[00:02] <mhall119> hey SergioMeneses
[00:03] <SergioMeneses> Mr mhall119 ! how's everything? :)
[00:05] <jcastro> SergioMeneses: looks like my mike conked out
[00:05] <jcastro> I'll re-record it first thing tomorrow
[00:08] <mhall119> SergioMeneses: doing alright
[00:08] <mhall119> taking on the world, one day at a atime
[00:08] <SergioMeneses> jcastro, ok perfect! :)
[00:09] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, jajaja like all us
[00:19] <SergioMeneses> ok guys! it's all see you later
[05:51] <dpm> good morning all
[07:05] <dholbach> good morning
[14:58] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:01] <jono> dholbach, hey
[15:01] <jono> on my way
[15:13] <jcastro> hey mhall119 or jono
[15:13] <jcastro> any idea when design is going to land the desktopy SDK stuff?
[15:13] <jcastro> I really want some of these mobile apps in desktop mode
[15:13] <jcastro> that new browser looks sweet
[15:14] <mhall119> jcastro: I wouldn't expect anything substantial until after 13.10
[15:14]  * jcastro nods
[15:15] <mhall119> jcastro: though the SDK itself will be getting dynamic layout support in a the next couple of months, and I'll be kicking off an effort to get common phone->tablet->desktop layouts defined for reuse
[15:15] <balloons> dholbach, btw I didn't see how to update the community website.. the code doesn't seem to have any content
[15:15] <balloons> is there an admin page?
[15:15] <jcastro> mhall119: oh ok, so the functionality will be there, it'll just be ugly?
[15:15] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, I like the tab support, I suggested he work with the webbrowser-app guys too
[15:15] <jcastro> that's fine
[15:15] <balloons> just thought I'd leave this note so I don't forget
[15:16] <balloons> ty for fixing things :-)
[15:16] <mhall119> jcastro: not so much ugly, but we won't have anything telling us the "proper" way to convert an app, from a UX perspective
[15:16] <jcastro> oh ok, so there won't be a way to say "I am currently on a desktop, show this UI"?
[15:16] <mhall119> so, for example, we can expand a Pagestack to put pages side-by-side, but we don't know what to do with the toolbars that swipe up from the bottom
[15:17] <mhall119> jcastro: that's all we'll have, is "swho this UI", what we won't have is "this is how your desktop UI should look and behave"
[15:17] <dholbach> balloons, community.ubuntu.com/wp-admin
[15:18] <jcastro> mhall119: got it!
[15:19] <balloons> dholbach, I figured as much, ty
[15:19] <balloons> dholbach, indeed verified I can get in
[15:20] <dholbach> balloons, made you an admin
[15:27] <jono> dholbach, sorry, line got laggy at the end
[15:27] <dholbach> no worries
[15:27] <jono> jcastro, we are going to have a campaign to fix bugs in the SDK to ensure that apps run better on the desktop
[15:28] <jcastro> I admit I didn't care much at first
[15:28] <jcastro> but now I am seeing all these new apps
[15:28] <jcastro> And now I WANT.
[15:31] <jono> dpm, on my way
[15:32] <dpm> jono, np, I'm there alreay
[15:32] <dpm> *dy
[15:44] <jono> balloons, dpm just showed me the planning doc for the autopilot campaign - really nice work planning that out :-)
[15:44] <jono> looks perfect!
[15:44] <balloons> jono, :-) thanks.. notice how dpm has but one task :-)
[15:45] <jono> balloons, wise :-)
[15:45] <balloons> he's the expert
[15:45] <balloons> <3 dpm
[15:45]  * dpm hugs balloons
[15:56] <dholbach> all rightie - I call it a day - see you tomorrow!
[16:33] <jono> mhall119, hey
[16:33] <jono> see my email about app dev recipes
[16:34] <jono> I want to action this fairly soon
[16:34] <jono> but it needs some knowledge of the StackExchange API
[16:44] <jono> mhall119, https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuappdevelopers/
[16:44] <jono> mhall119, can you keep an eye on that on a daily basis as with the G+ group
[16:46] <mhall119> jono: ok
[16:46] <jono> mhall119, damn, it seems groups changed
[16:46] <jono> you have to approve everyone who joins :/
[16:50] <mhall119> I thought it was always that way
[16:50] <mhall119> pages are the open-to-anybody way on Facebook
[16:51] <mhall119> https://www.facebook.com/ubuntuappdev
[17:26] <mhall119> jono: is there a "Manage group" option somewhere?
[17:26] <mhall119> I'd like to give it custom icon if possible
[17:27] <jono> mhall119, there is a little cog on there
[17:29] <jono> mhall119, all set for the call?
[17:31] <mhall119> yeah
[17:58] <mhall119> jono: I'm lost you
[18:01] <jcastro> jono: I'm in the hangout
[18:01] <jono> jcastro, call running over
[18:01] <jono> wont be long
[18:01] <jcastro> no worries
[18:01]  * jcastro stares out the window instead
[18:04] <mhall119> jcastro: sorry, I was hogging him to myself
[18:04] <mhall119> :)
[18:13] <mhall119> jono: would you mind reddit'ing http://mhall119.com/2013/06/core-apps-update-clock/
[18:13] <jono> mhall119, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1fnzgq/core_apps_update_clock/
[18:15] <mhall119> thanks
[22:37] <jono> mhall119, you are a smart cookie
[22:37] <jono> I like the fact we don't need to use the recipe tag approach
[22:40] <mhall119> jono: as long as we can manage the list by hand
[22:40] <mhall119> I may look at making that easier with extra tooling
[22:40] <jono> mhall119, manage it by hand?
[22:40] <mhall119> marcoceppi_ got me started with a simple script that we can build from: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntudeveloperportal/askubuntu-scripts
[22:41] <mhall119> jono: for now just comparing the output list to what's already on the site
[22:41] <jono> mhall119, ahhh I see, maintaining the list of questions
[22:41] <jono> right
[22:41] <jono> mhall119, awesome


[00:00] <zequence> If we could support many DEs, perhaps some of those are better for more universal language support, and in that way we wouldn't need to worry about that as much
[00:01] <flocculant> I'd guess buntumain does that better
[00:01] <sakrecoer> i guess too, yes..
[00:04] <sakrecoer> well, afaicr, we agreed to follow the direction of xubuntu on the font things..
[00:06] <flocculant> so did I
[00:06] <sakrecoer> you did.... agree to follow the xubuntu direction?
[00:06] <flocculant> yup
[00:06] <sakrecoer> man my main wetware frame is xrun:ing me...
[00:07] <sakrecoer> i'll leave it here for today...
[00:07] <sakrecoer> :)
[00:07] <sakrecoer> anwyas good catch krytarik and nice to read you guys! bye for now!
[00:07] <zequence> I'm logging off too. later all
[00:08] <flocculant> night
[19:46] <krytarik> sakrecoer: Reg.  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/trunk/revision/282 , this is Xubuntu's take on that - because we figured that Noto Sans is a bit larger than the old Droid Sans: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/revision/600