[04:06] <Warbo> nba: If you use "sudo" then it shouldn't be. Also, the standard desktop folder is called "Desktop" not "desktop" (Linux is case sensitive)
[04:06] <v1per> Grise1, really, all it takes is an examination of how to change /etc/fstab
[04:07] <nba> warbo: i wrote this way: sudo chmod 777 <filename>
[04:07] <nba> warbo: is that the way it should be?
[04:07] <FirstStrike> Grise1: check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[04:07] <Warbo> nba: "sudo chmod 777 /home/nba/desktop/03.asin" < like that?
[04:07] <Warbo> AA! wait
[04:07] <v1per> Grise1, ok, quick summary then... after changing /etc/fstab , you need to "sudo mount /media/<name>"
[04:07] <Grise1> I just want to "permanently" get access to FAT32 at hda1 so that I can abandon Win98 on this box and use Ubuntu, and have access to all the files every time I boot without having to go through mount processes.  Sorry, I have been at this for some days.
[04:07] <nagyv> Where could I get an automake>=1.6.1? apt-get gives me version 1.4-p6
[04:07] <Warbo> "sudo chmod 777 /home/nba/Desktop/03.asin" < like that?
[04:07] <Mewshi> -_-
[04:08] <nba> ok, i'll try again
[04:08] <v1per> Grise1, what is the name under media... you're barely telling me anything!
[04:08] <nba> uhh, the desktop maybe, thats the problem
[04:08] <nba> i wrote it in lowercase
[04:08] <nba> ok i'll try again, thnaks
[04:08] <FirstStrike> Grise1: go to the step " How to mount Windows partitions (FAT) on boot-up, and allow all users to read/write "
[04:08] <FirstStrike> on the page i linked too
[04:08] <FirstStrike> it's really easy
[04:08] <FirstStrike> when you're adding the lines in the fstab use tab instead of the space key
[04:08] <Warbo> nba: You don't have to type the full name if you are in the same folder, so you could do "cd Desktop" then "sudo chmod 777 03.asin"
[04:09] <Mewshi> dammit >.<
[04:09] <v1per> yes, listen to FirstStrike if it's easier
[04:09] <nba> i see, ok
[04:09] <v1per> although i've basically given the solution twice already
[04:09] <Grise1> v1per:  right now, under disks manager its media/hda1 (after I typed in the sudo command you originally gave me)
[04:09] <nba> thanks for the tip
[04:09] <Warbo> !cli
[04:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:09] <Mewshi> ok
[04:09] <FirstStrike> I think Grise1 is just refusing to read.
[04:09] <tyler_d> cannot unmount my ipod even though it is not connected?
[04:10] <Mewshi> are there any good cli dvd/cd burning softwares?
[04:10] <FirstStrike> tyler_d: connect it and try unmounting it
[04:10] <Grise1> I will read off line-- too hard to type and read at the same time.  Tks folks...
[04:10] <FirstStrike> or try a -f
[04:10] <v1per> Grisel: in fstab, the first two columns.... for example "/dev/hda1   /media/windows"
[04:10] <q_x> bgrwvfdbvgts
[04:10] <v1per> i mean Grise1*  sry
[04:10] <Warbo> Oops, I just ran Compiz without it's window decorator mode. I hope I can switch to a terminal
[04:10] <Grise1> vlper:  I'm following
[04:10] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: could this be why I am getting a mounting error on my dvd burner?
[04:10] <BlueEagle> Do you guys recomend twinview or xinerama on a nVidia card?
[04:10] <FirstStrike> possibly
[04:10] <Mewshi> why am i being ignored?
[04:10] <rubyphyte> Is it as safe to run a server on the desktop as it is on the server version of ubuntu?
[04:11] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: how do I force it to unmount?
[04:11] <FirstStrike> sometimes if you disconnect something usb without unmounting it the os thinks it's still there
[04:11] <v1per> Grise1, ok, in my example, afterwards you would do "sudo mount /media/windows"
[04:11] <FirstStrike> sudo umount -f /blah/blah
[04:11] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: ahhhh... k I will try that
[04:11] <BlueEagle> mewshi: You're not. But if you want to send /msg then you need to register with nickserv. It's a spam prevention measure.
[04:11] <v1per> Grise1, at this point you could access it
[04:11] <Mewshi> no, i mean
[04:11] <Grise1> ThankQ bye
[04:11] <FirstStrike> v1per: after he's done editing the fstab all he has to do is sudo mount -a
[04:11] <FirstStrike> and it should work
[04:11] <q_x> adada
[04:11] <BlueEagle> mewshi: also if people don't answer your questions then perhaps noone knows the solution. :)
[04:11] <Mewshi> i've been asking if there are any cli cd/dvd burning programs, and no one's answering
[04:11] <v1per> FirstStrike, w/e
[04:12] <nba> warbo: what's the command for display of files
[04:12] <Warbo> Since they are part of Xorg I am correct in assuming that DRI drivers support AIGLX, right?
[04:12] <Warbo> nba: "ls"
[04:12] <v1per> FirstStrike, same difference
[04:12] <Warbo> nba: Check out the link ubotu gave when I typed "!cli" above
[04:12] <Mewshi> hello?
[04:12] <v1per> lol, FirstStrike ... and he's gone
[04:12] <nba> warbo: but it says 'no such file or directory'
[04:12] <BlueEagle> mewshi: It's called cdrecord
[04:12] <v1per> LOL
[04:13] <nba> warbo: but it still there, the file
[04:13] <FirstStrike> yea
[04:13] <Warbo> Mewshi: I don't know of any, and apparently neither does anyone else. However, we didn't want to say "no" in case there is one that we do not know about
[04:13] <v1per> i might go crazy
[04:13] <nba> warbo: i just want to delete it
[04:13] <BlueEagle> mewshi: and I'm reading log to check on your question. What do you mean "back to dapper"? Have you upgraded to edgy by mistake?
[04:13] <FirstStrike> Mewshi: type 'cdrecord' in the console
[04:13] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: not found when I try umount?
[04:13] <Warbo> nba: That command lets anyone delete it, so try deleting it normally now
[04:13] <Mewshi> it wasn't a mistake really... i wanted to see it... and now i'm fucked >.<
[04:14] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: but in my media dir typed it the same as it shows
[04:14] <Warbo> !language > Mewshi
[04:14] <Mewshi> Sorry >.<
[04:14] <soop> anyone know anything about bind?
[04:14] <FirstStrike> tyler_d: you connected it? try mounting it and unmounting it
[04:14] <Mewshi> now i'm screwed
[04:14] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: mounted fine
[04:14] <digitallotus> soop, what about it?
[04:14] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: won't unmount
[04:14] <FirstStrike> that's why it's important to do your research before you install Mewshi
[04:14] <FirstStrike> read the forums next time.
[04:14] <FirstStrike> there's warnings all over the place
[04:15] <BlueEagle> mewshi: No worries. However reverting from edgy to dapper isn't very easy. I'd recomend re-installing dapper from a cd. (I might be wrong tho and there might be a script to revert but I don't think there is)
[04:15] <FirstStrike> there's no script
[04:15] <Mewshi> hm
[04:15] <Noah0504> What the easiest way to upgrade to Edgy to test it out?
[04:15] <Warbo> Anyone know what "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual <insert obscure string here>" means? I get loads of them when using a GL app (in AIGLX)
[04:15] <soop> ditallotus: when i run named, it loads my localhost zone then doesn't load any other zones
[04:15] <FirstStrike> you have to do it all manually
[04:15] <soop> digtallotus: this is my named.conf http://pastebin.ca/135585
[04:15] <Mewshi> All i need to do is make it stop having problems with openoffice >.<
[04:15] <FirstStrike> tyler_d: hmm..reboot and try again. i've had that issue with my pda in the past.
[04:15] <Mewshi> that's the only problem right now >.<
[04:15] <tyler_d> ok
[04:15] <Warbo> Mewshi: I use Abiword, if it's any help
[04:16] <soop> digitallotus: when i run named, it loads my localhost zone then doesn't load any other zones
[04:16] <Mewshi> -_-
[04:16] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: ty I will be back if there are further issues
[04:16] <FirstStrike> ok
[04:16] <Mewshi> it's going nuts because it can't find all the dependencies for oo.o
[04:16] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: quick question, how do I resume a torrent after closing the program?
[04:16] <FirstStrike> which program?
[04:16] <Mau> hi people! how can i discover my ip number?
[04:16] <Warbo> tyler_d: Double click the .torrent file again
[04:16] <Noah0504> Mau: ipchicken.com works.
[04:16] <ax> so, there is no alsaconf in dapper that i can find, how does one set up their soundcard?
[04:16] <Number_5> mau ifconfig
[04:16] <FirstStrike> http://whatismyip.com
[04:16] <FirstStrike> :P
[04:16] <Number_5> lol
[04:17] <vedder> this is the kernel i am using linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 i need the headers to compile  should i have to download this Linux kernel headers 2.6.15 or this pack is enough Linux Kernel Headers
[04:17] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: dirty little one.... only 3 tabs.. stable though
[04:17] <nixternal> hey guys!   anyone in here know how to install MythTV?   I have someone messaging me that needs help installing it..if you can help let me know please...thank you
[04:17] <digitallotus> soop, any errors in the log? also, does /var/named/primary/soop.ca.hosts exist?
[04:17] <Mau> Number_5, is there anyproblem in type this command? not dungerous?
[04:17] <phaedrus44> what is the repo for the w32codecs?
[04:17] <FirstStrike> uhh well some of the clients will automatically restart them when you start the client back up tyler
[04:17] <BlueEagle> ax:  alsactl and or alsamixer?
[04:17] <FirstStrike> but otherwise just open the torrent and save it to the same directory as before
[04:17] <tyler_d> FirstStrike: k, brb
[04:17] <FirstStrike> and it'll resume it
[04:17] <BlueEagle> ax: What do you mean by "set up"?
[04:17] <tyler_d> FirstStrike ty
[04:18] <bit_doidao> Mau, only ifconfig shows the network interfaces  :)
[04:18] <soop> digital: no errors,  ... loades zone localhost/in spits out its erial number then the next line in the log is "running"
[04:18] <_priest> anyone know where to find the source for skey?
[04:18] <soop> its like it's ignoring the soop.ca section of my zone file completely
[04:18] <Number_5> mau that'll just show your lan ip if you want your wan ip you should use ipchicken.com
[04:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell phaedrus44 about easysource
[04:18] <_priest> i can only find pam_skey i need the actual binary for one time passwords
[04:18] <vedder> is not my lucky day....:(
[04:18] <vedder> by and thank for the help!
[04:18] <vedder> bye*
[04:18] <Mau> thanks
[04:18] <ax> BlueEagle: well, sometimes there are special settings for soundcards, alsaconf used to set those up for me
[04:18] <ax> i have a delta66 and it worked great before i installed ubuntu
[04:19] <FirstStrike> you guys should all have http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper# bookmarked.
[04:19] <eegore> ] /quit
[04:19] <Bogaurd> I'm having some trouble with CUPS - i've installed and got cups working correctly, i can print test pages from the web interface, but when i try to print something using 'lpr' or via samba, nothing happens... the job goes into the 'lpq' queue, but doesnt show up in the CUPS joblist, and doesnt print. Any ideas?
[04:19] <nba> warbo: it still not working, i can't delete the file still
[04:20] <nba> warbo: it says '03.ASIN' : No such file or directory
[04:20] <Number_5> Bogaurd: i had this problem and it was because i didn't set up both the cups server and the client i believe...been a while
[04:21] <Bogaurd> Number_5: hmm.
[04:21] <soop> digitallotus: no errors,  ... loades zone localhost/in spits out its erial number then the next line in the log is "running"
[04:21] <nba> warbo: it says cannot access '03.ASIN' : No such file or directory
[04:21] <Bogaurd> Number_5: so you reckon i should install cupsys-client or something like that?
[04:21] <foo> I just formatted this drive but the numbers don't make sense: df -h says: /dev/sda1             187G  129M  178G   1% /mnt/sda ... any ideas ? 129M used on a 187G drive doesn't equal 178G .. .and this drive is a 200GB drive.
[04:21] <nba> maybe im not doing it right
[04:21] <digitallotus> soop, interesting... normally it would give a message about loading the zone or an error
[04:22] <Bogaurd> foo: ext2/3 reserves some of the drive space
[04:22] <tyler_d> after reboot, cannot mount my dvd-rw drive... error posted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d20838
[04:22] <Bogaurd> i do believe
[04:22] <foo> Bogaurd: That's what I thought... so, it makes sense that it reserves 20G drive space/ HM
[04:22] <soop> digtallotus: well exactly, it's just supposed to work, i've retyped the conf file a few times now hoping for a typo but nothing
[04:23] <Necho> is there a newb channel?
[04:23] <tylere> Is sound recording broken in 6.06? I can hear the input, I have the mixer setup properly, but I cannot get audacity to record. I've googled this and seems lots of other people are having the same issue
[04:23] <nagyv> tyler_d: did you tried to mount it manually?
[04:23] <Bogaurd> foo: well, it's not reserving 20GB... a 200gb is not really 200GB.
[04:24] <foo> Bogaurd: Ok, so my numbers sound good ? I did the cfdisk and mkfs.ext3 correctly?
[04:24] <Number_5> tyler_d: in fstab is /dev/hdc type iso9660?
[04:24] <Bogaurd> foo: if you assume that 1kb is 1000 bytes, then yes, it is 200gb. 1kb is really 1024 bytes though
[04:24] <BlueEagle> foo: df isn't exact by any means.
[04:24] <Sethwm2> Hello
[04:24] <Number_5> tyler_d: or udf?
[04:24] <BlueEagle> thedcm: Why?
[04:24] <Bogaurd> let me tell you chat my 200gb drive comes up as
[04:24] <thedcm> BlueEagle: hi
[04:24] <foo> BlueEagle: alright, but you think my numbers sound somewhat like they should be?
[04:25] <Bogaurd> foo: mine comes up as 186GB, unformatted
[04:25] <Sethwm2> Hello I was wondering if I install Ubuntu it will automaticly reconize my RAID drives??
[04:25] <foo> Bogaurd: ok, so ext3 is reserving 8GB ,,,right?
[04:25] <Bogaurd> i think ext2/3 reserves about 5% by default... so ~178gb sounds about right to me
[04:25] <_priest> Sethwm2: hardware or software raid
[04:25] <Sethwm2> hardware
[04:26] <Sethwm2> Two 160 GB
[04:26] <_priest> Sethwm2: _true_ hardware?
[04:26] <Sethwm2> SATA
[04:26] <Sethwm2> Yes
[04:26] <Bogaurd> Number_5: I have cupsys-client already installed :(
[04:26] <Sethwm2> Onboard
[04:26] <Sethwm2> Onboard RAID Utility
[04:26] <Number_5> Bogaurd: are you trying to print over a network or local?
[04:26] <_priest> Sethwm2: well when i say true i mean non cheap raid controller card
[04:26] <_priest> Sethwm2: 3ware?
[04:26] <thedcm> AND YOUR GAY HOMOSEXUAL ANAL WARFARE
[04:26] <thedcm> YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE NEGROES
[04:26] <nixternal> !kops
[04:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[04:27] <Sethwm2> On Board
[04:27] <nixternal> lol
[04:27] <_priest> Sethwm2: oh so like promise?
[04:27] <nalioth> dammit
[04:27] <Sethwm2> Yeah
[04:27] <Sethwm2> SIS RAID
[04:27] <_priest> Sethwm2: yea it probably wont pick it up as a raid
[04:27] <GNULinuxGeek>  For some reason Konqueror has broken and re-installing does not fix it.  S, I would like to install all of KDE 3.5.4 on my Dapper box.  Found a number of sites that have the stable version packages.  Do I have to download all of them and install one at a time?
[04:27] <Hobbsee> nalioth: kline material?
[04:27] <_priest> Sethwm2: it'll see it as 2 drives
[04:27] <nba> help pls; "how to have permission on files"
[04:27] <Sethwm2> How do I tell it to use both??
[04:27] <nalioth> Hobbsee: just ban 'im please
[04:27] <nalioth> brb
[04:27] <_priest> Sethwm2: you need to use software raid
[04:27] <Number_5> GNULinuxGeek: did you try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:27] <Sethwm2> How ??
[04:27] <_priest> Sethwm2: so disable the raid array in the bios on the controller
[04:28] <SurfnKid> anyone know when I suspend, why i cant get my session back? it just freezes, 2 or 3 times suspend/restore and then whack, it freezes
[04:28] <_priest> Sethwm2: using mdadm
[04:28] <Sethwm2> ok
[04:28] <imbrandon> GNULinuxGeek: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[04:28] <_priest> Sethwm2: ive never done a raid setup through ubuntu instaaller though
[04:28] <Sethwm2> is it an install option in the install??
[04:28] <Sethwm2> O
[04:28] <_priest> Sethwm2: so you may want to search for software raid + debian
[04:28] <tyler_d> Number_5: udf?
[04:28] <_priest> Sethwm2: sorry ive only setup raid through fedora installs
[04:28] <soop> digitallotus: i don't know what it was but it seems to be loading it now
[04:28] <nba> or how to "unlock" LOCKED files
[04:28] <RawSewage> is there an flv to mpg/avi converter for K/Ubuntu
[04:28] <Number_5> tyler_d: should mount a dvd then...or is it a cdrom you are trying to mount?
[04:29] <Sethwm2> The only reasion I came here
[04:29] <Sethwm2> is becuase
[04:29] <Sethwm2> I could not find it on Google
[04:29] <GNULinuxGeek> imBrandon did look there and can't seem to get it loaded.  I originally load ubuntu but then added KDE.  That might be part of the problem.
[04:29] <_priest> Sethwm2: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_software_raid
[04:29] <_priest> Sethwm2: that should get you started
[04:29] <Number_5> tyler_d: try change it to udf,iso9660
[04:29] <tyler_d> Number_5: dvd
[04:29] <Ricesteam> How do i fix the Azureus warning pop-ups from not closing?
[04:29] <RawSewage> nm   http://jadmadi.net/2006/06/22/ubuntu-howto-converting-flv-to-mpg/
[04:29] <Number_5> tyler_d: oh well its probably not that then
[04:29] <imbrandon> GNULinuxGeek: please dont cross post, we were helping you in #kubuntu
[04:29] <nba> anybody home?
[04:29] <_priest> Sethwm2: but mdadm is going to be the tool you need for software raid
[04:30] <Sethwm2> Why can it not do hardware??
[04:30] <sethk> it can do hardware
[04:30] <_priest> Sethwm2: b/c you are using a cheap raid controller
[04:30] <sethk> of course
[04:30] <Sethwm2> How?
[04:30] <Necho> Does anyone have experience with getting wireless devices working under ubuntu?
[04:30] <sethk> but real hardware raid looks exactly like a single disk to the o/s
[04:30] <Sethwm2> SiS is popular..
[04:30] <_priest> sethk: he's using a promise raid controller
[04:30] <Jbirk> Ever heard of Slackware?
[04:30] <_priest> it'll just see 2 disks
[04:30] <Sethwm2> Not Promis
[04:30] <Sethwm2> SIS
[04:30] <KenSentMe> Ricesteam: i heard today that it's a known bug, i don't know if theres a solution, but people are working on it
[04:30] <sethk> _priest, right, that isn't really raid.  :)
[04:30] <_priest> oh SIS
[04:31] <_priest> Sethwm2: it'll still see 2 disks :)
[04:31] <sethk> Sethwm2, that's just an ide controller, not really raid
[04:31] <_priest> sethk: its not raid at all :)
[04:31] <Sethwm2> The motherboard has a RAID controler on it
[04:31] <sethk> _priest, yes, I forget what loophole allows them to put raid on the box
[04:31] <pike_> Necho, first thing type uname -r in a terminal then install the linux-restricted-modules-kernelversion you have
[04:31] <Sethwm2> And it is set to RAID 0
[04:31] <Ricesteam> thanks
[04:31] <Necho> I have a Linksys WUSB54G wireless USB adapter, I'm almost certain that it should work, but I don't know how to get it working.
[04:31] <_priest> sethk: ah i haven't heard of a solid way for them to do it with those cheap controllers
[04:32] <_priest> sethk: plus i think software raid is a much better option these days
[04:32] <sethk> _priest, about software raid I completely disagree
[04:32] <sethk> _priest, software raid is basically useless
[04:32] <Sethwm2> I am a noob at Ubuntu and Linux...
[04:32] <Sethwm2> SO I need it to do it in the Installer
[04:32] <Sethwm2> GUI
[04:32] <_priest> sethk: how do you figure?
[04:32] <johnnyg> am I in the wrong plcae to ask about importing .eml files gotten from YahooMail export into Thunderbird?
[04:33] <sethk> _priest, because the most common problems that raid can handle are not handled with software raid.
[04:33] <nba> does anybody know "how to access locked files" coz i want to move it
[04:33] <nba> but i don't have permission it says
[04:33] <sethk> _priest, plus, once you have a failure, what then?  How do you ever get back into a redundant situation?
[04:33] <_priest> sethk: ive never come across a problem that software raid couldnt handle
[04:33] <_priest> sethk: you just take the bad disk out and put a new one in
[04:33] <pike_> nba, preface the command with sudo
[04:33] <_priest> sethk: mdadm will take care of the rest
[04:33] <mainer> try sudo <command> or sudo su
[04:33] <Necho> Hey pike_, thanks for replying but I'm not sure what that means? I'm a newb with Linux. I'm not on Ubuntu right now, I uninstalled it a while back because I was having the same problem a few months ago, but I'm trying to have another go at it...
[04:34] <Sethwm2> How do I install mdadm??
[04:34] <sethk> _priest, the machine has to be completely inert for the software to image a new drive.
[04:34] <nba> pike_ i did that but it says "cannot access...: no such file or directory
[04:34] <Sethwm2> How do I turn it on
[04:34] <Sethwm2> ?
[04:34] <_priest> sethk: when you boot the system with a new non faulty drive mdadm will recover it before the system starts
[04:34] <pike_> Necho, copy and paste this into a terminal dont type it: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:34] <sethk> nba, use sudo
[04:34] <_priest> sethk: thats the whole purpose of it
[04:34] <sethk> _priest, yes, of course, but that isn't real raid
[04:35] <Number_5> Sethwm2: sudo apt-get install mdadm
[04:35] <sethk> _priest, the whole point of raid is that you eliminate the down time
[04:35] <nba> sethk: i just did but nothing work
[04:35] <_priest> sethk: what downtime?
[04:35] <nba> still can't access
[04:35] <Sethwm2> OIC
[04:35] <Sethwm2> Thanks
[04:35] <sethk> nba, then it didn't fail because of permissions
[04:35] <_priest> sethk: in a raid 1 setup it'll mirror while the system is running normally
[04:35] <sethk> _priest, the down time when you restart the machine and, as you noted, the software images the new drive
[04:35] <nba> sethk: what shud i do then
[04:35] <Number_5> nba: what file is it...it's probably in use
[04:35] <Sethwm2> Thanks
[04:35] <Sethwm2> Taking notes
[04:36] <_priest> sethk: well yea other than using hot swappable drives
[04:36] <sethk> nba, start by giving us the exact error
[04:36] <nba> Number_5: it's in my Desktop
[04:36] <pike_> Necho, or open synaptic (the add remove programs) and search for the package restricted-modules you want the one that matches your kernel version (which you get by typing uname -r in a terminal and hitting enter)
[04:36] <Number_5> nba: do you have it open somewhere?
[04:36] <sethk> _priest, right, hot swappable is what raid is all about, or at least what it used to be about before somebody came up with "software raid"
[04:36] <_priest> sethk: but if you are just a 1 person band nothing beats software raid :)
[04:36] <Necho> I'm in Windows right now, see I can't get on the internet and thus IRC at all with this comp without wireless, that's the biggest problem. If there are directions I can print them out or something, and see if they work, but remember I won't be online so if it needs to download anything... it can't. Is what I'm asking possible?
[04:36] <Sethwm2> So I install linux on one of the drives then sudo apt-get install mdadm and it will do it all by itself??
[04:36] <nba> sethk: i type Desktop
[04:36] <_priest> sethk: well yea true hardware raid is superior
[04:36] <ciscosurfer> Edgy's expected release date?
[04:37] <sethk> _priest, ok, I'll agree, in many situations osftware raid is useful.
[04:37] <_priest> sethk: but people want more for their dollar
[04:37] <Necho> I can transfer whateve rI need to another drive or soemthing, of course
[04:37] <Lane>  /join #mepis
[04:37] <nba> sethk: type sudo chmod 777 03. ASIN
[04:37] <sethk> _priest, depends on what you actually need, whether the cost is justified for your situation.
[04:37] <_priest> sethk: the only places i see hardware raid absolutely necessary would be like trading companies
[04:37] <_priest> banks
[04:37] <_priest> etc
[04:37] <sethk> nba, what is that?  type sudo chmod 777 03.  ASIN?
[04:38] <sethk> _priest, yes, that's the stuff I typically deal with.
[04:38] <nba> sethk:  error says "cannot access '03.ASIN': No such file or directory
[04:38] <_priest> sethk: but you have to admit most mom and pop shops that using linux will go with software raid
[04:38] <_priest> sethk: that still makes up 40% of the linux market
[04:38] <nba> sethk:  03. ASIN is the file name i want to move
[04:38] <sethk> nba, probably the file is not in the current directory.  try using the full path name
[04:38] <Number_5> nba: does it have a space in it?
[04:39] <nba> yes Number_5
[04:39] <sethk> nba, also, to handle what Number_5 is asking, use tab completion
[04:39] <Number_5> nba: proceed spaces with \
[04:39] <sethk> nba, that will get the backslash where it is needed
[04:39] <Number_5> nba sethk is right use tab for autocomplete
[04:39] <nba> ok i'll try it guys
[04:40] <sethk> Number_5, typing backslash is right also, but for noobs the tab completion is sometimes easier to deal with  :)
[04:40] <bkudria> can the ubuntu dapper livecd resize ntfs partitions? how?
[04:40] <Number_5> exactly
[04:40] <Number_5> sethk: i caught onto that ...i'm new here hehe
[04:40] <Necho> I should have a spare NIC around here, so I'll try getting this working tomorrow hopefully that will make it easier...
[04:40] <Jbirk> How can I get rid of the Ubuntu splash screen?
[04:40] <Jbirk> I want to see linux boot
[04:40] <chatterman> man this wireless configuration is driving nuts, makes me want to go back to windows :(
[04:41] <Jbirk> as in plain text flying by
[04:41] <Jbirk> Chatterman, I had that problem on a dell notebook
[04:41] <Jbirk> My solution was to replace my wireless card with a different one
[04:41] <chatterman> same with compaq
[04:41] <Jbirk> I picked one up on ebay for $7 and $8 to ship it
[04:41] <Jbirk> works great
[04:42] <chatterman> ah on a laptop ?
[04:42] <sethk> laptop nics aren't worth much as all the new laptops have the wireless built in.
[04:42] <Necho> What are the best wireless adapters for Linux?
[04:43] <sethk> Necho, best reference for that is the kernel configuration.  show the list of supported NICs.  pick one of those.
[04:43] <chatterman> ya i think mine is built in , not sure
[04:43] <Jbirk> I am using an Intel PRO 2200
[04:43] <Jbirk> It is just working great
[04:43] <Jbirk> It plugged and played
[04:43] <Number_5> sethk: do you use the default kernel?
[04:44] <dasGewitter> I need help/information about burning an ISO image
[04:44] <chatterman> i dont want windows anymore, im sick of firewall and antiviruses , that drives me nuts too
[04:44] <nba> sethk: if i use the full path name, does it look like this: /home/nba/Desktop/03. Asin
[04:44] <sethk> Number_5, I rebuild the kernel using the one from kernel.org.  but I work on device drivers, so I'm not a typical user in that respect.
[04:44] <AshDragonScale> Just to let everyone know I found my answer about the Usplash screen in Dapper! Thanks for all your help
[04:44] <Jbirk> Is apt-get upgrade safe?
[04:45] <Number_5> nba: /home/nba/Desktop/03.\ ASIN
[04:45] <sethk> nba, if it is in /home/nba/Desktop, it might.  You keep typing it differently.  last time you type ASIN, this time you typed Asin, and the space, I'm not sure about.
[04:45] <Number_5> nba case sensative
[04:45] <ciscosurfer> Does any know when the expected release date for Edgy is?
[04:45] <justin_> What is the differences between Dapper and the previous versions?, is there a website with the changes listed?
[04:45] <SurfnKid> any 3D rendering software for linux?
[04:45] <sethk> nba, that's why I suggested that you type in the first letter or two and press tab.  let the shell complete the name for you.
[04:45] <Number_5> SurfnKid: blender
[04:45] <sethk> nba, that's less typing, and is guaranteed to be in the correct format for a shell command.
[04:45] <justin_> Surfnkid, I am not sure - but I have heard that poser 5 works under Linux (if that is modelling I have no idea:))
[04:45] <nba> sethk:  ok i'll try it again
[04:45] <croach_> hi
[04:45] <SurfnKid> justin_, yeah
[04:45] <justin_> Well works in Linux - under WINE.
[04:46] <SurfnKid> Number_5, is it in ubuntu?
[04:46] <Jbirk> How do I find out my Ubuntu distro?
[04:46] <sethk> nba, I'm not being critical, just extolling the benefits of tab completion.
[04:46] <Number_5> SurfnKid: sudo apt-get install blender
[04:46] <ciscosurfer> With 810 people here, someone's got to know the answer to this ...
[04:46] <DShepherd> Jbirk: cat /etc/issue.net is one to do it
[04:46] <SurfnKid> Number_5, what kind of stuff can u do with it
[04:46] <chatterman> is there any version of linux that aint a pain with wireless or is it all the same ?
[04:46] <Number_5> SurfnKid: if you know 3dsmax and Maya...bout the same
[04:47] <Jbirk> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[04:47] <Jbirk> HOw do I update to the latest?
[04:47] <SurfnKid> Number_5, i know maya a little but 3dsmax not much, i think ill try that :)
[04:47] <dasGewitter> what program should I use to burn an ISO image?
[04:47] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: you running gnome?
[04:47] <dasGewitter> yes
[04:48] <Number_5> chatterman: wireless can be easy in linux....I would help but I followed a guide on the forums and I didn't commit it to memory...
[04:48] <ciscosurfer> Jbirk: in a terminal, type: lsb_release -s -c
[04:48] <SonicvanaJr> Does anyone know the command to restart xserver ?
[04:48] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: right click if and click write ISO.. or osmethinglike that.
[04:48] <Number_5> SonicvanaJr: to restart ctrl alt backspace
[04:48] <chatterman> its cool , im just a bit out of patience
[04:48] <cef> Got a P4 board w/SiS 661FX/SiS 964 (north/south) combo running Dapper (6.06.1), and "reboot"/Ctrl-Alt-Del (calls reboot) doesn't work. Machine "halt"s and powers off ok, but "reboot" goes through shutdown and hangs (have to power off/reset via button). Get a "Restarting system" msg on the screen - that's it. Tried 23-386 and 25-386/686 kernels, no diff. Reset button works. Any suggestions?
[04:48] <Number_5> SonicvanaJr: that'll restart X
[04:48] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: write to disc.. that's it
[04:48] <SonicvanaJr> Hmm then I guess dual monitors with ati dosen't work
[04:48] <SonicvanaJr> :\
[04:49] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: got that?
[04:49] <cef> erm, 26-386/686 even
[04:49] <dasGewitter> right click the file?
[04:49] <croach_> i just installed xgl+compiz in ubuntu 6.06 and now when im trying to start the xgl-gnome it says "Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,removing from list!....
[04:49] <DShepherd> dasGewitter: right click the iso file and choose the option 'Write to Disc'
[04:49] <dasGewitter> ah
[04:50] <ciscosurfer> Hi Everybody!  When does Edgy come out??
[04:50] <Number_5> sethk: I want to get into writing device drivers someday heh
[04:50] <DShepherd> ciscosurfer: hopefully in october
[04:50] <DShepherd> !edgy
[04:50] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[04:50] <dasGewitter> give me one second
[04:51] <ciscosurfer> !schedule
[04:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:51] <DShepherd> !schedule > ciscosurfer
[04:52] <dasGewitter> I downloaded a .rar file that apparently is supposed to be burned to an iso
[04:52] <justin_> !schedule
[04:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[04:53] <Number_5> dasGewitter: did you unrar it?
[04:53] <nba> sethk:  ok guys i'm in
[04:54] <Number_5> nba get it moved?
[04:54] <nba> sethk:  yes, its unlocked already
[04:54] <nba> sethk:  so i can moved it now?
[04:54] <hewhocutsdown> really quick general IRC question; if I'm told 'You need to be identified to join that channel' when I /join, what do I do?
[04:54] <dasGewitter> well
[04:54] <dasGewitter> I told it to extract it in its folder
[04:54] <dasGewitter> After it did so, it said all the folders were empty
[04:55] <dasGewitter> and in any case, it contains no .iso file
[04:55] <AshDragonScale> hewhocutsdown: identify to the network before you /join
[04:55] <pike_> hewhocutsdown, /msg nickserv register password  then whenever you sign back in /msg nickserv identify password
[04:55] <Number_5> dasGewitter: at the command line type sudo rar x filename.rar        change filename to the actual file name
[04:56] <dasGewitter> shouldn't it be sudo rar -x filename.rar?
[04:56] <Number_5> dasGewitter: nah x
[04:56] <shawnna> Hello!  Where can I go to find out how to get x-chat and yahoo messenger together?
[04:56] <pike_> hewhocutsdown, type /msg nickserv help  for assistance
[04:57] <nba> sethk:  yes! it worked, thanks a lot!
[04:57] <hewhocutsdown> let me try that
[04:57] <nba> sethk:  ur a great help. have a nice day guys!
[04:57] <dasGewitter> hm
[04:57] <adam__> I have the terminal open, what is the command to install wine?
[04:57] <Number_5> nba: cya
[04:58] <AshDragonScale> shawnna: try Gaim... that is what I use. IRC, Yahoo, AIM, MSN, ICQ all of it...
[04:58] <Number_5> adam__: sudo apt-get wine
[04:58] <dasGewitter> it says rar command not found
[04:58] <Number_5> sorry
[04:58] <TheGame> hey
[04:58] <Number_5> adam__: sorry sudo apt-get install wine
[04:58] <dasGewitter> I would I installed a rar extracting program though
[04:58] <TheGame> whats the program to install the splash screen
[04:58] <TheGame> it sits in system settings
[04:58] <pike_> adam__, apt-cache search whatever  find the package you want and sudo apt-get install packagename
[04:58] <dasGewitter> let me check my package manager
[04:58] <shawnna> AshDragonScale: Thanks, I will.
[04:58] <adam__> thanks Number_5, pike_
[04:58] <TheGame> anybody
[04:58] <Comrade-Sergei> rememeber that BSOD sceensaver in hoary and breezy, well is it in the repos somewheres?
[04:58] <hewhocutsdown> it worked, thanks muchly
[04:58] <Number_5> dasGewitter: it maybe in the universe or multiverse repos
[04:59] <dasGewitter> ah
[04:59] <dasGewitter> the archiver for rar
[04:59] <dasGewitter> listed rar under the package manager?
[04:59] <dasGewitter> ....it's shareware...they actually want me to register this?
[05:00] <adam__> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.  E:  Package wine has no installation candidate.   <-- can anyone further explain this and help?
[05:01] <pike_> adam__, wine is in the universe repository you need to enable it either in synaptic or by sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and removing the # comment in front of any # deb hhtp: and saving changes
[05:01] <pike_> adam__, then sudo apt-get update
[05:01] <jturek> hey any mutt users in here?
[05:01] <Number_5> jturek: i've used it a bit
[05:02] <adam__> hmmm... how do I find synaptic via Gnome?
[05:02] <harisund> Hello! Is there any software that will allow me to read (and perhaps write) into my ext3 partition when I am running Windows XP?
[05:02] <jturek> Number_5: do you know how to skip cert validation during imaps
[05:02] <pike_> adam__, dunno i dont have gnome
[05:02] <Number_5> adam__: system....administration
[05:02] <Number_5> jturek: sorry no
[05:02] <adam__> Number_5:  thank you
[05:02] <whitt> hello guys
[05:02] <whitt> whats up
[05:02] <whitt> can anyone help me get my webcam working?
[05:02] <whitt> plz
[05:02] <whitt> and thankyou
[05:03] <david_> my son deleted the applications button on his comp, how do i get it back?
[05:03] <Comrade-Sergei> rememeber that BSOD sceensaver in hoary and breezy, well is it in the repos somewheres?
[05:03] <DShepherd> harisund: yes there is..
[05:03] <adam__> Number_5:  now where would I find this?
[05:03] <pike_> whitt, have you checked wiki.ubuntu.com? there is a list there of webcams and if they work
[05:03] <caminomaster> hello
[05:03] <DShepherd> harisund: let me see if I can find the name of it..
[05:03] <whitt> hmmok
[05:03] <adam__> number_5: I am in Synaptic Package Manager, looking for the category that wine might fit into
[05:03] <whitt> ok
[05:03] <whitt> thanks
[05:04] <caminomaster> please where can I set firefox to use gxine instead totem?
[05:04] <harisund> DShepherd ah you have just given me some relief. Thanks a lot. I know I can search on Google, but if somebody here gives me the info, I would be most thrilled.
[05:04] <whitt> wiki.unbuntu.com
[05:04] <Number_5> adam__: settings...repositories
[05:04] <pike_> adam__, youll have to enable universe before it shows up
[05:04] <regeya_>
[05:04] <dasGewitter> Number_5: Thank you, I thought I had that app installed, suppose not.
[05:04] <Comrade-Sergei> rememeber that BSOD sceensaver in hoary and breezy, well is it in the repos somewheres? PLEASE
[05:04] <whitt> link didnt work
[05:04] <dasGewitter> david_: still need help?
[05:04] <Number_5> adam__: in that window enable the universe repository
[05:04] <regeya> sorry 'bout that; for some reason I can't ssh into my work machine to kill irssi
[05:05] <david_> yes
[05:05] <dasGewitter> david_: ok, it's no problem
[05:05] <DShepherd> harisund: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm <- try that
[05:05] <whitt> pike_, that link didnt work
[05:05] <amicrawler> help on nvidia  drivers
[05:05] <Number_5> dasGewitter: did you get it unrar'd?
[05:05] <DShepherd> harisund: i dont know about writing though.. but i know it reads
[05:05] <pike_> whitt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[05:06] <Number_5> amicrawler: what kinda help do ya need?
[05:06] <dasGewitter> Number_5: Yes sir, well...it's a large file, still unarchiving; however, I'll let you know for when it finishes
[05:06] <amicrawler> enable the driver
[05:06] <Number_5> dasGewitter: good
[05:06] <pike_> whitt, i might have mistyped
[05:06] <whitt> lol
[05:06] <whitt> ok
[05:06] <whitt> its cool
[05:06] <dasGewitter> david_: find an empty area of the taskbar to click, then select, "add to panel"
[05:06] <caminomaster> please, who can help me with firefox?
[05:06] <harisund> Thanks DShepherd, I was also looking at another software called Ext2IFS .... Supposed to be in beta stage, and allows for writing (seems fine though so far).. I will have a look at your stuff also. Thanks :)
[05:06] <Number_5> amicrawler: in a terminal type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:06] <whitt> pike_, what is it rofl
[05:07] <Number_5> amicrawler: if you have installed the driver via apt-get already that is
[05:07] <dasGewitter> david_: Scroll down to the "Utilities" section and double click the "Main Menu" icon, or just select it and click, "Add"
[05:07] <amicrawler> it's is downling
[05:07] <holler> hello, was wondering if anybody could help with this issue involving ubuntu and php, trying to connect to a database on the system and i'm getting this error 'Class 'DB' not found'
[05:07] <Y4llow> I need a hand setting up mp3's to play, i know this si a common question but everything I've tried doesnt work.
[05:07] <Indref> Oh damn.
[05:07] <Comrade-Sergei> rememeber that BSOD sceensaver in hoary and breezy, well is it in the repos somewheres? PLEASE
[05:07] <Indref> I'm going to be a drop in the rain here..
[05:08] <workin> yo
[05:08] <pebkac> holy CHRIST
[05:08] <david_> all there is is the desktopm with a mozilla icon
[05:08] <pebkac> compiz is _beautiful_
[05:08] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: What is it doing?
[05:08] <Number_5> pebkac: amen
[05:08] <Indref> Any chance I could have some installation help here?
[05:08] <workin> <- needs help
[05:08] <pike_> whitt, search for webcam there are two links you want to lookat webcam and hardwaresupport both near the top
[05:08] <workin> <- needs installation help too
[05:08] <Number_5> Indref: what you need
[05:09] <Number_5> well ask your questions :P
[05:09] <pebkac> Number_5: don't suppose you could tell me how to assign key shrotcuts ffor some of the effects (vis., Water)
[05:09] <workin> it goes insanely slow
[05:09] <dasGewitter> david_: hmm, maybe it was, "Menu Bar"
[05:09] <dasGewitter> david_: try that one
[05:09] <Indref> Number_5: I am running windows, I have a windows partition and a files partition.
[05:09] <whitt> pike_, the link didnt work
[05:09] <Number_5> pebkac: water should be shift f9
[05:09] <pebkac> i know i need to open gset-compiz
[05:09] <Indref> Number_5: I want to keep the files, and I want to install Ubuntu.
[05:09] <shawnr_> anyone know how to stop frostwire from sucking up all my resources and freezing everytime i search/dl ?
[05:09] <pebkac> is there a list somewhere or something?
[05:09] <Number_5> shawnr_: it's java based...it's going to happen
[05:09] <Indref> Number_5: Any advice?
[05:10] <workin> <- needs installation help
[05:10] <shawnr_> pebkac, don't use gset-compiz
[05:10] <pike_> whitt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com i know that is up right now
[05:10] <Number_5> pebkac: yeah in gset-compiz
[05:10] <workin> AIM at RPGWORKINPROCESS
[05:10] <Jbirk> how do I turn off my custom linux startup screen?
[05:10] <pebkac> shawnr_: what should i use instead?
[05:10] <workin> or YAHOO AT LLENARD_TWEM
[05:10] <dasGewitter> shawnr_: while there are a lot of problems with frostwire, I hate to be frivolous, but I suggest Limewire
[05:10] <cmpalmer> anybody know how I can get accents on vowels in OpenOffice.org, either with the USA keyboard layout or LAm?
[05:10] <shawnr_> hold on one sec
[05:10] <pebkac> k
[05:10] <Indref> cmpalmer: Try the character map.
[05:10] <cmpalmer> Indref: that's not viable for lots of typing
[05:11] <Number_5> cmpalmer: applications....accessories...character map
[05:11] <Indref> cmpalmer: Heh, true..
[05:11] <workin> can someone help me with installation?
[05:11] <cmpalmer> this is for my mom, who writes mostly in Spanish
[05:11] <BlueEagle> workin: Well you'll have to specify the problem a bit closer before I can help you.
[05:11] <dasGewitter> cmpalmer: Or for I, who uses an English layout but types in German =(
[05:11] <BlueEagle> workin: oh, and the caps really doesn't help. :)
[05:11] <holler_> a
[05:11] <cmpalmer> dasGewitter: so you haven't found a good workaround?
[05:11] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: It says "The file is not an audio stream"
[05:12] <Number_5> cmpalmer: applications....accessories...character map
[05:12] <Number_5> try that
[05:12] <Number_5> best i can do
[05:12] <workin> blueeagle:you know how it says the installation takes 25 minutes? I've been trying to install since 4PM... It's no 11:12PM..
[05:12] <dasGewitter> well, it's not usually a problem for me, seeing as how umlauted letters can just be replaced by placing an, "e" beside it
[05:12] <whitt> hmm
[05:12] <whitt> not seeing any of that sorry
[05:12] <shawnr_> pebkac, http://www.box.net/public/yzcn5jnrk2
[05:12] <cmpalmer> Number_5: I have tried that, but that doesn't work if one has to type several pages worth of Spanish
[05:12] <BlueEagle> workin: I see. Which step are you on?
[05:12] <dasGewitter> I usually always forget to suggest alt-command characters for the next release.
[05:12] <cmpalmer> Number_5: it's fine for a paragraph, but rather clumsy
[05:12] <shawnr_> pebkac, http://www.box.net/public/yzcn5jnrk2 <-- go here its my personal file storage.. dl compiz-settings
[05:13] <dasGewitter> although
[05:13] <dasGewitter> I do have a suggestion
[05:13] <amicrawler> ok it is installed  how to enable it
[05:13] <holler> just a repeat, anybody know how to fix this issue in php on the ubuntu system? "Class 'DB' not found"....i have php-pear and php-db installed
[05:13] <cmpalmer> dasGewitter: do tell
[05:13] <dasGewitter> cmpalmer: Open an empty file and find all the accented characters
[05:13] <BlueEagle> workin: ie. what do you see on the installer?
[05:13] <cmpalmer> that was my impulse :/
[05:13] <workin> well
[05:13] <dasGewitter> cmpalmer_: copy and paste them to the empty file. then use the highlight pasting ability.  But I do not want to loose my files. Help, anyone?
[05:14] <shawnr_> Number_5, isn't limewire java based as well?
[05:14] <Jbirk> the startup screen that says ubuntu
[05:14] <Jbirk> ?
[05:14] <cmpalmer> perhaps I should file this as a bug?
[05:14] <Number_5> Number_5: yes it is
[05:14] <Number_5> lol
[05:14] <Number_5> shadow`: yes it is
[05:14] <AshDragonScale> Jbirk:
[05:14] <workin> blueeagle:insanely slow speeds... it all comes up eventually
[05:14] <dasGewitter> shawnr_: yes, but it runs a lot faster and smoother
[05:14] <cmpalmer> I really have gotten zero response from #ubuntu-es
[05:14] <shawnr_> pebkac, just run the .py file
[05:15] <workin> blueeagle:and it keeps coming up with errors... very slow errors too... first about the clock... then about the mixer applet
[05:15] <shawnr_> pebkac, make sure you set perm for ex
[05:15] <AshDragonScale> Jbirk: look online at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:15] <Number_5> cmpalmer: I've never used a non-us layout keyboard but you could change your keymap to a spanish one
[05:15] <shawnr_> pebkac, its still in devel, but it works alot better and wont crash your compiz
[05:15] <BlueEagle> workin: and which errors are they?
[05:15] <pebkac> woooah.
[05:15] <pebkac> okay.
[05:15] <pebkac> so i should have expected to see all those errors in terminal
[05:16] <pebkac> but the control panel still loaded
[05:16] <shawnr_> yes
[05:16] <BlueEagle> cmpalmer: please feel free to ask your questions (in english) here. :)
[05:16] <shawnr_> thats fine
[05:16] <pebkac> this is NICE.
[05:16] <whitt> anyone use webcams for mepis 6.0
[05:16] <dasGewitter> Has anyone heard how Edgy will work with compiz?
[05:16] <workin> "the panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID: Gnome_MIXERAPPLET
[05:16] <workin> ""
[05:16] <pebkac> can i safely remove gset-compiz?
[05:16] <BlueEagle> dasgewitter: #ubuntu+1 for edgy :)
[05:16] <Indref> Could someone please respond to my question?
[05:16] <shawnr_> dasGewitter, so Limewire... any others thats as good as frostwire i can try out?
[05:17] <shawnr_> pebkac, yes
[05:17] <workin> there was also one like it for the clock
[05:17] <Indref> Even just a cold
[05:17] <shawnr_> pebkac, thats never updated anyway
[05:17] <BlueEagle> dasgewitter: and I hear edgy doesn't really work all that well at all atm. :)
[05:17] <Indref> "Google it" would be nice
[05:17] <whitt> limewires the best
[05:17] <whitt> i think
[05:17] <Indref> whitt: Torrents are better
[05:17] <dasGewitter> BlueEagle: D8 ! that's a shame, it's fit for release in late October
[05:17] <Number_5> shawnr_: i use frostwire but i have plenty of resources and i don't leave it up long usually
[05:17] <whitt> oh yeah torrents are sweet but limewires quick
[05:17] <workin> blueeagle:"the panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID: Gnome_MIXERAPPLET"
[05:17] <holler> shawnr_: theres amule/emule
[05:18] <dasGewitter> Number_5: It's fully extracted
[05:18] <BlueEagle> workin: I see. Which sound card have you got?
[05:18] <shawnr_> I had emule on windows and it sucked
[05:18] <Number_5> dasGewitter: good deal
[05:18] <Jbirk> I just want to remove the ubuntu startup picture
[05:18] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: did that do it for you?
[05:18] <BlueEagle> workin: if you don't know type lspci in a terminal and look for "Multimedia audio controller"
[05:18] <Jbirk> I want to be able to see the boot
[05:18] <dasGewitter> Number_5: but...as far as burning it as an iso...
[05:18] <Jbirk> can I do it in grub
[05:18] <Number_5> dasGewitter: is the file an iso?
[05:18] <pebkac> one last lame question: how can i actually tell if ubuntu is using both cores of my core duo?  i installed linux-686-smp
[05:18] <Number_5> dasGewitter: you are in gnome correct?
[05:19] <dasGewitter> yes, and negative, it is not an iso file
[05:19] <Number_5> dasGewitter: do you want to make it an iso or soemthing?
[05:19] <BlueEagle> workin: also please tell me a bit more about your computer. I'd like to know which processor you've got and how much ram you've got installed.
[05:19] <workin> blueeagle: where is this termindal? and it wont let me do nothing
[05:19] <dasGewitter> well, the directions say to burn it as an iso. It's a movie
[05:19] <BlueEagle> workin: Programs->Accessories->Terminal
[05:19] <workin> blueeagle: even when I click "delete" it just freezes up for a ver y very very long time... eventually moves but it goes very slow
[05:20] <Number_5> dasGewitter: is it a dvd with video and audio directories?
[05:20] <BlueEagle> workin: Please.  :) Have you considered running a ligher weight window manager? Like Xubuntu desktop?
[05:22] <Indref> Support community my tail
[05:22] <regeya> Indref, I wish I'd been paying attention, but lots of luck with Windows.  Huh?
[05:22] <dasGewitter> Number_5: Way farther than you ;D
[05:22] <dasGewitter> wait...
[05:22] <dasGewitter> ..that's not what you say...
[05:22] <dasGewitter> Way something...
[05:22] <Number_5> dasGewitter: way ahead of you
[05:22] <dasGewitter> Yes!!
[05:22] <Number_5> ;)
[05:22] <dasGewitter> thank you
[05:22] <Number_5> dasGewitter: no prob
[05:22] <pebkac> shawnr_: any idea how to change the tooltips back to something resembling their original function with this control panel?
[05:22] <BlueEagle> workin: The problem might be that you're simply running out of memory. You can spot that by listening to your harddisk. If it's working like mad then it's because it's paging to the swap file all the time.
[05:22] <pebkac> shawnr_: they're all over the place right now
[05:23] <workin> blue eagle: some processor that goes at 550mhz... and 160ram
[05:23] <workin> well I figured that.... but it's just trying to install it..
[05:23] <workin> will it work this slow if I somehow get the patience to install it all?
[05:23] <AshDragonScale> Indref: Sorry I did not see your question. Going to Ubuntu and not loose files? Do you have a partition free?
[05:23] <BlueEagle> workin: Well you are below the required minimum for the live cd installer.
[05:24] <BlueEagle> workin: I would recomend you get the alternate install cd which has got a text installer.
[05:24] <kyja> hard drives are generaly faster than cd drives workin
[05:24] <workin> and the hard drive doesn't sound like its going mad... the CD drive does though..
[05:24] <workin> where do I get that?
[05:24] <BlueEagle> workin: also, if I were you, I'd really concider running xubuntu as it's less memory intensive.
[05:24] <Jbirk> how do I choose to load something different with grub?
[05:24] <kyja> under 192mb ram they say you need the alternate cd
[05:24] <Krank_> Greets
[05:24] <Jbirk> other than the default?
[05:25] <workin> oh... do I need to make a CD for that too?
[05:25] <AshDragonScale> Jbirk: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:25] <workin> is it much different than xubuntu?
[05:25] <workin> cause I formatted my harddrive doing this ^_^;;;
[05:25] <workin> it's go nothin
[05:25] <workin> XD
[05:26] <workin> is it much different than ubuntu*
[05:26] <phargle> there's an x in front of its name
[05:26] <workin> where do I get this alternate CD?
[05:26] <Jbirk> I found it
[05:26] <Jbirk> I am running 6.06.1 LTS
[05:26] <BlueEagle> workin: I recomend http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06.1/release.1/xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[05:26] <dasGewitter> Number_5: Uh oh. I was trying to add the folders as both CD Image and DVD Image and it lists nothing for both
[05:26] <Jbirk> I hit eascape and got a GRUB menu
[05:27] <BlueEagle> workin: It is quite different.
[05:27] <AshDragonScale> try taking the splash off of the line " kernel             /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash "             in grub
[05:28] <workin> in good or bad ways? @_@
[05:28] <OsirisX11> help..my nvidia nonfree driver is no longer working. :( i installed it and it was working just fine and then i rebooted and now it doesnt show the nvidia bootup splash screen anymore and xgl stopped working too
[05:29] <kyja> you will probly have to go to the sites and carefuly review each ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu.
[05:29] <kyja> nubuntu ?
[05:29] <mchawla> Hi, I am not able to get my wireless internet working
[05:29] <mchawla> Cud u please help
[05:29] <OsirisX11> !ndiswrapper
[05:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:29] <BlueEagle> workin: You can ofcourse also try the ubuntu alternate install cd found on http://www.ubuntu.com/download (choose your location and then ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[05:29] <mchawla> I am even allocated an IP address
[05:29] <BlueEagle> workin: But on such a low spec system I really, really recomend xubuntu.
[05:29] <OsirisX11> mchawla: see the link above
[05:29] <mchawla> but lot of packets getting dropped
[05:30] <kyja> mchawla: details of machine and wireless please I just did 2 laptops. they work
[05:30] <workin> alrighty then... I am currently downloading xubuntu
[05:30] <kyja> ah
[05:30] <workin> thank you
[05:30] <BlueEagle> mchawla: wifi you say? Did you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide ?
[05:30] <BlueEagle> workin: no problem.
[05:31] <BlueEagle> workin: also you might concider joining #Xubuntu for help with xubuntu. :)
[05:31] <carthik> Hi, I have "headless" desktop at home which I want to connect to and see the desktop of using another system at home. How can I do this?
[05:31] <kyja> mchawla: if this is linksys or broadcom wireless cards I may be able to assist.
[05:31] <workin> blueeagle: alright.. thanks ^_^ ... also... is there a possibility I can install this through a usb device?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> carthik: ssh?
[05:32] <carthik> is there a documentation page I can read and follow to set things up real quick? thanks.
[05:32] <Jbirk> I removed the splash option
[05:32] <BlueEagle> workin: like a USB cd-rom?
[05:32] <Jbirk> and I removed the quiet option
[05:32] <Ricesteam> Hi, is it a known bug that sound is off sync in Firefox/Flash?
[05:32] <Jbirk> Now I am going to reboot and test
[05:32] <Jbirk> I hope it boots
[05:32] <phiber_optic> does hyperthreading afect linux in any wayt??
[05:32] <workin> blueeagle: more like an ipod or jump drive or something
[05:32] <farous> carthik: remote login oe ssh are both poss
[05:33] <carthik> Hobbsee: I have used freenx in the past - it works, but now I wonder if there are better supported alternatives. My questions are really stupid - like - if the system is at home, and I am at school, how would I know the "right" IP address to use to see the desktop etc.
[05:33] <BlueEagle> workin: and the problem is most likely not the CD or the CD-ROM drive. The problem is most likely lack of memory. And since you (probably) haven't got any swap space the CD gets stuck trying to load even more data into memory.
[05:33] <carthik> farous: thank you - would you know if there is a guide that will guide me through  the process?
[05:33] <silverpower> m
[05:33] <BlueEagle> workin: Even if you used an ipod or memory stick or such you'd still face the lack of memory and the same problem.
[05:34] <workin> blueeagle: no no no... I understand.. you know with all the VMM and RAM and bleh... I'm just saying... I'm out of blank CDs... ^_^;;;
[05:34] <dasGewitter> Number_5: This is very aggrivating
[05:34] <farous> carthik: you have to have static ip for it to work
[05:34] <DrewMarin> anybody got xgl or aiglx on draper?
[05:34] <carthik> Hobbsee: oh sorry - to answer your first question, I really need the graphical desktop.
[05:34] <dasGewitter> yes
[05:34] <regeya> guh.  gnome journal is BOOOOORING
[05:34] <mchawla> Sorry for disturbing again. I have been assigned IP address by DHCP server but still am not able to ping the google.com website. Ethernet works fine on this machine. Only wireless is giving problem and that too after getting assigned an ip address. Could somebody please help ?
[05:34] <kyja> workin it is as blue eagle says, you need 192 meg of rab for live cd. or else you have to use alternate cd
[05:34] <BlueEagle> workin: Aww. Well I'd email you one if I could. :)
[05:34] <Ricesteam> Is there a fix for the sound issue in Flash/firefox?
[05:34] <dasGewitter> mchawla: pm me
[05:34] <Chimamire_no_Yum> lol...ubuntu even has its own thongs
[05:34] <carthik> farous: oh I see. uhm okay. How would it work with that (And do I still need a static IP if both PCs are at home)?
[05:34] <BlueEagle> workin: as for booting from an ipod? Never heard of anyone doing that.
[05:35] <phiber_optic> does hyperthreading afect linux in any wayt??
[05:35] <regeya> http://gnomejournal.org/article/46/the-gnome-community-end-users <- if you have to explain at this point why the user is important, give up, yfi.
[05:35] <farous> carthik: if you have lan and static ip through your router there is no prob
[05:35] <regeya> phiber_optic: only if you're hacking the gibson.
[05:35] <lostsync> lol regeya
[05:35] <silverpower> phiber_optic, you need an SMP kernel, that's about it. Ubuntu should detect your SMP-capable kit anyway.
[05:35] <BlueEagle> phiber_optic: the linux kernel supports hyperthreading with the smp kernel afaik.
[05:35] <phiber_optic> what do u mean regeya
[05:36] <regeya> hacking the GIIIIBSON
[05:36] <kyja> phiber_optic: I have a p4 with hiper threading and this thing rawks
[05:36] <workin> blueeagle/kyja: I understand about the RAM... I just figured I would give it a shot anyway. I'm going to use xubuntu instead. I just don't have blank CDs. figured maybe I could do this a different way.
[05:36] <farous> carthik: for ssh it is simplyt ssh -X username@homeipaddress, and you have graphical interface too
[05:36] <phiber_optic> the thing is my computer has been behaving weird since i instlaled my new processor, everytime I download something the md5 is wrong
[05:36] <phiber_optic> when i move data from one partition to another the md5 dchanges
[05:36] <Y4llow> Can somebody help me to get Rhythmbox to support mp3
[05:36] <carthik> farous: ah, ok. I can set a static IP for that system, within the LAN. Now the question is - which is the best way to set things up? the XDCMP/Rdesktop/ VNC/tightvnc/vnc-over-ssh/FreeNX options really confuse me. I want something that is "Free" and easy to setup and maintain.
[05:36] <regeya> plugs, even
[05:36] <regeya> !tell Y4llow about nonfree
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <regeya> !tell Y4llow about non-free
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <regeya> !tell Y4llow about mp3
[05:37] <workin> blueeagle/kyja: I understand about the RAM... I just figured I would give it a shot anyway. I'm going to use xubuntu instead. I just don't have blank CDs. figured maybe I could do this a different way.
[05:37] <farous> carthik: ssh was the first thing i tested and did not need to inves further
[05:37] <regeya> HELLO UBOTU HAVE YOU BEEN LOBOTOMIZED?
[05:37] <carthik> farous: do I get to login to the remote desktop and see the actual desktop and have a session with ssh -X ? I thought that was "x forwarding" for particular single apps
[05:37] <farous> so basically i oly used ssh
[05:37] <phiber_optic> any ideas why this happens?
[05:37] <mchawla> dasGewitter: how do i message u ?
[05:37] <poison> when you apt-get and then remove something does it keep a cache? I installed postfix and later removed it and deleted the directory and now when I try to  reinstall it doesn't pull everything down like orginally.
[05:37] <farous> carthik: yah you for x for each appl you use
[05:38] <kyja> if your machine suports usb booting you probly can even off ipod
[05:38] <silverpower> Yeesh. xchat shouldn't be *this* cramped... :(
[05:38] <dasGewitter> mchawla: find my name in the list of names and double click it, or type /pm dasgewitter
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !mp3
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <kyja> if ipod can mount like any other usb drive sticl
[05:38] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: That did not work, it said the package has no installation candidate. It's not connected to the net btw.
[05:38] <BlueEagle> workin: Well it _is_ possible but it's a really nasty hack involving A) Setting off a partition to hold the .iso image, B) Booting linux from a floppy and then mounting the .iso as a loopback device and C) booting off that loopback device. But unless you really really know what you're doing I'd not recomend even starting down that lane.
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !nonfree > regeya
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Hobbsee> regeya: seems not
[05:38] <Hobbsee> !mp3 > regeya
[05:38] <regeya> ++ungood
[05:38] <chungaroo> is there any way to start an application automatically upon logging in?
[05:39] <workin> Alrighty I'll stop bugging you all.. Thanks though
[05:39] <BlueEagle> hobbsee: I think it's "restricted" not "nonfree" :)
[05:39] <dasGewitter> chungaroo: in the start up script
[05:39] <carthik> farous, what is it that the "applications->internet->terminal server client" uses? Or anything that is available by default in any Ubuntu desktop? (So I will have better luck guiding my girlfriend and dad later)?
[05:39] <phiber_optic> BlueEagle, do u have any ideas ?
[05:40] <farous> carthik: sorry for the slow repl lost my a letter on this laptop. dam this lenovo takeover
[05:40] <kyja> chungaroo: systems>preference>sessions |tab startup programs
[05:40] <Y4llow> lol me?
[05:40] <BlueEagle> phiber_optic: I'm sorry? About what?
[05:40] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: ok so look in you System > Administration > synaptic... load that up and search for mpg123
[05:40] <lostsync> poison, yeah it does.  you can sudo apt-get clean to get rid of the cached files
[05:40] <phiber_optic> when i move data from one partition to another the md5 dchanges, also when i download somehting the md5 is werong.. could it be something related to my processor, harddrive?
[05:40] <farous> carthik: am not heavy gui user so will not know
[05:40] <poison> tried that but when I try to reinstall I get the same result. it is missing some files
[05:40] <chungaroo> kyja: thanks a bunch. i just go skippy and i love it
[05:41] <chungaroo> got*
[05:41] <carthik> farous: I appreciate your help, and may Lenovo see better days! :)
[05:41] <farous> lol
[05:41] <poison> is there another place that it keeps track of this?
[05:41] <lostsync> poison, not that i know of.
[05:41] <mchawla> dasGwitter: It is not coming, sorry am using it for the first time
[05:41] <DrBanzai> Okay, how do I use minicom to communicate with a serial device OTHER then a modem?
[05:41] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: it didn't find anything
[05:41] <Hobbsee> BlueEagle: i'm fixing it now
[05:41] <kyja> =]
[05:41] <lostsync> poison, have you tried a complete removal in synaptic?
[05:41] <BlueEagle> phiber_optic: How are you for power?  With a P4 and a nVidia card and a couple of hard drives you really want in excess of 400W.
[05:41] <poison> yup
[05:42] <farous> hope lenovo revert to better craftmanship
[05:42] <f> why is my name f?
[05:42] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: you said it is not connected to the internet?...
[05:42] <f> wierd.
[05:42] <phiber_optic> i have 350
[05:42] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: no internet connection
[05:42] <jumbers> I have 890
[05:42] <eggzeck> Man, I had 3D Accel working with this pc and Ubuntu straight out the box, but it was too choppy for ET, so I had to get fglrx to work, was hell but it's BEAUTIFUL haha
[05:42] <mchawla> dasGewitter : there ?
[05:43] <dasGewitter> yeah
[05:43] <BlueEagle> phiber_optic: Well I had trouble with one old drive (segate iirc) when I was running short on power. Keept messing up my data.
[05:43] <lostsync> poison, maybe you could download a .deb from another source and use dpkg to install it
[05:43] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: give me a few
[05:43] <farous> carthik: if it is for your dad do you use the desktop as server ?
[05:43] <phiber_optic> but I only have one hard drive, video card 64 mb
[05:43] <dasGewitter> mchawla: I just messaged you
[05:43] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: Ok, thanks
[05:44] <mchawla> dasGewitter: I have not received any message :(
[05:44] <Jbirk> I have done everything I want to do in linux
[05:44] <Jbirk> except
[05:44] <Jbirk> I want to configure shorewall
[05:44] <carthik> farous: yes, I _think_ I found the answer, finally. The "VNC" "VNCoverSSH" pages at the wiki are helpful, or seem so, at least.
[05:44] <DrBanzai> I got minicom configured, and the cable is hooked up, I start minicom, but it just sits there at offline.  How do I make it go online without trying to dial?
[05:44] <Jbirk> I can wait another day
[05:44] <BlueEagle> dasgewitter: Have you registered with nickserv? You need to do that in order to be able to /msg. It's a spam control issue.
[05:44] <dasGewitter> mchawla: You should have.
[05:44] <n4cht> anyone know of a good bittorrent client?  azureus and bittornado have been crap so far.  3 mins just to connect to 3/300 seeds, and then only at 2kB/s
[05:44] <farous> carthik: did you consider sshfs
[05:44] <dasGewitter> BlueEagle: grrrr I totally forgot about that.
[05:45] <BlueEagle> dasgewitter: :)
[05:45] <farous> mounting your desktop as a local drive through ssh
[05:45] <carthik> farous: i have an all but dead PII that I can use to connect to an AMD64 PC - hence my interest
[05:45] <dasGewitter> mchawla: have you any other instant messaging program?
[05:45] <pike_> n4cht, as far as connections goes ive found azureus to be best are you behind a router? setup port forwarding?
[05:45] <Warbo> Will running Xorg-air instead of Xorg give me a significant performance hit?
[05:45] <mchawla> dasGewitter :gaim will do ?
[05:45] <dasGewitter> yes
[05:45] <farous> carthik: ok
[05:45] <mchawla> dasGewitter : id on that ?
[05:46] <carthik> farous: no, I need him to be able to browse, use the computer normally, but a PII is too slow - so I want to use it only to "display" the desktop from another more powerful machine.
[05:46] <BlueEagle> n4cht: That's not neccessarily the clients fault. One thing is that there might not be any more seeders/leechers. Another thing might be a firewall not having opened incoming connections on bt ports.
[05:46] <dasGewitter> mchawla: for which medium? AIM, MSN, ICQ?
[05:46] <n4cht> no router.  just figured it out though.  stupid max upload rate was set to "automatic" instead of unlimited.
[05:46] <mchawla> MSN
[05:46] <mchawla> dasGewitter : chawla_mc
[05:46] <carthik> Thank you farous, Hobbsee - you guys have a great day.
[05:46] <kirsten> help! my apt-get is broken! it says The package hl1440lpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:47] <BlueEagle> n4cht: Well there you go. It might be a good idea to read the manual before complainign about an application. :)
[05:47] <n4cht> BlueEagle, none of which are the problem.  I'm actually downloading something via bt on my ubuntu partition that i just downloaded on windows.
[05:47] <wubrgamer> is there a way for me to like.......
[05:47] <DrBanzai> Any ideas??  I got minicom configured, and the cable is hooked up, I start minicom, but it just sits there at offline.  How do I make it go online without trying to dial?
[05:47] <wubrgamer> unencrypt a file on windows encrypted with pgp ?
[05:47] <wubrgamer> or gpg
[05:47] <BlueEagle> n4cht: and it's possible for a software firewall to block ports even if your router lets everything trough. :)
[05:47] <n4cht> so far, in the bt race.. windows is sadly winning.
[05:47] <n4cht> no software firewall, nor router.
[05:48] <wubrgamer> ?
[05:48] <wubrgamer> anyway
[05:48] <wubrgamer> gpg ?
[05:48] <wubrgamer> *smiles ?* i really need to get off my terminal.....
[05:48] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: http://wolfram.org/writing/howto/gpg.html
[05:49] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: You an ARK btw? *smiles*
[05:49] <wubrgamer> ARK ?
[05:49] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: Apperantly not. Never mind. Move along. Nothing more to see here.
[05:49] <wubrgamer> no
[05:49] <wubrgamer> what's ark
[05:50] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: If you had been you'd know. Really it's not important.
[05:50] <wubrgamer> ...
[05:50] <wubrgamer> well
[05:50] <wubrgamer> later
[05:50] <wubrgamer> thank you
[05:50] <DrBanzai> Any ideas??  I got minicom configured, and the cable is hooked up, I start minicom, but it just sits there at offline.  How do I make it go online without trying to dial?  All the man page talks about is using it with a modem.  I'm trying to connect to the managment port of my ethernet switch.
[05:50] <BlueEagle> wubrgamer: Np.
[05:51] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: What is the cable hooked up to you say?
[05:52] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Tha cable goes from Com1 on my PC to the management port on my 3com ethernet switch
[05:52] <CRoach> where can i unmute spdif?
[05:52] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: see if you can find mpg321
[05:53] <CRoach> i got a nforce2 and my speakers are using a optical cable and sounds not working....
[05:54] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: Nope, I had a look and theres nothing starting with mpg. Also I'm using Breezy Badger if that makes a difference.
[05:54] <diseaser> is there a tool/place where I can configure my wireless card beyond just a key and an ssid?
[05:54] <AshDragonScale> yes
[05:54] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: try gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:54] <phiber_optic> how can i go to a mounted disk in the command line?
[05:55] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic:  do you know where it is mounted?
[05:55] <phiber_optic> AshDragonScale, nop i just installed ubuntu before i didt it myself
[05:55] <skroll> Anyone using an intel i915GM with Aiglx manage to get a workaround for the slow text scrolling?
[05:56] <phiber_optic> and know i want to do a md5 checksum that i downloaded but its in a mounted drive
[05:56] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: Theres no mad plugin there.
[05:56] <OsirisX11> help..my nvidia nonfree driver is no longer working. :( i installed it and it was working just fine and then i rebooted and now it doesnt show the nvidia bootup splash screen anymore and xgl stopped working too
[05:57] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: which switch are we talking about here?
[05:57] <OsirisX11> i tried reinstalling it and it didnt matter..still no splash screen
[05:57] <phiber_optic> AshDragonScale, any ideas/?
[05:57] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow:  well... because there is not internet connection to the box it is going to take a bit.
[05:57] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, it's a 3Com SuperStack II 3000
[05:57] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Er, actually, I think the whole thing is 3Com SuperStack II Switch 3000
[05:58] <pollypocket> ok so how can i configure firefox to report to sites that it has Flash 8.0 r22 instead of the actually installed flash 7.0
[05:58] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: Heh, I figured that much. I've only got wireless broadband and I can't get that going either.
[05:58] <Warbo> Who was trying to get cairo-dock working earlier?
[05:58] <Warbo> (and are they still here?)
[05:58] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?highlight=%28mount%29
[05:58] <pollypocket> its gotta be doable
[05:58] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: now, I'm not familiar with minicom but you've set it up to use /dev/ttyS0 right?
[05:59] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Yes, I have
[05:59] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, And if there is something other then minicom that I could/should use, I'd like to hear about it
[06:00] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: If it's going to be to much trouble I'll work on my connection first, as I need that aswell. Thankyou for the help!
[06:00] <Seq> does anybody know offhand what the debhelper tool is that automatically generates entries in the debian/changelog file in a package?
[06:00] <Warbo> If anyone sees him/her again the fix is simple: delete or move the "cairo-dock" executable, then "make" will compile it for your system
[06:00] <regeya> mmm terminal emulator
[06:01] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow: well, do a google search for mpg321 on the box you are using and download it, you may have to manually download and install the dependencies too
[06:02] <Y4llow> AshDragonScale: That's probably what I've been trying to do up until now. I've only just started with Linux so I get stuck with the installing bit.
[06:02] <regeya> Y4llow, search the wiki for nonfree; it's not that difficult to install mp3 deps, nor is it a big secret
[06:03] <Warbo> packages.ubuntu.com lets you search for and download packages and their dependencies
[06:03] <Y4llow> regeya: Thanks, I'll have a look at that
[06:03] <regeya> Y4llow: mpg321 is in universe
[06:04] <rodrigo> VER
[06:04] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure the sound?
[06:04] <Y4llow> regeya: As I said before I've only just started with linux, and I sould need to be on the net with it for that right?
[06:05] <wallison> anyone got bcm43xx working on ppc?
[06:05] <AshDragonScale> Y4llow:  yes to access the universe you will have to be online
[06:05] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure the sound my soundblaster card has not been recognized?
[06:05] <phiber_optic> :(
[06:05] <silverpower> wallison, plenty of people have, but frankly, I'm unsure that Ubuntu can do it.
[06:05] <Y4llow> Heh, figures.
[06:06] <AshDragonScale> :)
[06:06] <wallison> silverpower: I got it to scan, but wouldn't join
[06:06] <Y4llow> I'll get through it!
[06:06] <silverpower> wallison, seeing as how most successes come from Gentoo/ppc users...
[06:06] <Y4llow> If only Woosh gave support for linux.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: unforunately, you don't; there is a solution - run win32 fx in wine, then you'll able to go to site where it has the latest flash version (later than 7.x)
[06:07] <regeya> meh.
[06:07] <wallison> silverpower: maybe i'll check out their forums, not tonight though, been messing with it for days!
[06:07] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me please?
[06:07] <nopcode> hey
[06:08] <regeya> !tell phiber_optic about ask
[06:08] <nopcode> whats the current stable release of ubuntu?
[06:08] <silverpower> wallison, I suggest asking in #bcm-users.
[06:08] <phiber_optic> regeya I already asked ;)
[06:08] <DBO> nopcode, 6.06
[06:08] <TheGame> hey
[06:08] <nopcode> DBO: i mean... in terms of... names?
[06:08] <pollypocket> IcemanV9: well is there some tools for ubuntu to install wine then firefox then flash
[06:08] <TheGame> whats the best newsreader for ubuntu
[06:08] <DBO> nopcode, dapper drake
[06:08] <wallison> silverpower: ok, thanks
[06:08] <TheGame> or gnome in general i guess
[06:08] <nopcode> DBO: how old is "hoary"?
[06:08] <TheGame> pan newsreader sucks
[06:08] <silverpower> I'd tell you to ask in #gentoo-ppc if the relevant dep was awake, wallison.
[06:08] <phiber_optic> phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure the sound my soundblaster card has not been recognized?
 :(
[06:08] <DBO> nopcode, about a year
[06:09] <Nexea> hey
[06:09] <OsirisX11> TheGame: I've been using NINAN and i love it. :)
[06:09] <nopcode> DBO: ic.. how do i upgrade to dapper drake? just change the apt-sources?
[06:09] <pollypocket> is wine just hanging out in synaptic ?
[06:09] <Nexea> i just stopped in to say what a cool job the open source community is doing
[06:09] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Any ideas?
[06:09] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: sudo aptitude install wine
[06:09] <Nexea> i just got into subversion and i love
[06:09] <Nexea> it
[06:09] <Nexea> i love open source now
[06:09] <nopcode> svn rocks, yeah
[06:09] <TheGame> ill give it a try
[06:09] <TheGame> what windows app is it like OsirisX11
[06:09] <wallison> silverpower: i'll try again in a couple days, for now Ubuntu's madwifi is working with my pc card
[06:09] <DBO> nopcode, it would be faster to reinstall if thats not an issue, otherwise you have to upgrade to breezy-badgery, then to dapper-drake
[06:09] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: AND dl win32 fx from mozilla.org then install it
[06:10] <nopcode> DBO: can't, it's a remote server
[06:10] <regeya> svn is incredibly useful
[06:10] <Nexea> i mean.. i can completely screw up a file many different times and completely revert and compare changes
[06:10] <KroniX> Hey is it possible to not reformat the root filesystem when doing an install from the livecd?
[06:10] <nopcode> DBO: ok, how do i upgrade then?
[06:10] <TheGame> OsirisX11: what is the pckg name for ninan
[06:10] <pollypocket> ok so wine install is under way
[06:10] <Nexea> and combined with TortoiseSVN with windows.. its even better
[06:10] <Nexea> oh, let me ask you guys.. while i am here
[06:10] <Warbo> KroniX: I think so (there is a box on the right of each partition "Format" "Do Not Format")
[06:10] <DBO> !upgrade > nopcode
[06:11] <wallison> silverpower: thanks for the suggestions
[06:11] <Nexea> what is the command line for the file explorer?
[06:11] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: You using a regular modem cable or a null-modem cable?
[06:11] <KroniX> Warbo, Yeah but it forces me to do it
[06:11] <DBO> nopcode, the bot has sent you a message with the concept
[06:11] <Warbo> Nexea: "nautilus"
[06:11] <Nexea> ohh i see
[06:11] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: I am guessing the latter and that being the cause of your ailments.
[06:11] <nopcode> DBO: ok thanks
[06:11] <pollypocket> ok so wine install apears done
[06:11] <Nexea> warbo: and how do i elevate its power only for one operation? instead of doing sudo nautilus
[06:11] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: make that the former.
[06:11] <Nexea> like access a file
[06:11] <pollypocket> just get firefox now
[06:11] <KroniX> Warbo, it says it's required that the root filesystem be formatted, the only problem is the root filesystem has about 70 gigs of backup that can't be moved onto an external disk for another week
[06:11] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Actually, it's a ragular serial cable
[06:11] <silverpower> wallison, np.
[06:11] <Warbo> Nexea: Or "nautilus /wherever/you/want/to/visit"
[06:12] <nopcode> DBO: that update manager thing... i'll still need to do the other stuff before?
[06:12] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: You need to be using a null-modem cable (ie crossed CTX and RTX iirc) according to http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/switches/s_stack2/pdf/16942au3.pdf
[06:12] <Nexea> hmm
[06:12] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: (yes I downloaded the pdf and read it just for you)
[06:12] <Warbo> Nexea: 1) Use "gksudo nautilus" instead of sudo (sudo can screw up preferences' permissions) and 2) I don't know, just quit it after doing that one thing
[06:12] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Could be, and probably is, but when I get a null modem cable, I still won't know how to get minicom to go online without trying to dial
[06:12] <Nexea> ohh thank you warbo
[06:13] <Nexea> never heard of gksudo
[06:13] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: ,--8<-
[06:13] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: |have a look-see on page 2-7 "If you are using a PC, you need a null modem
[06:13] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: |cable with an appropriate connector.
[06:13] <Nexea> there  are a ton of commands i have noticed.. i guess that is the unix philosophy
[06:13] <DBO> nopcode, basically you need to change your sources from hoary to breezy, then upgrade
[06:13] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: `-->8-
[06:13] <phiber_optic> anyone can help me configure my sound please?
[06:13] <Warbo> Nexea: "ls /usr/bin"
[06:13] <Nexea> Warbo: but thanks, i appreciate it
[06:13] <DBO> nopcode, once you are all up to date for breezy, you need to change your sources agian to dapper, and upgrade again
[06:13] <Nexea> oh yeah, i know ls
[06:13] <BlueEagle> sorry about that :(
[06:13] <regeya> DrBanzai, BlueEagle:  don't know about the situation anymore, but I bought a premade crossover cable as recently as 2000 at Staples...worked fine
[06:13] <KroniX> anyone, bueler :)
[06:13] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic: what's wrong with it?
[06:13] <Warbo> Nexea: Most "commands" are in /usr/bin (they are files, ala the other part of the UNIX philosophy)
[06:14] <kleedrac> So I tried getting suspend2 working last night and it broke my wireless card ... which packages should I reinstall?
[06:14] <Nexea> warbo: ls, cd, rm, sudo, su.. those are really heavily used.. so i had to know them.. but the other commands that are not as used.. like say htpwd
[06:14] <phiber_optic> AshDragonScale, it didnt recogineze my SoundBlaster card but it recognized the onboard sound card
[06:14] <BlueEagle> regeya: Well most likely people will have to cross their own cables.
[06:14] <phiber_optic> and i dont know how to confiugre it
[06:14] <Nexea> warbo: yeah.. but i just see executables.. not really what they mean
[06:14] <Nexea> warbo: although i can always --help and man X file
[06:14] <Nexea> warbo: also.. grep is very, very nice
[06:14] <omnid> How do I shot WMV support
[06:14] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Ahh, I see that now.  I just wish my Wyse 160 hadn't crapped out on me, I could avoid all these problems
[06:14] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: Are the connectors welded (or compact) or can you unscrew them?
[06:15] <Nexea> warbo: my first commands were something like ps -A | grep apache2
[06:15] <Nexea> warbo: very useful
[06:15] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: The good thing is that you can telnet in over tcp/ip
[06:15] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic:  what version are you running? Dapper?
[06:15] <phiber_optic> AshDragonScale, yes dapper
[06:15] <corndog_> i do a lot of web development including c#, php, xhtml, etc. I just switched to ubuntu tonight.. can anyone recommend some good editors with auto-complete and syntax highlighting?
[06:15] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Well, actually, I extended my serial cable, using a couple DB9 to RJ45 connectors, and a patch cable
[06:15] <pollypocket> ok so I downloaded firefox windows to desktop and double clicked the file and it said could not display
[06:16] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, I could telnet in, if I knew which IP address to use
[06:16] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%29
[06:16] <Nexea> corndog_: i would like to know the answer to your question as well.. i code in c# on an almost weekly basis. i would love to work in ubuntu and get rid of my windows machine
[06:16] <TheGame> OsirisX11: apparently you have to be a genius to install ninan
[06:16] <harisund> back
[06:16] <omnid> WELCOME BACK!!!
[06:16] <harisund> Is it possible to triboot Ubuntu AMD64, Ubuntu i386 and Window XP?
[06:16] <mrproper> What do I do to get hibernation working on my system?
[06:17] <Warbo> harisund: I would say yes
[06:17] <omnid> harisund, I don't see why not
[06:17] <regeya> BlueEagle: true, but from my own experience, if you're too lazy to do it yourself, there's always a lazy overpriced solution *wink*
[06:17] <harisund> omnid lol, I wanted to type /back in my irssi and I ended up typing just back.
[06:17] <pollypocket> IcemanV9: I just set the permissions to 777 and it still does not execute
[06:17] <Warbo> harisund: Although you would need 2 GRUBs
[06:17] <corndog_> Nexea: i still have a windows machine for work (microsoft technologies).. but I have switched over entirely to ubuntu for home use and for side jobs (mostly php, ror)
[06:17] <AshDragonScale> pollypocket: you are trying to install the windows version of FireFox on Ubuntu?
[06:17] <pollypocket> right
[06:17] <AshDragonScale> pollypocket: why?
[06:17] <omnid> That sounds like a fail
[06:17] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: it should run
[06:17] <pollypocket> to get around flash 8.0
[06:18] <harisund> Warbo and omnid that was my question. What I had in mind was install Windows XP, which woudl take over the MBR. Install i386, which would create a grub containing Windows XP and i386, then install AMD64 which would install Grub2 containing Grub1 and AMD64. Right?
[06:18] <omnid> Flash didn't even work for me until I installed it
[06:18] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: i didn't have problem on my box .. hm
[06:18] <regeya> AshDragonScale: hey, try scrolling back a bit, my overly excitable friend
[06:18] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: Then you need to consult your network administrator (according to the manual) :p
[06:18] <omnid> Is something wrong with flash 8?
[06:18] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Yeah, I know...
[06:18] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: nmap might be able to help you though. If you've got time to spare.
[06:18] <Warbo> I would say Ubuntu gets around Flash 8 quite well. If you want to USE Flash 8, and not get around it, then use Windows Firefox in WINE
[06:18] <pollypocket> well additionally i really want to see what this run windows software on wine stuff is all about
[06:18] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that
[06:18] <Nexea> corndog_: ahh i see.. yeah.. i use ubuntu for some of my servers but i would love to have more machines run on it
[06:19] <snoops> flash 9 you mean.. good luck finding a copy of flash 8 these days
[06:19] <Nexea> corndog_: it's a very beautiful package
[06:19] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: open "home" folder and double-click on win32 fx
[06:19] <nopcode> DBO: It is recommended that you have the "ubuntu-desktop", "kubuntu-desktop", or "edubuntu-desktop" metapackage (depending on which distribution you're running exactly) in order to ensure that you have the full set of default packages.
[06:19] <omnid> pollypocket: I use vmware because Reason supposedly works crappy in wine
[06:19] <omnid> as well as other audio programs aparently
[06:19] <pollypocket> early some one noted using flash 8 is not going to happen
[06:19] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Course, I haven;t had much luck trying to interpret nmap either
[06:19] <nopcode> DBO: hm, why would i have to install gui stuff on a remote server :|
[06:19] <phiber_optic> AshDragonScale, what surprises me why didnt it recognize, and on breeze it dig
[06:19] <omnid> Linux really really really needs a good audio creation program
[06:19] <DBO> nopcode, you can ignore that
[06:19] <phiber_optic> did*
[06:19] <cef> hey, anyone else have problems with playing YouTube videos since a few days ago? I get video but no sound
[06:19] <pollypocket> my version of flash plugin in firefox is 7.0 r63
[06:19] <snoops> Warbo regarding firefox in wine.. wine has a shocking windows system colour - is there a way to make it use your ubuntu window system colour?
[06:19] <Warbo> harisund: Basically you would want 1 grub on a partition, and 1 grub on MBR. This is not STRICTLY needed, but it means 2 Ubuntu systems won't be trying to overwrite each others' kernel image configs. Use the "chainloader" method that runs Windows to run the other GRUB partition
[06:19] <pollypocket> and synaptic does not have an update for it
[06:19] <snoops> and fonts
[06:19] <IcemanV9> that IS the version for linux only
[06:20] <KroniX> anyone know how to bypass the forced formatting of root in the ubuntu installer, possibly a way to start the expert install from the livecd?
[06:20] <Warbo> snoops: You mean a theme?
[06:20] <dribble> i want flash 9 linux and i wanst it yesterday
[06:20] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic: do you have the onboard sound turned off in bios or on the board?
[06:20] <williamb> how do i create folders using the terminal?
[06:20] <omnid> cef: No, but I have that problem with Googlevideos
[06:20] <harisund> Warbo sweet..thanks for the tip. So what exactly does the chainloader do? Where could I find more documentation on that?
[06:20] <snoops> Warbo I wouldn't expect widgets or anything.. just changing the fonts and window system colours in wine.. so it's not this dark grey and tiny font
[06:20] <phiber_optic> in the bios
[06:20] <phiber_optic> i think
[06:20] <Warbo> snoops: Look at the WINE page on help.ubuntu.com, since I added a theme section to it a few days ago
[06:20] <pollypocket> which ever the version conflict - the solution is firefox on wine
[06:20] <RalleAb> is there a way to start the guide that comes when you've just installed linux? the keyboard, time etc guide
[06:21] <snoops> a few days ago? Good timing :)
[06:21] <snoops> thanks
[06:21] <cef> never mind, it's fixed now
[06:21] <absurdhero> is anyone from canonical here?
[06:21] <pollypocket> IcemanV9: so now that ive downloaded firefox-win how do I isntall it
[06:21] <wallison> williamb: mkdir "directory_name" without the quotes
[06:21] <IcemanV9> i have win32 fx (with wine) running .. so my wife can watch some prime-time tv shows from ABC, NBC & CBS :)
[06:21] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic: make sure it is turned off there, check your manual and see if there is a jumper on the board to disable it.
[06:21] <omnid> cef: How did you fix it?
[06:21] <Warbo> pollypocket: "wine filename.exe"
[06:22] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: open "home" folder and double-click on win32 fx
[06:22] <cef> omnid: didn't.. it just works now
[06:22] <Warbo> pollypocket: Or double click
[06:22] <omnid> :/
[06:22] <phiber_optic> i read the whole manual and didnt find anything
[06:22] <Nexea> williamb: make sure you are either running root access to make a directory in certain places or use the sudo program to elevate your powers to a super user
[06:22] <omnid> I worry when stuff doesn't work then just "suddenly works"
[06:22] <omnid> It's an issue of stability
[06:23] <pollypocket> i did the double click but no work
[06:23] <williamb> Nexea, i got it. thanks
[06:23] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: nmap -p 21 0-255.0-255.0-255.1-254    <= that ought to find it.
[06:23] <Warbo> omnid: I just accept the "suddenly works" and am grateful for it, since most stuff never works again... :(
[06:23] <williamb> and thank you too wallison
[06:23] <omnid> Warbo: That's something people shouldn't do. Really if it's a problem it should be resolved overall
[06:23] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: might take half a centrury though and odds are you'll find it in the c class network ranges so you might only want to scan those.
[06:24] <kyja> then you right click an exe choose open with and then type in wineserver right?
[06:24] <Warbo> omnid: OK, then fix my Xorg :)
[06:24] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: ?? ok. try "wine program.exe" in the terminal
[06:24] <pollypocket> i ran the command line and now have the firefox installer running in a window
[06:24] <omnid> I don't even know what that is!!
[06:24] <kyja> then exe always works with wine
[06:24] <Nexea> nmap.. that's a port scanner right?
[06:24] <AshDragonScale> phiber_optic:  do you know the model of your sound card?
[06:24] <Warbo> !info xserver-xorg
[06:24] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[06:24] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: good. :)
[06:24] <omnid> So it's a server program?
[06:24] <snoops> ah nice and simple guide there Warbo, cheers
[06:24] <Warbo> omnid: It is the graphics server
[06:25] <omnid> ?
[06:25] <pollypocket> ok I just selected custom install and the only option is path to install c:\Program etc...   should this be changed ???
[06:25] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, That just came back with:  WARNING: No targets were specified, so 0 hosts scanned.
[06:25] <DrBanzai> Nmap run completed -- 0 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.007 seconds
[06:25] <Warbo> omnid: Those little pixels, and the mouse and keyboard? Done by X
[06:25] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: nope. i just left it the way it is.
[06:25] <omnid> So it's a designer?
[06:25] <Nexea> also.. why are there no operators or half ops in this channel?
[06:25] <phiber_optic> deam 3time linux freezed
[06:25] <phiber_optic> freezed
[06:25] <phiber_optic> :(
[06:25] <Warbo> I broke Xorg, so now I am in Xorg-air
[06:25] <omnid> I don't feel any reason to think it's anything remote
[06:26] <pollypocket> hmmmm i philosphize on how wine handles this some o ther time
[06:26] <omnid> so why do they call it server?
[06:26] <Warbo> omnid: You honestly don't know what X is, or are you joking?
[06:26] <omnid> I'm a complete newbie
[06:26] <IcemanV9> pollypocket: i just shared what i did with mine. now, it's up to ya. :)
[06:26] <omnid> It would be safe to assume I know little to nothing about Linux at all
[06:26] <pollypocket> away it goes
[06:26] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: nmap sT -p 21 192.0-255.0-255.1-254    <= that ought to find it.
[06:27] <Warbo> omnid: It is the architecture which draws all of the graphics on the system. It is a server since it is completely networked. You can open windows on another display on another computer, and they can open ones on yours, as long as the display permissions are set
[06:27] <omnid> Hmm I see
[06:28] <frig> is there an ubunu homepage?
[06:28] <pollypocket> shite the desktop icon is owned by root
[06:28] <eternalswd> frig, look at the topic
[06:28] <chemaja> omnid: http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[06:28] <Warbo> omnid: You can try "sudo X :5" to open a new display with the ID ":5" (use ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8 to switch back and forth)
[06:28] <wallison> silverpower: you back?
[06:28] <omnid> frig: http://ubuntu.com
[06:28] <frig> no, ubunu
[06:29] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: nmap sT -p 21 <IP_ADDRESS>/24      <= should do the same apperantly
[06:29] <omnid> Thought that was a typo...
[06:29] <frig> heh :)
[06:29] <Nexea> so is anyone else in here a web designer?
[06:29] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: keep in mind that I'm making this out from pages as I go so I may or may not be way off the mark. :)
[06:29] <omnid> Warbo: A new display? Like a new desktop or what?
[06:29] <wallison> silverpower: thought we better discuss in here before we got flamed in #gentoo!
[06:29] <Nexea> brb
[06:30] <silverpower> wallison, nah, it's fine.
[06:30] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, That one seems to be working.  The rest all gave the sam error...we'll see what this comes up with
[06:30] <Warbo> omnid: It will be empty if you don't put anything on it, but you could run another desktop on it if you want (to do that it is easier choosing System>Quit and pressing Switch User)
[06:30] <wallison> silverpower: just don't want to give 'em a reason!
[06:30] <omnid> Thanks for this chemaja
[06:30] <ubuntu> hi
[06:30] <silverpower> Some of the devs in -ppc wrote the AE driver. Too bad JoseJX isn't awake, he could help.
[06:31] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Hmmm, it's done.  Now what?  I've never used nmap from the command line before
[06:31] <wallison> silverpower: they're pretty bad sometimes in #debian too
[06:31] <omnid> Ah
[06:31] <ubuntu> hello DrBanzai
[06:31] <omnid> I created another user account guest
[06:31] <omnid> And gave it certain permissions to directories and things
[06:31] <DrBanzai> Hey ubuntu
[06:31] <omnid> Is that the same?
[06:31] <silverpower> wallison, mm. Well, we try to keep it reasonably friendly in there, but I understand the main gentoo chan isn't all that friendly.
[06:32] <ubuntu> how r u doing ?
[06:32] <dribble> gentoo chan's pretty friendly. just beyond busy with WAYY too many rtfm's
[06:32] <Warbo> Gah, I just tried to switch user and a) It asked "Which type of session do you want to start? AIGLX or standard?" But the screen had already locked, and b) I told it AIGLX and it said too many X sessions are open :(
[06:32] <dribble> ..but, the gentoo docs are un-paralleled
[06:32] <wallison> silverpower: cool, it's been a while since i've used linux and been in any channels, going off couple of years ago
[06:33] <Warbo> omnid: "Switch user" opens a new display so a different user (or another one of your user) can do stuff. It also locks the current display so you need a password to get back in
[06:33] <ubuntu> DrBanzai:  which version of ubuntu ur on?
[06:33] <geniusdot> a.....
[06:34] <case`> anyone know how to configure ez-ipupdate to update two A records?
[06:34] <omnid> One thing I dislike about Linux overall is the super strong sense of open source opposing commercial software
[06:34] <silverpower> wallison, I'm afraid I won't be of much help on Ubuntu-specific issues - this is a temporary install until Gentoo finishes rebuilding, and I wanted to see how far they'd come. I'm impressed.
[06:34] <ubuntu> silverpower:  hi
[06:34] <ubuntu> wallison:  hello
[06:34] <wallison> silverpower: yeah, me too. Long time slacker here
[06:34] <pollypocket> ok so if I installed firefox as root do I need to uninstall it so that I can then install it as my regular non-root user
[06:34] <omnid> Linux is great because of how open source it is, but really it could be waay better it if were just a little more commercial
[06:34] <wallison> ubuntu: hi
[06:35] <inv_Arp> case`: i use it to updated my ip... whats an A record
[06:35] <omnid> It doesn't seem to discuss that in this introduction to it
[06:35] <ubuntu> pollypocket: it should work for normal user to, just make sure links r made ok
[06:35] <case`> inv_Arp: I'm using it successfully to update my domain (mydomain.com), but I need it to also update the mx IP (mail.mydomain.com)
[06:35] <Warbo> omnid: http://www.redhat.com
[06:35] <pollypocket> firefox was downloaded to my regular users Desktop directory and installed from that directory
[06:35] <DrBanzai> ubuntu, I'm still using 5.04 (The Hoary Hedgehog)
[06:36] <`m0> hmm
[06:36] <inv_Arp> case`: then run it twice
[06:36] <ubuntu> DrBanzai: kool
[06:36] <`m0> Ubuntu is amazing...
[06:36] <`m0> Thanks guys....
[06:36] <omnid> Warbo: I hear redhat is crap, confirm/deny
[06:36] <inv_Arp> case`:  one for each
[06:36] <ubuntu> yes ubuntu is a nice os
[06:36] <pollypocket> ubuntu ok i'll see about setting the permissions to 777 on all those files and links . is that what you mean
[06:36] <`m0> It recognized EVERYTHING!
[06:36] <ubuntu> i have tried quite a few myself
[06:36] <`m0> unlike gentoo and other distr
[06:36] <dasGewitter> Hello, I burned a DVD as an ISO
[06:37] <dasGewitter> Now when I'm trying to play it, It says the source is encrypted
[06:37] <dasGewitter> I have libdvdcss2
[06:37] <dasGewitter> yet I still get the error
[06:37] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: did you rin this dvd?
[06:37] <ubuntu> pollypocket:  yes
[06:37] <inv_Arp> err rip
[06:37] <godtvisken> dasGewitter: hej kannst du deutsch?
[06:37] <dasGewitter> ja, ich kann.
[06:37] <ubuntu> dasGewitter:  prob. drm issue
[06:37] <dasGewitter> and yes, it's a ripped torrent.
[06:37] <case`> inv_Arp: sounds like it should work, have you done it? I'll just try it out.... what's the worst that could happen -- Thanks a lot!!
[06:38] <dasGewitter> drm?
[06:38] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: did you rip this dvd?
[06:38] <Warbo> omnid: I like their Bluecurve theme, but mainly for nostalgia :) Also, I like their stance on the openness of things (like they refused to include the slightly-more-free Java), but dislike their stance on Fedora. But Fedora has now been basically liberated from Redhat, so that is cool
[06:38] <ubuntu> digital right media
[06:38] <dasGewitter> Not me personally, but it is a ripped dvd
[06:38] <pollypocket> uhm I didnt notice this before, what does it mean ?
[06:38] <godtvisken> dasGewitter: cool. ich lerne deutsch in der schule und freue mich auf chancen es zu sprechen
[06:38] <dasGewitter> I downloaded from torrent
[06:38] <pollypocket> wine: '/home/grace/.wine' created successfully.
[06:38] <pollypocket> fixme:win:SetWindowTextW setting text L"Extracting" of other process window 0x10022 should not use SendMessage
[06:38] <`m0> Thanx ubuntu :D
[06:38] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: ok the person that ripped it didint remove to copy protextion
[06:39] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: Did you find any hits?
[06:39] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: please note that I've not used nmap either. :p
[06:39] <Warbo> drm=digital rights management (or digital restrictions management :) )
[06:39] <dasGewitter> so what do I do?
[06:39] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: so you cant play it either...
[06:39] <ubuntu> Warbo:  oops sorry
[06:39] <ubuntu> ur right
[06:39] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, I don't know.  I guess not.  It said it scanned 256 hosts, but didn't give any kind of an output
[06:39] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: \rm dvd.iso
[06:39] <inv_Arp> get rid of it
[06:39] <ubuntu> DrBanzai: what bout nmap
[06:40] <ubuntu> what r u trying to do?
[06:40] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: let me check something. :)
[06:40] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: or?
[06:40] <dasGewitter> there is no iso file
[06:40] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Cool, thanks
[06:40] <inv_Arp> use vobcopy  and rerip
[06:40] <dasGewitter> it's the type that has both Audio_TS and Video_TS
[06:40] <ubuntu> DrBanzai:  what r u trying to do with nmap?
[06:40] <lwarimav> rfghiosjd
[06:40] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: install vobcopy
[06:40] <dasGewitter> godtvisken: haha, tja, natuerlich. immer sprech
[06:40] <DrBanzai> ubuntu, I'm trying to configure my ethernet switch, so BlueEagle suggested that I use nmap to find out which IP addrerss the switch is using
[06:40] <dasGewitter> what's it do?
[06:40] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me configure my sound
[06:41] <ubuntu> i c
[06:41] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: it will rerip and remove copy protection
[06:41] <dasGewitter> I don't own the dvd, so you're saying it will glean the files?
[06:41] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: doesnt matter ... yes it will
[06:41] <omnid> Warbo: My only other experiance in Linux was with Linspire and kubuntu and I hated them both. Are a lot of distros similar to these?
[06:42] <inv_Arp> omnid: no...  try them out to find out
[06:42] <dasGewitter> inv_Arp: That's very annoying, since I just burnt the cd
[06:42] <inv_Arp> dasGewitter: no prob
[06:42] <ubuntu> usr -v option to see output
[06:42] <inv_Arp> just rerip and reburn
[06:43] <omnid> Well which is recommended? I was thinking of trying Gentoo
[06:43] <inv_Arp> omnid: are you good at linux?
[06:43] <Warbo> omnid: It would basically be the difference between KDE and GNOME. Most distros offer both, but support one more than the other. Ubuntu offers both, but kubuntu supports KDE more (well, now Ubuntu just ships any KDE stuff over to the Kubuntu guys). Loads of distros are based on KDE, but I don't like the feel of KDE. I prefer GNOME with Enlightenment (I've always had a thing for Enlightenment)
[06:43] <oem> hello all
[06:43] <oem> ?
[06:44] <ubuntu> hello oem
[06:44] <oem> I'm using GNOME
[06:44] <omnid> inv_Arp: No not at all
[06:44] <nopcode> i don't like cheap windows clones at all
[06:44] <nopcode> fvwm2 ftw
[06:44] <oem> but you know GNOME has two bars
[06:44] <inv_Arp> omnid: then gentoo isnt ez
[06:44] <oem> how can I remove the one on the bottom
[06:44] <ubuntu> if u wana try windows stuff on linux, better stick to windows
[06:44] <nopcode> ubuntu: ack
[06:44] <inv_Arp> omnid: fedora, Suse are nice also
[06:45] <Warbo> oem right click on an empty bit of it, then select "Delete this panel"
[06:45] <ubuntu> oem why do u wana remove it?
[06:45] <`m0> hmm
[06:45] <Salgat> Hey whats a good freeware partitioner(or at least something useable in trial) for windows, I need to make room for Linux lol
[06:45] <`m0> Wow, I wonder why I didn't use ubuntu at the beginning
[06:45] <`m0> the Gentoo distribution was a hassel
[06:45] <ubuntu> sladen:  gparted
[06:45] <oem> remember if I remove the one on the bottom when I open a file it won't be able to minimize
[06:45] <`m0> Ubuntu was like 1 2 3
[06:45] <`m0> done
[06:45] <Warbo> Salgat: Get a LiveCD of Ubutnu or GParted
[06:45] <TheGame> haha
[06:45] <TheGame> can some1 help me with pan news
[06:45] <Warbo> !gparted
[06:45] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:45] <inv_Arp> Salgat: nuthin for win i know of...  use parted for linux...
[06:45] <oem> I just don't like it ubuntu
[06:45] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: ok, new syntax :) nmap -sT -p 21 <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[06:45] <omnid> Warbo: I don't really like KDE either. Plus it feels like I'm just plain installing every program over again for an alternative because all of the KDE ones feel just like the packaged windows programs to me. Like only about half as good as I want them to be.
[06:45] <TheGame> with the new stable version
[06:45] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: But that will take ages.
[06:45] <Salgat> Gparted?  Thanks, this wont overwrite windows correct?
[06:46] <TheGame> i cant figure out how to open nzbs
[06:46] <BlueEagle> hmm
[06:46] <oem> I prefere on panel and at the bottom
[06:46] <TheGame> any1?
[06:46] <Warbo> oem: You can add the Window List applet to the top panel if you want
[06:46] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  also use the -vv option with nmap to see output
[06:46] <inv_Arp> Salgat: back up your data!!  regardless what prgram you use
[06:46] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: try instead: nmap -p 21 <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[06:46] <omnid> Warbo: Then again kubuntu is probably the only thing packaged like that
[06:46] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: and use -vv option too as it is more verbose.
[06:46] <seatouch-> !ftp
[06:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:46] <TheGame> has any1 used pan for nzbs
[06:46] <inv_Arp> TheGame: nzbperl
[06:46] <Salgat> Haha, if it reformats everything I dont mind, nothing important on here, but would rather not have to install again :)
[06:47] <TheGame> whats that
[06:47] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: and -vv appears to speed things up too.
[06:47] <oem> thanks warbo
[06:47] <inv_Arp> TheGame: google ot
[06:47] <Warbo> omnid: It's all a matter of preference, and I change my setup every few days (I tried Compiz+AIGLX about an hour ago, but it ran crap on my driver)
[06:47] <rast4_> has anyone been able to get the network drivers to work on an HP Pavilion zd7000 series?
[06:47] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Okay, I gave it nmap sT -vv -p 21 <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[06:47] <phiber_optic> can somebody help me in configuring my sound
[06:48] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, First thing it say is: Failed to resolve given hostname/IP: sT.  Note that you can't use '/mask' AND '[1-4,7,100-] ' style IP ranges
[06:48] <inv_Arp> rast4_: have you/
[06:48] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Now it's just sitting, I assume it's still scanning
[06:48] <Warbo> Does anyone here know a bit of eesh, since #enlightenment is asleep?
[06:48] <rast4_> inv_arp: no, hence the question
[06:48] <ubuntu> DrBanzai: DrBanzai it is -sT not sT
[06:48] <omnid> I think I just fear all my hardware will stop working again
[06:49] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: hit ctrl+c
[06:49] <inv_Arp> rast4_: what type of network card is it?
[06:49] <Salgat> How do I go into a console based Ubuntu, or is it only possible from the repair mode or terminal?
[06:49] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: then run: nmap -vv -p 21 <IP_ADDRESS>/16
[06:49] <Warbo> Salgat: ctrl-alt-f1
[06:49] <Salgat> By console I mean text only
[06:49] <ubuntu> Salgat: ctrl+alt+f1
[06:49] <GoonSquad> is there a way to set a default home folder for all users that you create ?
[06:49] <GoonSquad> is there a way to set a default home folder for all users that you create ?
[06:49] <Salgat> thank you
[06:49] <Warbo> (and f2, f3, etc.)
[06:49] <inv_Arp> Salgat: hence the term console...
[06:49] <rast4_> inv_arp: hang on let me figure it out, I know the NIC is a Realtek and there is a Wireless adapter as well
[06:49] <rast4_> minipcu
[06:49] <Salgat> hehe
[06:49] <rast4_> pci*
[06:49] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: that will cover all IPs that start with 192.168 (which is a normal range)
[06:49] <omnid> I don't know what most of my hardware is and since it's a laptop I can't do much to change that. It rather sucks I probably have an unsupported radeon mobile
[06:49] <inv_Arp> rast4_: lspci
[06:50] <ubuntu> Salgat: yw
[06:50] <adam__> hi, I have installed wine and am trying to install my fathers software and it requires MSIE v4 or better, I can't seem to find Internet Explorer in Synaptic, does it exist?
[06:50] <inv_Arp> GoonSquad: yes...
[06:50] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Yeah, that the range that my DHCP server is using
[06:50] <GoonSquad> inv_Arp how
[06:50] <Warbo> omnid: I have a Radeon 9200, but the 3D driver only does 3D, not transparency. That means Mesa does all of the fading and stuff, which is awful
[06:50] <inv_Arp> adam__: no.. not in synaptic
[06:50] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: Have you got any better ideas of locating a rouge switch that has got a telnet server running?
[06:50] <ubuntu> adam__:  lol u wont find IE on synaptic dude
[06:50] <ubuntu> chk microsoft site
[06:50] <inv_Arp> sine IE is not a linux app!!
[06:50] <omnid> Warbo: Mesa?
[06:50] <case`> inv_Arp: thanks for the ez-ipupdate advice. All you have to do is add more .conf files to /etc/ez-ipupdate and /etc/init.d/ez-ipupdate picks them up and spawns a daemon for each one --- Thanks again.
[06:50] <omnid> !mesa > omnid
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <ubuntu> BlueEagle:  hit the telnet port 23
[06:51] <inv_Arp> GoonSquad: usermod
[06:51] <GoonSquad> inv_Arp how
[06:51] <omnid> bleh nothing on mesa
[06:51] <BlueEagle> ubuntu: ofcourse
[06:51] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: my bad.
[06:51] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, No, I should have cought that too
[06:51] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: stop that search and change -p 21 to -p 23
[06:51] <BlueEagle> :)
[06:51] <Warbo> omnid: Mesa is an entire implementation of OpenGL which is built out of software. It means that if your graphics card doesn't support a certain feature then Mesa will do it with your CPU, but it is much slower
[06:51] <adam__> ok guys, is it possible to get IE on my ubuntu box for my windows app that needs to interface with it?
[06:51] <inv_Arp> adam__: get crossover office...
[06:51] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: well it's 6:52 am here and I've yet to sleep so I'm excused. :p
[06:51] <omnid> Warbo: Oh yeah that sounds like it would kill my PC
[06:51] <Warbo> adam__: Look for "ies4linux"
[06:52] <omnid> Considering all 3D acceleration seems absent
[06:52] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: about those connectors on the serial cable. Are they openable?
[06:52] <Warbo> omnid: Have you tried a 3D driver?
[06:52] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Well, it's 23:51 here, and I've had about 2 hours sleep in the last 20 or so
[06:52] <omnid> I can't find any for Linux on Radeon's site
[06:52] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: if so you might want to search for null modem cable and attempt to modify it. :)
[06:52] <nopcode> i hope this "update-manager" thing doesnt need X...
[06:52] <omnid> ATI's
[06:52] <omnid> I know they don't really support Linux as much as Nvidia...
[06:52] <Salgat> Ya
[06:53] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Well, I can remove the RJ45 patch cable and stick in a crossover cable, but I don't know if that will swap the right pins or not
[06:53] <Warbo> omnid: They come with Ubuntu. There are 3 drivers: "ati" which is 2D, "radeon" which is 3D on some cards (like mine) and "fglrx" which is made by ATI and is non-free, but gives 3D on newer cards (but not old ones)
[06:53] <TheGame> i just wanna know how to use nzb's in pan
[06:53] <rast4_> inv_arp: waiting on HP.com to respond so I can get the exact adapter models
[06:53] <rast4_> bare with me please
[06:53] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: null modem cables are very often called cross over cables.
[06:53] <inv_Arp> rast4_: lspci
[06:53] <`m0> hmmm
[06:54] <ubuntu> well later guys
[06:54] <ubuntu> tc all
[06:54] <Salgat> later Ubuntu!!
[06:54] <`m0> I think I saw a small minor BUG
[06:54] <ubuntu> Salgat:  laters
[06:54] <`m0> When you goto Power Management!
[06:54] <jbroome> err, cross over cables are different than null modem cables.. They're also called Console cables
[06:54] <inv_Arp> TheGame: no dont think so
[06:54] <`m0> You see <b> Running on AC </b>
[06:54] <omnid> Warbo: Well I definitly wish to have 3D acceleration so I can create some models and see all those pretty screensavers at the least
[06:54] <`m0> why does it display <b> :p
[06:54] <BlueEagle> jbroome: Ehh.. you might be right.
[06:54] <BlueEagle> my bad again.
[06:54] <jbroome> :P
[06:55] <BlueEagle> Perhaps I should find that bed?
[06:55] <jbroome> i'm headed that way too
[06:55] <rast4_> inv_arp: could you elaborate on 'lspci' please?
[06:55] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Well, thanks for your help so far...
[06:55] <inv_Arp> it will display the card
[06:55] <phiber_optic> can somebody please help me configure my sound
[06:55] <rast4_> oh :)
[06:55] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: do you have the drivers
[06:55] <phiber_optic> inv_Arp,  in breeze it detected automatically
[06:56] <phiber_optic> and know its not working
[06:56] <kevinh90> rast4_,  "sudo lspci" it tells you about all your hardware
[06:56] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: what type of card?
[06:56] <phiber_optic> soundblaster
[06:56] <shaigirl> hi guys
[06:56] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: if you don't find anyting on <IP_ADDRESS>/16 you could try <IP_ADDRESS>/8 (will take very very much longer)
[06:56] <phiber_optic> 5.1 live
[06:56] <shaigirl> where can i learn about commands and stuff for ubuntu?
[06:56] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Ok, I may start that one before I go to bed myself
[06:57] <Goblyn> i don't wanna sound vague, but my firefox is going very very slow, i have godly internet, but i dunno why it's going slow, any idea's
[06:57] <rast4_> inv_arp: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ and Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless
[06:57] <GoonSquad> is there a way to set a default home folder for all users that you create ?
[06:57] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: or you can try <IP_ADDRESS>/1 which will scan half the internet (<IP_ADDRESS>/1 will scan the other half afaik)
[06:57] <inv_Arp> rast4_: the realtek doesnt work?
[06:57] <Nukez> hi
[06:57] <rast4_> no, I can't even get the "configure" tab to work, it's greyed out
[06:58] <rast4_> it won't let me switch to that adapter
[06:58] <inv_Arp> GoonSquad: told ya    usemod username -d /directory
[06:58] <Salgat> I personally have found Rute of being useful for learning commands on Linux in general Shaigirl, if you search for it in Google you'll find it, may be somewhat dated though
[06:58] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, I think I'll avoid that...If it's getting an address from my DHCP server, it'll be under the <IP_ADDRESS>/16 scan
[06:58] <GoonSquad> inv_Arp i want it to set all the users that i create to that i dont want to have to manually type that for every user
[06:58] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: Well the switch has probably got its ip configured.
[06:58] <inv_Arp> rast4_: open a console.. type ifconfig
[06:58] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: isn't it labled behind on the switch?
[06:58] <shaigirl> ty salgat
[06:59] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: I think I saw that on the picture. Should be on the back.
[06:59] <flipfone> hi i installed xubuntu and was modding the taskbar when i deleted it. i tried removing xubuntu and reinstalling but the bar isnt there. is there an easy way to get it back?
[06:59] <shaigirl> is it me or is ubuntu way easier than Suse???
[06:59] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: it might be the mac address tho.
[06:59] <phiber_optic> inv_Arp, any ideas??
[06:59] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, That could be as well, I wish I could just wipe it's whole config and start over, but apparently I need to have console access for that
[06:59] <Nukez> hey I was wondering... I am trying to install Ubuntu and when the cd boots and tries to install the graphical installer isnt displayed... is there any way to get around this?
[06:59] <flipfone> shaigirl Ubuntu ROCKS!
[06:59] <Salgat> Seems like Ubuntu is the ultimate in easyness hehe
[06:59] <shaigirl> i've had suse 9.0 since 2004 and I couldn't do a thing with it
[06:59] <`m0> hmm
[06:59] <rast4_> inv_arp: shows eth0 and lo
[06:59] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: hold reset for 30 seconds to clear it I think I read somwhere.
[07:00] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Nope, no IP address on it anywhere...but yes, the MAC address should be there
[07:00] <`m0> how cna I get the LAptop Batter Monitor for Ubuntu ?
[07:00] <inv_Arp> GoonSquad: /etc/profile     export $HOME=/dir
[07:00] <`m0> I don't know how much battery I have left
[07:00] <rast4_> inv_arp: has inet6 addr
[07:00] <`m0> ah Never mind
[07:00] <inv_Arp> err export HOME=/dir
[07:00] <vignatti_> hi guys
[07:00] <vignatti_> how can I tell to kernel don't load a module by default?
[07:01] <Jbirk> lsmod
[07:01] <pollypocket> ok so firefox on wine doesnt seem to run. I changed the ownership on the firefox-desktop-icon to my regular user and all the permissions of the wine-firefox install appear to be world readable or executable but all owned by root. what am i missing here
[07:01] <vignatti_> Jbirk: lsmod?
[07:01] <phiber_optic> inv_Arp, any ideas??
[07:01] <Jbirk> It will list the modules
[07:01] <Jbirk> you will have to manually change them
[07:01] <Jbirk> I am not certain how to prevent a mod from loading
[07:01] <rast4_> inv_arp: this is odd too, same lan hardware on my Toshiba Satellite I believe and both that and my wireless worked out of the box, but not on this HP
[07:01] <inv_Arp> vignatti_:  when you compile it...  remove  loadable kernel module or somethin like that
[07:02] <Goblyn> i don't wanna sound vague, but my firefox is going very very slow, i have godly internet, but i dunno why it's going slow, any idea's?
[07:02] <tritium> vignatti_: blacklist it
[07:02] <shaigirl> i found a wiki to help with that rast4
[07:02] <rast4_> shaigirl: please share :)
[07:02] <shaigirl> let me get it
[07:02] <vignatti_> tritium: where can I blacklist?
[07:02] <rast4_> I love this laptop, it's the 17" widescreen
[07:02] <tritium> vignatti_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is the file
[07:02] <rast4_> I would love to rock ubuntu on it
[07:02] <vignatti_> tritium: tkx!
[07:02] <`m0> how do we learn about the tricks in ubuntu ?
[07:03] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: modprobe emu10k1
[07:03] <`m0> are there like mac tricks?
[07:03] <phiber_optic> inv_Arp,  thats what i did
[07:03] <vignatti_> tks guys! blacklist solve my prob
[07:03] <GoonSquad> is there a way to set a default home folder for all users that you create ?
[07:03] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: and what happened?
[07:03] <GoonSquad> inv_Arp the way you just told me doesnt work
[07:03] <Nukez> is there a way to use the old text based installer for dapper
[07:03] <phiber_optic> FATAL: Module emu10k1 not found.
[07:03] <rast4_> inv_arp: so with the ifconfig, it shows the eth0, does that mean it's working properly or that it's properly configured?
[07:03] <pollypocket> GoonSquad: each user needs their own seperate home directory
[07:04] <`m0> Can I Remote Desktop in WIndows?
[07:04] <chungaroo> is there any way i can image my hard drive onto another hd in order to retain the os, all of my settings, and my data? i plan on upgrading my harddrive to a larger capacity and don't want to reinstall and burn endless amounts of backup data disks.
[07:04] <inv_Arp> rast4_: means the kernel dtects it... does it have an ip?
[07:04] <Jbirk> modprobe loads a module
[07:04] <Jbirk> how do you unload a module?
[07:04] <rast4_> inv_arp: just the inet6 addr
[07:04] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: hmmm, wierd   did you chge anything?
[07:04] <shaigirl> ok..this is the addy...http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[07:05] <phiber_optic> noop
[07:05] <shaigirl> you have to install ndiswrapper
[07:05] <Goblyn> i am having errors trying to get sound working under Wine, whenever i go to the audio tab to change settings, it comes up with Creating link "/home/goblyn/.kde/socket-system." "can't create mcop directory" does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:05] <inv_Arp> phiber_optic: fresh install?
[07:05] <pollypocket> ive never done this wine thing before - i need some pointers on what to do with the firefox I just installed
[07:05] <rast4_> thanks shaigirl
[07:05] <phiber_optic> yes
[07:05] <chungaroo> is anyone familiar with drive cloning/imaging?
[07:05] <rast4_> I had mad probs with ndiswrapper when it first came out, I hope it's simplified
[07:05] <phiber_optic> ill reinstall everything again if you want
[07:05] <shaigirl> oh wait rast
[07:05] <Warbo> pollypocket: It is installed into $HOME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Mozilla Firefox
[07:05] <shaigirl> let me find the other one
[07:05] <Nukez> Does anyone know if dapper has trouble with ati x800 video cards?
[07:05] <rast4_> ok
[07:06] <_tcc> Why might my sound just have dissapeared out of the blue?
[07:06] <_tcc> I have no audio.
[07:06] <inv_Arp> rast4_: you dont need ndis wrapper for the intel wireles card
[07:06] <_tcc> VLC crashes when I try and play music.
[07:06] <rast4_> inv_arp: what would you recommend I do at this stage?
[07:06] <tritium> rast4_: ipw2x00?  no need for ndiswrapper
[07:06] <Warbo> _tcc: Maybe something is hogging the soundcard? (like a Flash website)
[07:06] <rast4_> tritium: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ and Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless
[07:06] <inv_Arp> rast4_: ahh wait i scrolled up... you have broadcom...
[07:06] <_tcc> Warbo, nope
[07:07] <tritium> rast4_: ah
[07:07] <_tcc> It worked before, I install mplayer and now everything went nuts.
[07:07] <`m0> hey
[07:07] <shaigirl> i had an easier fix
[07:07] <shaigirl> i have to find it now
[07:07] <inv_Arp> rast4_: i would google search first make sure there arent any native drivers...
[07:07] <`m0> how do I access REmote Desktop from Windows within Linux
[07:07] <inv_Arp> before using ndiswrapper
[07:07] <`m0> I want to remote to my windows BOX
[07:07] <_tcc> rdesktop
[07:07] <`m0> is it included ?
[07:07] <rast4_> ok, I will wait to see what shaigirl comes up with
[07:07] <_tcc> rdesktop -5 <ip>
[07:07] <`m0> hmm ok
[07:07] <rast4_> then start from there, thanks for the help inv_arp
[07:07] <`m0> thanks
[07:07] <_tcc> yepper
[07:08] <Goblyn> i am having errors trying to get sound working under Wine, whenever i go to the audio tab to change settings, it comes up with Creating link "/home/goblyn/.kde/socket-system." "can't create mcop directory" does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:08] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: arp -s myswitch MAC-ADDRESS && ping myswitc
[07:08] <rast4_> you multitasking helpin fool ;)
[07:08] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: try that but substitute MAC-ADDRESS with the printed mac address on your switch.
[07:08] <rast4_> this is probably the most helpful channel I've ever been on in irc, and i've been around for eons
[07:08] <pollypocket> Warbo: ok so I go to that directory and and double click on firefox.exe and i get an error
[07:08] <rast4_> honestly
[07:09] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Lemme run downstairs and get the MAC
[07:09] <omnid> Warbo: So, I looked up that driver. How would I install it? I'm not sure I can tell which device in the device manger is my video card
[07:09] <pollypocket> Couldn't display "/home/grace/.wine/drive_c/Pr...s/Mozilla Firefox/firefox.exe".
[07:09] <_tcc> So why might sound fail randomly?
[07:09] <inv_Arp> GoonSquad: it should have... did you relogin completely?
[07:09] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: should be something like: arp -s myswitch 00:0E:50:33:08:C7 && ping myswitch
[07:10] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: ofcourse your mac addy will be different.
[07:10] <AmirMohammad> something has gone wrong w/ my keyboard settings and I dunno what's that, sometimes it get crazy, when I press 'p' it'll print 6 or something like this
[07:10] <flasher> what's a movie file format that can be easily played/viewed without too many  extra codecs?
[07:10] <AmirMohammad> I should to switch to a terminal and then come-back to X to get it working properly
[07:10] <Warbo> omnid: Look on help.ubuntu.com/community. There is a page about the non-free driver and a page I wrote about the free driver. The free one is called "RadeonDriver" and the non-free one is.....
[07:11] <Warbo> !ati > omnid
[07:11] <BlueEagle> flasher: any one format really only needs one codec (the codec for that format)
[07:11] <omnid> Oh allright
[07:11] <omnid> I'll check it out
[07:11] <Warbo> pollypocket: Try copy/pasting this into a terminal "wine C:\\Program\ Files\\Mozilla\ Firefox\\firefox.exe"
[07:12] <Warbo> flasher: Ogg/Theora works out of the box
[07:12] <flasher> BlueEagle: i ask because i'm having a hard time viewing avi files, even though i've installed mplayer and win32codecs. I'm planning on converting some avi files to a format my computer can play
[07:12] <william__> im having troubles deleting a folder
[07:12] <flasher> Warbo: is there a way to convert an AVI to ogg/theora?
[07:12] <Warbo> !info ffmpeg2theora
[07:12] <ubotu> ffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-1 (dapper), package size 1228 kB, installed size 3136 kB
[07:12] <flasher> Warbo: thanks
[07:12] <BlueEagle> flasher: ...and which error are you getting?
[07:13] <flasher> BlueEagle: hold on
[07:13] <flasher> BlueEagle: i'll put on pastebin
[07:13] <pollypocket> err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59} could be created for for context 0x1
[07:13] <pollypocket> fixme:ole:CoCreateInstance no classfactory created for CLSID {4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59}, hres is 0x80040154
[07:13] <pollypocket> fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_BitBlt potential optimization - client-side DIB copy
[07:13] <_tcc> Can someone help me debug this problem?
[07:13] <BlueEagle> flasher: iirc mplayer (not gmplayer) spits out loads of useful stuff.
[07:13] <_tcc> My sound failed randomly.
[07:13] <capiCrimm> what can I use to compare two folder structures(i.e. see what files are missing)?
[07:13] <william__> i tried rm -d /directory but it keeps saying its a directory :S
[07:13] <_tcc> fr
[07:13] <flasher> BlueEagle: spit? you mean the error messages?
[07:13] <inv_Arp> william__: rm -rf /dir
[07:13] <rast4_> inv_arp: if it recognizes it in ifconfig, how come I can't change the connection in the connection properties window on my taskbar
[07:13] <BlueEagle> flasher: yes. I mean spit as in print
[07:13] <Warbo> flasher: In order for ffmpeg2theora to work it must be able to play the file. I know that ffmpeg is made by the MPlayer guys, so you may be better off focusing on getting MPlayer working
[07:14] <Warbo> william__: "rm -r directory"
[07:14] <shaigirl> this is the easy link rast
[07:14] <shaigirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=ndiswrapper
[07:14] <william__> inv_Arp, thank you!
[07:14] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, I get: myswitch: No address associated with name
[07:14] <shaigirl> it is made for broadcom
[07:14] <rast4_> ahh thank you
[07:14] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: dang.
[07:14] <flasher> Warbo: can i aske you a favor and convert some (3 tiny files) into ogg/theora, please?
[07:14] <rast4_> I need to work on getting the Realtek too
[07:14] <_tcc> Sound please.......
[07:14] <Warbo> william__: -r = recursive (go into each directory you find and remove the stuff that is there until it is all gone)
[07:14] <BlueEagle> drbanzai: what does arp -a say about myswitch?
[07:14] <_tcc> Something is wrong.
[07:14] <rast4_> which is puzzling, that usually has support from everything
[07:14] <rast4_> :(
[07:14] <Warbo> flasher: I don't want no child porn
[07:14] <rast4_> nevertheless, thanks for the link
[07:14] <Johnny> how can i change a mounted windows partition so i can write to it?
[07:15] <flasher> Warbo: no it isn't.
[07:15] <DrBanzai> BlueEagle, Same thing
[07:15] <flasher> BlueEagle:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20836
[07:15] <Warbo> flasher: If you upload it somewhere then I'll have a go
[07:15] <inv_Arp> capiCrimm:  diff /dir1   /dir2
[07:15] <flasher> Warbo: thank you. they're actualy on a sit
[07:15] <flasher> site
[07:15] <flasher> hold on.
[07:15] <shaigirl> yw rast
[07:15] <inv_Arp> Johnny: cant write to ntfs
[07:15] <flasher> Warbo: first one is http://coachesinfo.com/movies/articles/waterpolo/wpfv2.avi
[07:15] <inv_Arp> johnlittle: need special driver
[07:16] <flasher> Warbo: 2nd http://coachesinfo.com/movies/articles/waterpolo/wpsv2.avi
[07:16] <Johnny> i thought you could make it so you could delete files from linux on a windows partition
[07:16] <pollypocket> so a browser window still opens but it is running as root