[11:26] <brunch875> whoops, it seems I've dropped my phone too many times
[11:26] <brunch875> it cannot vibrate anymore
[11:27] <brunch875> and it's definitely not an ubuntu bug since the factory test doesn't work
[11:28] <brunch875> apparently the mobile congress has begun
[11:28] <brunch875> it'd be nice to see a new utouch :p
[17:36] <dobey> kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/keeper/devel/+merge/318388
[17:37] <dobey> kenvandine: i'm adding it to your silo
[22:11] <dobey> https://github.com/CallMeAldy/device_google_marlin
[22:11] <dobey> hmmmmmmmmm


[03:51] <lytefyre> hi anyone know how to fix screen resolution , I have a dell latop capable of doing 1024x768 but im only getting 640x480
[03:55] <zeratha> I am having some issues with kubuntu. No one in #kubuntu is very helpful, as they seem more intrested in their cars... :-(
[04:01] <Riddell> zeratha: I don't have a car
[04:01] <Riddell> what are the issues?
[04:01] <zeratha> All KDE based apps I install fail with a rather long, annoying error message. After installing kubuntu and logging into KDE I get this message: "Could not start process. Unable to create io-slave. Klauncher said Unknown protocol 'file'.
[04:02] <Riddell> zeratha: some library not talking to some other library.  how did you install?
[04:02] <zeratha> via synaptic.
[04:02] <Riddell> and what did you install?
[04:03] <zeratha> First just K3b and the Amarok, after that I uninstalled both and tried the entire Kubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <zeratha> Twice now.... :-(
[04:03] <Riddell> from hoary?
[04:03] <zeratha> I really just want those to apps
[04:03] <zeratha> Yes
[04:03] <Riddell> I wonder if that's k3b doing evil permissions things
[04:04] <zeratha> It doesn't seem to be K3b related. I have done this on two other machines without a problem
[04:04] <Riddell> make sure /tmp/.kde-myuser is owned by myuser
[04:04] <zeratha> OK, BRB
[04:04] <Riddell> and /tmp/.ICE-unix is owned by root
[04:04] <zeratha> ok
[04:05] <dato> itym /tmp/kde-user
[04:05] <Riddell> dato: itym?
[04:06] <dato> "I think you mean"
[04:06] <Riddell> so I do
[04:06] <dato> (dict itym says)
[04:06] <zeratha> /tmp/kde-zeratha is owned by zeratha.users.... /tmp/.ICE-unix root.root.....
[04:07] <Riddell> tis a mistery
[04:07] <dato> I'd say something is screwed under ~/.kde
[04:07] <zeratha> Tell me about it.
[04:08] <zeratha> dato, I'll try renaming it and see.
[04:09] <zeratha> BRB, gotta log out
[06:33] <Riddell> new kdelibs, kdemultimedia and kdebase uploaded with various fixes to k-menu
[06:33] <Riddell> new konserve uploaded with patch for kmenu and layout
[06:34] <Riddell> new kubuntu-default-settings with anti-aliased fonts
[06:59] <fabbione> guys can you please fix (this time for real) kdesdk? it's 3 uploads that it FTBFS
[06:59] <fabbione> becuase one patch doesn't apply
[06:59] <fabbione> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdesdk/4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3/
[06:59] <fabbione> thanks :-)
[09:24] <amu> moin
[09:25] <amu> fabbione: it's on the way
[09:25] <fabbione> thanks amu :-)
[09:33] <haggai> I thought Riddell was going back to a normal sleep pattern
[09:39] <elmo> amu: fixing kdepim is still on your todo list right?
[09:39] <amu> elmo: yep
[09:39] <amu> elmo: i'll fix also the last know bugs
[09:40] <elmo> ok, just checking
[11:02] <dholbach> hey
[11:02] <dholbach> what was the final decision towards python2.4?
[11:02] <dholbach> i can't remember it
[11:04] <haggai> that you were looking at an obsolete package?
[11:07] <dholbach> no... it was included more than one package - i just wanted to make sure, i could tick off everything kde-related from our lists
[11:07] <haggai> more than one source package?
[11:10] <dholbach> yes
[11:10] <dholbach> but i'm making sure first
[11:10] <dholbach> before i'm becoming a pain in the neck :-)
[11:11] <haggai> looks like sip-qt3 needs love
[11:11] <dholbach> herve is working on it
[11:12] <haggai> great
[11:12] <haggai> kdevelop has a 2.3 dep but Riddell is working on that anyway
[11:12] <dholbach> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePythonTransitionTODO still says:
[11:12] <dholbach>  JonathanRiddel?
[11:12] <dholbach>
[11:12] <dholbach> kdebindings, kdevelop3, koffice -- KDE 3.4 is currently being packaged, no use transitioning 3.3 for now
[11:13] <dholbach> that's why i was asking
[11:13] <dholbach> they all contain python bits somewhere
[11:13] <haggai> kdebindings:  that's what I'm doing right now, kdevelop: Riddell (yes Jonathan Riddell), koffice: nothing done yet
[11:13] <dholbach> but if you guys say WONTFIX, it's no problem and i'll chuck them from all our lists
[11:14] <haggai> koffice won't be a part of kubuntu main I don't think, so that's the only one that isn't getting any love at the moment
[11:14] <dholbach> it's just the amount of the MOTU lists grew more and more, so i want to regain control somehow :-)
[11:15] <dholbach> ok thanks for telling me
[11:16] <haggai> so where to put koffice?
[11:17] <haggai> is there a place for unloved packages, or should I leave next to Riddell?
[11:18] <haggai> I've updated the page
[11:18] <dholbach> unloved packages ... *sigh* it'll be a MOTU thing then
[11:20] <haggai> well we might find time but I don't want to hold things up by saying we will and then not doing it
[11:20] <dholbach> right
[11:21] <dholbach> and maybe we'll have MotuKdeEnthusiasts-Team soon
[11:21] <dholbach> we should encourage those kinds of teams pretty much
[11:22] <haggai> right
[11:23] <dholbach> ok... back to  UniverseDoesNotBuild
[11:27] <haggai> thanks for your help
[11:28] <dholbach> it's a pleasure :-)
[11:36] <amu> 11:34 < pitti> amu, Riddell: did I already forward you the long-outstanding TIFF vulns in
[11:36] <amu>                kdegraphics?
[01:44] <Riddell> amu: I don't think he did firward the long-outstanding TIFF vulns
[02:21] <Riddell> can anyone work out what has caused these failures?  http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdelibs/4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3/
[02:32] <Riddell> kdeaccessiblity is in, I'll bump up the version number
[02:36] <amu> Riddell: probably a missing Doxyfile.am /arts is missing ?
[02:41] <Riddell> amu: but why would it build on the other architectures?
[02:41] <Riddell> amu: and what's wrong with powerpc, that's a different error
[02:58] <Riddell> amu: are you doing kdeaddons?  you need to take back 8038 if you are
[04:44] <amu> Riddell: that looks strange, right
[04:44] <amu> yep i do, already fixed it
[04:44] <Riddell> amu: what looks strange?  fixed what?
[04:45] <amu> 14:41 < Riddell> amu: but why would it build on the other architectures?
[04:45] <amu> 14:58 < Riddell> amu: are you doing kdeaddons?  you need to take back 8038 if you are
[04:46] <amu> Riddell: did you saw pitti's question on #u-d ?
[04:46] <Riddell> amu: I did, want me to do it or shall you?
[04:48] <amu> Riddell: no it was a suggestion just in this case you're working atm on them, if not i'll add a bug
[04:48] <froud> amu: for knetwork-conf there is a bug. I dunno if it is kubuntu specific. but apparently when use presses "Apply" the environment should be updated.
[04:49] <amu> froud: did you tested it ex. on another system?
[04:49] <froud> no just on kubuntu
[04:50] <froud> amu: but juan says it should work
[04:51] <froud> Try this:
[04:51] <amu> froud: could you please add a bug with all the information
[04:51] <froud>
[04:51] <froud> /ust/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --get > network.xml
[04:51] <froud>
[04:51] <froud> Edit network.xml and change some config value, for example your ip address.
[04:51] <froud>
[04:51] <froud> /ust/share/apps/knetworkconf/backends/network-conf --set < network.xml
[04:51] <froud> amu: ok
[04:52] <froud> amu: btw did you know it is now in KDE cvs review
[04:53] <amu> :) yep, i'm in contact with upstream
[06:54] <Riddell> can someone test kdevelop3 at deb http://jasmine.19inch.net/~jr/away/kubuntu ./
[09:46] <haggai> Riddell: do you have a mirror with your new kdebase yet?  I see ubuntu9 built but my uk mirror doesn't seem to have it yet
[10:03] <haggai> Riddell: I don't see a menu item
[10:03] <haggai> for kdevelop
[10:04] <haggai> Riddell: also, several icons missing in left hand pane of project options, e.g. General
[10:06] <Riddell> haggai: nope, don't have kdebase -ubuntu9, and if the uk mirror doesn't have it that means none of them do
[10:07] <Riddell> haggai: kdevelop seems to have some missing files, hopefully I can add them and that'll sort it
[10:08] <haggai> 30655 chris     25   0  773m 706m 2888 R 83.3 72.1   9:42.98 cc1plus
[10:08] <haggai> oggle
[10:10] <elmo> LOL
[10:49] <Riddell> http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/lwn-ubuntu-kubuntu-review.html
[10:52] <apokryphos> Great comments generally all around; cool stuff. :)
[11:05] <Riddell> amu's on a roll today.  Gaelic added, about time too
[11:08] <amu> ... it was a bitcircumstantially to upload those 330MB
[11:10] <amu> and of course a good test for elmo's buildd :)
[11:10] <apokryphos> Hm, so if there's problems with kde Universe packages, I can't create a bug report?
[11:11] <amu> apokryphos: which package?
[11:12] <apokryphos> PyKDE stuff; I know you guys know of it, but I thought it would be helpful to keep track with a bug report...
[11:13] <Riddell> apokryphos: add it to kde marked for kubuntu
[11:13] <haggai> apokryphos: python-dcop or something different?
[11:13] <apokryphos> python2.3-kde3 and python-kde3
[11:15] <amu> apokryphos: yep, problem is universe is not supported by bugzilla, there's a kind of backdoor, Package is UNKNOWN and assign it to us, i started to fix it and it hangs on a unknown .sip error
[11:15] <apokryphos> Ok, cool; adding now.
[11:15] <amu> ... i contacted the motu team, they told me riddell is also working on it :)
[11:15] <haggai> heh nice one Riddell :)
[11:16] <Riddell> well, it's on my todo list, anyone else who wants to do it first is more than welcome
[11:18] <apokryphos> To assign it to you guys I just put in kubuntu-bugs email address, right?
[11:18] <amu> Riddell: ok, i'll take it after kdesdk is done, what i did, i fixed/checked the depends, imho it's only this python sip problem.
[11:19] <amu> apokryphos: yep, in this case directly to me, than we can save a bit time, someone readdress it.
[11:19] <haggai> bah, my laptop test env ran out of space, time to ditch ubuntu..
[11:19] <apokryphos> ok
[11:21] <amu> Riddell: if you did more than me, or if you're deeper in it, you're welcome to take it back, just look to my buildd
[11:21] <Riddell> amu: you go ahead
[11:21] <Riddell> I've not done anything so far
[11:22] <elmo> guys, are you nearing completion in your marathon of uploads?
[11:23] <opi> g'day/night :)
[11:23] <amu> elmo: i just start it :) it will a nice evening for you idle cpu
[11:24] <elmo> well, reason I ask is, there's a bunch of uninstallable's, wondering if that's because you're still mid-uploads, or if it's somethingI should be chasing you about
[11:25] <amu> elmo: it's cause of mid-uploads .... kdepim ppc is still missing, which blocks _all_
[11:27] <elmo> ok, it's in needs-build.. one of the buildds should take it soon
[11:27] <elmo> or will now I've started one
[11:27] <amu> thx,
[11:28] <elmo> kde-i18n is arch: any?
[11:28] <amu> elmo: needs-build is fine ....
[11:28] <elmo> nm, no it's not
[11:29] <amu> ufff, i checked it very carefull, except the linitan
[11:30] <amu> hey opi ;)
[11:39] <opi> hi ami
[11:39] <opi> and elmo
[11:39] <elmo> hi opi
[11:39] <opi> Anyone of you have some experience with QTDesigner and Python?
[11:39] <haggai> woo finaly a kdebindings that builds and has everything in the right places
[11:40] <opi> I mean, GTK has Glade and Glade-Python bindings
[11:40] <opi> it's kinda offtopic, but ;)
[11:41] <opi> I'm developing small thing, and I would like to add face to it, but I was building GUIs from hand back at AmigaOS, now I'm too lazy
[11:41] <haggai> time for bed, back in the morning
[11:41] <Riddell> haggai: well done, not going to upload?
[11:42] <haggai> Riddell: I only said the files are in the right places, not that I'd actually tested them thoroughly...
[11:42] <Riddell> fair enough
[11:42] <haggai> :) night
[11:42] <Riddell> guid nicht
[11:47] <opi> night haggai


[21:59] <hakimsheriff> Hey Guys
[22:25] <Linden940> hello hakimsheriff
[22:25] <Linden940> whats up?
[22:28] <hakimsheriff> nothing much
[22:29] <hakimsheriff> not much activity in this team is there?
[22:31] <Linden940> in the marketing an quality teams it has its time of slow an speed
[22:31] <Linden940> quality is busy around new releases an so on becuz there is just a ton of things going on
[22:31] <Linden940> marketing is slow but alot of things are worked on for the site docs an even web items
[22:32] <Linden940> all i will say is....marketing is a easy team to follow....


[07:59] <cjwatson> livecd-rootfs fixes ubuntu-touch build failures
[08:00] <cjwatson> not totally sure why that's still hardcoded, but not investigating that at 9am on a Saturday
[08:19] <cjwatson> There's one merge and three rebuilds needed for Perl 5.20.1, that I know about.  Staging in my PPA
[08:26] <cjwatson> And landing
[08:28] <cjwatson> (libpar-packer-perl was auto-accepted)
[11:19] <ogra_> can someone please let this in ^^^^ so we get working touch images again
[12:26] <ogra_> stgraber, are you around ? we have a bad image on s-i
[12:26] <asac> infinity: slangasek: stgraber: cjwatson: ^^
[12:26] <asac> ogra_: whoelse?
[12:26] <asac> there must be more
[12:27] <ogra_> asac, dunno, LP should know who is -release
[12:27] <asac> Laney: ^
[12:27] <asac> ScottK: Riddell: ^^
[12:28] <asac> tumbleweed: ^^
[12:28] <asac> please check with ogra - emergency
[12:29] <Mirv> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+members
[12:50] <tumbleweed> I could approve that, but I can't do anything about building new images
[12:50] <ogra_> tumbleweed, i can ... we just need that in
[12:51] <tumbleweed> ogra_: I've seen situations where ^ii isn't exactly what is wanted, and ^.i is more accurate, but I assume you've tested this or, we use similar constructions elsewhere in that file
[12:51] <asac> tumbleweed: pleae approve!!
[12:51] <asac> thanks!
[12:51] <ogra_> tumbleweed, yes i tested that on a running system
[12:52] <tumbleweed> ok, approved
[12:52] <ogra_> (it will need smoe correction next week to not hardcode the 8 and 3 in the package names, but for an emergency fix it is good right now)
[12:53] <Mirv> \o/
[14:05] <bluesabre> SRU team, please release the above menulibre into trusty-proposed so we can begin verification
[14:05] <bluesabre> xfdesktop MRE has also been sitting in an unaccepted state for a while now, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1365965
[14:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1365965 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "[MRE] Please update xfdesktop4 to 4.11.8 in Trusty" [Undecided,In progress]
[14:06] <bluesabre> please let me know if there are any questions :-)
[14:22] <infinity> tumbleweed: There aren't just some situations, ^.i is *always* what you want, unless you're actually testing for the desired state (which nearly no one is)
[14:22] <infinity> tumbleweed: Luckily, in the case of livecd-rootfs, it's pretty unlikely that a package will be on hold, etc.
[14:23] <infinity> ogra_: post-accept review of that upload.  Why are you manually setting the alternative if you've also made sure the right packages are installed?  Seems redundant?
[14:24] <ogra_> infinity, i didnt make sure the right packages are installed ... there is dependency breakage that pulled the -mesa packages in additionally
[14:24] <infinity> ogra_: Oh, you mean you're getting both now?
[14:24] <ogra_> infinity, and depending on the  order apt installs tem in the chroot you might end up with the wrong alternative
[14:24] <ogra_> right
[14:24] <infinity> Gross.
[14:24] <infinity> Please fix that?  Having useless packages installed is silly.
[14:25] <ogra_> we need to fix the dep ... but i cant do a quick upload of mir
[14:25]  * infinity nods.
[14:25] <ogra_> so as emergency fix forcing the alternative is ok
[14:25] <infinity> Yeah, that's fine, as long as the better fix is on the TODO.
[14:25] <ogra_> and long term it will save us from the same issue if -mesa slips in again
[14:26] <ogra_> (well, after i fixed the matching in the code ... that hardcoded numbers in tteh package names indeed need to go)
[14:26] <ogra_> for now getting the phones out there to boot again is #1 prio :)
[14:26] <infinity> ogra_: And the other bit, tumbleweed's mention of ^.i instead of ^ii is true.  We don't actually have anything on the livefses that's in a state other than ^i, but who knows if someone might decide to change that for some specific image for some weird reason, even if just a temp hack in a hook.  Better to always use the form that means what you want.
[14:26] <infinity> ogra_: But also not a big deal.
[14:27] <ogra_> well, i shoul dprobably drop the whole check
[14:27] <ogra_> so that the build actually fails if the -android packages are not there
[14:27]  * infinity nods.
[14:27] <infinity> It's also, again, redundant because you ask for them by name in the install pass.
[14:27] <ogra_> but it felt safer for an emergency fix to do it with a check for the moment
[14:27] <infinity> But I imagine seeds might eventually do that right and you'll remove that.
[14:28] <ogra_> right
[14:28] <infinity> But yes, checking if a package is installed before doing a mandatory thing with it will miss errors, as you say.
[14:28] <ogra_> well, i would like to keep forcing the alternative to make it future proof, as i said
[14:29] <infinity> Could you not just make the android alternative prio higher?
[14:29] <infinity> This is one of those cases where I can't see why a desktop user would ever install the android package.
[14:29] <infinity> So it's safe to assume that if you install the android one, that's the one you want to win.
[14:34] <ogra_> yeah, i dont think our issue are the desktop users that install stuff ... but the desktop-next seed
[14:34] <ogra_> (which needs to use mesa)
[14:35] <ogra_> theoretically there should always be a seed entry for -android in touch and -mesa in desktop-next
[14:35] <ogra_> but if the package gets updated without seed change alongside such crap can happen
[21:22] <tumbleweed> infinity: what I meant was situations where it ^ii doesn't work at all :)


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[16:45] <girlielt> so speck up
[16:45] <cachio> hi
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[16:47] <girlielt> cachio: I need to fuckk you
[16:47] <girlielt> NOW
[16:52] <jjohansen> sforshee: the current iteration of LSM stacking patches are http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/jj/ubuntu-artful.git/log/?h=lsm-stacking  I know there are some revisions coming but with plumbers and LSS this week I don't expect them for a while
[16:58] <sforshee> jjohansen: you want those pulled into artful?
[16:59] <jjohansen> sforshee: if we can delay a little bit that would be good, but you might want to start playing with them on your end
[17:00] <jjohansen> I am hoping to get a better feel of things this week, at plumbers and LSS
[17:00] <jjohansen> and we can make a call after that
[17:00] <sforshee> jjohansen: sounds good. I'll be a plumbers too.


[00:12] <abimael> hello
[00:13] <rmg51> hi
[00:14] <abimael> how are you?
[00:14] <rmg51> good
[00:14] <rmg51> nd you?
[00:14] <rmg51> what happened to my a?
[00:15] <abimael> great, thanks. I believe im awaiting launchpad team approval. Posted to forum and all, live in DE, new to ubuntu, learning python and decided to join PA LoCo
[00:16] <abimael> Of Course, only because there is no LoCo team right now for Delaware, but I really hope I can meet some people and be able to learn from them, while i do my own studying, you know?
[00:16] <rmg51> may as well, since there doesn't seem to be  De team
[00:17] <rmg51> we have had a few from DE in here before
[00:17] <abimael> oh ok, well thats great, your in DE too?
[00:17] <rmg51> not me
[00:18] <rmg51> we let just about any one join our team
[00:19] <abimael> oh ok, is that a bad thing?
[00:19] <rmg51> not really
[00:20] <abimael> oh ok
[00:20] <rmg51> those who now live out of state once lived here
[00:20] <rmg51> they just love us so much they just can't leave us ;-)
[00:21] <abimael> :-)
[00:24] <rmg51> anyway...... welcome to the team
[00:24] <rmg51> feel free to hang out here
[00:24] <abimael> thank you
[00:25] <rmg51> maybe others will wake up and chat with you
[00:26] <rmg51> I have some things to do so I will be away from my laptop
[00:30] <abimael> yeah hopefully, k thanks
[01:15] <abimael> how can i start contributing to ubuntu? i see all these developers adding codes and fixing bugs, how can i do something like this?
[01:16] <jthan> abimael: There are lots of ways to get involved.  You can become involved physically by going to LoCo events.  You should look out for bug jam every year.  You can work on documentation.  Or triaging bugs.
[01:17] <jthan> If you'd rather be working on the programming end of things.. most people stick with a single project or two at first to get their feet wet and see how it goes.
[01:18] <abimael> ok. should I be specifically proficient in a certain area and look for certain projects that fit my preference?
[01:18] <jthan> Well - do you already know a certain programming language?
[01:18] <abimael> im learning python right now, thru LEARN PYTHON the hard way and reading O'Reillys
[01:18] <JonathanD> abimael: are you a philadelphian?
[01:19] <jthan> JonathanD: Don't steal my thunder :-p
[01:19] <JonathanD> jthan: I'm just going to invite him to fosscon ;)
[01:19] <jthan> Fine, fine.
[01:19] <JonathanD> But I'll let you do it.
[01:19] <abimael> no, Delawarean, but funny enough me and my fiancee were looking into moving up there once i get a few certs under my belt
[01:19] <jthan> Actually you better since I don't know anything about it. Lol. I just like to sass my elders.
[01:19] <JonathanD> jthan: it is my sworn duty to invite everyone to fosscon.
[01:19] <abimael> i already got my tickets for FOSSCON
[01:19] <jthan> Good.
[01:19] <JonathanD> abimael: well, there you go. Lots of ubuntu-pa people will be there.
[01:20] <abimael> unfortunately, i wasnt able to support right now but hopefully i can once the event comes
[01:20] <JonathanD> abimael: thats ok :)
[01:20] <JonathanD> showing up is supporting!
[01:20] <jthan> So. You're on your way by learning Python.  Which, by the way, is a great language. If you ever hit any snags I can try to help you.  I used to be fairly proficient in the language.
[01:20] <jthan> I recommend picking a project you like (even better if it is written in python) and start triaging bugs / working on documentation if you can. This is how most people get started.
[01:20] <jthan> abimael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[01:21] <abimael> cool, thats great.
[01:21] <jthan> oops.
[01:21] <abimael>  Yeah ive been trying to read up as much as possible and do my codes, Im only on simple stuff right now but thats the basis
[01:24] <abimael> hey, so how do I know what project or bugs are python written? and how would I like fix it and send the modified code? Im still so new to how this all works
[01:25] <jthan> That link I gave you should cover a whole lot of that. You're going to want to especially read about Launchpad and sign up for an account.
[01:26] <abimael> yeah, im signed up for launchpad, signed codeofconduct and all that
[01:27] <abimael> ok cool, sounds great, thank you
[01:38] <jedijf> abimael: i think you were approved: valle-e08 approved by freelancer317
[01:39] <abimael> jedijf: yes, i was. Thank you
[01:39] <jthan> abimael: So you should practice! Triage a bug!
[01:40] <abimael> I'm still learning, not sure if I'm ready yet. Im reading the documentation on Launchpad and ContributeToUbuntu
[01:40] <abimael> Still trying to understand how this all works
[01:41] <jedijf> abimael: i sent you the fosscon link too
[01:41] <abimael> I already got my tickets
[01:41] <abimael> thanks
[01:41] <jthan> abimael: got your email too ;-)
[01:42] <abimael> Yes, Thank you. Im excited. Trying to tackle python so that I can be able to contribute and exercise what I've learned
[01:43] <jedijf> abimael: it's so exciting, and there are many different avenues you can take - answering questions on askubuntu
[01:43] <jthan> It's funny. The first time I joined this channel was when I wanted to learn to program. So I spoke with kejava (who is.. alive but never here. He's off being a dad) and I learned Python
[01:44] <JonathanD> Running out of battery.
[01:44] <jedijf> triaging is a good way to find projects that you may like working with more permenantly
[01:44] <abimael> yeah, and I've been on here and ubuntuforums as well. Yeah, that's awesome.
[01:45] <jedijf> you could do an "Ubuntu Hour" somewhere
[01:45] <jedijf> feel free to use our mailing list and forums to announce it
[01:45] <abimael> what do you mean by that?
[01:46] <jedijf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour/
[01:46] <jedijf> Wilmington U, so you could do Golden pigeon diner or whatever the new name is
[01:46] <jedijf> abners
[01:47] <jedijf> arners my bad
[01:47] <JonathanD> night folks.
[01:47] <jedijf> night JonathanD
[01:47] <abimael> Yeah, thats awesome. night JonathanD
[01:48] <jedijf> last year at wilington U there was a bsides...gonna be another in november, just don't have location yet
[01:48] <abimael> cool, gotta question. Since im focusing on python, How would I know which projects are python based so that I could try to focus on those?
[01:49] <jthan> Hold on..
[01:49] <jedijf> it's there on the bug page
[01:49] <jthan> abimael: Here are /some/
[01:49] <jthan> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonProjects
[01:49] <jthan> But yes, there are more on the bug page sorted by language I believe.
[01:49] <jedijf> korrect
[01:49] <jedijf> you can filter
[01:50] <abimael> oh ok, just a matter of correct searching
[01:50] <jedijf> i only want python apps written by devs who wear chartreuse socks
[01:50] <jthan> I want a pair of kevlar socks
[01:51] <jedijf> my rasperry pi came today and it's grand daughter weekend
[01:51] <jthan> Better get some toys for her.
[01:51] <jedijf> we're going to see dinosaurs tomorrow
[01:51] <abimael> raspberry pi??
[01:52] <jedijf> yeah, we did an unboxing at hive76 last sunday
[01:52] <jedijf> i should actually blog about it
[01:52] <abimael> I really am wishing I lived in PA, and YES you should
[01:53] <jedijf> abimael: are you in/near wilmington
[01:53] <abimael> No, used to live in Wilmington, Im down in Dover for now
[03:25] <jthan> IdleOne: geez.
[03:25] <IdleOne> what?
[03:25] <jthan> That guy is a little hard pressed
[03:26] <IdleOne> more specific please?
[03:26] <jthan> The op.. who kicked angryspam whats his face.
[03:26] <jthan> I don't want to name names :-p
[03:28] <IdleOne> well, all I can say is that if you feel something is unjust you should speak up.
[03:28] <jthan> Well people that don't sit on irc all day don't know what's not acceptable. Kicking them with no warning isn't going to help.
[03:29] <IdleOne> You have a point there.
[03:30] <IdleOne> But the person you are standing up for has a cloak and registered account on this network. they clearly have some clue about IRC and should know that you are supposed to read the entry messages when you join a channel.
[03:31] <IdleOne> the !guidelines are in that message
[03:31] <jthan> Truth. I think he was trying to be light hearted but <op> took it the wrong way.
[03:31] <IdleOne> I agree.
[03:53] <jthan> *frustrated*
[04:12] <IdleOne> heya x1k
[04:12] <x1k> :-)
[04:13] <x1k> anyone in the Williamsport area? or within an hour drive or so?
[04:13] <IdleOne> So, as far as what is going on in PA LoCo wise I am not really sure. I don't live in PA anymore but there is a mailing list for the LoCo you could jump on and ask/volunteer to help out with any events
[04:14] <IdleOne> You can always organize something in your area also. Ubuntu hours are a great way to spread the Ubuntu love https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour/
[04:15] <x1k> thanks idle!
[04:16] <IdleOne> !lists
[04:16] <IdleOne> err
[04:16] <x1k> i don't want to downplay IRC support, but i feel like i could be doing something more productive ubuntu-community-wise
[04:16] <IdleOne> http://lists.ubuntu.com is where you can find all the mailing lists for ubuntu
[04:17] <IdleOne> IRC contribution is a one of the things the Membership board looks at but not all Ubuntu members use IRC
[04:18] <x1k> it's unfortunately a dying breed
[04:18] <IdleOne> IRC dying?
[04:19] <IdleOne> As long as there are real geeks there will be IRC
[04:19] <x1k> i mean in new-user support
[04:19] <x1k> i absolutely love irc
[04:20] <x1k> but, if i was born in the mid-90's and am just getting into linux and having a problem, my first reaction wouldn't be to figure out how to connect to an irc channel
[04:22] <x1k> that's where #ubuntu-doc and AskUbuntu come in
[04:24] <x1k> hey abimael
[04:24] <abimael> heyy x1k
[04:27] <x1k> PA loco still going to FOSSCON 12 for an installfest? just checked an old email address and it's got a large archive of ubuntu-us-pa mailing list messages...
[10:18] <rmg51> Morning
[10:55] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:55] <JonathanD> x1k: yes
[11:52] <jedijf> x1k: come on down!
[11:52] <jedijf> lend a hand
[12:06] <SamuraiAlba> good bacon to all!
[12:07] <JonathanD> mmm bacon...
[12:09] <SamuraiAlba> Ea sucks.  That is all
[12:16] <JonathanD> Yes
[13:01] <waltman> Morning.
[13:08] <TheLordOfTime> bleh
[13:08] <TheLordOfTime> i should have slept in
[13:08]  * TheLordOfTime is TIRED
[13:47] <x1k> jedijf: JonathanD: hey thanks... just got up, sorry lol
[13:48] <x1k> never been to FOSSCON before.. seems cool
[14:03] <abimael> me neither, can't wait
[14:09] <TheLordOfTime> fosscon still in philly?
[14:09] <rmg51> yep
[15:12] <TheLordOfTime> when?  i might be able to get off work to stop over in philly for fosscon (unless its a bazillion degrees there)
[15:12] <x1k> its aug 11
[15:12] <x1k> what area are you coming from?
[15:13] <x1k> fosscon.org
[15:23] <TheLordOfTime> x1k:  pittsburgh :P
[17:30] <JonathanD> TheLordOfTime: just across the street then ;)
[17:38] <x1k> JonathanD: TheLordOfTime: i'm in the Williamsport area, let me know when you are coming by lol
[17:38] <JonathanD> To williamsport?
[17:38] <JonathanD> I haven't been there in ages.
[17:43] <x1k> you haven't missed much since
[17:44] <JonathanD> heh :)
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> JonathanD:  heh, indeed.
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> x1k:  will do, if i'm out that way
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> depends on how screwy my schedule is