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[09:12] <XioNoX> hi!
[10:41] <armin76> asac: meh, your patch fails to apply
[10:44] <asac> armin76, its against 3.1
[10:44] <asac> you probably can fix it
[10:44] <asac> i am too drunk now to do anything ;)
[10:44] <asac> sorry, thought there were no checkins on that file since 3.0
[10:45] <asac> only thing i had here was mozillla-central :(
[10:45] <asac> cu in a few hours :/
[10:45]  * asac off
[10:49] <armin76> bah
[10:51] <asac> what=
[10:51] <asac> ?
[10:51] <asac> ;)
[10:52]  * asac off for real ;)
[10:52] <armin76> bumb
[10:53] <gnomefreak> morning
[10:54] <gnomefreak> asac: you should be sleeping its like 1:30ish maybe 2:30ish
[10:54] <gnomefreak> make that ~2:00 or around 3am
[10:55]  * gnomefreak hopes they fixed the shut down procedure
[10:58] <gnomefreak> bug 201655
[10:59] <gnomefreak> bug 240093
[11:00] <gnomefreak> armin76: do you speak dutch or german?
[11:15] <armin76> gnomefreak: no, why?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> armin76: i got it it was lang but i didnt read bug fully its says its german (i guess i remembered it seeing as i ask if it was german
[11:25] <gnomefreak> 1 bug down another 500
[11:25] <gnomefreak> to go
[11:29] <gnomefreak> ok smoke i go ;)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: when you are not to busy i have a question about the blog outline you sent me for planet
[11:58] <gnomefreak> bug 240093
[12:13] <armin76> asac: fails to compile
[12:20] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/Tr4nv936.html <- patch, http://rafb.net/p/oGBXee26.html <- log
[12:20] <armin76> uh, sec
[12:21] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/Tr4nv936.html <- patch, http://rafb.net/p/jBqd7x92.html <- log
[13:11] <Jazzva> gnomefreak, I'm here now.
[13:12] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: when you have the letter N what does it mean?
[13:12] <gnomefreak> alpha 5 :(
[13:12] <Jazzva> total number of updates, or extensions, or ...
[13:12] <Jazzva> :)
[13:12] <gnomefreak> and you expect me t o list all of them in the bullets?
[13:13] <Jazzva> for example, we packaged 3 extensions, updated 2, and maintain a total of 5. you would put those numbers instead of N...
[13:13] <gnomefreak> ok ill work on it but i would have figured they can read off the link
[13:13] <Jazzva> off the link?
[13:15] <gnomefreak> yes the link to the list of extensions wiki
[13:16] <Jazzva> I put the links in wiki format where they're needed. maybe I missed someone
[13:16] <Jazzva> but the N should be substituted by a number :)
[13:17] <Jazzva> asac, you didn't push foxyproxy and firefox-sage?
[13:17] <Jazzva> s/push/merged with ~ubuntu-dev/
[13:17] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: example why list these if wiki has them
[13:18] <gnomefreak> A total of N extensions were suggested on [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List] with the following results: * extension1 - ready for packaging * extension2 - denied because of missing license * extension3 - denied because of restrictive license * ...
[13:18] <gnomefreak> they should all be listed on wiki
[13:18] <Jazzva> dunno.. just to keep people updated, if the list is short :)
[13:18] <Jazzva> while we won't list all extensions we maintain... it would be a long post then
[13:18] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: that list will not be short since it covers multiple sections
[13:19] <gnomefreak> also will be very long is
[13:19] <gnomefreak> We have released N extensions to Ubuntu archives: * extension1 - short desc (link to the package? is it irrelevant here?) * extension2 - short desc (----||----) * ...
[13:20] <gnomefreak> we added >10 into archives
[13:20] <Jazzva> I don't suppose that will happen :). Would be nice, though
[13:20] <Jazzva> but you're free to adapt it as you wish :)
[13:20] <gnomefreak> i say we not list each extension but give them link instead and just give a little background
[13:21] <Jazzva> sure thing... :)
[13:28] <gnomefreak> i work on it and post it to mailing list when done
[13:28] <gnomefreak> i have a few things ahead of that atm
[13:35] <gnomefreak> @bansearch
[13:35] <gnomefreak> @bansearch #ubuntu-ops
[13:36] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[13:43] <armin76> @bansearch gnomefreak
[13:43] <armin76> my password is what? :P
[13:43] <armin76> @bansearch gnomefreak!*@*
[13:43] <armin76> bah
[13:43] <gnomefreak> armin76: host mask is after the @
[13:43] <gnomefreak> and you need a channel
[13:46] <gnomefreak> bug 204819
[14:24] <asac> armin76, managed to fix the patch?
[14:25] <armin76> asac: i told you, didn't you read? :P
[14:25] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/Tr4nv936.html <- patch, http://rafb.net/p/jBqd7x92.html <- log
[14:25] <armin76> fix, quick
[14:26] <armin76> @time Canada
[14:26] <armin76> @time Canada/Central
[14:27] <asac> armin76, are you a bot ;)?
[14:27] <asac> try s/PRU/PRu/
[14:27] <asac> no time is:
[14:27] <asac> @time vancouver
[14:27] <asac> so heroic ;)
[14:28] <armin76> lol
[14:28] <asac> i am about to drop to bed again :-P
[14:28] <armin76> you sure that would work?
[14:28] <armin76> the original line was PRU, not PRu
[14:29] <gnomefreak> i so frigging hate email and bugs in email :(
[14:29] <gnomefreak> people dont think
[14:29] <gnomefreak> smoke
[14:30] <asac> huh
[14:30] <XioNoX> asac, seem to be fun Vancouver
[14:31] <asac> armin76, s/PRUI/PRUi/ ;)
[14:31] <asac> XioNoX, it is ... indeed
[14:31] <armin76> ah, fail :P
[14:31] <armin76> that sounds about right
[14:31] <XioNoX> and how was the welcome party ?
[14:32] <asac> amazing ... almost ridiculous
[14:32] <armin76> building
[14:32] <asac> armin76, gogo
[14:33] <XioNoX> asac, you go back to sleep or you have a moment ?
[14:33] <asac> XioNoX, i will go back now (and consider yourself lucky as i wont do any good in my currents state)
[14:35] <XioNoX> ok, i'm progressing, slowly, but i'm progressing
[14:38] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 252793  why is this like this?
[14:43] <gnomefreak> is there a 64bit version of gnash in repos?
[14:51] <Jazzva> asac: ping
[15:04] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm support upgrade from dapper to hardy
[15:04] <gnomefreak> thats scarey
[15:07] <gnomefreak> ha it took me ~4 hours to do email i finally finished
[15:19] <asac_the_bumber> asac: seems to work fine, i'm ircing from it, with a clean profile
[15:19] <asac_the_bumber> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux sparc64; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/2008072913 Firefox/3.0.1
[15:23] <gnomefreak> asac: usr agent string is good in intrepid
[15:23] <gnomefreak> sorry have a defense talk on ultramatix usage atm
[15:25] <asac> asac_the_bumber, good crack ;)
[15:25] <asac> Jazzva, yes?
[15:27] <asac> asac_the_bumber, try to replace the malloc stuff with a stack variable. probably should work as well
[15:28] <Jazzva> asac, just to check... you haven't pushed foxyproxy and firefox-sage yet? Because i got a failedtobuild log for foxyproxy, which got me confuse :)
[15:28] <Jazzva> *confused
[15:29] <asac> armin76, asac_the_bumber, http://paste.ubuntu.com/31743/
[15:29] <asac> Jazzva, you got that FTB log from launchpad?
[15:29] <asac> PPA or real archive?
[15:30] <Jazzva> real archive I think
[15:30] <Jazzva> let me check
[15:30] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foxyproxy
[15:30] <asac> so apparently i uploaded
[15:30] <asac> but i didnt push?
[15:30] <asac> (the branch)?
[15:30] <armin76> asac: now i need to test that one?
[15:31] <Jazzva> asac, I think it's the real archive
[15:32] <asac> armin76, if you could that would be highly appreciated
[15:33] <armin76> asac: sure
[15:33] <asac> Jazzva, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu
[15:33] <Jazzva> asac, that was the previous that you pushed few days ago
[15:33] <asac> i think thats the latest isnt it?
[15:33] <asac> so 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 is outdated?
[15:34] <Jazzva> asac, there are two more revisions after which fix the FTBFS you reported to me few days ago
[15:34] <Jazzva> hmm...
[15:34] <Jazzva> that means I have to add -0ubuntu2?
[15:34] <Jazzva> since -0ubuntu1 is pushed
[15:35] <asac> Jazzva, ok. if you give me a list of extensions i should upload, Ill do that after breakfast
[15:35] <asac> ;)
[15:35] <Jazzva> no hurry, if you don't have time :)
[15:35] <asac> i have time ... just after breakfast ;)
[15:35] <Jazzva> ok
[15:35] <Jazzva> there are two of them :)
[15:35] <asac> merging and pushing extension shouldnt take that long ;)
[15:35] <asac_the_bumber> io
[15:35] <Jazzva> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/firefox-sage.ubuntu
[15:35] <asac> only two ;)
[15:36] <Jazzva> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu
[15:36] <Jazzva> yeaaah... i still haven't tested wizzrss *ashamed*
[15:36]  * asac wonders how we can easily get a list of branches with merge requests
[15:36] <Jazzva> look for mature branches? we can use that state :)
[15:36] <Jazzva> i try to set them to mature once they should be merged
[15:36] <asac> Jazzva, hmmm
[15:37] <Jazzva> anyway... since -0ubuntu1 is now in the archives
[15:37] <Jazzva> I need to publish 0ubuntu2 for foxyproxy :)
[15:37] <asac> launchpad should provide a way to search for that imo
[15:37] <asac> Jazzva, right
[15:37] <asac> Jazzva, the procedure is:
[15:37] <asac> checkout current release.
[15:37] <Jazzva> IIRC, you haven't uploaded firefox-sage, so that should be cool :)
[15:37] <asac> one commit that opens a new changelog entry (empty + UNRELEASED)
[15:38] <asac> then commit fixes accompanied with changelog entries
[15:38] <asac> when done close changelog by running dch -r -Dintrepid
[15:38] <Jazzva> then dch -r and push :)
[15:38] <asac> yeah ;)
[15:38] <asac> Jazzva, you got it :-D
[15:38] <Jazzva> dch -r should work without -D if you're in intrepid
[15:38] <asac> Jazzva, a good thing is the debcommit command
[15:38] <asac> so you comment your changes in changelog and just run: "debcommit"
[15:38] <Jazzva> (which I'm updating to... today? if I go and pay internet for the next month)
[15:38] <Jazzva> :D
[15:39] <asac> it will automatically use your changelog changes as the commit message
[15:39] <Jazzva> uuuu :)
[15:39] <Jazzva> that's usefule :)
[15:39] <Jazzva> -e
[15:39] <asac> Jazzva, yes. it should work without -D :)
[15:39] <asac> Jazzva, just try debcommit. i found about that only recently and worked great here
[15:39] <Jazzva> btw, I have set up a manual for update in Packaging page
[15:40] <Jazzva> so check if it's good. I use it, and it works for me
[15:40] <asac> thats good
[15:40] <asac> where is it?
[15:40] <Jazzva> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Packaging
[15:40] <asac> is it properly linked from the "main" extension pages
[15:40] <asac> ?
[15:40] <Jazzva> It should appear in contents :)
[15:40] <Jazzva> well... main MozillaTeam has now a section that points to main Extensions page
[15:40] <Jazzva> which has a section that points to Packaging page for new packaging and updates :)
[15:41] <Jazzva> you might want to check them out in your free time. Volans and I worked a bit on them few days ago...
[15:41] <asac> Jazzva, why do we have "In case your extension was released to Ubuntu archive, merge it with ~ubuntu-dev's branch. " ?
[15:42] <asac> unless one already has done more work you usually just want to start from the current ~ubuntu-dev branch
[15:42] <asac> e.g. dump your private branch and use ~ubuntu-dev as base
[15:42] <Jazzva> asac> Jazzva, the procedure is:
 checkout current release.
[15:42] <Jazzva> well... merge with ~ubuntu-dev should make it to be the same as ubuntu-dev... right?
[15:43] <asac> Jazzva, not always
[15:43] <asac> but in most cases you are right.
[15:44] <Jazzva> hmm... so it should be bzr branch ~mybranch; rm -rf mybranc/*; bzr branch ~ubuntudev; cp -r ubuntudeb/* mybranch; bzr add *; bzr commit;?
[15:44] <Jazzva> sorry for typos
[15:45] <asac> err
[15:45] <asac> i thinkg thats wrong? why do you do cp -r?
[15:45] <Jazzva> to copy the contents of ubuntu-dev's branch to mine
[15:45] <Jazzva> it shouldn't copy .bzr dir, as far as I know
[15:45] <Jazzva> (at least it didn't for me... I think)
[15:46] <asac> still dont get why you want to copy the files there?
[15:46] <asac> imo step "#
[15:46] <asac> #
[15:46] <asac> Branch your ubuntu branch. " should read "branch the ubuntu-dev branch"
[15:47] <Jazzva> and then commit in ubuntu-dev's branch?
[15:47] <Jazzva> and then push to mine?
[15:47] <Jazzva> will it get revisions in order? for example, ubuntu-dev is currently at 8, I commit rev 9. then push to my branch which is currently at 17. will it get at 18?
[15:47] <asac> Jazzva, yes. you branch ubuntu-dev, then work as if its yours, commit, etc. and in the end push to your branch with --overwrite
[15:47] <Jazzva> ah...
[15:47] <asac> or to a new name
[15:47] <asac> or whatever
[15:48] <Jazzva> new name would be pollution :)...
[15:48] <asac> then request merging
[15:48] <Jazzva> ok... i'll check with overwrite
[15:48] <asac> Jazzva, right. i think overwrite should be ok.
[15:49] <asac> but new name would be ok as well as long as the user remembers to mark his last contribution as "merged"
[15:49] <Jazzva> hmm... ok, now I'll try to do it my way, in order not to have to repeate my changes again :)
[15:49] <asac> sure
[15:50] <Jazzva> (what's with my typing now? s/repeate/repeat/)
[15:50] <asac> hehe
[15:51] <Jazzva> debcommit is cool :)
[15:54] <asac_the_bumber> ASAC: nedokáže uplatňovat, upevnění a rekonstrukci
[15:54] <asac_the_bumber> lol
[15:54] <asac_the_bumber> asac: fails to apply, fixing and rebuilding
[15:55] <asac> asac_the_bumber, its still against mozilla-central
[15:55] <asac> i dont have any other tree here ;)
[15:55] <asac_the_bumber> fail :P
[15:55] <asac> nope. i work for the future ;)
[15:55] <asac> success
[15:55] <asac> :P
[15:56] <Jazzva> asac, done :)
[15:57] <asac_the_bumber> asac : انت بطء
[15:57] <asac> asac_the_bumber, so it works?
[15:57] <Jazzva> hmm... i can't propose firefox-sage for merging. This is the first upload that uses bzr for management
[15:58] <Jazzva> asac: so we still don't have ~ubuntu-dev's branch for it
[15:58] <armin76> asac: wait, it didn't even unpack yet :P
[15:58] <asac> Jazzva, yes. thats ok. i think the procedure for "new" branches is just to file a bug against firefox-extensions
[15:58] <Jazzva> I think I filed it...
[15:58] <asac> armin76, you do a full respin?
[15:58] <asac_the_bumber> >>> Unpacking mozilla-firefox-3.0.1.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.0.1/work
[15:58] <armin76> yeah, i have to
[15:58] <asac> thought you would just change that file and run make again ;)
[15:58] <Jazzva> asac, yeah... bug 251156
[15:58] <armin76> nope, the dir is always cleaned unless you say so
[15:58] <asac> Jazzva, most likely you did. i dont have access to emails anymore :(
[15:59] <Jazzva> meh... stupid e-mails :)
[15:59] <asac> armin76, which i am always saying for my builds (bzr bd --merge --dont-purge ...) ;)
[15:59] <Jazzva> I think I'll be off for a while.  I need internet access... and for my school, too...
[16:02] <XioNoX> asac, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/503074 the function "clearTest()", can you look at it a second please ?
[16:02]  * asac looks before heading to breakfast
[16:03] <asac> XioNoX, so what do you want me to look at?
[16:04] <XioNoX> the cleartest function should clear all the content of the richlistbox
[16:04] <XioNoX> but it didn't
[16:04] <XioNoX> http://developer.mozilla.org/fr/docs/DOM:element.removeChild
[16:05] <asac> XioNoX, have you looked into error console if you see anything there?
[16:05] <XioNoX> nothing
[16:05] <XioNoX> stay empty
[16:06] <asac> oh damn you are still reading french documentation :-P
[16:08] <XioNoX> if there are french version, i read french version :D
[16:10] <asac> XioNoX, did you try to code this in small steps? you can also use window.alert(...) to debug
[16:10] <asac> e.g. does tyour code really reach that place and so on
[16:10] <asac> one good thing is to wrap all the code in a try { ... } catch (e) { alert ('error catched: ' + e); }
[16:10] <asac> to see if there is an exception
[16:11] <asac> for instance: arent variables supposed to be declared?
[16:11] <asac> e.g. var myvariable = "test1234"
[16:11] <asac> instead of
[16:11] <asac> myvariable ="test1234"
[16:11] <asac> ?
[16:12] <XioNoX> it is working for the test function
[16:12] <XioNoX> the first one
[16:13] <XioNoX> ho no
[16:13] <XioNoX> !!
[16:13] <XioNoX> i've forget the word "function"
[16:13] <XioNoX> before clearTest()
[16:13] <asac> see ;)
[16:13] <asac> XioNoX, anyway. if you didnt see any errors you probably use a debug build in future
[16:14] <asac> use --enable-debug --disable-optimize configure flags
[16:14] <XioNoX> it is working now
[16:14] <asac> that should give you plenty of output in error cases on the console
[16:14] <asac> good
[16:14] <XioNoX> ok
[16:14] <XioNoX> thanks
[16:14] <XioNoX> it is about the last function
[16:14] <XioNoX> now
[16:15] <asac> hehe
[16:15] <asac> have fun
[16:15] <XioNoX> I'll make it working
[16:15] <asac> i have to dress and get some food
[16:15] <XioNoX> eat fast, eat liquid :D
[16:15] <asac> hopefully that fixes my tough headache :(
[16:15] <asac> oh .. please no more liquids ;) ... i had enough of those yesterday
[16:16] <XioNoX> :D
[16:20] <XioNoX> have a good day
[16:54] <asac_the_bumber> bumb
[16:55] <armin76> asac: if it doesn't crash it works
[17:12] <armin76> asac: oops, it sigbused
[17:15] <armin76> asac: i'll try with the previous patch
[17:46] <asac_the_bumber> asac: that was weird, i removed the profile and for 20 mins it didn't crash, we'll see...
[17:49] <asac_the_bumber> 双bumb
[17:57] <asac> armin76, same place?
[18:06] <armin76> asac: no idea, didn't run gdb on it
[18:06] <armin76> but as you see, it doesn't seem to sigbus now
[18:07] <armin76> ah...
[18:07] <armin76> there it goes :P
[18:09] <armin76> running with gdb now
[18:28] <asac> armin76, same place?
[18:28] <asac> @time
[18:28] <asac> ok i am here
[18:29] <asac> Jazzva, you didnt request merging on the foxyproxy.ubuntu branch?
[18:30] <asac> oh ... you did. its just hidden on the main page
[18:30] <Volans> yes he did, I received the email...
[18:31] <Volans> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/foxyproxy.ubuntu/+merge/586
[18:32] <Jazzva> Thanks, Volans :)
[18:32] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/LEkoto49.html
[18:33] <armin76> asac: will try with the previous patch
[18:33] <Jazzva> anyone on intrepid here? is it relatively stable :)?
[18:33] <Volans> Jazzva: my pleasure :)
[18:33] <Jazzva> (relatively == a glitch here and there is just fine :))
[18:34] <asac> Jazzva, i used intrepid when i left
[18:35] <asac> it worked back then
[18:35] <Jazzva> hmm... and alpha3 sounds stable enough :)
[18:35] <asac> definitly
[18:36] <armin76> asac: lies, it didn't, it crashed after you left :P
[18:36] <Jazzva> (btw, i think i moved over on alpha 4 in prev release, and on alpha 5 on release before that. I just hope I won't move on 10.04+1 on the day 10.04 gets out :))
[18:36] <asac> Jazzva, i think fta does it that way all the time ;)
[18:36] <asac> and gnomefreak as well
[18:37] <Jazzva> crazy... crazy, I tells ya :)
[18:37] <Jazzva> ok, maybe when I get a new computer just for myself. maybe then :)
[18:37] <Jazzva> but for now, while my sister needs this computer too, i'm too scared to do that jump :)
[18:38] <asac> Jazzva, oh. you are running a shared computer
[18:38] <asac> nice
[18:38] <asac> better dont upgrade on first day then ;)
[18:39] <Jazzva> heh :)
[18:39] <Jazzva> I suppose I'll get new one in the next month or two :)
[18:46] <Jazzva> Started upgrade to intrepid. Off to do some stuff around home.
[18:50] <asac> hmm
[18:50] <asac> Bug 231472
[18:51] <asac> i think we should do something about files not owned by the user itself in the profile
[18:52] <asac> armin76, so what is going on with this patch?
[18:52] <asac> why would the 2nd version not work?
[19:02] <armin76> asac: eh? i posted you the backtrace
[19:03] <armin76> lol
[19:08] <asac> i think i lost conneciton
[19:08] <asac> reed, you managed to high-jack your nick on freenode?
[19:08] <asac> congrats then :-D
[19:09] <armin76> god
[19:09] <armin76> asac: stop crashing when i answer to you!
[19:09] <armin76> asac: i said: eh? i posted you the backtrace
[19:09] <reed> asac: trying to get it dropped now
[19:18] <armin76> asac: poke
[19:21] <asac_the_bumber> i'm asac the bumber!
[19:23]  * Nafallo raises a couple of eyebrows
[19:23] <asac> reed, go ahead ;)
[19:24] <asac> armin76, please give me an update
[19:24] <asac> 1st patch works, 2nd doesnt?
[19:24] <asac_the_bumber> asac: correct
[19:25] <asac_the_bumber> i贴在你回溯的第二
[19:25] <asac_the_bumber> bah
[19:25] <armin76> asac: i pasted you the backtrace of the second
[19:25] <armin76> the first...maybe it sigbuses as well, i didn't ran it the same time as the 2nd, doing it now
[19:28] <asac> and where is the backtrace of the cras with the 2nd?
[19:28] <asac> i didnt get it here - most likely because of flaky connection
[19:29] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/LEkoto49.html
[19:29] <asac> armin76, thats a different place
[19:32] <asac> armin76, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/toolkit/components/url-classifier/src/nsUrlClassifierDBService.cpp#289
[19:32] <asac> there is nothing at that line
[19:32] <asac> can you give me the matching line in mxr?
[19:32] <asac> e.g. what is in line 289 in your sources?
[19:33] <asac_the_bumber> sec
[19:35] <asac_the_bumber> asac:    , mAddChunkId(0)
[19:36] <armin76> same in mxr
[19:37] <asac> k
[19:38] <armin76> asac: took 45 mins to sigbus with a clean profile with the second patch
[19:38] <armin76> atm its 20 mins
[19:40] <armin76> so it should sigbus around 21:05 gmt+2
[19:43] <asac> armin76, 45 minutes isnt that bad
[19:49] <asac> i dont understand that crash for now
[19:51] <asac> the only thing that sounds wierd is that its mAddChunkId
[19:53] <asac> which is basically the same variable we just touched to fix the other sigbus
[19:53] <asac> so they appear to be related somewhat
[19:59] <asac_the_bumber> itz the final countdown
[20:01] <asac> hehe
[20:01] <asac> asac_the_bumber, let m eknow
[20:01] <armin76> sure
[20:01] <asac> i doubt that this crash is really reproducible
[20:01] <asac> at least not with the initial patch ;)
[20:02] <asac_the_bumber> we'll see
[20:04] <asac> reed, please fix the slow internet here :(
[20:04] <reed> asac: reconnect
[20:04] <reed> only one AP was working
[20:05] <reed> fixed now
[20:05] <reed> get a different AP
[20:05] <Nafallo> hmm
[20:05] <reed> and it'll be fast
[20:05] <asac> ah
[20:05] <Nafallo> I should probably not say I'm on gig now then? ;-)
[20:05] <asac> Nafallo, no that is not really nice
[20:06] <asac> reed, you have a good bssid?
[20:06] <Nafallo> I need to call EOD and get back home to my silly 4/1Mbps anyway :-/
[20:06] <asac> so i can force myself on a better ap
[20:06] <reed> asac: nope
[20:06] <reed> just "not the one you're on"
[20:06] <asac> reed, which bssid are you on?
[20:07] <asac> anyway. lunch now :/
[20:07] <reed> 00:15:6D:A6:31:DA
[20:11] <armin76> asac: ^
[21:11] <armin76> asac: it crashed
[21:11] <asac> same way?
[21:13] <armin76> let me check
[21:13] <armin76> reed: why wasn't i invited? :(
[21:14] <reed> dunno... not my call... mh from Debian wasn't invited, either
[21:14] <reed> and I wanted him invited
[21:14] <armin76> but i'm more useful than asac! :D
[21:15] <reed> lol
[21:15] <armin76> but Debian doesn't ship firefox anyway :P
[21:26] <armin76> asac: http://rafb.net/p/0BIkkm94.html
[21:58] <asac> armin76, ok, so its the same bug.
[21:58] <asac> armin76, anyway. if its after 45 minutes then i can live with it ;)
[21:58] <armin76> lol
[21:58] <armin76> but after it crashes the first time, then its 5 mins unless you clean the profile, i think
[21:58] <asac> the other sigbus happened right in the beginning?
[21:59] <asac> hmm
[21:59] <armin76> i wonder what it does exactly at 45 mins :)
[22:01] <asac> armin76, most likely the safebrowsing database reaches a certain size
[22:11] <Jazzva> asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/firefox-sage.ubuntu/+merge/589 ... Build failed because of missing zip build-dependency...
[22:11] <Jazzva> Sorry to bother you again :)
[22:36] <bfiller> asac_the_2nd: does ubufox extension have the capability to set a thunderbird preference or just firefox preference?
[22:36] <asac_the_2nd> bfiller, ubufox is not used for thunderbird
[22:36] <asac_the_2nd> why?
[22:37] <bfiller> asac_the_2nd: trying to set a default thunderbird pref for a customer and wanted to know easiest way to go about without having to rebuild
[22:38] <Volans> bfiller: surely enigmail do that ;)
[22:38] <bfiller> Volans: I'm not familiar with that. Is it a thunderbird extension?
[22:39] <Volans> sure, http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
[22:39] <bfiller> Volans: thanks
[22:39] <Volans> is a big one, so maybe is more difficult to find
[22:39] <Volans> the specific point
[22:39] <Volans> but I don't use extensions on TB so I don't have other suggestion for you
[22:40] <asac_the_2nd> bfiller, you can just make a "customer" package that puts a preference in the proper folder
[22:40] <bfiller> asac_the_2nd: you mean like a prefs.js in their profile directory?
[22:41] <asac_the_2nd> bfiller, look in /usr/share/thunderbird/defaults/pref/
[22:41] <asac_the_2nd> just make a package that just ships a single file "special-pref.js" in that directory
[22:41] <bfiller> asac_the_2nd: excellent, that sounds easy. thanks
[22:41] <asac_the_2nd> or if you want it to be changeable by admins you can put it in/etc/thunderbird/pref/
[22:45] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd, you might have disconnected when I sent you the message
 asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/firefox-extensions/firefox-sage.ubuntu/+merge/589 ... Build failed because of missing zip build-dependency...
[22:46] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd ^
[22:46] <asac_the_2nd> again?
[22:46] <Jazzva> Anyway, I might be going off soon. Haven't paid the bill for the internet. Stupid provider decided not to work full-time, because of some protest that's going on downtown
[22:46] <asac_the_2nd> can you properly test it next time ;)
[22:46] <asac_the_2nd> argh
[22:46] <Jazzva> no, this is first time for firefox-sage :)
[22:46] <asac_the_2nd> ah ok
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> still ;)
[22:47] <Jazzva> agreed :)
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> but no problem
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> how long will you be away?
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> its not really urgent i guess
[22:47] <Jazzva> I thought mozilla-devscripts depend on zip... :)
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva, we probably should add that. but for now it doesnt use zip
[22:47] <asac_the_2nd> just unzip
[22:47] <Jazzva> umm... until tomorrow... morning? afternoon?
[22:47] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd, we should, for med-xpi-pack :)
[22:48] <Jazzva> I will add it tomorrow. Waiting for intrepid download to finish. wouldn't like to lose the net before that :)
[22:48] <asac_the_2nd> sure
[22:49] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva, good luck in case you went off
[22:49] <asac_the_2nd> ;)
[22:49] <Jazzva> (but I might be lucky and get the internet for another day. You never know the meaning of day in case of my provider... 30. july might easily be 31. july)
[22:49] <Jazzva> thanks :)
[22:49] <asac_the_2nd> lol
[22:50] <asac_the_2nd> so they give you a warning that they will turn it off?
[22:50] <asac_the_2nd> and you have no chance to prevent that from happening after that notice
[22:50] <asac_the_2nd> funny provider
[22:50] <Jazzva> well. you have a chance. to pay :)
[22:51] <asac_the_2nd> yeah but not after notice apparently
[22:51] <fta> asac_the_2nd, i've updated sm1
[22:51] <Jazzva> it's just that until recently the only way to get flat package is to pay for it in advance, and then it lasts for 30 days. And I used to pay for the next month on the last day (or the day before) of the current package
[22:52] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva, how much is your subscription?
[22:52] <Jazzva> but, they couldn't post the notice of shorter work-time for today on their site of forum... they posted it on their door. argh.
[22:52] <fta> asac_the_2nd, branch pushed, it's also building in my ppa
[22:52] <Jazzva> a bit over 25e
[22:52] <asac_the_2nd> fta, which branch?
[22:52] <asac_the_2nd> sorry, i dont have email anymore :(
[22:52] <fta> seamonkey-1.1.dev
[22:53] <fta> the most up-to-date one
[22:53] <asac_the_2nd> fta, did we have any issues with tbird ?
[22:53] <fta> i think
[22:53] <fta> tb ? no idea, i'm not following that
[22:53] <asac_the_2nd> fta, but you packaged the alphas?
[22:53] <fta> yes
[22:53] <asac_the_2nd> wasnt there something with packager or something?
[22:53] <fta> yes
[22:54] <asac_the_2nd> does this all boil down to "xulrunner" support?
[22:54] <asac_the_2nd> or is that about something different?
[22:54] <fta> i remember the make install mess
[22:55] <fta> but apparently, extension doesn't work in my tb3 builds
[22:55] <asac_the_2nd> fta, right. but i think i remember that they havent been cooperative when you approached them
[22:55] <fta> (extensionS don't work)
[22:56] <asac_the_2nd> ok. why?
[22:56] <asac_the_2nd> do we know that?
[22:57] <fta> i don't, but i really didn't have a close look.
[22:57] <fta> i'm still not done with my work
[22:58] <asac_the_2nd> fta, ok all fine
[22:58] <fta> i saw you accepted someone new in the team ?
[22:58] <asac_the_2nd> fta, yes, jamie from the security team. we can disable his account again
[22:58] <fta> ?
[22:58] <asac_the_2nd> i just asked him to push his changelog entry he released to -security
[22:59] <fta> hm
[22:59] <asac_the_2nd> fta, he had to respin xulrunner as he couldnt push xulrunner to -securty from -updates
[23:02] <asac_the_2nd> fta, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:02] <asac_the_2nd> same for xulrunner
[23:02] <Jazzva> yay... intrepid downloaded... now they can cut me off :D
[23:02] <asac_the_2nd> hehe
[23:02] <Jazzva> (in case they want to cut me off... sorry for spam :))
[23:03] <asac_the_2nd> better complete the upgrade
[23:03] <asac_the_2nd> so you can still fix things
[23:03] <Jazzva> i'm an optimist... no things will be broken (as time passes by, my optimism drops :))
[23:04] <asac_the_2nd> hehe
[23:14] <Jazzva> looks like i'm lucky. yay :)
[23:17] <asac> Jazzva, they wont cut you off ... or your upgrade works?
[23:18] <Jazzva> looks like it's both :)
[23:18] <Jazzva> I will get some unresolved dep issues later, though...
[23:22]  * asac moves rooms
[23:48] <bdrung> Jazzva: i am working on packaging pwdhash and now on this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/LargeScaleMaintenance
[23:49] <bdrung> i never used bazaar before. can you help me with this?
[23:49] <Jazzva> bdrung, LargeScaleMaintenance is still not active. It's more a description of a future procedure
[23:49] <Jazzva> sure :)
[23:49] <Jazzva> we use bzr for packaging...
[23:49] <Jazzva> ask your question :)
[23:49] <bdrung> asac asked for in https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions/+bug/216892
[23:50] <Jazzva> give me a sec to check it out
[23:53] <bdrung> how do i create a stanford-pwdhash.upstream branch?
[23:53] <bdrung> can i put there the upstream tarball instead of the xpi file?
[23:54] <Volans> bdrung: you have to put the source files, not the tarball or xpi
[23:54] <bdrung> k
[23:54] <Jazzva> bdrung, general packaging manual is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Packaging
[23:54] <Volans> and a Bazaar in 5 minutes tutorial is here: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html ;)
[23:55] <Jazzva> Basically, you create an upstream branch, which will contain the clean upstream source
[23:55] <Jazzva> then you branch XPI.TEMPLATE (which contains template debian/ directory)
[23:55] <Volans> bdrung: have you never used a versioning system like CVS, SVN, git or similar?
[23:55] <bdrung> svn
[23:56] <Jazzva> Branch your upstream branch, copy debian/ from xpi.template to it, then name that as .ubuntu branch
[23:56] <bdrung> mostly via eclipse
[23:56] <Jazzva> and then you apply all changes you need to make to the debian/ template and test it :)
[23:56] <Jazzva> bdmurray, if you have used svn, this should be easy
[23:56] <Volans> ok, bzr is similar, but is not server-based, you can have local branches
[23:57] <Volans> Jazzva: this can be a good test for your packaging guide ;)
[23:57] <Jazzva> Volans, I think asac did the packaging guide
[23:57] <Jazzva> I did the update guide ;)
[23:58] <Volans> ah...ops :) I know that you have updated it so I have supposed you have made it the first time
[23:58] <Jazzva> bdrung, if you bump into a problem, ask for help. I'm sure I'll be around for 2 or 3 hours...
[23:58] <bdrung> there is no upstream branch of pwdhash, or?
[23:58] <Jazzva> bdrung, you need to create it
[23:59] <bdrung> how?
[23:59] <Jazzva> hmm... does upstream provide a build script?
[23:59] <Jazzva> or are you making it from xpi?
[23:59] <Jazzva> *making the package from xpi?
[23:59] <bdrung> from tarball
[23:59] <Jazzva> which has a build script?