[00:13] <richard_> device look me wrong
[00:19] <khaiser_> ...
[00:39] <a61_> Can I upgrade my memory in this pc2100 to say 1GB or 2GBsjust by plugging it in ?
[00:41] <genii> a61_: They still make pc2100 ddr up to a gig. So if your motherboard supports it, likely
[00:42] <a61_> okay thank you
[00:42] <genii> np
[00:48] <vbgunz> is there anyway to get both Kubuntu and Kmail to stop asking for a password the very first time they connect? With Kopete there is no clear cut way or intuitive way to do this :(
[01:08] <filo1234> hi is possible to lock  upgrade some packages, linux-image for example from adept or command line?
[01:08] <genii> !pinning
[01:09] <filo1234> genii:  thanks i read
[01:09] <genii> filo1234: You're welcome
[01:10] <filo1234> genii:  i have not preferences file in /etc/apt  i can create it?
[01:10] <genii> filo1234: Yes.
[01:11] <filo1234> genii:  ok thanks a lot :)
[01:11] <genii> filo1234: np
[01:11] <filo1234> genii:  can i ask you another little question?
[01:11] <genii> filo1234: Sure :)
[01:11] <filo1234> lol
[01:13] <filo1234> i have kubuntu hardy installed on eeepc 900 , on skype integrated microphone don' t run, so when i make test call on skype, i sent my voice but skype don' t capture my voice
[01:13] <filo1234> genii:  have some idea?  on alsamixer levels are all up, and on kmix too
[01:13] <genii> filo1234: Ah, about the eeepc I do not know much. They do have a channel here, perhaps some answer is there in #eeepc
[01:14] <filo1234> ok
[01:14] <filo1234> genii:  thanks and good night  :) bye
[01:15] <genii> filo1234: Good luck and good night
[01:15] <filo1234> :)
[01:30] <coreymon77> anyone mind helping me with sound issues
[01:30] <coreymon77> sound isnt working, there is no other way to describe it
[01:30] <coreymon77> nothing is coming out
[01:32] <coreymon77> lspci shows that my card is detected, but no sound is coming out, and yes, my speakers are on, plugged in and sound system is turned on
[01:32] <coreymon77> anyone?
[01:33] <Nyad> hi
[01:33] <genii> coreymon77: What does    lspci | grep Audio       tell you is the soundcard make?
[01:34] <coreymon77> its an sb live
[01:34] <coreymon77> i know that already
[01:35] <coreymon77> but that command gives no output
[01:36] <Kinney> I've just installed Firefox 3 and whenever I fill a checkbox it doesn't show as checked until I change focus to a different part of the page. Is anyone else having this problem?
[01:36] <coreymon77> genii: if this helps, heres my lspci output
[01:36] <coreymon77> genii: http://coreymon77.pastebin.ca/1049702
[01:37] <diceman> hello
[01:37] <diceman> how can i change my splash screen
[01:37] <diceman> on kubuntu hardy heron
[01:37] <diceman> nobody can help me ???!!!
[01:38] <coreymon77> !patience diceman
[01:38] <jals> ok there must be some way to change the font size in dolphin's sidebar
[01:38] <coreymon77> !patience| diceman
[01:38] <coreymon77> genii: any ideas
[01:39] <diceman> okay ubottu
[01:39] <diceman> i relax
[01:39] <genii> coreymon77: Apologies on lag, roommate looking for some papers here he needs
[01:39] <genii> coreymon77: Reading
[01:40] <diceman> ubottu: the channel is often dead here
[01:41] <stdin> diceman: and ubottu is a bot
[01:41] <genii> coreymon77: Does       lsmod | grep emu10k              produce a result?
[01:41] <stdin> !usplash
[01:41] <stdin> !splash
[01:42] <diceman> i'm not under gnome but under kde
[01:42] <coreymon77> genii: http://coreymon77.pastebin.ca/1049704
[01:42] <genii> coreymon77: Reading
[01:42] <diceman> the new version
[01:43] <stdin> !splash
[01:43] <stdin> diceman: ^
[01:44] <coreymon77> genii: and yes, i use pastebin so much that i got my own :P
[01:44] <genii> coreymon77: And you are using OSS as the sound engine and not ALSA?
[01:44] <diceman> KMenu ?
[01:44] <diceman> i don't have it
[01:44] <coreymon77> i have no clue what im using
[01:44] <coreymon77> this is a fresh install
[01:44]  * genii hands stdin some more aspirins
[01:45] <coreymon77> i was forced to reinstall because xorg and kde borked
[01:45] <stdin> diceman: you're on KDE?
[01:45] <diceman> yes
[01:45] <stdin> diceman: see the button with the 'K' on the panel
[01:45] <diceman> yes
[01:45] <stdin> KMenu
[01:45] <coreymon77> genii: so, i have absolutely no clue what the settings are right now
[01:46] <diceman> no there is not Kmenu
[01:47] <genii> coreymon77: Kbutton...System Settings... Sound System... Hardware tab... "Select the Audio Device"   can be autodetect, ALSA, OSS and others. The drivers loaded are for OSS, so see perhaps what it's using in there
[01:47] <stdin> diceman: it IS the KMenu
[01:47] <stdin> the menu with the K
[01:47] <diceman> oh yes
[01:47] <diceman> excuse me
[01:47] <stdin> ;)
[01:48] <diceman> i know now what you called the kmenu
[01:48] <diceman> i think that was a part
[01:48] <coreymon77> genii: its on autodetect
[01:48] <coreymon77> should i change that
[01:48] <coreymon77> ?
[01:49] <genii> coreymon77: Not usually.
[01:49] <diceman> there is no splash screen
[01:49] <diceman> i'm sure
[01:49] <coreymon77> genii: so, its still not working :P
[01:51] <coreymon77> genii: i wonder why the oss drivers are installed, wouldnt it normally be alsa?
[01:51] <Kinney> diceman: sudo apt-get install ksplash
[01:52] <genii> coreymon77: Normally thats what happens for me. There are also some alsa-oss bridge modules loaded sometimes too though that can be confusing.
[01:52] <coreymon77> genii: so, what do i do?
[01:53] <stdin> diceman: on kde3 or kde4?
[01:53] <genii> coreymon77: What does     lspci -nn | grep audio                say is the vendor:device    code?
[01:55] <coreymon77> genii: 02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 [1102:0002] (rev 07)
[01:55] <genii> coreymon77: OK. Give me a minute to look on Google
[01:59] <genii> coreymon77: Not much enlightenment :(
[01:59] <coreymon77> genii: maybe i should fiddle around with the hardware settings
[02:00] <coreymon77> as in, take it off autodetect
[02:00] <diceman> stdin: i have kde 3.5.9
[02:00] <coreymon77> and does it matter what is selected for midi device
[02:00] <coreymon77> ?
[02:00] <genii> coreymon77: Unfortunately I don't know much about these cards
[02:01] <Kinney> diceman: you have to install ksplash
[02:01] <genii> coreymon77: I did see an ancient bug reported in debian (circa 2005) regarding some load order of the drivers but not certain if this problem still exists.
[02:02] <diceman> ksplah ?
[02:02] <coreymon77> genii: so im SOL?
[02:03] <diceman> does it heavy ?
[02:03] <diceman> ksplash
[02:03] <Kinney> diceman: ksplash is the package that will add the KDE splash screen to System Settings
[02:04] <coreymon77> genii: its wierd
[02:04] <genii> coreymon77: There's always a way to get something woking... it's just a matter of being persistent and finding the right resources. I'm not primarily a sound-system expert however
[02:04] <diceman> i have login manager in the system setting already
[02:04] <coreymon77> genii: looking in midi device, they all say ALSA device
[02:04] <diceman> or ksplash do a different thing ?*
[02:05] <coreymon77> genii: every single one in that list says ALSA device at the end
[02:05] <lakis1982> hi ... i had windwos vista and i made a second partition and i installed kubuntu .. when i press the power button the pc starts and gives me a list so that to select which OS i want to start ... at first ita has kubuntu and then windows vista .. how can i change this to show first windows vista and then kubuntu ???
[02:05] <coreymon77> yet your saying i have the oss drivers in this
[02:05] <Kinney> diceman: are you trying to change the login screen or the splash screen?
[02:05] <genii> coreymon77: Perhaps change the Sound System to ALSA and restart the sound server, see if anything develops
[02:05] <coreymon77> lakis1982: you wont want to soon enough, trust us :P
[02:05] <stdin> diceman: then it should be there http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4019/splashrh2.jpg
[02:06] <diceman> the login screen
[02:06] <diceman> hooo
[02:06] <diceman> splash screen and login screen are two differents thing
[02:06] <diceman> excuse me for my  "noobeeing"
[02:06] <lakis1982> i just want to changgge it for my parents that use the ppc because they dont know .. anything ..they just push the button and wait the pc to start
[02:07] <lakis1982> so can i change it ?
[02:07] <Kinney> lakis1982: the order of OS's are stored in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:07] <stdin> diceman: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu#head-4b3b5593ae454ea8991ad90ceb81f453a0e6ab82
[02:07] <coreymon77> genii: nope, still nothing, i press test sound and nothing comes out
[02:07] <`jason> hey
[02:07] <`jason> i was wondering
[02:07] <lakis1982> \hold on please
[02:08] <coreymon77> `jason: so was i :P
[02:08] <Kinney> lakis1982: don't make any changes unless you know what your doing. The easiest thing is to just change the default #
[02:08] <`jason> in ubuntu you can set your desktop effects to high medium or low
[02:08] <lakis1982> so kinney what should i do ?
[02:08] <`jason> so how do i do that
[02:08] <`jason> with kubuntu
[02:08] <lakis1982> how do i change hte default?
[02:09] <Kinney> lakis1982: about 13 lines in you'll see default 0, change that to the number in the list that windows is
[02:09] <Kinney> lakis1982: than as long as they don't press anything it will automatically boot windows
[02:10] <lakis1982> im on root /boot/grub folder
[02:10] <coreymon77> genii: any other ideas?
[02:10] <lakis1982> and i see the menu.lst file
[02:10] <genii> coreymon77: Perhaps try from konsole:     sudo modprobe -r snd-emu10k1; sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1x
[02:10] <lakis1982> and another file named default
[02:10] <genii> coreymon77: There seems to be 2 drivers, one with the "x" at the end
[02:10] <`jason> guys
[02:10] <`jason> in ubuntu you can set your desktop effects to high medium or low
[02:10] <coreymon77> FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[02:10] <`jason> so how do i do that
[02:10] <`jason> with kubuntu
[02:11] <Kinney> lakis1982: don't worry about the default file. You just want to change the default option in menu.lst
[02:11] <genii> coreymon77: Close the mixer, then try again
[02:11] <[Relic]> how can you add something permanently to $PATH and where is that $PATH info actually stored?
[02:11] <lakis1982> so i open now the menu.lst ok ?
[02:11] <genii> coreymon77: You can run it again by alt-f2      kmix
[02:11] <coreymon77> genii: all i have open is kmix
[02:11] <coreymon77> genii: still gives me the same error
[02:11] <`jason> ?
[02:12] <genii> coreymon77: After kmix is closed?
[02:12] <Kinney> lakis1982: yea you need to edit the file with sudo
[02:12] <lakis1982> what should i type?
[02:12] <Tonglebeak> hi, i have a question. i'm currently running gentoo, and got another hard drive that i have mounted and blah blah blah. anyways, i wanted to run the kubuntu install cd (mount -o loop) from gentoo (i can't seem to find any blank CDs), and thought i should be able to do this...but i'm not sure how to go about it. the slave hdd i installed today is where i want kubuntu to go...anyway of doing this?
[02:12] <coreymon77> genii: yup
[02:12] <[Relic]> time to check ksysguard and see if there is a process of kmix already running?
[02:13] <Kinney> lakis1982: it probably already says 0 you need to change it to the number it shows up in the list
[02:13] <diceman> stdin: okay man i understand a lot of things
[02:13] <diceman> thanks
[02:13] <genii> coreymon77: And the Sound System page is also closed?
[02:13] <coreymon77> genii: just closed it, and same error
[02:13] <diceman> i talk english and change my login screen
[02:13] <coreymon77> FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[02:13] <genii> Hmm
[02:15] <genii> coreymon77: Without systematically removing modules until it can unload the emu10k1 module I'm out of immedate ideas
[02:15] <genii> coreymon77: As I said earlier I'm not primarily a sound system debugger
[02:15] <lakis1982> someone told me about grubeditor
[02:15] <coreymon77> maybe disable the sound system in prefs
[02:15] <coreymon77> ?
[02:16] <genii> coreymon77: I'm thinking if anyone can help they are probably in #alsa channel
[02:18] <Kinney> lakis1982: there are a couple grub editors in the repositories if you want to go that route
[02:19] <coreymon77> genii: arent i not using alsa though?
[02:20] <lakis1982> thanks i fixed it
[02:20] <genii> coreymon77: When I search for the emu10k1 drivers it shows them under the alsa-driver tree, eg: /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko       on my particular box
[02:20] <Kinney> lakis1982: manually or through a GUI editor?
[02:20] <Agent_bob> for this in `lsmod | cut -d' ' -f1 | grep snd` ;do modprobe -r $this ;done
[02:21] <coreymon77> genii: so, what does that mean for me
[02:21] <lakis1982> something else please ... can i play games of windows in linux .. i mean games like fifa , assassins creed , grand theft auto  etc ... ???
[02:21] <genii> coreymon77: Basically that my limited knowledge of the sound system means someone else would be better equipped to assist :)
[02:21] <lakis1982> through gui editor i fixed it
[02:22] <genii> coreymon77: If no one in this channel then likely #alsa
[02:22] <Kinney> lakis1982: for windows applications theres Wine, Crossover Office and Cedega, Cedega is the best for gaming but it's commercial and costs money
[02:24] <lakis1982> what do u use?
[02:24] <Kinney> lakis1982: I used to use Cedega but I don't really game on the comp anymore
[02:25] <genii> lakis1982: If you're already dual-booting just keep Windows around for gaming. Many things don't run as expected under wine or cedega or so on
[02:25] <darkdelusions> I currently use wine but do have  cedega installed
[02:26] <darkdelusions> but I am only currently playing wow which is supported under wine
[02:26] <lakis1982> ok
[02:28] <Agent_bob> i thought there was a linux port of wow ?
[02:28] <flaccid> blizzard would never do that
[02:28] <darkdelusions> lakis1982: You best bet is go to http://appdb.winehq.org/ and search for the game and see if its supported
[02:28] <ybit> how do you remove the ubuntu/gnome portion? i installed kubuntu-desktop and now i don't want gnome..
[02:29] <ybit> or gdm
[02:29] <genii> !purekde | ybit
[02:30] <ybit> genii: awesom
[02:30] <genii> ybit: np
[02:30] <flaccid> !stablevideo
[02:30] <flaccid> i knew it didnt exist yet
[02:30] <Agent_bob> !puregnome
[02:30] <Agent_bob> !pureserver
[02:30] <genii> Agent_bob: Yes, it's equal opportunity ;)
[02:31] <Agent_bob> pfft
[02:31] <genii> !purexfce
[02:31] <Agent_bob> hardly
[02:31] <genii> Hmm
[02:31] <genii> You may be right
[02:33] <intelikey> pureserver  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d367eb6eb
[02:35] <genii> Hmm </eggface>
[02:35] <intelikey> and for pure xfce you could just use both of the puregnome + purekde to remove them or which ever you had
[02:35] <intelikey> genii :))
[02:35] <genii> intelikey: Yes, true
[02:35] <genii> intelikey: Weird. It's like you and stdin are on shiftwork or something
[02:36] <flaccid> hey intelikey shift aint finished yet stdin :p
[02:36] <genii> PErhaps i spoke too soon
[02:39] <lakis1982> ti entoli pataw gia na sindethw ws root ?
[02:40] <flaccid> um english only here
[02:40] <genii> !gr
[02:40] <lakis1982> what command do i give to connect as a root ?
[02:41] <genii> lakis1982: You don't
[02:41] <flaccid> !root | lakis1982
[02:42] <lakis1982> i ahve some folders in a local disk
[02:42] <lakis1982> how do i plaec shortcuts on desktop?
[02:42] <lakis1982> how do i place their shortcuts on desktop?
[02:43] <flaccid> right click desktop and i think its shortcut to application
[02:44] <lakis1982> flaccid how ?
[02:44] <lakis1982> i dont find anything
[02:47] <bestpvp> is there a apt-get for pureftpc?
[02:47] <flaccid> lakis1982: this is kde3 ?
[02:47] <genii> lakis1982: The folders in the local disk need to be readable (at least) by your user. And it's the right-click on desktop then Create New...Link to Location. Then you put in the path to the file there or browse to it if you can
[02:48] <flaccid> yep thats it. sorry on kde4 atm..
[02:49] <genii> coreymon77: I see they are running you ragged in #alsa ;)
[02:49] <coreymon77> genii: yup
[02:50] <flaccid> w0a, there is response in #alsa, coool...
[02:50] <gasparin> can anybody tell me how to change the icon on the Application Launcher plasmoid?
[02:50] <gasparin> :-/
[02:50] <gasparin> it changed itself... somehow... and i just want to change it back
[02:50] <genii> gasparin: Perhaps they may know in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:50] <gasparin> ah.. thanks genii
[02:50] <intelikey> !kde4
[02:52] <intelikey> i think that kde4 not having a right click menu for "everything" is a mistake
[02:52] <genii> Context is good
[02:52] <intelikey> that was the one thing that i really liked about kde3
[02:53] <intelikey> but who am i to say such things i don't even use kde# anymore
[02:53] <flaccid> isn't that because devs just aint got there yet with context menus ?
[02:53] <intelikey> flaccid we can only hope
[02:54] <genii> I have one that has context ... it's a cpu load monitor. But it has other weirdness
[02:54] <flaccid> they are adding new things all the time, but its still the stability that concerns me and alot is not the plasma devs fault, its the vendors :(
[02:54] <jhutchins> flaccid: How do you figure that?
[02:54] <genii> Like it wants to stay on top flashing over the screensaver for instance
[02:55] <flaccid> jhutchins: watching mailing lists with bugs/issues in plasma etc. eg. video drivers like restricted
[02:55] <flaccid> so many variables in it
[02:55] <intelikey> so have they started calling it "k4" yet ?     cause in a few years they'll make a real dog    "k9"   :)
[02:55] <flaccid> roflmao
[02:55] <jhutchins> that's nothing to do with kde4's stability though.  I guess it affects the 3D stuff, but it's not KDE.
[02:56] <flaccid> jhutchins: um thats what i said.... and also it does effectively make it unstable
[02:56] <jhutchins> I can see that, ok.
[02:56] <flaccid> and its not just the 3D stuff
[02:56] <flaccid> full kudos to the devs, its a lot of things to deal with that i didn't think about it until i looked in a bit closer
[02:56]  * jhutchins thinks crap bloated programming might have something to do with instability, but maybe it's just the drivers.
[02:57] <intelikey> lol
[02:57] <jhutchins> I mean, 3.5 is stable.
[02:57] <flaccid> its the drivers plus lots of other things that are over the top of my head heh
[02:57] <genii> I'm awaiting the bright brain that makes a kde4 plasmoid wrapper for all the old kde3 applets. that will be some accomplishment
[02:58] <jhutchins> I think it's a lot of fuss over "Oooooh, round corners!".
[02:58] <flaccid> yep thats hectic
[02:58] <flaccid> not really, the underlying concepts are really good UI design/theory imho
[02:58] <flaccid> eg. ZUI etc.
[03:00] <intelikey> who's going to invent the push down to zome mouse ?    i mean three dee desktop needs a three dee rodent, right ?
[03:00] <flaccid> zome mouse?
[03:00] <intelikey> you know if you mash down on the mouse, the cursor goes deeper into the desktop
[03:00] <intelikey> zoome away from you
[03:01] <intelikey> zooms
[03:01] <flaccid> im confused, you talking about the ZUI ?
[03:01] <intelikey> zoom zoom zoom
[03:01] <intelikey> sorry wrong comercial
[03:01] <flaccid> haha
[03:01] <intelikey> ZUI i have not seen so i don't know.
[03:02] <AlphaWolrd56> Hello
[03:02] <flaccid> zooming user interface? zoom out/in
[03:02] <brian_> hi what kde program do i have available to view disk usage on kubuntu
[03:02] <flaccid> hi
[03:02] <intelikey> i'm talking about being able to move the mouse in three dirrections not just two
[03:02] <AlphaWolrd56> Could I get some help with nvidia drivers and kubuntu?
[03:02] <brian_> i thought it was something like kdisk?
[03:02] <Search4Lancer> I'm seeing a lot of talk on the forums about Firefox 3 having hit the repos. However, nobody actually bothers to mention what repo it's available in. Anyone here know?
[03:02] <flaccid> intelikey: the mouse can go in omnidirection already?
[03:03] <genii> !info firefox-3.0
[03:03] <codster> help
[03:03] <intelikey> flaccid no.  it goes up/down  and left/right   needs to go in/out also
[03:03] <codster> i ruined my install :(
[03:03] <coreymon77> Search4Lancer: download it from the site too, just to contribute to the record
[03:03] <genii> Still rc1 apparently
[03:03] <flaccid> intelikey: right 3D, gotya
[03:03] <codster> I went to upgrade and my PC shutdown, almost half way threw im missing some files i have remains of 8.04
[03:03] <flaccid> !info filelight | brian_
[03:04] <flaccid> !info kdirstat | brian_
[03:04] <Search4Lancer> thanks genii, but that doesn't really tell me much... in the way of a repo to get it from
[03:04] <genii> Search4Lancer: Thats the repo: main
[03:04] <codster> is there anyway to replace or find out where i left off in updating?
[03:04] <codster> my PC is partially 7.04 and 8.04 combined
[03:04] <flaccid> codster: continue the upgrade? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:04] <Search4Lancer> well, odd, as I did an apt-get update and it didn't show up
[03:04] <codster> it will still work?
[03:04] <flaccid> yep
[03:05] <intelikey> codster you upgraded to 8.10 ?
[03:05] <codster> 8.10?
[03:05] <codster> the newest one hardy
[03:05] <genii> Search4Lancer: You're using 2 currently?
[03:05] <codster> but im still like inbetween if you know what i mean
[03:05] <Search4Lancer> genii: yes
[03:05] <flaccid> intelikey: hmm thinking about that. just a note to say you should design such a mouse and make a lot of money..
[03:05] <codster> i got remains of 7.04 still,
[03:05] <Search4Lancer> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:05] <brian_> thanks flaccid
[03:06] <flaccid> np
[03:06] <codster> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. i remember reading this
[03:06] <codster> im not sure but i remember you can fix that
[03:06] <codster> with killing Adept?
[03:06] <intelikey> that is 8.4  so what's this? " missing some files i have remains of 8.04"   never mind i caught up with what you were trying to say.
[03:06] <flaccid> pretty much follow what apt says codster
[03:06] <codster> okay
[03:06] <codster> sudo... dpkg?
[03:06] <genii> Search4Lancer: What kubuntu are you on, Hardy?
[03:06] <codster> or just that one command
[03:06] <flaccid> codster: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:07] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:07] <intelikey> prolly needs -f first.
[03:07] <codster> well what am i to do?
[03:07] <flaccid> and do the command intelikey says if it suggests
[03:07] <codster> okay
[03:07] <Search4Lancer> genii: bad question to ask me - I lose track every time, and have no idea how to check. I believe I'm on the most recent, though
[03:07] <codster> one second
[03:07] <flaccid> um follow that ^^ hehe
[03:08] <intelikey> Search4Lancer lsb_release -r
[03:08] <codster> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0198'
[03:08] <codster> thats what it gives me?
[03:08] <flaccid> codster: from what command?
[03:08] <Search4Lancer> yee, thanks intelikey, 7.10
[03:08] <codster> dpkg --configure -a
[03:09] <intelikey> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0198
[03:09] <intelikey> it's a partial file
[03:09] <flaccid> not really what i suggested. [12:06] <flaccid> codster: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | then follow what apt says
[03:09] <genii> !info firefox-3.0 gutsy
[03:09] <codster> okay
[03:09] <genii> Search4Lancer: Doesn't exist for 7.10
[03:09] <flaccid> intelikey: is that partial file the list of updates or like from the upgrade when it broke?
[03:09] <codster> well thats what konsole said to do.
[03:10] <codster> you mean i have to go threw that again?
[03:10] <codster> :(
[03:10] <codster> its still brinning up the DPKG when running thoes update commands
[03:10] <flaccid> um its a corrupt file because its wasnt finished downloading or whatever when you did the upgrade before
[03:10] <flaccid> codster: pastebin the whole output
[03:10] <codster> okay
[03:10] <intelikey> flaccid can't say for sure but probably the file being downloaded when the power went off,  that's my first guess on it anyway
[03:11] <flaccid> intelikey: ok coolio thanks for info
[03:11] <Search4Lancer> genii: fine and well, didn't realize I wasn't on the latest release.... not sure why I'm not, though, but I do see the Full Upgrade button in Adept is enabled. Explains much.
[03:11] <greeg> hi
[03:11] <greeg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmADPVEqU4
[03:11] <flaccid> ops greeg has been spamming channels all day, ban please
[03:11] <genii> Search4Lancer: np
[03:11] <codster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21027/
[03:12] <flaccid> codster: and now run sudo dpkg --configure -a and let us know the output in pastebin
[03:13] <codster> okay
[03:13] <flaccid> also a good idea to do just straight paste including copying the command you ran and the prompt. (it can't copy the password)
[03:13] <codster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21028/
[03:13] <codster> i know
[03:13] <codster> lol
[03:14] <codster> its just the last one i had thoes list of updates
[03:14] <codster> didnt wanna take up space and time.
[03:14] <flaccid> !enter | codster
[03:14] <codster> sorry
[03:14] <intelikey> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0198
[03:14] <flaccid> codster: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0199 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:15] <codster> okay and that will pickup to where i left off?
[03:15] <flaccid> lets see..
[03:15] <intelikey> he'll have to  sudo dpkg --configure -a  first, before apt will run correctly
[03:15] <ivan_> hello, i installe my kubuntu and now i cant open windows where i have very important files what can i do>???
[03:15] <codster> when i do that it does not ask me for a pass
[03:15] <codster> it just sets in a new line
[03:15] <flaccid> sudo keeps pass for a period of time so you don't have to re-enter
[03:15] <codster> okay lol,
[03:16] <flaccid> ivan_: whats the error
[03:16] <flaccid> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0199 && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:16] <flaccid> intelikey: is it ok to remove /var/lib/dpkg/updates/* ?
[03:16] <ivan_> flaccid, i dont know it sends me to a sytem recovery thing and i cant fix it anyway
[03:17] <intelikey> ivan_ "cant open windows" ???   you mean windows won't boot ?
[03:17] <flaccid> ivan_: need more information
[03:17] <codster> wow, its giving me one file after the other "099/0200" etc.etc now im @ 0201
[03:17] <codster> i have to correct all of them i guess?
[03:18] <flaccid> um codster sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*
[03:18] <flaccid> i assume so
[03:18] <ivan_> intelikey, yes it wont boot it srend me to a system recovery thing where i try to recover my windows and simply i cant recover it, all the options they gicve me wont work
[03:18] <codster> cannot remove its a directory
[03:18] <bestpvp> is there a apt-get for pureftpc?
[03:18] <bestpvp> pureftpd
[03:18] <intelikey> codster you left off the * at the end
[03:19] <codster> ohh
[03:19] <codster> lol
[03:19] <flaccid> bestpvp: its in the repos
[03:19] <codster> okay that is done,
[03:19] <flaccid> i think my command was ok :o
[03:19] <codster> now from the top?
[03:19] <codster> sudo dpkg
[03:19] <flaccid> ivan_: microsoft windows?
[03:19] <ivan_> flaccid, yes
[03:19] <flaccid> ivan_: windows support in ##windows not here
[03:19] <codster> hehehe thanks flaccid
[03:19] <codster> and intelikey
[03:19] <flaccid> np. intelikey is the man here..
[03:20] <intelikey> ivan_ first boot linux   and try to mount the ntfs file system so you can save your "important files" to the linux system   then work on trying to get windows working.
[03:20] <codster> i known him befor, i was @ Kubuntu channel as Elite101
[03:20] <ivan_> intelikey, i dont care about windows i just want to have my curriculum, how do i mount the ntfs system to my linux??
[03:21] <intelikey> ivan_ is linux running now ?
[03:21] <codster> lol its just funny i have a Half and Half OS right now, of 2 diffrent versions. althou i was running into some problems with Adept
[03:21] <ivan_> intelikey, yes
[03:21] <flaccid> ivan_: disks and filesystems in system settings and click enable on the windows fs
[03:21] <intelikey> ivan_ do you know how to use a "pastebin" ?
[03:22] <ivan_> intelikey, yes
[03:22] <intelikey> flaccid it's unlikely it will be clean   so probably wont mount without force
[03:22] <flaccid> intelikey: ah in those cases you need to get windows to scan it? is there a scan yet in linux ?
[03:22] <intelikey> ivan_ you can try what flaccid said.   if it fails pastebin the output of    cat /proc/partitions     for me please.
[03:23] <intelikey> flaccid he can't get windows to do anything.  that's the problem.
[03:23] <flaccid> doesn't sound like hes tried to mount it yet in linux but
[03:24] <intelikey> correct.
[03:24] <ivan_> intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21029/
[03:24] <ivan_> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21029/
[03:24] <intelikey> but he has tried to recover it from the windows repair console...
[03:24] <flaccid> yeah but didn't really know the problem there
[03:25] <flaccid> how do you force mount anyway in these conditions?
[03:25] <codster> When my windows went bad, i just poped in the CD and i hit R for repair, it looks as if it was re-installing, but all it did was clean the Files and replaced them
[03:25] <intelikey> ivan_ type in a konsole    df -h     and pastebin the output
[03:25] <codster> it ran perfectly after that!
[03:26] <flaccid> depends what the *actual* problem is
[03:26] <codster> all my Files/Docuements program etc,etc where all in tacked, as if nothing had happend
[03:26] <flaccid> codster: yeah user doesn't want windows anymore anyway
[03:26] <codster> ohh
[03:26] <codster> okay i see,
[03:27] <ivan_> flaccid, howintelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21030/
[03:27] <ivan_> flaccid, sorry how do you suggets i mount them??
[03:27] <ivan_> intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21030/
[03:27] <flaccid> ivan_: is it this one? /dev/sda1             108G  103G  4.5G  96% /media/disk
[03:28] <ivan_> flaccid, yes
[03:28] <intelikey> ivan_ ls /media/disk   and see what is there ?
[03:28] <flaccid> ivan_: its mounted and files are in /media/disk ..
[03:28] <codster> once i update to 8.4, then i can finnally get my Mac OSX theme. all spiffy and nice :D
[03:28] <intelikey> ivan_ that is lower case L   ls /media/disk
[03:28] <flaccid> codster: what kind of theme?
[03:29] <codster> um
[03:29] <codster> not sure yet
[03:29] <codster> Ive seen some on Youtube that look pretty promising,
[03:29] <ivan_> intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21032/
[03:29] <flaccid> fair enough
[03:29] <flaccid> ivan_: so you can copy your files out of there if you like...
[03:29] <ivan_> intelitek, how do i acces that??
[03:29] <codster> Ill just try some out, if not i will get a Windows Vista, Aero without the bloatware :D
[03:30] <intelikey> ivan_ ok.   use konqueror  and go get your files from /media/disk/
[03:30] <flaccid> ivan_: /media/disk in address bar in konqueror or dolphin for example
[03:30] <ivan_> wait i messed it up
[03:31] <intelikey> flaccid he's not got any place to put them.
[03:31] <intelikey> revisit the df output
[03:31] <ivan_> intelitek, omg i did the most stupid thing on earth im doing this on my stable comp all the codes i gave are not the correct ones, let me pabstein the real ones
[03:32] <intelikey> or then again....
[03:32] <javier> intelitek, im ivan
[03:32]  * intelikey headdesk
[03:32] <brian_> is it difficult to have kde 3 and 4 on the machine at the same time
[03:32] <flaccid> depends what he needs and if he ivan_ had somewhere to put them like a dvd burner for eg.
[03:32] <brian_> any docs on this?
[03:32] <brian_> looks like i need a backport
[03:32] <flaccid> brian_: they are separate
[03:33] <flaccid> !kde4 | brian_
[03:34] <intelikey> javier ok.  pastebin the output of#   df -h ;cat /proc/partitions ;sudo fdisk -l
[03:35] <javier> intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21034/
[03:36] <intelikey> no fdisk -l   in that
[03:36] <javier> intelitek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21035/
[03:37] <flaccid> 2x ntfs hmm
[03:37] <genii> javier: You should probably add a letter or two more of his name before hitting the Tab key
[03:37] <intelikey> javier ok.  were your files on   c:   or d:  ?
[03:38] <javier> intelitek, c:
[03:38] <javier> genii, what u mean??
[03:39] <intelikey> javier ok.    try this.    sudo mount -sr /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:39] <genii> javier: intelitek <> intelikey
[03:40] <codster> thank youuu!!! its almost doneee!! lol
[03:40] <codster> i will be running ful 8.4
[03:40] <codster> :D
[03:40] <intelikey> javier what did it say ?
[03:40] <javier> intelitek, nothing
[03:41] <ubuntu> need a command help
[03:41] <intelikey> javier good.   use konqueror and browse /mnt
[03:41] <flaccid> nice
[03:41] <intelikey> flaccid shalom
[03:41] <codster> wow firefox 3.0?
[03:41] <codster> it already has it included
[03:41] <codster> nice
[03:41] <intelikey> oh thought that was nite
[03:41] <flaccid> i can't even remember what shalom means :o
[03:41] <intelikey> peace
[03:41] <flaccid> ah yeah
[03:42] <flaccid> is that jewish or something?
[03:42] <intelikey> yeah
[03:42] <ubuntu> i need to edit the fstab lines on a live cd, to add in a 160 gb drive, so i can delete a worm.  i don't remeber the correct command though. sudo ??? "./fstab"
[03:42] <flaccid> coolio
[03:42] <ubuntu> shalom is arabic for peace
[03:42] <coreymon77> codster: still download it from mozillas site though, because apt downloads dont count towards the record count
[03:42] <flaccid> ah arabic
[03:42] <flaccid> ubuntu:  kdesudo /etc/fstab or use disks & filesystems in system settings
[03:42] <intelikey> actually salem is arabic   but no mattere
[03:43] <flaccid> yeah thats what i thought
[03:43] <coreymon77> ubuntu: shalom is hebrew
[03:43] <flaccid> ah well im aussie, i'll just say 'peace mate' :o
[03:43] <codster> ohh yeah!
[03:43] <codster> thats true corey thats tomarrow! 1pm! :D
[03:43] <flaccid> speaking of brews i;ll just grab another coffee
[03:43] <javier> intelitek, ok i browsed it now??
[03:43] <coreymon77> codster: no, it ends tomorrow at one
[03:43] <intelikey> ubuntu you dont need to edit fstab on the live CD  you can specify mount options on the command line.
[03:43] <coreymon77> codster: its on now
[03:44] <intelikey> javier are your files there ?
[03:44] <coreymon77> codster: download day is now, it ends tomorrow at 1
[03:44] <coreymon77> codster: so download now
[03:44] <javier> i cant find document and settings
[03:44] <ubuntu> coreymon: you sure?
[03:44] <codster> ohh i did already
[03:44] <flaccid> javier: possibly on the other ntfs fs ?
[03:44] <codster> ill download 3 more?
[03:44] <codster> wait you guys want some? ill download for you guys too
[03:45] <ubuntu> intelikey: ok, it's been along time sense i last used linux. baby steps please and thanks
[03:45] <javier> flaccid, sda2??
[03:45] <coreymon77> codster: dont
[03:45] <intelikey> javier ok we may have the wrong partition.  back out of /mnt in konqueror.   and run this command in the konsole#   sudo umount /mnt ;sudo mount -sr /dev/sda2 /mnt
[03:45] <coreymon77> codster: it wont count
[03:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> do *we* want some?  we get ours from the repositories (most of us i would say)
[03:46] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Laptop: that doesnt count towards the download day record count
[03:46] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Laptop: install from the repos, but atleast download from the site once
[03:46] <intelikey> ubuntu ok.   man mount   look at the file system specific options    and then use the   -o switch to add the ones you want.
[03:47] <javier> intelitek, there is a folder called lost+found , but it says i cant acces it
[03:47] <pauljohn> I'm running 4.1 beta on Ubuntu Hardy. Works OK.  I  have a question about using compiz.
[03:47] <intelikey> javier you have formated the partition to ext2/3
[03:47] <flaccid> pauljohn: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[03:48] <intelikey> javier or possably rieserfs.  either way it's no longer ntfs on sda2
[03:48] <pauljohn> OK,bye!
[03:48] <javier> intelitek, and all the files are lost??
[03:48] <intelikey> javier yep.
[03:48] <javier> intelitek, nothing i can possibly do??
[03:49] <flaccid> you could employ a data recovery specialist or buy some data recovery software
[03:49] <intelikey> javier if there not on the other partition,   as an amiture.   only one thing.  pay a professional   and hope.
[03:49] <flaccid> and either way its expensive as
[03:49] <codster> javier, its intelikey, this is so he can see your red text
[03:50] <javier> intelikey, no recovery software in linux, i need that curriculum for tomorrow morning
[03:50] <intelikey> javier lets look one more time on the other fs.  back konqueror out of there.     sudo umount /mnt  ;sudo mount -sr /dev/sda1 /mnt      and look again.
[03:51] <flaccid> javier: i think you are out of options.
[03:51] <flaccid> yeah double check thats its not on those filesystems first /me does a backup ; excuse the pun
[03:51] <intelikey> javier there is recovery software but the thing is that you have "over writen" things already.  the ext2fs makes superblocks ever so often from one end of the fs to the other.
[03:54] <ubuntu> intelikey: ok, i read the -t options, and i am lost.  its a nfs(that ntfs, or windows vis-ugh-ta, right?) so i just use the line(w/o quotes) "mount -t nfs"?
[03:54]  * Daisuke_Laptop pokes intelitek
[03:54] <javier> intelikey, i can give it a try
[03:54] <flaccid> it can probably do it with no switches ubuntu
[03:54] <intelikey> now ubuntu i'll post you an example or two.     sudo mount -o umask=0,rw /dev/hdd3 /mnt -t vfat      or    sudo mount -o uid=1001,gid=0 -t affs /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[03:55] <flaccid> i find it easier to add to fstab and then just mount -a or mount /media/mountpoint ..
[03:55] <flaccid> still i think ntfs can just do sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 for example
[03:56] <javier> intelikey how can i send you an image of how sda1 works, and wen i start windows vista the loader in the bottom do work but then it goes to that recovery thing
[03:56] <ubuntu> intelikey flaccid: all i'm looking for is a one time mount, on sda1.  i try to automount it, and it doesn't cyting an error in fstab.
[03:56] <intelikey> ubuntu   usdo mount -t ntfs -o fmask=111,dmask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:57] <ubuntu> intelikey: thnks(the first parts spelled wrong i'm assuming
[03:57] <flaccid> ubuntu: thats what we advised :)
[03:58] <flaccid> !ntfs | ubuntu if you want some docs on it as well
[03:58] <intelikey> javier it does that because the boot fs (C:) is there but the data fs (D:) is now gone and it can't find your user documents settings
[03:58] <intelikey> ubuntu yes typo
[03:58] <javier> intelikey what recovery program i need??
[03:59] <ubuntu> intelikey: uh-oh. heres where the fun begins.  mount returned wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1...
[03:59] <intelikey> javier  you can try "testdisk"  in your linux system   but i'm doubtful that you will have much luck with an fs that is over writen.  i never did.
[04:00] <flaccid> javier: easy recovery professional is one of the best, is commercial and expensive
[04:00] <intelikey> ubuntu pastebin the output of    sudo fdisk -l
[04:00] <flaccid> ubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)
[04:02] <javier> intelikey, how do i get testdisk
[04:02] <intelikey> javier the lesson that comes from all this is simple.  "there is no substitute for keeping backups"
[04:02] <intelikey> javier sudo apt-get install testdisk
[04:02] <javier> intelikey yup
[04:02] <xiaden> http://pastebin.com/m81b9e98 intelikey
[04:02] <javier> intelikey, couldnt find the package
[04:03] <xiaden> flaccid: whatcha mean?
[04:03] <flaccid> xiaden: about what
[04:03] <intelikey> -:- SignOff root: #kubuntu (Nick collision from services.)
 ubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)
[04:04] <intelikey> timed that just right...
[04:04] <intelikey> javier hmmm.
[04:04] <intelikey> !info testdisk
[04:04] <xiaden> flaccid ubuntu: this is why disks & filesystems is easier with one click :)
[04:04] <flaccid> oh nick changed. yeah um the gui can do it for you.
[04:04] <intelikey> javier it's in the universe repo
[04:05] <flaccid> yeah my first reponse to your question xiaden [12:42] <flaccid> ubuntu:  kdesudo /etc/fstab or use disks & filesystems in system settings
[04:06] <flaccid> should just be able to click on enable on the filesystem in there
[04:06] <xiaden> oh. looking that up right now =:P
[04:06] <codster> i see compiz-KDE but not fusion?
[04:06] <codster> is taht the window manager i should get for KDE?
[04:06] <flaccid> codster: what are you trying to achieve?
[04:07] <codster> Mac OSX theme :P
[04:07] <flaccid> not sure what this has to do with themes
[04:07] <intelikey> xiaden    file /dev/sda1
[04:07] <codster> thats what you need is Compiz for themes?
[04:08] <codster> i also have emerald too,
[04:08] <flaccid> codster: you don't need anything for themes. still depends what kind of theme
[04:08] <xiaden> intelikey: /dev/sda1: block special (8/1)
[04:08] <codster> ohh
[04:08] <codster> i see,
[04:08] <xiaden> flaccid: the dis and filesystem doesn't give me an enable option when i clikc on the HD partition.
[04:08] <intelikey> xiaden    file -s /dev/sda1    sorry.
[04:08] <mike-kubuntu> nomatter what i do i can't get kaffiene to notice that libdvdcss2 is installed on my system
[04:08] <flaccid> xiaden: go into administrator mode or run it under kdesudo systemsettings
[04:09] <flaccid> mike-kubuntu: ubuntu release?
[04:09] <xiaden> flaccid: i am
[04:09] <xiaden> intelikey: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission
[04:09] <flaccid> xiaden: sounds like a bug :(
[04:09] <mike-kubuntu> faccid: 8.04
[04:09] <xiaden> =P vistas a b*
[04:09] <intelikey> flaccid no it sounds like the fs is hosed.  look at his output of file
[04:09] <flaccid> xiaden: its a button below that says enable. i wouldn't mind having a look at a screenshot if you can provide
[04:10] <flaccid> oh yeah
[04:10] <intelikey> xiaden one more time just to make sure.    sudo file -s /dev/sda1
[04:10] <xiaden> umm. can't save it =P
[04:10] <flaccid> intelikey: actually, why do you say that?
[04:10] <intelikey> wait.
[04:10] <flaccid> looks fine?
[04:10] <xiaden> intelikey: /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80)
[04:10] <flaccid> xiaden: why can't save?
[04:11] <intelikey> ok that's better.
[04:11] <xiaden> no place to save... i'll try
[04:11] <flaccid> what command was that from?
[04:11] <xiaden> =P nvm
[04:11] <flaccid> ah i see, need sudo for the extra info
[04:11] <intelikey> flaccid it's just wierd permissions   user can write but not read to the device   that's bad   but not the issue.
[04:12] <flaccid> i think i have the same perms on these things on my system
[04:12] <flaccid> xiaden: pastebin output of sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:12] <mike-kubuntu> grr, this has happened before as well
[04:12] <intelikey> i can't imagine it.  any user could wipe out the entire fs without root clearance....    yuch
[04:12] <mike-kubuntu> before i solved it with a simple dpkg-reconfigue kaffeine
[04:12] <mike-kubuntu> but that doesn't seem to do the trick this time
[04:12] <flaccid> mike-kubuntu: need a dif package
[04:13] <flaccid> !info libdvdread3 | mike-kubuntu
[04:13] <intelikey> no device should ever need world writability
[04:13] <intelikey> without readability anyway
[04:14] <flaccid> intelikey: must of missed the message on those perms. what was the octals on it?
[04:14] <mike-kubuntu> flaccid: i'm using the one from the medibuntu repo's, i've tried replacing it with the one mentioned in the error box, libdvdreade3 is already installed and the newest version
[04:14] <flaccid> not sure the problem then
[04:14] <javier> intelikey, i found my file on a music cd i burned, i dont know how it got there
[04:14] <intelikey> flaccid   <xiaden> intelikey: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission
[04:14] <flaccid> check bugs mike-kubuntu
[04:14] <bestpvp> how do i update gnome compression manager to where it will support rar files?
[04:14] <flaccid> intelikey: thats normal from what i can see
[04:15] <flaccid> i have that as well
[04:15] <flaccid> flaccid@lister:~$ ls -l /dev/sda1
[04:15] <intelikey> flaccid that's a security hole.
[04:15] <flaccid> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-06-18 20:45 /dev/sda1
[04:15] <xiaden> intelikey: lol, don't have to paistebin. no outputs O_o
[04:15] <flaccid> oops sorry about the flood!
[04:15] <flaccid> xiaden: it mounted then goto /media/sda1
[04:16] <flaccid> ie. xiaden check mount | grep sda1
[04:17] <intelikey> flaccid  "brw-rw----" that permission would not be "writable, no read permission"   that would either be "can read can write" or "no access"   depending on the user/group
[04:17] <javier> intelikey, now that im partially safe i can yo help me with some other problems
[04:17] <intelikey> javier i'll try.
[04:18] <coreymon77> alright guys, question
[04:18] <bestpvp> there a good archive manager for ubuntu?
[04:18] <coreymon77> my ipod is a mac formatted hfs+ file system ipod
[04:18] <xiaden> =P mk
[04:18] <flaccid> intelikey: well it just must be a basic summary with file -s /dev/sda1 which returns on mine: /dev/sda1: writable, no read permission
[04:18] <coreymon77> until my mac comes back from repairs, i want to be able to add stuff to my ipod in kubuntu
[04:19] <xiaden> now i just need to change the permissions... i know my vista info... is it doable? (intelikey flaccid)
[04:19] <mike-kubuntu> flaccid: i see it mentioned but no solutions, only see it outright mentioned in a bug report under bug 103173 thats actually about totem-xine not kaffeine
[04:19] <coreymon77> all the ipod managers ive tried give me the error that my ipod is mounted as a read only file system
[04:19] <intelikey> flaccid hmmm odd.
[04:19] <flaccid> bestpvp: ark
[04:19] <coreymon77> linux has gotta be able to write to hfs+ somehow
[04:19] <coreymon77> how can i do this?
[04:19] <flaccid> xiaden: thats why you put it in fstab as per the link before from !ntfs
[04:20] <intelikey> my user gets  /dev/hda: x86 boot sector, LInux i386 boot LOader   but i dont use partitions
[04:20] <bestpvp> can i apt-get it?
[04:20] <flaccid> mike-kubuntu: could be related, but i would encourage submitting another one and see what they do about it. a lot of people have reported this one
[04:20] <javier> intelikey, my screen is reduces, i dont know how to explain but my bottom pannel is shorter than the screen and is lifte from the bottom of the screen
[04:21] <mike-kubuntu> flaccid: k
[04:21] <flaccid> coreymon77: lots on google
[04:21] <intelikey> xiaden you can change permissions on the fly  yes.   sorry i was sidetracked.    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mountpoint    <<< translate mountpoint
[04:21] <moosah> Hi I have a Gateway C140XL with ATI mobility radeon 2300 HD and I was trying to install Kubuntu KDE4 remix and the CD loads and everything... it even shows me the text right before it tries to start X but then nothing happens.. what could be wrong and how do I fix it?
[04:21] <xiaden> flaccid: i get bashed trying kdesudo command
[04:22] <xiaden> err sorry
[04:22] <flaccid> bashed?
[04:22] <xiaden> flaccid
[04:22] <intelikey> javier is that a laptop ?
[04:22] <xiaden> flaccid: i get a bash error doing that kdesudo "/etc/fstab" my box got moved up a little =P
[04:23] <flaccid> moosah: most likely video driver problem with that card. you can try the safe graphics mode, alternate cd or even changing xorg.conf on the fly
[04:23] <intelikey> just remount it xiaden
[04:23] <codster> I have a Mac OSX theme with multiple folders it says GTk2.0
[04:23] <flaccid> xiaden: if there is an error, don't tell us you have an error, just tell the error
[04:23] <intelikey> xiaden you can change permissions on the fly  yes.   sorry i was sidetracked.    sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mountpoint    <<< translate mountpoint    {repost}
[04:23] <codster> how to i add them into the theme manager so i can have all the neat things?
[04:23] <moosah> flaccid, where can I readup on those options?
[04:23] <flaccid> codster: gtk is gnome not kde
[04:23] <codster> well on KDE
[04:23] <codster> it has a GTK thing.
[04:24] <flaccid> !alternate | moosah
[04:24] <codster> GtK stills and fonts
[04:24] <codster> styles
[04:24] <intelikey> javier ?
[04:24] <flaccid> moosah: safe graphics mode is from the menu on boot and the last one is quite manual...
[04:24] <flaccid> codster: yes but not 'GTK themes'
[04:24] <codster> but its for KDE thou
[04:24] <flaccid> which are usually metatcity or some other thing
[04:25] <flaccid> um, link?
[04:25] <xiaden> intelikey: translate? to dev/sda1 ight? that doesn't change the permissions at all.
[04:25] <codster> ohh metacity
[04:25] <codster> i dont have a link but it has that too
[04:25] <codster> in another folder,
[04:25] <xiaden> intelikey: wait, acutally, it made them forbidden to all but owner, and owner can read only =P
[04:25] <apollo2011> I have just setup a webserer on 8.04 that hosts Clutch. I can access it perfectly on my LAN, but I cannot access it using my external IP Address. I have set up apache serers before and accessed them externally, just not with this new 2wire router I have. The port forwarding seems to be set up right, but its not working. Is it possible the default settings on apache are bloking the connections from the external ip address
[04:25] <intelikey> xiaden no to the place where you have /dev/sda1 mounted already
[04:25] <flaccid> i don't know what you are trying to install. still its best to read the doco it comes with codster
[04:25] <moosah> flaccid, thanks!  I'll go try that
[04:26] <xiaden> intelikey: so /media/sda1 =P
[04:26] <intelikey> xiaden like /mnt  or /media/disk  or something like that where the fs is mounted    the mountpoint
[04:26] <flaccid> apollo2011: you need check out the Allow directive in your apache configuration (at least)
[04:26] <intelikey> xiaden yes
[04:26] <codster> i dont understand ther eis nothing to read
[04:26] <codster> its just a folder with files
[04:26] <flaccid> codster: where did you get this folder with files, and there should be doco in at least 1 of the files otherwise the devs suck..
[04:27] <xiaden> intelikey: i still don't have access permissions.
[04:27] <codster> kde-loog
[04:27] <flaccid> eg. README or INSTALL
[04:27] <codster> look
[04:27] <codster> nothing
[04:27] <flaccid> codster: if its on kde-look then there is a link
[04:27] <intelikey> xiaden do:   mount | grep sda1
[04:27] <intelikey> and show me.
[04:27] <intelikey> it
[04:27] <codster> one second
[04:28] <intelikey> to me.
[04:28] <xiaden> intelikey:  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,umask=000)
[04:28] <intelikey> and you don't have permission to that ?   non-sense
[04:28] <intelikey> xiaden how are you trying to access it ?
[04:28] <flaccid> xiaden: can you pastebin ls -l /media/sda1 ?
[04:29] <intelikey> flaccid you want the file in /media/sda1 ?    if not add -d
[04:29] <codster> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/mac+theme?content=80135
[04:29] <codster> right there
[04:29] <flaccid> intelikey: not sure what you mean
[04:29] <codster> which one outta these could i use? http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php
[04:30] <intelikey> ls -ld /media/sda1
[04:30] <codster> these terms are confusing, Compiz Fusion/GTk im a little lost
[04:30] <xiaden> http://pastebin.com/d430741ff
[04:30] <intelikey> can post that in here it will return one line
[04:30] <flaccid> intelikey: oh i wanted to look inside of the mountpoint
[04:31] <intelikey> we didn't get too though...
[04:31] <xiaden> first one was perm. denied, this one's dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda1
[04:31] <flaccid> codster: ok so its a compiz theme. goto #compiz-fusion and ask how to install
[04:31] <xiaden> flaccid intelikey: first one was perm. denied, this one's dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda1
[04:31] <flaccid> i forget intelikey, whats umask 000 do ?
[04:31] <codster> well i have another theme thats in emerald
[04:32] <codster> i imported it but it wont let me install it? there is multiple themes there and i cant install them i tried clicking everything
[04:32] <flaccid> codster: i guess you add it via emerald, but im not sure
[04:32] <flaccid> codster: #compiz-fusion
[04:32] <xiaden> flaccid: it won't let me upload screenshots to photobucket =P
[04:32] <intelikey> xiaden o.O     what about ntfs have they ******up ?    mount says it's umask=000 and that's not at all umask=000
[04:33] <flaccid> xiaden: all good. in this case i recommend adding it to fstab and using the users option for user mount
[04:33] <intelikey> xiaden chmod 777 /media/sda1
[04:33] <intelikey> sudo that   ^
[04:33] <flaccid> you might need to unmount first ?
[04:33] <apollo2011> flaccid: would that be set in a way that could block external traffic by default? I haven't done anything to the config...
[04:34] <xiaden> intelikey: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/sda1': Read-only file system
[04:34] <genii> Yay! Launchpad is back up!
[04:34] <xiaden> still no diff permissions =P
[04:34] <flaccid> apollo2011: its authorisation and i can't remember what the configuration is by default. its always best to check apache logs to find out why. if this is public URI, give me the link
[04:35] <flaccid> can't change perms on ntfs
[04:35] <intelikey> xiaden ok.   i don't know anything at all about the new "mount" command.   everything i'm used to says that your system is acting extreemly wierd.
[04:35] <codster> no help @ compiz-fusion this kinda sucks
[04:35] <intelikey> so i'm out.
[04:35] <apollo2011> flaccid: you can try it, my DynDNS is apollo2011.homelinux.org
[04:35] <apollo2011> if it works, it would give the normal apache index.htm saying "It Works!"
[04:36] <flaccid> codster: google how to install a compiz theme...
[04:36] <codster> i tried everything like that
[04:36] <apollo2011> so far I just get it sitting there until it times out
[04:36] <codster> but it only brings me to forums that are empty
[04:36] <flaccid> maybe its not for compiz fusion
[04:36] <codster> or just random themse
[04:36] <codster> its not
[04:36] <codster> its for emerald
[04:36] <xiaden> mk
[04:36] <xiaden> well, back to the drawing boards =P
[04:36] <schmitty> i was making some changes and now all inactive windows fade transparent which i don't want. I can't where to correct this. Does anyone know how? Is there maybe a way that i can reset everything?
[04:37] <flaccid> xiaden intelikey, this is the options you need   rw,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[04:37] <intelikey> flaccid what the hell is going on with his mount of /dev/sda1 ?   mount reports >>> <xiaden> intelikey:  /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,umask=000) <<<  and ls reports that mount is lying the perms are really umask=177  and it's mounted ro   ?
[04:37] <flaccid> intelikey: as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . i think the problem is ntfs takes different masks to normal..
[04:37] <codster> everytime i search its always Ubuntu and not Kubuntu
[04:37] <intelikey> flaccid umask should set both f and d the same  no ?
[04:38] <flaccid> intelikey: not sure, not my forte..
[04:39] <xiaden> flaccid, intelikey
[04:39] <intelikey> xiaden lets try one more command going on what flaccid said.    sudo mount -o remount,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,rw /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ntfs
[04:39] <xiaden> mk =P
[04:39] <intelikey> maybe i'll learn something....
[04:39] <flaccid> codster: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=how+to+install+emerald+themes+compiz&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:40] <javier> intelikey, yes im using a laptop
[04:40] <xiaden> intelikey, flaccid: still a no go =[
[04:40] <intelikey> javier did you by any chance, in the bios settings tell it to "not streach" the display ?
[04:41] <flaccid> xiaden: did it put anything in /var/log/messages about it?
[04:41] <javier> intelikey, nope, should i restart and modify that??
[04:41] <kalorin_> has anyone figured out if you can turn off the kickoff bar iwth kde4?
[04:41] <intelikey> javier i had that happen one time and that was the answer.  i reset it to  "streach display" and all was well again.
[04:41] <kalorin_> I'd like to just lose it to be honest nad put some widgets on my desktop
[04:41] <kalorin_> it doesn't size well when it's on the side of the screen anywya
[04:41] <javier> intelikey, ok be back in a sec im gonna try it
[04:41] <flaccid> xiaden: my laste suggestion is put it in fstab and then add users option then change the mountpoint to be owned by you and chmod 777 it then mount it (with the options i added just then as well)
[04:42] <flaccid> kalorin_: #kubuntu-kde4
[04:42] <kalorin_> k tahnks
[04:42] <codster> they are having the same problem i am having when u import it it wont install the theme
[04:42] <xiaden> flaccid: no message.
[04:42] <flaccid> no message?
[04:43] <xiaden> flaccid: last messages out of messages are:
[04:43] <flaccid> codster: sounds like a bug then
[04:43] <intelikey> historicly you can do anything with mount on the command line that you can do in the fstab and a few things more... but xiaden's system is not following historic behaviour
[04:43] <xiaden> http://pastebin.com/d77ea9dc6
[04:43] <flaccid> gotya
[04:43] <codster> this doesnt happen to do with the fact i upgraded?
[04:44] <codster> i have compiz but icant see it
[04:44] <flaccid> codster: i don't see how. i mean compiz-fusion/emerald are not part of kubuntu anyway. you have to take this up with them..
[04:44] <xcess> flaccid, Alright so the safe mode worked and I got into the KDM
[04:44] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | codster
[04:44] <flaccid> xcess: cool
[04:44] <intelikey> xiaden however.  you can use  "kdesu konqueror "   and access it anyway     (i hope)
[04:44] <xcess> but my wireless card or any other hardware doesnt work...
[04:44] <codster> i installed it
[04:45] <xiaden> intelikey: interesting side note =P http://pastebin.com/d5b271a6
[04:45] <xcess> flaccid, If I choose to install it, will the wireless card work?
[04:45] <flaccid> !wireless | xcess
[04:45] <xiaden> thats outof the syslog
[04:45] <flaccid> xcess: you need to check if its supported first
[04:45] <xiaden> intelikey: and delete one file off the root of the drive?
[04:46] <flaccid> xiaden: looks like intelikey could be right on the problem with the fs theory
[04:46] <xiaden> flaccid , intelikey, on kdesu konqueror i get:
[04:47] <xiaden> http://pastebin.com/dd2b55d5
[04:48] <intelikey> xiaden those are non-errors   it opened a konqueror window didn't it ?
[04:48] <javier> intelikey, i didnt find that option, but i dont think is that, if i move windows to the section where it is supposed to be outside the screen i can see them, and it all has a lue background
[04:48] <xiaden> intelikey: yhea, i just got into my C: *dance dance dance*
[04:49] <xiaden> now to remeber what the hell that file was called... dang.
[04:49] <flaccid> in write mode?
[04:49] <intelikey> javier hmmm ok.   well i'm not much on fixing xorg xrandr errors.   so i'll defer you to someone else on that. flaccid maybe.
[04:50] <javier> ok thanks
[04:50] <xiaden> flaccid: idk.. one second.
[04:50] <flaccid> intelikey: hang on what happen with xiaden?
[04:50] <javier> flaccid, can you help me with a resolution problem im having??
[04:50] <flaccid> xiaden: you mounted it ro long time ago here..
[04:50] <flaccid> javier: sure
[04:50] <xiaden> zflaccid: no
[04:51] <flaccid> huh
[04:51] <xiaden> flaccid intelikey: i can't delete
[04:51] <intelikey> flaccid ?  happened ?    i had him start konq as root so he would have permission.
[04:51] <flaccid> xiaden: correct. we had it mounted read-only early on here...
[04:51] <javier> flaccid, its better if i show you a screen photo i took
[04:51] <intelikey> flaccid remounted rw tho
[04:51] <flaccid> intelikey: what made it remount rw ?
[04:52] <intelikey> it should.   but obviously things are not "kosher"
[04:52] <intelikey> flaccid the mount command.
[04:52] <intelikey> i'll repost it.
[04:52] <intelikey> xiaden lets try one more command going on what flaccid said.    sudo mount -o remount,fmask=0111,dmask=0000,rw /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -t ntfs
[04:52] <intelikey>             ^  that
[04:52] <flaccid> sorry wouldn't mind seeing ls -ld /media/sda1 now...
[04:53] <xiaden> intelikey: i'm assuming i need to close the root conqueror?
[04:53] <schmitty> where in the kubuntu window manager can i set the transparency of inactive windows
[04:53] <intelikey> xiaden no.  that was a repost for flaccid to look at.
[04:53] <xiaden> intelikey: ahh
[04:53] <intelikey> it obviously isn't accepting things i'm telling it to do.
[04:54] <schmitty> where is the kubuntu window manager config
[04:54] <intelikey> and the "why" is probably in your pastebin
[04:54] <xiaden> flaccid intelikey: wow... i'm looking at my stuff but... ls: /media/sda: No such file or directory
[04:54] <intelikey> http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d5b271a6
[04:54] <xiaden> oh wait
[04:54] <flaccid> schmitty: um im not sure if you can in kde3, the people in #kde might be able to advise
[04:55] <flaccid> xiaden: sda1 not sda
[04:55] <intelikey> sda1
[04:55] <javier> flaccid, where can i show an image, where can i send it or where can i upload ig
[04:55] <xiaden> flaccid: dr-x------ 1 root root 24576 2008-06-17 07:51 /media/sda1
[04:55] <intelikey> schmitty kcontrol ?
[04:55] <schmitty> flaccid: there is a way becaise i have inadvertantly made all inactive windows transparent and i need to change the darn thing back to normal but i can't find the gui anymore
[04:56] <intelikey> xiaden and     mount | grep sda1    ?
[04:56] <flaccid> javier: dcc me if you have to http://tinypic.com maybe http://photobin.com
[04:56] <flaccid> hmm no write on it
[04:56] <schmitty> intelikey: thankyou i think this is where it is
[04:56] <xiaden> iintelikey flaccid: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[04:56] <flaccid> schmitty: i'll have another look
[04:57] <xiaden> schmitty: ctr alt?
[04:57] <flaccid> xiaden: mounted rw with those masks but not translating across in the posix perms
[04:57] <intelikey> flaccid see that ?     mount is reporting it as accessable but the system says 'not'
[04:58] <intelikey> i have literally never see linux do that before.
[04:58] <intelikey> seen
[04:59] <intelikey> that's like something windows would do   "tell windows to do blah, windows says ok i did blah.  but blah never got done..."
[04:59] <flaccid> schmitty: i think its in kcontrol - appearance and themes - window decorations, then background and overlay tabs. not sure if this is it but..
[04:59] <flaccid> intelikey: yep!
[04:59] <schmitty> k flaccid thanx
[04:59] <flaccid> intelikey: i think i've seen it before but can't remember anything
[04:59] <intelikey> if that's what ubuntu is headed to i'm finished with it.
[04:59] <javier> flaccid, http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea2pc2.jpg
[04:59] <xiaden> intelikey: something maybe impoertant. that partition has vista which wouldn't boot on it. would the no boot flag make linux regulate it to protect the kernal?
[05:00] <xiaden> or whatever you call the flag that gets set when windows dun boot?
[05:00] <flaccid> i reckon we gotta work out why first, maybe its that invalid boot sector/messages there. i mean it could the ntfs driver, the partition or the fs hmm
[05:00] <flaccid> initial hosed fs theory of intelikey could be best candidate atm imo
[05:01] <intelikey> xiaden if so.  mount should report it.  it's not.   in my openion something on your system is broken/buggy   either mount or ....  ummm mount.
[05:01] <schmitty> flaccid: that did it. Cool. that transparency crap was using all my system resources. Thank you
[05:01] <flaccid> schmitty: cool, thanks i learnt something too :)
[05:02] <xiaden> flaccid: why what? why windows dun boot? thats a virus. win32/bagz sets an invalid driver in your driver bin, and then sets a mass email to people with itself in it, before the driver file ruins windows.
[05:02] <intelikey> if i were running hardy i would be in #ubuntu raising hell about that.    if it happened where i could see what it was doing i would anyway.
[05:02] <xiaden> well, not ruins windows, just kills the boot =P
[05:03] <flaccid> xiaden: i wouldn't go that far, but rather find out what the problem is with the fs. viruses are in userland , not the fs and part containers
[05:03] <intelikey> they can be.
[05:03] <flaccid> well the boot sector damaged or not imo shouldn't affect the mount
[05:03] <Morslok> for some reason my display won't go to a higher resolution than 640x480
[05:03] <flaccid> intelikey: well boot sector virus, but the win32/bagz is userland iirc
[05:03] <intelikey> there have been several virii that have been made for the MBR in fact
[05:04] <flaccid> as in win32/virus..
[05:04] <intelikey> k
[05:04] <javier> flaccid, what did you think??
[05:04] <flaccid> javier: what was your problem?
[05:04] <flaccid> javier: its a very small pic
[05:04] <flaccid> how do i make it big?
[05:04] <javier> flaccid let me see if i can take another pic bigger
[05:06] <flaccid> intelikey: i guess still could be mbr virus in there or at least something that affects this mounting hmm. we should contact ntfs authors
[05:06] <Morslok> I think the nvidia driver is active, but it still won't apply a higher resolution than 640x480
[05:06] <flaccid> Morslok: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[05:07] <intelikey> xiaden check in #ubuntu   see if any of the "team" are around at this hour,  show them the output of    mount | grep sda1 ; ls -ld /media/sda1 ; sudo touch /media/sda1/boo
[05:07] <intelikey> and ask why the hell your mount command is lying to you
[05:07] <flaccid> hehe!
[05:07] <javier> flaccid, http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea3tm8.jpg here is a bigger
[05:08] <flaccid> javier: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well please
[05:08] <intelikey> i'm serious.  i don't get p.*d over things like this very often but this one did it for me...
[05:09]  * flaccid is sick of video issues on linux. i think it may never be decent because of vendors
[05:09] <flaccid> intelikey: i agree. i mean i don't see how it could be 'us' at all
[05:10] <intelikey> yeah,   i don't like a machine lying to me.     tic's me off.
[05:10] <doorknob60> just got here, what u talkin about?
[05:10] <javier> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21072/
[05:11] <intelikey> bothers me far less when it just reports that it can't do what i want it to... no big deal there.  but tell me you did what i said and then let me find that it's not done..... !
[05:11]  * flaccid pats his konversation using kfmclient newTab '%u' for web browser
[05:11] <javier> intelikey, how do i change my keyboard layout??
[05:11] <flaccid> yes, weird for linux not giving further info/error. you think something is supressing it intelikey?
[05:11]  * intelikey is too mad to do anything productive.
[05:11] <flaccid> doorknob60: just ntfs mount problem
[05:11] <flaccid> understood
[05:11] <doorknob60> ok
[05:11] <intelikey> javier kcontrol
[05:12] <intelikey> javier if you mean in kde   it's in kcontrol      unless you are in kde4 then it's a system settings module
[05:12] <doorknob60> flaccid: how do you make konversation open links in new tab??
[05:12] <Morslok> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21073/
[05:12] <doorknob60> always annoyed me
[05:12] <intelikey> javier or did you mean in the console ?
[05:13] <flaccid> doorknob60: just  like it said: kfmclient newTab '%u'
[05:13]  * flaccid checks log
[05:13] <doorknob60> where do you put that though
[05:13] <flaccid> brb
[05:13] <javier> intelikey, but from there i cant modify te layout, for instance i can put ñ (im mexican) but i cant put the arroba
[05:13] <flaccid> doorknob60: configure konversation | general
[05:13] <doorknob60> oh duh i missed that option LO
[05:13] <doorknob60> :P
[05:13] <javier> flaccid, so what is wrong with my xorg??
[05:13] <doorknob60> just noticed it after i asked
[05:13] <flaccid> give me a sec i have to go to little boys room
[05:14] <intelikey> javier idk
[05:15] <intelikey> banos
[05:16] <flaccid> javier: pastebin your xorg.conf please
[05:16] <flaccid> and just paste in chan output of lscpi|grep VGA
[05:16] <intelikey> -su: lscpi: command not found
[05:16] <intelikey> :)
[05:17]  * intelikey gouges flaccid    typo
[05:17]  * flaccid slaps himself
[05:17] <flaccid> ta
[05:18] <javier> flaccid, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21075/
[05:18] <intelikey> javier he meant paste the output of   lspci | grep VGA   into this channel   "expecting one line"
[05:19] <javier> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[05:19] <intelikey> there ya go  :)
[05:19] <flaccid> hey intelikey, you are intel video user?
[05:19] <intelikey> nvidia
[05:19] <flaccid> ah its stdin that is an intel guy
[05:20] <flaccid> !fixresolution | javier
[05:20] <intelikey> yep
[05:20] <intelikey> !fixres
[05:20] <flaccid> !fixres | javier
[05:21] <flaccid> see this is what i don't like and makes me mad intelikey. intel has the open driver and can work well. problem is that there are many resolution related problems and so frequent!
[05:22] <intelikey> i have one intel i810  never had an issue with it tho
[05:22] <xiaden> intelikey; can you make sense of this? xiaden: The filesystem was not mounted ro but the filesystem driver is a read-only drive.
[05:22] <genii> My 945 works great
[05:22] <xiaden> intelikey: xiaden: Use the ntfs-3g driver.
[05:23] <intelikey> xiaden show me     lsb_release -r
[05:23] <flaccid> i've had issues with every intel setup i've touched
[05:23] <xiaden> Release:        6.06
[05:23] <intelikey> oh my
[05:24] <flaccid> omg
[05:24] <intelikey> dapper.
[05:24]  * flaccid slaps himself
[05:24] <flaccid> dapper must not have the ntfs like other releases has. it could still have read only?
[05:24] <intelikey> xiaden sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[05:24] <flaccid> but its LTS, so surely they would of upgraded that
[05:25] <Morslok> any ideas what my problem could be?
[05:25] <flaccid> yep so you need ntfs-3g because dapper must not have native ntfs write support yet via its kernel or whatever
[05:25] <intelikey> flaccid not a chance.  they put out tons of security updates and bug fixes  but nothing gets added
[05:25] <flaccid> intelikey: idoes that sound right?
[05:25] <javier> flaccid, ca you send me again the url i restarted
[05:25] <intelikey> flaccid yes
[05:25] <flaccid> intelikey: oh. so its a good old snapshot in time. definately the problem then. no write ntfs in dapper
[05:25] <xiaden> initelikey: no such package =P
[05:26] <flaccid> javier: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto . im trying to work out which problem it could be..
[05:26] <intelikey> !fuse
[05:26] <intelikey> !info fuse dapper
[05:26] <intelikey> !botsmack
[05:27] <intelikey> ubottu you are a bot !
[05:27] <intelikey> anyway.
[05:27] <intelikey> xiaden sudo apt-get install fuse
[05:27] <xiaden> no such package there either =[
[05:28] <javier> flaccid, ok ok thanks
[05:29]  * flaccid feels like an idiot now xiaden; intelikey
[05:29] <intelikey> fuse-source is there  but you'd have to build that
[05:30] <intelikey> flaccid i'm still pissed.   mount should not lie about it.
[05:30] <flaccid> true, i agree on that as well
[05:30] <intelikey> xiaden sudo apt-get install fuse-utils
[05:31] <intelikey> see if that helps.
[05:31] <xiaden> Package fuse-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:31] <xiaden> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:31] <xiaden> is only available from another source
[05:31] <xiaden> E: Package fuse-utils has no installation candidate
[05:31] <xiaden> sorry for flood
[05:31] <intelikey> are you on the live CD ?
[05:31] <flaccid> intelikey: actually thinking back now, this is what i came across a couple of years ago, then i looked it up and found out no ntfs write yet lol
[05:32] <flaccid> i was a bit of a newbie but took your point of view..
[05:33] <intelikey> yeah   tell me you can't do that,   call me stupid for wanting to,   but do not lie to me and say you did something you didn't do...
[05:33] <dwidmann> !scoobysnack
[05:33] <flaccid> javier: can you find anything in that doc that could help/relate to your display problem?
[05:33] <dwidmann> !scoobysnacks
[05:33] <intelikey> that's part of why i "hate!" M$ so much.   the EULA being another major factor.
[05:33] <xiaden> intelikey: erpo, xiaden, ntfs-config is the config option you'll need to use to enable write support, if that's the question (this is on hardy, previous versions are a little different)
[05:34] <javier> yup, i dont have horizsync neither vertrefresh
[05:34] <flaccid> lol
[05:34] <flaccid> xiaden: i don't think you'll get write support for ntfs in dapper
[05:34] <javier> flaccid, yup, i dont have horizsync neither vertrefresh
[05:35] <xiaden> idk if i'm running hardy =P
[05:35] <flaccid> javier: what do you mean?
[05:35] <intelikey> xiaden but are you using the dapper live CD ?      or is this an installed system ?
[05:35] <flaccid> xiaden: sorry, not in the kernel/native..
[05:35] <xiaden> intelikey: how do i find that.
[05:35] <intelikey> eject the cd ?
[05:36] <javier> flaccid, im missing those lines which determine my monitor value in xorg.conf
[05:36] <flaccid> xiaden: something like this should help to get what you need http://techpark6.com/ntfs-3g-read-write-ntfs-drives-on-your-linux-box.html
[05:36] <flaccid> javier: it shouldnt need it and this shouldnt relate to sync
[05:36] <xiaden> intelikey: it's burnt cd from about a week or two ago.
[05:36] <doorknob60> flaccid: how do you make yourself say...hard to explain, but when you said this: * flaccid feels like an idiot now xiaden; intelikey how did you do that?
[05:36] <intelikey> flaccid if he's running the live cd he should just grab another iso
[05:37] <javier> flaccid, ok, then whats wrong??
[05:37] <flaccid> doorknob60: ?
[05:37] <flaccid> javier: im still looking
[05:37] <xiaden> doornob60: / me
[05:37] <intelikey> xiaden you burned a 2 year old live CD rather than the latest one......
[05:37] <intelikey> xiaden any chance you can use a later modle cd ?
[05:38] <xiaden> ... or i threw the wrong freaking cd in the drive X_X
[05:38] <flaccid> xiaden: did you do that because it said LTS ?
[05:38] <doorknob60> xiaden: meh i though i tried that :P
[05:38]  * doorknob60 is testing the command
[05:38] <doorknob60> yay
[05:39] <doorknob60> i wat testing out on the Freenode tab of konversation so noone would see if i did something retarted, i guess it doesnt work on there lolz
[05:39] <intelikey> /exec echo $USER
[05:40] <xiaden> flaccid: you sure this is an old cd?
[05:40] <intelikey> xiaden are you going to reboot the "right freaking cd" ?
[05:41] <flaccid> javier: install pkg, 915resolution
[05:41] <intelikey> xiaden yes 6.6   that's year month
[05:41] <xiaden> it's not the wrong cd. i have the mailed 7.07 over here.
[05:41] <flaccid> xiaden: dapper is woeful and old
[05:41] <xiaden> umm.
[05:41] <xiaden> wow.
[05:41] <flaccid> ntfs support was immature at that stage
[05:41] <xiaden> 7.04
[05:42] <xiaden> would 7 have ntfs support?
[05:42] <javier> flaccid, ok... sudo apt-get install pkg and sudo apt-get 915resolution ??
[05:42] <intelikey> that's a year later and "might" have ntfs-3g in it's repos.
[05:42] <doorknob60> 7.04 does have ntfs-3g in repos, i remember using it
[05:42] <flaccid> javier: just sudo apt-get install 915resolution . just follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-8b0ad82432ba5f582395ffe40cfa454adaba2068 and make sure to try i810 driver as well
[05:42] <xiaden> i'll brb then =P
[05:42] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g edgy
[05:43] <intelikey> dumb bot.
[05:43] <flaccid> weird how ubotu does that now
[05:43] <javier> flaccid, couldnt find the package
[05:43] <intelikey> that's not ubotu
[05:43] <intelikey> it's his stupid sister
[05:44] <doorknob60> whats the difference intelikey?
[05:44] <flaccid> rightio
[05:44] <intelikey> a buck two ninty five
[05:44] <flaccid> javier: read the doc ie. To install 915resolution on Ubuntu make sure that you have included the "universe" repository and type (replacing "915resolution" with "855resolution" on Breezy):
[05:45] <intelikey> what do you mean what's the differance ?    ubotu had a function for searching all relases   ubottu knows almost nothing.
[05:45] <flaccid> intelikey: considering intel does have a lot of issues. is there actually a video chip/driver/vendor that is good?
[05:45] <javier> flaccid, that was what i was gonna ask how do i include universe repository
[05:45] <flaccid> !repos | javier
[05:45] <flaccid> javier: adept manager
[05:45] <flaccid> by good i mean. one that is open driver and um works lol
[05:46] <kenandbren1> I can't enable my wireless connectio
[05:46] <intelikey> s3   but i think they went out of business in... umm 1996
[05:46] <kenandbren1> can someone give me some advice
[05:47] <intelikey> or 98
[05:47] <intelikey> !wifi | kenandbren1 i have no wifi but the bot sujests:
[05:47] <kenandbren1> i looked there and had no luck
[05:48] <flaccid> kenandbren1: so is your card supported?
[05:48] <kenandbren1> it is recognized but i can't enable the connection
[05:48] <intelikey> flaccid next time someone says live CD   remind me to say "what decade?"   :)
[05:48] <SiegeX> does kubuntu have the same support for all the compiz eyecandy out of the box like ubuntu?
[05:49] <intelikey> !compiz
[05:49] <flaccid> intelikey: hehe np
[05:49] <flaccid> kenandbren1: model?
[05:49] <SiegeX> is compiz window manager independant?
[05:49] <kenandbren1> bcm4318
[05:50] <flaccid> kenandbren1: how did you go with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29 which is linked from the wi-fi docs?
[05:50] <flaccid> or this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_[AirForce_One_54g]_(Native_Driver)?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[05:51] <flaccid> crappy urls
[05:51] <xiaden> bak
[05:51] <xiaden> now then
[05:52] <calcmandan> This is taken straight from yahoo sports in a story about the Celtics' win over Lakers tonight: "It was a group effort by this gang in green, which bonded behind Rivers, who borrowed an African word ubuntu (pronounced Ooh-BOON-too) and roughly means “I am, because we are” in English, as the Celtics’ unifying team motto."
[05:52] <kenandbren1> thankyou flaccid
[05:53] <flaccid> kenandbren1: so i take it you didn't read the wifidocs :) the one you probably wont to follow is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:53] <xiaden> =[ flaccid: not even showing up now...
[05:53] <Agent_bob> looks like i have a patrol,   be back later.  wish me life!
[05:53] <Agent_bob> or luck
[05:53] <flaccid> xiaden: showing up? what sorry?
[05:54] <xiaden> the hd icon. not there at all in /media
[05:54] <kenandbren1> just found it, thanks alot! will talk later
[05:54] <flaccid> xiaden: livecds are not persistant as a cd is read only
[05:54] <xiaden> i mean my c: doesn't show up.
[05:55] <flaccid> um you are going to have to give us more information than 'doesn't show up'
[05:55] <flaccid> !doestnwork | xiaden
[05:55] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[05:55] <xiaden> flaccid: my vista permissioned hard drive? ring a bell?  twenty minutes ago?
[05:56] <flaccid> yes i do ring a bell
[05:56] <flaccid> but 'doesn't show up' where??????
[05:56] <xiaden> in/media
[05:56] <flaccid> xiaden: like i said, livecds are not persistent.
[05:56] <xiaden> does in qtparteed though
[05:56] <morslok> okay, i managed to fix my resolution problem on my own, but i have another problem, this one with my sound
[05:56] <morslok> more specifically, i have no sound
[05:57] <flaccid> xiaden: so goto system settings - disks & filesystems , try enabling it there and failing that, mount it manual like we did before. i wouldn't expect it to be 'showing up' atm..
[05:57] <flaccid> !sound | morslok
[05:58] <BadBarbarian> Hi all i am trying to istall from dvd and i tryed regular and video safemode i lose video in safemode and it appeares to load add drivers and than it Hangs at the kubuntu screen and the blue bar don't move and no dvd lights flashing can you help
[05:58] <flaccid> !alternate try this | BadBarbarian
[05:59] <flaccid> !alternate | BadBarbarian try this
[05:59] <BadBarbarian> thanx
[05:59] <flaccid> np
[06:00] <xiaden> dun deal. wanta know what i did?
[06:00] <flaccid> sure
[06:00] <BadBarbarian> i have the text mode on this dvd mapbe i will try that before downloading cd
[06:02] <flaccid> ah true
[06:02] <flaccid> dvd gets it all then
[06:02] <xiaden> disk &filesystem, admin mode, sat a few seconds wondering why there was no enable by sda1.. then made a mount point =P running konquerer in su mode to check it's writability
[06:02] <BadBarbarian> can i get graphics later
[06:02] <flaccid> what, you had to create a mountpoint to enable it in the GUI there?
[06:02] <flaccid> BadBarbarian: usually
[06:02] <BadBarbarian> ok
[06:03] <BadBarbarian> bbl with xchat lol
[06:03] <xiaden> flaccid: yup. probbally could have done that in dapper lol
[06:04] <flaccid> xiaden: yeah except for the write support issue, which is the issue. so you ran it in admin mode and it still required manual making of a mountpoint?
[06:05] <xiaden> mhm
[06:05] <xiaden> still cant write...
[06:05] <flaccid> paste the fstab line
[06:05] <javier> flaccid, it didnt work
[06:06] <flaccid> javier: i can't find anything else to try, instead of using the vesa driver which won't be as good
[06:06] <xiaden> flaccid: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto users,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[06:08] <flaccid> xiaden: ok add the other options ie. the masks to try to get write support, even thought i don't think you need to. which version is this cd?
[06:09] <xiaden> 7.04
[06:09] <xiaden> i need the lines again...
[06:09] <flaccid> !ntfs | xiaden
[06:09] <flaccid> i don't know if 7.04 gives you writeable, i can't say...
[06:09] <flaccid> i gtg out
[06:20] <Morslok> Okay, so i need to know what my soundcard's driver is called so i can install it but I have no clue.
[06:21] <Morslok> 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[06:21] <Morslok>         Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8249
[06:21] <Morslok>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
[06:21] <Morslok>         Memory at fe024000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[06:21] <Morslok>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[06:22] <Morslok> but i don't know where to look to find the drivers
[06:34] <mjbrooks> I did an update this morning before I ran out the door, it pulled in the 2.6.24-19 kernel and new nvidia drivers and now I can't log in to xorg... I get the kdm screen adn I can log on in a terminal, but I just keep getting kicked back to the kdm login screen now... anyone have any thoughts?
[06:37] <coreymon77> and firefox 3 just hit 4 mil!!!
[06:43] <marc> testing
[06:44] <javier> flaccid, what can i do, i dont want desktop effects i just want to use kubuntu in all the screen, will vesa fix this??
[06:46] <xiaden> =P
[06:46] <xiaden> woo!
[06:46] <xiaden> hi
[06:47] <xiaden> i'ma leave now
[06:49] <morslok> Whenever I try to change something in adept now I get an error that says "could not commit changes"
[06:51] <Elda> For some reason, I am having troubles getting gecko to install :(
[06:51] <Elda> Is there any way to get it to install via the package manager?
[06:51] <Elda> As doing wine iexplore will not bring up the text box for it, and wine-doors plain sucks
[07:13] <moshe> hi, is there a way to configure kio ftp, like maximum number of connections?
[07:14] <Elda> oh well... night all \o/
[07:30] <SaraSmith> .
[07:32] <SaraSmith> my husband's new computer is seeing no nic card, it says it sees firewire.. what's that?
[07:41] <sandro_> ciao
[07:49] <flaccid> javier: did you try the vesa driver?
[07:49] <flaccid> SaraSmith: maybe the card is not supported. firewire is a network interface technically which is protocol similar to usb
[07:54] <needhelp> hi i've installed windows and kunbutu on my macbook.. was able to boot up using refit.. however now refit only detects windows and osx because i messed with grub
[07:54] <flaccid> what is refit?
[07:54] <needhelp> i followed the instructions to reinstall grub by booting into kubuntu cd and chroot in, and type update-grub
[07:54] <needhelp> but still fail~~~
[07:54] <needhelp> refit is a bootloader for macbook :<
[07:55] <needhelp> ok the point is i want to reinstall grub or lilo using kubuntu cd..
[07:55] <flaccid> and get rid of refit?
[07:55] <needhelp> so what i did was..boot in cd.. mount /dev/sda3 /mnt .. chroot /mnt
[07:55] <needhelp> update-grub
[07:56] <needhelp> without refit i think i can't choose which os to boot ;p..it was working fine..when i choose windows using refit, it will still go into grub menu and choose windows
[07:56] <flaccid> so what happens on boot now, needhelp?
[07:56] <flaccid> its recommended to only use one bootloader
[07:57] <needhelp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567206 <-- exactly the first problem this guy had
[07:57] <needhelp> refit is not really a bootloader.. its a EFI boot menu..not sure how to explain it! :P
[07:57] <flaccid> needhelp: this is how you reinstall grub, not update it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#head-4c7a8640a439568ee312c9f262cc1099634f25ef
[07:59] <flaccid> you can also run grub-install like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[07:59] <SaraSmith> "the default insatallation is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems. press F1 for hel and advanced installation options. To install only the base syste, type 'server' then ENTER. For the default installation, prss ENTER. boot:
[08:00] <flaccid> needhelp: as for refit, i can't support that sorry, but ##mac probably does
[08:00] <flaccid> SaraSmith: question?
[08:01] <needhelp> right i'll reinstall grub now
[08:13] <KugelFisch> whats different between the hardy one and the kde mix?
[08:15] <RYCO> hello?
[08:15] <RYCO> first time on irc lol\
[08:15] <flaccid> !hi
[08:16] <flaccid> KugelFisch: kde3 and kde4
[08:17] <KugelFisch> What sould i use? (I'm testing linux the first time)
[08:17] <flaccid> KugelFisch: kde3 as its stable, so you won't get annoyed and its still the popular one
[08:18] <flaccid> KugelFisch: so http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest and you only need the CD from your closest mirror
[08:18] <KugelFisch> yepp thx
[08:19] <flaccid> np
[08:20] <helpy> when i start kubuntu i get alot of options to run kubuntu in recovery mode
[08:20] <helpy> about 4 of them
[08:20] <helpy> whats that ?
[08:20] <clau30> !firefox
[08:20] <flaccid> !recovery | helpy can't remember what the mode exactly is..
[08:21] <flaccid> not sure why you have 4 options
[08:21] <helpy> thats what i am trying to figure out
[08:21] <helpy> i dont have CD, i am dual booting with wubi
[08:21] <helpy> how do i rescue with wubi ?
[08:24] <flaccid> i don't know sorry never used it
[08:24] <flaccid> anyone here can help with wubi?
[08:24] <SaraSmith> "the default insatallation is suitable for most desktop or laptop systems. press F1 for hel and advanced installation options. To install only the base syste, type 'server' then ENTER. For the default installation, prss ENTER. boot:_" i'm assuming this means it's seeing the cd drive :) .. BUT what i need to do is put hardy on the SATA drive and get it to see the internet.. HOW?
[08:25] <flaccid> press enter SaraSmith
[08:27] <flaccid> it will boot into a desktop which you can use or install kubuntu on to your hard disk
[08:34] <helpy> flaccid:  what is a good dictionary for ubuntu ?
[08:35] <helpy> i used a dictionary in windows that could show the meanings of the word by clickin a combination of keys anywhere
[08:40] <flaccid> no idea, try google :)
[08:55] <llutz> Moin
[08:55] <Dragonath> what the hell is console-kit-dae and why is there 61 copies of it running?
[08:57] <flaccid> did you try google, Dragonath?
[08:58] <flaccid> hmm not much on it and no man page
[08:59] <Dragonath> yup
[08:59] <Dragonath> well I guess nothing bad would happen if I just killed them all
[08:59] <flaccid> actually its console-kit-daemon
[08:59] <Dragonath> yup
[09:00] <flaccid> see first google result..
[09:00] <Dragonath> I don't think there needs to be 61 of them
[09:01] <flaccid> correct, see first google result. people complained of the same thing and there is a bug report etc..
[09:01] <Dishivlatavish> Anyone play one of those old loki games on 64-bit ubuntu?
[09:01] <Dragonath> ahh it seems they don't hurt anything either
[09:02] <Dragonath> actually I am having problems with something keeping my sound card busy
[09:02] <Dragonath> yet there is no sound coming out of the speakers
[09:02] <Dragonath> so I went to check the processes
[09:03] <Dragonath> can't find anything there though
[09:03] <Dragonath> and amarok says xine is unable to initialize sound drivers
[09:06] <needhelp> flaccid: i've installed grub back and its working for my windows to boot up
[09:06] <needhelp> but for kubuntu, it keep saying file not found when selecting the menu
[09:06] <needhelp> i checked the kernal and initrd files are all there in /boot
[09:07] <needhelp> except the root=UUID=xxx instead of root=/dev/sda3 .. which i changed and try and its the same
[09:07] <needhelp> sigh!!!
[09:07] <m0ns00n> Hello
[09:07] <m0ns00n> Anyone good at fixing networking problems?
[09:11] <jussi01> !anyone | m0ns00n
[09:11] <flaccid> Dragonath: did you use fuser command with appropriate switches?
[09:11] <flaccid> needhelp: brb and i can help fix
[09:14] <needhelp> nvmind i got it
[09:14] <needhelp> i was editing /grub/boot/menu.lst instead of /mnt/grub/boot/menu.lst :)
[09:14] <needhelp> trying now again
[09:15] <needhelp> ok solved!!
[09:17] <m0ns00n> ubottu, I have a hardy machine here with kubuntu. I removed the knetworkmanager applet because it was inconsistent with system settings->network and just didn't work
[09:18] <jussi01> m0ns00n: so have you tried reinstalling knetwork manager?
[09:18] <m0ns00n> I have a hardy machine here with kubuntu. I removed the knetworkmanager applet because it was inconsistent with system settings->network and just didn't work. I am fiddling around with trying to make the network work. I can ping google's ip address, but not it's hostname, that's my problem
[09:19] <m0ns00n> I have tried to setup route myself, and also ifconfig'd the device
[09:19] <m0ns00n> Same problem
[09:19] <m0ns00n> I can ping google's ip, or other ip addies, but not the hostnames
[09:19] <m0ns00n> In fact, I can't reach anything through hostnames...
[09:20] <jussi01> m0ns00n: ahh, thats because knetwork manager manages the DNS and now you dont have one.
[09:20] <jussi01> so you either need to manually add one or reinstall knetwork manager
[09:25] <llutz> m0ns00n: add "nameserver -ip-of-your-dns>" to /etc/resolv.conf
[09:26] <m0ns00n> jussi01, Well, I have the dns correctly set in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:26] <m0ns00n> like on all other computers here
[09:27] <m0ns00n> and the route table is alike the other ubuntu machines
[09:27] <m0ns00n> and the ip setup ( with gateway, bcast etc )
[09:27] <jussi01> m0ns00n: just covering the basics first, you have restarted the netwrok after making changes?
[09:38] <flaccid> needhelp: all good now?
[09:39] <flaccid> m0ns00n: so what happens when you do host -v google.com?
[09:39] <noaXess> !fsck.ntfs
[09:39] <noaXess> !fsck
[09:40] <noaXess> how can i install fsck.ntfs?
[09:43] <forky> ;D
[09:45] <flaccid> noaXess: i don't think there is one, but there is testdisk
[09:45] <noaXess> flaccid: yeah.. but with testdisk i can't check the file structur.. or check for bad sectors or read errors.. or i haven't found it in testdisk..
[09:46] <flaccid> i think you can do some of that. keep in mind this is ntfs... and yeah if you google you find out there is no such thing as fsck.ntfs
[09:47] <flaccid> well thats what it seems
[09:48] <noaXess> ok
[09:49] <flaccid> noaXess: also check out the ntfs-progs pkg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ntfsprogs
[09:50] <flaccid> im off
[09:51] <The_ManU_212> is this normal?
[09:51] <The_ManU_212> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/316224/
[09:51] <The_ManU_212> this ignore?
[09:52] <Duesentrieb> The_ManU_212: looks normal to me.
[09:52] <Duesentrieb> anyway...
[09:53] <Duesentrieb> can someone tell me if qtparted and kparted are the same thing? i can't find kparted in the repos. and qtparted seems to suck :(
[09:53] <Duesentrieb> "suck" as in "freeze the ui while doing disk stuff".
[09:54] <The_ManU_212> Duesentrieb: because with apt-get update the connection to winehq timeout and then for some minutes apt-get update was temporary locked
[09:54] <The_ManU_212> sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <The_ManU_212> [10:44] <The_ManU_212> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:54] <The_ManU_212> [10:44] <The_ManU_212> E: Kann kein Lock auf das Listenverzeichnis bekommen
[09:55] <Duesentrieb> you'd get that error if there is still some apt process running.
[10:06] <The_ManU_212> Duesentrieb: ok thx
[10:10] <jsanz_> Since i upgraded to hardy, the scroll in konsole goes a lot slower :s
[10:22] <jsanz_> anybody has any clue about how to solve it
[10:23] <Duesentrieb> jsanz_: just an idea: try a different font and play with antializing modes.
[10:23] <Duesentrieb> also, maybe there's a "smooth scrolling" option somewhere that you could disable. not sure if that exists globally for kde.
[10:42] <jm87> i ve some problem
[10:43] <jm87> i dont  know how to install ff3 on my ubintu
[10:43] <jm87> ubunt+u
[10:44] <llutz> jm87: sudo aptitude install firefox-3.0
[10:46] <jm87> i downloaded file yeterday i try to install now on pc don t run su and sudo modality i dont know why
[10:47] <llutz> jm87: don't install the tar.bz2, wait until ff3-final will be in repos
[10:47] <jm87> when i find to authenticate gives me error authenthication falliure
[10:48] <jm87> but i write my pwd wright
[10:49] <FoxI2> jm87, try a simple: sudo apt-get update and tell us what it says after you put in your password.
[10:53] <jm87> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg
[10:53] <jm87> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-it [111kB]
[10:53] <jm87> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Translation-it [2568B]
[10:53] <jm87> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Translation-it [41,6kB]
[10:53] <jm87> Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Translation-it [3158B]
[10:54] <KRF> !nopaste jm87
[10:54] <KRF> !nopaste | jm87
[10:54] <KRF> !paste
[10:55] <jm87> i don t know how to post ultiline text
[10:57] <FoxIII> jm87, From what you have mentioned, you are entering the password correctly. Maybe try going into adept package manager and searching for FF3 there. It could be that you're putting in a wrong package name.
[10:59] <jm87> inpossible i copy the link from my desktop to shell
[10:59] <FoxIII> What are you typing in?
[11:00] <zorglu__> since i updated to ubuntun 8.04, i find the fonts ugly. i found them much nicer on my feisty. is there a doc or something on how to tune font aspect ?
[11:00] <jm87> where?
[11:02] <zorglu__> !font
[11:02] <FoxIII> jm87, you said you were copying a link from the desktop to the shell. What are you typing into the shell?
[11:05] <FoxIII_out> jm87, Gotta pop out, but if you put any information here, I'm sure there will be someone that will be able to help you further. Good luck :)
[11:05] <GillesM> problems here with ilw3945 ...
[11:05] <jm87> sudo apt get install /home/jm87/Scrivania/firefox-3.0.tar.bz2
[11:06] <jm87> i m not very good in english speaking and writing
[11:06] <llutz> !it | jm87
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !firefox3
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> its still beta?
[11:47] <rp_> nope
[11:48] <rp_> v3 final is out now
[11:52] <ubuntu_> hi to all
[11:52] <ubuntu_> i need help
[11:52] <ds187> !ask
[11:53] <ubuntu_> i want to install kubuntu804 but i have 1 hdd and ntfs on it
[11:53] <ubuntu_> can i convert my nrfs to ext without data lost
[11:56] <ubuntu_> guys.. i need help please.. i load my liveCD and i dont know what can o do now.. my data on ntfs drive is important
[11:56] <jussi01> ubuntu_: resize the ntfs
[11:57] <jussi01> but only after defragmenting several times
[11:57] <ubuntu_> how.. what tools for it i need
[11:57] <jussi01> ubuntu_: you can do it via the partition editor in the install
[11:57] <ubuntu_> i cant defrag because i dont have any windows systems on it
[11:58] <ubuntu_> can you tell me step by step
[11:59] <ubuntu_> only new partition option enabled in installer program
[12:00] <ubuntu_> but i have important data and i can view it now
[12:00] <dr_Willis> I feel i should point out the imporntance of good backups. :)
[12:00]  * dr_Willis just got here.
[12:01] <ubuntu_> oh my goth... any linux users here?
[12:01] <ubuntu_> no?
[12:02] <ubuntu_> i think i waist my time with this system... it is not for a girls..
[12:03] <MintLars> Hey guys. I'm having trouble with nvidia driver. Anyone who feel they can be of any assistance can visit this thread in kubuntuforums: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3095411.0
[12:04] <dr_Willis> I use linux all the time.
[12:04] <dr_Willis> :) but i missed your original problem.
[12:04] <ubuntu_> can i convert ntfs partition to ext3 without data lost? how?
[12:04] <dr_Willis> Hmm... Convert.. Not that i know of.
[12:04] <dr_Willis> In theory you could resize, create an ext3, move data over, resize again.
[12:04] <dr_Willis> but that would take a lot of time.
[12:05] <ubuntu_> i have much time
[12:05] <ubuntu_> what can i do this?
[12:06] <Meglo> Is it possible to get nvidia-settings from the repositories, it shows up but is unavailable.   Why are you converting ntfs to ext3 anyhway?
[12:07] <chell> does remastersys work with kubuntu?
[12:07] <dr_Willis> and it always pays to have backups of your imporntant data
[12:09] <dr_Willis> and aparently a dose of patience would help. :)
[12:16] <yao_ziyuan> anyone using firefox 3 now? spot the ugly tabs?
[12:19] <dr_Willis> Not noticed really.
[12:19] <dr_Willis> Square tabs with an Icon, text, and an X... so?
[12:31] <yao_ziyuan> Dr_willis: are you using the default firefox theme?
[12:32] <yao_ziyuan> Dr_willis: and are you applying the current kde theme to gtk apps like firefox?
[12:32] <Dr_willis_> No idea.  really. Im testing out Mint Linux at the moment. and im under gnome. So im not using kde at the moment
[12:33] <Dr_willis_> I normally run jwm as my window manager.
[12:34] <eagles0513875> VIVA ITALIa
[12:34] <lovre> KPDF is having trouble rendering a pdf file. 20 mins and didnt finish. What other viewer can i try?
[12:35] <DNC_005> hi all
[12:35] <DNC_005> how do i force resolution on this thing?
[12:35] <DNC_005> i want 1680 x 1050 but it won't let me :(
[12:36] <lovre> DNC_005: does your monitor suport that res?
[12:37] <DNC_005> yes
[12:37] <DNC_005> its shown in the settings as the optimum resolution
[12:37] <DNC_005> and i'm connecting to it via dvi
[12:37] <lovre> DNC_005: try removing all other resolutions from xorg.cfg file. That worked for me. (make a backup first)
[12:38] <DNC_005> oh wait i customised xorg.conf for my old crt :(
[12:38] <DNC_005> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg time?
[12:39] <Dr_willis_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - Often dosent work correctly for the new xorg stuff in hardy.
[12:40] <DNC_005> wow it detected it correctly straight away
[12:40] <DNC_005> i'm using some old version, fiesty i think
[12:40] <DNC_005> brb
[12:53] <helpy> how do you install from .tar.bz2 files?
[12:53]  * sajid is
[12:56] <Dr_willis_> helpy,  you uncompress the source and compile it.
[12:56] <Dr_willis_> its best to find packages for the stuff.
[12:57] <Dr_willis_> http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[12:57] <helpy> compile it ?
[12:58] <Dr_willis_> if its source code.. yes it needs to be compiled.
[12:58] <helpy> its not source code
[12:58] <Dr_willis_> and you will need to install the proper files to get a working compiler and other related packages
[12:58] <Dr_willis_> then what IS it?
[12:59] <helpy> freemind
[12:59] <helpy> .tar.gz2 file
[12:59] <Dr_willis_> the fact its a tar.gz2 means nothing.
[12:59] <Dr_willis_> its whats in the archive that matters.
[12:59] <Dr_willis_> I would say check the freemind homepage.
[13:00] <Dr_willis_> !find freemind
[13:00] <Dr_willis_> !info freemind
[13:00] <Dr_willis_> It seems tobe in the package repositories.
[13:00] <Dr_willis_> 'sudo apt-get install freemind' should install it. If you have the  multiverse repoistory enabled.
[13:01] <helpy> let me see
[13:02] <helpy> thanks Dr
[13:02] <helpy> its on its way
[13:02] <helpy> i wonder if it has bit tyrant too
[13:02] <Dr_willis_> this is why one always trys to use the package manager. :) not 'source archives'
[13:03] <Dr_willis_> Never herad of bittryant
[13:03] <Dr_willis_> !find tryant
[13:17] <The_ManU_212> how to use autoidentify with konversation?
[13:17] <The_ManU_212> which command for "service"?
[13:17] <llutz> "password" in server-settings
[13:19] <sandro_> hola
[13:22] <Jucato> The_ManU_212: depends on the server. usually you put "NickServ" in the service
[13:24] <The_ManU_212> thx works Jucato :)
[13:34] <chell> my kubuntu is hanging during system update
[13:34] <chell> Configuring new version of ssl-cert
[13:47] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:54] <Pennycook> chell: Have you tried updating in the terminal?  I know Adept can be a bit funny if some packages require confirmation.
[13:57] <engineer> Pennycook have you tried updating with synaptic?
[13:57] <engineer> if not you should
[13:58] <BluesKaj> there'are some upgrading issues with both adept and apt today , both froze up for a few mins. I thought the new Firefox Official Release would be available in the repos.
[13:58] <Pennycook> engineer: It's not my problem. :)  I personally use the terminal all the time.
[13:58] <engineer> i use the terminal too
[13:59] <engineer> but synaptic can be useful for more complex stuff
[13:59] <engineer> i keep adept out of my system
[14:01] <BluesKaj> there's nothing wrong with adept if the repos are setup ok
[14:02] <BluesKaj> synaptic does a bit more with correcting broken dependencies but it's too literal in it's searches , misses a lot of apps that adept finds with no probs
[14:05] <punisher> hi all
[14:05] <punisher> can you help me with Gnome?
[14:05] <punisher> He had long time to load
[14:05] <Dr_willis_> Well this is the KDE ubuntu channel. :) you want #ubuntu most likely
[14:05] <Dr_willis_> Kubuntu = Kde+ubuntu
[14:06] <punisher> ну и что?
[14:06] <Dr_willis_> !ru
[14:06] <punisher> Типа вы недолинуксы чтоли?
[14:14] <AcidToon> so how is everyone doing tonight?
[14:15] <mcc> hrm
[14:15] <mcc> wow
[14:15] <AcidToon> lol i'm installing wow right now
[14:16] <mcc> you guys wont believe this....  i'm sitting in a classroom in  a village in africa, i'm australian... these guys are running ubuntu :)
[14:16] <AcidToon> nice
[14:16] <mcc> :|
[14:16] <mcc> lol
[14:16] <BluesKaj> mcc , very cool :)
[14:17] <mcc> mcc lol default account on this thing
[14:17] <AcidToon> just installed ubuntu for the first time tonight
[14:17] <AcidToon> likeing it so far
[14:17] <mcc> its great
[14:17] <mcc> gnome or kde?
[14:17] <AcidToon> not sure lol
[14:18] <AcidToon> new to all of this
[14:18] <mcc> you have main main menu on top or bottom of screen?
[14:18] <mcc> me to a month ago
[14:18] <AcidToon> was on top but i moved it
[14:18] <mcc> thats gnome
[14:18] <AcidToon> kk
[14:18] <AcidToon> beats the hell out of vista
[14:19] <Dr_willis_> Kubuntu = kde, ubuntu = gnome. :)
[14:19] <mcc> dude
[14:19] <AcidToon> just have 2 see what my fps is in wow now
[14:19] <mcc> install whats it called ggaahhh... Dr_willis.. the app for 3d desktop nice graphics etc?
[14:19] <AcidToon> yea i have the cube thing up
[14:19] <AcidToon> i love it
[14:20] <mcc> nice one
[14:20] <ubuntu> hello all
[14:20] <AcidToon> hello
[14:20] <Dr_willis_> !compiz
[14:20] <mcc> COMPIZ
[14:20] <mcc> thats the one lol
[14:20] <ubuntu> .
[14:20] <mcc> yay... the bot is smart
[14:20] <mcc> brb
[14:21] <AcidToon> yea i'm running on a e6600 oced to 3.6 with 2 bfg 8800 oc2's
[14:21] <AcidToon> yea thats what i got
[14:21] <ubuntu__> .
[14:21] <BluesKaj> mcc, Zambia eh, how far from Lusaka ?
[14:22] <mcc> NICE
[14:22] <mcc> bastard guy
[14:22] <mcc> i gotta go
[14:22] <mcc> enjoy ure video card
[14:22] <mcc> ggrrrr
[14:22] <mcc> lol
[14:22] <AcidToon> lol
[14:22] <AcidToon> later
[14:26] <josa> i think i've "accidentally" installed some Intrepid packages... any way to get rid of them? i have already disabled intrepid from repos
[14:27] <josa> or does apt-get do that automatically, i have suddenly a lot of upgradeable packages
[14:31] <BluesKaj> josa, how did you install intrepid, with apt / adept/ synaptic ?
[14:32] <Poc> hello
[14:32] <josa> i enabled intrepid to get a program update that wasnt in hardy, and did apt-get upgrade without thinking enough
[14:32] <josa> i mean, there are only a few packages i guess
[14:33] <Poc> Oo
[14:34] <josa> it's not "full upgrade" now isnt it, i recall there were just some driver libraries or something like that
[14:35] <josa> or i could find the logs and see if i did "upgrade" afterall, maybe the packages were just recommended with the program
[14:38] <josa> ok, for example my Perl is 5.10.0-10 which seems to be intrepid according to packages.ubuntu
[14:39] <AcidToon> so has anyone gotten wow 2 install on ubuntu?
[14:39] <dr_Willis> Wow2?  ive heard that World of Warcraft works with Wine.
[14:39] <AcidToon> yea
[14:40] <BluesKaj> josa, are you talking about intrepid Ibex , cuz most ppl refer to the next release (k)ubuntu as Ibex
[14:40] <AcidToon> i have gotted the first 1/2 done
[14:40] <dr_Willis> it requires a few tweaks i belive.
[14:40] <Ambient> wow works very good with both directx and opengl for me
[14:40] <Ambient> straight out of the box
[14:40] <Ambient> with nvidia drivers and wine 1
[14:40] <josa> yes... Ibex
[14:40] <AcidToon> but burning crusade wont
[14:41] <dr_Willis> No idea on that. Check the wine app data base
[14:41] <dr_Willis> !appdb
[14:41] <Ambient> well, I guess I have the advantage of having it preinstalled first in windows xp and then copying the directory to linux ;)
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Ambient, perhaps you could elaborate on your setup so there's some benefit from your statement
[14:41] <AcidToon> yea i may do that
[14:41] <AcidToon> save time on the updates lol
[14:41] <Ambient> have'nt tried installing through wine
[14:42] <AcidToon> i guess i'll hook up my usb hd and copy it over :)
[14:44] <AcidToon> so in wow did u lose any fps ?
[14:44] <Ambient> maybe something like 10%-20%
[14:44] <AcidToon> ok i can deal with that
[14:44] <Ambient> you might have some sound problems too
[14:44] <AcidToon> i'm pushing 120 in vista
[14:45] <Ambient> ah.. so your framerate will stay the same ;)
[14:45] <AcidToon> k
[14:45] <Ambient> because of vista > linux, instead of xp > linux
[14:45] <AcidToon> yea xp i was getting around 150 160
[14:46] <AcidToon> the only big thing is ventrilo anyone know if it works ?
[14:46] <dr_Willis> from what i hear.. NO it does not
[14:47] <AcidToon> :(
[14:47] <dr_Willis> !appdb
[14:47] <dr_Willis> check the wine app database
[14:47] <AcidToon> lol
[14:48] <Ambient> teamspeak has a native client for linux iirc
[14:48] <AcidToon> the site is giveing me errors
[14:48] <dr_Willis> Ambient,  correct.
[14:48] <AcidToon> too many connections
[14:48] <AcidToon> yea but i have my own vent server already paid for
[14:48] <Dragonath> right, something is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?
[14:49] <r2b2ryan> hi i need help on svn
[14:50] <Ambient> anyone here trying to install google gadgets for linux btw?
[14:50] <Ambient> or know somewhere I might get help with that?
[14:50] <dr_Willis> Ambient,  i saw a premade deb just today on some ubuntu web site
[14:50] <dr_Willis> Ambient,  took all of 20 sec to install :)
[14:50] <Ambient> oh, sweetness
[14:50] <r2b2ryan> i successfully followed the guide in ubuntu docs
[14:50] <Ambient> you _have_ to provide me with a link
[14:50] <r2b2ryan> but still confused
[14:51] <r2b2ryan> on svn config and everything
[14:51] <kalorin> yeah I need to set up some kind of cvs style repository
[14:51] <Ambient> I'm doing ./configure, all libs installed but it still wont let me 'make'
[14:51] <dr_Willis> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/06/16/install-google-gadgets-for-linux-on-ubuntu/
[14:51] <dr_Willis> Ambient,  i got most of the ubuntu news sites with live bookmarms. :)
[14:51] <Ambient> dr_Willis: thank you very much
[14:51] <dr_Willis> Not that i found google gadgets WORTH installing. :)
[14:52] <dr_Willis> still looking for a nice calculator program
[14:52] <Ambient> calculator widget?
[14:52] <dr_Willis> The ones they got - sort of Suck. :) dont do what i want
[14:52] <r2b2ryan> for example i already created a repository, but i found somewhere that the recommended structure is /trunk ,/branches ,/tags
[14:53] <Ambient> i use 'python' for all my calculation needs
[14:53] <Ambient> if I need to get silly, I just import numpy
[14:53] <dr_Willis> I just want a calculator thats resizeable with LARGE #'s and a 'history tape' :)
[14:54] <Ambient> well I'd love to hack something but I would need a better spec than that and still couldn't promise that I would write anything ;)
[14:57] <dr_Willis> those specs are rather clear. :) If i make the thing full screen.. i want Inch+ tall numbers.. so i can see them.. and a history tape . so i can recall the #'s ive used/entered/ and so forth.
[14:58] <dr_Willis> ive only found one under windows that does that. :) it sucks to get old with bad eyes
[14:58] <AcidToon> ok got ventrilo working
[14:58] <AcidToon> :)
[14:58] <AcidToon> works great
[14:58] <dr_Willis> AcidToon,  thats a first - that ive heard in this channel then. :)
[14:59] <AcidToon> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9832
[14:59] <AcidToon> thats the site i got the info from
[14:59] <noaXess> whats a good tool to convert a ogg video to a mpg/divx video?
[15:01] <dr_Willis> !info avidmux
[15:01] <dr_Willis> !find avid
[15:01] <dr_Willis> avidemux :)
[15:02] <Dragonath> right, something is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?
[15:06] <Nutubuntu> I'd like to write some little script that would play a .wav of the old original Star Trek line "He's dead, Jim!" whenever Firefox goes zombie. What would be the best way to set that up? Ideally it would have some way of preventing multiple iterations of the script from executing simultaneously so that the line doesn't get garbled...
[15:07] <noaXess> dr_Willis:  but if i open de ogg file in avidemux then: attempt to open ...ogg failed
[15:07] <noaXess> the ogg file was made from recordmydesktop
[15:08] <noaXess> gtk-recordMyDesktop
[15:08] <sigma__> anyone tried wine1.0?
[15:09] <dr_Willis> noaXess,  its possible you need to install some codecs. check the error messages in the terminal perhaps.
[15:09] <noaXess> okay.. i see..
[15:12] <Nutubuntu> Is there some way to kill a process that won't go away -- short of restarting? 'sudo kill -9 <pid>' did not kill it.
[15:16] <Dragonath> try "sudo pkill <pname or pid>" ?
[15:19] <the-erm> Anyone in here ever had the joy of setting up apt-cacher?
[15:19] <Nutubuntu> t/y Dragonath - it's Firefox, it's dead, and it's like the Energizer bunny - it just keeps running. ps aux says <defunct> and I can't get rid of it
[15:19] <the-erm> It's pretty slow when it comes to downloading the header files, and I was wondering if there was some magic setting in apt to set it to a "proxy"
[15:20] <the-erm> Nutubuntu: if you have htop sudo htop and kill it with f9
[15:20] <the-erm> if a sig 15 doesn't do it send it a sig 9
[15:21] <dr_Willis> restart X perhaps.
[15:21] <Nutubuntu> 'sudo kill -9 <pid>' did not kill it
[15:21] <kalorin> the-erm: I perfer H&K to Sig, but Sig's a good 9 too
[15:21] <kalorin> ;0
[15:21] <AcidToon> well guys i'm going 2 boot over 2 vista and copy wow over  i'll be back later and thanks for the help
[15:22] <Nutubuntu> t/y dr_Willis - I'll restart X then
[15:22] <Nutubuntu> Bye all, and thx!
[15:23] <dr_Willis> i wonder if acidtoon knows linux can read ntfs partitions...
[15:24] <Ambient> and just how is he going to copy it from windows
[15:24] <Ambient> it's a lot harder that way
[15:24] <linuxlover> hello room
[15:24] <dr_Willis> Ive given up on WoW ages ago.. :)
[15:30] <linuxlover> i have three pcs and i am experimenting on them with a small network using a router. this is going fine and i can share the internet, but my resolv.conf is showing my router's ip address as my nameserver. Is is going properly? Or I should change the nameserver as the DNS server of my ISP?
[15:31] <Ambient> linuxlover: your router happen to support dhcp connections? that would be so much easier...
[15:31] <dr_Willis> I always use the routers ip as my nameserver linuxlover
[15:32] <dr_Willis> linuxlover,  either way works here. - if your isp gives you 2 dns servers, you may want to try reversing the order so you might get one with less load. :)  if you set the dns manually.
[15:33] <Dragonath> something is hogging my xine and I want to know what it is so I could shut it down... any ideas?
[15:34] <linuxlover> Ambient: yes, my router is configured for dhcp connections
[15:36] <Ambient> linuxlover: i just find it a lot easier when I have plenty of devices using both wireless and wired connections
[15:36] <Ambient> if I need to I can just bind IP to mac
[15:36] <linuxlover> dr_Willis: thank you for your concern, that you also like the routers ip address as your nameserver. it assured me that i am not going with anything wrong. thank you for giving me this lession.
[15:36] <noaXess> dr_Willis: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016 its a really cool converting interface.. and it works fine..
[15:37] <diceman> hello
[15:38] <linuxlover> Ambient: i also used dhcp because of its ease, as i am a real newbie in this work and working for my learning purpose. anyway, your response assured that i am not going wrong, so i am leaving the matter as usual.
[15:39] <linuxlover> Ambient: Thank you very much for attending my question.
[15:39] <Ambient> np, really
[15:39] <LinuxWorld> ouh...a formal guy ..
[15:39] <LinuxWorld> linuxlover :D
[15:40] <LinuxWorld> anyone managed to run IE7 with ieslinux?
[15:41] <diceman> i try to change my login screen under kde 3xx
[15:41] <diceman> someone can help me ?
[15:41] <diceman> i have already  kdmtheme
[15:43] <BluesKaj> LinuxWorld, there were some IT dudes here who were using IE7 on Linux using wine , but I haven't heard much about it lately
[15:44] <luciano> Oi, algum brasileiro?
[15:44] <LinuxWorld> the thing is i installed it and also the sucky IE6 but only IE6 connects to the internet..IE7 not
[15:44] <LinuxWorld> no idea why.
[15:44] <LinuxWorld> just need this stupid browser to test some websites...
[15:45] <engineer> luciano nao cara
[15:45] <engineer> LinuxWorld try vmware
[15:46] <luciano> engineer, oi. Tu tem como me ajudar com dependências de pacotes quebradas?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> LinuxWorld, http://webexpose.org/2007/01/07/internet-explorer-7-on-linux/ , says ; this won’t give you the IE7 interface running in Linux, but rather the IE7 rendering engine inside the IE6 interface
[15:47] <LinuxWorld> yes i know that
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:47] <LinuxWorld> but it should at least make some connection
[15:47] <LinuxWorld> it wont
[15:47] <engineer> luciano sudo apt-get -f install
[15:49] <luciano> engineer, não funciona. Diz que há uma dependência no pacote libc6, depois disso é tudo redundate. Um pacote depende outro, que depende de outro, que no final, depende do libc6
[15:49] <engineer> installa o libc6
[15:50] <luciano> Já tentei, mas é exeibida uma informação de que o debconf não está instalado. Mas está.
[15:52] <lakis1982> does anyone of u use kaffeine ???
[15:52] <engineer> sure
[15:52] <lakis1982> how do i change the aspect ratio to kaffeine  player ??
[15:53] <engineer> player -> video - aspect ratio
[15:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a safety feature of IE7 - MS has realized how buggy and full of security holes IE7 is, so they've decided to release a patch that keeps it from connecting to the internet at all
[15:53] <javier> hello can someone help me with a screen resolution problem i have??
[15:54] <LinuxWorld> daisuke: talking with me?
[15:54] <LinuxWorld> hehe
[15:54] <engineer> javier Instead of asking whether anyone works with something you need help with, please save time by asking your actual question. If someone knows and wants/has time to help, perhaps he/she will.
[15:55] <LinuxWorld> thats the best patch they could ever release!
[15:55] <lakis1982> but it hasnt aspect ratio 16:9
[15:56] <lakis1982> i found it
[15:57] <javier> ok, im having this resolution problem, my kde desktop is smaller than my screen, here is a screen cap http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=instantnea3qh1.jpg
[15:59] <javier> how do i set a new resolution or what do i modify??
[16:02] <BluesKaj> javier, 'k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.
[16:03] <luciano> Please, may you help me with broken dependencies?
[16:04] <javier> BluesKaj, how do i know my graphics card??
[16:04] <Morslok> July 11th
[16:07] <BluesKaj> javier, lspci -v | grep Video
[16:09] <BluesKaj> javier , or lspci -v | grep VGA
[16:11] <javier> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[16:11] <javier> my video card is not in the hardeware configuration
[16:12] <javier> should i use Intel 965?? even though it has no gm??
[16:17] <BluesKaj> !intel-graphics
[16:28] <BB_Laptop> Mornin all i installed your distro on my desktop had to use text mode it installed well but on reboot it loads all drivers than hangs at the Kubuntu screen the blue bar never moved waited 5 min can you help
[16:34] <ivan_> does anyone know a disk partiton program i ca use??
[16:34] <rickest> gparted
[16:35] <engineer> qtparted
[16:36] <ivan_> which is better??
[16:36] <jpds> !best | ivan_
[16:37] <rickest> they are both just front-ends to parted, google them
[16:37] <ivan_> ok ok thanks
[16:37] <yarddog> what version of kde is kubuntu by default, 8.04
[16:38] <ax56muv> ciao a tutti
[16:39] <Jucato> yarddog: KDE 3.5.9 unless you use the KDE 4 Remix installer
[16:39] <yarddog> ok
[16:39] <hannibal> ihjjjooohmai
[16:39] <hannibal> tag zusammen
[16:40] <luca> ciao
[16:40] <Escaflowne> hi
[16:40] <luca> come istallo amsn su kubundu?
[16:42] <Jucato> !it | luca
[16:42] <luca> ok grassie
[16:42] <kamilsos> english someone?
[16:43] <kamilsos> o well
[16:43] <Escaflowne> adept just updated my kernel and now the installation stopped, it says i modified my menu.lst and it asks for my decision between several options
[16:43] <Escaflowne> now my problem is, i cant choose anything because i cant move or klick anything within the window -_-
[16:44] <JoshOvki> Escaflowne: use the up down arrows
[16:44] <JoshOvki> and Enter
[16:44] <Escaflowne> i already tried that
[16:44] <JoshOvki> and it doesnt move?
[16:44] <Escaflowne> it doesnt move
[16:44] <Escaflowne> so it wont accept enter or anything
[16:45] <JoshOvki> Escaflowne: did you upgrade via command or adept?
[16:45] <Escaflowne> adept
[16:45] <ivan_> rickest, how do i modify the partition i am in, it is blocked??
[16:45] <Escaflowne> i get this little terminal when klicking on "show details"
[16:47] <rickest> ivan_: you can never modify a partition that's mounted for writing. most people use a LiveCD
[16:47] <JoshOvki> Escaflowne: then i have no idea, i always upgrade via terminal
[16:49] <Escaflowne> but it seems like i have no access to it, it just shows me my options and i cant choose anything by clicking or by using the arrow keys
[16:49] <Escaflowne> hmm...
[16:49] <ivan_> rickest, how do i do that?? i burn gparted in someway???
[16:49] <rickest> ivan_: you need to download a LiveCD, burn it to a CD, and boot off that.  gparted has a LiveCD just for that purpose but you can use any LiveCD that includes parted
[16:50] <rickest> ivan_: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:50] <Escaflowne> can i savely close adept while its stuck at this point of the installation?
[16:52] <Escaflowne> also i would like to know how to to delete the old kernel files
[16:52] <ivan_> rickest, ok another question that may solve my problem, ive got ubuntu installed but when i installed kubuntu i cant acces ubuntu even thoguh i can acces to all its files, in the grub i can only fin kubuntu
[16:54] <rickest> ivan_: grub is the wrong place to look.  Do you know if you have xdm/gdm installed?
[16:54] <ivan_> rickest no idea
[16:55] <rickest> ivan_: when you first boot up and you finally get a graphics screen do you have to login or does your whole desktop appear automatically?
[16:56] <ivan_> rickest, i have windows in also so before kubuntu boots i need to chose between several options
[16:57] <rickest> ivan_: right, I understand.  After you select Kubuntu does everything load or does it stop and make you log in at some point?
[16:59] <Escaflowne> ok i canceled adept and killed dpkg and then run dpkg --configure -a and now the installation finished successfully^^
[17:00] <ivan_> rickest, yes i have to put my passw to enter to the desktop
[17:01] <rickest> ivan_: somewhere on that screen is where you should be able to select whether you want Gnome (ubuntu) or KDE (kubuntu)
[17:01] <rickest> ivan_: ubuntu and kubuntu are exactly the same thing except which window manager they start by default, gnome or kde
[17:01] <ivan_> even if they are in different partitions??
[17:01] <ivan_> rickest, even if they are in different partitions??
[17:02] <rickest> ivan_: oh, no
[17:03] <rickest> ivan_: in that case, grub was the right place to look.  you'll need to add an entry to /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to your Ubuntu install
[17:03] <ivan_> rickes, i out that code into konsole??
[17:03] <rickest> ivan_: presumably, yes
[17:04] <eagles0513875> hey room
[17:06] <morslok> how do i change the resolution that the login screen defaults to? for some the login screen is 640x480
[17:07] <ivan_> rickest, do you want me to pastebin my results forom that so u can help me fix it??
[17:07] <eagles0513875> what do i need to focus for the kernel source
[17:08] <rickest> ivan_: I think that will be difficult w/o being there.  You can try, need to paste /boot/grub/menu.lst and the output of 'fdisk -l' (as root)
[17:09] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[17:10] <pteague_work> ok, how do i get dolphin to stop handling protocols & get konqueror to handle them?  i'm using the network folders panel applet & i don't like dolphin
[17:11] <Jucato> !d3lphin | pteague_work (presuming this is KDE 3)
[17:12] <ivan_> rickest, this is gonna be harder my kubuntu is in spanish
[17:12] <ivan_> rickest, the boot menu is in english though
[17:12] <duh> How do I get rid of dolphin and use konqueror as my file browser?
[17:12] <Jucato> !d3lphin | duh (presuming this is KDE 3)
[17:13] <pteague_work> Jucato: thanks, i knew it was a setting in konqueror, but couldn't remember which file assoc to change
[17:13] <rickest> ivan_: I don't think I'll be able to help.  basically, what you're looking to do is add a section to menu.lst that looks just like an existing section, except "root=" should point somewhere else
[17:14] <ivan_> rickest ok, ill fix it later thanks for your help
[17:14] <rickest> ivan_: the "root (hd0,0)" will be different for that section also.
[17:15] <duh> Can I delete d3lphin completely now without screwing stuff up?
[17:15] <duh> I am used to konqueror
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !java64
[17:16] <duh> And really don't want to use anything else
[17:16] <eagles0513875> hey ActionParsnip
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> hey eagles0513875
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> just got ff3
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> not bad
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> just getting java sorted
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> some how
[17:17] <eagles0513875> gmail is lagging a bit
[17:17] <eagles0513875> i need to try out java 64
[17:18] <morslok> does anyone know how to change the resolution the login screen uses?
[17:18] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: what i mean is when u come to scroll in gmail lits slow
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> i use thunderbird for gmail
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> web based email is not my thing
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> has anyone had any luck with 64bit java for firefox???
[17:21] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: getting quite ballzy lol downloading the kernel source and im going ot start customizing it
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> nice one eagles0513875
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> fun and games
[17:22] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: yep if all things go well it will be a part of my clustering distro i wanna make
[17:23] <filo1234> !samba
[17:29] <ixenakis> Good evening :-))
[17:29] <biagidp> I'm running 8.04 and my system is recognizing the two monitors connected to it as one giant monitor.  Can anyone tell me how to get it to properly recognize them as seperate monitors so I can independantly change the resolution?
[17:31] <ivan_> rickest, ill leave my paste bin for my boot list, maybe you can figure it out
[17:31] <ivan_> rickest, http://paste.ubuntu.com/21174/
[17:31] <filo1234> how can i open link from konsole using irssi?
[17:31] <biagidp> I'm running 8.04 and my system is recognizing the two monitors connected to it as one giant monitor.  Can anyone tell me how to get it to properly recognize them as seperate monitors so I can independantly change the resolution?
[17:33] <eagles0513875> where in a kernel is the best place to start customizing
[17:37] <Pennycook> biagidp: Are you using an nVidia card?
[17:37] <biagidp> pennycook: yes
[17:38] <eagles0513875> i have a question in regards to kernel customization can anybody help me with that
[17:38] <Pennycook> biagidp: If you install the nvidia-settings package, you can run nvidia-settings to get a configuration tool.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I thought the basic kernel was built on , so one customizes by compiling them into it. http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch07.pdf
[17:38] <biagidp> Pennycook: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[17:38] <Pennycook> eagles0513875: This channel is for #kubuntu support, I'd recommend looking elsewhere for kernel customization and programming tips.
[17:38] <eagles0513875> Pennycook: k
[17:38] <eagles0513875> *ok
[17:39] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, did you see the URL ?
[17:39] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: im looking at it and i also hopped in kernel channel
[17:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, good !  :)
[17:41] <ShadowKnight> Hello, anyone here?
[17:42] <ShadowKnight> Um... I have a question?
[17:42] <morslok> go ahead and ask
[17:42] <ShadowKnight> Can anyone help me?