[00:00] <k1l_> akkad: could just be some routing issues. the ips do work here
[00:00] <akkad> this is an older example
[00:00] <akkad> so abstractly what can one do to cleanup invalid cached mirror data for packages?
[00:02] <Kapuh> is there any good snapshot backup programs for ubuntu ?
[00:02] <raska_huyaska> zfs
[00:03] <akkad> zpool
[00:03] <bekks> Kapuh: Depends on the FS you are using.
[00:03] <akkad> but CDDL is an antiforking license.
[00:03] <raska_huyaska> btrfs + snapshot
[00:03] <Kapuh> is zfs still going for ubuntu ?
[00:03] <bekks> LVM snapshots.
[00:03] <akkad> yeah, but it's pretty slow compared to native systems
[00:03] <raska_huyaska> mark aanounce zfs but not ready
[00:04] <bekks> Then use a "native" FS ans LVM snapshots.
[00:04] <bekks> *and
[00:04] <akkad> ^^
[00:05] <OerHeks> openstack :-)
[00:10] <m000gle> I've been experiencing performance issues with Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment, despite having a plenty powerful machine.  Could someone help determine whether this is normal, and/or troubleshoot?
[00:10] <m000gle> [Ubuntu 15.04 64-bit, i7-2700k CPU, 16GB DDR3, Dual GeForce GTX 760 /w nvidia-3 proprietary drivers]
[00:11] <m000gle> When changing focus from one window to another there is a split second, but very noticeable, lag between the mouse click and the focus changing.
[00:11] <m000gle> I have verified that this is an issue unique to the Unity desktop, as Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 (same hardware, same xorg.conf, same driver version etc.) does not experience the issue.  I have also been through the CompizConfig Settings Manager and Nvidia X Server Settings to test turning v-sync off and other tweaks, but to no avail.
[00:11] <m000gle> This is, now, a more or less fresh installation to avoid the variables possibly introduced by my previous troubleshooting.
[00:11] <bren> can't install skype in 14.4 lts ... wtf
[00:12] <raska_huyaska> bren, web.skype.com html5
[00:12] <bren> nice
[00:14] <m000gle> bren: Also, make sure you have the Canonical Partners software source enabled (Software & Updates > Other Software), prior to any installation not downloaded directkly from the Skype website.
[00:15] <m000gle> I've made the mistake, of not having it enabled, before
[00:15] <OerHeks> true that
[00:15] <bren> m000gle : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1523060
[00:15] <bren> It's not possible
[00:15] <bren> i did that
[00:15] <m000gle> bren: Neat!  I wasn't aware of that.
[00:16] <bren> Me either
[00:18] <OerHeks> ah, apt gets really unhappy if you try to replace libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid with libgl1-mesa-glx.
[00:18] <OerHeks> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2016-January/016148.html
[00:18] <OerHeks> = fix
[00:19] <loveheartjoylove> I used about sixty percent of my 7x7 desktop configuration doing a web dev project today, the organization and such has been a breeze thanks to you compiz devs, thank you so so much for all your hard work. 49 desktops -`ღ´-
[00:22] <loveheartjoylove> oops that was meant for another channel
[00:22] <akku> hello!
[00:24] <akik> bren: this has worked for me in both 14.04 and 15.10. it installs 32-bit libs that skype needs. http://pastebin.com/raw/uVu7RC1A
[00:24] <akku> ubuntu sucks for 2 reasons: 1. segfaults, 2. super high cadence of releases
[00:25] <ikonia> akku: thats not what this channel is here for
[00:25] <ikonia> it's here to help if you if possible, not be a venting channel
[00:25] <akku> duly noted.
[00:26] <bren> yeah, ya cunt.  get that crap out of here
[00:26] <hggdh> ...
[00:26] <akku> how can i help u ikonia?
[00:26] <akik> !language
[00:26] <ikonia> akku: I'm not looking for help
[00:27] <bren> cunt
[00:27] <bren> -+++++++++++++
[00:29] <akku> does anyone know it thunderbolt (hotplug) is gonna be supported near time soon? graphics work fine but ethernet requires a reboot
[00:29] <ikonia> akku: it's going to depend what intel do,
[00:29] <ikonia> like you, I have solid support on graphics, but plugging it into any sort of port replicator really doesn't do much
[00:29] <clin> Hi all, I'm using xubuntu, is there any way to disable the monitor hotplugging or whatever it is? I have two identical monitors one plugged via HDMI the other DP, the DP monitor reports it's disabled when it gets told to go to standby and doesnt wake up correctly but the HDMI one does - and tbh I'd rather disable autodetection rather than fix the issue, I'm just not really sure what to google or whether it's
[00:30] <clin> implemented by X11 or Xfce..
[00:30] <akku> well AFAIR it was suposed to be part of 3.xx
[00:31] <ikonia> akku: I've had poor experience with it apart from display and some usb3 chipsets
[00:31] <Jman> #lubuntu
[00:31] <akku> full ack
[00:31] <akku> but macbooks with linux are great. just the thunderbolt ethernet thing sux
[00:32] <ikonia> akku: I have the same experience on my mac as on my thinkpad with thunderbolt, I just don't think it's fully supported/released by intel into the kernel yet
[00:32] <ikonia> thunderbolt is there - but all the options over thunderbolt, doesn't look good
[00:33] <akku> well thunderbold graphics work fine
[00:33] <akku> its just the damn pcie thunderbold ethernet
[00:34] <mutante> akku: what's better about a macbook with linux vs. a thinkpad with linux?
[00:35] <mutante> genuinely wondering, since it's a lot of money to spend
[00:35] <akku> thinkpads sux
[00:35] <mutante> akku: why is that
[00:35] <akku> sorry but all island keyboards sux
[00:35] <mutante> what's an island keyboard?
[00:36] <akku> chiclet
[00:36] <Ubuntu1510help> I can't enter password for lucks disk encryption after nvidia drivers installled ?   Ubuntu 15.10 ...  help ?/
[00:36] <iluminati> hi does thunderbolt work with linux
[00:36] <akku> the last good ones are 420
[00:36] <mutante> akku: ah, i dont have that on a X220
[00:36] <mutante> akku: i think those are just on the consumer devices
[00:37] <akku> yeah but now i had no choice
[00:37] <akku> was actually quite funny
[00:37] <mutante> as long as it's X series
[00:37] <mutante> it should be fine
[00:37] <akku> the HFS was completely FUBAR
[00:37] <mutante> still half the price of the macbook
[00:37] <akku> misalligned
[00:37] <ikonia> moving a bit off the topic here
[00:38] <Ubuntu1510help> Anyone else note this issue?
[00:38] <akku> sorry but xseris are crap, t series were good
[00:38] <transhuman_> hi I have updated grub line with bootchart=enable(d) I havent got it to actually create the bootchart I have also done an apt-get install of bootchart and the python gui
[00:39] <transhuman_> anyone know why it doesnt actually make the chart
[00:40] <Ubuntu1510help> I can't enter password for luks disk encryption after nvidia drivers installled ?   Ubuntu 15.10
[00:41] <OerHeks> Ubuntu1510help, 2 solutions maybe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/689064/cant-enter-password-for-luks-disk-encryption-after-nvidia-drivers-installed
[00:42] <Guest99180> I started my window manager using startx. Then I logged out. Now I have a black screen and don't know how to log in again. Help?
[00:43] <furkan> Guest99180: can you try ctrl+alt+f1?
[00:44] <Ubuntu1510help> OerHeks thank you.
[00:44] <Ubuntu1510help> I'll give that a shot.
[00:44] <Guest99180> Yeah, that's the black screen. I ran startx from there to begin with
[00:44] <furkan> do any of the other terminals work? f2 to f6?
[00:44] <Guest99180> I can switch to another tty, but i want to get back into my x session
[00:44] <furkan> oh i see
[00:45] <furkan> can't run startx again?
[00:45] <Guest99180> Yeah i can do that. Does that start a new x session, or resume the one i already have?
[00:46] <furkan> i'm not sure actually, i'm not all that familiar with how X works
[00:46] <Guest99180> I think that started a new one
[00:46] <Guest99180> Thanks for trying
[00:48] <akku> hey guys anyone has NVME???
[00:50] <akku> do you really get down to 30microsecs?
[01:02] <ARGHClientsss> How much would you charge a tax perparation business owner for installing Windows VPN on 8.1 and configuring 6 client machines to access a tax server?
[01:02] <ARGHClientsss> ~/ is 77002
[01:02] <ARGHClientsss> quick, like a bunny, need to create an invoice in 30 mins
[01:07] <LithiumTetroxide> Having an issue with apt-btrfs-snapshot, it's saying system lacks support. I have btrfs on / and /home, they are just different drives.
[01:07] <SuperRoach> Hello. i've added a developer ppa for an application, but how do i install it if the normal repos have the same package?
[01:08] <iluminati> hi does thunderbolt work with linux
[01:08] <trism> SuperRoach: if the version is greater you can just apt-get dist-upgrade (or install packagename), you can see what version would be installed from where with apt-cache policy packagename;
[01:08] <transhuman_> it appears bootchart is broken...giving up maybe in the next version it will be fixed
[01:10] <SuperRoach> trism, ah ok. apt-get upgrade didn't seem to pick it up. Can I look at the launchpad ppa info to check its package
[01:10] <trism> SuperRoach: if it requires new deps, upgrade won't do it
[01:11] <iluminati> SuperRoach, sudo apt-get -f install
[01:12] <SuperRoach> iluminati, wouldn't that force install the old version though? trying dist upgrade now
[01:13] <HamRadio25> Hey guys, anybody know of an app that will give me details of my hardware?
[01:13] <LithiumTetroxide> Suggestions on btrfs backup solutions for xubuntu 15.10? Prefer gui of some sort.
[01:16] <iluminati> SuperRoach, check /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:21] <qassem> Bluetooth has unexpectedly stopped working in 14.04. Cannot connect bluetooth headset.
[01:22] <LithiumTetroxide> If its a laptop, try sleep->unsleep. That fixes at least 3 of my ongoing issues, including occasional wifi/screen/bT issues
[01:22] <qassem> that's the command- just type sleep, then unsleep in terminal?
[01:23] <LithiumTetroxide> No, just meant to put it into and out of sleep mode lol
[01:23] <LithiumTetroxide> If its a laptop, ofc
[01:23] <Guest30546> hi every1
[01:23] <Guest30546> need help a lot
[01:23] <Guest30546> my networking is broken on 14.04
[01:23] <Guest30546> applet Network doent work and no icon for networking
[01:24] <Guest30546> now i use liveCD to get ur help
[01:24] <qassem> it is a laptop. i think i've done that. i'll try again... :)
[01:25] <belfegor> join ##programming
[01:25] <Guest30546> is there any method to reinstall packages, check them or repair wo internet? 14.04
[01:25] <belfegor> hmm
[01:26] <qassem> i tried to sleep and then unsleep the bluetooth...and now it still doesn't see the bt headset...
[01:27] <qassem> I'm trying to add the bt headset as a new device...that worked once before...but not now...when I got this problem this time, i thought i'd remove and reinstall the headset...but it isn't working this time :(
[01:28] <Bashing-om> !info aptoncd trusty
[01:29] <LithiumTetroxide> Well I just tried to turn bt on my phone and scan it just went black screen and now im force restarting. Not sure what I can help with. I just dont use bluetooth
[01:29] <LithiumTetroxide> Suspending and waking my laptop up made bt work again for me tho
[01:30] <Guest30546> help plz
[01:30] <qassem> the main reason i use bt is because i could not get the microphone to work on the laptop; it wouldn't work with a regular cord headset...but for some reason it works - or rather worked- on a bt headset
[01:30] <LithiumTetroxide> are you looking to install a very specific package, Guest?
[01:31] <Guest30546> me?
[01:31] <LithiumTetroxide> Yes
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Guest30546: Maybe like this : ' apt-cache show apt-offline ' .??
[01:31] <Guest30546> i just want to get back working for networking
[01:32] <LithiumTetroxide> Does it work on ethernet
[01:32] <Guest30546> Bashing-om: so after?
[01:33] <Guest30546> i cant see and test now - i use livecd
[01:39] <grkblood> i recently created an ubuntu server on a raid. i allocated a raid partition which is on /dev/md2 and is showing up as swap space but it's not getting used at all according to the top and free commands.
[01:40] <grkblood> how do i get the swap to work
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> I dunno why swap always does that
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> I figured it was because I have a lot of RAM
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> if you check in gparted you'll see swap is on
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> it will have a swap off option
[01:41] <grkblood> i have 8GM of ram with 16GB of swap
[01:41] <grkblood> 8GB*
[01:41] <loveheartjoylove> I'm not an Ubuntu dev or anything there has to be an answer
[01:43] <qassem> so for my bt problem,  this is the output for lsusb, hciconfig  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14719029/
[01:43] <qassem> are there any other commands i should run for my bt problem that would generate information?
[01:43] <clin> grkblood: it may not get used at all till you're running out of physical ram, try a memory intensive task and see what happens. I have 32gb w/ 5gb free, 126mb used swap out
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Guest30546: Sorry, can not help with WIFI, out of my experience range .
[01:48] <grkblood> clin, i tried that with this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1367/how-to-test-swap-partition
[01:48] <grkblood> the accepted answer has a program that eats up swap/ram
[01:49] <grkblood> i decreased the sleep to make i run fast and ran it up to 6GB of my 8GB
[01:49] <grkblood> of ram
[01:49] <grkblood> still, no swap at all was used on the system
[01:53] <barnito> check this out http://pine64.com/ it runs android 5.1 or linux and outputs h265 4k video for 15 bucks!!!!
[01:54] <grkblood> ahh, there it goes
[01:55] <clin> grkblood: I'm not great on low-level stuff, but I was under the impression the kernel will clear out cache and pretty much hit 100% ram before it starts on swap
[01:57] <grkblood> 16GB of swap was probably not necessary
[02:01] <clin> grkblood: I have a passionate hatred for swap, I've only ever really experienced my system hitting it then not being responsive enough to actually kill whatever is consuming it via a TTY or ssh, but assume there are preemptive watchdogs that I should have used...
[02:08] <karstensrage> does ubuntu have chroots?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> karstensrage: Yes .. I guess all linux has that ability .
[02:10] <ChrisAnymouse> Hi, I'm a fairly experienced ubuntu user but now I'm trying to install on a new macbook air to dual boot OSX/Ubuntu. I edited my partition table in OSX to create a new 200gb partition, installed refind and now I can boot off a live cd usb key, got wireless working correctly but the HD isn't showing up anywhere I can find it. The installer only sees the USB key and looking at dmesg I don't see any other sd devices
[02:10] <ChrisAnymouse> None of the guides I've found mention this problem
[02:11] <karstensrage> Bashing-om, what is chroot for?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> ChrisAnymouse: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[02:11] <ubuntu__> me again
[02:12] <ubuntu__> very important! stop updating 14.04
[02:12] <ubuntu__> its common problem!!
[02:12] <ChrisAnymouse> Jordan_U - I'm not on the computer at the moment, I can switch over if I need to but running that command just shows /dev/sda, the flash drive
[02:12] <ubuntu__> updates brakes networng!
[02:12] <ChrisAnymouse> Jordan_U I should mention I'm trying 15.10
[02:12] <ubuntu__> networking!
[02:13] <Bashing-om> karstensrage: Many things, it is a tool .. say access a broke systen, or run some applications in a jail .. ect ect .
[02:13] <Ben64> ubuntu__: I've updated 14.04 for almost 2 years now and it doesn't break networking. if you have a problem, explain it and maybe we can help you fix it
[02:13] <Jordan_U> ChrisAnymouse: Please pastebin the full output of "dmesg".
[02:13] <ubuntu__> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=272584.msg2149396#msg2149396
[02:13] <ubuntu__> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=272568.msg2149394#msg2149394
[02:13] <ubuntu__> me and 2 yet users have the problem
[02:14] <ubuntu__> its about todays update
[02:14] <Ben64> ubuntu__: i can't read that, can you explain the issue
[02:14] <karstensrage> Bashing-om, but it has no access to anything on the real system?
[02:14] <ubuntu__> no network icon no networkung applet
[02:14] <ubuntu__> cant use net
[02:15] <ubuntu__> we all write from phones or liveCD
[02:15] <ChrisAnymouse> Jordan_U - http://pastebin.com/maR122Fe
[02:16] <ubuntu__> i think there`s bug in network-manager
[02:16] <ubuntu__> and its in LTS!!!!
[02:16] <ubuntu__> any distributers here?
[02:17] <Ben64> ubuntu__: explain the issue, come in here with ubuntu running and maybe we can figure it out, saying stuff like that doesn't help anything
[02:17] <ubuntu__> i cant come here in ubuntu
[02:17] <ubuntu__> cause its brick! there s no more networking at all
[02:17] <Ben64> ubuntu__: ok so use another computer to chat on
[02:18] <ubuntu__> i have only one PC
[02:18] <ubuntu__> and now its inder LiveCD
[02:18] <Ben64> how do you connect to the internet
[02:18] <ubuntu__> now - wifi
[02:18] <ubuntu__> but now i use 1604 LiveCD
[02:18] <Ben64> normally what?
[02:19] <ubuntu__> normally - wifi or 4g modem
[02:19] <Ben64> ubuntu__: boot into ubuntu, and try running "nm-applet"
[02:20] <ubuntu__> there`s mistake on russian
[02:20] <Ben64> then maybe you should be asking in #ubuntu-ru
[02:20] <ubuntu__> something like "sorry this are incompatable versions"
[02:20] <Ben64> there might already be a known solution
[02:21] <ubuntu__> I did on fi=orum
[02:21] <ubuntu__> forum*
[02:21] <ubuntu__> but all sleeps
[02:21] <ubuntu__> and its global problen I think
[02:21] <este> hi
[02:21] <ubuntu__> we need fix - old nm-applet
[02:22] <Ben64> i'm telling you, it's working fine here
[02:22] <ubuntu__> or old other packages in dependencies
[02:22] <Ben64> could be your repository having mismatched versions, could be a russian only problem
[02:22] <este> do somebody knows how i change de default application for a protocol(ftp)
[02:22] <ubuntu__> Ben64: can u update and reboot after?
[02:22] <ubuntu__> i use international repos
[02:23] <Ben64> ubuntu__: i assure you it works fine here
[02:23] <ubuntu__> or not...
[02:23] <ubuntu__> u did reboot?
[02:23] <ubuntu__> last few hours
[02:23] <ChrisAnymouse> Jordan_U - thank you for your help, any thoughts?
[02:30] <grkblood> was does ubuntu server use by default for networking?
[02:32] <B0bsF1sh> I have softflowd set up on my router, and netflow on my ubuntu box, and I'm following instructions in http://wvnetflow.sourceforge.net/INSTALL.ubuntu . I think I'm almost there, because at the bottom when it says # check that flows are being received by running ls -lR /dev/shm/ - there is a file /dev/shm/2055 there that has contents that used to be empty before I ran softflowd on my router.  The next step is where it's failing: # check that flow f
[02:33] <Bashing-om> grkblood: Server's main control file is " /etc/network/interfaces " .
[02:33] <grkblood> Bashing-om, does it not have a service name?
[02:34] <grkblood> Im trying to figure out how to turn it off and use network manager instead
[02:42] <ubuntu__> https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjfpZy5wdDKAhUBj3IKHXDNBb0QFggjMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F727219%2Fubuntu-14-04all-current-updates-networking-stopped-working&usg=AFQjCNH8xkCSo7j_01y8-yYrDxdrPLvZcA&sig2=ewdsNaPCLdd6_XnJA8dvIw&bvm=bv.113034660,d.bGQ
[02:42] <Renfried> running ubuntu-mate 15.10. I tried out a usb live version of tails, and since then, I have a 13g partition on sda1 (iso9660) (USB disk removed) and my grub partition(I would assume after a kernel update) is missing the windows recovery partition which is normally sda1, and is renamed sda2, and my windows is now sda3. But in grub now I only have options for Ubuntu and windows, where before I also had the windows recovery partition. can i just unmount and then
[02:42] <Renfried> run sudo update-grub?
[02:43] <homa_> hi my friends
[02:44] <Bashing-om> grkblood: Vinsider .. that manual (server) networking and GUI netwprk-manager are seperate intities. can not have noth at the same time . so for server ' sudo service networking status ' is the way to 'look' ; in the gui ' sudo service network-manager status ' .
[02:46] <ChrisAnymouse> Reading the forums it looks like linux kernel just got support for the HD controller on the new MBA so I'm upgrading the kernel now, suspect it will work
[02:49] <grkblood> Bashing-om, im trying to get openvpn working and im sure its possible with whatever ubuntu server comes with id like to use network-amanger
[02:50] <ChrisAnymouse> ooops, except I need the livecd installer to use kernel 4.4, which it doesn't
[02:52] <arooni_______> how do i get tmux 2.1 on ubuntu 14.04 ?  it exists here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/tmux but not sure how to get it on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> grkblood: Sure it is possible . But I have no experience with network-manager , I run manually from /etc/network/interfaces on a stay at home box .
[03:02] <sergey> i was user ubuntu__
[03:03] <sergey> now it works
[03:03] <sergey> but a GREIT bug!
[03:03] <sergey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/727127/upgrade-made-all-network-manager-and-wireless-disappear-in-ubuntu-this-morning
[03:10] <OerHeks> sergey, what ubuntu version exactly?
[03:13] <OerHeks> as the only version that had an update, was Xenial.
[03:14] <OerHeks> and what do you do with xenial 16.04 alfa bugs ?
[03:14] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/network-manager
[03:14] <OerHeks> sergey ^^
[03:17] <cn_> hello
[03:18] <cn_> anybody?
[03:18] <Bashing-om> !ask | cn_
[03:18] <cn_> what?
[03:19] <cn_> I see.
[03:19] <basil2x> !patience | cn_
[03:19] <juancho> hi
[03:20] <cn_> @juancho , where are you from
[03:20] <Becky_> cn_ I'm from Kentucky.
[03:21] <Becky_> cn_ How can we help you tonight?
[03:21] <cn_> American.  Looks fine in the chat window
[03:26] <wiltors42> http://s22.postimg.org/bccwkybe9/image.jpg
[03:26] <cn_> now , I'm in Beijing.
[03:27] <cn_> wow.
[03:27] <Becky_> wiltors42 Damn, that is crazy font. Maybe it's chinese
[03:27] <cn_> @Becky.
[03:27] <wiltors42> That's what came when I installed xorg
[03:28] <cn_> My system font just little than defaults.
[03:28] <cn_> I used Debian . and my laptop is Alienware 15Xz
[03:29] <cn_> My Desktop Environment is Gnome.
[03:29] <wiltors42> Does anybody know what's the problem here?
[03:29] <sergey> OerHeks: that was 14.04 LTS!
[03:29] <Becky_> wiltors42 Can you go into settings and change the font back to something else?
[03:30] <wiltors42> I didn't change the font
[03:30] <wiltors42> That's how it was the first time I ran it
[03:31] <MannyLNJ> Help needed. I need to know how to disable my firewall so I can test ssh
[03:33] <Bashing-om> wiltors42: Ynity ? Change the language : Ctrl + Space turns ibus on ; Alt+Shift switches input languages . Maybe ??
[03:33] <Becky_> cn_ look at this link. Is that chinese? http://s22.postimg.org/bccwkybe9/image.jpg
[03:33] <wiltors42> Not unity
[03:34] <rww> MannyLNJ: there isn't one enabled by default on Ubuntu. If you used ufw (which tends to be popular), sudo ufw disable
[03:34] <wiltors42> It's not Chinese
[03:34] <wiltors42> It's a corrupt font
[03:35] <wiltors42> Im tempted to reinstall but I don't think that will fix it
[03:35] <wiltors42> It's a brand new minimal install from Ubuntu server cd
[03:38] <Becky_> wiltors42 what made you decide to use xorg?
[03:38] <wiltors42> I really prefer older desktop environments
[03:38] <wiltors42> They run way faster
[03:38] <wiltors42> Truthfully even if I used gnome or unity I would still be running xorg
[03:39] <arooni-mobile> hey everyone; trying to get my ssh working.  i need to have two keys for two different bitbucket accounts... but when i run ssh git@bitbucket-arooni ... authentication fails; even though i have verified that the correct key is in ~/.ssh/
[03:39] <Bashing-om> wiltors42: Try ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ' It would guide you through the steps to choose a font and font-size. the new settings will be effective after reboot. To apply immediately, ' setupcon ' .
[03:39] <Becky_> wiltors42 good luck
[03:40] <wiltors42> Ok thx
[03:40] <ChrisAnymouse> Crazy question - I need kernel 4.4 to support my SSD (macbook air 2015), which is in 16.04. Can I boot off a 16.04 livecd, mount a 15.10 livecd and install from that? I'm not keen to beta test 16.04 right now and I can't build a custom live cd image for 15.10 since my other system is 32 bit.
[03:40] <MannyLNJ-> rww, thank you. Now I know my firewall is not the issue. I have the port fowarded on my router but i can't ssh in
[03:41] <MannyLNJ> Anyone care to help me resolve my ssh issue?
[03:42] <phoney> hello
[03:42] <virgosun> hi everybody hi svetlana
[03:42] <Becky_> MannyLNJ what exactly was your issue?
[03:42] <wiltors42> Unfortunately that only changes the font in the console mode, but not xorg. I was able to change the default font in Xterm, but not global xorg
[03:43] <MannyLNJ> Becky_, I have a few issues but the first one is that I have the port fowarded on my router but I can't SSH in from the outside
[03:43] <wiltors42> I changed the settings in ~/.Xdefaults
[03:43] <EggFile> Any blackbox users? I just found an active fork; https://github.com/bbidulock/blackboxwm this is really amazing to see it coming back to life..
[03:43] <EggFile> Ubuntu should add this fork... :)
[03:45] <virgosun> svetlana i fixed the tftp time out restart issue. Network Manager default bind to <IP_ADDRESS> so commenting out #bindinterfaces in /etc/default//networkmanager did the trick
[03:47] <Bashing-om> wiltors42: Hummm... how about ' dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config ' will present you with a "wizard" on configuring fonts.
[03:47] <virgosun> now i am googling how do they boot diskless win xp from linux. i have a broadcom card may work with ndis driver
[03:47] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: i think it was only a week ago i was having trouble with some kind of malware that grabbed one of my chrome tabs and wouldnt release it, along with a pop up and voice instructing me to call 'microsoft security' to clean the 'virus' on my computer. is there any way to check the logs to see how we solved this? i tried disconnecting my wifi and restarting chrome but it must be in cache because it comes right back up when i
[03:48] <mikubuntu> OerHeks: pretty sure it was you who helped me solve, but i can't for the life of me remember what we did.
[03:49] <wiltors42> Bashing-om: that didn't do anything
[03:49] <MannyLNJ> So I need help. I have port 22 fowarded on my router to <IP_ADDRESS>. I have elevy.noip.me fowarding to my IP. If I try to ssh to elevy.noip.me from my lan the ssh connects but not if I am outside the lan
[03:50] <mikubuntu> this time the address in the bar was viral-ebola .com/etc... and i don't know how i arrived on the link
[03:51] <squinty> mikubuntu,  might want to install bleachbit (similar to ccleaner in Windows)
[03:51] <Bashing-om> wiltors42: Sorry, That was my last thought on it .
[03:52] <mikubuntu> squinty: i used to use bleachbit, then i read that it wasn't a good thing to use. but yes, it cleans specific caches doesn't it
[03:54] <squinty> mikubuntu,  personally I have used it for a number of years now without any problems.  Just take your time to make sure of what box you are ticking for nuking stuff
[03:54] <Becky_> I have heard that you have to watch out for bleach bit messing up your computer if you don't know what you are doing.
[03:55] <mikubuntu> squinty: ok looking for it now
[03:56] <squinty> it's in repos   sudo apt-get install bleachbit.
[03:57] <squinty> notice that it will install a root/admin icon and regular user icon.  as mentioned before take your time ticking the boxes.  :-)
[03:58] <mikubuntu> squinty: i just downloaded and installing the .deb from sourceforge, that's safe isn't it?
[04:00] <mikubuntu> squinty: so i should use the administrative role?
[04:00] <squinty> mikubuntu,  personally i have always grabbed mine from repo's    seems the most logical way imho
[04:01] <squinty> mikubuntu,  no start with regular user    you should see chrome and chromium references.  might just want to concentrate on chrome for now
[04:01] <mikubuntu> squinty: ok i'll close and restart
[04:01] <MannyLNJ-> So I need help. I have port 22 fowarded on my router to <IP_ADDRESS>. I have elevy.noip.me fowarding to my IP. If I try to ssh to elevy.noip.me from my lan the ssh connects but not if I am outside the lan
[04:04] <mikubuntu> squinty: so i guess i want to delete history?
[04:04] <Majora320> hello
[04:06] <squinty> mikubuntu,   yep and suggest cache too
[04:06] <mikubuntu> squinty: okey dokes, thx
[04:07] <SchrodingersScat> MannyLNJ-: odd, pretty sure all you would need is that port
[04:08] <MannyLNJ-> SchrodingersScat, I know but it's not working. care to try it?
[04:08] <aeoril> Is there a good article evangelizing Ubuntu for old laptops I can show to my boss?
[04:10] <Majora320> jorasback
[04:10] <virgosun> aeoril try gnome flavor, very fast
[04:10] <aeoril> I've got a good working Dell that shipped in 2007 (32 bit) that I think might be a great fit for Linux.  Also, I will be refurbishing old donated computers for giving out to people in the community so for for a certain set of computers I am thinking Linux might be better
[04:10] <virgosun> even when run as diskless
[04:11] <SchrodingersScat> MannyLNJ-: naw, I'll take your word for it, and you're the one that needs in anyway.  Some routers don't like trying for the wan while in lan, but you said you were outside of the lan.  Weird because I reverse tunnel 22 alone and it connects fine.
[04:11] <aeoril> I am needing to introduce my boss to Linux thought - I cannot seem to find a good article that tells about it for non-techies in a way that would convince him it could be a good idea
[04:11] <mikubuntu> squinty: that was a lot of sweeping: Disk space recovered: 831.4MB Files deleted: 4669 Special operations: 7 .. lol
[04:11] <SchrodingersScat> MannyLNJ-: so I guess just double check all router settings?  Presumably there's the problem.
[04:12] <aeoril> virgosun what about lubuntu?
[04:12] <SahibPrime> Hello!
[04:12] <MannyLNJ-> SchrodingersScat, And I need SSH to work because the laptop has a broken screen. Once I get SSH working I can work on VPN access
[04:12] <SahibPrime> So, would you mind if I told you my Ubuntu adventure, start to finish?
[04:12] <virgosun> i don't know, i am with linux haft a year, it is open source, stable and lightweight
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> !support | SahibPrime this channel is for ubuntu support, if you have a support question it's more than welcome, if you would like general chatter try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <SahibPrime> Ok.
[04:13] <SahibPrime> One second.
[04:13] <SahibPrime> I'm going to leave out the part where my Windows 10 installation dies
[04:14] <SahibPrime> So, after my OS died
[04:14] <virgosun> aeoril, i run also xfce with debian, may be xubuntu
[04:14] <SahibPrime> I shoved in an Ubuntu 14.10 cd
[04:14] <SahibPrime> Dual-booted it (because WBM was residing, and I didn't want to format the disk)
[04:14] <squinty> mikubuntu,  heh   yes it can pile up that is for sure.  admin will clean out more but take care.  :-)
[04:14] <SahibPrime> installed it, went fine
[04:14] <SahibPrime> installed xfce
[04:14] <SahibPrime> Then I was told 14.10 was EOL
[04:14] <SahibPrime> so I got a 15.10 dvd
[04:14] <SahibPrime> and tried installing from it
[04:14] <SahibPrime> I chose "Erase Ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall"
[04:15] <SahibPrime> It formatted  my partitions
[04:15] <SahibPrime> and then it said
[04:15] <SahibPrime> "Error creating swap space"
[04:15] <SahibPrime> And boom.
[04:15] <mikubuntu> squinty: guess what -- chrome still opened up on all the same last tabs open.
[04:15] <SahibPrime> Formatted partitions, back to square one.
[04:15] <SahibPrime> The only choice left was "Erase disk and install"
[04:15] <aeoril> virgosun what is the benefit of xfce/xubuntu?
[04:15] <SahibPrime> but I am terrified that formatting the disk will cause worse things to happen
[04:16] <SahibPrime> So I took out the DVD, and sure enough, computer had no OS
[04:16] <SahibPrime> I plugged in my Windows 10 USB and ran "bootrec /fixmbr"
[04:16] <SahibPrime> But my computer is UEFI
[04:16] <SahibPrime> so pretty much null happened
[04:16] <SahibPrime> My boot menu still listed ubuntu
[04:16] <SahibPrime> But GRUB simply threw me to the grub rescue> prompt
[04:16] <squinty> mikubuntu,  do you have "remember tabs from last time" as default?  not sure if chrome has that or not.....
[04:16] <SchrodingersScat> Well, to be fair, you told it, "Erase Ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall" right?
[04:17] <virgosun> aeoril, xubuntu in contrary to unity, which is bunch of crapware and slow
[04:17] <SahibPrime> After that, I deleted the Linux partitions, and made 1 ntfs partition (same before install)
[04:17] <SahibPrime> schrodingersscat, yes I did
[04:17] <SahibPrime> But the problem isn't with it formatting
[04:17] <mikubuntu> squinty: yes, but i thought erasing history reset that to '0' ??
[04:17] <SahibPrime> it's with the "Error creating swap space"
[04:17] <virgosun> it work quite good in my asus celeron 1007u, 2g ram
[04:18] <squinty> mikubuntu,  just checking here.... usually use ff  just a sec
[04:18] <SahibPrime> So, currently, my partition scheme is this
[04:19] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda1: winre partition
[04:19] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda2: efi system partition (windows boot manager still there)
[04:19] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda3: ms reserved partition
[04:19] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda4: ~400GB NTFS partition (made after death of ubuntu partitions)
[04:19] <SahibPrime> Strangely
[04:20] <SahibPrime> on the Fedora DVD I'm running this browser on
[04:20] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda5 isn't dispalyed
[04:20] <SahibPrime> *displayed
[04:20] <SahibPrime> But I'm sure it exists
[04:20] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 are also ms partitions
[04:20] <SahibPrime> So, any ideas of how to get Ubuntu back?
[04:20] <virgosun> aeoril lubuntu i have tried but too simple, not many extensions, and maybe no more development
[04:21] <squinty> mikubuntu,  i set, history, session and cache for deletion in chrome/bleachbit and all previous url's were gone on reopening
[04:21] <SahibPrime> any answers?
[04:21] <echokrush> SahibPrime, do you want to reserve the partitions you have or start with a clean install of Ubuntu?
[04:22] <SahibPrime> Keep my current part. scheme
[04:22] <JosuG> SahibPrime, can you update GRUB on /dev/sda?
[04:22] <arooni-mobile> I'm racking my mind trying to see why my ssh config doesnt work (https://gist.github.com/arooni/55731accce5fea4a4eb1) ... if i remove id_rsa / id_rsa.pub from ~/.ssh i can run `ssh bitbucket-arooni` without issues. but the moment i put it back into ~/.ssh ; it *always* defaults to using this key eve if i type `ssh bitbucket-arooni` ... ideas?
[04:22] <SahibPrime> using the ubuntu cd or fedora cd?
[04:22] <squinty> SahibPrime,  not sure of all the ins and outs of your problem, but if you are trying to recover files and / or partitions, might want to give testdisk a try
[04:22] <SahibPrime> Ok, I'll explain it in-depth
[04:23] <SahibPrime> Before, I have installed Ubuntu 14.10 with the installation media.
[04:23] <SahibPrime> Even though Windows 10 is no longer present, Windows Boot Manager is, so I chose to dual-boot it (keep Windows Boot Manager and install Ubuntu alongside it).
[04:23] <JosuG> On theUbuntu live cd the command is "sudo update-grub"
[04:23] <SahibPrime> I allocated ~200GB to both.
[04:23] <squinty> SahibPrime,  i am going for supper pretty shortly so will bow out of the indepth explantion.  :-)
[04:23] <JosuG> Not sure about Fedora.
[04:24] <SahibPrime> Have a nice supper.
[04:24] <mikubuntu> squinty: ok i din't notice session on the list. what does vacuum do? seems like i used to vacuum too with bleachbit, many moons ago.
[04:24] <SahibPrime> So, the install has been finished, no problems.
[04:24] <SahibPrime> Fast forward a month or two.
[04:24] <SahibPrime> I now have 15.10 installation media.
[04:24] <SahibPrime> I boot my computer from it.
[04:24] <squinty> mikubuntu,  not sure off hand to be honest...  might want to check the docs
[04:24] <SahibPrime> It says "Ubuntu 14.10 has been detected. Pick an option."
[04:24] <SahibPrime> So, I picked "Erase Ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall"
[04:25] <SahibPrime> It gives me a box saying "WARNING: Partitions will be changed."
[04:25] <SahibPrime> I clicked Next.
[04:25] <SahibPrime> And then it gives me "Error creating swap space".
[04:25] <SahibPrime> And the installation fails.
[04:25] <SahibPrime> The only option is "Erase disk and install Ubuntu"
[04:25] <SahibPrime> I did not choose it, as I do not want to format the entire disk.
[04:26] <SahibPrime> Afterwards, I deleted my Linux partitions, and merged them into a NTFS partition.
[04:26] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, what happens when you choose something else and create the swap space yourself?
[04:26] <SahibPrime> Hmm, I haven't tried that
[04:26] <mikubuntu> squinty: yes, that def said it was deleting 'last tabs' -- time to check it out
[04:26] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, and then install ubuntu?
[04:26] <SahibPrime> Also, quick question
[04:26] <he1kki> Moro! Ubuntu backups automatically into torrent and into private vps cloud? Is there a common practise for that?
[04:26] <SahibPrime> Since I have a dead grub on my computer
[04:26] <SahibPrime> and Ubuntu install
[04:26] <SahibPrime> will it overwrite the dead grub?
[04:26] <SahibPrime> *installs correctly
[04:27] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, sorry I'm coming to the party late but is your installation on one disk? like /dev/sda?
[04:27] <SahibPrime> Yes
[04:27] <he1kki> SahibPrime: fixed grub yesterday succesfully with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:27] <squinty> mikubuntu, off for supper with the misses.  hope things work out for you.  :-)
[04:28] <mikubuntu> squinty: thx -- my coast is clear
[04:28] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, so you just want to install grub again?
[04:28] <squinty> mikubuntu,  good to hear! :-)
[04:28] <SahibPrime> No, I want to install Ubuntu again
[04:28] <JosuG> SahibPrime, is there an option such as "something else"? That will allow you to manually partition sda.
[04:29] <SahibPrime> I think there was
[04:29] <SahibPrime> One second
[04:29] <virgosun> sahibprime, i encounter strange problem multiple-boot mostly due to esp-efi partition
[04:30] <virgosun> recreate it always solve
[04:30] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, so choose Something else and this will open a parttition editor GParted
[04:30] <stashb0x> you will see the partitions label NTFS, EXT4 etc
[04:31] <SahibPrime> Back
[04:32] <SahibPrime> I've taken the time to write my partitions
[04:32] <SahibPrime> http://hastebin.com/axunedehix.vbs
[04:32] <SahibPrime> Maybe this will help you decide what to do with my disk
[04:32] <JosuG> SahibPrime, just a minute...
[04:32] <SahibPrime> I'll wait,.
[04:32] <virgosun> sometimes partitions are still there in gparted but when update-grub, nested partition error detected
[04:33] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, are you doing this on Fedora?
[04:33] <SahibPrime> Yes, I am running Fedora DVD rn
[04:33] <SahibPrime> I do have Ubuntu install media
[04:34] <JosuG> SahibPrime, you can shrink down sda4 and fit a EXT4 and SWAP partitions in there.
[04:34] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, If you mount the Windows partition it should tell you the partition number such as /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 etc
[04:34] <svetlana> virgosun: ok, congratulations, and thank you
[04:34] <SahibPrime> Yes, it does
[04:35] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda4 is the windows partition (without windows, of course)
[04:35] <SahibPrime> I am thinking of shrinking sda4
[04:35] <virgosun> ok thank you too svetlana
[04:35] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, if you do that then when you try to create the partitions it should show what partitions or not mounted and these are the ones that you want to install Linux on
[04:36] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, the ones that are not mounted
[04:36] <SahibPrime> Yes, I know that
[04:36] <Hardcoreqc33> net.org
[04:36] <SahibPrime> But can't I create my own partitions?
[04:36] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yeah you can create an EXT4 partition by resizing down the NTFS partition.
[04:37] <SahibPrime> what about the bootloader? Will Ubuntu overwrite that with a working bootloader?
[04:37] <Luyin> hello, I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configuring_an_interface description to set up a static IP adress. If I create this file /etc/network/interfaces with the part under "static IP address", will I be able to connect to my ssh server always via the same IP address I choose here?
[04:37] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes it will autodetect windows loaders and add them to the GRUB list.
[04:37] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, Grub will install over Windows bootloader automatically
[04:38] <SahibPrime> I don't mean about detecting WindowsBM
[04:38] <SahibPrime> I mean that
[04:38] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, meaning that you can boot both Linux and Windows
[04:38] <SahibPrime> right now GRUB can't boot into anything (grub rescue)
[04:38] <SahibPrime> If I install Ubuntu
[04:38] <SahibPrime> will GRUB be able to boot systems again?
[04:38] <SahibPrime> stashb0x, I don't have a Windows installation
[04:38] <SahibPrime> Windows Boot Manager is just still present
[04:39] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes, wen you install Ubuntu, it will have the options of booting into Ubuntu or WindowsBM
[04:40] <SahibPrime> Ok
[04:40] <SahibPrime> I'm now going to switch to Ubuntu install media
[04:40] <SahibPrime> I will see you again when I boot into it
[04:40] <SahibPrime> Thank you for your help :)
[04:40] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, I found this on askubuntu : https://askubuntu.com/questions/654386/windows-10-upgrade-lead-into-grub-rescue
[04:40] <JosuG> SahibPrime, no problem, I love to help!
[04:40] <SahibPrime> I'll read that
[04:40] <SahibPrime> Anyways, see you in a few minutes
[04:51] <SahibPrime> I'm back :)
[04:51] <echokrush> SahibPrime, how did it go?
[04:51] <chrono> ne
[04:51] <chrono> pix
[04:51] <SahibPrime> I didn't try it yet, I've just booted into the CD
[04:52] <SahibPrime> I'm launching the installer nwo
[04:52] <SahibPrime> *now
[04:52] <SahibPrime> When I booted it in the boot menu it said
[04:52] <arooni-mobile> how can i stop my ssh agent from always offering my ~/.ssh/id_rsa key even when in my ssh config i specify for a given hostname; to use a different ssh key ?  https://gist.github.com/arooni/55731accce5fea4a4eb1  ?
[04:52] <SahibPrime> "The boot device failed."
[04:52] <SahibPrime> Tried again, worked.
[04:53] <SahibPrime> I can assume it's because I switched out DVDs
[04:53] <JosuG> SahibPrime, so the process is: Installer > Something Else > Shrink sda4 by a few GB, enough to fit an Ubuntu installation.
[04:53] <SahibPrime> Yup
[04:53] <SahibPrime> and create swap space
[04:54] <SahibPrime> K
[04:54] <SahibPrime> I'm to the Someting Else screen
[04:54] <SahibPrime> Device for boot loader installation: /dev/sda
[04:54] <SahibPrime> yup that seems right
[04:54] <JosuG> SahibPrime, Yes. EXT4, SWAP. Make sure to set the mount point for the new EXT4 to " / "
[04:54] <SahibPrime> so, how do I do what you said?
[04:55] <SahibPrime> So I'm going to shrink the partition by a few gigs
[04:55] <SahibPrime> I'll say 30
[04:55] <SahibPrime> Size: 476908
[04:55] <SahibPrime> Use as: do not use the partition
[04:55] <SahibPrime> what do I do here?
[04:55] <JosuG> SahibPrime, set as EXT4
[04:56] <SahibPrime> the entire ntfs partition?
[04:56] <SahibPrime> Because right now I'm editing /dev/sda4
[04:56] <JosuG> SahibPrime, no, shrink it by 30 GB
[04:57] <SahibPrime> Use as: do not use the partition?
[04:57] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, shrink it first and then format it as ext4
[04:57] <SahibPrime> Ok
[04:57] <SahibPrime> so
[04:57] <SahibPrime> then format as ext4
[04:57] <cn_> just do It
[04:57] <SahibPrime>  after shrinking
[04:57] <stashb0x> SahibPrime, the unused/blank partition
[04:57] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda4?
[04:58] <SahibPrime> So shrink by 30 GB, then format as ext4
[04:58] <SahibPrime> Ok, what's 476908 MB - 30 GB?
[04:58] <JosuG> SahibPrime, no, shrink it and "do not use"
[04:58] <SahibPrime> Ok
[04:58] <SahibPrime> Yes, I know
[04:58] <SahibPrime> So
[04:58] <SahibPrime> If I remember correctly
[04:58] <SahibPrime> 1. Shrink /dev/sda4 by 30 GB
[04:58] <SahibPrime> 2. Create a new ext4 partition
[04:59] <SahibPrime> 3. Set mount point as /
[04:59] <SahibPrime> 4. Create swap partition
[04:59] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes. Swap does not have to be big, only about 4 GB
[04:59] <SahibPrime> Ok.
[04:59] <SahibPrime> But
[04:59] <SahibPrime> What is 476908 MB - 30 GB?
[05:01] <JosuG> SahibPrime, 476908 MB is about 465 GB
[05:01] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:01] <SahibPrime> so
[05:01] <SahibPrime> 435 GB
[05:01] <SahibPrime> 435 * 1024
[05:01] <JosuG> SahibPrime, Yes.
[05:01] <SahibPrime> 445440
[05:01] <SahibPrime> Do not use partition, right?
[05:02] <JosuG> SahibPrime, no, do not use sda4.
[05:02] <SahibPrime> ok
[05:02] <SahibPrime> "Before you can select new size, previous changes written to disk"
[05:02] <SahibPrime> "cannot undo"
[05:02] <SahibPrime> "take a long time"
[05:02] <SahibPrime> How long will it take?
[05:03] <SahibPrime> Should I just press Continue?
[05:03] <JosuG> SahibPrime, in my experience, shrinking partitions can take up to about 5 minutes.
[05:03] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:03] <SahibPrime> I'm hitting Continue
[05:03] <SahibPrime> (please don't crash, installer)
[05:03] <SahibPrime> ok
[05:04] <SahibPrime> i see no progress bar
[05:04] <SahibPrime> do i just wait for it?
[05:04] <absk007> my display settings is not opening after I removed pulseaudio http://i.imgur.com/REoSjwE.png
[05:04] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes. It has to basically juggle files around to make room.
[05:04] <SahibPrime> How do I know it's finished
[05:04] <SahibPrime> Because GParted just said
[05:04] <SahibPrime> "/de/sda4, 445440 MB"
[05:05] <SahibPrime> I guess it's because my harddrive has 3 files
[05:05] <SahibPrime> is it done?
[05:05] <JosuG> SahibPrime, the new partition table should show empty space when it's done.
[05:05] <SahibPrime> Yup
[05:05] <SahibPrime> Free space: 31468 MB
[05:05] <SahibPrime> Now, my ext4 partition
[05:05] <SahibPrime> Is 25 GB reasonable?
[05:06] <JosuG> SahibPrime, Yes.
[05:06] <SahibPrime> "Type for the new partition:
[05:06] <SahibPrime> Primary or Logical?"
[05:07] <JosuG> SahibPrime, how big did you size the partition? Is it using the whole space?
[05:07] <SahibPrime> 25600 MB
[05:07] <SahibPrime> out of the ~31000 MB
[05:07] <SahibPrime> I'm going with Primary
[05:07] <SahibPrime> is that correct?
[05:07] <JosuG> SahibPrime, primary.
[05:07] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:08] <SahibPrime> "location for new partition:
[05:08] <SahibPrime> beginning of space
[05:08] <SahibPrime> end of space"
[05:08] <JosuG> SahibPrime, beginning, but it doesn't really matter.
[05:08] <SahibPrime> Use as: ext4 journaling file system
[05:08] <SahibPrime> Correct?
[05:08] <JosuG> SahibPrime, correct.
[05:08] <SahibPrime> Mount point:
[05:09] <SahibPrime> I mean
[05:09] <SahibPrime>  /
[05:09] <SahibPrime> correct?
[05:09] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes foreward slash.
[05:09] <SahibPrime> partition made
[05:09] <SahibPrime> no wait
[05:09] <SahibPrime> ok
[05:09] <SahibPrime> now
[05:09] <SahibPrime> partition made
[05:09] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda5
[05:09] <SahibPrime> time for swap
[05:10] <JosuG> SahibPrime, good. Just use the rest of the space as swap, primary partition.
[05:11] <SahibPrime> k
[05:11] <SahibPrime> im back
[05:11] <SahibPrime> channel glitches
[05:11] <SahibPrime> so, use rest of the space as swap?
[05:11] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes, as primary partition.
[05:11] <SahibPrime> There are 3 free spaces
[05:12] <SahibPrime> Free space: 0 MB
[05:12] <SahibPrime> Freespace: 5867 MB
[05:12] <SahibPrime> Free space: 5 MB
[05:12] <SahibPrime> which one do i use?
[05:12] <JosuG> SahibPrime, 5867 MB.
[05:13] <SahibPrime> Use as: swap area
[05:13] <SahibPrime> Primary, Beginning of this space
[05:14] <SahibPrime> is that right?
[05:14] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes.
[05:15] <SahibPrime> and
[05:15] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda8 swap
[05:15] <SahibPrime> so
[05:15] <SahibPrime> new partition
[05:15] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda1 winre
[05:15] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda2 efi
[05:16] <JosuG> SahibPrime, you should now have an EXT4 partition of around 25GB, and swap space of about 5 GB
[05:16] <JosuG> SahibPrime, is that right?
[05:16] <SahibPrime> e
[05:16] <SahibPrime> oh
[05:16] <SahibPrime> drone muted me
[05:16] <SahibPrime> i think
[05:17] <Gallomimia> ummm. having trouble configuring a network from a shell-only situation. can anyone give me a tip? right now i have no routes, and it won't check for dhcp even
[05:17] <SahibPrime> Hang tight, I'm typing my new partition system
[05:18] <JosuG> SahibPrime, you should now have an EXT4 partition of around 25GB, and swap space of about 5 GB
[05:18] <SahibPrime> http://hastebin.com/doqeditili.avrasm
[05:18] <SahibPrime> yup
[05:18] <SahibPrime> Device for boot loader installation: /dev/sda
[05:18] <JosuG> SahibPrime, hold on...
[05:18] <SahibPrime> k
[05:20] <JosuG> SahibPrime, what is /dev/sda3?
[05:20] <SahibPrime> microsoft reserved
[05:20] <JosuG> SahibPrime, ok.
[05:20] <SahibPrime>  /dev/sda1, /dev/sda3, /dev/sda6, and /dev/sda7
[05:20] <SahibPrime> are all microsoft partitions
[05:20] <JosuG> SahibPrime, looks good to go.
[05:20] <SahibPrime> So now I just hit install now?
[05:20] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes.
[05:21] <SahibPrime> No swap space error! :D
[05:21] <SahibPrime> Thank you so much!
[05:21] <JosuG> SahibPrime, I'm really glad to help!
[05:22] <SahibPrime> My computer will have an OS nwo
[05:22] <SahibPrime> *now
[05:22] <SahibPrime> I am so happy
[05:22] <SahibPrime> One question
[05:22] <SahibPrime> Windows install takes me 1-2 hours
[05:22] <SahibPrime> Linux takes me 30 minutes-1 hour
[05:22] <SahibPrime> why is that?
[05:23] <Gallomimia> one is better :P
[05:23] <SahibPrime> it gave me a console log
[05:23] <SahibPrime> on copying files.
[05:23] <Koyaanis> lool
[05:23] <Koyaanis> win 10 took me 10 min
[05:23] <JosuG> SahibPrime, no idea... might be all the crapware in windows.
[05:23] <SahibPrime> it's about
[05:23] <SahibPrime> GLIB.source_remove()
[05:23] <SahibPrime>  /usr/lib/ubuiquity
[05:23] <SahibPrime> it's still going
[05:23] <SahibPrime> i'll ignore it
[05:24] <SahibPrime> When the install is finished
[05:24] <Gallomimia> how can i tell my network interface to look for a dhcp lease?
[05:24] <SahibPrime> I'll log in on my new Ubuntu system! :D
[05:24] <nedstark> SahibPrime, it's simple time dilation, Linux moves faster and goes forward in time in relation to Windows
[05:24] <SahibPrime> I'm wondering why the "Swap space" error happened in the first place?
[05:25] <JosuG> SahibPrime, not sure. I think it's because the installer didn't know where to put it?
[05:25] <SahibPrime> I think it's because of my free space
[05:25] <JosuG> SahibPrime, but that's just a wild guess.
[05:26] <SahibPrime> Well
[05:26] <SahibPrime> I think
[05:26] <SahibPrime> it tried to make a new swap partition
[05:26] <SahibPrime> but I had not enough free space allocated
[05:28] <SahibPrime> sorry
[05:28] <SahibPrime> firefox is lagging
[05:28] <SahibPrime> i mean unresponsive
[05:28] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:28] <SahibPrime> So
[05:29] <SahibPrime> what if you forget your ubuntu system password?
[05:29] <JosuG> SahibPrime, either write it down or reinstall
[05:29] <SahibPrime> ok
[05:29] <SahibPrime> So for reinstall
[05:29] <SahibPrime> I can just
[05:29] <SahibPrime> delete linux partitions
[05:29] <SahibPrime> turn into ntfs
[05:29] <EriC^^> you can use the recovery to get it back
[05:29] <EriC^^> !recovery
[05:29] <SahibPrime> of
[05:30] <SahibPrime> recovery mode
[05:30] <SahibPrime> hmmm
[05:30] <SahibPrime> intriguing
[05:30] <SahibPrime> It's copied the files
[05:30] <SahibPrime> It's now retrieving some files
[05:31] <JosuG> SahibPrime, Oh, i just remembered: if you boot into windows it *might* delete GRUB.
[05:31] <SahibPrime> Are any of you excited for 16.04
[05:31] <SahibPrime> what, why?
[05:31] <SahibPrime> what will happen if grub is deleted?
[05:32] <SahibPrime> Do you mean boot into the entirety of Windows
[05:32] <SahibPrime> Or simply Windows Boot Manager
[05:32] <JosuG> SahibPrime, you can probably use an Ubuntu live disk and reset GRUB from there.
[05:33] <SahibPrime> how?
[05:33] <SahibPrime> Also
[05:33] <SahibPrime> since there is one ext4 partition
[05:33] <SahibPrime> will /home be stored on the same partition?
[05:34] <SahibPrime> Still retrieving files
[05:34] <SahibPrime> Now it's doing your standard configuration
[05:34] <SahibPrime> Ubuntu IRC > Windows Support
[05:35] <JosuG> SahibPrime, if you run the command "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" it will install GRUB and also detect windows to boot into.
[05:35] <SahibPrime> ah
[05:35] <SahibPrime> I've played with Arch
[05:35] <SahibPrime> can't I do
[05:35] <SahibPrime> grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck /dev/sda
[05:36] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes.
[05:36] <JosuG> SahibPrime, and yes, /home will be on the same partition.
[05:36] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:36] <SahibPrime> Could I have made a seperate partition
[05:36] <SahibPrime> by shrinking ntfs further?
[05:37] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes, but it doesn't make any difference.
[05:37] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:37] <SahibPrime> Just out of curiosity
[05:37] <SahibPrime> what is the installers' default partition scheme
[05:39] <JosuG> SahibPrime, when running on UEFI, there will be a small (about 512 MB) EFI boot partition, a swap space at the end, and EXT4 in between.
[05:39] <SahibPrime> Ok.
[05:39] <SahibPrime> What if the EFI partition already exists?
[05:40] <SahibPrime> It's installing the kernel now
[05:40] <JosuG> SahibPrime, if you choose to erase everything, it will reformat it.
[05:40] <SahibPrime> Ok.
[05:40] <SahibPrime> What are the differences between 14.10 and 15.10?
[05:42] <SahibPrime> It's configuring hardware now
[05:42] <JosuG> SahibPrime, i think 15.10 just has newer versions of everything. 15.10 has the 4.0 series of kernel.
[05:42] <SahibPrime> 0 errors
[05:42] <SahibPrime> Does 15.10 have LibreOffice 5?
[05:42] <JosuG> SahibPrime, yes, it does.
[05:43] <SahibPrime> Running the post-installation triggers
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> SahibPrime: 14.10 is also end of life now
[05:43] <SahibPrime> And now installing grub
[05:43] <JosuG> SahibPrime, i'm really excited for Kubuntu 16.04 because it will be the first long term release with KDE Plasma 5.
[05:44] <SahibPrime> ikr
[05:44] <SahibPrime> Plasma 5 is great
[05:44] <SahibPrime> The only problem I have is when you have no profile picture
[05:44] <SahibPrime> The blank picture looks weird ot me
[05:44] <SahibPrime> *to
[05:45] <JosuG> SahibPrime, I read that Apple got the idea for OSX Yosemite from KDE.
[05:45] <SahibPrime> ...
[05:45] <SahibPrime> *stares at ipad*
[05:45] <SahibPrime> *smacks it*'
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> guys keep it support related
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[05:45] <SahibPrime> Ok
[05:45] <SahibPrime> I'm going to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:45] <SahibPrime> I'll see you if anything bad happens
[05:45] <SahibPrime> Thank you for your help! :)
[05:51] <the_count> Hello, anyone here know how to run the Unity Greeter on the  Unity Desktip itself? I like how it is implemented on the  logon screen and want it on my desktop as well If I could
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> the_count: you want a logon screen on your desktop?
[05:53] <the_count> lotuspsychje: No, Just the overlay that the Unity Greeter adds to the background on the logon screen
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> the_count: im not sure i understand why you need this for?
[05:54] <Guest23672> hello
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> the_count: you can logout on the right above top button where you shutdown right
[05:54] <the_count> lotuspsychje: I don't need it
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> the_count: explain what you do need...
[05:57] <Eleven> hello
[05:57] <the_count> lotuspsychje: I think maybe you are misunderstanding me, on the logon/lock screen, There is an overlay added to the desktop background, consisting of the grid of dots and the ubuntu logo on the bottom left hand corner. I am talking about keeping that overlay after the user logs in instead of it fading out
[05:57] <homa_> hi my friends
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> the_count: then add an overlay background with dots wallpaper to your users?
[05:59] <the_count> lotuspsychje: I didn't know if it was possible to keep that application running that manager that overlay
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> the_count: thats the way users work right, you logon to your own desktop and bypass the greeter into your desktop
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> the_count: the greeter is just a GUI for login into your specific /home/user
[06:01] <the_count> lotuspsychje: and bypass the greeter into your desktop?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> the_count: yes, you cant bring along the greeter to the desktop right, its only a background right...
[06:02] <the_count> lotuspsychje: Ok, I see
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> the_count: if its a 'smooth feeling' of background keeping you need, change the wallpaper of the user to something lookalike
[06:03] <the_count> lotuspsychje: Ok will do, Thanks
[06:21] <svetlana> homa_: hello! can I help you?
[06:21] <homa_> hi svetlana
[06:22] <svetlana> homa_: welcome to the official Ubuntu support channel; if you have any feedback or questions, please, just ask
[06:23] <rohit_> ji
[06:32] <barnito> got linux setup on a first gen i5 to be a znc/torrent downloader
[06:32] <allstarsnorks2> Hi there. I am currently installing the Pantheon DE on Ubuntu 14.04. After installing Pantheon, I don't see an entry for the DE in the login screen. What gives?
[06:34] <rmx77> would anyone be able to help with flash
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: explain whats going on please
[06:55] <rmx77> well i have been trying to get flash to work or find flash plugins that will work with all sites
[06:56] <rmx77> i use sites like tinychat, ustream, livestream, vaughnlive etc... and those sites use flash and without flash the sites wont work
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: flash for firefox is pretty dead mate, use chromium-browser instead
[06:57] <baizon> rmx77: well they work, you can use livestreamer or youtube-dl and then watch them with your video player. Thats what i do until they switch to html5
[06:58] <rmx77> well i tried to install chrome and sudo apt-get install chrome and even chromium and it doesnt even find either
[06:59] <baizon> !info chromium-browser | rmx77
[06:59] <rmx77> yea
[06:59] <xangua> rmx77: if you want Google chrome, download it from its site
[07:00] <baizon> xangua: chromium > chrome :P
[07:00] <allstarsnorks2> Is there a way to remove the Nemo file manager without removing Cinnamon completely?
[07:00] <rmx77> the thing is that they dont have a version of chrome for the arm a7 cortex quad core
[07:00] <baizon> allstarsnorks2: no, because it depends on cinnamon, also this isnt the proper question for this channel
[07:01] <DriveBro> Can I turn off unity in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <xangua> DriveBro: install another desktop
[07:01] <baizon> DriveBro: no, you have to switch to an derivate
[07:02] <DriveBro> Got it, thanks!
[07:11] <rmx77> hmmm
[07:11] <rmx77> it looks like some repos in ubuntu mate are missing cause some programs i go to install it says arent there
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: did you add ppa's yourself?
[07:13] <rmx77> all i used was the software and updates to try to see what ppa's are there but didnt see anything else other then a few ppa's that were copies
[07:13] <rmx77> i did sudo apt-get update and it updated but it didnt put in any other repos or anything
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: pastebin the errors you get after sudo apt-get update please
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: or sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:15] <rmx77> Package chromium is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:15] <rmx77> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:15] <rmx77> is only available from another source
[07:15] <rmx77> However the following packages replace it:
[07:15] <rmx77>   chromium-bsu
[07:15] <rmx77> E: Package 'chromium' has no installation candidate
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:15] <xangua> ! Paste | rmx77
[07:16] <rmx77> that doesnt work i get errors there too
[07:17] <rmx77> i get e: package 'chromium has no installation canadidate
[07:17] <rmx77> and i get E: unable to locate package browser
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:17] <rmx77> thats what i did
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: forgot the - ?
[07:18] <rmx77> no
[07:18] <rmx77> i have a few lines of text that go along with that as well
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: pastebin us the full output, please use a paste site
[07:19] <rmx77> well what command or where would i paste it or how
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: the full output, after sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:20] <baizon> rmx77: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[07:22] <rmx77> well i tried pastebin after the sudo apt-get install chromium-browser and i get E: unable to locate package pastebin
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: pastebin is a website
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !paste | rmx77 read it first please
[07:22] <rmx77> oh
[07:23] <rmx77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14729157/
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: your forgot the -
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: its chromium-browser
[07:25] <sgo11> lotuspsychje, hi, do you still remember my cache? You tried to help me yesterday. My problem is solved now by removing "~/.cache and ~/.config".
[07:25] <rmx77> ok and then to get pepperflash to work
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> rmx77: pepperflash is already built-in
[07:26] <xangua> lotuspsychje: in chromium?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> !yay | sgo11 tnx for feedback +1 to remember
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> xangua: in chromium-browser
[07:27] <xangua> lotuspsychje: are you sure? Last I remember pepper flash downloaded and extracted Google chrome flash because proprietary
[07:27] <sgo11> s/cache/case/. typo......
[07:28] <rmx77> the last time i had used or tried to use chromium there was no flash anywhere in it and i tried to run pepperflash as an installed plugin and it said couldn't load plugin
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> xangua: i think chromium and webbrowser-app use pêpper by default yes
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> xangua: not sure bout chrome
[07:29] <xangua> rmx77: you said you were on ARM, right?
[07:29] <rmx77> oh yes
[07:29] <xangua> rmx77: then you probably won't be able to use flash
[07:29] <rmx77> an arm a7 cortex 900mhz quad core
[07:30] <rmx77> its a raspberry pi2 model b
[07:31] <xangua> In another news, Adobe announced flash dead two years from now, I'd just kill it and stop it's suffering
[07:32] <rmx77> i wish that would be true
[07:32] <baizon> rmx77: that is a fact
[07:33] <rmx77> well chromium says on sites the adobe flash player is required
[07:34] <barnito> I got a pine64
[07:34] <barnito> much better
[07:34] <rmx77> i would need to figure out pepperflash
[07:34] <Gallomimia> what command can i use to determine a partition's fs type?
[07:35] <xangua> rmx77: if you want flash so desperately consider switching to at least a 32 bit machine
[07:35] <barnito> um. does chromium still do flash? I know chrome doesn't
[07:35] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: blkid
[07:35] <baizon> Gallomimia: sudo fdisk -l
[07:36] <Gallomimia> blkid much better thnks!
[07:36] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:36] <rmx77> chrome does
[07:37] <rmx77> but chromium doesnt have it installed by default just an html player
[07:38] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: blkid shows that my sec_type=ext2 and type=ext3, even after i erased the partition and reformated as ext3. what gives?
[07:39] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i'm still struggling with the complicated chroot and grub-intall for which you gave me advice several days ago. no luck so far
[07:39] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: it means it's ext3
[07:39] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: what are you trying to do?
[07:39] <Gallomimia> make it work ><
[07:40] <Gallomimia> my /boot drive has no functional grub. it just shows a blinking cursor if i try to boot from it
[07:40] <EriC^^> you're installing ubuntu?
[07:41] <Gallomimia> i've run an install several times. without --force it gives error that embedding is not supported on ext2, hence my confusion
[07:41] <Gallomimia> no. ubuntu is installed. i want grub so it will load ubuntu at boot time
[07:41] <EriC^^> oh, you're trying to install grub to a partition, it should be installed to the disk
[07:41] <Gallomimia> well phat chance of that: it's encrypted, on a raid, and under LVM
[07:41] <EriC^^> that's not a problem
[07:42] <EriC^^> is /boot also encrypted?
[07:42] <Gallomimia> install to the disk, not the partition
[07:42] <Gallomimia> no, /boot is a slice outside of all that mess
[07:42] <EriC^^> ok, just run grub-install /dev/sdX
[07:42] <EriC^^> with everything mounted and in a chroot
[07:43] <Gallomimia> shhh its thinking
[07:43] <stefg> Hi, obviuosly the last batch of updates broke network-manager on 2 of my 14.04.-Laptops runing the lts-backport-wily kernel. Anybody else with the same problem in here?
[07:44] <Gallomimia> still greeted with the blinking cursor.
[07:44] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i remember you telling me to put a uuid in fstab or something
[07:45] <EriC^^> ok, boot the live usb and paste sudo parted -l
[07:49] <Gallomimia> well that's a screen of crap
[07:49] <Gallomimia> oh. paste? yeah that won't happen
[07:49] <EriC^^> why not
[07:49] <Gallomimia> getting it to run a network and a gui at the same time is enough of a challenge
[07:50] <EriC^^> do you have internet connection right now?
[07:50] <Gallomimia> i haven't got the live desktop version handy. been using server
[07:50] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:50] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link to it pasted
[07:50] <Gallomimia> so far, running parted -l asks me a question
[07:51]  * Gallomimia unplugs that disk
[07:52] <Gallomimia> heh. nc: getaddrinfo: Name or serice not known
[07:52] <Gallomimia> network works, dns does not.
[07:53] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[07:53] <Gallomimia> hah thanks
[07:53] <EriC^^> type alias paste='nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9999'
[07:54] <evanvarvell> is there possibly an exploit in yelp
[07:55] <xangua> rmx77: if you have a support question, tell the channel
[07:58] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: decrypt the "/" partition
[07:58] <Gallomimia> i did. it's chrooted auto by the installer
[07:59] <Gallomimia> in fact it's decrypted now. that command didn't finish because it stopped to ask a question
[07:59] <EriC^^> ok
[07:59] <Gallomimia> and i got no way to pipe it into less after it gets answered :/
[07:59] <Gallomimia> there's a LOT of stuff after it.
[07:59] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/fstab | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[07:59] <Gallomimia> that file is empty.
[08:00] <Gallomimia> or, it just has plain / with the uuid of the installer disk
[08:00] <EriC^^> type ls -ld /boot/efi
[08:01] <EriC^^> i'm trying to establish if it's installed in uefi mode or not, cause you have a bios_boot
[08:01] <EriC^^> and efi partition
[08:01] <Gallomimia> no such file or directory. the normal boot and efi drives weren't mounted
[08:01] <Gallomimia> and it should be yes.
[08:01] <Gallomimia> uh. there we go
[08:02] <Gallomimia> eric died :(
[08:11] <alex__> hi
[08:11] <alex__> good moning
[08:13] <alex__> does ubuntu have already installed rtl8187 driver wifi card ?
[08:13] <alex__> or should i install it anyway?
[08:13] <longwuyuan> hi, postgresql version I see default is 9.3 but i want 9.4
[08:20] <xangua> ! Latest | longwuyuan
[08:21] <longwuyuan> ubottu: 9.5 is latest not 9.4
[08:22] <otterfist> complete linux noob; question- I'm running xubuntu on a virtualbox vm. my GRUB files are fucked/nonexistent, will this impact booting up my VM in the future?
[08:24] <stefg> Public warning for 14.04 users: Updating from trusty-proposed at the time will break your network. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnl3/+bug/1539513
[08:24] <otterfist> nvm seems like I'm good. enjoy your day
[08:30] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: alright i had the system working long long ago. then a lot of stuff went afoul. i eventually nuked the /boot drive and made a new logical partition for root, which has working install on it.... i hope
[08:30] <Gallomimia> now i'm just trying to get the whole works to boot again.
[08:31] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: i dont follow, you nuked /boot and then created a new root partition
[08:31] <EriC^^> then what? you copied over your old install there?
[08:32] <Gallomimia> uh... let's see. i think it's actually a working install from a USB drive. perhaps it would be better to install it again
[08:33] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: so the install isn't encrypted
[08:33] <EriC^^> and you copied it over to an encrypted root?
[08:33] <jair_> hoi
[08:34] <EriC^^> hi
[08:34] <Gallomimia> in the time i've had this system working, i've done a few things to it that really messed it up. one such thing was to get a new monitor and hook it up on the display port where the first was on DVI. configs went awry, and grub wouldn't display. i had to type crypto passwords with no screen
[08:34] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: yes it's always been encrypted
[08:34] <jair_> witch language did u speak in normal life?
[08:34] <Gallomimia> the one where you spell it  "which"
[08:35] <jair_> oops...
[08:35] <Gallomimia> :) common mistake
[08:35] <Gallomimia> do you speak other languages? there's support channels in different languages.
[08:35] <jair_> sorry, iḿ dutch and my english is terrible!
[08:36] <Gallomimia> oh! is there a dutch channel?
[08:36] <EriC^^> yeah #ubuntu-de
[08:36] <Gallomimia> isn't that german?
[08:36] <jair_> i don know
[08:37] <EriC^^> !holland
[08:37] <EriC^^> !dutch
[08:37] <jair_> im so bad in english!!!(this is NOT a joke)
[08:37] <Gallomimia> aha!
[08:37] <Gallomimia> you're doing alright so far
[08:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:37] <Gallomimia> i've met plenty worse in english than you, and communicated with them fine
[08:38] <jair_> oke??? IK KAN OOK ENGELS(terrible keyboard
[08:38] <jair_> he has forgotten the )
[08:38] <k1l_> jair_:"/j #ubuntu-nl"
[08:39] <jair_> ok iḿ joining the dutch channel
[08:39] <jair_> bye
[08:40] <jair__> ****... cant find it
[08:41] <jair__> i going to try making my own dutch server(olé)(HH)
[08:41] <jair__> bye
[08:42] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: i'll brb
[08:46] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: seems the installer wants to do a whole bunch of stuff. a reinstall even. sure whatever
[08:47] <EriC^^> that sucks
[08:48] <Gallomimia> meh. i had just finished copying my home dir off that partition
[08:48] <Gallomimia> nothing else i care about much on there
[08:50] <test123> Hey folks
[08:50] <Gallomimia> hi
[08:51] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, so you're reinstalling?
[08:51] <Gallomimia> 97% cleaning up
[08:52] <Gallomimia> not sure i did that on purpose, but the installer isn't very stateful when you abort menus
[08:53] <Gallomimia> grub-install /dev/sda ailed. this is a fatal error.
[08:53] <Gallomimia> gawd i love that screen. it's so.... informative.
[08:53] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, boot the live usb
[08:54] <Gallomimia> ls
[08:55] <jair_> ok? someone online
[09:00] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: what would you have me do on the LiveUSB? i'm not sure i have one handy and i'm thinking of going to bed soon :/
[09:01] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, nevermind
[09:01] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: pretty sure the first time i got this setup running it was after the server installer failed to put grub, i fiddled with the desktop installer for a long while and somehow got it working
[09:02] <Gallomimia> can't remember. i'll get that thing to flash in a sec
[09:05] <Kabi> Why ubundu 10 mouse stucks
[09:05] <Gallomimia> did someone seriously take a thumbdrive off my desk??! whose fingers do i need to amputate to make an example?
[09:07] <Kabi> How solve ubundu  mouse problem of v 10
[09:08] <Gallomimia> kabi perhaps you're using a very very old version of ubuntu? 10 was 6 years ago
[09:09] <Kabi> Ok
[09:12] <Gallomimia> are you sure that's what version it is?
[09:13] <Kabi> Yes
[09:13] <Gallomimia> 10.04 or 10.10?
[09:15] <Kabi> 10.10
[09:15] <Gallomimia> you certainly need to update that
[09:15] <Gallomimia> i'm not even sure if the updater will work on a system that old. clean install is better imo
[09:17] <Kabi> IS tHAt FREEEEE CD StOPED
[09:19] <Gallomimia> perhaps you're not a native english speaker? you could find a support channel in your language and have an easier time
[09:19] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i still have a terminal open that shows me flashing ubuntu desktop to yet another flash drive. wish i could find it!
[09:20] <Gallomimia> aha there it is!
[09:25] <m3n3chm0> hello, i'm getting this error trying to install Eclipse. I'm using openjdk7 --> http://imgur.com/FDmogH8  and http://imgur.com/FDmogH8  ... any clue guys ¿?
[09:25] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: liveCD booted. installing mdadm
[09:25] <EriC^^> ok
[09:25] <msev-> any ideas why espeak suddenly stopped speaking for me, and doesn't want to
[09:32] <BinBasher> I know I'm running debian, but this is a linux problem in general (Xorg) and nobody seems to know the solution in other channels, I'm having trouble with this error (nv) http://pastebin.com/MNZqPBHj
[09:33] <cfhowlett> BinBasher, we do not mess with debian at all here. ask #debian
[09:34] <cfhowlett> !debian | BinBasher
[09:35] <svetlana> BinBasher: is it a graphics problem ? there is #NOUVEAU
[09:36] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: liveCD booted, raid assembled, crypto opened
[09:36] <Gallomimia> what would you have me do now that i have a GUI?
[09:37] <EriC^^> ok, so this is the last install you did from the installer that said failed to install grub?
[09:37] <BinBasher> svetlana: it seems to be a problem in a few OSes (gentoo, arch, debian, ubuntu,..) I'll try #NOUVEAU
[09:37] <prime_suspect> Hey guys
[09:37] <Gallomimia> huh what?
[09:37] <Gallomimia> uh.... an installer ran, on an already installed system. it even says that might give unfavorable results
[09:38] <Gallomimia> but yeah, i have that install handy.
[09:38] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: what's the background of the current install
[09:39] <EriC^^> you said you tried to reinstall, and the installer failed on grub and said fatal error
[09:39] <EriC^^> ?
[09:39] <Gallomimia> yep
[09:39] <Gallomimia> grub always fails on this system
[09:39] <Gallomimia> every single kernel update. grub-probe dumps core
[09:39] <EriC^^> ok so it's a fresh install by the installer? nothing has been copied from another system etc?
[09:39] <Gallomimia> who knows
[09:40] <EriC^^> if it failed on grub then usually that's the last step of the install
[09:40] <Gallomimia> yes but it wasn't a blank partition when it started installing
[09:40] <EriC^^> so it did install and fail and stuff
[09:40] <Gallomimia> yes
[09:41] <EriC^^> ok, type mount the "/" partition at /mnt
[09:41] <EriC^^> and then type
[09:41] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:43] <Gallomimia> k
[09:43] <Gallomimia> i assume i should also mount the /home LV ?
[09:43] <Gallomimia> eh. maybe its not needed. the username won't match anyway
[09:44] <Gallomimia> mou.. argh too many keyboards!
[09:45] <Gallomimia> so far so good
[09:46] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:46] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: i want to see if there's a separate /boot
[09:46] <Gallomimia> sudo parted -l -s
[09:47] <Gallomimia> lovely. it just said "use netcat"
[09:47] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: np use curl
[09:47] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[09:49] <Gallomimia> not too sure if theres a lot of details in there i'd rather not spread around, but i PM'd it
[09:50] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, there's a 249MB partition in /dev/sda
[09:50] <Gallomimia> for boot
[09:50] <EriC^^> is it ok to paste the link here? others might know something
[09:50] <Gallomimia> eh.it's not full of serial numbers like i thought
[09:50] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: that partition has the bios_boot flag which isn't needed
[09:50] <Gallomimia> go ahead
[09:50] <EriC^^> http://sprunge.us/HIOb
[09:51] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: type sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[09:51] <EriC^^> and remove the bios_boot flag from /dev/sda1
[09:51] <Gallomimia> unsupported GPT partition table detected
[09:51] <Gallomimia> use gnu parted :/
[09:52] <Gallomimia> i love my setup. everyone's favorite options are selected
[09:52] <EriC^^> ok, use cgdisk /dev/sda
[09:52] <Gallomimia> change its type?
[09:53] <EriC^^> yeah, to 8300
[09:53] <Gallomimia> 8300
[09:53] <Gallomimia> dang..
[09:54] <Gallomimia> k. sda2: efi system
[09:54] <EriC^^> what are those 1gb partitions?
[09:54] <EriC^^> there are 2gb ones and 1gb ones
[09:54] <Gallomimia> i left them as spare, but turned out to need one for efi
[09:55] <Gallomimia> some are different?
[09:55] <EriC^^> efi needs like 300mb
[09:55] <EriC^^> also you're not using uef
[09:55] <Gallomimia> they're all 1 gig
[09:55] <EriC^^> *uefi
[09:55] <Gallomimia> im not?
[09:55] <EriC^^> nope
[09:55] <Gallomimia> well, since it doesn't boot anyway, i'm not using anything
[09:56] <EriC^^> type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[09:56] <EriC^^> lol
[09:56] <EriC^^> does the dir exist?
[09:56] <Gallomimia> yes
[09:56] <EriC^^> ok, so the live usb is booted in uefi mode
[09:56] <EriC^^> type sudo partprobe
[09:56] <EriC^^> then then sudo chroot /mnt
[09:56] <Gallomimia> it gives me the choice at boot menu
[09:57] <Gallomimia> what's partprobe supposed to do?
[09:57] <Gallomimia> it spits out the same errors as parted -l
[09:57] <EriC^^> let's the kernel know about changes to the partition table
[09:57] <EriC^^> np
[09:57] <Gallomimia> k. do i mount /boot and /boot/EFI ?
[09:58] <Gallomimia> can do that after chroot
[09:58] <EriC^^> not yet
[09:58] <EriC^^> yeah you can
[09:58] <EriC^^> did you chroot ?
[09:58] <Gallomimia> root@ubuntu:/#
[09:59] <Gallomimia> i'd bet money with anyone else in the channel you solved it with that boot flag
[09:59] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok. type cat /etc/fstab | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[10:01] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok
[10:01] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: it looks like it's using an efi partition, and no separate /boot
[10:01] <Gallomimia> the last time i tweaked this fstab i put the right UUID in for ei and boot
[10:02] <Gallomimia> i think.... i must have deleted the line for /boot
[10:02] <mogost> Has someone ASUS N551JM or similar model? Can confirm bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1539843
[10:02] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, type blkid | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[10:03] <Gallomimia> or i can just insert that line back?
[10:03] <EriC^^> no
[10:03] <EriC^^> let's have a clear idea of what's going on
[10:04] <Gallomimia> http://sprunge.us/EAXX
[10:05] <Gallomimia> in case you're wondering, the sdX3's are all raidmembers
[10:06] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: add the line
[10:07] <Gallomimia> remember this is not the system i'm typing on. manual typing, no copy-paste
[10:07] <EriC^^> UUID=b7a45614-003a-431c-a395-8d30b2680427 /boot ext3 defaults 0 1
[10:08] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: you could use it without a separate boot if you want
[10:08] <EriC^^> grub can install to /boot that's encrypted inside "/"
[10:08] <Gallomimia> 0o
[10:08] <EriC^^> your call
[10:08] <Gallomimia> i figure its complicated enough
[10:08] <EriC^^> you just have to add a line to /etc/default/grub to let it know /boot is encrypted
[10:09] <Gallomimia> id like to try and get it the way it was, then try to make changes if appropriate
[10:09] <EriC^^> ok, so separate /boot or ?
[10:09] <Gallomimia> the goal after this is functional is to add 2 SSD's as dm-cache and possibly some swap
[10:09] <Gallomimia> separate /boot, since we're almost there
[10:10] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, type rsync -av /boot /bootbackup
[10:10] <EriC^^> did you add the line to fstab?
[10:10] <Gallomimia> yes
[10:10] <Gallomimia> and then i typed "yes" on the commandline
[10:10] <EriC^^> ok run the rsync command to back it up
[10:10] <EriC^^> yes to what?
[10:10] <Gallomimia> wrong keyboard
[10:10] <Gallomimia> wut rsync command?
[10:11] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, type rsync -av /boot /bootbackup
[10:11] <Gallomimia> inside chroot?
[10:11] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:11] <Gallomimia> yeah that's handy
[10:11] <Gallomimia> backups. what a concept
[10:13] <EriC^^> done ?
[10:13] <Gallomimia> hm. you know that cgdisk might not have written its changes
[10:13] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l still shows it?
[10:13] <Gallomimia> let's back up a sec. should i exit chroot, and run that part thing
[10:13] <EriC^^> no
[10:13] <Gallomimia> sudo parted -l
[10:13] <Gallomimia> argh
[10:14] <EriC^^> run it inside the chroot
[10:14] <Gallomimia> no boot flag in parted
[10:15] <EriC^^> ok great
[10:15] <Gallomimia> i'm gonna buy a bat and paint the word "Confusion" on it and hit myself in the head whenever i feel this way.
[10:17] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: k i think the next step
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, don't do that.  paint "Clue" on it and you can find WAY more uses.
[10:18] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok, did rsync finish?
[10:18] <Gallomimia> lol
[10:18] <Gallomimia> sure it was pretty quick
[10:19] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: ok
[10:19]  * Gallomimia makes a backup of fstab too
[10:19] <EriC^^> type rm -r /boot/*
[10:19] <EriC^^> we're not actually backing it up
[10:19] <EriC^^> we just need to mount /boot to an empty /boot dir and copy the contents over
[10:19] <Gallomimia> ok
[10:19] <Gallomimia> i've done that a few times by now probably
[10:20] <Gallomimia> rsync -av /bootbackup /boot ?
[10:20] <EriC^^> no
[10:20] <Gallomimia> well, after mounting it
[10:20] <EriC^^> also no
[10:20] <EriC^^> :D
[10:21] <Gallomimia> K
[10:21] <EriC^^> rsync -av /bootbackup/ boot ( yes that tiny "/" at the end makes a huge difference in this case )
[10:21] <Gallomimia> oh yeah
[10:21] <EriC^^> it means it will copy the contents of /bootbackup into /boot
[10:21] <EriC^^> otherwise you'd have /boot/bootbackup
[10:21] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: there's stuff in the mounted /boot
[10:22] <Gallomimia> should i kill it first?
[10:22] <EriC^^> probably from the old install
[10:22] <EriC^^> yeah, nuke it
[10:22] <Gallomimia> yeah i've done some cp's
[10:22] <Gallomimia> uhhhh
[10:22] <Gallomimia> oh that's bad.
[10:23] <Gallomimia> yes very bad.
[10:23] <EriC^^> ?
[10:23] <Gallomimia> ran rm -r * on / instead of /boot
[10:23] <EriC^^> lol
[10:23] <Gallomimia> it's official: 2am is a bad time for linux-fu
[10:23] <EriC^^> yes, that can be damaging
[10:24] <Gallomimia> well, it says bash: /bin/ls no such file or directory
[10:24] <EriC^^> ok did you have your stuff mounted?
[10:24] <Gallomimia> well i pressed ^c pretty soon but yes
[10:24] <EriC^^> it would have removed stuff alphabetically
[10:25] <EriC^^> it's toast anyways, good thing you didn't have anything mounted though
[10:25] <EriC^^> you have to reinstall now
[10:26] <Gallomimia> hm
[10:26] <Gallomimia> the next thing in the list is home but nothing seems missing
[10:27] <Gallomimia> anyway, just going to check for how much damage, then go to sleep
[10:27] <EriC^^> ok
[10:28] <Gallomimia> thanks so far by the way. most progress yet
[10:28] <EriC^^> no problem, shame what happened, it's not a big deal though since your data is ok
[10:28] <Gallomimia> yeah
[10:28] <Gallomimia> also, the last time i put files on this, it was a copy. let me ask you
[10:28] <Gallomimia> clean install, onto this raid and LVM
[10:29] <ExtremeGHz> lamo xD
[10:29] <Gallomimia> it should be simple enough yes?
[10:29] <ExtremeGHz> sorry i was reading backwards
[10:29] <ExtremeGHz> it reminds me of doing that so often exidently
[10:29] <Gallomimia> yeah, thought i was in /boot and typed rm -r *
[10:29] <Gallomimia> but, i was in slash, with root privs
[10:30] <Gallomimia> seriously how did i not lose more stuff? half my home directory should be gone
[10:30] <EriC^^> it probably hung on /dev
[10:30] <Gallomimia> that's what spat out errors
[10:30] <Gallomimia> got me to notice something was amiss
[10:31] <net2014> Hello
[10:31] <Gallomimia> hi
[10:31] <davide> CIAO
[10:31] <net2014> Sometimes, applications crash, why is that?
[10:31] <Gallomimia> bad programming.
[10:31] <Gallomimia> or! out of memory
[10:32] <net2014> I have 8 go of ram
[10:32] <net2014> Gab
[10:32] <net2014> Go
[10:32] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: so nothing was actually mounted right?
[10:32] <Gallomimia> without knowing more speciics about your stuff, no idea
[10:33] <EriC^^> cause you had a lot of stuff in fstab like /code and /srv etc.
[10:33] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: /home was actually mounted inside the chroot
[10:33] <EriC^^> oh
[10:33] <Gallomimia> the rest wasn't no
[10:33] <EriC^^> oh ok
[10:33] <Gallomimia> but like i said, for some reason the home dir was untouched
[10:34] <EriC^^> you should probably back everything up somewhere
[10:34] <Gallomimia> yeah a 4tb raid ain't really getting backed up anywhere
[10:34] <EriC^^> i have an ext hddi back my home dir too, i kept erasing it by mistake a couple times last year
[10:34] <EriC^^> so i just sudo ./bkup and it just mounts and rsyncs stuff over
[10:34] <Gallomimia> i have a mirror of some of the various home dirs that i have had since this machine started going wonky
[10:35] <Gallomimia> there's a LOT of things that need doing to this setup
[10:35] <Gallomimia> for example...moar casefans!
[10:36] <net2014> So, actually applications crash on ubuntu and it is normal?
[10:36] <Gallomimia> sometimes
[10:36] <sdx32> Gallomimia: I'm no member of no raid!
[10:36] <Gallomimia> lol
[10:36] <Gallomimia> wow that's funny
[10:37] <Gallomimia> i should have typed sd[a,b,c]3
[10:38] <net2014> Ok, thanks
[10:39] <nagv> Is there any major difference between elementary os and ubuntu, except for the desktop environment ?
[10:39] <Gallomimia> elementary?
[10:39] <ikonia> depends on your definition of major, the desktop has a lot of dependencies
[10:39] <ikonia> it would be best to ask the elementry guys for details of what they take from ubuntu and what they change and what they write themselves
[10:39] <nagv> oh ok
[10:50] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: i'll run that install. grub fails 100% of the time so, i suspect i'll be back and begging for handholding
[11:08] <Gallomimia> net2014: the difference between ubuntu and commercial OS: when programs crash, you can submit the bug reports and find the people who wrote it, and get it fixed.
[11:08] <Gallomimia> commercial products, you're stuck with that until they feel like releasing an update
[11:09] <ikonia> thats just nonsense
[11:09] <ikonia> there are many many many unresolved bugs in opensource software
[11:09] <Mathisen> bugs in closed also...
[11:12] <cybernella> good morning all
[11:13] <Gallomimia> here a bug there a bug, everywhere a bug
[11:13] <EriC^^> morning cybernella
[11:13] <cybernella> hi EriC
[11:14] <catopett> Are you a BUG then?
[11:14] <cybernella> may I ask a question about the config of 2 network cards?
[11:14] <Gallomimia> my point is, big nasty bugs were found last year in bash, crypo, and where else. fixed and patches out in a few days. less on some
[11:14] <Gallomimia> !ask
[11:15] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: wow. grub install success. but doesn't finish booting :/
[11:15] <cybernella> I've set up the first network card as static and the second in dhcp
[11:15] <Gallomimia> bring them both up?
[11:16] <catopett> How do i install dhcp server then?
[11:16] <cybernella> how can I permit to surf the internet using the first as default and the second if the first is unplugged?
[11:18] <catopett> Cannot join #kubuntu-no (Channel is invite only).
[11:18] <Gallomimia> can someone tell me how to config a DNS server from command line? i got networking but no resolve
[11:18] <Gallomimia> \
[11:18] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: copy /etc/resolv.conf from the live session to the chroot
[11:19] <Gallomimia> im in recovery mode now actually.
[11:19] <Gallomimia> the grub install went off without a hitch, thanks to not putting boot flag on /boot
[11:19] <EriC^^> press enable networking
[11:19] <Gallomimia> i did
[11:19] <Gallomimia> but i'm behind 2 nats and the dns settings aren't happy
[11:19] <bazhang> catopett, #ubuntu-no handles the kubuntu isses, no seperate channel
[11:20] <catopett> I am going to ask a question that is hard to answere, how do i make a restore partition for linux?
[11:20] <Gallomimia> we use a tool called LVM
[11:21] <ikonia> catopett: what do you mean by a restore partition ?
[11:21] <Gallomimia> sometimes. either way. the same way you made a regular installation of your linux. first you need a partition, that's step 1. then you install something on it, and put backups there
[11:22] <nagv> Question about apt: Are source files from source.list.d folder automatically loaded by apt, or is there some option to turn it off in /etc/apt/ ?
[11:22] <Gallomimia> a rescue and backup partition like windows has
[11:22] <catopett> Like the one in Windows restore
[11:22] <Gallomimia> catopett: a better question is why do you need it?
[11:22] <ikonia> catopett: linux doesn't really work like that, you can take snapshots of your disks, but that requires a growing ammount of disk space,
[11:22] <Gallomimia> would you want it on the same disk, or separate disk?
[11:23] <catopett> IF... the linux crashes, i need to reinstall it the way it was before
[11:23] <Gallomimia> keep your LiveUSB stick
[11:24] <catopett> Is WiZ online?
[11:25] <ikonia> catopett: /whois wiz
[11:25] <ikonia> win 1
[11:25] <catopett> Jarkko Oikarinen
[11:25] <ikonia> catopett: what ?
[11:26] <catopett> WiZ is Jarkko Oikarinen
[11:26] <Gallomimia> that appears to be hisname
[11:26] <cybernella> how can I permit to surf the internet using the first as default and the second if the first is unplugged?
[11:26] <ikonia> catopett: what do you want from this channel ? we are not a yellow pages to help you find people
[11:26] <ikonia> cybernella: you would need to use a bonded interface in an active passive fail over
[11:28] <cybernella> ikonia, taht means?
[11:28] <ikonia> cybernella: exactly what I said
[11:28] <cybernella> that*
[11:29] <Mathisen> :x:
[11:29] <cybernella> ikonia, how can I do it?
[11:29] <nagv> Question about apt: Are PPA sources from sources.list.d automatically used by apt, or is there some option to turn it off ?
[11:29] <ikonia> they are used
[11:29] <ikonia> you can turn them off by removing the file from sources.list.d
[11:30] <nagv> so there is no way to turn off reading from that folder alltogether ?
[11:30] <ikonia> why ?
[11:30] <ikonia> what's the actual problem ?
[11:31] <nagv> just intrested, there is no problem
[11:31] <ikonia> that folder is just an include, you can use the apt config to not include that folder
[11:31] <ikonia> if you remember it used to have to go in the sources.list file, later releases put an include in the conifg so you could put repos in individual files
[11:32] <nagv> oh ok, thanks
[11:41] <Gallomimia> EriC^^: cat resolv.conf: nosuch file or directory ;D
[11:42] <Gallomimia> oh it's a broken link thats why
[11:42] <Gallomimia> at any rate the old config wouldn't work in the new location anyways
[11:43] <ikonia> Gallomimia: just re-install
[11:43] <Gallomimia> i just did that ikonia
[11:43] <ikonia> I don't know why you are making this into such a drawn out situation
[11:43] <ikonia> then what's the problem ?
[11:43] <Gallomimia> it didn't boot in normal mode. only recovery
[11:44] <ikonia> why
[11:44] <Gallomimia> and that doesn't have any access to dns servers till i fix that
[11:44] <Gallomimia> if i knew that... i'd fix it.
[11:44] <Gallomimia> my theory so far is missing packages
[11:44] <ikonia> it doesn't need dns servers to boot
[11:44] <ikonia> how could a clean install have missing packages
[11:44] <Gallomimia> so ineed the dns to work so i can pull repos
[11:44] <ikonia> no you don't
[11:44] <ikonia> you need to do another clean install
[11:44] <Gallomimia> no video drivers, no desktop,
[11:45] <Gallomimia> i need to stop listening to you, that's what i need to do
[11:45] <ikonia> it will boot into fail safe graphics
[11:45] <ikonia> that should be enough to get it to a desktop from a clean install
[11:45] <ikonia> no external / additional downloads are needed
[11:45] <Gallomimia> not if the desktop package isn't installed.
[11:45] <ikonia> why would the desktop package not be installed on a clean install
[11:45] <Gallomimia> because i used the server installer
[11:45] <ikonia> why ?
[11:46] <Gallomimia> since the desktop installer won't install mdadm
[11:46] <ikonia> you're not really making sense
[11:46] <ikonia> you're saying it's booting into recovery mode - fine thats a problem
[11:46] <ikonia> now you're saying it's not booting the desktop because packages are missing
[11:46] <Gallomimia> no, that's a fabulous thing.
[11:46] <ikonia> they are two different things
[11:46] <Gallomimia> it used to boot to a blinking cursor
[11:46] <Gallomimia> ....
[11:47] <Gallomimia> i really am going to ignore you now
[11:47] <ikonia> you're not making any sense
[11:47] <ikonia> is it booting into recovery mode yes/no
[11:47] <Gallomimia> yes.
[11:47] <Gallomimia> why are you asking this twice?
[11:47] <ikonia> ok - so why is it doing that
[11:47] <ikonia> forget additional packages
[11:47] <Gallomimia> because i told it to!
[11:47] <ikonia> why ?
[11:47] <Gallomimia> because it wouldn't boot normally.
[11:47] <ikonia> why do you need it in recovery mode ?
[11:47] <Gallomimia> why else?
[11:48] <ikonia> ok, so why will it not boot normally ?
[11:48] <Gallomimia> three times i told myself to stop talking to you, why won't i listen?
[11:48] <ikonia> you seem to be going nowhere and making random guesses at things
[11:48] <Gallomimia> ....
[11:48] <Gallomimia> i need to tell it where to go with DNS
[11:48] <ikonia> the system should boot "normally" without any need for packages
[11:48] <Gallomimia> will you help me with that or not?
[11:48] <ikonia> you need to resolve that before looking at additional packages
[11:49] <ikonia> or at least understand why
[11:49] <ikonia> you need a clean "normal" boot before you start looking at changing packages
[11:51] <Deamosreapos> Hello, I need some help
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !help | Deamosreapos
[11:51] <catopett> Come on
[11:51] <Remind> Holy cow. I think I may have finally fixed my graphics issue LOL. I have a hybrid setup I believe, a GTX 950M on an intel i7. I followed a guide that had me do a fresh install, purge nvidia, and install nvidia-358 nvidia-prime. When I go to system info, it actually detects the GTX 950M. Does this mean it worked?
[11:52] <Deamosreapos> I updated from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, after the update I might have updated the MYSQL config files, but I am not sure, but all my databases are gone
[11:52] <Deamosreapos> So how can I either recover or find them?
[11:52] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: are the database files there
[11:52] <Deamosreapos> I am not sure where "there" is
[11:53] <catopett> REMEMBER ALL, do a BACKUP of files BEFORE upgrading
[11:53] <ikonia> catopett: please stop
[11:53] <Gallomimia> Remind: yes. you should be able to run nvidia-settings now, and see some things
[11:53] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: if you look in the my.cnf you should see a data dir
[11:53] <ikonia> the norm is /var/lib/mysql
[11:54] <Remind> Gallonimia: YES! Omg you have no idea how excted I am right now lol. The past week has been going through distros, uninstalling/reinstalling, just trying to get my GPU to work so I can play on Steam
[11:54] <catopett> Jøss, er det Norske her da?
[11:54] <Remind> I've tried bumblebee and all sorts of 'solutions'. Nothing worked until I did this and switch to Ubuntu 15.10
[11:54] <jnhghy> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 14.04, I'm trying to install and use npm, I've downloaded the nvm and install node and everything worked but after I closed and restarted shell things broke: when I type npm -version I get nothing back only the shell goes to a new line with the pwd info waiting for new command, can anyone help?
[11:54] <Deamosreapos> ikonia theres a reference to a default database but the others are not there ><
[11:54] <Deamosreapos> I used a controll panel (Zpanel) to handle databases
[11:55] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: we can't support those pannels - but lets look at the file system
[11:55] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: look in /var/lib/mysql and look in my.cnf at where it thinks the data dir is
[11:55] <xmj> moin
[11:56] <xmj> does apt-cache have a means of showing which package a particular file comes from -- similar to `yum provides`, and `pkg which` ?
[11:56] <ikonia> xmj: apt-file
[11:56] <xmj> thanks
[11:57] <Deamosreapos> ikonia that file is not present there
[11:57] <Remind> My next question, if you don't mind: When I go to the Software Center (Ubuntu 15.10) and I try to install Steam, I searched 'Steam'. When I double click it all I get is "Not found: There isn’t a software package called “steam” in your current software sources."
[11:57] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: what file
[11:57] <geirha> for a file currently installed, you can use dpkg -S /some/file; for uninstalled packages, you need apt-file
[11:57] <Deamosreapos> ikonia my.cnf
[11:57] <xmj> yeah i was looking for dpkg -S
[11:57] <xmj> :)
[11:58] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: it's not in that directory, /var/lib/mysql normally contains the mysql data files directly, you can look in there to see if the files are there
[11:58] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: you also need to look at /etc/my.cnf to see where mysql is looking (datadir) for the database files
[11:58] <Deamosreapos> Ah that explains sorry :)
[11:58] <ikonia> see if it is the same place as where the database files are
[11:59] <Deamosreapos> basedir=/usr datadir=/var/lib/mysql
[11:59] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: ok, so the database files need to be in /var/lib/mysql - are they there
[12:00] <xmj> next question: is there a way to see only the leaf packages installed (those that some admin installed X years ago, all manually) ?
[12:00] <xmj> (with apt tools)
[12:00] <Deamosreapos> this is de LS: admin_jeepforum  ibdata1  ib_logfile0  ib_logfile1  mysql  performance_schema
[12:00] <Deamosreapos> where the admin_jeepforum is generic
[12:00] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: what /
[12:01] <Deamosreapos> Thats a default nothing in there
[12:01] <Gallomimia> well, that's installing
[12:01] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: do you know how to use a pastebin ?
[12:01] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: pastebin.ubuntu.com for example ?
[12:01] <Deamosreapos> sure
[12:01] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: run "ls -la /var/lib/msql" and pastebin the output into pastebin.ubuntu.com please
[12:02] <Deamosreapos> ikonia No such file or directory
[12:02] <Gallomimia> you forgot a y
[12:02] <ikonia> oops
[12:02] <Gallomimia> in mysql
[12:02] <ikonia> good spot
[12:02] <ikonia> mysql
[12:03] <xmj> (apt-mark showmanual)
[12:03] <Remind> Question: So I can't install steam from the Software Manager, but I was able to do it from the command line. However, now that it's installed, I can't find an icon for it and when I Search "Steam" it doesn't show up. If I go into terminal and type 'steam' it works, however. Will I have to do this every time?
[12:03] <Gallomimia> yes
[12:04] <Gallomimia> well, you might find it in the search bar
[12:04] <Gallomimia> and it usually makes itself a desktop icon
[12:04] <Remind> Gallomimia: I tried that, it doesn't find it
[12:04] <Deamosreapos> ikonia http://pastebin.com/k9GATKzU
[12:04] <Remind> I also ran it, did the updates, logged in just fine, but it didn't create an icon. I mean, it showed the icon perfectly on the left hand side while it was running on the menu. But after I closed out, it disappeared.
[12:05] <Gallomimia> yeah steam is a weird one
[12:05] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: ok, so it looks like you have a database caled admin_jeepforum
[12:05] <Gallomimia> all i can say is go complain to Gabe
[12:05] <Remind> Haha
[12:05] <Deamosreapos> ikonia that database is empty it was made after the upgrade
[12:06] <Remind> Well, another question I have is: how can I tell if Steam is using my NVIDIA card and not the integrated one?
[12:06] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: can you show me the output of ls -la /var/lib/mysql/admin_jeepforum in a pastebin please
[12:06] <Deamosreapos> ikonia the database im after is called something like jeepforum and zwembaddukenburg
[12:06] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: those databases don't appear to exist as data files
[12:06] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: your permissions on that file system are totally screwed up too
[12:06] <Gallomimia> Remind: steam won't. but the games will. i'm not sure how to tell, but there should be some nvidia settings to help figure that out
[12:06] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: I could guess that has something to do with the panel software you are using
[12:07] <Deamosreapos> ikonia im thinking that asswell, but its weird the 4 other databases that were there are gone,
[12:07] <Deamosreapos> Ikonia i suspect they were at a different location since the file size of the server hasnt decreased drastically after upgrading (I would espect 4-10 gb less in database files)
[12:07] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: I thing I can say for certain, is that if you where using the mysql pacakge provided by ubuntu and upgraded, the ubuntu upgrade did not delete your databases
[12:08] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: it would be hard for them to be in a different location
[12:08] <Gallomimia> find / -name mysql
[12:08] <Deamosreapos> ikonia I would be suprised asswell
[12:08] <ikonia> you could always do a "find" against the files
[12:08] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: but as your config shows "/var/lib/mysql" if they are not there - it can't read other places
[12:08] <Gallomimia> oh. when running find on / best to pipe the error to null
[12:08] <Deamosreapos> A whole lot of permissions denied
[12:09] <Gallomimia> add 2> /dev/null to the end
[12:09] <Gallomimia> yeah there's tons of places you aren't allowed in
[12:09] <Deamosreapos> ikonia I recon there was a custom config, but it changed to default after upgrading
[12:09] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: thats possible
[12:09] <Gallomimia> if you add the 2> /dev/null then it'll trash those errors and just show results
[12:11] <Deamosreapos> http://pastebin.com/JrRdyfE8
[12:11] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: don't search for mysql
[12:11] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: you need to search for the database name
[12:11] <ikonia> however /usr/local/vesta = danger
[12:11] <Deamosreapos> ah ok
[12:11] <ikonia> this is not a standard ubuntu install
[12:11] <ikonia> this is someone hacking a custom setup together
[12:12] <ikonia> I'm afraid all bets are off on the state of your system after an upgrade
[12:12] <Gallomimia> possibly a host specific vps image
[12:12] <catopett> WHO is SysOP on this server?
[12:12] <ikonia> catopett: whats the problem ?
[12:12] <Deamosreapos> Yes it is a firmware from a VPS host
[12:12] <k1l_> catopett: #freenode is the channel for the server staff
[12:12] <catopett> Set the -i on "#kubuntu-no"
[12:13] <Gallomimia> Deamosreapos: not really a good idea to upgrade those i'm afraid
[12:13] <k1l_> catopett: please ask in #ubuntu-irc
[12:13] <ikonia> your server host should be doing the upgrades
[12:13] <Deamosreapos> Pfff shit >< So what now?
[12:13] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: no need to swear
[12:13] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: search for the database files - you may get lucky
[12:14] <Gallomimia> well, there might be a need to swear, but its against the rules in here
[12:14] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: log a call to your hosting provider explaining what you've done and ask for advice/recommendations on how to manage the server going forward
[12:14] <Gallomimia> ikonia: what's the extension on mysql files? any?
[12:14] <Deamosreapos> My apologys
[12:14] <ikonia> hang on
[12:14] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: no big deal
[12:15] <Deamosreapos> Well the server still is running,
[12:15] <ikonia> MDY and MYI
[12:15] <ikonia> or .frm
[12:15] <Deamosreapos> But the problem is mainly the databases
[12:15] <radu> hi
[12:15] <ikonia> but if you search for the database name '*databasename*' you should find it
[12:15] <Deamosreapos> Theres multiple wordpress sites and a big use site (got a dump off that)
[12:15] <Gallomimia> yeah that's a good idea. they'll either know a secret about where it might be, or perhaps have a backup for you
[12:15] <ikonia> Deamosreapos: what "appears" to be working and what is working are two different things
[12:15] <Deamosreapos> witht he *?
[12:15] <Gallomimia> yes
[12:16] <Gallomimia> Deamosreapos: if it's not all tickity boo, there's a problem. and they'll help you if its a good host
[12:16] <ynix> For some reason my user init process gradually ramped up in memory usage until the computer completely ran out, and my ~/.cache/upstart/ directory grew to over 20gb! What gives?
[12:16] <ikonia> ynix: I'd guess a service you have configured is re-spawning a lot
[12:16] <ikonia> due to a problem/bug
[12:16] <ikonia> but that is ust a guess
[12:17] <Gallomimia> probably a service that is dying and respawning. probably mysql
[12:17] <ikonia> why probably mysql ?
[12:17] <ikonia> there are many upstart jobs on ubuntu
[12:18] <ynix> this is stock ubuntu btw
[12:18] <Gallomimia> ynix did you update stuff recently?
[12:18] <spm_draget> Xenial #Alpha 2 is not yet feature-freeze, I know. But out of curiosity: Does it use the main (currently alpha) xenail repository and when it is officially released, an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will get me to the very same state as the official release, or is there anything special happened that would make it better to use a clean installed from the official install media?
[12:18] <ynix> Gallomimia, Not sure, probably yesterday?
[12:19] <Deamosreapos> http://pastebin.com/ReMLKJRr
[12:19] <Deamosreapos> The jeepforum.sql is made by me in 2014
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> spm_draget  #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <Gallomimia> something got updated, changed its configs, and now when upstart tries to start it, it dies, but upstart tries to start it again. all this results in logs i guess. i've heard mysql give that problem more than once. just a few days ago in fact
[12:20] <Gallomimia> at any rate, you need to check system logs to find out whats up
[12:20] <ynix> Gallomimia, Where should I look?
[12:20] <Gallomimia> i'm going to ask ikonia in this case. i think it's /var/log/sys or something
[12:20] <ikonia>  /var/log/syslog ?
[12:21] <ikonia> is that what you're looking for ?
[12:21] <Gallomimia> something like that
[12:21] <Gallomimia> it'll have hints of where to look next
[12:23] <ynix> any idea of something I can grep?
[12:23] <Gallomimia> probably in the last 10 lines
[12:23] <Gallomimia> but grep  upstart
[12:24] <Gallomimia> and what exactly in the cache folder is taking up gigs?
[12:24] <Gallomimia> maybe that's logs worth looking at
[12:24] <ynix> the upstart directory
[12:25] <ynix> I had to delete it because my computer became unusable
[12:25] <ynix> I couldn't run any shell commands, create any files
[12:25] <ynix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1312051
[12:25] <ynix> this seems relevant
[12:46] <mrcee3> i cannot seem to figure out how to make my sound travel to my hdmi port
[12:47] <mrcee3> i cannot seem to figure out how to make my sound travel to my hdmi port
[12:47] <MrElendig> mrcee3: open pavucontrol and play with the mixer settings
[12:55] <ExtremeGHz> mrcee3: you should open 'sudo alsamixer' and switch your audio output device and unmute your HDMI output
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> alsamixer does not require sudo
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:57] <leo_> hello world
[12:57] <OWLCOL> hooola
[12:59] <darkduke> why unity8 use qt?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | darkduke,
[13:02] <ExtremeGHz> MonkeyDust: ah i didnt know that, thanks :p
[13:04] <Saggoy> ?/help
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !help | Saggoy
[13:05] <mrcee3> how do you highlight someones name
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> mrcee3  type the first 2-3 characters, then hit tab to autocomplete
[13:06] <mrcee3> MonkeyDust: test
[13:06] <mrcee3> ExtremeGHz: see what i see.... http://imgur.com/fRYpqiC
[13:10] <mrcee3> ExtremeGHz: you stil avail?
[13:11] <santonase> Ребят, есть кто русс/укр говорящие? напишите пожалуйста
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[13:13] <mrcee3> i cannot seem to figure out how to make my sound travel to my hdmi port... i dloaded pulse audio and reviewed my alsamixer
[13:14] <BluesKaj> mrcee3, which ubuntu ?
[13:16] <ExtremeGHz> mrcee3: have you tried using another device in alsamixer with F6?
[13:16] <mrcee3> BluesKaj: 14.04 lts
[13:16] <d1> Hi. It is needed to remove first build-in ubuntu opensource videodrivers before installing proprietary from some sites?
[13:16] <ExtremeGHz> d1: you could use the driver manager in ubuntu, it will automatically do this for you
[13:17] <MrElendig> d1: *never* install the nvidia/amd driver directly from their site
[13:17] <MrElendig> d1: it will mess up your system
[13:17] <d1> :D
[13:18] <root_> hey
[13:18] <xyzz> telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 2181 Trying <IP_ADDRESS>... Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>. Escape character is '^]'. ^CConnection closed by foreign host.
[13:19] <cfhowlett> telnet?
[13:19] <xyzz> yes
[13:19] <PevPearce> Hi Ubuntu. i am trying to play a 4K @ 60 FPS video on Ubuntu but the playback is super jerky. On rMBP it is OK. What supposed to be the problem? i5-6200U
[13:19] <BluesKaj> mrcee3, disable automute in alsamixer and tuen up the volume in spdif , then in pulseaudio choose the spdif output as well and maje it's card 0 in audio settings
[13:19] <root_> can anyone tell me why i get the 'temporary failure in name resolution while joining as a user?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> make sure
[13:20] <cfhowlett> PevPearce, same here and I've got the highest specs on the m3800 dell ... look to your GPU.
[13:21] <PevPearce> cfhowlett: if i'm not mistaken the gpu is Intel HD520. do you happen to have fixing the playback issue?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> PevPearce, no fix that I could find.  seems that 4k / 60 FPS is a just a bit too much for my system at present.
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> root_  when, where, doing what, using which ubuntu?
[13:23] <xyzz> cfhowlett: can you assist
[13:24] <root_> mokeydust i m using 15.10
[13:24] <xyzz> trying to connect zookeper
[13:24] <PevPearce> cfhowlett: Just curious, do you get a smooth playback with 4K @ 30FPS?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> xyzz, without knowing more about why you're getting rejected, I suggest you contact the other side of that connection.
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> root_  another thing: better don't be root, when you go in the net
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> on*
[13:25] <root_> yes i know but i can't do anything
[13:25] <cfhowlett> PevPearce, didn't try it but that would be a worthy experiment!  easy to do with VLC player.  Let me look online for a 4k video to play with
[13:25] <root_> i had to go with the root
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> root_  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[13:26] <root_> i tried to walk with my name but it says temporary failure in name resolution
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> root_  walk with your name? what does that mean?
[13:27] <root_> i even tried to get with another name but still the same resuly
[13:27] <root_> i mean i tried to join with the name what i prefer
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> root_  join to what? what are you doing?
[13:28] <root_> i want to join an irc server, but the temporary failure pops up
[13:29] <PevPearce> cfhowlett: for me the playback of 4K video @ 30 FPS is real smooth in Ubuntu. OTOH the rMBP 2015 playing 4K video @ FPS with no problem at all. Maybe it's Intel Driver issue?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> PevPearce, very possible.  I take it you installed the actual intel linux driver?  I have not as said driver doesn't support 14.04
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> root_  type /j #freenode, ask there
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> or ##freenode, i forget
[13:31] <keriwarr> Hello! I made a big mistake and ran `sudo apt-get remove python` followed by `sudo apt-get autoremove` and seem to have lost a lot of critical packages. I think I can fix this pretty easily if I can get ubuntu to recognize my ethernet connection, but right now all I have is a non network enabled ubuntu terminal, and a different working computer wit
[13:31] <keriwarr> h internet and a USB stick. any recommendations? =]
[13:31] <root_> can u atleast tell me what can be the possible issue that is stopping me to enter irc servers?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> root_  no, i'm not familiar with that error
[13:32] <keriwarr> oh, I also don't really want to do a re-install
[13:32] <PevPearce> cfhowlett: yes, i even tried playing the video on Xenial daily as it has the latest Intel Graphics stack, but the issue persist.  T_T
[13:33] <cfhowlett> PevPearce, as you reported clean play on the rmpb side, I suggest it is likely a driver issue ... BUT ... /swap size?
[13:33] <tsp`> and then use dpkg -i manually, if all else fails
[13:33] <tsp`> but then you'll need to install packages in the correct order, because of dependencies
[13:33] <tsp`> if you have access to another ubuntu system with the same version, you can use `apt-get download <package>` to download debs
[13:34] <tsp`> no sudo needed for that
[13:34] <keriwarr> tsp`: that is what I tried so far with just ubuntu-desktop package, but I seem to be missing A LOT of dependencies and figuring it out would be hard
[13:34] <BluesKaj> keriwarr, why did you remove python first of al and second please watch your language
[13:34] <tsp`> you'll need to install them all, I'm afraid...
[13:34] <PevPearce> cfhowlett: 4GB of swap
[13:34] <tsp`> and yeah removing python is a very bad idea, the system needs it
[13:35] <keriwarr> BluesKaj: ah sorry about that. I'm am extremely sleep deprived and was trying to install a different version
[13:36] <keriwarr> tsp`: oh, I can use apt-get on another system to download the deb and all of it's dependencies at once?
[13:36] <tsp`> it'll only download the one package, I'm afraid
[13:36] <tsp`> keriwarr: apt-cache depends lists dependencies
[13:36] <tsp`> maybe that can help
[13:38] <BluesKaj> tsp`, think keriwarr is headed for a re-install
[13:38] <tsp`> BluesKaj: I would certainly reinstall if I were in his shoes
[13:38] <BluesKaj> tsp`, yup, no doubt
[13:39] <keriwarr> BluesKaj: ok, I'm going to build a list of all packages on the offline machine, download on other, then install all with dpkg, and if that doesn't work I'll reinstall everything n=]
[13:39] <tsp`> he did state though that he didn't really want to because of a deadline. but I don't know if it's anyhow possible to save the system (at least in a feasible timeframe) at this point
[13:39] <tsp`> that sounds like a plan
[13:39] <tsp`> albeit it sounds like a long shot. you could possibly save some time by just skipping to reinstalling right away
[13:40] <keriwarr> one day I will be competent at sysadmin'ing....
[13:41] <BluesKaj> keriwarr, I agrree with tsp`, a re--install would probly be faster...mucking about with missing packages and their dependencies might take even longer
[13:42] <moon_> Hello. How can I to know how many bits do I have in my CPU(32 or 64)?
[13:43] <keriwarr> eh, this is starting to sound like an interesting experience, i'll give it a shot anyhow :^)
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> moon_  sudo dmidecode --type 4
[13:46] <philinux> moon_;~ or just uname -p
[13:47] <keriwarr> so what should I have done in this situation? I am running an application which is erroring out, and apparently this error was fixed in py2.7.9+ but I am running 2.7.6 ... something to do with virtual environments?
[13:48] <ioria> !info python2.7 vivid
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> keriwarr  try and ask in a python channel
[13:48] <keriwarr> ok thx
[13:49] <solo> Hey
[13:51] <solo> Hey
[13:51] <solo> monkeydust u there?
[13:52] <MrElendig> keriwarr: upgrade python
[13:52] <PHroGman> I have a question I have been unable to get an answer to in the forums
[13:53] <keriwarr> MrElendig: might this not cause issues with my system given that a lot of ubuntu apparently depends on python, and not everything is backwards compatible?
[13:53] <PHroGman> Running 14.04 and the system tray icons appear to be generic looking boxes on the login screen only
[13:53] <alex__> hi
[13:54] <alex__> is there someone?
[13:54] <PHroGman> On my desktop they are the normal looking icons
[13:54] <alex__> im trying to create a hotspot on my ubuntu to share my internet to my phone
[13:54] <PHroGman> Howerver, they do function as intended. T
[13:55] <alex__> but when i create it  the network i created doesnt appears on my phone
[13:55] <alex__> what i do wrong?
[13:56] <stasiic> alex__: what program do you use? have you set the SSID to be visible?
[13:56] <alex__> i dont use program
[13:56] <alex__> it comes with ubuntu
[13:56] <alex__> i have two wificards
[13:57] <alex__> one connected to the internet
[13:57] <alex__> and the other one is the one im trying to use as hotspot
[13:58] <alex__> so when i clck in "use as hotspot" in network setting on ubuntu
[13:58] <alex__> it creates the hotspot but i cant see the ssid visible
[13:58] <Michael2016> Hi all. Hope somebody can help me.
[13:58] <alex__> in my phone
[13:59] <ioria> keriwarr, i don't know your specific problem, but when had issue with py version i used pytnonbrew http://www.howopensource.com/2011/05/how-to-install-and-manage-different-versions-of-python-in-linux/    idk if it stills works
[13:59] <alex__> and ubuntu doesnt let me to change any option
[13:59] <cfhowlett> alex_, stop hitting the enter key.  all issues and information on one line makes it easier to read.
[13:59] <cfhowlett> !help | Michael2016,
[13:59] <alex__> like essid or password so if u know of anyother freesofware
[13:59] <alex__> software*
[14:00] <Michael2016> I'm running hostapd on a USB wifi dongle. I want to go ubuntu in client mode if connection to wireless access point can be established. If not hostapd should be started again.
[14:00] <alex__> i just need a good software where i can create a hotspot and change password and essid
[14:00] <alex__> and encryption
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> alex__  spare the enter key, type all in one line, so you can easily repeat the question, by hitting the up key
[14:03] <alex__> someone there?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> alex_, two of us have addressed you.   do you not see those messages?
[14:05] <vbotka> Michael2016, I'm not aware of any out-of-the-box solution. But you can disable NetworkManger , use wpa_cli  and hostapd_cli, and write scripts on your own.
[14:13] <Renfried>  running ubuntu-mate 15.10. I tried out a usb live version of tails, and since then, I have a 13g partition on sda1 (iso9660) (USB disk removed) and my grub partition(I would assume after a kernel update) is missing the windows recovery partition which is normally sda1, and is renamed sda2, and my windows is now sda3. But in grub now I only have options for Ubuntu and windows, where before I also had the windows recovery partition. can i just unmount and then
[14:13] <Renfried> run sudo update-grub?
[14:13] <w0jrl> Good morning
[14:13] <Michael2016> vbotka: Thanks I will try this. I do not have NetworkManager installed.
[14:19] <lapatate> hi
[14:23] <Gallomimia> ikonia: that fix i was working on turned out perfectly
[14:25] <remind> Got a question if you all don't mind: I finally did a fresh install, installed nvidia 358 drivers, and have a stable copy of Ubuntu 15.10 working. I didn't install bumblebee yet even though I believe I have a Optimus system (GTX 950M). I played steam and it looks like it's using my integrated card based on rendering quality. What should I do?
[14:26] <Gallomimia> what's bumblebee??
[14:26] <BluesKaj> remind, just make sure you have nvidia-prime installed
[14:27] <remind> BluesKaj, I do!
[14:27] <BluesKaj> !nvidia-prime
[14:27] <kruffwuff> quit
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> Gallomimia  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[14:28] <Gallomimia> !find nvidia-prime
[14:28] <remind> And for the first time all week since I started, my system boots without error. System Info even displays the GTX 950M and not the Intel integrated for once. I'm just worried of breaking something again, lol
[14:29] <odisa> Hello again.. I'm still struggling with converting my dual-boot Ubuntu/Windows to a single boot Ubuntu. Yesterday someone indicated my problem might be outdated firmware on my Samsung EVO 840, so I tried to upgrade it, and in doing so bricked it. So now I'm trying to install Windows on another drive so that I can use Samsung's software to repair my primary drive, so that I can install Ubuntu on it. However, even after formatting it,
[14:29] <Gallomimia> :O
[14:30] <Gallomimia> bricks are bad, nkay?
[14:30] <remind> I'd just like to be able to play games on Steam using the actual graphics card as well. I remember reading with Bumblebee you use optirun to force it to use the graphics card, but I haven't installed that yet. Will bumblebee use my current drivers installed?
[14:30] <mace_> Guys is there a way to make titlebars transparent in 14.04??
[14:30] <odisa> tried to* turn on my laptop just to check. So, how do I remove GRUB from the hard drive? Windows installer is giving an error about how the drive is MBR and needs to be GPT.
[14:30] <odisa> (This drive had Kubuntu on it btw)
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> mace_  maybe with ccsm or unity-tweak-tool
[14:31] <Gallomimia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee this link seems broken. error 500
[14:31] <mace_> MoneyDust doesnt work on 14.04
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> mace_  both worj here, on my 14.04
[14:32] <BluesKaj> remind, open dash and  type "nvidia". Open "Nvidia x-server settings"
[14:32] <odisa> Gallomimia: Yep.. So any idea on how to clear this drive for a temporary windows install?
[14:32] <Gallomimia> odisa: do you care about anything on that drive?
[14:32] <odisa> Gallomimia: nope
[14:32] <Gallomimia> erase it then.
[14:32] <remind> BluesKaj: Ok
[14:32] <EriC^^> odisa: boot a live ubuntu usb, and create a fresh GPT partition
[14:32] <Gallomimia> it said you need gpt and you have mbr. fix that too
[14:32] <EriC^^> using gparted
[14:33] <Gallomimia> i thought he was using a windows installer... don't they have disk erasing tools in that?
[14:33] <odisa> I formatted the drive to NTFS but I didn't see any option in GParted to change it from MBR to GPT
[14:33] <Gallomimia> ntfs = a filesystem
[14:33] <odisa> Windows installer format didn't fix it either
[14:33] <mace_> MonkeyDust, you sure its titlebars? Because the panel is no problem to make transparent
[14:33] <Gallomimia> mbr and gpt are partitioning schemes. different levels
[14:33] <BluesKaj> remind, then scroll down to :"How to use Prime" here,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-nvidia-prime-gt650m
[14:34] <odisa> Gallomimia: gotcha. So GParted can do this?
[14:34] <EriC^^> odisa: maybe it's under new, i've never used it, you could do sudo gdisk /dev/sdX and press o to create a fresh one
[14:34] <EriC^^> ( get the /dev/sdX part right though )
[14:34] <Gallomimia> sure can.
[14:34] <odisa> thanks EriC^^, I'll try that.
[14:34] <Gallomimia> yeah. any time you are working with sudo, a /dev, and some disk tools, there's a danger of getting it wrong and nuking the wrong disk
[14:34] <EriC^^> maybe new > partition table
[14:34] <EriC^^> or something
[14:35] <odisa> That's what I did in GParted
[14:35] <EriC^^> partition table not partition
[14:35] <odisa> yeah that's what I did I think
[14:35] <odisa> but I'll have another look
[14:35] <Gallomimia> steam is installing on my desktop ^^
[14:35] <EriC^^> ok
[14:36] <EriC^^> odisa: once it's done type sudo parted -l
[14:36] <EriC^^> and it should say what partition table type it is
[14:36] <EriC^^> under disk
[14:36] <odisa> that lists all disks and their partitioning info EriC^^ ?
[14:36] <EriC^^> yeah
[14:37] <Gallomimia> um.... whoa. what's it mean when apt says warning these packages can't be authenticated?
[14:37] <remind> BluesKaj: Thanks for that! Mine is in performance (using the GTX 950M) but the games I play (Dota for example) seem to still be using integrated because of how poor the rendering looks
[14:37] <homa> hi my friends
[14:37] <remind> Mine is in quality, sorry
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> mace_  just looked in both ccsm and unity-tweak, there's no such option
[14:37] <Gallomimia> hi homa
[14:38] <Gallomimia> why does apt tell me somepackages can't be verified??
[14:38] <Gallomimia> authenticated*
[14:38] <remind> Oh wait, no it is performance , bad Windows translation on my part lol
[14:38] <frenk> Hallou
[14:39] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, 3rd party repos?
[14:39] <Gallomimia> nope. gcc is the first listing under the not-authenticated
[14:40] <Gallomimia> also libc6
[14:40] <BluesKaj> remind, what setting are you using in rendering backend , it should be at OpenGL3.1
[14:40] <Gallomimia> this is serious stuff i can't be installing it unverified :/
[14:40] <philinux> Gallomimia;~ try a sudo apt-get update first
[14:40] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: try changing your mirror
[14:40] <odisa> so.. it's now booting without grub, so directly into the BIOS. I think that's a good sign. Created a new GPT partition _table_
[14:40] <Gallomimia> yep just did that...
[14:41] <Gallomimia> okay i will try these things. also i should mention the install was initiated by steam
[14:41] <philinux> Gallomimia;~ try a sudo apt-key update then sudo apt-get update
[14:42] <odisa> hmm.. now Windows installer is telling me: "We couldn't create a new partition or locate an existing one. For more information, see the Setup log files"
[14:42] <odisa> at least it's GPT now..
[14:43] <SchrodingersScat> Gallomimia: I have steam installed, and my apt-cache policy still shows only ubuntu repos, so not sure that's related.  what release are you on?
[14:43] <EriC^^> odisa: try nuking the whole disk
[14:43] <Gallomimia> 14.04
[14:43] <cfhowlett> Gallomimia, ppa?
[14:43] <EriC^^> the mbr i mean
[14:43] <Gallomimia> i don't think so. but it's hitting steampowered with the update
[14:43] <EriC^^> odisa: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1
[14:44] <odisa> EriC^^: nuking? as in shoving it in the microwave? because that's what I've been inclined to do the past few hours.
[14:44] <Gallomimia> no no. that'll certainly make sure it won't work ever again
[14:44] <EriC^^> Gallomimia: nah
[14:44] <odisa> haha I know. EriC^^ what does that do?
[14:45] <Gallomimia> nukes the first sector of the drive you enter where it says sdX
[14:45] <EriC^^> odisa: it overwrites the first 512bytes of the disk ( the bootloader and partition table ) with zeros
[14:45] <EriC^^> then use windows to create a gpt and whatever
[14:46] <Gallomimia> oh the problem i'm having is a lack of DNS connectivity again
[14:46] <axk4545> EriC^^: can I use that to remove an extra copy of grub? I have two disks each with grub and I want only the second to have grub. I would also like them to share a /home.
[14:47] <Gallomimia> axk4545: pretty sure you'll lose the partition map if you do that
[14:47] <remind> BluesKaj: Thank you very much for helping me, I need to leave but I'm hoping you'll be on later or we cross paths soon. Thanks again man
[14:47] <EriC^^> axk4545: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1
[14:47] <EriC^^> for just the mbr, the rest is the partition table
[14:47] <BluesKaj> remind, good luck :-)
[14:47] <EriC^^> *sdX
[14:48] <bekks> 448 is the MBR, 64 the first partition table.
[14:49] <odisa> EriC^^: I'll try that then
[14:49] <axk4545> EriC^^: is there a way to make the two linux installs share a /home and would this cause issues? 1st disk is fedora 23 2nd is Ubuntu 14.04.
[14:49] <cfhowlett> axk4545, yes it is possible.  yes you will have problems.
[14:49] <odisa> axk4545: Tweak I believe it was called.
[14:50] <Gallomimia> axk4545: yes. and yes.
[14:50] <EriC^^> axk4545: yeah, it would cause issues if you used the same user on both installs, cause configs would overlap
[14:50] <odisa> symlinks and all that
[14:50] <EriC^^> if you used separate users, i think it could work
[14:50] <Gallomimia> axk4545: i've seen articles about it. people who do that tend to keep multiple home folders, in the format: username-distro-version