[18:01] <fccf> esicam: I am a little behind I am running 9.04 ... and 8.04, so I may not be able to help, I know that if you do a proper reinstall you will find that you did not read correctly when installing ... it is autologin and if checked you will not see a login screen, it will just login as the first user
[18:01] <Richiie> karnivore: no problem i dont have anything on the system disk to backup... just wanna know the status on it
[18:01] <DarkSpirit> How can I do an unattended network install of Ubuntu, from Ubuntu Server?
[18:01] <DasEi1> Richiie: package smarmontolls, let's you check your sectors (e2)fsck for filesystem
[18:01] <Richiie> if it has bad sectors or what the hell is going on
[18:01] <karnivore> richiie: np :)
[18:01] <karnivore> short of creating a script or alias that uses gksu -D, is there any way to make gksu use a different default message in the password prompt?
[18:01] <DasEi1> Richiie: package smarmontools*, let's you check your sectors (e2)fsck for filesystem
[18:01] <blakkheim> Richiie: there is stuff like smartmontools but i wouldn't even bother if you think the drive is dying
[18:01] <brianherman> !ubottu
[18:01] <esicam> fccf, i got the problem and thanks for the help
[18:01] <j0nr> hi all, am having errors during installation. error ubi-language, timezone and partitioning
[18:02] <fccf> esicam: np
[18:02] <abhi_nav> j0nr: which version?
[18:02] <Nitsuga> fccf, 9.04 is still supported. Go to gdmsetup in System -> administration -> login screen. I on't remember exavclty where the option is
[18:03] <csaba> how can I find out the DNS address of my ISP?
[18:03] <fccf> Nitsuga: I am not the one with the problem ... esicam see Nitsuga note to me and thank you Nitsuga
[18:03] <madjoe> How to solve my overheating problem (AMD64 laptop)? Fancontrol, Qtfan? What to use?
[18:03] <Richiie> blakkheim: do you know what the error message ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
[18:03] <Richiie> [  102.628116] ata2.00: error: { ICRC ABRT }
[18:03] <Richiie> what does that error message mean ? i have googled it but i have no solution at all
[18:04] <blakkheim> Richiie: i don't offhand, you could google, but i'd just go ahead and get a new disk in there
[18:04] <Richiie> blakkheim: is it possible on someway to do an backup on an server OS and then throw it in on another disk ?
[18:04] <esicam> I installed ubuntu 9.10 on my dell laptop and while starting the computer, it shows grub loading but no menu appears and directly logins to ubuntu rather than asking to chose ubuntu or vista
[18:04] <joeblob> I installed 9.10 yesterday and it worked great, but suddenly the keys on this Lenovo don't respond
[18:04] <Nitsuga> fccf, ohh i see
[18:04] <joeblob> nor the mouse
[18:04] <madjoe> funny thing: under my WinXP the temp. barely raises higher than 40 C, but when using Ubuntu 9.10, it goes up to 80 C!!
[18:04] <blakkheim> Richiie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=937872
[18:05] <blakkheim> !info partimage | Richiie
[18:05] <j0nr> abhi_nav: ubunut 9.10
[18:05] <Aled_> hi
[18:05] <abhi_nav> esicam: press esc at the time of booting (blank screen)
[18:05] <talat_> 6hey p
[18:05] <j0nr> abhi_nav: xubuntu 9.10 didnt do it, fwiw
[18:05] <Aled_> I would like to dual boot Windows XP with Server ubuntu 9.10
[18:05] <Aled_> possible?
[18:05] <abhi_nav> ok
[18:05] <madjoe> Aled_: wubi.exe
[18:05] <esicam> abhi_nav, i tried that but nothing happened
[18:05] <j0nr> abhi_nav: from liveUSB stick
[18:05] <joeblob> what would cause the keys to just stop responding when they previously worked?
[18:05] <talat_> 4fuck puou
[18:05] <abhi_nav> !dualboot | Aled_
[18:05] <DasEi1> Aled_: yes, and don't use wubi
[18:06] <Aled_> madjoe, I didn't know Server Ubuntu had wubi.exe
[18:06] <Aled_> thanks
[18:06] <blakkheim> wubi should be avoided if possible
[18:06] <llutz> csaba: "grep -i dns /var/log/syslog" if you're using dhcp
[18:06] <fccf> esicam: goto System>Administration>Login Window... in the security tab ... autologin is the top option ... as for grub ... Press ESC while it says Grub Loading the first time
[18:06] <madjoe> DasEi1: why not to use wubi? I use it right now and it seems quite ok
[18:07] <exalt> fccf:  yes i added those lines ther
[18:07] <exalt> e
[18:07] <csaba> llutz: that only tells me my own ip address
[18:07] <exalt> fccf:  richie has the same problem i thin k
[18:07] <joeblob> any ideas how to get the keyboard working?
[18:07] <ths_> Salut !
[18:07] <DasEi1> Aled_: wubi is an implementation for windows to run ubuntu like a prog, lot's of risks, simple defragg of ntfs brings system down, bad performance, hard recovery, bad support, madjoe
[18:07] <llutz> csaba: if using a router, you have to use it there
[18:07] <esicam> fccf, i get user accounts but i dont get to chose between operating systems
[18:08] <llutz> csaba: on that device, getting the ip from your ISP
[18:08] <Aled_> I've used WUBI with normal Ubuntu 9.10 but I uninstalled
[18:08] <Aled_> I'd prefer to dualboot
[18:08] <joeblob> the keyboard works fine in Grub... just not after booting
[18:08] <fccf> esicam: aaah ... you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  and add the other operating system to the list ... see !grub
[18:08] <DasEi1> Aled_: wubi is nice to just try ubuntu out, but then can also use a live cd or better an usb-install
[18:08] <fccf> !grub | esicam
[18:08] <fccf> !grub2 |esicam
[18:09] <DasEi1> Aled_: size of the harddrive ?
[18:09] <Aled_> 80gb
[18:09] <JeffMcBiscuit> hi there folks, I've just removed pulseaudio and installed alsa and can get sound working during the test in "gstreamer-properties" which is set to alsa, the issue is now I can't get sound in totem or rhythmbox... Is there something I'm missing?
[18:09] <DasEi1> !who | Aled_:
[18:09] <Aled_> I split the hard drive into 2 partitions when I installed Windows
[18:09] <userubuntu> hey how do i remove nexus personal
[18:09] <joeblob> it works fine in safe mode with networking also
[18:09] <madjoe> DasEi1: is there an easy way to export my current wubi installation into a normal installation of the same version of Ubuntu 9.10?
[18:09] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I have a problem with packet manager program and Flash extension. Package manager doesn't install or remove program because it doesn't connect to any server. I tried different servers but program didn't connect. Also Flash stopped working without any error. How can I solve these problems? Thank you for your help.
[18:10] <joeblob> what would cause the keys on a laptop to just stop responding when they previously worked?
[18:10] <esicam> fccf, ubottu i know i have grub2 1.97 version but how to edit and put other operating system there
[18:10] <Aled_> DesEil - It's in 2 partitions about 39gb each, 80gb capacity
[18:10] <DasEi1>  Aled_: quite small for dualboot, works o' course but have small space for storage then
[18:10] <joeblob> i guess i'll just reinstall
[18:10] <joeblob> and hope it doesn't happen again
[18:10] <Aled_> DasEil - I'm only installing it to get to grips with it
[18:10] <Aled_> DasEil - not yet planning to use it on WAN
[18:11] <DasEi1> madjoe: no, but you can re-plicate your packages an backup /home of course, config gets lost , though
[18:11] <Turbolinux> I removed and installed again Flash but it didn't effect the situation I must say.
[18:11] <DasEi1> Aled_: WAN ?
[18:11] <joeblob> the keyboard works when I do 'startx' from safemode, but not at all when I boot normal
[18:11] <fccf> esicam: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   . to edit the grub list ... see the howto's for info on how to properly add os's to the list
[18:12] <Aled_> DasEil - Wide Area Network, the internet etc
[18:12] <jaundice|> esicam : sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom ...
[18:12] <joeblob> hmm... how can I repair my keyboard drivers
[18:12] <jaundice|> sudo grub-mkconfig
[18:12] <jaundice|> sudo update-grub
[18:12] <Aled_> DasEil - I want to see how the OS operates and check out the output via this laptop
[18:12] <user1_> I just had some problems with dual boot and hence recovered windows and reinstalled ubuntu but all my data got lost during grub reinstall. is there anyway to recover data in bits and pieces
[18:13] <esicam> jaundice|, what after that?
[18:13] <jaundice|> reboot?
[18:13] <jaundice|> uyou need to edit the 40_custom file
[18:14] <DasEi1> Aled_: ah, i see, why not use it there ? it's less "harmable then win
[18:14] <starbuck33> hi, i need help setting up a network for a lan party... we have internet router with dhcp and it ahs to stay like this.. theres a server with 2 nic's and the internet should get routed from first nic to second one, all clients should further clients should have static ip's and connect to the internet through the second nic of th server.. i have no clue how to start
[18:14] <esicam> fccf, i want how to only?
[18:15] <DasEi1> Aled_: fine is that you already got 2 partitions, that will spare some hassle, also win needs a primary to install, ubuntu can be installed on an extended, too
[18:15] <user1_> I just had some problems with dual boot and hence recovered windows and reinstalled ubuntu but all my data got lost during grub reinstall. is there anyway to recover data in bits and pieces
[18:15] <starbuck33> #debian.de
[18:15] <Red_HamsterX> starbuck33, that sounds fun.
[18:16] <DasEi1> Aled_: On your side, I'd back up current working win mbr, case grub screws it up
[18:16] <ViioLeTiiTa> Olaaa
[18:16] <jax55> i have an issue where ssh is not accessable from certain hosts until i restart ufw ....any ideas?
[18:16] <esicam> jaundice|, i just copy pasted what you typed and i got an editor and i did nothing there so whats the use of reboot
[18:16] <histo> I have a command line install and want to get sound working. Should I install alsa-base or pulseaudio? I've noticed the default distro uses both.
[18:16] <Aled_> DasEil - there isn't a lot of important information on the Windows installation
[18:17] <user1_> no one???
[18:17] <Aled_> DasEil - I started the installation a few minutes ago based on the link I was given
[18:17] <user1_> this is unfair
[18:17] <jaundice|> esicam, you need to add the grub entry for your extra os in the 40_custom file
[18:17] <madjoe> DasEi1: you were wrong - http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html
[18:17] <xinshun> what's different between EXT4 and EXT4Dev?
[18:17] <esicam> jaundice|, how can i do that?
[18:17] <Red_HamsterX> starbuck33, I'm interested in helping you, but I think the problem will take some time to solve.
[18:17] <Aled_> Does OpenSSH mean I can access the server from another computer?
[18:17] <tom789> hi!
[18:17] <madjoe> DasEi1: after a full backup of a wubi installation, it's possible to export it as a native installation
[18:18] <llutz> Aled_: openssh is  remote shell access
[18:18] <tom789> can anybody help me with virtual box?
[18:18] <histo> Aled_: if its installed you can use ssh to access it.
[18:18] <histo> !ssh | Aled_
[18:18] <jaundice|> esicam http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[18:18] <tom789> I want to make the virtual pc connect through a proxy only
[18:18] <tom789> dunno how to do that
[18:18] <Richiie> blakkheim: i did an e2fsck -f -c -v /dev/sdb1 on my system drive
[18:18] <Richiie> and the result was 0 bad blocks
[18:19] <DasEi1> madjoe: so this an easy way to achieve it ? if you say so, I try to avoid wubi
[18:19] <alabd> llutz: yes in the site is written > It allows your Linux system to act as a speakerphone for your mobile phone
[18:19] <phuzz> I have an issue with a locked folder!!  anyone have a moment???  Probably very simple to fix...but im a newb!  LoL
[18:19] <alabd> llutz: so it does not include mic ?
[18:20] <JeffMcBiscuit> someone _please_ enlighten me as to why I can get sound using alsa from mplayer but not from totem, even though I have gstreamer alsa installed?!
[18:20] <xangua> JeffMcBiscuit: gtreamer-properties >>> select alsa plugin
[18:21] <rebe> hola
[18:21] <rebe> hola
[18:21] <llutz> alabd: keep on reading, all interesting stuff is written there.  i won't do it for you
[18:21] <madjoe> DasEi1: it's an easy way.. it includes one command line to backup.. for me the migration is essential, since I was thinking of moving to a native installation
[18:21] <JeffMcBiscuit> xangua: it is already selected.. and sound works when testing
[18:21] <rebe> no hablais en español??
[18:21] <JeffMcBiscuit> xangua: Im stumped
[18:21] <xangua> JeffMcBiscuit: maybe you need to restart your session
[18:21] <xangua> !es | rebe
[18:21] <phuzz> I have an issue with a locked folder!!  anyone have a moment???  Probably very simple to fix
[18:22] <JeffMcBiscuit> xangua: i'll givethat a go
[18:22] <Patap0uf> francais ?
[18:22] <rebe> ok
[18:22] <Pici> !fr | Patap0uf
[18:22] <rebe> yes
[18:22] <Patap0uf> epic :D
[18:22] <Refried_> i'm trying to run lucid in a chroot, and i'm having a weird problem — sudo is saying "can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied", but the permission is 0440 root:root.
[18:22] <Refried_> I tried running strace sudo, but i don't see any clues.  any ideas?
[18:22] <Aled_> How do I get the IP address of the server computer?
[18:23] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? totem uses gstreamer ... mplayer uses xine ... also see that you have all gstreamer plugins installed (i.e. good, mad, bad & ugly)
[18:23] <rebe> k dices?
[18:23] <llutz> Aled_: host your.server
[18:23] <rebe> dfdfvc
[18:23] <rebe> ds
[18:23] <rebe> f
[18:23] <rebe> dsf
[18:23] <rebe> çerfr
[18:23] <FloodBot2> rebe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:23] <rebe> egf
[18:23] <xangua> !es > rebe
[18:23] <fccf> Aled_: on the server type ifconfig into terminal
[18:23] <dari> cfghjk
[18:24] <rebe> hello xaunga
[18:24] <Aled_> fccf, thanks
[18:24] <DasEi1> madjoe: I really don't want to stop you, but it would be nice to hear if that was succesful, remastersys for custom-cd isn't new to me, but also nothing I'd call easy, and ( I don't want to read full article) how do you get it back on hd then ?
[18:24] <dari> hallo du dof
[18:25] <rebe> hello
[18:25] <DasEi1> !stop | dari
[18:25] <Industrial> Is there any way I can generate the xorg.conf file from the current settings? I need to make sure that it uses intel drivers and there being no xorg.conf I do not know where to look for that.
[18:25] <rebe> hello
[18:25] <DasEi1> Industrial: yes, open teminal
[18:25] <Industrial> yes? :P
[18:25] <rebe> whas your name?
[18:25] <madjoe> DasEi1: I just found out the solution.. didn't spend time to try it.. so, you say it's a hassle.. uhm... crap.
[18:26] <DasEi1> Industrial: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:26] <rebe> helloo
[18:26] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: yeah I have extras installed, I know gstreamer wanted to use pulseaudio, but with that removed (which worked btw) and gs-alsa installed instead surely it should start to use alsa
[18:26] <VCoolio> !hi | rebe
[18:26] <Industrial> DasEi1: what does that do exactly? :)
[18:26] <DasEi1> madjoe: I say I avoid wubi for several reasons, but always like to learn on
[18:26] <joeblob> sweet all i had to do was add i8042.reset to my grub.cfg
[18:26] <rebe> HI
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <rebe> hhi
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <rebe> hi
[18:26] <joeblob> i think... rebooting... i'll see if it works
[18:26] <xangua> rebe: do you have any ubuntu related question or did you kist come to troll¿
[18:27] <DasEi1> !ops | rebe
[18:27] <xangua> wenn not troll, my inglish is not in shape today :S
[18:27] <fccf> xangua: what is your default language?
[18:27] <xangua> fccf: spanish
[18:27] <DasEi1> Industrial: it's an automatism , that reads hardwareinfo and (re-)creates xorg.conf with basic settings
[18:27] <fccf> !es |xangua
[18:27] <xangua> fccf: .........
[18:27] <Industrial> DasEi1: okay nice
[18:27] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: any ideas, all the bad, good plugins are installed etc
[18:28] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: do you have the multimedia systems selector installed?
[18:28] <JeffMcBiscuit> the option is in system>pref yeah - it just opens gstreamer-properties
[18:29] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: ^
[18:29] <madjoe> DasEi1: Have you ever heard/tried this - http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html ?
[18:29] <fccf> xangua: please /join #ubuntu-es .. they will be happy to help you in espanol
[18:29] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: just looking and totem-gstreamer isn't installed though
[18:29] <Industrial> DasEi1: this gets me nothing actually. it doesnt generate a xorg.conf at all and I googled it to see what it looks like but I dont get a config menu, just my shell back.
[18:29] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: install it
[18:30] <xangua> fccf: the fact that my first languaje is spanish doesn't mean i can't help here, stop that please .........
[18:30] <oru_work> in ubuntu with postfix/dovecot, i need to forward everything from one email address to the other, how can I accoplish this ?
[18:30] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: fingers crossed, is there a rhythmbox-gstreamer too?! ;)
[18:30] <om26er> JeffMcBiscuit, its gstreamer
[18:30] <DasEi1> madjoe: again, I#m no friend of wubi and so not too familiar with it, did a few (nervig) rescues with it, the last link you found looks more promising to me
[18:31] <DJ_HaMsTa> im trying to install OpenVPN and i am very noobish, i have GADMIN-openVPN server and i am trying to configure the server settings and the user accounts. What should i enter for "The server runs as this user: / The server runs as this group? "
[18:31] <Aled_> I try: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop - "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily anavaliable)"
[18:31] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: Personally I don't like rhythmbox .. you might like Amaork better and it uses xine
[18:31] <Lostinspace_46> How do I upload a screenshot to pastbin?
[18:31] <DasEi1> Industrial: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (wath up, case-sensitiv)
[18:31] <fccf> !pastebin |Lostinspace_46
[18:31] <xangua> Lostinspace_46: imagebin, imageshack, etc....
[18:31] <Industrial> DasEi1: the file doesnt exist, should I touch it?
[18:32] <DasEi1> Lostinspace_46: use imageshack or similar
[18:32] <fccf> Lostinspace_46: see the second link ubottu gave you
[18:32] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: tried most of the media players, rb will do me fine (i switched to linux due to the look/scope of amarok years ago)... this is a friends box and I can honestly say I've never had much trouble on the audio front with linux, but trying to remove pulse and use alsa for multichannel surround is proving a pain in the backside
[18:32] <llutz> oru_work: use virtual_alias
[18:32] <Lostinspace_46> Got it. Thanks.
[18:33] <DasEi1> Industrial: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    << should be there after, sure no typos ?
[18:33] <kubanc> why isn't gimp 2.8 avalible for ubuntu 8.04?
[18:33] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: still no sounds
[18:33] <Industrial> DasEi1: yes, it just yields me the shell
[18:33] <oru_work> llutz, hmmm can you please be more specific? I've never done this before
[18:34] <llutz> oru_work: read postfix.org documentation about it
[18:34] <xangua> kubanc: because it uses old, but very stable,  packages; update to karmic¿
[18:34] <DasEi1> Industrial: if you run it a second time, shall also tell overwriting/backing up old one
[18:35] <Pici> kubanc: gimp 2.8 doesn't even exist.
[18:35] <Industrial> DasEi1: it doesnt seem to be doing anything, the file stays empty
[18:35] <DasEi1> Industrial: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:36] <kubanc> Pici, yes, sorry but i still cannot install gimp 2.7 under ubuntu 8.04 :'(
[18:36] <Guest28184> de los que hablan por aquí quien son de la linea
[18:36] <DasEi1> Industrial: (you can copy and paste from messenger to trml to avoid typos)
[18:36] <JeffMcBiscuit> brb
[18:36] <DasEi1> Industrial: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:37] <DasEi1> Industrial: give url from last cmd here
[18:37] <Industrial> DasEi1: I know how to open a file. its empty. the reconfigure isnt doing anything.
[18:37] <Industrial> as in, the program might be faulty
[18:37] <Industrial> I googled and it showed a menu
[18:37] <Industrial> I dont get a menu
[18:37] <Industrial> just my shell back
[18:37] <DasEi1> Industrial: which version of ubuntu are you running ? no x installed (unlikely) ?
[18:37] <Industrial> nu, standard 9.10
[18:37] <Industrial> on a Macbook 4,1
[18:37] <Industrial> no*
[18:38] <kubanc> what should i do:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:38] <kubanc>   gimp: Depends: gimp-data (< 2.4.6-z) but 2.6.6-1~getdeb1 is to be installed
[18:38] <kubanc>         Depends: libgimp2.0 (< 2.4.6-z) but 2.6.6-1~getdeb1 is to be installed
[18:38] <avemaria> hi deleted keyring package by mistake and now unable to boot ubuntu some garbled error message appears after grub
[18:38] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: I'm  stumped , audio is not my strong point when it comes to linux, however I am happy with stereo, so 5.1 would be a dream come true for most, not everything is 100%
[18:38] <DasEi1> Industrial: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:38] <avemaria> any help
[18:38] <fccf> !enter | Industrial
[18:39] <avemaria> anybody
[18:39] <Industrial> fccf: as if the joinquitspam doesnt grossly overspam it :p
[18:39] <LateralForce> If process A has niceness 5 and process B has niceness 0, will it matter if the niceness of process A is changed to 10 (relative to process B)?
[18:39] <avemaria> hi deleted keyring package by mistake and now unable to boot ubuntu some garbled error message appears after grub
[18:39] <fccf> industrial: If you are using pidgin, there is a plugin that turns off all join/part/quit's
[18:39] <jakiw_> How do I install Firefox 3.6 with Synaptic?
[18:40] <fccf> jakiw_: what version of ubuntu are you running , bleeding edge is not always the best bet, in fact it is commenly known to break things
[18:41] <xangua> jakiw_: use either 'ubuntuzilla' or 'firefox-stable ppa'
[18:41] <Industrial> fccf: that was more a complaint to the number of people in here more then anything
[18:41] <jakiw_> fccf i use 9.10 What do u mean by bleed edge?
[18:41] <avemaria> hi deleted keyring package by mistake and now unable to boot ubuntu some garbled error message appears after gru
[18:41] <Industrial> DasEi1: https://gist.github.com/55a3f6a4cbf8e8b03d6a
[18:41] <mgolisch> avemaria: what error message?
[18:42] <avemaria> mgolisch: cant read the error screen is all garbled/distorted
[18:43] <jakiw_> xangua it says package not found
[18:43] <mgolisch> avemaria: look at your dpkg.log and install the package(s) again
[18:43] <flamsmark> how do i import a .ssh key into the passwords and encryption keys program? whenever i try, i am told that the key is incompatible
[18:43] <avemaria> mgolish: how to log into text console
[18:43] <xangua> jakiw_: i said 'use' not 'install', google it
[18:43] <Industrial> DasEi1: you can see that its trying to use 4 display drivers or something :S
[18:43] <mgolisch> ctrl+alt+f1 then login there @ avemaria
[18:44] <mattgyver> Anyone know how to prevent a wine application from appearing in the "Wine System Tray" and just appear on the gnome panel?
[18:44] <mgolisch> or doenst it boot atall?
[18:44] <avemaria> mgolisch: i tried that it shows blank screen
[18:44] <xangua> jakiw_: ubuntuzilla and firefoz-stable ppa are extra repositories
[18:44] <avemaria> does not boot at all after selecting ubuntu from grub
[18:44] <mgolisch> avemaria: maybe try f2-f8 and see if any other console has something
[18:44] <mgolisch> oh i see
[18:44] <avemaria> just shows some error popup
[18:44] <fccf> jakiw_: ff 3.5.8 is the latest stable version ... if you want the absolutely newest (bleeding edge) use https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/+files/firefox-dbg_3.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu4~mfs~karmic1_i386.deb
[18:45] <jakiw_> xangua and whats the difference between them?
[18:45] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: still no joy after a session restart
[18:45] <edqnag> hi all
[18:45] <avemaria> mgolisch: nothing on f2-f8
[18:45] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: ugh, uh, IDK
[18:45] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: I get system sounds, which is strange but nothing from totem/rb
[18:45] <avemaria> i have a live CD can we rescue the system from it somehow
[18:46] <mgolisch> avemaria: probably
[18:46] <fccf> JeffMcBiscuit: Gstreamer is not setup properly ... or you are missing something
[18:46] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: no worries, I'm getting to the stage where I want to drop this nettop out of a very high open window
[18:46] <xangua> jakiw_: firefox-stable ppa is fro the official ubuntu-mozilla team and only contains firefox; ubuntuzilla contains the latest stable firefox, thunderbird and sunbird i think
[18:46] <avemaria> mgolisch:any idea how because the CD options does not shows any rescue option
[18:47] <jakiw_> fccf http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/ mozilla already gives u 3,6
[18:47] <edqnag> did anyone installed EVE Online on ubuntu and over what and does it work good?
[18:47] <fccf> jakiw_: that is not compiled for UBUNTU ... and not reccommended ... https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable is the one you want
[18:47] <mika_> hi, can you please check if --max-depth is autocompleted when used with du ? other options are completed, but that it's not..
[18:48] <mgolisch> avemaria: boot the cd, then mount your root filesystem and chroot into it
[18:48] <mika_> ((k)ubuntu 9.10)
[18:48] <mgolisch> avemaria: whats the exact name of the package(s) you removed?
[18:48] <avemaria> some keyring softwares
[18:48] <mgolisch> iam not quite sure why removing a package would render the system unbootable
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Edqnag: some online stuff recommend winetricks to help. Looks fine from here
[18:48] <JeffMcBiscuit> fccf: I've looked through and can't see anything that is untoward
[18:48] <avemaria> even i am wondering that
[18:49] <jakiw_> fccf So for whom is it compiled and made for?
[18:49] <avemaria> when i boot the CD i dont know how to get into text mode
[18:49] <edqnag> ActionParsnip do you have it installed?
[18:49] <mgolisch> avemaria: maybe start by booting the cd and looking for the dpkg.log on your root filesystem it will have the package names of the removed packages
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Edqnag: no, I rarely game at all
[18:49] <avemaria> okay
[18:49] <mgolisch> then maybe we can firue out whats wrong and why it doenst boot no more @ avemaria
[18:49] <fccf> jakiw_: source code... not compiled for anything, and alot of work to get working ... whereas the mozilla team has already compiled it at the link I gave you
[18:50] <macman_> hey all i always get an error when i open firefox http://i47.tinypic.com/el6tly.png
[18:50] <Cojage> sup
[18:50] <Cojage> What is the best usenet client for Linux?
[18:50] <llutz> !best | Cojage
[18:50] <edqnag> ActionParsnip i found few different explenations on google thats why im asking did anyone installed it and how is it going
[18:50] <JeffMcBiscuit> Cojage: lottanzb is pretty good
[18:50] <Cojage> thanks
[18:50] <jakiw_> fccf so the link i gave u was the source code?
[18:51] <cambazz> hello. how do I build a package myself
[18:51] <JeffMcBiscuit> Cojage: pan newsreader is also worth a shot, though a little harder to setup
[18:51] <fccf> jakiw_:  the link I gave was the deb installer ... the link you gave was source code
[18:51] <Cojage> oh ok
[18:51] <Cojage> ill try both
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Edqnag: then its safe to say its varied. Have a go, its free to try
[18:51] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: have you tried removing the ~/.mozilla folder to clear all your firefox settings?
[18:51] <edqnag> ActionParsnip sure ill try over wine
[18:51] <jakiw_> fccf So why dont they put the deb installer on their main page?
[18:52] <norbi> Hello.  Lets say I have two mounted nfs shares on my windows box from Linux.  When I copy a file to one of the nfs shares through windows, I want that file to also be duplicated automatically to the other nfs share.  Hope that makes sense.  Not sure what i'm looking for or where to begin, any help would be apretiated.
[18:52] <ujjain> There are 3 Swf players, which one is the best? Swfdefc, Gnash or Adobe?
[18:52] <JeffMcBiscuit> Cojage: I personally think lottanzb is going to be the best option though (i use both on different systems!)
[18:52] <Cojage> kewl
[18:52] <Cojage> and par application?
[18:52] <Cojage> quickpar isnt for linux rite
[18:52] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: i think .. i don't remember  i was tired .. here are teh details form that box http://pastie.org/842783
[18:52] <hannes815> can anyone explain to me, how to update bibus 1.4 to 1.5?
[18:53] <fccf> jakiw_: because firefox does not report the linux version to the website so it just gives the latest source for linux... using debs from trusted sources is the only way to easily install anything in ubuntu
[18:53] <edqnag> ActionParsnip thx
[18:53] <jdahm> how stable is 10.04 right now?
[18:53] <ujjain> The Ubuntu installer was only able to add 1 partition, what could be the reason? (multi-boot OS)
[18:54] <Pici> jdahm : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[18:54] <jakiw_> fccf and will the deb installer also be in the reposetories xangua told?
[18:54] <Dittohead> I have recently setup a couple of 9.10 x86 servers for some LAMP and zenoss duties. I've added a new source for zenoss, but it kicks back a 407 Proxy Authentication Required for the zenoss source. Strangely, the others work just fine. It doesn't seem to be making an attempt to authenticate on the zenoss source. Any ideas?
[18:54] <Industrial> is i possible to disable GDM in ubuntu and start the system from the commandline and start X with startx and a .Xinitrc?
[18:54] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: that means nothing to me... I referred to whether you had removed the folder in your home that is where the firefox setting are?  I'd back it up first to be on the safe side
[18:54] <avemaria> mgolisch: i installed it through live cd. So can i mount my old root partition through live environment?
[18:55] <fccf> jakiw_: yes, you will need to add the repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <conb123> Anyone know where the plugins for pidgin are located?
[18:55] <conb123> Ah nevermind found it
[18:55] <LucidGuy> How can I perform a grep where two patterns must be met.  "p1|p2" alone doesnt do the trick because thats more of a OR search, Im looking for an AND
[18:55] <fccf> Industrial: yes
[18:55] <ujjain> Does Ubuntu support LVM?
[18:55] <fccf> ujjain: yes
[18:56] <ujjain> I did not see it while installing...
[18:56] <Industrial> fccf: how :p
[18:56] <jakiw_> fccf  k, thx...do u know what the difference between thunderbird and mozilla-thunderbird in synaptic is?
[18:56] <kubanc> anybody knows where can i get  gimp-data  2.6.6-1~getdeb1
[18:56] <llutz> LucidGuy: us  grep pattern1|grep pattern2               grep has no AND option
[18:56] <fccf> Industrial: remove gdm ... you will boot to a terminal, login and startx
[18:56] <xangua> kubanc: from getdeb¿ :S
[18:57] <Take0n> Hello folks. I know this might be the wrong channel to ask about this, but I am running mpd on ubuntu karmic and although I am able to stream, it does stream in ogg instead of mp3. Now I found a patch (or plugin) but I don't know how to load. does anyone know?
[18:57] <Sara-25-sexy> hi
[18:57] <m_fulder> hello
[18:57] <Industrial> fccf: I cant just disable it?
[18:57] <fccf> kubanc: have you reloaded your repositories .. changes made on a daily basis to repos can break things, updating is the best way to resolve
[18:57] <xangua> !hi Sara-25-sexy / m_fulder
[18:58] <jakiw_> What is the difference between Thunderbird and mozilla-thunderbird package in Synaptic?
[18:58] <ujjain> How come Ubuntu cannot play mp3 by default?
[18:58] <LucidGuy> llutz, you sure, sounds like such a simple thing.
[18:58] <mgolisch> avemaria: yeah its probably even listed in the filebrowser, if not mount it using the mount command
[18:58] <trijntje> ujjain, legal stuf
[18:58] <ujjain> trijntje: dankje!
[18:58] <xangua> ujjain: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:58] <jrib> ujjain: legal issues.  Just double click on an mp3 and it should offer to install what you need
[18:58] <Hebram> ujjain:  licensing
[18:58] <kubanc> fccf, i yust did aptitude update, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and nothing worked...
[18:58] <m_fulder> I want to configure rtorrent so it adds my .torrent files automaticly: here's how I've written: http://pastebin.com/TD5KGrHV  still it doesn't add my files automaticly why??
[18:58] <fccf> Industrial: you could remove gdm from init.d
[18:58] <ujjain> I see :) ok, I thought it was on different distro's
[18:58] <ujjain> And Ubuntu wants to have only open software, unlike Kubuntu (which also has KDE + closed software)
[18:59] <jakiw_> ujjain which closed does kubuntu have?
[18:59] <narkgeek24> hi
[18:59] <AlienDK> KDE sucks
[18:59] <fccf> kubanc: now upgrade all of gimp
[18:59] <mgolisch> none
[18:59] <llutz> LucidGuy: maybe too simple for the authors. i don't know of any internal AND
[18:59] <mgolisch> :)
[18:59] <94SAAJN40> I need non admin users to execute a ruby script, I don't want them to be able to see where it is stored, where can I put it?
[18:59] <brunoscunha> since the last network manager update I lost the wired connection. It tries to connect but still I get no connection at all. I'm on a work lan. The wired connection worked flawlessly before the update
[18:59] <realbadapple> gnome is removing the ability to have icons in menus completely go to "http://poll.fm/1n2n1" and vote to get it back.
[18:59] <kubanc> xangua, sorry, but getdeb doesn't find anything
[19:00] <kubanc> fccf, how do i do that. what command?
[19:00] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: I don't understand that requirement
[19:00] <om26er> realbadapple, the removing of icon bring a consistent feel
[19:00] <avemaria> mggolisch: can we install packges to my old ubuntu from live environment?
[19:00] <narkgeek24> i am trying to download the 64 bit versipon of ubuntu for some reason though when i selected 64 bit its downloading the amd version is there no 64 bit version for intel?
[19:00] <Myrtti> narkgeek24: that should work on intel too
[19:00] <mgolisch> avemaria: yeah mount root filesystem, chroot, run apt-get in the chroot env
[19:00] <Myrtti> narkgeek24: amd64 is a legacy name for 64-bit OS
[19:00] <git__> hi
[19:00] <narkgeek24> i see
[19:01] <Hebram> narkgeek24: amd *is* x64
[19:01] <git__> has anyone try bsdiff on an iso file?
[19:01] <narkgeek24> kind of confusing though
[19:01] <justin22885> when i open an sh script, whats the program that runs the script?
[19:01] <jrib> justin22885: what do you mean by "open"?
[19:01] <fccf> kubanc: use synaptic, find gimp . . right click and mark for upgrade
[19:01] <brunoscunha> justin22885: you mean to run it?
[19:01] <justin22885> yes
[19:01] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: i think i removed it
[19:01] <Myrtti> justin22885: whatever you've set your default terminal application to be
[19:01] <Hebram> jrib:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software
[19:02] <Myrtti> justin22885: probably gnome-terminal if you're using Ubuntu
[19:02] <[FcS]FrAnCiScO[F> hola
[19:02] <brunoscunha> justin22885: I believe it's ./and the name of the program
[19:02] <jrib> Hebram: why are you linking me this?
[19:02] <[FcS]FrAnCiScO[F> bvghvhgvhgvb
[19:02] <Myrtti> !es | [FcS]FrAnCiScO[F
[19:02] <xangua> !es | [FcS]FrAnCiScO[F:
[19:02] <Phurl> histo i got it all running
[19:02] <Phurl> a loopback
[19:02] <94SAAJN40> I need non admin users to execute a ruby script, I don't want them to be able to see where it is stored, where can I put it?, I see non admin users can list /
[19:02] <realbadapple> om26er: that is fine if they don't want it as the default but most people want the icons just look at the poll results so far, and they are not just turning them off they are removing the ability to reenable them in the next release
[19:02] <justin22885> when i run the script under lxde it looks vastly different than when i ran it under gnome
[19:03] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: did you back it up?  it is where all your firefox settings/plugins/extensions/bookmarks are stored
[19:03] <om26er> realbadapple, when those voters will try it without icons in real that number will change
[19:03] <Hebram> jrib:  Didn't you inquire what open software was?
[19:03] <realbadapple> om26er: 82% of people want the ability of turning the icons back on
[19:03] <jrib> Hebram: no, I asked justin22885 what he meant by it
[19:04] <Hebram> jrib:  Misunderstood -)
[19:04] <justin22885> why would the script itself look different under lxde than ubuntu?
[19:04] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: probably not .. how do i fix this if you don't mind
[19:04] <jrib> Hebram: no problem, just wasn't sure if it was a mistba
[19:04] <jrib> mistab*
[19:04] <jrib> justin22885: "look" how?  visual appearance?
[19:04] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: fix what? losing your firefox settings or the firefox error?
[19:04] <94SAAJN40> I need non admin users to execute a ruby script, I don't want them to be able to see where it is stored, where can I put it?, I see non admin users can list /
[19:05] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: why do you want this?  You need to provide more details
[19:05] <fccf> 94SAAJN40: put the script in your $PATH
[19:05] <mgolisch> 94SAAJN40: they cantcute it if they cant see/read it anyways, whats the purpose of that?
[19:05] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: we can possibly get your settings back depending on how you removed/deleted them... please explain exactly what you did
[19:05] <mgolisch> ex
[19:05] <DarkSpirit> How can I do an unattended network install of Ubuntu, from Ubuntu Server?
[19:06] <brunoscunha> is it possible to roolback an update ?
[19:06] <mgolisch> avemaria: got the filesystem mounted? or do you need help?
[19:06] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: dose'nt matter i have bookmarks backed up
[19:06] <ujjain> How do I use LVM and Ubuntu? The installer of Ubuntu does not have the option... of a LVM filesystem. I have a dual-boot system with Windows 7 and am currently on a 20gb paretition, but need LVM to create multiple partitions.
[19:06] <tecnico>  	/msg OvF|A|Ciocori XDCC SEND #3
[19:07] <jdahm> does the server install install networkmanager?
[19:07] <fccf> brunoscunha: yes, the debs are archived in /var/cache/apt/archive
[19:07] <mgolisch> ujjain: iam sure it does, the alternate installer atleast
[19:07] <oranosx> hey guys, can anyone tell me how I can get Plymouth running on my Karmic box?
[19:07] <ujjain> mgolisch: Hmm,, that's the tiny 10mb installer?
[19:07] <avemaria> i need help cant get it mounted
[19:07] <mgolisch> no its the textbased install iso
[19:07] <avemaria> live cd says no rescue option available
[19:08] <94SAAJN40> so there is no way to have non admin users see a dir and at the same time they can execute a ruby script from that dir?
[19:08] <exalt> how do i check my disk fckh /dev/sda/ ?
[19:08] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: then my advice is to do the following.... cd ~/ && mv .mozilla .mozilla_backup
[19:08] <raj__>  Guys did they resolve his annoying bug in HDA cards where u can only hear sound from 1 source only??? its bugging me to hell :( .. pulseaudio should die.. its making asudio on my system (laptop) a living hell.. i cannot open any music player/ vodeo player while im on youtube/ flash site with sound..
[19:08] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: "see a dir" is vauge.
[19:08] <jrib> vague too
[19:08] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: then launch firefox to see what happens
[19:08] <mgolisch> 94SAAJN40: whats exactly is the purpose of that?
[19:09] <Phurl> histo, http://fmtyewtk.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-setup-chroot-on-vfat-filesystem.html
[19:09] <Phurl> i did a writeup
[19:09] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: jsut rm -r .mozilla ?
[19:09] <ujjain> Does the normal Ubuntu installer have no LVM option?
[19:09] <94SAAJN40> ok lets say I have a wxruby script that I want all users be able to execute from a menu item, but i dont want them to be able to see the directory where the script is
[19:09] <mgolisch> ujjain: no idea didnt use it in years
[19:10] <JeffMcBiscuit> 94SAAJN40: I would have thought you could have sudo chmod 000 the folder but make the script inside that folder executable by said user
[19:10] <fccf> !lvm | ujjain
[19:10] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: what do you mean by "see the directory"?  You mean list the contents?  Or do you mean know what the path is? Or what exactly?
[19:10] <hannes815> howto: install bibus 1.5.x on ubuntu 9.10
[19:10] <justin22885> which program does gnome use to execute an sh script that has a popup window on it?
[19:10] <94SAAJN40> list the contents i want to avoid it
[19:10] <ujjain> I am scared of losing Windows data.
[19:10] <jrib> justin22885: whatever the script's first line tells it to.
[19:10] <justin22885> well on lxde it comes up as xmessage
[19:11] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: don't give them read permissions on the directory then
[19:11] <semioticrobotic> Could someone tell me how to backup my OpenPGP keys before doing a fresh install of Karmic?
[19:11] <JeffMcBiscuit> macman_: if you run my script it will do the correct thing, yours will only work if you cd to the home folder
[19:11] <mgolisch> ujjain: why exactly do you need lvm?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Ujjain: you should have backups then
[19:11] <jrib> semioticrobotic: backup your ~/.gnupg/
[19:11] <ujjain> I already have 3 partitions and I can only create one more partition.
[19:11] <brunoscunha> since the last network manager update I lost the wired connection. It tries to connect but still I get no connection at all. I'm on a work lan.
[19:11] <ujjain> I already run Windows 7, and 2 other NTFS partition.
[19:11] <94SAAJN40> can i just give them execute permissions without giving them read permisisions ans still have the sript be able to be executed?
[19:11] <ujjain> and the Ubuntu installer only allows me to add 1 extra partition
[19:11] <JeffMcBiscuit> 94SAAJN40: chmod 000 means that only root can view the contents of the dir
[19:11] <semioticrobotic> jrib: Is that all?
[19:11] <jrib> semioticrobotic: yep
[19:12] <cebep> #ubunturu
[19:12] <raj__>  Guys did they resolve his annoying bug in HDA cards where u can only hear sound from 1 source only??? its bugging me to hell :( .. pulseaudio should die.. its making asudio on my system (laptop) a living hell.. i cannot open any music player/ vodeo player while im on youtube/ flash site with sound..
[19:12] <ryan_ddn> ujjain: you need to make an extended partition instead of a primary.  Then other partitions go inside of it.
[19:12] <ujjain> I want 1 swap, 1 /boot ext4, 1 / ext4
[19:12] <ujjain> I can only create 1 extra partition with the Ubuntu installer.
[19:12] <semioticrobotic> jrip: Well, that's much simpler than I thought.  I don't need to "export" or anything with Ubuntu's built-in tool?
[19:12] <94SAAJN40> JeffMcBiscuit: so then chmod 000 could be executed by others? and not listed by them?
[19:12] <ujjain> I could pick logical and primary, not extended.
[19:12] <llutz> 94SAAJN40: no
[19:13] <macman_> JeffMcBiscuit: same error
[19:13] <94SAAJN40> so then where should i store this script so that it can be executed by others than root but not be able to list or read it?
[19:13] <BluesKaj-Laptop> raj__, then purge pulseaudio, you don't really need it anyway..it's just a redundant sound server riding on top of alsa
[19:13] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: anywhere.  Just don't give them read permissions on the directory
[19:14] <llutz> 94SAAJN40: you cannot, if user can execute it, they can read it
[19:14] <JeffMcBiscuit> 94SAAJN40: no, I thought you want users to be able to execute a file but not read the directorys contents where the file is stored?
[19:14] <llutz> 94SAAJN40: maybe using ACLs, not sure
[19:14] <jrib> semioticrobotic: no, though that is probably an alternative
[19:14] <ryan_ddn> ujjain: gparted livecd... :)
[19:14] <oranosx> can anyone help me mount a partition with full permisions?
[19:14] <mgolisch> 94SAAJN40: whats exactly is this about? doenst ruby save the byecode like python does? you could remove the cleartext sript then, if its just about not haveing them see the contents of the script
[19:14] <ujjain> ryan_ddn: Other distro's can do this in the installer themselves, it's quite risky.
[19:14] <JeffMcBiscuit> 94SAAJN40: chmod 000 blocks users from reading/writing/exectuing or even _viewing_ a directory and it's contents
[19:14] <mleger> Hello: I was wondering if anyone could quickly explain to me what does the "install release" menu item under "administration" used for in ubuntu karmic (or any other version for that matter)?
[19:14] <94SAAJN40> ruby has no bytecode
[19:14] <jrib> mgolisch: my understanding is he doesn't want users to list directory contents where the script resides.  Is that right 94SAAJN40 ?
[19:15] <fccf> ujjain: you can't have more than 4 primary partitions, if you have windows on the drive then part of ubuntu will need to exist inside an extended partition which you cannot create if you already have 4 parititions
[19:15] <llutz> JeffMcBiscuit: and 000 prevents contents of dir from being executed, so what should that help?
[19:15] <94SAAJN40> yes i only want users to be able to execute the script but not able to list the directory where the script is
[19:15] <ujjain> fccf: I have currently 3 Windows partitions and now installed Ubuntu on / ext4, that's the 4rd partition.
[19:15] <fccf> !fstab | oranosx ... read this stuff, we are not babysitters
[19:15] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: I've told you the solution twice now
[19:16] <ujjain> fccl: I can reinstall Ubuntu if necessary, but other distro's dont require Gparted e..g. to use LVM, so why would Ubuntu.
[19:16] <semioticrobotic> jrib: I tried something like that earlier, but it did not transfer properly.  I had to make a new key.  For some reason, the private key did not transfer
[19:16] <oranosx> fccf: Thanks, but there is no need for that sort of tone.
[19:16] <JeffMcBiscuit> llutz: can you not set the dir to 000 and then make _a_specific_file_ exectuable by a group/user
[19:16] <jrib> semioticrobotic: well test it then :)
[19:16] <jrib> semioticrobotic: (it does work though)
[19:16] <raj__> blueKaj-laptop: i really dont wanna lose my volume controls and my fancy apps .. i have alot of things that reply on pulse audio.... :S it really sucks that asound is no longer an option.. they sould bring back asound.... !!! i love asound in ubuntu 9.04
[19:16] <llutz> JeffMcBiscuit: you won't have acess to anything inside the 000-dir
[19:16] <jrib> JeffMcBiscuit: you need the directory to be executable
[19:16] <fccf> ujjain: then you are extremly limited in what you can do... put /boot on a primary copy non-bootable windows drives to extended to free up the other space for primary parititions
[19:16] <mleger> Hello: I was wondering if anyone could quickly explain to me what does the "install release" menu item under "administration" used for in ubuntu karmic (or any other version for that matter)?
[19:16] <raj__> bluesKaj-laptop: i really dont wanna lose my volume controls and my fancy apps .. i have alot of things that reply on pulse audio....   Thanks.
[19:17] <ujjain> fccf: LVM would solve this?
[19:17] <llutz> JeffMcBiscuit: 000 means no read, no write, no access for anyone
[19:17] <JeffMcBiscuit> llutz: but root
[19:17] <llutz> but root
[19:17] <BluesKaj-Laptop> raj__,then try jack, check it out
[19:17] <JeffMcBiscuit> well, forget that idea then 94********
[19:17] <llutz> root isn't anyone :)
[19:18] <JeffMcBiscuit> root is lord of the ring
[19:18] <fccf> ujjain: unlikely, as you already have windows paritions on the drive, LVM is for using multiple drives as one (i.e. JBOD - Just a bunch of drives)
[19:18] <ZaNDeR`Z> what smart D1200P always not responding modem for ubuntu 9.10 ????
[19:18] <94SAAJN40> jrib: right so then from which directory should i store it so that it can't be executed by non admin users?
[19:18] <ujjain> fccf: And creating partitions over LVM space, so I would not have this problem.
[19:19] <sayat> hai
[19:19] <jrib> 94SAAJN40: (again) any directory.  Just don't give the users read permissions on the directory
[19:19] <avemaria>  mgolisch: cant get it :(
[19:19] <JeffMcBiscuit> 94SAAJN40: can't you just use permissions and groups to choose who you want to access and execute it?!
[19:19] <94SAAJN40> jrib: ok great THANKS A LOT :-)
[19:19] <flamsmark> can i create a symbolic link for a directory?
[19:19] <raj__> i have been experimenting with jack. so far its not doing so well on the HDA card.. its not giving application priorities in a right way. say you have two apps open.. one will play while the other will play with skipping and scratching noises .. i have no idea why jack does that..
[19:19] <94SAAJN40> JeffMcBiscuit: right i will try that out and come back, THANKS A LOT !!:-)
[19:20] <milan_> ahoj cz
[19:20] <fccf> ujjain: I think you are a little confused, LVM won't solve your problem ... reccommend creating a new partition NTFS on an extended partition prior to installing ubuntu ... copy non-bootable windows data to the extended partition, freeing up space for 2(minimum) primary partitions for linux
[19:20] <JeffMcBiscuit> flamsmark: yes.  right click the dir and select Make Link
[19:20] <milan_> jak je
[19:20] <llutz> jrib: that won't work either
[19:20] <jrib> llutz: why not?
[19:20] <milan_> sudo
[19:20] <flamsmark> thanks, JeffMcBiscuit
[19:20] <llutz> jrib: i would have expected it to work, but it doesn't (here)
[19:21] <jrib> llutz: it does, can you pastebin what you did?
[19:21] <mgolisch> avemaria: hm, its not that hard usualy, i can try to guide you through that if you want
[19:21] <brunoscunha> I need help. I've lost the wired connection after the latest NM update. How can I getb it back?
[19:22] <fccf> brunoscunha: sudo ifup eth0
[19:22] <mgolisch> avemaria: unless you didnt do much with that ubuntu install yet, then a reinstall would probably be easier
[19:22] <llutz> jrib: "sudo chmod -r /usr/local/bin"   and my user still can execute scripts from there AND list them (cat $(which script))
[19:22] <maria6A> ola
[19:22] <maria6A> amigos vengo en son de paz
[19:22] <maria6A> olaaaaa
[19:22] <fccf> !es | maria6A
[19:22] <maria6A> ola
[19:23] <jrib> llutz: right.  but 94SAAJN40 just doesn't want your user to be able to do « ls /usr/local/bin » (which you shouldn't be able to)
[19:23] <brunoscunha> fccf: it says it's already configure. The problem it just does not connect to my work network. It just stays there
[19:23] <maria6A> hello
[19:23] <xangua> !hi | maria6A
[19:23] <BluesKaj-Laptop> raj, it's not jack, it's pulseaudio adding another layer of processing to the sound that's what is causing the dropouts and distortion
[19:23] <mgolisch> why not? directory listing needs execute
[19:23] <llutz> jrib: ups, sorry then i misread him
[19:23] <fccf> brunoscunha: perhaps a reboot?
[19:23] <maria6A> k decis no entiendo+
[19:23] <xangua> !es > maria6A
[19:24] <maria6A> no entiendo naa xao
[19:24] <maria6A> drdrd
[19:24] <fccf> !pt | maria6A
[19:24] <llutz>  20:13   BluesKaj-Laptop: raj__, then purge pulseaudio, you don't really need it anyway..it's just a redundant sound server riding on top of alsa 20:13   jrib: 94SAAJN40:
[19:24] <brunoscunha> fccf: already did that serveral times and still no luck. The wired connection was working perfectley before the update
[19:24] <maria6A> papiu
[19:24] <maria6A> papau
[19:25] <xangua> fccf: well obvouusly you are bad diferencng latin derivated languages :S
[19:25] <llutz> jrib: reads different for me: 20:13 94SAAJN40: so then where should i store this script so that it can be executed by others than root but not be able to list or read it?
[19:25] <jrib> llutz: I know, he was vague, so I asked him to clarify :)
[19:25] <fccf> brunoscunha: sounds like conflicting versions... do complete removal of gnome-network-manager and reinstall
[19:26] <brunoscunha> fccf: going to try that now. Thank you
[19:26] <fccf> xangua: I tried es ... when that fails I go to portuguese, when that fails ... Chinese???
[19:26] <llutz>  i will have to fix my touchpad-copy/paste :(
[19:30] <kazoo> !vsftpd | kazoo
[19:30] <kazoo> !vsftp | kazoo
[19:30] <kazoo> fail
[19:30] <kazoo> oh well
[19:32] <rrto> Hey all. I am running vanilla 2.6.33 and for some reason the NVIDIA driver install exists with "unable to find kernel version included in ..." etc. This has never happened before. As I configured and built from source, this error shouldn't be happening. Has this happened to anyone else?
[19:34] <fccf> rrto: if you built the nvidia driver from source, assuming the opensource version, you also need to compile the nvidia module into the kernel. Good Luck!!!
[19:37] <macman_> how do i remove firefox ?
[19:37] <macman_> apt-get remove firefox worked but not really
[19:38] <AlienDK> apt-get autoremove firefox
[19:38] <fccf> macman_: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox will remove all files associated with firefox
[19:38] <AlienDK> hmm
[19:38] <AlienDK> that'll prolly work too :P
[19:38] <AlienDK> but why would you remove firefox? o.O
[19:38] <Darwin4Ever> Hi, I'm using eeebuntu and would like to scp/putty into that machine, but always get an network error. Any ideas ?
[19:38] <areay> exit
[19:39] <blakkheim> Darwin4Ever: idea: give us the error
[19:39] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, you have to install a ssh server
[19:39] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, ubuntu comes woth no ssh server. You  can get one with sudo aptitude install ssh
[19:39] <kaji> hey folks =, is there a channel specifically for UNR or can I get help here?
[19:40] <fccf> Darwin4Ever: sftp://user@host  in nautilus is the easy way... also install openssh-server on the server you are connecting to
[19:40] <fccf> kaji: UNR help here
[19:40] <Darwin4Ever> Nitsuga : ok, thought it was standard installed on it
[19:40] <fccf> Darwin4Ever: the client is .. the server is not
[19:40] <AlienDK> no vpn support by default
[19:40] <usuari3> ffff
[19:40] <AlienDK> LAME
[19:41] <usuari3> hola que tal
[19:41] <kaji> Sweet, I'm trying to get a touchscreen working in UNR. It's a fujitsu lifebook p1510d
[19:41] <usuari3> hay alguien aqui
[19:41] <AlienDK> and why woun't Ubuntu auto update to FF 3.6? I have to do it manually :S.
[19:41] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, Ubuntu has a no-open-ports-by-default policy
[19:41] <kaji> I found a forum post with a script to get it working under hardy, but it failed spectacularly.
[19:41] <Darwin4Ever> Nitsuga :  ?
[19:41] <Nitsuga> that way the don't have to activate the firewall by default
[19:41] <brunoscunha> fccf: no luck, i'm still unable to connect or get connection to the wired network
[19:41] <Darwin4Ever> have to open it ?
[19:42] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, The default Ubuntu doesn't have any service open to he network
[19:42] <blakkheim> Darwin4Ever: it sounds like you need to read an ssh server tutorial
[19:42] <Myrtti> AlienDK: Ubuntu isn't a rolling release distro and versions with new features are not put to versions of ubuntu already released.
[19:42] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, you don't have to. Ubuntu has no firewall activated
[19:42] <Nitsuga> Darwin4Ever, just install the ssh server and you are done
[19:43] <Darwin4Ever> blakkheim : : my only linux experience is IPCOP, and on that one I didn't have to do anythinh to use it
[19:44] <kaji> I think my request got buried in login/out spam :<
[19:44] <Darwin4Ever> but now I know in what direction to go, thx !!!
[19:44] <blakkheim> Darwin4Ever: if you're so new, why do you want to use ssh?
[19:44] <fccf> Darwin4Ever: run "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" on the server and you are good to go
[19:45] <datacrusher> hello everyone, is there some alternative to gnome or kde like gpedit.msc on windows?
[19:45] <blakkheim> fccf: good to use, but not very well secured
[19:45] <Darwin4Ever> blakkheim : : because I want to transfer packages (scp) and install them on the box (putty)
[19:45] <Myrtti> datacrusher: several. xfce4, lxde, icewm, e17 etc.
[19:45] <fccf> blakkheim: if you use a fingerprint it is more secure than a bank vault
[19:46] <Dan48p> which file are you supposed to edit to change the default boot settings in grub2?
[19:46] <jrib> !grub2 > Dan48p
[19:46] <blakkheim> fccf: using password authentication on the default port with the default ciphers is secure? it can be locked down a lot better if you take the time to learn to properly configure it
[19:46] <Michalxo> !grub2
[19:46] <kaji> !touchscreen
[19:47] <etsorbme8> ! elo
[19:48] <fccf> blakkheim: like creating a RSA/DSA Fingerprint which gets copied to the client... extremly secure... whereas, on an internal network, (provided no DMZ) it is secure because the router will not allow packets to the port from outside the internal network,
[19:48] <kaji> Is anyone familiar with getting touchscreens working in UNR?
[19:49] <Machisuji> Hey, it's probably a stupid question: But how do I add a program to the start menu? I have a sh file which starts a program and if I write "/bin/sh .../program.sh" in the terminal everything works fine, however, when I write that as the command for the menu entry nothing happens when I click it.
[19:49] <hannes815> hi I downloaded the bibus 1.5 tar.gz, how can I install that?
[19:49] <blakkheim> !compile > hannes815
[19:50] <Nitsuga> Machisuji, did you gave it execute permissions or you are running it witj $sh "sile.sh" ?
[19:50] <Dan48p> so if you set the grub default "by name" rather than by number, it will not matter if the number changes and the desired default boot option moves down the list?  like when extra kernels are added?
[19:50] <Machisuji> I try to run it with /bin/sh
[19:51] <tpdd> is it possible to setup a samba share and allow a windows xp client to modify rights and add users to the share while part of a domain?
[19:51] <Machisuji> It already has execution permissions, though.
[19:51] <male37> hi
[19:52] <flamsmark> how do i use an ssh key stored in, and generated by the password & encryption keys manager?
[19:52] <male37> any one from malta here?
[19:52]  * kaji prods around for someone familiar with touchscreens in UNR
[19:52] <Pure> Hey
[19:53] <Nitsuga> Machisuji, make sure that the script has a hashbang #!/bin/bash ant the very begginning and set it executable with chmod +x file.sh
[19:53] <fccf> kaji: some expierence, what ts hardware do you have?
[19:53] <hannes815> blakkenheim: could you explain to me how that would work, I don't understand the insturctions http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=sHk&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=bibus+1.5+compile&btnG=Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[19:53] <Nitsuga> Machisuji, then you will be able to put it as the command, alone without /bin/sh
[19:53] <Machisuji> Nitsuga: Thank you, I will try it.
[19:54] <kaji> fccf: It'sthe touchsceen built into a lifebook p2520d, if that's what you mean
[19:54] <fccf> kaji: would you pastebin you lspci output please?
[19:54] <Machisuji> Nitsuga: The file starts with #!/bin/sh does it make any difference?
[19:55] <kaji> sec
[19:55] <Pici> at]
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[19:55] <Pici> 14:50:37 >>>> Pentode (~axe@unaffiliated/pentode) has quit [Quit: leaving]
[19:55] <FloodBot1> Pici: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <Pure> I was wondering, is there a terminal services client for unbuntu, that can be run from CLI?
[19:57] <kaji> fccf: http://pastebin.com/tHcxG8Y0
[19:57] <fccf> tpdd: no, and yes... you will need to setup an LDAP server on the XP client and an LDAP client on the linux box ... will prove to be a big chore... and way out of my expertise
[19:58] <fccf> kaji: lsusb please
[19:59] <tpdd> thanks fccf that helps, i guess I cant replace my windows server after all ... maybe next year
[19:59] <Pure> I was wondering, is there a terminal services client for unbuntu, that can be run from CLI?
[19:59] <jazz> is anyone having trouble with f-stop photo viewer? after it opens it turns off straight away
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: launch it from terminal
[20:00] <kaji> fccf: http://pastebin.com/SxJkak4E
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: see if you get useful output
[20:00] <jazz> ActionParsnip,  one sec
[20:00] <Pure> Am I getting ignored, or does know one konw?
[20:00] <surf> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 on an ASUS UL50 vg. The problem here is that I always have both cpus 100% because of the crazy udevd --daemon. Any idea?
[20:00] <LucidGuy> Simple question: What exactly does the line entry "range dynamic-bootp" within dhcpd.conf mean.  Is this where you specify an IP range that will be assigned to hosts that do not have fixed mac address assigned ips?
[20:00] <jazz> ActionParsnip,  whats the coommand for it?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: f-spot
[20:01] <tpdd> pure i run rdesktop from the cli
[20:01] <nevin> Pure: tried tsclient?
[20:01] <Pure> tpdd, I don't use Ubuntu, we just made a TS server for our school, and was theorising about replacing all our windows clients with linux
[20:02] <surf> I start the note and suddenly I hear the fan going crazy. Cpus 100% because of udevd --daemon
[20:02] <jazz> ActionParsnip,  same results opens the window then closes it
[20:02] <HTC> Unrecoverable playback error: Unknown error code (0x80070057) on foobar2000 ?
[20:02] <HTC> :(
[20:02] <HTC> Output problem
[20:02] <fccf> kaji: I am not seeing your hardware (i.e. The Chip that controls the touchscreen hardware) in those lists, which generally means it isn't there, ... did it work when it had windows on it?
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: yes but any output in the terminal at all?
[20:02] <kaji> yep.
[20:02] <Pure> Unfortunatly, I don't have a copy of Ubuntu to test it on.  It's all theory right now, so I can propose it as an idea
[20:03] <ale_> er8wyrytyuwetwytwrytuyt7y27tyuyeuiyqtyr4tyuiyufyutyufuhyuyturytwtyytuyhfuytur
[20:03] <tpdd> pure rdesktop is a decent program, there is a gui version as well but im not familiar with it, i think its just a wrapper for rdesktop
[20:03] <jazz> ActionParsnip,  oh yeah i got text
[20:03] <r00t-Ed> how would it be the correct way to request that a kernel patch (ipmisenseors) be added to the distribution? brainstorm, launchpad, bug report? it is not a new package but a kernel patch
[20:03] <kaji> fccf: everything i've been able ti find says it works through a serial port
[20:03] <ale_> soys unos tontos
[20:03] <Pure> Does it support drive sharing and such?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: websearch some of the text
[20:03] <Romeo> Hello
[20:04] <ale_> que te calles
[20:04] <Pici> r00t-Ed: Ask in #ubuntu-kernel  , likely you'll end up filing a bug against the 'linux' package.
[20:04] <surf> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 on an ASUS UL50 vg. The problem here is that I always have both cpus 100% because of the crazy udevd --daemon. Any idea?
[20:04] <Romeo> How can I re-install WUBI ?
[20:04] <nevin> tsclient is a wrapper for rdesktop, vnc, etc..
[20:04] <xangua> !es | ale_
[20:04] <hapt1K> hi all im trying to install libudev-dev but am getting the error: Couldn't find package libudev-dev - i know it should exist
[20:04] <r00t-Ed> thanks Pici
[20:04] <jazz> ActionParsnip,  thanks - im still learning the  ins and outs of the termianal yet
[20:04] <LinuxGuy2009> Does Adobe flash 10 plugin work on 64bit installation of 8.04.4 LTS?
[20:04] <Pure> I'm new to the TS scene, I was just shown it today
[20:04] <ale_> tonto
[20:04] <ale_> todos
[20:04] <Romeo> How can I re-install WUBI ? I already have Ubuntu install on a separate partition. But Windows loader took over after Windows re-install.
[20:05] <siropio> hi there.could you suggest me an application like moviemaker? i want for example to make a video of a split screen in two
[20:05] <Pure> Could I remove all but the requiered packages, leaving just the bare requirments?
[20:05] <Romeo> Please help
[20:05] <kaji> fccf: any thoughts?
[20:05] <ale_> hablar en español so idiotas
[20:05] <macman_> fixed my firefox issue by googeling http://pastie.org/842926
[20:05] <b3b456de_> @siropio avidemux
[20:05] <blakkheim> !es | ale_
[20:05] <brunoscunha> fccf: no matter what I do, still can't get wired network connection on
[20:06] <ale_> vale
[20:06] <ale_> cabron
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Jazz: np its all good :)
[20:06] <kaji> in case anyone is curious, ale is being vulgar
[20:06] <surf> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 on an ASUS UL50 vg. The problem here is that I always have both cpus 100% because of the crazy udevd --daemon. Any idea?
[20:07] <brunoscunha> kaji: yes, I have noticed
[20:07] <LinuxGuy2009> I have a Dell Mini 10v netbook that obviously requires 32bit install. But Im wondering if I should bother installing the 64bit version on my desktop quad-core machine or just stick with the same 32bit disc?
[20:07] <fccf> kaji: I have ubuntu on an older lifebook ... are you using the fujitsu-laptop module at boottime on your grub line ... this might fix something... however I don't know if the touchscreen will come up ... worth a try?
[20:08] <fccf> brunoscunha: does it have a wireless connection?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Linuxguy2009: how much ram do you have?
[20:08] <scibbo80> ciao
[20:08] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: 2GB on both systems.
[20:08] <scibbo80> lista!
[20:09] <fccf> LinuxGuy2009: stick with 32 bit
[20:09] <LinuxGuy2009> K thanks guys.
[20:09] <kaji> fccf: I have no idea, but i'm probably not, it's a fresh install. Walk me through it?
[20:09] <Pure> Is drive sharing possible in rdesktop?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Linuxguy2009: then both are fine. If you do lots of data transforming, 64bit will help
[20:09] <brunoscunha> fccf: well right know i'm using vodafone wireless. But connecting to a wireless network i'm sure. I'm still at work and don't have any available wireless networks
[20:09] <scibbo80> explosion
[20:09] <Refried_> sorry for crosspost, but... i'm trying to run lucid in a chroot, and i'm having a weird problem — sudo is saying "can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied", but the permission is 0440 root:root.  i tried running strace sudo but didn't see any clues.   any ideas?
[20:09] <AlienDK> 64bit is awesome!
[20:09] <hapt1K> why
[20:09] <brunoscunha> fccf: I mean I'm not sure
[20:09] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: data transforming? You mean like media encoding music and video etc?
[20:09] <B3rz3rk3r> Pure, yes
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Linuxguy2009: exactly, and video stuff
[20:10] <Pure> I think rdesktop would do the job nicely
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Aliendk: why is it awesome
[20:10] <Pure> Would ubuntu be the best descision if I need a thin OS?
[20:11] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip:  I do actually use HandBrake to encode my DVDs. But Im not sure, does the application have to be made in a certain way to take advantage of that?
[20:11] <siropio> @b3b456de_ thanks :)
[20:11] <guntbert> !lucid | Refried_
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Pure: puppy or ubuntu+lxde are good for thin and fast
[20:11] <Pure> lxde?
[20:11] <Refried_> ubottu: ok thanks
[20:11] <brunoscunha> fccf: I found an unprotected wireless network and can't connect to it
[20:11] <Refried_> ubottu: i'll come back if i retry with karmic ;)
[20:11] <brunoscunha> damn NM update
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Linuxguy2009: if your install is 64bit you will install 64bit handbrake by default
[20:12] <fccf> brunoscunha: is this a new install? or do you have a bunch of data you cannot afford to loose?
[20:12] <sj4m35-15> does anyone know the virtualbox channel?
[20:12] <kaji> fccf: the only useful post I could find about the touchscreen was - http://tinyurl.com/yzggudf (and I don't know how to do the fujitsu laptop module)
[20:12] <fccf> sj4m35-15: #vbox
[20:12] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks.
[20:12] <brunoscunha> fccf: no it'snot
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Pure: its a slim and fast de, I use it instead of gnome
[20:12] <mod> is there an ubuntu support channel for sysadmins?
[20:12] <Mabel> hola
[20:12] <hapt1K> ActionParsnip, screenshot?
[20:12] <brunoscunha> fccf: and also have a bunch of data I can't afford to loose
[20:12] <Refried_> guntbert: ok i'll come back if i retry with karmic
[20:12] <guntbert> mod: maybe you want #ubuntu-server - else you are welcome here
[20:13] <mod> guntbert, thanks
[20:13] <guntbert> Refried_: ok
[20:13] <rakslice__> In a preseed install, is there an easy way to customize the text of install screens? Right now I'm thinking I'll have to patch individual udeb sources and rebuild them.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Hap1k: use the web there are lots, there's lubuntu on the way which uses lxde by default
[20:13] <Pure> ActionParsnip, I was planning on having no GUI, just booting straight to rdesktop
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Hap1k: ulite advise it too
[20:14] <hapt1K> ktx
[20:14] <hapt1K> thanks
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Pure could use puppy then or xpud for FAST boot but is harded to config and has few drivers
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Pure or could use chromOS when it arrives
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> ChromeOS*
[20:15] <Pure> ActionParsnip, that has TS?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Pure: think so
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Pure: ask jeeves ;)
[20:15] <Romeo> How can I re-install WUBI ? I already have Ubuntu install on a separate partition. But Windows loader took over after Windows re-install.
[20:16] <mod> guntbert, I'll give it a shot here...  I've installed 9.10 on to a separate disk than the one I use for my usual OS, as I am planning to migrate my desktop to ubuntu.  When ubnutu shows its booting drive as /dev/sdb.  When I feel things are set, I will remove the old drive and put the ubntu drive in its place (both are sata).  However, I expect that grub will be confused because of the changes in matching drive UUIDs to /dev/<devices>
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Romeo: cpould copy the image file out and install wubi, then replace the initial image with your own
[20:16] <fccf> kaji: I asked the question of SABDFL recently about touchscreens and he told me he hadn't thought about it, and should have... Ubuntu is a little behind on linux drivers for touchscreens I wish I could help further, that post isn't in english so it doesnt help, except the last section shows the xorg.conf info for the driver, yet the driver needs compiling to work on that laptop ... we are getting there, but alas you will be pointing at your mouse for a whi
[20:17] <mod> oh wait...
[20:17] <mod> this shouldnt matter
[20:17] <Romeo> okay that makes sense :)
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Romeo: I don't use wubi but it makes sense
[20:17] <Romeo> thanks ActionParsnip :)
[20:17] <Pure> I know I'm not supposed to ask here, but could I use Arch?
[20:17] <guntbert> mod: that looks like it is a little too complicated for me to think through right now - please ask the channel
[20:17] <mod> nevermind :)
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Pure: you could
[20:18] <Pure> Would that be thinner?
[20:18] <j0nr> hi all, am having errors during installation. error ubi-language, timezone and partitioning
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Pure: try a few distros. See which you like
[20:18] <nico__> hello
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Pure: could try featherlinux or dsl or puppy for lightness
[20:19] <kaji> fccf: that post was completely in eng
[20:19] <Pure> I'll have to ask if I can play with a lappy at school tomorrow.  Can't at home
[20:19] <nico__> i have a question about GLX support
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> J0nr: did you md5 test your iso? Did you verify the cd?
[20:19] <kaji> fccf: unless Isent the wrong one :<
[20:19] <Pure> Literaly, all they're going to be used for is TS
[20:20] <nico__> can anyone help me with GLX please?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Pure: there may be a distro which only gives a ts client. There's mamux which boots straight to mame so makes sense
[20:21] <j0nr> ActionParsnip: No, its a live USB stick too, if that matters. How do I MD5 check? Is that part of the menu options when booting the live menu?
[20:21] <fccf> kaji: see here https://launchpad.net/~fujitouch/+archive/ppa
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | j0nr
[20:21] <Pure> I need it to be able to use wifi and such
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> J0nr: the usb has a usb checker too. You may have a bad iso but you failed to check it was consistant or correct
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Pure: hunt round, there are lots of distros
[20:22] <fccf> kaji: that is the driver ... might even work OOTB
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Pure: ubuntu isn't always the answer
[20:22] <Pure> Is USB over TS possible.  We have some music software that uses external USB sound cards
[20:22] <Pure> ActionParsnip, I know
[20:22] <frankS2> Pure: whats TS
[20:23] <Red_HamsterX> Debian is always the answer.
[20:23] <Pure> frankS2, Terminal Services
[20:23] <Pure> I'm thinking of Arch
[20:23] <kaji> fccf: you are a god, i'll try that, thanks
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Pure: try a few is all I can say
[20:23] <nico__> anyone? i really want GLX to work
[20:23] <fccf> !anyone | nico__
[20:23] <Pure> I'll suggest the idea tomorrow, and see what the admins think
[20:24] <frankS2> Pure: windows terminal?
[20:24] <fccf> !details | nico__
[20:24] <frankS2> Pure: or SSH?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Red_hamsterx: in bootup times i'd say xpud everytime (except bioslinux)
[20:24] <nico__> ah good point fccf
[20:24] <j0nr> ActionParsnip: cheers. It checks out ok
[20:25] <cago> plis si esto es español decirlo
[20:25] <nico__> i'm trying to get GLX working, but now i get a message about the GLX extension that's missing, for example, i cant run glxgears any more
[20:25] <Red_HamsterX> ActionParsnip, I'm just a clueful Debian fanboy who appreciates the value of Ubuntu. No need to convince me of its shortcomings.
[20:25] <nico__> the problem started right after installing the nvidia driver
[20:25] <cago> ?¿?¿??
[20:25] <cago> ?¿?¿??
[20:25] <cago> ?¿?¿??
[20:25] <Pure> frankS2, remote desktop
[20:25] <nico__> it's a nvidia gforce 2 TI
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Red_hamsterx: they all have them :)
[20:25] <ultraparadigm> What directory is a good place to install shared applications?
[20:26] <nico__> oh, i'm running ubuntu 9.10
[20:26] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Ultraparadigm: anywher but /proc or /dev
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Ultraparadigm: I use /opt personally. There is no good place really
[20:27] <ultraparadigm> ok thanks.  I'll use /usr/local
[20:27] <ira_gershwin> ultraparadigm: it's all a matter of opinion, really, i like /usr/local/share for unusual things
[20:27] <ira_gershwin> then i just chmod that directory in particular
[20:27] <ira_gershwin> so you don't need admin priveleges
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Nico_: does: gksudo jockey-gtk not offer a driver?
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Nico: kdesu jockey-kde ,if you use kde
[20:28] <ultraparadigm> cool, thanks.  I'm installing songbird.  it's just an archive with a directory structure in it.  I'll drop it in /usr/local/share
[20:28] <nico__> i use gnome, it's looking for drivers
[20:28] <nico__> nope, still no driver
[20:29] <zroysch> what is a good password keeper app for ubuntu
[20:29] <nico__> i installed the right driver from the nvidia website
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Zroysch: your mind :)
[20:30] <nico__> i'm sure i've got the right driver for my nvidia geforce 2 TI
[20:30] <zroysch> ActionParsnip: good one.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Nico_: you don't need to do that. If your card is supported by the 195 driver you can add the nvidia ppa and install the packages that way
[20:30] <zroysch> ActionParsnip: try remembering 100 logins and passwords
[20:30] <unixSnob> is Lucid Lynx pretty stable?  Or should i take an older version?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Zroysch: passwords for what?
[20:30] <zroysch> ActionParsnip: its for work.
[20:31] <airtonix> !info revelation | zroysch
[20:31] <nico__> nvidia ppa?
[20:31] <jcrawford> hey guys how can i turn off the annoying notifications i get in the upper right corner of my screen?
[20:31] <jcrawford> I know I can turn them off from app to app but I would rather turn them off at the WM level
[20:32] <nico__> what's the nvidia ppa
[20:32] <unixSnob> zroysch: if you like emacs, there is an emacs mode for the generic commandline password manager
[20:32] <airtonix> jcrawford, you can't short of un installing them
[20:32] <jcrawford> airtonix, what should I uninstall?
[20:32] <jcrawford> libnotify?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Nico_: websearch and you will find
[20:32] <Pure> I have ubuntu on my pendrive as an ISO, so I might try that first
[20:32] <Pure> It comes withrdesktop?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Jcrawford: if you remove libnotify they will ALL go
[20:33] <kodak> hello all
[20:33] <jcrawford> ActionParsnip, i get annoyed when IM tells me who is online etc.
[20:33] <jcrawford> that's what most of my notifications are
[20:33] <andrew_p> hi. in init scripts, start-stop-daemon check if such daemon already exists. how do i start the second instance of the same daemon, if i need to?
[20:33] <kodak> i would love some help. i have 2 problems. my xserver doesnt start, and i dont have internet.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Jcrawford: if you want to keep it but want to stop some apps you will need to configure the apps
[20:33] <ultraparadigm> hmmm
[20:33] <airtonix> jcrawford, enter key is bad
[20:33] <andrew_p> i haven't found any quick way to overcome this
[20:33] <unixSnob> zroysch: the commandline tool is called "pwsafe"
[20:33] <Superbest> Hello, I will dual boot ubuntu 9.10 and xp sp3. Can all my ubuntu partitions be logical?
[20:33] <zroysch> airtonix: thanks!
[20:33] <zroysch> unixSnob: thanks
[20:33] <kodak> i have a guide for how to fix the xserver, but i cant find anything on how to connect to internet in terminal
[20:34] <nico__> hm googling doesnt make it very clear to me
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Jcrawford: pidgin has an autoenabled plugin to talk to it which can be disabled
[20:34] <zroysch> hmm. i just installed revelation and now its telling me to reinstall when i go to ope nit
[20:34] <ultraparadigm> if I do "mv ./Songbird /usr/local/shared"  will that overright the shared directory or move the folder into it?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Kodak: hold shift at boot, select root recovery mode and rename your xorg/conf file
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Xorg.conf sorry
[20:34] <Oasa> Can some one please tell me a nice little software which will let me demux the soundtrack from a movie and let me save as mp3/ogg ?
[20:34] <fccf> nico__: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/nvidia is probably the one you want ... other option is using envy to install the appropriate driver from repo
[20:35] <evan_luck> Hi all, question: i keep getting logged out at random times using Karmic. I've found some stuff on Google saying it might be X or Compiz so I rolled back Compiz from unstable to stable but I still have the problem and don't know what to do about X
[20:35] <jcrawford> thanks found it :)\
[20:35] <fccf> evan_luck: have you looked at your Xorg logs?
[20:35] <Nitsuga> Pure, I don't understand you. You have a ISO file in a pendrive or you are using you pendrive as a live-usb?
[20:35] <kodak> ActionParsnip: ye, but to fix it , i need to download the nvidia driver, and i dont have internet. so thats my priority
[20:35] <evan_luck> fccf: no, where can I find that log?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Ultrapardigm: you can use: gksudo nautilus ,and copy it using your file manager
[20:36] <Nitsuga> ultraparadigm, that will override it.
[20:36] <guntbert> unixSnob: for a working setup: don't use alpha software except for testing - see also #ubuntu+1
[20:36] <Pure> Nitsuga, first one
[20:36] <ultraparadigm> :-( ok don't want to do that then
[20:36] <fccf> evan_luck: /var/log/Xorg.log  ... or use the logviewer .. System>Admin> Log File Viewer
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Kodak: if you run; dpkg -l | grep nvidia , do you see any nvidia packages?
[20:37] <evan_luck> fccf: in LFV I have Xorg.0.log, sound right?
[20:37] <Nitsuga> Pure, it comes with desktop if the filename is ubuntu-desktop ;). The text-only install, but with desktop is ubuntu-alternate. And the non-desktop install is ubuntu-server
[20:37] <fccf> evan_luck: yes that is it
[20:37] <Superbest> anyone? Linux partitions, logical, is that cool?
[20:37] <Pure> Nitsuga, rdesktop
[20:37] <airtonix> !anyone | Superbest
[20:37] <kodak> ActionParsnip: no
[20:37] <nico__> ah some lines for sources.list, that's what ppa is
[20:38] <Nitsuga> Pure, ohh rdesktop! Yes, it comes with it
[20:38] <Superbest> My Linux partitions: Can all of them be logical?
[20:38] <Pure> When would usb device redirection be implemented?
[20:38] <Guest93743> cant get wifi to work on a hp dv6....cant even determine the card type...nothing shows in LSPCI or Hardware Drivers...what can i do???????
[20:38] <Oasa> Can some one please tell me a nice little software which will let me demux the soundtrack from a movie and let me save as mp3/ogg ?
[20:38] <ultraparadigm> ok, "sudo mv ./Songbird /usr/local/share/Songbird" worked.  Thanks!
[20:38] <kodak> ActionParsnip: im using my laptop to join IRC. it has internet, not the computer that has problems
[20:38] <usuario_> lucas
[20:38] <fccf> nico__: a ppa is a personal package archive provided by the community, whereas a repository is official if not on launchpad
[20:38] <deostroll> hi how 2 use unzip command to unzip to a folder...?
[20:38] <skydrome> can anyone tell me what the default font is on xchat?
[20:38] <Nitsuga> Pure, usb device redirection?
[20:38] <evan_luck> fccf: not sure what exactly I'm looking for. lots of "LoadModule" and some "resource ranges after probing"
[20:39] <kaji> fccf: it didn't do anything :<
[20:39] <Oasa> deostroll
[20:39] <unixSnob> thanks guntbert.. would Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) be better?  that's the 2nd to the latest netinst version
[20:39] <Oasa> "
[20:39] <Oasa> :
[20:39] <ultraparadigm> now I don't have to worry about changing permissions cause they alreay  have my user perms
[20:39] <Pure> It's not implemented apparently
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Kodak: not sure then, I'm guessing there will be guides to uninstall the driver from the nv site. I've always used the packages. You could edit xorg.conf to tell your system to use vesa driver which will work
[20:39] <Oasa> tar -z
[20:39] <usuario_> hello
[20:39] <Pure> We have software that uses external sound cards
[20:39] <nico__> but it boils down to me adding some lines to sources.list right? at least that's what i did
[20:39] <deostroll> Oasa: a .zip file?
[20:39] <kodak> ActionParsnip: ye, i found several guides, but they all tell me to download something, so i need to fix my internet first :P
[20:40] <Nitsuga> Pure, ohh in rdesktop. It is implemented. Let me check the manual
[20:40] <eder> hello, someone knows a web interface firewall, that works with iptables, that i can substitute my FWbuilder?
[20:40] <guntbert> unixSnob: 9.10 *is* the latest version as of now - if you want a reliable system - yes use it (at least not an alpha version)
[20:40] <Oasa> deostrol: unzip filename
[20:40] <unixSnob> guntbert: thanks
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Kodak: can you connect via an ethernet cable. This will make life tonnes easier. To edit xorg.conf you don't need a connection
[20:40] <deostroll> Oasa: how to unzip to a different folder
[20:41] <iwohxohti>  I was using Google Mail fine by IMAP, but now I'm getting a bad SSL certificate signature.  Am I 'special'?  I may be able to see whether i am 'special' if someone  else shares the google certificate details with me.
[20:41] <airtonix> Oasa, deostroll, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[20:41] <guntbert> eder: nothing can replace fwbuilder :-)
[20:41] <LateralForce> If process A has niceness 5 and process B has niceness 0, will it matter if the niceness of process A is changed to 10 (relative to process B)?
[20:41] <Nitsuga> Pure, rdesktop can redirect folders, printers, sound, smart cards and serial ports. I dont know if USB is a part of serial ports
[20:41] <fccf> kaji: now look at your xorg.conf and see if it added the touch screen lines, if not add them from the link you gave me ... it is the last section on that forum post .. you might need libts-bin ... for the tscalibrate program,,, also restart X
[20:41] <Oasa> sorry i did not read your question properly. Thanx airtonix
[20:42] <deostroll> airtonix: hw do u do this via shell?
[20:42] <eder> So, can i use a interface web with firewall builder?
[20:42] <Guest93743> cant get wifi to work on a hp dv6....cant even determine the card type...nothing shows in LSPCI or Hardware Drivers...what can i do???????
[20:42] <Pure> We could just keep those computers as windows
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Lateralforce: not really it will just be pushed back more. If the cpu becomes quite idle then process a will be let in to run
[20:42] <dexley_> hey yall
[20:42] <user23> hi, someone knows where to find working via chrome drivers ?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest93743: run: sudo lshw -C network
[20:43] <Oasa> deostroll : YOu can use -d
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest93743: use the product line
[20:43] <Nitsuga> Pure, checked. USB devices are not redirected.
[20:43] <kodak> ActionParsnip: i am connected with wire, thats the thing, it worked in gnome, but the setttings didnt seem to have stuck :S
[20:43] <Oasa> as parameter to extract to seperate folder
[20:43] <kodak> resolv.conf is empty, for example
[20:43] <Nitsuga> Pure, I didn't know that Windows's terminal server had that feature.
[20:43] <Pure> Nitsuga, is it compatible iwth Server 2008 R2?
[20:43] <Guest93743>  ActionParsnip, some stuff scrolled then nothing happened?
[20:43] <Oasa> Deostrol see the manual page  of unzip. "man unzip" hope that helps
[20:43] <Pure> Nitsuga, niether did I, but I don't use it
[20:44] <Pure> Only just got introduced to it
[20:44] <Crunkenstein> Hello
[20:44] <Nitsuga> Pure, it uses the RDP v4, it can connect to Windows NT 5 and higher. I tried it on Windows Seven and forks flawlessly
[20:44] <fccf> !hi | Crunkenstein
[20:44] <deostroll> Oasa: thanx
[20:44] <Crunkenstein> thanks.
[20:44] <Nitsuga> Pure, works
[20:44] <skrite> someone recommend a good front end to mysql database? something like maybe a cross between MS access and mysql-query-browser?
[20:45] <Crunkenstein> what command connects to another server?
[20:45] <andi_> hello, how to upgrade firefox to 3.6?
[20:45] <jsec> skrite, looked at mysql workbench?
[20:45] <Crunkenstein> I want to connect to a socialist chat.
[20:45] <Pure> I'll see if I can stick ubuntu on a lappy tomorrow
[20:45] <fccf> Crunkenstien: not the place to ask, and probably the wrong network .. try dalnet or undernet
[20:45] <Oasa> deostroll : welcome
[20:46] <skrite> jsec, no, never heard of it.  I only have terminal to work with. could someone tell me what to google, where to go or what manual to read to be able setup my wired internet connection
[20:46] <skrite> jsec, will check it out, thanks
[20:46] <andi_> !wtf | Crunkenstein
[20:46] <jsec> np
[20:47] <Nitsuga> Pure, you don't have to install it if you don't want to. You can use it as a live.cd or as live-usb (there is a good livecd to liveusb "converter" i scalled USBuntu liveusb creator)
[20:47] <andi_> ;)
[20:47] <fccf> Crunkenstein: sorry, /join #socialist
[20:47] <Nitsuga> Pure, you can also install it on you usb using unetbootin.
[20:47] <Pure> Nitsuga, I know, but my USB is my only one
[20:47] <Crunkenstein> Didn't work.
[20:47] <Pure> I'll probably burn the iso to a disk
[20:47] <dexley_> Oasa: yeah but thats takes a lot of time doin it.
[20:48] <brian1> hello all
[20:48] <Refried_> is there any way to remap group numbers on the way into a chroot?
[20:48] <Oasa> dexley_ : then i dont know :(
[20:48] <evan_luck> fccf: any idea what I should look for in the X log file? I don't see any errors (EE) in there at all
[20:48] <Crunkenstein> I'm trying to join irc.che-lives.com
[20:48] <dexley_> Oasa: ty
[20:48] <Nitsuga> Pure, ok, good luck.
[20:48] <Oasa> can any one tell me a good software that seperates audio track from movie. ?
[20:48] <fccf> Crunkenstein: are you using pidgin?
[20:48] <Crunkenstein> XChat
[20:48] <Pure> Thanks, Nitsuga
[20:49] <Crunkenstein> I didn't know you could use pidgin!
[20:49] <Red_HamsterX> Oasa, you might be able to use avidemux.
[20:49] <dexley_> Oasa: convert it in audio file with winFF.
[20:49] <Oasa> Red_HamsterX : thanks. Let we check.
[20:49] <Oasa> WinFF ?
[20:49] <Oasa> i just want to get a 5 min sound track will i be able to get it?
[20:49] <fccf> Crunkenstein: pidgin will connect to any irc server ... using it now to talk to you
[20:49] <Crunkenstein> Thanks.
[20:49] <guntbert> Crunkenstein: /server irc.che-lives.com (or use the xchat menu - network list)
[20:50] <dexley_> Oasa: nah it will convert it all.
[20:50] <Crunkenstein> Ah, thank you guntbert.
[20:50] <brian1> is anyone good at getting drivers to work?
[20:50] <fccf> !anyone |brian1
[20:50] <Oasa> hmmm dexley_ that is the problem. let me check avidemux
[20:50] <Oasa> dexley_: Thanks
[20:51] <Guest93743> cant get wifi to work on a hp dv6....cant even determine the card type...nothing shows in LSPCI or Hardware Drivers...what can i do???????
[20:51] <dexley_> Oasa avidemux is good too! yw
[20:51] <LucidGuy> Regarding nmap, is it safe to say -PN -O is the ideal "HARDEST" scan one can do?
[20:51] <blakkheim> LucidGuy: hardest?
[20:51] <brian1> on my desktop there is a kind of watermark or something that has the amd logo and says unsupported hardware, im using the propietary driver it showed but it still shows the mark
[20:51] <blakkheim> LucidGuy: that will ignore ping replies and try to guess the target's OS.. that's all :/
[20:52] <CountDown> Does the Ubuntu Netbook Remix work on the Acer Aspire One AO532H?
[20:52] <brian1> its for my graphics card
[20:53] <LucidGuy> blakkheim, yes I want to avoid a basic ICMP check since some hosts have ICMP replies blocked like XP default firewall setting
[20:54] <burivoy> hi there
[20:54] <LucidGuy> blakkheim, I want to do a full scan of a subnet and make sure it picks up all hosts regardless of firewalls etc.
[20:54] <burivoy> is anybody in?
[20:54] <dexley_> hi burivoy
[20:55] <burivoy> I tried Lucid and after upgrade I am unable to load it
[20:55] <blakkheim> !lucid | burivoy
[20:56] <burivoy> thanx
[20:56] <linfo> join #ubuntu-es
[20:56] <lajm> hola
[20:57] <xangua> !es | lajm
[20:59] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Guest93743, try lspci | grep controller ..it might show in the list as network controller
[21:00] <Refried_> i'm trying to run *karmic* in a chroot, and i'm having a weird problem — sudo is saying "can't open /etc/sudoers: Permission denied", but the permission is 0440 root:root.  any ideas?
[21:01] <Guest93743> BluesKaj-Laptop, something for nvidia and ricoh...Hp.com says its a broadcom...i've installed everything broadcom related from the repo and it still doesnt work
[21:01] <Guest93743> any ideas
[21:01] <flamsmark> how can i force xemacs to stay in the terminal, and not generate an x window?
[21:02] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. Could somebody take a look at my preseed.cfg? I'm having problems partitioning LVMs.
[21:02] <guntbert> Refried_: maybe I'm just slow but your question (run *karmic* in a chroot) doesn't make sense for me - can you rephrase that?
[21:02] <IsmAvatar> need sound help. I have OSS, and was listening to music, when suddenly it got choppy
[21:03] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Guest93743, make sure it doesn't say ethernet controller, that's your wired connection ..the wifi one will be the network controller
[21:03] <Guest93743> BluesKaj-Laptop, theres nothing there
[21:04] <luser> new in ubunto need help anybody?
[21:04] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Guest93743, what model pc/laptop ?
[21:04] <guntbert> !ask | luser
[21:04] <airtonix> Guest93743, what kind of laptop/netbook is it ?
[21:05] <fccf> flamsmark: xemacs is the emacs in X ... just use emacs
[21:05] <Guest93743> hp pav. dv6000
[21:05] <flamsmark> fccf, xemacs isn't just emacs in x. i regularly run it without x, on headless boxes that have no x
[21:06] <flamsmark> fccf, xemacs is a fork going back to the 80s
[21:06] <CountDown> Anyone know if UNR runs on the Acer Aspire One AO532H?
[21:07] <Guest93743> BluesKaj-Laptop, airtonix hp pav. dv6000
[21:07] <fccf> flamsmark: I am going to install it just to see what you are talking about, give me a min
[21:07] <luser> i install ubuntu today 9.10 it was working fine till now and now i can t chage my resolution it is 800x600 ad it don t give me more  and can tburn dvds program jsut turn off by it self
[21:07] <airtonix> CountDown, no one knows
[21:07] <CountDown> airtonix: Shucks.
[21:07] <airtonix> CountDown, standard answer to questions starting with 'anyone'
[21:07] <ujjain> Hi! Does Ubuntu installer have an LVM option?
[21:07] <csaba> my crontab won't start the tasks I've set to it... I just wrote for 07 22 * * *  echo "aaa"  and it didn't execute this command
[21:07] <csaba> I didn't get no mail
[21:08] <airtonix> !anyone > CountDown
[21:08] <brma> Has anyone installed ubuntu server or desktop on a powermac g5?
[21:08] <airtonix> ...
[21:08] <csaba> it is not creating any logs in /var/log/
[21:08] <IsmAvatar> need sound help. I have OSS, and was listening to music, when suddenly it got choppy, and continues to be choppy
[21:08] <Dougal> my desktop appears as if frozen, but I can still access it remotely over ssh. Don't know much about command-line control though. How can I bring up a list of processes/applications so I can kill whatever's locked up my terminal?
[21:08] <Dougal> I'm basically looking for the commandline version of a task manager
[21:09] <kaji> fccf: UNR has no xorg.conf? O_o
[21:09] <guntbert> Dougal: either ps aux  or top  or htop
[21:09] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: top
[21:09] <IsmAvatar> !anyone > IsmAvatar
[21:10] <MilitantPotato> kaji: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop    login, sudo run X -xonfigure
[21:10] <CountDown> airtonix: If we're going to be pedantic, then I'll argue that asking if someone knows the answer is a valid question -- I don't want to listen to answers from people how don't know.  :)
[21:10] <ujjain> Does Ubuntu installer have an LVM option?
[21:10] <MilitantPotato> kaji: X is capital
[21:10] <Dougal> Thanx, will try
[21:10] <CountDown> how->who
[21:10] <maite><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:10] <MilitantPotato> kaji: then sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:10] <fccf> kaji: stand by.. I am working on something ... I may have an answer for you soon...
[21:10] <guntbert> maite: don't
[21:10] <Wicked> anyone else get that spam from Su|Marketing
[21:10] <linuxpoet> How do I tell Ubuntu to not use Gimp to open PDF?
[21:10] <kaji> fccf: awesome
[21:10] <MilitantPotato> fccf: I posted instructions for making a xorg.conf
[21:10] <linuxpoet> How do I tell Ubuntu to use Evolution to open .vcs files
[21:11] <MilitantPotato> I just did that 5 mins ago kaji
[21:11] <maite> hola como te llamas
[21:11] <MilitantPotato> my xorg.conf was empty also.
[21:11] <guntbert> !es | maite
[21:11] <Traveler__> Hi, does ubuntu/kubuntu need a firewall and antivirus?
[21:11] <IsmAvatar> linuxpoet, right click on a PDF or VCS file, click Properties, and click Open With tab. Select the program from there.
[21:11] <kaji> MilitantPotato: did what?
[21:11] <blakkheim> Traveler__: firewall would be a good idea, don't need av
[21:11] <MilitantPotato> Traveler__: no, firestarter is a good GUI for the built in firewall,  ClamAV is a good antivirus
[21:12] <MilitantPotato> kaji: your xorg.conf is black, yea?
[21:12] <Traveler__> blakkheim: so the base system isn't full secure, right ?
[21:12] <MilitantPotato> blank**
[21:12] <kaji> MilitantPotato: it is non-existant.
[21:12] <fccf> MilitantPotato: kaji is trying to setup a touchscreen on a fujitsu ... I pointed him at the fujitouch ppa, ... hoping to get the right driver configured so his touch will work
[21:12] <blakkheim> Traveler__: it's pretty secure (assuming you have everything patched and updated) but a firewall is a good idea
[21:12] <MilitantPotato> fccf: he can generate a working xorg.conf by following the steps I posted
[21:12] <MilitantPotato> fccf: that would allow him to enter the driver config nessisary
[21:13] <Traveler__> blakkheim: firestarter? or something else? is hard to config? why isn't there any firewall preinstalled?
[21:13] <MilitantPotato> kaji: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop     login, type sudo X -configure   then type sudo mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:13] <airtonix> Traveler__, no open ports so no need ofr one
[21:13] <blakkheim> Traveler__: there is a firewall preinstalled but it's not the best, i would recommend using iptables
[21:13] <IsmAvatar> need sound help. I have OSS, and was listening to music, when suddenly it got choppy, and continues to be choppy
[21:13] <blakkheim> Traveler__: by default though there are no open ports
[21:13] <Dougal> Okies Top confirms that vlc is indeed still running it's the first thing I wannna kill. How do I use top to end a process?
[21:14] <MilitantPotato> kaji: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:14] <brma> Or use a hardware firewall :D
[21:14] <Traveler__> blakkheim: but iptable it's hard to setup :)
[21:14] <airtonix> Traveler__, then use firestarter
[21:14] <blakkheim> Traveler__: um.. ok?
[21:14] <MilitantPotato> kaji: then you will have a working (existent) xorg.conf
[21:15] <arand> Dougal: I don't think you do, use "pkill processname" or "kill processid"
[21:15] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: sudo killall vlc
[21:15] <guntbert> Dougal: press k, then enter the pid and the signal
[21:16] <Blurpeace> Er, anyone here willing to do me a screenshot favor?
[21:16] <airtonix> Blurpeace, no
[21:16] <Blurpeace> : (
[21:16] <deanfx> Blurpeace: what you need?
[21:16] <Blurpeace> Your helpers aren't very nice. ;p
[21:16] <MilitantPotato> Blurpeace: my desktop is very modest
[21:16] <sevilla> ola
[21:17] <Blurpeace> This screenshot is oogly: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ies4linux_screenshot.png
[21:17] <home> hola
[21:17] <home> d dnde eres
[21:17] <xangua> !es | home
[21:17] <guntbert> Blurpeace: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:17] <Blurpeace> Yes yes guntbert.
[21:17] <Blurpeace> :\
[21:17] <home> mi msn es<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:17] <Dougal> okies it's killed and... no dice. I'm out of ideas aside from a total restart
[21:17] <blakkheim> !es
[21:17] <Dougal> woulda been nice if that's worked
[21:17] <blakkheim> oh too slow
[21:17] <xangua> home: no sabes leer¿
[21:18] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: what's going on?
[21:18] <fccf> flamsmark: I looked at xemacs ... it actually uses X ... so cannot run in terminal ... emacs is from the 80's, I think you are confused... however you said headless boxes, well, if you did that you were running an X session over SSH i presume, which either way xemacs would come up in an Xwindow
[21:18] <home> yes
[21:19] <Markive> A very good evening Helpers, I was wondering what you guys use to rip the audio from an MP4 video? thanks
[21:19] <Dougal> MilitantPotato: I had vlc playing a vido in ther terminal on F7, was working in the console terminals on F1/F2, when I switched back to the GUI the screen froze (vlc was in fullscreen)
[21:19] <Blurpeace> Anyone willing to screenshot IEs 4 Linux on a default Ubuntu operating system?
[21:19] <Blurpeace> Would be most appreciative to anyone willing.
[21:20] <fccf> Markive: avidemux will do that
[21:20] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:20] <BluesKaj-Laptop> Guest28416, it looks like you have the same wifi card as me a very common broadcom43 , works with wicd network manager  , sudo apt-get install wicd , then look for it apps or the run box alt+f2 ,then you can configure it to work with your gateway. The existing network manager (default) is disabled by wicd install.
[21:20] <MilitantPotato> will re-load your GUI
[21:20] <Markive> fccf thanks, i'll give it a try
[21:20] <daskog> Hello 2 all
[21:20] <xangua> !ot | Blurpeace
[21:20] <flamsmark> fccf, xemacs doesn't need x. it turns out that -nw stops it from making a window
[21:20] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: you'll logout and lose w/e you where working on though
[21:20] <Dougal> the audio carried on playing till the end of the vid, but the computer has been completely non-responsive ever since, except through ssh
[21:20] <BluesKaj-Laptop> oops wrong guest
[21:20] <Blurpeace> xangua, it's quite rude to canned speech more experienced pplz. ;p
[21:20] <kaji> grrr. Militant: would have been nice to know that would make my gui go away....I'm a total linux noob, sp I have basically no idea what to do, and what little knowledge I do have would probably only get me into trouble.
[21:21] <Blurpeace> Was only hoping. Will find somewhere else.
[21:21] <Dougal> MilitantPotato: I already did sudo shutdown -r, what would your version have done differently?
[21:21] <slimjimflim> hi i'm trying to disable some ttys at boot time...looks like i need to be doing something in /etc/init/ but idk what file
[21:21] <MilitantPotato> kaji: if ya have a pen handy, jot down these commands ok?
[21:21] <daskog> We just got ourself a dedicated server for all our web design needs etc, but it comes with Plesk (we are of course free to install whatever we please) What kinda setup is possible out there, is Plesk really the best there is? any other guides, setups etc you can point me to?
[21:21] <kaji> MilitantPotato: whisper them to me, k?
[21:21] <macman_> hey all .. i have a flv file .. i want to extract the video and extract the audio seperate .. any ideas on how .. i have audiodemux but that is something tottally difret
[21:21] <fccf> flamsmark: glad you found what you needed, also good to know
[21:22] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: kill the xserver (GUI) and re-load it
[21:22] <MilitantPotato> kaji: 1 sec
[21:22] <fccf> macman_: avidemux should be able to pull that apart
[21:23] <Dougal> MilitantPotato: oooh, that would have been interesting to try. Will keep it in mind for next time
[21:23] <slimjimflim> daskog: there's always cpanel
[21:24] <daskog> i tought by getting a dedicated server we was freeing our self from constraints etc, but plesk now turns out to be a money hungry panel with features missing
[21:24] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: you can use restart also
[21:24] <decembre> hello
[21:25] <slimjimflim> anyone know how to disable excess ttys using the config files in /etc/init ?
[21:25] <MilitantPotato> Dougal: instead of stop/start
[21:25] <decembre> does someone knows if lsusb is broken currently ?
[21:25] <daskog> i am not planning to start a web hosting firm just to have some freedom as to what i can install etc
[21:25] <daskog> where does Ubuntu server fit into all this?
[21:25] <slimjimflim> daskog: what do you need a panel for anyway?
[21:25] <daskog> and how does one manage it easy
[21:26] <Markive> fccf hi again i've got the mp4 in avidemux but I can;t see a way of saving just the audio. sorry to be a pain
[21:26] <daskog> i am only used to cpanel, directadmin, plesk
[21:26] <slimjimflim> daskog: learn the command line ;)
[21:26] <slimjimflim> daskog: there's also phpmyadmin
[21:26] <daskog> i know so little of running things from the barebone
[21:26] <vmarcetic> when i press w key on my keyboard i get number 3 (before that i didn`t even have any character on that key, but I installed zboard driver and know i get this)
[21:26] <slimjimflim> daskog: ubuntu server, or any server distro is going to be optimized for speed
[21:26] <daskog> What i need is a good setup for controlling Django, php, ruby etc
[21:26] <slimjimflim> ..it won't have xwindows
[21:27] <slimjimflim> cli only
[21:27] <daskog> with out all the fuzzzzz
[21:27] <daskog> :P
[21:27] <slimjimflim> daskog: ssh ftw
[21:27] <fccf> Markive: goto audio menu in avidemux ... Click Save
[21:27] <daskog> deploying web sites fast is crucial there i see plesk, cpanel etc shines at least for me, what ellse is there?
[21:28] <Markive> fccf any idea what it will spit out and where it might appear? thanks again
[21:28] <akio> I have the same sources.list in two machines yet they get different kernels. FTW?
[21:29] <pw-toxic> hi, I cant install ebox, because there are depenency problems. Anyone familiar with this problem, and knows an alternative to ebox?
[21:29] <Markive> ahh. i think its working
[21:29] <pw-toxic> i need a webinterface for my ubuntu fileserver - DNS NAT Webserver Samba etc
[21:29] <pw-toxic> i need a gui
[21:29] <fccf> Markive: it will save it whereever you put it ... file type is dependent on what it is converted to on the left panel ... don't copy ... use mp3 or whatever
[21:29] <Markive> fccf thanks so much, you are a great helper
[21:30] <vmarcetic> so can anyone pls help me with keybinds??
[21:30] <lahmas> I don't know why I'm telling you this but I see all Linux terminals as something holy (I'm a windows user mainly)
[21:30] <fccf> Markive: I try ... I just wish it would pay better
[21:31] <ctmjr> !cookie | fccf
[21:32] <slimjimflim> start on runlevel [23]
[21:32] <slimjimflim> stop on runlevel [!23]
[21:32] <slimjimflim> respawn
[21:32] <slimjimflim> oops
[21:32] <lahmas> I bet ubottu runs windows.
[21:32] <SirLoseALot> Hey everyone. I need some help here. Just installed Ubuntu to an external HDD, grub in MBR. It just hangs at boot, no error message, just system freeze. This worked before, no idea what's wrong. rootdelay=10 did not work.
[21:32] <xinshun> What package can replace MathLab?
[21:32] <fccf> ctmjr: thank you
[21:33] <meganerd> lahmas: are you trolling?
[21:33] <slimjimflim> i have the following in my /etc/init/tty3.conf : http://pastebin.ca/1810783 anyone know how to get it so that tty isn't started at boot time?
[21:34] <dismantle> can anyone tell me why i'm getting "permission denied" when i try to launch a python file from the terminal?
[21:34] <MilitantPotato> xinshun: google shows octave and a few others
[21:34] <Blackcamaro8> Can anyone help me out and tell my why my system claims 100% CPU usage on Core0 and 50-80% Core1 after installing an nVIDIA GeForce 5200FX? I've installed the restricted drivers for the card, and both the top and htop commands claim nothing is using that much CPU. I can definitely tell something is by the computer's performance.
[21:34] <meganerd> pw-toxic: have you looked at webmin?  I have not run it in a while since I prefer the CLI, so YMMV.
[21:34] <slimjimflim> dismantle: try 'sudo <the command you were using>'
[21:34] <pw-toxic> meganerd, webmin is unstable for ubuntu (see wiki)
[21:34] <SirLoseALot> dismantle: no execute permission for your user?
[21:34] <meganerd> dismantle: you do not have permissions to that file or it is trying to do something that your user is not permitted to do (like modifying a file in /etc/)
[21:35] <SirLoseALot> ...
[21:35] <meganerd> pw-toxic: are we talking the packaged version or the one directly from upstream?
[21:35] <SirLoseALot> anyways, nothing about my boot problem?
[21:35] <pw-toxic> meganerd, im not sure.. i cant access the wiki at the moment.. ;(
[21:35] <meganerd> pw-toxic: at any rate I don't need it so I have not looked at it in a while.
[21:35] <pw-toxic> 503 Service Unavailable
[21:36] <pw-toxic> ubuntuuusers.de down ;(
[21:36] <meganerd> pw-toxic: I last ran webmin in 2002, so I am more than a little out of date.  Back then I do remember having a better expereince grabbing webmin from their site instead of using the packaged Debian one
[21:36] <lfaraone> I want to do an one-off transfer of highly redundant files over a internet connection, and I don't care about encrypting the stream. what's the fastest way to do this?
[21:36] <pw-toxic> meganerd, do you know other interfaces thanw ebmin?
[21:37] <pw-toxic> meganerd, what do you do, if you want to make a port forwarding? do you really use CLI iptables command?
[21:37] <ikonia> !ebox | pw-toxic
[21:37] <csaba_> my router can't detect my host name, while it can when I'm using windows... can I enable something for the router to detect me?
[21:37] <geezenslaw> Hi, I installed ubuntu 9.10 remix on my 16gb flashdrive with the 4gb option on install. Now, I am getting an error condition: this machine only has 137mb of space. When I examine the available disk space I don't see what is filled up. Can I run another flashdrive with ubuntu and increase the size of the mount? Will this help?
[21:37] <meganerd> lfaraone: scp, rsync, netcat, it probably depends on what you have installed at both ends
[21:37] <blakkheim> pw-toxic: what's wrong with iptables
[21:37] <pw-toxic> ikonia, ebox doesnt work at the  moment for ubuntu 9.04
[21:37] <Blackcamaro8> Does no one have a solution to my problem, or at least some ideas?
[21:37] <lfaraone> meganerd: it's one file, and I can install what I want. I fear scp will suffer from a performance penalty...
[21:37] <NCS_One> hi
[21:38] <pw-toxic> blakkheim, lol its hacking complicated? i need half an hour to find the right command and in 90% the cases i fuck my server so it doesnt work anymore ;)
[21:38] <]PedoBear[> Hi guys...
[21:38] <ikonia> pw-toxic: control your language please
[21:38] <]PedoBear[> what is the best encyrption for ubuntu?
[21:38] <lfaraone> ]PedoBear[: What are you trying to encrypt?
[21:38] <]PedoBear[> emm
[21:38] <meganerd> lfaraone: I force the use of blowfish for an encryption algorithm, but there is still overhead
[21:38] <]PedoBear[> some pics
[21:38] <blakkheim> pw-toxic: if you can't configure a firewall i don't think you should be setting up a server, you could end up with gaping security holes due to misconfiguration
[21:38] <]PedoBear[> and video
[21:38] <pw-toxic> ikonia, hm i thought "fuck" is iwthin the normal spoken language already, but ok, i can choose different words ;)
[21:38] <ikonia> !guidelines > pw-toxic
[21:38] <ikonia> !language | pw-toxic
[21:39] <Lostinspace_46> I am having some problems with repos and keys.  Maybe someone could look here and and help me out.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/383961/  Any and all help will be appreciated.
[21:39] <meganerd> pw-toxic: I have a script that I put my iptables commands into, I add a line and re-run the script
[21:39] <NCS_One> how can I check if the right drivers for my graphic card are being loaded ?
[21:39] <pw-toxic> blakkheim, well i know the backgrounds of security, but i dont know all the commands in the cache of my head ;)
[21:39] <meganerd> I have been writing iptables rules for years, it takes me seconds, usually.
[21:39] <csaba> my router can't detect my host name, while it can when I'm using windows... can I enable something for the router to detect me?
[21:40] <lfaraone> Lostinspace_46: you just need to import the key
[21:40] <indy_> hi all
[21:40] <dismantle> uhm, i don't think it's an issue with permission for my account, since i can launch .cpp files
[21:40] <slimjimflim> anyone know how to disable a tty in /etc/init ?
[21:40] <indy_> need some help with the mount command
[21:40] <meganerd> pw-toxic: and no, I am not aware of any other web interfaces.  Actually, not entirely true, Luci is the web intereface for OpenWRT, I don't know if it has been ported since I don't even use it on my openwrt devices
[21:40] <slimjimflim> like /etc/init/tty3
[21:40] <slimjimflim> indy_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[21:40] <pw-toxic> meganerd, yes.. so but why should I do this myself if other persons have already done this myself?
[21:40] <exalt> where is menu.lst, i notice grub has changed
[21:40] <exalt> ?
[21:41] <indy_> slimjimflim: ok. just didn't want to be rude
[21:41] <meganerd> pw-toxic: ??? I don't understand that last sentance.
[21:41] <pw-toxic> meganerd, thats the idea of reuse and interfaces ;)
[21:41] <NCS_One> exalt: /boot/grub
[21:41] <gamepro127> damn
[21:41] <slimjimflim> indy_: don't worry about it
[21:41] <NCS_One> I think
[21:41] <pw-toxic> meganerd, you just said, that you have set up your own script that can be run for port forwarding
[21:41] <pw-toxic> meganerd, nothing more than this is a webinterface, or may i be wrong? ;)
[21:41] <Guest84788> do I need to restart something after changing /etc/nsswitch.conf  ?
[21:42] <meganerd> pw-toxic: it is a firewall script, which looks like the ones in all the tutorials, nothing special
[21:42] <ikonia> pw-toxic: look at fwbuilder maybe ?
[21:42] <indy_> how do i use the mount command to access a ubuntu share on my server with read/write rights?
[21:42] <exalt> NCS_One:  there is no menu.lst
[21:42] <genii> !grub2 | exalt
[21:42] <meganerd> indy_: what are you using to "share" the files from the server?
[21:42] <slimjimflim> indy_: first you need to make a new directory to mount it to
[21:43] <gamepro127> Has anybody ever had a Ubuntu Install last over 2 days without it screwing up?
[21:43] <slimjimflim> so i.e. from your home directory, 'mkdir share'
[21:43] <gamepro127> For some reason Ubuntu hates me
[21:43] <Lostinspace_46> lfaraone,  Well finding a key is part of my problem.  For instance, the key for launchpad.
[21:43] <pw-toxic> ikonia, thanks. I'll remember this as an option, but first i will look for a working webinterface ;)
[21:43] <lfaraone> gamepro127: what is it stuck on?
[21:43] <ikonia> shane2peru: yes
[21:43] <lfaraone> Lostinspace_46: there is no "key for launchpad"
[21:43] <indy_> i've just installed the standard Ubuntu desktop cd and right-clicked on the Music folder and said share
[21:43] <lfaraone> Lostinspace_46: each PPA has their own key
[21:43] <indy_> i think it's samba
[21:43] <shane2peru> ikonia, yes what?  ;)
[21:43] <slimjimflim> indy_: then 'mount /dev/<your device> share'
[21:43] <lfaraone> Lostinspace_46: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
[21:43] <windows7jk> any ATI experts out there?
[21:43] <Markive> fccf perfect.. you are a star, i've added the audio you helped me rip to one of my youtube videos
[21:43] <ikonia> shane2peru: typo
[21:44] <ikonia> !ati | windows7jk
[21:44] <pw-toxic> ikonia, setting up the firewall is only an example task.. i also want to manage my sharings of samba, or the subdomains of my webserver
[21:44] <windows7jk> need to upgrade drivers for x800 on karmic
[21:44] <slimjimflim> indy_: i forget how to do that
[21:44] <shane2peru> ikonia, I figured, since I just logged on. :)
[21:44] <pw-toxic> meganerd, by the way, there is no security problem, since the server only runs on a local trusted network
[21:44] <genii> fccf: Great, now you're an accomplice... ;)
[21:44] <ikonia> pw-toxic: web interfaces for that sort of thing is not a good idea, they are not stable, but that's your experience
[21:44] <indy_> slimjimflim: but one thing is that i made the share on the server readonly because my family use it and i don't want them to be able to delete
[21:44] <pw-toxic> ikonia, stable in which sense? that the interface crashes or the whole server?
[21:45] <pw-toxic> ikonia, the interface crashing would be no problem
[21:45] <ikonia> pw-toxic: managing a server through a web interface
[21:45] <indy_> i'm trying to mimic what i used to have setup in Windows
[21:45] <meganerd> pw-toxic: for me security is only part of it, the web interface is just too slow for me
[21:45] <fccf> genii: notice my screenname is unaffiliated ... GUILTY
[21:45] <pw-toxic> ikonia, yes, but stable in which sense?  do you mean that the server could crash by using a webinterface?
[21:45] <shane2peru> ok, is dell basically the only place that I can get a pre-installed linux netbook?  besides of course system76
[21:45] <Younder>  Using bc.. doing sqrt(1) gives 1. Is there a way to make to floating pont or is it broken?
[21:45] <Dougal> I'm trying to access a file over ssh, I'm getting contradictory information: "ls lyn*" as a command returns 'lynx.cfg' but when i try to open it, or even search for it directly with ls... it's not there. It seems not to exist except when I search with the wildcard
[21:45] <gamepro127> I would just buy an old Windows XP Notebook and install Ubuntu on it
[21:45] <pw-toxic> meganerd, well, for me its a speed up, because i change things very seldom. So i cant remember all the commands, sincie i dont use them very often
[21:45] <fccf> shane2peru: eeepc? runs xandros linux
[21:45] <blakkheim> shane2peru: you could try to get one without windows and then install it yourself
[21:46] <ikonia> pw-toxic: no, but web interfaces often hang/crash/fail leaving your machine in an unknown states, there are massive securit implications to giving your webserver full acess to your server
[21:46] <gamepro127> or go to some yard sales and buy a PC their
[21:46] <meganerd> Dougal: ls -la lyn*, what does that show?
[21:46] <Lostinspace_46> lfaraone, I have spent a long time reading there. It has helped. It,s the way apt-key, gpg, GnuPG all interact that is confusing.
[21:46] <shane2peru> blakkheim, I want my $ to count towards Linux, I don't want Microsoft getting a cut.
[21:46] <pw-toxic> ikonia, well as i already said - the server runs only on a local network, where all participants can be trusted
[21:46] <shane2peru> fccf, eeepc (Asus) cut Linux, and said Microsoft is better.
[21:46] <ikonia> pw-toxic: if you don't make many chances, just learn to run the server through the relevant tools
[21:47] <blakkheim> shane2peru: MS has already been paid by the OEM that installs windows, MS doesn't get your money when you buy the computer
[21:47] <meganerd> pw-toxic: fair enough, I am just letting you know where I come from so you can evaluate my suggestions appropriately
[21:47] <lfaraone> Lostinspace_46: open /usr/bin/apt-key in a text editor :)
[21:47] <pw-toxic> ikonia, one usecase: after a year, i have to set up a new subdomain. I dont remember how to do this, although i have alredy done this
[21:47] <gamepro127> Ok something is up
[21:47] <gamepro127> Big Beeping noise
[21:47] <ikonia> pw-toxic: so research it when you need it, or make a note of it
[21:47] <shane2peru> blakkheim, that is good to know, but I would still like to "show' the retail company that Linux does have market share, little though it may be
[21:47] <pw-toxic> ikonia, additionally, i want to set up a new SVN repository, but again, i cant remember all the steps ;(
[21:48] <gamepro127> Phew
[21:48] <blakkheim> shane2peru: they don't care if you don't buy it. if you want to tell them, tell them in person
[21:48] <ikonia> pw-toxic: so research it and do it and make a note (web interfaces don't normally interface with svn either)
[21:48] <gamepro127> Damnit
[21:48] <pw-toxic> ikonia, we'll I am a System designer, and i my eyes, its very important, to make simple tasks simple ;)
[21:48] <Lostinspace_46> lfaraone, Hmm, a new dir for me..heheh, I'll look there. Thanks.
[21:48] <ikonia> pw-toxic: you're making it harder - but it's up to you what you do
[21:48] <pw-toxic> ikonia, well i hope ebox gets fixed soon ;((
[21:48] <giovanni_> salve
[21:49] <shane2peru> ok, back to original question, is dell the only one selling netbooks with Linux pre-installed?
[21:49] <lfaraone> !fhs > Lostinspace_46
[21:49] <NCS_One> how do I see if its 32 or 64 bits ?
[21:49] <ikonia> NCS_One: uname -a
[21:49] <ikonia> NCS_One: show me the output
[21:49] <slimjimflim> oh i got it
[21:49] <lfaraone> NCS_One: also, the "arch" command.
[21:50] <slimjimflim> fyi, to disable extra ttys rm the file(s) /etc/init/ttyX.conf where X is the tty number
[21:50] <fccf> shane2peru: sylvania has one http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=85992
[21:50] <GSF1200S> I cannot get sound to play from more than one source at a time.. any ideas?
[21:50] <Thunder_star> can you help me slimjim
[21:51] <slimjimflim> Thunder_star: idk, you have to ask me a question before i'll know
[21:51] <meganerd> pw-toxic: check out the luci project: http://luci.subsignal.org/
[21:51] <drazak> Hey there, I'm running 64-bit ubuntu, but I need the 32-bit opengl driver for my videocard, I have an ati x1440
[21:51] <slimjimflim> Thunder_star: a good rule to follow on irc is 'don't ask to ask, just ask'
[21:51] <drazak> what's the best way to install there?
[21:51] <shane2peru> fccf, thanks, it is a bit more than the dell's and seems like less hardware, but thanks for the info.
[21:51] <Thunder_star> trying to set away nick in konversation but every one i set it returns message erronious nickname
[21:51] <NCS_One> ikonia: "Linux myname 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux"
[21:51] <ikonia> drazak: your xserver is 64 bit
[21:51] <lfaraone> Thunder_star: what is your target nick?
[21:51] <ikonia> NCS_One: that's 32bit
[21:51] <meganerd> drazak: why do you need a 32 bit driver?  everything else is 64
[21:52] <slimjimflim> idk, i use irssi
[21:52] <drazak> meganerd: wine
[21:52] <Thunder_star> ahh
[21:52] <slimjimflim> irssi pwns
[21:52] <Dougal> meganerd: it shows up
[21:52] <meganerd> drazak: it won't work
[21:52] <meganerd> If you get it working I would love to know how
[21:52] <Thunder_star> lfaraone i trying to use t_star|away
[21:52] <meganerd> Dougal: but what are the permissions?
[21:52] <NCS_One> ikonia: for 64bits have to download a diferent Ubuntu ?
[21:53] <ikonia> NCS_One: yes, the 64bit install
[21:53] <lfaraone> !away | Thunder_star
[21:53] <drazak> meganerd: well then, here's my wine error, tell me how to fix it, the wine people said to install a 32bit opengl driver http://pastebin.com/H5TQci75 , and yes, I did a glxinfo |grep Direct and direct rendering is on
[21:53] <shane2peru> fccf, this is what I'm looking at currently http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[21:53] <rossi> ola
[21:54] <ikonia> !es | rossi
[21:54] <petrichor> hi-- my ubuntu is going very slow with 100% CPU usage (intel core 2 duo) e8400 -- system process "mono" is taking up like 100% of the CPU. what is this and can i kill it/remove it via synaptic?
[21:54] <ikonia> petrichor: what mono application are you running
[21:54] <rossi> españoles kuantos hay??
[21:54] <alankila> petrichor: some application written using C# is buggy.
[21:54] <petrichor> i'm not sure which mono app it is
[21:54] <Deviance> Hello, I need some help with ubuntu, if someone is avalible?
[21:54] <ikonia> !es | rossi
[21:54] <alankila> petrichor: mono is the virtual machine for it
[21:54] <Thunder_star> okies it ry that thnx
[21:54] <NCS_One> ikonia: each one is it ? I only see 64 for AMD
[21:54] <petrichor> it just shows up as "mono" in the system monitor
[21:54] <ikonia> petrichor: kill them all and work it through
[21:55] <drazak> petrichor: top, then k, then the pid of mono
[21:55] <ikonia> NCS_One: amd is 64bit for intel
[21:55] <alankila> petrichor: use ps auxwww|grep mono or similar command on command line
[21:55] <rossi> ikonia eres española??
[21:55] <ikonia> drazak: ask a question then
[21:55] <ikonia> rossi: no
[21:55] <rossi> spanish??
[21:55] <drazak> ikonia: how do I resolve this issue http://pastebin.com/H5TQci75
[21:55] <rossi> ok
[21:55] <Dougal> -rw-r--r--   1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-25 08:17 lynx.cfg
[21:55] <slimjimflim> Thunder_star: you should ask in #konversation
[21:55] <Deviance> I burnt Ubuntu on CD usin Infra, than Iso burner and each time i get error message when i try to start Ubuntu
[21:55] <fccf> shane2peru: not bad for the $$ but personally I need a little more machine
[21:55] <rossi> ruben
[21:55] <NCS_One> ikonia: so its this one : ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:55] <meganerd> Dougal: sudo chown <your username> lynx*
[21:56] <petrichor> k what do i do with this info alan?
[21:56] <ikonia> NCS_One: yes
[21:56] <shane2peru> fccf, yes, this is for my wife, email, web, word processing, and of course facebook, that is it!
[21:56] <petrichor> oh, gnome-do
[21:56] <NCS_One> ikonia: ok, thanks
[21:56] <petrichor> is the mono
[21:56] <blakkheim> shane2peru: why not build a small form factor pc and install linux?
[21:56] <Deviance> I burnt Ubuntu on CD usin Infra, than Iso burner and each time i get error message when i try to start Ubuntu. Can anyone help me with this?
[21:56] <slimjimflim> Deviance: don't ask to ask just ask :D
[21:56] <shane2peru> fccf, and for when I travel, I can take it with me
[21:56] <fccf> shane2peru: perfect computer for her ... get her the pink or purple one
[21:57] <Nerdtastic> Deviance: what error message?
[21:57] <alankila> petrichor: yes, now you know what program is the buggy one. Maybe the gnome-do is merely indexing your system for files or something, I don't know if it's actually buggy, of course.
[21:57] <shane2peru> blakkheim, I live in Peru, getting all the parts is difficult, I'm having someone bring it in for us.
[21:57] <petrichor> yea
[21:57] <rafal> hello
[21:57] <shane2peru> fccf, she is too practicle, doesn't want to spend $40 for color.
[21:57] <rafal> czesc
[21:57] <gamepro127> Could anybody help my friend? He has xbuntu. He recently done the update. On reboot, his monitor remained black and the xbuntu logo never appeared.
[21:57] <petrichor> so i should sudo apt-get remove gnome-do ?
[21:58] <blakkheim> petrichor: aptitude purge gnome-do would be better
[21:58] <shane2peru> blakkheim, I had my machine re-built here, and it was quite a bit more, and I didn't have much choice in parts.
[21:58] <petrichor> k
[21:58] <fccf> shane2peru: I see your point, regardless, that is a good entry-level pc for someone who isn't doing heavy number crunching or graphics
[21:58] <shane2peru> blakkheim, I certainly can't do it for that price.
[21:58] <Deviance> Nerdtastic: It startes well, shows me that screen and options, and when i try to run it, it says "Error reading boot CD."
[21:58] <blakkheim> shane2peru: oh ok
[21:58] <meganerd> drazak: I have the same problem with 3d in wine (and 3d in virtualbox).  I stopped troubleshooting when I was told to get the 32bit drivers (actually I was told to run the 32 bit version of Ubuntu, which is not going to happen for me)
[21:58] <gamepro127> Could anybody help my friend? He has xbuntu. He recently done the update. On reboot, his monitor remained black and the xbuntu logo never appeared.
[21:58] <blakkheim> !repeat | gamepro127
[21:59] <vmarcetic> when i press w key on my keyboard i get number 3 (before that i didn`t even have any character on that key, but I installed zboard driver and know i get this)
[21:59] <drazak> meganerd: I don't really care, but I would like to know if anyone has any ideas, I googled for it a little
[21:59] <alankila> meganerd: you probably aren't the guy who wrote libresample everyone is using?
[21:59] <Nerdtastic> Deviance: Is this the same computer that the CD was burned on?
[21:59] <petrichor> going to restart
[21:59] <eliteSchaf> hey guys
[22:00] <drazak> meganerd: also, diablo2 works fine, which is 3d
[22:00] <eliteSchaf> where should i set my $PATH var, so gedit uses it?
[22:00] <meganerd> drazak: if someone has a solution I would love to know it
[22:00] <Deviance> Nerdtastic: No, not the same. I burn it on the PC, than try to run on my laptop because Windows went to hell and wont start, than i try to run on another laptop (works perfectly) and I still get the same message
[22:00] <gamepro127> hmm
[22:01] <meganerd> drazak: I am just trying to run gratuitous space battles, which for me fails
[22:01] <drazak> meganerd: I'm very seriously considering making a ~10gb partition for windows
[22:01] <Deviance> Nerdtastic: Could it be that i missed something during the burning proces?
[22:01] <drazak> meganerd: homeworld 2? that's what I'm trying to run! :P
[22:01] <pw-toxic> meganerd, can you tell me, how i can statically assign an ip addresse to a namespace?
[22:01] <meganerd> alankila: no, I am involved with various audio projects, but I did not write libresample
[22:02] <meganerd> drazak: great game, I liked that whole series
[22:02] <meganerd> drazak: I never did finish either of them.  I have a problem with attention spans exceeding an hour or two
[22:02] <alankila> meganerd: a coincidence. Actually what I talked about was libsamplerate. But this guy is "Erik de Castro Lopo", apparently, and it's called libsamplerate, now that I checked, at mega-nerd.com
[22:02] <Dougal> meganerd: doesn't seem to have had much effect
[22:03] <drazak> meganerd: yeah, I'm pretty far in hw2, I copied my saved game folder from my 32bit ubuntu box, and wanted to continue on this one
[22:03] <drazak> apparently... not
[22:03] <vmarcetic> how to change a keybind to keyboard key???