[09:28] <underdog5004> yay, I figured out my problem! I had to install the -dev of libssl
[09:32] <orient2000> !partitions
[09:32] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:52] <orient2000> #kubuntu+1
[09:54] <vein> hello all
[09:55] <vein>
[09:55] <vein>
[09:58] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[10:01] <orient2000>  Get out of Tibet please.
[10:04] <djkoock> c' nessuno?
[10:05] <compilerwriter> Underdo2004 what have you got going on again.  I have such a flurry of people joining and parting It is four screens up for me.
[10:05] <compilerwriter> s/Underdo2004/Underdog2004
[10:06] <compilerwriter> That and I am trying to follow kubuntu-de
[10:07] <jay_> How do I identify myself? #java keeps tellin me i gotta do that first
[10:07] <wolferine> jay_, goto #help
[10:08] <wolferine> they handle those types of questions
[10:08] <posingaspopular>  /msg NickServ help works too
[10:08] <wolferine> of course :)
[10:10] <FrozenPlasma> Guten Morgen!
[10:11] <FrozenPlasma> Kann man eine (K)Ubuntu-Version einfach updaten? Diesen Monat kommt wohl noch die V.7 raus...
[10:11] <FrozenPlasma> ...ich wrde aber gerne jetzt schon Kubuntu installieren...
[10:11] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma, try #kubuntu-** Country code
[10:12] <wolferine> or #ubuntu-**
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> #kubuntu-**
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> ?
[10:12] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma, what country?
[10:12] <wolferine> where are you from?
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> ah - ok
[10:12] <FrozenPlasma> sorry
[10:12] <wolferine> not a problem
[10:13] <FrozenPlasma> i'd like to know if kubuntu can be updated easily...
[10:13] <FrozenPlasma> or if i have to install every version on its own
[10:13] <wolferine> FrozenPlasma,  use the Ubuntu Guide(use google to find)
[10:13] <wolferine> its easy
[10:14] <FrozenPlasma> ok. that's all i wanted to know :)
[10:14] <wolferine> KDE should come with an update manager already
[10:14] <FrozenPlasma> Thank you!
[10:14] <wolferine> np
[10:14] <posingaspopular> wolferine: leave some of that kubuntu support for the rest of us
[10:15] <wolferine> sorry
[10:15] <wolferine> ill try and spread it out
[10:15] <wolferine> O_o
[10:15] <posingaspopular> ha i was jk
[10:16] <wolferine> i know :/
[10:18] <akrus`Away> hello
[10:19] <akrus`Away> could someone tell me if there's any software available to download a folder from HTTP with the files inside
[10:19] <akrus`Away> like this: http://tenshi.ru/anime-ost/Hanbun_no_Tsuki_ga_Noboru_Sora/
[10:20] <flaccid> akrus`Away: i believe wget can do it
[10:21] <akrus`Away> flaccid: ok, i'll try
[10:21] <flaccid> http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/html_node/Recursive-Download.html
[10:21] <akrus`Away> thanks :)
[10:22] <flaccid> np
[10:25] <compilerwriter> wolferine frozenplasma was typing in German.
[10:25] <se7en> grrrrrrrr i can't get nvidia fx5200 to work i get a black screen as soon as i change from nv driver to nvidia
[10:25] <wolferine> country code for Germany?
[10:25] <compilerwriter> By the time I realized he need an !de he had left
[10:25] <wolferine> se7en, i can help a bit
[10:25] <bill_k> need fglrx binary driver help, x won't start :(
[10:25] <se7en> i could use some help
[10:26] <compilerwriter> I am trying to follow kubuntu-de so and this channel so I was a bit slow on the uptake.
[10:26] <wolferine> se7en, you have to update to the latest nvidia drivers, its listened on the Ubuntu Guide (google it)
[10:26] <wolferine> then once you update the drivers, you want to run nvidia-xorg
[10:27] <wolferine> which is a command for setting up your xorg.conf to run the nvidia driver
[10:27] <akrus`Away> hm
[10:27] <wolferine> then, if you like
[10:27] <flaccid> se7en: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:27] <akrus`Away> it's not downloading anyway :(
[10:27] <se7en> wolferine: i tryed all the guides including automatics
[10:27] <wolferine> you can use nvidia-settings to setup the other options
[10:27] <wolferine> se7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it
[10:28] <wolferine> its the second one that comes up on the page
[10:28] <wolferine> (if I remember correctly)
[10:28] <flaccid> im willing to look at pastebins of xorg.conf and
[10:28] <flaccid> Xorg.0.log for people with X problems
[10:34] <se7en> wolferine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16089/
[10:35] <wolferine> se7en, did you update the drivers?
[10:35] <se7en> yes
[10:36] <se7en> all i get is a black screen after reboot just before i can log in
[10:36] <wolferine> and ran nvidia-xconfig?
[10:37] <se7en> yes
[10:37] <wolferine> ok, open a shell
[10:37] <se7en> ok
[10:37] <wolferine> type sudo nano .bashrc
[10:38] <wolferine> let me finish, then ask questions
[10:38] <wolferine> scroll to the bottom
[10:38] <wolferine> then add this:
[10:38] <wolferine> # USER DEFINED ALIAS
[10:38] <wolferine> alias xo='sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:39] <wolferine> those two lines, exactly
[10:39] <wolferine> then press ctrl-o
[10:39] <wolferine> then enter
[10:39] <wolferine> then ctrl-x
[10:39] <wolferine> to exit
[10:39] <wolferine> done that?
[10:39] <posingaspopular> wolferine: i warned you already!
[10:39] <wolferine> warned?
[10:39] <wolferine> am I hogging the channel again?
[10:40] <wolferine> or too much spoon feeding :)
[10:40] <bill_k> wolferine: want to look at more xorg patebins?
[10:40] <wolferine> bill_k, not atm, but in a bit sure
[10:40] <flaccid> se7en: i don't see any fatal errors unfortunately. you do'nt have any wacom devices, i assume so i'd remove them first just in case its that. not this config is using the nv free driver.
[10:40] <bill_k> thanks
[10:40] <kubuntian> guys
[10:41] <kubuntian> i need some help with my connection....
[10:41] <wolferine> flaccid,  probably will as well bill_k
[10:41] <kubuntian> my friend with a macbook got the ip from the cable modem as soon as he connected the cable
[10:41] <se7en> flaccid: what is wacom device?
[10:41] <kubuntian> for me instead, when i put the cable in, and i make a dhgclient request i don't get anything
[10:42] <flaccid> !baddevice > se7en
[10:42] <wolferine> se7en, did you read what I wrote?
[10:42] <flaccid> kubuntian: pastebin output of dhclient
[10:42] <wolferine> or am I just wasting my time?
[10:42] <se7en> i am using nv again because i get a black screen
[10:42] <kubuntian> the leds on the ethernet connection blinks all the time thohg
[10:42] <se7en> yes i am at it wolferine
[10:42] <wolferine> are you done those instructions yet?
[10:42] <flaccid> se7en: well no wonder i didn't find any errors. can you paste the right log please!!
[10:43] <wolferine> hehe
[10:43] <kubuntian> can somebody guide me through the connection process to see what's wrong?
[10:43] <wolferine> se7en, am I wasting my time, cause i can help others...
[10:43] <flaccid> kubuntian: you could pastebin the output of dhclient so i can tell you your problem..
[10:43] <wolferine> ok, bill_k post it
[10:43] <wolferine> ill take a look
[10:43] <kubuntian> ok
[10:43] <bill_k> .conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past
[10:44] <posingaspopular> wolferine: hogging it all, but it's okay i dont know the answers anyway
[10:44] <wolferine> lol
[10:44] <Dani> #ubuntu
[10:44] <wolferine> ati, sorry bill_k i probably cannot help
[10:44] <wolferine> you can try #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <kubuntian> flaccid: http://pastebin.ca/444249
[10:44] <bill_k> ok thanks for looking
[10:44] <kubuntian> here it is
[10:45] <flaccid> kubuntian: if your cable is connected, i dont know why your dhcp server is not giving a lease offer.
[10:46] <flaccid> the problem could be with your dhcp server
[10:46] <kubuntian> yeah, the cable is connected
[10:46] <kubuntian> well, in that case my friend shouldn't get anything too
[10:46] <kubuntian> but he does
[10:46] <flaccid> he is on a dif operating system?
[10:46] <kubuntian> and receives an IP correctlu
[10:46] <kubuntian> yeah, he is on MacOSX
[10:46] <flaccid> weird
[10:47] <kubuntian> i KNOW!!
[10:47] <CarinArr> kubuntian: you sure there aren't mac address restrictions in the router?
[10:47] <kubuntian> even cause i used ethernet a lots
[10:47] <flaccid> someone else was here before with this problem, what that you?
[10:47] <kubuntian> yeah
[10:47] <kubuntian> yeah, i am sure
[10:47] <kubuntian> cause it's just an cable modem
[10:47] <flaccid> bill_k: whats the prob with your config
[10:47] <kubuntian> and it does not have firewall or restrictions
[10:48] <bill_k> x won't start after installing fglrx driver (want to peek at log and config?)
[10:48] <kubuntian> flaccid: no it wasn't me
[10:48] <flaccid> bill_k: isn't that what you provided ??
[10:48] <bill_k> yes
[10:48] <bill_k> I don't know
[10:48] <CarinArr> bill_k: what's the url? i'll have a quickie look
[10:49] <flaccid> bill_k: they look fine to me. i can't see any error in xorg log
[10:50] <bill_k> ok, thanks! .conf http://pastebin.ca/444245 and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.ca/444247 followed !binarydrivers guide for fglrx, on feisty (updated) and fglrx has worked in past
[10:50] <flaccid> bill_k: even though the log uses radeon driver
[10:51] <CarinArr> uhm..
[10:51] <CarinArr> why are there two ati device sections?
[10:51] <flaccid> yeah might wanna remove one
[10:51] <flaccid>   Driver      "ati"
[10:51] <flaccid> that should be fglrx i assume
[10:52] <flaccid> identifiers don't match coz of it
[10:52] <CarinArr> yeah, that's what i'd think.. change driver "ati" to driver "fglrx" and remove the second section
[10:52] <flaccid> yeah the log says its using ATI
[10:52] <bill_k> ok
[10:52] <se7en> ok flaccid and wolferine here is the old log
[10:52] <flaccid> make sure you use         BusID       "PCI:3:0:0"
[10:53] <CarinArr> or add the bus id to the second device section and comment out the previous one or something
[10:53] <kubuntian> flaccid: you know what's even weirder?
[10:53] <flaccid> yep
[10:53] <kubuntian> that when i connect with a fixed IP
[10:53] <kubuntian> for example ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:53] <CarinArr> cause at the moment your server uses the second device, but only the first one is configured correctly, and it's not using the fglrx driver;)
[10:53] <flaccid> i reckon xorg should complain if there is a conflict like this but ah well it provides overloading capabilities
[10:53] <kubuntian> knemo tells me CONNECTED
[10:53] <flaccid> !info knemo
[10:53] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 267 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[10:54] <flaccid> well yes
[10:54] <flaccid> connected means it has a link and IP
[10:54] <flaccid> doesn't mean it works
[10:54] <kubuntian> and the other weird thing is the following
[10:54] <kubuntian> [17184063.424000]  b44: eth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
[10:54] <kubuntian> oh, i see
[10:54] <kubuntian> this one was a dmesg error
[10:54] <flaccid> i don't knwo about that one
[10:54] <flaccid> but that could be the reason or it could be irrelevant
[10:54] <flaccid> you can google but
[10:54] <bill_k> CarinArr: flaccid crap, I just realized I copied the log in the gui, (after I had put back the working xorg.conf
[10:55] <bill_k> other log is different (of course)
[10:55] <CarinArr> i was thinking that, when he said there weren't any errors, but i only looked at the conf so far, not the errors;)
[10:55] <CarinArr> or lack of them
[10:55] <CarinArr> heh
[10:56] <flaccid> bill_k: if you fix up the xorg.conf with the right driver section and make sure fglrx is used as Driver and not ati then you should be right
[10:56] <flaccid> CarinArr: well if the dhcp server is not responding to you, can't really check any log
[10:56] <bill_k> so remove the first driver section? or just put a # leading each line?
[10:57] <CarinArr> o.O
[10:57] <se7en> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16093/  this is the old xorg.log
[10:57] <flaccid> bill_k: move  BusID       "PCI:3:0:0" to the second device section, then remove the first device seciton
[10:57] <CarinArr> or comment it out;)
[10:57] <kubuntian> '
[10:57] <kubuntian> ?
[10:57] <kubuntian> sorry^
[10:57] <kubuntian> ?
[10:57] <bill_k> ok
[10:58] <CarinArr> kubuntian: i was assuming flaccid was talking to you, as i wasn't talking about dhcp;)
[10:58] <flaccid> se7en: that one looks fine and uses nv
[11:00] <se7en> flaccid: as soon as change /etc/X11/xorg.conf back to nvidia i get the black screen after reboot
[11:01] <flaccid> se7en: you've said this many times
[11:01] <wolferine> se7en, you needed to update the drivers
[11:01] <wolferine> as I said, many times
[11:01] <se7en> how
[11:01] <flaccid> if you keep providing me with a working X log i can't do anything for you
[11:02] <bill_k> flaccid: got a broken x log :)
[11:02] <flaccid> cool
[11:02] <flaccid> thats more like it
[11:02] <se7en> how sould i send you a not workin x log ...?
[11:02] <bill_k> pastebin.ca/444261
[11:03] <bill_k> error is different with the new device section configuration
[11:03] <amdiak> Bonjour
[11:03] <se7en> till i changed the driver back i can't even work on the console
[11:03] <flaccid> se7en: if you are using irc on the same computer, you should copy the file in shell so its not overwritten by the working xorg when you go back in to X
[11:03] <bill_k> I think it liked the 2 sections
[11:04] <flaccid> bill_k: i don't think you edited it correctly
[11:04] <CarinArr> bill_k: can you paste your xorg.conf please?
[11:04] <flaccid> bill_k: pastebin current xorg.conf and i'll edit it correctly
[11:04] <bill_k> sure
[11:04] <bill_k> thanks :)
[11:05] <bill_k> pastebin.ca/444262
[11:05] <Hc\\> hmm
[11:06] <Hc\\> can some1 tell me how to install putty on linux?
[11:06] <Hc\\> :D
[11:06] <flaccid> why do you need putty?
[11:06] <bill_k> putty is great! on windows
[11:06] <Hc\\> or something thats near it
[11:06] <CarinArr> bill_k:         Device     "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] "
[11:06] <Hc\\> i neet
[11:06] <CarinArr> that's the problem
[11:07] <Hc\\> i need it in school
[11:07] <bill_k> that device needs to be ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350.... that's what the screen is identified by
[11:07] <bill_k> yes
[11:07] <neoj> Hc\\: konsole and ssh ?
[11:07] <Hc\\> ssh is same?
[11:07] <flaccid> bill_k: heh you have two screen sections as well
[11:07] <CarinArr> bill_k: you should use the identifier for the card, which is aticonfig-Device[0]
[11:07] <Hc\\> im on the windows section atm
[11:07] <bill_k> I followed the guide!
[11:08] <flaccid> bill_k: take out the first one
[11:08] <bill_k> I have no idea how to.... just fix the pastebin :)
[11:08] <bill_k> ?
[11:08] <bill_k> ok completely?
[11:08] <neoj> Hc\\: open a konsole session and typ ssh username@remote_machine
[11:08] <flaccid> bloody alright
[11:08] <flaccid> if you promise to learn
[11:08] <Hc\\> ok
[11:08] <Hc\\> ty
[11:08] <Hc\\> bb
[11:08] <Hc\\> go back to kubuntu :D
[11:08] <bill_k> i will learn :)
[11:08] <neoj> Hc\\: ofc you need to change username@remove_machine :)
[11:08] <CarinArr> there looks like there's plenty missing from the second screeens section though
[11:09] <bill_k> I've been learning almost 24/7 it's 4am here
[11:09] <flaccid> it doesn't need res
[11:09] <flaccid> but i'll put it in
[11:09] <CarinArr> ;)
[11:09] <bill_k> :)
[11:09] <flaccid> CarinArr: that could be where the problem lies
[11:09] <bill_k> oh
[11:09] <bill_k> another thing
[11:09] <flaccid> my mate ran vnvidia-config yesterday and it did a similar thing
[11:09] <bill_k> I have 2 monitors now
[11:10] <CarinArr> right
[11:10] <bill_k> both 1280x1024
[11:10] <CarinArr> teaching in five minutes so need to get going
[11:10] <CarinArr> flaccid'll see you right;)
[11:11] <bill_k> what do you teach?
[11:13] <flaccid> so you do have dual display already, bill_k ?
[11:13] <bill_k> just unboxed the second monitor 10 minutes ago
[11:13] <bill_k> yup
[11:13] <bill_k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301941 bigdesktop guide for ati
[11:14] <flaccid> right
[11:14] <flaccid> well here is single monitor config: http://pastebin.ca/444277
[11:14] <bill_k> thank you.
[11:15] <flaccid> np
[11:18] <bill_k> flaccid: better thing to type than startx?
[11:19] <wolferine> bill_k, setting up duals?
[11:19] <bill_k> yeah
[11:19] <bill_k> well, ati driver first
[11:19] <wolferine> its nice to have
[11:19] <flaccid> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:19] <bill_k> wouldn't even work w/ 1 monitor
[11:19] <wolferine> yeah, I have an ATI sitting in a box on the floor
[11:20] <wolferine> just bought a new Nvidia :)
[11:20] <flaccid> dang
[11:20] <wolferine> well, a month ago
[11:20] <bill_k> thanks
[11:20] <bill_k> well, got a kubuntu logo
[11:20] <flaccid> if only i had time for games
[11:20] <bill_k> it's mostly for screensavers and the possibility of beryl
[11:20] <bill_k> :)
[11:20] <flaccid> cool
[11:21] <se7en> ok this should be the not working xorg log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16097/
[11:22] <flaccid> se7en: that one looks fine to me too. if you are getting blank screen then maybe xorg is fine but something else is the problem - maybe acpi
[11:22] <flaccid> which driver are you trying to use with the bad one?
[11:23] <flaccid> because that log uses nv and not nvidia again..
[11:24] <se7en> i have the nvidia problem since 6 month i have tryed everthing the last one with automatics which did all the setting and still doesn't work
[11:24] <wolferine> se7en,  have the latest drivers?
[11:24] <flaccid> well we dont know what the problem is
[11:24] <wolferine> and if so, which?
[11:24] <flaccid> se7en: you have the nvidia prop. driver installed?
[11:25] <se7en> i have no idea !!!
[11:26] <flaccid> obviously
[11:26] <se7en> send me a link
[11:26] <wolferine> se7en, use the ubuntu guide to install the latest drivers
[11:26] <se7en> please
[11:26] <wolferine> google
[11:26] <flaccid> se7en: take time to do what wolferine said
[11:26] <flaccid> then come back
[11:26] <flaccid> install and use the binary driver
[11:26] <flaccid> atm the free nv driver is being used
[11:26] <se7en> i followed the ubuntu guide 3 times with the same results
[11:26] <bill_k> flaccid: looking at log now, didnt start
[11:26] <flaccid> which should work but you report its not.
[11:26] <se7en> black screen
 se7en, you needed to update the drivers
 as I said, many times
[11:27] <flaccid> se7en: you've said this many times already
[11:27] <flaccid> instead of repeating and wasting time here, go install the binary driver, se7en
[11:27] <bill_k> parse error on line 126 of section extensions in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <wolferine> wolferine> se7en, in ff, open the ubuntu guide, press ctrl-f (find), then type in nvidia and search for it
[11:27] <flaccid> bill_k: maybe i have a typo one sec
[11:27] <wolferine> those are my previous posts
[11:27] <bill_k> unexpected EOF.  Missing EndSection keyword?
[11:27] <wolferine> seems se7en has a VERY difficult time reading
[11:27] <bill_k> that's what it said the first time I tried it
[11:29] <flaccid> it has a problem with Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:29] <flaccid> maybe the 0 shouldn't be a literal string
[11:29] <flaccid> comment out the composite line and try again
[11:30] <flaccid> so only # Option      "Composite" "0"
[11:31] <Gabz> !samba
[11:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:31] <VSpike> Hi.  I've got "http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145" and "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356" in my sources list.  They should be a problem, should they?
[11:32] <Gabz> dam bot that's that what i wanted
[11:32] <wolferine> VSpike, take them out
[11:32] <flaccid> VSpike: why should they be a problem?
[11:32] <wolferine> hehe
[11:32] <VSpike> wolferine: why?
[11:32] <flaccid> if they are not working anymore or you don't want them, take em out
[11:32] <wolferine> listen to flaccid
[11:32] <flaccid> heh
[11:33] <flaccid> yeah listen to me lol
[11:33] <tmske> Hi, is there anyone who uses scribes in kubuntu?
[11:36] <bill_k> flaccid: that section was an exact copy paste from the official ubuntu instructions on fglrx setup.  "add this to the end of your xorg.conf file"
[11:36] <bill_k> and it worked on edgy
[11:36] <bill_k> http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/billyk128/17-04-07_0432.jpg
[11:37] <flaccid> bill_k: so?
[11:37] <flaccid> i can't find anything else..
[11:37] <flaccid> and thats what it says
[11:37] <flaccid> so can't hurt to try.. we might find out what the real reason is
[11:37] <bill_k> ok
[11:37] <bill_k> willdo
[11:37] <bill_k> will do*
[11:37] <flaccid> you can't see a syntax/typo error can you
[11:39] <bill_k> nope
[11:39] <bill_k> just triple checked
[11:40] <laur> Goood morning
[11:40] <laur> i have set up my laptop for dual screen, xinerama turned off
[11:40] <bill_k> bleh, it's getting light outside
[11:41] <laur> i would like to make an Impress presentation like that that it would appear on the second screen
[11:41] <bill_k> crosses fingers
[11:42] <VSpike> I have the KDE 3.5.6 packages installed... I am getting a crash from kdesktop_lock.  I was trying to expand an existing bug report I found by providing gdb and valgrind info.  I noticed in gdb there was a lot of "no debug symbols", so I wanted to install the kdebase-dbg package.  But I'm getting conflicts from aptitude
[11:42] <bill_k> doesn't look good
[11:42] <bill_k> flaccid: trying reboot
[11:42] <bill_k> lol
[11:42] <flaccid> k
[11:42] <VSpike> kdebase-dbg: Depends: libkonq4 (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[11:43] <flaccid> i find usplash interfers sometimes and you have to use tty
[11:43] <flaccid> another thing i hate about ubuntu
[11:43] <VSpike> it wants to downgrade "kdebase [4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (now) -> 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy)] " and libkonq similarly
[11:44] <Gabz> ok is there a easy way to get samba working in kubuntu ?
[11:44] <flaccid> Gabz: not really
[11:45] <Gabz> ok i'll stick to manunally editing that config file....
[11:45] <bill_k> oh how do I turn the quiet boot off
[11:45] <bill_k> so it shows me all the wonderful errors?
[11:45] <flaccid> Gabz: kontrol snap in is good, but you generally need to know what you are doing.
[11:45] <flaccid> bill_k: need to edit grub.conf i think and take out the param
[11:45] <flaccid> something like that
[11:46] <flaccid> !usplash
[11:46] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:47] <Gabz> flaccid: i had to manually edit my samba configure to change the work group i couldn't find it in the control panel thingy
[11:48] <VSpike> Gabz: swat is quite good
[11:48] <bill_k> ok
[11:48] <flaccid> ok
[11:48] <bill_k> so, still no boot :(
[11:48] <flaccid> pastebin the xorg log
[11:48] <flaccid> i wanna see why
[11:49] <posingaspopular> flaccid: don't listen to bill_k, he's just a n00b
[11:49] <bill_k> i will
[11:49] <bill_k> keyboard io not even working now :(
[11:49] <flaccid> haha
[11:49] <bill_k> well just the I part that I care about
[11:49] <posingaspopular> bill_k: do you KNOW where your keyboard is, first of all
[11:49] <flaccid> hey play nice :)
[11:49] <bill_k> ?
[11:49] <bill_k> it's on my desk
[11:50] <posingaspopular> flaccid: it's cool i already know him
[11:50] <flaccid> cool
[11:50] <bill_k> :-p
[11:52] <flaccid> w0a did i still leave in two screens
[11:53] <bill_k> ?
[11:53] <_4strO> !codecs
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <bill_k> i think i need to boot to recovery mode
[11:54] <bill_k> crap
[11:54] <flaccid> bill_k: i still left the 2 screens in
[11:54] <flaccid> bill_k: new xorg.conf : http://pastebin.ca/444319
[11:54] <bill_k> ok
[11:54] <bill_k> i should just let you ssh in
[11:55] <tmske> I'm trying to use scribes on kde (http://scribes.sourceforge.net) and I get an error when running it: No module named gtksourceview
[11:55] <bill_k> uh oh....
[11:55] <bill_k> red text
[11:56] <bill_k> *activiating swapfile swap...             [fail]
[11:56] <Hc\\\> hey, can some1 tell me how to instal java plugins? :D
[11:56] <Hc\\\> sudo get-apt install ..?
[11:56] <icecruncher> !java
[11:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:56] <Gabz> tmske: the error means it wants to use a gtk package
[11:57] <tmske> Gabz, I have installed python-gtk
[11:58] <_4strO> tmske: sudo apt-get install libgtksourceview-common
[11:58] <_4strO> ???
[11:58] <Gabz> tmske: there _4strO has your answer...
[11:58] <_4strO> :)
[11:59] <_4strO> just do a little apt-cache search gtksourceview
[12:00] <bill_k> no kbd and mouse again
[12:00] <bill_k> :(
[12:00] <tmske> _4strO, Gabz, this is telling me that I have this already installed
[12:00] <pgquiles__> when will the Feisty RC be released?
[12:01] <bill_k> flaccid: it may be time for me to clean install
[12:01] <bill_k> i manage to F* it up twice a month anyways
[12:01] <icecruncher> when I log in i get the following message "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly", this being probably something along with the desktop because I cannot see any icons on the desktop for at least 15 minutes unless I add an icon to. what should i do? how can I solve this? (edgy)
[12:01] <flaccid> no kbd and mouse, but is the display driver working?
[12:01] <VSpike> I'm thinking of doing a clean install of feisty, when it's released
[12:02] <VSpike> Gonna be painful though
[12:03] <bill_k> no, used the working xorg.conf
[12:03] <bill_k> havent tested the most recent one
[12:03] <flaccid> wtf not
[12:03] <flaccid> i told you i forgot to remove the two screen sections..
[12:04] <flaccid> bill_k: please try http://pastebin.ca/444319
[12:04] <_4strO> tmske: where did you find the scribe package ?
[12:05] <bill_k> well, no kbd or mouse support,cant do much
[12:05] <lupul> someone help me please? which is the path i have to write in gaim to show the music i'm listening as status
[12:05] <lupul> from amarok
[12:05] <flaccid> bill_k: ctrl+alt+f1 and login there
[12:06] <bill_k> zero kbd mouse connectivity
[12:06] <tmske> _4strO, I got it of getdeb.net, but I'll try to install it manually and see if that works
[12:06] <bill_k> crap
[12:06] <bill_k> ooh idea
[12:06] <flaccid> bill_k: well if you get it back, that last pastebin of xorg should work in theory and fix that last problem.
[12:07] <_4strO> mmm
[12:07] <bill_k> should I bother with 4 hours of sleep?
[12:08] <tmske> _4strO: after installing it, I have no the error No module named TextBuffer
[12:10] <bill_k> activating swapfile swap fails
[12:11] <flaccid> bill_k: not going to try that conf ?
[12:11] <bill_k> flaccid: I cant get to pastebin.com without a gui
[12:11] <bill_k> i cant get keyboard and mouse with gui
[12:11] <_4strO> tmske: lol
[12:11] <bill_k> only before it gets to gui
[12:13] <VSpike> bill_k: you could use wget
[12:13] <laur> How to switch off OpenOffice's automatical crash recovery ?
[12:14] <flaccid> bill_k: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and get it work with something
[12:14] <flaccid> then when you are in kde/X overwite the xorg.conf with the 1 i pasted then restart kdm /X
[12:14] <VSpike> bill_k: wget http://pastebin.ca/444319
[12:15] <VSpike> bill_k: if you use GNU screen + vi/nano/emacs + wget you can do what you need
[12:17] <flaccid> thats true
[12:18] <VSpike> can also use irssi to connect here
[12:18] <VSpike> I was doing it yesterday on a broken x server
[12:19] <VSpike> painful but educational :)
[12:19] <VSpike> actually i like irssi
[12:19] <bill_k> VSpike: i'll just steal a kbd from the computer lab downstarirs tomorrow
[12:19] <bill_k> today
[12:19] <VSpike> just not in vga console resoltion on a 19" crt.  ew
[12:20] <bill_k> screen irssi
[12:20] <bill_k> crap, did the xorg config
[12:20] <bill_k> no luck
[12:20] <bill_k> !
[12:21] <bill_k> i have a usb mouse, any onscreen kbd?
[12:21] <bill_k> remote login eh?
[12:21] <bill_k> how do I add a host?
[12:21] <bill_k> or what do I add for host?
[12:22] <icecruncher> anybody?
[12:24] <Gabz> host ?
[12:25] <bill_k> at the ubuntu login scren
[12:26] <bill_k> there's remote login option
[12:26] <VSpike> icecruncher: did you look at http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15535
[12:26] <bill_k> xdmcp host menu
[12:26] <icecruncher> no
[12:26] <icecruncher> thanks
[12:29] <_4strO> icecruncher: ?
[12:30] <flaccid> bill_k: you have login screen?
[12:30] <bill_k> only mouse though
[12:30] <_4strO> icecruncher: what did you do ?
[12:30] <flaccid> is this under my xorg.conf ?
[12:30] <icecruncher> nothing
[12:30] <bill_k> i can do anything in cli, recovery mode, but once it loads the login screen the mouse and kbd stop working
[12:30] <bill_k> no
[12:30] <ForMatter> Bill_k..Want ask somethin about kubuntu..
[12:30] <bill_k> guess i'll try a wget, rebooting again
[12:31] <flaccid> bill_k: you have not tested my xorg.conf yet?
[12:31] <ForMatter> Bill_k..
[12:31] <bill_k> ForMatter: my bluetooth mouse and keyboard work fine in recovery mode but something kills it when the login screen comes up
[12:32] <bill_k> even works in bios, there are hardware pairing buttons on both sides
[12:32] <bill_k> i'll try to put that conf in with wget
[12:32] <ForMatter> How to detecting modem on my notebook using kubuntu..I have motorola SM56 modem integrated,but was'nt detected..
[12:33] <bill_k> lspci
[12:33] <ForMatter> Please help me..
[12:33] <ForMatter> Yes..
[12:33] <bill_k> hmm, havent done that modem
[12:33] <bill_k> does it show up though'
[12:33] <bill_k> ;?
[12:33] <ForMatter> Bill_k
[12:34] <ForMatter> I dont know where i must lookin for driver..
[12:34] <bill_k> google ubuntu + adapter name
[12:34] <bill_k> ubuntu forums
[12:35] <ForMatter> Site address..
[12:35] <ForMatter> Bill_k..Are u using kubuntu too..
[12:36] <bill_k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235448 yes
[12:36] <bill_k> ForMatter: it looks like it may be very difficult to get the modem working, I guess even windows support was stopped years ago
[12:36] <ForMatter> Where i find setting for login with root..
[12:36] <flaccid> !sudo
[12:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:37] <ForMatter> With x-windows like in ubuntu before..
[12:38] <ForMatter> In ubuntu,in login window there option for root login..In kubuntu i cant find it..
[12:39] <Hc\\\> !flash
[12:39] <flaccid> thats because you shouldn't login as root in X
[12:39] <Hc\\\> hmm
[12:39] <Hc\\\> how to get flash work?
[12:40] <flaccid> !flash
[12:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:40] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:40] <bill_k> flaccid: did the wget but all the html crap is jumbled in
[12:41] <flaccid> bill_k: you'll have to edit and remove that shiz
[12:41] <ForMatter> So..How about connect to the internet with w-lan..In wireless agent i have found some SSID but i cant connect it..
[12:41] <bill_k> how do I clear a line in nano?
[12:41] <bill_k> been holding the backspace key for minutes....
[12:41] <flaccid> !wireless > ForMatter
[12:41] <flaccid> bill_k: i don't know sorry
[12:42] <bill_k> crap
[12:42] <bill_k> flaccid: he has an unsupported motorola nic, at least according to ubuntuforums
[12:42] <bill_k> supposedly windows support was stopped a while ago for it too
[12:43] <flaccid> i'd buy or use a dif nic
[12:43] <flaccid> :)
[12:43] <bill_k> it's a modem :-p
[12:43] <bill_k> still a nic
[12:43] <flaccid> oh a modem is not a nic
[12:43] <flaccid> but yeah
[12:44] <flaccid> internal modem?
[12:44] <bill_k> it is too a network interface card
[12:44] <bill_k> just not a 100base t nic
[12:45] <flaccid> doesn't make it a nic
[12:45] <flaccid> but yeah
[12:45] <flaccid> argumentative
[12:46] <flaccid> just because its a port doesnt make it an nic :) you bridge the modem onto a nic. but im no engineer :)
[12:46] <bill_k> lol
[12:47] <bill_k> a fiber optic gbic is a nic, but not in the most common sense
[12:47] <bill_k> wifi cards are nics
[12:47] <bill_k> lol
[12:47] <flaccid> yes
[12:47] <flaccid> but modems only modulate and de-modulate
[12:48] <flaccid> if it had a nick it would be a router and you would need to route that to the other nic..
[12:48] <flaccid> err nick=nic
[12:48] <flaccid> dammit thats my dealers name, must be that time
[12:49] <bill_k> oh
[12:49] <bill_k> nevermind
[12:49] <bill_k> go buy ur drugz
[12:49] <flaccid> are you manually editing?
[12:50] <anees_> flaccid: hi...i want to update my firefox web browser
[12:50] <anees_> how can i do it
[12:50] <flaccid> apt-get
[12:51] <_4strO> anees_: wich version have you ?
[12:51] <_4strO> ( firefox -v)
[12:51] <bill_k> flaccid: i'm going to nap
[12:51] <bill_k> for 3 hours
[12:51] <flaccid> ok np
[12:51] <flaccid> i'm going for a few beers
[12:52] <bill_k> i'll be on later, thanks for your help
[12:52] <flaccid> i'll catcha(s) later
[12:52] <flaccid> np
[12:52] <bill_k> yup
[12:52] <flaccid> you must be in US or something
[12:52] <bill_k> yeah
[12:52] <flaccid> 21 is too late to drink
[12:52] <bill_k> where are you?
[12:52] <bill_k> it's 6am
[12:52] <bill_k> lol
[12:52] <flaccid> im in australia
[12:53] <flaccid> on that little island on the bottom
[12:53] <flaccid> called tasmania
[12:53] <flaccid> and at the bottom of that
[12:53] <anees_> flaccid: Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:53] <bill_k> cool
[12:53] <bill_k> what time is it there?
[12:54] <_4strO> anees_: you're on an edgy ?
[12:54] <bill_k> :)
[12:54] <anees_> ok...thanx
[12:55] <bill_k> flaccid: ok, really going to sleep this time, thank again
[12:55] <flaccid> Tue Apr 17 20:54:56 EST 2007
[12:55] <flaccid> npz cya
[12:55] <flaccid> cyas later
[12:57] <alexicon> helllo
[12:57] <alexicon> i just rebooted my machine cos it froze, and now my wifi card has dissapeared
[12:58] <alexicon> the device doesnt show up anymore
[12:58] <alexicon> looks like the driver is still there..
[12:58] <alexicon> any ideas where to start lookin?
[12:59] <_4strO> alexicon: dmesg ?
[01:00] <alexicon> good idea, why didnt i think of that :P
[01:00] <_4strO> dmesg | grep ipw
[01:00] <alexicon> ath im on atheros drivers
[01:00] <alexicon> and its saying stuff bout
[01:00] <alexicon> disagrees about version of symbol
[01:01] <alexicon> im running on patched drivers :/
[01:01] <alexicon> but havent had a problem for 4 months
[01:01] <_4strO> alexicon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[01:01] <_4strO> never had a wifi pb
[01:02] <alexicon> cant cos without wifi i cant get online
[01:02] <alexicon> oh
[01:02] <alexicon> i could reverse my nat..
[01:02] <alexicon> this is going to be hassle -_-
[01:02] <_4strO> exept for using aircrack
[01:02] <alexicon> yeah
[01:02] <alexicon> oh
[01:02] <alexicon> thats why i patched my drivers
[01:02] <_4strO> ^^
[01:02] <alexicon> i can use packet injection
[01:02] <alexicon> they wont give me an internet connection >_>
[01:02] <alexicon> so i *need* my wifi :P
[01:03] <_4strO> Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection <-- not compatible :/
[01:03] <alexicon> yeah
[01:03] <alexicon> i got a netgear pci card on my desktop
[01:03] <alexicon> its a beauty, instantly recognised by the system when i installed it, drivers patched no issues
[01:04] <alexicon> my computer has been acting funny though. unexplicably slow... firefox crashing all the time
[01:04] <alexicon> i should check my ssh logs... -_-
[01:07] <alexicon> ooooh idea. maybe it was because i did a full upgrade the other day. it tried to install the upgraded atheros drivers, and now conflicts with my patched ones or something
[01:08] <_4strO> hh possible
[01:09] <_Johny> Hello.Is there any website where I could check whether my digital camera is recognized in Kubuntu?
[01:10] <_4strO> !camera
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <_4strO> !webcam
[01:10] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:11] <_Johny> _4strO: I didn't mean a webcam but a digital camera
[01:11] <_Johny> thanks anyway
[01:13] <posingaspopular> _Johny: try googling the linux compatability list
[01:13] <posingaspopular> or ubuntuforums
[01:13] <_Johny> posingaspopular: Ok, thanks. I just thought there was some kind o website
[01:24] <yaccin> is there a bug in feistys recent xserver?
[01:25] <yaccin> i cant start gimp :/
[01:26] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:38] <T0uCH> Hi.. does anybody knows how to enable transparency of the K menu in Kubuntu desktop (kde) ??
[01:40] <Marthy> i believe it is on the same page as the desktop settings for changing the background and such
[01:44] <T0uCH> its not very complicated in this page.. but there is nothing about the k-menu transparency
[01:50] <Linux_Galore_> install Vista Fonts in Linux, simple pre made script -> http://users.tpg.com.au/abdserv6/GetVistaFonts
[01:51] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: but for what?
[01:51] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: It installs it for Linux and put them in the "users"  ~/.fonts  directory
[01:52] <Linux_Galore_> puts*
[01:52] <drkns> hello
[01:52] <drkns> i am new to linux and kubuntu
[01:52] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: got the idea from a BSD blog, then i just created a script that did all the steps
[01:53] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: Ah, ok. I just find it a bit useless to install vista fonts in Linux, but may be usefull to someone maybe /:
[01:53] <drkns> i figured out everything but wireless
[01:53] <drkns> my pcmcia card wont seem to work
[01:53] <drkns> can someone help?
[01:53] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: when you get a file that needs them from a Vista user they are their
[01:54] <_Johny> Linux_Galore_: I'm not sure I got it..
[01:55] <drkns> himmm help channel and noone answers
[01:56] <Linux_Galore_> _Johny: Vista has some extra fonts installed as standard, some are very nice and they all begin with the letter "C",    now lets say a windows user running Office 2007 decides to use one of them you can reproduce the exact same look within Linux
[01:56] <IdleOne> anyone know where I could find addon scripts for konversation?
[01:56] <IdleOne> !wifi | drkns
[01:56] <ubotu> drkns: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:56] <_Johny> drkns: If someone got and idea on how to help you would answer
[01:56] <drkns> ok thanks
[01:57] <_Johny> drkns: Did you try to search on google through compatible devices wesites your card model?
[01:58] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: the reason no one will answer is because your question is vague and you have not shown us that you have attempted to read up first
[01:59] <drkns> i have searched for it and it seems my card is supported through ndiswrapper and i have no idea to set it up that way
[01:59] <drkns> i am using kubuntu and it seems most sites goes the way for ubuntu
[01:59] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: ndiswrapper can be hit and miss
[01:59] <drkns> my card is usr5411
[02:00] <Linux_Galore_> drkns: Ive seen ndiswrapper not work with one kernel, downgrade or upgrade it to another version and it starts working
[02:00] <_Johny> it's the same :) the difference is only windows manager (Kubuntu-KDE) (Ubuntu-GNOME), right?
[02:00] <IdleOne> !find libhunspell-1.1-0
[02:00] <ubotu> Package/file libhunspell-1.1-0 does not exist in edgy
[02:02] <drkns> i have another card that strats up but wont register to access point
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> !hunspell
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hunspell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> hmm
[02:02] <_Johny> !find ndiswrapper
[02:02] <ubotu> Found: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.1, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8, ndiswrapper-source (and 8 others)
[02:02] <Linux_Galore_> the package is in Universe stupid bot
[02:02] <drkns> well let me work on this link more
[02:02] <drkns> thanks guys
[02:03] <Linux_Galore_> IdleOne: its in universe libhunspell
[02:03] <Linux_Galore_> as hunspell
[02:04] <Linux_Galore_> http://ftp.riken.go.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hunspell/
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libhunspell-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !find libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <ubotu> Found: libhunspell-dev
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> lol
[02:05] <Linux_Galore_> !find hunspell
[02:05] <ubotu> Found: hunspell, hunspell-de-at, hunspell-de-ch, hunspell-de-de, libhunspell-dev (and 1 others)
[02:27] <IdleOne> Linux_Galore_: ty for searching was looking to see what it was because I got a 'untrusted package warning" and wasnt sure where it belonged. was an update for iceApe browser ( not in repos yet )
[02:28] <Linux_Galore_> your welcome, I was curious too
[02:29] <Linux_Galore_> I have a weird mental tic were if I see something I have to know the answer
[02:29] <berkes> does anyone know if its possible to use wildcards in the /etc/hosts file?
[02:29] <IdleOne> IceApe will be in feisty+1 #ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:30] <Linux_Galore_> berkes: wouldnt know I have never tried it, cant see why not
[02:30] <IdleOne> Linux_Galore_: Im trying to find addon scripts for Konversation to add some uncommon functionality like : IRC Oper script and such. you know of any?
[02:31] <Linux_Galore_> IdleOne: no, I havent tried adding any to be honest
[02:32] <IdleOne> would think the homepage might have a few but I cant seem to find any
[02:47] <edgar0137> hola
[02:56] <dromer> how can I mount a .bin file ?
[02:56] <riamerril> can somebody help me out here?
[02:56] <riamerril> I was looking at how to retrieve a list of rooms. specifically looking for a quizzing room
[02:59] <Tm_T> riamerril: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:59] <Tm_T> riamerril: does that page help you?
[03:00] <riamerril> hey ! thanks .. actually i used the /list command
[03:00] <WillLuongo> dromer: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/82
[03:00] <riamerril> it got me a list of rooms which i filtered for quiz .. and im in there now :o)
[03:00] <Tm_T> riamerril: what I know about /list, it's too huge to used reasonable without search capability
[03:01] <dromer> WillLuongo: yeah I found that one, but I don't want to convert the file, also I don't have a .cue with the file
[03:01] <dromer> !cdemu
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <dromer> hmm, I could try that ..
[03:02] <dromer> though it might be risky for me to start playing with kernel modules ..
me using konqueror .. and it has that capability .. to search i mean
[03:02] <luca> hi everybody
[03:02] <WillLuongo> hi luca!
[03:02] <kubuntu22> hello luca
[03:03] <luca> hi :)
[03:03] <luca> does someone know how ubuntu runs on an ASUS F3P?
[03:03] <flaccid> luca: i don't but asus motherboards tend to go pretty well
[03:03] <Tm_T> riamerril: no, I mean in irc /list
[03:03] <luca> I am thinking about changing my laptop and I wanna avoid any problem, if possibleP
[03:03] <luca> thanks flaccid :)
[03:03] <flaccid> luca: im on an asus laptop
[03:04] <luca> any problem whatsoever? may I ask which model?
[03:04] <RealisticDragon> morning all
[03:04] <RealisticDragon> is there a ppc install CD for kubuntu 7.04? cant see one on the d/loads page :o
[03:05] <flaccid> luca: sd card bridge not supported, but thats about it. this is on a asus w1000Na
[03:05] <abattoir> RealisticDragon: of the RC?
[03:05] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: PPC is not officially supported anymore, but there is a team building PPC stuff so...
[03:05] <abattoir> or a nightly?
[03:05] <bobstro> flaccid: did that work (the firefox thing)?
[03:05] <abattoir> hi Tm_T :)
[03:05] <RealisticDragon> Tm_T: just for kubuntu, or for ubuntu as well? :o
 yeah thats correct. however I am using konqueror and that serves the purpose i suppose :o)
[03:06] <Tm_T> riamerril: konqueror? you mean konversation ?
[03:06] <flaccid> bobstro: its a bug which the result needs dev from what i read, don't think you can anything now, but i didn't read it thoroughly
[03:06] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: for Ubuntu atleast, no idea about Kubuntu part
[03:06] <Tm_T> RealisticDragon: but prolly that too
[03:06] <luca> flaccid thank you very much...however, your model is indeed quite different from the F3P :(
[03:06] <RealisticDragon> yikes :/ good job efty works pretty well on my powerbook if its the last upgrade its getting for a while ;)
[03:06] <bobstro> flaccid: if you try opening a file through the menu, it (apparently sometimes) lets you decide there. that's what i did originally and didn't think much of it.
[03:07] <Tm_T> abattoir: hello :)
[03:07] <dromer> WillLuongo: bchunk doesn't work since I don't have a .cue file
[03:07] <bobstro> flaccid: i wonder if it's related to whether you did a fresh firefox install or upgrade though.
[03:07] <dromer> !bchunk
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bchunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <WillLuongo> dromer, sorry that is all I have...
[03:08] <dromer> kay
[03:08] <dromer> anybody else on mounting .bin files ?
[03:08] <flaccid> bobstro: from what ive read and experienced, its either
[03:08] <ubuntu_> hi
 yup konversation it is
[03:09] <Tm_T> riamerril: konqueror is web/filebrowser (and general powertool)
[03:09] <flaccid> !iso
[03:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:09] <flaccid> dromer: try that^^ should apply to bin files which are usually a .iso
[03:10] <riamerril> Tm_T: sorry .. wanted to say konversation .. and typed konqueror ... am new to ubuntu and in general to linux
[03:10] <enry> hi
[03:10] <ubuntu_> quien habla espanol aqui
[03:11] <dromer> flaccid: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:11] <Tm_T> riamerril: no problemo, I tend to do such mistakes aswell
[03:13] <flaccid> dromer: what command are you running
[03:13] <bobdhicks> I tried to install Monkeyaudioplugin to k3b. When I did ./configure, got the following message: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check. What do I do now? Running 6.10 and I am a newbie.
[03:14] <dromer> flaccid: sudo mount -o loop <BIN-filename> <mountpoint>
[03:14] <Tm_T> bobdhicks: "sudo apt-get build-dep k3b
[03:14] <Tm_T> bobdhicks: then try again, though might not help you at all
[03:15] <flaccid> dromer: without conversion of your .bin try this: sudo mount -t iso9660 myimage.bin /mnt/mymountpoint -o loop
[03:15] <flaccid> make sure you mkdir mymountpoint as you want
[03:15] <flaccid> if that doesn't mount, you need to convert the bin to iso
[03:15] <dromer> yeah I already made a mountpoint for the file :)
[03:15] <flaccid> sweet
[03:16] <dromer> flaccid: mount: MP2_Install.bin is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[03:16] <flaccid> thats what i specified
[03:16] <flaccid> you need that to mount an image
[03:16] <dromer> hmm, guess I have to convert then :S
[03:17] <dromer> don't have cd's to burn anyway :P
[03:17] <flaccid> maybe
[03:17] <flaccid> use http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion#bin2iso
[03:17] <flaccid> then mount
[03:17] <dromer> I'm trying to compile bin2iso (like on the website ubotu gave) but the program isn't working
[03:17] <flaccid> its on some occasions that .bin are actually a .iso but yeah
[03:17] <flaccid> !info bin2iso
[03:17] <ubotu> Package bin2iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[03:17] <flaccid> um
[03:17] <flaccid> ok
[03:18] <dromer> flaccid: I compiled the bin.iso.c with gcc
[03:18] <flaccid> whats the issue?
[03:18] <dromer> $ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[03:18] <dromer> $ bin2iso
[03:18] <dromer> bash: bin2iso: command not found
[03:18] <flaccid> dromer: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:18] <flaccid> then try
[03:19] <flaccid> need gcc first
[03:19] <dromer> flaccid: build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:19] <flaccid> what does whereis gcc return?
[03:19] <dromer> gcc: /usr/bin/gcc /usr/lib/gcc /usr/X11R6/bin/gcc /usr/bin/X11/gcc /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
[03:20] <flaccid> oh i misread
[03:20] <flaccid> bin2iso is not installed
[03:20] <flaccid> you have to d/l the c file first
[03:20] <flaccid> wget http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[03:20] <flaccid> then try
[03:21] <dromer> I did that already
[03:21] <flaccid> then its not in the pwd
[03:21] <dromer> dlled the .c to my desktop, then ran it with;  $ gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[03:21] <flaccid> ie. the present directory
[03:21] <flaccid> dromer: what does pwd return?
[03:21] <dromer> I cd-ed to Desktop
[03:21] <dromer> just pwd ?
[03:21] <flaccid> yeah
[03:22] <stdin> dromer: when you're running an app from the anywhere not in the $PATH, you need to give a path to it, eg ./bin2iso
[03:22] <dromer> /home/user/Desktop
[03:22] <flaccid> hangon
[03:22] <flaccid> you pasted two commands
[03:23] <dromer> stdin, ok thnx, now I get an awnser from bin2iso
[03:23] <flaccid> doum yeah
[03:23] <dromer> I thought the compile made the program readily available anywhere in the commandline
[03:23] <flaccid> ooops sorry im drunk heh
[03:23] <dromer> hahaha
[03:23] <flaccid> dromer: oh sorry make install needed for that with a Makefile
[03:23] <dromer> oh ok
[03:24] <flaccid> so just mv it to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[03:24] <flaccid> or a desired path in $PATH
[03:24] <flaccid> it should actually go in /usr/sbin but ubuntu breaks traditional heir so it doesn't matter
[03:24] <flaccid> anyway you can run it now and convert
[03:25] <flaccid> stdin is good with the stdout :p
[03:25] <flaccid> :)
[03:25] <stdin> :D
[03:26] <dromer> flaccid: you mean if I mv the compiled bin2iso to /usr/bin/ it'll run ok anywhere ?
[03:27] <flaccid> dromer: yep
[03:27] <dromer> yay it works
[03:27] <flaccid> dromer: what irc clien are you using ?
[03:27] <dromer> takes a while though :P
[03:27] <flaccid> yeah will take a while
[03:27] <dromer> flaccid: irssi, running from my server (debian etch)
[03:27] <dromer> flaccid: why?
[03:27] <flaccid> sweet
[03:27] <flaccid> just curious
[03:28] <dromer> ok :)
[03:28] <dromer> and you?
[03:28] <flaccid> konversation
[03:28] <flaccid> but i'm a shell head with quite a few terminal emulators going
[03:28] <flaccid> do this command: set | grep PATH
[03:29] <flaccid> that is your path search
[03:29] <stdin> or just "echo $PATH" :)
[03:29] <flaccid> ah yeah
[03:29] <flaccid> but i wanted to return any other paths
[03:29] <dromer> what?
[03:29] <flaccid> not that any normal users have that set
[03:30] <flaccid> soz
[03:30] <flaccid> don't worry i'm just blabbing
[03:30] <stdin> hehe
[03:30] <flaccid> focus on your iso :)
[03:30] <flaccid> sounds like fun
[03:31] <dromer> !cedega
[03:31] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:32] <ForMatter> Mr.Flacid i need your help..How to i want to make a ping with between some computer with shell programming..
[03:33] <dromer> refrase your question (or maybe find a channel in your native language), what are you trying ?
[03:33] <ForMatter> Flaccid
[03:33] <stdin> shell programming or shell scripting ?
[03:34] <bobdhicks> With help here, tried installing monkeyaudioplugin. Seemed ok through ./configure, but many warnings and errors with make. Here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16118/. Would someone suggest what I do now? Thanks.
[03:35] <ForMatter> I am sorry with my languange..With shell programming..
[03:35] <flaccid> um put the command in a shell script
[03:36] <ForMatter> Yes,but i dont know about the shell script..
[03:36] <flaccid> header is #!/bin/sh
[03:36] <flaccid> lean about shel scripting
[03:36] <flaccid> !find shell
[03:36] <ubotu> Found: coreutils, kviewshell, csh, dbishell, gforge-shell-ldap (and 15 others)
[03:36] <stdin> ForMatter: commandline ping = ping
[03:36] <_Johny> !find autostart
[03:36] <ubotu> Found: kcontrol-autostart
[03:36] <flaccid> !shell
[03:36] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:36] <flaccid> there you go ForMatter^
[03:37] <stdin> ForMatter: eg: "ping -c1 host" will ping "host" 1 time
[03:37] <_Johny> anything about making apps launch after system boots?
[03:37] <stdin> _Johny: system wide, or just for your user?
[03:38] <_Johny> stdin: system wide
[03:38] <_Johny> stdin: ehm...both if possible
[03:39] <flaccid> what do you runna run on boot?
[03:39] <ForMatter> Thanks flacid..
[03:40] <flaccid> thank stdin
[03:40] <_Johny> flaccid: I'd like to learn an easy way to add some apps to my autaostart (can be terminal as well)
[03:40] <flaccid> he gave you the example which you'll need to do otherwise the script is infinite until kill
[03:40] <drkns> hello again
[03:40] <flaccid> but which apps _Johny?
[03:40] <_Johny> drkns: HI
[03:41] <_Johny> flaccid: Katapult, for example
[03:41] <stdin> _Johny: for KDE you put links to applications you want to start in ~/.kde/Autostart/ (only really good for GUI apps)
[03:41] <drkns> i managed to light up my wirelesscard however i need to modify some config files under etc/ folder and ofcourse it wont let me update that file since it does not see me as sudo
[03:41] <drkns> is it possible to get su mode and edit this file visually??
[03:41] <stdin> _Johny: the package "kcontrol-autostart" will give you a GUI to do that, or you can do it in command line
[03:42] <WillLuongo> drkns: use kdesu and edit it
[03:42] <_Johny> drkns: kdesu
[03:42] <flaccid> !autostart
[03:42] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:42] <_Johny> flaccid: thanks
[03:42] <flaccid> _Johny: you can do it via konqueror for gui i think
[03:42] <drkns> hgimm thanks again fellas
[03:42] <flaccid> "Link to Application"
[03:42] <stdin> yeah, that will work
[03:42] <flaccid> Katapult is definately a user kde session only think
[03:42] <_Johny> flaccid: means sym link doesn't it?
[03:42] <stdin> kde will read .desktop files too
[03:43] <flaccid> think=thing.
[03:43] <flaccid> yep John
[03:43] <_Johny> ok
[03:43] <flaccid> thats pretty cool
[03:43] <flaccid> .desktop files become handy and portable
[03:43] <flaccid> cheers stdin
[03:43] <stdin> :)
[03:43] <flaccid> ironically
[03:43] <flaccid> that file is parsed to stdin
[03:43] <flaccid> so no wonder you knew
[03:44] <stdin> everything goes to stdin :P
[03:44] <_Johny> I really like the katapult idea
[03:44] <flaccid> ol
[03:44] <flaccid> lol
[03:44] <flaccid> my l key is stuck from beer!
[03:44] <_Johny> Just for curiosity - Does Gnome has an app similiar to "katapult"?
[03:44] <flaccid> what about stdout
[03:44] <stdin> my keys are brown now, from all the coffee I spill on them :)
[03:45] <flaccid> he doesn't get passed to you at al stdin. probably a good thing :p
[03:45] <flaccid> well actually it good but its not a good practice
[03:45] <stdin> _Johny: no clue, I never use gnome for long, just long enough to install KDE
[03:45] <flaccid> yeah this is on my notebook its like risky but has survived
[03:46] <_Johny> fine
[03:46] <drkns> ok how am i going to get kdesu to work here???
[03:46] <flaccid> drkns: work where sorry
[03:46] <stdin> drkns: are you in the admin group?
[03:46] <drkns> i opened the file and made changes to it but cant save it
[03:47] <WillLuongo> drkns: you should be able to cd to the directory with the file you edit, then kdesu kate filename
[03:47] <flaccid> drkns: you will need to reopen it under the right user as in root. however you can save a copy then copy back.
[03:47] <drkns> thanks guys
[03:47] <eagles0513875> how do i stop the x server so that i can install the nvidia driver from nvidia
[03:47] <drkns> yes i am admin
[03:48] <jbruckman> !kde
[03:48] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[03:48] <jbruckman> !monitor
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: go to tty1 (Crtl-Alt-F1) then loggin and type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[03:48] <flaccid> eagles0513875: you don't need to stop the x server. only restart it when you have the new config ready
[03:48] <jbruckman> hey everyone, i'm having some troubles
[03:48] <flaccid> as per stdin
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: but use the driver from ubuntu instead
[03:48] <flaccid> replace stop with restart :)
[03:48] <eagles0513875> it wont let me install it though flacid
[03:48] <stdin> eagles0513875: it's more stable
[03:48] <eagles0513875> y stdin
[03:48] <jbruckman> I just got my nvidia card to work correctly using the restricted modules and stuff, but now I can't get the right screen resolution
[03:49] <flaccid> eagles0513875: install what exactly?
[03:49] <eagles0513875> ok when i did that it screwed up my whole system
[03:49] <flaccid> need specifics
[03:49] <eagles0513875> install the driver so that direct rendering goes from being no to yes
[03:49] <flaccid> um
[03:49] <stdin> jbruckman: tried reconfiguring the X server?
[03:49] <jbruckman> I can only have 640x800 or whatever, and a much bigger one, but the bigger one basically extends the desktop so that moving the mouse around just movesa 640x800 desktop around... I dunno how to describe it exactly
[03:49] <jbruckman> stdin: dunno how.
[03:50] <flaccid> feel free to show xorg.conf or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:50] <stdin> jbruckman: open a console or switch to a termanal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[03:51] <flaccid> jbruckman: and if that fails come back to us for manual config of the forementioned files
[03:51] <stdin> jbruckman: and notice the space between "xserver-xorg" and "-phigh"
[03:51] <jbruckman> i know how flags work.
[03:51] <jbruckman> :|
[03:51] <jbruckman> thanks.
[03:51] <WillLuongo> jbruckman:sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <WillLuongo> stdin: what does the -phigh do?
[03:51] <WillLuongo> stdin: I got my prefered resolution back without it?
[03:52] <stdin> WillLuongo: the -phigh only shows questions with a "high" or higher priority (ie the driver selection and the resolution)
[03:52] <WillLuongo> stdin: So basically you have to wade through less menus?
[03:53] <flaccid> thats a sweet switch
[03:53] <stdin> WillLuongo: exactly :)
[03:53] <flaccid> i didn't know that!!
[03:53] <flaccid> far out
[03:53] <WillLuongo> stdin: Nice. I wish I had known about that!
[03:53] <flaccid> so no sync ranges, stdin?
[03:53] <stdin> flaccid: no, that's at a lower priority
[03:54] <WillLuongo> stdin, flaccid: on the Nvidia driver you can skip that by selecting medium rather than advanced.
[03:54] <eagles0513875> what nvidia pkg should i download
[03:54] <flaccid> ok thanks
[03:54] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: what kind of card do you have/
[03:54] <eagles0513875> 6600 gt
[03:55] <eagles0513875> i have the driver from nvidia but it wants me to shutdown the xserver befor i install it
[03:55] <stdin> eagles0513875: nvidia-glx (for newer cards) or nvidia-glx-legacy (for older cards), info on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:55] <ubuntu> does anybody know what the default password is on the 5.1 Live DVD
[03:55] <eagles0513875> i downloaded the new glx driver and it screwed up my whole installation
[03:56] <stdin> ubuntu: there isn't one
[03:56] <ubuntu> yes there is
[03:56] <ubuntu> when i go on standby
[03:56] <ubuntu> not at login
[03:56] <stdin> ubuntu: no, there isn't one, sorry
[03:56] <ubuntu> no
[03:56] <ubuntu> there's no way for me to return to the desktop after going on standby
[03:56] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: what he said. I think you just want nvidia-glx though.
[03:57] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: When I updated my nvidia drivers (i needed legacy) I had to manually reconfigure them afterwards.
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ahhhh
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[03:57] <stdin> ubuntu: you can switch to a terminal and set one tho, Ctrl-Alt-F1, and type "sudo passwd ubuntu"
[03:57] <ubuntu> it  has one user selection, "ubuntu" and a blank password will not work
[03:57] <eagles0513875> is there a wiki on how to set them up
[03:57] <ubuntu> thanks
[03:57] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: you should be able to just go medium with all defaults
[03:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[03:58] <ubuntu> does switching terminals work while x is running?
[03:58] <ubuntu> I thought that usually killed x
[03:58] <eagles0513875> to install the nvidia driver just do sudo bash then name of file
[03:58] <stdin> ubuntu: no, default X runs on tty7, leaving tty1-6 as terminals
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:59] <eagles0513875> is there a simple x cmd to stop x cuz the cmds i was given here dont seem to work
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: you could boot into terminal.
[03:59] <eagles0513875> how
[03:59] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: when you get to the login screen, click the list thing on the left. Console or terminal will be one of your choices.
[04:00] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[04:00] <eagles0513875> gotcha ty
[04:00] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: yw
[04:00] <eagles0513875> im not fully awak yet this am
[04:00] <ubuntu> startx seems buggy from the terminal for me
[04:01] <ubuntu> on the livecd
[04:01] <stdin> why do you need to do startx on a livecd?
[04:01] <ubuntu> I'm on someone elses laptop, and windows vista is worthless.
[04:02] <ubuntu> sorry, too many dialogs at once here
[04:03] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: Windows vista is worthless.
[04:03] <stdin> ubuntu: btw, 5.10 is a very old version, use 6.06 or 6.10 (or even 7.04 now)
[04:03] <ubuntu> Is there a way to create a custom live DVD that contains a password so that I can return from standby without rebooting?
[04:04] <ubuntu> or without setting a new password each time?
[04:05] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: I think there is some way to combine a live CD with settings stored on a flash drive, but I don't know how to do it.
[04:05] <stdin> ubuntu: there us a way, but it's a bit involved, I think I can find you a link to a howto
[04:08] <ubuntu> hmm. . . sudo passwd ubuntu works
[04:08] <ubuntu> a new passwd on each boot will keep things secure I guess
[04:09] <WillLuongo> ubuntu: Why don't you commit to a hard drive install?
[04:09] <stdin> ubuntu: you can use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization to do it, and set the password while in the chroot, but I've never tried it, and don't know if it will work
[04:11] <bobstro> ubuntu: you want to regularly boot ubuntu off his vista machine then?
[04:12] <bobstro> ubuntu: there have been articles about installing ubuntu onto a USB stick, then saving config details there.
[04:12] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[04:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:12] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: anyluck?
[04:13] <eagles0513875> i needed to download libc pkg
[04:13] <eagles0513875> goign to try again
[04:13] <eagles0513875> brb yet again
[04:15] <markrian> Is it possible for kwallet to be opened automatically after logging in? gnome-keyring has this ability, with the help of libpam-keyring. The only reference to such a thing I've found is over two years old. Any ideas?
[04:16] <flaccid> markrian: i'd ask that in #kde but you can always use autostart for sessions
[04:17] <Tm_T> anyone with extra time, please do http://test.openusability.org/UCCASS/survey.php?sid=43
[04:18] <czer323> markrian, I changed my password to a blank password for kwallet, and now it doesn't ask to be entered every time i turn the computer on.  It's the only thing I could find.
[04:21] <markrian> flaccid: already on it ;o
[04:21] <markrian> czer323: I'd rather not leave kwallet's password blank...!
[04:22] <bobstro> markrian: is kwallet simply not starting automatically?
[04:22] <czer323> markrian, lol, well, if you figure something out, relay it back to me too. ;)
[04:22] <bobstro> markrian: you've got it enabled, right?
[04:25] <_Johny> !find PATH
[04:25] <ubotu> Found: chrpath, iputils-tracepath, libgcj7-dev, libkpathsea-dev, libkpathsea4 (and 41 others)
[04:25] <_Johny> How can I add a line to my $PATH?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> the various bash guides/docs detail that.. in short you EXPORT the new PATH variable with the extra dir added to the end or beginning
[04:26] <Dr_willis> export PATH=$PATH:New/Path/TO/Add
[04:26] <Dr_willis> I think thats right.
[04:27] <Dr_willis> use 'echo $PATH' to see what your current PATH is.
[04:27] <_Johny> Dr_willis: Thank you very much and sorry for a out of topic question
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Bash fundamentals. :)
[04:28] <bobstro> _Johny: ~/.bashrc is probably a good place for that to go.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !abs
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <markrian> bobstro: sure, kwallet's enabled... but it seems to me that it should open automatically immediately after loggin in to KDE, which it doesn't
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !bash
[04:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:28] <bobstro> markrian: ah, ok. wanted to make sure i understood what you were after.
[04:28] <_Johny> Dr_willis: I'm still learning:)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> The 'advanced bash scripting guide' is worth googling for and bookmarking.  I think its also in the repos so you can install it locally.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> That O'reialy book 'Using Bash' is also very very well worth gettting if you want to increase your Bash-Fu-Skills.
[04:29] <bobstro> _Johny: you might want to read the INVOCATION section in the bash manpage for where to put some of those sorts of things.
[04:30] <bobstro> markrian: i've got ssh-add launching in same way. i think that's what you're after right? just have it pop up and ask right away?
[04:30] <_Johny> bobstro: thanks
[04:31] <bobstro> _Johny: if you look at your ~/.bash_profile, i believe it does what you're looking for.
[04:31] <markrian> bobstro: not really, I want kwallet to be smart enough to know that after logging in, I've already correctly identified myself, and should have to do so again to access my passwords
[04:31] <markrian> Erm, SHOULDN'T have to do so I mean
[04:31] <bobstro> _Johny: but ~/.bashrc (also called from ubuntu ~/.bash_profile) is called for all shells.
[04:32] <bobstro> markrian: ah, ok.
[04:32] <_Johny> Dr_willis: Thank you , I managed
[04:33] <bobstro> i suppose there's some logic behind the various bash rc files, but it can be annoying.
[04:33] <adamwood> has anyone in here bought a new pc or laptop with kubuntu pre-installed?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> bobstro,  part of it is the 'history' of how the shell has progressed. and files kept around for backwards compatiability
[04:34] <Dr_willis> bobstro,  in short. one file .bash_profile - is ran by 'login' shells , the other .bashrc is ran by all the other shells.
[04:35] <Dr_willis> of course what different disrtos do with those files.. can get confusing.
[04:35] <bobstro> Dr_willis: true. it's just maddening when different distributions do things differently (e.g. sourcing -- or not -- .bashrc from .bash_profile)
[04:35] <Dr_willis> yep.  Then you got the various alias's and bash-completion features that may or may not be enabled.
[04:35] <bobstro> Dr_willis: *most* seem to be doing that, at least.
[04:36] <Dr_willis> then you got the 'fancy' ways some are using /etc/ and dirs to keep all these alias files and other setting  files seperate instead of one huge file
[04:37] <bobstro> Dr_willis: i spent a lot of time on shell scripting, but am trying to mend my ways. :) beating my head up against python now.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> I know REXX better then i do most other scripting languages. :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> old-skool
[04:38] <bobstro> er... that was the IBM stuff, right?
[04:38] <bobstro> 1990-ish?
[04:38] <bobstro> sorry, i'll drift OT with you if you let me.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> I used it on my AMIGA. :)
[04:39] <bobstro> hehe, ok. my mind is going.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> it was a darn handy 'glue' back then to get stuff from the editors to the database programs and so forth.
[04:39] <bobstro> all those glorious "standards" pre-MS dominance.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> a feature i sort of miss in linux apps.
[04:40] <bobstro> i need to find a #nostalgic_geek channel
[04:40] <Tm_T> ...
[04:41] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:41] <Daisuke_IPFW> well now, it looks like i finally managed to get ssh working :)
[04:41] <Zoohouse> Is there a way/player that can play DRM mp3s? I would like to listen to an ebook but I need something to play the drm files
[04:41] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: good deal. what were you doing?
[04:42] <Zoohouse> My mistake, I mean DRM WMA files, not MP3
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: just got it set up so i can get to what i need on the home pc from the restrictive connections at school.
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> poor kai
[04:42] <cl187> anyone know how i can use the apt command from shell to update kernel and do i need any special repositories?
[04:42] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah fun. have you got a socks proxy going yet?
[04:42] <stdin> Zoohouse: no, DRM and Linux don't work
[04:42] <bobstro> Zoohouse: seriously, boycot the DRM stuff!
[04:42] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: not yet, i suppose i should probably figure out how, huh?
[04:43] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: check out the -D option. you may be in violation of school policy though.
[04:43] <Tm_T> that was bit noisy one
[04:44] <Daisuke_IPFW> hmm, one thing i haven't figured out is multiple terminal sessions in putty
[04:44] <Layer8> hi all
[04:44] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: then use konsole :)
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i awways just use 'screen'
[04:44] <Layer8> some samba-people here?
[04:44] <Daisuke_IPFW> stdin: would be nice if i were on a linux machine :)
[04:44] <eean> hehe yea, I've never used putty in linux
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Layer8,  lots of samba users :)
[04:44] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: ahh, then screen is the way for you
[04:45] <Layer8> Dr_willis yeah...but sone samba and kerberos pros?
[04:45] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: with putty, you can just duplicate the session, but you have to re-auth for each.
[04:45] <Daisuke_IPFW> that's what i figured
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Layer8,  ive never used Kerberos - so cant help ya there.
[04:45] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: although you could use keys, ssh-add if you don't want to log in for each.
[04:46] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: screen lets you login once, but have multiple shells going
[04:46] <Daisuke_IPFW> screen, huh
[04:46] <stdin> !screen
[04:46] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[04:46] <bobstro> stdin: aye, and you can leave sessions running when you exit!
[04:46] <Douglas> hi.. i got intel video in my laptop, i'd like to get the console into high-res mode. I did this with ati once, think it involved some framebuffer thing. any ideas?
[04:46] <Daisuke_IPFW> i'd rather not leave any sessions running
[04:46] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: definitely check it out if you want to launch stuff, come back to it later.
[04:46] <stdin> yep, then reattach from another location too :)
[04:46] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: you essentially background them. certainly not required.
[04:47] <Zoohouse> bobstro: ehhhh I guess you'r right... damn audio books....
[04:47] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: you just want remote shell, or to get out for other reasons?
[04:48] <bobstro> Zoohouse: DRM is evil. completely contrary to the whole "computing ethic". they want you to be a subscriber to listen.
[04:48] <Daisuke_IPFW> i was just looking for a remote shell
[04:48] <bobstro> Zoohouse: you can buy CD audiobooks and just rip them as an alternative. which DRM/audiobooks?
[04:48] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I speak with an Freenode admin?
[04:48] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah, ok. then i guess you're set already.
[04:48] <stdin> Zoohouse: only way to get rid of DRM (without using some illegal software) that I know of it burning the files to CD (as audio disk, not data disk), then re-rip them
[04:49] <Daisuke_IPFW> it's more or less just a workaround for the problem of not being able to connect to irc servers via the campus network
[04:49] <bobstro> Zoohouse: audible and others let you burn a cd.
[04:49] <Rebecca> Anyone here used a Logitech Quickcam Express with Kubuntu and if so, was it successful?
[04:49] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: ah, then set up a socks proxy with putty and you can use a pretty desktop gui irc client.
[04:49] <LeeJunFan> FJ_Sanchez: if you go to the freenode page in the FAQ section it mentions a channel - #staff possibly?
[04:49] <ForMatter> Bobstro,i want ask about shell programming to do ping with each computer in my network..
[04:49] <FJ_Sanchez> LeeJunFan: Thanks, I should check this page
[04:50] <bobstro> ForMatter: you just want to ping, or you want to do something depending on whether it responded?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  you want to do exactly what - with pinging each computer?
[04:50] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: join #freenode-social and ask for a staffer
[04:50] <Daisuke_IPFW> bobstro: i'll have to look into it, but i'm more or less okay with irssi
[04:50] <pooof> its kubuntu 7.10 estable?
[04:50] <Daisuke_IPFW> pooof: magic 8-ball says "try again in 6 months"
[04:50] <FJ_Sanchez> stdin: I tried this channel, but I cannot speak. no voice
[04:50] <bobstro> ForMatter: ping provides a return code, or you might want something else.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> pooof: hasnt been started yet. 7.04 is current rc
[04:50] <Zoohouse> bobstro: yea but audio books are expansive. I am trying to listen to the books on Librarynet.com. They use DRM as a way to check out econtent like a physical library.
[04:50] <VSpike> ForMatter: if you want to test which hosts are up, you could try nmap
[04:50] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: wait a while, you'll get voice, or you can PM a staffer too
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> pooof: well, it's to be released in 2 days I think, so for all intents and purposes what I'm using now is final.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> So far im finding the beta/current version of Feisty to work fine
[04:51] <ForMatter> With shell progamming, i want make a script that can ping to other computer..
[04:51] <pooof> tnx
[04:51] <bobstro> Zoohouse: ah, not sure about those. hmm. get a player that has mic record and hold it up to the speakers? :)
[04:51] <FJ_Sanchez> stdin: How can I know who are staffers?
[04:51] <bobstro> Zoohouse: or use line-in.
[04:51] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: look here http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  ok.. and what else is this script to do?
[04:51] <FJ_Sanchez> There is no one OP
[04:51] <bobstro> ForMatter: you can just do the ping command in your script as others suggested earlier if that's all you want.
[04:52] <bobstro> ForMatter: or you can have it branch and do things depending on success/failure of ping.
[04:52] <stdin> FJ_Sanchez: /who freenode/staff/* will give you a list
[04:52] <Zoohouse> bobstro: haha yea :D
[04:52] <bobstro> ForMatter: you might want to use fping, since it's meant more for scripts.
[04:53] <VSpike> ForMatter: hate to say, but at least half the problem with programming is clearly defining and undertanding the problem/requirements
[04:53] <ForMatter> Bobstro : i want how to make a ping to other computer with shell script..And if it worked can display message with ourself..
[04:53] <Daisuke_IPFW> hmm
[04:53] <bobstro> VSpike: unless you're in marketing.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> ForMatter,  check out 'fping' then.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !info fping
[04:53] <ubotu> fping: sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4b2-to-ipv6-14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 120 kB
[04:53] <Daisuke_IPFW> putty supports X11 forwarding, going to have to figure out how that works with windows.
[04:54] <VSpike> bobstro: true :) in which case, at least half the problem is the stupid programmers who get all mathy when you tell them what you promised the customer he could have next week
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  you need to use somthing like 'xming' to let X have some place to forward to. :)
[04:54] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: if you use the socks client capability, you can use any socks-aware app through your tunnel.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  been doing that for months now.
[04:54] <stdin> Daisuke_IPFW: you need to install a X server for windows to get it working, I have done it before
[04:54] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: are computers at school win or linux?
[04:54] <Daisuke_IPFW> win
[04:54] <Daisuke_IPFW> home pc's linux
[04:55] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: x under windows is cool, but if you just want to use otherwise-blocked win apps, the socks proxy is perfect.
[04:55] <bobstro> Daisuke_IPFW: think of it as poor-man's VPN via ssh.
[04:55] <Daisuke_IPFW> heh
[04:55] <ForMatter> Bobstro : i need the source shell script..
[04:55] <VSpike> I use xming + openssh + cygwin to remote access my main box from work (windows) laptop
[04:56] <livingdaylight> ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!
[04:56] <bobstro> ForMatter: check out the bash scripting guides Dr_willis suggested. there's a LOT to that topic that is not specific to ubuntu.
[04:56] <ForMatter> Bobstro : please..I need your help..
[04:57] <mikey> morning folks.  Is there any other file explorer to use than Konq?
[04:57] <bobstro> ForMatter: as VSpike said, please clearly state what exactly you want to do. otherwise, i can only suggest bash scripting guides.
[04:57] <Tm_T> mikey: yes, multiple, like Dolphin
[04:58] <Daisuke_IPFW> dolphin looks promising
[04:58] <Daisuke_IPFW> haven't tried it yet though
[04:58] <mikey> I'll have a look at that one, ty
[04:58] <mikey> konq seems a bit bloated for simply accessing drives and files
[04:58] <bobstro> ForMatter: try here for example - http://steve-parker.org/sh/exitcodes.shtml
[04:59] <Tm_T> mikey: depends, for me it's only "good" filebrowser, for lighter needs I have bash
[04:59] <mikey> Dolphin in standard repos?
[04:59] <Tm_T> !dolphin
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Tm_T> !info dolphin
[04:59] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[04:59] <mikey> bash is command line, yes?
[04:59] <Tm_T> mikey: yes
[05:00] <CapaH> To go from Ubuntu to Kubuntu one merely types: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   correct?
[05:00] <stdin> CapaH: yes
[05:02] <reydelsillon> H people. Ive recently switched over from xp to kubuntu. nice graphics :) - I got 2 hardisk instaled on the machine. a Sata disk and a Ide disk. for some reason i cant see the ide disk (that has a ntfs partition) when im using kubuntu. I thought kubuntu should automount all disk an partitions.
[05:03] <stdin> reydelsillon: what does "sudo fdisk -l" show ( in konsole), post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:03] <stdin> l is a lowercase L
[05:04] <jhutchins> !ntfs | reydelsillon
[05:04] <ubotu> reydelsillon: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:04] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16131/
[05:04] <kubuntu22> !fuse
[05:04] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:04] <Daisuke_IPFW> shouldn't the trigger for ntfs write access be !masochist ?
[05:05] <WillLuongo> Daisuke_IPFW: yes
[05:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: /dev/hdd1 is your NTFS partition
[05:05] <reydelsillon> i want it ofcourse to be read/write :)
[05:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: so follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse and use /dev/hdd1 for the partition
[05:06] <reydelsillon> yes is ee that. but why dont it apear as storage media?
[05:06] <stdin> reydelsillon: because it's not in /etc/fstab maybe
[05:06] <WillLuongo> reydelsillon: there is a .hidden file in / that you need to delete to see it in Konqueror.
[05:07] <stdin> nope
[05:07] <stdin> just edit it
[05:07] <stdin> don't delete it
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[05:07] <ubotu> Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:07] <reydelsillon> im gonna read the guide first.
[05:07] <reydelsillon> I BE BACK!
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Its such a good feature its being removed! :)
[05:07] <WillLuongo> Dr_willis: too bad Microsoft won't do that.
[05:08] <stdin> hmm, that needs a 's/will be/has been/' soon
[05:09] <WillLuongo> stdin: /.hidden is symbolic link - we should probably not edit the link, but rather suggest users to remove symbolic link and replace it with empty /.hidden file or only list files they want have hidden. -- LukaRenko 2006-10-27 17:50:37
[05:09] <mikey> ntfs-3g unsafe?  Guess I should tread lightly I've ben using it a few weeks
[05:09] <reydelsillon>  ---- shoudl i enter this comand as it is? or does the line start with sudo?bash:~$ sudo modprobe fuse
[05:09] <stdin> WillLuongo: no, because the upgrade will remove the symlink, and if it's not there, dpkg has an error
[05:10] <Dr_willis> bash:~$  - is the example SHELL PROMPT.
[05:10] <WillLuongo> stdin: I see.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> the command is after the $
[05:10] <reydelsillon> ah ok.
[05:10] <JuJuBee> Someone help me with iptables?  Before vacation, I had a server running dansguardian squid and iptables working fine.  When I returned the server was off (power outage) and my students cannot access the internet.  iptables -L -v shows no rules set.
[05:10] <WillLuongo> Is it worth upgrading to feisty?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> WillLuongo,  if you need its features - yes. :) if you dont need any of its features.. i guess not.
[05:11] <JuJuBee> I had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[05:11] <stdin> WillLuongo: I'd wait untill it comes out, just in case
[05:11] <JuJuBee> It does not seem to take now when I enter it.
[05:11] <WillLuongo> Dr_willis: other than the directory hidden feature, what has changed?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> WillLuongo,  about every thing has been updated to the latest versions. :)
[05:12] <stdin> and kernel 2.6.20 is faster than 2.6.17 (IMO)
[05:12] <Dr_willis> so.. i guess you could say about eveyrthing has changed..
[05:14] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:14] <livingdaylight> Is Kubuntu rocking?
[05:14] <reydelsillon> i dont understand
[05:15] <kubuntu22> livingdaylight: yes
[05:15] <livingdaylight> whenever i mention Ubuntu+kde people tell me to use Mepis
[05:15] <bobstro> JuJuBee: did you have that in an init script?
[05:15] <Daisuke_IPFW> ...why in $DEITY's name would they do that?
[05:15] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:15] <Daisuke_IPFW> i seriously doubt anyone here would have told you that.
[05:15] <JuJuBee> bobstro : no, how do I make the rules set at startup?
[05:15] <livingdaylight> is the new kde 3.5.5 really awesome?
[05:15] <bobstro> livingdaylight: i used meps a couple of years ago. it's fine, but i much prefer kubuntu.
[05:16] <Daisuke_IPFW> the "new" kde is 3.5.6, and it's nice.
[05:16] <reydelsillon> bad file.... here! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16134/
[05:16] <livingdaylight> bobstro: what makes you say that? I heard many times that Mepis does kde better
[05:16] <mikey> debian seems a bit faster than kubuntu.  Anyone have the same experience?
[05:16] <bobstro> JuJuBee: usually, you launch your firewall etc. in the initscripts at book. ubuntu comes with several programs that will help with this (e.g. firestarter).
[05:16] <livingdaylight> i've always used gnome and therefore ubuntu, but i might like to check out kde 3.5.5 see what is going on that is new
[05:17] <stdin> reydelsillon: you need to make the directory first "sudo mkdir /media/hdd1"
[05:17] <JuJuBee> I'm new to setting up a firewall, should I install firestarter on server?
[05:17] <bobstro> livingdaylight: kde, perhaps. the problem -- and again this was two years ago -- was that mepis wasn't "exactly debian", so i found things broke. same can be said for kubuntu, but MUCH BROADER support.
[05:17] <livingdaylight> Kubuntu is a bit of a secondary project at Canonical?
[05:17] <bobstro> JuJuBee: to be clear - you want to set up a NAT firewall for classroom machines, right?
[05:18] <reydelsillon> ah..... ther it is
[05:18] <bobstro> JuJuBee: you want to redirect them to a proxy?
[05:18] <JuJuBee> I simply want to redirect all port 80 traffic to go through Dandguardian and Squid.
[05:18] <JuJuBee> I want a transparent proxy.
[05:18] <reydelsillon> nice. now i need to have access to it. i have no permition to write/read on it.
[05:18] <stdin> livingdaylight: no, kubuntu = ((ubuntu-gnome)+kde). it's as official as ubuntu is
[05:18] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ah. there are howtos on that. i think what happened is that your iptables commands weren't in a script to be re-run at boot.
[05:19] <reydelsillon> and make the change permanent
[05:19] <mikey> works calls.  see all later.
[05:19] <reydelsillon> thats the fstab file, right? and use this comand? -/dev/hda1     /media/hda1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1002,umask=0007       0       0
[05:19] <JuJuBee> bobstro : I think so too.  When I tried to enter the command, iptables still shows empty.
[05:19] <JuJuBee> I had  ---  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080
[05:19] <JuJuBee> When I enter it now, still empty...
[05:20] <bobstro> JuJuBee: no errors then?
[05:20] <livingdaylight> Should Adept be immediately ditched and replaced in favour of Synaptic?
[05:20] <bobstro> JuJuBee: my iptables is rusty... but i thought port stuff wasn't in nat. lemme check.
[05:20] <JuJuBee> No errors.
[05:20] <livingdaylight> stdin: no way. Gnome is ubuntu's first love
[05:21] <JuJuBee> bobstro : all the how-to's say to use -t nat...
[05:21] <stdin> livingdaylight: and your point is?
[05:21] <Daisuke_IPFW> livingdaylight: no, adept should not be ditched
[05:21] <livingdaylight> stdin: that therefore more care goes into ubuntu
[05:21] <stdin> livingdaylight: nope
[05:21] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ok, it's been awhile. and you're doing iptables -nvL -t nat to view?
[05:22] <_Johny> Is anyone using his digital camera in Kubuntu?
[05:22] <stdin> livingdaylight: even mark uses kubunru
[05:22] <livingdaylight> Daisuke_IPFW: last time i used kubuntu everyone avoided adept, it was not as good as synaptic, has it been improved
[05:22] <Daisuke_IPFW> it's gotten a lot better
[05:22] <stdin> mark as in mark shuttleworth
[05:22] <JuJuBee> Ah, was doing iptables -L -v, without the -t nat.  There the little buggers are.
[05:22] <Daisuke_IPFW> especially with the feisty release
[05:22] <livingdaylight> stdin: is that true? or just a rumour?
[05:22] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ah, ok. good. sounds like it *is* being run then.
[05:22] <stdin> livingdaylight: he's said it in interviews
[05:22] <WillLuongo> I am experiencing unusually slow internet connection on my KUBuntu box. Other computers on the network seem unaffected. Any ideas?
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: a long time ago.
[05:23] <stdin> WillLuongo: disable IPv6
[05:23] <bobstro> WillLuongo: no tor proxy?
[05:23] <stdin> livingdaylight: a week or two ago actually
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: maybe he uses SuSE now
[05:23] <WillLuongo> stdin: how can I disable IPv6
[05:23] <stdin> !ipv6 | WillLuongo
[05:23] <ubotu> WillLuongo: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:23] <livingdaylight> stdin: oh, i didn't read that interview, you know where?
[05:24] <reydelsillon> what is the comand for editing fstab?
[05:24] <stdin> livingdaylight: it was a podcast interview, on the linux-action-show, http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=100
[05:24] <reydelsillon> i dont know where its located.
[05:25] <stdin> reydelsillon: (easiest way): kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[05:25] <bobstro> stdin: is that a decent podcast?
[05:25] <bobstro> stdin: i've got too many linux shows already but always can replace a dud.
[05:26] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/
[05:26] <stdin> bobstro: yeah, it's quite a good one, one of the few I regularly listen to
[05:26] <JuJuBee> bobstro : so now that it is in the iptables, I should be able to view the log with tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log , but nothing shows when I try to browse from a student workstation...
[05:26] <bobstro> stdin: thanks, adding it tomy list.
[05:26] <bobstro> JuJuBee: nothing shows, as in it fails?
[05:26] <livingdaylight> stdin: thanks amigo
[05:26] <stdin> :)
[05:27] <JuJuBee> bobstro : cannot browse from student computer and nothing show sin the log...
[05:27] <WillLuongo> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16136/
[05:27] <WillLuongo> stdin: any ideas?
[05:28] <bobstro> JuJuBee: hmm. ok, that command looks like it just changes the dport, but again i'm rusty with iptables. everything's ok with squid?
[05:28] <stdin> WillLuongo: that's the standard wacom errors, nothing to worry about. you can get rid of them if you want
[05:28] <stdin> !baddevice
[05:28] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[05:28] <JuJuBee> I think so...  How can I check?
[05:28] <bobstro> JuJuBee: *anything* in logs?
[05:28] <reydelsillon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16135/
[05:29] <bobstro> JuJuBee: make sure htey're running etc.
[05:29] <stdin> reydelsillon: yeah, logout of the root session, just type "exit"
[05:29] <JuJuBee> DG and Squid are running.
[05:30] <bobstro> JuJuBee: hmm. i'm looking at this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320733
[05:31] <bobstro> JuJuBee: there is a note about transparent mode broken in edgy. have you upgraded recently?
[05:31] <JuJuBee> Using Feisty
[05:33] <bobstro> JuJuBee: did you use a howto when setting it up? also, has it worked since you went to feisty (if you upgraded)?
[05:34] <bobstro> JuJuBee: there are a lot of variations in how it can be set up.
[05:34] <JuJuBee> Yes, used a how-to and yes it did work.  only thing that changed was power outage.
[05:34] <bobstro> JuJuBee: ok. which howto?
[05:34] <JuJuBee> Several, Ones from ubuntuforums, and others...
[05:35] <bobstro> JuJuBee: the power outage makes me think an init script isn't getting run, but it sounds like at least your iptables setup ran.
[05:36] <WillLuongo> brb
[05:36] <wienczny_> hi
[05:37] <wienczny_> Where can I configure the items shown in the kde-logout screen?
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: i had expected to see a destination IP in that iptables command but that probably varies by setup.
[05:38] <reydelsillon> what does this mean? root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[05:38] <reydelsillon> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[05:38] <JuJuBee> bobstro : funny thing is that I can browse to an internal webserver, just not outside the classroom.
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: it looks to me like that iptables command is re-writing the destination PORT but not the IP.
[05:38] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[05:38] <stdin> reydelsillon: just add an empty new line to the end of /etc/fstab
[05:38] <bobstro> JuJuBee: are all the outside access requests going through your linux box?
[05:39] <JuJuBee> Yes, all requests...
[05:39] <JuJuBee> I am hijacking port 80 traffic and filtering it.
[05:39] <bobstro> JuJuBee: again, looks like dest port is being re-written, but *not* redirecting to the proxy IP. not knowing your setup, i'm speculating here.
[05:39] <bobstro> JuJuBee: well, you're definitely re-writing the dest port.
[05:39] <reydelsillon> ok its passed.
[05:39] <reydelsillon> thanks
[05:40] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:40] <bobstro> JuJuBee: i'd have expected it to also specificy the proxy IP address in the re-write. looking at that, i suspect a tcpdump on the outside would show the request going to destination in URL but with dest port 8080.
[05:41] <Rebecca> is there an option for setting up a software based, 2 drive striped raid array when installing?
[05:41] <JuJuBee> bobstro : sorry, you lost me...
[05:41] <wienczny_> I would like to forbid some users to do a shutdown from the kde-logout dialog. how can I do that?
[05:41] <bobstro> JuJuBee: your iptables command doesnt' specify a destination IP, just a port to re-write.
[05:42] <JuJuBee> corret, but port 8080 is dansquardian.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: but on what machine?
[05:42] <JuJuBee> Same.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: and what is telling NAT that?
[05:42] <JuJuBee> dg, squid, iptables all on same machine.
[05:42] <bobstro> JuJuBee: sorry, not trying to confuse.
[05:43] <WillLuongo> I removed the wacom and ipv6 and reset. Now I don't have graphical login (KDM/
[05:43] <bobstro> JuJuBee: but... that nat command appears to re-write ONLY the dest port.
[05:43] <WillLuongo> and I can't startx
[05:43] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:43] <bobstro> JuJuBee: in other words, was there a 2nd iptables command perhaps?'
[05:43] <JuJuBee> No, I only had the one.
[05:44] <bobstro> JuJuBee: is eth0 your INSIDE or OUTSIDE interface?
[05:44] <_Johny> The problem is, when I switch to another session, or try to lock one my screen goes black, everything hangs and the unique solution is to reboot the machine..
[05:44] <_Johny> I'm using 2.6.17-11-generic kernel and running Kubuntu edgy 6.10 with fglrx drivers
[05:45] <bobstro> JuJuBee: for example, in http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html they show "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to <IP_ADDRESS>:3128" (note the dest ip) for the INSIDE interface.
[05:45] <JuJuBee> Currently both until I receive another ethernet card.
[05:45] <maki> i have problem with alsa
[05:45] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:45] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:45] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: cat you post the end of /var/log/Xorg.log to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:46] <maki> arecord
[05:46] <maki> ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:558:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
[05:46] <maki> arecord: main:550: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[05:46] <JuJuBee> bobstro : yes.  some how-to's use -DNAT and others do not.  The one I followed did not and it worked.  AT lease it worked last week.
[05:46] <bobstro> JuJuBee: er, wait. is this linux box a router to the outside?
[05:46] <lyam> where can i set path to java in firefox? it seems firefox cant find it
[05:46] <WillLuongo> wienczny: I am not on the KUbuntu computer. Is there a way to do that from a terminal?
[05:47] <bobstro> JuJuBee: this one DOES use DNAT though - "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp dport 80 -j DNAT to <IP_ADDRESS>:3128" (what you wrote earlier).
[05:47] <bobstro> er wups
[05:47] <bobstro> wrong paste, sorry
[05:47] <JuJuBee> bobstro : not exactly.  It is attached to my wifi router (switch on back).  All workstations are using wireless.
[05:47] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: mmh. should be.
[05:47] <JuJuBee> No, I did not use DNAT.
[05:47] <HymnToLife> WillLuongo, not on the Ubuntu pastebin (that I know of) but you could always put it somewhere else
[05:47] <JuJuBee> --to-port 8080
[05:47] <jhutchins> WillLuongo:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:47] <bobstro> JuJuBee: yeah, my bad.
[05:48] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Are you accessing the system vi ssh or telnet?
[05:48] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I am sitting at a computer next to the one with Kubuntu
[05:48] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: so I am directly logged in, with no GUI
[05:49] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Ok, so ... were you asking how to get the X.0.log info to the pastebin?
[05:49] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: From the terminal, yes.
[05:49] <jhutchins> try less +G /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:49] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: do you have ssh etc. running on the ubuntu-machine? then you could copy it over and past from the win machine...
[05:50] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I do not know
[05:50] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: You should be able to copy text from the terminal and paste it to the pastebin.
[05:50] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: how do I get to pastebin with no web browser?
[05:51] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Oh. So the computer you're on is not actually logged in to the linux box.
[05:51] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:51] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[05:51] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: correct.
[05:51] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: enter the command lynx, see if it does anything.
[05:51] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I am using my windows box to ask for help with my broken Kubuntu box. :D
[05:51] <WillLuongo> lynx?
[05:51] <WillLuongo> ok
[05:51] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: get winscp or putty an login to the ubuntu-machine.
[05:51] <bobstro> JuJuBee: well, without knowing more details, all i can suggest is looking at that iptables command. i just entered it, and it re-writes the ports but not the destination ip.
[05:52] <bobstro> JuJuBee: also if that machine is not the gateway, do you need to set up browsers to use it as a proxy?
[05:52] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: nope
[05:53] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do I need to do anythign to turn on ssh?
[05:53] <JuJuBee> That machine is currently set as teh gateway for the computers
[05:53] <bobstro> JuJuBee: again, a lot varies depending on how you set it up. sorry i can't help more.
[05:53] <wienczny_> I'm not sure if ssh is installed by default...
[05:53] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: You may need to do /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:53] <jhutchins> wienczny_: Installed but not active iirc.
[05:54] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: it says no such file or directory.
[05:54] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: can I apt-get?
[05:54] <wienczny_> jhutchins: openssh-server ist installed?
[05:54] <jhutchins> You can also install telnetd.
[05:55] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Yes.  If you don't have an ssh client on your windows box, install telnetd instead.
[05:55] <WillLuongo> jhutchins: I have ssh client, but no server on Kubuntu it appears
[05:55] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: aptitude install openssh-server should do that
[05:56] <jhutchins> Not sure telnetd actually does anything useful, glad you have ssh.
[05:58] <reydelsillon> stdin: you here?
[05:59] <stdin> reydelsillon: for a couple mins, yeah
[05:59] <Sharketor> hello all
[05:59] <reydelsillon> i got stuck.
[05:59] <reydelsillon> i double click at the hdd icon and get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[05:59] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do I need to do any configuration?
[05:59] <reydelsillon> must i had this piece to the fstab? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138/  i dont have nvidia........
[06:00] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: it should work out of the box
[06:00] <stdin> reydelsillon: just have the "fuse" part, not the rest
[06:00] <stdin> reydelsillon: and show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows
[06:01] <dwidmann> !!!!!
[06:01] <dwidmann> Crap, not again!
[06:01] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: is a sshd process running?
[06:01] <reydelsillon> stdin: i added fuse to the last line.
[06:02] <reydelsillon> i still get : You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[06:02] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: how can I find out? When I tell it to start it says open fail
[06:02] <stdin> reydelsillon: show what "ls -ld /media/hdd1" shows
[06:02] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: ps aux | grep sshd should give two results
[06:02] <dwidmann> Seems the Nvidia-glx module is broken yet again :( And right on top of release day too
[06:03] <FrozenPlasma> Hello! I just installed Kubuntu 7 without problems - but when i try to boot into kubuntu nothing happens. I can choose the OS in grub an after the black screen with the kubuntu logo appears...but nothing else. Do I have to type sth. before startig? I rememeber sth. like "aspi ??!"?
[06:03] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: yes it does
[06:03] <reydelsillon> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16141/
[06:03] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: one line ending in /usr/sbin/sshd? Then its running and you should be able to connect
[06:04] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: yes
[06:04] <dwidmann> FrozenPlasma: try pressing "Ctrl + alt + F2" and it should give you a terminal, you hope.
[06:04] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: is there a way I can double check my IP?
[06:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: did you add "fuse" to /etc/fstab or /etc/modules ?
[06:05] <hegemon_> hello. I ve got some problems with adept ;/ Can you help me or redirect somewhere else where somebody can help me?
[06:05] <FrozenPlasma> dwidmann: and then?
[06:05] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: ip addr show
[06:05] <reydelsillon> i addes only the line "fuse" to the end of fstab
[06:05] <dwidmann> FrozenPlasma: and then log in, type "startx", and see what error you're getting, supposing you're getting an error when trying to start x
[06:05] <stdin> reydelsillon: no, add it to the end of /etc/modules, not fstab
[06:05] <_Johny> Can "katapult" open a whole album in Amarok?
[06:05] <reydelsillon> ahhhhh ok.
[06:05] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: there ist an entry for eth0 or any other device you are using. there should be a line with your ip
[06:06] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I am in. Turns out I had the wrong IP
[06:06] <FrozenPlasma> ok - i'll try. see you in a few minutes :)
[06:06] <stdin> reydelsillon: then show me the line you added to fatab (the one with /dev/hdd1 on it)
[06:07] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Then just get the contents of the Xorg.0.log and paste it
[06:08] <bobstro> JuJuBee: one last try. do you see rule being hit when you view iptables?
[06:08] <hegemon_> My adept manager won't start. it complains taht some other process is using dbase but i killed all apt and adept related processes. What should I do?
[06:08] <reydelsillon> "fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0
[06:08] <stdin> !aptfix | hegemon_
[06:08] <ubotu> hegemon_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16142/
[06:10] <hegemon_> ubotu: thanks it worked
[06:10] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Thats all?
[06:11] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: That's all the stuff at the end.
[06:11] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: Do you want the whole thing?
[06:11] <reydelsillon> stdin: "fuse" was already in the etc/modules file - i deleted "fuse" from fstab - here is the line : /dev/hdd1     /media/hdd1    ntfs-fuse       auto,gid=1001,umask=0007       0       0    ---- look here. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16143/
[06:12] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: yeah. Those lines are just warnings that should not kill your XServer
[06:12] <stdin> reydelsillon: try "sudo umount /dev/hdd1", then do "sudo mount -a"
[06:13] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16144/
[06:13] <WillLuongo> Whoop
[06:13] <reydelsillon> root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[06:13] <reydelsillon> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[06:13] <WillLuongo> I think I see it
[06:13] <RealisticDragon> woo, i have flash working on PPC with kubuntu :)
[06:13] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: Ah. could you post your xorg.conf plz?
[06:13] <eagles0513875> WillLuongo: the nvidia driver broke my x
[06:13] <eagles0513875> im back in default config
[06:14] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: That happened to me too. Can you still log in with KDM?
[06:14] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors
[06:14] <eagles0513875> nope cant get a login screen nothing
[06:14] <reydelsillon> stdin: root@tulkas-desktop:~# sudo mount -a
[06:14] <reydelsillon> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[06:15] <wienczny_> WillLuongo. I think when you deleted the wacom section you did not remove all references.
[06:15] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I think so too. I am working on it now.
[06:15] <stdin> reydelsillon: hmm
[06:16] <stdin> reydelsillon: did you install ntfsprogs ?
[06:17] <reydelsillon> not that i know of.
[06:17] <stdin> reydelsillon: the 1st instruction on the page "sudo apt-get install libfuse2 ntfsprogs fuse-utils"
[06:18] <reydelsillon> omg. ofcourse. i didnt get that error so i did not do it a couple of mins ago.
[06:18] <reydelsillon> lets see
[06:19] <JuJuBee> how do I reload iptables after I make changes/additions ?
[06:19] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me, i am tryin to boot kubuntu 6.10 and it always freezes saying /dev/hdc errors
[06:20] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: it is not letting me su nano xorg.conf any ideas?
[06:20] <reydelsillon> stdin. i can access the disk now.
[06:20] <stdin> :)
[06:21] <reydelsillon> what is starnge theres no files or folders inside.
[06:21] <wienczny_> WillLuongo: try sudo instead of su ;-)
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: OH! LOL
[06:22] <reydelsillon> stdin: i booted kubuntu and plugged the hardisk and the got into irc and start asking. its no way the data is not there.
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I knew that too...
[06:22] <WillLuongo> wienczny_: I am back in action now. thank you so much for your time.
[06:23] <reydelsillon> im gonna do a quick check from windows ..... /me prays to all gods.
[06:23] <stdin> reydelsillon: I don't know about that, I don't have a ntfs partition to test
[06:23] <wienczny_> WillLuongo. np
[06:23] <acidBURN> is there a way to setup konqueror browser to use firefox extentsion
[06:24] <wienczny_> acidBURN: You could start rewriting konqueror...
[06:24] <jbruckman> so, i tried reconfiguring the xserver, and I'm still where I was. I am using feisty fawn, and since I installed the restricted nvidia drivers, my display hasn't been able to go above 640x800
[06:25] <acidBURN> sure I could.... let me see where my basic disk...
[06:25] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: So you get to a black screen to login?
[06:25] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: when you try startx what happens?
[06:26] <dwidmann> jbruckman: the nvidia driver seems to be givnig all sorts of trouble in feisty atm. I personally am going to roll back to kernel 2.6.20-13 (with related packages too)
[06:26] <jbruckman> dwidmann: sigh... okay. are they working on it, do you know?
[06:26] <wienczny_> acidBURN: konqueror is completly different to firefox. firefox ist build on XUL and gecko. konqueror uses qt4. You don't have a chance to get a firefox extension to run on konqueror
[06:26] <underdog5004> I just downloaded a .run file. how can I use it? It's a game installer, btw.
[06:27] <eagles0513875> no screen whatso ever just a curso blinking and that is it
[06:27] <dwidmann> jbruckman: not sure
[06:27] <TonyTone17> can anyone help me? i am having errors while tryin to boot the kubuntu 6.10 - it freezes giving i/o errors on dev/hdc
[06:27] <acidBURN> that the kicker... konqueror is great... however... it lacks in the browser dept.
[06:27] <jbruckman> wienczny_: you do if you reverse engineer it and recode it. :-p
[06:27] <acidBURN> for the web
[06:27] <eagles0513875> brb
[06:27] <intelikey> underdog5004 sh file.run
[06:27] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: ok
[06:27] <underdog5004> thanks, intelikey
[06:27] <TonyTone17> .run file is a superzip archive
[06:27] <underdog5004> it's working!!
[06:27] <dwidmann> I just commented on a potentially related bug report. It might be it, and if it is there might be a fix (whether it will make feisty or not I don't know)
[06:27] <acidBURN> wienczny: firefox has it over konqueror for the web.
[06:27] <stanley> hi guys...how can i get the latest version of firefox using apt get??
[06:28] <stanley> i kno there is a wiki that shows u how to do so
[06:28] <jbruckman> i'll talk to my buddy. he's on the dev team.
[06:28] <acidBURN> wienczny: however, konqueror is a great desktop browser...
[06:29] <underdog5004> http://icculus.org/~ravage/ <-- Linux games and game add-ons
[06:29] <wienczny_> acidBURN: both browser are great. just take that one that fits best
[06:30] <acidBURN> I was trying to stay with one....
[06:30] <jbruckman> lol
[06:30] <acidBURN> but it would appear.....its not the case
[06:30] <eagles0513875> WillLuongo: got it to work with the nvidia driver from nvidia i just didnt start the x server
[06:30] <acidBURN> I feel konqueror could be made better.... ( ie my explorer)
[06:31] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: So it is working correctly now?
[06:31] <wienczny_> acidBURN: It would be great if firefox and konqueror could share configuration and bookmarks. Or something like a konqueror tab in firefox would be cool
[06:31] <jbruckman> i'm going to try editing the xorg.conf file to see if i can fix my resolution problem
[06:31] <Krafa> hola
[06:31] <Krafa> algun espaol?
[06:31] <intelikey> acidBURN ?    konq would be better if more like explorer ?    or konq is too much like explorer ?
[06:31] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[06:32] <acidBURN> wienczny: and social bookmarking...
[06:32] <acidBURN> wienczny: want konq, better than MS explorer.... much better
[06:33] <acidBURN> find out that I could open a term in konq, while surfing..
[06:35] <stanley> hi um...i'm tryna get the most recent version of firefox
[06:35] <stanley> can someone point me in the right direction
[06:35] <intelikey> imo.  most people that compare konq and ff and dis on konq have not actually used konq very much and have not explored it's functionality and potential.
[06:35] <dwidmann> I'll be right back ... going to see if I've got all the 2.6.20-13 stuff I need to stick with it
[06:36] <intelikey> !ff | stanley
[06:36] <ubotu> stanley: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:36] <plbgnr> hello, does anybody use partition image ? it wants to create /dev/dm inode after start, but it looks like  nothing is happening when I choose 'Yes' as answer to " Do you want this inode to be created for you now ?"
[06:37] <plbgnr> ...I use dapper...
[06:37] <stanley> aright
[06:37] <stanley> thanx ubotu
[06:37] <intelikey> !thanks | stanley
[06:37] <charlesHKG> how can I setup grub to allow me to choose between booting to kubuntu on my towers HDD and my USB HDD???
[06:37] <ubotu> stanley: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:38] <stanley> haha
[06:38] <intelikey> charlesHKG edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:38] <hugeta> hi where java dev use in kubuntu cause to many choise in adept anyone can help me
[06:38] <intelikey> !grub | charlesHKG
[06:38] <ubotu> charlesHKG: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:39] <hugeta> hi anybody home
[06:39] <hugeta> i need some help
[06:39] <charlesHKG> ok....thanks
[06:40] <WillLuongo> hugeta: What is up?
[06:40] <hugeta> hi bro  what the name java dev if i want to install java
[06:40] <intelikey> and that assumes that your box can boot the usb device from bios.
[06:40] <eagles0513875> what pkg do i have to download to enable mp3 support in amarok
[06:40] <hugeta> cause to many choice in adept
[06:41] <WillLuongo> hugeta: are you trying to install a java plugin for your browser?
[06:41] <hugeta> not i want instal java development enviroment for programing
[06:42] <hugeta> sooryy i'm tottaly new in ubuntu
[06:42] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: It should prompt you to automically install them when you try to play an mp3
[06:42] <hugeta> he he he he he he h
[06:43] <eagles0513875> but it freezes
[06:43] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: It was waiting for me to put in the superuser password, I think. I got it through that.
[06:43] <Darthweda> hi
[06:43] <intelikey> !java
[06:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:43] <WillLuongo> hugeta: You might like eclipse
[06:43] <eagles0513875> im using feisty i dont know whether its buggy in feisty
[06:44] <Darthweda> how i change the server?
[06:44] <WillLuongo> eagles0513875: I don't know in Feisty either, I still use Edgy, sorry.
[06:44] <hugeta> eclipse what.... i never heard before cause im to loong in mars
[06:45] <intelikey> Darthweda which server ?
[06:45] <Darthweda> gamesurge
[06:45] <WillLuongo> hugeta: if you use adept you can filter out just eclipse stuff
[06:45] <WillLuongo> hugeta: it is a java IDE
[06:45] <intelikey> Darthweda mmm sorry dik
[06:45] <intelikey> idk
[06:46] <Darthweda> ^
[06:46] <hugeta> i ussualy use vb 6.0 for desktop programing and java too
[06:47] <Darthweda> k
[06:47] <Darthweda> cu
[06:47] <WillLuongo> hugeta: I guess I don't know what you are asking...
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> someone know what i can use for my server for everyoen can upload picture, sorta like photobucket or imagehack, but wihtout need to log on or something ? just a simple thingy for uplaod shit ?
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> i use kubuntu with apache <.<
[06:48] <Shalaptop1> server lamp D:
[06:48] <intelikey> WillLuongo i think he's asking what packages he'll need to do java development in linux ...    not sure either.
[06:50] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 ftpd ?
[06:50] <tdn> Opening new SSH connections is very slow on my machines. Do you have any idea what can cause this? It seems like it waits for something. DNS maybe? strace available here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=496
[06:50] <Shalaptop1> i don't know how to use ftpd <.<
[06:50] <dwidmann> I guess that was a no-go :( Looks like I'm stuck with VESA for a while
[06:51] <Shalaptop1> but i mean by website, not ftp anyway D:
[06:51] <hugeta> i ussualy use vb 6.0 for develop some desktop application like trading app,...and etc
[06:51] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 ah   yeah  some part/s of  LAMP
[06:51] <intelikey> !lamp | Shalaptop1
[06:51] <ubotu> Shalaptop1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:52] <intelikey> but i don't know anything about networking/webservers
[06:52] <WillLuongo> hugeta: Eclipse is similar to VB 6 but for Java in Linux.
[06:52] <Shalaptop1> ubotu: i installed a server lamp who work good, but now i want use it for ppl can upload picture on it by the web browser
[06:54] <Shalaptop1> !linux | intelikey
[06:54] <ubotu> intelikey: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:54] <Shalaptop1> lmao

[06:54] <hugeta> he he he he that what i need bro.....
[06:54] <intelikey> Shalaptop1 np.   #apache   or  ##linux   might be a good place to ask....
[06:55] <hugeta> maybe  u can help me what the name pacnkage enclipse in adept
[06:55] <fyrmedic> So I have seen a lot of people talking about how good beryl is. So I installed it, but I can't seem to get it to work. Any suggestions?
[06:56] <WillLuongo> hugeta: you can either use adept to get it or you can copy and paste this in a console apt-get install eclipse
[06:56] <fyrmedic> !beryl
[06:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:56] <intelikey> eclipse - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
[06:57] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: That's about how it goes.  Works for some people who have the right cards and settings, doesn't for many.
[06:58] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: ok, I'll try working through it. I am in a couple of forums reading up. Thanks. You think it is worth the time?
[06:58] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: How big is your monitor?
[06:58] <hugeta> ok got it thank a lot bro
[06:59] <fyrmedic> jhutchins: 15" notebook
[06:59] <WillLuongo> hugeta: No problem
[07:00] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: No.  You won't be happy with it, you need at least a 19".  It may be amusing to see the screen effects, but I doubt if you'll want to work in it.  Also, laptop hardare is notoriously difficult to deal with to begin with.
[07:00] <jhutchins> fyrmedic: These new "3D" desktops are most useful if you often have multiple windows on the screen.  If you usually have your top window maximized, they won't do much for you.
[07:01] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; ok I think I am out on it based on that.
[07:02] <Sanne> hi
[07:02] <Kamui> anyone have any suggestions for using kubuntu on my tablet pc?
[07:03] <fyrmedic> jhutchins; thanks for your time.
[07:05] <eagles0513875> is ntfs-3g compatible with a 64 bit os reason i ask is that it locks up my system when im on my windows partition and i cant log in
[07:08] <zouzou85> hi guys, how do i delete a repo source using a terminal?
[07:08] <vinces1979> zouzou85: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:09] <zouzou85> thanx
[07:09] <vinces1979> np
[07:12] <luca> hi everyone
[07:12] <WillLuongo> hi luca
[07:13] <luca> does anybody here own a Dell Inspiron6400 with nvidia card?
[07:13] <luca> hi WillLuongo
[07:13] <wolferine> luca, why, having issues with it?
[07:14] <laervian10> wolferine nope I wanna buy one and I'd like to know if there are any problems with the hardware :D
[07:14] <wolferine> ah, google would probably be a MUCH better place for that
[07:16] <judgen> hmm that was unpleaseant
[07:16] <laervian10> wolferine maybe but it also takes quite longer :D
[07:16] <judgen> i tried gnome again =P
[07:16] <hak5fan> Hi. I reinstalled recently and have to recopile my kernel. I've done it before, but now I can't get to the configuration screen, make menuconfig gives me errors: I followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560  herer are the error messages http://p.rc6.org/index.php?id=7cf17b882d
[07:17] <hak5fan> what's wrong
[07:17] <hugeta> who knows gambas
[07:18] <acme> dfg
[07:18] <dany_21> hak5fan: "curses.h: No such file or directory" install some packages starting with "libcurses...-dev"
[07:18] <dany_21> hak5fan: or "ncurses".. or somwthing like that
[07:18] <balaji> can anone help me in configuring a huawei modem in kubuntu?
[07:19] <balaji> EC325?
[07:19] <dany_21> hak5fan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=curses.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[07:19] <hak5fan> dany_21: I'll give it a try
[07:22] <balaji> can anyone pls help?
[07:22] <hak5fan> dany_21: It worked
[07:23] <hak5fan> dany_21: Thank you
[07:23] <dany_21> hak5fan: np
[07:24] <hugeta> ada anak indonesia enggak ya
[07:25] <qsu> guys i have a 256 mb memeroy usb stick and i want to put kubuntu on it, is that possible and where do i find good docs
[07:26] <balaji> with 256 i dont think u can install kubuntu
[07:27] <judgen> balaji: he could make a minimal ubuntu livecd with only kde-core on. Will not have much functionality though unless you have internet
[07:27] <hugeta> how many mb for install kubuntu in memery stick
[07:27] <qsu> i have another usb stick with 128 mb maybe i could combine them
[07:28] <judgen> hugeta: for base+xserver+kde-core 242 base+xserver+kde-base~420 and base+xserver+kde even bigger
[07:29] <judgen> qsu: you can just put the needed base install in the small one and the debs for the apps you need on the other usb stick
[07:29] <kubuntu22> Bet this place is going to be busy come this thursday :)
[07:29] <qsu> oke, and where can i find good docs to do this
[07:29] <judgen> kubuntu22: probably
[07:29] <judgen> qsu: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:36] <psb154> is it worth downloading the beta now and using the apt update facility to get the latest changes after release?
[07:38] <apokryphos> psb154: well the release candidate is out now, even
[07:38] <Briareos_> how can i check when a specific username was used/online the last time?
[07:38] <apokryphos> Briareos_: /msg nickserv info username
[07:39] <Briareos_> thanks
[07:42] <unix_infidel> do we have an rc yet?
[07:42] <unix_infidel> its 2 days till final release.
[07:42] <unix_infidel> and i believe yesterday was when some select people already got some isos.
[07:49] <jermain> hi everyone
[07:49] <jermain> I need help: my scanner isnt recognized by Kooka even though i installed SANE
[07:49] <jermain> does anyone know what to do?
[07:49] <sparrw> why might audio being played from a CD be going through the Master Mono channel on my sound card (as reported by alsamixer and kmix)?
[07:50] <silicium> hi :) this is just a test :>
[07:50] <BishiNightBird> ok?
[07:50] <Gtwy> anyone with a laptop with 1280x800 check this out: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/53434721/ might work with your theme, might not
[07:52] <psb154> jermain, is your scanner a usb scanner?
[07:52] <Exal> anyone know how I can install kubuntu with no graphics?
[07:52] <Exal> which command
[07:52] <jermain> psb154 yes it is
ok i didnt know that  iam sorry probably this should suffice
[07:52] <jermain> kooka keeps telling me my system doesnt provide a SANE installation
[07:52] <psb154> jermain, you need to copy a file from the installation CD (windows) and edit a file.
[07:53] <jermain> oh
[07:53] <jermain> sane is an emulation program?
[07:53] <psb154> I can prolly talk  you through it but do you have the CD?
[07:53] <jermain> gimme some time to look for it
[07:53] <jermain> :)
[07:53] <psb154> k
[07:54] <jermain> got it
[07:54] <psb154> good
[07:55] <jermain> its in the cd rom now :)
[07:55] <psb154> lets install xsane first ok, sudo apt-get install xsane
[07:55] <jermain> k
[07:56] <jermain> its installing now
[07:56] <jermain> done
[07:56] <psb154> excellent :-)
[07:56] <jermain> :) i feel so pro
[07:56] <psb154> look on the cd and find a .bin file.
[07:57] <psb154> the .bin file will look something like snape25.bin for example
[07:57] <jermain> eep,.. i see no content on the cd
[07:57] <psb154> sudo mount /media/cdrom
[07:58] <jermain> command not found -.-
[07:58] <psb154> or mount /media/cd    and then press the tab key
[07:58] <psb154> mount
[07:58] <jermain> but the gui opened /media/cdrom0
[07:58] <psb154> good oh
[07:59] <psb154> mount /media/cdrom0     wot does that do?
[07:59] <jermain> i tried mounting the cdrom0 but i got
[07:59] <jermain> jermain@jermain:/media$ mount /media/cdrom0
[07:59] <jermain> mount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:59] <jermain> mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[07:59] <jermain> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdd is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[07:59] <psb154> fine no problem
[07:59] <jermain> cool
[08:00] <psb154> now: cd /media/cdrom0
[08:00] <jermain> done
[08:00] <jermain> :)
[08:00] <jermain> oooh
[08:00] <psb154> now: find / -name *.bin
[08:00] <jermain> if i do ls
[08:00] <jermain> i can see the content!
[08:00] <jermain> oh okay
[08:01] <jermain> :)
[08:01] <gioacchino> hello' all
[08:01] <gioacchino> I have a problem with firefox
[08:01] <jermain> i think i should have piped it to less..
[08:01] <jermain> hi gio
[08:01] <gioacchino> I can't use pdf stamp
[08:02] <PhinnFort> gioacchino: who hasn't?
[08:02] <psb154> jermain... sorry mate that should have been: find /media/cdrom0 -name *.bin
[08:02] <psb154> jermain ctrl + c
[08:02] <gioacchino> when I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility
[08:02] <jermain> :)
[08:02] <gioacchino> PhinnFort: when I try to stamp a file with firefox I have only 3 possibility
[08:02] <jermain> ah thats better
[08:02] <jermain> :p
[08:03] <jermain> got 7 results
[08:03] <psb154> tell me...
[08:03] <jermain> I'll paste them, 1 sec
[08:03] <gioacchino> but If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer
[08:03] <psb154> you might get flamed if you paste here
[08:03] <gioacchino> PhinnFort:  but If I go on my Kcontrol I have 6 printer
[08:03] <jermain> 7 lines
[08:04] <jermain> its a forgivable sin right?
[08:04] <jermain> :o
[08:04] <psb154> jermain what is your scanner called, brand and model
[08:04] <jermain> epson perfection 3940
[08:04] <psb154> na they get right miffed :-)
[08:04] <jermain> ^^
[08:04] <psb154> ok does one of the file names look like the model number?
[08:05] <gioacchino> PhinnFort:  pn firefox I have laserjet (my hardware printer) , default( this is equal to laserjet), print on file (this prin in a PS file)