] <nolimitsoya> eNons3nse, ctrl+alt+backspace kills x
[04:05] <ss06r> soundray, there are no docs in that directory...just a couple chagelog gz
[04:06] <eNons3nse> nolimitsoya: usually if it's hung i can click close and it will give me a "program not responding" dialoge which will close it.
[04:06] <soundray> ss06r: how about /usr/share/doc/zziplib-bin/ ?
[04:06] <Tompu> geokok: i cant give you a guarantee, but im sure that you can
[04:06] <nolimitsoya> eNons3nse, that takes time, and doesnt work at all some times. killing manualy is the safe bet :)
[04:06] <geokok> .................................
[04:06] <ss06r> soundray, same deal...just a couple changelog gz
[04:06] <eNons3nse> nolimitsoya: thanks
[04:07] <chaplinux> my LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8, I want to modify for LANGUAGE=en_US.ISO-8859-1, which command that makes this?
[04:07] <geokok> well I ll let u know then...thank u very much for your help guys ..
[04:07] <Tompu> geokok: good luck
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> geokok, if you need a router for internet sharing, check out ipcop
[04:08] <nolimitsoya> (didnt catch what your problem was exactly...)
[04:08] <SpComb> Tompu: ethernet out? Is that IP or PPPoE?
[04:08] <buti> soundray: who can i talk to about getting a kernel patch included in ubuntu?
[04:08] <grndslm> why, when trying to use lvm, would pvscan list one of my devices as unknown??
[04:09] <gnomefreak> buti: file a bug on launchpad. with the patch attached
[04:09] <gnomefreak> !bugs | buti
[04:09] <ubotu> buti: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:09] <ss06r> soundray, can you see the docs atm?
[04:09] <MtJB> oh, my brothers, hear my plea, for i cannot hear them for myself.  my usbaudio, she does not play from the iNtarWEAVe, and this makes me very sad, esp when visiting youtube
[04:09] <ArmedKing> Anyone know how to update gnome (dapper) to version 2.16.1
[04:10] <buti> gnomefreak: ok
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ArmedKing: you have to install upgrade to edgy for 2.16
[04:10] <soundray> ss06r: no, just thought I'd point you to the defaults. I reckon you have to build the packages yourself.
[04:10] <ss06r> soundray, man thats annoying :D
[04:10] <ArmedKing> gnomefreak: I tryed that but edgy whas to buggy for me
[04:10] <ss06r> this is why i use gentoo at home :P
[04:10] <ss06r> stupid office computer :D
[04:10] <MtJB> it does work from applications on my computer, though
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ArmedKing: the only other way is to build it and its very very likely it wont work properly once its built
[04:11] <ArmedKing> gnomefreak: Tnx anyway man ;-)
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ArmedKing: looking at about 90% chance it wont work on dapper
[04:11] <soundray> buti: I think you file a wishlist bug
[04:12] <soundray> !bugs | buti
[04:12] <ubotu> buti: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:12] <buti> yeah, ok
[04:12] <ArmedKing> gnomefreak: Well when i upgraded to edgy a lot like 60% of my system whas messed up so
[04:12] <gnomefreak> buti: if you give me bug number ill change it to wishlist
[04:12] <tabias> how do I "install" bttv driver?
[04:12] <soundray> buti: what changes did you make? Because I can never make hibernation work...
[04:13] <ailean> I'm trying to watch some films, and even with all the volume turned right the way up, it's not very loud.  Under Windows, it's fine, so it's not my hardware.  is there something I can do?
[04:13] <Tompu> ailean: run alsamixer from a console and play with the 'advanced' settings
[04:13] <nolimitsoya> ailean, check out alsamixer
[04:13] <buti> soundray: i fixed suspend to ram on my sony vaio, by adding an ide reset.
[04:13] <soundray> ailean: install gnome-alsamixer and make sure you have both master and PCM volumes turned up
[04:13] <buti> soundray: it has to be issued before IDLEIMMEDIATE
[04:13] <ailean> thanks Tompu, nolimitsoya and soundray
[04:13] <grndslm> why, when trying to use lvm, would pvscan list one of my devices as unknown??
[04:14] <soundray> buti: did you work that out yourself, or is it described somewhere?
[04:14] <Tompu> ailean: just be careful, you can generate some bad noise with alsamixer, especially with emu10k cards
[04:14] <ailean> Tompu, I can undo my changes though?
[04:15] <buti> soundray: myself. i already had made a similar change about 1/2 a year ago (using gentoo)
[04:15] <soundray> buti: you might consider submitting it to the mainline kernel IDE subsystem maintainer, or to LKML
[04:15] <gnomefreak> buti: if you /msg me the bug number or link i will look at it when i get home. i have a meeting in a few.
[04:15] <Tompu> ailean: yes, you'll lose them on reboot
[04:15] <buti> gnomefreak: not ready yet.
[04:15] <gnomefreak> buti: msg me when it is ill look at it when i get home
[04:15] <buti> soundray: submitting to kernel developers sounds like PAIN
[04:15] <buti> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[04:16] <buti> bye gnomefreak
[04:16] <eNons3nse> oh.  one more firefox question.  the new spellcheck in forms feature.  does it just underline misspelled words which you have to then check yourself or is there a way it will show you what the correct spelling is?
[04:16] <soundray> buti: possibly. On the other hand, if you post it on LKML informally, you might trigger a discussion that leads to a more widely applicable solution.
[04:16] <buti> soundray: i don't believe my fix is "correct", "in the right place" ...
[04:17] <buti> soundray: but it makes resume from suspend2ram work 100% on my sony vaio
[04:17] <Tompu> eNons3nse: cant you right click the words?
[04:17] <buti> soundray: i was hoping for some ubuntu-kernel developer to do that...
[04:17] <tabias> !bttv
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bttv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <ailean> thanks Tompu, nolimitsoya and soundray - worked perfectly
[04:17] <soundray> buti: I'm sure your post would be welcome
[04:18] <nolimitsoya> ailean, np hf :)
[04:18] <Tompu> ailean: if your volume settings are lost on reboots, you might want to look at alsactl
[04:18] <eNons3nse> Tompu: it doesnt suggest any alternate spellings when i do.  it just gives me the usual right click menu
[04:18] <ailean> k
[04:18] <Tompu> ailean: though im sure there is a more Ubuntu way
[04:18] <Cheery> Hi, I need help with keymaps, there is such line as:
[04:18] <ailean> I reckon that advanced mixer should be installed by default
[04:18] <eNons3nse> Tompu: is it supposed to?
[04:18] <Cheery> keymaps 0-2,4-6,8-10,12-14
[04:19] <ailean> @ Tompu
[04:19] <Cheery> what does this mean?
[04:19] <buti> soundray: ok, i'll first report on bugs.ubuntu.com, see what it leads to, and then post to lkml, maybe
[04:19] <Cheery> its from .kmap -file
[04:19] <Tompu> ailean: im pretty sure you can get to most of those settings though gnomes volume mixer
[04:19] <Tompu> ailean: you just have to enable them in the gnome volume mixer preferences
[04:19] <Tompu> eNons3nse: no idea. my swiftfox doesnt seem to have spell checking enabled
[04:21] <ailean> Tompu, you can :) I'm obviously just stupid
[04:21] <Cheery> I read from manual it it defines what does the keymap specity
[04:21] <Tompu> ailean: i use alsamixer anyway ;)
[04:23] <Cheery> I have a problem with my keymap, it doesn't go on when I put it into xorg.conf
[04:23] <Cheery> And I don't know how to test those things :s
[04:23] <Tompu> Cheery: any hints in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[04:23] <nolimitsoya> Cheery, have restarted x?
[04:23] <nolimitsoya> *you
[04:23] <Cheery> nolimitsoya: yes
[04:23] <tuxub> hello, i am buying a webcam for my pc and like to know which one works out of the box and got the best performance?
[04:24] <Cheery> Tompu, lookin at it
[04:24] <Tompu> tuxub: 64 bit system?
[04:24] <tuxub> 32bit
[04:24] <doccy> how do i start and stop services?
[04:24] <Tompu> tuxub: ah. then the world is your oyster
[04:24] <Tompu> doccy: /etc/init.d/servicename start | stop | restart
[04:24] <doccy> thanks
[04:24] <tuxub> Tompu, not quite... i have a creative live effects and it doesnt work
[04:25] <eNons3nse> when i enable the "album artwork" plug-in on rhythmbox, where is it supposed to show the art?  i know i have album art in some of these ID3 tags, but it's not coming up anywhere.
[04:25] <Cheery> ok, it is open here and I read it now through, Tompu.
[04:25] <Tompu> Cheery: look for lines that start with (WW) and (EE), or that mention the name of your keymap
[04:26] <Tompu> eNons3nse: for me it shows at the bottom left
[04:26] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: Bottom left, yes... and it loads them off the net, not from the ID3. (never heard that :))
[04:26] <doccy> where can i find login screen themes?
[04:26] <Tomcat_> doccy: gnome-looks.org
[04:27] <Tomcat_> doccy: Sorry, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[04:27] <doccy> thanks
[04:27] <Tomcat_> doccy: "GDM Themes"
[04:27] <me_> BitTorrent question
[04:27] <eNons3nse> Tomcat_: really?  you can attatch photo files inside of ID3 tags.  my archos mp3 player displays them from there.
[04:27] <doccy> this linux thing is quite nice :)
[04:27] <LuisMendes> hi, how can I burn .mdf files in Ubuntu?
[04:27] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: Never heard or seen that... but interesting. :)
[04:27] <Cheery> Tompu, mysterious, there reads
[04:27] <Cheery> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "henkke-dvorak"
[04:27] <Cheery> (**) Generic Keyboard: XkbLayout: "henkke-dvorak"
[04:28] <me_> how do I start using BitTorrent that comes with Ubuntu included; it keeps asking for some BitTorrent metafile
[04:28] <Daro> !xgl
[04:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:28] <eNons3nse> Tomcat_: you can do it through easytag.  that's also how iTunes stores artwork to your files.
[04:29] <Janchi> @ me, what do you know about bittorrent?
[04:29] <me_> not much aside from some theory how it works
[04:29] <unfun> Can someone help me understand why I get this error when I try to play a movie in mplayer?
[04:29] <unfun> "there seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card availble"
[04:29] <Daro> !beryl
[04:29] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: From an architectural standpoint it's not really intelligent though... usually, about 10 to 15 files have the same cover art :)
[04:29] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[04:29] <Janchi> You need a torrent file, which you can find in various public places liek ThePirateBay and MiniNova
[04:30] <eNons3nse> Tomcat_: do you know where rhythmbox grabs artwork from then.  i know i listen to some obscure music, but it should be finding something that i've got.
[04:30] <compengi> does ubuntu have any problems with old compac leptop drivers?
[04:30] <Janchi> Or, for instance, from the Ubuntu download page to get the latest ISO
[04:30] <me_> Janchi: thanz, I'll do some homework
[04:30] <miguelinux> Hola a todos
[04:31] <LuisMendes> Hi, how can I burn .mdf files in Ubuntu? **********
[04:31] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: As I said, the web... probably last.fm or something.
[04:31] <kaptengu> Gnome takes forever to start up, after about 5 minutes after logging in I get the message: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:31] <Janchi> @me, enjoy the bittorrent realm :-)
[04:31] <kaptengu> Can someone help me?
[04:31] <miguelinux> Alguien me podra prestar ayuda para resolver un problema con Beryl?
[04:31] <eNons3nse> Tomcat_: yeah, that's true.  you can also attatch multiple images to the same file, to display stuff like band photos, event flyers for live recordings, etc...  it's actually pretty cool, but yes not very efficent.
[04:31] <netpython> LuisMendes, they are poweriso files?
[04:32] <LuisMendes> netpython, dunno about poweriso, but yes they are images
[04:32] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: /usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins/artdisplay has the python files for the plugin... it seems to use Amazon for the covers.
[04:32] <maxflax> kaptengu, sounds like a IRQ polling error
[04:32] <cycom> Why would my console be showing an accented letter 'a' instead of things like ' or block graphics?
[04:32] <dom_f> miguelinux: try ubuntu-es
[04:32] <netpython> LuisMendes, i know poweriso on windows is about the only one if i recall
[04:33] <cycom> my apostrophies and a few other things are acting funny.
[04:33] <LuisMendes> netpython, actually they are alcohol 120% images
[04:33] <eNons3nse> Tomcat_: I see.  well, that's probably why much of my music doesn't have artwork with it.
[04:33] <hou5ton> How do I  make the G-Mail notifier automatically launch whenever I boot up?
[04:33] <kaptengu> maxflax: what can I do to fix it?
[04:33] <netpython> LuisMendes, i see,have you googled yet?
[04:33] <eNons3nse> i just found a few more well known things that do, so it is working.
[04:33] <Tomcat_> eNons3nse: It also tries to search files like "cover", "album", "albumart", ".folder", "folder".... maybe you could write an ID3 cover art plugin? :)
[04:33] <LuisMendes> netpython, I'm trying, but cant find anything good...
[04:34] <eNons3nse> heh.  i don't know anything about writing software.
[04:34] <Tomcat_> :)
[04:34] <Cheery> bah, I will try to find a way myself to get my kmap working :(
[04:34] <eNons3nse> ah.  so maybe if i put a "cover.jpg" image file in each albums folder it would use that.
[04:34] <anders9034> hey i just installed ubuntu and i want  to know how do i install gstreamer so i can play mp3s in rythmbox?
[04:34] <salias> #ubuntu-es
[04:35] <Tomcat_> !restrictedformats | anders9034
[04:35] <ubotu> anders9034: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:35] <LuisMendes> netpython, actually there is a program on synaptic called 'mdf2iso', and it works good ;)
[04:36] <tabias> how do I install bttv drivers, I can't get the module to load or I can't just install it
[04:36] <maxflax> kaptengu, find out what hardware is causing it.. check dmesg
[04:36] <anders9034> thanks
[04:37] <netpython> LuisMendes, http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/
[04:37] <compudaze> bttv should load if you card is detected
[04:37] <netpython> oops you where first
[04:37] <eNons3nse> Oh.  Here's a Big question.  Lets say I don't use .m3u playlist files so I want to delete all of them from all my album folders.  Is there a way that I can do that without going to each individual folder and doing it for each file?  Like can I go to a top music directory in the shell and tell it to recoursivly delete every file with a .m3u extension?
[04:37] <savvas> tabias: try vstream: sudo apt-get install vstream
[04:37] <ZorbaTHut> anyone remember the program you can use to find out what shared libraries a program depends on? (not apt-related, it's outside apt)
[04:37] <Juhaz> ldd program
[04:38] <ZorbaTHut> ah, right. thanks juhaz
[04:38] <LuisMendes> netpython, weird.. it says the resulting iso file is not valid...
[04:38] <tabias> savvas: I installed vstream. Now I need tv ^^ (installed tvtime but blue screen and happauge bt878 card)
[04:38] <grndslm> why, when trying to use lvm, would pvscan list one of my devices as unknown??
[04:38] <eNons3nse> I messed that up once and ended up deleting a lot of my music accidentally.
[04:39] <xorllu> how can i configure konqueror (e.g. konqueror with splitview 2 panels) to show location toolbar (address bar) on each splitview panel? (that will be very useful)
[04:39] <savvas> tabias: sorry, i don't know any other solutions, maybe someone else does :\
[04:40] <savvas> xorllu: ctrl+l ?
[04:40] <mrbond82> What's a good (STABLE) IDE for C++ under ubuntu. I'm looking to just write console applications.. kind of like bloodshed dev c++ for windows
[04:40] <savvas> i use gnome though :p
[04:41] <netpython> vcdgear -raw2mpg videocd.mdf videocd.mpg
[04:41] <netpython> vcdimager -b videocd.bin -c videocd.cue videocd.mpg
[04:41] <netpython> cdrdao write videocd.cue
[04:41] <savvas> mrbond82: scite :)
[04:41] <kaptengu> maxflax: what should I look for in dmesg?
[04:41] <Tompu> mrbond82: anjuta is good if you're not using edgy
[04:41] <mrbond82> Tompu-- anjuta+edgy = broken
[04:41] <Tompu> mrbond82: otherwise i'd suggest eclipse with the c/c++ addon
[04:41] <xorllu> savvas, i need on each splitview panel one location toolbar (address bar)...
[04:42] <netpython> dinnertime
[04:42] <mrbond82> Tompu-- I tried using the eclipse with c++ addon and it stopped working after a while something about a plugin... :(
[04:42] <tuxub> anyone recomends a webcam for use on ubuntu edgy out of the box?
[04:42] <Tompu> mrbond82: have you tried another version of anjuta?
[04:42] <hou5ton> how can i find out what the command line is for a particular program?
[04:42] <wastrel> ubunto lunix
[04:43] <jvolkman> does anyone know how to find the domain controller for a particular domain?
[04:43] <jvolkman> using samba
[04:43] <wastrel> hou5ton:  what program
[04:43] <mrbond82> Tompu - how can I specifiy another version of anjuta in edgy ?
[04:43] <hou5ton> wastrel:    Gmail Notifier
[04:43] <wastrel> hou5ton:  apropos gmail  perhaps
[04:43] <Tompu> mrbond82: remove anjuta, then install without using synaptic or apt-get
[04:43] <Tompu> mrbond82: i.e download from sourceforge etc
[04:44] <Tompu> mrbond82: i havent been following the anjuta bug though
[04:44] <Tompu> mrbond82: there might be a fix for it
[04:44] <savvas> mrbond82: have you tried SciTE?
[04:44] <hou5ton> wastrel:   what is apropos?
[04:44] <mrbond82> Tompu -- anjuta froms ource?
[04:44] <MtJB> is flash 9 available?
[04:44] <mrbond82> savvas-- scite is just like a text editor
[04:45] <mrbond82> thaanks for the help bbl
[04:45] <maxflax> kaptengu, look if u can find errors when loading hardware!
[04:45] <kitche> !flash > MtJB
[04:45] <Tompu> mrbond82: from source or use a precompiled version other than the version in the repos
[04:45] <savvas> well there are plugins to make it better, with gui interface etc
[04:45] <Tompu> MtJB: flash9 beta is 'available' if you're feeling brave
[04:46] <MtJB> Tompu :)
[04:46] <cheesy> MtJB: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[04:46] <wastrel> hou5ton:  man apropos    it's a command to look for keywords in the manual
[04:46] <MtJB> cheesy, i thank you, and my grandchildren thank you
[04:46] <dakira> hi. has anyone ever seen the problem that after loging in the xserver just terminates and you go back to the graphical login (again)? xorg.0.log has no errors or warnings.. an fglrx driver is used
[04:47] <hou5ton> wastrel:   ok ... thanks
[04:47] <kitche> MtJB: there is also a package ubotu should have sent a link to you that had it
[04:47] <cheesy> MtJB: no problem
[04:47] <compudaze> XGL is so much faster than the beta nvidia driver/aiglx
[04:47] <savvas> tuxub: http://www.google.com/search?q=webcam%20linux
[04:47] <Tompu> compudaze: not for me
[04:47] <compudaze> really?
[04:47] <Tompu> compudaze: unless you mean aiglx with the driver
[04:48] <Tompu> compudaze: i use the beta nvidia driver and then i dont need xgl
[04:48] <Tompu> compudaze: i can compiz from X etc
[04:48] <compudaze> thats what i was doing
[04:48] <compudaze> but i switched to XGL so i wouldn't have to use the beta driver (problems, etc) and it's much faster for me
[04:49] <Kannix> Has anybody here managed to get a Hauppauge PVR350 tv card to to run with a player under Ubuntu?
[04:49] <jessid> hello, some of you know how can I connect a palm?  thanks
[04:49] <Kannix> jessid: What palm?
[04:49] <jessid> zire72, Kannix
[04:50] <Kannix> jessid: There is "jpilot".
[04:50] <jessid> thanks, Kannix
[04:50] <Kannix> jessid: and gnome-pilot.
[04:50] <lk11mn> hey can anyone help me - i have 2 existing raid arrays, and i'd like to install ubuntu on 1 and just be able to view/access the others? is this possible?
[04:50] <lk11mn> (without recreating raid)
[04:50] <ClayDragon> hello everybody, i failed yet again to set up my ati graphics with the fglrx driver, can somebody help me?
[04:50] <jessid> Kannix thanks...i will let you know any progress
[04:51] <plod> the webby down?
[04:51] <miguelinux> Hello Friends
[04:51] <wastrel> palm sync is broken in dapper
[04:52] <miguelinux> I've got aproblem with Beryl Aiglx on Edgy
[04:52] <ClayDragon> yes palm sync works again in edgy
[04:52] <wastrel> ClayDragon:  the wiki howto worked for me
[04:53] <ClayDragon> wastrel, it worked for me in the past releases as well, but this time strangely not (with edgy)
[04:53] <miguelinux> when I maximize a window this goes black. I've got Strict Binding activated
[04:53] <wastrel> ClayDragon:  did you turn off composite in your xorg.conf ?
[04:54] <miguelinux> I don't find such bug in Beryl
[04:54] <JaZyXGL> got a question i did apt-get --download-only source network-manager-gnome
[04:54] <JaZyXGL> now i have the tar.gz's
[04:54] <compudaze> weird problem i do have with XGL, my numpad doesn't work with numlock on as it should
[04:54] <JaZyXGL> how can i install it on another machine without  any access
[04:54] <nuse> hello
[04:54] <ClayDragon> wastrel: as in the wiki written, i put "composite" to "0" but theres still only the mesa driver loaded
[04:54] <JaZyXGL> to the net that is
[04:55] <ClayDragon> but ive only restarted my x server, should i give it a try with a reboot?
[04:55] <nuse> hi
[04:55] <miguelinux> wrastel:do you speak with me
[04:55] <wastrel> ClayDragon:  try reboot for sure.
[04:55] <lk11mn> hello
[04:55] <ClayDragon> ok ill give it a try. ;-) ill be back again in a few minutes. bye!
[04:55] <nuse> help me configure iptables amule
[04:55] <lk11mn> can someone help me with a RAID question????
[04:56] <osfameron> should WPA access "just work" on Edgy?
[04:56] <jessid> Kannix nothing, man...nothing happens...
[04:56] <JaZyXGL> osfamer
[04:56] <JaZyXGL> do this
[04:56] <hou5ton> wastrel:   yes ... that led me to the solution ... gmail-notify.    Now, can I sync a Treo 650 on Edgy?  :-)
[04:56] <JaZyXGL> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[04:56] <osfameron> I'm trying to connect to dad's wireless, and the usual iwconfig essid and iwconfig key: doesn't work
[04:56] <JaZyXGL> and use that applet for wpa
[04:56] <wastrel> miguelinux:  i don't knowanythingabout beryl or xgl .  maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:57] <JaZyXGL> use that applet
[04:57] <wastrel> hou5ton:  yes, do you want to use jpilot or evolution ?
[04:57] <dknet> a
[04:57] <kitche> osfameron: so I take it WEP and not WPA?
[04:57] <JaZyXGL> i'm using that applet
[04:57] <osfameron> JaZyXGL: ok, I'll try that :-)  I notice that edgy has wpa_supplicant, but couldn't get it to work
[04:57] <wastrel> hm is my spacebar flaky ?  know anything about...  :]
[04:57] <osfameron> kitche: well, I think it's WPA
[04:57] <psb154> where can I find an install image of ubuntu for Sun sparcs?
[04:57] <miguelinux> thanks
[04:57] <JaZyXGL> well i'm using that app with no problems :) using WPA EAP
[04:58] <hou5ton> wastrel:   I don't suppose I have a preference, unless you would tell me one is much better than the other.  I quit using MS Outlook quite some time ago, and have all my business and personal email sent to a gmail account ... but need to get the Treo back in the loop.
[04:58] <osfameron> kitche: as iwlist scan gives me a line like: IE: WPA Version 1
[04:58] <kitche> osfameron: yep you need wpa_supplicant and just use a applet to get it set up right
[04:58] <nuse> hola
[04:58] <nuse> speal spain?
[04:58] <wastrel> !es | nuse
[04:58] <hou5ton> wastrel:   I have used Evolution in the past .. and don't have any problems with it
[04:58] <ubotu> nuse: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:58] <nuse> speak
[04:59] <lk11mn> can someone help me with a RAID question????
[04:59] <Tomcat_> !meta | lk11mn
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Tomcat_> !metaquestion | lk11mn
[04:59] <ubotu> lk11mn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:59] <osfameron> kitche: ok :-)  damn this networking not just working nonsense :-)
[05:00] <wastrel> hou5ton:  jpilot is more like classic palm desktop, but isn't as integrated as evolution.    in evo the palm sync stuff seems to be a bit tacked on (the memo interface is very clunky) but it integrates with gnome calendar applet and stuff...  both work reasonably well
[05:00] <osfameron> JaZyXGL: right, installed... how do I use it? :-)
[05:00] <lk11mn> k, is it possible to install linux on an existing raid array? eg. i have windows on a striped array, id like to put ubuntu on it too
[05:00] <lk11mn> what does !metaquestion mean?
[05:00] <osfameron> (that's the biggest problem with apt-get, it doesn't report back on what menu item or command to use to run the stuff you just installed)
[05:00] <JaZyXGL> restart gdm and it should have a new network applet where you current one is
[05:01] <wastrel> hou5ton:   apt-get install jpilot   if you want to giveit a try or for evolution go to   System > Preferences > Palm OS Devices  and configure the gnome-pilot sync conduit
[05:01] <JaZyXGL> disable whatever adapter you want to use
[05:01] <JaZyXGL> with the new app
[05:01] <kitche> lk11mn: it means don't ask to ask for help just say your problem
[05:01] <JaZyXGL> iin the current network prefs
[05:01] <wastrel> hou5ton:  try  /dev/pilot  for the device
[05:01] <JaZyXGL> in network-monitor disable the adapters
[05:01] <ClayDragon> wastrel: thanks! i really needed just the reboot *blushing*
[05:01] <lk11mn> k, well i was just kinda askin to see if there was anyone around with that knows raid in ubuntu
[05:01] <hou5ton> wastrel:   the thing I wondering about is ... when I sync with Evolution I will probably lose all the extra programs I have on it ....
[05:01] <wastrel> one gets used to not rebooting in linux :]
[05:01] <osfameron> JaZyXGL: ok, disabled eth1
[05:01] <JaZyXGL> restart gdm and then enable the devices on network-manager and you should be able to connect
[05:02] <osfameron> JaZyXGL: restart gdm?
[05:02] <ClayDragon> wastrel: thats true ;-)
[05:02] <JaZyXGL> logout log back in
[05:02] <JaZyXGL> will work
[05:02] <JaZyXGL> shoudl not sure if i rebooted
[05:02] <JaZyXGL> holw up
[05:02] <gebruiker_> how do I set debconf priority?
[05:02] <JaZyXGL> hold up saw a good wiki
[05:03] <ubuntu> hi
[05:03] <wastrel> hou5ton:  i don't think that's a danger- the real problem is sometimes your data in the  address, todo, datebook & memo can get zapped.  backup first is a good idea, or carefully configure a "one time" behavior for 4 PIM conduits...
[05:03] <ubuntu> does someone know, if its hard to use debian etch?
[05:03] <lsc> how doi  get my computer to see a win nt network and print from it smb4k  see it  but i can't get kde print manger to print from it
[05:03] <JaZyXGL> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Networking
[05:03] <kitche> ubuntu: it's a step above ubuntu in hardness
[05:04] <JaZyXGL> hard like how Ubuntu
[05:04] <hou5ton> wastrel:   good idea .... but I think I'll waIt till I have a little more time .... thanks for the guidance
[05:04] <JaZyXGL> i'm using etch on my server machine
[05:04] <lk11mn> k, so i assume people arent just ignoring me because i smell... they just dont know if ubuntu can be installed on an existing raid array
[05:04] <lsc> does not see it in kde print mrg
[05:04] <JaZyXGL> ubuntu server wouldn't install
[05:04] <JaZyXGL> so went with debian
[05:04] <ubuntu> but is it hard to install or uninstall?
[05:04] <ubuntu> in case that i dont like it?
[05:05] <JaZyXGL> no it's not hard
[05:05] <JaZyXGL> to install
[05:05] <kitche> ubuntu: it's the same installer pretty much well not hte live cd but the alternate install
[05:05] <ubuntu> what about unistall :P?
[05:05] <JaZyXGL> yeah it's similar to the alt. install
[05:05] <psusi> lk11mn: what kind of raid array?
[05:05] <JaZyXGL> ..just format :P
[05:05] <ubuntu> but anything else :D?
[05:05] <lsc> how doi  get my computer to see a win nt network and print from it smb4k  see it  but i can't get kde print manger to print from it
[05:05] <lsc> does not see it in kde print mrg
[05:05] <chuckyp> Hrm.... alright I have an avi that I converted to mpeg2 with avidemux  how do I burn it to DVD so that a dvd player can play it?
[05:06] <ubuntu> cause i wouldnt like to loose information :P
[05:06] <lk11mn> raid 0 psusi
[05:06] <psusi> lk11mn: I mean is this a software raid?  hardware?  hardware fakeraid?
[05:06] <B-Minus> how can i extract .001 .002 etc .. files in CLI ?
[05:06] <lk11mn> sry, its hardware SATA i can give you the chipset... psusi
[05:06] <kitche> ubuntu: well I would recommand using partimage to back up your system
[05:07] <JaZyXGL> if you download the source of a pkg from apt-get using -d source myPKG
[05:07] <TC`> I use to connect to internet a static IP and DNS, but if i want to share internet it to laptop, what i should do? firestarter is shown that it uses DHCP, but i don't use it to connect to internet :|
[05:07] <Tompu> chuckyp: most dvd players will read standard mpeg files
[05:07] <psusi> lk11mn: unless you paid $400 for a raid card, then it is fake hardware raid... I wrote a howto on the subject on the wiki... see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[05:07] <chuckyp> Tompu, so just burn the mpeg to the dvd?
[05:07] <ubuntu> ok, thx for help
[05:07] <chuckyp> Tompu, or do I need some sort of dvd authoring software?
[05:07] <psusi> lk11mn: it is possible to get it working, but it will likely take some effort on your part
[05:07] <Tompu> chuckyp: that'll work for most new dvd players, afaik
[05:08] <lk11mn> great thx psusi (i hope its possible)
[05:08] <psusi> lk11mn: actually, I need to go update that wiki now for edgy ;)
[05:08] <fuffe> I thought of a script that can output statistics like these: http://area51.phpbb.com/statcvs/ but with subversion instead of cvs
[05:08] <fuffe> is there any?
[05:08] <chuckyp> Tompu, hrm.. well i'm looking for compatibility with all dvd players so I geuss i need k3b or something similiar
[05:08] <osfameron> JaZyXGL: I killed and restarted gdm, which logged me back in again.  I've just opened network admin and it's the same applet
[05:09] <Tompu> chuckyp: you're never going to get compatibility with all dvd players
[05:09] <JaZyXGL> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/Networking
[05:09] <JaZyXGL> goto that guide osfameron
[05:09] <JaZyXGL> brb
[05:09] <pbx> fuffe: Have you seen CIA?
[05:09] <chuckyp> Tompu, i'm talking of the vob system etc...
[05:09] <Tompu> chuckyp: there are dvd players that just wont play dvdr / dvdrw
[05:09] <JaZyXGL> i've got a class :-(
[05:09] <Tompu> chuckyp: yeah i realise that :)
[05:09] <TC`> I use to connect to Internet a static IP and DNS, but if i want to share Internet it to laptop, what i should do? firestarter is shown that it uses DHCP, but i don't use it to connect to internet :|
[05:09] <lk11mn> well its got its own bios and is configured before os, and it needed drivers etc... Silicon Image 3114 chipset?? psusi is this still fake raid? (like i know its not configured in the os like dynamic disks or something like that)
[05:09] <chuckyp> Tompu, well you say newer players will be able to play mpeg.   what about first gen dvd players?
[05:10] <Tompu> chuckyp: have a look at dvdstyler
[05:10] <TC`> is there a channel to ask about networking questions?
[05:10] <Tompu> chuckyp: http://dvdstyler.sourceforge.net/
[05:10] <psusi> lk11mn: yes... read the intro of that howto and it explains what fakeraid is
[05:10] <lk11mn> kk, thx
[05:11] <TC`> I use to connect to internet a static IP and DNS, but if i want to share internet it to laptop, what i should do? firestarter is shown that it uses DHCP, but i don't use it to connect to internet ... help please
[05:11] <fuffe> tried ubuntu yesterday and it was really neat!
[05:11] <Trist_an> Hello there
[05:11] <Trist_an> Is there any free equivalent of Maple on Linux?
[05:12] <kmaynard> accounting software?
[05:12] <Tompu> !dvdauthor
[05:12] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB
[05:12] <ifireball> TC`: it depends on what you want to do, if you don't mind setting a sattic IP and DNS on your laptop then you can just setup your Linux box to do NAT
[05:12] <psusi> lk11mn: getting it working is eactually much easier in edgy than it was back in breezy.... so don't be too scared of the instructions there ;)
[05:12] <Tompu> !qdvdauthor | chuckyp
[05:12] <ubotu> qdvdauthor: GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.1.2-0.0 (edgy), package size 3299 kB, installed size 6700 kB
[05:12] <TC`> !NAT
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NAT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <Trist_an> !maple
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <TC`> i got ubuntu on PC on laptop win xp sp2
[05:13] <ifireball> TC`: if you want it to be all automagic like windows connection sahring you'll need to setup your linux box as a DHCP server as well as a DNS proxy and a NAT
[05:13] <TC`> how to do that?
[05:13] <iami89> excuse me , where to download "dpkg development files"(dpkg-dev)?
[05:13] <lk11mn> k, cool i'm reading psusi - just i dont like the term "fake raid" it makes me feel like i was an idiot to think it was raid in the first place... could you call it "genuine impaired raid" or something like that?
[05:14] <Tompu> iami89: apt-get install dpkg-dev
[05:14] <TC`> ifireball: can talk in private about this question?
[05:14] <psusi> lk11mn: lol.... I didn't make up the name ;)
[05:14] <iami89> after power cut{failure}, what will happend, is it serious
[05:14] <akaDruid> hey all, I have an odd upgrade problem with edgy. I get "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package xli" and it won't proceed
[05:14] <ifireball> TC`: sure, though I'd rather find you a HOWTO or something because there is quite a lot to explain...
i want a link to download it
[05:14] <psusi> lk11mn: but it does describe it to a Tee... it is not hardware raid.... it is fake hardware raid ;)
[05:15] <psusi> cause it pretends to be
[05:15] <iami89> i'm now using windows to chat with you
[05:15] <psusi> for practical purposes though, it is close enough
[05:15] <savvas> iami89: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/dpkg-dev
[05:15] <psusi> I use one myself and am quite happy with it
[05:15] <iami89> i still cant setup and connect to internet by modem
[05:16] <lk11mn> wait tho, can i just clear something up before i read the entire document and realise something.... i can do this on an existing raid array without having to reformat it ?
[05:16] <kitche> iami89: what's your modem?
[05:16] <netpython> !minicom
[05:16] <ubotu> minicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-10 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 892 kB
[05:16] <Juhaz> Trist_an, there are some computer algebra systems that may or may not be equivalent of whatever you used maple for, probably not as polished and maybe not as complete
[05:17] <iami89> PCtel HSP v.92
[05:17] <iami89> after power cut{failure}, what will happend, is it serious?
[05:17] <iami89> how to setup my modem?
[05:18] <Juhaz> Trist_an, see wikipedia entry for maple, for example.
[05:18] <lk11mn> oh nvm :p
[05:19] <iami89> kitche -> can you answer my question?
[05:19] <Poser> Hello all.
[05:19] <Tompu> iami89: rephrase your powercut question
[05:19] <netpython> iami89, is it an asdl modem or an dial-up modem,winmodem.....
[05:19] <Tompu> netpython: dialup
[05:19] <netpython> oh
[05:20] <Poser> I'm sure people come in here all the damn time with XGL/Beryl questions, but I have a few issues I want to know if anyone else is having them.
[05:20] <psusi> lk11mn: yes
[05:20] <iami89> dialup modem
[05:20] <netpython> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:20] <Poser> Anyone?
[05:20] <me_> me
[05:20] <paitart> ne1 know a linux/FOSS alternative to adobe pagemaker? i need it for my ubuntu at home and at work
[05:20] <mram> Poser what is your question maybe I can help
[05:20] <lk11mn> great thx psusi, and reading the how to, it seems very simple yet detailed, good job, thx
[05:20] <Akuma_> my x86 copy boots, but not the x64 one, why is that?
[05:20] <Poser> Awesome.
[05:20] <svensko> can anyone provide me with a link to a walkthrough to install the hp driver?
[05:20] <iami89>  <netpython>  after power cut{failure}, what will happend, is it serious?
[05:20] <Poser> I followed the instructions on this page: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[05:21] <Tompu> Akuma_: what processor?
[05:21] <Akuma_> Tompu: AMD turion 64
[05:21] <Poser> mram: I have a Radeon 9700 Pro, AGP
[05:21] <psusi> lk11mn: just read the parts about what fakeraid is and hwo it works... ignore the parts about how to get it working as you don't have to do any of that in edgy
[05:21] <mram> Poser: I have a Radeon 9550 and mine worked fine
[05:21] <Poser> mram: And basically, everyone seems to work fine... at first.
[05:22] <Poser> mram: Well, Beryl starts.
[05:22] <tsoler> hello to all
[05:22] <mram> Poser: okay so you did get it working?
[05:22] <Yawner> Howdy guys, got a little problem with my wireless networking.. Ive just updated to Edgy and although my wireless card is recognized, ndiswrapper says its installed and detects all the hardware.. but when I try to scan for avaiolable connectons I keep drawing a blank.. Any Ideas?
[05:22] <psusi> lk11mn: in edgy it is prety much as simple as booting from the livecd, installing the dmraid package, partitioning the array hwo you like, including shrinking the windows partition by hand, then running the installer
[05:22] <tsoler> need a question
[05:22] <psusi> I think... ;)
[05:22] <Poser> mram: but after it loads the manager, the window borders blink like crazy
[05:22] <Poser> mram: and so does the shadow under the top menu bar.
[05:22] <mram> Poser: have you messed around with the setting to see if that helps out
[05:22] <phaedrus44> Yawner   did you blacklist the driver or module that ubuntu loads for the network adapter?
[05:23] <netpython> iami89, " after power cut{failure}, what will happend, is it serious?" what do you mean?
[05:23] <Poser> mram: they blink and blink and eventually, stop blinking, so all my windows are left without borders and buttons. :(
[05:23] <mram> Poser: Beryl has it's own settings
[05:23] <Poser> mram: nope, followed the instructions on the page I listed below.
[05:23] <iami89> only that?
[05:23] <mram> Poser: dude that sucks
[05:23] <iami89> is it serious?
[05:23] <Yawner> phaedrus44: yes i did
[05:23] <phaedrus44> unload the ndiswrapper module and load it back after blacklist....
[05:24] <Yawner> hmm ok
[05:24] <Yawner> 1 sec
[05:24] <phaedrus44> what card you have?
[05:24] <Poser> mram: any clues?
[05:24] <netpython> iami89, as long as there isn't smoking coming out of the device i guess not :-)
[05:24] <tsoler> guys can a have a remote connection on a windows 2003 server?
[05:24] <Yawner> phaedrus44: WG121 (Netgear USB)
[05:24] <mram> Poser: I am trying to figure out what would cause that
[05:24] <kitche> tsoler: yes you can use a couple of tools to login to the TS of 2003 server
[05:24] <Poser> mram: on dapper and Berly v0.1, it worked fine, but I had the SAME EXACT ISSUE when Beryl upgraded to .1.1 in dapper, so I got on Edgy and now it's happening again.
[05:24] <iami89> thank ^___^
[05:25] <phaedrus44> Yawner:  did you read that it works with ndiswrapper?
[05:25] <netpython> iami89, anytime
[05:25] <iami89> can you answer my question about my modem?
[05:25] <tsoler> i use the dafault tool for ubuntu ,
[05:25] <mram> Poser: hmm...i am wonder if has to do with Beryl .1.1
[05:25] <Poser> Same here.
[05:25] <Tompu> !dialup | iami89
[05:25] <ubotu> iami89: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[05:25] <mram> Poser: is there a way you can go back .1.0
[05:25] <Yawner> phaedrus44: yes, it even comes with linux drivers, on the cd it has a folder labelled ndis5
[05:25] <Akuma_> anyone has any idea why my computer boot ubuntu x86 but not x64?
[05:25] <Poser> mram, I don't think so.
[05:26] <iami89> ok, i'll try
[05:26] <bthibault> hi, my java plugin for firefox isn't working. FF 2.0 and I have sun-java5-plugin
[05:26] <bthibault> any ideas?
[05:26] <Tompu> bthibault: 32bit?
[05:26] <netpython> Tompu, i think he might want to use the scanmodem tool?
[05:26] <phaedrus44> Yawner :  cool
[05:26] <tsoler> kitche: i can not get connected
[05:26] <sharperguy> how can I access the disks partition GUI from the Edgy live-cd (its not there by default)
[05:26] <phaedrus44> did you use the windows xp driver with ndiswrapper?
[05:26] <mram> Poser: sorry man I can't think of anything else
[05:26] <savvas> bthibault: choose sun jre: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:26] <kitche> tsoler: well what are you using to connect?
[05:26] <Tompu> netpython: i have no idea at all. im blissfully free of dialup
[05:26] <mram> Poser: have you tried http://www.ubuntuforms.org
[05:27] <tsoler> terminal server client
[05:27] <Tompu> netpython: but i dont think he's been through the dialup guide
[05:27] <savvas> bthibault: then restart firefox and go to www.java.com to test it
[05:27] <tsoler> ii comes with ubuntiui installation
[05:27] <eXistenZ> What email client do you guys recommend? I didn't like evolution that much
[05:27] <Akuma_> is it possible to update to edgy x64 from dapper x86 ?
[05:27] <Poser> mram: it just bugs me that other people have it working on the same hardware. :(
[05:27] <netpython> Tompu, yeas you're right he should have been through that first
[05:27] <compudaze> Akuma_, reinstall from scratch
[05:27] <iami89> do you know where to download driver for my modem :PCtel HSP modem v.92?
[05:28] <Poser> mram, the forums turned up nothing
[05:28] <Akuma_> compudaze: thats fine with me, but x64 wont boot
[05:28] <mram> Poser: I hear you, it's frustrating.
[05:28] <mram> Poser: :-(
[05:28] <phaedrus44> Yawner: ?
[05:28] <tsoler> ive beenn connected once in the begging when i first installed ubuntu but i cannot anymore:(
[05:28] <bogdanp9> can i use gaim to talk to some1 that has windows with a mic ?
[05:28] <kitche> tsoler: hmm that should allow you to connect to it, you can also try nxclient since I believe that will allow you to connect to TS servers as well
[05:28] <mram> Poser: well sorry man I have to run, school time, hope you can find a solution soon
[05:29] <compudaze> bogdanp9, i dont think gaim does voice
[05:29] <bogdanp9> ok, thanks
[05:29] <Yawner> phaedrus44: hmm.. still doesnt work
[05:29] <compudaze> there is skype for linux
[05:29] <sharperguy> !msn
[05:29] <tsoler> kitche : what about the protocolls?
[05:29] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[05:29] <bthibault> Savvas: thanks
[05:29] <bogdanp9> ahhm
[05:29] <bogdanp9> thanks
[05:29] <kitche> tsoler: nxclient should have an option that will let you specify TS connection
[05:30] <tsoler> kitche : i see many protocolls here what is the correct one?
[05:30] <Tompu> gah i hate skype
[05:30] <sharperguy> !skype | compudaze
[05:30] <ubotu> compudaze: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:30] <Tompu> it randomly chooses to ignore the soundcard settings i give it, and picks one of my sound devices seemingly at random
[05:30] <buti> bbl
[05:30] <osfameron> hrmpf
[05:30] <Yawner> phaedrus44: doesnt seem to work
[05:30] <kitche> tsoler: It's been so long sicne I used a linux TS client
[05:30] <osfameron> the network-applet thing just says "no network connection" and doesn't do anything
[05:31] <tsoler> whts the differnce between rdp and vnc?
[05:31] <Yawner> phaedrus44: (im using a wired connection at the moment, as i need to switch that off to test, so ill be swapping in and out..)
[05:31] <sharperguy> how can I access the disks partition GUI from the Edgy live-cd (its not there by default)
[05:31] <tsoler> vnc
[05:31] <melon> [transcode]  warning : no option -y found, option -o ignored, writing to "/dev/null" <-- i got this on transcode - i kinda get the problem.. but the -o is output filename - and it appears that there was a file written - just not where it's supposed to be.. i can't find the file.. any ideas?
[05:31] <kitche> tsoler: think you want rdp vnc is used to vnc servers and such
[05:32] <kitche> melon: /dev/null will make the file no longer
[05:32] <earthian> !info dmraid
[05:32] <tsoler> a win 2003 is it a vnc or an rdp server?
[05:32] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[05:32] <melon> lol - definitely something i should know
[05:32] <earthian> ... i am removing ubuntu and moving to debian etch
[05:32] <melon> thanks
[05:32] <melon> :)
[05:32] <Yawner> Howdy guys, got a little problem with my wireless networking.. Ive just updated to Edgy and although my wireless card is recognized, ndiswrapper says its installed and detects all the hardware.. but when I try to scan for avaiolable connectons I keep drawing a blank.. Any Ideas?
[05:32] <Tompu> melon: i think you're trying to output only the audio component to /dev/null ?
[05:32] <earthian> :(
[05:34] <likwid> woo bitchx on edgy
[05:34] <sharperguy> how can I access the disks partition GUI from the Edgy live-cd (its not there by default)
[05:34] <melon> if anybody knows transcode at all.. what would i add for -y ? a simple vob->mpeg transcode - or is it not that simple?
[05:34] <compudaze> gparted
[05:34] <psusi> sharperguy: fire up gparted
[05:35] <defrysk> transcode ?
[05:35] <defrysk> try ffmpeg
[05:35] <defrysk> oh vob > transcode
[05:35] <defrysk> sorry
[05:35] <sharperguy> psusi: will that let me mont partitions?
[05:36] <sharperguy> *mount
[05:36] <Skenvoy> howdy, does anyone know if there's a 1.4.0 subversion package out for dapper?
[05:36] <psusi> sharperguy: no... moun from the command line
[05:36] <Skenvoy> not in the main repositories because i've obv. checked there
[05:36] <iami89> do you know how to remove ubuntu and reinstall with another version{example: ubuntu drapper...}
[05:37] <weardlan> format c:
[05:37] <variant> iami89: reboot to the dapper live cd and just install over the existing installation, making sure format is selected for the / parttion
[05:37] <iami89> when i insert my ubuntu disk after installed ubuntu, it cant run livecd, why?
[05:37] <melon> nm - found my answers :)
[05:37] <bogdanp9> when i use anjuta for programming in C++, i can't build the pr, i can't make an .exe file
[05:37] <sharperguy> what about system>administration>disks, i  would prefer to use it nut its not there
[05:38] <variant> iami89: fix bios
[05:38] <iami89> how to fix it?
[05:38] <psusi> bogdanp9: there is no such thing as .exe in linux
[05:38] <likwid> iami89: change boot order
[05:38] <variant> iami89: add the cd as the first bootable device
[05:38] <defrysk> hit DEL when starting pc ?
[05:38] <bogdanp9> hmm, then i'm stupid
[05:38] <bogdanp9> :d
[05:38] <variant> or f1 f2 whatever it is set to depending on bios
[05:39] <defrysk> yes
[05:39] <sharperguy> psusi: what about system>administration>disks, i  would prefer to use it nut its not there
[05:39] <iami89> nope, the cd still is the first bootable device
[05:39] <iami89> and it still show me setup menu
[05:39] <defrysk> iami89, how did you burn the cd ?
[05:39] <sharperguy> #ubuntu
[05:39] <variant> iami89: well then it should boot, having ubuntu isntalled will not affect the way the bios works
[05:40] <psusi> sharperguy: yes, it has been removed from gnome due to a number of bugs
[05:40] <Daro> !gdm
[05:40] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[05:40] <sharperguy> ah, well it still tells u to use it in the help files
[05:40] <psusi> sharperguy: yea... I know... heh...
[05:40] <likwid> there is a bug in the edgy install
[05:40] <iami89> but when i chose the fisrt line, and wait, after 2-3 min it say: kernel cant loaded
[05:40] <variant> !disks
[05:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:40] <sharperguy> lo
[05:40] <sharperguy> lol
[05:40] <psusi> there it is again ;)
[05:41] <iami89> and i cant run livecd
[05:41] <variant> iami89: the cd is busted?
[05:41] <likwid> if you run the GUI installer and have a premade partition from partition magic
[05:41] <Skenvoy> does anyone know if there's a 1.4.0 subversion package out for dapper?
[05:41] <likwid> it says "no root partition selected"
[05:41] <weardlan> edgy is bust
[05:41] <variant> sladen: google it
[05:41] <likwid> even if you put / for one
[05:41] <iami89> nope, its new one
[05:41] <kitche> Skenvoy: no there isn't one I even checked backports
[05:41] <sharperguy> will there be a 6.10.1?
[05:41] <likwid> you have to go back to the partitioner, delete your partition and remake it with that thing
[05:41] <iami89> i've just burn it
[05:41] <Skenvoy> arrg.
[05:41] <defrysk> sharperguy, nope
[05:41] <variant> iami89: try the one you used to isntall with
[05:41] <sharperguy> bloomineck
[05:41] <sharperguy> :P
[05:42] <defrysk> iami89, try burning it at a slower speed
[05:42] <LordDiabolus> who
[05:42] <iami89> i burned it at 8x
[05:42] <iami89> very slow
[05:42] <weardlan> edgy is bust, liveCD wont boot on many MBs (particularly laptops)
[05:42] <variant> iami89: does it boot witht he cd that you used to isntall with?
[05:42] <variant> weardlan: works 100% here
[05:42] <iami89> yes
[05:42] <wastrel> use the alternate CD instead
[05:42] <weardlan> so what, works 0% here
[05:42] <variant> iami89: then the cd you have is bust
[05:43] <sharperguy> i coulndt get it to brun etiher so i bought a cd from <advertising removed>
[05:43] <variant> weardlan: where is the bug report that it doesnt work on many laptops?
[05:43] <axisys_> how do i verify my serial port?
[05:43] <weardlan> edgy contains a known PATA bug fixced in kernel 2.5.18
[05:43] <praktikant> slept?
[05:43] <weardlan> 2.6.18 even
[05:43] <axisys_> i tried getty 9600 ttyS2
[05:43] <axisys_> but no response.. it used to work w/ dapper
[05:43] <sharperguy> weardlan: :P
[05:43] <iami89> but i use both windows & linux, is it reason?
[05:43] <weardlan> google ubuntu: cannot access tty: jobcontrol diabled
[05:44] <sharperguy> !jfgi
[05:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:44] <axisys_> weardlan: thnx
[05:45] <nolimitsoya> what does jfgi mean?
[05:45] <preaction> just f*** google it
[05:45] <variant> nolimitsoya: at a guess, just flaming google it
[05:45] <nolimitsoya> ok...
[05:45] <preaction> interestingly enough, i had to google it to find out
[05:45] <igorzolnikov> I have received "python-gadfly", "python-htmltmpl" and others packages in Software Updates, but i can't install it, because it's not available.
[05:45] <variant> preaction: lol
[05:45] <boink> g00gle has all of the answers
[05:46] <chuckyp> Okay burning the mpeg to dvd as a file did not work.  I need to know how to create a dvd from an mpeg file?
[05:46] <chuckyp> I've converted an avi to a mpeg2 file using avidemux now I just need to know how to burn it to a dvd.  I tried following someones instructions just buring the file to the dvd and its there however my dvd player won't play it.
[05:47] <chuckyp> Is there a program to create the vob tos etc... for the dvd?
[05:47] <defrysk> chuckyp, install dvdauthor
[05:47] <chuckyp> defrysk, k
[05:47] <variant> chuckyp: dvdauthor
[05:47] <Tompu> chuckyp: qdvdauthor has a gui interface to dvdauthor
[05:47] <defrysk> chuckyp, when done ask me again
[05:47] <variant> !dvdauthor
[05:47] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB
[05:47] <axisys_> weardlan: no luck
[05:47] <grndslm> how can i tell if a patch i need was included in an ubuntu specific version??
[05:47] <Tompu> chuckyp: which you'd know if you'd read everything i said to you earlier ;)
[05:47] <chuckyp> defrysk, installing now thats what I was looking for.
[05:48] <preaction> chuckyp, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page <- a script that might help you
[05:48] <weardlan> variant: I also filed this bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68173
[05:48] <chuckyp> Tompu, You are the one who said burning the mepg would work?  I was busy doing other stuff to read all of what you said.
[05:48] <defrysk> easyest way to set it up fore dvd (without menu) I can give your chuckyp
[05:48] <weardlan> and there are others
[05:48] <axisys_> weardlan: is there other way to verify what tty my serialport is map to?
[05:48] <Tompu> chuckyp: I said it'd work with most new dvd players. and it does. i do it regularly enough. but qdvdauthor works well for 'real' dvd's
[05:48] <weardlan> axisys_i: I have no idea what your talking about
[05:48] <defrysk> dvdauthor -o /dvd <dvdmpg>
[05:49] <grndslm> how can i tell if a patch i need was included in an ubuntu specific version??  after apt-get source-ing??
[05:49] <defrysk> try that chuck
[05:49] <wastrel> axisys_:  weardlan is complaining about bugs in edgy, not helping you out.  his google suggestion wasn't related to your problem.
[05:49] <axisys_> weardlan: i am trying to find out why i cannot access a console of a server thru my ubuntu's serial port now
[05:49] <igorzolnikov> I have received "python-gadfly", "python-htmltmpl" and others packages in Software Updates, but i can't install it, because it's not available.
[05:50] <defrysk> chuckyp, did that work ?
[05:50] <chuckyp> Tompu, it could be that the file did not have a .mpeg extension dunno if that matters for the dvd players or not.
[05:50] <Skenvoy> Connecting to subversion.tigris.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[05:50] <Skenvoy> lol.
[05:50] <chuckyp> defrysk, i'm install qdvdauthor for the qui
[05:50] <defrysk> ok if you want to make it hard ;)
[05:50] <chuckyp> Tompu, because you don't need the file extension for nix.
[05:51] <preaction> chuckyp, Video DVDs are a file system containing folders called AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS containing (the important file) Vobs. you can't just put any file on a DVD and expect it to work
[05:51] <axisys_> i have system connected to my laptop's serial port.. i could access it w/ dapper and now w/ edgy not working any more
[05:51] <chuckyp> preaction, according to Tompu you can.
[05:51] <axisys_> i use minicom to access
[05:52] <chuckyp> defrysk, I have it installed just trying to figure out how to use it now.
[05:52] <defrysk> chuckyp, it can be done on the cli very fast and almost automated
[05:52] <netpython> !gtkterm
[05:52] <chuckyp> k
[05:52] <preaction> chuckyp, because Tompu assumed you had a bleeding-edge DVD player capable of understanding and interpreting arbitrary video codecs, not the MPEG-2 that is the DVD standard
[05:52] <ubotu> gtkterm: A simple GTK+ serial port terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.5-1build1 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 228 kB
[05:53] <tony_> quit
[05:53] <preaction> i tried, it's too hard
[05:53] <chuckyp> preaction, it is an mpeg2 file
[05:53] <Tompu> preaction: I did point out that it only works with newer players. I dont appreciate your ingratitude, chuckyp
[05:53] <axisys_> netpython: was it a response to mine?
[05:53] <netpython> y
[05:53] <poopybutt> can i get ff 2.0 with apt-get?
[05:53] <preaction> chuckyp, but it's not a Vob. it must be exactly as the DVD specification says, and there are programs to do it
[05:54] <preaction> chuckyp, the one you're installing now, and tovid, and others
[05:54] <defrysk> chuckyp, dvdauthor -o dvd/ dvd.mpg
[05:54] <chuckyp> preaction, I know
[05:54] <chuckyp> defrysk, reading the man pages now
[05:54] <defrysk> chuckyp, vdauthor -o dvd/ -T
[05:54] <defrysk> chuckyp, growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvd/
[05:54] <defrysk> chuckyp, thats all
[05:54] <netpython> :-)
[05:55] <preaction> Tompu, what dvd players? i've got a messload of avis on dvd backups that it would be awesome to play in my dvd player
[05:55] <defrysk> chuckyp, dvdauthor -o dvd/ -T
[05:55] <defrysk> that should be sorry
[05:55] <kitche> preaction: I have a dvd player that can play avi's
[05:55] <chuckyp> defrysk, okay the first line creates the proper folders what does the -T line doing?
[05:55] <preaction> for now i just stream from my linux w/ DVD drive to the windows computer hooked up to my tv over the wireless network using samba
[05:55] <netpython> some play divx aswell
[05:55] <Tjoels> i got this (Error "Invalid URI" while copying "/home/troels...efault/lock") while copying some files from one hd to another, what does it mean?.
[05:56] <defrysk> chuckyp, the second files them
[05:56] <chuckyp> defrysk, and the growisofs?
[05:56] <defrysk> chuckyp, in this way you can put more then one movie in the /dvd folder
[05:56] <netpython> Tjoels, what are the file permissions,did you use sudo?
[05:56] <defrysk> chuckyp, tha growisofs burns it for you on dvd
[05:56] <preaction> growisofs makes the ISO filesystem for DVDs (ISO9660)
[05:57] <Tjoels> netpython, oh, maybe that's the problem ;)
[05:57] <defrysk> chuckyp, if its a rewritable it automaticly wipes it befor burning
[05:57] <netpython> Tjoels, you never know:-)
[05:58] <axisys_> netpython: would u know how do I find the serial port device I can find out ?
[05:58] <defrysk> Normal screen:
[05:58] <defrysk> ffmpeg -i film.avi -aspect 4:3 -target pal-dvd dvd.mpg (or ntsc-dvd)
[05:58] <defrysk> Wide screen:
[05:58] <defrysk> ffmpeg -i film.avi -aspect 16:9 -target pal-dvd dvd.mpg (or ntsc-dvd)
[05:58] <defrysk> Make dvd files without menu in a dvd/ folder:
[05:58] <defrysk> dvdauthor -o dvd/ dvd.mpg
[05:58] <defrysk> Just add several movies this way
[05:58] <defrysk> File the movies before burning in /dvd :
[05:58] <defrysk> dvdauthor -o dvd/ -T
[05:58] <defrysk> Burn:
[05:58] <defrysk> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvd/
[05:58] <defrysk> A rewritable will be erased automatically
[05:58] <Tompu> !paste | defrysk
[05:58] <ubotu> defrysk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:59] <Tompu> four lines man, four lines.
[05:59] <defrysk> did I paste publicly ?
[05:59] <chuckyp> defrysk, yeah
[05:59] <variant> defrysk: yup
[05:59] <defrysk> hmz was supposed to be privatly
[05:59] <defrysk> my mistake sorry
[05:59] <netpython> axisys_, i usually use gtkterm to setup my routers,plugin the seriall cable and restart them,if you get output on the screen it works:-)
[05:59] <Tompu> defrysk: np. i wanted to read it anyway
[05:59] <nonnis> hey im installing ubuntu, anyone know if there is a limit to how many logical partitions I can have?
[06:00] <eNons3nse> why did the take .rar archiving capabilities out of file roller for this release?  is there something i need to install to enable it?
[06:00] <Bardamu> hello
[06:00] <boggle> nonnis: I think it is 255
[06:00] <Tharkun> Have a question regarding xubuntu 6.06 to 6.10
[06:00] <ifireball> nonnis: up to 256; its PC limit, not an ubuntu limit
[06:00] <a_l_e> hello: which package do i have to install to compile software agains alsalibs?
[06:00] <Tompu> !rar | eNons3nse
[06:00] <ubotu> eNons3nse: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:00] <Tjoels> netpython: i tryed with sudo, and the output was this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30455/
[06:00] <chuckyp> defrysk, check your pm
[06:00] <Moodles> I'm having trouble with my ubuntu install, ever since I upgraded to Edgy, my mouse is going spastic... I had a PS2 mouse, then tried a USB mouse and it still does it
[06:00] <ifireball> nonnis: if you really want lots of partitions consider using LVM
[06:01] <Tompu> Moodles: spastic?
[06:01] <boggle> nonnis + ifireball : I agree with ifireball, if you need flexibility LVM is what you need
[06:01] <Moodles> I move the mouse, and the desktop icons light up one by one
[06:01] <Moodles> and the mouse pointer is nowhere near the icons
[06:01] <TC1> ;]
[06:01] <iqon> is there a way to "vote" for a bug to be applied to edgy?
[06:02] <iqon> or rather a fix to a but to be applied to edgy?
[06:02] <Tompu> iqon: dont you think edgy has enough bugs already?
[06:02] <netpython> Tjoels, you might try this cp -R /../.. /.../...
[06:02] <netpython> -R for recursive
[06:02] <Phaqui> how come my UI is so slow?
[06:02] <Tharkun> I have installed xubuntu 6.06 and was upgrading via the CD image to 6.10 and it seemed to hang after a while and I got frustrated with it and unplugged the PC is that a bug or was I just not patient enough?
[06:02] <Tjoels> netpython, ok. thanks
[06:02] <Phaqui> firefox is slow, amsn
[06:02] <iqon> Tompu, edgy's not that bad is it?
[06:02] <netpython> Tjoels, welcome
[06:03] <protocol1> Phaqui.maybe you should get your 3d acceleration running?
[06:03] <Tompu> iqon: i dont think so, but hang around in here for a couple of hours and you might change your mind
[06:03] <Phaqui> yea, but how
[06:03] <Phaqui> ?
[06:03] <protocol1> whats the latest edgy kernel?
[06:03] <protocol1> and how do I go about installing it from the console?
[06:03] <mc__> protocol1: 2.6.17
[06:03] <nonnis> Oh thanks guys, and Im just using 7 so ill be ok thanks
[06:03] <protocol1> I have a centrino
[06:04] <grndslm> if i download the lvm userspace tarball and make install it....will it automaticaly update from version 2.02.06 to 2.02.13??
[06:04] <preaction> iqon, Tompu, I had no problem installing xubuntu edgy on my own computer, but no end of problems installing it on my friend's computer, ymmv
[06:04] <protocol1> mc__, do you know how I can install the latest one from the console?
[06:04] <axisys_> netpython: but if i choose wrong device for terminal it wont give u any output correct?
[06:04] <protocol1> for a centrino?
[06:04] <LinuxHelp> How does one change the "Preferred Application" in Gnome for .mp3 files, from Totem to XMMS?
[06:04] <axisys_> netpython: by default i see it picks /dev/ttyS0
[06:04] <netpython> axisys_, yep
[06:05] <netpython> com1
[06:05] <mc__> has someone got enemy territory running on edgy? it complains about glibc
[06:05] <tabias> I've succesfully installed tvtime and bttv and I got television, BUT no audio. Not even when I plug in my sound directly in the tv-card (bt878) someone can help me?
[06:06] <protocol1> is there a 686 version kernel for edgy?
[06:06] <Tjoels> netpython: err, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30456/
[06:06] <axisys_> netpython: i had it on ttyS2.. i changed it back to ttyS0
[06:06] <axisys_> netpython: its working now
[06:06] <mc__> protocol1: apt-cache search
[06:07] <a_l_e> which package do i have to install to compile software against the alsalibs? i haven't found a libalsa-dev package :-((
[06:07] <preaction> tabias, open your sound mixer and see if the correct input is selected
[06:07] <ifireball> protocol1: it seems they decided to drop architecture flavoring in edgy
[06:07] <grndslm> LinuxHelp, open nautilus and right click an mp3 file.....go to Properties --> Open With...select XMMS, and you're done
[06:07] <protocol1> ok cool
[06:07] <netpython> axisys_, cool :-)
[06:07] <tabias> the input is set to line-in, where the cable is plugged in
[06:07] <protocol1> i'll stick with i386
[06:08] <Skyrail> anyone know why flash doesn't fully work on ubuntu 6.06?
[06:08] <nonnis> I have a "storage" partition in ext3, currently "empty" but still using some space. Can i do like this "tune2fs -m 1 /dev/hda7" to free up that space?
[06:08] <ifireball> protocol1: afaik "generic" is waht you need in Edgy, the rest are dummy packages
[06:08] <preaction> Skyrail, because it's flash 7, and linux has no flash 8
[06:08] <c_lisp> home!
[06:08] <protocol1> i will stay with what I got
[06:09] <protocol1> dont want to complicate things for myself
[06:09] <Skyrail> oh...I wish people didn't make flash for the newest of the new, there are still thousands without the newest versions :(
[06:09] <gordonjcp> hello
[06:09] <nonnis> skyrail: you could try the beta
[06:09] <tabias> it is like the audio isn't getting decoded
[06:09] <Tompu> Skyrail: most versions of flash will ask you to update on winblows
[06:09] <Unimatrix9> Skyrail - what does not work?
[06:10] <netpython> Tjoels, press the tab key after cp -R /home/../.mozilla
[06:10] <tabias> altho the volume in tvtime doesn't seem to increace (still 0)
[06:10] <overridex-laptop> anyone else's swap get disabled after hibernating on edgy?
[06:11] <brenlae> how do i use xmms to play an audio cd?
[06:11] <Unimatrix9> xmms cd plugin
[06:11] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: some videos on youtube and something on another site which looks like its off myspace
[06:11] <Skyrail> oh and radioblogclub doesn't work for me fully either
[06:11] <TC`> ifireball answer me
[06:11] <Tjoels> netpython, then it sais like "Display all 2277 possibilities? (y or n)"
[06:12] <Skyrail> Tompu: eh?
[06:12] <netpython> Tjoels, press no
[06:12] <Unimatrix9> Skyrail, wich version of ubuntu, and wich browser?
[06:12] <Agrajag> Skyrail: there's a flash 9 beta version available
[06:12] <nonnis> skyrail: There is flash9 beta, for me it works better then flash7
[06:12] <Tjoels> oh
[06:12] <Skyrail> Ubuntu 6.06 and Firefox 1.5
[06:13] <Skyrail> nonnis: ok where can I get it from?
[06:13] <Agrajag> Skyrail: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:13] <Unimatrix9> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:13] <Unimatrix9> ah, you are faster..
[06:13] <Tjoels> netpython, should it then have made the symbolic link?
[06:14] <Unimatrix9> but i dont think that thats the problem on your system,,,
[06:14] <defrysk> Brp!
[06:14] <netpython> nah
[06:14] <barnetod> i bet you guys memorized that :)
[06:14] <Skyrail> lol ok thanks people, I'll give that a try and hopefully it works, ah I don't want to switch back to windows for anything other then gaming. Also does anyone know if PSP X or PSP XI work with Wine?
[06:14] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:14] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: oh why?
[06:14] <Brio> anyone can tell me what this means.. --prefix=your_gnome_prefix   ?????
[06:14] <Tjoels> netpython, why does it make this error?
[06:14] <netpython> Tjoels, place a slash forward "/" after .mozilla
[06:14] <Unimatrix9> becuase i would have noticed, since i run the same system
[06:15] <Tjoels> netpython: oh, ok :D
[06:15] <kitche> Byan: why did you CTCP version the whole channel?
[06:15] <Byan> kitche: see, what people are using
[06:15] <Brio> what does your_gnome_prefix   mean ?
[06:15] <kyja> I would like to stream various video media from a web server for private inhome network use. any ideas?
[06:15] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: do you use radioblogclub? or myspace videos?
[06:15] <barnetod> anyone use anjuta or other c ide environments?
[06:15] <Byan> err, take off that comma
[06:16] <Brio> anyone can tell me what this means.. --prefix=your_gnome_prefix   ?????
[06:16] <Unimatrix9> youtube runs fine over here
[06:16] <Byan> turns out almost everyone is using either X-chat or irssi
[06:16] <Tjoels> netpython: it still does the same error.
[06:16] <netpython> Tjoels, f!#!@ :-)
[06:16] <Brio> anyone can tell me what this means.. --prefix=your_gnome_prefix   ?????
[06:17] <Unimatrix9> Skyrail, for some issue's whith sites that dont work i use the rather funny http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:17] <Tjoels> netpython, i think it' like one file or so that it won't copy
[06:17] <kkrusty> can i install kubuntu from the cd image without having to burn it?
[06:17] <Unimatrix9> yes internet explorer..on rare occasions...
[06:17] <kkrusty> kubuntu edgy that  is
[06:17] <Brio> where should I ask for help?
[06:17] <netpython> Tjoels, yes i thought so too
[06:17] <Tjoels> netpython, isn't there an argument for copying symbolic links too or something?
[06:18] <Brio> WHERE should I go to ask  for help?
[06:18] <netpython> Tjoels, and the same but now copied to /tmp
[06:18] <barnetod> brio ubuntuforums.org????
[06:18] <Akuma_> anyone knows why i'm able to boot an x86 cd but not an x64? i'm on amd turion 64
[06:18] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: ok :) I've just realised youtube works now but I've had problems with flash ebfore
[06:18] <Brio> ok
[06:18] <barnetod> bad burn?
[06:18] <Tjoels>  netpython, what did you mean by that last thing you said. i didn't understand it.
[06:18] <lilgg> is this the right channel for support on ubuntu powerpc?
[06:18] <Unimatrix9> ah , ok
[06:19] <Akuma_> barnetod: nop, i tried two different copies
[06:19] <kkrusty> nevermind i found it on google
[06:19] <netpython> instead of copying to yout lacie nas copying to /tmp dir
[06:19] <chrmm> Does anyone feel like helping a noob?
[06:19] <barnetod> did you verify the data?
[06:19] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: oh thanks for that I do some web development and I need to view it in IE aswell :D
[06:19] <Unimatrix9> chrmm state the nature of your problem
[06:19] <barnetod> might be a bad cluster in there
[06:19] <barnetod> i have had that happen specially when burning dvd's at high speeds
[06:20] <kkrusty> chrmm: only another noob :)
[06:20] <chrmm> Unimatrix9: I cant seem to find the partition Windows is installed on... Using Drapper
[06:20] <chrmm> How do i get it to show?
[06:20] <Tompu> chrmm: maybe you got lucky wrote over it
[06:20] <Unimatrix9> Skyrail, if you have an powerfull pc, you could consider to install vmware , and run an virtual "you know what" operating system...
[06:20] <barnetod> use konqueror
[06:20] <barnetod> :)
[06:20] <Skyrail> Unimatrix9: to see if it is another problem do you mind checking this site out for me to see if the flash video at the bottom works?
[06:21] <Unimatrix9> sure..
[06:21] <barnetod> sky whats the url
[06:21] <barnetod> im in windows right now
[06:21] <Arcad3> re all
[06:21] <Unimatrix9> chrmm, open console, ( shell ) and type mount
[06:21] <chrmm> Unimatrix9: did you see the questin
[06:22] <Skyrail> http://www.superchickonline.com/
[06:22] <chrmm> ok
[06:22] <Unimatrix9> hit enter...
[06:22] <Unimatrix9> what do you see, what does it tell you?
[06:22] <kkrusty> can anyone tell me how i can install kubuntu without burning the cd?
[06:23] <preaction> Skyrail, ew... emo music, and no it doesn't work
[06:23] <preaction> kkrusty, you could apt-get install kubuntu-desktop from inside ubuntu
[06:23] <chrmm>  it says:   /dev/sda5 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:23] <chrmm> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[06:23] <chrmm> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[06:23] <chrmm> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[06:23] <chrmm> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[06:23] <ifireball> kkrusty: install ubuntu, the setup the proper repo in sources.list and apt-get kobuntu-desktop
[06:23] <chrmm> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[06:23] <chrmm> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[06:23] <Skyrail> ok thought so, and since when has that been emo music lol.
[06:23] <chrmm> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[06:23] <chrmm> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[06:23] <chrmm> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[06:23] <Tompu> !paste | chrmm
[06:23] <chrmm> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[06:23] <ubotu> chrmm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:23] <chrmm> Sorry
[06:23] <kkrusty> preaction: im using windows :(
[06:23] <Unimatrix9> Skyrail, wathing sanctus real now
[06:23] <Tharkun> The Creative Commons ubuntu book .pdf where is that at?  I have searched the site but havn't found it.
[06:24] <Tjoels> netpython: what did you mean with "and the same but now copied to /tmp"
[06:24] <preaction> kkrusty, you have to burn the CD then
[06:24] <preaction> kkrusty, or you could order one from canonical
[06:24] <netpython> Tjoels, if you Use -R cp doesn't preserve symbolic links, so we have to use -aR :-)
[06:25] <paradizelost> howdy all, i'm having trouble getting flash to work in FF2 on edgy
[06:25] <kkrusty> preaction: that will take ages
[06:25] <paradizelost> anyone have some guidance?
[06:25] <iqon> why would nvidia-kernel-common be installed if i don't have an nvidia graphcs card?
[06:25] <Skyrail> preaction: emo music? I don't think so
[06:25] <defrysk> !flash
[06:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:25] <kkrusty> preaction: im in pakistan. anyhow is 3 GB good for a basic desktop installation
[06:26] <defrysk> iqon, for the nv-driver perhaps ?
[06:26] <Crankymonky> !offtopic
[06:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:26] <preaction> kkrusty, no, download the LiveCD installer, then install packages from the net as necessary after the base system is installed
[06:26] <paradizelost> defrysk, linked site only has stuff for 6.06
[06:26] <preaction> kkrusty, the LiveCD is only 500 meg, should be 2 hours on a DSL connection
[06:26] <paradizelost> not 6.10
[06:26] <paradizelost> and the instructions don't work
[06:27] <defrysk> paradizelost, do you have multiverse universe in your sources.list ?
[06:27] <Unimatrix9> chrmm do you see the tab ? on you chat client?
[06:27] <paradizelost> yes
[06:27] <Unimatrix9> i am there on private channel...
[06:28] <defrysk> paradizelost, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:28] <paradizelost> there is no flashplugin-nonfree when i try to install it
[06:28] <paradizelost> it says package not found
[06:28] <paradizelost> i tried the flash 9 guide, and that didn't work either
[06:28] <defrysk> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[06:28] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:28] <tabias> How can I install a printer that is connected to the network via a ZOT print server ?
[06:28] <defrysk> paradizelost, its in multiverse
[06:28] <evgind> Hi all!
[06:28] <paradizelost> again, has that been added to 5.10?"
[06:28] <paradizelost> 6.10
[06:29] <defrysk> paradizelost, so set multiverse up
[06:29] <Unimatrix9> chrmm , are you still with us?
[06:29] <stewski> anyone had fast ogg audio under edgy?
[06:29] <dcraven> paradizelost, yes it's in 6.10.
[06:29] <stewski> everything sounds speeded up
[06:30] <paradizelost> installation failed
[06:30] <barnetod> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:30] <netpython> stewski, yes on both x86 and x86_64
[06:30] <paradizelost> that's the whole error message i get now
[06:30] <stewski> since I installed nvidia beta driver
[06:30] <defrysk> paradizelost, for the flashbeta go here :  http://seveas.imbrandon.com and follow instructions
[06:31] <kkrusty> preaction: how about a network install? can i do a network install from a windows share?
[06:31] <stewski> really netpython, this only occured to me since nvidia beta install
[06:31] <Unimatrix9> chrmm where are you?
[06:31] <preaction> kkrusty, how are you going to get your computer to boot from the smb share?
[06:31] <defrysk> paradizelost, just make sure to accept download and licence during install of flash
[06:31] <stewski> are there any work arounds for this audio issue?
[06:31] <preaction> kkrusty, you're telling me you don't have a cd burner? even at 4x takes only 20 or so minutes
[06:31] <defrysk> paradizelost, probably you missed that
[06:31] <paradizelost> "downloading done - installation failed"
[06:32] <netpython> stewski, how awkward,haven't installed nvidia since it doesn't work with grsecurity yet
[06:32] <kkrusty> preaction: i dont have a cd
[06:32] <Skyrail> got flash fixed :) thanks
[06:32] <Unimatrix9> is chrmm kicked or what?
[06:32] <preaction> kkrusty, beans...
[06:32] <chrmm> no im here
[06:32] <barnetod> kkrusty download it?
[06:32] <chrmm> Im writing in the IM chat window
[06:32] <kkrusty> barnetod: yep ive downloaded it
[06:32] <preaction> kkrusty, buy one from canonical, it's only a couple dollars US
[06:32] <Unimatrix9> chrmm do this  sudo fdisk -l
[06:32] <Unimatrix9> in console..
[06:32] <Unimatrix9> dont paste...
[06:32] <chrmm> ok
[06:32] <barnetod> you have no burner?
[06:32] <Unimatrix9> it yet
[06:32] <netpython> stewski, one of the x86's has the regular nvidia from repository installed, no probs
[06:32] <barnetod> know anyone with a burner?
[06:33] <plato`> is there anyone here who have tried to change ntfs to ntfs-3g?
[06:33] <kkrusty> barnetod: i have a burner but no cd
[06:33] <stewski> so you have incorrect speed audio
[06:33] <jstarcher> How can I umount a usb flash drive? It keeps saying it's busy. I tried -r -f and -d
[06:33] <chrmm> Unimatrix9:  Just tell me when to paste ok?
[06:33] <barnetod> go buy one :)
[06:33] <evgind> i compiled new model of kernel 2.6.18 but i couldnt find for linux-dri-models.How can i find it?
[06:34] <Unimatrix9> chrmm ,, you dont have to paste, is there an ntfs - or fat32 hda?/sda?
[06:34] <preaction> jstarcher, kill all the processes that might be using it
[06:34] <Skyrail> lol I think it crashed
[06:34] <barnetod> hey guys do I need to add anything as far as codecs for listening to mp3's via rhythmbox?
[06:34] <kkrusty> preaction: i think ill just go and buy an empty cd tomorrow. That costs .5 dollar or so
[06:34] <preaction> kkrusty, sounds like a better plan
[06:34] <chrmm> Unimatrix9:  dev/sda1 and dev/sda5
[06:34] <yohskar> hello
[06:34] <tabias> How can I install a printer that is connected to the network via a ZOT print server ?
[06:34] <netpython> Bardamu, lame and/or mad
[06:35] <Tjoels> netpython, cp -aR does not work either
[06:35] <iqon> i'm having trouble with an package upgrade showing up in edgy: linux-restricted-modules - it's claiming that it can't install because suggested packages aren't installed
[06:35] <Unimatrix9> chrmm, fat32 or ntfs?
[06:35] <Bardamu> netpython:  ?
[06:35] <jstarcher> preaction: hmmm wonder what would be using it. I just mounted it for 5 seconds and because I realized I need to remount it with permissions to the user
[06:35] <iqon> i thought suggested packages weren't required
[06:35] <yohskar> someone can help me with environment variables?
[06:35] <kkrusty> preaction, barnetod: i was just wondering whether i could do all that without having to burn the cd
[06:35] <chrmm> Unimatrix9, It doesnt say
[06:35] <preaction> kkrusty, not from a fresh first linux install, it'd be possible to finagle it from another linux install though
[06:35] <barnetod> tabias did you open the lpd/lpr access?
[06:35] <evgind> i compiled new model of kernel 2.6.18 but i couldnt find for linux-dri-models.How can i find it?
[06:36] <netpython> !lame |Bardamu
[06:36] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[06:36] <Tompu> anyone have any suggestions for usable voice recognition in edgy?
[06:36] <tabias> no clue what that is?
[06:36] <Unimatrix9> chrmm, this is how mine looks like /dev/hda5            1598        3180    12715416    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:36] <gafita> ola
[06:36] <Unimatrix9> so you should have something similair...
[06:36] <kkrusty> preaction: if i have another linux machine, can i do a network install then?
[06:36] <barnetod> hold on ill get you some info
[06:36] <LjL> Tompu, Sphinx, but i'm not really sure i'd classify it as usable. and if you mean voice *dictation*, then no.
[06:36] <chrmm> Unimatrix9, sda1: Extended, Sda5: Linux
[06:36] <gafita> hello
[06:37] <Tompu> !info sphinx
[06:37] <kkrusty> preaction: im not sure about what network installl means exactly
[06:37] <ubotu> Package sphinx does not exist in any distro I know
[06:37] <Unimatrix9> chrmm, thats all?
[06:37] <netpython> Tjoels, strange,just tar the directory and untar it on the lacie :-)
[06:37] <gafita> hello
[06:37] <TC`> !unistall
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unistall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <chrmm> There /dev/sda1            9121        9729     4891792+   5  Extended
[06:37] <evgind> i compiled new model of kernel 2.6.18 but i couldnt find for linux-dri-models.How can i find it?
[06:37] <chrmm>  /dev/sda5            9122        9729     4883760   83  Linux
[06:38] <LjL> !info sphinx2-bin | Tompu
[06:38] <Tjoels> netpython, good idea.. but it's annoying that cp won'
[06:38] <ubotu> sphinx2-bin: speech recognition utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-2 (edgy), package size 138 kB, installed size 480 kB
[06:38] <jadacyrus> Hi all...Edgy/Nvidia 9625: Everytime I reboot after installing the 9625 Drivers, I get an API Kernel Mismatch error. Says the kernel module is like 7184 but the driver is 9625..How do I fix this?
[06:38] <Tjoels> netpython, good idea.. but it's annoying that cp won't just copy everything and preserve it's state.......
[06:38] <Tompu> LjL: thanks, i'll take a look
[06:38] <preaction> kkrusty, usually it means your computer boots from a floppy disk or bootable CD containing minimal software, and installs most of the software from the internet