[00:38] <wxl> present for you @The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/yolzyo.png
[00:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: Do you want to do the EOL announcement for 18.10?
[00:47] <tsimonq2> I know you were looking forward to writing a LXQt > LXDE announcement.
[00:47] <tsimonq2> Now's your chance, because as of July 18th, we only support 18.04 and 19.04.
[00:49] <wxl> well i mean it could come at any time i guess
[00:49] <tsimonq2> That's what I mean.
[00:50] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm asking if you want to write it or if you want me to.
[00:50] <tsimonq2> Either is fine, I just need to know if you're not going to.
[00:51] <wxl> i'll do the lxqt/lxde thing if you wanna do the eol announcement
[00:52] <tsimonq2> What I'm saying is, we should combine it into one announcement which basically says "as of July 18th, the only two releases we support are 18.04 and 19.04. You should really really use LXQt, in fact, we have a CI PPA for NON-PRODUCTION use."
[00:52] <tsimonq2> That would be a tl;dr
[00:52] <tsimonq2> Whoever writes it would go into detail as to why LXQt is better.
[00:53] <tsimonq2> I know you can list quite a few reasons off the top of your head. I would need to do some research.
[00:53] <tsimonq2> That's why I'm asking if you want to JFDI the announcement. :)
[00:53] <tsimonq2> *JFD I guess :P
[00:53] <wxl> i just don't see the two as being so intracately linked. i wouldn't put them together
[00:54] <tsimonq2> I understand they aren't intricately linked, but it'd be cool to say "oh by the way, here's why you should really just install 19.04 if you had to pick"
[00:56] <tsimonq2> If we don't do the announcements together, how far apart should we space them?
[00:56] <wxl> like i said, it could come at any time. it doesn't really matter
[00:56] <wxl> the issue is as relevant now as it will be after
[00:57] <wxl> it's relevant until 18.04 doesn't exist
[00:57] <tsimonq2> I look at it like this, too: people are going to read the EOL announcement anyway.
[00:57] <tsimonq2> If we don't roll it into the EOL announcement, we really should roll it into the 19.10 announcement.
[00:58] <tsimonq2> I don't know if it'd work to have it be its own thing.
[00:58] <wxl> that makes a little more sense
[00:58] <tsimonq2> Let's go with that, then.
[00:58] <wxl> it totally would work to be on its own
[00:58] <wxl> just like pcman's original blog post
[00:59] <tsimonq2> We aren't announcing anything new, though.
[01:00] <wxl> it doesn't matter
[01:00] <wxl> to a lot of people it is new
[01:00] <wxl> it's nothing new that to make super key shortcuts in openbox work in 19.04, you need to undefine the super key shortcut for the menu in lxqt-globalkeys. but tons of people still ask about it
[01:01] <tsimonq2> Fair.
[01:16] <wxl> @tsimonq2: didn't you upload the libfm-qt SRU?
[01:17] <tsimonq2> I did.
[01:17] <tsimonq2> It hasn't been accepted yet, though.
[01:17] <tsimonq2> So no tag.
[01:18] <wxl> i don't see it in proposed though
[01:18] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+publishinghistory
[01:18] <wxl> did you only land it in git and not upload it to the archive?
[01:19] <wxl> and actually for that matter i don't see anything in git https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/
[01:33] <wxl> oh i guess there's this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/browse/ubuntu%252Fdisco/
[01:34] <wxl> you just didn't upload it to the archive it seems
 wxl, @tsimonq2 just installed the latest update on eoan, nm-tray now use nm-conection-editor
 if you upgrade your system you can check
 @HMollerCl [wxl, @tsimonq2 just installed the latest update on eoan, nm-tray now use nm-cone …], Sweeet
 Screenshot?
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://i.imgur.com/kC5hMJb.jpg
 @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], NICE
[02:03] <wxl> @tsimonq2: what about libfm-qt aas aforementioned?
 wxl: The SRU team has to accept it before it shows up in disco-proposed
 It uploaded just fine, it's just in the queue
[02:11] <wxl> weird
 That's procedure :)
[02:20] <wxl> ugh correct me if i'm wrong but ~lubuntu-packaging isn't subscribed to pcmanfm-qt or libfm-qt?
 That's a good question
[02:26] <wxl> does anyone want a super annoying but super helpful job? pleeez
 Which?
[02:27] <wxl> make sure we're subscribed to all of our packages :/
[02:29] <wxl> compare https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+packagebugs or https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+structural-subscriptions with https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/disco/lubuntu
[02:34] <wxl> i need a list of all the packages in the packageset that are not subscribed to
[02:34] <wxl> so i can subscribe them all
[02:34] <wxl> the two launchpad links SHOULD be the same
 wxl, did you want the delta beteen the 2 lists?
 i.e. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FgRfZ63s8J/
[03:18] <wxl> @DarinMiller that would be great thanks. might be a bit to parse through it all but that would be excellent. to make things easier i want to make sure all of the packages in the packagelist are subscribed to. i don't care if there are extra subscriptions that much
 The link above lists the "uncommon" packages...
[03:23] <wxl> i guess the question is which direction
 Ok, here is the other direction: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q3s9z5vYXX/
[03:24] <wxl> oh and that packageset link should use eoan and not disco
[03:24] <wxl> THAT's the one i'm looking for
[03:24] <wxl> what the smurfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff i swear i fixed lubuntu-meta
[03:24] <wxl> thanks Darin :)
 np :)
 Used Libre Calc and vlookup....
[03:27] <wxl> speaking of things that drive me crazy https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-18-04-pcmanfm-1-2-5-pdf-thumbnail-previews/161
 bug or PEBKAC?
 nm, I just saw your repsonse...
[03:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4c8ddbc0be32: Add go to last tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4c8ddbc0be32
[03:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a7092543639: Add First tab to featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a7092543639
 @wxl [<wxl> present for you @The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/yolzyo.png], Thanks!
 @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], Noiiice!!
 @HMollerCl I see the small light bulb in in system tray in your system. Is it redshift?
 Afaik, we don't have any night light filter present in lubuntu by default right? I would like to volunteer to port redshift-gtk to qt.
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/PWn0BSk.jpg
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<reply to image>], @HMollerCl  I guess the black border shouldn't be there. correct me if I am wrong.
[10:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Calamares: Address security issue related to FDE] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87#1364
 @tsimonq2 @teward001 ^^^^
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl I see the small light bulb in in system tray in your system. Is it re …], Yes, redshift. It would be nice if you port it. I can help you in something but is mostly signals and slots
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl  I guess the black border shouldn't be there. correct me if I am wron …], Yes, shouldn't be there, that's strange
 @HMollerCl [Yes, redshift. It would be nice if you port it. I can help you in something but …], I will start on it once I finish the current tasks. Also, I haven't ported anything earlier. I will definitely need your help.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I will start on it once I finish the current tasks. Also, I haven't ported anyth …], Np
 https://cython.org/ I wonder If wec ould use this to convert applet.py (printer applet) to c++ to free some resources
[15:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL236e2f680fae: Add scrollwheel to scroll in qterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL236e2f680fae
 @lynorian since in 19.10 the conection editor will be changed, we need to modify the manual.
[15:16] <lynorian> @hmollerCl ack
[15:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL60b0fb5a42b6: Add go to bottom] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL60b0fb5a42b6
[15:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb955fb16c7b2: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb955fb16c7b2
[15:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL58b6829625ce: Add show tab bar to qterminal] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL58b6829625ce
[16:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbbaa2579158c: Add chaing side of such tab layout] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbbaa2579158c
 @aptghetto [@tsimonq2 @teward001 ^^^^], saw your comment, but for the most part this'd need fixes elsewhere.
[16:58] <wxl> this is insanity. not sure if anyone else has insight https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-18-04-pcmanfm-1-2-5-pdf-thumbnail-previews/161
[19:44] <wxl> @tsimonq2: correct me if i'm wrong but it looks like lxqt-globalkeys is using a hardcoded location for xdg dirs https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/search?q=xdg&unscoped_q=xdg
 configFiles.push_back(QStringLiteral("/etc/xdg/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf"));
[20:05] <wxl> yeah that seems hardcoded to me, no?
 yes, but inside an if
 is there an else?
 It should really read the env variable
 The way I see it it only does that if there is no ".config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf"
 it's a fallback
 https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/blob/e50c4d40a3781f77e66d965ca4dc381b0bb79370/daemon/main.cpp#L238
[21:30] <wxl> @HMollerCl that test for configFiles.empty() is just a check to see whether or not anything was passed in the command line. see 156-8 and 68
 what does .push_back() does? becasue after the if it uses it again. if it's an assignment it will be overrided. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/blob/e50c4d40a3781f77e66d965ca4dc381b0bb79370/daemon/main.cpp#L242
 aaa it loads the xdg and then the ~ file
 you can ask agaida...
 Hey! wxl: about updating D18, I am going on a trek tomorrow morning so I will be busy for the weekend but I will try to do it as soon as possible.  … Also, can you send another icon of the lubuntu logo? The one you sent yesterday, is a bit large. I tried resizing it to 200x200 pixels but the blue circle around the hummingbird
[21:45] <wxl> @HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qlist.html#push_back
[21:45] <wxl> tl;dr it appends
[21:45] <wxl> but that's only because you can keep calling config files on the command line and it will append to the list
[21:45] <wxl> so it loads the hardcoded xdg rather than traversing the actual paths specified in the xdg variables
 yup
 but is the same path we use
[21:47] <wxl> i was searching for where the configFiles class was defined until i saw it was a QStringList
 but, it only loads if ~/.config/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf doesn't exist
 L240
[21:50] <wxl> @HMollerCl according to https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/xdg/ (i just restored this), there's also /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu to consider
 yes, but we don't use if for sortcuts
[21:51] <wxl> well and /usr/share/Lubuntu it seems
[21:51] <TJ-> that code doesn't seem to make sense; it adds DEFAULT_CONFIG regardless of whether it exists, but only adds the system config if the user config doesn't exist. Why would it add a non-existant file?
 @TJ- [<TJ-> that code doesn't seem to make sense; it adds DEFAULT_CONFIG regardless of …], it laks an else IMHO
[21:55] <TJ-> @HMollerCl I'm not sure of that; it's using a stack so I read it as putting the system-wide config first followed by the user config. I'd expect that to mean that user config options would therefore over-ride system-wide options when read
[21:55] <wxl> ^ according to docs, that's the intention
[21:56] <TJ-> glad to see I'm not getting rusty :)
[21:57] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker what size icon do you want/
 but he puts thes system wide if the unser one doesn't exist. L:240
[21:58] <TJ-> @HMollerCl agreed; it 'feels' like the intent of the code is one thing, but the implementation is doing something else. I wonder if that is the result of previous patches in that area that broke an implied 'else'
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker what size icon do you want/], Ummm. What size was earlier one? Analogically, if earlier one was 40 then I would like a 34 now. Or 36. I will have to try them.
[21:59] <TJ-> @HMolloerCl might be worth checking the commit message that covers those lines
 wxl: by other icons, I mean if there are ones without the blue circle.
[22:02] <wxl> oh
[22:02] <wxl> the blue circle is the thing that makes our logo
 Ohh. Then just send a smaller sized one.
[22:03] <wxl> 40²
[22:03] <wxl> ?
 Also, why don't we use it on the menu button?
[22:04] <wxl> we do
 @wxl [<wxl> 40²], That would be too small.
[22:04] <wxl> so what size?
 @wxl [<wxl> we do], The one I attached in current theme is the one we use na? I had picked it up then I right clicked the menu button and change the icon. I found it in that folder
 @The_LoudSpeaker look at this for example https://forum.lxqt.org/t/problem-with-scripts/776/2
 @wxl [<wxl> so what size?], Maybe 120*120 pixels.
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker look at this for example https://forum.lxqt.org/t/problem-with- …], Sure, tomorrow morning. Now good bye ya all.
[22:18] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker https://pictshare.net/8gvuw9.png
[22:19] <TJ-> shouldn't graphics be all SVG ?


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[01:38] <Pici> What a surprise, someone asking what the largest channel on freenode is (in #freenode) comes and gets kicked.
[06:15] <Tm_T> AlanBell: hi how can we help you today?
[06:26] <Beldar> we have a bot on #ubuntu   Seb_bday
[06:27] <Beldar> just a heeds up.
[06:27] <Tm_T> thanks
[06:28] <Tm_T> IdleOne: I think it was actually an user with a talkative script
[06:28] <IdleOne> may have been
 not being helpful
[13:22] <DJones> Hopefully the +q will catch any that are left
[13:22] <IdleOne> Good morning
[13:26] <DJones> I'll say Good day as I'm eating dinner
[18:20] <ikonia> LjL: already pm'd him to not cause an issue in channel
[18:21] <IdleOne> the nick is not acceptable
[18:39] <Pici> Which one was that?
[18:40] <ikonia> "slut_tits"
[18:40] <Pici> ah