[13:35] <dimas869> prince_jammys so should i just delete it from add remove programs?
[13:35] <prince_jammys> dimas869: try
[13:35] <Caf-Fiend> or rather, how do i get my clock in the top right corner to display time in a different way
[13:36] <dimas869> prince_jammys let me try then
[13:36] <jrib> nantax: edit -> preferences ?
[13:36] <new2linux> hey jrib
[13:36] <jrib> new2linux: hi
[13:36] <new2linux> jrib: could we store ubuntu updates locally?
[13:36] <nantax> jrib:  i did that already. removed the check box but totem is still displaying the vis? needs restart maybe...
[13:36] <new2linux> jrib: like windows update server (wus) microsoft?
[13:37] <jrib> nantax: yes, restart totem
[13:37] <nantax> jrib:  okay solved.. tnx
[13:37] <Caf-Fiend> or is there a location settings type thing somewhere?
[13:38] <amikrop> I think it would be nice, if the developers could make (deb) packages that automate the installation and configuration of hardware drivers like dial-up modems (like Lucent WinModems), usb modems (like ueagle-atm), and more, and provide those packages with the install/live CD.
[13:38] <dimas869> prince_jammys i get the same error message whe i try to delete it
[13:39] <prince_jammys> to somebody knowledgable in the ways of APT: dimas869 is getting errors from apt-get (or any APT front-end. has automatix installed, ubuntu hardy)
[13:39] <stemount^> new2linux: apt-proxy - Debian archive proxy and partial mirror builder
[13:39] <b33r> can anyone help me with these error I'm getting them on startup after improper shutdown, ATA3.00: Status: {DRDY ERR} and ATA3.00: Error: {UNC}
[13:39] <Lachlan> Hi guys. Using Wine to install a multi-disc game, and it won't let me eject the second disc because it says "An application is preventing the volume 'blahblah' from being unmounted." I tried doing umount -f, but that fails with "Device or resource is busy". Any ideas?
[13:39] <stemount^> new2linux: that sounds promising
[13:39] <bazhang> !aptfix | dimas869
[13:39] <ubot3> dimas869: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:39] <ricanelite> can someone help me I have a Sony Mini-DV Camcorder connected with firewire. How can I transfer the videos I recorded to the mini-dv and transfer it to Ubuntu Linux Hardy? I have installed Kino and my camcorder is connected and nothing showed up in Kino?
[13:39] <javagamer> What does it mean when memtest86 spontaneously shuts down?
[13:39] <ricanelite> Should I reboot?
[13:39] <jrib> new2linux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy for the guide.  You also have the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ if you just want to make backups
[13:39] <new2linux> stemount^: thanks, i'll try that
[13:40] <prince_jammys> dimas869: bazhang: doesn't seem like it's that, but worth a shot
[13:40] <new2linux> stemount^: is that way, we able to burn the updates to cd/dvd?
[13:40] <bazhang> dimas869, automatix? that is very bad then
[13:40] <dimas869> prince_jammys yeah let me see that
[13:40] <stemount^> new2linux: I believe thats via network
[13:40] <Crys_> I would like to replicate an installation to a new box. How can I get a list of all installed packages *including* the auto flag? dpkg -l doesn't show the auto flag.
[13:41] <dimas869> prince_jammys same error...grrrrr
[13:41] <jrib> !cloning | Crys_
[13:41] <ubot3> Crys_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[13:41] <jrib> Crys_: I don't know what the auto flag is
[13:41] <prince_jammys> dimas869: automatix can really mess up apt
[13:41] <new2linux> i'll try the info, thx guys
[13:41] <dimas869> prince_jammys i can paste it now
[13:41] <bazhang> dimas the use of automatix has severely compromised your system
[13:41] <dimas869> automatix is not running
[13:42] <dimas869> cause there is no version for hardy as yet
[13:42] <Crys_> jrib: some packages are marked as automatically installed. When no package referres to an automatically installed package it is removes as well.
[13:42] <jokoon> hello
[13:42] <Crys_> jrib: I already know the get selection trick ;)
[13:42] <dimas869> prince_jammys have a look...dpkg: error de tratamiento, en el fichero `/var/lib/dpkg/status' cerca de la línea 26987 paquete `glchess':
[13:42] <dimas869>  error en la cadena `Version' `4194304:': no hay nada tras los dos puntos en el número de versión
[13:42] <krim> I've deleted a bunch of old bookmarks but when I type something in the adress bar in Firefox 3 beta 5 they still appear there. How do I get rid of them? I tried clearing private data and pressing delete when they're selected in the list, didn't work.
[13:43] <jokoon> I have a lot of crashes with the last firefox update, I have a powerpc proc, whats wrong ? (crashes when I close a tab)
[13:43] <amikrop> So, are there any related plans?
[13:43] <dimas869> sorry guys is in spanish
[13:43] <jrib> Crys_: is this information aptitude-specific?
[13:44] <jokoon> krim remove something file called place .sql
[13:44] <Caf-Fiend> i tried googling the answer to my problem, by searching for the manual page for date.  search string was "man date", I regret feeling lucky.
[13:44] <Crys_> jrib: it's apt specific
[13:44] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i don't know. i understand spanish, so i get the error message.  i don't know what to recommend, though.
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i'll see what google has to say
[13:45] <dimas869> prince_jammys hold on i will translate it
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: i am a native spanish speaker
[13:45] <Crys_> dimas869: start the program with "LC_ALL=C yourcommand"
[13:45] <prince_jammys> dimas869: but yeah, see if you can a translation for google
[13:45] <dimas869> crys what?
[13:46] <prince_jammys> and for others in the channel
[13:46] <Brando1> Hey everyone, I'm having problems dual booting ubuntu and vista, heres my problem...
[13:46] <jrib> Crys_: oh, I see, apt-get keeps the info in /var/lib/apt/extended_states it seems
[13:46] <McJester> my sources.list is still messed up, I can't install any software, I keep getting an error saying it can' be installed on my PowerPC
[13:46] <dimas869> prince_jammys here...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:46] <Brando1> I installed ubuntu and everything worked fine, and then I went on to install vista.  Vista wouldnt install on the partition I had made for it, so I went and install xp on that partition, which inactivated my ubuntu partition, and then I installed vista
[13:47] <Brando1> annow I cant get ubuntu to work....
[13:47] <ichat> gday yall... \
[13:47] <bazhang> !grub | Brando1
[13:47] <ubot3> Brando1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:47] <Crys_> jrib: nice, I can probably create a small Python script to parse the information and pipe it through apt-mark
[13:48] <socr> I want an SD card to mount on /media/sdram.  I suspect I have to edit fstab for that. How ?
[13:48] <Brando1> cancan i install grub from the live cd, and do I have to change any flags in gparted also?
[13:48] <dimas869> crys did you see the error i am getting?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:48] <bazhang> Brando1, did you read the link?
[13:48] <McJester> is there any command that will pull the latest sources.list from the web?
[13:48] <krim> jokoon: Thank you! That solved it!
[13:48] <Brando1> thanks ubot im sure that will help
[13:48] <Brando1> ok ill go do that, bye thanks
[13:48] <jrib> McJester: that doesn't really make sense, what do you want to do?
[13:49] <Agion> Hi, is there any working ATI driver for ATI x1950?
[13:49] <welkin> can any one tell me how to work c-language in ubuntu???
[13:49] <McJester> I want to restore my sources.list file, I made a few changes and jacked it all up without creating a backup, now I can't download any software
[13:49] <jrib> welkin: do you have a simple helloworld.c written in your favorite text editor already?
[13:49] <Dasmoover> Hi, last night I came here and I was told to use the alternatice install cd for ubuntu
[13:49] <bazhang> McJester, pastebin it please
[13:49] <Starnestommy> welkin: you need build-essential, which provides the gcc C compiler
[13:49] <Dasmoover> my problem persists
[13:50] <Dasmoover> can anyone help me>?
[13:50] <Starnestommy> Dasmoover: what was the problem?
[13:50] <welkin>  welkin: do you have a simple helloworld.c written in your favorite text editor already?  >>>>>>>>> no sorry.....
[13:50] <McJester> bazhang, whats pastebin?
[13:50] <Dasmoover> after the kernal, it hangs on a black screen without a loading cursor.
[13:50] <Starnestommy> !pastebin | McJester
[13:50] <ubot3> McJester: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:50] <jrib> McJester: delete it and use System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[13:50] <flaccid> sorry i have a new kitten.
[13:50] <etalli> Is there a way to get ls to print out every file with its path recursively?
[13:50] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com McJester
[13:50] <dimas869> anyone know how to fix this problem?...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version
[13:50] <flaccid> gnomefreak, i do know better thank you very much.
[13:50] <welkin> welkin: you need build-essential, which provides the gcc C compiler>>>>>>>>>>> can u tel me how to do it???
[13:50] <bazhang> dimas869, also inform folks you used automatix
[13:51] <Starnestommy> welkin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:51] <dimas869> bazhang i have run automatix on hardy cause the version i have is for feisty
[13:51] <jrib> welkin: you need to put the person's name you are addressing in your message, not your own :)
[13:52] <Dasmoover> anyone have any ideas?
[13:52] <Agion> Does anyone know is there a working 3d driver for ATI x1950??
[13:53] <tj83> Adion... th fglrz driver seems to be best for most ATI
[13:53] <tj83> agion... fglrx*
[13:53] <Agion> tj83: does it run compiz? how to install it?
[13:53] <recon69> Dasmoover: can you boot you system from the live cd?
[13:53] <Dasmoover> yes i can
[13:53] <Dasmoover> but after the install, it just doesnt work..
[13:53] <new2linux> guys, how to do ipconfig /release and ipconfig /renew in ubuntu?
[13:53] <SndbaD> hi all
[13:54] <tj83> Agion... its does run compiz.. i'm using it now... System-Adminisration-Hardware drivers.
[13:54] <Starnestommy> new2linux: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart?
[13:54] <Danker> Hi
[13:54] <Danker> Does debian or ubuntu offer more generic (supports more devices) kernel?
[13:54] <recon69> new2linux: you could try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:55] <ichat> [q] new to ubuntu ... and want / need  wine,  thus installed it with the package-system.  -    and testrun notepad worked fine,  jet expacted  an install software option or a  how-to  yet nothing there.   1 - >  where do i find it,   |  2 ->  for my own well being and preventing F*ups - is it wise to i  install ubunu  with an extra partition  /windows  where i could reside all win files...   -
[13:55] <Agion> tj83: and there ATI accelerated graphics driver? It lags very much with me.
[13:55] <new2linux> recon69: that's all, cool
[13:55] <prince_jammys> dimas869: if i were you, i would probably just reinstall and never install automatix again.  everything i've read about automatix says that it can cause serious damage to apt, and that it's not easy to undo.
[13:55] <recon69> Dasmoover: have you tried to boot to the cmd line?
[13:55] <Crys_> Danker: ifdown eht0; ifup eth0
[13:55] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> It is asking ubuntu cd but i dont have it now.... wat can i do....
[13:56] <Dasmoover> no, i have not
[13:56] <Danker> Crys_: and?
[13:56] <tj83> Agion... be specific... what doesnt the ATI fglrx driver do for you? and have you looked at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure everything is correct?
[13:56] <Dasmoover> im dont know what o do there
[13:56] <Starnestommy> welkin: check System > Administration > Software Sources and tell it to not use the CD
[13:56] <Dasmoover> ive heard something about noacpi
[13:56] <Crys_> oh, you are the wrong guy, sorry
[13:56] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> k....
[13:56] <tj83> Dasmoover... i use the noapic tag
[13:56] <Crys_> Danker: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 was for new2linux
[13:56] <Dasmoover> wheres that?
[13:57] <recon69> Dasmoover: well, when it starts booting hit "del" or "esc" you should get the boot menu, try boot to recovery mode
[13:57] <Dasmoover> then what?
[13:58] <tj83> Dasmoover... I had alot of issues with freeze ups, screen black outs, and all out power down crashes.... I used the noapic tag and appended it to menu.list file in the grub folder.
[13:58] <tj83> Dasmoover.. all problems now gone.
[13:58] <ricanelite> can someone help me get my mini-dv camcorder working with Kino
[13:58] <Dasmoover> hmm i see
[13:58] <root> hi every one!
[13:58] <Dasmoover> so hit esc or del then what?
[13:58] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... its finished wat shall i do next?????
[13:58] <new2linux> no dhcpoffer receive... but, before this, the computer was able to connect to the internet
[13:59] <Starnestommy> welkin: close out of that, then run: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[13:59] <new2linux> why now, it can't be connected anymore??
[13:59] <tj83> Dasmoover.... what recon69 says will get you with the noapic one time.. but not every boot... you must do it as i say for automatic boot witht he noapic tag.
[13:59] <recon69> Dasmoover: you should see the boot menu, pick recovery mode and see if it boots.
[13:59] <ricanelite> when i open up Kino and go to Perferences and then click on IEEE 1394 it says IEEE 1394 Subsystem is not responding The raw1394 module must be loaded, and you must have read and write access to /dev/raw1394
[13:59] <Dasmoover> and i should get into ubuntu?
[13:59] <parunni> hello
[13:59] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... i even finished tat......
[13:59] <Df_Yz> Hello all.
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ill try that, if it works i wont be back
[13:59] <Dasmoover> if it doesnt ill be back
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ;)
[13:59] <Dasmoover> ty all
[14:00] <parunni> can any one help me with my problem with alsamixer
[14:00] <Df_Yz> Tell me, please, how I can compile linux-ubuntu-modules for my new kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>-imq)?
[14:00] <Agion> tj83: do you see anything bad in my xorg.conf? http://pastebin.ca/1035850
[14:00] <STSX> new2linux: Did you by chance have your networking set up with a static IP?
[14:01] <tj83> agion... one moment while i look
[14:01] <Agion> k thx
[14:01] <newubuntuuser> hi
[14:01] <tj83> agion.... yes there are problems with your file :P
[14:02] <tj83> hang around in the room for a few... i really need a smoke.. i will fix it and re-paste it.
[14:02] <Agion> tj83: what kinda problems? how to solve them? :P
[14:02] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>> yup... i even finished installing build-essential......
[14:02] <new2linux> STSX: nope, i just move the computer to different place and different cable, but both the previous cable and the new cable are connected to the same switch
[14:02] <simonvc> Hey, im trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that has a broken screen, and no keyboard. Is there a way to get ubuntu-livecd to output to both screens (i.e. the vga port on the back?)
[14:02] <Starnestommy> welkin: you should now be able to compile c and c++ programs
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>from where i can compile a c file???
[14:03] <Starnestommy> welkin: the gcc command
[14:03] <dimas869> i am having problems updating the system
[14:03] <ichat> Simonvc -  thats up to your laptops bios afaik ...
[14:03] <szczur> hi, I've made a copy of my internal disk (/dev/hda) to external usb disk (/dev/sda) using dd `if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=64k`, now, when I'm trying to boot from usb, I get "failed to load operating system". why?
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>sorry i dont knw.........
[14:03] <SndbaD> what the flash player i need to play the movies in browser???
[14:03] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>wat is tat??
[14:04] <prince_jammys> dimas869: if i were you, i would probably just reinstall and never install automatix again.  everything i've read about automatix says that it can cause serious damage to apt, and that it's not easy to undo.
[14:04] <Starnestommy> welkin: gcc -o program program.c
[14:04] <simonvc> @ichat The bios boots on both screens, but ubuntu X swithces off the second display.
[14:04] <Andeh> I unsafely unplugged my usb stick when on windows and now ubuntu cant write to it. How do I repair it?
[14:04] <blackdream> can you send me the fr channel plz :)
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <simonvc> How do i get live CD to do a text based install?
[14:04] <prince_jammys> !fr | blackdream
[14:04] <ubot3> blackdream: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[14:04] <bazhang> SndbaD, the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <dimas869> prince_jammys if i remove automatix i will get ready of my codecs...lol
[14:04] <recon69> new2linux: well could be many reasons, need much more info, paste the output of "ifconfig" and /ect/net/interfaces , describe the network you trying to connect to.
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working
[14:04] <bazhang> !repeat | parunni
[14:04] <prince_jammys> dimas869: you can get them without automatix
[14:05] <ubot3> parunni: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:05] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>how to open a new file??
[14:05] <STSX> new2linux: Try the following and see if your network comes back up: "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[14:05] <Starnestommy> welkin: use a text editor, like the one in Applications > Accessories
[14:05] <ichat> simonvc -  ubuntu-alternate install  can do so
[14:05] <dimas869> prince_jammys i forgot eaven how to remove it...sorry i am floud right now
[14:05] <STSX> new2linux: But use your interface...
[14:05] <prince_jammys> dimas869: that's the thing. i don't even know if it's removable
[14:05] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>oh...k........ THANKS.............................
[14:05] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[14:05] <ubot3> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys...lol
[14:06] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working in ubuntu
[14:06] <STSX> new2linux: I mean replace "wlan0" with whatever is your interface.
[14:06] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet)
[14:06] <Andeh> I cant write to usb stick. I checked it with GParted it says it's messed up. Probably cause I unsafely unplugged it on windows. How do I fix it?
[14:06] <dimas869> prince_jammys i will try synaptic
[14:06] <tj83> Agion.. i'm still here just working on it now
[14:07] <Agion> ok
[14:07] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet which i get it from windows xp shared connection)
[14:07] <parunni> help alsa mixer not working in ubuntu
[14:07] <eric> I am using 8.04. ntp refuses to update the time! there is no longer a "synchronize now" button! how can I tell ntpdate to update my time??
[14:07] <STSX> new2linux: Do you know which interface (wlan0, eth0, eth1, etc) is used for your internet connection?
[14:07] <BonezAU> Hi, I am visiting websites and they tell me that I need sun java 1.4 - i already have the sun java plug-in installed for firefox. Is there a package that i'm missing?
[14:07] <bazhang> parunni, if someone knows they will answer; do not repeat so often
[14:07] <eric> BonezAU, 8.04?
[14:07] <McJester> what is the terminal command for delete
[14:07] <BonezAU> eric, yes
[14:07] <STSX> parunni: You have to be more specific if you want help.
[14:07] <Starnestommy> McJester: rm
[14:07] <new2linux> STSX: on ubuntu, it's eth0 for the internet
[14:08] <erUSUL> BonezAU: 64 bits install ??
[14:08] <parunni> sorry about that i am using this also for the first time
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, 64 bit?
[14:08] <BonezAU> erUSUL, no, x86
[14:08] <dimas869> prince_jammys this is a major problem the system is stock on it...nothing i try work but give me the same error message
[14:08] <BonezAU> eric, no, 32bit
[14:08] <STSX> new2linux: OK, try those commands I gave and replace the "wlan0" with eth0.
[14:08] <Df_Yz> Tell me, please, how I can compile linux-ubuntu-modules for my new kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>-imq)? Alsa doesn't works witout them >_<
[14:08] <erUSUL> BonezAU: then it should Just Work (tm)
[14:08] <dimas869> terminal synaptic add and remove
[14:08] <new2linux> STSX: ok
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, personally I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras which did the trick, but I am using 64-bit
[14:08] <eric> BonezAU, I don't think you would need the icedtea stuff for 32-bit
[14:08] <prince_jammys> dimas869: this is a situation where i would reinstall. ask around if someone else knows how to deal with this
[14:09] <BonezAU> erUSUL, can you try www.testyourvoip.com and choose a destination on the right hand side and see what happens? I get an error page saying no java found
[14:09] <b33r> can anyone help I'm getting this error on startup after improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/
[14:09] <dimas869> prince_jammys you crazy?...lol
[14:09] <bazhang> dimas869, automatix has compromised that system
[14:09] <prince_jammys> dimas869: automatix messes the whole package installation process
[14:09] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[14:10] <Xorothal> hey, I just installed the kubuntu-desktop packeage and now my sound has messed up: i'm getting a sort of 'clicking' noise from my speakers
[14:10] <eric> hey guys, how do I tell ntp to update my computer's time?
[14:10] <eric> it is not doing it by itself :(
[14:10] <Dasmoover> After i go to to recovery mode
[14:10] <erUSUL> BonezAU: well i have 64 bits and use icedtea not java sun but i can try ...
[14:10] <Dasmoover> i select resume normal boot
[14:10] <Dasmoover> and then it just does the same..
[14:10] <erUSUL> BonezAU: says Testing in progress... but seems stuck
[14:10] <BonezAU> erUSUL, I use amd64 on my desktop pc... let me test it on there
[14:11] <tj83> agion... while i re-paste you need to make a back up of your xorg.conf file... save it as xorg.conf.old
[14:11] <dimas869> prince_jammys did you read the error message i sent you in english before?
[14:11] <Xorothal> eric: right click the date/time in the top right and select adjust date/time
[14:11] <recon69> new2linux: do you know what paste bin is, use it to share the out put of ifconfig so we can talk specifics http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, I want it to be automatic with ntp
[14:11] <Xorothal> yeah
[14:11] <Agion> ok
[14:11] <Xorothal> wait for it
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, well it doesn't update
[14:11] <dimas869> so pissed now
[14:11] <erUSUL> BonezAU: no joy seems like it is just fails
[14:11] <eric> Xorothal, I have been waiting for two days
[14:11] <Xorothal> eric, click unlock
[14:12] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i get the same message on my amd64 desktop pc... no java found :(
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, I did. before there was a "synchronize now" button. its gone :(
[14:12] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:12] <Xorothal> and then "Keep synchronized etc"
[14:12] <tj83> Agion... when you have that done... let me know...
[14:12] <recon69> Dasmoover: do you get any other options other that resume normal boot, like boot to command line
[14:12] <Xorothal> oh
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, yup...
[14:12] <Andeh> I cant write to my usb stick cause its messed up, i unplugged without unmounting.
[14:12] <Andeh> I can still read tho, can i fix it?
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, I try and run the update myself... sudo ntpdate ntp1.cmc.ec.gc.ca
[14:12] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>i created a file named u.c how to open it??? i tried like this gcc -o u.c but it showed gcc: no input files
[14:12] <erUSUL> BonezAU: do this on your 32 bit system "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and make sure the sun's jre is default
[14:12] <McJester> jrib, i deleted my sources.list, and then reloaded it, but its not connecting to several servers
[14:12] <eric> Xorothal, but I get  1 Jun 09:11:09 ntpdate[7000]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[14:12] <Agion> ok, but u ate repasteing now? :P
[14:13] <Dasmoover> Anyone know how i can do noacpi?
[14:13] <Xorothal> oh
[14:13] <Starnestommy> welkin: use gcc -o u u.c
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, and clearly observe how off my time is -.-
[14:13] <Xorothal> eric, idk then
[14:13] <zonkamatic> Got a couple of minor problems with the new release, which I installed last night.  Anybody care to give this a try?
[14:13] <McJester> jrib, do you know if there is somthing special for PowerPC's?
[14:13] <BonezAU> erUSUL, blake@elmhurst:~/Desktop/jre1.6.0_06$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
[14:13] <BonezAU> There is only 1 program which provides java
[14:13] <BonezAU> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[14:13] <tj83> agion http://pastebin.ca/1035861
[14:13] <Andeh> What should I use for USB stick, FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, errrr wait a second, my time is right now :s
[14:13] <Xorothal> haha
[14:13] <eric> Xorothal, weird.
[14:13] <tj83> Agion.... do you know how to use nano terminal text editor?
[14:14] <eric> well, whatever, I'm good now
[14:14] <erUSUL> BonezAU: ok; then i dunno why it fails :|
[14:14] <Blizzara> Andeh, FAT32
[14:14] <new2linux> recon69: i can't use the paste bin, coz the ubuntu computer is not connected to the internet. i'm using the other computer with windows
[14:14] <zonkamatic> Andeh:  concur.
[14:14] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>>>gcc: u.c: No such file or directory
[14:14] <zonkamatic> EVERYTHING can read FAT32.
[14:14] <BonezAU> erUSUL, I just downloaded java from sun.com as a .bin file and I installed it.. lemme restart ff and see what happens now
[14:14] <Andeh> zonkamatic: Concur?
[14:14] <zonkamatic> FAT32.
[14:14] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:14] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> is there pre-built imq kernel module for hardy?
[14:14] <erUSUL> BonezAU: both the one you install with apt and the one from sun are the same
[14:15] <Starnestommy> welkin: are you cd'd to the directory where u.c is?
[14:15] <Andeh> okay
[14:15] <zonkamatic> Now...anybody know why I get a blank white panel every time I try to start up gnome-terminal?
[14:15] <parunni> i am using ubuntu 8.04 alsamixer gives an error alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory can anyone help me?
[14:15] <BonezAU> erUSUL, hrrrmmm... what is the package called in the repos? restarting ff gives the same message about java 1.4 missing.
[14:15] <new2linux> STSX: not working still
[14:15] <MolePrince> Howdy.  I am looking for a way to share my network printer over the internet to an XP machine.    Any suggestions please?
[14:15] <SndbaD> if i wana to watch movies i just enable the mplayer plugin and i disable all the others?
[14:15] <Andeh> zonkamatic: This is only cause I backed it up and am formatting it since its ****ed up and I cant write to it. And since nobody here told me how to repair it.
[14:15] <erUSUL> BonezAU: sun-java6-jre ?
[14:15] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> ya i saved tat file in my home folder and i can see that file if i use dir command
[14:16] <BonezAU> erUSUL, sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. :'(
[14:16] <recon69> new2linux: ok, well we need info to help, what interface is connecting to the web, and what does it connect to ?
[14:16] <zonkamatic> Andeh:  same difference.
[14:16] <erUSUL> BonezAU: the applet claims to be compatible with java 1.4 or *higher*
[14:16] <tj83> agion... you still around?
[14:16] <STSX> new2linux: Well since you can't share your ifconfig output and such, it's hard to troubleshoot. If you had it working before, maybe just reboot and see if that works.
[14:17] <new2linux> eth0 is for the internet
[14:17] <Agion> tj83:yes
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Folks:  two prolly unrelated problems.
[14:17] <Dasmoover> recon69, chevk PM
[14:17] <erUSUL> BonezAU: but in fact it is not maybe it depends on some windowsisms ...
[14:17] <new2linux> ok
[14:17] <zonkamatic> First, can't resize windows.
[14:17] <tj83> did you edit your xorg.conf file already?
[14:17] <recon69> new2linux: is the internet connection encrypted , is it connected to a router ?
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Second, try to fire up a terminal and get a blank white window.
[14:17] <Agion> just removing the numbers from the file, the rownumbers i mean
[14:17] <tj83> Agion... you done editing xorg.conf?
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Any takers?
[14:17] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> oh sorry sorry i used small u instead of U so its coming now.............. but im getting many errors for a simple program
[14:17] <b33r> can anyone help I'm getting this error on startup after improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/
[14:17] <BonezAU> erUSUL, that's what i'm thinking.. perhaps I will admit defeat with this web site and not bother with it!!
[14:17] <Starnestommy> welkin: pastebin the errors
[14:17] <new2linux> recon69: no router, it was sucessfully connected before
[14:17] <zonkamatic> Fresh install, fresh updated as of last night around midnight, EDT.
[14:17] <tj83> Agion.. just re-copy from the lower box.
[14:18] <Andeh> Uhm. i cant format my usb stick. "Libparted error; unable to open /dev/sdb - unrecognized disk label"
[14:18] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i'm scared to reboot my laptop back into Vista because it
[14:18] <Agion> tj83:  oh, yeah xD
[14:18] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i'm scared to reboot my laptop back into Vista because it's been such a long time and I will get hammered with scary windows updates :)
[14:18] <Dasmoover> recon69, check PM
[14:18] <tj83> Agion that way nothing gets moved around ... one letter of and it wont reboot.
[14:18] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> U.c:2:20: error: conio.h: No such file or directory
[14:18] <welkin> U.c: In function ‘main’:
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:5: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘clrscr’
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:6: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘printf’
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:7: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘scanf’
[14:18] <FloodBot3> welkin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <welkin> U.c:8: error: expected declaration specifiers before ‘c’
[14:18] <BonezAU> welkin, pastebin, dude :)
[14:18] <erUSUL> BonezAU: that's the price to pay :)
[14:19] <new2linux> STSX: i have 2 computers, 1 with windows xp with 2 lan cards (1 connected directly to internet, the other 1 to share it to the lan). now, i'm setting up the other one with ubuntu, with 2 lan cards as well (1 to face the thin client network, the other one for the internet which i get it from windows xp shared connection). after the ubuntu connected for the 1st time, i shut it down and move it to else where with 2 different cables. but those 2 cables are stil
[14:19] <zonkamatic> welkin:  did you try <conio.h> instead of "conio.h?"
[14:19] <BonezAU> erUSUL, i've just installed java on my 64bit desktop so I will give it a run now and see if it works
[14:19] <Agion> so, i save the old one as Xorg.conf.old?
[14:19] <tj83> Agion... do you know how to use"nan" terminal tex editor?
[14:19] <Starnestommy> welkin: you might need to rewrite that file.  Linux and other Unix-like systems use different things than Windows does
[14:19] <Agion> nope
[14:19] <tj83> "nano" agion
[14:19] <BonezAU> erUSUL, negative.. bah - i'll leave it and move on. thanks for your help!
[14:19] <recon69> new2linux: so what does eth0 plug into? a server , a adsl modem?
[14:19] <erUSUL> BonezAU: on a 64 bit system you need icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[14:20] <tj83> agion yes xorg.conf.old
[14:20] <BonezAU> erUSUL, thanks for the info. I'll install that shortly as no doubt i'll need it later
[14:20] <tj83> or anything so you can use it as a back up file.
[14:20] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> wait ill send my codes
[14:20] <SndbaD> if i wana to watch movies i just enable the mplayer plugin and i disable all the others????
[14:20] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> is that possible to shape INCOMING traffic for the list of IP addresses? how? (tc?)
[14:21] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16181/
[14:21] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: Sorta, but generally not advisable.
[14:21] <Agion> tj83: Could not save the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old.
[14:21] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, why?
[14:21] <coolasJon> anyone here to help?
[14:21] <Blizzara> Agion, try sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[14:22] <Infecto> welkin: ?
[14:22] <tj83> thanks blizzard
[14:22] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: Because you have to deliberately drop successfully received packages to do that?
[14:22] <clarezoe> anyone can help? I can't send mail by claws mail, my email is gmail, there's no one answers me in the #claws channel
[14:22] <tj83> blizzara
[14:22] <Starnestommy> welkin: I'm not sure what needs to be changed in it.  Someone in ##c might know
[14:22] <erUSUL> clarezoe: i use it and works ...
[14:22] <jrib> welkin: conio.h is a windows thing
[14:22] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, O.K. I see.
[14:23] <welkin> Starnestommy>>>>>> ooh..k.. thanks...........
[14:23] <Infecto> welkin: whats the error?
[14:23] <Starnestommy> welkin: it might be iostream.h instead of conio.h
[14:23] <Sp4rKy> hi there
[14:23] <clarezoe> erUSUL, could you tell me your settings? I got the error message "553-5.1.2 We weren't able to find the recipient domain. Please check"
[14:23] <Sp4rKy> anyone using usbuirt with lirc ?
[14:23] <jrib> welkin: it's non-standard at least
[14:23] <clarezoe> erUSUL, it worked fine before, just happens today
[14:23] <Infecto> welkin: there is a loot of errors
[14:23] <tj83> Agion... if it doesnt work on reboot "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" or if you used blizzera's line or .old if you used that.. and save it at xorg.conf to go back to the orginal file.
[14:24] <markqvist> Hi there. Is this the correct channel for asking technical questions on Ubuntu?
[14:24] <jrib> markqvist: this one
[14:24] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: You might do some other stuff, like delaying ack packets or playing with window size; but it depends on what exactly your goal is.
[14:24] <welkin> Infecto>>>>>>>>>but it works on windows.... how to compile in linux???
[14:24] <tj83> Agion... do you understand what to do?
[14:25] <Agion> tj83: nope, not really, im on text editor and i cant understand how to mix some console things on saving file
[14:25] <tj83> ok lets PM real fast
[14:25] <erUSUL> clarezoe: and happens with avery mail you try ? it seems a problem with the mail address you are sending to
[14:25] <jrib> Infecto: did you see what I told you?
[14:25] <MolePrince> What is a command to ping my subnet please?  I want to discover the IP of my network printer.
[14:25] <markqvist> Okay. I have a question about my bootloader. I Installed Ubuntu on a portable USB disk, wanting to be able to take my installation with me on the go, but unfortunately the bootloader was installed on my computers main drive. Is there a way to install the bootloader directly to the USB disk, so i can boot it on other computers?
[14:26] <Infecto> jrib: no i did not.
[14:26] <Blizzara> ping -b <IP_ADDRESS> if 192.168.0.* is your subnet, MolePrince
[14:26] <markqvist> I'm using GRUB, and Ubuntu 8.04
[14:26] <jrib> welkin: did you see what I told you?
[14:26] <erUSUL> clarezoe: sttings are normal on receiving on sending smp i have SMP AUTH and i have ssl enabled on both
[14:26] <jrib> Infecto: yeah sorry, confused you with welkin
[14:26] <Lynet> welkin: Perhaps rewrite to not use dos-specific stuff? conio.h is neither aprt of the standard c runtime nor required by posix.
[14:26] <Infecto> welkin: it cant work on windows either.
[14:26] <clarezoe> erUSUL, I have only gmail, thanks maybe I should try other mail, will come back later
[14:26] <welkin> oh....... sorry guys........... just now i saw my errors...............
[14:26] <welkin> sorry sorrry
[14:27] <MolePrince> Blizzara: I tried that and it only returns the IP of my router.
[14:27] <welkin> i had many errors....
[14:27] <gamez_> slt
[14:27] <gamez_> il y a kelkun
[14:27] <bazhang> !fr
[14:27] <jrib> !fr | gamez_
[14:27] <ubot3> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr
[14:27] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, It's limited "to-the-world" channel and not limited "local" channel. i don't want to occupy the whole "to-the-world" channel (only INCOMING: from world to the computer)... is that possible? :)
[14:27] <ubot3> gamez_: please see above
[14:27] <Blizzara> MolePrince, sorry, no idea then
[14:27] <welkin> oh....... sorry guys........... just now i saw my errors............... jrib lynet Infecto
[14:28] <clarezoe> erUSUL, it woks with other mail, so I think it's the problem with gmail,
[14:29] <STSX> MolePrince: Do you know how to use "fping"? I would have to check what syntax you need, but it will ping a whole subnet and find alive hosts.
[14:29] <Lynet> Wilde_Sehnsucht: So you want to rate-limit uplink but not rate-limit downlink? Sure, that's possible.
[14:29] <MolePrince> STSX: I can learn, thanks :)
[14:30] <Wilde_Sehnsucht> Lynet, No. I want to rate-limit downlink (traffic that goes FROM the world TO computer).
[14:30] <_moro_bana_> !tv
[14:30] <ubot3> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[14:30] <STSX> MolePrince: This will help you get started: "fping -g <IP_ADDRESS>/24" where you give your own subnet of course if it is different.
[14:31] <welkin> jrib lynet Infecto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can any one tel me how to c the output of the file????
[14:31] <jrib> welkin: did you compile it?
[14:31] <_moro_bana_> !mythtv
[14:31] <ubot3> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[14:33] <MolePrince> STSX: Perfect, thank you. :)  turns out arp -am | grep ether got it too.
[14:33] <MolePrince> err, -a that is
[14:34] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> i completed rectifying the errors
[14:34] <STSX> MolePrince: True, but if you use arp, I believe you are relying on the arp cache, which may or may not be up-to-date.
[14:34] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> how can i see the output??
[14:34] <jrib> welkin: did you run 'gcc -o file file.c' where file.c is your source code and not get errors?
[14:35] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> ya i finished
[14:35] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> no errors
[14:35] <Blizzara> welkin, then run './file'
[14:35] <jrib> welkin: then you give the path to the executable that was created.  In my example, you would run './file' if you are in the directory where you compiled it
[14:36] <ndee> hey there, does anyone have mt-daapd running?
[14:36] <The_ManU_212> is it bad when x chrashes while in konsole is something important running like an installation?
[14:37] <arthur> question? 1. file recovery 2. backup any good programs in the repository?
[14:37] <Dr_willis> !backup
[14:37] <ubot3> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:37] <hccmb> can the ubuntu livecd boot usb devices?
[14:37] <dimas869> anyone know how to get this fix?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:37] <recon69> bye, my compile is finished and going to play :)
[14:38] <arthur> what about file recovery programs?
[14:38] <dimas869> e
[14:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> hccmb, I've heard of people booting from USB using a variant of the Edgy livecd
[14:38] <jrib> !recover | arthur
[14:38] <ubot3> arthur: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although a method that might work in some cases is described at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[14:38] <tj83> Agion... is back yet from reboot... must have run into problems
[14:38] <Sir_Fawnpug> Although the installation gets quitbig
[14:38] <Dr_willis> arthur,  good luck with that. :) thats why one makes backups..
[14:38] <dimas869> does anyone know how to get this fix...Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:38] <arthur> ok that was simple
[14:38] <tj83> isnt*
[14:38] <hccmb> ok , i try to google to find it
[14:39] <arthur> i just want to see if it works... i got pleanty of hard drives with stuff on them...lol
[14:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> You'll have to excuse my mispellings, I had a wee bit much to drink last night
[14:40] <bazhang> !usb | Sir_Fawnpug
[14:40] <ubot3> Sir_Fawnpug: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:41] <arthur> oh Sir_Fawnpug was that like apt-get me -a beer?
[14:41] <david__> can anybody help with ati?
[14:41] <bazhang> !ot | arthur
[14:41] <ubot3> arthur: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:41] <bazhang> arthur, take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[14:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> arthur, I'll meet you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <dimas869> does anyone know how to fix this?....Dpkg: error of processing, in the card index `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near the line 26987 package `glchess' :  error in the chain `Version' `4194304:' : there is nothing after the two points in the number of version AND: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned go error code (2)
[14:42] <bing_> i need to make a back up of grub bootloader but when the text file opens  using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. there is no text in
[14:42] <bazhang> dimas869, pastebin sources.list please
[14:43] <paulson> hi
[14:43] <dimas869> bazhang would you give me the link please
[14:43] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com dimas869
[14:43] <c_sokun> which IDE does Ubuntu developer used for coding python?
[14:44] <STSX> bing_: Maybe first do "ls -l /boot/grub" and confirm that file exists first.
[14:44] <jrib> c_sokun: why does it have to be an ide?  Just use a text editor
[14:44] <gnomefreak> c_sokun: there isnt a stadard
[14:44] <dubby> hey, did evolution get nixed?
[14:44] <tj83> good morning Jack_Sparrow
[14:44] <gnomefreak> s/stadard/standard
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !info evolution
[14:45] <c_sokun> cuz i follow with planet ubuntu feed, see alot of talent dev. using python.
[14:45] <ubot3> evolution: groupware suite with mail client and organizer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.22.0-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2917 kB, installed size 9584 kB
[14:45] <c_sokun> they can't be code all of those in text editor aren't they?
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> tj83 Morning.. not really awake yet, but morning
[14:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, I'm not sure but eclipse might be a good IDE for python, if you're into that sort of thing
[14:45] <jrib> c_sokun: erm, why not...?  Use what works for you
[14:45] <dubby> what happened so it became optional ? because I had it installed and it got deleted by yesterdays updates
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> c_sokun For the most part.. yes
[14:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, text editors + makefiles are pretty versitle.
[14:46] <komp-23> gdfgfdg
[14:46] <bazhang> english please komp-23
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> morning bazhang
[14:46] <komp-23> hi how are you?
[14:46] <bing_> i need to make a back up of grub bootloader but when the text file opens  using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst. there is no text in
[14:46] <bazhang> morning Jack_Sparrow :)
[14:46] <dubby> thats not any specific language thats just a jumble of letters
[14:46] <erisco> I have a bash/launcher question. A few launchers I want to make I am having trouble with, because the software needs the CWD to be where their installation is
[14:47] <erisco> but how can I have the launcher do a cd or emulate it?
[14:47] <erisco> or whatever
[14:47] <dubby> fstab
[14:47] <bing_> stsx: i think it exists it says total 196 then a lot root root
[14:47] <welkin> jrib>>>>>>>>>>> thanks dude i got output but i hve some errors in output
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> bing_ for starters. please use gksudo gedit  and make sure that is /boot/grub/menu.lst   L not 1st
[14:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> c_sokun, if you're looking for a good text editor (not necessarily an IDE, but it has syntax highlighting and the like) you might look at scite.
[14:48] <erisco> do I have to make my own script to point to?
[14:48] <erisco> that will do the cd?
[14:48] <Dasmoover> i have a problem booting into ubuntu, i get a blackscreen and a loading cursor, anyone help me?
[14:48] <tj83> dasmoover... did you get anywhere with noapic?
[14:48] <Dasmoover> i dont know how to enable it
[14:48] <tj83> :)
[14:48] <c_sokun> thanks all, what I need was a tool with intellisent which can save me from remember all the methods, properties name.
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Dasmoover from live cd or after the install or did this work at some point in time
[14:49] <tj83> dasmoover... thats why i was trying to get you to listen to what i was saying as i do use the noapic tag
[14:49] <jrib> c_sokun: a lot of people like vim and emacs, take a look at them
[14:49] <Dasmoover> after install
[14:49] <Dasmoover> right after it
[14:49] <c_sokun> I am familiar with eclipse i will take that route, i will explore more about the makefile
[14:49] <Dasmoover> i have the grub menu
[14:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | Dasmoover
[14:49] <ubot3> Dasmoover: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:49] <tj83> Dasmoover.. when booting up fron HDD... press esc to enter the menu highlight the first option and press "e" to edit
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Dasmoover At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Wrong .. that was for live.. but same diff  see tj83
[14:50] <tj83> Dasmoover.... then add "noapic" to the end of the string and then "b" to boot for a one shot time to see if it works
[14:51] <Thor> do not remove quiet and splash!! I tried but i failed
[14:51] <tj83> dasmoover... if it does work... then you will need to edit grub file manually to make it stick for every boot.
[14:51] <Dasmoover> tj, i hit e, now i see root kernal initrd and quite
[14:52] <tj83> add noapic to the end of that line
[14:52] <Stev1> Hello.  recently I have being experiencing problems hibernating my computer.  when hibernating the final message shows a message:  670877 i8042 aux 00:0a: activation failed and 670902 i8042 kbd 00:0b activation failed.  When I try to reboot, the computer seems to reboot on the ubuntu logo.  Any experienced this or can help?
[14:52] <Dasmoover> which one
[14:52] <tj83> to the end of root kernel initrd quiet noapic
[14:52] <Caf-Fiend> fixed my problem :)
[14:52] <bing_> thanks jack sparrow, im new at this but picking it up slowlry
[14:52] <tj83> dasmoover then press b to boot using your new option
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> thor What are you talking about or to whom
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> to late.. darn
[14:53] <Dasmoover> noacpi, corret?
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[14:53] <asdfgh_> hello
[14:54] <tj83> dasmoover... noapic
[14:54] <spiderfire> can i make a .deb from python script?
[14:54] <rotyyu> hello
[14:54] <Dasmoover> k i am booting
[14:54] <tj83> k
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging
[14:54] <ubot3> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[14:54] <Dasmoover> it restarted my computyer im at grub again
[14:54] <asdfgh_> can someone please help me? i can't change desktops in ubuntu
[14:54] <Caf-Fiend> all i needed to do was run gconf-editor, go to apps/panel/applets/clock_screen0/prefs/ and change format to "custom" nq, and custom format to " %d/%m/%y (%G-W%V-%u), %H:%M" nq
[14:54] <Taza> How would I make a partition image of a windows partition and restore it from Ubuntu?
[14:54] <Caf-Fiend> if anyone else ever had that problem
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza With the dd command
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[14:55] <Taza> I'm thinking either dd or rsync together with gzip, but I'm not sure if dd can do that to partitions
[14:55] <ubot3> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:55] <tj83> dasmoover... do the same thing but add nolapic this time
[14:55] <tj83> plus noapic
[14:55] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[14:55] <paulson> any good irc groups????????????????? plz herlp
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza yes dd works fine for that.. would you like a link
[14:55] <Taza> tj83: What are you helping on?
[14:55] <Dasmoover> it restarted my computer again...
[14:55] <bazhang> !irc | paulson
[14:55] <Taza> Jack_Sparrow: Preferably.
[14:55] <ubot3> paulson: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[14:55] <Taza> I opened all those links already though
[14:56] <Taza> I know how to use dd to backup a whole device but not a partition
[14:56] <prabakaran> hello
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Taza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[14:56] <prabakaran> how to make fire effect ?
[14:56] <tj83> Taza... he cant get ubuntu to come up after install.
[14:56] <lilei> HI
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran do you have ccsm installed
[14:56] <Taza> tj83: Did he try removing quiet from grub?
[14:57] <bazhang> !compiz | prabakaran
[14:57] <gaof> lilei: hi
[14:57] <ubot3> prabakaran: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:57] <prabakaran> i dont know tat
[14:57] <Dasmoover> n o i have not i will now taza
[14:57] <tj83> no.... i am sure he didnt.... is a good suggestion to get some info
[14:57] <The_ManU_212> is it bad when x chrashes while in konsole is something important running like an installation?
[14:57] <rotyyu> prabakaran: System-preferences-advanced desktop effetcs
[14:57] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, could be
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran Which distro/release are you running   lsb_release -a if you dont know
[14:57] <Taza> I personally had an apic problem that resulted me in getting so frustrated I got banned from one of the channels. Was fixed by removing quiet
[14:57] <Dasmoover> the splah screen is now loading
[14:58] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, still downloading or configuring after
[14:58] <prabakaran> i clicked tat fire effect but its not workin
[14:58] <lopin> Is there anyway I can customize the colors of the borders in the appearance menu?
[14:58] <Dasmoover> nope i have some problem
[14:58] <huraah`> hi , just need a little help.. im using ubuntu 8.04 . my problem is bout my soundcard.After i change the card into another pci slot and then i can't hear the sound anymore.any help. tq
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> prabakaran What keys are you using to enable it
[14:58] <tj83> dasmoover.. i am sure you did have the same issue... but did you see any errors?
[14:58] <bazhang> !themes | lopin
[14:58] <ubot3> lopin: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[14:58] <Dasmoover> no no errors
[14:58] <[Realin]> !path
[14:58] <ubot3> Factoid path not found
[14:58] <lopin> I don't want themes...
[14:59] <Dasmoover> tj, may i pm?
[14:59] <lopin> I want to customize the color!
[14:59] <socr> on login I gett this password screen 'unlock keyreing' . it has to do with wireless. and it is annoying. Can't I get rid of it by making something automatic ?
[14:59] <[Realin]> !setpath
[14:59] <ubot3> Factoid setpath not found
[14:59] <Taza> Dasmoover: PM them to me too
[14:59] <Dasmoover> there are no errors
[14:59] <lopin> !colors
[14:59] <ubot3> Factoid colors not found
[14:59] <prabakaran> i dont know d key for fire effect jack . can u tell me ?
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lopin the colors of what
[14:59] <b33r> I'm getting this error on startup after an improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/ can anyone help? :/
[14:59] <Terabyte> Hey does anybody know how to stop openssh from starting up with ubuntu, I only want to start it when I need it, when I issue ssh start command, rather than autostarting and running in the background all the time
[14:59] <tj83> can someone tell how to get to terminal and abort starting x?
[14:59] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: installing, configuring...
[14:59] <aic> Hallo, gibt es bitte einen Ubuntu-Chat auf deutsch ?
[14:59] <bazhang> prabakaran, join #compiz
[14:59] <Assid> err how do i know which init level i am in
[14:59] <socr> aic: no
[14:59] <[Realin]> how do i set path or environment variables in UBUNTU.. do i have to add stuff to bashrc forever or waht ?
[14:59] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, still downloading or after
[15:00] <bijur> hey all :) Good Morning
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: CTRL+ALT+F2
[15:00] <aic> thanks
[15:00] <lopin> Jack_Sparrow: The window borders!
[15:00] <jrib> The_ManU_212: System -> Administration -> Software Services
[15:00] <huraah`> hi , just need a little help.. im using ubuntu 8.04 . my problem is bout my soundcard.After i change the card into another pci slot and then i can't hear the sound anymore.any help. tq
[15:00] <jrib> Terabyte: System -> Administration -> Software Services
[15:00]  * jrib gives up
[15:00] <tj83> Taza and when is it appropriate to use that keycombination?
[15:00] <Terabyte> thanks jrib
[15:00] <bazhang> lopin, that is part of themes
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: Anytime
[15:00] <tj83> ok
[15:00] <tj83> thanx
[15:00] <margarita> alguien habla español?
[15:00] <bijur> jrib: it should detect on its own, just make sure ur hal is running
[15:00] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: installing, configuring...
[15:00] <Taza> tj83: Drops you into a vt, then ps aux to get processes, then kill the x process using kill [pid]
[15:00] <bijur> jrib: /etc/init.d/hal restart
[15:00] <sofiankrt> hi
[15:01] <Taza> tj83: kill -9 [pid] if required
[15:01] <jrib> bijur: wrong person too?
[15:01] <lopin> I don't want a new theme.  I want to use one of the themes I have, but not in orange...
[15:01] <sofiankrt> I tried accessing my local ftp server
[15:01] <sofiankrt> from firefox
[15:01] <bijur> jrib: yeah ! lol
[15:01] <sofiankrt> ip-address:21
[15:01] <bijur> huraah`: that was for u
[15:01] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, try update and upgrade and see what the results are
[15:01] <bijur> jrib: sorry mate
[15:01] <sofiankrt> it said that the port was closed for my protection
[15:01] <tj83> thank you taza
[15:01] <margarita> hi everybody
[15:01] <sofiankrt> how do I disable this?
[15:01] <jrib> [Realin]: ~/.profile
[15:01] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firestarter or iptables.
[15:01] <bazhang> lopin, then alter the one you have
[15:01] <huraah`> bijur : what?
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: from the command line?
[15:02] <lopin> bazhang that's the problem.  I can't...  They're all orange...
[15:02] <[Realin]> jrib, how do i set it ?? using path="mypaht";
[15:02] <margarita> how configuring to run php 5?? i have installed but im not runinig
[15:02] <maghettino> ciao a tutti..
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: Google them both, actually. It's a bit more involved.
[15:02] <jrib> [Realin]: why do you want to do this?
[15:02] <bazhang> !it | maghettino
[15:02] <ubot3> maghettino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:02] <jrib> !lamp > margarita (read the private message from ubottu)
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: isn't it something to do with firefox?
[15:02] <johant> co sa stalo?
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: If Ubuntu is protecting you from something there's usually a good reason and therefore reversing the block is quite difficult
[15:02] <sofiankrt> Taza: can't I just disable something from settings?
[15:02] <Taza> sofiankrt: Nothing of the kind.
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: Again, nothing of the kind.
[15:03] <[Realin]> i want to start tomcat and set some CLASSPATH as well as JAVA_HOME variabl, i could have made a batch file but i dont know how do i write .sh files in UBUNTU
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: Abort what you're doing, you're about to break your system.
[15:03] <bazhang> !en | johant
[15:03] <ubot3> johant: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:03] <sofiankrt> Taza: I set up the server!
[15:03] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: nothing to upgrade
[15:03] <sofiankrt> Taza: There's nothing dangerous with it!
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] /join #bash
[15:03] <Taza> sofiankrt: You're about to break your system.
[15:03] <hccmb> how could i boot an usb pendrive with ubuntu , if the bios will not boot from usb?
[15:03] <jrib> [Realin]: those are different than PATH.  To set an environment variable, you do: export VARIABLE=FOO
[15:03] <bazhang> hccmb, you cannot
[15:03] <Dr_willis_> [Realin],  just a file with  a command on each line, with #!/bin/bash at the first line...
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: what do you mean?
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: Drop what you're doing, read more about the basics of what you're doing. You're on REALLY THIN ICE right there.
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's my server!
[15:04] <[Realin]> sure jack
[15:04] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[15:04] <hccmb> hmm, then i better look into bios first...:)
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: Yeah, but if you're going "firefox issue" with port 21, really. Read more.
[15:04] <[Realin]> thaks Dr_willis_
[15:04] <sofiankrt> Taza: what's wrong with accessing my server?
[15:04] <Taza> sofiankrt: It's not about you accessing your server. It's what port 21 is for.
[15:05] <prabakaran> can any1 tell how to make fire effect wen close d window ?
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: For a http server you're looking at port 80. Port 21 is something completely else.
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] If you just need to know the basics look at any bash script
[15:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> hccmb, you'd have to do it by proxy
[15:05] <albech> is it possible to get 1 year free ssl certificates somewhere?
[15:05] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's not an http server!
[15:05] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's an ftp server
[15:05] <bazhang> prabakaran, you asked in #compiz ?
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: Still 80.
[15:05] <remu> Hey guys, I need help installing the Aurora Engine, I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64.
[15:05] <[Realin]> sure jack
[15:05] <Taza> sofiankrt: 21 is SSH and it's blocked for a good reason.
[15:05] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: in general, can a x-crash destroy a system, when important things are running in konsole
[15:05] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  install the ccsm tool, and  mess with the settings. :)   I set mine to random when it closes.. so i get to see all the effects
[15:05] <Taza> remu: You're **** out of luck
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> albech Wrong room to ask that..
[15:05] <prabakaran> compiz ? baz
[15:05] <Starnestommy> Taza: isn't 22 ssh?
[15:05] <Terabyte> 22 is ssh
[15:06] <Terabyte> 21 is ftp
[15:06] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  at least i set it to random for a few min to show off to the windows users.
[15:06] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, hard to say; depends what was running
[15:06] <Terabyte> client*
[15:06] <albech> Jack_Sparrow: any better suggestions? ;)
[15:06] <sofiankrt> Taza: yeah, 21 is ftp!
[15:06] <dotech> TCP port 21 is FTP (RFC959)
[15:06] <Terabyte> client*
[15:06] <[Realin]> when dr_willis said, i have to write command, my question is setting path="mypath" is a valid command or no ?
[15:06] <jdroid-> Can django and php live happily together in one apache instance?
[15:06] <Taza> dotech: Gah.
[15:06] <STSX> Taza: That's not truepp port 21 is ftp
[15:06] <The_ManU_212> bazhang: hm but if an crash could be so dangerous it is a risk for linux, isnt it?
[15:06] <dotech> www.iana.org has the full list of port assignments.
[15:06] <Taza> sofiankrt: Okay, but still. Google firestarter and iptables.
[15:06] <Taza> remu: Are you registered?
[15:07] <The_ManU_212> thought that maybe such processes are working in another layer as x and you only control them in x
[15:07] <darrend> sofiankrt: what is your problem - running the ftp service or accessing it with firefox?
[15:07] <sofiankrt> Taza: just make sure. there's nothing dangerous about accessing my ftp server through port 21 in firefox, is there?
[15:07] <prabakaran> how to set d ccsm tool ?
[15:07] <sofiankrt> darrend: accessing it
[15:07] <bazhang> The_ManU_212, this is support not conjecture; no idea there sorry
[15:07] <Taza> sofiankrt: Well, opening it is kinda dangerous if it's improperly configured.
[15:07] <darrend> is firefox on the same machine or different machine?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> [Realin] Here is a simple one   http://paste.ubuntu.com/16187/
[15:07] <bazhang> !ccsm | prabakaran
[15:07] <ubot3> prabakaran: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'simple-ccsm'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[15:07] <Taza> sofiankrt: So read up on firestarter, iptables and the ftp server, as I said.
[15:07] <[Realin]> thanks jacky
[15:08] <darrend> sofiankrt: ^^^
[15:08] <ZNup> sdf
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> albech #Ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <bazhang> !cn | ZNup
[15:08] <ubot3> ZNup: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:08] <sofiankrt> Taza: sure will. but I've already accessed it from Places > Connect to Server...
[15:08] <prabakaran> thanks . will try tat
[15:08] <sofiankrt> Taza: is firefox any more dangerous?
[15:08] <Taza> sofiankrt: Nope.
[15:09] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firefox in itself isn't any more dangerous as any other ftp client.
[15:09] <sofiankrt> Taza: it's more convenient for me to use firefox, so I need to disable the block
[15:09] <Taza> !restricteddrivers | Dasmoover
[15:09] <ubot3> Taza: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:09] <nonw46> hi, i'm looking for information on how to add support for a PCI FM-radio card. can anyone possibly point me somewhere?
[15:09] <Taza> !restricted | Dasmoover
[15:09] <ubot3> Dasmoover: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:09] <Taza> Gah.
[15:09] <tjurskallen> hi all. what's the reason a desktop ubuntu kernel does not support over 4 gigs of ram?
[15:09] <Taza> Anyone remember the restricted drivers factoid?
[15:09] <Terabyte> tjurskallen 32bit system
[15:10] <Starnestommy> tjurskallen: it should if it's the 64-bit version
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[15:10] <darrend> tjurskallen: need 64-bit
[15:10] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:10] <bazhang> taza binarydrivers
[15:10] <nonw46> !fm
[15:10] <ubot3> Factoid fm not found
[15:10] <prabakaran> wats d keybindin for fire effect ?
[15:10] <Terabyte> tjruskallen maximmum addressable space with a 32 bit system is 2^32 = 4gb
[15:10] <sofiankrt> Taza: I think firefox itself is blocking ftp, not ubuntu or my router
[15:10] <nonw46> !radio
[15:10] <ubot3> radio: ncurses-based radio application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB
[15:10] <DjViper> where are the right-click menu actions for nautilus stored?
[15:10] <DjViper> ie. extract here
[15:10] <DjViper> etc
[15:10] <Taza> sofiankrt: Firefox blocking ftp? Never had that.
[15:10] <tjurskallen> 32-bit kernels with PAE enabled should support up to 64 gigs of ram no?
[15:10] <TuxPWNZ> Guys, My Dvd-Rom does not detect DVD movies, can anybody help?
[15:10] <amikrop> A package depends on kernel 2.6.16 or better. What dependencies do I need to declare (e.g. in the control file)?
[15:10] <bazhang> prabakaran,
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd | TuxPWNZ
[15:10] <ubot3> TuxPWNZ: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:11] <nonw46> TuxPWNZ, did you mess with firmware previously udner windows?
[15:11] <sofiankrt> Taza: if I can access it from connect to server, and ubuntu is allowing me to do that, it means something is wrong with firefox
[15:11] <amoy> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:11] <prabakaran> bazhang , wats d key for fire effect ?
 Excuse me?
[15:11] <Taza> sofiankrt: Are you specifying the right port? :P
[15:11] <bazhang> prabakaran, /join #compiz
[15:11] <jbroome> prabakaran: ask in #compiz
[15:11] <amoy> haaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:12] <jrib> amoy: stop
[15:12] <Dr_willis_> prabakaran,  run that compi config tool and look at the keybings for that fire plugin
[15:12] <sofiankrt> Taza: yeah, 21. the exact words are "Port Restricted for Security Reasons"
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> amoy Please dont do that.. Hello and welcome
[15:12] <b33r>  I'm getting this error on startup after an improper shutdown http://paste.ubuntu.com/16180/ can anyone help? :/
[15:12] <nonw46> TuxPWNZ, as in did you flash the drive with any firmware whily running windows
[15:12] <tjurskallen> just wondering why pae is not enabled by default...
[15:12] <nonw46> sofiankrt, my first guess would be a router
[15:12] <prabakaran> thanks
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tjurskallen Perhaps most people on 32 bit boxes have less than 4 gigs
[15:13] <jbroome> tjurskallen: because the majority of people don't need it
[15:13] <jbroome> if you want to see all 4gb ram, run 64bit or deal with the 3.5 gb that is addressable
 No, I don't remember doing that.
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt Do you have one of the site links you are trying to reach available
[15:13] <sofiankrt> nonw46: my router is ok, I've accessed my server using the router. the problem arises when I use firefox for "purposes other than web browsing" according to them
[15:14] <selocol> can someone tell me why when i type free -m, in the "free" column, the value in the "Mem:" row is different from the "-/+ buffers/cache" row? how much memory is really free? in the mem row, it says i have 993 used and 16 free?? how is that possible. im hardly running anything. thanks
[15:14] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: it's a local server
[15:14] <tjurskallen> there is no official 32-bit kernel with pae enabled to install huh?
[15:14] <nonw46> sofiankrt, this happens with any ftp ip?
[15:14] <Bizzeh> hey, you know how kubuntu has the app in admin to set what drives to auto-mount on startup, and what permitions to give the drive for user access?
[15:14] <sofiankrt> nonw46: I've only tried the local one
[15:14] <Bizzeh> is there an app like that for ubuntu
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt What about outside servers.. can you reach any of those.. if it is only one of your servers it could be in how you have it setup
[15:14] <bazhang> system prefs sessions Bizzeh
[15:15] <bazhang> Bizzeh, oops misread
[15:15] <nonw46> sofiankrt, have you tried disabling the ubuntu add-in in firefox?
[15:15] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: I have only one server
[15:15] <sofiankrt> nonw46: I'll try
[15:15] <nonw46> ....that's still bizarre tho
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh not really an app.. fstab can be edited with any text editor
[15:15] <STSX> selocol: Look under the buffer/cache category for free--that's the most relevant since cached memory is still usable.
[15:16] <DjViper> where are the right-click menu actions for nautilus stored? ie. extract here
[15:16] <selocol> STSX: thanks
[15:16] <etronik> Hi all
[15:16] <Bizzeh> Jack_Sparrow: i know it can, but last time i asked this question,  i was told to edit fstab, i did it, and it hosed my install
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt that still did not answer my question
[15:16] <amenado> Bizzeh-> in addition, there are udev rules to add detected usb drives upon plugin
[15:16] <bazhang> !bum
[15:16] <ubot3> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[15:16] <selocol> hello, i don't understand why "ps" only lists bash as the running process. are firefox, pidgin, etc. not running processes? thanks.
[15:16] <remu> Taza: What do you mean am I registered?
[15:16] <Taza> remu: Check your query
[15:16] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ps -A
[15:16] <etronik> How do I create an initrd image while booted from a rescue disk ? still trying to recover from failed upgrade - TIA
[15:16] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: do you know any external servers I could try?
[15:16] <Taza> I can help you a lot if it's the Bioware Aurora ENgine
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Restoriung your old fstab from a terminal session only takes a minute if you happen to do it wrong
[15:17] <Starnestommy> Taza: unregistered users can now send PMs to registered users because of the recent services change, unless the target user has user mode +E set
[15:17] <amenado> selocol-> there is a man page for ps,  man ps
[15:17] <selocol> mDemocritus: so ps only lists public processes?
[15:17] <selocol> amenado: i looked at it and it says that ps lists the current processes, so my question is, isn't firefox a running process?
[15:17] <Bizzeh> why cant the FOSS world just say "i dont know"
[15:17] <mDemocritus> selocol: ps with no options just gives you the processes running under that session
[15:17] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: I probably have accessed ftp servers, but not with :21
[15:18] <jbroome> selocol: ps -A, as he said
[15:18] <Bizzeh> rather than hiding it behind "do it another way, go find out how to do it"
[15:18] <Starnestommy> Bizzeh: I don't know
[15:18] <Varanger> hi!
[15:18] <Slart> selocol: uhh.. yes they are.. and they show up for me
[15:18] <selocol> mDemocritus: what do you mean by session?
[15:18] <nonw46> Bizzeh, what does FOSS stand for?
[15:18] <amenado> selocol-> yes firefox is a process entry
[15:18] <Varanger> I need a MP3 splitter? Do you know?
[15:18] <Slart> selocol: or.. rather.. they show up if I use ps -A
[15:18] <selocol> amenado: why does it not appear in "ps" but only in "ps -A"?
[15:18] <mDemocritus> selocol: terminal session
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt ftp://ftp.kickchat.com/
[15:18] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ps --help
[15:18] <bay199> what the this is ? sources.list
[15:19] <gaof> I'm having a bit of a wireless issue. There is a thread up on the forums for it, found at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5084534 but we are having some trouble solving it. Basically, my driver and wireless card are detected and working just fine, apparently... but we can't use them or connect to any networks. The wireless light on the network port is blue which means the killswitch is off. I have looked at the other threads and the wiki and nothing
[15:19] <mDemocritus> selocol: or man ps
[15:19] <selocol> thanks everyone. so "ps" alone just lists the running processes in a terminal session. got it
[15:19] <Slart> selocol: but you've read the fine manual for ps, haven't you.. then you recognize this little bit =) "By default, ps selects all processes with the same effective user ID (euid=EUID) as the current user and associated with the same terminal as the invoker.
[15:19] <Bizzeh> free open source software... claims to be all about community and freedom, when in actual fact. its more about comunism
[15:19] <remu> Hey guys, I need help installing the Aurora gtk Engine, I'm on Ubuntu 8.04 x86_64.
[15:20] <nonw46> i need help configuring a v4l fm-tuner card
[15:20] <selocol> Slart: that's...a little too advanced for me to understand, but thanks. i'll look at it more carefully!
[15:20] <tj83> I was helping agion edit xorg.conf... and it didnt fail to start x but not all of his keyboard functions (keys) were operational after reboot... I only edited video and screen options.. why would his keyboard be affected?
[15:20] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: when I click on it, it opens with the file browser. if I try it with firefox, I log anonymously and get a blank page
[15:20] <Slart> Bizzeh: did you have a question? if you just want to rant there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <Chad2408m> Hello, can anyone help me?
[15:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> Slart, I'm sure he's just trolling
[15:20] <bazhang> Bizzeh, indeed chat elsewhere
[15:20] <nonw46> hi Chad2408m
[15:20] <Varanger> Please... anybody... do you know any MP3 aplitter?
[15:20] <Varanger> splitter
[15:21] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: problem solved!
[15:21] <mDemocritus> !ask | Chad2408m
[15:21] <jbroome> nonw46: http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html   3rd hit on the google
[15:21] <Mariux> remu http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[15:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Varanger, by a splitter, what do you mean?
[15:21] <etronik> Varanger: audacity ?
[15:21] <jbroome> Mariux: too slow! :)
[15:21] <Chad2408m> hi nonw48, sorry if I am being rude, I just finally found out how to install XChat, and Im having major problems with Ubuntu right now
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sofiankrt Glad to help
[15:21] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: instead of <IP_ADDRESS>:20, I entered ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:21] <Varanger> Sir_Fawnpug: Cut a MP3 in pieces
[15:21] <Mariux> jbroome ahah
[15:21] <remu> thanks Mariux, ill try that
[15:21] <nonw46> remu, http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-aurora-gtk-engine-13-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html   3rd hit on the google < jbroome
[15:21] <ubot3`> Chad2408m: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Varanger, ah, well as etronik mentioned, Audacity is great for that
[15:22] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: not 20, 21
[15:22] <Bizzeh> Slart: i did ask a question... then was just told "go find out somewhere else"
[15:22] <nonw46> i'm the v4l radio tuner guy
[15:22] <nonw46> ;)
[15:22] <Varanger> etronik: Thanks!
[15:22] <Varanger> Sir_Fawnpug: Thanks!
[15:22] <mDemocritus> wow.... ubot3` is slacking :D
[15:22] <nonw46> Chad2408m, what kind of problems?
[15:22] <sofiankrt> Jack_Sparrow: thanks! Good luck fighting all the pirates in the carribean, bye!
[15:22] <nonw46> we're all ears over here
[15:22]  * Varanger says lol
[15:22] <jbroome> actually, those are nice themes, i'll check them out. :)
[15:22] <Slart> Bizzeh: nope.. you were told how to edit your fstab from what I can see in the logs
[15:22] <etronik> How do I create an initrd image while booted from a rescue disk ? still trying to recover from failed upgrade - TIA
[15:23] <Taza> Varanger: Audacity isn't automatic but it's the best thing that I've seen for ubuntu.
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude | Bizzeh
[15:23] <ubot3`> Bizzeh: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:23] <remu> Mariux, nonw46: I forgot I didn't have buil-essentiall installed, lol, thanks guys
[15:23] <Slart> Bizzeh: but to answer your original question.. nope, I don't think there's an app for setting up drives to automount.. but editing the fstab isn't that hard, you just have to be careful
[15:23] <c_sokun> what is the default version of Netbeans on Hardy?
[15:23] <Bizzeh> Slart: no, i wasnt told HOW, i was told "edit in a text editor" i didnt actualy get an answer to my question
[15:23] <Taza> Bizzeh: Welcome to the Ubuntu Community. Your attitude of expecting anyone to be helpful instead of just chiding you is not appriciated.
[15:24] <nonw46> !!! my panel just froze
[15:24] <ubot3`> nonw46: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:24] <nonw46> how can i restart it?
[15:24] <nonw46> this has happened before
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Did you ask a follow up question before you called us communists
[15:24] <Taza> Bizzeh: There are several apps to set drives to automount. /etc/fstab is still much, much faster.
[15:24] <Taza> Bizzeh: Plus, OSS is more like ultracapitalism
[15:24] <mynyml> are the rumors true about hardy amd64 being able to install flash out of the box? no more manual hacks?
[15:25] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: try running "man fstab" from a terminal
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[15:25] <ubot3`> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[15:25] <nonw46> Bizzeh, it's actually really easy once you get the hang of it.... but i personally think you can use an app, it's easier
[15:25] <Bizzeh> /etc/fstab is faster, when you know what your doing, and you KNOW fstab.. when you dont, you have to go through the trouble of breaking it and doing it wrong and the unabiltiy to boot your pc several times
[15:25] <nonw46> exactly
[15:25] <Taza> Bizzeh: /etc/fstab is both faster and easier for automount instead of mount on click.
[15:25] <Slart> Bizzeh: you'd better check your logs.. you asked if there was an app, someone suggested you edit fstab using a text editor.. then you told us that last time you did that it hosed your system.. that's not a question.. if you have any questions about editing the fstab you can ask those and we will do our best to help you
[15:25] <nonw46> if my panel, "ubuntu menu", and everythign else other than xchat weren't frozen i'd look it up for ya
[15:25] <kane77> c_sokun, I'm not sure, but I'd say 6.0
[15:26] <mynyml> Jack_Sparrow: is there any thing left that would be annoying on 64bits? how about skype?
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: make a backup of it - cp /etc/fstab /etc fstab.bck
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh You are told it took just a minute to restore your old fstab.. Did you bother to ask any questions about that
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: then if you break it, you can just restore the backup
[15:26] <nonw46> can you all please stop fighting for a minute and give me a hand maybe?
[15:26] <Bizzeh> when you have a broken fstab.. and cannot boot into text... then having a backup is useless
[15:26] <Taza> mDemocritus: Both incomplete and not necessarily the best idea.
[15:26] <kane77> c_sokun, yup it's 6.0
[15:26] <nonw46> what's ubuntu's equivalent of "restarting explorer.exe"?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mynyml I still use 32 so Im not the best source for answers on that
[15:26] <mDemocritus> Taza: why is that?
[15:26] <mynyml> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[15:26] <Slart> nonw46: pkill nautilus
[15:26] <Taza> nonw46: startx
[15:27] <c_sokun> how can I check version of the package on the repository? I don't want to apt-get install if it not the version I want.
[15:27] <kane77> nonw46, killall gnome-panel
[15:27] <Stroganoff> haha its not startx
[15:27] <ompaul> nonw46, log out an back in mi
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzeh Please ask your support related questions and avoid this discussion
[15:27] <amenado> Bizzeh-> have you have your coffee yet? drink a cup of joe, your nerves will chill a bit :P
[15:27] <nonw46> thanks all but i can't get a command prompt
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: It most decidedly is.
[15:27] <Slart> nonw46: I think it restarts by itself... you can just kill X too if you want that (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[15:27] <Chad2408m> The resolution of Ubuntu is horrible at 640x480.  I cant hardely see anything. I tried to follow all these tutorials about xorg.config and such but got nowhere.  Ubuntu has nothing written for 'Monitor' or 'Display' in the file.  I know all the things you need to configure a monitor (eg vertsync, and size) but I dont know what to do.  Whenever I try to do something I can never hit apply or ok wither because the resolution is
[15:27] <Chad2408m> too low.  Please help me I posted a problem at the ubuntu forums but got no help.  My driver should either be: Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller or i810.  Can anyone tell me how to either manually configure a driver/monitor, or tell me how/where to download drivers for these cards.  any help is very appreciated. Thanks!
[15:27] <nonw46> BRB
[15:27] <Stroganoff> Taza most people use a login manager..
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: So?
[15:27] <nonw46> wait, isn't ctrl+alt+backspace "reset to defaults"?
[15:27] <Taza> Stroganoff: That's the closest equilevant of restarting explorer.exe if you ever need to start it.
[15:28] <Starnestommy> nonw46: no, that's "restart X"
[15:28] <mDemocritus> Taza: i get that it's incomplete, but why is making a backup of fstab not a good idea?
[15:28] <nonw46> ah
[15:28] <bazhang> nonw46, that will restart xserver
[15:28] <Sir_Fawnpug> nonw46, ctrl-alt-bksp usually kills X
[15:28] <Stroganoff> Taza i think you overrate explorer.exe :p
[15:28] <c_sokun> kane77: thanks
[15:28] <mynyml> Does anyone know if there's still stuff that doesn't work as simply on hardy 64bits as it does on 32bits?
[15:28] <mynyml> like skype?
[15:28] <Taza> mDemocritus: Making a backup of fstab is a good idea. Making one in /etc/ is not. And you need Knoppix to restore it.
[15:28] <bazhang> flash?
[15:28] <ConstyXIV> anyone know how to use a phone as a modem via bluetooth?
[15:28] <mDemocritus> Taza: ah good call
[15:29] <Slart> nonix4: it's a violent way of killing X.. only use if if you have to
[15:29] <kane77> mynyml, flash and skype work without any problems
[15:29] <mynyml> bazhang: according to the rumors, flash just works out of the box..
[15:29] <Taza> mDemocritus: Or the Ubuntu LiveCD but that's, uh, just awful.
[15:29] <Slart> ConstyXIV: I've done it using my laptop and mobile.. it's a bit weird but it works
[15:29] <OsamaK> Hello! Is Firefox 3.0RC packaged on Ubuntu? If so, How to install it? I have no updates for firefox since version beta 5..
[15:29] <mynyml> kane77: thank you! anything else i should be careful about?
[15:29] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: so to amend my advice, cp /etc/fstab ~/fstab.bck
[15:29] <ratpoison> hello, how can I review all the active connections on my pc and which program controls them?
[15:29] <mDemocritus> Bizzeh: to make the backup
[15:29] <Taza> mDemocritus: cp /etc/fstab ~/.fstab
[15:29] <Taza> :P
[15:29] <bazhang> mynyml, thus the question mark :)
[15:29] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: try sudo netstat -ap -A tcp
[15:29] <darrend> ratpoison: sudo netstat -panlt
[15:29] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, have you heard of a program called Ethereal? It's pretty useful when it comes to auditing connections
[15:30] <Slart> ratpoison: netstat can give you some information.. usually to much information... but it's a start
[15:30] <selocol> Slart: so ctrl+alt+backspace is not the same thing as log out?
[15:30] <Bizzeh> i changed my mind. this place is the worst help community i have ever been to
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mDemocritus check this  cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/fstab.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[15:30] <Chad2408m> Hello, can someone please help me?!?
[15:30] <Terabyte> Hey, where can I find the hardy heron dsektop background for download?
[15:30] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: but with "inet" not "tcp"
[15:30] <Bizzeh> im switching back to gentoo
[15:30] <Bizzeh> bye
[15:30] <Slart> selocol: nope.. it's more of a "yank the cord out of the wall"-way of logging out
[15:30] <ratpoison> thnx guys for the wealth of info, I'll man netstat for more details
[15:30] <Taza> He's switching back to Gentoo because Ubuntu is too difficult? :P
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Switching to gentoo.. that will work
[15:30] <kane77> mynyml, hmm.. I can't think of anything right now.. the situation got better (I've been running 64-bit ubuntu for 3 years now)
[15:30] <mDemocritus> that's hilarious
[15:30] <etronik> anybody help me create an initrd image ?? without it I have a dead system
[15:30] <selocol> Slart: oh my.. thanks, that's very helpful. i've been using it all the time as if it were logging out
[15:30] <Chad2408m> hello?
[15:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, I'm a bit curious as to why his fstab would be so complex that he couldn't regenerate it by hand
[15:31] <mynyml> kane77: i guess its time i give it a try then. thanks
[15:31] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: You, frankly, shouldn't be here.
[15:31] <mDemocritus> gentoo has its place... it taught me so much about linux during the THREE WEEKS it took me to get X running :D
[15:31] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: Your skill level is WAY too high for users like that.
[15:31] <mynyml> bazhang: got ya =) yeah i guess i'll believe it when i see it for myself =)
[15:31] <Starnestommy> !test
[15:31] <ubot3`> Failed!
[15:31] <mDemocritus> Chad2408m: patience is a virtue... what was your question again
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Sir_Fawnpug It inst diffiecult..
[15:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, probably not, but if he's going to throw salt in the wound and whine about volunteers helping him
[15:32] <Taza> Sir_Fawnpug: Me and you could easily regenerate a fstab by hand but if he managed to break his system editing fstab he ain't got the skill
[15:32] <Starnestommy> !fixres | Chad2408m (try this)
[15:32] <ubot3`> Chad2408m (try this): The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:32] <bazhang> lets get back ontopic :)
[15:32] <smallfoot-> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY UBUNTU IS BROKEN!!!!!!!!
[15:32] <smallfoot-> W: GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-proposed Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster[at]ubuntu[dot]com>
[15:32] <amenado> gaof  you there? we can try some things
[15:32] <Slart> smallfoot-: stop that..
[15:32] <bazhang> smallfoot-, lose the caps
[15:32] <selocol> if i ctrl+alt+backspace and i get a black/blank screen with no login window and ctrl+alt+f4 or f7 both don't work, what key combination should i try? thanks
[15:32] <smallfoot-> ????++++
[15:32] <Sir_Fawnpug> Taza, well it's not something that I generally recommend to ubuntu users
[15:32] <ratpoison> can I use apt-get to just read the package description?
[15:33] <jhasse> How can I change the "sans-serif" alias?
[15:33] <Starnestommy> smallfoot-: ubuntu isn't broken, but that GPG key is.  Try disabling the hardy-proposed repository
[15:33] <kane77> smallfoot-, there is no reason for SHOUTING
[15:33] <Taza> Anyway, I'm out. I have a lot of reading to do
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- Running proposed ... in your sources for a particular reason ?
[15:33] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: try aptitude show <package-name>
[15:33] <smallfoot-> ratpoison, "dpkg -l "compiz"" maybe
[15:33] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow, yes i want new cool stuff on my computers
[15:33] <kane77> ratpoison, aptitude show packagename
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- Asking for trouble...
[15:34] <etronik> mmm my help request ain't getting thru.. I wonder if I shout ;-)
[15:34] <Slart> smallfoot-: new stuff isn't always cool
[15:34] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow, but ubnutu is boring, i want cool stuff, like new compiz plugins
[15:34] <Chad2408m> My questions is basicly: I need help with the Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller or i810 driver.  Can anyone tell me how to either manually configure a driver/monitor, or tell me how/where to download drivers for these cards.  any help is very appreciated. My resolution is too low to do anything (640x480)
[15:34] <Starnestommy> smallfoot-: new stuff breaks faster
[15:34] <mDemocritus> selocol: try ctrl-alt-backspace, then hit f2 when the screen goes black
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- I can give you a page of them if that is what you want..
[15:34] <mDemocritus> selocol: it might get you to a login
[15:34] <smallfoot-> Jack_Sparrow,  oh ok
[15:34] <Slart> smallfoot-: then you'll have to learn how to handle stuff like this..
[15:35] <jhasse> Chad2408m, try to install "915resolution"
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: thanks
[15:35] <Slart> smallfoot-: without running around shouting like the world is going to end for every error message
[15:35] <mDemocritus> selocol: did it work?
[15:35] <ratpoison> oh. Basically from what I understand, aptitude and apt-get are similar tools, but apt-get has super COW powers and aptitude doesn't. Other than that, are the interchangeable? which one should I prefer when I could use both?
[15:35] <smallfoot-> calculator dont have color on buttons, webcam dont work, it dont have wallpaper changer like macosx
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303  fish inside your cube floating windows etc
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: i'll have to wait until it happens again.. ;P
[15:35] <selocol> mDemocritus: ive been pulling the power cord previously :/
[15:35] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: aptitude has a nice interface when run with no parameters
[15:35] <bazhang> smallfoot-, we talked about this before; have you forgotten?
[15:36] <mDemocritus> selocol: ah... what was the original reason for it?
[15:36] <Slart> ratpoison: they are interchangable..
[15:36] <Slart> ratpoison: some people say aptitude handles dependencies better... but that was a couple of years ago..
[15:36] <selocol> mDemocritus: i just did ctrl+alt+backspace and the login window never appeared
[15:36] <umyi> Hello, is there some way to get restore the last directory you have deleted?
[15:36] <smallfoot-> bazhang, maybe
[15:36] <Slart> umyi: trash bin?
[15:36] <umyi> Slart: Yes
[15:36] <Slart> umyi: if you used nautilus
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart Ubuntu implimented tohse features in our verrsion of apt-get
[15:36] <smallfoot-> bazhang, oh wait, yes you was the guy who banned me
[15:36] <mDemocritus> selocol: right... but i'm asking... why did you need to do that?
[15:37] <smallfoot-> bazhang, yes, but this time i didnt say any bad words
[15:37] <bloops> Can I install step from the repositories? Its in kde-edu.
[15:37] <ratpoison> other than having freedom of choice, what is the reason for two tools for basically the same thing?
[15:37] <Terabyte> Hey, where can I find the hardy heron desktop background for download?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> smallfoot- and you are well on your way again
[15:37] <ripper666> hey i know that automatix is done making programs for ubuntu atfer 7.4 but are their any other programs that do the same thing???
[15:37] <umyi> Slart: I might have, dont remember exactly how I did it
[15:37] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please read this: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[15:37] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: yes.. it was fixed in.. dapper? feisty?
[15:37] <selocol> mDemocritus: i didn't know what else to do
[15:37] <umyi> slart it was few hours ago though
[15:37] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, it pretty much boils down to choice
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart I have slept since then so I dont remember
[15:37] <Starnestommy> ratpoison: aptitude has some extra features, handles conflicts better, and has a more advanced interface
[15:37] <Slart> umyi: do you see the trash bin on your desktop?
[15:37] <mDemocritus> ratpoison: welcome to the FLOSS comunity... there's normally at least a couple ways to do the same thing
[15:38] <umyi> Slart: No, I used live cd to install
[15:38] <Chad2408m> jhasse, thanks for the information, but when I installed it through synaptic it said this: 915resolution   -   What should I do know?
[15:38] <mDemocritus> selocol: you still misunderstand me... why did you need to do that? did the system lock up, or what?
[15:38] <ratpoison> mDemocritus, I realise that... it's just that I find the "me too" project philosophy a bit redundant
[15:39] <jhasse> Chad2408m, you could try "sudo apt-get install 915resolution"
[15:39] <ray_> anyone experiences ubuntu server and gallery2 ?
[15:39] <Slart> umyi: hmm.. ok.. let's back up a bit.. you had a working ubuntu system.. and using that system you deleted some files/folders.. and you're still running that same system, right?
[15:39] <selocol> mDemocritus: yes, without the login screen, i couldn't do anything. system did not respond to any of the key combinations i tried. so it locked up, perhaps
[15:39] <mDemocritus> ratpoison: of course it is... but there's scenarios that make it worthwile
[15:39] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, the redundancy, imho, is actually a good thing
[15:39] <Chad2408m> jhasse, sorry about that.  It said that It couldnt find something and that it wasnt automaticly configured and that I should do it manually, what do I do now?
[15:39] <gaof_> I was told how to fix the wireless but it requires a restart of init.d/networking and then using iwconfig for the connection with dhclient wlan0. Is there a way to automate such a task, not as a script, but to just have the system do this instead of us for wireless upon loading the destop?
[15:39] <mDemocritus> selocol: ok so when you boot, you don't get the login screen?
[15:39] <umyi> Slart: Yes
[15:39] <etronik> well! time to blow my system out the water and try to restore data from tape later on... my best guess right now is upgrade to Hardy Heron completely F###d my system !
[15:40] <Tyller> whatever
[15:40] <bloops> is there kde-edu 'beta1' in the repos?
[15:40] <Slart> umyi: you installed the regular ubuntu?
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik Please dont swear even if you try to discuize it
[15:40] <selocol> mDemocritus: i was in fluxbox. i wanted to switch to gnome, so i hit ctrl+alt+backspace. instead of the login screen showing, i got a blank/black screen, which did not respond to any key combinations. i tried ctrl+alt+f7 and ctrl+alt+f4 and ctrl+alt+backspace.
[15:40] <ratpoison> Sir_Fawnpug, well redundancy is the last measure you can take for system reliability, but it increases system complexity. I guess this is an engineering question of how to compromise between the two
[15:40] <amenado> Chad2408m-> can you do this   gksu displayconfig-gtk   and configure your video card from there?
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: Yes, from the live CD, I had still the files when it was installed
[15:41] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid
[15:41] <spsneo> This is not a supported use of GTK+
[15:41] <Slart> umyi: if you open the file explorer (it's really called nautilus).. ie double click on a drive or something
[15:41] <spsneo> what to do
[15:41] <Infinito_> I think it's much better this way.. if you don't like the way some tool is developed you can step in and develop another one to please yourself and maybe other discontent linux users, ratpoison.
[15:41] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: sure. soryr
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: ok
[15:41] <mDemocritus> selocol: try not to use ctrl-alt-backspace unless you really need to... it's not a very nice way to restart X
[15:41] <mDemocritus> selocol: from what i understand that is
[15:41] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: sure. sorry!
[15:41] <Slart> umyi: do you see a panel on the left side with your drives?
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik I understand your frustration...
[15:41] <umyi> Slart: yes
[15:42] <selocol> mDemocritus: yeah, i didn't know that until just now.. thanks
[15:42] <durka> how do you add a startup item when it's a program that has to be run from the command line with a specific $PWD
[15:42] <Infinito_> I think it's cool to consider aspects other than technical when building a system, but I speak only for myself here :)
[15:42] <Slart> umyi: at the bottom of that panel there should be something called "Trash".. click it
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik Do you keep a sep /home partition?
[15:42] <brando1> hi, could someone help me install my router and tell me what I need to do to do "port forwarding"?
[15:42] <pen> selocol, what's your question?
[15:42] <mDemocritus> selocol: np... if you log out of fluxbox, do you get back to the login prompt?
[15:42] <Chad2408m> amendado, thank you very much.  I was able to change the resolution, now I just have to kog on/off for changes to be made.  Ill tell you if it works.
[15:43] <selocol> mDemocritus: yes
[15:43] <ray_> please anyone, ubuntu (latest) server and gallery2, installed it, installed imagemagick, jhead and all the 'have to' stuff on a ubuntu web/php/mysql server, no directory with gallery, what am i doing wrong
[15:43] <STSX> durka: Just include the full path when you specify the program in the "command" area.
[15:43] <mDemocritus> selocol: ok cool.... don't use ctrl-alt-backspace then :D
[15:43] <brando1> how do i install a linksys router in ubuntu?
[15:43] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid This is not a supported use of GTK+ what to do
[15:43] <umyi> Slart: There is no Trash, Its the 7.04 version
[15:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> ratpoison, I guess the best answer for that is that UNIX is inherently modular, so the redundancy lets more advanced users set up their environment to their liking
[15:43] <selocol> mDemocritus: ok, got it :P
[15:43] <Caf-Fiend> morning all, security-wise am I ok to change the permissions of /var/www/ so I can put files in there?
[15:43] <Slart> umyi: ohh.. my bad.. thought you were using hardy.. hmm ok.. hang on
[15:44] <soshka> hello helpline?
[15:44] <Terabyte> brando: the linksys router installs itself
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> brando1 for port forwarding.. See your router setup.. not a hard thing to do
[15:44] <mar77i> hey, where does the stuff go I choose "only for download" in synaptic?
[15:44] <mDemocritus> brando1: there's no software to install... plug into the router, reboot the system, then point a web browser to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[15:44] <bazhang> hello soshka
[15:44] <Slart> umyi: on the desktop.. do you see a trash bin icon anywhere? usually lower right corner or on the background itself
[15:44] <Terabyte> brando: portforwarding depends on the router, what router do you have (what isp are you with)
[15:44] <mDemocritus> brando1: the rest is up to you and linksys :D
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> mDemocritus thanks.. you beat me to it
[15:44] <mar77i> [[for]]... or so
[15:44] <Armada> I've broken my ntfs partition, but I know what's wrong. In the partitiontable it says the partition starts at 63 but it actually starts at 64. How do I fix this?
[15:45] <brando1> so then how do i configure port forwarding, im not even sure what that is, but i read that its what i need to do to make Transmission faster
[15:45] <umyi> Slart: Ah, i didnt look after it there in first place
[15:45] <ratpoison> Sir_Fawnpug, another thing is that if one tool fails some reason, you have another tool for the job. That causes some bloating I guess, but it boils down to choice I guess
[15:45] <Terabyte> brando: you will find the control panel for your router by typing <IP_ADDRESS> into firefox. from there you can setup port forwarding,
[15:45] <bazhang> www.portforward.com brando1
[15:45] <Slart> umyi: =) it can be sneaky
[15:45] <mDemocritus> brando1: it's in the applications and gaming section usually
[15:45] <suRs> can anyone tell me how do i check what ip i have in terminal ?
[15:45] <umyi> my files were there thx :)
[15:45] <mDemocritus> brando1: follow the link from bazhang... good site for it
[15:45] <Terabyte> ifconfig
[15:45] <AlexCONRAD> hi, how can I browse my windows network neighborhood with ubuntu through GUI ? I don't see how I can browse it (i'm under xfce)
[15:45] <suRs> my conky says i have ip adress <IP_ADDRESS> and its  pretty still
[15:45] <Infinito_> Slart, you want to make your trash icon visible ?
[15:45] <mar77i> can anyone tell me where I have to look for the deb file which synaptic has "only downloaded" for me?
[15:46] <brando1> thanks
[15:46] <Slart> Infinito_: nope.. but thanks anyway =)
[15:46] <mDemocritus> suRs: ifconfig
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba | AlexCONRAD
[15:46] <ubot3`> AlexCONRAD: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[15:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I'm not sure if there's an easy way to fix that
[15:46] <Infinito_> ok
[15:46] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: Then what's the hard way? :P
[15:46] <ray_> anyone with a solution for this gallery2 problem ?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> mar77i /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:46] <soshka> i have internet issues anyone willing to help
[15:47] <kwtm> Why can't I play an "ogg" (vorbis) audio file?  What Ubuntu package do I have to install to play these files (with Amarok, mplayer, xine, etc)?
[15:47] <chev_chelios> soshka: what is it?
[15:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, my advice would be to back up the partition table and take a hex editor to it
[15:47] <mar77i> Jack_Sparrow: thank you!
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ogg
[15:47] <ubot3`> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, you might also be able to do it with fdisk or gparted, but I'm not so sure about that
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mar77i np
[15:47] <Infinito_> soshka, what's your problem exactly ?
[15:47] <Slart> umyi: did you find your files?
[15:47] <noobuntu> hello @all
[15:47] <chev_chelios> hello noobuntu
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi | chev_chelios
[15:47] <ubot3`> chev_chelios: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:47] <chev_chelios> nice nick btw
[15:47] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks, I'll check the web page.  Didn't expect to have issues with a non-restricted format like Ogg.
[15:47] <Caf-Fiend> so yeah - hw do i change permissions of /var/www so I can put my web page in there?
[15:47] <noobuntu> thx :D
[15:48] <Caf-Fiend> or am i going about things the wrong way
[15:48] <noobuntu> it tells all about my ubuntu knowledge :P
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Agreed
[15:48] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, as long as you keep all of the relevant info handy, you could redo the partition table and it won't format anything
[15:48] <umyi> Slart: I was because i importing some pics to my pc, after i did format the camera, i found out that 1/3, was just grey, then I remembered that I had imported it twice and would just find out whether they were grey both, yes I found the file, thank you, but they 1/3 were grey both places
[15:48] <chev_chelios> soshka: what is your problem with internet?
[15:48] <umyi> *it
[15:48] <Armada> Sir_Fawnpug: What if I request to move the partition but stop the operation as soon as it corrected the table?
[15:48] <daniel_> Hello folks
[15:48] <Slart> umyi: ah.. to bad
[15:48] <ray_> Caf-Fiend: no you dont change them let them be the way they are
[15:49] <darrend> is qemu still the right package to be installing, or has something superseded it now?
[15:49] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Hey! That web page doesn't say how to play Ogg files. :P  My Ubuntu came with the ability to play mp3's but not Ogg!?
[15:49] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: this is the place where all noobs and kung fu masters exchange the knowledge, because knowledge is power!
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Armada Sounds like a good way to break your system
[15:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, I think fdisk is transaction-based, it might rollback
[15:49] <daniel_> I'm about to download an Ubuntu install CD to install on my Desktop. Now I'm struggling whether to use 64 or 32 bit. Does compiz work with 64 bit on Ubuntu?
[15:49] <Caf-Fiend> ray_: cheers, ok then, where do I put my html files?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm What distro are you using.. clearly not ubuntu
[15:49] <Slart> daniel: how much memory do you have ?
[15:49] <Sir_Fawnpug> Armada, don't quote me on that though
[15:49] <bazhang> daniel, may as well get 32bit
[15:49] <daniel> Slart: I don't have more than 4GB of memory
[15:49] <umyi> Slart: Now I moved the pics to a USB stick, then it reset the modified date both on the USB stick and on the desktop
[15:50] <mDemocritus> daniel: 64 bit is usually more of a hassle than it's worth
[15:50] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty, currently up to date.
[15:50] <daniel> bazhang: Yes I guess that'll keep away much trouble.
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm in a term   type lsb_release -a
[15:50] <daniel> Thanks guys, will go 32bit then.
[15:50] <ray_> Caf-Fiend: simply in /var/www, use sudo if needed to copy them
[15:50] <Slart> daniel: 64-bit can be a bit cranky when it comes to flash, java, electronic id's and such.. but you'll get those 0,5% extra performance =)
[15:50] <soshka> sorry extreme lag
[15:50] <noobuntu> chev_chelios: so, kung-fu masters, beat the sh*t out of me :)))
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm No version of kubuntu plays mp3s out of the box
[15:50] <soshka> basically my net works but it is very VERY SLOW
[15:50] <Caf-Fiend> can i i do it with gui?
[15:50] <soshka> i have broadband 20mbit
[15:50] <bazhang> daniel, I have 64bit computer and 32 bit runs great :)
[15:50] <amen51> hi all. When I'm using firefox and a Flash is played, alsa get busy and other media players (e.g. mplayer) cannot accsess. This happens in Hardy. Is there a solution?
[15:51] <soshka> so i shouldnt wait 40 min to get into google
[15:51] <Caf-Fiend> ray_: i mean, how do i use sudo in gui
[15:51] <spsneo> i changed my home folder , now when i try to login i get the error This process is currently running setuid or setgid This is not a supported use of GTK+ what to do
[15:51] <mDemocritus> soshka: we need more info... what router, what service, etc
[15:51] <amenado> soshka-> you have a bit counter?
[15:51] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: one day you become kung fu master, and serve other noobs...
[15:51] <bazhang> Caf-Fiend, gksudo
[15:51] <noobuntu> all: i have issues with ubuntu update, can't upgrade
[15:51] <umyi> Slart: I think its too late to get the original dates back now, but in the future, is there a way to keep the original modified date?
[15:51] <Slart> umyi: yes.. I think moving files counts as modifying them... but the images probably have the date embedded in the image tag thingy
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Caf-Fiend gksudo
[15:51] <soshka> i have very little knowledge in what you all have said
[15:51] <Caf-Fiend> ta
[15:51] <smallfoot-> Saelynh, you are so cool, how can you have ipv6?
[15:51] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Would it play ogg out of the box?  If not, what do I do to get it to play ogg?  Btw, result of "lsb_release -a" is: No LSB modules are available. / Distributor ID: Ubuntu / Description:    Ubuntu 7.04 / Release:        7.04 / Codename:       feisty
[15:51] <soshka> is there a terminal command results i can post to help you help me
[15:51] <chev_chelios> kinda like me, i guess. i started noob, reached larvae, now i am an experienced fighter, one day praying to become kung fu master...
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Caf-Fiend gksudo nautilus                      but it is not forgiving if you make a mistake
[15:52] <umyi> Slart: ok
[15:52] <mDemocritus> soshka: what brand of device connects your computer to the internet, and who do you pay for your internet service?
[15:52] <umyi> :)
[15:52] <etronik> Jack_Sparrow: Don't think I have separate home, just backup tapes with bacula
[15:52] <noobuntu> chev_chelios: can you help me with upgrade to 8.04 ?
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm It should have played ogg and not mp3's
[15:52] <Saelynh> smallfoot-: I'm god
[15:52] <ray_> Caf-Fiend transfer them first to your homefolder, then cahnge yourself to 'sudo bash' and give your password, then copy or move them
[15:52] <smallfoot-> Saelynh, cool
[15:52] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: what is it?
[15:52] <bazhang> !ot
[15:52] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:52] <Caf-Fiend> ta
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik I strongly suggest you look into a sep /home partition
[15:52] <noobuntu> first, how to manually force update?
[15:52] <Starnestommy> Caf-Fiend: use sudo -i, not sudo bash
[15:53] <LucaBrasi> hi all ;)
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> ok
[15:53] <soshka> i have a motorolla broadband box thingy its virgin media (no problems with the company)
[15:53] <smallfoot-> noobuntu, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i think
[15:53] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: apt-get dist-update or dist-upgrade i think
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> is there any reason i can't just change permissions on the folder
[15:53] <mDemocritus> soshka: do you have other computers?
[15:53] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: Funny.  I brought over the autoconfig file from my previous installation, so I guess that's where it installed the mp3's.  But I didn't take anything away, unless installing mp3 support takes away ogg ability...
[15:53] <Caf-Fiend> so I can manipulate everyhitng in it
[15:53] <mDemocritus> soshka: use my nick in your message so my client highlights you please
[15:54] <amenado> soshka-> unless you are one heck of a big company, gettin a 20Mbit link to an ISP is mucho dolares in cost
[15:54] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: I tried looking in Adept for packages containing the word "ogg" but didn't know which one to install that would help me. :(
[15:54] <ray_> i still need a little help on this gallery2 and the ubuntu server, anyone?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm It should not have removed anything..  but it could have a conflict somewhere...
[15:54] <Infinito_> soshka, do you have other operation systems (i.e windows, freebsd, etc) that you could test to see if get slow internet on them too ? that would help discarding possible problems
[15:54] <mDemocritus> soshka: i've already missed a few of your messages
[15:54] <Caf-Fiend> i mean, it's only running PHP for a local page
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Gimme a sec to read up..
[15:54] <smallfoot-> amenado, i have 100 mbit
[15:54] <Aondo> anyone noticed that if you move the mouse slowly, the cursor wont move, only when you move the mouse at a certain speed, the cursor starts moving at that speed aswell. this is with relativly low mouse sense since i like that :D
[15:54] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: So I guess one place to start would be the mp3 packages and see if I can find what it conflicts with?
[15:54] <amenado> smallfoot--> right, up to your hub only
[15:54] <mDemocritus> Aondo do you have an optical or laser mouse?
[15:54] <Aondo> mDemocritus  opical
[15:54] <smallfoot-> amenado, nope
[15:54] <Aondo> optical
[15:54] <Chad2408m> amenado, everything works great now.  Thanks, the only thing is that my refresh rate is down to 56 and by just looking at the xcreen makes you want to throw up.  what was that code you had me type in again.  it let me change the resolution and I forgot to change it.
[15:55] <Slart> Aondo: in ubuntu? I know windows XP has some weird "increase mouse precision" setting but I haven't seen it in ubuntu yet
[15:55] <smallfoot-> amenado, my ISP offers 100 mbit/s down and 10 mbit/s up
[15:55] <mDemocritus> Aondo might be your mouse....
[15:55] <Aondo> mDemocritus  it is not. i'm sure.
[15:55] <smallfoot-> amenado, i downloaded ubuntu 8.04 in 7-0 megabyte/s
[15:55] <Aondo> Slart  yes ubuntu
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm sudo apt-get install amarok-xine libxine1 libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs libogg0 liboggflac++2c2 liboggflac3 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 vorbis-tools vorbisgain flac
[15:55]  * mDemocritus is jealous of smallfoot- and his wicked ISP
[15:55] <soshka> no only ubuntu
[15:55] <amenado> smallfoot--> you must live across from an ISP premises
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm From this page   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388537
[15:56] <soshka> ubutnu 8.0 something
[15:56] <smallfoot-> amenado, When I ran dist-upgrade, Ubuntu told me it would take some hours, it took <5 minutes
[15:56] <Slart> Aondo: I'm guessing it's your mouse that's doing it.. might be some kind of powersaving feature
[15:56] <soshka> last night the net was fine, perfectly fine now its all crazt
[15:56] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: its dist-upgrade i think, it ask me if i'm root
[15:56] <Aondo> Slart  it does not have that feature. it's a MX518
[15:56] <amenado> Chad2408m-> can you do this   gksu displayconfig-gtk   and configure your video card from there?
[15:56] <socr> during boo, my system asks me for a keyeing password TWICE . how come ?
[15:56] <mDemocritus> soshka: are you connected wirelessly or wired?
[15:56] <socr> boot
[15:56] <smallfoot-> amenado, its not so uncommon to have 100 mbit where i live, there are even some places with 1 gigabit, but its rare
[15:56] <soshka> wired
[15:56] <Aondo> Slart it all depends on the sense i set it to, either in gnome, or with xset m.
[15:57] <amen51> hi all, how to set alsa as the default sound driver in ubuntu hardy
[15:57] <smallfoot-> amenado, internet is fast in sweden, south-korea and japan, its only in USA where internet is sucks and 1970
[15:57] <mDemocritus> soshka: hop into a terminal for me
[15:57] <kwtm> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, will see which pkgs I'm missing. (Or be lazy and apt-get install them and let apt-get sort it all out.)
[15:57] <amenado> smallfoot--> where do you live?   you have fibre coming in to your premises?
[15:57] <Slart> Aondo: try checking out the assistive technology settings.. you might have hit a special key combo sometime and started something
[15:57] <Aondo> not sure how to solve this mouse sense stuff :P sounds like a bug in x mouse driver or something
[15:57] <soshka> yes
[15:57] <babolat> mDemocritus: System > Pref > Sound
[15:57] <thermoplyae> is there a way to remove the network indicator applet from the gnome toolbar?
[15:57] <chev_chelios> soshka: did you solve your internet problem?
[15:57] <mDemocritus> soshka: ping google.com
[15:57] <thermoplyae> everything else has a Remove From Panel option, but not it
[15:57] <mDemocritus> babolat: wrong nick? :D
[15:57] <smallfoot-> amenado, i live in sweden, in an appartment complex, it has fibre to the house, then cat5 to the appartments
[15:57] <amenado> smallfoot--> i believe you, if you do have fibres into the house,
[15:57] <Aondo> Slart  this is allways, exept when i set the mouse speed to a higher speed
[15:58] <mDemocritus> soshka: what's the time say?
[15:58] <Slart> thermoplyae: it isn't a panel object.. it'a a program running.. with an icon in the systray
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: are you there?
[15:58] <babolat> mDemocritus > sorry
[15:58] <Aondo> Slart  it is only when i want a slow mouse sense, which i usually do
[15:58] <mDemocritus> babolat np
[15:58] <bazhang> lets take the fibre chat to offtopic please
[15:58] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: here i am
[15:58] <Aondo> the working one is too high
[15:58] <Slart> thermoplyae: pkill network-manager.. or if it's called nm-applet or something
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: it asks me if i'm root
[15:58] <julle_> i am going to make an new installation of hardy and want to backup my stuff, what folders do i need to backup, home + etc folder or more folders ?
[15:58] <amenado> smallfoot--> okay that make sense, you swedish, japanese and koreans are making us live (merikans) in envy
[15:58] <Aondo> and the slow mouse sense is useless with this bug
[15:58] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: did you do it in console?
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: sudo -s or how was it to change to root?
[15:58] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: yes
[15:59] <Slart> Aondo: well.. I've never heard of it before.. but it might be a driver issue.. I just don't know
[15:59] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <Starnestommy> noobuntu: it's sudo -i
[15:59] <mDemocritus> noobuntu sudo -i if you want a root shell
[15:59] <chev_chelios> o rthat..
[15:59] <soshka> do i post results or
[15:59] <soshka> what am i looking for?
[15:59] <mDemocritus> much better than sudo su :D
[15:59] <Infinito_> Aondo,  you got a usb mouse? do you know your motherboard model ?
[15:59] <thermoplyae> slart: excellent
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Shoot them all and let the ogg gods sort it out
[15:59] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, you might also want to back up some things in var, depending on your setup
[15:59] <mDemocritus> soshka: look for the "time=" number
[15:59] <amen51> hi, how to set alsa as the default sound driver system-wide (e.g. for command line mplayer), I kno how to do it for gnome
[16:00] <mordof> where is the info kept for the machine? i know there's something somewhere that you'd echo out to get system info but i forget where
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> kwtm Might save you a dep problem later
[16:00] <mDemocritus> it says something like this right ?64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=16.6 ms
[16:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, If you have anyting in /opt, you might want to back that up as well
[16:00] <thermoplyae> slart: is it safe to take more drastic action to prevent it from showing up at startup, or does it actually handle the process of connecting to a wireless network?
[16:00] <soshka> 94.6 ms
[16:00] <chev_chelios> mordof: you mean in console or in x?
[16:00] <mordof> console
[16:00] <thermoplyae> well, 'handle' here meaning 'initiate'
[16:00] <mDemocritus> soshka: is that consistant?
[16:00] <chev_chelios> mordof: i think lspci
[16:00] <chev_chelios> lists all pci devices
[16:01] <chev_chelios> all devices
[16:01] <mDemocritus> soshka: and please include my nickname in your message
[16:01] <smallfoot-> amenado, the mother of the guy who owns one of the internet companies here are like 70 years old and have like 10 or 40 gbit/s connection lol
[16:01] <Slart> thermoplyae: I'm not really sure how much of the actual work it does.. or if its' just a gui for the configuration settings..
[16:01] <mordof> that's one of them.. how bout proc info, etc?
[16:01] <soshka> mDemocritus: ok
[16:01] <thermoplyae> slart: then there's only one way to find out :)  thanks again
[16:01] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please chat elsewhere thanks
[16:01] <Aondo> Infinito_  usb mouse yes. MX518. MSI K9N SLI Platinum motherboard
[16:01] <Slart> thermoplyae: indeed =) you're welcoem
[16:01] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: i did something, or better to say nothing. 0 upgrades
[16:01] <chev_chelios> i've got to go... bye people!
[16:01] <smallfoot-> bazhang, oh sorry
[16:01] <chev_chelios> noobuntu:
[16:02] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: ?
[16:02] <amenado> smallfoot--> yesh, but if she is talking to a friend somewhere in bolivia where its a dial up at 56kbps..umm..she'd had more fun..hehe
[16:02] <bazhang> !ot
[16:02] <ubot3`> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:02] <julle_> Sir_Fawnpug: Thank you ! yeah i do
 no its not
[16:02] <mDemocritus> soshka: does the time change much?
[16:02] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[16:02] <pablo> hi
[16:02] <Lr5> Is it normal that Ubuntu disables an irq and tells you to try using irqpoll option even if you have irqpoll in boot options? I have to try a couple of times to get it to boot (Ubuntu 8.04, fully updated)
[16:02] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: what are you using now> hardy or feisty? (7.10 or 8.04)
[16:02] <pablo> can somebody help me
[16:02] <soshka> 01.0 change
[16:02] <mDemocritus> !ask | pablo
[16:02] <ubot3`> pablo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:02] <Slart> !ask | pablo
[16:02] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: 7.10
[16:02] <pablo> i have a problem upgrading my ubuntu to hardy
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Aondo Those logitec mice have given me nothing but grief..
[16:03] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, is your home directory mounted on a seperate partition? If it's not, consider creating a seperate home partition.
[16:03] <smallfoot-> pablo, what problem?
[16:03] <ianliu_88> !foo | ianliu_88
[16:03] <smallfoot-> pablo, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <smallfoot-> !upgrade
[16:03] <ubot3`> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:03] <Aondo> Jack_Sparrow, what kind of trouble?
[16:03] <pablo> one sec
[16:03] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: and you want to upgrade to 8.04? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: if it doesn do, i dunno...
[16:03] <julle_> Sir_Fawnpug: yeah thats a good idea!
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Aondo everything from not working to working slow...  I wont use any mouse that need a driver ever again.. all generics for me.
[16:04] <Sir_Fawnpug> julle_, it helps things go a bit smoother in my opinion
[16:04] <chev_chelios> !upgrade | noobuntu
[16:04] <ubot3`> noobuntu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:04] <mDemocritus> soshka: you can hit ctrl-C to stop the pings
[16:04] <Aondo> Jack_Sparrow  hehe yea it's a plan for sure.
[16:04] <reflous> is there a better program to connect to wireless hosts than the builtin version?  The built-in is really slow in connecting
[16:04] <noobuntu> chev_cheliot: where can i see which version i'm using?
[16:04] <babolat> that's a good idea, Jack_Sparrow
[16:04] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: try that link, it should have the explanations.
[16:04] <pablo> this is the error
[16:04] <pablo> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[16:04] <pablo>  This can be caused by:
[16:04] <pablo>  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[16:04] <pablo>  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
[16:04] <FloodBot3> pablo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <pablo>  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
[16:04] <a7p> hi everyone, I am a bit confused about a removalrequest on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/vim-latexsuite/20060325-4.1
[16:04] <Infinito_> I've seen some mobos leading to usb mouse problems on linux/bsd, but I don't think that's your cause.
[16:04] <smallfoot-> reflous, you could try VNC or something, idk
[16:04] <Slart> !paste | pablo
[16:04] <ubot3`> pablo: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:04] <noobuntu> ubot3: thx, will look @ it
[16:04] <chev_chelios> noobuntu: help>about ubuntu
[16:04] <a7p> anone a tip where I can lookup further information?
[16:04] <Caf-Fiend> thankyou
[16:04] <Slart> pablo: you'll only get temporary banned if you paste stuff here
[16:05] <Caf-Fiend> PHP now working
[16:05] <chev_chelios> bye guys
[16:05] <reflous> smallfoot-, vnc doesn't connect to wireless though does it? it is just a remote desktop application right?
[16:05] <smallfoot-> reflous, yes its just remote desktop application
[16:05] <Armada> meh, I'll just throw away the partition and reinstall windows
[16:05] <mordof> was wondering what the command was in bash to list processor info, etc. i was informed lspci for pci devices but i'm not sure for the others for variants of it
[16:05] <Armada> not like anything important was on there
[16:05] <Armada> just games
[16:05] <soshka> mDemocritus : what else