[02:02] <lfaraone_> kiko: deryck said about a week ago that he'd email me, but I haven't heard anything from him and he's been off IRC.
[02:03] <lfaraone_> kiko: he's not blocked by something I need to do, right?
[02:08] <sproaty> Can I set Translations' daily branch export to export .mo files rather than .po?
[02:09] <sproaty> I find myself requesting to be emailed the .mo over and over
[02:28] <AskHL_> I have uploaded packages to PPAs in two places: the user PPA and a team PPA.  The former doesn't get my signing key listed in the 'technical details', although the other one does.  I must have forgotten something when creating the package, but can't find out what.  What might be the problem?
[02:30] <AskHL_> (People importing my personal key will still see warnings for the offending package, but not the other.  I.e. it hasn't been signed properly, in spite of the fact that I have a .dput.cf which says allow_unsigned_uploads = 0)
[02:32] <wgrant> AskHL_: The signing of the repository and the signing of uploads are unrelated.
[02:33] <wgrant> If you've recently created your team PPA (in the past hour, perhaps), it might just not have had its key generated yet.
[02:33] <AskHL_> It is the user PPA which is the problem
[02:33] <AskHL_> And it was created more than a day ago
[02:34] <wgrant> Can you link me to both?
[02:34] <AskHL_> https://launchpad.net/~askhl/+archive/ppa
[02:34] <AskHL_> This is my personal one
[02:34] <AskHL_> https://launchpad.net/~pyg3t-dev-team/+archive/ppa/ this is a team PPA
[02:36] <wgrant> You created your personal PPA on launchpad.net and not edge.launchpad.net?
[02:37] <AskHL_> Launchpad.net to the best of my knowledge.  I used the 'create PPA' on my user page - the button links URL is https://launchpad.net/~askhl/+activate-ppa
[02:40] <mzz> I didn't even know it was possible to end up with unsigned packages in a ppa?
[02:40] <wgrant> mzz: You cannot upload unsigned packages, but that is not relevant to the problem here.
[02:41] <wgrant> spm: Is ppa-generate-keys running OK>?
[02:41] <mzz> I know, I meant the generated binaries would normally end up signed by a ppa-specific key
[02:41] <wgrant> Right.
[02:41] <wgrant> But the key is generated by a cron job.
[02:41] <wgrant> And PPAs can be published before the key is created.
[02:44] <AskHL_> But that should be completely automatic then?  I've checked again, and cannot find a button to request this.
[02:46] <wgrant> It is fully automatic.
[02:46] <wgrant> Unless it is broken.
[02:46] <wgrant> Which it probably is.
[02:48] <wgrant> So, you don't need to do anything.
[02:48] <AskHL_> wgrant, thanks again for fixing everything then!
[02:49] <wgrant> AskHL_: I can't fix anything; the best I can do is poke (presumably lunching) sysadmins to see if anything is wrong.
[02:50] <AskHL_> wgrant, in that case, thank you for repeatedly making it so that everything is eventually fixed
[03:11] <spm> wgrant: AskHL_: nope. not working. blowing up quite spectacularly actually.
[03:11] <wgrant> spm: Great.
[03:11] <wgrant> (how's it exploding?)
[03:11] <spm> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'signing_key'
[03:11] <spm> lib/lp/archivepublisher/archivesigningkey.py", line 69, in generateSigningKey
[03:12] <spm> if default_ppa.signing_key is None:
[03:12] <wgrant> default_ppa is None?
[03:12] <wgrant> Yep.
[03:12] <spm> I'd assume that's line 69 in that file.
[03:12] <wgrant> That's why I asked about the edge thing.
[03:12] <spm> edge thing? I may have missed that.
[03:13] <spm> oh I see.
[03:13] <wgrant> On edge, the first PPA no longer has to be named 'ppa'.
[03:13] <wgrant> But 3.0 assumes that if a person has any PPAs, there is one named 'ppa'
[03:14] <wgrant> It will break a few backwards-compatibility things in the webapp too, but nothing quite as important.
[03:14] <wgrant> I guess somebody will need to organise a CP, since the data is already broken :(
[03:16] <mzz> but his personal ppa *is* actually called "ppa", right?
[03:16] <wgrant> His is.
[03:16] <wgrant> But there is an earlier one that is not.
[03:17] <mzz> ahh
[03:17] <wgrant> Which is breaking key generation for anything created afterwards.
[03:17] <mzz> oh, wait, that breaks the entire cron job? bah.
[03:17] <wgrant> Well, I guess there was no reason to think it would fail.
[03:17] <mzz> yes, I can see how that would happen. I just wasn't thinking.
[03:18] <wgrant> I suppose nothing can be done until London awakes.
[03:19] <wgrant> (devel r9687 is to blame)
[03:20] <spm> wgrant: it's been broken a couple of days now. so ... yeah seriously ungood. but a few more hours aint gunna hurt more.
[03:21] <wgrant> Indeed, it landed longer ago than I thought.
[03:37] <bcurtiswx> hey all,  bug #78596 any chance thats getting fixed??  I need to dup bug Bug #408530 and Bug #443340 and i don't really want to move dupes over
[03:38] <bcurtiswx>  Bug 443340
[03:38] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: There's a launchpadlib script around to do that for you.
[03:38] <wgrant> Although it's a bit noisy.
[03:38] <bcurtiswx> wgrant, cool.. how would I use this?
[03:39] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: I don't know, sorry. I know it exists, but I have no idea where.
[03:39] <wgrant> It would be very easy to rewrite it yourself, though.
[03:41] <bcurtiswx> wgrant, also cool.. and where would I do this at...
[03:41] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: Have you ever written anything using launchpadlib beforE?
[03:42] <bcurtiswx> wgrant, negative
[03:42] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: Do you know Python?
[03:42] <bcurtiswx> wgrant, C, FORTRAN, IDL, MATLAB, CSS, HTML.. no python tho... yet maybe :P
[03:43] <spm> bcurtiswx: no cobol? for shame. :-)
[03:43] <bcurtiswx> lol
[03:44] <bcurtiswx> oh yeah MYSQL too
[03:44] <bcurtiswx> PHP
[03:44] <spm> those two aren't languages. the latter being line noise masquerading as a language (ignoring that I know php far better than python...)
[03:45] <bcurtiswx> haha, i have a sql/php/html/css site going... im proud of it..
[03:46] <bcurtiswx> im into new languages tho
[03:47] <bcurtiswx> if that only worked on women :D
[03:48] <bcurtiswx> wgrant: any good beginner examples of python (that may help me write a python code) ?
[03:48] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: I'm just testing the script now.
[03:48] <bcurtiswx> it was that easy?
[03:48] <wgrant> It contains 7 lines of code.
[03:49] <mzz> (and python is not a good language for writing really long lines of code in)
[03:51] <wgrant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/294343/
[03:51] <wgrant> Replace the source and destination numbers, and run it to test on staging.
[03:52] <wgrant> If it's doing what you want, then use EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT instead of STAGING_SERVICE_ROOT on line 5, and it will do it in the real DB.
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> testing use the same reports as regular?
[03:56] <mzz> edge uses the same db, staging uses a copy of that db (I don't know the update frequency)
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> mzz, k thx
[03:56] <mzz> afaik, etc
[03:57] <bcurtiswx> wgrant, run this on my comp?.. is there a specific package i'll need?
[03:57] <wgrant> bcurtiswx: python-launchpadlib
[05:57] <mbt> Hello.  The reactos-core project's trunk branch mirror is failing to import on LP; using bzr and bzr-svn directly on my local system, it works just fine.  Do I need to file a bug in Launchpad, and if so, which of the components would I file it against?
[05:58] <spiv> mwhudson: ^
[05:58] <mwhudson> mbt: not that launchpad does not (yet) use bzr-svn
[05:58] <mwhudson> mbt: can you give me a link to your branch?
[05:59] <mbt> To the one I just pulled?
[05:59] <mbt> Or to the one in LP/
[05:59] <mwhudson> mbt: the vcs-imports branch in launchoad
[05:59] <mbt> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/reactos-core/trunk
[05:59] <mbt> I just tried it again and it failed again almost instantly
[06:00] <mwhudson> i will look at that as soon as dns works for me again :(
[06:00] <mbt> mwhudson, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <mwhudson> mbt: oh that one
[06:01] <mwhudson> mbt: it means you have files with mixed line endings in your history somewhere
[06:01] <mbt> Is there already a bug report against LP for that?
[06:01] <mwhudson> yeah, looking for it now
[06:02] <mwhudson> the fix though is "use bzr-svn for imports"
[06:02] <mbt> lol
[06:02] <mwhudson> which hopefully will be done really really soon now
[06:02] <mbt> Any idea when that might be?
[06:02] <mbt> Ahh, alright.
[06:02] <mbt> Is there a place to gather a list of branches that an admin will automatically purge and queue for import when that happens?
[06:03] <mbt> I don't know about other branches, but this one has a lot of history and took me 4 hours or so for the initial import here.
[06:03] <mwhudson> mbt: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs/+bug/256050
[06:04] <mbt> (I actually am planning on mirroring it in bzr here since I kinda want to follow that project, though I can't do it as well as if LP is mirroring it for me, since I don't know how to set up bzr to send me pretty emails like LP does for updates :))
[06:04] <mwhudson> mbt: no, i guess we'll retry all imports that have never succeeded with bzr-svn
[06:04] <mwhudson> mbt: in the context of the import system "four hours" is fairly moderate btw
[06:04] <mbt> Oh?
[06:05] <mwhudson> i think the record is three weeks
[06:05] <mbt> For an import‽ Of what?
[06:05] <mwhudson> the linux kernel
[06:05] <mbt> Oh, wow.
[06:05] <mwhudson> (it failed, too!)
[06:06] <mwhudson> but several days is not unusual, esp with slow svn servers
[06:06] <mbt> Odd, I remember requesting a glibc mirror and that was refused on the basis of being too resource intensive
[06:06] <mwhudson> mbt: that was ram consumption, not cpu
[06:07] <mbt> Are there dedicated first-time-import machines, or is the job of first-import and mirroring shared by the same group of machines?
[06:07] <wgrant> If you want /really/ slow, have a look at ohloh's Launchpad import...
[06:07] <mbt> Though, another question: is there a way to bootstrap a vcs-import branch from a bzr mirror but then point it to the original mirror (say svn or git)?
[06:11] <mwhudson> mbt: no, there aren't first time import machines
[06:12] <mwhudson> mbt: we can bootstrap yeah, but only from the "right sort" of mirror
[06:12] <mwhudson> and no sane person wants to run cscvs for themselves
[06:12] <mbt> No, I looked at that
[06:12] <mwhudson> (see previous comments about bzr-svn)
[06:12] <mbt> I believe that was when I said "Any project using CVS isn't work my time, period."
[06:12] <mbt> (Unless it's mirrored somewhere useful like LP ;-))
[06:29] <zooko> Folks, how do I change the title of a bug?
[06:29] <wgrant> zooko: Click the yellow pencil icon next to the title.
[06:32] <zooko> Thanks.
[06:32] <zooko> Hrm, such an icon doesn't appear there.
[06:33] <zooko> wgrant: does this mean that I'm not authorized to change the title of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/452774 ?
[06:34] <wgrant> zooko: As long as you're logged in and can see the bug, you can change its title.
[06:35] <zooko> Hm, but there is no pencil icon to the right of the title, although there are pencil icons to the rights of other items on this page.
[06:36] <wgrant> At my resolution, it wraps to just under the title on the bug you provided.
[06:36] <wgrant> What about bug #1, which has a short summary?
[06:37] <wgrant> http://williamgrant.id.au/f/1/2009/there-it-is.png
[06:37] <zooko> Taking a while to load #1 there...
[06:38] <zooko> No I see no pencil there.
[06:38] <zooko> Your screenshot is helpful!  Here's mine:
[06:38] <wgrant> Which browser?
[06:39] <zooko> http://williamgrant.id.au/f/1/2009/there-it-is.png
[06:39] <zooko> oops
[06:39] <zooko> http://zooko.com/nopencil.png
[06:40] <zooko> konqueror 4.3.21
[06:40] <wgrant> Ah. Konqueror.
[06:40] <zooko> 4.3.2 i mean
[06:40] <wgrant> There are a few other related bugs in Konqueror, but I didn't think that was one of them...
[06:41] <wgrant> For now, use another browser or add /+edit to the URL.
[06:41] <wgrant> And file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+filebug
[06:41] <zooko> Thanks.
[06:42] <zooko> Oh this bug that I filed against python in Karmic is totally bogus and is my mistake.
[06:42] <zooko> How do I close it quickly before it wastes people's time?
[06:42] <wgrant> Hit the edit icon next to the status, and select Invalid.
[06:42] <zooko> And as for filing a bug on launchpad itself, shall I attach my screenshot?
[06:43] <wgrant> Please do.
[06:43] <wgrant> And browser version.
[06:51] <zooko> Also opened another one saying that I can see any characters in my comments.
[08:07] <mdke> danilos: re bug 425578 - are you sure all ubuntu packagers have access to download all templates? I don't, even though I'm in ~ubuntu-dev. It would be very useful to be able to download these templates rather than request it from ~ubuntu-translations-coordinators members all the time
[08:12] <wgrant> mdke: ~ubuntu-dev doesn't confer any privileges at this point.
[08:13] <wgrant> mdke: And it looks like the export operation is restricted to those with component upload rights, which I don't believe you have.
[08:13] <wgrant> This is perhaps not a sane restriction now that package- and packageset-specific permissions exist.
[08:14] <mdke> wgrant: right - I can upload ubuntu-docs and gnome-user-docs (main) but am only a member of ~ubuntu-dev in Launchpad. but I need those translations!
[08:18] <dpm> mdke, for the time being, I've requested an export of the ubuntu-docs and kubuntu-docs translations. This won't solve the problem, but at least you'll get the translations. I'll send you the link once the export has finished
[08:18] <dpm> and good morning, btw :)
[08:19] <wgrant> mdke: You want to file a bug asking for that restriction to take into more specific permissions.
[08:19] <wgrant> s/into/into account/
[08:20] <mdke> dpm: thanks and good morning - it's ubuntu-docs and gnome-user-docs I need if you wouldn't mind :)
[08:20] <mdke> wgrant: I've posted to the same bug, although possibly a separate bug is warranted, I don't know
[08:21] <dpm> mdke, sure, let me request the gnome-user-docs export
[08:22] <mdke> dpm: thanks a lot
[08:22] <dpm> no worries
[10:08] <ronny> sup
[10:25] <maxb> Hi, how do I apply to become owner of a Launchpad project record for a project that I am upstream for?
[10:25] <maxb> Also, can vcs-imports import from a svn repository that requires a username/password of "guest"/"guest" ?
[10:32] <geser> kfogel: how to proceed with the apidoc toc to get it moving (https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-dev/msg01304.html)? wait on a reply from Leonard or file a bug as Gary proposed?
[11:22] <maxb> Hi, how do I apply to become owner of a Launchpad project record for a project that I am upstream for?
[11:22] <maxb> Also, can vcs-imports import from a svn repository that requires a username/password of "guest"/"guest" ?
[11:22] <jml> maxb, the answer to the latter is "No", I think.
[11:22] <maxb> :-/
[11:22] <jml> maybe
[11:22] <jml> maxb, have you tried putting the user/pass in the URL?
[11:22] <maxb> How would I try it?
[11:23] <jml> maxb<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:23] <maxb> Sorry, I mean, I thought vcs-import config changes required LOSAs
[11:23] <jml> maxb, register a new one.
[11:23] <jml> maxb, or give me the URL & I can try :)
[11:24] <jml> maxb, the URL of the code import that is.
[11:24] <maxb> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/cvs2svn/trunk
[11:24] <jml> as for changing project owner, I'm fairly sure, although not certain, that that requires a LOSA
[11:24] <jml> ok. we forbid user names.
[11:24] <maxb> thumper is the current owner of the project
[11:24] <jml> maxb, so the answer to the latter is definitely "no"
[11:25] <jml> maxb, but that's probably a bug, and maybe one that's easily fixed after we move to using bzr-svn
[11:25] <wgrant> Usernames are forbidden because Subversion is braindead.
[11:25] <maxb> a.k.a. "Get your project off that hideous hosting infrastructure" :-)
[11:25] <wgrant> Subversion doesn't accept them in the URL; only as commandline options.
[11:25] <jml> wgrant, oh right.
[11:25] <maxb> uh
[11:25] <maxb> no
[11:25] <jml> wgrant, but, we don't use svn.
[11:25] <jml> maybe cscvs does
[11:25] <maxb> svn will happily take usernames in the url
[11:25] <jml> but in that case, cscvs is brain dead
[11:26] <wgrant> maxb: Passwords?
[11:26] <maxb> iffier. I'd have to check :-)
[11:26] <jml> anyway.
[11:26] <jml> Python 2.5
[11:26] <jml> bzr-svn
[11:26] <jml> happiness.
[11:26] <wgrant> bzr-svn works with 2.4, doesn't it?
[11:26] <jml> nope.
[11:27] <maxb> Well, no problem, we think we might have the testsuite running clean on 2.5 by EOD
[11:27] <wgrant> I see an email from jelmer suggesting that at one point it was broken, but that was a bug.
[11:27] <jml> wuuu
[11:28] <wgrant> I see other reasonable references that it supports 2.4.
[11:30] <jml> wgrant, hmm. I'm simply going on what I've been repeatedly told.
[11:30] <jml> maxb, in answer to your first question
[11:30] <jml> maxb, ask a question on the launchpad project & give me the URL. I'll ask a LOSA to get it sorted.
[11:32] <jml> maxb, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/452962
[11:33] <maxb> I assume I'm fairly safe assuming that thumper is the current registrant in the role of a placeholder, rather than because he particularly wants the project record
[11:33] <jml> maxb, I believe so.
[11:34] <jml> maxb, usual practice is for projects like that to be owned by "registry"
[11:38] <maxb> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85998
[11:39] <jml> maxb, ta
[11:39] <jml> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85987 <-- I really need to start using PPAs.
[11:42] <jml> wgrant, can I tempt you to answer https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85987 ?
[11:42] <wgrant> jml: Was just looking.
[11:42] <jml> wgrant, thanks.
[11:44] <jml> danilos, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/85512
[11:44] <jml> oh, you answered that yesterday
[11:45] <jml> but it's open again.
[11:47] <_Andrew> I'm having problems with the amd64 build server connecting to my ppa.. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33780328/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-amd64.ogre_1.6.4~ogredev6_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[11:48] <_Andrew> I tried rebuilding but same problem
[11:49] <_Andrew> https://launchpad.net/~andrewfenn/+archive/ogredev/+build/1294350
[11:49] <wgrant> Uhoh.
[11:49] <noodles775> hrm... ppa.launchpad.net seems to be timing out... no, just very slow in responding.
[11:49] <wgrant> Yeah, it's pretty dead.
[11:49] <_Andrew> :S
[11:50] <wgrant> jml: I think 85987 is probably a launchpad-buildd bug, but it seems odd that it wouldn't be hit more often.
[11:51] <wgrant> Easy enough to work around, but you might want to get a real person to have a look.
[11:51] <noodles775> wgrant: I thought you were *more* than real :)
[11:52] <wgrant> noodles775: Lies.
[11:52] <jml> wgrant, if only someone from soyuz were hanging around on this channel...
[11:52] <wgrant> More like infinity.
[11:52] <wgrant> But he is no longer.
[11:53] <danilos> jml: done
[11:54] <jml> danilos, thank you.
[11:54] <bigjools> lamont would be the buildd man now
[11:56] <bigjools> jml: I'll ping him about that question
[11:57] <jml> bigjools, thanks.
[11:57] <_Andrew> Should I try building again?
[11:57] <noodles775> _Andrew: not yet, the sys admins are on it right now...
[11:57] <_Andrew> ok
[12:01] <noodles775> _Andrew: ok, thanks to the admins, it should be better now :)
[12:01] <_Andrew> awesome, I'll try rebuilding
[12:03] <dpm> mdke, ubuntu-docs export -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33774796/launchpad-export.tar.gz
[12:03] <_Andrew> um
[12:03] <_Andrew> Build can not be retried
[12:03] <_Andrew> https://launchpad.net/~andrewfenn/+archive/ogredev/+build/1294350
[12:04] <dpm> mdke, and gnome-user-docs export -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33774991/launchpad-export.tar.gz
[12:04] <_Andrew> oh wait nevermind.. "Start in 19 minutes (2505)"
[12:04] <noodles775> _Andrew: it's goin...
[12:04] <noodles775> exactly :)
[12:10] <jml> so I guess I should answer that question with "try again now"?
[12:11] <tim_blechmann> hi, i'd like to rename my launchpad user, although, i already created some ppas. therefore, i'd like to remove the ppas, change the name and recreate the ppas ... is it possible to do this? i didn't find a way to remove ppas in the web interface ...
[12:11] <jml> tim_blechmann, you can have the PPAs disabled. Currently that requires administrator intervention, so the whole process takes a few days.
[12:12] <tim_blechmann> jml, thanks, is it possible to rename a user, with disabled ppas?
[12:12] <jml> tim_blechmann, yes, I think so.
[12:13] <jml> tim_blechmann, although I haven't actually done it myself.
[12:15] <tim_blechmann> great ... how can i contact an administrator? like, is there a support request form?
[12:16] <jml> tim_blechmann, file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpa
[12:16] <jml> d
[12:16] <jml> tim_blechmann, I'll make sure it gets to the admins.
[12:20] <tim_blechmann> jml, i've posted the question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/86001 ... thanks in advance
[12:21] <jml> tim_blechmann, np.
[13:36] <tim> building a package for i386, is there a way to specify a minimum architecture, like i586 or i686? my application uses the cmpxchg8b opcode, which is not available on i386 and i486
[13:38] <geser> i386 describes the ia32 family (i386, i486, i586, i686, and so on), I don't know what's the current supported cpu minimum for ubuntu
[13:41] <tsimpson> I think it's 586 (could be 486 though)
[13:41] <mzz> same here
[13:42] <mzz> that is: pretty sure it won't actually install on 386 (iirc glibc doesn't work on that, among other things). I'm not sure about 486.
[13:42] <tsimpson> I think you can assume at least 586 generally, but there's no real way to encode that in the .deb
[13:43] <tsimpson> so if Ubuntu runs on 486, your app will install but fail horribly ;)
[13:43] <tsimpson> unless you do runtime CPU detection
[13:46] <mzz> where "fail horribly" probably means "crash with SIGILL", iirc
[13:47] <mzz> I have no idea if you should even try to handle that at the packaging level, given that people might move the installed system to a different cpu
[13:47] <tim> i doubt anyone will run it on an 486 machine ... i'll try to specify -march=i586 ...
[13:47] <mzz> runtime detection might make more sense.
[13:48] <tim> i could possibly add some runtime detection, refusing to start on 486, though
[13:50] <tim> too bad, gcc doesn't provide a -mcx8 for 32-bit targets :/
[13:50] <mzz> what'd that buy you?
[13:50] <mzz> the generated code would just crash just like your manual opcode (inline asm?) code would
[13:51] <mzz> -mwhatever doesn't cause gcc to automagically generate a runtime cpu check that runs before main or the like
[13:52] <tim> well, i don't care about 486 compatibility ... not with an application, that makes heavy use of sse/sse2 instructions and lock-free data structures ;)
[13:52] <tim> still, it would simplify my build process
[14:19] <maxb> Does launchpad require gpg signatures on merge-proposal creation emails?
[14:46] <theLawless1> just curious, any Canadians having PAINFULLY slow download times from Launchpad today?
[14:48] <abentley> theLawless1: No, I'm getting ~80 KBs.
[14:50] <theLawless1_> hmmm, I'm trying to download bzr via two different ISPs, but only getting ~1k
[14:51] <theLawless1_> I'm trying to find out if there are mirrors of the downloads anywhere?
[14:59] <jml> maxb, don't know, sorry.
[14:59] <jml> maxb, probably.
[15:49] <cl_2> hi guys! i didn't contribute to my myproject for the last 2 month. now my projects contribution points are down to 30. i've been commiting new code since a few days now, but my points are still dropping. is this expected behavior?
[15:53] <cl_2> sorry, i was disconnected. anybody replied yet? :-D
[15:54] <AskHL_> cl_2, I think the points accumulated in the past are running out.  You still gain new points by contributing, it's just that the old ones are running out faster
[15:55] <cl_2> AskHL_: ah i see, thanks
[15:55] <AskHL_> cl_2, https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/Karma
[15:56] <cl_2> thats exactly the page i was looking for, thanks again :-)
[15:56] <ikanobori> Dear lads, when you try to register an PGP key which has not yet been added to the Ubuntu keyservers you get a message to send your key to the keyservers with gpg --send-keys --keyserver xyz
[15:56] <AskHL_> No problem!
[15:56] <ikanobori> However, this message should read, gpg --send-keys --keyserver xyz KEYID
[15:56] <ikanobori> Like explained in the larger page about PGP.
[16:06] <cl_2> AskHL_: i just had a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+me/+karma. shouldnt my commits be listed there?
[16:16] <AskHL_> cl_2, I believe so - at least for me they are.
[16:18] <cl_2> AskHL_: for me they aren't. theres just a "bug comment added" entry i did for another project
[16:20] <cl_2> there are only translation, bug and branch register actions listed, but no commits
[16:23] <AskHL_> cl_2, strange.  Presumably you are not committing to a /+junk/ destination?
[16:24] <cl_2> AskHL_: no, they're all development branches
[16:25] <AskHL_> Anyway, I'm not exactly a Launchpad expert, so maybe someone else can figure this out.
[16:25] <cl_2> AskHL_: anybody else here i can talk to?
[16:28] <AskHL_> cl_2, not in particular, but someone might answer later
[16:29] <cl_2> AskHL_: ok, thanks again
[16:33] <fale> hi
[16:34] <fale> I'm having the error 'hangs at 1kb to go' uploading packages
[16:34] <fale> could I use a normal ftp program instead of dput?
[19:32] <Wild_Cat> That's possibly an FAQ, but is it worth registering a project on LP if it's for a very small program (as in ~50 lines of Python)?
[19:33] <beuno> Wild_Cat, it is
[19:33] <beuno> it's a nice way for people to find the code and interact with it
[19:33] <beuno> submit patches, bugs, etc
[19:33] <beuno> you never know what will happen in open source  ;)
[19:34] <Wild_Cat> yeah, figures. At the very least people will find it in Google.
[19:34] <Wild_Cat> (seeing that I wrote it when Google only returned stuff that didn't work)
[19:35] <beuno> exactly
[19:40] <mathepic> Everything is worth registering on LP.
[19:41] <beuno> that's my motto as well
[19:41] <beuno> "the open source supermarket"
[19:43] <mathepic> Why, when you create a project, does it show this? "Requesting Ubuntu CDs is done at shipit.ubuntu.com"
[19:43] <beuno> mathepic, because of the large amount of people who register a project in Launchpad because they want Ubuntu CDs
[19:43] <beuno> sinzui, ping
[19:43] <beuno> that said
[19:43] <beuno> now that we have open id split out
[19:43] <beuno> does that still apply?
[19:44] <mathepic> What does a launchpad project have to do with a Ubuntu CD?
[19:44] <sinzui> Nothing now
[19:44] <beuno> mathepic, you used to have to create a Launchpad account to request CDs
[19:44] <beuno> so, I suspect we can drop that
[19:44] <sinzui> Launchpad developers wrote the site a few years ago
[19:44] <sinzui> hi beuno
[19:44]  * beuno suspects that's sinzui's way of saying +1
[19:45] <beuno> hi sinzui!
[19:48] <beuno> sinzui, so, want a bug for that?  or even better, a branch for review?  :)
[19:49]  * beuno hasn't worked on LP code in a while and is getting nervous
[19:49] <sinzui> I think we can remove that. message now.
[19:49] <beuno> super
[19:49] <sinzui> We still need links next to the matching projects that invite users to translate the existing project
[19:50] <beuno> absolutely
[19:50] <sinzui> That and test project are the only cruft we get  now
[19:52] <beuno> I like problems getting smaller
[19:52] <beuno> it means we have a chance at fixing them!
[19:57] <BlouBlou> I have a problem wich my launchpad, I changed my image, and it doesn't change, I remove my image, and it doesn't change to default too, what can I do? :S
[20:04] <beuno> BlouBlou, there's a bug
[20:04] <beuno> where you need to upload the image *and* mark the radio button
[20:04] <beuno> did you click on the radio button when you specified the image?
[20:04] <beuno> it's a bug assigned to me that I never got to
[20:04] <beuno> 2 lines of javascript
[20:05] <BlouBlou> radio button? I don't see it :S
[20:05] <beuno> BlouBlou, when you click to uplaod the images
[20:05] <beuno> you have 3 sections for different sizes
[20:06] <BlouBlou> yes, I see
[20:06] <BlouBlou> done, changed :D, thanks a lot beuno
[20:07] <beuno> BlouBlou, you're welcome, and I'm sorry for not fixing the bug yet
[20:08] <BlouBlou> beuno: you're welcome  << well, I registered 2 years ago, but thanks ;)
[20:28] <BlouBlou> ok, see tomorrow :)
[20:29] <fale_> I've tryed to upload a package but I receive a 550 back :( any idea?
[20:48] <asantoni> ummm, I think I broke Launchpad
[20:48] <asantoni> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mixxxdevelopers/mixxx/trunk/annotate/head%3A/mixxx/src/engine/engineshoutcast.cpp
[20:48] <asantoni> ("Please try again" error... says to let #launchpad know if the problem persists, which it is)
[20:48] <beuno> asantoni, thanks
[20:49] <beuno> any losa around to bounce codebrowse?
[20:49] <Chex> beuno: on it, just restarted
[20:50] <asantoni> seems to be fixed, thanks Chex and beuno!
[20:50] <beuno> thanks Chex
[21:31] <ketil> I seem to be unable to upload to my PPA.  dput claims it does upload it, but nothing happens on the PPA web page in launchpad.
[21:34] <ketil> Maybe it just takes some time before the upload is registered?
[21:35] <ketil> Also - I'm unable to get dput to accept the signed .changes - if I give it changes, it will only upload with -u, if I give it changes.asc, it insists it is not a changes file.
[21:35] <ketil> Well - if anybody has any ideas, give me a ping.
[22:02] <maxb> ketil: Launchpad will not process unsigned changes files
[22:02] <maxb> Unfortunately, because they're unsigned, it doesn't know who to tell about this, so you get no notification at all
[22:03] <maxb> You should tell us what the actual errors you get from dput are
[22:24] <fale_> could I use a normal ftp program instead of dput?
[22:25] <kiko> you could, sure
[22:33] <lfaraone> kiko: did you get my message yesterday?
[22:39] <kiko> lfaraone, I didn't, but did you talk to deryck?
[22:39] <lfaraone> kiko: deryck said about a week ago that he'd email me, but I haven't heard anything from him and he's been off IRC.
[22:41] <kiko> hmm, has he been on vacation?
[22:41] <kiko> flacoste, can you tack on a reminder to talk to deryck about lfaraone's request for an import/export
[22:42] <lfaraone> kiko: thanks, sorry to bother you again.
[22:43] <flacoste> lfaraone: import/export for what exactly6
[22:43] <flacoste> ?
[22:43] <lfaraone> flacoste: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ , we want to do a test run before we do a full migration.
[22:44] <lfaraone> flacoste: it's currently trac, multiple components, and we already have a superproject in LP
[22:44] <kiko> lfaraone, flacoste and jml were talking about this today
[22:45] <lfaraone> kiko: ah, okay.
[22:45] <flacoste> ok
[22:51] <fale_> kiko: I have the same problem (it returns 550) :(
[22:53] <kiko> fale_, with what message?
[22:54] <fale_> kiko: file not found on client
[22:56] <kiko> fale_, sounds like you're uploading from the wrong place?
[22:56] <schmichael> i'm trying to upload mongodb 1.0 packages to my ppa and am getting "Checksum doesn't match for /.../mongodb_1.0.0.dsc" when i try to dput
[22:56] <fale_> kiko: no, it's the right place... I think that is the same of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dput/+bug/193848
[22:57] <schmichael> this is my first attempt at deb packaging & uploading to a ppa
[22:57] <fale_> schmichael: have you edited debian/changelog?
[22:58] <schmichael> fale_: yes
[22:58] <schmichael> fale_: want me to pastebin anything?
[22:58] <fale_> schmichael: do you have generated a pgp key and uploaded it on launchpad??
[22:58] <schmichael> fale_: yes, but let me double check that launchpad has it
[22:58] <fale_> ok ;)
[22:59] <schmichael> fale_: from launchpad: D9202D77 from dput output: D9202D77
[22:59] <schmichael> so same :)
[23:00] <fale_> good ;)
[23:00] <fale_> schmichael: try to pastbin the last piece of the changelog ;)
[23:01] <schmichael> fale_: http://dpaste.de/cZMc/
[23:01] <schmichael> fale_: that includes dput's output as well as my changelog
[23:02] <schmichael> note that mongodb's source tar.gz already had a debian folder which is where the 0.9.7 changelog entry came from
[23:02] <schmichael> i used 'dch -v 1.0.0' to add myself to the changelog
[23:03] <fale_> schmichael: that's strange.. it seems right to me..
[23:04] <schmichael> :(
[23:04] <fale_> kiko: I'm trying to see if is a problem related to my connettivity
[23:11] <schmichael> fale_: rebuilt everything with debuild -S and it seems to be working now
[23:11] <fale_> cool :)
[23:20] <schmichael> *sigh*
[23:20] <schmichael> new error
[23:20] <schmichael> my changes got rejected because: Launchpad failed to process the upload path 'incoming = ~schmichael/schmichael/ubuntu':
[23:21] <schmichael> my launchpad id is schmichael & my ppa's name is schmichael
[23:21] <schmichael> oh
[23:21] <schmichael> ha
[23:21] <schmichael> major typo in .dput.cfg ;)
[23:21] <fale_> kiko: I putted it with ftp... how can I be sure it arrived?
[23:22] <fale_> ;)
[23:23] <schmichael> it seems to be telling me i need to bump my version to re-upload
[23:23] <schmichael> but when i do: dch -v 1.0.0~schmichael1 ...it tells me that version number is less than 1.0.0
[23:24] <fale_> schmichael: you can use the "-f" ;)
[23:26] <fale_> schmichael: -f in dput ;)
[23:26] <schmichael> oh
[23:26] <schmichael> i used -b with dch
[23:26] <schmichael> *shrug*
[23:27] <kiko> fale_, it'll email you if you signed the package properly!
[23:27]  * schmichael is waiting patiently for his e-mail
[23:27] <schmichael> well, maybe not patiently
[23:27] <fale_> kiko: no mails coming :(
[23:30] <schmichael> how long does it usually take before the confirmation e-mail arrives?
[23:30] <schmichael> my rejected mail came almost instantly :)
[23:31] <fale_> schmichael: some minutes (usually less than 5)
[23:35] <fale_> kiko: I have to upload 4 files, isn't it?
[23:35] <kiko> yep
[23:36] <fale_> kiko: ok, than I should have putted everything was needed... but no mail arriving :(
[23:36] <kiko> fale_, then it couldn't verify your signature
[23:36] <fale_> kiko: it can of all the other packages I sent today and the days before...
[23:37]  * schmichael still hasn't gotten any mail either fwiw
[23:38] <fale_> schmichael: it that the first package of your ppa?
[23:38] <schmichael> yep
[23:39] <fale_> schmichael: mine too... maybe it takes a little bit longer..
[23:41] <schmichael> oh looks like there are quite a few packages to be built in the ppa queue
[23:41] <schmichael> https://launchpad.net/builders
[23:42] <fale_> schmichael: it should send you a main to say "hey, the package arrived and I putted it in queue" ;)
[23:43] <schmichael> ah
[23:43] <fale_> kiko: there are a lot of armel machine... why lp does not support arm compilation?
[23:46] <kiko> fale_, because for PPAs there's no virtualization available as free software
[23:46] <kiko> fale_, we wanna do them, but haven't gotten around to it yet
[23:47] <fale_> kiko: I see... than is possible that soon we will be able to compile in more platform with ppa?
[23:48] <kiko> fale_, well, you already can -- amd64 ia32 and the little intel one, what's the name?
[23:49] <fale_> lpia ;)
[23:49] <fale_> kiko: yes, I was meaning more than the available now ;)
[23:50] <kiko> right!
[23:50] <fale_> :)
[23:56] <fale_> The mail arrived :):):):):):)
[23:56] <schmichael> fale_: congrats :)  i'm still waiting
[23:57] <fale_> https://launchpad.net/~boost-latest/+archive/ppa/+packages :)
[23:57] <fale_> schmichael: I think your package will have a 6hrs queue in front of it ;)
[23:58] <schmichael> fale_: no confirmation mail before its built?
[23:58] <fale_> schmichael: yes, the confirmation arrived... for the build.. I'll have to wait ~5hrs ;)
[23:59] <schmichael> ahhh
[23:59] <fale_> schmichael: but it must create the repository key before sending you back the mail ;)