[09:31] <Corvinis-L> what would you guys recommend as remote admin tool windows -> linux  (If it all possible a portable client would be nice)
[09:31] <omegacenti> wow.
[09:31] <vontux> ZubZ^: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/devicename /media/devicename
[09:31] <khermans> Corvinis-L, vnc
[09:31] <vontux> !fstab
[09:31] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:32] <khermans> Corvinis-L, tightvnc is a good implementation
[09:32] <scales> khermans: and it says that must be run as root
[09:32] <magnetron> HBBM: ask your question here. if i know the answer, i will answer. maybe some1 else will know
[09:32] <tawanda> hie all 1000 0f you
[09:32] <omegacenti> Corvinis-L: I agree with khermans  on tightvnc.
[09:32] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: computer is being very uncooperative.
[09:32] <scales> khermans: it is a .run package
[09:32] <Corvinis-L> how' s it's resource usage khermans?
[09:32] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: how so?
[09:32] <khermans> scales, yes its a driver installation, use sudo
[09:32] <Jordan_U> ZubZ^, Look at the link from Ubotu, it will tell you how to enable read / write on all NTFS partitions, internal and external, automatically
[09:32] <enry> ok i was right
[09:32] <barbarianhero> barbarianhero: for some reason now the live cd won't even boot.
[09:33] <barbarianhero> oh wait im talking to myself
[09:33] <khermans> Corvinis-L, i find it to be very useful and quite efficient
[09:33] <Tom47> corvinis-L freenx is very useful if speed od display is important
[09:33] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: for some reason now the live cd won't ven boot
[09:33] <vontux> !rc.d
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <ZubZ^> Jordan_U, yeah, allready on it.. thanks ;)
[09:33] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I've done the same thing lol
[09:33] <vontux> !rcS.d
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcs.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <enry> the reinstallation of gRub DIDN'T thake effect
[09:33] <vontux> !rc
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <enry> take
[09:33] <vontux> !rcS
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <tawanda> hie i'm a newbie could someone please help me with my resolution
[09:33] <Jordan_U> !botabuse
[09:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:33] <vontux> would rcS be the file to place a command I want to be started at boot?
[09:33] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: hmm.. shouldn't be having to do with editing xorg.conf... thats weird.
[09:34] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: might be unrelated ( I hope it is!)
[09:34] <Corvinis-L> mmm well i need it to be available for both linux so I guess tightvnc would be the best choice
[09:34] <khermans> vontux, rc.local
[09:34] <Tom47> !frenx
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frenx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <_Codeman_> Do you ppl hate me :P
[09:34] <Jordan_U> tawanda, What kind of card? ( nvidia, intel, ati )
[09:34] <Jordan_U> ?
[09:34] <Tom47> !freenx
[09:34] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:34] <tawanda> intel
[09:34] <rooly> grr
[09:34] <magnetron> !botabuse > Tom47
[09:34] <rooly> anybody know how to get windows to show up in grub?
[09:34] <vontux> khermans: what does rcS do anyway?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Have you tried installing 915resolution?
[09:34] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah i really dunno why that would be unless the 915resolution screwed something up in the bios
[09:35] <MacDrunk_> any idea on how to run samba
[09:35] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: maybe i should do a bios reset
[09:35] <tawanda> jjordan i dont know how to
[09:35] <khermans> rooly, add an entry?
[09:35] <Tom47> magnetron pls explain how my usage was abuse please
[09:35] <rooly> don't know what i'm doing, and the documentation i've found doesn't explain anything
[09:35] <tawanda> yesterday some guys pretended to try and help me and they hacked me
[09:35] <tawanda> had to reinstall linux
[09:35] <khermans> macd, sudo aptitude install samba
[09:35] <magnetron> "Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots" said ubotu, Tom47
[09:35] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: 915resolution is not a permanent change. it is only a dynamic reallocation. NOTHING permanent about it.
[09:36] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable universe
[09:36] <Tom47> magnetron nonsense
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok thats odd then...i can't boot from the live cd anymore now either
[09:36] <tawanda> ok jordan let me try
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i.e. even the 'safe graphical mode' fails
[09:36] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: that is WEIRD
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah im starting to get freaked out lol
[09:36] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: tell  me the monitor still works :)
[09:36] <magnetron> Tom47: i will not discuss this
[09:36] <MacDrunk_> hey i can see my linux laptop on my windows network window but i can access
[09:37] <rooly> don'tcha hate it when you get a corrupted burn, and try to install, but end up completely screwing your system?
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> how do i set  up permision on my linux lap
[09:37] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah it seems to work fine, im able to get into the shell fine
[09:37] <khermans> macd, check out /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:37] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Then either search for 915resolution in System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, or just run: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> ok
[09:37] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: just can't start xorg at all from live cd or from hd
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> well i did that on a console terminal whit commands and wont work
[09:37] <HBBM> magnetron, I use 7.04, but the pctel don't work. There is a opition to see the modem, it's a proprietary modem, there says pctel in use, but don't work.
[09:37] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: sure its even trying the live cd?
[09:38] <khermans> MacDrunk, or System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[09:38] <vontux> is there a laptop battery module that ubuntu needs to efficiently use the battery on centrino boards?
[09:38] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Tightvnc displays this info for the linux version of tightvnc: Fedora core 6 .rpm ..... does it matter ?
[09:38] <rooly> so
[09:38] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah im getting the 'run install from livecd' 'run in graphic safe mode' etc... menu on the splash screen
[09:38] <omegacenti> Does freeNX have a server for windows computers?
[09:38] <rooly> no help from #grub
[09:38] <magnetron> MacDrunk_: there is an option in the menu called "Shared folders" or similar
[09:38] <khermans> vontux, dunno but you can reconfigure the gnome battery applet to be on demand
[09:38] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: did you try run install from live cd?
[09:38] <MacDrunk_> well  yea
[09:39] <rooly> ...
[09:39] <rooly> how long is the line for help?
[09:39] <khermans> Corvinis-L, i thought you wanted to install on windows, which is an EXE not RPM
[09:39] <vontux> khermans: "on demand"?
[09:39] <magnetron> !patience
[09:39] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:39] <MacDrunk> i have two shared folder
[09:39] <rooly> hahahaha
[09:39] <khermans> vontux, yeah, you can select what Mhz you want
[09:39] <MacDrunk> but how do i set up read and write options
[09:40] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: that is how i isntalled originaly, now it won't boot off the live cd
[09:40] <rooly> it's only that it's 2 am, i'm gonna be out-of-town all day tommorow and the day after, so i'd like to get my boot loader working asap
[09:40] <Corvinis-L> khermans > I said windows and linux..... so on both pc's a server and a viewer
[09:40] <omegacenti> khermans: I have actually been needing that could you tell me how?
[09:40] <ZubZ^> khermans,  and Jordan_U ... its workings... thanks alot!!!
[09:40] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: unless i choose 'graphical safe mode' then i get 'can't start Xserver' and it fails and drops me to a shell
[09:40] <khermans> MacDrunk, you must investigate smb.conf  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[09:40] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try running that option to see something.
[09:40] <vontux> khermans: ah, so like it will keep the cpu at a certain speed just as the centrino chip is able to be adjusted?
[09:40] <rooly> barbarianhero:
[09:40] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Sorry if it sounded vague
[09:40] <rooly> that happened to me a few times
[09:40] <khermans> Corvinis-L, a VNC server is built into Gnome
[09:40] <MacDrunk_> ok
[09:40] <MacDrunk_> i will
[09:40] <rooly> do you have 2 video cards?
[09:40] <MacDrunk> iwill
[09:40] <omegacenti> khermans: I have actually been needing that could you tell me how? the whole on demand thing.
[09:41] <Corvinis-L> oh ic....
[09:41] <khermans> vontux, yea
[09:41] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah thats what im picking...it starts 'main: errors initalizing udevd socket: Illegal seek' [fail]  then ever is ok
[09:41] <vontux> khermans: so does it also have the ability to be set up so if it is plugged in it would use full cpu power?
[09:41] <bss> hey does anyone know how i can save changes after editing grub at boot ?
[09:41] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: sounds like its a problem with the drive, not the xorg.
[09:41] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: then i get Umcompressing Linux ... Ok, booting the kernel. next message is : kill: Could not kill pid '3565': No such process
[09:41] <Corvinis-L> khermans > I can combine tightvnc with the gnome vnc server ? Is there a viewer so I can check out my windows machine from linux ?
[09:42] <Ra|Ka> precedunce is all we know
[09:42] <khermans> vontux, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[09:42] <khermans> choose SUID bit on
[09:42] <vontux> khermans: awesome :) thx very, very much :)
[09:42] <barbarianhero> INIT: "id "!" respawining too fast: disabloed for 5 minutes...then all the way through Id "6" and then INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and it just freezes
[09:42] <khermans> Corvinis-L, yup, vncviewer <yourip>
[09:42] <Ademan> anyone know about getting vlc 0.8.6b on fiesty? any repository or even just a deb out there for that version?  (long story but i kinda want/need the 0.8.6b as opposed to the 0.8.6 in the normal repositories as dumb as it sounds)
[09:42] <visor> hi everybody
[09:42] <barbarianhero> that is off the live cd
[09:42] <vontux> wow, this is a great channel on a great network, the rest of irc is in chaos, but you can always count on good ole' freednode :)
[09:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I have no frickin clue.. its out of my hands now. I think we should start cpr
[09:43] <khermans> Ademan, you could compile from source
[09:43] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: so strange...it worked fine until i started messing w/ x.org
[09:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try changing the H and V back to respectable values
[09:43] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Alright .... dankjewel :P
[09:43] <Ademan> khermans: yeah thats sort of a last resort for me
[09:43] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i had a crapy rez with some stuff of the left side of the screen but i want that back
[09:44] <khermans> Ademan, why, if the distro does not have it
[09:44] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: so strange, would the the live cd look onto /hda1 for x.org conf?
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:44] <visor> do you guys know if there are compiz 0.4 binaries around? I've tried beryl but i just dont like it, too many configuration settings and stuff, i like better compiz but the default version in repos is 0.3
[09:44] <Ademan> khermans: i dunno i never like compiling things myself (except my own work :-) )
[09:44] <bayziders> Does any one know where I can download kiba dock?
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I think it might.. which is really weird... maybe the CD checks to see if its already installed..
[09:44] <khermans> Ademan, you can make a package of it
[09:44] <rooly> hey, barbarianhero, have you tried resetting your bios stuffs?
[09:44] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah that is the only explanation i can think of other then my bios got hosed somehow
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: however, that command will get you back to your original settings.
[09:44] <rooly> ya know, like pulling out the battery and unplugging your machine
[09:45] <Jordan_U> visor, They have their own repos ( or at least did before the merge, don't know for sure now )
[09:45] <Tom47> omegacenti here is a neat wayto achieve the benfits of nx into a windows box http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-October/000287.html
[09:45] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok ill try that now
[09:45] <omegacenti> tom47 Thanks :)
[09:45] <enry> ok i was right!
[09:45] <vontux> !debian
[09:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:45] <FYI> I just updated and something got f-ed up
[09:45] <MacDrunk> hey
[09:45] <visor> Jordan_U: i have already checked that out on their site, its an external repo but it has 0.3 version :(
[09:45] <enry> Grub doest't reinstall from Ubuntu partition
[09:45] <MacDrunk> i try to run sudo and it ask for a pass???
[09:45] <FYI> I cannot visit certain websites with firefox, opera etc
[09:46] <enry> if i whant to change something+
[09:46] <khermans> MacDrunk, yes that is the point!
[09:46] <magnetron> FYI: what kind of website?
[09:46] <enry> i have hat to go in debian
[09:46] <vontux> FYI: do the sites have flash in them?
[09:46] <bayziders> No one knows where I can get kiba dock at?
[09:46] <omegacenti> Does tightvnc viewer exist for Ubuntu?
[09:46] <wobx> MacDrunk: yes put in your password
[09:46] <enry> jiii!
[09:46] <khermans> omegacenti, just use vncviewer
[09:46] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:46] <wobx> omegacenti: just apt-get install vncviewer
[09:46] <FYI> vontux, magnetron: that's quite possible, I will try to replicate. I was checking hotmail.com, games.atari.com
[09:46] <jiii> enry: yes?
[09:47] <FYI> crash in Opera too
[09:47] <rooly> dangit
[09:47] <enry> jiii,  i war right
[09:47] <enry> s
[09:47] <jiii> enry: good
[09:47] <MacDrunk> ok is done
[09:47] <MacDrunk> thenr
[09:47] <magnetron> omegacenti: yes, installed by default. "Terminal server client
[09:47] <wobx> omegacenti: werks for all vnc servers except realvnc commercial you'd need to get their enterprise client
[09:47] <vontux> try reinstalling the flash plugins for firefox and opera in Synaptic or Adept for a quick dirty fix
[09:47] <omegacenti> khermans: assume my other windows pc only has tightvnc viewer. Can I still have tightvnc viewer for ubuntu? or is vncviewer tightvnc compatible
[09:47] <FYI> vontux, magnetron: it appears flash is the problem... what should I do? I think I am using the free one... Install directly from adobe's site?
[09:47] <vontux> FYI: try reinstalling the flash plugins for firefox and opera in Synaptic or Adept for a quick dirty fix
[09:47] <enry> jiii,  when you install 2 OS one is in charge in the Grub
[09:48] <omegacenti> magnetron: read response to khermans please
[09:48] <khermans> they all speak the VNC protocol
[09:48] <vontux> FYI: after closing both of course though
[09:48] <wobx> omegacenti: read my post
[09:48] <jiii> enry: I know.
[09:48] <omegacenti> wobx: just did :)
[09:48] <FYI> vontux: right :)
[09:48] <omegacenti> one sec :)
[09:48] <jiii> enry: but you have two configurations.
[09:48] <wobx> omegacenti: ^_^
[09:48] <magnetron> FYI: no, it's in the repositories. use synaptic
[09:48] <enry> my problem now is that Grub is very slow to accept my keyoboard input
[09:48] <enry> how to solve?
[09:49] <magnetron> omegacenti: the one that comes with ubuntu is tightvnc
[09:49] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I have to restart brb
[09:49] <khermans> enry, set rate for keyboard in BIOS ?
[09:49] <vontux> !vnc
[09:49] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[09:49] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?
[09:49] <omegacenti> magnetron: where?
[09:49] <rooly> alrighty then, here is what i did and what i need it to do: i had to reinstall ubuntu 7 because i got tired of 64bit not having any software. after completeing this, i specifically left 10 gigs out of a 200 gig HD for windows. i then rebooted and installed windows xp to this partition. on completeing this, i was unable to reactivate the boot flags on the linux partition from windows, so i used the ubuntu recovery mode to reinstate those. now wi
[09:49] <rooly> ndows refuses to load into grub
[09:49] <enry> khermans, i don't think that it will work
[09:49] <magnetron> "Terminal server client", omegacenti. it's in the internet menu
[09:49] <barbarianhero> omegacenti :ok
[09:50] <khermans> enry, it has worked for me, not particular to grub
[09:50] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?...in the Debian dvd there is
[09:50] <vontux> rooly: xp, or vista?
[09:50] <omegacenti> magnetron: cool!
[09:50] <rooly> xp
[09:50] <k1gwb> I can't find where to make a new login in a nested window in feisty... i know it was there in previous versions
[09:50] <enry> khermans,  it's not the same problem than you
[09:50] <magnetron> FYI: use synaptic to uninstall gnash and install flash
[09:50] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?...in the Debian dvd there is
[09:51] <vontux> rooly: I have the solution ;however, it is on an hd of a computer that I do not currently have access today, if I pm you and give you my e-mail address, you can e-mail me, and I can send you the pdf file I stored the answer in
[09:51] <rooly> sounds good to me
[09:51] <rooly> i promise i won't sell it
[09:51] <vontux> ok....
[09:51] <rooly> lemme nickserv identify real quick
[09:51] <magnetron> FYI: the adobe flash plugin is called flashplugin-nonfree
[09:51] <rooly> good to go
[09:53] <barbarianhero> hrm
[09:53] <rooly> so, does gnash freeze anyone else's machines?
[09:53] <rooly> or only mine
[09:53] <magnetron> rooly: it is still in alpha stage
[09:54] <rooly> makes sense
[09:54] <enry> solved by myself thanks
[09:55] <khermans> magnetron, rooly, try swfdec
[09:55] <khermans> http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[09:55] <khermans> youtube works with it too
[09:55] <vontux> rooly: whoops
[09:55] <rooly> yo
[09:55] <rooly> forgot to identify?
[09:55] <vontux> rooly: join #vontux and I'll give you my mail in there, I don't have pm registration
[09:56] <barbarianhero> anyone have some experience getting i810 driver to work with a widescreen lcd?
[09:56] <vontux> rooly: no, was trying to talk to you in #kubuntu
[09:56] <rooly> oh
[09:56] <rooly> lol
[09:56] <omegacenti> There we go
[09:56] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hey...just removing the stuff i added to /etc/default/915resolution lets teh live cd boot and also allows me to boot into my hd w/ x.org functioning
[09:56] <omegacenti> in good ol' konversation. people will hate me for that comment..
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: cool :)
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: you didnt by any chance change the BIT= part of 915resolution last time around did you?
[09:57] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah but i would sitlll like to have my native resolution supported lol
[09:57] <breezee> hello
[09:57] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i did on the first time i went around, but i went back and left it blank afterwards w/ no change
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: heres a possible solution is that is ALL you want.
[09:58] <visor> so nobody is running compiz 0.4 on feisty?
[09:58] <bayziders> Can some one please help me find a kiba-dock.deb?
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: download xserver-xorg-video-intel driver instead and use that. More than likely this will work
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: consider this driver version 2.0
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: that driver is available as apt-get or synaptics
[09:59] <viktor> hi
[09:59] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i will try that...won't have to use 915 then correct?
[09:59] <magnetron> bayziders: i added a kiba package request some months ago. they are still working on it
[09:59] <barbarianhero> just change the driver port of xorg.conf to intel instead of 815
[09:59] <inaddy> 0clear
[09:59] <barbarianhero> er instead of i810?
[09:59] <sx66> what is the lowest memory hog for irc clients?
[09:59] <FYI> gaim
[09:59] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: might still have to, however I will want you to pastebin your 915resolution -l before it and your /etc/default/915resolution as well
[09:59] <FYI> combine all of your messengers
[10:00] <bayziders> magnetron: In the respirators?
[10:00] <rooly> thanks for the help peoples
[10:00] <khermans> sx66, irssi or bitchx
[10:00] <rooly> gotta hit the sack
[10:00] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: you will need to download the package first and THEN change it to "intel"
[10:00] <khermans> sx66, heh, or netcat
[10:00] <viktor> hi
[10:00] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: right...do i need an unsupported respoitory for that driver, it's not finding it
[10:00] <magnetron> bayziders: i requested in launchpad that they will add it in the repositories
[10:01] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lemme see, it might be
[10:01] <bayziders> I am not seeing it in synaptic, are there any mirrors?
[10:01] <Lilacor> !power management
[10:02] <magnetron> bayziders: i did a REQUEST that they will add it. they are STILL WORKING ON IT
[10:02] <Lilacor> How do I prevent my box from going to sleep even when I have it set NOT to do so?
[10:02] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: http://pastebin.ca/552376
[10:02] <bayziders> So no =/
[10:02] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: its under misc graphical (universe)
[10:02] <bayziders> I can't belive no one hosted it on any mirror
[10:02] <Lilacor> power management in linux is busted, Linus knows it and it's a deal breaker for many... :(
[10:02] <MacDrunk> arggg to dificult to setup a samba server
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, only because the hardware doesnt follow specs
[10:03] <magnetron> bayziders: it's not about hosting it. it's about making the package in the first place
[10:03] <sx66> khermans: where would it say how much sys res it is taking?
[10:03] <buckdeer> Has anybody used "Jabbin" - the Jabber client with VoIP support (ala GTalk)?
[10:03] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try editing mode 5c that might be a better choice.
[10:03] <Lilacor> khermans: do you know how to make my box not go to sleep?
[10:03] <khermans> sx66, top ?
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, sure
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, like when you close the lid?
[10:03] <Lilacor> no
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: when I have the screen locked for an extended amount of time
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: I've already set those and it isn't working
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: it goes to sleep no matter what and it's pissing me off
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, i wonder if the services need to be restarted
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, i always hack the files in /etc/acpi/
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, sleep.sh is a good one to tsrat with
[10:05] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok...i'll try 5c quick
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, try moving it to anotherfile name
[10:05] <Lilacor> khermans: any examples to go off of?
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, then it wont ever get called
[10:05] <Lilacor> khermans: that sounds very kludgy
[10:05] <Lilacor> :(
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, not really -- you said you dont want it to suspend
[10:06] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: nope...
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, maybe the GUI is broken
[10:06] <bayziders> HA I love google, I found a way to get a kiba dock poackage
[10:06] <khermans> or your hardware is not compliant
[10:06] <Lilacor> khermans: I s'pose
[10:06] <Lilacor> I hope this works...this is bad
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, why is it bad/
[10:07] <sx66> how do you make gaim not load up the nickserv on irc when it boots?
[10:07] <khermans> Lilacor, have you ever read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?
[10:07] <Lilacor> khermans: when you have something working all night and you wake up to find out that only 1 hour of the work was done because your box went to sleep... that's BAD (R)
[10:07] <FYI> still freezes up, even though I've removed flash and everything
[10:07] <khermans> the one with no consideration wants to pay money for something that "works", because he finds value in that solution, while the artists uses a hack to fix the problem as specified
[10:08] <khermans> Lilacor, well i would rename the file
[10:08] <Lilacor> khermans: I've already done that
[10:08] <Jack_> FINALLY got to the cpu on this laptop, no wonder it overheated the heatsink barely touches it and theres hardly any thermal paste left
[10:08] <esperegu> saluton chiuj
[10:08] <khermans> cool, now try to put it to sleep manually
[10:08] <Lilacor> khermans: hopefully that'll be a temporary fix...
[10:09] <khermans> Lilacor, hopefully it wont go to sleep :-)
[10:09] <khermans> sleep and supend are different btw
[10:09] <khermans> i mean hibernate
[10:09] <Lilacor> yeah
[10:09] <chris-in-leeds> Hi guys
[10:09] <Lilacor> I noticed
[10:09] <Lilacor> thanks
[10:10] <esperegu> what is the best way to get your programs launched quickly? I want like a custom commands at hand... (I used fluxbox before and then you can just add it to the menu which is always at hand very fast on right mouse click) I wondered how you guys do it. thx!
[10:10] <Catoptromancy> shell script
[10:10] <khermans> esperegu, add it to gnome toolbar?
[10:10] <khermans> the panel
[10:11] <esperegu> khermans: my serverlist has already 20 entries.
[10:11] <chris-in-leeds> Anyone know how to change the shell screen resolution?
[10:11] <khermans> esperegu, add the quick shell to your panel then
[10:11] <Enverex> How do you get a module to auto-load on system startup?
[10:11] <Enverex> (kernel module that is)
[10:11] <khermans> chris-in-leeds, pass vga=XXX to your kernel/
[10:12] <Corvinis-V> khermans > Do you know how i can change the basic vnc port in ubuntu.... I don't want ip:0 i want ip:anotherport
[10:12] <khermans> where XXX is the proper VGA resolution code
[10:12] <khermans> Enverex, /etc/modules
[10:12] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: sigh...lol this is much more of a pain then i ever thought possible lol
[10:12] <brett> so im using a creative Audigy 2 z2 audio card, and the audio was working a while ago... but now it wont work.. i'm using  "Audigy 2 Z2 [SB0350]  (Alsa Mixer)"
[10:12] <brett> any ideas?
[10:12] <esperegu> khermans: what's the quick shell?
[10:12] <Enverex> khermans, I'm sure I looked there before, no idea how I missed it
[10:13] <khermans> esperegu, its a mini shell sitting in your panel
[10:13] <Enverex> Where does module-assistant store its logs?
[10:14] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: garghhhhh
[10:14] <barbarianhero> 915resolution does not work very well w/ my setup
[10:14] <esperegu> khermans: damn... I so used to the right click on the desktop I keep clicking when I want something ;-)
[10:14] <khermans> esperegu, or ALT+F2
[10:15] <khermans> esperegu, run blackbox or fluxbox then
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: yeah. I had fluxbox
[10:15] <khermans> :-)
[10:15] <khermans> i used to run blackbox on windows
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: me 2
[10:15] <esperegu> :-)
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: but I also like the way that ubuntu is really made for gnome/metacity
[10:16] <barbarianhero> does anyone know what i must do to install xorg-xserver-video-intel
[10:16] <esperegu> khermans: I tried to run fluxbox in the gnome session replacing metacity with fluxbox
[10:16] <econobeing> compiling/installing software should be the same for most distros of linux right?
[10:16] <barbarianhero> when i do apt-get install xorg-xserver-video-intel it gives my couldn't find package
[10:16] <esperegu> khermans: but that way the window positioning is not working properly
[10:16] <khermans> econobeing, yes
[10:16] <sx66> how do you set xchat to auto load servers, and channels on boot?
[10:17] <econobeing> because i had to do ndiswrapper manually, and i wanted to know if it would be as easy to install on another distro, like slackware or something
[10:17] <khermans> barbarianhero, xserver-xorg...
[10:17] <khermans> sx66, specify in the options
[10:17] <FYI> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
[10:17] <FYI> Bus error (core dumped)
[10:17] <barbarianhero> khermans: that doesnt work either
[10:17] <FYI> is the error I get from firefox.
[10:17] <econobeing> ubuntu is great and everything, but i wanna get down and dirty so i actually learn
[10:18] <Shankysv87> ubuntu is pissing me off.. i've been threw everything that anyone can think of.. and still no luck.. grub isn't being recognized.
[10:18] <brett> so why doesnt alsa work for me? im using creative audigy 2 z2...
[10:18] <khermans> barbarianhero, aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:18] <khermans> econobeing, try gentoo
[10:19] <khermans> Shankysv87, grub wont load?
[10:19] <Shankysv87> no
[10:19] <Shankysv87> i've reinstalled
[10:19] <Shankysv87> i began with just a partition
[10:19] <khermans> what happens?
[10:19] <barbarianhero> khermans: it doesn't give me anything
[10:19] <khermans> ensure fdisk reports no hidden partitions
[10:19] <Shankysv87> then i reinstalled
[10:19] <Shankysv87> again
[10:19] <econobeing> i've tried gentoo twice (it takes like 5 hours to install on my laptop >_<) but both times when i rebooted i ended up in a terminal and didn't know what to do... i don't think i installed a window manager...
[10:19] <khermans> barbarianhero, sudo aptitude update -- make sure you have all repos on
[10:20] <chris-in-leeds> Hi khermans... Cheers for that. Where is this done in the kernel?
[10:20] <Shankysv87> then i used ubuntu install to format the entire hdd
[10:20] <khermans> econobeing, well thats the dirt you wanted
[10:20] <khermans> :-)
[10:20] <Shankysv87> and still i can't access it
[10:20] <econobeing> yeah :P
[10:20] <slackmagic> econobeing: can't go wrong with slackware ;)
[10:20] <econobeing> i want something somewhere between gentoo and ubuntu
[10:20] <econobeing> yeah i was thinking slackware, heh. i'm downloading fedora 7 right now too
[10:21] <khermans> econobeing, hrmm how about slackware
[10:21] <zoidberg> guys where can i download gnome-applets?
[10:21] <snazzed> khermans:  Thanks a ton.  CVS is now running on my server and I'm able to connect  and do everything I need to
[10:21] <khermans> Shankysv87, tell me whatfdisk reports
[10:21] <econobeing> as long as i can get my wireless card working so i can come here or go to forums, i'll try pretty much any distro
[10:21] <khermans> zoidberg, many are buitl in
[10:21] <Shankysv87> how do i fdisk from xp?
[10:22] <khermans> econobeing, most wireless should work, even if you have to use ndiswrapper
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans: it still doesn't show anything...
[10:22] <slackmagic> econobeing: and to answer your question from before, yes from source it's all the same...find the proper way to package it all nicely before you install it, that way you can easily remove/update and keep your system clean
[10:22] <econobeing> i've practically memorized how to install and configure ndiswrapper to get my wireless working
[10:22] <khermans> Shankysv87, no do it from live cd
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans i have all the repos on that are in synaptic
[10:22] <khermans> barbarianhero, you have a problem buddy
[10:22] <Shankysv87> (i'm sorry i can't hardly thing anymore its 4:30am here and i've been doing this for hours)
[10:22] <Shankysv87> think
[10:22] <Tom47> omegacenti: just for you interest i think i will try wubi instead of colinux to see how freenx server in it can be linked as per prev url
[10:22] <Shankysv87> 8
[10:22] <zoidberg> khermans, i'm trying to download this gnome-applet that allows u to do CPU scaling...do u know how i can download it?
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans this is 6.06
[10:22] <khermans> barbarianhero, feisty?
[10:22] <khermans> zoidberg, its built in
[10:22] <Shankysv87> when i get in there.. how do i do that?
[10:23] <econobeing> what's everybody's opinion on fedora?
[10:23] <FYI> Does anyone have any idea why Firefox may be crashing after updating?
[10:23] <barbarianhero> khermans: is there a way to get it using dapper?
[10:23] <khermans> Shankysv87, sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[10:23] <khermans> or sda if it is a SATA disk
[10:23] <zoidberg> khermans, how do i acces it?
[10:23] <Shankysv87> its an ide
[10:23] <khermans> on panel, right-click add
[10:23] <Shankysv87> hdb
[10:23] <khermans> Shankysv87, second drive?
[10:23] <slackmagic> econobeing: what's your opinion on driving a VW? can't tell until you get one, test-drive it and then you'll know :D
[10:23] <Shankysv87> yes
[10:23] <Shankysv87> my first is what my xp runs on
[10:24] <khermans> Shankysv87, oh make sure you tell your BIOS to boot there
[10:24] <Shankysv87> how?
[10:24] <khermans> if thats where you are putting grub
[10:24] <Danopolis> anyone still use a dial-up connection in ubuntu?
[10:24] <barbarianhero> khermans: is there a way to get this in dapper or should i just install feisty?
[10:25] <Kenth> does anyone know why tftpd-hpa wouldn't be running after installing via apt?
[10:25] <mrcreativity> i need help with an ubuntu installation
[10:25] <Shankysv87> when i boot to the drive with ubuntu on it, will grub automatically realize that i have xp on there too?
[10:25] <mrcreativity> i installed SUM and changed some settings and now my installation doesnt boot
[10:25] <slackmagic> Kenth: tried to start it? getting an error?
[10:25] <sx66> when someone says your nick in xchat, how do you force open a tab so you can receive the notice?
[10:25] <Shankysv87> or will i have to change bios every time i want to xp it up
[10:25] <marmer> hy
[10:25] <mrcreativity> can someone please help me
[10:25] <khermans> barbarianhero, that package is not in dapper
[10:25] <drexxi> hi
[10:26] <khermans> barbarianhero, i recommend feisty
[10:26] <drexxi> can somebody help me to fix my sources.list
[10:26] <barbarianhero> khermans: ok i'll give feisty a try
[10:26] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24817/
[10:26] <Kenth> slackmagic, /etc/init.d/tfptd-hpa gives me no output at all.  if i manually run /usr/sbin/in.tftpd <options> it'll run, but not automatically
[10:26] <barbarianhero> kermans: thanks
[10:26] <Shankysv87> bbl
[10:26] <drexxi> i cant install build-essential
[10:26] <drexxi> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[10:26] <khermans> Kenth, sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart ?
[10:26] <sldkfj> sx66, try asking in #xchat
[10:26] <mrcreativity> i really need help, i cant boot into my ubuntu installation
[10:26] <sldkfj> drexxi, make it plural with an s
[10:26] <mrcreativity> i installed SUM and changed some settings and now my installation doesnt boot
[10:26] <Kenth> khermans, no output, no action from that.  i think it's supposed to start from openbsd-inetd
[10:26] <sldkfj> as in 'essentials'
[10:27] <slackmagic> Shankysv87: ubuntu comes with grub by default, it'll be your bootmanager handling all your installed OSs and will give you the choice to boot whichever OSs are listed in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:27] <khermans> Kenth, oh check your inetd config
[10:27] <Enverex> Where does module-assistant store its logs? (does it make logs?)
[10:27] <mk2> Hey I was wondering how I could Uninstall my beryl unsupported plugins?
[10:27] <mk2> Does anyone know how I could do this?
[10:27] <Smegzor> I'm using ubuntu 6.06 and I want to upgrade firefox but in synaptic it only has my version 1.5  How do I upgrade to the latest firefox?
[10:27] <Danopolis> does anyone know if ubuntu supports dial up modems?
[10:27] <mk2> Please, A little help?
[10:27] <Enverex> Danopolis, Of course
[10:27] <mk2> I don't have snow effect.
[10:27] <sldkfj> sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl-plugins-unsupported
[10:27] <roryy> Danopolis: i'm using one right now
[10:27] <khermans> Smegzor, either download binary from website or upgrade to feisty
[10:27] <Kenth> khermans, there was no entry in /etc/inetd.conf for it, so i added one, although just by copying the line above and changing the bin and options.  but restarting inetd doesn't seem to have any effect
[10:28] <Kenth> unless i'm restarting incorrectly
[10:28] <roryy> !dialup | Danopolis
[10:28] <ubotu> Danopolis: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:28] <khermans> Danopolis, yes it does
[10:28] <Danopolis> was it hard to get it to work roryy?
[10:28] <Smegzor> I did the download.  It seems I have to run it directly to use it.
[10:28] <mk2> Hello world!
[10:28] <slackmagic> Kenth: don't know how ubuntu handles the init-sys, but basically you have to make sure the script it installed has to be in the correct folder (correct runlevel dir) and has to be executable
[10:28] <roryy> Danopolis: i have a winmodem; it took a bit of effort.  Read the wiki link above
[10:29] <Danopolis> cheers mine is external supposed to be easier but got major problems
[10:29] <roryy> Danopolis: is it a usb modem?
[10:29] <mk2> Can someone give me the command line on how to install the beryl plugins?
[10:29] <ahmed_> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[10:29] <Smegzor> I'd love to upgrade to fiesty.  How do I do that?  I don't want to run the install cd over my installation.  It is also my file server.
[10:29] <Danopolis> no its a serial, worked in debian
[10:29] <khermans> Kenth, it should be in init.d like i said
[10:29] <mk2> Can someone give me the command line on how to install the unsupported beryl plugins?
[10:29] <khermans> /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa	restart
[10:29] <mk2> I mean
[10:29] <drexxi> mk2, sudo apt-cache search beryl
[10:30] <mk2> No that's not the one
[10:30] <roryy> Danopolis: hrm.  odd.  i'd have thought it would Just Work.
[10:30] <khermans> Kenth, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=tftpd-hpa&version=feisty&arch=i386
[10:30] <ahmed_> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[10:30] <drexxi> sldkfj, the same
[10:30] <Danopolis> dials up fine, can ping okay, but when i got to access web or packages the system freezes completely
[10:30] <ahmed_> , guys did any one try it xwinwrap,??
[10:31] <drexxi> sldkfj, (10:30:58) xblacky: : Couldn't find package build-essentials
[10:31] <slackmagic> Kenth: output       ls -al /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:31] <Tobias43> How goes it
[10:31] <khermans> drew, build-essential
[10:31] <Kenth> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1780 Dec 14 06:50 /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:31] <mk2> It goes well
[10:31] <sldkfj> drexxi, what repo isn't available in /etc/apt/sources.list  ??
[10:31] <drexxi> khermans,  there is no way with build-essential or build-essentials
[10:31] <khermans> Kenth, right, so start it, and make sure you dont have any other tftpd servers installed
[10:31] <Kenth> a manual: sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa doesn't start it though
[10:32] <slackmagic> Kenth: should run fine with    /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start|stop|restart
[10:32] <Kenth> it doesn't
[10:32] <khermans> drexxi, no way to what?
[10:32] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24817/ <- this is my list
[10:32] <khermans> Kenth, what is the ouput?
[10:32] <sahil> is there a software like winiso or poweriso so some kind of iso making software for linux?
[10:32] <slackmagic> Kenth: pastebin the contents of  /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:32] <mk2> Can someone tell me the sudo line to get plugins?
[10:32] <khermans> sahil, dd :-)
[10:33] <sahil> khermans, what is dd?
[10:33] <khermans> sahil, disk dump
[10:33] <khermans> sahil, man dd
[10:33] <slackmagic> Kenth: should be    sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
[10:34] <sahil> khermans, disk dump is not in the repo's, can i get a link for it ?
[10:34] <khermans> drexxi, your repos are incorrct
[10:34] <mrcreativity> can someone tell me if i can administer an ubuntu installation aafter booting from a live cd?
[10:34] <khermans> sahil, it is installed by default, dd
[10:34] <sldkfj> drexxi, they look screwed
[10:34] <drexxi> khermans, what does that mean? they are incorrect?
[10:34] <drexxi> ^^
[10:34] <sahil> khermans, so how do i use it?
[10:34] <khermans> drexxi, you only have universe enabled
[10:34] <slackmagic> sahil: man dd as khermans said or google for dd to see a few pages explaining or giving you examples
[10:34] <Kenth> great, pastebin not working
[10:34] <mrcreativity> i really need help please
[10:35] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:35] <drexxi> works
[10:35] <khermans> sahil, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[10:35] <slackmagic> Kenth: should be    sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start      <--- try that and see what it says
[10:35] <Kenth> slackmagic - yea there's no output from that
[10:35] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me if i can administer an ubuntu installation aafter booting from a live cd?
[10:35] <Smegzor> What is the command to see which version of ubuntu I have installed?
[10:35] <zoidberg> guys how do u upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate CD?
[10:35] <slackmagic> Kenth: then you really have to look into   /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa and see what is scripted in there..no other way
[10:35] <khermans> Kenth, look at the script and maybe figure out why
[10:35] <Danopolis> yes there is an icon on the desktop
[10:36] <drexxi> could someone give me his source.list compatible to my dist?
[10:36] <Perun> hi all
[10:36] <khermans> Smegzor, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:36] <slackmagic> cat /etc/ubuntu-version perhaps? I don't know..I'm not on ubuntu
[10:36] <Perun> how can I change the locale for an user? (default should stay as it is)
[10:36] <bullgard4> hat are 'restricted modules'?
[10:36] <bullgard4> What are 'restricted modules'?
[10:36] <Madpilot> Smegzor, lsb_release -a
[10:36] <_Bud> mrcreactivity,I don't know ,what i did was just installubuntuon 100% HD
[10:37] <jussi01> bullgard4: they are the non open source drivers
[10:37] <Smegzor> ok  I have 6.06 How do I upgrade to Fiesty?
[10:37] <Jared> I went to login under root from the gui login screen and it said I can't do it...how do I login under root then?
[10:37] <Jared> Smegzor, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <khermans> drexxi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24819/
[10:37] <Smegzor> thanks  this will take a while :)
[10:38] <drexxi> thank you
[10:38] <Madpilot> Smegzor, you'll need to upgrade to 6.10 first - can't jump versions
[10:38] <zoidberg> guys how do u upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate CD?
[10:38] <predaeus> drexxi, see also http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, upgrade | Smegzor
[10:38] <ubotu> Smegzor: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:38] <Smegzor> thanks again
[10:38] <khermans> Jared, no! dont do that
[10:38] <bullgard4> jussi01: Thank you very much.
[10:39] <Jared> khermans, I need to login under root, how do I do it?
[10:39] <khermans> Madpilot, sure you can, but you might break something
[10:39] <khermans> Jared, sudo -i
[10:39] <Madpilot> khermans, true... s/can't/shouldn't
[10:39] <Jared> thanks.
[10:39] <Kenth> ah great
[10:39] <slackmagic> Kenth: nirvana?
[10:39] <slackmagic> :D
[10:39] <khermans> Madpilot, i have done it with success
[10:40] <sldkfj> drexxi, look at this one:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24820/
[10:40] <Kenth> you have to update /etc/default/tftpd-hpa with RUN_DAEMON="yes" (default no), then sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start (I had previously tried this but with a "restart")
[10:40] <Kenth> and i guess without being started in the first place, it fails when trying to stop
[10:40] <khermans> oh heh
[10:40] <Smegzor> if I do apt-get dist-upgrade will that upgrade in the correct sequence for me?  eg. to 6.10 first?
[10:40] <mrcreativity> i need to copy a few files in my ubuntu installation but it wont boot. can i boot using the live cd and try?
[10:40] <Kenth> normally wouldn't it just fail stop, and go start
[10:41] <khermans> Smegzor, you have to change your apt sources first to edgy
[10:41] <slackmagic> Kenth: you'll never forget that from now on..congratulations..learned something new..ain't gnu/linux great? :P
[10:41] <khermans> mrcreativity, sure
[10:41] <iTom> I've sorta got a problem.
[10:41] <predaeus> mrcreativity, you can boot from live cd and then mount the partitions of your ubuntu installation
[10:41] <Kenth> i guess that'll teach me not to expect all init.d scripts to be written with the same quality
[10:41] <Smegzor> ok  after I've done that and done the upgrade, do I need to change my sources again for fiesty?
[10:42] <iTom> Whenever I try running ubuntu from live cd, my computer's fan goes crazy... any suggestions?
[10:42] <mrcreativity> let me try
[10:42] <khermans> slackmagic, and you have the power to change it, yet you idle :-)
[10:42] <nzhomie> anybody know how to get amsn to work with tcl?
[10:42] <sldkfj> drexxi, still not getting it??   do a:    sudo apt-get update
[10:42] <khermans> Kenth, it is common
[10:42] <slackmagic> khermans: gotta feel guilty of something! :D
[10:42] <sldkfj> then try it
[10:42] <Kenth> well, i now have a have successful thin client.  it's loading the kernel, getting the Ubuntu splash screen, then a blank screen with a blinking horizontal cursor
[10:42] <chris-in-leeds> khemans - Cheers for the screen resolution info. I just googled the keyword vga= & I seem to have what I need.
[10:42] <khermans> iTom, remove the fan
[10:42] <Kenth> have a *half* successful...
[10:43] <mrcreativity> how to i log in as root?
[10:43] <khermans> Kenth, heh you ever try DRBL /
[10:43] <khermans> ?
[10:43] <iTom> Haha.
[10:43] <khermans> Kenth, i would do that rather than your hack to create a custom thin client
[10:43] <chris-in-leeds> khermans - Cheers for the screen resolution info. I just googled the keyword vga= & I seem to have what I need
[10:43] <mrcreativity> predaeus how do i log in as root to copy the files?
[10:43] <iTom> All it does is overheat... it's a laptop, too, new dell, 1.89ghz, sick of windows... etc etc...
[10:43] <khermans> chris-in-leeds, no prob
[10:43] <mrcreativity> khermans...how do i log in as root
[10:43] <iTom> it goes "Loading Linux Kernel 100%" then goes crazy.
[10:43] <khermans> mrcreativity, sudo -i
[10:44] <predaeus> mrcreativity, sudo will do
[10:44] <Madpilot> mrcreativity, you do not need to log in as root.
[10:44] <Kenth> khermans - no this is my first attempt.  all the ubuntu documentation pointed to ltsp-server
[10:44] <khermans> Kenth, yeah i know -- people should be trying DRBL
[10:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | mrcreativity
[10:44] <ubotu> mrcreativity: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:44] <slackmagic> envy all of you..i'm still here with my 5 year old POSes *sighs*
[10:44] <mrcreativity> kherman no i mean i need to copy files on my ubuntu installation after having booting from the live cd
[10:44] <khermans> mrcreativity, yeah so thats possible
 Can someone give me the command line on how to install the beryl plugins? ............   sudo apt-get --reinstall install beryl
[10:45] <Frogzoo> !beryl
[10:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:46] <mrcreativity> khermans: can u help me do it...i need to replace the menu.lst file with a backup i made
[10:46] <Kenth> i setup Beryl yesterday, damn sexy
[10:46] <khermans> mrcreativity, cant you boot with grub and use recovery mode option instead
[10:46] <khermans> ?
[10:46] <bout> I usb connected my new HP photosmart C3180 to my os, howver it wont print, although its conected, how can I go about troubleshooting? pherhaps the drivers arent loaded pls help
[10:46] <ebhk> can anyone tell me how do I install odecs on ubuntu? is there a command line?
[10:46] <mrcreativity> khermans: nothing is working. not even recovery mode
[10:46] <ebhk> *codecs
[10:47] <khermans> mrcreativity, how far does it get?
[10:47] <sldkfj> If you need help with Beryl, ya really need help in general first.
[10:47] <slackmagic> bout: tried googling for 'HP photosmart C3180 AND ubuntu' ?
[10:47] <Tobias43> #general_first?
[10:47] <mrcreativity> khermans: hard to say...it just stops,
[10:47] <khermans> at the splash ?
[10:47] <bout> the printer is detected, I see it in my printer manger
[10:47] <mrcreativity> i know there is something wrong with menu.lst because i was using SUM
[10:47] <sldkfj> tobias, cute ;)
[10:47] <mrcreativity> khermans: yes
[10:48] <khermans> go into grub, press e, edit the kernel line to ... rw single init=/bin/bash
[10:48] <Tobias43> Well, spaces didn't work. :P
[10:48] <Kenth> has anyone had issue playing encrypted dvd's even after installing all the necessary files such as libdvdcss2, w32codecs, totem-xine, etc..?
[10:48] <khermans> Kenth, no
[10:48] <khermans> i use vlc though
[10:49] <sldkfj> Tobias43, ehh, just a way of me saying beryl is simple
[10:49] <MistaED> hey all, where does ubuntu keep it's database on what ethX goes where? i need to change one from eth2 to eth0
[10:49] <Tobias43> Yes yes, just some humour out of me. :P
[10:49] <balor> Kenth: totem-xine is not necessary to play DVD's only for DVD menu browsing.
[10:50] <sldkfj> most people don't read 'man apt-get' or use synaptic
[10:50] <balor> Kenth: you also dont need w32codecs to play DVDs if you've got the gstreamer-ffmpeg stuff installed with totem (not totem-xine)
[10:50] <khermans> MistaED, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
[10:51] <Tobias43> kdesu kdesu kdesu
[10:51] <MistaED> khermans, there is no sysconfig
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: edit /etc/modprobe.conf and enter something like      alias eth0 DRIVERNAME1
[10:51] <khermans> doh red hat
[10:51] <sjoerd> MistaED, khermans: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat thingy
[10:51] <khermans> im not only on ubuntu!
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: examples are       alias eth0 8139too
[10:51] <Jared> what command will allow me to check which version of linux i'm running?
[10:51] <MistaED> ok i have some kind of rhine
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: or       alias eth1 3c59x        for example...
[10:52] <Jared> which version of ubuntu more rather
[10:52] <sjoerd> MistaED: either /etc/network/interfaces (change what config is on what iface) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
[10:52] <sjoerd> MistaED: to change what interface get which name (the exact naming of the udev rules file might be a bit different)
[10:52] <khermans> MistaED,, sjoerd, it would be /etc/iftab then
[10:53] <khermans> Jared, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:53] <Jared> Thanks
[10:53] <sjoerd> khermans: /etc/iftab is for ifrename iirc, which is obsoleted by udev these days
[10:53] <Jared> WHAT THE HELL??? I downloaded Feisty Fawn and installed it and now it says i'm running version 6.06
[10:53] <khermans> sjoerd, really?
[10:53] <Perun> should I set locales for an user in his own .bashrc/.profile or is there a better way to do it? (kde has my favorite language but not firefox/thunderbird and some tools, the language files for them are installed)
[10:54] <darkfena313> hello
[10:54] <darkfena313> how do i install new fonts?
[10:54] <khermans> darkfena313, aptitude search fonts
[10:54] <drexxi> sldkfj, sry i dont have ssh for that server the one who has is shopping atm, he is back in 10 minutes
[10:54] <Frogzoo> Jared: lsb_release -a
[10:54] <khermans> select some and install ...
[10:55] <darkfena313> aptitude?
[10:55] <khermans> ya
[10:55] <clsdaniel> darkfena313, http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php
[10:55] <sldkfj> oh really?  hahahhaa
[10:55] <Frogzoo> !fonts | darkfena313
[10:55] <ubotu> darkfena313: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:55] <khermans> Jared, you may have download wrong ISO
[10:55] <sldkfj> drexxo, when was I curious about ssh?
[10:55] <MistaED> thanks guys but just one more question, how do i refresh it now without restarting?
[10:55] <Bond_Weng> !apache
[10:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:55] <darkfena313> thanks
[10:55] <richardgr> quiero conocer gente nueva
[10:55] <khermans> MistaED, iface?
[10:56] <sldkfj> ubuntu version:  cat /etc/issue
[10:56] <MistaED> khermans, is that a command?
[10:56] <khermans> MistaED, no i mean your ifce?
[10:56] <khermans> MistaED, can you restart udev?
[10:56] <sjoerd> MistaED: you changed the udev rule or /e/n/interfaces ?
[10:56] <contajious> hi.  what are the dependencies for dhcp?
[10:56] <richardgr> te gustaria enrollarte conmigo
[10:57] <MistaED> sjoerd, i changed the iftab because the udev one didn't exist and the interfaces one was more or less just setting static ip's
[10:57] <Jared> Okay, how do I upgrade to edgy then?
[10:57] <MistaED> khermans, does udev read the iftab file?
[10:58] <khermans> Jared, sudo sed -i "s/dapper/edgy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:58] <khermans> MistaED, i am unsure
[10:58] <pkweb> hello how i disable ipv6?
[10:58] <khermans> MistaED, it may only be populated on boot, i dont know enough about it
[10:58] <MistaED> if in doubt, restart! :)
[10:58] <khermans> pkweb, google may help
[10:59] <khermans> this is a common task
[10:59] <Kenth> what's typically the device name for a dvd-rom?
[10:59] <khermans> pkweb, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[10:59] <khermans> Kenth, /dev/cdrom
[11:00] <drexxi> lol
[11:00] <drexxi> i really need help
[11:00] <khermans> ?
[11:00] <pkweb> thanks
[11:00] <FYI> can anyone help, I just updated my stuff and firefox and opera crash
[11:00] <khermans> errors?
[11:00] <Tobias43> Ever get people saying "do a 'sudo rm -drf /'"? Or does Ubuntu have some sort of preventative check for something that drastic?
[11:00] <Kenth> khermans, in VLC media player, should File > Open Disc > then changing the device to /dev/cdrom play a dvd?
[11:00] <khermans> i would think so
[11:00] <FYI> khermans, it says "Bus error (core dumped)" in terminal
[11:01] <khermans> FYI, oh could be bad
[11:01] <Madpilot> Tobias43, kickbanning anyone dumb enough to seriously suggest that in this channel is our main defence...
[11:01] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/
[11:01] <ajax4> Hey guys...I just installed the latest automatic update and it hosed my video configuration. I had to disable the nvidia driver to get it to boot. Anyone know what the deal is?
[11:01] <Tobias43> Indeed.
[11:01] <contajious> hi.  what are the dependencies for dhcp?
[11:01] <Tobias43> But now I'm tempted to try it. :P
[11:01] <Bucat2> hi guys
[11:02] <khermans> ajax4, using glx-new/
[11:02] <khermans> ?
[11:02] <FYI> khermans: how bad? as in have to reinstall linux bad?
[11:02] <Toomas> ajax4, new kernel was installed, so you'll need to re-install nvidia drivers
[11:02] <ajax4> khermans: I don't think so.
[11:02] <khermans> contajious, aptitude show dhcp
[11:02] <gregor> hi. what do i have to do to get some special keys on my logitech keyboard working? the problem is: They do not generate Keypress events or keycodes (tested with xev)
[11:02] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/ could someone tell me what i have to do to install that damn build-essential
[11:03] <khermans> FYI, you never have to reinstall if you root cause your issue
[11:03] <ajax4> Toomas: I installed my nvidia drivers from the synaptic packages. Shouldn't they update on their own?
[11:03] <khermans> gregor, xmodmap
[11:03] <Toomas> hm, yea they should have updated
[11:03] <FYI> khermans: I believe my latest update involved a new kernel
[11:03] <khermans> drexxi, add the sources we told you, then do aptitude update, then install
[11:03] <khermans> you must be on the internet of course
[11:03] <khermans> heh
[11:04] <khermans> FYI, -16 breaks some things i have seen
[11:04] <gregor> khermans yes... that works if i know the keycodes... i have and use that... but some keys dont generate keycodes
[11:04] <khermans> including xorg/nvidia
[11:04] <khermans> gregor, hrmm then probably your device configuration is not setup properly
[11:04] <drexxi> apitude update?
[11:04] <Toomas> ajax4, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx
[11:04] <khermans> gregor, google your exact device name and xmodmap
[11:04] <FYI> khermans: I have booted under different ones though... everything worked fine up until this latest update. firefox and opera are the only things that appear to be affected
[11:04] <sldkfj> drexxi, fix the broken package issue stated there\\
[11:05] <ajax4> khermans: I hope this doesn't happen to the friends I gotten to go to Ubuntu. If it does, I'll be getting some urgent phone calls....
[11:05] <khermans> drexxi, yes that refrsehes and pulls the list down
[11:05] <ajax4> Toomas: Thanks, I'll try that.
[11:05] <drexxi> you mean apt-get update
[11:05] <drexxi> ?
[11:05] <drexxi> ^^
[11:05] <khermans> FYI, not entirely sure then
[11:05] <khermans> ajax4, anything is possible
[11:05] <khermans> ajax4, buy them a Canonical support subscription
[11:05] <khermans> :-)
[11:06] <khermans> drexxi, no i mean -> sudo aptitude update, which is equivalent
[11:06] <drexxi> khermans,  i changed them and i dud update but still the same error
[11:06] <slackmagic> gregor: xev is what you're looking for
[11:06] <ajax4> Ok guys, I'm gonna reboot with the nvidia changes. Wish me luck :)
[11:06] <khermans> what is the exact error?
[11:07] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/
[11:07] <Jared> I wihs two proggies could use sudo at the same time.
[11:07] <khermans> ajax4 didnt need to reboot, just modprobe
[11:07] <khermans> oh well
[11:07] <khermans> Jared, ?
[11:07] <fargiolas> hi i'm trying to import some packages i've downloaded into synaptic.. these files are on a ssh share mounted with nautilus.. but those shares do not appear in the gtk file selection dialog called from synaptic.. is there a way to fix it? i think it's a common problem when using gksu
[11:07] <Jared> yes, khermans?
[11:07] <gregor> slackmagic: see above. i have tried it. some function keys generate events, thats fine. but some keys just stay dead without generating events
[11:07] <gregor> and thats the problem
[11:08] <khermans> Jared, sudo doesnt limit yo uto one prggie
[11:08] <Jared> well...not sudo but like apt-get
[11:08] <Jared> nm
[11:08] <Jared> hehe
[11:08] <Jared> I had a moment
[11:08] <slackmagic> gregor: which keys are those? and are you sure they're working?
[11:08] <Jared> khermans, why wouldn't edgy had shown up as an update?
[11:08] <drexxi> no one can help me?
[11:09] <khermans> Jared, yes apt is locked while operations are pending
[11:09] <khermans> Jared, you need to update first
[11:09] <khermans> we're at fiesty now
[11:09] <khermans> drexxi, i gave you lots of info
[11:10] <Jared> khermans, I already updated everythign else, just now started doing the update to edgy
[11:10] <drexxi> khermans, you said i should updatze that list and then apitude update
[11:10] <drexxi> i did that
[11:10] <fortitUs> hello everyone
[11:10] <drexxi> but i sill have the same problem
[11:10] <Jared> Ubuntu shoudl have a contest or something to pick the new name of ubuntu...I would so tell tghem to make it twitchy turtle
[11:10] <fortitUs> for /proc/PID/statm <- do i sum all the numbers to get total memory use? >_<
[11:10] <Jared> :P
[11:11] <khermans> drexxi, show me your apt sources again
[11:11] <darkfena313> im a new linux user, what is a good site for downloading the software i need
[11:11] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24825/
[11:11] <khermans> Jared, its somewhat alphabetical order
[11:11] <Jared> darkfena313, most stuff you can get from synaptic.
[11:11] <niekie> darkfena313: you can download most software you need without going to a website.
[11:11] <Jared> what was the first one?
[11:11] <niekie> Hi Jared!
[11:11] <khermans> after gutsy gibbon?  maybe Hairy Harley
[11:11] <gregor> slackmagic: http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/S510.jpg the working keys are the ones on the right side, except "shuffle". on the left side, only the "home" key works. all other keys are not (including the "mode" ones on the top
[11:11] <Jared> hi niekie ...
[11:12] <khermans> but we alreayd had Hoary Hedgehog
[11:12] <niekie> You the Jared I know from somewhere else? :)
[11:12] <fortitUs> and um how do i find the PID of a program within the program itself?
[11:12] <Jared> Don't think so...
[11:12] <Jared> My usual nickname is KI4IKL
[11:12] <slackmagic> gregor: http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/S510.jpg not found or it was still uploading
[11:12] <owner> Hi there
[11:12] <KI4IKL> This isn't my nick.
[11:12] <owner> Can someone please give me link from program to record desktop ?
[11:12] <owner> please
[11:12] <owner> for*
[11:13] <khermans> fortitUs, pidof ?
[11:13] <sldkfj> drexxi, what's wrong with this one?        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24820/
[11:13] <Gerro> owner: hmm you can use image magick and a script to grag a session of screenshots and make a movie out o fit
[11:13] <khermans> owner, vnc2swf
[11:13] <Tobias43> Love your submarine sandwiches, Jared.
[11:13] <Gerro> owner: but its not good quality
[11:13] <fortitUs> khermans: PID of the program itself
[11:13] <owner> khermans:  can u link it please ?
[11:13] <KI4IKL> haha...I'm not old enough to even have a job...I hope it's another jared making those sammiches :)
[11:14] <drexxi> sldkfj, nothing y?
[11:14] <khermans> fortitUs, getpid
[11:14] <slackmagic> gregor: veru strange couldn't wget it due to 404 error but display url worked just fine..o.O
[11:14] <fortitUs> khermans: thanks
[11:14] <KI4IKL> More 12 year olds should use linux :)
[11:14] <fortitUs> khermans: where is there under? >_<
[11:14] <ajax4> Well guys, no luck with my xorg/nvidia problem under -16.
[11:14] <khermans> KI4IKL, my bro has been using linux as main os since he was 7
[11:14] <gregor> slackmagic yes, strange indeed*g
[11:14] <khermans> heh, going on 3 years now
[11:15] <Gerro> KI4KIKL: my 6 year old brother uses linux all the time
[11:15] <KI4IKL> Neat...I started using it a year ago when I was 11
[11:15] <khermans> fortitUs, getpid() is a c call
[11:15] <khermans> fortitUs, so libc
[11:15] <sldkfj> drexxi, maybe this whole process isn't important, but if it was and I were you, I'd give it a try
[11:15] <owner> khermans:  can u link it please ?
[11:16] <khermans> googl vnc2swf
[11:16] <KI4IKL> How much does canonical support cost?
[11:16] <fortitUs> khermans: its a c program
[11:16] <khermans> fortitUs, right
[11:16] <khermans> KI4IKL, a few hndred
[11:16] <KI4IKL> For how long???
[11:16] <fortitUs> khermans: can i pass it like: /proc/getpid()/statm
[11:17] <khermans> KI4IKL, dpends on length and incidents
[11:17] <sldkfj> drexxi, I actually don't know about Dapper. but in synaptic/custom filters there should be a broken section that shows what is broken like that return the terminal gave you earlier stated.  find out what it is and take care of it
[11:17] <slackmagic> gregor: what's the model of this? i don't see why it wouldn't work, unless logitech just wants these to work under windows only...might want to google for that with 'logitech model AND .Xmodmap AND xev" and see what you get
[11:17] <khermans> fortitUs, no getpid returns the pid of your process
[11:17] <khermans> thats an int
[11:17] <fortitUs> um yea :D i mean i will sprintf it or something
[11:17] <mrynit> what is the command that commbinds sudo and gedit?
[11:17] <drexxi> sldkfj, this is a server ther is no synaptics
[11:18] <mrynit> its like sgkedit
[11:18] <sldkfj> gksudo gedit  /blah/blah
[11:18] <gregor> slackmagic, its a Logitech S510
[11:18] <khermans> fortitUs, sue you could
[11:18] <slackmagic> gregor: it's a nice lookig keyboard though..mine is years old and has a sticky e and stick F4 key
[11:18] <conatic> I have dl the new ubuntu but ubuntu is slow, my cdrom drive is always busy is it a correct iso or not ?
[11:18] <slackmagic>  Logitech S510
[11:18] <sldkfj> drexxi, you got aptitude?
[11:18] <sldkfj> that has a broken section
[11:19] <drexxi> yes
[11:19] <lina_> do new files or files downloaded from the internet have executable permissions by default?
[11:19] <drexxi> but i dont know that program, tell me what to do plz
[11:20] <fortitUs> khermans: do you know what the numbers on the mstat signify?
[11:20] <sldkfj> 'sudo aptitude'   will open it
[11:20] <fortitUs> i am parsing them to find the memory usage by the process..
[11:21] <lina_> like, if i download a text file from a unix server that has the executable bit set, will that be preserved?
[11:21] <khermans> fortitUs, no
[11:21] <fortitUs> damm :( thanks alot
[11:21] <DarkED> lina_: i'm pretty sure it wont
[11:21] <fortitUs> i mean really thanks alot :D
[11:21] <DarkED> lina_: thats why we have to do chmod +x for .bin files
[11:21] <drexxi> could someone help me with  <IP_ADDRESS>-xen and build-essential
[11:21] <Tobias43> Hmm, explain to me what the first number of chmod is? I know it's rarely used, but what is it?
[11:22] <MPS> hi, anyone an idea how to put my wlan card under feisty in monitor mode so that they will stay in monitormode and doesn't switch back to managed mode?
[11:22] <KI4IKL> Does anyone know a like "UBuntu Certified" type thing sorta like "Windows Certified"
[11:22] <sldkfj> with the cursor arrow click 'search'   find 'broken'
[11:22] <DarkED> KI4IKL: Windows Certified means "Give us$10,000 for a license and we'll call you certified."
[11:22] <jay_> what package is needed for banshee to transcode mp3's in feisty
[11:23] <KI4IKL> yeah :S
[11:23] <magnetron> KI4IKL: yes, it exists
[11:23] <DarkED> KI4IKL: Ubuntu does not need it :)
[11:23] <KI4IKL> Is there anything at all like that related to linux?
[11:23] <lina_> DarkED: but i seem to be able to run scripts off the bat without chmoding them.. i havent changed the ssytem at all
[11:23] <KI4IKL> Yeah...
[11:23] <khermans> gregor, http://tbirdd.ath.cx/helpxmodmap.html
[11:23] <magnetron> DarkED: think before you speak. there exists ubuntu certified stuff!
[11:23] <drexxi> yeah novell instructor and something like this exist
[11:23] <DarkED> lina_: you mean like running bash scripts and such? yeah, i dont think they have to be executables
[11:23] <KI4IKL> magnetron, if it does exist, where do I go to see about it.
[11:23] <slackmagic> gregor: so those specific keys do not give you any kind of keycode via xev is that right?
[11:24] <DarkED> magnetron: yes i understand but it was only a little joke
[11:24] <khermans> gregor, the link i sent yu solves al your issues
[11:24] <gregor> khermans thanks a lot, i'll have a look
[11:24] <magnetron> KI4IKL: www.ubuntu.com , click "partners" in the upper right corner
[11:24] <lina_> DarkED: I am just thinking about that dodgey openoffice "badbunny" worm.. it copys a script to an xchat directory
[11:24] <KI4IKL> is it bad that it is 4:30 in the morning and i'm not tired?
[11:25] <lina_> DarkED: shell scripts do have to be set executable.. or you couldn't execute it
[11:25] <magnetron> KI4IKL: yes, thats bad
[11:25] <khermans> gregor, np
[11:25] <mrmonday> I'm trying to install kubuntu in virtual box, but I get errors before I can get to a GUI
[11:25] <MPS> no one an idea?
[11:25] <DarkED> lina_: yes that is true, this is one of the reasons linux is so secure agains spyware/virii
[11:25] <jay_> KI4IKL: not so bad
[11:25] <khermans> mrmonday, what errors?
[11:26] <sldkfj> write down that package name and find quit in the normal place to close aptitude and go back to the terminal..... then in the terminal type:      sudo aptitude -f <that package name>
[11:26] <jay_>  what package is needed for banshee to transcode mp3's in feisty
[11:26] <khermans> MPS, you cant use ndiswrapper
[11:26] <DarkED> lina_: er, .bin's are not shell scripts. .bin's are binary executables, and yes, they have to be chmodded +x before executing
[11:26] <DarkED> lina_: perhaps shell scripts do as well... i cant remember heh
[11:26] <MPS> khermans: i don't use ndiswrapper
[11:26] <MPS> khermans: using ipw2200
[11:27] <khermans> jay_, libmp3  liblame /
[11:27] <khermans> ?
[11:27] <DarkED> lina_: but the thing is, when you download a file, your linux system gives it permissions depening on which users downloads it (user accout, root, etc.) but it is never set executable by default
[11:27] <mrmonday> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 309572
[11:27] <lina_> DarkED: i am aware that a .bin generaly is a binary application file.. but shell scripts still need the executable bit set
[11:27] <mrmonday> is one of them
[11:27] <lina_> DarkED: will test that
[11:27] <khermans> DarkED, .bin is insignificant
[11:27] <sldkfj> ok, I'm sleepy enough now, I can get back to what I was previously involved in.
[11:27] <MPS> khermans: seems something to do with wpa_supplicant. but if i kill it, it works but i don't get my network able to connect to my wpa network
[11:27] <mrmonday> I also get SQUASHFS errors
[11:27] <DarkED> lina_: ok, so shell scripts do need the executable bit
[11:27] <khermans> MPS, iwconfig eth0 mode monitor ?
[11:27] <magnetron> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | jay_
[11:27] <ubotu> jay_: ubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[11:28] <MPS> khermans: yes, it puts it shorty in monitor mode, but wpa supplicant puts it back into managed mode.
[11:28] <khermans> MPS, dunno, could be network manager screwing with ya
[11:28] <snikker> i've run debsum and i've a lot of "no md5sums for ..." why this?
[11:28] <jay_> magnetron: many thank u's
[11:28] <MPS> khermans: possible, any idea how to stop it proper? no kill -9 xyz
[11:29] <DarkED> snikker: perhaps it does not have an md5sum to hash against?
[11:29] <khermans> MPS, kill nm-applet
[11:29] <magnetron> jay_: make sure you enable the multiverse repository
[11:29] <MPS> khermans: it's not just the applet. there must be a daemon that runs as root
[11:29] <MPS> khermans: also tried this
[11:29] <jay_> done that. all packages downloaded and installed restarting banshee
[11:30] <Peppery> Hi. I was wondering if it would be possible to install Windows Vista onto a partition, Ubuntu on to another partition, then from within Ubuntu use Windows (QEMU or VMWare?) in a VM, and then boot into Vista and use Ubuntu in a VM
[11:30] <scales> where can i find c:\windows folder?
[11:30] <snikker> DarkED: yes, but a standard files (as binutils, at, bzip2, and so on) should have it. or i'm wrong?
[11:30] <errno_> horde
[11:30] <Gerro> Peppery: or run ubuntu with wine that can emulate all windows and vista then use beryl for all the eye candy so superior to vista theme :)
[11:30] <jay_> will this convert my ogg files in order to copy to ipod only or permanently
[11:31] <Supaplex> Peppery: like www.googbye-windows.com or something? and dual boot?
[11:31] <MPS> khermans: i think NetworkManager could be the problem accordingly to the man page
[11:31] <DarkED> snikker: hmm, i'm not sure which files have an md5 embedded and which dont...
[11:31] <scales> where can i find c:\windows folder?
[11:31] <[2hype] > /home/username/.wine/drive_c/windows
[11:31] <lina_> DarkED: well, i made a ls.sh (containing only /bin/ls) on my webserver and set the exectuable bit. i then downloaded it to ubuntu and ran "/bin/bash ls.sh" this worked
[11:31] <ompaul> jay_, you can also use rockbox on your ipod and use ogg
[11:31] <snikker> DarkED: ok
[11:31] <Gerro> scales: do ls -a to see hidden folders with "."
[11:31] <ompaul> jay_, sorry on most ipods
[11:32] <jay_> 5g video?
[11:32] <lina_> DarkED: although the executable bit is actually not preserved it seems
[11:32] <ArchebuS> can anyone answer me a scripting question ?
[11:32] <ompaul> jay_, let me check
[11:32] <lina_> ArchebuS: which?
[11:32] <DarkED> lina_: so the script ran without setting it executable?
[11:32] <magnetron> !anyone | ArchebuS
[11:32] <ubotu> ArchebuS: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:32] <ArchebuS> i wanna use read
[11:32] <ArchebuS> as in to read a yes or no answer
[11:33] <ArchebuS> but i dont want the user to have to press enter
[11:33] <r3tex> anyone here know if thunderbird 2.0 and Pidgin 2.0 are coming to Feisty Backports?
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: if you type /bin/bash whatever.sh then yeah
[11:33] <ompaul> jay_, from the rockbox.org website Apple: iPod 4th gen (grayscale and color), 5th/5.5th gen video, 1st gen Nano and Mini 1st/2nd gen (Nano 2nd gen is not supported)
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: wget www.mrintegrity.net/~variant/ls.sh
[11:33] <ompaul> jay_, there is a #rockbox on freenode :)
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: it has the +x set on the server
[11:33] <khermans> Peppery, vmware supports RAW DISK option
[11:33] <rob_p> DarkED, lina_:  You only need to set your shell script executable if you don't call it with the command interpreter.  Otherwise you do.
[11:33] <DarkED> lina_: yeah
[11:33] <jay_> afraid of bricking my ipod
[11:33] <jay_> hmmm seems interesting
[11:33] <cox377> is there a command for reloading usb devices?
[11:34] <DarkED> jay_
[11:34] <lina_> rob_p: i see
[11:34] <DarkED> er whoops
[11:34] <jay_> apt-get install rockbox ;p
[11:34] <DarkED> jay_: install rockboz on your ipod
[11:34] <DarkED> rockbox* even
[11:34] <sahil> anyone know how to make a text look like a waterwark or faded type effect in openoffice word processor
[11:34] <lina_> cox377: mount -o remount /dev/sdwhatever
[11:35] <lina_> DarkED: rob_p thanks!
[11:35] <cox377> lina_: it's not a flash drive, it's a usb KVM switch, for some reason since i have upgraded from kubuntu 606 to ubuntu 704 it doesnt always retake and i have to reboot every time
[11:35] <cox377> lina_: i've got a keyboard hooked up via ps2 but i was wondering if there is a way to reload all usb
[11:35] <darkfena313> in order to view certain pages i require flashplayer i wan to know before i download  it if its compatible with linux
[11:35] <zacherri1> yes darkfena
[11:36] <darkfena313> ok thanks
[11:36] <[2hype] > Web browsing with azureus open ::not downloading:: is generally fast, as soon as a torrent begins to download..even if it's 1kb/s, web pages that would normally take a quarter of a second to load now take 20 seconds. What would cause this?
[11:36] <DarkED> darkfena313: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:36] <cox377> anyone?
[11:37] <darkfena313> DarkED i dont know what your saying
[11:37] <DarkED> [2hype] : open connection settings in azureus and decrease the number of outgoing/incoming connections
[11:37] <Plantain> what format does ubuntu format disks as by default?
[11:37] <DarkED> darkfena313: use that command to install flashplayer 9 plugin
[11:37] <tom__> Morning Everyone - Had ubuntu installed for 24 hours and so far so good =) However the only way to get my bluetooth mouse and keyboard to work is to dissconnect and re-connect it at the login screen. Is there a way to automate this ?
[11:38] <DarkED> [2hype] : if you decrease the incoming/outgoing connections you should see webpages load a little faster, utorrent has this same issue in windows
[11:38] <roryy> Plantain: default filesystem type is ext3 (a standard linux filesystem type)
[11:38] <Plantain> ahh, thanks
[11:38] <darkfena313> DarkED where do i type in that command
[11:38] <[2hype] > gotcha, i'll give it a shot. Thanks DarkED
[11:38] <DarkED> darkfena313: in a terminal
[11:38] <darkfena313> im not a computer wiz
[11:38] <spike_s> Plantain, you still use floppies? wow!
[11:38] <DarkED> [2hype] : no prob, hope it works for you :)
[11:39] <Frogzoo> darkfena313: you want the non free flash from the repos
[11:39] <roryy> Plantain: oh, you meant floppies?  no, that might be different
[11:39] <spike_s> Plantain, I suspect floppies are formatted for DOS/Windows
[11:39] <Frogzoo> darkfena313:  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <Plantain> huh?
[11:39] <darkfena313> Frogzoo what to you mean?
[11:39] <Plantain> Who said floppies?
[11:39] <cox377> !restart usb
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restart usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <gregor> khermans the link is good, but the approach described there (testing output with dmesg) does not create results.. i can't find these "unknown key" messages in dmesg
[11:40] <roryy> Plantain: not you.  i had a late night, sorry ;)
[11:40] <spike_s> Plantain, oh sorry, when you said "disks" I assumed something removeable and small
[11:40] <Gerro> !boobies
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boobies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Gerro> mmkay
[11:41] <spike_s> ok.. so is this channel considered a general help channel for ubuntu or just a random ubuntu channel that people hang in.. I'm asking now so I don't get flammed or blammed for trolling or anything.
[11:41] <roryy> spike_s: support channel.  join us on #ubuntu-offtopic for random chatter
[11:41] <spike_s> ahh ok
[11:42] <alexises> hello i have a problem for recep a connection to ssh protocol
[11:42] <esperegu> How can I add a menu? So that I will have 'Applications - Places - System - MYMENU'
[11:42] <Gerro> spike_s: there also ubuntu-effects
[11:42] <alexises> my routeur is configuret tu accepter the 22 port and iptable
[11:42] <gregor> khermans: looking through the system logs, i found this line: "from config file: CustomKeycodes disabled" could that be the cause?*g
[11:42] <ccooke> esperegu: Right click on the menu, choose "edit menu"
[11:42] <spike_s> can anyone here help me figure out what kind of processor this system I'm on has.. it refuses to boot the 64-bit Feisty Fawn
[11:43] <spike_s> I've not used Linux in quite some time, this is taking.. getting used to.
[11:43] <spike_s> it's so visually different than it used to be.
[11:43] <esperegu> ccooke: I can then add items to 'Applications' and 'System' but pressing 'New Menu' adds a menu below 'Applications' while I want it on the same level
[11:44] <slackmagic> alexises:  http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#send-dhcp
[11:44] <ccooke> esperegu: Ah. That I don't *think* is so easy
[11:45] <esperegu> ccooke: it should be... I tried to add a custom menu to the panel but then I get the same menu twice.
[11:46] <spike_s> ok is an RSS reader required or will Firefox handle that without issues?
[11:46] <graveson1> how do i configure tv out. I have a HP DV 4000 laptop ?
[11:47] <avaj> hi guys
[11:47] <ccooke> esperegu: I don't think Gnome supports that without a seperate application to make the extra menu
[11:47] <tom__> Morning Everyone - Had ubuntu installed for 24 hours and so far so good =) However the only way to get my bluetooth mouse and keyboard to work is to dissconnect and re-connect it at the login screen. Is there a way to automate this ?
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: there *is* something you can do, though
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: If you right click on the panel, select "add to panel"
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: choose the Drawer option
[11:48] <esperegu> ccooke: I have that.
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: Right.
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: I think that's the best you can do.
[11:49] <esperegu> but then I can't seem to get a text next to the icons in that
[11:49] <slackmagic> graveson1:    http://www.google.com/search?q=HP+DV4000+twinview&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[11:49] <karine> hi! how do i set specific settings of my screensavers?
[11:49] <esperegu> ccooke: is it posible that the drawer shows the name next to the icon?
[11:49] <ccooke> esperegu: I suspect if it can, it'll be a per-icon setting
[11:49] <slackmagic> graveson1: basically google for twinview, xorg.conf and your HP DV4000
[11:50] <graveson1> slackmagic: i was using the wrong keywords
[11:50] <ccooke> esperegu: it's just another type of panel - some of the things that are added to the panel can display as text instead (or in addition) to icons
[11:50] <fortitUs> hi does anyone know what statm outputs?
[11:50] <roryy> tom__: like this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/79394    there's a workaround given there
[11:50] <jbs> hi all
[11:50] <slackmagic> graveson1: np and good luck
[11:50] <esperegu> ccooke: any chance u know how? I did not seem to get it done (that's why I switched to menu)
[11:51] <jbs> how can i download...clock application ?
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: it's an option on the individual icons, not on the drawer.
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: and not all will have it
[11:51] <jbs> may i question of...
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: basically, it's unlikely it'll do what you want.
[11:51] <tom__> rorry - Thanks Man - i will give it a shot now =)
[11:51] <esperegu> ccooke: :-(
[11:51] <alexises> slackmagic i don't understand that the documentation can help me
[11:52] <slackmagic> jbs: try ...   xclock :P
[11:52] <rinky> my /var/log/messages shows records of "localhost exiting on signal 15" and "localhost syslogd 1.4.1~17ubuntu7: restart" just one second later, but I have no recollection of asking it to do any of this, anyone know what it could be? seems to happen on its own
[11:52] <jbs> may be...
[11:52] <slackmagic> alexises: did you say that you couldn't remotely connect to one of your ubuntu systems via ssh?
[11:52] <jbs> i wanna clock program
[11:53] <jbs> xclock? is it contained on 7.04 ?
[11:54] <alexises> slackmagic yes i have a timeout error
[11:54] <ccooke> jbs: yes
[11:54] <slackmagic> jbs: should be..but i am not sure..don't use ubuntu..if not i'm sure a simple    sudo apt-cache search xclock    will give you some more hints if it's available
[11:54] <slackmagic> alexises: sorry meant to give you this link      http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#remote-access
[11:55] <spike_s> you guys are nice, but incredibly busy
[11:55] <BigError> hi all
[11:56] <spike_s> hi BigError
[11:56] <alexises> slackmagi i have do not use the link (zsorry i speak french but the french irc can't help me)
[11:56] <Gerro> spike_s: what you need?
[11:56] <roryy> karine: i think it might not be possible with gnome screensavers.  Maybe the xscreensaver package offers customizable screensavers, though I'm not sure.
[11:56] <alexises> slackmagic i am the king of the error
[11:56] <slackmagic> alexises:  je sais parler un peu francais
[11:57] <jbs> hum ..how can i download..desktop clock program ?
[11:57] <roryy> spike_s: try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' to get cpu information.  'uname -a' to see what sort of kernel you're running
[11:57] <spike_s> Gerro, well I'm really looking for recommendations, I'm setting up this system for my Niece who is a non-geek and thought I'd go with Ubuntu for her, I've not used Linux in years, I'm mainly a Mac OS X user.. but I figured.. hey.. what the heck this might work well.. anyways.. any recommendations on software for a newbie?
[11:57] <slackmagic> alexises: il faut visiter cette link ..c'est pour installer ton ssh
[11:57] <karine> rorryy, not possible?
[11:57] <rinky> anyone know what "localhost exiting on signal 15" means? I get it once a day on my /usr/var/messages
[11:57] <BigError> I updated from 6.10 to 7.04 and now my windowspartition is empty, while i did not touch it... Ideas??
[11:57] <Gerro> karine: if its in gnome its customizable, gnome is fully open source so have a good go at those screen savers
[11:57] <mrmonday> What is the password for a Kubuntu live CD?
[11:57] <alexises> sclackmagic thenks if you can say  thin in fren can do pease ifelse speak es in english
[11:57] <jbs> hum
[11:58] <rinky> mrmonday: I think its a blank password?
[11:58] <roryy> karine: you can adjust the idle time ( settings -> preferences -> screensaver), but i see no way to change the settings of a *particular* screensaver
[11:58] <alexises> ubuntu ?
[11:58] <jbs> ;) sorry i cant english.....so short
[11:58] <spike_s> roryy, I'm using Fiesty Fawn 32bit currently with all updates.. it's a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz I don't understand why this processor isn't 64-bit I assumed all P4's above 2Ghz would be, am I wrong in that? I don't use Intel processors before Core 2 Duo usually.
[11:58] <slackmagic> alexises:  uh..qoui? :D
[11:58] <slackmagic> ifelse?
[11:58] <mrmonday> rinky, I have tried ubuntu no pass, but it just restarts X
[11:58] <Gerro> spike_s: ooh might want to try xubuntu with redmondxp theme, make sure you grab adobe flash and sun java from synaptic. and a nice video player for ubuntu is totem (should grab all those gstreamer plugins so you can play all videos)
[11:58] <mrmonday> kubuntu won't work
[11:58] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: if you are trying a vmware machine look for the nfo...you might find it in there
[11:59] <Gerro> spike_s: my sister plays around on my linux box all the time loves it
[11:59] <rinky> mrmonday: when you enter an incorrect password, your x restarts?
[11:59] <alexises> slackmagi if you can say it do it please if not speak in english thenks
[11:59] <mrmonday> rinky, only for ubuntu, no pass
[11:59] <slackmagic> mrmonday: it's not set..but you can set one       sudo passwd
[11:59] <xif> Hi. I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless network with Feisty, anyone care to help?
[12:00] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, where can I find that? Is there one for Virtual box?
[12:00] <xif> the wireless card driver is installed, and Feisty recognizes it
[12:00] <spike_s> alexises, the proper phrase would be "Parle Vous Francais por favor?"
[12:00] <slackmagic> alexises: good tip!
[12:00] <mrmonday> slackmagic, I can't get to a CLI
[12:00] <xif> I can also see the network I'm trying to connect to
[12:00] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: are you trying a pre-configurred vmware machine?
[12:00] <vladuz976> anybody know how to make histograms with openoffice? it seems that function is missing and really badly needed for a spreadsheet
[12:00] <xif> but when I try to connect to it, it doesn't work.
[12:00] <Gerro> spike_s: does your neice game at all? there is also wine package from winehq if she needs a few windows apps, and gaim/pidgin is kind of screwy in development now so might want to try amsn or another multi client
[12:00] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, I'm using virtual box
[12:00] <Kenth> ha, wrong root-path causing ltsp not to boot
[12:00] <roryy> spike_s: actually, after looking at the output of /proc/cpuinfo, it's not obvious to me how to tell what sort of processor one has.
[12:00] <Kenth> fixed, ltsp working fine
[12:00] <alexises> yes spike_s
[12:00] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: ok, and you did a install with an image you had?
[12:00] <spike_s> BigError, I suspect something wiped your Windows NT Partition table
[12:00] <slackmagic> mrmonday: open a terminal, type in that command    or use    CTRL+ALT+F2-F6
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: i meant u booted with the livecd you had
[12:01] <gharz> guys, what's the command to completely remove an application? everytime i run aptitude remove --purge <app>... the configuration is not deleted.
[12:01] <spike_s> try doing a repair on NTFS from a NT/2k/XP/2k3/Vista CD/DVD and see what happens, then reinstall your boot-loader.
[12:01] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, yes
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: or using a pre-configurred livecd image?
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: gimme a sec
[12:01] <alexises> slackmagic what i must du i have open the port in iptabla and my router but it is not open for the web test
[12:01] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, I am using the iimage I got off ubuntu.com
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: what version?
[12:02] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, kubuntu 7.04
[12:02] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: a sec
[12:02] <mrynit> what is the difference in placing a symbolic link in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[12:02] <rinky> aptitude purge packagname
[12:02] <slackmagic> spike_s: actually it's Parlez-vous francais s'il vous plait?    :P
[12:02] <BigError> spike_s would the other partitions still work in that case? cause they do..
[12:02] <Enverex> !bluetooth
[12:02] <rob_p> gharz: Or, type, "sudo apt-get --purge remove --assume-yes <package>" at the command line.
[12:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:03] <kraut> moin
[12:03] <gharz> rinky, isn't the command aptitude remove --purge package still the same?
[12:03] <gharz> rob_p, i executed sudo bash
[12:03] <yaeyo> Hi all, is there any chance of getting ati fglrx (x1600) to output just to the external monitor?
[12:03] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: whats the username:password you tried?
[12:03] <darkfena313> what is synaptic?
[12:03] <DJ-_-> !synaptic | darkfena313
[12:03] <ubotu> darkfena313: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:03] <rob_p> gharz: k
[12:03] <ccooke> darkfena313: the package manager used by default in Ubuntu
[12:04] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, tried ubuntu, ubuntu;ubuntu, blank;kubuntu blank
[12:04] <rinky> gharz, i think apt-get accepts --purge as an argument, but aptitude accepts purge as a command, not certain
[12:04] <spike_s> Gerro, she mainly wants to use the system for work, and for some gaming I may put the wine pkg on, if I can grok it, I think I'll stick with gaim actually since I'm a little experienced with it from Win32 and Mac OS X.
[12:04] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: did you try ubuntu:blank
[12:04] <DJ-_-> brb - fone
[12:04] <BigError_> I updated from 6.10 to 7.04 and now my windowspartition is empty, while i did not touch it... Ideas??
[12:04] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, yes
[12:04] <slackmagic> mrmonday: as I said you can try as many passwords as you want..it won't let you in as root since there is no root password set..you've got to find a way to set it via   sudo passwd    (terminal, or any of the ttys : ALT+CTRL+ F2-F6)
[12:05] <Gerro> spike_s: well amsn has awesome webcam/audio support, few of my buds have some cams too
[12:05] <mrmonday> slackmagic, I can't get to a CLI, as I'm stuck at a login screen
[12:06] <slackmagic> mrmonday: like i said  please try         ALT+CTRL+F2   , change the password, then get back to your X window with   ALT+CTRL + F7
[12:06] <kane77> how can I make beagle store its indexing on other disk?
[12:06] <ccooke> mrmonday: What image did you download? do you happen to remember the URL?
[12:07] <Gerro> spike_s: if you really want to get creative and wow her with its performance: http://blog.lxpages.com/2007/04/24/ubuntu-performance-guides/
[12:07] <ccooke> kane77: Easily enough. Is the other disk already mounted?
[12:07] <kane77> ccooke, yes
[12:07] <ramorek> hello all
[12:07] <ramorek> i was wondering can i log out to start another session while im connected via NX ?
[12:07] <mrmonday> ccooke, no, sorry
[12:07] <mrmonday> slackmagic, it won't do it for the VM
[12:08] <mrmonday> slackmagic, it does it for me...
[12:08] <joe_> someone want to look over this simple script i wrote and see if it looks ok ?   mostly its the fluxbox menu part i am wondering about.
[12:08] <seb__> hola
[12:08] <joe_> http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:08] <ccooke> kane77: the overview of what you do is: Move the beagle directory to the other disk, then create a symbolic link from there to your home directory.
[12:08] <ramorek> i was wondering can i log out to start another session while im connected via NX ?
[12:08] <ccooke> kane77: is the other disk a unix filesystem? not ntfs or fat?
[12:09] <kane77> ccooke, unfortunately not... it's fat
[12:09] <ccooke> kane77: Right. That's more of a problem I think.
[12:09] <ccooke> kane77: damn, door. BRB
[12:09] <spike_s> BigError, yes, the other partitions would still work, Linux ignores the NTFS usually and same from XP/Vista
[12:10] <arooni> where should i put a .jar file that i want to be able to run from any directory?  and how do i run it?
[12:10] <slackmagic> joe_: menu file looks fine to me..don't know why anyone would want Xev under Development menu but it looks ok :P
[12:10] <yaeyo> Anyone with ati fglrx driver experience around ?
[12:10] <joe_> slackmagic  i mean the part in the script that sticks it in the .fluxbox dir
[12:10] <joe_> slackmagic wasn't sure how to do that
[12:11] <kane77> arooni, create a script something like java -jar nameofthefile.jar and make it runnable (chmod +x) and put it in /usr/bin
[12:11] <roryy> arooni: run it with 'java -jar file.jar'
[12:11] <slackmagic> arooni:  http://www.google.com/search?q=run+.jar+under+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:12] <joe_> arooni  any scripts you write, stick them in /usr/local/bin/   better there so you can find them and manage them better
[12:12] <slackmagic> joe_: ah that   that would be    wget http://joereid.homeip.net/menu --output-document=/home/username/.fluxbox/menu
[12:12] <joe_> slackmagic  ah.  that is exactly what i was wanting. thanks. :)
[12:12] <slackmagic> np
[12:13] <joe_> slackmagic  does ~ translate in the bash scripts ?
[12:13] <joe_> slackmagic or resolve i mean
[12:13] <ccooke> kane77: back, if you're still here
[12:13] <slackmagic> joe_: i would use the absolute path in this case
[12:13] <kane77> ccooke, yep
[12:13] <atlef> is it possible to save my list of podcasts in amarok, so i do not have to set it up at a later date?
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: I don't think beagle will work from a FAT filesystem
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: unless you do some unsafe things with your system
[12:14] <kane77> ccooke, ok, nevermind... thx anyway
[12:14] <spike_s> is this chan safe to idle in?
[12:14] <spike_s> or no?
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: the only other thing you could do is make a loopback filesystem on the fat partition, and store the beagle stuff in there
[12:14] <kane77> ccooke, does it automatically remove index files for removed files?
[12:15] <ccooke> kane77: Pass. I believe so
[12:15] <slackmagic> spike_s: if freenode kicked all idle folks here, it would be 2/3 empty :P
[12:15] <joe_> atlef  yeah, you can save like the whole folder, .kde/share/apps/amarok or something and it will save all that amarok stuff.   run the command: "find .kde |grep amarok" to get a list of where that stuff all is
[12:15] <atlef> thx
[12:16] <gonzoism> slackmagic  i changed nick.  was joe_    um.  if i go absolute, everyone has to have identical username or a symlink to their ~
[12:16] <atlef> joe_ : but does that work across amarok versions?
[12:17] <mrmonday> so does no one know what the password for a kubuntu live cd is?
[12:17] <gonzoism> atlef  yes. unless something horrible happens in amarok development.  most linux stuff is backwards compatible.
[12:17] <spike_s> slackmagic, ahh ok, lol
[12:17] <atlef> joe_: ok, i'll try that
[12:17] <slackmagic> gonzoism: then use  $HOME/.fluxbox/menu
[12:17] <gonzoism> mrmonday lol, it shouldn't be asking for one.  something is wrong.
[12:18] <gonzoism> slackmagic  :)
[12:18] <mrmonday> gonzoism, hmm
[12:18] <wibble> mrmonday, the username and password are usually on the same site that you downloaded the image from if it's a vmplayer image
[12:18] <gonzoism> lol, who is  <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:18] <gonzoism> ?
[12:18] <mrmonday> wibble, it is a normal CD image...
[12:19] <wibble> mrmonday, oops, sorry
[12:19] <slackmagic> gonzoism: might be them:       a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com
[12:19] <gonzoism> mrmonday is it coming up in like console or like normal ?  or what ?  cause you really shouldn't be asked for pw.
[12:19] <drexxi> beye
[12:19] <drexxi> bye*
[12:20] <mrmonday> gonzoism, like the normal KDE login screen
[12:21] <MattJ> Hi all. I installed a custom version of a package from source, using checkinstall. Now the update notifier keeps telling me it needs updating to the latest Feisty version. Is there a way to stop this?
[12:22] <atlef> envy, automatix2 or manual install of nvidia driver? which gives the best results for a new user
[12:22] <gonzoism> mrmonday  wow. i think passwords are disabled.   you might try dropping to the console and seeing if it is open, and if so, set a pw with passwd command. or look for a default user.  but really, you might try rebooting first, because you shouldn't be asked for one.  you might also try just pressing enter on blank user and pass and see if it defaults for you
[12:22] <wibble> mrmonday, are you installing a VM?
[12:22] <mrmonday> wibble, yes - Virtual box
[12:23] <roryy> atlef: i'd say the best results for a new user are to use the ubuntu provided drivers; the wiki should have installation instructions.
[12:23] <wibble> mrmonday, were asked to set the username and password during the install?
[12:24] <atlef> roryy : ok
[12:24] <mrmonday> gonzoism, tried all of them, and I can't drop to a console
[12:24] <slackmagic> mrmonday: can't believe you can't use CTRL+ALT+F1-F7 within virtualbox ...that's just ...sad
[12:24] <DarkED> how do i pause a wget -c that is currently in progress? i need to reboot
[12:24] <mrmonday> wibble, I haven't even got tto the install!
[12:24] <wibble> mrmonday, oh, I see your problem now
[12:25] <gonzoism> darkeD  ctrl-c it and then wget -c it when you come back.  might echo the url to a tmp file in your home dir first.
[12:25] <bottle> hi i want program for cutting from any photo?
[12:25] <slackmagic> mrmonday: you have no chance of getting to root if you can't drop to any of your other ttys ..since the password is not set and you would have to set one..sorry to say that
[12:25] <gonzoism> bottle gimp
[12:25] <gonzoism> bottle gnu image manipulation program.  gimp.
[12:25] <gonzoism> did anyone run that script ?
[12:26] <DavidHKMrPowers> can ubuntu read ntfs drives?
[12:26] <Jimmey> bottle, the GIMP
[12:26] <DarkED> gonzoism: echo the url to a temp file in my home dir?
[12:26] <bottle> gonzoism how can i cut from the photo?
[12:26] <frank_b> I get some horizontal lines when watching .vob video files. does anyone know if it's a codec problem or a linux ati driver problem?
[12:26] <wibble> mrmonday, I may be asking what you've already answered. But is it a live cd your booting?
[12:26] <bottle> Jimmy how?
[12:26] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yes
[12:26] <mrmonday> wibble, yes
[12:26] <gonzoism> bottle play with it.  there are gimp howtos everywhere.
[12:26] <Jimmey> bottle, try www.google.com for some tutorials
[12:26] <DarkED> DavidHKMrPowers: yes, it can also write to them using the ntfs-3g driver
[12:27] <finalbeta> There was an update yesterday for xvid library or something, today half my music doesn't play. Ubuntu updates are getting as dangerous as windows updates :P.
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: just one picture?
[12:27] <bottle> ya
[12:27] <crimsun> finalbeta: that was an sru for feisty.
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: or do you have to do that to hundreds of images
[12:27] <DarkED> finalbeta: lol... i'm sure there's a good explanation
[12:27] <wibble> mrmonday, did get a list of boot options? If so, did you was there an Install option.
[12:27] <spike_s> you know I think I just figured out that I need to have this running on a MacBook Pro under Parallels just to have it handy for support
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: display yourpictureyouwanttocutfrom.ext
[12:27] <crimsun> finalbeta: read the changelog to see which bug it fixed.
[12:27] <gonzoism> frank_b you might try changing the output or display setting.  like the xv or opengl option
[12:27] <spike_s> I'm really impressed with Ubuntu
[12:27] <mrmonday> wibble, tried all the options...
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: and run on another terminal or shell     import thenewcutfile.ext
[12:27] <spike_s> where SuSE 6.3 was almost a royal pain.. this thing is amazing.
[12:27] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey DarkED thanks! :D
[12:28] <slackmagic> click and choose what you want to cut out and there we go
[12:28] <spike_s> the package management is flawless.
[12:28] <DarkED> spike_s: yep, ubuntu is an incredible linux distro
[12:28] <Elko> Gday. How can I get a bigger resolution than 1440x900 on my laptop?  It's a GF-7300 and I put bigger modes in xorg.conf, but in the log it always says 'No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing'.
[12:28] <spike_s> I remember the Dark Days of Linux.. back when you chose a distro based on drivers and what hardware you had.
[12:28] <gonzoism> anyone here have a fresh install ?
[12:28] <frank_b> gonzoism, hmm, ok. I get the problem also in totem. can I change that in totem also?
[12:28] <luke__> hello, im a new linux user and i would like to know, is there any av programs for it? my dads a vuries protector freak
[12:28] <slackmagic> Elko: what laptop? brand/model ?
[12:29] <Jimmey> Elko, you need to make sure that the modes you're specifying are supported by your monitor
[12:29] <gonzoism> luke__  should be able to.  i like gmplayer
[12:29] <Jimmey> luke__, clamav
[12:29] <Elko> slackmagic: acer aspire 9302wsmi.
[12:29] <Elko> Jimmey: how do I find out the supported modes?
[12:29] <luke__> gmplayer clamav? could i have a link? please?
[12:29] <spike_s> Elko, do you have an Accellerated Server built for the GF-7300?
[12:29] <slackmagic> Elko: give me a sec ...has nothing to do with the video card...your laptop's screen has a resolution limit..just checking to see if you can go beyond what you have rigth now
[12:29] <Jimmey> Elko, do you have some documentation for your laptop?
[12:29] <frank_b> gonzoism, I'll look for that in totem also. thank you very much for your help :)
[12:29] <spike_s> it sounds like it's removing things you stick in cause it can't map them or something.
[12:29] <gonzoism> elko what video card ?  i have the aspire too
[12:30] <Elko> spike_s: Do you mean the NV 3-D acceleration? That works, compiz and beryl don't complain there.
[12:30] <gonzoism> anyone here have a fresh install of feisty ?
[12:30] <anandanbu> Does anybody know how to remove the hyperlink's in a document that is edited using openoffice.org word processor
[12:30] <Jimmey> gonzoism, yeah
[12:30] <Enverex> How do I connect to the serial device of a Bluetooth device?
[12:30] <Elko> gonzoism: NVidia GeForce Go 7300 TurboCache, that's what it says on the sticker.
[12:30] <spike_s> luke__, clamav which comes on the Knoppix Live disc/iso if I recall correctly..
[12:30] <spike_s> among other discs
[12:30] <Elko> Jimmey: 'fraid not.
[12:30] <gonzoism> jimmey  want to run my script ?  it will install a bunch of stuff for you.  cool stuff.  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt    i'm wanting to get it tested
[12:31] <luke__> thanks, ill look around
[12:31] <Jimmey> Elko, do you still have Windows installed?
[12:31] <Elko> Jimmey: lol, no.
[12:31] <luke__> i do lol
[12:31] <gonzoism> elko  k, i'm ati.  was gonna offer you my xorg.conf
[12:31] <Jimmey> gonzoism, what stuff?
[12:31] <spike_s> gonzoism, my install is fairly fresh did it yesterday, adding packages now, finished the updates tonight
[12:31] <Elko> Jimmey: That was the first thing I removed ;)
[12:31] <Elko> gonzoism: Thanks, but that's not going to work, no, heh
[12:32] <Elko> slackmagic: Where are you looking up that info?
[12:32] <luke__> downloading clam av now
[12:32] <gonzoism> jimmey um.  nes snes and sega emulators.  um...  kubuntu-desktop too, (you can look through the script and comment all the stuff you don't want out) automatix2, sox, aterm, like a general base of apps i like
[12:32] <slackmagic> 1440x900 is the max Elko
[12:32] <Elko> :(
[12:33] <slackmagic> Elko: good of course
[12:33] <Jimmey> luke__, the only real need for a Linux-antivirus is to make sure that you don't pass on infected files to Windows users. There aren't any real viruses for Linux
[12:33] <gonzoism> spike_s  take a look at that script.  maybe you want to copy and paste some of it.  the .screenrc and asciiquarium stuff is pretty cool.  also the aterm command.  http://joereid.homeip.net
[12:33] <TheGame1> Hi smart people, how do I select a random dir in a folder of hundreds of dirs (albums) and play all the contents with mplayer?
[12:34] <gonzoism> spike_s  oops, habit.   joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:34] <Jimmey> gonzoism, it's a bit harsh putting kubuntu-desktop in there, isn't it?
[12:34] <luke__> Jimmey: my dads a av freak he wants me to have it no matter what... im 12 and really intrested into comps i built the 1 im using
[12:34] <slackmagic> luke__: if it's a production system/server, might want to play with it, other than that I wouldn't even bother with AV protection
[12:34] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey DarkED can an ordinary ubuntu read ntfs?
[12:34] <gonzoism> spike_s  here is clickable.  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:34] <DavidHKMrPowers> i mean can a freshly installed ubuntu read ntfs?
[12:35] <slackmagic> TheGame1: mplayer /folderone/foldertwo/insidefolder/anotherterriblesubfolder/*
[12:35] <gonzoism> thegame1 lol, i liked the setup to that question...
[12:35] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: yes it can read, but read only
[12:35] <bart> hallo Ik ben Greetje, en ik zit naakt op bed
[12:35] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yeah. Type "sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS" into a terminal, and tell me what it says
[12:35] <slackmagic> TheGame1: my bad..you said random :D
[12:35] <TheGame1> Or, is there a command to select a random line from a list?
[12:35] <alexseif> ubuntu
[12:35] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: if you want write access, you need to install ntfs3g
[12:35] <neosimago> DavidHKMrPowers: yes. much of the kernel is modular, and ntfs support is modularized in the generic kernel.
[12:35] <spike_s> ahh gonzoism sorry, not putting any custom scripts on here, this system is targeted for a newbie, my account will only be fore remote admin.
[12:36] <DavidHKMrPowers> thanks guys!!
[12:36] <spike_s> and I normally don't use Linux
[12:36] <bart> hi i'm bart and i'm naked
[12:36] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, once Ubuntu's installed, it should mount the NTFS drive for reading automatically, and place a shortcut on your Desktop
[12:36] <spike_s> the thing that will suck is I have to find a Dialup ISP and a dialup modem for this Ubuntu
[12:36] <bart> mmmmmm
[12:37] <spike_s> I have an older modem that should work fine.. but I don't know if there's a firmware update out there to make it V.90 compliant
[12:37] <darkfena314> how do type in another language for OpenOffice?
[12:37] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey then i need to install something to be able to write on it?
[12:37] <neosimago> spike_s: why not order it shipped to your door?
[12:38] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: yes, there are a few options for installing write support, ntfs3g is the most popular I think
[12:38] <Ra|Ka>   http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6be4fie
[12:38] <DJ-_-> bk and I need help in finding a client to update my dns records with dyndns
[12:38] <spike_s> order what?
[12:38] <neosimago> order ubuntu on cd or dvd.
[12:38] <rinky> DavidHKPowers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite
[12:38] <spike_s> neosimago, I have high speed
[12:38] <neosimago> why download over modem?
[12:38] <rinky> anyone know what "localhost exiting on signal 15" means? I get it once a day on my /usr/var/messages
[12:38] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yes.
[12:39] <spike_s> I already have downloaded two iso's of Feisty Fawn and it's installed and running
[12:39] <spike_s> I'm just worried about trying to get a modem working on here for her
[12:39] <spike_s> it'd be really nice if I could put icons on the desktop
[12:39] <neosimago> ah... no worries.
[12:39] <spike_s> or something
[12:39] <DavidHKMrPowers> rinky Jimmey thanks :)
[12:39] <kamikaye> hey guys
[12:39] <neosimago> i've found that linux is very flexible to accomodate, especially older hardware.
[12:39] <luke__> does avg free work on linux?
[12:40] <kamikaye> i got a problem with the ati driver isntallation
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i don't think so... why would you want it?
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i think the best linux av, is ClamAV
[12:40] <spike_s> I'd like to have something where she clicks and it connects to the internet (I'm sure a panel button would do) and I'd love to have something where she clicks and it brings her to a chat session with me or a few other chat sessions
[12:40] <neosimago> luke__: looking for an antivirus solution? use clamAV
[12:40] <slackmagic> rinky:  http://www.google.com/search?q=localhost+exiting+on+signal+15+%2Fvar%2Flog%2Fmessages&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:41] <spike_s> I'd also love to have it where she clicks and it automatically sends me an email requesting a remote access session to fix a problem.
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> Linux AV is overkill however
[12:41] <spike_s> I know that most of that is wishful thinking.
[12:41] <kamikaye> so can someone help me?
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | kamikaye
[12:42] <ubotu> kamikaye: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <spike_s> neosimago, I kinda think of this system as NEW.. cause it's really fast and only the hard drive is "small" by todays standards, it really could benefit from a AGP video card separate from the motherboard,
[12:42] <spike_s> but it's not required
[12:42] <Enverex> !bluetooth
[12:42] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:43] <spike_s> the real tricks will be when I go to setup DVD video
[12:43] <spike_s> lol
[12:43] <neosimago> spike_s: then where do you seek insight from this company of fellow users?
[12:43] <gonzoism> lol, i joined #linux thinking i was in here.  i spent about 10 minutes at least until i figured it out
[12:43] <gonzoism> :)
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> spike_s: lol, why is tha ta trick?
[12:43] <kamikaye> yeah of course i read already a lot of how2s
[12:43] <kamikaye> but my problem ist that i installed the driver.run file with "./" and now i have to configure the driver with aticonfig --initial and that doesnt work and the driver now isnt completely installed and i also cant uninsall it
[12:44] <spike_s> neosimago, well I'm just used to doing everything the Macintosh way.. and putting up with Windows (any version) when I have to since I'm a DSL support tech by trade.
[12:44] <gonzoism> kamikaye you can use dpkg --force i think
[12:44] <kamikaye> k i'll give it a try
[12:44] <Trashkiller> lol :D
[12:44] <gonzoism> kamikaye or there might be a force option for apt-get  /search the man page and find out
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> one of these days, ubuntu will just buck up and put ATI drivers in the repos.
[12:45] <spike_s> I'm sure most of what I need is documented either on the Ubuntu forums or out on the web somewhere, but I enjoy having a chat channel behind me from time to time as I tend to idle wyld on Undernet helping others with their Mac issues.
[12:45] <neosimago> yet still, whats the insight you seek here spike_s?
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> but ati is the devil, get Nvidia.
[12:45] <kamikaye> im confused apt geht o0?? im new to this ..
[12:45] <spike_s> I'm not a stranger to Linux, heck my first distro I used was Red Hat 4.2 on a Pentium 100Mhz, but that was long ago before the age of MMX
[12:46] <gonzoism> so is anyone testing or going to test my script ?  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt  i'd love any input.  especiall if it runs all the way through or now.
[12:46] <gonzoism> or not
[12:46] <neosimago> well, that's the case, i'm a cousin to ubuntu with gentoo as a native tongue.
[12:46] <billy> hello folks, why is there no .profile create for user by default?
[12:46] <spike_s> neosimago, are you asking for what is the Zen influence that I want to achieve enlightenment with Linux or something?
[12:46] <gonzoism> kamikaye really, apt-get ? you don't know /
[12:46] <gonzoism> ?
[12:47] <spike_s> I'll ask my questions as they come to me..
[12:47] <neosimago> naww... hanging out is just fine.
[12:47] <gordboy> gonzoism, don't be a plonker. do you really think people are going to run your script ?
[12:47] <kamikaye> i really dont know cause im really new to this
[12:47] <luke__> plnoker, lol
[12:48] <spike_s> I kinda quit using Linux after SuSE 6.3 and I went back to using Mac OS X full time and then dealing with the various Microsoft things at work.
[12:48] <kamikaye> i used windows as long as i can remember
[12:48] <gonzoism> kamikaye   no problem
[12:48] <magnetron> gonzoism: that script will install automatix2 !!!
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:48] <gonzoism> kamikaye   learn this command:  sudo apt-get installl "program-name"     you can install this
[12:48] <magnetron> !automatix | gonzoism
[12:48] <ubotu> gonzoism: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:49] <spike_s> the idea here is because this system cannot run Windows for financial reasons of my niece.. I thought, ok, well her Dad gave her a really nice system with a blank hard drive.. I'll just fill in the blanks and put something that she should be able to handle on her own and grow with.
[12:49] <kamikaye> 7.04
[12:49] <spike_s> and I'll wait till she either thanks me or cries wolf.
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> automatix is a terrible idea, second, it doesn't install an ATI driver.
[12:49] <i386> using the ubuntu 7.04 live cd, can I resize the HFS partitions on my macbook?
[12:49] <gonzoism> kamikaye   its the main install thing.  its the command part of Synaptic.
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:50] <gonzoism> i don't think its a terrible idea.  not too much different of an idea than that script i wrote.
[12:50] <magnetron> gonzoism: don't hand that script out, it may seriously damage ppls computers
[12:50] <luke__> bluetooth not working on my linux, any sugustions?
[12:50] <madunix> any one running RHEL on p520 IBM system p?
[12:50] <rinky> i386: I dont think 7.04 has ntfsresize, which is part of ntfsprogs. On the other hand, ntfsresize might be built into Gparted, not sure
[12:50] <gonzoism> gordboy   yes
[12:50] <i386> luke__ install bluez-gnome
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> gonzoism: there's a lot of problems with it breaking systems.  I used it on dapper/edgy, never had a problem, seems the big issue, is when you try to upgrade your OS.
[12:50] <i386> rinky: HFS not NTFS
[12:50] <spike_s> i386, I would not use the live CD to resize HFS partitions on a MacBook
[12:50] <spike_s> EVER
[12:50] <gonzoism> IndyGunFreak  ah
[12:50] <luke__> how?
[12:50] <rinky> oops, sorry i386
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, there is a correct way to do that
[12:51] <gonzoism> i always do a clean install
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> gonzoism: but i always do clean installs instead of upgrade, so I've never had an issue.
[12:51] <i386> rinky using the package manager
[12:51] <i386> Synaptic
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, the correct way is to resize them using the Boot Camp utilities and then.. boot the Live CD
[12:51] <spike_s> go see the How-To on using Ubuntu with Boot Camp
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, OTOH you may want to think of using Ubuntu with the new Parallels
[12:51] <iulian_> hi, I have a problem with installing ubuntu 7.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1300: I can't create 2 more partitions (ext3 and swap); have any idea why?
[12:52] <kamikaye> the problem is that the half installed driver isnt shown in the synaptic paket manager, so i dont know how to uninstall it
[12:52] <i386> spike_s yeah I use VMWare fusion right now
[12:52] <gonzoism> kamikaye  there is a from dos/windows to linux howto over at tldp.org you might want to check it out.  it was the first one i read, and really helped wonders.  lots of general information and like a rosetta stone for anyone coming from windows
[12:52] <i386> spike_s but im thinking of working on gusy
[12:52] <spike_s> which supports 3D OpenGL and Direct X on Windows XP/Vista so it'll get interesting with Linux soon I'm sure.
[12:52] <i386> gusty*
[12:52] <lokk> can any one help me with this network problem i'm having
[12:52] <gonzoism> kamikaye   where were you installing from ?  like from source ?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: get an Nvidia card, it'll make your life better.
[12:53] <luke__> i386 how do i install bluez-gnome
[12:53] <kamikaye> at the installation i typed "./atidriverxXXxxxx.run
[12:53] <kamikaye> that was all
[12:53] <iulian_> can someoane help me? I can't create 2 partitions only one
[12:53] <i386> luke__ use Synaptic
[12:53] <DJ-_-> anyone know of a client for dyndns updating
[12:53] <luke__> the pack manager? kk
[12:53] <i386> luke__ look in the System Menu
[12:53] <iulian_> I want to have also windows and ubuntu
[12:53] <i386> luke__ yes
[12:54] <lokk> are there any known network issues with feisty fawn?
[12:54] <gonzoism> kamikaye  run this command:  file atidriverxXXxxxx.run   is it a bash script ? or what ?
[12:54] <gonzoism> DJ  yeah, they have a dyndns script at dyndns.org  i used it for years.
[12:55] <magnetron> DJ-_-: it's perfectly alright that you ask here, but you should also get yourself used to search in synaptic
[12:55] <gonzoism> DJ-_- they also have a graphical client.  also a web version, where you update on the web.   i think you can find the script from them on freshmeat.  try searching for dyndns
[12:55] <nux_usr> lokk:  What type of network problem(s) are you having?
[12:55] <kamikaye> root@alin:/home/alin/Desktop# file ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run
[12:55] <kamikaye> ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run: data
[12:56] <luke__> i368 i cant find bluez-gnome in the pack manager
[12:56] <DJ-_-> gonzoism: thx
[12:56] <DJ-_-> magnetron: thx
[12:56] <gonzoism> kamikaye did it error when you ran it ?
[12:56] <gonzoism> try ./atidriverxXXxxxx.run -help   or -uninstall
[12:56] <kamikaye> well it showed me what i wrote up tehre down
[12:56] <luke__> i386 ?
[12:56] <magnetron> luke__: are you using synaptic?
[12:56] <gonzoism> kamikaye  i mean when you were installing the driver
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> what is bluez-gnome
[12:57] <luke__> yeah
[12:57] <lokk> nux_usr: for the past few weeks my connection keeps timing out, etc. and sometimes it'll go from downloading at 115kb/s then just drops to 0 for a minute then goes back up to speed
[12:57] <luke__> magnatron yeah i am
[12:57] <nux_usr> lokk:  Wireless, I suspect?
[12:57] <gonzoism> who is peer and why does he keep resetting peoples connection ?
[12:57] <lokk> nux_usr: nope it's wired to a router
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: what did you search for in synaptic?.. bluez-gnome is there.
[12:58] <magnetron> IndyGunFreak: bluez-gnome is a helper to integrate the Bluetooth support with Gnome
[12:58] <kamikaye> yes
[12:58] <luke__> i searched bluez-gnome
[12:58] <kamikaye> when i was installing i got into the gui
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> magnetron: just found it.
[12:58] <luke__> cant find it
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: do a search just for bluez
[12:58] <kamikaye> i think there was no error
[12:58] <magnetron> luke__: try to do a search for name
[12:58] <gonzoism> kamikaye it should be ok if it is partially installed.
[12:58] <gonzoism> kamikaye you should be able to tell your X to just ignore  it
[12:58] <nux_usr> lokk: Hmm... odd.  Although I've seen switches go haywire and cause those types of problems, it's not too likely.
[12:58] <kamikaye> but i cant run control center
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: its best to be brief, rather than specific in your searches when searching synaptic, just the first basic word will usually find it.
[12:58] <luke__> bluez ok
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye  does X run for you ?
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye  what is control center ?
[12:59] <kamikaye> well for example :  i cant run ati catalyst control center
[12:59] <johan> help
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye yeah.  try installing the ati stuff using apt-get
[12:59] <spike_s> ok later, I'm sure.. y'all enjoy!
[12:59] <luke__> blues utils bluez pin bluez pcmcia support bluez gcidump bluez cups bluez btsco is all i can see
[01:00] <kamikaye> and i tried ati-driver.rn --uninstall and i got : Unrecognized flag : -uninstall
[01:00] <gonzoism> kamikaye check the forums for the instructions
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | johan
[01:00] <ubotu> johan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:00] <gonzoism> kamikaye   try -uninstall instead of --uninstall
[01:00] <kamikaye> so cant i uninstall the driver?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> kamikaye, which card
[01:00] <nux_usr> lokk:  Maybe buggy firmware in your router.  Do you have the latest version from the manufacturer?
[01:00] <wedontneed> hi when i open yahoo games on mozilla mozilla closes why?
[01:00] <kamikaye> x1900xt
[01:00] <kamikaye> w8 i'll try :)
[01:01] <r_a_f> wedontneed:do you have flash installed?
[01:01] <magnetron> wedontneed: do you have flash installed? the nonfree version or gnash?
[01:01] <wedontneed> yes
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye you could if you knew how....  but i wouldn't worry about it.  just install it again and use it, and the bad one will either get replaced, or never be used/touched again.
[01:01] <kamikaye> well same : Unrecognized flag : --uninstall
[01:01] <Kubuntu> How do I install ndiswrapper?
[01:01] <wedontneed> flash installed
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye ah.
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye ^see up there
[01:01] <luke__> i cant find bluez-gnome
[01:01] <lokk> nux_usr: yes everything is up to date, and it seems to work fine when loading web pages just when you download pages, etc. that you notice it so i was thinking it might be the wire
[01:01] <kamikaye> k
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye hey
[01:02] <lokk> download packages* not pages
[01:02] <magnetron> luke__: are you using the "search" button?
[01:02] <kamikaye> maybe i should reinstall ubuntu ?
[01:02] <wedontneed> r_a_f: flash installed
[01:02] <nux_usr> lokk:  Have you tried different ethernet cable(s)?
[01:02] <luke__> yeah and even if i update or"reload" the resportaries it still cant find
[01:03] <Kubuntu> How do I install ndis wrapper? Or the driver for dwl-g122
[01:03] <gonzoism> kamikaye go ahead and back up your xorg.conf if it is working for you right now.  sudo cp /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf.backup.working  so in case you really screw things up all you have to do is copy it back, restart X and you are back up to how it is now.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Kubuntu
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:03] <lokk> nux_usr: no not yet, i just wanted to make sure there wasn't any network problems before i go and buy a new one
[01:04] <kamikaye> no thanks for you rhelp i'll install it again and see what'll happen
[01:04] <nux_usr> lokk:  Also, maybe it's just your Internet connection.  Rarely do providers give you a constant speed, especially for sustaind data transfers.
[01:04] <kamikaye> now*
[01:04] <luke__> magnatron yeah i am
[01:04] <gonzoism> kamikaye i wouldn't reinstall ubuntu.  at least not until you figure out how to get the video how you want it, figure it out, send yourself an email on how to do it, and then reinstall.  that way you don't do the same thing.  but really, a reinstall isn't neccessary
[01:04] <kamikaye> not now
[01:04] <Kubuntu> but they doesn't work
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> wedontneed: i don't think its flash, as it seems the games use java, do you have java installed/
[01:04] <gonzoism> kamikaye  really, that driver being messed up or whatever, it won't hurt anything.
[01:04] <johan__> can anybody help me ?
[01:05] <kamikaye> yes okay
[01:05] <johan__> johan@johan-desktop:~/music$ ifconfig
[01:05] <lokk> nux_usr: alright thanks i'll probably go out and get a new cable and see how that works out
[01:05] <johan__> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:85:0B:0D:F6
[01:05] <johan__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           RX packets:17902 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:05] <johan__>           TX packets:18693 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:05] <johan__>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:05] <kamikaye> now thanks a lot for ur help :)
[01:05] <johan__>           RX bytes:13288078 (12.6 MiB)  TX bytes:2509555 (2.3 MiB)
[01:05] <johan__>           Interrupt:20 Base address:0x6000
[01:05] <johan__> eth0:avah Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:85:0B:0D:F6
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:05] <johan__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           Interrupt:20 Base address:0x6000
[01:05] <johan__> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:05] <gonzoism> johan__ don't past that crap in here
[01:05] <johan__>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[01:05] <johan__>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           RX packets:570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:05] <johan__>           TX packets:570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:05] <Enverex> !ops
[01:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:05] <johan__>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[01:05] <johan__>           RX bytes:63805 (62.3 KiB)  TX bytes:63805 (62.3 KiB)
[01:05] <johan__> ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
[01:05] <nux_usr> johan:  Please don't paste in the channel.
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  P-t-P:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:05] <Frogzoo> johan__: grrr..
[01:05] <kamikaye> cu^
[01:06] <gonzoism> johan__ don't past that crap in here, it will get you banned
[01:06] <kamikaye> i'll come back later if it doesnt work xD
[01:06] <luke__> how do i get bluez-gnome?!?!?!
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> nothing like somebody pasting in the channel.
[01:06] <wedontneed> IndyGunFreak: yeah but before i enter game it is closed (when i open room select page)
[01:06] <nux_usr> johan:  This is a busy channel.  Please use pastebin.
[01:06] <gonzoism> i'm gonna go to dallas.
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> wedontneed: i don't know, its working fine for me.
[01:06] <wedontneed> IndyGunFreak: ty
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: did you search synaptic?
[01:07] <luke__> yeah i did nothing with gnome came up i can send u a screen shot
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: that doesn't make any sense, did you search for it in synaptic?
[01:08] <luke__> i searched it thats a screenshot of the search
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | johan__