[08:19] <MestreLion> bennyp: but you CAN create an aditional /data partition.. and use that to store docs, music, etc
[08:20] <TylerW> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /home
[08:20] <bennyp> MestreLion: i'm installing for a decidedly non-techie client, so i'd rather keep it simple
[08:20] <bennyp> Installer gives me 1 partition of 768mb and another with the rest of the free space, that's correct?
[08:20] <MestreLion> TylerW: fat-32 (or ntfs) has no unix permitions... using /home with that ill be chaos
[08:22] <MestreLion> bennyp: you might set up as this: leave /home inside / , no need for a separate parttion in an usb install.  I was just answering the question, lol
[08:22] <subdesign> Riddell, its 100% an iso image not a linux bin file
[08:22] <TylerW> how do I report pM spams?
[08:22] <MestreLion> bennyp: then create symlinks from your user's ~/Documents , ~/Music, etc, pointing to /data/documents , /data/music , etc
[08:22] <bennyp> MestreLion: i think i'll do that
[08:23] <bennyp> how big should the system partition be? it's an 8gb flash drive, so as much space as i can dedicate to fat the better
[08:24] <MestreLion> bennyp: this way the ~/ files (including all config files) will be ext3/4 , while your user's data will be saved in a "sharable" fat/ntfs partition.. it is THE best solution, not only for usb installs (I did that with my mom, gf, and myself)
[08:24] <bennyp> and if I understand that layout, all the files will be written to /, not to /data
[08:24] <vta> Is there any way to convert from i386 package to arm package?
[08:24] <bennyp> MestreLion: ahh i get it
[08:24] <ohs> MestreLion: the vmware problem is solved, I need to mount the SD card. do you know how I can mount the SD card on ubuntu?
[08:25] <bennyp> I'll delete the 'media' directories under ~ and link them to dirs on /data
[08:25] <MestreLion> bennyp: that's a tough question... depends on usage... for a full install you need at least 3~4 GB for / , that does not leave much space for files
[08:25] <MestreLion> exactly bennyp
[08:26] <MestreLion> ohs: Ubuntu should already list the SD card in Nautilus... usually double-click is enough
[08:26] <bennyp> MestreLion: so 4 gb for / and 4 for data
[08:26] <bennyp> and i'll tell them that for extra storage, they can buy more flash drives / sd cards
[08:26] <bennyp> this is really cool :) :) :)
[08:27] <MestreLion> bennyp: that's still very limited... your user would not be able to install too much software with 4G... 5GB would be better
[08:27] <ejv> vipintruder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/894808/
[08:27] <ohs> MestreLion: on vmware room, they said that SD cards should be mount if I am running ubuntu on vmware
[08:27] <ohs> MestreLion: could you please tell me how can I find my SD card and mount it?
[08:28] <MestreLion> bennyp: you may consider using a LiveCD partition + casper rw partition... ever heard of that?
[08:28] <MestreLion> ohs: open NAutilus, it should be there
[08:28] <bennyp> MestreLion: I have, but I don't want the install to be the livecd version of the OS
[08:29] <MestreLion> bennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's
[08:29] <bennyp> MestreLion: how feasible would it be to 'roll my own' livecd from a full install?
[08:29] <TylerW> mestrelion: linux inside vmware doesn't auto mount sd cards
[08:29] <MestreLion> bennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data
[08:29] <ohs> MestreLion: forgive my ignorance, how can I open NAutilus?
[08:30] <MestreLion> ohs: File Manager
[08:30] <TylerW> mestrelion: we've been working for over an hour trying to figure out what /dev/ device his sd card is, this will go nowhere
[08:30] <ejv> ohs: type 'nautilus %'
[08:30] <ejv> s/%/&/
[08:30] <ohs> MestreLion: it is not there
[08:30] <MestreLion> TylerW: you say VMWare is not even assigning the SD card a /dev/sdx device ???
[08:31] <MestreLion> man, than his trouble is indeed deeper
[08:31] <TylerW> mestrelion: it is... but Im having trouble helping him figure out which one it is
[08:31] <TylerW> ohs: we've been over this... you need to mount it because as we found out in #vmware it doesn't get mounted automatically if its an sd card
[08:31] <MestreLion> TylerW: dmesg | grep usb
[08:31] <TylerW> thats the difference between hardware and virtualization
[08:31] <bennyp> sorry about the flaky connection
[08:31] <TylerW> ohs: dmesg | grep usb
[08:31] <bennyp> did i miss anything?
[08:32] <TylerW> it won't be picked up as usb because its an sdcard
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: true, that is not the same thing... but it would save a couple GB's
[08:32] <TylerW> so dmesg | grep usb will return nothing
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: 800MB LiveCD, 2GB casper, and * for /data
[08:32] <ejv> dmesg is a poor way to locate devices
[08:32] <ejv> why are you guys telling him that
[08:32] <bennyp> right, I wanted to know if i could 'roll my own' livecd from a full install
[08:32] <ejv> use lshw
[08:32] <TylerW> cat /proc/partitions
[08:32] <MestreLion> bennyp: check uck , Ubuntu Customization Kit
[08:33] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions
[08:33] <ohs> major minor  #blocks  name
[08:33] <ohs>    8        0   12582912 sda
[08:33] <ohs>    8        1   12002304 sda1
[08:33] <ohs>    8        2          1 sda2
[08:33] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <MestreLion> bennyp: it's a helpful tool for that
[08:33] <ohs>    8        5     577536 sda5
[08:33] <MestreLion> ejv: true, sorry
[08:33] <bennyp> MestreLion: ok i'll look into it… i'm charging the client for labour so it might not be worth their time
[08:33] <vipintruder> ejv: one moment please...
[08:33] <ejv> let's just rename this channel to #ohs clearly it's his
[08:33] <TylerW> lmao
[08:33] <TylerW> Ive given up, I tried helping for hours
[08:33] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# cat /proc/partitions
[08:33] <ohs> major minor  #blocks  name
[08:33] <ohs>  8        0   12582912 sda
[08:33] <ohs>    8        1   12002304 sda1
[08:33] <ohs>    8        2          1 sda2
[08:33] <ohs>    8        5     577536 sda5
[08:33] <FloodBot1> ohs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <afidegnum> hello good morningall,
[08:34] <MestreLion> bennyp: is this just a way for them to "try out Ubuntu with persistence"... permanentely?
[08:34] <ejv> vipintruder: there are no, "NOPASSWD" entries, if that's what you're looking for, it looks "normal" to me
[08:34] <afidegnum> is anyone familiar with Zentyal ?
[08:34] <bennyp> MestreLion: no this is meant to be their day to day OS on the machine
[08:34] <afidegnum> I am stucked somewhere and I need your assistance.
[08:34] <MestreLion> ohs: use a pastebin dude
[08:34] <bennyp> the hard drive is totalled, so i offered this solution
[08:34] <ohs> ok
[08:34] <ejv> ohs: apt-get install pastebinit
[08:34] <afidegnum> I want to install Zentyal remotely via ssh but I need ur help
[08:34] <ejv> then you can pipe to pastebinit ont he command line
[08:34] <MestreLion> bennyp: and what's wrong with an hdd install? :P
[08:34] <ejv> cat /proc/partitions | pastebinit
[08:35] <bennyp> MestreLion: they don't have an hdd :D :D :D
[08:35] <TylerW> long story short... it does not appear to be connected to the VM
[08:35] <bennyp> plus, this is wicked cool
[08:35] <ohs> this is the output when I typed the commands http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj
[08:35] <ejv> while you're at it, apt-get install lshw, then man lshw, learn how to use it
[08:35] <MestreLion> bennyp: and what are they using??? An Android phone? :P
[08:35] <ohs> the SD card is 4 GB
[08:36] <bennyp> toshiba nb 205
[08:36] <bennyp> the old hdd has 900+ bad sectors
[08:36] <MestreLion> bennyp: I've used this solution for my mother, when her HDD crashed... but, seriously, this is a 1-month situation, tops.. until they get a new HDD... an 8GB flash is not enough for longer use
[08:36] <TylerW> xit
[08:36] <TylerW> oops
[08:37] <bennyp> MestreLion: they only use it for browsing and email
[08:37] <bennyp> and the occasional doc
[08:37] <vipintruder> ejv:I think, you must to add your user to the sudoers file, for exaple: youruser    ALL=(ALL) ALL under root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:37] <ejv> vipintruder: it should only be necessary to place the user in the proper group, then they inherit the privilege
[08:37] <bennyp> ok time for class
[08:37] <bennyp> thanks again for the help
[08:38] <MestreLion> bennyp: it is still not enough, considering they may download music, videos, etc.. even browser cache can be an issue later
[08:38] <ejv> does someone, in one line, want to some up exactly what he was trying to do? im lost.
[08:39] <ohs> I would be glad if anyone can tell me how can I find the SD card that is insterted. the outputs are here http://pastebin.com/c3GxmwMj
[08:39] <ohs> what command should I type?
[08:39] <ohs> how can I find it?
[08:39] <MestreLion> ejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu
[08:39] <player> hey, guys I really like the default font of the ubuntu 11.10, but I want to make a change, do you know how to change the default font of 11.10?
[08:39] <ejv> weird...
[08:39] <ejv> ohs: i already suggested lshw
[08:39] <ohs> I would appreciate for all advises
[08:39] <bennyp> i hear
[08:39] <ejv> ohs: lshw | pastebinit
[08:39] <karthick87> How to move all files and folders from one folder to another folder via terminal ?
[08:40] <MestreLion> karthick87: recursively?
[08:40] <ejv> karthick87: mv
[08:41] <MestreLion> karthick87: if there are no subfolders, simply use mv somedir/* anotherdir
[08:41] <ejv> recursively? recursion does not apply to the mv operation.
[08:41] <ejv> it's implied behavior.
[08:41] <ejv> you can't toggle something like that.
[08:41] <weeezes> I'm planing on buying a new graphics card, since Diablo 3 is relased soon. I'm happy using the Intel HD3000 with ubuntu, since I don't do any gaming with this. I'd use the Windows install only for playing. Is it possible to disble Ubuntu from using the new graphics card, maybe by just not installing any new drivers? Does it stick with the old graphics card then?
[08:42] <MestreLion> ejv: you can't move trees using mv either ejv
[08:42] <ejv> MestreLion: clarify
[08:43] <ohs> ejv: the output is here http://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex   but the whole output can not be seen because of the terminal character limitation
[08:43] <ejv> ohs: did you use pastebinit?
[08:43] <MestreLion> ejv: mv some/very/long/path/to/file anotherdir  will not work
[08:43] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/kTqyFzex
[08:43] <ohs> yes here
[08:43] <ejv> sigh
[08:44] <ejv> ohs: lshw -class storage | pastebinit
[08:44] <karthick87> MestreLion: Yes recursively
[08:44] <ejv> MestreLion: yes you can, I do it all the time. what version of the GNU toolchain are you using? lol
[08:45] <ejv> karthick87: man mv, it's all explained there
[08:45] <ohs> ejv: I typed ät http://pastebin.com/7z9Zg7Sf
[08:45] <ohs> it
[08:45] <MestreLion> ejv: will it mv file to anotherdir/file or anotherdir/very/long/path/to/file  ?
[08:46] <MestreLion> ohs: don't manually copy and paste to pastebin... use the bastebinit command as ejv suggested
[08:46] <MestreLion> pastebinit *
[08:46] <ejv> he did the second time
[08:46] <ohs> ok sorry I did not know
[08:46] <ohs> what it is
[08:46] <ejv> and it's not the output i was hoping for heh
[08:46] <MestreLion> ejv: he didn't, you can still see the command evocation
[08:47] <ejv> isn't that automatically prepended to the dump
[08:47] <MestreLion> ejv: nope... just the output itself
[08:47] <ejv> the result the second time is short
[08:47] <ejv> in any case, i don't see it
[08:48] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/drw8Ydk5
[08:48] <ohs> I did it correct this time
[08:48] <ejv> yea i don't see the device listed, what exactly is it?
[08:48] <ejv> brand, model, etc.
[08:49] <ohs> microSD HC 4GB Kingston SDC4/4GB
[08:49] <ohs> they are the things written on it
[08:50] <ejv> lspci -k | pastebinit
[08:50] <Defusal> good day everyone
[08:50] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/UemUHDQL
[08:51] <MestreLion> ejv: i'm trying lshw here... but it does not map controllers to the assigned /dev/sdX devices
[08:54] <ejv> mine does
[08:54] <Rookie407> can anyone tell me why i keep getting bash: permissions denied when i try to open android sdk and what it means?
[08:54] <Tm_T> Rookie407: the binary hasn't been set to be executable?
[08:54] <ejv> lshw provides everything, physical id, vendor, bus info, logical name, etc.
[08:55] <MestreLion> ohs: I have an idea... do you have Disk Utility installed? It will show all available storage devices, regardless if they are mounted or not
[08:55] <Rookie407> thats if i do a drag and drop of the file into the terminal if i try to type it and execute i get no such file or directory
[08:55] <Tm_T> Rookie407: chmod +x filename (where filename is the binary you are trying to run)
[08:55] <ejv> ohs: change the class
[08:55] <ohs> MestreLion: no, I installed the ubuntu 3 days ago
[08:55] <ejv> ohs: change the class to volume detection
[08:55] <MestreLion> ohs: install disk utility then
[08:56] <ejv> ohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit
[08:56] <Tm_T> Rookie407: when you are in the folder, "./filename" to execute it?
[08:56] <ejv> it should surface
[08:56] <Rookie407> Tm_T, it says chmod cannot access 'android': no such file or directory
[08:57] <ejv> ohs: sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit
[08:57] <Tm_T> Rookie407: you are not in the folder where the file is?
[08:57] <ejv> add disk there too
[08:57] <ohs> ejv: root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume | pastebinit
[08:57] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/9x5bzhAq
[08:57] <ejv> i edited the command, one more time buddy
[08:57] <ohs> oh sorry
[08:57] <shenra> hey guys.  i think i want to try out ubuntu but im not sure...
[08:57] <ohs> root@ubuntu:~/Desktop# sudo lshw -class storage -class volume -class disk | pastebinit
[08:57] <ohs> http://pastebin.com/9BYwW79g
[08:58] <ejv> shenra: flip a coin. heads yes, tails no.
[08:58] <shenra> have no coin ... i guess there is no answer
[08:58] <shenra> lol
[08:58] <ejv> do you have any object around you capable of a binary result?
[08:58] <shenra> its been a while since i tried ubuntu.
[08:59] <ejv> ohs: that's better, but i don't see anything besides your optical drives and primary disk
[08:59] <Rookie407> yeah this is confusing the hell outta me
[08:59] <ejv> ohs: this makes me wonder if your kernel doesn't have the proper support for this kingston SD card
[08:59] <Rookie407> not it wont let me get past the /home folder
[08:59] <ejv> or perhaps your SD card backplane isn't identified and/or supported
[09:00] <ejv> might be bugzilla worthy, *shrug*
[09:00] <MestreLion> ejv: we are not even sure if vmware is properly exposing the card, or HOW it is doing so
[09:01] <ejv> ahhh
[09:01] <ejv> yea that's a windows or vmware problem, not an ubuntu problem
[09:01] <Rookie407> Tm_T, thank you for your help after i finally figured out how to even get to the right folder typing ./(filename) worked =)
[09:02] <ejv> here i thought we were running vmware on a linux host
[09:02] <MestreLion> ejv ohs: SD cards are pretty standard, regardless of manufacturer... it's all about the card READER, which are usually USB/PCI internally
[09:02] <ohs> ejv: I get the SD card with a TI product, normally it should be working fine I guess I never seen any notice about it. this is the printscreen of my wmware http://i42.tinypic.com/2h6c36s.jpg
[09:02] <Rookie407> i been trying to figure this out for hours
[09:02] <shenra> hey guys what is a freenode channel with admins? i want to report someone to the server admins
[09:02] <MestreLion> [05:39]<MestreLion> ejv: he's using VMware in a windows 7 host and Ubuntu client vm. He wants his SD-card to be (auto-monted) in Ubuntu
[09:03] <ejv> shenra, chances are someone beat you to it, just /ignore them
[09:03] <ejv> MestreLion: right, didn't see that
[09:03] <ejv> ohs: this might sound... archaic, but why not use filezilla or any other SFTP client, and copy your files INTO your VM?
[09:04] <ejv> setup openssh-server on your VM, find out it's IP via ifconfig, and you're on your merry way
[09:04] <RealKillaz> Gents what happened to the sun-java6-jdk package?
[09:04] <ohs> I need to load an image to the SD card from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
[09:04] <ejv> im sorry im out of ideas here lol
[09:05] <ohs> it gives instructions how to do it for linux
[09:05] <RealKillaz> I tried to add the archive.canonical.com in the sources lists
[09:05] <shenra> RealKillaz, it got replaced with openjdk i believe but there is a tutorial on how to do it.
[09:05] <RealKillaz> but still it is not there
[09:05] <ohs> that"s why I am trying to mount the SD card to ubuntu, then I will load the image
[09:05] <MestreLion> ohs: the more commands you paste, the more i'm sure this is a vmware issue... i mean... there's no device besides the ubuntu partions... it is not a matter of mounting, the SD card *device* is non-existant
[09:05] <shenra> RealKillaz, what do you mean still not there? were you able to install it?
[09:06] <ejv> yea this isn't an ubuntu problem, ubuntu only knows the resources that the Hypervisor "reports" to it
[09:06] <RealKillaz> shenra: I'n my previous installation of ubuntu 10.04 LTS I could
[09:06] <ejv> in this case an issue with VMware
[09:06] <ejv> honestly, dump vmware, and use virtualbox instead, much ebtter
[09:06] <MestreLion> ohs: vmware is not reporting the SD card to Ubuntu
[09:06] <ejv> s/ebtter/better/
[09:06] <RealKillaz> shenra: now suddenly the same ubuntu 10.04 LTS the package is gone
[09:07] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Oracle terminated Java's binary agreement
[09:07] <damo22> ejv: what makes virtualbox better than vmware?
[09:07] <shenra> RealKillaz, follow http://www.gaggl.com/2011/10/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[09:07] <RealKillaz> why didn't they leave it and remove it in the next LTS version?
[09:07] <MestreLion> damo22: it properly exposes SD cards in windows hosts to ubuntu vm's
[09:07] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: ask Oracle
[09:07] <ohs> ejv, MestreLion: thank you very very much for your help and time, I will download virtual box
[09:08] <damo22> is that it?
[09:08] <ejv> ohs, i've used vbox on both windows and ubuntu hosts, works great, and it's free-er than vmware
[09:08] <karim_> you known a soft equal to internet download manager in ubuntu please help me
[09:08] <MestreLion> ohs: maybe vmware CAN do that, and it's just a matter of properly setting it up... but, as Ubuntu is concerned, your card does not exist at all... vmware must expost it
[09:08] <ejv> 10 bucks says vbox nails it on the first try
[09:08] <ejv> ;)
[09:08] <MestreLion> ejv: i rase to 20 ;)
[09:08] <MestreLion> raise*
[09:09] <ejv> you're supposed to disagree wtih me
[09:09] <damo22> i thought 3d support is more complete in vmware
[09:09] <ejv> we can't agree lol
[09:09] <RealKillaz> MestreLion: what has the package in an OS has to do with Oracle? Ubuntu should just put it there let me decide if I would like to use it or not... or am I seeing it wrong?
[09:09] <MestreLion> ejv: nope, i'm a big fan of VirtualBox... never used vmware before
[09:09] <shenra> 3d support in vmware ended up working instantly in one of their updates for me
[09:09] <ejv> i used to work in an esx environment
[09:09] <MestreLion> ejv: and not willing to since it looks so painful to set up ;)
[09:10] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Ubuntu is not ALLOWED to do so anymore
[09:10] <ejv> enterprise environments use it because of SLA :)
[09:10] <damo22> i will change to virtual box if i can make it boot from usb stick
[09:10] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: Oracle terminated it's java license that allowed Ubuntu to host binary java files
[09:11] <ejv> how about you do your homework, and check vbox trac, before jumping in? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Bugtracker
[09:11] <MestreLion> damo22: so change... VB do that
[09:12] <damo22> how?
[09:12] <MestreLion> RealKillaz: a "package in an OS" has *everything* do do with it if the distro is not allowed to host java binaries anymore
[09:12] <shenra> MastreLion... thats kind of funny they do claim to support the open source idea but then completely say on their website that they will use opensource developments and add their own "propietary" stuff to finalize java7
[09:13] <MestreLion> shenra: "they" who?
[09:13] <shenra> oracle
[09:13] <shenra> i was reading different things about their involvment with openjdk
[09:13] <MestreLion> and you believed their press releases about supporting FOSS ?
[09:13] <ejv> this is getting rather offtopic, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wanna keep discussing it
[09:15] <MestreLion> shenra: until Oracle actually publishes OpenJDK as the RI, true "support" is a joke
[09:15] <RealKillaz> MestreLion: ok
[09:15] <MestreLion> but I agree with ejv , this is off-tipoc
[09:15] <MestreLion> bottom line is: Ubuntu was forced by Oracle to remove java binaries from repos
[09:16] <MestreLion> because Oracle terminated the license that allowed it
[09:16] <COTOHA> ÊÓ
[09:16] <MestreLion> Ubuntu *could* still host old versions, but security serious flaws were discovered in them
[09:17] <st1> how can I update manual for a utility?
[09:17] <MestreLion> and thus it was decided to remove the package, new and older versions
[09:18] <MestreLion> so, for java in Ubuntu, use either the default and recommended OpenJDK , or download and install from Oracle website yourself
[09:19] <st1> that's odd, after I used two new option in rtcwake, those two appears in man page
[09:20] <shenra> hey whats the best way to transfer over 40 GB of data from windows to Ubuntu by completely replacing windows?
[09:21] <SadPanda> shenra: Are you saying you have data on your windows system that you want to migrate to linux?
[09:21] <shenra> yes.
[09:21] <SadPanda> Back it up, install linux, copy it over.
[09:22] <shenra> i have nothing to back it up to its that big... the biggest storage device i have is 4GB usb
[09:22] <Nepherius> you could use some online storage
[09:23] <SadPanda> shenra: Either online storage as Nepherius suggested, or you'd have to shrink the windows partition, install linux on the free space, copy over your windows data, then repartition the rest of the drive.  But, you should backup before doing that.  :)
[09:23] <MestreLion> SadPanda: install ubuntu, reboot, you will be able to copy files over... then delete windows partition ;)
[09:23] <min_> всем привет!
[09:24] <shenra> ive done that before but the resize took like over an hour.
[09:24] <SadPanda> MestreLion: Isn't that what I just said?
[09:24] <MestreLion> shenra: for big hdds, that's the time it takes really
[09:24] <SadPanda> shenra: There really isn't a magical solution to do it instantly and 100% safely.
[09:24] <MestreLion> SadPanda: in a nutshell, yes
[09:25] <SadPanda> MestreLion: I'm curious, why tell me then?  lol
[09:25] <MestreLion> shenra: how large is your hdd ?
[09:25] <shenra> 500 GB
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> loose the windows
[09:26] <MestreLion> shenra: assuming your partitition is almost full, 1h for copying and resizng and everything is quite fast...
[09:26] <Znow> my top bar wont show, how can I get it to show static, like in the older versions of ubuntu?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you mean like gnome?
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: yeah I guess
[09:27] <MestreLion> ServerSage: actually, there is... it's called "use a data partiton in windows instead of saving everything to C:\users"  :P
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> Znow: unity is now default, there's only left side bar
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: its so crappy, really
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !unity
[09:27] <Znow> lotuspsychje: cant find the settings I need anymore
[09:28] <Nepherius> on login window you can choose gnome classic
[09:28] <Znow> !notunity
[09:28] <MestreLion> Znow: there are other great distros out there if you don't like Unity
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you could try install gnome-shell or lubuntu
[09:28] <Znow> Nepherius: can I? nice, 2 sec
[09:28] <ServerSage> MestreLion: That is something you'd have to do from the start.  I was referring to the original question.
[09:28] <Znow> MestreLion: Erhh okay, I like ubuntu, not unity
[09:28] <MestreLion> people complain so heavily about Unity as if anyone was forcing them to use it
[09:29] <MestreLion> Znow: Use Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, still lots of choices in the Ubuntu family
[09:29] <fidel> MestreLion: i guess several ppl dont even know they arent forced to use it ;)
[09:29] <fidel> consider that as well hehe
[09:29] <Znow> MestreLion: no thanks, ill use ubuntu...
[09:29] <shenra> thats been what i siad, people forget that you can "chage" the look-n-feel of linux :/
[09:29] <llutz_> there are dozens of windowmanager/DEs available, why should one use a different distro just because one dislike unity?
[09:29] <MestreLion> ServerSage: true, but that is not Ubuntu's fault
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Znow: once u learn to know unity its very easy
[09:30] <thevinci>  how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu server?  I need my broadcom wireless driver to work
[09:30] <ServerSage> MestreLion: Never said or implied it was.  :/
[09:30] <Znow> Nepherius: I can choose Ubuntu 2d, nothing else
[09:30] <Znow> lotuspsychje: probably, but I cant seem to find the advanced settings....
[09:30] <Nepherius> strange, I'm sure i had the option to choose gnome classic :)
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Znow: what do you need?
[09:31] <Znow> lotuspsychje: the advanced settings... for the system... that I could find in the top bar
[09:31] <thevinci> anyone?
[09:31] <thevinci>  how do i install third party drivers from the command line in ubuntu  server? I need my broadcom wireless driver to work
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you can find it all in the ubuntu icon left upper corner
[09:32] <Znow> lotuspsychje: well, I still want my top bar.... not the fancy Unity stuff
[09:32] <Nepherius> unity is a lot better than gnome :)
[09:32] <MestreLion> thevinci: does it need to be crom command line?
[09:33] <Nepherius> just install gnome as someone suggested
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | Znow
[09:33] <Znow> And now when Ive isntalled Samba, and want to run it, it starts but then shuts down?
[09:33] <Znow> lotuspsychje: ive installed that
[09:33] <MestreLion> "run" samba? samba is a service, not an app
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Znow: you can tweak some settings on the unity plugin there
[09:33] <Rookie407> is it possible to partition a hardrive with say partition magic then move all the files from the drive i have now with the linux /home and what not on it to said parted drive and it still work proporly or would i have to reinstall linux?
[09:34] <Znow> MestreLion: errh it appears as a app....
[09:34] <MestreLion> Znow: you mean system-config-samba ?
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> !spam
[09:35] <Znow> MestreLion: probably.. its just called Samba - anyhow, do I need a static ip address for my ubuntu vm, for windows to map a network drive?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> hmmm where to report a spam
[09:35] <Nepherius> !maps
[09:35] <Rookie407> anyone?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops
[09:35] <MestreLion> Rookie407: you can, but i suggest using gparted / dd for that
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> tnx jordan
[09:35] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: You're welcome.
[09:35] <Znow> "Share files over the netwrork" - "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system" ......
[09:35] <Znow> wtf
[09:36] <Rookie407> k and is there any files that are a NEED to stay on the original drive linux was installed to?
[09:36] <MestreLion> Rookie407: check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47209
[09:36] <MestreLion> Znow: so install the required packages
[09:36] <MestreLion> Znow: samba is not installed by default, thanks god :P
[09:36] <Znow> MestreLion: which are?! dont know their names
[09:37] <MestreLion> Znow: doesn't it present a "do it" button for that?
[09:37] <akashm1990> I'm running Ubuntu on a laptop. The System monitor shows CPU usage in excess of 50% on idle, but the processes tab shows about 20-30% at max. How can I find out where the excess is going? Graph: http://snag.gy/IQlh5.jpg process manager:http://snag.gy/84Lbw.jpg
[09:38] <MestreLion> Rookie407: don't you want to clone the old hdd to the new one?
[09:39] <MestreLion> Znow: you can install Samba using the Software Manager... but IIRC this install is auto-triggered when you try to share folders
[09:39] <shenra> Okay another question... can Ubuntu easily share a printer on a network with a Windows netbook?
[09:40] <MestreLion> Nepherius: GoogleEarth is (at least was) not Qt, but embedded wine
[09:41] <MestreLion> shenra: yes, and it usually finds and installs the available network printers much easier than windows
[09:43] <shenra> ok... i have anoter windows machine that im going to just put ubuntu on later.
[09:46] <MestreLion> shenra: just make sure Samba is installed in both and you'll be fine
[09:46] <blizzkid> Barzogh:
[09:48] <llutz_> shenra: theres no need for samba to share printers. just configure cups to be accessible from network and add your printer in windows as network-printer, using "http://yourlinuxmachine:631/printers/yourprintername
[09:51] <thevinci> MestreLion: i don't know what crom command line is
[09:51] <MestreLion> crom or cron?
[09:52] <thevinci> I've just installed ubuntu server on my old laptop and want to hook it up to my wireless internet, but i need the broadcom driver
[09:52] <thevinci> whatever you said before...
[09:52] <thevinci> I'm just using the command line that ubuntu server starts in\
[09:52] <MestreLion> thevinci: it was a typo... crom = from*
[09:53] <thevinci> ahh!
[09:53] <thevinci> haha
[09:53] <thevinci> yes
[09:53] <thevinci> it should be from command line, i haven't installed a GUI for my server
[09:53] <thevinci> would rather not
[09:53] <MestreLion> thevinci: i have no idea... maybe jockey has a command line?
[09:54] <MestreLion> thevinci: jockey is the app that installs proprietary drivers easily and pain-free... check to see if there is a similar command-line tool for that
[09:55] <MestreLion> thevinci: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22118
[09:55] <WanderingEnder> What's the generally accepted method for a headless Ubuntu Desktop?
[09:55] <WanderingEnder> VNC or NX? Clients would be Windows 7.
[09:56] <Dudir> NX is a lot faster
[09:57] <Aciid> NX
[09:57] <fowl> Can someone please help, I want to add to menu.lst but I don't have one.. I have some crazy grub.cfg that's a shell script
[09:57] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: rcp is also an option
[09:57] <jrib> !grub | fowl
[09:58] <WanderingEnder> !rcp
[09:58] <WanderingEnder> (Not familiar with RCP. Is that Windows Remote Desktop Connection?)
[09:58] <MestreLion> are people still struggling with grub1's menu.lst after almost 3 years of grub2 adoptance ?
[09:58] <MestreLion> yes WanderingEnder... there are servers for Ubuntu
[09:58] <fowl> jrib: thanks
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Do they work well, MestreLion?
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Last time I tried one, it was RDP to VNC and slow as sin.
[09:59] <WanderingEnder> Sin is not very fast, you see.
[09:59] <fowl> MestreLion: im going to downgrade when i get the chance
[09:59] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: it is not a native unix technology, but yes, works quite well...
[10:00] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: and if your main concern is access from windows clients, well... they all have remote desktop out-of-the-box
[10:00] <WanderingEnder> Do you have a suggestion for a RDP server in Ubuntu repo?
[10:00] <Dudir> xrdp
[10:00] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: i use xrdp
[10:00] <WanderingEnder> Looking at xrdp, then. Thanks.
[10:01] <Dudir> and you could use X11rdp if you don want it to use vnc
[10:01] <MestreLion> fowl: and go back to manually adding OSes instead of auto-scanning? Good luck :P
[10:01] <WanderingEnder> When I used xdrp before, it was kinda slow to refresh, and #Ubuntu blamed it on the VNC.
[10:03] <fowl> MestreLion: yes, because now i'd like to add to the list and instead of being able to just edit it i have to do some crazy stuff
[10:03] <Dudir> I found it sluggish as well. I tried it with X11rdp, but haven't done proper testing to see if it was much faster
[10:03] <Dudir> The only machines I use to remotely connect with have nx clients installed, so was to lazy to try :p
[10:04] <MestreLion> WanderingEnder: as I've said, it is not native unix protocol, so it lacks some of the more recent RDPv6 (or v5?) features
[10:04] <WanderingEnder> Actually, I may just use a KVM.
[10:05] <MestreLion> fowl: add what? update-grub already scans all drives for you
[10:06] <MestreLion> fowl: you can always disable probing by chmod +x the probing scripts
[10:06] <llutz_> fowl: generate a 40_costom once and you'll be fine with grub2
[10:06] <llutz_> 40_custom*
[10:06] <MestreLion> fowl: you can even disable them all and use 40_custom of your own, manually, just like old grub times :P
[10:07] <fowl> man what a pain in the ass
[10:07] <llutz_> fowl: just call it grub2
[10:08] <MestreLion> fowl: editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom in grub2 is just like editing /boot/gtub/menu.lst, I fail to see why is that harder
[10:09] <warddr> Hello, I am looking for a very well supported usb wireless adapter, anyone any advise?
[10:10] <MestreLion> warddr: Antheros chipsets have a very good out-of-the-box support
[10:10] <MestreLion> Atheros*
[10:10] <MestreLion> while most broadcom ones require proprietary firmware
[10:13] <Jordan_U> !hcl | warddr
[10:13] <Jordan_U> warddr: Also, while there are well supported USB wireless dongles, an internal wireless card is a much better bet if it's an option.
[10:14] <MestreLion> that's true... much more stable and better range than dongles.. perhaps faster too
[10:14] <warddr> jordan, I have one in my notebook, but for some reason if I close my notebook (don't go in standby) the connection is lost, and I have to reboot before I can make a connection again
[10:15] <Jordan_U> warddr: Have you filed a bug report about this?
[10:15] <warddr> no
[10:16] <Jordan_U> warddr: Please do.
[10:16] <Jordan_U> !bug | warddr
[10:16] <warddr> It is a RTL8188CE , but I have to do some tests on windows to see if it's hardware or software
[10:17] <tozzi> Wow, so many people
[10:17] <tozzi> :>
[10:18] <tofugoat> morning
[10:18] <warddr> It's a known problem appearantly:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=132997
[10:18] <livtyler> "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-L 10000:<IP_ADDRESS>:22 -g" keeps me just listening in <IP_ADDRESS> and not globally like it should
[10:18] <livtyler> any hints on this?
[10:19] <josep> hello
[10:19] <tofugoat> i have a silly question, i am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?
[10:20] <_nik2909> hello guys, how can i blacklist a compiled-in linux driver?
[10:20] <monohedron> tofugoat, what is the question
[10:20] <livtyler> !blacklist
[10:20] <tofugoat> i am installing ubuntu and the installer has detected a mounted partition....i wasnt aware i had one and so shall i say yay or nay?
[10:21] <_nik2909> yeah, but its not a module
[10:21] <monohedron> what question is the installer asking
[10:21] <livtyler> _nik2909: a driver is a module
[10:22] <_nik2909> but its compiled into the kernel by me
[10:22] <[Si]> livtyler try ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-L *:10000:<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:22] <tofugoat> ...has detected the following disc has a mounted particion dev sda dev sdc, do you want the installer to try to unmount....
[10:22] <[Si]> livtyler :22 at the end
[10:22] <tofugoat> (gosh i feel so silly asking such a  basic thing)
[10:23] <bdi> Is it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?
[10:23] <livtyler> tofugoat: is it a laptop netbook?, make sure it is not its recovery partition
[10:24] <shansoldmac> anyone know how to get dial up working?
[10:24] <monohedron> or any other partition you want to keep
[10:24] <monohedron> even if you unmount them you don't HAVE to use them, thats up to you in the next step
[10:24] <tofugoat> livtyler, yes its a laptop, and i see, aha, a recovery partition. hm, well, i had not ever noticed that there is one.
[10:25] <tofugoat> so if i say leave partition mounted, will it still all work?
[10:25] <monohedron> it just means they become available for you to mess with
[10:25] <monohedron> tofugoat, it's not that simple. it also depends whether and where you install your bootloader but the partitions will be spared
[10:26] <tofugoat> oh no :o difficulties!!!
[10:26] <warddr> Jordan_U, I'm going to try to compile the newest driver myself, and give that a try. If that works I can immediately provide a solution in the bug report I'll create :D
[10:27] <diverdude> Is it possible to see what process is occupying  the connected USB device?
[10:27] <_nik2909> livtyler: i compiled a custom kernel and included a driver into it (not as a module), now how can i prevent this driver from beeing loaded ?
[10:27] <shansoldmac> diverdude: yes
[10:27] <tofugoat> and if i leave ubuntu on the stick, boot from there, can i still install compiz and all that?
[10:28] <shansoldmac> diverdude: there is a command... I think the cli will hint at it when you try to umount it
[10:28] <monohedron> well at least for the ongoing session
[10:28] <monohedron> it may not be persistent though
[10:28] <diverdude> shansoldmac: its because i have a camera connected, and when i run a program to use the camera it says the device is already in use
[10:29] <mydogsnameisrudy> tofugoat: what is it that your trying to do ? dual boot?
[10:29] <diverdude> shansoldmac: its connected via usb
[10:29] <tofugoat> mydog yes
[10:29] <diverdude> shansoldmac: but i have no idea what process is occupying
[10:29] <mydogsnameisrudy> and it has windows on it?
[10:29] <llutz_> diverdude: lsof /dev/whatever
[10:29] <shansoldmac> diverdude: mayne it's mounted as a mass storage device?
[10:29] <shansoldmac> *maybe
[10:29] <tofugoat> mydog, yes it has. and ubuntu recognises all and everything. its w7
[10:30] <mydogsnameisrudy> ok you need to go into windows 7 see how many partitions it has now ... if there are 4 you will need to remove one of them . but becareful what you do there
[10:30] <monohedron> tofugoat, then you shouldn't have any issues assuming you have free space on the disk
[10:31] <livtyler> _nik2909: if it's compiled into the kernel there's not much to do, try sysctl -a | grep your_driver_name, if it shows something, then you can use sysctl.conf
[10:31] <monohedron> ubuntu will during the installation probe for other OS and add them to the bootloader
[10:31] <_nik2909> livtyler: i allready tried that, there are no parameters for the driver (r8169)
[10:32] <tofugoat> plenty of space on the harddrive, i wasnt aware there are partitions, so i will go and check deeper then see whats what , maybe use wobi?
[10:32] <_nik2909> livtyler: so i have to recompile the kernel :(
[10:32] <monohedron> if you have the space or can make it just install ubuntu and you are good
[10:32] <tofugoat> aha monohedron. but as i said it asks if i want to unmount the partition (the one i didnt know i had, )
[10:33] <livtyler> _nik2909: you can try a very basic modprobe -r in rc.local and then modprobe the_new_driver
[10:33] <mydogsnameisrudy> you should google dual boot window7 and ubuntu
[10:33] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to get Steam to run, but I get the following error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:34] <Tiktalik> Any clue on what I can do to fix this?
[10:34] <tofugoat> yes, mydog, you are right, i will do that now. thanks for your help gys. :)
[10:34] <tofugoat> guys
[10:34] <mydogsnameisrudy> and dont delete any partitions untill you know what they are
[10:34] <monohedron> tofugoat, it doesn't matter where you get the free space from as long as you have it, you don't have to resize existing partition if there is still enough free space on that disk
[10:34] <tofugoat> thanks, i wont
[10:35] <_nik2909> livtyler: modprobe -r r8169 doesnt work, because the driver is not a loadable kernel module
[10:35] <tofugoat> ok monohedron.. i think i will practice on my old laptop and then if anything goes wrong i have learned something and i can just reformat. i WILL get theer
[10:35] <tofugoat> there
[10:35] <monohedron> tofugoat,  well i did a resize with no problems at all on a win7 machine
[10:35] <livtyler> _nik2909: have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661489
[10:36] <monohedron> but i can't know what the state your laptop is in
[10:36] <root> ...
[10:37] <tofugoat> true monohedron. well, i am confident i can do it, i just do some more research. thanks again
[10:37] <monohedron> tofugoat, your welcome
[10:37] <tofugoat> :-)
[10:37] <[Si]> tofugoat have fun with the old laptop :) nice to have something that you can trash while learning things :)
[10:38] <_nik2909> livtyler: it would work if I had compiled the r8169 driver as a loadable kernel module, however I compiled the driver into the kernel.
[10:39] <livtyler> _nik2909: then you know what to do next :´(
[10:39] <moska> who can tell me what is the deafult direction of mailx ?
[10:39] <llutz_> moska: direction?
[10:40] <_nik2909> livtyler: so my idea was to tell the kernel by means of a boot parameter, something like "blacklist_compiled_in_drivers = r8169" and then load another driver which is a module by modprobe
[10:40] <karamba> ban me please
[10:40] <[Si]> moska which mailx
[10:40] <moska> llutz: ~$ mail
[10:40] <moska> Non-null variable name required
[10:40] <moska> No mail for lolkamea
[10:40] <karamba> but no kick
[10:40] <moska> [Si]: heirloom-mailx
[10:41] <livtyler> _nik2909: yay, that sounds like a plan, go ahead
[10:41] <_nik2909> livtyler: there is not such boot parameter :(
[10:41] <llutz_> moska: idk what you really want to know. mail gets mail from /var/mail/user and sends mail to localhost:25
[10:42] <karamba> BAN me please but dont kick
[10:43] <livtyler> _nik2909: at grub in the kernel line I think there's disablemodules=driver1,driver2 but I don't know if it still works with grub2
[10:43] <eyveer> how to execute .sh file from other directory? current directory is ~/a/ and script is in ~/a/b/c/d/asd.sh
[10:43] <llutz_> eyveer: sh path/to/your/scrpt.sh
[10:43] <[Si]> moska what does hostname -f say?
[10:43] <_nik2909> livtyler: I'll try right now
[10:43] <eyveer> llutz_ heh so obvious ;) thanks
[10:43] <moska> llutz: i installed the getmail4, i would like to use mail to watch mail,my english is bad,sorry
[10:45] <debianer> hello everyone
[10:45] <_nik2909> livtyler: kernel still loaded the driver :( on to recompiling
[10:45] <livtyler> _nik2909: :(
[10:45] <moska> [Si]: no mail for lolkamea
[10:45] <llutz_> moska: mail -f yourmbox
[10:46] <moska> llutz: i try it
[10:46] <debianer> could i plz ask a question?
[10:46] <debianer> who can help me?
[10:46] <llutz_> !ask | debianer
[10:46] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to get steam to run
[10:46] <Tiktalik> Except it's telling me it can't find libGL.so.1
[10:47] <[Si]> moska the "Non-null variable name required" error I think is due to the host not being set. please run in a terminal hostname -f
[10:47] <Tiktalik> I get this error: err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"OPENGL32.dll": libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:47] <debianer> Is it possible to make a debian or ubuntu repository from a DVD set?
[10:48] <moska> llutz: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ mail -f .getmail/mail/new
[10:48] <moska> .getmail/mail/new: is a directory
[10:48] <llutz_> moska: iirc mailx only works with mbox, not mdir
[10:48] <karamba> FUCK linux/unix only windows!
[10:48] <_nik2909> karamba: lol
[10:49]  * shenra notices we win
[10:49] <_nik2909> livtyler: it worked, recompiled the kernel w/o the r8169 driver and now the r8168 loaded kernel module has taken over
[10:49] <Tiktalik> Hey, can someone help me with my driver problem? I'm trying to get steam to run, but it can't find libGL.so.1
[10:49] <livtyler> !yay | _nik2909
[10:50] <moska> llutz: how to fix it ?
[10:51] <llutz_> moska: read getmail4 documentation, i don't know about it. and pls answer [Si] question
[10:51] <moska> llutz: thx
[10:52] <moska> [Si]: my english is bad ,sorry
[10:52] <jorgesuarez_> I can't define an action in policykit for upstart on 10.04, can someone help me? I detail this on http://askubuntu.com/questions/115052/define-a-policykit-action-for-upstart maybe some help debugging? I don't know where to start
[10:53] <moska> [Si]: i don't configura  .mailrc
[10:53] <moska> [Si]: i don't set .mailrc
[10:53] <M1L0> hi all
[10:54] <[Si]> Tiktalik seems to be a known issue with the current steam client, if you look at the winehq page for steam there are lots of people talking about it.
[10:54] <M1L0> some people rhr?
[10:54] <[Si]> moska run hostname -f
[10:55] <M1L0> maybe some speak spqnish?
[10:55] <moska> [Si]: what does it mean 'hostname' ? my user name ?
[10:55] <seroquel> does anyone know if it is possible to change the icon that appears when you change your volume on ubuntu?
[10:56] <[Si]> in a terminal just type hostname -f
[10:57] <moska> [Si]: lolkamea@lolkamea-1011PX:~$ hostname -f
[10:57] <moska> lolkamea-1011PX
[10:57] <[Si]> moska your problem is not what I thought it was :(
[10:58] <ardian> Hello, my laptop fan is making too much noise even nothing is open, im on ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[10:59] <moska> [Si]: anyway ,thx
[11:01] <Fudge> hi, how do you kill a pid that wont die, i am root and kill -9 pid doesnt kill it
[11:02] <llutz_> Fudge: its a zombie?
[11:02] <Fudge> im not sure how to tell which pids are, there are two
[11:02] <sacarlson> Fudge: might try killall -9 procname
[11:02] <Fudge> on 1 actually
[11:02] <Fudge> its Xorg
[11:03] <Defusal> hi everyone
[11:03] <sacarlson> Fudge: oh and if it's something like network-manager it will auto restart itself from some cron or some other proc
[11:03] <Defusal> i can't get /etc/sudoers to work for allowing commands without a password, can someone please help?
[11:03] <Defusal> i followed a tutorial but it doesn't work
[11:03] <Fudge> sacarlson  its Xorg
[11:03] <Fudge> 100% cpu, having to ssh to try and fix
[11:04] <rileyp> Fudge ps -a
[11:04] <llutz_> Fudge: sudo pkill -9 X
[11:04] <karamba> !rpm-fusion
[11:05] <rileyp> Fudge: man ps
[11:05] <Fudge> llutz_  tried that, it just wont die
[11:05] <sacarlson> Defusal: this is what I found so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19236;  I can look at my own examples
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  having to use the password is not without reason, better not change or disable it
[11:06] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, i didn't ask for advice
[11:06] <Defusal> i need a script to be able to run things with super user
[11:06] <Defusal> if you have a better way, by all means let me know
[11:06] <Ben64> what are you trying to do
[11:06] <Defusal> but i do not think there is one
[11:06] <Fudge> rileyp  ps -a shows ssh screen bash but not xorg
[11:07] <geirha> How to configure sudo is more of an OS question. Definitely not bash.
[11:07] <Defusal> Ben64, i need to run various things spawned by a non-root process including useradd (super user) and spawning things as other users (non super user)
[11:08] <Defusal> as far as i know, using sudoers is the best way to do this
[11:08] <rileyp> Defusal: i need a script to be able to run things with super user  what needs to run as su
[11:08] <Ben64> Defusal: thats very unspecific
[11:08] <Fudge> rileyp  25559 tty12    00:25:16 Xorg
[11:08] <Defusal> rileyp, read up i just explained
[11:08] <Fudge> does kill pkill etc have a verbose flag?
[11:09] <Defusal> Ben64, what part do you not understand?
 Defusal: thats very unspecific
[11:09] <Defusal> i have a platform that does not run as root
[11:09] <[Si]> Fudge try stopping lightdm (sudo service lightdm stop)
[11:09] <Defusal> it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:09] <rileyp> Defusal:  why not su -c
[11:09] <Oer> Defusal, what tutorial are you following ?
[11:09] <Defusal> i cannot be any more clear
[11:09] <Ben64> why not run it with root's crontab
[11:10] <Defusal> Oer, im not sure, i did it yesterday and assumed it worked, but my sudo password was obviously cached
[11:10] <rileyp> and edit sudoers like you say on those programs so no password is required
[11:10] <Defusal> Ben64, because that is not what i need to do.
[11:10] <geirha> Defusal: We can help you with the script, but if sudo isn't working, as your OS channel.
[11:10] <Ben64> removing sudo password is a big security hole
[11:10] <Ben64> Defusal: well you aren't giving any details
[11:10] <Oer> Defusal, .. not sure .. why?
[11:10] <Defusal> rileyp, sudo -i -u should be better than sudo su -c
[11:11] <sacarlson> add a line like this to /etc/sudoers;  defusal ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[11:11] <Fudge> si it was started with startx
[11:11] <Defusal> sacarlson, i don't want to unrestrict it completely...
[11:11] <rileyp> sacarlson:  tes and put at at the bottom
[11:11] <Ben64> !details | Defusal
[11:11] <rileyp> thats a yes
[11:12] <Defusal> this is the line that does not work: admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb
[11:12] <Defusal> any ideas why?
[11:12] <keber> www.hot.ee/keber/satan.JPG
[11:12] <[Si]> Fudge does switching to the vt and doing ctrl-alt-backspace kill it?
[11:12] <ikonia> define does not work
[11:12] <mozilla92> 8-)
[11:12] <Oer> Defusal, all you need is a root-account, witch is unfortunatly disabled.
[11:13] <Fudge> si i cant use the machine
[11:13] <Ben64> root is not disabled
[11:13] <Fudge> else would control C at the console i started
[11:13] <Defusal> Ben64, i explained quite clearly my use case and told you that if you know of a better way to accomplish exactly what i said, then give it to me
[11:13] <Ben64> Defusal: you did not explain clearly at all
[11:13] <Defusal> ...
[11:14] <geirha> Defusal: Oops, sorry for confusing you, I was sure this was #bash :/  anyway, you run this script as a user named admin?
[11:14] <ikonia> Defusal: what are you trying to actually do ?
[11:14] <Defusal> yeah ok i'll go to #bash, thanks anyway
[11:14] <Fudge> perhaps I can find a Xorg pidfile to delete?
[11:14] <Defusal> ikonia: as i said twice to Ben64, i have a platform that does not run as root. it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:15] <sacarlson> defusal ALL=NOPASSWD: /home/admin/script/sudo.rb
[11:15] <Ben64> Defusal: you keep saying that, and i keep saying that is not very specific
[11:15] <Defusal> so i created a sudo script that limits what it can do, and made a sudoers exception for it
[11:15] <Defusal> but that did not work
[11:15] <livtyler> I have followed the steps to ssh without password(.ssh/authorized_keys) but it still asks me to input password, could you help me troubleshoot?
[11:15] <Defusal> come to think of it
[11:15] <ikonia> Defusal: platform that does not run as root ? is this ubuntu
[11:15] <Defusal> geirha, sudo is not bash.
[11:15] <jrib> Defusal: instead of "did not work" say exactly what you did and what the result was please
[11:15] <Defusal> jrib, it asks for the password?
[11:15] <ikonia> Defusal: are you running ubuntu
[11:16] <jrib> Defusal: this is half of what I asked :?
[11:16] <geirha> Defusal: Indeed, hence sorry for the confusion.
[11:16] <Defusal> ikonia, obviously...
[11:16] <rileyp> ikonia is on the money....
[11:16] <Defusal> why the hell would i be here otherwise
[11:16] <ikonia> Defusal: not obvious as you said "I have an paltform not run as root" which doens't say it's ubuntu
[11:16] <rileyp> well then you can run as root but its unsafe
[11:16] <geirha> Defusal: Anyway, the user that should run this script is named "admin"?
[11:16] <Defusal> goodness, i always feel like im getting harassesed in this channel
[11:16] <Fudge> maybe you guys can spell it out instead of gettin g frustrated
[11:17] <Defusal> i think its time to start using more generic linux channels
[11:17] <bazhang> Fudge, whats the issue
[11:17] <Ben64> livtyler: are you the real Liv Tyler? and often times you need to restart the ssh daemon to have the keys take effect
[11:17] <rileyp> Defusal: you are asking for it with the  "I have an paltform not run as root"
[11:17] <mozilla92> hey everybody!
[11:17] <Fudge> bazhang  with what mate?
[11:17] <Defusal> ikonia: by platform, i mean application.
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: if you ask questions clearly - people will answer clearly
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: right, so again, explaining this clearly and we'll work it out
[11:17] <ikonia> Defusal: so what's the end goal ?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> Defusal  you always want the most improbable and far-fetched things
[11:17] <Defusal> geirha: correct, the application spawning the sudo.rb script is run as user 'admin'
[11:18] <bazhang> Fudge, thought you were asking for assistance, my mistake
[11:18] <[Si]> livtyler take a look at /var/log/syslog after the login attempt, it may point at a permissions issue with the .authorized_keys file.
[11:18] <Fudge> bazhang  oh i am trying to kill ap id yes, think i may have to reboot but i dont want to
[11:18] <Defusal> MonkeyDust, that is my daily life, either help me, or leave me alone :O(
[11:18] <indistylo> Encoutntering installation error in asterisk , http://pastebin.com/iXsDND5t
[11:18] <Defusal> i have enough stuggling and time wasting as is, as i always seem to require the edge case
[11:18] <DrewMig> Hi everyone
[11:18] <Defusal> but none the less, i have to make teh best of it
[11:18] <geirha> Defusal: Ok, make sure that line is at the bottom of /etc/sudoers, below the one giving the admin group privileges to use sudo.
[11:18] <livtyler> Ben64: yes, I'm Liv Tyler, and I have restarted many times and no joy 'til now
[11:19] <Defusal> ikonia, i explained carefully at the beginning
[11:19] <geirha> Defusal: The order of the rules matter
[11:19] <livtyler> [Si]: will look into that right now
[11:19] <Fudge> bazhang  the prob is i started kde from tty4 startx after writing a .xinitrc and the Xorg pid 25559 will not die, i am having to ssh to the box as its using 100% cpu, kill -9 25559 pkill -9 X is not working, I am root #
[11:19] <Defusal> ikonia,  it needs to spawn processes both as root (to use thinks like useradd) and as other users
[11:19] <ikonia> Defusal: I've not seen that so I'm asking you to explain to me now
[11:19] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, so that will be done from within the script, how are you doing that within the script ?
[11:19] <Defusal> geirha, it is :(
[11:19] <Fudge> Defusal  are you using sudo in your script?
[11:20] <Defusal> ikonia, i am starting the script with sudo
[11:20] <Defusal> not starting sudo from the script
[11:20] <ikonia> Defusal: ok - that's just running the script as root, that's not spawning any processes, so how are you spawning processes from within the script
[11:20] <Defusal> ikonia, no
[11:20] <livtyler> [Si]: I just have pam session messages, no authorized_keys concerned lines
[11:20] <ikonia> Defusal: can we see the script ? is that acceptable ?
[11:20] <mozilla92> please advise me audio player which good works with internet radio!
[11:21] <rileyp> Defusal:  why not make root the owner of the script and let the normal user run it
[11:21] <Ben64> livtyler: you have the public key in ~/.ssh/ on the client, and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server?
[11:21] <Fudge> bazhang  ideas>
[11:21] <[Si]> livtyler just to cover the basics, you created the .ssh/authorized_keys file is on the server and it has your id_pub key in it?
[11:21] <rileyp> then it wil have root permissions
[11:22] <SuRock> Hello, world!
[11:22] <DrewMig> Hello SuRock
[11:22] <Defusal> ikonia, its a chain of scripts, some of which the command is built up very dynamically
[11:22] <livtyler> Ben64: [Si] : yes, I'm ssh'ing to localhost
[11:22] <shenra> hello SuRock
[11:22] <Defusal> ikonia, i will explain better in a second
[11:22] <mozilla92> hey
[11:22] <ikonia> Defusal: so that's probably why it's not working, it's probably calling a script "not" as root
[11:22] <ikonia> Defusal: (at a basic high level)
[11:22] <bazhang> Fudge, why not start up in recovery mode and fix the video issues first
[11:22] <Fudge> si rileyp  bazhang  basically how to kill zombie processes
[11:23] <Defusal> rileyp, because the whole point of the script is to run stuff as root and as other users.
[11:23] <Fudge> bazhang  i dont want to restart, thats all
[11:23] <[Si]> livtyler can you try ssh -v servername pastebin that :)
[11:24] <Defusal> ikonia: my application spawns the script /home/admin/script/sudo.rb either passing a command to it, or: -i -u $username "$command"
[11:24] <Defusal> that script than spawns the actual command as root or as the user
[11:24] <ikonia> Defusal: ok - so is that secondary script being called with sudo ?
[11:24] <ikonia> Defusal: if not, you'll need to call that command via sudo
[11:24] <Defusal> ikonia, the sudo.rb script is using sudo
[11:24] <Ben64> seems like a security problem
[11:25] <ikonia> Ben64: it seems like a massive problem
[11:25] <Defusal> Ben64, give me a better solution to do exactly this, or don't complain
[11:25] <bazhang> Fudge, some special reason not to log out and then log in again?
[11:25] <Ben64> if you want to let normal users have root power, go right ahead
[11:25] <ikonia> Defusal: I'd suggest first of all, running through each script with/without sudo to understand/confirm that each script works as expected in it's own
[11:25] <ikonia> Defusal: then build up to your end solution
[11:25] <Defusal> the best i can do from what i know is put the script somewhere that isnt writable and limit it to only running certain things
[11:25] <jrib> Defusal: I suggest you solve a simpler problem first: create a sudo password exception for a ruby script that just creates a file only root can create
[11:25] <Defusal> and then make the exception in sudoers for that script
[11:26] <Defusal> i don't know of any better way to do this
[11:26] <ikonia> Defusal: what is your end goal ?
[11:26] <ikonia> Defusal: as in what do you want to be able to do
[11:26] <Defusal> ikonia, can the script in sudoers call sudo, or does sudo need to be called passing that script?
[11:26] <jrib> honestly, it just sounds like you are just doing what sudo already does
[11:26] <ikonia> you can script sudo sure
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: what's the end goal though, as in "joe reset peoples passwords"
[11:27] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/7KcqQzX5
[11:27] <Defusal> ikonia, creating/changing/deleting users and running processes as those users
[11:27] <Defusal> possibly other things i have not yet thought of in future
[11:27] <Defusal> but this is what i require now
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, so why not just give that user sudo permission to the correct commands
[11:27] <ikonia> Defusal: eg: sudo useradd
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: or sudo adduser
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: why script scripts, calling scripts
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: sudo adduser james
[11:28] <Defusal> ikonia, while that would work for useradd
[11:28] <monohedron> ikonia, that sounds like user administration
[11:28] <ikonia> done
[11:28] <[Si]> livtyler can you also give a pastbin of tail -100 /var/log/auth.log
[11:28] <ikonia> monohedron: it is
[11:28] <Defusal> it would not work for dynamic commands
[11:28] <monohedron> so Defusal wouldn't want users doing it
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: can you give me an example of one ?
[11:28] <jrib> Defusal: like what?
[11:28] <Defusal> that script actually calls an inline script for running as other users
[11:28] <geirha> I'd go the route Defusal is going
[11:28] <Defusal> due to a complex workaround to do with signal detaching
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: sudo -c joe ls -la
[11:28] <Defusal> it is a complicated issue.
[11:28] <ikonia> Defusal: that will run ls -la as joe
[11:29] <Fudge> bazhang  i cant use the box, im sshd in
[11:29] <geirha> s/-c/-u/
[11:29] <Fudge> reboot the thing
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: if you insist on doing what you are doing - go through each script as a standalone unit and verify they work as expected
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: then concentrate on the wrapper
[11:29] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/AydezCB8
[11:29] <Defusal> sigh
[11:29] <Defusal> all this is just wasting my time
[11:29] <ikonia> Defusal: ?
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: then quit
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: you're getting solid help
[11:30] <Defusal> i came here with a simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> and still need a solution
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: ok, what is the simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> :|
[11:30] <Fudge> Defusal  maybe you should leave it for a whiel and think it over
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: give me the simple question you want an answer to
[11:30] <WanderingEnder> What's Defusal's simple question again?
[11:30] <Defusal> ikonia, calling that sudo.rb script does not work
[11:30] <Defusal> it asks for a password
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: that is not a simple question
[11:30] <Defusal> which means sudoers is not working
[11:30] <ikonia> Defusal: that is your mess of scripts calling scripts
[11:31] <Defusal> ffs
[11:31] <Ben64> a short question does not equal a simple one
[11:31] <ikonia> Defusal: so that's why people are asking questions to understeand
[11:31] <rileyp> defusal teach user that will peforms the task how to use sudo in a terminal.......................... done
[11:31] <Fudge> deuterium  can i just ask, when you sudo yourself, do you get asked for a password still?
[11:31] <[Si]> livtyler one last one pastebin of ls -la ~/.ssh on the server
[11:31] <Fudge> oops tabcomp :p
[11:31] <Ben64> [Si]: server is localhost :)
[11:32] <WanderingEnder> That was just a kick, and not a kickban, right?
[11:32] <Fudge> :( up 1 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.40,
[11:33] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/mMRQJwPz
[11:33] <[Si]> Ben64 :)
[11:33] <rileyp> Defusal has gone to commit himself....
[11:33] <[Si]> livtyler chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:33] <WanderingEnder> Heh. I guess that answers my question.
[11:33] <cryptotheslow> bomb defusal is always a risky business.
[11:33] <sacarlson> Defusal: sudoers can also be setup for groups of users to have password less access to groups of sudo needed commands, if needed maybe some examples http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sample.sudoers
[11:34] <Fudge> why not jsut NOPASSWD
[11:34] <aik> qq
[11:34] <aik> qw
[11:34] <aik> e
[11:34] <aik> wq
[11:34] <aik> e
[11:34] <FloodBot1> aik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <aik> wq
[11:34] <Fudge> loL
[11:34] <[Si]> he's gone people :)
[11:34] <Ben64> [Si]: my authorized_keys is 644 and works fine... i'm thinking either the key isn't in there, or sshd doesn't know about it
[11:34] <rileyp> he was kicked
[11:35] <WanderingEnder> And banned.
[11:35] <aik> CW GAME STEAM ON EAC ON SERVER OFF
[11:35] <WanderingEnder> Ben64: Your sshd isn't complaining that the world can read your authorized_keys file?
[11:35] <Ben64> nope?
[11:36] <Ben64> its in ~/.ssh/ though, where only I can read it
[11:36] <livtyler> [Si]: http://pastebin.com/A87F5Umb
[11:36] <WanderingEnder> Weird, I've only ever seen sshd flip out at any setting other than 600.
[11:36] <WanderingEnder> Is your .ssh set to 600?
[11:37] <Ben64> drwx------   3 ben64 ben64      4096 2012-03-22 04:21 .ssh
[11:42] <Fudge> :p ltr guys
[11:43] <airplanesimen> Anyone here good at PEAP network (with wpa-psk2 enterprise security) ??
[11:43] <airplanesimen> need help
[11:43] <shenra> hello
[11:43] <bazhang> airplanesimen, then ask a question
[11:43] <airplanesimen> hi
[11:43] <airplanesimen> okay
[11:43] <bazhang> !wifi | airplanesimen have a read first
[11:44] <airplanesimen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11784659#post11784659  - shortest possible, check here
[11:44] <airplanesimen> thanks!
[11:45] <airplanesimen> Nothing at that link is for my issue, sorry :/
[11:46] <WanderingEnder> Um, which is easier?
[11:46] <[Si]> livtyler does this return anything: cd ~/.ssh l grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys
[11:46] <WanderingEnder> Converting ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server or just reformatting and installing Ubuntu Minimal with server packages?
[11:47] <[Si]> livtyler sorry that should be : cd ~/.ssh ; grep `cat id_rsa.pub | cut -f2 -d" "` authorized_keys
[11:48] <airplanesimen> My wifi refuses to connect to my PEAP protected network at school (enterprise wpa-psk2). What should i do?
[11:48] <livtyler> [Si]: blank, nothing
[11:48] <shenra> is there an option to have a login screen that i can click my picture and type a password?
[11:48] <shenra> or something similar?
[11:48] <[Si]> livtyler in ~/.ssh run cat id_rsa.pub >> authorized_keys
[11:49] <airplanesimen> what linux do you have?
[11:49] <[Si]> then try again.
[11:49] <shenra> ubuntu 11.10
[11:49] <murrayc> Has something changed about locales in precise. In Oneiric, it was enough to set LANG (and LANGUAGE too) to make an app behave as per that locale. Now I notice that I have to set LC_TIME to really get the correct date formatting for en_GB.
[11:49] <airplanesimen> okay, and you are inside at your desktop? if so, click on your name at the menubar, then user-accounts or something like that
[11:50] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: seems to be supported in wpa-supplicant that is supported in ubuntu https://vtluug.org/wiki/PEAP-MSCHAP
[11:50] <chentong> i can SAY chinese
[11:50] <airplanesimen> hmm, okay, thanks! :D
[11:50] <bazhang> murrayc, #ubuntu+1 for precise
[11:50] <livtyler> [Si]: OMFG, you ARE a genius! , thank you
[11:50] <bazhang> chentong, in #ubuntu-cn
[11:50] <murrayc> bazhang: OK. Thanks.
[11:50] <chentong> en
[11:51] <[Si]> livtyler sorry should have checked the basics first :) that command added your public key to the authorized file.
[11:52] <[Si]> Ben64 you were indeed correct ;)
[11:52] <Dudir> shenra: you could try gdm
[11:52] <chentong> i need learn english
[11:52] <airplanesimen> Okay, thanks for help, but when i have entered that info in the file, and it still dont want to connect to the network, can i come back here?
[11:52] <Ben64> [Si]: :D
[11:52] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: sure why not
[11:53] <airplanesimen> okay, thanks sacarlson
[11:54] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm using ubuntu 11.10 as a iscsi initiator, but it doesn't start the iscsi session at boot, even though the target is set o node.startup = automatic - any ideas?
[11:55] <livtyler> [Si]: Ben64: thank you very much guys, good bye
[11:55] <shwaiil> hi
[11:56] <shwaiil> Q: How to create ALIAS in ubuntu ? I go to "home" but can't find .profile so, the tutorials wont work
[11:56] <shwaiil> Any tip ?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  .bashrc or .bash_profile can be used.
[11:56] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: tks i'll try :9
[11:57] <Dr_willis> shwaiil, I think the use of .profile may be a bit outdated.
[11:57] <shwaiil> Yeah I see
[11:57] <seoaqua> could anyone get the number of Y axis? http://index.baidu.com/main/word.php?word=abc
[11:57] <Dr_willis> theres alias's in some of those files allready. or make a custome alias file (mentioned in the comments of those 2 files)
[11:58] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: touch .bashrc in /home ?
[11:58] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  it should allready be there
[11:58] <Dr_willis> and its /home/yourusername
[11:58] <Madzia> 2on2 off
[11:58] <shwaiil> It's not working for me :X
[11:58] <Madzia> 2/2 off
[11:58] <Madzia> 2/2 off
[11:58] <FloodBot1> Madzia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <Klej> I cant boot my Ubuntu from USB !
[11:59] <Klej> Everything is black.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Klej,  so what does it do exatly. and how did you make the usb.
[11:59] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: its not there :T
[11:59] <Klej> I made usb with Unetbootin.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you got somthing goofy going on then. ever user should have one by default i belive.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | Klej
[11:59] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: I'm on a VPS
[12:00] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you are on your own then. sounds like they are doing weird stuff.
[12:00] <Klej> I'm using laptop
[12:00] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: found it in root
[12:00] <shwaiil> found it here /root/.bashrc :T
[12:01] <Dudir> Klej: Probably a silly question, but did u change the bios to boot from usb?
[12:01] <Klej> Yeah
[12:01] <Klej> 1st boot
[12:01] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  if you are logging in diretly as root.. that would make sence.. but thats a scary vps that forces you to use root all the time.
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Did you give it a minute or two to let the USB ISO load?
[12:01] <Klej> Yeah....5mins
[12:01] <Dudir> Klej: just making sure :p
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Dr_willis, some VPS providers just give you root and expect you to make your own users.
[12:01] <Klej> :)
[12:01] <Dr_willis> Klej,  try using the nomodeset option the bot mentioned.
[12:01] <WanderingEnder> Then, you know, stop using root.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> WanderingEnder,  makes me wonder how much 'support' this channel should give to vps's
[12:02] <Klej> Dr_willis how to use that ?
[12:02] <WanderingEnder> Dr_willis, I'd say it depends on the VPS provider. Even good ones like Linode start out with only root, they expect you to know what you're doing.
[12:02]  * shenra wonders what a vps is
[12:02] <Dr_willis> klaas,  the url the bot gave. shows you.
[12:02] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | Klej
[12:02] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages...... how to upgrade them again?
[12:02] <Klej> !nomodoset
[12:03] <airplanesimen> hi
[12:03] <Klej> it doesnt work
[12:03] <WanderingEnder> !hi | airplanesimen
[12:03] <airplanesimen> i can connect now to the network
[12:03] <Klej> !nomodoset | Klej
 Sorry, I don't know anything about nomodoset
[12:03] <WanderingEnder> Thought we had a thing for people who say hi, hmm.
[12:03] <zykotick9> shenra: Virtual Private Server
[12:04] <shenra> oh.
[12:04] <airplanesimen> so, anyone remember me 3 mins ago?
[12:04] <WanderingEnder> shenra, you know what a VPS is now, or should I type out the explination?
[12:04] <[Si]> Klej http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 is the url you need
[12:04] <airplanesimen> talking about network?
[12:04] <Tejas> Hi i install postfix in newly install ubuntu 10.04 in rackspace cloud, but got error
[12:04] <Tejas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:04] <Tejas>  postfix
[12:04] <Tejas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:04] <shenra> no thanks. i
 Klej: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[12:04] <WanderingEnder> shenra, for examplke, Tejas is a VPS user, he's using Rackspace Cloud.
[12:04] <airplanesimen> carlson?
[12:05] <ix_> it's annoying, some apps are gtk2, some are gtk3
[12:05] <Klej> it's ok but where i need to write this ?
[12:05] <ix_> how do I get 1 theme for all apps?
[12:05] <ix_> one
[12:05] <airplanesimen> i guess not .. lol
[12:05] <shenra> WanderingEnder: that stuff sounds cool...
[12:05] <[Si]> Klej scroll down that page to "How to enable kernel options on the livecd"
[12:06] <ix_> at least, how do I install gtk3 themes?
[12:06] <WanderingEnder> shenra, its just another way to run Ubuntu. Instead of on physical hardware, run it partitioned on someone else's physical hardware. I have several VPSes at work.
[12:06] <Klej> i can't see that screen when im booting....
[12:07] <airplanesimen> okay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears..
[12:07] <Dr_willis> the boot menu, has  a man=keyboard option, you hit the space there. i vbelive. I thought that url showed pictures of what to do.
[12:07] <shenra> WanderingEnder:  yeah i understand, its kinda similar to what schools do to allow access to the same liscenced programs from multiple computers, ontop of all our files
[12:07] <lifestream> Is there a web-browser that simplifies pages (kinda like printable version or mobile version, but with images)? I hate how complicated most websites look. I want to be able to set permanent background and text color without making the webpages look weird.
[12:07] <worm> Can I just startup to text mode? It is slow that every time I should get to lightdm.
[12:07] <ikonia> lifestream: browsers display what is coded, sorry
[12:08] <Dr_willis> lifestream,  ive seen some firefox and chrome extensions that can do some of that. often via greasemonkey scripts
[12:08] <airplanesimen> okay, i have connected to a PEAP network now successfully, and i am wondering why i cant access "secure http" sites on my web-browser? it only gets blank while it is working, and nothing appears.. Do i need the CA certificate?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> lifestream,  with how complex some sites are . it often dosent work well
[12:08] <Dudir> lifestream: http://www.readability.com/ does a decent job most of the times
[12:09] <WanderingEnder> airplanesimen, if someone knows the answer to your problem, they'll speak up. Repeating yourself won't assist in that.
[12:09] <lifestream> ikonia: yes but some can prevent css from taking effect.  Dr_willis you mean just set background+text color, or actually strip down the website into "printtable version"? . I'm not looking for an add-on. I want by default.
[12:09] <airplanesimen> so sorry
[12:09] <airplanesimen> :/
[12:09] <ix_> lifestream,  you can use links2, start it like links2 -g to render pictures
[12:09] <ikonia> lifestream: if you don't let css run you'll get malformatted sites
[12:09] <WanderingEnder> lI was going to suggest links2, but does that run in X, or just SVGAlib?
[12:09] <ikonia> lifestream: browsers like firefox have plugins that will allow you to alter what is parsed though
[12:10] <lifestream> With div css not in effect, most pages should show like a mobile/printable version. I tthink. I'll look into links2, didn't know it could show images.
[12:10] <Dr_willis> you could set your user agent to be that of a phone. :)
[12:11] <lifestream> I mean, do blind people use full fledged browsers, or something that shows a basic page? I would think it would be difficult for them to use normal browser.
[12:11] <Dr_willis> given how complex and unuseable many sites are on my android phone... i bet blind people have a hard time
[12:12] <WanderingEnder> They use something like JAWS that sits between the OS and them.
[12:13] <ix_> how can I change gtk3 themes?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> ix_,  the gnome-tweak tool can do that i recall.
[12:14] <Dr_willis> im on 12.04 so  i use myunity also. :)
[12:14] <Klej> Nothing.
[12:14] <Klej> Only i see is Unetbootin boot screen
[12:14] <ix_> what if I don't have unity or gnome, isn't there a generic tool like gtk-chtheme?
[12:15] <Klej> And nowhere is option NOMODOSET
[12:15] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?
[12:15] <ednolivers> hi guys. does anyone know the recommended approach to upgrading apache in 10.04 LTS?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> Klej,  unetbootin most likely sets up syslinux and SOME key combo to edit its boot items.  I dont use unetbootin so dont recall how it does it.
[12:15] <Klej> what are you using ?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> i just dd the image file straight to the iso. :)
[12:15] <Dr_willis> or to the usb i mean.
[12:15] <Klej> usb
[12:15] <Klej> but how
[12:15] <Klej> what's dd ?
[12:16] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: after trying to put a "alias foo='ls -a" in .bashrc, it doesnt work. Any other tips ?
[12:16] <WanderingEnder> Klej, what OS are you making your USB stick from?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  fresh install with separate /home partition
[12:16] <Klej> Ubuntu latest version
[12:16] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  you do realize that will only affect new shells.. or you have to 'source .bashrc' after the change?
[12:17] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: ahh thanks :D
[12:17] <ednolivers> MonkeyDust: fresh ubuntu install?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  makes sence dont it. :)
[12:17] <Dudir> Klej: Have you tried booting it on a different machine? (are you sure your stick works?)
[12:17] <WanderingEnder> Klej, you can use 'dd' to write the image directly to the media. Google knows how, not sure if the bot does. There's also the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu.
[12:17] <Klej> yeah
[12:17] <Dudir> Klej: I have had drives that were borked from the start
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  yes
[12:18] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: makes sence. works now!
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> ednolivers  sorry, you just want apache upgrade, my mistake
[12:19] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has tools other then unetbootin also.
[12:19] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: what's the meaning of "source" command ?
[12:20] <Klej> Is possible to move .iso on usb and to boot it ?
[12:20] <marscher> hi
[12:20] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  'run this script in the terminal' shortcut for source command is '.'  ie:    . .bashrc     (often seen in scripts)
[12:20] <AcidRain> Klej: yes
[12:20] <Klej> Ok.
[12:20] <marscher> i have a gnuplot script and i want to pass the input data file by argument
[12:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  you have to put it on in a special way. not just copy the iso to the flash. OR use a tool from pendrivelinux to put the iso on the usb and grub2
[12:21] <marscher> i tried gnuplot -e "FILE=`data.csv`" myscript.g
[12:21] <marscher> in the script i have:
[12:21] <marscher> mydata = "`echo $FILE`"
[12:22] <shwaiil> Dr_willis: I see :) But "." as other meanings right ? I remember using it as current dir when pushing in git, like "git add ."
[12:22] <marscher> but mydata is empty on the plot command
[12:22] <marscher> any ideas?
[12:23] <sazawal> ubuntu downgraded some of my packages, how to upgrade them?
[12:24] <vlt> !details | sazawal
[12:25] <[Si]> marscher unless you export FILE first the subshell (created by ` ` ) will not have $FILE
[12:25] <Dr_willis> shwaiil,  things always have different meanings on how they are used.
[12:25] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages
[12:25] <sazawal> i approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages
[12:25] <sazawal> now my volume-control and spund preferences are not working
[12:26] <Dr_willis> sazawal,  sounds like you may be using some extra ppa's or other repos.
[12:26] <sazawal> I cannot see pulseaudio running on my system monitor ...... though my sound iw roking
[12:26] <sazawal> yes
[12:26] <marscher> [Si], someone states here, that if you pass the value by command mode (gnuplot -e), you dont have to export it
[12:26] <marscher> https://groups.google.com/group/comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot/browse_thread/thread/b023aabe4ec4cd15?fwc=1&hl=de
[12:26] <sazawal> Dr_willis there were about 20 of the packages downgraded
[12:26] <sazawal> for example libpulse0:amd64 (0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1, 0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1)
[12:27] <sazawal> it was downgraded from x to y in (x,y)
[12:27] <airplanesimen> I have installed OpenSSH-server on my linux, to use a tunnel to my home (use it as proxy). And now i need to know how i can connect my SSH through the proxy at school?
[12:27] <[Si]> marscher but you are calling a subshell to do echo $FILE
[12:27] <Dr_willis> sazawal,  thats what can happen when you use ppa's
[12:27] <marscher> [Si], ah i see, thx
[12:28] <sazawal> I do not know what happened .... I used aptitude for installation and it suggested my to downgrade them
[12:28] <sazawal> I did not put any external ppas
[12:28] <WanderingEnder> airplanesimen, what's your OS for your client PC?
[12:28] <airplanesimen> linux, ubuntu
[12:28] <airplanesimen> both
[12:29] <WanderingEnder> You want SSH forwarding.
[12:29] <sazawal> Dr_willis, still I know the packages those were downgraded and their version
[12:29] <sazawal> Can I get them back?
[12:29] <sazawal> like 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1 for libpulse0
[12:29] <airplanesimen> i know how t forward, but not to forward ssh through the proxy at school, proxify the ssh program
[12:29] <airplanesimen> to use a proxy
[12:32] <viktor> could somebody tell me which command i can use to enable the "universe" component pls?
[12:32] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[12:32] <sazawal> Do you understand what does this mean : 0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1?
[12:33] <[Si]> sacarlson it sounds like airplanesimen's network is blocking 22 outbound, he'd need to build a https wrapper round ssh to use that.
[12:33] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: I assume you want to run your browser from your laptop at school through a tunnel to your home to proxy to the internet
[12:34] <airplanesimen> ihave, i have.. i know how to forward, but how can i make OpenSSH go through a proxy at school? :D
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  maverick is an almost EOL version of ubuntu, a PPA is a local software source
[12:34] <sacarlson> [Si]: airplanesimen: if that's the case then they might need to change the ssh server listen address to be port 80
[12:34] <airplanesimen> i have set proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, but what about ssh
[12:34] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, yes
[12:34] <airplanesimen> hmm, smart!
[12:34] <shenra> hey i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and teh touchpad mouse stopped working.  is there anyway i can turn it back on?
[12:34] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, any clue ?
[12:35] <airplanesimen> but what if other connections uses that port?
[12:35] <[Si]> if they are using a very dumb firewall that'd work :)
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  about what? where does that line come from?
[12:35] <airplanesimen> no, this firewall is advanced..  but i can try, thanks!
[12:35] <sazawal> :D, Do you have any clue what should I do now
[12:35] <viktor> i'm installing yum, and i'd need to enable the component "universe". how do i do that?
[12:35] <[Si]> you are better off using a propper https wrapper round ssh (http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/) as that will work through all https proxies :)
[12:36] <viktor> is it like a repo i need to add?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  depends on where that line comes from, when did it show?
[12:36] <airplanesimen> bye, thanks for the help :D
[12:36] <airplanesimen> i will come back
[12:37] <HideMe> The left/right side buttons on my Razer DeathAdder mouse don't work, any idea how to enable this?
[12:37] <sacarlson> airplanesimen: your firewall at school will also have to pass port 443 the for https so you can also use that at your home ssh server to listen on
[12:37] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit architecture, I tried to install pulseaudio-module-jack then it asked me to downgrade some packages
[12:37] <sazawal> i approved and it downgraded some pulseaudio packages
[12:37] <airplanesimen> yes, i thought of that :)
[12:37] <sazawal> now my volume-control and spund preferences are not working
[12:37] <airplanesimen> bye
[12:38] <sazawal> I have the details of what packages were downgraded and to what version
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  ah, no, doesnt err, ring a bell, sorry
[12:40] <sazawal> ok it was showing that for example libpulse was downgraded from "0.9.22+stable-queue-24-g67d18-0ubuntu3.1~maverick1~ppa1" to "0.9.22~0.9.21+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu21.1"
[12:40] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, do you have an idea what does this line mean?
[12:40] <sazawal> how to get this version back?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  no, i'm not familiar with it myself
[12:41] <sazawal> okay :(
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> sazawal, Have you tried posting a thread (with all of the info), in the forums?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> I know it takes a little longer. :-(
[12:44] <sazawal> Sidewinder1, not yet
[12:44] <sazawal> I thought I could get it working
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> sazawal  instead of struggling with the error, my advice is to upgrade ubuntu, as maverick will be End Of Life in a few weeks from now
[12:45] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, yes I will try doing that
[12:45] <sazawal> but it was working so fine
[12:45] <gogeta_> How to get QT 4.8, i use ubuntu 11.10, do i need to add any other repos?
[12:45] <sazawal> MonkeyDust, hey can you take a look here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily/+build/2864092
[12:46] <sazawal> looks like this is what I need to install
[12:46] <airplanesimen> here again
[12:48] <hiatus> soo.. this ubuntu for android. Is it compatible with x86?
[12:49] <expert> hi
[12:49] <ix_> I just don't understand how to install a gtk3 theme
[12:49] <ix_> and there are no instrunctions
[12:50] <gogeta_> expert: Hi, how to get QT4.8, should i add any repo?
[12:51] <popey> hiatus: there's been no releases yet
[12:51] <expert> hey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation
[12:52] <Dr_willis> ix_,  extract to your .themes or was it .themes directory i belive
[12:52] <hiatus> popey: no release of what?
[12:52] <popey> hiatus: ubuntu for android, you just asked about it
[12:53] <hiatus> ah
[12:53] <HideMe> best way to edit xorg.conf in ubuntu?
[12:53] <hiatus> I thought there was... well... wtf!
[12:53] <ix_> Dr_willis, I've extracted it and I've put it in the usr/share/themes
[12:54] <popey> hiatus: not yet
[12:55] <zykotick9> HideMe: do you have an xorg.conf currently?
[12:55] <hiatus> popey: still, closed development? Thats pretty unusual. I was going to install android on my thinkpad and then see if I could get ubuntu for android to run on top of it
[12:55] <hiatus> it would have been awesome... now I must wait for such awesomeness!
[12:55] <popey> its targetting phones, not laptops
[12:56] <hiatus> what do I care who canonical is targeting?
[12:56] <popey> hiatus: ok, have a nice day.
[12:57] <hiatus> O.o
[12:59] <melvincv> hi all. how do I apply this to wine 1.4 - http://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=30052
[12:59] <ikonia> melvincv: it's a patch you'd need to recompile wine
[13:00] <Klej> I've installed ubuntu on my laptop
[13:00] <Klej> and
[13:01] <Klej> how can i boot him cause he was installed include on local disc c: where is also windows 7
[13:01] <traubisoda> how can i configure apache perl cgi to work correctly? now perl scripts are opened as text in browser
[13:01] <melvincv> ikonia, how do I apply the patch into the source?
[13:01] <Klej> he said me to remowe usb and hit enter
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Klej  wubi?
[13:01] <trkemist> Hey all
[13:01] <Klej> when he restart it boots windows 7
[13:01] <trkemist> How can I / should I report a successful new machine install
[13:01] <Klej> MonkeyDust i've usedd unetbootin
[13:01] <ikonia> melvincv: it's quite a complex process
[13:01] <Klej> and live cd boot menu
[13:01] <ikonia> melvincv: who told you, you need that patch ?
[13:02] <trkemist> I am happily sitting here working on my new Dell Ultrabook XPS13 running Ubuntu 11.10 with 99% of everything working out the gate... very cool.
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Klej  and do you get a grub menu?
[13:02] <Klej> yeah
[13:02] <Klej> successfully istalled
[13:02] <hateball> Klej: If you hold the shift key while the computer boots you will get the grub menu, can you see Ubuntu there?
[13:02] <Klej> i will try
[13:02] <melvincv> ikonia, my own research. I'm trying to get Stronghold Kingdoms game working on Ubuntu.
[13:03] <trkemist> The mousepad thing... not so much.. I can't figure this out..
[13:03] <melvincv> ikonia, I have this issue: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23934
[13:04] <viktor> how do i install the universe repo using wget?
[13:05] <expert> hey anyone can teach me to have pxe network boot as well as windows installation
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> viktor  it's not something to install, it's something to make available or activate
[13:06] <shwaiil> Q: To move a file from one directory to other, or better to copy, what's the command ? thanks
[13:06] <viktor> MonkeyDust, euhm yeah, of course. i just need to add it to the sources list (i think), but i can't copy-paste right now, and i know it's doable with wget
[13:06] <Pici> viktor: Can I ask why you're trying to install yum?
[13:07] <viktor> but forgot how exactly
[13:07] <__nu11___> d-i debian-installer/locale string en_US
[13:07] <__nu11___> i have added that line into my preseed file but it keeps asking me to choose a language :S
[13:07] <Klej> When i hold shift nothing to do.
[13:07] <Klej> It boot windows 7
[13:07] <__nu11___> shwaiil: mv <source> <destination>
[13:07] <viktor> Pici, i'm trying to install guest additions on a virtual system, and some tutorial gave that as a command
[13:08] <shwaiil> __nu11___: tks for looking, to copy use "cp dir dest" ?
[13:08] <viktor> Pici https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15679
[13:08] <__nu11___> shwaiil: yes :)
[13:08] <__nu11___> shwaiil: and if it's a directory use cp -r
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> viktor  is this link useful? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addrepo-easiest-way-to-add-apt-repositories.html
[13:08] <Klej> Someone tell me... ?
[13:08] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  recursive right ? thanks
[13:08] <Klej> How to boot linux
[13:09] <Pici> viktor: That part of the tutorial is for people with Fedora.
[13:09] <Klej> Installed on local disc c:
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> viktor  forget that link I showed, it's something else
[13:10] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  let's say I have DirectoryB and I want to move to DirectoryA. I dont want to keep DirectoryB when moving, but only the nested files. What should I do ?
[13:10] <viktor> Pici, right, thus the dangers of not attentivly reading what you're doing...
[13:10] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  I ment not perserving the directory name
[13:10] <Klej> Hellooooooooooo
[13:10] <Pici> viktor: If you still want to enable universe, typically you only need to uncomment a line in /etc/apt/sources.list  or  add a line, its really not enough text to need to copy/paste too.
[13:11] <__nu11___> mv -r DirA/* DirA
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Klej  what happens when you choose ubuntu in the grub menu
[13:11] <__nu11___> shwaiil: ^
[13:11] <melvincv> Klej, If you installed in Windows, you should see a menu to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu when you turn on your computer.
[13:11] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  hmm
[13:11] <Klej> I dont have it.
[13:12] <Klej> And i cant choose grub menu without usb stick
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Klej  don't have what?
[13:12] <viktor> Pici, you're right, i should just typ it, it's not in the list though, dtrying to run a different system virtually on ubuntu, but that's not really relevant
[13:12] <shwaiil> __nu11___:  for copy cp -r DirA/* DirB ?
[13:12] <__nu11___> shwaiil: yes
[13:12] <shwaiil> __nu11___: thanks a lot
[13:13] <Klej> I dont know whats the problem
[13:13] <Klej> He said me that installation was successfull
[13:13] <__nu11___> but lemme but this all together you want to move dirb/file1...file10 to dira and the final result is dira/file1....file10 right?
[13:13] <Klej> But linux nowhere i can see
[13:14] <__nu11___> Klej: you installed ubuntu using what way?cd netwrok wubi or what?
[13:14] <melvincv> Klej, what screen are you in now?
[13:14] <Klej> windows 7
[13:14] <Lionthinker> hi there
[13:14] <Lionthinker> I have a problem with Libre Office Impress
[13:14] <Lionthinker> Can anyone help
[13:15] <Klej> I have a file called wubi on my flash
[13:15] <vlt> !enter | Lionthinker
[13:15] <Klej> I've been modified isolinux to syslinux
[13:15] <HideMe> zykotick9,  No
[13:15] <Lionthinker> apologies, so when I use animations in impress it crashes, can anyone help?
[13:15] <__nu11___> Lionthinker: tried to upgrade it?
[13:16] <__nu11___> Klej: private please :)
[13:16] <Lionthinker> how do I do that?
[13:16] <__nu11___> Lionthinker: system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade
[13:16] <Dr_willis> Klej,  a wubi install would use the windows boot menu/loader. , a normal install would use a grub menu befor windows even starts up.
[13:17] <melvincv> For me, the Windows bootloader displays a menu with Ubuntu as a choice, whenn I select that it goes to Grub4DOS, then Ubuntu.
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Klej,  so you booted a flash driev and selected 'install' or what exactly?
[13:17] <Klej> Dr_willis yes
[13:17] <Klej> exactly that.
[13:17] <Dr_willis> exactly what?
[13:18] <Klej> in my properties i dont have to seen mylti OS ..just see windows 7
[13:18] <dape> hello, i just updated perl, how do i run something like perl-updater --modules to make sure everything is cool?
[13:18] <Lionthinker> null_ thank will try that
[13:20] <melvincv> Klej, properties? When you turn on your computer, observe what happens. You should get to choose between Windows 7 and Ubuntu.
[13:20] <Klej> No.
[13:20] <Klej> it starts only windows 7
[13:20] <monohedron> can someone point me to a tut on how to modify the login screen on 11.04
[13:20] <Lionthinker> -Null- could you explain that in baby steps, are those steps meant to be in the terminal? in which case could you explain the code
[13:20] <Klej> i will try with wubi
[13:21] <Dr_willis> monohedron,  theres some guides on the webupd8 blog site and askubuntu on tweaking lightdm and gdm.
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  i suggest you dont even touch wubi.
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Klej  wubi is not a real installation
[13:21] <monohedron> Dr_willis, thanks I'll have a read
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  you are able to boot the usb to get to a live desktop?
[13:21] <Klej> yeah...
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Klej,  id try using the fixboot tool and have it reinstall grub.
[13:21] <toozler> ;frm
[13:21] <Dr_willis> !fixboot
[13:22] <Dr_willis> !grub
[13:22] <Dr_willis> Hope that fixboot tool gets included by defaunt on the 12.04 cd :)
[13:22] <Klej> and what to do with fixboot
[13:23] <Dr_willis> 'boot-repair' is its offial name..
[13:23] <Dr_willis> install boot-repair.. run it..
[13:23] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:23] <Klej> install on usb ?
[13:23] <Dr_willis> boot the usb.. install the program.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> it will install to ram
[13:23] <Klej> ok
[13:24] <Klej> maybe it's not the problem.....
[13:25] <ubuntu_lover> hi
[13:26] <Lionthinker> Libre Impress help: how do I do this?     system---->admin---->synaptic----> search for impress and mark for upgrade
[13:26] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  synaptic is not installed on ubuntu by default. use whatever package manager tool you want.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> 'search with the tool for impress' install it...
[13:26] <ubuntu_lover> i want to upload a folder to my ftp server . i am using filezilla . i am noob and i dont know what should we give in the option remote site.pls help
[13:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_lover,  the ip or hostname of your ftp server.
[13:27] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis - so Impress crashes and I don't know how to check for updates
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  if theres updates the update-manager should find and install them.
[13:27] <ubuntu_lover> i gave it ie ftp.navriti.com
[13:27] <_Marcus> What is xserver-xorg-video-openchrome? I did updates with apt-get and it installed that
[13:27] <ubuntu_lover> but that doesnt work
[13:27] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  Lionthinker  for the terminal
[13:27] <_Marcus> This is Ubuntu Server, so no GUI
[13:28] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis - so then I'm up to date, but how do I solve this crash that doesn't even have a crash report
[13:28] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: What crashed?
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Lionthinker,  run it from terminal. look for error messages, check bug reports site. and perhaps askubuntu.com
[13:28] <Lionthinker> Dr Willis_I'll that,
[13:29] <Dr_willis> !tab | Lionthinker
[13:29] <Lionthinker> Marcus_impress crashed when attempting different animations
[13:29] <_Marcus> Oh
[13:30] <Dr_willis> theres a libreoffice channel i imagine also.
[13:30] <Lionthinker> Dr_willis, its under document foundation but rather empty, came here out of desperation
[13:31] <Dr_willis> I use abiword. :)
[13:31] <_Marcus> I don't have x11, would it be okay to uninstall the x11 packages on my system?
[13:31] <Lionthinker> ubottu, thanks for the tip, its the only way I'm learning
[13:31] <Dr_willis> _Marcus,  if you dont need them. but i often ssh to my servers and run X apps
[13:32] <Dr_willis> or use vnc.
[13:32] <Lionthinker> ubottu, whats a bot
[13:32] <jrib> Lionthinker: robot, machine, program
[13:32] <Lionthinker> :-D
[13:32] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: He isn't a person, he is an IRC bot. And IRC bot is a program that responds to commands that people active. Type "!ubottu" for more information about him
[13:33] <airplanesimen> ubottu haha :D
[13:33] <zykotick9> _Marcus: she, ubottu is a women
[13:33] <zykotick9> !gender
[13:33] <Dr_willis> a 'Fembot' :P
[13:33] <_Marcus> Dr_willis: I am on Ubuntu Server, so I don't use any GUI at all. I tried installing one before, but removed it afterwards, so there is still x11 packages still here. I don't know if anything is using it though.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> _Marcus,  go for it then.
[13:34] <jrib> _Marcus: remove it, and if you find out later that you need it, put it back?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Theres even a X11 server in the works for android - remote X sessions on my tablet :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> and of course.. someday ubuntu in your pocket.
[13:35] <traubisoda> how can i manage a 7.1 sound card on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:35] <_flamen_> una pregunta alguien entiende español
[13:36] <zykotick9> traubisoda: reask in #ubuntu+1
[13:36] <traubisoda> okay, thx
[13:37] <Lionthinker> "!ubottu"
[13:37] <_Marcus> !es | _flamen_
[13:37] <_Marcus> Lionthinker: No quotes
[13:37] <Pici> !msgthebot
[13:40] <wdonkey> hi, i<ve recently undertook some newbish fixing of my ubuntu system and the whole thing wont boot anymore. i did backp recently but i forgot about my important tomboy notes, how can i recover these from a live CD ?
[13:41] <_Marcus> When I used apt-get, this happened: http://pastebin.com/GSeJbsU1
[13:41] <Dr_willis> wdonkey,  you dident use the tomboy feature to save them to your ubuntuone account?
[13:41] <_Marcus> How do I use apt-get again?
[13:41] <jrib> _Marcus: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:41] <wdonkey> no sir
[13:42] <_flamen_> eee
[13:42] <_flamen_> de nuevo
[13:42] <_flamen_> que es lo que tengo que poner
[13:42] <_flamen_> si me leeis
[13:42] <Dr_willis> only one package manager can be working at a time
[13:42] <_flamen_> alguno
[13:42] <FloodBot1> _flamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Wouter_> _Marcus, from an ssh terminal user : sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[13:42] <_flamen_> para entrar
[13:42] <_flamen_> en salas españolas
[13:42] <_Marcus> !es | _flamen_
[13:42] <zykotick9> _Marcus: do you have an Ubuntu Software Center, or update running?  only one apt can run at a time.
[13:42] <wdonkey> Dr_willis: i still have access to my filesystem on the livecd im on but i cant find the correct path to my beloved notes
[13:43] <_Marcus> zykotick9: I was in the middle of an apt-get, but it was trying to remove PHPMyAdmin, and I didn't want that, so I exited out of SSH terminal.
[13:43] <Wouter_> If you are getting ´unable to lock the administration directory´ when using apt-get you are probably not root. use sudo before the apt-get.
[13:43] <_Marcus> Wouter_: My paste showed me using root
[13:43] <Wouter_> ah
[13:43] <Dr_willis> wdonkey,  i always save mine to the ubuntuone account so i can get to them from anywhere. Not sure what the path is to a local copy of them.
[13:44] <Wouter_> then it might be still running
[13:44] <wdonkey> alright
[13:44] <wdonkey> i<ll try to recover my old system then, thanks!
[13:44] <zykotick9> wdonkey: check ~/.local/share/tomboy
[13:45] <zykotick9> !aptlock | _Marcus
[13:46] <_Marcus> I already restarted the server
[13:46] <_Marcus> But I'll keep that written down for futher use
[13:48] <airplanesimen> does it matter what certificate i use on a wpa-enterprise secured network with maschapv2 and version0 - network?
[13:53] <binaryking> hello
[13:54] <binaryking> is there any word-processing tool for ubuntu which removes the repetitions of words
[13:54] <binaryking> like i have google written 50 times so it keeps 1 and deletes the rest (49)
[13:55] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  in what kind of file?
[13:55] <binaryking> a txt one.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> grep/sed/awk binaryking  has ways
[13:55] <prod_> Hi all im looking to make a mail server. It doesnt need to do much. For now I just need it to have 1 email address and I only need to recieve mail with it for now.  Can anyone advise me of a good tutorial?
[13:55] <HideMe> best way to edit x confing in ubuntu?
[13:56] <nlko> prod_: apt-get install exim
[13:56] <binaryking> Dr_willis: they all r diff. soft.?
[13:56] <Dr_willis> HideMe,  the xorg.conf file is a text file. so use a text editor. ;)
[13:56] <urbov> is there a command line utitli
[13:56] <silv3r_m00n> is there some kind of terminal command for cups which will search for remote printer ?
[13:56] <eikaiewa> hihello
[13:56] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  differnt tools that work for manaplating text files
[13:56] <urbov> utility for configure a UMTS stick
[13:56] <HideMe> Dr_willis,   But I do not have a xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:56] <prod_> nlko: thanx
[13:56] <binaryking> Dr_willis: ok. thanks :)
[13:56] <Dr_willis> HideMe,  so make one?
[13:56] <eikaiewa> is there an official I need help channel?
[13:57] <nlko> prod_: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/exim4.html
[13:57] <Pici> prod_: The Ubuntu Server Guide is very helpful for setting up a basic mail server.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[13:57] <Dr_willis> silv3r_m00n,  i think theres a lot of cups cli tools. the cups website has docs detailing them ive rarely needed them
[13:57] <urbov> is there a command-line utility to configure an USB UMTS stick
[13:57] <binaryking> Dr
[13:58] <binaryking> Dr_willis: grep and sed is already installed on my UbPC
[13:58] <binaryking> how do i execute them?
[13:58] <eikaiewa> I changed the graphics settings on my netbook, and not it will not boot
[13:58] <eikaiewa> any advice on where to start?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> binaryking,  you will have to read up on their ussage. and how regular expressions work. check the web for 'sed examples'  there should be some examples on removeing repeated text
[13:59] <wdonkey> zykotick9: couldnt find anything there, only odd files
[14:00] <monohedron> eikaiewa, do you get to see the grub window?
[14:00] <eikaiewa> back now
[14:01] <eikaiewa> I see nothing
[14:01] <eikaiewa> Just the fringe of the backlight
[14:02] <eikaiewa> When I hit the power button,  Ubuntu 10.4 shows up and it shuts down though
[14:02] <wdonkey> if i retrofit my system to an older version of ubuntu with a live CD, will i have the option of keeping my preference/documents ?
[14:03] <monohedron> eikaiewa, press ESC between poweron and the ubuntu window
[14:04] <eikaiewa> does nothing.  I see the bios flash, then nada. Not even a blip in the corner
[14:04] <cryptothesly> wdonkey: certainly not automatically. There are ways to do it if you home partition is separate. But really - best off backing everything up before you start. Then once installed copy back in whatever preference folders and files you  like.
[14:05] <eikaiewa> I was following this advice:
[14:05] <meerkats> Damn Rhythmbox erased half of my mp4 files, but they are still in the trash. All this data is stored in usb0, but when I select all and restore it says it cannot find usb0, even when its plugged in
[14:05] <eikaiewa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229345
[14:05] <eikaiewa> my graphics looked awesome for the first time since the install
[14:05] <eikaiewa> reboot and then nothing
[14:05] <c0rnel> all
[14:05] <c0rnel> hello > all :)
[14:06] <wdonkey> cryptothesly: can i just copy the whole /home folder and copy it back into my new installation ^
[14:06] <binaryking> Dr_willis: that isn't helping
[14:06] <c0rnel> how can i upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04?
[14:06] <r0hit> meerkats, move em off from ~/.local/trash folder
[14:06] <binaryking> Dr_willis: any text editor or word processing.
[14:06] <meerkats> Error while moving "\media\usb0\.Trash-1000...\4%20-%20Don't%20Cry.mp3"
[14:07] <compdoc> eikaiewa, time to try the live boot cd
[14:07] <binaryking> hey guys i want some help
[14:07] <eikaiewa> is there something like a n ubuntu safe mode?
[14:07] <eikaiewa> i dont even own a cd player
[14:07] <binaryking> is there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?
[14:07] <cryptothesly> wdonkey: You can. Make sure you get all the hidden ones that start with a dot as well. Probably not advisable to copy the whole home dir back - rather selectively copy back the relevant application folders
[14:08] <binaryking> like if i have nafees 4 times, it keeps the 1st 1, and deletes the other 3
[14:08] <meerkats> another thing: there are 2000 files in the trash: for each one it says the same message: I have been clicking on "ok" for like 5 minutes, isnt there a faster way? ctrl-c doesnt seem to wrok
[14:08] <meerkats> to cancel the operation
[14:08] <eikaiewa> is there a way to revert my ubuntu install_
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> cups is not detecting a printer over the LAN , it detects sometime and sometimes doesn't
[14:10] <monohedron> eikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you not the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.
[14:10] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix
[14:10] <eikaiewa> is there a setting with empathy that I am missing, or are the messages just slow today?
[14:11] <monohedron> eikaiewa, when booting press ESC. That should take you to the GRUB menu. There you can boot in safe mode.
[14:11] <silv3r_m00n> remote_machine:631 works fine though
[14:11] <eikaiewa> When I press esc, my computer angerly beeps at me.  I tried 6 combinations (pressing, holding down, ...~  Nothing gets me to grub
[14:11] <wdonkey> zykotick9: it finaly worked, thanks
[14:12] <eikaiewa> (I did google first, and got nowhere there)
[14:12] <monohedron> eikaiewa, do you remember what you did to your computer ?
[14:13] <monohedron> eikaiewa, if so you could use a live usb stick. mount your partition and change it back
[14:14] <Oer> usually it is left shift @ boot to enter grub-menu
[14:14] <Oer> some say right shift works also.
[14:15] <monohedron> i seem to rememeber esc for some reason
[14:16] <wisnia> hi all , anyone knows how to change font in gnome?
[14:17] <monohedron> wisnia, that's like asking can someone tell to hello in asian
[14:17] <meerkats> r0hit, that only shows the files erased from my hard drive, not from my HDD, external one, usb0
[14:17] <monohedron> wisnia, right click your dektop go to back ground. then you should have a tab with fonts
[14:18] <shaneo> can someone please help me im getting a really weird error when running add-apy --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:18] <shaneo> *add-apt
[14:18] <meerkats> ok, found the damed files inside usb0
[14:18] <shaneo> and its not gpg key error or anything like that it pertains to ssl CA certs
[14:18] <meerkats> .trash-1000 inside usbo has all the files I need
[14:19] <meerkats> how do I restore em?
[14:19] <shaneo> meerkats, copy from .trash to root of flash
[14:20] <shaneo> or w/e
[14:20] <meerkats> shaneo, for noobs please: create a folder named root and move everyhting there?
[14:20] <shaneo> no just move the files wherever you want them to be
[14:20] <ikonia> meerkats: the root of the usb is the top level directory of the usb drive
[14:20] <ikonia> ls
[14:20] <ikonia> oops
[14:22] <meerkats> shaneo, we are talking about 4000 files, I must find an automated way to restore all to their original position
[14:22] <meerkats> location
[14:22] <shaneo> meerkats, cp * /put/dir/here/
[14:22] <r0hit> meerkats, comfy with terminal?
[14:23] <kingdomfire> !lista
[14:23] <shaneo> or mv * /put/dir/here
[14:23] <r0hit> meerkats, mount your external drive in /media/usb0 manually and give it a shot
[14:23] <kingdomfire> !addon
[14:24] <shaneo> meerkats, you want me to jot ya down a quick script for transferring files?
[14:24] <meerkats> but the 4000 mp4 files are grouped by album and artist, so each directory contains no more thatn 12 tracks on average. 4000/12 = 333 different folders
[14:25] <kingdomfire> !game
[14:25] <meerkats> r0hit, to mount manually first I must unmount via gparted, right?
[14:25] <Pici> kingdomfire: Can we help you?
[14:25] <r0hit> meerkats, yes
[14:25] <kingdomfire> pici yes
[14:26] <kingdomfire> how do I for download games for pc?
[14:26] <Pici> kingdomfire: This channel is for Ubuntu Linux support.  It is not a place for pirating games.
[14:26] <shaneo> meerkats, cp -r * /this/is/where/your/files/are/going
[14:26] <kingdomfire> ok thanks
[14:27] <r0hit> meerkats, also i think Trash restore failed because your probably changed the drive's label or reformatted it?
[14:27] <meerkats> thanks shaneo , but im still trying r0hit 's way...
[14:27] <kingdomfire> and which is channel?
[14:27] <shaneo> alright then
[14:27] <_Marcus> kingdomfire: Freenode isn't a place for piracy either.
[14:27] <meerkats> i would never reformat that shit
[14:27] <meerkats> not in the present state of things
[14:27] <johnm> kingdomfire: www.steam.com, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/ubuntu-software-centre - start paying for what you want to own.
[14:27] <r0hit> shaneo, i dont think trash folder maintains heirarchy. dumps everything in one folder and saves heirarchy metadata elsewhere
[14:27] <binaryking> is there any text editor which helps to delete text re-occurences?
[14:28] <shaneo> all files and folders should be in /.trash-1000/files/
[14:28] <meerkats> shaneo, yes they are
[14:29] <meerkats> shaneo, usb0/.trash-1000/files
[14:29] <shaneo> anyway can someone please help me with this error i can add any repos cause im getting ssl ca errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:29] <shaneo> *cant
[14:29] <r0hit> meerkats, 4000 files are showing up in /.trash-1000/files or are they organized?
[14:30] <shaneo> they should be organized mine always are
[14:30] <meerkats> r0hit, just the 4000 files without hierarchy or folders
[14:30] <shaneo> damn
[14:31] <_FLamen_> joer me cay
[14:31] <_FLamen_> no se
[14:31] <Guest76286> uijhip;
[14:31] <_FLamen_> quien me a  dixo
[14:31] <_FLamen_> que no se usarlo
[14:31] <_FLamen_> tiene razon
[14:31] <FloodBot1> _FLamen_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <_FLamen_> pero
[14:31] <Pici> !es | _FLamen_
[14:31] <_FLamen_> aun asi no me gusta
[14:31] <shaneo> meerkats, just use banshee to import the files via the media player and set options to create folders
[14:31] <Guest76286> Where am I ?
[14:32] <monohedron> Guest76286, your are safe
[14:32] <shaneo> Guest76286, this is IRC
[14:32] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You are in #ubuntu
[14:32] <shaneo> lol
[14:32] <Guest76286> Ohhh right. I'm in school
[14:32] <jin> so many person
[14:32] <shaneo> those three replies went together pretty well
[14:33] <monohedron> yup
[14:33] <AcidRain> lol who am i
[14:33] <Guest76286> Is anyone in Macedonia ?
[14:33] <monohedron> AcidRain, not me
[14:33] <_Marcus> !ot | Guest76286
[14:33] <shaneo> anyone please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/
[14:33] <AcidRain> Guest76286: this is not a hookup channel
[14:34] <jin> i dislike unity
[14:34] <shaneo> AOL irc chans died decades ago nobody does that n/s/a/l stuff anymore
[14:34] <mehdi> anybody knows how can i run h264 ? i try this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 but ut didnt work
[14:34] <shaneo> jin, why
[14:35] <Guest76286> Please help me
[14:35] <Guest76286> I'm in school
[14:35] <Guest76286> in Macedonia
[14:35] <babble> jin: I'm not ready to live in it full time yet - if you were a Gnome user, you may have a look at Xubuntu for a more gnome2-style desktop
[14:35] <Guest76286> some terroirsit just came in
[14:35] <Abhijit> Guest76286, what language you speak there in Macedonia?
[14:35] <Guest76286> please alert someone in my country
[14:35] <Abhijit> :-(
[14:35] <Guest76286> I'm just kidding
[14:35] <Guest76286> we speak Macedonian
[14:35] <shaneo>  Guest76286 thats not funny
[14:36] <Abhijit> !macedonian
[14:36] <Guest76286> is this a support chat ?
[14:36] <crossfader> i think so
[14:36] <_Marcus> Guest76286: For Ubuntu, it is the support chat.
[14:36] <crossfader> and i hope so
[14:36] <Guest76286> can some help me install flash player on here
[14:36] <monohedron> only if that terrorist runs on ubuntu and has an untainted kernel
[14:36] <shaneo> mehdi, sudo apt-get install x264 ffmpeg mplayer mencoder
[14:36] <Guest76286> we kindda removed it :
[14:37] <Guest76286> and now it's not working
[14:37] <_Marcus> Install it again then
[14:37] <shaneo> Guest76286, check the software center for flash installer
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> root > Guest60791
[14:38] <Guest76286> our computers were locked from most use
[14:38] <Guest76286> we hacked in using the terminal
[14:38] <Guest76286> and made admin accounts
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> oops, wrong factoid; sorry.
[14:38] <Guest76286> then we installed some un supportive software
[14:39] <_Marcus> Guest76286: That's not the correct terminology for "hacked" but okay.
[14:39] <Guest76286> and I think that broke the flah player
[14:39] <Guest76286> now when we try to delete that
[14:39] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You said you removed Flash player?
[14:39] <Guest76286> we can't
[14:39] <eikaiewa> so ... no grub for me.
[14:39] <eikaiewa> any other way to get my pc to do something?
[14:39] <eikaiewa> hmmm
[14:39] <Guest76286> is there a way ?
[14:40] <_Marcus> Guest76286: What software did you install that you think made it stop working?
[14:40] <Guest76286> 1 sec ....
[14:40] <shaneo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/895123/ <----- help please
[14:40] <Guest76286> I think the macroedia flash plugin
[14:40] <Guest76286> broke it
[14:41] <Guest76286> because it was un supportive
[14:41] <_Marcus> Guest76286: So Flash broke Flash?
[14:41] <Guest76286> on this version
[14:41] <meerkats> ok, another approach: the HDD is labelled "Volume1", but mount point is usb0, how do I make the mount point "Volume1"?
[14:41] <monohedron> shaneo, have you tried to add another ppa?
[14:41] <shaneo> yes many
[14:41] <bazhang> shaneo, did you try to purge that ppa first?
[14:41] <shaneo> same error everytime
[14:41] <shaneo> yes
[14:41] <shaneo> its not even added theres nothing to purge
[14:41] <Guest76286> an error comes up when I try to remove it
[14:42] <monohedron> what was that ppa again ?
[14:42] <Guest76286> and it says I have to use synaptic package manager
[14:42] <_Marcus> Guest76286: if you don't have privileges to remove it, ask your system administrator to do it.
[14:42] <Guest76286> but I can't find it :
[14:42] <shaneo> Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)') confuses me the most
[14:42] <Guest76286> yeah
[14:42] <Guest76286> about that
[14:42] <Guest76286> these are school computers
[14:42] <r0hit> Meepsheep, try mounting manually via terminal
[14:42] <monohedron> shaneo, the ppa url please
[14:42] <Guest76286> and we don't know
[14:42] <r0hit> meerkats, try mounting manually via terminal
[14:43] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Ask the school to fix it then
[14:43] <Guest76286> who manages these
[14:43] <bazhang> !enter | Guest76286
[14:43] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Ask a staff memeber
[14:43] <mehdi> shaneo, after instalation should i restart PC or not? becuz it aint work
[14:43] <shaneo>  ppa:kokoto-java/omgubuntu-stuff
[14:43] <meerkats> r0hit, sudo mount /media/Volume1 ?
[14:43] <shaneo> mehdi, ??
[14:44] <monohedron> let me see whether it installs here
[14:44] <Oer> Guest76286, you hacked into schoolcomputers, made admin-accounts and now complaining something goes wrong?
[14:44] <mehdi> shaneo, i install those thing u said, should i restart my system or not too codecs work ?
[14:44] <r0hit> meerkats, find the device and mention in explicitly. example: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Volume1
[14:44] <monohedron> shaneo, "ublic key "Launchpad PPA for George Karavasilev" imported"
[14:45] <shaneo> mehdi, shouldnt have to restart
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers
[14:45] <FloodBot1> dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <_Marcus> !ot | dzzozo
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like
[14:45] <dzzozo> http://www.facebook.com/Land.of.killers plz like
[14:45] <FloodBot1> dzzozo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:46] <GarryFre> Too funny no need o understand dialog. http://pulse.me/s/7hagG new use for iPad.
[14:46] <Guest76286> well
[14:46] <bazhang> GarryFre, dont paste that here
[14:46] <Guest76286> the hacking went well
[14:46] <_Marcus> !ot | GarryFre
[14:46] <Guest76286> but we are on a server
[14:46] <Guest76286> and one of my class mates
[14:46] <Guest76286> installed
[14:46] <GarryFre> Ok ok ok jeez!
[14:46] <Guest76286> unsupportive software
[14:46] <Guest76286> and that broke it
[14:46] <shaneo> monohedron, yeah i get that reply form others also but no ppas will add for me get that error everytime
[14:46] <Myrtti> !enter | Guest76286
[14:47] <bazhang> Guest76286, stop using the enter key like that
[14:47] <___jk___> http://pulse.me/s/7hagG
[14:47] <Guest76286> now we can't remove it
[14:47] <Pici> Guest76286: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:47] <shaneo> mehdi, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:47] <monohedron> shaneo, what does the log say ?
[14:47] <shaneo> where do i find add-apt logs
[14:47] <bazhang> ___jk___, wrong channel to paste that
[14:48] <_Marcus> Guest76286: You breaking into a system that you weren't supposed to be in and then complaining that something wont work isn't something I will help with. If you need help with something, ask the administrators at your school. If you are unsure who that is, then ask a staff member
[14:48] <mneptok> Guest76286: hacking and illegal access are frowned upon here, and you will not receive help.
[14:48] <mehdi> shaneo, i already did it
[14:48] <sskalnik> how to load a module by name?
[14:48] <babble> shaneo: have you tried reinstalling python-software-properties?
[14:49] <Guest76286> ok then were can I find synaptic package manager ?
[14:49] <shaneo> babble, python-software-properties is already the newest version
[14:49] <flood> hey, everyone, have a question, i've setup an ubuntu 11.10 and am trying to find any syslog config files, i know they are normally located at /etc/syslog.conf but it isn't there. I know syslog is working because /var/log/syslog and authlogs are logging stuff, how can i configure the preinstalled syslog, or do i have to install another package? thx!
[14:49] <mneptok> Guest76286: you will not receive any more help here. i suggest you stop asking and /part before i ban you.
[14:49] <_Marcus> Guest76286: Did you not understand that people said they wont help you?
[14:50] <shaneo> mehdi, than all codecs should be installed are you just trying to watch a movie or something
[14:50] <orated> Hi! Can anyone link me to a table which lists programs in Ubuntu alternative to Windows? (for a beginner)
[14:50] <babble> shaneo: I don't doubt that, but if you're getting python errors when running it, I'm curious if it's something as simple as a syntax error in the installed script
[14:50] <mehdi> i try yo watch movie but it gives me error
[14:50] <bazhang> !equivalents | orated
[14:50] <monohedron> shaneo, tail /var/log/syslog
[14:51] <sskalnik> orated:  also http://alternativeto.net/
[14:51] <shaneo> monohedron, http://paste.ubuntu.com/895172/
[14:51] <mehdi> shaneo, problem solved i should have installed SMplayer
[14:51] <meerkats> r0hit, $ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Volume-1 /media/usb0 will only load the HDD because of /media/usb0...
[14:52] <shaneo> mehdi, ah yes i forgot about that one
[14:52] <orated> Thanks bazhang sskalnik
[14:53] <l1f3> ~/who mneptok
[14:53]  * mneptok blinks
[14:54] <mneptok> _Marcus: you could just *ask* what client i am using.
[14:54] <_Marcus> :P
[14:55] <_Marcus> mneptok: That seems to be what people say a lot when I use CTCP VERSION
[14:55] <mneptok> _Marcus: maybe it's time you take the hint.
[14:55] <_Marcus> :P
[14:58] <pizza> hello
[14:58] <ryanprior> I can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?
[14:58] <compdoc> youre making me hungry
[14:59] <Glacee> Who should I talk to to go over all the bug I have with openstack swift running on precise?
[14:59] <sskalnik> try #ubuntu+1
[14:59] <bazhang> Glacee, #ubuntu+1 for precise not here
[14:59] <monohedron> sorry shaneo no idea
[14:59] <waxstone> !precise | Glacee
[15:00] <pizza> what version do I want to install on a netbook?
[15:00] <shaneo> monohedron, ok thanks anyway though i guess ill figure it out eventually
[15:00] <bazhang> pizza, the regular one, there is no netbook edition anymore
[15:01] <bazhang> !une | pizza
[15:01] <phatphoton_> Hi all, I have a problem with my bluetooth autodisconnecting after auth for a mouse. I have an hcidump to help, could anybody help me on that feild?
[15:01] <Dr_willis> and we are glad its gone. :)
[15:01] <pizza> 11.10 or 10.04?
[15:02] <bazhang> pizza, the latest 11.10
[15:03] <bhavesh> I deleted my Ubuntu partition with MiniTool Partition Wizard(windows). Is there any way I can undo the changes?
[15:03] <bhavesh> I didnt format it
[15:03] <compdoc> pizza, newer means better/more driver support for hardware
[15:03] <bhavesh> windows recovery once brought back the windows partition deleted with the same tool
[15:03] <Fraz> hi
[15:03] <bazhang> !undelete | bhavesh
[15:04] <Fraz> just trying out wine. im running a dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu...
[15:04] <cryptothesly> bhavesh: look to a liveCD and the testdisk package. I've had success restoring partitions with that before.
[15:04] <Fraz> can i run my existing windows installation of photoshop through wine?
[15:04] <bhavesh> cryptothesly: k
[15:04] <Fraz> or any app i installed on windows for that matter
[15:05] <ryanprior> I can't install Ubuntu 11.10 - when I try, it fails in the bootloader installation phase. When I try to install grub via the terminal, I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."  How can I fix my bootloader?
[15:05] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, , like system rescue cd ?
[15:05] <sudu> hello
[15:05] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: which system rescue cd?
[15:05] <c0rnel> sysresccd.org
[15:06] <auronandace> Fraz: no, you install the app in wine
[15:06] <Fraz> :(
[15:06] <cryptothesly> don't know, not used it, but if it has testdisk then it should do.
[15:06] <orated> bazhang: Other than !commands, could you suggest me a chart/table for commonly used commands as well?
[15:06] <auronandace> !appdb | Fraz
[15:06] <sudu> what u mean by whine? (^_^)
[15:07] <compdoc> Fraz, some programs run ok in wine, with minor problems. You might try Virtualbox instead
[15:07] <orated> !wine
[15:07] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: clearly that won't help with your 10.10 upgraded box.
[15:07] <sudu> wine????
[15:07] <mcnesium> i want to chroot my ssh upload user to his home directory, did so like described here http://j.mp/GFHBkR so now i can login with my sftp client (cyberduck) and see the home directory as root dir, can move to subfolders and back, but neither can i upload stuff nor download
[15:07] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, sure, i was thinking at live cd + testdisk ....
[15:07] <mcnesium> i read somewehere else that i need to set chmod 755 and chown root:root to /var/local and /var/local/upload (which is the homedir of the upload user), so i did
[15:07] <sudu> can i install photo shop with the help of wine???????????????
[15:08] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: for what?
[15:08] <pfarrell> hi! I'm trying to create a debian package for a piece of software I've written
[15:08] <mcnesium> before i did that i couldnt even connect via sftp
[15:08] <pfarrell> I took a sample packaging from a similar package (it's a pure python module) and am trying to use it
[15:08] <pfarrell> but dpkg-source just hangs!
[15:08] <auronandace> sudu: sure, check the appdb to see if it will work
[15:08] <c0rnel> cryptothesly, for bhavesh
[15:08] <mcnesium> but now i can see but have no rights to upload
[15:08] <Vert> sudu: Red wine might help?
[15:08] <pfarrell> I run dpkg-source -b <directory> and it just hangs there forever
[15:08] <_Marcus> sudu: Photoshop should have a Mac version
[15:08] <pfarrell> any ideas how I could debug this?
[15:08] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: ok then yes :D
[15:08] <sudu> .
[15:08] <c0rnel> :)
[15:08] <sudu> .
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Derp, I was thinking Mac. Linux, IDK
[15:09] <Fraz> can i access my windows file through ubuntu? i want to copy some files over
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Try this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/idiots-guide-installing-photoshop-cs5-ubuntu-1004/
[15:09] <cryptothesly> c0rnel: although I just tend to fire up an Ubu liveCD and install testdisk on it. Only because I always have those CDs lying around.
[15:09] <sudu> how 2 install photoshop
[15:09] <c0rnel> sure
[15:09] <_Marcus> sudu: Use the link I gave you
[15:09] <auronandace> sudu: ask in #winehq
[15:10] <auronandace> Fraz: yes, just mount the ntfs partition
[15:10] <Dr_willis> Fraz,  you can access window shares. or use ssh/winscp if you want to do a quick copy back/forth
[15:10] <resno> im trying to install postgres, but it wont start ubuntu 10.04
[15:10] <Dr_willis> or mount local drive...
[15:10] <Fraz> ok thanks
[15:10] <maximo> hello...
[15:10] <_Marcus> Hi Maximo
[15:11] <maximo> need to findout if I can upgrade to new LTS ubuntu?
[15:11] <mneptok> sudu: why not use The GIMP?
[15:11] <cryptothesly> maximo: from what version?
[15:11] <Dr_willis> !upgrade | maximo
[15:11] <maximo> from the last one...
[15:12] <maximo> hangon
[15:12] <Dr_willis> 12.04 LTS is not released yet. :)
[15:12] <ryanprior> maximo: what does "lsb_release -d" say?
[15:12] <phatphoton_> Quick bump on a bluetooth problem anybody?
[15:13] <Maximo> ryanprior: how do I do that?
[15:14] <ryanprior> Maximo: super key, "terminal", type "lsb_release -d"
[15:14] <Maximo> ok
[15:14] <orated> bazhang: Are you there?
[15:15] <bazhang> orated, bash guide you mean?
[15:15] <bazhang> !rute | orated
[15:15] <moe_egypt> hey guys, i need help, does anyone knw french chat rooms?
[15:15] <ryanprior> !fr | moe_egypt
[15:15] <bazhang> moe_egypt, #ubuntu-fr
[15:16] <resno> any help getting postgres installed and running?
[15:16] <ryanprior> resno: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=postgres+ubuntu
[15:16] <Maximo> ryanprior: 10:04.4 LTS
[15:16] <Dr_willis> resno,  tell the channel exactly how you installed.. and what the error messages are. use pastebin if needed
[15:17] <mneptok> moe_egypt: #ubuntu-qc itou
[15:17] <orated> bazhang: I meant a small chart/table for commonly used commands.. ? I saw !commands
[15:17] <bazhang> ryanprior, never use that here
[15:17] <resno> ryanprior: i <3 people like you
[15:17] <resno> Dr_willis: apt-get install postgres, but i cant login to its user, and /etc/init.d/postgres start doesnt show anything
[15:17] <ryanprior> bazhang, for my curiosity: your distaste or channel policy?
[15:17] <Dr_willis> orated,  many web sites have linux cli quick guides. saw one on lifehacker last week.
[15:17] <cryptothesly> Maximo: there is a way to upgrade from 10.04 -> 12.04 but it is not released yet so may well go horribly wrong.