[15:23] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: no as the guest account does not have admin access.
[15:23] <jack> passwd? :P
[15:23] <guest-lQTbC8> did not change it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: you could su to another user from the guest account, to one which has suo access and reset your user password there
[15:24] <guest-lQTbC8> the machine is mine
[15:24] <citrix> any suggestions for how to make my speakers work
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: so?
[15:24] <citrix> ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: your system can hold literally billions of accounts.....how is ownership a factor?
[15:24] <holstein> guest will not have permission to change passwords.. i would use the recovery console, guest-lQTbC8
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: if you only have one account, you can use this guide and reset your password in a root console: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[15:25] <guest-lQTbC8> i mean, is weird as i didn't change the password
[15:25] <lastarms> citrix: no offense but, care to try restarting your computer?
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: well someone with access in whatever ways you have enable / configured, has set it
[15:26] <citrix> lastarms, I did tht also but still same problem, no volume in vlc and nor in youtube videos
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: why is ownership a factor? I have many machines, all with a smattering of users who could possibly use the passwd command on my account. Doesn't mean anything that you own the hardware
[15:27] <lastarms> citrix: try checking if you updated something
[15:27] <arcimboldo> is there a way to tell libvirt-bin to save the status of a VM at shutdown?
[15:27] <citrix> I didn't .. :(
[15:28] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionParsnip i mentioned that cause this could have been a stolen machine and I wanted to break in
[15:28] <holstein> guest-lQTbC8: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword will reset the password.. not the guest account
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> citrix: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:28] <lastarms> citrix: the only think I can think of that changes audio settings are something that meddles with the libraries
[15:29] <lastarms> citrix: which means that something must have been changed...
[15:29] <emmanuel_> hi
[15:29] <lastarms> hi emmanuel_
[15:29] <boy_wanders> anyone here know how to solve a mouse not clicking on windows until I log out and log back in?
[15:29] <citrix> ActionParsnip, is that the link to install some thing?
[15:30] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd
[15:30] <boy_wanders> Madcatz R.A.T 3 for reference
[15:30] <lastarms> boy_wanders: ermm... how does that have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> citrix: the link is part of the command I gave
[15:30] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionParsnip cracked minecraft couldn't have cause it?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> citrix: it will give a tonne of sound system infrmation, we can then advise better
[15:30] <boy_wanders> lastarms well it works in windows and it can only click on the side bar and top bar in ubuntu so yes
[15:31] <lastarms> boy_wanders: try doing a full shutdown before you start back to Ubuntu
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> guest-lQTbC8: doubt it, the psychocats link I gave will show you how to reset your user pass
[15:31] <lastarms> boy_wanders: if needed, ensure that the power is completely off
[15:31] <Na3iL> hello all :D
[15:31] <lastarms> Hi Na3iL
[15:31] <citrix> yes it is showing informtion ActionParsnip
[15:31] <boy_wanders> I have tried disconnecting my computer from the mains, it still doesn't solve anything
[15:31] <guest-lQTbC8> ActionPArsnip and holstein thanks a million (if it'll work)
[15:32] <Na3iL> hiya lastarms hows u
[15:32] <emmanuel_> my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work
[15:32] <lastarms> your mouse works on Windows but not in Ubuntu?
[15:32] <lastarms> boy_wanders: what mouse is it?
[15:32] <citrix> ActionParsnip,  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=72c0f18f087a2200571735d32f62028fe54aa1e7
[15:32] <Na3iL> it's a nice day for opening ubuntu and get a cup of coffee xD & of course some hacking tips
[15:32] <lastarms> Na3iL: not so good... using 3G to chat here is a little horrible
[15:32] <boy_wanders> when I first sign in I can click applications on the taskbar to start them but when the program runs I can't click anything in it
[15:32] <boy_wanders> to solve I have to log out and back in
[15:32] <lastarms> Na3iL: bad 3G too... MOSh is helping though
[15:32] <emmanuel_> tried many times but didnt work wondr why
[15:33] <boy_wanders> at which point it works
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> citrix: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[15:33] <Na3iL> not olny u lastarms, here too in TUNISIA 3G is tottaly horrible
[15:33] <lastarms> boy_wanders: what mouse are you using?
[15:33] <boy_wanders> lastarms, Madcats rat 3
[15:33] <lastarms> Na3iL: I'm in Indonesia.... 3G here is 2G in America...
[15:33] <citrix> Bodhi 2.0.0 \n \l ActionParsnip
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> citrix: not supported here
[15:34] <emmanuel_> im using ubuntu 14.04 alTS
[15:34] <lastarms> boy_wanders: lolz sorry I have no clue what that is, and no way to use google... is that usb mouse? ps2? smart mouse? or built-in?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !bodhi
[15:34] <Na3iL> lol xD in tunisia 3G is like edge xD lastarms
[15:34] <citrix> ActionParsnip, but using ubuntu repos
[15:34] <boy_wanders> USB gaming mouse with a variable DPI
[15:34] <lastarms> Na3iL: hehe you feel my pain then
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> citrix: doesnt matter, this is ubuntu support
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> citrix: you arent using ubuntu
[15:34] <lastarms> boy_wanders: connected via cable?
[15:34] <boy_wanders> yes
[15:35] <Na3iL> lastarms,  yup bro same feeling absuletly
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> citrix: there in #bodhilinux where your distribution is supported
[15:35] <lastarms> boy_wanders: might be the drivers then... try looking online for a driver that is compatible with it
[15:35] <priuon> what good alternatives to python can 'you recommend' / 'ubuntu offer' ?
[15:35] <citrix> ActionParsnip, can you still give me any suggestion
[15:35] <m__> 0
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> citrix: yes, join #bodhilinux
[15:35] <boy_wanders> lastarms, I'll go look and I will return with an update :)
[15:35] <lastarms> boy_wanders: I hope you find it
[15:36] <boy_wanders> thank you :)
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives | citrix
[15:36] <citrix> Ok
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> citrix: none of the 'ubuntu based' distributions are supported by the Ubuntu community, it has its own community. Just as Ubuntu is based on Debian, the Debain community will not support Ubuntu
[15:38] <lastarms> citrix: might sound harsh, but the truth is they will be able to help you more than us here
[15:38] <Na3iL> who knows here how to work with GDB GNU DeBugger ? any advices or tips for it ?
[15:38] <lastarms> citrix: some derivatives actually change a lot of core libraries and kernels...
[15:38] <citrix> Okk
[15:39] <lastarms> citrix: makes it hard for people to help because it doesn't affect other distros
[15:39] <citrix> but all the ubuntu fashion is followed on bodhi
[15:39] <lastarms> citrix: kinda a reason why many people hates Unity but still uses Ubuntu
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> citrix: still not supported here, Bodhi has its own community and support network which is seperate to Ubuntu's
[15:39] <hotsatellite> !ppa
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: you dont have to use Unity in Ubuntu
[15:40] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: yep. It comes preinstalled with it though. The Desktop anyway
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: install minimal then install what you want.....
[15:40] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: There are many Linux users who are not experts and have no idea that they can uninstall Unity and install gnome etc
[15:41] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: regardless they'll use Ubuntu just for the support
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: when you use Unity, you are using Gnome
[15:41] <citrix> ActionParsnip, I installed bodhi as it is suitable i read over some where for netbooks
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: Unity is a plugin for Compiz, you are still  using the Gnome DE
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> citrix: thats fine
[15:42] <lastarms> Na3iL: try googling for a guide. will be much better than asking here
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> citrix: Lubuntu is great for low end PCs, and is supported here
[15:42] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: oh! I didn't know that.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I believe they are working on Unity being a DE but its still as it was
[15:43] <citrix> I will try it.
[15:43] <Na3iL> lastarms, I did it already but nothing interssted , I didn't find any tuto for it which how u can crack a program or get the password  for this program using assembly
[15:43] <lastarms> Na3iL: huh? you're trying to use GDB for what?
[15:44] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I see... it's been a while since I have a computer that can run the Desktop version of Ubuntu...  I didn't know that that's possible...
[15:47] <lastarms> You have to have the source code to compile the program to be debuggable to be readable to GDB
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: yes its just a shell. You can diable Unity and install gnome-panel if you like.
[15:47] <brunojcm> hey everyone! i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i want to compile eglibc-2.15 using 32 bits i386. can anyone give any help on how to do this?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: its heavier because (as far as I know) the default WM in Gnome is mutter, rather than fat, slow Compiz
[15:47] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I'll tell that to the next people that tels me they hate unity
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I just hate compiz.
[15:48] <Na3iL> well lastarms u can get the code source of any program using gdb on linux distros and u can use OllyDbg on winbug
[15:48] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: that make sense, compiz is really heavy even on an i7 computer...
[15:48] <lastarms> brunojcm: I don't get your question
[15:49] <lastarms> brunojcm: you are using 12.04 32-bit? and you want to compile 32 bit
[15:49] <lastarms> if not then you have to install the 32-bit libraries
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: I just find it unstable. I'm an OpenBox guy :)
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> !away > dkn64738_afk
[15:50] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: I like openbox. except that I keep deleting my system without backing up the configuration
[15:50] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd, my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work? tried many times but didnt work wonder why
[15:50] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: and reconfiguring your preferences from scratch is a hassle
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: i guess, backups are handy though :)
[15:51] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: true... unless your hdd dies... *sigh*
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> lastarms: thats why we have backups....USB drives are super cheap, as is dropbox storage
[15:53] <lastarms> ActionParsnip: unless you live where I live. Then USB is expensive and dropbox is unusable do to our awesome internet speed... *sigh*
[15:53] <lastarms> I hate my country...
[15:55] <brunojcm> lastarms: no, i am using a 64-bit version
[15:55] <rymate1234> Any tips for speeding up ubuntu when its bring run off a USB stick?
[15:55] <lastarms> brunojcm: you need the ia32 or something like that
[15:55] <rymate1234> Ubuntu is actually installed on the stick,  not as a live cd
[15:56] <lastarms> rymate1234: not really... although, you can try using USB 3
[15:56] <brunojcm> lastarms i was using dpkg-architecture -ai386 -c dpkg-buildpackage
[15:56] <rymate1234> I don't have USB 3.0
[15:56] <lastarms> have you installed the 32-bit library?
[15:56] <rymate1234> I dunno why it's so slow a live usb ran fine
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: The reason you feel slow is mostly because it's paging I would think
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: you have your "home"folder there
[15:57] <rymate1234> Is there a way to reduce paging then?
[15:57] <brunojcm> lastarms: ia32-libs is installed, yes
[15:57] <brunojcm> is that what you meant?
[15:57] <lastarms> rymate1234: when you were running the live cd, it's running on RAM
[15:57] <lastarms> brunojcm: yeah
[15:57] <rymate1234> Ah that'll be why
[15:58] <rymate1234> Damn
[15:58] <lastarms> brunojcm: I'm not sure why then...
[16:01] <brunojcm> lastarms: thank you anyway! i think i will try this idea i saw on the debian wiki
[16:01] <brunojcm> with dchroot
[16:02] <emmanuel_> trying to install hostapd, my lspci -k | grep -A 3 -i "network" is  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge. will hostapd work? tried many times but didnt work wonder why
[16:04] <lastarms> brunojcm: bests of luck!
[16:10] <sj99> Hey. I have a 2560x1440 monitor, but that resolution isn't listed in the system settings. Any help on how to fix this would be much appreciated.
[16:11] <XaT> sj99, try sudo init 0 in a terminal
[16:12] <AaronCampbell> I recently set up 14.04 on a new Asus S400C laptop. Everything seemed to work great, then today I plugged in a headset and while the sound went through the headphones, it didn't seem to recognize the Mic. It uses a single plug like modern cell phones. Anyone know what I can do to get it working with a Mic?
[16:12] <guest-Ct3tJ5> ActionParsnip was following the link
[16:12] <buratino> Was it working with previous versions of ubuntu?
[16:13] <guest-Ct3tJ5> after the command mount -0 rw, remount /, had the "manipulation error of the authentification token"
[16:13] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did ls /home anyway
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: its -o not -0
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: lowercase o for oscar
[16:13] <Pici> XaT: don't do that.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: no space afer the comma either
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> anywas
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> after ls home
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did passw
[16:14] <guest-Ct3tJ5> and offered me to cahnge it
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: you didnt do it right, so what did you expect
[16:15] <sj99_> Hey. Whoever suggested sudo init 0 - thanks, that led to immediate shutdown. Here's my problem again: I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:15] <guest-Ct3tJ5> yet, in the end the message was special device passw does not exist
[16:16] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Did your mic work with previous versions of Ubuntu?
[16:16] <guest-Ct3tJ5> did in lowercase
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: the command is 'passwd'
[16:16] <guest-Ct3tJ5> yes
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: 'passwd foo'   if your username is 'foo'
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: but you didnt mount the file system writable, so it won't work
[16:17] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Never had previous versions on this new laptop
[16:17] <AaronCampbell> And the built-in mic works, but plugging in a headset doesn't allow you to use the mic on the headset
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> will retry it, but think I did it as in the manual
[16:18] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  What kind of headset?
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> upon the boot, it offers me a few versions of ubuntu 13
[16:18] <guest-Ct3tJ5> chosen the last one
[16:18] <AaronCampbell> Just Samsung earbuds/mic...single 1/8" jack
[16:18] <krsto> hi
[16:19] <holstein> AaronCampbell: the input either works with that input or not. could be, and typically is, the laptop has headphone *then mic input.. if joined in one jack for a phone the hardware cant use it
[16:19] <holstein> AaronCampbell: dont assume its a limitation of any software or operating system..
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: there isnt an 'ubuntu 13'
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-Ct3tJ5: there is Ubuntu 13.04 and Ubuntu 13.10
[16:20] <sj99_> I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:20] <AaronCampbell> holstein: Well, when Windows was on the laptop the same headset worked as headphones/mic
[16:20] <krsto> i have problem with wlan interface on ubuntu server 14.04
[16:21] <holstein> AaronCampbell: ok.. then i use pavucontrol to route inputs and outputs.. try getting applications started, and route
[16:21] <krsto> there are 2 wlan cards one is realtek 8185l second is atheros 5213
[16:21] <krsto> when i did sudo ip link set wlan0 up
[16:21] <krsto> computer freezee
[16:21] <krsto> but on wlan 1 work nomal
[16:21] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Have you installed the newest driver for your mic on ubuntu?
[16:21] <genii> krsto: Which one is the wlan0?
[16:21] <krsto> both card works fine on win xp
[16:22] <krsto> or via live lubuntu
[16:22] <holstein> krsto: xp support will be irrelevant. and only tell you the hardware is functional
[16:22] <krsto> i know that hardware is duncional
[16:22] <krsto> but i cant use it in ubuntu servrer
[16:22] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Not that I'm aware of, I've applied all updates, but not installed anythign specific for my mic
[16:23] <krsto> still it works with live lubuntu
[16:23] <krsto> i dont have a clue
[16:23] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Do you happen to know the exact model for the headset?
[16:23] <AaronCampbell> buratino: There won't be any drivers for that...
[16:24] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  That's fine, I just want to look something up.
[16:24] <AaronCampbell> I think they're these ones: http://www.a4c.com/product/samsung-ehs44assbe-3-5mm-hands-free-stereo-headset-black.html?gclid=CPfsvJepgb8CFQODaQodxLMAng
[16:25] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  Oh, I suppose I missed where you said there was a single jack.
[16:25] <sj99_> I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:25] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking the issue likely is
[16:26] <krsto> guys?
[16:26] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  That's what I'd bet.  Did the mic magically work on Windows (or any other OS)?
[16:27] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Yes, worked on Windows 8 that came on the machine
[16:28] <guy> Hi.  Since installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, DBUS doesn't seem to work.  I get "Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ou6Johku99: Connection refused" for several applications.  dbus-daemon is running, but the temporary directory it refers to doesn't exist.
[16:29] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  What soundcard and driver are you using?
[16:29] <sj99_> Hey. I have a 2560x1440 resolution, but it's not listed in the system settings. Any help would be much appreciated.
[16:30] <varun_> krsto, show us what cards+drivers you have, the output of - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: how can you have it, if it's not listed?
[16:30] <Guest86260> \nick guyg
[16:30] <krsto> Ok
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest86260: other way '_
[16:30] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: That's the resolution of my monitor
[16:30] <krsto> wait a second
[16:30] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  `lspci | grep -i audio` ought to find it
[16:31] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Are you asking...Thanks
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo dmidecode -t 1
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: use a pastebin to host
[16:31] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[16:32] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/XjSBdP0P
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: the rsolution of the monitor is whateverit is at now. the fact that your monitor can do 2560x1440 is another matter
[16:32] <krsto> varum_
[16:32] <krsto> varun_
[16:33] <krsto> where i can copy output?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: 13.10 is EOL in about 4 weeks time. You may want to consider an upgrade to 14.04 either by online update, or via a clean install
[16:33] <varun_> !pastebin | krsto
[16:34] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: sure, but i've had this issue in several versions. i'm not sure upgrading will solve it.
[16:34] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  I believe there's a config option you can change and test, but I don't remember what it is.  I'm looking for it now.
[16:34] <krsto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7659242/
[16:35] <krsto> hope that i did right
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> sj99_: newer kernel....newer driver with support for newer hardware..........
[16:35] <Guest85758> I want a site to "see" me as if I am in the USA, though I am not there.  Would it be possible to use a proxy server for that?
[16:36] <sj99_> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll try. thanks.
[16:37] <varun_> krsto, is the atheros one "wlan0"?
[16:37] <krsto> yes
[16:38] <buratino> AaronCampbell:  I can't find it.  For now, can you use your internal microphone and take the issue to the forums?
[16:39] <pangaea_>  having a hard time w/ ubuntu studio 14.04 getting connected to yahoo chat, any ideas??
[16:39] <Guest85758> Am I on the right channel?
[16:39] <Guest85758> pangaea_: hard time?  Problems?  What kind of hard time?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: what are you using to connect to the service?
[16:40] <pangaea_> trid pingiun, ...well all of them really from software center
[16:40] <holstein> pangaea_: is yahoo chat up? if they are down, or offline, or having server issues, you wont be able to connect.. confirm your credentials.. try the yahoo service online to confirm
[16:40] <pangaea_> just says invalid cannot connect i set my firewall and forwards up
[16:40] <holstein> pangaea_: you shouldnt need to set any firewall rules..
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: do you mean pidgin?
[16:41] <holstein> pangaea_: try the yahoo site..
[16:41] <pangaea_> yeah
[16:41] <MuffinMedic> I'm trying to change my hostname and i have this in /etc/hosts: <IP_ADDRESS>       WebServices WebServices
[16:41] <pangaea_> works on firefox
[16:41] <MuffinMedic> Why is WebServices there twice and what does it represent each time?
[16:41] <holstein> pangaea_: ok.. do yahoo say you can use pidgin?
[16:41] <varun_> krsto, I know the current version of ath5k is buggy, but can't think of a reason for system freeze. Maybe a detailed report could give some hint. Try this script to generate the report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: have you contacted Yahoo to see if their settings have changed?
[16:42] <pangaea_> pidgin won't work either
[16:42] <Pici> MuffinMedic: First is the fqdn (not really needed for internal servers) and the second is an alias.
[16:42] <krsto> varun_ Ok
[16:42] <pangaea_> i had to set up fprward on my modem, no choice w/ timewarner
[16:43] <Pici> MuffinMedic: make sure you change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname though.
[16:43] <holstein> pangaea_: pidgin may not *ever* work.. did yahoo say it would?
[16:43] <pangaea_> pt/forward sorry
[16:43] <pangaea_> well i had ububtu 14.04 lts and it workd fine
[16:44] <pangaea_> but switched to studio cause i write music...now dead on chats
[16:44] <pangaea_> no unity scopes
[16:45] <holstein> pangaea_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. its not breaking yahoo chat
[16:45] <varunendra> krsto, I may not hang around for long here. If you can't get help, try posting a thread at ubuntuforums.org , and post the script output there. You may PM me on the forum if you wish (my user id is varunendra there)
[16:45] <pangaea_> hey holstien you helped me with jack!...thanks man got it all figured out was a pulse issue btw
[16:45] <holstein> pangaea_: whatever you used for yahoo chat in ubuntu will work with ubuntustuduio
[16:45] <pangaea_> yeah but did it through scope
[16:46] <pangaea_> unity
[16:46] <holstein> pangaea_: you can add unity and a scope if you like
[16:46] <holstein> pangaea_: but, you *can* get yahoo working with something that supports yahoo and yahoo supports
[16:46] <pangaea_> in cross platform?
[16:46] <causative> so... I have downloaded the ubuntu 14.04 iso for my system (1 G in size), I have used fdisk to partition a USB stick so it has two partitions, the second of which is marked executable and is 5G in size.  I have then done dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb2.  There is now a filesystem at /dev/sdb2 but my computer won't boot from it (yes I set it to boot from USB in BIOS)
[16:47] <causative> am I missing a step? did I do something wrong?
[16:47] <pangaea_> causitive sounds like he needs boot repair
[16:47] <causative> oh I think I see something, I had the partition marked "linux" but the image is iso9660
[16:48] <MuffinMedic> ok Pici , i will change both, thanks. can the alias be any nickname i give the server?
[16:48] <pangaea_> what do you suggest ??
[16:49] <pangaea_> only chat that works is this one...lol
[16:49] <causative> or should it be marked linux, maybe that's not wrong?
[16:49] <Pici> MuffinMedic: anything you want, although typically one is the fqdn and the other is the same without the fully qualified part. i.e. (google.com and google)
[16:49] <pangaea_> and skype
[16:49] <MuffinMedic> ok thanks Pici
[16:50] <MuffinMedic> and /etc/hostname is the FQDN or the alias?
[16:51] <causative> is it a problem that /dev/sdb2 and /path/to/ubuntu.iso have different md5sums?
[16:51] <causative> or is that just expected
[16:51] <holstein> !info empathy
[16:52] <pangaea_> @holstein one more thing the default LMMS that comes with studio is buggy and crashes a lot, is there something wrong?
[16:52] <holstein> pangaea_: i would just try whatever yahoo says they support.. or whatever is stated to have yahoo supprot
[16:52] <holstein> !bug | pangaea_
[16:52] <pangaea_> i'm surfing for it now,
[16:52] <holstein> pangaea_: i dont use lmms.. but, when i have tested, it worked better without jack
[16:52] <causative> or is the problem that I wrote the image to /dev/sdb2 instead of to /dev/sdb?
[16:52] <pangaea_> yeah it keeeps crashing, none of the others do
[16:52] <holstein> causative: i write to the entire disk.. dd copying the image to the location
[16:53] <holstein> causative: if i wanted to try a partition like that, i would try unetbootin
[16:53] <causative> yes but I wanted to preserve some of the USB stick for later use
[16:54] <pangaea_> thanks holstein ....no jack w/lmms....will try, and surfing for answers for yahoo compliant w/studio
[16:55] <pangaea_> oops
[16:56] <holstein> pangaea_: dont
[16:56] <leeyaa> hello
[16:56] <pangaea_> i'm trying to log out
[16:56] <holstein> pangaea_: you dont need "compliant with studio".. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. so, you need compliant with yahoo and ubuntu.. not studio
[16:57] <causative> when using dd to write an ubuntu ISO should I write directly to the device /dev/sdb or should I write to a partition such as /dev/sdb2?
[16:57] <holstein> pangaea_: to search "yahoo with ubuntustudio" is to uncessarily narrow your search
[16:57] <leeyaa> i am trying to create ubuntu server startup disk from another ubuntu box. for some reason make startup disk is grayed out
[16:57] <leeyaa> any idea what could be the reason ?\
[16:57] <leeyaa> im using external usb drive
[16:57] <holstein> causative: thats what im stating i do, and the directions i find state.. i do not try dd copy do a partition, but the image to the entire device
[16:57] <leeyaa> ubuntu 12.04
[16:58] <holstein> leeyaa: you can also dd copy the iso.. or use unetbootin
[16:58] <pangaea_> unity was so much easier
[16:58] <leeyaa> holstein: unetbootin doesnt see my usb drive
[16:58] <holstein> leeyaa: then, i would say, yo uhave a bad stick
[16:59] <pangaea_> ok i'll take advice off search, you got your hands full, peace
[16:59] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip hi again
[16:59] <holstein> leeyaa: or, no permission..
[16:59] <leeyaa> it isnt a stick holstein it is external drive and it is working fine on other oses. im doing everything as root or sudo
[16:59] <pangaea_> i had to use scandisk for mine
[16:59] <pangaea_> just saying
[16:59] <guest-dZEyWS> mounted it as read write, as did the first time too
[17:00] <LukeS> Stupid Question, Is there a way to install GNOME so that I can select between GNOME and Unity 8 on login?
[17:00] <guest-dZEyWS> but again, after passwd username, it allows me to type the new password, and retype it, yet reports with the same messafe
[17:00] <holstein> leeyaa: could be, as a protection, unet is not allowing you to access the drive.. i remember a checkbox that allows selecting drives there, with a warning.. a valid warning
[17:00] <guest-dZEyWS> ...message
[17:00] <leeyaa> wou;ld something like this work ? sudo dd if=ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb
[17:00] <leeyaa> holstein: what checkbox
[17:01] <guest-dZEyWS> manipulation error of the authentification token
[17:02] <holstein> leeyaa: in unetbootin.. beside where you choose the drive.. a checkbox that states "i want to use the drives, not just usb sticks"
[17:02] <causative> leeyaa, it might work, as it happens I just issued the exact same command
[17:02] <causative> to the letter, except I added bs=1M
[17:02] <causative> oh also it was 14.04
[17:02] <holstein> leeyaa: "show all drives (use with care)"
[17:02] <leeyaa> holstein: i don thve it
[17:02] <leeyaa> hm
[17:03] <holstein> leeyaa: then, get the version that does.. its a safety.. or use a usb stick
[17:03] <causative> alright well thanks holstein I'll see if this works
[17:04] <guest-dZEyWS> holstein on the issue to change the password, the link to psychocats.net
[17:04] <leeyaa> holstein: i downloaded latest version from their website same thing
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: wassup
[17:04] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip
[17:05] <guest-dZEyWS> so, remounted it as read-write, again
[17:05] <AaronCampbell> buratino: Thanks for your help...I just opened http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230136&p=13052177 so if you have any additional info to drop there, it would be appreciated
[17:05] <holstein> leeyaa: then, you see the option to allow you to choose the drives you want to use?
[17:05] <leeyaa> holstein: nope
[17:05] <holstein> leeyaa: you are not intended to be able to break the system by choosing normal drivs
[17:05] <guest-dZEyWS> but again, after passwd username, it allows me to type the new password, and retype it, yet reports with the same message
[17:05] <holstein> drives*
[17:05] <leeyaa> i mena i see usb and hdd drives
[17:06] <leeyaa> but i can choose just hdd /
[17:06] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip, when i shift and reboot
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: you could try a chroot from liveCD
[17:06] <holstein> leeyaa: you see http://www.pendrivelinux.com/wp-content/uploads/Using-UNetbootin-Net.png "show all drives"
[17:07] <guest-dZEyWS> it offers me Advanced option for Ubuntu
[17:07] <leeyaa> i dont have it :D
[17:07] <holstein> leeyaa: ok.. dd copy the iso then
[17:07] <leeyaa> is it sudo dd if=ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ? or sdb ?
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> and within it: http://oi62.tinypic.com/2d0ma76.jpg
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> ...where from i choose the second
[17:08] <holstein> leeyaa: you need to be sure what those are.. and i dont and cant knoe
[17:08] <holstein> know*
[17:08] <leeyaa> well does it have to be a partition (sdb1) or drive (sdb)
[17:08] <guest-dZEyWS> ActionParsnip, should I maybe choose some previous
[17:09] <holstein> leeyaa: look and see.. if i were unsure, i would go buy a usb stick and use unetbootin
[17:10] <pangaea_> holstein this is what i found out
[17:10] <pangaea_> Available versions
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 13.10
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 13.04
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 12.10
[17:10] <pangaea_>     Ubuntu 12.04
[17:10] <unopaste> pangaea_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:10] <holstein> pangaea_: you stated you were using it in main ubuntu 14.04
[17:10] <mitzie> msg NickServ identify virus314
[17:11] <holstein> mitzie: you need to change that password *now*
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> oh my
[17:11] <pangaea_> yeah no pigin for 14.04 or so it says, i just tried to use it again and it's what yahoo suggested
[17:11] <OerHeks> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[17:11] <holstein> pangaea_: ok.. then, stop trying pidgin, if yahoo doesnt support pidgin in 14.04
[17:12] <holstein> pangaea_: if they do support it then ask them for support. otherwise, i would just keep trying things til something works
[17:12] <genii> !info pidgin
[17:12] <pangaea_> sorry bout the paste thing man, didn't know
[17:12] <simpleuser> My php5-cli crashes on Lubuntu 14.04, but no error in /var/log/apache2/error.log. What can I do? :'(
[17:12] <genii> I suspect a typo. eg: pigin versus pidgin
[17:12] <simpleuser> Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617171643AA8LFyw
[17:13] <holstein> pangaea_: are you able to launch the application? pidgin ?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: try one of those servers
[17:14] <pangaea_> yeah it launches then says unable to verify
[17:14] <Daniela21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/1lvQiSM
[17:14] <OerHeks> uh oh, Daniela21, wrong channel to spam
[17:14] <pangaea_> why is copy and paste so buggy in studio man...argg
[17:15] <holstein> pangaea_: its not here.. could be you are used to unity and not xfce.. what do i suggest? just use main ubuntu with unity and add whatever audio packages you like to it
[17:16] <pangaea_> tried that, need the low latency kernels
[17:16] <holstein> pangaea_: sure.. add that as well
[17:16] <pangaea_> btw i went to that page and figured out whats wrong, man your good
[17:16] <WilsonMathew> I got this dublicate message: http://codepad.org/Li4i9yCa, when I do "sudo apt-get update", what can I do to solve it?
[17:16] <holstein> pangaea_: its in the main repos, and you can add it to main ubuntu
[17:16] <pangaea_> what low latency???
[17:17] <holstein> pangaea_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. thus, having access to the same kernel. you add it.. thats what i was referring to above..*whatever* audio packages you want
[17:18] <pangaea_> ok so they are the same just using cross platform with inherent low latency then??
[17:18] <holstein> pangaea_: im not sure what you are asking with the term "cross platform".. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. not a different platform in any way
[17:19] <holstein> pangaea_: if you want main ubuntu with the lowlatency kernel, add it. if you want unity in ubuntustudio, add it..
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> guest-dZEyWS: previous what? that isnt a full sentence.....
[17:19] <simpleuser> No one for my PHP-CLI crash? :'(
[17:19] <OerHeks> if you *really* need lowlatency kernel, i would stick with Xfce Xubuntu desktop on ubuntu-studio
[17:19] <genii> WilsonMathew: Looks like you have two entries with duplicates in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. Probably want to edit it with admin rights and remove the duplicates.
[17:20] <pangaea_> i can do as i wish as long as i stay deb based then
[17:20] <holstein> OerHeks: why? the desktop has *nothing* to do with latency or the kernel..
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; grep -v ^$ /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | sort | pastebinit
[17:21] <holstein> pangaea_: no.. ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. this is not a deb based thing.. they have the same sources, friend.. they are the same.. just different default setups and packages installed
[17:23] <pangaea_> ok i'm clear on that issue, right now i'm on xfce with gnome built in
[17:23] <holstein> pangaea_: not likely
[17:23] <causative> drom
[17:23] <holstein> pangaea_: gnome is not "built in" to xfce
[17:23] <guygr> Hi.  After switching to proprietary nvidia drivers, dbus doesn't work properly.  dbus-daemon is running, but anything that uses it gets "Connection refused".  If I kill it, unset the DBUS_... environment variable and restart it it works again.  I can also switch back to using nouveau and everything's fine again (but without any 3D acceleration, obviously).  Any thoughts?
[17:24] <pangaea_> wow guygr i did the same thing and went back to xorg
[17:24] <holstein> guygr: i would use the open drivers if they are "better" for your needs
[17:25] <pangaea_> the new drivers for my radeon work great guygr
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> guygr: do you intend to run 3D games?
[17:25] <guygr> not really.  I'm developing 3d stuff, and with nouveau I just get a blank screen.  speed's not important, but some 3d is
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> guygr: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:26] <pangaea_> i have 3d with xorg on my ati 4670
[17:26] <holstein> guygr: you may not get 3d in linux with that hardware..
[17:26] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, I dont have "pastebinit "installed, but when I did "sudo apt-get install pastebinit", I got: http://codepad.org/TOZavT1z
[17:27] <pangaea_> true i had to buy a pci-e card with 1gb to get it right
[17:27] <guygr> ActionParsnip:  I'm not at that machine at the moment.  This one just says the ubuntu version, which in my case is Xubuntu 14.04 (with i3 WM)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: ok, remove the pipe to pastebinit and make a pastebin of the output manually
[17:28] <jiffe98> so we picked up a couple supermicros which have 10G ethernet ports on them and some that don't, the ones that don't work fine but the ones that do have a problem booting
[17:29] <jiffe98> get a cpu soft lockup
[17:29] <holstein> i might try disabling in the bios..
[17:30] <guygr> holstein: what hardware?  any nvidia card?
[17:31] <holstein> guygr: not "any" card, but they dont promise you linux support, so you may have to make compromises.. if 3d support were missiong critical, i would try and go with something with official linux support
[17:31] <holstein> guygr: you can try the xorg edgers ppa..
[17:32] <ScottyGun> I'm using sirc on 10.04.4 LTS.  Would someone please tell me how to set environment variables like IRCSERVER, IRCNAME, and IRCNICK?
[17:32] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip sorry, could you send me the command again, I think I just delete it. I looked it on history but couldn't find it
[17:32] <dmavroid> Hello everyone. I would like to ask you if I can have steam on my ubuntu 14.04! Also do I have to pay in order to install it? thank you
[17:32] <holstein> !10.04
[17:33] <Artemis3> dmavroid, yes; no.
[17:33] <holstein> ScottyGun: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/sirc.1.html seems to list those
[17:33] <guygr> holstein: the nvidia stuff works nicely until I do a reboot, when it messes up dbus.  My current workaround is to enable the proprietary nvidia when I need it and then go back to nouveau before shutting down
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: clear; grep -v ^$ /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^# | sort > ~/parsnipoutput.txt; gedit ~/parsnipoutput.txt
[17:34] <holstein> guygr: sounds like a nice work around.. have you tried the newer packages in the unsupported ppa?
[17:34] <netameta> how can i uninstall something that i used make install to install ?
[17:34] <causative> I have booted to ubuntu on a USB stick so I can investigate problems with my main ubuntu installation, however when I try fsck /dev/sda3 (my main installation's root filesystem, where I've been having problems) it finishes almost instantly and says it's clean, even though it's 150 GB in size
[17:34] <holstein> netameta: the software might have an uninstaller..
[17:34] <holstein> !info checkinstall
[17:34] <causative> so something must be wrong if it's finishing so quickly
[17:34] <dmavroid> Artemis3, where I can find steam then? Cause I am going to software centre and its not there
[17:34] <netameta> how do i check for that holstein
[17:34] <holstein> netameta: for the future, i think checkinstall will help you make that easier
[17:35] <guygr> holstein: no, that's the xorg-edgers one?  can I just install the nouveau drivers, or do I need a full xorg update at the same time?
[17:35] <holstein> netameta: i ask them.. i look at the software and see if an uninstaller is present.. and ask them for one, or look and see what was installed and how
[17:35] <holstein> guygr: you'd add the ppa and all the newer packages in the source would come in..
[17:36] <rotorgeek> Later all
[17:36] <holstein> guygr: you can pin, but i wouldnt.. i would just be familier with ppa-purge and try them, if you think newer packages may address the issues
[17:37] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, output: http://codepad.org/9LHhvO8h
[17:38] <jhpy1024> Hey guys, my launcher has disappeared :/
[17:38] <dmavroid> found it. thanks anyway
[17:38] <jhpy1024> All i see is the desktop icons
[17:38] <jhpy1024> I'm running 14.04 64bit
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: run:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    and comment out line 2. It should then be clear
[17:38] <ScottyGun> Can anyone help me set IRC environment variables like IRCSERVER, IRCNAME, and IRCNICK?
[17:39] <holstein> jhpy1024: you are running unity? you can try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:39] <holstein> ScottyGun: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/sirc.1.html addresses those specifically
[17:40] <guygr> holstein: thanks, I'll give that a shot.  The proprietary nvidia drivers mess up a whole load of other stuff too (DPI, display output names) so I'd rather avoid them if I can get something 3d working without them
[17:40] <jhpy1024> holstein: I can't open a terminal though. I've tried CTRL+ALT+T and CTRL+ALT+1
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ScottyGun: export IRCSERVER=address
[17:40] <pangaea_> ok got it thanks holstein i had to set my ip address thanks for the link
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: if you look at the lines, you already have restricted set on line 3, so line 2 is a duplicate
[17:41] <pangaea_> ang guy i would stick with xorg
[17:41] <pangaea_> and*
[17:41] <holstein> pangaea_: you mean, "stick with xorg", stick with the open driver?
[17:41] <pangaea_> yup
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> pangaea_: xorg is not the open driver...xorg is xorg, the open driver is the open driver
[17:42] <holstein> pangaea_: nouveau the open driver in this scenario..
[17:42] <pangaea_> the new drivers are great, checked my card in terminal everything is working full 1gb mem and all
[17:42] <ScottyGun> Okay, I used export IRCSERVER=...will those settings stick through a restart?
[17:42] <holstein> ScottyGun: try it and see.. if not, you can edit a config
[17:42] <WilsonMathew> ActionParsnip, Thanks you very much. It worked.
[17:43]  * ScottyGun logging off for reboot...
[17:44] <jhpy1024> unity seems to have disappeared. I've got unity-reset installed but cant run it because I can't open a terminal
[17:44] <jiffe98> anyone running Intel X540 Dual Port 10GBase-T NICs on ubuntu?
[17:44] <jhpy1024> any help?
[17:45] <pangaea_> jhpy1024 did you install something new, like a desktop tweaker
[17:46] <jhpy1024> eugh, unity-reset fails
[17:47] <pangaea_> i reset my unity with synaptics
[17:48] <pangaea_> after boot repair
[17:49] <jhpy1024> this is why i hate linux somtimes -_-
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> WilsonMathew: simple logic dude
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jhpy1024: why, because one (optional) part of it isnt fantastic.....
[17:51] <jhpy1024> ActionParsnip: I don't really mean it, I'm just pissed.  I know my way around the console fairly well and have developed a liking for the simplicity of console mode and how many less distractions there are when using it compared to a desktop environment. I had a few questions that I have already turned to Google for and didn't get really any helpful answers. I am using Kali-linux so there is a bunch of tools
[17:54] <Guest63316>  installed on it the questions I am hoping to find the answers to are the following:
[17:54] <Guest63316> 1.) How light weight is console mode, compared to a desktop environment?
[17:54] <Guest63316> 2.) How would I list all the tools that I currently have installed or that come on Kali I have already done the apt-cache search + the meta-packages names to read their contents but I know there has to be an easier way then doing this.
[17:55] <Guest63316> 3.) What benefits come with using console mode? Why would it be better to use than a desktop environment? besides learning how to operate a computer with commands instead of just point and click.
[17:55] <holstein> !language | jmad980
[17:55] <holstein> jmad980: you just need to elaborate to help a volunteer assist you
[17:55] <holstein> !kali | Guest63316
[17:55] <jhpy1024> so the whole unity launcher has disappeared. rebooting does nothing. unity-reset does nothing. manual reset with dconf does nothing
[17:55] <holstein> Guest63316: you would ask kali about what apps come with it.. but, you can use tty right now, or from a live CD, to see about command line mode
[17:56] <holstein> !tty | Guest63316
[17:56] <jhpy1024> sorry about the swearing btw :X
[17:56] <holstein> jmad980: sorry..
[17:56] <holstein> jhpy1024: ^^
[17:56] <holstein> jhpy1024: what are the errors with trying to reset unity?
[17:57] <Guest63316> Thank you holstein! And console mode would be another channel to?
[17:58] <jhpy1024> holstein: unity-reset says "OSError no such file or directory"
[17:58] <holstein> Guest63316: no.. console mode is just that.. just a console
[17:58] <jhpy1024> manually with dconf says nothing but doesn't work
[17:59] <Guest63316> okay thank you! sorry I am still figuring out linux some appreciate your help! *Gives a virtual high five*
[18:00] <jeroen___> Hello im back
[18:00] <jhpy1024> wtf, unity uninstalled :/
[18:00] <jhpy1024> got it working now
[18:01] <jhpy1024> thanks for putting up with my rage holstein :P
[18:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Wait you uninstalled Unity?
[18:01] <jhpy1024> i didn't, it just uninstalled somehow
[18:01] <holstein> jhpy1024: i suggest, if you want to really mess around with the config, use a live CD.. you can do so without breaking the installed system
[18:01] <Guest63316> Live CD's are great!
[18:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> jhpy1024:Or use backintime to backup your hard drive
[18:02] <jhpy1024> holstein: the weird thing is i wasnt doing anything with the config or whatever, my pc just froze and then unity uninstalled :/
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> jhpy1024: Impossible
[18:02] <holstein> jhpy1024: not likely.. but, if you are back to normal, enjoy
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl need Superuser access to do that
[18:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Unless you run Xorg as Superuser
[18:03] <jhpy1024> well i wasn't in the software center and I wasn't doing anything with apt-get so if it was somehow me, i have no idea how i did it
[18:03] <Jeroen_Mathon> Lemme think
[18:03] <Guest63316> Would running just console mode be more light weight? I know linux is already light but I want to see how light weight I can get before having issues haha
[18:04] <dw1> yes
[18:04] <daviator> hey guys :)
[18:04] <holstein> Guest63316: running any software will not make the hardware any "better" or "faster".. its just doing what it does.. if you want command line, use it.. it will be using less resources if you dont need a GUI.. if you need/want a GUI, you'll have to use those resources running one
[18:05] <holstein> Guest63316: the only issues you would have would be, needing more or different software or services running
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hello daviator
[18:05] <daviator> i have some questions
[18:05] <dw1> Guest63316: you can also use lighter weight desktops. i use "gnome-session-flashback".  install the package and choose it at login screen
[18:05] <ScottyGun> holstein, I wrote those export commands into .bashrc.  Variables are retained after reboot.  Thanks!
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> Sure as kaway daviator
[18:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> ask away*
[18:05] <dw1> Guest63316: list of desktops at http://tinyurl.com/ubdesk
[18:06] <dw1> whats the proper way to specify the screen session with -X?  screen -dmS test; screen -X "echo test" test; doesnt seem to work
[18:06] <Guest63316> Okay I understand thank you again holestein! and yea I have started to realize the amount of extra stuff needed to get all I want in console mode is a pain! and dw1 what is flashback? I thnk I kinda understand from the name of it but could use some clarification
[18:07] <daviator> some where i rad that upgrading linux through update manager is not a good choice
[18:07] <daviator> right?
[18:07] <holstein> Guest63316: lxde is a nice simple light desktop in the repos
[18:07] <dw1> Guest63316: its gnome classic.  gnome 3 disguised as gnome 2, with low to no effects
[18:07] <Jeroen_Mathon> daviator: use apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[18:08] <Guest63316> I like LXDE its got a nice does of KDE to it and dw1 worth a shot I'll try it out and tell you what I think thanks again guys you have both been huge helps in my linux journey!
[18:08] <daviator> what the difference between upgrading through upgmng and command line?
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Command line uses aptitude
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> Its safer then a gui fornt end
[18:08] <Jeroen_Mathon> And more reliable
[18:10] <Guest63316> Okay so I have read many rants about apt VS aptitude and why one is better than the other is one really better than the other to use? Like Jeroen_Mathon makes a good point security is crucial!
[18:10] <daviator> what about packages?
[18:10] <Jonyijoe> Anyone have experience controlling CPU fan speed?
[18:10] <daviator> is there any dofference?
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> Guest63316 apt uses aptitude
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> daviator updatemgr uses aptitude
[18:10] <Jeroen_Mathon> apt-get > aptitude < updatemgr
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> They both are based of debians package manager
[18:11] <Pici> Jeroen_Mathon: apt does not use aptitude.
[18:11] <Jonyijoe> Anyone have experience controlling CPU fan speed? I need to turn mine down as its far too loud
[18:11] <Jonyijoe> driving me nuts haha
[18:11] <Pici> apt-get and aptitude are two different front ends for the apt system.
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thanks Pici your right and Johnyijoe
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> You don't want to slow it down
[18:11] <Pewdiepie> Hello bros
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> If its spinning that hard
[18:11] <Jeroen_Mathon> It got a reason for spinning so hard.
[18:12] <Pici> daviator: There really is no difference between what the command line utilities and the update-manager does.  They access the same packages, just with different client-facing interfaces.
[18:12] <Pewdiepie> oooo
[18:12] <daviator> thanks
[18:12] <daviator> :)
[18:12] <Pewdiepie> nothing
[18:12] <Guest63316> You guys are awesome! thanks so much everyone is there a way to like donate to you guys for your help and stuff?
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Pewdiepie is not from grace
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> I tracked your ip back to greece
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Stop trolling mate this channel is for support
[18:13] <Jonyijoe> Jeoren I have theromal outputs its at 25deg it can operate up to 100deg I just need to turn it down by about 20% till i get a new cpu fan. one of the fins broke off so its loud as hell
[18:13] <Pewdiepie> e?
[18:13] <Jonyijoe> Please help im going insane haha
[18:13] <Jeroen_Mathon> Johnyijoe the more reason ofr it to spin faster
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> Your cpu isnt the only thing being cooled
[18:14] <Guest63316> Jeroen how did you do that? Netstat or is it because of your rank in this irc?
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> I used a website
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> and the whois command on linux
[18:14] <Pewdiepie> i'm just a fun
[18:14] <Pewdiepie> fan*
[18:14] <Jeroen_Mathon> Still this channel is for support
[18:15] <Jonyijoe> I have 5 other fans Jeroen poviding solid airflow. Im not a n00b at this I know my system well. What I dont know is how to controll cpu fan speed in ubuntu
[18:15] <Guest63316> whois is awesome! and you're right I should go if I am done with needing support thanks again you guys!
[18:15] <Jeroen_Mathon> Jonyijoe Lemme take a look at the interwebs
[18:15] <Jeroen_Mathon> Jonyijoe here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fan_Speed_Control
[18:16] <Jonyijoe> Ive been looking for ages, Cant find anything at all accept ways to monitor temps etc
[18:16] <Jonyijoe> ok thanks hold on
[18:29] <luckyboy> en?
[18:29] <Jeroen_Mathon> Hello
[18:30] <luckyboy> hello
[18:30] <Jeroen_Mathon> Something i can help you with?
[18:30] <Guest37130> i am trying to set up a pptp vpn connection and for some reason it will not let me connect to any of the ones that i have tried so far...
[18:30] <asturel> is it a common issue that after a month uptime xorg becomes laggy?
[18:30] <asturel> i mean switching between desktops tooks seconds
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> asturel what desktop enviroment are you currently using?
[18:31] <asturel> the default
[18:31] <asturel> ldm or something like that..
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> Unity?
[18:31] <asturel> yeah
[18:31] <asturel> what comes with default install
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> What is the output of the command df -h
[18:31] <asturel> i have enought space
[18:31] <asturel> maybe the nvidia binary driver is buggy?
[18:31] <Jeroen_Mathon> asturel try the default driver
[18:32] <asturel> but thats slow
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> Or use an source based one those can be tweaked
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> I also use the default one
[18:32] <Jeroen_Mathon> It's reccomended right?
[18:32] <asturel> also the applicaations becomes 'invisible' when i switch to 'grind view' or whatever that
[18:33] <asturel> when i hover it selects the borders but still invisible
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> Did you try reinstalling unity?
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> Or tried using the guest session
[18:33] <asturel> it happens on an another pc too
[18:33] <Jeroen_Mathon> To see if the issues also there.
[18:33] <asturel> to be exact on 3
[18:33] <asturel> all of them installed the same ubuntu
[18:34] <asturel> in 12.x it wasnt like that, but in 13.x
[18:34] <Guest37130> i have tried connection too 5 different pptp vpns and for some reason it will not let me connect to any of them ?
[18:35] <Jeroen_Mathon> What VPN software are you using?
[18:35] <Guest37130> jeroen none
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats the problem
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Try openvpn
[18:36] <Guest37130> openvpn is a vpn client
[18:36] <Guest37130> i am connecting directly to a server
[18:36] <Guest37130> http://vpnonline.org/
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah youl need a client ofr that
[18:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> Client <[18:37] <asturel> Jeroen_Mathon which nvidia driver do u use?
[18:37] <Jeroen_Mathon> I have Intel
[18:37] <Guest37130> damm that shit worked in windows...
[18:37] <asturel> because i saw like 5 from binary drivers
[18:37] <asturel> ah :D
[18:37] <asturel> i have dvga so i would prefer that rather than hd400
[18:37] <asturel> 0
[18:37] <Guest37130> can i connect to a vpn with open vpn with out having my own server?
[18:39] <WilsonMathew> I am trying to install awesomewm but the I got a problem with apt-get that it just shows me an error: http://codepad.org/0LdOguL5
[18:39] <asturel> so it must be the nvidia driver?
[18:39] <Jeroen_Mathon> Closed source drivers aren't being supported by ubuntu
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> They are supported by their vendors
[18:40] <asturel> well i installed from additional drivers or whatever :D
[18:40] <asturel> i guess its the vendor drivers
[18:40] <Guest37130> ubuntu 12.04 is ubuntu 14 right?
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> No
[18:40] <Jeroen_Mathon> 14.1
[18:41] <Guest37130> openvpn only goes in whole numbers
[18:41] <mxvxrts> Guest37130, Both are long term 5 years support
[18:41] <Guest37130> http://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/download-openvpn-as-sw/113.html?osfamily=Ubuntu
[18:41] <asturel> whats the chance that dist upgrade go wrong?
[18:42] <OerHeks> Guest37130, as of 10.04 you can config your VPN in networkmanager
[18:42] <asturel> last time when i tried i ended without xorg and many packages 'corrupted' (they didnt recognized as installed but they were on the system)
[18:43] <Pici> asturel: Are you asking about an apt-get dist-upgrade or a release upgrade?
[18:43] <asturel> release upgrade
[18:43] <asturel> i think
[18:44] <Pici> asturel: Are you asking about upgrading to a new release of Ubuntu?
[18:44] <asturel> yeah.
[18:45] <asturel> i have currently 13.(10?) i want to upgrade to 14
[18:45] <Pici> asturel: There is a chance of failure, which is why we always suggest that you have a backup, or at least a way to recover your needed items if there is indeed a problem.
[18:45] <asturel> u mean backup by cp ?:D
[18:46] <asturel> im rly not into ubuntu
[18:46] <Pici> asturel: backup by whatever means you want.
[18:46] <asturel> ah, i thought there's something like ubuntu backup :D
[18:47] <jcalve34> what is a good replacement for rhythmbox?
[18:47] <Jeroen_Mathon> vlc
[18:47] <jcalve34> and if I want to listen to music instead of watch a movie?
[18:48] <Jeroen_Mathon> vlc is for music and video
[18:48] <Jeroen_Mathon> Tnat or xmms
[18:48] <Guest37130> jeroen do i have to run a vpn client on a different computer from the one that i want to connect to the vpn with ?
[18:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> Yeah
[18:49] <Jeroen_Mathon> Again Client > Connection > Server
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> All Servers must have a client
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats how their programmed
[18:50] <Guest37130> that's the problem i want a vpn that i don't have to have the client on a computer
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> No client no VPN
[18:50] <Jeroen_Mathon> Some distros have clients buildin
[18:52] <Guest37130> so basically i have to create a server with something like hamachi put the client on the server then run the vpn.
[18:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> No hamachi
[18:52] <Jeroen_Mathon> Whats your plan
[18:53] <Guest37130> basically to have create a vpn so that i can rotate my ip adress
[18:53] <Guest37130> or switch between different vpns
[18:54] <Jeroen_Mathon> Why not use a SSh tunnel.
[18:54] <Pici> Guest37130: What is the problem that you are having exactly?
[18:54] <Guest37130> don't i have to have another computer for that as well ?
[18:55] <Jeroen_Mathon> You ssh into the other pc and use that to rotate your ip
[18:55] <Jeroen_Mathon> Youl route your network trough that computer
[18:55] <Guest37130> that's the problem i don't have another computer
[18:56] <PierrePaul> hi everyone, Im trying to make an upstart daemon that's using environment vars specified in /etc/environment
[18:56] <megazorg123> Hi
[18:56] <PierrePaul> I know that in my upstart script, I can do env supervar='supervalue'
[18:56] <PierrePaul> supervar=$SUPERVAR, right ?
[18:57] <Guest37130> basically i need a way to change my ip address as i wish only using one computer
[18:57] <PierrePaul> so I tried exec SUPERVAR='supervalue' /usr/sbin/php5-fpm blabla bla
[18:57] <PierrePaul> but exec() doesnt like this at all
[18:57] <PierrePaul> and I really dont want to wrap it in sudo
[18:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> Why do you want to change your ip
[18:57] <murlidhar> does anyone know if there is any native linux client for tunein radio
[18:57] <Jeroen_Mathon> Not doing anything iligal right? XD ;)
[18:58] <Guest37130> just to bypass bans :P
[18:58] <Pici> Guest37130: We cannot provide support for that here.
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> Indeed
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> Sorry i can't help you on that one
[18:58] <Jeroen_Mathon> people are banned for a reason
[18:59] <Guest37130> for expressing my right of freedom of speech
[18:59] <Jeroen_Mathon> Thats their problem their rules
[18:59] <Jeroen_Mathon> Not ours we can not help you with that
[19:00] <Anarhist> somebody please help. today my mouse has reversed X and Y (when i move up and down the cursor goes left and right, and the other way around), the touch pad still works correctly. i have tried unplugging and pluggin back it and rebooting nothing has helped
[19:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Are you holding your mouse the right way? is it upside down.
[19:01] <Anarhist> Jeroen_Mathon, yes and no
[19:01] <Jeroen_Mathon> Anarhist did you try a different mouse?
[19:02] <Anarhist> Jeroen_Mathon, i don't have another one, so no i didn't
[19:02] <Jeroen_Mathon> Do you have another pc to try that mouse on?
[19:03] <trism> PierrePaul: if you are defining the var in the job you can use the env stanza: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#environment-variables
[19:03] <PierrePaul> trism: yeah that's what I'd like to use
[19:03] <jjavaholic> !deja-dup-monitor
[19:04] <PierrePaul> but the value that I need to set comes from /etc/environment
[19:04] <PierrePaul> and I cant seem to do env myvar=$VAR
[19:04] <Anarhist> bummer, that must be it, the mouse is busted
[19:04] <jjavaholic> !udisksd
[19:04] <Jeroen_Mathon> Good trouble shooting prevents you from busting your system for something that is ahrdware related :)
[19:04] <trism> PierrePaul: I found this http://serverfault.com/questions/128605/have-upstart-read-environment-from-etc-environment-for-a-service kind of old, don't know if things have changed
[19:05] <Jeroen_Mathon> PLeasure to have helped you ^^
[19:05] <Pici> !msgthebot | jjavaholic
[19:05] <PierrePaul> trism: I will try it, I know it works by wrapping it in sudo, but didnt try su
[19:06] <PierrePaul> thanks!
[19:06] <Jeroen_Mathon> Brb
[19:08] <PierrePaul> trism: you're awesome, it works
[19:08] <PierrePaul> thanks again
[19:08] <trism> PierrePaul: excellent
[19:11] <jjavaholic> what does hud-service do?
[19:12] <trism> jjavaholic: tap the alt key
[19:13] <jjavaholic> so without it you don't get the hud overlay?
[19:13] <jjavaholic> any of it?
[19:13] <trism> jjavaholic: you might get the overlay but it queries the hud-service for the information, so it wouldn't be useful
[19:14] <jjavaholic> no app search?
[19:15] <holstein> there are many ways to search apps..
[19:17] <jjavaholic> what does the accounts-daemon do?
[19:18] <seldie> .anonnet.org
[19:18] <trism> jjavaholic: install d-feet and you can explore all those services as much as you want
[19:18] <Pici> jjavaholic: Based on the package it is from, I'd guess provides a set of dbus interfaces for querying and manipulating user account information.
[19:19] <jjavaholic> so it is kinda like the gnome-keyring-daemon?
[19:20] <holstein> jjavaholic: check it out, and see.. they are different..
[19:20] <Pici> jjavaholic: I don't know. I'm just reading the package description for accountsservice, which that binary is in.
[19:20] <holstein> jjavaholic: you can always use a live CD to experiement and poke around a bit more, so you dont break your installed system.. or, just run a full install in virtualbox or virtualization
[19:21] <Carlinhos> i'm having xorg crashes whenever i start a game using the radeon card on a px system; here is my xorg conf: http://pastie.org/9300015 this only happens when using drivers from the oibaf ppa, it works if i revert to ubuntu's repo.
[19:21] <tango__> Hello could anyone help me out with installing drupal7 on an ubuntu server
[19:21] <Kamp> if live cd used, can I repair ubuntu and reset my user password upon boot for sure?
[19:21] <holstein> Carlinhos: the repoones may be the one s you want to use, then.. the ppa is not officially supported
[19:22] <holstein> Kamp: you can reset a password from the recovery console.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:22] <holstein> Carlinhos: the repo one*
[19:23] <Carlinhos> holstein, i would like to figure this one though as the oibaf one gives me better performance. i only have issues after recent updates.
[19:23] <Kamp> holstein, i was under user guest, and you already sent this link, and managed to change it, yet, upon the restart, didn't accept it, and now i cannot even login as guest!
[19:23] <holstein> Carlinhos: sure. but its not officially suppport.. and id say its not "better" if its not running the game you want to use
[19:24] <holstein> Kamp: not likely, friend.. though, you could have any number of larger system issues.. bad/failing hard drive for example
[19:25] <Kamp> holstein will i be able to repair ubuntu with live cd, and reset password ?
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: i have no idea, friend.. it depends on what is broken and how.. and how bad.
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: i can reset passwords with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: sorry.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:26] <OerHeks> Kamp, you need to boot in recovery mode, not guest account, to change password
[19:26] <holstein> Kamp: how did that fail for you specifically?
[19:27] <PierrePaul> trism: so I got it wrong :(
[19:27] <marlinc> For some reason http://localhost/phpmyadmin isn't working when installing phpMyAdmin using the phpmyadmin package
[19:27] <PierrePaul> it's not loading the /etc/environment
[19:27] <Aaraigathor> Anyone know how I can get java to work with the latest Google Chrome on Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:28] <holstein> !java
[19:28] <Kamp> holstein so holstein, already did all that, and managed to reset it (although after chmod 640 /etc/shadow), yet after "password successfully changed", wasn't able to login. now not even as a guest
[19:28] <Aaraigathor> Thanks! Will try and report back
[19:29] <holstein> Kamp: login how.. in tty? whats happening? where? and how?
[19:29] <trism> PierrePaul: really? it worked for my test script
[19:29] <holstein> Kamp: i gave no chmoed 640 to /etc/shadow command or suggestion
[19:29] <holstein> chmod*
[19:29] <Kamp> holstein i browsed it
[19:30] <holstein> Kamp: you should have been able to use the link i gave.. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword what happens when you do *only* that?
[19:30] <holstein> Kamp: are you able to login in tty? or no?
[19:30] <Kamp> holstein i am at the standard ubuntu login window (i reset the password via boot/recovery mode) where i can choose between the users
[19:31] <Kamp> and cannot even login as guest
[19:31] <Kamp> holstein i followed that link
[19:31] <holstein> Kamp: can you login in tty? i think you could be experiencing a UI crash and assuming a credential error.. will you please try logging in in tty?
[19:31] <holstein> !tty
[19:32] <gru_> iwhy is it that I can view my home website from another location but can not ping it OR ssh into it?
[19:32] <holstein> Kamp: if you ran "chmod 640 /etc/shadow".. thats not from the link i gave..
[19:32] <gru_> I am trying to do this from my laptop so it is a Known host
[19:32] <holstein> gru_: your router can block all of that. your isp can as well..
[19:33] <Kamp> holstein as i said i browsed it
[19:33] <holstein> gru_: setting up a webserver doesnt mean you have ssh.. you'd have to set up ssh server and open a port.. forward a port
[19:33] <Kamp> holstein is tty terminal?
[19:33] <holstein> Kamp: its not in the directions, is all.. friend. so you did  *not* follow the link i gave
[19:34] <PierrePaul> trism: will try again with a brand new lxc container
[19:34] <gru_> but im NOT at home... im at another loction all together.. i know that I cant view from the public ip from behind the NAT at home... but im not at home
[19:34] <holstein> Kamp: im just clarifying, if you have issues, and its due to a command i didnt suggest you run
[19:34] <holstein> Kamp: please access a tty terminal and try and login using your user and password
[19:34] <gru_> i have configed ssh
[19:34] <Kamp> holstholstein I canot even access to the ubuntu ui, neither as a guest!
[19:34] <holstein> gru_: you'l have to do that at home.. forward the port
[19:35] <Stevie24> Hello. I'm trying to extract the columns no 2 & 3 (Area Code & prefix) from http://www.area-codes.com/ . If I choose state CA, provider verizon, I get for example about 58 pages ( http://www.area-codes.com/search.asp?SN=acNPA&SO=ASC&pg=1&frmNPA=&frmNXX=&frmCity=&frmState=CA&frmZip=&frmCounty=&frmCompany=cellco&frmLATA=&frmRateCenter=&frmCLLI=&frmNXXUseType=W )
[19:35] <Stevie24>  Is there any way I can extract them or I have to manually copy/paste each of the 58 pages, and then use awk print $2, $3? Thanks in advance.
[19:35] <holstein> Kamp: can you login in tty?
[19:35] <Kamp> wherefrom i would be able to start the terminal.
[19:35] <holstein> !tty | Kamp
[19:35] <holstein> ^ thats where im suggesting you access a terminal, friend
[19:35] <Kamp> tty=terminal?
[19:35] <holstein> Kamp: try logining from tty
[19:35] <gru_> have setup portforward and all that.... i was able to do this yesterday, with the diff being that I was on an ATT network, but now on an comfast 2 miles away
[19:36] <holstein> gru_: if you have a server running, and the port forwarded correctly, and the isp doesnt block it at either location, you'll be able to connect
[19:36] <Kamp> holstein, for the third time, i cannot even access the ubuntu interface
[19:37] <gru_> holstein: i set all of this up from home so i could work on it remotley, im a little rusty but a complete n00b
[19:37] <eightyeight> i need some help building a .deb. i'm using 'python-stdeb' to help me. the output of the script is here: http://ae7.st/p/9an
[19:37] <holstein> Kamp: ok.. you dont need the ubuntu interface to try logging in from tty, friend
[19:37] <Kamp> i am at the login, and cannot even access as a guest!
[19:37] <eightyeight> line 240 shows "dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b xm-cookie-1.31 gave error exit status 1". curious why.
[19:37] <Kamp> tell me the keyboard shortcut than
[19:37] <holstein> Kamp: i understand.. and, from the login screen, please access a tty screen and try and login
[19:37] <holstein> !tty | Kamp
[19:38] <holstein> Kamp: those above *are* the keys
[19:38] <holstein> Kamp: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back
[19:39] <Kamp> holstein did
[19:39] <Aaraigathor> Need help getting Java to work with Google Chrome. Apparently Icedtea doesn't work?
[19:39] <holstein> Kamp: ok.. can you login in tty?
[19:40] <Kamp> holstein, should in tty just try to type the password?
[19:40] <gru_> let me change the firewall settings here.... andsee if that does it
[19:40] <holstein> Kamp: you should tell me if you can login in tty or not
[19:40] <eightyeight> my 'debian/rules' file looks like this: http://ae7.st/p/38u
[19:41] <holstein> Kamp: if you can, then, there is nothing wrong with your credentials.. you are having issues where the UI is crashing, and sending you back to the login screen.. making it seem as though your password is not working.. but, that is not the issue
[19:41] <holstein> Kamp: can you convey the information to me? are you able to login in tty? with your username and password? this will help me determine more about your situation..
[19:41] <Kamp> holstein i was able to login in tty with a password i set following the link you gave me
[19:42] <holstein> Kamp: so, as stated above, the password is *not* the issue
[19:42] <Kamp> holstein guess so
[19:42] <holstein> Kamp: no,. that *is* true.. you *are* logging in
[19:43] <holstein> Kamp: so, you likely had a simple session error.. but, im not sure what all you have done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for you..
[19:43] <Kamp> holstein after the password input, the next line is (myusername)@(computername), so that means i am logged in
[19:43] <Kamp> holstein what should i do next
[19:43] <Kamp> ?
[19:44] <holstein> Kamp: correct.. your are in.. your password works.. you are *not* having a problem with the password.. so first thing is *stop* trying to address a password issue
[19:44] <Kamp> holstein so is it the hardware issue?
[19:44] <holstein> Kamp: i didnt say that..
[19:45] <holstein> Kamp: let me say what i said earlier again..
[19:45] <gru_> ok, changed the firewall rules locally and can now get in
[19:45] <holstein> Kamp: so, you likely had a simple session error.. but, im not sure what all you have done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for you..
[19:45] <OerHeks> Aaraigathor, Java (IcedTea) doesn't have a PPAPI plugin available, and so it's not usable in Chrome, since it has switched to the Aura rendering framework and no longer allows NPAPI plugins.
[19:46] <Aaraigathor> Anyone know how to get java to work with chrome?
[19:46] <holstein> Kamp: im not sure what all you have broken trying to fix an issue that was not the problem
[19:46] <Kamp> holstein thanks for diagnostics.
[19:46] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i literally go in and enable it, on a case by case basis, since java in the browser *is* a security risk
[19:46] <Kamp> holstein what should i do next?
[19:46] <Aaraigathor> Oh okay, so are there any options for someone wanting to run java in Chrome or are we SoL?
[19:46] <BaconHiddles> ._. Hi
[19:47] <holstein> Aaraigathor: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser_ubuntu.xml
[19:47] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i run it, friend.. when i need.. i turn it on, and run it..
[19:47] <Aaraigathor> holstein: That doesn't work anymore, tried
[19:48] <Kamp> holstein should i somehow try to repair it via live cd?
[19:49] <Aaraigathor> holstein : Can't even get icedtea to load in Chrome
[19:49] <holstein> Kamp: i wouldnt think so.. i would try and determine what is broken..
[19:49] <holstein> Aaraigathor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1308783
[19:50] <holstein> Kamp: i would test after removing any session files and any desktop ui related config files from my home.. but, i dont know what you have done to break the guest account.. you could have broken the system in a larger way
[19:51] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i would follow whatever versioning is listed at that bug.. this could be broken and i wouldnt personally know.. i use it very seldom
[19:52] <Kamp> holstein so there is no way to somehow repair it the "easy" way, like from cd/usb?
[19:55] <Kamp> ...
[19:55] <histo> Kamp: What is the issue?
[19:56] <Kamp> histo  i had a simple session error.. but not sure what  have i  done, since now the guest sesssion is failing to load for me.
[19:57] <Kamp> histo " i would test after removing any session files and any desktop ui related config files from my home.. but, i dont know what you have done to break the guest account.. you could have broken the system in a larger way"
[19:57] <holstein> Kamp: "easy" will be a matter of opinion, and what you have broken
[19:57] <histo> Kamp: why are you using the guest session?
[19:58] <holstein> Kamp: just try removing the .hidden config files for your desktop session and see if you can login
[19:58] <holstein> Kamp: are you using unity? or xfce?
[19:58] <Aaraigathor> holstein : This link cannot be used because its target “/usr/local/java/jre1.7.0_55/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so” doesn't exist.
[19:59] <Kamp> histo as i am unable to login to my user account (with the password I managed to change from within boot/recovery mode, according to tty)
[19:59] <holstein> Aaraigathor: i would follow whatever is in that link.. that bug report.. seems quite up to date, and refers to specific versions of chrome you can step back to
[19:59] <Kamp> holstein removing the .hidden config files from within the tty?
[19:59] <holstein> Kamp: no. you *are* and *were* able to login..
[20:00] <holstein> Kamp: you can use a tty, or a live CD.. make another user... whatevrer you find easiest
[20:00] <histo> Kamp: What happens when you try and login to your user account?
[20:00] <PierrePaul> trism: you're on ubuntu 14.04 right?
[20:00] <holstein> crash back to login screen..
[20:01] <Aaraigathor> holstein : looks like the only way is to go back to old versions of chrome, what a shame
[20:01] <Kamp> black screen for a second with something written and drops me back to the login
[20:01] <holstein> Aaraigathor: let the creators of chrome and java know you think its a shame..
[20:01] <Aaraigathor> how do I delete a folder in terminal? trying rm but keeps telling me that it's a directory?
[20:01] <Kamp> was able to read it when i was able to go to guest account and tried to switch the user
[20:02] <holstein> Aaraigathor: its pretty common to need to follow requirements
[20:02] <histo> Aaraigathor: rm -rf directoryname
[20:02] <Aaraigathor> Thanks everyone
[20:02] <histo> Kamp: So no login to X works?
[20:03] <Kamp> than after typing the password, there was the errorah00558: apache2: could not reliably determine the servers fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:04] <Kamp> set the sertvername directive globally to surpass this message. starting adaptive redhead demon preload
[20:04] <trism> PierrePaul: I am
[20:04] <Aaraigathor> Looks like I need to find which version of chrome was the latest to support java then install it
[20:05] <Kamp> histo from tty when prompted username and password, the next line says(myusername)@(computername)
[20:05] <Kamp> ...with the password i set from whithin boot/recovery mode
[20:05] <PierrePaul> trism: can you paste me your upstart test conf ? :)
[20:06] <Symphonym> PlayOnLinux doesn't show a "System" wine version in 64bit virtual drives. If I install a 64bit Wine version using POL then only that version will be selected for all 64bit drives (if no other 64bit POL wine versions are installed). 32bit virtual drives shows the "System" wine version. The issue occurred after some experimenting and back and forth testing between wine 1.6 and 1.7 (repeatedly in/uninstalling wine packages). 64bi
[20:06] <Symphonym> t virtual drives will however use the "System" wine version if no other version is installed, any ideas what might be the problem?
[20:08] <PierrePaul> trism: I think I got it, I was trying to do : su root -c SUPERVAR=$FROMETCENVIRONMENT /bin/superBin
[20:08] <PierrePaul> and I was expecting SUPERVAR to be set, it's not, but in superBin, $FROMETCENVIRONMENT *is* set
[20:08] <PierrePaul> so I will just use this one
[20:08] <PierrePaul> thanks again trism
[20:09] <rio_zenta> Hello. Is there anybody that works at canonical on this channel?
[20:09] <JamesMc_> Question for anyone who read this. Is there anyway to trick Ubuntu into install Windows printer drivers? I have a old Lexmark x9575 multifunction usb printer. I really would like to be able to print from my Ubuntu laptop with the hassle of load VirtualBox - the XP and then the drivers!!
[20:09] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: that doesn't seem like a support question
[20:09] <JamesMc_> Lexmark does not support Linux - already check the website.
[20:09] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: but I'd guess yes some
[20:10] <trism> PierrePaul: ahh okay, sorry I would have pasted them faster but I have to recreate them
[20:10] <JamesMc_> Even some generic drivers for Lexmark would be better than nothing.
[20:10] <rio_zenta> JamesMc_: The issue is that linux doesn't run .dll files. Perhaps trying through Wine might work.
[20:10] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: Do you work at Canonical?
[20:11] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: No. do you have a support question?
[20:11] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: No
[20:11] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: what are you looking for then?
[20:11] <JamesMc_> Rio_zenta - I wish it was as easy as loading it in wine.
[20:12] <Aaraigathor> They should just make java PPAPI instead of NPAPI. Zzz alright I'm done complaining. Thank you everyone for all the help! Off to cousin's graduation
[20:12] <rio_zenta> tgm4883: I am trying to get in touch with HR at Canonical, but there aren't any contact links on their site.
[20:13] <rio_zenta> JamesMc_: Have you tried plugging the printer in and seeing if ubuntu detects it? Perhaps older peripherals are more supported than newer ones.
[20:14] <tgm4883> rio_zenta: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:14] <JamesMc_> No dice on auto-detect. I tried using CUPS and failed.
[20:15] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: is it to partner with them? I found this link, don't know if it helps.. http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/contact-us
[20:15] <JamesMc_> The OpenPrinting website could not help either.
[20:15] <OerHeks> JamesMc_, that lexmark does not show up in openprinting, so it is a paperweight.
[20:15] <rio_zenta> Aaraigathor: I saw that link too, but no it isn't for partnering. thanks for checking though +1
[20:15] <Kamp> holstein how from within the tty determine which version and is it 32 or 64 bit version of ubuntu to determine?
[20:16] <Kamp> ...how to
[20:16] <bgardner> rio_zenta: Are you wanting a job with them?  Their job search page works fine.
[20:16] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: Main switchboard number: +44 20 7630 2400
[20:17] <Aaraigathor> rio_zenta: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us
[20:17] <JamesMc_> I wonder how hard is it to reverse-engineer printer driver?
[20:17] <guntbert> Aaraigathor: let it go - he succeeded already it seems
[20:18] <rio_zenta> Aaraigathor: Thanks for the suggestions.
[20:18] <Aaraigathor> Anytime
[20:20] <subz3r0> PARTY!
[20:25] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:25] <Kamp> can one access browser bookmarks from within the terminal?
[20:27] <maxime___> hello
[20:27] <maxime___> I just wanted to congratulate you for your system !
[20:27] <maxime___> burn the iso on the usb key, and it worked straight away, with wifi and so on
[20:27] <maxime___> well done
[20:28] <guntbert> maxime___: it's the system we use - do you have a support questionß
[20:28] <guntbert> ?
[20:28] <maxime___> no, not really
[20:28] <Sparro> Okay I have two totally unrelated issues - the first one is about network settings, the second about the GUI
[20:29] <Sparro> Network issue is probably going to be simple.
[20:29] <Sparro> I'm trying to set up OpenVPN so people outside my network can access the fileserver on the same network.  But when I look at my etc/network/interfaces it's almost completely empty - only loopback.
[20:30] <guntbert> Sparro: ask the one after the other
[20:30] <Sparro> But it's getting my static IP setting from -somewhere-.
[20:30] <maxime___> what can I do on the live usb to check if I have some 3D working please ?
[20:31] <Sparro> Are there any clues where the configuration is set if it's not in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:32] <guntbert> Sparro: /etc/Networkmanager/...
[20:32] <Sparro> Ah, that might be it.  One moment...
[20:33] <Sparro> Oh ho, there it is.
[20:36] <gru_> i am trying to sudo scp files directly into www but keep getting 'permission denied' , what can i do to fix this?
[20:36] <gru_> wtf
[20:36] <gru_> i am trying to sudo scp files directly into www but keep getting 'permission denied' , what can i do to fix this?
[20:37] <gru_> mass join?
[20:37] <jpds> sudo scp?
[20:37] <jpds> That'd do things as root on your LOCAL machine.
[20:37] <gru_> cscp is secure copy
[20:37] <jpds> Not on the other end.
[20:37] <gru_> ok
[20:37] <gru_> thnx
[20:38] <gru_> so i should just scp them to a non root dir then mv them?
[20:38] <netameta> what does ./configure --prefix=/usr do ?
[20:38] <jpds> gru_: Yep.
[20:38] <gru_> kool
[20:38] <jpds> !compiling | netameta
[20:39] <genii> Alternately, set up keybased authentication for www-data
[20:39] <Korny123> I'm having issues with my system time basically going double speed on a fresh install of ubuntu(mythbuntu).  WOuld a bad CMOS battery contribute to this (not sure if the battery is even bad).  I set the time of both the hardware clock and system clock, but the system clock continues to run at double time, anyone have any ideas?
[20:41] <genii> You probably have some cpu race condition. Maybe set the time from ntp instead
[20:42] <Korny123> genial I did.... I set it 15 minutes ago
[20:42] <Korny123> its not 15 minutes fast...
[20:42] <Korny123> errr *now
[20:42] <JamesMc_> I have a different question for Support. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with Gnome "Flashback" desktop. I heard that the LDXE desktop uses less resources. Could there be problems if I install and load the Lubuntu desktop and the delete the old desktop?
[20:43] <lnb> how does one get either 14.04 or 13.10 working on an asus notebook with geforce m425
[20:43] <lnb> nouveau just keeps kicking me off
[20:43] <lnb> this is worse than windows 3.1
[20:44] <Istalantar> find ./ -name 'FILENAME' -exec qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt {} new'{}\; anyone knows why this doesn't work?
[20:44] <OerHeks> !nvidia
[20:46] <Sparro> Alright, my second question...  When I use RDP to connect to the server I get no taskbar and no way to run anything.  Can that be fixed?
[20:46] <trism> Istalantar: unterminated ' at the end, and you need a space between the last argument and \;
[20:47] <lnb> spend hours installing reinstalling rsync /home/ back and forth. Only to find both 13.10 and 14.04 will not function properly
[20:47] <lnb> unbuntu
[20:50] <Istalantar> trism: the first {} is input file and new'{} was supposed to be the name of the output file ... don't really know how else to rename the output file
[20:51] <trism> Istalantar: I didn't say anything about the {}, new'{} has an unterminated '
[20:52] <captain_hook> Hey all. I installed ubuntu on a vaio duo 11 and I am having some performance issues. Slow animations when window collapses, vidoes that lag. The computer has 8gb of ram and is 64bit.
[20:52] <captain_hook> Is there anything i can do to improve performance? It ran windows 8.1 just fine.
[20:52] <trism> Istalantar: if you want an ' in the name, then: new\'{}
[20:53] <freshmint>  hey i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, my main desktop environment was ubuntu though i installed xubuntu for trial parallel. Now after updating from 12.04 to 14.04 only the xubuntu desktop environment is available. How can i manually reinstall the unity ubuntu desktop so that I may choose both on log in?
[20:53] <Istalantar> trism: but {} replaces the name of the file, i thought i could add the part new with '
[20:54] <bekks> freshmint: Are you using mint, currently?
[20:54] <captain_hook> I just think that it's weird that my computer could run windows 8.1 fine and then have ubuntu lag
[20:54] <trism> Istalantar: I don't understand what you are asking, if find finds /path/to/file then new\'{} will be expanded to: new'/path/to/file
[20:54] <freshmint> bekks nope ubuntu, well ubuntu however with xubuntu
[20:55] <trism> Istalantar: but if you just use ', bash tries to parse a string of the form 'sometexthere', but never finds the second ', so waits for input with >
[20:57] <Istalantar> trism: i am trying to remove a password from some pdf files with qpdf --password=PASSWORD --decrypt INFILE OUTFILE ... i thought in combination with find i could change several pdf files at once
[20:57] <js1123__> hello; does anyone know why i can't log on to /server irc.snoonet.org ? (I was able to connect and chat on it a couple of minutes ago....)
[20:57] <MrJohnnZ> did someone earlier on want to get in contact with canonical?
[20:57] <bekks> MrJohnnZ: Why?
[20:58] <MrJohnnZ> there's an contact us section on ubuntus site
[20:59] <bekks> MrJohnnZ: And?
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> I was just curious
[20:59] <Pici> MrJohnnZ: We got them in contact with a Canonical employee who we think was able to help them.
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> that's all
[20:59] <MrJohnnZ> ok
[20:59] <Pici> MrJohnnZ: thanks though
[21:01] <trism> Istalantar: yes it can, maybe you should be more specific about what is working, I thought the problem was just with your find command because as you typed it, it won't execute correctly
[21:01] <trism> Istalantar: not working that is
[21:07] <natas_> can anyone help me fix these broken packages so i can update to 14.04? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7660409/
[21:10] <lnb> i can't believe how bad this unbuntu is 13.10/14.04  it really SUCKS bad
[21:10] <MrJohnnZ> you can always use an older version
[21:10] <willwh> lnb: if you don't like it, change it
[21:10] <lnb> i am
[21:10] <conall> Could someone tell me what the f*ck LITP (pronounced lit-pee) is? Thanks. PS Ive googled the sh1t out of it bit havent gotten anything
[21:10] <willwh> lnb: you don't like unity? install a different wm
[21:11] <MrJohnnZ> its also open soruce so... feel free to modify the code
[21:11] <lnb> i dont like installing/reinstalling only to get get kicked off, or add another user account login, locks up
[21:11] <MrJohnnZ> report the bugs
[21:11] <natas_> that sounds quite odd
[21:11] <lnb> use gnome
[21:12] <natas_> conall, can you elaborate even slightly?
[21:12] <lnb> 14.04 just locks with black screen eith a bunch of messages about nouveau stuff
[21:12] <natas_> lnb, sounds like the typical videocard issues
[21:13] <conall> hi natas_  Im not sure if its spelled right. Its an application that allows for easy package management or something like that
[21:13] <lnb> tried using propriatary drivers too and that made it worse
[21:13] <lnb> geforce m425
[21:13] <natas_> litp? i am asking more or less, how do you know you need it, can you show me some error message or something?
[21:13] <natas_> lnb, that's a common issue to all ubuntus
[21:14] <conall> No I dont need it. Its just We use it at work (Im new) and Im trying to find out more about it
[21:14] <lnb> then reinstalled after using FreeBSD to get rid of all partitions first, to 13.10.. login, create a second user, login, asks if 14.04 upgrade is OK, decline, can't do a thing. just sits there
[21:14] <roberta_> hello guys, what should I do so Ubuntu doesn't ask me for user authentication on startup? I'm going to be the only user in this computer, so I'd like it to login on my  user without asking me for my password.
[21:14] <lnb> i will put back 12.04 for now
[21:14] <GuppyMan> Hello, I'm trying to reinstall 14.04 LTS from a Unetbootin USB stick, as I was messing around with tuner card drivers and wanted a fresh install with just the drivers that work.  But, every time I run Try Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu, Install Ubuntu as OEM, or just try booting to my install, shortly after logging in it reboots.  This created an endless boot loop.
[21:15] <natas_> lnb, are you new to ubuntu? do you mean apt-get?
[21:15] <natas_> you said package manager, but what kind for what?
[21:15] <lnb> yea, about 5 or so years
[21:15] <lnb> with ubuntu, FreeBSD for many years before that
[21:16] <conall> natas_ : All I know is that we were trying to install an rmp, and instead of using the rpm command someone used litp, however it needed a plugin so it didnt work in the end
[21:16] <lnb> i looked at many web sites regarding the video issues and could not get this 14.04 work stable
[21:17] <natas_> conall, an rpm on ubuntu? you don't mean a .deb and apt-get?
[21:17] <lnb> this time with 12.04 i hope i dont have to overwrite /home
[21:18] <conall> oh no, sorry. this was on a linux machine
[21:18] <lnb> so tired of rsync back and forth and reinstalling
[21:18] <IKOGJ> waddup
[21:18] <mhoney> nuttin
[21:18] <IKOGJ> anybody know how to install wine on Kali Linux
[21:18] <bekks> IKOGJ: Ask the kali support.
[21:18] <IKOGJ> They slow...
[21:18] <mhoney> apt-get install wine?
[21:18] <natas_> lnb, on aredhat server?
[21:19] <IKOGJ> so i was walking by the block... and a hawk swoops on me, and tries to steal my ear..
[21:19] <bekks> !kali | IKOGJ
[21:19] <mhoney> pacman -S wine
[21:19] <IKOGJ> ^
[21:19] <IKOGJ> ill try
[21:19] <natas_> IKOGJ, https://2c2bn.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/how-to-install-wine-on-kali-linux/
[21:19] <natas_> might help
[21:19] <lnb> natas_: ?
[21:19] <IKOGJ> apt-get install wine only leaves me with "not familiar blah blah not a candidate"
[21:19] <IKOGJ> so i was walking by the block... and a hawk swoops on me, and tries to steal my ear..
[21:20] <IKOGJ> hey Xchat is pretty cool
[21:20] <natas_> IKOGJ, try with :i386?
[21:20] <GuppyMan> How would I go about setting nomodeset with a unetbootin 14.04 LTS stick?
[21:20] <IKOGJ> hey natas. dont worry about it
[21:20] <IKOGJ> i tried all options
[21:20] <ObrienDave> IKOGJ, Hexchat is even cooler ;)
[21:20] <GuppyMan> It starts with a grub menu.
[21:20] <IKOGJ> but i always recieve the message "not a candidate"
[21:20] <IKOGJ> receive*
[21:20] <natas_> sorry to hear, i guess back to google
[21:20] <bekks> IKOGJ: We cant help you, since kali is unsupported in here.
[21:20] <IKOGJ> WAIT
[21:20] <IKOGJ> moffucckas
[21:21] <IKOGJ> who gonna light the blunt with me
[21:21] <bekks> !language | IKOGJ
[21:21] <IKOGJ> my bad
[21:21] <IKOGJ> ...
[21:21] <natas_> lol
[21:21] <mxvxrts> GuppyMan, If you have a grub menu you would hit E and insert nomodeset,
[21:21] <IKOGJ> Anyways, I'm on musescore
[21:21] <IKOGJ> a hawk attacked me
[21:22] <IKOGJ> I need wine for kali linux / fl studio
[21:22] <IKOGJ> i am a penetration tester
[21:22] <IKOGJ> all the girls ask me to check their firewalls
[21:22] <OerHeks> IKOGJ, we don't care. ask in the other channel.
[21:22] <natas_> IKOGJ, doesn't sound like you need kali
[21:22] <roberta_> hello guys, what should I do so Ubuntu doesn't ask me for user authentication on startup? I'm going to be the only user in this computer, so I'd like it to login on my  user without asking me for my password.
[21:23] <SierraAR> I'm having an issue booting into ubuntu off of the 14.04 64-bit ISO. I see the purple screen that lets me choose to boot into ubuntu, but after that, it sits for a while before bringing up a screen that says 'Gave up waiting for root device'
[21:23] <module000> sounds like he needs to 1) find a fire 2) die in it.  just my opinion
[21:23] <mxvxrts> roberta_, the users app has a autoligin
[21:23] <natas_> roberta_, in this day and age, i'd rather live with the fact i must login than have no login, imo
[21:23] <mxvxrts> auto login*
[21:23] <IKOGJ> Roberta_ you're gonna have to either reinstall with your partition not encrypted
[21:23] <OerHeks> SierraAR, system setting > user accounts, there you can set in autologin
[21:23] <IKOGJ> or go to settings and ect
[21:23] <SierraAR> OerHeks: I think you meant to highlight Robert_Zenz ;P
[21:23] <SierraAR> OerHeks: Errr, roberta_
[21:23] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: Do I put it before or after the other text? Or after boot casper?
[21:24] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: On the first line.
[21:24] <OerHeks>  SierraAR err sorry
[21:24] <mxvxrts> GuppyMan, I have never seen an actual grub menu on a iso loaded usb, so not sure what you see.
[21:24] <natas_> can anyone help me fix these broken packages so i can update to 14.04? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7660409/
[21:24] <GuppyMan> mxvxrts: I'll see if I can find a pic or something.
[21:25] <mxvxrts> natas_, Heh not in ythis day and age sorry. ;)
[21:25] <IKOGJ> You probably installed a partition with an encrypted boot system
[21:25] <IKOGJ> If not, then basically, you have to go to settings.
[21:26] <mxvxrts> natas_, However looks like ppa stuff xswat drivers?
[21:27] <IKOGJ> HELLO, where may I find a channels list of all servers.
[21:27] <module000> IKOGJ: for freenode? use the alis service
[21:27] <mxvxrts> natas_, As a guess is this all ppa related that is a lot of errors?
[21:30] <SierraAR> Any ideas why this is coming up when booting a virtual machine off an ubuntu iso? Never had this issue before: http://i.imgur.com/flAuv22.png
[21:31] <natas_> mxvxrts, i don't think i've used x-swat for a while, but there does seem to be driver issues and then some
[21:35] <natas_> SierraAR, it appears to be a grub problem with lvm, no?
[21:35] <FourFire> Hello, is there something wrong with Firefox 30?
[21:35] <okatoma> can someone help me on using xchat to get on freenode? I have been through the registration process a few times and have not gotten an email. I've tried differant ports etc. Surely I am missing something.
[21:35] <natas_> FourFire, what do you mean, elaborate?
[21:35] <SierraAR> natas_: Not sure.. Ubuntu isnt even installed; I get this when booting off a disk
[21:36] <FourFire> It's utilizing 100% of one of my cores and is very slow, this is odd because I'm not doing anything particularly intensive: browsing about 15 tabs on reddit
[21:36] <natas_> SierraAR, usb?
[21:36] <poedd> hi
[21:36] <FourFire> this has never been an issue before
[21:36] <mxvxrts> natas_, Look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and see what is there as far as ppa's
[21:36] <natas_> FourFire, addons?
[21:36] <SierraAR> natas_: ISO file, running through a virtual drive connected to the virtual machine
[21:36] <FourFire> it's as if there's a memory leak, but with CPU cycles
[21:36] <FourFire> addons unchanged since version 28
[21:36] <natas_> FourFire, what addons though
[21:36] <SierraAR> First time I've ever had an issue with this
[21:37] <FourFire> I have noscript, adblockedge a youtube downloader,
[21:37] <natas_> SierraAR, sounds very strange, i'd check your grub and lvm
[21:37] <natas_> er
[21:37] <natas_> you said iso...
[21:37] <SierraAR> natas_: I'd have no idea how I'd do that when booting off a disk/iso
[21:37] <lnb> ubuntu-gnome-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso was the last failure
[21:37] <daftykins> FourFire: try a clean profile.
[21:37] <lnb> installing 12.04 on that notebook now
[21:37] <lnb> at least it will work
[21:37] <mxvxrts> natas_, These will also show in the software source gui
[21:37] <FourFire> Ghostery, Righttoclick, MAFF and Multitabhandler
[21:37] <natas_> SierraAR, what iso is it?
[21:38] <SierraAR> natas_: ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso, acquired through the torrents listed on ubuntu's alternative downloads section
[21:38] <natas_> mxvxrts, so just delete these non-official files in here?
[21:39] <natas_> SierraAR, virtualbox?
[21:39] <SierraAR> natas_: VMWare Workstation 10
[21:39] <natas_> oh, i can't run that to duplicate :[
[21:39] <natas_> you tried the 32bit iso?
[21:39] <SierraAR> :<
[21:40] <mxvxrts> natas_ No, youwill have to if the ppa's are the issue run a purge to reset all they have provided to the ubuntu repos packages, as of right now only you can confirm this.
[21:40] <mxvxrts> !ppa-purge | natas_
[21:40] <SierraAR> natas_: Hm.. Nope, but the VM should be configured for 64 bit ubuntu
[21:40] <suse> Hey, I'm getting "No operating system found." However, if I put in a live CD and choose "boot hard drive" the OS boots perfectly fine. What are youre thoughts? (Disclosure: I'm running openSUSE, but haven't gotten a reply elsewhere) Also, my laptop is L502x. Help would be great :)
[21:41] <SierraAR> natas_: Looking like the 32-bit iso is just giving me a blank screen with no error messages
[21:41] <natas_> sounds very very odd
[21:41] <SierraAR> natas_: Oh, wait, there it is. Exact same issue as the 64-bit one
[21:41] <Sparro> Okay, lightdm doesn't seem to work remotely
[21:42] <Sparro> Live and learn, I guess
[21:42] <natas_> SierraAR, wish i had a windows box to duplicate with, sorry
[21:42] <Bashing-om> suse: Seems like you should try and (re-)install the bootloader to the hard disks.
[21:43] <mxvxrts> suse, Look at gparted from a live cd, you may have a broken partition table. Has this set up ever been a uefi/gpt computer?
[21:44] <natas_> mxvxrts, is there a way to list them as the ppas, so i can tell what the repository-name/subdirectory is?
[21:44] <natas_> SierraAR, do you have another vm to test in?
[21:44] <okatoma> It is most likely that at boot up grub or lilo...whatever you are using is not being found
[21:45] <SierraAR> natas_: Not on this machine; I just recently reinstalled windows after a hardware update (New CPU and motherboard) and forgot to backup my virtual machines
[21:45] <mxvxrts> natas_, Software sources list all repos, so does sources.list which is the standard ubuntu repos, and sources.list.d which woud be 3rd parties like ppa's if you used the standard installation of ppa's and did not just add them to the soureces.list
[21:46] <natas_> mxvxrts, i am just saying i can't tell how to format those to purge some sources.list.d
[21:47] <natas_> nevermind, i have an idea
[21:47] <mxvxrts> natas_ Basically you will have to dig through your error list and ppa's shown to remove and or go to the ppa's webpage and look at packages you have from them.
[21:47] <natas_> yea
[21:47] <suse> mxvxrts, http://pastebin.com/TeuSpYJm
[21:48] <mxvxrts> natas_ The ppa-purge bot link has all the info on how to purge.
[21:48] <suse> I think it's set up correctly?
[21:51] <mxvxrts> suse, Okay I see gpt and legacy boot, was this a W8 computer or a custom made computer with a UEFI bios?
[21:51] <mxvxrts> is this *
[21:53] <mxvxrts> suse, Are you familiar with UEFI or gpt partitions? If you do not understand anything we ask here always say so. ;)
[21:56] <suse> mxvxrts, I fon't fully understand EUFI, but it was a win7 when I bought it
[21:56] <JamesMc_> Question. Are there any major problems switching desktop environments in Ubuntu?
[21:57] <mxvxrts> natas_, Technically we do not support PPA's here and using them is at your own risk, and at this point we are assuming the PPA's which you have not confirmed you have have "may" be part of the issue. We have confirmed nothing here as a cause and effect.
[21:57] <ogohzi> hello everyone, I'd like to ask if you'd recommend any of the virtual machines more than the others.
[21:58] <natas_> mxvxrts, yea i basically get that, i am just trying to remove them all
[21:58] <e^> ogohzi: virtualbox is ok
[21:58] <mxvxrts> suse, You have a gpt partition table that can be removed though and probably fix this, do you have suse backed up?
[21:59] <suse> mxvxrts, yes
[22:00] <mxvxrts> suse, cool try this to remove the gpt table, http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[22:00] <mxvxrts> suse, I'm assuming you do not want gpt.
[22:00] <ogohzi> e^ , thank you :)
[22:01] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: suse :: consider GPT partitioning requires a EFI /boot partiton .. non existent at this time.
[22:01] <mxvxrts> natas_, Cool, hope you get it resolved. ;)
[22:01] <natas_> thanks :]
[22:02] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, Has a gpt table probably remnants and rfeguar partitons, this is not uncommon when they disc is not wiped correctly for msdos
[22:02] <mxvxrts> regular
[22:03] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: Thanks, noted for future reference.
[22:04] <SymfonyMexico> #ubuntu
[22:04] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, It is weird stuff, heh. ;(
[22:04] <mxvxrts> ;)
[22:04] <natas_> ok purge ppas, here we go again
[22:04] <natas_> purged*
[22:05] <fiaodilz> what is the most funny freenode channel? :o
[22:05] <SymfonyMexico> segun yo estoy en #ubuntu
[22:05] <natas_> fiaodilz, funny? #defocus?
[22:05] <SymfonyMexico> xD
[22:05] <mxvxrts> !es | SymfonyMexico
[22:06] <WilsonMathew> I got this problem when I try to install something, http://codepad.org/OOZ3EOPP or remove something. I know it has to do with the file /var/lib/dpkg/status because I did: mv /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status. I was trying to install awesomewm. Any hints on how to fix this? thanks
[22:06] <Bashing-om> mxvxrts: Yeah .. with the advent of UeFI, secure boo,t SSRT .. GPT partitioning .>>>.. OH for the days af a 57 chevy !
[22:06] <fiaodilz> well... let's test x)
[22:08] <suse> mxvxrts, thanks, I'll give a swing and I might be back later
[22:08] <mxvxrts> Bashing-om, Yeah, I used to ride street 2 strokes motorcycles used to be the fastest lightest machines, gp racing and all, those were the daze. ;)
[22:10] <suse> mxvxrts, do you think my MBR set up as http://pastebin.com/E5eV6rLq should boot if I blow away the GPT
[22:11] <mxvxrts> suse, Should that is the point with rods info, the gpt remnants just get removed.
[22:12] <Elrafie> plz where is the ubuntu touch channel ?
[22:13] <mxvxrts> suse, I did ask if you were backed up though, you want to always be prepared for any contingency is all.
[22:13] <mxvxrts> Elrafie, #ubuntu-touch
[22:15] <suse> mxvxrts, yeah, I'm backed up. I havent successfully gotten a reload on this laptop yet... I tried installing arch and it wouldn't even let me get a ping to <IP_ADDRESS>. I'm just going to run with it and see hows it goes :)
[22:26] <roberta_> hello everyone, My webcam (C3 Tech OMS 19) works its video on Cheese, but it is not receiving any audio. Also its video is not working on Skype. Could anyone assist me in this problem? Thanks!
[22:32] <mxvxrts> roberta_, Are you using the skype from the ubuntu repos rather than their website?
[22:33] <roberta_> mxvxrts, yes
[22:34] <mxvxrts> roberta_, Ah that is all I would know, the skyoe wiki says to use the repos, and I have seen issue that were just based on using skypes downloaded version.
[22:34] <natas_> mxvxrts, i fixed it finally by purging the packages with dpkg
[22:35] <mxvxrts> natas_, Excellent, so you are good for an upgrade?
[22:35] <natas_> yup, it's fetching finally
[22:35] <roberta_> mxvxrts, is there any place where I should be able to find a drive for it? Because this webcam has a mic on it, and it is all through USB... not sure what to do if Ubuntu recognize its model and all.
[22:35] <mxvxrts> natas_, Woohoo. ;)
[22:36] <natas_> thanks for the help, much appreciated
[22:37] <mxvxrts> roberta_, I would run that webcam info at askubuntu in the search, and your release as well, and just a web search.
[22:38] <mxvxrts> roberta_, I would check the manufacturer for any linux stuff too.
[22:38] <roberta_> mxvxrts, I might do that, thanks!
[22:38] <mxvxrts> np
[22:38] <puff> Good afternoon.  I have a t520 thinkpad running ubuntu 13.10.  I have a minidock with an external monitor.  If I boot up my laptop while docked, the monitor works fine.  If I boot up without the dock, then dock it, the external monitor gets no video signal. Any idea how I turn on the external video signal?
[22:39] <skinux> I need some help solving problem of my TouchPad pointer being shaky, it's been this way since installation. I used gpointer-device-settings to increase pointer speed just a bit and shaky-ness became worse. It seems to switch between being precise and being shaky as it sees fit.
[22:40] <Sparro> puff: You could try restarting the display manager and see if that works.  sudo service lightdm restart
[22:40] <Sparro> It'll probably kill all your windows though, so be aware of that.
[22:42] <DadFoundMy> hey im about to install Xubuntu. Last time i tried 14.04 nm-applet didnt work correctly. is tht issue still going on?
[22:44] <mxvxrts> DadFoundMy, Not a known issue unless you find a bug.
[22:50] <17SAAEGIO> j
[22:50] <ce> hola
[22:50] <ce> alguien tiene servers ubuntu ahi
[22:51] <ce> hello did someone has ubuntu servers over there
[22:52] <jrib> ce: do you have a support question related to ubuntu?
[22:56] <ce> questions yes, i got a server running ubuntu 12 and i need to know if i upgrade to 14 what are the related issues htat i have to solve
[22:58] <comster404>  I'm trying to replace a failed drive in my mdadm array, but having trouble adding an entire disk (like I created the array) instead of a partition with the raid flag.  Any suggestions?
[23:03] <Sparro> comster404: From what I can see, you might need to use 'build' to set it back up.
[23:04] <comster404> Sparro, basically rebuild?
[23:04] <Sparro> comster404: Sorta.  This is a RAID setup where you don't have a per-device superblock?
[23:04] <comster404> raid 10
[23:05] <FmRUF> does any one know what version of libreoffice will be in 14.04.1
[23:05] <Ben64> FmRUF: very likely the same version that is currently in 14.04
[23:06] <Sparro> comster404: hmmmmm Did you use build mode to make it in the first place?
[23:06] <FmRUF> Ben64: Thank you I will look that up, I have not updated to 14.04 yest waiting for 14.04.1
[23:06] <Ben64> !info libreoffice
[23:06] <jackbrown> hello there I'm trying to make it works on linux a thermal printer that is recognized as IEEE-1284 usb controller   lsusb = Bus 003 Device 004: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port printer model GWP-80 thermal printer thanks for reading
[23:07] <comster404> I used create on 4 disks, /dev/sda to /dev/sdd ... but having trouble adding a disk, instead of a partition with raid flag like sdd1 which is 1MB too small from what I can tell
[23:09] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, So what have you done so far besides the lsusb check?
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> Hi. I'm looking to completely and utterly remove all hotkeys related to Unity and its launcher, its shortcuts, and all of its ilk.
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> Like Alt, the Meta key, etc
[23:09] <Sparro> comster404: Okay, not what I was thinking then.
[23:09] <therealfakemoot> I can't find the bindings in the "keyboard" settings dialog
[23:10] <fernando__> spy here
[23:10] <fernando__> tombo gay
[23:10] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: i tried to install generic driver only text and didn't worked
[23:11] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: then I tried othe generic drivers and the just move thepaper inside the printer when I send the print command
[23:11] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, Have you checked the printers gui?
[23:11] <jackbrown> mxvxrts:  printer gui ?
[23:11] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, There is an app called printers for loading drivers if any are there.
[23:12] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: yes is where I installed generic driver in ubuntu
[23:12] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: the wizard
[23:12] <jjavaholic> !dbus
[23:13] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: the strange thing about this printer is that it's recognized as Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 usb -to parallel adapter
[23:13] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, When you say generic I'm not sure what you mean, I have in my experience seen drivers specific to printers.
[23:14] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: since the wizard doesn't find any specific driver for my printer suggests me to install a generic driver and give me a list
[23:15] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: your probably gonna have to hunt down the .ppd file and install it manually
[23:15] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, Ah, never been in that predicament, good to know though. Have you gone to the manufacturer and or relevant site per the lsusb info for linux drivers?
[23:15] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: the question is : " Does exist the ppd file for my printer?   Where can I should hunt it ?"
[23:16] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: yes I wrote to the manufactured, until now no  reply but they just provide windows driver when you buy the printer
[23:16]  * Refresh has any girl here
[23:16] <user123321> Help, Ubuntu latest LTS hanged twice consecutively during boot. Nothing is displayed on screen. Caps lock key is frozen. Should I try recovery mode and repair broken packages? PLeaee help. Thanks.
[23:16] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: here is the manufacturer website www.mwccdz.com
[23:17] <comster404> Sparro, thx, think I fixed it! whew... forced it to assemble first 3 disks, then was able to add the 4th... recovering now!
[23:17] <Sparro> comster404: What happens when you run 'repair' with the ... oh, excellent!
[23:17] <mxvxrts> jackbrown, good, probably as suggested a hunt for a linux driver is your quest, wear rubber boots, who knows where you will end up. ;)
[23:17] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: I guess I missed the model number of the printer...
[23:18] <comster404> Time to add a hot spare into the mix to save me some time next failure :)
[23:18] <Sparro> Hah, no kidding!  That makes it a lot faster, that's for sure.  :]
[23:18] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: GWP 80 portable thermal printer here is the manufacturer website www.mwccdz.com
[23:19] <Refresh> /join #shqiperia
[23:19] <jackbrown> mxvxrts: with the printer I got some .gpd files
[23:19]  * Refresh /join #shqiperia
[23:19] <Refresh> /ame /join #shqiperia
[23:19]  * Refresh d
[23:20] <user123321> hmm, Ubuntu now boots.
[23:20] <Sparro> Anyone know if it's possible to run the NetworkManager config from a window manager besides Unity?
[23:21] <user123321> I went to recovery and did normal boot, and then restarted again. Ubuntu booted successfully.
[23:21] <mxvxrts> Sparro, Not sure I understand that, maybe the actual issue m ight help.
[23:21] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: looks cool... and like it's gonna be a pain to find drivers... :D I think there's a way to translate windows drivers to a .ppd...
[23:22] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: really ? how??????????'
[23:22] <Sparro> mxvxrts: I'm using VNC remotely to get to my server, and I was having trouble with Unity so I installed Fluxbox.
[23:23] <Sparro> But that means I can't access the Network Manager configuration tool as one normally would.
[23:24] <mxvxrts> Sparro, Ah, that is more helpful, not familiar with vnc's or fluxbox, however and of the main canonical de should have nm working out of the box, if I understand your issue.
[23:24] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: ... looking into it...   I might try something besides fluxbox then.  Thanks!
[23:25] <mxvxrts> Sparro, lxde would be my suggestion
[23:26] <Sparro> I'll give it a look!
[23:29] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: I'm having a hard time tracking down Windows drivers...
[23:30] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: are you trying to find windows driver for my printer ?
[23:30] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: any drivers...
[23:30] <qwertyomen> for your printer
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: i think you'll lose a lot of time if you want i can upload them for you
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: I didn't find any download link even if they say there should be on manufacturer wesite
[23:31] <Sudo> does anyone one know how much ram ubuntu requires?
[23:31] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: ha found it! had to translate from chinese...
[23:31] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: where ?
[23:31] <Guest42442> i can't find the specs page for ubuntu
[23:31] <daftykins> Guest42442: for the very latest Ubuntu 14.04 with unity, desktop edition, you'd likely want 2GB+
[23:32] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: the website you provided, it's on the lower left hand corner. I bet it's just MS drivers... fighting super slow chinanet download speeds :D
[23:32] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: lo
[23:33] <jackbrown> lol
[23:34] <qwertyomen> 6.9 KB/s
[23:34] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: for me it's 22KB/s
[23:34] <qwertyomen> Nice!
[23:36] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: luckyly it's a small file
[23:43] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: might be able to get it to work with WINE
[23:43] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: I was thinking about that too but someon told me that CUPS need to recognize it
[23:43] <jackbrown> do you know how to set it with wine ? qwertyomen
[23:44] <seinthebear> question: how do I remove the BCD from a drive? I've been trying to get the Windows 8 bootloader to work w/ ubuntu 14.04 via easyBCD, i gave up and went with grub, but how it shows TWO windows 8 loaders
[23:45] <ObrienDave> seinthebear, easy enough to get rid of with grub-customizer
[23:45] <seinthebear> /dev/sda1 is the "system reserved" (where the bcd should be) and /dev/sda2 is the actual windows part. that shouldnt have a bcd
[23:45] <seinthebear> ah
[23:45] <seinthebear> thank
[23:45] <seinthebear> *thank you
[23:47] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: no clue! lol kinda learning as I go with this, It doesn't look like there's a "simple" way to do any of it...
[23:48] <Refresh> Banditi Po Ktu
[23:48] <jackbrown> qwertyomen: you are at the same point
[23:48] <Banditi> sd\as\
[23:48] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: balls...
[23:48] <Vo1d> how change number port of nfs service ?
[23:48] <Banditi> o Refresh
[23:49]  * Refresh  :P
[23:49] <Refresh> Ome
[23:49] <seinthebear> ObrienDave, I was hoping to actually *remove* the bcd from the partition, not just cover it up
[23:50] <Banditi> ca je tu
[23:50] <Banditi> bo re
[23:50] <Refresh> HIC
[23:50]  * Refresh Good Night PeoPle
[23:50] <witheld> When a boot is interupted for whatever reason, on the next reboot GRUB waits for a human to select an option
[23:50] <witheld> how can I disable this?
[23:52] <ObrienDave> seinthebear, why do you want to get rid of BCD?
[23:52] <seinthebear> Obiwantje, i was messing with easybcd and installed a windows 8 bootloader to the windows 8 partition instead of the system reserved one
[23:53] <seinthebear> erm
[23:53] <seinthebear> ObrienDave, ^
[23:53] <qwertyomen> jackbrown: this seems to be the most in depth on installing printers with WINE http://www.witch.westfalen.de/Wine-HOWTO/wineprintconfig.html
[23:54] <mxvxrts> witheld, never see this can you elaborate?
[23:55] <mxvxrts> seems like an assumption is all
[23:57] <phillyj> hi, I'm trying to install TORCS but I get a make error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/7660998/
[23:57] <phillyj> any ideas what's wrong?
[23:59] <phillyj> hmm, the error didn't show up on pastebin