[17:28] <bangolio> please! does anyone know what was changed on ubuntu 9.04 that's causing all of these issues with compiz?
[17:29] <coleys_> bangolio: Reinstall your nvidia driver.
[17:29] <coleys_> bangolio: Just deactivate, then reactivate.
[17:29] <ghoti> Brandon-X-Fox: there should be one installed by default that you can add to your GNOME-Panel
[17:29] <steven_> I do Ctrl + Alt + F2 and it takes me to the main terminal window or whatever. It will not accept my password though.  Why is that?
[17:29] <psywiped> bangolio, compiz is working better thant ever it nolongers show static when a window starts
[17:29] <Meinmartini> Okay...I just finished installing Ubuntu. Now it's stuck at the loading screen...is it normal for booting to take this long?
[17:29] <usr13> steven_: wrong password.
[17:29] <ghoti> Meinmartini: how long is 'this long'?
[17:29] <usr13> steven_: or wrong userid
[17:30] <steven_> I am using the same password that I use to log into the system
[17:30] <steven_> It is not working
[17:30] <Meinmartini> It's already been 5 minutes
[17:30] <steven_> Is it  a different password than the one that I use to login?
[17:30] <Meinmartini> I see the loading status bar...it progressed a little bit, now it looks not to be doing anything at all
[17:30] <roxtop> usr13: does nothing
[17:30] <louise_> usr13, i will install the latest madwifi from sourceforge then
[17:30] <usr13> steven_: username and password are BOTH case sensitive
[17:30] <steven_> yes, I tried that
[17:30] <steven_> still doesn't work
[17:30] <ghoti> Meinmartini: do you see your hard drive LED indicating IO activity?
[17:30] <usr13> roxtop: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:31] <bangolio> coleys_, psywiped, ati card here and it is definatly not working better than ever
[17:31] <bangolio> i am so sorry i upgraded to 9.04
[17:31] <coleys_> bangolio: I've heard ati is a little buggy.
[17:31] <usr13> louise_: Did you try rebooting?
[17:31] <bangolio> a little buggy?
[17:31] <coleys_> bangolio: Not from experience as I have nvidia.
[17:31] <penthief> MeinmartiniL <ctrl>-<alt>- f1
[17:31] <usr13> louise_: Did you try an older kernel?
[17:31] <bangolio> the menu takes a few good seconds to open
[17:31] <psywiped> bangolio, na just be sorry you have an ati card NVIDIA FTW
[17:31] <bangolio> ...
[17:31] <coleys_> Nvidia <3 :D
[17:31]  * bangolio sighs
[17:31] <Meinmartini> penthief: what does that do? Now I"m seeing kinit messages
[17:32] <bangolio> does anyone know what was changed on ubuntu 9.04 that's causing all of these issues with compiz?
[17:32] <bangolio> i want to revert
[17:32] <coleys_> bangolio: I think it's the ati driver.
[17:32] <coleys_> bangolio: That's all I can say, I don't really know.
[17:32] <psywiped> bangolio, have you reinstalled your video drivers?
[17:32] <roxtop> ati  > nida
[17:32] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:32] <louise_> usr13, I am afraid I have no older kernels listed in GRUb
[17:32] <penthief> Meinmartini: <ctrl>-<alt>-f7 to get back, but has it hung?
[17:32] <bangolio> psywiped: i did
[17:32] <coleys_> roxtop: lollollo
[17:32] <balu> hi
[17:32] <usr13> louise_: First try:  apt-cache search Atheros
[17:32] <Meinmartini> penthief: it won't let me get back
[17:32] <Meinmartini> Maybe I'll just try ctrl-alt-del
[17:33] <Bman> thanks coleys_
[17:33] <bangolio> can someone please answer my question?
[17:33] <Bman> it works :)
[17:33] <usr13> louise_: Can you connect to wired network?
[17:33] <coleys_> Bman: Worked?
[17:33] <roxtop> coleys_: sae to oyu
[17:33] <usr13> louise_: and get online with this box?
[17:33] <penthief> Meinmartini: Are you sure <ctrl>-<alt>-f7 doesn't take you back to the progress bar?
[17:33] <louise_> usr13, yes.
[17:33] <steven_> This is frustrating! My password does not work in Ctrl + Alt + F2!
[17:33] <ghoti> Meinmartini: C-A-F7 isn't working because X hasn't started yet.
[17:33] <MaT-dg> why is a screenshot of my whole screen (printscreen) smaller in size then a selection of 90% of my screen (super-mousebutton from compiz)?
[17:33] <louise_> usr13, thats how I am online
[17:33] <psywiped> no bangolio  were just going to make fun of youf for using an ati card
[17:33] <Meinmartini> Erm, okay, now it's starting
[17:33] <steven_> Is the main terminal window bugged?
[17:33] <lazerman> coleys can i run terminal from keyboard
[17:34] <Meinmartini> Does it just take longer from the initial boot after installation?
[17:34] <Bman> yes worked, only one question coleys_ : how do i minimalize in tray but not close mercury? when i click the cross it closes it down
[17:34] <coleys_> Bman: Search options, or something.
[17:34] <ghoti> steven_: the only possible causes for that are incorrectly typed username, incorrectly typed password, or a user without login permissions.
[17:34] <bangolio> ffs
[17:34] <Meinmartini> penthief: it didn't take me back
[17:34] <vish> hi , I have a Live USB of 9.04. I once selected the Hindi Language while booting up...now I am not able to revert to the original english language. PLZ help.
[17:34] <usr13> louise_: Ok, in the results of   apt-cache search Atheros    did you fine an installable Driver package?
[17:34] <lazerman> coleys like not using mouse, and then i could uninstall nvidia driver
[17:34] <coleys_> Bman: Find like show in system tray option, or close to system tray.
[17:34] <Meinmartini> I just hope regular boots don't take this long. :S
[17:34] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:34] <coleys_> Bman: Not sure of the exact dialogue, but it's usually around that.
[17:34] <viralnexxus> exit
[17:34] <roxtop> usr13: nope
[17:35] <shivam_> I have Ubuntu9.04, should I upgrade 8.10 or do a fresh install?
[17:35] <coleys_> lazerman: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-180 I think.
[17:35] <steven_> I keep typing steven and then my password as I normally do and it does not work lol
[17:35] <viralnexxus> exit
[17:35] <lazerman> coleys yeah but first i need to run terminal
[17:35] <roxtop> I don't think you understand
[17:35] <ghoti> shivam_ if you have 9.04, then 8.10 would be a downgrade :)
[17:35] <Openjsb> Wow good
[17:35] <roxtop> it won't start
[17:35] <louise_> usr13, I found three packages: madwifi-tools, which is already installed, atl2-source and hostapd. I think none are drivers
[17:35] <roxtop> at ALL
[17:35] <jeffyeh> ghoti: sorry for the delay, but adding .xprofile ended up preventing me from logging in. any other ideas?
[17:35] <lazerman> coleys and i don't see anything
[17:35] <usr13> roxtop: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:35] <psywiped> Shivam,  try to upgrade first then do a fresh if that doesnt work
[17:35] <Openjsb> I did it
[17:35] <louise_> usr13, atl2 is
[17:35] <coleys_> lazerman: Do ALT +F2 --> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-180 (check run in terminal)
[17:35] <roxtop> I have to go into recovery to access the terminal
[17:35] <bangolio> "is more likely an issue with Compiz itself rather than the xserver"
[17:35] <bangolio> it's not the driver genius
[17:35] <louise_> usr13, but not for my card I think
[17:35] <t94xr> is there a ubuntu cmd to access the external - internet ip?
[17:36] <walter> hey i was just wondering if wow will woork in 64bit linux?
[17:36] <Meinmartini> penthief: Was it just the initial boot after installation that caused the delay, or should I be worried?
[17:36] <usr13> louise_: Download from sourceforge I guess.. I dono...
[17:36] <psywiped> bangolio, uninstall compiz then reinstall
[17:36] <psywiped> bangolio, or you could get a good videocard from NVIDIA
[17:36] <usr13> louise_: I don't know why it would work once and not again.
[17:36] <ghoti> jeffyeh: yes. Once logged in, System -> preferences -> Startup Applications; click 'add', and enter your script's location
[17:36] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:36] <louise_> usr13, wait, I just found a way to get old kernels into gRUB
[17:36] <louise_> I will try it firs
[17:37] <louise_> usr13, brb
[17:37] <cdavis> Is there a "apt-get install lamp" or comparable meta package?
[17:37] <shivam_> ghoti: I mean to say I have 8.10 on my laptop, today I got 9.04 dvd. Now should I intstall 9.04 afresh or upgrade 8.10? Will there be any issues if at all I go for the upgrade?
[17:37] <steven_> I got it! It won't accept numbers in the password
[17:37] <ghoti> jeffyeh: you'll see three fields.  Name ("My Nifty Script"), Command: "~/myscript.sh"), and Command ("Does a nifty thing").
[17:37] <steven_> Now it works
[17:37] <steven_> That is lame
[17:37] <psywiped> Shivam, try to upgrade it first
[17:37] <jeffyeh> ghoti: alright, lemme try that
[17:37] <penthief> Meinmartini: dunno. I think boot time is faster on 9.04. I don't think the initial boot should be any longer.
[17:37] <ghoti> shivam_ I just upgraded a machine at work to 9.04 yesterday and it went with no problems at all
[17:38] <Bman> coleys_,  last question: when i click control alt 2, the at sign does not appear... some with 3 and 9,0,°,... can't have the third symbol. I'm using an azerty keyboard, and in my keyboard preferences i put it on belgium(where i live) so...
[17:38] <bangolio> psywiped, already reinstalled compiz, no dice
[17:38] <steven_> Is there a way to make the main terminal appear smaller? I mean to make the text in there appear smaller? It is rather large
[17:38] <Shivam> Oh i was wondering why you called me lol
[17:38] <Shivam> theres another shivam here
[17:38] <jeffyeh> ghoti: thanks! that did the trick!
[17:38] <psywiped> bangolio, then try a fresh install of 9.04
[17:38] <bangolio> does the jaunty upgrade also upgrades compiz?
[17:38] <ghoti> jeffyeh: \o/ glad to help!
[17:38] <bangolio> can i use an older version of compiz maybe?
[17:38]  * YeTr2 wishes it wasn't as challenging to switch from pulse/alsa to oss
[17:38] <psywiped> no bangolio
[17:38] <ghoti> steven_: in Terminal? Yes there is.
[17:39] <steven_> How?
[17:39] <coleys_> Bman: I'm not to sure about that Bman, but check if your keyboard is in belgium format still.
[17:39] <bangolio> /suicide
[17:39] <shivam_> ghoti: thank you, I will try to upgrade it first. Will the upgrade delete my documents?
[17:39] <ghoti> steven_: edit -> Profile Preferences; look at the Font setting
[17:39] <psywiped> compiz is seprate from ubuntu
[17:39] <roxtop> usr13: no help
[17:39] <steven_> I meant the one where it takes up the whole window
[17:39] <vish> Anybody?
[17:39] <bangolio> can i work without compiz?
[17:39] <ghoti> shivam_: it shouldn't, but it can't hurt to back up /home/ first :)
[17:39] <steven_> Or does that modify that one as well?
[17:39] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:39] <roxtop> it gives me the same thing as befire, on all threetimes
[17:39] <snek> bangolio, of course
[17:39] <bangolio> how
[17:39] <psywiped> bangolio, yea its just eyecandy
[17:40] <shivam_> ghoti: Thank you.
[17:40] <ghoti> steven_: oh, the textmode console?  I think there is, but I don't recall
[17:40] <coleys_> psywiped: You have touchpad volume controls?
[17:40] <snek> bangolio, disable effects under Appearance
[17:40] <ghoti> shivam_ anytime
[17:40] <bangolio> when i kill compiz i cant do antyhing
[17:40] <usr13> cdavis: Looks like you can do something like:  sudo tasksel install lamp-server  (Just looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP )
[17:40] <psywiped> coleys_, no its a wheel on the side of the computer
[17:40] <usr13> gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[17:40] <coleys_> psywiped: oh, I have the same issue... Like one touch makes the volume go up to max =p It's sketchballll.
[17:40] <usr13> roxtop: gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[17:40] <Bman> coleys_,  yes still on belgium
[17:40] <bangolio> YES THANK GOD
[17:41] <usr13> roxtop: What video card do you have?
[17:41] <snek> bangolio, now was that really so hard? :P
[17:41] <cdavis> usr13: Thanks
[17:41] <steven_> Yes, in textmode console the text is rather big and I'd love to make it smaller
[17:41] <usr13> cdavis: Sure, glad to help.
[17:42] <cdavis> usr13: I was not able to find it via apt-source so appreciate it
[17:42] <roxtop> "cannot open display"
[17:42] <roxtop> an ati 46540
[17:42] <roxtop> err
[17:42] <roxtop> 4650
[17:42] <steven_> I guess my other question is...in the window terminal, how do I get root access?
[17:42] <ghoti> steven_: I'm looking for information on that right now as I'd like to make the same change :)
[17:42] <steven_> hehe
[17:42] <steven_> Let me knwo when you find it! :)
[17:42] <ghoti> !sudo | steven_
[17:42] <leetsweden> Hi... When I mount devices in Nautilus (gnome-mount), the label will be "12GB Volume"... But I want to get mount-point ex. "/media/disk" will have the label 2disk"
[17:42] <snek> steven_, you don't use root in ubuntu
[17:42] <leetsweden> *"disk"
[17:42] <cdavis> usr13: must be old info, claims lamp-server package not found
[17:43] <RedSocrates> steven_: As far as the text console, you can use the setfont command to change the font, but you need terminal-compatible fonts installed.  Not entirely sure how to do that on Ubuntu
[17:43] <usr13> roxtop: That's interesting: "cannot open display"  Are you able to use sudo commands?  Like:  sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ?
[17:43] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:43] <coleys_> I gotta head out guys, later... Sorry bman... Good luck.
[17:43] <usr13> cdavis: That's what I was afraid of.
[17:43] <RedSocrates> steven_: Another way that might get you what you're looking for is just to add "vga=773" (without the quotes) to your kernel boot line in grub.
[17:43] <roxtop> usr123: I did thatt before
[17:43] <Bman> np coleys_ , thx!
[17:43] <roxtop> Yoiu told me to
[17:43] <cdavis> usr13: I can just do it manually, was hoping for a shortcut
[17:43] <roxtop> I can't start gtk OR X
[17:43] <usr13> cdavis: But it said "since 7.04" and I thought it was meaning perpetual.
[17:44] <roxtop> they just give me the purople screen
[17:44] <drbobb> ok lemme try again: Is there anything I can do to make the performance of the netbook remix interface on my machine suck less??
[17:44] <MyWay> somebody knows how to install raid with ubuntu 9.04? with the 8.10 i had to use the alternate cd, but i've read that now it isn't needed, is this true?
[17:44] <hmw> steven sudi -i
[17:44] <hmw> sudo
[17:44] <emf> Hi. I would like my user to have the POSIX capability CAP_SYS_NICE. Does anyone know how I would do this, without sudoing? suid doesn't seem to work, as far as I can tell....
[17:44] <RedSocrates> steven_: Of the two things I just suggested, I would try the latter first.  Do you know how to edit your kernel boot lines?
[17:44] <usr13> cdavis: Yea, just do apt-get install mysql apache etc.etc.
[17:45] <gabo> hola
[17:45] <roxtop> I'd doing this through the recovery terminal
[17:46] <drbobb> has no one here actually tried using the netbook remix?
[17:47] <steven_> I do not know how to edit the kernel boot lines
[17:47] <roxtop> So... yeah
[17:47] <roxtop> I don't know what to do
[17:48] <ghoti> steven_: WARNING:  I'm seeing a lot of reports that adding a vga= paramater to the kernel boot lines renders the text mode consoles useless
[17:48] <ghoti> steven: example:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=542233
[17:49] <Barre> i'm using unr 9.04 but i'm not able to get the userlist in any userlist enabled gdm-themes, what am I missing?
[17:49] <steven_> Is there even a reason to use the text console?
[17:49] <Zzeiss> On 9.04, how does the upstream SMTP server get configured?
[17:49] <RedSocrates> steven_: Okay, when you boot up, you'll have to get to the grub boot menu.  Then choose the line for the Ubuntu kernel that you typically boot and hit 'e'.  You should see a line that begins with "kernel."  Select that line and hit 'e' again.  Then add the end of the line, add "vga=773".
[17:49] <RedSocrates> steven_: Despite ghoti's warning, what I just told you to do is temporary.  It will only do it once, so it'll let you test it out to see if it works for you
[17:49] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[17:50] <RedSocrates> steven_: If it doesn't work, you can just reboot as normal
[17:50] <drbobb> ugh, I can't get rid of the maximus, it always gets respawned after I kill it, even though I've unchecked it in startup programs
[17:50] <MyWay> somebody knows how to install raid with ubuntu 9.04? with the 8.10 i had to use the alternate cd, but i've read that now it isn't needed, is this true?
[17:50] <RedSocrates> steven_: Also, note that the examples in ghoti's link are trying higher vga values.  vga=773 is more standard
[17:50] <roxtop> psywiped: you get a bettergraphics card lawl
[17:50] <usr13> roxtop: X -configure
[17:51] <usr13> roxtop: xorgsetup
[17:51] <roxtop> hmm
[17:51] <roxtop> first one game me a Segmentation fault at the end
[17:51] <usr13> roxtop: sudo xorgsetup
[17:51] <roxtop> xorg steup
[17:51] <roxtop> oops
[17:51] <roxtop> command not sound
[17:51] <steven_> What is a vga value?
[17:51] <psywiped> roxtop, what does a graphics card have to do with sound settings the audio works i just want to adjust it in smaller instruments
[17:51] <hmw> RedSocrates: you sure you mean vga=774 and not something like 0x773?
[17:52] <RedSocrates> hmw: Yes, I'm sure.  But not 774, 773
[17:52] <hmw> RedSocrates ok.
[17:52] <Zzeiss> How do I configure postfix to send mail out?
[17:52] <steven_> Why would someone want to choose a higher vga value?
[17:52] <usr13> roxtop: xdebconfigurator
[17:52] <ghoti> steven_: different values indicate different resolutions and colour depths
[17:52] <RedSocrates> steven_: The vga values set the framebuffer resolution for your console.
[17:52] <roxtop> I wonder why it would "do that?
[17:52] <hmw> steven_ i like to have a smaller font on the console, as I work with it often
[17:52] <usr13> roxtop: sudo xdebconfigurator
[17:53] <RedSocrates> steven_: Right, what ghoti said answers the rest of your question
[17:53] <sambismo> hi *, what package you suggest to monitoring network utilization ?
[17:53] <Dykam> Compiz failed after boot, I had it before, screenshot how it looked then, and how it looks somewhat now - http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1117/schermafdruk22.png
[17:53] <Dykam> after updating to 9.4
[17:53] <roxtop> command not found
[17:53] <usr13> roxtop: apt-get install xdebconfigurator
[17:53] <RedSocrates> hmw: By the way, the values that you mentioned will work as well.  The "vga=" options accepts different formatting of the numbers
[17:53] <hmw> RedSocrates what is 773?
[17:53] <ghoti> sambismo: ntop gives the most in-depth reporting with ease of use in my opinion
[17:53] <cloakey> Hi folks.
[17:53] <RedSocrates> hmw: 773 is 8-bit 1024x768
[17:53] <roxtop> coundn't fing package
[17:54] <sambismo> ghnomb
[17:54] <moveax> hi all,
[17:54] <hmw> RedSocrates: sounds like hex 305... let me check
[17:54] <roxtop> err
[17:54] <roxtop> unable to fetch package
[17:54] <RedSocrates> hmw: Off the top of my head, I think that's right.  Not sure
[17:54] <sambismo> ghoti   tnx, there is an how to monitor or limit network utilization ?
[17:54] <steven_> How do I get the grub boot menu?
[17:54] <usr13> roxtop: apt-cache search xorg setup
[17:54] <hmw> RedSocrates: yes, 0x305 = dec 773. be careful, what you pass to vga= since this difference
[17:54] <Zzeiss> How do I configure an outgoing email server?
[17:54] <steven_> !grub
[17:54] <ghoti> sambismo: I've heard good things about shaperd
[17:55] <ghoti> !info shaperd | sambismo
[17:55] <Zzeiss> steven_: You get to it during boot.
[17:55] <usr13> Zzeiss: Which mail server are you working on?
[17:55] <moveax> I'm experiencing glitches with my ATI in the desktop environment since the update to ubuntu 9.04
[17:55] <roxtop> gives me four things with explanations
[17:55] <moveax> someone knows about that ?
[17:55] <tuxitjaunty> aptoncd , i have this error : failed to work on jaunty
[17:55] <cloakey> Using xmodmap to acheive right-clicking on a one-button mouse means that I will be able to assign a key to *be* a right click button.  What I'd like is coupling a primary mouse click with the Ctrl key, in which case the click is interpreted as secondary.  Can anyone point me to mechanisms that might be capable of this?
[17:55] <bauruine> hi, i try to use a mdadm raid with preseed. i tried to install it manually and use debconf-get-selections to show what was done but i couldn't find any useful infos. isn't this possible?
[17:55] <RedSocrates> steven_: As the others just noted, it should automatically show you the menu when you boot up.  It usually says something like "Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11-generic"
[17:55] <roxtop> lixi-dev, libxi6, libx16-dbg, and xdebconfigurator
[17:55] <hmw> moveax: did you have fglrx installed before the upgrade?
[17:56] <usr13> roxtop: Install the one that looks most promising.
[17:56] <RedSocrates> steven_: Plus other options.
[17:56] <roxtop> ...
[17:56] <roxtop> I can't
[17:56] <moveax> hmw: yes, it was installed before
[17:56] <CNLiberal> i'm having some issues with my mdadm RAID5
[17:56] <roxtop> I'm not connected to the internet there
[17:56] <Zzeiss> usr13: Well, I'm kinda committed to using Emacs Rmail, which does a shell "mail" command.  At that point, I become clueless.  Except that I know the name of the mail server that the firewall allows smtp from (and from no other node).
[17:56] <usr13> roxtop: xdebconfigurator
[17:56] <CNLiberal> i can't delete a file from a folder on the RAID
[17:56] <steven_> Alright...I'll watch the boot for once...ha
[17:56] <usr13> roxtop: sudo apt-get install xdebconfigurator
[17:56] <CNLiberal> the file operations window just stays open
[17:56] <roxtop> ...
[17:56] <roxtop> I'm not connected to the internet there
[17:56] <hmw> moveax: on my radeon 9600, installing fglrx rendered my system unusable. I heard about problems with that driver, people kept suggesting the open source driver
[17:56] <roxtop> I can't do that
[17:56] <{g}> Hey People! Anybody familiar with rdiff-backup? this seems to be a extremely useful tool. I wonder if its possible to do some kind of dry run with it that only shows which files would be backup if run normaly.
[17:57] <hmw> moveax: i meant, after a fresh jaunty install, installing fglrx crashed my sys
[17:57] <RedSocrates> steven_: Okay.  Remember that you will have to hit 'e' to edit the values, and then 'e' again on the "kernel" line to add vga=773 to the end
[17:57] <steven_> Right
[17:57] <moveax> hmw: i'm using the open open source ATI driver
[17:57] <CNLiberal> hmm
[17:57] <RedSocrates> steven_: If it doesn't work, just reboot as normal without editing anything and come back :)
[17:57] <usr13> roxtop: Can you connect to internet with it?  Do you have a router you can plug into?
[17:57] <CNLiberal> i think i'll try umounting the RAID array..
[17:57] <hmw> moveax: that one should work normally. Here it does quite nicely.
[17:57] <CNLiberal> stopping the mythbackend service
[17:57] <Zzeiss> usr13: So, it's whatever the "mail" shell command would use if invoked from the command line.
[17:57] <r3dux> cloakey, looks like you'd need to read in both a key and mouse at the same time - doesn't sound terribly difficult  - check for mouse and ctrl key character in same code if you're writing something up?
[17:57] <CNLiberal> then running a jfs_fsck -f on the array
[17:58] <roxtop> I can't plug it into my router
[17:58] <roxtop> it's a room away
[17:58] <roxtop> it has a wireless thingy
[17:58] <hmw> moveax: maybe purging fglrx might help you, that driver is kind of nasty
[17:58] <valde> nasecito ayuda
[17:58] <ghoti> roxtop: that's what 100m ethernet cables are for ;)
[17:58] <roxtop> I dion't HAVE a 100m ethernet cable
[17:58] <usr13> roxtop: Connect via wireless;  iwconfig
[17:58] <hmw> roxtop: fail *g*
[17:58] <r3dux> Anyone changed their default jaunty kernel cos it's laggy as hell?
[17:58] <Magician> anyone need some help here??
[17:58] <RedSocrates> steven_: By the way, if you'd like a fuller explanation, here's a decent (perhaps too informative) guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[17:58] <CNLiberal> i need help
[17:59] <Magician> ok whats going on
[17:59] <hmw> Magician: the kernel is not laggy per se. Check, if you have that DNS/ipv6 problem.
[17:59] <CNLiberal> i'm having mdadm issues
[17:59] <moveax> hmw: I don't know if a purge will help. I've given a look to xorg.conf and the ATI driver is used
[17:59] <usr13> roxtop:  iwlist scan
[17:59] <CNLiberal> i have been trying to delete a file from the array, but the file operations window never closes and the file is never moved to trash
[17:59] <CNLiberal> i've been trying to bittorrent a file, and transmission keeps hanging
[17:59] <Magician> hmmm interesting
[17:59] <r3dux> I think the kernel is laggy... and I think latencytop proves it..
[17:59] <hmw> moveax: i saw a lot of tutorials, that recommended purging the driver completely for different reasons. You could give it a try, but I am just guessing here
[17:59] <usr13> roxtop:  dhclient eth1  #where eth1 is the wifi interface
[17:59] <CNLiberal> i think there's something wrong with the array
[18:00] <Magician> ok go through the operations you are doing
[18:00] <roxtop> "Interface doesn't suppoer scanning : Network is down"
[18:00] <moveax> hmw: ok, thank you
[18:00] <cloakey> r3dux: I'm looking for a mechanism to do this system-wide, actually.  I might write something up, but a preferable alternative would be software that already does this.  I assumed this might have crossed the Mactel team.
[18:00] <moveax> hmw: I will try
[18:00] <CNLiberal> i ran top
[18:00] <hmw> moveax: dont forget to check xorg.0.log
[18:00] <usr13> roxtop: Is this a fully updated 9.04 system?
[18:00] <Dykam> The alpha is gone from my desktop, all is hard edged. Got a message about it during loading. Using compiz
[18:00] <CNLiberal> and it's telling me that the kjournald process has been running for 120 some odd hours
[18:00] <Magician> ok hold on just a sec
[18:00] <roxtop> yes
[18:00] <r3dux> cloakey - get youself an interupt handler for keyboard and mouse, and write a TSR that waits for them..
[18:00] <roxtop> running the other one now
[18:00] <vish> hi , I have a Live USB of 9.04. I once selected the Hindi Language while booting up...now I am not able to revert to the original english language. PLZ help.
[18:01] <Magician> which array file are you trying to remove
[18:01] <usr13> roxtop:  iwconfig eth1 essid linksys  #where linksys is essid of wiri router and eth1 is wifi interface
[18:01] <CNLiberal> just a video file
[18:01] <CNLiberal> it's abotu 1.1GBs
[18:01] <CNLiberal> last weeks Chuck episode
[18:02] <CNLiberal> mythcommflag has been running for 51 hours
[18:02] <Magician> ok hold on just a sec
[18:02] <usr13> roxtop: and then: dhclient eth1   #where eth1 is wifi nic
[18:02] <r3dux> cloakey - why do you want both keyboard and mouse input to kick something off?
[18:02] <steven_> Thanks for the framebuffer link
[18:02] <roxtop> ...done
[18:02] <selocol> im trying to make a grub splashimage, and the code includes splashimage(hdX,Y) -- how do i find the values for X and Y?
[18:02] <usr13> roxtop: and then: dhclient eth1   #where eth1 is wifi nic
[18:02] <ghoti> steven_: so it worked?   What on earth is a/the kernel??? I am going to venture a wild guess it is what allows the software and hardware to talk back and forth
[18:03] <eseven73> !kernel | steven_
[18:03] <r3dux> steven_, basically, yes. It's the "guts" of any system that handles the io abd subsystems that make it all hang together
[18:03] <RedSocrates> steven_: You're basically right
[18:03] <roxtop> done
[18:03] <usr13> roxtop: Test connection:  host av.com
[18:03] <ramon> Alguém do brasil?
[18:03] <hmw> steven_ the kernel is the core program running your computer. It is there to manage the ressources and provide services to the programs like file access, network, keyboard, etcetc
[18:03] <steven_> woohoo!
[18:03] <Zzeiss> usr13: the problem seems to be that I need to route outgoing email through the company's SMTP server, which is the only thing allowed to do outbound SMTP connections.  And I don't know where to set that bit of configuration - to domain-masquerade as that server, and to route to that server.
[18:03] <ghoti> steven_: the kernel is the very core of the operating system.  It's the 'traffic director' for all your hardware and software
[18:04] <usr13> roxtop: sudo apt-get install xdebconfigurator
[18:04] <BloodElf> hello. i recently installed ubuntu 9.04. when i type a command in the shell (bash) there is a big pause when the command is not found. i've been using linux before and i had no such problem. any ideas?
[18:04] <roxtop> connection timed out
[18:04] <BloodElf> is it something that can be fixed from the shell?
[18:04] <ramon> Oi, pode me ajudar?
[18:04] <Apaxis> BloodElf: youre not running live? whats your $PATH?
[18:04] <usr13> roxtop: Did you get the essid right?  What is the essid of your wifi router?
[18:04] <r3dux> Is there an easy way to install the rt kernel? Latencies more like 5ms than 200?
[18:04] <Code_Bleu> is there a way to get a list of packages installed, that doesnt include the default OS packages (ie ones that you have installed after the OS has been installed)?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> BloodElf: what command are yuo using?
[18:04] <roxtop> internet
[18:05] <BloodElf> Apaxis: it's not live cd. i've installed it on my hard drive
[18:05] <sobersabre> hi, my machine freezes dead. can somebody help me to troubleshoot this ?
[18:05] <BloodElf> ActionParsnip: you mean interpreter?
[18:05] <r3dux> Code-Bleu - AptOnCD might give you something like that
[18:05] <ghoti> Code_Bleu: for the first part of that, dpkguqery -l | grep ii
[18:05] <BloodElf> my $PATH is ok i guess - /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[18:05] <ghoti> Code_Bleu: I'm not sure how to remove 'base' packages from the list, but that might be a start
[18:05] <Apaxis> BloodElf: this happens for every unknown command?
[18:05] <BloodElf> Apaxis: yes
[18:06] <sobersabre> The machine is nForce based, with nvidia gpu for graphics, 3GB of RAM.
[18:06] <Code_Bleu> r3dux: doesnt that also include things like Ubuntu-Desktop package?
[18:06] <BloodElf> the pause is around 1-2 seconds
[18:06] <hmw> i just installed libdvdcss2 and w32codecs, but totem complains about missing codecs. Just did the same on another machine, where it initially refused to work, but suddenly started to work. What is going on?
[18:06] <sobersabre> the machine is getting dead with linux, but with windows it runs for days.
[18:06] <r3dux> Code - prolly, apply the common-sense filter ;)
[18:06] <Apaxis> hmm
[18:06] <ghoti> BloodElf: fix: stop mistyping your commands :)
[18:06] <BloodElf> ghoti: lol :)
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> in linux - spelling counts
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> BloodElf: no, I just want an example of what commands you are having issues with
[18:06] <BloodElf> it's really annoying
[18:06] <Apaxis> action: i think all of them
[18:07] <r3dux> How vary dare you, Dr_Willis... Oh, "counts"...
[18:07] <BloodElf> ActionParsnip: every command that can not be found
[18:07] <ghoti> ActionParsnip: I can confirm the issue- I get about a ~0.5 sec delay when I deliberately type a noncommand
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> BloodElf: you could try copying .bahrc from /etc/skel  ackup the curerent one
[18:07] <Apaxis> that is odd
[18:07] <Apaxis> erm
[18:07] <ghoti> ActionParsnip:  BloodElf: I get no such delay when I specify a path, e. g. /home/ghoti/asdgafg
[18:08] <BloodElf> ghoti: for command that exist there is no delay. only when the shell can not find the command
[18:08] <ghoti> ActionParsnip:  BloodElf: so it *may* be a path parsing and/or shell issue.  I'll try installing zsh
[18:08] <r3dux> Every command that cannot be found is the entire search space of everything in your path bar the executables - ~0.5second delay is a problem why?
[18:08] <BloodElf> ghoti: i'm using bash
[18:08] <kronopio> hello
[18:08] <Thursap> why the os realize my wireless card but it cant work ???
[18:08] <ghoti> BloodElf: my point is that if I try '/home/ghoti/thisdoesnotexist.sh', there is no delay
[18:09] <BloodElf> r3dux: it's not really a problem. more of annoying thing
[18:09] <cdavis> I want to move /var/www to /home/cdavis/var/www but I keep getting permission denied access / in my apache2 error logs? I don't see any apparmor reference in the logs and I have the dir created
[18:09] <kronopio> I have never been on an IRC and don't want to be disruptive but need some help
[18:09] <Apaxis> ghoti: well of course not, because its looking at one location and seeing "oh no file there"
[18:09] <BloodElf> ghoti: ah yes. when the full path is present there is no delay even when the command can not be found
[18:09] <BloodElf> so it's a PATH issue?
[18:09] <ghoti> Apaxis: I realize this. I was differentiating from when the $PATH is being searched.
[18:09] <Apaxis> his problem exists soimewhere in the searching of the PATH, internal aliases or functions or somewhere else
[18:09] <r3dux> BloodElf - I'm sorry you have to wait 0.5 seconds when you mistype a command. I hope, in time, you can get over it.
[18:10] <BloodElf> ghoti: Apaxis: i had no such issue before with other linux distros
[18:10] <dachillaz> hi can somebody help me with cpufreq-selector?.. I alway receives  the error "no cpufreg support"..
[18:10] <steven_> What are io abd subsystems?
[18:10] <BloodElf> r3dux: it's actually 1 second :)
[18:10] <r3dux> hehe, worse!!
[18:10] <BloodElf> and the load of my machine is low
[18:10] <drbobb> HELLO any idea where I could find help with the ubuntu-netbook-remix?
[18:10] <Apaxis> what kind of cpu are you on?
[18:10] <hmw> kronopio: 1) don't worry! 2) use common sense 3) always type the name of the person, you are talking to, in the line (so their IRC clients can make a "beep" 4) always write it in one single line 5) dont ask the same thing over and over again 6) dont ask to ask, just ask. 7) How can we help you?
[18:10] <BloodElf> so it's not a overloaded machine issue
[18:10] <kronopio> so everyoe here is a volunteer?
[18:10] <dimm> hello
[18:10] <ghoti> BloodElf: Apaxis: ActionParsnip: There is no such delay when using another shell such as zsh.  I now am blaming /bin/bash for the delay
[18:10] <coleys_> kronopio: Yes
[18:10] <kronopio> hello
[18:10] <usr13> Code_Bleu: ls -ltr  /var/lib/dpkg/info/   #note dates [in relationship to date of install] ... I think...
[18:10] <dachillaz> i have intel centrino M 1,8 ghz
[18:10] <kronix> And pick a new nick, kronopio.
[18:10] <steven_> !subsystem
[18:10] <kronix> You're cramping my style.
[18:11] <hmw> kronopio: yes.
[18:11] <steven_> !io
[18:11] <steven_> eesh
[18:11] <burntresistor> i wanted to try beryl but there website isnt working right , does anyone know if its in packet manager . i didnt see it
[18:11] <dimm> i need irc-bot which have translate function. eggdrop is good for  me?
[18:11] <hmw> kronopio: use the TAB key for nick name auto completion. I wont see, if youre talking to me, if you dont type my name, because i am not constatnly looking at the chat.
[18:11] <BloodElf> burntresistor: yes, there is a package for debian/ubuntu
[18:12] <PolitikerALT> burntresistor: but actually compiz is more recent than beryl
[18:12] <kronix> Or take it to PM.
[18:12] <gharz> anybody here who's using xaralx??? i've installed xaralx and noticed that animation option is not included in the package??? how do i enable this? please help
[18:12] <robdig> BloodElf: by default, ubuntu bash searches a database for commands that don't exist on path, probably leading to the delay. if full path is typed, it doesn't do it. pkg name is command-not-found
[18:12] <devilsadvocate> hi - i'm trying to get some usb to serial stuff to work. modprobe usbserial gives me a no such module error. did it change/move or something? any help would be appreciated
[18:12] <kronix> Instead of, you know, giving him a lesson in the main window.
[18:12] <k03chandra> i have run into a trouble, can anybody help?
[18:12] <ghoti> !ask | k03chandra
[18:13] <BloodElf> robdig: thank you. that put light on the issue
[18:13] <k03chandra> please
[18:13] <robdig> BloodElf: np
[18:13] <geelnostril> hello
[18:13] <BloodElf> robdig: any ideas how can i disable this?
[18:13] <k03chandra> i have installed a broken package
[18:13] <usr13> k03chandra: how can we help you.
[18:13] <ghoti> BloodElf: apt-get remove command-not-found :)
[18:13] <robdig> BloodElf: let me check
[18:13] <Apaxis> bloodelf: id recommend uninstalling that
[18:13] <usr13> k03chandra: apt-get -f install
[18:13] <k03chandra> now i try to install new package it says system has broken packages
[18:13] <kronopio> what does it mean to tab someone
[18:14] <k03chandra> but it asks to remove around 1200 packages
tab
 hi
[18:14] <web-user11> hello?
[18:14] <burntresistor> it says i have compiz already installed is that the 3d manager that just animated the windows a little by bending them when moving is there a way to change the appearance completely beryl had a  picture of a cube
[18:14] <tuxitjaunty> how can i open .mdb file with openoffic in jaunty?
[18:14] <Geine> Hi all, I just convert my file-system to Ext4 -- is it true the old files which created on Ext3 not benefit from new Ext4 ?
[18:14] <k03chandra> it says removing these packages will left my system unusable
[18:15] <Apaxis> burntresistor: hold alt and move your mouse
[18:15] <kronopio> hmw: like this?
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Geine:  ive never heard that.. and i dont see why that would be true
[18:15] <lazerman> anyone knows which nvidia driver is a working one for ubuntu?\
[18:15] <BloodElf> burntresistor: try dragging the desktop with the middle button of your mouse
[18:15] <k03chandra> broken package = g++
[18:15] <Apaxis> burntresistor: or ctrl+alt, i dont remember
[18:15] <Apaxis> or what he said
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> lazerman:  the 180 version i think works on my 8800gtsxxx
[18:15] <kronopio> hmw: hello
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia
[18:15] <ghoti> burntresistor: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:16] <dachillaz> my cpufreq-selector gives me the error "no cpufreq support"... I already installed gnome-applets.. and I have Ubuntu 9.4... and changed in the console "sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector"... but I can't install the cpu controll gnome-applet... I have a Intel Centrino M 1,8Ghz cpu
[18:16] <Geine> Dr_Willis, I see this from the atrical which help me to convert the file system but they not put any more details about this issue
[18:16] <lazerman> Dr Willis so 180 should work on the most ?
[18:16] <usser> Geine, yes it is true. extents is only enabled on newly created files
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> lazerman:  depending on the card.. it depends on what package to use.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> what do 'extents' actually do then.. and what if you just 'touch' a file? :)
[18:16] <k03chandra> help me pleae !!!
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> lazerman:  not really..  it may or may not.
[18:16] <lazerman> i used nvidia-glx-96 first via synaptic, but it caused black screen
[18:16] <lazerman> i didn't try 180 yet
[18:16] <dimm> k03chandra, read mans
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> lazerman:  my card is a bit older now.. so try them all i guess
[18:17] <dimm> k03chandra, what happen?
[18:17] <BloodElf> great. apt-get remove command-not-found fixed the issue :D
[18:17] <Geine> usser, if I do touch for the old files is this will fix it?
[18:17] <k03chandra> i installed broken g++ package
[18:17] <jeffreyf1> k03chandra:what's the problem/error?
[18:17] <hmw> kronopio: hi.
[18:17] <lazerman> ok
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> I like the 'command-not-found' stuff :)
[18:17] <k03chandra> and removing it will remove 1200 packages
[18:17] <lazerman> one of them should work?!
[18:17] <Apaxis> Dr_Willis: how does it help you?
[18:17] <dimm> k03chandra, remove it and install stable version
[18:17] <k03chandra> what should i do?
[18:17] <Apaxis> Dr_Willis: does it recommend packages if you type an unknown command?
[18:17] <usser> Geine, the fix they suggest is move all your files back/forth, from live cd
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  it rembneds me what i need to install when i forget.
[18:18] <dimm> k03chandra, remove it without any dependencies
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  exactly
[18:18] <eseven73> what's the command to inject something into syslog? like for example on webmin you can do a command at the end of a backup and I want it to add a entry in syslog saying something like "backup of /home completed on May 2nd 2009 10:16AM"
[18:18] <Apaxis> cool, not too shabby then i guess
[18:18] <k03chandra> how i do tht?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  -->  macs
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> The program 'emacs' can be found in the following packages: * emacs22
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> and so on...
[18:18] <dimm> k03chandra, how you install g++ ?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> oops typo :)
[18:18] <FloodBot2> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <k03chandra> .deb file
[18:18] <Apaxis> nice
[18:18] <r3dux> sudo apt-get install g++   ?
[18:18] <master> wie is er nederlands?????????
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  on of the things ubuntu has that ive never seen in other disrtos.
[18:19] <Geine> usser, move it to different location?
[18:19] <usr13> Someone asked "how can i open .mdb file".  That person was more than likely sent the database file rather than the intended document.  It is the sender's mistake.
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  and ubutnus tab-completion is very very well done
[18:19] <k03chandra> from a .deb file
[18:19] <usser> Geine, yes.
[18:19] <nightrid3r> master: #ubuntu-nl
[18:19] <dimm> k03chandra, what do you mean "from .deb file"
[18:19] <Razmanaz> Someone know why my fullscreen applications get windowed after a while, and I have to minimize them then maximize again to make it fullscreen?
[18:19] <k03chandra> it was a .deb package
[18:19] <Apaxis> Dr_Willis: most distros dont have it in the bashrc but you can add . /etc/bash_completion to complete all kinds of commands, i know it comes in debian just isnt in the bashrc
[18:19] <master> are here dutch guys??
[18:20] <k03chandra> i just double clicked it
[18:20] <hmw> hmw_pidgin hi
[18:20] <usser> Geine, theres also e4defrag, but its still in development
[18:20] <r3dux> dimm > you're prolly better off using: sudo apt-get install buildtools
[18:20] <usr13> Razmanaz: Depends on the application. Some will use F11, others Ctrl-f  others Ctrl-Shift-f
[18:20] <dimm> k03chandra, try 'man apt-get'
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Apaxis:  the 'settings' for bash_completon (ie the completions themselfs) are tweaked organized  and well done. :)
[18:20] <master> who are dutch????
[18:20] <nightrid3r> master: join #ubuntu-nl daar zit het vol met nederlanders
[18:20] <master> motherfuckers
[18:20] <master> you are sheepfuckers??
[18:20] <Seeker`> !ops | master
[18:20] <master> iam going
[18:21] <master> bye
[18:21] <eseven73> !ohmy | master
[18:21] <r3dux> master? Get out.
[18:21] <k03chandra> ok i am trying
[18:21] <dimm> k03chandra, try 'man apt-get' in terminal and you will know how to remove packages, also read about removing without dependencies
[18:21] <steven_> I don't like people who cuss. Please leave.
[18:21] <Razmanaz> usr13: thanks, I'll try that combination if it happens again
[18:21] <eseven73> what's the command to inject something into syslog? like for example on webmin you can do a command at the end of a backup and I want it to add a entry in syslog saying something like "backup of /home completed on May 2nd 2009 10:16AM"
[18:21] <k03chandra> thanks ,dimm
[18:22] <lastman> Is there still a problem with gksu? I cant start an administration terminal (gksu gnome-terminal)
[18:22] <hmw> kronopio hi
[18:22] <anodesni> Hi, almost all my apps that I start on my 2nd screen (separate x-screen) start on my 1st screen, like tvtime, vlc and totem.  Ubuntu's taking an absurd amount of time to boot. I've been checking the support forums and they suggest modifying (?) some of the code. But I don't even know where to go to make changes to the code. I'm totally new at this. Help? :O
[18:23] <fryguy> anodesni: run a single X server
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  well for nvidia cards - you can set the 'primary monitor'  to be the one you want.
[18:23] <anodesni> fryguy, that's not an option
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  or switch the cables. :)
[18:23] <glitsj16> eseven73: logger i believe is what you're looking for
[18:23] <fryguy> anodesni: it probably is an option, unless you have an exotic video card
[18:23] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, this is a bug, It used to work
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  bug with what.. nvidia? twinview? gnome?
[18:23] <hmw> hmw_pidgin
[18:23] <Meinmartini> They even reference bootchart, but I don't have a clue with how to read it
[18:23] <usr13> Meinmartini: Just turn some stuff off that you don't need to load.  for instance, if it's not a laptop, you can probally turn off pcmcia  etc . etc.
[18:23] <anodesni> fryguy, I have a nvidia 7600gt and it used to work
[18:24] <r3dux> eseven73, Good question! sudo cat kernel.log + "Warning Will Robinson!"?!
[18:24] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, I guess bug with xorg
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  i did a clean install here on my nvidia 8800gtsxxx with the 180 driver - i dont see that issue really.
[18:24] <kronopio> kronopio
[18:24] <hmw> kronopio you should hear a sound now
[18:24] <Meinmartini> usr13: it is a laptop. But do I make changes before it boots, or after it loads? I don't know where to go
[18:24] <kronopio> I don't
[18:24] <fryguy> anodesni: there is plenty of information on ubuntu wiki for running dual monitors with nvidia (and ati, and other brand) cards.  I'd suggest reviewing some of that stuff.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> anodesni: install nvidia-glx-180
[18:24] <Apaxis> anodesni: i think it might be a setting man
[18:24] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, do you have a separate xscreen
[18:24] <usr13> Meinmartini: services-admin
[18:25] <kronopio> happy derby everyone!
[18:25] <r3dux> derby?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  im using twinview for 2 montiors in a wide desktop
[18:25] <cdavis> I want to move /var/www to /home/cdavis/var/www but I keep getting permission denied access / in my apache2 error logs? I don't see any apparmor reference in the logs and I have the dir created
[18:25] <anodesni> fryguy, You don't understand, it should start on the screen where you start the program. It used to work with all versions of linux, but the new ones like mandriva 2009.1 and ubuntu 9.04
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> gnome seems to rember where the window was last at here.. and restarts it there
[18:25] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, with twinview you can't run a program fullscreen on the 2nd monitor
[18:25] <pcfreak30> k i have a bad issue
[18:25] <fryguy> anodesni: and your question was looking for a "solution or workaround", which I provided.
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  Hmm.. I can.
[18:26]  * Dr_Willis checks
[18:26] <anodesni> fryguy, Of course not
[18:26] <pcfreak30> i put my computer in hybernate
[18:26] <pcfreak30> last night
[18:26] <Strav> He. I would like to submit a bug concerning xorg virtual resolution in jaunty but before, I'd really like to verify if it's not a configuration problem on my side.
[18:26] <usr13> Meinmartini: System > Amdinistration > Services  #or something like that
[18:26] <Meinmartini> usr13: I'll check after it boots...if it boots
[18:26] <pcfreak30> booted it up this morning
[18:26] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, can you run tvtime or zsnes?
[18:26] <pcfreak30> now my phynox bios gave and error
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  gmplayer, move video to 2nd monitor.. hit F - its fullscreen on 2nd monitor
[18:26] <Sebboh> Hi.  I just built an ubuntu virtual machine so that I could install PHP4 in it for testing.  Now I see that PHP4 isn't in the Jaunty repositories.  ..Makes sense, I suppose.  What's the last version of Ubuntu that *does* have PHP4? (for testing purposes).
[18:26] <pcfreak30> aimed at keyboard/mouse
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  zsnes is 32bit only... so  it dont run on this 64bit system
[18:27] <pcfreak30> when i remove it all no error
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> anodesni:  never tried tv time.
[18:27] <anodesni> Dr_Willis, I guess you didn't try openGL games etc
[18:27] <pcfreak30> grub goes though
[18:27] <pcfreak30> xubuntu wont load
[18:27] <r3dux> Strav 0- just submit the problem with reproducabe instructions and let bod sort it out ;)
[18:27] <dureyes> what can you do with Ubuntu 9.04 that you can't do with 8.04 LTS  ?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> i rarely play games. :)
[18:27] <fryguy> Sebboh: if you want to test php4, consider building/installing from source. php4 is pretty ancient at this point, and I'd be surprised if any distro had packages for it
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> pcfreak30: could tell your bios to not stop on any errors to test
[18:27] <hmw> dureyes: the new gnome is faster
[18:27] <pcfreak30> it does not checxk the hd every time
[18:27] <Strav> r3dux: yep. Considering the flow of this channel, I guess that's a better option anyway.
[18:28] <r3dux> Dr_willis - you could always run zsnes on wine..
[18:28] <usser> dureyes, bluetooth. ext4. better wifi
[18:28] <pcfreak30> fasr boot is enabled
[18:28] <Sebboh> fryguy, old versions retain their original packages in the repositories.
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  or i couls use snes9x :)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> dureyes: its just the life of support, the OS is identical except the jaunty one has a newer kernel
[18:28] <dureyes> ext4 is better?
[18:28] <glitsj16> cdavis: have you tried the "sudo a2enmod userdir" commabd to enable apache2's userdir module yet ?
[18:28] <pcfreak30> also i never get a boot logo cause i use a lcd
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> dureyes: theres reports of data loss in hard reboots
[18:28] <r3dux> Dr_Willis, there is thar.
[18:28] <usser> anodesni, try snes9x 1.51, not the one from the repos
[18:28] <r3dux> "that"
[18:28] <pcfreak30> but it stays dark blue, then no signal, the login
[18:29] <anodesni> OMG
[18:29] <Jack8899> Kubuntu 9.04 won't connect to my Router (WPA,TKIP,PSK, Hidden SSID). Can you help me please?!
[18:29] <pcfreak30> its wont go though
[18:29] <donnyw> could someone help me with doing a clean install on my laptop?
[18:29] <fryguy> Jack8899: consider trying wicd, i've found it to be much better for wireless connectivity than networkmanager
[18:29] <hacker_kid> how can i get gedit to stop editing files in dos mode and inserting CRLF's into the file?
[18:29] <`Ned> hello, if I save test1.py in /home/Ned, what do I have to type to run it?
[18:29] <k03chandra> i am using Dell vostro 1400, the audio volume is too low.....:(
[18:29] <usser> anodesni, https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> gltron runs on the 2nd monitor.. but i dont see how to fullscreen it. :)
[18:29] <usr13> donnyw: Sure, what is your first question?
[18:29] <r3dux> Dr_Willis, I went to a computer game museum today and played on early atari's, a virtual boy, played r-type and street fighter II in arcade cabinets... no relevance - it was just awesome =D
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  :) make me feel old why dont ya!
[18:30] <anodesni> usser, my problem is with opengl apps in general
[18:30] <r3dux> lol
[18:30] <fryguy> k03chandra: so open up a mixer (alsamixer for example, if you are using alsa) and increase the volume
[18:30] <donnyw> usr13: well, I have a messed up 9.04 on my laptop currently, so I'm just trying to clean install it
[18:30] <pcfreak30> any ideas
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> isent compiz using opengl?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> r3dux: people use linux + mame + roms (bought legally) to recreate that
[18:30] <jbl1> `Ned: python /home/Ned/test1.py should do it
[18:30] <usr13> donnyw: What happened?
[18:30] <k03chandra> i am using Dell vostro 1400, the audio volume is too low.....:(
[18:30] <r3dux> Bought Legally - lolol.... Yes, I own them. I own them allllllll
[18:30] <donnyw> usr13: but when I get to the partitioning, it just sees Vista, the 9.04 that's there, and it wants to install besides both of those
[18:30] <dureyes> will 9.04 ever be a LTS  release?
[18:30] <fryguy> k03chandra: see my comment to you above
[18:30] <Jack8899> fryguy: can i install it from the Kubuntu CD?
[18:31] <hmw> dureyes: no. 9.10 will be
[18:31] <donnyw> usr13: whereas I would prefer it replace the 9.04 that's there currently
[18:31] <fryguy> Jack8899: no idea, this is #ubuntu, not #kubuntu
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> dureyes: i think the next one is, not sure
[18:31] <k03chandra> its maximum
[18:31] <usr13> Just delete the 9.04 partitions
[18:31]  * r3dux has a full MAME set, plus N64, SNES, Megadrive, C64 (115,000 roms) etc etc - I own then all ;)
[18:31] <dureyes> thanks....
[18:31] <`Ned> jbl1, thanks
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> r3dux: ... err... sure.. :) heh
[18:31] <donnyw> usr13: what's the easiest way to do that?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  what no  Timex Sinclare!
[18:32] <k03chandra> its still too low :(
[18:32] <Geine> usser, how to mount file system from live-cd with full access ?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> r3dux: no spectrum, for shame
[18:32] <r3dux> Dr_Willis - now I feel inadequate!
[18:32] <fryguy> Geine: use the 'mount' command
[18:32] <fryguy> Geine: basic syntax is mount <device> <mountpoint>
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  amiga emulators also :)
[18:32] <usser> Geine, is it 9.04 live cd?
[18:33] <usr13> donnyw: There should be an option to manually edit the partitions, choose that.  Once you've deleted the Linux partitons, that should give the partition manager the free space it wants.
[18:33] <Geine> fryguy, mount -t ext4 /dev/sda6 /mnt -- works but I cannot do any changes
[18:33] <r3dux> I have the full TOSEC Amiga Set - it's a good few gig of compressed ADFs
[18:33] <usser> Geine, you have to use sudo. ie sudo cp /mnt/file ~
[18:33] <Geine> it's 9.04 live-cd
[18:33] <usr13> donnyw: But if all else fails, you can do it via CLI
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Geine:  for linyx filesystems you must have the proper owndership of the files/dirs.. you dont override them with mount options
[18:33] <r3dux> Only prob is that it contains each crack by each group - so I've got 20 copies of Turrican II etc...
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Geine:  or use sudo.. but that then will make the files owned by root.
[18:33] <donnyw> usr13: what's CLI?
[18:33] <fryguy> Geine: make sure you are the correct user (or root). permissions for extX filesystems are stored at the filesystem level as uid/gid, so if your current user uid doesn't match (or you aren't root), you'll run into issues
[18:33] <usr13> donnyw: Command Line Interface
[18:34] <donnyw> usr13: ah
[18:34] <usr13> donnyw: Ctrl-F2
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Cool Leet Interface
[18:34] <Geine> so what is the work-around this?
[18:34] <lazerman> is it possible to use some other drivers besides Nvidia? for the card GF420go?
[18:34] <pcfreak30> does anyone have any ideas to get xubuntu to boot up. grub has no errors
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Geine:  do the work with root user permisisons..
[18:34] <djole_nisam_ja> where I can download Woody packages
[18:34] <fryguy> Geine: i just told you, make your uid match, or just become root
[18:34] <r3dux> I read that uae is rubbish on linux and that e-uae is closer to the dogs nadgers, if that's of use to anyone..
[18:34] <JusticeZero> Having trouble getting Grub back after a failed Windows re-install. ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7189180#post7189180
[18:35] <usr13> and then run fdisk /dev/hda  #where hda is the HD in question.  And then p  for print partitions  and   d for delete
[18:35] <r3dux> JusticeZero - this is a nice easy fix
[18:35] <usr13> donnyw: and then run fdisk /dev/hda  #where hda is the HD in question.  And then p  for print partitions  and   d for delete
[18:35] <usr13> donnyw: Delete all but the one MS Windows partition at the front of the drive
[18:35] <r3dux> JusticeZero - boot into linux, and read this http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/ ;)
[18:36] <JusticeZero> is it? Grub tells me it can't mount the drive.
[18:36] <r3dux> JusticeZero, it's an easy fix, promise - have a read.
[18:36] <djole_nisam_ja> where I can download Woody packages
[18:36] <usr13> donnyw: w   to write   x to quit  (h for help)
[18:37] <usr13> nnnnqq
[18:37] <donnyw> usr13: Thanks. It looks like I can do it using the GUI right now
[18:37] <lorenzo_> hi, i cant get Jack to work for the life of me. Followed tutorials, read stuff all around the forums. I just dont get it. I'd like to use it with Ardour and Kluppe. Anyone can help? I am trying to use an M AUdio fast track pro sound card
[18:37] <r3dux> Anyone know what {} means in bash scripting?
[18:37] <JusticeZero> Hmm.. ok, that didn't give me errors. I'll see if it runs.
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> depends on where its used. r3
[18:37] <anodesni> I have a solution, just make a script with "DISPLAY=:0.1 app" where app is e.g. "tvtime"
[18:37] <sponzor> how to change video .avi to wave? or someting that i can record to cd like audio cd :P
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  give an example?  check the advanced-bash-scripting guide also.
[18:38] <donnyw> usr13: Would you advise deleting the swap partition as well?
[18:38] <fryguy> r3dux: usually in reference to find or xargs, it refers to the current value of the argument that the corresponding command is processing
[18:38] <usser> r3dux, in what context? can you paste the line?
[18:38] <r3dux> Dr_Willis, Usually at the end of a line of code working on a bunch of files one at a time - example coming 1sec
[18:38] <usr13> donnyw: That is best. Use the GUI.
[18:38] <xukun> I asked this before but still no fix. I have no startup sound. I have no sound when playing audio files like flac.  what I have is ac3 sound when playing videos files. I need some kind of trouble shooting of why I don't sound.
[18:38] <usr13> donnyw: Yes
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  advanced-bash-scripting guide is a MUST read/print/read/keep a copy in the Loo for rereading...
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> :P
[18:38] <phamin> Hi evryone.
[18:39] <r3dux> Dr_Willis, example:
[18:39] <donnyw> usr13: Thanks a ton
[18:39] <r3dux> find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -name '*.js' ! -name '*.tar' ! -name '*.tar.gz' -execdir 7zr a -si -mx9 $1.7z {} \;
[18:39]  * usser hehe loo
[18:39] <cdavis> I have my home director encrypted and decrypted when I log in. Can I set /var/www to be the same way?
[18:39] <fryguy> r3dux: see my comment to you above, i already answered
[18:39] <usr13> donnyw: You're welcome almost as much.
[18:39] <hmw> xukun: maybe your movie player is using a different sound facility. check system / preferences / sound
[18:39] <r3dux> Dr_Willis, This compresses all files of a given type in a directory
[18:39] <usser> r3dux, in find {} means the name of the file that was found
[18:39] <burntresistor> i just installed the config manager for compiz  but it wont let me change settings to cube is the other selections extra and ubuntu only comes with wobbly windows
[18:39] <Linuz2009> Can anyone tell me what's a keyring?
[18:39] <fryguy> cdavis: you probably shouldn't have arbitrary locations on the filesystsem get encrypted/unencrypted when you log in/out
[18:39] <Linuz2009> it kept popping up whenever I start my computer.
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  its a password keeper utility.
[18:40] <usr13> Linuz2009: Just tell it a name and it will set you up.
[18:40] <fryguy> Linuz2009: a mechanism for storing passwords, that is itself password protected (overly simplified explanation)
[18:40] <usser> r3dux, ie find . -name hello.txt -exec rm {} \; {} will be substituted with hello.txt
[18:40] <r3dux> usser, ahhh... I didn't write that one liner - I wrote a bash script to do it. See: http://r3dux.org/?p=439#comments
[18:40] <cdavis> Linuz2009: In the cryptography sense, a keyring stores known encryption keys (and in some cases, passwords).
[18:40] <Linuz2009> then why it kept popping up whenever I reboot my computer?
[18:40] <djole_nisam_ja> where I can download Woody packages
[18:40]  * KiRiLoS is away: AFK
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  because it pops up when an app accesses your stored 'passwords' you give it the master password to allow the others to access.
[18:41] <fryguy> Linuz2009: because your computer is accessing a resource that requires your identify (ssh mount or something), and so you are getting prompted to unlock the keyring so that it can be used
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  i just use my login password for it.
[18:41] <r3dux> Woody ended up being called Dapper, didn't it?
[18:41] <cdavis> fryguy: I keep some data in a mediawiki on my laptop which I want to be protected as well as my documents. How can I safely do this?
[18:41] <r3dux> Or was it the one before dapper?
[18:41] <fryguy> cdavis: put it in your homedir
[18:41] <xukun> hmw, I use xbmc which uses audo pasthrough to my receiver. In this progr. I can also play sound but no audio sound.
[18:41] <fryguy> cdavis: and then encrypt the homedir
[18:41] <Linuz2009> Well it said that it didn't assign any password
[18:41] <sponzor> how to change video .avi to wave? or someting that i can record to cd like audio cd :P
[18:42] <Linuz2009> and its asking the default password.
[18:42] <gartral_> game.. return to castle (brain_blank..)
[18:42] <cdavis> fryguy: OK
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> sponzor:  winff, avidmux, mencoder, ffmpeg.
[18:42] <r3dux> sponzor, CD to mp3 - install LAME and use GRiP
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> oops avidemux.
[18:42] <r3dux> (or at least that's what I use)
[18:42] <eseven73> what's the command to inject something into syslog? like for example on webmin you can do a command at the end of a backup and I want it to add a entry in syslog saying something like "backup of /home completed on May 2nd 2009 10:16AM"
[18:42] <r3dux> DVD -> CD -> Use Handbrake
[18:42] <phamin> How can I find some information in text file using "grep"? for example I am looking for "John Martin" information in "info.txt" file. (name and family is not case sensitive also format is not important:martin john/john mart/...)
[18:42] <usser> gartral_, returnt to castle wolfensttein
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> r3dux:  i think he wants the audio track from an avi.
[18:43] <Linuz2009> how can I disable my keyring?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> phamin:  grep PATTERN filename
[18:43] <r3dux> phamin, cat info.txt | grep "John Martin"
[18:43] <krphop> phamin: grep $filename -i "John Martin"
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> no cat needed. :P
[18:43] <Linuz2009> I didn't assign any password to unlock it.
[18:43] <fryguy> krphop: you have it backwards
[18:43] <gartral_> usser: thank you, ill get the extra T out :P
[18:43] <r3dux> lol Dr_Willis - I know what works ;)
[18:43] <krphop> lol, fact, i do
[18:43] <usser> phamin, cat file | grep -i "martin"
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> grep file -i 'patern'
[18:44] <r3dux> ftw
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> grep | awk | sed  :)
[18:44] <sponzor> ok i installed ffmpeg how to change file.avi to only audio? :/ :P i checked man but notting for me :P
[18:44] <usser> phamin, or if there's more martins some of which are not johns cat file | grep -i "martin" | grep -i "john"
[18:44]  * r3dux considers another cup of black tea and a cigarette so strongly he decides to do both...
[18:44] <fryguy> usser: why are you grepping 2x ?
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> sponzor:  you have not 'checked' the ffmpeg docs in just 20 sec.. check its homepage/forums for specific examples.. or try the other tools i mentioned.
[18:45] <hmw> totem says "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in". I already installed w32codecs and libdvdcss2, whats wrong?
[18:45] <Yanick_> Hi, I try to mount a USB ext HD that was previously mounted by a Windows XP OS, but Ubuntu refuses to mount it. I went into WIndows and did a "Safely remove hardware" but it still won't mount
[18:45] <Yanick_> any idea?
[18:45] <sponzor> ok :P
[18:45] <fryguy> hmw: w32 and libdvdcss aren't gstreamer
[18:45] <glitsj16> eseven73: logger -s "backup of /home completed on May 2nd 2009 10:16AM"
[18:45] <phamin> Dr_Willis: thanks but I am also looking for "Martin jhon" and also "mart Jhon"
[18:45] <Linuz2009> how can I disable keyring?
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> phamin:  grep has a option to ignore case.
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> phamin:  check its man pages
[18:45] <hmw> fryguy: so how do i install a general dvd codec? and why did it work on the other machine? i am confused
[18:45] <usser> fryguy, cause format might be different, and cat file | grep -i "john martin" will exclude "martin, john" "john,martin"
[18:45] <mercutio22> Pulseaudio is chopping my audio. http://paste.ubuntu.com/162997/ > is this related??
[18:45] <psywiped> hmv just get vlc
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> phamin:  and grep supports regular expressions that can match about anything You can imagine. :)
[18:46] <hmw> nah... i want it right
[18:46] <puremichael> hi. is it possible to use a deb-source without a public key for apt-secure? currently i fail downloading the public key for sun/virtualbox
[18:46] <fryguy> usser: so? there's other ways to solve that problem than grepping 2x, and he didn't ask about alternative formats
[18:46] <eseven73> glitsj16, that works thanks :D
[18:46] <vadim-nsk> nsyc
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> grep file john | grep martin
[18:46] <Dr_Willis>  perhaps
[18:46] <phamin> I don't no how to use regexp
[18:46] <Talis> !list
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> phamin:  its worth learning.
[18:46] <psywiped> hmv you have to enable the restricted reposertories
[18:46] <usser> fryguy, he did in fact say that format of the file varies. what other ways easier than this? do tell.
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> Talis:  wht do you expect from a list?
[18:47] <glitsj16> eseven73: welcome, there are some other switches you can use, man logger has more detailed stuff
[18:47] <eseven73> ok
[18:47] <fryguy> usser: egrep with a regex would be far simpler and faster
[18:47] <psywiped> then search in the add remove programs hmv
[18:47] <sdfasdfasdf> hello can i create a live usb of ubuntu 9.04 from fedora?
[18:47] <gartral> !info returnt to castle wolfensttein
[18:47] <Linuz2009> how can I unlock the access to my keyring
[18:47] <usser> fryguy, "hey this can be solved by regular expressions". and now you have two problems :)
[18:47] <gartral> !info return to castle wolfenstein
[18:48] <psywiped> Linuz2009, by typing your password
[18:48] <mercutio22> sound in rhythmbox is choppy, here is what I get when launching it: Rhythmbox: could not connect to socket
[18:48] <fryguy> usser: that quote was taken out of context, and certainly isn't applicable here
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> sdfasdfasdf: burn the MD5 checked ISO with whatever burning app youu use
[18:48] <Linuz2009> I don't know the password.
[18:48] <elexodus> Hey all, I just installed a nice new 1TB drive to comnpanion my RAID Array on my home server... Problem is, I can't find the device tomount in Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[18:48] <Linuz2009> it assigned as a default
[18:48] <fryguy> usser: you should look up the story behind that quote before just repeating it in random places
[18:48] <usser> fryguy, no but seriously why use regexp when grep does just fine
[18:48] <sdfasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, huh?
[18:48] <psywiped> Linuz2009, its the one you log in with
[18:48] <tdizzy> How would I go about creating a DVD with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu on it?
[18:48] <sdfasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, dont want to wast... use a cd with ubuntu
[18:48] <Linuz2009> It doesn't work with my admin password
[18:48] <Armageddon> hello all, how do i reinstall the ati/amd fglrx package ?
[18:48] <arktvrvs> what are the proper steps to take to do connection sharing in NetworkManager?
[18:48] <sdfasdfasdf> just want to install it in a usb stick i have and try it from there
[18:48] <Linuz2009> it had no key and its prompting to have one
[18:49] <usser> fryguy, i have nothing against regular expressions, its just that this case doesnt call for it
[18:49] <Varanger> hi!
[18:49] <psywiped> Linuz2009, its the origanal one you log in with
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> !usb | sdfasdfasdf
[18:49] <fryguy> usser: because my solution is faster, and it's helpful to get into good habits, because eventually you are going to grep files that are hundreds of megabytes big, and so you are going to care about the performance characteristics in that case.  Also it's easier to do redirection from a single pipe than from a pair of pipes
[18:49] <gartral> whats the package name for this game? return-to-castle-wolfenstein
[18:49] <Linuz2009> what you mean by the original?
[18:49] <e1luca> @luise, @usr13: it's "lspci |grep ireless" or "lspci |grep wireless"?
[18:49] <jonsparks> wow.
[18:49] <psywiped> gartral, just go search on the web for it
[18:49] <Linuz2009> psywiped: what you mean by the original?
[18:50] <donnie>    q
[18:50] <Varanger> I recently installed Jaunty... and I am having problems installing the propietary drivers for my ATI card (X1300). I did the usual way to installing them... and it says it don't have any propietary driver for my machine!!!
[18:50] <gartral> in repos... the package managers wont find it
[18:50] <usser> fryguy, yea you're right.
[18:50] <psywiped> Linuz2009, the first password you had for login if you change your password that one stays the same
[18:50] <Armageddon> how do i reinstall the ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver ?
[18:50] <Linuz2009> psywiped: you mean my former account password
[18:50] <psywiped> Linuz2009, yesw
[18:50] <Linuz2009> I remember editing my password.
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> gartral:  im not sure it is in the repos..
[18:50] <elexodus> Hey all, I just installed a nice new 1TB drive to comnpanion my RAID Array on my home server... Problem is, I can't find the device tomount in Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> !games | gartral
[18:50] <tdizzy> How would I go about creating a DVD with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu on it?
[18:51] <fryguy> elexodus: /dev/sdb most likely
[18:51] <kovacsleeve> When you are using Gparted to shrink a primary windows partition, is the "peach" part the section with data?
[18:51] <yowshi> anyone here maybe able to help me get cheese working with my webcam?
[18:51] <Linuz2009> psywiped: then why it said it had no key? Is it because I need to type in the former password?
[18:51] <psywiped> Linuz2009, your keyring password doesnt change when you change your user password
[18:51] <usser> fryguy, look at his question though. phamin,"How can I find some information in text file using "grep"...
[18:51] <sdfasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, good but i dont have 8.10 installed, im from fedora 10 can i install the app here and create it from this pc?
[18:51] <fryguy> usser: yes, and?
[18:51] <elexodus> fryguy: yeah, just figured that out. How do I add it to the fstab?
[18:51] <RedSocrates> Firefox is unbearably slow for me in Jaunty.  Anyone else experience this or know of a solution (or have a nice alternative browser recommendation)?
[18:51] <Varanger> Armageddon: How did you install them in the fist place?
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> Examples of Using Grep ---> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_04_02.html
[18:52] <dye_BC> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:52] <fryguy> elexodus: fstab is located in /etc/fstab, and there's a manpage for it highlighting the syntax (or just use the existing entries as a baseline)
[18:52] <dye_BC> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
[18:52] <Linuz2009> psywiped: then how can I disable it so it won't start popping up when I reboot
[18:52] <dye_BC> ccccccccccccccccc
[18:52] <dye_BC> dddddddddddddd
[18:52] <dye_BC> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:52] <dye_BC> fffffffffffffffff
[18:52] <dye_BC> ggggggggggggggggggg
[18:52] <FloodBot2> dye_BC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:52] <dye_BC> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:52] <dye_BC> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[18:52] <dye_BC> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[18:52] <dye_BC> lllllllllllllllllll
[18:52] <jonsparks> STOP SPAMMING
[18:52] <psywiped> Linuz2009, got no idea and thats bad to do anyways
[18:52] <arktvrvs> what are the proper steps to take to do connection sharing in NetworkManager?
[18:53] <arktvrvs> anyone?
[18:53] <kovacsleeve> When using gparted to shrink a primary windows partition, should I add free space following the partition?
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[18:53] <psywiped> kovacsleeve, yea thats the accepted way to do it
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> kovacsleeve:  unless you need it at the front.. yes.. i normally put  it at the rear
[18:53] <arktvrvs> i know about using iptables
[18:53] <mercutio22> I read once of an alternative program to access MSN instead of aMSN that supports webcam. Can someone remind me?
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> attym, pidgin
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> !im
[18:54] <deany> kopete?
[18:54] <butch> hi there!
[18:54] <elexodus> fryguy: not sure what to edit in the fstab. Here's a pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1410489
[18:54] <psywiped> kovacsleeve, windows tends to want the first partition of the first HDD
[18:54] <deany> pidgin dont do webcam
[18:54]  * Dr_Willis dont do msn so try them out..
[18:54] <kovacsleeve> psywiped: Gotcha, and is the "peach" part the area with data on it?
[18:54] <sdfasdfasdf> can i create a live usb of ubuntu 9.04 from a linux distro such as fedora?
[18:54] <psywiped> kovacsleeve, yea
[18:54] <mercutio22> Dr_Willis> pidgin does not support webcam in MSN
[18:54] <fryguy> elexodus: create a mountpoint for the new device, /dev/sdb <yourmountpointhere> filesystemhere defaults 0 0
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> sdfasdfasdf:  you can use 'unetbootin' and an iso file to do that from most any linux disrto.
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> mercutio22:  file a bug report. :P
[18:55] <Lothen> Someone took my nickname!
[18:55] <Lothen> grrr
[18:55] <mercutio22> deany> does Kopete suport webcam?
[18:55] <sdfasdfasdf> Dr_Willis, ahh great
[18:55] <deany> not tried it but apparently does
[18:55] <psywiped> lotharn, they cant if you regerster it
[18:55] <fryguy> Lothen: so use nickservs ghost service to get it back
[18:55] <Armageddon> Varanger: i didnt, i just installed ubuntu, but everytime i install it i reinstall the driver
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> sdfasdfasdf:  unetbootin even works in windows.. (shudder!)
[18:55] <mercutio22> Dr_Willis> There are multiple ancient bug reports on that
[18:55] <Janne38> Can someone help me? I hawe resolution problem.
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> I perfer IRC - over any of the IM stuff.
[18:56] <Janne38> Screen is samler than picture.
[18:56] <Balrog_> xubuntu
[18:56] <Balrog_> sorry
[18:56] <psywiped> Dr_Willis, im glad that it does makes it easer for windows users to come over to the light
[18:56] <Lothen> Alright! I went in and edited my kernel boot line and set it to vga=773. It made the text smaller in the text console and it looks great! Thanks guys! Now one of you said this is temporary? What can I do to make it more permanent?
[18:56] <fryguy> Janne38: you can edit your resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, also xrandr
[18:56] <butch> I can't seem to figure out if Atom N270 is x86 or x86-64 or whatever. Is this documented?
[18:56] <Varanger> Armageddon: it is installing the open driver (radeon), not the propietary ones
[18:56] <butch> I mean the download page just assumes people is aware of their hardware's details :)
[18:56] <Armageddon> Varanger: i have the raedon
[18:57] <mercutio22> Lothen> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:57] <kovacsleeve> How much space should I allocate to an Ubuntu install?
[18:57] <fryguy> kovacsleeve: 5gb or so
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> butch:  i think its 64 bit. at least i think ive booted live-cd-64bits on it befor.
[18:57] <mercutio22> Lothen> that will make it permanet
[18:57] <Linuz2009> is klean sweeper safe to use?
[18:57] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[18:57] <yowshi> ok everything unjammed. i need some help gewtting cheese to work with my camera
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> butch:  but i noticed the UNR image was 32bit.. so im not sure now.
[18:57] <butch> Thanks DR_Willis ! I'm d/l 64bit and giving it a try
[18:57] <Linuz2009> does anyone use klean sweeper?
[18:58] <Linuz2009> does it harm your computer?
[18:58] <Lothen> How do I edit that?
[18:58] <fryguy> Lothen: add that parameter in /boot/grub.conf
[18:58] <tdizzy> How would I go about creating a DVD with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu on it?
[18:58] <Janne38> Well the problem is that when i use sudo kate xorg.conf i get a emty screen. The kdesu is not working.
[18:58] <lastman> I m still working on a 6 years old notebook with 512 ram and Ubuntu 9.04 gives me the feeling that I ve got a new fast notebook :-) Best working distro ever
[18:58] <Linuz2009> It gave me a warning about be careful deleting files
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> butch:  i got all teh releases on torrents the other day.. at blinding speeds
[18:59] <vish> tdizzy: burn an iso directly to the DVD
[18:59] <psywiped> vish, that woulnt work
[18:59] <tdizzy> vish, I meant a collection of all three.
[18:59] <fryguy> vish:  he wants to put all 3 on the disc at once, which will necessitate the use of a bootloader on the disc, which is outside of the scope of this chan
[18:59] <Linuz2009> it scan my drive and select files that's broken and there's appear to be alot of them and I'm not sure if its okay to delete right from the start.
[18:59] <vish> OK
[18:59] <tdizzy> fryguy, Where should I ask about something like that?
[18:59] <psywiped> hehe i want to do the same thing with a usb drive
[18:59] <Lothen> I am confused
[18:59] <Yanick_> I can't mount my external USB HD without going through sudo, how can I enter the correct line in fstab to do that?
[19:00] <Balrog_> hi
[19:00] <fryguy> tdizzy: no idea.  you realize that all 3 distros are compatible with each other and you can switch back and forth between them when one is installed?  There's no real need to have all of them available on a single disc
[19:00] <Linuz2009> is cleaning my computer disk safe?
[19:00] <Linuz2009> using klean sweep
[19:00] <Balrog_> I upgraded from intrepid to jaunty on a Compaq Armada 500MHz P3 system
[19:00] <psywiped> !fstab > Yanick_
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  clarify what you mean by clean..
[19:00] <Balrog_> now it won't boot with kernel 2.6.28
[19:00] <Balrog_> 2.6.27 boots ok. What's going on?
[19:01] <Balrog_> and what should I do?
[19:01] <tdizzy> fryguy, Yeah I know. I just wanted to know how to do this, so that I might be able to add even more than those three.
[19:01] <fryguy> Balrog_: can you be a bit more specific about "won't boot"
[19:01] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: cleaning broken files/ empty files...etc
[19:01] <Balrog_> it seems to crash on certain drivers
[19:01] <butch> Dr_Willis I see... I've been at Wikipedia and reading some forum posts and I am not sure... I thought wikipedia would say. Going to try the torrent/hard way ;)
[19:01] <Lothen> Someone told me to edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and another told me to add that parameter (vga=773?) in /boot/grub.conf  I do not know how to do either. Do I need to do both? First off, how do I get to these spots? heh
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  you refering to a windows utility to clean out cruft from windows drives?
[19:01] <butch> Dr_Willis thanks a lot!
[19:01] <fryguy> tdizzy: i'd recommend looking around on google for how to put a bootloader onto a CD/DVD.  I don't know of any solutions off the top of my head
[19:02] <fryguy> tdizzy: you are likely going to run into a lot of pointless issues trying to do this though
[19:02] <tdizzy> fryguy, Thanks for your help.
[19:02] <fryguy> tdizzy: since you can't really have multiple filesystems on the same DVD
[19:02] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: No, its a linux distribute program called Klean Sweeper.
[19:02] <psywiped> tdizzy, you realy are better just having seprate discs
[19:03] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: it helps me to free up space in my computer disk.
[19:03] <RedSocrates> Does anyone else have really bad speed problems with Firefox in Jaunty?
[19:03] <vish> tdizzy: I recommend you look at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> !find sweep
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> !info kleansweep
[19:03] <Balrog_> any ideas? Is my system too old for 2.6.28?
[19:03] <Lothen> Someone told me to edit /boot/grub/menu.1st and another told me to add that parameter (vga=773?) in /boot/grub.conf  I do not know how to do either. Do I need to do both? First off, how do I get to these spots? heh
[19:03] <Varanger> Armageddon: I prefer the propietary one, I'll write in the forum
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  last i tried such a tool under linux.. it dident find much :)
[19:04] <fryguy> Balrog_: you need to be more specific before people are going to be able to offer you meaningful advice
[19:04] <Armageddon> Varanger: i found the command, thanks anyway :)
[19:04] <Linuz2009> well the program found thousands.
[19:04] <vish> tdizzy: Please verify that it is the correct one b4 downloading
[19:04] <hmw> Lothen: note, that it is menu.lst (like MENU.LST, "list")
[19:04] <kovacsleeve> Does resizing a partition normally take quite a while?
[19:04] <fryguy> Balrog_: "won't boot" and "seems to crash" are too vague for anyone to give a meaningful suggestions
[19:04] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: so after you use it does it harm your computer?
[19:04] <pcfreak30> could someone help me out with my boot issue
[19:04] <pcfreak30> http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:04] <zaccour> is UNR faster than regular Ubuntu?
[19:04] <Balrog_> it seems to hang loading drivers. Not sure how to get more specific info :/
[19:04] <pcfreak30> thats dmesg dump
[19:04] <kenyon> Linuz2009: looks like that tool would be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
[19:04] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: maybe it'll delete a imporant fiel
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  no idea.. if you misscleaned and removed system critical files.. it could. :)
[19:04] <fryguy> kovacsleeve: depends on where on the disc you are remounting.  I've had resizes take anywhere from 3 seconds to 3 days
[19:04] <tdizzy> vish, Isn't the DVD release just like the standard CD, but with more languages?
[19:04] <Yanick_> psywiped: that didn't help at all and didn't told me what I already know
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  if you run it as a user.. it will only affect user files
[19:04] <psywiped> hmv menu.lst is not the same file as MENU.LST or Menu.lst
[19:05] <hmw> Lothen: the parameter vga=733 (better you use vga=0x305) it to be placed in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:05] <RedSocrates> hmw: 773, not 733
[19:05] <kovacsleeve> fryguy: Shrinking 221.65 GB to 156.60 GB
[19:05] <Yanick_> psywiped: when I add "user" or "users" it tells me that I cannot use FUSE without recompiling it to support this feature...
[19:05] <Yanick_> whatever that means
[19:05] <zaccour> Is Ubuntu Netbook Remix faster than regular Ubuntu?
[19:05] <vish> I really dont know...but I think that this one has all three de's in it
[19:05] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: Okay, then how can I use it so it won't damage the system?
[19:05] <hmw> RedSocrates: btw. its better to use the hex notation, because vga=ask would show you the hex numbers
[19:05] <fryguy> zaccour: no
[19:05] <Balrog_> it looks like when it's "Loading Hardware Drivers" it crashes
[19:05] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I want to find all errors and delete them.
[19:05] <RedSocrates> hmw: I see.  Thanks for that
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009: errors? what errors?
[19:06] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: but there's too much files.
[19:06] <Yanick_> psywiped: the point is that I cannot mount my external hard drive without a sudo command, and adding "user" doesn't work
[19:06] <Lothen> I am confused. 0x305 or 773?
[19:06] <vish> tdizzy: this one's of a bigger size than the other 'extra language' dvd's.
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  find out whats taking up so much space.. and delete stuff you dont need. theres the apt cache directory that proberly has a few 100mb in it.
[19:06] <keith1> Hi everyone, my hard-drive keeps turning on and off! I did a google and it said to type some hdparam -B 254 or something like that
[19:06] <psywiped> Yanick_, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:06] <hmw> Lothen: in fact, both work. Either decimal: vga=773 or hexadecimal vga=0x305, both do the same
[19:06] <pcfreak30> oh can someone see if my kernalis being mean, http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:07] <Yanick_> psywiped: I downloaded 9.04, but in the about it says 8.04... O_o
[19:07] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I didn't install much, mostly its system files.
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> heh - taking 75mb to just install kleansweep
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  how big a HD ya got anyway?
[19:07] <Lothen> I do not know how to place things in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:07] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: what you mean?
[19:07] <Lothen> How do I edit it? Where do I find it?
[19:07] <fryguy> keith1: hdparm is used to tune settings of hard drives, such as whether it spins down on idle or not
[19:07] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: my computer's screen?
[19:07] <wizardslovak> hello
[19:07] <wizardslovak> what is the command to install flash player?
[19:08] <wizardslovak> apt-get install flash?
[19:08] <psywiped> !pastebin
[19:08] <Balrog_> looks like it might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346889
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  your hard drive you installed to....  how much space did you give to ubuntu?
[19:08] <fryguy> Lothen: it's a file on the system located in the location that you specified
[19:08] <pcfreak30> could someone examine this dmesg dump. http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:08] <psywiped> Yanick_, put the errors your geting there
[19:08] <fryguy> wizardslovak: i think the package is called flash-player.  I use a manually installed version from adobe, so I d unno
[19:08] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I think all of it, my window OS is replaced and deleted
[19:08] <Lothen> Ohhh! I thought I was being given a long command to enter into the commandline as opposed to a path *slaps head*
[19:08] <Balrog_> same hardware, similar problem
[19:08] <keith1> thanks fryguy, you got any suggestions for me? When i typed the command, it just disappeared. No errors or anything. But it still spinning down....just did it right now! I heard it'll ruin my hard-drive eventually (or at least shorten its life)
[19:08] <hmw> Lothen: 1) open a terminal 2) type: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst 3) find the first line with kernel=...ro splash quiet ... 4) change "splash quiet" to "vga=0x305"
, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  and how large is this hard drive? I an get a normal Ubuntu install on a 4gb flash drive...
[19:08] <hmw> Lothen: oops
[19:09] <Yanick_> psywiped: by "there" what do you mean?
[19:09] <hmw> Lothen: 2) type sudo nano ...
[19:09] <Lothen> Thanks!
[19:09] <psywiped> !pastebin | Yanick_
[19:09] <fryguy> keith1: then you didn't type the right command, I'd go and find the correct command.  As for reducing the life span of the hard drive, it's not going ot make a meaningful impact on the MTBF of the drive so I wouldn't worry about it
[19:09] <Ubuntu111111> Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to shred my log files since they are starting to take up a lot of room. Is there anyone that is able to help me? I'm pretty new to Ubuntu so any help would be appreciated.
[19:09] <wizardslovak> alexxoid_: thank you
[19:09] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: my filesystem said I had 65.7 GB
[19:09] <blake_> In rhythmbox, is it possible to change the column order?  I want Location in front of Track Name
[19:09] <keith1> Okay thank you!
[19:10] <pcfreak30> can anyone look at my dmesg dump
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  so what yave you installed thats taking up 50+gb of space?
[19:10] <psywiped> !pastebin > pcfreak30
[19:10] <zorganix> not all columns. only some of them. I noticed
[19:10] <drbobb> hey how do I get rid of the maximus, if I decide I want to use the regular gnome desktop and not the netbook interface??
[19:10] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I don't know.
[19:10] <arktvrvs> im trying to do some internet connection sharing but the device im attempting to connect say the cables arent hooked up (which they are and ive verified that they work) i think the carrier signal is not present and i have no idea why. ive done ifconfig, iptables, added route, and installed dnsmasq
[19:10] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: log files are located in /var/log, after a period of time a logfile gets copied and gziped for archiving, and a new one gets created, so you can move/archive any .gz file in there and recover space (although it shouldn't be that much space, since they are just compressed text files)
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  you may want to look/explore how your drives are set up then.. instead of running sweeping progrms
[19:11] <hmw> pcfreak30: what kind of problem do you have?
[19:11] <Ghoti> arktvrvs: are you connecting two computers to each other directly?  If so, are you using a crossover cable?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  start with 'df -h' output
[19:11] <elexodus> fryguy:
[19:11] <elexodus> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[19:11] <elexodus>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:11] <elexodus>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[19:11] <elexodus>        dmesg | tail  or so
[19:11] <FloodBot2> elexodus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> ilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda5             9.2G  4.7G  4.1G  54% /
[19:11] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: where?
[19:11] <hmw> Ghoti: note, with gigabit ethernet adapters, you dont need xover cables anymore
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  at the command line
[19:11] <fryguy> elexodus: you need to specify a partition on sdb, use fdisk to see a list
[19:12] <arktvrvs> Ive used this exact same cable for the exact same purpose in the exact same way with succes in slackware
[19:12] <Ghoti> hmw: My motherboard's GbE port would disagree, but by and large, you are correct.
[19:12] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: Thanks for the response. I'm created a GUI launcher on my desktop for the shred command. I tried dragging the log files into the launcher, and even into the trash can, but it won't let me delete them. Why is this?
[19:12] <Jack8899> fryguy: I tried to install wicd with the command sudo apt-get install wicd. But it didnt work. Now I installed network manager, which removed network management. But it didnt install the network manager... now i dont have any network managing software installed anymore. What do i do now?
[19:12] <hmw> Ghoti: ic.
[19:12] <krphop> anyone run into any big issues using encrypted FS with LVM on ubuntu?
[19:12] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: because they are system files, and you need to be root to manipulate them
[19:12] <Yanick_> psywiped: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/163035/
[19:12] <Lothen> !sudo
[19:12] <Dr_Willis>  You need a GBe on both ends of the  thing I thought.
[19:13] <elexodus> fryguy: Unable to open /dev/sdb
[19:13] <jtaji> krphop: been using it with no issues for over a year
[19:13] <fryguy> Jack8899: wicd is at wicd.sourceforge.net and there's an entire section for ubuntu right on the front page...
[19:13] <arktvrvs> this is a mere 100mbit ethernet setup
[19:13] <pcfreak30> http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:13] <Ghoti> Dr_Willis: most GbE adapters can step down to 100Mb if needed
[19:13] <hmw> Dr_Willis: both adapters need to sense the missing switch, so basically having 2 GbE is the thing you want
[19:13] <Geine> hi all, how to mount ext filesystme for read/write from live-cd?
[19:13] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: okay, I see  my disk space and files inside it
[19:13] <fryguy> elexodus: so then find the right node for the device
[19:13] <krphop> jtaji: did you do a encrypted disk, with LVM inside, or LVM with encrypted logical volumes?
[19:13] <Lusule> hi there, did Ubuntu switch from grub to lilo in the latest upgrade?  aptitude dist-upgrade is trying to install it.
[19:14] <dkulchenko> Quick "Gnome Do" question. I've installed the Window Manager Plugin, which closes windows, but how can i close the current Firefox tab with Gnome Do? Is there a plugin for that?
[19:14] <Ghoti> Lusule: known bug; check the release notes
[19:14] <fryguy> Geine: the permissions for ext flie systems are contained in the filesystem itself, you'll ned to be a user that has a matching uid or gid, or manipulate the files as root (I told you this like a half hour ago)
[19:14] <jtaji> krphop: encrypted disk, lvm inside
[19:14] <hmw> Geine: as usual, i hope you dont want to mount the CD-ROM as RW *g* - if it is an ext3, mount /dev/whatever /mnt should do
[19:14] <dazjorz> Is it possible to modify UDF iso's using Ubuntu? I've done some searching but still can't figure it out... I'm using Karmic
[19:14] <krphop> jtaji: i'm just concerned with how long it will take to fill my disk with random data, 500GB, how large is your disk?
[19:14] <fryguy> dkulchenko: why not just hit ctrl-w?
[19:14] <Lusule> Ghoti: thanks
[19:14] <famelix__> ola
[19:14] <famelix__> hola
[19:14] <dkulchenko> fryguy: well, you can close a window with alt-f4, but it's cooler with gnome do. :D
[19:14] <twobitsp1ite> good morning/etc
[19:14] <Ghoti> Lusule: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Upgrades%20from%20Ubuntu%208.10%20may%20have%20lilo%20installed
[19:15] <famelix__> como estan
[19:15] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: after I found out what taking up most of my disk space. then how can I free up space?
[19:15] <Geine> fryguy, can you till me what command I have to use?
[19:15] <fryguy> dkulchenko: alt-f4 closes the application, ctrl-w closes the tab
[19:15] <fryguy> Geine: 'mount'
[19:15] <psywiped> Yanick_, try /media/Data	ntfs-3g	force,notime	0	0 in your fstab
[19:15] <dkulchenko> fryguy: k, thx
[19:15] <Geine> fryguy, I try but mount givne an error
[19:15] <jtaji> krphop: just 160GB in a thinkpad
[19:15] <fryguy> Geine: what error
[19:15] <Geine> what an option I have to provide to moutn
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  delete the files/stuff you dont need.. IF you did a new install and are llready taking up 50+GB of space.. you got somthing really messed up..  This system is only using 6GB and ive installed quite a bit.
[19:15] <krphop> jtaji: how long did it take to fill that with random data?
[19:15] <zach__> hi
[19:15] <hmw> geine: depends on the file system. I suppose, you are trying to mount a windows partition?
[19:16] <LordKenTheGreat> Does ecryptfs support the usage of PKCS11 security tokens?
[19:16] <fryguy> hmw: he's mounting ext
[19:16] <jtaji> krphop: I don't recall the process taking long at all
[19:16] <LordKenTheGreat> I can't figure out how to make it work.
[19:16] <hmw> fryguy: then an error is a bad sign, isnt it?
[19:16] <Geine> fryguy, I am trying to mount it as read/write I have the passwods
[19:16] <Ghoti> Dr_Willis: 6GB? My install's only using 3.6
[19:16] <Geine> but how to do it using mount
[19:16] <fryguy> hmw: which is why i am asking him what the error is
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> Ghoti:  well his is using close to 60gb
[19:16] <pcfreak30> http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:16] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I don't know what I should delete.
[19:16] <fryguy> Geine: mount <devicenode> <desired_mount_location>
[19:16] <Yanick_> psywiped: there was some noise, but nothing. the drive is not mounted (no error)
[19:16] <Ghoti> Dr_Willis: must be his p^Hvideo collection ;)
[19:16] <Geine> fryguy, I did this
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  im betting you got somthing else going on. and not all of your drive is being used.
[19:17] <Geine> but it's mount it as read only
[19:17] <hmw> Geine: 1) the exact error message would help us, 2) maybe you didnt do it with sudo?
[19:17] <fryguy> Geine: no it's not
[19:17] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: then what should I do?
[19:17] <Geine> it's
[19:17] <krphop> jtaji: thanks
[19:17] <Geine> I mount it with sudo
[19:17] <fryguy> Geine: it's mounted with the same permissions that are on the filesystem
[19:17] <fraroco2>  Hello, I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 3 weeks ago, My sound system was running normaly but today it does not work. how do I fix it?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  or you got a LOT of video files somewhere.. compare 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'df -h' output to see what stuff is mounted where.. and learn the layout of your system
[19:17] <Ubuntu111111> ubottu: I tried gksu nautilus and it opened the file browser into root. I changed over to /var/logs/ and then tried to shred one of the syslog compacted files. It wouldn't do it. I then tried to move it into the trash and it said it can't delete.
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  theres not going to be a magical answer.. You need to figrue out where your space is going.
[19:18] <elexodus> fryguy: Ok, I can see and edit all parts of /dev/sdb in gparted, it is split into 4 partitions. I tried fstab'ing the 4 partitians, but I keep getting the same error.
[19:18] <fryguy> !work | fraroco2
[19:18] <Ghoti> Linuz2009: you can also use du -chs * in verious places to see where all your space is going
[19:18] <psywiped> Ubuntu111111, you are in a protected area you have to go in with root privglages
[19:18] <newguy12345> a
[19:18] <fryguy> elexodus: are there filesystems on the partitions
[19:19] <karim> hey i need help
[19:19] <Ghoti> !ask | karim
[19:19] <karim> i connected a second hard drive to my pc
[19:19] <Ubuntu111111> psywiped: how do I do that? in the link that ubottu gave me, it says I need to start it with gksu
[19:19] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I see three device boot
[19:19] <karim> and i cannot access it
[19:19] <Geine> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda6 /mnt -- work ok with no error but it's mount as read only
[19:19] <fraroco2> Hello, I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 3 weeks ago, My sound system was running normaly but today it does not work. how do I fix it?
[19:19] <Ubuntu111111> which I did.
[19:19] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: is that the problem?
[19:19] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[19:19] <psywiped> Ubuntu111111, sudo gksu
[19:20] <armornick> fraroco2: have you tried checking 'alsamixer' in a terminal?
[19:20] <Ubuntu111111> psywiped: okay, I'll try that. thanks.
[19:20] <fryguy> Geine: ls -l /mnt; id; pastebin the output and i'll explain to you for a fourth time how uids work
[19:20] <Linuz2009> two is linux and one's extended.
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  No idea. I cant see what yoru system is like or laid out.. you may want to pastebn the output of those 2 commands and tell the CHANNEL the url of the pastebin. someone here may be able to help you figure it out.
[19:20] <arktvrvs> Ghoti: the only difference between the formerly-working-setup and my setup now is a different computer with a different onboard ethernet device
[19:20] <zorganix> karim: describe your problem
[19:20] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: alright.
[19:20] <karim> ok
[19:20] <karim> one moment
[19:20] <psywiped> !ask > karim
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  if you got a parttion somewhere according to 'fdisk -l' thats not mounted somewhere (see df -h) then that may be where the space is at)
[19:21] <cybot> Hello! Can someone help to config xorg.conf file?
[19:21] <sahyuhr> afternoon all....
[19:21] <Jack8899> fryguy: I read it, There it says to use that command. but it didnt work
[19:21] <Ghoti> arktvrvs: In the absence of a switch, my first thought is to try an XO cable.
[19:21] <cybot> for nvidia-glx-96
[19:21] <arktvrvs> mmm ok
[19:21] <karim> i have connected a second hard drive (it comes from my ps3 which is linux-based) i must access it to back up my data to my primary hard drive since my ps3 is broken and thus i cant access it from there
[19:21] <hmw> Lothen: does the output of a simple "mount" say RO or is it just, that you cant write with lets say an editor?
[19:21] <fryguy> it does work, you must have skipped something
[19:21] <elexodus> fryguy: Yes, fresh install of Ubuntu 9.04 on 1st partitian.
[19:21] <sahyuhr> anyone have a lexmark printer?? i'm having a problem getting it to work.. i have a lexmark x7350.. apparently there are no drivers from lexmark for linux but i've been reading other people using a diff. driver and getting it to work. i'm not able to get it to work though./
[19:21] <karim> ubuntu doesnt detect my hard drive
[19:21] <fryguy> elexodus: sdb1?
[19:22] <Andrex> ·ubuntu-es
[19:22] <fraroco2> armornick: yeah I tried with alsamixer and pulseaudio
[19:22] <Andrex> #ubuntu-es
[19:22] <elexodus> fryguy: tried that.
[19:22] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: here's the site http://paste.ubuntu.com/163036/
[19:22] <psywiped> !ask > karim
[19:22] <karim> i need to detect it so i may access it
[19:22] <fryguy> elexodus: sudo mkdir /mnt/test; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test; ls -l /mnt/test
[19:22] <zorganix> cybot: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/nvidia
[19:22] <armornick> fraroco2: are the master and PCM sound channels turned all the way up?
[19:22] <psywiped> How do make the volume control change by 1% instead of 4% and how do i make the volume wheel change by 1% instead of 12%
[19:22] <hmw> karim: sudo fdisk -l shows all partitions
[19:22] <Lothen> Alright! I put in vga=0x305. Question! How do I save it though? I do not know how to save my changes nor exit GNU nano for that matter
[19:22] <cybot> i installed the package and nvidia-tools too, but after installation i cannot access xorg file, it says: "VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Device section "Configured Video Device" must have a Driver line.
[19:22] <tuffgong> hi i am having a problem with purging a software
[19:23] <karim> im a noob where do i write that
[19:23] <jeffreyf1> sahyuhr:I have the Lexmark X5070 and a call to Lexmark confirmed that this printer is essentially a paperweight under Linux and there are NO plans to write a driver for the lexmark line at any time in the near future.
[19:23] <cybot> How to do it?
[19:23] <hmw> Lothen: you probably started nano without sudo?
[19:23] <fryguy> Lothen: there is help at the bottom of nano that explains how to save files
[19:23] <Samuel> hello there!
[19:23] <armornick> tuffgong: what's the problem
[19:23] <zorganix> cybot: sorry bad link ... fr but search ubuntu doc nvidia
[19:23] <psywiped> !pastebin > karim
[19:23] <tuffgong> im getting the following error :E: google-gadgets: files list file for package `flex' is missing final newline
[19:23] <hmw> Lothen: you can save it to another file and then sudo cp otherfile realfile
[19:23] <tuffgong> even my Update manager is not working'
[19:23] <fraroco2> armornick: yes
[19:23] <Samuel> cock
[19:23] <Lothen> I started it with sudo. I'll go back in and read the bottom
[19:24] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: found anything unusual?
[19:24] <elexodus> fryguy: Ah ha! Thanks.
[19:24] <hmw> Lothen: its usually CTRL-X, Y, ENTER
[19:24] <armornick> fraroco2: what happens when you try running 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' in a terminal?
[19:24] <fryguy> elexodus: now type mount by itself and find out what the filesystem actually is, and use that in fstab.  and read the manpage for mount
[19:25] <tuffgong> armornick,
[19:25] <pcfreak30> can anyone look at my dmesg dump. http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:25] <hmw> pcfreak30: what should i look for?
[19:25] <everdusty> why cant I load 9-04 into windows ???
[19:25] <fraroco2> armornick: appers "Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[19:25] <fraroco2> " but I can not heart it
[19:25] <Lothen> GNU nano does not say how to save or exit
[19:25] <Lothen> *sighs*
[19:25] <hmw> pcfreak30: gah. too much. what is wrong? aah
[19:25] <fryguy> Lothen: the second command on the first row...
[19:26] <phamin> hi everyone, I try to mount /dev/hda5  to the directory /var with 'noexec' and 'nosuid' opetion do u think this is correct
[19:26] <phamin> mount -o noexec,nouser   /dev/hd5 /var
[19:26] <karim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/163041/ theres my message please help
[19:26] <Ghoti> Lothen: to exit in nano, ^X. To save without exiting, ^O
[19:26] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: found anything yet?
[19:26] <Yanick_> psywiped: I somehow got it to work. I forced mounting (with sudo) then unmounted it and removed the line in the fstab... then plugged the drive and the icon popped up on the desktop
[19:26] <Yanick_> stupid windows
[19:26] <elexodus> fryguy: that worked perfectly.
[19:26] <Ghoti> Lothen: to *really* edit a file, use vi ;)
[19:26] <tuffgong> when i try to do any update, purge, removal... i get this messege: files list file for package `flex' is missing final newline
[19:26] <tuffgong> please help
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  im in and out all day.. taking care of the wife.. dont expect me to be  here all the time
[19:26] <tuffgong> somebody... :(
[19:27] <kovacsleeve> Anyone know when Opera for 9.04 is coming out?
[19:27] <hmw> pcfreak30: what error gave the bios?
[19:27] <fryguy> tuffgong: /etc/apt/  and find the bad sources line and fix it
[19:27] <armornick> fraroco2: hm, sorry but I'm out of ideas :s
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  ask the channel to check it out and see wher the space went
[19:27] <Linuz2009> alright.
[19:27] <fraroco2> armornick: thnks
[19:27] <tuffgong> fryguy, which is a bad source?
[19:27] <phamin> help plz
[19:27] <tuffgong> explain??
[19:27] <fryguy> tuffgong: no idea, i'm not looking at your sources
[19:27] <Linuz2009> can someone help me find out my space.
[19:28] <Patryk_W> Hello :)
[19:28] <phamin> is this correct: mount -o noexec,nouser   /dev/hd5 /var
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  you are using less then 3gb of space on a 50+GB hd.
[19:28] <fryguy> Linuz2009: check out the du command
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda1              72G  2.7G   66G   4% /
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> 72gb parittion.. using 2.7gb...
[19:28] <armornick> tuffgong: try pasting what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list with pastebin
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> oops 66gb partitiion.
[19:28] <hmw> pcfreak30: can you boot into the "recovery" console?
[19:28] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: Okay, so I did sudo gksu, then choose to open nautilus with root, navigated over to /var/logs/ and tried dragging syslog to the shred launcher I have. Still doesn't work. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[19:29] <tuffgong> armornick, ok
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  so whats the ORIGINAL problem then? Your drives are not 'full'
[19:29] <Linuz2009> all i see is lots of programs.
[19:29] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I want to get more space
[19:29] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: the shred launcher is in a different instance of nautilus so it will be run as that users permission.  just do this from the command line because it's going to be a lot easier
[19:29] <Ghoti> Linuz2009: 69GB not enough room for you? o.O
[19:29] <BleSS> ubuntu comes with py 2.6 by default, how use any another python version for a moment?
[19:29] <usr13> Linuz2009: What are you trying to do?
[19:30] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: almost everything is easier from the command line
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  err.. you are only using 3gb of your 66gb hard drive..  4% in use...
[19:30] <kashikai> #host
[19:30] <Lothen> I type all that stuff and it does nothing
[19:30] <tuffgong> http://pastebin.com/d43d3521a
[19:30] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: I thought I'm using alot of space
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  so again whats the ORIGINAL problem then?
[19:30] <elexodus> Anybody know the command to copy an entire partitian to another drive? Thanks in advance,
[19:30] <tuffgong> as u can see i havent added any sources that werent there with ubuntu
[19:30] <fryguy> BleSS: this is probably helpful http://achinghead.com/archive/83/installing-multiple-versions-python/
[19:30] <elexodus> Anybody know the command to copy an entire partitian to another drive? Thanks in advance
[19:30] <Lothen> I type ^X and ^0 and neither one does anything
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:   its says 4% in use.. right there...
[19:30] <tuffgong> so what is a bad source
[19:30] <hmw> elexodus: partimg
[19:31] <Lothen> Also the second command in the first line tells me nothing as well
[19:31] <usr13> Linuz2009: If you want [or need]  more space, get a larger drive. Or a second drive.
[19:31] <fryguy> Lothen: ^ is ctrl, not the actual carat symbol
[19:31] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: tehehe.. I'm kinda afraid of the command line, but I'll give it a try. So what I would do is cd /var/log/. Then, "shred syslog"?
[19:31] <Lothen> Ah! I had no way of knowing that
[19:31] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: no
[19:31] <elexodus> hmw: sudo partimg [partitian1] [drive2]?
[19:31] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: cd /var/log; ls; and then shred each file that you want to shred
[19:32] <Linuz2009> how can I create a second drive?
[19:32] <usr13> Linuz2009: If you want a smaller install, try Xubuntu.
[19:32] <hmw> elexodus: you may have to install that program first. try man partimg or google. The program itself is quite easy to use (terminal, but menu oriented)
[19:32] <BleSS> fryguy: thanks but jaunty already comes with several python distributions
[19:32] <elexodus> hmw: cool, thanks
[19:32] <usr13> Linuz2009: You may have a bit of trouble creating one, but you can go to the store and buy one.
[19:33] <Linuz2009> you mean a external hard drive?
[19:33] <fryguy> BleSS: so then follow the part of the instructions that deals with manipulating both pythons at the same time
[19:33] <hmw> elexodus: there is a "linux rescue cd" with partimg on it somehwere on the web. You might want to burn on of those and boot it, instead of copying a "living" partition.
[19:33] <usr13> Linuz2009: Are you about to run out of hard drive space?
[19:33] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: ah okay. I'll give it at try. Thanks!
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  why do you need mroe space when you are only using 4% of what you got...
[19:33]  * malex wonders if this is a good time to dist-upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 i.e. known release glitches worked out, yet?
[19:33] <Ghoti> usr13: he's got about 70GB of space free on his drive..
[19:34] <hmw> Linuz2009: whats your problem with the partition? do you want to resize it?
[19:34] <Ghoti> malex: I did a live upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 yesterday and it worked perfectly, for what that's worth
[19:34] <usr13> Linuz2009: You can install an internal drive if you like, or you can just get an external drive if you prefer. It is up to you.  The choice is yours.
[19:34] <malex> Ghoti: yes, that's what I wanted to hear :)
[19:34] <Linuz2009> No, never mind I thought there's something wrong with my computer
[19:34] <Lothen> ^X does not exit GNU nano
[19:34] <lordmetroid> is ext4 preferable to ext3 for a media where I want to store my multimedia assets data?
[19:34] <Linuz2009> thanks though
[19:34] <Ghoti> malex: glad to help :)
[19:35] <fryguy> lordmetroid: probably not
[19:35] <lordmetroid> ok
[19:35] <Lothen> When I ^o or whatever I lose the cursor
[19:35] <lordmetroid> thanks
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  what did you 'think' was wrong? get the full/empty numbers backwards?
[19:35] <Linuz2009> A lot of empty folders
[19:35] <hume> hi... just upgraded to jaunty - now I find nowhere in amarok where i can connect and move media to my mp3-player ---anyone knows ho to connect media players to new amarok in jaunty?
[19:35] <Linuz2009> does that reduce space
[19:35] <e1luca> on install 9.04 I selected "Keyboard with Euro symbol on 5" witch is where it is on my Vaio keyboard. How do I acces it? tnx
[19:35] <fryguy> Linuz2009: 4kb per folder in ext filesystems
[19:35] <Linuz2009> like broken folder
[19:35] <hmw> Lothen: after CTRL-O it asks for the file name, just hit ENTER
[19:35] <tuffgong> fryguy, armornick, http://pastebin.com/d43d3521a
[19:36] <Ghoti> hume: Amarok is a KDE app, is it not? You might get more assistance in #kubuntu if no one in here has an answer.
[19:36] <Linuz2009> if thought its empty, its still using 4kb?
[19:36] <Lothen> Didn't ask for that
[19:36] <tuffgong> as u can see i havent changed my sources at all
[19:36] <Lothen> cursor just vanished and it stayed right where it was
[19:36] <usr13> Linuz2009: What you have installed is Ubuntu that is not just the operating system.  Ubuntu has many many open source applications for you to use.  One of them is OpenOffice, for instance, and OpenOffice takes up 200MB at least.
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  empty is empty..  whats empty?
[19:36] <fryguy> tuffgong: anything in sources.d
[19:36] <Lothen> Second time it did take me to a type of file name, but would not let me edit it
[19:36] <hmw> Lothen: full keys to exit+save is CTRL-X, Y, ENTER
[19:36] <fryguy> Linuz2009: yes it still uses 4k
[19:36] <fryguy> you have to store the fact that the folder exists somehow
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> it takes a lot of empty folders to fill up a gb. :)
[19:37] <Linuz2009> I saved it in my computer so I'll paste it into a URL for you guys to see.
[19:37] <tuffgong> fryguy, nothing in sources.d
[19:37] <fryguy> tuffgong: and you can't apt-get update?
[19:37] <hmw> Dr_Disk 1.000.000/8.000 folders?
[19:37] <usr13> Linuz2009: Pastebin what you want us to see.
[19:37] <hmw> oops... <IP_ADDRESS>/8.192 or so
[19:37] <tuffgong> fryguy, no i can update
[19:37] <Lothen> Still frozen after doing ^0
[19:38] <fryguy> err my bad, it's 512 bytes on ext3 filesystems, i was getting confused with another filesystem
[19:38] <tuffgong> fryguy, i cant update my system using Update Manager
[19:38] <fryguy> tuffgong: i don't use Update Manager, so I can't help you there
[19:38] <hmw> Lothen: it should blink somewhere on the bottom (3rd last line), asking for a file name
[19:38] <Black_Phantom> Hello
[19:38] <Linuz2009> here's all the errors that I found with Klean sweeper and its a LONG list, http://paste.ubuntu.com/163046/
[19:38] <Lothen> I cannot scroll and there is no blinker/cursor/ After I did Ctrl - 0 it vanished
[19:38] <tuffgong> fryguy, i cant install anything using apt-get install
[19:38] <tuffgong> or purge
[19:38] <fryguy> Lothen: it's O, not 0
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  i wouldent worry too much about kleansweep
[19:39] <Black_Phantom> Why Adobe flash player is slow in Ubuntu ?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Linuz2009:  if the sytem works - leave it alone
[19:39] <hmw> fryguy lotharn btw. CTRL-0 (zero) does nothing on my nano
[19:39] <fryguy> Black_Phantom: because it's proprietary closed source software that we have no control over.  Try bypassing nspluginwrapper by using the native 64-bit alpha direct from adobe
[19:39] <Ghoti> Black_Phantom: because it's slow everywhere? :)
[19:39] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: Okay, it works. Thank you so much. I have one more question for you. For all the log files there is (logfile name) and (logfile name).0 It appears that the one without the .0 at the end is some sort of application. Can you explain what the difference between the two is?
[19:39] <mogi22> how do you save a shoutcast stream so that vlc media player plays it automatically upon starting vlc?
[19:39] <Linuz2009> sure, I'll try my best not to modify my system.
[19:39] <blake_> In rhythmbox, is it possible to change the column order?   Try pressing ENTER
[19:40] <fryguy> Ubuntu111111: no idea, i don't have logfiles like that
[19:40] <Black_Phantom> fryguy you mean downloading the 64-bit version ?
[19:40] <Black_Phantom> of Adobe flash player ?
[19:40] <fryguy> Black_Phantom: yes
[19:40] <Linuz2009> so should I uninstall Klean Sweeper?
[19:40] <Lothen> They look the same to me. I cannot tell the difference between the two on this interface. 1 and 1 look the same. 0 and 0 look the same
[19:41] <Black_Phantom> But i dont have a 64-bit processor fryguy is that ok ?
[19:41] <Ubuntu111111> fryguy: Okay, thanks again for your help.
[19:41] <fryguy> Black_Phantom: it's not
[19:41] <hmw> Ubuntu111111: looks like "log rotation" to me. After a log file is getting bigger than a certain amount, it is renamed LOGFILENAME.SOMENUMBER and a new file is created
[19:41] <Linuz2009> since its insignificant?
[19:41] <tuffgong> can anyone here please please help me... i get this error 'files list file for package `flex' is missing final newline' when i try to install software or update my system using Update Manager
[19:41] <andycan> I cant compile abgx360 gui under ubuntu 8.10, make complains about wxwidgets, i have the latest and ./configure reports the package to be okay. Whats wrong here? http://pastebin.com/d4810ab9c
[19:41] <monik> hola
[19:42] <monik> hola
[19:42] <hmw> !ask | monik
[19:42] <monik> alguien puede ayudarme
[19:42] <malex> Where does "network manager" keep connection info/passphrases? I must back it up before upgrade to jaunty or I could loose my wifi connection at work.
[19:42] <hmw> !es | monik
[19:42] <Black_Phantom> fryguy there is any other flash player which is 'open source' at the same time 100% compatible with Linux/Ubuntu ?
[19:42] <fryguy> Black_Phantom: gnash
[19:42] <monik> si espanol
[19:42] <monik> spain
[19:43] <Linuz2009> Dr_Willis: so I should uninstall Klean Sweeper and leave my system from there?
[19:43] <Lothen> Alright! Made it out!
[19:43] <usr13> Linuz2009: I'm going to pass on to you some important information that applies to lots of different situations;  "If it aint broke, don't fix it."    Linux filesystems requre very little maintenance.  It requres some, but very little. What  little it does requre is done automatically for you.
[19:43] <monik> i have a problem with ubunut-server
[19:43] <Lothen> I named it menu.lst
[19:43] <Black_Phantom> Aha ok, thanks for your help fryguy
[19:43] <Linuz2009> usr13: sure
[19:43] <Lothen> I cannot see the taskbar at the bottom of my computer because some jerk messed up the bottom half of it cuz I got his girlfriend to dump him
[19:43] <paolo88> hi! graphic card nVidia FX770M is compatible with ubuntu?
[19:43] <Lothen> That is why I could not see it
[19:44] <shamus> when a drive to pass the initial system check on boot, where is the log file saved?
[19:44] <usr13> Lothen: Shouldn
[19:44] <Lothen> Man perhaps I should avoid text console
[19:44] <Lothen> I cannot see the bottom!
[19:44] <monik> I have a problem with the sound, how I configure it?
[19:44] <usr13> Lothen: Shouldn't have gotten his girlfriend to dump him.
[19:44] <hmw> Lothen: then adjust the monitor
[19:44] <IndyGunFreak> !sound | monik
[19:44] <Linuz2009> so do you guys think I should install a anti-phishing toolbar?
[19:44] <MHz128> paolo88, yes
[19:44] <shamus> when a drive fails to pass the initial system check on boot, where is the log files saved?*
[19:44] <monik> yes
[19:44] <Lothen> Eh, he was a jerk. I back at him x10 anyways
[19:45] <One_More_Time> je vais te pété dans la bouche put1
[19:45] <fryguy> Linuz2009: if you feel like you might become a victim of phishing, and don't trust the mechanisms put into browsers stock configurations, then sure
[19:45] <hmw> shamus: good question. Maybe the init-ram-disk?
[19:45] <paolo88> MHz128: i must install driver or ubuntu download and install it?
[19:45] <Pici> !fr | One_More_Time
[19:45] <MHz128> paolo88, yes
[19:45] <fryguy> paolo88: ubuntu will do it for you
[19:46] <Linuz2009> fryguy: then where can I install one for linux?
[19:46] <Lothen> vga=773 I could use instead if I am picky and like decimal instead of hexidecimal right?
[19:46] <fryguy> you install one for your browser, not for your operating system
[19:46] <hmw> shamus: in either case, you should be able to access the files under /var/log anyways. Maybe the content is lost after shutdown
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> Theres paranoid. then theres Tinfoil-hat paranoid
[19:46] <Linuz2009> fryguy: if you had no idea then I google it.
[19:46] <fryguy> Linuz2009: take a look at firefox add-ons
[19:46] <One_More_Time> farte in your nose
[19:46] <shamus> hmw: im not sure, In order for my machine to boot, I have to hit control-d, it's odd
[19:46] <hmw> Lothen: technically, it is irrelevant. I recommend to use hex, because when you use vga=ask, you will be presented hex codes only.
[19:47] <paolo88> fryguy: ubuntu 64 bit? The gpu are will active?
[19:47] <hmw> shamus: sounds like you ended up in a root console
[19:47] <Lothen> Gotcfha
[19:47] <fryguy> paolo88: yes
[19:47] <hmw> shamus: like the "repair" menu entry in grub
[19:47] <shamus> hmw: yes I did, i just mounted this drive yesterday, and after a reboot this is what the system is doing
[19:48] <hmw> shamus: check your /boot/grub/menu.lst - did something mess up your boot params?
[19:48] <DigitalKiwi> what is a root console?
[19:48] <elexodus> hmw: nice program. When partimage creates an image, does it creat an image file that needs to be extracted, or does it directly copy the partitian?
[19:48] <hmw> elexodus: it can do both
[19:48] <elexodus> hmw: hmm, I wonder which one I did.
[19:48] <elexodus> hmw: I guess I'll know in 78 hours or so.
[19:48] <hmw> elexodus: just a little hint *giggles* think, _before_ you type
[19:49] <elexodus> hmw:lol
[19:49] <shamus> hmw: well, it's not in the boot so I'm not exactly sure it is a grub error, it's before the login and after i chose the operating system to start, and this drive isnt for booting, there is only one partition and it is used for storage, no boots
[19:49] <Linuz2009> fryguy: how can I update my mozilla browser?
[19:49] <Jared> sup guys
[19:49] <Lothen> What is the difference between getting root access and using sudo?
[19:49] <fryguy> Linuz2009: you can't (easily), you use the version that is provided for you by ubuntu
[19:49] <fryguy> Lothen: nothing
[19:49] <Lothen> Thought so
[19:50] <meoblast001> is it possible to mount a CUE file?
[19:50] <hmw> shamus: i was not thinking of a grub error, but a strange kernel parameter, something like the one, that leads to the "repair" console auto-login
[19:50] <Linuz2009> fryguy: you mean I can't update it?/
[19:50] <paolo88> fryguy: well! I want buy a Mobile Precision M4400 with the nVidia FX770M, Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo T9400 (2.53GHz,6MB L2 Cache 1066MHz), 4GB, 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel,  320GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM) Hard Drive, EMEA Intel Pro Wireless WI-FI 5100 (802.11a/g/Draft-n 1X2) MiniCard for Centrino 2 Label
[19:50] <DigitalKiwi> sudo is safer
[19:50] <fryguy> Linuz2009: right
[19:50] <Lothen> Are there not cases though when I will want root access instead of sudo in Ubunu though?
[19:50] <usr13> meoblast001: What is CUE?
[19:50] <DigitalKiwi> well not really
[19:50] <Jared> lothen: sometimes
[19:50] <meoblast001> usr13: similar to an ISO
[19:50] <paolo88> fryguy: ubuntu 64 bit is compatible with this notebook?
[19:50] <DigitalKiwi> it isn't safer  in so far as security, but in far as doing something stupid
[19:50] <Lothen> Like when?
[19:50] <fryguy> palmje: sure
[19:50] <DigitalKiwi> like rm -rf <root>
[19:50] <fryguy> paolo88: sure
[19:50] <shamus> hmw, yes, well where would this log file be created do you think? it said something about fsdisk
[19:51] <Jared> lothen: if you use su and authenticate, you stay root afterwards when using terminal
[19:51] <usr13> meoblast001: file filename.CUE
[19:51] <Jared> using sudo is just for like one thing at a time
[19:51] <Lothen> Ah
[19:51] <DigitalKiwi> oh and don't forget that if you don't close the terminal and someone comes up to your computer
[19:51] <meoblast001> usr13: ?
[19:51] <fryguy> Jared: there's also sudo -i
[19:51] <Jared> exactly
[19:51] <DigitalKiwi> which is why startx is kind of stupid
[19:51] <Linuz2009> fryguy: so ubuntu installed mozilla fox and disable the update function so the version ubuntu provide will be safe even w/o pathces?
[19:51] <DigitalKiwi> startx; logout
[19:51] <paolo88> fryguy: UPEK® Fingerprint Reader (Swipe) too?
[19:51] <DigitalKiwi> ftw
[19:51] <Linuz2009> patches.
[19:51] <Jared> i'm really digging 9.04 so far XD
[19:52] <fryguy> paolo88: no idea
[19:52] <Jared> only prob is it freezes completely sometimes :\
[19:52] <Thirsteh> sudo will 'forget' that you authenticated after a while, though
[19:52] <usr13> meoblast001: See: http://he.fi/bchunk/
[19:52] <Lothen> I don't suppose anyone knows how to get ArcView working on Ubuntu? heh heh
[19:52] <fryguy> Linuz2009: yes
[19:52] <Jared> what's Arcview? o.O
[19:52] <Jared> sounds kind of cool
[19:52] <Lothen> www.esri.com
[19:52] <Lothen> GIS software
[19:52] <paolo88> fryguy: but dosen't work i can use the passwor or not?
[19:52] <hmw> shamus: since the file system in *nix is kind of virtual, the logs are always under /var/log. The question is, where is /var/log physically? might be the initramfs or some other sort of ram disk.
[19:52] <fryguy> arcview is an esri product for doing gis stuff
[19:53] <Lothen> yup
[19:53] <Jared> ah ok
[19:53] <fryguy> paolo88: ?
[19:53] <Jared> thought it was some new sort of alt-tab thing xD
[19:53] <Jared> that reminds me i need to configure ringswitcher..
[19:53] <Lothen> lol I am not paying thousands in extensions for that
[19:53] <hmw> shamus: mount will tell you about mounted file systems (ram disks included)
[19:53] <shamus> hmw: will do
[19:53] <fryguy> Lothen: esri is a windows only platform, so you'll need either an emulation or virtualization layer to run those products
[19:53] <Jack8899> fryguy: I downloaded the .deb package. But it didnt install either. It didn't say much, something like "an error occured".
[19:54] <perillu> I have a Dell Latitude D510.  OpenGL applications seem to constantly flicker though.  Even glxgears, the display flickers it sort of "blinks" to white and back to the glxgears display.  It uses the video card:  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[19:54] <Lothen> Yeah, will wine work?
[19:54] <lanoxx> how can i remove a low level ata password? i have an hp pavillion of a friend here and he asked me to fix it, the bios utility fails scanning the drive so i wanted to run some other tools, but i always get the message that there is a low level ata passwort set and the drive is locked
[19:54] <Linuz2009> fryguy: just to let you know, I install netcraft toolbar.
[19:54] <fryguy> Lothen: yes
[19:54] <elexodus> hmw: Ok, that wasn't going to work... How do you copy a partitian directly to a new drive?
[19:54] <hmw> shamus: simply "mount"... or "sudo fdisk -l" to see all partitions, your sys finds.
[19:54] <fryguy> elexodus: use dd
[19:54] <paolo88> fryguy: if the finger read don't work...i can use the password for login, true?
[19:54] <usr13> lanoxx: No
[19:54] <fryguy> paolo88: sure
[19:54] <elexodus> fryguy: dd?
[19:54] <Lothen> how do I install wine from commandline? I know how to get it from the menu system, but I want to learn commandline! *laughs*
[19:54] <fryguy> elexodus: dd
[19:54] <lanoxx> usr13, what do you mean with no?
[19:54] <Linuz2009> And I don't think I'll need to install an anti-virus
[19:54] <enissay_> How can i install SopCast on Intrepid please?
[19:54] <fryguy> Lothen: apt-get install wine
[19:54] <Linuz2009> right?
[19:54] <usr13> lanoxx: If you find out, let me know.
[19:54] <elexodus> Lothen: sudo apt-get install wine-hq
[19:54] <hmw> elexodus: i dont know by heart. Try the man page or look through the menus. SHouldnt be hard. You may have a problem, if the partition is already mounted, but I am not certain about this
[19:55] <shamus> hmw: http://pastebin.ca/1410576
[19:55] <Lothen> so which is it? confused
[19:55] <Linuz2009> heard that linux is diffcult for hackers to crack
[19:55] <digitalfallacy> I have interpid packages .... can i install them with one command ??
[19:55] <paolo88> fryguy: at the end i can buy this notebook and install ubuntu!
[19:55] <elexodus> fryguy: so, dd would be the command?
[19:55] <fryguy> elexodus: right
[19:55] <perillu> Linuz2009: no you don't need an inti-virus
[19:55] <perillu> Linuz2009: anti-virus*
[19:55] <digitalfallacy> Linuz2009: where did u herd that ?
[19:55] <hmw> shamus: i'd guess its located on /dev/sda4