[00:00] <nameless> hi to all
[00:00] <alzamabar> Hi, Is there a motherboard with drivers which natively support Ubuntu? Normally with Windows I get a CD with the motherboard drivers for audio and video, but with Ubuntu I can't. Wouldn't it be great if there was a motherboard with native support for Ubuntu?
[00:00] <Aeonoris> I'm mostly concerned about getting Ubuntu to be able to "see" my other hard drives...
[00:00] <_Oz_> Aenoris: type join #windows
[00:00] <Aeonoris> K, I'll move there
[00:00] <_Oz_> Aeonoris: yeah, they might be corrupted
[00:00] <Dr_willis> alzamabar,  for most motherboards - i dont even have to worry about any drivers under linux.. the onboard sound/video - can be issues.. but normally not the MB itself.
[00:00] <_Oz_> by the sound of it
[00:00] <Twintop> Aeonoris: My experiences if you do hibernate is that it causes problems between the two (files not saving when you switch back to Windows, not seeing the partitions at all, etc), so I didn't know if it was similar. Doesn't sound like it is.
[00:00] <nameless> while i was installing ubuntu, the grub step gave me an error, how i can fix it ?
[00:00] <_Oz_> nameless: describe the error, please.
[00:01] <_Oz_> Twintop makes a good point, Aenoris.  Make sure your XP computer doesn't hibernate.
[00:01] <yellowSubMar> hello?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> alzamabar,  thers the new motnerboards comming out with a mini-linux install built into the bios. :) you can fast boot to a mini-linux os and do things.  Those would be the nifty ones to get for a linux box.
[00:01] <nameless> grub write failure
[00:01] <alzamabar> Dr_willis I'm referring to things like audio and video. I've got an Nvidia, and I'm afraid to say that the NVidia driver freezes on 7.10 GG.
[00:02] <Geoffrey2> i'm building a program from source, it's looking for md5.h  Any ideas where i'd find that?
[00:02] <biouser> Aeonoris, what error messages are you getting when trying to boot ubuntu?
[00:02] <_Oz_> Leads me to a question of my own: what's the best place online to buy linux-ready (ideally, dual-boot for Win XP) laptops online
[00:02] <b_> #debian
[00:02] <_Oz_> ?
[00:02] <nano__> what better, compiz with Xgl or with Xorg server?.....anybody?
[00:02] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, have you tried the "nodeadkeys" option for they keyboard?
[00:02] <foo> I installed fluxbox on ubuntu but I can't right click on my desktop for some weird reason. any ideas?
[00:02] <yellowSubMar> What's that?
[00:02] <_Oz_> alazmabar: have you installed the restricted driver manager?
[00:02] <Dr_willis> alzamabar,  all bets are off with video/audo onboard.. the mb makers could toss about anything on there. :) i perfer to get mbs that dont have  tose onboard.
[00:02] <alzamabar> Dr_willis, same for audio. If I plugin speakers, the sound quality is not very good
[00:02] <biouser> Geoffrey2, have you tried searching the synaptic package manager?
[00:02] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, it makes keyboard work properly
[00:02] <biouser> !md5
[00:02] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[00:02] <Morph3us> Hi everybody, anyone knows how i can access my linux partition from windows vista?
[00:02] <biouser> !md5.h
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5.h - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:03] <nucco> Geoffrey2: libgcrypt11-dev
[00:03] <_Oz_> morph3us: there is no way to do it.
[00:03] <Aeonoris> Niouser: Nothing, boots fine, just that HD issue.  I tried reinstalling, but that didn't help.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> alzamabar, its all about the chipset the mb maker is using for the audio/video. Some work good.. some dont work at all.
[00:03] <Aeonoris> Err, Biouser
[00:03] <biouser> Morph3us, I don't thnik that you can
[00:03] <nucco> Geoffrey2: install libgcrypt11-dev
[00:03] <_Oz_> Very annyoing, isn't it!  Linux is great about accessing NTFS partitions but Windoze won't even acknowledge your linux stuff.
[00:03] <alzamabar> Dr_willis, I do agree. So could I buy an audio card supported by Ubuntu? Anyone you could suggest?
[00:03] <Twintop> Aeonoris: what Ubuntu release are you using?
[00:03] <yellowSubMar> I don't know where to find the option, Lumooja.
[00:03] <nameless> _Oz_: i've checked the cd for errors
[00:03] <nameless> no one
[00:03] <Morph3us> _Oz_, yes, i already do that before
[00:04] <Aeonoris> Twintop: 7.10, I think that's Gutsy Gibbon?
[00:04] <biouser> alzamabar, check the ALSA list, most should be well supported
[00:04] <Dr_willis> alzamabar,  creative has some nice ones in the $40 or less range.  But ive not used any of their newre cards.. I got an old audigy2zs  that ive had for 4 pc's now.
[00:04] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, if i remember correctly, it was under system settings -> regional settings
[00:04] <_Oz_> Aenoris: I guess the only real way to do it would be to use something like vmware or virtualbox for windows and run a little mini linux session in there
[00:04] <alzamabar> biouser, ALSA list?
[00:04] <biouser> alzamabar, you might have to do some building of the ALSA source if you use a more exotic one
[00:04] <Twintop> Aeonoris: You're right. That means the NTFS drivers should be in the Kernel. Do you have any sort of encryption on your NTFS drives?
[00:04] <iceslice> will the ati 8.2 proprietary drivers let me use big desktop with two different monitor resolutions?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> alzamabar, the new creative x-fi have limited linux support at this time.
[00:05] <_Oz_> yeah, if you get into linux/ubuntu you basically want to start avoiding motherboards with integrated video and/or audio
[00:05] <biouser> alzamabar, search ALSA in google
[00:05] <_Oz_> I run an SBLive! card in my Asus mobo even though it has integrated sound
[00:05] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: That's the only way to see those drives?  Bleh.
[00:05] <_Oz_> Aenoris: even then, that might not work.
[00:05] <Aeonoris> Twintop: Not that I know of.
[00:05] <_Oz_> Aeonoris: but that's only windows TO ubuntu.
[00:05] <_Oz_> The other way around should work out of the box (ubuntu TO windows).
[00:05] <yellowSubMar> There is no system settings menu in 7.10.
[00:05] <alzamabar> biouser, looking...
[00:05] <nameless> while i was installing ubuntu, the grub step gave me a grub write failure, how i can fix it ?
[00:06] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, there is under kubuntu...
[00:06] <Dr_willis> onboard video is handy at times. :) in case you have to  build up a low end box. or use an old mb later as a test box.
[00:06] <_Oz_> nameless: hit esc when grub loads and load your default gnome desktop
[00:06] <_Oz_> nameless: then, edit grub/conf
[00:06] <_Oz_> find out what it's choking on
[00:06] <yellowSubMar> Do you know where I could find it using
[00:06] <Twintop> Aeonoris: Are all of these partitions on one hard drive or two? You might try running fdisk on the drive to see if you can see them. I had a similar issue with an external hard drive that got formatted NTFS and had to repair the partition table to use it on Linux.
[00:06] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, just look for the regional settings menu somewhere
[00:06] <yellowSubMar> Do you know where I could find it using gNOME, Lumooja?
[00:07] <nameless> _Oz_: i've downloaded the daily build alternate iso
[00:07] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, i just installed opensuse, but it sucks, so i have to reinstall ubuntu now... :P
[00:07] <larson9999> getting older isn't nearly as fun at 41 as it was at 16.
[00:07] <_Oz_> nameless: follow the steps I described first
[00:07] <nano__> what better, compiz with Xgl or with Xorg server?.....anybody?
[00:07] <markgreene> Hey guys. I am looking for a hard drive recovery util for linux.
[00:07] <_Oz_> see if you can get past the grub error by hitting esc when grub loads
[00:07] <yellowSubMar> hat'
[00:07] <_Oz_> choose "recovery mode"
[00:07] <yellowSubMar> hat's not fun, Lumooja.
[00:07] <_Oz_> nano: they're essentially identical
[00:08] <Lumooja> yellowSubMar, what's not fun?
[00:08] <larson9999> markgreene, i'd go with sysrescd
[00:08] <_Oz_> lumooja: I think he means, having to reinstall is not fun.
[00:08] <Aeonoris> Twintop: Three hard drives.  How would I run fdisk on a drive?
[00:08] <markgreene> larson9999: anything thats not a cd
[00:08] <nano__> _Oz_: i was referring to what would produce better effects, xgl or xserver with aixgl....which option should i select?
[00:08] <_Oz_> Wait a sec, Aenoris -- can you describe exactly how many physical drives you have, and how they're partitioned?
[00:09] <Lumooja> _oz_, oh reinstalling is easy and fast, you have to do that anyway every week when using xp
[00:09] <_Oz_> nano: it'd look pretty much the same either way in my opinion
[00:09] <nucco> nano__ x and aiglx is the way to go
[00:09] <_Oz_> lumooja: heheheheh
[00:09] <larson9999> markgreene, you can install those tools on a hd.
[00:09] <nano__> nucco: how come?  isn't xgl suppose to be the next best thing?
[00:09] <ClintZ28> anyone able to get Ossv4 XFI drivers to work with Flash?  I followed the howto on ubuntu forums...compiling the libflashsupport driver, and creating symlinks, but I've had no luck...audio works with other applications though
[00:09] <nucco> nano__ because xgl appears not to be actively under development
[00:10] <nano__> nucco: can i install aixgl via synaptics?
[00:10] <Twintop> Aeonoris: The hard drives will probably be under /dev as /dev/sda /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc if you're in 7.10. The command is simply "fdisk <drive>", ie "fdisk /dev/sda". Then you can use the commands inside of fdisk to at least look at what partitions are (and their sizes, filesystem type, etc) and figure out which one is which.
[00:10] <nucco> nano__ you don't need to do anything special. it comes by default. it only works depending on your hardward
[00:10] <nucco> hardware*
[00:10] <Twintop> Aeonoris: Be careful though, fdisk canbe used to format your disk.  "What Twintop said," he says.
[00:11] <nano__> nucco: do i need to put in a switch in my xorg.conf file ?
[00:11] <markgreene> larson9999: where do I get the list? I just see the download for the cd
[00:11] <Aeonoris> I have three physical hard drives, I believe theres an old windows installation on one along with possibly an old ubuntu partition on it (I get sorta confused with partitioning), a HD with just ubuntu, and a HD with just XP
[00:11] <nano__> nucco: how can i check to see if my aixgl is running?
[00:11] <nucco> nano__: what is your display card?
[00:11] <nano__> nvidia 6150
[00:11] <danbhfive> Aeonoris: try sudo fdisk -l
[00:11] <nameless> _Oz_: i've hit recovery mode, now i've chrooted the partition
[00:11] <nano__> i have nvidia glx running
[00:11] <nucco> nano__:  check system > preferences > appearance
[00:12] <nucco> nano__: and see the desktop effects section.
[00:12] <_Oz_> so, four HDs, two oldish HDs with possibly a couple of partitions but no big deal for the data there, and then a physical disk with only Ubuntu (important data) and another physical disk with only Windoze (also important data.)  Correct?
[00:12] <_Oz_> nameless: what have you found?
[00:12] <Ralith> I'm having trouble with fglrx on an nforce3 mobo with a radeon X850
[00:12] <larson9999> markgreene, here is the website: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[00:12] <coreyo> does anyone know of a way to disable the "require an active connection" checkbox in the VPN settings in Network Manager?  I can't connect to a VPN while on the Sprint PCS g3 network because NM doesn't recognize my ppp0 connection as an active internet connection.
[00:12] <nano__> nucco: i don't see any desktop effects option.....
[00:12] <oshi> Dumb question.  How do I come back to the desktop after ctrl-alt-f1?
[00:12] <nameless> _Oz_: the whole ubuntu without grub
[00:12] <nucco> nano__: use system > administration > restricted manager to install the proprietary drivers
[00:13] <_Oz_> nameless: it's not showing the windows partition at all?
[00:13] <usr13> oshi: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[00:13] <Lumooja> will ubuntu support ppc in future?
[00:13] <oshi> usr13: thanks
[00:13] <_Oz_> Lumooja: doubtful
[00:13] <nucco> Lumooja: not likely. that support was actually dropped
[00:13] <IndyGunFreak> Lumooja: no..
[00:13] <nameless> i don't have got a windows partition oO
[00:13] <_Oz_> PPC is sort of dying off
[00:13] <Lumooja> nucco, why is that, then i have use some sucky AIX6_
[00:13] <Hilikus> im trying to configure my tv out, when i run Xorg -configure i get
[00:13] <IndyGunFreak> Lumooja: if you need PPC support, use Debian.
[00:13] <Hilikus> LoadModule: Module ztv does not have a ztvModuleData data object.
[00:13] <_Oz_> nameless: ok, my mistake.  So your problem is ONLY the grub error?
[00:13] <nameless> yes
[00:13] <Hilikus> any idea what that module is??
[00:13] <nano__> nucco: im running fiesty fawn and the latest nvidia drivers i could get via restricted drivers were almost 1.5 yrs old; instead i disabled restricted drivers and downloaded newest nvidia drivers and installed them
[00:13] <nucco> Lumooja: everyone uses x86 on the desktop these days :))
[00:14] <nano__> they are running find
[00:14] <nameless> at boot, Grub, error 15
[00:14] <Aeonoris> it says "Unable to open /dev/hdb1/"  when I try to fdisk it in the terminal
[00:14] <nano__> *fine
[00:14] <Lumooja> nucco, i realized that, but i want also servers to use ubuntu
[00:14] <IndyGunFreak> Lumooja: there is an ubuntu for PPC still, but its a community project, not officially supported by Canonical.
[00:14] <_Oz_> nameless: okay, launch a terminal and type "locate grub"
[00:14] <nucco> nano__: desktop effects wasn't a strong point of feisty :)
[00:14] <_Oz_> I'm not at a ubuntu machine right now so I can't remember the exact directory it's in
[00:14] <cheesestudios> hi anyone can help me? and if can speak spanish then better :D
[00:14] <nucco> Lumooja: oh, so there are ppc servers out there? ;)
[00:14] <nano__> nucco : i agree, so what do u think i should do next in order to see if aiglx is working?
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[00:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:15] <wers> do sony ericssons work well with ubuntu? I'm thinking of getting a p990i
[00:15] <Lumooja> nucco, yes ibm system p servers for example
[00:15] <nameless> _Oz_: cannot open mlocate.db etc etc..
[00:15] <cheesestudios> oki
[00:15] <_Oz_> Captain Jack Sparrow!
[00:15] <nucco> nano__: not sure. I would recommend you upgrade if it is not too much trouble
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> no it  wasn't, much better in gutsy
[00:15] <_Oz_> nameless: really? That's strange.
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Oz
[00:15] <_Oz_> you typed "locate grub" and got that message?
[00:15] <_Oz_> Hi Jack
[00:15] <nameless> _Oz_: it's in /boot/grub
[00:15] <nano__> nucco: thnx
[00:15] <eltux> I am trying to install ubuntu onto an external hard dirve, however I cannot format it. (its a Western Digital Passport)
[00:15] <_Oz_> nameless: that's what I though
[00:15] <Twintop> Aeonoris: Don't include the number on the end. That's referring to a specific partition.
[00:15] <_Oz_> chdir to that dir and ls -al
[00:15] <nucco> Lumooja: well, there's debian :)
[00:16] <_Oz_> you see a conf file in there?
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> Lumooja: also, there's an unofficial PPC verison of Ubuntu, not sure how good it is, as its community driven...
[00:16] <nameless> uhm wait
[00:16] <nameless> no
[00:16] <cheesestudios> hi, i have a PC with nvidia 8800 and can't install ubuntu in this PC, i have ubuntu in my notebook and is a great OS, want to intall here too
[00:17] <cheesestudios> anyone can help me?
[00:17] <icesword> does gnome have a windows edition
[00:17] <nucco> icesword: nice one :)
[00:17] <nucco> icesword: gnome is a desktop for *nix systems...
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> icesword: Please clarify that question
[00:17] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: No, three HDs, one oldish one with two partitions, nothing much important there but that's the only one I can "see" and it has ubuntu I'm running on it, another with some vaguely important stuff, but I think I wiped it by accident, that should be the one that used to have ubuntu, and then another that has important stuff and windows on it
[00:17] <oshi> how many desktops do most of you have?   2?  4?
[00:17] <IndyGunFreak> cheesestudios: why can't you install it?
[00:17] <markgreene> larson9999: that will owkr
[00:17] <markgreene> thanks
[00:17] <nucco> oshi: I have four, but recently I've been pondering to increase to 6
[00:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cheesestudios: Were does the install fail
[00:18] <eltux> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a external hard drive but I can't even get it partitioned. Any Ideas?
[00:18] <cheesestudios> Indy : I was looking in forums and all people say that the problem is the graphic card
[00:18] <_Oz_> aenoris: and you  can successfully BOOT to any of these but none of the installs see the other physical HDs?
[00:18] <pawsIRC> osi, just 1 but with 2 monitors
[00:18] <icesword> Jack_Sparrow, wht?i want to use it on windows
[00:18] <Aeonoris> It now says "Unable to open /dev/hdb/"
[00:18] <IndyGunFreak> eltux: yes, install it on an internal drive, cuz its gonna suck when you install it to an external
[00:18] <oshi> nice
[00:18] <Dr_willis> eltux,  ive seen some linux on usb - web siutes/tutorials. You may want to check them out. there can be issues to watch out for..
[00:19] <icesword> Jack_Sparrow, kde is planing a kde windows project
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> icesword: It is an OS not a program, there are ways to run OS's in WIndows if that is what you mean. But a version for windows.. no
[00:19] <eltux> IndyGunFreak: I already have it installed on my pc but I tried to install it straight onto the drive and it messed up my install of ubuntu, thank god I have windows (You'll never hear me say that again)
[00:19] <larson9999> markgreene, i'm by no means an expert on the subject but the few times i've needed such a thing, it's done the job for me.
[00:19] <oshi> I guess I'm just too acclimated to windows....I keep opening everything up in one workspace..heh
[00:19] <eltux> Dr_willis: ok, I can't even get it partitioned, its in FAT32 and it won't go to ext3 or ntfs
[00:19] <_Oz_> Aenoris: ominous
[00:19] <icesword> Jack_Sparrow, thank you ,sir
[00:19] <_Oz_> Aenoris: those drives might be toast
[00:19] <maek> does anyone know of a fix for the disk parking and load cycle count errors that doesn't involve just setting it with hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda - thats horrid for battery life and very scary if you bump the disk while in that state. thanks.
[00:19] <Dr_willis> eltux,  use gparted. delete the partitiosn. make new ones.
[00:19] <oloughlin75> Hello! I am trying to set up moblock and keep getting this pesky error: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/moblock terminated
[00:20] <Aeonoris> Does anyone know how I could at least see one of my hard drives temporarily, so I can save the stuff that I want to another compy on my network?
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. If you MUST run it in windows look into the virtual options.. or kill me for suggesting you try wubi
[00:20] <eltux> Dr_willis: my ubuntu partition is broked at the moment, any windows utilites?
[00:20] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Totally toast, or just the files on them?
[00:20] <_Oz_> just the files, yeah.
[00:20] <Dr_willis> eltux,  gparted on a live cd - is what i normally use
[00:20]  * IndyGunFreak smacks Jack_Sparrow with an Ubuntu Install CD for suggesting Wubi
[00:20] <_Oz_> Ubuntu SHOULD be able to see those drives with no problem, Aeonoris.
[00:20] <_Oz_> Have you run gparted?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> eltux,  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/   has a lot of tutorials/guides/docs.
[00:21] <usr13> Aeonoris: Do what to one of your HDs?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: DOnt bother trying to slice my wrists with a cd as we speak
[00:21] <Aeonoris> _Oz_:  Hmm, I suppose that's not too bad.  All I had was game saves, though I was fond of them...
[00:21] <usr13> Aeonoris: What do you want to do?
[00:21] <eltux> Dr_willis: thanks
[00:21] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: lol
[00:21] <_Oz_> Aenorois: if it wasn't anything TOO important the simplest thing is just to use gparted to format and partition them back out fresh
[00:21] <Aeonoris> usr13: Uh, "see" it.  It won't let me "see" any files on it >.<
[00:21] <usr13> Aeonoris: mount
[00:22] <usr13> Aeonoris: Is it mounted?  or not?
[00:22] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: Wubi is a terrible option but my hope is it will get him started using linux
[00:22] <Dr_willis> eltux,  the onlu linux ive ever gotten to install/work off a pendrive/external disk - is  the latest Slax (so far) :) they are all gettting better i hear.
[00:22] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: i guess...
[00:22] <eltux> Dr_willis: oh ok, I'll try anything right now hehe
[00:22] <Dr_willis> i think i would rather run linux in vmware/virtualbox/qemu or whatever.. then use wubi. :)
[00:23] <IndyGunFreak> i'd rather have my face stomped on by rosie o'donnell wearing golf cleats, than use wubi
[00:23] <Aeonoris> usr13: not totally sure, it says that they're there and have 5gb of free space on them (which isn't true), and that they are empty O.o
[00:23] <Dr_willis> eltux,  with the latest slax3.0 setting up my thumbdrive was easy.  unzip files to the disk.. run their makeboot.bat, :) but slax3.0 is not got all the exctras yet. but it worked.
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis: Please notice I suggested the virtual ways first and after disclaimer offered up wubi
[00:23] <_Oz_> Aenoiris: launch a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[00:23] <_Oz_> Aeonoris: this will NOT format the drives
[00:23] <_Oz_> It will simply list them
[00:23] <_Oz_> See your drives appear in the list
[00:23] <_Oz_> (all of the drives)
[00:24] <oloughlin75> Hello! I am trying to set up moblock and keep getting this pesky error: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/moblock terminated
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  i  just saw this tutorial -- > http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/01/11/run-ubuntu-710-from-windows/
[00:24] <G1015> I'm having a problem playing youtube videos.. every time I play one the entire computer locks up.  Is there a way to fix this? Seems that anything that uses flash freezes the system at random times.
[00:24] <icesword> can kubuntu install mac4lin
[00:24] <usr13> !flash | G1015:
[00:24] <ubotu> G1015:: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis: Thanks, that looks interesting
[00:25] <_Oz_> aenoris: did all of the drives appear when you ran fdisk -l?
[00:25] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Okay, it shows all three drives, yeah.  Evidentally they aren't partitioned like I thought...
[00:25] <Dr_willis> Jack_Sparrow,  it mentions a persistant option to the live cd.. Ive never seen that mentioned befor.. may have to try it out
[00:25] <icesword> can kubuntu install mac4lin
[00:25] <Dr_willis> !find mac4lin
[00:25] <ubotu> Package/file mac4lin does not exist in gutsy
[00:26] <Aeonoris> _Oz_:  two of them have only one partition, another has four....
[00:26] <cheesestudios> IndyGunFreak: ok, i can't install ubuntu for my graphic card. In forums the people says that
[00:26] <icesword> hehe,in source.net
[00:26] <icesword> sourceforge.net
[00:26] <_Oz_> Aenoris: okay, that's good
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis: I have used persistent for ages.. works quite well.. on Dapper it was very useful as that release seemed to run on anything
[00:26] <foo> I can't right click in fluxbox.. I installed it on top of ubuntu 7.10. I need to generate a menu or something? err
[00:26] <DaZ> icesword: afaik mac4lin is theme pack for gnome only :F
[00:26] <IndyGunFreak> cheesestudios: well, you can install Ubuntu, you just won't be able to use Nvidia drivers, you'll need to use the generic driver, which means no compiz.
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis: THe persistent image base was only about 40 meg
[00:27] <IndyGunFreak> you'll have to use the generic vga drivers
[00:27] <oloughlin75> Hello! I am trying to set up moblock and keep getting this pesky error: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/moblock terminated
[00:27] <_Oz_> Aenoris: let's try mounting it
[00:27] <icesword> DaZ, then u mean i cannot install that in kde
[00:27] <_Oz_> You ready?
[00:27] <DaZ> unfortunately [;
[00:27] <icesword> Jack_Sparrow, can i install mac4lin on kubuntu
[00:27] <Aeonoris> _Oz_:  Yeah, sudo mount /dev/hda1?
[00:27] <cheesestudios> IndyGunFrea yeah but the problem is... when start the live CD menu, put start and the linux run but the screen stay in black. the people say that nvidia 8800 is not compatible :S
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> icesword: no idea
[00:27] <_Oz_> no
[00:28] <cheesestudios> IndyGunFreak yeah but the problem is... when start the live CD menu, put start and the linux run but the screen stay in black. the people say that nvidia 8800 is not compatible :S
[00:28] <_Oz_> Aeonoris: chdir to /mnt
[00:28] <DaZ> but there's enough of mac os imitations for kde imo :F
[00:28] <icesword> ...
[00:28] <_Oz_> you can also mount in /media but /mnt is really the right directory
[00:28] <IndyGunFreak> cheesestudios: well, i'm guessing you can get it installed, but you'll probably have to use the alt. install CD
[00:28] <whonicca> how would i go about sharing/streaming media on a computer not on my network
[00:28] <whonicca> my home computer
[00:28] <icesword> DaZ, thank u,where can i download some
[00:28] <Aeonoris> _Oz_ K...
[00:28] <DaZ> icesword: kde-look.org {:
[00:29] <icesword> DaZ, yeah,thx
[00:29] <Toad> hey all. Anyone have recommendations for a motherboard for a core 2 quad? Onboard graphics is fine, but I need dual head (DVI/VGA is ok)
[00:29] <larson9999> G1015, imo flash and ubuntu just don't play nice yet.  maybe linux in general but i've only run ubuntu for a long time now.  i've been trying to make my machines crash free with flash 9 since the beta.  i still have lockups but they're not as often these days.  if i do a lot of flash watching, i'll usually get 2 lockups a day now.
[00:29] <_Oz_> hold one sec Aenoir
[00:29] <Dr_willis> whonicca you mean share from one pc on your home network - to other pc's on the home network?
[00:29] <whonicca> no
[00:29] <whonicca> different ips
[00:29] <whonicca> work home
[00:30] <FourX4Luvn> whonicca: Have you looked into icecast?
[00:30] <danbhfive> _Oz_: if you mount in /media, it puts a link on the desktop
[00:30] <whonicca> FourX4Luvn, will look into it
[00:30] <isidoro1969> hello
[00:31] <FourX4Luvn> whonicca: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_webradio_with_icecast2_ices2
[00:31] <mad_max02> whats the best php writing program for ubuntu ?
[00:31] <mad_max02> I found one named Cakephp
[00:31] <CoasterMaster> mad_max02, I just like to use gedit
[00:32] <DaZ> mad_max02: notepad under wine owns :F
[00:32] <mad_max02> lol
[00:32] <no_mind> where is the index generated by tracker stored ?
[00:32] <FourX4Luvn> mad_max02: Depends on your writing style.  I really like Bluefish.. but there's also quanta, emacs, vim....
[00:32] <mad_max02> anything serious like PHP Developer 2008 ??
[00:32] <nabcore> Does anyone use the acx wireless drivers?
[00:32] <mad_max02> bluefish ?
[00:32] <mad_max02> I'll try and find it
[00:33] <FourX4Luvn> mad_max02: http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/
[00:33] <lyag> mad_max02: You might also try vim
[00:33] <mad_max02> Bluefish is a GTK+ HTML editor for the experienced web designer.
[00:33] <nano__> whenever i run compiz, I get some distorted images that temporarily appear with my mouse ....
[00:33] <mad_max02> its from synaptics :D
[00:33] <nano__> is there any thing special i need to do with my mouse in order to run compiz fusion?
[00:33] <mad_max02> lemme search vim
[00:33] <lyag> mad_max02: There's also seamonkey
[00:34] <cwgannon> ahoy
[00:34] <FourX4Luvn> mad_max02: That's it :)  It also supports PHP, CSS, etc
[00:34] <maximilion__> I got the plugins for gedit instead :)
[00:34] <jack-desktop> whats a program for a remote desktop that i can listen and it connects to their computer?
[00:34] <mad_max02> vim is txt editor ? aint it ?
[00:34] <Starnestommy> mad_max02: yes
[00:34] <jack-desktop> ive tried vncviewer -listen but it just says their ip and does nothing
[00:34] <_Oz_> you still here, Aeonoris
[00:35] <_Oz_> ?
[00:35] <FourX4Luvn> mad_max02: Yes.  It supports syntax highlighting and that's about it.  Very powerful editor though if you can code by hand.
[00:35] <cwgannon> after logging out, i can no longer log back in; i just get stuck at that tan colored screen.  by the way, i'm running 64-bit gutsy and have searched the forums to no avail.  any suggestions?
[00:35] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Yeah
[00:35] <_Oz_> danbhfive: yeah, and that's okay, but just be aware that /media is really for removeable media per the standard
[00:35] <nano__> is there something special i need to do with my mouse so that it works without being sluggins in compiz
[00:35] <Jouva> Is there a command line or GUI tool that comes with Ubuntu to help determine the speed of an AGP port on my system?
[00:35] <mad_max02> I do like to code by hand but it big projects I really like to have layouts and gadgets
[00:35] <_Oz_> ok
[00:35] <_Oz_> go to /mnt and create a new dir
[00:35] <Dr_willis> im not sure that the /media for removeable media - is followed by ubuntu. :)
[00:35] <Jouva> Or any sort of decent system information tool that comes with Ubuntu or one I can maybe get
[00:36] <_Oz_> call it the name of what you want your drive to be
[00:36] <mad_max02> I used to use PHP Developer series
[00:36] <Jouva> And includes info like AGP port speed
[00:36] <mad_max02> but since I deleted windows 100% I'm stuck with replacements
[00:36] <_Oz_> dr_willis: it SHOULD be.
[00:36] <FourX4Luvn> Dr_willis: You're right.. it's not.  Virtually all non-OS related mounts are put there.
[00:36] <DaZ> Jouva: try 'hardinfo'
[00:36] <_Oz_> but I don't really care, to tell you the truth.
[00:36] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: The name that the system already calls it or whatever I want to call it?
[00:36] <_Oz_> using /media is ok.
[00:37] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  file a bug then..  I dont really care either. :)
[00:37] <dsmith> is there a divx plugin for ubuntu?
[00:37] <Dr_willis> I often link /mnt to /media - because im so use to looking in /mnt
[00:37] <_Oz_> aeonoris: create a dir with a character-based name like "ubuntudrive" or "windowsdrive"
[00:37] <dsmith> !divx
[00:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:37] <_Oz_> you will have to sudo
[00:37] <maximilion__> dsmith, just get vlc via Synaptic
[00:37] <cwgannon> if i try to transfer large files to a thumb drive, the transfer freezes and begins counting the seconds remaining up.  the drive has enough room, and i've tried reformatting it.  it works fine in windows and fine in linux, though only for small files.  any suggestions?
[00:38] <_Oz_> so for example, "sudo mkdir /media/linuxdrive"
[00:38] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Okay, created "driveone"
[00:38] <_Oz_> now chmod 777
[00:39] <PeP`> hello, anyone know how I can extract a 3.5gb zip file? it seems it doesn't want to, there is some compression error or so.. I think t isbecause it is so big..
[00:39] <_Oz_> "chmod 777 /media/yourdrivename
[00:39] <dsmith> maximilion__: this is for viewing material online
[00:39] <natlinuxnewb> Slightly OT: does anyone know where ThunderBird keeps its emails? I am transfering some data from WinXP to Ubuntu
[00:39] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: media, not mnt?
[00:39] <_Oz_> either one
[00:39] <Pelo> PeP`, make sure you have enough room to extract it , 2 make sure it is not password protected
[00:39] <_Oz_> using /mnt is essentially equivalent
[00:39] <brokenFUN> hey i get a Glib ERROR** when running a compiled Tilda
[00:40] <_Oz_> but /mnt is "more" proper if you really care about that kind of thing
[00:40] <_Oz_> many don't
[00:40] <PeP`> it's not.. mhh
[00:40] <lusepuster> brokenFUN, what did the error say?
[00:40] <_Oz_> now, aeonoris, when you did that fdisk -l...  could you paste to me in a privmsg the output it gave you?
[00:40] <Aeonoris> operation not permitted...  Eh, sudo it, I assume?
[00:40] <Pelo> PeP`, I assume you have installed unzip ?
[00:40] <_Oz_> yes
[00:40] <PeP`> Pelo: yes
[00:40] <_Oz_> I guess you're in /mnt because in /media I don't think sudo is required
[00:41] <Aeonoris> How do you send a private message?
[00:41] <Jouva> DaZ: That seems to 1) Only give info on PCI and not AGP (though it lists my card, but I didn't look to see if it says anything about the speed) and 2) Crash very easily
[00:41] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Yeah, mnt.
[00:41] <Pelo> PeP`, try just opening it with fileroller and extracting individual files
[00:41] <_Oz_> aeonoris: I'm not registered, so I guess you can't...  just paste it in the channel, I guess...  no way around it.
[00:41] <nano__> Has anybody ever experienced sluggish mouse problems with Compiz?  I am having some "smude" that appears when i move my mouse, anybody have any ideas?
[00:41] <Jouva> DaZ: I select one option, it shows it. Then if I select another section, it crashes.
[00:41] <PeP`> Pelo: ok..
[00:42] <Pelo> PeP`, just to see if hyou can do it
[00:42] <jpeterman> Yo, I got a random problem. And I know, I don't have too much info about it. Over the last few days, for some reason, when I'm browsing FF, it will suddenly lock up. I can use other programs for about 2-3 seconds, and then the entire system freezes. I can move my house around still, but nothing responds.
[00:42] <natlinuxnewb> Aeonoris: What program are you using? usually you can /msg nickname
[00:42] <_Oz_> aeonoris: paste the output of fdisk -l
[00:42] <natlinuxnewb> Aeonoris:  or right click works too
[00:42] <brokenFUN> lusepuster: Glib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.14.1/glib/gmem.c:154: failed to allocate 4294******* bytes
[00:43] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Okay, here goes.  Sorry if this is a bit long:  Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[00:43] <Aeonoris> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[00:43] <Aeonoris> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:43] <Aeonoris> Disk identifier: 0xa104a104
[00:43] <Aeonoris>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:43] <Aeonoris> /dev/hda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[00:43] <FloodBot1> Aeonoris: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <Pelo> jpeterman, try turning off some FF extensions
[00:43] <Freebean> does someone know how i can get solitaire to start in Klondike or another chosen game ?
[00:43] <natlinuxnewb> !pastebin
[00:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:43] <_Oz_> sigh
[00:43] <_Oz_> sorry, aeonoris
[00:43] <sean> hey guys
[00:43] <_Oz_> floodbot is not always... helpful
[00:43] <jpeterman> Pelo, you think that will work? Why would it lock up my entire system? And I haven't added any new extensions since it started up
[00:43] <sean> whats the menu bar at the top of the screen called?
[00:43] <_Oz_> did you have a drive listed after /hda1?
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  if you are a solitare addict - check out Pysol
[00:43] <Dr_willis> !info Pysol
[00:43] <ubotu> pysol (source: pysol): X11 solitaire game written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.82.1-4.1ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 6840 kB
[00:43] <DaZ> Jouva: mine doesn't crash :F
[00:44] <Freebean> ok   thx
[00:44] <_Oz_> sorry about that aeonoris
[00:44] <_Oz_> that was my fault
[00:44] <Pelo> jpeterman, considering the limited amount fo info given it was a likely possibility
[00:44] <lusepuster> brokenFUN, could that be a memory problem?
[00:44] <_Oz_> did you have a drive listed after /hda1?
[00:44] <jpeterman> Pelo, I only have 6 extensions
[00:44] <Freebean> >	!info Pysol
[00:44] <brokenFUN> lusepuster: idk
[00:44] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: I expected it to do that :P  Uh, it printed my whole message
[00:44] <Pelo> jpeterman, just a suggestion
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  my wife is a pysol addict. :) its even out for windows.
[00:44] <jpeterman> Pelo, Ok, thanks.
[00:44] <_Oz_> aeonoris, did you have a drive listed after /hda1?
[00:44] <DaZ> Jouva: but i think i saw sth about agp in it.. :F
[00:45] <jpeterman> Pelo, do you have any ideas of how else to check for problems?
[00:45] <Freebean> how do i get to  >	!info Pysol
[00:45] <Jouva> I couldn't find anything yet
[00:45] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  ! is bot commands..
[00:45] <Dr_willis> !bot | Freebean
[00:45] <ubotu> Freebean: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:45] <_Oz_> aeonoris: /dev/hda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[00:45] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  fire up the package manager, and install pysol to install it.
[00:45] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Uh, hda1, some jargon, hdb1-2-3-5, jargon, hdd1
[00:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:45] <PeP`> Pelo: I can extract all small files, but the one that is 4gb I can't....
[00:45] <DaZ> Jouva: anyway, if you've got nvidia card you can check agp speed in driver settings ^^
[00:45] <_Oz_> do you have any other lines that look like that but with hda2, hda3, etc?
[00:45] <Pelo> jpeterman, flash and java have been known to cause 100% cpu which might cause your symptom
[00:45] <_Oz_> ok, the last one is hdd1?
[00:45] <krim> jpeterman: How often does that happen?
[00:45] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: Did you find the Thunderbird email?
[00:46] <PeP`> Pelo: I'm sure it is a unzip problem
[00:46] <Pelo> PeP`, there might be something wrong with that file
[00:46] <jpeterman> Pelo, krim, Thanks. It started up this weekend randomly and has happend about 30minutes or so after using my PC, unfortunately pretty frequently
[00:46] <PeP`> Pelo: I don't think so.. I'll search the web...
[00:46] <Jouva> DaZ: That's why I want to look up said info, because I'd like to GET an nVidia card or atleast a better ATi card
[00:46] <natlinuxnewb> FourX4Luvn: Nope. not yet
[00:46] <jpeterman> I might add my Network-Manager started randomly consuming 100% of cpu, but I haven't noticed it doing that any of these times, because when it does, it says there's no network connection
[00:46] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Yeah, hdd1
[00:47] <krammer> my computer froze 3 times in 5 minutes forced me to reboot .... any thoughts???
[00:47] <_Oz_> jouva: may I HIGHLY recommend nvidia
[00:47] <_Oz_> do NOT get an ATI card
[00:47] <Jouva> _Oz_: I figured :)
[00:47] <krim> jpeterman: If I were you I'd remove all extensions and see if things change. Since the freezes occure so often it won't take that long to find out.
[00:47] <_Oz_> aeonoris: ok, here's what to do next
[00:47] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: Ok, open thunderbird, go to edit>account settings.  select 'local folders' and it shows where it's set to store them in "local directory"
[00:47] <jpeterman> krim, alright will do. thanks all
[00:47] <_Oz_> type "mount /dev/hdd2 /mnt/yourdrivename
[00:47] <lusepuster> okay I try again - anybody got an idea what can be up with my swap partition, it seems to lose its formatting when try and do a suspend to RAM... I'll have to reformat it with gparted, and it cannot be swapon'ed  afterwards, only gparted seems to be able to activate it
[00:47] <Jouva> But uhh, I still want to figure out what speed my port is so that I can get the right one
[00:47] <_Oz_> "
[00:47] <DaZ> Jouva: .. sorry {: there's too many messages for me to keep up :F
[00:47] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Though I didn't fdisk after the mount, so if mount should have changed it it won't be in there...
[00:47] <Stargazer> "Error (camorama) 'Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection.'" for spc325nc
[00:48] <natlinuxnewb> FourX4Luvn: Thanks for that advice. I cant open Thunderbird. Its on a WinXP HD that cant log in
[00:48] <Jouva> DaZ: That's fine :) I can understand that.
[00:48] <_Oz_> tell me what happens after you try mounting it
[00:48] <krammer> my computer froze 3 times in 5 minutes forced me to reboot .... any thoughts???
[00:48] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: mount: special device /dev/hdd2 does not exist
[00:48] <FourX4Luvn> Oh.. well, of course the path would be different on Windows too then.. Perhaps you could try asking in a Windows channel?
[00:48] <ODBOD> Help: OpenGL Unreal Tournament '99 nvidia tnt
[00:49] <nano__> krammer: there are many many reason that it could be happening
[00:49] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: Oh.. well, of course the path would be different on Windows too then.. Perhaps you could try asking in a Windows channel?
[00:49]  * _Oz_ muses
[00:49] <_Oz_> try it again
[00:49] <_Oz_> type "mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/yourdrivename
[00:49] <_Oz_> just do hdd1 this time
[00:49] <nano__> krammer: try staying in your bios and tell me if you get the same problem (freezing) HAPPENING?
[00:49] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Did it without comment
[00:49] <nano__> Is there anything special that needs to be done with my mouse in order to get compiz working?
[00:49] <krammer> no need for the bios
[00:50] <nano__> the problem is that with compiz everything works fine, but my mouse leaves behind a temporary splatter?
[00:50] <_Oz_> ok
[00:50] <musse> Hi guys i am new user for ubuntu ,,Just wondeed what AntiVirus software people are using with ubuntu.
[00:50] <natlinuxnewb> FourX4Luvn: yeah...How do I see what channels are available on Pidgin?
[00:50] <_Oz_> take a look in "computer"
[00:50] <_Oz_> see if the drive appears
[00:50] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Oh, but it seems that HDD1 is the one that I could already see, heh
[00:50] <_Oz_> oh
[00:50] <_Oz_> what are the specific gibberish names it gave to the other ones in the fdisk -l list
[00:50] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: Hey.. I managed to find something that will help you... http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/releases/1.5.html
[00:51] <maximilion__> dsmith, looked around a little, did you get help?
[00:51] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: Go there and search for "profile folder"  It gives a list of where it stores the mail for various platforms
[00:51] <dsmith> no
[00:51] <ODBOD> I have the nvidia legacy driver for nvidia tnt. I installed ut '99 and everything, but gameplay is choppy/worse than how it played in windows(very well!)
[00:51] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: I -think-   "/dev/hda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS"  is the one I want to mount
[00:51] <maximilion__> dsmith, if opening a URL in vlc is an option, then try that
[00:51] <_Oz_> ok
[00:51] <_Oz_> try mounting that one
[00:51] <_Oz_> same command as before
[00:51] <dsmith> I was looking to see if I could run divx movies in firefox, thankfully I can download them
[00:51] <_Oz_> just /hda1
[00:51] <_Oz_> instead of hdd1
[00:51] <FloodBot1> _Oz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <dsmith> divx plugin is installed according to adept
[00:52] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Same place, or a new folder in mnt?
[00:52] <natlinuxnewb> FourX4Luvn: Thanks for that. thats great. *goes off to see if its in one of those places*
[00:52] <_Oz_> arrrrgh...  floodbot
[00:52] <dsmith> maximilion__: I may try that
[00:52] <_Oz_> same place, aeonoris
[00:52] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: As for what channels are availabe, type '/list'  It will open a new window with the available channels
[00:52] <natlinuxnewb> FourX4Luvn:  thanks again :)
[00:52] <FourX4Luvn> natlinuxnewb: No prob :)  Good luck
[00:52] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Densied, windows marked it to be in use
[00:53] <_Oz_> hmmm
[00:53] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Denied*
[00:53] <emma> I might have done something catastrophic to my computer.  I hope someone can help. I get the strangest warning when I log in now. Every time.....
[00:53] <ODBOD> emma: what does it say
[00:53] <maximilion__> dsmith, heh, only looked for Firefox plugins... seems Opera can do it fine :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516930
[00:53] <emma> This is what it says: User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users.
[00:54] <ODBOD> emma: You'll probably need to go to the terminal and edit the permissions using sudo/su
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  Huh? did you want somthing?
[00:54] <_Oz_> aeonoris: type "mount" all by itself
[00:54] <lyag> emma: chmod 644  $HOME/.dmrc
[00:54] <dsmith> i'' try that
[00:54] <_Oz_> does it list this drive?
[00:54] <Cew27> hello all i am in desperate need of help with my screen resolution
[00:54] <ODBOD> emma: do what lyag said to do. that'll probably fix it.
[00:54] <lyag> Cew27: What is it set on now?
[00:55] <lyag> Cew27: What video card do you have?
[00:55] <Cew27> lyag: its on 1024 x 768
[00:55] <emma> Why on earth would the $HOME/.dmrc file change permisions spontaneously?
[00:55] <Cew27> its an intel onboard
[00:55] <Cew27> i know it can go to 1200 x 800 as i set it to that and then when i restarted it was all messed up
[00:55] <FourX4Luvn> emma: It didn't.   Or do you recommend fully uninstalling
[00:55] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: I'll remove the enters this time...  /dev/hdb2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=
[00:55] <Aeonoris> 5,mode=620) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw) /dev/hdd1 on /media/hdd1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) /dev/hdd1 on /mnt/driveone type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[00:55] <Cew27> lyag:  i know it can go to 1200 x 800 as i set it to that and then when i restarted it was all messed up
[00:56] <jpeterman> !pastebin Aeonoris
[00:56] <emma> FourX4Luvn,  but I've never opened that file.
[00:56] <jpeterman> !pastebin
[00:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:56] <Skfarek> guys, i use sunbird and sunbird doesn't look like GTK...what sunbirde use instead? i don't ave qt libs so what is it??
[00:56] <FourX4Luvn> emma: I'm kidding with you.  I honestly have no idea what could of caused it.
[00:56] <lyag> Cew27: Does that fit your monitor.
[00:56] <Aeonoris> Thanks, jpeterman
[00:56] <nano__> compiz causing temporary mouse smudge marks..............any clues anybody?
[00:56] <FourX4Luvn> Skfarek: Sunbird is GTK.   Could editing that file have changed permissions on $HOME/.dmrc  ?
[00:57] <FourX4Luvn> Skfarek: Eh, for that you'd have to ask someone else.  I've never used it
[00:58] <lyag> Cew27: Try 1024x768
[00:58] <FourX4Luvn> emma: No that wouldn't of done it
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Freebean,  if ya want to chat. its best to do it in the channel. Most people have priv messages set on ignore.
[00:58] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: Yeah. I think all the ones that I can't "see" aren't on that list.
[00:58] <richter> \join ubuntu-br
[00:58] <maximilion__> dsmith, http://www.stage6.com/?cid=divxtopnav worked for me without me installing anything :)
[00:58] <Cew27> lyag: im on 1024x768
[00:58] <richter> aff...
[00:59] <mon^rch> can somebody please help me setup and access newsgroups in ubuntu... trying evolution and thunderbird and having trouble
[00:59] <lyag> Cew27: What are the recommended screensizes for your monitor?
[00:59] <FourX4Luvn> richter: At least we didn't catch you trying to join an animal porn channel or somesuch  *grins*
[00:59] <richter> aff...
[00:59] <richter> no
[00:59] <_Oz_> well...  I guess I don't know why you can't see 'em, really, Aeonoris.  I recommend reading this page: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[00:59] <sp0ro> Is there a channel for the open source linux drivers?
[00:59] <FourX4Luvn> lol
[01:00] <Cew27> lyag: im set to lcd 1200x800 pnp only l;ets me have 400x800 or something like that and its a notebook that runs 1200x800 but im on my tv atm through external
[01:00] <richter> im wisho go to ubuntu-br
[01:00] <richter> wish
[01:00] <jpeterman> Pelo, krim, would disabling the extensions work to try it out? Or do you recommend fully uninstalling
[01:00] <jrib> richter: /join #ubuntu-br
[01:00] <maximilion__> dsmith, I'm using Totem-plugin-viewer 2.20.0
[01:00] <arbir> can anybody help me with installing a theme ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OSX-Tiger+theme?content=56577
[01:00] <richter> thx...
[01:00] <FourX4Luvn> richter: You typed the wrong slash.  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:00] <maximilion__> In FF
[01:00] <arbir> i tried to install theme and it said "copy files" and then nothing happened
[01:01] <mon^rch> most user friendly to setup newsgroups... please?
[01:01] <jrib> arbir: nothing in system -> preferences -> appearance?
[01:01] <arbir> jrib: let me see
[01:01] <Cew27> lyag: i tried to install mint but my cd is buggered so i need to sort the res on ubuntu
[01:01] <FourX4Luvn> mon^rch: Do you have a usenet account?
[01:01] <Aeonoris> _Oz_: And it has the one that I could already see twice, so I guess that worked...  K, I'll look there.  It said earlier (when it told me the drive was in use) that I could force it, using "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/driveone -o force".   Would trying that screw anything up?
[01:01] <mon^rch> FourX4Luvn: no... what's use net?
[01:01] <arbir> jrib: not the one, i just tried to install, there are other themes present
[01:02] <FourX4Luvn> mon^rch: It's newsgroups.. You need a usenet account before you can setup newsgroups in anything like thunderbird or evolution
[01:02] <jrib> arbir: not even when you go to "customize"?
[01:02] <arbir> jrib: when i downloaded this file from this site, it was a zip file containing various folders.. i renamed it to .tar.gz
[01:02] <arbir> jrib: let me check customize
[01:02] <Cew27> lyag: u still there
[01:02] <FourX4Luvn> mon^rch: Used to be you'd get an account included with your ISP account.. but those days are gone.  Now you have to add the service seperately
[01:02] <Freebean> can I just add something after the command  use\games\sol           as in what starts solitaire  . .. to get  say  kilondike ?
[01:03] <mon^rch> FourX4Luvn: i have an isp with a news server... t-bird is NOT giving me a place to specify a news server
[01:03] <mon^rch> FourX4Luvn: can I POST from usenet?
[01:03] <gold44><EMAIL_ADDRESS>in alt-f2, is that a nautilus function or gnome function?
[01:03] <Geoffrey2> oh, this is fun, libsasl2-dev is installed....I can find the needed header files in /usr/include/sasl, but when I run configure, it insists the files can't be found
[01:03] <peleg> anyone knows about an option to add to nautilus fields of permissions etc. ?
[01:03] <Flannel> peleg: what?
[01:03] <arbir> jrib: no .. i dont see anything from the new install.. all old ones
[01:04] <xALEXANDRE> Hi.. Someone have iPhone?
[01:04] <FourX4Luvn> mon^rch: Oh.. Ok.. then open thunderbird, click file>new>account and select 'newsgroup account'
[01:04] <peleg> Flannel: I want to see things like permissions in the list of files in nautilus.
[01:04] <benny_> .it
[01:04] <dsmith> maximilion__: one moment
[01:04] <Cew27> lyag: hello?
[01:05] <jrib> arbir: I just installed it here.  It shows up in "Controls" in "Customize" as "OSX-theme".  If you are not seeing it, what is the md5sum of the tar.gz you downloaded?
[01:05] <xALEXANDRE> Someone already used iphone in linux?
[01:05] <arbir> jrib: how do i check the md5 sum ?
[01:05] <lyag> Cew27: Yes, sorry
[01:05] <jrib> arbir: md5sum /path/to/file
[01:05] <FourX4Luvn> arbir: md5sum <filename>
[01:05] <Aeonoris> _Oz_:  Reading more up on stuff, it seems like if I can just boot into windows for a moment and then shut it down cleanly, it might let me mount them...  Thanks a ton, I'm gonna restart and try that now
[01:05] <Cew27> lyag: i think my xorg.conf is messed up
[01:05] <arbir> alright.. let me try..
[01:05] <Jouva> Ok, I'd like an HONEST answer: If I WERE to buy an nVidia card to replace my ATi card but I'm on a budget, what one should I get? I'm not looking to get OMG BEST 3D GRAPHICS EVER. I want something that won't be generally slow with stuff like just watching a youtube video. I MAY want to run Second Life as well, but it doesn't have to be super fast with that.
[01:05] <lyag> Cew27: You can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:06] <Jouva> I'm not looking for a gamer card. I'm looking for a card that works that I can afford, so WELL under $100
[01:06] <Cew27> when i know
[01:06] <lyag> Cew27: But first back it up:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[01:06] <Cew27> when i gedit it its blanc
[01:06] <Jouva> But I know nothing about the nVidia line.
[01:06] <celi0us> Jouva: 6600
[01:06] <jrib> Jouva: I have a 7600 that I got a year ago and works fine.  I paid 100 a year ago so, I hope that puts it in your price range now
[01:06] <ODBOD> I have the nvidia legacy drviers for my nvidia tnt card. I installed Unreal Tournament 99, and the performance is suffering. It's choppy compared to how it played in windows (very well!!!). Any ideas?
[01:06] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: Just about any new nVidia card out today would meet your needs then.  Don't worry about the model.. just get something that's kind of mid-range price wise and you'll be fine
[01:06] <rael_> My system tells me Flash Player is install but websites tell me I have to install the plugin
[01:06] <Cew27> lyag: when i run gedit "/ect/x11/xorg.conf" its empty
[01:06] <ODBOD> rael, uninstall flash from synaptic.
[01:07] <Siph0n> hey.... i installed php5, apache2, and mysql all seperately... and the httpd.conf file is empty.... does that sound right? i am trying to get php to work with apache
[01:07] <Flannel> mon^rch: You create a newsgroup account and it'll ask you what news server you want to use
[01:07] <jrib> !lamp > siph0n (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:07] <lyag> Cew27: What display adapter do you have?
[01:07] <Cew27> intel 945 i think
[01:07] <arbir> jrib: f7043757b5f6876d25853e2e831c17f9   -- ubuntu to OSX Leopard.tar.gz
[01:07] <jrib> Siph0n: apache2.conf is what is used now, but you need to touch it at all.  Read the wiki instructions
[01:07] <mon^rch> FourX4Luvn: I am seriously frustrated... and NOT a novice! why oh, wny is t-bird not allowing me to specify a news server?
[01:08] <Freebean> info Pysol
[01:08] <lyag> Cew27: If your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is truely empty, then boot the live CD and copy it over.
[01:08] <FourX4Luvn> mon^rch: Newsgroup account is not listed in the account wizard?
[01:08] <jrib> arbir: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OSX-Tiger+theme?content=56577 gives me 56577-gtk-osx-theme.tar.gz
[01:08] <Flannel> Siph0n: apache2.conf, as well as th conf files in sites-available and mods-available.  Ubuntu uses the debian method of apache configuration, not the monolithic one
[01:08] <lyag> Cew27: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:08] <lyag> Cew27: Nothing....?
[01:08] <Freebean> !
[01:08] <Flannel> mon^rch: You need to add a new account, after it asks for your name/email, it asks for your server.
[01:08] <Cew27> lyag: cat?
[01:08] <lyag> yes
[01:09] <Siph0n> Flannel and jrib: thanks!!!! :)
[01:09] <Jouva> Ok right now I just looked in the $25-$50 and the 6600 and 7600 weren't in that range, so that's pushing it for me ;) I did see some 6200s and a 6800LE though.
[01:09] <arbir> jrib: i dont quite get you
[01:09] <rael_> then just reinstalled via the broswer?
[01:09] <jack-desktop> what does grep do exactly?
[01:09] <Jouva> So I'm not sure how well they are.
[01:09] <Jouva> But right now I'm just looking on newegg
[01:10] <jrib> arbir: the file you linked me to is not the one you are looking at now on your computer
[01:10] <FourX4Luvn> jack-desktop: Searches the contents of a text file
[01:10] <arbir> jack-desktop: grep = helps you search for regular expressions
[01:10] <Cew27> lyag: whats cat
[01:10] <arbir> oh
[01:10] <Cew27> lyag: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <ahave> hello room, if i was wanting to setup virtual box w/ ubuntu.. is there a setup guide somewhere?
[01:10] <arbir> jrib: what is the size of your download ?
[01:10] <lyag> Cew27: cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[01:10] <mon^rch> Flannel: actually... it's only asking for that info only if I add a mail account... if a add I news/rss account everything "looks" like it's going okey-dokey... then seems to skip the important part of adding the news server. is it because I installed thunderbird-gnome-support?
[01:10] <FourX4Luvn> ahave: Sure is.. gimmie a sec and I'll dig out the URL..
[01:10] <Cew27> !pastebin
[01:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:11] <ahave> thanks FourX4Luvn
[01:11] <jrib> arbir: 72K, the md5sum is 44e64082569351b7782658d8b358de79 and the name is 56577-gtk-osx-theme.tar.gz
[01:11] <jack-desktop> FourX4Luvn, arbir, what is a simple command i can test to find out what it does
[01:11] <FourX4Luvn> ahave: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/create-and-manage-virtual-machines-using-virtualbox.html
[01:11] <ahave> thanks!
[01:11] <FourX4Luvn> ahave: No prob
[01:11] <Cew27> lyag: yeh that worked want me to pastebin it
[01:11] <Jouva> jrib, celi0us, FourX4Luvn, how does this look: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814136022
[01:11] <arbir> jrib: thanks.. let me find out the page then....
[01:11] <Flannel> mon^rch: When you go to add a newsgroup account, (create account, newsgroup radio button) it asks for your name and email first, then after you hit next, it asks for your server.
[01:12] <arbir> jack-desktop: try this " ls |grep "file name i want to find"
[01:12] <Cew27> lyag: arghh why does ubuntu never keep anything copied to clipboard
[01:12] <jack-desktop> arbir, yea nevermind, i  tried this: jack@jack-desktop:~$ cat cdkeys.txt | grep 7
[01:12] <mon^rch> Flannel: it's not asking for the server... :(
[01:12] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: That should meet all your requirements pretty nicely
[01:13] <wisshh> hi, when i try to boot up form my fw disk i get an error 21... any easy way to fix this? thanks
[01:13] <xALEXANDRE> Someone already used iphone in linux?
[01:13] <mon^rch> Flannel: i am stumpped
[01:13] <Flannel> mon^rch: What does the first page ask?  and then what does the second page ask?
[01:13] <danbhfive> wisshh: I think that's a grub problem
[01:13] <Flannel> mon^rch: Which version of Thunderbird are you using?
[01:13] <ahave> FourX4Luvn, I was actually wanting to install virtualbox in XP, running ubuntu... do you know of a setup guide for that?
[01:13] <Jouva> FourX4Luvn: Maybe not because most people seem to have random issues with it
[01:13] <Jouva> Just noticed the reviews
[01:14] <arbir> jrib: i found the link ... http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mac+OSX+Leopard+10.5+Full+pack?content=72425
[01:14] <FourX4Luvn> ahave: Oh!.. sorry.. No I don't have one.. But go to google and search for "virtualbox windows xp" and I'm sure you'll find a howto somewhere.
[01:14] <Hilikus> when i try to modprob lirc_pvr150 i get a seg fault, is there any way i can re-build that module??
[01:14] <lyag> Cew27: Is the file really empty?  If so, boot the live install CD and just copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the mounted filesystem on the HD.
[01:14] <Cew27> i cant boot from cd
[01:14] <arbir> jrib: but i think, i found a link which gives me some docs
[01:14] <Cew27> that cat thing worked i got info then
[01:14] <mon^rch> Flannel: page 1: type of acct. p-2: acct name. p-3: finish. it's obviously skipping something. why?
[01:14] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: Oh.. I didn't look at the reviews... Hrm.. Lemme see what I have in my system.. It was pretty cheap and runs Second Life just fine...   BRB
[01:14] <ahave> FourX4Luvn, ok. would ubuntu be a linux 2.6 ?
[01:14] <arbir> jrib: let me try those docs and then get back here.. thanks though for pointing out the fundamental error
[01:14] <jrib> Jouva: don't know anything about that particular card.  I imagine most nvidia cards "just work", but google for "ubuntu" and the model before you buy
[01:14] <FourX4Luvn> ahave: Yes
[01:15] <lyag> Cew27: Then the file is not empty. You only need to edit it.
[01:15] <Flannel> mon^rch: p3 should be name of account, with page 2 in the middle asking for account.  Which version of Ubuntu are you using?  What you can do, is add it, then go back and edit the account, and add in the server.
[01:15] <lyag> Cew27: But first back it up:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[01:15] <lyag> Cew27: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:16] <aszwet1> A great guide for setting up RubyRipper can be found @ http://what.cd/forums.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=5984
[01:16] <lyag> Cew27: navigate down to the lines that say "Modes"
[01:16] <MatBoy> I'm figuring out if it's doable now to install kiba-dock on a 64 bits version of the distro... it seems to be a problem
[01:16] <Cew27> lyag: hold on im going to try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:17] <Jouva> jrib: It seemed to be more defects in the quality, like "an odor" or "high pitched noise" from the fan, or "artifacts"
[01:17] <Jouva> Or "DOA"
[01:17] <mon^rch> Flannel: and it's getting hung up on accessing a server that isn't, ahem "specified" (lol) the program is certainly not functioning properly. it's not possible to edit the account settings for a news/rss account. I CAN however add a url to access rss feeds, but NOT news servers. re-install?
[01:17] <Gu_ToOo> how to install modem intel?
[01:17] <Jouva> This one seems to have better reviews: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150107
[01:17] <salah> How large files does ext3 support?
[01:18] <Flannel> mon^rch: I don't know if reinstalling will help any.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[01:18] <ricky_> hello to everyone!!
[01:18] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: Well, newegg doesn't sell what I have anymore, but here's a link to it.  Maybe you could find it elsewhere... http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125156
[01:18] <mon^rch> Flannel: feisty
[01:18] <Flannel> salah: Depends on how it's setup, anywhere from 16GB to 2TB
[01:18] <icesword> hi
[01:18] <bulazeem> what is the easiest way to allow a user to have forward and backward keys on their mouse when browsing with nautilus?
[01:18] <icesword> which dir holds the fonts on linux
[01:18] <Jouva> FourX4Luvn: Ahh that's PCI Express but I'm sure I could find that in AGP.
[01:19] <Odd-rationale> icesword: /usr/share/fonts?
[01:19] <mon^rch> Flannel: I want newsgroups to post to my city site so I can let my city know I am avail. for work
[01:19] <icesword> Odd-rationale, thx,i will check taht
[01:19] <icesword> that
[01:19] <lyag> icesword: There are a few places, but one is:  /var/lib/texmf/fonts/
[01:19] <Flannel> mon^rch: You could perhaps manually edit your profile and add in the server.  Definately file a bug against the thunderbird package on LP
[01:19] <FourX4Luvn> well, even if you can't find that exact one.. I know the chipset it uses is rock solid in Linux and runs SecondLife with no slowdown.  Maybe you could find a different card with the same chipset
[01:19] <mon^rch> Flannel: so anything that can post to a newsgroup and send me replies will be very helpfull
[01:20] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: well, even if you can't find that exact one.. I know the chipset it uses is rock solid in Linux and runs SecondLife with no slowdown.  Maybe you could find a different card with the same chipset
[01:20] <salah> Flannel, ok, on my file system, every files longer than 3-4 GB gets bad I/O error. For example, if I watch a ISO DVD with VLC, suddenly the harddrive starts to make the kind of work sound, and it is really working hard. And nothing answers. What might be the problem?
[01:20] <ricky_> I am trying to install a new wallpaper however I am not able to realize which extension the theme file has to have. Could anybody tell me please?
[01:20] <Jouva> FourX4Luvn: Yep yep, looking now :)
[01:20] <mon^rch> Flannel: name of file to edit and add server?
[01:20] <Jouva> But what's the "GT" in the 6600?
[01:20] <jrib> ricky_: just right click on your desktop and change the desktop background.  Then select the file
[01:21] <jrib> Jouva: #hardware might give you final approval too as far as the merits of the card go
[01:21] <Flannel> mon^rch: Uh, I'm not really sure.  Something in .thunderbird, they may be able to give you much better help in #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org, like what to actually look for and how ot edit and stuff.  But, be sure to file a bug so it can be fixed
[01:21] <Jouva> "Good Technology?" "Gullible Techies"? ;)
[01:21] <Jouva> Okie
[01:21] <lyag> icesword: Also:  /usr/share/fonts
[01:21] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva:  The 6600 GT has higher Clock Speeds than the Standard 6600 and Higher quality memory (Faster).
[01:22] <mon^rch> Flannel: ty for the help
[01:22] <icesword> thx
[01:22] <Falican> Hey, I am confused with using keys with OpenSSH, I have a private key for a user on a remote server which I put in my local id_rsa file but of course now it trys to use that for all servers I connect to (asking for the passphrase everytime). Where am i suppose to put the key?
[01:22] <icesword> for everyone
[01:22] <FourX4Luvn> Jouva: I pasted that from a website forum, so take it with a grain of salt :)
[01:22] <Jouva> Got ya
[01:22] <Flannel> mon^rch: If you don't want to switch servers, #ubuntu-mozillateam can probably help too.  Might be a good place to check out anyway
[01:22] <Cew27> lyag: hi i got it back to 1280 x 768 by reconfiguring the xorg
[01:22] <lyag> Cew27: Very good.
[01:23] <Cew27> lyag: but i want to get it to 1280x800 now
[01:23] <Skfarek> where sunbird locate a calenders file? it should be in Calendar/*.ics i think
[01:23] <Skfarek> but i don't have this dir
[01:23] <ricky_> jrib_: yes but if I want to download a new theme from www.gnome-look.org, what "kind" of theme has to be? In that page I have found MEtacity Themes, GDM THemes,... I have download several themes of diferent "types" however Ubuntu is no recognizing them as suitable themes.
[01:23] <lyag> Cew27: But first back it up:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[01:23] <Cew27> lyag: when i unplug from my external monitor it lets me but then buggers up on restart
[01:24] <Skfarek> i try to find which file sunbird opens via strace but there isn't any interesting
[01:24] <lyag> Cew27: navigate down to the lines that say "Modes" and add "1280x800" to the beginning of each set.
[01:24] <jrib> Falican: you should set that up in ~/.ssh/config.  See 'man ssh' discussion on -i switch (feel free to ask more)
[01:24] <FourX4Luvn> Skfarek: Just search your home directory for *.ics  :)
[01:24] <bulazeem> what is the easiest way to allow a user to have forward and backward keys on their mouse when browsing with nautilus?
[01:24] <Falican> jrib: thnx
[01:24] <Cew27> ok how do i back it up
[01:24] <jrib> ricky_: gdm is the login screen, metacity is the window border, gtk is the controls (like buttons and scrollbars)
[01:24] <komputes> is anyone here good with iptables?
[01:24] <Skfarek> FourX4Luvn: i did, and nothing found for sunbird
[01:24] <Skfarek> really strange
[01:24] <FourX4Luvn> hrm
[01:25] <odbod> PC Specs: 600 mhz AMD athlon/768 mb ram/nvidia tnt --- I have the nvidia legacy drivers working. I installed UT '99, but the performance is choppy compared to when it ran on windows (very well!!) any ideas?
[01:25] <salah> Any other ideas to my problem?
[01:25] <komputes> iptables guru needed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4351707#post4351707
[01:25] <lyag> Cew27: Where you see:   Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:25] <user_> Evening, I am trying to troubleshoot performance on my ATI 9600 with fglrx, urban terror (quake3) is really slow, and turns into slide show when anyone comes into my field of view.
[01:26] <FourX4Luvn> Skfarek: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=397825&
[01:26] <lyag> Cew27: Change to:   Modes  "1200x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:26] <ATG> I have a slightly unusual problem with rhythmbox, and more recently sound playback in general
[01:26] <odbod> user: Do you have 3d acceleration on?
[01:26] <ricky_> So what kind of file is the "Crux" theme that appears at the Appearance Preferences/Themes?
[01:26] <ATG> Whenever I try to play something in Rhythmbox, it freezes at 0:00 and I have to force quit. Also, I can't get sound out of any other applications
[01:26] <ATG> anyone else had this problem?
[01:27] <sp0ro> Is there a channel on freenode for intel driver support?
[01:27] <ATG> it worked fine until recently
[01:27] <user_> odbod: yes i do, OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:27] <user_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series OpenGL version string: 2.1.7276 Release
[01:27] <user_> looks all clever
[01:27] <user_> glxinfo | grep direct - direct rendering: Yes
[01:27] <FourX4Luvn> ATG: Have you tried rebooting the computer?
[01:27] <odbod> user: What drivers are you using?
[01:28] <ATG> FourX4Luvn: Yes, it used to work, now it doesn't.
[01:28] <ATG> I'm not sure what's changed
[01:28] <ATG> been all over google
[01:28] <FourX4Luvn> ATG: Just wondering if some other process is locking the card..... Ok so that's not the issue then
[01:28] <ATG> FourX4Luvn, I'm using an onboard
[01:28] <user_> odbod: newest ati driver installed with envy
[01:28] <norml_advocate> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?  need to activate my broadcom 43xx card
[01:29] <ATG> but I still have a PCI installed. Why didn't I think of taking that out? /facepalm... OK, never mind.
[01:29] <odbod> user: Then I have no idea. Are you using gnome as your x shell?
[01:29] <FourX4Luvn> ATG: try 'cat /dev/random > /dev/snd'
[01:29] <FourX4Luvn> ATG: Kill it with ctrl+c
[01:29] <FourX4Luvn> ATG: lol
[01:29] <norml_advocate> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?  need to activate my broadcom 43xx card
[01:29] <user_> odbod: yes.. performance is just unacceptably bad, I dont know how to troubleshoot..glxgears: 11275 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2254.947 FPS
[01:30] <lyag> FourX4Luvn: ATG: 'cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[01:30] <lyag> FourX4Luvn: ATG: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp
[01:30] <norml_advocate> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?  need to activate my broadcom 43xx card
[01:30] <norml_advocate> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?  need to activate my broadcom 43xx card
[01:30] <norml_advocate> does anyone here know how to use ndiswrapper?  need to activate my broadcom 43xx card
[01:30] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/How_to_get_Broadcom_43xx_Wireless_AirForce54g_card_to_work_proven_in_Ubuntu_Dappe_Drake
[01:30] <user_> shhhhhhhhh
[01:30] <norml_advocate> sorry
[01:30] <FourX4Luvn> !patience | norml_advocate
[01:30] <Skfarek> If the location starts with "moz-profile-calendar://" the calendar is stored internally.
[01:30] <odbod> user: Try using xfce and running the game, see how well it does. If it's the same, you might need to adjust some settings in the game like textures, and details and res, etc.
[01:30] <ubotu> norml_advocate: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:30] <Skfarek> damn
[01:31] <FourX4Luvn> lyag: Gotcha.. my bad, sorry
[01:31] <odbod> user: Or, find an updated opengl driver for the game.
[01:31] <lyag> norml_advocate: apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:31] <norml_advocate> i have gutsy
[01:31] <bulazeem> what is the easiest way to allow a user to have forward and backward keys on their mouse when browsing with nautilus?
[01:31] <odious> hello chaps. just wondering if i can upgrade an alpha to the final release using apt-get upgrade?
[01:31] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: So do I
[01:31] <lyag> norml_advocate: And then get windows driver and  use it
[01:31] <user_> odbod: the game is based on the newest ioquake3, all the resolution / detail is set to lowest level
[01:31] <sp0ro> Is there a channel on freenode for intel driver support?
[01:32] <jrib> odious: ask in #ubuntu+1 but realize it is in development (and thus your computer can explode, etc.)
[01:32] <FourX4Luvn> sp0ro: If someone knew they'd answer you by now.. try just typing /list and seeing for yourself
[01:32] <odbod> user: CPU speed
[01:32] <norml_advocate> where is a good place to get a windows driver?
[01:32] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: The manufacturer's website
[01:32] <norml_advocate> raha
[01:32] <norml_advocate> ok
[01:32] <user_> odbod: 1.5 ghz intel
[01:32] <jrib> !wifi > norml_advocate (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:33] <odbod> user: Ram
[01:33] <norml_advocate> is there a way to turn off the people entering the room?
[01:33] <user_> odbod 512
[01:33] <jrib> norml_advocate: depends on your client
[01:33] <odbod> user: You are being bottlenecked somewhere.
[01:33] <norml_advocate> i am using pidgin
[01:33] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: If you install the pidgin plugin pack, there is a plugin in that to do what you want
[01:33] <odbod> user: And ATI is different for everyone. I got my radeon 9550 to work very well before (though people found that in disbelief)
[01:34] <norml_advocate> ok
[01:34] <jrib> norml_advocate: enable "hide join/part hiding" in plugins
[01:34] <norml_advocate> cool
[01:34] <norml_advocate> your my new best friend
[01:34] <x10-dead> i need help trying to get sound on my gateway solo 5150
[01:34] <odbod> user: But, it just seems you are either being bottlenecked somewhere, OR, it's just the drivers.
[01:34] <FourX4Luvn> jrib: That's not installed by default though is it?  Part of the plugin pack I thought
[01:35] <user_> odbod: Im shocked too.. :D ati open source driver performance is actually rather good, and fglrx was possibly actually better on older fglrx version... may have to do some research on phoronix..
[01:35] <jrib> FourX4Luvn: I don't have pidgin-plugin-pack installed, but it is available to me
[01:35] <Cew27> lyag: well i got it back to how it used to be but still no 1200 800
[01:35] <emma> I keep getting a very weird warning every time I log in now.  At the login it tells me this:  User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users.
[01:35] <odbod> user: ATI doesn't support linux, that's the problem. But, nvidia does. THat's why nvidia seems to have drivers with better support than the proprietary ati drivers.
[01:35] <FourX4Luvn> jrib: Ok.. I stand corrected
[01:35] <norml_advocate> IT WORKED
[01:35] <odbod> emma: Ready for help?
[01:36] <FourX4Luvn> emma: chmod didn't solve that issue?
[01:36] <emma> Yes if you could?
[01:36] <lyag> Cew27: Did you edit the xorg.conf file?
[01:36] <norml_advocate> can i stay here and learn to be a supercool geek too?
[01:36] <emma> The chmod didn't seem to do it.
[01:36] <norml_advocate> i dont eat much
[01:36] <odbod> emma: did you do it as sudo?
[01:36] <emma> no i didn't
[01:36] <odbod> emma: problem #1
[01:36] <lyag> Cew27: Show me the xorg.conf file via pastebin
[01:36] <odbod> emma: sudo chmod 644 .dmrc
[01:36] <Cew27> lyag: i reconfigured it and used a back up to get my mouse working again
[01:36] <emma> Okay..
[01:36] <tracer903> should my monitor be listed in my xorg.conf as failsafe monitor? my tv out stopped working and I'm stuck
[01:37] <FourX4Luvn> emma: then do 'ls -l .dmrc' and paste the result back, please.
[01:37] <norml_advocate> If i turn on remote access can someone just fix my computer?
[01:37] <sp0ro> What does this mean?  "./configure: line 20212: unexpected token 'XEXT,' ./configure: line 20212: 'PKG_CHECK_MODULES(XEXT, xproto x11 xextproto xau'"? I got this line trying to ./autogen.sh a required package  called XEXT for Intel GM865 package. I know the apt repo has the package, but I am trying to learn stuff on linux without using apt to install everything at the moment.
[01:37] <emma> -rw-r--r-- 1 emma emma 28 2008-02-16 14:23 .dmrc
[01:37] <emma> that is the result of ls -l .dmrc
[01:37] <Cew27> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:38] <FourX4Luvn> emma: That should do it then.. ownership and permissions are right
[01:38] <sp0ro> Does that mean I need all the packages listed? If so, how is that possible considering I need XEXT to install XEXT?
[01:38] <emma> Okay I sure hope so!
[01:38] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Log completely out and back in again.. and if you have problems still then come back and let us know, ok?
[01:38] <Cew27> lyag: aaaaaaaah do you know why ubuntu never saves anything i copy after i close the source
[01:39] <norml_advocate> but seriously if i turn on remote access can someone fix me up with wireless.  I am big dumb.
[01:39] <LiraNuna> what's wrong with your wireless norml_advocate
[01:39] <emma> FourX4Luvn,  okay I will do that right now.
[01:39] <lmgeee> hello there. I'm having troubles getting hostap drivers compiled (I assume that's necessary) with PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT, in order to flash the very old firmware on my prism2.5 card.
[01:39] <LiraNuna> norml_advocate, you don't need remote access for help
[01:39] <Cew27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56437/
[01:40] <FourX4Luvn> wow LiraNuna.  Tone down the color :)  Hurts me eyes
[01:40] <komputes> I am trying to set up a firewall where one machine is the only on the network which can access the internet. if iptables is blocking all network traffic, how do I allow one host access all network traffic unrestricted?
[01:40] <Cew27> lyag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56437/
[01:40] <user_> odbod: thanks for your help...
[01:40] <LiraNuna> FourX4Luvn, what colorr?
[01:40] <LiraNuna> FourX4Luvn, I'm using irssi, natively writing, what color are you talking about
[01:40] <fevel> heyhey
[01:40] <norml_advocate> LiraNuna  I cant get the 43xx cutter tool to make my wireless work
[01:41] <linux_trojan> I was just wondering, is this the "official" room for ubuntu?
[01:41] <norml_advocate> and cant find windows drivers
[01:41] <FourX4Luvn> LiraNuna: Hrm.. it must be my client settings then.  I don't use IRC much, so I just use pidgin.  Never looked at it's color settings.. Anyway, on my screen you are a BRIGHT green.. Like glow in the dark neon green.
[01:41] <jrib> linux_trojan: the official support channel, yes
[01:41] <LiraNuna> norml_advocate, try using the restricted drivers manager
[01:41] <linux_trojan> cool, today is my first day to use ubuntu, just installed it
[01:41] <LiraNuna> FourX4Luvn, Pidgin it not for IRC, don'
[01:42] <norml_advocate> already did that, says its enabled but doesnt work
[01:42] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: Is it the card that isn't working, or perhaps your encryption?  Do you use WPA or WEP?  Could it be that that's causing the problem and not the card?
[01:42] <linux_trojan> anyone keep up with www.distrowatch.com?
[01:42] <Cew27> lyag: u still there
[01:42] <Skfarek> anyone use gnome and 2 monitors?
[01:42] <linux_trojan> why has ubuntu dropped to #2 spot?
[01:42] <lmgeee> anyone? "flashing firmware on a prism2.5 card"
[01:42] <Cew27> linux_trojan: i do
[01:42] <lmgeee> Skfarek, yes.
[01:42] <norml_advocate> i dont know what those things are.  I just connect to public servers at coffee shops
[01:43] <kolby> who is at #1
[01:43] <emma> Hello. I still got the same error after putting in my password.
[01:43] <Skfarek> lmgeee: any problems?
[01:43] <Cew27> linux_trojan: it aint
[01:43] <fevel> linux_trojan: I suspect comunity fraus =D
[01:43] <Cew27> kolby: pclinuxos
[01:43] <jrib> linux_trojan: this channel  is only for support.  We have #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussion.  Please go there for this conversation
[01:43] <norml_advocate> and i dont know anything about setting this thing up
[01:43] <Skfarek> lmgeee: i have a problem with a wallpaper
[01:43] <linux_trojan> yea PCLINUXOS
[01:43] <fevel> yeah
[01:43] <Skfarek> lmgeee: it looks awful
[01:43] <fevel> thats a good topic for offtopic
[01:43] <odbod>  PC Specs: 600 mhz AMD athlon/768 mb ram/nvidia tnt --- I have the nvidia legacy drivers working. I installed UT '99, but the performance is choppy compared to when it ran on windows (very well!!) any ideas?
[01:43] <lmgeee> Skfarek, prop nvidia drivers. no wallpaper. compiz?
[01:43] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: Ok.. well if you're connecting to public servers than encryption isn't the issue
[01:44] <Skfarek> lmgeee: nop. intel drivers + copiz
[01:44] <linux_trojan> the best thing ubuntu has going I think is its great forums and it does appear to be very stable
[01:44] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: Stupid question, but are you sure it's turned on?  Most laptops have a key combination to turn the wireless on or off.
[01:44] <norml_advocate> i have read alot of doc. on this, and it seems really common, and theres acajillion ways to make htis work.
[01:44] <tracer903> could someone look at my xorg.conf file and advise me.  my tv out stopped working. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56438/
[01:44] <Skfarek> lmgeee: well it looks like on second monitor last pixel on the whole screen
[01:44] <Cew27> linux_trojan: what isnt stable
[01:44] <norml_advocate> it is turned on
[01:44] <fevel> anyone use ipod touch on ubuntu?
[01:44] <lmgeee> Skfarek, might well be a compiz issue. I remember squashed wallpapers too -> turned em off
[01:44] <norml_advocate> but i cant turn it off when i press the button
[01:44] <FourX4Luvn> linux_trojan: More up to date than debian, but still with the wonderful apt package management.
[01:44] <lmgeee> Skfarek, hang on..
[01:45] <mrdigital> fevel: i used it to control ubuntu via vnc
[01:45] <Skfarek> lmgeee: do you use xrandr or what?
[01:45] <Cew27> anyone got the eeepc if so how is it
[01:45] <fevel> mrdigital: I think youve mistaken your answer
[01:45] <fevel> mrdigital: I was talking about Ipod touch
[01:45] <mrdigital> yeah
[01:45] <mrdigital> you can use it to remote desktop into ubuntu
[01:45] <mrdigital> or windows
[01:45] <mrdigital> via VNC
[01:46] <FourX4Luvn> Cew27: I don't, but there were two people in here last night talking about it.  Consensus seemed to be that it was pretty good for what it is.. and the wifi adapter is pretty flaky.
[01:46] <mrdigital> im just pointing out a cool feature
[01:46] <fevel> mrdigital: OH REALLY!
[01:46] <mrdigital> if u jailbreak it
[01:46] <fevel> mrdigital: thats cool
[01:46] <lmgeee> Skfarek, yes. can't find the flag for the Device section, but it prevented some buffers.
[01:46] <Cew27> FourX4Luvn: what you mean about the adapter and is it worth getting for my bd and sticking mint or another distro on it ?
[01:46] <mrdigital> fevel: have u heard of jailbreaking?
[01:46] <craigbasss> Where are samba shares mounted if you can see them in nautilus?  It just showed the files on a windows box, but I don't know where to find them int eh command line to play...
[01:46] <fevel> ive heard of ssh through bsd subsystem
[01:46] <fevel> yes
[01:46] <linux_trojan> I have a license for VMware Workstation 5, I cant get it to run on any 2008 linux distros, yet I can get VMplayer to work on all the distros
[01:46] <Skfarek> lmgeee: any solution?
[01:47] <lmgeee> Skfarek, two screens with 1280x1024 tripple buffered is quite some memory
[01:47] <craigbasss> I tried mounting them manually (mount -t smbfs (and also cifs) //ip.add.ress.sofbox/sharename /mnt
[01:47] <lmgeee> Skfarek, yeah, but I can't find the flag
[01:47] <fevel> my is a jailbroken touch 16 gb but cant seem to transfer podcasts, photos and those things
[01:47] <FourX4Luvn> Cew27: I mean it seemed like they were having trouble with the wifi just shutting off for no apparant reason at any time it wanted to.  Otherwise they liked it.
[01:47] <Skfarek> lmgeee: i can wait ;)
[01:47] <fevel> only music through ipod-touch-mount
[01:48] <norml_advocate> i wnat someone to fix my wireless through remote accesss!
[01:48] <fevel> mrdigital: had you any luck???
[01:48] <Cew27> FourX4Luvn: what atheros wireless is it and it sounds like a driver issue
[01:48] <FourX4Luvn> Cew27: So.. if you're not going to be doing much wireless with it then for the price, yeah, it might be pretty good.  If you are going wireless a lot I'd stay away though.
[01:48] <norml_advocate> whos the bigshot around here?
[01:48] <FourX4Luvn> Cew27: I have no idea.. Like I said, I don't have one, just know what I overheard
[01:48] <linux_trojan> anyone use "bitch x"?
[01:48] <emma> I'm back I made a pastebin to explain things.....  Can anyone help me with a strange error?
[01:48] <FourX4Luvn> emma Still no go, eh?
[01:48] <lmgeee> Skfarek, got a prob myself I have to sort first.. :\
[01:48] <Norther> What is this "roaming mode" in network manager? If I disable it, my wireless network no longer shows up in it
[01:48] <emma> I did the sudo chmod and logged back in but the same error was there along with a new error.  Here is the pastebin -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/56439/
[01:49] <Cew27> FourX4Luvn: kool i think i may get one althaugh i am concered about the small hdd
[01:49] <std> how do i setup slip
[01:49] <Skfarek> lmgeee: i'm stiil here ;)
[01:49] <linux_trojan> is ubuntu the only distro to use sudo  I never seen that before, I just went ahead and created a password for my root
[01:50] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Ok.. 'ls -ld /home/yourusername'
[01:50] <FourX4Luvn> emma: and paste the output, please
[01:50] <norml_advocate> any one want to remote fix me?
[01:50] <emma> This looks relevant but I'm unsure about the directions -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371052
[01:50] <norml_advocate> ill do it
[01:50] <norml_advocate> if you fix it
[01:50] <Cew27> anyone here know how i can get my resolution to 1280x800 i did it before but it sbuggered up upon restart
[01:50] <Drizzt321> how do I get rid of gpilotd without getting rid of ubuntu-desktop?
[01:50] <std> how do i setup slip:
[01:50] <norml_advocate> remote fix me please?
[01:50] <FourX4Luvn> slip?  What on earth for?  I haven't seen a slip connection in at least 10 years
[01:50] <maco> i need help
[01:51] <broderick> will ubuntu boot off of the GRUB loader
[01:51] <emma> drwxrwxrwx 41 emma emma 4096 2008-02-17 20:41 /home/emma
[01:51] <FourX4Luvn> broderick: Yes.
[01:51] <broderick> cool thx
[01:51] <emma> That is from ls -ld /home/emma
[01:51] <bluefox83> Drizzt321, ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package, you can get rid of it a thousand times over and not lose anything important
[01:51] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Ok.. that's your problem.  'sudo chmod o-w /home/emma'
[01:51] <Cew27> anyone here know how i can get my resolution to 1280x800 i did it before but it buggered up upon restar
[01:51] <emma> okay i'll do it
[01:51] <bluefox83> Cew27, nvidia card?
[01:51] <norml_advocate> is everyone ignoring my request for a remote fix me up?
[01:51] <maco> what sould i do if i want to do dual boot with windows xp and Ubuntu?? I only can boot with Ubuntu.. :-$
[01:52] <Strat> change xorg.conf?
[01:52] <Cew27> bluefox83: intel onboard 645
[01:52] <Drizzt321> bluefox83:  ok, thank you. if it doesn't work I'm blaming you :P
[01:52] <emma> should I log out and back on again?
[01:52] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, you need to do it yourself, it's dangerous for someone to log into your system and do stuff to your system
[01:52] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Your home directory was set to allow anyone to write to it.  Big security problem.  That command will remove the write ability from anyone that is not 'emma' or in the 'emma' group.
[01:52] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Yes, please
[01:52] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 i trust you
[01:52] <bluefox83> Drizzt321, no problem :P
[01:52] <norml_advocate> you do it
[01:52] <norml_advocate> :-)
[01:52] <linux_trojan> dual boot, I havent done that in a long time
[01:52] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, whats the problem?
[01:52] <emma> Okay thank you FourX4Luvn  you are really great
[01:52] <Strat> lol
[01:52] <norml_advocate> cant get my 43xx wireless to work
[01:52] <linux_trojan> Cew just download VMware Server from free
[01:52] <std> FourX4Luvin: I am a teenager trying to learn how to setup slip.
[01:53] <linux_trojan> *for free
[01:53] <Cew27> linux_trojan: why would i do that isnt that virtual desktop software
[01:53] <komputes> can anyone help me with iptables?
[01:53] <maco> Can anybody help me??
[01:53] <FourX4Luvn> std: Ok.. Fair enough. :)  Just was curious, it's such an old technology.  Gimmie a minute.. I think I still have some info around here about it.
[01:53] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, when you go to system->administration->network, is wireless connection listed?
[01:54] <zth> hmm this DVD wont play for me. it's matrix reloaded. any ideas? nothing happens when totem tries playing it and i cant open the vob files
[01:54] <norml_advocate> yes it is and the restricted drivers manager says its enabled
[01:54] <komputes> zth: try downloading VLC
[01:54] <linux_trojan> Cew27:  coz you dont have to worry about the partitions and the boot file, you run windows and linux at the same time
[01:54] <std> FourX4Luvin Thank you.:)
[01:54] <Norther> What is this.. "Illegal block number passwed to ext2fs_test_block_bitmap ****** for multiply claimed block map". I'm running fsck and I have hundreds of these errors
[01:54] <FourX4Luvn> std: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2820
[01:54] <Akara> my remote control and tv out don't work, can someone help me fix them?
[01:55] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, do you see a little icon on your taskbar that says "wired network connection" looks like two little computers together?
[01:55] <FourX4Luvn> std: That should give you a good start at least :)
[01:55] <komputes> zth: VLC does a good job at playing all media files and discs
[01:55] <norml_advocate> yes
[01:55] <FourX4Luvn> emma: All better?
[01:55] <fevel> komputes: do you recomment it over totem?
[01:55] <desertc> Anyone played around with GNOME Theming ?
[01:55] <komputes> fevel: highly
[01:55] <emma> FourX4Luvn,  you fixed it you GENIUS! ♥
[01:55] <bluefox83> click that little icon, anything come up in the menu?
[01:55] <maco> I have to modify the file /boot/grub/menu.lst ?? What should i add at the end?? Something like XP on (hd0,0)
[01:55] <maco> ??
[01:55] <FourX4Luvn> emma: :)  Good to hear.
[01:56] <komputes> someone can please give me some iptables help...
[01:56] <FourX4Luvn> !grub | maco
[01:56] <ubotu> maco: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:56] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 yes
[01:56] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, whats coming up?
[01:56] <emma> It's funny how that could have happened. I've never looked at that file. I think maybe what did it is that I did a sudo gedit when I should do a gksudo gedit...
[01:56] <FourX4Luvn> emma: What file were you trying to edit?
[01:57] <nbourdeau> Has anyone succeeded in configuring an ATI HD 2600 card in 7.10 ? I,ve tried almost all how to and check thousands of forums posts without success....
[01:57] <emma> I think it was my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:57] <desertc> Trying to find a GNOME theme that expands the edges of the windows.  I'm having trouble clicking to resize.
[01:57] <norml_advocate> it says     wired network with a radio button high lighted, uder that it say wireless networkds, but none there.  there shouldnt be any there though because there is now wireless here.
[01:57] <linux_trojan> I think for dual boot you install windows and make sure you create a swap partition, then install linux and the boot loader reads that you have and windows partition and it puts that in the boot loader, but I cant remember for suer
[01:57] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, congradulations, your wireless works
[01:57] <norml_advocate> it also has conncet to other and create wireless net. options
[01:58] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Your problem was that your home directory became world writeable.  What caused THAT I don't know, but that's why you were getting the errors.  Editing your xorg.conf file wouldn't of had anything to do with that.. Nor would sudo vs gksudo.
[01:58] <norml_advocate> but when i go to the coffee shop it doesnt show up
[01:58] <linux_trojan> gosh I cant type
[01:58] <emma> Hm. I am not sure then. I really don't know.
[01:58] <norml_advocate> i just want it to appear there so i can click and surf
[01:58] <norml_advocate> no servers coming up
[01:58] <FourX4Luvn> emma: Oh well.. It's fixed now.. If it happens again, THEN you know you have troubles.. For now though, just forget about it and enjoy your now working again computer :)
[01:59] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, i dunno, when i go to my local library i get like three different wireless signals, two from the library, one from the coffee shop around the block...
[01:59] <emma> Cool thanks so much again!
[01:59] <FourX4Luvn> emma: No problem.
[01:59] <norml_advocate> do you think that the router is turned off when they close the coffee shop?
[01:59] <norml_advocate> its in the basement
[01:59] <maco> oh, fuck!!
[01:59] <Flannel> !language | maco
[01:59] <ubotu> maco: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:59] <linux_trojan> easiest way to do a dual boot is with two distinct hard drives
[02:00] <bluefox83> FourX4Luvn, ati is pretty well known for not being very linux friendly, so you might be out of luck till someone can write the driver for your card
[02:00] <maco> ok...
[02:00] <FourX4Luvn> eh?
[02:00] <FourX4Luvn> bluefox83: Got the wrong guy there, bud :)
[02:00] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, yeah, lots of coffee shops do that, they think someone might hack their stuff in the middle of the night with no one there watching the network
[02:00] <bluefox83> FourX4Luvn, you didn't have probs with a ati card?
[02:00] <Jouva> Still the wrong guy ;)
[02:01] <FourX4Luvn> bluefox83: No sir.  I run nVidia
[02:01] <norml_advocate> but that would make them stupid cuz if i could hack i would do it while sitting right there and drinking there tasty coffee
[02:01] <norml_advocate> and using there interweb
[02:01] <Jouva> bluefox83: I think you're looking for nbourdeau
[02:01] <bluefox83> it was nbourdeau >.>
[02:01] <nbourdeau> bluefox83 : it's me!
[02:01] <linux_trojan> shouldnt that be "bourdeaux"?
[02:02] <bluefox83> nbourdeau, well then i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but ati is very well known for not being very forthcoming with their drivers for the linux crowd
[02:02] <komputes> see you all later, i'm getting no love here. if a netadmin has time to look at this it would be very nice! :D       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699871
[02:02] <nbourdeau> i know it is not linux friendly but was just gessing if someone succeded in configuring fglrx with this card
[02:02] <bluefox83> nbourdeau, so, you might be out of luck
[02:02] <Freebean> can some1 who knows something answer something for me or else direct me to where I mite find the answer?
[02:02] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 thanks for the help.  im gonna go try and find a wireless network. if it doesnt work ill be back. will you be here in an hour
[02:02] <norml_advocate> ?
[02:02] <FourX4Luvn> Freebean: Just ask your question :)
[02:02]  * bluefox83 makes a point to never buy ati, since they are notorious for not coughing up the drivers
[02:03]  * Norther makes that note too
[02:03] <linux_trojan> ati all in wonder is a nightmare in linux
[02:03] <Freebean> you know the standard Solitaire in ububtu?
[02:03] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, possibly, and you might want to download a little package called "wifi radar"
[02:03] <Freebean> comes up with last version u played
[02:03] <Hilikus> can anyone help me to install a hauppaufe wintv pvr 150 ir blaster? the remote is working but not the blaster, im using gutsy
[02:03] <norml_advocate> whats that?
[02:03] <linux_trojan> I think there is a program called casas or something but I never made it work
[02:03] <Frogzoo> bluefox83: since amd bought ati, there's been a commitment to decent linux drivers, & they're getting better
[02:04] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, helps you detect wifi networks ;)
[02:04] <bluefox83> Frogzoo, cool, doesn't AMD own ati?
[02:04] <FourX4Luvn> Freebean: Hrm.. Nope, afraid I don't
[02:04] <Frogzoo> bluefox83: they do now, yes
[02:04] <FourX4Luvn> Frogzoo: When did that happen?
[02:04] <bluefox83> and didn't HP or someone just buy amd?
[02:05] <Freebean> ok   thx  anyway
[02:05] <FourX4Luvn> No, no no.. don't say that, bluefox
[02:05] <Norther> What is this.. "Illegal block number passwed to ext2fs_test_block_bitmap ****** for multiply claimed block map". I'm running fsck and I have hundreds of these errors
[02:05] <phac3> hey my audio on my ubuntu just stop working now i have no sound what do i do to fix this?
[02:05] <Norther> It's been scanning from the past 6 hours and still not done
[02:06] <lizbeth> hola
[02:06] <bluefox83> it was IBM...they bought AMD
[02:06] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 just got it, do the connections automatically appear in the window?
[02:06] <desertc> phac3: what have you done to troubleshoot the issue so far?
[02:06] <sparr_> ive got a bunch of kubuntu 6.10 discs that i dont need.  is there anywhere i can send them that would want them?
[02:06] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, no, you have to refresh it once in a while to keep it looking
[02:06] <phac3> nothing yet
[02:06] <FourX4Luvn> dataloss: Ouch.. I don't know anything about your problem, but I did find this.  May help you.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578484
[02:06] <soulburner> hi
[02:06] <soulburner> i have returned
[02:07] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 but if i go to a place where i know there is a signal, and open the wifi radar they will appear there?
[02:07] <soulburner> can anyone point me in the direction how to share connection with my eth0 via my wireless usb adapter?
[02:07] <matholum>  hello, does anyone know anything about the wxWidgets for c#, wx.net?
[02:07] <zth> in vlc, trying to play a dvd, all i get is a pixly view, u knmow the one when comp cant play the movie. i do hear the sound but cant see any pcture
[02:07] <FourX4Luvn> soulburner: http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg18t03.htm
[02:08] <Dr_willis> soulburner,  at one time - the 'ip masquerading howto' covered that.. but thats a long time ago. there may be better guides out now on doing it.
[02:08] <fevel> anyone have any luck transfering photos, videos, etc to a jailbroken Ipod touch???
[02:08] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, yeah...that's the idea
[02:08] <soulburner> thanks four, and yes dr_willis.... i just tried that method
[02:08] <soulburner> it stopped my usb adapter from working apparntely
[02:08] <dataloss> Hmm, odd, FourX4Luvn. It says it's a rare bug in the filesystem. I'm lucky
[02:08] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 how do you get to know so much about linux?  i must learn.  i want to learn how to program and stuff
[02:08] <FourX4Luvn> dataloss: Lol.. What a way to be lucky, eh?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> soulburner,  just googled this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[02:09] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 any good books or college courses?
[02:09] <dataloss> FourX4Luvn: The problems started after I resized my ext3 partition
[02:09] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, honestly? break stuff a lot...then spend hours fixing it :P
[02:09] <norml_advocate> bluefox83 well im broken lets see if i fixed it
[02:09] <norml_advocate> thanks
[02:09] <bluefox83> norml_advocate, there are ubuntu tutorials all over for just about everything you can think of
[02:09] <norml_advocate> sign out
[02:09] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: I dunno about bluefox, but I went to the school of hard knocks.. Years of tinkering and breaking and fixing.  Best advice I can give?  Read a lot, tinker a little, read a lot.... ad nauseum.
[02:10] <linux_trojan> if something breaks just reinstall
[02:10] <dataloss> First it wouldn't even mount, so I replaced the superblock with a backup using testdisk and fsck, and managed to get it to mount and backed up my important stuff. It still won't boot into Ubuntu and this fsck is taking slightly longer than forever
[02:10] <dsnyders> Hi all! My k3b stopped working, and I'm getting a DCOP aborting message when I run from a terminal.
[02:10] <norml_advocate> fourx4luvn good advice but i want to learn fast.  im lookin for a school of soft knocks, or a nice big huge book
[02:11] <norml_advocate> that starts out with linux is for computers
[02:11] <norml_advocate> computers are your friend
[02:11] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: Ok. .then you'll have to be a bit more specific about what you want to learn first.
[02:11] <eltux> hey, I'm installing ubuntu onto my external drive yet i think i need to install a boot loader and I already have one on my hard drive, what should I do so I can boot into the external drive?
[02:11] <norml_advocate> start with basics move on till i control the entire linux world
[02:11] <norml_advocate> seriously
[02:12] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: For general Linux usage.. with an Ubuntu slant... http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0132435942
[02:12] <matt___> how can i edit the name of a drive? like a flash drive or ipod?
[02:12] <desertc> norml_advocate: tldp.org
[02:12] <norml_advocate> fourx4luvn how do you do that so fast?
[02:12] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: google :)
[02:12] <FourX4Luvn> norml_advocate: For that one I just searched for "ubuntu books"
[02:13] <desertc> FourX4Luvn: yeah, that book is a good introduction --  I own it
[02:13] <norml_advocate> awesome
[02:13] <ubuntuuser> help! just removed myself from sudoers list ^^
[02:13] <FourX4Luvn> desertc: I've heard that.. Haven't read it, but I've heard good reviews
[02:13] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntuuser: Have you enabled the root account?
[02:13] <desertc> it gets in depth with what the ubuntu project is trying to do
[02:14] <ubuntuuser> FourX4Luvn: don't know what that means. but no i don't have a root password
[02:14] <Starnestommy> ubuntuuser: which version of ubuntu?
[02:14] <ubuntuuser> 7.10
[02:14] <ubuntuuser> if I go in safemode will I get back the root access?
[02:15] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntuuser: 'shutdown now' will drop you to a root prompt.. then edit the /etc/sudoers file
[02:15] <Starnestommy> ubuntuuser: ok, go into recovery mode, then at the command line, type 'adduser yourname admin', but replace 'yourname' with your username
[02:15] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntuuser: Use something like pico
[02:15] <ubuntuuser> ok
[02:15] <ubuntuuser> thanks
[02:15] <ubuntuuser> will try that
[02:15] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntuuser: Or Starnestommy's method will work too
[02:16] <dsnyders> !k3b
[02:16] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:16] <ubuntuuser> "shutdown now" need to be root
[02:16] <ubuntuuser> I'll try the other option
[02:16] <Crumb> 1st time ubuntu user...long time linux user....sound card option is not set in /boot/config....... download sources, set config optiona nd recompile or is there a better (more ubuntu) way?
[02:16] <supersako> anyone here using virtualbox? how much space would be a decent amount to allocate for winxp? i think im going to do the dynamic allocation thing where it reserves but doesnt use all of it in the beginning
[02:16] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntuuser: Ahh.. Ok.. yeah, just hit 'esc' when it loads grub and select the recovery option
[02:17] <ubuntuuser> I will
[02:17] <FourX4Luvn> supersako: Depends on what you want to do with Windows
[02:17] <dataloss> supersako: I use 12GB in VMware just for testing stuff. I wouldn't use dynamic allocation again
[02:17] <sjs> can anybody help me with ubuntu installation? to why after i hit start installation it just crashes there?
[02:18] <Crumb> anyone familiar with getting snd_card_hda_intel module compiled and loaded?
[02:18] <chris062689> I have a question.
[02:18] <amenado> sjs from liveCD?
[02:18] <chris062689> I want to make a minimalistic Ubuntu install on my EeePC.
[02:18] <FourX4Luvn> supersako: I use 10 gig for mine.. but again, depends on how much you want to install to the windows machine.  As dataloss said though, I wouldn't use the dynamic size.  Just set the size statically (forget what it calls the other option)
[02:18] <sjs> desktop cd
[02:18] <chris062689> What Desktop Environment do you suggest?
[02:18] <koresko> sjs: I might be able to help with this one also.
[02:18] <sjs> i've winxp installed tho
[02:18] <lyag> sjs: What processor?  How much memory?
[02:18] <Starnestommy> chris062689: xfce
[02:18] <supersako> ah i see any reason why the dynamic allocation is not smart?
[02:19] <sjs> erm it's a presarrio v2000
[02:19] <linux_trojan> when I have trouble installing a distro like that, its coz the drivers cant see the hardware, I just get another distro
[02:19] <chris062689> Starnestommy: Even EeeXubuntu only leaves about 1GB on my SSD.
[02:19] <dataloss> supersako: Compromises performance
[02:19] <FourX4Luvn> chris062689: Minimal and desktop environment are pretty mutually exclusive terms.
[02:19] <danbhfive> chris062689: you can also try fluxbuntu at #fluxbuntu
[02:19] <chris062689> I tried fluxbox
[02:19] <amenado> !who
[02:19] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:19] <sjs> sec let me boot it up to see what it has hmm
[02:19] <chris062689> I couldn't get anything more than a desktop though.
[02:19] <Visinoni> I want to provide a login for a user but restrict them to only their home dir
[02:19] <lyag> sjs: How much memory?
[02:19] <linux_trojan> thats why I use Mandriva, Fedora, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu, I use them all
[02:19] <sjs> 512mb
[02:19] <Crumb> fluxbox is just a desktop
[02:19] <koresko> sjs: You probably are having a kernel issue with your hardware.  Laptops can be especially tricky - they like to do weird things with the hardware....
[02:19] <FourX4Luvn> chris062689: I'd go with ubuntu-server install, then install blackbox or fluxbox
[02:19] <Visinoni> I dont want them to be able to even cd to anywhere else
[02:19] <chris062689> I tried that.
[02:19] <Visinoni> how do I do that?
[02:20] <chris062689> I'm getting errors when installing from a ubuntu-server install.
[02:20] <fevel> anyone installed warcraft 3 frozen throne?
[02:20] <fevel> it keeps asking for the cd
[02:20] <amenado> Visinoni-> do you expect them do anything in the computer?
 The first thing to try is turn off a bunch of kernel features by editing the boot commandline.
[02:20] <fevel> the cd id inserted
[02:20] <Visinoni> no not really
[02:20] <Visinoni> I just want them to have a login
[02:20] <dataloss> Has it ever happened to anyone where you hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and it rebooted the system instead of restarting gdm?
[02:20] <supersako> i want to use virtualbox for adobe master suite and visual studio 2008 but now i think bout it.. i dont want those programs ;P
[02:20] <amenado> Visinoni-> does that make sense?
[02:20] <Visinoni> and be able to see their own home folder
[02:20] <Visinoni> yes
[02:20] <amenado> !who
[02:20] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
 ! how do i do that!!!?
[02:20] <Visinoni> so they can see things in their own folder
[02:20] <Crumb> anyone know how to get modules compiled ih ubuntu?
[02:20] <robdig> Crumb: what sound card do you have?
[02:20] <Visinoni> makes perfect sense
[02:21] <reind> I'm going to install ubuntu on a drive that has 3 existing linuxraid (raid5) partitions. Will the installer force a format of these drives (not desired) or will the data be maintained?
[02:21] <FourX4Luvn> dataloss: Certainly hasn't happened to me.  ctrl+alt+del, yeah
[02:21] <_Oz_> Hullo, Ubuntu friends!
[02:21] <benanzo> how do I tell rsync to use a specfic private key when syncing via ssh?
[02:21] <Crumb> robdig: thanks...its just onboard audio on an nforce card..i know the module i need...its just not enabled in the default config
[02:21] <benanzo> something like the 'ssh -i id_rsa
[02:21] <FourX4Luvn> reind: Partition the drive before doing the install, and during the install select 'manual partition' and just set the mount points.
[02:21] <dsnyders> Hi all! My k3b stopped working, and I'm getting a DCOP aborting message when I run from a terminal.  Anybody know what's wrong?
[02:21] <Visinoni> amenado - I want them to be able to read docs I put in their folder and that's about it
 Was a afraid you'd ask that.  I don't have the Ubuntu CD handy to remind myself, but for most distros you hit a Fn key to get a list of kernel options you can type at the boot prompt.
[02:22] <reind> FourX4Luvn: ok will do
[02:22] <Visinoni> they dont even really need to be able to edit anything in their folder... only read
[02:22] <Crumb> robdig: long time gentoo user...looking for a simpler distro for a desktop but im used to being able to just compile my own kernel with what i want
[02:22] <amenado> Visinoni-> it does not make sense for anyone even to log on, just create a web site for the user to view
[02:22] <Visinoni> makes sense to me
[02:22] <Visinoni> is it possible
 where do i do th at? like after i boot using the ubuntu cd?
[02:23] <robdig> Crumb: ok, the intel module i needed was already loaded. if you want to compile, you will need to download linux sources, plus build-essential
[02:23] <lyag> Crumb: You can still compile your own kernel.
[02:23] <FourX4Luvn> Visinoni: Anything's possible.  Just depends on how much you know or are willing to learn :)
[02:23] <jrib> grep Linux
[02:23] <Crumb> robdig: # CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL is not set
[02:23] <Visinoni> well it doesnt seem like it would be that difficult... is it just a matter of permissions?
[02:23] <Crumb> ok
[02:23] <FourX4Luvn> Visinoni: If you know much about creating dynamic websites though, then it wouldn't be too hard
 Probably when GRUB is up and showing a list of options (install Ubuntu, memory test, media test, etc)
[02:23] <Visinoni> I dont want to create a website... I Want them to be restricted to their home folder
[02:23] <Crumb> lyag: thanks
[02:23] <freakabcd> hi all
[02:23] <Visinoni> that's all
[02:24] <Crumb> robdig: thaks ill go get the sources and build the module
[02:24] <dataloss> FourX4Luvn: Seems I'm a magnet for rare problems. I was checking out how stable Ubuntu is. I was restarting gdm that way once a week, just to free up RAM. It ran well for 3 months, and the next ctrl+alt+backspace restarted the system for some odd reason. It said in the console that the system's going to reboot. It wasn't a crash or anything
[02:24] <FourX4Luvn> Visinoni: Oh
[02:24] <Visinoni> I'm not sure what that has to do with what I want...
[02:24] <FourX4Luvn> dataloss: Remind me not to have you play with my computers then.  ;-)
[02:24] <Hilikus> how do i uninstall a module??
[02:24] <dataloss> @_@
[02:24] <Visinoni> I want them to log in... see their home folder, and if they try to access anything else, they are denied
[02:24] <robdig> Crumb: i made one typo, the linux source is called linux-source
[02:25] <Visinoni> I'm not sure why this is such a nonsensical idea
[02:25] <FourX4Luvn> Visinoni: Someone suggested to you that you just create a website to display their documents to them.. I thought that's what you were asking about.
[02:25] <Visinoni> no
[02:25] <_Oz_> If I want to try KDE but easily be able to go back to gnome, what's the best way to do that?
 use 'modprobe -r modulename'
 hmm let me try (installing it on my laptop, using another pc atm) btw my presario v2000 is running on a pentium M 1.5ghz 512mb shared
[02:25] <Crumb> robdig: found it already thanks...was just trying to use default install...appreciate the help
[02:25] <Visinoni> i dont want to create a website
[02:25] <danbhfive> Visinoni: what's this for?
[02:25] <FourX4Luvn> Visinoni: Look at chroot then.  Chroot each user to their own 'jail'
[02:25] <amenado> Visinoni-> and what tools do you expect the user to view their home directory? files there
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Visinoni,  Login with ssh?
[02:25] <Hilikus> koresko thats to unload it from the kernel, i want to remove from my system to re-create it from scratch
[02:25] <Visinoni> it's for my coworkers to have a directory on my server
 I think the hardware spces should be fine
[02:25] <Dr_willis> every time ive heard people wanting to chroot users into their home dirs.. they come back later saying it was more of a pain then it was worth.
[02:26] <robdig> Crumb: np problem, good luck
[02:26] <Visinoni> k
[02:26] <Visinoni> forget it then
[02:26] <compy> anyone use audacity?
[02:26] <amenado> Visinoni-> it does not make sense,
[02:26] <Yoda> Hey all, I need a quick bit of help on IRC.  Could you explain to me how to switch to a new server and channel please?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> if the permissions are set on the other files/dirs - the users cant hurt the other dirs/files
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Yoda,  /server whatever
[02:26] <FourX4Luvn> Dr_willis: True.. FreeBSD's jail option would be better, but alas....
[02:26] <lyag> Crumb: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:26] <Yoda> alright, thanks
[02:26] <Dr_willis> Yoda,  for the rest.. read the irc client docs for your cient
 k i'm at GRUB and pressing the Fn key isn't doing anything!
[02:26] <dsnyders> compy, I've used it.  I'm no expert, but ask your question.
[02:27] <Dr_willis> FourX4Luvn,  degrees of paranoia i guess. :)
[02:27] <matholum> any mono users out there? what do i do with a .so file?
[02:27] <_Oz_> Is that dude who was having the GRUB problem still around?
[02:27] <lyag> !build-essential
[02:27] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:27] <yo> hola
[02:27] <_Oz_> !aptitude
[02:27] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:27] <gabe> hello
 wait i pressed F1 and it says this is a live cd for ubuntu. did i get the wrong image file?
[02:27] <koresko> Hilikus: Sorry, wrong context I guess.  Do you mean you actually want to recompile your kernel module?
[02:27] <shiwaraya> hello, im trying to back up some pictures that are on my desktop running ubuntu live but it says i have no rights to copy them. what i can do?
[02:27] <_Oz_> g a b e
[02:27] <FourX4Luvn> Dr_willis: True.
[02:27] <_Oz_> hello
[02:27] <Hilikus> koresko exactly
[02:27] <compy> dsnyders, so im trying to record streamed sound but it wont... ie i dont think my input device is right
[02:27] <_Oz_> If I want to try KDE but easily be able to go back to gnome, what's the best way to do that?
[02:28] <compy> and i have no clue what device it should be
[02:28] <wretched_> #wbm
[02:28] <amenado> shiwaraya-> the partition is mounted ?
[02:28] <FourX4Luvn> _Oz_: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[02:28] <andrew__> Anyone care to lend me a hand with my sound problem? I think what I need to do it repair/revert my drivers/conifg but I don't know how to go about that.
[02:28] <gabe> i'm switching over from windows to ubuntu on my desktop and i'm haveing a problem with the wireless networking
[02:28] <yo> alguien q sabe de un equivalente a flsh en feisty
[02:28] <Dr_willis> I mixx and match kde and gnome - so i always have kubuntu-dekstop and ubuntu-desktop both installed.
 You'll need the kernel sources and tools to do that.  Are you sure you need to?  What exactly are you trying to accomplish (install a patch?)
[02:28] <Dr_willis> now removing the kde stuff.. can be a issue later _Oz_
[02:28] <yo> flash
 and it's showing a list of options F1-F10 like prereq for running ubuntu, special boot parameters etc.
[02:28] <_Oz_> fourx4luvn: shouldn't I use aptitude to install that?  Anyway, how can I easily go back to my CURRENT gnome desktop
[02:28] <_Oz_> ?
[02:28] <FourX4Luvn> _Oz_: Then, at gdm login screen select options, sessions (I think it is) and select KDE
[02:28] <shiwaraya> amenado, yes, i can copy some files, but some others semms to have different rights, especially pictures
[02:29] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  use aptitude to install  kiubuntu-dekstop, that may make it easier to remove kde later.
 Special boot parameters sounds like what you want.  You should be able to control a number of things about how the kernel behaves.
[02:29] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  the gdm or kdm login tool has a menu for what desktop to use
[02:29] <dataloss> Now fsck is showing hundreds of numbers. I don't what all this is
[02:29] <_Oz_> aptitude has better control over all the unused dependencies, right?
[02:29] <dataloss> I wonder how long this is gonna take. It's been 7 hours already
[02:29] <amenado> shiwaraya-> the partition is mounted  both source and destination?  and you were doing this as sudo when in liveCd ?
[02:29] <FourX4Luvn> _Oz_: Dr_willis Is probably right.  apt-get will work, but aptitude is probably better if you thik you're going to remove it later
[02:29] <_Oz_> dr_willis: I am afraid I won't be able to get back to my gnome install.  Is this an irrational fear?
[02:29] <_Oz_> fourx4luvn: very good
[02:29] <dsnyders> compy, I don't believe audacity is the right tool for the job.  It's more for editing sound files, ie cutting and pasting sound bites.
[02:29] <amenado> dataloss-> a sign of dying hard disk
[02:30] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  get back? whats to get back to? You tgell gdm to go to KDE or GNOME.. there ya go.
[02:30] <Hilikus> koresko im trying to recompile the lirc_pvr150 module, the gutsy version is supposed to do what i need but i manually compiled it when i was using feisty, i upgraded today and the module segfaults when i load it so im suspecting the dist upgrade didnt upgrade it cause i manually compile it in feisty
[02:30] <compy> dsnyders, do you know of a nix program?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> select gnome session ya get gnome.. select kde session ya get kde.
 Typically when there's a hang on boot it's because of ACPI or APM, but if you send the list of params I will try to guess which ones are worth trying first.
[02:30] <compy> i have a mac and they have a few but are 60 bucks
[02:30] <dataloss> amenado: I tried smartctl and it showed everything is okay
[02:30] <shiwaraya> amenado-> how can i run as sudo the graphic folder browser?
[02:30] <_Oz_> !gdm
 go on!
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <Hilikus> koresko so i want to remove it completely and let SOMETHING install the standard module from gutsy
[02:30] <dsnyders> compy, what is your source?  What kind of stream is it?
[02:30] <amenado> dataloss-> then if you trust smartctl, go forward
[02:31] <_Oz_> thanks, dr_willis.
[02:31] <FourX4Luvn> Dr_willis: Not sure, but I think he's asking if he can remove kde completely if he decides he doesn't like it.  Not necessarily how to log back into gnome
[02:31] <compy> wav
[02:31] <amenado> shiwaraya-> gksudo
[02:31] <compy> or uhh actually i dotn know
[02:31] <desertc> I set up a new GNOME theme and now I have much wider window boarders.  Nice tweak for people with very high resolution monitors.
[02:31] <dataloss> amenado: Well everything was okay. It got messed up after I resized my partition.
[02:31] <MTecknology> oops, I uninstalled something... what package do I need to have window borders?
[02:31] <compy> skype conversations
[02:31] <compy> radio
[02:31] <_Oz_> does compiz work well with kde?
[02:31] <amenado> shiwaraya-> btw try to learn the command line okay?
 Hm, you think your installed copy of the module might be corrupted then?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  it can work with kde. :)
[02:31] <dataloss> amenado: And the drive is hardly 4 months old
[02:31] <Flannel> shiwaraya: gksu nautilus, don't use sudo (use gksu).  And remember, close it as soon as you can.
[02:31] <komik> Hello.
[02:31] <Hilikus> koresko yes
[02:31] <FourX4Luvn> I think KDE4 uses compiz by default now, no?
[02:31] <komik> Is there anyone here that can help me with a grub boot error?
[02:31] <Hilikus> koresko it was fine for the older kernel
[02:32] <Hilikus> but i upgraded today
[02:32] <shiwaraya> amenado-> thanks, but what is the aplication for browsing folders: gksudo _____?
[02:32] <Hilikus> and it stopped workinf
[02:32] <Dr_willis> kde4 does NOT use compiz. it has similer features however
[02:32] <FourX4Luvn> oh.. ok
[02:32] <shiwaraya> tx Flannel i didnt read u
[02:32] <amenado> dataloss-> oh well, as i have said if you trust it, go forward, carry on
[02:32] <dataloss> ...
 Oh wait, you mean you compiled it for the Feisty kernel and are trying to use the same binary for the Gutsy kernel?  That certainly would fail.
[02:32] <shiwaraya> im chatting on a spare pentium I and lines come very slow :)
[02:32] <amenado> shiwaraya-> per Flannel its gksu nautilus  my type gksudo
[02:32] <TpuProfiler> #techpowerup
[02:33] <TpuProfiler> opps
[02:33] <Hilikus> koresko im not sure
[02:33] <amenado> shiwaraya-> per Flannel its gksu nautilus  my typo* gksudo
[02:33] <dsnyders> compy, I'm not sure.  I know mplayer can play streams, and can dump to a file, but I don't know if it can do both at the same time.
[02:33] <jerojasr1> hi. I'd like to check the setup of my sound card, but I can'r find alsaconf anywhere. I already installed the alsa-utils package. Any hints?
[02:33] <compy> aww ok
[02:33] <FourX4Luvn> dsnyders: It cannot.  One or the other.
[02:33] <compy> ill check some out at google
[02:34] <Hilikus> koresko i just want to make sure that the module is the new default module and no the patched one i created for feisty
[02:34] <andrew__> Can someone tell me if there is a way to repair/revert my sound drivers and config rather than reinstall the entire OS?
 so what do i do about ACPI or APM? what kinda param do i need?
[02:34] <shiwaraya> amenado--> thanks very much, i got it
[02:35] <amenado> shiwaraya-> you're welcome, again try to learn command lines and not rely too much on gui
 Hm, the modules for a given kernel version are normally installed in /lib/modules/kernelversion so there isn't much chance the wrong one would get loaded unless you did something weird.
[02:35] <krammer> hi I am stuck in the shutdown process it is showing will restart but nothing is happening
[02:35] <Hilikus> koresko i see
[02:35] <dsnyders> Hi all! My k3b stopped working, and I'm getting a DCOP aborting message when I run from a terminal.  Anybody else having this problem?
[02:35] <_Oz_> dr_willis: re KDE and compiz, is it...  not ideal?  Is compiz best utilized in the gnome desktop?
 From (vague, unreliable) memory, ACPI=off, APM=off.
[02:35] <tushyd> hey, my little battery button went away on my notification area... how do I get it back??
[02:36] <amenado> krammer-> press the on/off switch for a few secs
[02:36] <shiwaraya> I backed up on different partition all that i needed from my home folder, do i need to back up something else
[02:36] <FourX4Luvn> tushyd: Did it go away because your battery is fully charged?  Or you mean it's completely absent?
[02:36] <krammer> ive tried that and rebooted then i tried to c if it would do it again and it did
[02:36] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  i dont find compiz that useable at times...
[02:36] <amenado> shiwaraya-> only the ones you consider important
 I've seen some modules segfault if they're given the wrong params.
[02:36] <tushyd> FourX4Luvn... I'm a moron.
[02:36] <tushyd> thanks anyways!
[02:37] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  and kde4 is working on their own alternative. so use it if you want. just dont get too addicted to it. :)
[02:37] <FourX4Luvn> tushyd: No worries.
[02:37] <koresko> Could that be happening here?  You could test by loading the module from the commandline.
[02:37] <shiwaraya> amenado--> i will follow your tip, i got into ubuntu pretty fast and even though i can do many advanced things i did not know live version needed to run sudo, i forgot also the browser was nautilus
[02:38] <Hilikus> koresko i dont give it any arguments, just modprobe lirc_pvr150
[02:38] <_Oz_> dr_willis: many of the plugins I find really useful.  I love the desktop cube "flicker" using the scroll wheel at the edges of the screen.  And I love being able to scroll through applications with that enlarged thingie.
[02:38] <shiwaraya> amenado--> tx again, im ready to reinstall then
 Is there anything interesting in your dmesg or /var/log/modules (you can 'tail' them to see)
[02:38] <_Oz_> kde4 is working on a compiz clone?
[02:38] <_Oz_> to be used solely in kde4?
[02:38] <_Oz_> Sometimes I wonder if there are too many variants of ubuntu.
[02:39] <FourX4Luvn> hah!
[02:39] <credible> _Oz_: kde4's window manager has an opengl composite manager similar to compiz, yes
[02:39] <FourX4Luvn> too many variants of Linux, period.. but then that's the freedom of choice, eh?
[02:39] <min1> mino: bla
[02:39] <_Oz_> edubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu-orangehat, etc
[02:39] <_Oz_> fourX4Luvn: hey, it's all (well, mostly) free, that's all I care about.
[02:40] <FourX4Luvn> ubuntu-orangehat?  WTH?  Ubuntu with RPM instead of .deb?
[02:40] <danbhfive> geobuntu?
[02:40] <amenado> but they all have /root /etc/passwd /etc/group
[02:40] <_Oz_> If I could figure out a way to move on from photoshop and illustrator, I'd be open-source in all things.
[02:40] <amenado> _Oz_-> look into blender and inkscape
[02:40] <soulburner> oh wow
[02:40] <soulburner> firestarter is awesome
[02:40] <lyag> _Oz_: gimp
[02:40] <FourX4Luvn> blender for photos?  Umm.. no
[02:40] <amenado> and gimp
 so like i press F6 (other options) then it's "Boot Options t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quietsplash --"
[02:41] <xoai> !gimpshop
[02:41] <ubotu> gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[02:41] <FourX4Luvn> and the gimp is great for beginning stuff.. but it doesn't begin to touch Photoshop when it comes to advanced editing, sorry.
[02:41] <krammer> now my keyboard doesnt even work in a chat area any thoughts ???
 then ACPI=off?
 It might be worth a shot
[02:41] <Dr_willis> _Oz_,  i find the cube useless.. The wife does like the zoom in feature. and the invert feature.  Other then those 2.. i dont use the rest