[08:25] <kamikazesponge> topyli: i just did webmin
[08:25] <kamikazesponge> topyli: but on what port is it..?
[08:25] <topyli> kamikazesponge: that's enough to configure webmin
[08:26] <topyli> it's at 10000
[08:26] <kamikazesponge> ok
[08:26] <topyli> but you need to enable root for a while
[08:26] <Gnonthgol> webmin has its own package system
[08:26] <kamikazesponge> topyli: i have that enabled by default (i know it's not all too safe..)
[08:26] <topyli> ok
[08:26] <AptGet> ssdd65: can you get into the xmms preferences?
[08:26] <cemc> aurax: that, you must see for yourself, i think with breezy you can, i never tried that one
[08:27] <kamikazesponge> topyli: uhm.. i get access denied :S
[08:27] <Gnonthgol> just use # apt-get install webmin-core and use webmin to install your modules
[08:27] <konra`> anyone know how to use synaptic to get mplayer?
[08:27] <sexcopter8000m> hello, does anyone know how i can tell ubuntu what to do when i close my laptop lid? at present it just seems to kinda shutdown gdm :s
[08:27] <topyli> kamikazesponge: do you get to the login page?
[08:27] <AptGet> konra`: did you add multiverse repos?
[08:28] <kamikazesponge> topyli: nope
[08:28] <konra`> AptGet, how?
[08:28] <Gnonthgol> ubotu tell konra`about mplayer
[08:28] <kamikazesponge> i get error - acces denied for <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:28] <ttyS0> tommi^, i want to say about php script. i had same problem but then i've compiled php with --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql << there you should have ready mysql.
[08:28] <ssdd65> yea i can get into them... this only happens when i try to play mp3s...
[08:28] <topyli> kamikazesponge: it's probably not running. /etc/init.d/webmin start
[08:28] <aurax> err ill just give up on raid cemc
[08:28] <Gnonthgol> !mplayer
[08:28] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:28] <aurax> topyli can you send me that openvpn script
[08:28] <ssdd65> i havnt even though about trying wmas yet ;)
[08:28] <kamikazesponge> topyli: think it is, when i went to it with http:// it whined about ssl and that i had to use https
[08:28] <konra`> Gnonthgol, thanks
[08:29] <topyli> kamikazesponge: ah of course
[08:29] <cemc> aurax: no reason to, why don't you try it first? :)
[08:29] <kamikazesponge> topyli: uhh.. i still don't get it :P
[08:29] <topyli> aurax: the init script? i can trow it to the pastebin
[08:29] <cemc> aurax: if you have 4 empty disks, now is the time to experiment a bit ;)
[08:29] <aurax> its init script ? i thought it some kind of configurator sorry
[08:29] <aurax> cemc ehhe, im not @ work atm
[08:30] <topyli> kamikazesponge: perhaps you don't have any modules because you didn't install webmin-core
[08:30] <aurax> i wasted over 2hrs on it and i can't waste any more
[08:30] <aurax> or i'll have a pissed costumer.
[08:30] <kamikazesponge> topyli: think it is because the config only allowed localhost ^^;;
[08:30] <Belutz> oh... that's why.... foolish me
[08:30] <nitin> guys im getting access denied to <IP_ADDRESS> after i installed webmin, where cna i edit the access log
[08:30] <cemc> aurax: wasted? you want raid or not? :) if you can't set it up in 5 minutes, you don't do it at all ?
[08:30] <topyli> kamikazesponge: localhost yes. you're doing this remotely?
[08:31] <metis> does anyone here do remote troubleshooting ? I am looking for a price quote for help on ubuntu linux and specific help with creloaded storefront
[08:31] <aurax> ha ;p
[08:31] <aurax> cemc i tell you what i tried
[08:31] <kamikazesponge> topyli: of course, it's a server, lynx won't do much good with all those tables
[08:31] <aurax> @ installation phase i setted the 4 hd's from ext3 to partition reserverd for raid or sometihng like that
[08:31] <aurax> then i went to the raid configurator
[08:31] <aurax> create MD raid1
[08:31] <topyli> kamikazesponge: hrm. you have to get it to accept your network's clients
[08:32] <aurax> i setted it on ext3/swap
[08:32] <ssdd65> did i download the wrong decoder (for some reason there is two and it still dosnt work when i turn one off...)
[08:32] <kamikazesponge> topyli: already managed to do that, i'm struggling with modules now :P
[08:32] <anacron> do you guys have any tips how to run hl2?, steam gives an error when i try to start the game
[08:32] <aurax> bootable, when i tried to deploy
[08:32] <aurax> it really installed the ext3 @ the end it wrote installation failed
[08:33] <aurax> i got hash' smell under my window
[08:33] <aurax> weird
[08:33] <nitin> guys im getting access denied to <IP_ADDRESS> after i installed webmin, where cna i edit the access log
[08:33] <aurax> ./var/www/webmin .. .?
[08:33] <aurax> var/log
[08:33] <aurax> no ?
[08:33] <aurax> updatedb && locate webmin.log
[08:33] <cemc> aurax: installation failed, and that's it? nothing more ?
[08:33] <aurax> nada man
[08:33] <alie> hi how to customise gnome desktop to my needs
[08:34] <alie> any tutorial link will be great please
[08:34] <Gnonthgol> nitin: try to config /etc/webmin/miniserv.config
[08:34] <cemc> aurax: what ubuntu was that you tried ?
[08:34] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having some trouble with ubuntu, the user i created in the instalation can use usb disks, but i have a lot of users stored in AD, when they login, they can't mount usb disks
[08:34] <hmrocha> what can i do?
[08:35] <ssdd65> any ideas why my xmms locks up when ever i press any buttion while it trys to play an mp3
[08:35] <aurax> 5.04
[08:35] <aurax> shipped.. ;)
[08:35] <antix> ok I managed to rip the stream using mplayer..  http://grimthing.com/archives/2004/05/20/recording-streaming-audio-with-mplayer/
[08:35] <TTilus> usb disk related too...  those used to mount automatically but they don't do that anymora
[08:35] <TTilus> s/anymora/anymore
[08:35] <kamikazesponge> topyli: what module do i need for install scripts?
[08:36] <Gnonthgol> hmrocha: in /etc/fstab find the usb mount and set user an an argument
[08:36] <topyli> kamikazesponge: just webmin-core
[08:36] <kamikazesponge> hmmz ok
[08:36] <kamikazesponge> is webmin ok too?
[08:36] <topyli> no, i think it's just the server
[08:36] <kamikazesponge> ok
[08:36] <hmrocha> Gnonthgol, the usb disks are not in fstab, they are managed by HAL
[08:36] <Gnonthgol> hmrocha: like /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:36] <nitin> Gnonthgol: crap, it blocked me whats the file that contains the blocked hosts?
[08:37] <Gnonthgol> nitin: that is that file normaly
[08:37] <thrush> can you edit usb disk settings in fstab? I've been needing the answer to this myself
[08:38] <nitin> Gnonthgol: whats the default user/password?
[08:38] <topyli> root's
[08:38] <Gnonthgol> ubotu tell nitin about webmin
[08:38] <thrush> god forbin i google anythin =)
[08:39] <jeang>  /umode +CE
[08:39] <cemc> aurax: i can't say... i'll have to try it myself...
[08:39] <Pro_Newbie> Hello, can someone give me a little tip: Im trying to get some new packages via Kynaptic, and it just says "You have broken packages.... " .. How can i find those ones and remove them???
[08:40] <hmrocha> Gnonthgol, i think i have to put the users in the "plugdev" group
[08:40] <aurax> thx
[08:41] <aurax> this time i wont use raid
[08:41] <Gnonthgol> hmrocha: possible
[08:41] <aurax> but next time i installs i wish it could work
[08:41] <hydrant> Ubuntu is having problems recognizing my UMAX SCSI scanner . Does anyone know why it might not be detecting it?
[08:41] <aurax> i was just finishing reading about fakeraid etc.. total waste of time
[08:42] <bytefoo> why is my eth1 (wireless) interface showing up in ifconfig as an ethernet device, even though I can see ipw2200 loaded as a module?
[08:42] <cemc> aurax: i'll try it tonight, and tell you how it went
[08:43] <Scrawny1> 2 questions
[08:43] <CarlFK> bytefoo - um.. what is the problem? (or are you just wondering why it is named what it is?)
[08:43] <Scrawny1> 1 when is Breezy stable relese comming out
[08:43] <bytefoo> well, it's not working
[08:43] <bytefoo> but lsmod shows that the module is loaded
[08:43] <Scrawny1> 2 whould it be a good idea to get the current relese?
[08:43] <Malin> what was the name of a tool that makes a .deb package from a binary?
[08:43] <bytefoo> so i'm wondering if it is somehow being misconfigured as an ethernet interface
[08:43] <aurax> ty celc
[08:44] <NoUse> !breezy
[08:44] <ubotu> breezy is probably the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:44] <CarlFK> Scrawny1 - do you want to use it or help develope it?
[08:44] <cemc> bytefoo: well it is one, no?
[08:44] <bytefoo> :/
[08:44] <cemc> bytefoo: does it have an ip address ?
[08:44] <bytefoo> no
[08:44] <Scrawny1> well I'm thinking about beta testing it
[08:44] <__filip_> i have setup an ftp-server and i can connect to it it work perfect but my frind can not connect to it. i think it because i dont allow there ip, somebody knows how to do that?
[08:44] <cemc> bytefoo: what does it say in /proc/net/wireless ?
[08:45] <bytefoo> umm interface eth1 status 0000 link 0 level 0 noise 0
[08:45] <bytefoo> everything 0
[08:45] <cemc> bytefoo: well then it's not connected to any wireless network i guess
[08:45] <Butcherbird_Jr> thrush you need spell checker
[08:46] <thrush> Butcherbird: who let you out of the closet? I said 2 hours!
[08:46] <Malin> what was the name of a tool that makes a .deb package from a binary?
[08:47] <CarlFK> duh.. who wanted to beta test?
[08:47] <Scrawny1> me
[08:47] <lapo> hi there
[08:47] <Scrawny1> thinking about beta testing and helping to work out any bugs
[08:47] <nessmuk> my Linux-guru buddy says that on a recent install of Ubuntu he was surprised to see konqueror and kmail in the first round of the install. Can someone tell me how/why/when this happens by itself?
[08:47] <chrismy> guys the boot for 2 hard drives and 2 OS not working....any ideas how to bring the boot back to normal mode? (bad english :P)
[08:48] <chrismy> lapo, no can't PM coz i am not registered it says. no wonder you can't get my messages just now
[08:49] <Gnonthgol> chrismy: are you using grub?, what is wrong
[08:49] <chrismy> lapo, how do i register so i could PM here and there :P hehehe
[08:49] <ttyS0> how do i determine what version of xfree86 is installed?
[08:49] <lapo> chrismy: join #lapo (/j #lapo)
[08:49] <Malin> it's checkinstall
[08:49] <Malin> !checkinstall
[08:49] <ubotu> hmm... checkinstall is a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation
[08:49] <topyli> ttyS0: X -version
[08:49] <chrismy> Gnonthgol, ahh yes you got it right but my case is very confusing. i do not know how to tell you. coz just now there has been a chaos coz of my case :(
[08:50] <__filip_> some one know how i can make an IP connect to me?
[08:50] <Arsonide> Hey I'm utterly new to Linux and I'm on Ubuntu now...but how do I shut down X server? The nvidia drivers are griping about it being on.
[08:50] <uuser> does anybody knows how to get workin a labtec webcam?
[08:50] <Gnonthgol> chrismy: have you tryed Lilo?
[08:51] <chrismy> Gnonthgol, no i do not want to be too complicated....any 'high' suggestions? lapo is also helping me
[08:51] <kyncani> Arsonide: you do know that you should install nvidia following the instructions on ubuntu wiki ?
[08:51] <linas_> nessmuk I guess konq was somehow in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <Arsonide> kyncani, no I didn't.
[08:51] <ttyS0> topyli, is that any binary file or sh script?
[08:51] <linas_> but ... I can't find konq on ubuntu myself
[08:52] <topyli> ttyS0: "X" is a command, "-version" is an argument for it :)
[08:52] <kyncani> Arsonide: then go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and look for nvidia :)
[08:52] <cemc> aurax: i'm trying to install one right now, with raid0, on two harddisks
[08:52] <cemc> (actually it's in vmware, but that doesn't really matter, i think)
[08:52] <dalamar> you can also use the method on the nvidia website supposedly too though I used the wiki myself
[08:52] <topyli> ttyS0: just run it in a terminal (i think you need sudo)
[08:53] <Arsonide> I was told to do something like sudo init 3 and it didn't work.
[08:53] <sander> hi.. I got a  D-Link DWL-G520 wireless networking pci card.. how do I get it working in ubuntu?
[08:53] <anachronism> bye bye
[08:53] <ttyS0> topyli, oh thanks. it works :)
[08:53] <lapo> Arsonide: swith to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:53] <tim__> hi
[08:53] <tim__> any germans here?
[08:53] <kyncani> Arsonide: A quick search on wiki.ubuntu.com returned https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:53] <keith> hey i need some help- how do i get java to work in mozilla? which package?
[08:53] <keith> !repositories
[08:53] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:54] <kyncani> Arsonide: next time you want something, go to ubuntu wiki first :)
[08:54] <Kyral> ubotu tell keith about java
[08:54] <keith> thanks kyral
[08:54] <cemc> brb
[08:54] <Kyral> The wiki needs a table of contents :P
[08:54] <__filip_> is it no one that knows about IP blocking/allow?
[08:54] <Arsonide> Did that command do anything devastating kyncani?
[08:54] <sander> I get up "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communication, Inc. Ar5212 802.llabg NIC (rev 01)" in lspci
[08:54] <Arsonide> And what's the difference between "Root Terminal" and "Terminal"?
[08:55] <Kyral> Root Terminal puts you as root
[08:55] <Kyral> terminal puts you as you :P
[08:55] <Pro_Newbie> Why i cant find any mplayer in apt ???
[08:55] <kyncani> Arsonide: no, nothing devastating, reboot, login (without nvidia) and follow wiki instructions
[08:55] <Kyral> !mplayer
[08:55] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:55] <uuser> is there a deb package or somethin like that to install the labtec driver, i've tried to compile spca5xx against the kernel, but no luck
[08:55] <Kyral> ubotu tell Pro_Newbie about mplayer
[08:56] <Arsonide> anyway gotta go eat lunch
[08:56] <Arsonide> bbiab
[08:56] <kamikazesponge> topyli: when i looked in my rc2.d folder i noticed something; the link i made to my rc.local file is red, and when i make a hard link it turns green. all other links are cyan, does that mean something?
[08:56] <kamikazesponge> like wrong type of link
[08:56] <Scrawny1> http://ubuntuguide.org <-----excellent Ubuntu how to website
[08:57] <Pro_Newbie> Scrawny1: lol i know it and there is just said sudo apt-get -t hoary install mplayer-386
[08:57] <topyli> kamikazesponge: erm. init.d has scripts, rc2.d has links
[08:57] <Pro_Newbie> and there is no such package
[08:57] <kyncani> Scrawny1: i think ubuntuguide is now FAQGuide
[08:57] <kamikazesponge> topyli: yes, that's what i said didn't i?
[08:57] <kamikazesponge> topily: i just called my script rc.local, because i'm used to that name
[08:58] <ttyS0> is there anybody who got Kylix3 OpenEdition working on ubuntu?
[08:58] <topyli> umm. yes
[08:58] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a way to make Gaim flash in the panel when i get a message?
[08:58] <topyli> kamikazesponge: nothing wrong with that then :)
[08:58] <Kyral> Pickle_Weasel, I believe there is a HOWTO in the forums
[08:58] <spiderworm> Pickle_Weasel: ooh if you figure that out, plz let me know
[08:58] <Scrawny1> it's an FAQ site yes, I'm a linux idiot and I can drive Ubuntu w/ that website only
[08:58] <kamikazesponge> topyli: just that the color of my link is different from all the others
[08:58] <kamikazesponge> !anyone
[08:58] <ubotu> somebody said anyone was 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:59] <topyli> heh
[08:59] <topyli> kamikazesponge: could be they're hard links after all :\
[08:59] <topyli> dunno
[09:00] <Ng> rc.d links are symbolic, not hard
[09:00] <kamikazesponge> topyli: hard links are green, i tested it
[09:00] <Scrawny1> if I do install to Breezy will it fuck up my current settings?
[09:00] <Ng> if the link went red it was probably broken ;)
[09:00] <Ng> I don't use colour ls though, so I don't know what red/green means
[09:00] <Ng> ls -l is a better way to examine links
[09:00] <kamikazesponge> Ng: but it does point to the right file
[09:00] <kamikazesponge> Ng: i'll try
[09:00] <topyli> kamikazesponge: it's the name improvization you did
[09:00] <topyli> perhaps
[09:01] <topyli> i normally go to the target dir and do "ln -s /path/to/foo ."
[09:01] <jogariga> when will breezy come out?
[09:01] <Kathie> I need help for my Compaq computer now running with Ubuntu to recognize my scanner
[09:01] <Ng> jogariga: October probably
[09:01] <ompaul> !breezy
[09:01] <ubotu> [breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:01] <Kathie> new to this! Am I bugging you
[09:01] <keith> hmph- i added all the repositories like the wiki said, and then searched for the sun package it wanted me to find- it wasnt there.... for some reason i cant find the sun package needed to get java working on firefox
[09:02] <kamikazesponge> topyli Ng, it's now the right color (don't know why though)
[09:02] <Gnonthgol> Pro_Newbie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4c69034d5cc6530951eee44239cdf2c2a76049c1
[09:02] <jogariga> thanks guys
[09:02] <sander> anyone use the ath_pci  module?
[09:03] <AndyR> lo all
[09:03] <theeil> why does it take so long to start gnome on the live cd and to start any app the first time you start it?
[09:03] <Kyral> Because its loading from the CD as opposed to as from a HD
[09:03] <Malin> how do i update a certain package?
[09:03] <theeil> it does not take so long the second time
[09:03] <Kyral> because its in the RAM :P
[09:03] <Gnonthgol> Malin: use synaptic
[09:04] <theeil> Kyral: it is killed though?
[09:04] <ompaul> theeil, think about it, you are doing everything in ram - so it gets to leave some stuff cached in ram until ram is full then it has to release that ram back to the systmer
[09:04] <Kyral> ehh
[09:04] <keith> ack y cant i find the sun package required to run java in firefox? i followed the add repositories and the add java tutorials to a T - the synaptic package manager cant find it.
[09:04] <Malin> i don't like synaptic, i prefer terminal :-)
[09:04] <Kyral> Malin, amen to that
[09:04] <Ng> Malin: then "sudo apt-get install foo" will install the latest version of package "foo"
[09:05] <theeil> keith: you need the extras repository, it should be there
[09:05] <Kyral> Apt + Bash Alias > Synaptic
[09:05] <Malin> and if it's installed?
[09:05] <keith> i added all repositories but the cd hoary theeil
[09:05] <Gnonthgol> Malin: it installs the newest version anyway
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> someone running nvidia card, can paste their /etc/modutils/nvidia-kernel-nkc to the pastbin?
[09:05] <keith> maybe haory extras isnt listed for some reason? how do i add it?
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell keith about repos
[09:05] <Kyral> !backports
[09:05] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:06] <keith> i added them all
[09:06] <Ng> keith: it's at the very bottom of the page
[09:06] <keith> i followed that tutorial to a t
[09:06] <Gnonthgol> Malin: use apt-get upgrade to update all installed
[09:06] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: it's just one line:    alias char-major-195 nvidia
[09:06] <marshalk> Does anyone know how to fix the terminal color issues in Breezy?  I tried searching BTS but I couldn't find anything.
[09:06] <Kyral> or dist-upgrade
[09:06] <Malin> i see the problem now
[09:07] <Malin> i have a Debian package, not Ubuntu package
[09:07] <keith>  o i c it
[09:07] <keith> thanks guys
[09:07] <Malin> and it's causing problems
[09:07] <theeil> is there a non-graphical package installer (like aptitude)?
[09:07] <HappyFool> Malin: i believe debian binary packages can be incompatible
[09:07] <Malin> is there a way to adopt Debian package to Ubuntu?
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> HappyFool, can you do `cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status` and tell me what the last three rows say
[09:07] <ompaul> Malin, which package?
[09:08] <Malin> teamspeak2
[09:08] <HappyFool> EasterSunshine: pm ok?
[09:08] <Ng> theeil: apt-get and dpkg :)
[09:08] <Malin> http://www.hot.ee/hvc/ts2-client_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[09:08] <EasterSunshine> HappyFool, ok
[09:08] <Gnonthgol> theeil: Yes, aptitude and apt
[09:08] <Malin> i tried an official tar.bz2, but it wouldn't work
[09:09] <ompaul> Malin, build from source be aware of possible problems with dependencies
[09:09] <AzCowboy> Can anyone help me get my atheros wireless card working w/ wpa_supplicant?
[09:09] <Gnonthgol> Malin: the best thing is to download from someone hwo have converted it into .deb
[09:09] <Malin> ompaul, i tried, there was an install script, .sh, but id wouldn't work
[09:10] <Malin> Gnonthgol, i have downloaded a .deb package, but it was for Debian, not Ubuntu
[09:10] <Malin> i haven't found teamspeak2 in repositories
[09:11] <Gnonthgol> Malin: It should not be any problems
[09:11] <_u_> hi
[09:11] <Malin> Gnonthgol, there are problems with libc6
[09:11] <Gnonthgol> Malin: what is the problem?
[09:12] <Malin> ts2 .deb package depends on libc6 2.3.5-1, Ubuntu has 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14
[09:12] <Gnonthgol> Malin: you could try to add debian to sources.list just for the install
[09:12] <dalamar> yeah ive run into libc6 being too old for stuff too
[09:13] <topyli> grr. lyx-qt is still uninstallable on breezy. i guess fixing universe is not first on the list right now :)
[09:13] <konra`> how do I get/install mplayer from synaptic
[09:13] <wijnand> can anyone tell me how i can use gutenprint (instead of the older gimp-print) in ubuntu? i want to buy a printer that wasn't supported until very recently
[09:13] <konra`> ?
[09:13] <wolverian> topyli, I just with they finished lyx-gtk :)
[09:13] <kyncani> !mplayer
[09:13] <wolverian> s,with,wish,
[09:13] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:14] <Gnonthgol> ubotu mplayer
[09:14] <sander> how can I gain root with the sudo command in ubuntu?
[09:14] <thrush> sudo su
[09:14] <wolverian> sander, sudo -s
[09:14] <kamikazesponge> sander: sudo su - root
[09:14] <Gnonthgol> konra`: but first https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4c69034d5cc6530951eee44239cdf2c2a76049c1
[09:14] <topyli> wolverian: so true. still qt beats the xforms version :)
[09:14] <wolverian> (-s preserves the current HOME and such env variables, which might not be what you want.)
[09:14] <wolverian> topyli, in speed, anyway ;)
[09:14] <wijnand> kamikazesponge: sudo su - should do the trick
[09:15] <Viziri> it's one problem after another. How many hurdles before i get damn citrix to work!!!  any quickfire solution to " error: cannot find output from lex; giving up" - i was trying to install openmotif 2.2.3
[09:15] <kamikazesponge> wijnand: sudo su - too.. i'm used to su - root, because i switch users a lot, and not only root
[09:15] <topyli> wolverian: the xforms version also renders fonts so badly it's hard to work with
[09:15] <theeil> gnome is "being weird", it will not run any apps, i restarted gdm and it will not show the splash screen or start any gnome stuff at all. i don't think i messed around with anyhting yet
[09:15] <wijnand> anyone on gutenprint?
[09:15] <wolverian> topyli, oh! it's rendered fine for me always, but then again, I haven't used it extensively.
[09:15] <wolverian> (or on many configurations.)
[09:16] <topyli> wolverian: i used to use it, and got it to work ok. i guess i haven't bothered trying very hard now
[09:16] <wolverian> topyli, right - I didn't have to try. I guess it's a configuration thing.
[09:16] <wolverian> topyli, (I mean, hardware-specific, or something :)
[09:17] <kamikazesponge> i always have the root-acct enabled by default, i tinker a lot with the system so it's more convenient for me to just use the root acct
[09:17] <theeil> and does anyone know of a msn client for the command line?
[09:17] <topyli> wolverian: yeah, the X dpi and the unscaled fonts dpi mismatch or something
[09:17] <kamikazesponge> ah, i've been wondering that too
[09:17] <wolverian> kamikazesponge, you could just use sudo -s :)
[09:17] <spiderworm> hey all how do i get info from ubotu ... define does not seem to work, neither does !, tried "what is..."
[09:17] <wolverian> theeil, centericq, bitlbee (irc <-> im gateway)
[09:17] <wolverian> theeil, I can recommend bitlbee. it is wonderful.
[09:17] <kamikazesponge> wolverian: not with putty login :P
[09:17] <topyli> theeil: if you like irc, go with bitlbee
[09:17] <HappyFool> spiderworm: just type the word in a /query window
[09:18] <wolverian> kamikazesponge, ew, you have remote root logins enabled?
[09:18] <Viziri> I get the error " error: cannot find output from lex; giving up" - when trying to install openmotif - any ideas?
[09:18] <kamikazesponge> wolverian: i don't even have SSH forwarded to the internet, so that's pretty safe
[09:18] <spiderworm> HappyFool: lol simple enough, thanx
[09:18] <wolverian> kamikazesponge, okay. :)
[09:18] <topyli> wolverian: the qt library is on hoary though (same version). i wonder if the library itself is uninstallabe on breezy...
[09:19] <wolverian> topyli, I run breezy too. can I help you test somehow?
[09:19] <topyli> wolverian: i'm on hoary now. i left the broken breezy box at work
[09:20] <wolverian> topyli, my breezy works wonderfully, if I don't touch clearly broken packages. :)
[09:20] <topyli> wolverian: i think i'll upgrade. i'll build my own lyx if i can't get it to work
[09:21] <wolverian> topyli, have you tried the source package?
[09:21] <topyli> hmm. perhaps i should try the install cd's upgrade option. it has one doesn't it?
[09:21] <wolverian> topyli, yes.
[09:21] <topyli> wolverian: yes, goes to dependency hell
[09:21] <wolverian> not that it should make any difference.
[09:21] <Viziri> Anyone know of a GOOD Howto for installing Citrix? - if i can't get this to work my Ubuntu days are over
[09:21] <topyli> wolverian: just to test it
[09:21] <wolverian> topyli, right. is there a bug for it, by the way?
[09:21] <topyli> no
[09:21] <wolverian> topyli, submit one, please :)
[09:21] <ttyS0> !breezy screenshots
[09:21] <ubotu> ttyS0: Are you smoking crack?
[09:22] <topyli> wolverian: clearly it's the will of allah :)
[09:22] <Malin> there's another issue
[09:22] <wolverian> topyli, nothing is the will of allah in the glorious world of free software. we are atheists all.
[09:22] <Malin> i installed ts2 from .tar.bz2
[09:22] <Ashok> i am a newbie on linux part, i have managed to install ubuntu, i need some help in installing my internet
[09:22] <wolverian> (or, we are our own gods.)
[09:22] <Ashok> can any body help
[09:22] <Ashok> anybody from india ?
[09:22] <Malin> when i run it' everything i get is 8 identical processes: /home/malin/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak.bin
[09:22] <wolverian> Ashok, what kind of a connection do you have?
[09:23] <topyli> wolverian: there's this old saying of VMS gurus. "clearly it is the will of allah that i must throw the unix box out of the window. i submit to the will of allah"
[09:23] <Ashok> i am having a dial-up kinda connection, a fwp phone of Reliance India
[09:23] <wolverian> topyli, right. gnu's not unix. :)
[09:23] <Malin> any ideas?
[09:23] <Ashok> i even got the drivers of linux from their website
[09:23] <topyli> wolverian: damn right
[09:23] <Ashok> but it doesnt work out
[09:23] <ttyS0> where can i see screenshots of ubuntu 5.10?
[09:23] <Bergcube> topyli~ Are you saying allah was a DEC employee?
[09:24] <bunjix> ttyS0: Screenshots?
[09:24] <topyli> Bergcube: i don't he works for anybody. but his will is strong
[09:24] <ttyS0> bunjix, yes, screenshots.
[09:24] <topyli> Bergcube: strong enough to make vms gurus submit :)
[09:24] <bunjix> ttyS0: Why?
[09:25] <kamikazesponge> ok, this whole init-script thing is pissing me off -.-
[09:25] <topyli> wolverian: just had my first sip of absinth today. i feel like filing bugs
[09:25] <moparfan90> hello. how do i install something using wine?
[09:25] <Ashok> ANYBODY FROM INDIA USING UBUNTU  ????????????
[09:25] <Ashok> ANYBODY FROM INDIA USING UBUNTU ????????ANYBODY FROM INDIA USING UBUNTU
[09:25] <kyncani> moparfan90: just type  wine yourfile.exe
[09:26] <moparfan90> ok
[09:26] <thenuke> Ashok: please.. behave like others do
[09:26] <ttyS0> bunjix, Why what? I just want to see how does new version look
[09:26] <kamikazesponge> Ashok: propably not..
[09:26] <chumphries> not all people from india are that annoying i'm sure
[09:26] <Bergcube> topyli~ I'm agnostic.  I have seen VMS gurus achieve things.  I have never seen any deity achieve anything.  So until I see that I think it might be possible there are no deities.....
[09:26] <wolverian> topyli, real absinth? :)
[09:26] <kyncani> chumphries: /me hopes so
[09:26] <Ashok> sorry
[09:26] <Ashok> but i am totally confused dunno whereto go
[09:26] <Malin> arrrgh
[09:26] <bunjix> ttyS0, probably a lot like hoary... it's still gnome, right?
[09:26] <Ashok> i am not able to install the drivers
[09:26] <Jhair> Ashok, why should only from India help you. State clearly what doesn't work and probably someone here can answer your questions
[09:27] <topyli> wolverian: i think it's fake (bought from a nearby store here in helsinki). but it does taste like the real thing
[09:27] <ttyS0> bunjix, oh. i see. thx
[09:27] <kamikazesponge> Ashok: just don't panic
[09:27] <Bergcube> Ashok~ When everything else fails:  RTFM.  (Read the fine manual)
[09:27] <Ashok> well i am having a lg 2030 phone
[09:27] <Ashok> btw before that i have one question
[09:27] <kamikazesponge> Bergcube: wasn't it read the.. well.. never mind
[09:27] <Ashok> does this ubuntu hav a builtin administrator login
[09:27] <Ashok> ?
[09:27] <Bergcube> kamikazesponge~ It is THAT too!
[09:27] <wolverian> topyli, right. I don't know if it's actually legal here. there's supposedly some naming scheme that you can determine whether it's real or not by, but I don't know the details. maybe check wikipedia. :)
[09:27] <robotgeek> ubotu tell Ashok about sudo
[09:28] <kamikazesponge> Bergcube: oh, okay :P
[09:28] <Ashok> sudo ?
[09:28] <robotgeek> Ashok: i am from India, but i am not in India :)
[09:28] <robotgeek> Ashok: yeah, read that link
[09:28] <Ashok> ok
[09:28] <moparfan90> ok. i tryed installing something with wine and got a error can someone help me please?
[09:28] <kamikazesponge> WHOA!! i did it! i made an init-script for openvpn! wooooohoooooo! *makes a little victory dance*
[09:29] <kemik> topyli:  real absinth is like only available in Prague in europe
[09:29] <HappyFool> moparfan90: tried asking in #winehq ?
[09:29] <kamikazesponge> thanks everyone that helped me
[09:29] <bunjix> ubotu tell bunjix about sudo
[09:29] <kemik> topyli:  it's illegal everywhere else
[09:29] <topyli> wolverian: it says it has "wormwood infusion". and E512 :)
[09:29] <evilmegaman> Hi, I need some help getting my nvidia 6200 working
[09:29] <topyli> kemik: so i hear, it's allowed there for tradition
[09:29] <pirast> !ntfs
[09:29] <NoUse> !nvidia
[09:29] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:29] <wolverian> topyli, yeah, but I think the wormwood infusion can be done in different ways, and doesn't always actually infuse the active ingredient
[09:29] <wolverian> topyli, but I don't actually know.
[09:29] <evilmegaman> When I install the drivers, and enable them, I get all kinds of errors when I type in glxgears and glxinfo
[09:30] <wolverian> what kemik says sounds familiar.
[09:30] <evilmegaman> Sorry nouse, But I got a problem
[09:30] <moparfan90> ok
[09:30] <evilmegaman> nouse, Any ideas?
[09:30] <kemik> topyli:  yup.. too bad i didnt know that before i went through europe.. was planning to buy some, but when i realized the stuff in Budapest wasnt the real thing i didnt
[09:30] <topyli> wolverian: yes
[09:30] <Ashok> does that info mean, if i login with username sudo and pass blank i will get admin privileges
[09:30] <Ashok> ?
[09:30] <topyli> kemik: it's still great stuff
[09:30] <Bergcube> Ashok~ No.
[09:30] <kemik> cus without that weird hallucinogen it's just strong spirits :)
[09:30] <Ashok> then'?
[09:31] <robotgeek> Ashok:sudo mean "as superuser do"
[09:31] <_mike> hi, im wondering how to set up shadows /translucency for my windows in KDE
[09:31] <Malin> I installed ts2 from .tar.bz2 (with a little help of .sh install script). Now when i run it everything i get is 8 identical processes: /home/malin/TeamSpeak2RC2/TeamSpeak.bin
[09:31] <Malin> what am i doing wrong?
[09:31] <Bergcube> Ashok~ Stay logged in as yourself.  In the terminal write "sudo command parameter etc......" instead of "command parameter etc......" and your command gets executed with root priv.
[09:32] <kamikazesponge> Malin: maybe it's supposed to give 8 processes, MySQL uses a lot of processes too
[09:32] <sander> hi!.. can anyone help me getting up my wlan network?
[09:32] <Angelus_2969> I am trying to do that as well sander :)
[09:32] <wolverian> topyli, kemik, if you want hallucinogens, it's easier just to pick some psilocybins
[09:32] <Malin> kamikazesponge, but i'm supposed to see a teamspeak2 window
[09:32] <Angelus_2969> trying to get ndiswrapper on Ubuntu
[09:32] <wolverian> they're pretty common in finland, anyway :)
[09:32] <kemik> Malin:  does it work at all? usually server-applications start up > 1 process
[09:32] <Malin> and i get nothing but these processes
[09:32] <moparfan90> i asked them in #winehq and they wont say anything
[09:32] <moparfan90> help me please
[09:32] <Ashok> means any command which needs admin privileges to run, i can use sudo to give it admin privilege for tha particular porg
[09:32] <evilmegaman> If I installed the nvidia drivers, There should be a module right?
[09:32] <Ashok> prog**
[09:32] <kemik> wolverian:  yeah, but i really just wanted to try "the real absinth" ;)
[09:32] <kamikazesponge> Malin: ooh wait, i misunderstood, i thought you installed the server
[09:32] <sander> Angelus_2969, du you know what the interface sit0 is for?
[09:33] <kamikazesponge> Malin: i shouldn't think then should i :P
[09:33] <Malin> no, i installed the client
[09:33] <wolverian> kemik, right, me too :)
[09:33] <topyli> kemik: wolverian: yeah, you can mix them in vodka or whatever and there you go :)
[09:33] <thrush> sander: whats the problem?
[09:33] <kamikazesponge> Malin: i don't know a lot about the client on linux..
[09:33] <Malin> yeah, seems noone knows...
[09:33] <wolverian> topyli, I don't think I'd like alcohol with shrooms. hmm.
[09:33] <robotgeek> Ashok: isn't that what the link says ?
[09:33] <Bergcube> Ashok~ You're right.
[09:33] <Angelus_2969> sander, my wireless should be wlan0, but I think it depends on the distro
[09:33] <sander> thrush, the problem is to get my pci wlan card working.. its a Atheros Communication card
[09:33] <Ashok> hmm thanks
[09:33] <_mike> ...
[09:34] <kemik> Malin:  not used TS on linux.. but sounds weird that it spawns 8 processes
[09:34] <sander> Angelus_2969, I use ubuntu
[09:34] <Angelus_2969> sander, or the kind of card
[09:34] <Angelus_2969> well, I haven't got it working yet :)
[09:34] <sander> Angelus_2969, yes.. its a D-Link DWL-G520
[09:35] <Angelus_2969> rather stupid question, but what is the root password in ubuntu????
[09:35] <sander> Angelus_2969, do you know what it takes to get madwifi?
[09:35] <Bergcube> If a source tree falls over in the woods, but nobody's there to hear it.................
[09:35] <evilmegaman> Anyone have any idea about if I install the nvidia drivers and there is no module what should I do?
[09:35] <Angelus_2969> sander, no experience with madwifi, sorry
[09:35] <Angelus_2969> only ndiswrapper on other distros
[09:35] <_mike> ...can anyone help me?
[09:36] <thrush> sander: what do you get if you type ifconfig sit0
[09:36] <wijnand> can anyone tell me how i can use gutenprint (instead of the older gimp-print) in ubuntu? i want to buy a printer that wasn't supported until very recently
[09:36] <Malin> kemik, i know
[09:36] <evilmegaman> Can anyone help ME?
[09:36] <robotgeek> !anyone
[09:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:36] <evilmegaman> I have asked only 15 times in this channel
[09:36] <Bergcube> evilmegaman~ AFAIK the same nvidia driver can take care of all cards.  I simply installed the default nividia driver and it worked like a charm.
[09:36] <kemik> haha, om.. robotgeek used my anyone! ;)
[09:36] <kemik> im so proud
[09:36] <sander> thrush, two sec
[09:36] <wolverian> congratulations kemik :)
[09:36] <robotgeek> kemik: :)
[09:36] <NoUse> evilmegaman run dpkg -L nvidia-kernel-common
[09:36] <Angelus_2969> evilmegaman, just use the run files, nothing else is needed
[09:37] <evilmegaman> Ok thank you NoUse :)
[09:37] <robotgeek> it does work, anyone!
[09:37] <mikkelk> Hi... how do i change things so that i must do root-typical things (synaptic etc) as root and not a normal user?
[09:37] <evilmegaman> What directory would that be in nouse?
[09:37] <Angelus_2969> root password anyone??
[09:37] <wolverian> topyli, where do you live, by the way?
[09:37] <NoUse> evilmegaman you can run it from anywhere
[09:37] <kyncani> mikelds: look into /etc/sudoers
[09:37] <wolverian> topyli, if I can ask :)
[09:37] <kemik> !root
[09:37] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:37] <Angelus_2969> it didn't ask me at install, just the user
[09:37] <evilmegaman> thanks NoUse
[09:37] <topyli> wolverian: just found out the universe bugzilla is different. it has a lyx but, awaiting debian fix
[09:37] <Bergcube> mikkelk~ You should not change things that way.
[09:37] <Ng> Angelus_2969: there isn't one
[09:37] <topyli> wolverian: helsinki, finland
[09:37] <Angelus_2969> ng, you are joking right?
[09:38] <wolverian> topyli, right, I mean, where in helsinki :)
[09:38] <kyncani> mikelds: and set root password
[09:38] <Ng> Angelus_2969: no, the root account is disabled by default, see the RootSudo link that ubotu just mentioned
[09:38] <topyli> wolverian: oh. in tapanila
[09:38] <wolverian> topyli, oh, never been there. I actually don't even know if it's in the east or west.
[09:38] <wolverian> topyli, (and I'm supposed to move to helsinki next month :/)
[09:38] <Angelus_2969> ng, thank you
[09:39] <topyli> wolverian: it's in the north by the railroad, almost vantaa side, behind malmi
[09:39] <topyli> countryside
[09:39] <wolverian> topyli, oh, right! I remember now.
[09:39] <wolverian> topyli, that's practically countryside :)
[09:39] <sander> thrush, I only get a inet6 adress.. not any inet
[09:39] <sander> hmm
[09:40] <topyli> wolverian: nice and green, small houses
[09:40] <Angelus_2969> anyone installed ndiswrapper on Ubuntu?
[09:40] <spiderworm> me
[09:40] <sander> anyone know what the interface sit0 is for?
[09:40] <wolverian> topyli, yeah. I take it you're not a fan of the centre?
[09:40] <kamikazesponge> is there an easy way to make my init-script display those cool messages (like 'starting openvpn vpn server.. [ ok ] ' or something like that)
[09:41] <robotgeek> kamikazesponge: echo not good enuf?
[09:41] <hosler> The ubuntu Nvidia drivers stop working from time to time. Sometimes when i run glxgears i get nothing but a blank screen. anyone know how to fix this?
[09:41] <Butcherbird_Jr> no hes not
[09:41] <Angelus_2969> I have installed the ndiswrapper-util through the add/remove tool
[09:41] <Angelus_2969> but that isn't enough is it?
[09:41] <kamikazesponge> robotgeek: guess it'll have to do :P
[09:41] <topyli> wolverian: nah, i prefer quiet. the train takes me to the city in 15 minutes anyway
[09:41] <kemik> !ndiswrapper
[09:41] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:41] <Ng> kamikazesponge: yes, take a look at an existing init script for usage of log_begin_msg and log_end_msg
[09:41] <kamikazesponge> robotgeek: but i noticed the 'lob_begin_msg "blah"' in other init-scripts, so i thought it could be used that way too
[09:41] <kemik> Angelus_2969:  tried the wiki ?
[09:41] <wolverian> topyli, that's nice. :)
[09:41] <Ng> kamikazesponge: (they are functions in /lib/lsb/init-functions)
[09:41] <Angelus_2969> kemik, just saw the link :)
[09:42] <kamikazesponge> Ng: ok, thx for the hint
[09:42] <Angelus_2969> so i'm going there and have  look
[09:42] <mikkelk> kemik, i know that. But i'm used to the good ol' way (su and running  administrative things like Synaptic as Root, not my normal user), so i want it that way still. That has got to be possible
[09:42] <sexcopter8000m> hello, i'm trying to get a package "bmp-skins", but can't find it, i'm not sure what repo it should be in
[09:43] <sexcopter8000m> but these are what i've got already http://users.fission.org.uk/~sexcopter/Screenshot-synaptic.png
[09:43] <Angelus_2969> sander, sit0 rings a bell in the back of my mind, but can't think of it
[09:43] <kamikazesponge> is RUN_MODE="daemons" safe to use for openvpn?
[09:44] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a DVD backup program for ubuntu?
[09:44] <kemik> mikkelk:  well, "sudo -i" in a terminal will give you  a root terminal.. or you could startup X as root too etc...
[09:44] <Butcherbird_Jr> I have enabled the root account for login and now I want to disable it.  Is there any way to do this
[09:45] <kemik> !root
[09:45] <ubotu> hmm... root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:45] <kemik> Butcherbird_Jr:  i think it's in the wiki
[09:45] <cemc> re
[09:45] <cemc> aurax: i'm now intalling ubuntu on raid0
[09:45] <Angelus_2969> sander: sit stands for "simple internet transition" and is bassically a device
[09:45] <Angelus_2969> capable of encapsulating ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams.
[09:46] <mikkelk> kemik, but i don't want that...! i just want things to be the good old way of su'ing and so...
[09:47] <Butcherbird_Jr> kemik, Thx for the info
[09:47] <hosler> If my video card has a tv out port and I try to use a tv as my monitor, will Ubuntu automatically set the tv as my monitor, or do I have to configure stuff?
[09:47] <kemik> mikkelk:  not sure i follow you there... when you run synaptic you give password (use gksudo)
[09:47] <sander> Angelus_2969, ok.. so it got nothing to do with my wlan network?
[09:47] <yotam> I installed for a friend Hoary 5.10 and wlan of AR5212 / 802,11abg / Athero was not recognized.
[09:48] <yotam> Hoary-5.04
[09:48] <sander> it seems like I got wlan,ath_pci,ath_rate_onoe drives loaded
[09:48] <sander> how can I configure those?
[09:48] <Angelus_2969> sander, not really, if you google on sit0, you will find that more people see this, but most don't know how it got there :)
[09:48] <Angelus_2969> it's used for tunnelling
[09:48] <sander> thrush?
[09:48] <Angelus_2969> that much is clear :)
[09:48] <lesang> whta's up?
[09:48] <lesang> what's up?
[09:48] <lesang> who am i talking to?
[09:48] <yotam> Breezy-of August-17 did not recognize this Wireless NIC also.
[09:49] <Butcherbird_Jr> sander, hes still afk
[09:49] <mikkelk> kemik, when i run for eksample synaptic it asks for a password, my normal users  (MikkelK) password. I want it to ask for Roots password
[09:49] <Pluk> hmm weird my ar5121 got recognized by default
[09:49] <hmrocha> hello, in what group must a user be in to be able to mount a removable usb disk?
[09:49] <Pluk> ar5212*
[09:49] <mikkelk> and i don't want to sudo everything
[09:50] <lesang> guys  iam new to this...who are you???
[09:50] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone tell me what repository bmp-skins is in??
[09:50] <lesang> i mean where in the world am I?
[09:50] <Butcherbird_Jr> mikkelk, are you wanting to disable sudo for your reg user account?
[09:50] <Angelus_2969> sander, maybe this will get rid of the sit0: > Another question is, how do you get rid of a device
[09:50] <Angelus_2969> > like that?
[09:50] <Angelus_2969> Odds are that you have an ipv6 module that is getting autoloaded.
[09:50] <Angelus_2969> You should be able to turn that off in /etc/modules.conf:
[09:51] <Angelus_2969> alias net-pf-10 off           # IPv6
[09:51] <mikkelk> Butcherbird_Jr, yes...
[09:51] <robotgeek> sexcopter8000m: xmms skins work
[09:52] <robotgeek> hmrocha: if u have the gnome-volume-manager, it shud automount /media/<label>
[09:52] <Angelus_2969> sander, you should be able to setup network cards (like the wlan) with desktop->administration->networking
[09:53] <Malin> but it's quite hard
[09:53] <hmrocha> robotgeek, i installed ubuntu, and with the user i created in the instalation, every usb disk works fine
[09:53] <Baskerville> Sometimes I have sound, others I don't
[09:53] <Baskerville> Can someone help me, please?
[09:53] <robotgeek> hmrocha: then?
[09:53] <hmrocha> but i also have hundreds of users *imported* from AD
[09:54] <robotgeek> hmrocha: AD?
[09:54] <hmrocha> when i log in with one of those users, the usb disk is detected but not mounted
[09:54] <hmrocha> robotgeek, Microsoft Active Directory
[09:54] <Angelus_2969> hmrocha, please don't swear ;)
[09:54] <NoUse> !sound
[09:54] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[09:54] <NoUse> ^-- Baskerville
[09:54] <robotgeek> hmrocha: okay, try adding tp
[09:54] <hmrocha> robotgeek, tp?
[09:55] <Baskerville> NoUse: Can you?
[09:55] <robotgeek> hmrocha: sorry, try looking at pmount
[09:55] <popey> I have a problem with Xorg and a DELL E771a. It whines.. a high pitched buzzing noise.. but ONLY when at 1024x768x75Hz. At 800x600 it doesn't. It also only seems to buzz when there's dark stuff predominantly on the screen. If it's light (like the google home page for example) then it makes no noise at all.. any ideas? I have used get-edid|parse-edid to generate the monitor section in my xorg.conf.. but it still does it..
[09:55] <afra> welcher button ist auf der tastatur der decline button?
[09:55] <robotgeek> hmrocha: it's difficult to type with one hand!
[09:55] <Angelus_2969> sander, did it work?
[09:55] <NoUse> Baskerville look above my message, look at that site
[09:55] <hmrocha> robotgeek, ok, i'll try, thanks
[09:55] <lachkeks> ;-)
[09:55] <kemik> mikkelk:  i guess you can remove your user from the Admin group and enable the root account
[09:55] <kemik> mikkelk:  but im not sure about that
[09:55] <hmrocha> i don't know why other users can't mount usb devices but, it's ok
[09:55] <Baskerville> NoUse: Which one?
[09:56] <robotgeek> hmrocha: maybe just adding those users to pmount group, if one exists
[09:56] <NoUse> !tell Baskerville about sound
[09:56] <hmrocha> i'll find out, this must work, students should be able to use their usb disks
[09:56] <saggytits> ok im starting to think i know why i cant get linux installed on this pc .. ubuntu and mandrake both say no cd-rom and hd found and knoppix gets stuck on no cd-rom ... its a compaq r4000
[09:56] <robotgeek> hmrocha: true
 kemik, when i run for eksample synaptic it asks for a password, my normal users  (MikkelK) password. I want it to ask for Roots password <<<< I'm not giving you my password :P
[10:00] <hmrocha> robotgeek, i got this in a mailing list
[10:00] <mikkelk> ;)
[10:00] <hmrocha> "We solved (4) by introducing a new group called 'plugdev'. Every user
[10:00] <hmrocha> who is a member of this group can access hotpluggable devices (digital
[10:00] <hmrocha> cameras, USB drives etc.)"
[10:00] <kamikazesponge> how can i kill a process with a pid flie?
[10:00] <kemik> haha
[10:00] <Baskerville> NoUse: pvt?
[10:00] <kemik> nice one Roots  =)
[10:00] <hmrocha> i'll try adding my student user to this group to see if my ipod gets mounted
[10:01] <cemc> kamikazesponge: kill `cat pidfile.pid` ?
[10:01] <Baskerville> NoUse: 00:00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device cab3 (rev 05)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M]
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4347 (rev 01)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4348 (rev 01)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4345 (rev 01)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc ATI SMBus (rev 18)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4349
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 434c
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4342
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 434d (rev 01)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4437
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:02:04.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[10:01] <kamikazesponge> cemc: thx, that did it
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:02:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:02:07.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[10:01] <Baskerville> 0000:02:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
[10:01] <kamikazesponge> Baskerville.. what are you doing
[10:02] <cemc> kamikazesponge: then you have to remove the pidfile too
[10:02] <Baskerville> NoUse: The audio driver is there, but sometismes ir starts, others don't
[10:02] <hmrocha> can i put a group inside a group?
[10:02] <kamikazesponge> cemc: good point
[10:02] <hmrocha> i mean, all students belong to group student
[10:02] <hmrocha> i mean, all students belong to group students
[10:02] <hmrocha> can i put students group inside plugdev group?
[10:02] <Blissex> hmrocha: no
[10:02] <Blissex> hmrocha: you can put individual users into groups.
[10:03] <pfp> groups can't be nested on unix
[10:03] <hmrocha> Blissex, i'll have to put 1200 usernames in the plugdev group?
[10:03] <j005u> can i have some help with screen resoulutions? ubuntu set the xorg conf up fine, all the modes are what they're supposed to be, but i can't select my native res 1280x800 from gnome :s
[10:03] <Blissex> hmrocha: burt if the purpose is access control to _files_, with ACLs you can grant access to two or more groups, nstead of just one.
[10:04] <Blissex> j005u: there is a nice FAQ on the Ubuntu Wiki about that IIRC
[10:04] <pfp> !resolution
[10:04] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:04] <j005u> Blissex,  oh. thanks. i'll have a look
[10:05] <Blissex> j005u: you will need a 1280x800 modeline, just web search for it.
[10:05] <pfp> j005u: that link from ubotu may help
[10:05] <hmrocha> Blissex, i just want to add the students usernames to the plugdev group so they can mount their usb disks
[10:05] <Blissex> hmrocha: that's sort of unnecessary.
[10:05] <hmrocha> Blissex, why? only the users inside "plugdev" group can mount their usb disks
[10:05] <Zibby> Anyone know of a command line program that can record a wav from line in or mic input?
[10:06] <Blissex> hmrocha: no, if you edit '/etc/fstab' to allow mounting by any user.
[10:06] <DVSoftware> hello
[10:06] <Arsonide> Alright kyncani I did what you said and followed the nvidia wiki, but I still don't have "85hz" available in my screen resolution and this is giving me a headache.
[10:06] <Blissex> hmrocha: also, the usual UNIXy way of doing these things is to use a ''setuid''/''setgid'' bridge utility
[10:06] <DVSoftware> is it possible to install vmware on 64bit ubuntu?
[10:06] <hmrocha> Blissex, all usb disks are managed by HAL, no lines get added to /etc/fstab
[10:06] <Blissex> hmrocha: for example you can use 'sudo'
[10:06] <hmrocha> Blissex, students can't use sudo
[10:06] <seb345> Hello
[10:07] <Blissex> hmrocha: why not?
[10:07] <pfp> heh
[10:07] <Blissex> hmrocha: also, if HAL automounts the USB disks, it can mount them with whatever group ownership.
[10:07] <hmrocha> users must plug the usb disk and it should appear in the desktop without the need to open a terminal
[10:08] <hmrocha> Blissex, i'll try to solve this problem without adding 1200 users to the plugdev group
[10:09] <Arsonide> Nobody knows how to change the refresh rate?
[10:09] <pfp> hmrocha: hmm, what's wrong with adding 1200 users to that group?
[10:09] <Homerr> mooooo
[10:09] <Arsonide> 60hz is killing me.
[10:09] <hmrocha> pfp, i'll have to write a script to search all /home users to add them to the /etc/group
[10:09] <Homerr> :p
[10:09] <cemc> Homerr: ?
[10:09] <thrush> aronide:you can change in the config file right?
[10:10] <cemc> wazzup? :)
[10:10] <Homerr> hey :)
[10:10] <cemc> Homerr: reinstalled windows? :)
[10:10] <Homerr> thought id come let you know the mbr is completely ****ed
[10:10] <Arsonide> Well it won't let me go up to 85 hz using 1280x1024
[10:10] <Blissex> hmrocha: moreover if you have like > 1200 users perhaps you are using a non-flat-file authentication database
[10:10] <Homerr> yeah, twice
[10:10] <cemc> Homerr: huhh?
[10:10] <Arsonide> I don't know where the config file is, or how to edit it.
[10:10] <ttyS0> how to restart hald ? :)
[10:10] <Arsonide> Or what it is.
[10:10] <Homerr> the mbr on the 60gb is reeaaallly messed
[10:10] <hmrocha> Blissex, yes, i'm using AD
[10:10] <hmrocha> Blissex, there are no users in /etc/passwd
[10:10] <cemc> ttyS0: /etc/init.d/hald restart ?
[10:10] <Homerr> it happened when i did an oc stunt earlier in the week
[10:10] <hmrocha> Blissex, only the default users
[10:10] <Blissex> hmrocha: so mass addition/deletion should be not that big a deal.
[10:10] <pfp> hmrocha: hmm, sounds like a 5-10 min job at max? :)
[10:11] <ttyS0> cemc, /etc/init.d/hald: No such file or directory  :)
[10:11] <cemc> hehh :)
[10:11] <hmrocha> pfp, it would be easier if i could say that all users in group students also belong to group plugdev
[10:11] <Homerr> cemc so ive put the drive i was supposed to be installing ubuntu to as primary master and am installing winblows on it now (it has a clean mbr)
[10:11] <Blissex> hmrocha: however the combination of AD, HAL/hotplug/automount, and fine grained access control is not an  easy combination.
[10:12] <seb345> you only have to do 'adduser my_student_user plugdev'
[10:12] <Homerr> then if windows can boot by itself (it was only booting last night because the setup cd was in... very weird) then ill go ahead and install ubuntu to the drive with the borked mbr
[10:12] <hmrocha> Blissex, adding all users to /etc/group will work perfectly
[10:12] <Homerr> if it doesnt work im going to boot into the livecd
[10:12] <Homerr> and zero out the mbr on both drives
[10:12] <Homerr> and start again
[10:12] <hmrocha> Blissex, i have tried with my student account and it works fine
[10:12] <cemc> Homerr: and you install grub on hda ?
[10:12] <Blissex> hmrocha: note also that if you dont use flat files, your authentication database can easily do things like nested groups.
[10:12] <cemc> right?
[10:12] <Arsonide> Where is the config file?
[10:13] <Homerr> cemc yep grub will go on hda where windows + the mbr is
[10:13] <pfp> hmrocha: hmm, since you're using AD (windows 200x?), could you do it on the AD side and have AD emulate it so that linuxen would see just two separate groups?
[10:13] <Homerr> ill let you know how it goes
[10:13] <Homerr> i re configured my drives this morning
[10:13] <Blissex> hmrocha: what UNIX/Linux cannot do is to _imply_ that group X has the same permissions as Y plus more.
[10:14] <Homerr> it now goes, pri master (hda) = 40gb drive, pri slave (hdb) 60gb drive (borked mbr), sec master = dvdrw (hdc), sec slave = 200gb drive (hdd)
[10:14] <Homerr> insteasd of the backwards assed way it was yesterday
[10:14] <hmrocha> pfp, i don't know how to do that :(
[10:14] <pfp> :/
[10:15] <hmrocha> Blissex, pfp, i'll try to solve my problem tomorrow, thanks for the help, i have to go to the cinema now
[10:15] <hmrocha> bye
[10:15] <YT> Could someone help me with a xorg CPU usage question?
[10:15] <pfp> best of luck.
[10:15] <hmrocha> pfp, thanks
[10:15] <hmrocha> pfp, i'll need it
[10:15] <pfp> :)
[10:16] <setite> hey i added hoary-extras and i cant find libdvdcss2
[10:16] <YT> I'm running Ubuntu, and Xorg is eating up 80-100% CPU time and 20% of memory. Only seems to happen after after about 6-8 hours of uptime.
[10:17] <YT> if I restart X, then it's fine for another 6-8 hours. then it's back to 80-100% CPU usage.
[10:17] <cemc> Homerr: it's better this way :)
[10:17] <Homerr> indeed it is cemc
[10:17] <Homerr> that and i had an ATA33 cable in there
[10:18] <setite> !libdvdcss
[10:18] <ubotu> setite: What?
[10:18] <Homerr> so the 60gb drive was running at ata33
[10:18] <setite> !dvd
[10:18] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[10:18] <pfp> YT: a bug perhaps..
[10:18] <setite> !hoary-extras
[10:18] <ubotu> I guess hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:18] <bigpump> so what software is available for amd64 via apt right now?
[10:18] <cemc> hm,
[10:18] <cemc> i'm trying to install a hoary in a vmware
[10:19] <cemc> it's stuck at running "grub install (hd0)..."
[10:19] <cemc> any ideas?
[10:19] <cemc> it's stuck for a good 20 minutes now...
[10:19] <bigpump> have you googled that? i would think there is something around for vmware and the boot loader installation
[10:20] <pfp> cemc: or have yoy looked at the logs/errors on oher VCs (alt-f2,3..)
[10:20] <cemc> yepp,
[10:20] <cemc> it doesn't say any errors,
[10:20] <cemc> only the standard grub message,
[10:20] <cemc> detecting bios whatever,
[10:20] <cemc> it may take a long time :)
[10:20] <cemc> i know that,
[10:21] <cemc> but not this long :)
[10:21] <Arsonide> I don't know my monitor range...
[10:21] <Arsonide> How do I figure that out?
[10:21] <chumphries> monitor documentation
[10:21] <Arsonide> Don't have that...
[10:21] <chumphries> also vendor specs are on their website
[10:21] <pfp> Arsonide: google for Monitor Model HorizSync
[10:21] <pfp> cemc: heh, weird. maybe use lilo?
[10:21] <bigpump> ya cemc are you running vmware from windows?
[10:21] <cemc> bigpump: nope, fc2
[10:22] <cemc> and i installed fc2-4 a zillion times under vmware
[10:22] <cemc> with grub
[10:22] <cemc> an scsi, on ide
[10:22] <cemc> no problems there
[10:22] <cemc> i dunno what the heck
[10:22] <bigpump> ya i dont know
[10:22] <din> cemc: it hates you
[10:23] <cemc> mmm... maybe it's because now i'm trying to install it in a raid0 ?
[10:23] <pfp> cemc: ooh... you cant install grub on raid0
[10:23] <chumphries> maybe
[10:23] <din> it needs to be installed on the 1st sector of the 1st read drive
[10:23] <cemc> well...,
[10:23] <pfp> cemc: either raid1, or use a plain partition for /boot
[10:23] <cemc> it didn't ask me,
[10:23] <cemc> where i want to install it
[10:23] <cemc> so...
[10:24] <chrissturm> vmware should virtualize that...
[10:24] <din> pfp: i have it installed on like 15 servers here at work with raid0
[10:24] <pfp> cemc: ... if the raid is inside vmware, not on the host machine that is
[10:24] <cemc> i guess it is trying to install it on hd0 => hda
[10:24] <cemc> _i guess_
[10:24] <din> just run grub
[10:24] <din> and set it up where it needs to be
[10:24] <cemc> well... i would,
[10:24] <chumphries> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-66857.html
[10:25] <din> lol only it doesn't boot
[10:25] <cemc> but it's stuck at the install process
[10:25] <chumphries> grub on raid0 in fedora, not possible
[10:25] <cemc> wait a sec :)
[10:25] <cemc> hold on ;)
[10:25] <cemc> i have fedora on the comp,
[10:25] <cemc> runnning vmware,
[10:25] <Arsonide> ok I think I found my ranges, but the config file is read only.
[10:25] <cemc> in vmware i have hda and hdb
[10:25] <Arsonide> How do I change that?
[10:25] <cemc> hda, hdb => md0
[10:25] <cemc> raid0
[10:26] <thrush> just sudo gedit
[10:26] <din> there ya go
[10:26] <din> :P
[10:26] <chumphries> if you are root, or root permissions just write it
[10:26] <cemc> i formatted md0 to ext3,
[10:26] <pfp> Arsonide: run sudo dpkg-reconfgure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <cemc> and installed ubuntu on it
[10:26] <cemc> i set up md0 also with ubuntu
[10:26] <cemc> it installed the base,
[10:26] <pfp> Arsonide: then choose advanced (or something) for monitor conf, it'll ask you
[10:26] <cemc> and the packages,
[10:26] <cemc> now it sits on grub
[10:26] <cemc> and does nothing
[10:26] <cemc> but it never asked me where is want to install grub
[10:27] <cemc> is = i
[10:27] <cemc> and i started it with linux expert :-P
[10:27] <chumphries> if there was only one device, why would it ask :)
[10:27] <cemc> at least it should've asked me :)
[10:27] <cemc> there are two devices,
[10:27] <j005u> why can't i edit fstab? won't allow me to save..
[10:27] <cemc> hda and hdb
[10:27] <din> j005u: are you root?
[10:28] <cemc> md0 is not a real device, it has no mbr whatever, i guess
[10:28] <chumphries> if they are a md0, it wouldn't use it
[10:28] <din> cemc: it needs to be on hda
[10:28] <j005u> din: nope, i'm the default user.. don't know the root password .. :/
[10:28] <cemc> so, it should put in on hda :)
[10:28] <chumphries> just redo it creating a /boot on a non-raid0
[10:28] <din> j005u: sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[10:28] <j005u> thanks
[10:29] <cemc> the idea is to install it without some extra boot partitions
[10:29] <cemc> i know _that_ works
[10:29] <cemc> hm,
[10:29] <chumphries> trying to put a round peg in a square hole never works
[10:29] <cemc> :)
[10:29] <cemc> lemme try something
[10:29] <j005u> din,  i've been using vi for ages. how the hell do i save in nano? :D
[10:30] <Arsonide> I did that command and it's taking me through a configuration thing, I have no idea what I'm doing though.
[10:30] <din> j005u: you can use vi
[10:30] <din> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:30] <din> ctrl x to leave nano
[10:30] <pfp> Arsonide: why, ask us then :)
[10:30] <j005u> din, ok. was wondering what i'd replace -w with...
[10:30] <topyli> j005u: nano has onscreen help, you're looking at it
[10:30] <din> -w means wordwrap in nano
[10:31] <Arsonide> Is there any way to just make it not read only?
[10:31] <j005u> oh. allright. thanks anway. promted me weather i wanted to save on ctrl x :p
[10:31] <pfp> Arsonide: you shouldn't make it writable to normal users (since it's a systm-wide conf file), but edit it with root privileges instead
[10:32] <topyli> Arsonide: use sudo in the first place when you edit it
[10:32] <thrush> just chmod 777 -R / no worries
[10:32] <pfp> Arsonide: that would be eg. 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:32] <Angelus_2969> how can I *NOT* use WEP in the system->administration->networking
[10:33] <Angelus_2969> I am using a Linksys pcmcia card, and ndiswrapper doesn't support wep (or wpa for that matter) with this card
[10:33] <topyli> Arsonide: or for a config utility, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:33] <zukalk> Angelus_2969, just leave the field blank
[10:33] <strav> he, simple quick question: could someone point me out to a .deb packages archives (one that would most likely list every .deb installation files there are for a maximum of softwares?
[10:33] <pfp> topyli: he tried that, but found it too confusing i guess .)
[10:33] <Arsonide> hahaha, ok when I do that command it doesn't open the existing one, it makes a new file
[10:33] <Angelus_2969> zukalk, hmmmm, it doesn't work then either
[10:34] <Angelus_2969> I tried that first :)
[10:34] <bigpump> are there any amd64 drivers for WLAN cards?
[10:34] <zukalk> that'd odd
[10:34] <frttrrr> hi all
[10:34] <zukalk> that's* odd
[10:34] <topyli> pfp: well, it is confusing i suppose :)
[10:34] <Angelus_2969> zukalk, yes, and I know the card works with these drivers and ndis
[10:34] <pfp> Arsonide: heh, are you sure you got the name correctly?
[10:34] <din> Angelus_2969: what card?
[10:34] <xecto> hello!
[10:34] <Arsonide> there it goes
[10:35] <din> prob a broadcom
[10:35] <din> heh
[10:35] <Arsonide> ok, now finally maybe I can get a refresh rate that doesn't make my eyes bleed
[10:35] <Angelus_2969> a linksys wpc54g ver 1.2
[10:35] <bimberi> strav: not simple afaik - there is this though: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages
[10:35] <setite> someone helpe me get libdvdcss2
[10:35] <setite> for some reason it is no showing up even though i added hoary-extras
[10:35] <pfp> topyli: jep :)
[10:36] <strav> there ain't something like freshrpms for debian based ditros?
[10:36] <bimberi> setite: did you update the repos
[10:36] <bimberi> ?
[10:36] <setite> yup
[10:36] <din> Angelus_2969: is the card up and working?
[10:36] <xecto> do somebody knows how I can bind a tcp port to a qemu host? My host has 2 nics.   I don't know whether it's in extras.
[10:38] <chumphries> setite: probably best to just get the mplayer code and codecs and compile.
[10:38] <Angelus_2969> din: it can't use wep, that is the issue :)
[10:38] <xecto> do somebody knows how I can bind a tcp port to a qemu host? My host has 2 nics. Excuse for my englisch, i'm german.. ;) nobody knows?
[10:38] <din> what kind of wifi card can't use a wep key?
[10:38] <din> get a aironet or an oronico
[10:39] <Angelus_2969> din: it can use it, just not with ndiswrapper :)
[10:39] <din> wlan0 ?
[10:39] <cemc> din: i got it, hehh ;)
[10:39] <Angelus_2969> din: yes
[10:39] <kemik> chumphries:  maybe that comment was a bit out of line ?
[10:39] <din> Angelus_2969: one sec
[10:39] <kemik> setite:  tried vlc ?
[10:40] <fanopnaic> setite: I have it in ubuntu-backports and marillat.  I don't know whether it's in extras.
[10:40] <kemik> !restricted
[10:40] <setite> it is in extras.. which is why this is confusing me
[10:40] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:40] <fanopnaic> Ah, ok.
[10:40] <chumphries> kemik: i don't think it was
[10:40] <Arsonide> Alright, it was like pulling teeth but I finally got 85hz, and probably broke 30 other things in the process (startup seems to be slower now).
[10:40] <setite> i'd prefer not to use marillat if i have to... on my laptop there was a significant quality difference between the marillat and hoary-extras version
[10:41] <cfq> hi everyone
[10:41] <chumphries> mplayer and codecs is pretty much the best there is and it is complete, more than anything else really.
[10:41] <cfq> does ubuntu 5.04 run wireless nic drivers over ndiswrapper?
[10:41] <fanopnaic> setite: and what exactly doesn't work?
[10:41] <kemik> i'd go with VLC but thats me
[10:41] <twosharp> My OpenGL settings are not working even if my nvidia-glx driver is installed :s
[10:41] <setite> found the issue
[10:41] <kemik> setite:  i found it using apt-cache search w32codecs... sure you've added hoary-extras ?
[10:41] <cfq> i have ipw2200
[10:42] <twosharp> what can i do to fix it?
[10:42] <setite> the hoary-extras is for 32bit and not 64
[10:42] <pfp> twosharp: have you configured X (xorg) to use the driver?
[10:42] <kemik> oh.. running 64bit is just a lot of extra work
[10:42] <cfq> i am trying to configure kismetg
[10:43] <cfq> i cannot let kismet.conf accept my wireless source
[10:43] <twosharp> pfp: no, it always been doig that itself, but i reformatted a couple days ago and now it wont work
[10:44] <Arsonide> So wait, installing the nvidia-glx means I don't need to install the driver I downloaded?
[10:44] <pfp> twosharp: what does 'grep -i nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf' say? is the driver "nv" or "nvidia"
[10:44] <Burgundavia> Arsonide, yes
[10:44] <cfq> how can i understand if i am using the native wireless drivers or the ndiswrapper?
[10:45] <Arsonide> Does it update itself?
[10:45] <Burgundavia> cfq, ndiswrapper requires setup
[10:45] <twosharp> pfp: Driver          "nv"
[10:45] <Burgundavia> Arsonide, yes, as you move to the next verion of ubuntu
[10:45] <Homerr> bah
[10:45] <Arsonide> Sweet.
[10:45] <Homerr> cemc
[10:45] <Homerr> it didnt work :(
[10:45] <Homerr> disk boot faliure
[10:45] <Burgundavia> cfq, if it just works, you have a native driver
[10:45] <Homerr> god damn piece of **** wants slapping
[10:45] <cemc> Homerr: ?
[10:45] <Angelus_2969> leaving the wep entry empty make the card after a ifup command trying to get a dhcp adress
[10:46] <Angelus_2969> which it doesn't get
[10:46] <Arsonide> There are 80 thousand screensavers.
[10:46] <cemc> you had a running windows on hda,
[10:46] <Homerr> putting the 40gb as the pri master and installing windows didnt work
[10:46] <cfq> Burgundavia: i am trying to configure kismet
[10:46] <Homerr> cemc nope
[10:46] <cemc> installed ubuntu on hdb,
[10:46] <mikkelk> I use GNOME, but i tried to install KDE, just to try it out. Now i've uninstalled it again, but in Applications -> Debian -> there are stille a lot of icons to KDE-programs, but they don't work anymore, they are just taking up space. Is there a way to get rid of all menu entries that don't work?
[10:46] <cemc> and it doesn't work?
[10:46] <Homerr> it wants the windows cd in to boot
[10:46] <cfq> Burgundavia: and i have ipw2200 in lsmod
[10:46] <Burgundavia> cfq, some drivers don't work with kismet
[10:46] <Homerr> without that, it just chucks disk boot faliure at me
[10:46] <soulf> hi everybody
[10:46] <twosharp> pfp: shouldn't it be nv?
[10:46] <soulf> !!
[10:46] <ubotu> hmm... ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[10:46] <cemc> Homerr: hmmm...
[10:46] <pfp> twosharp: ok.. btw, have you installed the linux-restriced-modules... package?
[10:46] <soulf> first session with ubuntu
[10:46] <Homerr> gonna zero the mbr's cemc i think they're corrupted as hell
[10:46] <cfq> Burgundavia: i saw my driver in the list.
[10:47] <twosharp> pfp: no, i dont think so.. i'll check :)
[10:47] <cemc> i don't thinks so,
[10:47] <soulf> I need help !!!!
[10:47] <frttrrr> welcome soulf
[10:47] <pfp> twosharp: it should be "nvidia", but the restricted-modules... is needed too IIRC
[10:47] <cemc> Homerr: cause when you install a windows on a harddisk,
[10:47] <soulf> no  body gives a damn...
[10:47] <cemc> i think it erases the mbr
[10:47] <cemc> and puts in its boot loader
[10:47] <cfq> Burgundavia: i am defining the source as stated, but it fails. says the driver is unknown
[10:47] <bimberi> !ask
[10:48] <cemc> Homerr: and you're positive the BIOS is set up alright ?
[10:48] <twosharp> pfp: its installed..
[10:48] <setite> cool found a repo for the 64-bit version
[10:48] <cfq> Burgundavia: but the documentation says it can use it. i'll check the version now.
[10:48] <pfp> twosharp: and it matches your kernel version? (uname -r)
[10:48] <pfp> it == package name....
[10:48] <twosharp> pfp: yes
[10:48] <Angelus_2969> how can I change the wireless config in ubuntu NOT to use wep
[10:49] <Angelus_2969> it must be possible :)
[10:49] <twosharp> pfp: its the linux-restricted-modules-386
[10:49] <din> Angelus_2969: the card is more than likely able to use web
[10:49] <din> wep*
[10:49] <din> type iwconfig
[10:49] <din> does wlan0 show up?
[10:49] <syn-ack> Just disable your WEP key in the config
[10:49] <Angelus_2969> din: it can use it
[10:50] <Angelus_2969> but if you look at the compat list of ndiswrapper it says that is can't use encryption
[10:50] <cemc> [23:48:11]  <cemc> Homerr: and you're positive the BIOS is set up alright ?
[10:50] <Homerr> cemc laptop went extremely gay on me
[10:50] <Homerr> yeah
[10:50] <strav> chumpries: ... hum. what could be the best (secure) method, either download de sources and compile them or alien an rpm into a .deb file^
[10:50] <Angelus_2969> so I expected it not to work
[10:50] <pfp> twosharp: that's just a (n empty) metapackage, there should be something like linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[10:50] <Homerr> one of my friends thinks the ide controllers borked
[10:50] <Angelus_2969> din: yes it shows up
[10:50] <disposable_mike> Does anyone have any possible reasons for my computer freezing about every 20 mins under ubuntu?
[10:50] <pfp> twosharp: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:50] <disposable_mike> i've tried turning off acpi, and lacpi, etc., and it hasn't helped much
[10:50] <twosharp> pfp: yes its, both 386-package and the 2.6.10-5-386 packageeverything looks fine, but how can i change the nv to nvidia then, if that will fix it?
[10:50] <chumphries> strav: in my opinion, i trust the sources more than rpms on rpmfind.
[10:50] <cemc> Homerr: if you installed windows alright, i don't know...
[10:51] <pfp> twosharp: ah, of course it is via deps, sorry :)
[10:51] <chumphries> strav: i feel compiling mplayer is the best option
[10:51] <twosharp> pfp: via deps?
[10:51] <Homerr> cemc kinda
[10:51] <pfp> twosharp: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and select nvidia as driver
[10:51] <Homerr> it installs
[10:51] <Homerr> but
[10:51] <Homerr> it wont boot unless the windows setup cd is in the cd drive
[10:51] <Kyral> Okay, I officially love Ubuntu even more
[10:52] <din> Angelus_2969: pm
[10:52] <pfp> twosharp: dependencies, the metapkg depends on the real -2.6.10-blablab package
[10:52] <Kyral> thing detected my printer, all I had to do is go to "New Printer" and hit "Next" a few times
[10:52] <cemc> Homerr: that's why i think there something fishy in the BIOS :)
[10:52] <Homerr> cemc im going to clear it
[10:52] <cemc> what ?
[10:53] <Homerr> im getting rather pissed off here
[10:53] <Homerr> put it into bios reset mode
[10:53] <Homerr> see if it does any goood
[10:53] <topyli> Kyral: isn't that how stuff is always supposed to work? ;-)
[10:53] <cyphase> hey everyone
[10:53] <JBLoudG20> hey all. I just manually installed real player, and now I want to completely remove it? how can I go about htis?
[10:53] <cemc> Homerr: :)
[10:53] <cemc> try
[10:53] <\|\> Hey In #BATTLE  http://battle.lv/modules.php?m=u&call=0000005284 <--- Free Battle Company Site ( Don't Worry its not virus site! )
[10:53] <\|\> Hey In #BATTLE  http://battle.lv/modules.php?m=u&call=0000005284 <--- Free Battle Company Site ( Don't Worry its not virus site! )
[10:53] <Kyral> topyli, In theory :D
[10:53] <strav> chumphries: (I was more specifically looking to install inkscape)... I just aliened an rpm found on their site tough when dpkg it, it seems it can't pass through the setting up process...  I'm kinda new to linux so, I'll inform myself about the details of compiling sources.
[10:53] <\|\> Hey In #BATTLE  http://battle.lv/modules.php?m=u&call=0000005284 <--- Free Battle Company Site ( Don't Worry its not virus site! )
[10:54] <strav> (thanks)
[10:54] <din> Angelus_2969: pm
[10:54] <Burgundavia> strav, just install from synaptic
[10:54] <twosharp> pfp: ok now I've reconfigured xorg, but the Point2Play wizard still fails at testing OpenGL status
[10:54] <koneng> my video playback is choppy/laggy. I've installed the latest ATI drivers for my AIT 9600Pro card. The video/sound is playing so I assume I have the correct codecs properly installed. Any ideas?
[10:54] <Angelus_2969> din: weird, I can see you messages in pm, but you can't see mine I think
[10:55] <pfp> twosharp: you need to log out, zap x (ctrl-alt-backspace), and log back in for it to use the new drivers
[10:55] <chumphries> strav: ya, i don't know about that package, like Burgundavia said, install via packages using synaptic
[10:55] <warty> hola
[10:55] <robotgeek> how come we have so many spam bots here in #ubuntu?
[10:55] <chumphries> makes like easier
[10:55] <twosharp> pfp: ok, thanks for the help =)
[10:55] <cyphase> robotgeek, we don't
[10:55] <din> lol
[10:55] <cyphase> in #ubuntu-unregged maybe
[10:55] <majikstreet> eix
[10:55] <majikstreet> exit
[10:56] <chumphries> heh
[10:56] <Angelus_2969> din: i will switch to another IRC client
[10:56] <robotgeek> yeah, sorry...that what i meant.
[10:56] <warty> sabes ablar espanol
[10:56] <din> ok
[10:56] <Baskerville> warty: Espanhol? E Portugus?
[10:56] <cyphase> robotgeek, because a lot of people pss through it
[10:56] <cyphase> pass*
[10:56] <Gnonthgol> warty: #ubuntu-es
[10:56] <cemc> aurax: here?
[10:56] <emile> i have a ntfs formatted usb disk, when plugged in i can only read files, not delete or write how can i change this?
[10:57] <JBLoudG20> any real player uninstall help?
[10:57] <warty> como te llamas
[10:57] <angelus_1969> join #ubuntu
[10:57] <yaul> warty: me llamo frank
[10:57] <din> heh
[10:57] <kemik> emile:  linux doesnt handle writing to NTFS very well
[10:57] <robotgeek> cyphase: my only experience with irc has been #ubuntu, so i am new to irc as such :)
[10:57] <cyphase> lol
[10:57] <kemik> emile:  perhaps format it as FAT or ext?
[10:57] <din> ahhh
[10:57] <din> i know what it is
[10:57] <din> i'm mode +E
[10:58] <din> one sec
[10:58] <emile> kemik: i'm willing to take some risk, i have to delete some files which are on it
[10:58] <bimberi> robotgeek: you too :)
[10:58] <Uthini> emile: by default NTFS partitions are loaded as read only, only way is to reformat, trust me on this, i lost data because i tried to be clever
[10:58] <Viziri> i've got a strange problem. Finally got citrix ICAClient working but for me to keep root-terminal open as long as i use the program. Is this unusual?
[10:58] <twosharp> pfp: now its wotking :D thanks alot =)
[10:58] <pfp> twosharp: nice :)
[10:58] <fowerd> hey all
[10:58] <robotgeek> bimberi: i am ubotu's cousin, i am ok here!
[10:58] <Viziri> but requires**
[10:58] <din> angelus_1969: hey, pm pm pm pm :p
[10:58] <cemc> emile: it may break things
[10:58] <yaul> problem - i was trying to use pydance and i installed the package but when i run it it gives me a "mixer system not initialized" error and refers to some lines in the python source. any idea whats wrong?
[10:58] <bimberi> robotgeek: haha
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: run program gksudu <program>
[10:59] <emile> well if my only other option is reformating ... then data is lost anyway ;-)
[10:59] <Viziri> ok
[10:59] <pfp> twosharp: btw, you might want to install a kernel optimized for your cpu, package linux-k7 or linux-686 (for amd and intel respectively)
[10:59] <fowerd> could some one tell me how I can port forward port 80 to another machine but for ssh
[10:59] <kemik> emile:  there is some way you can write to NTFS, but i think it's not worth the hassle
[10:59] <bimberi> Geez there's a lot of joining and quickly leaving going on. Spammers?
[10:59] <fowerd> with just scripts and stuff
[11:00] <fowerd> i don't have fire starter
[11:00] <fowerd> just a comand line
[11:00] <Nylira> hi
[11:00] <cemc> fowerd: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination ip:22
[11:00] <cemc> something like this
[11:00] <Nylira> I have a question with regards to mounting vfat volumes
[11:00] <kemik> !tell Nylira about ntfs
[11:01] <Nylira> bleh
[11:01] <fowerd> cemc: thanks
[11:01] <Nylira> not ntfs
[11:01] <kemik> Nylira:  read all of it ?
[11:01] <robotgeek> bimberi: i guess that was what I was asking about, but din't ask properly!
[11:01] <emile> !tell emile about ntfs
[11:01] <cemc> fowerd: add a "-s <machines_ip>" too
[11:01] <Nylira> Look I can get it mounted just peachy
[11:01] <Viziri> didn't work Gnonthgol  -tells me command not found
[11:01] <Gnonthgol> !tell Nylira about vfat
[11:01] <kemik> Nylira:  ok, so ask your entire question then ;)
[11:01] <cemc> fowerd: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d ip_addr -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination ip_addr2:22
[11:01] <cemc> -d sorry
[11:02] <koneng> I have choppy/laggy video playback. After installing the latest video card drivers (for my ATI 9600 Pro), what should be my next step to resolve this issue?
[11:02] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: with the run application stuff
[11:02] <kemik> !tell kemik about vfat
[11:02] <Nylira> ok well having this problem at a friend of mine
[11:02] <Nylira> basically I made the mount dir and made sure the ownership is right
[11:02] <Viziri> ? @ Gnonthgol
[11:02] <Nylira> Then I mount the device .. so far so good
[11:02] <Arsonide> so many screensavers...
[11:02] <Nylira> The second I try to copy to it the ownership on the mount dir alters to root:root
[11:03] <bimberi> robotgeek: ooh, so you did, i missed that.  I think it must be spam related
[11:03] <cemc> Homerr: any luck ?
[11:03] <fowerd> cemc: u mean -s is acutally -d ?
[11:03] <LinuxJones> koneng, dma is probably turned off on your hard drive which results in crappy playback of video or high quality audio
[11:03] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: Applications > Run Applications > gksudo [command]
[11:03] <bedi> is breezy X broken ?
[11:03] <kemik> Nylira:  that doesnt sound right.. are you root while copying ?
[11:03] <Nylira> no
[11:03] <kemik> bedi:  breezy isnt stable so ... who knows? ;)
[11:03] <koneng> linuxJones: how can I turn DMA on?
[11:03] <cemc> fowerd: yep, -d the_machine's_ip
[11:04] <bedi> ehe
[11:04] <bedi> kemik: it will be stable september ia ? =D
[11:04] <robotgeek> bimberi: yesterday, i got booted to ubuntu-regged , (cause my id was locked up here)..spammed like crazy!
[11:04] <pfp> Nylira: chown'ing a mount point _before_ mounting stuff on it has no effect, the mount point inherits the mounted filesystem's root's owner
[11:04] <cemc> fowerd: tell me something. is this machine a gateway for some local net, and you want to reach a port on a machine behind this gateway?
[11:04] <fowerd> cemc: in your example is the destination for port 80 changed to port 22?
[11:04] <cemc> fowerd: or something like that ?
[11:04] <Nylira> yes well the thing is when its mounted the owner is correct
[11:05] <Viziri> Apllications> good, but 'Run applications'? - i'm lost
[11:05] <Nylira> Just that when I start copying it will hit me for operation not permitted
[11:05] <harobed> hi, I search information about uml (user-mode-linux) on ubuntu. Where can I found howto ... ? I search it on ubuntu wiki, google... I found nothing.
[11:05] <Nylira> and then when checking the ownership changes
[11:05] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: the botum one
[11:05] <fowerd> cemc: yeah well
[11:05] <pfp> Nylira: hmm. it's a VFAT disk?
[11:05] <Nylira> yes
[11:05] <Nylira> fat32
[11:06] <Viziri> Gnonthgol: "the botum one"  ???
[11:06] <fowerd> cemc: the router linux box thing is forwarding port 80 to machine a
[11:06] <emile> hmm so mounting ntfs rw would require kernel recompiling
[11:06] <LinuxJones> koneng, sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdx (with 'x' being your hard disk drive)
[11:06] <fowerd> machine a is an ubuntu box
[11:06] <Belutz> what's the bad thing about xmms?
[11:06] <emile> and _is_ experimental
[11:06] <emile> maybe better reformating ;-)
[11:06] <koneng> LinuxJones, i'll try that. Thanks
[11:06] <pfp> Nylira: they dont understand owners / unix permissions, so you have to specify them at mount time with uid, gid etc. options
[11:06] <cemc> fowerd: machine A has a real ip, or some false ip ?
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> Viziri:  what version are you using?
[11:07] <Viziri> hoary 5.04
[11:07] <synd> is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[11:07] <pfp> Nylira: "man mount", search for options for fat. OTOH, there's an automagic script to mount vfat volumes...
[11:07] <fowerd> cemc: if u mean a local ip like 192... then yeah
[11:07] <pfp> !vfat
[11:07] <ubotu> vfat is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[11:07] <pfp> Nylira: ^
[11:07] <cemc> fowerd: then it's like this:
[11:08] <puff> Afternoon.
[11:08] <synd> ?
[11:08] <nitin> guys, i setup my ubuntu as  a server and used webmin / virtualmin to create a virtual server for test.com as a domain name and i used the hosts file on windows to forward test.com to the servers ip, but the domain name doesnt get forewarded to its directory ...
[11:08] <cemc> fowerd: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d router_real_ip -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.x.y:22
[11:08] <pfp> Nylira: hopefully that made any sense :)
[11:08] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: Applications > Run something
[11:08] <fowerd> but i want machine a to foward to another machine behind the nat
[11:08] <cemc> fowerd: this will forward any packet addressed to the linux box coming in on port 80 to machine A to port 22
[11:08] <fowerd> machine b
[11:08] <Viziri> nevermind Gnonthgol ....
[11:08] <synd> is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[11:09] <ivoks> synd: no
[11:09] <yaul> wasnt breezy doing a gcc transition or osmething right now?
[11:09] <synd> ivoks: any idea how long til?
[11:09] <Entity_razer> HI all
[11:09] <cemc> fowerd: you lost me there :)
[11:09] <Entity_razer> anyone know how I can get the SDL driver installed? :s
[11:09] <ivoks> synd: in october it will be ready
[11:09] <Gnonthgol> !breezy
[11:09] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[11:09] <Entity_razer> its supposed to be in usr/lib/priv/.......
[11:09] <Entity_razer> but it isn't there
[11:09] <cemc> fowerd: you have machine A, which is the router, who does the NAT, right ?
[11:10] <synd> ivoks: i know that.
[11:10] <pfp> Nylira: correct (on the channel, please :)
[11:10] <fowerd> cemc: ok ill say this all a once
[11:10] <cemc> fowerd: ok
[11:11] <puff> Gnonthgol: I found the pci module for my wireless card via the "pcimodules" command.  Did "modprobe ipw2200" to try to get it loaded.
[11:11] <pfp> Nylira: uid=username,gid=group -- also might want to use fmask= to remove x-permission from regular files
[11:11] <puff> Gnonthgol: Now... now what?
[11:11] <Gnonthgol> synd: If you are just playing around with ubuntu you could update, but if this is a serious no
[11:11] <nitin> guys, i setup my ubuntu as  a server and used webmin / virtualmin to create a virtual server for test.com as a domain name and i used the hosts file on windows to forward test.com to the servers ip, but the domain name doesnt get forewarded to its directory ...
[11:11] <fowerd> cemc: can i pm you?
[11:11] <koneng> LinuxJones, do i have to reboot for the DMA change to work?
[11:11] <Nylira> Hhmm I got  iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[11:11] <cemc> fowerd: sure
[11:11] <synd> Gnonthgol: but its not stable enough to use everyday?
[11:12] <synd> i remember using Hoary successfully for a while before it was officially release.
[11:12] <Gnonthgol> synd: take caution
[11:12] <synd> released*
[11:12] <pfp> Nylira: sound sane
[11:12] <pfp> sounds
[11:12] <Nylira> heh
[11:12] <fowerd> cemc; could you pm me i cant for some reason?
[11:12] <Gnonthgol> puff: does it show up in ifconfig?
[11:13] <Entity_razer> No one know how I can get the SDL_driver installed?
[11:13] <cemc> fowerd: now ?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> koneng, no if you re-boot your settings will be lost. Try watching a movie or whatever it should be much better
[11:13] <Burgundavia> Entity_razer, what do you need it for?
[11:13] <Entity_razer> I am trying to run wings
[11:13] <Entity_razer> but everytime I start it it says it cannot find the SDL_driver
[11:13] <theine> Entity_razer, what errors do you get?
[11:13] <Entity_razer> so I cannot open wings
[11:14] <Entity_razer> I'll post the error from the terminal window hold on
[11:14] <Burgundavia> Entity_razer, just install wings3d. It will pull in any deps
[11:14] <Entity_razer> I did that already
[11:14] <puff> Gnonthgol: not sure, but i think no.
[11:14] <Entity_razer> didn't work :s
[11:14] <ttyS0> Entity_razer, try looking through libsdl packages in synaptic
[11:14] <Zhukov> hi there
[11:14] <PlutoPrime> hi
[11:15] <Gnonthgol> puff: then you use iwconfig
[11:15] <yaul> i'm having problems with pygame sound and i read that i should try to use OSS instead of ESD, or i should specify i'm using esd in the environemnt variable, but i'm not sure how to do either. help?
[11:15] <puff> Gnonthgol: Before, it was showing up as eth1 (the wire was eth0).  Then it wasn't showing up at all, that I could tell.  I did modprobe ipw2200.  It still doesn't show up for ifconfig.
[11:15] <Entity_razer> ok thx mods :) I'll check into tit
[11:15] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:15] <Entity_razer> it*
[11:15] <Entity_razer> if it doesn't work i'm sure you'll see me again :)
[11:15] <koneng> LinuxJones, no, i'm having the same problem. I should have mentioned this earlier, but this HD is on the same IDE cable as my DVD-RW drive (but the drive is empty). From what i was told, i would only suffer slow downs if I had a CD/DVD in the drive at the same time. Do you think this could be the problem?
[11:15] <theine> puff, have you looked at the dmesg output?
[11:16] <puff> Gnonthgol: and iwconfig shows lo, sit0, eth0, lists all of them with "no wireless extensions"
[11:16] <confrey> I need a help for perl : how can I verify if an argument is an integer?
[11:16] <PlutoPrime> how do I prevent a module from starting automatically?
[11:16] <Gnonthgol> puff: you seams to miss the drivers
[11:16] <theine> PlutoPrime, you can try /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:16] <yaul> confrey: [0-9] + ?
[11:17] <PlutoPrime> theine, thanks .. that's what I was trying to remember
[11:17] <LinuxJones> koneng, no that should not be a problem. Put a disk in the drive and type mount to make sure you have the dma settings on the correct drive.
[11:17] <confrey> yaul, yes, and more... example : 25, 456, etc.
[11:17] <theine> puff, dmesg is usually pretty helpful for resolvinf issues like this...
[11:18] <emile> i love ubuntu i just removed the ntfs partion using gparted and resized existing w32 partion to use freed drivespace
[11:18] <spiderworm> emile: wow, that's love alright
[11:18] <cemc> fowerd: anything?
[11:19] <puff> theine: I don't see anything obvious in dmesg.
[11:19] <confrey> yaul, can you suggest me?
[11:20] <iamnow> hi
[11:20] <Entity_razer> sorry mods, the SDL driver still doesn't get installed :s
[11:20] <iamnow> what cd burning software should i use for installing an iso in this distro
[11:20] <Gnonthgol> puff: are you sure you got the right drivers?
[11:20] <Entity_razer> can't I just copy someones sdl_driver.so to my folder?
[11:20] <qt2> would someone tell me if this sources.list looks fine?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1728
[11:20] <puff> Gnonthgol: Any suggestions as to how I'd figure that out?
[11:20] <theine> puff, so what does `dmesg | grep ipw' actually give you?
[11:20] <puff> theine: Nada.
[11:21] <robotgeek> iamnow: are u on windows. if so any iso burning software should be fine, just burn at low speeds
[11:21] <theine> puff, not even after you did `modprobe ipw2200'?
[11:21] <koneng> LinuxJones, it's possible that I typed in the wrong drive before. /dev/hdc1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) <-- this should be this HD (it was the only one that has ext3 filesystem)
[11:21] <fowerd> cemc: hey did you get the big long pm i sent you or did it not come thru?
[11:21] <puff> Gnonthgol: I googled ipw2200 and it came up with http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//ipw2200.sourceforge.net/&ei=ynkTQ_uXHJ3i-AHqyK25Cg as the first hit.
[11:21] <iamnow> robotgeek: no im in ubuntu burning an iso
[11:21] <puff> theine: correct.
[11:21] <cemc> fowerd: nope,
[11:21] <cemc> fowerd: i didn't get anyithing
[11:21] <theine> puff, does `modprobe -v ipw2200' say anything?
[11:22] <Entity_razer> TTYS0, still no go :s
[11:22] <Entity_razer> reinstalled the entire thing
[11:22] <Entity_razer> no go still
[11:22] <Entity_razer> can't I just copy someones sdl_driver.so to my directory?
[11:22] <LinuxJones> koneng, you don't specify the partition jsut the drive like /dev/hdc (it will tell you that dma has been turned on once you issue the command)
[11:22] <NoUse> qt2 looks ok to me
[11:22] <theine> Entity_razer, so what's the exact error message you're getting?
[11:23] <puff> http://pastebin.com/349529
[11:23] <fowerd> cemc:ill paste it here
[11:23] <cemc> koneng: or if you just hdparm /dev/hdc, it should show you the current settings
[11:23] <iamnow> is xcdroast good ?
[11:23] <cemc> fowerd: ok
[11:23] <Entity_razer> hold on
[11:23] <fowerd> cemc: fowerd a is not the man router
[11:23] <puff> theine: modprobe -v ipw2200 --> nada
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd  / nat thing
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd i am an a difernt house
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd and can conect to  reall IP R on the main router of the remote household
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd so main router is R
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd router R port forwards port 80 to machine a
[11:23] <robotgeek> fowerd: use the pastebin!
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd on its port 80
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd i want to make machine a forward port 80 again to another local machine machine b
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd (a and be a local ips machine R is internet ip)
[11:23] <fowerd> fowerd cemc: you there?
[11:23] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:23] <LinuxJones> fowerd, :(
[11:23] <Entity_razer> it's to big to post it here so I'll just paste the wings_cras.dump to the paste?
[11:23] <GenesisX> Hi
[11:24] <cemc> fowerd: oops... i didn't think it's that big :/
[11:24] <NoUse> iamnow not really
[11:24] <GenesisX> I installed ubuntu just now and it says the root account was disabled. so now, I don't know how to change my root pw
[11:24] <ttyS0> Entity_razer, what application requires that driver?
[11:24] <bratsche> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to detect when USB storage devices are plugged in and automatically mount them?
[11:24] <theine> puff, very strange
[11:24] <robotgeek> iamnow: k3b is very nice on linux
[11:24] <houcine> bonsoir
[11:24] <iamnow> is k3b in the distro?
[11:24] <LinuxJones> GenesisX, Ubuntu uses sudo
[11:24] <robotgeek> bratsche: it does it automagically, to /media/<label>
[11:24] <bratsche> Wait, nevermind.  It did automount, it just didn't show up in Nautilus.
[11:24] <NoUse> iamnow yes
[11:24] <Gnonthgol> Why not create a chanel like #ubuntu-paste
[11:25] <theine> Entity_razer, or use pastebin.com
[11:25] <Entity_razer> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1729
[11:25] <narg> gah, anyone gotten webmin working?
[11:25] <Entity_razer> there you go
[11:25] <narg> Mine is being stupid.
[11:25] <theine> thanks
[11:25] <GenesisX> LinuxJones I know, I tried doing passwd root but it didnt' work
[11:25] <Entity_razer> I know it's the SDL driver thats missing because it's not where it should be
[11:25] <GenesisX> and+
[11:25] <qt2> NoUse, thanks ;)
[11:25] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: yeah, it does exist. but, http is more convenient
[11:25] <Entity_razer> but the problem is installing/getting the driver then :)
[11:26] <puff> Hm, apt-cache search ipw2200 --> nothing.
[11:26] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: or atleast it existed before :)
[11:26] <LinuxJones> GenesisX, you use your password (if you installed Ubuntu) liek sudo synaptic (enter your user password)
[11:26] <NoUse> !root
[11:26] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:26] <Entity_razer> TTY it's Wings3D
[11:26] <NoUse> !sudo
[11:26] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:26] <cemc> fowerd: hm... i don't know if you can do that so easily...
[11:26] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: I am the only one in there now
[11:26] <robotgeek> fowerd: it's allright, we won't hit you or anything!
[11:26] <LinuxJones> GenesisX, you don't need to enable the root account
[11:26] <robotgeek> !lart fowerd
[11:27] <robotgeek> but ubotu will!
[11:27] <cemc> :)
[11:27] <Gnonthgol> lol
[11:27] <GenesisX> yeah I do, I have to get on it to intall gnome-ppp
[11:27] <koneng> LinuxJones, I got it right this time. I checked using 'sudo hdparm /dev/hdc' and it was turned on. I'm still having the same problem
[11:27] <GenesisX> so I type sudo root <pw here>
[11:27] <koneng> i took the CD out first too
[11:27] <GenesisX> or what
[11:27] <NoUse> !tell GenesisX about sudo
[11:27] <fowerd> lol
[11:27] <robotgeek> :)
[11:27] <GenesisX> ok
[11:27] <cemc> koneng: what problem do you have?
[11:27] <Entity_razer> TTY, Theine? any word yet? :)
[11:27] <theine> Entity_razer, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27658.html
[11:28] <fowerd> cemc: why not wont it just work?
[11:28] <ttyS0> Entity_razer, sorry, but I have no idea
[11:28] <cemc> fowerd: why not forward a port direct to b ?
[11:28] <Entity_razer> lol
[11:28] <Baskerville> Having problems with sound card?
[11:28] <GenesisX> brb reading that
[11:28] <Entity_razer> np :p
[11:28] <cemc> fowerd: on R
[11:28] <Entity_razer> thx theine
[11:28] <Baskerville> Can someone help?
[11:28] <Baskerville> Having problems with sound card?
[11:28] <Baskerville> Having problems with sound card?
[11:28] <Gnonthgol> GenesisX: you wil be asked for psw.
[11:28] <Baskerville> Having problems with sound card?
[11:28] <Baskerville> Having problems with sound card
[11:28] <koneng> cemc, linuxjones: sorry, i lost track of time. i have to run to work. i'll come back later. thanks for your help so far
[11:28] <Baskerville> Can someone help?
[11:28] <robotgeek> Baskerville: asking many times in a row does not ensure that people will help you
[11:28] <Gnonthgol> Baskerville: mine too
[11:28] <Baskerville> ;o)
[11:28] <fowerd> cemc, cant access R's routing stuff right now
[11:28] <theine> Entity_razer, you're welcome
[11:28] <NoUse> Baskerville have you run through the sound page on the wiki?
[11:28] <Gnonthgol> Baskerville: What is the prob
[11:29] <Baskerville> yes
[11:29] <Baskerville> I have done it all...
[11:29] <NoUse> Baskerville ok whats the problem?
[11:29] <fowerd> cemc: cant acces R's routing stuff right now
[11:29] <Baskerville> But when I rebooted, still with no sound
[11:29] <cemc> fowerd: you could try...,
[11:29] <Baskerville> NoUse: Sometimes with sound, sometimes without
[11:29] <cemc> fowerd: but i'm not sure it will work
[11:30] <fowerd> cemc why can i not just past port 80 on some more for a to b?
[11:30] <cemc> fowerd: because the packet as it past through R, is rewritten,
[11:30] <cemc> fowerd: destination to machine A's ip,
[11:31] <lineage> hey guys, i have aMule turned off and my firewall (Firestarter) shows that i have eDonkeys connections on my computer...what is wrong with that ?
[11:31] <cemc> fowerd: if you forward it to B, you have to rewrite destination ip to machine B's ip,
[11:31] <Entity_razer> THeINe
[11:31] <NoUse> Baskerville could you be more specific?
[11:31] <Entity_razer> it appears I don't have write rights to the mape priv in the erlang folder
[11:31] <Entity_razer> any way to bypass it? :)
[11:31] <cemc> fowerd: but if B wants to reply, it will send the packet directly to R,
[11:31] <Entity_razer> use the root terminal?
[11:31] <fowerd> cemc: won't A do that while its forwarding?
[11:31] <Baskerville> When I turn on my computer
[11:31] <fowerd> ahhhhhhhhh
[11:31] <Baskerville> it plays sounds
[11:32] <fowerd> ceme: now you got me
[11:32] <Baskerville> but others, it doesn't
[11:32] <lineage> hey guys, i have aMule turned off and my firewall (Firestarter) shows that i have eDonkeys connections on my computer...what is wrong with that ??
[11:32] <Baskerville> My kmix tells me that there is no device,
[11:32] <cemc> fowerd: R will not know what to do with the packet...
[11:32] <ryguy1233> hi
[11:32] <Baskerville> and that I shoud execute esd in a console
[11:32] <Baskerville> I did it, and still nothing
[11:32] <cemc> fowerd: cause it came from B, and not from A
[11:32] <fowerd> cemc: could you go.....
[11:32] <cemc> fowerd: but you could try
[11:32] <ryguy1233> i was looking to get rid of the grub loader becuase i uninstalled ubuntu and cannot load windows now
[11:33] <fowerd> cemc: R > A > B > A > R
[11:33] <NoUse> ryguy1233 if you run windows repair it will fix that
[11:33] <ryguy1233> a windows98 bootdisk?
[11:33] <pfp> lineage: nothing, the network just remembers your ip for some time
[11:33] <NoUse> Baskerville so you are running KDE?
[11:33] <Gnonthgol> ! tell ryguy1233 about grub
[11:33] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: Are you on ritalin?
[11:34] <fowerd> cemc: like set up forwards on posiblely diferents ports in the other direction
[11:34] <lineage> thanks pfp
[11:34] <ryguy1233> i tried windows98 boot disk from bootdisk.com
[11:34] <cemc> fowerd: uhh...
[11:34] <Baskerville> NoUse: Yes
[11:34] <NoUse> ryguy1233 what version of windows do you run?
[11:34] <cemc> fowerd: i don't know, i guess you have to try it,
[11:34] <ryguy1233> but i got the error invalid system disk
[11:34] <cemc> fowerd: and see if it works
[11:34] <ryguy1233> win xp
[11:34] <ryguy1233> media center edition
[11:34] <NoUse> ryguy1233 then why are you using a win98 bootdisk?
[11:34] <Toba> is there a reason some apps have working sound and some don't?
[11:34] <fowerd> cemc: lol well what were you going to say before?
[11:34] <cemc> fowerd: you know tcpdump ?
[11:34] <Toba> the system sounds work
[11:34] <Toba> but media players don't make sound
[11:34] <ryguy1233> it was recommended to me... just to use fdisk/mbr tho
[11:35] <fowerd> cemc: only heard the name
[11:35] <NoUse> ryguy1233 boot of the XP disk, you'll see a repair option
[11:35] <cemc> fowerd: now is a good time to man tcpdump then :)
[11:35] <ryguy1233> and thatll just fix my mbr?
[11:35] <NoUse> ryguy1233 yes
[11:35] <shinu> is there any alternative to k3b?
[11:35] <cemc> fowerd: take my iptables example and modify stuff, and try it out, honestly i don't know if it works that way,
[11:35] <ryguy1233> can i just get that at bootdisk.com?
[11:35] <cemc> fowerd: i'll have to try...
[11:35] <Uthini> !paste
[11:35] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:36] <NoUse> ryguy1233 no your WinXP CD
[11:36] <Baskerville> NoUse: If  you acess my pc remotely, can you fix this?
[11:36] <fowerd> cemc: cool hehe
[11:36] <fowerd> i'll try to
[11:36] <NoUse> Baskerville I don't have enough information
[11:36] <ryguy1233> hmm... let me see if i even got one of those
[11:36] <fowerd> cemc i have to go to work now though
[11:36] <thrush> active directory just locked 6000 people out of their account =(
[11:36] <cemc> fowerd: and i have to go to bed :)
[11:36] <Homerrr> thrush OWCH
[11:36] <Baskerville> I have a ATI AC'97 sound driver
[11:36] <Homerrr> thats going to be fun to fix
[11:36] <Uthini> guys, is there a fstab repair for linux drivers?
[11:36] <Uthini> drives*
[11:37] <cemc> fowerd: 0:40am here :)
[11:37] <Baskerville> NoUse: If  you acess my pc remotely, can you fix this?
[11:37] <Jazy84> hey guys i need some help
[11:37] <fowerd> cemc: can you  givie me some tcpdum examples ?
[11:37] <fowerd> cemc: oh man
[11:37] <cemc> fowerd: tcpdump -n host <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:37] <cemc> fowerd: man tcpdump
[11:37] <fowerd> 9 40 here
[11:37] <cemc> fowerd: you have to be root
[11:37] <Jazy84> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1731 i posted there. i get some error on locales
[11:37] <qt2> Jazy84, ask.
[11:37] <robotgeek> Jazy84: don't ask to ask, just ask your question!
[11:37] <Gnonthgol> ryguy1233: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_zldj.asp
[11:38] <robotgeek> Jazy84: :)
[11:38] <fowerd> cemc: I'm to handy caped to read man's thats why i come here :P
[11:38] <din> where is the local start file on ubuntu?
[11:38] <Uthini> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1730 <---- apt is giving me uphill
[11:38] <din> to start programs at boot
[11:38] <Uthini> run th updates, and blah blahj
[11:38] <Jazy84> i tried to apt-get install language-pack-en-base. but get get an error.
[11:38] <cemc> fowerd: don't be :) this is just a last resort help thing ;) i guess ;)
[11:39] <cemc> fowerd: first you read manuals, then you read some more, then google, then you try a little more, and after 2 days you come here ;)
[11:39] <twibbler> only two days cemc
[11:39] <Arsonide> Hey you guys know how I can make middle mouse (scroll wheel) "click" work while browsing web pages? I use that a lot...
[11:39] <cemc> fowerd: that way you will remember it next time you have the same problem ;)
[11:40] <Gnonthgol> din: use the app. Sessions
[11:40] <pfp> Arsonide: what do you expect the button to do?
[11:40] <din> um that only does it for gnome
[11:40] <Gnonthgol> Jazy84: what problem?
[11:41] <Arsonide> It brings up that little bubble thing, with the arrows, and you move the mouse to scroll, instead of using the wheel.
[11:41] <cemc> twibbler: well :) after 2 days of trying
[11:41] <fowerd> cemc: I spose i'm getting to the stage where i can "leave the nest"  and do that
[11:41] <fowerd> :P
[11:41] <Jazy84> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1731 --> get that problem after installing anything
[11:41] <Jazy84> about the locales
[11:41] <kelly_> sdf
[11:41] <cemc> fowerd: :)
[11:41] <kelly_> hello..
[11:41] <fowerd> cemc: ok I will endever
[11:41] <cemc> i'll be here tomorrow too,
[11:41] <lineage> any mmorpg open source ?
[11:42] <kelly_> i have installed successfully ubuntu in my laptop...wall hardward was detected...
[11:42] <cemc> fowerd: then i'll try this forwarding too
[11:42] <kelly_> yehey!\
[11:42] <fowerd> cemc: I'm to adicted to bugging people for fast solutions i spose :P
[11:42] <pfp> Arsonide: oh. i always hated that :)
[11:42] <narg> what was the bash dot file that ran commands at shell login again?
[11:42] <kelly_> i have installed successfully ubuntu in my laptop...wall hardward was detected... and it runs faster than xp home..
[11:42] <Arsonide> pfp, how do I get it to do it?
[11:42] <tag> why does it seem like java in ubuntu isn't so sweet?
[11:42] <fowerd> cemc: cool man I see if i can find you another day
[11:42] <Gnonthgol> Jazy84: Normaly you ignore the locale, does it prevent you from doing something?
[11:42] <cemc> fowerd: you should try it yourself... you're better off that way
[11:42] <fowerd> yeah i will
[11:42] <pfp> Arsonide: some "smooth scrolling" setting in firefox i think
[11:43] <fowerd> have to got to work in 15 mins :s
[11:43] <Jazy84> no. just always see the error message, and was wondering what it could be.
[11:43] <puff> Okay, so I think (based on advice from an ipw2200 user in ##linux) that the problem is that I upgraded my kernel.
[11:43] <cemc> fowerd: ok, bye
[11:43] <Jazy84> haven't ran into anything that wouldn't 'work' because of it.
[11:43] <puff> Unfortunately, he's not an ubuntu user.
[11:43] <puff> so he's not sure where to find the ipw2200 driver, to reinstall it.
[11:43] <fowerd> cemc: see you and THANKS for all your help! :)
[11:43] <cemc> puff: you compiled the driver yourself,
[11:43] <cemc> puff: from source ?
[11:44] <cemc> fowerd: np
[11:44] <puff> cemc: no, I used the ubuntu kernel upgrade process.
[11:44] <puff> On second thought, i can see ipw2200 in lsmod. Hm.
[11:44] <Gnonthgol> Jazy84: The problem is probably caused by the LOCALE setting in the envirement, nothing to wory about
[11:44] <Jazy84> excellent good to know :) thanks Gnonthgol
[11:45] <Arsonide> pfp, Know a list of games that work with Linux?
[11:45] <cemc> puff: what kernel you have now?
[11:45] <Jazy84> on more thing i was wondering. Could i prevent my iBook from going to bed on closing the lid. Right now it does but the problem is when it tries to get back from hibernation (i'm guessing) it hangs when bringing back up the wifi.
[11:45] <mrproper> Is it safe to upgrade to Breezy from Horay yet?
[11:45] <pfp> Arsonide: heh, i don't play, except tetris and supa mario :)
[11:45] <HiddenWolf> Arsonide, there is a forum on ubuntuforums.org specifically about gaming
[11:46] <pfp> Arsonide: there was a list on the on the forums though
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> mrproper, you'll have to expect some trouble still. Shouldn't be major tho.
[11:46] <mrproper> HiddenWolf, Did they get the whole issue with X fixed?
[11:46] <bobbyd> hi, what's the util called that lets me install from source but have the app regisered as a .deb?
[11:46] <Jazy84> pfp how you playing mario emu?
[11:46] <HiddenWolf> mrproper, Mostly
[11:47] <Jazy84> dkpg?
[11:47] <mrproper> HiddenWolf, When is Breezy due out?
[11:47] <cemc> hm, gotta go
[11:47] <cemc> bye
[11:47] <Jazy84> have a good one
[11:47] <bobbyd> Jazy84, I mean an abitrary application that I compile
[11:47] <HiddenWolf> mrproper, early october, with a preview in less than a month.
[11:47] <Gnonthgol> !dpkg
[11:47] <Nylira> god I hate fat32 drives
[11:47] <ubotu> somebody said dpkg was the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[11:47] <pfp> Jazy84: yeah, fceu
[11:47] <mrproper> HiddenWolf, I may wait for the preview, since that'll allow an easier upgrade I assume.
[11:47] <puff> cemc: Linux version 2.6.10-5-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 2005
[11:48] <Jazy84> nice, need to try that out.
[11:48] <Nylira> hey pfp
[11:48] <GenesisX> HI again
[11:48] <Nylira> i tried adding the uid and gid for mounting
[11:48] <apokryphos> mrproper: not easier, since it's the same process, but perhaps smoother, yes. Breezy is getting stabler constantly
[11:48] <GenesisX> i got my root pw thing fgured out
[11:48] <GenesisX> now I have another problem
[11:48] <pfp> Nylira: did it work?
[11:49] <Gnonthgol> GenesisX: ok
[11:49] <Nylira> nope
[11:49] <GenesisX> I tried doing 'apt-get install gnome-ppp' and it said the package was missing
[11:49] <GenesisX> :(
[11:49] <GenesisX> it said "cannot find package"
[11:49] <|Imp|> is breezy stable yet?
[11:49] <Nylira> uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[11:50] <Gnonthgol> ! tell |Imp| about breezy
[11:50] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: Are you on ritalin?
[11:50] <pfp> Nylira: so if you do "ls -l /mount/point/name" , are they still wned by root?
[11:50] <pfp> *owned, heh
[11:50] <|Imp|> Gnonthgol, nice....
[11:50] <apokryphos> |Imp|: reasonably
[11:50] <GenesisX> so is there any other way to install gnome-ppp?
[11:50] <ttyS0> GenesisX, update your repos
[11:50] <GenesisX> repos?
[11:51] <ttyS0> repositories
[11:51] <GenesisX> ah
[11:51] <NoUse> !info gnome-ppp
[11:51] <ubotu> gnome-ppp: (a modem internet connection tool for GNOME), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.17-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 76 kB, Installed size: 572 kB
[11:51] <GenesisX> someone told me to do that before
[11:51] <Nylira> Jup
[11:51] <Nylira> still on root:root
[11:51] <Gnonthgol> ! repositories
[11:51] <ubotu> I heard repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:51] <GenesisX> do I need to connect to the internet from ubuntu to do that?
[11:51] <Gnonthgol> GenesisX: yes
[11:51] <ttyS0> GenesisX, aha
[11:51] <GenesisX> then I'm screwed
[11:51] <GenesisX> cause I only have 56 k
[11:51] <GenesisX> dialup
[11:52] <superSizeMe> #ubuntu-fr
[11:52] <tdn_> I have just switched to Ubuntu. Then I read at UbuntuForums.org (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9836&highlight=ethereal), that I can get ethrereal and ethreape for Ubuntu. But apt-cache search ethreal gives nothing. I am also missing my Eterm. Where do I get these apps?
[11:52] <Nylira> I cant the damn thing mounted apparently that it will allow me to write to it as the regular user
[11:52] <NoUse> GenesisX its 76k, not that big
[11:52] <ttyS0> GenesisX, mine is 19 k dial-up but I'm here
[11:52] <pfp> Nylira: did you umount it first, then mount with those options?
[11:52] <Nylira> yes
[11:52] <Madpilot> tdn_: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos enabled?
[11:52] <Gnonthgol> GenesisX: but if you download the package on another computer
[11:52] <Nylira> umount
[11:52] <GenesisX> how do I dial up my isp without gnome-ppp
[11:52] <pfp> Nylira: hmmh.
[11:52] <Nylira> added options to fstab even
[11:52] <Nylira> mount -a
[11:52] <Burgundavia> tdn_, you need to add universe. wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:52] <ttyS0> GenesisX, wvdial
[11:52] <Nylira> also tried manual mount
[11:52] <Nylira> same effect
[11:52] <superSizeMe> #ubuntu/fr
[11:52] <GenesisX> ok
[11:53] <GenesisX> I"ll try vwdial
[11:53] <ttyS0> !wvdial
[11:53] <ubotu> ttyS0: I give up, what is it?
[11:53] <NoUse> GenesisX it might on the installation media, I'm not sure but its worth a look
[11:53] <GenesisX> brb
[11:53] <pfp> Nylira: if you type just 'mount', does it show uid=... etc in parentheses?
[11:53] <tdn_> maddler, No.
[11:53] <tdn_> Bubblefly, Thanks.
[11:54] <theine> GenesisX, you might want to run `sudo pppconfig' before trying out wvdial
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> theine: to late
[11:55] <theine> too bad
[11:55] <Nylira> hmm interesting
[11:55] <superSizeMe> #join ubuntu-fr
[11:55] <Nylira> It has now mounted to a secondary dir
[11:55] <Gnonthgol> Nylira: what?
[11:55] <Nylira> checking
[11:55] <pfp> :O
[11:55] <Madpilot> superSizeMe: type "/join ubuntu-fr" to join that group
[11:55] <Nylira> have a drive here apparently mounted in 2 dirs with different options
[11:56] <pfp> Nylira: oh, that can't be healthy :)
[11:56] <lunitik> Nylira, check /etc/fstab
[11:56] <Nylira> yes yes
[11:56] <Nylira> working on it
[11:56] <lunitik> Nylira, :)
[11:57] <Gnonthgol> somebody had a sound card that put the input of the mic out on the speekers without drivers installed?
[11:57] <Nylira> Thanks guys.. I am gonna kill my friend
[11:57] <bytefoo> my desktop seems really dark :-/
[11:57] <superSizeMe> #ubuntu-fr
[11:57] <Nylira> he damn well remounted it without teling me
[11:57] <bytefoo> but the brightness is high :o
[11:57] <Nylira> thus having it mounted on a secondary dir
[11:57] <Nylira> what an ass
[11:58] <bytefoo> holy crap, 3ddesktop is laggy :-/
[11:58] <Nylira> so it was mounted twice with different options
[11:58] <bryant> never used this program befor
[11:58] <Nylira> no wonder the system had no clue
[11:58] <bryant> creepy
[11:58] <pfp> heh
[11:58] <superSizeMe> ok   MERCI
[11:59] <Madpilot> bryant: it is labelled as experimental - but if you can take a screenshot and stick in up on the 3ddesktoHowto wiki page, that would be cool!
[11:59] <Wigged> you know i could but like i dont want to
[11:59] <tdn_> I no!  I added something in System => Administration => Synaptic =>Repositories. How do I get it back to normal? (default from installation. This is a clean install)