[10:06] <AskUbuntu> Q: Aquaris E 4.5 Ubuntu Edition && How to SSH into the phone via Wifi or USB? | http://askubuntu.com/q/599805
[10:31] <Theodin> Does anyone know what Ubuntu release I need to connect the Aquaris to my PC? 12.04 elementary doesnt work.
[11:34] <Briankan> welp :( it's more than a month since i can't run a devel-proposed image due to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1423459
[11:37] <cwayne> mardy, ping!
[12:00] <cwayne> Elleo, hiya
[12:02] <brunch875> Is this where ubuntu phone developers communicate? It feels rather... silent.
[12:04] <Tassadar> it's sunday
[12:04] <Tassadar> some might even say sunday morning
[12:04]  * cwayne would say that :)
[12:05] <brunch875> Well, getting two responses it isn't that silent after all :) Good ol' irc
[12:06] <cwayne> heh
[12:25] <lobster> hello, is it possible to link the calendar from ubuntu touch with (from KDE) KOrganizer
[12:26] <brunch875> Now that's what I call patience
[13:06] <brunch875> awww I want to turn my bq phone into write-read mode to toy around with apt-get but I'm scared I'll break it
[13:06] <brunch875> Just how hard can I brick it? Will I always be able to recue from adb/fastboot?
[13:09] <cheeseboy> brunch875, installing things fine but beaware anything that uses X doesn't work
[13:10] <cheeseboy> as long as u aren't deleteing shit its highly improable ull break anything
[13:10] <brunch875> That's reassuring. I toy around on my desktop knowing that I can just plug the LiveUSB and format everything in case anything goes wrong.
[13:11] <brunch875> I wanted to know ifI could mess up my phone to a point that it won't listen to USB connection anymore
[13:12] <brunch875> I still remember that android a friend gave me because it was completely locked down, ignored adb and fastboot
[13:13] <brunch875> some "protection" crap HTC plugged into it rendered it unusable
[13:13] <brunch875> so he flashed cyanogenmod and it wouldn't boot nor accept USB connection anymore
[13:16] <Elleo> cwayne: heya?
[13:16] <cody__> hi there. I'm a noob trying to install Ubuntu on a backup drive on my desktop. My only problem right now is: I can't read the Ubuntu install instructions on the screen. The display is a bit out of whack. Is there an easy fix..so I can actually see what I'm doing?
[13:16] <popey> brunch875: also, don't apt-get upgrade, that'll almost certainly make it hard to use
[13:16] <cwayne> Elleo, hey, just wondering if cutespotify was using media-hub, I saw someone on reddit saying music shut off when the screen turned off
[13:17] <popey> cody__: you probably want #ubuntu
[13:17] <Elleo> cwayne: I've added /custom stuff to our proposed stories for our team's next sprint by the way, will find out tomorrow whether it actually gets scheduled for this cycle though
[13:17] <cody__> 10-4 thanks
[13:17] <cwayne> Elleo, perfect!
[13:17] <Elleo> cwayne: nope, unfortunately it's impossible to use media hub for spotify stuff
[13:17] <cwayne> Elleo, ah, that's too bad
[13:17] <Elleo> cwayne: libspotify doesn't provide access to music files in any sensible way, it just provides a constant stream of raw audio packets
[13:21] <cwayne> ah, yeah
[13:22] <AnAnt> Hello, are the drivers for E4.5 phone free ?
[13:23] <AnAnt> in android, the painful issue were that almost all phones had non-free drivers for WiFi, GPS & so on, hence making the jobs of porting custom ROMs a headache
[13:24] <Tassadar> AnAnt: I don't know for sure, but I doubt it. Ubuntu Touch uses a container with Android to run the drivers on other phones, and I think it's the same on that phone, since it was originally with android
[13:24] <Tassadar> makes porting ubuntu touch a headache as well, manufacturers simply don't make any other drivers
[13:25] <brunch875> is there even a difference between the E4.5 ubuntu edition and the android one?
[13:26] <Tassadar> it should be the same HW
[13:31] <brunch875> I hope some split of money from the BQ sales goes to the ubuntu developers
[13:32] <brunch875> that's the only reason I bought the new E4.5; otherwise I would have gotten the bigger one and flashed ubuntu to it
[13:33] <cwayne> rsalveti, did that initrd fix ever land?
[13:33] <AnAnt> so, is the Ubuntu phone upgradable via apt-get ? or only by flashing pre-built images ?
[13:34] <cwayne> AnAnt, it technically is, but that will break OTA updates
[13:34] <popey> yeah, better using OTA updates
[13:34] <popey> they're tested, apt-get isn't
[13:34] <AnAnt> erm, and can I download apps using apt-get or that would break OTA too ?
[13:34] <popey> you have to make it writable to do that
[13:34] <brunch875> which breaks OTA
[13:35] <popey> making writable doesn't _break_ ota
[13:35] <popey> as such
[13:35] <brunch875> by break I meant disable
[13:35] <popey> you can still OTA, but you don't get delta updates, you get full updates every time
[13:35] <popey> it doest
[13:35] <popey> nope
[13:35] <brunch875> does it not?
[13:35] <popey> no
[13:35] <popey> it just makes them less good :)
[13:35] <brunch875> woah hey, me spreading misinformation!
[13:35] <AnAnt> ok, that doesn't seem much of an issue
[13:35] <popey> just don't upgrade or dist-upgrade
[13:36] <popey> that likely _will_ "break" it
[13:36] <popey> in a way that you can unbreak it by reflashing
[13:36] <popey> but break in terms of unity probably wont start
[13:36] <popey> or it starts but you can't see anything, or touch breaks, or wifi breaks or ... etc
[13:36] <AnAnt> oh !
[13:36] <popey> but "apt-get install nmap" would probably be fine.
[13:36] <AnAnt> btw, anyone tried gnome-shell on ubuntu phone ? or is that an overkill ?
[13:36] <popey> hahah
[13:36] <popey> no
[13:36] <popey> that wont work
[13:37] <popey> gnome shell needs wayland or x
[13:37] <popey> we have neither on the phone
[13:37] <AnAnt> popey: MIR ?
[13:37] <popey> yes, we have mir
[13:37] <AnAnt> and wayland doesn't work with ubuntu phone ?
[13:38] <popey> i dont think we have ever tried
[13:38] <popey> so proably confident to say "no"
[13:38] <brunch875> is it even possible to get wayland on the desktop?
[13:38] <popey> !info wayland
[13:38] <popey> bah, stupid bot
[13:38] <brunch875> haha
[13:39] <brunch875> I thought so...
[13:39] <popey> its probably weston or something
[13:39] <popey> !info weston
[13:39] <popey> there you go
[13:39] <brunch875> ooo
[13:40] <brunch875> I wonder if it's possible to apt-get git
[13:40] <brunch875> doesn't the ARM architecture get in the way?
[13:42] <popey> in the way of what?
[13:42] <popey> proprietary x86 only apps, sure.
[13:43] <popey> There are x86 tablets and phones though :)
[13:43] <popey> so a tip I would suggest
[13:43] <popey> don't apt-get stuff, if it's just a single binary you need...
[13:43] <popey> e.g. I wanted ncdu on my phone, but didn't want to go read-write, so instead I grabbed the ncdu armhf debian package from the archive..
[13:44] <brunch875> that's perhaps the most sane advice, really
[13:44] <popey> unpacked it (on my desktop) with "ar -x foo.deb" and then found the binary and stuck it in /home/phablet/bin on my phone
[13:45] <popey> if you create ~/bin on the phone it will be added to the path - just like the desktop
[13:45] <popey> so stick all your utilities in there
[13:46] <popey> i have ar, bc and ncdu in my ~/bin
[13:46] <popey> ncdu is super handy for seeing what's eating up disk space
[13:46] <brunch875> that's handy!
[13:46] <brunch875> although I hate polluting home with programs :P
[13:46] <popey> heh
[13:46] <brunch875> I'm used to putting almost everything in /opt
[13:46] <popey> understandable.
[13:47] <popey> you could do that
[13:47] <popey> but you'd need to modify your path
[13:47] <popey> good suggestion actually.
[13:47] <popey> Also, I have put my laptop (and my home server) ssh key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, and backup my phone over ssh using rsync, every day
[13:48] <popey> useful when you don't have dropbox uploading your photos
[13:49] <brunch875> sounds complicated. The only way I know of 'enabling' ssh is by installing via apt-get openssh-server
[13:50] <brunch875> but I'm still a young padawan
[13:50] <popey> hah
[13:50] <popey> aren't we all
[13:50] <brunch875> I guess we are :)
[13:50] <cwayne> :)
[13:51]  * popey wanders off to play minecraft for a bit
[14:07] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti, ping.
[14:10] <AnAnt> erm, why install a deb using 'ar -x' instead of dpkg -i ?
[14:11] <AnAnt> this too needs the 'read-write' thing ?
[14:12] <brunch875> dpkg is a package manager, ar is... just to unzip?
[14:13] <brunch875> I've never used it, but from the man pages it looks like just a zipping tool
[14:13] <AnAnt> yes
[14:14] <brunch875> dpkg modifies part of the read-only stuff
[14:14] <brunch875> the idea behind using ar is to unzip your program in your home folder and launch it from there
[14:14] <AnAnt> I see
[14:16] <brunch875> correct me if I'm wrong, but apt-get just makes it easier to use dpkg
[14:16] <popey> AnAnt: ar -x unpacks it
[14:16] <popey> to get the bianries out
[14:19] <popey> I like that this channel suddenly became busier in the last few days since people received devices
[14:19] <brunch875> it's great, yeah. Once I received mine I wanted to become a dev
[14:19] <brunch875> but that'll have to wait until summer if I don't want to fail college :\
[14:20] <cwayne> lol
[14:21] <popey> heh
[14:21] <popey> wise
[14:21] <popey> We don't advocate people playing with stuff and flunking out. Plenty of time for playing with stufff later :)
[14:26] <brunch875> /usr/local is read-only
[14:26] <brunch875> and yet empty!
[14:28] <cwayne> mardy, heya, are there any examples of using basic auth with OA
[14:58] <dobey> AnAnt: ar is just an archive format, used by dpkg to construct the .deb file itself. extracting the contents of a .deb to a location other than it was built to install to though, may result in problems.
[14:59] <AnAnt> yeah, especially if it uses data files from /usr/share/<pkg>
[14:59] <dobey> brunch875: / is read-only. only a few things which need to writable, are mounted as such. if you really want to play with installation of random packages on the phone, the best way to do that is to create a chroot in ~phablet/ and then do things inside that chroot
[15:00] <dobey> AnAnt: it depends on how it finds the files. most things are built with paths defined at build time though, and the only way to change them is to rebuild with different paths defined
[15:05] <brunch875> yeah, /usr/local also belongs to root on the desktop. I thought it belonged to the user
[15:07] <brunch875> I've never used chroot before. Perhaps it's the time to learn how to do so now.
[15:07] <brunch875> thanks for pointing that out ;)
[15:09] <lobster> hello
[15:10] <brunch875> hi!
[15:10] <lobster> is it possible to sync the calendar from ubuntu touch to the calendar from ubuntu?
[15:11] <brunch875> I know a way!
[15:11] <brunch875> you can use google calendar and then read from it on ubuntu desktop
[15:11] <brunch875> and also on ubuntu touch
[15:12] <brunch875> at least that's how I keep track of my schedule
[15:12] <lobster> how is the way; can you describe in a fwe words please !
[15:12] <brunch875> I assume you have a gmail account
[15:13] <brunch875> you can play with the google calendar at calendar.google.com
[15:13] <lobster> how is the way; can you describe in a fwe words please  without google only by direct cable !
[15:14] <brunch875> you can add your google account from settings in both ubuntu desktop and touch
[15:14] <brunch875> it will show on the ubuntu calendar for both
[15:14] <dobey> there is no easy way to sync the calendar directly with a PC at the moment
[15:14] <brunch875> I have no idea...
[15:14] <lobster> thank very much
[15:17] <ogra_> dobey, can syncevolution on commandline import ical and vcard ?
[15:18]  * ogra_ thought it could
[15:18] <dobey> ogra_: probably, but we don't have anything in place to automate that or even make it remotely easy to do. and evolution's contacts are stored in sqlite, not vcard, so that makes it a bit more complicated.
[15:19] <ogra_> true
[15:19] <dobey> ogra_: it also theoretically has support for owncloud, which would be another option, if that app ever gets written/working
[15:19] <ogra_> but i think it is technically possible
[15:19] <dobey> oh yes, definitely technically possible
[15:19] <ogra_> (without making the system writable or installing anything)
[15:20] <dobey> i exported a vcard on my pre, imported to a new address book in evolution, and then pushed that contacts.db onto the phone, to get my contacts migrated over
[15:20] <ogra_> we should collect such hacks and ship them as scripts on the phone :)
[15:20] <dobey> ogra_: well, it probably will require installing terminal app, or enabling developer mode and installing phablet-tools on the PC
[15:21] <dobey> we should just fix it so contacts/calendar sync works when you plug the phone into your PC :)
[15:21] <ogra_> indeed, but that will still take a year :P
[15:22] <ogra_> and during that year you will have people follow distro docs, making their system writable and installing random debs to achieve the task ... so having a script collection would be better inho
[15:23] <dobey> they will probably search forums and do much worse than that :)
[15:23] <popey> ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-terminal-app/ubuntu-commands contribs welcome
[15:24] <brunch875> I'll behave, I promise :p
[15:24] <ogra_> popey, neat !
[15:25] <ogra_> brunch875, no reason to behave, we want you to go wild :)  ... i dont want to have my mom g wild to get their contacts over though :)
[15:25] <ogra_> s/thei/her/
[15:25] <ogra_> (becaue she will all me ans ask me to fix the phone she broke when following some forum)
[15:25] <ogra_> *call me
[15:25] <brunch875> hah
[15:26] <ogra_> YAY !
[15:27]  * ogra_ has his alternative webapp containet implementation fully working :)
[15:27] <brunch875> hoorray!
[15:27] <ogra_> no more top bar in my webapps ... and the dekko bottom menu instead fo navigating
[15:27] <ogra_> (so also no more jiggly jumping of the page underneath your finger when the toolbar expands and collapses)
[15:28] <brunch875> great great!
[15:28] <brunch875> that jiggly jumping really annoys me!
[15:28] <ogra_> me too ... and i *hate* having the back button at the top left
[15:29] <brunch875> what I wonder is where the swipe from bottom went
[15:29] <ogra_> that is what my implementation uses
[15:30] <ogra_> you pull up from the bottom and get a navigation menu ... using the design of the dekko bottom menu
[15:30]  * ogra_ needs to roll that into one of his apps to demo it
[15:39] <brunch875> hmph... bluetooth isn't complete, is it?
[15:39] <brunch875> I'm trying to add a bluetooth keyboard which is detected but I can't click on it to pair it
[15:44] <ogra_> in case anyone is fancy trying out a new webapp container concept ... http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/google-plus.ogra_0.1_all.click ... (doesnt use the system auth, you need to log in on first connect)
[15:45] <brunch875> sure! how do I install it? Just drag into /opt?
[15:45] <ogra_> push it to the device ...
[15:45] <ogra_> then: adb shell pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /path/to/click
[15:46] <brunch875> let's see if I'm skilled enough...
[15:46] <ogra_> you should see a bunch of progress bars ... once they are done, pull down the app scope to refresh it ... there will be an ugly black/white globe icon with a mouse pointer in your app list
[15:46] <ogra_> (saying google-plus underneath)
[15:48] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti, ping
[15:50] <brunch875> oi! grep links your name to cannons and soldiers
[15:50] <brunch875> neat :P
[15:50] <ogra_> lol
[15:51] <ogra_> yeah, i have quite a few webapps in the store :)
[15:52] <brunch875> wow amaga it looks amazing
[15:52] <brunch875> cheers man
[15:52] <ogra_> :)
[15:52] <brunch875> kudos on you
[15:52] <ogra_> popey, in case you are interested http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/google-plus.ogra_0.1_all.click ;)
[15:52] <brunch875> double kudos for teaching me pkcon + push
[15:52] <ogra_> (it definitely wins the contest for the ugliest icon)
[15:56] <brunch875> such an inspiration
[15:57] <brunch875> tomorrow I'm going to shake my teacher to teach ubuntu too next year instead of just android
[15:57] <ogra_> well, its all stolen cde from others, just newly combined
[15:57] <ogra_> *code
[15:57] <ogra_> i only wrote the glue
[15:57] <brunch875> extra points then
[15:58] <brunch875> talks great about ubuntu as a development environment
[16:03] <amahoola> hi
[16:03] <brunch875> hello!
[16:03] <amahoola> just recieved my bq :D
[16:03] <brunch875> Woohoo! Enjoy!
[16:03] <amahoola> thanks, its really awesome
[16:04] <amahoola> only i want to install cmatrix so i can brag, but it wont let me. does somebody know if i have to enable sudo or something?
[16:04] <ogra_> pushed the code to lp:~ogra/junk/alternate-webapp-container ... in case anyone is interested
[16:05] <brunch875> well, stuff owned by root is "read only" so not even sudo will work to do that
[16:05] <DonkeyHotei> it would be nice to run native code instead of just webapps
[16:05] <brunch875> you can make it read-write
[16:06] <brunch875> but making it read-write disables delta OTA updates
[16:06] <brunch875> it's better if you download cmatrix to your home folder and run it from there
[16:07] <amahoola> mhh, oke i will just do that then :P
[16:07] <DonkeyHotei> not having dalvik gives a phone a lot more processing power, but for what?
[16:07] <brunch875> for what? for blazing speed!
[16:07] <DonkeyHotei> speed? of webapps?
[16:07] <brunch875> my old android had better specs
[16:07] <brunch875> and was slower
[16:07] <brunch875> even launching the web
[16:08] <amahoola> what is Dalvik? some kind of vm?
[16:08] <brunch875> I even tried launching a ton of programs at the same time and it wound't slow down
[16:08] <DonkeyHotei> amahoola: java
[16:09] <amahoola> aaah
[16:10] <amahoola> is there a way to turn off the screen dim after a minute? its kind off irritating when i am watching a youtube video..
[16:10] <brunch875> yeah, head to settings
[16:11] <brunch875> wait, that's for locking
[16:11] <brunch875> hmm
[16:11] <amahoola> that only changes the time before the screen goes totally black
[16:11] <amahoola> yeah..
[16:17] <ogra_> DonkeyHotei, you are free to write C++ Qt apps
[16:17] <DonkeyHotei> within limits
[16:18] <DonkeyHotei> for example, an irc client would not be possible
[16:18] <ogra_> well, and there is QML ... which is kind of inbetween native and webapp
[16:18] <ogra_> an irc client is surely possible if you offload a part of it somewhere else ... since you want push-service support anyway
[16:19] <ogra_> i guess a combo of a bip server for which you write a push-service backend that can notify you together with a UI client that hoooks into the bip server would work just fne
[16:19] <DonkeyHotei> offloading != running native on ubuntu
[16:20] <ogra_> well, you can only "run" within tehbounds of the phone OS
[16:20] <ogra_> and that means your app gets suspended when not focused
[16:21] <ogra_> to use long runnning bits you need to use a system service ... which in case of messaging (IRC) is the push service
[16:23] <ogra_> indeed you can always hack your phone to do everything natively ... nobody stops you :)
[16:23] <ogra_> but apps that go into the store have to operate within the boundaries ...
[16:26] <DonkeyHotei> some of the early criticisms of firefox os centered on needing internet all the time
[16:30] <ogra_> well ... for certain tasks you need internet ...
[16:31] <ogra_> and i guess 90% of what yu do on a smartphone uses internet nowadays ... no matter which OS
[16:34] <DonkeyHotei> but is there really any point to using a webapp over using the same page in a browser?
[16:35] <brunch875> hmm, I've been thinking about that. It could be that the webapp data is entirely local.
[16:35] <brunch875> So if you made a game in HTML5 you would only have to click on the app icon
[16:36] <brunch875> a good question would whether to assimilate the browser and the webapps together as the same thing or not
[16:38] <brunch875> I agree that it's kind of pointless to have the facebook app as a plain link to m.facebook
[16:38] <brunch875> especially if the internet is bad and the web stops loading halfway through
[16:38] <brunch875> so you need to F5
[16:40] <DonkeyHotei> i cannot imagine what can make that be considered a good idea
[16:41] <brunch875> well, I've got to admit it's handy to have the icon around :D
[16:41] <brunch875> but I'd rather have it under a new category which launches the full browser and not just stripped down
[16:42] <DonkeyHotei> yes
[16:43] <brunch875> but same goes for android webapps. So it isn't really an "OS issue" but rather something centered on the app itself. It's good to have the capabilities.
[16:43] <DonkeyHotei> android isn't big on webapps, they're mostly java
[16:45] <brunch875> yeah, I agree most apps should run on qt
[16:45] <brunch875> but it's like that now, isn't it?
[16:47]  * brunch875 waddles towards gluttony
[17:02] <Bjoern_G> Hi folks... Could you please tell me, where to open bug reports for the BQ UbuntuPhone ???
[17:02] <DonkeyHotei> launchpad
[17:03] <ilario> +1 IMHO an app as interface for reportbug would be great
[17:03] <Bjoern_G> There are serveral problems exist (Bluetooth, Telegram, CoreOS, etc... ) looking for a Launchpad-site, but nothing found so far...
[17:04] <Bjoern_G> @ ilario: great idea... but where to link the app reports to ???
[17:06] <ilario> what do you mean?
[17:08] <Bjoern_G> Well, of course the bug report application needs to fill a website...  :-)
[17:08] <Bjoern_G> Is it:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=avengers     ?
[17:08] <ilario> such an app would use the default target site for reportbug :) so, I think, launchpad
[17:11] <dadexix86> Hello. I am the bq device. When I change the net type (2G-3G-WIFI) I receive a notification from "Voicemail" saying that I have<PHONE_NUMBER> voicemail messages. Is it a known bug? How can I report it?
[17:12] <dadexix86> Obviously I am not the bq device, I am _using_ the bq device, sorry for the typo :)
[17:13] <brunch875> woah... does this happen when you change net as in when you lose wifi connectivity?
[17:13] <brunch875> that doesn't happen to me...
[17:14] <brunch875> do you get this as an SMS?
[17:15] <ilario> (on my previous comment 's/reportbug/ubuntu-bug/' that is actually installed on my phone, but only CLI)
[17:16] <dadexix86> brunch875, not an SMS, just the notification
[17:17] <dadexix86> brunch875, when I turn down wifi and switch to 2/3G, when I switch between 2G and 3G and when I go back to wi-fi. All of these actions generate this notification (and I do not know where it comes from, the title of the notification - the boldface one- is just "Voicemail")
[17:18] <brunch875> crazy, that doesn't happen to me
[17:20] <dadexix86> brunch875, yes it is crazy :) so, how do I report the bug?
[17:21] <brunch875> you can try launchpad
[17:21] <brunch875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[17:22] <brunch875> although I'm not sure there's a specific one for ubuntu touch
[17:24] <dadexix86> brunch875, the "Report a bug" link sends me to the help page that says to report a bug through apport :S How do I report a bug without going through apport?
[17:25] <brunch875> euh... I'm not really sure
[17:25] <brunch875> any devs awake?
[17:25] <dadexix86> brunch875, I asked now on the ubuntu-bugs IRC
[17:25] <dadexix86> brunch875, hope someone will answer ;)
[17:26] <brunch875> Be sure to tell me when you find out so I can tell others which ask later!
[17:28] <ilario> before filing a new bug check that it hasn't already been reported, for example try to check this list https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu?field.searchtext=voicemail
[17:28] <brunch875> it looks like there is one
[17:28] <brunch875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1353379
[17:28] <brunch875> thanks, ubot5
[17:31] <dadexix86> thanks ilario , brunch875 and obviously also ubot5
[17:31] <brunch875> :D
[17:32] <ilario> :D
[17:36] <ilario> btw dadexix86 send a bug report :) try like this: install terminal app; execute in the terminal "ubuntu-bug ofono"
[17:39] <dadexix86> ilario the terminal asks for a password :S
[17:39] <brunch875> it's the same as your lock
[17:40] <dadexix86> brunch875, great
[17:43] <brunch875> oh gods, java + sqlite is killing me. Is there no sprintf here?
[17:45] <ilario> dadexix86 insert as a password the pin that you use for unlocking the screensaver, for me works
[17:52] <Bjoern_G> Here are the main URLs for bug reports:
[17:52] <Bjoern_G> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=avengers         https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers          https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bugs
[17:53] <dadexix86> Bjoern_G, but Avengers isn't just for the Nexus devices?
[17:53] <Bjoern_G> Dont know... If I connect BQ Aquarius via USB to my computer, "lsusb" shows "Nexus_4"
[17:55] <Bjoern_G> Try "adb devices -l"    --> the same output
[17:55] <ilario> rly? my lsusb shows no name, but lsusb -v prints "Aquaris_E4.5"
[17:57] <brunch875> my devices -l also says nexus4 :p
[17:57] <dadexix86> here I have same output as ilario
[17:58] <Bjoern_G> Could you connect your phone via USB 2.0 ?? For me, only USB 3.0 is working
[17:58] <brunch875> I'm 2.0 only
[17:58] <brunch875> old pc
[17:58] <Bjoern_G> Good for Linux... :-)
[17:58] <brunch875> even runs starcraft 2 faster than windows using wine
[17:58] <brunch875> how ironic
[17:59] <Bjoern_G> Is someone using Telegram Messenger ???
[17:59] <brunch875> me!
[17:59] <ilario> I'm 2.0 only
[17:59] <dadexix86> Bjoern_G me :)
[17:59] <Bjoern_G> @ ilario: Did you get the notification sounds working ?
[17:59] <Bjoern_G> + dadexi86
[18:00] <brunch875> ah! I get it now
[18:00] <adrian47> Another source based on cm11 could be good idea, as there is only cm port on my device
[18:00] <ilario> @ Bjoern_G I still have to test that...
[18:01] <Bjoern_G> My notification sounds are not working for telegram  :-(
[18:01] <brunch875> the adb which comes with android sdk doesn't list my phablet
[18:01] <brunch875> but the adb in the system repositories does
[18:01] <dadexix86> Bjoern_G, next time I receive one I'll pay attention
[18:02] <Bjoern_G> @ brunch875: Try to use the adb tool from sdk PPA
[18:02] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Theres notification sounds? I've never heard notification sounds on my Nexus 7, granted I don't get many but regardless xD
[18:03] <Bjoern_G> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:04] <brunch875> I'll try later, right now I'm slightly tight on time
[18:06] <Bjoern_G> Has anyone managed to pair BQ Aquarius with bluetooth car audio ???
[18:06] <brunch875> I tried to pair it with my bluetooth keyboard
[18:06] <brunch875> no luck
[18:06] <brunch875> detects the keyboard but can't click on it to pair, does nothing
[18:06] <brunch875> makes me glad I'm not an emacs user :D
[18:07] <Bjoern_G> --> BT keyboard remains "grey" in list ???
[18:08] <brunch875> yep
[18:08] <Bjoern_G> me, too.   :-(
[18:09] <Bjoern_G> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/1435044
[18:09] <Bjoern_G> Thats mine...  :-)
[18:10] <brunch875> how do I pull file via ADB when I'm logged in via shell?
[18:10] <brunch875> I want to get the screenshot and share
[18:11] <Bjoern_G> Mom
[18:11] <Bjoern_G> Turn on "developer" mode...
[18:13] <brunch875> I did. I mean, there's no command to push if I'm already logged in via adb shell, right?
[18:13] <brunch875> Nevermind anyway, I used netcat :P
[18:15] <brunch875> it looks like this for me
[18:15] <brunch875> http://imgur.com/KG8UwNW
[18:20] <Bjoern_G> @ brunch875:  This worked for me.....         adb pull /media/phablet/9A15-A3CC/Pictures/com.ubuntu.camera/
[18:20] <Bjoern_G> Pulls all pics to current dir
[18:20] <brunch875> aah can pull folders. that's neat
[18:21] <Bjoern_G> I think, you could define more specific pull options like single files or placeholders, too
[18:21] <brunch875> I just don't enjoy the absolute lack of autocompletion
[18:21] <brunch875> so navigating long paths is cumbersome
[18:23] <Bjoern_G> In Terminal app you could use the TAB option
[18:23] <Bjoern_G> for autocompletion
[18:23] <brunch875> yeah but from desktop using adb...
[18:23]  * popey uses phablet-shell rather than adb shell
[18:23] <popey> much nicer
[18:23] <Bjoern_G> Hmmm...  first do an "adb shell", navigate to path, copy/paste
[18:23] <brunch875> ooo
[18:24] <brunch875> thanks popey
[18:24] <brunch875> I owe you
[18:24] <popey> also, phablet-shell; navigate to folder, then scp files to your other box
[18:24] <popey> rather than send them over the usb cable, send them over wifi
[18:24] <brunch875> that's what I kinda did for this screenshot
[18:24] <brunch875> but with netcat
[18:24] <popey> you can take screenshots from the pc too
[18:24] <popey> phablet-screenshot foo.png
[18:25]  * brunch875 is amazed
[18:27] <Bjoern_G> phablet-shell --serial JUxxxxx    --> "error: closed"    :-(
[18:27] <brunch875> is your phone unlocked?
[18:28] <Bjoern_G> BQ Aquaris E4.5
[18:28] <Bjoern_G> In Terminal I could do an "sudo -i"
[18:28] <brunch875> I mean, you have to be past the lock screen
[18:28] <Bjoern_G> Upps..
[18:29] <Bjoern_G> Oh man... thanks...  How neat!
[19:03] <brunch875> [2015-03-22 20:02:40 - MainActivity] Failed to install MainActivity.apk on device 'JU0XXXXX': Permission denied
[19:03] <brunch875> oops
[19:03] <brunch875> I don't want to know what would have happened if I had disabled readonly
[19:28]  * brunch875 is furious at java + sql ARRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[19:34] <popey> That's common.
[19:35] <brunch875> I just saw in my table the column scoreINTEGER
[19:35] <brunch875> android log isn't too helpful :(
[19:41] <brunch875> ooof... does anyone want to do my homework? :D
[19:44] <ilario> noob question: how do I copy files on the phone? I just plugged it and I was expecting a /dev/sdb1 to appear... Should I use mtpfs?
[19:46] <dadexix86> Bjoern_G, I received right now a message on Telegram, no sound
[19:47] <brunch875> ilario, it WILL appear. You only have to unlock it
[19:47] <brunch875> I mean, it has to be past the lock screen
[19:49] <ilario> unlocking the phone nothing happens, no /dev/sdb1, no news from dmesg
[19:49] <brunch875> that's weird...
[19:49] <brunch875> try enabling developer mode on your phone, maybe :|
[19:52] <ilario> already tried
[20:04] <popey> ilario: we use mtp
[20:04] <popey> you won't see it show up as /dev/sdb1 or anything like that
[20:04] <popey> it shows up automounted for me in nautilus
[20:04] <donno_> hi, i have a nexus 4 and installed ubuntu-touch in dualboot mode on it 4 weeks ago and i have no updates for the system, only for the apps; is it normal?
[20:05] <donno_> the ubuntu-touc based on vivid-vervet
[20:06] <popey> yes
[20:07] <popey> although I haven't used dual-boot myself.
[20:09] <donno_> i mean vivid vervet based ubuntu-touch was not updated since 4 weeks , is it normal?
[20:14] <popey> It's updated daily, but I suspect you need to do something special to update a dual-boot install
[20:17] <Elleo> donno_: the 'stable' vivid channel (devel) hasn't received an update recently, that's all happening in devel-proposed at the moment
[20:17] <Elleo> donno_: because there's a tonne of big changes it isn't currently in a state that meets all the promotion criteria to move an image from devel-proposed to devel
[20:18] <donno_> yes i have installed that one , the newest
[20:18] <donno_> in generel, will be updated later or not?
[20:19] <Elleo> it'll be updated as soon as there proposed image meets the criteria necessary to consider it "stable"(ish)
[20:19] <Elleo> I have no idea about multiboot stuff though
[20:19] <donno_> ok, thx for the info
[20:20] <donno_> i look for updates on settings-update ...
[20:20] <donno_> and UT only updates the apps
[20:20] <popey> yeah, I'm pretty sure the dual boot install is different
[20:20] <popey> but the wiki is currently broken
[20:20] <popey> so I can't confirm that
[20:20] <Elleo> donno_: if you look in settings -> about this phone, what does it say under the "OS section"?
[20:20] <donno_> ok, good to know
[20:21] <popey> ooh, now its working
[20:21] <Elleo> particularly the revision number (r<number>)
[20:21] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation
[20:21] <donno_> wait , i have to boot it, now i am on android
[20:22] <popey> "Ubuntu system updates are not yet supported from the Ubuntu side, but they can be done via the Android app"
[20:22] <popey> there's your answer
[20:22] <donno_> ok, wich android app?
[20:23] <donno_> can i get it on playstore?
[20:23] <donno_> build 20141119
[20:24] <popey> I have no idea, never done this.
[20:24] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation is the documentation for it
[20:25] <donno_> vivid vervet (dev-branch)  20141201-020204
[20:25] <donno_> is my build nr.

[20:25] <donno_> thx popey
[20:26] <Elleo> donno_: sounds like that's irrelevant if multiboot is what's stopping the upgrades
[20:27] <Elleo> donno_: I was looking for the revision number (r<something>) rather than the build number, as if that was a very low number (e.g. 1) it'd indicate you were definitely on devel instead of devel-proposed
[20:27] <Elleo> donno_: but it sounds like everything is done differently for multiboot stuff
[20:28] <donno_> ok, what shell i do , what is the best solution for me to get the best UT for my nexus4 ?
[20:32] <donno_> i have used the nultiboot app on android to install ubuntu touch in dualboot mode
[20:32] <donno_> see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/orig-development/mod-multirom-v24-t2472295
[20:33] <Elleo> donno_: based on the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation it sounds like you need to use that same app to handle updates
[20:33] <Elleo> donno_: can't help you with that though, as I don't dual boot
[20:34] <donno_> ok thx
[20:34] <donno_> will look into it
[20:34] <zasplas> hi everyone :)
[20:35] <popey> hi
[20:35] <zasplas> will tethering be implemented? thanks
[20:35] <popey> yes
[20:35] <popey> at some point
[20:35] <popey> i think ogra_ had a magic script that can do it from the command line
[20:36] <Elleo> I think jgdx has been working on wifi tethering recently (with full gui stuff and everything)
[20:36] <donno_> is there a chat app like pidin for UT ?
[20:36] <donno_> pidgin
[20:37] <donno_> that handle xmpp protokoll ?
[20:37] <popey> not yet.
[20:37] <popey> opportunity for development there
[20:40] <zasplas> Is there any place on the web where i can read the new features that will be implemented soon? thanks (sorry for my english)
[20:44] <popey> zasplas: good question - not that I'm aware of
[20:52] <zasplas> popey: thanks :)
[20:56] <ilario> popey: thanks, I managed to copy files on the phone using jmtpfs
[20:58] <adrian47> Why android logs are so short?
[21:10] <amiguetemelide> god night, i´m trying to conect adb to my bq ubuntu edition from my ubuntu desktop and no device found, i´ve turned on developer mode. someone helps?
[21:10] <brunch875> you can't connect if the device is on the lock screen
[21:11] <brunch875> you have to enter your pin and be someplace like the main scope
[21:12] <amiguetemelide> yes, i´m on the today scope and screen is on
[21:12] <brunch875> does it still not connect via adb?
[21:12] <amiguetemelide> no
[21:13] <brunch875> what exactly is the error message?
[21:13] <Elleo> amiguetemelide: what version of ubuntu are you running on the desktop?
[21:14] <amiguetemelide> the only thing when i turned on/off developer mode is the device hhd appear and desapear in dash like i plug and unplug the phone
[21:14] <amiguetemelide> i´m using 14.04 on my desktop
[21:15] <Elleo> amiguetemelide: that'll be it then; the version of adb in 14.04 doesn't know about the BQ vendor id
[21:15] <Elleo> amiguetemelide: you can add it at run time by creating a file called ~/.android/adb_usb.ini containing the string: 0x2a47
[21:16] <amiguetemelide> ok elleo, i´m going to try that
[21:21] <amiguetemelide> Elleo: the same problem
[21:24] <amiguetemelide> ~$ adb devices returns me:
[21:24] <amiguetemelide> List of devices attached
[21:24] <amiguetemelide> whith no devices
[21:25] <amiguetemelide> i think the problem is my phone conects like multimedia device instead of adb device
[21:27] <nhaines> amiguetemelide: no, it'll connect as both at once.
[21:27] <amiguetemelide> nhaines: ah, ok
[21:33] <amiguetemelide> Elleo: the file tha i´ve created in my personal folder /.android may be adb_usb.ini or without extension (adb_usb)?
[21:39] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: krillin is dual-sim, but the modem interface is common for both sims
[21:39] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: whtn the audio mode is activated, it works for both
[21:40] <rsalveti> cwayne: landed earlier today
[21:43] <brunch875> arrrrgh I'm running out of workspaces
[21:43] <brunch875> 4 is not enough
[21:43] <brunch875> at this rate I'll have to download the compiz tools
[21:47] <Bjoern_G> Does anyone know the "loqui" messenger (whatsapp for FireFoxOS & Ubuntu Touch)
[21:47] <Bjoern_G> ??
[21:47] <brunch875> ...the what?
[21:47] <brunch875> there's actually whatsapp?
[21:48] <Bjoern_G> https://github.com/loqui/im
[21:48] <Bjoern_G> The guys try to port the messenger from Firefox to UbuntuTouch and I actually try to install it on emulator
[21:50] <Bjoern_G> http://loqui.im/
[21:50] <Bjoern_G> If you find out the way to install it, let me know...
[21:51] <cwayne> rsalveti, neato, will try a new build
[21:51] <cwayne> doubt it fixes the wifi, but definitely still needed regardless :P
[21:52] <rsalveti> cwayne: check that it uses ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd_0.90_armhf.deb during build
[21:53] <cwayne> rsalveti, where can i check that
[21:54] <rsalveti> cwayne: in the out dir
[21:54] <rsalveti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10655733/
[21:54] <rsalveti> the logic that uses it
[22:03] <DonkeyHotei> rsalveti: here is the wakelock list for hammerhead http://paste.ubuntu.com/10631710/
[22:03] <cwayne> yeap its got the right version
[22:06] <cwayne> rsalveti, gah, no change after i updated the system.img
[22:06] <rsalveti> cwayne: what do you mean?
[22:07] <cwayne> i ran the update system.img script with my new build, and on boot still no /android/firmware mounted
[22:07] <rsalveti> cwayne: can you give me your dmesg again?
[22:08] <cwayne> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10655821/
[22:10] <rsalveti> cwayne: makes no sense if indeed using the latest version
[22:11] <rsalveti> cwayne: did you do a clean build or just a rebuild?
[22:11] <cwayne> just a rebuild after a repo sync
[22:12] <rsalveti> cwayne: wonder if you'd need a clean build
[22:12] <rsalveti> you can help debugging by applying http://paste.ubuntu.com/10655854/ as well
[22:13] <rsalveti> with that, you can go at out/target/product/bacon/ubuntu-root and edit the initrd script
[22:13] <rsalveti> then just do a rebuild
[22:13] <rsalveti> the initrd script: scripts/touch
[22:14] <cwayne> cool, will try that next, just kicked off a clean build
[22:14] <rsalveti> cwayne: the function that checks for the partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10655862/
[22:14] <rsalveti> from dmesg you can see that it gets until the 'checking mount label' message
[22:15] <rsalveti> like: [   15.563002] initrd: checking mount label mmcblk0p16
[22:15] <rsalveti> [   15.569102] initrd: checking mount label mmcblk0p15
[22:15] <ilario> I'm trying to open .avi files on the phone: one says "Video format not supported" while another file simply doesn't work, but then I get "Error playing video. Fail to connect with playback backend." for every video file I try to open and audio files doesn't work anymore. Should I file a bug on mediaplayer-app?
[22:15] <rsalveti> but probably stops at:
[22:15] <rsalveti>         [ ! -e "$path" ] && continue
[22:15] <rsalveti> which is the piece I don't yet understand
[22:15] <cwayne> hm
[22:15] <rsalveti> cwayne: so add more debug in there
[22:16] <rsalveti> ilario: "Error playing video. Fail to connect with playback backend." probably means that media-hub crashed
[22:16] <rsalveti> after you tried to play with the unsupported video
[22:16] <rsalveti> ilario: if you can create a sample of that video, or just upload it somewhere public, we can check what is going on
[22:16] <rsalveti> ilario: also, which device?
[22:18] <ilario> BQ Aquaris, now I'm going to upload the bad video somewhere
[22:18] <DonkeyHotei> on a related note, it thinks ogg theora video files are audio and refuses to play them
[22:21] <rsalveti> right, some formats are not necessarily supported by the hardware yet
[22:21] <rsalveti> ilario: great, also feel free to open a bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub
[22:21] <brunch875> how hard is it to port an existing ubuntu game written in SDL? There's this amazing roguelike named powder in the repos which would be very very neat to play in utouch
[22:27] <bregma> brunch875, SDL1.2 or SDL2 ?
[22:28] <brunch875> give me a sec, there should be a way of knowing by looking at the source code
[22:28] <ilario> rsalveti the video is this one http://uz.sns.it/~ilario/utouch-media-hub.avi I'm going to file the bug
[22:29] <rsalveti> ilario: great, thanks
[22:29] <DonkeyHotei> brunch875: it's 1.2
[22:29] <DonkeyHotei> bregma: ^
[22:30] <bregma> brunch875, I only ask because SDL2 is known to work on the phone, you just need to bundle it into the click but libSDL1.2 still needs work
[22:30] <brunch875> thank you, crazy mill fighter
[22:30] <DonkeyHotei> :)
[22:31] <brunch875> I feel honored that you wear such nickname; I live in the same city Cervantes used to live
[22:32] <DonkeyHotei> people routinely read the last letter as L instead of i
[22:33] <brunch875> haha
[22:38] <ilario> after sending its report, ubuntu-bug says that I have to open a link, press "1" for launching the browser but the browser didn't start (and I don't know how to copy the URL from the terminal app)
[22:43] <rsalveti> right, you'd need to copy the url and open it in a browser
[22:43] <brunch875> can someone check if I'm in more rooms? I think empathy isn't being too empathic
[22:44] <Talustus> ahrg :(
[22:44] <rsalveti> cwayne: any luck?
[22:44] <Talustus> still no graphical boot
[22:46] <DonkeyHotei> brunch875: freenode sets the invisible usermode by default, so you'd have to turn that off for us to see
[22:47] <Talustus> rsalveti any idea what could be wrong -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10656055/
[22:47] <Talustus> kernel already has debug set on commandline
[22:47] <brunch875> hmm I don't think empathy has that functionality :p
[22:48] <ilario> rsalveti this seems like a bug from ubuntu-bug, no? Should I file it?
[22:48] <rsalveti> Talustus: lightdm probably failed in your case when starting (as it starts mir right after that)
[22:48] <rsalveti> Talustus: check /var/log/lightdm/
[22:49] <rsalveti> ilario: probably a good idea, yeah
[22:49] <Talustus> ok moment rsalveti will restore ubuntu disk
[22:49] <cwayne> rsalveti, just finishing up building
[22:49] <rsalveti> Talustus: usually this happens when the permissions are not correct for the graphics related devices in /dev/
[22:49] <rsalveti> Talustus: converting the ueventd file into a proper udev file usually fixes that, but it might be a different issue
[22:50] <Talustus> yeah i have seen a line like can not open /dev/xconsole
[22:50] <rsalveti> Talustus: would also be good to run sudo /system/bin/logcat at the same time it triest o start lightdm
[22:50] <Talustus> it drops me to a root shell
[22:51] <Talustus> no need for sudo but also no logcat for some reason maybe somthing is wrong with the nderlaying android
[22:58] <popey> ilario: no, run ubuntu-bug from ssh'ed in, not from terminal on device.
[22:58] <popey> ilario: or from adb shell, or whatever
[22:58] <ilario> mmmh this seems a good idea :)
[22:58] <popey> ilario: it's actually a bug in the terminal - in that it doesn't know what a url is
[22:59] <popey> i am not convinced we should fix that
[22:59] <popey> we should on the desktop..
[23:02] <Talustus> hm rsalveti
[23:02] <Talustus> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# ls -la /android/system/bin/logcat
[23:02] <Talustus> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13656 Mar 20 2015 /android/system/bin/logcat
[23:02] <Talustus> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# /android/system/bin/logcat
[23:02] <Talustus> bash: /android/system/bin/logcat: No such file or directory
[23:03] <Talustus> there is no "/system" mounted
[23:03] <Talustus> and /var/log/lightdm/ is empty
[23:03] <rsalveti> right, yeah, failed to even start android then
[23:03] <ilario> popey is there any way to copy some text from terminal-app? This seems a really needed feature...
[23:03] <rsalveti> because it couldn't mount it
[23:04] <Talustus> but everything is mounted under /android
[23:06] <popey> ilario: yes, long press
[23:07] <cwayne> rsalveti, it seems improved, but still none on /android type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=4k,nr_inodes=143239)
[23:07] <rsalveti> cwayne: have dmesg again?
[23:07] <rsalveti> cwayne: guess time for you to debug that script then :-)
[23:08] <rsalveti> Talustus: well, you said you have nothing under /android/system
[23:08] <Talustus> i have
[23:08] <Talustus> everything is there
[23:09] <rsalveti> hm, why would /android/system/bin/logcat fail then
[23:09] <Talustus> i dont know
[23:09] <Talustus> i think
[23:09] <Talustus> thats the point where the trouble starts
[23:09] <Talustus> Jan 1 01:04:11 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 33.850250] initrd: mounting /root/var/lib/lxc/android/system.img as /root/android/system
[23:09] <Talustus> Jan 1 01:04:11 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 34.558166] init: ureadahead main process (343) terminated with status 5
[23:09] <Talustus> Jan 1 01:04:11 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 34.896209] init: mounted-proc main process (361) terminated with status 1
[23:10] <cwayne> rsalveti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10656181/
[23:10] <rsalveti> the ureadahead message is fine
[23:10] <Talustus> and the mount-proc comes maybe from this=?
[23:10] <Talustus> Jan 1 01:04:11 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 33.106414] EXT2-fs (loop1): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (40)
[23:10] <rsalveti> cwayne: really weird, it did mount /cache and /persist
[23:11] <Talustus> this line is several times in the log but always the filesystem gets mounted
[23:11] <rsalveti> and it tried mounting the others (probably did the mount command)
[23:11] <rsalveti> cwayne: maybe the mount command from initrd (possibly busybox) doesn't support some of the mount options in there
[23:11] <cwayne> ah maybe
[23:11] <XDS2010_> can you guys help me put ubuntu touch on my vzwM8 and use multirom ? is this supported yet ?
[23:12] <rsalveti> Talustus: that's fine, it tries first with ext2, then ext3, then ext4
[23:12] <rsalveti> the mounted-proc error is indeed weird
[23:12] <XDS2010_> where can i get support for this rom ?
[23:13] <rsalveti> Talustus: but still fined to fail:
[23:13] <rsalveti>     if [ -e "${MOUNTPOINT}"/slabinfo ]; then
[23:13] <rsalveti>         chmod 0400 "${MOUNTPOINT}"/slabinfo
[23:13] <rsalveti> *fine
[23:13] <rsalveti> Talustus: guess best to do is to investigate if the lxc container started or not
[23:14] <XDS2010_> anyone working on a m8 port ?
[23:15] <Talustus> hm
[23:16] <Talustus> the question for me is
[23:16] <Talustus> it mounts system and data under /android
[23:16] <Talustus> shouldnt it mount vendor and cache as well?
[23:16] <Talustus> or firmware
[23:16] <Talustus> its at least in the fstab.qcom
[23:17] <rsalveti> if they are a specified on a different partition, yeah
[23:17] <rsalveti> your dmesg should probably explain why
[23:17] <rsalveti> Talustus: mind pasting that?
[23:18] <rsalveti> maybe you're having the same issue cwayne got with his devic
[23:18] <Talustus> fstab.qcom has system cache data and firmware in it
[23:18] <Talustus> but only data and system get mounted
[23:18] <Talustus> Jan 1 01:04:11 ubuntu-phablet rsyslogd-2039: Could no open output pipe '/dev/xconsole': No such file or directory [try http://www.rsyslog.com/e/2039 ]
[23:19] <Talustus> is that related or can be ignored?
[23:20] <rsalveti> I don't have that on my krillin, so probably not related
[23:20] <Talustus> shoudl i maybe try a different rootfs?
[23:21] <rsalveti> Talustus: can you paste your dmesg?
[23:21] <Talustus> yes
[23:25] <Talustus> rsalveti -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10656289/
[23:28] <rsalveti> [   28.847442] initrd: checking fstab /root/var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/fstab* for additional mount points
[23:28] <rsalveti> [   28.896759] initrd: checking mount label mmcblk0p13
[23:28] <rsalveti> [   28.942535] initrd: checking mount label mmcblk0p26
[23:28] <Talustus> yeah
[23:28] <rsalveti> Talustus: it checks for the above partitions, but doesn't mount any
[23:28] <Talustus> yes
[23:28] <rsalveti> what are those partitions?
[23:28] <Talustus> it does
[23:28] <Talustus> for system
[23:28] <Talustus> and data
[23:28] <rsalveti> system is different, same for data
[23:28] <Talustus> firmware
[23:28] <rsalveti> right, exactly the same issue cwayne has
[23:29] <rsalveti> if you rebuild your image, you will be using the latest initrd, which will at least try to mount the device
[23:29] <rsalveti> but might fail, not exactly sure why yet
[23:29] <Talustus> so i only need to rebuild bootimg?
[23:30] <AskUbuntu> Consequences of using apt-get in ubuntu touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/600065
[23:30] <rsalveti> Talustus: the android initrd is inside the system image, so you need to rebuild and flash that
[23:31] <Talustus> i can mount it in recovery and just replace the ramdisk
[23:32] <Talustus> flashing is a bit tricky for that device
[23:32] <Talustus> only has small data part (2 gig) wich is nearly full
[23:34] <rsalveti> yeah, that is easier if you know what to do
[23:34] <rsalveti> it's under /system/boot/
[23:34] <Talustus> yep
[23:34] <Talustus> android-ramdisk
[23:34] <rsalveti> oh, sorry, but you actually want to update the ubuntu initrd
[23:34] <Talustus> yea
[23:34] <rsalveti> was thinking about another issue
[23:34] <Talustus> that waqs why i asked
[23:34] <rsalveti> so yeah, just update the bootimg and flash that
[23:34] <Talustus> only bootimg then
[23:35] <Talustus> kk
[23:35] <Talustus> rebuilding moment please
[23:38] <Talustus> Downloading ubuntu-touch-generic-initrd version 0.90
[23:38] <Talustus> that should be the new one then
[23:38] <rsalveti> yup
[23:40] <Talustus> ok flashing kernel now
[23:42] <AskUbuntu> Is there any way to get the Ubuntu tablet interface on an Intel powered 2-in-1 machine? | http://askubuntu.com/q/600066
[23:47] <Talustus> seems to bootloop now
[23:50] <Talustus> jep rsalveti
[23:50] <Talustus> cache and firmware mounted
[23:50] <rsalveti> Talustus: great, but still in a bootloop?
[23:50] <Talustus> it looped 2 times then booted
[23:50] <Talustus> stil no dislay
[23:51] <rsalveti> interesting, alright
[23:51] <rsalveti> anything in /var/log/lightdm?
[23:51] <Talustus> no
[23:52] <rsalveti>  /var/log/lxc/android.log might be useful as well
[23:52] <rsalveti> Talustus: run ps aux and paste me the output
[23:52] <Talustus> empty
[23:53] <rsalveti> lightdm just starts if lxc-android-config.conf runs successfully
[23:53] <rsalveti> that is the job that starts the android container
[23:53] <rsalveti> lxc-start -n android -- /init
[23:54] <rsalveti> you can add some flags for it to be more verbose as well
[23:54] <Talustus> --verbose?
[23:55] <Talustus> also
[23:55] <Talustus> lot of line
[23:55] <Talustus> [ 33.965393] systemd-udevd[141]: maximum number (12) of children reached
[23:55] <Talustus> [ 33.965423] systemd-udevd[141]: maximum number (12) of children reached
[23:55] <rsalveti>   -o, --logfile=FILE               Output log to FILE instead of stderr
[23:55] <rsalveti>   -l, --logpriority=LEVEL          Set log priority to LEVEL
[23:55] <rsalveti> oh, that shouldn't be good
[23:56] <rsalveti> still, udev shouldn't interfere with the container
[23:57] <Talustus> here is a new dmesg rsalveti
[23:57] <Talustus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10656501/
[23:59] <rsalveti> yeah, seems the container didn't even start
[23:59] <rsalveti> start on cgmanager-ready


[16:12] <cjwatson> anyone here for the release meeting?
[16:13] <cjwatson> I think Steve's crashed after the RC effort, so I wasn't planning a big formal round-up, but just a forum in case people have last-minute things they need to bring up
[16:14] <cody-somerville> I'm here
[16:14] <cody-somerville> But I don't have anything particular to say :)
[16:24] <persia> I'm curious about relative hard freeze times for packages targeted at images vs. unseeded packages.
[16:34] <davidm> cjwatson, kernel team had to do a new upload of MID kernel, it still had DYNAMIC_FTRACE turned on.
[16:34] <davidm> That was the source of the boot and e1000e bugs in the main kerenl
[16:35] <dendrobates> cjwatson: we are working on a fix for bug 287754
[16:36] <lool> cjwatson: Concerning mobile, we discovered a bunch of bugs; important ones are addressed in a kourou upload which was accepted; one which we'd like to fix remains, but can't be nominated due to launchpad but; we can probably release with the bug and SRU it though
[16:36] <lool> cjwatson: 288767
[16:37] <cjwatson> persia: we're going to have to hard-freeze the archive to ensure everything builds and is in place in advance of Thursday, so I'd expect no more than a day or two's difference, although I don't have exact dates
[16:37] <cjwatson> davidm: ok, I was sort of expecting that - linux-lpia?
[16:38] <lool> It was uploaded
[16:38] <cjwatson> dendrobates: it's not on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+bugs?field.milestone=1326 - should it be?
[16:38] <cjwatson> dendrobates: bugs need to be targeted or we won't notice them
[16:38] <cjwatson> I agree that that looks critical though
[16:39] <persia> cjwatson, That's plenty of time.  I just want to upload linux-rt and friends post final-kernel-upload, and pre-final-archive-freeze.  Thanks.
[16:39] <dendrobates> It just came to my attention this morning I am still making changes, it will be targeted as soon as I save it.
[16:39] <cjwatson> persia: the kernel should not be the last thing that lands. :-)
[16:39] <persia> cjwatson, The -rt kernel, or the base kernel?
[16:39] <cjwatson> persia: base
[16:39] <davidm> cjwatson, yes linux-lpia
[16:39] <cjwatson> lool: nasty, but does seem fixable in an SRU
[16:40] <persia> OK.  I feel safe.  -rt will be late, but it's not default : I just want to avoid FTBFS or missing a bug fixed in base.
[16:40] <cjwatson> how long does it take to build?
[16:40] <cjwatson> we're going to have to tie up i386 buildds with language packs on Sunday
[16:44] <dendrobates> cjwatson: getting a launchpad error when I try to taget 287754 , will try again in a bit.
[16:44] <persia> On i386 linux-rt is ~ 1 hour, lrm-rt is ~ 5 minutes, and linux-meta-rt is ~ 5 minutes.
[16:46] <ogra> cjwatson, well, if i find a fix in time for 288767 it would surely make sense to get it in
[16:46] <ogra> though i agree it *could* be an SRU
[16:48] <cjwatson> davidm: how's progress on the linux-firmware copyright file?
[16:49] <davidm> pgraner, I and BenC and smb_tp as working that issue
[16:49] <davidm> bug #262564 is now taken care of
[16:49] <davidm> bug #284405 still in progress
[16:52] <cjwatson> davidm: OK, I'm going to drop the priority of the latter to high
[23:33]  * davidm is away:


[02:59] <Scary_Guy> @Dekkard happy early Passover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGXcXFH_CHY :)
[13:23] <cmaloney> morning
[13:32] <rick_h_> morning
[13:38] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[13:43] <rick_h_> not too bad.
[13:44] <rick_h_> Aunt's birthday, working on the new standing desk setup which is nice.
[13:44] <rick_h_> little crazy at that end of cycle stuff at work wheeee
[13:44] <cmaloney> heh
[13:44] <cmaloney> Are you still out-and-about?
[14:05] <jrwren> i saw today's kernel updates and got excited for a sec, i thought it might have the wireguard backports, but it doesn't.
[14:09] <rick_h_> yea, a bit soon for that unfortunately. Especially in an LTS release
[14:14] <jrwren> 19.10 tho
[14:15] <rick_h_> 20.10?
[14:25] <jrwren> no. i just mean I saw teh update come in 19.10.
[14:52]  * greg-g yawns
[14:52] <cmaloney> morning, greg-g
[16:04] <jrwren> so... debian is having a covid19 hackathon... https://lwn.net/Articles/816280/
[16:04] <jrwren> cool I htink, so I click the bugs link.
[16:04] <jrwren> https://blends.debian.org/med/bugs/covid-19.html
[16:05] <jrwren> top bug on the list is that some package doesn't build on hurd.
[16:05] <jrwren> oh right, now I remember why I don't care about debian.
[16:05] <rick_h_> lol
[16:07] <greg-g> taking people to task for having fun with their pet projects :P
[16:08] <greg-g> (and that's the only mention of hurd on the page...)
[16:09] <greg-g> (and by "top" it's "first alphabetically by package name and only middling importance (yellow))
[16:09] <greg-g> throw a " up there to balance my quotes
[16:11] <jrwren> stop belittling my experience with your facts. ;)
[16:11] <greg-g> <3
[16:15] <cmaloney> All we are saying is give hurd a chance
[16:16] <rick_h_> that's ok, every time I've got to chase down a bug because s390x failed I cry inside
[16:17] <cmaloney> All we are saying is give IBM Mainframes that happen to run Linux a chance
[16:18] <cmaloney> Also, I'm sure that IBM no longer makes their owk equipment anymore. Do we know who makes s390x en?
[16:19] <rick_h_> no idea, but IBM pays us to make sure all our stuff works on everything IBM
[16:20] <jrwren> ugh... so true... i'm not sure which is worse.
[20:27] <Scary_Guy> https://i.imgur.com/TGYC0Q2.jpeg
[20:45] <Dekkard> hehe..I actually had an email correspondence with his ild lawyer Eben once
[20:45] <Dekkard> those were the days
[20:46] <Dekkard> Actually had one with Andy Tannenbaum too
[20:46] <Dekkard> he sent me an email like a year later looking for someone for a faculty position
[20:46] <Dekkard> ???


[02:08] <jtv> wgrant: nothing blew up with the slave build cookies so far?
[03:16] <wgrant> jtv: I haven't tested it aggressively, but it seems to be OK.
[03:17] <jtv> wgrant: cool!
[03:17] <jtv> wgrant: I felt a bit bad about having an extensive national holiday after dropping a potential bombshell into the codebase, but I have have gotten lucky.  :)
[03:18] <wgrant> jtv: Heh.
[07:13] <lifeless> argh, lplib is _so slow_
[07:32] <jtv> high time for lunch!
[07:59] <adeuring> morning
[09:26] <jml> hizello
[09:27] <wgrant> Joñeaux!
[09:28] <mrevell> Morning
[09:33] <jml> wgrant: :D
[09:34] <jml> mrevell: good morning
[09:34] <mrevell> How jml
[09:36] <spm> heyo jml the cruel
[09:36] <jml> spm: what! I found it for you, didn't I? :P
[09:37] <spm> lol
[09:37] <spm> take 3 points for the comment; lose 3 for the cruelty. ;-)
[09:40] <jml> wuu! it's like Fable 2
[09:40] <wgrant> How is it in the realms of ash today?
[09:41] <jml> the usual: grey
[09:41] <jml> but it's been awesome watching the tree outside my window slowly grow leaves and flowers
[09:42] <wgrant> Heh.
[11:04] <deryck> Morning, all.
[11:28] <deryck> Hi, intellectronica.  I believe bug 566351 might be related to recent bug heat changes.  If not, it relates to heat calculation performance work you're doing.
[11:28] <mup> Bug #566351: Unable to mark a bug as private (times out) <Launchpad Bugs:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/566351>
[11:29] <intellectronica> deryck: ok, will investigate.
[11:30] <deryck> intellectronica, thanks
[12:07] <intellectronica> deryck: i don't think it's related to that change (which is annoying, because if it isn't then why are we starting to see this now?)
[12:08] <intellectronica> that is, i don't think it's related to heat at all. the thing that times out is trying to subscribe the person marking the bug as private, and that happens before we do anything heat-related
[12:11] <deryck> intellectronica, I saw those 63 select bugjob statements, which seems to be where the timeout is.  So I thought it must be related to heat.  Or am I misreading that?
[12:14] <intellectronica> deryck: ah right, maybe it is heat-related, in that the job creation is triggered by adding a subscription. but it's not related to the immediate heat calculation (also i can reproduce on staging, which still doesn't have this change).
[12:15] <wgrant> The distroseries index seems really slow now.
[12:15] <wgrant> OOPS-1570EB719
[12:18] <deryck> intellectronica, ok, cool.  so not new, but perhaps heat related then.
[12:18] <intellectronica> yes
[12:53] <wgrant> bigjools: Bug #253509?
[12:53] <mup> Bug #253509: Security contact subscribed when moving tasks <Launchpad Bugs:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/253509>
[12:54] <bigjools> careful, you'll get called mpt soon :)
[12:54] <wgrant> Nah, I filed this one.
[12:55] <bigjools> yeah was gonna say
[12:55]  * bigjools sighs at the desktop getting slower the longer it's used
[12:55] <wgrant> So, the security notification breakage is being fixed?
[12:55] <wgrant> bigjools: Lucid?
[12:55] <bigjools> yes
[12:55] <wgrant> With a GEM-using graphics driver?
[12:55] <bigjools> GEM?
[12:56] <wgrant> grep "object bytes" /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/gem_objects
[12:56] <bigjools> no such file ...
[12:56] <bigjools> it's nvidia
[12:56] <wgrant> OK, so not the big GEM leak then.
[12:56] <wgrant> Ah.
[12:56] <bigjools> it also decides it can't start when I boot and goes to the "reconfigure X" dialog :/
[12:57] <wgrant> <3 proprietary drivers
[12:57] <bigjools> I doubt this is a proprietary driver bug
[12:57] <bigjools> it's a setup bug
[12:57] <bigjools> the slowness, I dunno, however
[13:00] <wgrant> bigjools: Can I somehow get hold of one of the new timestamped cron.publish-ftpmaster logs?
[13:01] <bigjools> wgrant: yeah, one sec
[13:13] <leonardr> james_w, where are you on updating bzr-builddeb to avoid using the 'beta' service? i don't see any recent branches from you for that package
[13:14] <james_w> leonardr: it's done
[13:15] <leonardr> james_w: great. do you think we're ready to push the new version of launchpadlib to lucid?
[13:15] <james_w> done as well
[13:15] <james_w> must have dropped you from CC, sorry
[13:16] <james_w> the only issue I've seen is with the launchpad bzr plugin
[13:16] <james_w> its hacked up version of web_link broke
[13:18] <leonardr> james_w: is that also fixed?
[13:18] <james_w> not yet
[13:18] <leonardr> i'm checking whether the software-properties problem is fixed
[13:27] <wgrant> bigjools: Thanks.
[13:27] <leonardr> it is fixed, great
[13:27] <bigjools> welcome
[13:28] <wgrant> bigjools: Also, any progress on the PPA log parser script setup?
[13:29] <bigjools> wgrant: waiting on the RT
[13:29] <wgrant> bigjools: Ah, great. Thanks!
[13:29] <bigjools> will poke some people about that today
[13:38] <wgrant> 2010-04-17 23:05:32 DEBUG   Sorting sources...
[13:38] <wgrant> 2010-04-17 23:07:51 DEBUG   Dominating sources...
[13:38] <wgrant> Wow.
[13:38] <wgrant> That really doesn't need to take more than a second.
[13:46] <wgrant> bigjools: Hm, the log stops rather abruptly.
[13:46] <bigjools> wgrant: yeah it gets synced over to a different maching, they clashed
[13:46] <bigjools> machine*
[13:46] <wgrant> Ah :(
[13:46] <wgrant> Still, apt-ftparchive is really extraordinarily slow.
[13:47] <bigjools> yes, yes it is
[13:48] <bigjools> if we can get the soyuz publisher to handle extra overrides, we'd be able to do a direct comparison
[13:49] <bigjools> right, lunch time
[14:00] <wgrant> bigjools: A direct comparison will make you cry.
[14:00] <wgrant> NMAF is probably around an order of magnitude slower.
[14:05] <deryck> sinzui, ping
[14:05] <sinzui> hi deryck
[14:22] <wgrant> bigjools: Shouldn't uploads to obsolete series in PPAs be rejected?
[15:06] <bigjools> wgrant: cprov always maintained after you take everything into account, they were comparable
[15:07] <bigjools> that's why I want full comparisons :)
[15:07] <bigjools> and yes obsolete series should refuse PPA uploads
[15:09] <wgrant> It's pretty easy to get NMAF up to around 6000 stanzas per second locally by caching them. But I'm not sure how much of a penalty extra overrides will be -- we can't safely cache them.
[15:10] <mars> danilos, ping, did you get a chance to try the ec2 test patch?
[15:12] <danilos> mars, yes, see email
[15:12] <mars> danilos, ah, thanks!
[15:13] <danilos> mars, in short works fine :)
[15:13] <mars> and a big "ARGH" goes towards my busted mail filters
[15:18] <mars> sinzui, do you remember what version of zope we were using before the 3.4.??? upgrade?
[15:18] <mars> sinzui, it was 3.2somethingbeta I believe?
[15:18] <sinzui> 3.2 + patches
[15:19] <sinzui> mars: it was not an official release
[15:19] <mars> sinzui, ok, thanks
[15:20] <bigjools> wgrant: I expect it can be further improved quite easily, cStringIO etc and other critical parts compiled
[15:28] <deryck> adeuring, so the only surprise from running expiring script on staging was script perms?  Does that mean none of the staging bugs got set EXPIRED?
[15:43] <BjornT> gary_poster: ping
[15:43] <leonardr> jml: i'd like your opinion on a couple new potential performance improvements
[15:44] <gary_poster> BjornT: pong
[15:44] <leonardr> https://dev.launchpad.net/Foundations/Webservice/Performance#line-184 and the section beneath it
[15:45] <BjornT> gary_poster: i'm trying to add http://pypi.python.org/pypi/repoze.sphinx.autointerface/0.3 to our buildout config, so that i can use that plugin in sphinx
[15:45] <jml> leonardr: thanks. I'll take a look, but I'm on the phone from now until tomorrow :(
[15:45] <leonardr> jml, no rush
[15:46] <BjornT> gary_poster: however, it requires Sphinx >= 0.6.1, and even though i have 0.6.2 installed in the system python, buildout doesn't find it
[15:47] <BjornT> gary_poster: anyway to tell buildout that "i actually have this package already", instead of adding sphinx and its dependencies to buildout?
[15:48] <gary_poster> BjornT: no, buildout should not use eggs from system Python.  It only allows the underlying site-packages to be available.  Doing anything else was even more rickety than what we are already doing.  So, in this case, either get the repoze package in our PPA or something, or use Sphinx from a package buildout manages
[15:49] <BjornT> gary_poster: ok, thanks
[15:50] <gary_poster> np
[15:51] <BjornT> gary_poster: do you know who would be able to package a python module quickly? i guess it should be easy, but slow if you haven't done it before.
[15:53] <gary_poster> BjornT: I think you are right about "should be easy". :-) and Python packages in particular are tricky, I believe, maybe even esp. those with namespaces.  I know U1 does it a lot.  Maybe noodles775 would have other ideas?  I unfortunately do not have experience with it myself, though I'd like to.
[15:57] <jml> BjornT: I'd ask someone from U1
[16:16] <henninge> Hi all! Does this ring any bell?
[16:16] <henninge>         context = gpgme.Context()
[16:16] <henninge>     GpgmeError: (32, 176, 'Unknown error code')
[16:16] <kfogel> adeuring: if you will be around in ~45 min, I'd like to talk about getting a good query for persons/teams in https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kfogel/tuolumne-lp-configs/patches-time-to-closing/revision/40 .
[16:17] <kfogel> henninge: nope, sorry
[16:17] <jelmer> henninge: yes; it's fixed in lp:~launchpad-pqm/pygpgme/devel, but that hasn't landed yet because of other errors
[16:17] <henninge> jelmer, kfogel: thanks, good to know ;)
[16:18] <bigjools> henninge: bzr pull the pygpgme sourcecode
[16:18] <bigjools> then run make in the same dir, then in the devel dir, make clean
[16:19] <bigjools> then it WFM
[16:19] <henninge> bigjools: cool, thanks
[16:25] <maxb> jelmer: About those other errors - do you have a plan?
[16:41] <bac> hi leonardr, i'm having problems using lplib against a dev instance.  have you seen anything like this before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/418662/ ?
[16:45] <leonardr> bac: no, take a look at how the sock object is created
[16:46] <bac> leonardr: sorry to bother you
[16:46] <bac> turns out my apache wasn't running
[16:47] <leonardr> ok
[17:23] <kfogel> adeuring: ping
[17:35] <deryck> hi kfogel.  I think he might be unavailable for a little while.
[17:36]  * deryck pinged earlier forgetting that
[17:37] <kfogel> deryck: thx
[18:12] <jml> g'night all
[19:53] <adiroiban> is make iharness working ? I'm trying to create a view and it enters an infinite loop
[20:00] <samgee> is there anything I could do to help solve https://launchpad.net/bugs/549041 or is that something ubuntu admins need to fix? (I'm not familiar with soyuz in any way [yet].)
[20:00] <mup> Bug #549041: don't de-index source packages until they're due to be removed from disk <soyuz-publish> <Soyuz:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/549041>
[21:05] <bac> hi leonardr, i'm trying to write some launchpadlib pagetests and i'm discovering some things that work as expected in an interactive lplib session but do not work in the test environment.
[21:05] <bac> collection = lp_anon.project_groups.search(text="Apache")
[21:05] <bac> throws a 405
[21:06] <leonardr> bac, can you paste the full httperror dump?
[21:07] <bac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/418829/
[21:10] <leonardr> bac: given that 'allow' contains pretty much every http method there's probably something wrong with the http transport
[21:11] <leonardr> can you also set httplib2.debuglevel = 1 and see what is sent?
[21:11] <bac> leonardr: ok
[21:14] <cody-somerville> Is there a non-admin launchpad.dev account that I can log in to?
[21:15] <cody-somerville> I suppose I could just set a password for the cprov account or something like that, right?
[21:18] <bac> leonardr: here is the output but the httplib2 debug was not generated for the call.  it was shown for the call to login_anonymously but not the search.  https://pastebin.canonical.com/30870/
[21:21] <leonardr> bac: 1. push your branch so i can try it
[21:22] <leonardr> 2. do you know if other launchpadlib actions result in httplib2 dumps?
[21:22] <bac> leonardr: 2) in the interactive env the search does generated debug output
[21:22] <bac> 1) will do
[21:23] <leonardr> bac: for 2) can you do something other than run this search and see if there's output?
[21:24] <bac> sure
[21:25] <bac> leonardr: lp:~bac/launchpad/bug-524778
[21:26] <bac> leonardr: bin/test -vv  -t lp-proj.txt
[21:27] <leonardr> ok
[21:27] <bac> leonardr: no, i put in just a call to lp_anon.project_groups to get the collection and debug output wasn't shown
[21:28] <leonardr> but lp_anon.project_groups worked?
[21:29] <bac> yes
[21:29] <bac> it works but the search() does not
[21:29] <leonardr> ok
[21:36] <thumper> morning
[21:42] <leonardr> bac, i suspect the request is never making it into lazr.restful code. you could test this with breakpoints in HTTPResource.do_GET. i suspect something about the way the test env is hooked up is to blame
[21:42] <leonardr> i'm eod but i will look at this tomorrow if you're still stuck. i will probably need to do another launchpad branch
[21:43] <bac> leonardr: ok, i think you're right.  other than your launchpadlib.txt i don't think this has been exercised much
[21:43] <bac> thanks for your help and i'll talk to you tomorrow
[22:19] <lifeless> leonardr: hi
[22:19] <lifeless> leonardr: launchpadlib seems to make HTTP requests on every object traversal; is there some way to make it cache things and avoid querying each time ?
[22:22] <leonardr> lifeless: yes, at the cost of the client sometimes having out-of-date information
[22:22] <leonardr> https://dev.launchpad.net/Foundations/Webservice/Performance#line-184
[22:25] <maxb> jelmer: Around? (Regarding pygpgme and lucid)
[22:25] <lifeless> leonardr: we're in a 1-a-minute cron job, and its doing some absurd amount of lookups - 1000's perhaps.
[22:25] <lifeless> bwah
[23:32] <thumper> sinzui: ping
[23:33] <james_w> lifeless: you can try the twisted client, it forces you to request the lookups
[23:33] <james_w> lifeless: it's still experimental though, so it may well require some contribution for it to work for you
[23:34] <lifeless> james_w: sounds interesting; at least for now though I can't justify the time - this is a slack-time project to get rid of 'pqm-submit'
[23:34] <james_w> right
[23:34] <lifeless> james_w: and production code really wants package deployed dependencies etc
[23:35] <james_w> lifeless: sure, it's not ready yet. However, given that you mentioned async lplib yesterday, and now asked about a feature you get with it, I thought I would mention it :-)
[23:40] <lifeless> james_w: I appreciate that
[23:40] <lifeless> james_w: where is it btw ?
[23:41] <james_w> lazr.restfulclient.tx
[23:41] <james_w> on a well-known open source hosting platform
[23:42] <lifeless> :P
[23:47] <thumper> james_w: what? github?
[23:48] <james_w> mais oui
[23:57] <mwhudson> buzzword fail!
[23:57] <mwhudson> james_w: you meant *colloboration* platform!
[23:58] <mwhudson> except with better spelling
[23:58] <james_w> no, I think I probably meant colloboration, it's late here


[08:37] <wuxiaoyi_> FjKong,hi
[08:37] <FJKong> wuxiaoyi_: hi
[08:38] <wuxiaoyi_> 皮肤安装的步骤能详细解释一下么
[14:20] <freeflying> ypwong: my prediction, hk will be a place that many company will build dc there
[14:38] <ypwong> freeflying, you see there's such trned?
[14:38] <ypwong> trend
[14:38] <ypwong> freeflying, google gave up doing that


[11:29] <ikt> A /64 subnet is the smallest IPv6 assignment that an End User can receive according to the current IPv6 assignment policy.
[11:30] <ikt> so the smallest subnet that can be given out is<PHONE_NUMBER>3709551616 IP addresses
[11:30] <jea> we all need a lot of numbers
[11:31] <ikt> the problem i've got is that a customer is given a /64 and is saying that ipv6 isn't working
[11:31] <ikt> on ipv4, they are given a /32, which is a single ip address
[11:31] <ikt> so normally I just try and ping that ip
[11:31] <jea> they probably can't decide on which ip to use
[11:32] <ikt> I think we need a way of seeing what IPv6 address is given to a router
[11:32] <ikt> so my response will be something along the way of "i can see we've given you a /64, it should work"
[11:33] <jea> does their router support ipv6?
[11:33] <ikt> yeah
[11:33] <ikt> fritzbox 7390
[11:33] <jea> alright
[11:34] <jea> clients can be fun to deal with
[11:35] <ikt> yup
[11:35] <ikt> if they weren't fun I don't know if I'd be doing my job right now
[11:35] <ikt> helpdesk :P
[12:15] <iktmob> test
[12:16] <iktmob> Hurray! It works
[12:23] <jea> i find irssi connectbot works well
[12:23] <jea> but you need a server for that
[12:23] <ikt> have you seen irissinotifier?
[12:24] <ikt> is it any good?
[12:29] <jea> i have seen it, but have not used it yet


[06:09] <Laney> moin!
[06:31] <duflu> Morning Laney
[07:34] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:37] <marcustomlinson> morning oSoMoN
[07:38] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[07:38] <oSoMoN> had a good week-end?
[07:38] <duflu> Good morning oSoMoN and marcustomlinson
[07:38] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: so turns out I broke the upgrade path for LO 6.1.6... oops - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1828683
[07:39] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1828683 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Cosmic) "package libreoffice-impress 1:6.1.6-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> failed to install/upgrade: forsøger at overskrive '/usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libOGLTranslo.so', som også er i pakken libreoffice-ogltrans 1:6.1.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>" [High,Triaged]
[07:39] <marcustomlinson> oSoMoN: could you upload again for me
[07:39] <marcustomlinson> morning duflu!
[07:42] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, sure thing, looking at that now
[07:42] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[07:56] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[07:56] <duflu> Morning tjaalton, did you see bug 1801071 ?
[07:56] <ubot5`> bug 1801071 in libxpresent (Ubuntu Disco) "XPresentPixmap() BadWindow, recompiling fixes it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801071
[07:56] <willcooke> hi duflu, good weekend?
[07:56] <duflu> willcooke, it was remarkably short. Half was Mother's Day. But pleasant. You?
[07:57] <willcooke> at another airport
[07:57] <willcooke> so meh
[07:57] <tjaalton> duflu: nope..
[07:58] <duflu> tjaalton, I find it curious that some people like Martin had tearing for *years* prior to that fix. Makes me wonder what we were missing
[07:58] <duflu> in terms of performance
[07:58] <duflu> and why more people never noticed a problem
[08:01] <tjaalton> well, I'll start by subscribing ubuntu-x-swat to it's bugs..
[08:01] <tjaalton> it's in universe btw
[08:13] <tjaalton> duflu: most use libxcb-present0
[08:14] <duflu> tjaalton, you mean most compositors?
[08:14] <duflu> shells/DEs?
[08:15] <tjaalton> I'd guess
[08:15] <tjaalton> server is built with it
[08:21] <duflu> Wimpress, ^ It sounds like that xpresent issue would only affect DEs using the "old" API. I think that includes Compiz/Unity. What do you use?
[08:24] <Wimpress> Ubuntu MATE uses the Marco window manager while Xubuntu uses xfwm. Both benefit from the libxpresent rebuild.
[08:24] <duflu> Cool
[08:24] <tjaalton> marco seems to be the only package that depends on libxpresent1
[08:25] <duflu> Yeah I would not expect Compiz/Unity to be affected in reality because it really uses XComposite for everything and leaves the Present work to Xorg internally
[08:25] <duflu> Same (and for other reasons) why I would not expect mutter/gnome-shell to be affected
[14:29] <oSoMoN> tkamppeter, thanks for seeing that n-m SRU to bionic through! it wasn't an easy one
[14:30] <oSoMoN> Laney, sil2100: thanks for your help ^
[14:30] <Laney> yw
[14:30] <Laney> thanks to you!
[14:39] <tkamppeter> oSoMoN, with nm landed 2 of the 3 bugs are fixed, bug 1754671 only needs systemd now, but this is a small patch which should get through quickly.
[14:39] <ubot5`> bug 1754671 in systemd (Ubuntu Bionic) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754671
[14:40] <tkamppeter> Also Laney, tjaalton, sil2100, thanks for all your cooperation.
[14:41] <willcooke> well done tkamppeter!


[21:10] <c7p> hey jenkins, how are you ?
[21:11] <jenkins> good thanks, how are you?
[21:11] <c7p> i am fine
[21:12] <c7p> i took some screenshots yesterday but i tracked some bugs
[21:13] <jenkins> thats great, can you pop them in a bug report?
[21:13] <c7p> yes of course
[21:13] <jenkins> or even better go help > report a bug
[21:13] <jenkins> i don't recall exactly what it says
[21:14] <jenkins> I think we got bug reporting in the curretn release
[21:15] <jenkins> does anyone know who wrote the install chapter?
[21:18]  * jenkins gets approving screenshots
[21:21] <jenkins> thanks c7p for the bug, should have asked what sort of bug it was! I had forgotten about the change to shotwell.  From what i know there wasn't any author/editor team as there was for 10.04 manual due to the fact that almost every member of the team was too busy to contribute
[21:28] <jenkins> yep me included in the too busy, I will have to catch chris
[21:42] <c7p> godbyk: ping
[21:42] <godbyk> c7p: pong
[21:42] <c7p> that was quick ::)
[21:43] <godbyk> I just happened to switch over to the irc window since I saw the bug reports people were posting.
[21:43] <godbyk> and I had just finished reading the conversation when you pinged me.
[21:43] <godbyk> So it all worked out nicely. :-)
[21:43] <c7p> have you a list of all the manual author ?
[21:43]  * c7p hehe
[21:44] <godbyk> The only list I would have is what's in the credits at the back of the manual.  There may be some comments in the files themselves where authors identify themselves.
[21:46] <c7p> good
[21:54] <c7p> godbyk have you read my mail ?
[21:54] <godbyk> Probably.  Which one?
[21:55] <godbyk> Oh, the "Next meeting/ natty release plans" one?
[21:56] <c7p> yes
[21:56] <godbyk> I had apparently just starred it to read later.
[21:56] <godbyk> I'm looking at it now.
[21:57] <c7p> ok
[21:58] <godbyk> It looks like some of the chapter authors and editors are shown here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/TableOfContents
[21:58] <godbyk> I can email them and see if they're interested in reprising their roles for the Natty release.
[21:59] <c7p> nice
[22:02] <godbyk> Also, Rick and I conversed via email earlier this week.  I filled him in on how we've been doing things in the past and whatnot.
[22:02] <c7p> that's great
[22:57] <jenkins> night all
[22:58] <c7p> night all


[06:53] <dupondje> general protection failt: 0000 [#1] SMP PTI
[06:54] <dupondje> RIP: 0010:deactivate_slabe.isra.75+0x10d/0x4d0
[06:54] <dupondje> Nobody else seems this since latest kernel update on disco?
[07:39] <apw> dupondje, i've not seen any reports of it now, you should report it
[07:39] <apw> (as if for nothing else, we have 50 kernels now and we have no idea which one you are running)
[07:57] <dupondje> Linux lt-jeanlouis 5.0.0-16-generic #17-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 15 10:52:21 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:57] <dupondje> anyway, I report :)
[07:57] <dupondje> just my 'screenshot' is a picture :D (was the only way as it was totally frozen)
[10:52] <TJ-> I'm doing a PPA upload of ubuntu-cosmic and getting build-failures due to missing abi symbols right at the end of the build from the dpkg tooling - I know those ABI symbols need to be there, but *how* is one supposed to create them in the source package that is uploaded to PPA?
[12:20] <TJ-> could be get this rtlwifi commit cherry-picked into the releases? nasty kernel memory leak uses up all memory inside a day (failing to free a sk_buf) Bug #1831751
[13:21] <smb> TJ-, The easy way would be not to start a new section in the changelog (debian.master/) but to modify the existing with a '+mybuild1'. If you do not care seeing all old changes in the changes
[13:22] <smb> TJ-, or rename debian.master/abi/<someversion> into <theversion which is now the previous version>
[18:15] <TJ-> smb: thank you, I'll try that :)


[00:39] <tgm4883> bobweaver, looking good
[00:40] <tgm4883> bobweaver, suggesting for the videos screen
[00:40] <tgm4883> have you thought of doing a video wall type effect?
[00:44] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  what is that ?
[00:44] <bobweaver> I am more trying to get the backend (SDK ) code together
[00:44] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I'm trying to find a screenshot of it
[00:45] <tgm4883> bobweaver, think of your gridview, but without titles and with zero space between video covers
[00:45] <tgm4883> then have the selected video "pop out" and increase in size about 10%
[00:45] <bobweaver> Oh users / devs can set all that info
[00:45] <bobweaver>  /xml files
[00:46] <bobweaver> what I am up to right now is making things like MythSlider MythPlayer all that stuff
[00:46] <tgm4883> ah ok
[00:46] <bobweaver> the backend stuff once that is sone I will make a basic wizard in qtcreator and it should not take a dev more then a couple of hours to make a theme
[00:47] <bobweaver> Just like how Ubuntu has a SDK and android and blackberry and what not now myth will have one
[00:47] <bobweaver> this way I do not have to keep up with  xml files that change alot
[00:48] <bobweaver> But if you would like to get a mythbuntu theme  going then by all means make some zcf files or whatever gimp files are
[00:49] <bobweaver> there is also a tool in gimp that you  an use called qml-exporter this will take images (layers) and make into qml !
[00:51] <bobweaver> er i was just about to go to the store to get ciggs and what not and the second I walk out the door It starts to pour cats and dogs style
[00:51] <tgm4883> heh
[00:52] <tgm4883> it's raining pretty hard here too
[00:52] <tgm4883> bobweaver, is there a guide on that somewhere?
[00:52] <tgm4883> the theming stuff
[01:00] <bobweaver> not yet as I am just writing all of it but the main thing is use qml
[01:00] <bobweaver> as far as using qml-exporter
[01:01] <bobweaver> it is super easy every layer (image or text that you make ) you just use that
[01:01] <bobweaver> the only thing that is super imporant is making sure that you do not flatten things
[01:01] <bobweaver> I think that I made packages for it somewhere
[01:02] <bobweaver> it is wrote in python so I am sure that you could even make it better
[01:02] <bobweaver> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~josephjamesmills/+junk/gimp-qmlexporter/files
[01:07] <bobweaver> tgm4883,  here is a ok tutorial of it http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2010/10/19/exporting-qml-from-photoshop-and-gimp/
[01:13] <bobweaver> er like right now I am dealing with some issues with the player and how much is buffered and how postion of the movie/show stuff like that in a file called MythProgession       then theme maker can just call MythProgrssion{ id:thisis; bufferColor:"blue"; progressColor: "#FFFFFF"; sliderbackgroundColor: "#88000000"}
[01:18] <bobweaver> yeah tgm4883  if you make any gimp stuff I will use your theme not only for the default theme but also I will strip it down and make it into the default wizard theme
[01:18] <bobweaver> wizard theme is like when you open qtcreator go to file -> new-> mythtvTheme
[01:19] <bobweaver> this is going to be so awesome in six months


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[14:55] <bdrung> !dmb-ping
[14:55] <bdrung> meeting in five minutes
[14:55] <ScottK> \o
[14:56] <bdrung> glatzor doesn't seem to be online
[14:57] <micahg> o/
[14:57]  * stgraber waves
[14:58] <bdrung> we are quorable
[14:59] <bdrung> quorable or quorumable
[14:59] <micahg> quorate
[15:00] <bdrung> good to know
[15:01] <bdrung> is our chair Laney here?
[15:01] <tumbleweed> hi
[15:01] <tumbleweed> cody-somerville: any chance you can change our calendar event to match the agenda?
[15:02] <tumbleweed> (or anyone with fridge calendar admin privileges)
[15:08] <micahg> #startmeeting Developer Membership Board
[15:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon May  6 15:08:04 2013 UTC.  The chair is micahg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:08] <micahg> welcome to the bi-weekly DMB meeting
[15:08] <micahg> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:08] <micahg> #subtopic bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship
[15:09] <micahg> bdrung: I think this is done, right?
[15:09] <barry> micahg: it has been done
[15:09] <micahg> #subtopic barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list
[15:09] <bdrung> yes
[15:09] <barry> not done, but will do so this week
[15:09] <micahg> so, this wasn't done yet as we're still discussing the feedback
[15:10] <micahg> #subtopic all: review separation of ppu from membership
[15:10] <bdrung> should we discuss it here or on email?
[15:10] <micahg> bdrung: email I think
[15:10] <micahg> bdrung: which thing?
[15:11] <bdrung> micahg: i could answer your questions and we could discuss it here or i response via email after the meetinng
[15:12] <micahg> bdrung: yeah, I think email is better
[15:12] <bdrung> okay
[15:13] <micahg> so, what about the PPU/membership stuff, did we have consensus?
[15:13] <bdrung> i think so
[15:13] <tumbleweed> looked like it
[15:13] <barry> yes
[15:14] <micahg> ok, so I guess we need a vote, should we wait until next time when Laney is present?
[15:14] <micahg> or does the list count as the vote?
[15:15] <bdrung> why should we wait for him?
[15:15] <tumbleweed> list vote counts as far as I'm concerned
[15:16] <micahg> oh, we haven't heard from stgraber yet who raised the objections originally
[15:17] <micahg> so, I'll try to ping him for feedback this week and we can announce the change at the next meeting hopefully
[15:17] <micahg> #action micahg to ping stgraber for feedback on PPU/membership decoupling proposal
[15:17] <meetingology> ACTION: micahg to ping stgraber for feedback on PPU/membership decoupling proposal
[15:17] <micahg> #topic PerPackageUploader Applications
[15:17] <micahg> hrm, I still don't see glatzor around
[15:18] <micahg> I guess we can wait a few minutes (until :20), otherwise, I'll wrap the meeting
[15:19] <barry> darn.  he said he was going to be here this week. :/
[15:19] <stgraber> micahg: sorry, been sprinting last week, will try to go through that thread and reply this week
[15:21] <micahg> barry: well, hopefully next time...
[15:21] <micahg> #topic AOB
[15:21] <micahg> anything else?
[15:22] <micahg> stgraber: thanks
[15:22] <barry> nothing from me
[15:22] <bdrung> i don't think so
[15:22] <micahg> #endmeeting
[15:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon May  6 15:22:50 2013 UTC.
[15:22] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-06-15.08.moin.txt
[15:22] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-06-15.08.html
[15:22] <micahg> thanks everyone!
[15:23] <tumbleweed> thanks micahg
[15:23] <barry> thanks micahg
[16:33] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:34] <jjohansen> hi
[16:34] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:34] <tyhicks> hello!
[16:34] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
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[16:34] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:34] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:34] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:34] <jdstrand> Evan Broder (broder) provided a debdiff for lucid for libapache-mod-security (LP: #1169030)
[16:34] <jdstrand> Scott Kitterman (ScottK) provided a debdiff for hardy for clamav and new package for saucy (LP: #1172981)
[16:34] <jdstrand> Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)
[16:35] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:35] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[16:35] <jdstrand> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:35] <jdstrand> I've got openjdk-6 updates to finish testing and publish
[16:36] <jdstrand> last week a very productive week, and I've got lots of notes to assimilate and things to follow-up on, so I'll be doing that quite a bit
[16:36] <jdstrand> there is an embargoed issue I'm going to be looking at
[16:37] <jdstrand> and patch piloting
[16:37] <jdstrand> that's it from me. mdeslaur, you're up
[16:37] <mdeslaur> I'm on triage this week
[16:37] <mdeslaur> and I have a few updates in the sec ppa to test and hopefully release this week
[16:37] <mdeslaur> that's it from me
[16:37] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'm working on apparmor stuff this week
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'm currently finishing up a couple of carried over work items, the aa-easyprof templates for qml apps and html5 apps
[16:39] <sbeattie> after that, I'll move on to modifying aa-easyprof to take a manifest file and emit policy
[16:40] <sbeattie> That's pretty much it for me.
[16:40] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:40] <tyhicks> This week, I'm working on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-s-appisolation-dbus-performance
[16:40] <tyhicks> I finshed my carryover work item last week
[16:40] <tyhicks> I'm wrapping up "adjust policy language to better match the network rule style and use more appropriate dbus keywords"
[16:41] <tyhicks> then I'll move on to the performance testing work items
[16:41] <tyhicks> then chat w/ jj to determine the best route forward to improve performance (if needed) and start on those changes
[16:41] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:41] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:42] <jjohansen> hi I'm am working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-s-appisolation-signals-ipc-ptrace
[16:43] <jjohansen> and doing a little prep for tomorrows apparmor meeting
[16:44] <jjohansen> sarnold: your up
[16:44] <sarnold> I'm on community this week
[16:44] <sarnold> I'll be doing some patch review for john, and if steve or tyler have anything ready, that'd be fun too :)
[16:45] <tyhicks> I have some stuff that I can send up this week
[16:45] <sarnold> I may also look over some seccomp patches for upstart, that sounds like a good wayto reduce attack surfaces overall, and some of our time on it would probably eb worthwhile
[16:45] <sarnold> tyhicks: woot :)
[16:46] <sarnold> I think that's it for me, and I don't see steakbot^Wchrisccoulson, so jdstrand, your turn
[16:46] <jdstrand> yeah, it is a UK holiday
[16:47] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:47] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:47] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:47] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php-htmlpurifier.html
[16:47] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mpack.html
[16:47] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gnash.html
[16:47] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/geshi.html
[16:47] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libpoe-component-pubsub-perl.html
[16:47] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:48] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:54] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold: thanks!
[16:54] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[16:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon May  6 16:54:05 2013 UTC.
[16:54] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-06-16.34.moin.txt
[16:54] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-06-16.34.html
[16:54] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand!
[16:54] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:54] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[16:54] <sbeattie> thanks jdstrand
[16:54] <sarnold> thanks jdstrand :)