[00:09] <modifier> kk4ewt, Ben64: No EE's on xorg log anymore, yey. Now the Kubuntu logo flashes once, then loads up a bit and just blank white.  No errors. Warning about glamouregl
[00:24] <Bashing-om> modifier: A thought, did you purge the old driver(s) amd the xorg.conf file orior to installing the new driver ?
[00:24] <Bashing-om> prior*
[00:25] <modifier> Bashing-om: drivers yes, xong config no.
[00:25] <modifier> xorg*
[00:25] <nacc> Gallomimia: what news?
[00:25] <nacc> Gallomimia: or i should say, *which* news
[00:27] <Bashing-om> modifier: can you boot presently via the recovery console ? try and remove and rebuilt the xorg.conf file .
[00:27] <nacc> Gallomimia: do you mean the rather dumb length-of-one-tweet one? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3094-1/ it's been fixed in 16.04 for a few days
[00:29] <modifier> Bashing-om: I don't know how to rebuild it, BUT! I tried renaming ~/.kde, which didn't help but then i did: export DISPLAY=:0.0 and it worked!
[00:29] <modifier> I'm on my desktop now
[00:30] <Bashing-om> modifier: Well .. That is all to the good . You do good work .
[00:31] <modifier> Bashing-om: Thank you!
[00:32] <modifier> kk4ewt, Ben64: Thank you too!
[00:33] <Gallomimia> nacc: yep i think that's the one. good to know
[00:33] <Bashing-om> modifier: ( sudo nvidia-xconfig to regenerate the xorg.conf file)
[01:14] <kus-n62> computer froze with kubuntu 16.04 and virtual box with Windows 10 guest. mouse works but ctrl + shift + F2 doesn't do anything. what do?
[01:14] <kus-n62> num lock key doesn't work so I'm guessing keyboard is locked out
[01:16] <modifier> Argh, only could start x, it kinda is just a big mess altho it looked like it's working at first
[01:21] <Chr|s> Boy, I remember when th is channel was busy non stop :/
[01:27] <kus-n62> rsub
[01:28] <kus-n62> so many people on this channel... is everyone asleep?
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | kus-n62
[01:30] <OerHeks> if we were, that would be silly.
[01:33] <Maroon> how can i clean my distribution up
[01:33] <Maroon> i last intsallled fusion-icon
[01:33] <Maroon> and uninstalled it again,
[01:35] <delarge> hi there, what's the best program to manage a android smartphone? I want to restore to default settings
[01:36] <Maroon> but sp,ethong remained left in the sysstem thats why I have a startup error when I boot my system, after the start of the X sysstem
[01:41] <kus-n62> looks like it is nouveau that crashed
[01:45]  * CryptHex waves Hello
[01:47] <fastAndBulbous> there seem to be a lot of bugs with managing audio through the system settings in ubuntu 16.04. After I upgraded from 14 I noticed that I need to restart my computer before an hdmi output source selected from the gui will actually work.
[01:50] <fastAndBulbous> and then like, if I connect a bluetooth headset at my work computer, toggling the mode from HSP/HFP to A2DP Sink will just erroneously change the output to the top output source in the list, which is usually HDMI
[01:51] <fastAndBulbous> I can't tell if that's just an issue with the gui or not, like the click on the "mode" drop down isn't registering properly.
[01:52] <fastAndBulbous> though this only happens if audio is currently playing, so that makes me think its NOT the gui. if audio is stopped you can change the mode no problem.
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Maroon: Have you tried ' sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove fusion-icon ' ?
[02:12] <jeffreylevesque> anyone here use inotifywait?
[02:19] <jacob_> hi
[02:20] <jacob_> does anyone know why ubuntu yakkity was paused?
[02:21] <OerHeks> jacob it isn't, release is set on this 20th
[02:21] <Guest36103> oh, on the ubuntu distro site, it says paused......
[02:21] <Dubna_K42> hi there
[02:21] <Guest36103> hi
[02:22] <OerHeks> where does it say that?
[02:23] <OerHeks> release is on 13th, even one week earlier https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseSchedule
[02:23] <Dubna_K42> I can't back up these days
[02:23] <Dubna_K42> it says cannot understand duplicate version
[02:27] <Dubna_K42> duplicate version not understanded
[02:27] <Dubna_K42> how to solve?
[02:27] <phagah> anyone can help-me with the XFCE4 desktop labels alignment? All my icons label on desktop are aligned to right, like on writer when you write a paragraph and align it to right
[02:29] <phagah> anyone can help-me with the XFCE4 desktop labels alignment? All my icons label on desktop are aligned to right, like on writer when you write a paragraph and align it to righ
[02:33] <phagah> i saiu (Read error: Connection reset by
[02:44] <Dubna_K42> No one answered our questions :-(
[02:52] <Fedoration_> Dubna_K42: that indicates that nobody understood your question or nobody knew the answer.
[03:16] <seven237> why is Ubuntu selling out to MSN
[03:16] <seven237> :(
[03:17] <Ben64> it isn't
[03:17] <k_sze[work]> Could somebody move this to AskUbuntu? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/313393/how-to-ensure-that-autofs-and-nfs-are-ready-before-another-service
[03:17] <seven237> they are combining forces arnt they?
[03:17] <Ben64> seven237: no idea what you're talking about
[03:18] <k_sze[work]> (And also help answer the question, if anybody has a clue.)
[03:18] <seven237> well they are partnering
[03:19] <seven237> http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
[03:19] <orlock> seven237: Yeah, i'm running it here
[03:19] <teward> k_sze[work]: offtopic here.  (Flag the post for UNIX mods to consider moving, but note Ubuntu is on topic there)
[03:19] <orlock> seven237: It's not bad, but it's also not new. Microsoft has has unix compatibility layers for quite a while
[03:20] <seven237> Hmm, anything MSN gets their hands on turns to shit
[03:20] <orlock> seven237: You mean MSFT, MSN is something else
[03:21] <k_sze[work]> teward: I don't have the required rep to flag it, I think.
[03:21] <seven237> Microsoft period
[03:21] <k_sze[work]> oh wait...
[03:21] <orlock> seven237: They have gotten much better recently.
[03:37] <jack> test
[03:37] <macbook> Hello Everyone
[03:38] <jack> so...newcomer
[03:38] <jack> hello guys
[03:38] <macbook> i resurrected my macbook today
[03:38] <macbook> what an excersize in frustration
[03:39] <Guest36103> macbook: what happened?
[03:39] <macbook> well, this computer is a mess of closed source hardware - than you broadcom, nvidia and apple
[03:40] <macbook> so it was tough to get things working, and very tough to find the right nvidia driver and broadcom driver (both b43 and sta and bcmwl-kernel-source work for wifi)
[03:41] <Guest36103> but you have a macbook
[03:41] <macbook> yes I do - what do you mean?
[03:42] <macbook> its an old one
[03:44] <macbook> Guest36103 do you have experience with macs?
[03:57] <PapistPenguin> Hey
[04:02] <Guest36103> macbook: a little, oh yea, thy switchd to intel stuff, older stuff i know pretty well
[04:11] <kotaro> anyone know channel publisher ?
[04:11] <kotaro> or bloger channel
[04:11] <gabriel_> oi
[04:14] <kotaro> roger roger
[04:19] <benklop> I'm using the 4.8 kernel from theUbuntu kernel PPA, and i'm getting CPU hangs every few hours or so, that render the system unusable. Log if anyone is interested: https://gist.github.com/benklop/adcdf19608989fac4399b54e306b43bb
[04:23] <benklop> never mind.. I see those are mainline kernel builds. I suppose that means this should be reported upstream.
[04:37] <joj[]> Hi, which is the canonical location now to load kernel modules at boot: /etc/modules (classic) or /etc/modules-load.d (systemd)? 16.04 has both...
[04:37] <daemon555> anybody know a good alarm clock in ubuntu?
[04:41] <benklop> daemon555: cron running speaker-test?
[04:42] <benklop> not really a serious anser, sorry :)
[04:52] <daemon555> bonklop: nop
[05:35] <habbasi> Hello. I'm getting a black screen after installing official nVidia drivers.
[05:35] <habbasi> Have to revert to noveau to get display.
[05:38] <Fedoration_> habbasi: I've had that. Checking http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html are you using the 340 version?
[05:42] <habbasi> Fedoration_: 361.
[05:42] <Fedoration_> In that case I'd try uninstalling 361 and trying 340
[05:43] <koko777> how change ident in the xchat-gnome 0.3.0
[05:43] <habbasi> Fedoration_: sudo apt install nvidia-340?
[05:43] <Fedoration_> I think so, yes, after you have erased 361 and rebooted.
[05:53] <habbasi> Fedoration_: 340 takes me into a weird low graphics mode with a configuration screen. Nothing in there works.
[05:53] <Fedoration_> Shame. 340 worked well for me (on elementaryOS and Mint) so I expected it would on regular Ubuntu. Still, we likely have different hardware.
[05:58] <msevwork> i have this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/407131/why-is-plymouthd-crashing-on-startup and the solution appears to be chown -R <myusername>:<myusername> /lib/plymouth ...does that mean i type it in like this:   chown -R <msev>:<msev> /lib/plymouth
[05:59] <dconroy> didnt click link but you have to remove the <>
[05:59] <dconroy> you probably have to run it with sudo
[06:00] <dconroy> sudo chown -R msev:msev /lib/plymouth
[06:00] <dconroy> it may work but doesnt look like the cleanest solution
[06:02] <b34n90> http://www.renegadetribune.com/were-free/
[06:02] <msevwork> thank dconroy
[06:02] <msevwork> thanks*
[06:13] <Ironmal> Angry ebony mistress whips the face of her slave mercilessly
[06:13] <Ironmal> http://xhamster.com/movies/3911072/femdom_face_whipping_faceslapping_face_slapping.html
[06:14] <msevwork> dconroy, what do you think about this solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/695761/plymouthd-crashes-on-startup-intel-hd-3000-15-10 which one is better :D
[06:15] <dconroy> this one looks better if it is actually the root of the problem
[06:15] <dconroy> my main issue with the previous solution is it didnt handle multiple users
[06:16] <dconroy> if you are the only user on the box , itll probably work fine
[06:16] <Ironmal> "Amazed over that cruel rage. Just loved it !!" "too cruel for me, but i must admit, it makes me rockhard" "So hot. So brutal.
[06:16] <Ironmal> http://xhamster.com/movies/3911072/femdom_face_whipping_faceslapping_face_slapping.html
[06:17] <Microtrauma> laaaaame
[06:17] <Microtrauma> !ops
[06:18] <Microtrauma> dunno the syntax
[06:18] <elky> what are you trying to achieve?
[06:18] <dconroy> hes trying to book mark the xhmaster links i think
[06:19] <dconroy> ;-)
[06:19] <dconroy> or boot the spammer
[06:21] <sebsebseb> hi
[06:27] <msevwork> dconroy, the issue is plymouthd sigserv crash in ubuntu gnome 16.04
[06:27] <sebsebseb> wow really this channel  no life for a few minutes untill ok just now
[06:27] <dconroy> oh, your first link was for ubuntu 13 or somethin old
[06:28] <dconroy> is this in a VM?
[06:29] <dconroy> if not: try sudo chown -R msev:msev /var/lib/plymouth
[06:29] <dconroy> if it is a vm, try disabling 3d acceleration
[06:30] <Norbin> anyone was able to install vmware workstation 12 on 16.04?
[06:31] <Norbin> not install, get it to run, rather
[06:34] <msevwork> dconroy, no its a bare metal install of ubuntu gnome 16.04 on a modern machine i5 cpu nvidia gpu and so on
[06:34] <dconroy> ok well verify the location of the the plymouth library with tab completes
[06:35] <dconroy> and change the ownership to your user
[06:35] <dconroy> sudo chown -R msev:msev /var/lib/plymouth
[06:36] <msevwork> does the folder have to have files inside?
[06:36] <msevwork> :D
[06:37] <dconroy> to comfirm your problem - you are getting plymouthd crashing with a SIGSEGV on boot?
[06:37] <dconroy> if the folder has no files you might not be setting permissions on the right dir
[06:39] <gebruiker> I am out of space
[06:39] <gebruiker> How can I dort for packages that take up most of my space?
[06:40] <gebruiker> virtluabox
[06:41] <dconroy> to just find larger files you can use find with -size
[06:41] <dconroy> find / -size +10M -ls
[06:42] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: how did you set up virtualbox
[06:42] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: as in the vm
[06:42] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: speciallfy the hard disk option
[06:42] <gebruiker> 8 GB kind a the default sebsebseb
[06:42] <dconroy> i think by default they auto expand
[06:42] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: 8 GB fixed space, not dynamially expanding ?
[06:43] <gebruiker> i thought it would auto expand too
[06:43] <dconroy> install the gt5 package that gives you human readable usage by directory
[06:43] <gebruiker> but it does not
[06:43] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: indeed your stuck with 8GB if you gone for fixed space and put 8GB
[06:43] <alkisg> gebruiker: what's the output of: df -h
[06:43] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: there may be a way to re size anyway, but probably a bit complex, in general it's better ot just go with dyanically expanding
[06:43] <alkisg> gebruiker: then, sudo apt-get clean; df -h
[06:43] <gebruiker> alkisg, hold on a sce
[06:44] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: for whateer vm that is installed,  I would  put 40GB  and put dyanially expanding, the vm file itself would usaully remain quite small on the pshyicall hard disk, in  hojme folder hidden folder .virtualbox unless you put a lot into it
[06:44] <alkisg> Usually the space goes in ~/Virtualbox VMs
[06:44] <alkisg> In .virtualbox there are only the settings, not the VMs
[06:45] <dconroy> i think he is looking for storage solutions on the vm and not the host system
[06:45] <alkisg> Yup
[06:45] <sebsebseb> gebruiker: akaWolf I am not sure if any of that will help,  since it's a  fixed size VM that's been put to 8GB space.  it's like a computer thinking a hard disk is only 8GB in space a pshyicall hard disk.  can a pshyicall hard disk ever be resized in the size it is,  no not that I know of
[06:45] <alkisg> And resizing the vm in the host, solves the guest issue
[06:45] <gebruiker> alkisg, /dev/sda1          6,8G     6,4G   15M 100% /
[06:45] <sebsebseb> alkisg: not sure that can be done though, when it's a fixed size vm
[06:45] <alkisg> Disks can be resized, yes
[06:46] <sebsebseb> alkisg: partitons can be, but not a pshyicall hard disk
[06:46] <sebsebseb> alkisg: the vm of 8GB is like having a pshyicall hard disk of 8GB
[06:46] <gebruiker> will that work with / on vm without losing data?
[06:46] <alkisg> sebsebseb: I've done it, do you claim that I haven't done it?
[06:46] <dconroy> VBoxManage modifyhd "path-of-disk-file" --resize 40000
[06:46] <alkisg> sebsebseb: you just need to properly update the mbr
[06:47] <sebsebseb> alkisg: you hae resized a fixed sized  virtualbox vm, well if so, ok explain to gebruiker how to do that
[06:47] <sebsebseb> alkisg: fixed size, not dyanically expanding option
[06:47] <msevwork> dconroy, yes i have that problem...i'm not at the machine yet since i'm at work...so just asking in theory :)
[06:47] <alkisg> sebsebseb: dconroy already said it
[06:47] <alkisg> After the physical resize, a partition resize with gparted will be necessary as well
[06:47] <alkisg> Fixed or dynamic disk doesn't matter at all
[06:47] <dconroy> after you have increased the size of the virtual disk, then you can increase the size of the partition
[06:48] <alkisg> What dconroy said :)
[06:48] <dconroy> maybe a live cd would work
[06:48] <alkisg> Yup
[06:48] <dconroy> oooor just nuke it an start over
[06:48] <sebsebseb> well yeah or that, or just nuke it and start over
[06:49] <dconroy> before i learned how to use python virtual env’s i was doing that daily
[06:49] <msevwork> dconroy, i also forgot to mention that the whole installation was broken from the start but after sudo apt-get update and some rebuild of in the dpkg it came to life
[06:49] <msevwork> i dont know how can they ship such a broken version lol
[06:49] <msevwork> i had to fix it in recovery shell
[06:50] <msevwork> such a pain, it never happened to me on ubuntu
[06:50] <msevwork> before it was butter smooth
[06:50] <msevwork> but now disregarding a few crashes it works fine the ubuntu gnome
[06:50] <msevwork> i'm liking the sleekness and design of the apps
[06:51] <dconroy> this is my first time in this channel, but i already know im gonna be the “nuke it and start over” guy
[06:53] <gebruiker> dconroy, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23273779/
[06:53] <msevwork> dconroy, haha :D
[06:53] <msevwork> well i guess i'm more a fixerupper than
[06:54] <msevwork> i decided not to nuke and pave
[06:54] <msevwork> and its working quite good :D
[06:54] <dconroy> ugh windows
[06:54] <dconroy> alright make a copy of it
[06:54] <dconroy> rename it to iso
[06:54] <dconroy> and try again
[06:57] <msevwork> is it safe to upgrade to gnome 3.20 on 16,04
[06:57] <Ben64> no
[06:58] <alkisg> gebruiker: use the .vdi file, not the .vbox file. The vbox is the vm, the vdi is the disk, you want the disk.
[06:58] <alkisg> Also, windows... ugh :D
[06:58] <dconroy> yikes
[06:58] <dconroy> glad i told him to make a backup
[06:59] <dconroy> howd i miss that
[06:59] <dconroy> oh 2am
[06:59] <alkisg> Haha
[06:59] <gebruiker> alkisg, that worked
[06:59] <sebsebseb> msevwork: you can but via  a ppa I think
[06:59] <sebsebseb> msevwork: that  should mostly work ok
[06:59] <dconroy> irc needs to retroactively add giphy support
[07:00] <alkisg> gebruiker: is the disk bigger now, if you use the windows explore and see its size?
[07:00] <gebruiker> alkisg, going to boot up
[07:00] <sebsebseb> msevwork: but with ppas slight risk of something eles going wrong, but gnome ppa is quite well tested I belie so should be fine
[07:00] <alkisg> gebruiker: don't; you need a live cd now
[07:00] <alkisg> gebruiker: ...to resize the partition
[07:00] <alkisg> gebruiker: i.e. you need to boot the vm with ubuntu.iso
[07:00] <sebsebseb> msevwork: however by upgrading a 16.04 install to a later GNOME, you basically break it's Long Term Supprot party in a wya
[07:00] <gebruiker> alkisg, i thought ext4 would be live resizeable by design?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> msevwork: and 16.10 is out soon as well
[07:01] <alkisg> gebruiker: ...could be, but why do you want to live in the edge?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> msevwork: partly above
[07:01] <alkisg> gebruiker: you also need to update the mbr and move the swap partition etc
[07:01] <gebruiker> alkisg, i did not know it was on the edge i thought ext4 would be as old as my grandmas boob
[07:02] <gebruiker> alkisg, oh okay
[07:02] <alkisg> gebruiker: messing with the partitions of a booted system is not stable, old stuff
[07:02] <dconroy> he went there
[07:02] <dconroy> rip nana
[07:02] <jondo> Hi
[07:03] <dconroy> if you dont have a live cd handy there are smaller apps that can help with the partition resize
[07:04] <sebsebseb> jondo: hi
[07:04] <dconroy> gparted has a live cd
[07:05] <dconroy> i hope this damn vm is worth it lol. you could always attach another drive
[07:13] <msevwork> sebsebseb, do you think 3.20 will ever be officially backported to 16,04
[07:14] <sebsebseb> msevwork: no never
[07:14] <sebsebseb> msevwork: that would totally break the idea of a LTS as well
[07:14] <sebsebseb> msevwork: altough actsually...
[07:15] <sebsebseb> msevwork: with reason in a few years, when that version of GNOME ships by default,  they might upgrade to a later one, but it's pretty unlikely
[07:15] <msevwork> how would i put this in my path /usr/local/gromacs/bin
[07:15] <sebsebseb> since can use a later relase of Ubuntu GNOME anyyway
[07:15] <msevwork> the executables that are present in that folder
[07:15] <sebsebseb> msevwork: LTS will stay with what it ships with mostly
[07:15] <sebsebseb> you want something later go use the non LTS in general
[07:15] <sebsebseb> the next one is out soonish 16.10
[07:17] <gebruiker> alkisg, i resized the partiton with resize2fs but in cfdisk the partition does not show up resized
[07:18] <alkisg> gebruiker: you need to maximize the partition *before* resize
[07:18] <alkisg> gebruiker: use ubuntu.iso, run gparted there, and do it graphically
[07:19] <leeyaa> guys do you know if ubuntu dapper had iptables module for filtering strings ?
[07:23] <sebsebseb> leeyaa: hmm yeah possibly, but that's a rather old releaes now of Ubuntu
[07:23] <sebsebseb> !dapper
[07:23] <leeyaa> sebsebseb: i know. i just have a weird case
[07:23] <leeyaa> sebsebseb: do you know how to find out ?
[07:24] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> Hallo meine Amerikanischen Kameraden :3
[07:24] <sebsebseb> leeyaa:  not needed really to do anyth8ing proper with iptables before, and who dose mostly now as well, so nah  can't really help
[07:24] <sebsebseb> !de
[07:24] <M412VIN> was gehhhhht
[07:25] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> nö bleib hier trotzdem drin und spreche deutsch
[07:26] <M412VIN> hallo timur
[07:26] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> hi marvin
[07:26] <leeyaa> darn
[07:27] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> was geht leeyaa
[07:27] <leeyaa> nein deutch :D
[07:28] <M412VIN> hey
[07:28] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> nande (can you speak japanese ;D)
[07:29] <M412VIN> hahahhahahaha
[07:29] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> fresse marvfin
[07:29] <ducasse> !ot
[07:29] <M412VIN> du hälscht dein  schnauze jetzt
[07:29] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> gleich gibts auf die fresse :3
[07:30] <M412VIN> jaja
[07:30] <M412VIN> im PC raum oder
[07:30] <ducasse> !ops
[07:30] <M412VIN> bei herr Prinz hahaha
[07:30] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> ja ich sitz hier direkt neben dir
[07:30] <M412VIN> i know
[07:30] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> der ist zu behindert um des zu bemerken wird schon klappen
[07:31] <M412VIN> hahahhahaha
[07:31] <WOWAWIBOBOBU> yo9u stupid mutterfucker
[07:31] <M412VIN> alter was
[07:31] <Spookan> Ignore works too ducasse.
[07:36] <gmsaydti_> hello my friends Im back
[07:37] <modifier> My desktop is really unusable. Upgraded to Kubuntu 16.04.1 last night and resolved some problems with xorg and nvidia. All the errors are now gone and instead of booting into a black screen (after kubuntu load logo) i am now getting a white screen instead. Going startx manually takes me to my old desktop, but it's reeeeally broken.
[07:40] <modifier> Hmm.. white screen with cursor apparently
[07:40] <leeyaa> guys
[07:40] <leeyaa> how to find out when was /lib/iptables/libipt_string.so introduced ?
[07:40] <ducasse> modifier: kubuntu uses sddm, right? have you tried reinstalling it?
[07:41] <modifier> ducasse: purge and install?
[07:41] <ducasse> modifier: or 'apt install --reinstall'
[07:41] <modifier> ducasse: i'll give it a shot
[07:42] <matyy> Hey, does someone know how KDE programms (in this case Krusader) access MTP devices when run in Unity? I can write onto my phone from nautilus, but when using krusader it says "Disk full."
[07:42] <gebruiker> i have 31gb of unallocated space, and I want to add that space to /
[07:42] <gebruiker> how do I do that?
[07:43] <ducasse> matyy: i think they use something called KIO.
[07:44] <matyy> ducasse: yeah, I think but only if run under KDE? Cause the addres is: /run/user/1001/gvfs/mtp:host...
[07:44] <Guest7417> rootsector,hmm?
[07:44] <ducasse> matyy: no idea if it requires a daemon or something.
[07:46] <SkylakeMX> hey
[07:47] <RandomNick1333> Hi guys, can anyone assist me in installing Ubuntu through a VM? (VM -> physical partition -> Dual boot)
[07:48] <Morientes123> Hi, I am a Linux beginner user, tell me please is it possible to use wicd or wpa_supplicant on openbox, with no other desktop environment?
[07:48] <Morientes123> If yes, tell me please is there any up to date link to show how to to it step by step? Thank you.
[07:50] <ducasse> Morientes123: you can do that, but if you really need a step-by-step guide it might not be a good solution for you.
[07:52] <Morientes123> Thank you ducasse, still can you provide please a link with at least some more details? I have been installing only Lubuntu core minimal installation, with nothing else more and than openbox...
[07:53] <modifier> ducasse: still boots into a white screen and is as broken when i manually startx
[07:53] <ducasse> Morientes123: well, 'sudo apt install wicd' would give you wicd, not sure what more you need.
[07:54] <modifier> ducasse: startkde gives me: $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server
[07:54] <ducasse> modifier: never used kde, so i know little about it. you'd probably get more help in #kubuntu if no-one else here can help.
[07:54] <Morientes123> Lubuntu-core which I have been using has only http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-core do you think that it couldn't work because of it's minimal packages, tell me please which are the minimum packages for wpa_supplicant to work..
[07:54] <ducasse> modifier: you need to start the x server before running startkde
[07:54] <modifier> ducasse: already trying to get help there, but thanks! :)
[07:55] <ducasse> Morientes123: the ones listed as 'depends'
[07:55] <modifier> ducasse: So running startx might also start kde since it throws me onto my old desktop (altho broken)?
[07:56] <ducasse> modifier: depends on your x init files (~/.xinitrc etc)
[07:56] <Morientes123> ducasse: the ones listed as "depends" are the only one for wpa_supplicant to work? Not referring for Lubuntu to work...
[07:57] <ducasse> Morientes123: 'apt show wpasupplicant' then look at the 'depends' line.
[07:59] <SkylakeMX> Morientes123: ofcourse, it is :P
[08:01] <Morientes123> Depends for wpasupplicant: libc6, lidbus, libnl, libnl-genl-3-200, libpcsclitel, libredlines6, libssl1.0.0, lsb-base, adduser
[08:02] <Morientes123> Unfortunately on http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-core on the packages I have them now is nothing from the wpas depends installed in this moment.. :)
[08:02] <ducasse> Morientes123: installing wpasupplicant will also install dependencies.
[08:03] <Morientes123> Is it possible to install every each of them manually ?
[08:03] <Morientes123> Oh, ok ducasse
[08:05] <Morientes123> Tell me please, which is the command to restart the network to start the cable internet connection after I plug in the utp while the system is running, without to restart....
[08:06] <Sillypirato> You shouldnt have to really
[08:07] <ducasse> Morientes123: 'sudo systemctl restart networking' should do it.
[08:08] <Morientes123> Thank you...
[08:10] <Morientes123> Tell me please is there any other way to connect to a hidden wireless network with wpa encryption only from the command line other than wpasupplicant ?
[08:11] <ducasse> Morientes123: nmcli maybe? never tried.
[08:15] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 what r trying to do ?
[08:17] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: :) have been installing only lubuntu-core minimal, after that openbox, and trying to connect to a hidden wifi network with wpa2-psk password :)
[08:17] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 oke , right so thats either nm-cli  , wpa_supplicant + dhclient or something like wicd
[08:18] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 btw nothing wrong with wpa_supplicant, works wonderful
[08:18] <Morientes123> Good Sillypirato all of them are only command line, I will try all of them to see with which one I will can do it...
[08:19] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 wel if you have a gui you can insstall nm-applet
[08:19] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: I am a beginner, I have been trying for many hours with my knowledge but no result... :)
[08:19] <axerbium> hiya, i'm having lots of problems with iwconfig: power management just refuses to be disabled. I've tried the advice here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/269661/how-to-turn-off-wireless-power-management-permanently, http://askubuntu.com/questions/606446/power-management-for-wireless-unable-to-turn-off-in-xubunu-15-04-vivid, http://askubuntu.com/questions/85214/how-can-i-prevent-iwconfig-power-management-from-being-turned-o
[08:19] <axerbium> Nothing works!
[08:20] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ill help you , well get it working
[08:20] <Morientes123> I wouldn't like to use a gui, I will do my best with command line...
[08:20] <Morientes123> OK Sillypirato... let;s do it :)
[08:22] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 but you have openbox running right ?
[08:22] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: I will connect now in here from the laptop which I have to do it, maybe I have to copy-pate something, yes openbox is running, I will come here from it now...
[08:22] <modifier> ducasse: ran reinstall kubuntu-desktop kde-* plasma-desktop and now it works! even got to keep my old 'theme'
[08:22] <Morientes123> :)
[08:23] <ducasse> modifier: good :)
[08:24] <Morientes123> Here I am.. :)
[08:24] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 does iwconfig show you a network interace ?
[08:25] <modifier> ducasse: only problem atm is my font when typing. I can see scandic letters fine when i press enter, but when typing they're just question mark symbols. But that really isn't a problem. :)
[08:26] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: tell me please it is safe to paste in here what iwconfig is showing ?
[08:26] <ducasse> Morientes123: in a terminal?
[08:26] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 no, use a pasting service
[08:26] <Morientes123> yes, in a terminal..
[08:27] <ducasse> modifier: where do you get this? and what font?
[08:27] <Morientes123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274018/
[08:27] <modifier> ducasse: konsole, which i'm currently using for ssh
[08:28] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ah looks good, oke so you want to use wpa_suppliant or nm-cli ?
[08:28] <Robin___> To write a file I own, do I still need write access to the file? :)
[08:28] <ducasse> modifier: can you try another font?
[08:28] <modifier> ducasse: could it be UTF-8 problem?
[08:28] <ducasse> modifier: not sure, tbh
[08:28] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: which one is more uo to date, safty, stable, receive more updates, and so one :) I count on you :)
[08:29] <modifier> ducasse: Oxygen mono is the font
[08:29] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 well eventhough i really like wpa_supplicant lets go with nm-cli , this is the ubuntu way, ill have to check the manual
[08:30] <Morientes123> Excellent Sillypirato
[08:31] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 btw can you try to start nm-applet from the cli
[08:32] <Morientes123> command please Sillypirato
[08:32] <modifier> ducasse: another font won't fix the problem... and it's really weird it only shows when typing
[08:32] <Robin___> What access rights to i need to delete a file in a folder. Isnt it +w to the file and +x to the folder?
[08:32] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 nm-applet
[08:32] <Morientes123> Excuse me I am a beginner :)
[08:32] <modifier> ducasse: like Ã¤ and Ã¶
[08:32] <ticatious> me too a beginner
[08:32] <ticatious> how to download and istall softwares
[08:33] <Morientes123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274038/
[08:33] <modifier> Ã¤Ã¤Ã¤Ã¶Ã¶
[08:33] <modifier> Ooops, wrong window
[08:33] <ducasse> modifier: weird. got no idea what could cause this.
[08:33] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 oke and does the machine have internet connection already ?
[08:33] <ducasse> !manual | ticatious
[08:34] <Morientes123> yes Sillypirato I am on it now, from the cabble...
[08:34] <ticatious> ubottu: install softwares and packages
[08:34] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ah great, oke so install that , as root "apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[08:34] <modifier> ducasse: ah! encoding problem it was.
[08:35] <modifier> ducasse: Changed from UTF-8 to baltic ISO and everything is fine now
[08:35] <unga> somebody can giveme somwhere to read or tell me how to deal with .bdf (bitmap fonts) in ubunut ? I have this in /etc/fonts/conf.d
[08:35] <unga> http://pastebin.com/hxBJczGe
[08:36] <unga> and that font leggie, shows up say in gnome-terminal
[08:36] <modifier> ducasse: thanks for support :)
[08:36] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 when that is done try running it again
[08:36] <unga> but I want add moar fonts
[08:36] <pandaadb> Hi :) Glad to hear 16.10 is coming. I assume X.org 1.19 didn't make it in?
[08:36] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: maybe sorry, the wpa_supplicant is more minimalist, and more direct, with no more installs than nm-cli ? My apologises a combination of safty an minimal ?
[08:36] <ducasse> modifier: maybe you had a non-utf8 locale set?
[08:37] <Morientes123> I would like to keep it as simple as possible or even for wpas I need "apt-get install network-manager-gnome"
[08:37] <modifier> ducasse: could be.. i vaguely remember fussing up with UTF-8 at some point
[08:37] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 no worries , this is tiny
[08:37] <Morientes123> Good Sillypirato, I will install it
[08:37] <ticatious> how to download and istall softwares
[08:38] <Sillypirato> ticatious https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/software-center/
[08:38] <ducasse> modifier: 'locale' will tell you
[08:39] <ducasse> pandaadb: try #ubuntu+1
[08:39] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 and i get it , i dont like all the junk either, my systems are a simple as can be
[08:39] <Robin___> This is fucked up. I need +w file to delete a file right?
[08:39] <Robin___> +w access right
[08:40] <Robin___> and it should be enough with +x access to the folder?
[08:40] <Morientes123> Super Sillypirato ;) after installing netowrk manager http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274063/
[08:41] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ah oke , sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service
[08:41] <Morientes123> And still "thinking"...
[08:42] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 thats the modern way of doing it , would expect it to be running but oke
[08:42] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 does it accept that ?
[08:42] <Morientes123> After sudo systemctl start NetworkManager.service
[08:43] <Morientes123> No message...
[08:43] <Morientes123> Now nm-applet
[08:43] <Morientes123> And... thinking...
[08:43] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 oke that sounds good, it should spawn an icon
[08:43] <Morientes123> No message, and neither the possibilty to write other command...
[08:44] <Morientes123> The cursor is blinking at the beginning, without the username and host in front of it...
[08:44] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 do you ssee an icon in the bottom or anything like that
[08:44] <Morientes123> Should I ctrl+c or let it like that...
[08:45] <Morientes123> Uf Sillypirato no icon... :)
[08:45] <Morientes123> In the system try ?
[08:45] <Morientes123> down right ?
[08:45] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 yes thats what i would expect though it needs somewhere to dock and im not too familiar with openbox
[08:46] <Morientes123> Uf Sillypirato openbox.... no taskbar...
[08:46] <Morientes123> nothing at all only windows...
[08:46] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ah oke maybe you setup something like docker
[08:46] <Morientes123> no desktop environment...
[08:46] <Morientes123> Maybe... :)
[08:47] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 well thats the lazy way of doing it , will you need to be able to switch wireless every day or often ?
[08:47] <Morientes123> Mmmm, not so often..
[08:49] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 because thats what its useful for , to have it auto switch networks and stuff and i would suggest for a beginner to use something like it , with wpa_suppplicant it surely works but you will have to connect it manually
[08:50] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 thats up to you really, but something like docker is useful for applets
[08:50] <Morientes123> I would like to learn to do it manully, is it extremly hard, and do you have enough time to explain to me ?
[08:51] <Morientes123> docker is the only way, and the simplest one for a beginner is it right ?
[08:51] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 pretty much yes
[08:51] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 but it can certainly be done manual nor is that hard
[08:52] <Morientes123> If you have enough time, we could try...
[08:52] <ducasse> Morientes123: you could also use stalonetray
[08:52] <Sillypirato> Ah thats a good suggestion ^
[08:52] <Sillypirato> can you expand on that ducasse
[08:52] <Morientes123> ducasse: it's the first time I am hearing of docker and stalonetray :)
[08:53] <Morientes123> I have to more hours for that for the beginning, if someone is available to try it together...
[08:54] <ducasse> Morientes123: it's basically just a system tray, intended for use along with a wm
[08:54] <Morientes123> ok... ducasse
[08:54] <Sillypirato> should be in the standard repo right
[08:55] <ducasse> think so.
[08:55] <ducasse> !info stalonetray
[08:55] <Sillypirato> just try to install it with apt-get and lets see if we can spawn the nm-applet on it
[08:55] <Morientes123> sudo apt-get install stalonetray
[08:55] <modifier> ducasse: en_US UTF-8 :P
[08:55] <Morientes123> ok ?
[08:55] <Sillypirato> yes
[08:56] <Sillypirato> @ducasse , good tip , ill try that on my fvwm box
[08:56] <Morientes123> Done sudo apt-get install stalonetray
[08:56] <modifier> gtg, cu
[08:57] <Morientes123> And after nm-applet, thinking, no result still
[08:57] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 great , try to start that from a new terminal
[08:57] <Morientes123> ok..
[08:57] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 after that run nm-applet
[08:57] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 in a new window
[08:58] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: run it in a new window, and no message and go on, no thinking like in the old windows...
[08:58] <Morientes123> :)
[08:58] <Morientes123> *old terminal window
[08:58] <ducasse> Morientes123: did you start stalonetray first?
[08:59] <Morientes123> ducasse: nope
[08:59] <CVirus> Morning, I had a failed upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and then I somehow managed to fix it using recovery mode and apt full-upgrade ... But I think the packages that were removed from xenial are still there, like for instance the ubuntu software center .. How can I get rid of those?
[08:59] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 first you start the tray tool , then in a new window run nm-applet
[08:59] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: ducasse command please?
[08:59] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 if that all works we can automate its startup n stuff
[09:00] <ducasse> Morientes123: 'stalonetray &' i expect
[09:00] <Sillypirato> ^
[09:00] <Sillypirato> it should pop up a new tray on your desktop
[09:01] <Morientes123> 'stalonetray &' i expect stalonetray &: command not found
[09:02] <Morientes123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274122/
[09:02] <ducasse> Morientes123: paste what is inside '...' only
[09:02] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 looks like it isnt installed
[09:03] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 try installing it again with apt-get install stalonetray
[09:03] <Morientes123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23274127/
[09:03] <ducasse> Sillypirato: he pasted everything - including quotes
[09:03] <Sillypirato> oh lol
[09:03] <Sillypirato> ty
[09:04] <Morientes123> sudo -i
[09:04] <Morientes123> ok?
[09:04] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 ah just follow up on that , apt-get install iprint
[09:04] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 and it needs a config file
[09:04] <ducasse> Morientes123: you don't paste 'i expect' - that was _text_!
[09:05] <Sillypirato> hahaha
[09:05] <Sillypirato> listen to this fella ^ :P
[09:05] <Morientes123> :)
[09:05] <Morientes123> Sorry
[09:05] <Morientes123> Done apt-get install iprint
[09:06] <Sillypirato> here steal this config file and save it to .stalonetrayrc https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1007821
[09:06] <Morientes123> nm-applet
[09:06] <Morientes123> new terminal
[09:06] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 it wants a config file we need to feed it that first
[09:07] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 that basically describes its layout and behaviour
[09:07] <Morientes123> OOO, when I windows+d I have just seen in the left up an icooon :) guess waht :)
[09:07] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 oh good
[09:07] <Morientes123> the wireless connections :)
[09:07] <Morientes123> Good :)
[09:07] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 basically you want to autostart nm-applet on boot
[09:08] <ducasse> Morientes123: there is a sample config in /usr/share/doc/stalonetray/examples/stalonetrayrc.sample.gz if you want to make it nicer later
[09:08] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 and networkmanager is not autostarting, you want to fix that
[09:08] <Morientes123> ducasse: tell me please you are referring to make the networkmanager nicer ? :)
[09:09] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: can you tell me please how ?
[09:09] <ducasse> Morientes123: the tray
[09:09] <Sillypirato> @Morientes123 do this ; sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
[09:10] <Sillypirato> @Morientes123 it will autostart networkmanager the service , then you will need to lookup how to auto start things in openbox and add nm-applet to that
[09:10] <Morientes123> ok ducasse, Sillypirato done...
[09:10] <gabriel_awe> any pantaho users?
[09:10] <Sillypirato> @Morientes123 http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostarthttp://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart
[09:10] <Sillypirato> woops http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart
[09:10] <Sillypirato> keyrepeat rate is too high on this damn buttonplate
[09:11] <Morientes123> oook..
[09:12] <Sillypirato> @Morientes123 just add in " nm-applet & " whereever they tell you you should, after that reboot and see if that all works
[09:12] <Sillypirato> also dont forget that tray if you are using it
[09:12] <Sillypirato> the & basically means; run in background
[09:13] <Morientes123> ok Sillypirato, I am trying now :)
[09:15] <Sillypirato> ducasse ty
[09:19] <chinychinchin> HELP - luks uefi lvm root filesystem does not boot - no password prompt allowed
[09:24] <chinychinchin> does Xenial work using an luks encrypted lvm root filesystem
[09:26] <k1l> chinychinchin: afaik that is the standard if you choose "encrypt my system" on the installer.
[09:28] <gabriel_awe> any pentaho users?
[09:29] <k1l> gabriel_awe: you might have more luck in the pentaho channels? (if they have irc channels)
[09:32] <chinychinchin> k1l: i have a custon partition scheme - /boot /boot/efi and /dev/nvm0n1p3 as the encrypt
[09:40] <baash05> Hey guys/girls
[09:40] <baash05> I got a small echo script that I'm trying to figure out how to store as a variable.  echo $TEXT | grep -o 'api-\S*\W*api\.prod-aws\.mysite\.com\W*255'
[09:41] <baash05> I'm wondering if anyone could give me a hand with this.. I think it's a simple
[09:42] <splashing> can someone hack in my fucking computer???
[09:42] <hateball> baash05: variable=yourstring
[09:42] <baash05> right..
[09:42] <Sillypirato> splashing just ask the question
[09:43] <ppf> baash05: by wrapping it in $()
[09:43] <baash05> I tried that.
[09:43] <baash05> one sec..
[09:43] <ppf> so why aren't you happy with it?
[09:43] <dodo3773> baash05: have you tried backticks
[09:44] <ppf> dodo3773: don't use backticks
[09:44] <dodo3773> ppf: Why not?
[09:44] <baash05> answer=$( $TEXT | grep -o 'api-\S*\W*api\.prod-aws\.mysite\.com\W*255' )
[09:44] <baash05> FQDN:: command not found
[09:44] <baash05> FQDN is the first bit of data in text
[09:44] <ppf> dodo3773: because you can't nest them
[09:44] <dodo3773> baash05: what is $TEXT?
[09:44] <ppf> baash05: you're missing an echo there
[09:44] <dodo3773> ppf: ah
[09:45] <Morientes123> Thank you very much Sillypirato and ducasse
[09:45] <ppf> baash05: what shell is this?
[09:45] <baash05> standard ubuntu terminal.. Gnome
[09:45] <baash05> But that last thing worked.
[09:45] <dodo3773> baash05: Yeah, sounds like ppf is right. $(echo $TEXT)
[09:46] <baash05> I was sure I tried that.
[09:46] <ppf> echo $0 tells you the shell
[09:46] <baash05> bash
[09:46] <dodo3773> baash05: or why not just grep $TEXT without the pipe?
[09:47] <baash05> Eh..
[09:47] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 you r welcome, always good to help a fellow linux user getting started
[09:47] <baash05> show pls :)
[09:47] <ppf> baash05: grep [...] <<< $TEXT
[09:47] <Morientes123> One question please, now the machine is booting a command line terminal, tell me please is it possible only for one wireless conecctions to start firefox directly from console without to use openbox or any other envrinoment ?
[09:47] <ppf> <<< is posix i think, so should work in dash as well
[09:47] <baash05> I'll give it a go.
[09:47] <dodo3773> ppf beat me to it
[09:48] <ducasse> Morientes123: not firefox, no. it requires x.
[09:48] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 well you need something that can do  the rendering , hence the desktop
[09:48] <dodo3773> dash? What is dash?
[09:49] <k1l> !dash
[09:49] <Morientes123> oook, any other browser can do that ? :)
[09:49] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 there are cli browsers but dont expect more than text ;)
[09:49] <baash05> COOL.. THANKS.
[09:49] <dodo3773> So, it's for cross-compatibility in case someoen somehow doesn't have bash I guess
[09:49] <Sillypirato> lynx is one such browser
[09:50] <FMan> links is another
[09:50] <baash05> Oops.. didn't mean to yel
[09:50] <k1l> Morientes123: what is the reason for you wanting to launch firefox on cli?
[09:50] <dodo3773> Sillypirato: some cli based have pictures too
[09:50] <Morientes123> :) minimalist, and simplicity :)
[09:50] <Sillypirato> webbrowsers are about the only gui i use which is fine
[09:51] <Morientes123> but no chance for audio or video streaming for those kind of browser, right ?
[09:51] <Sillypirato> having an openbox setup like yours has such low footprint that its about as fast and minial as it gets
[09:51] <Morientes123> for example youtube... :)
[09:51] <dodo3773> I think the cli browser with pictures is links like FMan said
[09:51] <Morientes123> oook Sillypirato, openbox is the best ! :)
[09:52] <baash05> final solution  answer=$(grep -o 'api-\S*\W*api\.prod-aws\.mysite\.com\W*255' <<< $TEXT | grep -o 'api-\S*' )
[09:52] <baash05> Looks ugly as.
[09:52] <Sillypirato> There is really no need to toss the entire WM overboard , if you want to go even more minimal I suggest looking up dwm/awesome/i3
[09:52] <dodo3773> Morientes123: No I don't know of any with video / audio. At least not without some 3rd party app being called like mplayer or youtube-dl etc..etc...
[09:53] <Sillypirato> yeah thats making hard on yourself ^
[09:53] <dodo3773> Morientes123: Also, openbox world domination! ;P
[09:53] <dodo3773> Sillypirato: Yeah, I agree. Chromium works fine for me *shrug*
[09:54] <Morientes123> Great guys, I understand...
[09:54] <Sillypirato> now all you need is xcompmgr to make you look like a hacker
[09:54] <Sillypirato> dont forget green on black terminals
[09:54] <Sillypirato> :P
[09:54] <dodo3773> green on black for life
[09:55] <Sillypirato> the pirate needs smokes, just drop in if there is anything Morientes123
[09:55] <Morientes123> :)) don't intend that, any kind of hacker for the moment, white, gray or black..
[09:55] <dodo3773> with blue and red shades for zsh  of course
[09:56] <dodo3773> and different shades of green for different parts of commands
[09:56] <Sillypirato> ohmyzsh
[09:57] <Morientes123> Sorry Sillypirato, I am not so good at jokes :)
[09:57] <dodo3773> zsh-autosuggestion and zsh-syntax-highlighting with a good .zshrc and I'm loving it
[09:58] <Sillypirato> Oh yes me too, i cant do without that completion
[09:58] <dodo3773> oh and completions gotta have completions
[09:58] <dodo3773> Sillypirato: Yes!
[09:58] <Sillypirato> I destroy tab keys if it doesnt
[09:58] <dodo3773> hahaha
[09:58] <Sillypirato> COMPLETE DAMN U
[09:58] <Microtrauma> lol
[09:58] <dodo3773> seriously though
[09:58] <Sillypirato> yeah its wonderful , complete commands and all ,couldnt do without
[09:58] <dodo3773> I forget sometimes when on a different machine and i'm left dumbfounded for a minute
[09:59] <Sillypirato> auto capital correction , and we r getting offtopic, sory mods :P
[09:59] <dodo3773> this was fun I should come on here more often
[09:59] <Sillypirato> :)
[10:00] <dodo3773> well, i'm off. take care everyone
[10:00] <dodo3773> :)
[10:00] <Sillypirato> I decided jumping in every so often and just help some random dude just for heck of it
[10:00] <Sillypirato> bb
[10:00] <dodo3773> Sillypirato: me too. This is where I started so good to come back and help
[10:00] <dodo3773> Helped me a lot in the beginning. A lot a lot
[10:01] <dodo3773> Okay later
[10:02] <Morientes123> Sillypirato: I am alowed to ask in here about tinycore ?
[10:04] <Sillypirato> Morientes123 some mod will kick ur ass
[10:04] <ducasse> Morientes123: try ##linux
[10:05] <Morientes123> I understand, now tell me please I don't have any sound... :))
[10:05] <Morientes123> I haven't got at all from the begining of reformating and installing lubuntu-core +openbox
[10:05] <Morientes123> Some commands please ? :)
[10:06] <ducasse> Morientes123: if you want to run such a minimal install you *will* need to read a lot of docs, not expect someone here to set everything up for you. just saying...
[10:06] <Morientes123> Roger that ducasse
[10:07] <ducasse> Morientes123: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036749
[10:07] <Morientes123> Perfect ducasse
[10:08] <dullbozwr> "Your worst enemy is not Jews, White Man, but your own females.” -- Andrew Anglin, publisher of the #1 Alt Right website
[10:09] <juanonymous> hello
[10:09] <juanonymous> how do you use curl -o?
[10:09] <juanonymous> what does this means btw? curl: option --output: requires parameter
[10:09] <juanonymous> when it says it requires a parameter?
[10:09] <Morientes123> ducasse: one more time please the link with how to make the taskbar to look nicer
[10:10] <ikonia> it wants a parameter
[10:10] <ducasse> juanonymous: 'curl -o filename ...'
[10:10] <ducasse> Morientes123: sample config is in /usr/share/doc/stalonetray/examples/stalonetrayrc.sample.gz
[10:10] <juanonymous> ah
[10:10] <juanonymous> so i cant use it like to fetch info from a site?
[10:11] <ikonia> yes you can
[10:11] <ducasse> juanonymous: -o is output, iirc
[10:11] <juanonymous> something like curl -o wttr.io/weater
[10:11] <ikonia> no
[10:11] <ikonia> man curl
[10:13] <juanonymous> ok thanks btw
[10:16] <juanonymous> is it possible to eliminate this curly braces btw here
[10:16] <juanonymous> while calling to curl
[10:17] <juanonymous> like this for example
[10:17] <juanonymous> {
[10:17] <juanonymous>   "ip": "<IP_ADDRESS>",
[10:17] <juanonymous>   "hostname": "No Hostname",
[10:17] <juanonymous>   "city": "Momoyama-cho",
[10:17] <juanonymous>   "region": "Kyoto",
[10:18] <ducasse> !paste | juanonymous
[10:18] <juanonymous> sorry
[10:19] <ducasse> juanonymous: is that what you get from curl? looks like json.
[10:19] <juanonymous> is this possible to call out this curly brace using curl
[10:19] <juanonymous> http://termbin.com/otmd
[10:19] <juanonymous> yes it is json
[10:19] <ducasse> juanonymous: 'call out'?
[10:20] <juanonymous> i mean erase
[10:20] <juanonymous> erase the curly brace using curl
[10:21] <ducasse> juanonymous: not with curl, but you could use something like sed, awk or grep
[10:21] <ticatious> extracting and configuring files on ubuntu
[10:21] <ducasse> juanonymous: or just feed to json to jq to parse it
[10:22] <somaReve1> Hi, why does my OOM killer not do its job when memory resource becomes intense?
[10:22] <somaReve1>  it doesn't kill the probematic process which consumes 10GB memory and leads the system to an uninteractive state
[10:22] <somaReve1> Xorg becomes 'D' when memory resource is intense
[10:23] <juanonymous> hmmm could you fetch out data from sites using grep btw?
[10:23] <ticatious> extracting and configuring files on ubuntu
[10:24] <ducasse> juanonymous: curl+grep, yes.
[10:24] <ducasse> ticatious: you need to ask a question
[10:24] <juanonymous> for example regarding with this one ipinfo.io
[10:24] <cerion> somaReve1: http://askubuntu.com/a/402940/350004
[10:24] <juanonymous> how could i combine curl+grep there?
[10:25] <juanonymous> curl ipinfo.io/data | grep
[10:30] <skinux> Where are unix socket files intended to be placed? I'm trying to configure PHP-FPM socket file to be at /var/run/php but PHP-FPM says it cannot find to that address
[10:30] <ducasse> juanonymous: if you're getting json then jq would probably be a better choice than grep
[10:30] <skinux> I need to get this working so I can continue development of my products.
[10:30] <juanonymous> ah
[10:31] <ikonia> skinux: you can put it where you want
[10:31] <skinux> Why can't PHP-FPM bind to /var/run/php then?
[10:31] <ikonia> it doesn't bind
[10:31] <juanonymous> could i combine curl with jq?
[10:31] <skinux> ERROR: unable to bind listening socket for address
[10:31] <skinux> Apparently it does
[10:31] <juanonymous> something like that?
[10:31] <ikonia> skinux: no it doesn't
[10:31] <juanonymous> curl+jq?
[10:31] <ikonia> skinux: thats because there is something already listening (probably the web server)
[10:31] <ducasse> juanonymous: curl ... | jq ...
[10:32] <juanonymous> ok
[10:32] <skinux> Why would Apache be listening at /var/run.php7.0-fpm.sock?
[10:32] <skinux> I mean /var/run/php/php7.0-fpm.sock *
[10:32] <ikonia> skinux: who said it's the socket
[10:33] <ikonia> skinux: also look at the basics, eg: the permissions
[10:33] <ducasse> juanonymous: the docs for jq are good - https://stedolan.github.io/jq/manual/v1.5/
[10:33] <juanonymous> ok thanks ducasse
[10:33] <ikonia>  /var/run/php - can the php service access that file system
[10:38] <clu3> guys suddenly all of my file system becomes "Read-only file system". I'm still on that box now
[10:38] <clu3> any help pls?
[10:39] <k1l> clu3: look into "dmesg" what is happening there
[10:39] <clu3> [69759.401660] type=1701 audit(1475577572.007:8647): auid=4294967295 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=4294967295 pid=17613 comm="chrome" reason="seccomp" sig=0 syscall=311 ip=0xb17e6424 code=0x50001
[10:39] <clu3> i see messages like this, very cryptic to me
[10:40] <somaReve1> cerion: cool, thanks
[10:40] <k1l> clu3: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[10:41] <hacker454> hello
[10:41] <clu3> http://termbin.com/924l
[10:41] <clu3> @k1l
[10:41] <hacker454> whats that
[10:41] <hacker454> may i know ur speed
[10:42] <k1l> clu3: journal commit I/O error
[10:42] <skinux> I already set proper permission and ownership on the php directory under /var/run
[10:42] <k1l> that is worrying me
[10:42] <joules> hi anyone use ubuntu server?
[10:42] <ikonia> skinux: have you verified the process can access it
[10:42] <ikonia> joules: many people
[10:43] <skinux> How would I do that?
[10:43] <clu3> yep, @k1l is my hdd in trouble ~
[10:43] <k1l> clu3: yes.
[10:43] <joules> I'm looking for cpufreq modules for my intel processor
[10:43] <ikonia> skinux: what account is the prefork process running as
[10:43] <skinux> www-data
[10:43] <clu3> should i backup data now ...
[10:43] <k1l> clu3: yes, asap
[10:43] <ikonia> skinux: can the www-data account access and create a file in that directory
[10:44] <joules> acpi_cpufreq
[10:44] <skinux> Well, I have permissions set so it should be able to, but how do I test that?
[10:44] <ikonia> skinux: give the user accont a valid shell and become that user
[10:45] <skinux> I don't know how to do that
[10:45] <ikonia> skinux: what does the fpm logs show
[10:45] <joules> I am unable to set the frequency governor with ubuntu servers default kernel...
[10:45] <joules> surely not
[10:45] <ppf> skinux: sudo -H $user sh
[10:45] <skinux> THat log is empty
[10:45] <Sillypirato> Thats hard to believe
[10:45] <ikonia> joules: define unable
[10:45] <joules> no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
[10:46] <Sillypirato> what cpu do you have ?
[10:46] <skinux> sudo: www-data: command not found
[10:46] <ikonia> joules: is the acpi_cpufreq module loaded
[10:46] <joules> yup
[10:46] <ikonia> joules: how did you confirm that
[10:46] <joules> wait no
[10:47] <rexwin_> how do I convert amr file to mp3 file?
[10:48] <joules> modprobe acpi_cpufreq doesn't give an error but it doesn't seem to load.
[10:48] <Rajk> use handbrake app
[10:48] <ikonia> handbrake is not an audio converter
[10:48] <popey> Rajk: using ffmpeg
[10:48] <popey> oops, I mean rexwin_ :)
[10:48] <Sillypirato> lsmod | grep acpi
[10:48] <ikonia> joules: ok, so there is the bit you've got to work out first
[10:48] <rexwin_> Could not find codec parameters for stream 0 (Audio: mp3, 0 channels, s16p): unspecified frame size Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' and 'probesize' options
[10:48] <rexwin_> when I try to use ffmpeg
[10:48] <joules> lol no insmod says "insmod: ERROR: could not load module acpi_cpufreq: No such file or directory"
[10:49] <skinux> I can't seem to put it ANYWHERE!
[10:49] <skinux> Pissing me off
[10:49] <Quezzon> Hi ppl, a newbee here. I would like to learn more about Linux, any tips (Besides trying)
[10:49] <joules> the kernel/drivers/cpufreq module directory is sparse.
[10:50] <popey> rexwin_: what version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <rexwin_> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[10:50] <Quezzon> Ubuntu Mate right now
[10:51] <Z0rkel> I just reinstalled ubuntu and ran into an odd problem, I installed cinnamon and mate but think I made a small mistake somewhere or rather quite sure actually. I wonder how can I purge cinnamon/mate and make a proper installation of those desktops? (using 16.04.1)
[10:51] <ducasse> !manual | Quezzon
[10:51] <joules> so it's compiled into the kernel anyhow.
[10:51] <joules> so are all the governors..
[10:52] <popey> rexwin_: you sure it's an amr file, looks like it thinks it's an mp3?
[10:52] <Quezzon> Thx ubottu! and ducasse
[10:52] <joules> default governor is performance lol
[10:52] <Quezzon> I do think I know the basics but I do not know where to start to get a step furter
[10:54] <popey> rexwin_: seems possibly a bug in ffmpeg where it can't properly identify file content
[10:54] <skinux> What does sudo -H do?
[10:54] <rexwin_> let me try another ubuntu version
[10:55] <popey> skinux: "man sudo" and read the bit about -H ?
[10:55] <Sillypirato> ^
[10:55] <popey> (it's default on Ubuntu)
[10:56] <skinux> Either way, it didn't work
[10:56] <ducasse> Quezzon: there's a good debian book at https:/debian-handbook.info, the arch wiki is good, as is the ubuntu wiki.
[10:57] <dknight87> anybody used sensu here? not getting much assistance on the sensu channel
[10:58] <skinux> No matter where I put it it says unable to bind listening socket to address
[10:59] <Sillypirato> permissions or in use ^
[10:59] <Sillypirato> which port is it and r u using sudo
[11:04] <AnonProtestBR> Oi, bom dia.
[11:16] <kotaro> cqui
[11:18] <k200> hi
[11:18] <k200> why secret mario chronicels is not in repo of 16.04 ??
[11:18] <UbuntuDude> how come I get the same LibreOffice application entry on the dash whether I type Libre or excel?
[11:18] <UbuntuDude> how to change that behavior and contron which keyword shows which applications?
[11:19] <popey> k200: because it looks like it was removed from debian, so was removed from ubuntu when we synced at some point
[11:20] <k200> :-(
[11:21] <awareness-kindne> Can I write messages?
[11:21] <awareness-kindne> Yes I can, ok good.
[11:22] <awareness-kindne> Updating package ubuntu-drivers-common to latest version makes my laptop computer fan to go on high speed. This happens even if there is no system load or cpu load.
[11:23] <awareness-kindne> I have reported this bug but they don't care much. Now I must update the package to latest version because otherwise I can't login. How can I fix my laptop fan speed?
[11:24] <joules> hi, sorry. is it normal for ubuntu to compile cpufreq drivers itno the kernel?
[11:29] <joules> ok so it was a bios option that fixed it
[11:34] <TomyWork> can "systemctl restart systemd-logind" break stuff, forcing a reboot?
[11:37] <TomyWork> my sshd  is stalling at "debug1: Entering interactive session." and http://superuser.com/a/917629 suggests to run that command. strace supports the underlying hypothesis that sshd is communicating with some dbus service at the time it's stalling
[11:38] <ppf> TomyWork: if it broke something, how bad would that be? just give it a try?
[11:39] <TomyWork> ok it worked and didnt break anything :)
[11:42] <Sillypirato> TomyWork can you explain how you are trying to login ?
[11:44] <TomyWork> ssh -Tv git@my-gitlab-host
[11:45] <TomyWork> sshing into other users is the same though
[11:45] <TomyWork> but that command solved the problem, so...
[11:52] <faekjarz> Hey there! I upgraded from Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 to 16.04: now i can't calculate simple equations any more in the …ehm… that exposé thing, when i press the super key, you know (?) Is that functionality externalised into a shell extension, or how do i get that back?
[11:58] <lordcirth> faekjarz, I never new the Dash could do that.  However, I use SpeedCrunch for equation solving
[11:59] <vegombrei> hiya folks
[12:00]  * vegombrei cant get mkv files to play, think im missinga codec or something, it only plays audio no video can anybody help me fix this please
[12:00] <faekjarz> lordcirth: haha, well it did, i'll research SpeedCrunch now ;)
[12:01] <k1l_> faekjarz: it still works for unity. but i dont know about ubuntu gnome
[12:02] <vegombrei> que passa
[12:03] <LosPup> vegombrei: If it needs HEVC, this worked for me. http://askubuntu.com/questions/631200/unable-to-play-hevc-files-on-ubuntu-14-04-lte
[12:03] <faekjarz> k1l_: DOH, silly me! Yes, Gnome still does it too. (lordcirth) …i overlooked that scroll bar …it's all the way to the bottom m)
[12:04] <mysticTot> i tried to use systemd-networkd
[12:04] <mysticTot> but i messed up
[12:04] <mysticTot> i have no internet access in my machine  righ now
[12:06] <faekjarz> OK, next question: how do i disable those "App Store" search results in Gnome Dashboard?
[12:19] <vegombrei> LosPup: didnt work, i tried both ways in the url you sent me
[12:19] <vegombrei> LosPup: you think i need to medibuntu??
[12:22] <vegombrei> LosPup: u there ?
[12:22]  * vegombrei cant get mkv files to play, think im missinga codec or something, it only plays audio no video can anybody help me fix this please
[12:22] <Ben64> install mpv
[12:23] <vegombrei> mpv doesnt work either
[12:23] <Ben64> pastebin the output of it
[12:23] <vegombrei> what output?
[12:23] <Ben64> when you do "mpv file.mkv"
[12:23] <vegombrei> its just a black screen with only audio and no video
[12:24] <vegombrei> ah ok in terminal
[12:25] <Spookan> vegombrei: Dosent vlc play it?
[12:26] <vegombrei> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/szXeJ974
[12:27] <Ben64> uh, well you actually have to put in the proper file
[12:27] <vegombrei> Spookan: nope, tried everything with vlc too adding repos updating it, also the libde plugin etc
[12:28] <ioria> vegombrei, ^ Ben64
[12:28] <vegombrei> Ben64: im sorry i didnt get that
[12:28] <vegombrei> i did give the path to the corrct file
[12:28] <Ben64> see all the errors about not being able to find a bunch of things
[12:28] <Ben64> because you didn't escape spaces, and you didn't put a file in at all
[12:29] <Ben64> use tab to complete things
[12:30] <fireman__> Jordan_U: hello jordan, do yo remember me?
[12:32] <jackhum> i just have installed 16.04 and at some places in my firefox and system i notice text rendered as boxes . what is the problem here , how to tackle this?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> ONLY in ffox?
[12:33] <fireman__> Jordan_U: On my keyboard i found button for switch the wifi I was try press it and then my laptop turn to airplane mode, so i think its some trouble on my keyboard's driver
[12:33] <jackhum> cfhowlett: yeah, in firefox , and i some window dialog too , i noticed it i guess but i cant remember
[12:33] <jackhum> but is boxes . i am guessing its kind of language or font problem
[12:34] <cfhowlett> jackhum, what language do you need?
[12:34] <jackhum> how to figure out the real problem and solve it?
[12:34] <vegombrei> Ben64: so i cpoied the file to desktop .. is this the right command?  mpv /home/vegombrei/Desktop/House of Cards S03E01 Chapter 27 (1080p x265 Joy).mkv.
[12:34] <jackhum> cfhowlett: i am indian , so i think all the indian languages?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> jackhum, and did you install those languages??
[12:35] <jackhum> cfhowlett: when installing , i didnt had internet connection so , i unchecked all the language marks etc
[12:35] <cfhowlett> jackhum, ah. I would guess your language support is in need of attention now that you have access.
[12:36] <jackhum> cfhowlett: so , how can i solve it ? any command on terminal that i can execute and whooshj?
[12:36] <faekjarz> vegombrei: your mpv parameter (the /path/to\ the\ file) is nor escaped - spaces need a backslash!
[12:36] <Ben64> vegombrei: needs to be escaped or in quotes. again, use tab
[12:37] <cfhowlett> jackhum, go to your dash, type in "language" no quote marks.  the language support utility should be one of the choices.  launch it and add and/or apply your languages as needed.
[12:37] <Ben64> although from the filename i see the problem
[12:38] <AraceliBradley> Hello guys........
[12:39] <jackhum> cfhowlett: should i install all the languages ? because website do consist pages with different type of language? :D
[12:39] <nadeko> Hello.
[12:40] <vegombrei> aah
[12:40] <cfhowlett> jackhum, I guessing some of the websites you use need a particular font that is currently missing ...
[12:40] <jackhum> helloo
[12:40] <vegombrei> one sec ill try again ... im a noob guys just installed ubuntu like a week ago
[12:40] <Ben64> vegombrei: which version
[12:41] <jackhum> cfhowlett: do i need restart my computer for changes to take effects?
[12:41] <nadeko> Can I request help? So, I have two GPU in my PC, one is NVIDIA, and intel is another. So, if I want to use intel one exclusively for my monitor, how do I do it?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> jackhum, as a last resort
[12:41] <faekjarz> vegombrei: tab-completion should do that for you, automatically …or use quotes: those → ""
[12:41] <LosPup> vegombrei: I'm assuming you are using Ubuntu and VLC.  You can act like you are using Windows or a Mac GUI,  open a file folder with media you want to play, open VLC app, click media icon "whateverTVshow" and drag it on to the VLC player and drop or release it.
[12:41] <vegombrei> 14.4lts
[12:42] <Ben64> vegombrei: great
[12:42] <jackhum> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:43] <cfhowlett> jackhum, happy2help!
[12:44] <nadeko> mm... sorry. the right term should be graphic card, is it?
[12:45] <jackhum> cfhowlett: is there any way i can make my ubuntu start in clean way without showing error logs , when i start my ubuntu there is always 2-3 lines of error ,  i know it doesnt matter , but can i like wipe out those annoying messages , ?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> jackhum, yeah, but you are advised to just live with the few seconds of annoyance rather than silence important msg's.
[12:46] <vegombrei> http://pastebin.com/FWLYdES1
[12:46] <AraceliBradley> my friend want to upgrade his 14.04 to 16.04, how big average data used to do it via software updater? and which the best way, fresh install or upgrade?
[12:46] <Ben64> vegombrei: in order to get h265 videos working, you'll need to add this PPA and install mpv from the new repo. it should update after adding the PPA and running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
[12:46] <cfhowlett> AraceliBradley, I suggest clean install.  the .iso will be around 1.5 gb these days iirc
[12:49] <ppf> why not upgrade
[12:50] <ppf> it works most of the time :)
[12:50] <kurowa> Hello.
[12:50] <jackhum> cfhowlett: right now i am loving 16.04 for the lack of AMD graphics support . As my laptop has two graphics intel hd 3000 and AMD 7670M my laptop used to give only 1 hour backup earlier when i was using 14.04 because both of my graphics were completely running.
[12:50] <ppf> jackhum: you can deactivate the dedicated graphics gard
[12:51] <ppf> through the bios and usually through software as well
 ok, then we need backup Home directory. please share your experience.
[12:51] <jackhum> cfhowlett: i tried lots of solutions but never managed to get them work with 14.04 . but now in 16.04 i read that AMD graphics are not supported. I dont use dedicated Gpu a lot
[12:51] <ppf> AraceliBradley: that's orthogonal. you need to back up your home directory either way
[12:51] <ppf> you also should be doing that regularily
[12:52] <vegombrei> Ben64: eureka !!! it worked
[12:52] <jackhum> ppf , how can i turn that off completely , i read somewhere that currently AMD is not supported but they will upgrade it to support AMD . How can i make sure that even after upgrades my AMD is always turned off , giving me 3 hrs of backup which i am loving :)
[12:53] <vegombrei> Ben64: that last thing i did with ppa fixed my player dude thanks soooo much man
[12:53] <ppf> amd is supported
[12:53] <ppf> boot your bios, you should be able to switch it of
[12:53]  * vegombrei thanks all for all your help .. gonna go watch my show now thanks again
[12:53] <Ben64> vegombrei: no problem
[12:54] <jackhum> ppf: no , i dont have any option to switch it off in bios menu
[12:54] <fireman__> Hello all, my wifi hardblocked and maybe its because of wifi button on keyboard work for airplane mode, anybody have same experience? And solving its promblem?
[12:54] <jackhum> ppf: when i installed 16.04 fresh i was like , thank god my laptop is not getting overheated as it was in 14.04
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !home | AraceliBradley
[12:55] <ppf> maybe it turned of the dedicated card automatically
[12:55] <ppf> try this: sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[12:56] <ppf> cfhowlett: that's not really what AraceliBradley asked for
 actually, fresh install the safest way to avoid app incompatibility and misconfiguration
[12:58] <kurowa> So. I have a driver problem. Using NVIDIA graphic card in laptop, optimus.
[12:58] <kurowa> The intel one doesn't appear.
[12:59] <jackhum> ppf: aah, i remember getting this answer from all the internet forums ,. sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch , but there is not file named this right now , and also not when i was with 14.04
[12:59] <kurowa> more exactly, Unknown: Unknown under Software & Updates, Additional Driver.
[13:00] <Guest64479> hi, i successfully installed ubuntu mate on a separate partition but now I can't boot windows 7 as my pc boots straight into ubuntu... what should I try?
[13:00] <ppf> AraceliBradley: sure
[13:00] <jackhum> i just love not making my laptop stress out on dedicated graphics when i am using ubuntu , i am just a simple developer, no need of using GPU :P
[13:01] <cerion> jackhum: you should have a menu (grub) to boot other OS too at boot
[13:01] <ppf> jackhum: sudo grep -i switcheroo /boot/config-*
[13:01] <jackhum> cerion: yes
[13:01] <jackhum> cerion: i use burg
[13:01] <cerion> Guest64479: ^
[13:01] <jackhum> cerion: burg - ubuntu + windows
[13:01] <cerion> jackhum: yep sorry
[13:02] <Guest64479> cerion: i don't get a grub bootloader menu, it just goes straight into ubuntu
[13:02] <jackhum> ppf: CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO=y
[13:03] <ppf> okay. lsmod | grep -e amd -e radeon
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | Guest64479, do you have an ubuntu boot USB?  if so ...
[13:04] <ppf> cfhowlett: please read properly what people ask
[13:04] <Guest64479> thanks, i will give that a read
[13:04] <jackhum> ppf: what are you making me do by these commands ?
[13:04] <ppf> Guest64479: no need, that doesn't cover your problem
[13:04] <ppf> jackhum: check if your kernel can do gpu switching and if the drivers are loaded
 yes i have that experience, my network special key use fn+f3, the fn key not work, maybe dead, but ubuntu network manager did awesome magic, i can switch it off and on just a click way, but when i switch to window i can't turn on my wifi
[13:05] <ppf> Guest64479: you do have grub, but by default its set to silent and will boot ubuntu directly
[13:05] <ppf> Guest64479: you can change that behaviour in /etc/default/grub
[13:05] <jackhum> ppf: lspci | grep VGA , this gives me two GPU output , 1 AMD radeon , other INTEL HD
[13:06] <ppf> jackhum: yes, but this is about the drivers, not the hardware
[13:06] <ppf> which outcome would you like to achieve btw
[13:07] <Guest64479> ppf: which setting do i change to enable the menu? to avoid screwing anything up
[13:07] <jackhum> ppf: i am thinking of not switching on my dedicated GPU at all , i dont know if i use it . i dont use ubuntu for playing games and stuff . also i never do multimedia intensive jobs too
[13:08] <ppf> jackhum: alright then, just don't change anything :)
[13:08] <jackhum> ppf: how to check which graphics is currently doing the job?
[13:08] <ppf> but, out of interest, run my lsmod command above
[13:09] <ppf> Guest64479: edit /etc/default/grub
[13:09] <ppf> there should be three settings, GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDENT_*
[13:09] <jackhum> ppf: yeah , last time i played with lots of commands from varrious forums and SO threads and that apparently F* up my laptop. there was like lot of heating and barely 40 minutes of backup time.
[13:10] <jackhum> ppf: amdkfd                131072  1
[13:10] <jackhum> amd_iommu_v2           20480  1 amdkfd
[13:10] <jackhum> radeon               1515520  1
[13:10] <jackhum> ttm                    94208  1 radeon
[13:10] <jackhum> i2c_algo_bit           16384  2 i915,radeon
[13:10] <jackhum> drm_kms_helper        147456  2 i915,radeon
[13:10] <jackhum> drm                   360448  11 ttm,i915,drm_kms_helper,radeon
[13:10] <ppf> to show grub on boot, change GRUB_TIMEOUT to something sensible, like 10 (that is seconds), and comment out the HIDDEN lines
[13:10] <ppf> jackhum: for the future, please !paste
[13:10] <ppf> anyways, both your intel driver as well as radeon are loaded
[13:11] <Guest64479> thanks ppf I will try that
[13:11] <ppf> Guest64479: don't forget to run update-grub
[13:12] <hpsm22> ppf what does update-grub do?
[13:12] <jackhum> hpsm22: it will update the grub
[13:12] <jackhum> hpsm22: with entries
[13:13] <jackhum> hpsm22: it will find all the OS in your HDD and write it on grub config file , i am not the expert here , but thats all i get in few days of using linux
[13:14] <ppf> yes, exactly. it will generate a grub config based on your settings and the OSs it discoveres
[13:14] <hpsm22> jackhum is it possible that it can make my PC unbootable? because thats what happened to me yesterday, after bios screens, no ubuntu logo (no grub menu)
[13:14] <dumpchama> ppf: i have the menu now but it doesn't seem to recognise my windows 7 install. how can I add it manually?
[13:14] <jackhum> hpsm22: yes , sometimes it can , but then i use live usb or cd to recover
[13:14] <dumpchama> when I used the installer ubuntu didn't detect my existing OS either so i'm worried about that
[13:15] <hpsm22> jackhum yep, I will try to do that in hour or so :)
[13:15] <hpsm22> I hope it will be working
[13:15] <jigmate> hello everyone
[13:15] <ppf> dumpchama: it should detect that. is windows installed in uefi mode and ubuntu in legacy? (or vice versa)
[13:16] <puke> puke
[13:16] <puke> vomit
[13:16] <jackhum> hpsm22: if grub-update breaks your boot menu , then there is always an option of using boot-repair by using live ubuntu usb or cd
[13:16] <puke> barf and heave and wretch
[13:16] <puke> hurl and toss cookies
[13:16] <puke> and don't forget, blow chunks!
[13:16] <cfhowlett> puke, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or play somewhere else please
[13:16] <dumpchama> ppf: windows 7 was installed after I enabled CSM (legacy boot mode) in UEFI settings of my pc, i'm not sure about ubuntu but I booted off a usb to install it so I assume it should be legacy as well?
[13:17] <jigmate> I am trying to run "iptables-restore < /some/file/my.rules" but it gives me this: " 'ptables-restore v1.6.0: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'filter " what should I do folks???
[13:17] <puke> cfhowlett: please go pray to the porcelain god
[13:17] <jigmate> I have also searched online but the modprobe option also gives some errors
[13:17] <puke> a.k.a. go throw up in the shitter
[13:17] <ppf> dumpchama: ls /sys/firmware/efi
[13:17] <jackhum> i always love the fact that there are lots of terminal commands flying here and there on this channel . :D
[13:18] <dumpchama> no such file or directory ...?
[13:18] <puke> rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ops | puke
[13:18] <puke> cfhowlett: seriously dude
[13:18] <ppf> dumpchama: dmesg | grep efi
[13:18] <k1l_> !warning
[13:19] <hpsm22> jackhum i will try that and let you know if its working.. but right now im in train traveling to my friends so je can make me livecd :)
[13:19] <jigmate> folks please, I desperately need some help
[13:19] <hpsm22> so he*
[13:19] <teward> jigmate: does `sudo iptables -L` return a similar error?
[13:19] <dumpchama> ppf there is some output but should i paste it here?
[13:19] <ppf> !paste
[13:19] <jigmate> teward: no... it just gives some empty lists
[13:20] <teward> jigmate: use `sudo` before your iptables-restore
[13:20] <jigmate> I have
[13:20] <teward> jigmate: and it still didn't work?
 you need root access
[13:20] <teward> same error?
[13:20] <jigmate> no
[13:20] <jigmate> I am running as root
[13:20] <dumpchama> ppf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275025/
[13:21] <dumpchama> lol rip my name is there
[13:21] <teward> jigmate: I'd ask you to dump your iptables rules, because it's possible there's malformities in the file which prevents loading
[13:21] <teward> but there's other reasons I'm not going to ask that (security being what it is and all)
[13:21] <ppf> dumpchama: so, ubuntu is running in legacy mode
[13:21] <jigmate> ok lemme get a new file
[13:22] <jigmate> yeap
[13:22] <jigmate> thanks man
[13:22] <jigmate> the file was somehow the problem
[13:22] <soee_> when using kernel from mainline, how can i get those warnings vanished: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275037/ ?
[13:22] <jigmate> problem gone. thanks
[13:22] <teward> jigmate: good luck :)
[13:22] <jigmate> teward : Thanks
[13:22] <teward> jigmate: you're welcome.
[13:22] <jigmate> <3 <3 <3
[13:22] <dumpchama> ppf: does it mean that adding windows 7 to the menu is easier?
[13:23] <dumpchama> if both os's are legacy
[13:23] <ppf> i'm not convinced windows is installed in legacy
[13:23] <ppf> csm enables booting in legacy mode, it doesn't disable efi mode
[13:25] <dumpchama> hmm i will check since apparently it's a partition
[13:26] <dumpchama> ok there is a "EFI system partition" in grub... does it mean i am pretty much screwed?
[13:26] <skinux> Where is the default location for PHP-FPM .sock?
[13:27] <ppf> i don't think you can switch modes once the system is booting
[13:27] <ppf> what do you mean by '"EFI system partition" in grub' btw?
[13:28] <dumpchama> it just says in gparted, a 276mb partition named "EFI system partition"
[13:28] <dumpchama> which i assume is used by windows 7 since we found ubuntu is in legacy mode
[13:28] <ppf> okay (you said grub, that had me confused)
[13:28] <dumpchama> yeah i just noticed rip
[13:28] <ppf> grub won't be able to boot that
[13:29] <ppf> however, modern bioses have a boot menu
[13:29] <ppf> try if you can use that to boot the windows disk
[13:29] <EoflaOE> If you see EFI Partition, then you are running Ubuntu in EFI Mode
[13:30] <dumpchama> well there is a "windows boot manager" option but it doesn't do anything since i replaced Win10 with Win7, which doesn't use secure boot
[13:30] <ppf> dumpchama: just select to boot from the other disk
[13:31] <dumpchama> ok i'll try
[13:32] <ppf> EoflaOE: only if you see the efi partition of the current system
[13:33] <dumpchama> ppf: choosing the disk just loads grub menu as if I don't choose a startup disk at all
[13:33] <EoflaOE> ppf: Yes, but I never ever tested EFI as my computer does not support that, 2004 computer
[13:33] <EriC^^> EoflaOE: are you in ubuntu right now?
[13:33] <dumpchama> if I choose to somehow install ubuntu in efi mode would grub detect my windows install?
[13:33] <ppf> dumpchama: you've got a single disk?
[13:34] <ppf> dumpchama: yes
[13:34] <EriC^^> * dumpchama
[13:34] <ppf> (well probably)
[13:34] <dumpchama> yes, single disk
[13:34] <ppf> EriC^^: yes he's in ubuntu
[13:34] <EoflaOE> EriC^^: My electricity cut so I am on tablet Android, Please wait till my electricity is coming...
[13:34] <EriC^^> dumpchama: type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[13:34] <ppf> EriC^^: we did that
[13:34] <ppf> he's got legacy ubuntu and (probably) efi windows
[13:35] <dumpchama> yeah
[13:35] <EriC^^> EoflaOE: oh, nevermind i meant to talk to dumpchama , it was a mishighlight
[13:35] <ppf> (probably because i don't really know how to check that on windows [from the outside])
[13:35] <skinux> Should PHP-FPM use user www-data by default?
[13:35] <EriC^^> dumpchama: try sudo parted -l and pastebin the output
[13:36] <dumpchama> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275104/
[13:36] <EoflaOE> EriC^^: ok.
[13:37] <dumpchama> note the partition #1 which I probably should have taken note of before installing
[13:37] <EriC^^> dumpchama: yeah windows is definitely installed in efi mode
[13:37] <EriC^^> reinstall ubuntu or convert ubuntu
[13:37] <dumpchama> convert?
[13:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:38] <EriC^^> add the efi partition to fstab, and install the grub-efi package
[13:38] <ppf> EriC^^: how do you determine windows being in efi mode from that?
[13:39] <EriC^^> ppf: it doesn't have a boot partition thingy
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:39] <EriC^^> it usually has a tiny partition for booting in legacy mode, the disk is gpt too i think windows doesn't support gpt + legacy at all
[13:39] <ppf> okay
[13:39] <skinux> YAY! GOT IT!
[13:39] <ppf> i actually know very little about how windows boots :)
[13:39] <ppf> that's all a black box for me
[13:40] <dumpchama> eric^^ : i get the general idea but I will look up a detailed guide for conversion
[13:40] <dumpchama> yea I still need Windows for some applications haha
[13:41] <UbuntuDude> how come I get the same LibreOffice application entry on the dash whether I type Libre or excel?
[13:41] <UbuntuDude> how to change that behavior and contron which keyword shows which applications?
[13:41] <UbuntuDude> control*
[13:42] <ppf> dumpchama: there's virtualbox for that :)
[13:42] <fjaltring> I am on a budget and have been offered this HP Pavilion 15-p265no (AMD A10-5745M, 8 GBb + Radeon R7 M260, 2 Gb) - how well would this perform with Ubuntu? No gaming, web, video, office and photo editing (possibly video)...
[13:42] <EriC^^> UbuntuDude: change the keyword in its desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[13:42] <UbuntuDude> thanks EriC^^
[13:44] <cfhowlett> fjaltring, amd graphics are less certain than intel or nvidia.  8gb of ram is good. rather than asking, why not make an ubuntu USB, sit down with the machine and live boot it?
[13:44] <dumpchama> ppf: true, but for "certain reasons" i rather not have a virtualised instance of windows :3
[13:44] <dumpchama> restarting, see if it works now. thanks for your help guys
[13:45] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: No, I mean my wifi hardblocked because that button, the button is can turn on and off airplane only, the button function are swapped to airplane switch not wifi
[13:46] <EriC^^> UbuntuDude: no problem
[13:47] <TomyWork> ubuntu 16.04: i had slow ssh logins (stops for 5-30 seconds after "debug1: Entering interactive session."), "systemctl restart systemd-logind" solves it for about an hour, then it's back to slow. how do i solve this issue so it doesn't come back?
[13:47] <fjaltring> I haven't got this HP Pavilion at my place yet, just wanted your views on the AMD A10 and the Radeon GPU.  What would such and AMD CPU compare to in Intel terms? What would be comparable fra Nvidia?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> fjaltring, amd has recently improved graphics driver capabilities on linux.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> late to the game, but they are trying.
[13:49] <fjaltring> I thought there were some stories recently about AMD proprietary drivers and Ubuntu 16.04 not getting along. Has this been resolved?
[13:50] <Amm0n> Does anyone here uses encrypted swap on a laptop? I'd like to know how the initramfs stuff is working with 16.04. Documentation i found is for 12.04.
exactly, wifi function inside that button
[13:51] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: Yupp, have you fix it?
[13:53] <ppf> fjaltring: there are no more proprietary amd drivers
[13:53] <ppf> they went open source
[13:54] <fjaltring> Superrrr!
[13:54] <fjaltring> For photos I would like to use Darktable in my photo workflow - I assume Radeon R7 M260 would support OpenCL and speed up things, right?
[13:57] <one|2> Drone`: how is farming looking?
[13:58] <one|2> What is the current kernal at?
[13:59] <k1l_> !info linux-generic
[13:59] <k1l_> that is the 16.04 kernel
 no, since that physically damaged, maybe in the future i need to replace keyboard, but it wasn't big deal, because i still can use wifi function on ubuntu
[14:13] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: not in my case, wifi hardblocked because this button
[14:13] <Golden1> hi, can someone explain to me how to enable wifi on fresh ubuntu installation ?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> fireman__, on my old Dell, the wifi button was f2 under windows.  after 4 years of rebooting to windows to windows to reset it, I accidentally discovered that alt + f2 worked as well.  experiement
 maybe you need keyboard remapping application.
[14:18] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: what is that?
[14:19] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: give me some sugestion
[14:22] <aqdhdzwty> help
[14:22] <aqdhdzwty> clear
[14:22] <aqdhdzwty> 0.2s lag
 software for mapping your keyboard, i have try on windows but i didn't know on ubuntu
[14:24] <fireman__> AraceliBradley: thx, I'll googling
[14:36] <dos> 123
[14:36] <dos> wtf
[14:36] <k1l_> !ask
[14:36] <cfhowlett> dos, no need for that - ask yur ubuntu questions
[14:47] <Mattx> Hello. What's the shortcut to show all workplaces? Like clicking on the workplace launcher
[14:48] <cfhowlett> Mattx, I'm on Ubuntustudio and can't test this but doesn't the Super key display all?
[14:48] <Mattx> no, it doesn't. it shows the app searcher
[14:49] <Mattx> I meant workspace by the way!
[14:50] <u0_a107> hello
[14:50] <u0_a107> testing
[14:50] <cfhowlett> !test | u0_a107,
[14:51] <Mattx> I cna't find that shortcut on the keyword shortcuts settings
[14:51] <Mattx> Any idea?
[14:52] <Mattx> not even how to change the number of workspaces
[14:54] <ioria> Mattx, SuperKey + S ?
[14:54] <Mattx> ioria, excellent! Do you know how to change that shortcut? I can't find it
[14:54] <ioria> Mattx, look at systemsettings -> keyborad -> shortcut
[14:55] <ioria> *keyboard
[14:56] <juanonymous> what does this command do, "cat | > /dev/null'
[14:56] <juanonymous> what does this command do, 'cat | > /dev/null'
[14:56] <debkad> nothing
[14:57] <k1l_> juanonymous: that command doesnt make sense.
[14:57] <debkad> cating what
[14:57] <debkad> and pipping+redirecting in the same time, hmm how brilliant idea is that
[14:57] <juanonymous> i duno
[14:58] <Mattx> ioria, it's not there I think, but I just found it on the unity tweak app
[14:58] <Mattx> thanks
[14:58] <juanonymous> its from the other guy's quit msg
[14:58] <ioria> Mattx, great
[14:58] <juanonymous> thank you btw
[14:59] <debkad> juanonymous: /dev/null is a monster
[14:59] <juanonymous> what does that means?
[14:59] <juanonymous> i mean /dev/null
[14:59] <debkad> it never stop, it eat everything come to it
[15:00] <debkad> when you want to redirect errors or things to /dev/null rather than stdout
[15:00] <juanonymous> i see ok
[15:01] <juanonymous> i do not know actually about both
[15:01] <juanonymous> hehehe
[15:01] <Mamiko> The null device is typically used for disposing of unwanted output streams of a process, or as a convenient empty file for input streams. This is usually done by redirection. The /dev/null device is a special file, not a directory, so one cannot move a whole file or directory into it with the Unix mv command.
[15:01] <juanonymous> /dev/null or stdout
[15:02] <debkad> juanonymous: when you type a command and see output in your console/terminal... this is called stdout
[15:04] <debkad> if i'm right, it is called standard output
[15:04] <ioria> juanonymous, try this:   ls pippo     and then :     ls pippo 2> /dev/null
[15:05] <fjaltring> Some PC's are sold with hybrid harddisk like this; 1 TB 5400 rpm SATA SSHD; Flash-cache: 8 GB. Is this seen as just one harddrive (with plenty of cache)? Any challenges when installing Ubuntu? I assume Ubuntu can benefit from this as well...
[15:05] <lubo_> hi
[15:05] <cfhowlett> fjaltring, install to one medium, use the other as data storage.
[15:06] <SwedeMike> fjaltring: I am using one of these in one of my media players. It's noticable quicker at starting things than with just regular HDD.
[15:06] <SwedeMike> cfhowlett: that's not how it works. It uses the SSD as a transparent flash-cache.
[15:06] <juanonymous> what does that mean ioria ?
[15:06] <SwedeMike> cfhowlett: ubuntu doesn't see any of the flash part, so it just works.
[15:06] <ioria> juanonymous, what's the diff ?
[15:06] <nikolam> can I install Ubuntu desktop (16.04.1) on ZFS?
[15:06] <juanonymous> wait
[15:06] <nikolam> (not server)
[15:06] <cfhowlett> thank you SwedeMike
[15:07] <ioria> juanonymous, in this case, you suppress the standard error
[15:07] <k1l_> nikolam: needs some manual work but yes: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS
[15:08] <sim667> Is this the wrong place to ask for a bit of help with apache2?
[15:08] <nikolam> I understand Server is now on ZFS by default, but desktop can use ext4/Btrfs by default, will check it out k1l_ :)
[15:08] <juanonymous> the one with 2> dev/null
[15:08] <k1l_> nikolam: no, you are wrong
[15:08] <juanonymous> doesnt show error
[15:08] <nikolam> Question is, if Ubuntu desktop is installe don ZFS, will that be supported config
[15:08] <k1l_> nikolam: ubuntu server is not on zfs by default.
[15:08] <nikolam> aha ok k1l_ thanks
[15:08] <ioria> juanonymous, yes,  pippo does not exist , so you got an error,  but if you redirect the error to /dev/null  ... you don't get the error anymore
[15:09] <k1l_> nikolam: ubuntu added the zfs module to be able to use it for storage and container usage.
[15:09] <nikolam> Ok, I would probably end up with Btrfs on this desktop, then, thanks.
[15:11] <fjaltring> SwedeMike so nothing special to do; I would just see on big disk and the SSD chunk is used for some clever caching of often used files?
[15:13] <SwedeMike> fjaltring: it tries to figure out what blocks are mostly read, and stores those in ssd so it can respond with those more quickly.
[15:14] <SwedeMike> fjaltring: so it looks like a 1TB SSD but some blocks are read without moving the HDD head.
[15:14] <SwedeMike> and respond much quicker.
[15:18] <fjaltring> SwedeMike: Clever! I will put that on my list for what to look for...
[15:19] <SwedeMike> fjaltring: yes, but it would be better if they put 32GB on there or something.
[15:20] <SwedeMike> but then again, the SSHDD only cost 10-20 USD more than the equivalent HDD, so I guess they were budget constrained
[15:21] <fjaltring> SwedeMike: I guess in a few years the HDD and the hybrid SSD harddrive will be a thing of the past, but for now 1 TB SSD is just to costly...
[15:22] <SwedeMike> fjaltring: yes, unless there is huge breakthrough and spinning metal goes to 20-50TB in same footprint/cost as today 8TB drives, SSDs are going to replace them across the board in 5-8 years. Already now they're replaced in the smaller storage space market, like 120GB cheap laptops.
[15:22] <SwedeMike> I checked a few months back, there were barely and HDDs left in that market (400-500EUR laptops)
[15:22] <SwedeMike> barely any.
[15:24] <FinalX> ugh; does anyone have a good example for doing (multiple, 2) nfs mounts through systemd and have them actually mounted at boot? i have a second network interface for an NFS VLAN, and they're not auto mounted, even though I can mount them just fine if I add a "up mount -t nfs -a" to eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces, or simply mount them through systemctl start mnt-whlcerts.mount after boot is done..
[15:25] <FinalX> it's starting to do my head in.
[15:27] <|VAH|-BlueTu> lol nuuuuubs
[15:27] <slidddis> How much disk space does ubuntu use installed?
[15:28] <FinalX> slidddis: depends on what you install; desktop environment recommends having 25GB free and installs a few GB. my server install is ~1 GB
[15:28] <k1l_> slidddis: you mean with a desktop? or the minimal install?
[15:29] <slidddis> normal desktop install. I have a tiny pc with a tiny disk of 16GB
[15:29] <bekks> slidddis: that will be enough.
[15:29] <k1l_> slidddis: that is enough to install a desktop and have still space left for data
[15:29] <merket> Hi
[15:30] <merket> have people?
[15:30] <slidddis> k1l_: whats included in minimal install?
[15:30] <slidddis> bloatware gone? (libreoffice?) :)
[15:30] <merket> e
[15:30] <k1l_> slidddis: minimal cli system.
[15:30] <merket> kan bu dong
[15:30] <merket> ...
[15:30] <k1l_> merket: english please
[15:31] <merket> ...
[15:32] <wer2> Need help installing scanner Brother mfc-215c; using ubuntu 14.04 amd64, sane 1.0.14-9; sane-find-scanner doesn't find scanner. What may be wrong?
[15:32] <merket> I am idiot
[15:33] <ioria> wer2 a lot of things ... :þ
[15:34] <ioria> wer2  i did it with this : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/15
[15:35] <UK> Hey
[15:35] <ioria> wer2  look at bottom, for 64-bit issues
[15:35] <UK> This chat is so dead
[15:35] <punkoivan> yep, we're zombie
[15:35] <merket> have people use raspberry pi
[15:36] <nicomachus> UK: because it's not a chat. It's a support channel. #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat.
[15:36] <UK> My school is dumb
[15:36] <UK> we used to have windows
[15:36] <UK> they changed it to pi
[15:36] <nicomachus> UK: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:37] <OerHeks> wer2, i remember something about 'add user to sane group' or scan group ..
[15:38] <ioria> OerHeks, scanner
[15:39] <OerHeks> ioria, ah you have answered with docs, missed that
[15:39]  * OerHeks bookmarks
[15:39] <ioria> OerHeks, ^_^
[15:39] <merket> 0.0
[15:40] <merket> Ubuntu is good.
[15:45] <DELDS> 0.0
[15:45] <k1l_> !ot | DELDS
[15:48] <lab> chamako
[15:52] <KaiserF50> Hi World
[16:00] <lubo_> hi
[16:03] <salamanderrake> anyone else here using skypeforlinux, still able to communicate with other people?
[16:05] <zach2825> salamanderrake, i do its a pain
[16:06] <salamanderrake> can you still talk to people, for me it shows everyone off line, but I can still do a skype call to my dad, but no text chat.
[16:06] <zach2825> im not sure if this will help but i have to run it after installing skype. in any skype chat type "/msnp24" without quotes and after its done restart skype
[16:06] <zach2825> from this page https://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-group-chat-not-working-anymore/td-p/3987288
[16:07] <zach2825> don't worry after you type that code and press enter the user will not see it. it runs locally
[16:08] <salamanderrake> zach2825: doesn't do anything for me
[16:08] <salamanderrake> just shows me available commands.
[16:10] <salamanderrake> zach2825: that is with skype 4.3 I am talking about the new skypeforlinux alpha.
[16:10] <jack_00000> hi
[16:16] <jair> hello everyone
[16:16] <jair> I have a X1 carbon laptop running ubuntu xenial, and I am wondering if I can make a bluetooth adapter work with my mouse
[16:17] <zach2825> salamanderrake, im stuck lol thats all i do just make sure to run /msnp24 by it self
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> jair: did you try blueman?
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> !blutooth | jair
[16:17] <zach2825> salamanderrake, im on skype version <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth
[16:18] <jair> lotuspsychje: I have it installed but it is strange
[16:18] <jair> failing
[16:18] <salamanderrake> zach2825: does it still work?
[16:18] <jair> well I it shows errors trying to connect
[16:19] <Ange7> hello  all
[16:19] <Ange7> i have a problem
[16:19] <Ange7> i want make : aptitude purge xfce4-?
[16:19] <Ange7> but i have error : zsh command not found
[16:19] <Ange7> i don't know why.
[16:19] <Ange7> someone can help me ?
[16:19] <jair> lotuspsychje: I am curious of why the PC is showing two adapters
[16:19] <zach2825> salamanderrake, yes it works for me
[16:19] <k1l_> Ange7: you are using zsh?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: tell us first what you wanna do
[16:19] <salamanderrake> I will try that one then
[16:20] <Ange7> i think i'm using zsh
[16:20] <Ange7> it's not my computer, it's work computer.
[16:20] <zach2825> salamanderrake, good luck
[16:20] <Ange7> i just want purge xfce4
[16:20] <salamanderrake> zach2825: have you tried skypeforlinux?
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> jair: what does the error say exactly?
[16:20] <k1l_> Ange7: that is not the ubuntu standard, btw. and aptitude is not installed as default on ubuntu
[16:20] <Ange7> so remove all package installed
[16:20] <k1l_> Ange7: use apt
[16:20] <Ange7> xfce4-*
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> Ange7: wich ubuntu version are you on exactly?
[16:20] <Ange7> 14.04
[16:20] <Ange7> how k1l_
[16:21] <Ange7> ?
[16:21] <jair> lotuspsychje: jair@x1:~$ hcitool dev
[16:21] <jair> Devices: hci1	44:85:00:73:70:6B
[16:21] <k1l_> Ange7: apt purge packagename
[16:21] <jair> lotuspsychje: does that mean I have a bluetooth adapter?
[16:22] <Ange7> i have many package install about xfce
[16:22] <Ange7> i want purge all
[16:22] <Ange7> and i want have only "terminal" application
[16:22] <jair> lotuspsychje: I will run the command blueman and paste the error
[16:22] <Ange7> not "konsole", "zsh", ...
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> !paste | jair
[16:24] <jair> sounds good
[16:24] <ChetManly> whtat is a good game in the repo to test multiscreen?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> ChetManly: maybe the #gamingonlinux guys might know that?
[16:27] <jair> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275779/
[16:27] <jair> lotuspsychje: it shows that is recognized, but I am moving the mice and does not work
[16:28] <jair> lotuspsychje: however I thought that the issue was the adapter so I bought an external USB bluetooth adapter
[16:29] <jair> lotuspsychje: in case of the one that I am currently using does not work
[16:29] <knightCorvi> it seems that I cannot join the ubuntu-offtopic channel, could anyone explain me why?
[16:30] <k1l_> knightCorvi: you need to have an freenode account registered and are logged in
[16:30] <k1l_> !register | knightCorvi
[16:31] <knightCorvi> I'm already registered though
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> jair: syslog spitting any errors about bluetooth?
[16:31] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hey nubs
[16:31] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hey nubs
[16:31] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hey nubs
[16:31] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hey nubs
[16:31] <|VAH|-BlueTu> hey nubs
[16:32] <jair> lotuspsychje: can check
[16:32] <jordila> if it's not a bad USB nor a bad ISO, what could be the cause of a 'Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs' while launching the 'Install' option on the LiveUSB session  ?
[16:34] <jair> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275803/
[16:34] <jair> lotuspsychje: those are some of the syslog messages
[16:35] <Morientes321>  Hi, I am trying to install the Microcore version from a Linux distro from a usb and when I have to chose the path to the iso file, which is on the usb I can't find it... can someone help me please? Thank you.
[16:35] <|VAH|-BlueTu> ypu suck
[16:35] <|VAH|-BlueTu> nubs lol
[16:35] <|VAH|-BlueTu> nubs lol
[16:35] <|VAH|-BlueTu> nubs lol
[16:35] <|VAH|-BlueTu> nubs lol
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> jair: this doesnt sound very good; Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> jair: Unable to register GATT service with handle
[16:37] <jair> lotuspsychje: hmm I don't recall having any kernel panic on the laptop
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> jair: sorry first line, wasnt for you
[16:37] <jair> lotuspsychje: :)
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> jair: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[16:38] <jair> lotuspsychje: latest
[16:38] <jair> lotuspsychje: xenial 64bit
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> jair: 16.04.1?
[16:38] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me check
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> jair  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> jair: perhaps this bug might be usefull? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1546603
[16:39] <jair> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275822/
[16:40] <jair> air@x1:~$ cat /etc/issue
[16:40] <jair> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:40] <jair> thanks
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> jair: perhaps try answer 3 & 4 from that bug?
[16:40] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me check
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> jair: might be interesting also to affect yourself to the bug, maybe more luck of solving
[16:43] <jair> lotuspsychje: what do you mean to affect myself?
[16:43] <jair> lotuspsychje: I will try #3 first
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> !bug | jair
[16:43] <jair> lotuspsychje: OK
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> jair: you can add yourself to a bug, when you have something similar happening
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> jair: more users affected, more chance of solving
[16:44] <jair> lotuspsychje: i see
[16:45] <jair> lotuspsychje: however I notice that I don't have a file "bluetooth" in /etc/default/
[16:45] <farakat> hey is it possible to get debian support here too, I'm unable to connect to official deb irc
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> !debian | farakat
[16:45] <farakat> :D alright
[16:46] <jair> lotuspsychje: am I missing a package?
[16:46] <Morientes321> Tell me please how to see if the usb is mounted ?
[16:48] <jair> lotuspsychje: am I missing a packet, because I don't have "/etc/default/bluetooth"
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> jair: perhaps it creates the bluetooth config after installing something
[16:49] <jair> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275855/
[16:49] <effectnet> hi every time the computer gets shut off, i lose my x settings for the 2nd monitor resolution
[16:50] <jair> Morientes321: if you run the command sudo mount you will see if the usb is there
[16:50] <k1l_> farakat: #debian or ##linux
[16:50] <farakat> alright
[16:50] <jair> lotuspsychje: I sent you the paste of the packages for bluetooth I have installed
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> jair: what happens on bluetoothd -E ?
[16:50] <farakat> thanks k1l!!
[16:51] <farakat> I was using old connection from wiki. looks like that's outdated
[16:51] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me check
[16:51] <Guest81984> hello world! i'm runnin' Ubuntu mate and miss kscreenserver, inside i need only kclock.kss - where can i find it?
[16:52] <jair> lotuspsychje: jair@x1:/etc/default$ sudo bluetoothd -E
[16:52] <jair> [sudo] password for jair:
[16:52] <jair> D-Bus setup failed: Name already in use
[16:52] <Guest81984> (This is uname -a delivering: Linux faith 4.4.0-38-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 6 15:42:33 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux)
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> jair: not sure mate,perhaps try to affect you to the bug see what happens after you add your story
[16:53] <jair> lotuspsychje: sounds good thank you
[16:53] <jair> lotuspsychje: let's see how can I find that
[16:53] <ppf> in a shell script, what's the simplest way to get the exact commandline with which it was run
[16:53] <ppf> ran?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> jair: or try the #4 answer config blueman?
[16:54] <Guest81984> note: thrusty had that kscreenserver (that could be installed via synaptic in my case)
[16:54] <jair> lotuspsychje: tried and that is what brought me to here
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> jair: effecting yourself to a bug is easy, just register at launchpad and affect yourself on the greeg line on top
[16:55] <jair> lotuspsychje: it shows that is recognized but it does not work
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> green
[16:55] <jair> lotuspsychje: cool
[16:55] <jair> lotuspsychje: thank you very much
[16:58] <Guest81984> kscreensaver again... any hint how to have it installed in xenial?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> !find kscreensaver
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> !info kscreensaver
[16:59] <Guest81984> MonkeyDust yes, i also could not find it, well it was "there" in thrusty, now i really miss it... in fact i only need kclock.kss...
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest81984  some packages and programs are removed from new ubuntu releases
[17:01] <jair> lotuspsychje: look at this ---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275886/
[17:01] <nacc> kscreensaver has been removed upstream (KDE itself)
[17:01] <jair> lotuspsychje: however the mice does not work
[17:01] <nacc> MonkeyDust: Guest81984: --^
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> jair: yeah, bug mentions the same, connected the device but stil doesnt work
[17:03] <jair> lotuspsychje: :(
[17:03] <Guest81984> MonkeyDust: Thanks, i'll try an other clock as screensaver, but there is no one as simple and pretty... (oclock, dclock... tried all of them. Moreover, i had the kclock as a screensaver, and cannot find a mate screensaver with a clock...)
[17:03] <Guest81984> nacc: Thanks!
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> jair: rfkill list, shows blocked bluetooth?
[17:04] <nacc> Guest81984: np
[17:05] <jair> lotuspsychje: let me check
[17:06] <Guest81984> jair: last days i had a problem with a M$ Designer Mouse, no chance to make it work with bluez, blueman, bluetooth, ... the point was to lsusb it and grep the dmesg to find the error, the error was pointing to firmware/driver...
[17:06] <jair> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275906/
[17:07] <Guest81984> (jair: i'll bring the mouse back, only chance)
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> jair: ok seems good
[17:07] <jair> lotuspsychje: however is not working no response :(
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> jair: i would go for the bug, or try purging all bluetooth programs and try ubuntu's bluetooth again?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> jair: but i presume it didnt work by default neither?
[17:08] <jair> lotuspsychje: which one will be the ubuntu's one?
[17:08] <jair> right
[17:09] <digitalw00t> So why would my 16.04 system just hang when I have my lid closed.  I told it not to do anything when on battery or when lid is closed.
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> jair: bluetooth deamon from services
[17:10] <jair> hmm
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> jair: perhaps check also your config files at /etc/bluetooth
[17:14] <NUTsTUN> I need some help with my dual boot system with Windows 10 and Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, is this a good place?
[17:14] <jair> lotuspsychje: ok
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | NUTsTUN
[17:15] <noob56k> hello
[17:15] <NUTsTUN> It's not about setting it up, its about an issue with my touchpad when switching from W10 to Ubuntu
[17:16] <noob56k> can somebody help ? i need to reset windows 10 password, any url to a good software for usb key ?
[17:16] <bekks> noob56k: Thats offtopic in here.
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> jair: interesting? https://vilimpoc.org/blog/2016/04/30/ubuntu-16-04-bluetooth-speakers/
[17:16] <bekks> noob56k: You may ask in ##windows
[17:16] <noob56k> ok
[17:18] <jair> lotuspsychje: checking :)
[17:18] <NUTsTUN> Can anyone help me? I've tried installing the Elan touchpad drivers, added i8042.reset to grub, and a few other things, but it never fixes the issue
[17:19] <anom> Hai
[17:20] <anom> I bought two of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P6O3YYO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 in hope of daisy chaining them with my laptop that runs ubuntu
[17:20] <anom> Do you know if there are any issues with unbuntu and daisy chaining? Can't seem to get it to work. q.q
[17:21] <nacc> anom: so one monitor works but the second doesn't?
[17:21] <anom> yeah, nacc
[17:21] <anom> the one connected to my laptop works
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> NUTsTUN: another option could be testing another kernel?
[17:22] <anom> but when when i switch the mode of the other monitor to mPD nothign shows
[17:22] <jair> lotuspsychje: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:22] <jair> lotuspsychje: worked my friend!
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jair
[17:22] <anom> "no mDP cable" :(
[17:23] <anom> do you think it's something to do with my laptops graphic card?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> dont know why its configged to autodetect false by default...
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> jair: maybe a security thing, dunno
[17:23] <NUTsTUN> lotuspsychje: I have, either it doesn't work or other outrageous issue arises
[17:23] <jair> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23275976/
[17:23] <jair> lotuspsychje: the only change was that in the main conf of the bluetooth directory
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jair: great for you!
[17:24] <jair> lotuspsychje: then restart it
[17:24] <jair> awesome awesome
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jair: perhaps add your experience to that bug how you solved to help the community?
[17:24] <jair> lotuspsychje: thanks to you for sharing that page
[17:24] <jair> lotuspsychje: absolutely
[17:24] <nacc> anom: what version of ubuntu?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jair: great tnx
[17:25] <jair> lotuspsychje: I will paste what I did then
[17:25] <jair> lotuspsychje: thanks so much
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> no sweat mate, not my find
[17:25] <jair> lotuspsychje: I have another laptop to pair and also a beats by dre to pair
[17:25] <jair> lotuspsychje: lets see if it works
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[17:25] <jair> lotuspsychje: thank you again
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> jair: welcome
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> NUTsTUN: syslog showing usefull errors on the touchpad?
[17:27] <nacc> anom: it does depend on some hardware support (displayport 1.2)
[17:27] <NUTsTUN> lotuspsychje: Any ideas? The issue only occurs when I switch from W10 to Ubuntu. After it boots to Ubuntu login, the pad doesn't work. However, if I restart, the touchpad works. All subsequent restarts are fine.
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> NUTsTUN: you mean you have only 1 boot that the touchpad doenst work?
[17:28] <anom> narcc, latest version, it's a zenbook 305, bought it last dec. will check if it has dp1.2
[17:28] <NUTsTUN> lotuspsychje: Yep, the first boot into Ubuntu after using windows.
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> NUTsTUN: can this help? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217553
[17:31] <Morientes321> Can anyone help me please with a question about TinyCore please?
[17:31] <nacc> anom: also: http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN295251/EN seems like it requires very specific monitor settings?
[17:31] <ouroumov_> !ask | Morientes321
[17:32] <nacc> Morientes321: although do you mean tinycore the distro?
[17:32] <nicomachus> having trouble getting YouTube videos to play in firefox. I'm asking the #firefox guys, but wanted to see if there's an ubuntu specific thing I'm missing. HTML5 is set to on.
[17:33] <Morientes321> nacc: yes please, sorry...
[17:33] <nacc> Morientes321: their webpage says use #tinycorelinux
[17:33] <nacc> Morientes321: this is the ubuntu support channel
[17:35] <Morientes321> :( no one is answering on #tinycorelinux
[17:37] <nacc> Morientes321: not really Ubuntu's fault or problem ...
[17:38] <Morientes321> :) Thank you nacc.. it's ok...
[17:47] <vikneshwar1> hi guys i have a weird issue , i just opened ubuntu today and found out ubuntu partition got utilized fully , here is the gparted screesnhot http://imgur.com/a/rBd7Q
[17:48] <vikneshwar1> i installed ubuntu like months ago , and never have much files in my system
[17:49] <vikneshwar1> my home folder is 25gb full , dont know how it shows it got utilized fully
[17:50] <\9> vikneshwar1: try use 'sudo apt clean' to remove old downloaded files
[17:50] <vikneshwar1> \9: what do u mean by old downloaded files ?
[17:51] <\9> old files downloaded by apt
[17:51] <\9> though i don't think there'd be 100GB of them
[17:51] <\9> try use the 'du' utility to find out where all the disk space is going to
[17:51] <vikneshwar1> \9: i just went to the root directory and started checking properties of each folder annd found out /var takes 80gb+ , then i started checking folders inside /var and found out /var/log is taking 80gb+
[17:52] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: are you booted into that system right now?
[17:52] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: yeah i am
[17:52] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: ok, that sounds like there was an error spamming your logs making it use all the space
[17:52] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: run "ls -alh /var/log"
[17:53] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: so can i delete all logs ?
[17:53] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: i would first look at what is going wrong there
[17:53] <\9> if there's a persistent error and it's spamming your logs, and then you just delete the logs, you'll just get spammed back again
[17:54] <\9> and then you won't have any logs :P
[17:56] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: \9 i can see kernellog and syslogs are taking gb's :( http://pastebin.com/Jkp9sDa8
[17:57] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: well, look at them what error is the issue there
[18:00] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: gedit gets hanged when i open it
[18:01] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: yeah, its too big for gedit. use something like tail or less on cli
[18:01] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: "tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog"
[18:02] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: let me check
[18:03] <dr4c4n_> so I downloaded the latest beta 2 of 16.10 ubuntu gnome, and I
[18:03] <dr4c4n_>                  tried installing it on my asus Zenbook pro ux501vw, the
[18:03] <dr4c4n_>                  Installer was great, seemed that everything was functioning
[18:03] <dr4c4n_>                  well, no loud fans, and the touchpad worked, when the
[18:03] <dr4c4n_>                  installer finished, it asked me to reboot which I did, I get
[18:03] <dr4c4n_>                  to the login screen, enter my password, and the computer
[18:03] <xangua> !16.10 | dr4c4n_
[18:05] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: sorry , i can see few errors , cant get whats the actual issue it , can u look into it ? http://pastebin.com/iSPbT1LL
[18:07] <dr4c4n_> xangua: I've tried multiple times to install ubuntu on my laptop, but either I've been getting the fans on really high, or no touchpad, do you have any suggestions as to what I could try?
[18:08] <xangua> dr4c4n_: /join #ubuntu+1
[18:09] <dr4c4n_> xangua: thanks, am in there, and i've posted to them, I'm wondering how to report what's happening with my laptop if there's an official way to do so?
[18:13] <alaa> hiiii my friend
[18:14] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: that tail command brings only the last 100 lines. run a "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:14] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, can you pastebin again ls -lSr /var/log
[18:14] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: or use that with the kernel log if there is too much uniteresting stuff in syslog
[18:19] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: here it is http://pastebin.com/huD5mtzi
[18:19] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: let me check
[18:20] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  ls -lSr /var/log (it will sort them by size)
[18:20] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: oops , sorry , will get that
[18:24] <UTAN_dev> Hey all. Years-long occasional Linux user here, who only started working remotely via VNC last week. (Linux laptop VNC server, Windows desktop VNC client) I was working remotely in display 1 and eventually discovered that the ssh-agent password prompt window had been appearing on display 0, the laptop's physical display.
[18:25] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: here it is http://pastebin.com/mi2MUWAy
[18:25] <andres_> amm
[18:25] <UTAN_dev> Is there a way to force programs to open windows on display 1?
[18:25] <vikneshwar1> \9: http://termbin.com/soww for syslogs
[18:26] <varox> ici si tie
[18:26] <andres_> 1 in Peru ?
[18:26] <cheryl> Hi everyone
[18:26] <andres_> Hello ?
[18:26] <nicomachus> !es | andres_
[18:28] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  you could clean up old gz files, I suggest keep up to 4 gz files to gain some space. You can also list by date (ls -ltr) to get rid of old entries.
[18:29] <catbadger> best ubuntu tablet, go!
[18:29] <nicomachus> catbadger: try #ubuntu-offtopic for that discussion please.
[18:30] <jabbott> hey, I plugged in my USB mouse and without even touching it, it's jumping around.  How do I remedy this?
[18:30] <Southern_Gentlem> dcon?
[18:30] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: fine :) what about the syslogs ,which takes more memory 25gigs =-O
[18:30] <Southern_Gentlem> jabbott, sorry i couldnt resist
[18:31] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  seems your wireless is dumping errors in syslog
[18:34] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: oh , i would , i had issue with my wlan , sometimes , network wont show there is a wlan , i thought there is a issue with my wlan hardware and bought a another wlan  receiver and plugged to USB
[18:34] <vikneshwar1> it*
[18:36] <maccam94> is it possible to install the 4.8 kernel on a laptop right now, or would that totally mess up the display stack?
[18:36] <k1l_> vikneshwar1: is linux-firmware-nonfree installed?
[18:36] <maccam94> (i'm on 16.04)
[18:36] <k1l_> maccam94: you can try the mainline kernels if you really want to
[18:36] <k1l_> !mainline | maccam94
[18:37] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  seems you need to configure your wireless differently. I searched for that error, I get 3 pages in French, I dont speak French
[18:37] <morf> /8/8
[18:37] <maccam94> i've got a skylake chipset and the system locks up when I try to attach a 4k display. supposedly there are fixes in 4.8. i'm aware of the mainline kernels, just wondering if those are server-only or if they might work on a system with a GUI
[18:38] <maccam94> i know the HWE packages backport the graphics stack as well
[18:38] <k1l_> maccam94: the HWE backports will still take some time. it will be the 16.10 kernel and xorg but 3 months after the 16.10 release
[18:39] <maccam94> yeah i know. again, just specifically wondering about compatibility between the kernel and the xorg drivers/drm/mesa packages
[18:40] <mcphail> maccam94: It is so easy to roll back from a mainline kernel that it is easiest to just try it. If you find you have to update mesa as well, it may be best to wait for the HWE
[18:41] <maccam94> kk
[18:41] <Estr> I'm having an issue when trying to boot ubuntu, I got dual booting "initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system." I've tried googling, most results were just "Put your usb in a 3.0" but I don't use an usb. It workde a week ago. Some other results told me to into bios and change some sata config thing to "IDE" which didnt work, and another result told me to enable IOMMU which is apparently not available on my motherboard
[18:41] <Estr> because it was not to be found anywhere in the bios. So now I'm lost and most of the results are greek to me..
[18:41] <mcphail> maccam94: there are mesa PPAs, but you'll end up inflicting pain on yourself in the long run
[18:42] <maccam94> yeah, i've run the intel linux graphics updater tool so i'm already going to a path to craziness >_>
[18:43] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: haha fine :) even i have issue with my wlan in windows , it even dint show up there so i bought a new receiver , BTW now i am connected to default wlan in my laptop (not the one i bought)
[18:43] <vikneshwar1> k1l_: sorry , can you throw some light on what is that ?
[18:43] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  software & updates, Additional drivers, maybe there is something there to fix your wireless?
[18:45] <pavlos> vikneshwar1,  you many need, sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:45] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: i just installed it
[18:45] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: btw , what is that
[18:46] <pavlos> my /var/log is about 4.9Megs
[18:46] <pavlos> firmware drivers
[18:46] <Derod> hey
[18:47] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: okay , so how did it work before even though i haven't installed the driver ?
[18:49] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, that I dont know, worked but dumped stuff in syslog ...
[18:52] <sophia7> saoijsdaf
[18:52] <maccam94> woot, the mainline 4.8 kernel seems to work with the intel graphics stack for 16.04. i can now drive a 4k display attached to my xps 9350
[18:52] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: fine :) i dont know why still  80+ gigs are getting used even though i deleted log files which occupied gigs
[18:54] <docmur> I setup a powerdns server in a VM at my house.  If use a machine inside my home network and set the server to either the external IP of my network OR the internal IP of that server and do lookup's for records I know that server has, I get the right responses.  If I use an external server, I'm getting request time out's.  I have port 53 opened though the router and firmware.  Using TCPDUMP with a port
[18:54] <sophia7> can you temporarily allow an inbound port with ufw?
[18:54] <docmur> filter, I can see when I make a request internally but not externally
[18:54] <pavlos> empty trash; du -sh /var/log
[18:58] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: thanks did:) just checked the /var size , its no more 1 gb , but my root directory still taked 80+ gb
[18:59] <sophia7> wtf is the new ifconfig thing replaced with? can't see my ip
[18:59] <nacc> sophia7: probably use `ip addr`
[19:01] <sophia7> nacc: thank you young sire, I'll hand out some candy to ya some day from my van in grattitude
[19:01] <sophia7> gratitude indeed
[19:01] <nacc> um
[19:01] <nacc> sophia7: yw?
[19:03] <sophia7> command < file .... will ignore keyboard input?
[19:03] <sophia7> I accidentally pressed a button :D
[19:03] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: its crazy that ls on / show most of the directory occupying 4.0KB http://pastebin.com/FP27YRPL
[19:03] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, use the 'du -h -d1 /' to find big dirs (the d1 is depth 1)
[19:04] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, ls tells you the dir entry is 4K
[19:04] <nacc> vikneshwar1: you're mistaking ls's output for disk usage
[19:05] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, most dirs in / show as 4K
[19:06] <ioria> vikneshwar1, use du -sh /folder
[19:06] <sophia7> k, so, everyone, listen up! I am here to negotiate peace between the worlds. They've said this: fu 'yall, but I'm suggesting this: there shall be peace between the races.. blacks keeps to themselves, and whites to themselves and everything will be fine. No wars needed.
[19:06] <nacc> !ot | sophia7
[19:07] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: nacc ok so what's the diff between dir entry and  disk usage
[19:08] <nacc> vikneshwar1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186813/why-does-every-directory-have-a-size-4096-bytes-4-k
[19:08] <nacc> vikneshwar1: basic fs definitions
[19:09] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, man df and man du
[19:09] <vikneshwar1> nacc , pavlos thanks will check that
[19:10] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, most commands have a man page, it is helpful
[19:11] <catbadger> @nicomachus is this just for supporting people who are too lazy to RTFM then?
[19:11] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, also you seem to be logged as root ... be careful
[19:12] <nicomachus> catbadger: that and more advanced stuff. There are language guidelines.
[19:12] <nacc> catbadger: this is a support channel, not a channel to find opinions
[19:12] <catbadger> yeah so i'll just take my decade of linux experience and eff off then sorry i broke your "RULES"
[19:13] <nicomachus> ok bye.
[19:13] <nacc> wow
[19:17] <nvidia> hello, to all
[19:17] <nvidia> i had instal ubuntu and win7 on diferent partition, i had must re-instal windows and now i don`t get anymore the boot menu when i start the pc. (windows run first, i don`t get the "choode" os to start) what can i do to get again the "choose os" menu ?
[19:19] <lapion> is anyone of libparted in here ?>
[19:19] <nicomachus> nvidia: do you have an ubuntu live USB or CD lying around?
[19:20] <nvidia> nicomachus i have CD.
[19:20] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: yeah, i just logged in as root to delete those big log files
[19:20] <nvidia> instaled on the partition
[19:20] <nicomachus> nvidia: boot that up, open a terminal, and run boot-repair
[19:21] <nvidia> and then i must get again the "choose OS" right ?
[19:21] <nicomachus> nvidia: yes, that should restore Grub2 so you can choose your OS when you boot
[19:21] <pavlos> vikneshwar1, you can type sudo rm <bigfile> Staying as root, you might do other rm you did not intend to do ...
[19:22] <nvidia> perfect. thank u very muuch., have a nice chat. cheers
[19:23] <vikneshwar1> pavlos: thanks , know about sudo , logged into root , so that i dont need to type sudo  each time , anyway logged out of root already :)
[19:24] <lifted> Question - I am attempting to install a PHP app on my otherwise-Rails server... and I have my subdomain setup, all looks well... but when I access the domain, index.php will not actually execute! I can definitely download files, so I know it's not an nginx config issue. It has to be PHP...
[19:24] <sophia7> test
[19:25] <sophia7> can you run a tftp server withouht a deamon?
[19:25] <sophia7> tftpd requires you to config and blah blah
[19:26] <Southern_Gentlem> sophia7, sorry i dont see the need for an ftp if you can ssh into the box, if you can ssh you can scp
[19:26] <sophia7> I cannot.
[19:27] <sophia7> the tftpd for updating the firmware of my dildo (not trolling)
[19:27] <sophia7> tftpd seems to support such a mode though, -i option
[19:27]  * Southern_Gentlem walks away from that one
[19:27] <sophia7> oh, yeah, because I said dildo. What are we? 12 years old?
[19:28] <sophia7> if someone has a dildo, they must OBVIOUSLY be trolling... sigh
[19:28] <OerHeks> sophia7, the kind of question makes me think you are trolling. please keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[19:28]  * nicomachus has never heard of firmware on those types of devices...
[19:28] <sophia7> OerHeks: I know it does, because people are so sensitive in here to everything.
[19:28] <sophia7> nicomachus: it has a really nice interface and usb connection for remote controlling :)
[19:29] <nicomachus> can you not update the firmware over USB?
[19:29]  * jmw wonders what new features the firm...ware update includes
[19:29] <sophia7> I meant to say WIFI
[19:30] <nacc> keep in mind, sophia7 just went offtopic a few minutes ago ...
[19:30] <nicomachus> ok. so what is you're trying to setup here? a tftp server?
[19:30]  * jmw also wonders if it was part of the recent DDOS on Krebs, heh
[19:30] <sophia7> I can even link it and prove it.  All I'm asking is: how do I run a tftp server, and you're on about my dildo still.
[19:30] <nicomachus> jmw: no need for comments if you aren't helping with the technical issues. be adult about it.
[19:30] <jmw> 10-4
[19:30] <ioria> !info tftp
[19:30] <nicomachus> sophia7: I would start here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/201505/how-do-i-install-and-run-a-tftp-server
[19:31] <nacc> sophia7: just install tftpd-hpa,
[19:31] <sophia7> keep in mind: you asked, I replied. I'm not just here casually trolling.
[19:31] <k1l_> sophia7: if you would not trying so hard to make it a drama we could actually work on the technical issue.
[19:32] <sophia7> k1l_: I would like to. It's really easy for you guys: stop bringing it up.. don't even comment this comment and we're all set and can move on. It's a dildo, k.. now let's move on and focus on the technical issue. You're the ones overly fascinated by it, not me.
[19:33] <nacc> sophia7: install tftpd-hpa
[19:33] <nicomachus> sophia7: we shared a couple links. do those help?
[19:33] <sophia7> looking on it
[19:33] <sophia7> looking on the hpa option
[19:33] <sophia7> it needs configuraiton :p
[19:33] <nicomachus> sophia7: you're going to have to do some config work
[19:34] <sophia7> why is it that all the server applications always wants a configuration file and daemon status? Why can't they just "share" the directory specified by the command line?
[19:34] <nicomachus> sophia7: because there are other tools for that. like rsync
[19:35] <nacc> iirc, you can just pass some basic arguments to in.tftpd and run it in the foreground
[19:35] <ChetManly> anyone know why my nvidia-settings has no options in it?
[19:36] <nk109> is anyone having problems getting google chrome from google's ppa? http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ started returning a 404 a half hour ago
[19:36] <ChetManly> got three cards, binary in, no options in the settings
[19:37] <sophia7> nacc: I read that too
[19:37] <atello> nk109 it's 404 for me as well
[19:37] <ChetManly> three screens two cards*
[19:37] <HighPriest> hi
[19:37] <ChetManly> seems like there is overscan on the screens as well since window title bars go off the screen
[19:37] <nicomachus> nk109: 404 here too. check with the guys in their channel or just give it a wait.
[19:38] <nk109> nicomachus: thanks for confirming. what channel is their's?
[19:39] <obelix_> list
[19:39] <nacc> sophia7: i'd check the manpage, it's pretty trivial; iirc, you could also look at xinetd's conf for the same and it shoud show you an example commandline
[19:39] <OerHeks> obelix_, here > http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:39] <pavlos> nk109, https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[19:40] <gebruiker> what is the difference between make - clean ; mrproper ; distclean ?
[19:40] <nacc> gebruiker: depends on the Makefile
[19:41] <gebruiker> nacc, it is the linux kernel makefile
[19:41] <nacc> gebruiker: then the appropriate channel to ask is a kernel-related channel.
[19:41] <nacc> gebruiker: you can see what the difference is by examining the Makefile, though
[19:41] <sophia7> nacc: I've checked both manpage and info, haven't found such a thing yet
[19:41] <pavlos> gebruiker, these are labels in the Makefile, look at the Makefile to see what each label does
[19:42] <nacc> sophia7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TFTP should be mostly accurate, a swell
[19:42] <C0r3> If I want to make my usb stick bootable so that I will be able to boot into a UEFI system. How am I supposed to do it?