[10:58] <Jordan_U> teemo: To get your grub.cfg as a file on your Desktop that you can read run "sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tee ~/Desktop/grub.cfg"
[10:59] <teemo> ok that worked
[10:59] <teemo> now do i edit and save it back in cat/boot/grub
[10:59] <llutz> easier "cp /boot/grub/grub.cfg ~Desktop/"
[11:00] <its-me-again> hello how do i find the corectr drive lables in terminal
[11:00] <teemo> hmm... # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[11:00] <llutz> ~/Desktop**
[11:00] <Viking667> you pastebin in
[11:00] <mquin> metalgeek: actually, I might be misremembering - for a bit of poking around 'smstools' seems to be what you need if you want to talk to a modem directly, rather than using an internet gateway service
[11:00] <Jordan_U> llutz: It's only readable by root by default as it may contain plain text passwords.
[11:00] <well_laid_lawn> its-me-again: you could try   sudo fdisk -l
[11:00] <Viking667> I just want to see what it looks like to begin with.
[11:00] <llutz> Jordan_U: but world-readable
[11:00] <Jordan_U> llutz: No.
[11:01] <Viking667> teemo: sorry I got lost in the ether, my machine was having a swapping fit
[11:01] <llutz> Jordan_U: it is
[11:01] <teemo> Viking667: im still here :)
[11:01] <rob_p> teemo: You put your customizations in /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ otherwise your changes will be lost whenever update-grub is run.
[11:01] <Viking667> teemo: you know how to use a pastebin, and have you upgraded your grub to grub2?
[11:01] <Viking667> rob_p: there's a reason I want to see grub.cfg, I wanted to see if it got written.
[11:02] <Jordan_U> llutz: Not in Ubuntu 10.04, that's why when he tried to read it initially he got permission denied.
[11:02] <Viking667> teemo: by the way, what's in /boot for kernels too? Might as well pastebin that.
[11:02] <ii> when you purge grub, a friendly dialog box asks you if you want to delete /boot/grub
[11:02] <teemo> Viking667: how do i check my grub version?
[11:02] <Kartagis> its-me-again df
[11:02] <Kartagis> its-me-again or mount
[11:02] <ii> when a configuration is screwed up because someone was only following a tutorial, they dont learn anything by fixing it
[11:02] <Viking667> what was at the top of the grub screen when you rebooted?
[11:02] <Viking667> It should say.
[11:03] <rob_p> Viking667: That's fine.  I just want him/her to know that he/she should modify things in the appropriate locations if he/she desires.
[11:03] <qbitza> 'ello Please help
[11:03] <Viking667> i.e. mine did say grub-0.97 for a while, now it says grub-1.99 or something
[11:03] <Kartagis> Viking667 well, how do I use DRI in virtualbox?
[11:03] <qbitza> When I try to join a Win7 Box to my PDC Domain I get:
[11:03] <Viking667> rob_p: true. I found the "appropriate" locations
[11:03] <Viking667> Kartagis: I don't know if you can yet,
[11:03] <qbitza> [2010/07/19 12:02:37,  0] rpc_server/srv_netlog_nt.c:603(_netr_ServerAuthenticate3)
[11:03] <ader10> Well, thanks for trying to help, guys
[11:03] <qbitza>   _netr_ServerAuthenticate3: netlogon_creds_server_check failed. Rejecting auth request from client SD-DEV-SO-02 machine account SD-DEV-SO-02$
[11:03] <qbitza> Any ideas?
[11:04] <cage_raphel> hello... my menu.lst  file is empty.. what do i  do to get it fixed
[11:05] <Kars> im installing lubuntu on another pc, but its stays stuck at 89% (running dpkg).. what should i do?
[11:05] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Machine > Settings > Display > Enable 3D accelleration
[11:05] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | cage_raphel
[11:06] <cage_raphel> ubottu: thanks!
[11:06] <Viking667> Jordan_U: huh? They support it now?
[11:06] <Kartagis> Jordan_U is 3d acceleration == VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration?
[11:07] <Viking667> no
[11:07] <teemo> Viking667: 1.98
[11:07] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: No, they are separate.
[11:07] <Viking667> teemo: good.
[11:07] <Viking667> then you should be on grub2
[11:07] <teemo> :)
[11:07] <scriptwarlock> ader10: still no luck?
[11:07] <Viking667> teemo: now, how about pastebinning that grub.cfg SO I CAN LOOK AT IT already???
[11:07] <ader10> still no luck :(
[11:07] <llutz> Jordan_U: just checked here, my 10.04 installation seems to be broken then:grub.cfg root:root 644
[11:07] <Kartagis> Jordan_U how can I enable VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration then? or can I?
[11:07] <Viking667> teemo: and, what's still in your /boot directories?
[11:07] <madrid> ubuntu says that these repositories are not authenticated , can i istall these?: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/jaunty.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[11:07] <madrid> Y luego añade su clave pública con este comando:
[11:07] <madrid> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[11:07] <FloodBot1> madrid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <aeon-ltd> Viking667: CAPSLOCK RAGE!!!!!!
[11:08] <teemo> Viking667: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3gsreSJ
[11:08] <Viking667> Kartagis: ah, my mistake. I thought you meant 3D video card acceleration
[11:08] <ii> teemo, i'm pretty sure you can just "uninstall it and then reinstall it", it's really easy
[11:08] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: It's something that your hardware must support, you can check if it does by running the command "kvm-ok".
[11:08] <Kars> im installing lubuntu on another pc, but its stays stuck at 89% (running dpkg).. also can move the cursor. is this normal?
[11:08] <teemo> ii: uninstall what?
[11:09] <Kartagis> Jordan_U it says KVM acceleration can NOT be used :|
[11:09] <chilli0> How can I change the file type of a file?
[11:09] <Viking667> teemo: thank you. What's in /boot now?
[11:09] <Kartagis> chilli0 convert it?
[11:10] <chilli0> Kartagis, It's weird. Its with gedit. When ever I save a .php it changes the file type to php., I want it as text
[11:10] <Viking667> then I'll need /etc/grub/40_custom
[11:10] <apple> hi there?
[11:10] <Q_Continuum> Finally upgraded my desktop from 9.10 to 10.04 (64-bit) and when it boots up, I'm getting a black screen.  I hear the boot sound, but don't see anything past grub.  (AMD CPU, Radeon HD3200 IGP, HD5770 GPU)
[11:10] <teemo> Viking667: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Qgk4ygDk
[11:10] <Viking667> Q_Continuum: tonight must be a night for blank screens...
[11:10] <Viking667> MaRk-I: your baby?
[11:10] <Q_Continuum> I don't have anything installed in this copy of Ubuntu (more testing out my gaming rig's Ubuntu compatibility) so if a fresh install is easier, not a big deal for me.
[11:10] <MaRk-I> lol Viking667
[11:11] <ii> teemo: you can run synaptic, then do a "complete removal" of grub packages (wiping out /boot/grub) and then install grub-pc (grub 2).  When you install grub-pc, it asks what partitions you want included in the grub menu.
[11:11] <Viking667> I know you know the link... you've only typed it like nine times today.
[11:11] <MaRk-I> Q_Continuum: try this http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/
[11:11] <alin_> Can you use padevchooser to stream to a PC using a openVPN ?
[11:11] <ii> teemo: a "complete removal" removes all configuration files
[11:11] <Viking667> hmm. So that's not it.
[11:11] <ii> teemo: and let's you start fresh
[11:11] <Viking667> ii: I suspect he's got to grub2 already.
[11:12] <Viking667> but his grub.cfg isn't being rewritten
[11:12] <Q_Continuum> Viking667, MaRk-I, thanks - I'll work on it after I figure out which flash drive I had an Ubuntu installation image on...
[11:12] <Jordan_U> ii: You are misunderstanding what that menu means.
[11:12] <RossTaylor> ok for the chmod command, i know how to change the permission for the directories and files, but how do you change the permissions for a directory and all of its files in one chmod command
[11:12] <Viking667> teemo: see whatthis does:  sudo update-grub2
[11:12] <Viking667> then pastebin what you've got for a /boot/grub/grub.cfg again.
[11:12] <Jordan_U> teemo: Can you pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc"?
[11:12] <alin_> can I use padevchooser with openVPN ?
[11:12] <teemo> command not found
[11:12] <Viking667> teemo: do mine after Jordan_U
[11:12] <ii> oh come on he probably just messed up a configuration file, trust in the dpkg!!
[11:12] <Viking667> huh?
[11:13] <Viking667> update-grub2
[11:13] <skumara> name one good torrent client?
[11:13] <Viking667> rtorrent
[11:13] <teemo> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/aBr4LdSW
[11:14] <teemo> Viking667: Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[11:14] <Viking667> teemo: ... huh?
[11:15] <ii> skumara: I forgot about that nvidia issue you were having, still need help with that?
[11:15] <Kars> what to do if the install of a distro stops halfway?
[11:15] <Viking667> teemo: by the way, I suspect you forgot to check in /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[11:15] <airtonix> Kars, start again ?
[11:16] <teemo> how can i open it again, its giving me permission denied
[11:16] <Kars> you mena just reboot? airtonix
[11:16] <airtonix> Kars, isn't that what you'd do on ANY operating system ?
[11:16] <Viking667> open what again?
[11:16] <cage_raphel> hello.. i have solaris 10 and ubuntu 9.1 installed in my comp.. however after installing ubuntu i am not able to dual boot .. it directly goes to ubuntu.. how can i boot solaris 10 now
[11:16] <Jordan_U> teemo: To get your grub.cfg as a file on your Desktop that you can read run "sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | tee ~/Desktop/grub.cfg"
[11:16] <skumara> ii i did edit xconfig and did these change resolution to 1280x768. problem solved. tq anyway
[11:16] <airtonix> Kars, how do you know its stopped ?
[11:16] <metalgeek> mquin, I have found an app but it wants to know which port my modem is on????? My modem is on a usb connection. How do i find out the ports adress?
[11:16] <teemo> i already pasted that
[11:16] <Kars> yes, i cant move my cursor and its stuck at 89% now
[11:16] <Kars> for 45 minutes
[11:16] <teemo> tp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3gsreSJ
[11:16] <airtonix> !grub | cage_raphel,
[11:17] <Viking667> teemo: first of all, run this:   sudo /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[11:17] <teemo> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d3gsreSJ
[11:17] <airtonix> cage_raphel, you need to update grub
[11:17] <airtonix> (the grub listing that is)
[11:17] <Kars> i cant move my cursor and its stuck at 89% now for 45 min. i guess ill just reboot then
[11:17] <teemo> Viking667: sudo: /usr/sbin/update-grub2: command not found
[11:17] <Jordan_U> cage_raphel: Does "sudo os-prober" output anything?
[11:17] <Viking667> teemo: sheesh. It's not your night.
[11:18] <Viking667> teemo: dpkg -L grub-pc > some-file; pastebin some-file
[11:18] <Viking667> 'cos update-grub2 is in grub-pc package
[11:18] <Kars> what is a good distro for a 3000Mhz, 512RAM for a beginner to linux?
[11:18] <Jordan_U> Viking667: update-grub is in the grub-common package.
[11:18] <teemo> maybe i dont have grub 2
[11:18] <Viking667> I'd also suggest reinstalling that if we don't find it.
[11:18] <teemo> how do install it?
[11:18] <RossTaylor> ok for the chmod command, i know how to change the permission for the directories and files, but how do you change the permissions for a directory and all of its files in one chmod command
[11:18] <metalgeek> Generally, what are the addresses for usb devices under linux
[11:19] <cage_raphel> Jordan_U:  i typed sudo os-prober in the terminal.. nothing happened..
[11:19] <Viking667> Jordan_U: and update-grub2 is in the grub-pc package
[11:19] <bouaza> salut
[11:19] <Viking667> teemo: 10.04 ?
[11:19] <ii> metalgeek: you mean in the /dev filesystem?
[11:19] <aeon-ltd> Kars: ubuntu/crunchbang/mint
[11:19] <Kars> ubuntu is too heavy i think
[11:19] <teemo> Viking667: yes
[11:19] <metalgeek> I think so, Im running ubuntu
[11:19] <mquin> metalgeek: probably ttyUSB0 - if you type 'dmesg' after plugging it in you should see which device it pops up on
[11:19] <Viking667> Kars: try xubuntu
[11:19] <Jordan_U> Viking667: You're right, it's grub-mkconfig that's in grub-common.
[11:19] <Kars> hm i read xubuntu was light , but not anymore since new updates :P
[11:19] <johnnylee194> hi, is there anyone could kindly help me on a grub issue?
[11:20] <bouaza> comment sa va
[11:20] <Jordan_U> !anyone | johnnylee194
[11:20] <aeon-ltd> Kars: crunchbang is still light
[11:20] <Kars> okay
[11:20] <bouaza> ok thinks
[11:20] <mquin> the stick I have registers two ttyUSB devices, one for data and one to report statistics and allow the modem to be queried while there is a data connection active
[11:20] <metalgeek> mquin, so plug in my modem and open a terminal, then type dmesg? yes
[11:20] <teemo> johnnylee194: i advice u to run away now
[11:20] <Kars> i was gonna try lubuntu but i dont think its user friendly and it doesnt install for me
[11:20] <Jordan_U> !fr | bouaza
[11:20] <mquin> metalgeek: yep
[11:20] <ii> johnnylee194: what's your problem?
[11:21] <teemo> Viking667: do u think the uninstall/re-install would work?
[11:21] <metalgeek> Cool, will go try, bye for now and thanks
[11:21] <Viking667> teemo: so, go grab a "dpkg -L grub-pc" listing, shove that up to your friendly pastebin and I'll take a look.
[11:21] <johnnylee194> thanks guys, I want to show the grub screen
[11:21] <johnnylee194> But I lost my sudo, and the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET is set to true...
[11:21] <ii> pardon?
[11:21] <Kars> lol there goes another cd for burning a new distro
[11:21] <Viking667> teemo: possibly. Here's a really quick check...   dpkg -L grub-pc | wc -l
[11:21] <Viking667> gimme that number
[11:22] <Viking667> should equal 240 lines
[11:22]  * Viking667 wishes there was a verify-all-files-instaled for a dpkg
[11:22] <Jordan_U> teemo: Did you ever run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy"?
[11:22] <ii> johnnylee194: you lost your sudo? you mean you forgot the password to your account?
[11:22] <Viking667> I did ask him that, but never got a reply
[11:22] <teemo> Viking667: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/maiKka6C
[11:22] <Jordan_U> Viking667: debsums :)
[11:23] <johnnylee194> First, I've mistakenly removed myself from sudo list. And when I want to enter recovery mode, I can't find the grub screen. And when I check the /etc/default/grub, and find the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET is set to true. Is there anyway that I can re-add myself to the sudo list?
[11:23] <teemo> Viking667: 3
[11:23] <ii> ah I think you hold shift as it boot
[11:23] <ii> and the menu appears
[11:23] <johnnylee194> @li: no, I mistakenly used group add command
[11:23] <teemo> Jordan_U: no
[11:23] <ocs> hi. I need a command line application that moves program with some pid to a specified workspace. I used wmctrl some time ago, but it seems buggy on ubuntu 10.04 (I have 5 active workspaces but if I show the desktops number with wmctrl it only sees the active desktop)
[11:23] <Viking667> teemo: you need to reinstall that package, bad
[11:24] <Jordan_U> teemo: You need to do that.
[11:24] <johnnylee194> @li: thanks, i'll try
[11:24] <ocs> any suggestion?
[11:24] <teemo> ok, whats the package name?
[11:24] <Viking667> teemo: so, go do what Jordan_U says
[11:24] <ii> otherwise you could boot to a liveCD and use chroot
[11:24] <Viking667>  Jordan_U> teemo: Did you ever run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy"?
[11:24] <teemo> Viking667: sudo: upgrade-from-grub-legacy: command not found
[11:24] <Viking667> oh, f00k
[11:25] <Viking667> Right. We'llrun it from the commandline.
[11:25] <teemo> cant i use synaptics?
[11:25] <ii> YES
[11:25] <Viking667> YES!!!
[11:25] <ii> YES YOU CAN
[11:25] <johnnylee194> @ii: thanks for the hints
[11:25] <Jordan_U> teemo: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:25] <Viking667> go get grub-pc, make sure it shows 1.99x
[11:25]  * airtonix thinks ii is lying.
[11:25] <cage_raphel> how do  i dual boot solaris 10 and ubuntu... somebody help! i searched enough on the internet and nothing worked!
[11:25] <teemo> 10.04
[11:25] <Viking667> Jordan_U: he said 10.04
[11:25] <ii> You should just purge the packages first
[11:25] <airtonix> cage_raphel, um...
[11:25] <ii> Right click on the packages
[11:25] <teemo> whats the package name
[11:25] <ii> and do "complete removal"
[11:25] <Viking667> grub-pc
[11:25] <ii> in synaptics
[11:25] <ii> search for grub
[11:25] <ii> purge eveyrthing
[11:26] <FloodBot1> ii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <teemo> its not installed
[11:26] <Viking667> then reinstall it
[11:26] <ii> using "complete removal"
[11:26] <teemo> according to synaptics
[11:26]  * airtonix searchs for iis' enter key
[11:26] <teemo> there is also grub2?
[11:26] <teemo> should i install that while am at it?
[11:26] <Viking667> yes, there is
[11:26] <Viking667> Add that.
[11:26] <faLUCE> hi. I need a command line application that moves program with some pid to a specified workspace. I used wmctrl some time ago, but it seems buggy on ubuntu 10.04 (I have 5 active workspaces but if I show the desktops number with wmctrl it only sees the active desktop)
[11:26] <teemo> applying
[11:26] <Jordan_U> faLUCE: devispie may do what you want.
[11:27] <teemo> done
[11:27] <nmvictor> i have a weired jde-build-function customization buffer at: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1148, will someone please look at it, i feel like it misses the [STATE] button and whenever i use the [Save for future session button]
[11:27] <Jordan_U> faLUCE: *devilspie
[11:27] <cage_raphel> how do i add a solaris 10 entry to my grub menu?
[11:27] <Viking667> teemo: now your grub-pc should have a version of:  Version: 1.98-1ubuntu6
[11:27] <aeon-ltd> faLUCE: if you wanted full management of windows why don't you just tile and use tags?
[11:27] <teemo> it already did
[11:27] <Jordan_U> cage_raphel: You'll need to add an entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom. Ask in #grub for details.
[11:27] <teemo> do u want me to restart and check
[11:28] <cage_raphel> Jordan_U: thank u
[11:28] <faLUCE> aeon-ltd: I don't understand
[11:28] <Jordan_U> cage_raphel: You're welcome.
[11:28] <Viking667> no, not yet
[11:28] <Viking667> teemo: no, not yet.
[11:28] <Viking667> I suspect you migrate your existing grub first (menu.lst)
[11:28] <teemo> i wonder what happens if i run sudo update-grub2?
[11:28] <Viking667> teemo: run that command that Jordan_U suggested
[11:29] <Q_Continuum> Viking667, MaRk-I, that didn't work.  ('xforcevesa' for ATI still gives me a blank screen on boot, I did see the boot splash for a second though)
[11:29] <faLUCE> aeon-ltd: I want to make sure that myApplication starts automatically on desktop 2
[11:29] <Viking667> sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
[11:29] <Puck`> hi everyone
[11:29] <SwedeMike> !hi | Puck`
[11:29] <teemo> ok
[11:29] <teemo> now what?
[11:29] <Viking667> Q_Continuum: yeah, I haven't fixed that problem either.
[11:29] <Puck`> a notice to ops: a user from the mask: gateway/web/freenode/ip.<IP_ADDRESS> - it sais he's banned, if anyone could look in to it, it would be awesome (:
[11:30] <Misterio> Puck`: #ubuntu-ops would be better place :)
[11:30] <teemo> so its waiting for me to select one of my devices?
[11:30] <Viking667> teemo: now, go do this:   sudo mv /boot/grub/grub.cfg /boot/grub/grub-cfg; sudo /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[11:30] <HamEd> kasi FarSi BalaDeH
[11:30] <HamEd> :D
[11:30] <DRavisher> Anyone know how to figure out which ATI catalyst version is installed?
[11:31] <erUSUL> !version
[11:31] <Q_Continuum> Viking667, so no other fixes for ATI cards on blank screen on boot?
[11:31] <coz_> DRavisher,   I dont but you might be able to go to #radeon channel
[11:31] <Viking667> Q_Continuum: none I know of.
[11:32] <Viking667> mind you, I get text mode. it just looks weird.
[11:32] <Viking667> ANyhow you lot, I have to depart.
[11:32] <Q_Continuum> Crud.  Then I guess I won't be using Ubuntu on my desktop for awhile yet.
[11:32] <Viking667> teemo: I'll leave you in Jordan_U's obviously capable hands
[11:32] <Q_Continuum> Thanks for the attempted help.
[11:32] <Viking667> heh. Ta.
[11:32] <teemo> Viking667: thank you for your help
[11:32] <teemo> thanks a lot
[11:32] <Viking667> 's okay. I'm used to it.
[11:33] <Jordan_U> teemo: Select your hard drive, most likely "/dev/sda" and *no* partitions (/dev/sda1).
[11:33] <aruntomar> has anyone been successfull in deploying multiseat
[11:33] <teemo> Jordan_U: are u sure?
[11:33] <ii> select ONLY /dev/sda
[11:33] <Jordan_U> teemo: Yes.
[11:33] <teemo> ok done
[11:34] <teemo> restart and try/
[11:34] <teemo> ?
[11:34] <teemo> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/miazJddN
[11:35] <hackjkp> helllo
[11:35] <erUSUL> !hi
[11:35] <Jordan_U> teemo: Yes, but have a LiveCD ready in case anything goes wrong.
[11:35] <hackjkp> anyone can tell me why wget etc doesnt work after i set env variable http_proxy
[11:35] <teemo> :(
[11:36] <Diverdude> Is there any way to convert a pdf file ( its 1 page) to a image, like png?
[11:36] <teemo> how can i check the contents of my grub file now?
[11:36] <teemo> before restarting
[11:36] <hackjkp> !help
[11:36] <erUSUL> Diverdude: first get a pdf of the one page  ( easiest way print to a pdf in evince) then use convert to turn it into a png
[11:36] <gartral2> Diverdude yea.. screendhot works well :p
[11:37] <ii> ubottu's friendly reminder takes more space than the question preambles.....
[11:39] <gartral2> !botsnack
[11:39] <thoeger> Hello Ubuntu folks - having a little problem building some software (vpfit for fitting astronomical spoectra) on Ubuntu Lucid. The software looks for X libs in /usr/X11R6/lib, which obviously is obsolete - but where to look forthem then? I need to edit the makefile...
[11:40] <ii> /usr/include/X11, maybe?
[11:40] <madrid> ,to turn off the computer when the downloads finish is there any program in linux?
[11:41] <skumara> madrid what program u use to download?
[11:41] <thoeger> ii, in include/, not in lib/...? /me mystified
[11:41] <scriptwarlock> Diverdude: http://convert.neevia.com/pdfconvert/
[11:41] <ii> I have no idea :( however, you can just use dpkg to list the contents of different packages, including the X11 ones
[11:42] <madrid> shumara vuze drean mule ares and firefox ,chrome
[11:42] <ii> in Synaptic, search for a pakcage, right click, properties, "installed files"
[11:42] <ii> ....just in case you dontget an answer, you could find it yourself
[11:42] <ct529> mmmm! After the last round of updates, many services do not work any more because they do not start at boot time, for example (cups) and TOR.
[11:42] <ii> also if youre looking for some specific file, run sudo updatedb
[11:42] <ct529> anyone with the same issue out there?
[11:42] <ii> and find it using locate
[11:43] <skumara> madrid gshutdown
[11:43] <Misterio> ct529: Doesn't Tor starts at session start?
[11:43] <ct529> nothing starts anymore, cups does not start, polipot does not start, tor does not start
[11:43] <erUSUL> thoeger: follow this http://astrophysics.wikidot.com/install-vpfit
[11:43] <Diverdude> thx all...i could just print it as .ps file and then use gimp to convert it to png and jpeg
[11:43] <erUSUL> thoeger: is for ubuntu 9.04 but should still work ?
[11:44] <thoeger> erUSUL, thanks but I tried and it didn't work. Odd, since it did on another machine (different architecture) a couple of months ago
[11:44] <ct529> Misterio: nothing starts anymore, cups does not start, polipot does not start, tor does not start (sorry forgot to add you nick)
[11:44] <johnnylee194> Q[10.04]: I pressed shift when system boot, and it shows "grub loading", after that, it enters a blank screen with a blinking cursor, what's the problem here?
[11:45] <madrid> skumara, ok I'll try it
[11:45] <Misterio> ct529: Ah, don't worry; And what update did you install?
[11:45] <erUSUL> thoeger: what is the error you get ?
[11:45] <ii> johnnylee194: well I assumed grub was smart enough not to hide the menu if you're manually telling it to display the menu.....
[11:45] <cage_raphel> guys.. please find my sudo fdisk -l  .... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/465856/ .. my question is  it possible to delete the solaris parition so that ubuntu can start using that partition?
[11:45] <ct529> Misterio: I just automatically installed the bugfix and security updates
[11:46] <thoeger> erUSUL, hang on I'll try and find the first one in the output
[11:46] <Jordan_U> johnnylee194: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[11:46] <Misterio> ct529: Synaptic has remove/install/update history, could you check it please?
[11:46] <ii> Jordan_U he doesn't have root
[11:46] <ii> he removed himself from sudoers accidentally
[11:46] <kaioken> Sound is very low in ubuntu ,can't even hear some songs .Whats the problem .I am using ubuntu jaunty and kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:46] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: instead of removing it just reformat it and mount it somewhere ....
[11:47] <cage_raphel> erUSUL: how do i do that ?
[11:47] <johnnylee194> yes..
[11:47] <ct529> Misterio: interesting, I did not know, I most of time use dpkg / *pt-get install
[11:47] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: with gparted ?
[11:47] <ct529> Misterio: how do I look at the history in synaptic?
[11:47] <Gabriel> hey all, just installed new 80G SATA HD and I want to know how to add the extra space to /Home.  ?
[11:47] <cage_raphel> erUSUL: i have opened my gparted now.. could u pls walk me thro.. i am a total linux newbie :)
[11:47] <Misterio> ct529: I am not under gnome right now but; first tab, history
[11:47] <erUSUL> !separatehome | Gabriel
[11:48] <Jordan_U> johnnylee194: Can you boot a LiveCD?
[11:48] <johnnylee194> @Joardan_U: not today, didn't take the LiveCD with me.. :(
[11:48] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: well; gparted should be pretty self explanatory. right click on the partition (sda1) and choose format ext4
[11:48] <Etherael> Lucid system-config-samba appears to be broken; http://pastie.org/1050224 anyone know a fix?
[11:48] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: all data in the partition will be lost
[11:48] <smv> i used a 10.04 live cd to dd zero on a usb stick, after unmounting it, but it didn't zero it. cfdisk and fdisk still show the old fat16 partition. am i doing something wrong?
[11:49] <johnnylee194> It's kinda wired, sometimes the normal boot failed as well, given me the endless blinking cursor screen...
[11:49] <Misterio> ct529: Then pastebin the last log
[11:49] <ct529> Misterio: the history is libusb,linvte-common,libvte9 as last update
[11:49] <Misterio> Ah okay
[11:49] <ii> johnnylee194: when you DO get a liveCD, it's really easy to fix your permissions, just mount your disk and run sudo chroot /path/to/root/of/drive
[11:49] <cage_raphel> erUSUL:  i have done that .. its applying pending operations :)
[11:50] <Jordan_U> smv: Did you zero the drive, like sdb, or the partition, like sdb1? Also, please be *VERY* carefull with dd.
[11:50] <johnnylee194> @ii: okay.. I just want to see whether I could fix it today.. without the LiveCD.. but thanks anyway :)
[11:50] <ii> erm but maybe you can just edit sudoers without chrooting, whatever. but ya, need root.
[11:50] <ii> good luck!
[11:50] <cage_raphel> erUSUL:  its done.. now what should i do ?
[11:50] <hackjkp> leave
[11:50] <Misterio> ct529: See
[11:50] <Misterio> !info libvte9
[11:50] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: dunno; what do you want to use the partition for? i have data partitions mounted in /media/
[11:50] <rioch> where can I download an archive of the default icons in ubuntu (gnome) ?
[11:50] <Jordan_U> johnnylee194: Then maybe the blinking cursor is unrelated to holding shift, try holding shift and booting a few more times.
[11:51] <ct529> I do not really understand .... how do I set all the services to restart?
[11:51] <Misterio> ct529: I think this isn't the problem
[11:51] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: for example for music/videos/etc
[11:51] <ct529> Misterio: it was after that last update
[11:51] <cage_raphel> erUSUL:  i have formated sda1 to ext4.. now i want my ubuntu to use that partition
[11:51] <thoeger> erUSUL, here is my output
[11:51] <thoeger> http://pastebin.org/404863
[11:51] <johnnylee194> @ii: I suppose recovery mode will give me a root window, and so I can solve my permission problem?
[11:51] <smv> Jordan_U, i know how to use it. but i guess time it tricked me. seems like i used sda1 instead of sda. haha
[11:51]  * smv hides
[11:52] <johnnylee194> @Jordan_U: Thanks, I'm trying...
[11:52] <ct529> Misterio: how do I set all the services to restart? I do not know much about upstart yet
[11:52] <Misterio> ct529: I don'r know how to do, never had that problem. Anyways; if you /etc/init.d/service start and reboot? Is it saved?
[11:52] <erUSUL> thoeger: have you installed build-essebtials ?
[11:52] <johnnylee194> holly~ entered recovery mode and see the lovely root shell :D
[11:52] <karthee> Hi .. in centos .. I need to add my own application to get started when the machine reboots. Is it better to add the start script in rc.local or put the script in /etc/init.d/mystartscript  and chkconfig mystartscript on ??? Which one is better ?
[11:53] <ii> johnnylee194: oh yeah, thats true. Just use the LiveCD to edit that grub file then, you wont have a problem
[11:53] <ct529> Misterio: /etc/init.d/service is not there
[11:53] <Misterio> ct529: service was an example
[11:53] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: sudo mkdir /media/data ; sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /media/data
[11:53] <Misterio> ct529: sudo /etc/init.d/tor start
[11:53] <ct529> Misterio: I use /etc/init.d/cups start, /etc/init.d/tor start
[11:53] <Misterio> And isn't saved?
[11:53] <ct529> Misterio: ok, sorry
[11:53] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: this will make the space avable under /media/data/
[11:53] <ii> karthee: /etc/rc.local is best
[11:53] <ct529> Misterio: what do you mean saved?
[11:53] <karthee> ii: May i know the reason ?
[11:53] <ii> Ubuntu uses upstart now so it's not congruent with centos
[11:54] <thoeger> erUSUL, check
[11:54] <erUSUL> cage_raphel: to make it permanent we have to add a line for it to /etc/fstab
[11:54] <Misterio> If you start proceess, is automatically restarted after a reboot?
[11:54] <Jordan_U> karthee: This is #ubuntu...
[11:54] <Misterio> ct529: ^ (sorry, I sometimes forget nick)
[11:54] <ii> ah hurr, forget what I just said I misread your question. no idea how centos works
[11:55] <johnnylee194> What should I do to add myself back to sudoers? is it "sudo usermod -aG adm,dialout,dip,fax,cdrom,floppy,tape,audio,plugdev,scanner,admin username"?
[11:55] <erUSUL> thoeger: :( then i dunno; pthreads should be aviable in libc6-dev ?
[11:56] <johnnylee194> I once used "sudo usermod -G xxx username" to removed myself from sudo list..
[11:56] <ii> you add yourself to the "admin" group, I think
[11:57] <ii> yes, certainly "admin"
[11:57] <ct529> Misterio: so what do I think I should do?
[11:57] <johnnylee194> @ii: Do I need to use visudo? the /etc/sudoers suggested that...
[11:57] <erUSUL> johnnylee194: sudo adduser youruser admin
[11:58] <erUSUL> thoeger: found this libpthread-stubs0-dev have you got this istalled ?
[11:58] <Misterio> ct529: Honestly, if I were you I would reinstall all, but befir ethat try fixing that problem; Ask here, surelly anyone will know how to solve that
[11:58] <ii> johnnylee194: I'm pretty sure you just need to use usermod to add yourself to the admin group, you dont even need to touch /etc/sudoers unless you've done something drastic to it
[11:58] <Misterio> before
[11:58] <Gabriel> !separatehome
[11:59] <johnnylee194> @ii ok, thanks
[11:59] <Gabriel> erUSUL, what do you mean?
[11:59] <ii> gl!
[11:59] <erUSUL> Gabriel: you can use your 80 GiB disk dor holding home
[11:59] <thoeger> erUSUL, some are but not the one named - is it a dumbed down version that Ubuntu installs, or maybe I need an extra package...?
[11:59] <johnnylee194> @erUSUL: what's the difference of "sudo adduser youruser admin" and "sudo usermod -aG admin youruser"?
[12:00] <StaRetji> Folks, is there a way to kill applications that are displayed on the screen, leaving the ones running in the background?
[12:00] <erUSUL> johnnylee194: adduser is safer? seen people here that forgot to use -a and loose all the group memeberships
[12:01] <gurudrew> Hello all, I've installed 10.4 via Wubi, and attempted the transfer via LVPM, which has gotten me nowhere. Are there any workaround guides on this subject?
[12:01] <Gabriel> erUSUL, I want to add the 80GB to the existing /home  is that possible ?
[12:01] <erUSUL> StaRetji: use xkill ?
[12:01] <w285700659> 大家好
[12:01] <erUSUL> Gabriel: you can mount it somewhere in home but the other solution is cleaner imho
[12:01] <w285700659> 有人在吗
[12:01] <StaRetji> erUSUL: thx, will google for it now
[12:01] <erUSUL> !cn | w285700659
[12:02] <johnnylee194> @erUSUL: gotcha, next time I'll user more adduser
[12:02] <^rumput_kering^> hi
[12:02] <erUSUL> StaRetji: there ins an applet for the panel
[12:02] <Gabriel> "cleaner imho" ???
[12:02] <erUSUL> in my humbel opinion
[12:02] <Gabriel> erUSUL, "cleaner imho" ???
[12:02] <w285700659> is anybaby here?
[12:02] <StaRetji> erUSUL: applet, like gui?
[12:02] <Etherael> Lucid system-config-samba appears to be broken; http://pastie.org/1050224 anyone know a fix?
[12:03] <Maddeth> Gabriel: a more efficient option in his honest opinion
[12:03] <johnnylee194> @ii: how about other groups? "adm,dialout,dip,fax,cdrom,floppy,tape,audio,plugdev,scanner", do I need to add myself back to these group as well?
[12:03] <erUSUL> StaRetji: right click on the panel choose add to panel. in the list there is an applet to kill graphcal apps
[12:03] <StaRetji> erUSUL: thx man, I'm on xubuntu, btw, but will check it
[12:04] <erUSUL> StaRetji: ok
[12:04] <^rumput_kering^> hi, please help me. i use pidgin 2.5.2 and empathy. i'm using yahoo protocol but i can't connect. i'm trying to change the page server to cn. but it still can't connect.
[12:04] <asrj> hai to all
[12:04] <asrj> I am new to the forum
[12:04] <asrj> is any one helpme
[12:04] <erUSUL> !ask | asrj
[12:04] <teemo> Jordan_U: thank you very much for ur help
[12:05] <asrj> How to increase the screen saver time in ubuntu 10.04
[12:05] <erUSUL> asrj: System>Preferences>Screensaver
[12:05] <teemo> everything is working fine now, i installed ubuntu yesterday, and today its working fine, and configured as i would have liked it to
[12:06] <asrj> thanks .............
[12:08] <asrj> i have installed linux mint -"side by side", But Unable to view in booting time,  the screen shows only windows7 & Ubuntu only, is it any options ther
[12:08] <Gabriel> erUSUL, can I mount A new HD under / , meaning adding to it's capacity ?
[12:08] <erUSUL> Gabriel: no that's not how it works.
[12:08] <thoeger> erUSUL, bump - are there extra packages of pthread libs I can possibly want to install?
[12:09] <erUSUL> thoeger: i only found this libpthread-stubs0-dev as i said earlier ...
[12:09] <thoeger> erUSUL, sorry didn't see that message
[12:10] <erUSUL> Gabriel: how big is your root partition now ?
[12:16] <tarek_> I have this very weird situation i need to share with you guys....yesterday i was connected to my wirless network at Work, but then when i got home, my ubuntu wont connect to my home network
[12:17] <tarek_> Anybody seen this before?:)
[12:17] <abhijit> hello
[12:17] <kaioken2> Guys please help me with this ...Sound is very low in ubuntu ,can't even hear some songs .Whats the problem .I am using ubuntu jaunty and kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:18] <slow-motion> hi
[12:18] <StaRetji> erUSUL: I've read and tried xkill, unfortunately it requires user action (mouse selection). Is there a command just say killall x windows and that's it? Thx
[12:18] <neckoox> @kaioken2 : do you use an HDA intel audio card ?
[12:18] <xnui7> hi
[12:18] <erUSUL> StaRetji: you can use « pkill programname »
[12:18] <tarek_> my ubuntu wont connect to my home network, please help :)
[12:19] <Maddeth> tarek_: wired or wireless
[12:19] <kaioken2> neckoox: yeah I suppose how do I know for sure?
[12:20] <StaRetji> erUSUL: the thing is, I made HTPC with xbmc on it, so I though to assign bash script to remote control to kill whatever is on screen so that I can start only media center
[12:20] <tarek_> maddeth, wireless
[12:20] <Maddeth> tarek_: can you see the network?
[12:20] <gartral2> Hello?
[12:20] <kay> hey guys...i have no video on youtube...just a black box...can anyone help? ...flash is installed
[12:20] <tarek_> maddeth, it works at my work, but not at home, the essid is locked on the network of my work
[12:20] <Maddeth> kay: are you blocking cookies?
[12:20] <neckoox> kaioken2 :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:21] <erUSUL> StaRetji: all currently running apps? restart X ?
[12:21] <tarek_> maddeth, i can see it at home yes
[12:21] <kay> i'll check...wait
[12:21] <abhinav_singh1> is there any png files viewer in ubuntu?
[12:21] <erUSUL> abhinav_singh1: all image viewers support png
[12:21] <Maddeth> tarek_: you said its locked onto your works ESSID?
[12:22] <StaRetji> erUSUL: ehm, if there is no other option :) Thx dude!
[12:22] <kay> Maddeth: where can i check it?
[12:22] <abhinav_singh1> but the default image viewer of ubuntu does not support png
[12:22] <abhinav_singh1> i am opening png files in f spo
[12:22] <airtonix> lol?
[12:22] <abhinav_singh1> *f spot
[12:22] <airtonix> gthumb
[12:22] <airtonix> firefox
[12:22] <erUSUL> abhinav_singh1: it does;
[12:22] <airtonix> imageviewier
[12:23] <Maddeth> kay: what browser are you using?
[12:23] <bazhang> abhinav_singh1, sure it does
[12:23] <abhinav_singh1> is there any way to convert gif files inti png?
[12:23] <tarek_> maddeth, yes even if i choose another network, it tells me that it is trying to connect to the same network of my work
[12:23] <airtonix> abhijit, convert img.gif img.png
[12:23] <airtonix> abhinav_singh1, ^^
[12:23] <abhijit>  :D :D ha ha haha
[12:23]  * airtonix rages
[12:23]  * abhijit is now used to it.
[12:24] <Maddeth> tarek_: it is probably easy to solve, unfortunatly I cannot run you through anything at the moment as I am at work and on Windows
[12:25] <tarek_> maddeth, no prob, ill be back later
[12:28] <erUSUL> tarek_: alt + f2 run gconf-editor go to system>networking>wireless>networks . clear all the data you can from there
[12:28] <tarek_> erUSUL, will do :)
[12:29] <erUSUL> tarek_: becouse i take you tried editting the connections through network manager ? right click on the network applet choose edit connections wireless tab remove all networks there
[12:29] <archer1> hi everybody
[12:30] <tarek_> erUSUL, i cant find system>networking>
[12:30] <erUSUL> tarek_: you are using plain ubuntu? and network manager ?
[12:31] <archer1> need help with my ethernet card, its a marvell yukon ethernet card. I can't connect to my cable modem.SOmetimes it connects for a few seconds and then goes off. sometimes it won't even pick a signal
[12:31] <Kartagis> is it possible to make my system support VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration?
[12:31] <tarek_> erUSUL, using WICD
[12:31] <archer1> does anyone know whats happening?
[12:31] <archer1> it uses a sky2 driver
[12:32] <Maddeth> archer1: have you tried through a router?
[12:33] <erUSUL> Kartagis: is  a hardware feature. it either supports it or not
[12:33] <archer1> Maddeth: thanks! No i haven't, i just try connecting to the cable modem
[12:33] <Maddeth> archer1: I have had issues with that just due to the way the modem works
[12:33] <erUSUL> tarek_: noy familiar with wicd sorry. mayue it has a way to clear all info too ?
[12:33] <Maddeth> archer1: ARE YOU ABLE TO PING OUT?
[12:33] <Maddeth> archer1: sorry caps
[12:33] <tarek_> erUSUL, i will check!!
[12:34] <erUSUL> archer1: you use a crossover cable ?
[12:34] <Maddeth> erUSUL: cable modem would just use an ethernet cable
[12:34] <babielagorce> fr
[12:34] <bazhang> !fr | babielagorce
[12:34] <Maddeth> erUSUL: and I would have though that it would flip it automagically anyway
[12:34] <archer1> Maddeth: np buddy. I tried a bit or work on it. tried connecting to my PC and setting a static IP to both. This problem is with my lap. And i cudn't ping.
[12:35] <archer1> Maddeth: which is why i doub't a driver conflict
[12:35] <erUSUL> Maddeth: no all nic can flip automagically ... but you are right for a cable-modem it makes sense
[12:35] <Maddeth> try removing the static IP
[12:35] <Maddeth> having it auto
[12:36] <archer1> Maddeth: I did. my modem works with dhcp, made the settings and auto too
[12:36] <archer1> Maddeth: restarted network still not good
[12:36] <Maddeth> archer1: hmm
[12:37] <Maddeth> archer1: what does IP config give?
[12:37] <Maddeth> archer1: sorry ifconfig (windows at work)
[12:37] <archer1> Maddeth:  do you have the same card and the driver? what did you mean by 'i had the same prob wth the way modem works' ?
[12:38] <Maddeth> archer1: on a windows lappy I had a similar issue with a cable modem
[12:38] <Maddeth> archer1: have you tried power cycling the modem?
[12:38] <archer1> Maddeth: np,ifconfig shows eth0 with mac address
[12:38] <Maddeth> with the lappy attached
[12:39] <archer1> Maddeth: yeah with attched
[12:39] <archer1> Maddeth: powercycling? u mean rese?t the modem
[12:39] <Maddeth> archer1: hmmm... you're making me think ;)
[12:39] <archer1> Maddeth: haha thanks a lot!
[12:39] <Maddeth> archer1: power off, wait 5, power on, yes :)
[12:40] <archer1> Maddeth: yes i did that buddy.
[12:40] <Maddeth> archer1: and you have other machines working?
[12:40] <metalgeek> Hi guys, I have a digital tv box for my ubuntu box, any ideas on how to get it working?
[12:40] <loxs> what package would provide /usr/include/lua.h ?
[12:40] <archer1> Maddeth: i did a google. and there are lot of issues with my same cards and driver.
[12:40] <Maddeth> archer1: I see
[12:40] <metalgeek> Ive only used it with win
[12:41] <archer1> Maddeth: yeah i have a pc too.and this same modem with the same cable works fine for my PC with ubuntu
[12:41] <Maddeth> can rule out the modem and cable then :)
[12:41] <archer1>  Maddeth: right. perfect!
[12:42] <Maddeth> archer1: thinking!! I need one of those old egg timer animations
[12:42] <archer1> Maddeth: last night i found a buddy here with my same card and driver. unfortunately i cudn't provide much details cause my lap wasn't near me
[12:43] <Kartagis> my crontab doesn't seem to work. why do you think?
[12:43] <archer1> Maddeth: ha ha:)
[12:43] <archer1> Maddeth: do u know if bios has got anything to do with the hardware drivers working fine?
[12:43] <Maddeth> archer1: so, you dont get an ip address of default gateway in ifconfig, just the MAC
[12:44] <Maddeth> archer1: I wouldn't have thought so
[12:44] <archer1> Maddeth: yep,right
[12:44] <archer1> Maddeth: okay
[12:45] <pitipiti> Hi, how do I make it so that syslog will never gets deleted with log rotate
[12:45] <archer1> Maddeth: i am sure there is a broken link with the driver sky2. cause once i connected with the modem and funny it goes on and off every few seconds
[12:45] <moji> hi there; i had installed kubuntu to dual boot with win7; kubuntu had serious issues which i researched after the fact and it seems a lot of stuff is horribly broken; so i thought ok, i'll install ubuntu from usb, so i ran unetbootin on it, but when i tried to install i got a generic error: Am error occurred while writing changes to storage devices. Resize option aborted. So then i was going to run gparted and failing that, fdisk
[12:45] <metalgeek> Is there a driver or something that i can download?
[12:45] <Maddeth> archer1: have you tried removing and reinstalling the driver?
[12:45] <Maddeth> archer1: and card?
[12:46] <Maddeth> archer1: unless its built in of course ;)
[12:46] <moji> well, fdisk lists partitions but it won't actually delete any; gparted the same; for some reason there're 3! NTFS partitions, the rest are linux; but in the first linux one it tells me to unmount any higher than that number; but when i highlight the others and go to the menu to choose unmount, that option is greyed out << scuse interruption, i'll idle and wait my turn
[12:46] <archer1> Maddeth: yeah, rmmod sky2 and modprobe it
[12:46] <Maddeth> archer1: please dont void any warranty on my behalf
[12:46] <archer1> Maddeth: card, i ifconfig down and up it too
[12:47] <archer1> Maddeth: np buddy :)
[12:47] <Maddeth> are there any other drivers available for that card?
[12:47] <joenel> hello
[12:47] <Maddeth> archer1: obvious question I know
[12:48] <Maddeth> hi joenel
[12:48] <joenel> hello maddeth
[12:48] <joenel> asl?
[12:48] <moji> 0o
[12:48] <Maddeth> heh
[12:48] <archer1> Maddeth: yeah, i tried contacting the support centre for the semiconductor team, Marvell. they send me another one, but that doesn't do any good either.:)
[12:48] <Maddeth> joenel: been a while since I have been asked that ;)
[12:48] <archer1> Maddeth: which was sk98lin
[12:48] <jeremy> HI
[12:48] <metalgeek> Hi, im having a problem using my digital box with Ubuntu, Any Help would be great :)
[12:48] <moji> f/13/cali
[12:49] <moji> is the correct answer to those questions :P
[12:49] <manco> I removed gdm and installed lxdm but system boots into black terminal
[12:49] <Maddeth> dont make me feel old moji
[12:49] <moji> i assure you, i'm probably somewhat older than you
[12:49] <moji> and nub
[12:50] <joenel> maddeth
[12:50] <joenel> how old are you
[12:50] <moji> and this whole flippin switch to linux is gonna drive me nuts
[12:50] <Pici> !ot
[12:50] <Maddeth> moji: I know ;)
[12:50] <Maddeth> joenel: old enough
[12:50] <moji> Maddeth: i know you from somewhere?
[12:50] <metalgeek> Guys, Help with Ubuntu please!
[12:50] <archer1> ubottu: wow! good to see you again:)
[12:50] <joenel> anyone who uses back track here?
[12:51] <archer1> ubottu: yeah i know:P
[12:51] <Maddeth> moji: mebbe, used to be here quite a lot
[12:51] <moji> i have; and i'm about to google up how to nuke those other partitions if i don't sort smth
[12:51] <archer1> joenel:i have a backtrack iso :)
[12:51] <moji> ah, this is my first time here
[12:51] <Maddeth> archer1: I am still pondering
[12:51] <archer1> joenel: haven't tried it
[12:51] <archer1> Maddeth: thanks buddy
[12:51] <joenel> nice
[12:51] <cash> h'
[12:51] <joenel> you know how to use it?
[12:51] <moji> joenel: there's probably a backtrack chan here, somewhere
[12:52] <Maddeth> archer1: I have my lunch break now
[12:52] <Maddeth> archer1: I will eat on it
[12:52] <archer1> Maddeth: haha!
[12:52] <manday> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runni
[12:52] <joenel> ah i see
[12:52] <joenel> any girls here?
[12:52] <moji> what are you trying to do, exactly?
[12:52] <moji> o brother
[12:53] <archer1> joenel: i have a pal who runs his lap with back track. just write it as iso on a cd and run it
[12:53] <archer1> moji: :D
[12:53] <moji> archer1: not in a great mood, i'm gonna ignore anything else like that before i get into trouble my first time here ;/
[12:54] <moji> << lack of sleep
[12:54] <archer1> moji: sorry you got me wrong
[12:54] <moji> nah, i didn't, i don't think; i pm'd you
[12:54] <moji> sorry, i shoulda been clearer
[12:56] <[diablo]> hi
[12:56] <[diablo]> is there an ARM version of 10.04 please?
[12:57] <joenel> i love ubuntu
[12:57] <joenel> i love ubuntu
[12:57] <joenel> :D
[12:57] <joenel> because its easy to use
[12:57] <FiremanEd> !ot | joenel
[12:57] <metalgeek> Could some one help with digital box issue
[12:58] <jpds> [diablo]: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - scroll down.
[12:58] <[diablo]> jpds, thanks
[12:58] <moji> should i reask my question, please?
[12:58] <joenel> #ubuntu
[13:01] <manco> installing lxde and removing gdm causing probllems. what is the cause?
[13:03] <abhijit> manco, just give a try in #lubuntu
[13:03] <manco> ok tanx
[13:04] <sikumbuzo> Hello, everyone.  I have a feeling this question gets asked a lot, but why am I constantly getting this error message when I run Update Manager: "Could not download all repository indexes."
[13:05] <TMK> chances are the repository couldn't be reached.
[13:05] <jillsmitt> sikumbuzo: did you add custom repositories?
[13:05] <sikumbuzo> So, what can I do to eliminate this problem?
[13:05] <TMK> if you look at the details in the update manager, look and see if you can ping the repos that you are trying to pull from.
[13:06] <jpds> sikumbuzo: Pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> Well, I've installed a lot of programs that I believe add their own repository information.
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:06] <FloodBot1> sikumbuzo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:06] <jpds> !pastebin | sikumbuzo
[13:06] <sikumbuzo> sorry
[13:06] <TMK> ok...go into software sources and remove the entry for that repo.
[13:07] <jpds> TMK: Yeah; that's the *main* Ubuntu repo failing.
[13:07] <jpds> sikumbuzo: There's something fundamentally wrong with your DNS.
[13:07] <TMK> i didn't look at the whole line :)
[13:07] <sikumbuzo> Please, explain
[13:07] <TMK> it's a dns problem..
[13:07] <sikumbuzo> What sort of DNS problem?
[13:08] <TMK> try to ping ppa.launchpad.net from a command line.
[13:08] <pitipiti> try ping google.com
[13:08] <sikumbuzo> pinging worked
[13:08] <lor> hi! do you know if ubuntu studio supports low-latency USB audio cards like ESI UGM96?
[13:08] <manday> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runni
[13:08] <TMK> what ip address do you get back for that?
[13:09] <manday_> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runn
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> PING ppa.launchpad.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[13:09] <TMK> yeah...hmm that looks right..
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> PING ppa.launchpad.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[13:09] <manday_> And then if I open aptitude I get "Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - No such file or dir"
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> woops
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> one second
[13:09] <manday_> why is that what the hell happend?
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> 38 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 37004ms
[13:09] <lor> sikumbuzo, Risposta da <IP_ADDRESS>: byte=32 durata=84ms TTL=49
[13:09] <ninjamaster> wrong dir
[13:09] <sikumbuzo> 100% packet loss
[13:10] <TMK> oh...packet loss...you just can't talk to that server.
[13:10] <TMK> can you ping anything else like google.com or yahoo.com?
[13:11] <sikumbuzo> Hmm, doesn't look like it
[13:11] <TMK> you're not on the internet my friend..
[13:11] <TMK> :)
[13:11] <sikumbuzo> lol how is that possible
[13:11] <lor> TMK, but he resolves dns
[13:11] <manco> ! abhijit
[13:11] <abhijit> manco, yes?
[13:12] <TMK> oh wait...is this the same machine that you're on now?
[13:12] <manco> well no use
[13:12] <sikumbuzo> yes
[13:12] <manco> tanx anyway
[13:12] <rileyp> anyone got some tomcat6 skills?
[13:12] <TMK> do you have a proxy server set up?
[13:12] <sikumbuzo> no, but i do live in grad student housing
[13:12] <sikumbuzo> communal
[13:12] <rileyp> with regard to ubuntu
[13:13] <abhijit> manco, excuse me? any special reason to highlight my nick?
[13:13] <manco> sry
[13:13] <manco> just learning the commands
[13:13] <lor> sikumbuzo, can you open other web pages?
[13:13] <manco> no offense
[13:13] <Pici> !usage | manco
[13:13] <TMK> It's possible that it's being blocked I guess...
[13:14] <sikumbuzo> yes, i am able to browse the web, obvioiusly use chat programs like xchat, and do everything else fine.  the only problem ive been having with ubuntu is this repository error
[13:14] <ManDay> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runni
[13:14] <ManDay> And then if I open aptitude I get "Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - No such file or dir"
[13:14] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to terminate rsyslogd? I'm in SU mode and I want to fsck my disks but rsyslogd and udevd still occupy some mounts
[13:15] <TMK> the school might be blocking traffic to the ubuntu repo from the proxy.
[13:15] <sikumbuzo> yeah, that certainly sounds possible, but im not sure why they block ubuntu repos??
[13:15] <redvil> i've installed a .deb package but couldn't find it on the apps menu..any suggestions where to find it?
[13:15] <TMK> is it a laptop?
[13:15] <sikumbuzo> yes, i am using a laptop
[13:15] <sikumbuzo> dell studio 1555
[13:15] <aeon-ltd> redvil: if its installed it should be in /usr/bin
[13:16] <TMK> go find some free wi-fi at starbucks or something and see if you have the same problem...
[13:16] <TMK> if you do, then it's the school.
[13:16] <slidinghorn> at work, so if you need me, mention me & I'll catch the highlight when I check xchat periodically
[13:16] <redvil> aeon-ltd: how do i get it up and running
[13:16] <sikumbuzo> ok
[13:16] <lor> sikumbuzo, they are probably paid by Microsoft to do so
[13:16] <TMK> if you don't...i meant..
[13:16] <TMK> lol
[13:16] <aeon-ltd> sikumbuzo: its more likely everything is blacklisted and only acceptable ips are whitelisted, or ports are bl
[13:16] <sikumbuzo> wont be able to try that for a while, what happens if that fails?
[13:16] <aeon-ltd> *blocked
[13:16] <sikumbuzo> any back up plans?
[13:16] <aeon-ltd> redvil: what app is it?
[13:16] <redvil> gimpshop
[13:16] <j0rd> ubecart.org is still broken
[13:17] <j0rd> http://www.ubercart.org/news/jul-16-2010/ubercart_30_alpha_3_released_now_rules_integration
[13:17] <j0rd> access denied
[13:17] <aeon-ltd> redvil: in a terminal type '/usr/bingimpshop' or just gimpshop might work
[13:17] <abhijit> manco, from that page ubottu gave you you wll know all factoids. i tell you one e.g. type /msg ubottu !hi test this after ubottu gives you msg you can check other factoid there by typing !<factoid>
[13:17] <redvil> aeon-ltd: will try that now
[13:17] <j0rd> oops
[13:17] <j0rd> wrong channel :)
[13:17] <sikumbuzo> it actually makes a lot of sense that it would be the school because i've also been having trouble forwarding ports
[13:17] <TMK> you might be stuck waiting until you can get off campus...but you should probably ask a school SA if and why they block ubuntu repos..
[13:18] <redvil> aeon-ltd: it says command not found
[13:18] <aeon-ltd> redvil: not even /usr/bin/gimpshop ?
[13:18] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me why firefox displays white text on white background?
[13:18] <manhunter> hi all
[13:18] <sikumbuzo> but why is that it would block the repos only *sometimes*
[13:18] <ManDay> EVEN if I disable all styles
[13:18] <redvil> aeon-ltd: will try that one now
[13:18] <sikumbuzo> i mean im able to download and install packages from the package manager
[13:19] <manco> abhijt ; tanx a lot man
[13:19] <aeon-ltd> redvil: look in /usr/bin for gimp using a filemanager
[13:19] <TMK> don't know...without knowing how the network is set up that's not easy to answer.
[13:20] <sikumbuzo> alright, well thanks for shedding some light on the issue
[13:20] <TMK> sure.
[13:20] <manco> what is the terminal command to shutdown??
[13:20] <TMK> talk to one of the school SA's...
[13:20] <sikumbuzo> other than this repo trouble Ubuntu 10.04 is great
[13:20] <nitstorm> mance : sudo shutdown -P now
[13:20] <manco> k tanx
[13:20] <redvil> aeon-ltd: hmmm..the file is not there
[13:20] <TMK> yep..10.04 is great...
[13:21] <TMK> thanks to Ubuntu, I've kept some pretty old hardware very usable..
[13:21] <lor> me too
[13:21] <manco> hey what is the command to address the guy u r referring to?
[13:21] <nitstorm> manco : u gotta type manco :
[13:21] <aeon-ltd> redvil: nothing gimp related?
[13:21] <lor> manco, type the first letters of the nickname then press TAB
[13:21] <sikumbuzo> i have a random off topic question should i bounce to the other channel?
[13:21] <redvil> aeon-ltd: i installed the .deb package by right clicking on the file and install by GDebi installer
[13:21] <bazhang> sikumbuzo, yes please
[13:21] <manco> lor,
[13:22] <rileyp> tomcat anyone
[13:22] <redvil> aeon-ltd: nothing gimp related
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> redvil: see if you can just edit the gnome menu and find it that way
[13:22] <lor> manco, :)
[13:22] <rileyp> help me with tomcat
[13:22] <sikumbuzo> /channelinfo
[13:22] <sikumbuzo> oops
[13:22] <manco> well that did not work as i intended
[13:22] <bazhang> sikumbuzo, #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:22] <sikumbuzo> ive forgotten my irc commands
[13:22] <sikumbuzo> thanks
[13:22] <lor> do you know if ubuntu studio supports low-latency USB audio cards like ESI UGM96?
[13:22] <redvil> aeon-ltd:how do i do that thing with the gnome menu?
[13:22] <PeterT> hi, how do I enable ipv6? lsmod | grep ipv6 returns nothing
[13:22] <aeon-ltd> redvil: system/preferences
[13:22] <redvil> aeon-ltd:do i need to reboot/restart?
[13:23] <learn1> how to use proxy in linux?  my proxy= http://<IP_ADDRESS> port=80 , it use windows active directory to auth login, must have username and password, i have a full access userID and password. Thanks.
[13:23] <manco> were can i get a list of irc commands
[13:23] <io> manco: "/quote help" will give you a list.
[13:23] <manco> ok
[13:23] <nitstorm> PeterT: go to firefox  type about:config and uncheck the boolean value for network.disable.IPv6 or something like that
[13:24] <PeterT> nitstorm: not on my computer, on my VPS
[13:24] <hybridvigour> hi all, what is the easy way to create a bootable usb key (is there such a thing as an easy way)?
[13:24] <aeon-ltd> redvil: no
[13:24] <io> !usb | hybridvigour
[13:25] <redvil> aeon-ltd:couldn't find the file...
[13:25] <aeon-ltd> redvil: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-add-entries-in-gnome-menu.html
[13:25] <nitstorm> PeterT: sorry try googling it, lots of results showing up
[13:25] <io> PeterT: Who is your host?
[13:25] <nitstorm> PeterT:  no idea what vps is so i feel lost
[13:25] <redvil> aeon-ltd:i installed it using both the terminal and GDebi installer
[13:25] <PeterT> io: zernebok.com
[13:25] <PeterT> io: is that what you mean?
[13:26] <dgh123> hi, the download page says that the 64bit version is "not recommended for daily desktop usage". i have used 904 (jaunty) 64bit without problems. is 1004 also a safe bet?
[13:26] <David-T> it does?
[13:26] <io> PeterT: Yes. They don't have native IPv6 connectivity, do they? Did you setup a tunnel?
[13:26] <David-T> dgh123: i've been using it fine without problems
[13:26] <io> dgh123: Yes.
[13:26] <PeterT> io: I have an ipv6 address on my box
[13:26] <dgh123> David-T: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[13:27] <io> PeterT: You added it to /etc/network/interfaces etc?
[13:27] <PeterT> io: no, what should I add there?
[13:27] <abhijit> manco, welcome :)
[13:27] <dgh123> David-T, io ok thank you
[13:27] <pepito> how can I disable IPv6 under Ubuntu in order to makesure that I connect to the internet using IPv4 and that my MAC address isn't given away to the outer world?
[13:27] <metalgeek> Is there a small terminal app for playing mp3's?
[13:27] <io> PeterT: Your IPv6 block?
[13:27] <manco> I have two de's. will it slow my boot time?
[13:27] <lor> dgh123, don't use 64bit if you don't really need it
[13:28] <io> PeterT: Similar as when you are adding IPv4 addreses.
[13:28] <llutz> metalgeek: mpg321
[13:28] <nitstorm> metalgeek:  mplayer
[13:28] <PeterT> io: *I* don't add it, the admin does
[13:29] <PeterT> io: but I see a section with my ipv6 address in here
[13:29] <io> PeterT: Unusual, usually when you have a VPS you a root and manage it. So ask the administrator to do it for you like you usually would.
[13:29] <dgh123> lor: i would like to run two or more vboxes and have 4gig ram
[13:29] <lor> dgh123, ok. use it :)
[13:29] <io> PeterT: It is added already?
[13:29] <PeterT> io: yes
[13:29] <neckoox> ipv6 ... not very used yet
[13:29] <io> PeterT: Then it is configured. What IRC client are you using?
[13:29] <jpds> neckoox: Well, depends where you are.
[13:30] <io> neckoox: It is, actually.
[13:30] <pepito> how can I disable IPv6 under Ubuntu in order to makesure that I connect to the internet using IPv4 and that my MAC address isn't given away to the outer world?
[13:30] <PeterT> io: well, my problem is that oidentd doesn't work when ZNC uses an ipv6 address as a vhost
[13:30] <io> !ipv6 | pepito
[13:30] <PeterT> so I was wondering if enabling ipv6 would help
[13:30] <neckoox> O well n it is then groing faster than i first though
[13:31] <io> PeterT: That has nothing to do with a problem with your IPv6 connection - oidentd does not respond to requests through IPv6 natively.
[13:31] <PeterT> io: how can I make it respond to requests?
[13:31] <jpds> pepito: Does your ISP do IPv6?
[13:31] <io> PeterT: Add "-a ::" to its runtime options.
[13:32] <PeterT> io: well, I use sudo service oidentd start
[13:32] <io> PeterT: Well edit the service.
[13:32] <PeterT> io: how?
[13:32] <io> PeterT: The /etc/init.d file.
[13:33] <ManDay> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runni
[13:33] <ManDay> And then if I open aptitude I get "Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - No such file or dir"
[13:33] <pepito> jpds, not yet, but I am trying to get ready for when it does, so that I don't make the mistake of inadvertedly given up my MAC
[13:33] <qwerkus> Hi; ages ago, I banned some soft from the automatic ubuntu update. Can't remember how I did this, and would REALLY love to know how to undo it...
[13:33] <ManDay> Please guys, this is so serious I'm afraid I'll have to reinstall everything
[13:34] <qwerkus> ManDay: If you can boot up, no need to reinstall
[13:34] <Seeker`> !uptime
[13:34] <Guest22031> WindowsVista Uptime: 5days 17hrs 50mins 33secs Best: 5days 17hrs 50mins 33secs
[13:34] <Niamor> Windows7 Uptime : 1hr 49mins 53secs Record : 1wk 2days 19hrs 54mins 23secs
[13:34] <jpds> pepito: Well, you might still have plenty of time.
[13:35] <PeterT> io: so, I would change OIDENTD=/usr/sbin/oidentd
[13:35] <PeterT>  to OIDENTD=/usr/sbin/oidentd
[13:35] <PeterT>  -a ::
[13:35] <bazhang> Guest22031, Niamor disable those scripts
[13:35] <io> qwerkus: I know that "aptitude <package>=" places a package on hold.
[13:35] <jpds> pepito: Also IPv6 has privacy capabitiles built-in which are designed to mask your MAC address.
[13:35] <io> PeterT: No, I said it's runtime options (OIDENTD_OPTIONS), not the path to the binary.
[13:36] <qwerkus> io: ain't there a file holding a list of banned stuff ?
[13:36] <PeterT> io: oh, sorry! thank you so much, I"ll test it now
[13:36] <ManDay> qwerkus: if I find no solution, I've got no other option
[13:36] <miked595> cpuinfo is showing only 8 of the 12 threads my cpu has. any clue on how to fix it?
[13:37] <tecb0y> whats the nslookup command to see mx records?
[13:37] <llutz> qwerkus: dpkg -l |grep ^h
[13:37] <PeterT> io: I don't know, it just still doesn't work
[13:37] <PeterT> I made a new account that uses an ipv6 host
[13:37] <qwerkus> llutz: nice one ! And how you undo it ?
[13:38] <llutz> qwerkus: aptitude install <package>
[13:38] <PeterT> and it still doesn't give ident response
[13:38] <llutz> tecb0y: dog MX domain.tld
[13:38] <miked595> tecb0y: I use dig. dig MX google.com
[13:38] <llutz> tecb0y: dig MX domain.tld         sry
[13:38] <pepito> jpds, do those built-in capabilities to mask the MAC work by default or, on the contrary, does the admin/user himself have to enable them?
[13:38] <qwerkus> llutz: yeah, did that. But it only updates the packet once, and doesn't remove it from the banning list
[13:38] <jpds> pepito: User has to enable them.
[13:39] <miked595> tecb0y: nslookup -type=MX google.com
[13:39] <jpds> pepito: I suggest reading http://www.ja.net/documents/publications/technical-guides/ipv6-tech-guide-for-web.pdf
[13:39] <llutz> qwerkus: echo packagename install | dpkg --set-selections
[13:39] <pepito> jpds,  that's the problem, that they don't come enabled by default and hence it's easy to bypass them unknowingly giving away your MAC
[13:40] <pepito> thank you, jpds, I will take a look at that
[13:40] <llutz> qwerkus: or  aptitude unholde pkg
[13:40] <llutz> unhold**
[13:41] <jillsmitt> Fn+F8 & Fn+F9 buttons (brightness controls) does not work, is there something i can do to fix it?
[13:42] <qwerkus> llutz: Great job ! Works now. Turns out the file is was looking for is /var/lib/dpgk/lock
[13:42] <PeterT> io: should OIDENT_OPTIONS be "-a ::" or "a ::"
[13:42] <qwerkus> llutz: Many thanks
[13:42] <rileyp> tomcat anyone
[13:43] <manco> What is the command to know the distro?
[13:43] <rileyp> help me with tomcat
[13:43] <llutz> manco: lsb_release -a
[13:43] <abhijit> manco, lsb_release
[13:43] <bazhang> !version | manco
[13:43] <pepito> What would the closest thing to a "PortableApp" in Linux be?
[13:44] <bazhang> rileyp, then ask a real question
[13:44] <manco> ok thanks everyone
[13:45] <ocs> hi. while using compizConfig something went wrong and the configuration GUI crashed. Since that, the windows are always messed up. Is there a way to restore the normal situation?
[13:45] <llutz> pepito: not very close: a static binary
[13:46] <rileyp> oh goody ,,, etc.init.d.tomcat6 or .usr/share/tomcat6 whats the differnce and why do they have differnt catalina bases
[13:46] <pepito> llutz, and isn't there a way to use a program in your PC without giving away that you are using such a program?
[13:46] <rileyp> and differnet jjre homes
[13:46] <pepito> (giving away to an external observer who has access to your PC)
[13:47] <rileyp> pepito yes rename the program  ..
[13:47] <llutz> pepito: use locally installed things in a hidden encrypted container, where only you have access to
[13:48] <hybridvigour> !usb
[13:49] <pepito> llutz, and if you didn't want to give away that you are using an encryption program? In windows you can do that by using such program as a portablepp, but in linux there would be no way, since you would have to install it, right?
[13:50] <_2> display problem 10.4    bot node?
[13:51] <rileyp> bazhang,
[13:51] <llutz> pepito: there might be ways but i don't know any (i never had to do so)
[13:51] <bazhang> rileyp, checked #tomcat and http://www.apachefrance.com/Manuels/Tomcat_3.0/ ?
[13:51] <_2> !video
[13:52] <_2> !xorg
[13:52] <_2> ah
[13:52] <Paulecas> hi there. i need help
[13:52] <Beyecixramd> llutz, pepito: there's a program called Truecrypt. You can also encrypt entire partitions using Gparted
[13:52] <Beyecixramd> !ask
[13:53] <Paulecas> i made sudo apt-get purge lamp-server^ phpmyadmin and the apt removed a lot of programs
[13:53] <llutz> Beyecixramd: sure but he doesn't want to use encryption-apps
[13:53] <Beyecixramd> llutz: lol, why not?
[13:53] <moji> ;/
[13:53] <moji> truecrypt is nice
[13:53] <llutz> Beyecixramd: ask him ;)
[13:53] <Paulecas> i want to replace those programs, how can i see a list of removed programs?
[13:53] <llutz> Beyecixramd: my idea was to use a hidden volume for this aim
[13:53] <Beyecixramd> llutz: TC can do that
[13:54] <llutz> Beyecixramd: i know
[13:55] <pepito> another unrelated question: in Ubuntu I have this problem --> the mouse pointer moves erratically every now and then (out of control), not only the pointer, but the mouse buttons are also pressed even though I don't touch them. This happens every now and then and it only stops if I stop touching it for a time. Note that it's not a mouse defect, in other computers, with other mouses, whith other ubuntu versions, I have the smae probl
[13:55] <pepito> em
[13:55] <m7stic> hello world
[13:55] <moji> you running on laptop? @ pepito
[13:56] <pepito> moji, no, I  am not
[13:56] <moji> optical mouse? wireless or wired? details plx
[13:56] <pepito> wired optical mouse
[13:57] <_nix00> dear,all.does some sofeware can set the wireless card of laptop as wireless acess point ?
[13:57] <moji> what kind? how old is it?
[13:57] <ManDay> I've got a major problem and I'm clueless: I didn't do anything but suddently everything beyond gdm has totally stopped working. When I boot the computer the LOGIN screen appears which a warning that "gnome-power-manager has not correctly been configured" and instead of the purple background the background is black. When I then try to log in the loginbox disappears and nothings happens, according to pstree metacity and "{gnome-session}" are runni
[13:57] <skumara> pepito use a mouse pad
[13:57] <ManDay> And then if I open aptitude I get "Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - No such file or dir"
[13:58] <moji> ManDay: google doesn't have any ideas for your specific error?
[13:59] <ManDay> moji: the aptitude one? No, absolutely nothing I could relate that with. I read somewhere that someone had a system crash and since then a lot of his files where missing and stuff but since I got ext4... oh wait, ext2 for /var
[13:59] <ManDay> dammit i dunno how can that happen
[13:59] <ManDay> a system crash remove files all over the place
[13:59] <ManDay> ?
[13:59] <moji> it can
[13:59] <moji> i've had a similar issue; can you run fsck?
[13:59] <demeter> !chat
[14:00] <ManDay> awful, what dou reommcnet?
[14:00] <sipior> ManDay: do you happen to have a "status-old" file in /var/lib/dpkg?
[14:00] <demeter> Qualè il canale chat di ubuntu?
[14:00] <moji> same thing i'm about to do
[14:00] <ManDay> moji: lol, i tried but even in SU mode I have to have something mounted
[14:00] <ManDay> sipior: no such file
[14:00] <ManDay> sipior: besides that cannot be the only problem
[14:00] <ManDay> there must be problems all over the place
[14:00] <moji> research how to write fsck out to file, then check the file over and google any errors and come back here and sak if that doesn't sort
[14:00] <qbitza> Hi Guys
[14:01] <qbitza> Have a weird one with networking
[14:01] <sipior> ManDay: you're right, why bother trying to solve one problem when there are other problems.
[14:01] <qbitza> I setup a bridge br0 with 2 devices eth0 and eth1
[14:01] <qbitza> When I startup the VMs, they start and vnet0 and vnet1 are created
[14:01] <moji> ManDay: you don't have a live distro to try from?
[14:01] <qbitza> from within the VM I can ping the host (<IP_ADDRESS>) but that's all
[14:01] <qbitza> Okay I can ping the other VMs too
[14:01] <ManDay> sipior: thats not what i meant. im saying if that i can recon with a magnitude of problems id rather choose the brutal way, renstalling everything
[14:01] <qbitza> But not the GW
[14:02] <qbitza> No firewalls
[14:02] <sipior> ManDay: sounds good.
[14:02] <moji> ManDay: you mayh have to but if you can boot from live cd first and run fsck and write output to file
[14:02] <Jeffjs> Hey room, anyone do any avr programming with ubuntu?
[14:02] <moji> i'd start with that
[14:02] <ManDay> moji: ill do
[14:02] <m7stic> i'm not asking for a solution, just a direction for searching. If i want to find and delete all folders in a directory with a certain number of files or less, what commands would i need to use?
[14:02] <moji> gl mate
[14:02] <ManDay> thanks moji sipior
[14:02] <moji> np; gl and godspeed
[14:02] <ManDay> i think ill need it :)
[14:03] <moji> i'll cross fingers for ya
[14:05] <qbitza> This is a VERY busy channel
[14:05] <m7stic> lots of idles
[14:05] <double-rainbow> lol
[14:05] <skumara> !busy
[14:05] <Beyecixramd> qbitza: yup
[14:05] <Beyecixramd> !idle
[14:05] <Jeffjs> Hey room, anyone do any avr programming with ubuntu?
[14:05] <m7stic> :/
[14:06] <m7stic>  i just don't even know where to start for finding folders with less than a set number of files
[14:06] <siXy> hi.  Where do I find the install tree to mirror for netinstalls, or should I just grab & loopmount the desktop iso?
[14:08] <rileyp> manday  I had a gnome poer manger problem when my hdd was completely filled
[14:08] <Tricks> does anybody know how to set a default landing location when a user logs in through SSH using WinSCP or similar
[14:08] <hardisk> ALL JOIN #child_porn
[14:08] <slidinghorn> wth?
[14:08] <rileyp> you may need to deletes some files then google the exact words that come up and there is a fix for it
[14:09] <Chousho> why does it seem that a lot of the weirdos are on IRC right now
[14:09] <manco> how do i know which all services are set for startup on booting
[14:09] <llutz> m7stic: find dir/ -type f|wc -l
[14:10] <manco> I think my gdm is set to start last
[14:10] <m7stic> llutz, ok
[14:10] <Synthead> how do I find which package owns a file?
[14:10] <llutz> m7stic: gives you filescount, compare it with your limits, decide to leave/delte
[14:10] <Synthead> it's a local file on my filesystem
[14:10] <arand> Synthead: dpkg -S filename
[14:11] <Synthead> if I do that, I get a huge list
[14:11] <m7stic> llutz, thank you. it's a good start.
[14:11] <hardisk> ALL JOIN #child_porn
[14:11] <hardisk> ALL JOIN #child_porn
[14:11] <hardisk> ALL JOIN #child_porn
[14:11] <FloodBot1> hardisk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <llutz> Synthead: use complete path  filename to search
[14:12] <Synthead> there isn't a way to search for a file in the directory that you're in without full paths or bash tricks?
[14:13] <Spanglish_7776> Synthead try locate filename
[14:13] <Spanglish_7776> in the terminal
[14:13] <Synthead> locate will just tell me where the file is in my filesystem
[14:13] <Synthead> if I am in directory /a/b/c/d/e/f/g
[14:13] <Synthead> and e exists in g
[14:13] <Synthead> I want to be able to command -flags g
[14:14] <Synthead> and get [package]
[14:14] <Synthead> for the locally installed packages
[14:14] <Synthead> sorry, command -flags e
[14:14] <root__> jk
[14:14] <Synthead> gah
[14:14] <Synthead> man
[14:14] <Pici> Synthead: dpkg -S `pwd`/rest/of/path/file
[14:14] <root__> jyg
[14:15] <Synthead> there's no other way :/
[14:15] <sgflt> hey everyone. is it possible to disable the local cupsd and use a remote one to print?
[14:15] <m7stic> sgflt, yes
[14:16] <siXy> Synthead: find . -type f -printf "%f\n" #for more read man find, or try #bash.  this channel is a waste of time :/
[14:16] <sgflt> m7stic, how would i do that? i stopped the local cupsd, and used the printing administration gui to connect to the other cups server. i can print test pages there fire. however, i cannot find an option to make the remote server be the default/show up in file->print dialogs
[14:16] <Pici> Synthead: I'm not sure how else you are planning to get the full path of the file. You need that if you don't want a huge list to spit out of dpkg -S
[14:16] <rileyp> anyone encode for an ipod
[14:16] <rileyp> with ffmpeg
[14:17] <neadekvaten> есть тут живые ?
[14:17] <bazhang> rileyp, encode for mpeg4? sure with handbrake
[14:17] <Pici> !ru | neadekvaten
[14:17] <rileyp> hmm handbrake it seems like an option I read a bit about it yesterday
[14:18] <rileyp> Im attempting to use mythpodcaster http://code.google.com/p/mythpodcaster/issues/list?cursor=28&updated=28&ts=1279518923
[14:18] <apipkin> hello all! i'm trying to install Node.js and the step i'm stuck at is ./configure. it's fails saying mChecking for program g++ or c++ not found. is this a simple atp-get install ?
[14:18] <Spanglish_7776> rileyp handbrake works well I've used it.
[14:18] <CarlFK> where is vpn config settings stored?  like when I do network-manager/vpn connections/edit
[14:18] <apipkin> to get g++ or c++ that is
[14:19] <Pici> apipkin: Have you installed build-essential?
[14:19] <rileyp> but Id need to modify the code to use handbrake unl;ess handbrake makes a rss feed
[14:19] <apipkin> Pici: dont think so. is there a way to check?
[14:19] <Pici> apipkin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:19] <NateW> in fdisk it says: Warning: invalid flag 0x61a4 of partition table 6 will be corrected by w(rite).. how can i fix this?
[14:20] <apipkin> pici: installing :)
[14:22] <apipkin> Pici: that did it! thanks so much for the help
[14:22] <Pici> apipkin: you're welcome
[14:23] <pea_brain> dear all, i want to download ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS 32 bit server iso. somehow i am not able to figure out where is the download page. the download page is directly allowing only 10.04 release download. can anyone please help.
[14:23] <sgflt> m7stic, any suggestion how?
[14:23] <m7stic> sgflt, i'm searching google
[14:23] <Pici> pea_brain: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.4/
[14:24] <IdleOne> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04
[14:24] <m7stic> sgflt, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[14:25] <pea_brain> but i want 8.04.3 i386 server release
[14:25] <Spanglish_7776> pea_brain which 32 or x64
[14:25] <sgflt> m7stic, that still uses two cups instances, doesn't it?
[14:26] <jpds> Pici, IdleOne: Gentlemen, please.
[14:26] <jpds> pea_brain: http://ubunturelease.hnsdc.com/8.04.4/ubuntu-8.04.4-server-i386.iso
[14:26] <m7stic> sgflt, did you read it?
[14:26] <IdleOne> jpds: ? morning
[14:26] <sgflt> m7stic, i'd say so. point me to what i missed then
[14:26] <pea_brain> 32 bit
[14:26] <jpds> pea_brain: There you go. ↑
[14:26] <Synthead> how do I get metadata for a local package (.deb)?
[14:27] <pea_brain> i want 8.04.3 and not 8.04.4
[14:27] <Spanglish_7776> pea_brain mind a torrent?
[14:27] <jpds> pea_brain: 8.04.3 has been superseded by .4 and as such as been removed.
[14:28] <Spanglish_7776> pea_brain: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.3/ubuntu-8.04.3-server-i386.iso.torrent
[14:28] <sgflt> m7stic, hmm, i've gotten cups to not use the local but remote server (using /etc/cups/client.conf) - now i just need to find out where gtkprint stores the default server
[14:28] <Pici> Spanglish_7776: Thats not a valid link.
[14:28] <pea_brain> oh i see, i would want a server download link
[14:28] <jpds> pea_brain: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.2/ubuntu-8.04.3-server-i386.iso
[14:29] <Spanglish_7776> hmm they should remove it from ubuntu since it's not a valid link. gits
[14:29] <jpds> Spanglish_7776: Remove it from what?
[14:29] <IdleOne> no need for the insult Spanglish_7776
[14:29] <Spanglish_7776> ubuntu's website
[14:29] <pea_brain> jpds: wow, your link works. thanks a lot.
[14:29] <m7stic> sgflt, now you have direction for research. keep going
[14:29] <sgflt> m7stic, solved it =)
[14:30] <jpds> Spanglish_7776: It's not there.
[14:30] <sgflt> m7stic, need to tell gtk-print to use lp as the backend =)
[14:30] <Failican> What is the funniest game for ubuntu?
[14:30] <sgflt> m7stic, put gtk-print-backends="pdf,cups,lpr" in ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[14:30] <sgflt> m7stic, and with the client.conf - voila
[14:30] <jpds> Spanglish_7776: Otherwise, please show it to us so that we can correct it.
[14:30] <m7stic> sgflt, good job
[14:31] <sgflt> m7stic, thanks for the moral support =)
[14:31] <sgflt> m7stic, bye!
[14:31] <pea_brain> thanks all the link works like a piece of beauty :)
[14:31] <sipior> Failican: emacs
[14:31] <Spanglish_7776> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[14:31] <Spanglish_7776> I found it there
[14:31] <tecb0y> anyone know python?
[14:31] <abhijit> tecb0y, #python
[14:31] <IdleOne> tecb0y: #python
[14:31] <abhijit> :)
[14:31] <Spanglish_7776> in the torrent's section
[14:32] <jpds> Spanglish_7776: Cool, I'll bring it to the attention of our webmaster.
[14:32] <Spanglish_7776> :)
[14:33] <skumara> #python
[14:33] <skumara> nothing happen
[14:33] <sgflt> is there a gui/cli tool to manage what services are started? i've sort of lost track because of the whole upstart/sysv init thing
[14:34] <sipior> skumara: "/j #python"
[14:34] <sgflt> ah. nvm, i'll just nuke it
[14:34] <wh1sk3yj4ck> how do I extract a specific file from a zip archive using the cli?
[14:35] <kasun> hello does anyone know where I can change settings of "kdewallet" under ubuntu? I installed Choqok (kde app) and it always ask for password at boot-time, which is a pain. I need to get rid of that
[14:37] <llutz> wh1sk3yj4ck: unzip foo.zip file
[14:37] <wh1sk3yj4ck> llutz, but what if the while is residing in a directory in the archive?
[14:38] <cxb__> ...
[14:38] <killown> again i can't connect to the google or youtube until reboot the system
[14:39] <DrPoO> what do u guys recommend for a backup solution. I have an external drive, I have been using simple-backup but it does not seem to be very reliable (changes the location of the backups at random)... any suggestions?
[14:40] <llutz> DrPoO: rsync + a special udev-rule initiating the backup when the external drive becomes ready
[14:40] <llutz> wh1sk3yj4ck: you have to specify the path too then, i guess
[14:41] <DrPoO> llutz, I had thought of something similar but wanted to see if there were known packages that already do this
[14:41] <wh1sk3yj4ck> llutz: I did that and it just wants to replace the file in the archive
[14:41] <wh1sk3yj4ck> replace dictionaries/README-en-US.txt? [y]es, [n]o,
[14:43] <glaucous> Is it possible to sort by folder/directory in Amarok?
[14:47] <glaucous> Do someone know if it is possible to sort by folder/directory in Amarok 2.3? If not, do you know any other music player that can?
[14:48] <DrPoO> glaucous, ls -latr?
[14:49] <madstein> hey peeps
[14:49] <madstein> need help and advice
[14:49] <madstein> i have installed NOD32 beta for linux
[14:50] <wh1sk3yj4ck> haha are you serious?
[14:50] <madstein> and after a reboot every time i open a window as roo
[14:50] <madstein> i get this
[14:50] <madstein> http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/474/capturaecrac.png
[14:50] <madstein> check the GUFW window it as ROOT: on the window decoration
[14:50] <abhijit> !enter | madsara
[14:50] <madstein> never saw that any one can tell me anything about it ?
[14:50] <rww> !mintsupport | madstein
[14:51] <madstein> rww i know
[14:51] <madstein> but they r the same thing
[14:51] <madstein> can you please try help me instead of that
[14:51] <subbass> eset has a linux client ?
[14:51] <rww> madstein: they're not, actually. Notable difference: it isn't supported here.
[14:51] <madstein> i would not be here if i ddint knew it
[14:51] <Pici> madstein: We do not support mint here. Period.
[14:51] <madstein> thats rude
[14:52] <madstein> you could see me as a linux user and not a mint on
[14:52] <madstein> one*
[14:52] <rww> madstein: so is using the support resources of another distro
[14:52] <madstein> i only requested advice and info about it
[14:53] <madstein> come on
[14:53] <sipior> madstein: why not ask the people who are actually involved with the damned thing?
[14:53] <abhijit> hello abhinav !!! its me abhi_nav!!! :)
[14:53] <madstein> ok sure thanks any way
[14:54] <PFA> so i just accidentally INVERTED my pidgin window?
[14:54] <PFA> can someone tell me what the hell i pressed and hwo to get it back?
[14:54] <rww> PFA: inverted as in the colors?
[14:54] <PFA> yeah
[14:55] <PFA> windows+M de-inverted it... but also inverted all my other windows
[14:55] <Pici> PFA: super + i   iirc.
[14:55] <PFA> it's the most bizarre thing
[14:55] <rww> PFA: Super-N
[14:55] <Pici> PFA: or listen to rww
[14:55] <rww> (super = windows key)
[14:55] <PFA> rww you are my hero
[14:55] <PFA> thanks anyway Pici
[14:55] <DrPoO> lol
[14:55] <PFA> that was the most insane and confusing thing ever but at least now i know how to invert stuff if i ever need to?
[14:55] <PFA> thanks
[14:55] <rww> it's useful occasionally, honest :S
[14:59] <kasun> hello, does anyone know how to load kdewalletmanager in ubuntu? I installed the package, but it does not get loaded when i enter 'kdewalletmanager' in cmd
[15:01] <skumara> how to connect htc touch cruise to ubunthu?
[15:01] <nishttal2> how do I make the clock auto sync with NTP
[15:02] <ACi5> Does the 'preempt kernel' support Intel Turbo Boost technology?
[15:03] <elyos> ACi5 isn't that at the hardware level?
[15:03] <ACi5> yes elyos
[15:03] <erUSUL> nishttal2: System>Admin...>time and date
[15:04] <terry__> Can I install kubuntu side by side with ubuntu?
[15:06] <lucas_>  #ubuntu-br
[15:06] <terry__> Can I install kubuntu side by side with ubuntu?
[15:07] <Pici> terry__: sure.
[15:07] <terry__> And windows?
[15:07] <kasun> terry__, yes you can
[15:07] <terry__> And windows?
[15:08] <illac> terry__: no need to install it side by side, you just need to swap out your window manager for Ubunut
[15:08] <Pici> terry__: I'd install ubuntu and then install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[15:08] <youjun> sldfjnlks
[15:08] <youjun> test
[15:08] <youjun> hello
[15:08] <terry__> How to  swap out your window manager for Ubunut?
[15:08] <terry__> illac?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[15:10] <terry__> How to  swap out your window manager for Ubunut?
[15:10] <terry__> How to  swap out your window manager for Ubunut?
[15:10] <terry__> illac?
[15:10] <Pici> terry__: Please don't repeat.
[15:10] <trelayne> anyone know why Gwibber is not starting up after latest upgrades on 10.04?
[15:10] <Pici> terry__: You should be able to pick your desktop environment from the login window.
[15:11] <nkei0> Hello.  I would like to add some additional space to 2 of my partitions.  One is windows ntfs and the other is linux ext3.  I have 20 gigs of unallocated space and and additional 75 of ext3.  I would like to put the 75gigs to my ubuntu partition and the 20 to my windows.  However, gparted won't allow me to grow either partition.
[15:11] <terry__> Pici Can I pm u?
[15:11] <Misterio> !pm | terry__
[15:12] <Pici> terry__: I'd prefer that you ask your questions in this channel.
[15:13] <savid> What's a good service-monitoring app,  something that will monitor a service and restart it if it crashes?
[15:15] <kasun> trelayne, Gwibber is integrated to Ubuntu 10.04 starting from this version
[15:15] <evident> is it possible to update git on my Ubuntu 8.04 server to 1.5.6 or higher? I only have <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:16] <overrider> Hi, i installed rsnapshot, and its at version 1.3.0; for a long time 1.3.1 is out, and now i want to use a configfile from another system that only works right with 1.3.1. Long story short: How to best upgrade rsnapshot to 1.3.1; without breaking stuff...
[15:16] <erUSUL> evident: maybe there is a backport ? or a ppa ?
[15:16] <erUSUL> !ppa | evident
[15:16] <john38> If i use AOL as service provider how do i use that in linux
[15:16] <skumara> how to make workspace switcher to appear on bottom bar?
[15:17] <trelayne> kasun I know but the latest updates (which I applied moment ago) I thought contained some gwibber updates.. I'm  restarting my machine and see if gwibber work again...
[15:17] <bastid_raZor> AOL still exists?
[15:17] <john38> yeah
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[15:17] <john38> does ubuntu provide cross platforming for aol
[15:18] <john38> just to dial up
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[15:18] <metalgeek> I have a didital Television box for my PC, Can I use it with Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:18] <ikonia> metalgeek: have you got a TV card for your ubuntu box ?
[15:19] <bastid_raZor> skumara: right click the panel > add to panel > Workspace Switcher
[15:19] <nkei0> Hello.  I would like to add some additional space to 2 of my partitions.  One is windows ntfs and the other is linux ext3.  I have 20 gigs of unallocated space and and additional 75 of ext3.  I would like to put the 75gigs to my ubuntu partition and the 20 to my windows.  However, gparted won't allow me to grow either partition.  Any ideas?
[15:19] <john38> If i use AOL as service provider how do i use that in linux
[15:19] <john38> does ubuntu provide cross platforming for aol
[15:19] <john38> just to dial up
[15:19] <ikonia> john38: the ISP is not important as long as it's just a standard PPP connection
[15:19] <metalgeek> ikonia, No its an external usb digital dox
[15:20] <ikonia> metalgeek: plug it in, see if it gets detected
[15:20] <john38> yes but i only connect to internet through aol
[15:20] <kasun> nkei0, does the partitions are consecutive? the partitions should next to each other in order to grow
[15:20] <IdleOne> !dialup
[15:20] <ikonia> john38: not sure how that's relevant
[15:20] <miked595> I noticed on a couple of my machines all my files were missing from Ubuntu One. I started up my laptop but kept it offline and made a fresh backup of my files. As soon as I connected to the internet my files disappeared. Has this happened to anyone here?
[15:20] <metalgeek> ikonia, It lights up, how do i know if its detected by ubuntu?
[15:21] <ikonia> metalgeek: how do you use it in windows, what software ?
[15:21] <nishttal2> erUSUL, thanks.. however the clock is still ahead
[15:21] <nishttal2> erUSUL, do I need to reboot?
[15:21] <john38> some people who use aol
[15:21] <erUSUL> nishttal2: ahead? how much ?
[15:21] <john38> can only connect to internet through aol
[15:21] <metalgeek> ikonia, It came with its own manufacturers software. A company called Hauppauge
[15:22] <ocs> hi. When I try to add a workspace in the workspace switcher, in the bottom panel, it ignores my command. The number of workspaces remains fixed to 4 ... what could I do?
[15:22] <john38> you understand Ikonia
[15:22] <sprung> ikonia, why would you want to use anything in Windows, just curious?
[15:22] <Belserusk> Hi. Is it best to use noise removal before or after normalize in Audacity?
[15:22] <nishttal2> erUSUL, 1 minute
[15:22] <ikonia> metalgeek: hayppage normally has good support, try the linux software called tv time
[15:22] <erUSUL> ocs: you use compiz ?
[15:22] <ikonia> sprung: I don't
[15:22] <ikonia> john38 no, I don't
[15:22] <john38> are you joking
[15:22] <metalgeek> ikonia, Can i get it from repos?
[15:22] <john38> i know everybody uses high speed
[15:23] <linxeh> Belserusk: depends on the source and what you are trying to achieve - I normally try both and evauluate how it affects the sound
[15:23] <john38> some people still use dial up
[15:23] <john38> i mean im not expert on networking
[15:23] <IdleOne> !dialup | john38
[15:23] <erUSUL> nishttal2: switch to manual an force a sync (the little button with two curly arrows )  ?
[15:23] <john38> but im trying to install ubuntu on a pc
[15:23] <ikonia> metalgeek: surecan
[15:24] <ikonia> sure can even
[15:24] <john38> the only way this person connects to internet is through aol
[15:24] <ikonia> john38: I have no issue with people using dial up.
[15:24] <ikonia> john38: AOL will be supported if it's a straight PPP connection and your modem is supported
[15:24] <ikonia> john38: if you need specific software, then doubtful as AOL does not make software for linux
[15:24] <IdleOne> john38: yes, you won't have the normal AOL connection software you are used to but that link provided above should help you to connect to the internet using AOL servers
[15:24] <metalgeek> ikonia, Thanks a million, will go and try it out now, lovin Linux :)
[15:24] <ikonia> metalgeek: good luck
[15:25] <nkei0> kasun: Thanks.  I think that's what I needed.
[15:25] <john38> well where do i go in ubuntu
[15:25] <john38> to connect to aol servers
[15:25] <ikonia> john38: read teh link ubottu gave you
[15:25] <IdleOne> john38: Also iirc AOL tech support ( some of the people) will help you with connection issues, even if you are not using AOL software.
[15:26] <Belserusk> linxeh: Thank you.
[15:26] <john38> whats the channel
[15:26] <IdleOne> john38: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[15:26] <ikonia> john38: there isn't a channel
[15:26] <IdleOne> john38: there is no magic channel or button. You are going to have to go to that link I just gave you and read some
[15:26] <john38> im there already
[15:27] <nishttal2> erUSUL, it just corrected itself.. thanks
[15:27] <IdleOne> john38: if you need DNS server info you can call AOL and they will give you the info
[15:27] <ocs> erUSUL: yes (compiz)
[15:27] <erUSUL> nishttal2: no problem
[15:27] <erUSUL> ocs: maybe you have to change the workspaces in compiz
[15:27] <erUSUL> !ccsm | ocs
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[15:28] <ksk_> hi every one
[15:28] <trelayne> arghh... seems Gwibber is indeed not working ... will investigate further
[15:29] <ocs> erUSUL: thanks, but I don't find where to set the workspace number
[15:29] <erUSUL> ocs: it should be in the general section in compiz settings manager
[15:31] <erUSUL> ocs: also if you enable gnome compatibility then the workspace applet should work to change the number of workspaces afaik
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[15:31] <sipior> i see the campaign to turn freenode into usenet proceeds apace.
[15:32] <bastid_raZor> heh, another fanboy of erUSUL's
[15:32] <ocs> erUSUL: already enabled
[15:32] <erUSUL> bastid_raZor: what can i say ;)
[15:32] <sprung> sipior, it would need to netsplit 5 times an hour before freenode becomes like undernet
[15:32] <Pici> mode +e
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[15:32] <Beyecixramd> lol erUSUL
[15:32] <bastid_raZor> erUSUL: your fanbase says it all.
[15:32] <Pici> oops
[15:32] <capon1> hi all! can somebody help me? I am trying to install vlc and I get an error and it says to do apt-get -f install, it does something but in the end it gives me this error: Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:32] <capon1>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.34_2.6.34-10.00.Custom-bt4_i386.deb
[15:32] <capon1> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:33] <capon1> what could it be?
[15:33] <bastid_raZor> capon1: you should join #backtrack-linux
[15:33] <Beyecixramd> capon1: please, don't paste here, use www.pastebin.org
[15:33] <erUSUL> ocs: works here (tm)
[15:33] <capon1> ok
[15:33] <capon1> bastid_raZor, but backtrack is based on linux
[15:33] <aarkerio> capon1, uninstall /linux-image-2.6.34_2.6.34-10.00.Custom package
[15:33] <capon1> aarkerio,  ok
[15:34] <Pici> capon1: We don't support backtrack here, they have their own support channel.
[15:34] <aarkerio> you compiled that kernel right?
[15:34] <trelayne> ok got Gwibber working again after latest updates broke it: had to remove gwibber-service and re-install gwibber
[15:34] <ksk_> Guys Im suffering form one issue with conky can U plesae help me out
[15:35] <ksk_> please ...
[15:35] <ksk_> if any one is ther ..please help me
[15:35] <bazhang> ksk_, ask a question
[15:36] <ksk_> i installed the conky but appers in a diff way
[15:36] <ksk_> bro
[15:36] <bazhang> ksk_, read the conky beginners tutorial yet?
[15:36] <White_R> hi! anyone has experience with usb umts key? a friend of mine set his (alcatel 210s) as said on http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=386333.0 but wvdial dies"A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)" that's "The link was terminated because the peer is not responding to echo requests.
[15:36] <ksk_> nope
[15:36] <ocs> erUSUL: I understand that, but I wonder why it doesn't work here :) . I can add that I have two monitors and two windows managers running simulteneouslly. On the second one it works
[15:37] <Roasted_> Does anybody know if there's a way to auto-downsize attachments (images) in evolution?
[15:37] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 ksk_
[15:37] <erUSUL> ocs: maybe is the odd set up; ask in #compiz
[15:38] <ocs> erUSUL: thanks
[15:39] <ksk_> i will be back after i read tat
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[15:40] <sprung> yeah, like anybody's going to dl something from tripod
[15:41] <astra-x> anyone else have an issue with / being full after the newest kernel update?
[15:42] <erUSUL> astra-x: no; have you tried fscking the partition ?
[15:43] <astra-x> erUSUL: about to know, just making sure the kernel is reading the fakeraid properly
[15:43] <astra-x> *now
[15:45] <nkei0> christ, moving a partiton takes forever.
[15:46] <BluesKaj> nkei0, only if it has data on it :)
[15:46] <craigbass1976> What's the tool to see available wireless networks in range?  I don't have wifi radar
[15:46] <nkei0> mine doesn't have data, it's just formatted to ext3 and it's taking forever.
[15:47] <nkei0> BluesKaj: it's 16gb into 75gb and it says it'll have an hour left
[15:47] <istevenmon> hi guys how can i check if a domain has mx entries?
[15:47] <astra-x> so is there no recovery or bb mode in 10.04?
[15:48] <Pici> istevenmon: dig mx domain.tld
[15:48] <heimo> list
[15:48] <istevenmon> thanks
[15:48] <BluesKaj> nkei0, well you've already started , so I'd just let itfifnish
[15:49] <nkei0> BluesKaj: Should I have deleted the partition so it was just "free space"?
[15:49] <kasun> craigbass1976, don't you have the "NetworkManager Applet" in the system tray?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> nkei0, yes
[15:50] <BluesKaj> always format a pertition after moving it, nkei0
[15:50] <neckoox> craigbasse1976 : Network Manager should do that under Ubuntu
[15:50] <nkei0> BluesKaj: I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> nkei0, yeah free space is treated differently because there's no data to move
[15:51] <craigbass1976> neckoox: that's the name of the app?
[15:51] <neckoox> craigbass1976 : yup
[15:52] <craigbass1976> neckoox: forget it; I just realized that wireless on the actual laptop is switched off
[15:52] <neckoox> craigbass1976 : Applet NetworkManager to be exact . ha ok haha
[15:52] <BluesKaj> craigbass1976, there should be an icon in the systen tray that looks like plugin , if the network isn't connected
[15:52] <waldir> hey, has anyone here compiled wine 1.2 from source?
[15:53] <waldir> (or by any chance has a deb been released already? :D)
[15:54] <neckoox> bluesKaj : well it happens to me sometimes when i maintain the killswitch of my wifi turned off when i start ubuntu that this icon does not appear
[15:54] <BluesKaj> waldir,why bother , just install it from the source repos or the package manager
[15:54] <neckoox> bluesKaj : but i guess craig has solved his pbm
[15:54] <waldir> BluesKaj: yes but have they been updated with the recently released 1.2?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> neckoox, maybe :)
[15:55] <sipior> waldir: there is a "wine1.2" package, for what it's worth.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> waldir, what's the advantage of an unstable wine app
[15:55] <waldir> sipior: afaik it was a dummy package to allow us to update when 1.2 was finally released
[15:56] <waldir> sipior: in practice it installed some 1.* version
[15:56] <waldir> BluesKaj: what do you mean, unstable? this is supposedly a stable release :)
[15:56] <chakravanti_> how do i get projectm to work with totem in lucid
[15:56] <taulus> CAn someone tell me hw I change my admin user name in ubuntu?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> waldir, then it should be in the repos
[15:57] <waldir> BluesKaj: but how frequently are the repos updated? the release was 3 days ago
[15:57] <chakravanti_> how do i get projectm to work with totem in lucid becuase i have them installed through USC but totem isn't recognizing it
[15:57] <Pici> !latest | waldir
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[15:58] <kasun> waldir, http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html says it doesn't have version 1.2!
[15:58] <Hover> i installed irda driver according to !irda.. now how can i send files to my priter thru infrared?
[15:58] <waldir> Pici: I know, and I almost always use synaptic. but I have had problems with some apps and I wanted to try the new 1.2 which supposedly has thousands of bugfixes
[15:58] <xenon401> when does ubuntu 10.10 LTS get release? Is it October?
[15:59] <Hover> !irda
[15:59] <erUSUL> xenon401: 10.10 is not lts
[15:59] <IdleOne> xenon401: yes
[15:59] <waldir> kasun: that's what I feared :( thus I was trying to compile it from source
[15:59] <chakravanti_> how do i get projectm to work with totem in lucid becuase i have them installed through USC but totem isn't recognizing it
[15:59] <Melodist> xenon401: 10.04 was already released O-o
[15:59] <Melodist> the next one up is 10.10
[15:59] <xenon401> Melodist: I said 10.10
[15:59] <Hover> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto i enabled infrared.. it detects my printer but i dunno how to print thru it..
[15:59] <chakravanti_> Ubuntu version numbers are dates
[16:00] <Melodist> oh oay
[16:00] <Melodist> okay*
[16:00] <Melodist> then yeah
[16:00] <Melodist> october
[16:00] <FloodBot2> Melodist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:00] <thom_> does anyone else have issues during setup with intel based video cards?
[16:00] <Hover> when i do  "print to" it doesnt show my printer.
[16:00] <kasun> waldir, ok. does compiling gives problems?
[16:00] <_2> 10.4 bug maybe???   so. what would cause a display to work normally until the screen saver or bios energy saver kicked in and blanked the screen; then no display at all...  not in xorg nor tty, until you do a hard reset of the machine ?
[16:00] <xenon401> chakravanti: So if they are dates there will be no more by the 13.04? XD
[16:00] <chakravanti_> 10.04 = april 2010 and 10.10 is  oct 2010 etc.
[16:01] <waldir> kasun: I am not sure cause I do this very rarely. I'm right now installing the dependencies (development libs)
[16:01] <chakravanti_> xenon401, only for those 'left behind' LOL (j/k)
[16:01] <waldir> kasun: I wanted to know whether anyone here had any experience doing that so I could get a few pointers
[16:01] <xenon401> chakravanti: lol gotcha
[16:02] <kasun> waldir, are you going on the hard way? i.e. installing all the dependencies manually? well, you'll be stuck at one point for sure.
[16:02] <chakravanti_> xenon401, assuming the devs don't leave with the aliens too =P
[16:02] <xenon401> Oh man, I haven't been on this chat in forever! I was on a 2 week vacation and had no time to go on my laptop to learn.
[16:02] <waldir> kasun: what's the easy way?
[16:02] <kasun> waldir: I tried to that when i was running with no internet at home, and it sucks to the max
[16:03] <waldir> kasun: I'm following the instructions here: http://www.winehq.org/site/docs/wineusr-guide/installing-wine-source
[16:03] <xenon401> chakravanti_: The devs will leave !
[16:03] <Hover> !infrared
[16:03] <Beyecixramd> Hover: try "IrDA"
[16:04] <abhijit>  !irda | Hover
[16:04] <RJRDon> i just did apt-get install php5-xdebug to my Hardy LAMPS server and the cli version of php just gives me a 'Could not startup.' message. What did I do wrong?
[16:04] <Hover> Beyecixramd, i have already
[16:04] <Hover> i had also asked question..
[16:04] <sam898889> hey peeps. can someone give me a quick hand with partitioning ????
[16:04] <Hover> Beyecixramd, now my pc detects the priter.. but i cant print
[16:05] <abhijit> !ask | sam898889
[16:05] <kasun> waldir, I guess there's no easy way if you really need the newest version. Just a quote from given site: "we highly recommend installing via binary packages or by building source packages which can automatically satisfy their build dependencies."
[16:05] <chakravanti_> Hover, do you have the printer drivers installed?
[16:05] <sam898889> abhijit  i didnt ask a question because i dont have one. i need a hand. ~~  thanks.
[16:05] <waldir> kasun: yea, I read that. I wish they also provided those packages!
[16:05] <abhijit> sam898889, then you will not get hand. if you want support you will get it.
[16:06] <sam898889> support. hand. is there a difference?
[16:06] <sam898889> Anyway ~  anyone good at partitioning??????
[16:06] <chakravanti_> waldir,  if a package is in the repo and you need a more recent version use aptitude build-dep <pacakge>
[16:06] <Hover> cupsd?
[16:06] <waldir> kasun: anyway, I'm now running ./configure for what I expect to be the last time
[16:06] <Hover> chakravanti_, i dont think i have the driver installed.. but it could easily print thru usb connection.
[16:06] <perlsyntax> Anyone know any good subwoofers good for ubuntu?
[16:06] <waldir> chakravanti_: I'll try that, thanks
[16:07] <chakravanti_> waldir that will build all dependancies for the package and unless the new version has new dependancies you should be able to compile it but you might need to get development versions too
[16:07] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, subwoofers are s
[16:07] <perlsyntax> ?
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[16:07] <FloodBot2> yui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <kasun> waldir, cool. keep us updated. may be you don't need to install all dependencies if you already installed(then uninstalled) wine oler version
[16:07] <chakravanti_> whats withthe spam bots today?
[16:08] <madl> ¬¬
[16:08] <perlsyntax> bluesKaj,Sorry i just copy that from warmart site.
[16:08] <waldir> chakravanti_: I already installed all dependencies manually anyway, apparently. Let's see how following with make / make install will go.
[16:08] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, asubwoofer is a function of your audio system , it has nothing to do with the OS whether ubuntu or any other
[16:08] <chakravanti_> waldir wine compiles nicely but it might take you a while if your machine is older/slower
[16:08] <ChronosLegion> Does anyone know what port Ubuntu's remote desktop connection uses?
[16:08] <sam898889> anyone good at gparted???????
[16:09] <waldir> kasun: the ./configure script complained about some dependencies with errors, and for some others only warnings but I installed them anyway
[16:09] <perlsyntax> i know i no t sure what to get i get computers speckers with it to.
[16:09] <chakravanti_> Hover what printer are you using?
[16:09] <waldir> chakravanti_: i think this machine is reasonable :) I'll let you know when it's finished.
[16:09] <chakravanti_> i'll be gone i'm just drinking coffee
[16:10] <waldir> lol
[16:10] <Hover> chakravanti_, hplaserjet 2200
[16:10] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,I was thinking about getting this one.  Logitech LS21 Multimedia Speaker System for PCs
[16:10] <chakravanti_> hover one moment i will PM you i have a HP printer too you do need a driver hold on
[16:10] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, audio equipment is like anything else , you get what yo pay for.. if it sounds good a windows or a mac , it'll sound good on ubuntu as well.
[16:11] <Hover> chakravanti_, ok
[16:11] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,Just make sure it work with uubuntu before i buy it.
[16:11] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, I repeat ,if it sounds good on a windows or a mac , it'll sound good on ubuntu as well.
[16:11] <Beyecixramd> BluesKaj: that's not even near true
[16:12] <kasun> ChronosLegion, you may succeed at port 5900. Remote desktop servers are configured for 5900. If you have another server in same machine it gets 5901, third 5902 and so on
[16:12] <Beyecixramd> BluesKaj: X-fi cards from Creative use CPU instead of the integrated sound processor in Linux, resulting in a lower quality
[16:12] <perlsyntax> blueKaj,I have a soundbaster sound card just want to make sure what pc speckers i can get for it.:)
[16:12] <Beyecixramd> BluesKaj: you also lose the crystalizer and 3D surround, among other stuff in Linux
[16:12] <ChronosLegion> oh great, thanks kasun!
[16:12] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, it depends on your soundcard more than anything else , the equipment gets the signal from there.
[16:13] <BluesKaj> Beyecixramd, special effects doesn't mean good sound
[16:13] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,How do i know it will work with my soundcard.With my dell i didn't get a book with it.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, in the terminal , lspci | grep audio ...give us the output
[16:14] <pepito> how can I customize Ubuntu's behaviour at shutdown? (i.e. so that it automatically erases some directories within my home directory every time I shut down)
[16:15] <om26er> gnome-system-monitor shows only 1cpu for my C2D but shows two cpus for my netbook. is that right?
[16:15] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,I don't see any output
[16:16] <statler_> irc.enterthegame.com
[16:16] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,Here what i got
[16:16] <perlsyntax> Audio device: Creative Labs [SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio] CA0110-IBG
[16:18] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,Is that a gameing sound card?
[16:18] <waldir> kasun: still making... :P btw, have you ever had the infamous "no sound after hibernation/suspend" problem?
[16:18] <researcher1> how can I build a Ubuntu OS which is dedicated to media broadcasting
[16:19] <IdleOne> !remaster > researcher1
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[16:20] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, sound blaster /creative labs cards work well on ubuntu , you shouldn't have a problem altho like Beyecixramd says some effects that work on windows may not be included
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[16:20] <kasun> waldir, ok... no sound? nope. but occassionally my sounds stops working while I working. I have ubuntu 10.04. What's ur version?
[16:21] <waldir> same
[16:21] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj, what pc speckers would be good to get for 36.00
[16:21] <kasun> !remaster > kasunbg
[16:21] <kasun> !remaster > kasun
[16:21] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj,i never setup speckers with sound basters before.
[16:22] <raubvogel> What is the equivalent of -e from bash in dash?
[16:22] <waldir> kasun: so it stops during one session? that's weird. in my case the sound devices even disappear from the volume control app. they get to work again everytime there's a kernel update.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> perlsyntax, for 36 bucks ..hmmm ..your sound card deserves more expensive speakers than that ...I can't recommend anything for under 60 bucks ..sorry
[16:23] <Ascavasaion> When I plug  aUSB memory stick in I get the following message... Jul 19 17:22:41 fellowship kernel: [ 4421.572366] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4... It continues indefinitely until I unplug it.   The USB does not work.
[16:24] <kasun> waldir, yes. but it's rare. so, don't care so much. Anyway, I don't like Ubuntu hibernation. Ubuntu loads faster without hibernating ;)
[16:24] <christopheer> hello
[16:24] <perlsyntax> BlueKaj, i not sure why walmart is better then best buy for.
[16:24] <_2> raubvogel -e in what context ?
[16:24] <christopheer> is flash open source
[16:24] <aeon-ltd> christopheer: no
[16:25] <edbian> _2, I think he means calling the shell in the first place.
[16:25] <christopheer> ok
[16:25] <aeon-ltd> christopheer: if mean adobe, no
[16:25] <waldir> kasun: I don't hibernate usually. But this time I got a failure to resume from suspension, then the problem returned :'(
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[16:25] <FloodBot2> fiweuhr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <christopheer> I can't get get gnash towork on pppc ibook.
[16:25] <waldir> kasun: and until there's a kernel upade, I won't be able to hear anything on my pc :(
[16:26] <thom_> so should I take my intel graphics adapter issue elsewhere?
[16:26] <raubvogel> _2: as in a script (#! /bin/bash -e vs #! /bin/sh, which is dash as I found out today)
[16:26] <Stameni> hello, i have just realised that i am all time administrator on my system, does that mean that i am logged as a root all the time ?
[16:26] <christopheer> no
[16:26] <BluesKaj> christopheer, you could try flashplugin-nonfree
[16:26] <raubvogel> edbian:  right you are
[16:26] <christopheer> for ibook?
[16:26] <_2> raubvogel ummm in non-interactive -e is the same iirc
[16:26] <aeon-ltd> Stameni: you mean you don't need to type sudo?
[16:27] <Stameni> if i want to install something ?
[16:27] <_2> raubvogel in interactive there doesn't seem to be an exact eq
[16:27] <christopheer> you do aeon if you want root "sudo passwd root"
[16:27] <raubvogel> _2: I thought -e in bash was like set -o errexit
[16:27] <Pici> !noroot | christopheer
[16:27] <aeon-ltd> Stameni: you aren't logged in as root, if you have to type passwords for sudo or gksudo
[16:27] <arjunak01> does empathy and kopete save passwords in clear text like pidgin??
[16:28] <Stameni> aeon-ltd. i`ll try to install something now
[16:28] <_2> raubvogel yes and in dash  -e will exit on errors if in non-interactive
[16:28] <edbian> raubvogel, man bash:       -e file:              True if file exists.
[16:28] <aeon-ltd> Stameni: without sudo
[16:28] <_2> edbian ummm that's not where he is working.    script bang line  #!/bin/sh -e
[16:29] <Stameni> aeon-ltd, so just to type aptitude install amarok for instance ?
[16:29] <edbian> _2, He asked what is the equivalent for bash -e in dash.
[16:29] <raubvogel> edbian: I think you are thinking on a test, as in [ -e /my/nose]; I was thinking on the first line of the script (#! /bin/sh)
[16:29] <chanpa> Hi, how can I print this in python: print("You said " ans " correct?")  where "ans" is a number?
[16:29] <christopheer> that did not work ppc ubuntu.
[16:29] <_2> edbian yes, in a script
[16:29] <Stameni> aeon-ltd
[16:29] <Stameni> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:29] <Stameni> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:30] <_2> that's where context is important
[16:30] <christopheer> I love ubunytu
[16:30] <smallfoot-> I love ubuntu
[16:30] <Stameni> aeon-ltd but why than i am an administrator in "users and groups" ?
[16:30] <smallfoot-> I hate ubuntu
[16:30] <christopheer> why