[01:51] <k31th> Uhh guys you eve needed to set a squirrelmail users email  address different from the defult e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?? (i have this working fine for incoming mail just outgoing). I know there is an option to do this within squirrelmail however what im after i guess is a way of mapping usernames to a email address ?
[01:51] <hondje> opexoc_: http://www.linuxprinting.org/ has a reliable list
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: Is that third fat on a different drive?  Are you running both sata and ide drives
[01:51] <hondje> opexoc_: Yes, I have 3 I set up in linux
[01:51] <drunken-wallaby> msg NickServ IDENTIFY stg77
[01:51] <hondje> all HP
[01:51] <earthian> ok.. redebootstraping :p
[01:52] <earthian> omg
[01:52] <earthian> errors :o
[01:52] <hondje> opexoc_: The only one that caused me much work is the one I'm using at this box, a PSC2110w
[01:53] <CyberSnooP> Hi! Is upgrading to edgy using update-manager supposed to work now?
[01:53] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: no it is all on the same drive
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> People, sorry if I am lagging a bit.  Still working on my first cup of coffee
[01:53] <hondje> Jack_Sparrow: You drink slowly, sir :(
[01:53] <FirstStrike> haha..i hope wallaby changes his password
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> hondje: No, Dr limited me to one cup.. so I got one BIG cup
[01:53] <hondje> FirstStrike: Don't worry, I'm already on it for him :)
[01:53] <FirstStrike> lol
[01:53] <opexoc_> hondje: and do you relay on this avaliable package in dapper? don't you install some from sourceforge?
[01:53] <hondje> Jack_Sparrow: I owuldn't trust a doctor that said to cut back :o0
[01:54] <kutan> Wow just for the hell of it I tried to look over the XMLs for the syntax highlighting on gedit... They're insanely confusing. o_o
[01:54] <hondje> opexoc_: Yes, I haven't had a problem with it yet
[01:54] <hondje> kutan: See why I wasn't even sure that's what it was? :-D
[01:54] <kutan> lol
[01:54] <mapascual> iudgf
[01:54] <mapascual> kujdgt
[01:54] <mapascual> dg
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[01:54] <mapascual> dj,jl.g
[01:54] <mapascual> k.tuo
[01:54] <mapascual> .
[01:54] <FirstStrike> ...
[01:54] <iturk> hi there i am trying to install an application named umbrello. in ./configure i get -> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. I know how to pass this option to the configure command. What i dont know is where are the KDE headers installed. Can someone help ??
[01:54] <kutan> Mmmm spam.
[01:54] <mapascual> j
[01:54] <mapascual> ktl
[01:54] <opexoc_> hondje: Do you install some with HP Photosmart C4100 series ?
[01:54] <mapascual> fk
[01:54] <mapascual> .
[01:54] <mapascual> gjl
[01:54] <kutan> Done yet mapascual?
[01:54] <mapascual> what?
[01:55] <radone> bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[01:55] <radone> ls -Al /dev/ | grep dsp       crw-rw---- 1 root audio    14,   3 2006-09-05 15:40 dsp
[01:55] <radone> What should be wrong?
[01:55] <earthian> anybody able to tell me how to fix that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22612 ?????
[01:55] <earthian> :'(
[01:55] <earthian> and wtf? :S
[01:55] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: i think i should go to windows for a check on that partition
[01:55] <radone> groups
[01:55] <radone> burgetrm adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[01:55] <opexoc_> hondje: Have you installed some with HP Photosmart C4100 series ?
[01:56] <hondje> opexoc_: No, but look here: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_C4100
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: It is a quick and easy solution .. You did create it from there right?
[01:56] <hondje> You want to apt-get install hpijs instead of hplip...and it's said to work' perfectly'
[01:57] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: no it is a partition which is created by my manufacturer
[01:57] <earthian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22612 <-- what causes these errors and how could i fix them? maybe i could increase the number of retries or chack filesystem??
[01:57] <hondje> so, that's probably problem number one, wrong driver :) that linuxprinting.org has a really good database for printers, including user notes and the like.
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: ah
[01:58] <earthian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22612 <-- what causes these errors and how could i fix them? maybe i could increase the number of retries or chack filesystem??
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: HAve you tried to install just libc6?
[01:58] <earthian> hey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22612 <-- what causes these errors and how could i fix them? maybe i could increase the number of retries or chack filesystem??
[01:58] <dw_> is it possible to set up a custom gnome desktop (themes, screensaver, wallpaper, shortcuts, preferred applications) and even some firefox-extensions for !multiple users at once? is this possible?
[01:58] <earthian> uops
[01:58] <earthian> sorry
[01:58] <opexoc_> hondje: ok but should I uninstall hplip before?
[01:58] <hondje> dw_: Yessir
[01:58] <earthian> Jack_Sparrow: no
[01:59] <hondje> opexoc_: I don't know, but I would just out of principle
[01:59] <earthian> i have not
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: Some of those backup type partitions are not true fat....  and that isnt fat16 by chance?
[01:59] <earthian> will try
[01:59] <morphix> i installed a base install of ubuntu and then install xfce, but usb thumb drives dont auto mount, i was certain there was a package i had to get to make it automount removable media, anyone know?
[01:59] <Warbo> Erm, has anyone been having trouble with Synaptic or GNOME Terminal? I haven't used Synaptic in a while, but I wanted to take a screenshot of it, but when I tried to load it it complained about "libvte". I saw I had a newer version than dapper comes with, so I downgraded it, but then I had to downgrade python-vte and gnome-terminal. I have disabled all of my repos except for the official Ubuntu ones, but the newer gnome-termin
[01:59] <dw_> hondje: good. i didn't find anything in the wiki or in the forums. do i need a special programm for this task?
[01:59] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: it isn't a backup partition, it is my main windows partition
[01:59] <hondje> dw_: Can I /msg you, it's getting hard to read in here
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: It is just a thought
[01:59] <dw_> hondje sure mate
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: XP?
[02:00] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: I dont know of any mfg that dosent set those as ntfs.. who made the box?
[02:00] <opexoc_> hondje: Sorry but I am a poory english man :) and I don't really understand everything what was you said to me. What does it mean "just out of"?
[02:00] <robokop> asus
[02:01] <alexi5> hello
[02:01] <alexi5> ubuntites
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: I didn realize they made packaged computers, I thought they just made components
[02:01] <Warbo> ubunteros I think
[02:02] <Warbo> I heard that somewhere
[02:02] <TLE> It's the best word ever
[02:02] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: laptop a6t
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:03] <Warbo> opexoc_: He doesn't seem to be replying, so I will answer for him. "just out of principle" means that he would always do it that way, whether he needed to or not
[02:03] <Protocol1> is there options to write over free space on a windows partition when doing an ubuntu installation?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: It still seems odd they would use fat32 for your XP install
[02:03] <Warbo> Protocol1: It doesn't write over it, it shrinks Windows, then uses the resulting free space
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Protocol1: Yes the installer is set to use all unallocated space on a drive
[02:04] <Protocol1> ok cool
[02:04] <Warbo> ("free space" in a partition is not actually free space)
[02:04] <Protocol1> thanks for the information
[02:04] <Protocol1> do I need to use the install cd or live cd
[02:04] <Protocol1> ??
[02:04] <Warbo> Protocol1: They are the same CD
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Protocol1: Live cd will be fine
[02:04] <Protocol1> ok cool
[02:05] <Warbo> OK, for those who couldn't be bothered to read all of my long message above: Is there a problem with libvte in Dapper's repositories? Synaptic crashed with a newer version so I had to downgrade, but it seems that the newer version was an official update
[02:05] <opexoc_> Warbo: ok... thanks
[02:06] <robokop> !pastebin
[02:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:07] <asoka123> how to appletviewer at command prompt, there is a appletviewer.1 in my usr/java/1.4.2/ but I  could not manage to run it :/
[02:07] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: it is fat32, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22613
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Warbo
[02:08] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: Afternoon Jack_Sparrow
[02:08] <asoka123> robokop: can u help me
[02:08] <Warbo> oops, I just remembered I'm editing a Wiki article! brb
[02:09] <robokop> asoka123: what is
[02:09] <asoka123> how to appletviewer at command prompt, there is a appletviewer.1 in my usr/java/1.4.2/ but I  could not manage to run it :/
[02:09] <robokop> \whois asoka123
[02:09] <kutan> Hmmmm
[02:09] <Typhon> asoka: check path variable
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: it dosent see #2 or #5
[02:10] <kutan> >_<
[02:10] <ucordes> anybody has trouble with xgl since last update?
[02:10] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: #2
[02:10] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: fix it at compiz.net, and xgl #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[02:11] <moldy> hi
[02:11] <Dragonfire> Good Morning man lots of users in here
[02:11] <moldy> my dnsmasq seems to randomly die quietly -- any idea what could be causing this?
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: What is in #1, a 2 gig partition there.. It came that way?
[02:11] <asoka123> Typhon: I have appletviewer in j2sdk1.4 folder, I don't know how to run it
[02:11] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: #1 is backup, it came that way
[02:12] <Typhon> asoka: what is the exact path to appletviewer? you have to add it to your path variable
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: K
[02:12] <matgates> When the installer offers to re-size my exiting partition, does this delete what is on that partition (windows)?
[02:12] <matgates> windows is on a NTFS partition as far as I know.  Is the resize safe?
[02:12] <robokop> matgates, what kinda partition
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: You have looked at it with gparted?
[02:13] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: i think i should install gparted then :P
[02:13] <matgates> I have a copy of the gparted liveCD.  Would it be better to use that that the ubuntu installer resize?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> matgates: Any time you work at the partition level there are dangers and you should have a backup, but yes I consider it safe
[02:13] <asoka123> Typhon: usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_12/man/man1
[02:13] <gvafarc> hellow
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: You should have it already
[02:13] <matgates> Jack_Sparrow: Sure.  It's a fresh machine.  I have a rescue CD.
[02:13] <Shoo-Shu> has any one used wine before?
[02:14] <matgates> Jack_Sparrow: I was just wondering if ubuntu resized NTFS.  In the past I know some installers freaked with NTFS partitions.
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: applications/system tools
[02:14] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: no only parted, not gparted
[02:14] <hondje> Shoo-Shu: Sure, what's up?
[02:14] <Shoo-Shu> how do i install it
[02:14] <Shoo-Shu> im a girl who is missing her WoW.
[02:14] <BeepAU> to play many windows games, i need cedega right? cedega costs money? is their a free version or something which will achieve the same result?
[02:14] <hondje> matgates: It has been hit 'n miss with me
[02:14] <Shoo-Shu> and its so unhealthy
[02:14] <hondje> Shoo-Shu: You'd want Cedega then
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> matgates: Yes it does resize ntfs...
[02:15] <Shoo-Shu> ok why
[02:15] <Typhon> asoka123: So typing "/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_12/man/man1/appletviewer something.html" works?
[02:15] <earthian> :)
[02:15] <hondje> BeepAU: Yes, yes, CVS mostly works the same, but it's more work.
[02:15] <Shoo-Shu> will sims work on cedega?
[02:15] <fyrestrtr> Shoo-Shu: instructions are at http://appdb.winehq.org -- search for WoW, then click on Dapper
[02:15] <matgates> Jack_Sparrow: OK, thanks.
[02:15] <earthian> my poblems seems that are because of errors in filesystem :/
[02:15] <matgates> I'll let you know if there is a problem, else assume it all goes smoothly.
[02:15] <earthian> fixing now with fsck
[02:15] <hondje> Shoo-Shu: I don't know, yu'd have to look at Transgaming's website...but IIRC there's an actual Sims port to linux for purchase :-/
[02:15] <BeepAU> hondje -- it works mostly the same?
[02:15] <hondje> BeepAU: I've had good luck with it
[02:15] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: no it wasn't installed, bu now it is
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian: sorry you have errors but glad you found the prob
[02:16] <Shoo-Shu> o ok
[02:16] <Shoo-Shu> money *sigh*
[02:16] <Shoo-Shu> lol
[02:16] <BeepAU> hondje -- do you know a good guide to get me started?
[02:16] <asoka123> Typhon: it says command not found
[02:16] <hondje> I can play CS:S and HL2 fine, though a bit slower ... and Diablo 2 works perfectly, but not even Civilization 2 works ... so, it's iffy :)
[02:16] <hondje> BeepAU: No, when I used cedega I paid them money and used dpkg, sorry
[02:16] <Typhon> asoka123: try "/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_12/bin/appletviewer something.html" :)
[02:17] <earthian> i just hope that my important data in /home/ will survive this :S
[02:17] <BeepAU> hondje -- that's alright. thanks for your help.
[02:17] <hondje> BeepAU: No problem. It's not too pricey...$15 for 3 months when I last used it, and they were pretty good at handling bug reports
[02:17] <moldy> Sep  5 14:15:12 willi dnsmasq[10889] : DHCPNAK(eth0) <IP_ADDRESS> 00:0f:b0:bd:bd:
[02:17] <moldy> 51 wrong network
[02:18] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: nothing seems wrong with is
[02:18] <robokop> *it
[02:18] <moldy> and after that, dnsmasq just dies! why is that?
[02:18] <J_P> hi all
[02:18] <hondje> I'm sure if you google around you can find a script to automagically set it up from CVS
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: please pastebin your fstab
[02:18] <BeepAU> hondje -- i'm a linux n00b. i'll try, though.
[02:18] <asoka123> Typhon: it says no such file or directory even I have appletviewer.1 there
[02:18] <J_P> people, next stable version of ubuntu is 6.10 or 6.12 ?
[02:19] <azathoth> 6.10
[02:19] <hondje> :-) I'd check the ubuntu forums or wait for someone here to give you a link hehe
[02:19] <J_P> azathoth: but last version was 6.06 right. So if is each six months, so next will be 6.12 right ?
[02:19] <fyrestrtr> J_P: next one is 6.10
[02:19] <Typhon> asoka123: no such file or directory probably means you don't have a <something.html> :)
[02:20] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22614
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> !schedule > J_P
[02:20] <azathoth> J_P: no, it's 6.10, dapper just got two months extra time...
[02:20] <azathoth> it was supposed to be 6.04 but got delayed... edgy is still on october schedule tho
[02:21] <Protocol1> Im getting a cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused when I try to do an install and ideas?
[02:22] <Protocol1> I selected the install or start option
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: so diskmounter set it up fine.
[02:22] <kairu0> azathoth, as in next month?
[02:22] <azathoth> as in next month, yes
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: And you cant write to it?
[02:22] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[02:22] <azathoth> around the same time the new gnome is released
[02:23] <EmxBA> hi
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: What error again, or just a permissions problem?
[02:23] <EmxBA> yesterday i upgraded everything (dist-upgrade) and compiz doesn't work, there are no window borders
[02:23] <robokop> seems like just a permission problem
[02:23] <EmxBA> what could be the problem?
[02:23] <azathoth> EmxBA: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[02:24] <EmxBA> azathoth: ok
[02:24] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: but chmod doesn't work for it
[02:24] <ucordes> xgl updates: you can only start xgl with "compiz-start" .  any old frontends won't work after latest updates
[02:24] <fyrestrtr> EmxBA: xgl questions belong in #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl
[02:24] <Protocol1> Im getting a cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused when I try to do an install and ideas?
[02:25] <ucordes> EmxBA read what i said
[02:25] <EmxBA> ucordes :just a sec
[02:25] <_FR0D0> hi, I have a problem with remote printing with cups, using a dapper server and any client but dapper everithing works, but with a dapper client all I get when printing is '$$' ... any idea?
[02:25] <ucordes> you need to start it with start-compiz
[02:25] <EmxBA> script or?
[02:25] <ucordes> you can type it into your session settings
[02:25] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: take it to #ubuntu-xgl please
[02:25] <NewpZ> hi i installed the nvidia drivers and anything vido relatd is real slow... glxgars is sow also.. is there something i can do?
[02:26] <ucordes> or manually start it by typing start-compiz into a terminal
[02:26] <ucordes> fyrestrtr: just wanted to help those who didn't look into #ubuntu-xgl
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: are you sure you are using the drivers? glxinfo | grep direct -- you should see 'Yes'
[02:27] <Typhon> Protocol1: You don't happen to have a Core 2 Duo do you?
[02:27] <EmxBA> ucordes: start-compiz doesn't exist :) and on #ubuntu-xgl everybody is quiet...
[02:27] <robokop> Jack_Sparrow: don't know what happend, but it works now :P
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: Sorry to say I am at a loss on this, fstab is ok, diskmounter didnt have a problem with it... I can only suspect the mfg did something with the partition table.  I also dont know why they would have used fat32 for your xp install.  I would live to see what (Windows) fdisk tells us about that partition
[02:27] <NewpZ> eww it says no
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: Ok...
[02:27] <Protocol1> Typhon, maybe I loaded the wrong cd for the wrong proc
[02:27] <kutan> For some reason when I use make for Vim it's non-stop text.
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> robokop: Had me going there
[02:27] <NewpZ> but yet i have the svideo output enabled and working
[02:27] <jacopoexchange> does anyone know how permissions work for ext3 partitions?
[02:27] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: then you are not using the nvidia drivers :) read the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Video
[02:28] <Protocol1> I have differnent kinds....like for mac an d 64 bit
[02:28] <Protocol1> let me check
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: what do you mean 'how'?
[02:28] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: are you running xgl?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning fyrestrtr, didnt see you drop in..
[02:29] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr: i need to be able to access as non-root an ext3 partition
[02:29] <ucordes> EmxBA: i'm sorry i switched it: compiz-start. i can tell you why they quiet. because it is in the title :P
[02:29] <moldy> how do i install a specific version of a package?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> hey Jack -- ran into some strange problems testing edgy :)
[02:29] <EmxBA> ucordes: OK
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> fyrestrtr: When it gets slow we can chat
[02:29] <ucordes> does it work?
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: you have a few options -- change the umask, or set it so normal users can mount it.
[02:29] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr:
[02:29] <jacopoexchange> what is the umask?
[02:30] <jacopoexchange> i mean, what value of it?
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> umask is a filter that is applied to permissions. For more information on it, read the manual page for 'mount'
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> jacopoexchange: You want to change access to all of the ext3?
[02:30] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr: no, just a data partition i made
[02:30] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: mount it with umask=000 that should help.
[02:31] <jacopoexchange> alright, i try it
[02:31] <J_P> azathoth: so that two months that ubuntu dapper it was slow not is counted right ?
[02:31] <Protocol1> Typhon, nope its a pentium 4
[02:31] <azathoth> not really
[02:31] <sobersabre> hi, I want to use a webcam with ubuntu. is there a way to have video conference with an MSN messenger user from windows?
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> J_P: no.
[02:31] <azathoth> edgy+1 will be 7.04 again
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> sobersabre: I think amsn supports webcams.
[02:31] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, i just followd that guide again, same thing with directrendering: no
[02:32] <Protocol1> it does have HT tech
[02:32] <J_P> fyrestrtr: no what ?
[02:32] <hondje> fyrestrtr: it does
[02:32] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: are you running xgl?
[02:32] <fyrestrtr> J_P: no, it doesn't affect the release date of edgy.
[02:33] <J_P> fyrestrtr: ahh ok :-)
[02:33] <NewpZ> i think so
[02:33] <gnumdk> hello
[02:33] <NewpZ> should i not be?
[02:33] <sobersabre> fyrestrtr trying..
[02:33] <gnumdk> i've got a strange behaviour with edgy, fstab now user UUID instead of device path but i haven't /dev/hda in /dev
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> NewpZ: Could you post your xorg to the pastebin?
[02:34] <caro> i posted a bug about liboostthread-devel package 4 months ago, but no answer on it. It's bug #43368.
[02:34] <NewpZ> sure 1 sec
[02:34] <caro> Is there something specific to do, beside posting bugs ?
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: well if you are running xgl, then direct rendering doesn't work.
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> gnumdk: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:34] <Protocol1> Typhon, shall I try the special boot parameters?
[02:34] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr , Jack_Sparrow: i tried with umask=000, but still doesn't allow non-root to write. options are auto,rw,umask=000 right now
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jacopoexchange: gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus --no-desktop/media      right click- permissions... Just a thought
[02:35] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: what are the permissions on the files in that device?
[02:36] <strav> he... need some help loading compiz with gconf (error output is: compiz: Couldn't load plugin 'gconf')  ... gconf is indeed installed.
[02:36] <NewpZ> http://pastebin.ca/161426 ...  heh pastebin.com has php issues :)
[02:36] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, im not trying to run xgl, i notic when  i run xmame xgl is running
[02:37] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr, Jack_Sparrow: can't write for both "user" and "others"
[02:37] <strav> note: I have even more troubles when trying to load it with cgwd... anyone could help?
[02:38] <Linuturk> I've noticed a heavy drop in system performance on my Dapper install
[02:38] <Linuturk> for example
[02:38] <hondje> drop from what?
[02:38] <Linuturk> when the screensaver comes on, it takes up to 2 or 3 minutes for my machine to display the password dialog to get back on my system
[02:39] <Linuturk> hondje, drop from instant
[02:39] <Protocol1> Typhon, Im going to try "noapic nolapic" with the boot option
[02:39] <hondje> No, I mean from .... dropped from a fresh install, for example?
[02:39] <cafuego> Did you enable some weird opengl screensavers without having opengl?
[02:39] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, did u get my url for pastebin? i didnt add your nick in front of it, sorry
[02:39] <strav> is there a specific chan on compiz?
[02:39] <mugam> unable to load mp3 songs Music Player replied Did you run gst-register
[02:39] <FurryNemesis> strav, #compiz
[02:39] <Linuturk> hondje, I recently did a fresh install, restoring my /home directory
[02:39] <kishore> hi al
[02:39] <earthian> what does that mean in fsck: Multiply-claimed block(s) in inode 43992284: 88008583 88008584 ??
[02:40] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr, Jack_Sparrow: this morning i also tried to manyally allow write for everybody, but that would only work for first level, meaning all subfolders still would have write denied
[02:40] <strav> Linuturk: I should add: or without your card configured for glx, (opengl)
[02:40] <FurryNemesis> not any more it seems
[02:40] <hondje> Linuturk: I bet cafuego is right, if that's the only thing going weird instead of just an example
[02:40] <NewpZ> how do i stop using xgl?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> NewpZ: Looks like you have done some work trying to get that geforce FX card to do tv out
[02:40] <ucordes> does anybody know a graphical interface to control acpi settings such ass frequency and read out thermal values?
[02:40] <FurryNemesis> try #xgl instead
[02:40] <NewpZ> Jack_Sparrow,  yeah, that wokis :)
[02:40] <NewpZ> works
[02:40] <NewpZ> after a lot of work hehe
[02:41] <Linuturk> hondje, well, it doesn't stop with the screensavers. I'm noticing a highter than usual system load (normally at 0%, now it idles around 20%) Swap file usage, even through I have a gig of ram. Slow response from the keyboard and programs
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> NewpZ: That work may also be the cause of the problem you are having...
[02:41] <NewpZ> doh!
[02:41] <Linuturk> I have in Intel chipset where the 3D acceleration is detected out of the box as well hondje
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[02:42] <hondje> Linuturk: Ah, interesting indeed :) I assume you've run top to see what's going on?
[02:42] <strav> FurryNemesis: have a clue why I cannot load gconf with compiz?
[02:42] <chuckyp> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251273
[02:42] <NewpZ> i think fyrestrtr looked at my xorg.conf and ran away screaming :)
[02:43] <chuckyp> NewpZ: you still haveing problems with xmame
[02:43] <hondje> s/now/down
[02:43] <NewpZ> advancemame
[02:43] <NewpZ> its runningreal crappy
[02:43] <FurryNemesis> strav, I've not had that particular problem but have you tried purging it / reinstall?
[02:43] <Linuturk> hondje, the system monitor, and I don't see anything that out of the ordinary. The highest cpu usage on it is the actual system monitor
[02:43] <strav> purging gconf?
[02:44] <moldy> what do i need to install in order to be able to compile software? is there some package that will install the usual toolchain?
[02:44] <Linuturk> hondje, it is strange, and annoying. I can't figure out what is causing this for the life of me. It's getting to the point where the machine is annoying to use because I know it works faster than this
[02:44] <strav> FurryNemesis: purging gconf?
[02:44] <hondje> Linuturk: Hmmm, could your CPU be throttled back and not turning back on when it has a load?
[02:44] <FurryNemesis> yep, if you can work out how
[02:45] <Protocol1> Typhon, I think I solved it buy booting with the irqpoll option
[02:45] <Linuturk> hondje, I have that monitored as well, It does throttle, but it always ramps up when needed.
[02:45] <Protocol1> ;)
[02:45] <hondje> ah damn, that was my best idea :)
[02:45] <Linuturk> hondje, I notice a lot of harddisk access whenever it gets slow
[02:46] <Linuturk> hondje, which concerns me, because my system never used the swap file before, and now it constantly uses 3% of a gig
[02:46] <hondje> You said it's swapping out too much...is reading/writing from swap in a stupid manner (like with open applications), or just swapping out more than you'd like
[02:46] <klerfayt> download manager for firefox that allows resume later?
[02:47] <Linuturk> in a stupid manner. I have a gig of ram, and only 25% is used by programs (the rest is cache)
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> klerfayt: try freeloader
[02:47] <kishore> in ubuntu.. i dont find any difference in opening a folder in open mode and in browse mode
[02:47] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, did you get a chance to look at y xconf?
[02:47] <hondje> Linuturk: Here's a fun thought....try /sbin/swapoff and see what happens?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> NewpZ: I dont see a busid in your Video Card setup.. not sure if that could be a problem..
[02:48] <dsas> kishore: in "open mode" whenever you click on a new folder it should open up in a new window
[02:48] <Linuturk> ok, I'll try that hondje. anything else I should check? any logs?
[02:49] <hondje> if you're running something silly like xgl, I'd blame it first Linuturk
[02:49] <Hoxzer> Has somebody here got alsa-oss emulation work?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: where is the link? I missed it.
[02:49] <jacopoexchange> does anyone know how to allow non-root to write an ext3 partition?
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> http://pastebin.ca/161426
[02:49] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.ca/161426
[02:49] <Linuturk> hondje, no xgl, I'm not brave enough for that yet. I also stopped using gdesklets since this last install
[02:50] <hondje> Linuturk: If you're familiar with sysctl I would look around there for anything fishy
[02:50] <NewpZ>  i guess i can kill the svideo thing and do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:50] <Linuturk> not familar at all
[02:50] <NewpZ> and see if it magicly starts working
[02:50] <NewpZ> i dont think so though
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> NewpZ: MAke a backup copy first
[02:50] <NewpZ> yeah i have about 110 of those
[02:50] <NewpZ> hehe
[02:50] <kishore> dsas, hey but i dont find any difference.. every thing is going in same way
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: turn off xgl, it will work fine. Paste the ouput of glxinfo
[02:51] <hondje> Linuturk: Performance is such a tricky thing :( I'd still look at the graphic card first :-/
[02:51] <hondje> maybej ust a bad setting
[02:51] <Linuturk> hondje, would there be anything from my old /home directory that might cause this?
[02:51] <Linuturk> any old configs?
[02:51] <dsas> kishore: browse mode should also have more toolbars (backwards, forwards, home buttons etc)
[02:51] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, how do i turn off xgl?
[02:51] <hondje> Linuturk: Not that I can think of. $HOME is pretty isolated from important things
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: undo the changes to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[02:52] <Abst> What is the command to view all files related to X?
[02:52] <hondje> Unless you have some weird Gnome thing that unearthed a bug...but logging into another DE would check that in a hurry, and it's probably not that anyway
[02:52] <kishore> dsas, every thing same.. here..
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> Abst: there is no such command, what are you trying to do?
[02:52] <SeanTater> gam_server is consuming 50% of my clock cycles and making my computer laggy. killall only makes it respawn.. What do I need to do to fix it?
[02:52] <Abst> There is
[02:52] <Abst> I've used it
[02:52] <Linuturk> hondje, so create another user and login? and see if the performance is still cripled?
[02:53] <Abst> I need to find a directory of a program I installed using apt-get
[02:53] <NewpZ> umm.. do i just coment all the xgl stuff out at the bottom?
[02:53] <NewpZ> under [servers]
[02:53] <hondje> Linuturk: Oh, not a bad idea at all :D
[02:53] <Mortice> abst: a directory? what for? configuration? shared data? or where the program file lives?
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: yes, then, save the file, and restart X, then login.
[02:53] <NewpZ> [servers] # Override display 1 to use Xgl ---> 0=Xgl
[02:53] <jacopoexchange> does anyone know how to allow non-root to write an ext3 partition?
[02:53] <Abst> Where the plugins are
[02:53] <hondje> oh, and maybe check to see if someone is trying to brute force sshd :D That'll cause a slowdown :(
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> Abst: dpkg -l
[02:54] <Abst> Yeah
[02:54] <Abst> Thats it
[02:54] <gnumdk> jacopoexchange: sudo?
[02:55] <jacopoexchange> gnumdk: i need non-root to always be able to write
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: chmod -R 777 /mount/ <-- one way to solve your problem
[02:56] <tuxedup> I was reding ont he ubuntu forums about the problems people were having with their laptosp overheating if they had a intel core due.  Does thios affect other processors, specifically the pentium m series?
[02:56] <hondje> unless you set up the ext3 partition to be ONLY root allowed, any user can write to it given sufficient permissions
[02:56] <gnumdk> someone know why disk device in /dev doesn't exist in edgy?
[02:56] <tryggvi> Hello, I am having some troubles installing Ubuntu (on a rather old laptop). It freezes when it starts configuring Xorg (around 60%). Any ideas how to fix it?
[02:56] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.ca/161436 --->  still no directrendering
[02:56] <tryggvi> btw I'm installing from the alternative CD
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> tryggvi: how much ram do you have, and are you using the desktop cd?
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: pastebin the contents of /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[02:57] <tryggvi> I don't know the ram... I should probably do a memory test, but I would guess fairly little ram since I couldn't install using a live cd
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxedup: My lappy pentium M run cooler under linux/Ubuntu.  BUt I did give up some battery life.. 10 minutes per charge that I attribute to additional fan speed
[02:57] <zappe> can i search for wireless networks in some way?
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> tryggvi: if it freezes there, then it could be that your video card is not supported.
[02:57] <zappe> or do i just get the best?
[02:57] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr: that didn't work
[02:58] <bawer> hi
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: what do you mean it didn't work? did it change the permissions? did you run the command as sudo?
[02:58] <Mortice> zappe: "iwlist scan" and/or "apt-get install kismet"
[02:58] <tryggvi> live cd could start the X server so I believe the video card is supported
[02:58] <tuxedup> Jack_Sparrow: do you have to do anything in rehgards to setting trip point for the fan to kick in, or does the kernel handle all this its self, or do config files for acpi control this?
[02:58] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr
[02:58] <jacopoexchange> i did
[02:58] <Nilvio> hello i wanna ask can i script mouse clicking and moving and repeat it again can someone answer mee plz
[02:59] <bawer> hi
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> jacopoexchange: pastebin the output of 'mount' and the output of ls -l your mount point.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxedup: I just installed it, I didnt do anything special..  XP was constantly overheating the HP... not a problem since
[02:59] <zappe> Mortice: is kismet better?
[02:59] <mwe> zappe: sudo iwlist scan
[02:59] <bawer>  cant sending pw pls helping
[02:59] <Mortice> zappe: kismet does lots of stuff beyond just displaying available APs, but you may not want extra features
[02:59] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, http://pastebin.ca/161442
[03:00] <Mortice> if iwlist scan does what you want, no need to mess about with anything else :)
[03:00] <mark_> hey
[03:01] <mark_> i downloaded a deb package, and dpkg -i to install it, but it failed, i deleted the package, and later tried to apt-get and it now won't let me... how can i fix this?
[03:01] <kartik> what is the best way to configure snd_hda_intel sound card(s) in ubuntu?
[03:01] <zappe> Mortice: oh okey, is it grafic or terminal?
[03:01] <Mortice> both iwlist and kismet are text-mode
[03:02] <zappe> okey
[03:02] <tryggvi> Here's the problem on Ubuntu forums (unsolved): http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242326
[03:02] <zappe> thx
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: put a # before [servers-xgl] , save the file, and restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[03:02] <fyrestrtr> mark_: was the package for debian or ubuntu?
[03:03] <mark_> it was a deb package
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> mark_: so debian?
[03:03] <mark_> its jedit, i've installed it on other ubuntu machines fine
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> mark_: how did you delete it?
[03:03] <mark_> i downloaded it (wget -c "rarrar")
[03:03] <mark_> and then rm rarrar
[03:03] <Hoxzer> aargh has somebody here got ts2 work with software mixing. It is pissing me off...
[03:03] <akonkwa> I was watching videos on youtube, with mozilla, and suddenly now, no sound. I try xmms and I get sound, but not in any flash videos in mozilla. Problem is , it worked fine a few minutes ago. Any help?
[03:04] <mark_> i've tried downloading it again but the same error ocurs
[03:04] <Tenshi> what's with all of the pdiff files that I've been getting recently in the apt-get update?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> mark_: you should have removed it using apt-get, just deleting the deb file doesn't delete the package, or remove it from the installed packages list.
[03:04] <Tenshi> it's almost looking like ubuntu now
[03:04] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22616
[03:04] <mark_> i didn't apt-get it..., but i've tried apt-get clean and apt-get remove, and neither worked.
[03:05] <jacopoexchange> fyrestrtr: now that i changed chmod of the mount point, all the subdirectories are still read-only
[03:05] <mark_> any other suggestions?
[03:05] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, did that, still no directrendering :(
[03:05] <Mortice> jacopo: can you paste the relevant line of your /etc/fstab?
[03:06] <jacopoexchange> Mortice:   /dev/sda6	/home/jacopo/sda6	ext3	defaults	0	2
[03:06] <timshel> hi all
[03:06] <jacopoexchange> Mortice: i also tried rw, umask=000 , 0777, 0222. user and many more
[03:06] <Ali_> Hi All
[03:07] <timshel> would anyone here happen to know how to hook up dapper drake to a windows xp workgroup for access to shared documents?
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !samba > timshel
[03:07] <jacopoexchange> timshel: use samba
[03:07] <akonkwa> I was watching videos on youtube, with mozilla, and suddenly now, no sound. I try xmms and I get sound, but not in any flash videos in mozilla. Problem is , it worked fine a few minutes ago. Any help?
[03:07] <timshel> i've installed samba and sm..
[03:07] <timshel> i'll read into it more then--ty.
[03:07] <mark_> akonkwa, restart firefox
[03:08] <Ali_> I have installed APACHE2 in ubuntu 6.06 but I don't know how to start it
[03:08] <akonkwa> mark_,  I did, but still no sound :-s
[03:08] <mark_> Ali_, try /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[03:08] <bionoid> timshel: mount -t cifs -o username=x,password=y //server/share /local/path
[03:08] <jacopoexchange> timshel: under places>network servers you connect to the windows network and you can see other computer's share docs
[03:08] <Mortice> jacopoexchange: hmm. seems there's something very similar going on here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=7770&highlight=&sid=b89ee2f9a44f5cecccf119574b5dcb3d
[03:08] <mark_> akonkwa, restart pc then... ubuntu sound support is lacking at best...
[03:08] <fyrestrtr> NewpZ: for some reason you are still running xgl, change to the default gnome session.
[03:09] <Mortice> and i'm not sure i can think of any other solution than what's been suggested there, i'm afraid.
[03:09] <jacopoexchange> Mortice, alright, thanks a lot, i'll find a solution
[03:09] <akonkwa> mark_,  thanx
[03:09] <mark_> akonkwa, no worries
[03:10] <Ali_> I just typed  "apache2" in terminal but  but the result  was:
[03:10] <Ali_> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[03:10] <Ali_> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:10] <Ali_> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:10] <Ali_> Unable to open logs
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Ali_:  Please...Use pastebin
[03:10] <mark_> Ali_, it has already startede
[03:10] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, if i put it on gnome, i can see my desktop.. if i put it on system default, i just get brought back to gdms login screen
[03:10] <mwe> Ali_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[03:11] <mark_> Ali_, or try sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:11] <mark_> Ali_, it'll restart apache2
[03:11] <earthian> how come that after a check of fsck the drive still has errors ? :S
[03:11] <NewpZ> i just did a dpkg-reconfigure on xserver... i emoved the svideo stuff so im just on a normal lcdnow... still same
[03:11] <mark_> earthian, it only checks the drives for errors, it doesn't fix it
[03:12] <no4moment> hi, everybody
[03:12] <Ali_> what's the default root directory for apache (to put PHP files on)?
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> 856 users say hello back
[03:12] <mark_> Ali_, google search "ubuntu guide" it has a step by step on how to set up apache2, mysql and php
[03:12] <mark_> Ali_, it'll be more help then anyone in here
[03:13] <mark_> Ali_, but to answer your question, by default your apache2 working dir is /var/www/
[03:13] <mwe> !lamp
[03:13] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:13] <earthian> mark_: how do i fix it?
[03:13] <Ali_> thanx & bye
[03:14] <mark_> earthian, sorry mate, no idea i've never had to fix a drive.. if they're broken i usually buy a new one
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> mark_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118260
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> woops
[03:14] <earthian> mark_: bronken is not the drive but the filesystem
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian:  go to that link
[03:15] <mark_> earthian, sorry, i misunderstood! Jack has the answer
[03:15] <earthian> k
[03:15] <earthian> :)
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry Mark
[03:16] <jacopoexchange> Mortice: I changed the ownership of the mount point and it seems to be working, though i doubt another user might be able to write to that partition
[03:16] <Mortice> jacopoexchange: if that's working, chgrp it to some group other users will be in
[03:16] <hondje> jacopoexchange: depending on the filesystem, you might be able to set the umask in the options field in fstab
[03:16] <mark_> Jack_Sparrow, don't apologise, we're all here to help
[03:16] <nalpha> guys help what is this
[03:16] <nalpha> ou have been k-lined.
[03:16] <nalpha> [20:17]  [error]  Closing Link: <IP_ADDRESS> (Open proxy found on your host, please visit http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=<IP_ADDRESS> (2006/09/05 06.09))
[03:17] <hondje> nalpha: That means freenode's defenses don't like you
[03:17] <nalpha> guys help what is this
[03:17] <nalpha> [20:17]  [465]  You have been k-lined.
[03:17] <nalpha> [20:17]  [error]  Closing Link: <IP_ADDRESS> (Open proxy found on your host, please visit http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=<IP_ADDRESS> (2006/09/05 06.09)
[03:17] <mark_> nalpha, k-lined, is being kicked/banned from server, theres man.. k-line, g-line
[03:17] <mark_> nalpha, etc. etc.
[03:17] <nalpha> eh i'm sorry
[03:17] <nalpha> two times sorry all...
[03:17] <mwe> jacopoexchange: permissions of mount points don't mean anything for mounted file systems. only mount options do
[03:17] <jacopoexchange> hondje: i knew that, in fact i have never had troubles with vfat, but ext3 just seems to be damn hard to get written to
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> nalpha: You were probably K-lined for flooding...  :)
[03:18] <nalpha> why i have been k-lined?
[03:18] <nalpha> hah??? when i'm flooding out?
[03:18] <Mortice> nalpha: the message you pasted tells you why
[03:18] <nalpha> so i will be k-linned forever?
[03:18] <jacopoexchange> mwe: that is not true, in fact changing the ownership of the mount point made me able to write to the mounted file system as non-root
[03:18] <mark_> nalpha, yes :)
[03:19] <nalpha> oh my god.... how to contact the administrator?
[03:19] <earthian> Jack_Sparrow: i do not understand that article.. i already ran fsck -y /dev/...
[03:19] <mark_> nalpha, unless you get a proxy, or a new ISP, or that subnet gets unbanned
[03:19] <earthian> :)
[03:19] <mwe> jacopoexchange: then your system i weird.
[03:19] <mark_> bah, stupid questions! :) i'm going to bed
[03:19] <hondje> nalpha: freenode.net's website has a FAQ with contact info and all that
[03:19] <mark_> night guys
[03:19] <mark_> happy bunting
[03:19] <NewpZ> @(^$@(*^$(@^ i reconfigured xserver, reinstalld the nvidia drivers, followed the all the steps and still no direct rendering
[03:19] <earthian> i believe i have alread fixed the errors dont me?
[03:19] <earthian> now i run again.
[03:20] <jacopoexchange> mwe: that's something i'm quite sure about. anyhow, there are many posts on forums that used workarounds like mine, and worked for everybody
[03:20] <Chandu> hi how to disable ssh and rsh passwords
[03:20] <mwe> jacopoexchange: usually the "users" option decides if users can mount something
[03:20] <mwe> jacopoexchange: I see
[03:20] <Chandu> I want to access my other pc through ssh and rsh without using password
[03:20] <hondje> Chandu: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:20] <jacopoexchange> mwe: my problem wasn't that much mounting, but writing to the fs
[03:20] <musti> Hello, Does anybofy know how to switch a Kubuntu installation to normal Ubuntu without reinstalling ?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> earthian:  If  ... fsck -y /dev/...   didnt fix it you may have hard errors not soft (fixable) errors on that drive
[03:20] <hondje> musti: from a terminal, run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <earthian> :S
[03:21] <Chandu> hondje:what I have to edit in that file
[03:21] <Mortice> musti: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and make sure to choose gdm as the default display manager
[03:21] <mwe> jacopoexchange: and perms of the mount point changed that?
[03:21] <timshel> jack_sparrow: i'm getting timeout's when connecting to opex_red; does that mean i need to use the method for 'accessing protected network folders' with my username on opex red? or just and administrative username on the window's workgroup?
[03:21] <Chandu> hondje:in source machine or target machine
[03:21] <jacopoexchange> mwe: yessir
[03:21] <jacopoexchange> don't ask me why, but it did
[03:21] <mwe> jacopoexchange: at least it's not intended to work like that
[03:21] <hondje> Chandu: On the box running the OpenSSH server ... so the one you're connecting to
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> timshel: I havent used samba in a long time.. I dont know
[03:22] <timshel> ah, kk. i appreciate the help you've given me thus far--got to run though. thanks alot
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:22] <musti> Mortice, Do i set it default in xorg.conf or just when i log out
[03:22] <jacopoexchange> mwe: i totally agree with you. there should be something like umask for vfat to allow that. I'm thinking about reporting it as a bug, or at least a limitation of how ext3 partitions are handled
[03:22] <NewpZ> can i just uninstall xgl or something?
[03:23] <Mortice> musti: neither. you'll get a debconf prompt asking you to choose the default display manager during the installation of ubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <mwe> jacopoexchange: whether it's root.root and 000 or foo.foo 777 is not suppossed to matter once the file system is mounted. so it is a bug if it does
[03:23] <[L30N] > hi is there a way to install ubuntu from a floppy or usb device?
[03:23] <Mortice> (provided that gdm wasn't already installed)
[03:23] <NewpZ> i can not for the life of me figure out why i cant get the nvidia drivers up and going
[03:23] <hondje> you can set umask for the partition anyways by hand afaik
[03:23] <Mortice> if gdm is already installed, you need to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:24] <der0b> morning folks, if I'm using the i810 drivers, do I already have 3d accelerated video?
[03:24] <earthian> lol fsck -C owns :D
[03:24] <NewpZ> Mortice, YOUR THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:24] <NewpZ> that was it
[03:25] <NewpZ> thanks~!
[03:25] <Mortice> newpz: no worries
[03:25] <fabiomazzarino> hello, folks. I'm still having problems configuring xgl with Radeon 9200SE.
[03:25] <Mortice> what did i help you with again? :)
[03:25] <hondje> der0b: Intel handles the i810 driver themselves, so I 'think' that it's good to go out of the box
[03:25] <NewpZ> fyrestrtr, is too for figuring out it was xgl :)
[03:25] <fabiomazzarino> I'm receiving the following error: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[03:25] <salvio2321> hoal
[03:26] <salvio2321> hola
[03:26] <SeanTater> How do I take a torch to gam_server? It's consuming my cpu....
[03:26] <salvio2321> yo busca a spanish chat
[03:26] <fabiomazzarino> xgl is working, but compiz simply returns this error.
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[03:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:26] <salvio2321> gracias
[03:26] <earthian> i installed a package called "hardware-monitor" i cant somehow find how do i launch that application?
[03:26] <Jack_Sparrow> por nada
[03:26] <earthian> !info hardware-monitor
[03:26] <ubotu> hardware-monitor: Monitor applet for the Gnome panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-3build1 (dapper), package size 728 kB, installed size 2600 kB
[03:26] <earthian> :o
[03:27] <Protocol1> If I have a 1 GB of ram...what would be a good swap size?
[03:27] <hondje> SeanTater: Basically, by not using Gnome :)
[03:27] <hondje> Protocol1: 2x swap
[03:27] <SeanTater> hondje: I don;t
[03:27] <SeanTater> hondje: I use kubuntu without ubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <shadeofgrey> hey is anybiody here running ubuntu on onme of the intel macpro desktop workstations?
[03:28] <Protocol1> you mean 2 GB
[03:28] <Protocol1> ?
[03:28] <hondje> oh, then I dunno :) gam watches for file changes and stuff, I've never touched it though :-/
[03:28] <michaels_> how do I enable mp3 encoding for sound juicer?
[03:28] <wuzzy> hi! how do i mount a hfs+ volume (or any volume for that matter) so that it is rw for all users?
[03:28] <Dimensions> how do i create ttyACM0 node permanently ??
[03:28] <SeanTater> hondje: I've had problems with it constantly
[03:28] <der0b> thanks hondje, is it safe to assume that if glxgears runs smoothly that I have 3d accel?
[03:29] <wuzzy> and is rw support for hfs+ any good?
[03:29] <hondje> der0b: Yep, that's my metric for working / not working
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> glxgears -printfps
[03:29] <der0b> thanks again :)
[03:29] <Protocol1> its installing
[03:29] <NewpZ> Mortice, how can i configure gdm to startup and run an app (like xmame) instead of the login screen of gnome?
[03:29] <hondje> wuzzy: I'd look at the man page for mount for all the options, you can use /hfs+ to search through it rapidly
[03:29] <Protocol1> I just hope I didnt ruin my NTFS partition
[03:30] <Protocol1> its saying that its using the free space
[03:30] <hondje> Unless you're a newbie, in which case I can walk you through mounting if you need it
[03:30] <Mortice> NewpZ: for something like an arcade box?
[03:30] <NewpZ> exactly :)
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[03:30] <NewpZ> i have advancemenu and advance mame
[03:30] <Protocol1> would the free space be the unallocated parition I just created?
[03:30] <NewpZ> i want to just bootup and start up advancemenu
[03:31] <Mortice> you'd be better off not running a display manager at all and having your startx script open xmame or whatever directly, i think. But I've not done anything like that. There's probably a howto around for that
[03:31] <hondje> wuzzy: oh, and the r/w support is fine afaik
[03:32] <NewpZ> yeah, ive been looking.. i havent found anything yet
[03:32] <wuzzy> hondje: ok thanks! ill give it a shot, i guess that setting the uid and gid should do it..
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys I got an avi movie here and I wouild like to convert it to dvd, is there a pretty simple tool for doing this in ubuntu??
[03:32] <NewpZ> i used to play play quake like that back in the day
[03:32] <NewpZ> xsession
[03:32] <hondje> wuzzy: cool :) I mount hfs+ fairly often, I haven't seen many problems
[03:33] <Protocol1> I just hope that I am smarter than I look
[03:33] <Protocol1> lol
[03:33] <hondje> other than, you know, hfs+ being ugly :)
[03:33] <Protocol1> ah
[03:33] <bcarr> moshi moshi
[03:34] <earthian> :( hardware-monitor gnome applet is not good. it does not show my temperatures and fan speeds :(
[03:34] <earthian> does anybody know a software that would show temperature, voltages and fan speeds?
[03:34] <earthian> and that could control fans?
[03:34] <bcarr> I need some help.  Anyone know of a newsreader that will let me read newsgroups that require ssl?
[03:34] <earthian> i think i have some kind of winbond sensor chips
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE>  I got an avi movie here and I wouild like to convert it to dvd, is there a pretty simple tool for doing this in ubuntu??
[03:35] <mooky> whats peoples thoughts on using ubuntu as a small work group mail server ?
[03:35] <mooky> I've not used ubuntu as a stable server before
[03:35] <bcarr> suse makes a good server distro
[03:35] <hondje> mooky: It should be fine
[03:36] <Mortice> bcarr: lies. i'm maintaining some suse servers at the moment, and it's all pain.
[03:36] <mooky> hondje yes, I'm sure it will be fine, curious how wide spread ubuntu server use is
[03:36] <argiopeweb> Is there some option that will keep scp from overwriting files?
[03:36] <J_P> hey all, one question about P4 processors in ubuntu: What ubuntu version I use for Pentium D ?
[03:36] <TomaszD> earthian, which distro do you use?
[03:36] <earthian> ubuntu )
[03:36] <earthian> :)
[03:36] <TomaszD> earthian, install sensors-applet
[03:36] <hondje> Well, I've been using ubuntu for awhile, but I'm too paranoid to use it on a server...but that's just me
[03:37] <earthian> is it for K or for gnome?
[03:37] <mooky> hondje yes, thats my "concern" too
[03:37] <TomaszD> earthian, this is for gnome, it's an applet for the gnome-panel
[03:37] <earthian> is there any program that would work for all GUIs?
[03:37] <TomaszD> earthian, in kde, this is of course ksensors
[03:37] <hondje> mooky: I have one box running a testbed, nothing mission critical .... but the desktop is too unstable for me, it taints my opinion of the server 'version'
[03:37] <earthian> mh
[03:37] <TomaszD> earthian, both will work for both guis, but will drag parts of kde/gnome respectively with them
[03:38] <mooky> hondje I assume you've had very positive result with debian
[03:38] <hondje> mooky: Generally. It's not perfect, but for what I tend to use it on it performs well with low maintenance work
[03:39] <TomaszD> earthian, the standard sensors-applet doesn't make use of all the possible things, I've tweaked it and it shows evertyhing, voltages, fan speeds, etc. the stock applet just shows cpu temp.
[03:39] <bcarr> any newsreaders for dapper with ssl support, Im stuck using outlook =(.
[03:39] <Mortice> J_P: I assume you mean which kernel version. "sudo apt-get install linux-686" will give you the proper kernel for your architecture.
[03:39] <hondje> bcarr: pan doesn't?
[03:39] <Protocol1> what does Error loading operating system mean?
[03:39] <bcarr> onpe
[03:39] <bcarr> nope
[03:39] <argiopeweb> Thunderbird does, I think.
[03:39] <mooky> hondje for a Maildir compliemtn mail service with webmail intergration would you say "debian would meet your requirments in a stable fashion"
[03:39] <hondje> I'll be damned, that's kinda lame :(
[03:40] <hondje> yeah, I use debian for my hula server
[03:40] <mooky> hula ?
[03:40] <J_P> Mortice: but Pentium D is 64bits *EMT64) right  ?
[03:40] <mooky> never used hula
[03:40] <earthian> kk.. rebooting :S
[03:40] <Mortice> J_P: oh, right you are.
[03:40] <mooky> I was thinking more along the lines of postfix
[03:40] <bcarr> ya i was disappointed that pan didnt have it.
[03:40] <Mortice> misread your message.
[03:41] <hondje> mooky: Novell makes it, web-based email, ical, all that stuff
[03:41] <chell> hi
[03:41] <strassy_> guten tag allerseits
[03:41] <mar_cus> Hello people, I recently installed XGL + COMPIZ on my ubuntu(amd64) computer, everything seemes to work good except the window bordesr, why won't they appear?
[03:41] <mooky> hondje thank you for your feedback
[03:41] <chell> where can I find the ubuntu podcast's IRC channel?
[03:41] <hondje> Still in beta, but stable enough I can run it without worry
[03:41] <mar_cus> sry wrong channel
[03:41] <mooky> hondje I'll probably go with postfix - just out of experience
[03:42] <hondje> mooky: for bigger things I usually go with a real mta, but the web frontend is just so...friendly
[03:42] <argiopeweb> Is there some option that will keep scp from overwriting files?
[03:43] <mwe> mm
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone try doing 'sudo apt-get install devede' Im not sure if its in the repos and I cant find a .deb version of it
[03:43] <chell> is it #ubuntu-pocast?
[03:43] <Protocol1> what does Error loading operating system mean?
[03:44] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: you can search on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:44] <argiopeweb> Protocoll: When do you get it?
[03:44] <hondje> Paddy_EIRE: apt-cache search devede turns back nothing
[03:44] <argiopeweb> I'm guessing it means that your kernel is corrupt.
 oh yes i forgot thats built into firefox search
[03:44] <midgetg0at> anyone awawke?
[03:45] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: it is? I should get the official firefox package to get those search options :) I can't find devede, though :(
[03:46] <J_P> Mortice: so, what I need ?
[03:46] <midgetg0at> networking channel is dead...
[03:46] <midgetg0at> anyone here have an opinion about which router is the "best consumer router"
[03:46] <Mortice> J_P: i've just been checking the forums, and the consensus seems to be that linux-686 is your best bet
[03:46] <Mortice> but i'm not sure
[03:47] <chell> doesn't anyone know the name of the ubuntu podcast IRC channel?
 in that little search box in the top right of ff is the ubuntu package search
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> it aint there thiough
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> *though
[03:48] <rixxon> can't get wifi working, feel like i've tried everything. i can list ssid:s and see traffic etcetera, but i cannot connect
[03:48] <Sanne> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, but I assume only if you have ubuntu's firefox. I have a mozzilla.org build.
[03:48] <Uriku> I got a problem with a gz file, and it's the official release of UT2004 for linux
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> i found and downloaded devede23.tar.bz2 what do i do with this
[03:49] <azathoth> !info rtorrent edgy
[03:49] <ubotu> rtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB
[03:49] <mwe> mm
[03:50] <FurryNemesis> boink
[03:50] <pip> how to delete a directory without prompt ?
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone know how i install this 'devede23.tar.bz2' and where is a good default location to download/save this to??
[03:50] <technel> How would I flush my DNS cache in Ubuntu?
[03:51] <DeeTahPanLtah> reboot ;)
[03:51] <Dimensions> Paddy_EIRE: try tar xfvz devede23.tar.bz2
[03:51] <Uriku> >.> what is this windows?
[03:51] <der0b> Morning guys,
[03:51] <Dimensions> Uriku:  ?
[03:51] <Mortice> dimensions: that's wrong. the command is tar xzjf devede23.tar.bz2
[03:51] <der0b> Morning guys, is there a way to list how much video ram is installed on my card?
[03:52] <Uriku> DeeTahPanLtah>	reboot ;)
[03:52] <Dimensions> Mortice:  i always use xfvz and it works for me ... :)
[03:52] <J_P> Mortice: but if I put linux-686 I'm not using 64 its right ? So is better one p4 32 bits HT right ?
[03:52] <Mortice> dimensions: on .bz2 files?
[03:52] <Mortice> you sure that's right?
[03:52] <erUSUL> der0b: lspci -v
[03:52] <DeeTahPanLtah> i'd rather use jxvf ;d
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> J_P: 686 gives you hyperthreading/smp/dual core support. Without it, you aren't utilizing hyperthreading. It is *not* 64 bit.
[03:53] <der0b> thanks erusul
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> midgetg0at: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:55] <Hexidigital> can someone tell me what service "submission" is that listens on port 587?
[03:55] <cafuego> hexidigital: authenticated smtp
[03:56] <synic> Hexidigital: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2476.html
[03:56] <Hexidigital> cafuego:: thanks :)  i was worried
[03:56] <Hexidigital> synic:: thanks, i'll add that to my heap of bookmarks :)
[03:56] <der0b> I have an intel board (945g), the high def audio controller only plays cds digitally (analog isn't an option).  Is there a way to play cds in kubuntu?
[03:56] <fyrestrtr> der0b: plays them digitally?
[03:56] <hondje> Am I crazy, or is there no reason to run a 64bit distro on the desktop?
[03:57] <hondje> Does anything really hit that much memory?
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> hondje: you are crazy :)
[03:57] <der0b> fyrestrtr: yep, I can only tell you what the manual tells me.
[03:57] <[Deathmaster] > excuse me guys but do you know a site where i can search for linux compatible  usb mp3 players ?
[03:57] <der0b> and that's what it says
[03:57] <klm-> in amule, is it more sensible to connect to a server where there are lots of users or to one that has a fast ping?
[03:58] <fyrestrtr> hondje: rendering, databases, compiling -- all that takes up ram.
[03:58] <strav> he all! I came few mins ago for a problem that's still unresolved.  I wanna use compiz with gconf but the damn thing cannot seem to load... any clue why?
[03:59] <midgetg0at> i thought gconf was retired?
[03:59] <hondje> Well, I dunno about running a db on the desktop, but rendering...good point
[03:59] <Nookie> can someone help out
[03:59] <Nookie> with easyubuntu
[03:59] <erUSUL> !easyubuntu
[03:59] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:59] <midgetg0at> How many packages are they offering now nookie
[03:59] <midgetg0at> 12?
[04:00] <strav> well, I also tried loading compiz with cgwd, works but the config app dosent seems to...
[04:00] <Nookie> dont know m8
[04:00] <midgetg0at> last i checked it was hardly worth dealing with
[04:00] <Nookie> i have installed easyubuntu on 20 different systems
[04:00] <Nookie> but now im getting error all the time
[04:00] <midgetg0at> funny that they put time into the interface and yada yada but it only has 12 progs avail
[04:00] <strav> midgetg0at, talkin about gconf?
[04:00] <midgetg0at> at least automatix offered a good 50 of 'em
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> strav: #xgl / #ubuntu-xgl is where you want to be.
[04:00] <Uriku> >.< Unreal Tournament 2004's support is only with windows >.> can anyone help me? I don't seem to even get it out of the gz file
[04:00] <midgetg0at> no, talking about easyu
[04:01] <strav> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[04:01] <Nookie> haha lol
[04:01] <DeeTahPanLtah> Uriku: you've got gz file? ;d
[04:01] <strav> it is where I wanted to be actually ;)
[04:01] <Uriku> UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz
[04:01] <Uriku> yea gz
[04:01] <DeeTahPanLtah> tar zxvf <filename>
[04:01] <DeeTahPanLtah> then after you've unpacked you'll have .run file i guess
[04:01] <midgetg0at> sudo rm -r *.* might work
[04:01] <cafuego> No, gunzip <filename>
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> it's the same ;p
[04:02] <cafuego> then 'sudo sh ./filename.run'
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> then when you've got .run file...
[04:02] <godzirra> Can anyone help em out?  My system running slower than dirt running fluxbox and 512 megs of ram on a celeron 2.4ghz.  I'm not -running- anything but firefox.
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> chmod +x <filename>
[04:02] <cafuego> DeeTahPanLtah: It's not a tar file, dude.
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> and sudo sh thinfy ;p
[04:02] <Nookie> midgetg0at: what is automatix... can i download all needed codes and so on in there?
[04:02] <Nookie> and where to get it midgetg0at
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> cafuego: but tar can unpack both bz2 and gz ;p
[04:02] <cafuego> It also doesn't need to be +x to run sh ./file
[04:02] <DeeTahPanLtah> okay,about this one you may be right ;p
[04:03] <cafuego> DeeTahPanLtah: tar xfvz does *not* unpack gzipped files.
[04:03] <Uriku> DeeTahPanLtah: it doesn't seem to wok
[04:03] <Uriku> work
[04:03] <DeeTahPanLtah> you totally sure? ;p
[04:03] <Uriku> yea
[04:03] <DeeTahPanLtah> Uriku: gunzip there ;p
[04:03] <mwe> tar can unzip files before untarring. for just unzipping it's bunzip2 gunzip etc
[04:03] <cafuego> DeeTahPanLtah: Try it.
[04:03] <erUSUL> godzirra: run top to find the culprit
[04:03] <cafuego> Uriku: 'gunzip <filename>'
[04:04] <cafuego> Uriku: 'sudo sh ./filename.run'
[04:04] <Uriku> ok...
[04:04] <Protocol1> is there a way I can re-activate my boot flag for my NTSF partition?
[04:04] <Protocol1> or turn it on?
[04:04] <Uriku> again, "gunzip: UT2004-LNX-Demo3334.run.gz: unexpected end of file"
[04:04] <Protocol1> from the installation area?
[04:04] <cafuego> Uriku: Corrupted download.
[04:05] <Uriku> I redownloaded the file
[04:05] <cafuego> it's still corrupted, though.
[04:05] <synic> check the md5 on it.
[04:05] <der0b> I have an intel board (945g), the high def audio controller only plays cds digitally (http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-014753.htm).  Is there a way to play cds in kubuntu?
[04:05] <Enselic> If I want to recursivly find all (.c/.h) files containing the string "gegl_object_get_type", what is the command?
[04:06] <Enselic> I tried to google it but failed :(
[04:06] <Protocol1> is there a way I can re-activate my boot flag for my NTSF partition?
[04:06] <Uriku> though it did oddly download at 204kBps while my limit was only 192
[04:06] <Protocol1> from the installation area?
[04:07] <erUSUL> Enselic: grep -r gegl_object_get_type *.{c,h}
[04:07] <cafuego> Enselic: What you need is exuberant ctags!
[04:07] <Enselic> erUSUL: Thank you
[04:08] <erUSUL> Enselic: no problem...
[04:08] <cafuego> Generate a tagfile, then  'vi -t gegl_object_get_type'
[04:08] <ezenu> when I use nmap on my router, it completely locks it up -- so I can't even ping the router.. and nmap shows every port is open.. any ideas?
[04:09] <Protocol1> is there a way I can re-activate my boot flag for my NTSF partition?
[04:09] <Protocol1> from the installation area?
[04:11] <godzirra> erUSUL: so far firefox is at the top of the list for whats taking up memroy.
[04:11] <godzirra> memory
[04:11] <godzirra> firefox and Xorg
[04:11] <hondje> epiphany > firefox :)
[04:11] <godzirra> but 512 megs of ram shuold be plenty to run firefox and Xorg shuoldnt it? :/
[04:11] <godzirra> on a 2.4 ghz celeron
[04:11] <hondje> :-)
[04:11] <mooky> oooh whats todays flame war topic
[04:11] <cafuego> godzirra: Well, sufficient anyway.
[04:12] <hondje> The one next to me is about the same, FF and Xorg run fairly okay
[04:12] <godzirra> sufficient to not be dirt slow, right?
[04:12] <godzirra> My system is rnuning pretty damned slow.
[04:12] <hondje> mooky: How OO.org and Firefox are hugely overrated :)
[04:12] <cafuego> godzirra: indeed
[04:12] <hondje> godzirra: yeah, it should
[04:12] <W_McL> lol
[04:12] <mwe> godzirra: and you said fluxbox too, right?
[04:12] <erUSUL> godzirra: i was thinking of some stray process taking the cpu
[04:13] <cafuego> firefox isn't trying to run a flash applet, is it?
[04:13] <cafuego> Or java?
[04:13] <hondje> godzirra: Okay, the specs on that one are 2.7 GHz Celeron and 768MB RAM, so fairly similar
[04:13] <hlabs> hey guys i need to add some files to the /opt folder. I need some help in doing so. Could you tell me how can i add files to the /opt folder . It says that i need to be root to do so.
[04:14] <hondje> hlabs: Use the sudo command
[04:14] <Masticore> is there a wireless network program that work with WPA ?
[04:14] <godzirra> mwe: Yeah, fluxbox.
[04:14] <godzirra> but fluxbox is a ton less memory nitensive than gnome anythnig or kde
[04:14] <godzirra> erUSUL: not that I can see..
[04:14] <cafuego> Masticore: Ubuntu does that by default, it needs the Network manager applet, which calls wpasupplicant.
[04:15] <hlabs> see i downloaded xammp and i have to place it in the /opt folder.
[04:15] <hondje> I find XFce to be a good compromise between something like Flux and a full-blown DE like Gnome
[04:15] <godzirra> flux does everything I need.
[04:15] <hlabs> but it says that i need to be root. I am using the admin account but its not working
[04:15] <Masticore> cafuego is the package named wpasupplicant ?
[04:15] <godzirra> What else could it be?
[04:16] <godzirra> I raelly dont know why this is so slow.
[04:16] <W_McL> hlabs: call the command with sudo <insert your command here>
[04:16] <hondje> use 'sudo' to do a command as root, hlabs, or 'sudo -s' to make yourself essentially root
[04:16] <godzirra> I run a 2ghz celeron at home which runs faster.
[04:16] <erUSUL> godzirra: unusual i/o to/from the hardisks ??
[04:16] <cafuego> Masticore: network-manager-gnome and wpasupplicant
[04:16] <hondje> godzirra: If you open up a terminal and run 'top' you can sit and watch what happens
[04:16] <Masticore> cafuego tnx
[04:17] <hondje> maybe you have a crazy cron job or something
[04:17] <Uriku> oh and another thing >.> every time I boot in Linux, I get some error messege about a filesystem with errors. it says that 1.2% is corrupted, but not infectios
[04:17] <Uriku> I suspect the source is a windows driver readin and writing in the Linux HD
[04:18] <godzirra> erUSUL: how can I tell?
[04:18] <cafuego> Uriku: No, that's 1.2% non-contiguous files. not an error, but normal.
[04:18] <godzirra> hondje: I am..  the server load is a little high (at about .50) but the only things running are gaim, firefox, and Xorg
[04:18] <godzirra> that are taking up any memory
[04:18] <Uriku> so... what can I do about it?
[04:18] <Uriku> it shouldn't happen
[04:19] <cafuego> Uriku: If the disk check runs at each bootup, then something is messing with the Linux aprtition, yes.
[04:19] <hondje> hmm, I'm running more than that on mine and it's chugging along fine in Gnome .... hmmm
[04:19] <cafuego> Uriku: But if it gets as far as that message, the error is corrrected and the filesystem is fine again.
[04:19] <Uriku> but it gets that message each time
[04:20] <erUSUL> godzirra: vmstat 1, or just looking to the led of the hd and the noise
[04:20] <SonicChao> I have a really old machine, and it fails to boot from the ATAPI Disk (whatever that is, I'm a Linux person). Does that matter if I install (X)ubuntu? Is an atapi Disk hardware?
[04:20] <Uriku> and yea windows is messing with the partition, though I havn't written on the HD in a couple of boots with windows
[04:20] <godzirra> erUSUL:   0  0  24656 102480   1068 192120    0    0     0     0  199  1108  0  0 100  0
[04:21] <godzirra> that 199 flips up to 350 every once in awhile
[04:21] <rogerio> hello
[04:21] <rogerio> i m fron brasil
[04:21] <hondje> that's a decent amount of free mem
[04:21] <godzirra> bi and bo under io stay at 0 mostly
[04:21] <W_McL> Uriku: you should better not give windows access to linux partitions, because it can't even handle the file permissions
[04:21] <cafuego> SonicChao: An ATAPI disk is probably the cdrom but _maybe_ the harddisk.
[04:21] <SonicChao> cafuego: So, would Xubuntu boot?
[04:21] <Uriku> yea but I'm an only user so it doesn't bother me
[04:22] <SonicChao> Or is the computer _junk_?
[04:22] <cafuego> SonicChao: Only way to know for sure is to try...
[04:22] <SonicChao> cafuego: Ok.
[04:22] <hondje> If it refuses to boot from the cdrom, there are other ways to install  ... dark forgotten ways :D
[04:22] <Miles-Prower> SonicChao ? Are you from SoaH ?
[04:22] <SonicChao> Miles-Prower: What?
[04:22] <SonicChao> SoaH?
[04:22] <klaxian> has anyone had problems signing files with the latest seahorse update?
[04:23] <W_McL> Uriku: the problem is that there are some system users and groups and many files need specific permissions to work properly. so windows can mess up a linux system quickly if it has acces to it's partition
[04:23] <Miles-Prower> Okay, obviously not :p
[04:23] <remake> hi guys
[04:23] <SonicChao> Er, kk. X3
[04:23] <simmerz> i have a small dilemma on my hands. We have a live production web server running debian (stable/testing - someone before me didn't know how to manage it). We are just about to get a test server, also currently going to be running debian. is there any way possible to migrate the live one to ubuntu?
[04:23] <remake> i just installed ubuntu last night and so far i'm very delighted with it
[04:24] <remake> the only thing is my secondary hd wont mount
[04:24] <remake> can anyone help?
[04:24] <hondje> klaxian: No, but Evolution stopped wanting to sign my emails recently :-/
[04:24] <Uriku> yea but I haven't got that problem
[04:24] <hondje> remake: what's the filesystem
[04:24] <Abst> Where can I get 'GL Library'?
[04:24] <zybrid> How can i make my thinclient networkboot to a nomachine-server? i cant find any good information at google :/
[04:24] <klaxian> hondje: that sucks...it seems evolution is still working for me
[04:24] <zybrid> is it possible?
[04:24] <remake> it used to be ntfs on the drive that refuses to mount before my ubunku installation
[04:24] <klaxian> but i can't sign any files with seahorse
[04:25] <hondje> klaxian: so probably unrelated then...though I usually don't use seahorse
[04:25] <drezha> are there any programs that can play music off a Samba share?
[04:25] <hondje> remake: Okay, what's the partition?
[04:26] <remake> i have not made any partitions during the install
[04:26] <W_McL> drezha: if you mount the samba share into your local filesystem, every music player should be able to use it
[04:26] <remake> i wanted to but i didnt know which partition was my back up
[04:27] <drezha> will mounting it take up hard drive space? It wont will it
[04:27] <remake> so after messing around with partitions i just left that alone and installed ubunku on my primary hd without partitions
[04:27] <hondje> remake: okay. 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd*' will show you the partitions, where * is the specific drive
[04:27] <Miles-Prower> I'd like to create a shell script to batch-rename files, anyone can help me out?
[04:27] <hondje> remake: so the slave drive has/had the NTFS partition?
[04:27] <hondje> If so, do that with hdb
[04:27] <remake> yes and it says it's located in "computer:///"
[04:27] <drezha> mounting it isn't "Places > Connect to Server then add it like that?
[04:28] <erUSUL> remake: post the output of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' to a pastebin
[04:28] <hondje> remake: and if you can add the output from running 'mount' by itself, that could be useful
[04:28] <sachac> Abst: Is that OpenGL?
[04:28] <remake> output of sudo fdisk? i'm sorry i'm a total newbie how do i do that?
[04:28] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm running on the k7 kernel.  but in my software updates, i still see the non-k7 kernel packages for update.  any idea how to remove them?
[04:29] <hondje> remake: go to applications -> accessories -> terminal and type that in
[04:29] <W_McL> drezha: it's similar. this way might work too
[04:29] <drezha> the way I've just done it doesnt
[04:29] <erUSUL> remake: run the comand as i typed it and copy/paste de autput to pastebin.ca
[04:30] <hondje> well, if it's showing in Computer:/// .... then isn't it already mounted?
[04:30] <remake> ok ok so that's the comand of ubuntu
[04:30] <Mortice> fulat2k: depends which kernel shows up for update. if, for example, it's linux-server, do "sudo apt-get remove linux-server*" in a console
[04:30] <drezha> it's showing on desktop
[04:30] <ubuntu_> !info lm-sendors
[04:30] <ubotu> Package lm-sendors does not exist in any distro I know
[04:30] <ubuntu_> !info lm-sensors
[04:30] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[04:30] <ubuntu_> hey
[04:30] <Abst> sachac: Yes
[04:30] <ubuntu_> does anybody use lm-senors ?
[04:30] <chaosite> hello. Anyone here with a thinkpad got hdaps or the finger print reader working?
[04:31] <remake> alright so where is the paste bin?
[04:31] <proxi-ivan> can somebody tell me some help about ubuntu in spanish?
[04:31] <chaosite> remake: sh.nu/p works
[04:31] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: me
[04:31] <proxi-ivan> please?
[04:31] <hondje> !es
[04:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:31] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:31] <W_McL> drezha: then install the package smbfs
[04:31] <ubuntu_> sensors for me are not working could you help me fix it erUSUL ?
[04:31] <fulat2k> Mortice: linux-image-2.6.15-26-386
[04:32] <remake> sh.nu/p works
[04:32] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: i do not know... what is the problem?
[04:32] <Mortice> fulat2k: oh, yea. my way wouldn't work anyway
[04:32] <remake> where do i type the code for pastebin? :(
[04:32] <fulat2k> Mortice: together with linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:32] <fulat2k> :D
[04:32] <W_McL> drezha: this will enable you to mount a samba share like a filesystem
[04:32] <Shadowhywind> morning (evening) all
[04:32] <Mortice> fulat2k: do "sudo apt-get remove linux-*-386"
[04:32] <fulat2k> really irritating to have those entries sticking out all the time
[04:33] <choongii> hello
[04:33] <Shadowhywind> i am probaly going to get slapped for asking this, Anyone good with wireless setup?(ndiswrapper)
[04:33] <choongii> are there floppy images for a network installation for ubuntu?
[04:34] <fulat2k> Mortice: did a simulation.  it says only linux-386 will be removed.
[04:34] <fulat2k> Mortice: doesn't seem rite
[04:34] <remake> Disk /dev/hdb: 40.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>4 bytes
[04:34] <remake> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4866 cylinders
[04:34] <remake> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:34] <remake>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:34] <remake> /dev/hdb1               1        4865    39078081    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:34] <ubuntu_> erUSUL: plz see pm :)
[04:34] <remake> this is what i get
[04:34] <chaosite> thinkpad people? =)
[04:35] <Mortice> fulat2k: ok, do it the long way. sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.15-26-386 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[04:35] <erUSUL> remake: we told you to use a pastebin.... do not paste here again please
[04:35] <remake> i'm sorry
[04:35] <sachac> Abst: YOu can use synaptic to look for everything that has libgl...
[04:35] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: i havn't seen any pm
[04:35] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: ask in the channel
[04:35] <chaosite> remake: you paste it in http://sh.nu/p and give us the web address
[04:35] <ubuntu_> kk
[04:35] <ubuntu_> !pastebin
[04:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:36] <chaosite> remake: or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ... I like sh.nu/p because of the short address =)
[04:36] <fulat2k> Mortice: alrity.... here we go
[04:36] <remake> yes i'veposted it
[04:36] <erUSUL> remake: try 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/'
[04:36] <chaosite> remake: and the link to it is?
[04:36] <remake> http://sh.nu/p/3041
[04:37] <hondje> shouldn't one mount ntfs ro, or does it default to ro?
[04:37] <fulat2k> Mortice: purrfect :D
[04:37] <fulat2k> Mortice: thx dud
[04:37] <fulat2k> s/dud/dude
[04:37] <remake> yes it worked
[04:37] <Mortice> fulat2k: no worries. :)
[04:38] <remake> but now i cannot see the contents of the drive
[04:38] <ubuntu_> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22624
[04:38] <ubuntu_> its all there
[04:38] <erUSUL> remake: the last msg was for me?
[04:38] <remake> yes erusul
[04:38] <remake> the sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ code worked to mount it
[04:38] <DrCurl> hi
[04:38] <remake> but i still cannot see the contents of the disk
[04:38] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:38] <DrCurl> do nautilus scripts work in ubuntu&?
[04:38] <DrCurl> ?
[04:39] <erUSUL> remake: well there is no problem then if you want to mount it automatically go to...
[04:39] <erUSUL> !ntfs > remake
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: Diskmounter Script   http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  for mounting NTFS, Fat32 and NFS Drives Most people need to restart X before the Drive Icons show on the desktop  .. after saving the page to your desktop use terminal and type cd /home/your_username_here/Desktop
[04:40] <fulat2k> Mortice: one more q.  any idea how to make a kde3 app look nicer?  i have installed qt-config but the L&F still looks odd
[04:41] <remake> i can see the drive in my computer and when i right click on it i have an "unmount" option but when i double click or righ-click>open it nothing happens
[04:41] <ubuntu_> thanks erUSUL  :)
[04:41] <pestilence> does anybody know of the proper way to purge all settings from an IMAP server in evolution?
[04:41] <peterz> is it know that edgy doesn't build UML kernels anymore?
[04:41] <pestilence> or does anybody know where i can find an evolution irc channel?
[04:42] <Mortice> fulat2k: you're using kubuntu desktop, i assume?
[04:42] <hondje> pestilence: #evolution on irc.gimp.org
[04:42] <pestilence> hondje: thanks
[04:42] <hondje> np :)
[04:42] <fulat2k> Mortice: nopes.  ubuntu.
[04:43] <Mortice> fulat2k: ah, i see. i don't know how to do that; i'm a kubuntu man :)
[04:44] <remake> anyone?
[04:44] <Abst> Can I list all processes and kill one?
[04:44] <remake> i can see my ntfs disk now and it seems to be mounted but i still cannot open it
[04:44] <hondje> remake: define 'cannot open'
[04:44] <hondje> Do you click on it and no file browser window opens?
[04:44] <remake> exactly
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: pastebin your fstab...
[04:45] <fulat2k> Mortice: darn :)
[04:45] <remake> fstab? what is the complete code?
[04:45] <hondje> remake: 'fstab' is the file /etc/fstab
[04:45] <Mortice> fulat2k: i don't know how ubuntu's default install deals with QT apps. someone here will know, though, I'm sure.
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit  /etc/fstab
[04:46] <hondje> run 'gedit fstab' in that terminal and you can copy it
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> gedit  /etc/fstab
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> to just copy it
[04:46] <hondje> er, yeah what he said lol
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: Did you even look at the link I gave you earlier
[04:48] <remake> http://sh.nu/p/3042
[04:48] <remake> yes i did
[04:48] <remake> but i can see the drive and all
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: Is it ntfs ?
[04:51] <remake> yes it is ntfs
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I dont see it in your fstab..
[04:51] <aikie> where can I find a package list for ubuntu
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: Try ths link and instructions I gave you
[04:52] <longwave> aikie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or use "apt-cache search <searchstring>" from the command line
[04:53] <DeeTahPanLtah> and if you want all packages to be listedn,i'd try apt-cache search '/*'
[04:53] <hondje> apt-cache search . will dump the whole thing
[04:53] <remake> yes i am back sorry about that
[04:53] <remake> what did you last say jack_sparrow?
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> remake: Try the link and instructions I gave you
[04:54] <Abst> Can anyone help me install Armagedtron (whatever) AD?
[04:54] <longwave> "apt-cache search /*" doesn't return anything for me
[04:54] <hondje> Abst: From a terminal, run 'sudo apt-get install armagetron'
[04:55] <iratsu_> what's a good VPN clienrt?
[04:55] <remake> alright i'm doing it now
[04:55] <Abst> hondje: Ah theres a package, I was hoping for this!
[04:55] <longwave> "apt-cache pkgnames" will also tersely list all package names
[04:55] <hondje> hondje@jihad:~$ apt-cache search . | wc -l  ..... 18857!
[04:56] <zoopla> Hi.
[04:56] <usama> hi all
[04:57] <zoopla> Is there anyone who can help me with accessing iDisk?
[04:57] <usama> can i play real media with xmms?
[04:57] <Shadowhywind> anyone good at solving ndiswrappper problems?
[04:57] <ubuntu_> yay /o\ lmsensors need some major configuration on my dual processor mobo :o
[04:57] <ubuntu_> at least with label :)
[04:57] <ubuntu_> at least with labels :)
[04:59] <zoopla> Anyone know how to 'mget' files with spaces using 'cadaver?'
[04:59] <chopchop_> hi, what does the menu.lst look like, if i want to boot windows from external hard drive (sda2) ?
[04:59] <trappist> zoopla: never heard of mget or cadaver, but usually you have to escape the spaces, like... my\ file.ext
[05:00] <chopchop_> using grub
[05:00] <trappist> hondje: why not?
[05:00] <hondje> trappist: I dunno, just never worked for me
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> chopchop_,  a external usb hard drive?
[05:00] <trappist> hondje: did you run sensors-detect?
[05:00] <usama> is it possible to play real media in xmms?
[05:00] <synic> zoopla: use tab completion
[05:00] <chopchop_> Dr_Willis: yeah, /dev/sda2 is where windows layes
[05:00] <hondje> trappist: Oh yeah, did all that. I don't think my mobo is supported
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_:  Please pastebin your menu.lst   gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst    Remember to make a backup copy before starting
[05:01] <drezha> I have Smbfs
[05:01] <hondje> Then again, I haven't tried since .... the warthog release probably
[05:01] <trappist> usama: there's a realmedia plugin, but it's a little hard to find.  xmms.org took it down due to licensing issues iirc
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> chopchop_,  im not even sure windows  can run off a external usb drive.. its awful picky about what drives it runs from.
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[05:01] <weswh-> what would anyone reccomend for a dynamic dns type service? just looking for something that is free, easy, i can maintain from my ubuntu machine...to get remote access on my dynamic ip.
[05:01] <chopchop_> Dr_Willis: it can, im sure bout that
[05:01] <trappist> hondje: oh, if your board isn't supported, all you can do is wait.  but it's probably worth trying again if it's been that long
[05:01] <zoopla> Thanks, synic, I'll look into tab compleition
[05:01] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: pastbin ??
[05:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:02] <trappist> weswh-: I heartily recommend dyndns.org
[05:02] <hondje> Now I'm kinda hoping time has been well....I oughta go dig in their site
[05:02] <weswh-> do i need to install a client on my machine? how does that work?
[05:02] <trappist> hondje: a lot of it has to do with kernel support for your sensors
[05:02] <hondje> weswh-: ddclient works pretty well
[05:03] <iratsu_> what's a good VPN client?
[05:03] <GNu_Joe> Note: you must login once every 3 months or dyndns.org will deleate your account and you will have to start from scratch
[05:03] <trappist> weswh-: there are many clients for dynamic dns services available in the repos, and I think all of them support dyndns.org
[05:03] <usama> trappist: can you tell me the name of the plugin, i will find it
[05:03] <weswh-> gotcha.
[05:03] <trappist> iratsu_: depends on what kind of vpn you're connecting to
[05:03] <trappist> usama: I don't remember - I quit using xmms when amarok came out :)
[05:04] <iratsu_> trappist: my university's wireless service
[05:04] <ubuntu_> omfg
[05:04] <usama> trappist: hmm, ok
[05:04] <ubuntu_> :o
[05:04] <ubuntu_> o_O
[05:04] <ubuntu_> lost+found directory statistics:
[05:04] <ubuntu_> 368506 items, totalling 117.8 GB
[05:04] <ubuntu_> erm
[05:04] <ubuntu_> can i remove them? :o
[05:04] <hondje> You'd think lmsensors would like an intel mobo :(
[05:04] <trappist> iratsu_: is it ipsec? pptp? openvpn? cisco?
[05:05] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/784193
[05:05] <sophy> my windows don't have the cross to be opened , what should I do?
[05:06] <iratsu_> trappist: apparently it usees pptp to encrypt data, and they talk about an IPSec cisco VPN client
[05:06] <ubuntu_> guys... i have a lost+found directory under my /target filesystem where i am reinstalling ubuntu... there are like over 360000 files and the size is over 110Gb
[05:06] <ubuntu_> can i remove them
[05:06] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:06] <ubuntu_> is it a garbage
[05:06] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:06] <ubuntu_> or my files?
[05:06] <ubuntu_> :S
[05:07] <hondje> ubuntu_: Usually that means something bad happened
[05:07] <ubuntu_> :9
[05:07] <ubuntu_> omg
[05:07] <ubuntu_> omg
[05:08] <ubuntu_> just noticed all my /home is no more
[05:08] <ubuntu_> :o
[05:08] <jbroome> !away > W_McL
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> now ya know where it went
[05:08] <don_jr> How do I access the windows side of my partition from within ubuntu?
[05:08] <hondje> Yeah, about that .... lost+found is where things go when they lose their home...or in this case, /home
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: Make a backup copy before doing anything
[05:09] <mortal5> has anyone here experienced super slow usb transfer speeds?
[05:10] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: i did, can you help me out?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !windows
[05:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:10] <mortal5> I switched from slackware to ubuntu, and my usb speeds are dog slow
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong factoid
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[05:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  ya basicially mount the things corectly and i cant find the right bot factoid for the url.. heres my own i like to refer to.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> The DeFacto NTFS Guide (and good info for vfat as well) --->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:11] <realist> That factoid doesn't really promote linux advocacy
[05:11] <don_jr> DR_Willis I"m going to get rid of windows once I can get my mp3's off of it.
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: looking now
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  heh..
[05:11] <iratsu_> trappist: so what does that mean?
[05:11] <nahoj> any network guru online??
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: Which drive is windows on that you want to try and boot?
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> then you want to learn all about how linux mounts drives and so forth,
[05:11] <hondje> mortal5: did you grep lsmod, make sure that you're using ehci if you're supposed to, etc?
[05:12] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: /dev/sda2
[05:12] <gumby600m> How do I remove the "history" or "recently viewed media files" in totem's "Movie" menu???
[05:13] <mortal5> hondje: when the machine boots i see messages of low speed usb drivers being used
[05:13] <trappist> iratsu_: there's a cisco vpn client available for linux.  it's not gpl, but it's free as in beer.  google knows where you can get it.
[05:13] <mortal5> I don't know how to force ubuntu to use the higher speed drivers
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: First partition on sda2 ?
[05:14] <trappist> mortal5: are you sure you have usb2.0 ports?
[05:14] <hondje> mortal5: I don't know that you can ... I would do lsmod | grep ci and see if ehci or ochi is loaded
[05:14] <mortal5> I'm quite positive that i have 2.0 ports
[05:14] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: that is the second one
[05:14] <hondje> USB problems are so rare these days
[05:15] <chopchop_> Jack_Sparrow: sda : sda1 -> ext3 , sda2 -> fat32 (for windows)
[05:16] <realist> nahoj: you're better off just asking your question.
[05:16] <mortal5> hondje: may i pm you?
[05:16] <hondje> mortal5: hit me
[05:16] <xweber_> hi @ all
[05:16] <mortal5> uhci_hcd               33680  0
[05:16] <mortal5> usbcore               130692  5 usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
[05:16] <mortal5> ...lol sry
[05:16] <xweber_> somebody here to give me a little help on installation?
[05:16] <mortal5> it popped the other two out to chan
[05:16] <nahoj> realist, the problem is that I don't really know what to ask...
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: I made the change I would try first and sending it to the pastebin now
[05:17] <trygg> How do i enable overlay, so i can watch a movie on both my regular screen and on the tv (via tvout)
[05:17] <hondje> trygg: Same movie, or different ones?
[05:18] <trygg> Some one. Now its just black on the tv
[05:18] <realist> nahoj: why are you looking for network gurus here, of all places?
[05:18] <hondje> oh, hmmm. I use my tvout as a different screen in xorg.conf
[05:18] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: PAstebin seems a bit slow today
[05:19] <idefix> my PC won't execute scripts by ./script1.sh, what could be wrong?
[05:19] <trygg> Oh, can someone else help me? :D
[05:19] <Mortice> idefix: does it work when you do sh script1.sh?
[05:19] <hondje> idefix: Are the permissions such that it's executible?
[05:20] <idefix> sh script1.sh works \o/
[05:20] <idefix> hondje I pretyped sudo
[05:20] <Mortice> idefix: it's almost certainly a permissions issue. do chmod +x script1.sh, then try ./script1.sh
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> chopchop_: Join #Jack_Sparrow and I will paste the 4 lines I added below end debian automagic kernels line #144,5,6,7
[05:21] <idefix> Mortice, I was getting paranoid that someone who used my PC somehow blocked this
[05:21] <realist> Jack_Sparrow: you could always use #flood
[05:21] <realist> (If the paste is not 'too' large)
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> 4 short lines of code
[05:22] <Mortice> idefix: heh. i assume that fixed it then?
[05:22] <idefix> yes thx
[05:23] <don_jr> Dr_Willis that page you showed me is great help, for ntfs systems, my windows side is running on fat32
[05:23] <xweber_> gparted is blind - it would not recognized my installed partitions - so i cannot install ubuntu (with fdisk -l my partitions are shown) - anybody an idea?
[05:23] <realist> Jack_Sparrow: use #flood then, if it's faster and/or more convenient
[05:23] <Marsmensch> !netherland
[05:23] <Mortice> idefix: good good. very often when you download scripts, the permissions aren't set so that they're executable. it's worth remembering that you may need to do chmod +x on them.
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netherland - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <trygg> hondje: Heh, could you explain how you did it?
[05:24] <hondje> I missed something :) How did I do what?
[05:24] <davidw> anyone know about dell firmware updates?
[05:24] <trygg> How do use the tvout as a different screen in xorg.conf? :)
[05:25] <hondje> trygg: wasn't that hard, I can give you my xorg.conf if you'd like
[05:25] <idefix> in DOS you always had the comman type file, there is a type command in the shells but it doesn't do the same, what command is the equiv. of the DOS command type?
[05:25] <trygg> It might help. :)
[05:25] <bbrazil> idefix: cat
[05:25] <idefix> what does it stand for?
[05:25] <bbrazil> concatenate
[05:25] <don_jr> I got it to work!
[05:26] <hondje> ^5
[05:26] <idefix> but, that is to connect files righ? so you can type cat file1 file2.. fileN ..
[05:26] <idefix> I'll just try and stop trolling here
[05:26] <mod^> How do I open port 80 with iptables?
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[05:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line) or firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing)
[05:27] <mod^> iptables -A .. +something
[05:27] <hondje> iptables -F will open it for sure :)
[05:28] <mod^> ...
[05:28] <longwave> mod^: port 80 inbound, i presume?
[05:28] <grasshopper> can someone tell me how to make everything one-click in Gnome. Like the folders. Double clicking ev erything is tedious
[05:29] <ritateKeku> hi
[05:29] <hondje> grasshopper: open nautilus, it's in preferences -> behavior
[05:29] <GomezDen> How do I change a users GID?
[05:29] <mod^> longwave: longwave for apache, need to see the phpmyadmin from intranet and internet
[05:29] <grasshopper> hondje: thx amigo
[05:29] <mod^> oops, double pressed tab
[05:29] <longwave> mod^: "sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT" will accept packets sent to port 80 that arrive on eth0
[05:29] <LRushing> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j accept # or something really close)
[05:29] <hondje> grasshopper: No problem ... that should be the default setting :)
[05:30] <mod^> longwave: Thank you.
[05:30] <LRushing> iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 80 -j accept
[05:30] <mod^> do I have to open the input and output? yes?
[05:30] <LRushing> you'll need accept for both input and output chains
[05:30] <mod^> Ok. Thanks.
[05:30] <LRushing> or, you can use state tracking
[05:30] <longwave> mod^, LRushing: that depends on the default rules you have set, or yeah, use state tracking
[05:31] <don_jr> Okay, now that I have what I want off of my windows side of the partition, can I open that space up to Ubuntu and remove the partition?
[05:31] <longwave> i tend to leave the default policy on OUTPUT as ACCEPT so i don't need output rules most of the time
[05:31] <hondje> don_jr: absolutely, and gparted offers a nice gui to do it with :)
[05:31] <jorik> anyone knows software (or any other way) to print out a calender ? i'd like to have one month on each A4 ...
[05:31] <mar_cus> hey everybody I'm having this problem with me not being abl to see the windowboarders in compiz everything else seemes to work, I'm using amd64, anybody knows what the problem is?
[05:31] <LRushing> Longwave: yea that works to
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  simply change 'ntfs' to vfat :P and it all applies.. well except the readonly part of ntfs  - amazing eh?
[05:32] <LRushing> but, I like to keep my box from putting any noice out on the network.
[05:32] <sahara> i need help
[05:32] <LRushing> and LOCK everything down.
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: BE aware that removing a partition below your ubuntu install can mess your grub loaders ability to find ubuntu
[05:32] <longwave> LRushing: don't you have to be careful about certain ICMP types and things like that if you lock down all outbound packets?
[05:33] <LRushing> true, usually I deny all and start opening up speicifics,
[05:33] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow I'm not sure what that means, when I do fdisk -l, hda1 the first one is the windows partition.  If I remove it completely, iwll that open it up to Ubuntu? or is there more to it?
[05:33] <sahara> i just installed LAMP using ubuntu server cd ..... i have static IP and behind router...... i can ping IP addresses and others can ping my IP .... but cant use apt-get or ping google.com, it wont resolve the web addresses
[05:33] <gekko`> is there any alternative repository to the cipherfunk.org one?
[05:33] <LRushing> and I will also add a log to check what is gettign blocked
[05:33] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr:  there is more to it than simply removing the old partition.
[05:33] <longwave> sahara: do you have your nameserver entries set in /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:33] <sahara> longwave let me check please
[05:34] <zeasier> what tools should i use to limit the bandwidth a server will use
[05:34] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow what else should I do?  It hold's the bulk of my HD and I'd like to open that space up for Ubuntu only and remove windows completely from this box.
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: You can use gparted to shrink it to an insignificant size and expand your ext3 and not have partition ID's change...
[05:35] <trygg> j/j debian
[05:35] <hondje> wouldn't update-grub take care of it if he nuked it?
[05:35] <sahara> lol it pinged now......\
[05:35] <trygg> /j debian
[05:35] <trygg> Huh? :(
[05:35] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow so just shrink one and enlarge the other and then I won't have to remove anything completely?
[05:35] <sahara> ty a lot longwave.... to resolve this i had installed LAMP twice already....
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hondje: Yes. but wanted him to be aware that if he just nuked the ntfs and rebooted he would have a problem
[05:35] <hondje> Okay, just making sure :-)
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hondje: SInce he seems new to this I wanted to cover that aspect
[05:36] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow so I can remove the fat32 partition and then update-grub and I"ll be safe to reboot?
[05:36] <ubuntu_> hey
[05:37] <ubuntu_> what does that mean?:
[05:37] <ubuntu_> root@ubuntu:/target/.Trash-root/usr/share/man/man8# rm -f evms_activate.8.gz rm: cannot remove `evms_activate.8.gz': Operation not permitted
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  what ya removeing it to? you going to merge the partition with another? or put a new filesystem onit?
[05:37] <ubuntu_> wtf?
[05:37] <lost_soul> anyone available for a bit of help?  problem is explained http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249143&highlight=eggdrop
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: YEs, but update grub has a few questions you may not know the answer to...
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks Dr_Willis
[05:37] <don_jr> Dr_Willis I want to open up the space to Ubuntu and remove windows completely from my machine without having to completely format my HD and fresh install ubuntu
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for breakfast here..  bbl
[05:38] <hondje> If you take, say, hda1 from ntfs to ext3, would grub care since you didn't move the boot image?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  if you merge the partitions. grub can get confused.. if you leave it there. and just reformat it to ext3 - grub shoudlent get confused.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> hondje,  it shouldent care.
[05:38] <longwave> grub won't mind as long as (a) the partition number stay the same and (b) you don't do any resizing or moving
[05:38] <hondje> okay, didn't think so but best ask when you don't know :)
[05:39] <lost_soul> any idead?
[05:39] <don_jr> Dr_Willis so I use gparted to make the fat32 ystem into ext3, then just resize it so that the ext3 that has ubuntu installed on it is larger?
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> My system has suddenly stopped locking the screen when suspended (no password is required when woken up).  No updates have been installed recently.  What's going on?
[05:41] <CzarAlex> how can I get two different domain names to point to the linux web server and have 1 domain get files from one folder, while the other domain gets it files from another folder? (I assume this is going to be more involved than just dyndns.com)
[05:41] <dutch> how do you extract a .tgz file...can't remember
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  THAT will confuse grub, you basicially delete the existing partition, then resize the other.. no need to convert then resize
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> but grub is worth learning. :P and its not too hard to fix.. for those that know grub. You will also have to alter your fstab.
[05:41] <don_jr> Dr_Willis so I can delete the fat32 partition completely, then resize my ext3 to take up the space?
[05:42] <mondo> Hi, I just installed the "nautilus-script-audio-convert" package, but I have no idea how to utilize this.
[05:42] <don_jr> Dr_Willis and I can do all of this with gparted?
[05:42] <cribbon> hi all. Got a wierd problem. I installed xgl, and it's working ( used it before, i can tell ), but i cant press anything ordinarily with the mouse, however, if i do hold in ctrl it works fine. Anyone ever heard of this before?
[05:42] <hondje> don_jr: You can just mount the newly freed space at like /home/movies or something if you want, and save all that hastle
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  yes gparted can do it. but gpart wont fix the grub/fstab  changes that need to be made
[05:42] <merch> dutch, is tgz the same as tar.gz? if so, tar xzvf filename
[05:42] <dutch> that doesn't work...
[05:42] <sahara> longwave i just ran apt-get update and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop its on waiting for headers for the past many minutes.... is that normal?
[05:43] <don_jr> Dr_Willis I'd be better off just reformating the entire drive and re-installing Ubuntu then eh?
[05:43] <lost_soul> asked previously, but wondering if anyone would mind helping with a problem involving ssl of an eggdrop bot.  Details explained http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249143&highlight=eggdrop
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> don_jr,  you are BEST off learning how grub and the fstab works and knowing how to fix them. its not too hard
[05:43] <sahara> longwave it started on its own ty :)
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: It isnt a bad idea to have a second ext3 to save a system backup and or a copy of /home
[05:43] <don_jr> That's my next question.  I have a cd player that plays MP3's, is there a program for ubuntu that will burn mp3's in audio format without converting it?
[05:43] <longwave> sahara: ah ok. sometimes apt stalls, if it's stuck downloading you can always ctrl-c and re-do the command to see if that helps
[05:44] <mondo> Hi, I just installed the "nautilus-script-audio-convert" package, but I have no idea how to utilize this. That is, I expected it to appear in the right-click menu, but it doesn't, and I don't know where else to look.
[05:44] <foxiness> hi
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !k3b
[05:44] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[05:44] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow but if I change the fat32 system to ext3, can I then resize my main partition of ext3 that Ubuntu runs on to be larger?
[05:44] <merch> dutch, that's funny. File ext says that's a gzipped tar file. Try: file filename
[05:44] <Slyboots> Hi
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: yes, you can make a smaller ext3 where fat32 was... and make bigger your ubuntu installation partition
[05:45] <dutch> merch..it's a tar file, but I believe it's a diffierent type..tar -vxfz not working..
[05:45] <Slyboots> It crashes when it reaches the stage to configure Grub :( The error is very vauge, but does the installer do anything else after Grub is installed?
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: do you know how to make a persistent /home on a second ext3?
[05:45] <hondje> It'd be easier if you just did what you wanted with it, ran update-grub, and asked someone here for help with that, or doing what Dr_Willis suggested and learning how it works
[05:45] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow so with gparted, I change the fat32 to ext3, then resize my main ext3 to be larger and shirnk the new one?
[05:45] <foxiness> Slyboots then you need to explane your problem here :)
[05:45] <merch> dutch, your tar options are wrong, order is important: tar xzvf filename
[05:45] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Good afternoon. I seem to have a problem. I updated some programs with sudo apt-get and now my X server cant find the nVidia driver anymore. I got this problem earlier and somebody here helped me too. Is there a hotfix for this?
[05:45] <Slyboots> Well, It copies the files over, but it just comes up with a unhelpfull message
[05:46] <Slyboots> "Installer Crashed" "GRub exited with Error code 1"
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr:  yes, but you would need to shrink the one before you could make the other bigger..
[05:46] <gumby600m> WHen I run Totem and goto click on the "Movie" menu, it shows all recently viewed movies... how do I reset/remove videos from this list?  (Ubuntu dapper)
[05:46] <Slyboots> I think it was Errror code 1, Im re-running the installer now to make sure
[05:46] <Mortice> dawnwater: can you tell me the output of lsmod | grep nvidia, please?
[05:46] <hondje> Persistent /home, Jack_Sparrow ?
[05:46] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, yes be right back
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  just edit your fstab and mount the thing.  say to new_home, copy/move  the old home over to it.. then change the fstab to mount it as home
[05:46] <dutch> merch...just found the problem...drop the - in front..
[05:46] <ritateKeku> hi, do you know how to fix this error? http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2299/p1010164ri2.jpg
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Jack_Sparrow,  or mount it to 'new_home' move home over to it then use a 'ln -s' soft link to point /home to it
[05:47] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow Okay, I'll give that a shot.
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_Willis: thanks
[05:47] <ritateKeku> it got it when i was trying to run it from DVD
[05:47] <foxiness> Slyboots : is this the update cd ubuntu 6.06-1?
[05:47] <Slyboots> Dapper-Drake
[05:47] <mondo> Hi, I just installed the "nautilus-script-audio-convert" package, but I have no idea how to utilize this. That is, I expected it to appear in the right-click menu, but it doesn't, and I don't know where else to look. Anyone?
[05:47] <merch> dutch, should work either way as long as the options are ordered properly (specifically 'f'). tar -xzvf is the same as tar xzvf
[05:47] <[HHS] Dawnwater> lsmod grep | nvidia results in "
[05:47] <[HHS] Dawnwater> "bash: nvidia not found
[05:47] <Mortice> pip
[05:47] <Mortice> erm
[05:47] <Slyboots> I grabbed it from the Website, so Im assuming its the latest version of itdfdfa
[05:47] <Mortice> sorry
[05:48] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: the command is sudo lsmod | grep nvidia
[05:48] <foxiness> Slyboots yes but the new verison some thing like windows sp1
[05:48] <Mortice> you had your | in the wrong place :)
[05:48] <dutch> merch, thanks for the help
[05:48] <mikeconcepts2> Is anyone available to test Ekiga with me, I've not used it yet.
[05:48] <[HHS] Dawnwater> oh sorry your command dissapeared from irrsi before I could print it in memory
[05:48] <Slyboots> Why did I not get the latest version when I downloaded it then?
[05:48] <ritateKeku> Any one can help with this? http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2299/p1010164ri2.jpg
[05:48] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: no worries. you can always hit page up in irssi to view previous messages
[05:49] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, output is none
[05:49] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: ok, and if you do sudo modprobe nvidia?
[05:49] <weswh-> when ddclient is asking me for the interface used for dynamic dns - it wants something like eth0, right?
[05:49] <[HHS] Dawnwater> "FATAL: Module nVidia not found"
[05:49] <mondo> Hi, I just installed the "nautilus-script-audio-convert" package, but I have no idea how to utilize this. That is, I expected it to appear in the right-click menu, but it doesn't, and I don't know where else to look. Anyone?
[05:50] <stefg> 7msg
[05:50] <ritateKeku> [HHS] Dawnwater: you are talking to?
[05:50] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: "module nVidia not found"? Did you type "sudo modprobe nvidia" or "sudo modprobe nVidia"?
[05:50] <Slyboots> Okay
[05:50] <Slyboots> "Unable to install GRUB in (hd0)
[05:50] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, I typed the first one all lower case
[05:51] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: that's odd. hold on just a second
[05:51] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, sure
[05:51] <Slyboots> Installer Crashed, Then a lot of pyhon script crap
[05:51] <Slyboots> that does not explain why Grub did not work
[05:52] <ritateKeku> What to do with this >>>> http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/2299/p1010164ri2.jpg
[05:52] <Slyboots> ritateKeku Send your Cd-rom to a shrink
[05:52] <Slyboots> Its confused
[05:52] <Slyboots> Poor thing
[05:52] <ritateKeku> what?
[05:52] <ritateKeku> its TEAC DVD burner
[05:52] <bionoid> I'm pretty sure I saw some demo or other of Compiz with desktops on the bottom/top face of the cube, is my memory failing completely, or is this somehow possible to setup?
[05:53] <mikeconcepts2> would someone give me their sip so I can call? or call me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:53] <opexoc> I want to get some repos, which allow me to donwload xchat throught the apt-get.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> ritateKeku,  it always gives that error?
[05:53] <jbroome> !info xchat
[05:53] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> xchat is in the normal repos.
[05:53] <jbroome> opexoc: you need universe to get xchat
[05:53] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: if you go to /lib/linux-restricted-modules/, is there a directory in there matching your kernel version? (check your kernel version with uname -r)
[05:54] <ritateKeku> Dr_Willis: yes.... i am trying to boot it from dvd
[05:54] <ritateKeku> Dr_Willis: LIVE
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> ritateKeku,  tryed booting any other live cd/dvds?
[05:54] <opexoc> jbroome: what does it mean? What should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:54] <ritateKeku> Dr_Willis: what you mean by other live dvds?
[05:55] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, therre is no such directory. =S
[05:55] <jbroome> !pl
[05:55] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:55] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: looks like the nvidia driver isn't installed then, which would be the root of your problem. :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> ritateKeku,  try some OTHER live cd's you got burnt. or burn some. to see if its a dvd issue.. or if its just that single disk thats acting oddly
[05:55] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Mortice, it was installed just two hours ago. I had it up and running but I cant get into x since I ran the update
[05:56] <Mortice> I have to go, but I assume you know how to install it (using Automatix, for example)?
[05:56] <ProN00b> does anyone know how to play flv files ?
[05:56] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Automatix is crap according to the dutch ubuntu channel
[05:56] <mjr> ProN00b, with mplayer from multiverse
[05:56] <[HHS] Dawnwater> but I'll try
[05:56] <Slyboots> well this sucks :(
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> [HHS] Dawnwater,  and this one. :P
[05:56] <opexoc> jbroome: I want yours help.
[05:56] <Slyboots> I thought Ubuntu was suppoed to be easy ;)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Slyboots,  i find it every easy
[05:56] <ProN00b> mjr, doesn't work, well, it does, but i can't seek in them
[05:56] <Mortice> [HHS] Dawnwater: well, if it is installed, it's not working. So I suggest you reinstall it, by whatever means. Doesn't have to be Automatix :)
[05:56] <Slyboots> I cant even get it to instal :P
[05:56] <[HHS] Dawnwater> thanks anyway mortice
[05:57] <mjr> ProN00b, I have the same problem, but didn't find a better player for them either; xine had its own problems
[05:57] <stefg> ritateKeku: causes can be: a.) Broken CD/DVD, b.)  the installer tries to enable DMA where it shouldn't, c.) Drive is set to Cable-Select and cable is flaky
[05:57] <ProN00b> mjr, how did xine play them ?
[05:57] <[HHS] Dawnwater> Okay, will do
[05:57] <foxiness> Slyboots are you sure this cd not damage
[05:58] <mjr> ProN00b, usually without audio
[05:58] <Slyboots> yup, I used the same CD to install on this machine
[05:58] <ProN00b> mjr, but it could seek ?
[05:58] <mjr> ProN00b, don't recall
[05:58] <[HHS] Dawnwater> I'll try doing "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and see what comes out. I gotta go too
[05:58] <ProN00b> blargh, mjr !
[05:58] <mjr> ProN00b, hmh, what you could try is mplayer -idx foo.flv (can't try it myself now)
[05:58] <mjr> ProN00b, umm, -forceidx that is
[05:59] <mjr> Or well, apparently idx would have a chance too. Ah well.
[05:59] <don_jr> How can I unmount my main partition to resize it?
[05:59] <keithhhh> does ubuntu accept 64bit encryption??
[05:59] <mjr> don_jr, use a live cd
[05:59] <ProN00b> mjr, doesn't work
[06:00] <mjr> keithhhh, your question makes rather little sense as such, but yes
[06:00] <weswh-> does anyone know how i can look at what ddclient is doing, and if it is working?
[06:00] <don_jr> mjr I can try that, but the live CD didn't work well on this box, I had to get the alternate CD to install ubuntu.
[06:00] <choongii> hi. I just installed dapper, but my internal network is messed up. I have two of the same type ee100 cards. eth0 is my internet connection which works fine. I'm doing `ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>`, the other pc is <IP_ADDRESS>, but they can't ping eachother
[06:00] <choongii> what am I missing here?
[06:00] <weswh-> it said something about couldn't load gnome frontend...
[06:00] <weswh-> during the install
[06:00] <keithhhh> mjr: I just seemed to be having problems connecting to my router
[06:00] <foxiness> slyboots : did you try to install "ubuntu" over "ubuntu" ?
[06:01] <Slyboots> No, its a clean install..
[06:01] <keithhhh> mjr: in windows I have no probs
[06:01] <mjr> don_jr, well. The alternatives are cumbersome. Perhaps you could try to get the gparted live cd if the ubuntu one has problems?
[06:01] <stefg> Where does Dapper store its script for suspend/hibernate ? It works out of the box on my laptop, only the smbfs mounts stop responding after wakeup. I have to add an unmount for them at suspend and a remount at wakeup, but where?
[06:01] <foxiness> Slyboots then try to download the "text mode" cd may it will fix the problem
[06:02] <don_jr> mjr I can try that, I'll be back in a few if the computer still boots after I'm done here
[06:02] <Slyboots> ffs, Im not made of bandwidth, and how will going into text mode get Grub working exactly?
[06:02] <abhinay> What is the date of final official release of Edgy Eft ?
[06:03] <jbroome> oct 2006
[06:03] <jbroome> oh wow, that's close
[06:03] <choongii> might be worth noting.. in my dmesg, I keep seeing stuff like 'eth1: New link status: AP out of range' and AP in range
[06:03] <choongii> no idea what that is.. anyone?
[06:04] <jbroome> stefg: doh
[06:05] <choongii> erk, doh
[06:07] <stefg> Laptop owners! Nobody with shared folders trouble after wakeup from suspend in here?
[06:08] <LinuxHelp> what's like the "standard" rss reader for gnome?  Never even heard of that filesystem before
[06:12] <stefg> Slyboots: intel mac?
[06:12] <Slyboots> Its supposted to be EXT3
[06:12] <Dybber> I have a problem with my Ubuntu installation. The network doesnt work when I start the system, but it works when I go to System -> Administration -> Network and disable and enable the ethernetconnection
[06:13] <javier> please, a ubuntu server in spain?????
[06:13] <stefg> !mirrors
[06:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:13] <nahoj> hmm.. my friends laptop says: "Hard disk boot sector invalid. Press H to retry hard disk, any other key for floppy", any ideas??
[06:13] <Slyboots> And I dont have a /boot/grub subfolder
[06:13] <javier> ubuntu server in spain?????
[06:14] <javier> can you help me?
[06:14] <stefg> javier: read ubotus link!
[06:14] <javier> where?
[06:14] <stefg> !mirrors > javier
[06:15] <Protocol1> I have this weird feeling help will never arrive
[06:15] <Slyboots> I wont
[06:15] <Slyboots> There is no help here o.o
[06:15] <Slyboots> Only human misery!
[06:15] <Slyboots> ...  Let me know before i assist you in ruining your system :-)
[06:22] <Protocol1> Im trying to boot back into my windows system
[06:22] <Protocol1> and I cant because my boot flag is not turned on
[06:23] <Protocol1> and grub somehow messed with it
[06:23] <lixx> hi
[06:23] <npster> I really need help.  Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> gparted can set just the bootflag - or shoudl be able to. or the grub makebootable command (i think thats it)
[06:25] <npster> I haven't seen Ubuntu act like this before. It started overheating the CPU, and it took a wile to even start thinking for shutting down. I need to make a sort of System Restore. How do I do this ?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> I dident even think the boot flag was important these days
[06:25] <stefg> npster: sounds like acpi-trouble
[06:25] <keithhhh> When I installed ubuntu on my notebook my wifi was off.  Do you think its possible Ubuntu didnt install the drivers for the wifi card?
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[06:25] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[06:26] <lixx> i have some problems booting any kind of linux install or live cd
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi > keithhhh
[06:26] <stefg> Where does Dapper store its script for suspend/hibernate ? It works out of the box on my laptop, only the smbfs mounts stop responding after wakeup. I have to add an unmount for them at suspend and a remount at wakeup, but where?
[06:26] <lixx> seems to be my mainboard with intels p965 chipset and ICH8 southbridge
[06:27] <stefg> !boot
[06:27] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:27] <lixx> has anyone experienced something simliar? or has heard about this?
[06:28] <stefg> SATA-only system sometimes cause trouble
[06:28] <lixx> none of my ide devices are recognized :(
[06:29] <npster> I guess I'll reinstall Ubuntu. Can someone tell me how to get a very very important program now so I can use it after re installation. It is called resolvconf and it is one of the most important programs in Ubuntu!
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> npster,  huh?
[06:30] <ubuntu_> anybody here is familiar with debootstap ???
[06:30] <npster> Dr_Willis: I need to put it on flash
[06:30] <ubuntu_> if yes rise your hand :)
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> npster,  why?
[06:31] <stefg> !info resolvconf
[06:31] <ubotu> resolvconf: nameserver information handler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.34ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 280 kB
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> stefg,  i dont even have a file NAMED that on my system
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:31] <prg2020> Hi, how can I find out what package contains a particular file (shape.h) ?
[06:31] <npster> Dr_Willis: Search the wiki for Domain Name System. It is my WiKi, explaining something very important
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> npster,  somthing so imporntant you cant even summerize it here...
[06:32] <npster> Dr_Willis: I mean the Ubuntu WiKi but I made the Wiki page for that
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <longwave> npster: are you talking about /etc/resolv.conf? resolvconf is a package that helps manage that, but that and the file are not the same thing
[06:32] <stefg> npster is obviously running a DNS server on his box (for whatever reason :-) ) so let's make him happy
[06:33] <j0nas`> any word on when the latest nvidia drivers will be in the repositories?
[06:33] <keithhhh> hmmm I ran my wifi setup in the previous version of ubuntu with no problem
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> stefg,  i was thinking that resolconf CAUSED more problems for my system..  then it fixed. :P
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> i dont even have it installed on this machine
[06:35] <stefg> That may well be... and i can't imagine why someone on a homebox should run that... but that's npsters roblem, not mine
[06:35] <npster> stefg, longwave, Dr_Willis: It is a bug of some sort and no one takes care of it. Just to download the resolvconf package takes a lot of work, so I REALLY THINK THAT THE NEWEST VERSION SHOULD ALWAYS BE INSTALLED WITH THE ACTUAL UBUNTU CD !!!
[06:35] <Mortice> npster: typing apt-get install resolvconf is a lot of work?
[06:35] <CreativeEmbassy> hey all. wondering if someone can help me with a nvidia problem on a new installation. been trying solutions in the forums and elsewhere for HOURS...
[06:35] <earthian> hey
[06:35] <earthian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22637
[06:35] <earthian> errors ^
[06:36] <abulyomon> howdy ...
[06:36] <earthian> it is about debootstrap install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22637
[06:36] <stefg> npster: just write down the IPs of one or two DNS-servers usable for you... write them in /etc/resolv.conf or type them in the network-admin
[06:36] <earthian> errors with udev installation.. seems that udev is searching for some kind of x64 package? :S
[06:36] <earthian> the install is i386 :o
[06:36] <abulyomon> quick question ubuntians ... I'm running xubuntu (xfce4) and most gnome applications get their text big and ugle ... e.g multi-gnome-terminal menu
[06:36] <abulyomon> any idea?
[06:37] <j0nas`> npster: i would recommend putting in the ip of your router as your dns if you are on a home network
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> aint there some gnome-setting service that needs to get loaded.
[06:37] <npster> stefg: I know that THANK YOU. But something deletes them right away, Read the WiKI
[06:37] <earthian> abulyomon: maybe you dont have the gnome fonts? dunno tbh
[06:37] <j0nas`> right... network config deletes them
[06:37] <j0nas`> ... dont use network config ;)
[06:37] <stefg> abulyomon: the Xserver in xfce is set to 72dpi... change that to 96 dpi by configuring gdm to satrt the X-Server with -dpi 96
[06:38] <npster> j0nas1: what?
[06:38] <CreativeEmbassy> apparently I have the drivers installed correctly, because I found a crappy CRT, plugged it into my laptop, and now I can see this
[06:38] <abulyomon> thanks earthian/stefg ... will try
[06:38] <raxip> hello
[06:38] <CreativeEmbassy> can run glxgears and all that, but my laptop lcd is just black
[06:38] <j0nas`> the network-admin tool changes things around in your resolv.conf and interfaces config files
[06:38] <CreativeEmbassy> unless I kill xwindows, then I see the login fine
[06:38] <j0nas`> i would stick to configuring your network settings through the config files, unless you have no idea what youre doing
[06:39] <earthian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22637 <--- can somebody help me with this debootstrap error?
[06:40] <npster> j0nas`: I know. I ve been researching the problem for a year or so. I have noticed that in Xubuntu and now in Ubuntu. It is real pain in the but and only the resolvconf package solves it. :)
[06:40] <CreativeEmbassy> has anyone read into my problem?
[06:40] <j0nas`> okay... i will take your word for it
[06:40] <CreativeEmbassy> i can provide log files
[06:40] <j0nas`> i got it to work nicely for me thru the config files... to each his own i suppose :)
[06:42] <linux__alien> should i have automake 1.4 , automake 1.7 installed ?
[06:42] <npster> j0nas`: I know, some people, when the problem first arise they told me to do that but it didn't work.
[06:42] <j0nas`> any progress with the latest nvidia drivers? (v8774)
[06:42] <CreativeEmbassy> no, those are the ones I have
[06:42] <CreativeEmbassy> I'm new to ubuntu, kinda new to linux
[06:42] <earthian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22637 <--- can somebody help me with this debootstrap error?
[06:43] <CreativeEmbassy> desperately trying to escape from winxp, not having much luck :-/
[06:43] <CreativeEmbassy> and I've tried with getting drivers from aptget/synaptic and nvidia.com
[06:43] <npster> Mortice:  go and read carefully here: wiki.ubuntu.com/Domain_Name_Server  is that OK :)
[06:44] <Ballob> i did the most stupidest thing and installed 64 bit ubuntu now i cant even get java or flash working
[06:44] <stefg> CreativeEmbassy: nvidia 3d is really easy in ubuntu, but i didn't read you first comment. So waht's the trouble?
[06:45] <CreativeEmbassy> again, it appears to be working fine through my crappy CRT monitor, but I can't get anything on my laptop scd
[06:45] <CreativeEmbassy> erm, lcd
[06:45] <npster> The Hoary Hedther something.... codnename and ubuntu REALLY SUCKS
[06:45] <opexoc> Did anybody install multifunction HP printer on ubuntu?
[06:45] <j0nas`> i like the codenames :)
[06:45] <stefg> CreativeEmbassy: what resolution is the LCD?
[06:45] <CreativeEmbassy> i have a fresh install, jsut installed nvidia drivers, and my screen goes black right before xwindows starts up
[06:46] <CreativeEmbassy> uhm
[06:46] <CreativeEmbassy> i usually ran it at 1680, looked sharpest at that resolution
[06:46] <levent> i love ubuntuuuuuuuu
[06:46] <npster> xwindows?
[06:46] <CreativeEmbassy> or is it called xserver now? xorg?
[06:46] <j0nas`> CreativeEmbassy: that is unusual... what does your x server log say?
[06:46] <npster> xorg
[06:46] <stefg> CreativeEmbassy: you have a 30" studio-display or what?
[06:46] <opexoc> Can anybody help me to install drivers for my mutlifunction printer?
[06:46] <Ballob> what the heck is wrong with this? automatix says that there is 64 bit java and i installed it but it wont work
[06:47] <CreativeEmbassy> it's either 17" or 19"
[06:47] <earthian> can somebody help me with a debootstrap installation problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22637 (<-- logfile)
[06:47] <j0nas`> ballob: do you have 64bit hardware?
[06:47] <CreativeEmbassy> just a laptop display :-p
[06:47] <stefg> CreativeEmbassy: so let's assume 1280x1024 native reso
[06:47] <Ballob> yes ofcouse
[06:47] <CreativeEmbassy> ok
[06:47] <Ballob> i aint that stupid
[06:47] <stefg> CreativeEmbassy: are you on linux now ?
[06:48] <CreativeEmbassy> yeah
[06:48] <ryanpg> hi all... is there an easy way to downgrade an installed package?
[06:48] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm on the actual compy
[06:48] <j0nas`> try installing sun-java-1.5.0 from multiverse... it worked for me on quad core opteron 64
[06:48] <Ballob> tell me how to do that please
[06:48] <CreativeEmbassy> i plugged a CRT into the back of my computer, that's how I'm seeing this
[06:48] <j0nas`> sec