[13:26] <puser> VCoolio, artus: weird, I had to uncheck auto_raise, restart metacity, check auto_raise again and restart metacity again in order to make windows normally selectable again. I thought, if one checkbox is checked, than it's checked, but not just showing that it's checke. This problem reminds me of windows problems.
[13:26] <ae86-drifter> ori, type gksu google-chrome
[13:26] <fasta> tarzeau, it depends on how you define "broken". I did not do anything physically abusive to it and when it works it works great. It is just that for whatever reason it sometimes just stops. After a switch to console and back it works about 1 in 3 times again for a long time after.
[13:26] <Pici> ankur: Not the floodbot. ubottu gave you two links about the kernel, did you read them?
[13:26] <puser> what does composing_manager option in metacity means?
[13:26] <ae86-drifter> ori, if u got the firefox plugin that should work for chrome i think.. not sure though
[13:27] <tarzeau> fasta: that's funny yes, i'd call that totter contact
[13:27] <Shazbot|busy> eremite, and how would I fix that?
[13:27] <grobda24> tarzeau, thanks. I was trying to package with checkinstall but tv_grab_dvb does not have a "install" entry in it's makefile which checkinstall requires
[13:27] <tarzeau> loose connection. sorry google translations sucks "wackelkontakt" is the german word for it
[13:27] <Shazbot|busy> I have flash plugin
[13:27] <tarzeau> grobda24: then you write a install target :)
[13:27] <Shazbot|busy> server smash!
[13:28] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: in the right place? opt/google/chrome/plugins?
[13:28] <grobda24> tarzeau, is that easy ?
[13:28] <VCoolio> puser: sorry, wasn't paying attention; most of the time it works straight away; sometimes logout and back in is needed; reboot very rarely
[13:28] <tarzeau> grobda24: yes i think so
 how do i run the java plugin now?
[13:28] <grobda24> tarzeau, ok, thanks
[13:28] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, I wasn't aware I was supposed to install one per browser
[13:28] <sara1> brlcad is 3d?
[13:28] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: neither was i
[13:28] <tarzeau> sara1: yes
[13:28] <eremite> Pici, is there any way to ignore the floodbots?  Or perhaps a way to hide the messages of people leaving and entering the room, other than setting text colors to match the background?  All suggestions welcome.
[13:28] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, there is no 'plugin' folder in /opt/google/chrome
[13:29] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: yes that's why you create a plugins directory
[13:29] <ae86-drifter> ori, goto chrome's settings....
[13:29] <fasta> tarzeau,  what is totter contact?
[13:29] <Pici> eremite: Some irc clients can setup ignores for joins/parts/quits
[13:29] <ankur> pici: i will try those thing...thanx for your help... :)
[13:29] <puser> VCoolio: no, what I mean is that I had that option already checked. and it was not working, so I had to uncheck and check it again in order to make it to work with restart inbetween.
[13:29] <ankur> byr
 lol where?
[13:29] <ankur> bye
[13:29] <F5> hi
[13:29] <tarzeau> fasta: a loose contact, switching between contact no-contact
[13:29] <F5> how are?
[13:30] <tripppy> NBR support
[13:30] <tripppy> ?
[13:30] <Arabus> Hey, small question. is there a package for the openssl update from the 25.Feb for ubuntu yet? (The one that enables the TLS-renegotiation )
[13:30] <puser> what does composing_manager option in metacity means?
[13:30] <sara1> tanks
[13:30] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, okay, it's created, now how would I install flash plugin to that perticular directory?
[13:30] <fasta> tarzeau, yes, there are usually fluctuations when I move the laptop.
[13:30] <eremite> Pici, I use xchat, weechat and irssi but mainly stick to the GUI.  Do either of those, to the best of your knowledge, ignore joins?
[13:30] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: you download the flash plugin, it's one file (unpack it) and put it right into that directory
[13:30] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: start google chrome, and it does youtube
[13:30] <fasta> tarzeau, is there any usual suspect in that case?
[13:30] <Pici> !quietirssi | eremite
[13:30] <sara1> what chanell irc for civil engineering?
[13:31] <bazhang> eremite, right click channel name in xchat
[13:31] <tarzeau> fasta: no, it's a state quite some devices have
[13:31] <Pici> eremite: xchat can do it too, but I forget how.
[13:31] <tarzeau> fasta: if the thing has warranty, try to get a replacement
[13:31] <tarzeau> fasta: some people can fix it. i'm not one of those
[13:32] <vivid> go comcast go
[13:32] <fasta> tarzeau, I have warranty, but not in this country, which is more than annoying.
[13:32] <ae86-drifter> would a virtual machine on ubuntu play games allright? i have 6GB RAM to spare
[13:32] <tarzeau> fasta: which country are you in? and where's the screen from?
[13:32] <fasta> tarzeau, France, Netherlands.
[13:32] <tarzeau> ae86-drifter: depends on the sort of game? nethack sure. 3d games. not likely
[13:33] <tarzeau> fasta: i guess getting a new screen is cheaper :)
[13:33] <ae86-drifter> tarzeau, they would be the latest 3d games
[13:33] <fasta> tarzeau, so can you just buy any new screen of the right dimensions?
[13:33] <rsk> ae86-drifter then no
[13:33] <D00msday> Hi, anyone know where I can got to get some help installing xbmc on unbuntu 9.04 ?
[13:33] <rsk> ae86-drifter wine is a better choise
[13:33] <fasta> tarzeau, or are there a million standards for that too?
[13:34] <k0ala> how to install jre on ubuntu 9.10?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> !java
[13:34] <ae86-drifter> rsk, some games dont work for me..
[13:34] <fasta> tarzeau,  I did already read how to remove the screen on some website.
[13:34] <tarzeau> fasta: depends on the cable connectors you have. any should do fine, i'd try to get a larger one
[13:34] <k0ala> !Multiverse repository
[13:34] <fasta> tarzeau, the cable connectors you are talking about are normally invisible right, unless you take the machine apart.
[13:34] <fasta> ?
[13:34] <tarzeau> fasta: laptop?
[13:34] <Pici> !multiverse | k0ala
[13:34] <fasta> tarzeau, yes, laptop.
[13:35] <tarzeau> fasta: oh sucks :)
[13:35] <tarzeau> fasta: get a new laptop then
[13:35] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, how do I unpack and put it into a directory from cli? "sudo tar xvjf <package> /opt/google/chrome/plugins" ?
[13:35] <fasta> tarzeau, replacement screens do exist.
[13:35] <k0ala> thanks all
[13:35] <coolmadmax> fasta why not check power management and see display options
[13:35] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: no, put the package into /opt/google/chrome/plugins, cd there
[13:35] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: then sudo tar xzf the.tar.gz
[13:35] <fasta> coolmadmax, I did already do that, as any rational person would have done.
[13:36] <tarzeau> fasta: then good luck replacing it. i got no idea
[13:36] <fasta> tarzeau, ok. Desktops are so much nicer. At least you can open them up with 6 screws or less.
[13:36] <tarzeau> i wonder why people use google-chrome, if there's chromium-browser (it's in lucid lynx now)
[13:36] <tarzeau> fasta: i agree, but you can't carry them around
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> I found google-chrome worked better.
[13:37] <tarzeau> i wish chromium run on non-x86
[13:37] <tarzeau> Dr_Willis: really? i didn't notice a different
[13:37] <fasta> tarzeau, I do like how quiet the machine is compared to the monster desktops.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> tarzeau:  its been a month+ since ive last tried the 2.. so there may be improvements now.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> tarzeau:  ive basically gone back to firefox now
[13:37] <tarzeau> Dr_Willis: how so?
[13:37] <fasta> tarzeau, anyway, IMHO, they should last at least 10 years.
[13:37] <eremite> Dr_Willis, I was urprised to notice Chrome was faster than all other browsers for me, and it passed the Acid tests better than all except Midori, I think.
[13:37] <fasta> tarzeau, but they are designed to fail :(
[13:38] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, done, it didn't work
[13:38] <HypothesisFrog> There we go. A connection to an invalid IP address http://i40.tinypic.com/famvxy.jpg
[13:38] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: the package is .tar.gz ? or what?
[13:38] <fasta> Is there even a vendor who sells machines with a 5 year warranty on all of the components?
[13:38] <fasta> (laptops)
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  if they do..they proberly charge extra.
[13:39] <tarzeau> fasta: they exist, with the extra charge
[13:39] <fasta> Dr_Willis, yes, they will just compute the probability of it breaking.
[13:39] <dabaR> What's the deal with httpd.conf vs. apache2.conf in /etc/apache2?
[13:39] <fasta> Dr_Willis, and not actually create a better product.
[13:39] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, the package was tar.gz, I moved it to /opt/google/chrome/plugins, then I did "sudo tar xzf <package>" then libflashplayer.so came out, and is now in /opt/google/chrome/plugins, and then restarted chrome...and it doesn't work
[13:40] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: that's very strange
[13:40] <puser> What's wrong with my network manager applet (nm-applet)? It's icon doesn't appear in notification area, but I can see nm-manager running in the task bar and it's baloons are coming from the notification area. When I precizely click correctly on an empty space of notification area to where the baloons are coming out and get network manager's menu, I am able to connect to the internet. When...
[13:40] <puser> ...it's connecting and when it get connected, it displays icon in notification area. As soon as I disconnect, the icon disappears and I have to pixel hunt with the mouse on the notification area to get the network manager's menu opened again in order to be able to connect to the internet again.
[13:40] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: you got 32 or 64bit linux?
[13:40] <Shazbot|busy> 64
[13:40] <Shazbot|busy> D:
[13:40] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: oh :) no wonder
[13:40] <IMoM> GM all, is there a channel to assist with Ubuntu kernel config/compile issues?
[13:40] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: did you get the right libflashplayer.so, the one for 64-bit linux?
[13:40] <Shazbot|busy> how I fix then?
[13:41] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: you get the right flashplayer so
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> crap
[13:41] <john> tarzeau: 64 bit flash works here. also on chrome
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> I don't know
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> sorry for language
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> wait, i thought there wasn't a 64 bit version
[13:41] <tarzeau> john: with the 32bit plugin? never worked for me (needs the 32bit compat libs installed i guess)
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> inform me plz
[13:41] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: there is!
[13:41] <marcus_> hi all. has debconf-get-selections been replaced by debconf-show?
[13:41] <eremite> Shazbot|busy, downoad Adobe Flash plugins via Syaptic insted of from the Adobe wbsite.  Worked for me afew days go.
[13:41] <john> tarzeau: hm, can't remember you could be right
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> eremite, like "adobe-flashplugin" ?
[13:41] <Shazbot|busy> I have that...
[13:42] <Shazbot|busy> have had that
[13:42] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy, john: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
[13:42] <sara1> what cap for linux?
[13:42] <eremite> Shazbot|busy, just search for adobe and look for the packages that loo like te flash packages.  Should be called something like adobe-flash-plugin or close to that name.
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> lol
[13:43] <sara1> what software sap for linux?
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, page isn't loading :?
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> :/*
[13:43] <tarzeau> Shazbot|busy: works fine here. are you in singapore?
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> lol no
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> I'm in the US
[13:43] <tarzeau> dunno maybe it's some weapon export regulation, they can't deliver it to your country
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> I went to just labs.adobe.com and it's not torking
[13:43] <Shazbot|busy> working*
[13:44] <eremite> lol, flash doesnt work in singapore?  I'd love to hear that.
[13:44] <wazzaaaaa> sara1 , you want to ger sap working on ubuntu?
[13:44] <eremite> Shazbot|busy, which browser,have you restared the browser?  Have you installed the latest ubuntu updates?
[13:44] <Shazbot|busy>  just REALLY slow: 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=102 ms
[13:44] <Shazbot|busy> eremite, chrome, yes, yes
[13:45] <saganbyte> ANy idea what is the command for installing language packs on 804 lts?
[13:45] <sara1> yes
[13:45] <sara1> wazzaaaaa:yes
[13:45] <Shazbot|busy> oh
[13:45] <Shazbot|busy> girlfriend is hogging bandwidth
[13:45] <k0ala> 7900 byets/sec -> download speed.. something wrong?
[13:46] <wazzaaaaa> sara1, try this url "http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-basis/sap-installation-on-ubuntu-linux-2340779"
[13:46] <sCOTTo> hey guys - I am about to install Ubuntu Server - what does Enterprise Cloud do differently to normal Ubuntu Server ?
[13:47] <eniacpx> What IRC client does everyone here use?
[13:47] <user32_> mirc ofc
[13:47] <sCOTTo> x-chat for OSX ;)
[13:47] <wazzaaaaa> sara1, sorry that url dosent say much
[13:47] <user32_> mirc > *
[13:47] <ProfessorBacon> haha
[13:47] <ProfessorBacon> mirc
[13:47] <wazzaaaaa> ! info sap
[13:47] <eremite> eniacpx, xchat, weechant and irssi
[13:47] <IMoM> XChat
[13:47] <ProfessorBacon> irssi here
[13:47] <joe75> colloquy ftw
[13:47] <wazzaaaaa> !sap
[13:47] <erUSUL> !poll
[13:48] <user32_> khaled should port mirc to linux :)
[13:48] <ProfessorBacon> why?
[13:48] <user32_> because it's the best irc client
[13:48] <bazhang> !ot > user32_
[13:48] <ProfessorBacon> uhh .. yeah
[13:48]  * sCOTTo cringes
[13:48] <sCOTTo> so guys - can anyone give me a SIMPLE split between Ubuntu Server and Ubuntu Cloud ?
[13:49] <sCOTTo> I am setting this up as my Office GW & LAMP machine for testing websites...
[13:49] <Shazbot|busy> tarzeau, lol omg, it still doesn't work
[13:49] <Shazbot|busy> dude
[13:49] <Shazbot|busy> I'll figure this out some other time
[13:49] <Shazbot|busy> I have homework to do
[13:49] <eremite> sCOTTo, what do you mean "simple split"
[13:49] <sara1> tanks
[13:49] <kitti> k
[13:49] <sCOTTo> as in a simple set of differences between the two.
[13:49] <sCOTTo> eremite:
[13:49] <sCOTTo> brb
[13:49] <erUSUL> sCOTTo: Ubuntu Cloud has preinstalled the cloud infraestructure of ubuntu (eucalyptus iirc)
[13:50] <erUSUL> ?
[13:50] <farmer1991> are here people dutch?
[13:50] <erUSUL> !nl
[13:50] <bazhang> farmer1991, in #ubuntu-nl
[13:50] <farmer1991> erusul :p
[13:50] <eremite> farmer1991, there is an ubuntu-nl channel\
[13:50] <farmer1991> nederlands ?
[13:50] <puser> why my network manager in notification area doesn't appear until I connect. When I disconnect, it disappears again.
[13:50] <eremite> farmer1991, type /join #ubuntu-nl
[13:51] <eremite> puser, do you need it there if it is not in use?
[13:51] <farmer1991> #ubuntu-nl
[13:51] <eniacpx> farmer1991, /join #ubuntu-nl
[13:51] <eremite> farmer, please type /join before typeing #ubuntu-nl.  You should type    /join #ubuntu-nl
[13:52] <erUSUL> sCOTTo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[13:53] <puser> eremite: yes, it has menu to connect to the internet with my 3G modem. I used to have it there a few days ago, something happened to it. It's not showing up anymore, but the balloons are popping up from it from the notification area. I have to pixel-by-pixel hunt for it int the notification area in order to click the right pixel in order for the menu to come up.
[13:53] <blackxored> hi guys, I'm sick of evolution already it seems, there's a thunderbird couchdb equivalent???
[13:53] <IMoM> is there an Ubuntu kernel config/compile channel?
[13:53] <erUSUL> !compile
[13:53] <erUSUL> !kernel > IMoM
[13:54] <eniacpx> puser: Did you change your icon theme recently?
[13:54] <erUSUL> IMoM: use the ubuntu cnfig file
[13:54] <kitti> ola
[13:54] <eremite> puser, you have been stating problems with Ubuntu for the last 2 days in here.  What did you do to yoru system to make it so screwed up?  You said you were playing with settings.  Suonds like a lot of settings were played with.  Perhaps you should reinstall and start fresh, that way things should work better.
[13:54] <blinkiz> How do I add more iscsi targets (ietd.conf) without having to restart iscsitarget service?
[13:54] <ori> ae86-drifter: hey i did it just by downloading sun java from the software center
[13:54] <puser> puser: yes, I didn't even think about it. :) ...but I don't remember, which one I've had originally.
[13:55] <eniacpx> puser: doesn't matter, just try another one, the icon for the network manager applet probably doesn't exist, or is screwed up in your current theme.
[13:56] <kitti> hello
[13:56] <puser> eniacpx: ok I'll try, thanx
[13:56] <erUSUL> !resetpanel
[13:56] <eniacpx> puser: NP, tell me how it goes.
[13:56] <sCOTTo> erUSUL:   what would make me take Cloud over normal Server ?
[13:57] <kitti> what?
[13:57] <erUSUL> sCOTTo: the desire to run a cloud server ? if you do not know wht you need it for is becouse you do not need it
[13:58] <sCOTTo> lol fair enough
[13:58] <sCOTTo> erUSUL:   I am installing ubuntu as my network Gateway, firewall, LAMP server & ROUTER etc - am I safest using the normal server version ?
[13:58] <kitti> no se hablar ingles
[13:59] <erUSUL> sCOTTo: yes
[13:59] <sCOTTo> thanks :)
[13:59] <erUSUL> !es | kitti
[13:59] <erUSUL> sCOTTo: no problem
[13:59] <sCOTTo> im out now ;)
[13:59]  * vaysu surfing net
[13:59] <IMoM> erUSUL, that will not help for what I require...  I need to prevent the kernel scramming my video chipset on boot
[14:00] <erUSUL> IMoM: but you can use the config as base then only change the one thing that needs changing
[14:00] <erUSUL> IMoM: if not is easy to make a no working kernel
[14:01] <IMoM> erUSUL, I am on my 3rd compile now... changed all parts that look like it could mess my video..  currently took out NLS
[14:02] <erUSUL> IMoM: what is the problem with your video card and why you think a kernel option is the culprit?
[14:02] <wazzaaaaa> is there a persian ubuntu chat room?
[14:03] <IMoM> erUSUL, other kernels, like CentOS default kernel works in RL3 with no problem..
[14:03] <erUSUL> !arabic
[14:03] <IMoM> erUSUL, Ubuntu kernel kicks something before I even  get a login
[14:04] <Gangrel> lucid 10.04 are beta?
[14:04] <erUSUL> IMoM: tried booting withot the quiet and splash kernel options ?
[14:04] <erUSUL> Gangrel: alpah afaik
[14:04] <erUSUL> !lucid | Gangrel
[14:05] <IMoM> erUSUL, yes..  nothing of use..  looks like it is still in initrd, not done a switchroot yet
[14:05] <aorthr33> why does updatedb not work in 9.10?  is it no longer needed?
[14:05] <sipior> !ir > wazzaaaaa
[14:05] <kitti> haw old are yuo?
[14:05] <erUSUL> !doesntwork | aorthr33
[14:05] <IMoM> erUSUL, then my LCD just "whites out"
[14:06] <erUSUL> IMoM: passing a vga= parameter does not help either?
[14:06] <kitti> eeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:06] <aorthr33> doesnt work = -bash: updatedb: command not found
[14:06] <erUSUL> !es | kitti
[14:06] <kitti> baybay
[14:07] <josema> hay algien
[14:07] <kitti> ola
[14:07] <josema> olaaaa
[14:07] <shawn146> hi
[14:07] <sevenseeker> 10.4 isn't recognizing my Dell Inspiron 9300 optical drive (and won't let me eject, 'eject cdrom' hangs): http://paste2.org/p/719967
[14:07] <IMoM> erUSUL, didn't try that...  usually that takes effect earlier...  Worth a shot after the compile is completed..  thanks
[14:07] <josema> solo españoles
[14:07] <shawn146> there we go
[14:07] <Pici> !es | josema
[14:07] <eniacpx> IMoM: Have you tried deleting your xorg.conf file, or simply renaming it? When you do this, Ubuntu will create a default file to use, which may work so you can figure out your issue. I have only been half following your thread so I apologize if this is useless info. I have a white-screen issue with a laptop of mine and this fixed it.
[14:08] <josema> kitty de donde eres
[14:08] <kitti> jeje
[14:08] <shawn146> hello?
[14:08] <erUSUL> aorthr33: in my system updatedb comes from mlocate
[14:08] <erUSUL> !es | kitti josema
[14:08] <kitti> de hello kitti
[14:08] <IMoM> eniacpx, this is even in runlevel 3
[14:08] <sipior> sevenseeker: 10.4 hasn't been released yet. you can try asking in #ubuntu+1
[14:08] <josema> xD
[14:08] <sevenseeker> right, thanks (didn't know there was a dev channel)
[14:08] <erUSUL> !runlevels | IMoM
[14:08] <shawn146> ??
[14:08] <Pici> shawn146: hi
[14:08] <eniacpx> IMoM: Ouch, nevermind. :)
[14:09] <shawn146> hi pici
[14:09] <rabbit1> how to install eclipse-php-galileo-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz + ubuntu
[14:09] <shawn146> i just installed ubuntu on my main computer
[14:09] <IMoM> eniacpx, good thought.. :)
[14:09] <eremite> shawn146, welcome to freedom.
[14:10] <shawn146> freedom?
[14:10] <wazzaaaaa> shawn146, you did well
[14:10] <shawn146> i have used it a little earlier this year
[14:10] <shawn146> lol
[14:10] <eniacpx> Lets not scare him off guys...
[14:10] <shawn146> but reinstalled xp since i was confused
[14:10] <shawn146> then i decided to ome back
[14:10] <stanman246> is it possible to have a 'backup' default gateway?
[14:10] <shawn146> *come
[14:10] <IMoM> reading the responce from ubottu, does that mean there is no CLI only run level?
[14:11] <rabbit1> how to install eclipse-php-galileo-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[14:11] <shawn146> and here i am again with ubuntu ready to learn :D
[14:11] <marcus_> is there an admin specific ubuntu irc channel available?
[14:11] <Chris___> how do I force an fsck on reboot again? "touch /fsck" feels wrong
[14:11] <Evil_Otto> Has anyone here ever set up multiple IPs on an interface on ubuntu from within a virtualbox machine?
[14:11] <shawn146> i am using 9.10
[14:12] <eniacpx> IMoM: Thats what I thought 3 was. Maybe try my suggestion then....
[14:12] <erUSUL> Chris___: is "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[14:12] <eremite> marcus_, why do you need to speak to admins directly?  There should be enough in here to help you.
[14:12] <osmosis> i installed xubuntu-desktop to check it out, then uninstalled. but now im stuck with the xubuntu login screen. how do I put it back to the original ubuntu login screen ?
[14:12] <erUSUL> marcus_: #ubuntu-ops
[14:12] <IMoM> eniacpx, 3 is/should be RL3 in SysV
[14:12] <Chris___> that's it. thanks erUSUL.
[14:12] <marcus_> thanks
[14:12] <erUSUL> IMoM: recovery mode
[14:13] <IMoM> erUSUL, should it be CLI still? no X?
[14:13] <erUSUL> IMoM: and if you want you can modify upstart and init to make a runlevel to suit your needs
[14:13] <haakon87> Well, congratulations shawn146! Welcome to freedom. By freedom we mean the four freedoms, as the FSF originally laid them out over twenty years ago.
[14:13] <erUSUL> IMoM: yes recovery mode is single user mode
[14:14] <shawn146> oh
[14:14] <shawn146> awsome1
[14:14] <shawn146> *!
[14:14] <IMoM> erUSUL, I am so used to using telinit  to bounce between 3 and 5 for testing X configs..  something to play with when I return from work.. thanks chaps
[14:14] <Piranah> Anyone know if there is a way to track a system  event easily ? Last 2 days my ubuntu box has been rebooting at random it seems...
[14:14] <IMoM> gtg, l8r
[14:14] <erUSUL> Piranah: research the system logs
[14:15] <phillw> Piranah: there's a lot of info in /var/logs
[14:15] <shawn146> how long will it be before i master ubuntu like microsoft's systems?
[14:15] <haakon87> That depends on what you mean by "master".
[14:15] <Piranah> erUSUL, Ya im looking int that now... also just loaded Tiger.... last simply shows reboot   system boot  2.6.31-20-generi Tue Mar 16 09:00 - 10:01  (01:00)
[14:15] <phillw> shawn146: possibly never ;-)  They keep adding things :-D
[14:15] <shawn146> oh
[14:15] <haakon87> But if you want to learn, I suggest learning the terminal sometime.
[14:15] <shawn146> but get to know sufficient?
[14:16] <shawn146> and understand lol
[14:16] <eremite> shawn146, I became a typical Ubuntu user after a few weeks.  I could use the terminal and navigate the filesystem with ease after about a month or two.
[14:16] <shawn146> oh wow
[14:16] <shawn146> but at 8: 25 i have to go to school
[14:16] <shawn146> :(
[14:16] <haakon87> Yeah, the filesystem is slightly counterintuitive if you're used to windows. But it's not bad, it's just unusual.
[14:16] <shawn146> and its 8:16
[14:17] <phillw> shawn146: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052065  is a ggod place to start - get the free book !!
[14:17] <wrapsik> Hello, I got ubuntu 9.04. I wanna instal other linux near the ubuntu, can i use ubu. swap on the other linux?
[14:17] <Pici> !ot
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> haakon87:  that imples that windows is 'intuitive' :) heh..
[14:17] <shawn146> oh and i like how ubuntu installs with no problem than micro$oft winblowz
[14:17] <phillw> wrapsik: all linux installs should 'see' a swap area and use it.
[14:18] <haakon87> Windows *is* rather intuitive to you since you've grown used to it. It's not horrible, as such.
[14:18] <shawn146> oh
[14:18] <GUcko> hi guys, I'm facing a problem with my web cam. The picture doesn't appear on 9.10 :(
[14:18] <wrapsik> phillw: thx
[14:18] <GUcko> It works with Crunchbang
[14:18] <Chris___> thanks erUSUL, my bad file sectors are fixed and I'm now happily google chrome'ing again!
[14:18] <GUcko> I can find out what's wrong
[14:18] <shawn146> i g2g
[14:18] <eremite> GUcko, I used to use cheese webcam booth.  Try that app out.
[14:18] <haakon87> Also, shawn146 while none of us are member of the MS fanclub, we do try to write MS and not M$ and so on.
[14:18] <erUSUL> 1yay | Chris___
[14:19] <haakon87> Goodbye, and GL.
[14:19] <erUSUL> !yay | Chris___
[14:19] <GUcko> eremite: cheese webcam?
[14:19] <Chris___> :p
[14:19] <shawn146> ohk lol
[14:19] <shawn146> just a joke from my friends lol
[14:19] <eremite> GUcko, yes.  It's an app in the repos.  Open the Software center and search for cheese.
[14:19] <GUcko> k
[14:19] <haakon87> Yes, but it seems really immature to hate on others in our own rooms. Live and let live, and all that. ;)
[14:20] <puser> eremite: I am fixing and setting up 2 computers. I am a new to linux and to ubuntu in particular. I installed it about 2-3 weeks ago and learning about the system as much as I can. I am against reinstalling the system. I always look for solutions. Is that what you prefer to do when you get a problem, reinstall? What if I do something after reinstall that will create a similar problem? Do you...
[14:20] <puser> ...suggest reinstall again? No, I never reinstalled Windows and never will Linux, especially. I always looked for solutions, that's why I got so good in Windows. I better spend time looking for a solution, then reinstall, that way I kill two ducks with one shot. Learning a solution, when it happens again with me or somebody else and learning a whole bunch about the system that I couldn't of...
[14:20] <puser> ...possibly, without such troubleshooting. PS. No offence, does it bother you that I am here looking for help?
[14:20] <FloodBot4> puser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <shawn146> i will be back in about 4-5 hours
[14:20] <phillw> GUcko: also, there is a list of cams that work happily with ubuntu, I'll dig the link out, if you want.
[14:20] <calebr> Hi, gitk doesn't start and display no errors (even with fresh repo). any ideas why?
[14:20] <GUcko> phillw: please :)
[14:21] <phillw> GUcko: it also has info on getting cams going, when fixes are needed --- give me a cple of minutes.
[14:21] <GUcko> phillw: this webcam works with Crunchbang Linux 9.04
[14:21] <haakon87> puser: Sometimes a reinstall *is* the best solution. After a system have been compromised for instance, it's the only solution.
[14:21] <GUcko> phillw: my cam is A4Tech
[14:21] <GUcko> phillw: ok
[14:21] <rabbit1> how to install eclipse-php-galileo-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz in ubuntu 8.04
[14:21] <haakon87> rabbit1: Why don't you install from the repos?
[14:22] <eniacpx> haakon87: Yes, but in his case it was suggested because he couldn't see the icon for the network manager applet.
[14:22] <eremite> puser, I dont mess up my system much, and if I cannot fix it manually I usually install.  My home folder is not on the same partition as my OS, so I can reinstall without losing data files.  I suggest that you start fresh if you are new to Ubuntu because it may take you forever to actually figure out what you did wrong.  If you feel comfortable trying to fix your system then I suggest you do that, but a fresh install is always a saf
[14:22] <eremite> e way to get things back to default.
[14:22] <rabbit1> haakon87: i did, but dint work fine, with the php plugin
[14:22] <stanman246> is it possible to have a backup default gateway?
[14:22] <haakon87> rabbit1: Well, isn't there a readme in the tarball?
[14:22] <eniacpx> puser: Did the icon suggestion fix the issue?
[14:22] <GUcko> eremite: I tried Cheese. The cam doesn't work :(
[14:23] <rabbit1> haakon87: there is, but very confusing
[14:23] <GUcko> eremite: I see the light on, but the computer doesn't receive any signal
[14:23] <haakon87> does it mention stuff like ./configure, make or make install?
[14:23] <phillw> GUcko: there is a list my manufacturer here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> GUcko:  try some other apps like vlc to access the webcam
[14:23] <rabbit1> haakon87: its straight away going to troubleshooting
[14:24] <phillw> *my == by**
[14:24] <eremite> GUcko, sorry to hear that.  Im not a webcam kind of guy, so I fear I cannot be of service to you.  Ask for help every 10 minutes or so, hopefully someone will be able to assist you soon.
[14:24] <haakon87> Well, can you paste it in pastebin or something?
[14:24] <GUcko> Dr_Willis: vlc for webcam?! How
[14:24] <rabbit1> haakon87: in eclipse folder, there is eclipse (executable file)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> GUcko:  most video players can access a 'video for linux' compatiable device
[14:24] <haakon87> does it run?
[14:24] <chiossif> Hi to all. Has anyone ever used stereo vision with ubuntu? (or any other linux distribution : -) ) - I've been looking for a value for money hardware for a new ubuntu pc. Thank you.
[14:25] <puser> haakon87: I started with DOS, then moved with all versions of Windows ladder. Let's talk about Windows XP, because, I've been with it for about 7-8 years, don't remember exactly. I never reinstalled, not once. I always found a solution even after a compromize. I've learned so much about it's security holes, a few of times, I even wrote my own programs to fight with virus/trojan, hacker...
[14:25] <puser> ...intrusions myself, because antivirus/firewall didn't hold them all and successfully cleaned the system.
[14:25] <rabbit1> haakon87: "The Eclipse executable launcher was unable to locate its companion launcher jar. "
[14:26] <eremite> puser, I'm sorry that it took you 8 years to find Ubuntu.
[14:26] <haakon87> puser: According to MS own security folks, you should reinstall. Considering that you *cannot* trust a compromised system, no matter if it's a *nix or a windows system, you *should* in that case. If it's your own computer, then that's your own choice, but don't claim that it's never the right choice... ;)
[14:27] <haakon87> rabbit1, what java version do you use?
[14:27] <puser> eniacpx: I had to wait for one download to finish in order to test it, because I have to disconnect in order to see, if it worked. So, it will be a few minutes more, before I can tell, if it worked. Thanx
[14:27] <rabbit1> haakon87: god, let me know how to check it
[14:27] <haakon87> java --version
[14:27] <haakon87> in a terminal
[14:28] <charles_> How can I change the system password?
[14:28] <haakon87> Sorry, "java -version"
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> charles_:  what system password?
[14:28] <rabbit1> haakon87: couldn't create java virutal machine
[14:28] <haakon87> too used to GNU tools... :(
[14:28] <rumpsy> charles: ?
[14:28] <marijuana> guys, i install wondershaper but where to find the installation directory?
[14:28] <rumpsy> charles_: are you sure
[14:28] <haakon87> rabbit1: sorry, I meant "java -version" one dash. I'm too used to GNU tools.
[14:28] <rabbit1> haakon87: "1.6.0_0"
[14:28] <eremite> marijuana, /usr/bin/ ?
[14:29] <haakon87> Then I have no clue man. sorry... :(
[14:29] <marijuana> eremite: i dont find wondershaper dir there
[14:29] <Vigo> charles_: System>Users but not the /root, that is not needed.
[14:29] <rabbit1> haakon87: OpenJDK Runtime Environment
[14:29] <rabbit1> haakon87: thats ok
[14:29] <eremite> marijuana, open your serach utility and search for wondershaper :)
[14:29] <chiossif> charles_: System->Admin...->Users and Passwords go and check CAREFULLY first
[14:29] <charles_> I use the same lower case system password on many computers, but on this computer I accidentally had the caplock key on when I installed Unbuntu.
[14:29] <eremite> search**\
[14:29] <erUSUL> marijuana: dpkg -L wondershaper
[14:30] <rabbit1> marijuana is a drug
[14:30] <haakon87> charles_: And that's why my capslock is a Ctrl... That and emacs.
[14:30] <phillw> marijuana: from terminal type locate wondershaper
[14:30] <eremite> marijuana, Places > Search For Files
[14:30] <neocid> Holaaaa
[14:30] <marijuana> ok.. guys i will remove it, and reinstall again..
[14:30] <rumpsy> neocid: halo
[14:30] <marijuana> i will tell you later
[14:30] <charles_> So it's very disconcerting to have to remember to type it UPPERCASE on this computer and lowercase on all others
[14:30] <Vigo> charles_: To access the users and groups, System>Administration>Users and Groups,
[14:30] <chiossif> charles_: so change YOUR password and be sure you have admin rights at your pc
[14:30] <neocid> hi
[14:30] <rumpsy> neocid: hi
[14:31] <haakon87> charles_: use passwd to change your password.
[14:31] <galaxy> how can i compile kernel
[14:31] <puser> eniacpx: oh, wow, thanx a lot!, the icon change worked.
[14:31] <tania> k
[14:31] <neocid> where u from?
[14:31] <neocid> Alguien habla español?
[14:31] <rumpsy> neocid: this is not a offtopic channel
[14:31] <eremite> Any Mozilla nerds in here?  Just wondering... I have 3.6 installed and updates keep suggesting 3.5 updates.  Does this effect my other install?  I dont have 3.5 anymore.
[14:31] <Vigo> !es
[14:31] <GUcko> can sony cybershot cameras work as webcams?
[14:31] <rumpsy> neocid: we can move to offtopic channel
[14:32] <rumpsy> !offtopic
[14:32] <chiossif> eremite: I use Namoroka and I'm ok with all updates
[14:32] <eremite> chiossif, I use that too, but updates even try to install FireFox branding still. LOL\
[14:32] <rumpsy> neocid #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:32] <phillw> eremite how did you install FFox 3.6 ?
[14:32] <Vigo> eremite: Did you do the upgrade and or update?
[14:33]  * vaysu omg its raining heavily
[14:33] <neocid> ty
[14:34] <GUcko> cam still doesn't work
[14:34] <phillw> GUcko: did you have a look at the link I gave you ?
[14:34] <GUcko> phillw: sure. I couldn't find the model
[14:34] <chiossif> Has anyone ever used stereo vision with ubuntu? (or any other linux distribution : -) )
[14:34] <phillw> what is the make / model - I'll go have a look
[14:35] <GUcko> A4Tech PK-720MJ
[14:35] <haakon87> Btw, which video player would you guys recommend? GTK only.
[14:35] <eniacpx> pusr: Good to hear!
[14:35] <GUcko> phillw: what drives me crazy is that it works with CrunchBang Linux out of the box!
[14:35] <Vigo> chiossif: I think that is in the Mediabuntu , let me check.
[14:36] <xass> http://www.ourladyboys.com/
[14:36] <eremite> kick xass please
[14:37] <eremite> OPS please kick xass, spamming pr0n links.
[14:37] <Vigo> chiossof: Srry, is called Mythbuntu, my error
[14:37] <Pici> eremite: please use the !ops trigger next time.
[14:38] <eremite> Sorry Pici.
[14:38] <Vigo> chiossof: http://www.mythbuntu.org/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives
[14:39] <charles_> The System/Users and Groups thing lets me go throught the steps of changing my password, but it doesn't change.  Why?
[14:39] <charles_> Those who said to use passwd: What do you mean? At terminal?
[14:39] <phillw> GUcko: seems popular cam in russian - struggling to find an english language site :-\
[14:39] <rocio> HOLA
[14:39] <llutz> charles_: open terminal and type "passwd <enter>" follow instructions
[14:39] <erUSUL> !es | rocio
[14:39] <llutz> charles_: as user...
[14:40] <rocio> HELLO
[14:40] <rocio> WHAT YOU NAME
[14:40] <Pici> rocio: /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[14:41] <chiossif> Vigo: have you used mythubuntu with stereo imaging?
[14:41] <puser> eremite: :), well, as far as I know, Ubuntu is a lot younger than that, but I've tried different linux distributions ever since 1997, played with them for a few days and then stopped, not because didn't want to, but because of lack of time. I was always sort on time. I am a programmer, where I had to meet my project deadlines as much as I could, so didn't really have much time playing with...
[14:41] <puser> ...it and didn't have time to devote to learn it, but I always liked it :). The only thing that I am sorry about is that I didn't know about linux when I started using computers. My first computer was DOS, on Intell 8080 processor, and by the time, I found out about linux, I was already hooked on DOS/Windows, with a good collection of software/games, money invested in software, and other...
[14:41] <puser> ...reasons: learning other operating system. Time commited to programming projects, etc. Why I moved now finally, and without turning back, because I was sick of Windows for a long time, my bowl of patience just spilled over. Why I didn't move long time ago. Once again, no time to learn, programming projects to turn, etc.
[14:41] <FloodBot4> puser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <karan> hi
[14:42] <karan> is there anyway i can download pc bsd with gnome?
[14:42] <Vigo> chisoif: I used it a little, yes, testing before it became an Official Derivative, di not really get that deep into it, was just common stuff, the Mythbuntu packages can be installed on Ubuntu, test them like that is a wise thing.
[14:43] <usuario_> putones
[14:43] <robert__> hi
[14:43] <usuario_> askrosos
[14:43] <usuario_> ablad en español
[14:44] <robert__> can someone help me with a usb issue please?
[14:44] <usuario_> k me dimces
[14:44] <llutz> karan: "wget ftp://mirrors.isc.org/pub/pcbsd/8.0/amd64/PCBSD8.0-x64-bootonly.iso"
[14:44] <usuario_> tuuu
[14:44] <usuario_> HELLOOO!!!!
[14:44] <charles_> Got it. It seems that the Terminal is the only way to do it. The Gui is an unworkable decoy, IMO. Either by intention or by defect. Problem solved
[14:44] <genii> !es | usuario_
[14:44] <Pici> karan: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[14:45] <usuario_> I'M SCHOOL
[14:45] <karan> i wanna dual boot
[14:45] <robert__> lsusb lists the device but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[14:45] <karan> anywase
[14:45] <usuario_> MY NAME IS CARLAS
 that is pc bsd with gnome?
[14:45] <maxi_> #python
[14:45] <eremite> maxi_, please type /join before the room name.
[14:46] <karan> hello??
[14:46] <llutz> karan: that is netinst, install whatever you want later </ot>
[14:46] <eremite> Hello karan
[14:46] <JOSE-_-JAVIER> HOLA
[14:46] <karan> hi
[14:46] <karan> eremite
[14:46] <bombcm__>  how can i reduce resorce when i open vmware with windows xp on ubuntu 9.1
[14:46] <genii> JOSE-_-JAVIER: English here please
[14:47] <JOSE-_-JAVIER> ME COMP LOS WILIS
[14:47] <GUcko> The cam worked with VLC!!!
[14:47] <eremite> !es JOSE-_-JAVIER
[14:47] <karan> whats netinst?
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> GUcko:  so its a cheese issue. and not a cam/driver issue
[14:47] <Pici> karan: Please use #pcbsd for pcbsd questions, it is not on-topic for this channel.
[14:47] <GUcko> Dr_Willis: but I doesn't work with Skype also
[14:48] <GUcko> Dr_Willis: now it works with Cheese!
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> GUcko:  so its a cheese and skype issue. and not a cam/driver issue
[14:48] <rabbit1> how to install eclipse-php-galileo-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz in ubuntu 8.04?
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> GUcko:  so its a random issue?
[14:48] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: can u help me across?
[14:48] <eremite> GUcko, I never use Skype.  Ever.  The FOSS community needs to come up with a viable alternative to Skype.
[14:48] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  Huh?
[14:48] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: once done with Gucko
[14:49] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: how to install eclipse-php-galileo-SR2-linux-gtk.tar.gz in ubuntu 8.04
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> rabbit1:  state the problem to the channel. see who can help - Ive no idea on anything with php
[14:49] <rabbit1> Dr_Willis: i have extracted the file
[14:49] <eremite> rabbit1, http://johnpaulett.com/2009/06/26/install-eclipse-galileo-3-5-on-ubuntu-jaunty/
[14:49] <marijuana> guys, how to run this command 'sudo wondershaper eth0 500 100' everytime i login ubuntu?
[14:49] <rabbit1> eremite: thx, will check right away
[14:49] <rabbit1> its ok Dr_Will
[14:49] <ppaulhus> Hi. Im having a lot of issues trying to get my ubuntu box with nvidia graphics card to output to my TV in its native resolution of 1366 x 768. Anyone has any suggestions for me? Here's my xorg.conf http://pastie.org/871951 ... the resolution i get for now is 1024x768
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  'login' or 'at boot up' ?
[14:49] <puser> haakon87: I am aware about that they say that :) , I am an MCP and MCSE. But I got so accustomed to fixing windows briches that I learned everything where and how viruses/trojans/root-kits/worms and hackers could get through. and if they did, I saw it right away and removed them from the file system and the registry and replaced just the affected system files with originals without reinstalling th
[14:49] <puser> e whole system.
[14:50] <infecto> marijuana: add to rc.local
[14:50] <marijuana> guys, how to run this command automatically 'sudo wondershaper eth0 500 100' everytime i login ubuntu?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  at boot up => put in rc.local - no sudo needed
[14:50] <bombcm__> rc.local ror -> freeBSD
[14:50] <marijuana> Dr_Willis: how to add  it?
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  look at the file.. its rather straight forwared
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  /etc/rc.locl
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  /etc/rc.local
[14:51] <marijuana> ok wait
[14:51]  * Dr_Willis waits for no one
[14:51] <eremite> Sort of off topic but short and top the point: how do the BSD OS' compare to Ubuntu in regards to usability?  I've always wanted to try out some BSD distros along side Ubuntu and was wondering if the learning curve was as large as I suspect.  All *nix systems should relativly be similar, correct?
[14:52] <theadmin> Any idea whether Compiz runs with KDE?
[14:52] <eremite> theadmin, yes it does
[14:52] <Pici> eremite: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:52] <theadmin> err, oops, i meant to say "with XFCE"
[14:52] <eremite> theadmin, I would assume it does.
[14:53] <eremite> theadmin, it does not jive well with Fluxbox, OpenBox, BlackBox, Icewm ETC.
[14:53] <marijuana> Dr_Willis: i found 'exit 0' in /etc/rc.local
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  did you read the comments? commands go befor the exit 0
[14:53] <theadmin> eremite: icewm? I thought that's a window manager?
[14:54] <bombcm__> i think ubuntu 10.04 work for weather
[14:54] <marijuana> Dr_Willis: i read, but i dont understand... what to do now
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  the commands go in the file.. above the exit 0 statement
[14:54] <rjb> i have a modem huawei e226, if it is inactive for a time i lost connectio, is there any way to
[14:54] <eremite> theadmin, yes, but if you dont have a full environment installed compiz wont work.  Many peopel dont recognize the difference between a full desktop environment and a WM when not familiar with the terms.
[14:54] <rjb> i have a modem huawei e226, if it is inactive for a time i lost connectio, is there any way to improve it?
[14:55] <marijuana> Dr_Willis: OH ic.. so i just type 'sudo wondershaper eth0 500 100' in there?
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> marijuana:  i stated earlier the SUDO is not needed in rc.local
[14:55] <rjb> the worst is that with win7 it works ok
[14:55] <marijuana> Dr_Willis: ok, so just type wondershaper eth0 500 100 rite?
[14:55] <FriedrichMan> hey guys
[14:55] <marijuana> ok
[14:55] <marijuana> thanks alot Dr_Willis
[14:56] <FriedrichMan> got a problem with my netbook keyboard config
[14:57] <rjb> anybody had troubles with huawei e226?
[14:57] <kitti> ola
[14:57] <FriedrichMan> it's an eee and the problem is with the accents....(´ )
[14:58] <FriedrichMan> I have it config on Latin American keyboard
 it's an eee and the problem is with the accents....(´ ) ฒฒ
[14:58] <bombcm__> you need to config legion
[14:58] <kitti> josema estas hay
[14:59] <rocket16> Hello all,
[14:59] <FriedrichMan> yeah,... it doesnt write the accents above the letters but between them
[14:59] <bombcm__> and you need to add your keyboard
[14:59] <bombcm__> aha
[14:59] <FriedrichMan> it's a built in keyboard
[14:59] <rocket16> I need some help about Python,
[14:59] <karan> is opensuse a good distro
[14:59] <karan> cuz i cant take the youtube lagg anymore guyz
[14:59] <kaolbrec> rocket16, try #python ?
[14:59] <rocket16> karan: Yes, but YAST in Open Suse is poor
[15:00] <karan> deos rpm. work?
[15:00] <rocket16> kaolbrec: Ok,
[15:00] <karan> like fedora
[15:00] <kaolbrec> karan, switching to opensuse won't change youtube
[15:00] <karan> why?
[15:00] <kaolbrec> karan, that's down to flash support in linux
[15:00] <rocket16> Ubuntu is better than Open Suse,
[15:00] <karan> but why is it better?
[15:00] <MortarMan> Hi i have p12 autentification file for wifi access, all i need in windows is to use certifikate without passwords etc... but in ubuntu, i dont know what type of encryption, password and other things to write. APPLY button is not clickable. can you help ?
[15:00] <karan> fedora is ugly but was a lot more stable
[15:00] <karan> for me
[15:01] <rocket16> karan: Because of ease of use and better development
[15:01] <p0e> if i want to mount an ISO to install under Wine will any ISO mounter do or do I have to install one under wine (e.g. daemon-tools)
[15:01] <karan> im gonna install the gnome version
[15:01] <bombcm__> u r on OS
[15:01] <rocket16> karan: Simply install FLash plugin, and it will be done
[15:01] <kaolbrec> p0e, look up loopback
[15:01] <karan> i did rocket16
[15:01] <karan> flash 10
[15:01] <karan> it laggs like heck!
[15:01] <kaolbrec> p0e, you can mount an iso without any extra tools
[15:01] <rocket16> karan: Using Kubuntu?
[15:01] <karan> ubuntu
[15:01] <karan> gnome
[15:01] <eremite> p0e, I would think that daemon tools would be yoru best bet because Windows doesnt not see Linux partitions by default.
[15:02] <rocket16> karan: Oh,
[15:02] <kitti> hablais español
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  what exactly are you trying to acomplish in wine?  Copy-protected-game disks proberly wont work  if thats your target.
[15:02] <nibbler> !es | kitti
[15:02] <eremite> !ubuntu-es kitti,
[15:02] <robert__> hi ermeite
[15:02] <eremite> damn, I'll never get these IRC commands down.
[15:02] <p0e> Dr: It isnt. I'm trying to install an ISO that I made.
[15:02] <eremite> Hi robert__
[15:02] <karan> deos suse/opensuse support rpm
[15:02] <robert__> i am having trouble with my usb drive
[15:03] <rocket16> Isn't the .pyc file platform independent?
[15:03] <robert__> lsusb reads the hardware
[15:03] <robert__> but fdisk -l does not see the drive
[15:03] <eremite> Sorry to heqar that robert__ , please detail your problem in one line, do not use enter as punctuation.
[15:03] <invisime> I am formatting a second hard drive on my home server. should I format it as ext3 or ext4?
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  you could mount the iso. and copy the contents to your .wine/whatever/c_drive/someplace    drectory if you wanted to
[15:03] <eremite> robert__, try using  $ df
[15:03] <p0e> DR: Couldn't I just extract them as well? Will they install if they arent "on a cd" or is that windows thinking?
[15:03] <kaolbrec> karan, as far as I'm aware that is what it uses for packages, yes
[15:03] <glphvgacs> hi, need a one liner to get my dns server's ip
[15:03] <karan> ok
[15:03] <karan> cuz i just want
[15:04] <robert__> lsusb reads the hardware but fdisk -l does not see the drive
[15:04] <MortarMan> hi can anybody help me with .p12 wifi authentication file ?
[15:04] <karan> utube to not lagg
[15:04] <kaolbrec> karan, but distro hopping isn't going to solve your problem with youtube
[15:04] <karan> it did with fedora
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  that would be extracting them....
[15:04] <peter007> Hello
[15:04] <ninja_tux> Does anyone know a good/easy to download website blocker for google chrome?
[15:04] <karan> k
[15:04] <karan> ty
[15:04] <kitti> hello
[15:04] <Guest95366> I have an hp laptop with an nvidia graphics card and am running dual monitors with it.  For some reason I can't use the touchpad on the laptop to get to the second screen, I have to use a usb mouse.  Any suggestions on fixing this?
[15:04] <puser> p0e: you can mount an iso in linux and in wine config -> drive mappings choose the location of the mount folder, where the iso was mounted and choose cd-rom type.
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  you could mount the iso to .wine/c_drive/the-cd-drive   and wine can access them as if they ere in a dir on c:
[15:04] <peter007> How do you search for a file with a particular file extention in Ubuntu
[15:04] <llutz> nibbler: adblock
[15:05] <rumpsy> so, is there application to learn languages like spanish, japan
[15:05] <_kirk> good evening
[15:05] <_kirk> I have a problem, how do I default to mount a TrueCrypt volume?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> peter007:  locate, or find command
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> peter007:  or some of the gui tools
[15:05] <p0e> dr: yeh i know but what i mean is, ubuntu lets me view the file with an archiver (not "mounting it") but kiso/giso/etc are giving me errors when i try to mount it
[15:05] <peter007> Is there a search function like in windows?
[15:05] <p0e> if i copy the contents of the file into my wine drive and click go will it run as normal?
[15:05] <eremite> peter007, yes.  PLACES > SEARCH FOR FILES
[15:05] <karan> hey what ever happened to project looking glass
[15:05] <karan> ?
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> peter007:  in the gnome menus.. there is. :)
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  i dont see why not.
[15:06] <airen> Project looking glass is dead.
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  i always mount via the mount  and loop options
[15:06] <robert__> hi eremite. df shows /dev/sda1
[15:06] <p0e> righ on, thats what i was tryign to figure out
[15:06] <wazzaaaaa> what was project looking glass?
[15:06] <peter007> I am trying to search for *.doc files
[15:06] <k0d3g3ar> peter007:  You might want to take a look at Dolphin for file management, etc.
[15:06] <karan> ok thnx peter
[15:06] <_kirk> in loop
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> peter007:  'locate .doc'  perhaps...
[15:06] <kitti> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:06] <peter007> ok ok thanks
[15:06] <peter007> its working
[15:07] <p0e> willis: i may need to have access to a full version of windows... as far as a virtual machine vs dual booting is there a clear advantage from one to the other?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  dual booting is more reliable and proberly faster.
[15:07] <eremite> robert__, I'm sorry that I cannot be of more assistance to you.  Please be patient and ask your questions every few minutes and someone should be able to assist you as soon as possible.
[15:07] <mrgreen> running 10.04 need lastest kernel 2.6.32 how do I load it?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  it all depends on what you are doing.
[15:07] <robert__> ok eremite! No problem..thanks anyways
[15:07] <puser> p0e, I installed "Mount Manager" program from the ubuntu repo. It's a gui application that i was able to mount any iso that I had.
[15:08] <p0e> i play some oneline games, they work well enough through Wine but i'm having latency issues; would a virtual box handle these through windows through linux or would it be the same as a dual boot
[15:08] <abstrakt> how do i get the workspace switcher to STOP giving me tooltips thusly forcing the autohide behavior to keep the tray extended?
[15:08] <abstrakt> this is *way* annoying
[15:08] <robert__> Hi everyone! I am having trouble accessing my usb drive. lsusb shows the hardware but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[15:09] <peter007> bye
[15:09] <ANA789CARRION> ola
[15:09] <eremite> p0e, VirtualBoxes run under the hosts videos drivers, which means no difference to you besides more memory and CPU usage.  The ONLY thing keeping em tied to Windows is gaming, but Im weening myself onto the native linux games more and more, like Urban Terror and Wolfenstein ET.
[15:09] <mrgreen> Can I force upgrade to latest kernel?
[15:10] <p0e> eremine: right on
 Can I force upgrade to latest kernel? < i nedd ot
[15:10] <p0e> assuming i were to want to set up a dual boot would it be advisable to install win first and then linux, or vice versa
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  a lot will depend on what game
[15:10] <bombcm__> plz help us
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> p0e:  win first.. then linux.. BEst is to have a seperate hard drive for each OS.
[15:10] <nikitis> Dr_Willis: I successfully cloned the drive.  It boots and everything
[15:11] <FriedrichMan> I am still having trouble with my keyboard
[15:11] <FriedrichMan> and the accents
[15:11] <puser> eremite: does VirtualBox support 3D hardware emulation?, because, when I used VirtualPC and VMWare last time, neither of them did.
[15:11] <bombcm__> i still to
[15:11] <p0e> separate partition or separate HD or same
[15:11] <robert__> Hi everyone! I am having trouble accessing my usb drive. lsusb shows the hardware but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[15:11] <FriedrichMan> it writes them like this ´i´o´a´e
[15:11] <bombcm__> on windows OS  you press alt + 126
[15:12] <KB1JWQ> FriedrichMan: Might be a unicode issue; are you sure you've selected the proper keyboard within Ubuntu?
[15:12] <FriedrichMan> yeap
[15:12] <mrgreen> current running 2.6.31 would like 2.6.32
[15:12] <eremite> p0e, its easy to dual boot.  I have a partitioned HD with Windows Xp and Ubuntu on it.  The dual boot setup was very easy since I had windows installed first.  I also have installed windows second and it was also easy, the only problem is that the boot screen loader dissapeared and I needed to reinstall Grub (boot loader program to choose which OS) from the Live CD again.  Not fun, but easy.
[15:12] <chrisw> hi all, how can I find otu what processor my box thinks it has?
[15:12] <bombcm__> r u use it in ~
[15:12] <FriedrichMan> and I just came to realize I am having the exact same problem in my pc
[15:13] <FriedrichMan> so how come that could happen
[15:13] <llutz> chrisw: grep model /proc/cpuinfo
[15:13] <robert__> Hi everyone! I am having trouble accessing my usb drive. lsusb shows the hardware but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[15:13] <daniskami> FriedrichMan: you seem to be using a keyboard layout with "nodeadkeys" options
[15:13] <bombcm__> ok
[15:13] <nilsma> Anyone have any pointers on how to get microphone working on 8.10?
[15:14] <bombcm__> should you go it and success
[15:14] <FriedrichMan> daniskami: that's right
[15:14] <p0e> eremite: if i have a game installed via Wine could it be feasibly run through windows or would i have to install it twice (or installing under windows and running through wine)
[15:14] <Lazy^> Hello i've got really wierd problem with kernel 2.6.31-20. After kernel update nvidia-module crashes "picture" on gnome & kde, it gives random colors / pixels to the screen. U can use it, so it's somehow working. Without nvidia module everything work perfectly. I've tried 5 different drivers but no solution. Also reconfigure X (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg). Any ideas about this problem
[15:15] <daniskami> FriedrichMan: well, "nodeadkeys" does exactly that: instead of letting you type accented characters, it outputs accent and letter seperately
[15:15] <puser> nilsma: are you trying to use it in Skype or it doesn't work anywhere?
[15:15] <FriedrichMan> PC generic 105 keys (intl)
[15:15] <eremite> p0e, if you install it in WINE it's actually installed on your Linux partition.  You would need to install it twice.
[15:15] <nilsma> havent been able to make it work anywhere yet, ... but ultimately i want to make it work on skype
[15:15] <FriedrichMan> daniskami: so I should include deadkeys?
[15:15] <bombcm__> like me but i can't use or (symbole> in C
[15:16] <robert__> Hi everyone! I am having trouble accessing my usb drive. lsusb shows the hardware but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[15:16] <bombcm__> i copy in notepad and copy when i use it
[15:16] <daniskami> FriedrichMan: yes, it's only with dead keys that you can write accented letters ("dead" refers to the fact that the accent doesn't appear instantly when you press the key)
[15:16] <FriedrichMan> cause I just did that and I still have the problem
[15:16] <FriedrichMan> I select Latin american include dead keys...
 hey what do u mean use the wizard?
[15:17] <p0e> eremite: thanks a lot for the input.. been having a lot of my issues mainly because my laptop doesnt have a CD rom drive so anything i want to install on it has to be ISO'd and then xferred over
[15:17] <FriedrichMan> and when I type in the test box... it still writtes the accen down with that problem
[15:18] <robert__> Hi everyone! I am having trouble accessing my usb drive. lsusb shows the hardware but fdisk -l does not show the drive
[15:18] <FriedrichMan> daniskami: what do you think would be a reason for my keyboard changing it's distribution all the time?
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  is there data on it you want to keep?
[15:18] <p0e> robert: i'm a total noob, but i had that problem happen and after formatting the USB it worked fine
[15:18] <robert__> yes
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  and see what 'dmesg' says after you plug it in
[15:18] <Shazbot|busy> Dr_Willis, how do I make youtube work in chrome?
[15:18] <eremite> p0e, many games do not need CDs, mainly free games :D  If you play FPS games I suggest playing some of the ones you can get for GNU/Linux natively, like Alien Arena or WolfET.  Urban Terror is my favorite at the moment.  Even a game like AssaultCube is fun (only a 40mb download!).
[15:19] <Shazbot|busy> You're a mater guru, please help me.
[15:19] <Shazbot|busy> master*
[15:19] <daniskami> FriedrichMan: I have no idea, sorry
[15:19] <robert__> scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access              2233 PRAM        1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Shazbot|busy:  instgall flash, or set  youtube to use the html5 stuff.
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Shazbot|busy:  it worked for me with no hassles here
[15:19] <FriedrichMan> this is bad... I have to reboot my computer once or twice a day for that problem, it's really annoying
[15:19] <p0e> eremite: yeh, i dont do much gaming but one of the things i wanted to do with this laptop when i bought it was play fallout 3... thinking it might not be feasible with a pure linux setup
[15:19] <Shazbot|busy> how do I set it to use html5?
[15:19] <robert__> hi Dr Willis scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access              2233 PRAM        1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
[15:19] <Shazbot|busy> Dr_Willis, it used to, then it just stopped one day.
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Shazbot|busy:  youtube.com/html5 but not all videos are html5 compat
[15:20] <daniskami> FriedrichMan: maybe somebody else has, try to ask again in a couple of minutes and specify exactly what happens
[15:20] <FriedrichMan> daniskami: ok, thanks,I will do that
[15:20] <eremite> p0e, it's possible to install it on your machine, I think.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD7FrqIX5qs  This person did it, apparently.
[15:20] <puser> nilsma: because, I've had a problem with a mic in skype, while I saw that it was getting feedback from microphone monitoring soft. I had to uncheck "allow skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels", because it was always lowering the mic level too low automatically. When I unchecked it and moved the mic in mic properties up, it started working.
[15:21] <MortarMan> when on the earth will be there really stable version of pulseaudio ? aaaaaa
[15:21] <p0e> eremite: looks like VM server
[15:21] <Shazbot|busy> Dr_Willis, that works for now
[15:21]  * Shazbot|busy shrugs
[15:22] <fabio666> MortarMan: kde doesn't need it
[15:22] <p0e> would it be possible to configure a VM box without a cd drive via iso?
[15:22] <nilsma> puser: ill try that and see if it changes anything
[15:22] <coderdad> I have a weird thing going on with a new Ubuntu Server vm I setup.  After it has been running for about an hour I get this WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[15:22] <coderdad> I can reboot and it works for a few minutes
[15:22] <MortarMan> fabio666: so i have to reinstall ?
[15:22] <coderdad> then I lose connection
[15:22] <coderdad> and get that again, but the key has not changed
[15:23] <fabio666> MortarMan: i got rid of pulse a lot time ago because i'm om kde 4.4 now
[15:23] <niekie> coderdad: eitehr someone is pulling a MITM on you, or the remote host identification changed _somehow_.
[15:23] <coderdad> how do I check for MITM
[15:23] <nikitis> How do I resize a partition?  I'm at gparted via live cd, but when I go to resize the partition it won't allow me to increase the size past what side it already is.
[15:23] <MortarMan> fabio666: thanks a lot
[15:23] <robert__> hi dr. willis what am i looking for from dmesg?
[15:23] <p0e> oh i see what this guy is doing, he has it installed/running on a winbox and then has his linux box set to grab the inputs
[15:23] <niekie> coderdad: that's very hard :)
[15:24] <eremite> oi p0e, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1145714  <-- HOWTO: Fallout 3 and wine
[15:24] <coderdad> well it's a new server can I just start over and change ip
[15:24] <p0e> thanks man
[15:24] <genii> rjb: You can try setting your USB not to use powersaving by putting: usbcore.autosuspend=-1         in your /etc/sysctl.conf   file. This will prevent power management system from trying to turn the modem on and off to save power.
[15:24] <niekie> coderdad: of course you can if you wish :)
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  mention of a  /dev/sd## device name that it might be using.. or any error messasg as to why its not seeing it
[15:24] <coderdad> how would I keep something like that from happening
[15:24] <coderdad> this is the second install
[15:25] <coderdad> I've had other issues with keys repeating and stuff
[15:25] <robert__> so the dmesg will say what drive it is using?
[15:25] <wazzaaaaa> how do i adjust the resolution , desktop wallpapers appear to loose effect when stretched
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  there should be about 5+ lines thta show up a few secs after pluggint in the drvice.. use 'tail -f /var/log/messages' and plyg it in and see what it says
[15:25] <coderdad> niekie:  It's my second install with this issue
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  yes. it should mention a sd##
[15:25] <nilsma> puser: switching off the automatically adjust my mixer levels did nothing im afraid :/
[15:25] <coderdad> niekie: same ip
[15:25] <wazzaaaaa> ubuntu 9.10
[15:26] <p0e> i've gotta get to work, thanks for the help eremite & willis
[15:26] <robert__> sdb
[15:26] <puser> nilsma: you also have to move the mic all the way up
[15:27] <vexati0n> can I get some help with Brasero? i'm trying to create a DVD image and it is stuck on "converting video file to mpeg2" ... the video itself is like 15 seconds long (just a test) wtf?
[15:27] <puser> nilsma: pavumeter --record
[15:27] <puser> will allow you to see your mic levels
[15:27] <robert__> hi dr. willis it says sdb
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  so try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb  or just try mounting /dev/sdb1 by hand
[15:27] <puser> nilsma: alsamixer -c 0
[15:27] <puser> and then pressing F4 in there
[15:27] <puser> will allow you to change the mic levels
[15:28] <puser> nilsma: are you using internal or external mic?
[15:28] <coderdad> niekie: if I reboot my server and connect just fine does that indicate that it isn't MITM
[15:28] <nilsma> puser: i assume you mean in volume control panel? i have adjusted it there, however there is a small icon on the "50s-style microhpone" below it that has a small x over it - tho removing it and closing does nothing (wont save)
[15:28] <nilsma> external
[15:28] <wrapster> skype mysteriously is failing on ubuntu 9.10
[15:28] <eremite> Do Remastersys questions get support here?
[15:29] <robert__> hi dr. willis mount point /mnt/sdb does not exist
[15:29] <wrapster> i can log in but it automatically kills itself after a while..
[15:29] <wrapster> can anyone pls help..its urgent
[15:29] <puser> nilsma: try doing it with the command I gave you.
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  yes.. linux basics.. you must have a mount point existing.. befor you can mount to it.. make the directory you want to mount the device to FIRST.
[15:29] <nilsma> tried that too, all is adjusted (boosted, full volume)
[15:30] <terry_> wrapster: The whole PC shuts down?
[15:30] <wrapster> terry_: no.. only skype
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  sudo mkdir /media/USB   then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USB
[15:30] <bernz> nilsma, a lot of modern audio hardware allows reassignment of I/O; perhaps your mic jack is configured as a secondary/tertiary output... dig, dig, dig in the audio control panel (just an idea)
[15:30] <terry_> wrapster: You might try watching:  tail -f /var/log/messages
[15:31] <nilsma> bernz: there are options of mic1/mic2, both tested to no avail :/
[15:31] <wrapster> terry_: ok
[15:31] <eremite> nilsma, try Line In
[15:31] <puser> nilsma: if you have an internal mic, you have to press spacebar on intmic section, so that you get: L CAPTUR R switched on on both int mic places. If you have external mic, you will have to do it on ext mic instead and move the level all the way up.
[15:31] <terry_> wrapster: Actually, just run skype from terminal and see if you get errors when it crshes.
[15:31] <bernz> nilsma, have you confirmed that your mic itself (hardware) is okay? you *could* plug the output of an mp3 player (set volume very low at first) into your mic-in, to provide a "test signal" for tuning
[15:31] <robert__> dr. willis it says mount: no medium found on /dev/sdb
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  pay attention
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  sudo mkdir /media/USB   then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USB
[15:32] <bernz> (it's not completely electrically compatible, though, so it's at your own risk ;-)
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> robert__:   /dev/sdb is  the drive.. sdb1 is the actual partition
[15:32] <nilsma> bernz: the mic has been working on win previously
[15:33] <bernz> nilsma, okay, so hopefully it's just a matter of a small misconfiguration you haven't discovered yet; have you examined every possible "path" in the GUI for config'ing the mic?
[15:33] <bernz> (sometimes, it will show up as multiple devices, etc, and only one of them really affects the behavior)
[15:34] <puser> nilsma: did you try the pavumeter --record
[15:34] <puser> and
[15:34] <puser> alsamixer -c 0
[15:34] <puser> and then pressing F4 in there
[15:34] <puser> will allow you to change the mic levels
[15:34] <FloodBot4> puser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <puser> ?
[15:34] <terry_> bernz: nilsma Sometimes the channels are mixed up, labled wrong.  Not often but that is the case once in a while.
[15:34] <robert__> hi dr. willis sorry for not paying attention...after your instructions it says mount: /dev/sdb: unknown device
[15:34] <nilsma> puser: i will have to install it first, trying the line in idea, and youre alsamixer instructions atm
[15:34] <vexati0n> can I get some help with Brasero? i'm trying to create a DVD image and it is stuck on "converting video file to mpeg2" ... the video itself is like 15 seconds long (just a test) wtf?
[15:35] <Davidf88> (ﾉ `Д´)ﾉ ~┻━┻
[15:35] <bernz> puser, careful, the bots here are aggressive (it's an unfortunate necessity); try separating your thoughts with semicolons or something to keep 'em stuck in one line to make the bots happy ;-)
[15:35] <posixGuru> I downloaded ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso; where is the md5 ?
[15:35] <arathald> robert__: type 'ls /dev/sd*'
[15:35] <puser> bernz: ok :)
[15:36] <Arabus> Hey, small question. is there a package for the openssl update from the 25.Feb for ubuntu yet? (The one that enables the TLS-renegotiation )
[15:36] <robert__> it says /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb
[15:36] <Pici> posixGuru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:36] <bernz> terry_, yeah, i've had "weirdness" before with various hardware showing up as different things (i'm actually still not totally clear on how ALSA, OSS, and other low-level bits work/fight together... gotta look into that a bit)
[15:36] <arathald> robert__: you're trying to mount sdb?
[15:36] <arathald> robert__: it looks to not be partitioned
[15:36] <robert__> yes
[15:37] <robert__> yes i want to mount sdb
[15:37] <arathald> robert__: type 'sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb', then quit and tell me what partitions you saw there
[15:37] <robert__> i also see it as 2233 pram
[15:37] <bernz> puser, i just tried 'alsamixer -c 0' (never seen it before), hah! text-based mixer, nice!
[15:38] <robert__> when i go to paces-> computer
[15:38] <robert__> when i go to places-> computer-> 2233 pram
[15:38] <bernz> nilsma, since i'm not totally aware of your problem, are you GUI-less at the moment? (perhaps why the 'alsamixer -c 0' was suggested...?)
[15:38] <nilsma> puser: alsamixer: master capture is 100%, "Line" 100% L capt R, "Mic" L capt R, and "Mic Sele" with mic1/mic2, "Amic" 100% ... nothing seems to be off, though i am no pro at this
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  You may want to test with a live cd. and see if that sees the usb thing properly. its possible it may be faulty. or very curripted
[15:38] <arathald> ... is sdb a usb drive?
[15:39] <nilsma> bernz: my system is running fine, no problems at all, just not able to record and play back sound from my own microphone
[15:39] <puser> bernz: :), it's easier to give instructions long distance with text baced utilities then GUI.
[15:39] <robert__> FATAL ERROR cannot open disk drive
[15:39] <puser> nilsma: did you press F4 in there?
[15:39] <arathald> robert__: you did that through sudo?
[15:39] <arathald> robert__: if you don't use sudo, it won't read the drive
[15:39] <robert__> yes i did i got a grey screen with the message above
[15:40] <nilsma> puser: yes, i went thru first "capture"-tab, then the "all"-tab
[15:40] <arathald> well, if you did it through sudo and it couldn't read the drive, there's likely something wrong with the drive. do what Dr_Willis suggested
[15:41] <robert__> live ubuntu cd?
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> I had a usb flash drive go flakey. and couldent do anything with it untill i 'zeroed' it out with dd and reformated it.
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  or any live cd.
[15:42] <arathald> robert__: yes; also try it in another computer, with a different version of linux or with windows or macos, to see if any of those can read the drive
[15:42] <Selcuk> "#qemu :Cannot send to channel" what doeas it means ?
[15:42] <iceroot> Selcuk: that you cannot send to the channel  have a look at #freenode
[15:42] <Selcuk> i can not send any massages at public in qemu clanel
[15:43] <robert__> i tried it already and it read the usb but keeps asking to insert the drive name G:
[15:43] <nilsma> puser: pavumeter --record, gives an error message: connection failed: connection refused
[15:43] <marinius> hola
[15:43] <marinius> como esais
[15:43] <Pici> Selcuk: You probably need to be registered and identified to speak there.
[15:43] <Pici> !register | Selcuk
[15:43] <Pici> !es | marinius
[15:44] <robert__> i will go try it on a mac pc..i'll be right back
[15:44] <rotham> hey.. when i try to load ubuntu i get a screen that looks like a command line starting with sh:grub> ... how can I fix that?
[15:44] <puser> nilsma: in view you should have [Capture] selected. You should have only capture devices there, i.e. mic, line-in, no speakers. You need to select the right input. Like, for example, I have two mics in there. One Ext mic, and one int mic. Each have 2 sections. One - selection section, the other level. The level should be up and selection should say L CAPTUR R.
[15:45] <puser> nilsma: maybe you don't have pulseaudio installed? Skype requires PulseAudio
[15:45] <nilsma> puser: how do i check for pulseaudio?
[15:46] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:46] <puser> pulser: maybe you should run:
[15:46] <puser> sudo pavumeter --record
[15:46] <nilsma> according to synaptic thingy its installer
[15:46] <nilsma> according to synaptic thingy its installed*
[15:47] <nilsma> sudo pavumeter --record returns the same error message
[15:47] <nilsma> let me try booting, brb
[15:48] <rotham> I just updated ubuntu, and now when i try to load ubuntu i get a screen that looks like a command line starting with sh:grub> ... how can I fix that?
[15:49] <Selcuk> ok thx for your help
[15:49] <puser> rotham: try to run:
[15:49] <puser> /etc/init.d/gdm
[15:49] <puser> rotham: try to run:
[15:49] <puser> /etc/init.d/gdm start
[15:49] <puser> rotham: maybe, you don't have graphics drivers installed
[15:50] <abstrakt> how do I enable NTFS support in Ubuntu?
[15:50] <abstrakt> i just need read, not r/w
[15:50] <puser> rotham: you might have to reinstall your graphics drivers. When I upgraded ubuntu from 8.10 to 9.04, my graphics got screwed up, I reinstalled the graphics drivers and it fixed the problem
[15:51] <BluesKaj> abstrakt, ntfs-3g
[15:52] <rotham> it doesnt even give me an option to pick which kernel to use
[15:52] <rotham> i think i found a fix online
[15:52] <peter_> ütpt
[15:52] <rotham> someone mentioned the exact problem i had
[15:52] <vexati0n> can I get some help with Brasero? i'm trying to create a DVD image and it is stuck on "converting video file to mpeg2" ... the video itself is like 15 seconds long (just a test) wtf?
[15:53] <peter_> zdzd fäg ein ojdwl ewq ein kewle ein kde
[15:53] <bonez2046> ?
[15:53] <xaa_V> Hello! I've noticed recently that youtube.com does not display the videos. It appears a link that says Go Upgrade! and it sends me to the adobe page. I'm using ubuntu 9.10 and mozilla firefox 3.5.8. I've opened Synaptic Package and looked for flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree, both are upgraded to the latest version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu0.9. It worked until a couple of days ago. Any idea on what could be wrong?
[15:53] <peter_> öuöuökö8
[15:53] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, ok i already have that installed, is there a particular reason my windows partition doesn't auto mount like my USB drives?
[15:53] <IdleOne> !danish
[15:53] <peter_> ls
[15:54] <Pici> !de | peter_
[15:54] <robert__> hi everyone i am back. i tried it on mac to no avail
[15:54] <BluesKaj> abstrakt, are you using nautilus / network ?
[15:54] <robert__> ok..so i will try with a live cd
[15:54] <abstrakt> i'm using Nautilus
[15:54] <IdleOne> Pici: thanks
[15:54] <robert__> thanks everyone for your gracious time and support
[15:55] <abstrakt> dunno what you mean by "/ network"
[15:55] <hamzaatova3> i've a question-- i can connect to my wireless connectnio with the linux computer but not with another computer with win 7-- do you know what might cause it?
[15:55] <abstrakt> i mean i'm sure i can poke around and figure out where the drive is in /dev and mount it myself, but it seems that nautilus should auto recognize and mount it if I've got NTFS available
[15:55] <haavaros> I made an entry in startup programs: gnome-terminal -e ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the hope that it would start a terminal window at login ... it didn't. How can I do that?
[15:55] <abstrakt> hamzaatova3, yeah, win 7
[15:55] <IdleOne> hamzaatova3: ask in ##windows for windows related support
[15:56] <robert__> actually i tried it with acronis true image cd to try and look at the usb and it did not see the device
[15:56] <BluesKaj> abstrakt, please use my nick when you ask a question...I'm also on other channels so the notification tells me to answer
[15:56] <bernz> puser, "it's easier to give instructions long distance with text baced utilities then GUI."> ah, of course :-)
[15:56] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, np, some people like that some people don't
[15:56] <bernz> wb nilsma, any changes after a reboot?
[15:57] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, so, dunno what you mean by "/ network" and i'm sure i can mount the thing myself, but i'd like to see it available in Nautilus when i startup my system
[15:57] <nilsma> hmm, not much, but i get the pavumeter going now
[15:57] <sv> ...
[15:57] <bernz> that sounds useful
[15:57] <robert__> Hi everyone! How I access a curropted usb drive?
[15:58] <sv> всем доброго времени суток
[15:58] <nilsma> mm, but the meter is just trembling at 0-2%
[15:58] <BluesKaj> abstrakt, look in the places menu for network
[15:58] <arathald> ...
[15:58] <nilsma> tho when i turn master capture off in alsamixer it dies, meaning that there is some pulse there
[15:58] <sv> есть кто понимает по руски?
[15:58] <Myrtti> !ru | sv
[15:59] <nilsma> either my microphone is busted (tho it was working a short while ago on win), or i am using the wrong option for capture device or something
[15:59] <sv> народ
[15:59] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, not much, just one item that says "Windows Network" but i get some random error like not found or whatever when i try to open it
[15:59] <robert__> Hi everyone! How I access a corrupted usb drive?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> abstrakt, pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[16:00] <nilsma> i should possibly point out that all other sound (output) is working nicely, its just microphone (input) i am struggling with
[16:00] <robert__> hi dr. willis and all! i tried live cd to no avail
[16:00] <haavaros> I made an entry in startup programs: gnome-terminal -e ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the hope that it would start a terminal window at login ... it didn't. How can I make that happen?
[16:00] <abstrakt> BluesKaj, maybe in a while, got work to do, but thanks... i'll look at fstab later
[16:01] <bernz> nilsma, have you tried using the GUI ALSA mixer/control-panel?
[16:01] <arathald> robert__: do you have important files on there, or can it be erased?
[16:01] <bernz> (also called "sound preferences" in 9.10+)
[16:02] <robert__> arathald: yes i want the files on it
[16:02] <nilsma> bernz: yes, i have been looking about in there as well
[16:03] <nilsma> having 5 different devices to choose from there
[16:03] <bernz> haavaros, does the command work by itself, in another shell? i'm wondering if gnome-terminal is working, but can't execute 'ssh' (and subsequently closes?)
[16:03] <arathald> robert__: well, it depends how it's corrupted... data retrieval can be a nontrivial task
[16:03] <bernz> nilsma, on the 'input' page?
[16:03] <_iTroll> guys, im using remastersys to make a live cd from my ubuntu install, I need a system wide alias, will it work in /etc/profile?
[16:04] <robert__> arathald: ok..lets do it...lets get this non-trivial data back
[16:04] <nilsma> on sound preferences
[16:04] <robert__> arathald: what are my non-trivial options
[16:04] <nilsma> thru system > sound
[16:04] <arathald> robert__: actually, I'm supposed to be at lunch now... I'll be back in ~35 minutes, but even then, I can't guarentee anything... im not an expert
[16:04] <nilsma> (or double-click sound-icon on control panel)
[16:04] <bernz> nilsma, within the 'sound preferences' dialog, there should be a few tab-pages on top: 'sound effects', hardware', 'input', 'output', 'applications' (you are on 9.10, or?)
[16:05] <arathald> robert__: the first thing I would try though, is pulling an image with dd, and if that fails, with dd_recover or dc3dd
[16:05] <robert__> arathald: thats ok..go have lunch and hit me back when u r ready
[16:05] <arathald> robert__: you can look those up and figure out how to do that, you don't need me to look down those paths
[16:05] <haavaros> bernz: yes, the command works in terminal
[16:05] <robert__> arathald: ok will do
[16:05] <bernz> robert__, how much you do you know so far? (can you positively identify the device in /dev, and so on)
[16:05] <robert__> dd it is
[16:05] <robert__> arathald: /dev/sdb
[16:06] <nilsma> my apologies bernz, i am on 8.10, pointed it out earlier, but that was probably before you joined in the conversation :/
[16:06] <Selcuk> still i cant wrtie that channel
[16:06] <Selcuk> :(
[16:06] <bernz> haavaros, so, when 'startup' runs, it might have a "weaker" environment (less things defined), and could be having trouble finding the path to ssh, even if it works from a "proper" shell (after login)... but i don't know how to check/prove that easily, off-hand
[16:06] <Selcuk> i have resiterd my nick and logged on but its not work
[16:06] <bernz> nilsma, ah yes, i'd missed that... okay, your mixer will look different (less options i think)
[16:07] <nilsma> yes
[16:07] <Myrtti> NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Selcuk has NOT COMPLETED  registration verification
[16:07] <Myrtti> Selcuk: check your email
[16:07] <bernz> nilsma, but you should still be able to select an input device, and then adjust a 'mic' volume (check for mute also), and maybe even a 'boost' setting; try each device in turn (maybe you already have)
[16:07] <nilsma> i have two tabs "devices" and "sounds"
[16:07] <woty> Hello
[16:07] <eremite> Hello woty
[16:08] <fastputty> hello however i send email uing exim, my email fall into junkbox of hotmail, yahoo etc.. is there a way to legit my email??
[16:08] <bernz> nilsma, okay, the 'sounds' tab is probably just for associating sounds with system events (not relevant to the problem at hand); stay with the 'devices' area, at least
[16:09] <nilsma> right you are, the sounds tab is basically for the events etc
[16:09] <nilsma> in devices i have "sound event", "music and movies" and "audio conferencing", and "default mixer tracks"
[16:09] <nilsma> one subcategory is "sound capture"
[16:09] <bernz> that sounds promising
[16:09] <s4aluck> do somebody can help me to make my webcam pleomax pwc-3800 work on Karmic
[16:10] <nilsma> where i have different alternatives, div. pulseaudio, oss, alsa, test-sound and similar
[16:10] <Remmaze> guys, need your help, what is the best Scanner for Ubuntu 9.10....??
[16:10] <bernz> if you scroll way down on this page -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting -- you'll find a section 'getting line input to work (microphone, etc)' -- maybe this will offer some clues?
[16:11] <nilsma> thanks mate, i will read thru it and try what i find there :)
[16:11] <bernz> AFAIK, OSS is the oldest audio subsystem (thus, often more reliable); maybe you can use OSS for input?
[16:11] <bernz> nilsma, no worries, good luck!
[16:12] <nilsma> thanks!
[16:12] <Remmaze> guys, need your help, what is the best Scanner for Ubuntu 9.10....??
[16:13] <IdleOne> !hardware | Remmaze
[16:13] <MohammadRRR> hi i have just bought a vaio F111FX NoteBook with nvidia 310M VGA Driver . When I install nvidia 185 driver using Hardware drivers and i reboot . i just see a black screen and when i remove the driver every thing fix . what should i do ?
[16:13] <Remmaze> ok than...
[16:13] <haavaros> bernz: I tried specifying the path, like this: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal e- /usr/bin/ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, without any luck
[16:13] <BluesKaj> !best | Remmaze
[16:13] <bernz> robert__, so /dev/sdb is your physical drive; it has volumes (AKA partitions) on it, usually just a single on if it's external drive via USB... you have '/dev/sdb' and '/dev/sdb1', i suppose?
[16:13] <Selcuk> its ok now
[16:14] <keepguessing> Hi I wanted to know if there are any good download managers for ubuntu ... I am currently using wget ... I usually get around 200kBps on my windows ... Here i am not crossing 100KBPS
[16:14] <bernz> haavaros, i'm sure it was just a typo, but you've transposed 'e-' (should be '-e'); you had it correct earlier
[16:14] <Selcuk> i mean i can send messages to the cannel
[16:14] <keepguessing> Please suggest ... Thanks :)
[16:14] <robert__> bernz: yes
[16:14] <VoidByte> Does any one know which gstreamer package contains the codec for quicktime?
[16:14] <robert__> i tried to access it but no medium found
[16:15] <haavaros> bernz: yep, typo here :)
[16:15] <eremite> VoidByte, searching in the synaptic repos you should be able to search for quicktime, find the gstreamer package, look at the dependancies for that package.
[16:15] <robert__> bernz: /dev/sdb is the usb removable drive
[16:15] <fabio666> keepguessing: wget is fast as hell.... downthemall for firefox
[16:15] <bernz> haavaros, i'm sure i've read that one is supposed to start GUI programs a special way, though i can't remember what it is, and it shouldn't have that much effect anyway (some highly technical issues in certain situations if GUI apps are launched from a shell)
[16:16] <robert__> bernz: i am trying to access this usb drive
[16:16] <bernz> robert__, okay, so if you 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb', you'll get some info on the drive, including list of partitions... do you?
[16:16] <keepguessing> fabio666: I see a performance difference as I mentioned earlier ...  The process is still running, and "gnome-screensaver-command -a" works fine, but it won't activate when the computer is idle. What could be the cause? How does the screensaver know the computer is idle? (Xubuntu 9.10)
[16:16] <robert__> bernz: the command comes up blank
[16:17] <fabio666> keepguessing: linux for me is a lot faster, try downthemall
[16:17] <ddavids> which microblogging client can i use...?
[16:17] <bernz> haavaros, there's definitely a solution to this one, in any case, but i'm just not seeing where the problem lies
[16:17] <MohammadRRR> ddavids: choqok
[16:17] <fabio666> and start downloading more than 4 segments for a single file
[16:17] <keepguessing> fabio666: thanks will try it
[16:17] <sinistrad> bernz, hdparm might give some stats
[16:18] <bernz> robert__, interesting; you're sure you're executing as super? for my systems, blank results from 'fdisk -l' are usually caused by running as non-super
[16:18] <robert__> bernz: yes i know
[16:18] <robert__> bernz: this is interesting
[16:18] <bernz> sinistrad, true, though we're more interested in determining the configuration of the partitions (not so much the disk geometry)
[16:19] <sinistrad> bernz, Ahh, ok.  Just sat down and saw the end of that
[16:19] <bernz> robert__, so, if you do 'ls -l /dev/sd*', you get '/dev/sdb' and something else starting with the same, or only the drive device?
[16:19] <bernz> sinistrad, yeah, no worries :-)
[16:19] <haavaros> bernz: I'll just post the question in the forums. Thx anyway
[16:19] <bernz> haavaros, cool, good luck
[16:20] <robert__> bernz: i get brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  0 2010-03-16 08:09 /dev/sda
[16:20] <robert__> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  1 2010-03-16 08:09 /dev/sda1
[16:20] <robert__> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  2 2010-03-16 08:45 /dev/sda2
[16:20] <robert__> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8,  5 2010-03-16 08:09 /dev/sda5
[16:20] <robert__> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2010-03-16 11:54 /dev/sdb
[16:20] <FloodBot4> robert__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <robert__> bernz: oops sorry
[16:20] <robert__> will do next time
[16:21] <FrEaKmAn_> how could I compare content of 2 folders?
[16:21] <FrEaKmAn_> just if equal or not
[16:21] <bernz> robert__, okay, now we're getting somewhere...
[16:21] <bernz> robert__, it looks as if your drive's partition table is empty or damaged (otherwise, volumes would show up as '/dev/sdb1', '/dev/sdb5', or other similar names)
[16:22] <Boondoklife> FrEaKmAn_: diff should do that for ya.
[16:22] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: you can use diff
[16:22] <robert__> bernz: yes you are quite right
[16:22] <FrEaKmAn_> thanks
[16:22] <bernz> robert__, the next step is to *carefully* examine the partition table more closely, using fdisk, but *NOT SAVING* anything ;-)
[16:23] <robert__> bernz: ok lets do it
[16:23] <bernz> robert__, 'sudo fdisk /dev/sdb', and then NEVER use command 'w', only 'q' to quit after your inspection... press 'm' for help/menu... you want a list
[16:23] <bernz> robert__, that's done with 'p' (print partition table)
[16:23] <bernz> p
[16:23] <robert__> bernz: i get Unable to open /dev/sdb
[16:23] <lqiang> 为什么登录的时候显示  Couldn't look up your hostname
[16:24] <lqiang> ？？
[16:24] <posixGuru> ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img
[16:24] <lqiang> why show
[16:24] <posixGuru> what is armel
[16:24] <posixGuru> ?
[16:24] <lqiang>  Couldn't look up your hostname
[16:24] <bernz> okay, then there's possible good and bad news: (1) your usb-IDE/SATA/SCSI bridge has failed (big deal, buy another "case"); (2) your HD controller has failed (shit, shit, shit! call forensics if you want to save stuff)
[16:25] <bernz> (good *or* bad, that is)
[16:26] <billybigrigger> can someone help me out here, i've been away from the internet for awhile, now my system is far behind in updates, so i went to update today and apt is complaining about dependancy problems with libmobiledevice
[16:26] <billybigrigger> here's my pastebin, now i can't upgrade until i fix this problem
[16:27] <bernz> robert__, here's a visual of points of failure:  [HD:platter bend, head crash, physical trauma basically] <-> [HD controller: electronic component failure; firmware bug] <-> [ATA/SATA/SCSI-to-USB bridge: electronic component failure; firmware bug] <-> [USB-to-Southbridge: elec. comp. failure, OS/software bug]
[16:27] <billybigrigger> http://pastebin.ca/1842522
[16:28] <dleon_> why u dont use "aptitude update"?
[16:28] <robert__> bernz: thanks. so these are the possible issues with the usb drive?
[16:28] <bernz> robert__, you might want to unplug your USB drive, then 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then plug in drive, and watch the events for anything "suspicious"
[16:29] <robert__> bernz: will do ..gimme a sec..
[16:29] <ChogyDan> !lucid | billybigrigger
[16:29] <bernz> robert__, yeah, it's totally possible... i've had USB-IDE bridges fail before, especially back in the day, when they were more "new"
[16:29] <littlegirl> billybigrigger: Try sudo apt-get -f install libimobiledevice0
[16:29] <posixGuru> I am repeating my question: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-armel+imx51.img: what is
[16:29] <posixGuru> areml?
[16:30] <posixGuru> armel
[16:30] <arathald> robert__: im back, did you manage to start pulling an image?
[16:30] <bernz> posixGuru, it sounds like a corruption of 'atmel' for ARM processors
[16:30] <bernz> posixGuru, at the very least, it's a "special" build for a "weird" processor
[16:30] <robert__> arathald: can't make image casue can't see device
[16:30] <wazzaaaaa> !armel
[16:30] <eremite> posixGuru: ARM is a processor architecture used in a variety of applications
[16:30] <robert__> bernz has been helping me troubleshoot
[16:31] <ChogyDan> posixGuru: I think it is an architecture
[16:31] <arathald> robert__: can't see /dev/sdb anymore at all?
[16:31] <posixGuru> eremite, I know about ARM
[16:31] <bernz> arathald, it sounds like the problem is pretty deep; fdisk can't get at the partition table
[16:31] <puser> nibbler: wammu, I liked this program a lot, ...but do you know any program to send USSD requests (to check balance, remaining package usage, etc.)
[16:31] <bernz> arathald, that is, robert has tried 'sudo fdisk /dev/sdb' just to look at it more closely, and it failed attempting to 'hook' the drive
[16:32] <robert__> i pasted the output in ubuntu psate
[16:32] <arathald> bernz: if the partition table is corrupted, it might do that, but you should still be able to pull an image
[16:32] <robert__> bernz & arathald: did you guys see the post?
[16:32] <arathald> bernz: at very least with dd_rescue or dc3dd if there's corruption or certain kinds of physical damage
[16:32] <bernz> posixGuru, as atmel makes a lot of ARM processors, they sometimes put a little twist on things, and maybe you then need a very specific "armel" build to run on such processors to take advantage of the customizations done by atmel
[16:33] <arathald> robert__: repost, im not going to search through my log
[16:33] <bernz> arathald, yes, cloning the drive with 'dd' is worth a try, i agree
[16:33] <bernz> arathald, what about just ripping sector 0 (partition table); are there any tools that can examine partition tables as bin files?
[16:33] <arathald> i just dealt with a hard drive failure yesterday, this stuff is frech in my mind
[16:34] <arathald> bernz: im not sure, im not a data recovery expert, i suppose if you know enough about partition tables, you can look at the hex
[16:34] <robert__> Mar 16 12:29:36 robert-desktop kernel: [15606.081013] usb 1-1.4: USB disconnect, address 7
[16:34] <robert__> Mar 16 12:29:47 robert-desktop kernel: [15617.472069] usb 1-1.4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8
[16:34] <arathald> robert__: pastebin, not in the channel
[16:35] <robert__> how do i paste bin?
[16:35] <arathald> pastebin.org
[16:35] <bernz> arathald, eh... i like assembly programming; that's as deep as i go in terms of "looking at hex" ;-)
[16:35] <Wackler1> Due to a sound problem I think, i killed my system... Is there a way to just reinstall Ubuntu... without touching my data... and I don't care about my apps or so...
[16:35] <Myrtti> !pastebin | robert__
[16:36] <arathald> bernz: ive had to do machine code programming before (for class, we didn't have an assembler because we were using a custom architecture), slogging through hex doesn't intimidate me anymore :P
[16:36] <bernz> robert__, okay, so your USB-ATA/SATA/SCSI/whatever bridge is probably fine (the case); thus, if it's at all hardware-related, it would be the disk controller, but... arathald's suggestion of 'dd' (or similar) is the best
[16:36] <CalmvsKhaos> whats the name of the network manager gnome uses? and how would i install that from my ubuntu disk? I have no internet on my other box, something like apt-cdrom install <package>?
[16:36] <bernz> arathald, it's not intimidation, it's tedium ;-)
[16:37] <robert__> bernz: ok..sounds like a plan
[16:37] <xangua> CalmvsKhaos: gnome-network-manager ; you can install it from ubuntu cd/dvd
[16:37] <bernz> arathald, i'm not as young as i used to be, and now getting *too* nitty-gritty isn't as spellbinding as it once was :-D
[16:37] <arathald> heh
[16:37] <arathald> fair enough
[16:37] <robert__> bernz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/396235/
[16:37] <bernz> robert__, be *very* sure of your command-line when using 'dd' or similar low-level tools
[16:37] <arathald> yes, defintely
[16:38] <CalmvsKhaos> xangua, im trying sudo apt-cdrom install gnome-network-manager it says sudo: Unable to resolve host seanbrystone-desktop
[16:38] <xangua> open synaptic or software origins and add it CalmvsKhaos
[16:38] <arathald> if you flip if and of youll end up killing your disk
[16:38] <arathald> dd_rescue is a *little* better about these things
[16:38] <bernz> robert__, yeah, everything looks normal, from that pastebin
[16:38] <arathald> but dc3dd uses dd syntax
[16:38] <Oasa> as i dont have a dvd /cd rom...
[16:38] <Oasa> i would like to boot a cd/dvd from another computer via LAN. how do i do it ?
[16:39] <Oasa> i selected Network BOOT from bios but it doesnt help
[16:39] <robert__> bernz: now for dd
[16:39] <nibbler> puser: no, sorry.
[16:39] <bernz> okay, robert__, a cursory Web search has revealed something you might want to try: 'TestDisk'... tool for recovering busted partitions, etc
[16:40] <bernz> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[16:40] <bernz> never tried it myself, can't vouch for it, but it might help, even just a bit
[16:40] <CalmvsKhaos> whats the name of the network manager gnome uses? and how would i install that from my ubuntu disk? I have no internet on my other box, something like apt-cdrom install <package>?
[16:40] <Boondoklife> Oasa: I have never heard of anyone doing that.  Check out bacula that is what I use.
[16:43] <CalmvsKhaos> omg whats the syntax to install ONLY FROM CDROM i need gnome's netowrking manager back I installed wicd, wicd no working, so i need gnomes networking manager back please
[16:43] <tyler_d2> epaphus2: I am using keepassx and its pretty good
[16:43] <Boondoklife> Oasa: wow talking to myself lol, that was meant for you oasa.
[16:43] <arathald> CalmvsKhaos: i don't know offhand, how about ask google?
[16:43] <TomFarr> [Green] is here?
[16:43] <ChogyDan> CalmvsKhaos: what cd? alternate or live?
[16:43] <robert__> bernz: i am going to get a blanck usb and test dd..thanks and i'll keep yall posted
[16:44] <CalmvsKhaos> ChogyDan, live
[16:44] <ChogyDan> CalmvsKhaos: it may not be on there
[16:44] <CalmvsKhaos> i have an alternate too but not sure its 64 bit
[16:44] <TomFarr> 10.04 is good?
[16:44] <CalmvsKhaos> ChogyDan, ok how would i add ONLY gnome's networking app to a usb stick or something so i can sneakernet it over to my broken box?
[16:45] <bernz> robert__, cool, good luck... here are some tips before you go: the partition table lives at the "front" (usually sector 0) of drives; it contains a mapping of partitions (where they start, end, etc); if you "steal" a copy of it by copying sector 0 (source) with 'dd', to a file (dest), you can examine the file (the Internet will tell you how to make sense of it; yes, it's nasty, but do-able)
[16:45] <tyler_d2> CalmvsKhaos: whats wrong with sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[16:45] <Oasa> Boondoklife : Can you simplify. I am a newbie
[16:45] <CalmvsKhaos> no internet tyler_d2
[16:46] <CalmvsKhaos> tyler_d2, ohhh wait i think that worked :)
[16:46] <bernz> CalmvsKhaos, technically, you can edit your 'sources.list', and temporarily remove all net-based sources, and add/leave the CDROM-based ones
[16:46] <tyler_d2> CalmvsKhaos: if your source is set to cd using sources, then it should grab it from there
[16:46] <CalmvsKhaos> some reason aptitude worked, but apt-get didnt
[16:46] <CalmvsKhaos> :)
[16:46] <ChogyDan> CalmvsKhaos: network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[16:46] <bernz> CalmvsKhaos, always back up the original file first, though, so it's easy to get it back when you need too .... e.g. 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.as_of_today's_date'
[16:47] <Boondoklife> Oasa: Ok in order to do what I am talking about, You need a server (which houses the computer images) and it has to be setup with tftp in order to share the images. From there if you follow the walkthrough on the bacula site it will show you how to setup the client and even some of the server stuff.
[16:47] <bernz> 'too'->'to' (good lord, i'm getting stupid)
[16:47] <lente> hi there. I'm on my way to configure my kernel. (using 2.6.26 source) I figured out that my cpu has the "AMD K10" arch. This kernel doesnt support optimization for this arch. Which shell I choose?
[16:48] <ChogyDan> lente: are you on hardy?
[16:48] <lente> yes
[16:49] <ChogyDan> lente: ok, I was going to ask, "why not use a later kernel?"  :)
[16:49] <Oasa> Boondoklife : Well I will give it a try.
[16:50] <bernz> aiiiight, i've got some drives shared on my LAN through samba, and i want them to be accessible through "standard" paths; there are several options; can anyone recommend one, and the reasons behind it? i'm currently eyeing 'autofs'
[16:51] <lente> k will try. What if it isnt supported either? Choosing k8 (single core) or core2/xenon (which is intel)
[16:51] <ccmonster> hey guys, i added the new amarok repository to my Ubuntu sources then did a sudo apt-get update  and then upgrade and now I have 2 unmet dependencies..
[16:51] <ccmonster> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:51] <bernz> (i.e. most apps don't support "smb://servername/sharename/whatever"; i want access via something like "/mnt/net/servername/sharename" or similar)
[16:51] <ccmonster>   consolekit: Breaks: udev (< 147) but 147~-6.1 is installed
[16:51] <ccmonster>   libudev0: Depends: udev (= 151-3) but 147~-6.1 is installed
[16:52] <ChogyDan> lente: I thought at some point they got rid of that, and just put all the optimizations into modules that are loaded at run time.
[16:52] <Boondoklife> bernz: look under ~/.gvfs
[16:52] <mdasilva> hey guys, im running into "too many open files" errors even after increasing fs.file-max and limits.conf... any ideas?
[16:53] <lente> k thx goodye
[16:53] <bernz> Boondoklife, omg, niiiiiiice! cheers
[16:54] <epaphus2> Hello is it possible to hide the System menu for unpriviledged users?
[16:54] <bernz> Boondoklife, i've only got one share listed there, though, and it's one i've already accessed another way (via "smb://..." in nautilus)
[16:54] <bernz> Boondoklife, how did it get there, and how do i force other shares to appear there without first hitting them another way?
[16:54] <oddy> hi, is there a way to get rid of pulse audio but keep the gnome volume functionality? cos pulse audio mucks up loads of stuff but without it i change the volume
[16:55] <Boondoklife> bernz: network shares should show up there if you got to them via nautilus
[16:56] <bernz> Boondoklife, okay, that *is* useful, though what i'd like is something that automounts network shares that were visible at boot time, and leaves them mounted (branching off a common spot, preferably starting at '/mnt')... any ideas?
[16:56] <bernz> (i mean without having to visit them first in nautilus)
[16:56] <Oasa> I have a CD which is bootable. If i make an iso file and WRITE it to a usb drive using USB IMAGE WRITER. Is it possible that The usb will work the same way CD works ? I mean it will boot and install the OS ?
[16:56] <ZykoticK9> bernz, add your shares to fstab and they will be mounted at boot
[16:57] <Boondoklife> bernz: only option I could think of would be putting them in the fstab, or a bash script to mount them with gvfs when you log in
[16:57] <urlwallace> good morning  Im running ubuntu 9.1.0 (love it). Im experiencing " mini-freezes on and off every 6 minutes or so..this is happening when viewing a video in 64 bit flash beta .  Is there a fix for this..thank you
[16:57] <arathald> bernz: i was going to suggest a bash script... i assume you mean that you won't know exactly what they are, which would preclude adding them to fstab?
[16:57] <dj_segfault> Oasa: No. but Linux has a tool to create a bootable USB drive.  System --> Administration --> USB startup disk creator
[16:57] <ccmonster> anyone?
[16:58] <arathald> ccmonster: anyone what?
[16:58] <bernz> ZykoticK9, arathald, Boondoklife, okay, i will figure out how to add them to fstab; they are consistent (same server, same share names, permissions, etc), so it shouldn't be that tricky
[16:58] <ccmonster> just having an issue with broken dependencies but -f install and all that isn't doing it.
[16:58] <CalmvsKhaos> whats the command to see if you have a package installed?
[16:58] <dj_segfault> CalmvsKhaos: dpkg-query -l
[16:58] <Oasa> dj_segfault: I dont have that I am using hardy. Plus I have an application UNETBOOT
[16:58] <Oasa> ?
[16:59] <Boondoklife> bernz: fstab can be a lil wonky for samba shares in my experience but good luck.
[16:59] <om26er> Oasa, that would be unetbootin?
[16:59] <om26er> ok
[16:59] <Besogon> Hello. What have everybody got in fstab file at the strings mentioned about "/media". I'm interested in default values which make ubuntu.
[16:59] <Oasa> yes om26er
[16:59] <bernz> Boondoklife, yeah, it's kind of a bitch, i agree... i'm looking at my fstab right now, and i'm thinking i need a path that already works, in order to refer to it... i guess it's off to the Web for some reading about samba and how it "advertises" its shares
[17:00] <ccmonster> arathald, i have this :
[17:00] <Oasa> om26er I remember using that to write Gparted LIVE
[17:00] <ccmonster> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:00] <ccmonster>   consolekit: Breaks: udev (< 147) but 147~-6.1 is installed
[17:00] <ccmonster>   libudev0: Depends: udev (= 151-3) but 147~-6.1 is installed
[17:00] <arathald> ccmonster: stop right htere
[17:00] <ccmonster> k
[17:00] <CalmvsKhaos> dj_segfault, it says rc next to network-manager-gnome does that mean its installed?
[17:00] <FloodBot4> ccmonster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <arathald> ccmonster: pastebin
[17:00] <ccmonster> yea..one sec.
[17:00] <Boondoklife> bernz: hit the forums, I know its there
[17:00] <arathald> ccmonster: don't paste into the channel
[17:00] <bernz> (once something is added to fstab, though, it always works, which rules)
[17:00] <bernz> Boondoklife, cool, will do
[17:00]  * bernz has a love-hate relationship with fstab
[17:01] <lolita> ola
[17:01] <arathald> bernz: yeah, if they're consistent, fstab is by far the most correct tool
[17:01] <arathald> (sorry, im behind by a few minutes)
[17:01] <lolita> xoa
[17:01] <lolita> xao
[17:01] <ccmonster> http://pastie.org/872300
[17:01] <Guest63681> newbie here....
[17:02] <Guest63681> newbie
[17:02] <dj_segfault> CalmvsKhaos: I think that means its marked for removal
[17:02] <Guest63681> how to install my asus cdrw 5524a in ubuntu???
[17:02] <Guest63681> anybody can help?
[17:02] <ccmonster> umm, just pop it in
[17:02] <eremite> Does anyone know an app that works like CCleaner for Windows does?
[17:02] <ccmonster> and do a sudo apt-get update
[17:02] <ccmonster> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:03] <ccmonster> chances are, that burner should work out of the box.
[17:03] <haakon87> eremite: Janitor
[17:03] <eremite> haakon87: it doesn't seem to clean up as much as CCleaner does, and not the same kind fo files it seems.
[17:03] <Guest63681> computer doesn't recognize my cdrw ...
[17:04] <haakon87> eremite: What sort of files do you want cleaned up?
[17:04] <Guest63681> sudo apt-get doesn't do anything
[17:04] <arathald> ...
[17:04] <Oasa> Please help me. I dont know what to do. I formatted my xp drive so that i can install win 2000. Now i dont know what to do because my CD/ROM drive doesnt work. I can use my friends computer to make an iso file. and is it possible to WRITE it to a usb using unetbootin . WIll that work as normal ? please help me. I am using hardy heron
[17:04] <ccmonster> any idea arathald ?
[17:04] <Guest63681> i want ot burn an iso with brasero but he doesn't recognize my cdrw asus 5224a
[17:04] <arathald> well, good, because that's not the commanbd you wee told to run, Guest63681
[17:05] <arathald> *Command
[17:05] <eremite> haakon87: all caches, cookies, unused files and orphans, etc.  Janitor does not seem to get them all.
[17:05] <arathald> ccmonster: what command are you running to get that?
[17:05] <Nollog> Oasa: Not sure about 2k, xp would.
[17:05] <ccmonster> sudo apt-get -f install
[17:05] <flotopoco> heloo
[17:05] <flotopoco> hello
[17:05] <ccmonster> hola.
[17:05] <flotopoco> hola
[17:06] <deostroll> hi, which is a good download manager for ubuntu...it should be able to pause and resume downloads n stuff...
[17:06] <haakon87> caches that the package manager would download can be done via the aptitude/apt-get programs.
[17:06] <pinux> hello all :)
[17:06] <Guest63681> anybod y know how to make my ubuntu recognize my asus cdrw??
[17:06] <flotopoco> its my first time whit linux, and i had a problem whit ubuntu 9.10 after installed
[17:06] <Oasa> Nollog : What about Vista or Windows 7 ?
[17:06] <bitsmart> how can I tell if my linux swap partition is mounted and working?
[17:06] <haakon87> Other than that, you'd have to create the shellscripts yourself.
[17:06] <haakon87> AFAIK at least.
[17:07] <pinux> can anyone help me out with installing open game panel ? on ubuntu 9.1
[17:07] <Nollog> Oasa: they'd work.
[17:07] <Oasa> Nollog : I have Vista, WIn 7 and 2000 . So any of this will work ? this is for my mom n dad as they use only Windows
[17:07] <Oasa> Nollog : SO which one should i go for ?
[17:07] <c3a1> hi, anybody here have ThinkPad T510 with ubuntu 9.10? I have some problem freezing system at absolutely random time :(
[17:07] <Nollog> 7
[17:07] <Krahazik> I am new to Linux and just installed Ubuntu, how do I log into root?
[17:07] <Oasa> krahazik : You cannot
[17:07] <flotopoco> when i finished install, reset the pc and do not start ubuntu and appears a text "Ubuntu 9.10 my name  tty1"  Mu name login: " what i can do?
[17:07] <Krahazik> I need to
[17:07] <Oasa> krahazik : you will have to enable then
[17:07] <arathald> bitsmart: swapon -s
[17:07] <Krahazik> how?
[17:08] <arathald> ccmonster: have you tried apt-get check?
[17:08] <Oasa> krahazik :  YOu can use sudo rights.
[17:08] <ccmonster> nope
[17:08] <ccmonster> one sec
[17:08] <haakon87> sudo -i for shell, but you really should just do sudo command to run a command as root, or gksudo program to run a graphical program as root.
[17:08] <Nollog> sudo su - I usually do to use root
[17:08] <pappino> sym
[17:08] <flotopoco> i cant use commands
[17:08] <Oasa> System ->Admin->Users and groups and then you can enable root (ITs not recommended)
[17:08] <ccmonster> ok arathald , exact same thing spit out to me.
[17:08] <flotopoco> tell me flotopoco to i stand you speak to me
[17:08] <haakon87> If you have some sort of emergency, booting into single user mode would grant you all of Ubuntu's rootly powers, but that's a bad idea.
[17:09] <arathald> Krahazik: if you *really* want to enable the root account, you can sudo passwd to set the password and enable the root account, but 99% of the time, sudo-ing the command you want is much better, you'll likely end up breaking something if you log into root
[17:09] <Krahazik> well root seams ot be needed for a lot of things
[17:09] <Krahazik> IE, installing my motherboard drivers
[17:09] <arathald> Krahazik: so that's how you do it, but I very strongly advise against it
[17:09] <Guest63681> newbie...
[17:09] <arathald> Krahazik: sudo the command if you need to
[17:09] <bitsmart> arathald dev/sda5   partition   size   3004112   Used 0  Priority -1    does that sound right to you?
[17:09] <Guest63681> how can i install my asus cdrw 5224a in ubuntu????????
[17:10] <Evil_Otto> how can you use one ?
[17:10] <arathald> bitsmart: sure, that means you have /dev/sda5 used as swap
[17:10] <Slart> Krahazik: you don't need to enable the root login to use the root account.. sudo is the way to go.. it can do everything that an actual root login can do
[17:11] <deostroll> any1 heard of gwget?
[17:11] <bitsmart> arathald ok, now I just have to figure out why I'm getting mount errors at bootup, the swap entry in fstab was my first idea
[17:11] <Slart> deostroll: yes
[17:11] <Nollog> a wget gui?
[17:11] <Nollog> I think I sawed that before.
[17:11] <bitsmart> arathald because it is mounted with UUID
[17:11] <arathald> bitsmart: pastebin your fstab if you want me to take a look
[17:11] <Guest63681> scdc
[17:11] <deostroll> slart: hw does gwget support pause n resume downloading...
[17:11] <arathald> bitsmart: or if its a uuid problem, i probably wouldnt be able to do much from here
[17:11] <ccmonster> any clues..>?
[17:11] <Guest63681> how can i install my asus cdrw in ubuntu???
[17:12] <Slart> deostroll: now why didn't you ask that question to the channel the first time?
[17:12] <arathald> s/any1/anyone/
[17:12] <deostroll> slart: want to know good download managrers..
[17:12] <bitsmart> arathald: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/A0uqT4ZM
[17:12] <Oasa> deostroll : firefox is nice :D
[17:12] <Guest63681> ubuntu doesn"t recognize my cdrw???,
[17:12] <deostroll> slart: i don't understand how it supports the pause and resume downloading feature...
[17:13] <Slart> deostroll: no.. I meant.. why did you have to ask the first question (if any1 heard of gwget).. you clearly had another question in mind..
[17:13] <Tharok> Just got introduced to Dropbox, and it hit me. Is there no way to install a server application on an debian/ubuntu machine that acts like a file synch server, open the ports towards the internet and then synch it from any computer? Basically I would have an unlimited Dropbox and not having to upload to their servers (limiting bandwidth etc)
[17:13] <Slart> deostroll: try asking the channel again.. "Does gwget support pause and resume of downloading?"
[17:14] <Guest63681> hello guys...
[17:14] <Guest63681> dvdv
[17:14] <Slart> Tharok: sure.. rsync comes to mind for the backend.. and a web gui on top of that
[17:14] <Apache_33> good afterwards  ladies and gentleman
[17:14] <deostroll> slart: suppose if my downloading got interrupted, how can i resume it the next day (for e.g.) [not very particular with gwget tho]
[17:14] <Slart> deostroll: ask the channel.. not me
[17:15] <unixp> what can i do if i want to mount an iso file an it comes:  CD-ROM is NOT in ISO 9660 format
[17:15] <Guest63681> anybody know how to install a cdrw in ubuntu??????? i'm really stuck please help!!!
[17:15] <lullabud> deostroll: gwget has a resume feature.  use it.  if your download gets cancelled, use it again and it will resume from the partial file.
[17:15] <om26er> !repeat | Guest6309
[17:15] <Slart> unixp: not really sure if ubuntu can handle it if it isn't a proper iso file
[17:16] <deostroll> is it true that wget has a pause and resume downloading feature?
[17:16] <arathald> bitsmart: that looks fine, assuming your uuid is correct
[17:16] <Slart> unixp: what is it? some windows game?
[17:16] <lullabud> deostroll: gwget also has a retry option (the --tries= flag) that will make it retry if the download gets canceled before completion.
[17:16] <arathald> s/Guest6309/Guest63681/g
[17:16] <Tharok> Slart , I think I forgot to mention I'd like it to be possible to run under windows as well (one of the top benefits of dropbox) and I could skip the webgui aswell
[17:16] <bitsmart> arathald ok thanks, do I have to use UUID? or can I just do /dev/sda5 swap etc?
[17:17] <lullabud> <3 dropbox
[17:17] <unixp> Slart, yes
[17:17] <unixp> Slart, warcraft 3 exe
[17:17] <arathald> bitsmart: you could so /dev/sda5 if its not going to be changing, whenever i write an fstab from scratch, i use /dev/sdX#
[17:17] <unixp> Slart, cause lost my cd
[17:17] <arathald> s/cause/because/
[17:17] <yolinda> olaaa
[17:17] <Slart> Tharok: if you ask me what makes drop box so neat it isn't the storage space or the web gui.. but the clients that are available for it.. those are what I'm paying for.. those might be harder to implement (but not impossible if you really try)
[17:18] <Guest63681> what i stupid chatroom...nobody that can help....
[17:18] <bitsmart> arathald ok, thanks.
[17:18] <bitsmart> quit
[17:18] <blocky> is there a separate channel for netbook remix?
[17:18] <ZykoticK9> blocky, nope, just here
[17:18] <deostroll> Forget gwget. I want to know if wget (the command line version) supports the pause and resume download feature...?
[17:18] <lullabud> deostroll: wget -r --tries=0
[17:18] <blocky> can I install ubuntu on any netbook?
[17:18] <Slart> Guest63681: just to answer you.. you do not install a cdrw.. cdrw is a format.. you could call the physical disc a cdrw but that still doesn't make your question make sense.. try again
[17:19] <arathald> Guest63681: not a chatroom, there are other resources available, and we're all here on a volunteer basis and helping people for free, so don't complain that you don't get something you're not inherently entitled to
 can i marry queen of england?
[17:19] <Slart> unixp: are you sure it's a proper iso file? did you create it yourself? drm might interfere with this
[17:19] <lullabud> deostroll: the man page for wget is great.  you should read it
[17:19] <deostroll> lullabud: suppose if my download got interrupted over the night, how do i try to resume the download next morning with wget?
[17:19] <lullabud> deostroll: it gives examples of ways to do all sorts of things.
[17:19] <blocky> Apache_33?
[17:20] <Guest63681> just want to make ubuntu recognize my asus cdwriter 5224a in brasero to write an image
[17:20] <lullabud> deostroll: i just told you... wget -r --tries=0
[17:20] <unixp> Slart, nope dont created myself.  drm how?
[17:20] <Slart> blocky: you can try installing it on any netbook.. some might have problems with the hardware and so on.. but you can always try
[17:20] <Tharok> Your right Slart, it's a great service. I'll see how long it takes for me to fill 2GB, I might aswell support the great project. :)
[17:20] <Guest9408> wanted to stop back by and say thanks again for helping me get my wifi workin guys!
[17:20] <deostroll> lullabud: k will check docs...
[17:21] <Slart> Tharok: if you write a client that does the same but with local storage I will gladly send you the money instead of dropbox =)
[17:21] <arathald> Guest63681: well, if I had any experience with that, i might help, but I don't so asking a million times won't help you get an answer from me... I'm sure that's probably the case for other people too... while you're waiting, maybe google the device and figure it out yourself
[17:21] <Slart> unixp: some drm rely on weird disc formats.. bad sectors and whatnot
[17:22] <Guest63681> tried google but doesn't giveme good enough results..mostly in foreign languages too...
[17:22] <juan__> hellooo......................................
[17:22] <Guest63681> in didnt want to be mean...but i just want it to work for 5 days now and no succes...
[17:22] <juan__> who knows well LKL?
[17:22] <rautamiekka> What difference does it make if the "bs" parameter with the "dd" software is other than "1M" ?
[17:23] <Slart> rautamiekka: it usually increases speed.. it does larger chunks at a time
[17:23] <vladi> does anyone use conky?
[17:23] <vladi> i need help please
[17:23] <Slart> !anyone | vladi
[17:23] <vladi> ;)
[17:23] <Slart> rautamiekka: if you use values larger than 1M, that is
[17:24] <vladi> ubottu got up on the wrong foot? ;)
[17:24] <rautamiekka> Slart: Which means that I can increase it as long as I maintain sense with not making the number like 100 ?
[17:24] <shafi> does anyone know how to disable data recovery from an external device?
[17:24] <ch0ks> Hi everyone! Is there a way that I can give a directory or file 2 groups and permissions for those groups?
[17:24] <arathald> disable data recovery?
[17:25] <vladi> ;)
[17:25] <ch0ks> shafi You can encrypt the file. What exactly are you trying?
[17:25] <Slart> vladi: nope.. but if everyone started with "does anyone here use a computer?" "does anyone use ubuntu?" "does anyone use conky?" we wouldn't get much work done.. so start by asking "I use conky.. I'm having a problem with this feature." or "I use conky and I want to use colored text" it will be much faster
[17:25] <arathald> does anyone here want to answer a vague, indirect question?
[17:25] <_philip_> how can i start gdebi
[17:25] <_philip_> ?
[17:26] <Slart> rautamiekka: afaik yes.. if you're filling a harddrive with zero's for example, you might as well use larger values
[17:26] <Krahazik> sudo didn't work
[17:26] <xfact> Which is batter media player Rhythmbox or Amarok?
[17:26] <arathald> Krahazik: what are you trying to do?
[17:26] <trism> _philip_: the gui version is gdebi-gtk, or you can just do sudo gdebi your_package.deb
[17:26] <rsk> xfact well pick the one you like
[17:26] <Slart> xfact: the one you like more, of course
[17:26] <Slart> !best | xfact
[17:26] <genii> arathald: Hard to say, until the question has been asked
[17:26] <Krahazik> install my motherboard drivers but it has to be run under root
[17:26] <Krahazik> but i can't log into root
[17:26] <ch0ks> xfact I prefer Rhythmbox but Amarok has a lot of more features...
[17:27] <shafi> ch0ks, I just deleted some files from a usb hardisk, but they could be recovered very easily, some how I wanna delete them permanently
[17:27] <Krahazik> and don't know how to activate it
[17:27] <Oasa> I have a *.iso image. I would like to boot this image how ?
[17:27] <arathald> Krahazik: what command are you running that sudo doesn't work for?
[17:27] <rautamiekka> Slart: Okey. I'm now using dd to fill SSD with zeroes in 2M chunks. To this day it took about 2-3 minutes with 1M.
[17:27] <Slart> Krahazik: you don't have to login as root to install motherboard drivers.. you can get a root terminal by running "sudo -i"
[17:27] <arathald> genii: i was being faceitous
[17:27] <Krahazik> ???
[17:27] <rocket16> Oasa: You need to burn it to CD first
[17:27] <xfact> Ch0ks, thanks, that what I needed, an opinion
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[17:27] <rautamiekka> Slart: (CONTINUING) A 16GB SSD, that is
[17:27] <om26er> woho
[17:27] <rocket16> OAsa: Blank CD
[17:27] <Krahazik> didn't work
[17:27] <Oasa> ricket16 : My drive doesnt work
[17:28] <arathald> Krahazik: would you like to answer my question at any point?
[17:28] <Krahazik> did the 2nd time
[17:28] <Tharok> Slart , Im not sure I like dropbox anymore. It just made me really really hungry on snickers. And Im on a diet
[17:28] <Krahazik> this would be so much easier if i could just log into the gui as root
[17:28] <terry_> Guest63681: Are you sure it is not being recognized?
[17:28] <Slart> rautamiekka: I doubt it will make a big difference if you use 64MB or 1MB block sizes.. but for a TB drive it might be better to use 64M.. at least compared to 1K
[17:28] <Krahazik> what was that arathald im sorry i missed it
[17:28] <Slart> Tharok: =)
[17:28] <ch0ks> shafi Install the secure-delete package and use the sfill for wiping blank space data
[17:29] <arathald> Krahazik: (1) i told you how, if you werent paying attention, thats your fault, (2) what command are you trying to run that sudo doesn't work with?
[17:29] <shafi> ch0ks, tnx, I also found this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tools-to-delete-files-securely-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[17:29] <Slart> Krahazik: logging in to the gui as root is very bad.. for the same reasons that you don't juggle with axes unless you really really really have to
[17:29] <ch0ks> yep, that one can work too. Have fun!
[17:29] <terry_> Guest63681: dmesg |grep cd
[17:29] <terry_> Oh, he's gone... oh well.
[17:29] <Krahazik> sudo and the name of the driver package
[17:30] <ch0ks> So any idea how can I give two groups to a file or directory? plllzzzzz
[17:30] <Slart> ch0ks: I don't think you can do that
[17:30] <Krahazik> some one said use sudo to run the package under root
[17:30] <arathald> Krahazik: tell me the exact command youre running
[17:30] <arathald> Krahazik: being vague will not help us or you
[17:30] <Slart> ch0ks: there are some other security packages that provide more granularity when it comes to permissions.. SELinux and such might be worth looking into
[17:30] <urlwallace> Im using ubuntu 9.1.0 and experiencing infrequent OS freeze ups. is there a common solutiion I canapply. Thank you
[17:30] <Krahazik> ok
[17:31] <arathald> Krahazik: ill be back in 5 minutes, ive gotta walk to class
[17:31] <Krahazik> sudo NFORCE-Linux-x86-1[1].0-0311-pkg1.run
[17:31] <terry_> urlwallace: Can you ssh in from another PC?
[17:31] <arathald> Krahazik: hold that thought for a second, i think i know whats wrong
[17:31] <arathald> be back in a few
[17:31] <Slart> urlwallace: since you're being vague about when the lockups happen we can only give vague advice back.. keep your computer cold.. ie make sure fans are not clogged and so on.. use good memory and check it every now and then.. keep your system updated..
[17:31] <urlwallace> terry_no I havnt
[17:32] <terry_> urlwallace: As Slart suggests, many system lock-ups are due to overheating.
[17:32] <epaphus2> Hello is it possible to hide the System menu for unpriviledged users?
[17:32] <Slart> urlwallace: unfortunately software isn't perfect.. so even if you do all the above there might still be bugs around to make the computer crash
[17:33] <terry_> urlwallace: Is Ubuntu fully updated?
[17:33] <Oasa> I have a *.iso image. I would like to boot this image how ? my drive doesnt work so burning to a cd doesnt work :(
[17:33] <Oasa> I have a *.iso image. I would like to boot this image how ? my drive doesnt work so burning to a cd doesnt work :( please please help me
[17:33] <urlwallace> thank you slart  I will do that I read the recent advice to others on not being specific enough and will try to do so in future (sincerely) thank you again for a great forum
[17:33] <terry_> urlwallace: Is there a certain amount of time before it locks?  (There are a number of things to check.)
[17:33] <Krahazik> ok i have the root terminal window open but now im not sure how to run the file
[17:33] <urlwallace> yes terry_ updated
[17:34] <urlwallace> about every 5 mins mainly when using flash
[17:34] <Slart> urlwallace: you're welcome.. hope you find out what's crashing your computer
[17:34] <sine``> where are default programs installed on linux
[17:34] <terry_> urlwallace: We don't know the age of the PC but might also be a good idea to re-grease the processor.
[17:34] <urlwallace> thank you slart
[17:34] <eremite> sine``,  usually you can find most of them in /usr/bin/
[17:34] <sine``> ok ta
[17:34] <Slart> sine``: all over the place
[17:34] <Salec> hey guys! I finally made the switch from gentoo to ubuntu :D
[17:35] <Krahazik> logging into root would be so much easier, then i could just double click the file and be done with it, i hope
[17:35] <urlwallace> its 2 year old HP 9000 laptop(the one where the nvidea overheats had been fixed)
[17:35] <sine``> i mean comming from windows i know where everything is on windows /program files/   /system/ /system32/ etc for the dlls but comming to linux has put me in the dark with the directorys that i see /etc/ /var/ /usr/ etc
[17:35] <Salec> does ubuntu not have a root account?
[17:35] <Krahazik> im switching from windows to linux
[17:35] <Salec> really confusing
[17:35] <badbandit> good for you