[00:00] <quentusrex> Anyone available for ubuntu package question about converting from svn to git? I use to use the revision number, but now what do I use from git to determine overrides.
[02:02] <Seq> Is there anything going on with ppa uploading? I'm not getting any error or notices sent to my email, and my package doesn't show up in the queue
[07:33] <kermiac> hi. I just filed https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/107650 regarding spam comments in 2 bug reports - can someone pls take a look at it when they've got time?
[07:34] <kermiac> however, in the process of filing that I noticed https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/107630 - someone might want to delete it as it is is a bit offensive
[07:41] <thumper> kermiac: thanks, someone will get to it eventually :)
[07:41] <kermiac> np thumper, just making sure someone was aware of it :)
[09:46] <ojwb> hi, I've got a retried ppa build where the estimated time is just going up with time
[09:47] <ojwb> 3 hours, then a few hours later 4, then a few hours later 8
[09:47] <ojwb> it seems the age based boost doesn't apply here?
[10:13] <wgrant> ojwb: The age-based boost does apply. It just doesn't have much affect, and everything else gets the boost too.
[10:14] <wgrant> Packages must be taking longer to build than expected.
[10:14] <ojwb> wgrant: ah, ok - i guess it isn't reflected in the score reported by the web ui
[10:14] <ojwb> ooh, 1 hour now
[10:15] <ojwb> if it's not going to just bubble under indefinitely, I'll be patient
[11:24] <ojwb> cool, built now
[13:39] <nigelbabu> Just got an OOPS
[13:39] <nigelbabu> OOPS-1568E1302
[13:53] <james_w> nigelbabu: bug 536641
[13:57] <nigelbabu> james_w, ah, thank you :)
[14:47] <lxp1> hi
[14:47] <lxp1> do i have to do something special to get karma for ppa uploads?
[14:49] <lxp1> my launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~lxp13
[14:51] <lxp1> i am uploading regularly to my ppa for about half a year and didn't get any karma for ppa uploads
[17:50] <captainkernel> I have just tried to generate a pgp key pair for launchpad using opnpgp in ubuntu 9.04. When I ran the command gpg --gen-key as deatiled in the launchpad docs at https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey, I ran through the steps and appeared to complete successfully but the _current_directory_ did not have the required private/public.key. Can anyone help?
[17:53] <geser> gpg stores the keys in its keyring in ~/.gpg
[17:55] <captainkernel> [geser] yes but the launchpad documentation states "Your keys are now stored as public.key and private.key in the current directory. "
[17:55] <geser> that sounds wrong
[17:56] <geser> ignore that line in the docs
[17:57] <captainkernel> [geser] ok thanks. looks like I don't need them anyway since the upload can be done by gpg directly.
[20:20] <keturn> ...I want to stay subscribed to this bug so I hear about progress on it, but all the "me too" posts are getting old.  The "this affects me too" button as an alternative to commenting hasn't quite caught on.
[21:07] <ruthgard> Hello, can you link a project to a ppa in launchpad? I have a project and a ppa under my user with the projects ppa files, how can I bind them together so that anyone looking at the project will know there is a ppa.
[21:28] <thumper> ruthgard: the easiest way right now is to put a link to the ppa in the project description.  I think "official" ppa links are coming soon
[21:28] <ruthgard> okay thank you
[23:30] <DavidLevin> y
[23:52] <KDesk> Hi, is this the right place to ask about the uploads to a ppa?
[23:53] <wgrant> KDesk: It is.
[23:54] <KDesk> ok, thanks.
[23:56] <KDesk> MY problem is that when I try to upload a package to my ppa, it uploads and the dput process finsh, but I get no email from launchpad nor I see a sources to build from the launchpad web. How can I know why it doesn't build?
[23:57] <wgrant> KDesk: That normally means that you haven't signed the package with a key linked to your Launchpad account.
[23:58] <KDesk> wgrant: I did, there are the .changes and .dsc file signed.
[23:59] <KDesk> with: debuild -S -sa -kMY-KEY it asked for the key twice, as usual.


[10:31] <JonathanD> Morning PA
[13:39] <jedijf> mmm, irish soda bread and coffee
[16:11] <ChinnoDog> hi
[16:14] <ssweeny> hi ChinnoDog
[16:44] <ChinnoDog> ssweeny: whats new?
[16:44] <ssweeny> ChinnoDog: i'm throwing a zombie board game party this evening
[16:45] <ssweeny> if you leave now you can probably make it
[16:59] <ChinnoDog> "zombie board game party"??
[17:03] <ssweeny> yes
[17:03] <ssweeny> a party during which we will play a zombie-themed board game called "Last Night on Earth"
[17:05] <ChinnoDog> I want to play :-(
[17:07] <ssweeny> you can still make it!
[17:08] <ssweeny> hop in the car!
[17:10] <ChinnoDog> I wish
[17:54] <rhpot1991> ssweeny: zombies!!! ?
[17:55]  * rhpot1991 wonders what other zombie board games there are
[18:17] <ssweeny> this is the only one i have played. it's quite fun
[18:38] <jedijf> hive is doing zombie rpg all z must die or something
[18:51] <rhpot1991> ssweeny: this == zombies!!! or something else?
[18:54] <ssweeny> this == "Last Night on Earth"
[18:54] <rhpot1991> perhaps I need to learn to read :)
[18:56] <ssweeny> perhaps
[18:56] <rhpot1991> looks like that has better ratings than zombies!!!: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2471/zombies
[18:57] <ssweeny> that seems like a similar game
[18:57] <ssweeny> but LNOE has more scenarios
[18:57] <rhpot1991> I just showed it to someone to have them pick it up :)
[18:58] <rhpot1991> I have too many games already, went through the top 100 of BGG and added a bunch for my bday that my family all got me
[18:58] <rhpot1991> agricola and catan are my favorites thus far
[18:58] <rhpot1991> carcassonne was pretty good
[18:58] <ssweeny> catan is full of win
[18:58] <rhpot1991> I've had catan forever
[18:59] <rhpot1991> just started with agricola
[18:59] <ssweeny> i got a Dilbert board game for Christmas a long time ago that turned out to be way more fun than it looked
[19:00] <rhpot1991> I have powergrid and pureto rico waiting still
[19:00] <rhpot1991> ssweeny: you would prob like forbidden island or pandemic
[19:01] <rhpot1991> they are kinda similar to those zombie based games
[19:01] <ssweeny> possibly. i'm not hugely into board games but i will try any that look interesting
[19:02] <ssweeny> mostly it's something different from what my friends used to do, which was stare at a tv screen for movies and/or video games
[19:02] <ssweeny> this is more interactive
[19:03] <rhpot1991> agreed
[19:03] <rhpot1991> I wish I had more people by me to play them with, I mostly play catan when I go in to visit with family
[19:07] <rhpot1991> ssweeny: does last night on earth have any single player?
[19:07] <rhpot1991> some games like that have a solitaire style single player option
[19:09] <ssweeny> it wouldn't be any fun single player
[19:09] <ssweeny> you need at least one to play as the zombies
[20:11] <ChinnoDog> ssweeny: that sounds like the best role to play
[20:17] <ssweeny> it can be lots of fun
[20:36] <rhpot1991> I'd want to shoot the zombies
[20:37] <JonathanD> So I think camping will be at Washington Crossing state park, NJ...
[20:38] <JonathanD> For anyone who wants to come. I'm going to see what dates are available shortly.
[20:41] <JonathanD> andrew: in?
[20:47] <andrew> in what?
[20:48] <JonathanD> andrew: camping, washington crossing.
[20:50] <andrew> date?
[20:52] <JonathanD> unknown
[20:53] <JonathanD> still have to call and get a list of available dates
[20:53] <JonathanD> any suggestions?
[20:53] <PennBot> I guess any suggestions are welcomed, really, JonathanD
[20:53] <andrew> Not this weekend
[20:53] <andrew> not next weekend
[20:53] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: you can find out dates online normally
[20:54] <rhpot1991> gotta go through the booking process till you can pick dates
[20:54] <rhpot1991> you can view sites too that way, I think you have to pick a date before you can poke at sites though
[20:58] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: I've never found a way to see available dates online...
[20:59] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: is it a state park?
[20:59] <JonathanD> Yes.
[20:59] <JonathanD> NJ state park.
[20:59] <JonathanD> not PA
[20:59] <JonathanD> http://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/parks/washcros.html
[20:59] <PennBot> Title: Department of Environmental Protection (at www.state.nj.us)
[20:59] <rhpot1991> ah
[20:59] <rhpot1991> maybe NJ sucks at that then
[21:00] <JonathanD> heh :p
[21:00] <JonathanD> probably
[21:00] <rhpot1991> PA state parks normally have it
[21:00] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: NJ parks are too cheap to afford it.
[21:00] <JonathanD> Which is why we go camping there.
[21:00] <rhpot1991> yep I don't see the option there
[21:00] <rhpot1991> well price seems close to the same
[21:01] <rhpot1991> this is confusing me though
[21:01] <rhpot1991> Group campsites: Four group sites with picnic tables, fire rings, and portable toilets; total capacity: 115. Open April 1 through October 31. Site A - $50 per night, Site B - $25 per night, Site C - $25 per night, Site D $15 per night
[21:01] <rhpot1991> does that mean there are only 4 sites?
[21:01] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: A houses 50 people.
[21:01] <JonathanD> B, C house up to 25 each
[21:01] <JonathanD> D 15
[21:01] <rhpot1991> house as in cabin?
[21:01] <JonathanD> no, support tents suitable for that many
[21:02] <JonathanD> It's somewhat subjective, though.
[21:02] <rhpot1991> oh but they have the tents and stuff?
[21:02] <rhpot1991> so its not just a piece of land and you are on your own
[21:02] <JonathanD> it's an empty site :)
[21:02] <JonathanD> you are on your own.
[21:02] <rhpot1991> ok
[21:02] <JonathanD> But for 50 people, $50 a night is cheap
[21:03] <JonathanD> (we won't have 50, though)
[21:03] <rhpot1991> very cheap
[21:03] <JonathanD> regardless, it basically means "$100 flat no matter how many people we have."
[21:03] <rhpot1991> PA sites are somewhere in the 15-25 range, and you'd be sad fiting more than 6 people in there
[21:03] <rhpot1991> http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhpot1991/4943212402/
[21:03] <PennBot> Title: IMG_0227 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com)
[21:03] <rhpot1991> last camp site I was at
[21:03] <rhpot1991> "camp site"
[21:04] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: http://ahotw.com/gallery/v/linux/2009-07-12-Geeknic/
[21:04] <PennBot> Title: Geeknic++; Camping at Jenny Jump (at ahotw.com)
[21:04] <JonathanD> Thats what it's like, basically.
[21:04] <andrew> Ah yes, the time before I started using flickr
[21:04] <JonathanD> Water bottles.
[21:04] <JonathanD> andrew: thats how I find it so fast.
[21:05] <JonathanD> ahotw is easy to type into the bar, get a result.
[21:05] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: whats the water area like there?
[21:06] <JonathanD> I didn't make use of it.
[21:06] <JonathanD> Some people went fishing that year.
[21:06] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: kayakable?
[21:08] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: Jenny Jump was, yes.
[21:09] <JonathanD> Washington Crossing is on the deleware.
[21:20] <ChinnoDog> @seen MutantTurkey
[21:20] <PennBot> ChinnoDog: MutantTurkey was last seen in #ubuntu-us-pa 1 day, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <MutantTurkey> okay thanks for the info!
[21:20] <MutantTurkey> Gobble Gobble
[21:20] <ChinnoDog> :-)
[21:21] <MutantTurkey> :P
[21:28] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: I'd imagine it's doable :)
[21:30] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: I'm interested (and have a few others) if the date works out
[21:36] <JonathanD> sweet
[22:06] <EvilPhoenix> any of you people running 10.04 and can check your repos for something?
[22:07] <JonathanD> rhpot1991: sometime in May I think
[22:08] <JonathanD> Maybe the 28th.
[22:34] <jedijf> EvilPhoenix: what?
[22:35] <jedijf> ask?
[22:35] <PennBot> Don't ask to ask, just ask! :P
[22:35] <MutantTurkey>  <phrik: Don't ask to ask, or ask if anyone is here, or if anyone is alive, or if anyone uses something. Just ask!>
[22:35] <jedijf> EvilPhoenix: yes i run 10.04, and yes i haz repos
[22:36] <MutantTurkey> s/ask if anyone is here/ask if everyone is a zombie
[22:37] <jedijf> if much longer i'll be in van which runs 9.04....
[22:42] <rhpot1991> JonathanD: I'll be in philly the following weekend anyways, so if you do it then it increases the chances of me attending
[22:42] <rhpot1991> don't change just on my behalf though, pick something that works for everyone
[22:44] <EvilPhoenix> jedijf:  nevermind, i got an answer
[22:44] <EvilPhoenix> was lookin for a certain package, found it only in 10.10 and later
[22:44] <EvilPhoenix> python-nmap


[06:56] <ScottK> Ah.  So now we have an entire team dedicated to shoving Ubuntu Tweak into the archive.
[06:56] <micahg> ScottK: huh?
[06:57] <ScottK> http://ubuntumug.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/ubuntu-power-users-first-meeting/
[06:57] <ScottK> Apparently 'power user' turned out to be a synonym for, well I can't find a CoC compliant way to put what I think it's a synonym for with any specificity.
[06:58] <micahg> lol
[06:58]  * ScottK is glad tumbleweed took over reporting MOTU status for the release team.
[06:58] <micahg> orly, cool
[06:58] <ScottK> tumbleweed: Welcome.
[06:58] <ScottK> Yeah.
[06:58] <ScottK> He and Laney are on ubuntu-release now.
[08:45] <blackmoon-105> hi, in a -dev package there are only a .h file, or also binary files? (.a, .la, .so)
[08:51]  * tumbleweed gets home. Took an extended post-UDS UK detour
[08:57] <blackmoon-105> no one?
[08:57] <tumbleweed> http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html
[08:57] <jmarsden> blackmoon-105: Binaries too... but why don't you try looking at one to find out?   dpkg -L glib2.0-dev    for example
[08:58] <tumbleweed> blackmoon-105: ^
[08:58] <tumbleweed> blackmoon-105: it's common to have .a files in -dev, and possibly .la, but please try to avoid .la in new packages
[09:02] <blackmoon-105> jmarsden: i've look in some packages and sometimes i've fount it and sometimes not. this is the reason because i've asked
[09:02] <blackmoon-105> tumbleweed: thanks for the link
[09:04] <tumbleweed> blackmoon-105: it's out of date, but still informative
[09:05] <blackmoon-105> tumbleweed: i'm re-package libopensc and i don't know if i must include the .la, .a, .so files in the -dev package or in the lib package
[09:07] <tumbleweed> blackmoon-105: see also this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/05/msg01003.html
[09:08] <blackmoon-105> tumbleweed: ok, thanks
[09:51] <evaluate> micahg, ping?
[09:54] <evaluate> micahg, I was curios as to what the status of #702316 was. I noticed you merged 1.4.0 from Debian, but the patch for natty hasn't yet been applied.
[18:30] <blackmoon-105> hi, i've made an updated opensc (0.12.10) deb package, available on my launchpad repo. there is a way for include it in a ubuntu repostories?
[18:31] <stlsaint> blackmoon-105: your package must get sponsored
[18:32] <stlsaint> blackmoon-105: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[18:33] <tumbleweed> but more to the point, opensc is maintained in debian, we just modify the version we get from them, and we generally try to avoid unecessary diversion from debian
[18:33] <tumbleweed> have you spoken to the maintainer of the package in debian, to see if he needs / wants help with it?
[18:35] <stlsaint> blackmoon-105: ah yea you dont want to go messing with another maintainers package especially if its being maintained in debian
[18:36] <tumbleweed> well, we don't have maintainers in ubuntu, you can touch anything (although we ask the right people when possible)
[18:37] <stlsaint> tumbleweed: gotcha
[18:37] <tumbleweed> but we still try not to diverge from debian where possible. We don't have the manpower to maintain unecessary differences
[18:37] <blackmoon-105> stlsaint: the package is already in debian, but the software version is not updated with the version on opensc website
[18:38] <tumbleweed> blackmoon-105: and is there a particular reason why we need this new release now?
[18:39] <blackmoon-105> yes bacaus the latest version 0.12.x is the only version which can do working my smart card reader
[18:39] <tumbleweed> that sounds like a good reason to do something about it :) I still suggest poking the debian maintainer first, though
[18:40] <blackmoon-105> this smart card reader is used in italy for read the healt card
[18:40] <blackmoon-105> *health
[18:41] <blackmoon-105> tumbleweed: ok i'll try to send an email to the debian maintainer
[18:42] <broder> blackmoon-105: better would be filing a bug with the debian maintainer
[18:43] <blackmoon-105> debian have a bug page as here in launchpad?
[18:43] <blackmoon-105> broder: ^
[18:43] <broder> blackmoon-105: no, they use their own bugtracker
[18:43] <broder> https://bugs.debian.org
[18:44] <broder> but the easiest way to use it is to install reportbug
[18:44] <blackmoon-105> broder: ok, thank you
[20:40] <hrw> Laney, persia: can 'revu uploaders' group be dropped finally? it is listed as 'no longer necessary' but each 'ubuntu contributor' becames member of it.
[22:55] <stlsaint> im having a issue setting up apt-cacher-ng
[22:58] <jtaylor> what kind of issue?
[22:59] <stlsaint> jtaylor: i believe i have correctly configured but when i hit the import button on localhost:3142 it says no index file found
[22:59] <stlsaint> No index files detected. Unable to continue, cannot map files to internal locations.
[22:59] <jtaylor> to import at least one client must have updated
[23:00] <stlsaint> so i would need to configure my pbuilder to use apt-cacher-ng then update
[23:00] <jtaylor> or use your local machine
[23:00] <stlsaint> ah kk
[23:00] <jtaylor> -o Acquire::html::proxy=...
[23:02] <stlsaint> jtaylor: is there something specific i must do to pbuilders to use cache?
[23:03] <jtaylor> pbuilder has the --http-proxy option
[23:03] <stlsaint> i mean are they treated like clients and i must add the -hhtp command
[23:03] <jtaylor> or use the http_proxy env variable
[23:03] <jtaylor> the later is required for cowbuilder
[23:03] <stlsaint> kk, thats what i meant, ok sounds good, i will give it a go
[23:03] <jtaylor> or if you want it permantently for the rc
[23:07] <stlsaint> is it safe to move the pbuilderrc to /home/username/.pbuilderrc cause im tired of seeing the error that there is no .pbuilderrc everytime i run
[23:07] <jtaylor> should be no problem
[23:11] <stlsaint> wow so it seems i have no ~/.pbuilderrc
[23:11] <stlsaint> really im just upset at not knowing where it is
[23:21] <geser> pbuilder caches the downloaded debs by default, but I use apt-cacher-ng to have a common cache for my pbuilder and my normal system
[23:21] <stlsaint> geser: yea i noticed that as i was reading more and more
[23:23] <jtaylor> its also useful to cache for VM's
[23:25] <geser> I also had to use a proxy for my pbuilder as I use tmpfs for buildspace and pbuilder uses hard-links to get it's cache into the build environment which doesn't work cross-partition
[23:25] <stlsaint> will the apt-cacher-ng/_import folder automatically update as new packages go into the archives folder?
[23:26] <jtaylor> it will delete the packages it adds to the archive from the import folder
[23:26] <geser> I disabled the pbuilder cache as apt-cacher-ng does the caching already (no need to cache it twice)
[23:27] <geser> (using apt-cacher-ng as http_proxy in pbuilder)
[23:44] <stlsaint> jtaylor: question: i just made a new pbuilder for karmic, since it had to get new packages will those be added to apt-cacher-ng/_import folder or will i have to do manually?
[23:54] <stlsaint> exit


[14:23] <tarzeau> unfortunately i missed the freeze and far2l won't make it into 23.04 :'( but i'd be happy if someone likes mc (or generally 2 pane filemanagers) if you can test it anyways (packages.debian.org/far2l)


[00:40] <sveinung> Is author mapping supported in bazaar like it's in git? (for example map user name "fulln" to "full name<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when importing from svn)
[01:20] <AmanicA> sveinung:
[01:20] <AmanicA> I've not heard of it
[01:21] <lifeless> its not in bzr-svn as that would prevent parallel conversions interoperating
[01:21] <lifeless> you could in bzr-fast-import by filtering the stream
[01:21] <AmanicA> interesting
[01:23] <sveinung> lifeless: thanks
[03:16] <spiv> LarstiQ: done
[14:40] <jelmer> james_w, Jc2k: Have you seen this: http://hg-git.github.com/ ? Based on dulwich
[14:41] <james_w> nice
[14:41] <james_w> have you tried it?
[14:43] <jelmer> no, not yet
[14:44] <jelmer> unfortunately they include their own copy of dulwich
[14:44] <james_w> a clean copy?
[14:44] <jelmer> no, with patches
[14:45] <LarstiQ> sounds useful
[14:45] <james_w> ouch
[14:46] <jelmer> I'll send them an email asking them if they're interested in cooperating more closely
[15:18] <ronny> jelmer: i already bugged them about giving back
[23:10] <poolie> hello
[23:21] <mwhudson> poolie: hello
[23:21] <jml> poolie: hello
[23:21] <mwhudson> poolie: what's the release schedule for 1.15 looking like?
[23:22] <poolie> mwhudson: from memory we should be about 3 weeks out
[23:22] <poolie> jml, did you work out with basicosx if you're driving this one? or the next one?
[23:22] <jml> poolie: so, start of UDS?
[23:22] <jml> poolie: I thought I was 1.16 -- I'll double-check the email trail.
[23:59] <mwhudson> hello
[23:59] <mwhudson> does anyone know of any medium sized git repos i might test launchpad's new git import service with?
[23:59] <mwhudson> i'


[03:51] <bossorange> clear
[07:54] <rghvdberg> hi .. just decided to switch from ubuntu to lubuntu :-)
[08:44] <vuongdothanhhuy> me too, I was running Ubuntu on my netbook, but its Unity gets too slow that I have to switch to LXDE environment. :D
[08:46] <gordonjcp> I didn't find unity 2D particularly slow
[08:46] <gordonjcp> memory hungry, but not slow
[08:48] <vuongdothanhhuy> yep, if I run Ubuntu only, without loading my daily working software, it's not too slow. However, when I load in Pidgin, Chrome with 3 tabs, and Netbeans, it just gets slow and slow and...not response for a while ;)
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> it's not the matter of RAM, but the CPU.
[08:49] <vuongdothanhhuy> my Atom is too weak to handle all of them together
[08:54] <gordonjcp> ah, there's your problem, Chrome
[08:54] <gordonjcp> get rid of that bloated thing and install firefox
[08:55] <Unit193> Once you install 12, dump firefox for xxxterm.
[08:55] <half-duplex> i would rather lubuntu had firefox installed by default instead of chrome
[08:55] <Unit193> Chromium.
[08:55] <half-duplex> well yer.......
[08:55] <vuongdothanhhuy> In Windows, Firefox seems to be slower than Chrome. Are there any differences in Ubuntu?
[09:50] <G4MBY> #join #lubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <akls> is there any reason why chrome is used by default?
[11:11] <head_victim> akls: it was determined the best fit for the aim of Lubuntu
[11:11] <JohnDoe_71Rus> in lubuntu chrome or chromium?
[11:12] <akls> chromium, yes
[11:13] <akls> head_victim, but for me it seems like firefox is using much less memory http://lifehacker.com/5884941/browser-speed-tests-chrome-17-firefox-10-internet-explorer-9-and-opera-1161
[11:13] <akls> though it's slower sometimes
[11:14] <head_victim> akls: decisions on what to include are taken long before a month or two before release.
[11:15] <akls> head_victim, I understand, but it's not something that must be changed as far as possible.
[11:15] <head_victim> akls: I'm not sure what you mean by that.
[11:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> akls: but this ubutnu 10.04 ;) http://postimage.org/image/5wpeioim3/
[11:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 52 tabs
[11:17] <akls> sounds reasonable for 52 tabs
[11:17] <akls> try same with chromium? :)
[11:17] <head_victim> But completely useless for determining what browser to use.
[11:18] <JohnDoe_71Rus> and get too much processes
[11:34] <akls> err...
[11:46] <rabbitear> l is for lushy expensive cpu time
[12:06] <gordonjcp> heh
[12:06] <gordonjcp> so over the past week, in order to actually get a usable system that didn't want me to chew my own feet off
[12:07] <gordonjcp> I've ended up replacing Chromium with Firefox, because Chromium is too memory-hungry and is just too annoying to use with its stupid "this file may harm your computer" nonsense
[12:07] <gordonjcp> I've replaced sylpheed with thunderbird, because sylpheed is too much of a ballache to configure to do smtp over ssl
[12:08] <gordonjcp> and I've replaced lxde with unity because lxde is just too inconvenient and slow
[12:43] <KM0201> gordonjcp: lol, to "inconvenient" ? please explain
[12:43] <KM0201> cuz frankly, all your "reasons" are almost laughable

[12:46] <gordonjcp> I've just come to prefer the way that Unity works
[12:46] <gordonjcp> I used to like Gnome 2, and LXDE works quite a bit like it
[12:47] <gordonjcp> or at least, it more-or-less fits the same muscle memory
[12:47] <gordonjcp> chromium is comically bad
[12:49] <gordonjcp> although the thing that put me off it is the way you just can't turn off that "this file may harm your computer" message when you want to download a PDF
[14:09] <freedomrun> is there lubuntu daily alternate???
[14:10] <bioterror> yes
[14:10] <freedomrun> please can you give me the link I don`t know why installer is breaking machine + components are tested and work ok
[14:11] <freedomrun> and I need to install it today
[14:16] <bioterror> no dailies for two days
[14:16] <bioterror> freedomrun, 64bit or 32bit?
[14:16] <freedomrun> bioterror: find the one here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/
[14:17] <freedomrun> found
[14:17] <bioterror> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/
[14:17] <bioterror> yeah
[14:17] <bioterror> :D
[14:17] <freedomrun> 32bit ...not a problem once it is on harddisk :)
[14:19] <freedomrun> is there a log where I could look what went wrong??
[14:19] <freedomrun> whith the installer
[14:40] <kanliot> hi
[14:40] <kanliot> hyperair
[14:40] <kanliot> there is a log
[14:41] <kanliot> was the installer crashing or locking up?
[14:41] <hyperair> i don't know, and i can't because i'm trying to figure out why the f*** lightdm won't log in.
[14:42] <bioterror> :D
[14:42] <kanliot> did you use full disk encryption?
[14:43] <kanliot> the installer finished?
[14:43] <kanliot> did it?
[14:44]  * hyperair has no idea wtf is going on here
[16:20] <rabbitear> http://www.humblebundle.com/   <-- 6 days left
[17:52] <ap03> i needhelp
[17:52] <ap03> i dont have mic volume on skype,  any idea how to fix that
[17:53] <holstein> i would look in alsamixer.. you can consider using pulse, and installing pavucontrol ap03 ...i would double check the hardware, assuming this is a desktop machine
[17:54] <ap03> how do i check what i am using?
[17:55] <ap03> when i got hardware, i dont get displayed any hardware at all
[17:55] <ap03> * to hardware drivers
[17:55] <bioterror> but mic works otherwise?
[17:55] <ap03> yes, it worked on previous version of linux i used a few days ago
[17:55] <gordonjcp> ap03: alsamixer
[17:56] <gordonjcp> and also do "aplay -l" to show you what devices you have
[17:56] <gordonjcp> what sort of mic are you using?
[17:56] <ap03> its inbuilt mic into my laptop
[17:56] <ap03> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[17:57] <gordonjcp> okay
[17:57] <gordonjcp> alsamixer, then hit "F4" for the record settings
[17:57] <gordonjcp> don't forget that the play and record settings are always different
[17:57] <ap03> ok
[17:58] <ap03> ha
[17:58] <ap03> thanks, it might actually work, it displayed my mic as "muted"
[17:58] <gordonjcp> so you can get the record levels, and pick which input to record *From*
[17:59] <gordonjcp> eh aye
[17:59] <gordonjcp> that's playback though
[17:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> code.google.com/p/volti/ beter include to lubuntu
[17:59] <gordonjcp> press F4, what have you got now?
[17:59] <ap03> nothing
[17:59] <ap03> when i press it nothing happens, hold on i will try a testcall on skype again
[18:00] <holstein> not necessarily trust the labels in there either.. in alsamixer
[18:00] <holstein> dont*
[18:01] <ap03> i installed gnome alsa mixer
[18:02] <gordonjcp> ap03: okay, run alsamixer, from a terminal
[18:02] <ap03> ok i ran it, should i press f4 now?
[18:02] <gordonjcp> wait
[18:02] <ap03> ok
[18:02] <gordonjcp> it should say on the third line from the top, "View: F3:[Playback]"
[18:02] <gordonjcp> with playback in yellow
[18:03] <gordonjcp> right?
[18:03] <gordonjcp> and along the bottom, Master, Headphone, Speaker etc etc
[18:03] <ap03> yes
[18:03] <gordonjcp> okay, F4
[18:03] <ap03> ok
[18:03] <gordonjcp> now what do you see?
[18:03] <gordonjcp> fewer mixer sliders?
[18:03] <ap03> yes
[18:04] <gordonjcp> maybe says "F4:[Capture]"?
[18:04] <ap03> the last two graphs are gone
[18:04] <ap03> yes
[18:04] <gordonjcp> okay, one of the sliders will say "CAPTURE" in red along the bottom, which one is it?
[18:04] <ap03> "mic boost"
[18:05] <ap03> oh hold on, i am confused
[18:05] <gordonjcp> okay, try selecting the mike input and adjusting the level
[18:05] <ap03> ah ok
[18:06] <ap03> how do i adjust the level, when i try the arrows , i only get prompted with another name
[18:06] <ap03> its max level
[18:06] <ap03> there are two unused ones, input source and input source at the end
[18:07] <gordonjcp> input source is probably important here
[18:07] <gordonjcp> set it to mic
[18:07] <ap03> done
[18:07] <holstein> i would test them all though.. not trusting the labels
[18:07] <ap03> cool, it doesnt have a graph though, with the sound level
[18:09] <AmberJ_> Hello
[18:11] <AmberJ_> When I boot Lubuntu 11.10 ISO in live cd mode in vitualbox (Virtualbox from Oracle's website, not virtualbox-ose), it boots fine and for a minute (or so) I can see and move my mouse pointer in VM.
[18:12] <AmberJ_> After some time (less than half a minute), my mouse pointer does not moves if I move my mouse...
[18:12] <AmberJ_> +inside VM.
[18:13] <AmberJ_> VM seemless mouse integration is enabled...So, when outside VM window, my mouse behaves normal. But when my pointer overlaps with VM window, it is (seemlessly) auto-captured in VM but it won't move.
[18:13] <AmberJ_> Anyone faced this problem?
[18:32] <smile-plesier> bye :)


[01:43]  * svaksha wishes everyone a Happy 2009
[01:45] <tyche> Same to you, svaksha
[01:45] <svaksha> thanks
[11:14] <Tumie> tyche: i hope you are sleeping now..
[16:10] <Tumie> tyche, johnc4510, boredandblogging: happy newyear :)
[16:10] <tyche> Same to you, Tumie
[16:11] <tyche> And I hope, for once, it really IS.
[16:11] <Tumie> this year will be my best year,,,, i
[16:11] <Tumie> i'm going to start with ubuntu, and end with ubuntu :)
[16:11] <tyche> :-D
[16:11] <Tumie> 9.04 , 9.10 :)
[16:13] <Tumie> Jaunty Jackalope and........... a Kangarou..
[16:21] <boredandblogging> Tumie: same to you
[16:22] <Tumie> what is the name of 9.10 ?
[16:22] <boredandblogging> don't think that has been decided yet
[16:23] <Tumie> ok,,
[16:23] <Tumie> their was a wiki page with the possibilaties... where is that?
[16:23] <boredandblogging> don't know
[16:24] <Tumie> can't find it anymore :p


 ubuntu is dead  <Linus> rip ubuntu   not the best support for #ubuntu
[06:50] <bazhang> looks like everything he has "advised" is just random/wrong
[06:51] <genii> Taking a poll or opinions about systemd earlier
[06:51] <bazhang> telling people to google it for irssi
[06:52] <bazhang> and just plain offtopic now
 babinloston If you have that many machines that need to be public facing. You are in the wrong channel 2) You are useless
[07:27] <IdleOne> If he comes back, he has been warned and linked to the guidelines. feel free to act accordingly.
[07:39] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu [Linus] (~LFS@<IP_ADDRESS>): LFS1  giving consistently wrong/unhelpful "advice", rude to multiple users, repeatedly offtopic
[08:56] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu SMWim<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:17] <LjL> chu: oh good lord. look at the tracker for this fellow
[17:00] <genii> Anyone who speaks Russian? Zaq_ in #u
[17:00] <k1l> i told him already several times that he needs to go to -ru. even in pm
[17:00] <k1l> i dont know if he speaks that bad english or if that is on purpose
[17:01] <Pici> It doesn't really help that #ubuntu-ru is +r
[17:01] <k1l> i told him to register and login, too
[17:44] <genii> bazhang: Is there someone in #freenode who can speak to him in his own tongue?
[17:45] <bazhang> genii, he can speak english well enough it seems
[17:45] <genii> Hm.
[17:53] <genii> I almost want to join #ubuntu-ru to see if he re-appears there :)
[17:56] <bazhang> Registered : Nov 04 10:34:37 2013 (7 hours, 21 minutes, 6 seconds ago)
[17:57] <bazhang> he was in the channel, so he knows how to get there, and is already registered for quite a while now
[18:00] <bazhang> and he's in...
[18:05] <genii> Who the heck heats up the power button of their computer for 10-15 minutes to see if that helps to turn it back on?
[18:06] <LjL> O.O
[18:06] <bazhang> how is that even on topic?
[18:06] <LjL> that's worse than when i put a LED inside the telephone socket with my bare hands to see if it was live :(
[18:06] <genii> It's not, and they were already referred to ##hardwaqre earlier
[18:06] <Pici> LjL: thats not a bad idea though
[18:07] <bazhang> monkeydust said ti was ok "if you're sweet"
[18:07] <LjL> Pici: well, i concluded it was live
 I can't change my screen refresh rate to 24hz on 13.04 and 13.10
[19:28] <bazhang> that seems really low
[19:29] <genii> Yes indeed
[19:29] <bazhang> 50hz I've heard of
[19:36] <Unit193> Ask if he means color depth, and if it's an older intel.
[19:37] <bazhang> ah the 32bit color question
[19:38] <Unit193> Well, my guess is it's "stuck" in 16, and flash isn't working for him/her or something.  I had that, simple xorg.conf fixed it.
[19:39] <genii> Fine, mirak is on his own.
[19:39] <bazhang> whoa that got unpleasant fast
[19:41] <genii> I'm just going to avoid speaking to him now and let someone else figure it out.
[19:41] <genii> ( figure out his problem)
[19:41] <bazhang> I always step away at this point
[19:42] <genii> I believe he thinks I'm attacking, whereas I'm just trying to understand his issue, which doesn't seem to be correctly explained
[19:43]  * genii wanders back to the coffeepot
[19:50] <genii> AlanBell: Hah! Before they got offended I was preparing the read-edid commands you just did.
[19:51] <AlanBell> yeah, I am not going to tell them that they are wrong, I will let their monitor tell them
[19:52] <genii> Possibly they are using some converter which blocks/obfuscates the edid codes
[19:53] <bazhang> * [Masturbator] (~ubuntu@p4FFBE296.dip0.t-ipconnect.de): Masturbator  <--- that nick seems not appropriate
[19:53] <genii> Hm "Masturbator<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu"
[19:53] <genii> Yes
[19:54] <AlanBell> I think they are just confused about movies that are 24 frames per second, which isn't really the same as monitor refresh rates (and content that is 1080P is 60Hz)
[19:54] <Pici> If they say something, then ask them to change it.  If they're just idling, then theres really no point in making a scene about it.
[19:55] <genii> Pici: They entered and left immediately after. Don't seem to be in any other channels either.
[19:56] <bazhang> and he wont give the info, just more attacks
[20:31] <LjL> actually, 1080P content is usually 24, 25 or 30 fps (though it doesn't have to)
[20:32] <LjL> although i'm not entirely sure why one would use such a framerate on a *computer*
[21:11] <genii> Whoah! Mass exit in # there
[21:11] <genii> #u , rather
[21:11] <Myrtti> buhbye irccloud
[21:12] <Myrtti> https://twitter.com/irccloud
[21:12] <genii> Looks like, yeah
[21:12] <Pici> looks planned
[21:12] <Myrtti> indeed
[21:17] <LjL> i plan to bring the internet down
[21:17] <LjL> shut down your computers in good order
[21:17] <LjL> remember to only pull the plug when it says it's safe to turn off your computer
[21:18]  * genii gets ready to flip the switch on the power bar
[21:18] <LjL> or alternatively, if you're using an Amiga, just do it and hope nobody added write caching to the filesystem while you weren't looking
[21:18] <LjL> except genii because he's considered a war criminal by Amigas
[21:18] <genii> LjL: Geez, that was ... how long ago now?
[21:18] <LjL> Amigas don't forget
[21:19] <LjL> my Amiga is also from "long ago"
[21:19] <genii> Talk about holding a grudge! ;)
[21:19] <genii> If any more ever come in I'll make sure to check in with you first.
[21:20] <LjL> like that will bring back all the innocent who died
[22:51] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu Obscene_CNN trolling with forkbomb and rickroll youtube video


[02:40] <jeremiah> ehlo localhost
[02:40] <jeremiah> I want to ascertain the delta between debian's ARM v5 toolchain and Ubuntu's ARM v7
[02:41] <jeremiah> I'd like to build ARM v7 debs for the BeagleBoard
[02:58] <lool> jeremiah: Create an Ubuntu chroot and build a package?
[02:58] <lool> jeremiah: or use a wrapper to pass -march=armv7 to gcc
[03:00] <jeremiah> lool: Wow. Sounds pretty easy. :-)
[03:00] <jeremiah> Thanks!
[03:02] <jeremiah> lool: heh. I'm here with you at DebConf. :)
[08:02] <hrw> morning
[08:25] <cooloney> amitk: i just got our .35 master kernel working on my panda
[08:25] <amitk> cooloney: cool! I see that SMP does not work?
[08:25] <cooloney> amitk: yeah, SMP got some build error.
[08:25] <cooloney> amitk: i already got a patch to fix that.
[08:26] <cooloney> amitk: but got another building error
[08:26] <amitk> cooloney: nice!
[08:26] <amitk> cooloney: no patches in tony's tree for these?
[08:26] <cooloney> but if you wanna single core Ubuntu kernel for omap2/3/4, it is ok now
[08:27] <cooloney> amitk: i don't find that. i guess smp was never enabled in single kernel for omap2/3/4
[08:27] <amitk> cooloney: it is a good first step I think
[08:28] <cooloney> amitk: yeah, works fine with console=ttyS2 and the maverick rootfs built from rootstock
[08:28] <cooloney> amitk: but i plan to spend sometime to take a look at the smp things.
[08:29] <amitk> cooloney: you should probably check if this has been discussed on linux-omap
[08:29] <cooloney> amitk: since i turned off smp config in our master omap flavor
[08:29] <amitk> cooloney: understook
[08:29] <amitk> understood
[08:30] <cooloney> amitk: no problem.
[08:46] <cooloney> amitk: i saw an email from Tony in linux-omap mail list.
[08:47] <cooloney> CONFIG_SMP we can't enable as that requires various ARM changes
[08:47] <cooloney> to work on unicore systems. But hopefully we can enable that too
[08:47] <cooloney> at some point with select SMP if ARCH_OMAP4.
[10:01] <lag> cooloney: Have you tried to boot the latest daily build on the Panda yet?
[10:01] <lag> Come to think of it, has anyone?
[10:03] <lag> ogra: ? --^
[10:20] <cooloney> lag: not yet. any issue?
[10:20] <cooloney> i just tried kernel.
[10:27] <lag> You tell me :)
[10:27] <lag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/472128/
[10:39] <lag> cooloney: --^
[10:40] <cooloney> lag: no idea about that. that's from daily image?
[10:41] <cooloney> lag: there was no much chage recently
[10:42] <lag> I'm waiting to hear back from ogra_cmpc - ogra
[11:22] <dcordes_> while creating a maverick ubuntu-netbook rootfs rootstock freezed on
[11:22] <dcordes_> * Installing 2 assemblies from libappindicator0.1-cil into Mono
[11:22] <dcordes_> now I would just start over but it is like the 5th failed rootstock image in a sequence and I really don't want to
[11:23] <dcordes_> is there a way to manually intervene w/o losing the entire progress again ?
[11:31] <dcordes_> I am running ubuntu lucid and the rootstock version used is rootstock <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:39] <ogra> lag, still rsyncing here, i havent tested the image yet, is that with the default boot.scr ?
[11:48] <lag> ogra: No
[11:49] <lag> ogra: It's with console=ttyUSB<blar> and console=tty2 set
[11:52] <ogra> lag, but no hdmi options ?
[11:55] <lag> Nope
[11:57] <ogra> weird
[11:57] <ogra> i'll try here soon, rsync just finished
[11:58] <dcordes_> ogra: can you please comment on the rootstock problem ?
[11:59] <ogra> dcordes_, build ubuntu-minimal and install the rest under real hw (or in the vm you will use the rootfs)
[12:00] <dcordes_> ogra: I did this before. iirc I had the same error installing netbook manually then
[12:03] <ogra> well, it works for others this way
[12:06] <dcordes_> ogra: if I see the same error during ubuntu-netbook install, do you recommned a workaround ?
[12:06] <ogra> there is no workaround
[12:06] <dcordes_> ogra: I know it is possible to remove mono. I did this on my current ubuntu-desktop rootfs
[12:07] <ogra> if it also fails for you on real hardware thats a different issue to failing on rootstock
[12:07] <dcordes_> ogra: do you think it might be related to using lucid on the host machine ?
[12:07] <ogra> that mono installation fails in cross arch chroots is a known issue thats not fixable unless mono changes
[12:08] <ogra> if it fails on real hardware, thats not known to me so likely a new bug but completely unrelated to mono being uninstallable in rootstock
[12:09] <dcordes_> ogra: ok then possibily what I have seen before was just coincidence - or rather related to the fact that mono is such a huge mess that it is not really coincidental it has tons of bugs
[12:10] <dcordes_> ogra: anyway I will try it that way and let you know.
[12:10] <dcordes_> 66M     armel-rootfs-201008021300.tgz
[12:10] <dcordes_> is that expected maverick ubuntu-minimal size ?
[12:11] <ogra> likely bigger
[12:23] <dcordes_> ogra: likely ? how big ?
[12:24] <ogra> no idea, 120M ?
[12:24] <ogra> lag, todays image works fine with my monitor
[12:32] <dcordes_> ogra: its 160 uncompressed...
[12:34] <lag> k
[12:35] <ogra> wow
[12:35] <ogra> resizing became really fast with the new inode structure on the image
[12:36] <ogra> like under 2min
[12:36] <ogra> for a 4G Sd
[12:37] <dcordes_> ogra: you guys should add the mono problem in the manpage
[12:37] <dcordes_> ogra: so people don't waste hours and hours like me.
[12:38] <ogra> there are open bugs about it
[12:38] <dcordes_> ogra: about documenting it or fixing it ?
[12:38] <ogra> about the brokeness
[12:41] <dcordes_> ogra: I can not see it. Do you have a link ?
[12:42] <ogra> Bug 610719
[12:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 610719 in mono (Ubuntu) "Mono hangs while running with qemu ARM user emulation (chroot) (dup-of: 530000)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/610719
[12:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 530000 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu) "mono assembly installation under qemu-arm-static hangs (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 30)" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/530000
[12:42] <dcordes_> ogra: what is 'user emulation' ?
[12:43] <ogra> chroot
[12:51] <dcordes_> Bug 612504
[12:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 612504 in project-rootstock "documentation: add a note on mono problem (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/612504
[12:59] <rsalveti> morning
[12:59] <rsalveti> let me read the log
[13:00] <dcordes_> rsalveti: morning. now the rootstock team is complete :D
[13:01] <rsalveti> dcordes_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootStock/KnownIssues
[13:01] <rsalveti> this mono issue is already there
[13:01] <rsalveti> this sucks in so many ways hehe
[13:02] <dcordes_> rsalveti: yes in the wiki... yeah truly sucks
[13:03] <rsalveti> mono tries to read many files from /proc
[13:03] <rsalveti> will try to map the memory and so on, giving lots of seg faults
[13:04] <rsalveti> with qemu vanilla you'll just get a seg fault instead of a hang
[13:04] <rsalveti> I'd recommend you to not install this package, or try rootstock in a real arm hardware, avoiding qemu
[13:05] <rsalveti> if you want to generate a bigger image
[13:05] <rsalveti> or, fix the mono bug :-)
[13:06] <rsalveti> ogra: you mean, by just changing the image to add more inodes the resizes now takes less minutes?
[13:08] <lag> mythripk: Ping
[13:09] <dcordes_> rsalveti: I was advised to do this already
[13:09] <dcordes_> rsalveti: thanks
[13:09] <dcordes_> rsalveti: I think it must be added in the direct documentation of the program until it is fixed upstream.
[13:09] <dcordes_> or in rootstock
[13:10] <rsalveti> dcordes_: ok, we could just add this link into rootstock's man page, would that be enough?
[13:10] <rsalveti> the known issues link
[13:10] <dcordes_> rsalveti: yes
[13:13] <dcordes_> rsalveti: additionally one could edit the wiki to draw more attention on the mono thing, i.e. moving it top and stating clearly it makes every rootstock seed fail that contains mono.
[13:13] <dcordes_> rsalveti: isn't that pretty much everything but ubuntu-minimal ?
[13:13] <dcordes_> I tried to login with my ID but wiki gives me error.
[13:14] <ogra> rsalveti, yeah, it finishes after the first pass instead of doing four and has no write time at the end as we had it before
[13:14] <rsalveti> dcordes_: yep, at least when related with the big ubuntu meta packages
[13:15] <rsalveti> dcordes_: sure, we can change that in the wiki too
[13:15] <dcordes_> rsalveti: ok. I think that should be mentioned in the wiki then. could you add it ?
[13:15] <dcordes_> thanks
[13:15] <rsalveti> ogra: haha, that's nice :-) as a side effect of your problem we solved another one
[13:15] <ogra> yeah
[13:16] <ogra> i first thought it was crashed since it was so breezing fast
[13:16] <dcordes_> with all the bug reporting I would like to thank you for the program. it is a really good approach
[13:16] <ogra> but it properly resized to 4G
[13:16] <dcordes_> s/with/beside/
[13:16]  * ogra tries on the XM next
[13:17] <rsalveti> ogra: cool, will also try on my beagle
[13:17] <ogra> well, the C4 will likely see OOM
[13:17] <rsalveti> dcordes_: nice, thanks
[13:17] <ogra> at least after the installation
[13:18] <rsalveti> ogra: plymouth always gives an OOM
[13:18] <rsalveti> even if you get a very basic image with rootstock
[13:18] <ogra> that should be gone since a while
[13:18] <rsalveti> well, I tested 3 days ago
[13:18] <ogra> with what image ?
[13:19] <ogra> we didnt build any since mid of the sprint
[13:19] <rsalveti> a very basic image, created with rootstock, but using the latest kernel package, after generating the uInitrd
[13:19] <ogra> hmm, k
[13:19] <ogra> thats bad
[13:19] <rsalveti> yep
[13:19] <ogra> there were plenty kernel changes and one fix to ureadahead that should prevent the crash
[13:20] <rsalveti> will try again today, it's easy to test
[13:21] <rsalveti> do we have bugs for this issue already?
[13:21] <ogra> yep, i think so
[13:22] <ogra> Bug 600359
[13:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 600359 in ureadahead (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "ureadahead generating oom messages during boot. (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600359
[13:23] <rsalveti> thanks
[13:58] <dyfet> NCommander: ping
[14:00] <lag> mythripk: ping
[14:38] <ogra> hrm, resizinmg on the XM fails
[14:39] <ogra> seems it detects the SD as readonly media
[14:39] <ogra> weird
[14:42] <dyfet> r/o? yea that is rather odd
[14:46] <hrw> r/o or write protected?
[14:46] <ogra> it says it cant access mmcblk0 in readwrite mode
[14:46] <ogra> it being sfdisk
[14:47] <hrw> checked what kernel log said?
[14:47] <ogra> oopses all over
[14:47] <ogra> and OOM all over
[14:47] <ogra> which is weird
[14:48] <hrw> I mean what kernel said about sd card
[14:49] <ukleinek> npitre: you're still nico at marvell.com?
[14:49] <ogra> no idea, it hardlocked after oem-config was done and now it doesnt boot anymore
[14:50] <ogra> so no access to dmesg
[14:50] <ukleinek> npitre: if not, http://ksummit2010.kernel.org/nominated-list should be updated
[14:51] <amitk> ukleinek: npitre is with canonical now and he is currently on vacation
[15:18] <rsalveti> ogra: did you have time to review and push the rootstock debdiff?
[15:19] <ukleinek> amitk: thanks
[15:21] <NCommander> dyfet: pong?
[15:21] <dyfet> hey, where are you this week?
[15:22] <NCommander> dyfet: NYC, and DebConf 10 (partially)
[15:22] <dyfet> ah, okay, excellent
[15:22] <NCommander> dyfet: where are you?
[15:23] <dyfet> home
[15:42] <ogra> rsalveti, uploaded
[15:42] <rsalveti> ogra: nice, thanks
[16:13] <mythripk> lag: u pinged ?
[16:14] <lag> mythripk: I did
[16:14] <lag> mythripk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/472128/
[16:15] <GrueMaster> ogra: Anything I should know about today's images?  I'm currently flashing SD cards and getting ready to boot.
[16:16] <lag> GrueMaster: Check out my paste above
[16:16] <mythripk> lag:do you have all the patch set ? I guess you missed a patch from dispc
[16:17] <mythripk> oops .. :*do
[16:17] <mythripk> i guess you have missed one dispc patch
[16:18] <lag> This is nothing to do with me
[16:18] <lag> This is our live daily builds
[16:18] <lag> I don't think your patches have gone in yet
[16:18] <lag> Unless cooloney ...
[16:18] <lag> Wait one
[16:19] <mythripk> lag: I guess this patch is missed http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=axelcx/kernel-display.git;a=commit;h=2cf64e365a7ca4d7c16ab5a2858f8b0397afcf82
[16:20] <mythripk> lag:From the log it is crashing at the wait_for completion
[16:20] <mythripk> can you check that /
[16:21] <mythripk> and this is patch from the tree im talking about , not the one's that had EDID change
[16:28] <lag> mythripk: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=56d2530e9a9b99188daf71855518672d80e795b0
[16:32] <mythripk> lag:If im not wrong isnt this 11days old tree and the one's you were all using ? Also was this a one off event or is this always seen ? . I had seen this without the above mentioned patch
[16:34] <lag> I believe this is the one we are using
[16:34] <lag> This is the first time I've seen this error
[16:36] <mythripk> k , Im at home now , let me try out tomorrow to see if i can in anyway reproduce this , because i have not seen this before(with the HPD irq handler patch.
[16:38] <lag> mythripk: Okay. Well our branch is here if you want to take a look to see what's applied and what isn't
[16:38] <lag> mythripk: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4
[16:38] <lag> I have only seen this happen with my monitor - others are okay still
[16:40] <mythripk> sure i have link to your tree, It doesnt have to do with the monitor.. I guess you would not see this again if you reboot do u?
[16:45] <ogra> lag, we're definitely missing the patches from robclark
[16:48] <ogra> GrueMaster, i see some weird behavior on my XM, the panda image is awesome, thw new changes speed up resizing significantly
[16:48] <lag> Are the new XMs out yet?
[16:48] <ogra> no
[16:48] <lag> Mine still has a memory issue
[16:48] <ogra> there is a uboot patch that might fix it
[16:49] <ogra> i wont be able to update uboot before A3 though
[16:49] <lag> I thought it was hardware?
[16:49] <ogra> both i guess
[16:49] <ogra> there is surely also a _HW issue
[16:50] <ogra> i dont see any memory issues though, what i see is that sfdisk fails with a weird error that seems to indicate the SD is locked
[16:53] <lag> With the latest image?
[16:54] <ogra> yep
[16:54] <ogra> while the omap4 image works like a breeze, the omap3 one on the XM is failing badly
[16:55] <lag> mythripk: I'll test it and let you know
[16:55] <lag> mythripk: Ping me tomorrow morning
[16:55] <lag> mythripk: Enjoy your evening
[16:56] <GrueMaster> ogra: Thanks.  I don't have an XM yet.  I will be getting JamieBennett's in a couple of weeks while I'm in Oxford.
[16:56] <ogra> hrm
[16:56] <ogra> jamies is pre-production
[16:56] <ogra> that should be replaced first
[16:57] <hrw> ogra: XMs are pre-production anyway
[16:57] <GrueMaster> I have the panda image up and sitting at oem-config already.
[16:57] <ogra> hrw, well, but there are some that are closer to the final product than others
[16:57] <ogra> hrw, the ones i'm talking about dont even boot with the same uboot
[16:57] <GrueMaster> Well, any way we look at it it is easier for me to hand-carry it back & get a replacement from Tx.
[16:57] <hrw> auch
[16:58] <ogra> GrueMaster, awesome, please check the rootfs size etc (assuming the resizing was as fast for you as it was for me)
[16:58] <ogra> fdisk -l and df output :)
[16:59] <GrueMaster> It looked pretty fast.  What changes did you make?
[16:59] <ogra> i changed the inode allocation on the original image
[16:59] <GrueMaster> ah
[16:59] <ogra> by default the gap between two inodes is 4096 bytes ... i doubled that
[17:00] <GrueMaster> Not seeing it in livecd.sh bzr branch.  Need to check my copy.
[17:00] <ogra> it was uploaded
[17:00] <ogra> else you wouldnt see it in the image
[17:01] <ogra> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/livecd-rootfs/maverick/revision/117
[17:01] <GrueMaster> ah, there it is.
[17:02] <GrueMaster> I had a glitch at the same time I did a pull.
[17:02] <ogra> ah
[17:02] <GrueMaster> Funny how easy it is to lose track of what is going on when you have 5 systems running on 4 monitors.
[17:02] <ogra> heh, yeah
[17:03] <ogra> add 3 keyboards and mice you shuffle between these :)
[17:03] <GrueMaster> My office looks like the control desk from the matrix.
[17:03] <ogra> hehe
[17:03] <GrueMaster> Only 3?
[17:03] <ogra> how did your monitor behave with the panda image btw ?
[17:04] <GrueMaster> Didn't.  Had to reboot with the dvi settings as before.
[17:04] <GrueMaster> I don't have an HDMI monitor.
[17:04] <ogra> oh, right
[17:04] <ogra> i was just wondering if you saw the same issue as lag
[17:05] <ogra> he apparently hits an oops from the display code
[17:05] <GrueMaster> Nope.  I didn't see anything.  :P
[17:05] <hrw> GrueMaster: brunets, blonds etc?
[17:05] <GrueMaster> I boot once.  If no vid, then I add the cmdline parameters for video & serial console.
[17:06] <ogra> be careful that you dont shut down in the middle of the resize :)
[17:06] <GrueMaster> hrw: I'm partial to redheads.
[17:06] <GrueMaster> No, I still have enough serial console to see when a reboot takes place.
[17:06] <ogra> ah, k
[17:07] <GrueMaster> And besides, if I do for some reason, I usually reflash before moding the cmdline.
[17:08] <ogra> btw ... https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings/0.2
[17:08] <ogra> if you see any issues with panels or applets in the efl session, its likely that the settings arent right yet, please file against the above package
[17:08] <ogra> for now its just a copy of the unity settings with very few mods.
[17:09] <GrueMaster> Ok.
[17:09] <ogra> i will fix that during A3 prep
[17:09] <ogra> but need to know whats missing ...
[17:09] <GrueMaster> A3 is this week.
[17:09] <ogra> the next build will have it in it
[17:09] <ogra> thu, yes
[17:09] <GrueMaster> ok
[17:10] <ogra> freeze starts tomorrow morning, but the package is arch specific anyway so i'll get exceptions as needed
[17:10] <ogra> and after all its all bugfixes :)
[17:10] <GrueMaster> yep.
[17:11] <ogra> GrueMaster, oh, and also please watch the launcher closely, asac is just preparing an upgrade to latest upstream, tomorrows image will have it
[17:12] <GrueMaster> joy.
[17:12] <ogra> i'm a bit worried we get some untested code in
[17:12] <ogra> (though i'm happy asac does it, striked off one TODO from my list :) )
[17:38] <prpplague> rsalveti: ping
[17:39] <rsalveti> prpplague: pong
[17:39] <prpplague> rsalveti: zippy and zippy2 support, you planning to have that in 10.10 , correct?
[17:40] <rsalveti> prpplague: that's the idea, but we still need to upload the patches for review, and wait to see if it gets approved for 10.10
[17:40] <prpplague> rsalveti: 10.10 is going to be based on 2.6.35 kernel?
[17:40] <rsalveti> I just got a few patches and will start looking what can be sent to our upstream kernel
[17:40] <rsalveti> prpplague: yep, that's the idea
[17:41] <prpplague> rsalveti: dandy thanks
[17:41] <rsalveti> prpplague: but I can only test zippy2, as I don't have a zippy 1 board
[17:42] <hrw> rsalveti: prpplague for sure can test z1 ;d
[17:42] <prpplague> rsalveti: did you already send me your contact info?
[17:42] <rsalveti> I think dyfet also has a zippy one
[17:43] <rsalveti> prpplague: nops
[17:44] <prpplague> rsalveti: please send me your shipping and contact info to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:44] <rsalveti> prpplague: sure, will do it now, thanks
[17:45] <dyfet> I do have it
[17:46] <dyfet> The ethernet works on it
[17:46] <hrw> serial and sd too?
[17:47] <rsalveti> probably needs additional patches
[17:47] <dyfet> I had not tested those...I could do so quickly.  I was surprised when the ethernet worked on the latest kernel ;)
[17:48] <rsalveti> dyfet: yep, at least the ethernet port should work, as this is the default in the kernel
[17:48] <rsalveti> for zippy 2 we have to change it and find out the argument from u-boot
[17:49] <prpplague> dyfet: yea the enc28j60 support has been there for awhile and is pretty decent
[17:49]  * prpplague wrote the first enc28j60 driver for 2.4 kernel
[17:50] <dyfet> well, I do have a device node for ttyS3....no device node for the other mmcblk device, though
[17:51] <prpplague> dyfet: the additional uart should be on ttyS1 iirc
[17:52] <dyfet> I have S0-S3
[17:53] <prpplague> dyfet: we generally test the uart with a serial loop back connector and a uart loop back app
[17:53] <dyfet> I used to have a serial loopback plug...
[17:53] <prpplague> rsalveti: i'll include a loopback connector when we send the zippy
[17:54] <rsalveti> prpplague: nice
[17:57] <dyfet> the zippy serial works
[17:57] <dyfet> I started a getty to login on it, and it came up...ttyS1
[17:59] <rsalveti> prpplague: sent
[17:59] <hrw> have a nice rest of day
[17:59] <prpplague> dyfet: dandy
[17:59] <prpplague> rsalveti: got it
[17:59] <rsalveti> dyfet: nice to know, can you check the sd?
[18:02] <dyfet> It works too!  at least as far as dmesg tells me when I stick a sd in...
[18:02] <dyfet> and it gave me the dev nodes for the partitions on that sd...so it seems to read it
[18:03] <rsalveti> dyfet: great
[18:03] <rsalveti> so you can basically test if I'm breaking zippy 1 instead of making it work :-)
[19:39] <dcordes> bad news
[19:41] <dcordes> I did what you told me
[19:42] <JamesWstubbs91> Hello, I'm working on iPhone port of Ubuntu, I'm using the evdev driver for the touchscreen. This works perfecly when the screen is in a portrait orientation.
[19:42] <dcordes> james
[19:43] <JamesWstubbs91> I'm now working on a landscape orientation, I have the framebuffer landscape and have used swapaxes and invertY in xorg.conf
[19:43] <dcordes> I know how to solve the prob for tslib
[19:43] <JamesWstubbs91> The touchscreen works fine and is acting correctly, but the top section of the screen is now "untouchable" I also cant "drag" the mouse up there.
[19:44] <dcordes> you need to add a rotate option in the input section for the tslib.
[19:44] <JamesWstubbs91> Is there a touchscreen calibration tool for evdev
[19:44] <dcordes> oh ok
[19:44] <dcordes> that is something different then
[19:44] <dcordes> never seen untouchable area
[19:45] <dcordes> how about trying tslib
[19:45] <JamesWstubbs91> dcordes: I have to use evdev, I've tried installing tslib evtouch and mutouch from .deb and the latest from source, non pick up the touchscreen automatically or configured manually using xorg.conf,
[19:46] <dcordes> do you set the correct env variab.le. ?
[19:46] <JamesWstubbs91> Hm, what/where is that?
[19:46] <dcordes> TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/eventn
[19:47] <dcordes> it is in the manpage
[19:47] <JamesWstubbs91> Yes I've done that then have tried using the tslib calibrator
[19:47] <dcordes> ogra ping
[19:47] <JamesWstubbs91> Simply said It could find the touchscreen device
[19:47] <dcordes> ok
[19:47] <JamesWstubbs91> it couldn't sorry
[19:48] <dcordes> are you 100% you set right fevice?
[19:48] <JamesWstubbs91> Yes
[19:48] <JamesWstubbs91> It's /dev/input/event1
[19:48] <JamesWstubbs91> Confirmed using the evdev driver
[19:48] <JamesWstubbs91> And also by using cat /dev/input/event1
[19:49] <dcordes> ok
[19:49] <dcordes> typo?
[19:50] <JamesWstubbs91> Nope, worked on trying to get tslib working for a few days, I won't have typo'd the entire time
[19:51] <dcordes> aight then
[19:52] <JamesWstubbs91> The touchscreen works fine in portrait
[19:53] <JamesWstubbs91> It's also quite accurate
[19:53] <dcordes> evdev mailing list ?
[19:53] <JamesWstubbs91> It's almost as if the the resolution is wrong, but I've tried switching the MaxX and MaxY values
[19:53] <JamesWstubbs91> The touchscreen behaved the same
[19:54] <JamesWstubbs91> dcordes: I've tried googling the hell out of it, I have a feeling that using xinput might do the trick, I just can't get my head around the syntax
[19:54] <dcordes> uhm
[19:54] <dcordes> not google
[19:55] <dcordes> write email to evdev mailing list
[19:55] <JamesWstubbs91> Ok, I'll see what they say
[19:55] <dcordes> or tslib.....
[19:55] <GrueMaster> Doesn't evdev have an option to change orientation?
[19:55] <dcordes> btw
[19:56] <GrueMaster> Seems to me I remember something like that.
[19:56] <dcordes> how can I get in touch w/you james
[19:56] <dcordes> I want to help your project
[19:56] <JamesWstubbs91> dcordes: I'm available in irc.osx86.hu in #ix , my projects blog is ixproject.org
[19:57] <dcordes> cool
[19:57] <JamesWstubbs91> GrueMaster: I've managed to change the orientation, I now have a section at the top of the screen I can't move the mouse to
[19:57] <dcordes> where is the rootstock crew when you need them :p
[19:58] <GrueMaster> dcordes: Ping rsalveti.  He's been fixing it up recently.
[19:58] <dcordes> james are you using the ma maverick?
[19:58] <JamesWstubbs91> Nope, I can apperently only use Karmic
[19:59] <JamesWstubbs91> Armv6 support was dropped with Luci
[19:59] <rsalveti> dcordes: yep, need anything?
[19:59]  * dcordes slaps WinCE on screen keyboard for stuttering
[20:00]  * JamesWstubbs91 slaps his keyboard, for the hell of it
[20:00] <dcordes> rsalveti hi
[20:01] <dcordes> cross installed ubuntu-minimal
[20:01] <rsalveti> hi
[20:02] <dcordes> natively installed ubuntu-netbook in it
[20:02] <dcordes> likr 2GB of it
[20:02] <dcordes> like
[20:02] <rsalveti> ok
[20:02] <dcordes> errored on mono
[20:02] <rsalveti> while running it on a native environment?
[20:03] <dcordes> but at a different point than the known qemu one
[20:03] <dcordes> yes.
[20:03] <JamesWstubbs91> Anyone got anymore ideas on my evdev issue before I dissapear into repeated trial and error insomnia ?
[20:03] <rsalveti> dcordes: argh, mono does sucks
[20:04] <dcordes> lol dont
[20:04] <JamesWstubbs91> Ok, thanks anyway
[20:04] <dcordes> write tslib than evdev ml and wait.
[20:04] <rsalveti> dcordes: what distro version are you using? lucid?
[20:04] <rsalveti> dcordes: I can test it here, but please try to see if there are any bugs reported already at launchpad
[20:05] <dcordes> host or target?
[20:05] <rsalveti> dcordes: target
[20:05] <dcordes> target maverick
[20:05] <dcordes> host lucid
[20:05] <rsalveti> ok, mono on maverick may be broken, never tested
[20:05] <dcordes> rootstock latest
[20:06] <rsalveti> I'm just creating a new maverick rootfs, will try to install ubuntu-netbook on it
[20:06] <dcordes> I did same thing before and think err was same
[20:06] <rsalveti> dcordes: what error are you getting?
[20:07] <dcordes> so its not me
[20:07] <dcordes> freeze on
[20:07] <rsalveti> =\
[20:07] <dcordes> installing two foo of bar into mono
[20:08] <dcordes> I noted it
[20:09] <dcordes> but can't loop mount ext2 in wince :>
[20:24] <dyfet> ogra, meant to be here...
[20:34] <dcordes> rsalveti, do you know how to work around such error?
[20:35] <rsalveti> not yet, it's supposed to work when installing it in a native environment, that's why I'm testing it
[20:36] <rsalveti> but the repo just got out of sync, will try again in some minutes
[20:41] <dcordes> cool thanks a bunch my friend
[21:37] <dcordes_> rsalveti, got past mono in your test install yet ?
[21:46] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: what arguments are you using on panda to get the serial output from kernel?
[21:46] <rsalveti> it seems mine is freezing during boot, and I want to get the kernel log to check it
[21:46] <rsalveti> also using an lg monitor, seems the one that lag was also using
[21:47] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: console=ttyO2,115200 console=tty0 for serial console.
[21:47] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: that explains why ttys2 doesn't work :-)
[21:47] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: thanks man
[21:47] <GrueMaster> Is your monitor HDMI?
[21:48] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: yep, hdmi and dvi
[21:48] <GrueMaster> Ok.  I don't have an HDMI monitor, so I have to force the mode.
[21:48] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: the monitor detects the signal only when I'm using the hdmi port with a hdmi->dvi adapter
[21:49] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: oh, ok, so to use the dvi what argument should I use?
[21:49] <GrueMaster> omapdss.debug=1 omapdss.hdmimode=0 omapdss.hdmicode=35
[21:49] <rsalveti> dcordes_: doing it right now, waiting lots of packages to get installed :-)
[21:49] <GrueMaster> The debug part just adds more messages to the log.
[21:49] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: nice
[21:50] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: is there a wiki listing these arguments or something like that? or the source code is the only documentation? :-)
[21:50] <GrueMaster> Yes.  Let me find the link.
[21:50] <dcordes_> rsalveti, I think it took around 3 hours until I arrived tat the mono error starting from ubuntu-minimal
[21:50] <rsalveti> dcordes_: ouch
[21:50] <dcordes_> rsalveti, with 1000MHz cpu clock and ~390MB ram
[21:51] <rsalveti> ok, so ping me in a few hours :-)
[21:51] <dcordes_> rsalveti, my rootfs lives on a class4 uSD it might be the bottleneck
[21:51] <rsalveti> I have one class 6 that GrueMaster gave me, but I always get some weird errors on beagle
[21:52] <rsalveti> so I'm basically using the old c4 too
[21:54] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Bootargs_for_enabling_display
[21:54] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: nice, thanks again
[22:07] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, do I also get a GrueMaster class6 uSD ?
[22:13] <dcordes_> :(
[22:13] <dcordes_> it would certainly be useful investment
[22:13] <dcordes_> some 4 or 8G with class 6
[22:20] <GrueMaster> dcordes_: Sure.  Log in to amazon.com...
[22:21] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: What issues are you seeing with the class 6 I gave you?
[22:22] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, maybe it's 2fast for the beagle so it gets hick ups
[22:22] <dcordes_> ;>
[22:22] <dcordes_> rsalveti, how much space does your maverick take up so far ? (I kept typing 'df -h' during the install)
[22:22]  * dcordes_ is an impatient person
[22:23] <dcordes_> sorry :)
[22:23] <GrueMaster> dcordes_: There is a known issue being worked on in the current kernel for beagle.  Bug 591941.
[22:23] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591941 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "SDHC card not recognized (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 80)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591941
[22:24] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: I got some i/o errors with it, at least on beagle
[22:24] <rsalveti> but don't remember if it was lucid or maverick
[22:24] <GrueMaster> I found that class 4 cards are the only ones that work reliably on beagle at the moment.
[22:24] <rsalveti> I need to test it again
[22:24] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, hmm don't get this wrong but don't you think that's something to discuss upstream with rwhitby and friends ?
[22:24] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, to me it looks malplaced in ubuntu bugtracking system
[22:24] <GrueMaster> dcordes_: Kernel team is already on it.
[22:25] <dcordes_> well ok if you have some mechanisms to pass it upstream..
[22:25] <rsalveti> argh, forgot to watch for the reboot and now my console arguments are gone
[22:25] <dcordes_> then I didn't say it :)
[22:25] <GrueMaster> I report the bugs, others fix them.  :P
[22:25] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, forgot you guys are actually no small community but massive company :)
[22:26] <GrueMaster> Other way around.  Small company, massive community.
[22:26] <GrueMaster> :P
[22:27] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, are you also canonical employee ?
[22:27] <rsalveti> dcordes_: I'm using just one serial, so let's just wait some more :-)
[22:27] <GrueMaster> I'd tell you, but then I'd have to pkill you.   :P
[22:27] <dcordes_> haha
[23:07] <dcordes_> somebody knows how to extract a single filesystem (as file) from a raw device image ?
[23:07] <dcordes_> that has bootstectore multiple partitions etc
[23:07] <dcordes_> the beagle sd images use such raw file
[23:12] <dcordes_> I would just write it to some SD device node but don't have such as I work in remote vm
[23:17] <GrueMaster> Are you talking about mounting a partition from maverick-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img?
[23:22] <GrueMaster> dcordes_: ^^^
[23:22] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, no. meego :D
[23:22] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, but it's same
[23:22] <dcordes_> GrueMaster, some raw image supposed to be copied to sd
[23:22] <GrueMaster> Not familiar with that image, but you should be able to get the start sector with "file <img>
[23:23] <dcordes_>  x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, starthead 1, startsector 32, 3320288 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x83, starthead 3, startsector 3320320, 499968 sectors
[23:25] <GrueMaster> Ok.  Now, say you want to mount partition 2.  sudo mount <img> ./mnt -o loop,offset=$((512*3320320))
[23:25] <GrueMaster> The starting byte offset is what is needed.
[23:25] <GrueMaster> And each sector should be 512 bytes.
[23:37] <GrueMaster> dcordes_: did that work for you?


[08:07] <dholbach> good morning
[18:49] <teward> micahg: ping, if you aren't busy - can you poke at the sync request for the znc package and then follow up with the release team on an FFe?
[18:50] <teward> hate to ask it to get included, but..
[18:50] <teward> (wish it had been before FeatureFreeze)
[18:53] <micahg> teward: unfortunately, my build env is broke at the moment, so I haven't been processing a lot of requests
[18:54] <teward> micahg: ack.  i've got build environments I can loan to it, including my xenial-buildtests PPA and sbuild environments for amd64/i386, but I'm having headaches with regards to Internet speed right now, so those're slow
[18:54] <teward> i'm planning on running PPA builds anyways, 'cause i provide those as a favor to ZNC upstream :p
[18:54]  * teward is currently waiting on the Release Team to address an nginx FFe request for a new upstream version
[18:55] <teward> so the znc sync request is my 'least concern' it's just a 'would like to have before final freezes'
[18:55] <micahg> if it's in the sponsorship queue, I think people have been working to clear that more regularly now
[18:56] <teward> micahg: ah, well, it should be `requestsync` did that