[00:00] <monstaRtruck> w the driver i got from nvidia site
[00:00] <alexeikarp_> Hello everyone. I'm a complete newbie and I would really like your help on one subject: I am running a machine with ubuntu 11.10 and I have a mobile broadband connection setup. Is there any way of forcing this connection alive after the machine boots up?
[00:01] <monstaRtruck> sum1 help me not be nuub
[00:02]  * R3db3ard wonders which is best: AppArmor or selinux
[00:04] <pozican> I'm missing the windows preferences from the system settings menu; is there anything I need to do to get it there?
[00:06] <monstaRtruck> how do i use that ppa
[00:06] <monstaRtruck> stuff
[00:06] <Soci3ty> rm -rf
[00:06] <EvilResistance> monstaRtruck:  are you asking how to use a PPA?
[00:07] <EvilResistance> if so, in what context?  to install packages it uses?
[00:07] <monstaRtruck> ya
[00:07] <EvilResistance> Soci3ty:  can we help you?
[00:07] <Soci3ty> EvilResistance: eeh somebody meantioned a new bot here
[00:07] <Soci3ty> just wanted to see it
[00:07] <Soci3ty> :)
[00:07] <EvilResistance> Soci3ty:  there is no new bot here.  what "new bot" was this?
[00:07] <Soci3ty> warning about rm -rf
[00:07] <Soci3ty> not to run it
[00:07] <monstaRtruck> just want to install nvidia drivers
[00:07] <EvilResistance> it would warn about rm -rf /
[00:07] <EvilResistance> nothing else
[00:07] <bobweaver> !rm
[00:07] <qin> !danger
[00:07] <EvilResistance> monstaRtruck:  from where?
[00:07] <monstaRtruck> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[00:08] <alexeikarp_> Hello all! I have a network settings question. Would anyone be willing to help me?
[00:08] <qin> Soci3ty: Is that what fillful your silliness?
[00:08] <Soci3ty> :P
[00:08] <Soci3ty> i remember few years ago
[00:08] <monstaRtruck> silly goose
[00:08] <Soci3ty> when i had first installed linux
[00:08] <Soci3ty> somebody had me run it
[00:09] <monstaRtruck> haha
[00:09] <monstaRtruck> it was me
[00:09] <Soci3ty> lol
[00:09] <Soci3ty> back then i didnt even know what a fucking command line was
[00:09] <qin> Soci3ty, monstaRtruck: There is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:09] <Soci3ty> :P
[00:09] <Matrix30001> isn't it "sudo rm -rf /"
[00:10] <EvilResistance> monstaRtruck:  in the terminal:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[00:10] <Soci3ty> not if your root
[00:10] <EvilResistance> monstaRtruck:  then sudo apt-get update
[00:10] <Matrix30001> cant do "rm -rf /" without sudo
[00:10] <Matrix30001> true
[00:10] <EvilResistance> monstaRtruck:  it might then work.  even so, you need to know which specific package you need to install
[00:10] <Matrix30001> but on ubuntu to become root requires sudo -s
[00:10] <Soci3ty> most of my systems only have a root account
[00:11] <Soci3ty> so :P
[00:11] <Matrix30001> you created one for some reason?
[00:11] <bobweaver> Soci3ty,  O_o
[00:11] <Matrix30001> security risk much?
[00:11] <Soci3ty> no i do vps's
[00:11] <Soci3ty> templates i made only have a root account
[00:11] <monstaRtruck> how come its not showing up in additional drivers
[00:12] <ngc0202> Hey
[00:12] <Matrix30001> you aren't doing this to production servers or systems right?
[00:12] <ngc0202> Is there anyway to make sure my OS install is all good?
[00:12] <qin> Soci3ty: Then you are complete incompetent to connect and run remote system as root, anyone would sack you on the spot.
[00:12] <Soci3ty> Matrix30001: our production vps's only have the root account enabled
[00:12] <Soci3ty> its impossible not to
[00:12] <Matrix30001> .....
[00:12] <Matrix30001> wow
[00:13] <Soci3ty> my vps nodes
[00:13] <Soci3ty> dont
[00:13] <Soci3ty> you have to ssh in as another user then su to root
[00:13] <Matrix30001> Socie3ty, we leave all root logins disabled and make sure you have to has sudo rights
[00:13] <Matrix30001> make sure you have to have sudo rights to run commands
[00:13] <Soci3ty> Matrix30001: you know how a vps works?
[00:14] <Soci3ty> its pretty hard to pipe in a username
[00:14] <Matrix30001> well its an image, you can push down
[00:14] <Soci3ty> create a user
[00:14] <Soci3ty> automatically
[00:14] <Matrix30001> cant you create that by script??
[00:14] <qin> Soci3ty: adduser or useradd, you really already proven it. Stop.
[00:14] <Soci3ty> Matrix30001: it would require root access
[00:15] <Soci3ty> on the main hub
[00:15] <Soci3ty> which is quite insecure
[00:15] <Matrix30001> that's what sudo is for
[00:15]  * Soci3ty facepalms
[00:15] <Matrix30001> then you execute the script with sudo
[00:15] <nixxo> hello all i'm trying to install ubuntu right now. i'm not sure where to install the bootloader... i've got windows on one partition and wanting to put ubuntu on another right now
[00:16] <Matrix30001> i guess i don't sacrafice security for simplicity
[00:16] <Guest45473> ciao
[00:16] <Matrix30001> but that's just me
[00:16] <monstaRtruck> how come the drivers i got from nvidia.com mess up my themes?
[00:16] <|||||||||> Who needs Windows? just delete Windows and start anew.
[00:16] <nixxo> great answer
[00:16] <nixxo> but that's not going to work for my situation
[00:16] <Matrix30001> nixxo you didn't use the Wubi?
[00:17] <nixxo> no i didn't i booted from a live usb
[00:17] <Matrix30001> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[00:17] <Matrix30001> how many partitions do you have then
[00:18] <monstaRtruck> just install nixxo
[00:18] <Matrix30001> the bootloader has to know you have windows on there
[00:18] <monstaRtruck> on another partition
[00:18] <nixxo> i've got 3. sda1 is windows. sda2 is storage ntfs. sda3 will be ubuntu
[00:18] <monstaRtruck> after reboot grub2 will take over and ur windows will be in it
[00:18] <|||||||||> When I first used Ubuntu, I had Windows on my machine, and it will prompt you, it was easy, and worked very well.
[00:18] <Matrix30001> sda1
[00:18] <Matrix30001> i believe
[00:18] <Matrix30001> then should ask which system to boot into
[00:18] <monstaRtruck> recovering grub2 is easy
[00:18] <Matrix30001> but why not use a vm?
[00:18] <Matrix30001> :P
[00:19] <nixxo> from what i understand, grub will remove windows loader and then i wont have windows anymore
[00:19] <monstaRtruck> no
[00:19] <monstaRtruck> grub2 will have windows loader in it
[00:19] <monstaRtruck> once u click win loader
[00:19] <nixxo> when i used 11.04 i had a nightmare with that
[00:19] <nixxo> you sure?
[00:19] <monstaRtruck> ull be taken to windows boot options
[00:20] <monstaRtruck> from there u select ur win os
[00:20] <monstaRtruck> its a loader w in a loader
[00:20] <|||||||||> after installing, you will get a prompt to ask you what to load: Windows or Ubuntu
[00:20] <monstaRtruck> if anything fails which it wont
[00:20] <nixxo> ok. so again, which partitition will i install grub to? sda, sda1, sda3?
[00:20] <hicham> hi
[00:20] <rchavik> how do i make services NOT start automatically at boot ?
[00:21] <monstaRtruck> nixxo it doesnt ask you where
[00:21] <monstaRtruck> it just asks you to pick a partition
[00:21] <monstaRtruck> and mount point which is /
[00:21] <ShamanicFreedom> after installing back track, how do you change root and password?
[00:21] <eazyigz> I am having a hard time connecting to my Epson NX110 printer.  I already installed the Linux driver for it.  Any ideas?
[00:21] <nixxo> it says device for bootloader installation in the installer on the liveusb
[00:21] <hicham> im using ubuntu 11.10 my computer always asking me for the internet password.what should i do to make it automatic
[00:21] <hicham> ?/??
[00:21] <hicham> ?/??
[00:21] <Oer> !backtrack | ShamanicFreedom
[00:22] <hicham> thanks in advance
[00:22] <monstaRtruck> that should be /deb/sba
[00:22] <|||||||||> rchavik: System then "startup applications"
[00:22] <monstaRtruck> because it goes on the main drive not in partition
[00:22] <nixxo> monstaRtruck you sure?
[00:22] <monstaRtruck> ya
[00:22] <nixxo> cool. i'm going with that.
[00:23] <monstaRtruck> always leave a 1G empty space on ur drive
[00:23] <monstaRtruck> thats where the mbr lives
[00:23] <monstaRtruck> grub lives in /boot
[00:23] <kyan> In the process of installing a dual boot of Ubuntu and Mac OS, I accidentally deleted the partition table (thinking I was converting it from GPT to MBR). What should I do?!
[00:23] <monstaRtruck> worst case scenario restore grub
[00:23] <monstaRtruck> 2 commands
[00:24] <rchavik> |||||||||, i want postgresql to start manually, but postgresql does not appear there..
[00:24] <monstaRtruck> sudo mount /dev/sdaX /boot
[00:24] <monstaRtruck> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot/ /dev/sdX
[00:25] <monstaRtruck> sudo update-grub
[00:25] <|||||||||> sorry rchavik, Im just a user of Ubuntu. but hang around and maybe one of the techies can help you.
[00:25] <nixxo> for my particular situation, sudo mount /dev/sda /boot ???
[00:25] <heoyea> ?
[00:25] <monstaRtruck> no
[00:25] <monstaRtruck> it need the number
[00:25] <rchavik> |||||||||, no problem.thanks.
[00:25] <monstaRtruck> ur mounting the partition
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> the second line ur ommiting the nuymber
[00:26] <nixxo> what number? you just said to install the bootloader to sda  and not sda1 or sda3
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot/ /dev/sdX
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> omg
[00:26] <nixxo> lmao
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> 1st line mounts ur partition
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> so u can write to it
[00:26] <nils_> how can I disable the graphic boot for plymouth? I really only want the old text based bootscreen
[00:26] <monstaRtruck> second line
[00:27] <monstaRtruck> installs grub to the disk
[00:27] <monstaRtruck> not a partition
[00:27] <monstaRtruck> u get it
[00:27] <nixxo> you use teamviewer? take a look for me please... i'd hate to mess up
[00:27] <nixxo> i do get it but still. worried
[00:27] <monstaRtruck> ur installing mbr to the disk
[00:28] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, I'm having heat problems with a laptop - it frequently gets very warm, for no apparent reason - CPU usage low, the nVidia driver is uninstalled (I have both an integrated Intel video card and an Nvidia one in a Optimus setup), I see no logical reason for it developing so much heat. In Win7 (dual boot), it doesn't have heat issues to anywhere near the same extent... suggestions?
[00:28] <monstaRtruck> ur telling mbr to use grub on partition
[00:28] <monstaRtruck> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot/ /dev/sdX
[00:28] <monstaRtruck> http://maketecheasier.com/restore-grub-2-as-the-main-bootloader/2010/05/05
[00:28] <dudeman> I am having trouble with the new version, when installing I have two partitions 150g for win  7 and 850g for storage. for some reason the installer method "install along side windows 7" hides my windows 7 partition and only lists my storage partition. Any way to make the installer list all partitions other than the manual method
[00:28] <dudeman> ?
[00:29] <monstaRtruck> use /boot instead of /mnt
[00:29] <Drone4four> i can't move the counts of a directory to my home folder...i'm trying to use the mv command but it says it doesn't recognize the recursive operator, -R
[00:29] <Drone4four> see here: gnull@oneiric:/media/8d070516-2f12-4a32-85d3-c36d04a49f56/home/danielhomefolderfromnatty2$ mv -R * /home/daniel
[00:29] <Drone4four> mv: invalid option -- 'R'
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Drone4four: use -r not -R
[00:29] <Drone4four> both don't work, ActionParsnip
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Drone4four: or -a ?
[00:29] <Drone4four> i'll try -a
[00:30] <dudeman> well thanks anyway, maybe I will submit a bug
[00:30] <Drone4four> ActionParsnip, -r, -R and -a both are unrecognized
[00:30] <nixxo> monstaRtruck can you just have a look with teamviewer?
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> i gota go
[00:31] <Drone4four> i mean all three, not both
[00:31] <nixxo> ok
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> just install it
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> u dont need to restore grub yet
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> jeeez
[00:31] <heoyea> smash pc
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> when it asks u where to put bootloader
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> thats mbr
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> so put that in sda
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> no number
[00:31] <monstaRtruck> sdX
[00:32] <heoyea> is usually sda or sdb
[00:32] <nixxo> ok. done with my questions. just doing it now
[00:32] <monstaRtruck> nixo ur geting ahead
[00:32] <monstaRtruck> if it fails then use live cd
[00:32] <monstaRtruck> type those 3 comands
[00:32] <monstaRtruck> restart
[00:32] <Drone4four> ActionParsnip, any idea why -a, -R and -r are unrecognized? what else could i try?
[00:32] <itaylor57> maybe man mv is in order to look at the options
[00:33] <heoyea> ?
[00:33] <Drone4four> ah yes, I used cp rather than mv and that worked
[00:33] <Pici> Drone4four: you don't need any arguments to do a 'recursive move'
[00:34] <glue> how i update my 10.04 release to 11.10 ?
[00:34] <glue> im running ppc
[00:34] <glue> i did update-manager -d
[00:34] <glue> but suggests 10.10
[00:34] <glue> i want to go directly to 11.10
[00:35] <rchavik> |||||||||, fyi, found sysv-rc-conf package that does this
[00:35] <Pici> glue: You need to upgrade through every intermediary release. There is no supported upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.10
[00:35] <glue> oh that sucks :(
[00:35] <glue> okay im doing it
[00:37] <|||||||||> cool rchavik glad it works for you. i learn a lot just reading this chat
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> glue: I'd do a clean install. It'll get you to Oneiric faster and you will get a cleaner OS
[00:45] <glue>  iv ran out of cd's lol
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> glue: USB or SD card etc?
[00:46] <glue> on emac ppc
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> glue: as long as the system can boot USB, it'sfine
[00:48] <nag_> #noc
[00:48] <glue> nah i dont think it can
[00:48] <glue> ActionParsnip, ill do a fresh install when it breaks
[00:48] <glue> i got the dist upgrade going to 10.10
[00:48] <gskellig> what are the downsides of a separate /home
[00:49] <groundnuty> hey, any info when ubuntu is planning to adopt Wayland?
[00:49] <john75077> hi all - anyone here that could give me some simpler instructions to install a CA certificate?
[00:50] <rickb06> figured out my permissions, never trust webmin.
[00:51] <PCPDCG> gskellig: The space is limited by the partition you made
[00:51] <gskellig> can't you resize partitions though
[00:51] <gskellig> as long as they aren't mounted
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> rickb06: webmin isn't compatible with ubuntu
[00:52] <PCPDCG> yes but its a bit more trouble and you cannot unmount main while you are using your installation
[00:53] <DerpyHoovy> Hey, can someone help me out with an installation problem?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> glue: good move
[00:54] <DerpyHoovy> error: unknown filesystem; grub rescue> - BootRepair attempt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727578/
[00:54] <glue> ActionParsnip, any idea if opengl works
[00:55] <nils_> heh I just upgraded from 9.04 to 11.10
[00:56] <glue> nils_, how
[00:56] <nils_> works reasonably well considering how screwed up that whole system is at the moment (network bootable rescue system)
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> glue: in what way?
[00:59] <qmanjr5> Why is it I can run Unity-2D perfectly fine, but I can't use Unity? When I try to, I can't do anything. Nothing is clickable. This happened after I installed the latest version of the nVidia driver :/
[01:00] <reisio> qmanjr5: downgrade your nvidia driver, then
[01:00] <YoungMoney112233> hello peeps
[01:00] <reisio> 2+2=4
[01:00] <reisio> YoungMoney112233: hi
[01:00] <qmanjr5> reisio, how am I supposed to do that?
[01:00] <pozican> I want focus follows mouse. You used to change this settign in windows preferences in the system panel. After upgrading to 11.10 windows preferences is no longer there. How do I get focus follows mouse back?
[01:01] <YoungMoney112233> Do we have any time travellers in the room?
[01:01] <reisio> qmanjr5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto maybe, though it's possible you'll only need to skip a single version
[01:01] <nils_> ask me yesterday.
[01:01] <reisio> YoungMoney112233: no I'm not a time traveller, and I'll thank you to stop bringing it up
[01:01] <scottj> I've got shift-insert (paste from other apps) working in urxvt until I select some text in urxvt at which point shift-ins only pastes what I selected in urxvt, even if I make new selections in other apps. ideas?
[01:02] <reisio> pozican: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse
[01:02] <pozican> Wow, that's not annoying
[01:02] <pozican> reisio: thanks  :)
[01:02] <Generalcamo> I need help with Ubuntu software manager
[01:02] <Generalcamo> It seems, I cannot install anything
[01:03] <Generalcamo> Error message "The action would require the installation of packages from unauthorized sources
[01:03] <Generalcamo> And that is not just with wine, with Ubuntu updates, and more
[01:03] <Uns0b1ll> hello, can i somehow check in ubuntu if my NIC cards 802.1q compatible ? thanks
[01:03] <qmanjr5> Also, why does my theme sometime change to this one? http://imgur.com/JTiMs  It's usually the default one, but it sometimes changes to this, and I'm unable to change it back. :/
[01:03] <qmanjr5> And then it'll randomly come back
[01:03] <oops> Hey folks, I'm a just a tad confused. I went to run Lampp and descovered I was already running an apache2 server.... is this standard on 11.10 for should I be worried.
[01:04] <PCPDCG> Generalcamo: You have a source that is not verified
[01:04] <oops> or*
[01:04] <DerpyHoovy> I need help with installation [11.10]. Boot-Repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727578/ Dual booting Windows 7 & 11.10 - Unknown Filesystem, grub rescue>
[01:04] <Generalcamo> How is that possible?
[01:04] <Generalcamo> With ubuntu updates?
[01:04] <qmanjr5> oops, check where you're running it from.
[01:04] <Generalcamo> They should be verified on installlation of ubuntu
[01:04] <qmanjr5> oops, if it's in its default directory, and that is empty, then you're fine.
[01:04] <magn3ts> LOL@Calibre
[01:05] <oops> lemme check.
[01:05] <Generalcamo> Well, how would I verify it?
[01:06] <Generalcamo> How would I verify a source in ubuntu?
[01:06] <oops> its running out of etc/apache2
[01:07] <PCPDCG> Generalcamo: You have to get the key for the PPA. There are some instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:07] <qmanjr5> Sorry, what I meant was what your web directory is. By default it's in /var/www
[01:07] <qmanjr5> Put a test file in there
[01:07] <smango> is there a way to turn off the unity backlight and have it never hide the launcher bar without installing that compiz-config program?
[01:07] <qmanjr5> gksudo gedit /var/www/index.php
[01:07] <qmanjr5> then put in <?php phpinfo() ?>
[01:07] <qmanjr5> Or, you can just put a blank .html file in it
[01:07] <qmanjr5> with Hello
[01:08] <qmanjr5> I would do the first one, 'cause then you won't have to trouble figuring out if you're running an entire LAMP setup
[01:08] <Stanley00> smango: you can, using gconf tools,
[01:09] <oops> ah, its just got the default page in it, I'm newbie from windows so I was a little concerned
[01:09] <oops> thanks
[01:09] <qmanjr5> No problem.
[01:09] <qmanjr5> It's odd however, that it was already installed
[01:09] <qmanjr5> As far as I know it shouldn't be.
[01:09] <oops> I know, thats where I was confused
[01:09] <qmanjr5> Well, no harm done.
[01:09] <robin0800> nixxo, it should just be sda the root of the drive not a partition
[01:10] <Stanley00> smango: all keys are at /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options in my case
[01:12] <ShamanicFreedom> Hello
[01:12] <ShamanicFreedom> people from miami please text me
[01:13] <qmanjr5> lolwtf?
[01:13] <qmanjr5> kthomas_vh_, is your first name Kevin? I know someone named Kevin Thomas...that's weird.
[01:14] <raptor67682> would you be happy to have such a little PDA  OQO ? http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/articles/2inhand_white.jpg
[01:14] <tensorpudding> wow what a terrible device
[01:15] <tensorpudding> that's surely a faked image
[01:15] <scottj> it used to cost $2k
[01:15] <DerpyHoovy> I need help with installation [11.10]. Boot-Repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/727578/ Dual booting Windows 7 & 11.10 - Unknown Filesystem, grub rescue>
[01:15] <reisio> tensorpudding: even if it is, it exists
[01:16] <reisio> unfortunately it's pretty wide if you look at it from the side
[01:16] <reisio> these days smart phones are smaller and better designed
[01:16] <robin0800> nixxo, yes sda sdb sdc etc
[01:17] <tensorpudding> no one would want to use a device that small with a pointer that you control like that
[01:17] <reisio> tensorpudding: luckily it's so expensive few people have the opportunity to
[01:17] <tensorpudding> that thing actually sells for $2k?
[01:18] <tensorpudding> who would spend that much for something like that
[01:19] <reisio> tensorpudding: same people who would spend that much on anything: people with more money than sense
[01:20] <tensorpudding> $2k would be reasonable for a comfortable, future-proof workstation
[01:20] <reisio> future proof is a joke these days
[01:20] <reisio> more like a waste of $1500
[01:21] <nils_> I heard they went for like $5k on ebay
[01:21] <reisio> I heard that
[01:21] <reisio> but I heard there was two of'm
[01:22] <robin0800> nixxo, I have never specified the root directory if you have no boot partition it is not needed
[01:22] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, are you real attached to using that boot repair app I think you just need to reload grub to the mbr with a lucid cd and boot in.
[01:23] <john75077> any certificate experts here?
[01:24] <robin0800> nixxo, sudo grub-install /dev/sda ......... is all you need
[01:24] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, follow this link it defaults to the load grub from the cd use a lucid cd and read carefully if you get into the installed OS run a super update-grub then not from the live cd
[01:25] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[01:25] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, sorry sudo update-grub     DOH.:D
[01:26] <thoeger> TRying again - isn't there a way to reconfigure X and redetect hardware, like there used to be with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:27] <wonderworld> thoeger: which hardware is not working?
[01:28] <thoeger> wonderworld, for some reason, my wifi card and trackpad and even sound has stopped working (works a charm from bootable live media)
[01:29] <Jordan_U> thoeger: Wireless and sound have nothing to do with Xorg.
[01:30] <reisio> take that you various IPs!
[01:30] <thoeger> Jordan_U, okay must be something else then
[01:30] <thoeger> Jordan_U, wonderworld Any idea what can be up? The devices are simply not detevted even though they are when booted from live USB stick
[01:32] <Jordan_U> thoeger: Is the LiveUSB the same version of Ubuntu?
[01:32] <NoWayJose> How do you completely remove ubuntu from a computer?
[01:33] <NoWayJose> I am wanting to do a clean install.  The computer has 9.04 and I am wanting to upgrade to 11.04
[01:33] <urlin2u> NoWayJose, just 9.04?
[01:33] <fishhead> just install it overtop 9.04
[01:33] <NoWayJose> urlin2u, Yes, I am wanting to delete 9.04
[01:33] <thoeger> Jordan_U, yes, I ran an upgrade 11.10 to 11.10 from it (that might have been a risky business but something in the latest update broke my X)
[01:33] <Jordan_U> NoWayJose: Just do a fresh install using the entire drive.
[01:34] <NoWayJose> It will erase 9.04 auto?.
[01:34] <fishhead> yes
[01:34] <NoWayJose> ok thats what i needed to know, thanks
[01:34] <urlin2u> NoWayJose, the install will give you option to use the whole disc that will delete it and build the new partitions
[01:34] <thoeger> NoWayJose, Yes but be aware that it will also remove all files on the drive, so make a backup of whatever documents and music and stuff you have there
[01:34] <Jordan_U> NoWayJose: If you tell the installer to use the whole drive, yes.
[01:34] <NoWayJose> ok cool
[01:35] <NoWayJose> appreciate it guys
[01:39] <jjgalvez__> my empathy contact list gets messed up when I mouse over it, anyone have any idea how to fix it or troubleshoot it?
[01:41] <chaospsychex> ahoy ubuntites!
[01:41] <Sinjet> Ahoy chaospsychex.
[01:42] <n0ti0nis> hi
[01:42] <urlin2u> chaospsychex, argh matey
[01:43] <KadirB> dd
[01:45] <ssfdre38> Movie Player is saying it needs a DVD decryption install, what package should i get?
[01:47] <cordor> what do i need to internet sharing to a router? internet from wlan and eth0 to router
[01:47] <Jordan_U> !dvd | ssfdre38
[01:48] <Jordan_U> cordor: Network manager can do it.
[01:50] <pis0ga> Hi all. I'm playing CS 1.6 on Lucid & Wine 1.2.2. All things are good but my CS window is auto-scaled to full screen. In  my Windows XP, there is an option called Scale Monitor (in graphic driver). if I disable "scaling" the CS' window will have two black bars placed on left & right and this makes the scene in that game to be more proper (proper ratio). I try to search on google but cannot find anything, so somebody can help me out please. Thanks.
[01:50] <cordor> Jordan_U: I follow the document about ICS, but wherever i enable the eth0, my computer don't have access to internet.
[01:50] <reisio> pis0ga: check winecfg
[01:50] <NOSaturn> Question.... how do i tell if i'm using the best drivers for my computer?
[01:50] <cordor> and the ip of eth0 set to 10.....
[01:50] <reisio> NOSaturn: outside of graphics drivers, there's usually only one driver per device
[01:51] <reisio> when they overlap, the inferior drivers are usually culled from repos & source
[01:51] <NOSaturn> reisio, i'm more or less talking about my graphics driver :)
[01:51] <reisio> as for graphics drivers, you'll have to test each and decide which you prefer
[01:52] <NOSaturn> how do i find graphics drivers?
[01:52] <NOSaturn> intel's website has a big tarball i downloaded
[01:52] <reisio> NOSaturn: lspci | grep -i vga will tell you your device
[01:52] <pis0ga> Reikoku, I checked it but found nothing. There's only "emulate a virtual desktop", that not my wish :D.
[01:52] <reisio> NOSaturn: you virtually never should be going to a website to get packages in Linux
[01:52] <DerpyHoovy> Sorry, I'm a complete noob here. Error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[01:53] <reisio> NOSaturn: if you have an intel device you're probably already using the best driver
[01:53] <DerpyHoovy> on sudo update-grub
[01:53] <quixotedon> i'm using firefox and trying to access cisco webex with my java enabled, i also downloaded openjdk java7 run time, but why the website still says that my java is disabled
[01:53] <NOSaturn> reisio, oh? the system info says the graphics are unknown
[01:53] <reisio> NOSaturn: well then that app is dumb
[01:54] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, did you follow the link reboot to the install and run that command?
[01:55] <DerpyHoovy> Oh, I didn't rebooot to the install. Ok
[01:55] <Scott0> anyone have experiences with lubuntu?
[01:55] <NOSaturn> reisio, so i used lspci... it just says "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[01:55] <NOSaturn> "
[01:55] <NOSaturn> about right then?
[01:55] <reisio> NOSaturn: yes, it's unlikely you have a choice of drivers, you're probably already using the only logical choice
[01:55] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, do the commnds again if it does not give you the grub menu, running that update-grub may have broken your work.
[01:56] <reisio> NOSaturn: but if you're interested, lspci -k | less will tell you
[01:56] <DerpyHoovy> Ok...
[01:56] <quixotedon> i'm using firefox and trying to access cisco webex with my java enabled, i also downloaded openjdk java7 run time, but why the website still says that my java is disabled then when i access the website, i can't listen to the audio (ciscowebex is a webinar)
[01:58] <NOSaturn> reisio, thank you.  i now feel better
[01:59] <reisio> NOSaturn: it's more ati and nvidia cards that have more than one driver to choose from
[02:00] <quixotedon> guys, i need your help.. the webinar is happening now, anyway 11.04 hasn't got any issue with.. i'm using 11.10 now
[02:00] <NOSaturn> reisio, thanks.
[02:00] <reisio> quixotedon: ?
[02:01] <quixotedon> reisio: i'm using firefox and trying to access cisco webex with my java enabled, i also downloaded openjdk java7 run time, but why the website still says that my java is disabled then when i access the website, i can't listen to the audio (ciscowebex is a webinar)
[02:01] <Starminn> Ubuntu 11.10 > Nautilus keeps forgetting my icon set. I've tried unity --replace but it had no effect.
[02:01] <ejv> hi
[02:02] <ejv> whats the name of the ubuntu app that can monitor a software raid?
[02:02] <ejv> (gui)
[02:02] <railbait> I resized a partition from Windows, but don't have a CD burner. I'd like to install a full/normal version of Ubuntu to that partition, but I hear Wubi isn't quite as fast due to some disk issues
[02:02] <railbait> Is this true?
[02:03] <reisio> railbait: more or less
[02:03] <reisio> railbait: do you have a USB stick?
[02:03] <railbait> Not at the moment, I could probably get one cheap though
[02:03] <reisio> what wubi does is install Ubuntu into _a file_ inside your Windows NTFS filesystem
[02:03] <railbait> Then boot off of htat
[02:03] <railbait> Right
[02:03] <reisio> it's less than ideal, to put it conservatively
[02:03] <railbait> Vmware style
[02:03] <FloodBot1> railbait: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <reisio> railbait: yes they're pretty cheap
[02:04] <dr_willis> seen 4 gb usb on sale for $5. even a 2gb works
[02:04] <railbait> Yeah just has to fit the CD basically
[02:04] <dr_willis> not seen a 1gb in years
[02:04] <railbait> That'll work for me. Thanks for the advice
[02:05] <urlin2u> railbait, actually not having a cd or loadable is not good practice, the cd is a good tool to have.
[02:05] <urlin2u> usb*
[02:05] <dr_willis> my whole linux install is on a 32 gb flash ;)
[02:05] <reisio> dr_willis: oh yeah?  Mine's on a 31 GB flash!
[02:06]  * reisio wins
[02:06] <railbait> I have a CD drive, it just happens to not be a CD burner, it's a million years old
[02:06] <railbait> $ isn't the issue, just seeing if I could get it done tonight
[02:06] <railbait> Pajama mode
[02:06] <dr_willis> i dd it to new machines as a fast way to clone them. :-)
[02:07] <railbait> I'll dd it by hand like a baus
[02:07] <dr_willis> railbait: you could dd the iso to a small hard disk
[02:07] <Amdpc> Hi..is there any way to broadcast music from my computer over wifi ?
[02:07] <Starminn> Why isn't Nautilus respecting my choice of icon set? It keeps reverting back to the GNOME defaults. (In Ubuntu 11.10 - Unity)
[02:08] <urlin2u> Starminn, how are you doing it?
[02:08] <dr_willis> Amdpc: broadcast to what receiver
[02:08] <DerpyHoovy> No luck, same error: unknown filesystem, grub rescue
[02:08] <Starminn> Amdpc, Perhaps something like this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/radio-broadcasting-made-easy-with-internet-dj-console/ ?
[02:08] <Starminn> urlin2u, What do you mean?
[02:09] <urlin2u> Starminn, how are you changing the icons, say individually or through with the gnome tweak tool.
[02:10] <Amdpc> dr_willis :To other pc's with wifi...I want to stream live audio..My pc as transmitter and others as recievers (all using WIFI)
 Let me seee..
[02:10] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, can you give a description on your follow the link.
[02:10] <urlin2u> following*
[02:11] <Starminn> urlin2u, Gnome Tweak. The one's I've changed individually work perfectly (and they're in the same directory as the rest of the icons, etc., and the launcher respects them as well -- just not unspecified Nautilus ones)
[02:11] <DerpyHoovy> I loaded up the Live CD, mounted /dev/sda3, and grub-installed --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[02:12] <DerpyHoovy> Here, send me a PM on Ubuntu forums (tman0) - I g2g
[02:13] <bagels> does anyone else have problems in banshee, when it skips to the next song, it crashes?
[02:13] <urlin2u> DerpyHoovy, you may have to try the other options below the first there is a chroot and a purge and reinstall of grub. Take a look at your partitions from gparted as well and see if the any errors on them.
[02:14] <scwizard> when I try to install postfix the ncurses interface or whatever is horrible and I can't read anything
[02:14] <Starminn> bagels, Apparently some do. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/763781
[02:15] <bagels> Starminn, when i went to banshee's irc, they only told me to submit a bug bnut yeah i've seen that
[02:15] <bagels> Starminn, it's on any song though
[02:15] <Starminn> bagels, *shrug* Did you try the fix proposed in the bug report?
[02:15] <scwizard> this is what I'm looking at: http://i.imgur.com/XutxG.png
[02:16] <scwizard> is this a unicode problem or what?
[02:16] <bagels> Starminn, when I look at these kinds of things my brain locks up.
[02:17] <reisio> scwizard: I told them the euro was a bad idea, but did they listen?!
[02:17] <Starminn> bagels, Me too. That's why I scroll to the bottom and look for plain english
[02:17] <reisio> scwizard: is that a VM?
[02:17] <scwizard> reisio: >_> so any ideas how to fix?
[02:17] <Starminn> bagels, In this case, it's the last message
[02:17] <bagels> Starminn, trying it
[02:17] <reisio> scwizard: is that a VM?
  : I have installed it...Can you please guide me for how to stream  ?
[02:18] <Starminn> bagels, If it doesn't work, I can't really do much more to help, ;) I'm just a Googler heheh
[02:18] <scwizard> reisio: my terminal is putty, it's in a gnu screen, ubuntu itself is a vm
[02:18] <reisio> ah
[02:18] <bagels> lol Starminn it didn't help.
[02:18] <reisio> well that's a lot of layers for encoding mismatches to happen
[02:18] <bagels> still crashed.
[02:18] <Wulf> Hi
[02:18] <Starminn> Amdpc, Read the docs. I have never used the program, nor any program even slightly related to it. I just happened to see it online. Have you tried searching for "How to stream using [program]"?
[02:18] <Starminn> bagels, You restarted BAnshee when you tried it?
[02:18] <reisio> scwizard: you might start by trying with the window smaller, though
[02:19] <Wulf> How can I install more recent firefox on Maverick?
[02:19] <scwizard> I did it was even more horrible :(
[02:19] <reisio> scwizard: the goofy chars instead of line chars aren't as big a deal
[02:19] <reisio> scwizard: what VM system is it?
[02:19] <Starminn> Wulf, From Mozilla.
[02:19] <Wulf> Starminn: so no packages from ubuntu available?
[02:19] <bagels> Starminn, yup
[02:19] <scwizard> some vmware, but I haven't had any problems with encoding mismatches stemmign from that
[02:20] <scwizard> seems like it would be the terminal or some nonsense
[02:20] <Starminn> bagels, :( Then sorry mean, I've done what I can lol
[02:20] <reisio> scwizard: well you can get them from both putty and screen :p
[02:20] <Majere_Draven> Hey. So .. I installed the Gnome shell thing. What now?
[02:20] <Starminn> Wulf, Are you looking for a beta channel or something else?
[02:20] <reisio> scwizard: but that doesn't really explain the line dislocation, IME
[02:20] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, What do you want to do?
[02:20] <reisio> scwizard: why are you using putty and screen for an install?
[02:20] <scwizard> true
[02:20] <scwizard> when I exit screen I get this
[02:21] <Wulf> Starminn: I don't really care if it's beta.
[02:21] <Wulf> Starminn: what is a "beta channel"?
[02:21] <Starminn> Wulf, Just a repository that serves that program's beta version
[02:22] <scwizard> reisio: what would you suggest?
[02:22] <Wulf> Starminn: does this exist for maverick and firefox?
[02:22] <scwizard> also this is w/o the screen: http://i.imgur.com/4HnVE.png
[02:22] <Majere_Draven> I want to start using the gnome shell
[02:22] <reisio> scwizard: that looks good enough
[02:22] <Starminn> Wulf, Like, what you've got now gives you the latest stable version (after it's been tested by Ubuntu devs, thus why it's a little behind the rest of the world).
[02:22] <reisio> scwizard: I'd suggest not using putty or screen...
[02:22] <reisio> scwizard: why do you need them for an install?
[02:22] <scwizard> reisio: how would I get anything installed then?
[02:22] <Starminn> Wulf, As far as the beta PPA goes, there used to be one > ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next < I assume it's still valid
[02:23] <scwizard> reisio: what terminal should I use if not putty?
[02:23] <Starminn> Wulf, I'd add that then search for "Firefox" in the Ubuntu Software Center
[02:23] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, So use it.
[02:23] <Majere_Draven> .. How?
[02:23] <Majere_Draven> I'm still in unity
[02:23] <Wulf> Starminn: ah thanks, I'll try that.
[02:23] <reisio> scwizard: most people use putty as an ssh client, what're you using it for?
[02:23] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, Oh. Logout, then on the login screen hit the cogwheel next to your name. Choose GNOME Shell
[02:23] <scwizard> I'm using it as an ssh client
[02:23] <Majere_Draven> I love you Starminn
[02:24] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, I love you too. :)
[02:24] <benlebovitz> evening folks... Does anyone have any suggestions... I'm about to spend $700 on a laptop that I'd like Ubuntu to be pre-installed on.
[02:24] <Majere_Draven> quick question, is there a keyboard shortcut for logging out?
[02:24] <Majere_Draven> Its been years
[02:24] <benlebovitz> I'm looking to make a little home recording studio on it
[02:24] <Starminn> benlebovitz, Have you looked into these guys: http://www.system76.com/ ?
[02:25] <Majere_Draven> My last peice of advice to someone was telling them about beryl, if that dates my ubuntu experiance.
[02:25] <scwizard> but yeah there's at least two levels of encoding mismatches :(
[02:25] <benlebovitz> ctrl+alt + L = lock screen
[02:25] <bjrohan> I need some serious help
[02:25] <benlebovitz> Starminn thanks, I'll look now
[02:25] <bjrohan> I am not sure what I did, but everything on my desktp disappeared, I mean the unity launcherbar, and the bar across the top that has my name, battery status, etc
[02:25] <Majere_Draven> Huh, It still looks like unity
[02:26] <bjrohan> I am new to Ubuntu, so I do not know much about the terms
[02:26] <Majere_Draven> reboot bjrohan, you were maybe messing with the CCSM ?
[02:26] <bjrohan> CCSM?
[02:26] <bjrohan> I was using Compiz
[02:26] <reisio> bjrohan: open your eyes :D
[02:26] <Majere_Draven> compiz config settings manager
[02:27] <bjrohan> Yep, that was it, I have ATI X1400, a page recommended I disable something in Compiz, I did, and poof things are gone
[02:27] <bjrohan> will reboot
[02:27] <Majere_Draven> reboot then. If it doesn't work. reboot in unity 2d, undo the changes you made, then boot back into unity awesome.
[02:27] <bjrohan> ok
[02:27] <bjrohan> thanks
[02:27] <Majere_Draven> which is code for unity not so awesome
[02:27] <Majere_Draven> :D
[02:27] <bjrohan> I am starting to believe that unity not so awesome
[02:27] <Starminn> bjrohan, If you disable CCSM Unity will stop working
[02:28] <Majere_Draven> I did that six times today
[02:28] <Starminn> bjrohan, There is a CCSM plugin called "Unity Plugin" or some such that will kill Unity if you disable it, or CCSM (obviously) :)
[02:28] <Starminn> benlebovitz, All come complete with an "Ubuntu key" -- rather than a "Windows key" :)
[02:28] <Majere_Draven> gonna log out and back in now
[02:29] <bjrohan> In CCSM I only went to OpenGL, and disabled Sync to VBlank, that is when it went crappers
[02:29] <bjrohan> I did install Gnome panel, is there any performance sacrafice if I use that instead of Unity?
[02:29] <Majere_Draven> brb
[02:29] <Majere_Draven> yes bj
[02:30] <Majere_Draven> you're sacrificing unity
[02:30] <davf> I've just installed ubuntu 11.10 and trying to get my bluetooth headset to work. I can pair but there is no option to redirect sound to the headset. When I press the button that start/stops audio, I cant a grey "no" sign (the circle with the slash through it). Any ideas?
[02:30] <Majere_Draven> brb for real now
[02:30] <bjrohan> and unity sux right? what is the sacrafice?
[02:30] <davf> using gnome-shell btw
[02:30] <bjrohan> checked the VBland box as it was, will reboot and hopefully come back.
[02:33] <infinite> Hi: I redownloaded Ubuntu 11.10 and installed; still I am unable to go beyond a white screen upon initial login. So I installed 11.04, now I can login, but am unable to connect wireless from my laptop (passphrase is correct; WPA & WPA2 Personal)
[02:34] <slinkeey> Hello I have  a machine running 11.10 that always wants me to enter the key for my network..  Any ideas?  I have a gut feeling that it is the keyring or something.
[02:35] <Starminn> benlebovitz, Also, http://zareason.com/shop/home.php?cat=
[02:35] <dr_willis> infinite: what video card. what wireless card...
[02:36] <bagels> anyone know why I can't install Grumblr?
[02:36] <estatement> How do I view an estatement in pdf format in Firefox??
[02:36] <dr_willis> slinkeey: the gnome keyring asks for a passorwd on first use. you can leave it blank uf you want
[02:36] <reisio> bagels: how have you tried
[02:37] <bagels> the website has a list of terminal entries to make, it doesn't work.  Want a link?
[02:37] <bagels> reisio, ^^
[02:37] <reisio> bagels: I guess
[02:37] <slinkeey> dr_willis, I understand that..  My problem is that my network always wants my network key on this one notebook...
[02:38] <estatement> Firefox will not load estatements or bills from within my secure banking site
[02:38] <Starminn> estatement, So you wish to view PDFs withing Firefox, correct?
[02:38] <slinkeey> "Authentication Required by Wireless network"   I cannot figure out why it is not being saved.
[02:38] <bagels> reisio, http://themactep.com/grumblr/ i'll put up my terminal output.
[02:38] <Starminn> estatement, Like how Chrome/Chromium does?
[02:38] <Majere_Draven> okay,
[02:38] <estatement> starminn: yup
[02:38] <Majere_Draven> Now how do i customize the gnome shell?
[02:38] <Majere_Draven> I mean, wheres the settings thing
[02:39] <reisio> Majere_Draven: gnome-tweak-tool will help
[02:39] <Starminn> estatement, Here's the answer to your prayers: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-open-pdfpostscript-files-inside-firefox.html
[02:39] <infinite>  dr_willis : The laptop is Toshiba P25-S507; with NVIDIA Video card; it is Pentium 4; Wireless card is Atheros something?
[02:39] <estatement> I wonder why my bank does not give the option "open with: evince"
[02:39] <Majere_Draven> Oh okay
[02:39] <Don_Rad> hi all
[02:39] <Starminn> estatement, What it does (or, what it did 3 months ago when I last used it anyway) is essentially open the default document viewer within a Firefox tab
[02:39] <reisio> estatement: because you haven't told Firefox about evince
[02:39] <bagels> reisio, http://pastebin.com/rLxV9RwW
[02:39] <bjrohan> I rebooted my computer and alas, nothing is better. When I first start I have one bar across the top that says File Edit, View, Go BMarks, Help, I can use GO to open file manager to go to user bin Unity 2D to get the launcher to work and I can access Konversation. I have no system tray :-(
[02:39] <reisio> you can use Adobe's acroread plugin in Firefox as well
[02:39] <slinkeey> estatement, you bank don't know what you use.
[02:40] <Don_Rad> does anybody are connected by an usb broadband modem ? can you explain to me howto?
[02:40] <Majere_Draven> advance settings?
[02:40] <reisio> without mozplugger
[02:41] <bjrohan> HELP I have LOST everything in ubuntu 11.10, I am a newbie and need a LOT of help
[02:41] <Starminn> bjrohan, Try resetting CCSM to all system defaults, logout, then log into "Ubuntu" (as opposed to "Ubuntu 2D" like I assume you just did)]
[02:41] <bjrohan> ok
[02:41] <bjrohan> will do Starmin
[02:41] <slinkeey> Hello, how do I get Ubuntu 11.10 to remember my Wireless network key?
[02:42] <Starminn> bjrohan, Alternatively, if you can't get Unity to work at all, you can (other than a complete reinstall) just use GNOME Shell instead, much like many others in this room
[02:42] <Vermicelli> If every time I restart rhythmbox showed zero tracks (while set to watch a folder on another hdd) until I re-assigned the folder to watch or manually imported the folder, what would be my best bet to fix the behavior?
[02:42] <bjrohan> Starmin, how do I reset defaults?
[02:42] <Starminn> Vermicelli, Is the HDD mounted when this occurs?
[02:42] <Starminn> bjrohan, Well, have you re-enabled all plugins that were acvtive to begin with? (Namely, the "Unity Plugin" or whatever)
[02:43] <arman10k> hello
[02:43] <bjrohan> Nope, I just re-enabled the one Video VBlank checkbox, I do notice that Ubuntu Unity Plugin is not checked
[02:43] <Vermicelli> The hdd is mounted automatically. It's my media drive. When it mounts I have no idea, but it's accessible before I fire up rhythmbox.
[02:44] <bjrohan> Is there a one click -reset to default?
[02:44] <Starminn> bjrohan, That is your problem. If "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" is disabled, then, consequently, Unity itself will be disabled.
[02:44] <Starminn> bjrohan, No. But if Ubuntu Unity Plugin is disabled, simply marking it on again should suffice. You turned it off when you unchecked it.
[02:44] <bjrohan> I checked that box, most everything comes back
[02:45] <urlin2u> slinkeey, it should automatically if your not getting a auto logon or in right click the icon-edit connections click on your name-edit then click connect automatically and available to all users. you can also put your password in this gui as well.
[02:45] <Starminn> Okay. Now log out, then on the cogwheel next to your user name, make sure you click on "Ubuntu" then login. All should be well
[02:45] <bagels> reisio, anything
[02:45] <slinkeey> urlin2u, available to all users is disabled
[02:45] <bjrohan> Okay. Thank you Starminn
[02:45] <Starminn> Vermicelli, I had a similar problem when I used Rhythmbox. I had to import the all the audio every time I started, ha
[02:46] <Starminn> bjrohan, Well, let's see if this works first. ;)
[02:46] <urlin2u> slinkeey, do this all from the original install desktop.
[02:46] <Starminn> Vermicelli, I just started to use other media players though, I never fixed it.
[02:46] <reisio> bagels: ?
[02:46] <slinkeey> I am on th original install desktop
[02:46] <Don_Rad> hi all , i have a laptop dell inspiron 1545 and i can not make it work an usb modem broadband , the network manager is not responding on the set up of a new connection, is there something missing or any clue to how set up properly?
[02:46] <Vermicelli> I had the same setup before I replaced my main hdd. Before it was a PATA, now a SATA. Only difference, as far as I know. Xubuntu 11.04 before and after.
[02:46] <bagels> reisio, http://pastebin.com/rLxV9RwW
[02:46] <bagels> reisio, http://themactep.com/grumblr/ i'll put up my terminal output.
[02:47] <slinkeey> urlin2u, I am on the orig install desktop... I never added any other profiles
[02:47] <Don_Rad> and ubuntu 11.10 sorry
[02:47] <Vermicelli> Thanks anyway, Starminn.
[02:47] <slinkeey> urlin2u, hahahahah I got it.. once I type the key it unhides...I just assumed it wouldn't
[02:48] <urlin2u> slinkeey, what desktop and what release?
[02:48] <reisio> bagels: looks like it wants you to install libpango1.0-dev
[02:48] <Starminn> Vermicelli, :( The "hacky" way to solve this I can think of is to create a startup script that tells Rhythmbox to import it all whenever the HDD gets mounted. Find out how long that takes, then set a timer for that script accordingly.
[02:48] <Starminn> Vermicelli, But then, that's not really solving the underlying issue of course.
[02:48] <urlin2u> slinkeey, cool
[02:48] <slinkeey> urlin2u, Ubuntu 11.10 Gnome
[02:49] <bagels> reisio, sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-dev ?
[02:49] <reisio> bagels: should work, yeah
[02:49] <urlin2u> slinkeey, unity is the install desktop, if you have more problems.
[02:50] <bagels> reisio, http://pastebin.com/XT08FCHK
[02:50] <Vermicelli> Starminn, it would make sense if it's set to auto-monitor a folder, if it went "oh, hey- music!" when it made a periodic scan. Apparently auto-monitoring only happens at application startup?
[02:51] <Starminn> Vermicelli, I suppose so. Really, if there's a channel for Rhythmbox that may be the best place for this (and pray they don't just say, "File a bug.") Is there an option to "Rescan Music Library"? You may have to do it manually whenever you turn Rhythmbox on, sure but that's quicker than importing everything over and over again
[02:52] <KingSphinx> Wheeeee..... I can't install xubuntu-desktop because the installation hangs when trying to fetch libpurple.
[02:52] <bjrohan> Starminn That worked great, thanks again. I won't use CCSM for a while :-)
[02:52] <Starminn> bjrohan, :) Oh, don't be afraid of it. Just make sure not to disable Unity. Because, well, that disables Unity. :)
[02:52] <bjrohan> :-)
[02:53] <Starminn> bjrohan, A suggestion to re-acclamate yourself to it -- go to the Unity Plugin (click on the name, not the box), and go to the Experimental tab. You can change icon size and transparency and stuff.
[02:53] <Starminn> bjrohan, Don't be afraid of it -- just respect its power. ;)
[02:53] <Vermicelli> Starminn, the channel had one other occupant, and then zero, at least on freenode. Supposedly there's a irc.gnome.org server with support, but it must be down.
[02:54] <Starminn> Vermicelli, Is the channel you tried on the irc.gnome.org network?
[02:54] <Shdwdrgn> Evening folks.  Upgrading from maverick to natty.  My first issue is that my raid0 is being listed in /prod/mdstat as md127, and not mountable.  I've regenerated mdadm.conf numerous ways, but cannot get the array to start up as md0 and mount during boot (note this is NOT a bootable raid, just an array that gets mounted from fstab)
 same thing happened to me when i playarround a littlebit with CCSM ubuntu unity plugin was disabled and i was freak out but i login to ubuntu 2d and re open CCSM and just click to enable Unity plugin and that was all
[02:57] <Vermicelli> Starminn, I goofed earlier. Made a mistake with adding the server in xchat. I bet I'l have better luck if I'm actually connected to the server.
[02:58] <Starminn> Vermicelli, That's what I was thinking. :)
[02:58] <R3db3ard> !register
[02:59] <Majere_Draven> So, Ubuntu, As far as I can tell, Is not not as customizable as it once was.
[02:59] <Majere_Draven> even in gnome classic
[02:59] <Starminn> So, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and Nautilus has decided that it does not wish to use my icons. That instead, it wishes to use the GNOME defaults. Help?
[02:59] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, GNOME 2 is still GNOME 2. Ubuntu or not.
[03:00] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, GNOME Shell and Unity though are both very new developments, so they're working on stability first, then customization later. More important that it works than to tweak it.
[03:00] <robin0800> Majere_Draven, in gnome classic did you try alt click
[03:00] <Majere_Draven> gnome 3 is what I'm with, I probably need to go back to gnome 2 to be happy.
[03:00] <reisio> Majere_Draven: a viable option
[03:01] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, *nods* More than likely, yes.
[03:01] <xangua> you can read webupd8 tweak post, it may help to customize what you want
[03:01] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[03:01] <Starminn> Majere_Draven, Have you installed the gnome tweak tool?
[03:02] <Majere_Draven> all i found was Advance settings. not gnome tweak tool
[03:02] <robin0800> Majere_Draven, what can you not do in gnome 3 then
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> Majere_Draven: Gnome2 is no longer developed
[03:03] <infinite> quit
[03:03] <robin0800> Majere_Draven, that's what's called
[03:04] <urlin2u> jOpBnaZvsN
[03:04] <Majere_Draven> Okay, I'm going to wait out gnome 3...
[03:05] <reisio> Majere_Draven: heheh
[03:05] <reisio> Majere_Draven: on 10.04?
[03:05] <Majere_Draven> Really hoping it developes like gnome 2 did.
[03:06] <victoria> I've got a question. I currently run Ubuntu 10.04. I've run several Linux systems in the last two years. My boyfriend would like to check out Ubuntu. I'm thinking Wubi Installer. How is installing with Wubi different than installing from a regular disk?
[03:06] <reisio> Majere_Draven: it's hard to imagine it not
[03:06] <reisio> Majere_Draven: that doesn't necessarily mean it will eventually be configurable to be more like GNOME 2, but I'm betting it will be
[03:06] <reisio> there are probably dozens of script kiddies trying to make it like GNOME 2 right now, for their own glory :p
[03:07] <reisio> victoria: Wubi installs Ubuntu into a _file_ inside the Windows filesystem
[03:07] <reisio> victoria: it's less than ideal, but frequently works just fine
[03:07] <Majere_Draven> Oh, and progress quest still refuses to boot up.
[03:07] <Majere_Draven> i can play dwarf fortress through wine, but not ubuntu's progress quest
[03:07] <victoria> @reiso Ok. I just don't want to f*ck up his computer. I've done a partition/install several dozen times, but not with XP.
[03:08] <reisio> victoria: the worst that can happen is you confuse the Windows boot loader
[03:08] <reisio> victoria: you can grab a copy of EasyBCD and make a backup beforehand if you like
[03:08] <reisio> or... XP?  EasyBCD might work with XP, I don't know
[03:08] <slinkeey> Why did ubuntu start using unity out of curiosity?
[03:08] <reisio> victoria: if you have the time/inclination/disk space, you can dd an exact copy of his Windows install as a backup
[03:09] <victoria> Because they thought it would look pretty, I think!
[03:09] <robin0800> victoria, linux detects windows xp just fine
[03:09] <reisio> victoria: http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html takes a while
[03:09] <victoria> @reisio I haven't looked at his computer yet. I just know it's a million years old and has XP on it.
[03:09] <reisio> slinkeey: the biggest difference is GNOME 2 and GNOME 3
[03:09] <reisio> slinkeey: which was GNOME's upstream decision
[03:10] <Bentley_> hi all, I'm printing a log file from an app, and "tail -f" it in terminal. Newline characters ( \n ) don't translate and just display literally as \n. Is translation of these characters and option?
[03:10] <reisio> slinkeey: Unity is a natural result of GNOME 3 having "shells" and being easily reconfigurable in that way
[03:10] <reisio> victoria: ah, good times
[03:10] <reisio> victoria: like I said the worst that can happen AFAIK is you'd have to fixmbr from a Windows XP install image
[03:10] <slinkeey> reisio, ok...  There is stuff i like, but I tend to accidently make the unity slide menu come out on me while browsing the web
[03:10] <reisio> victoria: and there are Linuxland utils for doing that, too, so you don't even really need a Windows install image
[03:11] <victoria> @reisio, Ok. that sounds easy
[03:11] <Starminn> So, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and Nautilus has decided that it does not wish to use my icons. That instead, it wishes to use the GNOME defaults. Help?
[03:11] <reisio> victoria: basically if anything goes wrong don't panic, get on IRC
[03:11] <slinkeey> reisio, I love the Windows key  program...  That is great.. It's like a search engine for my pc
[03:11] <reisio> slinkeey: yeah lots of people like those
[03:12] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_desktop_application_launchers
[03:12] <slinkeey> reisio, No I am talking about that thing that comes out of the box with 11.10
[03:12] <reisio> slinkeey: I know
[03:12] <slinkeey> reisio, they did a nice job with that..
[03:12] <reisio> but that's what it is, an application launcher
[03:13] <Majere_Draven> ahhh progress quest. Now I can start playing my favorite game.
[03:13] <slinkeey> reisio, It is nice for when I am not sure about what I am looking for but I know for example I want to do something with a PDF

[03:13] <reisio> victoria: oh and I don't know what hardware you use Ubuntu with, but if his is really a million years old, you might try Lubuntu
[03:13] <reisio> slinkeey: mmmhmmm
[03:13] <reisio> slinkeey: KDE has one, too, built into the menu
[03:14] <slinkeey> reisio, I am an AS400 (iSeries, system I) guy so it feels like home... Yes I know AS400 is text based, but still  I feel more at home with Ubuntu compared to Windows..
[03:15] <reisio> because of the commands, yar
[03:16] <slinkeey> I want to find something much like WRKACTJOB on the AS400 that lets me drill into a job/service running on my PC and see what files it has open and etc...  That would be sweet!  :)
[03:18] <newmember> how do I do an arp for a virtual IP address  do I use   the physical interface or the virtual one?  eg    arping -I bond0 or arping _i bond0:1
[03:18] <robin0800> slinkeey, system monitor can do that
[03:19] <sevink> hello
[03:19] <Starminn> So, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and Nautilus has decided that it does not wish to use my icons. That instead, it wishes to use the GNOME defaults. Help?
[03:19] <reisio> sevink: hi
[03:20] <slinkeey> robin0800,  awesome... I can see what files are open... you are right...
[03:20] <reisio> Starminn: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22nautilus%22%20%22icons%22%20%2211.10%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org ?
[03:20] <sevink> question: what does (xchat:17621): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_xmap", mean?
[03:21] <reisio> sevink: means the developers have some work to do
[03:21] <slinkeey> robin0800, Much nicer then Windows Task manager.. WRKACTJOB on the 400 spoiled me...  Can you actually use system moniter to see if I a program is looping (running the same instruction or set of instructions over and over?)
[03:21] <sevink> ah
[03:21] <reisio> sevink: and you're for some reason running xchat from a terminal :p
[03:22] <soreau> sevink: It's a warning which is typically just a harmless informational message
[03:22] <sevink> i'm a linux newbie and decided to install/start xchat from terminal just to get more familiar with it
[03:22] <pp7_> what's the difference between unity 2d and 3d and how do i select which one to use?
[03:22] <sevink> gotcha
[03:22] <reisio> pp7_: 3d has fancy hardware accelerated effects
[03:22] <reisio> pp7_: 2d doesn't
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> pp7_: you select it at login
[03:22] <reisio> pp7_: I think you pick from the login screen
[03:23] <pp7_> ok
[03:23] <robin0800> slinkeey, sorry don't know don't think so
[03:23] <leo2007> what's the most preferred Chinese input method on ubuntu?
[03:23] <pp7_> thx
[03:23] <reisio> leo2007: dunno, but wubi [sic] is the bestest
[03:23] <slinkeey> robin0800, that's cool
[03:24] <bagels> where's the banshee channel here?
[03:24] <reisio> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Wubizixing%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> bagels: possibly #bamshee
[03:24] <slinkeey> robin0800, I am liking this though......  Thanks for your time
[03:24] <reisio> ehehhe
[03:24] <reisio> bamshee, that's a better name
[03:24] <bagels> bam lol
[03:24] <sevink> i see that when i click on the "dash home" icon on the left side, there are some white "glitch-y" boxes on the window.
[03:24] <reisio> bagels: /msg alis list *whatyouarelookingfor*
[03:24]  * derp farts.
[03:24] <sevink> covering a portion of the search bar.
[03:24] <Starminn> reisio, GNOME defaults, not blank
[03:25] <reisio> Starminn: the solution for that could still apply
[03:25] <bagels> there is no banshee channel on here. at least not #banshee
[03:26] <rich_> are people using vmbuilder?  or is that too old-school?  it looks like the docs are a little crufty.
[03:26] <reisio> bagels: it's on irc.gnome.org
[03:26] <urlin2u> # banshee irc.gnome.org  bagels
[03:26] <bagels> reisio, oh, herp.  there it is
[03:27] <sevink> example of my problem: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/screenshotat20111103191.png/
[03:27] <rich_> I'm building vms and vmbuilder used to seem like the thing to use, but I'm running into bugs and missing docs now.  it was an awesome program last time I used it.  hope it's just a few glitches.
[03:27] <reisio> neat
[03:27] <Starminn> reisio, Guess I'll just have to end Nautilus by command each time. *shrug*
[03:28] <Starminn> bagels, It's on a different network I believe. irc.gnome.org IIRC
[03:28] <bagels> found it!
[03:28] <Starminn> bagels, http://banshee.fm/about/contact/
[03:28] <Starminn> bagels, There ya go, lol
[03:29] <slinkeey> Well later all
[03:29] <linuxuz3r> bye
[03:33] <leo2007> how to switch input method in ubuntu?
[03:33] <JasonGriffee> what it the default directory for installing programs?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: all over the file system
[03:36] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip, i need the skype directory
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> leo2007: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36245/no-keyboard-layout-indicator-text-in-the-notification-area
[03:39] <urlin2u> leo2007, this is an english channel I would go to the source.
[03:39] <urlin2u> !cs
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: the main binary is /usr/bin/skype   but there are files in /lib and other places. It doesn't just go to one place
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: nor is it just the one deb, it will use deps which will have files in other places.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> JasonGriffee: why do you need the skype 'location'?
[03:42] <JasonGriffee> ActionParsnip, Skype customer support asked me to create a folder for skype to log errors
[03:42] <Lewoco> How does GDM remember what programs I had running when I logged off and restart them? Can this be turned off?
[03:42] <reisio> Lewoco: yes, in GNOME's preferences
[03:42] <reisio> not GDM's
[03:43] <Hamled> Hi I accidentally run command "chsh -s yes" on my user on a remote server, how best to fix??
[03:44] <jd225> Hi, have a random question about telnet
[03:44] <jd225> The telnet architeture requires a client & server
[03:44] <jd225> how is that one can telnet to any open port
[03:44] <jd225> say google.com 443
[03:44] <jd225> and see the banner
[03:45] <jd225> obviously there isn't a telnet server running on 443
[03:45] <jd225> how is it able to return a connection
[03:45] <reisio> Hamled: any other users you can remote in as?
[03:45] <Lewoco> reisio, Well I just checked and it's already disabled.
[03:46] <Hamled> no :(
[03:46] <soreau> jd225: Since this has nothing to do with ubuntu, you probably should ask in a more appropriate channel like #networking
[03:46] <jd225> good call
[03:46] <jd225> will do
[03:46] <reisio> Hamled: another reason why Ubuntu should have root like everybody else :p
[03:47] <reisio> Hamled: that's a good question, ask ##linux
[03:47] <reisio> Hamled: you might have to get someone to boot a liveOS for you
[03:47] <Hamled> okay, thanks!
[03:47] <not_booting> hey all, i'm having some serious problems with my ubuntu 10.10 install, i ran a kernel upgrade a few days ago, restarted once and everything was fine, restarted a second time and was greeted by the black screen of death, while the hard drive is plugged in I can't boot from a cd or usb live disk, I tried to run boot-repair from a live cd, it said it was sucessful, but it wasnt i reinstalled 10.10 and still the problem persists, i see the initial lenovo
[03:47] <not_booting>  splash screen and get stuck at a blinking cursor before grub, oh it's a dual boot xp/ubuntu laptop with separate home partition
[03:48] <jmichaelx> apparently ubuntu can mount USB drives which have spaces in their names, but has a difficult time unmounting them?
[03:49] <deco> ???
[03:49] <reisio> jmichaelx: entirely possible
[03:49] <reisio> deco: agreed
[03:49] <eHAPPY> How do i stop rtorrent so i can edit rtorrent.rc ?
[03:49] <Prothon> eHAPPY: service rtorrent stop?
[03:50] <eHAPPY> Prothon it says unrecognized service
[03:50] <eHAPPY> :S
[03:50] <Prothon> sudo pkill rtorrent
[03:51] <eHAPPY> hold on let me google for 5 minutes trying to find what "pkill" does -_-
[03:51] <eHAPPY> linux documentation is so poor
[03:51] <Prothon> It really isn't that bad
[03:51] <Prothon> pkill = process kill
[03:51] <not_booting> pkill --help
[03:51] <eHAPPY> what does pkill do what kill doesnt?
[03:51] <jmichaelx> would anyone here have a suggestion as to how to unmount a USB drive, that has a space in its name?
[03:51] <Prothon> eHAPPY: every unsure of something, just type man [command here]
[03:52] <Prothon> kill normally works off of pid (process id)
[03:52] <Prothon> you'd hav to use top to find that out
[03:52] <not_booting> jmichaelx: how are you trying to unmount?
[03:52] <eHAPPY> oh ok so its just a lazy way of kill then?
[03:52] <JasonGriffee> can someone please explain this to me? i need to create a folder but I don't know where: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/727833/
[03:52] <not_booting> command line? gui?
[03:52] <jmichaelx> nevermind, i was able to just umount /dev/sdX
[03:52] <Prothon> eHAPPY: Yeppers.
[03:52] <jmichaelx> not_booting: GUI first, then command line... neither would work
[03:53] <Prothon> eHAPPY: Work smart, not hard.
[03:53] <not_booting> i like to use disk utility if there is an issue
[03:53] <Starminn> eHAPPY, Ever heard of the man? It is run by "man <command>" in a terminal. So "man pkill" will answer more questions than you've ever wanted answers for about that command.
[03:53] <not_booting> man=manual
[03:53] <qin> eHAPPY: In rtorrent window, ctrl-q
[03:54] <eHAPPY> Prothon i try but there is little documentation of what im trying to learn, and rarely if ever reasons why do use one over another :/
[03:54] <w30> jmichaelx, try tab completion of the name
[03:54] <eHAPPY> Starminn ok ty im sure ill be using that a lot
[03:54] <Starminn> JasonGriffee, In ~ (your home folder)/.Skype (a hidden folder named "Skype")/ Logs
[03:54] <eHAPPY> qin no rtorrent window
[03:54] <MrCartel> How do you passthrough a usb 2.0 device on qemu-kvm? It seems to only register as 1.1
[03:55]  * ZombieSickBoy slaps 17SABTGWE around a bit with a large trout
[03:55] <qin> eHAPPY: Then equip yourself with htop, comfy tool
[03:55] <Starminn> JasonGriffee, For all folders beginning with "." they are hidden in Linux. To reveal them, go to View->Show hidden folders -- or hit CTRL+H
[03:56] <JasonGriffee> Starminn, is that what "~" means? that makes way more sense, thank you
[03:56] <jtgiri_> HI guys, I am trying to upgrade kernel on ec2 machine. current version installed is 2.6.32-309-ec2, I installed new version with apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-319-ec2, and restarted the instance, but it's still showing old kernel, any idea why ?
[03:56] <Starminn> JasonGriffee, Haha, yeah -- the tilde (~) is just shorthand for "Home"
[03:56] <Shdwdrgn> can anyone help with a raid0 being detected at boot as md127, and not started?  Just upgraded to natty, cannot seem to resolve getting this to start during boot-up.
[03:56] <eHAPPY> qin ty that looks very helpful
[03:57] <JasonGriffee> Starminn, my mind was taking me to the top of the drive
[03:57] <Starminn> JasonGriffee, At root (/)? Heh. Well, if it isn't explained then it can be confusing.
[03:58] <Starminn> JasonGriffee, This should help significantly if you ever want to learn some good basic commands for Linux. http://www.tuxfiles.org/ It's what I used, and what I reference still in the rare case I use the command-line
[03:58] <not_booting> hey all, i'm having some serious problems with my ubuntu 10.10 install, i ran a kernel upgrade a few days ago, restarted once and everything was fine, restarted a second time and was greeted by the black screen of death, while the hard drive is plugged in I can't boot from a cd or usb live disk, I tried to run boot-repair from a live cd, it said it was sucessful, but it wasnt i reinstalled 10.10 and still the problem persists, i see the initial lenovo
[03:58] <not_booting>   splash screen and get stuck at a blinking cursor before grub, oh it's a dual boot xp/ubuntu laptop with separate home partition
[03:58] <not_booting> any body have any ideas?
[04:00] <aeon-ltd> not_booting: if you're running a blank install with separate /home why don't you try the latest ubuntu?
[04:00] <JasonGriffee> Starminn, thank you, bookmarked
[04:00] <not_booting> didn't want to have any config issues
[04:01] <not_booting> but it's looking like i'm going to try 11.04
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> not_booting: what happened on the boot that after you upgraded and it worked?
[04:02] <switch10> not_booting: when you say "when the hard drive is plugged in" do you mean a USB drive or something?
[04:02] <not_booting> no, the actual sda harddrive, i unplugged that it now it boots
[04:02] <not_booting> into a live cd before it would just blink even when i adjusted the boot order in the bios
[04:02] <not_booting> i didnt see anything unusual
[04:03] <not_booting> when i rebooted
[04:03] <not_booting> turned my computer off for the day came back to work the next day and nothing would work
[04:04] <urlin2u> not_booting, are you familiar with the bootscript?
[04:05] <not_booting> in which way? i know it exists but i dont know anything about it
[04:05] <not_booting> http://paste.ubuntu.com/727843/ this is my fdisk -l
[04:06] <switch10> not_booting: this is with sda unplugged?
[04:06] <urlin2u> not_booting, how are you getting that if you have b=no boot and can't get a cd to boot.
[04:06] <not_booting> i unplugged the hard drive, then once i got to the live cd i reconnected the main hardrive, i'm using a live usb
[04:07] <not_booting> if i have the hard drive installed, i get tot he black screen of death
[04:07] <not_booting> nothing else will work
[04:08] <urlin2u> not_booting, do you know the key prompt to get the boot from menu outside the bios f12 ia quite common so you could boot the cd with all drives plugged in a run the bootscript.   Also is one HD a slave?
[04:08] <BattousaiX> Hello, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with setting up a PXE boot image within a Centos environment for Ubuntu.  I was working on getting a linux iso up, but the furthest I got was booting up to a initramfs and was looking for pointers.
[04:08] <switch10> not_booting: That is very strange considering your BIOS reads a CD first if it is first in your boot order, regardless of what is on a HDD.
[04:08] <not_booting> no my main hard drive is listed as sdb because i think the live usb is taking up sda
[04:09] <not_booting> i agree it's puzzling
[04:09] <not_booting> only have one hd
[04:10] <urlin2u> switch10, if you can find the key prompt and get the cd booted run this script and pastebin the results.txt   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:11] <quixotedon> reisio: sorry i rebooted to windows.. any solution to my problem?
[04:12] <urlin2u> not_booting, it is not that uncommon for a cd to not boot being first in the bios that is why you want to know the out of bios key prompt for choosing the boot from a gui.
[04:12] <reisio> quixotedon: what was your problem?
[04:12] <not_booting> ok i'm gettin gthe boot script thing i'll psate the results
[04:12] <Starminn> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 11.10, and Image Viewer has decided to stop working. Any suggestions? (This occurs in both Unity and GNOME Shell, I have tried logging out/in, restarting the DE manually, as well as full restarts to no avail)
[04:14] <quixotedon> reisio: webex stated that my java is disabled (using firefox though i have downloaded javajdk run 7) which made me unable to listen to the audio of the webinar because the app is still accessible but with no functions of ja va
[04:14] <quixotedon> reisio: this happens after i'm using 11.10, before when i used 11.04, nothing goes wrong
[04:15] <reisio> yeah I think Oracle changed some things between those versions
[04:15] <not_booting> urlin2u: i ran the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/727848/
[04:15] <ischliky> Is it common to have problems with 11.10 playing nice with win7 via samba? I cant seem to get any configuration to work at all...
[04:15] <urlin2u> not_booting, cool hold on
[04:15] <not_booting> thanks i can hold :)
[04:16] <quixotedon> reisio: are you talking about Oracle to me?? :)
[04:16] <huttan> ischliky, it works great...did u add the samba users?
[04:16] <switch10> not_booting: you have to reinstall grub
[04:16] <quixotedon> reisio: this is a big issue then, since i'm using the webinar for several times a month and the only solution is to access it using windows.. :(
[04:17] <switch10> the boot partition is sdb2, an ntfs partition.
[04:18] <not_booting> so i should put it in sdb7 the ubuntu partition?
[04:18] <popsch> does anyone know a linux mail client that offers something like this (note, it doesn't work with the latest version of thunderbird): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/remindit
[04:18] <reisio> quixotedon: I'm sure you can fix it, but I don't personally know what to tell you
[04:18] <reisio> quixotedon: webex is fairly popular though, so you might search ubuntuforums.org first
[04:18] <reisio> popsch: does it not work or not install?
[04:19] <popsch> reisio, it doesn't work once it is installed (overriding the compatibility check)
[04:19] <reisio> :D
[04:19] <reisio> just checking
[04:19] <popsch> reisio, it is such a useful feature to keep track whether people responded to important email
[04:19] <urlin2u> not_booting, you have syslinux in the sdb mbr not grub it is as you suggetsed reading that way as the cd shows as sda, so use this link with the cd to follow the default on the link use the fdsik to confirm how your ubuntu partition is showing and if still sdb use the commands with sdb and sdb7 if fdisk reads thenm that way. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[04:19] <quixotedon> reisio: the thing is my firefox is set to enable java and webex said it is disabled:-O
[04:19] <switch10> not_booting: you installed ubuntu first, and then Ubuntu after?
[04:20] <switch10> not_booting: sorry, ubuntu first, and windows after?
[04:20] <not_booting> windows first
[04:20] <switch10> not_booting: ok, thats good.
[04:20] <not_booting> i've been using ubuntu for more than 6 months on this laptop with no issues
[04:21] <Starminn> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 11.10, and Image Viewer has decided to stop working. Any suggestions? (This occurs in both Unity and GNOME Shell, I have tried logging out/in, restarting the DE manually, as well as full restarts to no avail)
[04:21] <switch10> not_booting: this just started happening after a kernel upgrade or something?
[04:21] <not_booting> yes
[04:21] <ischliky> huttan, where are you adding users?
[04:21] <not_booting> 2.6.35-30
[04:22] <not_booting> i will try that urlin2u
[04:22] <evelyn> hi how do i get to the grub menu when booting into ubuntu? is there a particular key press needed?
[04:23] <urlin2u> not_booting, cool it will never boot with syslinux in the mbr
[04:23] <not_booting> ok so just to double check where should i put the bootloader?
[04:23] <not_booting> in the ubuntu partition?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> evelyn: hold shift at boot
[04:24] <urlin2u> not_booting, did you not post the whole results.txt as well?
[04:24] <ischliky> huttan, im not sure that is my problem tho, i cant see any windows computers and vice versa
[04:25] <marsfligth> Aptitude suggests the installation of many packages that nor 'apt-get install -f' and nor 'apt-get install --install-recommends' suggest. Please can you give me your opinion about? Should be fault of incomplete o partial installations? Why all these packager are suggested to be installed?  http://pastebin.com/5PtJ2UmW
[04:25] <not_booting> it looks like it got cut off half way
[04:25] <evelyn> ActionParsnip: excellent thank you! on to the next problem...
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: try eog or imagemagick :)
[04:26] <evelyn> when i try to run startx i get "no screens found" (failed to load module intel vesa and fbdev)
[04:26] <urlin2u> not_booting, read the link you have a fdisk -l command to confirm the stuff and two commands one mounts the partition and the second puts grub in the mbr.
[04:26] <evelyn> do i need to grab special xorg packages for these modules?
[04:26] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, But...but...but.... I want ImageViewer to work... :(
[04:28] <not_booting> ok i'm gonna try this copy live cd thing
[04:29] <javier_> Hi! I'm in ubuntu 11.10 and I've noticed internet goes much slowler than in windows. It's not the matter of navigator, happens with firefox, chromium or jdownloader
[04:29] <urlin2u> not_booting, cool the instructions are clear the ubuntu lines showing show the right files, but since you did not post the whole results.txt we assume  here that the grub files in the partition are okay, and your problem is no grub in the mbr=sdb
[04:30] <not_booting> ok thanks
[04:30] <not_booting> back to the command line i go
[04:30] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, It used to work, then it suddenly stopped when I removed it from Main Menu. I tried adding it back but it never returned
[04:31] <Starminn> javier_, Flash or normal webpages?
[04:32] <javier_> Starminn: everything. Every kind of webpages. I' ve just read in google about ipv6. Do you know what's that?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: if yu make a .desktop in /usr/share/applications to run the command, it will appear
[04:33] <Starminn> javier_, You know what an IP address is?
[04:33] <killswitchguy> hi guys, i want to know how to delete files inside the bin and other blocked directories that require permisson
[04:33] <Starminn> javier_, Instead of <IP_ADDRESS> (IPv4), IPv6 is <IP_ADDRESS>.255.255
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> javier_: what if you switch to google's DNS?
[04:33] <javier_> Starminn: ah... I tried it in firefox and it seems to work fine now
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> javier_: disabling ipv6 can help a little
[04:34] <linuxuz3r> tralalalalalala
[04:34] <aeon-ltd> killswitchguy: using sudo, or be root. BUT be absolutely sure about what you're doing; this could be system breaking
[04:34] <javier_> ActionParsnip: I never heard about google's DNS
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> javier_: you can add the boot option: ipv6.disable=1    and it will make your OS not use ipv6
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> javier_: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> killswitchguy: if you have a problem ask for solutions before attempting any 'gut feeling' type job
[04:35] <killswitchguy> aeon-ltd: how can i do that ? be root that is
[04:35] <quixotedon> i announce good bye to banshee, after desperately experiencing crash..
[04:35] <killswitchguy> nothing serious, just editing a config file for scalpel
[04:35] <Starminn> killswitchguy, In the commandline you use terminal commands with "sudo" at the beginning. Or the easy way -- hit ALT+F2, then type "gksudo nautilus" you are now God on your computer. Just be careful
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> killswitchguy: if you run:  sudo -i    you will get a root console
[04:35] <killswitchguy> thanks
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> killswitchguy: login as root, or 'sudo su' in a terminal; for editing files type in terminal 'sudo gedit /path/to/file'
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> killswitchguy: run:  exit   when you are done
[04:36] <javier_> ActionParsnip: what I have actually done is in "about:config" in firefox change false value into "true". It means I disabled it or enabled?
[04:36] <Starminn> killswitchguy, then "gksudo gedit /path/to/file.config should work
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> javier_: not sure dude. I don't use firefox
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> hello
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> is there a way to resize the launchbar in 11.10
[04:37] <Brumagem> I need help installing a wireless driver on a Toshiba Satellite.
[04:37] <cowlicks> Is there a way to do a full disk encryption after an installation of ubuntu?
[04:37] <javier_> ActionParsnip: but, you know what makes it faster? enable or disable ipv6?
[04:38] <urlin2u> linuxuz3r, in the3 compizcofig manager is a unity plugin you can resize the left unity panel there.
[04:38] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Image Viewer is already listed.
[04:38] <Brumagem> When I type in the sudo modprobe command for RTL8188ce_pci it gives me FATAL: ...
[04:38] <linuxuz3r> ok
[04:38] <linuxuz3r> urlin2u: do you have nvidia gfx card
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: what if yuo run it from terminal?
[04:39] <urlin2u> linuxuz3r, nope
[04:39] <Hannofcart> Hello, I'm trying to connect to a wireless network from a new Xubuntu install. The wireless device does not show up in ifconfig. lshw shows me that my wireless card is a BCM4311 device. I don't have any means to connect via ethernet either (I am chatting from a different machine) so I tried the 'STA - No Intenet Access' method as described in the documentation: http://bit.ly/w0DUvf
[04:39] <Hannofcart> However, running System->Additional Drivers doesn't show any new drivers available for install. Can someone please tell me how to proceed?
[04:39] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Would the path to the file in /usr/share/applications suffice or is there a separate system-wide command?
[04:39] <Hannofcart> I already asked in #xubuntu (not enough people there I am afraid)
[04:39] <urlin2u> !broadcom
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Hannofcart has an offline install method using the install CD
[04:40] <Hannofcart> urlin2u, that is the instructions I am following (I linked to it above)
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: it will be listed in there as a desktop file, but the exec line for the command may be different
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: once you find the name of the file you can run:  grep Exec filename.desktop
[04:42] <Hannofcart> ActionParsnip, I have already installed Xubuntu, its only the network I am trying to configure. I did follow the instructions on the page you pointed out already (thats the link I posted in my question)
[04:42] <urlin2u> Hannofcart, the link is about the limit of my knowledge in this area hang tough though there are a couple of people on who know this stuff, I am just hesitant to out them.
[04:43] <Hannofcart> urlin2u, alright, thanks for even trying to help me with this :)
[04:43] <zoombuggy> My backrounds don't work anymore how do I fix it?
[04:44] <Brumagem> Is there anyone here that would be able to give me instructions on installing a RealTek wireless driver on a Toshiba Satellite?
[04:45] <robin0800> zoombuggy, what do you mean? more details please
[04:45] <urlin2u> !realtek | Brumagem
[04:45] <Brumagem> 8188ce
[04:46] <zoombuggy> They were changing but after some update, they stopped.
[04:46] <Dugie> Hi, ubuntu users
[04:46] <zoombuggy> how do I make them change again?
[04:47] <quixotedon> recommend you guys using clementine for music player.. :)
[04:47] <robin0800> zoombuggy, what was making them change?
[04:47] <zoombuggy> A progamme called gbackgound
[04:48] <Brumagem> The information on that webpage doesn't provide me with the info. I need.
[04:48] <urlin2u> Brumagem, here is a ubuntu forum link with that card. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1770202
[04:48] <reisio> Dugie: hi Dugie
[04:48] <robin0800> zoombuggy, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:49] <chelz> is there a way with lspci or hwinfo or something to find out if a computer has PCI Express 2.0 or just 1.0?
[04:49] <zoombuggy> 11.10 now
[04:49] <infinite> Hi: I redownloaded and reinstalled Ubuntu 11.10 and yet get a white screen upon initial  login; I installed 11.04 and am able to login; but cannot use the wireless connection on Laptop as it does not recognize my correct passwd. Laptop Toshiba P25-S507; Pentium 4, Nvidia Video Card; Atheros WiFi card. Thanks for your help!
[04:49] <pipalo> in terminal how can I list process usage ?
[04:49] <pipalo> can ps give you that information ?
[04:49] <chelz> pipalo: ps does, has cpu time info
[04:50] <Brumagem> Still doesn't help.
[04:50] <robin0800> zoombuggy, the easiest thing to do is install wallch to change your wallpapers
[04:50] <quixotedon> infinite: wireless connectioin works fine for me, go to 'network connection' and edit
[04:51] <quixotedon> infinite: or try updating the driver of your wireless device
[04:51] <urlin2u> infinite, your login password is the same for the wifi but the wifi has to have the personal key correct.
[04:52] <quixotedon> infinite: the same thing like urlin2u said, sometimes it's when you need to press the button on your wireless router (sometimes it happens to me too)
[04:52] <zykotick9> pipalo, try "ps aux"
[04:53] <javier_> ActionParsnip: can you tell me a bit more about google's DNS? I found something in google, but not very clear. Do you advise me to use it with Wicd or Network Manager is ok?
[04:53] <bumblebeebat> Hi Guys, I am using 11.10 and I have having trouble with the printers. I cant seem to add my network printer. It is an old school laserjet with a network connection.When I go to add printers it does not show under local host (obviously), in network, I can type in the address but the add button does not become selectable. Any know how to add manually add a network printer?
[04:53] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, I tried running it with "eog" and received this output: "GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: Timeout was reached" All I can get is bug reports on Launchpad confirming it's not just me
[04:53] <infinite> quixotedon: Should I use ethernet to update wifi drivers then connect wifi? urlin2u: My logini passwd is different from my Wifi passwd on Linksys Wifi router
[04:54] <urlin2u> Brumagem, realteks are not very Ubuntu friendly in general, not many of us use them knowing that if your waiting for help instead of looking on the web with the cards info you may wait a long time; just saying.
[04:54] <Brumagem> urlin2u: hello!
[04:55] <quixotedon> infinite: yup, you gotta connect to the internet then go to "additinonal drivers' (just press dash and type 'drivers') find the wireless broadcom driver
[04:55] <mark_> When I boot my desktop I am getting the following "SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address ..... already in use" and it just hangs. Also when I attempt to boot into recovery mode I get the following message, "Couldn't find whiptail, starting root shell instead of recovery menu."  Is there a way to blacklist a driver from root shell?
[04:55] <urlin2u> Brumagem, hello I have no idea of a fix here just passing on what I have seen on the irc, it is a personal observation.
[04:56] <quixotedon> infinite: well, i'm also using atheros but guess, it works fine without any hassle of updating the driver, maybe it will work for you (only a suggestion from a newbie though) :)
[04:56] <infinite> quixotedon:  OK Thanks will try that
[04:57] <urlin2u> quixotedon, he has a reltek I think.
[04:57] <urlin2u> realtek*
[04:57] <pipalo> zykotick9 Cheers man that is a good one. and also i just found about 'top' that is really handy !
[04:57] <quixotedon> urlin2u: isn't realtek the router??
[04:58] <infinite> quixotedon:  Will try that
[04:58] <urlin2u> quixotedon, I think it is the card
[04:59] <quixotedon> infinite: good luck then, urlin2u: hopefully that's the same way to resolve his problem, this is all i know though :)
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> my atheros disconnects from wi-fi on on both acer laptops 10.10 and 11.10 but the manual for the arm system i hooked up said it may cause a wireless connection problem :(
[05:00] <bumblebeebat> Oh, the add a new printer window displays the message "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall."
[05:00] <bumblebeebat> I am not sure if that is what is preventing me
[05:01] <zoLevDotCom> hi
[05:02] <Thelmaria> pipalo: Top is useful. htop is also cool :)
[05:02] <Brumagem> I type in find . -name  "*.ko" and find the rtl8188ce_pci.ko file then I type in sudo modprobe rtl8188ce_pci and it gives me a FATAL: ... message.
[05:03] <zoombuggy> robin0800: thank you for helping me out , it does work thanks
[05:06] <Starminn> Alright, my Ubuntu Software Center won't open. Help?
[05:08] <Brumagem> Hello?
[05:08] <whiskey1> world?
[05:08] <Brumagem> universe?
[05:10] <Brumagem> Does anybody here know how to go about installing a RealTek wireless adapter driver on a Toshiba Satellite?
[05:12] <ruslan_osmanov> hi. how do I disable Unity in 11.10?
[05:12] <reisio> ruslan_osmanov: what do you want to use instead
[05:12] <reisio> Brumagem: any particular toshiba satellite?
[05:13] <ruslan_osmanov> reisio, the classic environment
[05:13] <Brumagem> L755D
[05:13] <quixotedon> Starminn: try reboot
[05:13] <reisio> ruslan_osmanov: that's gone in 11.10, AIUI, the best you can do is install gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel / gnome-session-fallback
[05:13] <ruslan_osmanov> reisio, it was available in 10.10 on the login screen
[05:13] <reisio> ruslan_osmanov: log out and hit the cog next to your name
[05:13] <reisio> ruslan_osmanov: 10.10 != 11.10
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> !notunity
[05:14] <reisio> Brumagem: what's the device? lspci | grep -i net
[05:15] <Starminn> quixotedon, Ever since I started using 11.10 random applications have lost configurations, won't open, etc. I'm not going to  pull the whole "Windows mentality" and reboot every time something goes wrong. Will it help with the USC? Most likely. Will it solve the underlying problem? highly doubtful. I am determined to fix these problems. For right now, I'm using the command-line in lieu of the USC.
[05:15] <mark_> My desktop will not boot is there a way to get into a full terminal where I can use "apt" to update and fix my issues?
[05:15] <Starminn> quixotedon, But, thanks for the suggestion which I am 99.9% sure would solve it. ;) I'm just stubborn heh
[05:15] <Starminn> mark_, CTRL+ALT+F1
[05:16] <quixotedon> Starminn: sorry can't help with bash command,
[05:16] <quixotedon> ;
[05:16] <Starminn> mark_, F1-F6 are virtual terminals, F7 is the GUI
[05:16] <Starminn> quixotedon, I don't need help with them, I'm installing and removing myself. Just want the USC to work. :)
[05:16] <Starminn> And Eye of GNOME, and Nautilus.
[05:16] <javier_> hi, internet goes very slow with ubuntu (in firefox, chromium, jdownloader...), much slowler than windows. How can I change this?
[05:17] <mark_> Thanks Starminn
[05:17] <leo2007> how to teach IBUS to input Chinese?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> javier_: how much RAM does the system have?
[05:17] <javier_> 4 mb
[05:18] <pipalo> Hey ActionParsnip! whatup ?
[05:18] <javier_> AntionParsnip: 4mb
[05:18] <mark_> hum...when I hit ctrl+alt+F1 and I try to do sudo apt-get update it says, "-bash: sudo: command not found"
[05:18] <reisio> javier_: GB you mean?
[05:18] <reisio> javier_: try turning your torrents off :p
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> javier_: cool, run:  gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf    and add these lines: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl
[05:18] <javier_> reisio, ActionParsnip: 4 gb I mean
[05:18] <reisio> mark_: there wasn't already something running on F1?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> javier_: if you save the new file, close gedit then run:  sudo sysctl -p    it will apply and can help
[05:19] <pipalo> how can I feed 'ps -ef | grep defunct
[05:19] <mark_> When I boot it is hanging on my graphics card driver.  So at that point I hit control+alt+F1
[05:19] <pipalo> how can I feed 'ps -ef | grep defunct | grep -v to kill ?
[05:19] <pipalo> so it kills all of them ?
[05:20] <mmk> hi
[05:21] <mmk> can i know that how to use a battery meter in Ubuntu
[05:21] <mmk> hellow Any one there/>
[05:21] <javier_> ActionParsnip: I did that. What is it exactly?
[05:22] <mark_> When I login it doesn't recognize me as a root user
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> javier_: assigns more RAM to network activities
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> mark_: you aren't a root user, you are just a member of the admin group. That group gets to use sudo etc
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: kill `command here`
[05:23] <mark_> Oh I see...then is there a default root username and password?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> mark_: no, the root account is disabled. If you want a root console run: sudo -i
[05:23] <javier_> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks. What about what you mentioned about google's DNS? Do you think it may work?
[05:23] <mmk> 'can i know how to use a battery meter in ubuntu 10.10
[05:23] <mmk> ?
[05:24] <mmk> any one pleace help mee
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> javier_: it may be faster than what you have now. Its worth a shot
[05:24] <mark_> Where do I want to run sudo -i from?  From the recovery bash prompt?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> mark_: in a gnome terminal. The other stuff you can do happily as your user
[05:24] <javier_> ActionParsnip, ok, i will try to follow the tutorial you sent me. thanks!
[05:25] <bobweaver> could some one please explain this to me PLEASE [code] $ for file in *.JPG *.jpeg
[05:25] <bobweaver>     > do mv "$file" "${file%.*}.jpg"
[05:25] <bobweaver>     > done [/code]            let me see if I can get this right  $file means grab the filename and then  and do is the loop vm all "files "  and rename to file   the % I have no clue the * is wildcard ? and .jpg is the new renamed picture in this case ?
[05:25] <FloodBot1> bobweaver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <mark_> I am not able to boot - i am hanging when it comes to loading my graphics driver (I am getting "SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address ..... already in use")
[05:25] <bobweaver> #$%^&* FloodBot1
[05:26] <Flannel> bobweaver: Please mind the language and your tone, thanks.
[05:26] <bobweaver> !enter
[05:27] <bobweaver> I dont understand you bot
[05:27] <Brumagem> Alright evidently there are know Linux gurus in here.
[05:27] <pipalo> net prob, how can i do something like 'cat < ls' where ls can be anything with standard output ?
[05:28] <Brumagem> Okay, so nobody can help?  I am about to leave.
[05:28] <bobweaver> Brumagem, whats up ?
[05:29] <Tech-1> what are (unreadahead processes)  and how can i overcome this ?  thanks.
[05:31] <Brumagem> okey doke no help
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> mark_: possibly an IRQ conflict
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Brumagem: bobweaver asked you to clarify your issue, try a bit of patience...
[05:34] <mark_> What is an IRQ conflict?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> mark_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrupt_request
[05:35] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  he pm mes asks me to help I say ok then I say open terminal and he says I am on windows
[05:36] <bobweaver> pm's me *
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: figures
[05:36] <mark_> Ok I know what you mean - how do I resolve it?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> mark_: check BIOS to ensure the BIOS is doing stuff right. You may need to manually set stuff. Not sure
[05:37] <mark_> I have read that I can just blacklist the driver.  Is this something that I can do without root access?
[05:38] <CarlFK> mark_: no.  where are you seeing the IRQ conflict?
[05:38] <erase> hi, someone executed: "sudo chmod -x chmod" how do i give chmod executing permission again?
[05:38] <mark_> When I boot it hangs and says "SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address ..... already in use"
[05:38] <bobweaver> erase,  with the +
[05:38] <CarlFK> bobweaver: look closer...
[05:38] <bobweaver> chmod +x
[05:39] <erase> bobweaver, but chmod isn't executable
[05:39] <CarlFK> bobweaver: chmod won't run ;/
[05:39] <bobweaver> ohh
[05:39] <erase> that's the challenge i'm presenting ;)
[05:39] <bobweaver> reinstall chmod ?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> mark_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38920/boot-splash-broken-by-sp5100-tco-timer-mmio-address-0xyyyyyyy-already-in-use
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> erase: if you boot to live CD you can chmod it there
[05:40] <pnorman> erase: write a short c program that calls chmod()
[05:40] <linuxuz3r> is there a way to increase the number of work spaces in 11.10?
[05:40] <erase> ActionParsnip, i can't reboot
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> mark_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/740011
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> erase: why not?
[05:41] <erase> ActionParsnip, it's a server.
[05:41] <pnorman> erase: do you have python installed?
[05:41] <bobweaver> reinstall bash ?
[05:41] <bobweaver> can you do thata >
[05:41] <bobweaver> that ? *
[05:42] <nocturnal_> how can i see what is installed on my computer?
[05:42] <erase> bobweaver, yap
[05:42] <erase> bobweaver, no
[05:42] <leo2007> where is unity's preference setting?
[05:42] <erase> pnorman, yap
[05:43] <nocturnal_> how can i see what is installed on my computer from cli?
[05:43] <CarlFK> pnorman: python is part of ubuntu's base install.. it would fall apart without it :)
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> erase: then you qwill need to plan a maintenance window to do it. You could use sshfs and then access it from another system at cli and chmod it there. You may be able to also reinstall the package which chmod is part of
[05:43] <pnorman> CarlFK: it'd also fall apart without a working chmod :P
[05:43] <pnorman> erase: if you (as root) open up python and use os.fchmod it might work
[05:44] <bobweaver> nocturnal_,  one way to see programs    cat /usr/share/applications
[05:44] <rumpe1> nocturnal_, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[05:44] <bkerensa> leo2007: Which settings do you need?
[05:44] <bkerensa> leo2007: If you want to customize Unity then you need to install CCSM
[05:44] <erase> pnorman, ActionParsnip, bobweaver thanks. already solved it: perl -e 'chmod 0755, "chmod"'
[05:45] <bobweaver> why you could not do that with bash is above me
[05:45] <leo2007> bkerensa: sometimes when I open the file browser, the unity bar flashes when does not switch to the newly-launched app
[05:45] <leo2007> that happens with firefox too.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> erase: nice
[05:46] <leo2007> for example, when I open a link in emacs
[05:46] <nocturnal_> bobweaver: that didnt work
[05:46] <grayhatpython> hey can anybody tell me how to upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 11.10 without losing the data?
[05:46] <bkerensa> leo2007: What you describe sounds like a bug or defect versus a setting needing a tweak
[05:46] <nocturnal_> rumpe1: how can i keep i see it page by page in a tty?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> grayhatpython: make sure your backups are sufficiently recent
[05:47] <rumpe1> nocturnal_, add "| less"  at the end of the command
[05:47] <grayhatpython> so it's not possible without a backup?
[05:47] <mynotes> tes
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> grayhatpython: you will need to upgrade to natty first, then to Oneiric
[05:47] <bobweaver> nocturnal_,  ls /usr/share/applications/
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> grayhatpython: yes it is but you should have a backup if it is of value to you
[05:47] <mynotes> how to add user to groups
[05:47] <bobweaver> nocturnal_,  sorry
[05:47] <grayhatpython> ya but that takes lot of Internet, i think i need to do fresh install
[05:47] <bkerensa> leo2007: However you can install CCSM by sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:48] <bkerensa> leo2007: do that from terminal
[05:48] <HulkHogan> nocturnal_: dpkg --get-selections |more
[05:48] <mynotes> I'll try this but got an error useradd -G developers myusername
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: sudo usermod -a -G group user
[05:48] <qin> mynotes: sudo adduser user_name group_name
[05:48]  * leo2007 installs
[05:48] <pipalo> How can I list all user and groups ?
[05:49] <qin> groups
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> grayhatpython: upgrading does take a lot of time, clean install gives a clean OS rather than the old fluff from the old install too
[05:49] <nocturnal_> HulkHogan! wrestler hero!
[05:50] <HulkHogan> nocturnal_: =)
[05:50]  * nocturnal_ gives HulkHogan a handshake and a cookie
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: cat /etc/passwd |grep "/home" |cut -d: -f1    will list all local users
[05:51] <pipalo> ActionParsnip cheers, is that ubuntu specific or should work other dist as well ?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: which dist are you meaning or are you just curious?
[05:52] <pipalo> just curious, cause of /etc/passwd
[05:52] <leo2007> bkerensa: after install CCSM, how to launch it?
[05:52] <erase> can i go from 10.10 to 11.10  directly?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> pipalo: linux uses that file so will be portable
[05:53] <bkerensa> leo2007: Click the App lens button on the launcher and type in Compiz
[05:53] <urlin2u> erase, nope.
[05:53] <b0ri5> hi anybody have suggestions for setting up a fish tank webcam server?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> erase: you can but its not advised nor supported. You'll more than likely end up with a big mess
[05:53] <bkerensa> leo2007: Should offer your a compiz settings manager
[05:53] <bobweaver>  ActionParsnip  |cut -d: -f1    means cut cut the text command -d is delimiter -f1 is field 1 ?
[05:53] <erase> ok tks, ActionParsnip and urlin2u
[05:53] <bkerensa> urlin2u: Yes he can
[05:53] <bkerensa> erase: Its not too hard but its not advised
[05:54] <erase> bkerensa, i'll just download the 11.10 iso. thanks
[05:54] <urlin2u> bkerensa, so if I had said not advised would you be happy
[05:54] <bkerensa> erase: You can switch between architectures and releases regardless of what people say but its not advised... I switched from x64 to i386 and i386 back to x64 without issues
[05:54] <bkerensa> :P
[05:55] <leo2007> bkerensa: whereto find the compiz settings manager?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> !ccsm
[05:55] <HulkHogan> just setup sperate partition rather then upgrading
[05:55] <bkerensa> leo2007: Click top button on launcher and search for compiz?
[05:56] <bobweaver> !forloop
[05:56] <bkerensa> leo2007: Or as ActionParsnip indicated go to system settings them appearance
[05:56] <bkerensa> then*
[05:56] <bobweaver> !loop > bobweaver
[05:56] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: I tried this 'sudo usermod -a -G groupname user'. got an error 'sudo : usermood : command not found '
[05:56] <b0ri5> the webcam-server package doesn't run on ppc?
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: read the error you just pasted...
[05:57] <bobweaver> !for > bobweaver
[05:57] <bkerensa> bobweaver: What are you trying to do?
[05:57] <bobweaver> learn about for loops
[05:58] <bkerensa> ahh :)
[05:58] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Is it working?
[05:58] <leo2007> bkerensa: thanks
[05:58] <bobweaver> nope
[05:58] <bkerensa> !loops | bobweaver
[05:58] <bkerensa> nope
[05:58] <bkerensa> no factoid for that
[05:58] <bobweaver> the bot knows nothing about it
[05:58] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: is says that usermod is not a command do I need to install that? is there any other command I can use
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: 'sudo : usermood : command not found'  is your error. I said to run usermod not usermood
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: again, READ the error
[05:59] <bobweaver> bkerensa, I am reasing this but it is real ?????
[06:00] <bobweaver> reading *   http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/
[06:01] <mark_> ActionParsnip:  I am looking through the launchpad page and somone ran grep -i sp5100 /boot/config-`uname -r` to what appears to turn off SCP5100 (# CONFIG_SP5100_TCO is not set)  When I type grep -i sp5100 /boot/config-`uname -r` I get "no such file or directory"
[06:01] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: I pasted a wrong error..   here the error 'sudo: usermod: command not found'
[06:01] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Real? Yes it seems to be a guide to BASH
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[06:02] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  I got it from the bash channel they saud to check this out http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/tutoriallist      but they are all?????
[06:02] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: Final
[06:02] <bobweaver> said *
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: can you run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebint /etc/lsb-release      what is the URL generated please
[06:04] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Do you have a Ubuntu related support question?
[06:05] <kcj> Is there any way to change what causes my laptop to wake from suspend? I want it to only wake when I press the power button. I'm running 11.04.
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: are you running centos ?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> kcj: I think that's actually a BIOS setting
[06:07] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: I ask my admin that we are using centos
[06:07] <mynotes> I forgot that
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: then it's not supported here, this is ubuntu support only
[06:08] <mynotes> ActionParsnip: yes. I forgot that. thanks
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> mynotes: np bro
[06:08] <kcj> tonyyarusso, Really?
[06:08] <Newbeeans> Hi awake ppl
[06:09] <HulkHogan> crickets
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> kcj: I recall seeing "wake on ..." options sometimes
[06:10] <kcj> tonyyarusso, I think that would be wake on lan.
[06:10] <Starminn> Eye of GNOME (Image Viewer) fails to start. The following is the error message -- GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: Timeout was reached
[06:11] <Starminn> Assistance?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> kcj: No, not just that - things like keyboard activity, modem ring, etc.
[06:12] <kcj> tonyyarusso, My BIOS doesn't have such luxuries.
[06:12] <bobweaver> bkerensa,  yes I am trying to figure out bash so I can use it to use this   http://paste.ubuntu.com/727910/
[06:13] <bkerensa> bobweaver: Learning Bash is not a support question though.... There are many resources for online learning of BASH however
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eog/+bug/880227
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: found that in about 10 seconds using websearches....
[06:14] <bobweaver> umm... did you read what I am trying to do for real trying to do . making iso of ubuntu on while loops
[06:14] <Skapare> I'm trying to do an "apt-get remove" or "apt-get purge" on a group of packages (APACHE) ... then apt-get tells me what packages it is going to install (some PHP5 stuff) ... why does it want to install those and how to I prevent it?
[06:15] <Newbeeans> I'm still running slow...does anyone know the top 2 or 3 causes/fixes for this?
[06:15] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  open terminal and enter "htop" what is taking up all the resources ?
[06:16] <napster> How can I create a disk image of the current installation?
[06:16] <bobweaver> napster,  a live iso ?
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> napster: partimage or dd can do it
[06:16] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, I found that last time I looked. I found no fix in it
[06:16] <bobweaver> if so remastersys is all right
[06:16] <bobweaver> as long as it is 4gig or smaller
[06:16] <Newbeeans> downloading....
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: then its still a bug and will still affect the software until it is solved
[06:17] <Skapare> here are the apt-get remove results that show it trying to do install ... http://pastebin.com/EiEyb8Qy
[06:17] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, :( So.... the other program you mentioned -- ImageMagick?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: could use gthumb instead
[06:17] <napster> bobweaver: not exactly. I just want to copy my hard disk image to another machine. It will be great since I can save my time
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: imagemagick can view pictures too
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: or gpicview
[06:17] <bobweaver> !wodim > napster
[06:18] <bobweaver> ok
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> !info gpicview
[06:18] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, So all of these alternatives are also light image editing progs as well, yes?
[06:19] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Then why do we include Eye of GNOME at all? Why not just go all Shotwell?
[06:19] <pipalo> !botsnack
[06:19] <bobweaver> napster,  wodim -> http://linuxconfig.org/using-command-line-wodim-tool-to-burn-iso-image
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: gpicview is a viewer, there are image editting tools available. I believe gthumb can do stuff
[06:19] <napster> bobweaver: ok, let me check
[06:20] <Newbeeans> bobweaver: I am not sure what I'm looking at here...virt?
[06:20] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  htop is a live monitor it monitors what the system is using and the cpu usage and mem usage
[06:21] <zoLevDotCom> hi
[06:21] <napster> bobweaver: But, I dont have a burning device. Can I create an image file?
[06:21] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  in other words what is eating up you cpu
[06:21] <Newbeeans> NTP is at 30g
[06:21] <bobweaver> napster,  you have to create iso before burring a iso :>)
[06:21] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Ah, okay. On a separate note though, why do we have both Eye of GNOME *and* Shotwell as defaults? When they both do they same thing when simply viewing an image?
[06:22] <bobweaver> napster,  most gui programs use wodim to create the iso
[06:22] <bobweaver> like k3b
[06:22] <napster> ok
[06:23] <bobweaver> napster,  have you thought about taring it up ?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: not sure. I don't use gnome desktop these days, and when I did I used minimal install and installed what I needed rather than having to gut the fluff out I don't use and instal what I want
[06:23] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Ah, I see. Out of curiosity, what do you use?
[06:23] <HulkHogan> Starminn: shotwell is is photo manager, EOG is just a viewer
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: LXDE and KDE
[06:24] <Starminn> HulkHogan, Yes, but if you right-click on an image and click, "Open With -> Shotwell Photo Viewer" you can see that Shotwell clearly has a section devoted to being a Viewer.
[06:24] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Ah, okay.
[06:24] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, I'll just remove EOG then, as there really isn't much use for it then in my eyes. *shrug*
[06:24] <HulkHogan> Starminn: Shotwell does both but it is not a better viewer, thats why is quicker to use EOG
[06:25] <Starminn> HulkHogan, I do agree -- EOG is quicker to start
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: if it is of no use to you, why not :)
[06:26] <Starminn> ActionParsnip, Well, and if it's not working anyway.. *Shrug* heh
[06:26] <HulkHogan> Starminn: use Mirage, is lighter then EOG
[06:26] <Starminn> Using Ubuntu 11.10, Nautilus is constantly replacing my chosen icon set with the default GNOME icons
[06:26] <Starminn> HulkHogan, I'll look into that, thank you.
[06:27] <Newbeeans> what is the addy for uploading my htop screenshot. I am not sure what is vital and what can be stopped.
[06:27] <Starminn> Newbeeans, imagebin.org is usually a common one
[06:27] <bobweaver> !screenshot | Starminn
[06:27] <bobweaver> sorry starminn
[06:27] <Starminn> bobweaver, Not a problem. And ubottu's left the channel anyway
[06:28] <bobweaver> cool I meant it for Newbeeans
[06:28]  * Starminn nods
[06:29] <indu> hi frnds
[06:29] <Newbeeans> bobweaver: http://imagebin.org/182404 (or anyone else can look too)
[06:29] <indu> how to remove the file in ubuntu what are commands using for remove
[06:30] <bobweaver> in rm
[06:30] <bobweaver> indu  rm
[06:30] <bobweaver> Newbeeans, looks like mem is more of a issue then cpu
[06:31] <Newbeeans> I wonder if it is using all the mem
[06:31] <Newbeeans> brb sry
[06:31] <HulkHogan> Newbeeans: firefox mem leak?
[06:31] <pshr> hi, this might be irrelavent but how do I stop getting messages like some one has quit or some one has joined the channel ?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> pshr: which client?
[06:32] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  please open terminal and type in   uname -a && free -m     and paste.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  looks like samba is taking up a bunh of mem
[06:34] <Starminn> Using Ubuntu 11.10, Nautilus keeps replacing my icon set with GNOME default. This is only in Nautilus -- not the whole desktop. Assistance?
[06:34] <Newbeeans> ok back ok on -m
[06:34] <bobweaver> Newbeeans, paste.ubuntu.com PLZ
[06:35] <Newbeeans> i'm not getting anything ..command not found
[06:35] <Newbeeans> just a sec
[06:35] <bobweaver> Oo
[06:35] <bobweaver> uname -a && free -m
[06:36] <Newbeeans> Linux main-desktop 3.0.0-13-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Mon Oct 17 20:18:51 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached Mem:          1754       1643        110          0         22        222 -/+ buffers/cache:       1399        354 Swap:         5139        450       4689
[06:36] <HulkHogan>  /exit
[06:36] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  64 bit with only 2 gig mem ?
[06:37] <Newbeeans> no way
[06:37] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  do you use samba all the time or something ?
[06:37] <b0ri5> where do usb webcams usually show up in /dev?
[06:38] <fleixius> How do I get my bootup text back without pressing escape during bootup.  I have a HTPC which i would love to watch bootup in the event of failures.  I have removed quiet and splash from my default grub params, still a no go.
[06:38] <pshr> ActionParsnip: using webchat.freenode.net
[06:38] <Newbeeans> I don't know what samba is...but it looks like the machine I bought for learning does show on sticker 2GB DDR3
[06:38] <pshr> ActionParsnip: All these status messages from all the users are cluttering the real messages
[06:39] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  Yes free -m shows us that
[06:40] <Newbeeans> I thought it might not be using all avail mem..but it is sadly
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> pshr: not sure in the web client tbh
[06:41] <fleixius> Newbeeans, whats your issue?
[06:41] <Newbeeans> nonissue fleixius :)
[06:41] <p1oooop1> hey ActionParsnip
[06:41] <p1oooop1> just saying hi again :)
[06:41] <Newbeeans> my brain is the problem I'm new :))
[06:42] <p1oooop1> Newbeeans: CONSOLE COMMANDS! :D
[06:42] <fleixius> Free is a poor reference for available memory.
[06:42] <p1oooop1> the best part of being new is the console commands... all the data just makes me melt with excitement.
[06:43] <Newbeeans> I have to say when the command is good it excites me ...is that pitiful?
[06:43] <pshr> ActionParsnip: figured it out, tq
[06:44] <Newbeeans> I wanted to mention I was able to fix my palmpre (accidently left it connected to pc during Ubuntu install)
[06:44] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  cO_ol
[06:44] <Newbeeans> I was told it was linux based but i don't know if thats true
[06:44] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  do you know what sysv-rc-conf   is ?
[06:45] <Newbeeans> nope
[06:45] <bobweaver> or B.U.M
[06:45] <fleixius> BUM is for bums
[06:45] <Newbeeans> b.u.m. yes...doesn't work or leave my couch...no command correct it!
[06:45] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  they are tools to stop things or to start things on boot like samba
[06:46] <fleixius> If you are going to teach him sysv, at least teach him update-rc,d
[06:46] <Newbeeans> Ah
[06:46] <Newbeeans> <~her
[06:46] <fleixius> meh
[06:47] <bobweaver> fleixius,  jusmp in and teanh
[06:47] <bobweaver> wow teach *
[06:47] <bobweaver> jump *
[06:47] <Newbeeans> bobweaver: your typos are nothing...the other day I was asked if english was my first lang
[06:48] <bobweaver> :>)
[06:48] <bobweaver> fleixius,  please teach us about update-rc
[06:49] <fleixius> bobweaver, working on removing these screen artifacts after an autologin + mythtv with lightdm.  It's kicking my arse.
[06:49] <tp43> I would like to do some flash development on Linux, is it possible?
[06:49] <fleixius> tp43, certainly.
[06:49] <fleixius> I used to do AIR devel on arch.
[06:49] <tp43> fleixius, great, can you forward me somewhere to get started?
[06:49] <fleixius> wine is your friend ;-)
[06:49] <tp43> fleixius, well, i just wanted to simple stuff for webdesign
[06:50] <divine9> is it possible to run demos from command line interface?
[06:50] <bobweaver> divine9,  time to install figlet ?
[06:50] <bobweaver> demos ?
[06:50] <fleixius> tp43, But, you can certainly use eclipse if you want a full-blown IDE.
[06:50] <tp43> fleixius, yeah true that so had a good experience, did it cost money?
[06:50] <marun> I have installed squid 2.7.STABLE9 on ubuntu 11.04. I need to block few sites by putting them in a text file. I searched docs. But couldn't fix. Please help
[06:51] <tp43> fleixius, well, no I dont want to go full blown for now, just a little bit
[06:51] <divine9> ever download a game, and the intro to the crack is an audio/visual experience? those are demos
[06:51] <bobweaver> divine9,  by demos you mean presentations ?
[06:51] <fleixius> tp43, Google up some flash development archives for ubuntu in google, you'll get hundreds of results.
[06:52] <tp43> fleixius, ok
[06:52] <fleixius> It really depends if your going flash or actionscript..
[06:52] <bobweaver> Newbeeans, I dont know about update rc I am sorry
[06:52] <Newbeeans> me either
[06:52] <fleixius> tp43, http://www.williambrownstreet.net/wordpress/?p=78 -> will guide you through most of it using a simple text editor, gedit.
[06:52] <Newbeeans> Do you use text editor in Ubuntu to build a website?
[06:52] <tp43> fleixius, yeah, I don't know the difference, the flash site is overwhelming, and installing their prodcuts on linux is  pain
[06:53] <Newbeeans> o nvrmd...fleixius said it
[06:53] <fleixius> Newbeeans, update-rc.d creates symbolic links between the bootup run levels and the actual startup scripts.
[06:53] <tp43> fleixius, thanks for the link. I would prefer to stick to text editors
[06:53] <fleixius> tp43, check out sublime text 2 - bad ass text editor
[06:53] <os_> hi
[06:54] <tp43> fleixius, really, good for html, css, php, and flash?  Cause I've been using emacs, and its freezing on me when switch away and back for some reason
[06:54] <fleixius> tp43, emacs..ugh...talk about old and out-dated.
[06:54] <Newbeeans> what is emac?
[06:54] <os_> i have installed xen from a binary package
[06:55] <tp43> emacs has some nice commands, like search and replace
[06:55] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  a text editor and more made by gnu
[06:55] <os_> but i do see any new kernel in boot menu
[06:55] <bobweaver> !emacs
[06:55] <fleixius> tp43, I do a lot of ruby/rails and metasploit development.  It'll conquer just about anything.
[06:55] <Newbeeans> o I thought it was from apple
[06:55] <tp43> I like less mouse involvemet
[06:55] <fleixius> tp43, check out sublime.  It's retarded awesome.
[06:56] <bobweaver> Newbeeans,  nope I think that satallman made emacs
[06:56] <Newbeeans> quite the oxymoron...love it fleixius
[06:56] <bobweaver> think is key word
[06:56] <fleixius> Newbeeans, ;-)
[06:56] <tp43> Whats the difference betwee flash and as3?
[06:57] <os_> any ideas/
[06:57] <os_> ?
[06:57] <fleixius> tp43, let me put it this way, about 2 months in its alpa state the editor was far superior then most products which have been on the shelf for years.
[06:58] <marun> os_: I think xen has its own console
[06:58] <bobweaver> allright fleixius  I have to see this txt editor
[06:58] <fleixius> AS handles most of the interactive pieces.  AS will also enable you to use logic within your applications
[06:58] <marun> os_: check the conse and try to boot from it
[06:58] <solofight> i recently upgraded my os. Atta ! ! i hate the how the menu and docs have changed. how do i retain the latest os upgrade with just reverting back the UI portion of it to the old state ?
[06:59] <bobweaver> fleixius  this is freesoftware or opensource ?
[06:59] <fleixius> solofight, Are you on 11.10 now or ...
[06:59] <fleixius> bobweaver, it's a paid for app with an unlimited free trial.  ;-)
[06:59] <os_> marun, how to do this
[06:59] <bobweaver> not free as in beer
[06:59] <os_> just a moment !
[07:00] <fleixius> The trial is unlimited, but I always pay my respect for good work ....beer is a wonderful by-product for good work
[07:00] <bobweaver> beer is great for opensource and foss
[07:01] <bobweaver> and fsf
[07:01] <fleixius> However, I would urge single barrel bourbon any day of the week...
[07:01] <ani> Hello anybody working on BBxM?
[07:02] <marun> os_: got it? in the menu, u wil find xen menu item. click on that to open the console. Or, u can check xen --help for cmdline
[07:02] <ani> Hello anybody working on BBxM?
[07:03] <Islam> how do I know that I'm running on 64-bit or 32 ?
[07:03] <Islam> ?
[07:03] <rumpe1> Islam, in console: "uname -m"
[07:04] <fleixius> Islam, type arch in console
[07:04] <fleixius> or the faithful uname :-)
[07:04] <ani> for bit type :    getconf LONG_BIT in ur terminal
[07:04] <fleixius> ani, cool story bro.
[07:05] <ani> thank you fleixius !
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Islam: i686 == 32bit. x86_64 == 64bit
[07:05] <soidexe> Hey there! if would be nice to split particular tasks into different workspaces and not show it on another workspaces. Anyone know the right way in unity?
[07:05] <AdminSetup> !idjc
[07:05] <tp43> fleixius, see the download link at http://www.williambrownstreet.net/wordpress/?p=78 for the flex sdk, it's dead now it seems, there's no Linux version there anymore
[07:05] <Islam> thanx guys
[07:06] <fleixius> tp43, It's probably outdated.  You'll have to do some old fashion research.
[07:06] <Islam> ActionParsnip: does it make a diffrence to have the 64 ? and can I have it any way ?
[07:06] <AdminSetup> Can enyone please guide me with Internet DJ Console ?
[07:06] <ani> Hello Anybody in there working on BeagleBoard xM
[07:06] <fleixius> I havent worked on AIR in a bit.  But I know its there.
[07:07] <fleixius> ani, try going to #beagle
[07:07] <tp43> Ahhh, forget flex and flash and adobe
[07:07] <bobweaver> I can not find license for sublime looks real cool is it open source ?
[07:07] <ani> Fleixius: I posted in Beagle but no replies
[07:07] <tp43> fleixius, lets see what stuff you do with ruby/rails
[07:07] <fleixius> bobweaver, it's free.
[07:08] <bobweaver> fleixius,  not price
[07:08] <fleixius> bobweaver, It's an unlimited trial..just download and use it
[07:08] <fleixius> ani, try ##linux
[07:08] <bobweaver> It looks like they use github
[07:08] <ani> thank you fleixius !
[07:08] <bobweaver> fleixius,  I try not to put that stuff on my computer
[07:09] <fleixius> Who doesnt now-a-days.  Git is superior and github makes my loins quiver.
[07:09] <anli_> Hello! I tried to install nvidia nonfree. Now, I only get screen garbage when trying to startup. How to revert?
[07:09] <GeorgeJ> Is there any place one could find the latest sun-java jre and jdk? Either a repository or debs would be cool
[07:09]  * bobweaver has love for the bazzar
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Islam: if you have a 64bit CPU you can run either. High CPU intensive tasks benefit with 64bit. Standard desktop stuff doesn't see much
[07:09] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: only oracle.com
[07:09] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: everything else is not allowed anymore
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: www.java.com
[07:10] <bobweaver> not in medibuntu ?
[07:10] <iceroot> bobweaver: no
[07:10] <AdminSetup> Hi...Is there any live audio streamer available in UBuntu ? I want to stream music over wifi.(Where my pC will be transmitter and others with Desktops/laptops with wifi will be reciever)
[07:10] <bobweaver> thanks iceroot
[07:10] <iceroot> bobweaver: not allowed anymore to distribut java
[07:10] <GeorgeJ> Aye, aye, I know. I just find it exremely uncol for them not to provide .debs >.>
[07:10] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: say thank you to oracle
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: Linux (self-extracting file)  filesize: 20.6 MB    for 32bit from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[07:10] <Islam__> thanx guys
[07:10] <bobweaver> iceroot,  more proprietary licenses ?
[07:10] <fleixius> ActionParsnip, software written for 64bit benefits, nearly every software now-a-days has 64bit support.
[07:10] <os_> marun, but there is not any xen item !
[07:11] <iceroot> bobweaver: they changed the licence so you are not allowed anymore to distribute java
[07:11] <GeorgeJ> Freaking oracle. Argh!
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: its quite insignificant if the user is word processing and web browsing
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: yep, exactly
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: its not hard to install
[07:11] <fleixius> ActionParsnip, doubtful, let me see you open an excel sheet with over 64k lines.
[07:11]  * bobweaver turns green
[07:11] <os_> marun, i use kubuntu
[07:11] <fleixius> Or a multi-megabyte access file ;-)
[07:12] <GeorgeJ> I know, it's not about that.  Rogue files everywhere!
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: I bet the difference is about 5 seconds, which in human time is not a lot at all
[07:12] <AdminSetup> Anyone to help ?
[07:12] <marun> os_: hmm.. no idea
[07:12] <os_> marun, maybe i have to compile xen
[07:12] <fleixius> ActionParsnip, perhaps your not fully utilizing your computers potential..perhaps why the benefits are merely invisible to you.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: and hugs files like that would be classed as "High CPU intensive", right?
[07:13] <os_> not install it as a deb package!
[07:13] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: 5 seconds? you mean 5ms :)
[07:13] <fleixius> ActionParsnip, No, 64bit doesnt mean HIGH CPU.  It means a kernel that can support over 32bits of data.
[07:13]  * bobweaver is marching on oracale
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: I know what it means
[07:14] <GeorgeJ> I've created a bin folder in my $HOME. .profile should add it to $PATH, but when I open a terimnal, $PATH doesn't contain $HOME\bin. Is .profile just for terminal logins?  How can I add $HOME\bin to $PATH automaticaly when I open a terminal(ctrl+alt+t)?
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: for a user whom is web browsing and emailing the difference between 64bt and 32bit will be hardly noticable at all
[07:14] <Islam> Actionparsnip: I got that reply on the terminal, does that mean I have a 64 cpu ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/727939/
[07:14] <bobweaver> bashrc ?
[07:14] <Newbeeans> I just created a html page...text editors are powerful lil things :D
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: to ~/.bashrc   add the line:   export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
[07:15] <GeorgeJ> Allright, so .bashrc gets executed. Thanks!
[07:15] <swetha> hi frnd
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJ: you can then run:  source ~/.bashrc    and it will be applied from then onwards
[07:16] <Islam> Actionparsnip: I got that reply on the terminal, does that mean I have a 64 cpu ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/727939/
[07:16] <swetha> how to remove the file  which command using
[07:16] <Newbeeans> well I learned 2 things tonight...back tomorrow for more tidbits gn lovely ppl
[07:16] <GeorgeJ> ActionParsnip: Aye, tyvm
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Islam: it says dtes64 so more than likely
[07:17] <Islam> ActionParsnip: so thats a yes ?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Islam: if you find out what your CPU is using: cat /proc/cpuinfo      you can use the web to find out
[07:17] <fleixius> Islam, why not just run arch or uname -m?
[07:17] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: Islam lm is the important flag which says the cpu is amd64
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> fleixius: uname -m   isn't necessarily the arch of the CPU, which is what is desired
[07:17] <iceroot> fleixius: uname is not reading the hardware-architecutre, its reading the kernel-architecutre and does not say what your hardware can do
[07:18] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, wouldn't I first have to remove openjdk before installing the oracle jdk?
[07:18] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: no
[07:18] <Islam> ok I have ubuntu 11.10 32-bit, how do I upgrade to the 64 ?
[07:18] <fleixius> Understandably, but for most-users it whom don't know how to decide which arch (being 32/64) their system is running, it'll do fine.
[07:19] <swetha> hi.........
[07:19] <GeorgeJ> Oh, great. But then I'd have to switch binaries, no? Is this dnone with update-alternatives?
[07:19] <iceroot> Islam: reinstall
[07:19] <grayhatpython> hi swetha you can remove file from rm command
[07:19] <iceroot> Islam: you cant upgrade the architecture
[07:20] <iceroot> GeorgeJ: dont know if it is detecting your manually installed sun-java but yes that is normally the step
[07:20] <Islam> iceroot: how ? and reinstalling the 64-bit will matter that much ? I mean will it make a big diffrence with me ?
[07:20] <iceroot> Islam: only if you have more then ~4gb ram
[07:20] <Islam> iceroot: nope I got 3GB ram
[07:21] <iceroot> Islam: ram + vga-ram + bus
[07:21] <swetha> graypatpy: im using this one rm etc/init.d/openbravo-postgresql
[07:21] <swetha> graypa:it's nt remove
[07:21] <iceroot> Islam: then there is no real reason if this means to install amd64. if it is a fresh system i would reinstall, if the system is already running i would run with 32bit
[07:21] <grayhatpython> try sudo rm etc/init.d/openbravo-postgresql
[07:22] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, does glassfish work with openjdk?
[07:22] <rickyrich> hi all, i have a great problem with a partition on my system withe a triple boot
[07:22] <rickyrich> with*
[07:23] <Islam> iceroot: so you say it wouldnt make a big difference with my 3GB ram, so you recommend me not to reinstall
[07:23] <iceroot> Islam: if you dont plan to upgrade your ram, everything is fine
[07:23] <iceroot> Islam: but if it is a fresh installation i would reinstall
[07:24] <iceroot> Islam: but there is no difference you will see, just the ram-size
[07:24] <grayhatpython> swetha try $ sudo apt-get remove openbravo-3