[19:32] <ClydeSlims> ioria, well I mean I'm just looking for a driver that will best suit my card for maximum performance. AMDGPUPro seems to be the only official driver out there for 16.04LTS, yet it shows up as "Unknown" when I install it.
[19:32] <ClydeSlims> Or I don't think it shows up at all, because I think the "unknown" driver is the one that came with ubuntu?
[19:33] <ClydeSlims> There's only 1 driver that shows up and it's that one in "Software and Updats
[19:33] <ioria> ClydeSlims, but not by the AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta ... maybe you're talking about the fgrlx in trusty
[19:33] <ClydeSlims> I was in 16.04LTS
[19:33] <ClydeSlims> Not 14
[19:34] <ioria> uL4m0G,  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:34] <ClydeSlims> I think fgrlx isn't supported anymore
[19:34] <ioria> ClydeSlims,  in trusty, yes until 2019
[19:34] <uL4m0G> ioria, too late, i already click "upgrade" to 16.10
[19:34] <ClydeSlims> ioria, so I should install ubuntu trusty then?
[19:34] <uL4m0G> :>
[19:34] <ioria> uL4m0G,  ok :þ
[19:35] <ioria> ClydeSlims,  as i said, your card it's supported by the open sopurce driver in xenial .... but i don't know you needs
[19:36] <ClydeSlims> ioria, okay so say it's supported then. The open source driver in xenial AMD calls "AMDGPU Pro". I installed that. But the only driver that shows up in "Software & Updates" is "Unknown". Shouldn't there be two? "Unknown" and "AMD GPU Pro" ?
[19:36] <ClydeSlims> Or is it not possible to answer without running that command you asked for before
[19:37] <ioria> ClydeSlims,  what ubuntu are you on now ?
[19:37] <ClydeSlims> ioria, Windows right now. Waiting to see which ubuntu is good for me to install for my graphics card.
[19:37] <ClydeSlims> I guess trusty is the answer.
[19:38] <ioria> ClydeSlims,  i see... yes, you can try both :þ and see ...
[19:38] <ClydeSlims> ok.
[19:45] <c0mrade> I've just inserted an Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS DVD into my server and I have many installation options, one of them is Install Ubuntu Server with HWE kernel
[19:45] <c0mrade> What does that mean?
[19:45] <kostkon> !hwe
[19:45] <tehmal> Hi
[19:45] <tehmal> Cannot install Ubuntu 17.04
[19:46] <c0mrade> Okay, I still didn't get it.
[19:46] <tehmal> https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f6522c299be01bb9051aac29f9490fa03d7e46afd543308c421172a95e7c289.png
[19:46] <ioria> c0mrade, i don't rememember that option, but in xenial should mean that it will install the yakkety kernel
[19:46] <tehmal> any ideas?
[19:47] <c0mrade> So what's the difference? How would it differ to me? Why would I choose that option over the standard "Install Ubuntu Server" option?
[19:47] <ioria> c0mrade, xenial 4.4 ; yakkety 4.8
[19:47] <c0mrade> Why would ubuntu provide you that option of either installing with latest kernel or an older one?
[19:48] <ioria> c0mrade,  are you installing the server edition of xenial ?
[19:48] <c0mrade> Shouldn't you just install it right away? There's something to it...
[19:48] <c0mrade> It's Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS 64bit amd and it's the server edition.
[19:49] <ioria> c0mrade,  i'd say, stay with 4.4 ...
[19:50] <c0mrade> I don't get it though.
[19:50] <ioria> c0mrade,  you can always upgrade later
[19:50] <c0mrade> Why is there this option.
[19:50] <ioria> c0mrade,  i don't know
[19:50] <c0mrade> But why not use it straight away.
[19:50] <c0mrade> That's what am trying to know.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> tehmal:  check your installation partition
[19:51] <ioria> c0mrade, oh right 14.04.02 ...
[19:51] <tehmal> BluesKaj: is correct /dev/sda1
[19:51] <ioria> c0mrade, 14.04.02 comes with yakkety
[19:51] <tehmal> 16.05 installs correctly
[19:51] <tehmal> 04
[19:52] <ioria> c0mrade, 16.04.02, i  mean
[19:52] <marvin2> I am in some corner situation where "prog &" doesn't work, and I need "tobackground prog" equivalent. is there such a thing?
[19:52] <ioria> c0mrade, you want 16.04 not 16.04.02
[19:53] <c0mrade> I am installing 16.04.2
[19:53] <ikonia> marvin2: I think someone gave you the best answer in ##linux
[19:53] <c0mrade> I get the point now after googling...
[19:53] <c0mrade> Ubuntu will offer at least two kernels: the General Availability (GA) kernel, i.e. the most stable kernel, which does not get updated to point releases; and the Hardware Enablement (HWE) kernel, i.e. the most recent kernel released.
[19:53] <ikonia> marvin2: it's not how emacs_client works
[19:53] <c0mrade> The HWE uses a kernel version which is not the current stable one...
[19:53] <c0mrade> I'll use the normal option thanks.
[19:54] <ioria> c0mrade, 4.4 right
[19:54] <marvin2> ikonia I would prefer not to continue that discussion in here as well
[20:05] <joeelectricity> so im trying to install libssl-dev on 14.04 LTS, but am getting 404'd
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> 404, as in 'webpage not found'?
[20:06] <ikonia> the repos will 404
[20:06] <joeelectricity> mhm
[20:06] <ikonia> look at what repo you are using
[20:07] <joeelectricity> It's failing to find http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl-doc_1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.21_all.deb
[20:09] <ikonia> joeelectricity: apt-get update
[20:09] <ikonia> that package has been changed
[20:09] <ikonia> go one level up in the browser and you'll see
[20:09] <joeelectricity> doh
[20:09] <joeelectricity> thanks
[20:13] <zik> hello. i have a problem with an ubuntu installation
[20:13] <maarhart> Please help me go back to the login screen. Startx --> unity works. But I can't get to the login screen.
[20:13] <ikonia> why are you running startx
[20:13] <ikonia> it should boot the greeter when you start the machine
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> zik  let's hear it, in one line
[20:13] <zik> whenever i reboot, the speakers make a loud exploding sound
[20:13] <zik> system is Intel NUC. didnt have that problem with windows
[20:14] <zik> fresh 17.04 install
[20:14] <maarhart> ikonia: I'm not getting the greeter.
[20:14] <ikonia> maarhart: what is happening
[20:15] <maarhart> I think nothing. But I can get to the tty's. Let me reboot and check
[20:16] <maarhart> ikonia: give me a sec
[20:16] <zik> you there monkeydust?
[20:17] <SummerRain> In my desktop theres an icon called : "Reserved by the system", its a hard disk icon.
[20:17] <SummerRain> i cant remove it
[20:17] <SummerRain> how can i do it ?
[20:17] <maarhart> ikonia: Btw, I also have gdm3. But i have dpkg-reconfigured it so lightdm starts
[20:18] <maarhart> ikonia: I get all the text... e.g. mounted Mount unit for core.
[20:18] <SummerRain> no one ?
[20:19] <maarhart> ikonia: I also get "ERROR @wl_notify_scan_status :"
[20:19] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Have you tried "sudo service lightdm restart" => that should take you to tty7 (graphical) with a login screen...
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> SummerRain  repeat your question every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[20:19] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: I think so,yes
[20:20] <ikonia> maarhart: look at the xorg logs
[20:20] <maarhart> Where are they?
[20:20] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: I'll assume you're trying it NOW, right?
[20:20] <maarhart> Yep.
[20:21] <SummerRain> In my desktop theres an icon called : "Reserved by the system", its a hard disk icon. i cant remove it...
[20:21] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: I just go back to that text screen with the mounted stuff and that error I mentioned
[20:21] <ikonia> maarhart: look at the xorg logs
[20:21] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Then try hitting CTRL+ALT+F7
[20:21] <ikonia> clear them down, reboot and watch how it fails to start from the greeter
[20:21] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: nothing
[20:22] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Then as ikonia just stated
[20:22] <maarhart> ikonia: where are those?
[20:22] <ikonia> maarhart: /var/log
[20:23] <maarhart> ikonia: I remove all those xorg logs and reboot?
[20:23] <SummerRain> why ubuntu wont allow for you to remove desktop icons
[20:23] <SummerRain> seriously
[20:23] <ikonia> maarhart: seems a good way to get a clear log
[20:23] <SummerRain> gonna have to format it to reinstall just because of this
[20:23] <SummerRain> pff
[20:23] <YankDownUnder> SummerRain: If the icon is called "System Reserved" - what does INTUITION tell you about that icon?
[20:24] <SummerRain> tells me that the icon came from the start menu
[20:24] <SummerRain> when i was trying to bring firefox icon instead
[20:24] <maarhart> ikonia: okay. Please hold on. I'm rebooting
[20:24] <YankDownUnder> SummerRain: So obviously you made some type of mistake.
[20:24] <SummerRain> so blame me for ubuntu not being able to remove a shortcut icon
[20:24] <SummerRain> lol
[20:24] <SummerRain> blame the user.
[20:25] <YankDownUnder> SummerRain: We all make mistakes, I'm not blaming you - however, since you're being passive/agressive about it, why don't you go and install a nice fresh version of Windows?
[20:26] <SummerRain> make me.
[20:26] <ikonia> SummerRain: please calm down
[20:26] <ikonia> we are here to help you if you can
[20:26] <SummerRain> i am calm
[20:26] <SummerRain> the fanboy is just triggered.
[20:26] <ikonia> no
[20:27] <ikonia> please stop with comments such as "fan boy"
[20:27] <ikonia> if you want a change to functionality log a bug
[20:27] <freddyP> sudo rm -rf / will remove a lot so using that syntax you can pretty much remove anything
[20:27] <ikonia> however keep in mind that the 18.04 version will drop untiy
[20:27] <ikonia> please ignore that command anyone
[20:27] <SummerRain> if you tell a user to install windows due to a critic, then you are obviously a fanboy
[20:27] <maarhart> ikonia: okay, now there are no x logs
[20:27] <ikonia> maarhart: then xorg is not set to start
[20:27] <ikonia> so I suspect your greeter is not enabled at startup
[20:28] <ikonia> SummerRain: no, thats not true but YankDownUnder's comment was also uncalled for
[20:28] <maarhart> Ikonia: just to let you know, i still get the "ERROR @wl_notify_scan_status :"
[20:29] <SummerRain> Hes just triggered cuz he never learned to use windows.
[20:29] <ikonia> maarhart: where ?
[20:29] <ikonia> SummerRain: ENOUGH now
[20:29] <YankDownUnder> ikonia: Yes, my comment was. I apologise for that. I shan't remove my "ignore", however. Too old for kiddie stuff on a Sunday morning.
[20:29] <ikonia> SummerRain: I'm pretty sure he can use windows, and I have no idea why that even matters if he could or couldn't
[20:29] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: appreciated,
[20:29] <nbastin> Does anyone know how to get 14.04 server to install using a serial console?
[20:29] <SummerRain> kiddie stuff. yeah right.
[20:29] <nbastin> I hacked up isolinux, but apparently insufficiently
[20:30] <maarhart> ikonia: in the screen with the [    OK     ] lines
[20:30] <bekks> nbastin: Like this?: http://pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=E25612E9-84F0-4DCF-A876-1E92FD1D065C
[20:30] <ikonia> maarhart: I'd need more context, but from what you've said xorg isn't starting at all, which suggests to me your greeter isn't set to start at start up
[20:30] <nbastin> bekks: except that I have an iso, not a syslinux unetbootin image
[20:30] <SummerRain> Going to leave, obviously this chat is filled with wannabe trolls.  If you are so stressed in a sunday, your lfie must SUCK
[20:30] <SummerRain> CYA
[20:30] <maarhart> Ikonia: is there any way I can send you a picture?
[20:30] <SummerRain> ban me if u want
[20:30] <SummerRain> dont care
[20:31] <ikonia> maarhart: use an image bin
[20:31] <shabaan> i need serial code for pixeluvo, i have installed but its not active
[20:31] <zigford> System Reserved may be a mounted volume from a previous windows install which is why it can't be removed.
[20:31] <blackbird1> Hi
[20:31] <bekks> nbastin: well, that howro starts with an ISO as well.
[20:31] <nbastin> bekks: so I don't have syslinux.cfg, for one...I get to the stage where it tries to load the bootlogo from isolinux
[20:31] <geirha> zigford: too late, he rage quit
[20:32] <maarhart> Ikonia https://imagebin.ca/v/3JC1FV7BTkQz
[20:32] <nbastin> bekks: sure, but it makes a live usb stick, which I can't feed to the machine
[20:33] <blackbird1> I installed opencv 3.2.0, but when I execute a python script i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24389546/
[20:33] <nbastin> bekks: http://www.fantaghost.com/ubuntu-server-10-10-headless-installation-via-serial-console is similar to what I did, just with an old version - I'm wondering if there are new problems because 14.04 started trying to use the framebuffer console
[20:33] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: So that is the screen you're currently staring at, yes?
[20:33] <ikonia> maarhart: thats a disk being slow/failing ot mount
[20:33] <ikonia> nbastin: that depended on the non-graphical installer
[20:33] <ikonia> nbastin: thats no longer available
[20:33] <maarhart> ikonia: Context is: upgraded to ubuntu 17.04. Installed gnome 3 based on the link provided here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-17-04, then tried logging to gnome on wayland. Nothing happened so I rebooted.
[20:34] <nbastin> ikonia: hrm?  I mean we install non-graphical all the time
[20:34] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: indeed
[20:34] <nbastin> ikonia: curses, but not...vga
[20:34] <ikonia> nbastin: how the alternative CD is no longer available with curses based installer,
[20:34] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: As ikonia stated...
[20:35] <maarhart> ikonia: just one disk. It's a laptop
[20:35] <nbastin> ikonia: I'm confused, I installed 14.04 earlier with the curses installer
[20:35] <nbastin> although perhaps the boot screen was not curses-based...hrmph
[20:35] <nbastin> but the actual install was
[20:36] <maarhart> ikonia: any suggestions?
[20:36] <nbastin> ikonia: so you're saying there's basically no way to install server without video?
[20:36] <ikonia> nbastin:you can use the unattended install
[20:37] <ikonia> nbastin: I'd be interested in how you launched the curses based install
[20:37] <nbastin> ikonia: ugh, I can't, because I can't guess the device names
[20:37] <nbastin> ikonia: this is all so I can write a preseed file..
[20:37] <ikonia> yeah preseed should work
[20:37] <maarhart> ikonia: ?
[20:37] <nbastin> ikonia: but it won't if you don't know the disk device names
[20:37] <blackbird1> any help please
[20:37] <nbastin> ikonia: which is why I was trying to start a serial installer so I could look
[20:38] <arch92> what's going in, blackbird1?
[20:38] <maarhart> ikonia: I still see the same thing. But I can go to a tty
[20:40] <blackbird1> arch92, I installed opencv 3.2.0, but when I execute a python script i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24389546/
[20:40] <ikonia> maarhart: what did I stell you to do
[20:40] <maarhart> ikonia: you just said: 23:33 ikonia: maarhart: thats a disk being slow/failing ot mount
[20:41] <ikonia> oops
[20:41] <baye> salut
[20:41] <ikonia> maarhart: sorry, I didn't mean to kick you
[20:41] <hvsk> hello all
[20:41] <ikonia> maarhart: totally my fault,
[20:41] <maarhart> Np
[20:42] <ikonia> maarhart: I hit an up arrow with my finger while typing you name, really sorry, my fault
[20:42] <baye> quelqu'un parle le français ici?
[20:42] <maarhart> ikonia: no problem
[20:42] <ikonia> maarhart: thank you
[20:42] <ikonia> !fr | baye
[20:43] <maarhart> ikonia: in any case, the last thing you told me about my issue is: 23:40 maarhart: ikonia: you just said: 23:33 ikonia: maarhart: thats a disk being slow/failing ot mount
[20:43] <maarhart> Oops sorry. I pasted more than needed
[20:43] <ikonia> maarhart: I told you about the xorg problem
[20:44] <ikonia> I've not looked at your disk problem
[20:44] <maarhart> ikonia: right. So back to the xorg problem.
[20:45] <maarhart> So there is no x log yet
[20:45] <Somelauw> In nautilus (or at least the default file browser), how can I add folders to that sidebar on the left?
[20:45] <ikonia> right, and I've told you why maarhart
[20:45] <ikonia> (or at least why I think why)
[20:46] <Somelauw> I would expect to drag the folder there, but that doesn't work? Otherwise I would at least like to make a bookmark to that folder.
[20:46] <maarhart> ikonia: Right, because x is not called. But I wouldn't know how to proceed
[20:47] <maarhart> ikonia: sorry if that is not what you said or meant
[20:49] <maarhart> ikonia: Should I run startx to get a log? Or should I somehow try to ensure that x is set to run upon boot?
[20:50] <blackbird1> I installed opencv 3.2.0, but when I execute a python script i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24389546/
[20:51] <Somelauw> Hmm, nautilus seems a bit limited. I couldn't find a graphical way to create a symlink. Even windows makes that easy.
[20:51] <Somelauw> nvm, I found the option, it's create link
[20:51] <urotkoy> hi, can anyone help me out with mounting, i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
[20:52] <urotkoy> i have an ext4 partition on /dev/vdb1
[20:52] <fadavi> hello there. i've many errors in journalctl :( please help me to solve them. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24389616/
[20:52] <urotkoy> i can't seem to mount it and write to it
[20:52] <nbastin> oh good the debian installer still works
[20:53] <ikonia> maarhart: the greeter is not set to start at boot most likley
[20:54] <maarhart> ikonia: do you know how to set it?
[20:54] <maarhart> ikonia: FYI I do see the ubuntu logo
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> ni
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> aaaa
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> asdasdas
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> adasda
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> qwdqwd
[20:55] <ubuntu-mate> c
[20:56] <urotkoy> can anyone help?
[20:56] <bekks> urotkoy: So how do you try to mount it?
[20:57] <jney> hi
[20:57] <urotkoy> i tried both with xfce's file manager and in the terminal with: sudo mount /dev/vdb1 /home/user/Data
[20:57] <RBoreal_Frippery> How can you autocomplete the location bar in nautilus? For example, you do CTRL+L to type, and then do ~/.con
[20:57] <RBoreal_Frippery> pressing TAB in terminal will complete this to ~/.conf
[20:57] <bekks> urotkoy: and whats the output of that sudo command?
[20:57] <RBoreal_Frippery> how can you get this functionality there?
[20:57] <urotkoy> nothing, it seems to be mounted but i can't write there
[20:57] <arch92> blackbird1, would you tell me version of python are using?
[20:58] <bekks> urotkoy: so whats the output of "mount" now?
[20:58] <blackbird1> arch92, Python 2.7.12
[20:58] <jney> since ubuntu 16.10 i've got a problem with  my backlight which randomly changes. is it the good place to ask support for this ?
[20:59] <urotkoy> there is no output, bekks
[20:59] <blackbird1> arch92, when I user python 3, it becomes worst
[20:59] <maarhart> ikonia: lightdm.log is all the time being updated: https://imagebin.ca/v/3JC9I74Y9pV8
[20:59] <blackbird1> use*
[20:59] <arch92> blackbird1, try installing libopencv-contrib-dev and libopencv-dev
[20:59] <urotkoy> it asks for a password, i write it and it's done, no output
[20:59] <bekks> urotkoy: so pastebin the output of "dmesg" plase, and provide the URL here.
[21:00] <arch92> maybe it can help you to fix your problem
[21:00] <ikonia> maarhart: look inthe xsession logs then
[21:00] <ikonia> it says in that output thats where it's writing to
[21:01] <blackbird1> arch92, libopencv-contrib-dev is already the newest version (<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1).
[21:01] <arch92> and libopencv-dev are installed too?
[21:01] <blackbird1> arch92, libopencv-dev is already the newest version (<IP_ADDRESS>+dfsg-1.5ubuntu1).
[21:01] <urotkoy> bekks: https://pastebin.com/hdQUjsJi
[21:02] <bekks> urotkoy: As you can see, its perfectly mounted, you just dont have permissions on that mountpoint since it is owned by root.
[21:02] <urotkoy> uhm, the place where i mounted it
[21:02] <bekks> urotkoy: Correct.
[21:02] <urotkoy> is in my regular user's home directory
[21:02] <arch92> blackbird1, try following this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19164343/opencv-libopencv-core-so-2-4-cannot-open-shared-object-file-no-such-file-or
[21:02] <bekks> urotkoy: which doesnt mean you have user permissions on the drive mounted.
[21:02] <gredjok> once somebody here suggested a pdf editor with no gui, it has to be started from the shell. It allows to increase/decrease/trim pdf files. Not page by page, but bulk (for 300 pages, for example) I forgot its name.
[21:03] <bekks> urotkoy: check with ls -lha
[21:03] <urotkoy> oh right, it says root root for that folder
[21:03] <blackbird1> arch92, the file "/etc/ld.so.conf.d/opencv.conf" doesn't exist
[21:03] <maarhart> ikonia: https://imagebin.ca/v/3JCAp1l42j2k
[21:04] <arch92> give a second
[21:05] <urotkoy> bekks: when i unmount the rights to that folder are back to my user
[21:05] <urotkoy> what do i need to do
[21:06] <ikonia> maarhart: look at the time stamp on that file, is it current
[21:06] <ikonia> maarhart: I need you to start actually thinking about the process you are doing and not just posting screen shots
[21:06] <maarhart> Not really.
[21:06] <bekks> urotkoy: you need to mount it, and grant permissions on tha folder and all subfolders.
[21:06] <urotkoy> with chown?
[21:06] <maarhart> ikonia: I know, but I haven't been rebooting in a long time
[21:07] <ikonia> maarhart: so if those logs are out of date, they mean nothing
[21:07] <bekks> urotkoy: Is that an empty drive? Or is it a full blown install from another system?
[21:07] <maarhart> ikonia: in any case I'm clueless.
[21:07] <urotkoy> yes
[21:07] <urotkoy> just created it with gparted
[21:07] <bekks> urotkoy: then you can use sudo chown
[21:08] <maarhart> ikonia: I wished there was a way to start the greeter, change to unity, reboot.
[21:08] <ikonia> maarhart: ?
[21:08] <ikonia> maarhart: the greeter is not starting....
[21:08] <maarhart> ikonia: but maybe that doesn't help
[21:08] <ikonia> maarhart: you need to look at the logs to see it trying to start and understand what's stopping it completing
[21:08] <ikonia> looking at old logs don't help, so clear them down to remove confusion
[21:09] <maarhart> ikonia: does running startx help here?
[21:09] <maarhart> ikonia: or x or xinit
[21:10] <ikonia> maarhart: no
[21:10] <ikonia> it confuses things and adds no value
[21:10] <maarhart> ikonia: okay, I will reboot and see if there is any .xsession-errors
[21:11] <maarhart> ikonia: by the way, is it correct to look for the xsession errors in my home folder?
[21:11] <arch92> blackbird1, I don't have idea about this, but you can read on github https://gist.github.com/dynamicguy/3d1fce8dae65e765f7c4 and https://github.com/opencv/opencv_contrib
[21:11] <arch92> I'm sorry
[21:12] <ikonia> maarhart: yes, as it should be your session afte you login
[21:12] <ikonia> maarhart: it's possible it's trying to start and auto login
[21:12] <maarhart> ikonia: thanks for making me think.
[21:12] <rx-determine> hello
[21:12] <blackbird1> arch92: Thanks for help :)
[21:13] <maarhart> ikonia: not sure if I followed you with your last comment
[21:13] <ikonia> just work it through if you're not sure
[21:13] <arch92> yep
[21:14] <sinthetek> i'm experiencing an issue with my audio in 16.10/17.04
[21:14] <maarhart> Okay now I get in the [   OK   ] screen "ERROR @wl_notify_scan_status : executable binary formats"
[21:15] <sinthetek> my system appears to pseudo-randomly make a tapping noise for no apparent reason since upgrading from 16.04 this morning
[21:16] <rx-determine> is that normal or hacking activitys
[21:16] <maarhart> ikonia: ok. After rebooting I don't have xsession nor xorg error logs.
[21:16] <fadavi> hello there. i've many errors in journalctl :( please help me to solve them. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24389616/
[21:16] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: When you're seeing that screen, have you tried hitting CTRL+ALT+F7 to see if you get a graphical login ---> have you tried that yet?
[21:16] <ikonia> maarhart: ok, so that suggests its not even trying to start as I said at the very beginning
[21:16] <ikonia> maarhart: so enable the greeter to be a boot time start up
[21:18] <sinthetek> as soon as rebooted for 16.04->16.10 upgrade, the noise started at the login screen. i immediate updated repos and began the 17.04 upgrade but the sound persists after the next update. it is emitted both through internal sound and through hdmi when I set it as primary output. anyone know of this issue?
[21:18] <maarhart> ikonia: and how do you enable it? I can also start googling about it. Unfortunately I'm using a phone at the moment
[21:19] <ikonia> maarhart: you need the service name and just use systemctl enable $service_name
[21:19] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: yes. CTRL ALT F7 shows me the screen with the [   OK   ] lines.
[21:20] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: So then CTRL ALT F1 is your tty1 login, yes?
[21:20] <arch92> blackbird1, I found this http://docs.opencv.org/trunk/d7/d9f/tutorial_linux_install.html
[21:20] <pvl1> hey everyone, it seems as tho dhclient stopped setting a default gate, but does set a route. what is the difference between dhclient and dhclient-script? and how can i set the latter to be the default
[21:20] <Annoyverklone> ubuntu-indonesia
[21:21] <maarhart> ikonia: the service would be unity-greeter?
[21:21] <ikonia> maarhart: come on - I just said "YOU" need to find it out
[21:21] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: indeed
[21:21] <blackbird1> arch92, I'm on it :) thanks a lot
[21:21] <ikonia> maarhart: if I had it to hand I'd have given it you
[21:21] <arch92> blackbird1, ok :)
[21:21] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Login to that...and what happens when you run: sudo service lightdm start
[21:21] <maarhart> ikonia: I was just checking before making mistakes :P
[21:25] <maarhart> ikonia: Okay. I don't know what is the name of the greeter service and google didn't help. Trying YankDownUnder's suggestion
[21:26] <ikonia> systemctl list-unit-fils type=service
[21:26] <ikonia> look it up
[21:26] <ikonia> maarhart: you need to google for the right questions
[21:26] <ikonia> eg: how to list systemd files
[21:26] <ikonia> not "what is the name of the lightdm greeter service"
[21:26] <maarhart> You got me ikonia
[21:26] <FManTX> is systemd used in 16.04?
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: There's also : sudo systemctl start multi-user.target
[21:27] <ikonia> FManTX: yes
[21:27] <ikonia> YankDownUnder: won't work if it's not enabled for multi-user
[21:27] <ikonia> which reading about how dpkg-configure works, it may not have linked it
[21:27] <gredjok> I downloaded and installed krop from http://arminstraub.com/downloads/krop/krop_0.4.12-1_all.deb. I saved the file to my home dir. I clicked on it to install. It installed. Are these 2 assumptions correct? 1. krop was automatically installed in the directory where all other deb files are installed. 2. I no longer need to keep the .deb file and if krop releases an update it will be downloaded automatically.
[21:27] <ikonia> gredjok: we don't know where it was installed
[21:28] <ikonia> gredjok: thats up to the person who packages it
[21:28] <gredjok> ikonia, a , ok
[21:28] <maarhart> ikonia: 0 unit files listed.
[21:28] <EriC^^> gredjok: if it created a .list in /etc/apt/source.list.d/ it'll update itself with apt
[21:29] <ikonia> maarhart: that seems unlikely
[21:29] <EriC^^> (usually)
[21:29] <EriC^^> *sources.list.d
[21:29] <Sparrow_> gredjok, no to both questions
[21:30] <maarhart> ikonia: but that's what I get from sudo systemctl list-unit-files type=service
[21:31] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: none of those suggestions helped, unfortunately. Everything remains the same. No errors, nothing.
[21:33] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Just for a bit of "history" about this issue - was this system configured - at any point in time - to be a single user system - or, please tell - how did it come about that you were using "startx"?
[21:33] <Oerheks> maybe this is the correct command > sudo systemctl list-units --type=service
[21:33] <Oerheks> this :  sudo systemctl list-unit-files type=service  # give me 0 files too
[21:35] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: nope. I was using startx because it wasn't launching the login manager
[21:35] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: And this is all from a fresh installation?
[21:36] <EriC^^> maarhart: did you try manually starting the login manager or checking the logs in /var/log ?
[21:38] <maarhart> I'll answer the questions in a second. Could anyone kindly confirm that lightdm.conf should look like this https://imagebin.ca/v/3JCKiDvPdsPN ?
[21:39] <EriC^^> maarhart: that looks ok, it says to auto-login your user
[21:39] <AceKing> Hi everyone. I did a fresh install of 17.04 64 bit on my PC yesterday. I have two ethernet ports. One to connect to the internet, the other is a shared port. I cannot get the shared port to connect. I've been trying since yesterday but can't figure it out.
[21:39] <EriC^^> maarhart: try sudo systemctl start lightdm
[21:39] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: as I said before, I upgraded to 17.04, then installed gnome 3.24 based on this link http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-17-04 and then tried unsuccessfully to login using gnome on wayland
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> ...or "sudo service lightdm start"
[21:39] <gredjok> when is 17.04 gonna be released?
[21:39] <iresf> hello
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Right oh.
[21:40] <dax> gredjok: already released
[21:40] <maarhart> Eric: which logs exactly?
[21:40] <EriC^^> maarhart: /var/log/lightdm/*
[21:40] <iresf> i changed localhost ip in hosts file to my local ip <IP_ADDRESS>   and  in phpstorm i want to connect to  DB but  it failed because of localhost 's ip  any sulotion ?
[21:41] <maarhart> EriC^^: your systemctl suggestion didn't work. It doesn't throw errors either
[21:42] <EriC^^> maarhart: try systemctl status lightdm
[21:43] <Oerheks> look at the owner of .Xauthority, is it owned by root?
[21:43] <maarhart> EriC^^: its active and running
[21:43] <EriC^^> try Oerheks ' suggestion
[21:44] <maarhart> I own it. It's -rw--------------
[21:44] <EriC^^> maarhart: let's establish if lightdm can run, try sudo nano .../lightdm.conf and remove your username next to autologin
[21:44] <Oerheks> oke mv .Xauthority .Xauthority.bak   # and hit ctrl alt F7 again :-)
[21:45] <Oerheks> no you don't own it.
[21:45] <maarhart> Okay which one should I try first?
[21:46] <maarhart> EriC^^ or Oerheks ?
[21:46] <maarhart> I'll go with Oerheks
[21:46] <ramrebol> Hola. Alguien sabe como grabar una pelicula que esta en un dvd a un pedrive para verla en una tv?
[21:47] <EriC^^> !es | ramrebol
[21:47] <maarhart> Oerheks: nothing regarding your suggestion
[21:48] <ramrebol> ubottu: thanks, I thought that I was in a spanish channel :X
[21:48] <maarhart> EriC^^: should I remove my username next to autologin-user ?
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Yes...
[21:49] <maarhart> And then reboot or restart the service?
[21:49] <ramrebol> Hello. Somebady knows how to burn a movie from a dvd to usb memory for watch the movie in a tv?
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Just restart the service
[21:49] <AceKing> Can someone help me to get a shared wired connection to work? I created a shared connection but it does not connect
[21:49] <maarhart> It worked :)
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Good. You're buying the donuts this morning.
[21:50] <maarhart> EriC^^: now I'm in the greeter :)
[21:50] <Sparrow_> ramrebol, usb tool in menu
[21:50] <maarhart> Donuts and beer. Depends on your time zone
[21:51] <maarhart> EriC^^: Is this it?
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: I don't drink alcohol, so you can buy the donuts - non-meat, vegetarian and vegan. Yep. :)
[21:51] <Sparrow_> ramrebol, usb image writer tool in menu
[21:52] <maarhart> YankDownUnder: I'll learn how to make ascii donuts. Then get banned from here
[21:52] <nomic> O
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Good on ya! :)
[21:52] <nomic> ^ ascii donut
[21:53] <nomic> o <- smaller one
[21:53] <ramrebol> thanks Sparrow_ . I'm searching how to use now
[21:53] <nomic> 0 <- one with fat outside
[21:54] <l33n> pm2 list does nothing but print a new line
[21:55] <maarhart> Okay I'm trying rebooting.
[21:57] <maarhart> Thanks guys.   But she has to get used to it anyway
[21:57] <gogeta> maarhart, unity is dead
[21:57] <rp2> dead?
[21:57] <maarhart> I mean to gnome 3. Anyway she just uses firefox
[21:57] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Women *always* find a reason - whether one exists or not. Buy her a donut.
[21:57] <gogeta> gnome 3 next relese
[21:58] <rp2> there's plenty of choice on Ubuntu. I've always hated Gnome but there's plenty more
[21:58] <YankDownUnder> Gnome = "Gee! No Me!" (I've used that since the demise of 1.4.8) hehehehehe
[21:58] <maarhart> I'm afraid of screwing everything up again if I choose gnome on wayland. Any reason for this not working?
[21:59] <rp2> I haven't tried Wayland
[21:59] <FManTX> try xfce
[21:59] <rp2> or LXDE
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> or WindowMaker
[22:00] <maarhart> And why does the battery icon looks so bad in gnome 3?
[22:01] <YankDownUnder> maarhart: Just find a nice Gnome3 icon set/theme that makes the missus happy...easy done, end of story. :)
[22:01] <gogeta> well linux is all about choice
[22:02] <gogeta> gnome 3 has inproved sense its early days now very custmisable
[22:02] <maarhart> I mean, it looks ugly. Glitchy
[22:02] <maarhart> I'm sure it shouldn't look like that
[22:03] <gogeta> you can change its look now and now its relly not glitchy
[22:03] <maarhart> Okay then something is not working as it should
[22:03] <gogeta> before you could not change anything and thats what enraged the linux communty
[22:03] <gogeta> ?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> gogeta: Yeah...like in 1992/3...
[22:05] <gogeta> https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/ord/top/
[22:05] <gogeta> plenty of themes you can change to
[22:06] <FManTX> browse those cats
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> CATS? Someone's being mean to cats?????
[22:06] <gogeta> gtk3 is gnome 3
[22:07] <gogeta> you can make it looks like osx even unity
[22:07] <gogeta> or anything else
[22:07] <YankDownUnder> OSX = macOS - ahem...
[22:08] <YankDownUnder> The ultimate paradox - getting rid of Unity for Gnome3 and then turning Gnome3 into a "Unity look-alike" ....erf...
[22:09] <gogeta> i relly food linux theme is newmix
[22:09] <gogeta> good
[22:09] <maarhart> Okay. I was using the ubuntu icons in gnome 3. That's why it sucked
[22:09] <gogeta> even a ppa for that one
[22:09] <YankDownUnder> "Food" theme? Hmm...have to suss that out...
[22:09] <guvn0r> o gawd
[22:10] <gogeta> the newmix theme
[22:10] <gogeta> te one they use in manjaro
[22:10] <gogeta> numix
[22:11] <gogeta> https://itsfoss.com/install-switch-themes-gnome-shell/
[22:11] <gogeta> hear is a nice guide
[22:11] <gogeta> and even some apps to make it easy
[22:12] <yesimon> I did a fresh reinstall of 17.04 to resolve some issues yesterday. Installed playonlinux and osu which spew out a few errors, and now my nautilus shows a moveable black screen kinda like wine's desktop?
[22:12] <yesimon> Not sure what to do
[22:13] <gogeta> well playon should noot brake thing
[22:13] <YankDownUnder> yesimon: And you've asked in #playonlinux for resolutions to the issue or tips on what it could be? (sounds "graphics" related)
[22:13] <gogeta> things
[22:13] <yesimon> Actually it fixed itself...
[22:13] <yesimon> But it was really quite bizarre
[22:13] <gogeta> sounds like osu did something
[22:14] <yesimon> Yeah I removed all playonlinux virtual drives
[22:14] <gogeta> yea playon is self contaned wine i bet your wine app crashed but wine was still running
[22:15] <yesimon> I tried looking for wine in ps aux didn't find anything
[22:15] <yesimon> Can it be named anything else?
[22:15] <gogeta> du ps -A
[22:15] <gogeta> do
[22:15] <yesimon> Actually I'm going to try this again to see if it's reproducible
[22:15] <gogeta> list everything
[22:16] <gogeta> sudo ps -A
[22:16] <gogeta> will list every prosses running
[22:16] <yesimon> Yes what am I looking for?
[22:16] <gogeta> anything with wine
[22:17] <yesimon> Nothing
[22:17] <gogeta> well you said its fixed now
[22:17] <yesimon> It's fixed now - will retry this process
[22:17] <gogeta> it probly closed
[22:17] <maarhart> What are the original fonts and sizes of gnome 3?
[22:17] <gogeta> sometimes wine is smart enough to see it crashed and kill itself sometimes now
[22:18] <maarhart> I'm not going to use ubuntu fonts...
[22:18] <gogeta> not
[22:26] <denis> hello
[22:26] <gogeta> lol
[22:26] <yesimon> Reinstalled - fewer errors this time and didn't mess up nautilus :)
[22:27] <Guest35981> heyo
[22:27] <Guest35981> Is anybody here
[22:27] <Guest35981> ?
[22:28] <gogeta> i see 1795 so yea people are hear lol
[22:29] <YankDownUnder> The question is actually "relative".
[22:29] <gogeta> lol
[22:30] <gogeta> returned to hibernation
[22:30] <gogeta> lol
[22:32] <YankDownUnder> Since a question wasn't asked, I shall return to morning coffee and a fresh cigarette. Very entertaining that.
[23:01] <laserbeak4445> Hi
[23:01] <laserbeak4445> I need help guys!
[23:02] <laserbeak4445> I'm having a OpenVPN DNS Leaks issue with the new default systemd-resolved in 17.04
[23:02] <laserbeak4445> Is there way to make 17.04 resolve DNS the way it was done on 16.10?
[23:06] <Moude> hello
[23:24] <edgy1> Is it at all possible to get precise repositories working on ubuntu Edgy Eft?
[23:24] <gogeta> umm no
[23:24] <gogeta> not without blowing up your system
[23:24] <edgy1> >:C
[23:25] <edgy1> edgy repositories went away
[23:25] <edgy1> are they archived anywhere?
[23:25] <gogeta> upgrade??
[23:25] <edgy1> no, i want to keep edgy
[23:25] <Bashing-om> !edgy | edgy1
[23:25] <gogeta> any reasion
[23:25] <edgy1> if the edgy repos are archived anywhere id like to know where they are
[23:26] <glitchd> how can i create a rar file from and iso and have it split in 100mb parts?
[23:26] <glitchd> *an
[23:26] <edgy1> gogeta: because why not, that's why!
[23:27] <gogeta> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[23:27] <gogeta> edgy1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[23:27] <gogeta> also shows you how to enable the legicy repo
[23:28] <edgy1> thank you gogeta
[23:28] <gogeta> edgy1, but why stay on old uncecure linux
[23:29] <edgy1> because i want to
[23:29] <edgy1> i have xenial on another laptop :)
[23:29] <edgy1> i like edgy
[23:29] <gogeta> oof its becouse of gnome 2 check out ubuntu mate
[23:29] <gogeta> if
[23:29] <gogeta> the fork of gnome 2
[23:30] <marvin2> using plain ubuntu 16.04. how can I let window manager allow emacs to handle M-F4 rather than handling it itself?
[23:31] <edgy1> gogeta: 1. it is NOT bcause of the DE. 2: i HATE mate because it is very slow an dlags. but thank you for helping :)
[23:31] <edgy1> btw gaim internet messenger is quite the IRC client :P
[23:32] <implite> i use hexchat
[23:32] <gogeta> edgy1, the slowness isnt mate its 16.04 slow mesa stack you can fix it with the oibf drivers
[23:32] <edgy1> litterally everything is slow and crashy, and it will never be as stable as authentic gnome 2. also I like edgyyyyyyyy :D
[23:33] <gogeta> edgy1, i thought that to unledd i put oibf on the netbook
[23:33] <gogeta> untill
[23:33] <edgy1> hmm
[23:33] <edgy1> i like unity for new computers though :)
[23:33] <edgy1> or else gnome 3
[23:34] <kerash> I like the gsetting interface for gnome
[23:34] <gogeta> edgy1, now its nearly as fast as a arch setup :)
[23:35] <ramrebol> to write a movie in a pendrive (for whats in a tv), its enogh to write the iso in the pendrive, or I need to burn otherwise (like the iso of ubuntu)?
[23:35] <gogeta> edgy1, the bottleneck in 16.04 is a very slow 2d/3d mesa stack
[23:35] <edgy1> yeah got it working :) thanks
[23:37] <gogeta> edgy1, oibs is like adding a turbo to 16.04 lol if your using open drivers
[23:37] <gogeta> oibf
[23:37] <gogeta> edgy1, https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[23:38] <edgy1> so oibs would speed up my unity too?
[23:38] <gogeta> edgy1, if your using 16.04 and open drivers yes
[23:38] <gogeta> and 16.10
[23:38] <edgy1> is it on the xenial repositories?
[23:39] <gogeta> edgy1, that link has a ppa for xenial
[23:39] <gogeta> edgy1, you dont need the wine bits of course
[23:40] <gogeta> edgy1, just add the paa and run a upgrade
[23:40] <edgy1> oh ok
[23:40] <gogeta> edgy1, it will add the newer unbroken mesa stack
[23:41] <gogeta> edgy1, then reboot enjoy the fixed drivers
[23:41] <tgm4883> edgy1: to be clear, you aren't installing anything called oibaf. You're installing updated packages that were created by a third party named oibaf
[23:41] <edgy1> oh,,,,,,
[23:41] <edgy1> hmm
[23:41] <gogeta> edgy1, yes its just updated and optmised mesa
[23:41] <dax> which, notably, are not officially supported here
[23:43] <gogeta> well anything you add is unsupprted but trust me it makes all the diffrence
[23:43] <edgy1> **all the difference between edgy and xenial**
[23:43] <edgy1> hahaha
[23:43] <gogeta> yea
[23:44] <mears11> hey, I upgraded a machine from Ubuntu Server 16.10 to 17.04 this morning and am having some boot issues.  Every time I boot, I keep getting disk timeouts that look like:
[23:44] <mears11> Apr 15 17:34:57 nfs-master systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2duuid-9e7e6bcc\x2d6620\x2d4625\x2dabca\x2da45ebffd4e15.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-9e7e6bcc\x2d6620\x2d4625\x
[23:44] <mears11> Apr 15 17:34:57 nfs-master systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-9e7e6bcc\x2d6620\x2d4625\x2dabca\x2da45ebffd4e15.device.
[23:45] <mears11> -- Unit dev-disk-by\x2duuid-9e7e6bcc\x2d6620\x2d4625\x2dabca\x2da45ebffd4e15.device has failed.
[23:47] <gogeta> edgy1, all you need is the basic usbage bit
[23:47] <edgy1> oh hi finetundra
[23:47] <gogeta> usage
[23:47] <mears11> At that point, I’ll be prompted to go into emergency mode or can press ctrl-d to continue booting.  If I do the latter, everything starts up fine.  I also have no issue booting into “run level 3”.  I’ve tried changing the order of mounts in /etc/fstab.  Previously, I was getting the error with /dev/mapper entries, so I switched to UUIDs, but it didn’t help
[23:48] <Finetundra> Hello edgy1
[23:48] <gogeta> edgy1, becouse i installed ubuntu mate on my netbook very slow to do anythig updated the mesa stack snappy as hell :)
[23:48] <edgy1> Finetundra: whatcha doing in here?
[23:48]  * Finetundra shrugs
[23:49] <Finetundra> I just loaded up an old OS install and the client autoconnected at startup
[23:49] <edgy1> ah
[23:49]  * edgy1 pm's finetundra
[23:52] <gogeta> edgy1, but if your hardware is just relly old you can try out stuff like puppy dsl and tinycore
[23:53] <edgy1> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[23:53] <gogeta> lol
[23:53] <edgy1> i HATE pupy linux
[23:53] <edgy1> AND tinycore
[23:53] <gogeta> lol
[23:53] <bazhang> edgy1, what support issue did you have
[23:53] <gogeta> we fixed it :)
[23:53] <gogeta> he nedded legicy repos
[23:53] <edgy1> bazhang: repository issue
[23:53] <bazhang> lets take chatter to another place
[23:54] <edgy1> ok, ill join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <fre54321> uh bazhang, what again was the offtopic chanel again? i forgot


[03:59] <vorlon> juliank: I wasn't meaning to add the rls-mm-incoming tag, I was deleting the block-proposed-mantic tag but apparently raced mclemenceau deleting the rls-mm-incoming tag :P


[16:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> hii all! how's everyone? I have a few small things in my TODO list for Lubuntu. but I am super busy past since some time and will be for next few months. I would like someone to take up those tasks. reply to this message if you are interested. I would like if it's someone new, I can sponsor them. tasks are just some small nitpicks here and there.
[16:03]  * The_LoudSpeaker tags teward for reasons. XD
[16:04] <teward> *declares war for reasons*
[16:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> also what is that grammar "past since some time" *facepalms*
[16:04] <teward> you need the caffeines :)
[16:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> I sure do.
[16:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, no world wars. if you want to fight, go play valorant.
[16:07] <teward> i'mma wage temporal war in Star Trek Online - so close enough :P
[16:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> star trek isn't so popular here in the east.
[16:08] <teward> i'm an old gamer of this :P
[16:08] <teward> but for now, meh.
[16:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> neither is star wars. I honestly don't even know the difference.
[16:08] <teward> i'll have a gaming computer for the powerful stuff later
[16:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> valorant doesn't need a gaming computer. I run it on my laptop which doesn't have a dGPU.
[16:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> btw where's our old man wxl? doesn't appear in users list.
[16:10] <teward> busy
[16:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> ohh. convey to him that his pupil misses him.
[16:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> maybe send a pigeon mail. that ought to reach him.