[06:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1497 QA Signoff: Approved
[06:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1944 QA Signoff: Approved
[07:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1957 Currently building (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Failed to build (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles)
[07:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 QA Signoff: Approved
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Currently building (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakkety/qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src). Failed to build (
[07:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 QA Signoff: N/A
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1957 Generating diffs
[08:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Preparing packages
[08:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Currently building (yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src). Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakkety/qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/gsettings-qt, yakke
[08:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Pending binary packages (yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld)
[08:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Publishing packages
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Publish failed: Packaging diff requires ACK
[08:38] <pete-woods> willcooke: FYI, the indicator-network silo is rebuilt, and just needs a core dev again
[08:39] <jamesh> trainguards: could someone publish https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 for me?  It has a trivial packaging change that blocks me from doing it myself
[08:40] <willcooke> Thanks a lot pete-woods
[08:41] <Mirv> jamesh: done
[08:41] <jamesh> Mirv: thank you
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Publishing packages
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Currently building (yakkety/ciborium, yakkety/qtsensors-opensource-src, yakkety/qtubuntu). Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakkety/qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src). Failed to bu
[08:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Successfully built
[08:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Proposed pocket (yakkety/storage-framework). Release pocket (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/storage-framework)
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh marcustomlinson gary-wzl charles xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1791 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/storage-framework). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/account-plugins, yakkety/keeper, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/net-cpp). Successfully built (vivid/account-plugins, vivid/keeper, vivid/mcloud, vivid/net-cpp, vivid/signon-plugin-oauth2, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/account-plu
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Preparing packages
[09:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Dependency wait (yakkety/keeper). Proposed pocket (yakkety/storage-framework). Release pocket (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/keeper, xenial/keeper)
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakkety/qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/akonadi, yakkety/gsettings-qt, yakkety/m
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakkety/qtxmlpatterns-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/akonadi, yakkety/gsettings-qt, yakkety/maliit-framework, yakkety/qtgraphicalef
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit,
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1957 Successfully built
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu
[09:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1860 Diff missing (yakkety/ciborium, yakkety/gcin, yakkety/hime, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, yakkety/qtmultimedia-opensource-src, yakkety/qtpim-opensource-src, yakkety/qtscript-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsensors-opensource-src, yakkety/qtsvg-opensource-src, yakkety/qttools-opensource-src, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtwebkit-opensource-src, yakket
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1957 Pending binary packages (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src). Successfully built (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles)
[10:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubu
[10:12] <xavigarcia> trainguards: ping
[10:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Release pocket
[10:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh marcustomlinson gary-wzl charles xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1791 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/account-plugins, yakkety/keeper, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/net-cpp, yakkety/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/account-plugins, vivid/keeper, vivid/mcloud, vivid/net-cpp, vivid/signon-plugin-oauth2, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/account-plugins, xenial/keeper, xenial/mcloud, xenial/ne
[10:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1957 Successfully built
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1954 QA Signoff: Ready
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Dependency wait (yakkety/keeper). Release pocket (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/keeper, xenial/keeper)
[10:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit,
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1848 Preparing packages
[10:43] <Mirv> xavigarcia: just ask, no pings are needed
[10:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubun
[10:45] <xavigarcia> Mirv: okay, it's just to say that silo 68 with storage-framework has been published. So now we can also publish silo 1939, which contains "keeper" (backup service)
[10:47] <Mirv> xavigarcia: ok, trying, let's see.
[10:47] <xavigarcia> Mirv: great, thanks!
[10:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Publishing packages
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Publish failed: Dependency wait
[10:49] <xavigarcia> Mirv: I'm afraid we have a dependency issue for s390 on yakkety
[10:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Preparing packages
[10:53] <Mirv> xavigarcia: it's not an issue since the package was never in yakkety before
[10:54] <xavigarcia> Mirv: oh, okay
[10:55] <Mirv> xavigarcia: ok, it's now in stable overlay and in yakkety NEW queue. you will need archive admin (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members) to look at it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=
[10:56] <xavigarcia> Mirv: awesome, thanks!
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 NEW queue (yakkety/keeper). Release pocket (vivid/keeper, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/keeper, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/storage-framework)
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui
[11:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Pending binary packages (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld). Successfully built (yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1848 Pending binary packages
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Preparing packages
[11:18] <Mirv> xavigarcia: ok that was fast, it got in (to yakkety-proposed)
[11:20] <xavigarcia> Mirv: brilliant!
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Proposed pocket (yakkety/keeper). Release pocket (vivid/keeper, vivid/storage-framework, xenial/keeper, xenial/storage-framework, yakkety/storage-framework)
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[11:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1848 Successfully built
[11:50] <Mirv> ubuntu-qa: how's silo testing resources, any ETA on Saviq's silo 78 landing? I'd like to land qtdeclarative fixes before Final Beta Freeze on Monday, but it'd fail Unity 8 tests if the fix in that U8 silo is not landed
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Preparing packages
[11:54] <jibel> Mirv, we're short this week, it will likely land on monday
[11:55] <jibel> Mirv, what's your qtdeclarative silo?
[12:02] <Mirv> jibel: ok. my qtdeclarative silo is 1955, but it doesn not need QA itself as it's xenial + yakkety only
[12:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Pending binary packages (xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui
[12:04] <jibel> Mirv, you know we do test xenial desktop right?
[12:05] <Mirv> jibel: in a sense, I test on stable overlay desktop too, but are you also QAing now all silos on xenial desktop?
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[12:06] <jibel> Mirv, when time permits we do
[12:06] <jibel> or desktop specific landings
[12:07] <Mirv> jibel: ok, so bileto should be updated to not default to N/A on yakkety+xenial silos then?
[12:08] <Mirv> jibel: it's not desktop specific, but naturally could affect Unity 8 like all Qt uploads
[12:09] <jibel> Mirv, anyway, unity8 will land monday
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[12:12] <pete-woods> kenvandine: hey again! any chance of giving another look at the indicator-network silo from yesterday? (https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865)
[12:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Preparing packages
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Pending binary packages (vivid/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/w
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (vivid/history-service, xenial/history-service). Failed to build (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telepho
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1175 QA Signoff: Approved
[12:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xavigarcia, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1939 Release pocket
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (vivid/history-service). Failed to build (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (xenial/history-service). Successfully built (vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telep
[12:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[12:51] <popey> jibel: new unav for you :) https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1958
[13:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Successfully built
[13:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (vivid/history-service, xenial/history-service). Successfully built (vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/te
[13:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1944 Publishing packages
[13:15] <kenvandine> pete-woods, done
[13:15] <pete-woods> kenvandine: much appreciated! :)
[13:15] <kenvandine> pete-woods, np
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Publishing packages
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1175 Publishing packages
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scope-click)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1866 Chroot problem (yakkety/indicator-transfer-buteo). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/libqofono). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/address-book-app). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/libqofono, vivid/mediaplayer-app, vi
[13:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1794 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Ready to build (vivid/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, vivid/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles). Success
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-bluetooth, yakkety/indicator-keyboard, yakkety/indicator-power, yakkety/indicator-sound). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/indicator-network, yakkety/indicator-session). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-network, yakkety/indicator-display). Pending binary packages (vivid/libindicator, xenial
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1175 Proposed pocket (yakkety/address-book-app, yakkety/libqofono, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-meta). Release pocket (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/libqofono, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/ubuntu-touch-meta, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/libqofono, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-touch-meta)
[13:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/libertine)
[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/
[13:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1943 Bad merges (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings)
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Proposed pocket (yakkety/indicator-network). Release pocket (vivid/indicator-network, xenial/indicator-network)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1944 Proposed pocket (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Release pocket (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[13:48] <pete-woods> willcooke: ^ FYI - the indicator-network-silo has been published
[13:48] <willcooke> pete-woods, woot! thanks.  Does that mean I don't need to chase a core dev?
[13:48] <pete-woods> willcooke: correct
[13:48] <willcooke> super!   thanks pete-woods
[13:49]  * willcooke puts his feet up
[13:49] <pete-woods> willcooke: just need to wait for the packages to migrate into y now
[13:49] <pete-woods> :D
[13:49] <willcooke> sure
[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 QA Signoff: Required
[13:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity-system-compositor, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-syste
[13:59] <dobey> trainguards: can someone please delete ubuntu-app-launch from silo 72 PPA?
[14:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity-scope-click). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch)
[14:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service)
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[14:18] <dobey> tedg: ^^ can you delete ual packages from silo 72 please?
[14:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1954 QA Signoff: Approved
[14:22] <tedg> dobey: Yeah, give me a sec OTP
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity-scope-click). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch)
[14:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (vivid/history-service). Successfully built (vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/te
[14:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Preparing packages
[14:32] <cjwatson> remind me, what's the proper way to handle the case where my ticket has passed QA and been published, but yakkety autopkgtests fail so it can't quite be cleaned?  should I just push more stuff onto the existing ticket?
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Preparing packages
[14:35] <cjwatson> the fix will be test-only, and for the time being it's only actually needed for yakkety; ideally I'd rather not have to use more QA bandwidth
[14:35] <oSoMoN> bzoltan, silo 1954 has been approved by QA, can it please land?
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1943 Preparing packages
[14:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1943 yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings: Failed to commit https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/snapd-paths2. You must supply either a Commit Message on your MP, or a custom debian/changelog entry
[14:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[14:47] <dobey> cjwatson: force merge (finalize) the existing ticket and make a new one, i think.
[14:50] <cjwatson> ok, if that's kosher ... will be a little while since I want to reproduce the failure first
[14:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1943 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings)
[15:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (xenial/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (vivid/webbrowser-app, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit,
[15:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Preparing packages
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1175 Merging branches
[15:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Preparing packages
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Pending binary packages
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1866 Chroot problem (yakkety/indicator-transfer-buteo). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/address-book-app, yakkety/libqofono). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/libqofono, vivid/mediaplayer-app, vivid/sync-monitor, xenial/address-book-app, xe
[15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[15:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Failed to build (xenial/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/webbrowse
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Successfully built
[15:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/messaging-app)
[15:48] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-084/+build/10761494 be retried, please?
[15:49] <tedg> oSoMoN: on it
[15:49] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[15:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Preparing packages
[16:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[16:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity-system-compositor, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenia
[16:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (xenial/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/u
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1954 Publishing packages
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1821 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/webbrowser-app, yakk
[16:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/messaging-app)
[16:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[16:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1529 Abandoning ticket
[16:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Successfully built
[16:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1954 Proposed pocket (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Release pocket (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[17:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1944 Release pocket
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Preparing packages
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Preparing packages
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telepathy-ofono, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cjwatson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1878 Merging branches
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Currently building (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, xenial/libertine, yakkety/libertine)
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, xenial/libertine, yakkety/libertine)
[18:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[18:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, xenial/libertine, yakkety/libertine)
[18:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cjwatson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1959 Pending binary packages
[18:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- popey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1958 QA Signoff: Approved
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1865 Release pocket
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg seb128 pitti laney, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-bluetooth, yakkety/indicator-keyboard, yakkety/indicator-power, yakkety/indicator-sound). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/indicator-session). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-network, yakkety/indicator-display). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/indicator-network). Pending binary p
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telephony-service)
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, xenial/libertine, yakkety/libertine)
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Pending binary packages (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/libertine)
[19:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- cjwatson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1959 Successfully built
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telephony-service)
[20:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Successfully built
[20:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[21:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Preparing packages
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1886 Abandoning ticket
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1886 Preparing packages
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1886 yakkety/url-dispatcher: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~larryprice/url-dispatcher/appid-with-dots
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1897 Abandoning ticket
[21:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1897 Preparing packages
[21:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 yakkety/location-service: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~vicamo/location-service/gps-arm64
[21:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN Kaleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1873 Abandoning ticket
[21:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN Kaleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1873 Preparing packages
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1550 Abandoning ticket
[21:57] <mterry> what happened to my silo  :(
[21:57] <mterry> ah...  it got reassigned to a temp ppa
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1886 Ready to build
[22:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN Kaleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1873 Failed to build (vivid/webbrowser-app). Pending binary packages (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Uploading build (xenial/webbrowser-app)
[22:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Ready to build
[22:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[22:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1897 Failed to build (xenial/history-service, yakkety/history-service). Pending binary packages (vivid/history-service, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Ready to build (vivid/telepathy-qt, xenial/telepathy-qt, yakkety/telepathy-qt)
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[14:05] <charlie-tca> scott-work: running ubuntustudio 64 tests
[14:07] <charlie-tca> Waiting for desktop images again, so I seem to have time
[14:09] <scott-work> charlie-tca: i wanted to tell you thank you for all you are doing and have done recently for ubuntu studio
[14:09] <scott-work> the ubuntu studio team really hasn't been functioning for the past several months
[14:10] <charlie-tca> You are welcome. It's minor, when I can help, I try to.
[14:10] <charlie-tca> I know that issues trying to get the team working, sometimes it can be difficult when we are all volunteers.
[14:10] <scott-work> however, i think i feel a change in the wind, says i
[14:11] <scott-work> charlie-tca: i'm going to UDS and i really am going to try to make a case to mark/jono/whoever about getting a dev at least part time to help
[14:11] <charlie-tca> Good luck.
[14:11] <charlie-tca> Let's at least see if we can meet in person there. I will be there
[14:12] <scott-work> cool!  i need to start making a list of the people i want to see
[14:16] <charlie-tca> yup, it gets to be a bit of a pile up, real quick.
[19:41] <falktx> wow
[19:41] <falktx> my lightdm theme never made it into the repos??
[20:10] <scott-work> i'm guessing we don't need to retest the ubuntu studio alternate images
[20:10] <scott-work> this is based on the latest email about rebuilding (yet again) desktop images
[20:11] <charlie-tca> right
[20:11] <charlie-tca> I finished the studio 64bit image, and am now working on the 386 to finish those tests
[20:13] <scott-work> thank you again charlie-tca
[20:13] <charlie-tca> no problem


[00:08] <mib_95abugt7> hello
[00:08] <mib_95abugt7> can you give me an ETA for a package to be built in the main archive?
[00:09] <cody-somerville> mib_95abugt7, not without the name of the package
[00:10] <ScottK> My estimate is two days.
[00:10] <mib_95abugt7> cody-somerville: xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.6.1-1ubuntu1 is the package
[00:10] <ScottK> cody-somerville: We can give an estimate.  I just won't be very accurate.
[00:11] <mib_95abugt7> no problem, I just want to know if it'll be soon, or I'll have to wait up to tomorrow
[00:11] <mib_95abugt7> or maybe more
[00:11] <cody-somerville> we can make it sooner.
[00:11] <mib_95abugt7> that would be great
[00:11] <mib_95abugt7> I need the amd64 version, if it matters
[00:14] <Amaranth> mib_95abugt7: The buildd broke, dunno what the status is now
[00:14] <Turl> Amaranth: :/
[00:14] <cody-somerville> Amaranth, what do you mean?
[00:15] <Turl> what about xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.5.1-1ubuntu9? it might contain the fix I need
[00:15] <Amaranth>  <tjaalton> could a buildd admin kick yellow (amd64)? it's been stuck for a couple of days now.. https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4.4.3-0ubuntu1.2/+build/842557
[00:15] <Amaranth>  <tjaalton> Keybuk: could you have a look at yellow (the buildd). I'd really need to get mesa  et al built on amd64 to avoid bugs like bug 320525
[00:15] <Amaranth> sorry for the pings guys :/
[00:16] <cody-somerville> Amaranth, we have two amd64 buildds
[00:16] <cody-somerville> Is there a problem with crested as well?
[00:16] <Turl> Amaranth: that is exactly the bug I'm experiencing :p
[00:16] <Amaranth>  <max.b> The nice folks on #launchpad have unwedged yellow. However the build on crested looks to be stuck - judging by the previous buildlog it will be killed in another couple of hours by the "150 minutes with no activity" criterion. Is it worth asking someone to terminate it earlier, in view of the previously mentioned mesa/intel/amd64 breakage?
[00:16] <Amaranth> cody-somerville: yes :/
[00:17] <Amaranth> although it looks like they should both be going at this point so...
[00:17] <cody-somerville> So when it says "build started 19 minutes ago", its lying?
[00:18] <cody-somerville> (isn't being facetious)
[00:18] <Amaranth> cody-somerville: No, as those pastes show they should be working again by now
[00:18] <Amaranth> cody-somerville: But I think they are a bit behind
[00:18] <cody-somerville> Well, from what I can see, they only have 17 builds in the queue.
[00:19] <cody-somerville> the xserver-xorg-video-intel package should build in 3 hours or so if the buildds for amd64 are working
[00:19] <Amaranth> cody-somerville: how about mesa?
[00:19] <Turl> 3 hours? mhm, I'll have to test tomorrow I guess
[00:20] <cody-somerville> Amaranth, whats the source package name?
[00:20] <Amaranth> cody-somerville: mesa
[00:21] <cody-somerville> Amaranth, 3 hours as well
[00:21] <cody-somerville> (to start)
[00:21] <Amaranth> although I think mesa takes some time to build so...
[00:22] <Amaranth> I dunno, I've only done it once
[00:22] <Turl> are ubuntu.com & launchpad.net down, or is it my internet playing tricks with me?
[00:22] <cody-somerville> They do see slow
[00:22] <cody-somerville> (or launchpad does atleast)
[00:23] <Amaranth> yeah, launchpad is a little laggy for me as well
[00:23] <Turl> firefox throws "interrupted connection" on launchpad, and ubuntu.com keeps connecting, but won't show
[00:26] <Turl> btw, any possibility of including php-gtk on jaunty? it isn't packaged on debian...
[00:26] <directhex> no offence, but who would want to write gui apps in a hypertext parser?
[00:27] <Turl> me directhex. PHP isn't just an hypertext parser. It's a complete scripting language, just like python is
[00:28] <Turl> a guy did once a package, and was looking for sponsoring in debian, I contacted him once, and he said he was too busy to get sponsoring, but the package was done. Maybe you can include it? or should I talk with MOTUs?
[00:29] <directhex> i'm reasonably confident that the PHP Hypertext Preprocessor is primarily centered around hypertext, but perhaps i'm just an old cynic
[00:29] <Turl> directhex: php-cli exists for a reason, don't you think?
[00:29] <cody-somerville> Turl, upload the source package to revu
[00:29] <cody-somerville> Turl, I'll review it for you tomorrow if you'd like
[00:31] <Turl> cody-somerville: I'll mail this guy once again asking him for it, I'm not the packager nor I know much about packaging.
[00:31] <directhex> Turl, i just find it an immensely odd choice of language for non-hypertext tasks. php's strength lies in the ease with which you can inject a little intelligence into <html>
[00:31] <directhex> each to his own, of course
[00:32] <Turl> also, I need to get my jaunty working to upload it, I guess you use dput?
[00:32] <cody-somerville> yup
[00:32] <Turl> directhex: PHP's strength lies in it's ease of use. not on the ability to modify HTML
[00:33] <Turl> directhex: there surely is a lot of other langs to use for non-hypertext tasks, the same way you can use non-hypertext languages like c++, c, etc to build webpages
[00:34] <slangasek> except C and C++ programmers have the good sense not to use those languages for html processing. :)
[00:34]  * directhex shoves slangasek into cgi-bin
[00:35]  * slangasek opens a series of back doors
[00:36] <Turl> I don't want to start a flamewar :p the fact is, php does gtk, and it's quite good at it, although documentation lacks sometimes
[00:36] <directhex> and people call MY platform choices eccentric :x
[00:36] <cody-somerville> Amaranth, both amd64 buildds are working fine as far as I can tell
[00:36] <Turl> PHP even does GL graphics iirc
[00:37] <LaserJock> and you can write a kernel in python
[00:38] <directhex> LaserJock, you never tried out perl-linux? :)
[00:38] <cody-somerville> Turl, btw, there is no builds in the queue for amd64 buildds. You could build that package for yourself in your own ppa.
[00:40] <Turl> cody-somerville: If I knew how to use dput without a .changes :p
[00:40] <Turl> LaserJock: believe it or not, http://phpopengl.sourceforge.net/
[00:40] <cody-somerville> Turl, just create one
[00:41] <Turl> cody-somerville: I know really basic things about packaging, "just create one" is not enough for me to understand :p
[00:42] <cody-somerville> Unpack the source package and run debuild -S -sa inside OR Install a package called 'reprepro' and use the changestool to create a changefiles (see manfile for details).
[00:42] <Turl> now, I need to remember how I configured my .dput.cf for my ppa...
[00:42]  * Turl googles around a bit
[00:42] <Amaranth> Turl: apt-get -b source mesa
[00:43] <Amaranth> Turl: just build it locally
[00:43] <cody-somerville> or that
[00:43] <cody-somerville> Turl, Are you on Jaunty? just do dput ppa:<your lp login> <changesfile>
[00:43] <Turl> apt-get -b? didn't know that one
[00:43] <Turl> cody-somerville: currently, I'm on vista, as my Jaunty has no X
[00:44] <cody-somerville> Turl, I have an idea. Why not install Hardy or Intrepid? :)
[00:45] <Turl> cody-somerville: because I don't want to break my MBR again? I killed it once with dd, and I recovered everything but my valuable data :/
[00:45] <cody-somerville> Turl, backups?
[00:45] <Turl> also, I don't think the intrepid installer can resize ext4
[00:46]  * cody-somerville gives up.
[00:46] <cody-somerville> :]
[00:46] <Turl> cody-somerville: no money to get another disk to backup? :) if you pay for it, I'll backup and install intrepid
[00:47] <Turl> also, I found jaunty quite stable, despite the 2 or 3 lockups a day
[00:48] <Turl> Amaranth: do you know whether the "keyboard and mouse stop responding" bug is related to this one?
[00:48] <Turl> I cannot check the bug number now, launchpad won't open
[00:50] <Turl> well, I'll reboot and try to build the packages
[00:51] <Turl> really, thanks guys for helping :)
[01:36] <caimlas> anyone know if there's a fix for the kernel post-2.6.18 I/O latency/load issues in the pipeline yet?
[01:37] <Rocket2DMn> hey bryce , what is the "pet-bug" tag for?
[01:37] <bryce> heya Rocket2DMn
[01:37] <Rocket2DMn> i definitely lol-ed when i saw it
[01:37] <bryce> heh
[01:38] <Rocket2DMn> is that tag some sort of inside joke?
[01:38] <Rocket2DMn> or does it actually mean something
[01:39] <bryce> no, it was suggested by management for marking some long standing bugs that we'd like to get around to fixing
[01:39] <bryce> so we were asked to mark 10 or so
[01:39] <Rocket2DMn> ah, well, its fixed
[01:39] <Rocket2DMn> \o/
[01:39] <bryce> great :-)
[01:40] <Rocket2DMn> yeah and two days latear i got a sweet kernel oops
[01:40] <bryce> yeah I picked ones that looked like low hanging fruit we could clear up by jaunty
[01:41] <Rocket2DMn> cool, i hope we can push a lot of bug fixes through for jaunty in all departments
[01:41] <Rocket2DMn> tbh i was a little disappointed with intrepid
[01:42] <bryce> hey speaking of pushing lots of bug fixes, here's something I did up today for tracking that for X -- http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/totals.svg
[01:42] <Rocket2DMn> i like what i see between 1/22 and 1/23
[01:43] <Rocket2DMn> some good intel fixes huh
[01:44] <LaserJock> bryce: that's a rediculous amount of bugs, I feel for you dude
[01:45] <bryce> Rocket2DMn: partly, although mostly that was a bunch expiring on that day.  But we did put out the 2.6 driver which hopefully will resolve a lot of those anyway
[01:45] <bryce> LaserJock: heh thanks, yeah quite a load
[01:46] <pwnguin> are there really close to 500 wacom-tools bugs?
[01:46] <bryce> we're down from a total of around 2200 last fall
[01:46] <bryce> pwnguin: no, you're reading the colors wrong ;-)  I think you're looking at the lrm bugs
[01:46] <pwnguin> ah
[01:46] <pwnguin> surely you can do a better spectrum than that :P
[01:47] <bryce> the order of items int he key matches the order in the chart
[01:47] <pwnguin> except the chart goes up and the legend goes down
[01:47] <Rocket2DMn> man i hope we can nuke a bunch of those during the bug jam
[01:48] <bryce> Rocket2DMn: that'd be sweet
[01:48] <bryce> Rocket2DMn: the majority of these bugs need to be re-tested against jaunty, and the ones that have been tested need to go upstream
[01:49] <Rocket2DMn> i wonder what a graph organizing them by date would look like
[01:49] <Rocket2DMn> like a bar graph with a full month of bugs
[01:49] <Rocket2DMn> that is to say, each bar is the number of bugs reported that month
[01:49] <bryce> ah
[01:49] <pwnguin> im guessing huge spikes at release
[01:49] <bryce> more plots here:  http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Plots/
[01:50] <LaserJock> bryce: hmm, a whole lot of -intel bugs
[01:50] <bryce> yeah, from -beta up until a month or so post-release we do see a surge in bugs
[01:50] <bryce> LaserJock: yeah :-/
[01:51] <pwnguin> at least with wacom-tools, there's been more activity upstream recently
[01:51] <Rocket2DMn> haha yeah those 2 weeks after release are intense
[01:51] <Rocket2DMn> though i guess its not as bad as it looks
[01:52] <pwnguin> how many unassigned bugs do we have left?
[01:52] <bryce> otoh, around that time it tends to be easier to get people to test, so it can be easier to get old bugs marked off the list, if you can stay on top of the surge
[01:52] <pwnguin> 3 thousand?
[01:52] <Rocket2DMn> thats just way too many bugs, i wonder how many can just be wiped out for being old
[01:53] <bryce> Rocket2DMn: for X, not as many as you'd think unfortunately; we have pretty okay turnover of old bugs
[01:53] <bryce> most are simply incomplete waiting on users for more info
[01:54] <Rocket2DMn> yeah bryce , but how many follow up with the complete amount of information needed?
[01:54] <bryce> or, we've got the info and someone just needs to look and do some preliminary analysis
[01:54] <bryce> hmm, I'd say somewhere  between 10-25% follow up
[01:54] <bryce> the rest end up expiring after a few months
[01:55] <Rocket2DMn> thats about what i would expect, X is tough to deal with from a normal user's perspective.  Heck I have a decent understanding of whats going on and it scares me too
[01:55] <bryce> me too
[01:55] <bryce> ;-)
[01:55] <bryce> really it's the freeze bugs I hate; those are a b!tch to troubleshoot, and we've got a slew of them
[01:56] <bryce> crashes are tractable if we get a backtrace
[01:56] <Rocket2DMn> you mean when X just locks up w/out actually crashing?
[01:56] <bryce> right
[01:56] <bryce> those are the hardest bugs
[01:56] <Rocket2DMn> yeah
[01:57] <Rocket2DMn> it would be nice if i had more time to play with this stuff, but unfortunately, gotta pay the rent
[02:01] <bryce> pesky rent
[02:02] <mib_iehgz0> hi, I'm back
[02:03] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, yeah bryce , but hey, these days just glad to be employed
[02:03] <bryce> quite true
[02:04]  * Turl goes back and reuploads to his ppa
[02:43]  * calc is almost proud of his bug stats now
[02:43] <calc> 11 new and 1 confirmed, rest incomplete or triaged :)
[02:44] <cody-somerville> YOU TRIAGED ALL THE BUGS IN LAUNCHPAD?!?!
[02:44] <cody-somerville> :P
[02:44] <calc> still have 39 bugs to send upstream
[02:44] <calc> cody-somerville: all OOo bugs
[02:44] <cody-somerville> oh wow... still quite the accomplishment!
[02:44] <calc> yea :)
[02:45] <calc> it appears i have about 26 bugs to fix for jaunty, some are dupes i still need to merge though
[03:50] <calc> wth is with these PSA's telling you to unplug your cellphone charger?
[03:50] <calc> i checked mine with a meter and it pulls effectively 0 watts with nothing hooked up to it, 1 watt with a phone that is charged with the lcd off, and 2 watt with the phone charged but with the lcd on
[03:51] <calc> the commercial probably used more power than my charger does all day
[04:02] <ScottK> calc: Clearly you're in favor of global warming and would like to see the Earth destroyed.
[04:07] <kees> -love Al Gore
[04:10] <gQuigs> Looking for feedback on my feature, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/no-input-recovery
[04:28] <calc> ScottK: perhaps some cell phone chargers are defective?
[04:29] <calc> ScottK: all i know is i own a watt meter that i check my stuff with and saw that PSA so tested mine and it seemed to be bunk
[04:29] <ScottK> calc: I think it's much more likely that no one ever sat down and actually measured.
[04:29] <ScottK> Remember, it's not the truth that counts, but the truthiness.
[04:29] <calc> ScottK: hehe
[04:30] <ScottK> Unfortunately that wasn't a joke.
[04:30] <ScottK> That seems to be the prevailing wisdom these days.
[04:31] <calc> a better PSA would be to have people buy watt meters and check their stuff, but that wouldn't be as cool
[04:31] <calc> they cost < $20
[04:32] <calc> my computer draws a lower than expected amount of power as well ~ 100W idle (iirc)
[04:32] <calc> ~ 150W at full load
[04:33] <ScottK> Many years ago I was involved in US Navy warship combat system design and ship integration.
[04:33] <ScottK> Most of the electronics were water cooled.
[04:34] <RAOF> I suppose there's a good supply of the stuff, at least.
[04:34] <ScottK> They had X number of chillers to keep the cooling water at the right temperature.
[04:34] <LaserJock> calc: yeah, I would think that a watt meter would be the best tool
[04:34] <ScottK> They had always designed chill water requirements based on the spec values for how much heat each piece of equipment put out.
[04:35] <ScottK> They got to a point where for the next version it was going to break the bank and they'd have to do an expensive chill water system redesign.
[04:35] <ScottK> Someone suggested actual measurements first.
[04:36] <ScottK> So they went out with some fancy calorimeters to measure how much heat was actually being dumped.
[04:36] <ScottK> By the time they added it all up, it was WAY less than they'd been designing to (because all the spec values were worst case plus some margin).
[04:36] <ScottK> So the redesign got cancelled because it wasn't actually needed.
[04:37] <calc> heh
[04:37] <ScottK> RAOF: Actually having the right water was a bitch because the water had to be sufficiently pure to be non-conductive.
[04:37] <ScottK> So measuring helps.  Not enough people do it.
[04:37] <calc> yea 150W on my system i think is worst case I was running some cpu burn in program that uses it much more than generally anything else
[04:38] <pwnguin> distilled water isn't hard to come by...
[04:38] <RAOF> Ooh.  It was _immersed_ in water, rather than using water as heat conduction?  Owch.
[04:39] <ScottK> RAOF: Well that's how they got good heat transfer.
[04:39] <RAOF> And a really abiding interest in keeping the water pure, too!
[04:39] <ScottK> pwnguin: And keeping it pure was tough.  Even copper oxides from the pipes could be problematic.
[04:39] <ScottK> yeah.
[04:40] <pwnguin> ScottK: now that i think about it, warships are typically sitting on top of very very not pure water
[04:40] <ScottK> The chill water pipes were copper-nickel for shock resistance, which aren't so great for keeping the water that pure.
[04:40] <LaserJock> yeah, I have to have pure water for my laser or I get 25k Volts arcing
[04:40] <ScottK> ;-)
[04:40] <LaserJock> but I don't go through a lot so it's not that big of a pain
[04:40] <pwnguin> i didnt read the full history
[04:41] <pwnguin> i figured it was some dude who's like, vegstable oil cooling? try water!
[04:41] <lfaraone> superm1: What's the status of bug 261721 for Dell machines? I'm experiencing it in Intrepid with -updates on an XPS m1330, although brighness isn't a problem, it's that "fn+f3" (battery status) is stuck until I go to a VT.
[04:41] <pwnguin> my alma mater's nuclear plant uses water as radiation guard
[04:42] <pwnguin> they like to toss hair dryers in it to show how it's awesome and distilled and safe
[04:42] <LaserJock> hmm, we use an ohm-meter
[04:43] <johanbr> A former Swedish prime minister went for a swim in the cooling water of one nuclear reactor.
[04:43] <pwnguin> did he go on to found a school where mutants like himself could live in peace?
[04:44] <RAOF> What is the ionisation potential for water, anyway?
[04:44] <johanbr> He's still alive and looking normal. As normal as he did before, anyway. :)
[04:45] <pwnguin> RAOF: having no idea what the phrase means, im going to say 1, because people like to base things relative to water ;)
[04:45] <LaserJock> RAOF: about 12.6 eV
[04:45] <RAOF> pwnguin: I meant - at what voltage density does it become conductive.
[04:45] <johanbr> I'm going to guess that it's not that different from atomic hydrogen - 13.6 eV.
[04:46] <RAOF> "voltage density" might be a phrase I made up :)
[04:46] <pwnguin> 10.56 eV in water according to teh internets
[04:47] <LaserJock> hmm, NIST has ~ 20 determinations that say 12.6 eV
[04:48] <pwnguin> i defer to the scientist
[04:48] <LaserJock> well, I usually defer to NIST
[04:49] <LaserJock> I watched a presentation from a guy who spent 20 years trying to get another decimal place on the vibrations of the boron atom
[04:49] <LaserJock> those guys are super anal
[04:49] <johanbr> "boron atom" is a good setup for a joke, if nothing else :)
[04:49] <pwnguin> a guy came to my uni a while back talking about atomic clock design
[04:50] <LaserJock> johanbr: don't get me going on chemistry jokes ;-)
[04:59] <slangasek> calc: what sort of watt meter do you have?
[05:14] <slangasek> jelmer: hmmm, so does bug #320742 mean the existing repo is toast?
[05:15] <jelmer> slangasek, no, mainly that it's an easier problem to solve than bug 295416
[05:15] <jelmer> as there is no root moving involved (which is hard to get right)
[05:20] <calc> slangasek: kill a watt
[05:31] <slangasek> calc: ok - in the past I've seen clamp-on meters that measure inductively, but I don't think those were < $20. :)
[05:34] <calc> slangasek: there are some better ones that do logging as well but they are > $100
[05:35] <calc> this one just shows current usage
[05:35] <slangasek> ah, so it only measures instantaneous power?  Hmm, suboptimal
[05:36] <calc> slangasek: it can log usage over time but not log continous instantaneous power
[05:36] <calc> aiui some take a reading every 1s or 5s and log it for you to look at later
[05:39] <slangasek> but it doesn't take the area under the curve, so isn't a true measurement of energy use over time
[05:41] <calc> but assuming it doesn't do something really weird like spiking up for very short intervals you can get a good idea of what it is using, or am i missing something?
[05:43] <slangasek> calc: the power consumption of a computer isn't flat, so sampling the current could be fairly inaccurate
[05:44] <calc> well for something like a idle cell charger
[05:44] <slangasek> e.g., what if your hard drive is spun down every time it samples just by chance. :)
[05:44] <slangasek> right, for that it should work fine
[05:44] <calc> yes on my computer it jumps around quite a bit unless i am leaving it idle or full throttle
[05:45] <calc> slangasek: my original comment wrt the watt meter was that there was a PSA on tv telling you to unplug your not in use cell phone charger, and after testing mine it showed 0 watts being used, even with the cell phone plugged in it was only using 1 watt (it was already fully charged)
[05:46] <slangasek> sure, I saw that
[05:46] <calc> ok
[05:46] <slangasek> I was inquiring out of interest in power metering generally. :)
[05:46] <calc> oh ok
[05:46] <slangasek> though for the time being, I know where our power is going, and I don't need a watt meter to tell me to find a solution to save on heating
[05:47] <slangasek> stupid atypical winter weather
[05:47] <calc> its 64F here even at midnight
[05:47] <calc> it was around 80 this afternoon i think
[05:47] <slangasek> it's 37F here, even at noon ;P
[05:47] <calc> it seems to alternate here between freezing and 80F
[05:48] <LaserJock> yeah
[05:49] <calc> anyone else having trouble with debootstrap in jaunty?
[05:49] <slangasek> debootstrap /in/ jaunty, or debootstrap /of/ jaunty?
[05:49] <slangasek> (the answer, for me, is no in both cases because I haven't tried it lately :)
[05:49] <calc> ok
[05:49] <StevenK> slangasek: Shall I send you some excess heat, it's 37 degC here
[05:50] <slangasek> StevenK: please to be
[05:50] <calc> i'm running jaunty on my desktop and was trying to run deboostrap on it
[05:50] <slangasek> StevenK: ... making a wormhole, I'll install a turbine in the mouth and it'll be a perpetual motion machine
[05:52] <calc> doh i know what i did wrong, oops
[05:52] <calc> i forgot to resetup my /etc/hosts file
[05:54] <StevenK> slangasek: Haha
[08:56] <orogor> hi here, anyone online?
[08:57] <syockit> Not app development on Ubuntu, it says. Where do I go for one?
[08:57] <orogor> i get very frequent system freeze, would anyone have some hint on how to debug that , if i can t  network that computer with another ?
[09:02] <persia> syockit, Generally the advice is to go to a specific forum for the sort of thing you are developing, and once the app is done, then bring it to Ubuntu.
[09:02] <persia> syockit, So, if you were, for example, developing a GNOME app, you'd want to visit the GNOME channels.
[09:03] <persia> orogor, You may find that #ubuntu-bugs is a better place to ask for help understanding and documenting bugs.
[09:03] <syockit> Actually I wanted an example of packages with multi binaries
[09:03] <syockit> so I got myself pulseaudio
[09:03] <persia> syockit, Oh, for packaging discussion, #ubuntu-motu is the preferred forum.
[09:04] <BUGabundo> good morning
[09:04] <BUGabundo> persia: can you tell me where to find crimsun ?
[09:05] <persia> BUGabundo, /whois is probably the place to start.  Beyond that, I can't help you.
[09:11] <orogor> persia, well actually i had something in mind , there s a linux feature that allow to bootstrap from a first kernel before starting the new one and it s  different from an initrd
[09:11] <orogor> persia, would you remember how it s called ?
[09:12] <persia> orogor, I don't.  Maybe something related to kexec()?  Sorry, but that's fairly well outside my knowledge.
[09:14] <orogor> yes , kexec
[09:14] <orogor> persia, any plan in throwing kexec into gentoo , in order to debug kernel issues ?
[09:15] <orogor> alla blue scrreen from windows
[09:15] <orogor> ... anyhow i ll join the bugs channel and see if they can be of any help
[09:24] <BUGabundo> dtchen: ping
[09:29] <emgent> morning
[09:33] <BUGabundo> hi emgent
[09:33] <syockit> compiling!
[10:23] <orogor> persia, as far as i understand the bug you speak was solved about a year ago
[10:24] <orogor> so i souldnt  have this bug when runnign hardy
[12:57]  * ogra grumbles about dash's read not supporting -n or -s
[15:05] <superm1> lfaraone, you need to have the upgraded kernel.  whenever it's released to -updates you'll be fine
[15:05] <superm1> lfaraone, it's been in proposed since basically the week after intrepid launched
[15:15] <lfaraone> superm1: so I should just enable proposed and update?
[15:16] <superm1> lfaraone, you should grab the kernel from -proposed (and appropriate headers, meta, and LRM if necessary).  You don't need anything else out of proposed though
[15:17] <lfaraone> superm1: Thanks!
[15:27] <CruX|> hello all, I just updated my system to kbuntu 8.10, and i have problem with my keyboard. I set my keyboard rate with "xset r rate 200 70". All keys are working with exception of downarrow and leftarrow - wait delay is much bigger than 200 ms. What's wrong ? on kubuntu 8.04 it worked.
[15:33] <lfaraone> superm1: sorry, i'm a bit noobish, but what's the package name of the new kernel? I can't seem to see it even after enabling proposed (and pinning to updates)
[15:36] <ScottK> lfaraone: You should get it by installing the appropriate metapackage (e.g sudo apt-get install linux-generic (I think that's what it's called)) that'll pull in the new kernel packages.
[15:38] <BUGabundo> ScottK mine is still on -4
[15:38] <BUGabundo> I had to manually choose -5
[15:40] <logari81> I think this one:
[15:40] <logari81> * Drop 102_dont_vblank.patch, since the new drm code in the kernel fixes the bugs that it worked around.
[15:40] <logari81> in mesa update of today destroyed this picture:
[15:40] <logari81> http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1466/screenshotfn6.png
[15:40] <logari81> for my ati X700
[15:40] <logari81> now googleearth with composite flickers like in intrepid and e.g. cant be projected on the cube
[15:40] <logari81> I hope this is the right channel to mention that
[15:41] <ScottK> logari81: Probably better on #ubuntu-kernel
[15:41] <ScottK> Even better, file a bug.
[15:42] <logari81> ScottK: ok thnx
[15:56] <lfaraone> Has the location of UDSJaunty+1 been announced yet?
[15:57] <jpds> lfaraone: No.
[15:57]  * lfaraone hopes for something east-coast, there was no way he could make it to the googleplex.
[15:58] <jpds> lfaraone: Seeing as it changes US->Europe, it'll probably be in Europe.
[16:07] <cjwatson> ArneGoetje: I noticed that the translation focus for Ubuntu was still listed as intrepid, and changed it to jaunty. I think that makes sense at this point; otherwise shout.
[16:26]  * ScottK notes to directhex a mono NMU sitting in Debian incoming and wonders if we want it?
[16:27] <directhex> ScottK, it's a ~no change rebuild
[16:27] <ScottK> OK, so not relvant to us then.   Thanks.
[16:27] <directhex> ScottK, now, we want the version it's an nmu from, but we either need to have dh 7.1 in jaunty first, or i need to make a merge patch which reverts some changes
[16:28] <directhex> and i don't think i heard a final decision r.e. dh7.1
[16:36] <lfaraone> superm1: Hm, I upgraded to the new kernel, but now my nvidia kernel module won't start.
[16:40] <directhex> ScottK, if you make a call on mono s/sync/merge/ or dh7.1, let me know :p
[16:49] <superm1> lfaraone, yeah that's why you need to pull in all the headers too
[16:50] <lfaraone> superm1: ok, what's the package name I want again?
[16:50] <superm1> lfaraone, there's a metapackage to go with it.  probably linux-headers or similar
[17:11] <ArneGoetje> cjwatson: where was it listed?
[17:38] <lfaraone> superm1: new kernel, and now we have _intermittent_ problems with fnup-fdown, sometimes it reads one push as two
[17:39] <lfaraone> superm1: however, my pwrstatus thing is fixed. thanks!
[17:55] <nixternal> x-session-manager[3989]: WARNING: Detected that screensaver has left the bus
[17:55] <nixternal> hahahaha
[17:55] <nixternal> oops, wrong channel
[18:16] <superm1> lfaraone, that's a different unrelated bug
[18:17] <lfaraone> superm1: ah, kk.
[18:28] <Ape3000> What does "dfsg" mean?
[18:28] <ion_> Debian free software guidelines IIRC
[18:28] <jpds> Ape3000: Debian Free Software Guidelines.
[18:29] <jpds> Ape3000: See: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[18:31] <lfaraone> Any main sponsors about?
[18:33] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: done, package is in ppa at https://edge.launchpad.net/~lfaraone/+archive/ppa
[18:39] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: and debdiff was uploaded to the bug
[18:51] <cody-somerville> lfaraone, It looks like you simply add the flag to build libabiword but don't actually have it in its own binary package.
[19:00] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: yes, from what I understood an additional binary package wasn't needed.
[19:00] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: libabiword is _part_ of abiword, you can't mix versions and expect them to work. (and if they do, it's accidental)
[19:00] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: if you'd prefer, I can split it off.
[19:14] <cody-somerville> lfaraone, libabiword is not required for abiword to work if enabled, correct?
[19:15] <cody-somerville> lfaraone, and your changelog says that you did create a new binary package btw
[19:25] <Ramblurr> has anyone run into a bug where upgrading to the new nvidia 180 drivers removes the /usr/lib/libGL.so lib?
[19:25] <lfaraone> cody-somerville: correct. will fix.
[19:34] <tjaalton> Ramblurr: there's a bug about it
[19:35] <Ramblurr> ah ok
[19:38] <cjwatson> ArneGoetje: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[19:53] <calc> anyone happen to know the rsync command line to use to sync up an iso
[19:53] <calc> its normally on iso.qa but nothing is being tested atm so doesn't show it
[19:55] <calc> ah found it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage
[20:01] <calc> skipping non-regular file "ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso"
[20:01] <calc> hmm weird
[20:01] <cjwatson> it's a symlink - you need to sync the one from .pool
[20:02] <cjwatson> rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/.pool/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso or some such
[20:02] <calc> ah i see
[20:02] <cjwatson> this is all transparent via HTTP; the rsync confusion is unfortunate but not really avoidable
[20:03] <cjwatson> alternatively I think there's an rsync option to follow symlinks
[20:03] <cjwatson> -L by the looks of things
[20:03] <cjwatson> yeah, probably better to use -L
[20:03] <cjwatson> (rather than .pool)
[20:03] <calc> ok thanks for the help :)
[20:04] <calc> apparently my dd of ubuntu iso from cd was a bit different from the one on the server
[20:04] <cjwatson> mm, I certainly wouldn't put money on that giving bit-identical results
[20:04] <calc> but not by much, heh
[20:05] <cjwatson> probably just junk at start and/or end
[20:06] <calc> yea
[20:28] <doctormo> Question, according to the ubuntu-devel mailing list, I'm a "non-developer"
[20:29] <doctormo> Despite being in all manners and motives a developer. Do I take it that there is some special flag you need to be a developer according to the mailing list?
[20:29] <ScottK> You need to be a MOTU or core-dev
[20:30] <ScottK> Developer means Ubuntu dev, not generic developer.
[20:30] <ScottK> Some others get white listed in, but I'm not sure how that works.
[20:30] <doctormo> ScottK: I see
[20:31] <ScottK> There is ubuntu-devel-discuss that anyone can post to unmoderated.
[20:31] <doctormo> Yes
[20:31] <doctormo> Great, I'll have to join the boys club to post to certain mailing lists.
[20:32] <ScottK> You can post.  It just has to go through moderation.
[20:33] <doctormo> Perhaps the wording needs changing? 'non-developer' or even non ubuntu developer seems odd when your me, an ubuntu developer who just happens to operate on research instead of motu.
[20:37] <cjwatson> I'm happy to add contributing developers to the whitelist if they post sensibly (and I remember when processing the moderation queue)
[20:37] <cjwatson> (cf. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers)
[20:38] <cjwatson> "Ubuntu Developer" is a formal term though, corresponding to Launchpad teams
[20:38] <cjwatson> perhaps we should extend the auto-whitelist to cover ubuntu-universe-contributors
[20:38] <cody-somerville> I'm in favour of that.
[20:39] <cjwatson> err, universe-contributors I mean
[20:39]  * Laney prepares the spam
[20:41] <cjwatson> I've filed an RT request to that effect
[20:45] <cjwatson> I've also linkified the text "Ubuntu developers" on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[20:46] <doctormo> thanks cjwatson
[20:46] <cjwatson> and clarified the text at the end
[21:21] <ebroder> Is a FTBFS on hppa going to keep a backport from being accepted?
[23:54] <Laney> What is Ubuntu's position on GFDL docs w/invariant sections?


[06:09] <dpm> good morning all
[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[07:17] <nigelb> Hello dholbach, dpm
[07:18] <dpm> hey nigelb, morning!
[07:21] <nigelb> Good Morning
[07:40] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[07:46] <nigelb> dholbach: How're you doing?
[07:47] <dholbach> good good - how about yourself?
[08:35] <nigelb> dholbach: Having a tiring day, otherwise ok :)
[08:45]  * dholbach hugs nigelb
[08:52]  * nigelb hugs dholbach back
[15:00] <dpm> jono, I'll be 2 mins for the team call
[15:03] <jono> dpm, np
[15:04] <jono> mhall119, call?
[16:00] <jcastro> elfy: IS is aware of your two tickets and are in progress
[16:07] <elfy> jcastro: cheers :)
[16:07] <elfy> almost said awesome ... :p
[16:07] <popey> \o/ Awesome!
[16:07] <elfy> :)
[16:34] <balloons> jcastro, why does discourse use referrer links in emails? grr
[16:35] <popey> because they send via sendgrid?
[16:35] <marcoceppi> yeah, we're (me, because I'm lazy) is using sendgrid
[16:36] <marcoceppi> I'm working on a real email server so you can just reply via email
[16:37] <balloons> ohh marcoceppi that would be cool.. it's not a big deal, I stripped the ref link.. just annoying to see more and more of them. It's disconcerting from a user experience perspective. only a few years ago only people trying to scam you nested links like that.. now google does it on every search result (if you let them)
[16:41] <popey> heheh
[16:41] <popey> hippie ㋛
[17:40] <jcastro> <-- lunch
[17:44] <jcastro> <-- lunch
[17:44] <jcastro> whoops, wrong channel
[17:45] <pleia2> I just thought you were very excited about lunch
[18:11] <jcastro> I am
[18:11] <jcastro> pleia2: ask me why!
[18:11] <pleia2> jcastro, why were you so excited about lunch?
[18:11] <jcastro> because I had like 7 tacos
[18:11] <pleia2> haha
[18:12] <jcastro> jono: this mcaffee video
[18:12] <jcastro> lol why does he have guns
[20:06] <elfy> jcastro: you got any idea where unity-lens-shopping has gone in saucy -  want to try and head a thread off before it degenerates ...
[20:30] <aquarius> marcoceppi, I'm not seeing the webapps stuff at all. I went looking for the code, but the build progress compresses and minifies everything so I don't know whether it's not there or I just can't find it ;)
[20:33] <marcoceppi> aquarius: it's still there http://i.imgur.com/FEnjvDH.png
[20:33] <marcoceppi> just really hard to read :)
[20:33] <aquarius> nice
[20:33] <aquarius> let me see if I can see that :)
[20:35] <aquarius> er!
[20:36] <aquarius> at the point at which the script runs, external.getUnityObject doesn't exist
[20:36] <aquarius> once page load is complete, it *does* exist.
[20:36] <aquarius> so that's certainly a bug in my code
[20:37] <aquarius> clearly we need to wait for both Ember to complete (which we are doing) but also wait for the Unity extension to inject its object into window.external !
[20:37] <aquarius> hrm. I do not know what to wait for, though.
[20:37] <aquarius> if I were a miserable sinner I'd just do a setTimeout.
[20:37] <aquarius> also, this suggests that it works for marcoceppi because his computer is faster than mine ;)
[20:42] <aquarius> I'd ask the webapps team but they're too busy to help :(
[21:02] <marcoceppi> aquarius: it's good to know all this horsepower is good for something :P
[21:05] <aquarius> marcoceppi, so... I am not sre what to do, now :(
[21:06] <marcoceppi> aquarius: well it doesn't need to be fixed right now. During tomorrow's maint window I can easily exclude the patch from the "build" process
[21:06] <marcoceppi> if that is indeed what is causing the problem with opera
[21:06]  * marcoceppi still needs to verify that
[21:07] <aquarius> marcoceppi, I'd be surprised if that's what's causing the problem (the script does check that its stuff is there rather than blowing up, which is why it just quietly doesn't work rather than exploding on everyone's browser)
[21:07] <aquarius> but maybe I'm wrong and I did cause it, in which case certainly do exclude it :)
[21:08] <marcoceppi> aquarius: right, I haven't seen any bugs in upstream yet regarding this and I feel like people would be quite vocal. Once I unlazy myself and install opera I can do a bit more testing
[21:09] <aquarius> trivial although sinful fix: inside document.on("discourse:ready"), wrap the contents in setTimeout(function() { ... contents ... }, 5000) so it just hangs about for five seconds and *then* kicks off the webapps stuff, which should be enough time to convince the unity extension to do its stuff ;)
[21:10] <marcoceppi> I feel so dirty.
[23:15] <jcastro> marcoceppi: heh so it really was aquarius
[23:15]  * jcastro pats aquarius on the back
[23:15] <jcastro> no worries man, this is why we prototype
[23:16] <aquarius> have we actually established that yet? :)
[23:16] <jcastro> good to know you guys found the problem tho
[23:16] <jcastro> well, with no popey around who else is to blame?
[23:16] <aquarius> hey! marcoceppi is *guessing* that it's my patch which breaks it ;)
[23:16] <jcastro> heh
[23:16] <aquarius> I am yet to be convinced :)
[23:16] <jcastro> the icon you picked looks nice in the launcher btw
[23:16] <aquarius> jcastro, oh, the webapps integration works for you, does it?
[23:17] <jcastro> it's going to be hot action when it works
[23:17] <jcastro> no, it doesn't
[23:17] <aquarius> heh :)
[23:17] <jcastro> I mean, it detected and installed
[23:17] <jcastro> no notifications or stuff yet
[23:17] <aquarius> ah, right. I don't even get that.
[23:17] <jcastro> oh ok
[23:17] <aquarius> because when it tries to do its stuff, the Unity integration hasn't kicked in. For me, at least.
[23:26] <marcoceppi> aquarius: http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/site-doesnt-display-in-opera-and-other-browsers/426/15?u=marcoceppi however, when I moved back to just trunk, opera still breaks
[23:26] <marcoceppi> I'm inclined to say opera is just a PITA and move on
[23:27] <marcoceppi> in any event, I just added if(external && external.getUnityObject(1)) {
[23:27] <marcoceppi> pretty sure that should satisfy that
[23:31] <aquarius> marcoceppi, I get a blank white screen in iOS Safari, too
[23:32] <aquarius> which might be considered more important tha Opera. :)
[23:32] <aquarius> (although Opera is important, man :))
[23:33] <aquarius> that aside -- the external fix won't help, I don't think. The problem is not that we're not checking for external properly, it's that *when that code runs* on my machine at least, external.getUnityObject doesn't exist because the Unity chrome extension hasn't created it *yet*. Once the page is all loaded and everything, that object *does* exist.
[23:33] <aquarius> I don't know why the code doesn't work for jcastro, though.
[23:34] <marcoceppi> aquarius: so would it be better to just wait for on document load rather than ember as it appears ember blocks document from laoding?
[23:34] <aquarius> marcoceppi, the problem is that that *requires* Ember to block document load.
[23:34] <aquarius> and I am not sure that it always does.
[23:35] <aquarius> and if docuemnt load fires *before* Ember.Application.ready, then we'll try and do the integration stuff before Ember properly exists, and thus epic fail.
[23:35] <aquarius> What we want to do is wait for *both* Ember.Application.ready *and* unity-creates-its-object
[23:36] <aquarius> but there isn't an event for the second one ;(