[02:54] <SpAwN> i just unstalled it...i like it so far
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: Yeah, it was the new xorg when I had breezy...
[02:54] <sethk> Kayde, or because it doesn't think your monitor can display it
[02:54] <Red-Sox> snorks: i had my first dream... er... two nights ago, and everyone said that was weird, is it?
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Hows it going?
[02:54] <Kayde> ok...it could on win XP
[02:54] <sethk> czr, probably an older version
[02:54] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, well I have 5.10 and it has xf86. just installed it
[02:54] <czr> sethk, older version of 5.10?
[02:54] <SpAwN> i mean installed
[02:54] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: Look on the disk for xorg.
[02:55] <Toma-> ... Kayde find the part that says "section "screen"", find the depth youre using and add the resoultion u think your monitor can do
[02:55] <sethk> czr, no.  it may have some utilities with xf in them, but it is xorg
[02:55] <guru54_> yea Red-Sox, since you use logic to solve a problem,  theres a good chance why you like computers, they run off of logic
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Yeah.. i was wondering there.. Lol.. hows the compiling coming?
[02:55] <SpAwN> well i ran into a snag...i ran ./configure then make...and got a error
[02:55] <czr> sethk, xdpyinfo | less says XFree86
[02:55] <Kayde> ok ty tona
[02:55] <cenopec> i dunno what is going on buy my ubuntu is going to hell
[02:55] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Give me the line it spit out
[02:55] <Toma-> np
[02:55] <SpAwN> k
[02:55] <drapelyk> anyone have some freetime to help me setup a blog on my webserver?
[02:55] <Red-Sox> guru54_: oh, i see, it takes logic to build one, I know than (as Red-Sox builds a computer)
[02:55] <czr> Biscuitian_Warhe, apt-cache search xorg comes up with nothing too
[02:55] <snorks> Red-Sox: It's not weird, it just not normal according to social experience. Maybe you have dreamt before, and didn't know it was a dream. How can you define something, if you don't know how ?
[02:55] <existance> what do the dump and pass columns mean in /etc/fstab?
[02:55] <cenopec> first i could not mount my floppy now i cant mount my optical
[02:55] <cenopec> what the hell
[02:55] <sethk> czr, indeed, so what?
[02:56] <Red-Sox> snorks: ah, what a good point
[02:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> czr: I mean manually look in the disk files.
[02:56] <MagicFab> hello
[02:56] <cenopec> was there something wrong with the update
[02:56] <Agrajag> existance: dump means whether or not it gets backed up to tape by dump
[02:56] <Agrajag> which isn't really used any more
[02:56] <navarone> cenopec> did you try "sudo mount /dev/fd0" ?
[02:56] <Biscuitian_Warhe> drapelyk: I'd love too. But High School is SO LIFE SUCKING!
[02:56] <MagicFab> what software is used for ubotu ?
[02:56] <czr> sethk, so you mean that it is xserver-xorg even if it says xfree86?
[02:56] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well don't get me wrong. I was a bit blunt saying it wasn't normal :/ I don't know how to talk to a 12 year old without perhaps saying something wrong.  It would put the world in a totally different perspective
[02:57] <sethk> xorg split from the xfree86 source.  Many of the things with it still say xfree
[02:57] <corvax> hello
[02:57] <snorks> Red-Sox: Or perhaps make it all clear to you
[02:57] <guru54_> snorks, i like quantum physics
[02:57] <nvez> erm, SpAwN ..
[02:57] <snorks> guru54_: same
[02:57] <cenopec> navarone: yeah everything
[02:57] <nvez> apt-get install gcc ?
[02:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Open up Synapic, and search for gcc-3.4, and d/l install that.
[02:57] <existance> whats the prefix for a bash script?
[02:57] <Toma-> SpAwN: what and why are you compiling that?
[02:57] <nvez> +sudo
[02:57] <Agrajag> Schrodinger's cat is dead
[02:57] <snorks> guru54_: Red-Sox should watch "what the !#% do we know"
[02:57] <Red-Sox> snorks: i like quantum physics, it is not offered at my grade level, but I read about it all the time
[02:57] <SpAwN> i have no sound
[02:57] <Biscuitian_Warhe> SpAwN: Breezy uses gcc 4.0, and for the oddest reason nothing likes it.
[02:57] <guru54_> snorks, i own it
[02:57] <corvax> im interested in making a debian package from a tar.bz2 source file
[02:57] <existance> Schrodinger's cat is not dead
[02:57] <SpAwN> and am trying to instal them manualy
[02:57] <Toma-> SpAwN: dont.
[02:57] <SpAwN> hehe
[02:57] <czr> hmm. what is 5.10 codename?
[02:58] <czr> warty?
[02:58] <Agrajag> existance: FILTHY LIAR
[02:58] <neoplasticity> hello
[02:58] <corvax> the file is here
[02:58] <Toma-> czr: breezy badger
[02:58] <corvax> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Themes/MetaTheme-279.shtml
[02:58] <Agrajag> czr: warty was 4.10
[02:58] <czr> Toma-, thanks
[02:58] <snorks> Red-Sox: Hehe, I hereby sentence you to the most fascinating 12 year old boy I've ever met
[02:58] <nvez> Just use "sudo apt-get install gcc", SpAwN
[02:58] <existance> Agrajag, clearly i'm correct :P
[02:58] <czr> ahhahh. that explains the xfree86
[02:58] <sethk> SpAwN, there are packages for the older gcc versions
[02:58] <Toma-> SpAwN: compiling and installing alsa wont do anything
[02:58] <guru54_> lol snorks
[02:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lol @ argraj
[02:58] <czr> I wonder how that ended up on my system. I used netbase install iso
[02:58] <Agrajag> existance: don't make me open that box
[02:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Toma-: He needs the alsa-utils.
[02:58] <The_Isle_of_Mark> or whatever
[02:58] <Agrajag> I'll do it... hey it's empty, wtf
[02:58] <existance> Agrajag, unfortunately, you are too.  I'm going to go explode now.
[02:58] <snorks> guru54_: What you mean own it? You have the movie? Or are you owning at quantum physics?
[02:58] <Toma-> what for?
[02:58] <SpAwN> Toma-, i was told its worth a shot
[02:58] <guru54_> i finally committed to computer science and got accept to a college snausages
[02:58] <existance> hehe
[02:58] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Toma-: Trying to configure a card on ALSA.
[02:58] <guru54_> snorks, i have the movie
[02:58] <SpAwN> im desperat for sound now so ill try anything
[02:58] <Red-Sox> snorks: whoa... Im honored
[02:59] <Biscuitian_Warhe> existance: Don't make me eat that box...
[02:59] <sethk> SpAwN, better to try something that might work
[02:59] <Toma-> the alsa script at startup works as alsaconf
[02:59] <nvez> hm
[02:59] <nvez> why just not
[02:59] <cenopec> guru53_: where you gonna go
[02:59] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, boxes aren'
[02:59] <nvez> apt-get install alsa
[02:59] <existance> damn..
[02:59] <nvez> or that doesnt work?
[02:59] <drapelyk> anyone have some freetime to help me setup a blog on my webserver?
[02:59] <existance> Biscuitian_Warhe, boxes aren't so good on the digestive system
[02:59] <Toma-> SpAwN: what card do you have?
[02:59] <SpAwN> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: i like to read about quantum physics, nuclear science, and World War II
[03:00] <SpAwN> its the card that came with my dell dimension 8400
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: and linux ;)
[03:00] <guru54_> cenopec, im going to Southern Illinois University of Edwardsville as i get a great discount and have a uncle 15mins from campus im going to live with
[03:00] <snorks> Red-Sox: A tip based off of my personal experience is to stay extremely critical to social information.  It's brain-nuking at its best. Here's a scenario. A hospital lacks money to house all their patients in their own bed. A football stadium expands for over 3 mill $. Where is the logic?
[03:00] <maxi> alguien habla espaol ????
[03:00] <Red-Sox> snorks: i think linux is the most complicated of the four
[03:00] <Agrajag> !es
[03:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <navarone> guru54...sweet...nice to have family to support you
[03:00] <existance> what's the file that gets called at startup?
[03:01] <guru54_> yea will be nice on the finances
[03:01] <Toma-> SpAwN: what does "lspci | grep audio" return?
[03:01] <snorks> Red-Sox: Does your parents know you're smart?
[03:01] <maxi> hi ,,,
[03:01] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a$ lspci | grep audio
[03:01] <SpAwN> 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:01] <Red-Sox> snorks: wow, i never thought of that, but consider this, there are millions of people eating very seldemly, but you and I eat three times a day, that to lacks logic
[03:01] <guru54_> SIUE also has some awsome professors, i have worked with them, and all their equipment is amazing
[03:02] <Red-Sox> snorks: i guess, if you call me smart
[03:02] <jason0_> Trying to resize existing partition, when I input the new size, it just goes to a blue screen. The machine hasn't stalled, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything.
[03:02] <jason0_> Is this normal?
[03:02] <Beelzebub1234> why am i getting a      this cd does not have ubuntu      error?
[03:02] <snorks> Red-Sox: Maybe they don't want to bombard their cells with stimulative neurons, to live longer
[03:02] <Toma-> SpAwN: and its not getting loaded on boot?
[03:02] <snorks> Red-Sox: :P Well. Food makes us old and brittle
[03:02] <cenopec> guru54
[03:02] <SpAwN> well it hink it loads at boot
[03:03] <SpAwN> but there is no sound whatsoever
[03:03] <cenopec> guru54_: hope ya do well man
[03:03] <Red-Sox> snorks: food = good
[03:03] <Toma-> SpAwN: try this, "lsmod | grep ac97_codec"
[03:03] <Red-Sox> snorks: i think ;)
[03:03] <Toma-> dont paste the command aswell back in the chan plz ;)
[03:03] <maxi> hi Red-Sox
[03:03] <maxi> !!!!
[03:03] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a$ lsmod | grep ac97_codec
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd_ac97_codec         83932  1 snd_intel8x0
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd_pcm                88840  4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[03:03] <SpAwN> snd                    54884  10 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[03:03] <ubotu> maxi: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:03] <snorks> Red-Sox: Well yes of course :) It contains important stuff. But it's ultimately what brings us down aswell
[03:03] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:03] <guru54_> Red-Sox, coming from someone who had a 4.0gpa and high state/act scores yet by my junior year in HS fell to a 2.6gpa and rankked in the 75% of my class, do your homework no matter how easy and bogus it is, even if you can teach the class and argue the teacher out of his or her job
[03:03] <snorks> Red-Sox: In the rules of quantum physics at least
[03:03] <Red-Sox> maxi: um... hi, do I know you?
[03:04] <guru54_> cenopec, thx
[03:04] <Toma-> SpAwN: ok, its getting loaded. the recompiling and installing process would have done nothing. ;)
[03:04] <maxi> I , speake Spanish
[03:04] <navarone> snorks...if we all stop eating and breathing at least hospital beds will become available sooner...<s>
[03:04] <existance> !nvidia
[03:04] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:04] <SpAwN> welli think im gonna give it shot anyways who know
[03:04] <Veinos> hey
[03:04] <snorks> navarone: hehe
[03:04] <SpAwN> *kows
[03:04] <maxi> Where do yo From ? (Red-Box)
[03:04] <Red-Sox> guru54_: yes, i do, though i dont have a 4.0 gpa accumulated over the years, 3.8
[03:04] <Toma-> SpAwN: does this command make a sound? "cat .Xclients >> /dev/dsp"
[03:04] <Red-Sox> guru54_: i have gotten two B's i believe
[03:04] <snorks> box
[03:04] <Veinos> i'm new to linux, first time i install that :\ how do i log in the root user !?
[03:05] <maxi> Where do you From ? (Red-Box)
[03:05] <Agrajag> !tell Veinos about rootsudo
[03:05] <Red-Sox> maxi: why?
[03:05] <guru54_> Red-Sox, im talking about later grade school is bogus and they will tell you that, HighSchool is all that matters
[03:05] <SpAwN> roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~$ cat .Xclients >> /dev/dsp
[03:05] <SpAwN> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Veinos: su in a terminal can do it
[03:05] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: no it can't
[03:05] <Toma-> SpAwN: now we're getting somewhere.
[03:05] <Red-Sox> guru54_: oh, i see, right now i am preparing for high school, right?
[03:05] <Veinos> ok thanks
[03:05] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Agrajag: It will in a terminal?
[03:06] <Agrajag> Biscuitian_Warhe: no it won't.
[03:06] <Agrajag> Not in ubuntu.
[03:06] <Milk_> howdy folks!
[03:06] <snorks> hi Milk_
[03:06] <guru54_> Red-Sox, yea if your HS offers Honor classes look into it
[03:06] <nemik> when you ./ install bin apps, where do you usually do it? is /usr/share a good place?
[03:06] <maxi> My english , is not good
[03:06] <neoplasticity> does anyone know the command to show what services are running on your computer?
[03:06] <Agrajag> nemik: I usually put them in /opt
[03:06] <jcarr> Dapper?
[03:06] <jcarr> Dapper Dan?
[03:06] <Toma-> SpAwN: whats not making sound? xmms?
[03:06] <guru54_> Red-Sox, my HS didnt and i got bored quickly with the bullcrap they where teaching
[03:06] <snorks> neoplasticity: ps aux
[03:06] <SpAwN> everything
[03:06] <nemik> thanks agrajag
[03:06] <DapperDan> ps aix
[03:06] <SpAwN> no boot sound no mucis no movies
[03:06] <existance> uhh, what should I do if i installed the nvidia driver as per the website but i still can't get the right resolution?
[03:06] <SpAwN> no error sounds
[03:06] <DapperDan> cuz I loves aix
[03:06] <Red-Sox> guru54_: i am already taking High School credits, and next year i will take honors
[03:07] <jasongrieves> what about AIX
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> Just got my ubuntu shipment
[03:07] <DapperDan> I LOVES IT!
[03:07] <Milk_> snorks, :)
[03:07] <Toma-> SpAwN: try "killall esd" then play something in xmms
[03:07] <xiO_> I'm getting the 'killed killed killed' error when trying to install ubu5.1. ctrl+alt+f3 shos everything fine but last line is insmod .....isofs.ko  , and I don't see anything useful in /var/log  . Anyone have more ideas?
[03:07] <DapperDan> AIX is my precous
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> runnin it LIVE on a public terminal
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> :)
[03:07] <Agrajag> I have some old AIX books in my cubicle, the last guy left them there
[03:07] <guru54_> Red-Sox, nice im actually taking college classes for my senior year lol HS ran out of classes for me and i tested out of state ones
[03:07] <jasongrieves> lol im working on AIX here at IBM
[03:07] <ScreaminIke> tryin to work up the nerve to pass out all my extras
[03:07] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: oh it's all YOUR fault is it
[03:07] <jasongrieves> Agrajag lol
[03:08] <SpAwN> Toma-,  nope
[03:08] <SpAwN> nothing
[03:08] <Milk_> I got an odd one here... I accidentaly changed the orentation of my top menu bar the other night, and how changing it back (to top) it defaults to the middle center of the screen, If I expand it, it goes to the top and stays untill I restart X the next time..
[03:08] <snorks> Red-Sox: Out of curiosity, what did you dream about?
[03:08] <Milk_> any ideas?
[03:08] <jasongrieves> Agrajag hey AIX is good at some stuff
[03:08] <Toma-> SpAwN: is xmms saying device busy?
[03:08] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: oh I've never used it
[03:08] <Red-Sox> guru54_: cool, the middle school is letting me go ahead in the classes that I am real good at, and they let me take classes with the 8th grade HS credit guys
[03:08] <guru54_> snorks, what kinda question is that?
[03:08] <jasongrieves> Agrajag you probably never will :)
[03:08] <snorks> guru54_: an out of curiosity-question?
[03:08] <jasper> !w32
[03:08] <ubotu> jasper: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:08] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:08] <maxi> ubotu como hago eso ?
[03:08] <ubotu> I don't know, maxi
[03:08] <Agrajag> my job so far involves one linux box and one windows one, running opennms and a jabber server. my job is incredibly boring.
[03:09] <guru54_> snorks, in what reference
[03:09] <jasper> !w32codecs
[03:09] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[03:09] <Red-Sox> snorks: *cough* um... nevermind that *cough*
[03:09] <SpAwN> it says please chck that the sound card i configured and that i have the correct output plugin and that no other program is using the soundcard
[03:09] <calc> Agrajag: sleep
[03:09] <Agrajag> I'm about to ask for them to give me more work
[03:09] <guru54_> snorks, like just dreaming or what do you want to do with your life
[03:09] <Agrajag> calc: oh I do, every morning, it just doesn't feel right, you know?
[03:09] <monteiro> anyone knows the keys combination to make EOF in bash ?
[03:09] <jasongrieves> does ubuntu build hte damange and fixes extensiosn into X?
[03:09] <calc> Agrajag: heh
[03:09] <snorks> guru54_: If he dreamt about the solution to world peace I'd wanna hear about it.
[03:09] <guru54_> lol snorks
[03:09] <Agrajag> monteiro: ctrl-z
[03:10] <jasper> monteiro: try Ctrl+D?
[03:10] <Agrajag> oh
[03:10] <Agrajag> what am I saying
[03:10] <Red-Sox> snorks: im  embarrassed
[03:10] <Red-Sox> easily
[03:10] <Agrajag> it is D
[03:10] <guru54_> snorks, there is no solution
[03:10] <Agrajag> see, I didn't get my nap this morning, and this is what happens
[03:10] <monteiro> jasper : tks , you're right :)
[03:10] <guru54_> snorks, you would have to end the human race to gain peace
[03:10] <jasper> :)
[03:10] <navarone> guru54> yes there is...we all move to mars...<s>
[03:10] <snorks> guru54_: Well there ARE, but only for a short moment. exactly
[03:11] <durt> or at least the non-white races...
[03:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: i can tell you if you REALLY want me to, but you must PM me
[03:11] <SpAwN> brb
[03:11] <snorks> guru54_: grotesque. replace everyone with smart people, till the smart people gets mad at eachother. then you have it going again
[03:11] <snorks> Red-Sox: No need :)
[03:11] <Kayde> I got 2 go soon!
[03:11] <Red-Sox> snorks: phew! thank you, thank you, thank you
[03:11] <snorks> Red-Sox: Now you just make me feel bad :/
[03:11] <Toma-> SpAwN: just as a little note, compiling and installing another set of alsa drivers is going to be very dodgy.
[03:12] <guru54_> we should just join #red-sox Red-Sox , snorks
[03:12] <Agrajag> guru54_: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:12] <Red-Sox> guru54_: is it a real channel?
[03:12] <jasongrieves> does ubuntu build hte damange and fixes extensiosn into X?
[03:12] <Agrajag> just to keep it out of #ubuntu
[03:12] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: I think so
[03:12] <mjr> jasongrieves, seems to
[03:12] <SpAwN> hmm well i dont know what else to do
[03:12] <biscuit_> SpAwN: You still here? Dialup isn't perfect.
[03:13] <calc> jasongrieves: i see DAMAGE but not FIXES
[03:13] <mjr> at least my Hoary default X server has them
[03:13] <SpAwN> yes
[03:13] <mjr> calc, it's XFIXES
[03:13] <Toma-> jasongrieves: fixes? i know it has the damage extensions..
[03:13] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Anything go wrong?
[03:13] <jasongrieves> how can I probe
[03:13] <jasongrieves> Xfixes
[03:13] <calc> mjr: ah i see it now
[03:13] <mjr> jasongrieves, xdpyinfo lists the extensions
[03:13] <calc> jasongrieves: yea xfixes is in there
[03:13] <SpAwN> not yet....its still compiling
[03:13] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:13] <jasongrieves> ah thanks, been a while
[03:13] <Toma-> *sigh* i cant wait to say "i told you so"
[03:13] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Alrite, *Crosses fingers hoping we had the same problem.. Lol
[03:13] <[LV] z1ng3r> hi. can anybody help me on setting this permission on folder? drwx-wx--T
[03:14] <jasongrieves> Agrajag you dont have an old P series box do you?
[03:14] <Agrajag> P series?
[03:14] <[LV] z1ng3r> plz
[03:14] <jasongrieves> Agrajag get some old AIX disks and have some fun :)
[03:14] <Agrajag> oh, no no
[03:14] <jasongrieves> IBM power chpis
[03:14] <SpAwN> well if i cant get this sound to wokr i can always go back to mandriva
[03:14] <Kayde> SO NOONE CANHELP??
[03:14] <Agrajag> All I have access to at work is a cheap Dell
[03:14] <existance> zlng3r, try this site http://catcode.com/teachmod/chmod_cmd2.html
[03:14] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:14] <Agrajag> Trying to make a usable system out of it
[03:14] <Kayde> SO noone can help wth screen fuzz?
[03:14] <durt> man chmod
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> screen fuzz?
[03:14] <Toma-> Kayde: you've set the wrong screen resolution.
[03:15] <sethk> Kayde, did you ever figure out what your frequencies are?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:15] <[LV] z1ng3r> durt tnx a lot :E
[03:15] <Kayde> yes! 60htz
[03:15] <jasongrieves> Agrajag i stll am trying to figure out how they are selling a #300 dollar laptop
[03:15] <existance> why can't i change the permissions of a directory I created in / ?
[03:15] <sethk> Kayde, and the resolution you are using?
[03:15] <jasongrieves> Agrajag their right above us in Round Rock Texas
[03:16] <sethk> existance, you probably need to use sudo
[03:16] <Agrajag> jasongrieves: who is?
[03:16] <jasongrieves> Agrajag main Dell HQ
[03:16] <Agrajag> oh
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> existance,  its not a mount point is it?
[03:16] <existance> Dr_Willis, kinda .. :/
[03:16] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt
[03:16] <jasongrieves> guy across the apt. works for them, i work at IBM, good laughs
[03:16] <existance> Dr_Willis, well, yea actually, that means i can't change it?
[03:16] <[LV] z1ng3r> can anybody help me on setting this permission on folder? drwx-wx--T
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> existance,  kinda? :P is it mounting a WIndows partition?
[03:17] <existance> Dr_Willis, yup, good guess :P
[03:17] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt
[03:17] <matt__> hey, can someone help with installing a package I've downloaded?
[03:17] <existance> [LV] z1ng3r, try this site http://catcode.com/teachmod/chmod_cmd2.html
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> existance,  you need to set the 'umask=' option to be what you need.
[03:17] <Kayde> Me?
[03:17] <[LV] z1ng3r> existance tnx
[03:17] <xiO_> I'm getting the 'killed killed killed' error when trying to install ubuntu 5.1. looking in /var/log/syslog it shows process '/sbin/debian-installer' erroring/exiting. anyone know why this would happen?
[03:17] <dpupp-away> so if i wanted to try KDE in ubuntu, what do i need to do?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> existance,  type "!ntfs" and read the bots message
[03:17] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen
[03:17] <existance> !ntfs
[03:18] <existance> Dr_Willis, will do
[03:18] <matt__> I have the deb file in my home directory, but the synaptic package manager doesn't seem to work with individual files, only repositories.
[03:18] <sethk> matt__, right, you use dpkg
[03:18] <xiO_> dpkg -i debname.deb ?
[03:19] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen??
[03:19] <dpupp> sethk, and how would you remove it?
[03:19] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff
[03:19] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Hows it coming?
[03:19] <Toma-> xiO_: bad install media?
[03:19] <matt__> cool beans :) thanks.
[03:19] <existance> Dr_Willis: i already edited fstab to put it at /(directory)
[03:19] <Toma-> Kayde: what monitor is it?
[03:19] <matt__> will that take care of any dependencies as wel?
[03:19] <xiO_> Toma: cd checks out with md5..?
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> existance,  did you use the 'umask' option?
[03:19] <Kayde> toshiba satelite laptop mionitor
[03:19] <sethk> dpupp, remove what?
[03:19] <SpAwN> im on the utils and i ran configure
[03:19] <Toma-> xiO_: tried the "check media" part of the install?
[03:19] <existance> Dr_Willis, nope, never heard of it :/ decently new to unix fs
[03:20] <SpAwN> thenm i went to use make and got this roob@sMoKiNgDoPe:~/Desktop/alsa-utils-1.0.9rc4a$ make
[03:20] <SpAwN> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:20] <xiO_> toma: yeah, A-ok
[03:20] <dpupp> sethk you were saying how to install a deb... how would you uninstall a deb ?
[03:20] <navarone> matt__> you have to cd to home directory...or wherever deb file is first in termianl
[03:20] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff,  toshiba satelite laptop mionitor
[03:20] <Agrajag> Kayde: did you try any other resolutions? A lot of laptops use 1024x768 natively
[03:20] <sethk> dpupp, not sure, do man dpkg
[03:20] <LjL> dpupp: you can use apt-get for that
[03:20] <Kayde> it dosnt have that option
[03:20] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen??  help
[03:20] <Agrajag> and anything else will be scaled and look ugly
[03:20] <dpupp> sethk. ok thanks.
[03:20] <Kayde>  1024x768 isnt in the option
[03:20] <existance> Dr_Willis, still reading the article in !ntfs so i might find it :), i don't  really want to do it the auto way though
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> existance,  the 'issue' is that windows partitions cant have the same 'permissions' set as a normal ext2/3 filesystem. The Mount/fstab options are used to set them at mount time. and they dont change afterwards
[03:21] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Try make depend
[03:21] <dpupp> i want to try KDE. what do i need to do? im currently using ubuntu 5.10 gnome.
[03:21] <redeeman> anyone here using snd-usb-audio?
[03:21] <SpAwN> ahh i just saw this "configure: error: this packages requires a curses library
[03:21] <SpAwN> " any idea?
[03:21] <funkyHat> matt__, it won't take care of deps, but if there are any issues it will tell you, then you can use synaptic/apt to fix them and finish installing
[03:21] <sethk> SpAwN, install ncurses
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> install a curses library :P
[03:21] <SpAwN> ahh k
[03:21] <Toma-> SpAwN: you need the ncurses-dev
[03:21] <buddy> is there a program in ubuntu that will allow me to see vnc servers. I have connected to my ubuntu machine with a windows machine but cant find a program to view other machiens from my ubuntu one
[03:21] <existance> Dr_Willis, looks like its fmask and dmask
[03:21] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:21] <SpAwN> ah k thanks
[03:22] <jasongrieves> WARNING: Couldn't find the DAMAGE library. Check config.log for details
[03:22] <existance> Dr_Willis, there's  a file_umask for Apple systems though
[03:22] <navarone> existance> I have prob with windows partion I use for p2p shares...I cannot write directly to the shared folder...hoever I can createa  new folder ther and transfer files there and then transfer again to shares thru windows
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> existance,  i normally set umask, and uid and gid, depending on what i want to do.
[03:22] <jasongrieves> drat my debian skills
[03:22] <jasongrieves> where do extensions go?
[03:22] <Toma-> SpAwN: if youre serious about screwing your system, try this first, "apt-get build-dep alsa"
[03:22] <gparent> Where does linux mount shared folders from Windows ?
[03:22] <gparent> I tried Mnt, didnt work.
[03:22] <Toma-> and alsa-lib
[03:22] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:22] <navarone> gparent...maybe in /media
[03:22] <Agrajag> buddy: Applications > Internet> Terminal Server Client
[03:22] <FuzzyGhost> Heya
[03:22] <gparent> Alright..
[03:22] <mjr> jasongrieves, you probably want libxdamage-dev
[03:22] <quacker> gparent, /media/
[03:22] <jasongrieves> mjr, ah, probobaly
[03:22] <buddy> Agrajag: Thank you
[03:22] <gparent> Nope.
[03:23] <gparent> Damn
[03:23] <gparent> Let me check my VMWare settings
[03:23] <SpAwN> aallright Toma- ill try that right after
[03:23] <navarone> gparent...is it set to automount?
[03:23] <existance> navarone, the other day someone said you couldn't write to ntfs, only read... you can write to it?
[03:23] <biscuit_> SpAwN: I gotta kinda go now. :/
[03:23] <gparent> Where do I see that option?
[03:23] <Natdigga_> alright...I've been on ubuntu for 3 days now just enjoying the software that came with it...so what do you all suggest I do now...I'm ready to get my hands dirty!  :)
[03:23] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:23] <existance> Dr_Willis, how do you use umask? I don't see it in this article
[03:23] <SpAwN> biscuit_, thanks for ya help so far
[03:23] <quacker> gparent, then they're not mounted
[03:23] <Toma-> SpAwN: it'll install all the packages you need to build alsa-base... do it before
[03:23] <redeeman> gparent: it doesent just mount automatically
[03:23] <FuzzyGhost> I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with a Nvidia problem.
[03:23] <SpAwN> ill figure it out :D
[03:23] <Kayde> Any help or do i try a diofferent place?!
[03:23] <drapelyk> All: could anyone help me get MySQL working with PHP4.3+?
[03:23] <SpAwN> ohh Toma- got ya
[03:23] <navarone> existance...no writing to ntfs can lead to corruption. I use a fat32 partition for sharinf files between os's
[03:23] <Toma-> SpAwN: actually, forget it. ill take no part in this murder.
[03:23] <gparent> Then how do I mount it?
[03:23] <existance> Dr_Willis, granted it goes in the fstab entry, i mean what = what permission
[03:23] <redeeman> drapelyk: just install it, but you should get php 5
[03:23] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Alrite, you should be able to get it. Lol. If you need anything drop a line to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:23] <existance> navarone,i see
[03:24] <biscuit_> SpAwN: Later dude.
[03:24] <SpAwN> ahh thanks bro
[03:24] <SpAwN> pz
[03:24] <Kayde> 800x600 is fuzzy, 640x480 isnt My Refresh rate is: 60Hz or 58Hz no diff,  toshiba satelite laptop mionitor  Can someone help or should i go somewhear else?
[03:24] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, I'm trying to install a blog solution on my webserver
[03:24] <evilX> how  i do to repair my splash screen on gnome??  help
[03:24] <redeeman> gparent: you gotta install smbfs, then you can mount using the mount command, but you can also just use the gnome network browser to browse the network
[03:24] <Kayde> fuzzy asin stuffed
[03:24] <drapelyk> redeeman: I've got Apache2 installed, I need to get MySQL and I guess PHP5? running
[03:24] <gparent> thx
[03:24] <Toma-> evilX: what do you mean repair?
[03:24] <SpAwN> Toma-, apt-get build-dep alsa doesnt install anything for me anyways
[03:25] <Toma-> SpAwN: try alsa-base instead of alsa
[03:25] <redeeman> drapelyk: php is a matter of simply being installed, mysql aswell, since it starts itself when you install
[03:25] <The_Isle_of_Mark> anyone have any idea when the ucp test is coming out?
[03:25] <SpAwN> k
[03:25] <drocko> When i installed ubuntu it partitioned off my entire physical drive as an LVM volume. i would like to make another partition that is not in the LVM. is it possible to resize a physical volume?
[03:25] <drocko> in LVM that is
[03:25] <drapelyk> redeeman: so there is no configuration?
[03:25] <Sionide> offtopic: anyone here watch desperate housewives?
[03:25] <redeeman> drapelyk: there shouldn't be
[03:25] <evilX> i install a splashy thing.. to change the image when the unbuntu its monting the sistem
[03:26] <drapelyk> redeeman: k, do you know why i'm not seeing PHP5 when I "apt-cache search PHP"?
[03:26] <SpAwN> well Toma- what exactly does this install and how might it help my no sound?
[03:26] <evilX> but doest work
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: don't use captive php
[03:26] <jasongrieves> mjr, good call, i just noticed fixes libs were there
[03:26] <SpAwN> im not used to ubuntu or gnome so pls bear with me
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: besides, it might be called mod_php
[03:26] <afabian> dpupp, what have you got in mind?  Compiling perl and installing it in /usr?
[03:26] <jasongrieves> no damage
[03:26] <Toma-> SpAwN: if you'd been listening to me, its going to do nothing.
[03:26] <drapelyk> redeeman: I don't understand
[03:26] <redeeman> drapelyk: apt-cache search php
[03:26] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman I did
[03:27] <Toma-> evilX: click System > Preferences > Spplash Screen and change it back
[03:27] <evilX>  i uninstalling splashy thing , i reboot and the original splash bar does work
[03:27] <SpAwN> lol i say that command doesnt work and u give me the right one...then i ask what i installed and u say that?
[03:27] <redeeman> drapelyk: not PHP, php
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok
[03:27] <FuzzyGhost> Would there be a less busy time I could come back, or an e-mail I could send the question too?
[03:27] <durt> [LV] z1ng3r: if you havent figured it out yet, its 1730
[03:27] <Toma-> well you seemed hellbent on installing these compiled drivers when its got nothing to do with the drivers at all
[03:27] <boo> hey what is a cpkg file?
[03:27] <Kayde> HELP me: my laptop monitor, when on Win XP it works, on ubuntu it dosnt-its squiggly in bottom corner of screen, on 800x600  my refresh is 60hz when i lower my resolution it stuffes again
[03:27] <drapelyk> redeeman: still just php php3 and php4
[03:27] <theblue> dkman: This is a response.
[03:28] <redeeman> drapelyk: okay, i guess php5 is in universe/multiverse then, but php4 should work too
[03:28] <SpAwN> well i biscuit was helping me
[03:28] <gparent> I dunno
[03:28] <gparent> I cant find it in network
[03:28] <gparent> Its odd
[03:28] <SpAwN> he has the same prob as me he was saying
[03:28] <drapelyk> k
[03:28] <SpAwN> oh well
[03:28] <Toma-> SpAwN: he doesnt know what he's talking about
[03:28] <Kayde> HELP me: my laptop monitor, when on Win XP it works, on ubuntu it dosnt-its squiggly in bottom corner of screen, on 800x600  my refresh is 60hz when i lower my resolution it stuffes again, exept 640x480 it workes
[03:28] <drapelyk> redeeman: am I to assume that php4 is the newest 4?
[03:28] <boo> Help: does anyone know what a .cpkg is
[03:28] <SpAwN> well doh!
[03:28] <afabian> Kayde, X can usually do just about anything that WinXP can, as far as driving monitors goes.  (3D acceleration is a different story, may need nvidia or ati and their proprietary drivers).  Try Googling on your laptop's model number and see how others have configured X for it.
[03:29] <LjL> bob: a klik package iinm
[03:29] <Toma-> Kayde: http://disjunkt.com/linux-toshiba-m40x/ scroll down to "Setting-up X"
[03:29] <redeeman> drapelyk: i think it's relatively new, atleast you can be certain there are no security problems
[03:29] <donald> Question: I`m having trouble understanding the installation of Plugger from their websight....is there a more in debpth location for nubies??
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> Dont you normally want to run a LCD at its "designed" res.  anything Higher/Lower can look blury
[03:29] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, the blog I am trying to install uses 4.3+
[03:29] <Kayde> TYYY
[03:29] <redeeman> drapelyk: you should be able to see what version once you apt-get install it
[03:29] <afabian> Dr_Willis, yeah.  Usually called the 'native resolution.'
[03:30] <redeeman> drapelyk: but you could uncomment those repos in sources.list and get php5 (i believe its there)
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> afabian,  yea thats the term :P
[03:30] <yatesy> tft/lcd screens don't go higher than their native res :P
[03:30] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, I see php4-mysql, if i'm going to be using MySQL should I just get that?
[03:31] <drapelyk> redeeman: and if so do I need php4 also?
[03:31] <theblue> !tell dkman about hoary
[03:31] <Toma-> Kayde: HOWEVER, make sure its the right monitor for your laptop. is it a m40x?
[03:31] <yatesy> yes, the former would just be a module
[03:31] <SpAwN> Toma-, is there anything else you would suggest i try?......cuz im pretty clueless as of right now
[03:31] <redeeman> drapelyk: i think so, but im not completely sure
[03:31] <existance> is it possible to have one monitor on an ATI card and another on Nvidia in ubuntu?
[03:31] <rebort> can anyone help me with a longstanding keyboard problem?
[03:31] <redeeman> drapelyk: i gotta go, you should ask someone else in here
[03:31] <drapelyk> redeeman: ok, thanks a bunch
[03:31] <rebort> i describe it in detail http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[03:31] <redeeman> existance: it is in all linux distributions
[03:31] <Toma-> SpAwN: ask these lovely people how to figure out how to see whats using your /dev/dsp. something has been laoded and is "plugging" up the sound system
[03:32] <existance> redeeman: how would i go about doing it then, when i install ATI drivers it uninstalls nvidia, and vice versa
[03:32] <Toma-> the drivers are fine.
[03:32] <redeeman> Toma-: fuser -v /dev/dsp will tell
[03:32] <luisito> hey! what is that Ubuntu Linux 6.04 Flight 1?
[03:32] <Toma-> there u go SpAwN ^^
[03:32] <rebort> nah?
[03:32] <SpAwN>  sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
[03:32] <SpAwN>  returened nothign
[03:32] <redeeman> existance: linux-restricted-modules gives you nvidia kernel module and ati kernel module, then all you gotta install is xorg-driver-fglrx and nvidia-glx
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> I'll just ask:  I am using a 64mb (don't know if it's GeForce or TNT, what have you) and it used to work with the 3d accel. in the last version of Ubuntu.  I gathered the drivers and ran the config command, but it won't work.  Quake3 gave a library/module version mismatch error; glxgears gives this error:
[03:32] <Toma-> same here....
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:32] <FuzzyGhost> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:33] <aSt3raL> im downloading ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:33] <aSt3raL> is there only one install disc?
[03:33] <redeeman> existance: if the standard will uninstall eachother, you might need to pass some arguments to apt-get
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> aSt3raL,  yep.
[03:33] <redeeman> aSt3raL: yes
[03:33] <navarone> Spawn did you turn off the sound server startup in System/Preferences/Sound?
[03:33] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: HOWEVER, make sure its the right monitor for your laptop. is it a m40x?--I dont know
[03:34] <aSt3raL> where can i get a list of packages that come with the install?
[03:34] <SpAwN> navarone, no i didnt its set to load at boot
[03:34] <Toma-> Kayde: is there a little sign on the laptop saying what model it is?
[03:34] <rebort> anyone have ideas about the keyboard issue
[03:34] <navarone> Spawn...try disabling it and see what happens
[03:34] <jhbramlett> pork rules
[03:34] <donald> Question: Could i please get some help with installing Plugger.
[03:34] <existance> redeeman, i don't see a linux-restricted-module for ATI
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Oink?
[03:34] <FuzzyGhost> asteral, the system comes with Synaptic, a package manager
[03:34] <Kayde> yea
[03:34] <navarone> Spawn> and I would think you'd need to reboot...or amybe restart x
[03:34] <SpAwN> k i unchecked start at start up?should i log out or rebbot?
[03:35] <SpAwN> ahh k
[03:35] <jhbramlett> pork is oink-a-delic
[03:35] <SpAwN> brb
[03:35] <existance> redeeman, i already installed linux-restricted-modules-686 for the nvidia driver
[03:35] <FuzzyGhost> If you don't want to apt-get in terminal just use Synaptic.
[03:35] <Toma-> i gtg. cyas
[03:35] <alekz> anyone knows what is gnome-pty-helper process for ?
[03:35] <calc> its there to use memory
[03:35] <Kayde> ps223a-59084
[03:35] <Kayde> ps223a-59084 that is the model
[03:36] <jhbramlett> so, does it jack with the apt system when one builds and installs from tarballs (sources) ?
[03:36] <aSt3raL> for a laptop that has xp and slackware installed, and i want to get rid of slackware and use ubuntu, should i format the linux partition from xp or the install program?
[03:36] <calc> jhbramlett: if you install into /usr it will
[03:36] <aSt3raL> and ideas on that?
[03:36] <rebort> my keyboard doesnt work!
[03:36] <calc> jhbramlett: install into /usr/local or /opt
[03:36] <SpAwN> no sound
[03:37] <Kayde> Toma- Kayde: is there a little sign on the laptop saying what model it is? ps223a-59084 that is the model
[03:37] <rebort> slam bang crash loud noise
[03:37] <jhbramlett> it seems like a pain sometimes to get everything you need in .deb format
[03:37] <aSt3raL> also whats a good size for the partition to install ubuntu and swap file partition?
[03:37] <calc> aSt3raL: minimum for ubuntu is about 2GB
[03:37] <SpAwN> but i can now select oss as a audio output
[03:37] <calc> aSt3raL: swapfile depends on the system
[03:38] <SpAwN> and i hear a little click when i do the sound test...no sound...but it makes a little crackel sound
[03:38] <SpAwN> it didnt do this b4
[03:38] <aSt3raL> 5gb for ubuntu and 1gb for swap file sound good?
[03:38] <calc> aSt3raL: that should be plenty yea
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> 1 gb is a little huge.  :P
[03:39] <aSt3raL> ok
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> but it rarely gets used.
[03:39] <aSt3raL> thanks
[03:39] <calc> aSt3raL: if you want to hibernate you need roughly 1.3x your memory for swap (iirc)
[03:39] <aSt3raL> thats all the questions i have for now ill be around later though :p
[03:39] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, I think i saw something with your name on bash.org
[03:40] <donald> Question: Could i please get some help with the installation of Plugger....their websight doesn`t do much for a nubie.
[03:40] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, this is it i think > http://bash.org/?333425
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  :P
[03:40] <jhbramlett> ubuntu is my first debian-ish distro but, I have to say, it's pretty nice
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> heh
[03:40] <FuzzyGhost> I think I'm just going to downgrade.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  Yep. :P
[03:40] <Epix> Anyone know of a USB device that handles audio inputs? Something like a Firepod but USB. Its gotta work on ubuntu!
[03:41] <FuzzyGhost> Thanks anyway.
[03:41] <DapperDan> is firefox 1.5 availble in ubuntu?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  i wonder what happened to that Force feedback mouse..
[03:41] <DapperDan> can I just update and install?
[03:41] <eternalist> Dr_Willis, haha
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> eternalist,  it was sort of a gimicky mouse.
[03:41] <SpAwN> i wonder why mandriva is the only linux that my sound actualy works on
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> it would 'vibrate' when moving over icons and so forth.
[03:41] <Agrajag> DapperDan: not until Dapper comes out
[03:41] <Kayde> I HAVE TO GO, thanks 4 ur help...but none of it realy helped ty anyway :)
[03:42] <calc> DapperDan: not yet
[03:42] <Agrajag> Breezy has 1.0.7
[03:42] <calc> dapper has 1.5rc3
[03:42] <DapperDan> durn
[03:42] <Agrajag> calc: no it doesn;t.
[03:42] <DapperDan> I w ill download it
[03:42] <DapperDan> and install it myself!
[03:42] <Agrajag> it has 1.0.7
[03:42] <DapperDan> damn it
[03:42] <calc> Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3
[03:42] <DapperDan> ffs
[03:42] <donald> I have to go as well....thanks for all the help.
[03:42] <calc> sure looks like 1.5rc3 to me
[03:42] <Agrajag> calc: where is that from?
[03:42] <calc> Filename: pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[03:42] <calc> dapper amd64
[03:43] <Agrajag> calc: oh ojh dpaper
[03:43] <Agrajag> see this is what happens when I don't sleep
[03:43] <calc> Agrajag: hehe
[03:43] <jhbramlett> check this: I got breezy running pretty well on a 300mhz PII  - 64 mb ram laptop
[03:44] <jhbramlett> (server type install, xfce windows manager, dillo web browser)
[03:44] <jhbramlett> runs fast
[03:44] <Epix> ?
[03:44] <coz> hello all
[03:45] <coz> problem here
[03:45] <coz>  For some reason several things fro uninstalled
[03:45] <coz> en_US:en    LC_ALL    en_US.UTF-8
[03:45] <coz> how do I reinstall these?
[03:46] <Howie> Test
[03:46] <navarone> Spawn...in System/Preferences/Sound waht sound device does it say it is using? I am using a sb live and it says "CA0106"
[03:46] <morphix> jhbramlett: i have ubuntu running on my other p4 & also my old old celeron 366mhz 192mb ram lol runs perfect on both.
[03:46] <Varanger> hello
[03:46] <SpAwN> navarone,  intel ich6
[03:46] <jhbramlett> firefox runs too slow for my system tho
[03:47] <calc> firefox eats ram like candy
[03:47] <Varanger> does someone know what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile ?
[03:47] <navarone> Spawn> Any other option ind rop down?
[03:47] <daniel_s> i have just installed ubuntu and the display is shifted to the right be about 5 pixels - any suggestions on how to fix this? i have tried using 'xvidtune' to no avail
[03:47] <SpAwN> navarone,  nope
[03:47] <calc> its currently using over 300MB on my system, usually its much higher
[03:47] <SpAwN> only that one
[03:47] <jhbramlett> this crazy dillo browser is super-fast (but very limited functionality)
[03:48] <jhbramlett> dillo ram footprint is like 350kb
[03:48] <morphix> jhbramlett: there must be something wrong.. cause i can do everything on the celeron 366mhz that i can do on the p4..
[03:48] <morphix> and firefox runs smooth for me on both.
[03:48] <jhbramlett> I only got 64 mb ram
[03:48] <navarone> dillo?
[03:48] <calc> jhbramlett: yea 64mb ram would be painful with firefox
[03:48] <MickMcMack> morphix, you wouldn't be able to do any raytracing on that 366 though, would you?
[03:48] <durt> firefox 1.5 is still slow on 512mb ram
[03:48] <morphix> make a larger swap partition
[03:48] <Delvien> Ok i have this vmware-instal.pl how do i run it???????
[03:49] <morphix> MickMcMack: i dont even know what that is.
[03:49] <theCore> jhbramlett: use epiphany over firefox
[03:49] <coz> when installing something the terminal says that three things are missing and must be reinstalled
[03:49] <jhbramlett> I also run ubuntu on a two-dual-core x86_64 machine with 2+ gb ram (with raided fast sata2 drives).......... that works well too.
[03:49] <theCore> jhbramlett: epip got all the feature of firefox but it's way faster
[03:49] <coz> LC_ALL     en_US:en     en_US.UTF-8
[03:49] <navarone> Spawn> uninstall polaudio and install esound
[03:49] <jhbramlett> hmmmm.... I'll check it out
[03:49] <navarone> polyaudio
[03:50] <SpAwN> navarone, i already have
[03:50] <coz> I tried polyaudio it screwed things up for me but it really sounded good
[03:50] <SpAwN> ive read alot of threads and tried alot of thing
[03:50] <coz> anyone know how to reinstall these three missing elements?
[03:50] <calc> i don't have speed problems with firefox on my system, it just uses huge amounts of ram
[03:51] <SpAwN> i cant even find polyaudio in synaptic
[03:51] <XiCillin> anybody know how to play dvds in mplayer? every time i go to the device it just opens up to the files instaed of playing htem
[03:51] <Agrajag> you mean polypaudio?
[03:51] <coz> polyaudio isn't in synaptic
[03:51] <SpAwN> yes
[03:51] <navarone> Spawn> this thread may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75581.html
[03:51] <jhbramlett> epiphany requires gnome? (I'm running the smaller, faster xfce)
[03:51] <SpAwN> maby i should uninstall esd and install polypautio
[03:51] <Varanger> does someone know what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile ?
[03:52] <morphix> openbox ;)
[03:52] <daniel_s> Varanger: i think bash_profile is run whenever you start a terminal
[03:52] <pepsi> boo!
[03:52] <navarone> Look for the Beastboy entry
[03:52] <Varanger> daniel_s: and .bashrc ?
[03:52] <navarone> Maybe you have to do complete removal of the polyaudio thingy...<?>
[03:53] <daniel_s> bashrc is run when bash is executed is some other way - e.g. if you write 'bash <command>'
[03:53] <Epix> is there anything that will do this?
[03:53] <XiCillin> anybody get dvd's to run in mplayer? without it opening it up as a directory?
[03:54] <daniel_s> i have just installed ubuntu and the display is shifted to the right be about 5 pixels - any suggestions on how to fix this? i have tried using 'xvidtune' to no avail
[03:54] <SpAwN> yea navarone i read that and when i went to uninstall polyp....i looked in synaptic and it wasnt installed and esd was already installed?
[03:54] <navarone> hmmm...maybe you need polypaudio then...<shrug>
[03:54] <SpAwN> ill give it a go
[03:55] <MickMcMack> DAMN YOU!
[03:55] <MickMcMack> :(
[03:55] <MickMcMack> Ubuntu just installed the jdk1.4.2 over my 1.5 installation.
[03:55] <XiCillin> daniel_s try auto adjust on your monitor
[03:55] <MickMcMack> And it will not go away!
[03:55] <SpAwN> well ill brb
[03:56] <daniel_s> XiCillin: its on a laptop so no auto-adjust available afaik
[03:56] <jasongrieves> join #ubuntu-accessibility
[03:56] <jasongrieves> oops
[03:56] <jasongrieves> heheh
[03:56] <SoulPropagation> where do i put mplayer codecs
[03:56] <parvex> mmm
[03:57] <parvex> holas
[03:57] <jasongrieves> that's what happens when ur working until 9 PM
[03:57] <parvex> hola
[03:57] <parvex> disculp'en alguien save si hay msn para ubuntu
[03:57] <parvex> hola
[03:57] <SoulPropagation> !es
[03:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <SoulPropagation> parvex: que ubotu habl
[03:58] <pygrammer> hey, how can I fix my network initialization?
[03:58] <parvex> 5.10
[03:58] <pygrammer> when ubuntu was installed, somehow my two NICs weren't configured right (wireless and right)
[03:58] <pygrammer> *wired
[03:58] <deang> Can anyone suggest a good, and appropriate, text based adventure for my 7 year old?
[03:58] <MickMcMack> Ubuntu KILLED my Java. :|
[03:58] <pygrammer> and lo doesn't even initialize correctly
[03:58] <pygrammer> it's mapped to nothing
[03:59] <pygrammer> so it doesn't know itself :P
[03:59] <parvex> mm gracias
[03:59] <parvex> necesito ayuda
[03:59] <pygrammer> and eth1 isn't initialized eiter
[03:59] <pygrammer> *either
[03:59] <parvex> quieron un msn
[03:59] <parvex> para ubuntu
[03:59] <pygrammer> so i'm wondering how i'd set that up ... i can't find the appropriate files
[03:59] <pygrammer> i want dhclient to do it on boot-up
[03:59] <Villa> hi
[03:59] <SoulPropagation> parvex: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:59] <SoulPropagation> es canal en espanol
[04:01] <SoulPropagation> parvex: comprende?
[04:02] <SpAwN> well i installed polypaudio and still have no sound
[04:03] <SpAwN> this stinks i dont want to go back to mandriva yet....i realy wanted to try ubuntu
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> You have unmuted the sound mixer? :P
[04:04] <cenopec> how do i mount my optical drive
[04:04] <cenopec> in terminal
[04:04] <SpAwN> well i have unmuted everything i think
[04:04] <DapperDan> Crouching python Hidden elephant - python.projects.postgresql.org
[04:04] <SoulPropagation> cenopec: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[04:04] <cenopec> sudo mount /dev/
[04:04] <cenopec> k
[04:04] <DapperDan> "LAMP" is overated. I use LAPP... and sometimes LARP!
[04:04] <eternalist> LAMP's the shiz
[04:05] <zack> SpAwN: http://www.nabble.com/Bug-339589:-ftp.debian.org:-Please-remove-polypaudio-t569920.html
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> LARP? -
[04:05] <DapperDan> I've found LAPP and LARP to be better ;)
[04:05] <eternalist> how about WIMP
[04:05] <eternalist> Windows IIS Mysql and PHP
[04:05] <eternalist> ahah
[04:05] <DapperDan> Linux, Apache, Ruby, Postgresql
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> thats reminds me of getting smacked with a wooden sword by a large amazon.
[04:05] <eternalist> Ruby is so underrated eh
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Live Action Role Playing. :P
[04:06] <cenopec> how do i open the cdrom drive from terminal
[04:06] <darkgamer20> I would really like to thank the Ubuntu community for making such a great distribution! THANK YOU!
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> We are getting way too many anacronams these days
[04:06] <navarone> Spawn are you ona  alptop?
[04:06] <SpAwN> no
[04:06] <navarone> laptop
[04:06] <SoulPropagation> where do i put mplayer codecs
[04:06] <clint-> hi all
[04:06] <navarone> hmm
[04:06] <SpAwN> a dell dimension 8400
[04:06] <jsubl2> navarone: /usr/lib/win32
[04:07] <navarone> huh?
[04:07] <badmacktuck> hello all
[04:07] <SoulPropagation> jsubl2: i'm not navarone : )
[04:07] <clint-> I'm back with ubuntu as well.. hardware detection works awesome, on this Acer Aspire 3610, 3613 WLCi actually. but going to edit /etc/fstab
[04:08] <clint-> I have 4 operating systems on my notebook... :)
[04:08] <badmacktuck> are php and mysql installed in breezy by default? if not what are the packages called?
[04:08] <SoulPropagation> clint-: have fun
[04:08] <navarone> Spawn...in System/Preferences/sound does it have anyhting about external amplifier? The thread I read involves a laptop with that as a prob...but maybe it is in yours as well...<s>
[04:08] <clint-> i do :-)
[04:08] <dpupp> wow... kde looks nice.
[04:08] <aedes> has anyone used cupsaddsmb?  I'm getting a WERR_ACCESS_DENIED
[04:09] <SpAwN> no nothing about external
[04:09] <navarone> Spawn> in the volume control rather...sry
[04:09] <SpAwN> no
[04:09] <dpupp> what are files that end in ~ for example: todolist~
[04:09] <jhbramlett> wow epiphany is fast on a low resources machine
[04:09] <darkgamer20> is there a ubuntu HCL?
[04:09] <SpAwN> still nothing about external
[04:09] <dpupp> or 404.htm.txt~
[04:10] <knopf> hi. how can I install a specific package? I need to install gcc-3.4.4
[04:10] <knopf> apt-get install gcc-3.4.4 does not work
[04:10] <navarone> Spawn> maybe in edit/prefernces in volume control?
[04:10] <yuri> hi. I need some quick help if someone wouldn't mind. I have a .TTF font file. what directory do i put it on so that openoffice would see it?
[04:10] <dpupp> is it save to delete files ending in filename.txt~
[04:10] <clint-> knopf,
[04:10] <clint-> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4.4
[04:11] <SpAwN> ahh i see it
[04:11] <SpAwN> i selected it
[04:11] <clint-> first update though..
[04:11] <knopf> clint, it says: couldn't find package
[04:11] <clint-> 1 sec
[04:11] <knopf> clint, even after an update
[04:11] <navarone> Spawn uncheck the external thingy
[04:11] <SpAwN> allright i just unchecked it
[04:12] <SpAwN> the way it orignaly was
[04:12] <badmacktuck> anybody know about breezy and php/mysql?
[04:12] <navarone> Sapwn here is the thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1951256#post1951256   <--- bb002 entry
[04:12] <knopf> clint, ah i see, it only has gcc-3.3
[04:12] <SpAwN> allright thanks navarone
[04:12] <navarone> Dunno if it will help
[04:13] <SpAwN> i hope it does
[04:13] <darkgamer20> is there a ubuntu HCL?
[04:13] <navarone> btw Spawn...did you try the alsamixer in terminal to see if volumes were muted?
[04:14] <clint-> k
[04:14] <clint-> I'm working with eding my /etc/fstab
[04:14] <clint-> kind of busy right now.. someone will help ya though
[04:14] <SpAwN> yes i did navarone
[04:17] <SpAwN> brb
[04:17] <clint-> k.. anyone know how I can work in the GUI with editing configuration files?
[04:17] <SoulPropagation> clint-: gedit
[04:17] <djk_> kdesu kwrite for example..
[04:17] <clint-> tryin
[04:18] <djk_> eh, gksu gedit if you're using gnome.
[04:18] <clint-> k
[04:18] <Villa> anyone ever try to run ubuntu an an IBM iSeries?
[04:18] <clint-> that will let me make changes?
[04:18] <clint-> and save them
[04:19] <clint-> I took and copied what knoppix had, and I tought myself a couple things.. wanting to mount ntfs.. and dvd.. and other things :)
[04:20] <djk_> yes, you'll be able to make changes and save them.
[04:20] <clint-> ty
[04:20] <djk_> yw
[04:20] <rebort> can anyone take a look at http://nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/#comments
[04:21] <rebort> errr nevermind that...
[04:21] <rebort> this: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[04:21] <cornflake> does anyone know how to downgrade a system?
[04:21] <clint-> brb
[04:21] <morphix> is there a way to change the default highlighted os choice in GRUB?
[04:21] <morphix> so instead of being default highlighted on ubuntu i can make it another.
[04:22] <cornflake> morphix, yes... try man grub
[04:24] <djk_> rebort: hehe, nice bug.
[04:25] <dodgyville> Hello
[04:25] <clint-> k now , this is messed up, asking me to enter password to unlock keyring
[04:25] <oblib> Trying to work my parallel port scanner and I get this error:scanimage: open of device plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 failed: Error during device I/O
[04:25] <oblib> Any help?
[04:27] <blackraven14250> I'm trying to run updates, but what is the sudo password set to as default? I've entered what I have for root about 6 times already, and blank, and it won't work.
[04:27] <SpAwN> damn well im just about out of ideas to get sound working
[04:27] <clint-> your user password Black_Hat
[04:27] <morphix> lol.
[04:27] <clint-> blackraven14250,
[04:27] <clint-> yeah.. I systems get locked up sometings. .what another good thing you can sometimes do is..  su -
[04:27] <Varanger> I have installed wine (sudo apt-get install wine)
[04:28] <Varanger> how can I configure it ??
[04:28] <clint-> djk_,
[04:28] <clint-> did that. but asked for keyring
[04:28] <Varanger> If I install winesetuptk, it wants to uninstall wine
[04:28] <clint-> Varanger,
[04:28] <navarone> sry spawn...me too
[04:28] <clint-> VMware or win4lin.. or codeweavers
[04:28] <cenopec> can someone please help me
[04:28] <clint-> Wine isn't all that great yet.. :-)
[04:28] <cenopec> my comp is going to hell
[04:29] <SpAwN> yea i think imma go install a diff distro ........:(
[04:29] <cenopec> my floppy light is always on, but does not work and i cant mount it
[04:29] <clint-> what you want it for
[04:29] <SpAwN> i realy wanted to use ubuntu too
[04:29] <navarone> Spwan...you can get a pci card and disable onboard sound
[04:29] <clint-> I know.. I chose ubuntu because of its great hardware support
[04:29] <cenopec> i cant mount my cd rom anymore as well, but that gives no response
[04:29] <SpAwN> yea im not gonna go but another sound card if this one works
[04:29] <_jason> does anyone know how to enable auto-repeat on mouse buttons? (similar to how when you hold down a letter on your keyboard it repeats instead of just one letter appearing)
[04:29] <clint-> I use others.. Its the laptop.. its a punk. and new being...
[04:30] <SpAwN> i dont got the income too
[04:30] <navarone> I hear ya Spawn
[04:30] <PorcupineTree> do we see ubuntu getting a newer version of GhostscriptESP soon?
[04:30] <navarone> Spawn...but SB live is like 40 bucks Canadian at staples
[04:30] <cenopec> PLEASE
[04:30] <SpAwN> well i might try somthing else if i find it....but umm thanks everyone for ya help
[04:30] <clint-> I have Xandros , Linspire 5.0, FreeBSD 6.0, PC BSD, Mandriva 2006 screwed up my network, Fedora Core 4 had synaptic touchpad problems,  PHLAK, Mandrake 10.0 was first.. Red Hat 9 is worthless.. Fedora Core 1 is outdated..
[04:31] <SpAwN> hehe yea
[04:31] <SpAwN> well it works in xp and mandriva
[04:31] <clint-> tried Suse 10.0 but it had an error.. and I wasn't happy about that either, but I might give it another try
[04:31] <blackraven14250> clint-, i don't get what you mean.
[04:31] <SpAwN> so ill just use one of them i guess
[04:31] <navarone> okay...best stay with that then...maybe wait for better support in new realease
[04:31] <clint-> well I run more than 1 on this notebook
[04:31] <navarone> brb
[04:31] <SpAwN> yea
[04:32] <clint-> Windows XP Professional, Xandros Business 3.0, which I stripped.. and Ubuntu.. and also .. PC BSD
[04:32] <Varanger> clint-: what's the difference between Hoary's wine and Breezy's wine?
[04:32] <clint-> your asking the wrong person.. :-)
[04:32] <cenopec> some one please help me i dontknow what to do
[04:33] <badmacktuck> anyone here know how to setup mysql on a breezy box?
[04:33] <natdigga> What's a free windoze emulator I can install easily?
[04:34] <blackraven14250> does anoyne here know what the default password is for sudo and gksudo?
[04:34] <cenopec> PLEASE HELP, MY COMP IS DYING
[04:34] <james_> cenopec-don't yell
[04:34] <SpAwN> well im gonna go reinstall a diff os....i appreciate the help and hopfully ill get back in here when i can my sound to work on ubuntu :D pz out
[04:35] <cenopec> james_: well no one will help and i cant use any periphs right now
[04:35] <Blissex> cenopec: describe your problem...
[04:36] <cenopec> k first my floppy drive will not work, the light is on, but when i try to mount it in the terminal and in browser window, neither seems to work
[04:36] <cenopec> in terminal nothing happened and no new command prompt apears it just doesnt do anything
[04:37] <clint-> lmfao I just saved my fstab :D
[04:37] <clint-> now all partitions on my notebook gettin mounted automatically :D
[04:37] <cenopec> now my dvdrw is pulling the same thing
[04:37] <Blissex> cenopec: try the 'dmesg' command to see if it says something like error messages...
[04:37] <clint-> and I did this myself.. gksu gedit didn't work worth crap
[04:37] <clint-> -> sudo gedit
[04:37] <cenopec> k
[04:37] <clint-> brb all
[04:37] <jason0_> I'm installing ubuntu right, I've gotten to the grub part. I already have fc4 and windows on /dev/hda1, but it only lists XP. I'm assuming its not safe to install grub?
[04:37] <clint-> I am going see if this works :D
[04:38] <clint-> jason0_,
[04:38] <clint-> install Acronis Disk Director Suite 9 bud
[04:38] <cenopec> seems like mostly I\O errors
[04:38] <clint-> thats what I use, and I run over 5 operating systems*
[04:38] <cenopec> but there are tons
[04:38] <JaZyLNX> how can i search for a process i started i need to do it through command so i can kill it( i'm the user who started it)
[04:38] <iRonWindows> here's a weird issue... I just installed Breezy Badger, and there is nothing to config a wireless card... ndiswrapper does its thing, but wlancfg just hangs (or maybe i'm not patient enough)
[04:39] <jason0_> anyone else?
[04:39] <iRonWindows> i had to apt those btw
[04:39] <clint-> jason
[04:39] <cenopec> any idea?
[04:39] <clint-> use Acronis Disk Director Suite 9!!!
[04:39] <clint-> be back all
[04:39] <lampshade> JaZyLNX:  ps -A | grep programname
[04:39] <cenopec> could it be a hardware error, ie, bad ide cable?
[04:41] <chapium> whats the name of that account management software
[04:41] <chapium> sorry, thats wrong
[04:41] <JaZyLNX> tecknogod or dvs here?
[04:41] <chapium> its similar to quicken
[04:41] <JaZyLNX> thanks lampshade
[04:41] <chapium> gsomething
[04:42] <Amaranth> chapium: gnucash
[04:42] <chapium> the gnu equivalent to quicken/ms-money
[04:42] <chapium> thanks!
[04:42] <chapium> couldnt think of it for the life of me
[04:43] <chapium> is gnucash not in the ubuntu repos?
[04:43] <iRonWindows> i read about that "windows wireless driver" app, how do I install that without a network connection?
[04:43] <chapium> seems like it would be of all things that are actually in ther
[04:43] <clint-> k.. that didn't work. .erm
[04:44] <jsubl2> !find gnucash
[04:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'gnucash' (3 shown): gnucash ;; gnucash-common ;; gnucash-docs.
[04:44] <alekz> if i install ssh server what else i should do to users can access my server?
[04:44] <clint-> anyone know how I can mount my ntfs paritition. hda1 etc. which Has my music on it. and books I like to read.. dam fstab didnt' work.. argh
[04:44] <chapium> hmm
[04:44] <chapium> insterstingly its not in the add application thingy
[04:45] <jason0_> clint-: d/l the ntfs kernel modules.
[04:45] <clint-> k
[04:45] <clint-> how I go about doing that
[04:45] <jsubl2> chapium: use synaptic
[04:45] <clint-> there should be a way right. to get into root, and then enable in Disks options. where it says . incessible. thats bs
[04:45] <chapium> jsteidl, i'm trying to stick to one package manager
[04:46] <jsubl2> clint-: sudo modprobe ntfs
[04:47] <Amaranth> chapium: apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic all use the same backend
[04:47] <clint-> k
[04:47] <chapium> hmm, ok
[04:47] <insipid> it really necessary to chroot for certain binaries such as cageda when using the amd64 kernel?  doesnt the 32-bit libraries suffice?
[04:47] <chapium> why would the ubuntu team hide it?  I wasn't aware of any politics
[04:47] <clint-> nothing happens
[04:47] <chapium> and its stable enough for fedora
[04:48] <insipid> Amaranth, dpkg i presume?
[04:48] <jsubl2> clint you need to install linux-restricted-`uname -r`
[04:48] <clint-> chapium, , we all just have to work together
[04:48] <clint-> ah
[04:48] <Amaranth> insipid: yep
[04:48] <chapium> clint-, no magic bullet yet i suppose
[04:48] <clint-> k... just tell me what apt to install
[04:49] <clint-> well I tried using the knoppix fstab. configuration had.   :-)
[04:49] <natdigga> Question...I can't run edubuntu in the same install as breezy 5.10 ubuntu?
[04:49] <clint-> its amazing,, Xandros, Linspire, Knoppix.. gee you systems are ma fav :D
[04:49] <insipid> Synaptic is quite an impressive GUI...
[04:49] <clint-> but not so dam great for my laptop hardware detection :-)
[04:50] <clint-> hey I did the gksu gedit, but it ask for a keyring
[04:51] <oblib> Trying to work my parallel port scanner and I get this error:   scanimage: open of device plustek_pp:/dev/lp0 failed: Error during device I/O
[04:51] <oblib> Any help?
[04:51] <chapium> i noticed ubuntu installed gnome-bittorent by default.  Is it used in any special way by the distribution?
[04:51] <Kayde> ubuntu problem with toshiba satellite ps223a 59084 laptop-screen has vertical fuzzy lines
[04:52] <snorks> How does drivers work in vmware?
[04:52] <chapium> snorks, i'm using vmware right now, what do you mean?
[04:52] <snorks> Like, directx and graphic card drivers, if installed on a vmware machine running windows XP
[04:52] <snorks> chapium: I don't quite get it
[04:52] <snorks> chapium: Is it another resort than Cedega?
[04:53] <snorks> chapium: If one is a gamer?
[04:53] <La_PaRCa> hey kinds
[04:53] <snorks> a linux computer running windows xp in vmware is what i mean
[04:53] <chapium> snorks, vmware probably wont enable any high end games since its such a resouce hog
[04:53] <chapium> snorks, supposedly starcraft works in it though
[04:53] <snorks> okey
[04:53] <snorks> thanks chap :)
[04:54] <oblib> anyone used MythTV in Ubuntu?
[04:54] <snorks> i will use it for other issues though
[04:54] <chapium> snorks, thats all i know, haven't tried it myself :D
[04:54] <snorks> chapium: You gave me exactly what I wanted to know
[04:55] <snorks> What version should I buy if I wanna test windows xp clients up against smb/ldap solutions?
[04:55] <chapium> snorks, one thing is for sure.. vmware uses quite a bit of ram.  You can configure how much though
[04:55] <snorks> vmware workstation?
[04:55] <chapium> snorks, i'm using the player actually
[04:55] <somedude> ubuntu is a word from south africa or something n stuff
[04:55] <snorks> chapium: I need to create the "images"
[04:56] <chapium> snorks, i'll get you a liink in 5 seconds for that
[04:58] <jimmyhends> does ubuntu install sshd
[04:58] <JaZyLNX> you can always apt-get it
[04:58] <JaZyLNX> but i beleve it does
[04:59] <rebort> djk_: you know anything about the bug?
[04:59] <chapium> jimmyhends, i think i remember having to enable it
[04:59] <thoreauputic> jimmyhends: not by default - install openssh-serer
[04:59] <thoreauputic> *server
[04:59] <FireRabbit> are the images used for the official ubuntu cds avaliable online somewhere?
[04:59] <clint-> so this?
[04:59] <clint-> apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7?
[04:59] <rebort> its been plaguing me for a long time
[04:59] <rebort> i havent been able to use gnome
[05:00] <rebort> djk_: i really cant seem to solve it a few things that sometimes worked to fix the problem no longer do. and why would they only sometimes work I wonder.
[05:01] <rebort> that's the strangest thing
[05:01] <clint-> k.. well it looks like Suse Linux 10.0 now
[05:01] <clint-> cya you all later... :)
[05:01] <Kayde> WTF is Gedit?!
[05:01] <clint-> bye bye ubuntu :-)
[05:01] <Kayde> WTF is Gedit?!
[05:01] <rebort> Kayde: a text editor
[05:01] <Kayde> how do i acces?
[05:01] <JaZyLNX> gedit
[05:01] <rebort> what clint- ?
[05:01] <clint-> its a graphic user interface to edit config files Kayde .. etc.
[05:01] <rebort> access what?
[05:01] <nicholaspaul> Am i the only one who has trouble installing WINE from the repositories?
[05:01] <Kayde> ubuntu?
[05:02] <rebort> go to programs>accessories>gedit
[05:02] <clint-> I am leavin... ty
[05:02] <rebort> programs>accessories>text editor rather
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> or just run
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> gedit
[05:02] <rebort> suse is pretty nice clint-
[05:02] <Kayde> i dont have
[05:02] <clint-> I'll let you all know how Suse goes on my laptop .. :-)
[05:02] <clint-> ty rebort
[05:02] <clint-> ty
[05:02] <rebort> you dont have gedit?
[05:02] <nicholaspaul> rebort - how is suse on ppc?
[05:02] <clint-> I like it too
[05:02] <clint-> :)
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> you don't have run app?
[05:02] <Kayde> no...
[05:02] <clint-> I don't just use 1 OS
[05:02] <JaZyLNX> install it
[05:03] <Kayde> its not under accesorys
[05:03] <clint-> Windows XP Pro, Xandros Business 3.0, PC BSD, etc
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here any good using WINE?
[05:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here get quake 4 demo to run?
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> use apt to get it
[05:03] <rebort> nicholaspaul: never used it on ppc
[05:03] <clint-> see ya though
[05:03] <Kayde> apt?
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> oh ok rebort.
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Kayde: open a terminal and type   gedit   (it's installed by default, unless you have Kubuntu
[05:03] <rebort> nicholaspaul: or x86 for that matter but a few friends have really liked it
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> kayde - sudo apt-get install [nameofprog]
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> use synaptic Kayde
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> just search for gedit
[05:03] <JaZyLNX> and install
[05:03] <nicholaspaul> rebort. oh ok . i'm looking for something that is better supported on ppc
[05:04] <rebort> djk_: you know anything about that bug? ahhhh
[05:04] <rumplefor> could anybody help me with a small C language program?
[05:04] <JaZyLNX> yeah rumplefor
[05:04] <rebort> nicholaspaul: what are your problems with ubuntu ppc?
[05:04] <JaZyLNX> c or c++?
[05:04] <rebort> ruminator: maybe
[05:04] <rumplefor> just C
[05:04] <rebort> rumplefor: maybe,
[05:04] <Trashcan> what's the problem?
[05:04] <Trashcan> btw, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <insipid> when working with a package manager i cant resolve archive.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <rebort> can anyone help me with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[05:05] <insipid> for example after reloading synaptic
[05:05] <rumplefor> my program doesnt work.
[05:05] <ulinskie> got a q.  how can I turn of the animation when I am minimizing my window so that my system will run faster?
[05:05] <aedes> has anyone here ever setup a shared printer via samba?
[05:05] <Trashcan> rumplefor: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:05] <rebort> ulinskie: that is in gnome?
[05:05] <insipid> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[05:06] <rebort> its up here
[05:06] <insipid> i wonder why i cant resolve it
[05:06] <rebort> does it resolve in firefox?
[05:07] <insipid> oh wait a second check this out.. haha.. http://.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not resolve '.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:07] <insipid> notice how that . is there, i bet that is the problem...
[05:07] <insipid> interesting considering that was left untouched, i let the installer handle all that
[05:07] <rebort> i really want gnome back, anyone for http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479?
[05:07] <rebort> remove that ? from the end...
[05:08] <ulinskie> got a q.  how can I turn of the animation when I am minimizing my window so that my system will run faster?
[05:08] <rebort> ulinskie: do you use gnome?
[05:09] <Varanger> how can I make a iso file with dd ? dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/archivo.iso ??
[05:09] <sethk> ulinskie, wrong question.  first question is:  is the animation still running when you minimize the window?
[05:09] <sethk> ulinskie, and the answer is highly likely to be:  no
[05:09] <ulinskie> yes I am running gnome
[05:09] <ulinskie> yes...
[05:09] <rebort> ulinskie: i think you can with kde ill check for gnome...
[05:10] <ulinskie> the animation still runs when I minimize my window
[05:10] <insipid> also... another thing that i don't understand.. i can su root then insert password and everything works nicely.. however i cant sudo <blah blah> because when i insert the root password it tells me Sorry, try again.  However, the password I insert IS the root password and it DOES work when using the su command
[05:10] <sethk> ulinskie, how do you know that?
[05:10] <sethk> insipid, use your password, not the root password
[05:10] <ulinskie> it produces a frame sequence of the window sized when I minimize the window
[05:10] <thoreauputic> !tell insipid about sudo
[05:11] <insipid> oh that sounds safe, everyone gets superuser privs
[05:11] <Pablo> err... can someone help please
[05:11] <Pablo>  Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:11] <xkahn> insipid: no.
[05:11] <rebort> Pablo: sure, i'll try
[05:11] <Pablo> ok
[05:11] <thoreauputic> insipid: no, only the first user
[05:11] <xkahn> insipid: only people in the "admin" group.
[05:11] <thoreauputic> bydefault
[05:11] <chapium> isnt it only the first user specified?
[05:11] <sethk> insipid, it of course isn't at all safe.  However, you can set sudo up properly with the visudo command
[05:11] <rebort> Pablo: what are you trying to compile?
[05:11] <insipid> thanks
[05:11] <Pablo> qwireless
[05:11] <Pablo> rebort
[05:11] <sethk> chapium, I think that's the default, yes.
[05:12] <rebort> why do you need qwireless?
[05:12] <chapium> so it might be wise to create a new user outside of the admin group for general usage?
[05:12] <xkahn> actually, can someone test something for me?
[05:12] <rebort> Pablo: there are newer, better programs I think
[05:12] <Pablo> rebort, I wanted to try it out before I put it on my ipaq
[05:12] <xkahn> can they create a test user
[05:12] <Pablo> what is better?
[05:12] <sethk> chapium, yes, I think that's prudent
[05:13] <me_> I've recentlry intalled ubuntu on an older computer at home but the sound isn't working.  Can anyone in here help me find out if/how I can get sound working?
[05:13] <xkahn> And then run: su -i -u thetestusertheycreated
[05:13] <xkahn> And see if X applications work?
[05:13] <xkahn> like gedit?
[05:13] <Pablo> rebort, have you used qwireless before?
[05:13] <rebort> Pablo: no, only kwifimanager
[05:13] <rebort> Pablo: you need the qt2 dev libraries
[05:13] <Pablo> ok
[05:14] <Pablo> let me tryit
[05:14] <insipid> alright its still problematic: http://archive.ubuntu.com/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:14] <chapium> so another small question:  why can't gnome-games be removed?
[05:14] <rebort> try http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz insipid :)
[05:15] <rebort> Pablo: I don't know if those libraries are available in synaptic
[05:15] <thoreauputic> insipid: yes I get a 404 too
[05:15] <Pablo> rebort, will qt3 not work?
[05:15] <P8ntKid> How do you extract a tar.bz2 file?
[05:15] <rebort> i'm not sure, it may
[05:15] <me_> Is it possible to turn .deb files into .rpm files?  I've heard of this before.  Here is the site with and rpm driver for my sound card:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/install.php?PHPSESSID=7552ba17f2c586e820c224456c398619
[05:15] <Pablo> ok
[05:15] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid:  tar xvjf <file>
[05:15] <Pablo> I will get qt2
[05:15] <me_> sorry, rpm into deb
[05:15] <rebort> try getting those
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> me_, use alien
[05:16] <La_PaRCa> me_, man alien
[05:16] <Pablo> then come back if I have a problem... thanks rebort
[05:16] <rebort> Pablo: i'm not sure where you'dget those
[05:16] <rumplefor> o crap i orgot to sroll down!
[05:16] <xiO_> anyone know why my ubuntu 5.1 would fail with a repeated "Killed" command referring to debianconf?
[05:17] <insipid> rebort:  this is in my sources.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:17] <me_> La_PaRCa - is alien available for ubuntu?
[05:17] <insipid> i should add /ubuntu?
[05:17] <rebort> insipid: in mine too
[05:17] <La_PaRCa> me_, yeah
[05:17] <thoreauputic> !info alien
[05:17] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[05:17] <rebort> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:18] <chapium> i think i see why gnucash is hidden in ubuntu
[05:18] <rebort> yeah
[05:18] <chapium> perhaps it has to do with it not being gtk2 yet?
[05:18] <rebort> Pablo: search qt3 in synaptic, look at the results
[05:18] <insipid> rebort, appreciate it... interestingly enough this was how it came by default.. i did not change anything in the installer
[05:18] <xiO_> during install, that is
[05:18] <rebort> insipid: backports isnt in the installer, it may have been from automatix or something
[05:19] <rebort> id really love to fix http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 if anyone can help
[05:20] <twidget> What does this mean? "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[05:20] <twidget> Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
[05:20] <twidget> "
[05:20] <rebort> twidget: what were you trying to run
[05:21] <chapium> twidget, what program?
[05:21] <twidget> OS boot
[05:21] <twidget> Breezy
[05:21] <twidget> Something about GNOME config cannot be saved
[05:21] <ulinskie> anybody knows the ans. to my question?
[05:21] <rebort> twidget: i don't really know, corba is something gnome uses for some low-level purpose i think
[05:22] <rebort> twidget: does everything work
[05:22] <rebort> ulinskie: what was your ?
[05:22] <twidget> rebort, seems to. Net connection seems really slow. I don't know if there's a connection.
[05:22] <ulinskie> how can I take the animation off when I minimize my window
[05:23] <rebort> are you using that computer now?
[05:23] <rebort> ulinskie: in gnome, i dont think you can
[05:23] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: When i did that, it cluttered up my home folder with files :( how to I make it so it makes its own folder?
[05:23] <ulinskie> oic... thanks
[05:23] <me_> ok, I just installed alien.  I'm gonna download the rpm sound driver and see it gets the sound to work.
[05:23] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: oh, that means the guty  who made the file buggered it up
[05:23] <rebort> ulinskie:
[05:24] <rumplefor> http://pastebin.com/445785
[05:24] <rumplefor> oops srry
[05:24] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: best to untar in /home/you/tmp or similar
[05:24] <rebort> ulinskie: launch gconf-editor, go to /apps/metacity/general and check reduced_resources
[05:24] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: How did I do that?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: that's really irritating when the person who makes the tarball doesn't tar the directory properly
[05:25] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: it wasn't you, unless you created the file
[05:25] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Yep.
[05:25] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Lol, no it wasnt me.
[05:26] <clemslacker> hello
[05:26] <rebort> ulinskie: that work for you?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: complain to whoever made that tar.bz2 then
[05:26] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: no tarball should spray files all over your directory like that
[05:27] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Could i do something like "tar -xvjf <filename> /home/jon/foldernamehere"?
[05:28] <rebort> P8ntKid: yeah im pretty sure you can
[05:28] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: you can direct the output, yes - I forget the option - maybe -d (check the man page)
[05:28] <Villa> what font is gaim using for the list of contacts?
[05:29] <defendguin> any plans to get firefox 1.5 for breezy?
[05:29] <Villa> special chars show in gaim but not in licq
[05:29] <Villa> so I need to figure out what font gaim uses
[05:29] <sambagirl> test
[05:29] <jbroome> sambagirl: rcvd
[05:29] <slew> it works sambagirl
[05:29] <SumoJim> Does anyone know how to "expand repositories" for hoary hedgehog?
[05:29] <sambagirl> thank you
[05:29] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: i just move the tarball to /home/me/tmp before untarring (in case of these problems)
[05:30] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Ok.
[05:30] <gp_aaron> is gnomebaker installed by default on ubuntu 5.10 installs
[05:30] <gp_aaron> ?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> gp_aaron,  dont think so
[05:30] <P8ntKid> thoreauputic: Thanks.
[05:30] <thoreauputic> gp_aaron: no
[05:31] <gp_aaron> thomhash: it's included in the repo right :|
[05:31] <thoreauputic> P8ntKid: no worries :)
[05:31] <thoreauputic> !info gnomebaker
[05:31] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB
[05:31] <P8ntKid> Well, its time to upgrade to breezy now.
[05:31] <thoreauputic> in universe
[05:31] <insipid> okay, is it possible to install 32 bit libraries with a 64 bit kernel package so i can apt-get install xwine... or will i need to debootstrab
[05:31] <insipid> debootstrap even
[05:31] <gp_aaron> thoreauputic: ok, i don't use ubuntu though so it's all good
[05:31] <gp_aaron> i just have a non-geeky friend who does
[05:32] <dpupp> omg! these sounds are driving me crazy! i dont need sound for minimizing or maximizing a window.. or closing or opening a window... how do i turn those off in kde?
[05:32] <dpupp> i feel like im playing with a fisher-price toy!
[05:32] <kismet> i want command-line control of my linux machine from my windows machine on my home network: telnet? what am i looking for here? no GUI needed
[05:32] <gp_aaron> dpupp: install gnome
[05:32] <thoreauputic> dpupp: heh - I know what you mean - there's an option in kcontrol somewhere
[05:32] <gp_aaron> kismet: you want to ssh into your linux box
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> kismet,  use 'ssh' and 'puty.exe'
[05:32] <dpupp> gp_aaron, i have gnome also installed.
[05:32] <gp_aaron> kismet: google for putty.exe
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> or is it 'putty.exe'
[05:33] <jasongrieves> i think the KDE task bar needs to lose about 30 pounds
[05:33] <thoreauputic> dpupp: maybe ask in #kubuntu
[05:33] <gp_aaron> the best ssh client for windows
[05:33] <dpupp> ah! true!
[05:33] <dpupp> my mad.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> winscp is also handy for windows->linux transfers and stuff.
[05:33] <kismet> i've got putty.exe, I want sshd? what's the package name?
[05:33] <Villa> what font will display all the crazy chars that people use in their handles and etc
[05:33] <gp_aaron> kismet: openssh
[05:33] <kismet> danke
[05:33] <gp_aaron> i think..
[05:33] <SumoJim> Does anyone know where I could look to find information on expanding my repositories? Aside from the forums?
[05:33] <Villa> some people make their name so crazy and licq don't display them correctly but gaim does
[05:33] <gp_aaron> it is on any other distro
[05:33] <Villa> what font does gaim use
[05:34] <jrattner1> SumoJim, go to wiki.ubuntu.com and type repositories
[05:34] <thoreauputic> openssh-server (for sshd)
[05:34] <jrattner1> ubotu, tell SumoJim repositories
[05:34] <gp_aaron> Villathe default one setup in gtk
[05:34] <SumoJim> Thanks.
[05:34] <Hentai^XPwork> nutty
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !repos
[05:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:34] <jrattner1> thoreauputic, ahhh thank you
[05:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:34] <SumoJim> thanks!
[05:35] <cosimo321> hello all
[05:35] <rebort> someone give bug 16479 a try at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479 please!
[05:35] <botbuilder> finally got ubuntu on my old comp
[05:35] <cosimo321>  I just installed kubuntu and need ot enable the repositories how do i do that?
[05:35] <botbuilder> To do it I connected my hard drive to the new comp and installed on to it
[05:35] <botbuilder> ...
[05:35] <botbuilder> anyway
[05:35] <botbuilder> now it won't boot
[05:35] <kismet> hey, i've got a nutty idea - why not dump standard .conf style, and use XML configuration files, that can then easily be fiddled with using a GUI
[05:36] <thoreauputic> rebort: that's a nasty one (i looked but I have no idea what the answe is, sorry)
[05:36] <thoreauputic> *answer
[05:36] <botbuilder> it says "ACPI: unable to locate RSDP"
[05:36] <botbuilder> then freezes on "Loading, please wait"
[05:36] <rebort> thoreauputic: i havent been able to use gnome for about 2 months
[05:36] <thoreauputic> kismet: that has often been suggested :)
[05:36] <botbuilder> and this is booting with "noapic noacpi"
[05:36] <botbuilder> anyideas?
[05:37] <Arafangion> How do I change hte default editor?
[05:37] <gp_aaron> kismet: i like the .conf setup
[05:37] <Arafangion> I don't see any set environment variable, such as EDITOR.
[05:37] <flankk> botbuilder, apic?
[05:38] <botbuilder> flankk - some other guy suggested it
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Arafangion:   update-alternatives --config editor
[05:38] <Arafangion> fami: Just ask in the damn channel.
[05:38] <botbuilder> its probably not even a param
[05:38] <botbuilder> or arg
[05:38] <fami> Arafangion: it is off channel
[05:38] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Most systems use a standard environment flag.
[05:38] <botbuilder> he must have just spelled acpi wrong
[05:38] <Arafangion> fami: Why is it off channel?
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I'm aware of that
[05:39] <flankk> botbuilder, well it won't work if you spell it wrong..
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: try my suggestion
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Thanks :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:39] <sol> hello
[05:39] <fami> Arafangion: not ubuntu things
[05:39] <botbuilder> flankk - lol
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Now, how does a specific user set it up?
[05:39] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Non-root.
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: AFAIK you can run that command as a user
[05:40] <botbuilder> flankk - same error if its only "noacpi"
[05:40] <botbuilder> This comp works fine with windows
[05:40] <Arafangion> Using `/usr/bin/vim' to provide `editor'.
[05:40] <Arafangion> update-alternatives: unable to make /etc/alternatives/editor.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /usr/bin/vim: Permission denied
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: ah, no sorry
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: right I just did the same :)
[05:41] <botbuilder> but whenever I try to do the linux install or linux itself it doesn't get anywhere
[05:41] <eric> hello guys
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: looks like it's global
[05:41] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Why doesn't ubuntu like the standard way?
[05:41] <eric> nice to be here in irc
[05:41] <kismet> wow, that was so easy, thanks for the openssh suggestion
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I don't know - I guess you could set it up in ~/.bashrc ( I haven't tried)
[05:42] <botbuilder> Yeah, if i ever get my server running I'm just going to leave it under the desk with a power cable and an ethernet cable ;)
[05:42] <flankk> botbuilder, you edited your grub menu.lst or used the grub terminal?
[05:42] <eric> how can i setup my dsl to run on ubuntu?
[05:42] <botbuilder> grub terminal i believe
[05:42] <botbuilder> I hit e, then e again, added stuff, hit enter, hit b
[05:43] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: It's just wierd that ubuntu's done so much work to do something in their own special way, when we already had EDITOR
[05:43] <botbuilder> i wonder if safe mode would make a difference
[05:43] <aedes> !info cupsaddsmb
[05:43] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I think you'll find it's a Debian thing actually
[05:43] <flankk> botbuilder, turn of ACPI in your BIOS, if at all possible, and edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and append 'ro noacpi quiet' to your 'kernel' line.
[05:44] <gp_aaron> is the debian gui installer released yet?
[05:44] <botbuilder> holy shite
[05:44] <botbuilder> safe mode did it >:)
[05:44] <botbuilder> flankk - ok i'll do that, thanks
[05:44] <SumoJim> Thanks jrattner1 and ubotu for the reference on expanding my repositories!!! I got it to work and I really appriciate it!!!
[05:45] <Delvien> Anyone know how to install something from a .PL File?
[05:45] <PokerFacePenguin> .pl is a perl extension
[05:45] <botbuilder> Wait, safe mode just gives mne debugging of the prob
[05:45] <botbuilder> Looks like one of the disk drives
[05:45] <Delvien> PokerFacePenguin how do i run it then?
[05:45] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Doubt it.
[05:46] <PokerFacePenguin> chmod +x filename then ./filename while u are in the directory....hope u trust it
[05:46] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Looks like you're correct, just Debian uses vim by default, so I didn't notice it.
[05:46] <Delvien> PokerFacePenguin its VMware.
[05:47] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: And I prefer vim, so when I went onto ubuntu... :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I noticed when I installed mc it changed from nano to mcedit (no idea why)
[05:47] <me_> do .deb packages execute on ubuntu?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: the priorities are set in the packages evidently
[05:48] <sklav> me_, you must use dpkg
[05:48] <PokerFacePenguin> like i said, it is a perl script....make it executable with chmod +x filename then you can run it (assuming correct permissions etc etc)
[05:48] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: defaults really should be environment variables.
[05:48] <me_> sklav, does alien turn rpm's and deb's into dpkg?
[05:49] <Arafangion> me_: No.
[05:49] <botbuilder> flankk - how can i edit menu.lst when i can't even get to the command line?
[05:49] <sklav> me_, .deb is a bedian / ubuntu package
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: heh - file a bug ;-)
[05:49] <sklav> you need to install it
[05:49] <Arafangion> me_: rpm's and deb's are packages. dpkg is a package *manager*
[05:49] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: :)
[05:49] <sklav> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> zomg firefox 1.5 is out, when is it getting packaged?
[05:50] <Arafangion> me_: I strongly advise you to avoid installing non-ubuntu packages, unless you have absolutely no alternative.
[05:50] <me_> so can I install a .deb file in ubuntu if I use the package manager?
[05:50] <flankk> botbuilder, I didn't notice that you said you couldn't get to the command line.  Explain.  Can you boot successfully, or just not find the terminal button under Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ;)
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: I think you can still do export EDITOR=vim  or whatever ( haven't tried it )
[05:50] <Arafangion> me_: Yes.
[05:51] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Probably.
[05:51] <botbuilder> flannk - i can't boot at all
[05:51] <zuen> tiglionabbit: /topic
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> aw
[05:51] <tiglionabbit> gosh darnit
[05:51] <botbuilder> flankk i mean
[05:51] <me_> arafangion, I'm getting no sound.  I need the driver, it's only available in rpm or tarball.  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php?PHPSESSID=8133c36dd3cabebf1dd20fbef70e78e6
[05:51] <carthik> me_ it might create problems when upgrading to breezy+1 for one....
[05:51] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ export EDITOR=vim
[05:51] <thoreauputic> peter@prospero:~ $ echo $EDITOR
[05:51] <thoreauputic> vim
[05:52] <zuen> tiglionabbit: get it yourself from mozilla website.
[05:52] <flankk> botbuilder, that's another problem altogether.  You need to state the exact error that stops booting.
[05:52] <ywchong> hi, does anybody here have a success wireless netgear wg311v2 installation guide?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: so you could put that in .bashrc I gues...
[05:52] <botbuilder> hmm
[05:52] <botbuilder> Well in normal mode there is no error
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> zuen: but there's no way to get a deb package for it then--
[05:52] <botbuilder> safe mode is more informative
[05:53] <alekz> where can i find a really complete repositories list ?
[05:53] <ajmitch> afternoon
[05:53] <botbuilder> i mean recovery mode
[05:53] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Yes, but it the /etc/alternatives seems pointless.
[05:53] <botbuilder> hdb: cache flushes not supported
[05:53] <me_> if anyone in here has any suggestions on how I can get the sound driver to work on my ubunto installation I would be greatful.  The link to the site with the driver is here:  http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/riptide/downloads.php?PHPSESSID=8133c36dd3cabebf1dd20fbef70e78e6
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: it's used for lots of other things too - but in fact if you type editor as a command you should get whatever you set as alternative
[05:54] <botbuilder> hdb : task_no_data_intr: status = 0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
[05:55] <botbuilder> hdb: task_no_data_int: error = 0x02 {TrackZeroNotFound}
[05:55] <sklav> me_, try the rpm alien will convert it to deb there is a switch on how to do it or get the tar.gz and follow the instruction usually listed in a file called README or INSTALL
[05:55] <botbuilder> ide: failed opcode was: 0xde
[05:56] <sklav> botbuilder, are u using hdparm?
[05:56] <botbuilder> then it says lostinterrupt at 30 second intervals
[05:56] <botbuilder> sklav - I don't think so
[05:56] <sklav> what type of drive?
[05:56] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: what really confused me was that " sudo visudo " gave me nano instead of vi/vim (weird)
[05:56] <botbuilder> depends on which one causes it
[05:56] <botbuilder> One is pretty brandless the other is an old Hp cd writer
[05:57] <sklav> well you said hdb so that is proimary controller slave
[05:57] <botbuilder> the hard drive is a dell 4gb
[05:57] <botbuilder> oh
[05:57] <botbuilder> noidea what the hard drive is
[05:57] <botbuilder> it just 'is'
[05:57] <sklav> ok the error you are gettign is probably related to your hp cd writer
[05:57] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: because you expected vi* to really point to vi*? :)
[05:57] <botbuilder> ok
[05:57] <botbuilder> i'll disconnect
[05:57] <botbuilder> (it)
[05:57] <sklav> i had similar error when 1 of 2 options
[05:57] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: strangely enough, yes ;)
[05:58] <sklav> 1 the cd drive is dieying
[05:58] <ajmitch> thoreauputic: I can't imagine why.. :)
[05:58] <arkais> hi
[05:58] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: totally unreasonable, I know *grin*
[05:58] <sklav> or 2 the cdrom you have in it is corrupted or defective
[05:58] <botbuilder> no cdrom in it
[05:58] <flankk> sklav, er.. highly doubtful.. I have an HP dvd640 with no issues.. and that error is disk drive related.
[05:58] <sklav> he said hdb
[05:58] <derek> Hi
[05:59] <flankk> sklav, so?
[05:59] <sklav> hi hard drive is hda
[05:59] <sklav> hdb is the cdrom
[05:59] <sklav> i had similar error
[05:59] <Arafangion> ajmitch: it's how it got it's name.
[05:59] <sklav> in the past with my cdrom it was flaky
[05:59] <flankk> sklav, omg.
[05:59] <ajmitch> Arafangion: I know ;)
[05:59] <botbuilder> hmm that didn't do it
[05:59] <derek> any way to format a fat32 partition as ext3 while running the live cd?
[05:59] <botbuilder> I think its the generic one
[05:59] <sklav> ?
[05:59] <flankk> botbuilder, 'cat /etc/fstab' and paste me the lines with 'hdb' in them.
[05:59] <me_> ok, I just installed the .deb version of the driver.  Now is the moment of truth.  I hope this gets the sound to work.
[06:00] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Infact, it appears that the current manpage still states that it looks for vi first.
[06:00] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Bug!! :)
[06:00] <flankk> botbuilder, oh yeah.  You can't even boot.
[06:00] <sklav> botbuilder, did you boot with cdrom inserted?
[06:00] <sklav> and then remove it?
[06:00] <botbuilder> flankk - where am i supposed to enter that if i can't bot?
[06:00] <botbuilder> *boot
[06:00] <botbuilder> yeah
[06:00] <botbuilder> sklav - I've already got ubuntu on the hard drive
[06:00] <sklav> ok
[06:00] <ajmitch> Arafangion: see the following sentences..
[06:00] <botbuilder> I plugged the hard drive into my windows computer
[06:00] <botbuilder> and installed with that ^_6
[06:01] <sklav> and then you switched the drive?
[06:01] <flankk> botbuilder, so you have one or two hard drives in this computer?
[06:01] <Arafangion> ajmitch: Yes, makes specific mention to EDITOR or VISUAL, but makes no mention of /etc/alternatives.
[06:01] <botbuilder> well, it thinks i have two
[06:01] <botbuilder> one is a zip drive though
[06:01] <botbuilder> I never use it so I'll unplug it
[06:02] <botbuilder> All disk drives except floppy unpluged now
[06:02] <botbuilder> same prob
[06:02] <botbuilder> wait no
[06:02] <botbuilder> its gotten farther now
[06:02] <flankk> botbuilder, you installed ubuntu to your floppy!?
[06:02] <sklav> hehe
[06:03] <botbuilder> 'error inserting fan'
[06:03] <ajmitch> Arafangion: I've spent a bit long on debian systems for it to bother me :)
[06:03] <insipid> anyone here running the amd64 kernel?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: VISUAL isn't set by default either, it seems
[06:03] <botbuilder> 'error inserting thermal'
[06:03] <botbuilder> both acpi errors
[06:03] <botbuilder>  /dev/hdc1/ doesn't exist
[06:03] <botbuilder> although I appear to be on some command line now
[06:04] <flankk> botbuilder, you're not turning it off properly at boot time then.  First turn it off in your BIOS, then disable it at the grub prompt properly.
[06:04] <insipid> im trying to understand what gentoo and suse do that Ubuntu does not.. they do not have to chroot into a 32 bit environment to use 32 bit applications.. however on ubuntu it is necessary
[06:04] <insipid> im not sure how their kernel packages differ
[06:04] <botbuilder> flankk - oh, probably
[06:04] <botbuilder> i havent been doing the arguments for a while
[06:04] <botbuilder> asthey seemed to make no difference
[06:04] <flankk> botbuilder, if you got a prompt, then login, 'vim /boot/grub/menu.lst' and do what I mentioned earlier..
[06:05] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Indeed.
[06:05] <Kayde> How the heck do i acess my Xorg,conf file?
[06:05] <Kayde> How the heck do i acess my Xorg.conf file?**
[06:05] <Arafangion> Kayde: xorg.conf you mean?
[06:05] <Kayde> :)
[06:05] <poofyhair> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:05] <poofyhair> that command
[06:06] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: so you can set the variables yourself if you wish, but Debian/Ubuntu doesn't seem to do it by default...
[06:06] <Kayde> ive tried it
[06:06] <poofyhair> be carefu
[06:06] <poofyhair> KDE?
[06:06] <poofyhair> Kubuntu?
[06:06] <Kayde> yea
[06:06] <poofyhair> then
[06:06] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Just pointless to spend all that time patching software to a non-standard setup.
[06:06] <poofyhair> sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <poofyhair> have a nice day
[06:06] <Kayde> ty
[06:06] <botbuilder> "ALERT! /dev/hdc1 doesn't exist. dropping to a shell"
[06:06] <derek> Please, is there any way to format a fat32 partition as ext3 while running the live cd?
[06:07] <botbuilder> Busybox
[06:07] <sethk> derek, sure, mke2fs -j
[06:07] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: remeber that update-alternatives applies to many other apps as well ( like x-www-browser IIRC)
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> botbuilder: apparently you've unmounted your root partition, which was on a cd?
[06:07] <flankk> botbuilder, you didn't edit more than I told you to in the /etc/fstab, did you ;P
[06:07] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: So, use environment variables!
[06:07] <botbuilder> lol
[06:07] <botbuilder> i havent edited anything
[06:07] <botbuilder> tiglion - perhaps...
[06:07] <derek> sethk, what's that? and how to reach the fat32 partition here firstly?
[06:08] <botbuilder> dunno how though
[06:08] <sethk> derek, you don't "reach" it.
[06:08] <tiglionabbit> botbuilder: unless you actually have 3 hard drives in there...   hdc is usually the other things
[06:08] <sethk> derek, you just get a shell, and do mke2fs -j /dev/hdXX
[06:08] <sethk> derek, the XX depends on the drive and partition
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: in Debian there are several "sensible-*"  things (like sensible-browser)  - I personally find that terminology rather affronting
[06:08] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: Though, X11 stuff probably should use xml resources or something equally complex.
[06:08] <sethk> derek, suppose it is the second partition of the first drive, then it is /dev/hda2
[06:08] <insipid> man is that really such a difficult question... i cant get anything on google
[06:08] <drapelyk> All: this is a noob question, but How do I unzip a .zip file in Ubuntu?
[06:08] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: You do any coding?
[06:08] <botbuilder> tiglionabbit: hmm.  ah it goes hda hdb hdc then
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: hehhe - maybe you should use Slackware ;-)
[06:09] <sethk> derek, assuming IDE drives, of course
[06:09] <Arafangion> drapelyk: 'unzip' is the program that unzips .zip files.
[06:09] <Kayde> command not found
[06:09] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: no, only little bash scripts etc
[06:09] <derek> sethk, yes, IDE
[06:09] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: I quite like slackware, but I really like automatic dependency management.
[06:09] <drapelyk> Arafangion: so... apt-get install unzip ?
[06:09] <derek> sethk, how do I list all the partitions?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> indeed
[06:09] <Arafangion> drapelyk: Should do it.
[06:09] <drapelyk> Arafangion: thanks!
[06:09] <jordan> hi ppl
[06:09] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: My other desktop is a linux-from-scratch-derived system, that I made myself :)
[06:09] <carthik> drapely, install "unzip" and then you an use the archive manager to unzip the .zip by right clicking on it
[06:09] <sethk> derek, for a drive, you do    fdisk -l /dev/hda           for the first,    fdisk -l /dev/hdb    for the second, etc.
[06:10] <Arafangion> thoreauputic: I plan to install KDE 3.5 onto it :)
[06:10] <flankk> Arafangion, Slackware has that too.. you just have a *choice* of pagage management applications..
[06:10] <botbuilder> "Cannot read /etc/fstab no such file or directory"
[06:10] <botbuilder> :(
[06:10] <Arafangion> flankk: Yes, but nothing beats debian in maturity and stability.
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> unless you have a very minimal install, unzip should be on there already.  Just use the "Archive Manager" accessory
[06:10] <botbuilder> I tried to mount boot ;p
[06:10] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: ah, hence your insistence on traditional methods ;)
[06:10] <carthik> drapely, while you are at it, install "rar" for unraring .rar files too :)
[06:10] <Arafangion> flankk: Heck, I *downgraded* sid to stable the other day.
[06:10] <jordan> how do i install java enviorment plugin on linux???????????? plz any1
[06:10] <jimmyhends> whats the command in ubuntu to find out what network ip its using
[06:10] <derek> sethk, what's -l for?
[06:10] <sethk> derek, list
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> jordan,  thers no need for all the ???'s
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> jordan: please don't talk that way.  Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:11] <sethk> jimmyhends, ifconfig
[06:11] <thoreauputic> !javadeb
[06:11] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, Slackware is more mature and equally as stable as Slackware..  but I've always found slapt-get to be a bastard child. :)
[06:11] <carthik> ubotu tell jordan about java
[06:11] <jordan> ok thx
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, Debian is ... Slackware
[06:11] <Arafangion> flankk: I'm sure that slack is just as good as slock.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Tip #1 - check the wiki first befor even asking  anything.  LOL.
[06:11] <derek> sethk, ok
[06:11] <Arafangion> *slack.
[06:11] <flankk> Arafangion, or the other way around.. damn I need a coffee.
[06:11] <Kayde> Poofyhair, command not found
[06:11] <Arafangion> flankk: Heh :)
[06:11] <thoreauputic> no no , slack can't compare to slack !
[06:12] <Arafangion> flankk: Debian and slack both make a fine server, but I just feel that debian rules in terms of keeping a system up-to-date in a very reliable fashion.
[06:12] <flankk> I've just started the worst distro war eva.
[06:12] <afabian> I don't get it.  That is, tacking fancy package management onto Slackware.  That's like.. the point, that it doesn't do that.  Ah well. =)
[06:12] <flankk> Time to construct a mobius strip.
[06:12] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[06:12] <Kayde> please guve script
[06:12] <jimmyhends> sethk: didnt work
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> flankk,  then cut it in half.
[06:12] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu? please tell me
[06:12] <afabian> Kayde, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:12] <sethk> jimmyhends, that doesn't tell me what you did wrong
[06:12] <Kayde> ty
[06:13] <derek> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[06:13] <derek> Cannot open /dev/hda
[06:13] <jimmyhends> command not found
[06:13] <flankk> Dr_Willis, lol.  How can they be linked!
[06:13] <sethk> derek, you need to either be root or use sudo
[06:13] <sethk> derek, for any administrative command
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Kayde: or better, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <vbgunz> just curious about dapper drake so I downloaded the nov 30th build on another pc. When trying to install by simply pressing default I quickly am presented with a gray screen, "debconf..., debconf..., pt>" it seems to be stuck on this screen... I cannot enter a command as I am not at the pt> prompt... How do I bypass it?
[06:13] <afabian> Kayde, might want to try something less drastic first, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or some such.  .. I know Debian is touchy about locally modified xorg.confs.
[06:13] <derek> sethk, this is a live cd
[06:13] <sethk> jimmyhends, you can either use sudo, or give the full path
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> flankk,  i rember some tricks with cutting them - that did all sorts of neat things.
[06:13] <torus> I can't mount mount my USB CF reader, though it automounted in the past...
[06:13] <jimmyhends> ive just installed it i dont know
[06:14] <Arafangion> afabian: Debian is not really that touchy about locally modified xorg confs.
[06:14] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, is it possible to boot the ubuntu installation disk from grub ?
[06:14] <sethk> jimmyhends, usually /sbin/ifconfig
[06:14] <afabian> Arafangion, it won't modify them anymore if the MD5 changes, and you have to do some 'hackish' things to convince it to work again.
[06:14] <Arafangion> afabian: Just like any other .conf
[06:14] <sklav> later guys
[06:14] <sklav> im off
[06:15] <botbuilder> cya
[06:15] <flankk> Dr_Willis, I once made a quite large one and split it so many times that it turned into a gigantic linked ball of shredded paper.
[06:15] <derek> sethk, how to display the sizes of the partitions?
[06:16] <sethk> derek, the same way
[06:16] <sethk> derek, it will show the number of blocks.
[06:16] <sethk> derek, each block is 512 bytes
[06:16] <carthik> derek, if you are using Breezy, use the disks tool: System -> administration -> disks
[06:16] <derek> sethk, i see
[06:16] <derek> carthik, no, hoary
[06:16] <__learner__> Ubuntu does not recognize my usb keyboard, its strange because it does not work, but the multimedia keys do.
[06:16] <sethk> derek, or what carthik said works also, of course
[06:16] <__learner__> what do you think about it?
[06:17] <sethk> __learner__, just play CDs?
[06:17] <logical_mark> Hey, what is a good FTP Server that will use a mySQL backend for authentication?
[06:17] <vader> sorry wrong chan
[06:17] <__learner__> change volume
[06:17] <__learner__> open browser
[06:17] <__learner__> those things.
[06:17] <__learner__> very weird.
[06:17] <__learner__> but the commom keys dont work
[06:18] <sethk> __learner__, you might toggle the state of compatibility mode for usb keyboard in the machine's BIOS
[06:18] <__learner__> but it works on windows, and works on grub too.
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, then what I said is correct
[06:19] <__learner__> I ll check it, tx.
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, it's a PITA, because you may have to toggle it back to get control in grub
[06:19] <sethk> __learner__, but it frequently works.
[06:20] <sethk> __learner__, now, you can reconfigure the kernel to get around the problem, but that's a bit complicated
[06:20] <brandon> can someone point me to the ubuntu way for configuring artwiz fonts?
[06:20] <pussfeller> logical_mark: i think proftpd can, and maybe pure
[06:20] <__learner__> tx for the help! Ubuntu comunity is very great!
[06:20] <__learner__> just the best!
[06:20] <logical_mark> pussfeller: Yeah I ma looking at pure-ftpd, but I cannot find any documentation on how to set it up using mysql...
[06:20] <__learner__> thanks a lot
[06:21] <logical_mark> pussfeller: ... even though I know it will do that
[06:22] <torus> My USB CF reader wouldn't mount, please help!
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> torus,  unplug/plug it back in and check dmesg output?
[06:26] <torus> Dr_Willis ,It says : Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi4, channel 0, id 0, lun  0
[06:26] <torus>  usb-storage: device scan complete
[06:27] <Asazuke> could someone explain to me how to install python-mode in emacs? i have the file, just dont know where to put it, or what to do as far as configuring emacs
[06:27] <steve__> hi
[06:27] <drumline> Anyone use that ext2fsd package on SF?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> torus,  try a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc'     see if it sees the thing. and if so Mount them somwehere. :P
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> torus,  is this a 7-in-one kind of reader?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Asazuke:  sudo apt-get install python-mode   didn't do it for you?
[06:28] <torus> Dr_Willis, no
[06:29] <Asazuke> thoreauputic: lemme try that, thank you for the response
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Asazuke: always best to try something like apt-cache search <foo> | grep <bar> to see id it's available :)
[06:30] <thoreauputic> s/id/if
[06:31] <Asazuke> thoreauputic: i just didnt even think about installing it through the package manager, it is now working, thank you
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Asazuke: no problem :)
[06:32] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu? please tell me
[06:32] <frogzoo> Kayde: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:32] <thoreauputic> Kayde: we already did, several times
[06:32] <Pablo> locate xorg.conf?
[06:33] <Kayde> How do i access my xorg.conf in ubuntu5.4 yea but its wrong 1
[06:33] <Kayde> yes pablo
[06:33] <frogzoo> Kayde: locate is a command
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Kayde:  what is wrong? the file isn't there or what?
[06:34] <Kayde> these are the thingy ive tried :sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <Kayde> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <Kayde> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <Kayde> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:34] <Kayde> none work...
[06:34] <Kayde> the file isnt there
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Kayde: define "work"
[06:34] <frogzoo> Kayde - are u sure you're running ubuntu :)
[06:34] <Kayde> the file isnt there...it opens but the screen is blank
[06:34] <PokerFacePenguin> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <jknife> i just saw there is a eubuntu lol
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Kayde: what error do you get from  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[06:35] <mrkoje> Kayde: What did you do delete the xorg.conf file?  Be specific if you want help
[06:38] <mrkoje> Has anyone heard of the 855resolution package?
[06:39] <PokerFacePenguin> foobar, wasnt the old kernel still there?
[06:39] <Kayde> i just want the proper ubuntu 5.4 xorg.conf file so i can add higher resolution
[06:39] <frogzoo> foobar: I upgraded from hoary to breezy, including 2.6.12 (I think) & it just worked
[06:39] <thoreauputic> foobar: no problem at all here
[06:39] <mrkoje> foobar: you should have been able to just rollback to the old kernal if you were having problems
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Kayde: you aren't even listening are you ?
[06:39] <Kayde> I am!
[06:39] <Kayde> none work!
[06:39] <insipid> cmon guys.. nobody seems to know what the **** bootstrapping is but they feel obliged to tell me my conception of bootstrapping is wrong
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Kayde: so answer the question
[06:39] <Kayde> the xorg.conf file is empty
[06:40] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: I think Kayde is listening, just very early steps for him/her
[06:40] <mrkoje> foobar: but I am having no problems... and the kernal doesn't just install it self, it asks you if you want to install it
[06:40] <Kayde> him!
[06:40] <Kayde> ;
[06:40] <Kayde> ;-)
[06:40] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: he/she hasn't answered questions I asked several times
[06:40] <rumplefor> Anybody willing to brush up on a little C? need a little help
[06:40] <frogzoo> rumplefor: see #c
[06:41] <wowoemensd> how do i go about extracting a .bin file in ubuntu?
[06:41] <insipid> okay i guess intelligent questions are not for this channel.. this channel must be a substitute for the man pages only
[06:41] <rumplefor> frogzoo: ty
[06:41] <torus> How do I mount my HDD MP3 player (IAudio X5) ? please help...
[06:41] <NoUse> wowoemensd sh ./file.bin
[06:41] <drapelyk> All: can anyone help me get php working with Apache2?
[06:41] <NoUse> torus google is probably a better place to look for that
[06:41] <mrkoje> drapelyk: Whats going on?
[06:41] <NoUse> !tell drapelyk about php
[06:41] <PokerFacePenguin> drapelyk, php4 and apache2-mpm-prefork
[06:42] <botbuilder> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97438#top
[06:42] <botbuilder> Last post I've got some thumbnails of my prob
[06:43] <wowoemensd> NoUse: when i try to do sh ./file.bin, i get an error that says cannot execute binary file
[06:43] <torus> NoUse, no, I have a general problem with my USB devices
[06:43] <wowoemensd> even after i did a chmod on it
[06:43] <wowoemensd> to make it executable
[06:44] <PokerFacePenguin> wowoemensd, is it executable...like a script?
[06:44] <frogzoo> wowoemensd: 'file xxx' ?
[06:44] <PokerFacePenguin> answered that
[06:44] <wowoemensd> it is a kvcd
[06:44] <drapelyk> All: am I to replace "user" with my username or is it a command itself?      sudo bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[06:44] <wowoemensd> i'm trying to extract the mpeg out of it
[06:44] <NoUse> torus what kind of general problem?
[06:45] <torus> NoUse , they wouldn't automount, though dmesg recognizes them...
[06:45] <rebort> is anyone able to help with http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16479
[06:45] <frogzoo> drapelyk: u probably want to create a user "mysql"
[06:46] <drapelyk> frogzoo: for the system?
[06:46] <NoUse> torus you're in gnome?
[06:46] <kriiiile> any tip on how i change resulution cant pick 1280 in the system / settings / resulotion
[06:46] <torus> NoUse, yes
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !resolution
[06:46] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:47] <frogzoo> drapelyk: yes, so mysql can run as the 'mysql' user
[06:47] <carthik> torus, can you mount it using $pmount /dev/sda1 (0r sda2) ?
[06:47] <drapelyk> frogzoo, I'm not doubting, but I would like to know why it is good to do that?
[06:47] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so I have to log in as that user to change those settings or?
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: well the daemon has to execute as someone, but preferably not a user, and certainly not root
[06:48] <feenix> Can someone help me get an ftp server setup?
[06:48] <mt_holden_ss> how to i set my display resolution in ubuntu?
[06:48] <NoUse> torus are you sure it is a mass storage device? some HDD mp3 players don't use that protocol, they use proprietary transfer methods
[06:48] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so you pick a not used username
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: no, I think the install script will chown all your files to mysql, but maybe the user needs to exist first
[06:48] <frogzoo> drapelyk: u got it
[06:49] <drapelyk> frogzoo, so i'm an idiot... I don't know how to make a new user
[06:49] <torus> NoUse, it is a Mass Storage Devices and it automounted on my friend's Ubuntu...
[06:49] <frogzoo> man useradd
[06:49] <mt_holden_ss> how do i set my display res
[06:49] <NoUse> torus you running breezy?
[06:49] <drapelyk> useradd mysql?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> !tell mt_holden_ss about resolution
[06:49] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: system-> preferences-> screen resolution ?
[06:49] <feenix> Can someone help me get an FTP server setup, preferrably sftp?
[06:50] <NoUse> feenix sftp isn't really FTP by the strict definition, sftp comes with the ssh server
[06:50] <thoreauputic> feenix: sftp is part of the openssh-server package
[06:50] <torus> NoUse, yes
[06:50] <frogzoo> drapelyk: sure
[06:50] <Alister> q
[06:50] <NoUse> torus does an icon appear in "Computer" in gnome?
[06:50] <torus> carthik, pmount doesn't work
[06:51] <feenix> Is that in synaptic?
[06:51] <mosey> (Hello all!)
[06:51] <thoreauputic> feenix: yes
[06:51] <frogzoo> anyway to extend my battery life on a lap top?
[06:51] <feenix> Thanks!
[06:51] <mt_holden_ss> any wireless internet suppot, is it possible?
[06:51] <torus> Nouse, no
[06:51] <torus> NoUse, no
[06:51] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: turn the brightness down ;)
[06:51] <frogzoo> mt_holden_ss: absolutely - best support's on Breezy - my ipw2200 worked out of the box
[06:51] <NoUse> torus well then I guess you're left to running mount /dev/sda1 /media/mp3 or wherever you want to mount it
[06:52] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[06:52] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:52] <mt_holden_ss> mmm do i have to restart my computer when i apply the wireless settings
[06:52] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, does someone know if it's possible make grub boot the ubuntu cd installation ?
[06:52] <mt_holden_ss> can u tell me where i can get the support with wireless net?
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> anyone know where i'd find the kernel source code for ppc?
[06:53] <frogzoo> AlbertEin_ZaYa: you could just burn the live cd ?
[06:53] <carthik> torus, what did dmesg say, did it say anything ueful at all? the number after p (p1 p3 etc) correspond to the number after sda. So try sudo mount /dev/sd1 /media/usb/ or similar, where, the /media/usb directory should exist already
[06:53] <NoUse> nicholaspaul there is only once kernel source code, it compiles on all the diff architechures
[06:53] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  apt-cache search linux-source
[06:53] <Arafangion> What's a good voice/video chat system for linux?
[06:53] <mike__> hi all
[06:53] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, you dont have to restart the computer for that
[06:53] <nicholaspaul> thx NoUse, thoreauputic
[06:54] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> frogzoo, i cannot access my bios, so i cannot make my pc to boot from cd, but i have grub installed, i want to make grub boot the cd to reinstall ubuntu and fix some problems i'm having
[06:54] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, if your wireless interface is eth1, then sudo ifdown eth1 will disconnect wireless and sudo ifup eth1 will bring it up again
[06:54] <PokerFacePenguin> my usbkey mounts in on /media/usbdisk by default
[06:54] <Madpilot> mt_holden_ss: there's really only a few reasons to ever restart a Linux computer, and adding wireless isn't one of them
[06:54] <stephans> in ubuntu, where is the authentication utillity (so that I can set up my machines to authenticate to AD)?
[06:55] <carthik> mt_holden_ss, sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces is the file to edit, if you need to change details rearding the wireless conenction
[06:55] <stephans> Like in fedora
[06:55] <NoUse> stephans I'm not sure ubuntu has that utility
[06:55] <stephans> ok
[06:56] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic - that gives me a bunch of numbers...um.. what am i looking at?
[06:56] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> does anyona have a idea about how to do that?
[06:56] <bimberi> Arafangion: maybe give gaim-vv a try - http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html - good? no idea :)
[06:56] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: what are you wanting to do? compile a kernel or install drivers or what/
[06:56] <bimberi> hi thoreauputic :)
[06:57] <feenix> Ok not to be a bother, but installed the open ssh server and I tried to execute sshd and it says to re-exec with absolute path, but I do a find * | grep "sshd"
[06:57] <thoreauputic> bimberi: hi :)
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic - i'm trying to run make , and instal ural linux drivers for a RT2500 wifi usb stick
[06:57] <feenix> and nothing comes up
[06:57] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: you probably only need headers for that
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> headers?
[06:57] <bimberi> feenix: did you install via apt-get (or synaptic)?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:57] <carthik> feenix, /etc/init.d/ssh restart (or start or stop) will work
[06:58] <frogzoo> feenix: either 'which sshd' or locate sshd
[06:58] <feenix> Synaptic
[06:58] <feenix> Thanks
[06:58] <carthik> feenix, all services will have scripts there....
[06:58] <bimberi> feenix: it should have started by default (but see carthik otherwise)
[06:58] <jonathon> hey guys im having trouble getting my wifi card to work anyone can help?
[06:58] <Kayde> ok guy's, I need to find a way for fixing my laptops screen i know this might be annoying u, but i cant for the life of me figure out how to fix the squiggly lines on my laptop screen...
[06:58] <carthik> feenix, next time, you can try $dpkg -L <package name> -- to see the files that were installed when you installed a <package name> package
[06:59] <frogzoo> Kayde: is this an old laptop? are you sure it's not a driver problem?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: the command  uname -r  will tell you what your kernel is: the command I gave will get the needed kernel headers
[06:59] <carthik> jonathon, ask
[06:59] <Lunz> hi I am having a problem with the time changing everytime I log into Ubuntu can anyone help me?
[06:59] <Arafangion> bimberi: I'm biased against gaim, but perhaps it's improved in the recent years.
[06:59] <Kayde> it worked on knopix 3.8.2
[06:59] <Arafangion> bimberi: I'll look into it, thanks :)
[06:59] <feenix> Thanks. I need to generate keys
[06:59] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, is the wifi card supported?  Have you looked at ndiswrapper?
[06:59] <Kayde> it workes on knopix 3.8.2 and winXP
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> thoeauputic. I think its installing now.
[07:00] <bimberi> Arafangion: np :)
[07:00] <jonathon> yes i have the wifi card properly configured in ndiswrapper and i modprobe and iwconfig finds it
[07:00] <jonathon> still i cant use it...
[07:00] <carthik> Lunz, check if /etc/timezone has the right timezone
[07:00] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, have you given it an ip?
[07:01] <jonathon> no but my router has dhcp
[07:01] <factotum> is samba required to have access to a printer on a winxp machine or just cups?
[07:01] <Lunz> carthik: ok I'll have a look, I better log into Ubuntu. brb
[07:01] <Lunz> thanx
[07:01] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, then sudo dhclient interfacename
[07:01] <Surb-> How do you configure what resolutions X will use?
[07:01] <factotum> ive been scouring google and a few forums about it, but dont really know what i need
[07:02] <jonathon> its doing dhcp discover and not finding anything
[07:02] <Kayde> damit these lines realy tickme off, wat should i look it up as?
[07:02] <PokerFacePenguin> did it stop looking yet?
[07:02] <factotum> alright, im lying, ive been at band practice for the last 3 hours and my ears are ringing but...
[07:02] <carthik> factotum, afaik, winxp does not use the cups(common unix printing system) - so i should think samba is needed
[07:02] <bimberi> factotum: i think you only need smbclient, which is installed by default.  Using it for printing is configured via System -> Administration -> Printing
[07:03] <factotum> alright, I have unix print enabled on the xp box, but not sure after that
[07:03] <feenix> I can't remember how to generate the initial keys for ssh
[07:03] <drapelyk> All: What is the default groupname?
[07:03] <factotum> just the ip, network info and the like
[07:03] <thoreauputic> feenix:  ssh-keygen -t dsa
[07:03] <carthik> Surb-, in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- or you can use the tool $sudo pkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- keep the refresh rates of the monitor handy
[07:03] <carthik> Surb, that should be dpkg-reconfigure up there
[07:04] <jonathon> pokerfacepenguin yes it found nothing says no DHCPOFFERS recieved
[07:04] <Surb> Okay, thanks.
[07:04] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, if it isnt finding it, try assigning it a static ip and netmask, and dont forget to route add default gw yourgatewayip
[07:04] <rumplefor> any help welcome at http://rumplefor.pastebin.com/445830
[07:04] <Howie> Question: Can someone help me with the installation of Plugger as their home page instructions are confusing to me as a newbie.
[07:04] <carthik> jonathon, does "$sudo iwlist scanning" report any wireless nets around you>?
[07:05] <jonathon> ok i check
[07:05] <jonathon> yes it detects my AP
[07:05] <michelin> hi
[07:05] <michelin> everyone
[07:05] <michelin> i am new to this room
[07:05] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon,  it is an ip problem then most likely
[07:06] <Kayde> ok...wat is a good start on my screen, will i need a new driver? i am TOTALY new to linux..
[07:06] <SCMark> how do I mount something so that it is writeable to my logged in user?  Is there an option for the mount command?
[07:06] <carthik> jonathon, please paste your /etc/network/interfaces files at this site: http://rafb.net/paste/
[07:06] <jonathon> ok
[07:06] <factotum> heh, there is something to be said about completely switching over, never knew i could have fun for an entire evening just customizing my desktop..im such a dork
[07:06] <SCMark> If I mount something using sudo to my /mnt directory it becomes owned by root:root and I can't write to it
[07:07] <Element> i am new,everyone.
[07:07] <carthik> SCMark, try mounting it with pmount without the sudo
[07:07] <Kayde> hi element
[07:07] <Element> hi
[07:08] <jonathon> http://rafb.net/paste/results/JQwt6N60.html
[07:08] <Fujitsu> Element, Hi.
[07:08] <DRAGON_Ultra> hey element
[07:08] <Element> i never use IRC,this is my first time
[07:08] <Kayde> same :)
[07:08] <DRAGON_Ultra> welcome
[07:08] <michelin> I need some help
[07:08] <Element> thx
[07:08] <Fujitsu> Element: Welcome.
[07:09] <Fujitsu> michelin: What?
[07:09] <factotum> what can i do to find out what version a package is at before installing? I want to check out fluxbox
[07:09] <SCMark> Here is the mount command I was using before:  mount -t smbfs "//<IP_ADDRESS>/disk 1" /mnt/nslu2/ -o username=marko
[07:09] <michelin> I am using Ubuntu a
[07:09] <factotum> some apt-get command?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: apt-cache policy fluxbox
[07:09] <carthik> jonathon, as you can see that has no mention of the wireless interface. what is the name of the interface again? eth1? or ra0 or something?
[07:09] <factotum> thank you sir
[07:09] <Element> i just use ubuntu
[07:09] <SCMark> does pmount support smbfs?
[07:09] <sampan> factotum, apt-cache show <package>
[07:09] <jonathon> wlan0
[07:09] <michelin> and i want to know why UBUNTU doesn't support RPM
[07:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: it's at 0.9.12 in breezy IIRC
[07:09] <feenix> I generated my keys and saved them to the same place it was saying it could load them from (/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key) or DSA, I did both. But I'm still getting errors
[07:10] <Element> RPM is for red hat
[07:10] <factotum> wow, last i used it was .1.14 or something like that
[07:10] <Fujitsu> michelin: DIfferent distributions use different package managers, and Ubuntu happens to use the .deb format.
[07:10] <Fujitsu> RPM is Red Hat.
[07:10] <DRAGON_Ultra> and for suse
[07:10] <factotum> was considered stable at the ttime i think
[07:10] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, sending  you my script that sets my ip to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:10] <thoreauputic> factotum: that's the old "stable" branch
[07:10] <factotum> ah
[07:10] <jonathon> ok great
[07:10] <carthik> michelin, because anything that is an rpm is also a deb
[07:10] <blanky> how can I force to unmount a cd even if it's busy
[07:10] <carthik> michelin, and becuase there is "alien"
[07:10] <blanky> anyone?
[07:10] <Fujitsu> blanky: You can't, really.
[07:10] <jonathon> operation isnt supported
[07:11] <carthik> blanky, pumount -l blah blah
[07:11] <thoreauputic> blanky:  sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom
[07:11] <DRAGON_Ultra> use a big hammer
[07:11] <PokerFacePenguin> jonathon, u gotta accept it looks like
[07:11] <Fujitsu> It generally means that there is a terminal/file manager window open in some subdirectory.
[07:11] <michelin> so what about using RPM in UBUNTU
[07:11] <factotum> alright, going to try this out, be back in a bit hehe
[07:11] <michelin> I mean how to use RPM
[07:11] <jonathon> no i accepted it still failed
[07:11] <thoreauputic> michelin: don't
[07:11] <jonathon> im not registered user tho
[07:11] <Kayde> dose anyone know about having squiggly lines at the bottom of the page for ubutu 5.04?
[07:11] <feenix> getting a "could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key" and the next line is dsa
[07:11] <carthik> jonathon, okay wlan0 it is then.... one sec
[07:11] <Element> it can change RPM to DEB