[12:00] <crimsun> rekrutacja: I'm busy atm but will read it in 5 minutes
[12:00] <DUMAiSO> !br
[12:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:00] <unL33Tn00b> Anyone know what an error about direct rendering not being enabled for Boson?  (I think it's kgame related)
[12:00] <bon_> redwolf: it wount let me login
[12:00] <ralpho> anyone get kaffeine to work on xm radio web site
[12:00] <niki> is there an easier way to install GTK+ libraries than doing it from their website?  i keep getting errors when i try to make...
[12:00] <redwolf> bon_: eww
[12:00] <rekrutacja> crimsun, ok will wait
[12:00] <polpak> pulver, you can also try nvu
[12:01] <redwolf> bon_: this shouldn't be this hard, for reference
[12:01] <ATIpro> ubotu, ubuntu-es es una mierda, nadie te hace caso y se la pasan hablando le juegos no les interesa ayudar, vengo de ahi !
[12:01] <ubotu> ATIpro: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:01] <polpak> niki, eh.. I'm pretty sure they're installed already
[12:01] <redwolf> bon_: pastebin your /etc/fstab again
[12:01] <polpak> niki, or are you wanting the developer libreries
[12:01] <unL33Tn00b> !direct rendering
[12:01] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unL33Tn00b
[12:01] <bon_> redwolf: yeah
[12:01] <ATIpro> hello ! somebody can help me  ?
[12:01] <redwolf> bon_: in it's current state
[12:01] <polpak> ATIpro, ubotu is a bot
[12:01] <bon_> redwolf: i had to delte the last line to login
[12:01] <redwolf> bon_: really?
[12:01] <pulver> polpak, yea but would give the tool to someone computer illiterate person and nvu has a lot of options
[12:02] <polpak> ATIpro, if you need help in spanish you'll have to ask in ubuntu-es, or you can ask here, in english
[12:02] <bon_> yeah
[12:02] <redwolf> bon_: the line about the /home/bon?
[12:02] <niki> polpak, i am just trying to get gtuxnes to run, and it requires gtk+ libs...
[12:02] <blacknight> ATIpro, what is the problem?
[12:02] <polpak> niki, what's the error you get?
[12:02] <bon_> yeah
[12:03] <ATIpro> Blacknight my problem is with my video card
[12:03] <redwolf> bon_: wow, I'm impressed
[12:03] <lkdfre> b
[12:03] <niki> polpak, i get a LOT of them when i try to 'make' in the gtuxnes dir
[12:03] <blacknight> ATIpro, ok. What is the problem?
[12:03] <polpak> pulver, I'd recommend building a web framework (using php or somesuch) and just make a nice UI for controlling it with mysql.
[12:03] <redwolf> bon_: umm, try mounting it to a different directory temporarily
[12:03] <redwolf> bon_: like instead of /home/bon, do /bon
[12:03] <unL33Tn00b> Anybody have any clue what "direct Rendering" means (incontext of it not being enabled)?
[12:03] <polpak> pulver, cause computer illiterate people shouldn't be making changes to websites directly
[12:03] <redwolf> change it in /etc/fstab and mkdir /bon
[12:04] <polpak> niki, one sec
[12:04] <bon_> right
[12:04] <redwolf> bon_: if it mounts automatically like that, let me know
[12:04] <ATIpro> I've a ATI X600se and yesterday I was intalled the last driver and when I wanted make a reboot after my pc was died now I can't see someting
[12:04] <pulver> polpak, yes you are probably right
[12:04] <redwolf> bon_: I have an idea
[12:04] <polpak> niki, ok.. the problem is you need the development libs
[12:05] <UsefuLldiot> whats the command again to use apt to update to latest dapper release?
[12:05] <ralpho> got to love ati vesa solution
[12:05] <arrick> how to open a html file from terminal?
[12:05] <tristanmike> !tell UsefuLldiot about upgrade
[12:05] <unL33Tn00b> Anybody have any clue what "direct Rendering" means (incontext of it not being enabled)?
[12:05] <niki> polpak, how do i get these?
[12:05] <bon_> redwolf: /dev/hda5	/bon		ext3 defaults,auto.noatime,rw,user 0 0
[12:05] <polpak> niki, with apt..
[12:06] <polpak> niki, one sec
[12:06] <redwolf> bon_: go for it
[12:06] <ATIpro> that is my problem I want install the correct driver but I tired to read because all the time when I want try i have problems an now i can not see nothing
[12:06] <Blippe> arrick with lynx
[12:06] <LKRaider> arrick: or elinks
[12:06] <arrick> hows that Blippe?
[12:06] <arrick> ok, how
[12:06] <TSCHAK> arrick, lynx file.html
[12:06] <arrick> ok
[12:06] <TSCHAK> arrick, or lynx url
[12:06] <ATIpro> are you there blaknight ?
[12:06] <LKRaider> arrick: apt-get lynx or elinks first
[12:07] <arrick> ok
[12:07] <unL33Tn00b> Anybody played called Boson before?
[12:07] <unL33Tn00b> *game
[12:07] <Blippe> or lynx, wait until the program starts, press g and then type the adress
[12:07] <kbrooks> @ everyone: e-mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:08] <arrick> ok
[12:08] <TSCHAK> kbrooks, that's never a good idea, somebody in here could be a spammer.
[12:08] <polpak> niki, sudo apt-get install build-essential libgtk1.2-dev libgtk2.0-dev
[12:08] <ATIpro> blacknight all the week I was readed the ubuntuforums but I still with problems !
[12:08] <kbrooks> TSCHAK, i always junk away spam mail
[12:08] <TSCHAK> kbrooks, ok
[12:08] <blacknight> ATIpro, which graphics card
[12:08] <blacknight> ATIpro, if you want my attention use my nick - I won't see you otherwise :)
[12:09] <niki> polpak, ok, doing...thanks!
[12:09] <TSCHAK> I'm really confused as to why my nvidia card isn't allowing doublescan modes
[12:09] <unL33Tn00b> Is there a forum for low priority help request such as help with getting a game to work?
[12:09] <LathropWells> i found a nice trick a month ago USE A DISPOSABLE mailing address  like mailinator.com
[12:09] <ralpho> he said X600se ati
[12:09] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, this is it.. or you can try with the game developer's directly
[12:09] <kevin> I have a linux client and a linux server, how do I set the client to log into the server instead of itself?
[12:09] <crimsun> rekrutacja: amixer sset 'PCM' on && amixer sset 'PCM' 28
[12:09] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, we support all things ubutnu, and some that's not
[12:09] <blacknight> ATIpro, what's the issue?
[12:10] <arrick> hey TSCHAK,, how do I rename a folder to see it on the desktop again?
[12:10] <redwolf> bon_: work?
[12:10] <polpak> kevin, what kind of "client"
[12:10] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Alright.  Know anything about Kgames?  Or Boson?  Or what direct rendering (which I need to enable but don't know how) is?
[12:10] <rekrutacja> crimsun, this is too fast for i'm not that advanced. how to set amixer?
[12:10] <ATIpro> ok I have this ! ATI X600 256MG X600SE RADEON
[12:10] <crimsun> rekrutacja: type exactly what I gave you in a Terminal
[12:10] <bon_> redwolf: well it booted
[12:10] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, direct rendering means your video card is doing the display work, not your CPU
[12:11] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, what kind of video card do you have?
[12:11] <redwolf> bon_: can you mount and/or access /bon
[12:11] <rekrutacja> crimsun, done
[12:11] <clever> what do i have to do to get lirc to work on ubuntu?
[12:11] <rekrutacja> crimsun, do i need reboot or something?
[12:11] <crimsun> rekrutacja: no, just play some music or something
[12:11] <nismo> Im trying to move something thats on my desktop to the /root folder, how do i do that?
[12:11] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Thank you.  That makes sense.  Is there a way to fix this so I can play the one game I like?
[12:11] <blacknight> ATIpro, agp or pci?
[12:11] <ATIpro> pci
[12:11] <bon_> redwolf i cant see it
[12:11] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, what kind of video card, and what game?
[12:11] <rekrutacja> crimsun, its working! it's working!
[12:11] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Game says without direct rendering game will run slow.  It wasn't exaggerating (sp)...
[12:12] <dumezil_> is there a way to change the behavior of F10?  whenever i hit it, its like hitting alt-<insert menu hotkey here>...  i have a console app that uses f10, but the terminal is grabbing before it gets to the program
[12:12] <blacknight> ATIpro, have a look at http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/2004/08/07/debian-ati-radeon-9600-se-pci/ it may help (or not)
[12:12] <trappist> unL33Tn00b: what video card
[12:12] <redwolf> bon_: can you see it as root?
[12:12] <rekrutacja> crimsun, thank you
[12:12] <nismo> Im trying to move something thats on my desktop to the /root folder, how do i do that?
[12:12] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, not terribly surprising.. what video card do you have?
[12:12] <kettles> help please. I was directed here from the firefox help channel, because i cant run firefox
[12:12] <arrick> hey everyone, I had a folder on the desktop, and renamed it to hide it with a . before the name, how do I name it back, so i can see it again?
[12:12] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Boson (from Repos <Command and Conquer clone) and I have no idea about video card...
[12:12] <kettles> they said it was a ubuntu poblem
[12:12] <blacknight> arrick, mv .foo foo ?
[12:12] <Sergi0> kettles whats the trouble?
[12:12] <LKRaider> arrick: press CTRL+H, it will show all folders
[12:12] <polpak> arrick, use the terminal and do ls -a to see it
[12:12] <nismo> Im trying to move something thats on my desktop to the /root folder, how do i do that?
[12:12] <rekrutacja> crimsun, is it permanent solution? i mean - what bad happened to me and how to avoid it in a future?
[12:12] <kettles> i would paste the error but it is large
[12:12] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, pastebin the output of lspci
[12:13] <trappist> nismo: you'll need to do that on the command line with 'sudo'
[12:13] <nismo> yea im aware of that
[12:13] <nismo> whats the commnad
[12:13] <grigora> hi, recently I have started experiencing Firefox freezing and becoming unusable very-very frequently, there are no updates available for Firefox and I am just wondering how people are dealing with this issue, because it's a real pain. thanks!
[12:13] <nismo> sudo mv ?
[12:13] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Am new to Linux, was going to try Device Mgr...but I'll use term with what you said.
[12:13] <kettles> i try and run firefox, but when I do i get 4 errors
[12:13] <nismo> grigora does it shutdown on you on certain webpages?
[12:13] <arrick> polpak, how do I rename it again?
[12:13] <kettles> such as locale not supported... and a can not set up locale modifiers
[12:14] <LathropWells> i haven't seen any errors. though i haven't added any extensions, updates or sunjava
[12:14] <grigora> nismo: no, it just stops responding to mouse clicks
[12:14] <Sergi0> kettles paste the error here http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ and drop the link in the irc, we can check the error then
[12:14] <nismo> oh...
[12:14] <arrick> !rename
[12:14] <kettles> ?
[12:14] <unL33Tn00b> polpak If PCMIA Services failed on bootscreen, would that be why?
[12:14] <Sergi0> or ubuntu.pastebin.com :P
[12:14] <kettles> i am new to linux. and IRC
[12:15] <grigora> nismo: and the browser window stop updating, it just freezes
[12:15] <kevin> I currently have a lab of windows clients that log into a linux server with samba, I would like to replace my windows clients with ubuntu, but how do I log an ubuntu client into the server instead of into itself?
[12:15] <crimsun> rekrutacja: some program you used muted the 'PCM' element and set its volume level to 0.
[12:15] <unL33Tn00b> polpak And would 3D RagePro 1x/2x be my vid card?
[12:15] <Sergi0> kettles step 1 openup ubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:15] <nismo> I have similar issues with firefox, although when im on a website, it shutsdown completly
[12:15] <crimsun> rekrutacja: so...don't do that.
[12:15] <LathropWells> welcome kettles :)  (spend some time here and you will be an old pro in no time. )
[12:15] <bon_> redwolf: it says the mount point does not excist
[12:15] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, sounds right
[12:15] <redwolf> bon_: mkdir /bon as root
[12:15] <LKRaider> arrick: press CTRL+H on desktop, it will show you the hidden folders. Rename as usual
[12:15] <kettles> ok
[12:15] <Drac[Server] > What's the easiest way to directly copy the image of one harddrive to another, identical one?
[12:16] <arrick> thanks
[12:16] <nismo> eg, ill be on a site and i click a link, shuts down.... i try to go back to the same site with the same link, same problem
[12:16] <arrick> now it workes
[12:16] <grigora> Drac[Server] : ghost?
[12:16] <niki> polpak, that did it...ty :)
[12:16] <polpak> niki, sure
[12:16] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Still want that pastebin?
[12:16] <Sergi0> kettles do u know how to update your system using synaptic?
[12:16] <bjornkri> hey hey
[12:16] <Drac[Server] > grigora, are you refering to a freely available Ubuntu package?
[12:16] <kettles> ?
[12:16] <kettles> no
[12:16] <grigora> Drac[Server] : there is a free ghost package, I forget what it's called, but you can find it on google
[12:16] <kettles> i pasted the error
[12:16] <kettles> and clicked send
[12:16] <arrick> how do I convert html files to pdf?
[12:16] <rekrutacja> crimsun, mhmmm the obnly programs i use are VLC and totem. VLC in its default configuration requires to set sound off and on again to be heard at all. this happend on two fresh installs of ubuntu on two different laptops, so i think this is a bug...
[12:17] <bon_> redwolf: it says bad fs bla bla
[12:17] <nismo> .... What is the command for moving one file to the /root folder????
[12:17] <Sergi0> kettles whats the url for the pastebin? so i can look
[12:17] <redwolf> bon_: wow
[12:17] <zerokarmaleft> Drac[Server] : you should be able to use dd w/o a hitch if the drives are identical
[12:17] <redwolf> bon_: just, wow
[12:17] <kettles> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/629797
[12:17] <crimsun> rekrutacja: that's not a vlc bug nor an alsa bug
[12:17] <redwolf> bon_: are you sure it's ext3 again?
[12:17] <ds[de] > nismo; sudo mv *file* /folder
[12:17] <grigora> Drac[Server] : Ghost4Linux - http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[12:17] <nismo> k
[12:17] <nismo> thnx
[12:17] <Drac[Server] > zerokarmaleft, really? Alright. The drive isn't clean, though.
[12:17] <Sergi0> kettles ok, hang on
[12:17] <LathropWells> http://www.partimage.org/ disk imaging (free) never really got this to work as smoothly as commercial apps
[12:17] <Drac[Server] > grigora, I'd prefer an option that can be taken from a Live CD. I know gparted can't do it. I can only afford to install a couple things on a Live CD session.
[12:17] <kevin> polpak, sorry didn't see you had answered me, my client is ubuntu, my server is mandrake,
[12:18] <bjornkri> I'm trying to figure out a way to manage my network drives. Fstab is out of the question as I'm using a laptop and so any unavailable drives (depending on where in the world I am) will cause a massive hang... Any quick way to switch or manage those drive mounts without too much hassle?
[12:18] <unL33Tn00b> polpak http://pastebin.com/629800 is the output for lspic.
[12:18] <kettles> wait
[12:18] <bon_> redwolf: http://pastebin.com/629802
[12:18] <Cyorxamp> I am trying to work out why I have no ttyUSB0 - can anyone help me?
[12:18] <Drac[Server] > zerokarmaleft, will I need to format the drive somehow, first?
[12:18] <Sergi0> mha where did you get firefox? you downloaded yourself?
[12:18] <rekrutacja> crimsun, so what kind of bug it mat be? ubuntu configuration for laptops?
[12:18] <kettles> it didnot paste it all
[12:18] <kettles> here it is
[12:18] <kettles> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/629803
[12:18] <TheFaction20> whats up guys
[12:19] <unL33Tn00b> :waves to TheFaction20
[12:19] <bon_> redwolf defnetly
[12:19] <Drac[Server] > dd it is. I'll find out on my own.
[12:19] <redwolf> bon_: doh, k, try this
[12:19] <bon_> redwolf : defnetly
[12:19] <wd3> how can i make my gnome terminal transparent or change background color?
[12:19] <redwolf> bon_: mount -t auto /dev/hda5 /bon
[12:19] <kettles> you still there?
[12:20] <Cyorxamp> I am trying to work out why I have no ttyUSB0 - can anyone help me?
[12:20] <LathropWells> wd3 - take a look at the "profiles" option.
[12:20] <possie> i'm trying to install mythtv via ubuntu package, but this package tries to create a user mythtv, but i allready have this user on my system so the package installation exists, is there a way to prevent this script from quiting?
[12:20] <unL33Tn00b> polpak ??
[12:20] <wd3> LathropWells, thanks
[12:21] <zerokarmaleft> Drac[Server] : not if you copy from one raw partition to another raw partition
[12:21] <TheFaction20> wat command do i use to see what hardware i have detected?
[12:21] <wd3> LathropWells, look at this...http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=4764345284356d18fe5188&p=screen
[12:22] <Sergi0> kettles what version u trying from firefox? where did you download it?
[12:22] <arrick> how do I convert html files to pdf?
[12:22] <zerokarmaleft> TheFaction20: lspci
[12:22] <bjornkri> I'm trying to figure out a way to manage my network drives. Fstab is out of the question as I'm using a laptop and so any unavailable drives (depending on where in the world I am) will cause a massive hang... Any quick way to switch or manage those drive mounts without too much hassle? Am I really the only one who has to deal with this? :P
[12:23] <Cyorxamp> I am trying to work out why I have no ttyUSB0 - can anyone help me?
[12:23] <Sergi0> bjornkri why not fstab? just dont use automount, and mount it when u need one of them
[12:23] <redwolf> Cyroxamp: for a palm?
[12:23] <matute> hi all
[12:23] <Sergi0> kettles -> what version u trying from firefox? where did you download it?
[12:23] <unL33Tn00b> How do I enable direct rendering?
[12:23] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, sorry, was on the phone
[12:24] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, what video card did you say?
[12:24] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Ahh, no worries.  Sorry for the impatience. ;)
[12:24] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, ah, I see the pastebin.. one sec
[12:24] <bjornkri> Sergi0: .... oh. Well I must have misunderstood how fstab works, I'll try again. Thanks
[12:24] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Errr...ummm...Oh!  #D ragepro 1x/2x?
[12:24] <unL33Tn00b> polpak 3D, arther
[12:24] <Sergi0> bjornkri no probs, good luck
[12:25] <trappist> bjornkri: you can use the _netdev option in fstab to skip those mounts if the network is unavailable
[12:25] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Sorry, can't type...need more coffee. ;)'
[12:25] <LathropWells> wd3 - nice looking desktop. that is torsmo for the transparent ram/cpu montor and is it gdesklets for the menus?
[12:25] <redwolf> bon_: I'm starting to run thin on this one...I have to go soon
[12:26] <LKRaider> arrick: try the cups-pdf printer (avaiable in synaptic). You can print anything to pdf then
[12:26] <trappist> arrick: sudo apt-get install htmldoc && man htmldoc
[12:26] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, sad news.. That video card doesn't have 3d drivers from ATI for linux.
[12:26] <schloob> hi, i'm trying to set $PS1 for my terminal, it's working fine so far, but when output from programs doesnt and in a newline, the prompt like displays once, then carriage returns, then displays again.
[12:26] <grigora> nismo: one of the sites that cause the freeze is ft.com, every time the site refreshes itself, the browser become unresponsive for 10-15 seconds
[12:26] <wd3> LathropWells, i just installed fluxbox and playing around with it, any suggestings?
[12:26] <unL33Tn00b> polpak So, in n00b term, get a new card?
[12:26] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, yep
[12:26] <harisund> hello everyone, my Ubuntu (Gnome) is running real slow, I was wondering whether I could disable animations (such as those when minimizing windows)
[12:26] <arrick> I want to save the html as a pdf, LKRaider , trappist not print it
[12:27] <LathropWells> wd3 - no, nice light and fast :)
[12:27] <arrick> oh I forgot, makes me think I'm stupid now
[12:27] <unL33Tn00b> polpak.  Gotcha.  As far as I know, the one I have is a PoS anyway.  And it was free.  No worries and thanks for the help.
[12:27] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, If you want to go with ATI, you'll need a radeon  in the 9xxx series
[12:27] <LKRaider> arrick: then try htmldoc as trappist suggested
[12:27] <trappist> arrick: LKRaider's suggestion was a good one.  the cups pdf printer creates pdfs, it doesn't print.  mine was also good, as it also creates pdfs.
[12:27] <haha> hey i need to be able to print from one of my computers to a windows computer . how do i do it?
[12:27] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, otherwise Nvidia is a good choice
[12:27] <unL33Tn00b> polpak I'm supposed to go get a book for learning Linux....Something about 21 days....Do you know the title?
[12:27] <haha> hey i need to be able to print from one of my computers to a windows computer . how do i do it?
[12:28] <unL33Tn00b> polpak It's by O'reilly
[12:28] <bon__> redwolf: sorry power cards aaahhhh
[12:28] <bimberi> haha: XP?
[12:28] <haha> eys
[12:28] <haha> yes**
[12:28] <redwolf> bon__: hmm
[12:28] <bimberi> !tell haha about xpprint
[12:28] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, I couldn't really recommend anything.. It depends on what you're wanting to learn
[12:28] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, there is a lot of info online too
[12:28] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Linix for Morons.....
[12:28] <redwolf> bon__: well, I think you have some kind of problem with that partition
[12:28] <axl000> how can i play xvid, divx, mp3 without automatix in dapper?
[12:29] <Drac[Server] > zerokarmaleft, OH. Didn't see that part. Um.... Yeah. I need to copy the master boot record and stuff... What other ways can I do this?
[12:29] <unL33Tn00b> polpak I was going to see if I could find an ebook, but...
[12:29] <redwolf> bon__: unfortunately, I have to go
[12:29] <redwolf> bon__: sorry I couldn't help you more
[12:29] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, oh.. Well for the most basic stuff I'd just suggest trying things out and if you run into problems search the forums, or ask in here
[12:29] <wd3> LathropWells, thanks it is :)    i know gnome term can do it, someone just sent me this.......http://errr-online.com/pics/2006-03-29-162338_1024x768_scrot.png
[12:29] <arrick> trappist, after i get the stuff you said to get, what should I do next?
[12:29] <polpak> unL33Tn00b, the best way to learn is by doing
[12:29] <bon__> redwolf : thanks for your help i wish i could give you a beer or something
[12:29] <unL33Tn00b> polpak Ok, thank you! ;)
[12:29] <redwolf> bon__: np, cya later
[12:30] <harm> unl33Tn00b ... if u managed to get here everything will be alright
[12:30] <bon__> redwolf : but they dont fit down telephone lines
[12:30] <trappist> arrick: man htmldoc
[12:30] <arrick> ok
[12:30] <arrick> thanks
[12:30] <unL33Tn00b> harm I know.  This is the single most useful thing I've found for linux.  After RTFM, that is...
[12:31] <haha> it doesnt work
[12:31] <Hollowman8904> can someone help me get TightVNC working?  its giving me errors about fonts
[12:31] <unL33Tn00b> Later guys.  Thanks for the help! ;)
[12:31] <haha> hwo do i get it to work?
[12:31] <guest> Hello
[12:32] <harm> well yah but i mean manuals are sometimes unclear
[12:32] <guest> I'm new to Ubuntu.
[12:32] <haha> how do u get it to work?
[12:32] <TheFaction20> guest:welcom
[12:32] <TheFaction20> e
[12:32] <guest> I have not recieved an administration name/password.
[12:32] <zerokarmaleft> Drac[Server] : you can copy the mbr with dd to a specific file if you specify the block size and how many blocks to copy
[12:32] <guest> Thank you.
[12:32] <sfar> guest, its the password for the first created user
[12:32] <haha> dude
[12:32] <haha> i need help
[12:32] <harm> :)
[12:32] <guest> Well, I'm trying to install Wine.
[12:33] <zerokarmaleft> Drac[Server] : e.g. dd if=/dev/foo bs=512 count=1 > /tmp/mbr.bin
[12:33] <harm> guest i have just installed wine
[12:33] <guest> However, the console is prohibiting.
[12:33] <guest> Did you?!!
[12:33] <harm> yah
[12:33] <guest> Ha!
[12:33] <Hollowman8904> in tightvnc, i get the error:
[12:33] <Hollowman8904> Fatal server error:
[12:33] <Hollowman8904> could not open default font 'fixed'
[12:33] <harm> its slow as hell
[12:33] <guest> Is it??!!
[12:33] <guest> Hmm...
[12:33] <harm> well the downloda :P
[12:33] <haha> i need to print on my netowork
[12:33] <harm> download
[12:33] <polpak> guest, he means the downloading is slow
[12:33] <haha> how do i do it
[12:33] <guest> Ahhh.....
[12:33] <sfar> use "sudo" before the actual command.. "sudo command here"
[12:33] <polpak> guest, because a new version just came out
[12:33] <guest> After the download, what did you do?
[12:34] <harm> well i did apt-get install... so it installed
[12:34] <haha> i did sudo
[12:34] <harm> and worked
[12:34] <polpak> guest, just sudo apt-get install wine
[12:34] <guest> Yes. I thought so...Linux won't let me...
[12:34] <polpak> guest, when it asks for a password, just type yours in
[12:34] <harm> you probally have to restart the download cuz mine timed-out
[12:34] <guest> let me try again...
[12:34] <polpak> guest, it won't show anything on the screen, but it still types
[12:34] <bon__> redwolf: it worked :)
[12:35] <haha> im getting sick of ubuntu!!
[12:35] <harm> guest just keep doing apt-get install till its at 100% and installed
[12:35] <zerokarmaleft> Drac[Server] : though if the disk has a complicated partition setup, then backing up with dd will get complicated also
[12:35] <harm> haha why is that?
[12:35] <nosilver4u> hey, where do i report bugs?
[12:35] <guest> I don't know...
[12:35] <jadams> does anyone know of a tool in the repositories that will allow one to easily create panoramas?
[12:35] <polpak> nosilver4u, bugs in?
[12:35] <haha> i need to print wierlessly on my network
[12:35] <guest> Let me tell you the message...
[12:35] <haha> and i dont know how
[12:35] <harm> haha ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:35] <nosilver4u> it's an issue with the unmount dialog (when ejecting a cd)
[12:35] <arrick> trappist, does htmldoc have a gui interface?
[12:36] <haha> im using ubuntu
[12:36] <guest> This is what Ubuntu returns: deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[12:36] <guest> No wroing text....
[12:36] <guest> This is the message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:36] <harm> guest did u add the URL thingy to your sources?
[12:36] <bimberi> haha: have you shared the printer on XP?
[12:36] <haha> eys
[12:36] <haha> yes**
[12:36] <sfar> guest, do you have synaptics running?
[12:36] <guest> Yes. Repositories?
[12:36] <bimberi> haha: what sort of printer, does ubuntu have drivers?
[12:36] <guest> Yes.
[12:36] <guest> Do I have to close synaptics first?
[12:37] <sfar> close synaptic and try again
[12:37] <harm> guest u can only use synaptics OR consule :P
[12:37] <haha> it installed my hp printer
[12:37] <haha> i think it does have the drivers
[12:37] <arrick> trappist, I am trying to convert Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition html file to pdf, that way I can make it available again cause all the pdf links to it are broken
[12:37] <spine> i have a problem with y dual screen setup, i run at 2048x768 and xine makes everything a 8:3 ratio instead of 4:3, i heard there was a way for for xinerama t resolve this issue
[12:37] <guest> Same problem....
[12:37] <spine> really
[12:37] <spine> wow
[12:37] <polpak> !enter
[12:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:38] <haha> its an hp deskjet 882c
[12:38] <trappist> arrick: I just do this: print to file in firefox then use ps2pdf
[12:38] <arrick> ok
[12:38] <guest> Still returned:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:38] <polpak> haha, please address your responses to the person(s) helping you. it avoids confusion, and makes it easier for them to see your posts
[12:38] <sfar> spine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles
[12:38] <harm> guest http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb <-- try that and use the APT-GET guide
[12:38] <guest> Yes, Polpak...
[12:39] <guest> yes...
[12:39] <spine> sfar, god bless
[12:39] <LKRaider> arrick: I would use cups-pdf, it doesn't need the extra terminal step of ps2pdf
[12:39] <harm> guest you have that in front of you?
[12:39] <haha> bimberi: i have a deskjet 882c
[12:39] <arrick> ok
[12:39] <kevin> instead of creating individual user accounts on linux clients, I want to be able to log into the user accounts on my linux server, how can I do this with Ubuntu? Thanks
[12:39] <arrick> I didnt want to configure cups
[12:39] <guest> hars: that was what I was using.
[12:39] <LKRaider> arrick: it's quite simple tho
[12:39] <polpak> kevin, ssh user@server
[12:39] <guest> Is it harm?
[12:40] <trappist> arrick: if this is a one-shot deal use firefox + ps2pdf.  if you're going to need to do a lot of it, use the cups solution.
[12:40] <bimberi> haha: yes, there are drivers for that.  Hmm i'm not sure what's wrong then
[12:40] <polpak> kevin, your question isn't terribly clear, sorry
[12:40] <arrick> ok
[12:40] <harm> guest i used that site 30minutes ago to set up wine
[12:40] <haha> bimberi: i installed it but now i need to print wirelessly on my XP
[12:40] <polpak> bimberi, it may be because it's a samba printer, and not directly connected?
[12:40] <michoelc> hi guys. i have another q. i was looking on the internet and I see its a known prob. but i couldnt find clear instructions to fix it. when i put in my usb flash drive and try and mount it it says "given UDI is not a mountable volume". tia.
[12:40] <guest> harm I bet you did. I am quite confused...
[12:41] <polpak> haha, is the printer plugged into your linux computer, or the XP one?
[12:41] <harm> guest .. ah ok let me message you
[12:41] <haha> polpak:it is not directly connected
[12:41] <guest> harm I'm able to download it and everything....
[12:41] <arrick> LKRaider, trappist it only does the main index page, how do I get it to do the whole thing?
[12:41] <guest> Harm, ok
[12:41] <haha> polpack: XP
[12:41] <sfar> guest, close everything but IRC and the terminal
[12:41] <bimberi> polpak: yes, although i thought samba handled that :/
[12:41] <guest> sfar yes
[12:41] <trappist> arrick: oh it's not all one page?
[12:41] <sfar> and try again.. you can try "ps aux | grep synaptic" to list any process with the name *synaptic*
[12:42] <arrick> the main page is all hyperlinks, its a whole book.
[12:42] <sfar> or wait, just do "killall synaptic" and try again :)
[12:42] <arrick> brb
[12:42] <harm> sorry guest :p wrong minimize button
[12:42] <guest> sfar yes
[12:42] <trappist> arrick: you need to use htmldoc then
[12:42] <LKRaider> arrick: you have several files? this is more advanced then... the terminal solution might work, but you will probably have to study the htmldoc manual
[12:42] <sfar> and "killall apt", and "killall dpkg"
[12:43] <kevin> polpak, sorry, I want to be able to do domain logins to a linux server like I can with a Windows domain logon. I don't want to first log into my linux client, then ssh to my linux server. When I log into gnome, I want it to authenticate with the linux server and load my home directory from the server etc.
[12:43] <harm> guest in consule enter this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:43] <guest> sfar, for all 3 instance it returned: (no process killed)
[12:43] <guest> harm, did so.
[12:43] <harm> guest make sure u have these two lines at the bottom or somewhere else WITHOUT a # before it
[12:43] <harm> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[12:43] <harm>  deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[12:44] <TSCHAK> kevin, there are several ways to do it, no definitive approach
[12:44] <sfar> guest, that's strange.. actually you are the second person today with that problem.. im clueless.. try rebooting
[12:44] <harm> guest then SAVE and close gedit
[12:44] <sfar> harm, that's not his problem right now tho
[12:44] <TheFaction20> have any of you managed to boot off of an external with windows on an internal?
[12:44] <harm> o ok :P well just cecking
[12:44] <TSCHAK> kevin, simplest is to use NIS To provide your passwd and group files to your linux workstations, then mount your home directories via NFS
[12:44] <Sergi0> guest : did u use sudo? like this : 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:44] <sfar> :)
[12:44] <guest> harm, I think you did it!!
[12:44] <bon__> how would i go about adding my new partion to /home it is curently mounted on /bon - my fstab ---> http://pastebin.com/629860
[12:44] <TSCHAK> kevin, but I've also used LDAP to replicate password and group information.
[12:44] <harm> guest its the small things that mess things up :P
[12:45] <guest> harm, ha ha I think it's installing!!
[12:45] <sfar> that is just weird
[12:45] <guest> harm, I am the problem. I am so use to Windows/DOS! Ha!
[12:45] <harm> guest it will fail a couple of times cuz a lot of people are getting the new version
[12:45] <guest> harm, I see
[12:46] <harm> guest iam not great with linux ether.. just rtfm carefully
[12:46] <TheFaction20> harm:people are getting dapper?
[12:46] <TSCHAK> i am using it
[12:46] <harm> uh?
[12:46] <TheFaction20> harm:i thought that doesnt come out til june
[12:46] <TSCHAK> TheFaction20, the release doesn't
[12:46] <kevin> TSCHAK, thanks, will those allow me to log into the server without creating a bunch of local client accounts? I will look at those, I tried googling before, but obviuosly wasn't using the right search terms ;)
[12:46] <harm> thefaction20 i didnt say anything about dapper
[12:46] <arrick> ok thanks, gotta go for now
[12:46] <TSCHAK> TheFaction20, but you can get testing versions.
[12:46] <TheFaction20> tschak:thanks
[12:46] <TSCHAK> kevin, correct.
[12:46] <michoelc> sorry for asking again, but could anyone help me. when i try mount myusb flash drive there is an error: "given UDI is not a mountable volume".
[12:47] <kevin> TSCHAK, thanks muchly :)
[12:47] <TSCHAK> kevin, np
[12:47] <TheFaction20> michoelc what kind is it?
[12:47] <JLiquorish> where can i find a kvm that works with linux?
[12:47] <arrick> where do I get ps2pdf from if I want it?
[12:47] <harm> whats a good bittorent client... not java based (azeraus)
[12:47] <michoelc> TheFaction20: the brand is called sahara
[12:48] <spine>  "Writing in C or C++ is like running a chain saw with all the safety  guards removed." -Bob Gra
[12:48] <spine> this iso funny i had to post it
[12:48] <arrick> where do I get ps2pdf from if I want it? trappist
[12:48] <panzer> configure: error: --with-readline=yes (default) and headers/libs are not available
[12:48] <panzer>  what do it?
[12:48] <trappist> arrick: apt-cache search ps2pdf
[12:49] <arrick> thanks
[12:49] <polpak> kevin, ah.. you just want smart terminals or something
[12:50] <TSCHAK> kevin, you can also go the terminal server route,very easily
[12:50] <arrick> ok later all
[12:50] <TSCHAK> kevin, in the last year, i've installed several NX installations, with an average of 100 people using each from a central server.
[12:51] <TSCHAK> (the largest NX terminal server i've built thus far is a dual dual-core opteron, 2.2ghz a piece, with 4G of ram)
[12:51] <TSCHAK> running FreeNX
[12:51] <gabbah> anyone had problems with mouse config using driver/protocol "evdev" causing gnome-settings-daemon to crash?
[12:51] <kevin> so all the software runs off server and not client?
[12:52] <polpak> kevin, yes, except you have to run an X server on the client
[12:53] <polpak> kevin, it doesn't work for 3d graphic accellerated stuff, but everything else works good
[12:53] <hyphenated> can they be set up with failover servers, or if the main terminal server dies, is everybody screwed?
[12:53] <Skinux> TSCHAK: sorry to interrupt ... this a great discussion and I've been wanting to try a terminal server for a while. How does it differ from ltsp?
[12:54] <TSCHAK> Skinux, well, LTSP can be retrofitted to use NX
[12:54] <TSCHAK> Skinux, but basically if you use LTSP straight, you're doing raw X over the network
[12:54] <kevin> polpak, not that I need to right now, but if I wanted to run a 3d program etc later on, would I be able to run it off the client, but everything else off the server?
[12:55] <Skinux> TSCHAK, thx!
[12:55] <TSCHAK> Skinux, which is great. but if you have clients like i do who have roaming laptops, and many different platforms, NX is a much better win...
[12:55] <polpak> kevin, sure
[12:55] <canllait1> Heya, is there anywhere you can get latest Gnome packages for breezy, like you can get the latest KDE?
[12:55] <TSCHAK> Skinux, because the nxclient is easy to install
[12:55] <holobyted> do Marvell PHY LAN chips work on Linux?
[12:55] <TSCHAK> Skinux, but you also get the advantage of NX compression, which is fucking phenomenal .
[12:55] <canllait1> nxagent also makes a damn nice Xnest replacement, as you can resize the window
[12:55] <TheFaction20> what is the command that contains tail and -f?
[12:56] <TSCHAK> Skinux, and all my NX installations can be accessed by my clients from their homes or wherever, wrapped in a nice SSH and SSL connection.
[12:56] <TheFaction20> and it gives message of what is connected
[12:56] <TheFaction20> like external usb drives?
[12:56] <polpak> TheFaction20, tail -f /path/to/log/file
[12:56] <Skinux> TSCHAK: It's just a home network science experient, so I will give it a shot. Is the learning curve real steep?
[12:56] <kevin> polpak, would I need to log into the local client to use the 3d accelerated program? Or still use terminal login?
[12:56] <TSCHAK> Skinux, no.
[12:56] <haha> polpak,the Xp one
[12:56] <Sergi0> TSCHAK u got any good url / info for that NX?
[12:56] <bimberi> !freenx
[12:56] <ubotu> methinks freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[12:57] <TSCHAK> Skinux, freenx is by default set up to do authentication by pam
[12:57] <Falstius> TheFaction20:  sudo tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[12:57] <TSCHAK> ubotu, correct.
[12:57] <ubotu> TSCHAK: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:57] <TheFaction20> Falstius:thats the one thank you
[12:57] <illusions> hi all
[12:57] <haha> polpak,the XP one
[12:57] <TSCHAK> Skinux, Sergi0 also, you can get the NX client from http://www.nomachine.com/
[12:57] <TSCHAK> nomachine also sells commercial NX servers
[12:57] <polpak> kevin, you'll need to "log in" to the local client regardless.. It can however just log into a generic account that starts X and then connects to the server computer
[12:57] <TSCHAK> which are MUCH better than freenx in terms of maintainability
[12:58] <haha> polpak, the XP one
[12:58] <TheFaction20> what i find funny is how i had a wd external...wouldnt stay visible
[12:58] <canllait1> So, are there any packages of Gnome 2.14 for breezy anywhere? :)
[12:58] <TheFaction20> but i get a maxtor and works fine
[12:59] <themachine> I have created a ciphering algorithm. Where should I look to make it perfectly open source and free?
[12:59] <Sergi0> TSCHAK is this the same system like X -query hostname ?
[12:59] <kevin> polpak, thanks for your help
[12:59] <haha> polpak, THE XP ONE!!
[12:59] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, NX is basically a highly compressed and predictive X protocol
[12:59] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, wrapped in SSL and then SSH
[12:59] <kevin> TSCHAK thanks for your help too! :)
[12:59] <themachine> in other words, where should I start?
[12:59] <spine> can someone tell me how to change xines display size from 800:600 to 800x300 to correct the 8:3 ratio bug in xine readin from xdpyinfo
[12:59] <MacSlow> I have this for m root-partition - (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:00] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, it uses extensive domain-specific knowledge about X to compress an X event stream by as much as 90%
[01:00] <MacSlow> and now I cannot sumbit any HTML-form in firefox anymore
[01:00] <Sergi0> TSCHAK, thanks, would it be a try with edubuntu and NX
[01:00] <MacSlow> what  in the world is wront with that?
[01:00] <ghosty> i new to ubuntu is there anyway to nmap and other various network tools??? i have tryed apt-get install nmap and it says it not there.
[01:00] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, therefore it can be run over very slow links with excellent perforamnce even over cell phone links (I know, ive done it)
[01:00] <polpak> haha, the XP one what?
[01:00] <haha> polpak, the printere plugged into
[01:00] <ds[de] > !info nmap
[01:01] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[01:01] <haha> printer**
[01:01] <soop> !info repositories
[01:01] <polpak> haha, I don't use XP, so I don't know how to configure it to share the printer. I was just trying to clarify for the other person who was helping you
[01:01] <soop> damn
[01:01] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, well, the qualifications with NX are as follows (1) do you need remote access? (2) are your students bringing in their own laptops and do they need to use windows/mac os x too? ... if one or both questions are YES, then NX is the clear win.
[01:01] <Sergi0> TSCHAK, great, ill get a deeper look soon
[01:01] <soop> ghosty: you need to add your repositories
[01:01] <haha> UBUNTU IS getting on my NERVes!!!
[01:01] <haha> i think im going back to windows!!
[01:01] <ghosty> snoop is that under the app programs ?
[01:01] <TSCHAK> haha, what problems are you having??
[01:02] <ghosty> soop^
[01:02] <spine> or how to add an apsect ratio of 4:1.5 to xine?
[01:02] <themachine> but windows has more errors
[01:02] <polpak> !tell haha about patience
[01:02] <haha> TSHAK,i need to print files throught my network
[01:03] <themachine> how would I declare my software perfectly open source and free?
[01:03] <soop> haha: how so?
[01:03] <Skinux> haha, do you have the printer connected to a PC or directly into the network?
[01:03] <soop> ghosty: yes?
[01:03] <haha> to a pc
[01:03] <haha> thats on my network
[01:03] <ghosty> soop how do i update repositories
[01:03] <soop> ghosty. oh know you need to edit /etc/source/sources.list and uncomment the deb lines, google ubuntu and repositories howto
[01:04] <soop> sec i'll find a url for you
[01:04] <Skinux> haha, is the pc that you want to print to Linux or Windows?
[01:04] <haha> windows
[01:04] <Skinux> haha, give me a sec
[01:04] <ghosty> thanks soop
[01:04] <haha> skinux,thax
[01:04] <haha> thanx**
[01:04] <TSCHAK> I'm so used to printing on CUPS
[01:05] <TSCHAK> i have a network of Linux and OS X machines
[01:05] <TSCHAK> and printing JUST WORKS
[01:05] <TSCHAK> zero config
[01:05] <haha> lucky
[01:05] <TSCHAK> and then I go back to windows and i'm like...this is the most brain dead printing system ever made.
[01:05] <TSCHAK> it always has been
[01:05] <haha> i might switch to mac
[01:05] <Skinux> haha, let's see if I can do it --- r u trying with SMB?
[01:05] <TSCHAK> haha, not really lucky.. it's a design of the CUPS printing system
[01:06] <haha> samba?
[01:06] <haha> i think so skinux
[01:06] <TSCHAK> haha, if you have your CUPS server set up to broadcast which printers it has, all your other machines see the printers, and can talk to them without any configuration (the server does all the translation from postscript to the appropriate printer code)
[01:07] <YogSothoth> Hi
[01:07] <illusions> tschak could he get cups for ubuntu?
[01:07] <TSCHAK> illusions, ubuntu comes installed with cups
[01:07] <haha> how do u get cups?
[01:07] <soop> ghosty: www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:07] <illusions> well there ya go :P lol
[01:07] <TSCHAK> it's the default printer subsystem in every linux distribution i've known since 2001.
[01:08] <TSCHAK> and I was installing it to replace lpd on unix and linux even before then.
[01:08] <axl000> how can i know my actual cpu frequency and temperature???
[01:08] <haha> where do  i find CUPS?
[01:08] <illusions> hell i have no clue its my first day/hour on ubntu
[01:08] <YogSothoth> Is that possible to encode video to a H.264 format, preferably with a using a open source container and codec, and play this video embedded in my web page on all major platforms (linux/windows/macos) ?
[01:08] <TSCHAK> haha, go to System->Administration->Printing
[01:08] <ghosty> soop: just been looking for sources.list but its not on my system :( just tryed find sources.list
[01:09] <fiendskull9> how do i know which IP address to forward a port too on my router?
[01:09] <fiendskull9> is there a command
[01:09] <haha> ok i did
[01:09] <illusions> heck i think i had this installed for only 30mins i am a ubuntu noob
[01:09] <YogSothoth> And I forget : playable with a buffering (i mean, without waiting for the full video to be downloaded)
[01:09] <Hollowman8904> i have all of my MP3s on a remote computer... I cant seem to let a media program access them
[01:09] <ds[de] > ghosty; did you check /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:09] <TSCHAK> haha, try adding your printer there
[01:10] <ghosty> ds[de] : will check there, but find did not pick it up
[01:10] <fiendskull9> Is there a command to know what IP suffix to use for port forwarding?
[01:10] <haha> ok it asks me for the host
[01:10] <fiendskull9> !IP
[01:10] <ubotu> fiendskull9: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:10] <Hollowman8904> can someone help me play my mp3s from a networked computer
[01:11] <ghosty> ds[de] @ yes it is there, thanks
[01:11] <fiendskull9> !Port
[01:11] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[01:11] <fiendskull9> !ports
[01:11] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[01:11] <TSCHAK> haha, put the name of your windows PC
[01:11] <Hollowman8904> somehow mount the share so that this box thinks its a local drive
[01:11] <axl000> how can i know my actual cpu frequency and temperature???
[01:11] <TSCHAK> haha, the network name you gave it
[01:11] <TSCHAK> haha, if your machine is properly scanning, it may appear in the drop down list
[01:11] <JLiquorish> anyone know a good kvm that will work with ubuntu and suse?
[01:11] <ds[de] > haha you really should change your name, every time someone is adressing you I'm trying to find out what's so funny ;)
[01:11] <phlaegel> Do I need netatalk to share files/printers with OSX?
[01:11] <TSCHAK> phlaegel, no
[01:12] <TSCHAK> phlaegel, OS X uses CUPS
[01:12] <haha> ok
[01:12] <TSCHAK> phlaegel, so if you have your printer set up on your linux machine, and it's set to broadcast....
[01:12] <TSCHAK> phlaegel, your OS X machine will simply detect the printer
[01:12] <kyncani> axl000: cpu freq -> cpufrequtils
[01:12] <Hollowman8904> how can i mount a network share into my /media folder
[01:13] <Hollowman8904> so that the computer thinks its local
[01:13] <phlaegel> that's what I thought... but my printen only shows up on other linux boxes, not osx
[01:13] <UncleD> I'm running breezy. How do i switch my source temporarily to dapper drake?
[01:13] <TSCHAK> phlaegel, i can't remember if you have to turn on file/printer sharing in the sharing panel or not.. i've got like 50 billion things on my mind :-)
[01:13] <UncleD> dapper i mean
[01:13] <seraphim> temporarily?
[01:13] <TSCHAK> you really don't wanna do that, UncleD....
[01:13] <UncleD> Im only grabbing a single item
[01:13] <TSCHAK> UncleD, that is a recipe for certain destruction
[01:14] <phlaegel> TSCHAK: good to know it should work though... thanks
[01:14] <niki> my web browser appears to be running waaaay slow, especially compared to the speed my browser runs on my windows machine...is there something i can do to speed this up?
[01:14] <kyncani> UncleD: could not find the item in backports ?
[01:14] <TSCHAK> UncleD, you might as well switch repos and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:14] <UncleD> and switch from breezy to dapper?
[01:14] <MartinRandau> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[01:14] <MartinRandau>  - Can someone help me with this?
[01:14] <TSCHAK> UncleD, yup
[01:14] <UncleD> tschak, how likely is doing that to break stuff?
[01:15] <laffer-pt> hi.. can anyone tell me how do I know the firmware of my modem-router?
[01:15] <TheFaction20> hey guys...everything seems to work fine with the exception of my speakers
[01:15] <Draconicus> I need a way to directly copy the exact image of one harddrive to another. The drives are identical.
[01:15] <Skinux> haha, still there?
[01:15] <TSCHAK> UncleD, .... there's always a chance.. dapper changes rapidly, i get update requests at least once a day
[01:15] <zorba64> UncleD: try it and find out...you know you get to keep both pieces when it breaks
[01:15] <haha> yup
[01:15] <kyncani> Drac[Server] : dd ? partimage ?
[01:15] <Draconicus> TheFaction20, it is possible that your sound card is not supported.
[01:16] <TheFaction20> draconicus
[01:16] <TheFaction20> woops
[01:16] <Skinux> haha, sorry ... have to reboot the windows box
[01:16] <Draconicus> kyncani, again, the EXACT IMAGE, not a partition.
[01:16] <TheFaction20> draconicus:its creative
[01:16] <TSCHAK> UncleD, but I run dapper on both my home machine, and my work laptop, and it seems to run fine.
[01:16] <UncleD> TSCHAK: ah.
[01:16] <kyncani> Draconicus: dd.
[01:16] <haha> skinux , what?
[01:16] <SoapBath> Hey
[01:16] <UncleD> TSCHAK: how much of a download is the upgrade?
[01:16] <Skinux> haha, reboot MY windows box ... I use jetdirect
[01:17] <SoapBath> How do I upgrade from Hedgehog to Breezy? (I am a newbie)
[01:17] <Skinux> haha, most of the time!
[01:17] <TSCHAK> UncleD, don't know.. I'm gonna guess about 400 megs worth of stuff. I installed dapper from CD
[01:17] <Draconicus> kyncani, how, exactly? I need to copy the master boot record and such... I've looked over the dd manual, and I've still had no success. Mind helping me out?
[01:17] <Draconicus> Also, how do I unmount swap?
[01:17] <TSCHAK> UncleD, and i've had roughly about 400 megs worth of upgrades in the time since I upgraded.
[01:17] <TSCHAK> they're working on dapper at light speed.
[01:17] <physicsmastah> draconicus: umount /dev/hda2 if swap is on hda2
[01:17] <kyncani> Draconicus: and do that from a live cd, so that no partition are write mounted
[01:18] <kyncani> Draconicus: dd if=/dev/original_drive of=/dev/dest_drive
[01:18] <Draconicus> physicsmastah, I tried that... it said it wasn't mounted, but gparted says that it is. o_O
[01:19] <SoapBath> How do I upgrade from Hedgehog to Breezy? Help would be loved :)
[01:19] <TSCHAK> i can't wait until somebody makes an intelligent drive imaging system for linux...
[01:19] <Tamanoir> Yo
[01:19] <haha> what is jetdirect?
[01:19] <TSCHAK> Norton Ghost works great.
[01:19] <Tamanoir> Can someone help me to make my headphones work :/ ?
[01:19] <physicsmastah> draconicus: check man swapoff
[01:19] <TSCHAK> haha, jetdirect is a way to talk to printers connected directly via a network cable
[01:19] <Tamanoir> Sounds works but the headphones doesnt
[01:19] <haha> o ok
[01:19] <haha> thanx
[01:19] <nickrud> !tell SoapBath about upgrade
[01:19] <TSCHAK> haha, you see it typically on high end inkjets and laser printers.
[01:19] <haha> ok
[01:19] <UncleD> All i'm looking to do is install the version of ruby that comes with dapper. Any suggestions?
[01:19] <haha> thanx for the help and al
[01:19] <TSCHAK> haha, it's a very simple protocol that just shoves the print job to the printer, and asks for a status.
[01:19] <haha> all
[01:20] <nickrud> SoapBath, read the wiki page in the msg from ubotu
[01:20] <TSCHAK> haha, no problme.
[01:20] <SoapBath> Thanks :)
[01:20] <haha> but it didnt work.. o well
[01:20] <haha> ill try again later
[01:20] <Tamanoir> I wonder if there's driver or something, cause i didnt find anything on wiki or other forums
[01:20] <UncleD> TSCHAK: All i'm looking to do is install the version of ruby that comes with dapper. How can I change my sources temporarily to do that?
[01:20] <Draconicus> TSCHAK, sure, but only the newest, newest version can handle reiserfs. :|
[01:20] <haha> thanx tho bye
[01:20] <kyncani> UncleD: look in backports ? They may have a version high enough
[01:20] <UncleD> kyncani: where are they?
[01:21] <kyncani> UncleD: google -> ubuntu backports :)
[01:21] <TSCHAK> UncleD, trying to install Rails? :-D
[01:21] <physicsmastah> what's the likely alsa-driver if i'm running on an old pentium III with a Sounc Blaster 64 sticker on the box? I tried emu10k1 without success,I can't run alsamixer
[01:21] <Draconicus> Tamanoir, are you using one of those low-end Dells with a headphone jack mounted on the front of the computer?
[01:21] <UncleD> TSCHAK: Rails 1.1 breaks on ruby 1.8.3
[01:21] <Tamanoir> nope, trust USB Draconius
[01:21] <ghosty> how do you save changed on vi from console
[01:21] <ghosty> sorry im new to linux
[01:21] <ghosty> save changes^
[01:22] <TSCHAK> UncleD, *nod* I need to figure out how to get a rails environment properly running on my laptop when i get a chance
[01:22] <kyncani> ghosty: use nano instead of vi then
[01:22] <trappist> ghosty: hit escape then :wq<enter>
[01:22] <TSCHAK> UncleD, but I've had to put my rails work on the back burner because my work load is insane.
[01:22] <Draconicus> Tamanoir, odd. It should detect most USB audio devices as such...
[01:22] <niki> my web browser appears to be running waaaay slow, especially compared to the speed my browser runs on my windows machine...is there something i can do to speed this up?
[01:22] <TSCHAK> UncleD, (I am developing an ecommerce engine in rails)
[01:22] <useruser> niki: try opera
[01:22] <UncleD> kyncani: how can backports help me? backports seem to be for breezy (which I already have?)
[01:22] <Draconicus> niki, I wouldn'
[01:22] <UncleD> TSCHAK: interesting. substruct is the only one ive seen so far.
[01:23] <physicsmastah> my experience is that opera takes even longer to startup than firefox
[01:23] <TSCHAK> UncleD, substruct isn't really all that interesting....
[01:23] <useruser> niki: firefox is a lot slower under linux than windows
[01:23] <UncleD> TSCHAK: nope, it's pretty limited. It's the only one ive seen though.
[01:23] <useruser> physicsmastah: long time to start, but fast to use
[01:23] <TSCHAK> UncleD, it's really an embeddable engine meant for existing rails projects.
[01:23] <niki> useruser, ok...i'll give it a shot, thanks :)
[01:23] <kyncani> UncleD: backports offer higher versions of packages compiled for breezy. With any luck, the package you're looking for may be available in a version high enough
[01:23] <niki> Draconicus, what would you suggest though, if not opera?
[01:23] <TSCHAK> UncleD, I'm writing one which uses AJAX extensively for in-place editing of most common functions on the page itself.
[01:23] <physicsmastah> useruser: i agree
[01:23] <kozhy> somebody has tried to install Xgl with ATI in Breezy or only in Drapper ?
[01:23] <Tamanoir> Draconius : do you think it can be a bad sound device setting ?
[01:24] <Draconicus> niki, I wouldn't listen to users of other browsers, if I were you. You'll get the most out of Mozilla browsers. Firefox is oddly resource taxing on Linux. Nobody seems to know why. Classic Mozilla browsers should support the embedded multimedia packages, though.
[01:24] <TSCHAK> UncleD, with a floating administration menu (using what I call a floater icon, which stays in window at all times)
[01:24] <UncleD> kyncani: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:24] <Tamanoir> I let my device on autodetect...theres more and i dont know if i should try another one of these
[01:25] <Draconicus> Tamanoir, please use tab completion. Also, I don't know, at this point.
[01:25] <useruser> niki: yeah, epiphany is another option, but I've found all gecko browsers slower than opera to some extent.
[01:25] <illusions> i am was looking on ubuntu forums and i lost the link to a app that is like a auto installer
[01:25] <illusions> i am just trying to install skype prity much
[01:25] <physicsmastah> Does anybody know what kind of sound card "AT-style speaker" in Device Manager sound could be? I'm trying to get alsa running and I'm getting quite desperate
[01:25] <UncleD> what's up with this?
[01:25] <UncleD> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/breezy/dists/main/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:26] <Tamanoir> Where is usb tab completion ?
[01:26] <kyncani> UncleD: well, i don't have a breezy sources.list with backports right now with me, but you should find the exact repo line somewhere on the net
[01:26] <niki> useruser, does epiphany support tabbed browsing?
[01:26] <useruser> niki: yes
[01:26] <Draconicus> Tamanoir, what?
[01:26] <illusions> any takers? want to help? :/
[01:26] <Draconicus> niki, epiphany will also be more limited than gecko browsers.
[01:26] <TSCHAK> illusions, the best way to install skype is this:
[01:26] <physicsmastah> AT-style speaker? Anyone?
[01:26] <TSCHAK> illusions, (1) grab the fedora core RPM
[01:26] <Skinux> haha, not having too much luck! let me try one more thing
[01:27] <useruser> Draconicus: epiphany is a gecko browser
[01:27] <illusions> ok
[01:27] <TSCHAK> illusions, (2) install the alien package from synaptic
[01:27] <Draconicus> useruser: ...Oh. >_>
[01:27] <niki> :P
[01:27] <TSCHAK> illusions, (3) in a terminal type alien --install skype_whatever_the_package_is.rpm
[01:27] <TSCHAK> illusions, done.
[01:27] <useruser> Draconicus: you want a non-gecko browser which is lightning fast, try dillo
[01:27] <Draconicus> niki, ignore my last moment of ignorance. I know little about epiphany. I just don't like how it performs.
[01:27] <UncleD> How do I fix this error: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/breezy/dists/main/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:27] <Draconicus> useruser, who said I wanted a non-gecko browser? I want embedded media.
[01:28] <useruser> Draconicus: i know :)
[01:28] <niki> Draconicus, ok, so what would you suggest then, as a replacement for firefox?  i want to try a few out, see which performs the best
[01:28] <illusions> thanks tschak
[01:28] <TSCHAK> illusions, np, the same procedure works well for limewire as well
[01:28] <joha> Hi all!
[01:28] <jdon> im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:28] <illusions> nice :)
[01:28] <Draconicus> niki, I don't know, honestly. I use Firefox. I would maybe suggest Mozilla 1.x or something.
[01:29] <useruser> niki: your options are: epiphany, galeon, mozilla, opera, konqueror, ...
[01:29] <joha> Can somebody help me make WiFi work in Dapper? It worked during the installation, and also worked perfectly for Hoary, out of the box.
[01:29] <TSCHAK> i find it very ironic when commercial apps are concerned, that the rpm packages work better than the debian packages.. hehehe
[01:29] <ghosty> thanks for the help, sorted it out now .... nice soop and ds[de]
[01:29] <niki> thanks useruser :):)
[01:29] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:29] <obontu> hello, i just installed ubuntu,dual booting with xp, and i can see my xp partitions on my desktop, how can i make them go away for good?
[01:29] <ghosty> is it me or does ubuntu look really boring !!!
[01:29] <useruser> ghosty: it's just you, but don't worry about it. :)
[01:29] <jdon> i need sum help please
[01:30] <TSCHAK> ghosty, well, in my opinion, Windows looks like a circus clown got hit by a bus.
[01:30] <ghosty> useruser.... hahaha
[01:30] <obontu> how do i make my ubuntu not displaying the windows xp partitions on it's desktop?
[01:30] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:30] <ds[de] > ghosty; no problem
[01:30] <jdon> i need sum help please
[01:30] <ghosty> i just insatlled unbuntu on an old pc that i just build back up ... its on a AMD 400mhz
[01:31] <Amaranth> ok
[01:31] <TSCHAK> ghosty, cool
[01:31] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:31] <Amaranth> ghosty: how is it?
[01:31] <joha> ghosty: Dapper at least looks anything but boring. Plus, there's always the option of changing the default looks. Well, on a 400MHz box you're borked anyway.
[01:31] <jdon> i need sum help please
[01:31] <ghosty> trying to type in the dark with a black keyboard... so typo might be bad... hahaha
[01:31] <Amaranth> !ask
[01:31] <Amaranth> arg, who made ask so huge?
[01:32] <Sergi0> TSCHAK about NX, witch client u use for dapper, im trying an test driver from nomachine at the mo
[01:32] <jdon> dudes i need help!!
[01:32] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, the nomachine NX Client
[01:32] <joha> HELP, please?
[01:32] <ghosty> i need one of them keyboards with backlights in the keys
[01:32] <Draconicus> joha, I run Dapper as a temporary X server on a 400Mhz box at my school. :)
[01:32] <Sergi0> TSCHAK :P i figured that out :) but i have some isues installing the deb
[01:32] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, I alien-install the fedora core RPMs, and it works best.
[01:32] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, don't use the deb
[01:33] <TSCHAK> Sergi0, i doesn't work
[01:33] <jdon> guys, im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens, can somone please help me
[01:33] <Draconicus> joha: And it's a celeron. XP
[01:33] <Sergi0> TSCHAK oh, does debian does rpm then? (thats new to me)
[01:33] <Skinux> haha, still there?
[01:34] <jdon> skinux, i changed my name
[01:34] <jdon> to jdon
[01:34] <torque> aaaaaaaaaa
[01:34] <swoop> hi... does anyone could explain me how to install nvidia's driver in ubuntu?
[01:34] <iGotNoTime> Can I please get some sound device help?
[01:34] <jdon> someone please help me  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:35] <Draconicus> iGotNoTime, do you have time? :P
[01:35] <kyncani> swoop: it's all explained in ubuntu wiki :)
[01:35] <ghosty> swoop: ndswrapper, i think its called lets you use windows .ini in linux
[01:35] <iGotNoTime> I bought a new USB headtset and it works, but I can't change the audio device in Skype or any SIP phone devices
[01:35] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:35] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:35] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:35] <jdon>  im tryin to access files from my ubuntu computer on my windows pc and when i go to my netowrk places it shows the ubuntu computer there but when i click on it it asks for a user name and password and when i type it in nothing happens
[01:35] <TSCHAK2> jdon, calm down
[01:35] <niki> ack
[01:35] <ghosty> i think thats what its called
[01:35] <iGotNoTime> bye jdon
[01:35] <TSCHAK2> jdon, CALM DOWN
[01:35] <LadyNikon> ok
[01:35] <jdon> ok
[01:35] <TSCHAK2> jdon, are you sharing anythng?
[01:35] <niki> it's cool, dude!  :D
[01:35] <jdon> yes
[01:36] <swoop> kyncani,  sorry, but, what is it? :(
[01:36] <LadyNikon> In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have theI need to answer this question..
[01:36] <LadyNikon> kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running.
[01:36] <kyncani> swoop: it's all explained in ubuntu wiki :)
[01:36] <Fenixx> somebody can say to me since I make to know the amount megas that I am lowering in a connection to Internet I talk about to a connection via moden external connected to the computer by network cable
[01:36] <cafuego_> vpn kernel module?
[01:36] <Tamanoir> Where are the USB settings in KDE please ?
[01:36] <TSCHAK2> jdon, you've right clicked a folder, and gone into Share Folder ?
[01:37] <LadyNikon> jdon: wt..
[01:37] <jdon> yes
[01:37] <IdleOne> Fenixx, where are you from? what country?
[01:37] <TSCHAK2> jdon, hmm
[01:37] <swoop> what is ubuntu wiki?
[01:37] <ghosty> this old machine is slow as crap!!!!!, makes me see how much computers have come on since the time i had this computer years ago
[01:37] <cafuego_> wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <swoop> thanks! ;)
[01:37] <duelboot> help...I can't get the mic working.  I was able to get the speakers working, but mic still won't.  Made some changes, but think it just may be a bad setting that can be fixed in alsamixer...anyone have an answer?
[01:38] <IdleOne> swoop, wiki is a collection of helpfull web pages wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <LadyNikon> does anyone know?
[01:38] <cafuego_> duelboot: make sure the input isn't muted and turn the gain up a bit
[01:38] <swoop> IdleOne ok! thanks ;)
[01:38] <duelboot> checking cafuego
[01:38] <thomas> anyone here know how to use samba?
[01:38] <iGotNoTime> duelboot: I am here with sound problems too :(
[01:38] <ghosty> yey! got nmap :) love it
[01:38] <arrick> !samba
[01:38] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:38] <ghosty> anyways im off laterzzzzzzz
[01:38] <iGotNoTime> thomas that is a big question :)
[01:39] <arrick> thomas, this is for you !samba
[01:39] <thomas> i need a bit of help viewing windows comps on network/share my stuff im running on linux
[01:39] <arrick> !samba
[01:39] <Fenixx> idleone: I am of Venezuela, excuses if my ingles is not very clear
[01:39] <duelboot> cafuego_ any suggestions for the best interface...is alsamixer okay
[01:39] <cafuego_> duelboot: whatever changes alsa settings is fine
[01:39] <IdleOne> Fenixx, non te preocupas amigo escribe /j #ubuntu-es por ajuda
[01:40] <cafuego_> hrm
[01:40] <LadyNikon> bleh
[01:40] <cafuego_> LadyNikon: Does anyone know what?
[01:40] <Fenixx> Idleone: gracias
[01:40] <LadyNikon> it seems I dont have a /usr/src/linux directory
[01:40] <cafuego_> LadyNikon: What are you compiling?
[01:40] <LadyNikon> i am trying to get vpnc up and running
[01:40] <arrick> How do I get a .jpg to automatically insert every time I send a new email?
[01:40] <LadyNikon> kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running.
[01:40] <arrick> it's a business card
[01:41] <TheFaction20> hey guys i seem to have just about everything working with the exception of my speakers. i have a creative sound card
[01:41] <LadyNikon> it wants to know ^
[01:41] <arrick> in the evolution program
[01:41] <cafuego_> May I recommend openvpn? (No kernel stuff required)
[01:41] <LadyNikon> cafuego_: my company requires certain thing
[01:41] <cafuego_> LadyNikon: ANyway, you'd need 'kernel-headers-$(uname -r)'
[01:42] <duelboot> cafuego_ no luck...mic is unmuted, but don't get sound...I get sound with my media players so it's some other input issue
[01:42] <LadyNikon> cafuego_: is that what i run?
[01:42] <LadyNikon> or is that what I put in there?
[01:43] <TheFaction20> hey guys i seem to have just about everything working with the exception of my speakers. i have a creative sound card
[01:43] <LadyNikon> heh
[01:43] <LadyNikon> sound + linux
[01:43] <thomas> how do i get into smb thru nautilus anyone know the command offhand?
[01:43] <thomas> i remember somethign like
[01:44] <arrick> How do I get a .jpg to automatically insert every time I send a new email? I want to insert a business card, and I'm using the evolution program in ubuntu.
[01:44] <thomas> nautilus smb:// or somethign in the terminal
[01:44] <duelboot> TheFaction20, I got my speakers to work by using alsamixer...change headphone to Rear Jac and the rear jack to mixer output...it worked for me anyway, but my mic still doesn't work
[01:45] <LadyNikon> cafuego_: i get Directory "kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386" doesn't exist
[01:45] <IdleOne> arrick, in evolution settings you can setup a signature. not sure exactly where but it is in there
[01:45] <folki> does anybody use dapper draker?
[01:45] <IdleOne> !dapper
[01:45] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:45] <TheFaction20> duelboot:where do i find/get alsamixer?
[01:45] <arrick> ok,thanks idelone
[01:46] <amphi> TheFaction20: alsa-utils IIRC
[01:46] <folki> yes but alpha version exists
[01:46] <niki> help!  after installing allegro, i got a thing at the end...something about adding it to my path before i can run an allegro app..can someone help me with this?
[01:47] <IdleOne> folki, join #ubuntu+1 for help with dapper ( flight5 )
[01:47] <TSCHAK2> thomas, two ways... (1) connect to server inside the Go menu
[01:47] <TSCHAK2> thomas, or Open Location.. then smb://computer/share
[01:48] <thomas> i figured it out
[01:48] <TheFaction20> amphi:i dont seem to understand
[01:48] <duelboot> TheFaction20:  sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[01:49] <panzer>  sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer???? what is?
[01:49] <duelboot> panzer:  app for setting up sound
[01:49] <harre> I have a issue with my LCD monitor, when I try to install ubuntu I only get a flickering screen, but it works perfectly with my CRT monitor, anyone know how to fix it?
[01:49] <LadyNikon> its the alsa mixer for gnome?
[01:49] <duelboot> LadyNikon yes
[01:49] <LadyNikon> harre: settings.
[01:49] <new-2-ubuntu> hello, I need too know how 2 allow access 2 my smb shares.. I got em shared but need a login
[01:50] <amphi> TheFaction20: the alsa-utils package contains alsamixer, I believe
[01:50] <panzer> duelboot ok
[01:50] <new-2-ubuntu> I forgot how :(
[01:50] <harre> LadyNikon: what setting?
[01:50] <TheFaction20> amphi:it says package not found
[01:50] <new-2-ubuntu> my monithor doesnt go under 1024 768 anymore, might be monitor problems
[01:50] <niki> help!  after installing allegro, i got a thing at the end...something about adding it to my path before i can run an allegro app..can someone help me with this?
[01:51] <Sergi0> TSCHAK2 i've installed the deb, looking around on an testserver, the speed is real nice
[01:51] <amphi> TheFaction20: you have your sources.list set up properly?
[01:51] <cmatheson> i'm using maildrop to filter mail from my imap account into various folders... for some reason i can't access them all though.  if i try to open the 'Backup' folder for example, it says that the "Mailbox does not exist, or must be subscribed to"
[01:51] <TheFaction20> amphi:idk
[01:51] <new-2-ubuntu> I am runnning ubuntu gnome on breezy badger, how do I make a login for networking??  Ihad 2 re-install & forgot how :(
[01:52] <amphi> TheFaction20: ?
[01:52] <new-2-ubuntu> I have the folder shared
[01:52] <new-2-ubuntu> smb share
[01:52] <TheFaction20> amphi:im not familiar with my source list
[01:52] <TheFaction20> amphi:ive barely been using this for a week
[01:52] <amphi> !sources.list
[01:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:52] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: not sure what you mean.  do you want to log in from another computer?
[01:52] <amphi> TheFaction20: ^^
[01:52] <new-2-ubuntu> yes
[01:53] <new-2-ubuntu> cannot login from a windows box
[01:53] <fiendskull9> how do i set gaim to use /dev/dsp instead of dsp0?
[01:53] <harre> LadyNikon: what setting?
[01:53] <new-2-ubuntu> I have a smb share established but forgot how 2 make the login for it
[01:53] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: do you want a GUI or command-line access?
[01:54] <new-2-ubuntu> I know there is  a setting 2 specify users & pass for the share but forgot how
[01:54] <TheFaction20> amphi:what do i do with this
[01:54] <TSCHAK2> Sergi0, :-)
[01:54] <new-2-ubuntu> gui
[01:54] <new-2-ubuntu> I dont like the terminal :(
[01:54] <niki> help!  after installing allegro, i got a thing at the end...something about adding it to my path before i can run an allegro app..can someone help me with this?  i just need to know how to edit my path i think...i pasted the output, it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11075
[01:54] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: ahh, 'sudo smbpasswd -a <username>'
[01:55] <harre> I have a issue with my LCD monitor, when I try to install ubuntu I only get a flickering screen, but it works perfectly with my CRT monitor, anyone know how to fix it?
[01:55] <duelboot> help:  speakers working, but mic input is not...any suggestions?
[01:56] <new-2-ubuntu> ok got it thx
[01:56] <blacknight> duelboot, I have the same issue :)
[01:56] <new-2-ubuntu> now how do  Ido that for printers?
[01:57] <new-2-ubuntu> I got networked printer
[01:57] <amphi> TheFaction20: I'm not on ubuntu ATM - if apt-cache search alsa-utils shows no such package, you need to fix up your sources.list & run apt-cache update, I expect - ask uboto about easysource
[01:57] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: XP?
[01:57] <new-2-ubuntu> do  Ijust use smbpasswd ??
[01:57] <new-2-ubuntu> hell no
[01:57] <bimberi> lol
[01:57] <new-2-ubuntu> xp = gaynes :p I use windows 2000
[01:57] <TheFaction20> amphi:it found it
[01:57] <TheFaction20> amphi:now how do i access it?
[01:58] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: hmmk.  I think this is still applicable ...
[01:58] <bimberi> !xpprint
[01:58] <ubotu> Printing from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[01:58] <amphi> TheFaction20: did you install the package?
[01:58] <new-2-ubuntu> another problem it has hp photosmart 7960 not 7900 will it matter??
[01:58] <nazty> can anyone help me out with my gcc compiler?
[01:58] <niki> help!  after installing allegro, i got a thing at the end...something about adding it to my path before i can run an allegro app..can someone help me with this?  i just need to know how to edit my path i think...i pasted the output, it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11075
[01:59] <amphi> TheFaction20: otherwise, do apt-get install alsa-utils to install it
[01:59] <munkie2> nazty, whats the problem?
[01:59] <nazty> im trying to compile the latest version of epic5
[01:59] <nazty> and when i sh configure
[01:59] <nazty> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[01:59] <TheFaction20> amphi:i found that it was installed apparently
[01:59] <nazty> heres the whole
[01:59] <nazty> checking for gcc... gcc
[01:59] <nazty> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[01:59] <nazty> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[01:59] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: yes try the nearest driver, usually works OK.  If not search for a PPD file at HP's website or linuxprinting.org
[02:00] <Falstius> nazty: did you install the compiler?
[02:00] <nazty> yes
[02:00] <amphi> TheFaction20: so what's the problem? if you type alsamixer in a term, you get an error?
[02:00] <nazty> off synaptics
[02:00] <nazty> gcc4
[02:00] <Falstius> nazty, you should install "build-essential"
[02:00] <nazty> its there
[02:00] <bimberi> nazty: install 'build-essential' and retry
[02:01] <nazty> ok
[02:01] <new-2-ubuntu> Gah I cannot access my printer from a pc upstairs... do I sue that pc's network login or must  use one I made for smb
[02:01] <kbrooks> Mirrored - avoiding centralization: centraization is a central point of failure: #mirrored
[02:01] <gfxstyler> hi there
[02:01] <nazty> ok im installing right now
[02:02] <gfxstyler> is the icon for the gnome-battery-monitor hardcoded? i can't seem to find it anywhere
[02:02] <nazty> ahhhh
[02:02] <Falstius> nazty, did you notice how much space it said it would use?
[02:02] <nazty> you guys are great
[02:02] <arrick> IdleOne, I got the signature created with the jpg in it, and inserted it, and I dont see it when I open the email I sent to myself as a test message
[02:02] <arrick> what next
[02:02] <nazty> it got past the part in configure
[02:02] <arrick> !pastebin
[02:02] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - You can install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[02:03] <IdleOne> arrick, I really dont know I dont use any signatures
[02:03] <arrick> ok
[02:03] <ctooley> I'm having trouble trying to isntall to a haddrive.  It says it can't find /dev/ram when I choose "Install to a hard disk" and gives me a shell
[02:03] <arrick> Anyone good with evolution?
[02:03] <Falstius> arrick: it is entirely possible that pictures embedded in email are blocked.
[02:03] <new-2-ubuntu> I have pinter installed but failes 2 print :(
[02:03] <new-2-ubuntu> fails*
[02:04] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: so you're printing from a W2K box to a printer connected to your ubuntu box?
[02:04] <nazty> thanks a;pt guys
[02:04] <nazty> thanks alot
[02:04] <nazty> !
[02:04] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nazty
[02:04] <arrick> even If I set it up as html and enable the html from internet?
[02:04] <bimberi> nazty: np :)
[02:04] <new-2-ubuntu> no I got priter on w2k box trying 2 print from ubuntu box
[02:04] <new-2-ubuntu> printer*
[02:04] <arrick> new-2-ubuntu, what kind of printer?
[02:05] <new-2-ubuntu> hp photosmart 7900
[02:05] <new-2-ubuntu> its plugged in correcty I can print from w2k box
[02:05] <Falstius> new-2-ubuntu: aahhh ... evil printers.
[02:05] <new-2-ubuntu> somthing 2 do with login & pass. I dont think windos understands it
[02:05] <Skinux> new-2-ubuntu : print sharing enabled on W2K
[02:06] <arrick> install samba and set it to send password unencrypted
[02:06] <TSCHAK2> new-2-ubuntu, use guest  as username  no password
[02:06] <arrick> !samba
[02:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:06] <arrick> that too
[02:06] <NickGarvey> mm samba is good stuff
[02:06] <TSCHAK2> I'm pissed that the Share Folder function
[02:06] <TSCHAK2> in ubuntu
[02:06] <TSCHAK2> is basically useless
[02:06] <arrick> huh?
[02:06] <bimberi> new-2-ubuntu: sorry was checking wiki pages, looks like you're getting good advice :)
[02:06] <TSCHAK2> so insanely stupid that you would go through the trouble of being able to easily set up a share
[02:06] <new-2-ubuntu> I disable guest for security purposes
[02:07] <TSCHAK2> yet you have to run smbpasswd
[02:07] <ubuntu> ls
[02:07] <TSCHAK2> just to add a user who can use it
[02:07] <new-2-ubuntu> yes
[02:07] <arrick> yep
[02:07] <TSCHAK2> that's insanely stupid, people
[02:07] <new-2-ubuntu> i got a smpusername & pass
[02:07] <TSCHAK2> SHORT SIGHTED!!!!
[02:07] <ubuntu> join
[02:07] <arrick> smbpasword
[02:07] <new-2-ubuntu> must I set machin upstairs with same username & pass?? cus printer oes specify username & pass I am using the user printer account on it
[02:08] <Cyorxamp> you mean 'machine'
[02:08] <Cyorxamp> machin sets my trigger off :S
[02:08] <TSCHAK2> I've been a linux user since 1991... a Samba user since 1996.... and the fact that even though we have nice UIs to handle shares now.... you STILL have to do this, is .... insanely stupid
[02:08] <TSCHAK2> does nobody care?
[02:08] <amphi> TSCHAK2: no ;)
[02:08] <duelboot> help:  speakers working, but mic input is not...any suggestions?
[02:08] <new-2-ubuntu> new mic :P
[02:08] <arrick> complain in off-topic please
[02:09] <biovore> duelboot: what sound card?
[02:09] <new-2-ubuntu> How do I get this box 2 login 2 printer?
[02:09] <arrick> !samba
[02:09] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:09] <new-2-ubuntu> brb tryin sumthing
[02:09] <TSCHAK2> how are we supposed to attract new users
[02:09] <duelboot> biovore...hold one
[02:09] <amphi> samba could also be http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[02:09] <TSCHAK2> if we still have to do insanely arcane stuff like this?
[02:09] <bimberi> TSCHAK2: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+filebug  :)
[02:09] <TSCHAK2> bimberi, already been filed
[02:10] <TSCHAK2> bimberi, nobody seems to care.
[02:10] <bimberi> TSCHAK2: by you?  if not add a comment
[02:10] <amphi> TSCHAK2: submit a suitable patch?
[02:10] <new-2-ubuntu> I can only see one networked machine??
[02:10] <arrick> yeah
[02:10] <arrick> you need to enable ntfs to be seen
[02:10] <we2by> hi guys
[02:10] <arrick> !ntfs
[02:10] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:10] <we2by> I have a mobo with nvidia chipset
[02:10] <new-2-ubuntu> under shared folders?
[02:10] <j4k> Would you install dapper on a production system?
[02:11] <arrick> yeah
[02:11] <we2by> and i can't get X working
[02:11] <new-2-ubuntu> I am using smb & it worked bfore
[02:11] <Hollowman8904> how can i mount a network share so that media programs think its local
[02:11] <Sergi0> j4k at the moment not yet
[02:11] <Hollowman8904> or to the point, how can i play networked music?
[02:11] <MrCollins> I cant login to my sshd account on my ubuntu box... could it be I need to reset a certificate of some kind?
[02:11] <we2by> is there a preocmpiled kernel with nvidia drivers for the mainboard (it got onbaord video)
[02:11] <arrick> new-2-ubuntu, what did yo change recently?
[02:11] <j4k> Sergio0: Meh, thanks
[02:11] <MrCollins> or is it an issue with my putty client on my win32 box?
[02:11] <Sergi0> j4k, there are alot of updates comming true, but its almost there
[02:12] <bimberi> TSCHAK2: btw i agree with you :)
[02:12] <duelboot> bivore:  Intel ICH5 SigmaTel STAC9758,59
[02:12] <arrick> Hollowman8904, share the folder on the network
[02:12] <new-2-ubuntu> I re-installed my sudo & su didnt start anymore :( it was f'ed up
[02:12] <duelboot> biovore Intel ICH5 SigmaTel STAC9758,59
[02:12] <biovore> ich5..  on board audio?
[02:12] <new-2-ubuntu> I am starting fresh
[02:12] <duelboot> biovore: laptop
[02:12] <j4k> Sergio0: Say I installed it and worked with it until the final version is released. Will I be able to update the OS with the update utility?
[02:12] <arrick> help someone with more experience please
[02:12] <biovore> some laptops have problems..
[02:13] <TheFaction20> have any of you installed ubuntu on a external hard drive?
[02:13] <arrick> yeah I have
[02:13] <Hollowman8904> arrick:  nvm i found the problem... the share name had a space in it (windows box) and linux doesn't like that apparently
[02:13] <biovore> duelboot: try using alsamixer on the cli
[02:13] <arrick> yeah you have to use an underscore for it
[02:13] <Sergi0> j4k, sure, i do it :)
[02:13] <duelboot> biovore:  I got it to work once in Mandriva...changed some options in alsamixer and it worked...put in ubuntu and now I don't know those settings
[02:14] <biovore> biovore: use f5 so adjust values untill it works
[02:14] <duelboot> biovore:  I've tried almost every imaginable option in alsamixer...no luck (yet)
[02:14] <Hollowman8904> arrick, one more thing though... im trying to use kaffeine, but I can't browse the network with it.. how can i make it work?  or what was that other program that resembles winamp?
[02:14] <new-2-ubuntu> I cannot see my own pc. wait might be on diffrent workgroup gggrr..
[02:14] <biovore> duelboot: no clue then..  I have a SB Live and it works fine..
[02:14] <duelboot> biovore thx anyway
[02:14] <arrick> you can browse the network, by going through the media folder
[02:14] <new-2-ubuntu> mshome
[02:15] <new-2-ubuntu> lol I almost enter mshomo as wrkgroup name bua, ha ha \
[02:15] <Hollowman8904> all i have in my media folder is cdrom and cdrom0
[02:15] <arrick> you must mount the drive you want to play from then
[02:16] <new-2-ubuntu> brbresetting pc's with mshme workgroup
[02:16] <arrick> ok
[02:16] <arrick> what kind of partition is your music on?
[02:16] <arrick> Hollowman8904, that last question was for you
[02:16] <MrCollins> did anyone see my question earlie
[02:17] <bimberi> MrCollins: check that the sshd is running 'ps aux | grep sshd'
[02:17] <arrick> if you have a ntfs file you need to wnable them to be seen as well
[02:18] <amphi> MrCollins: putty should work fine; sudo netstat -plunt should show sshd listening on 22
[02:18] <bimberi> amphi: another 'plunt'er :)
[02:18] <JoaoJoao> hello
[02:18] <amphi> bimberi: heh
[02:19] <MrCollins> lol
[02:19] <bimberi> amphi: i find it easy to remember
[02:19] <MrCollins> weird
[02:19] <MrCollins> i try to login as my user
[02:19] <MrCollins> its sitting there
[02:19] <MrCollins> no password attempt
[02:19] <wastrel> my precious
[02:19] <dereks> if i want to watch a dvd in my computer, i have to replace gstreamer with xine (i am using dapper)
[02:19] <dereks> ?
[02:20] <JoaoJoao> Is there a pitfdll deb available for dapper somewhere (using gst 0.10)
[02:20] <bur[n] er> !dvd
[02:20] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:20] <dereks> bur[n] er: that wasn't my question :)
[02:20] <bur[n] er> u don't "have" to
[02:20] <bur[n] er> but xine plays it a little better
[02:20] <wastrel> dereks:  supposably gstreamer is fixed in dapper, might want to ask in the dapper chan.
[02:20] <bur[n] er> dereks: #ubuntu+1 ;)
[02:21] <amphi> MrCollins: does ssh $USER@localhost work on the linux box work?
[02:21] <wastrel> dereks:  alls i know is that xine works much better in breezy
[02:21] <dereks> wastrel: bur[n] er: let me ask there
[02:21] <dereks> thanks
[02:21] <MrCollins> amphi i cant even login
[02:21] <amphi> MrCollins: on localhost? is sshd running?
[02:22] <MrCollins> amphi
[02:22] <MrCollins> i cant lgin to the linux box
[02:22] <MrCollins> im on  win32 box now
[02:23] <amphi> MrCollins: not from the console?
[02:23] <MrCollins> nope
[02:23] <LathropWells> after installing "Build-Essential" - do i get " ./configure "?  is there a link in ubuntu forum/wiki to help?
[02:23] <Hollowman8904> arrick, sorry for not answering.... how do i mount it.. i dont know how to mount network stuff
[02:24] <MrCollins> at the actual console.
[02:24] <MrCollins> let me go back
[02:24] <MrCollins> yeah
[02:24] <MrCollins> its just sitting there
[02:24] <munkie2> LathropWells, no idea but you could try searching both sites
[02:24] <illusions> TSCHAK2 you there?
[02:25] <UncleD> how can i fix this: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/breezy/dists/main/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[02:25] <wastrel> i r having a mail problem, when i send a message with more than one recipient, irritating error message is received (mutt is MUA masqmail is MTA) Error is :   550 sorry, I don't accept bounce messages with more than one
[02:25] <wastrel> +recipient. Go read RFC2821. (#5.7.1)
[02:25] <wastrel> any idears?
[02:25] <illusions> TSCHAK ?
[02:25] <TSCHAK2> illusions, am about to leave, what's up?
[02:25] <illusions> TSCHAK how i longin to root
[02:25] <TheFaction20> how can i find out all the storage devices ubuntu sees?
[02:26] <illusions> TSCHAK2 i got evrything done
[02:26] <illusions> TSCHAK2 but root
[02:26] <LathropWells> hollowman - for me samba was working from the start without tweaking it at all. this command opened a second drive across my lan "nautilus smb://machine/d/"
[02:26] <illusions> TSCHAK2 illusions@comcast:~$ alien install skype-<IP_ADDRESS>-fc3.i586.rpm
[02:26] <illusions> Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).
[02:26] <illusions> illusions@comcast:~$
[02:26] <munkie2> UncleD, correct me if im wrong...try looking at http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:27] <swoop> what is the difference between Breezy Badger and Dapper Drake?
[02:27] <kbrooks> munkie2,
[02:27] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[02:27] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:27] <TheFaction20> how can i find out all the storage devices ubuntu sees?
[02:27] <bimberi> TheFaction20: sudo fdisk -l
[02:27] <munkie2> ah, sorry, did not know : )
[02:27] <Hollowman8904> yea but that doesn't show up in my media programs
[02:27] <illusions> TSCHAK2 can i go to root throw treminal?
[02:27] <MrCollins> so....
[02:27] <kbrooks> munkie2, the ubuntu guide says 5.04. THAT old
[02:27] <LathropWells> The faction  fdisk -l will show partitions and there is a utility to auto matically edit fstab and mount them on each boot called "mounter' or 'winmac_fstab.sh"
[02:28] <MrCollins> why does my login just sit there....
[02:28] <thomas> anyone know a program like cedega but free?
[02:28] <arrick> !pastebin
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - You can install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar
[02:28] <thomas> that can run windows games
[02:28] <Xenguy> thomas: wine
[02:28] <Yango> has had anyone success with evolution with IMAP over ssh tunnel? I have a tunnel to the IMAP server, configured Evolution to connect to the IMAP server through the tunnel and then I get no new messages, when I check the messages in the server with mutt I see the new messaqges
[02:28] <swoop> bimberi,  is it easy to change the ID of a partition in ubuntu's fdisk? I'm having problems with one partitions, RAW :(
[02:28] <amphi> MrCollins: hard to say - what did you do? ;)
[02:28] <TSCHAK2> illusions, you must either use sudo, or do sudo passwd root and set a root password, you can then su to root
[02:28] <Xenguy> thomas: cedega is based on wine
[02:28] <MrCollins> i tried to ftp in from cmd line here on my win32 box
[02:28] <thomas> really? how does games run on wine? is it really slow compared to windows native?
[02:28] <MrCollins> to test my ftp daemon
[02:28] <Xenguy> illusions: sudo -i
[02:28] <bimberi> swoop: no idea sorry :|
[02:29] <Hollowman8904> how do i mount a network share as a local drive?  my media players will only allow me to scan local drives
[02:29] <MrCollins> after that, after I failed the logins....
[02:29] <MrCollins> it wont let me login with SSH or actual console...
[02:29] <swoop> bimberi,  ok! ;) i have to recover all office files in that partition :( i'm getting mad :/
[02:29] <Xenguy> thomas: dunno I'm not a gamer :-) See frankscorner.org (NOTE: a bit bit dated now I'm told, but you'll get the idea)
[02:29] <illusions> TSCHAK2 that worked thanks
[02:29] <swoop> why am i having problems with dpkg when trying to install Skype?
[02:29] <illusions> TSCHAK2 sudo -i worked thank you sir
[02:30] <amphi> MrCollins: how curious
[02:30] <MrCollins> yeah my thoughts exactly.
[02:30] <arrick> Hollowman8904, sorry, had to take a break, as I am in class at college rigth now
[02:30] <Hollowman8904> arrick, understandable
[02:30] <Xenguy> MrCollins: ftp shouldn't affect ssh though
[02:30] <MrCollins> ive been tinkering/working with linux for... 3-4 years
[02:30] <illusions> TSCHAK2 one more thing should it look like this alien install skype-<IP_ADDRESS>-fc3.i586.rpm
[02:30] <MrCollins> never seen this
[02:31] <LathropWells> http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab  << - this a wonderful script to find all available parttions and edit fstab for auto mounting of drives.  (seveas wrote it.
[02:31] <TheFaction20> has anyone used the BREEZY on external drive guide?
[02:31] <swoop> illusions,  sudo install skype-1.2.0.l8-fc3.i586.rpm ?
[02:31] <Hollowman8904> hmm... so far I have not been able to play any music that has a space in the FOLDER name, but if its in the FILE name its fine
[02:31] <MrCollins> maybe I should try a reboot?
[02:32] <arrick> yeah
[02:32] <illusions>  swoop ok lets try that ok lets try that
[02:32] <LathropWells> hollowman - hm - quirky.
[02:32] <Xenguy> MrCollins: shouldn't be necessary, but can't hurt either
[02:32] <Hollowman8904> ex, I can't play /music/Linkin Park/Papercut.mp3, but I can play /music/down with the sickness.mp3
[02:32] <swoop> illusions,  thanks! ;) i'll try it now :D just let me download the rpm file
[02:32] <arrick> Hollowman8904, what kind of partition is the network share on?
[02:32] <Xenguy> Hollowman8904: avoid spaces in *nix; it;s just a hassle
[02:32] <Kyn> Does anyone have a workaround for the KVM switch / erratic mouse problem?
[02:32] <illusions> lol
[02:32] <amphi> MrCollins: at this stage, that seems the only option
[02:32] <illusions> swoop wait
[02:33] <Hollowman8904> arrick, FAT32
[02:33] <arrick> ok, hang on
[02:33] <illusions> i was told to install aiean
[02:33] <Hollowman8904> and im not going to go through all of my folders and rename them to no spaces
[02:33] <arrick> yeah torque whats up?
[02:33] <swoop> illusions,  i had a problem while trying to do: sudo dpkg --install skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[02:33] <amphi> Hollowman8904: escape the space
[02:33] <master_> ?
[02:33] <samalex> hey g uys -- anyone running ubuntu on a Mac?  I'm installing on an imac G3 now, so just curious
[02:33] <swoop> illusions,  that's why i've asked another way
[02:34] <illusions> swoop so it would work if use alien
[02:34] <new-2-ubuntu> darn thing
[02:34] <arrick> Hollowman8904, are all these files mp3?
[02:34] <swoop> illusions,  sorry, but, what is alien?
[02:34] <new-2-ubuntu> ok stuff shared now 2 test printer
[02:34] <illusions> swoop well thats what i was told any way i am a noob
[02:34] <Hollowman8904> mp3's and wma's
[02:34] <new-2-ubuntu> its a little green man that omes from another planet
[02:34] <arrick> have you installed the 32's
[02:34] <new-2-ubuntu> He wishes for you too take im too your leader :P
[02:34] <amphi> Hollowman8904: not that changing the spaces to underscores would be hard; find and tr would be a painless way to do it
[02:34] <Hollowman8904> arrick, nvm on the space thing.. it just wont play WMAs
[02:34] <illusions> swoop install the alien package from synaptic
[02:34] <arrick> !tell Hollowman8904 about wma
[02:34] <swoop> illusions,  ok.. let me try to do it ;)
[02:35] <Xenguy> Hollowman8904: have a look at installing 'krename'; it might help with the file renaming
[02:35] <new-2-ubuntu> lmfao
[02:35] <arrick> !restricted
[02:35] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:35] <sl0th> "illusions michael!"
[02:35] <arrick> follow the guide here, it helped me Hollowman8904
[02:35] <illusions> sloth hello
[02:35] <sl0th> hey
[02:35] <sl0th> :)
[02:35] <illusions> :P
[02:36] <arrick> thats why I went to BMPx instead of kaffiene
[02:36] <illusions> Sloth how are you doing today
[02:36] <arrick> soundray you in here?
[02:36] <sl0th> i'm doing ok, and you?
[02:36] <TheFaction20> Has anyone installed ubuntu on a external drive?
[02:37] <arrick> TheFaction20, yeah I have
[02:37] <TheFaction20> arrick:did u use the tutorial on the forums?
[02:37] <illusions> i am ok thank you
[02:37] <arrick> yeah
[02:37] <sl0th> nice
[02:37] <sl0th> :P
[02:37] <arrick> TheFaction20, yeah
[02:38] <thomas> whats cmd to install .deb files?
[02:38] <bimberi> !deb
[02:38] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:38] <thomas> k
[02:38] <Skinux> thomas dpkg -i
[02:38] <LathropWells> sudo dpkg -i yourfile.deb
[02:38] <arrick> and then had to come here for help TheFaction20
[02:38] <sl0th> just a question: does anybody have high definition audio on an asus?
[02:38] <arrick> brenner you here tonight?
[02:38] <TheFaction20> arrick:if u dual boot would it just load up xp if u dont have ur drive in?
[02:38] <bimberi> !tell swoop about skype
[02:38] <sl0th> can't get the headphones to have sound
[02:38] <sl0th> :S
[02:38] <arrick> yeah
[02:38] <UncleD> How do I actually clear my archives for apt-get?
[02:38] <illusions> Sloth i wish i did :P
[02:38] <LadyNikon> How do I turn off frame buffer suppor inthe kernel.
[02:38] <brenner> arrick: yep :) hello
[02:39] <sl0th> hehe
[02:39] <new-2-ubuntu> Why is it so hard 2 network a printer?
[02:39] <new-2-ubuntu> gggrr...
[02:39] <LadyNikon> I think its lagging down my machine.
[02:39] <sl0th> so i'm not the only one
[02:39] <Kritical> I'm running a gateway server for my subnet <IP_ADDRESS>/28 using eth0 and eth0:1 ... anyone know a program which can monitor bandwidth for it?
[02:39] <sl0th> that sucks
[02:39] <sl0th> :S
[02:39] <illusions> Asus thats nice
[02:39] <arrick> brenner, can you help out TheFaction20 with his install, dualboot with external for his ubuntu drive
[02:39] <sl0th> really nice
[02:39] <sl0th> can't complain at all
[02:39] <swoop> bimberi,  thanks ;)
[02:39] <arrick> brenner, good evening to you, how goeth it?
[02:39] <thomas> i just tried to install wine and it gave me a error
[02:39] <LathropWells> The channel is really jumping with questions1 ;0
[02:40] <sl0th> they have good reputation and are worth it
[02:40] <brenner> ubotu: tell TheFaction20 about dualboot
[02:40] <new-2-ubuntu> lol whay did it wine about
[02:40] <new-2-ubuntu> u did sudo apt-get install wine right?
[02:40] <brenner> arrick, TheFaction20: is that sufficient?
[02:40] <thomas> its really slow when i get try to get it thru synaptc
[02:40] <arrick> for me, yes
[02:40] <thomas> or apt-get
[02:40] <thomas> its the same thing same repositories..
[02:41] <I_am_the_cure> no u have 2 use sudo
[02:41] <thomas> i got it somewere quicker i just need to install it now...
[02:41] <thomas> i used sudo
[02:41] <TheFaction20> brenner: well im wondering if like i dont have the usb drive plugged in will it just load up xp?
[02:41] <brenner> arrick: bit nervous today actually, going for a job interview in about an hour
[02:41] <arrick> also when Hollowman8904 gets done with wiki, he needs help with wma's like I did, I sent him to the one
[02:41] <arrick> I just got done with one this morning
[02:41] <thomas> anyone mind me msgin them the error and maybe they can find out my problem?
[02:41] <arrick> Got a job at a school as a network admin
[02:41] <new-2-ubuntu> brb seeing if the midget is online
[02:41] <arrick> 7000 user system
[02:42] <new-2-ubuntu> eer my other pc :P
[02:42] <brenner> TheFaction20: if you don't have it plugged in, i assume ubuntu's boot will fail.  xp should be fine assuming you install grub to the MBR
[02:42] <Xenguy> brenner: good luck - remember to breathe, and shine like the sun :-)
[02:42] <brenner> arrick: congrats
[02:42] <arrick> brenner, what you interviewing for?
[02:42] <arrick> thanks
[02:42] <TheFaction20> brenner:the mbr of the external correct?
[02:42] <brenner> arrick: just a basic computer operator
[02:42] <munkie2> is there a built in .rar extractor?
[02:42] <bimberi> swoop: np :)  there are issues with the package on the skype website which Seveas has fixed with the version in his repo
[02:42] <arrick> Just got my associates, now working on my bachelors
[02:43] <brenner> Xenguy: thank you.  yeah, i hope i don't pass out :)
[02:43] <UncleD> I did apt-get install ruby and it installed properly, except it doesn't seem to be in my path properly. -bash: /usr/bin/ruby: No such file or directory <-- any suggestions on how to make it so apt-get installs into the proper path?
[02:43] <Xenguy> brenner: heheh
[02:43] <swoop> bimberi,  maybe that's the problem i am having now
[02:43] <arrick> brenner, working with microsoft programs?
[02:43] <illusions> Swoop
[02:43] <swoop> yes?
[02:43] <brenner> munkie2: no, install unrar and/or unrar-nonfree
[02:43] <illusions> swoop sudo alien install skype-<IP_ADDRESS>-fc3.i586.rpm
[02:43] <illusions> File "install" not found.
[02:43] <Xenguy> brenner: that's what a nice calm adreneline rush is for - to keep you alert ;-)
[02:43] <arrick> or open source?
[02:43] <swoop> ooh!!
[02:43] <swoop> yes!! :D i didn't know how to use alien
[02:43] <swoop> let me try
[02:44] <swoop> bimberi, illusions  thanks :D
[02:44] <illusions> I download the file to my desktop
[02:44] <TheFaction20> brenner:the mbr of the external correct?
[02:44] <Xenguy> .oO(trick questio ;-)
[02:44] <brenner> arrick: well, it said experience w/ ms office is a plus :P
[02:44] <arrick> of the normal boot part
[02:44] <bimberi> swoop: alien might work, but getting the .deb is a better way
[02:44] <thomas> anyone got a xchat system info script? that tells channel your uptime cpu/ram/hd stats
[02:44] <arrick> haha
[02:44] <arrick> and you ben playing in here?
[02:44] <illusions> Swoop well i am new and i dont think i got it right
[02:44] <brenner> TheFaction20: i would think the internal one, otherwise, how are you gonna boot the system if you take away the bootloader
[02:45] <illusions> Swoop I need to point it to file path/ directoery i beleave
[02:45] <munkie2> brenner, thanks
[02:45] <TheFaction20> brenner: well i have the ability to boot from usb
[02:45] <swoop> bimberi,  i've downloaded the .deb and tried, but it says something about dpkg
[02:45] <illusions> Swoop but not sure how
[02:45] <swoop> illusions, no problem ;)
[02:45] <swoop> hmm
[02:45] <UncleD> apt-get clean isn't working. any ideas?
[02:45] <illusions> sodu dpkg install file name maybe?
[02:45] <arrick> aotitude UncleD
[02:45] <brenner> TheFaction20: i think you should consult arrick really, i've done dualboot systems, but not one w/ an external removable drive
[02:46] <arrick> aptitude UncleD
[02:46] <amphi> UncleD: in what way 'not working'?
[02:46] <UncleD> amphi: it's not cleaning any packages
[02:46] <ic56> twn thomas
[02:46] <UncleD> all my packages are still there.
[02:46] <bimberi> swoop: you can paste the error here if it's 1 line, otherwise use the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:46] <amphi> UncleD: from where?
[02:46] <Xenguy> UncleD: sudo  ?
[02:46] <UncleD> I used sudo.
[02:46] <swoop> illusions,  bimberi  i've tried this: sudo dpkg --install skype_1.2.0.l8-2_i386.deb
[02:46] <DBO> I am having a problem with evolution-data-server
[02:47] <DBO> it is eating a whole lot of ram
[02:47] <swoop> but the error is writen in portuguese...
[02:47] <swoop> :P
[02:47] <DBO> at 368MB right now
[02:47] <DBO> what can I do?
[02:47] <amphi> UncleD: apt-get clean removes debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:47] <wastrel> hi
[02:47] <carthik> illusions, bimberi, swoop : https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[02:47] <bimberi> swoop: try me,  i can always use babelfish :)
[02:47] <swoop> bimberi,  it says something like: dpkg: status data base is blocked for(or by) other process
[02:48] <arrick> TheFaction20, the answer to your question is yes to a dualboot with ubuntu on external drive, it will tell you that ubuntu is not available, and then send you to xp in 10 seconds
[02:48] <illusions> carthik thanks
[02:48] <swoop> bimberi,  :) cool :P
[02:48] <bimberi> swoop: close synaptic
[02:48] <swoop> carthik,  wow :D let me see! thanks!
[02:48] <arrick> at least it does on mine
[02:48] <swoop> that's a good idea hahah
[02:48] <swoop> closed.. let me try
[02:48] <TheFaction20> arrick:should i put grub on the external?
[02:48] <arrick> nope
[02:49] <arrick> put it in the internal
[02:49] <arrick> grub is your boot loader
[02:49] <TheFaction20> ok
[02:49] <swoop> bimberi,  it is saying now that i have to install the following packages: libqt3-mt, libqt3cl02-mt and libstdc++5
[02:49] <LadyNikon> hey is bookwarez down?
[02:50] <swoop> bimberi,  shall i go back to synaptic and look for these packages?
[02:50] <LadyNikon> woops
[02:50] <bimberi> swoop: yep
[02:50] <illusions> well your getting ferther then me on this swoop lol
[02:50] <brenner> LadyNikon: uhmmaaa :P
[02:50] <thomas> hey anyone here manage to install f.e.a.r. thru wine on ubuntu?
[02:51] <swoop> illusions,  thanks! ahha lol ;)
[02:51] <illusions> swoop so what did you do?
[02:51] <TheFaction20> arrick:if i installed grub on the external id need to have the external in at all times?
[02:51] <swoop> illusions,  last time i've tried to do something with linux was with slackware 3.33 , i don't remember anything..... it was in 1997
[02:51] <arrick> yeah
[02:51] <swoop> let me re-open synaptic
[02:51] <TheFaction20> hmmmm
[02:52] <carthik> swoop, after you convert the rpm to a .deb, $sudo dpkg -i name-of-deb.deb skhould install it, with all dependencies
[02:52] <thomas> Xenguy: hey man when i try to install fear(windows game iso) the installer starts up i click next but when i try to agree with the terms and agreements it doesnt let me click accept.. for some weird reason is it a installer issue?
[02:52] <TheFaction20> arrick:just cuz its still a family computer. and i should be getting a laptop soon so that wouldnt even be a problem. but i really dont want to keep using the live cd and having to fix everything everytime
[02:52] <GNULinuxGeek> HELP !! Links in Thunderbird no longer open Firebird
[02:52] <swoop> carthik,  nice, let me try
[02:52] <arrick> if you have xp on your internal, perform a norma dual boot with the external plugged in and turned on and tell ubuntu to boot from the hard drive.
[02:53] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, firebird is not firefox ;)
[02:53] <arrick> or you could back up your settings on disc til you get the other puter
[02:53] <TheFaction20> u mean install ubuntu on the internal?>
[02:53] <swoop> carthik,  didn't work
[02:53] <TheFaction20> just cuz thats what im trying to avoid
[02:53] <arrick> then after boot put the isc in and wallah
[02:53] <bimberi> carthik: dpkg doesn't install dependencies
[02:53] <Xenguy> thomas: I've actually seen that before with wine; maybe you want to /join #winehq  ?
[02:53] <swoop> bimberi,  now synaptic is saying that i have one broken package
[02:53] <gfxstyler> how can i apply bold fonts just to the gnome-panel or other menu-bars?
[02:53] <TheFaction20> arrick:otherwise im not following
[02:54] <arrick> hang on
 Sorry forgot...  but it still doesn't open in Firefox
[02:54] <thomas> sure
[02:54] <LathropWells> /etc/init.d/cups   - what is the command to start this service?
[02:54] <bimberi> swoop: that's ok, that's from your attempt to install skype, it'll go away once it is installed
[02:54] <swoop> hmm ok ;)
[02:54] <Xenguy> LathropWells: append a 'start' (no quotes)
[02:54] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, try $sudo update-alternatives --list x-www-browser
[02:54] <LKRaider> ubotu: tell LKRaider about codecs
[02:55] <LathropWells> xenguy - Thank You.
[02:55] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, that will list options, and then the --set option will help you set it
[02:55] <LKRaider> ubotu: tell desousa2 about codecs
[02:55] <ic56> gfxstyler: doesn't taskbar>System>preferences>menu... do it?
[02:55] <Xenguy> LathropWells: yw - you can check for options with /etc/init.d/cups --help
[02:55] <carthik> gfxstyler, system->prefs->fonts
[02:55] <mattcraigschultz> how do i export my KERNEL_PATH for make?
[02:55] <gfxstyler> ic56: no it doesn't :)
[02:55] <carthik> gfxstyler, tweak till pleased
[02:56] <wastrel> happy happy
[02:56] <gfxstyler> carthik: but that sets bold fonts to everything
[02:56] <ic56> gfxstyler: ooops, I should of said ...>fonts
[02:56] <amphi> mattcraigschultz: KERNEL_PATH=/foo/bar make
[02:56] <mattcraigschultz> amphi: thanks
 gives back /usr/bin/konqueror but that doesn't open either
[02:56] <carthik> gfxstyler, i have only window title font set to bold
[02:56] <cobalt> Im on a Breezy Live cd and I want to chroot into the Hard disk so I may format and partition it.  Anyone know a resource on how to chroot?
[02:56] <amphi> mattcraigschultz: that sets it for that command; otherwise 'export KERNEL_PATH=/foo/bar
[02:57] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, dunno what the problem might be..
[02:57] <amphi> '
[02:57] <gfxstyler> carthik: window title != menubars :)
[02:57] <ic56> gfxstyler: you mean you want to set the font in the window title of a *particular* window?
[02:57] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, what does it open in?
 nothing opens
[02:57] <gfxstyler> ic56: no, just for example gnome-panel or other menus .. i remember i need to change something in a .gtkrc file
[02:57] <carthik> GNULinuxGeek, oh. well, does thunderbird have an option to specify what to open links with? I think it does.. check the tb prefs
[02:57] <brenner> cobalt: wouldn't it be easier to use say, the gparted livecd?
[02:58] <swoop> bimberi,  installing the packages, but, i found only 2 of those 3 i needed
[02:58] <cobalt> brenner, dont have it
[02:58] <bpont> what is the command for outputting the startup messages into a text file...i know it's dmesg something...
[02:58] <swoop> bimberi,  libqt3cl02-mt is missing.... :(
[02:58] <DBO> I am having a problem with evolution 1.4, I believe the bug is fixed in 1.5, is it safe to upgrade on breezey?
[02:58] <Xenguy> bpont: dmesg > file
[02:58] <cobalt> brenner, plus I need to get on that drive
[02:59] <bimberi> swoop: are you installing the .deb from Seveas' repository (or a mirror)?
[02:59] <swoop> bimberi,  nope :(
[02:59] <brenner> cobalt: well, don't know if it's relevant but:
[02:59] <brenner> ubotu: tell cobalt about chroot
[02:59] <illusions> its in the repository?
[02:59] <illusions> i download it from skype.com
[03:00] <bimberi> swoop: ah, yes the rpm and the deb from the skype website have the wrong dependencies.
[03:00] <illusions> son of a gun
[03:00] <illusions> doh!
 There are no Prefernces settings for that.  My KDE settings show that Firefox is it.
[03:00] <swoop> bimberi,  so... would you mind to paste that Seveas's link again? or, is it in skype's website?
[03:01] <Eleaf> How do I get php to run with root permissions?
[03:01] <amphi> GNULinuxGeek: perhaps look at /etc/mailcap
[03:01] <bimberi> swoop, illusions: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - go to one of the mirrors (the main machine is very slow) and find your way to the .deb (it's in extras)
[03:01] <amphi> GNULinuxGeek: or ~/.mailcap
[03:01] <illusions> thanks
[03:01] <ic56> bpont: dmesg just displays an existing file -- /var/log/dmesg .  However, if you insist on capturing the output of dmesg, do it like so: dmesg > myfile
[03:02] <swoop> bimberi,  ok... let me try :)
[03:03] <wastrel> hmm what mail server do i have installed?
[03:03] <bimberi> swoop, illusions: here's a direct link -  http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:03] <Eleaf> Anybody?
[03:03] <illusions> bimberi deb [WWW]  http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections that looks about right ?
[03:03] <twirpie> ack geez im still getting nowhere with running games through wine and without, and also still having problems getting clamav up and running :(
[03:03] <Eleaf> Is it possible to get php to have root privelages?
[03:03] <amphi> wastrel: who can say? ;)
[03:03] <illusions> oh thanks
[03:04] <wastrel> amphi:  i imagine apt, if i can figure out how to ask it
[03:04] <nickrud> I'd guess none
[03:04] <illusions> bimberi thank you so much
[03:04] <wastrel> nickrud:  no mail server by default?  how is local mail handled?
[03:04] <bimberi> illusions: you _could_ add the repository but for this it's better to just download the .deb
[03:04] <bimberi> illusions: np :)
[03:04] <illusions> Swoop after all this work your going to have to add me to skype lol
[03:04] <Xenguy> Eleaf: sounds like a bad idea
[03:04] <nickrud> wastrel, I have no idea, I popped exim in right away
[03:05] <swoop> illusions,  hahahaaha sure!.. wait.. telehpone
[03:05] <amphi> wastrel: dpkg -l | grep mail perhaps
[03:05] <Eleaf> Xenguy, do you wanna hear my situation and reccomend an option?
[03:05] <wastrel> i've played around with a bunch, i forget what i settled with.
[03:05] <Xenguy> Eleaf: just ask the channel; what do I know ?  :-)
[03:05] <Eleaf> lol
[03:05] <wastrel> ahh i have esmtp
[03:06] <wastrel> it's misbehaving :p
[03:06] <swoop> bimberi,  all the links are for .deb files :O isn't it?
[03:06] <Eleaf> I have a php upload script, and a file is uploaded, and saved to a very permissive directory.  The problem is, the file is saved with very low permissions and only root can edit it.  In the php upload file i try to do a chown() and change the owner to something more permissive but php does not have the permission to change such a file.  What should I do?
[03:07] <bpont> ic56: the output looks different than what i see on my screen when i boot up...
[03:07] <bimberi> swoop: use this - http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:07] <UncleD> amphi: I installed ruby using synaptic and everything went perfect.
[03:07] <ic56> bpont: different how?
[03:07] <UncleD> amphi: I installed using the version from dappers source.list
[03:07] <swoop> bimberi,  thanks :D:D
[03:07] <bimberi> swoop: the wiki page talks about adding the repository which is unnecessary for this
[03:07] <LadyNikon> brenner: ?
[03:07] <Eleaf> Anybody?
[03:08] <ic56> Eleaf: what do you mean very low perms?
[03:08] <bimberi> swoop: np :)
[03:08] <Xenguy> Eleaf: all I can suggest is that there might be a #php channel
[03:08] <amphi> UncleD: I don't know what you're trying to do - downgrade ruby?
[03:08] <brenner> LadyNikon: nvm
[03:08] <bpont> ic56: for example...there's an error message each time i boot up...something like resolve host....................FAIL  / most other lines end with ...............OK
[03:08] <illusions> bimber so i have download on to my desk top what whould be my next step
[03:08] <ic56> Eleaf: who owns the file and why do you need someone else to own it?
[03:08] <bpont> i'm looking for those messages
[03:09] <Eleaf> Xenguy, they banned me because I hit 'enter' to much.  (I hit enter less than I am right now...)
[03:09] <bimberi> illusions: open a terminal, 'cd Desktop' then 'sudo dpkg -i skype<tab>'
[03:09] <Eleaf> ic56, it is owned by www-data
[03:09] <Xenguy> bpont: that might be ntp sync; it's not critical
[03:09] <dt-oz-gc> Elaf, can the command 'sudo  used?chown [newowner]  [file]  be
[03:09] <Eleaf> ic56, I need to file to be owned by 'blend' and be 777 (or the like) permissive for a python program
[03:09] <Xenguy> Eleaf: heh (/msg ubotu enter)
[03:09] <bimberi> illusions: you might get an error about missing dependencies, take note of what they are and install them using apt-get/synaptic
[03:09] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, in the python program?
[03:09] <Eleaf> Xenguy, yes I know
[03:09] <dt-oz-gc> Elaf, can the command 'sudo  chown [newowner]  [file] ' be used?
[03:10] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, it would have to be in the php file, I cannot be here to do it every time somethign is uploaded
[03:10] <bpont> Xenguy: OK...but why is the output of dmesg different than what i see on screen?  (just curious)
[03:10] <twirpie> im still getting nowhere with running games through wine and without, and also still having problems getting clamav up and running, any help please?
[03:10] <ic56> bpont: that ..ok or ...fail output isn't logged, to my knowledge.  However, you grep for where it's generated in /etc/rc?.d/*
[03:10] <amphi> Eleaf: the php script is running as www-data
[03:10] <Eleaf> hmm
[03:10] <GNULinuxGeek> Thanx, goodnight
[03:10] <Eleaf> it doesn't seem to have permission to edit those files though uploaded through itsself
[03:11] <DBO> does anybody know anything about evolution-data-server eating tons of RAM?
[03:11] <Xenguy> bpont: the dmesg output should simply be re-directed to a file
[03:11] <DBO> (im sorry, I cant find anything about this...)
[03:11] <swoop> bimberi, illusions  the system had frozen :X
[03:11] <Eleaf> DBO, how much is tons?
[03:11] <brenner> twirpie: have you tried the wine channel?
[03:11] <swoop> bimberi,  would you mind to give me the link again? i've lost it... had to restart :O
[03:11] <DBO> Elead 380MB
[03:11] <twirpie> there is a channel?
[03:11] <bimberi> swoop: sure - http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:11] <swoop> bimberi,  thanks :D
[03:11] <amphi> bpont: the message you are talking about is from an init script
[03:12] <amphi> bpont: it might be ntpdate failing, for example
[03:12] <swoop> now saving :D
[03:12] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, Do an ls -l of the file. Who is owner, group and what permissions show?
[03:12] <Eleaf> yar ic56, amphi dt-oz-gc .  lol, any ideas?
[03:12] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, yes
[03:12] <brenner> twirpie: #winehq apparently
[03:12] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, hold on a sec.  let me upload a file and check
[03:12] <illusions> bimberi sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:12] <illusions> dpkg: error processing skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb (--install):
[03:12] <illusions>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[03:12] <illusions> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:12] <illusions>  skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:13] <twirpie> thanks
[03:13] <bpont> amphi: OK...can i take a look at it?
[03:13] <cafuego_> Please don't paste
[03:13] <amphi> bpont: at what?
[03:13] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, owner, www-data | group, www-data
[03:13] <bpont> amphi: is there a log somewhere?  of the error messages i saw at startup
[03:13] <ic56> Eleaf: before we explore suid options, how about getting the blend user to chown the file to itself?  Can the user who is running the program su to chown?
[03:13] <Eleaf> -r----x--t
[03:13] <amphi> bpont: init script messages are not stored for posterity AFAIK
[03:13] <Eleaf> ic56, the blend user can't chown, it has the least amount of permissions.
[03:13] <I_am_the_cure> my pc upstairs is wireless How do I get network printer too work?? It does not print no matter what login & pass I use
[03:14] <bimberi> illusions: (1 line maximum paste, otherwise pastebin) is the file in the directory you ran the command in (confirm with 'ls')?
[03:14] <Eleaf> ic56, this is a public project, with random users connecting, I don't want to give them root privelages
[03:14] <Eleaf> ic56, (Think of it as a public ftp server)
[03:14] <ic56> Eleaf: or how about having the creator of the file (php) changing the file perms to 777.  would that be acceptable or do you need privacy?
[03:14] <illusions> bimberi i think my terminal is not set to desk top what was this comannd 'cd Desktop'?
[03:14] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, ok, that is expected for anything (ie a php script run by the webserver)
[03:14] <bpont> amphi: i just want to write down what i'm seeing, but it passes by too quickly...i can't find these same messages in the output of dmesg
[03:14] <Eleaf> alrigt
[03:14] <bimberi> illusions: yes, do that first
[03:14] <Eleaf> ic56, I tried
[03:14] <Eleaf> ic56, it doesn't have permission to do so ;(
[03:14] <ic56> Eleaf: what runs as user `blend'?
[03:14] <amphi> bpont: they won't be there if they are caused by init scripts
[03:15] <I_am_the_cure> is there an easyer way 2 detect networked printer?
[03:15] <cafuego_> bpont: the kernel ones are in `dmesg'
[03:15] <cafuego_> bpont: The ones dispalyed by starting services are indeed not saved; though by restarting services you'll probably recreate them
[03:15] <Eleaf> ic56, the people who log remotely into the computer.
[03:15] <amphi> bpont: you could try ctrl-s when the message appears
[03:15] <illusions> bimberi just like this cd Desktop?
[03:15] <I_am_the_cure> alcaholics :P
[03:15] <ic56> Eleaf: the creator of the file lacks permission to change file permissions?  not possible.
[03:15] <bimberi> illusions: yep
[03:15] <bpont> amphi: OK...i'll try that
[03:15] <amphi> bpont: dunno if that works at that stage
[03:15] <Eleaf> it's weird, actually wait
[03:15] <bpont> amphi: what will ctrl-s do?
[03:16] <Eleaf> ic56, the php script can do a chmod(), I don't think it can to a chown() on the file.  Is that possible?
[03:16] <illusions> bimberi ok lets see what happens
[03:16] <amphi> bpont: scroll lock - ctrl-q to release it
[03:16] <swoop> bimberi,  now i must type: sudo dpkg --install skype_1.2.0.l8-lubuntu3_i386.deb ,right?
[03:16] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, cant you add into the php script a command to set the owner, group or permissions to whatever you want? I am not into php, but surely this is possible.
[03:16] <cafuego_> bpont: The only real way would be to run the console on a serial port and capture any output there to a file via a nullmodem-connected cable.  (or by hacking init scripts to dump all outout to file)
[03:16] <bpont> amphi: ahhhh...brilliant...ok...i'll try it
[03:16] <bimberi> swoop: yes
[03:16] <swoop> okkk let me try
[03:16] <cafuego_> dt-oz-gc: No, you can't.
[03:16] <DBO> Eleaf, no ideas?
[03:16] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, you can do chown and chmod.  It doesn't have permission to do chmod though
[03:17] <Eleaf> DBO, I'm not sure, I don't use it
[03:17] <DBO> :-/
[03:17] <DBO> k
[03:17] <bpont> cafuego: thanks, but that's a bit beyond my abilities
[03:17] <amphi> cafuego_: scroll lock won't be working yet?
[03:17] <cafuego_> dt-oz-gc: You can run php-cgi though and tell apache to run the php scripts as a specific user
[03:17] <Eleaf> muh?
[03:17] <cafuego_> amphi: It should be, but it may also be completely ignored
[03:17] <Eleaf> how do you do that cafuego_ ?
[03:17] <ic56> Eleaf: so the public users upload a file via the web, thus the file ends up being owned by www-data and then they login through some other facility as user ?eben? and need to access that same file?
[03:18] <amphi> cafuego_: heh - I've never tried it at that stage
[03:18] <cafuego_> Eleaf: there'sa  suid php thing (but it requires the php cgi, won't work with the module)
[03:18] <Eleaf> ic56, a file is uploaded through a web interface using php.  The file is saved in to /home/blend and blend ftp's in.  (the ftp stuff is done using python).  It then needs to download the file, delete, and manipulate the file.
[03:19] <ic56> Eleaf: that's correct.  chown to abritrary users can only be done by root on a unix system
[03:19] <ic56>  chmod can only be done by the file's owner.
[03:19] <Eleaf> ic56, oh oh.
[03:19] <Eleaf> ic56, ok that makes sense.  How should I go about changing the owner of the file then, without having to become root?
[03:19] <swoop> bimberi,  what's next?
[03:20] <bimberi> swoop: did it install? ok?
[03:20] <cafuego_> Eleaf: Of course, you *could* write a small wrapper for chown in C and suid that.
[03:20] <swoop> bimberi, yes... maybe lol
[03:20] <Eleaf> cafuego_, hmm...
[03:20] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, so get the script to do a chmod u+wx ... I think it then has full control of the file, because its already the owner
[03:20] <ic56> Eleaf: a better way would be to run the ftp daemon as www-data rather than as blend.
[03:20] <bimberi> swoop: Applications -> Internet -> Skype (I think)
[03:20] <Eleaf> dt-oz-gc, can it then chown then?
[03:20] <goinup> hi -- i am curious is there a version of ubuntu made to boot from a usb-hdd/cf card?
[03:21] <micmac> Hi all
[03:21] <Eleaf> ic56, I see.  Or could I give the user "blend" permission to access files owned by www-data?
[03:21] <cafuego_> Eleaf: OR... you ignore the user IDs and make sure the group can also move/deletye/edit the file.
[03:21] <swoop> yes! you're right :D
[03:21] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, read ic56 - I agree - chown to abritrary users can only be done by root on a unix system
[03:21] <micmac> What version of Wine does Ubuntu use?
[03:21] <ic56> Eleaf: you didn't answer my earlier Q: do you mind making the file 777?
[03:21] <swoop> bimberi,  yes!!! opened... let me test if it is ok! :)
[03:21] <cafuego_> !info wine
[03:21] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[03:22] <Eleaf> ic56, I don't mind making the file 777
[03:22] <treyh0> why is the k3b setup tool window blank?
[03:22] <Eleaf> thanks cafuego_ and dt-oz-gc
[03:22] <swoop> bimberi,  now i may install nvidia and nforce2 drivers :(
[03:22] <Eleaf> lol
[03:22] <Eleaf> bar
[03:23] <thomas> anyone here use cedega?im having a problem when i try to install a game setup.exe thru the install button i browse tot he cdrom and choose the setup.exe but wen i hit OK and go to click continue i see that i cannot click it only cancel flukeing my whole mood of installin windows game on linux
[03:23] <bimberi> !tell swoop about nvidia
[03:23] <ic56> Eleaf: then just do that.  user blend will then be able to read/write/execute the file.  If you want to restrict access a bit, you could also make users www-data and blend belong to a common group and restrict the file to 770.
[03:23] <ic56> Eleaf: (and the php script should chgrp the file)
[03:23] <treyh0> !tell me about why k3b setup dialog is blank and i can't do anything in "k3bsetup2"
[03:23] <dt-oz-gc> Eleaf, chmod u+w is all your script should need.. Its written a file that it has only read permission on... Hmm, what is the original question? :-)
[03:23] <Eleaf> ic56, let me try and see if blend can access the files when it is 777 with what I need it to do.
[03:23] <iGotNoTime> can anyone help give information that is accurate about installing jre1.5 to ubuntu?
[03:24] <zerokun> sigh, got my problem solved, but i know people have complained about using dual head displays with gnome for tv usage, well my tv is displaying only about a quarter of the vide enlarged
[03:24] <zerokun> anyone know how to fix that?
[03:24] <swoop> bimberi,  yes!! thanks!! :)
[03:24] <Eleaf> hold on ;_
[03:24] <swoop> bimberi,  now i'm talking with my friend in skype :P
[03:24] <illusions> bimberi ok i almost got it i beleave
[03:24] <byteshack> does dapper not have an mplayer package?
[03:24] <iGotNoTime> I have tried 5 different pages and it is not correct information
[03:24] <nickrud> iGotNoTime, java is pretty simple really
[03:24] <byteshack> apt-cache search mplayer does not seem to find it
[03:24] <bimberi> swoop: yw :)
[03:24] <zerokun> i used add/remove for mplayer
[03:24] <illusions> Swoop rub it in why don't  you!!!
[03:24] <zerokun> worked like a charm
[03:25] <bimberi> illusions: where are you at?
[03:25] <swoop> illusions,  :D:D pilho.swp is my id
[03:25] <nickrud> iGotNoTime, (<Tab> means press the Tab Key) In the directory where you downloaded the sun jre, type sudo aptitude install java-package ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre<Tab> ; sudo dpkg -i sun<Tab>
[03:25] <byteshack> zerokun: add/remove? Is that a gnome thing? I have xfce
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 does not work
[03:25] <illusions> Swoop just put sault in my cuts
[03:25] <zerokun> ah
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> fakeroot :P
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> I missed that
[03:25] <zerokun> yeah, as far as i know, since i havent used xfce
[03:25] <Eleaf> yikes
[03:25] <swoop> bimberi,  :)
[03:25] <iGotNoTime> thanks nickrud
[03:25] <Eleaf> ic56, permission denied, even when it is 777
[03:25] <illusions> bimberi ok i am at the errors like you said
[03:25] <nickrud> iGotNoTime, yw
[03:25] <ic56> Eleaf: what??
[03:25] <swoop> bimberi,  why doesn't ubuntu read ntfs partitions?
[03:25] <Eleaf> ic56, I think when it tries to remove the file
[03:26] <bimberi> illusions: 'sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt'
[03:26] <illusions> bimberi pl
[03:26] <ic56> Eleaf: file removal is not controlled by the perms of the file itself but by the perms of its parent directory.
[03:26] <bimberi> swoop: it can.  Here comes another factoid ...
[03:26] <Eleaf> does that seem to be 777?
[03:26] <bimberi> !tell swoop about ntfs