[04:52] <kronos> Vorian: no
[04:52] <kitche> bulmer: well lfs is the same thing :)
[04:52] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: i downloaded the deb package he references specifically, but it wouldn't install because of my arch settings
[04:52] <bulmer> kitche ah okay
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: thats my point, why not just use 32bit?... it might be easier.
[04:52] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: i'm pretty familiar w/ building apps from source. at least enough so they run fairly stable.
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> arpegius: but you didn't know about build-essential?
[04:53] <arpegius> IndyGunFreak: it's been a while....
[04:53] <vi390> System79: How can that be, My Monitor should be able for more than 50Hz
[04:53] <arpegius> i live on os x all day long
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> clearly.. well, good luck with it.
[04:53] <System79> vi390: Install your video card drivers =.=
[04:55] <unimatrix9> would it be an good idea to have a kind of keynote but then for ubuntu?
[04:55] <vi390> System79: seems they already are intalled .. hmm
[04:55] <System79> vi390: Then blame your drivers =.=
[04:55] <unimatrix9> and who should give the talk?
[04:55] <unimatrix9> jono bacon?
[04:55] <vi390> System79: :-) but where can there be found all the drivers
[04:55] <unimatrix9> LOL
[04:56] <System79> vi390: I dont know it should just work ;)
[04:56] <defcon> good morning all, quick question, for some reason when I installed my wireless card and set it up with ndiswrapper I am unable to use wlan0 with my wep key in gnome network manager, but I can connect with ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0 how can I properly configure the network monitor/network manager for gnome so it connects?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> maybe its shows up too as eth1 , can you check?
[04:57] <defcon> im willing to paste info but im not too sure what to paste exactly, also I have wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces and it wont auto connect on boot? which file to I fix it
[04:58] <royel> !paste | defcon
[04:58] <ubotu> defcon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <unimatrix9> then configure eth1, as your wireless instead of wlan
[04:58] <defcon> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:3F:C5:BF:91
[04:58] <defcon> unimatrix9, thankyou for the response, I have eth0 as a wired connection but I dont use it
[04:58] <allquixotic> defcon I find that NetworkManager really sucks with wifi and any kind of encryption/authentication, so I just wrote my own script to do the magic and put it in /etc/init.d...
[04:59] <unimatrix9> defcon, wich version of ubuntu?
[04:59] <defcon> allquixotic, word, so I could make a bash script that does if down and then ifup?
[04:59] <defcon> feisty
[04:59] <allquixotic> maybe someday when the developers get around to improving their GUIs and encryption abstraction layers or whatever, it will be usable :)
[04:59] <vi390> System79: should it rearrange the available refresh range, when changing the resolution
[05:00] <allquixotic> I have not found a respectable wifi GUI for Linux yet
[05:00] <System79> vi390: Possible >.> With my screen on max resolution my max refresh rate is 75 Hz
[05:00] <bluefox83> allquixotic, if you can do all that, why not help with the development?
[05:00] <unimatrix9> defcon , does the wireless not show up twice? what does the wireless manger say?
[05:00] <unimatrix9> manager
[05:00] <defcon> im not that advanced yet in ubuntu and dont know exactly how a wifi connection is established but I got it to work with ndiswrapper
[05:00] <defcon> unimatrix9, it shows up but it doesnt connect me
[05:01] <defcon> the only way for me to connect is ifdown then if up
[05:01] <unimatrix9> defcon, only as wlan0?
[05:01] <defcon> unimatrix9, correct
[05:01] <Koisoooo> hi. how do i play dvds in linux ubuntu feisty? thanks?
[05:01] <kitche> !dvd | Koisoooo you need libdvdcss2
[05:01] <ubotu> Koisoooo you need libdvdcss2: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:01] <allquixotic> bluefox83 that's a nice attitude :) yes I'd love to fix every single little problem I ever have with every Linux utility, but "diminishing returns" comes to mind
[05:01] <unimatrix9> defcon, what kind of card is this? usb, on motherboard..etc?
[05:02] <defcon> unimatrix9 usb r73 with ndiswrapper
[05:02] <bluefox83> allquixotic, if you can do it, you should for the mere fact that it's giving back to the community
[05:02] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:02] <defcon> connection is great but id like to auto connect instead of manually doing it each boot up
[05:03] <smoenux> Does anyone know if there is a workaround for JRE6 and Compiz Fuzion?
[05:03] <allquixotic> bluefox83 I give back to the community 8 hours a day at work :-) I come home, hack on my own hobby projects, and help in IRC where I can. at this point if I *start* any new project work, I'll have to curtail my efforts elsewhere, so it would be a zero net-gain
[05:03] <elvirolo2> hi everyone
[05:03] <bluefox83> allquixotic, ooooooh
[05:03] <unimatrix9> defcon lspci , what does it say?
[05:04] <unimatrix9> oh, sorry lsusb
[05:04] <unimatrix9> hehe
[05:04] <bluefox83> allquixotic, thank you for contributing :)
[05:04] <vi390> System79: ok seems to work now , thanks
[05:04] <defcon> it shows up as belkin components,
[05:04] <bluefox83> allquixotic, i wish i had some programming or scripting skills...i would be happy to contribute in my free time
[05:04] <allquixotic> bluefox83, it's nice to work for a company that owns an open-source project. http://www.hikerproject.org
[05:04] <System79> vi390: No problemo
[05:05] <elvirolo2> i'm looking for a laptop which would be compatible with ubuntu ... there a dozens of pages for hardware compatibility but that doesn't really help me ... would anyone recommend one model in particular?
[05:05] <l3on> Hi all
[05:05] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:05] <l3on> I'm some problem with apt-listbug
[05:05] <c_lisp> anybody know how to add programs to right click in gnome not using nautilus?
[05:05] <l3on> it says me DEBIAN BUGS and not UBUNTU BUGS !
[05:05] <allquixotic> elvirolo2, I have had very positive experiences with using the hardware of a Lenovo ThinkPad X60 on Ubuntu. I hear similar positive feedback with any ThinkPad from T42, T60, X60, etc.
[05:05] <l3on> why ?
[05:05] <bluefox83> allquixotic, that's pretty awesome ^_^
[05:06] <elvirolo2> allquixotic: thank you, i'll look these up :)
[05:06] <royel> elvirolo2: he is corret the Lenovo/Thinkpad models are very friendly to linux
[05:06] <elvirolo2> royel: ok :)
[05:06] <kitche> l3on: if you notice on packages.ubuntu.com it says debian changelog also because that's how they did it they just didn't change stuff to ubuntu instead
[05:06] <RenatoSilva> hi, i'm desperated
[05:07] <allquixotic> actually, I don't think there is any hardware in this ThinkPad X60 that *is not* supported by Ubuntu - even the TPM/Biometric Fingerprint Reader is supported via libthinkfinger
[05:07] <RenatoSilva> i've made a rm-rf with a folder, and i want to recovery it
[05:07] <bluefox83> are there any laptops with integrated wireless that is supported by linux without any proprietary drivers for the wireless card?
[05:07] <RenatoSilva> how?
[05:07] <royel> RenatoSilva: you can't
[05:07] <l3on> kitche: so It's completely
[05:07] <l3on> useless
[05:07] <royel> RenatoSilva: sorry, but that is gone
[05:08] <l3on> on Ubuntu System...
[05:08] <Nev`> bye
[05:08] <defcon> brb reboot
[05:08] <unimatrix9> defcon, does the wireless , in the right corner of your gnome desktop show anything?
[05:08] <kitche> l3on: no it's not
[05:08] <unimatrix9> hmm
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: yes i can
[05:08] <unimatrix9> :)
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: i just don't remember how
[05:08] <allquixotic> bluefox83, due to the method of firmware loading into the wireless chipset, any 100.0% Free Software wireless stack would be a violation of intellectual property and significantly more illegal than, say, libdvdcss2 (which itself is probably illegal in many interpretations of the DMCA)
[05:08] <RenatoSilva> royel: the files are there
[05:08] <smoenux> Is there a workaround for JRE6 and Compiz Fusion (Java windows are grey)
[05:08] <allquixotic> bluefox83 There are many "mostly open-source" wireless drivers for Linux but at some point you have to use proprietary firmware, I think
[05:09] <bluefox83> allquixotic, would you need ndiswrapper to get them working?
[05:09] <allquixotic> bluefox83 I am using a driver that is not ndiswrappered right now.
[05:09] <RenatoSilva> royel: i would delete only a subfolder, but trying to complete folder name i entered in the main folder :(
[05:10] <RenatoSilva> how to recover a folder removed with rm-rf?
[05:10] <allquixotic> bluefox83 there *are* native Linux wireless drivers, and they're open source. they have a "firmware loading utility" that injects volatile firmware into the wireless chipset which enables it on the hardware side. on the CPU/kernel side, the driver there is open
[05:10] <bluefox83> allquixotic, that's very cool...i intend to buy a laptop at some point, and i wanted to make sure i'd be able to find one with wireless that would just work when ubuntu is installed
[05:10] <mind-shift> DAMNIT, GNOME KICKS ASS!
[05:10] <kitche> !caps | mind-shift
[05:10] <ubotu> mind-shift: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:11] <allquixotic> bluefox83, oh if all you want is "just works", I hear rumor that certain ndiswrapper drivers "just work" without any changes. but I don't own a card that requires ndiswrapper, so
[05:11] <mind-shift> kitche
[05:11] <killermach> ok.. gpart /dev/sda found my partitions quickly, and I wrote them to disk, time to reboot in to my OS, brb
[05:11] <yow|5570> can someone tell me what pkg provides glib-genmarshal ?
[05:11] <RenatoSilva> how can I get again a folder removed with rm-rf
[05:11] <unimatrix9> i thought gnome was old fashion
[05:11] <RenatoSilva> ?
[05:11] <unimatrix9> hehe
[05:11] <killermach> ok.. FYI: all, I found my previous notes written in the margin of my Knoppix Hacks in Hack #55 Find Lost Partions
[05:11] <royel> RenatoSilva: so, you made an alias that places them into a "trash" folder?
[05:11] <silvertip257> Good Morning
[05:11] <Seoke> Can someone tell me what went wrong here http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8637/screenshotjn2.png I'm trying to install UT
[05:12] <RenatoSilva> royel: do u mean a softlink to that folder?
[05:12] <bo77> I tried to use the usermod -G command to add a new group but did not append. Result lost all other groups than the one I added. How to get them back ?
[05:13] <allquixotic> RenatoSilva, Did you use the built-in coreutil tool "rm" to nuke a folder? You do realize that under almost all circumstances this is unrecoverable?
[05:13] <silvertip257> Seoke:  sorry I can't help, but could you tell me what you're using for your Apps bar ... is that the python bar?
[05:13] <limetang> I can't get my joystick working on Ubuntu 7.04. $ cat /proc/asound/card0/audiopci outputs "... Joystick enable  : on ..." and I've loaded analog and joydev, but jscalibrator says that it cannot access /dev/input/js0 (it does exist). I've tried two different joysticks and neither worked, any ideas?
[05:13] <Seoke> silvertip257: I believe so
[05:13] <bluefox83> limetang, i have yet to hear of anyone in here that got joystick working...i have been wondering if you could do it in ubuntu...
[05:14] <unimatrix9> seoke , i think the file is corrupts
[05:14] <silvertip257> Seoke:  did you install it?
[05:14] <limetang> blueCommand: from the guides I've seen, it looks possible.
[05:14] <Seoke> silvertip257: nope how is it different from yours?
[05:14] <limetang> bluefox83, sorry.
[05:14] <Seoke> unimatrix9: I've tried redownloading it like 4 times >>
[05:14] <bluefox83> limetang, no problem
[05:14] <tomce> is there a live-transmission of ubuntu-live-oregon?
[05:14] <unimatrix9> hmmm
[05:14] <silvertip257> Seoke:  yes ... I'm looking for a nice way to customize / make mine more colorful & transparent
[05:14] <blueCommand> limetang: haha, that' the second time today!
[05:14] <limetang> Apologies, blueCommand.
[05:14] <Seoke> silvertip257: Right click the bar and go to preferences =P
[05:15] <bluefox83> tomce, i don't think so...but if you find one, let me know i am very interested in hearing it
[05:15] <silvertip257> oh?!
[05:15] <silvertip257> will try Seoke =)
[05:15] <blueCommand> limetang, Think no more about it :D
[05:15] <Seoke> silvertip257: Properties xD
[05:15] <yow|5570> can someone tell me what pkg provides glib-genmarshal ?
[05:15] <silvertip257> haha nice Seoke .. thanks
[05:15] <Seoke> silvertip257: no problem ^_^ anytime
[05:15] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> does anyone know how to config grub?
[05:15] <silvertip257> =)
[05:16] <elvirolo2> yeah the thinkpads look great... a bit expensive though
[05:16] <bluefox83> kathe_ti_pou_ana, to my knowledge the only way is to edit /boot/brug/menu.lst
[05:16] <unimatrix9> defcon, does wireless show up in the gnome desktop on the right?
[05:16] <defcon> unimatrix9, nope
[05:16] <defcon> if I go into roaming mode it does
[05:16] <royel> elvirolo2: yes, they are, but it's one of those cases where "you pay for what you get", and they are worth the extra money.
[05:17] <defcon> then I try and give it my wep key and it wont connect
[05:17] <unimatrix9> yes it shold
[05:17] <unimatrix9> should
[05:17] <elvirolo2> royel: ok
[05:17] <unimatrix9> i see
[05:17] <kathe_ti_pou_ana> bluefox83 i press esc when it loads and then i edit it but then when i boot (by pressing b) i cannot edit xorg.conf
[05:17] <defcon> unimatrix9, when I click on it, it just shows me enable networking, not enable wireless
[05:18] <unimatrix9> defcon, do the following, disable wireless roaming, then manually set it up with wireless manager in system / networks
[05:18] <defcon> and it doesnt show me anything or change anything
[05:18] <unimatrix9> defcon. ..once setup add on the menu of gnome
[05:18] <defcon> did that, thats what I did unimatrix9, unfortunately still not working
[05:18] <killermach> ok, I now have "error loading os" on boot, but the Hack#55 gives some more info
[05:18] <unimatrix9> the wireless manager icon
[05:19] <unimatrix9> defcon and select from the dropdown menu your wlan...or type it in
[05:19] <defcon> unimatrix9, I think wireless manager is screwd up cuz I am loading it and its froze
[05:20] <stavrosg_> The system freezes mere seconds after X starts [x86_64, -generic kernel]  . Running on console now with no apparent problems. I have a Pentium D and a VIA PT880 Pro based motherboard, any ideas?
[05:20] <unimatrix9> defcon, the thing is, when you set it up the first time, it should prompt for storing your wep key and ask for password
[05:20] <unimatrix9> defcon thats a bit tricky on fiesty...
[05:21] <defcon> unimatrix9, I set it up for hex encrypted key and it doesnt connect
[05:21] <defcon> what does network manager use to connect? maybe my permissions are screwed up or something
[05:21] <jughead> Hello, I have an interesting problem.  I have two remote machines.  I need one of them to access a website, then take a screensot or somehow caopy the data from the terminal, then scp it to the other remote machine.  How can I do that?
[05:21] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: i do can recover it yes
[05:22] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: files are still there
[05:22] <defcon> "Network Settings"= froze
[05:22] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: only references was deleted, which includes the file names (my major problem)
[05:23] <RenatoSilva> allquixotic_away: the only thing unrecoverable are the file names
[05:23] <RenatoSilva> how to recover a folder removed with rm-rf?
[05:23] <smoenux> any workarounds for JRE6 and Compiz Fusion?
[05:23] <aelliott> jughead, does teh data have to be graphical? if its text data then its a lot easier
[05:25] <Orfeous> upgrading to gusty but i got some package errors..
[05:25] <Orfeous> bad image index
[05:25] <Orfeous> The generated cache was invalid.
[05:25] <Orfeous> any solutions?
[05:25] <unimatrix9> defcon, google around for your card..got to go eat, good luck with it ( or try an other wireless card )
[05:25] <defcon> unimatrix9, thankyou, have a good breakfast
[05:25] <defrysk> Orfeous, gutsy is not stable, try ubuntu+1 for solutions
[05:26] <jughead> aelliott, the data I need is from the terminal.  When I run the command "lynx http://whatismyip.org" the only thing that gets returned is my IP address.  That's what I need sent to the other machine
[05:26] <sx66gns> Hello
[05:26] <druid> can somebody help me i'm trying to run a .run script but it keeps saying there's an error in the md5 checksum
[05:26] <defrysk> druid, it means your download is incorrect
[05:27] <druid> ah so i can delete it
[05:27] <massctrl> mdadm can make a raid10 setup.  But you can't expand it.  If I would unify sets of raid1's with lvm2 into 1 big physical device, than I will have the possibility to expand.  Is there a better way to make an expandable raid 10 setup without a raidcontroller?  Its for a homebrew nas setup. (no production)
[05:27] <sx66gns> any ideas on troubleshooting amarok having very low volume compared to VLC , rythmbox etc.
[05:28] <saliak> hi!  I had a system that was running of a CF card (for a robot).  it was running for a while without a problem, then i took it apart to do some work on it.  when i re-assembled, it wouldn't boot anymore (it'd hang at the progress bar screen).  I reinstalled ubuntu to another CF card, and can mount the old card (so I copied off everything important).  how can i check/fix whatever errors were keeping it from booting?
[05:28] <aelliott> jughead the command "wget http://whatsmyip.org" will dump your ip into a file called index.html
[05:28] <druid> defrysk, ah so i can delete it ...thanks for the info
[05:28] <aelliott> jughead, just write a simple shell script that does the wget and then uses sendmail to forward the file to you
[05:29] <jughead> aelliott, I have never used sendmail... could I get that to email me the index.html?
[05:29] <saliak> i was thinking i could run fsck, but i'm not sure how to do it on an unmounted usb CF reader
[05:29] <aelliott> jughead, yes thats what its for :) its an email server
[05:29] <jughead> aelliott, do I have to set up sendmail with some kind of email account?  I only use gmail.
[05:29] <aelliott> jughead, im afraid i dont know the command to use off the top of my head, but im sure you can google it
[05:30] <aelliott> jughead you will need a destination account to receive the email, but you don't need to set an account up at your end to use sendmail
[05:30] <HEP85_> beep -f 698.5 -l 25 -D 25 -n -f 698.5 -l 28 -D 144 -n -f 698.5 -l 25 -D 25 -n -f 698.5 -l 28 -D 363 -n -f 987.8 -l 30 -r 4 -D 25 -n -f 493.9 -l 30 -r 7 -D 25
[05:31] <aelliott> jughead, and to automate the task you can just use cron to schedule the script to run as often as you want
[05:31] <tambu> does ubuntu use something instead of truss? doesn't seem to be installed and haven't had any luck searching for it in synaptic
[05:32] <aelliott> jughead, by the way - if you are doing all this because your ip address changes and you don't want your domain to break - there are lots of dynamic dns services on the web
[05:32] <stavrosg> how can I force the -generic kernel to not enable SMP mode ?
[05:32] <jughead> aelliott, yes I need cron to automate this - will wget automatically overwrite the old index.html each time it runs?
[05:32] <KDan_> what command can i type to immediately resync the date/time with a server online?
[05:32] <aelliott> jughead, yes it will overwrite the same file
[05:32] <CPrompt^> hi all.  can someone answer a quick question about dual boot with 2 hard drives?
[05:32] <mind-shift> I want to play DVD with encryption and mpeg's, which package should I install?
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> !dvde
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> hello frnds
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:33] <mind-shift> am I still online+
[05:33] <mind-shift> yep
[05:33] <mind-shift> or?
[05:33] <mind-shift> it's very quiet in here
[05:33] <mind-shift> NOOOOOO, Im talking to myself
[05:33] <JodiH> !fetchmail
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fetchmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <tambu> !truss
[05:33] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it possible to install ubuntu directly from the iso umage without burning it to cd or dvd
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <xtknight> mind-shift, yeah now stop spamming ;)
[05:33] <aelliott> jughead, i assume you have allready looked into using dyndns.org to look after your IP changes? I believe that the service is free if you use one of their domains, but even if you use your own its still pretty cheap
[05:33] <JodiH> !shorewall
[05:33] <xtknight> it's too early and none of us has had his coffee
[05:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:33] <IndyGunFreak> KDan_: i'm not sure there is a command for that.but you can set your clock settings to access a certain time server
[05:34] <jughead> aelliott, yes it's because of a changing IP address.  I have a little fileserver that I setup FreeNX and ssh, etc. on comcast doesn't have static IPs
[05:34] <CPrompt^> got an issue with multiple x.org config files.  Anyone know why that would be?
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> hello all
[05:34] <xtknight> stavrosg, specify "nosmp" on the kernel command line
[05:34] <IndyGunFreak> sil3nt|warri0r: there's a way to do that, but i'm not sure how.
[05:34] <Pretor1ab> is there a way to create dvd's from avi files using ubuntu ?
[05:34] <JodiH> !esmtp
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esmtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <stavrosg> xtknight: thanks
[05:34] <aelliott> jughead, if you can cope with your server having a domain name like jughead.dyndns.org, then you can have this done for free for you
[05:35] <desi4life> hello all
[05:35] <aelliott> jughead, basically you install a client onto your server and it automatically tells dyndns.org everytime your ip changes, they then change the IP address on their DNS servers
[05:35] <desi4life> can anyone suggest a good audio player which has good file management
[05:35] <Pretor1ab> is there a way to create dvd's from avi files using ubuntu ?
[05:36] <nair> amarok is a good one
[05:36] <jughead> thanks aelliott I'm looking into it now.  Are there any downsides to this service that you know of?
[05:36] <aelliott> jughead, take a look at this page - ihttp://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/t might be a good solution for you mate
[05:36] <desi4life> nair: was that an answer to my question?
[05:36] <CPrompt^> hey all.  I just switched out video cards and am having problems getting Linux to boot.  For some reason I have multiple xorg.conf files.
[05:36] <nair> yeap
[05:37] <desi4life> ok thx
[05:37] <nair> np
[05:37] <aelliott> jughead - yes the downsides are 1) you have to pay if you want your own custom domain name ie jughead.com, although it is free to use a subdomain of one of theirs (ie jughead.dyndns.org)
[05:37] <khadim> slt  a tous
[05:37] <khadim> comment installer limewire
[05:38] <aelliott> jughead and 2) there is a short delay before the new DNS record is populated around the planet - when your ip changes it could take 30 min - 2 hours to take effect. I usually find it pretty instant though
[05:38] <CPrompt^> desi4life : also check out DvdAuthor.  That might help as well.  Have to convert the avi to mpeg using something like ffmpeg
[05:38] <aelliott> jughead - but overall using a dynamic dns service is considered to be the best solution to the problem you are dealing with
[05:38] <liquiddoom> jughead: there's also freedns
[05:38] <tambu> Anyone know what package "truss" is part of it didn't come preinstalled apparently.
[05:38] <jughead> thanks aelliott
[05:39] <aelliott> jughead, yes dyndns are only one provider there are others
[05:39] <aelliott> np jughead
[05:39] <CPrompt^> need some help with a new video card.  anyone care to help :(
[05:39] <aelliott> jughead, let us know if you need anything else :)
[05:39] <desi4life> ok i have an issue
[05:39] <desi4life> anyone here use logitech wireless keyboard
[05:40] <desi4life> i get to xwindow login and my keyboard and mouse dont work for like 10-15secs
[05:40] <desi4life> and then eventually they'll start working
[05:40] <nair> is that a nvidia video card or a ati?
[05:40] <desi4life> i have an ati card
[05:40] <CPrompt^> nair : I have an ati
[05:40] <nair> sorry dude I have only used nvidia cards
[05:40] <nair> but I guess that is the same
[05:41] <nair> what do you need?
[05:41] <CPrompt^> yeah.  I think I'll put the nVidia back in.  Got the ATI Raedeon from a friend and thought I'd give it a shot
[05:42] <khadim_> slt a tous
[05:43] <desi4life> anyone know what my issue is?
[05:43] <aelliott> hey guys, does ubuntu have a PAE enabled kernel pre-built? I have 4gb ram but only see 3.5gb.  I don't want to use 64bit.
[05:43] <nair> well that is a 32 bit memory addressing limitation
[05:43] <diam> je voudrais installer limewire
[05:44] <MrTsunami> !fr | diam
[05:44] <ubotu> diam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:44] <nair> it does not matter that OS you use as far as its 32 bit
[05:44] <diam> mais sa passe pas
[05:44] <thebigham> Hello everyone, my ubuntu partition has 140GB, and windows partition has 40 which is not enough, I wanted to redruce the size of the ubuntu partition and add it to windows partition,I have tried Partition Magic and GNOME Partition Editor, and they dont work.
[05:44] <xtknight> !info xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386-pae | aelliott
[05:44] <ubotu> aelliott: xen-hypervisor-3.0-i386-pae: The Xen Hypervisor for i386 (pae enabled version). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-0ubuntu10 (feisty), package size 262 kB, installed size 316 kB
[05:44] <xtknight> that's all i know of
[05:44] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> hey folks!
[05:44] <aelliott> xtknight: thanks mate
[05:44] <xtknight> nair, PAE is supposed to let you use over 4gb virt on a 32bit system
[05:45] <xtknight> tad buggy that's why it's not mainstream i think
[05:45] <xtknight> or maybe just becuse most people dont need it
[05:45] <MrTsunami> thebigham: can you successfully shrink your ubuntu partition?
[05:45] <thebigham> MrTsunami: No =(
[05:45] <nair> I did not know about that :S
[05:45] <gnuskewl> thebigham> try parted
[05:45] <emosamurai> Hi. I'm trying to bittorrent, and azureus tells me that I might have a firewall up preventing me from bittorrent.
[05:45] <thebigham> Gparted?
[05:45] <emosamurai> How do I change that?
[05:46] <emosamurai> And how do I open port 46782 UDP?
[05:46] <xtknight> emosamurai, ubuntu doesn't have any firewall rules by default
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: are you behind a router
[05:46] <emosamurai> Yes.
[05:46] <xtknight> if you're behind a NAT router you must configure that
[05:46] <IndyGunFreak> emosamurai: then you probably need to adjust your router settings.
[05:46] <xtknight> put yourself in DMZ, or forward that port to you MAC/IP
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: you need to access the router and tell it to port forward 46782 to your local ip address
[05:46] <emosamurai> How do I find my local IP address?
[05:46] <xtknight> emosamurai, ifconfig -a
[05:46] <aelliott> emosamurai: ifconfig
[05:47] <DyD_> i am attempting to reroute x through ssh
[05:47] <xtknight> !gparted | thebigham
[05:47] <ubotu> thebigham: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:47] <DyD_> i get two error messages
[05:47] <DyD_> /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/dyd/.Xauthority
[05:47] <MrTsunami> !partitions | thebigham
[05:47] <ubotu> thebigham: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:47] <DyD_> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[05:47] <DyD_> Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[05:47] <gnuskewl> thebigham. tried gparted yet
[05:47] <IndyGunFreak> !paste | DyD_
[05:47] <ubotu> DyD_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so i was in here yesterday looking for the answer about me not being able to resize anything on my desktop ( i am running beryl) someone mentioned to me that it was a flaw with my gfx card and beryl ..can anyone els help me with this?
[05:48] <tambu> Can someone at least say they don't know, to my question i'm getting paranoid my messages aren't being received :) Does anyone know where/how to get truss onto ubuntu? Thx
[05:48] <xtknight> tambu, truss=?
[05:48] <IndyGunFreak> tambu: depends on what your question is?
[05:48] <aelliott> tambu - reading you loud and clear, is truss a software package?
[05:48] <nair> tambu I don't know
[05:48] <gnuskewl> :D
[05:48] <thebigham> I have tried Gpart already
[05:49] <tambu> IndyGunFreak: thx.. I need to install truss. I can't seem to find it pre-installed nor a package for it
[05:49] <xtknight> thebigham, and you cuoldn't shrink a partition?  why not?
[05:49] <royel> tambu: what is truss?
[05:49] <xtknight> thebigham, you might need the tools for the file system
[05:49] <IndyGunFreak> tambu: then you'll likely have to compile it from source
[05:49] <thebigham> its a ext3
[05:49] <xtknight> tambu, i will guide you through compiling it then.  give the URL
[05:49] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, did you use su ?
[05:49] <tambu> aelliott: truss is debug tool for reading the system intput output request for applications
[05:49] <aelliott> tambu: you mean this http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/mansec?1+truss ?
[05:49] <Trigger-Happy> Can I change font color to green in console mode?
[05:49] <xtknight> Trigger-Happy, click edit->current profile
[05:49] <royel> Trigger-Happy: yes
[05:50] <tambu> I've never seen a linux distro that didn't come with it.. I'm a bit surprised nobody has heard of it.
[05:50] <thebigham> i have tried using Gparted with the Live CD, and it didnt work.
[05:50] <xtknight> tambu, not installed by default, surely?
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> what is truss?
[05:50] <DyD_> tobi1canobe: yes
[05:50] <xtknight> i don't see it in debian either
[05:50] <DennisG> hi. ive got a problem :P
[05:50] <DyD_> sudo
[05:50] <Trigger-Happy> No-no, command-line system. plain text
[05:50] <tobi1canobe> and you are trying to ssh -X to some other box from that su session ?
[05:50] <thebigham> and now the resize option for the ubuntu partition is unavailable
[05:50] <gnuskewl> thebigham:re you root
[05:50] <aelliott> tambu: "strace" is supposed to be the linux equivalent command
[05:50] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, ^^
[05:50] <xtknight> Trigger-Happy, oh maybe in ~/.bashrc i dont know
[05:50] <DyD_> oooh
[05:50] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | DennisG
[05:50] <ubotu> DennisG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:50] <DennisG> fglrx dont run correcly
[05:51] <DyD_> i didn't sudo ssh from my local box
[05:51] <tambu> aelliott: ah strace ok thx.. lemme give that a shot :)
[05:51] <DennisG> when i select it, and restart my pc, it says No Signal
[05:51] <DyD_> thanks
[05:51] <DennisG> when it comes to the login screen
[05:51] <xtknight> tambu, and ltrace traces library calls
[05:51] <royel> Trigger-Happy: yeah, you can do that too, although.. I don't recall off top of my head, let me look a minute
[05:51] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> well i can tell thats a tuff one.. so lets slow it down for all our brains on this Sunday morning.... i d/l this rpm and having troubles getting it to work.. any takers?
[05:51] <thebigham> gnuskewl:how can i do that?
[05:51] <tambu> xtknight: thx will try that too
[05:51] <Trigger-Happy> royel, i'll be grateful
[05:52] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: well, that because its anrpm package.... compile it from source to make it .deb, or use alien
[05:52] <DennisG> My graphical card is a ati radeon 9550 btw
[05:52] <tobi1canobe> DyD_, your not suposed to sudo ssh either
[05:52] <DennisG> in ubuntu-nl they cant find a solution
[05:52] <gnuskewl> thebigham: type su b4 the command
[05:52] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indy: thats great... i did know that .. but its been so long since i had to do this... any chance of a step by step .
[05:53] <gnuskewl> thebigham:sudo b4 the command
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: step by step of what?
[05:53] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indyGunFreak: well lets go back to the basics...
[05:53] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: ok, wel,l the basics are, don't download an rpm package
[05:54] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what program is it?
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: after that, a basic is, don't compile packages when you're new, find something in the repos, or pre-compiled
[05:54] <DennisG> fglrx does not work. When i select it and restart my computer, it says "No Signal"
[05:54] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Indy: well thats all good and great info. but its a suse update that has my lissb in there that i need for a program.
[05:54] <DennisG> and then my monitor goes into standbye. But the computer is still running
[05:54] <IndyGunFreak> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: are you using ubuntu?
[05:55] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> indy: yes i am .. and yes i know its a suse update..
[05:55] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: you can use apt-get -alien i believe to open an RPM, but you are better off googling for the name of the library you need + the word ubuntu
[05:55] <IndyGunFreak> !alien | Vsop_vsop_vsop_v
[05:55] <ubotu> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:56] <DennisG> nobody who can help me?
[05:56] <arpegius> what do most ppl use these days for managing id3s from the command line?
[05:56] <GOD> boker tov
[05:56] <amishjim> AELLIOTT: THATS ALWAYS A GOOD SEARCH PHRASE, TOO MANY DONT EVEN TRY IT
[05:56] <amishjim> oops srry caps
[05:56] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | DennisG
[05:56] <ubotu> DennisG: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:56] <emosamurai> Does anybody know how to hack a router? I forgot my username and password.
[05:57] <aelliott> amishjim: forums would be empty if people searched properly :P
[05:57] <aelliott> emosamurai: look for a reset button :)
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> aelliott: well, not completely.., but it'd be pretty boring here.
[05:57] <emosamurai> Oh... okay.
[05:57] <GOD> emos : use the reset button on the bottom
[05:57] <unix4me> Hi. I have 6.10.  When I try to update to 7.04 this pops up: Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server.
[05:57] <GOD> or back
[05:57] <amishjim> lol yea
[05:57] <nair> their muts be a reseat button in your router or check the manual of the router
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am aware of the issues and implications of using rpm, but i need One pck that i cant find in apt-get cache ssl
[05:57] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: i'd guess there may be a problem with the network or with the server
[05:57] <aelliott> emosamurai: its not exactly "hacking" but it should work :)
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i meant Search!!
[05:58] <aelliott> emosamurai: remember that you will lose all your existing settings when you do it though
[05:58] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: but I'm on the internet perfectly right now.
[05:58] <DennisG> IndyGunFreak, i wanna keep gnome ;)
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: maybe the problem is on their end
[05:58] <alaQ> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: what package are you looking for?
[05:58] <GOD> emos, or you could try to dl the firmware and decyript the pass from there
[05:58] <IndyGunFreak> DennisG: are you just trying to install the ATi driver, or install BeryL?
[05:58] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I fix that?
[05:58] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> one sec::
[05:59] <GOD> or just try admin:admin admin:password
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: well, you don't.. the problem is on THEIR end...
[05:59] <DennisG> ati driver dont work, it dont support opengl very well
[05:59] <nair> is their a tool to make *.deb from rpms?
[05:59] <DennisG> it give errors when i wanna play sofII
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> DennisG: ati's driver sucks, always has, probably always will(or at least fr the forseeable future)
[05:59] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | DennisG
[05:59] <ubotu> DennisG: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <GOD> or you could even ask the owner what the password is
[05:59] <DennisG> thnx
[05:59] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: So what should I do?
[05:59] <NapsteR> hi all
[05:59] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ala@: i am looking for libssl0.9.6
[05:59] <daedra> hello
[05:59] <skollie> !rpm | nair
[05:59] <ubotu> nair: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:59] <NapsteR> how can i enable my desktop effects?
[06:00] <unix4me> what do the ops do?
[06:00] <puzzle> hi, somebody use notebook hp?
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> unix4me: uh, find another server..., mabe download the full version of Feisty, and do a clean install, wait out the problem, i don't know, what do you want to do?
[06:00] <xtknight> puzzle, i use an hp dv2000
[06:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> when i search for it all i get is libssl0.9.7
[06:00] <unix4me> NapsteR: system>preferences>desktop effects
[06:00] <skollie> puzzle: I have one, yes
[06:00] <NapsteR> i know that
[06:00] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I find another server?
[06:00] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> and ya seems not to be the right one..
[06:00] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/oldlibs/libssl0.9.6
[06:00] <alaQ> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: any specific reason you need 0.9.6?
[06:00] <NapsteR> but it doesnt work
[06:00] <IndyGunFreak> don't know unix
[06:00] <alaQ> or just follow aelliott's link.
[06:00] <NapsteR> i have an x1900xt videocard
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> ala yahoo..
[06:01] <NapsteR> and i cant enable them
[06:01] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: thats for breezy. what version of Ubuntu are you on
[06:01] <GOD> ala?
[06:01] <unix4me> NapsteR: you need intel or nvidia.
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Sorry
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> alaQ: i ment to say
[06:01] <NapsteR> i have an intel pentium d940
[06:01] <NapsteR> 64bit
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sheesh
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> ATI sucks for Linux, when will people learn
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am on 6.10
[06:01] <unix4me> NapsteR: I meen the graphics card. Sorry :P
[06:01] <GOD> oh, thaught u were calling me
[06:01] <quaal> ati sucks for more than linux
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> HAHAH GOD
[06:01] <GOD> :)
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> NICE
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: lol, well true, but sucking at Linux is near te top of the list
[06:02] <_wattazoum_> IndyGunFreak, some times people doesn't have the choice
[06:02] <NapsteR> i have payed 500$ for this video card....
[06:02] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: lol, thats a very handy co-incidence
[06:02] <unix4me> IndyGunFreak: how do I choose a different server?
[06:02] <NapsteR> and know people said that sucks
[06:02] <puzzle> xtknight and skollie, which modem yous uses?
[06:02] <DennisG> IndyGunFreak, i know how to change from driver, but when i use fglrx, and i restart gnome, the monitor says No signal and goes into standbyem, but the computer is still running
[06:02] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> and whats the big hype with ATI i am running ati X1400 and it works just fine
[06:02] <xtknight> puzzle, hmm i dont use a modem
[06:02] <IndyGunFreak> _wattazoum_: then why come here and complain when it doesn't work?.. use the generic driver and be happy, i done it for a long time when i had ATI
[06:02] <xtknight> puzzle, only ethernet and wireless
[06:02] <skollie> puzzle: I use a pci wireless modem
[06:02] <NapsteR> i dont know whats a generic driver
[06:03] <_wattazoum_> IndyGunFreak : I have an ATI too, and open source drivers works too
[06:03] <NapsteR> so?
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> "<aelliott> forums would be empty if people searched properly :P" If they did, there would be no forums to google from and IRC channels would be packed ;D
[06:03] <daedra> ATi sucks
[06:03] <aelliott> ViljasenMatti:  touche! :)
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> no, ati doesn't suck
[06:03] <NapsteR> how can i make them work?
[06:03] <ViljasenMatti> IMO ;)
[06:03] <IndyGunFreak> _wattazoum_: ok... funny, there's a lot of questions in here about ATI, every single day.., and Nvidia questions are usually solved in about 5min
[06:03] <FreckledP> yes ATI sucks
[06:03] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> aelliott: sorry i missed your statement.. whats a very hand co-incidence?
[06:03] <_wattazoum_> It 's no use to just say ATI sucks
[06:03] <FreckledP> :)
[06:04] <GOD> i prefer an IBM chipset
[06:04] <allquixotic_away> is there a package that will nip my toenails for me?
[06:04] <daedra> even their windows drivers don't fully utilise the power of their cards
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: arnt you using Breezy?
[06:04] <pSychlome> Can someone tell me how it was to refresh apt?
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry no i am useing edgy
[06:04] <NapsteR> so noone can help me?
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v:  oh i see lol, sorry
[06:04] <quaal> allquixotic, yes its called a woman
[06:04] <pSychlome> I`ve put a new sources.list
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Aelliott: wow whats that sorry for?
[06:04] <royel> Trigger-Happy: I'm not having much luck, I was thinking it was something in ~.bashrc, that does change the prompt colors, but I haven't got one to change my text colors... yet!
[06:04] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:04] <aelliott> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: try downloading the package from that link, it should still install fine
[06:04] <allquixotic> quaal: you are lucky that I am not a woman :-)
[06:04] <puzzle> skollie, but which modem use notebook beyond ethernet and wireless?
[06:04] <pinkdoll> hello
[06:04] <daedra> !woman
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about woman - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <_wattazoum_> pSychlome : sudo apt-get update
[06:04] <allquixotic> LOL daedra
[06:04] <silvertip257> quaal:  has fios?
[06:04] <quaal> allquixotic, women dont know how to use the internets
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> uh, that was that ATI problem again?
[06:05] <skollie> puzzle: what do you mean?
[06:05] <pSychlome> _wattazoum_: thanks alot
[06:05] <alaQ> ubotu must be lonely... :)
[06:05] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> fawn really dont like my laptop.. well i should say my gfx card
[06:05] <Trigger-Happy> royel, thanks i'll continue my quest alone :-)
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> that=what
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, correct
[06:05] <silvertip257> quaal:  nice =)
[06:05] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, mine?
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, yep.. 20/5 i'm happy
[06:05] <NapsteR> i cant enable my desktop effects
[06:05] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, tell me
[06:05] <_wattazoum_> NapsteR : fill a bug on Launchpad
[06:05] <silvertip257> quaal:  20 hrs / 5 days ?
[06:05] <IndyGunFreak> NapsteR: what kind of graphics device?
[06:05] <NapsteR> radeon x100xt
[06:05] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti,  when i use fglrx, and i restart gnome, the monitor says No signal and goes into standbyem, but the computer is still running
[06:05] <GOD> 82845g/gl IBM Graphics chipset
[06:05] <quaal> silvertip257, 20mbps down 5mbps up
[06:06] <NapsteR> 1900
[06:06] <NapsteR> srry
[06:06] <aelliott> NapsteR: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor and tell us what driver you have set up
[06:06] <NapsteR> x1900xt
[06:06] <_wattazoum_> lol ATI :p
[06:06] <silvertip257> oh lol quaal ... mighty price tag on it right?
[06:06] <quaal> 49/mo
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, so that means it boots just fine?
[06:06] <quaal> only 5more than my cable was
[06:06] <IndyGunFreak> another ati problem.. hmm.
[06:06] <DennisG> yeah
[06:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so ya.. not that i got some attention with a silly question.. what about the fact that i cant resize anything on my desktop..
[06:06] <DennisG> when it goes to toe login part
[06:06] <silvertip257> not so bad quaal .. not much more than cable
[06:06] <DennisG> it says no signal
[06:06] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> Now**
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> now, that's weird
[06:06] <ViljasenMatti> what's your system conf?
[06:06] <tambu> Thx guys, strace helped solve my problem, and I just realized that truss is on solaris :P my bad. I've been working on this too long :P
[06:06] <allquixotic> hmm.
[06:06] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, you mean xorg.conf?
[06:06] <allquixotic> sean@vk5rms:~$ apt-cache search woman
[06:06] <allquixotic> sean@vk5rms:~$
[06:07] <aelliott> tambu: glad to hear it
[06:07] <Shoopuf> Would a cheap Sound Blaster card be more compatible with Ubuntu than my ASUS on-board sound?
[06:07] <ViljasenMatti> no, I mean your graphics adapter an such
[06:07] <NapsteR> i have the latest driver
[06:07] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> tambu: most times its just great to walk away ... go for a puff and clear ya head then come back to it.. works wonders
[06:07] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, its a ati radeon 9550GE
[06:07] <IndyGunFreak> Shoopuf: whats wrong with your onboards ound?
[06:07] <NapsteR> how can i make them work?
[06:08] <FreckledP> DennisG, has it ever worked?
[06:08] <DennisG> no, not in linux
[06:08] <tambu> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: I don't smoke... perhaps thats my problem :P
[06:08] <DennisG> on windows, yes.
[06:08] <aelliott> ubotu, tell NapsteR about ati
[06:08] <Shoopuf> IndyGunFreak: Quake 1, NEStopia, Frets of Fire all have sound problems, also the only way for me to adjust the sound is through "Speaker 1" (which is the combination of the 8 channels)
[06:08] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> i am running beryl and and someone said that there is a flaw with beryl and my gfx card...  can anyone concur with this?
[06:08] <allquixotic> !ati
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, that should work with the open driver (mine is Mob Radeon 9600 Pro), do you especially need fglrx?
[06:08] <NapsteR> i have installed the latest drivers
[06:08] <puzzle> somebody use modem SmartCP for Conexant?
[06:08] <FreckledP> DennisG, so when you go to boot the install disc, it doesn't display anything after the system boot.... at about the login screen
[06:09] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> tambu: well hey not that i would recomend that.. but if you think thats goin to help
[06:09] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, yes, otherwise opengl dont work
[06:09] <allquixotic> NapsterR: what do you get when you run glxinfo | grep direct
[06:09] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, what ubu version?
[06:09] <sivik> ok, we had to move someones /var folder to its own partition and now the customer is complaining about mail recieving is delay, is there somewhere in a mail configure file or cpanel where we can or need to change something, is this an issue with cpanel or the os?
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> Shoopuf: that might be a wine issue, does your sound work otherwise.. with native programs?
[06:09] <NapsteR> i get direct rendering: Yes
[06:09] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, 7.04, and i get this error: http://imgdumper.com/index.php?p=view&id=8154
[06:09] <simonaG> hi all
[06:09] <FFForever> how do i see how big a folder is from the command line?, it just says 4kb.....
[06:09] <aelliott> NapsteR: are glxgears fast when you run them?
[06:09] <skollie> puzzle: if you're looking for a driver, google 'conexant ubuntu'
[06:10] <royel> Trigger-Happy: setterm looks promising: setterm --help for more info
[06:10] <NapsteR> i dont know what are they :((
[06:10] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sorry to push.. but kinda silly that i cant resze anything on my desktop..
[06:10] <allquixotic> aelliott: glxinfo reports direct rendering: Yes for him, so that isn't really necessar
[06:10] <Shoopuf> IndyGunFreak: all those games are linux versions, but sound does work with other programs yes. I just find it peculiar that I have to adjust the sound through "Speaker 1" and not "Speaker" in the Alsa Mixer.
[06:10] <NapsteR> glxgears
[06:10] <nicholas76> Hello. I have Windows Vista Home Premium on my computer and  want to install Ubuntu. I have used the Live CD and it works great. I was wondering...After Ubuntu is installed, will GRUB detect Vista automatically?
[06:10] <pyrokay> hey guys, i has a trvial problem, in that i can't move my mouse - it worked fine before, and i had to do a hrad reboot, and now it just doesn't work.
[06:10] <sivik> nicholas76, yes
[06:10] <nicholas76> Are you sure?
[06:10] <allquixotic> aelliott: NapsterR: I frankly don't know whether the default desktop effects uses Beryl or Compiz, but you should try switching from one to the other
[06:10] <sivik> nicholas76, at least it has with the older versions of winblows
[06:10] <alaQ> nicholas76: yes.  Running dual-booted here.
[06:10] <nicholas76> No additional setup?
[06:10] <Seoke> Whats the terminal command to delete a folder?
[06:11] <pyrokay> rm -r
[06:11] <FFForever> nicholas76, grub found my vista home basic
[06:11] <FFForever> :D
[06:11] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, so you want to play games :) that's a good reason fglrx :D
[06:11] <DennisG> Seoke, , rm -rf
[06:11] <nicholas76> Cool
[06:11] <nicholas76> Thanks
[06:11] <NapsteR> ok i will try
[06:11] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, ok
[06:11] <NapsteR> thanks
[06:11] <sivik> nicholas76, as long as u install the grub on the mba and not on the partition u should be good to go
[06:11] <nicholas76> That helps :-)
[06:11] <Nicke> FFForever: du -sh folder
[06:11] <Seoke> Dennis6: Where do I put the path to the folder at?
[06:11] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, but it just dont works. When i set the friver to fglrx, and i restart gnome, it says No signal
[06:11] <mind-shift> Is there a SIMPLE painting program written in gtk?
[06:11] <mind-shift> Any recommendations?
[06:11] <mind-shift> If I could bring 2 programs from qt, I would have Konversation and Kolourpaint
[06:12] <daedra> hey how about rmdir
[06:12] <alaQ> mind-shift: gpaint?
[06:12] <aelliott> mind-shift: isn't GNU paint a gtk app?
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> mind-shift: you can install those programs on Gnome, it will install the KDE libraries necessary to run it... I use Amarok, because its probably the best IPOD tool there is(IMO)..
[06:12] <daedra> hey my /media/sda3/music/Sigur Rs/()/Untitled 1
[06:12] <daedra> whoops
[06:13] <pyrokay> heh
[06:13] <daedra> just messing with autocomplete
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> only KDE apps I use is Ktorrent, Amarok
[06:13] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, how familiar are you with xorg.conf?
[06:13] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, im not.
[06:14] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, have you modified it?
[06:14] <DennisG> yes and no... they said some things in ubtuntu-nl
[06:14] <Injen> Anyone notice any mirc scripting "socket" problems running mirc under wine? :/
[06:14] <cyberphaz> why would you want to use mirc under wine?
[06:15] <nicholas76> Ubuntu is awesome! All you Windows fans, come on and switch (You can dual-boot.) to Ubuntu!!!
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, what outputs does your card have?
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, dvi, vga, tv-out etc
[06:15] <zac> no fake, nicholas
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> Injen: why in the world do you run IRc under wine?
[06:15] <DennisG> dvi, vga, tv out
[06:15] <ViljasenMatti> nicholas76, I think we all know that
[06:15] <alaQ> nicholas76: preachin' to the choir here, buddy :)
[06:15] <_wattazoum_> nicholas76, is on the place :-p
[06:16] <zac> there should be no reason to run mIRC under WINE
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> Injen: running IRC w/ wine, is a bit like putting a chevette engine in a corvette
[06:16] <Injen> I'm just curious in theory, I notice some of my script don't work on nix
[06:16] <zac> you have XCHat
[06:16] <zac> which is the best IRC client anyways
[06:16] <Injen> Nah
[06:16] <cyberphaz> kvirc is nie too
[06:16] <pyrokay> *cough* irsssi
[06:16] <Injen> :P
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> xchat, xchat-gnome, irssi, bitchx, and several others
[06:16] <daedra> irssi
[06:16] <aelliott> irssi
[06:16] <Injen> If khaled made a nix version, mirc wns
[06:16] <FFForever> how do i make a folder "link"
[06:16] <cyberphaz> i like kvirc since its very similar to mirc :P
[06:16] <Injen> irssi,, you should be ashamed
[06:16] <IndyGunFreak> irssi is to bare for me.... i need a least a little bit of a GUI..lol
[06:17] <alaQ> konversation.
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> whats the kdE irc client, konversation?
[06:17] <zacdavis> sometimes i feel like going full terminal though
[06:17] <daedra> well some people are in #ubuntu to get xserver to work... so they NEED irssi
[06:17] <aelliott> if your installing gentoo or something like that, then terminal IRC is pretty useful
[06:17] <zyth> daedra, xchat-text works too ;)
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: i didn't say irssi didn't have its place, just saying unless i absolutely had to use it, i wouldn't use it.
[06:17] <daedra> its best to learn the bare minimum just incase you need to one day
[06:17] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: now i do agree with that.
[06:18] <Injen> Sorry, im just salty, because I was one of those few to be owned by irssi implanted backdoor, Ill trust eating nails for iron before irssi, again.
[06:18] <aelliott> in ubuntu its not as necessary, but still worth having - what if your X server breaks and you need help?
[06:18] <Injen> telnet irc :/ :P
[06:18] <aelliott> lol :)
[06:18] <Injen> Not practical on some networks, but yall dont ping here
[06:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> so do i need to ask if there is a beryl guru in the room??
[06:18] <ibb217> hoi
[06:18] <ubuntu> What kind of backdoor with irssi? :O
[06:18] <Injen> Google it,
[06:18] <Injen> then bastard
[06:18] <Shoopuf> Vsop_vsop_vsop_v: Try #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <Injen> them bastards*
[06:18] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> that dont help me
[06:18] <daedra> backdoor eh
[06:19] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> or does it
[06:19] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:19] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti ?
[06:19] <_wattazoum_> hehe , ubotu is fun
[06:19] <alaQ> irssi (or weechat in ncurses for others) through ssh.
[06:19] <daedra> alaQ: how do you do that?
[06:19] <mz--> hi.  attempting to do a reinstall, booted off the livecd, when double clicking the 'install' icon, i get the error "failed to exec new process: exec format error".  any ideas?
[06:19] <ViljasenMatti> DennisG, can you attach more than one display to your card?
[06:19] <DennisG> yeah
[06:19] <Housito> Hi to everybody from spain
[06:20] <pyrokay> mz--, tried rebooting?
[06:20] <zacdavis> mz--: try rebooting
[06:20] <mz--> pyrokay: ill give it a shot
[06:20] <alaQ> daedra: have either irssi or weechat installed on the host box, ssh to it, and then run it.
[06:20] <DennisG> ViljasenMatti, yeah
[06:20] <Housito> know something about a ubuntu keyboard with the replacement of the windows key?
[06:21] <aelliott> Housito: no but it would be cool
[06:21] <daedra> so in order to use ssh you need two boxes?
[06:21] <nicholas76> Housito, not that i know of
[06:21] <aelliott> either that or a nice "M$" symbol on it :)
[06:21] <pc_> Bonjour  tous, j' ai du mal  lire certaines videos du fait d'un manque de codecs.
[06:21] <nicholas76> xD
[06:21] <cyberphaz> you can ssh on your loopback device :P
[06:21] <Pici> !fr | pc_
[06:21] <Housito> damn...
[06:21] <ubotu> pc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:21] <Housito> i think will be cool =P
[06:21] <alaQ> daedra: it was a situation for me, because I had to pass my college's overly-conservative firewall. :/
[06:21] <pc_> Comment les obtenir ???
[06:21] <nicholas76> Housito: yep
[06:21] <daedra> cyberphaz: could you walk me through that?
[06:22] <daedra> !fr > pc_
[06:22] <William7532> Does anyone have any experience editing their xorg.conf to get a widescreen monitor to work?
[06:22] <_wattazoum_> !fr | pc_
[06:22] <ubotu> pc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> wow there is like no one in that channel
[06:22] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> lol
[06:22] <pyrokay> alaQ, what sort of firewall? is 443 forwarded?
[06:22] <Housito> and too another question, how to buy ubuntu stickers says "Powered by Ubuntu" my LoCo team haven't (Spain)
[06:22] <cyberphaz> no, but setup an ssh server and use the client to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> would work :P
[06:22] <nicholas76> Housito: It should be the Ubuntu symbol and it does something special in Ubuntu 7.10 :P
[06:22] <alaQ> pyrokay: we had 21-23, 80, 443, and 6000 open.  that was it.
[06:22] <daedra> cyberphaz: cheers
[06:22] <nitrocks> i'm having a weird issue.. for some reason the other day i stopped getting network access on my ubuntu box running feisty.  I am running a wired connection to my onboard ethernet port from a linksys wrt54g.  i took a look at ifconfig output and it only shows three interfaces lo, vmnet1, and vmnet8.  There is no eth0 present, which is odd because it used to be there.  does anyone have suggestions?
[06:22] <pc_> ubotu : merci  toi !
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about merci  toi ! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <pyrokay> lucky, i only got 443 with proxy forwarding, you should have no problems
[06:23] <_wattazoum_> pc, c'est un bot
[06:23] <Housito> hahahaha yes nicholas76
[06:23] <Housito> if open the apps menu be cool... or the console lol
[06:23] <_wattazoum_> pc_, ubotu est un bot
[06:23] <Housito> terminal* sorry
[06:23] <daedra> lulz
[06:23] <aelliott> Housito:  http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/ has a few ubuntu stickers - not "powered by" though
[06:24] <zacdavis> i am making some powered by Ubuntu t-shirts
[06:24] <Housito> thx aelliott  so the problem is, i have 4 from my cd request
[06:24] <nicholas76> Housito: Let's rip out the windows key and stick in a special key with nothing on it, then put on an Ubuntu sticker on it lol
[06:24] <ViljasenMatti> I gotta go, see ya later
[06:24] <daedra> cyberphaz: so what would I type in terminal for ssh? ssh <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:25] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> sheeesh not a soul,,, tff
[06:25] <Housito> and i want a sticks for put yn my new laptop
[06:25] <William7532> Anyone know how to edit an xorg.conf file to get wide screen resolutions working?
[06:25] <pyrokay> need to buy6 a mouse on a sunday, the suxx0rs
[06:25] <zacdavis> nicholas76: you could do that, I know how to make keys for desktop keyboards
[06:25] <Housito> nicholas76, LOL oh god, thats cool so... a bit bit dificult
[06:25] <pyrokay> William, what resolution? and ubuntu 7.04?
[06:25] <William7532> 1680x1050 and yes
[06:25] <genefitz> William are you using an Acer monitor?
[06:26] <William7532> no LG
[06:26] <aelliott> daedra: localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> or your hostname will all work fine
[06:26] <fishbuntu> in kubuntu, when i make a resolution change, it doesn't appear to take effect immediately.  it's a VM and i dont have vmtools installed yet but is there something i need to type to refresh the new settings?
[06:26] <Housito> what is the best desktop GNOME or KDE?
[06:26] <allquixotic> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:27] <cyberphaz> xfce :P
[06:27] <Shoopuf> fishbuntu: get vmtools
[06:27] <Pici> Housito: its a matter of preference really.
[06:27] <cyberphaz> there is no best desktop it depends on what you prefer to use
[06:27] <aelliott> Housito: i vote Gnome
[06:27] <genefitz> I had the same problem with my acer al1916w (not getting 1440x900. There is a article about it in the ubuntu forum...
[06:27] <mind-shift> alaQ: Gpaint doesn't have the right feeling to it.
[06:27] <mind-shift> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, but I want a pure gnome desktop
[06:27] <allquixotic> Housito, that debate has been raging on for 5 or 6 years (maybe longer), but it's not an objective question
[06:27] <fishbuntu> i will but in ubuntu it doesnt require it to refresh resolutions.. was wondering if it was the same
[06:27] <William7532> the odd thing is that when I went into xorg.conf it had all the right resolutions in there, and had detected my monitor but the resolution selection gui still only has 4:3 options.
[06:27] <ormandj> not really ubuntu related, but perhaps someone here might know, is there a site where you can grab oggs/flacs of independant electronic music? ie - legal stuff
[06:27] <pyrokay> William7532, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and follow the instructions very, very carefully. if you have problems, ctrl + alt + f1 and sudo apt-get install irssi and come back here.
[06:27] <genefitz> It should work for any monitor, you just have to go to their site to get the correct H-Sync and V-sync.
[06:28] <Housito> allquixotic, i know this question is old and a bit stupid so somethimes its good know the opinion of anothers persons
[06:28] <zyth> ormandj, www.legaltorrents.com has some
[06:28] <allquixotic> http://www.ormandj have you tried AnywhereCd ?
[06:28] <ormandj> zyth: i'll go look there, thank you kindly
[06:28] <pyrokay> Housito, what's your favourite colour?
[06:28] <ormandj> allquixotic: never heard of it
[06:28] <genefitz> After that, it is just a sudo gedit xorg config command
[06:28] <allquixotic> oops
[06:28] <fishbuntu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:28] <allquixotic> ormandj didn't mean to http your name lol
[06:28] <ormandj> it's ok :p
[06:28] <Housito> black or ble lol
[06:28] <wepeel> off-topic question, but I hope someone will answer. Is there a channel that I can ask a notebook-hardware question on?
[06:28] <pyrokay> kde it is ^_^
[06:28] <William7532> I ran dpkg-reconfigure last night again and it picked out the right resolutions but I still didn't get the options in the gui
[06:29] <Pici> wepeel: ##hardware perhaps
[06:29] <wepeel> PIci: thanks
[06:29] <allquixotic> ormandj AnywhereCD is the name of the site. try that or eMusic - both "independent" non-DRM music stores
[06:29] <pyrokay> you have to press space when you pick out the resolutions to star them, try that
[06:29] <ormandj> wepeel: there are tons of really great laptop forums out there, i had the same question the other day. i just searched google for laptop review, laptop forums, etc - found tons
[06:29] <igorgue> what's the effect that is alike expose in mac os?
[06:29] <William7532> what does the -phigh switch do?
[06:29] <wepeel> PIci: sorry, thanks!
[06:29] <ormandj> ok allquixotic, awesome, thanks :)
[06:29] <Pici> wepeel: no problem
[06:29] <xtknight> William7532, only shows high priority questions
[06:29] <Housito> i have to go, take care everybody nice chat
[06:29] <wepeel> ormandj: I've got a really specific one, this time :) I'm gonna try #hardware
[06:29] <pyrokay> William7532, i have no idea, but it specifies it in xorg.conf, at the top
[06:29] <daedra> aelliott: I get connection refused when I try ssh localhost
[06:30] <ormandj> wepeel: well, less audience on irc than on a forum, but best of luck to you! :)
[06:30] <pyrokay> daedra, did you enable ssh in ssh_d?
[06:30] <igorgue> what's the effect that is alike expose in mac os?
[06:30] <pyrokay> i don't understand the question
[06:30] <Injen> William7532: In your x.org under "monitor" section, do you have these lines in there: 	HorizSync	28-73
[06:30] <Injen> 	VertRefresh	43-60
[06:30] <William7532> ahh my xorg.conf file seems to be correct though it has the right resolutions its got the right vertical and horizontal sync
[06:30] <xtknight> !effects | igorgue
[06:30] <William7532> yes different values though
[06:30] <Injen> Ahh
[06:30] <ubotu> igorgue: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:30] <xtknight> igorgue, it's one of the features of beryl and compiz
[06:30] <aelliott> daedra are you sure ssh is running? do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start"
[06:31] <wepeel> ormandj: that's true, I'm hoping to minimize time but might have to settle for minimized frustration
[06:31] <genefitz> William there should be a section for native resolution..
[06:31] <metalspy> exit
[06:31] <ormandj> wepeel: what's the question, btw?
[06:31] <igorgue> ok thanks
[06:31] <genefitz> I had to change the options in resolution and add the 1440x900
[06:31] <William7532> ok what does a native resolution section look like?
[06:31] <fishbuntu> is it possible to set Gaim to dock to the side of the desktop similar to AIM?
[06:31] <genefitz> it is under monitor, there are is a list of several resolutions available..
[06:32] <wepeel> ormandj: whether or not I can use PC2700 RAM instead of PC2100 in my laptop
[06:32] <mz--> hi.  attempting to do a reinstall, booted off the livecd, when double clicking the 'install' icon, i get the error "failed to exec new process: exec format error".  rebooted and tried again.  same problem.  any thoughts?  burn a new install disc?
[06:32] <William7532> I also saw some stuff about "MetaModes" or something like that in a forum post
[06:32] <ormandj> wepeel: bud, i can probably answer that for you, just msg me the model/etc and i'll find out for you
[06:32] <pyrokay> mz--, try verifying your disk at the ubuntu bootscreen
[06:32] <aelliott> mz--: the live CD has a "check disk for errors option" have you done it yet?
[06:32] <genefitz> add your native resolution to the list, and you should, directly under the monitor name see "native"
[06:32] <mz--> pyrokay: ok,
[06:32] <mz--> aelliott: ok def, thx
[06:32] <William7532> ok never seen resolution settings in Monitor before, what is the key? NativeResolution?
[06:32] <pyrokay> what aelliott said is the same thing btw ^_^
[06:33] <William7532> ok
[06:33] <mz--> pyrokay: yeah, but thanking people is important :]
[06:33] <pyrokay> yeah, it's always nice. my mouse still doesn't work. might be a bios thing.
[06:33] <genefitz> should say nativeresolution also you have to add your resolution to the list of resolutions available.
[06:33] <Injen> William7532: You got your horizontal and vertical values from a ddcprobe right?
[06:34] <Vsop_vsop_vsop_v> YAY i got it fixed.. thanks for whoever gave me that #ubuntu-effects channel
[06:34] <daedra> aelliott: I get ..fail! when I try and start ssh via sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:34] <genefitz> Note: before you make any changes, make sure you do a backup of your xorg
[06:34] <William7532> the right resolutions are in the screen sections
[06:34] <pyrokay> daedra, you have to enable ssh and then turn it on
[06:34] <William7532> I got the syncs from the manual for my monitor
[06:34] <aelliott> daedra: ok thats not a problem, its allready running then
[06:34] <daedra> pyrokay: how?
[06:35] <aelliott> daedra: type "ps -aux | grep ssh" and tell us what you see
[06:35] <daedra> aelliott: no its not running, sudo killall ssh does nothing
[06:35] <aelliott> daedra: when the daemon is running it should be called sshd i think
[06:35] <mz--> ok, cpu is crashing during the defects check.  i'm going to go ahead and assume hte cd is hosed.
[06:35] <pyrokay> daedra, brb
[06:36] <Injen> William7532:make sure its the same as listed in a ddcprobe, that has solved the majority of my monitor ills.
[06:36] <William7532> ok I'll try that... the "Native" thing didn't work though
[06:36] <aelliott> mz--: i agree it sounds like it is - i think if you check the downloads page it tells you how to check that the ISO you downloaded is not corrupt using md5
[06:36] <daedra_> aelliott: I see this: root     11456  0.0  0.0   5088   952 ?        Ss   17:32   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:37] <mz--> aelliott: thing thats throwing me off base, is ive used this cd about a dozen times already for installs
[06:37] <mz--> aelliott: im just more concerned that its a hardware error than a disc error
[06:37] <aelliott> ok daedra_ that means it is running
[06:37] <daedra_> k
[06:37] <daedra_> well what do I do now to launch irssi in ssh
[06:38] <aelliott> daedra_:  try typing "hostname" to get your hostname, then do ssh followed by the hostname
[06:39] <Syntax_Error> hello, i have troubles with phpmyadmin, whatever user i try for login, it trys tu login using "www-data", what could be responsible for that?
[06:40] <Zhamz> my system won't boot after compiling latest kernel
[06:40] <Zhamz> hangs on the first ubuntu splash!
[06:40] <Zhamz> this is 5th compile with no luck
[06:40] <Zhamz> following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158&highlight=master+kernel
[06:41] <daedra> aelliott: ok - some success but now I get "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[06:41] <mind-shift> How do I install this program in ubuntu?   http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/mtPaint
[06:42] <damir> hi all , how can i play dvd on my laptop , what codecs do i need ?
[06:42] <Pici> mind-shift: sudo apt-get install mtpaint
[06:42] <aelliott> daedra, do you have another machine on the network that you can try logging in from? it might help troubleshoot this problem
[06:42] <Pici> mind-shift: its in the repos already :)
[06:42] <daedra> aelliott: yea
[06:42] <daedra> aelliott: how would I go about that
[06:43] <aelliott> daedra is it a windows machine?
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: yep
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: but I can run a live linux or whatever if need be
[06:43] <aelliott> daedra: ok you need to download putty from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[06:43] <mind-shift> Pici: I can't find it
[06:43] <mind-shift> Pici: It's not there
[06:43] <daedra> aelliott: ok
[06:43] <daedra> brb
[06:43] <William7532> ok so I just got back into my box but I don't seem to have ddcprobe, what package is it under for apt-get?
[06:43] <thebigham> How come my video quality is so crappy???
[06:44] <aelliott> daedra: its a windows ssh client, its very good - its also a single file so no need to install it, just download and run
[06:44] <Pici> mind-shift: er, sorry, its in Gutsy, not Feisty.
[06:44] <daedra_> test
[06:44] <defcon> gnome-network manager problem: Ok i have my wireless connection on wlan0 and for some reason the nm-applet does not connect me to the internet, I had to add wireless-key open <KEY> and then ifdown wlan0 then ifupwlan0 to connect, why doesnt nm-applet work? I have tried using anscii and hexidecimal keys and I select the right access point with no luck
[06:44] <mind-shift> how do I acces gutsy repos?
[06:44] <mind-shift> access
[06:45] <aelliott> daedra: you also need to use the ipaddress of your linux box as the target, find it by doing "ifconfig -a" on your linux box. It will show up under eth0 probably as the "inet addr"
[06:45] <damir> how can i plaY DVD ON UBUNTU 7.04 ?
[06:45] <aelliott> daedra: you type the ip of the linux box into the hostname box in putty, and it should connect you
[06:45] <Pici> !dvd > damir (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:47] <arpegius> i seem to have my wireless card connected to my wpa2 network. when i check out the ifconfig list, i see eth0 and ra0 and they both have dhcp-assigned address. however, when i disconnect the wired connection, i cannot ssh/smb/anything to ra0's assigned address. what could be going on here?
[06:47] <obf213> what command is like the alt tab in windows
[06:48] <arpegius> obf213: alt tab i thought....
[06:48] <obf213> no that is the same thing except instead of the windows on the pageit shows u desktops that way
[06:48] <obf213> so like switch throuhg different desktops, i was wondering if there was  a command that did that for the windows
[06:49] <arpegius> obf213: ah... dunno then. its been a while since i've been in the gui.
[06:49] <macuser> excuse me i have a question about ubuntu
[06:49] <daedra> aelliott: ok I've ssh'd into my linux box from windows
[06:49] <daedra> (putty)
[06:49] <daedra> aelliott: now what?
[06:49] <jussi01> DaRk: please dont do that....
[06:49] <DaRk> lol thats cewl
[06:49] <macuser> Can you run ubunto an a macintosh with the powerpc arcitecture?
[06:49] <aelliott> daedra: ok cool, so we know ssh is definately working
[06:50] <wahdff> DaRk
[06:50] <wahdff> ^^
[06:50] <wahdff> da DaRk
[06:50] <wahdff> xD
[06:50] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I'd like to tell gnome to stop resuming the last session ...
[06:50] <panfist> hello, can any anyone help me out with a new feisty installation, both the live cd and alternate installer CD begin booting, but then give me an error
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: im just checking my sshd_config file to see if there is a setting to allow local login
[06:50] <daedra> aelliott: I just can't ssh from myself
[06:50] <wahdff> DA DARK
[06:50] <wahdff> hob i gsogt
[06:50] <daedra> hmm
[06:50] <wahdff> !!
[06:50] <DaRk> DA wahdff
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: have you every changed the ssh configuration?
[06:50] <ninnghizidha> i already told the settings that, but it loads always the old session since then
[06:50] <wahdff> HUGA HAGA
[06:50] <aelliott> daedra: its strange, because i can ssh to myself fine
[06:51] <Pici> !ppc | macuser
[06:51] <ubotu> macuser: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:52] <aNh0> LautesOnlineLachen
[06:52] <aNh0> xD
[06:52] <aNh0> Schwuuchteln
[06:52] <macuser> can you run ubunto on a power pc based mac?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[06:52] <panfist> when i try to boot the ubuntu live CD, a little while after selecting "boot or install ubuntu" i get dumped to a terminal that says: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. (initramfs)"
[06:52] <wahdff> aNh0 mach des :P
[06:52] <Pici> !de
[06:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <daedra__> test
[06:52] <Pici> macuser: read the link ubotu just gave you.
[06:53] <daedra> aelliott: nope never changed it
[06:53] <wahdff> ^
[06:53] <smurf3365> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf2769> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf7498> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf9846> /ctcp #ubuntu version
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[06:53] <smurf3319> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf4170> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf6887> /ctcp #ubuntu version
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[06:53] <smurf6887> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf9846> /ctcp #ubuntu version
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[06:53] <smurf7498> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <smurf5050> /ctcp #ubuntu version
[06:53] <macuser> i can't find the link
[06:54] <Pici> !ops
[06:54] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:54] <Thursley> what a silly mistake smurf..
[06:54] <daedra> omg flud
[06:54] <Thursley> and a bad one to
[06:54] <aelliott> daedra: see what "ssh <IP_ADDRESS>" does when you use it on the linux box
[06:54] <stuart-> anyone else have a Dsound error with Wine?
[06:54] <Pici> !traffic
[06:54] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[06:54] <macuser> could somebody send that link again for the ubunto on a power pc mac
[06:54] <Pici> !ppc > macuser (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:54] <stuart-> i keep getting this dsound override error, which i think is slwoing down my games
[06:54] <daedra> aelliott: sure thing
[06:54] <Amaranth> !staff
[06:54] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:54] <pedro> hi, i had buy an external hard disk, when i connect the hard disk to the HD is mounted as read only. How can i change the rights ?
[06:55] <Pici> Amaranth: nalioth is already her
[06:55] <nalioth> macuser: join #ubuntu-powerpc or ##apple
[06:55] <nalioth> Amaranth: yes?
[06:55] <daedra> aelliott: it seems to hang with a cursor blink
[06:55] <aelliott> daedra leave it for about 20 seconds, hopefully it will ask you about a host key
[06:55] <pedro> how can i mount a usb with write mode rights ?
[06:55] <Jack_Sparrow> pedro: is the format on that hard drive ntfs
[06:55] <daedra> aelliott: wait no I can login - but same problem "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[06:56] <pedro> daedra : i think so.
[06:56] <aelliott> daedra: are you doing this from a desktop terminal? or are you outside of gnome?
[06:57] <IntuitiveNipple> ok, weirdness! Suggestions for why Bluetooth mouse is suddenly not connecting, despite showing up on scan and will respond to a query (hcitool info) and hidd is running. Tried a reboot. It stopped bonding as I was using it. Tried replacing batteries.
[06:57] <William7532> where does the screen resolution gui come up with these numbers?
[06:57] <calidoso> hey everyone, I've been trying to get my wireless to work on my dual boot laptop but I can't seem to get it working with ubuntu... I've been reading the wiki and I've gone through the steps but I still don't get an IP address. I've put in the SSID and the WEP key, not sure what's wrong.. any ideas?
[06:57] <arpegius> pedro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1601636&postcount=7 looks helpful. take away the &postcount=7 from the URL to get the full thread
[06:57] <William7532> they don't seem to match anything in my xorg.conf file
[06:57] <arpegius> pedro: its all about external hds
[06:57] <Injen> William grep returned nothing?
[06:57] <warlocky> it seems like I cannot apt-get update anymore or apt-get install anything, I'm using ubuntu 5.4 breezy, anyone care to help?
[06:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless
[06:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:57] <pedro> arpegius : yes
[06:58] <William7532> I must have missed that message I haven't greped anything
[06:58] <Injen> ohh
[06:58] <warlocky> it seems like I cannot apt-get update anymore or apt-get install anything, I'm only getting errors -- I'm using ubuntu 5.04 breezy, anyone care to help?
[06:58] <daedra__> oh
[06:58] <William7532> what was I supposed to grep?
[06:58] <sivik> if i reinstall cpanel, does it mess up all the mail in the cpanel mailboxes
 install the 'xresprobe' package if the command is not available
 then: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:58] <daedra> aelliott: I am doing it outside gnome (terminal)
[06:58] <calidoso> ubotu: I'll take another look but that's what I've been reading....
[06:58] <William7532> ok I'll try that
[06:58] <sivik> warlocky: why 5.04?
[06:59] <calidoso> haha I'm chatting with the bot
[06:59] <obf213> is there a way to get ubuntu to stop creating copied hidden files everytime you delete something off your fat32partition
[06:59] <Injen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:59] <Jack_Sparrow> warlocky: Have you EVER used the script automatix or envy.. both are bad ideas
[06:59] <warlocky> sivik: Don't bother asking, I just want to get it working right now, I'm gonna upgrade later - and is there a possibility to upgrade now though?
[06:59] <aelliott> daedra: control - alt and F1 - F7 switches your terminals, try doing "control-alt-f3" and ssh from there
[06:59] <Injen> explains it, but you should double check that before you mess with anything.
[06:59] <daedra> aelliott: ok..
[06:59] <Flannel> warlocky: You can't apt-get anything because the repos for 5.10 (which is breezy, hoary is 5.04) don't exist anymore.
[06:59] <aelliott> daedraits as if it wont let you ssh into your own terminal if that makes sense :)
[06:59] <sivik> warlocky: u have to go into the sources.list and change all the entries that say breezy to fiesty (or however you spell it) and then do an aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade (apt-get works as well)
[07:00] <arpegius> i seem to have my wireless card connected to my wpa2 network. when i check out the ifconfig list, i see eth0 and ra0 and they both have dhcp-assigned address. however, when i disconnect the wired connection, i cannot ssh/smb/anything to ra0's assigned address. what could be going on here?
[07:00] <Flannel> sivik, warlocky, NOOOOO.  You can't upgrade from breezy to feisty.  Only one at a time.
[07:00] <obf213> how can you get ubuntu to stop creating a hidden recycled folder when you delete something off of a partition??
[07:00] <younghacker> hello
[07:00] <warlocky> ok, stop confusing me :'(
[07:00] <GhostlySnow> when trying to install a driver in ndiswrapper it gives me an error saying Inappropriate ioctl for device-- How do i fix that
[07:00] <sivik> warlocky: at this point of time, i would be easier and fast to just use a cd to do it and start over
[07:00] <daedra> aelliott: same problem "Error opening terminal: Unknown"
[07:01] <Flannel> sivik, warlocky, you should simply upgrade to dapper.  Not reinstall.
[07:01] <warlocky> that's what I thought, guess I'm going debian etch then
[07:01] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what kind of driver
[07:01] <warlocky> Flannel: well, dapper isnt working well with game-servers.
[07:01] <younghacker> as anyone familiar with installing the w32codecs into mplayer, I already have the codecs i am just looking for the folder in which to install them
[07:01] <sivik> flannel quit saying my name, ir eally don't care
[07:01] <sivik> younghacker, just use vlc
[07:01] <aelliott> daedra: im getting stumped now:) try doing "echo $TERM" and see if it comes back as 'xterm'
[07:01] <Flannel> sivik: You're giving bad information.  Please stop.
[07:01] <GhostlySnow> for a wireless card that is not supported
[07:01] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what card?
[07:01] <genefitz> young, if you are using ubuntu (pre-gutsy) you should just use automatix..
[07:01] <younghacker> sivik: vlc? app?
[07:01] <Injen> nice ;)
[07:02] <sivik> younghacker, vlc is an app that has all of that stuff already installed on it and working
[07:02] <genefitz> It will help you install any extra codecs you may need
[07:02] <Jack_Sparrow> genefitz: Bad idea
[07:02] <Flannel> genefitz: please don't recommend automatix here.  It's a bad idea.
[07:02] <sivik> just use vlc
[07:02] <younghacker> can i use both?
[07:02] <donald> anyone here using dual-head on ubuntu?
[07:02] <younghacker> ok
[07:02] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, what card?
[07:02] <daedra> aelliott: yep, I get xterm
[07:02] <genefitz> Sorry, didn't know it was a bad subject..
[07:02] <olliwoll1> is there a way to save the current state of packages installed, then install or remove packages and later restore the previous state with synaptic or dpkg. there is dpkg --set-selections, but it only works for installing new packages and not removing (--purging).
[07:02] <warlocky> Flannel: Mind joining a channel so we can chat for a sec? I'm geting confused by all the text in here
[07:02] <HEP85__> !automatix
[07:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:02] <Flannel> warlocky: sure, join #ubuntu-classroom
[07:03] <GhostlySnow> one minute
[07:03] <younghacker> wow
[07:03] <ormandj> why do i get random wxvlc processes running even after I've quit vlc? only happens sometimes - but the problem is - it disables my monitor going to sleep
[07:03] <younghacker> i'll do vlc
[07:03] <ormandj> it's quite irritating
[07:03] <aelliott> daedra: hmm, i don't understand it im afraid
[07:03] <aelliott> daedra: i cant see why it wont work
[07:03] <daedra__> aelliott: ok
[07:03] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, bcm43xx?
[07:04] <younghacker> is vlc command line or gui?
[07:04] <aelliott> daedra sorry mate
[07:04] <ormandj> younghacker: gui
[07:04] <bobgill> Hey I'm trying to install gparted, but I keep getting an error on the repo, I did apt-get update and I'm getting this: http://pastebin.ca/629733
[07:04] <sivik> vlc is gui
[07:04] <younghacker> cool, thanks
[07:04] <easytiger_home> whats the name of that ubuntu official laptop company.. i cant find the god damn site
[07:04] <GhostlySnow> broadcom Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[07:04] <ormandj> a cli video player - interesting. :p real-time *format* -> ascii conversion :p
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: That should be the bcm43xx chipset
[07:05] <ormandj> easytiger_home: I don't know which one you're referring to, but lenovo is always a good choice ;) (thinkpad series)
[07:05] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, its probably a bcm43xx of some sort, go into the bcm-users channel and talk to them about getting it to work without ndiswrapper
[07:05] <easytiger_home> ormandj: see the aalib plugin for zine
[07:05] <easytiger_home> xine
[07:05] <shonen> does the default ubuntu feisty kernel support ipsets?
[07:05] <elkbuntu> easytiger_home, there is no official ubuntu laptop company, however system76.com has ubuntu laptops
[07:05] <William7532> Ok injen I tried ddcprobe and it said the bottom horizontal was off but changing that didn't have any effect
[07:05] <younghacker> =o
[07:05] <ormandj> easytiger_home: I have :p
[07:05] <easytiger_home> elkbuntu: thats the one thanks
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: Easy to get going.. without ndiswrapper
[07:05] <GhostlySnow> yea but it dosnt work
[07:05] <sivik> bobjill: get rid of the ca in all the repo locations, that should fix it
[07:05] <William7532> I still only see 4:3 resolutions in the screen resolution preferences
[07:05] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: WHat all have you tried so far?
[07:05] <GhostlySnow> the button on the labtop dosnt work
[07:05] <aelliott> daedra see if "export TERM=vt100" helps
[07:05] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, mine does with the bcm43xx firmware
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> hmmm
[07:06] <daedra__> aelliott: ok
[07:06] <Jack_Sparrow> GhostlySnow: fwcutter will get it going
[07:06] <sivik> Jack_Sparrow, the thing i can't get working is figuring out how to get wpa to work
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> well the button wont light up on mine
[07:06] <cdehaan> Hello! I am running Feisty, and when I plug in an HFS+ volume (external HD or iPod, both USB) I can read the contents but not write... #1) Is HFS+ write support included in the default Feisty kernels and #2) If so, how do I write to these?
[07:06] <sivik> cdehaan: how is the drive being mounted and if its ntfs, its not recommened to write to
[07:06] <GhostlySnow> when it does it still wont work
[07:06] <sivik> GhostlyDeath, who cares if the light is on or not as long as it bloody works
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: The drive is being mounted automatically... I can't recall offhand what Feisty uses to do that.
[07:07] <bullgard4> What is the diffeence between LVM and LVM2?
[07:07] <bullgard4> What is the difference between LVM and LVM2?
[07:07] <shonen> cdehaan: if you need stable ntfs write support, install ntfs-3g
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: If it's not well supported, though, I may just reformat the iPod as VFAT
[07:07] <sivik> cdehaan, what partition type is it
[07:07] <cdehaan> shonen: Not NTFS... HFS+.
[07:07] <francis> Jack_Sparrow:
[07:07] <cdehaan> sivik: HFS+
[07:07] <shonen> k
[07:07] <aelliott> daedra also you could try a quick "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" and see if that makes a difference, im afraid i cannot replicate the problem on my box though, ssh to localhost is working fine here
[07:07] <Injen> William7532: I'm afraid thats my only educated recommendation, anything else will is.. guess.
[07:07] <sivik> i know nothing about trying to rewirte to hfs+, i hate ipods
[07:07] <francis> hey i have my wireless card working with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: yes did you need something, I didnt see a question
[07:07] <sharaf> could somebody help me with usb 2.0 installation
[07:08] <panfist> can anyone help me out, apparently i've run into a kernel bug in 2.6.20-15, and i can't boot using either the live CD or alternate CD.
[07:08] <cdehaan> sivik: I'm sorry you hate HFS+... I am, however, a mac user, and so my love for HFS+ is, of course, unending :)
[07:08] <francis> thanks a lot for all the help the other day
[07:08] <sivik> not sure, can't help u with that one
[07:08] <sivik> !nfs
[07:08] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:08] <ormandj> cdehaan: as a mac user, your love for HFS+ should have ended a long time ago when you realized it was an unstable POS filesystem
[07:08] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: Not a problem.. glad it is working
[07:08] <cdehaan> sivik: THanks for your time :)
[07:08] <ormandj> cdehaan: this coming from an ex apple employee
[07:08] <sharaf> hi
[07:08] <daedra> aelliott: ok
[07:08] <sivik> cdehaan, sorry i can't help u more
[07:08] <hydrosol> ormandj,  lol :)
[07:08] <sharaf> how do i install USB 2.0 drivers
[07:08] <cdehaan> ormandj: I was being sarcastic, but I've actually never had an issue with HFS+... what do you recommend instead?
[07:08] <sharaf> ????
[07:08] <francis> Any here using the hp tx 1000 series laptop
[07:08] <davf> I'm getting a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA error installing winxp in Qemu in Ubuntu
[07:09] <francis> Jack_Sparrow: dude you RoCk
[07:09] <cdehaan> ormandj: What OS X calls UFS?
[07:09] <ormandj> cdehaan: for what purpose? if you're going to run OSX, HFS+ is really the only game in town for your system
[07:09] <davf> sorry, running windows xp in Qemu. Works without kqemu
[07:09] <ormandj> but any kind of storage, use something else
[07:09] <Jack_Sparrow> francis: Thanks, I occasionally get one right
[07:09] <ormandj> XFS, JFS - doesn't matter - just NOT HFS+! :p
[07:09] <ormandj> ZFS should be in 10.5 and that's a good route to go
[07:09] <obf213> anyone know how to turn of that like auto fill word thing in OO writer
[07:10] <cdehaan> ormandj: Right, my MacBook runs HFS+... I thought there was an option to use UFS instead, though I could be lying, on my main volume
[07:10] <Injen> Haha http://www.oreilly.com/pub/h/1963 uses freenode on its irc over telnet example. :)
[07:10] <ormandj> cdehaan: there is, but it sucks. don't even waste your time trying UFS on an osx system, stuff starts randomly breaking
[07:10] <iAlice> Hi everyone! Since today I can't start any programs that use OpenGL: Error-Message: "Xfree86-DRI missing!"... Maybe some updates are to blame. Is there any history of the last updates made in ubuntu?
[07:10] <daedra> aelliott: hey I did do a ssh-keygen a while back
[07:10] <cdehaan> ormandj: OK, so HFS+ until 10.5 and then use ZFS?
[07:10] <ormandj> iAlice: open your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file and look through it to see if DRI is enabled or not
[07:10] <daedra> aelliott: do you think that would affect logging in?
[07:11] <ormandj> cdehaan: nope, 10.5 will only let you use ZFS on non-boot drives. you're stuck with HFS+ for a while yet ;)
[07:11] <daedra> aelliott: the thing is I can putty ssh in from windows just fine
[07:11] <aelliott> daedra i wouldnt have thought so, because you can ssh in from windows ok
[07:11] <daedra__> damn
[07:11] <iAlice> Section "DRI" \n Mode 0666 \n EndSection
[07:12] <cdehaan> ormandj: Ah. Do you know of any articles explaining why HFS+ sucks? I'll admit I've never looked into it, but that's mostly because I"ve never had (Or never pinpointed it as the culprit) issues with HFS+
[07:12] <sharaf> hi iAlice
[07:12] <ormandj> cdehaan: i use macs for my hobby (music production/composition) and i've had nothing but trouble with HFS+, random filesystem screwups being the #1 issue. Disk Warrior helps, but it's still a PITA. Then again, I've known many people who never had an issue.
[07:12] <GMWeezel> The volume switches on my keyboard change the wrong sound card volume; fix tips?
[07:12] <iAlice> and Section "Module" ... Load "dri" ...
[07:12] <PhoenixGI> Is there a channel that is more geared for the new Ubuntu user?
[07:12] <cdehaan> ormandj: I could see usage being a difference -- admittedly most of my computer usage, at least on my Mac laptop, is pretty basic.
[07:12] <sharaf> hi GMWeezel, could u possibly help me with usb2.0 installation
[07:12] <pedro> how can i know the info of my hard drive?. I mean the filesystem, the mount point, the partition ...
[07:12] <ormandj> cdehaan: my "HFS+ sucks" argument is based on my past experience with HFS+ filesystem corruption, both on personal machines and also with the multitude of failed computer apple recieved back while I was working for them
[07:13] <ormandj> if you check wikipedia about HFS+ you'll probably get all the information you could ever want
[07:13] <GMWeezel> sharaf: a PCI usb card?
[07:13] <Enselic> pedro: df -h     for example    also try     sudo fdisk -f
[07:13] <Enselic> pedro: sudo fdisk -l         i mean
[07:13] <BenLinkr> HFS+ isn't that bad if you immediatally throw out the rubbish format job at the factory.
[07:14] <sharaf> i've no extra card, it's built in with ma motherboard intel 865gm
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: basically, what i'm trying to impress upon you is that you should make sure you have a good backup policy in place, because you really can't rely on that filesystem to maintain integrity, hardware issues aside
[07:14] <larsemil> i get errormsg telling me that something is using my soundcard.. but nothing is
[07:14] <cdehaan> ormandj: I do regular backups, so I should be pretty safe.
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: now, truly, you should have a good backup policy regardless (especially on a laptop) ;)
[07:14] <panfist> can anyone please help me figure out how to install feisty...both the live and alternate install CDs start booting, then fail. apparently this is some kind of kernel bug introduced with the new kernel in feisty?
[07:14] <cdehaan> ormandj: And this macbook has been in... 5 times in the past year, yes... so I am already on that track.
[07:14] <vinay> on a laptop, is there a way to switch from internal to external display without restarting X ? ..
[07:14] <ormandj> cdehaan: yeah, the only pain is doing the reinstall, but it's not much more than 10-15 minutes of your life for the OS and then another 30 for software :p
[07:14] <sharaf> GMWeezel:i've no extra card, it's built in with ma motherboard intel 865gm
[07:14] <oellinux> hi
[07:15] <pedro> My HD its 400GB NFTS. Can i format to FAT32 ?
[07:15] <BenLinkr> vinay: What kind of card is it?
[07:15] <cdehaan> ormandj: Of course if I have any luck at all my persuasive argument with the Apple Store manager should mean a replacement this week.
[07:15] <ormandj> vinay: depends on card afaik
[07:15] <larsemil> vinay, for me i push fn + f4
[07:15] <GMWeezel> sharaf: if it's built into the motherboard what's the problem?  Lots of issues have been intermittent or showed up after repair, so this is pretty much the final straw for me.
[07:16] <ormandj> they're shagging you in the chute? :p
[07:16] <BenLinkr> vinay: I do it by my driver settings, with an ATI card.
[07:16] <oellinux> i have non-vital problem. i want to know if it is possible to assign to different softwares/plugins the playback of audio/video streaming in mozilla firefox
[07:16] <sharaf> GMWeezel: So i figured it's still running on USB 1.1 or something
[07:16] <vinay> ormandj, larsemil: I have a button on the keyboard to do this, but how does X have to be configured to understand that the button was pressed and displays should be shifted around?.. note i have an nvidia chipset with proprietory drivers
[07:16] <ormandj> cdehaan: sounds like you've just gotten a crappy apple store/manager. call up apple and talk to them, they'll have all your ticket info, and should be able to issue you a new machine
[07:16] <GMWeezel> sharaf: sounds like it could just be the flash drive not supporting USB 2.0. have you tried it on windows?
[07:16] <sharaf> GMWeezel: n no linux hasn't recognized USB2.0 till now
[07:16] <William7532> damn, so now I installed the "intel" driver instead of the i810 and I can't even get into gnome now
[07:16] <cdehaan> ormandj: and it's been ridiculous things like my backlight flickering for no reason, my entire case's paint chipping off (when the black one seemed like a good idea to me I have no idea), battery life of ~1 hour, etc.
[07:16] <sharaf> yup, it worked quite fine
[07:16] <vinay> BenLinkr: ya i saw instructions on doing this with aticonfig ... trying to find something that would do it with nvidia !
[07:16] <cdehaan> ormandj: I was always dealing with a different store -- we finally have another one closer to me (only an hour away now) so I went there this time
[07:17] <sharaf> GMWeezel: yup, it worked quite fine on windows
[07:17] <GMWeezel> sharaf: in that case im not sure; my flash drive works at a good speed and much faster than on windows so not sure how to help you; sorry
[07:17] <BenLinkr> vinay: Drats, I use ATI cards all over the place... try looking up "twinview how to" on the ubuntu forums.
[07:17] <William7532> I got to go now anyway, thanks for all the help I'll probably be back in a while
[07:17] <sharaf> GMWeezel: oh k, no probs, anyways, thanx for ur time
[07:17] <ormandj> cdehaan: ahh, good, maybe you'll have better luck with this one. my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>you should shoot me a line if you still have problems, i still know plenty of people @ apple corp.
[07:17] <BenLinkr> I think twinview is the Nvidia one.
[07:17] <Maoserr> Hello, Does anyone know of an introduction to scripting for Ubuntu?
[07:17] <cdehaan> ormandj: I'll keep that in mind, thanks much!
[07:17] <ormandj> maoserr: what kind of "scripting" would you like to do?
[07:17] <Maoserr> I'm just looking for something simple, that lets me execute two programs in succession
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> where the feisty is libdvdcss?
[07:18] <ormandj> so probably a bash shell script
[07:18] <Maoserr> yea
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> I have multiverse and universe enabled
[07:18] <pedro> How can i changed my HD Format ?
[07:18] <larsemil> vinay, for me it just happends. never configured anyything. but then on the other hand i get the same resolution on the external as the internal
[07:18] <tehtechman> Maoserr: two progs in sucession...  "prog1 && prog2"
[07:18] <Maoserr> ok, thanks for the tip
[07:18] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd says to install libdvdcss2, but I can't find it with Synaptic or apt-cache search
[07:18] <BenLinkr> Dhraakellian: I really don't think those are in many of the popular repos. Maybe media-ubuntu has them?
[07:18] <ormandj> maoserr: just search for "bash shell script tutorial" on google.com and you should find what you need, but another way to do it, is just put the commands on the CLI like this: "ps aux; df -h", which would execute ps aux, then after it finished, df -h
[07:19] <Dhraakellian> BenLinkr: then why would the official docs say that it's in Universe or Multiverse?
[07:19] <pedro> gparted, dont found my external HD? How can i change the file system HD ?
[07:19] <narfy> I'm try to make dapper print with cups for the lan. I have it working for local printing. To make it work for the lan, do I just at ipp://hostname:631 (hostname replace by my hostname)?
[07:19] <dfgas> how do i set the default card again with alsactl?
[07:19] <vinay> larsemil: alrigfht, i'll have to play around with this some more... thanks :-)
[07:20] <ormandj> narfy: you might want to read the cups docs and realize ubuntu's version at least back when i messed with it in 6.10) was pretty jacked up (no web iface/etc) so setting up a print server might be "fun"
[07:20] <ormandj> an easier (and cheaper, if you find time == money) way would be just to pick up a print server for your printer
[07:20] <cdehaan> ormandj: Should I be concerned about ext3?
[07:20] <ormandj> or get a network printer
[07:21] <triden1> ormandj: Really? My cups setup was fine in 6.10.
[07:21] <ormandj> cdehaan: nope, ext3 isn't the fastest of all FSs, but it's decent
[07:21] <cdehaan> ormandj: OK, just making sure I shouldn't start worrying about that too, haha
[07:21] <ormandj> triden1: well, i was dealing with about 17 different printers, and printing over the network, and i had a relatively negative experience getting it to "work". once I mucked with it and got the web iface up, it was simple as pie, but the gnome control panel stuff didn't cut it
[07:22] <ormandj> cdehaan: hehe, no. best policy is always to keep backups, but ext3 seems much more stable than hfs+.
[07:22] <triden1> ormandj: Heh, that's 15 more than I needed.
[07:22] <narfy> ormandj: ok, which ubuntu version has printing for the lan via cups as a no brainer, if any?
[07:22] <hammedhaaret> Hi.   how do i uninstall a limewire install that doesn't work?
[07:22] <triden1> narfy: I think all of them do... enable sharing.
[07:22] <ormandj> narfy: well, it depends on what you're talking about - are you talking about a locally connected printer on one machine being shared? or a network printer?
[07:23] <triden1> hammedhaaret: How'd you install it?
[07:23] <narfy> ormandj: locally connected printer on one machine being shared. lpd style.
[07:23] <ormandj> for a simple setup, as triden1 mentioned, it should be doable with any recent revision of ubuntu
[07:23] <tehtechman> hammedhaaret: apt-get remove if you used the pack manager
[07:23] <ormandj> narfy: i've never tried to share out a local printer, hopefully somebody else can help you with that, i've always just worked with network printers
[07:24] <hammedhaaret> triden1 & tehtechman: uuuhmm.... didn't use the manager. think i did it with a .bin file or somethin
[07:24] <triden1> hammedhaaret: A script?
[07:25] <tehtechman> hammedhaaret: did it ask u for a root pw?
[07:25] <triden1> Well, it's not a package officially, so apt-get remove won't do it
[07:25] <narfy> ormandj: sigh. I chose dapper 'cos it was supposed to have fixes etc support until 2009. I guess network printing via sharing a local normal printer isn't something a normal desktop user really does.
[07:25] <tehtechman> triden1: didnt know that... i dont use ubun
[07:25] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: where is it installed at?
[07:25] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have an acer aspire 5100 that hangs on every live cd I have thrown at it so I decided to overwrite the entire hard drive using DBAN..  and I get half way through the overwrite and it just powers down.  Anyone know where I should begin this google adventure?
[07:25] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: ie: to run limewire, what did you click - where was it?
[07:25] <triden1> narfy: I did... let me go get that guide I used.
[07:26] <triden1> narfy: Windows -> Ubuntu, Ubuntu -> Ubuntu, or the grabbag?
[07:26] <ormandj> narfy: for a desktop pc, you should probably stick with the latest current release of ubuntu (feisty fawn/7.04 at this time). LTS (6.06/dapper) was more for enterprise workstation/servers where longevity of a platform is important - it also means having old stuff/lacking functionality.
[07:27] <hammedhaaret> don't really know.... how do I find out?  im quite new to linux as you probably figured out
[07:27] <ormandj> Guilty_as_Sin: toss it out the window
[07:27] <narfy> triden1: cool. just point me to where I can read it. linuxes -> ubuntu dapper printserving
[07:27] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol..  felt like it a few times
[07:27] <GOD> !fishsticks
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fishsticks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <ImmortalEVENT> Hey guys Im having some sudo problems .. can I get some help?
[07:27] <ormandj> Guilty_as_Sin: if the laptop is shutting down with DBAN running it's probably heat related
[07:27] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: its in the menu, under internet
[07:27] <ormandj> maybe a dead fan or something
[07:27] <triden1> narfy: That's easy, especially if you are using gnome on all of them.
[07:27] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: right click and select properties
[07:27] <mcantor> Hey guys.  I just fresh-installed Kubuntu and for some reason, when I type :help in vim, it says "No tags file" "Sorry, no help for help.txt".  Whawt gives?
[07:27] <ormandj> and it should tell you where the icon points to
[07:28] <basvg> hey all ... just installed emacs metapackage on Feisty. When I start it all I get is a new window with a lot of squares instead of nicely formatted text... any clues on what's going wrong?
[07:28] <GOD> !the murder
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the murder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think you may be right
[07:28] <PriceChild> GOD, please don't abuse the bot
[07:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> side fan is not kicking out anything
[07:28] <ormandj> mcantor: sudo apt-get install vim-full
[07:28] <joe_> hi all
[07:28] <ImmortalEVENT> .. hey
[07:28] <jeff_> Anyone here use xfce instead of gnome? i have some questions about setting up my menus.
[07:28] <GOD> sorry, just funny, he does not do this in message
[07:28] <easytiger_home> this dell TrueLife display thing. does that just mean glossy screen?
[07:28] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: at what? the icon? its just a command.... "limewire" it says
[07:28] <PriceChild> jeff_, #xubuntu maybe?
[07:28] <easytiger_home> causei hate glossy screen
[07:29] <genefitz> With laptops, I know this one, after so long one of my 2 cpu fans went out.. If I don't keep the notebook elevated, where there is plenty of room for air to get to my remaining cpu fan, the heat shuts it down..
[07:29] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: whatever, the button you click to start it, right click on it this time and choose properties
[07:29] <ImmortalEVENT> I'm Having some mode problems on sudo  and permissions I need to revert in order to do any thing any help ??
[07:29] <narfy> ormandj: no, icewm on the rest (debian lightweight). But they were using cups before. Just the printserver (also debian originallY) died and so I thought I'd give ubuntu a go.
[07:29] <genefitz> I have ordered another fan, and let me tell ya, they ain't cheap
[07:29] <GOD> but i think he is lying, i think he knows something about the murder
[07:29] <ormandj> genefitz: nor are laptops fun to take apart/put back together
[07:29] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ive done that.... it's just a command. no path....
[07:29] <triden1> narfy: On computer with printer, Adminstration -> Printers, -> Global Settings -> Share printers.
[07:29] <triden1> narfy: On others, Global Settings -> Detect Lan shares.
[07:29] <triden1> /connect
[07:29] <ImmortalEVENT> ????
[07:29] <genefitz> ormandj, you ain't joking
[07:30] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: ok, open a terminal, and type "which limewire"
[07:30] <ormandj> basvg: you're going to the bad place
[07:30] <mcantor> ormandj: Is there a KDE equivalent of that, or will KDE just play nice with vim-full?
[07:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, temporary fix in place..  (laptop in freezer)
[07:30] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ok... /usr/bin/
[07:30] <dr_willis> mcantor,  it works well for me
[07:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> lmao
[07:30] <basvg> ormandj: 'xcuse me?
[07:30] <ImmortalEVENT> lol
[07:30] <mcantor> dr_willis: Jolly good.
[07:31] <basvg> ormandj: the package seems seriously borked so.. time to move on and try if handcompiling works
[07:31] <ormandj> mcantor: there are no vim UIs not written in gtk. you don't need vim-full, i installed it and never use the GUI version
[07:31] <ImmortalEVENT> I guess ill wait
[07:31] <ormandj> basvg: it's EMACS dude - of course it doesn't work
[07:31] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: there's a kvim, but I don't know if Ubuntu has it.   That menu sequence isn't there for local printers.A
[07:31] <ubotu> Package/file kvim does not exist in feisty
[07:31] <basvg> ormandj: not here to start a holy war... vim-user myself but others on this box need emacs
[07:31] <manitou_> hi is it any howto to install ubuntu on amd64 (x2) with flash , java , etc. ?
[07:31] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'm at my desk..
[07:31] <triden1> narfy: Really? Then it's time to go edit cubs.conf.
[07:31] <ormandj> basvg: i was only making a joke, you just didn't seem to get it so i was explaining :p
[07:32] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Well, I only ever use it on the command line anyway, really
[07:32] <basvg> ormandj: :-)
[07:32] <tazz_> need help with download to update fiefox is a gz filebut cant it working
[07:32] <ormandj> basvg: i could care less what OS (editor in vim's case) people use :p
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: yes, there is a Vim with Qt/KDE gui
[07:32] <dr_willis> manitou_,  note that you proberly do NOT NOT NOT. want to use the '64bit' version of Ubuntu. stick with the 32bit version.
[07:32] <triden1> narfy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu?highlight=%28NEtworkPrinting%29
[07:32] <Flannel> !flash64 | manitou_
[07:32] <ubotu> manitou_: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:32] <Guilty_as_Sin> I think I may have damaged the hard drive..  but the heat scenario plays out
[07:32] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: ok... its in /usr/bin/
[07:32] <ormandj> yuck, well, UIs on vim in general suck :p
[07:32] <genefitz> check at the bottom and the side of the notebook for heat, check to see if the fans are running, check if the heat is blowing out the side or the back..
[07:32] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: But it's not in the Ubuntu repos?
[07:32] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: that's bad. it means that .bin you ran installed crap all in your system's base install
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: you could look
[07:32] <ormandj> see if there is an uninstaller build into that .bin
[07:32] <Dhraakellian> but I doubt it's there for some reason
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: speaking as a dyed-in-the-wool KDE user, GVim is fine
[07:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> I used the alternate cd to install kubuntu a month back and edited raid.. think I may poked around where I did not belong
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Doesn't seem like it's there.  (apt-cache search vim qt brings up nothing, really)
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: kvim
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Yeah, I'v ebeen using it for a while, it's just that I reinstalled yesterday and forgot how I set everything up
[07:33] <Dhraakellian> search for that
[07:33] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: nope
[07:33] <ormandj> mcantor: really, why?? :)
[07:33] <ormandj> UIs in vim suck
[07:33] <Guilty_as_Sin> no wait that was on the desktop because I wanted to make two drives one continuous space..  I remember now
[07:33] <mcantor> ormandj: Why what?
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> oh, and if you manage to get it installed, make sure you have it set to use a monospaced font
[07:34] <Guilty_as_Sin> nm..  must be the heat issue
[07:34] <hammedhaaret> ormandj: :C    crap..... the program really sucks...    where could i find the uninstaller if its in the .bin?    just run the .bin again?
[07:34] <mcantor> ormandj: BTW, installing vim-full worked like a dream.
[07:34] <ormandj> mcantor: they are pointless, they just slow the workflow down
[07:34] <mcantor> Dhraakellian: Of course!  Using Vim with anything but a monospace font would be anathema.
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> proportional fonts in KVim are... interesting
[07:34] <ormandj> if you get good with vim, you should never be using a mouse or even the arrow keys (unless you remapped them to macros)
[07:34] <ImmortalEVENT> I don't want to keep typing this.. but i dont know what else to do..  Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help plz plz plz
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> mcantor: read: the window very quickly resizes down to about 10-20px wide
[07:34] <genefitz> Guilty, usually when a notebook just shuts itself off, it is either a heat or a power issue
[07:34] <Dhraakellian> don't ask me why.  it just does
[07:34] <tazz_> i have a p4
[07:34] <ormandj> hammedhaaret: read the documentation (should be a README or something) - if that fails, try running the bin with --help after it
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I've been using Vim for 5 years, dude.  Trust me, I know
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I just wanted the help files
[07:35] <Dhraakellian> heh... and I've known this one to shut off due to heat issues when the bottom is barely warmalmost coolto the touch
[07:35] <mcantor> ormandj: I'm not entirely sure how I got sidetracked into the GUI discussion
[07:35] <ormandj> mcantor: so avoid those nasty UIs! :p yeah. i had the same issue, that's why i suggested vim-full. it does the gnome UI crap but just don't use it
[07:35] <Dhraakellian> on bootup, that is
[07:35] <genefitz> I run a desklet that keeps track of my cpu use and heat...
[07:35] <chattr> hi
[07:35] <defcon_> where can I find what I can remove from /etc/init.d because somehow something is getting ran and killing my wifi
[07:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> well the thing is, when it has an OS.. whether it be ubuntu, kubuntu, windows, etc.  it runs great..
[07:35] <ormandj> mcantor: i wish there was a vim-full-nogui package ;)
[07:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> it's only during live cd's and installation
[07:35] <narfy> triden1: aha. got it, thanks. The problem was the client configs need fixing to conform to the ubuntu ipp address. Thanks ormandj triden1
[07:36] <ormandj> narfy: awesome, glad you got it working!
[07:36] <mcantor> ormandj: That would be pretty awesome
[07:36] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh and DBAN and Webroot
[07:36] <chattr> is there a possibility to create flash animations like mms flash ?
[07:36] <ImmortalEVENT> ?
[07:37] <genefitz> Guilty, here's an idea, try re-installing it's original OS, and see what happens.. If it loads, then you can re-try Ubuntu. When you re-install the native OS, it usually does a complete computer re-set. Kicks it back to how it should hae been from the factory
[07:37] <ormandj> mcantor: looks like "sudo apt-get install vim vim-common" might do the trick minus the GUI stuff
[07:37] <chattr> is there a possibility to create flash animations like mms flash ?
[07:37] <mimik> is there a program i can use to fool a site into believing my ip is from the us or canada?
[07:37] <mcantor> ormandj: hmmm, well, I already have vim-full
[07:37] <ormandj> mimik: you'd need an anonymizer or something like that
[07:37] <dr_willis> mimik,  try that 'tor' router proxy project. :) it ramdamizes things
[07:37] <mimik> thanks ill look it up
[07:37] <triden1> chattr: Flash is usually done in director, see macromed... no, adobe now.
[07:38] <ormandj> mcantor: yeah, same here, just saying if you really want to get rid of vim-full and the gui related packages, you could go that route. personally, i'd just leave it as is :p
[07:38] <Traveler7> mimik i'll send your IP to RIAA
[07:38] <ormandj> tor sucks, slow as poop
[07:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> well I have tried that, and it went great..  but I tried booting Sabayon live..  no gui..   tried booting ubuntu studio..  powers down..  tried installing kubuntu (alternate cd) in text mode.. and can't retrieve software packaging
[07:38] <manitou_> strange my realplayer crashes somethimes ? (when watching video)
[07:38] <chattr> triden1,  so is there something like this for ubuntu? i dont want to use windose...
[07:38] <Guilty_as_Sin> return back to windows, runs great..
[07:39] <basvg> hmff, emacs even dumps core... weird
[07:39] <genefitz> Guilty, I have an idea. What processor does your notebook have?
[07:39] <ormandj> sounds like other problems basvg
[07:39] <Traveler7> Guilty_as_Sin you have foulty cd recorder
[07:39] <ormandj> run gdb on emacs
[07:39] <ormandj> and see what's going on
[07:39] <triden1> chattr: I'd haven't heard of flash creation on ubuntu recently, flash is owned by Adobe...
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have had a few distros on it before and running great..  this seems to be the "issue of the week" for me
[07:39] <ormandj> do a stack trace, that should give you an idea
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> now that is a possibilty as well
[07:39] <chattr> triden1,  also no possibilty then :/
[07:39] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have had a trouble out of this pioneer
[07:39] <triden1> Actually, chattr, hold on.
[07:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> you know you can't even get firmware for it?
[07:40] <Traveler7> Guilty_as_Sin try reflashing firmware
[07:40] <genefitz> guilty, are you running an amd 64 bit processor?
[07:40] <Guilty_as_Sin> pioneer only supports the k16... not the k16rs..
[07:40] <triden1> chattr: It's a lucky day, I think some projects are tackling that problem.
[07:40] <dfgas> how do i set my default sound card in alsa?
[07:40] <triden1> chattr: http://linuxappfinder.com/development/flash
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> and acer does not have firmware for it either
[07:41] <triden1> dfgas: volume-control?
[07:41] <chattr> triden1,  hui thanks
[07:41] <dfgas> no its done with the alsactl just don't remember how
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> so if neither the manufacturer(pioneer) nor the pc assembler (acer) have the firmware..  where would I gert it?
[07:41] <Guilty_as_Sin> get*
[07:42] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have been in circles over this
[07:42] <stuart_> hmm.. amsn does seem to take up a lot of resources, doesn't it
[07:42] <triden1> stuart_: Java does that.
[07:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> I called pioneer and they have no idea.. the guy on the phone said contact acer and acer says contact pioneer
[07:43] <larson999> triden1, kick that keyring while you're at it
[07:43] <ImmortalEVENT> Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help
[07:43] <Vai_Ro> can any one help me install g15 tools for fiesty?
[07:43] <Guilty_as_Sin> moral of the story, don't buyt an acer
[07:43] <stuart_> triden1, happen to know any alternatives that still have proper msn support?
[07:43] <dfgas> hmmm maybe asound
[07:43] <ladydoor> stuart_: bitlbee does, I believe, if you like IRC
[07:43] <dfgas> bah i don't remember now
[07:44] <ormandj> hey folks, what network laser printer are most of you happy with using? i need to get a new one for my house, this HP is turning out to be a POS
[07:44] <larson999> Guilty_as_Sin, conference them both in.  that sometimes makes for funny conversations.  doesn't usually help the situation though.
[07:44] <genefitz> guilty, don't you love that? The pioneer people will say "call Acer" the acer people will say "call pioneer"
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> lol.. your right
[07:44] <triden1> stuart_: Unless you truely care for webcam support and the ocassional... custom emotion, Gaim/Pidgin works.
[07:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> that would be great
[07:44] <genefitz> anything to keep from actually having to perform customer service...lol
[07:44] <stuart_> ladydoor, will try, thanks.
[07:44] <stuart_> triden1, Gaim has file send/receive, right?
[07:45] <ImmortalEVENT> yup
[07:45] <ladydoor> stuart_: You might also like Gaim/Pidgen.
[07:45] <ImmortalEVENT> can any answer my question?
[07:45] <zenspirit> Hi all ... question from a linux/ubuntu noob (yes another one :p ) How do i make pidgin launch when i start ubuntu (startup script?)
[07:45] <triden1> stuart_: Yep, was sending zips a plenty yesterday.
[07:45] <aelliott> does anyone know if Fiesty uses prelinking as standard?
[07:45] <triden1> News: windows Vista Helps Boost Sales Of... Windows XP by 50%!
[07:45] <stuart_> triden1, could you get a display pic of yourself up as well?
[07:46] <triden1> stuart_: Yup.
[07:46] <ImmortalEVENT> Um..  Im having some sudo  mode problems where I get this message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440" , I can't do a init=/bin/bash in kernal , and when I go into recovery mode and try to do a chmod 440 /etc/sudoers it says I do not have the right permissions.   GAh.. plz help
[07:46] <ladydoor> triden1: Yeah, it seems like GNU hardly even needs the BadVista campaign--MS did it all themselves.
[07:46] <jetscreamer> boot single
[07:46] <triden1> stuart_: If you want to test stuff with me, I'll be happy to add you.
[07:46] <justin420> hi everybody. can anybody tell me how to get swat WORKING on feisty? ive installed netkit-inetd and xinetd and made sure that the off part is not in front of the swat line ( which is the only line in /etc/inet.d.conf ) .  I am stumped at this point, and its top priority right now to get swat working.
[07:46] <jetscreamer> boot single ImmortalEVENT
[07:46] <larson999> hmmm, reactos just released 3.3.  wonder if i should try it
[07:46] <aelliott> i used vista for 3 months and i have to say its really bad
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> boot single?
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> what do you mean
[07:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah it suckas
[07:47] <genefitz> I won't say anything bad about Vista. I have a dual boot Vista/ubuntu system
[07:47] <Guilty_as_Sin> sucks*
[07:47] <aelliott> even browsing to a folder on the root of your disk takes ages lol
[07:47] <jetscreamer> ImmortalEVENT: when you boot, chose single or rescue... if it's not there, hit e, hit e again, edit the kernel line add it to the end
[07:47] <ladydoor> ImmortalEVENT: When you boot, you should see a line that says "press escape to enter the menu"
[07:47] <larson999> i love vista!  it made my wife finally switch to linux
[07:47] <rambo3> !ot
[07:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:47] <stuart_> triden1, it's okay, wouldn't wanna trouble you so much, but how'd you set up a display pic in Gaim? i didn't see the option
[07:47] <ladydoor> ImmortalEVENT: do that, and there should be an option that says "single" or "recovery mode"
[07:47] <vas> hey I have set up Samba onmy server, but when i try to access the share with my mac laptop, I see it in it's rightful Workgroup, and the name comes up correct, but when I click the share to connect it tells me the Alias is gone and I can not find it
[07:47] <ImmortalEVENT> yeah I got that part already
[07:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> my wife uses it, I hate it..  I'm having to run half of her crap in compatibilty mode..  not to mention all the holes I had to poke in the firewall just to get the basic stuff working like media center for instance
[07:48] <dr_willis> hmm.. dont ya love reading user reviews of products and every other one is a 1 or 2 out of 10, while the others are all 8 to 9out of 10...
[07:48] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: so that's how one would disable the fancy graphical progressbar while booting?
[07:48] <triden1> stuart_: I updated my GAIM to pidgin, let me open my old copy quickly.
[07:48] <vas> srry to ask that here, but ubuntu-sever channel almost always has no one talking
[07:48] <dr_willis> Looking for a decent new printer for My system. :) mine is 10 yrs old.
[07:48] <aelliott> vista works in linux's favor because once people use it, XP seems dated, but then again vista is unusable - so no choice other than linux :)
[07:48] <jetscreamer> Dhraakellian: yes except just take splash off, and maybe quiet
[07:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> redicka' iculousness
[07:48] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: on the liveCD, I was just removing splash
[07:48] <triden1> dr_willis: I like my HP printers, fairly well supported.
[07:49] <Dhraakellian> jetscreamer: is that permanent or just per-boot?
[07:49] <rambo3> dr_willis,  some  HP
[07:49] <triden1> stuart_: Bottom right, the little photo thing.
[07:49] <jetscreamer> spash is set somewhere else not in defoptions , i forget where... <--for permanent
[07:49] <Dhraakellian> okay
[07:49] <unimatrix9> seen mac os x keynote? vote for an ubuntu keynote every release!
[07:49] <jetscreamer> no quiet is set elsewhere
[07:49] <jetscreamer> spalsh is in defoptions iirc
[07:49] <zacdavis> bleh, keynote...
[07:50] <unimatrix9> keynote on ubuntu !
[07:50] <stuart_> triden1, upgraded? is pidgin better tehn?
[07:50] <unimatrix9> would that not be great?
[07:50] <dr_willis> rambo3,  thats what im looking at now. Seeing some very nice all in one products
[07:50] <triden1> stuart_: Well, it's just that gaim is discontinued, so, I went to pidgin.
[07:50] <zacdavis> i wouldn't care if keynote came to ubuntu
[07:50] <unimatrix9> or at least some great video's showing off ubuntu, would you prefer that?
[07:50] <zacdavis> triden1: GAIM is Pidgin
[07:51] <dr_willis> A Scanning QUestion. For a "network scanner/all in one printer gizmo" can linux even USE a network enabled scanner?
[07:51] <ImmortalEVENT> Ok, Im having trouble with sudo  I edited the permissions under /ect and now it wont let me do any thing else to revert it back.. IT gives me this error sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0460, should be 0440..   I know that I can type Chmod 440 to revert it back but when I do it says I don't have the right permissions which brings me back to the start.. I just want to be able to revert what I did on /ect permissions so that I can
[07:51] <Pricey> !offtopic | unimatrix9
[07:51] <ubotu> unimatrix9: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <unimatrix9> ubuntu is off topic?
[07:51] <rambo3> dr_willis,  i have just a printer 1 year old. works good. not as best printuout on linux. don't know about all in one types
[07:51] <zacdavis> lol....
[07:51] <unimatrix9> in your opinion?
[07:51] <Pricey> unimatrix9, anything but ubuntu support is offtopic here
[07:51] <FFForever> when will ubuntu tribe 2 be out?
[07:51] <unimatrix9> hmm, strange \
[07:51] <Pricey> FFForever, #ubuntu+1 please
[07:52] <triden1> zacdavis: Yeah, but the GAIM branch is dead in the water, if I remember correctly.
[07:52] <zacdavis> so everything that is being talked about here is off-topic then
[07:52] <unimatrix9> thats the first time i see you around here privey
[07:52] <leetcharmer> hihi all :D
[07:52] <unimatrix9> pricey
[07:52] <Flannel> ImmortalEVENT: next time don't mess with permissions in /etc, that's always a bad idea.  Reboot into recovery mode (at your GRUB menu) and ou'll be able to fix it
[07:52] <Hammwell> how do i find out what version I'm running from command line?
[07:52] <Flannel> Hammwell: lsb_release -a