[00:00] <viktor> skel, did the following, is that correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/foto1.JPG
[00:00] <viktor> skel, i need to reboot now?
[00:00] <daniellog> so if I use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID for server 11.10 I should get it working with raid?
[00:01] <skel> viktor: no it should be immediate, the first path is known to gnome and isn't directly relative to the filesystem. The second is. So if you do ls -l /Pictures/foto1.JPG does that exist?
[00:01] <ajin> why my adsl speed is so slow under ubuntu10.04 while 10.10 is much more faster?
[00:01] <viktor> skel, yes, i already ls that directory, i'll try another pic
[00:02] <viktor> skel,?: viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/pictures /Pictures/30062012.jpg
[00:02] <viktor> viktor@viktor-laptop:~$: command not found
[00:03] <skel> viktor: I'm trying to find a script I used to have in cron that rotated through a dir of wallpapers
[00:03] <psusi> there's no need for a separate /boot drive
[00:03] <psusi> daniellog, what are you trying to do now?  is this fakeraid or software raid?
[00:03] <skel> viktor: you miscopied..
[00:04] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....
[00:04] <daniellog> well I've been told fakeraid now, hang on I'll try and get a spec of my board and find out what chipset it is
[00:05] <sacarlson> psusi: he's using /dev/mapper so that implies he's setting up a linux soft raid
[00:05] <sckauter> what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?
[00:05] <psusi> sacarlson, no, /dev/mapper is fakeraid, or LVM... /dev/mdXX is soft raid
[00:06] <daniellog> The board I'm using is a ASRock N68C-S
[00:06] <viktor> skel, is this correct then? viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /Pictures/30062012.jpg
[00:06] <tyler_d> hello there folks. breaking stuff I hope
[00:06] <psusi> daniellog, if you are trying to use the chipset raid, then it's fakeraid... are you dual booting with windows?
[00:06] <sckauter> i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:06] <daniellog> no, just trying to install ubuntu server
[00:06] <skel> viktor: yeah as long as you're not putting the viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ part
[00:06] <Foggalong> Hey
[00:06] <viktor> skel, no
[00:06] <Foggalong> Can anyone help me
[00:06] <tyler_d> sure
[00:07] <tyler_d> Foggalong: where are you at?
[00:07] <psusi> daniellog, then I would avoid the fakeraid junk... destroy the raid array in the bios and proceed with a normal ubuntu server software raid setup
[00:07] <Foggalong> With a basic outline for installing programs
[00:07] <Foggalong> I've got complely lost in it all
[00:07] <Monotoko> does anyone know how I can get an installable Thunderbird 11 for Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:08] <tyler_d> Foggalong: I need to know more then that plz, what application are you trying to install?
[00:08] <daniellog> ok cool, could anyone point me to some tutorial or something on setting this up?
[00:08] <daniellog> software raid that is
[00:08] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:08] <Foggalong> Way of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird
[00:08] <psusi> daniellog, I think someone already pasted the link... scroll up a bit
[00:08] <Ashtray777> I need to install Ubuntu today.  Should I install 11.1 or 12.04?
[00:08] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Way of the Ninja (or N+) version 1.4 and a back version of Mozilla Sunbird
[00:09] <daniellog> yes but its for 9.10, will this work with 11.10?
[00:09] <tyler_d> Foggalong: this is on server?
[00:09] <psusi> Ashtray777, depends on whether you want to install a beta or not
[00:09] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I can't seem to get either to work
[00:09] <Foggalong> tyler_d: No
[00:09] <psusi> daniellog, should
[00:09] <mkultra_> mozilla needs to bring back the calender
[00:09] <tyler_d> Foggalong: sorry, mixed up there with someone... how are nyou trying to install? 32 or 64?
[00:10] <tyler_d> mkultra_: lightning
[00:10] <Ashtray777> I dont mind it being Beta, but will it be a smooth transition to the 12.4 Final release or will I need a fresh install of 12.4 anyway regardless if I already have the Beta installed
[00:10] <Foggalong> tyler_d: As far as I know, 32
[00:10] <psusi> daniellog, the gist of it is that you tell the installer to create a raid array out of the individual disks, then install to the raid array
[00:10] <daniellog> ok thanks guys for your help, I'll try the software raid
[00:10] <zykotick9> !final | Ashtray777
[00:10] <sckauter> what is the latest stable kernel for ubuntu 10.04?
[00:10] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you installing from terminal or from the software center?
[00:10] <mkultra_> the mozilla calendar was boss
[00:11] <Ashtray777> zykotick9, I understand that all the packages will be updated.  But some people prefer a fresh install.
[00:11] <zykotick9> !info linux-image lucid | sckauter
[00:11] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Well, neither are in the software centre so I'll have to say from terminal. Which is where I get stuck.
[00:11] <viktor> skel, viktor@viktor-laptop:~$ gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[00:11] <zykotick9> Ashtray777: from beta->final isn't an upgrade (fresh install doesn't apply in this case)
[00:11] <d[-_-]b> Hello, i'm wondering if there are any common issues in regards to NIC speeds are slow in 11.10(Wired) National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller 30kb/s then spikes up 20kb's back down maybe reach 100kb/s after a while of this up and down cycle
[00:11] <tyler_d> Foggalong: ok, so you downloaded the package(s) and extracted to where please?
[00:11] <viktor> skel, that didn't come through
[00:12] <Ashtray777> zyotick9 oh okay thanks!  That explains it!  Much appreciated!
[00:12] <zykotick9> !tab > Ashtray777 fyi
[00:12] <viktor> skel, that command returned the path of a pic i was trying to use to replace the vector-based one
[00:12] <Foggalong> tyler_d: both are on the desktop
[00:12] <skel> viktor: hm ok, I don't use gnome2 anymore so I can't test this. Maybe try to keep asking and I'll see if I can find my old script
[00:13] <viktor> skel, so i'm gonna try a reboot, maybe it takes affect then
[00:13] <sckauter> guys i really need your help, i just need to figure out my screen resolution, im on 1024x768 instead 1600x900, i reaaly cant i've download the nvidia driver, i've put nuveau in blacklist i«ve turn off x server....i dont know what to do....what i need to do for ubuntu use nvidia drives?i've instaled the nvidia drives but looks like they are not working :(
[00:13] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so in the terminal when you cd to ~/Desktop/<<folder>> you are running which?
[00:13] <mkultra_> ....
[00:13] <sckauter> and i dont know what im doing wrong
[00:13] <Ashtray777> zykotick9, yes the tab key.  thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten.
[00:13] <tyler_d> Foggalong: and what is the output?
[00:13] <mkultra_> gksu jockey-gtk
[00:13] <mkultra_> install drivers via jockey
[00:14] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Sorry, I don't understand what you just said :(
[00:15] <tyler_d> Foggalong: in the terminal, you changed directory and ran what command?
[00:15] <BathOryx> tyler_d: I thought the cd command doesn't return anything.
[00:15] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I didn't do anything in terminal, but as they're not in the centre I think that will be the way to install them
[00:16] <Foggalong> tyler_d: But I don't have a clue how to even begin
[00:17] <viktor> that didn't work...
[00:18] <skel> viktor: I found the script I used, putting it up on pastebin
[00:18] <skel> viktor: don't get your hopes up though, it just uses the same tool =/
[00:18] <Viking667> has anyone ever managed to get mpd to work as a service using pulseaudio?
[00:19] <tensorpudding> yes
[00:19] <tensorpudding> once upon a time i was using mpd and pulseaudio
[00:19] <Viking667> ... because I'm having the devil's own time trying to do so. mpd is outright unable to connect to the pulseaudio server, end of.
[00:19] <viktor> skel, hmm, thnks, strange that it hasn't worked yet though, the path for the wallpaper is set for what it's supposed to be now
[00:20] <Viking667> funnily enough, the only way I can get this to work is if I set up mpd to use alsa instead. Which plays havoc with everything else wanting to use pulseaudio
[00:20] <tyler_d> Foggalong: umm you need to do cd ~/Desktop/
[00:20] <skel> viktor: http://pastebin.com/xJvjve5e
[00:20] <kandinski> ls
[00:20] <tyler_d> Foggalong: wahts the name of the folder... sorry for the delay, just on the phone
[00:20] <Viking667> tensorpudding: do you remember what steps you took?
[00:20] <viktor> skel, thnks, btw,  you don't need to sudo for gconftool-2?
[00:20] <Tasmania> Hey.
[00:21] <tyler_d> BathOryx: no cd does not return anything
[00:21] <Tasmania> If I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox.
[00:21] <skel> viktor: nope, not if its your desktop and not another users session
[00:21] <kandinski> I can't import pygame from python3 on ubuntu 11.10
[00:21] <Viking667> oh, and I don't seem to have a "System" menu either, just "Applications" and "Places"
[00:21] <Tasmania> How can I connect my vps through putty?
[00:21] <Foggalong> tyler_d:
[00:22] <Tasmania> If I'm using Ubuntu on a virtualbox, how can I connect to my vps through putty?
[00:22] <Foggalong> The folders are called sunbird
[00:22] <Foggalong> tyler_d: It's fine. The folders are called sunbird and n_v1linux
[00:22] <Viking667> I"ll be right back, while I change things back to normal
[00:22] <tyler_d> Tasmania: bridged network?
[00:22] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so cd into sunbird
[00:23] <sacarlson> Tasmania: install openssh-server on your virtualbox host
[00:23] <Tasmania> ok.
[00:23] <Tasmania> tutorial link?
[00:23] <Viking667> Bah. I need to log out, as I'm changing /etc/passwd... every time I change thatsucker, everything on my desktop gets logged out.
[00:23] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh ;
[00:23] <tyler_d> openssh-server
[00:24] <sacarlson> opps openssh-server
[00:24] <Tasmania> I
[00:24] <tyler_d> ;) sacarlson
[00:24] <Tasmania> I'm using a GUI-based one, not a command line.
[00:24] <Foggalong> tyler_d: ok, done that
[00:25] <Viking667> sorry about that, all.
[00:25] <zykotick9> sacarlson: tyler_d "ssh" is a handy meta-package with both client and server
[00:25] <Tasmania> How can I instlall open-ssh into my virtual box?
[00:25] <tyler_d> Foggalong: pastebin the output of `ls` please
[00:25] <tyler_d> zykotick9: ty
[00:25] <sacarlson> Tasmania: wow do you know how to open a terminal in your vitualbox host?
[00:25] <tyler_d> zykotick9: would ubuntu by default not contain client?
[00:26] <Viking667> tyler_d: probably
[00:26] <sckauter> What this mean?
[00:26] <urbancommando> lol
[00:26] <Tasmania> How can I open a terminal?
[00:26] <sckauter> sckauter@Uby:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:26] <sckauter> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[00:26] <sckauter> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[00:26] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Sorry, but you're going to have to explain that in lamens terms. I've not used terminal before
[00:26] <zykotick9> tyler_d: not sure... depends if you start with mini or not ;)
[00:26] <tyler_d> zykotick9: fair enough
[00:26] <tyler_d> Foggalong: type, ls
[00:26] <gdoteof> so.. i have ubuntu 11.10  i am running gnome with xmonad as my window manager; no unity.  i was having this problem before switching to xmonad though.  i have a trackpad, i have turned off tap-to-click and turned on two finger scrolling
[00:26] <Tasmania> How can I open my terminal sorry I just got this thing today.
[00:26] <tyler_d> Foggalong: then copy the output of that command to !pastebin
[00:26] <gdoteof> but approximately half the time i boot up my computer; tap-to-click is on, and side scroling instead of two finger scrolling is enabled
[00:26] <tyler_d> !pastebin
[00:27] <sacarlson> Tasmania: if you select the window of the virtualbox system you should be able to <ctl><alt> t ;  to open a term window in it
[00:27] <Tasmania> ok
[00:27] <Tasmania> thanks!
[00:27] <Foggalong> tyler_d: what's !pastebin?
[00:27] <gdoteof> it seems that half the time that i boot up, the 'defaults' load and the other half its as i set them. it makes no sense.
[00:27] <tyler_d> !pastebin | Foggalong
[00:28] <Viking667> Foggalong: it's a message to a bot here to cough up a factlet.
[00:28] <Viking667>  i.e. ubottu.
[00:28] <Viking667> !help
[00:28] <Viking667> see how it works now?
[00:28] <Tasmania> It's still not working.
[00:28] <Tasmania> Nothing is coming up
[00:28] <taek> Ohai
[00:28] <tyler_d> taek: ohai
[00:29] <Tasmania> sacarlson I did what you said and nothing is still coming up.
[00:29] <taek> forgot irssi was running lol
[00:29] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I don't understand. How do I go to !pastebin?
[00:29] <gdoteof> Tasmania: i believe ctrl+alt+t will open a terminal
[00:29] <tyler_d> Foggalong: click the link from above.
[00:29] <sacarlson> Tasmania: what version of ubuntu are you running in virtualbox?
[00:29] <gdoteof> maybe ctrl+shift+t
[00:29] <Viking667> Foggalong: first off, you go to the link in that line (http://paste.ubuntu.com) in a web browser.
[00:29] <Tasmania> I'm using Oracle VM Virtualboc Manager.
[00:30] <urbancommando> lol
[00:30] <Viking667> Foggalong: then you go back to the terminal, type in the command (ls >> outputfile) and switch back to the browser.
[00:30] <Viking667> then you paste the contents of outputfile into the right place on the webpage
[00:31] <sacarlson> Tasmania: no I mean what is running inside the vitual manager what verson of ubuntu ?
[00:31] <Tasmania> hmm.
[00:31] <Viking667> Foggalong: does that all make sense?
[00:31] <Tasmania> ohh
[00:31] <Tasmania> I'm using 11.04
[00:32] <sacarlson> Tasmania: then it will be running unity so you can hit that top symbol along the side called dash home
[00:32] <AMIGAS> what is dock?
[00:32] <Foggalong> Viking667: I think so thanks :)
[00:33] <Viking667> AMIGAS: you haven't given us enough context.
[00:33] <Foggalong> tyler_d: This is what I go http://paste.ubuntu.com/915359/
[00:33] <sacarlson> Tasmania: and type term in the search and select term icon when it is displayed
[00:33] <Monotoko> bye all!
[00:33] <Tasmania> wait.
[00:33] <Tasmania> It's still opening.
[00:33] <Viking667>  Foggalong you might have to display your file in some sort of editing program so you can cut and paste it into the page
[00:33] <sacarlson> Tasmania: oh it wasn't running yet?
[00:33] <Tasmania> nope.
[00:34] <Tasmania> Alright now it's running.
[00:34] <sacarlson> Tasmania: then maybe it's not even installed yet?
[00:34] <Viking667> If you've got gedit, you could use that. But any GUI editing program ought to work
[00:34] <AMIGAS> viking667: when you go in openbox configure manager you will see it
[00:34] <tyler_d> Foggalong: so what happens when you just type ./sunbird
[00:34] <Viking667> hm. Thank you. I don't use openbox, that's why I asked.
[00:34] <Viking667> because the term "dock" has multiple meanings.
[00:35] <AMIGAS> oh
[00:35] <djskidd> hello all
[00:35] <Tasmania> Alright now I've opened terminal.
[00:35] <djskidd> I may need your help in a half hour to an hour
[00:35] <Viking667> AMIGAS: as in, it's used for an action as well as a place
[00:35] <Tasmania> sacarlson I've opened up terminal.
[00:36] <sacarlson> Tasmania: are you just running a live cd in virtualbox or is it already installed inside it?
[00:36] <Viking667> anyway, I'm heading off, I can't seem to get my head around playing music AND getting audio out of another program
[00:36] <Tasmania> Installed
[00:36] <Foggalong> tyler_d: It opens! :O Sunbird just opens. Will it always work like that? And can I just do the same for other programs?
[00:36] <AMIGAS> viking667: it houses apps
[00:36] <heater89> if i use the system call "sbrk()" and it returns a void*, how can i check that it hasn't returned -1 without getting a "comparison between pointer and integer" compiler error?
[00:36] <sacarlson> Tasmania: ok then you should now be able to install openssh-server
[00:36] <tyler_d> Foggalong: some applications require that you "install" them
[00:37] <Tasmania> What's the command?
[00:37] <tyler_d> Foggalong: others will simply run
[00:37] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I don't seem to be able to keep a Sunbird icon in the launch bar
[00:37] <tyler_d> Foggalong: different people have different opinions on where stand-alone apps should be kept but mine are all in /opt/
[00:37] <sacarlson> Tasmania: I forget I will have to scroll my window up to find it
[00:37] <Tasmania> ok
[00:38] <djskidd> Is anyone seeding the torrent for 12.04?
[00:38] <tyler_d> Foggalong: that I don't know about
[00:38] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you saying while its running
[00:38] <djskidd> Nvm,  it seems that uTorrent is laggy today
[00:39] <Foggalong> No
[00:39] <Foggalong> When it's not
[00:39] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[00:39] <Foggalong> tyler_d: No, when it's not
[00:40] <Foggalong> tyler_d: I can't keep a permenant icon to it
[00:40] <tyler_d> Foggalong: are you talking about a quick launch
[00:40] <tyler_d> Foggalong: ahh
[00:40] <Tasmania> Now what do I do?
[00:40] <Tasmania> sacarlson: what do I do now?
[00:41] <sacarlson> Tasmania: so it installed ok?
[00:41] <Tasmania> yes.
[00:41] <Foggalong> tyler_d: Yeah, quick launch! Yeah, sorry. Still quite new to all this
[00:41] <sacarlson> Tasmania: so now find out what your ip address of your virtualhost is with  the command  ifconfig
[00:41] <Tasmania> ipconfig
[00:41] <Tasmania> oops
[00:42] <Tasmania> Now what's my IP?
[00:42] <urbancommando> lol
[00:42] <Guest65025> hi
[00:42] <sacarlson> Tasmania: it will be the inet address example inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[00:43] <Tasmania> I've found it.
[00:43] <Tasmania> now do I login with root in putty?
[00:43] <pla> Hi. I just installed 12.04 beta 2. Why does it ask to go through a partial upgrade when I start-up the Update Manager?
[00:43] <sacarlson> Tasmania: yes now you can login to that address from putty
[00:43] <Tasmania> ok
[00:43] <tyler_d> Foggalong: alt-f2 then
[00:43] <tyler_d> gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[00:44] <bazhang> pla #ubuntu+1 for that
[00:44] <pla> k
[00:44] <Tasmania> The connection is timing out?
[00:45] <Tasmania> why is that?
[00:45] <tyler_d> Foggalong: nm
[00:45] <Tasmania> sacarlson: is it under local or whatever eth0 is?
[00:45] <sacarlson> Tasmania: I'm not sure can you ping that address from windows?
[00:45] <tyler_d> Foggalong: tbh I have never done that, I would recommend asking anyone else in here
[00:45] <sacarlson> Tasmania: you should use the eth0 address
[00:45] <Tasmania> yeah, I used that.
[00:46] <Tasmania> And It's not working.
[00:46] <sacarlson> Tasmania: no ping?
[00:46] <Tasmania> How can I ping it?
[00:46] <Foggalong> Can anyone help with a problem I'm having? The quicklaunch icon for Sunbird goes dead everytime I close the program
[00:46] <Foggalong> tyler_d: THanks for all the help :)
[00:46] <sacarlson> Tasmania: from a term in windows  ping <theeth0address>
[00:47] <bazhang> Foggalong, what about right click keep on panel
[00:47] <tyler_d> Foggalong: yqw, try
[00:47] <tyler_d> yay, what bazhang just said
[00:47] <Tasmania> Now how can I do that what do I open/run?
[00:47] <Foggalong> bazhang: Yeah, that get's it there, but then that just goes dead if I close the program
[00:47] <sacarlson> Tasmania: you don't know how to open a command window in windows?
[00:48] <Tasmania> I do.
[00:48] <urbancommando> Tasmania use the command prompt
[00:48] <Tasmania> command prompt
[00:48] <Tasmania> ^
[00:48] <Tasmania> oh ok.
[00:48] <Tasmania> You should've said "open the command prompt" you didn't clarify yourself.
[00:49] <BathOryx> urbancommando: I thought that's called a terminal...
[00:49] <sacarlson> Tasmania: sorry I'm not savy to windows terminology
[00:49] <Tasmania> It says Request timed out.
[00:49] <BathOryx> Oh nvm...
[00:49] <Tasmania> It keeps saying that in the command window.
[00:50] <sacarlson> Tasmania: and what is the address of the virtualbox?
[00:50] <urbancommando> Bath0ryx hes trying to ping from window to a ubuntu vituralbox
[00:50] <Ganymede> Question about the iptables-persistent package...it looks like in /etc/init.d/iptables-persistent, only v4 rules are restored by the init script so what of v6 rules?
[00:52] <z1lla> split
[00:53] <GH0> I am currently using iptables, however after a restart, my iptables list gets wiped/cleaned from something (not sure what). Is there a place to put an iptables command to automatically be accepted/used/applied after a reboot?
[00:53] <z1lla> good question
[00:53] <sacarlson> Tasmania:  I guess you need to find out how to enable networks on virtualbox in windows some how
[00:54] <sacarlson> Tasmania: or it's posible you have some kind of firewall running on the windows side that could cause a problem
[00:54] <Tasmania> Yeah I do.
[00:54] <superjoe> where's the wine menu in unity?
[00:54] <Tasmania> I have firewall enabled.
[00:56] <Ganymede> GH0: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup although it makes absolutely no mention of ip6tables oddly.
[00:57] <tlab> anyone dual booted ubuntu and win7 on a ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3.. I'm worried due to the uefi that I won't be able to install it or I'll loose dual boot
[00:57] <boxbeatsy> hi, my ubuntu 10.04 will not boot! when i restart it, it starts loading grub and i get this message: "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. No init fount. Try passing init= bootarg."  any ideas?
[00:58] <boxbeatsy> i'v tried booting from a live usb to see what's wrong, but then i get stuck on the splash screen, which i think is an independent problem.  any hep would be greatly appreciated.
[01:04] <Tasmania> How can I install Irssi in the terminal?
[01:04] <Firebolt> Tasmania, sudo apt-get install irssi
[01:04] <decksmasher> tasmania   apt-get install irssi
[01:05] <sckauter> i cant fix my screen resolution
[01:05] <bazhang> sckauter, using xrandr ?
[01:05] <chipv12> i am having trouble figuring out how to setup vpn connection between my laptop and a desktop at home.  i would like to access all functions of my desktop remotely including web cam if connected.  also run programs remotely as if using remote desktop viewer.  is this possible?
[01:05] <sckauter> xrandr?
[01:06] <sckauter> sorry i dunno what is xrand
[01:06] <Tasmania> Thanks it works!
[01:06] <sckauter> im using ubuntu 10.04, machine Alienware Mx17 r3
[01:07] <bazhang> !xrandr | sckauter
[01:07] <sckauter> install uninstall nvidia drivers
[01:07] <sckauter> bazhang,  but i just have 1 screen
[01:07] <sckauter> ok im going try
[01:10] <decksmasher> Tasmania when u downloaded it the files will be hidden so go in to the directory where its downloaded IE./home/yourname and press ctrl + h and the hidden files will appear there u can put in new themes for irssi
[01:11] <hylian> hmm, irssi has themes. i would think it a mute point being a cli app.
[01:11] <sckauter> this is so frustrating
[01:11] <Tasmania> For any reason everytime I click on the text box for Irssi and type in "F" it doesn't type in the text box, but rather goes to the "Find" tab.
[01:11] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5 to no avail, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escabe at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?
[01:11] <sckauter> smoke...brb...
[01:11] <hylian> Tasmania, did you type f3?
[01:12] <decksmasher> yes irssi themes are here http://irssi.org/themes
[01:12] <Tasmania> Nope
[01:12] <Tasmania> hylian it's doing the same thing.
[01:13] <Tasmania> Nothing has changes.
[01:13] <Tasmania> *changed
[01:13] <Firebolt> Tasmania, "f" or "F" or both?
[01:13] <Tasmania> both
[01:13] <decksmasher> tasmania x-chat is easier to use.?
[01:13] <Tasmania> everytim I press f at all it does it.
[01:14] <hylian> so even if you click on the field for typeing, type your statement, and then start typing again, it defaults to the search section?... I think I need to be in irssi to visualise this, brb
[01:14] <Tasmania> yes.
[01:14] <Tasmania> I can't type anything.
[01:14] <Tasmania> It just goes to the tabs.
[01:14] <Tasmania> If I type in "s" it goes to the "search" tab
[01:15] <Tasmania> If I type in "e" it goes to the "Edit" tab
[01:15] <Tasmania> If I type in "v" it goes to the "view" tab
[01:15] <Galaxor> Is there a way to lock my gnome-keyring?  As it is, I type my password once, and my gpg key stays unlocked until I log out.
[01:15] <Tasmania> You get my point?
[01:16] <urbancommando> try clicking on the text field and hit the enter key before typing
[01:16] <hylian> ok i am here via irssi
[01:16] <Tasmania> Nothing.
[01:17] <hylian> Tasmania: what search option? i don't see it?
[01:17] <Tasmania> It
[01:17] <Tasmania> It's not a search option.
[01:17] <Sactage> hylian: perhaps it's an issue with terminal
[01:17] <Sactage> s/terminal/his terminal/
[01:17] <Sactage> I'm on irssi right now as well, no problems here
[01:17] <hylian> Sactage: yeah, that is definetly a possibility.
[01:18] <Sactage> Sounds like it]
[01:18] <hylian> Tasmania: are you using a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal, or are you tty'ed in via control alt f1, for instance?
[01:19] <Tasmania> terminal emulator.
[01:19] <Sactage> works fine for me in gnome-terminal
[01:19] <Tasmania> It's probably something that is enabled.
[01:19] <hylian> Tasmania: is there a way we could get a screen shot of this?
[01:19] <Sactage> (but I'm also ssh'd in to my box and on screen)
[01:20] <Tasmania> It's not that complicated.
[01:20] <Tasmania> I just need to press a button somewhere.
[01:20] <Sactage> find it?
[01:20] <hylian> Sactage: actually, i am using gnome-terminal as well. and I also use irssi quite often from tty, so either way i don't get this error... hmmm
[01:21] <Sactage> mhm, I've never had problems from tty either
[01:21] <hylian> Tasmania: if you hit print screen, or prtsc on the top right of your keyboard, you should get an option for screenshot. or if you hear a camera shutter sound, it automatically saved it to /home/tasmania/Pictures/
[01:22] <Sactage> hylian: the shutter sound doesn't mean it auto-saves, it still brings the prompt for where to save it to me
[01:22] <Tasmania> It's fixed.
[01:23] <Tasmania> All I needed to press was "ctrl+alt"
[01:23] <Tasmania> Thank you for your help :D
[01:23] <hylian> Sactage: unless you messed around with the settings like me, in which case it autosaves. i don't know how much tweaking tas has done.
[01:23] <anonymous_> which room should i go to for server help?
[01:24] <zykotick9> anonymous_: ubuntu server?  here, or #ubuntu-server.
[01:24] <excelsior> !ot
[01:24] <hylian> anonymous_: don't know. if it's ubuntu-server, i would think technically this would be the place. let me search the channels to see if i can find a specific room
[01:24] <z1lla> hi
[01:24] <anonymous_> well i hope to make my desktop be a server
[01:25] <hylian> excelsior: um, who is off topic?
[01:25] <hylian> zilla: hi
[01:25] <excelsior> !guidelines | excelsior
[01:25] <zykotick9> !msgthebot > excelsior
[01:25] <hylian> anonymous_: well, in many ways it all ready is. you would have to be way more specific about that question.
[01:25] <mkultra_> hi im back, im usually off topic =D
[01:26] <mkultra_> unetbootin is a GREAT util
[01:26] <anonymous_> well i have an old compaq desktop and i want it to be basically just a network or online storage device
[01:26] <anonymous_> and devote it to just that
[01:27] <Sactage> hylian: well, it'd probably best to assume he's done none, then :)
[01:28] <hylian> anonymous_: well if it's just going to sit in a corner and feed data, you are definitly gonna want to go back to ubuntu.com and get the server edition. it will be so much less crashy. unless you need/want a gui.
[01:28] <anonymous_> ok thnx
[01:28] <hylian> Sactage: i think tas is gone.
[01:29] <hylian> Tasmania: how is the screenshot coming along?
[01:29] <Tasmania> It's nothing it's ok now.
[01:29] <Tasmania> It's fixed.
[01:30] <Tasmania> I fixed it by pressing "alt+ctrl"
[01:30] <hylian> Tasmania: good to hear it. :)
[01:30] <Tasmania> It's good now.
[01:30] <hylian> in that case im gonna go back to xchat.
[01:31] <hylian> has anyone else been using indicator-weather? it sure is crashy in 12.04 beta.
[01:32] <zykotick9> hylian: if you are using 12.04 please use #ubuntu+1 for support
[01:32] <allie83> is there another room for xubuntu?
[01:33] <bazhang> #xubuntu allie83
[01:33] <allie83> :) thanks
[01:34] <hylian> zykotick9, it was more of a "i noticed this" not a support quetion, but thanks zykotick9.
[01:34] <chipv12> is it possible to remotely access and control my desktop from internet securely with my laptop without subscribing to a service?
[01:34] <zykotick9> hylian: ok, then please use #ubuntu+1 for discussion ;)
[01:34] <Zal> chipv12, absolutely
[01:35] <Zal> chipv12, you can use ssh for secure command line
[01:35] <zykotick9> Zal: ssh also has xforwarding for GUI... just sayin'.  chipv12
[01:35] <Zal> chipv12, and vnc or nx tunneled over ssh for remote graphical access
[01:35] <Zal> zykotick9, true that
[01:35] <Zal> though nx is probably a bit smoother
[01:36] <x_chr> Hi. My CD Drive has a disc in it. Disk Utility shows it (/dev/sr0), but pressing Eject gives "No media in drive" error, the physical eject button does nothing, and trying to mount /dev/sr0 seems to hang. The 'eject' command says "unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'" Any suggestions?
[01:36] <mydogsnameisrudy> chipv12:  look up teamview
[01:36] <Zal> I use X forwarding over ssh for LAN stuff all the time though
[01:36] <chipv12> i have been trying to setup a vpn but cant seem to get it right
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm trying to boot from a live-usb, and i'm getting stuck on the splash screen.  i've found this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480026&page=5, but am confused about the instructions.  when they say "change the boot options to nomodeset xforcevesa acpi=off", does that mean i press escape at grub and then type in "live nomodeset xforcevesa noapic" enter?
[01:37] <decksmasher> x_chr try using force quit
[01:37] <hylian> x_chr, never heard of that before. i could do some digging if you like. can you read any data from that cd?
[01:37] <z1lla> facedesk
[01:37] <Chartreuse> PossessedMuffin
[01:37] <x_chr> decksmasher: force quit what?
[01:37] <x_chr> hylian: I'd check on a different computer if I could open the drive :) It has read discs in the past successfully.
[01:40] <hylian> x_chr, well i was not referring to the device. hmmm. for now if you have a paperclip, you can put it in the small hole on the front of the device, and then open it that way.
[01:41] <hylian> x_chr, i have seen this when people accidentally insert 2 cd's in a one cd tray.
[01:42] <chipv12> i'll look at teamview again, but doesnt that require oking at each pc every time they connect?
[01:42] <x_chr> hylian: Pretty sure I didn't do that, but I'm working on forcing it open now.
[01:43] <boxbeatsy> anyone? :\
[01:44] <Tasmania> What is the sudo script for Xchat?
[01:44] <Tasmania> *What is the sudo command for X-chat?
[01:44] <AMIGAS> sudo apt-get install x-chart
[01:45] <z1lla> lol
[01:45] <x_chr> hylian: I'm going to restart my computer and open it while it boots. be back.
[01:45] <z1lla> sudo x-chat
[01:45] <z1lla> sudo su
[01:45] <z1lla> then history -c
[01:45] <z1lla> errr
[01:45] <z1lla> i spoke too much
[01:46] <bazhang> z1lla, no thats wrong
[01:46] <z1lla> what is it then?
[01:46] <bazhang> z1lla, first of all you never use xchat as root, second you never use su
[01:46] <chipv12> took notes doing some more reading....thanks
[01:47] <z1lla> i was just answering the fella's question
[01:47] <bazhang> z1lla, he wanted to know the terminal command to *install* xchat
[01:47] <hylian> zilla, you must use sudo or be cursed. kidding :)
[01:48] <z1lla> lol i didnt read the entire chat
[01:48] <hylian> zilla, sudo apt-get install xchat
[01:48] <z1lla> pardon my english
[01:48] <bazhang> z1lla, then please dont answer if you are not certain
[01:48] <Coffee_> alguem aqui poderia me ajudar?
[01:48] <z1lla> sorry
[01:48] <z1lla> i'll leave if it happens again
[01:48] <hylian> someone please tell Coffee_ how to get to the spanish channel
[01:49] <hylian> zilla, we apprecaite your interest in helping :)
[01:49] <hylian> !sp
[01:49] <hylian> !spanish
[01:49] <Tasmania> Even sudo apt-get install xchat doesn't want to work.
[01:50] <hylian> Tasmania, what does it do?
[01:50] <x_chr> hylian: Hmm... as suspected, it depends on the disc. Are you aware of a situation where certain disks cause the drive to stop working properly?
[01:50] <Tasmania> oh never mind
[01:50] <Tasmania> some dude gave me X-chat instead of xchat
[01:51] <hylian> x_chr, no. I have seen this on windows when the disc is formatted strangely, but I haven't seen this on ubuntu as of yet...
[01:52] <hylian> Tasmania, you seem to fix your problems better than we can. :)
[01:52] <urbancommando> lol
[01:52] <x_chr> hylian: I'm going through my old CDs. This is a random DVD-R. It could have degraded...
[01:52] <Tasmania> I just rush into things at times.
[01:52] <Tasmania> Sorry if I'm annoying you.
[01:53] <hylian> x_chr, it also could be timing out because of scratches or a damaged device. I don't do much with cd's anymore, maybe that's why I havent noticed this
[01:53] <hylian> Tasmania, not me. I am always glad to help.:)
[01:54] <x_chr> hylian: Yeah, that might be right, though it seems like it's *not* timing out when it should be.
[01:55] <scottj> a command like xdg-open or gnome-open that doesn't exit till the launched app exits? or a command to lookup the opener for a file but not actually launch it?
[01:55] <mr-squidley> x_chr: had this problem when music cd was left in the car... i just put it down to being warped from the heat .... but i could be wrong haha down with cd
[01:56] <x_chr> hylian: Damn. It's doing it again now... Yeah, good thing I don't use optical media too much any more.
[01:56] <hylian> x_chr, has it been all cd's, or just recorded dvd's?
[01:57] <Tasmania> hylian I can't DCC send exploit, sorry.
[01:58] <x_chr> hylian: Seems to be only recorded DVD-Rs.
[01:58] <x_chr> hylian: But decidedly not all
[01:58] <Tasmania> I can't view txt files.
[01:58] <hylian> x_chr, i think i understand what the other dude was talking about. you might get the tray open if you killed the process trying to open the dvd. i'm not certain what process that would be, but it would be easy to do with something like htop.
[01:59] <hylian> Tasmania, it was just a cute little picture i made with cowsay.
[01:59] <Tasmania> You're going to need to upload it somewhere so I can be able to see it.
[01:59] <hylian> Tasmania, maybe they aren't set with a default app? like gedit?
[01:59] <Tasmania> hmm.
[02:00] <x_chr> hylian: Aha.
[02:00] <Tasmania> Ubuntu does that?
[02:00] <hylian> Tasmania, ohh, never mind. no, the image i was trying to send you is a png.
[02:00] <hylian> Tasmania, yeah, you can open .txt with gedit.
[02:01] <hylian> Tasmania, yeah, if you right click a file, then choose properties, you can set a default app to open it.
[02:01] <Tasmania> Whatever file that can't be open with another program, it does not show it at all when you browse its parent folder?
[02:01] <hylian> x_chr, aha? is that a good aha!
[02:01] <allie83> i seem to have better luck with you friendly folks... :) facebook games are saying i need adobe flash 10 or greater, i have 11.2...how do i resolve this please?
[02:01] <z1lla> all i can do is install linux
[02:01] <x_chr> hylian: It's an 'ah, yeah, that might have done it,' Though still tempered by the fact that my drive just isn't reading some stuff.
[02:02] <z1lla> i'm not h4x0r
[02:02] <hylian> x_chr, hmm, you know the way I would handle this would be to first dump this dvd-r in a nother ubuntu machine to see if i can replicate the error. is that a possibility?
[02:03] <mister_m> can I tell gnome to remember what I have open when I log out?
[02:03] <hylian> allie83, hmm, what browser are you using?
[02:03] <x_chr> hylian: Worst case I can do that on my (mac) laptop and transfer, yeah.
[02:03] <allie83> why thank you ...firefox
[02:03] <hylian> mister_m, i think you can do that by saving the session. never tried it before though,.
[02:03] <Chamunks> what repository would contain sun-java6-jre
[02:04] <Chamunks> for some reason my default repos are not capable of giving me this package and im about to ragequit over it.
[02:04] <hylian> Chamunks, you need to activate the extras repo, give me a second...
[02:04] <Chamunks> hylian, thank you a load.
[02:04] <Chamunks> you have no idea I'm having to deal with a terrible vps host that a friend of mine used and they are just the worst people.
[02:04] <zykotick9> !java | Chamunks sun-java is no longer in repos
[02:05] <mister_m> hylian: how do I save a session
[02:05] <Chamunks> I am looking to run a minecraft server
[02:05] <Chamunks> and need the jre...
[02:05] <allie83> hylian: i have firefox
[02:05] <allie83> and you're very busy
[02:05] <Chamunks> would jdk do the same things jre does I would imagine not :S
[02:05] <hylian> mister_m, to be honest i don't know. I have never done it. i could google it, but i'm not familiar with the process.
[02:06] <hylian> Chamunks, it's pretty easy to get to if you have synaptic. i can't think of the old software sources program name...
[02:06] <Chamunks> I only have console
[02:06] <Chamunks> access
[02:07] <hylian> Chamunks, jdk is the java development kit. it's great if your gonna do some hacking. openjdk works beatiful unless your gonna use some special stuff like minecraft.
[02:07] <hylian> allie83, did you just update?
[02:07] <Chamunks> openjdk will not work correctly with minecraft servers.
[02:07] <itaylor57> Chamunks, jre is run time, jdk is to compile, and includes jre
[02:07] <hylian>  Chamunks yeah, that is what I was getting too.
[02:07] <Chamunks> itaylor57, thanks I will try jdk
[02:08] <hylian> itaylor57, thanks man!
[02:08] <allie83> hylian:yes..just finished install
[02:08] <Chamunks> itaylor57, has no installation candidate.
[02:08] <Chamunks> Fuuuuuuuu
[02:08] <k_sze> Can the command-line sftp client resume file transfers?
[02:08] <hylian> allie83, i would try and reboot real quick. the possibilities are 1) firefox has not actually shut down yet, or 2) the update will not fully take affect until restart.
[02:09] <itaylor57> !java | Chamunks shows how to get which ever java you want
[02:09] <allie83> hylian:thanks ..will do :)
[02:09] <myr> Chamunks, try the sun java instead of open
[02:09] <hylian> Chamunks, if your intention is to play minecraft, you will need sun's java plugin, not icedtea6 or openjdk.
[02:09] <myr> what he said ^^^^
[02:12] <Chamunks> I found a link thanks to ubbottu
[02:12] <jeremiah_> How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?
[02:12] <hylian> Chamunks, you should be able to get to the software sources section through either synaptic, or the ubuntu software center. you will have to activate a repository there.'
[02:12] <Chamunks> this should have theoretically fixed my issue http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[02:12] <zykotick9> hylian: sun-java is no longer in any ubuntu repository
[02:12] <Chamunks> it apparently provides a sun-java repo
[02:12] <Chamunks> http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en
[02:13] <hylian> zykotick9, wow. it was there in 11.04... thanks for the heads up!
[02:13] <zykotick9> hylian: it was in 11.10 for a while...
[02:13] <hylian> Chamunks, if you didn't see that post by zykotick9, i was wrong about the software sources way of doing this.
[02:14] <jeremiah_> How do i make sure that i installed ubuntu 12.04 correctly and has no problems?
[02:14] <Chamunks> the link that I posted was in the ubottu response and it works perfectly :)
[02:14] <Chamunks> java -version now echoes java version "1.6.0_31"
[02:14] <itaylor57> Chamunks, good for you
[02:15] <hylian> Chamunks, thanks for the info. yeah, that deb package solution of there's should work like a charm, or did you use te binary files?
[02:15] <Chamunks> thanks #ubuntu you always save my arse in a pinch.
[02:15] <Chamunks> I just added the repo
[02:15] <hylian> Chamunks, cool beans!
[02:15] <Chamunks> from duinsoft.nl
[02:15] <Chamunks> its more uptodate than the linux mint repos
[02:17] <myr> jeremiah_, try running it?
[02:18] <jeremiah_> myr, duh i meant hdd errors or other errors. i have installed it three times, three disks, three different websites that i got it from and all have died for me at one point or anther
[02:19] <hylian> jeremiah_, are you using cd, or usb key?
[02:19] <myr> jeremiah_,  did you check the md5sum of the download?
[02:19] <jeremiah_> hylian, when i installed it?cd.
[02:19] <jeremiah_> myr, no
[02:20] <dr_willis> useing usb. makes things easier i find.
[02:20] <hylian> jeremiah_, what are the specs on that computer? how new/old is it?
[02:20] <bobweaver> hello there does anyone know if there is a --force-yes or --yes -y like in sudo apt-get -y install cowsay   so that it does not ask for the Y and just installs But I am looking for something like that with aptitude . Any ideas
[02:21] <dr_willis> i have had optical drives go semi bad on me also. wouldent read some disks at the ends.
[02:21] <jeremiah_> hylian, duel core 2.2 ghz intel processors 4gb ram
[02:21] <hylian> jeremiah_, so resources are not an issue here...
[02:21] <jeremiah_> hylian, hd compaq 6910p
[02:22] <zykotick9> bobweaver: "man aptitude" then "/" "yes" should show -y --assume-yes
[02:22] <Laiam> any idea why the brightness adjuster is broken in KDE on ubuntu?
[02:22] <jeremiah_> hylian, nope.
[02:22] <bobweaver> thanks zykotick9  !
[02:23] <hylian> I am thinking this might be a cd read error. even if the cd is burnt perfectly, the reading during install can be a problem. I know windows has the same issue. Is there any way you could try this with a usb stick? that's what I use for installing ubuntu on my machines.
[02:23] <bobweaver> zykotick9,  I did not know that you could do that in man pages kinda like wth less very cool thansk !
[02:23] <zykotick9> bobweaver: glad to help
[02:24] <zykotick9> bobweaver: it's "like vi" really ;)
[02:24] <jonathanellis> I have installed chromium-browser 17.0.963.83 (Developer Build 127885 Linux) Ubuntu 11.10 and it crashes randomly, sometimes as soon as I go to almost any website. I had a similar problem with google chrome, recently and I was advised to use chromium instead. Any thoughts, please?
[02:25] <jeremiah_> hylian,  i think something is wrong because everything just crashed for me....
[02:25] <hylian> jeremiah_, the other option, and this would be just to test the cd read error theory, would be to install a very small version of linux suxh as slitaz. (don't do this if your gonna use this machine for dual boot with windows, ubuntu is designed for this, slitaz is not.)
[02:26] <jeremiah_> hylian, no duel booting, so i find it in software cener or what?
[02:26] <hylian> jeremiah_, you where running ubuntu or windows, and it had an error? where you running the os from the hard drive?
[02:27] <Jordan_U> jeremiah_: What type of freeze?
[02:27] <jeremiah_> hylian, only have ubuntu, and it is on my hdd
[02:27] <philip__> jonathanellis: there was a problem with the latest build of chromium that arrived yesterday. you can try to launch through terminal to see what's going on.
[02:28] <jeremiah_> jordan, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves
[02:28] <hylian> jeremiah_, did you see Jordan_U's question? how exactly did it freeze?
[02:28] <jeremiah_> hylian, like i can't click on any thing but the courser still moves
[02:28] <totesmuhgoats> what is the difference between vim.basic and vim.tiny?
[02:28] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: vim-tiny = vi
[02:29] <hylian> Jordan_U, any suggestions? I am thinking a possible hard drive malfunction...
[02:29] <totesmuhgoats> i guess vim.basic is what i want then
[02:29] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: if you like arrow keys, probably ;)
[02:29] <jeremiah_> hylian, forgot to mention, three different hdds
[02:30] <jeremiah_> hylian, all new.
[02:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, can you type control alt and f1? and then log in?
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: seems to use the jhjkl fine
[02:30] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: but i'm not really sure what vim.basic is... i always install "vim" as my first order of businesss on a new install
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> hjkl even
[02:30] <jeremiah_> hylian, what?
[02:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, WAIT,
[02:30] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: i have vim installed, but when i run crontab -e it isn't one of the options
[02:31] <totesmuhgoats> also, its just crontab so. eh
[02:31] <totesmuhgoats> hmm, looks like i might have uninstalled vim when i removed kde
[02:32] <hylian> jeremiah_, control alt f1 will get you "tty mode 1" but to get back to regular screen, you need to type control alt f7. remember that. now, if you can go to control alt f1, then log in, and then go back to control alt f7, and tell me if it logged you in, and how fast..
[02:32] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok.
[02:32] <myhero> i m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?
[02:33] <myhero> any1 help
[02:33] <myhero> i m installing ubuntu alongside win7....now its asking for which partition to install to....how to select partition n how to format it n with which file system ?
[02:33] <dr_willis> myhero:  you are doing a normal install via booting the cd?
[02:33] <Laiam> myhero: did you leave free space after windows 7 on your drive? if you did then when installing you'll probably have to manually create your partitions
[02:33] <myhero> yes but with usb stick
[02:34] <Laiam> myhero: what version of ubuntu the latest?
[02:34] <myhero> oneiric
[02:34] <zykotick9> Laiam: 11.10 is latest release, 12.04 is in beta
[02:34] <myhero> i installed win 7 in c: drive now i want to install ubuntu into d: drive
[02:34] <scottj> is there a user dir to put foo.desktop files so that I can associate commands of my choosing w/ mimetypes in xdg-open?
[02:34] <Laiam> myhero: ok you'll have to select the advanced or custom option for partitionin
[02:35] <dr_willis> myhero:  you have an empty d drive?
[02:35] <Laiam> zykotick9: some people don't like unity so much that they still install the older versions like 9.10
[02:35] <myhero> no it has old win 7 os....i want to install it before installing ubuntu to it
[02:35] <Laiam> myhero: did you create that partion using win 7?
[02:35] <hylian> Laiam, or they are like me and install gnome or xfce4.
[02:36] <zykotick9> Laiam: sorry, thought YOU where asking the question, not asking someone that question :|  my bad
[02:36] <myhero> it was old partiton
[02:36] <Laiam> hylian: true
[02:36] <Jordan_U> myhero: Follow the directions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[02:36] <itaylor57> i have grown fond of xfce4
[02:36] <myhero> i choose to install ubuntu alongside windows then deleted the d: drive partition
[02:37] <Laiam> myhero: you'll have to manually create the root partion and swap partition (anyone standard swap partion size usually i just do a gig but i think its supposed to be about the same as the amount of memory you have)
[02:37] <hylian> itaylor57, gnome 3 in classic mode is now decent again. that's what i use. xfce4 is awesome though.
[02:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, it shut my lappy of, turned it back on booted for 2-3 seconds and then shut off. repeated 20 times.
[02:38] <myhero> i didnt get what u r trying 2 say
[02:38] <Laiam> I've grown fonder of kde
[02:38] <zykotick9> Laiam: if you want to use hibernate, then swap needs to be slightly larger then physical RAM
[02:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, whwn you went into tty mode? how very strange...
[02:38] <bazhang> myhero, use real words please
[02:38] <Laiam> that explains it... I never hibernate...
[02:38] <myhero> yea
[02:38] <Laiam> myhero what screen of the install are you on right now?
[02:39] <myhero> installation type
[02:40] <Jordan_U> myhero: Why did you delete any partition?
[02:40] <myhero> installation type then install ubuntu alongside windows 7 then choose partition
[02:40] <philip__> guys what is a good irc client to be used especially here? chatzilla doesn't offer that much.
[02:40] <myhero> i wanted to install ubuntu to that partition thasty
[02:41] <hylian> jeremiah_, i don't know what to say. I can be honest in telling you that I have never heard of this before. I am not certain what to try next. it's definetely either hardweare or software based... i would try slitaz just to see if you have some issue with linux in general. atleast you would have a direction you could go. slitaz.org. it's a 30 mb iso. because it's small, it;s fast. and then if it works for you, then you atleast know it's not hardware, and can
[02:41] <hylian>  go from there.
[02:41] <zykotick9> philip__: xchat is popular GUI client, irssi popular CLI client
[02:41] <Jordan_U> myhero: What used to be on that partition? Ubuntu's installer will create space for its partitions automatically, doing so before hand just makes things more complicated.
[02:41] <myhero> why deleteing partition is wrong ?
[02:42] <philip__> zykotick9: thanks. i'll go fo xchat.
[02:42] <jeremiah_> hylian, it did it again. i need help!!
[02:42] <Laiam> myhero: he's just trying to figure out why it was necessary for you
[02:42] <ev316> The sd card in my phone is full. I have it plugged in and can browse the files. I want to list to folders by actuall size so I can start at the top for clearing stuff out and making room on the card. When I sort by size in the browser it sorts folders by how many folders are in the folder. kinda pointless IMHO. windows has windirstat, which would work if i could find a linux alternative.  Thanks fo the help
[02:42] <myhero> see i had xp n win7 dual boot then today i installed win7 and in the other partition i want to install ubuntu so i deleted the old win7 d: drive partition
[02:43] <hylian> jeremiah_, download slitaz from slitaz.org. install that, and see if it crashes. that will answer if it's hardware or software
[02:43] <Laiam> Jordan_U: i'm assuming that myhero deleted a partition that he made while in windows 7
[02:43] <jeremiah_> hylian, it kept bringing up the do i want to shutdown page thing and then shut off and did it all over like the first time
[02:43] <Laiam> ok so you currently have 1 windows partition and some empty space
[02:43] <hylian> jeremiah_, sounds like maybe a stuck power button
[02:43] <myhero> coz when i came to choose partition then i wanted to ormat it but the formnat box tick option was not ticking so i deleted it
[02:43] <dmogle> ev316: Ubuntu has the graphical Disk Storage Analyzer or du on the command line.
[02:44] <jamping> where chat on russian piople?
[02:44] <dmogle> ev316: Er, Disk Usage Analyzer
[02:44] <ev316> dmogle: cool, i will look into du. never thought of 'disk storage analyzer' syntax
[02:44] <Laiam> myhero: is this the screen you are on? http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1312973605.png
[02:44] <jeremiah_> hylian, which do i download,slitaz 3.0 or slitaz 4.0 rc3?
[02:44] <myhero> i hve freshly installed win 7 partition n a 2nd deleted partition n 2more after that
[02:44] <hylian> anyone, jeremiah_ has some very strange errors, and i have to admit, this is a new one for me. please help him if you can
[02:44] <myhero> all in all 4 partitions
[02:44] <hylian> jeremiah_, 3 is stable.so i would choose that
[02:45] <myhero> all plz brb hve 2 use bathroom...srry 4 shorthand
[02:49] <hylian> jeremiah_, any issues? it's a very unique operating system. i use it simply for problem solving, cause it's small.
[02:49] <jeremiah_> hylian, just fin downloading, hang on.
[02:49] <funnyhaha> i just got 11.10 and i want to know can i remove that bar on the left side of my screen
[02:49] <jeremiah_> hylian, i have it downloaded, now what?
[02:50] <funnyhaha> i think its not that good
[02:50] <hylian> jeremiah_, you will either have to burn it to cd or use a program like untetbootin to put it on a usb stick.
[02:50] <funnyhaha> there is a menu bar on the left side of the screen
[02:50] <ev316> dmogle: du is pretty nice, but after reading the man page i am not seeing a way to sort based on a variable. This has to be an option.
[02:51] <jeremiah_> hylian, then wait while i burn it....
[02:51] <myhero> @liam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition
[02:51] <dmogle> ev316: not sure if du sorts on its own, I just pipe it to sort.  I usualy do du --max-depth=1|sort -n
[02:52] <myhero> laiam......
[02:52] <myhero> @laiam the link u posted i m after that....i choose install alongside win7 then advanced partitioning tools n then format tick box was not taking ticks so i deleted the d: drive paartition
[02:52] <myhero> laiam
[02:53] <Laiam> myhero: ok you'll have to create the swap partion and root partition manually then
[02:53] <myhero> how ? n what about the partition i just deleted ?
[02:53] <myhero> any problems for that deleted partition
[02:53] <ev316> dmogle: thanks, i often forget about the |
[02:54] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok burned. now what?
[02:54] <myhero> laiam
[02:54] <Laiam> myhero: that partition is gone if you had data on it there are tools that can recover it but i'm assuming you meant to overwrite it with ubuntu anyway so
[02:55] <myhero> yes
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: please hold i'm pulling up the interface for custom partitioning from install
[02:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, for now, we just want to boot to slitaz, and let it run. if it runs without a hiccup, then if your feeling brave, install it to the hard drive, and then if it still runs, we know it is ubuntu software based, like a driver...
[02:55] <myhero> ok
[02:55] <myhero> i can also go back n choose option to do something else....
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: your on a screen similar to this yes?
[02:55] <jeremiah_> hylian, so reboot with disk?
[02:55] <hylian> yes
[02:55] <myhero> which ?
[02:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, yes
[02:55] <Laiam> myhero: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall2-600x413.png
[02:56] <jeremiah_> hylian, do i have to install it and if i do, what happens?
[02:56] <Laiam> myhero: how much memory does your system have?
[02:57] <myhero> laiam yes similar to that
[02:57] <Laiam> myhero: select the freespace from the list and click the add button
[02:57] <myhero> currently 3gb ram n 320gb hdd
[02:57] <hylian> jeremiah_, you don't have to, but if you do, and it doesn't have acrash fits like ubuntu has been having, then we would atleast begin from a position of kn nowledge, that being that our culprit is somewhere in ubuntu itself. that's all this test gives us, it's a lot of work,but gives you a direction to work from.
[02:58] <jeremiah_> hylian, ok. see you after i try it out/\.
[02:58] <Laiam> myhero: after clicking the add button something like this should pop uphttp://www.linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Uinstall4-600x296.png
[02:58] <hylian> jeremiah_, also, if you do install it, you will want ot install xchat, freenode here, and join #ubuntu
[02:59] <darbe> hi
[02:59] <darbe> http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp4/dw.com.com/redir/cnet_2012-04-02-184413.2500.mp4?destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fcnet.co%2FHh8W77%3FADPARAMS%3DBRAND%3D47%7CSITE%3D53%7CSP%3D181%7CPOS%3D100%7CNCAT%3D13482%3A31633%3A&ontId=14106&siteId=145&edId=3&asid=50122567&pid=&astId=31&ltype=dl_dlnow
[02:59] <FloodBot1> darbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <darbe> E: debsums: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[02:59] <myhero> http://pzy.be/v/2/Screenshot+at+2012-04-05+082631.png
[02:59] <darbe> how can I fix it?
[02:59] <philip__> what happened with jeremiah? just got back.
[02:59] <jeremiah_> hylian, problem, it didn't boot.
[03:00] <jeremiah_> the disk
[03:00] <myhero> yes
[03:00] <hylian> philip__, he might be a while. i had him burn slitaz. i want to see if we can pinpoint this to hardware or software, so he is trying a different distro for a bit. then he will get back to us. then hopefully we will atleast have a direction to go with him.
[03:00] <hylian> jeremiah_, hmm. what did it do? this could be our problem right here.
[03:01] <myhero> laiam...yes now what after add screen
[03:01] <philip__> ok hylian thanks.
[03:01] <Laiam> myhero: you will want to make your main root partition slightly smaller than the available size so that you can include a swap partition for hibernation. take the amount of available space and minus about 3.5 gigs from it (3584 MB) it should be EXT4 for the type and put a slash for the mount point " / " no quotes
[03:01] <jeremiah_> hylian, it is set to boot off of disk first, but completly ignored it.
[03:01] <myhero> k
[03:02] <Agent_bob> what's the point of hibernate ?    i've never used it.
[03:02] <Laiam> after you've created that partition the additional space can be used for the swap
[03:02] <myhero> but laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed
[03:02] <Laiam> agent_bob: hibernate is mostly useful for mobile platforms
[03:02] <hylian> jeremiah_, well. then either the cd didn't burn right, or we have a problem with that cd burner, or it was a bad cd... i think i see a common theme now. I could be off base here, this is just a guess. but i think your problem might be in the cd's or drive itself.
[03:03] <Laiam> myhero: do you have both root partion and swap partion now?
[03:03] <myhero> but laiam should i continue with install ubuntu alongside win7 or go back n choose do something else then proceed
[03:03] <jeremiah_> hylian, new cdburner new cd and it burned correctly. i can see the disk, but it won't boot.
[03:03] <Laiam> myhero: once they're created you should be able to continue with the install alongside win7
[03:04] <philip__> and how does the drive affects pwoering that much?
[03:04] <hylian> philip__, what do you think about jeremiah_ 's issue? any insight would be greatfully accepted.
[03:04] <Zal> jeremiah_, is your BIOS set up properly to boot from cd?
[03:04] <jeremiah_> Zal, yes.
[03:05] <celthunder> hylian: whats the issue sorry
[03:05] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Sometimes I have to remove a hard drive from the boot list to convince the BIOS to boot from a disk.
[03:05] <jeremiah_> i will urn again and try again
[03:05] <Zal> jeremiah_, bad burn then, is the only thing I can think of
[03:05] <jeremiah_> iwill burn again
[03:06] <celthunder> jeremiah_: are your jumpers set to master in the cd drive..also use f12 or whatever
[03:06] <Laiam> Agent_bob: hibernation is mostly useful for saving the state of the computer when no power is available to allow for easy resumption of work once power is returned. this is mostly useful on mobile platforms. but can be useful on desktops as well depending on the person.
[03:06] <hylian> celthunder, the issue, to be honest, is we don't know what the issue is. jeremiah_ 's version of ubuntu is having all sorts of very unique issues, and the machine refuses to boot from a cd.
[03:06] <jeremiah_> celthunder, what????
[03:06] <celthunder> hylian: saw the last part...
[03:06] <dmogle> wow, haven't had to mess with drive jumpers in ages...
[03:06] <philip__> does he have something installed at this point?
[03:07] <celthunder> jeremiah_: for the boot from cd bit.
[03:07] <Laiam> yeah... sata kinda just kills the jumper issue
[03:07] <jeremiah_> celthunder, i don't know.
[03:07] <celthunder> dmogle: they still matter if its ide..
[03:08] <celthunder> sorry joined late didnt see that he was on sata
[03:08] <tottiq> hey, anyone knows if there is a picasa version for linux? i cannot seem to find one on google's servers
[03:08] <Agent_bob> laiam   ok       i guess if power failed or if one needed to relocate and resume   ....   makes sense
[03:08] <hylian> philip__, yes, ubuntu, i think 11.10. it has been having some very strange errors/
[03:08] <jeremiah_> if physical jumpers, no. it is a laptop
[03:08] <philip__> jeremiah do you have any version installed or just trying to boot from cd?
[03:08] <myhero> laiam i created that root partition now how to create swap partition...?
[03:08] <celthunder> hylian: ok can you pastebin the convo a bit back with the other issues
[03:09] <celthunder> myhero: mkswap
[03:09] <jeremiah_> hylian, i think it worked this time. on burning.
[03:09] <jeremiah_> i will try again!
[03:09] <Laiam> myhero: did you change the size of the root so you have additional free space at the end before creating it? if so then select that free space and click the add button again change the type to swap and click go
[03:09] <myhero> yes
[03:10] <Laiam> celthunder: he's using the gui install
[03:10] <myhero> what mount point ?
[03:10] <Laiam> myhero: it won't need one
[03:10] <precise-php> hi, trying to build precise php5 package on lucid. this script works on 32bit - http://pastebin.com/hxvbu5NG
[03:10] <myhero> k
[03:10] <precise-php> but fails on 64bit
[03:10] <Agent_bob> myhero   "/"
[03:10] <Laiam> myhero: once you change the type to swap it will disable that field
[03:11] <sckauter> finally!
[03:11] <hacktheplanet996> hai
[03:11] <precise-php> because lucid's dpkg-architecture doesn't know about DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH
[03:11] <sckauter> fixed my problem with resolution lol
[03:11] <myhero> what about other options primary or logocal n begining or end ?
[03:11] <myhero> agent is saying "/"....
[03:11] <hylian> philip__, celthunder the machine turned on and off in rapid succesession a few times. what I knnow: ubuntu is installed. it is acting up. it keeps prompting him if he really wants to shut down now. i thought maybe it was a stuck power button. what he is doing right now is using a very slim and limmited distro called slitaz, just to see if the problems persist. he has a new cd burner. that's about all i know. also the ubuntu install is very fresh.
[03:12] <Laiam> myhero: logical and leave the other at whatever its set at also he probably thought you where asking for the root mountpoint which we just finished creating
[03:12] <sckauter> next step "vpn config" :)
[03:12] <precise-php> wondering what is the best way to go here? can i fake the value of DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH ? or should i start with the version of debian/rules from lucid php5 package?
[03:12] <Agent_bob> myhero    "/"  is always the "mountpoint" of the "root" partition.    i thought that was the one you were asking about.
[03:12] <myhero> ok...what does this "/" signiies ?
[03:12] <celthunder> hylian: does it prompt when plgged in
[03:13] <myhero> the directory
[03:13] <celthunder> hylian: could be a battery issue
[03:13] <myhero> root directory ?
[03:13] <jeremiah_> hylian, didn't work.
[03:13] <Agent_bob> yes
[03:13] <myhero> kk
[03:13] <hylian> celthunder, i don't know. we will have to find out when he comes back,.
[03:13] <hylian> jeremiah_, well, it was worth a shot.
[03:13] <celthunder> jeremiah_: is it plugged in when prmpting for shutdown
[03:13] <jeremiah_> hyl iguess
[03:13] <Laiam> myhero: / is the top its the main level..
[03:13] <myhero> why all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?
[03:14] <myhero> ok
[03:14] <Agent_bob> laiam   it's the "root"  of the filesystem
[03:14] <jeremiah_> celthunder, yes. the batteries died a long time ago and am not paying 70$
[03:14] <myhero> does making swap partition is necessary or can i avoid it ?
[03:14] <Laiam> Agent_bob & myhero: ergo why we call it the root directory
[03:14] <celthunder> jeremiah_: turn off and disable any acpi and whatever
[03:15] <hylian> jeremiah_, do you have a usb stick?
[03:15] <myhero> i dont know...
[03:15] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?????
[03:15] <myhero> m a noob
[03:15] <Laiam> myhero: in windows the  C: drive is the /
[03:15] <jeremiah_> hylian, yes
[03:15] <myhero> yes
[03:15] <celthunder> hylian: jeremiah_ that will hopefully stop the shutdown prompts
[03:15] <myhero> means m a noob for ubuntu
[03:15] <Agent_bob> laiam  doesn't have to be.  but in linux / has to be the root
[03:15] <hacktheplanet996> im 12 what is this
[03:15] <jeremiah_> celthunder, how is that done?!
[03:15] <Laiam> myhero: if you want to use hibernation yes its necessary also the swap partition can in a pinch be used by the computer as additional memory for applications that aren't being used but are open
[03:15] <hylian> jeremiah_, celthunder means in your bios.
[03:16] <celthunder> Agent_bob: no it doesnt
[03:16] <jeremiah_> hylian, so do what in the bios?
[03:16] <myhero> but is it necessary or can i orget about it ?
[03:16] <celthunder> hylian: i meant in kernel/gui/daemons but yeah that too
[03:16] <Agent_bob> celthunder    chroot'd it's still the root   so to speek   but the rest is symantic.   so i'll drop it.
[03:17] <hylian> jeremiah_, options for controlling the acpi, which is the power control unit. celthunder is thinking this is a problem based off of a misread of your now defunct battery.
[03:17] <Laiam> Agent_bob: true but windows convention generally puts c: as its root although they also split each drive off though so that generally speaking each drive has its own root level
[03:17] <Laiam> myhero: its necessary.
[03:17] <jeremiah_> hylian, don't think i have an option in the bios like that....'
[03:17] <Agent_bob> laiam   i
[03:17] <hylian> celthunder, sorry man. i think i am getting more in the way than helping. wish i could jump through xchat and help him mono e mono.
[03:18] <hylian> jeremiah_, you may not.
[03:18] <celthunder> hylian: also if it is a dell there are a lot of known issues with power and there batteries
[03:18] <jeremiah_> celthunder, it is hp
[03:19] <celthunder> hylian: lol i feel like i am not either so meh try single user mode for a bit with no daemons etc
[03:19] <Laiam> for future reference: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:19] <celthunder> or none more than the really needed
[03:19] <celthunder> hylian: if it still halts/ powers down its either hw or his kernel at least
[03:19] <philip__> can't we chat the three of us with him for a while?
[03:20] <celthunder> philip__: ?
[03:20] <jeremiah_> celthunder, it stopped shutting down at the moment
[03:20] <Laiam> Agent_bob: did that last message have more to it?
[03:21] <celthunder> jeremiah_: ok in a different gui distro kernel etc what didi you change
[03:21] <Agent_bob> laiam   nay       just a concurance
[03:21] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?
[03:22] <hylian> celthunder, i had him go into tty1 mode (control alt f1) and thats when it had a fit. at the time, i simply wanted to see why it was so locked up. never got the chance, because it forced him to shut down. just fyi.
[03:22] <Laiam> Agent_bob: I would add that windows supports mounting drives as directories within existing drives so that in a small way you could end up with C:\ being the root filesystem like linux and every other drive mounting under a folder in C:\
[03:22] <myhero> laiam n agent....m going for install....is there anything more to be done ?
[03:22] <celthunder> hylian: ok did he still have a gui running stuff on tty7 or whatever
[03:22] <Laiam> myhero: afaik that should be all your win7 partition still exists and shouldn't be touched so it should be all good
[03:23] <celthunder> jeremiah_: ? what
[03:23] <myhero> ok
[03:23] <hylian> celthunder, a mouse poiter, but no control.
[03:23] <myhero> thnx
[03:23] <jeremiah_> celthunder, didn't understand what you meant
[03:23] <celthunder> hylian: so...xterm ?
[03:23] <myhero> 1 more ques. - why all here dont use shorthand or short msgs so as to save time in typing n less mess in window ?
[03:23] <celthunder> xterm shouldnt have mattered
[03:24] <myhero> jello u there ?
[03:24] <hylian> celthunder, and we never got to the other distro, it won't boot the cd. he made 2 of them, still won't recognize them.
[03:24] <celthunder> myhero: because we dont want to
[03:24] <ratcheer> celthunder: +1
[03:24] <myhero> but y not...it'll save time in typing reading n less congstion in window....
[03:24] <myhero> anything specific ?
[03:24] <hylian> jeremiah_, what did you use to burn the iso? did you just burn the iso file to disc, or sis you have it burn the iso into a boot option through something like brasero?
[03:25] <celthunder> myhero: not all of us type 1 word per minute and can read fine
[03:25] <Agent_bob> myhero   because in short  THE various forms of short hand have to be explained so often that it doesn't make it any shorter
[03:25] <jeremiah_> hylian, used brasero
[03:25] <myhero> yea thats rght but simple n common 1es can b used...
[03:25] <Fallout301> celthunder & Agent_bob perfect
[03:26] <celthunder> hylian: he has a usb why is he using a cd dd the iso over and be done with it
[03:26] <dmogle> jeremiah_: did you actually get into the a boot menu and choose the disk drive, or did you just let it boot on its own?
[03:26] <philip__> myhero: do you really want to partition your system with short messages...?
[03:26] <Agent_bob> myhero also,  it looks kind of juvinal, to say the least.
[03:26] <hylian> jeremiah_, ok, and when you put the cd into the tray, do you still see just the iso, or is it a bunch of folders and files?
[03:26] <myhero> haha....no just asked...
[03:26] <jeremiah_> hylian, bunch of folders and files
[03:26] <Laiam> myhero: I can't speak for the rest of them but for me the chat abbreviations make it more difficult for some older people I know to understand what i'm trying to communicate, also chat abbreviations leave the impression of the user being to lazy to type out the full word. additionally since this isn't twitter there is not a character limit. (much_
[03:26] <philip__> myhero: :P
[03:27] <Fallout301> Bingo Laiam
[03:27] <hylian> celthunder, good question. for some reason he burnt the iso to  cd. i assumed he didn't have a usb till later.
[03:27] <nathwill> Laiam: not to be pedantic (but because it's funny); "too lazy"
[03:27] <Fallout301> I would listen to advice from someone who actually takes the time to type stuff out than do shortened stuff
[03:27] <hylian> jeremiah_, thanks. that means you burnt it right.
[03:27] <Fallout301> thats just me personally tho
[03:28] <jeremiah_> hylian, figured
[03:28] <myhero> haha.....n laiam i agree but it sometimes it increases the chat n typing speed to much degree...
[03:28] <hylian> celthunder, yeah, i would use unetbootin myself, but, well, you kn ow.
[03:28] <hylian> jeremiah_, how big is your usb stick
[03:28] <Fallout301> I don't know, personally, especially with tech support, it's just better to type it all out
[03:29] <jeremiah_> hylian, 4gb
[03:29] <celthunder> hylian: ew lol anywa uhm ok so he has an install why are we not just fixing it he said he got the power issue fixed..what else was happening
[03:29] <Laiam> nathwill: heh... english is not my favorite language even  if i'm a native speaker there are too many words that share the similar spellings or pronunciations.
[03:29] <Agent_bob> myhero there are "windows" channels here if you really want 2 u-z sh
[03:29] <hylian> celthunder, it wasn't fixed till just now.
[03:29] <myhero> noo i want to get into linux
[03:29] <nathwill> laiam: agreed.
[03:29] <hylian> celthunder, i would rather he just use the installed dsitro as well.
[03:29] <myhero> had much o windows
[03:29] <myhero> *of
[03:30] <celthunder> hylian: ok...lol so whats the issue other than power
[03:30] <Fallout301> well myhero, learn to type stuff out then, its the only way that I have found for people to take you seriously when you ask for support
[03:30] <hylian> jeremiah_, ok, so how are things running now, what are our current issues with it? you said it stopped shutting down on you...
[03:30] <anonymous> rinsler
[03:31] <jeremiah_> hylian, thats about it. what i am worried about that itll freeze, then later on die and i loose everything.
[03:31] <hylian> celthunder, it does take a puke on him from time to time.
[03:31] <celthunder> hylian: as in kernel panic or as in?
[03:31] <Laiam> myhero: there are numerous typing skill building programs available for both windows and linux, that can help you increase your typing speed to make the time it takes to spell everything out less of an issue.
[03:32] <Agent_bob> memory leak ?       runaway process ?
[03:32] <celthunder> Laiam: dvorak
[03:32] <Laiam> also, i've found the bottleneck to my messages isn't generally my typing speed but the speed at which I word things in my head.
[03:32] <celthunder> Agent_bob: lol yeah
[03:32] <hylian> celthunder, i am assuming, but as i told you, i never got that far, on tty1 it had a massive fit, flashed "are you sure you want to shut down" about 20 times, and then died on him.
[03:32] <jeremiah_> hylian, need help for xchat at the moment. hacktheplanet996 is sending me som bad stuff. can i kick him or something??
[03:33] <celthunder> jeremiah_: /ignore
[03:33] <jeremiah_> cel
[03:33] <Laiam> celthunder: there have been no studies since dvorak himself that have conclusively proven an advantage for using dvorak over qwerty
[03:33] <myhero> yea fall...i agree typing gud is necessary...but anyways i was pointing in diff direction n this irc seems to be in diff.
[03:33] <jeremiah_> celthunder, with him sending me porn, it is hard to.
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> ty he's lieing . i called him a noob because he was rude to me
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> porn? your a liar, please provide a screenshot for any moderators
[03:33] <Agent_bob> jeremiah  no.  that's the command to stop it.    /ignore blah
[03:33] <hacktheplanet996> i'm not going to get into an arugment, you're iggied
[03:34] <hylian> jeremiah_, type /ignore hacktheplanet996
[03:34] <jeremiah_> hacktheplanet996, and you sent me dinousrs giving blowjobs!
[03:34] <jeremiah_> hylian, thankyou.
[03:34] <celthunder> Laiam: i type about the same in each but it did take less time to learn dvorak
[03:35] <Laiam> myhero: your last message is one that requires further examination and/or rewording, (I don't get what your saying) as such I point it out as an example of how abbreviations can reduce the comprehension of your communication.
[03:35] <Fallout301> myhero I don't really get what you mean there either
[03:36] <myhero> yes u r rght
[03:36] <celthunder> i understood it
[03:36] <Fallout301> ah
[03:36] <myhero> c cell has gud understanding
[03:36] <hylian> jeremiah_, as for losing everything, we don't think there is anything wrong with your hard drive, so you shouldn't lose any documents. if this continues, you may have to eventually re-install ubuntu. this might be a heat issue. it might be a acpi battery thing, it might be a ubuntu bug that has a problem with your hardware. i wish i could be more specific than that for you.
[03:36] <Laiam> myhero: its more the second half of the message
[03:36] <Fallout301> Laiam: exactly
[03:37] <myhero> i'll not say my typing speed is very fast but its kind of ok so i hve no issues with typing speed ...
[03:37] <Fallout301> i understood the beginning, but that bit about the IRC being different, i didn't get
[03:37] <celthunder> myhero: i am indiffrent your shitty typing is not my problem
[03:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, it has died and i couldn't restore it lots of people helped and none could help restore it.
[03:37] <celthunder> Fallout301: he meant indifferent
[03:37] <myhero> means u all ppl here on this channel
[03:37] <Fallout301> ah ok thanks for clearing that up
[03:37] <myhero> hey cell mind ur language
[03:37] <jeremiah_> hylian, and i just installed ubuntu
[03:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, by restore it, you mean you couldn't run the cd again? i guess i am little hazy on how  you where restoring it... with backups?
[03:38] <celthunder> jeremiah_: what died
[03:38] <dmogle> jeremiah_: have you had another linux distro on this machine?
[03:38] <celthunder> like it didnt power on? boot ?
[03:38] <myhero> anyways thanks all ppl who supported....
[03:38] <hylian> jeremiah_, are you referring to restoring it with windows?
[03:38] <jeremiah_> hylian, no i couldn't take anything off because ubuntu stopped working.
[03:39] <jeremiah_> dmogle, yes, mint. it also died.
[03:39] <dmogle> jeremiah_: same problem or a different one?
[03:39] <celthunder> jeremiah_: WHAT died
[03:39] <myhero> jeremiah... i had similar issues....ubuntu live frm usb got frozen many times
[03:39] <celthunder> hylian: bad hdd from the it dies part....
[03:39] <jeremiah_> dmogle, same lappy. same prob.
[03:39] <myhero> i had to reboot n everything got lost
[03:39] <hylian> celthunder, he said linux mint gave himn the sam issues
[03:40] <Laiam> just waiting for april 26th
[03:40] <celthunder> hylian: but what dies his hdd? his partitions?
[03:40] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ubuntu died for me 3 times and lost lots of info don't want it again to happen
[03:40] <celthunder> hylian: power?
[03:40] <hylian> celthunder, i was actually thinking that too. philip__ thought it wasn't a hard drive issue.
[03:40] <Fallout301> now last time i used ubuntu was 10.10, but it was the.. I don't know I was told compositing when I talked about it elsewhere, but when I did a dual boot with it, youtube videos displayed on the black on my background, which was a bit irritating, so that was my only dealbreaker, could it just have been a bad driver?
[03:40] <philip__> myhero: weren't lost. you didn't seek with the right tool.
[03:40] <unkr> can anyone tell me the software which i can use to transfer file from WINDOW to ubuntu ??
[03:40] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, try this: open a terminal (ctl + alt + t) and cd to /proc/acpi
[03:40] <dmogle> jeremiah_: paste an ls from there into paste.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <hylian> celthunder, good question. it sounds like something gets corrupted, maybe his master boot sector?
[03:41] <celthunder> unkr: mount scp ftp samba unison...
[03:41] <celthunder> need me to keep going
[03:41] <celthunder> cp
[03:41] <Laiam> myhero: still installing?
[03:41] <myhero> see the thing was that my win7 got crashed so i took out hdd for recovery so i was left with no other choice other then live ubuntu
[03:41] <celthunder> hylian: well if he wont tell us what dies....
[03:41] <jeremiah_> dmogle, bash: /proc/acpi: Is a directory
[03:41] <jeremiah_> thats what i got.
[03:41] <unkr> celthunder, thnx:)
[03:42] <hylian> celthunder, i think he doesn't know./
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: type: cd /proc/acpi
[03:42] <celthunder> hylian: then describe it better
[03:42] <hylian> jeremiah_, so your hard drive died?
[03:42] <myhero> laiam srry to press install button
[03:42] <myhero> proceeding now
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then type: ls
[03:42] <dmogle> jeremiah_: paste the output of ls
[03:42] <jeremiah_> hylian, no ubuntu did.
[03:42] <philip__> jeremiah: tools like testdisk can recover data from a hard disk which barely even spins. don't worry about that. That said, you should always back up.
[03:43] <Laiam> myhero: you should consider investing in a backup drive for your windows files that way when it crashes you can just reinstall windows and pull your files from your backup
[03:43] <myhero> i mean srry i forgot to press install button
[03:43] <jeremiah_> dmogle, ac_adapter  battery  button  event  wakeup
[03:43] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, type: cd button.  Then paste ls again
[03:43] <Laiam> myhero: I figured it out, the "forgot" sort of implied itself since you had forgotten it aswell
[03:44] <Fallout301> Laiam, that is a very good point... I should see about a backup drive myself
[03:44] <myhero> i have a 1TB backup drive but that day i was cleaning my backup drive n suddenly win7 got crashed so i was let with nothing
[03:44] <myhero> *left
[03:44] <myhero> yeah
[03:44] <hylian> jeremiah_, so exactly what did ubuntu do when it died?
[03:44] <jeremiah_> dmogle, Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos
[03:44] <jeremiah_> hylian, it froze time to time, then never booted again
[03:45] <Laiam> both w7 and ubuntu have partition restore utilities w7 has a few free ones but their hard to find
[03:45] <myhero> i was saying for shorthand so much but i hve seen a major problem with it for getting words missed inbetween...
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Hm, looks like you ended up in home.  Type: cd /proc/acpi/button
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Then type: ls
[03:45] <dmogle> jeremiah_: Then paste output
[03:45] <Fallout301> well myhero, you end up pulling key words for understanding when you use shorthand
[03:46] <Fallout301> I mean is it really that horrifying to type out your thought without shorthand?
[03:46] <jeremiah_> dmogle, lid
[03:46] <myhero> but laiam backup drive has a problem too...that it has to be connected everytime which will be like raid or nas...
[03:46] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, a couple more.  Type: cd lid
[03:46] <philip__> jeremiah: did you mess your partitions then?
[03:46] <myhero> n it will be wastage of power...
[03:46] <Laiam> yeah, theres a balance sometimes to the amount of words that are fully spelled compared to words that are abbreviated...
[03:46] <myhero> yea
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then ls again, you'll probably see LID0.  If so, type (case matters): cd LID0
[03:47] <jeremiah_> philip__, don't have any only one.
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: then type: cat state
[03:47] <dmogle> jeremiah_: and paste the output
[03:47] <Fallout301> myhero, another thing you can do is plug in the drive, back the shit up, then store the drive in a nice safe place
[03:47] <jeremiah_> dmogle, never got any of those C1ED
[03:48] <dmogle> jeremiah_: sorry, C1ED?
[03:48] <jeremiah_> state:      open
[03:48] <Laiam> for my laptop i actually went through the trouble of making a windows backup through windows itself so that i don't have to reconfigure drivers everytime
[03:48] <jeremiah_> dmogle, yes
[03:48] <myhero> yea but that too seems not very comortable thing or a back unless n until the backup is small
[03:48] <dmogle> jeremiah_: ok, well, that indicates it's not a failure in the lid sensor anyways
[03:48] <Fallout301> Laiam, sounds like fun, I perosnally would rather just redo the drivers, since I don't have much to install really
[03:48] <jeremiah_> dmogle, good....
[03:48] <myhero> *for....spare me or *f this keyboard f key is bad
[03:48] <celthunder> dmogle: he said he got the power issue fixed
[03:49] <myhero> *for
[03:49] <dmogle> celthunder: oh, guess I missed that...
[03:49] <Laiam> restoring from a windows backup is slightly faster than reinstalling all together for me
[03:49] <hylian> dmogle, i am thinking his need to force restart continously has damaged the master boot record.
[03:49] <Fallout301> Laiam, it probably is, but what is the size of it when it's done backing up?
[03:49] <myhero> yea
[03:49] <dmogle> hylian: would that explain the same problem on multiple distros?
[03:49] <celthunder> jeremiah_: when did it fleeze did you max the swap/ram also vmstat watch your io speed watching top as well might help
[03:50] <jeremiah_> celthunder, please no jiberish.
[03:50] <hylian> dmogle, it would explain why they eventually become inaccessable. as to what causes the freeze, i haven't a clue.
[03:50] <Laiam> about the same size as the amount of disk space taken up after getting everything configured for the base system itself before installing additional applications
[03:50] <myhero> if the backup is small then usb will b gud but i the size is larger then it has to be hdd...
[03:50] <Laiam> so like 6 gb
[03:50] <Fallout301> ah
[03:51] <celthunder> veras for the disk check s m a r t and e2fsck
[03:51] <jeremiah_> hylian, thats what i am ofraid of. freezing
[03:51] <philip__> jeremiah: altering partitions can lead to short freezes. also you can try to boot in to recovery mode, even now.
[03:51] <Fallout301> hmm, I don't know.. personally I'd just rather backup the documents, Win7 installs pretty quick for me
[03:51] <myhero> if u r working everyday then u need a connected drive....raid or nas
[03:51] <Fallout301> myhero: theres also Ubuntu One or Dropbox
[03:52] <jeremiah_> philip__, i never messed with partitions
[03:52] <myhero> yes but its not a gud option for bandidth limit a/c's n slow speeds
[03:52] <hylian> jeremiah_, for now, if your computer does happen to no longer boot from the hard drive, you can still gain access to things like music, pictures, documents and the like through a live cd like ubuntu. i do it all the time for customers. this isn't much help, but it is available. as long as your hard drive holds out.
[03:52] <Laiam> fallout301: its basically a heavily compressed version of the information on the disk which means any small files on the disk that take up a full cluster even though they only need a few bytes or kilobytes get compressed aswell thereby taking up less space. also some laptops are really annoying to try and reinstall drivers for
[03:53] <myhero> i hve always been thinking or a rght backup....
[03:53] <Fallout301> ah yes, so true so very true
[03:53] <jeremiah_> hylian, tried that. it doesn't even sense there is something installed on the hdd.
[03:53] <Fallout301> ugh I had a real fun time finding drivers for my touch pad on my laptop about a month ago
[03:53] <hylian> jeremiah_, that is very strange...
[03:53] <Laiam> so i figure since i have all the drivers and everything already setup (minus my applications and virus protection since backing that up with it is pointless) its easy to make a one time backuo
[03:54] <myhero> i hve tried usb external hdd....raid n even dropbox but every option has some or the other disadvantages which after some time make me to change backup option
[03:54] <Fallout301> true Laiam
[03:54] <Fallout301> I think I'm gonna do that lol
[03:55] <hylian> jeremiah_, so when you booted to ubuntu from the cd, and then looked for an extra drive in nautilus, it showed no other drives?
[03:55] <Fallout301> well myhero, personally dropbox works like a dream for me
[03:55] <myhero> laiam but when u work then ur old ackups becomes obsolete
[03:55] <gdoteof> half the time I boot up my computer the settings in 'mouse settings' aren't respected
[03:55] <myhero> its gud for small files n greater bandwith connections
[03:55] <Fallout301> myhero: he is only backing up all his drivers and basically the fresh system
[03:55] <Laiam> not really since its just the base install of windows without anything but the updates
[03:55] <philip__> let me make myself clear. for me back up is everything that can have you up and running in a couple of hours after a major system damage. That kind of back is only cloning to me.
[03:55] <myhero> yea
[03:56] <gdoteof> i think it might be literally half the time.  like one boot it works, next boot it doesn't work, and on and on
[03:56] <jeremiah_> hylian, yep.
[03:56] <Laiam> and its easy enough to update the backup from windows if needed
[03:56] <myhero> yea
[03:56] <Fallout301> so true
[03:56] <hylian> jeremiah_, i may have to eat my words. there might be damage to that hard drive. that's strange.
[03:57] <myhero> if you are geting backup reinstalled in couple of hours then it doesnt has any advantage in terms of time coz u can install fresh in that much time
[03:57] <Laiam> also i'm like 87% sure that backups store validation information so it doesn't need to be revalidated each time i restore but its been a while since i restored from backup so i forget
[03:57] <myhero> backup is or files backup only
[03:57] <jeremiah_> hylian, it has happened to three new hdds!!
[03:57] <myhero> *for...spare me for *F
[03:57] <Fallout301> I'm kinda nervous about it, but i think I'm gonna try another dive into Linux with a dual boot >_< I'm mostly just scared because I don't wanna screw up windows
[03:57] <philip__> hylian: that happens also when a system (install) is damaged.
[03:57] <Laiam> also since i'm mostly mobile my files are always on my portable disk which gets backed up to my main computer each night when i get home
[03:58] <Fallout301> nice
[03:58] <myhero> yea gud
[03:58] <myhero> i did hdd backup the hdd crashed...
[03:58] <Fallout301> my longest linux period had to be... oh I'd say about... 5 months, when my laptop decided to give me the finger and lock the old hard drive
[03:59] <hylian> jeremiah_, it could be either the hard drive eide or sata cords, ot could be the power unit frying out the hard drive, it could be the ports on the motherboard causeing an issue. and i could be wrong. but this is sounding more and more like a hard drive issue. it doesn't neccessarily mean the hard drive itself is bad.
[03:59] <Laiam> fallout301 right now i'm not even bothering with dual boot since i have a surplus of drives it seems I just cary both windows and ubuntu with me at all times on separate drives and swap them out as needed
[03:59] <myhero> i did dropbox backup then my connection bills when high n next i orgot my p/w
[03:59] <myhero> next i did did usb it fell into water n other got stolen
[03:59] <jeremiah_> hylian, .
[03:59] <myhero> so there is nothing sure shot
[03:59] <philip__> does he have system specs on pastebin?
[03:59] <celthunder> jeremiah_: did it recognize the drive in /dev or in dmesg
[04:00] <hylian> jeremiah_, or i could be totally off base.
[04:00] <myhero> backups r meant for soemthing bad n i bad happens then nothing helps at the moment
[04:00] <celthunder> jeremiah_: did you mount the drive anywhere if you dont mount it of course it wont show up
[04:00] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ?
[04:00] <jeremiah_> hylian, i hope you are.
[04:01] <tomgeorge> where can I find help on Inkscape extensions/
[04:01] <tomgeorge> ?
[04:01] <celthunder> jeremiah_: just ideas..and more info will help us help you
[04:01] <jeremiah_> celthunder, ? i don't undersatnd. did i miss the first part?
[04:01] <hylian> jeremiah_, me too. that's not a cheap repair, or even neccessarily repairable, given the age of the machine....
[04:01] <jeremiah_> celthunder, info of what?
[04:01] <Laiam> myhero: main backup is generally a big huge drive that stays at home, i plug it in once a month or every other month back up everything then unplug it and it sits on a shelf, secondary backup for small stuff is basically my portable drive which has my day to day files, between that my laptop and my main computer i have at least 3 copies floating around 4 if it gets to my main backup
[04:01] <hylian> jeremiah_, he is wondering what you tryed to use to mount the hard drive to get your data back... i.e. your music
[04:02] <jeremiah_> hylian, no.
[04:02] <myhero> but laiam u r forgetting something in these 3 copies....u r consuming too much space for too lil data
[04:02] <hylian> jeremiah_, so you didn't try to mount it? i might be really tired and not getting this...
[04:02] <celthunder> hylian: dmesg udisks mount and /dev help a lot....
[04:02] <celthunder> hylian: and yeah where did he mount it
[04:03] <Random832> is there a tool to tune subpixel font energy distributions?
[04:03] <Laiam> myhero: my fourth level backup is my web-server which serves for holding things temporarily between home and college in the event i forget something. i'm currently using about 20% storage capacity if that
[04:03] <myhero> like 50%-60% space utility obtained in raid
[04:03] <jeremiah_> hylian, same here. no i didn't try to mount it.
[04:03] <tomgeorge> Where can I find help for Inkscape extensions?
[04:04] <celthunder> hylian: berthen why would you expect your data to show op
[04:04] <Rask> Hello, channel.  Is there a place that one can find terminfo entries for obscure/old terminals such as the wyse-35 or the televideo 925? :)
[04:04] <hylian> myhero, backup on ubuntu, windows, or macos is never small in hd size. it backs up the whole, un compressed operating system, and your apps, and your documents...
[04:05] <Laiam> I haven't raid arrayed yet since i don't have the hardware for it but eventually i'm just going to setup my main computer to raid array in a way that if a drive fails i can just pull it out and replace it and have the system mirror data so that it just rewrites the information onto the new disk
[04:05] <myhero> yea i too have backups in 2 laptops n i desktop n one 1TB hdd...but then files dont updated in all the places in 1 go...some the files r newer n other places they r older
[04:05] <celthunder> hylian: *up if you didnt mount it dont expect it to be there
[04:05] <hylian> jeremiah_, i see. yeah, if you don't mount those hard drives while you are using the live cd, you will not have access to your data. it probably was still there. you can mount hard drives usually from nautilus or gparted, both found on a ubuntu love cd.
[04:05] <Laiam> rsync!
[04:06] <hylian> jeremiah_, live cd, not love. i am tired :)
[04:06] <funnyhaha> i need help can i download the build-essential linux-headers-generic and save them
[04:06] <Laiam> lol live cd loves you
[04:06] <jeremiah_> hylian, i will do that next time..
[04:06] <myhero> yea...thats gud coniguration for fails n backup
[04:07] <myhero> spare me for F
[04:07] <jeremiah_> hylian, me to.
[04:07] <myhero> mine too has stuck many times
[04:08] <funnyhaha> where can i download   "build-essential linux-headers-generic" so i can save them
[04:08] <celthunder> funnyhaha: from any repo
[04:08] <hylian> jeremiah_, well, atleast you can relax a little about that. as to what causes your freezes, i don't know. there is a cli program called htop i was going to have you run. when we tried to get to tty1 (control alt f1) to run htop, it had a fit. if you ever manage to get it to freeze again, using htop may get you some vaulable info as to what is causing the freeze. if it is the hd problem thing, this won't work though
[04:08] <funnyhaha> i dont understand
[04:09] <philip__> so you're in a desktopo enviroment. please open a terminal type sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the output.
[04:09] <celthunder> hylian: vmstat could show hdd issues
[04:09] <hylian> celthunder, yeah, that's the ticket
[04:09] <celthunder> hylian: also check smart like i said earlier
[04:09] <jeremiah_> hylian, how do i get htop?
[04:10] <celthunder> hylian: use top ..has everything htop has
[04:10] <Laiam> jermiah_ sudo apt-get install htop
[04:10] <Laiam> jermiah_ sudo apt-get install top
[04:10] <hylian> jeremiah_, you can download it using the ubuntu software center, or by sing synpatic, or by using the command sudo apt-get install htop in a terminal emulator like gnome-terminal
[04:11] <hylian>  celthunder whats the difference between htop and top?
[04:11] <prappl93> Is there any solution to Adobe audio being choppy? I'm trying to use Omegle and the chat is rather choppy. I tend to only go there while on my Windows partition, and I was hoping I wouldn't have to change over to that partition for that. Any suggestions/solutions?
[04:11] <hylian> celthunder, i like the search/find option ion htop.
[04:12] <jeremiah_> what kind of java is needed for minecraft?
[04:12] <myhero> i thing i hve noticed that if i get the live usb out n reinsert it in the same port or any diff then ubuntu stops working
[04:12] <myhero> it freezes
[04:13] <mr-squidley> jeremiah_, i think
[04:13] <ArchNemesis> jeremiah: should run on jre-1.6 but, i never tried int under *nix
[04:13] <mr-squidley> sun whoops
[04:13] <funnyhaha> its there a command i can use to download build-essential linux-headers-generic and not install save it somewhere
[04:13] <prappl93> I think the problem that jeremiah_ is having is that it is running, just having a weird white static effect on the textures.
[04:13] <hylian> jeremiah_, you need the java from sun. ubuntu comes with java, but while it works well for everyday uses, specialty software like minecraft doesn't work at all on it.
[04:14] <ArchNemesis> its not 'sun' anymore but yeah =P
[04:14] <hylian> jeremiah_, sorry i couldn't help you more. my brain is now a gelatinous ooze. i need sack time. i hope your problems are few and far between.
[04:15] <jeremiah_> hylian, thanks for the help!
[04:15] <jeremiah_> so how do i get java for minecraft?
[04:15] <philip__> funnyhaha, you need just the headers?
[04:15]  * hylian waves goodbye to his #ubuntu friends
[04:16] <funnyhaha> i see
[04:16] <bretzel> Hello, -- Ubuntu 12.04 (event Beta2) is Just WOW!
[04:16] <bretzel> event ** even ;-)
[04:17] <jeremiah_> nothing came out.
[04:17] <jeremiah_> srry
[04:17] <jeremiah_> going to bed.
[04:17] <funnyhaha> if i go to terminl and (sudo get-app build-essential linux-headers-generic -w and a name) will that work
[04:17] <philip__> funnyhaha: http://www.kernel.org/
[04:18] <funnyhaha> thanks
[04:18] <bretzel> But icons bar, apps minimized or not does not raise the vdesktop nor awake ( unhide) window
[04:18] <imyousuf> Hi
[04:18] <imyousuf> I want to achieve the following:
[04:18] <imyousuf> Forward SSH request to a particular port on the Ubuntu server acting as router to another server in the private network for a particular user only. That is, e.g., Router Server port 6122 will forward to Internal Server port 22; Internal Server allows ssh for User 1 and User 2; User 1 will be able to SSH through the router but User 2 will not.
[04:18] <imyousuf> My question is, is it possible using a Ubuntu box as a router? If so can someone please guide me to the how-to?
[04:18] <FloodBot1> imyousuf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <imyousuf> Hi
[04:18] <celthunder> imyousuf: yes its called iptables and ip route
[04:18] <philip__> funnyhaha: you're welcome.
[04:19] <imyousuf> celthunder: I am familiar with with both UFW and iptables
[04:19] <imyousuf> Just dont know how to achieve my scenario
[04:19] <Laiam> java... YUCK!!!
[04:19] <funnyhaha> o i dont know what im looking for
[04:20] <myhero> laiam...the installer is downloading updates i think....currently language packs.....is there any way to halt or pause this update downloading....coz i hve limited bandwidth n free night....
[04:20] <Laiam> click the arrow next to the thing
[04:20] <Laiam> then click the skip button
[04:20] <prappl93> exit
[04:21] <Laiam> myhero: the text that says downloading whatever
[04:21] <Laiam> myhero if you click on that or the > arrow next to it it should open up a little box with console information from there a skip button should be visible above it on the right side
[04:22] <myhero> yes
[04:22] <imyousuf> celthunder: How can I check for the user requesting the ssh access, i.e. username part of ssh uri?
[04:22] <Laiam> yeah why does the installer download and install like 57 language packs then remove them all (except the chosen one) when finished?
[04:22] <jonathanellis> I have chromium 18.0.1025.142~r129054-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> installed on ubuntu 11.10. It keeps randomly crashing after a few seconds or minutes, often when I try to open a webpage. I have completely removed it, deleted .config/chromium and reinstalled and I still have the problem. Can anyone help please?
[04:23] <myhero> ok so i m skipping it....i hope it doesn't skips all installation process
[04:23] <Laiam> myhero: it should only skip the step that was visible at the time you pressed the button
[04:23] <Fallout301> Laiam, that is a bit silly aint it? wasting the time to download them just to delete
[04:23] <myhero> ok
[04:24] <myhero> skipped it
[04:24] <philip__> jonathanellis: as i told you earlier please try to revert back to one of those to see if it works.
[04:24] <Fallout301> gah, the fact I can't find my other drive is annoying me
[04:24] <Laiam> fallout301: exactly
[04:25] <Laiam> myhero: are you going to try to live with unity or are you going to try another package?
[04:25] <myhero> the language packs gets installed n then deleteled automatically or we have to do it manually ?
[04:25] <Fallout301> Laiam, if you ask me it should ask you immediately "What language would you like to use?" and download JUST that pack
[04:25] <myhero> unity is which one ?
[04:25] <anonymous_> hay i can not boot in to ubuntu
[04:25] <Onixs> is there a github for a NAS script ?
[04:25] <myhero> i m installing oneiric...
[04:25] <Laiam> fallout301: lol it asks you your language at the beginning of the installer
[04:25] <jonathanellis> philip__: I was having the problem on version 17 as well. About an hour ago, update manager updated it to the current version and I still have the problem. Which version do you think I should revert to?
[04:25] <Fallout301> but it downloads all the packs
[04:25] <Laiam> myhero: the main default interface
[04:25] <anonymous_> fd;fsdG"Dgrg
[04:25] <anonymous_> r
[04:25] <anonymous_> fr
[04:25] <anonymous_> g
[04:25] <anonymous_> rgr
[04:25] <FloodBot1> anonymous_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <anonymous_> g
[04:25] <Fallout301> just to delete them
[04:26] <myhero> then unity...
[04:26] <myhero> if u can suggest any other better one then will go or it
[04:26] <studentz> How I can launch an app from cli with the GTK or QT windows on TOP? Thanks
[04:26] <gulzar>  how to find out the files being used by a process? eg: I have 3 conky runnng but in the configuration I have added onky 1 setup... so there is some other file being run .. how to find its location with the running processes?
[04:26] <Laiam> myhero: if you want something that might have a closer feel to windows you can try KDE or something else...
[04:26] <myhero> installation finished
[04:26] <myhero> ok
[04:26] <funnyhaha> is this what im looking for    3.4-rc1
[04:26] <Laiam> cool!
[04:27] <Laiam> !kde > myhero
[04:27] <myhero> but suggest keeping in mind that m a newbie to linux n ubuntu...
[04:27] <studentz> gulzar use top or atop from cli
[04:27] <myhero> k
[04:27] <Fallout301> i personally think Gnome 2, at least as implimented in LM 10, was pretty dang close to windows
[04:27] <celthunder> myhero: xmonad is my fav gui
[04:27] <celthunder> Fallout301: gnome 2 is eol
[04:27] <tomgeorge> why am I unable to post anything to the inkscape channel?
[04:28] <gulzar> studentz: I want the files being used... but I got it .. {ps aux | grep $pid}
[04:28] <dmogle> gulzar: lsof lists open files by process id
[04:28] <celthunder> are you registered
[04:28] <gulzar> dmogle: Ok.. but I got it with ps .. thank you
[04:28] <celthunder> tomgeorge: cegister with nickserv
[04:28] <Fallout301> celthunder, that might be true, but it is still my favorite Gnome, although I haven't played with Gnome 3 terribly much
[04:28] <myhero> k
[04:28] <Laiam> linux mint does a good job of keeping everything as simple as you want it to be
[04:29] <foolhaedy1> #wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame Laiam thunder1212 Shirakawasuna Fallout301 myhero celthunder #wolfgame
[04:29] <myhero> ok i'll try xmonad n kde...
[04:29] <Laiam> fallout301 gnome3 has a fallback mode which basically turns it into gnome2
[04:29] <celthunder> Fallout301: dont bother lol go to xmonad or awesome or openbox ... mate is the new gnome 2 fork if you wanted that though
[04:29] <foolhaedy1>  #wolfgame - #wolfgame - everybody join #wolfgame - loads of fun - #wolfgame - #wolfgame
[04:29] <bazhang> foolhaedy1, stop that
[04:30] <studentz> gulzar sorry I misunderstood your q? Do you want to know the pid of the subprocess?
[04:30] <myhero> but for kde will i hve to install kubuntu...or it will work in ubuntu
[04:30] <celthunder> Laiam: that will sooner or later be taken out
[04:30] <Fallout301> wasnt uh.. Cinnamin basically a continuation of Gnome 2?
[04:30] <celthunder> myhero: you can install all the guis you want...
[04:30] <Laiam> celthunder: sadpanda
[04:30] <myhero> ok
[04:30] <Fallout301> i know i didn't spell it right
[04:30] <celthunder> Fallout301: idk mate is the one linus was supporting i think...
[04:30] <Laiam> also linux mint is turning gnome3 into something more recognizable
[04:30] <thunder1212> am unable to configure my printer in ubuntu 10.04 the printer is detected and installed but does not print although it accepts the print command the icon appears on the panel and dissapears quickly
[04:30] <tomgeorge> celthunder, I have registered with nickserv...
[04:30] <celthunder> could be wrong obviously i dont use it
[04:31] <beginner> hi test msg
[04:31] <Laiam> yuck printers
[04:31] <thunder1212> the printer is hp inkadvantage k109g
[04:31] <celthunder> people still print?
[04:32] <Fallout301> yes celthunder, its amazing, we have printers still!
[04:32] <Fallout301> :O
[04:32] <codencrazy> I recently hooked up a new monitor to my ubuntu 12.04 box, it works fine on the desktop at 1680x1050, but when I hit ALT CTRL F1 for a console window, it goes straight to an Out Of Range, any ideas?
[04:32]  * celthunder meanders off to find those still inventing the wheel
[04:32] <myhero> thnx all for help....bye
[04:32] <Laiam> KDE stole my heart when it properly detected my battery and figured out the actual powerlevel without acting like it was the end of the world when my cable came unplugged unlike unity/gnome where the plug coming undone means instant shutdown
[04:32] <Fallout301> lol
[04:33] <celthunder> codencrazy: set your terminal reosolution valid
[04:33] <Fallout301> well i know Gnome 2 is EOL, but it didnt blow a gasket on me lol
[04:33] <myhero> haha...laiam....
[04:33] <myhero> accha whats the diff in KDE n ubuntu
[04:33] <celthunder> ??
[04:34] <studentz> thunder1212  from terminal lpr yourDocument  and  post the error
[04:34] <Laiam> kde is just a different way of displaying things
[04:34] <celthunder> kde is a full de
[04:34] <myhero> then whats the point o detecting the battery
[04:34] <myhero> of
[04:35] <celthunder> myhero: probably uses acpi differently...
[04:35] <celthunder> who knows ...
[04:35] <myhero> the batter gets detected by system n not ui
[04:35] <myhero> mayb..
[04:35] <Laiam> on a laptop battery life is important if you want to be able to cross the room without your computer dying while its unplugged
[04:35] <gtech_> I fucked up my .profile script in my home folder and now when I login ubuntu hangs before I can even get a terminal, is there anyway to change this?
 I can't use the alternate tty screens because my video drivers are fucked and the screen freezes when I try
 I can't mount the directory from a liveCD because the mounting passphrase in locked inside and I forgot it
 password ssh login is disabled, and I don't have the secret key
[04:35] <FloodBot1> gtech_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <myhero> battery
[04:36] <gtech_> I'm going to assume that sent, sorry for the paste spam
[04:36] <Laiam> gtech: login using tty1 basically terminal... you can do this via pressing alt+ctrl+F1
[04:36] <Laiam> before logging in from the main screen
[04:36] <myhero> bye all frnds...specially laiam...
[04:36] <gtech_> yeah, like I said, I just get fracturing because I need to fix my video drivers
[04:36] <celthunder> Laiam: he still needs the passphrase....
[04:36] <Laiam> lol
[04:37] <Laiam> gtech_: wow you really messed it up bigtime didn't you...
[04:37] <celthunder> gtech_: dont set a pass and forget it next time go rm yoursself and as for losing your key as well no good if its not mounted...
[04:37] <celthunder> mae up your mind what you did you contardicted yourself a bit there
[04:37] <gtech_> I have my login passphrase, but not the one which the drive is encrypted with, which I guess in is PT and encrypted by my login
[04:38] <Laiam> gtech_: can you use the guest login?
[04:38] <celthunder> gtech then you cant boot
[04:38] <Laiam> gtech_: have you enabled the root account?
[04:38] <gtech_> Laiam, maybe on the guest login I'll try
[04:38] <gtech_> no the root account is still disabled
[04:38] <celthunder> Laiam: i think he lied somewhere though im tired...
[04:38] <Laiam> ...
[04:38] <celthunder> his drive is incrypted but he can boot....
[04:39] <Fallout301> hmm
[04:39] <celthunder> not much of an encrypton and if he knos that he can use a livecd
[04:39] <Laiam> celthunder most likely its only the /home directory that is encrypted
[04:39] <gtech_> no my home directory is encrytped
[04:39] <gtech_> I should have been more specific, though I never said drive
[04:39] <Laiam> gtech_: anyway try the guest account then terminal su yourself
[04:39] <Laiam> and do everything from command line
[04:41] <Laiam> once you get it fixed you should probably put the passphrase for your encrypted partition somewhere where you can get at it at home...
[04:41] <Laiam> and i mean physical home not computer home
[04:41] <gtech_> yeah  I three computers that I had it on, three points of failure
[04:41] <gtech_> just recently I had one box go down, and this latest fuckup was my last line to my remote backup
[04:42] <gtech_> >.<
[04:42] <Laiam> crash and burn!
[04:42] <Fallout301> ouch
[04:43] <Laiam> yeah... i don't encrypt my home systems because i don't have anything on them worth taking my mobile system is encrypted because of the principle of it...
[04:43] <Laiam> hard drive firmware password ftw!
[04:43] <gtech_> it's Guest and no pw right?
[04:44] <Laiam> should be... which version of ubuntu you floatin on?
[04:44] <gtech_> latest
[04:44] <Laiam> yeah just click through the options for Guest and there is no password because its guest
[04:45] <gtech_> ugh yeah that's not working, how is ubuntu decrypting my drive without my entering in my passphrase everytime?
[04:46] <gtech_> if I have my login isn't there some way to retrieve it?
[04:46] <kota> hey all
[04:46] <Laiam> can you use terminal to switch user in a gnome-terminal to yourself
[04:47] <gtech_> Laiam, I can't login as Guest at all
[04:48] <Laiam> yuck
[04:48] <gtech_> I can't login at all
[04:48] <Laiam> its not on the login screen?
[04:48] <gtech_> there's an other option which allows you to throw in other logins
[04:48] <gtech_> I've used that
[04:49] <Laiam> shouldn't have needed to
[04:49] <Laiam> your on 11.10 right so under login box for your account there should be one that says guest
[04:49] <gtech_> maybe there's another user I can login as, what's the name of the users file?
[04:49] <gtech_> it isn't there
[04:51] <luismjk> hola?
[04:51] <Shdwdrgn> I have an issue with the keyboard lock indicator LEDs.  I have 5 machines running natty.  Some the num-lock led switches, others it does not.  The caps-lock indicator does not switch on any of the machines, from GUI or from CLI.
[04:51] <Fallout301> interesting issue, thats all i can say to that
[04:52] <Laiam> gtech_ really did you customize your login screen or disable the guest accoutn? cause it should have been there as "Guest session" right alongside the other
[04:52] <paulus68> gtech_: might this be an solution to your problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[04:52] <luismjk> español?
[04:52] <Shdwdrgn> these are all regular desktop machines with standard keyboards.  I can't seem to find anything on google either.
[04:53] <paulus68> !es |luismjk
[04:53] <luismjk> je je gracias :D
[04:54] <Laiam> gtech_: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z5/illo/nw/story_graphics/12jan/ubuntu/ubuntu-login.jpg
[04:54] <Laiam> or is the login screen non-standard because of the video driver issue?
[04:54] <gtech_> Laiam, found it, wow so I'm in the home stretch thanks
[04:54] <gtech_> that might be the case
[04:54] <gtech_> I didn't customize it
[04:55] <Laiam> gtech_: ok cool! now just need to see if you can use a gui terminal to login as yourself and edit the drive
[04:56] <Laiam> basically su username
[04:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: standard keyboards?  are they usb or the other type?  at what stage of boot or operation do you have this problem?
[04:57] <Laiam> shdwdrgn: have the keyboards been damaged in anyway possible?
[04:57] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, they are ps/2 keyboards.  One machine is at init5, the others are servers at init3.  I could reboot one and see where it seems to start happening...
[04:58] <Shdwdrgn> Laiam, the keyboards are fine.  The indicators were working under lucid, but stopped sometime around the upgrade through maverick/natty
[04:58] <Laiam> ahh ok ... i haven't had a chance to mess with that much since i'm mostly on my laptop
[04:58] <iCoffee> somebody here could help me ?
[04:58] <Laiam> iCoffee: you desired assistance?
[04:59] <iCoffee> one question only
[05:00] <iCoffee> my grub customizer don't open ( distr. ubuntu 11.10)
[05:00] <sacarlson> !ask | iCoffee
[05:00] <Xenon|2> Ok, really stupid question, but where can i go to applications?
[05:00] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I assume you got it from ppa?
[05:00] <Laiam> sacarlson: lol nice i'll have to remember that command
[05:00] <Laiam> Xenon|2 i'm assuming you are in unity
[05:01] <Xenon|2> Laiam: What do you mean?
[05:01] <iCoffee> sacarlson:
[05:01] <iCoffee> i get from terminal
[05:01] <Xenon|2> sorry i'm new to this :(
[05:01] <macos> hi
[05:01] <sacarlson> iCoffee: show us the line you used in terminal to run it,  or did you even install it yet?
[05:01] <Laiam> Xenon|2: unity is the default interface for ubuntu in 11.10 which i'm also going to assume your using
[05:01] <iCoffee> ok
[05:02] <iCoffee> one momeny
[05:02] <iCoffee> moment
[05:02] <Laiam> !unity > Xenon|2
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo apt-get update
[05:02] <iCoffee> sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[05:03] <sacarlson> iCoffee: ok that must mean you installed it,  so what did you do to try to run it?
[05:03] <Laiam> Xenon|2: access to installed applications is available via the launcher
[05:04] <Shdwdrgn> OK capslock indicator works fine from grub, and when the kernal first loads.  It stops working sometime during the process of "Begin running sciripts init/Bottom"
[05:04] <iCoffee> i search in start panel
[05:04] <iCoffee> and open
[05:04] <Shdwdrgn> note that the capslock still functions, its just the keyboard indicator that doesn't change to show the status
[05:04] <sacarlson> iCoffee: then lets try in the terminal to see why it didn't open
[05:04] <iCoffee> but but when it finishes loading it closes
[05:05] <iCoffee> ok
[05:06] <Laiam> Shdwdrgn: keyboard drivers?
[05:06] <sacarlson> iCoffee: my guess is that your not a sudoer or your trying to run it without sudo rights
[05:06] <Shdwdrgn> Laiam, none that I installed.  Whatever ubuntu installs for a standard US keyboard.
[05:07] <sacarlson> iCoffee: so to run it in a terminal you could try sudo gksudo grub-customizer ;
[05:07] <iCoffee> ok
[05:08] <thunder1212> hp ink advantage k109g not able to print from ubuntu 10.04
[05:08] <Laiam> sacarlson: gksu is the command for sudo for gui
[05:08] <iCoffee> grub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail
[05:08] <Laiam> so... gksu grub-customizer
[05:08] <ponrajuganesh> is there any way to find the only the ip address of the system
[05:08] <iCoffee> sacarlson:
[05:08] <ponrajuganesh> A quick question what could be the possible grep option to get the ip address alone using ifconfig
[05:10] <ponrajuganesh> could anyone help I need the IP adress ignoring all the other details
[05:10] <thunder1212> unable to print from printer
[05:10] <sacarlson> iCoffee: what are we looking at?
[05:11] <thunder1212> ubuntu 10.04 lts
[05:11] <rkhshm> how do i setup a isns server on ubuntu 11.10?
[05:11] <rkhshm> needed some urgent info please
[05:11] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  no open the grub customizer
[05:11] <centHOGG> !isns
[05:11] <iCoffee> in the final show this message
[05:11] <iCoffee> grub-customizer: /build/buildd/grub-customizer-2.5.4/src/model/grublistCfg.cpp:454: bool GrublistCfg::compare(const GrublistCfg&) const: Assertiva `piter->dataSource != __null' fail
[05:11] <Shdwdrgn> ponrajuganesh, ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\  -f1
[05:12] <thunder1212> if u are using an older version of ubuntu and u purchase a new printer then does it mean that u will now have to change or upgrade ur distro?
[05:12] <centHOGG> how old?
[05:12] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: fconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:'
[05:13] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: ifconfig eth0| grep 'inet addr:' sorry
[05:13] <ponrajuganesh> this works perfectly in ubuntu Shdwdrgn and paulus68 but unix doesnot support the same
[05:13] <ponrajuganesh> any idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn
[05:13] <sacarlson> iCoffee: what was used in your command when this is seen ?
[05:14] <iCoffee> the command gksudo grub-customizer
[05:14] <iCoffee> on terminal
[05:14] <Arovij> hi I want to add virtual interface to my machine. Should I be making changes to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:14] <Laiam> http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/linux-get-ip-address/
[05:15] <Shdwdrgn> ponrajuganesh, you're in a linux channel asking for unix help?  You haven't even mentioned what type of unix you're running.
[05:15] <ponrajuganesh> any idea what would come there ? paulus68 Shdwdrgn
[05:15] <ponrajuganesh> solaris 5.10
[05:15] <jamesw> hi.. i just did a live boot of ubuntu studio 12.04, and it did not work with my logitech mx5500 wireless keyboard/mouse combo.. do you know of a fix, or do you think it will work if i do the install anyway? it works fine currently on ubuntu standard 11.04
[05:15] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  pvt
[05:15] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: just checking hold on
[05:15] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I'm not sure what could cause that,  it might be a bug in the parser of grub-customizer,
[05:17] <sacarlson> iCoffee: I've used grub-customizer on two builds so far with no problems on 10.04 and 11.10
[05:17] <kingsizeba> Hello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.
[05:17] <gtech_> Laiam, thanks for all your help, unfortunately it looks like my passphrase isn't stored in the same way that file is describing so I'm going to see if I can revive an old box
[05:17] <gtech_> and get back into this one
[05:17] <gtech_> cheers, ttyl
[05:17] <ponrajuganesh> sure paulus68
[05:17] <ponrajuganesh> thanks paulus68
[05:17] <thunder1212> If someone is using and older version of ubuntu say 10.04 LTS and purchases a new printer does it mean that i have to upgrade or change the distro??
[05:18] <iCoffee> sacarlson:  have other program to do that ?
[05:18] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: ifconfig -a eth0 | awk '/inet/ {print $2}' would this do the trick for you
[05:18] <ponrajuganesh> well the thing is it is i got one with unix but the same not working in linux paulus68
[05:18] <centHOGG> i don't think so... v10 not too old
[05:18] <iCoffee> to do a better visual on grub ?
[05:18] <Laiam> gtech: hope you get it working thanks for the update on your progress if you do solve it feel free to share how
[05:18] <SamSD> Hello. Wondering how to check if i have the latest drivers? For graphics im using a Mobile GM965/GL960 I.G.C.,  would like to optimize, please help ty
[05:18] <sacarlson> iCoffee: not a gui that I know of,  you will have to edit the grub files with a standard editor
[05:18] <Arovij> join ##ubuntu
[05:19] <ponrajuganesh> shoudl I have semi colon at the end or something paulus68
[05:19] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: yes
[05:19] <thunder1212> i have a new hp ink advantage k109g printer and i am not able to print from ubuntu 10.04 but i can easily print using 11.04
[05:20] <vindolin> is there a way to decrypt an encrypted home dir in place? I'm badly affected by the dreaded "Valid eCryptfs headers not found..." bug http://bit.ly/o10UG1 and I'm tired of waiting for a fix.. dmesg is so spammed with that error, its useless :(
[05:20] <thunder1212> so what to do??
[05:20] <ponrajuganesh> or else is there an option to find the uunder lying system is unix or linux>
[05:20] <Guest88186> l
[05:20] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: don't know just googling in order to find an answer that might be helpfull for you
[05:23] <ponrajuganesh> 'uname -s' helps paulus68
[05:27] <paulus68> ponrajuganesh: uname -s under ubuntu returns linux
[05:27] <ponrajuganesh> ya paulus68 the same under unix returns someother
[05:28] <ponrajuganesh> so one could use the first command for the linux and the second grep for unix
[05:28] <lebro> Does ubuntu come with a cronjob clearing ~/.bash_history by default? I tried modifying my .bashrc to allow a profane history size, but for some reason my history keeps getting cleared.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> ponrajuganesh: For general UNIX programming and scripting try ##unix.
[05:29] <Ali1_apac> hi all
[05:29] <Ali1_apac> I am installing cacti which uses php
[05:30] <ZenGuy311> how can I install beautifulsoup4 on lucid?
[05:30] <Ali1_apac> i have installed it to /usr/share - but when I point my browser at localhost/cacti - its Not Found. How do I configure my system to look in the right place?
[05:30] <laihan> hi
[05:34] <Laiam> good night
[05:34] <Fallout301> night
[05:35] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: doesn't look like 4 is in any repos prior to precise, you'll have to get it yourself
[05:35] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  k
[05:36] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: if you have setup tools you should be able to easy_install beautifulsoup4
[05:36] <myhero> laiam u there ?
[05:36] <ubuntu64bit> i don't think i let my update finish installing after running update manager i manually shut down the computer and upon reboot my wifi wouldn't work so i clicked on partial update let the update try to finish without a connection rebooted then the wifi came back on is this possible?
[05:37] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  installing easytools now
[05:40] <ZenGuy311> dmogle:  thanks it works
[05:41] <dmogle> ZenGuy311: good deal, happy to help!
[05:43] <ZenGuy311> Ali1_apac:   i hope this helps http://openmaniak.com/cacti_tutorial.php
[05:43] <myhero> hi all
[05:44] <c02z> f
[05:45] <myhero> dual boot system with win7 and ubuntu....now boot screen gives ubuntu boot loader screen with some seconds to default ubuntu loading....how to change it to win7 boot loader screen and revert it back to deault win7 loading ?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> myhero: Do you want to remove Ubuntu entirely?
[05:47] <mmercer> lo all
[05:47] <mmercer> anyone happen to know which image would be necessary to install on a tm5800 cpu ?
[05:47] <myhero> no...just change the boot loader screen to win7 and make win7 default
[05:47] <myhero> i want to keep ubuntu alongside
[05:47] <ZenGuy311> myhero:  try easybcd for windows
[05:48] <Jordan_U> myhero: I understand wanting Windows to be the default, but defaulting to the Windows boot screen will make it much harder to dual boot with Ubuntu, without any gain that I can see. Why do you want to do this?
[05:48] <idan_> how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu
[05:48] <myhero> ok
[05:49] <myhero> coz if i will not pay attention for that ew seconds then ubuntu will load by default n then i will have to shut it down n again boot windows
[05:49] <myhero> *few
[05:49] <laihan> hello everyone
[05:50] <idan_> how I make the screen blanks if i don't touch the computer for a minute? im new  at ubuntu
[05:50] <EmoBoiix3> hi everyone
[05:50] <venkatmangudi> idan_, check power preferences...
[05:50] <idan_> i was checked theres only suspend there
[05:50] <idan_> i don't look for suspend
[05:50] <Jordan_U> myhero: OK, so you just want the grub menu to default to booting Windows. That's easy, and does not require easybcd.
[05:50] <idan_> im look for just black screen
[05:50] <Jordan_U> myhero: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[05:51] <myhero> ok if the boot screen cant be reverted back to win7 then no problem but if atleast win7 can be made default then it would b gr8
[05:51] <dmogle> idan_: You want the screen settings.  You can set a screen turnoff time there
[05:51] <venkatmangudi> idan_, put display to sleep is what u need
[05:51] <idan_> i ddid it 1 minute
[05:51] <Jordan_U> myhero: Like I said, defaulting to Windows is easy.
[05:51] <idan_> and all the night the screen wasn't blank
[05:51] <myhero> k
[05:51] <Guest48587> Trouble with Chromium getting a segmentation fault
[05:52] <myhero> how ?
[05:52] <Fallout301> Jordan_U, arent u basically just editing the grub file and putting windows first?
[05:52] <Fallout301> I can't remember exactly what its called
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> It seems that my Google Chrome hates me when I'm using root
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Fallout301: No. I am going to have myhero change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub.
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> Pages just suddenly die
[05:52] <TRAVISg> Chromium apps/chromium.rc does not exist
[05:52] <EmoBoiix3> And Google Chrome turns unresponsive within 10 seconds of execution
[05:52] <kandinski> I want to search for a string in the package name
[05:53] <Fallout301> yea, thats what i was referring it, ive never done the process tho so i didn't know where it was hidden
[05:53] <Jordan_U> myhero: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg so I can find the proper value for GRUB_DEFAULT.
[05:53] <kandinski> so apt-cache search won't work for me, because it finds that string anywhere in a package description
[05:53] <kandinski> any idea?
[05:53] <myhero> yea doing pastebin
[05:53] <idan_> so what i need if it not works..
[05:53] <venkatmangudi> idan_, did u display to sleep is what u need
[05:53] <TRAVISg> I am also having major problems with Chromium
[05:53] <idan_> yes
[05:53] <idan_> just the screen
[05:54] <myhero> http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> fot both ac power and battery?
[05:54] <idan_> that the computer will keep running
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> *for
[05:54] <idan_> no just i want the screenblack and the computer keep work
[05:54] <Vlad___> Hallo! Can you please tell how to configure the reconnection to the wi-fi network. Where should I write ifconfig wlan0 down / up? When the reboot the access point, the server is not connected. Now, I created a script and run it every 5 minutes cron (syslog: CRON [4004]: (root) CMD (/ home/wirelesscheck.sh)), but did not reconnect when network lost: (
[05:54] <venkatmangudi> then go to screensaver settings
[05:55] <venkatmangudi> set blank screen
[05:55] <venkatmangudi> if u put display to sleep, computer will still work
[05:55] <TRAVISg> I can no longer use chromium error in terminal say segmentation fault
[05:56] <TRAVISg> Something about apps/chromium.rc does not exist
[05:56] <myhero> @jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:56] <idan_> this option is in system settings?
[05:56] <myhero> @jordan did pastebin - http://pastebin.com/E1ekDNnN
[05:56] <Jordan_U> myhero: Run "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub", which will bring up a text editor. Change   GRUB_DEFAULT=0   to GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[05:57] <idan_> i don't know where the screensaver settings..
[05:57] <venkatmangudi> yep... should be in display...