[04:38] <FiReSTaRT> bruenig: i just wanted to double-check something (for obvious reasons)... by backing up /home i'd also back up all of my bookmarks, emails (t-bird) and evolution stuff?
[04:38] <bruenig> kiyiko: flash is a garbage proprietary application, could be many things
[04:38] <Fisia> how to change display setting on ubuntu... i use LiveCD & pc that displaying low-resolution-vga, so the gui looks BIGy
[04:38] <bruenig> FiReSTaRT: you are, yes
[04:38] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: right click on any directory in nautilus, go to properties -> Open With and instead of vlc, choose "Open Folder"
[04:39] <kiyiko> bruenig: but the odd thig is, it happened when i updated to firefox 3, and now it works in no browser.
[04:39] <FiReSTaRT> thanks bruenig.. in that case i'll have a few hours of fun fun fun tomorrow :)
[04:39] <bruenig> kiyiko: try reinstalling it?
[04:40] <kiyiko> i have reinstalled anything tat i think could be the matter.
[04:40] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, maybe you're not understanding.  the file manager is working fine, but from the "places" menu certain items (the ones at the top...) are not working.  they try to open with vlc.
[04:40] <bruenig> !info firefox
[04:40] <mxweas_> bruenig: lo no wireless extensions and eth0 no wireless extensions
[04:40] <bruenig> meta package?
[04:40] <justin_> has anyone attempted to run world of warcraft on ubuntu?
[04:40] <bruenig> why is firefox a meta package?
[04:40] <bruenig> mxweas_: do ifconfig
[04:40] <mxweas_> k
[04:40] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: I know, and following those steps will fix the problem
[04:40] <mxweas_> shows eth0 and lo
[04:40] <mxweas_> and a bunch of info about them
[04:41] <rww> Hi everyone! I use the Gnome desktop environment, but run some KDE apps. Unfortunately, they all look weird and are themed differently because (I assume) they use Qt. I vaguely remember there being something I could install to make KDE apps look like Gnome apps. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[04:41] <bruenig> mxweas_: your driver is not working then, either that or you have your card switched off via some hardware switch
[04:41] <mxweas_> there are no hw switches on my card
[04:41] <mxweas_> any idea how to check the driver?
[04:41] <rww> justin_: I got it working a while ago with the help of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:41] <mxweas_> I'm pretty sure I did it right, but iono
[04:41] <lvlefisto> hi, i am using hardy, but since i had some troubles with xmms2 i downloaded xmms2 Intrepid packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com it didn't run so i uninstalled xmms2 Intrepid and installed xmms2 Hardy. Everything is ok with xmms2 now, but now i can't run realplayer
[04:41] <kiyiko> oh, and whenever i maximize firefox, it takes up the whole screen, including covering panels, and such...any idea?
[04:41] <bruenig> mxweas_: modprobe it to make sure it is running, if no device other than lo or eth0 show up, it is not working
[04:42] <mxweas_> how do I mod probe it?
[04:42] <justin_> rww:  Thank you, i will attempt it on a dual boot with my desktop
[04:42] <mxweas_> like modprobe wl ?
[04:42] <lvlefisto> after all that, i'm having this error: "error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[04:42] <bruenig> mxweas_: sudo modprobe "name-of-driver" whatever the name of that module was
[04:42] <mxweas_> k
[04:42] <ganesh> no title bar for directory windows....with firefox and media player its fine...
[04:42] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, i honestly tried your steps.  the (many) file managers i have installed are all working.  but when i go thru the "places" menu, certain items (the top ones) open with vlc...
[04:42] <tarelerulz1>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:43] <mxweas_> bruenig: how do I know if I got the driver name correct?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: I don't know how directories are being set to open in vlc but it's happened to others, the file browser understands that directories are directories and thus doesn't try to "Open With" anything but itself, the menu is not so smart.
[04:43] <Xpistos> morning all
[04:43] <bruenig> mxweas_: should have just gone to the next line
[04:43] <bruenig> mxweas_: if it succeeded that is
[04:43] <rww> bruenig: if i remember correctly it's because, for a while, there were packages for both firefox 2 and firefox 3 in the repos, and the firefox package was introduced to point to the ubuntu recommended version
[04:43] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, well, is there a settings folder i can blast out or something?  i just need this places menu fixed.
[04:43] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: It's not that they won't open correctly in nautilus but that nautilus is the way to get to the setting to fix it
[04:44] <e-frame> mxweas_:  lsmod | grep b43
[04:44] <Xpistos> can anyone tell me, is it possible to log int remotely from an unbuntu workstation to an ubuntu server with an RDP like session?
[04:44] <rww> !vnc | Xpistos
[04:44] <bruenig> rww: that is super obnoxious
[04:44] <mxweas_> bruenig: I tried modprobe wl and modprobe b43 and both just went to the next line
[04:44] <e-frame> .
[04:44] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, i did what you suggested, but it didn't change any behavior in the places menu...
[04:44] <mxweas_> now what?
[04:44] <bruenig> mxweas_: ifconfig
[04:44] <jjdiamond> as far as installing .tar files do i open with archive manager?  or do i save file to desktop?
[04:44] <mxweas_> bruenig: same as it was
[04:44] <ganesh> no title bar for directory windows....with firefox and media player its fine... how do i fix it?
[04:45] <e-frame> mxweas_: lsmod | grep b43
[04:45] <bullgard4> Why is there the Linux kernel documentation in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ as well as in /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentation/ ?
[04:45] <bruenig> mxweas_: failure then, get another driver
[04:45] <Xpistos> Thanks rww I will give it a shot
[04:45] <e-frame> mxweas_: is it loaded ? b43
[04:45] <yowshi> something unbeliably screwey is going on wth my system
[04:45] <xtian> anyone know anything about sysfs attributes?
[04:45] <mxweas_> e-frame: lsmod | grep b43 returns a few lines
[04:46] <e-frame> what's your wireless card detail? lspci
[04:46] <e-frame> mxweas_:  what's your wireless card detail? lspci
[04:46] <yowshi> somehow some part of my grub got stuck onto ex windows IDe drive instead of it's proper partition on my sda1 drivde
[04:46] <mxweas_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless
[04:46] <yowshi> so whe i was booting i was getting a grub error 15
[04:46] <e-frame> !pastebin mxweas_
[04:46] <e-frame> !pastebin | mxweas_
[04:46] <mxweas_> e-frame: I'm on tty 1
[04:46] <mxweas_> I can't copy stuff
[04:47] <Nutubuntu> Hello all, I ran into trouble with the kernel upgrade and although that's OK now, somehow my Firefox bookmarks and addons were a casualty. Is there any way to get those back?
[04:47] <yowshi> but if i chose the hda1 for boot i got runnin
[04:47] <mxweas_> I'll type it exactly as I see it
[04:47] <yowshi> anyone know how tihs would happenband how do i fix it
[04:47] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Unfortunately it's probably a gconf key somewhere and I don't know where, you could blast ( or temporarily move ) all of ~/.gconf but that will loose all gnome settings
[04:47] <mxweas_> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless
[04:47] <ozatomic> got a problem with my ubuntu as a guest on vmware esx. If i try and do a apt-get install, it some times locks up the os and i have to reboot it but if i transfer 10gb data accross the network to it, it doesn't lockup?
[04:47] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, i'll rename it and see.  i don't mind losing some settings in the name of fixing that damned places menu!  thanks.
[04:47] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: np
[04:48] <e-frame> mxweas_: what distro release do u use ?
[04:48] <mxweas_> ubuntu 8.04
[04:49] <yowshi> hello i got a very wierd tyhing going on with my grub anyone think tey can help me fix it?
[04:49] <mxweas_> e-frame: any ideas?
[04:50] <rww> Anyone know how I can make Qt applications be themed the same way as Gnome applications? I vaguely remember there being a package that could do it, but I can't find it :(
[04:50] <e-frame> !wireless | mxweas_
[04:50] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, well i hate to bug ya.  i definitely have the "stock" settings now!  but places menu still opens in vlc.  but only the folders on the top!  i don't get it.
[04:50] <mxweas_> e-frame: I've looked over that numerous times...
[04:51] <e-frame> mxweas_: "ifconfig -a" is it detected?
[04:51] <mxweas_> no
[04:52] <mxweas_> it just shows eth0 and lo
[04:52] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Have you tried logging out then back in again just in case gnome-settings-daemon is remembering it?
[04:52] <e-frame> mxweas_: take a look http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=896713
[04:52] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, that's what i just did when i left.
[04:53] <e-frame> mxweas_: i use b43fwcutter with wl_apsta.o
[04:53] <e-frame> btw mine is bcm4311
[04:54] <mikematic> Hi All...Im trying to install samba and everytime I try to compile by running the script autogen.sh I get the error: " need autoconf 2.53 or later to build samba from SVN". Anybody who knows how to resolve this please ping me. Thanks
[04:54] <ballzee> how do i get rid of kwallett for ever ?
[04:54] <click170> In gnome, why are all of the folders sorted to the bottom when viewing as list, even if you have it sorted by Date Modified?
[04:54] <rww> mikematic: any particular reason why you're compiling it instead of grabbing it from the ubuntu repositories?
[04:55] <mxweas_> e-frame: thx
[04:55] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: Odd, here is the bug report about this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/260492
[04:55] <mxweas_> that thread I think will work perfectly
[04:55] <mikematic> Im trying to build from scratch instead of working on a built code...Just for learning experience
[04:56] <djGreenBuds> quit
[04:56] <R4z3r> does anyone here know how to get involved with helping with releases of ubuntu?
[04:56] <ziroday> R4z3r: how do you want to get involved?
[04:57] <e-frame> mxweas_: god luck
[04:57] <e-frame> good*
[04:57] <R4z3r> preferably design work, anything art related I can do easy
[04:57] <R4z3r> I can do some code work depending on what it is and what it entails
[04:57] <ziroday> R4z3r: I recommend you join the ubuntu-art mailing list, and go say hi to the people in #ubuntu-art
[04:58] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, yep that was it!  thanks.  now lets see if i can restore all those settings haha
[04:58] <rww> mikematic: okays. Well, do you have autoconf installed? The latest version in hardy appears to be 2.61, so if you install it you should be okay. Try sudo apt-get install autoconf and see :)
[04:58] <rafero> hi people
[04:58] <R4z3r> ok, thank you ziroday, I will look for the art mailing list...
[04:58]  * R4z3r goes searching
[04:58] <klos> anyone can suggest me a decent music player
[04:58] <klos> ive tried lots and they all suck :(
[04:58] <ziroday> mikematic: also make sure you have the metapackage build-essential installed as you will need it to compile any package
[04:59] <ziroday> R4z3r: I can get it for you if you want
[04:59] <Revalga> hello! i would like to setup dual monitors.  currently ubuntu only notices clone, or 1.  is there something special i have to do for a dual head video card?  can edit an xorg config by hand?
[04:59] <rafero> have you tried with audacius?? or xmms?
[04:59] <R4z3r> that would be very helpful though you don't have to, you seem very busy ziroday
[04:59] <diese1> can i install Vuze on ubuntu?
[04:59] <rberckma> I just installed 8.10 and I was trying to set up my old metacity keybindings in gconf-editor. It seems binding keys for such targets as move_to_workspace_1 has no effect... any ideas?
[04:59] <ziroday> R4z3r: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[04:59] <klos> rafero, yea i used audacious all the time but it has so many buigs and hardly gets developed
[04:59] <ziroday> rberckma: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:59] <rberckma> tks
[04:59] <R4z3r> I don't believe so diese1
[04:59] <R4z3r> I'd recommend rtorrent
[04:59] <e-frame> how to fix sarg-reports weekly & monthly? i tried all suggested scripts, but nothing worked. the period is always gone wrong.
[05:00] <klos> what id liek is osmething with the size of audacious
[05:00] <klos> but more gtk+
[05:00] <klos> an easy player. not some itunes clone
[05:00] <rafero> i see
[05:00] <mikematic> where do you get those metapackages from ? I dont see any mention of it on the how-to manual of samba :-(
[05:00] <rww> diese1: Looks like it's in the universe repository with the name azureus
[05:00] <diese1> R4z3r:  what is the latest version ov Azureus/Vuze for ubuntu that you know of?
[05:01] <ziroday> R4z3r: for art were you considering themes, wallpapers, icon design?
[05:01] <R4z3r> any and all ziroday
[05:01] <klos> i'll try muine now
[05:01] <R4z3r> I can do them all :-)
[05:01] <R4z3r> wallpapers is easiest for sure
[05:01] <diese1> rww: yes but that version is an older version of the torrent client
[05:01] <R4z3r> icon design is easy enough
[05:01] <ziroday> R4z3r: alright then, well join
[05:01] <rafero> good Klos, good luck
[05:01] <R4z3r> themes I could do if I know what is required of them
[05:01] <klos> :)
[05:01] <rafero> i have to go, bye
[05:01] <waldenasta> hello can someone help me?
[05:01] <ziroday> R4z3r: woops, join #ubuntu-art and offer your help :)
[05:02] <R4z3r> subscribed to the mailing list and am in #ubuntu-artwork
[05:02] <R4z3r> thank you very much for the fast help
[05:02] <R4z3r> I realize your busy and it's appreciated greatly
[05:02] <waldenasta> I am trying to setup mailx to get my system mail but thunderbird keeps telling me that it is "unable to locate mail spool file"
[05:02] <keithclark> How do I stop this stupid disk check every 22 bootups?  It take 20 minutes to complete!
[05:03] <rww> diese1: intrepid has version 3.1 under the package name "vuze", which is less old. Bear in mind that the current version (4.0) only came out a few weeks ago, so it won't make it to the stable repos for a little while.
[05:03] <ziroday> keithclark: press esc when its running the disk check to skip it
[05:04] <klos> yea muine looks good
[05:04] <klos> a bit too simple
[05:04] <keithclark> ziroday, tried that, it just keeps on running
[05:04] <klos> but yea its good enough
[05:04] <mxweas_> e-frame: IT WORKED!!!!
[05:04] <mxweas_> w00t thankyou so much
[05:04] <rww> mikematic: well, you said you needed autoconf, which is installed by the autoconf package. build-essential is just generally a Good Idea if you're going to be compiling your own stuff.
[05:04] <supertanker> I'm getting an error when I put sgid and suid on an executable file, it gives me "Can't do setuid (cannot exec sperl)"
[05:05] <supertanker> What is the significance of this?
[05:05] <e-frame> mxweas_: congrats
[05:05] <outbackwifi> hello
[05:05] <rww> supertanker: is said executable a perl script, perchance?
[05:05] <waldenasta> outbackwifi you a aussie??
[05:06] <outbackwifi> waldenasta: not yet :)
[05:06] <supertanker> rww, not sure
[05:06] <supertanker> Let me look
[05:06] <supertanker> Yes :/
[05:06] <supertanker> Not gonna work?
[05:07] <rww> supertanker: you need package perl-suid, then
[05:07] <pronoy> is there any way i don't see the gnome dedicated applications in kde ? i mean how can i do that ?
[05:07] <YunGifto> hello
[05:07] <rww> supertanker: the hardy package says something about it being deprecated, but the intrepid package doesn't, so it appears to be undeprecated
[05:07] <outbackwifi> pronoy: do you want to see them or dont you?
[05:07] <YunGifto> has anybody been able to play sa:mp on ubuntu
[05:08] <pronoy> outbackwifi: i dont
[05:08] <outbackwifi> pronoy: if you dont plan on using them as well, just apt-get remove them
[05:08] <supertanker> Thanks a million, rww
[05:08] <rww> supertanker: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <YunGifto> has anybody been able to get san andreas running on ubuntu?
[05:09] <supertanker> Erm
[05:09] <mikematic> Thanks rww...I will look into the build-essential someother time. I think for now I will settle with the binary.
[05:09] <supertanker> "Insecure $ENV{PATH} while running setuid at ./inspircd line 267."
[05:09]  * supertanker facedesks
[05:09] <supertanker> This isn't going to work, as a guess
[05:09] <outbackwifi> YunGifto: is that a game called  GTA?
[05:09] <supertanker> It's the start-up script for inspircd
[05:09] <pronoy> outbackwifi: but i like using gnome as well and some applications are good but only gnome dedicated.....i don't want to remove them just don't want to see those question mark ridden icons in kde....is that possible ?
[05:09] <supertanker> It can't seem to find the pid file unless it's made by the user it's owned by
[05:09] <supertanker> (the startup request)
[05:09] <outbackwifi> pronoy: you could get into the kde control center and customize the menus
[05:10] <YunGifto> outbackwifi: yes
[05:10] <pronoy> outbackwifi: ok i'll do that...thanks
[05:10] <YunGifto> gta san andreas
[05:10] <outbackwifi> YunGifto: sorry not  much into gaming myself
[05:11] <YunGifto> lame
[05:11] <rww> !wine | YunGifto
[05:11] <YunGifto> !appDB
[05:11] <rww> supertanker: looks like it's complaining because the script
[05:11] <pronoy> YunGifto: which os are you running ? ubuntu hardy ?
[05:11] <rww> supertanker: (sorry, hit enter by accident) '
[05:12] <YunGifto> 7
[05:12] <rww> supertanker: (twice >.> ) 's inheriting your path because it's setuid... there's probably a way to fix it =/
[05:12] <YunGifto> im not sure the names
[05:12] <supertanker> Badly written script?
[05:12] <YunGifto> ubuntu 7
[05:12] <pronoy> YunGifto: i guess you'll have to check the Appdb at wine....if they don't support it there's another way too
[05:13] <pronoy> first check
[05:13] <YunGifto> whats the other way
[05:13] <HJ> quick odd question, can anyone please tell me the file name for the default gnome panel background image with ibex?
[05:13] <supertanker> Hmm
[05:13] <YunGifto> they have it
[05:13] <YunGifto> but just for future refrence, whats the other way
[05:13] <pronoy> YunGifto: other wise install the virtualbox by sun
[05:13] <pronoy> YunGifto: install windows on a seperate virtual machine and then run it
[05:13] <rww> supertanker: take a look at http://www.perl.com/doc/manual/html/pod/perlsec.html#Cleaning_Up_Your_Path maybe? i'm not really good at perl, so i'm not sure
[05:13] <pronoy> works for me
[05:14] <jeeves_Moss> what would cause a slow connection on an onboard NIC?
[05:14] <YunGifto> a virtual maching running on my ubuntu maching
[05:14] <YunGifto> hmm
[05:14] <YunGifto> machine* btw
[05:14] <lakitu> hey, many years ago my friend sent me this aspiring picture of his desktop (linux), that was all abnormally shaped, the windows & the menus were. are there such things for gnome?
[05:15] <pronoy> YunGifto: forget GTA i tried Crysis....and it totally worked
[05:15] <YunGifto> yeah
[05:15] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: depends on a lot of things, starting with apps, bad crimp etc
[05:15] <YunGifto> but i play a multiplayer mod for gta
[05:15] <YunGifto> its like a morpg
[05:15] <pronoy> YunGifto: try GTA 4 if you like multiplayer
[05:15] <YunGifto> nah
[05:15] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, this is a standard 100Base onboard.  I can connect to it, but the trans seems capped @ 50K/sec
[05:15] <YunGifto> they server i play in is nothing like regular gta
[05:15] <YunGifto> its wild
[05:16] <supertanker> rww, thanks, I'll look later
[05:16] <pronoy> YunGifto: well to everyman his own ! cheers :)
[05:16] <YunGifto> true
[05:16] <rww> HJ: if i remember correctly, it doesn't have a background, it's just semi-transparent. i'm not 100% sure on that, though
[05:16] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: the best way to test is to connect this pc to another via crossover and run iperf between them
[05:16] <pronoy> YunGifto: hey don't you think 7 is too old....upgrade to intrepid 810 that is
[05:17] <pronoy> YunGifto: ITS awesome !! the interface i mean
[05:17] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, I don't have a x-over cable, so I'm outta ideas.
[05:17] <rww> pronoy: might wanna hold off on recommending 8.10 until it's actually released and supported (2 more days!! :D)
[05:17] <outbackwifi> pronoy: YunGifto please take your discussion to ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <jeeves_Moss> I was doing some reading, and it seems like a problem with the card being locked to 10Base-T half duplex
[05:17] <Bullen> hello
[05:17] <pronoy> rww: correct....but heck the beta version still rules
[05:18] <Bullen> i have a question about debian-specific apache that i got from apt-get, i want to edit my vhosts.conf file (as is common) but instead in debian, i have two different config files, one in sites-available and sites-enabled, what is the purpose of this and what should i think about while adding domains to these config files?
[05:18] <pronoy> outbackwifi: sorry....we'll do that
[05:18] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: sudo ethtool eth0 should tell you that
[05:18] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ok, thanks.
[05:19] <rww> Bullen: are you running Ubuntu or Debian? If Debian, you should probably head over to #debian on irc.debian.org
[05:19] <outbackwifi> Bullen: the files in sites-enabled are just sym links to sites-available; they are created when you run a2ensite
[05:19] <Guest10180> :O
[05:19] <outbackwifi> rww: thats ok this is default behavior in ubuntu also
[05:19] <Guest10180> nic/justdale
[05:20] <rww> outbackwifi, Bullen: ah, okay. ignore me, then :)
[05:20] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, humm, it says it's up @ 100Mb @ full
[05:20] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: so that takes care of the card itself being limited; you could try the iperf test
[05:20] <outbackwifi> !iperf
[05:20] <Bullen> sorry
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> Hello all, I ran into trouble with the kernel upgrade and although that's OK now, somehow my Firefox bookmarks and addons were a casualty. Is there any way to get those back?
[05:21] <Bullen> rww: i'm running ubuntu on my home machine, debian on my vps, both have the same config.
[05:21] <Bullen> outbackwifi: so i should just edit sites-available and that will be fine?
[05:21] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ok, syntax?
[05:21] <outbackwifi> Bullen: you can create a separate config file for each virtual host in sites-available and then run a2ensite host
[05:22] <Bullen> ah, ok
[05:22] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: first ensure you have iperf installed on both machines; then (in the simplest form) run iperf -s on one machine and iperf -c on the other (client and server)
[05:22] <Bullen> have to read about that command, thanks for help! =)
[05:22] <Bullen> will look into it!
[05:22] <outbackwifi> Bullen: sure
[05:23] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ahh, ok
[05:23] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, what will this show me?
[05:23] <klos> ok big problem with muine
[05:23] <klos> you cant fast forward haha
[05:23] <klos> :(
[05:23] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: per the site, it will show you  the actual tcp throughput (eg for a 100Mb/s link it comes to around 97 Mb/s )
[05:24] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ok, thanks
[05:24] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: i have seen around 900 Mb/s for a 1G link
[05:24] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, this will be tested accross a WiFi like
[05:24] <Miesco> How do I output a video into a raw video with mplayer?
[05:24] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: it can be tested across any link as long as it is tcp/ip
[05:24] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ok, thanks
[05:25] <outbackwifi> Miesco: not too sure but there seems to be a switch called -vo
[05:26] <dr_willis> mplayer  home page has a Huge amount of Docs On mplayer ussage, and  related tools.
[05:26] <bullgard4> How to key the (TM) sign into the keyboard?
[05:26] <bullgard4> How to key the (TM) sign on the keyboard?
[05:27] <outbackwifi> bullgard4: using the character map
[05:27] <azethoth> heh i gots another question. does anyone know how to get vent working in linux without using cadega which as far as i can tell is a pay service
[05:27] <bullgard4> outbackwifi: This is an impractical advice.
[05:27] <outbackwifi> bullgard4: huh?
[05:27] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, what's the syntax for it again?
[05:28] <alva> how do I play youtube on firefox?
[05:28] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: iperf -s (for server) and iperf -c server-ip (on client)
[05:28] <alva> it says flash missing
[05:28] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, thanks
[05:29] <alva> how do I play youtube on firefox?  it says something about flash
[05:29] <outbackwifi> alva: install flashplayer for linux
[05:29] <alva> outbackwifi, apt-get install flashplayer?
[05:29] <rww> !flash | alva
[05:29] <outbackwifi> rww: tx :)
[05:29] <rww> alva: flashplugin-nonfree, actually :)
[05:29] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, what should the through point of a 54Mb WiFi connection be?
[05:30] <bullgard4> outbackwifi: huhu
[05:30] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: around 20 Mb/s
[05:30] <SupremeNerd> ubuntu is an ancient Africna word for "I can't configure Slackware"
[05:30] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, ok, this seems to be within spec.  so I'm guessing this slow trans issue is a problem with Samba
[05:31] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: yes, you should turn off some noisy features that are specific to that protocol (a tcpdump shows a lot of traffic on 138 and 139)
[05:32] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, well, I know that I can't move things to my Samba shares faster than 50K/sec, and it's annoying.  the board has a gig card on it, plugged into a gig switch, etc
[05:32] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: wheres the wifi ?
[05:33] <Miesco> What do I use to convert video files?
[05:33] <outbackwifi> Miesco: vlc
[05:33] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, the WiFi is fine.  we have fine transfers to other servers on the internal network.  it's just this Samba server that's giving us problems
[05:34] <outbackwifi> jeeves_Moss: id rather use ssh/scp/sftp/sshfs as its is available across OSs and is faster
[05:34] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, lol,  samba was the lowest common.
[05:34] <jeeves_Moss> outbackwifi, not to mention that my windows users are dumb
[05:35] <bingungaja> why can't i monitor my hdd and vga card temperature with sensors-detect ?
[05:35] <klp> hello
[05:35] <rww> !hi | klp
[05:35] <Miesco> outbackwifi: What about when vlc doesnt support the sound for it?  mplayer plays it with sound, vlc doesn
[05:35] <outbackwifi> bingungaja: one reason could be that they dont have sensors for this?
[05:36] <outbackwifi> Miesco: without specifics, i cant think of a response
[05:36] <bingungaja> outbackwifi : sorry what do u mean, in indonesian forum, others can detect their vga and hdd, but mine only "cpu, core0 and core1"
[05:37] <klp> (1) is it possible to the skin the login page of cmsms for my clients and (2) is is possible to modify the links that show up on the left hand side once they log in (under help)?
[05:37] <Miesco> outbackwifi: Its a 3g2 file
[05:37] <outbackwifi> bingungaja: do they have the same HDD and VGA card that you do?
[05:38] <Fisia> can ubuntu be as low as posible ...like 50mb ubuntu and runs on Flashdisk?
[05:38] <hackercompany> hi all this is ashmeet I want to know how to configure a wifi driver on ubuntu
[05:38] <outbackwifi> Miesco: hmm cant help you with that
[05:38] <Fisia> imagine Live Flashh
[05:38] <outbackwifi> Fisia: at 50mb you are thinking of DSL (damn small linux); ive got ubuntu on a 2G flash disk
[05:38] <bingungaja> outbackwifi : oh u mean, in sensors-detect, do not support my HDD and VGA card , ic ic
[05:38] <Fisia> and Ubuntu from scratch
[05:39] <Fisia> :)
[05:39] <dr_willis> Puppy Linux and DSL are both very handy/small disrtos :)
[05:39] <rww> klp: you might want to join the CMSMS irc channel at #cms (same server as this one) and ask them :)
[05:39] <dr_willis> Ubuntu live cd on flash drive - needs  i think 1gb at least.
[05:39] <klp> oh ok thanks!
[05:40] <loafers> dr willis
[05:40] <outbackwifi> !ask | hackercompany
[05:40] <loafers> have you ever tried ubuntu live on an external hdd?
[05:40] <rww> !wifi | hackercompany
[05:40] <dr_willis> Im using that unetbootin tool to generate Ubuntu Live cd's on a thumb drive loafers
[05:40] <outbackwifi> loafers: yes
[05:40] <Fisia> :)
[05:40] <loafers> for some reason
[05:40] <hackercompany> what is Apton cd????
[05:40] <loafers> it works differently on a external hdd
[05:40] <loafers> than a flash drive
[05:40] <dr_willis> loafers,  8.10 also has a too to generate a usb/live cd - with a persistant storage space.
[05:41] <outbackwifi> hackercompany: what do you mean by that?
[05:41] <Fisia> how m i ganna to do that? any refferenc sites? 1 giga
[05:41] <rww> !aptoncd | hackercompany
[05:41] <Fisia> |:)
[05:41] <hackercompany> any indian over here
[05:41] <hackercompany> ????
[05:41] <outbackwifi> rww: tx for that :)
[05:41] <rww> !in | hackercompany
[05:41]  * rww high-fives ubottu
[05:41] <outbackwifi> hackercompany: the turban type or red-faced?
[05:42]  * outbackwifi is the former
[05:43] <hackercompany> red-faced
[05:43] <loafers> what does red text mean?
[05:43] <loafers> does that mean someone /msg me?
[05:43] <rww> loafers: red text like this?
[05:43] <hackercompany> I dont know
[05:43] <CROSSWINDS> hey guys, i fubared my system doing a full update-manager -d, it says 8.10 is available via upgrade,but not isos yet, i was wondering.. if idid astock install.. and dist-upgraded fromthat
[05:43] <loafers> yeah
[05:44] <CROSSWINDS> ya think it would work?
[05:44] <Fisia> why linux / ubuntu does not HAVE aList/Map like a list like the one that u see on 1st page of the book, BIG BOOK. :)
[05:44] <rww> loafers: it means someone put your name at the start of a message. not a /msg, just a normal in-chat message
[05:44] <yowshi> hello i got a very weird thing going on with my grub involving a grub error 15 anyone think they can help me fix it?
[05:44] <loafers> o ok
[05:45] <SupremeNerd> Ubuntu is an ancient African word with a dual meaning it roughly translates into "Slackware is too hard for me" and "I can't configure Debian"
[05:46] <outbackwifi> yowshi: we'll all give it a try
[05:46] <CROSSWINDS> besides the upgrade process and bandwidth, etc, would an upgradefrom 8.04 to 8.10 be any different from installing 8.10 when it comes out?
[05:46] <dr_willis> SupremeNerd,  and here i thought it ment "My Ego isent big enough for Debian"
[05:46] <benj32> good afternoon
[05:46] <Fisia> i think that would be nice if we the beginner know the MAP, whats ubuntu contain off, and where is he now on bash terminal
[05:46] <rww> SupremeNerd is a modern-day English word meaning "I troll #ubuntu IRC" and "I'm jealous because my distro takes longer to install than Ubuntu." ;-)
[05:46] <benj32> newbie here
[05:46] <CROSSWINDS> slackware, gentoo are for those that viagra doesnt work for
[05:46] <CROSSWINDS> and for chatroom/forum braggin purposes
[05:47] <SupremeNerd> rww: actually Slackware's installer is faster than Ubuntus
[05:47] <benj32> can anyone help me with my hardware problem in ubuntu? (sigmatel soundcard)
[05:47] <Fisia> UBUNTU is DAMN Fast !!
[05:47] <outbackwifi> guys take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:47] <SupremeNerd> rww: that is if one knows what one is doing
[05:47] <joaquinm> gentoo is an amazing distro, but still its for beginners
[05:47] <yowshi> cool. i dont know what exactly is up but for some reason it isnt booting off the partition it'sx supposed to be booting off. when i try to force it to it gets a grub error 15. when i force it to boot off my hda1 instead of sda1 it boots
[05:47] <Fisia> at least ive try on live CD
[05:47] <yowshi> outbackwifi:
[05:47] <WStraus> Hello, I just installed Sun's JRE and I've got this little script that I have to use for work and it's got a volume scroll in it.. but when I run it I get an error that says.. "Sorry, Speaker Volume control is not possible from Java in your system..."
[05:47] <CROSSWINDS> so guys, is there any real difference from upgrading a stock install of hardy to intrepid, then doing a clean install of intrepid when in comes out
[05:48] <yowshi> Fisia: ubuntu is faster when fully installed :)
[05:48] <outbackwifi> yowshi: are you getting this error after a fresh install?
[05:48] <WStraus> Any ideas??
[05:48] <dr_willis> My 2 Upgrades to Intrepid.. did not go well....
[05:48] <Fisia> woho...
[05:48] <yowshi> outbackwifi: umm no this is an old install of 8.04
[05:48] <outbackwifi> yowshi: what did you do before this started?
[05:48] <yowshi> outbackwifi: worked for months and now getting this strange error
[05:48] <turtle_> xfc here
[05:48] <rww> CROSSWINDS: theoretically, no. In practice, you might end up with random cruft or have problems. If you have a choice of either, do a clean install. If you're considering installing Ubuntu for the first time, wait until the 30th and grab 8.10 :)
[05:49] <SaberZ> from my understanding Crosswinds its best to do a re-install with 8.10
[05:49] <yowshi> outbackwifi: i dont think i did anything to cause this.
[05:49] <CROSSWINDS> ok..shouldve left wellenough alone
[05:49] <CROSSWINDS> i had a great working 8.04
[05:49] <SaberZ> i'm running hardy right now and updated and configured it the way i want, though Im tempted to upgrade gnome
[05:49] <CROSSWINDS> i figured since it was working so well and i tweakedthe hell out of it
[05:49] <CROSSWINDS> it would update well.. darn was i wrong..
[05:50] <raheem> yowshi: everything will have a reason..
[05:50] <SaberZ> i'd make a back up, and try the upgrade
[05:50] <CROSSWINDS> i did
[05:50] <SaberZ> if it works, it works, if not u have your data
[05:50] <yowshi> outbackwifi: i've not been messing with my grub or anything. rebooted a few times today to OC my comp a little and it worked fine until the last OC atempt when it suddenly wouldnt boot off sda1 anymore
[05:50] <jim_p> i finally completed installing everything on the laptop. i have that common dual boot problem with time. linux is 2 hours ahead of windows again. i have done the UTC=no change in /etc/default/rcS. any suggestions? do i miss something like a daemon?
[05:51] <rww> SaberZ: That reminds me... *wanders off to do the theoretically-weekly backup*
[05:51] <outbackwifi> yowshi: is OC--> overclock?
[05:51] <yowshi> outbackwifi: yeah
[05:51] <outbackwifi> yowshi: does it boot fine when you bring it down to standard freq?
[05:52] <yowshi> outbackwifi: no i tried brining it back down that didnt fix the issue.
[05:52] <outbackwifi> jim_p: ntpdate should keep your system uptodate
[05:53] <outbackwifi> yowshi: do you have the livecd with you? if yes, boot off it and do a grub-install on your boot partition
[05:53] <yowshi> outbackwifi: i was thinking that actually. i just finished downloading a new livecd since i lost mine also it was an old version of ubuntu anyway
[05:54] <jim_p> outbackwifi: well, yea i can let it sync time with some online server. the problem is how will i sync time between 2 oses. btw... is there any chance something like regional settings is involved there? or the timezone?
[05:54] <outbackwifi> jim_p: what do you mean by syncing between the two oses? if both of them sync against the same time server, they would be in sync IMHO
[05:54] <elvis123> Hi, I need help setting up a raid 5 on 3 500GB drives. And then installing 7.10.
[05:54] <anewsun> hey all, my mice freeze somehow because of my graphics card..it's debilitating and i'm rebooting every ten minutes, PLEASE check this thread out
[05:55] <yowshi> outbackwifi: i'll try that tommorow though. a grub change out is kind of involved and it's 2 am here. to late/early to be doing something that involved
[05:55] <anewsun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959982
[05:55] <jim_p> outbackwifi: can i make a real life example?
[05:55] <outbackwifi> jim_p: sure
[05:55] <yowshi> outbackwifi: while i have your atention thugh any online manuals or guides for a grub instal/?
[05:56] <outbackwifi> yowshi: sure there are a lot of them, let me link you to one of them
[05:56]  * outbackwifi googles
[05:56] <yowshi> outbackwifi: thanks
[05:56] <dr_willis> Grub Homepage - has some very good docs.
[05:57] <WStraus> Hello, I just installed Sun's JRE and I've got this little script that I have to use for work and it's got a volume scroll in it.. but when I run it I get an error that says.. "Sorry, Speaker Volume control is not possible from Java in your system..."
[05:57] <hackercompany> hey what is the full form of grub
[05:57] <WStraus> Any ideas??
[05:57] <anewsun> anyone have any ideas? again, here's the thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=959982
[05:58] <rww> hackercompany: it's an upgraded version of a program called the GRand Unified Bootloader
[05:58] <outbackwifi> yowshi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[05:58] <yowshi> thanks outbackwifi
[05:58] <jim_p> anewsun: any info in dmesg ?
[05:58] <chameleon> i just connected a new hd how do i check what it is called so i can mount it
[05:58] <anewsun> jim_p, no
[05:58] <droopsta915> How can I get out of the screen after using ctrl-alt-f1?
[05:59] <WStraus> am I asking my question in the wrong chan? or are we jus too busy right now?
[05:59] <outbackwifi> WStraus: does it happen when you run the applet as root? eg sudo java applet etc
[05:59] <chameleon> i just connected a new hd how do i check what it is called so i can mount it
[05:59] <outbackwifi> droopsta915: ctl+d should log you out
[05:59] <jim_p> anewsun: can you give some hardware specs?
[05:59] <chameleon> i just connected a new hd how do i check what it is called so i can mount it
[05:59] <droopsta915> thanks
[05:59] <outbackwifi> !patience | WStraus
[05:59] <WStraus> outbackwifi: I'll give it a shot
[05:59] <anewsun> jim_p, nvidia 7600, amd dual core, 64 bit...
[06:00] <chameleon> i just connected a new hd how do i check what it is called so i can mount it
[06:00] <outbackwifi> chameleon: use gparted
[06:00] <outbackwifi> !repeat | chameleon
[06:00] <anewsun> what else do you need?
[06:00] <rww> chameleon: take a look in gparted (System -> Administration -> Partition Editor). There's a dropdown in the top right with a list of your HDs
[06:00] <strAlan> is there a place where I can download movies to watch
[06:01] <chameleon> rww : im on ubuntu server with only a command line
[06:01] <outbackwifi> chameleon: sudo fdisk
[06:01] <yowshi> outbackwifi: that is a very good manual.
[06:01] <outbackwifi> strAlan: this is a ubuntu support channel
[06:02] <rww> chameleon: try sudo parted -l, then :)
[06:02] <strAlan> chameleon, more specifically sudo fdisk -l
[06:03] <strAlan> yeah parted isn't gonna do it
[06:03] <strAlan> I think you mean fdisk
[06:03] <rww> strAlan: really? works fine for me
[06:03] <jim_p> outbackwifi: i am on linux now. time is 8.00 am. if i reboot now , it will write 6.00 on the bios and win will boot at 6.00 am! i had that very same problem on the desktop pc whick i solved with the procedure described above and it simply works now! why cant it work on the laptop?
[06:03] <WStraus> outbackwifi: I do respect the rules of volunteers, I was simply asking if I was in the wrong place.. I love the whole Ubuntu community and would never ask for more then they have allready given me.
[06:04] <strAlan> if you type "sudo parted -l" it says invalid option -l and brings up the parted command prompt
[06:04] <outbackwifi> WStraus: tx for that; you could try asking in the java channels too
[06:04] <Flannel> jim_p: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple%20Boot%20Systems%20Time%20Conflicts
[06:04] <rww> strAlan: huh. it gives me basically the same info as fdisk -l. I'm running intrepid, though; maybe it's a new thing.
[06:05] <outbackwifi> jim_p: i havent personally experienced this tho i have xp+ubuntu on a laptop; so cant think  of a solution
[06:05] <strAlan> rww, no, you're confusing parted w/ fdsik - fdisk displays immediate output, parted is a new prompt
[06:05] <outbackwifi> jim_p: but im curious about the writing to bios part; why does it do that?
[06:05] <WStraus> outbackwifi: but still no luv the sudo did not work
[06:05] <Flannel> outbackwifi: because it updates the hardware clock.  See the link I have jim_p for various workarounds
[06:06] <jim_p> Flannel: this is about ntp, i know how to use ntp. the problem is somewhere else
[06:06] <outbackwifi> WStraus: it could be a security policy issue
[06:06] <strAlan> rww, I think you mean  "i" not "l" - please specify these the next time you make claims
[06:06] <rww> strAlan: http://pastebin.com/d3d5819fb
[06:06] <outbackwifi> Flannel: i understand that part; but im curious to know why it updates the incorrect time
[06:06] <antprincess> hey
[06:07] <strAlan> sorry rww i don't feel like getting a virus tonight nice try
[06:07] <antprincess> anybody wanna chat
[06:07] <chameleon> does anyone know the command for listing what hard drives are connected at the command prompt
[06:07] <outbackwifi> !girls | antprincess
[06:07] <Flannel> outbackwifi: because he's got an offset of 2 hours, so Linux updates the clock to UTC, and then windows always assumes its localtime.
[06:07] <Flannel> antprincess: #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to go to chat, not here.
[06:07] <strAlan> outbackwifi, I think that's really rude of you
[06:07] <e-frame> chameleon: lshw
[06:07] <WStraus> outbackwifi: I don" know a whole lot about security policies, aside from file permissions
[06:08] <rww> strAlan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/63947/ , then?
[06:08] <Flannel> strAlan: Its not a virus, its a pastebin.
[06:08] <outbackwifi> Flannel: isnt that because he is on two different time zones on the two OSs?
[06:08] <strAlan> I've seen these types of tricks before
[06:08] <droopsta915> How can I get back into the GUI after using ctrl-alt-F1?
[06:08] <outbackwifi> strAlan: i will ignore that comment
[06:08] <Flannel> outbackwifi: No, its because windows assumes localtime, Linux assumes UTC.  If jim_p would read the link I gave him, he'd see that.
[06:08] <dr_willis>  chameleon     sudo fdisk -l, will show all attached filesystems  - or at least is should
[06:08] <outbackwifi> droopsta915: ctl+alt+f7
[06:08] <Flannel> droopsta915: ctrl-alt-f7
[06:08] <WIGGMPk> strAlan: pastebin is widly used in this channel to prevent spamming/flooding
[06:08] <e-frame> chameleon: for hdd try fdisk -l
[06:08] <WIGGMPk> strAlan: widely
[06:08] <chameleon> how do i use lshw and make it display one page at a time
[06:08] <strAlan> i'm leaving this channel
[06:09] <droopsta915> thanks
[06:09] <Flannel> chameleon: lshw | less
[06:10] <jim_p> Flannel: i did this part on the desktop pc and on the laptop as well yesterday. the laptop still gets left behing. i did it on the pc in early March. (i mean for the part that says Make Linux use 'Local' time)
[06:10] <outbackwifi> chameleon: or you can redirect it to a text file and read it at leisure
[06:10] <darkbishop> hello ya all
[06:11] <rww> Hi darkbishop!
[06:11] <outbackwifi> !hi darkbishop
[06:11] <outbackwifi> argh
[06:11] <dorobo18jp> are there any good resourses that i can read to make my desk top[ 3d
[06:11] <WStraus> Anyone else got any ideas about my problem. It's not critical but It would be nice if it worked.
[06:11] <darkbishop> i got problem with my wnic... its said "failed on device mon0; no such device".. wat tats suppose to mean
[06:11] <chameleon> how do identify what ubuntu server has named a hard drive as when it has just been connected so i can mount it
[06:12] <darkbishop> !b43
[06:12] <rww> !cube | dorobo18jp
[06:12] <outbackwifi> darkbishop: it probably means that you are not able to put your wireless card in monitor mode
[06:12] <outbackwifi> chameleon: the last few lines of dmesg (after you connect the drive) show that
[06:13] <chameleon> what is dmesg
[06:13] <darkbishop> yeah tats suppose tu mean that...but at the end of the phase its said (monitor mode enable on mon0)
[06:13] <outbackwifi> chameleon: if its an external drive; else sudo fdisk -l should tell you
[06:13] <chameleon> now its an internal sata drive
[06:13] <jim_p> Flannel, outbackwifi ... any more ideas ?
[06:13] <outbackwifi> chameleon: did you create a new partition and fs on that?
[06:13] <rww> chameleon: it's a program that displays kernel output. Type dmesg at a Terminal.
[06:14] <Ishnu-> I am having a problem with my Ubuntu 8.04 - every now and then (it has happened 4 times in the last week and a half), the screen just goes black, shows some text about running boot scripts, then asks me to log in again (when I log in, all the windows from my previous session are gone).
[06:14] <chameleon> no i dont want to partition it its already partitioned, i justr want to mount it and i need its correct name
[06:14] <Ishnu-> It seems to just happen at random times - once when I was reading a manual in the terminal, once when I was typing in openoffice word
[06:14] <outbackwifi> jim_p: can you make windows also use UTC as outlined in that link?
[06:15] <outbackwifi> chameleon: can you pastebin your sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:15] <chameleon> im not understanding you
[06:15] <chameleon> i did run fdisk and it didnt tell me what i need to know
[06:15] <outbackwifi> Ishnu-: thats your X server crashing and restarting (in the interim you see the boot screen)
[06:16] <Ishnu-> And how can I fix that?
[06:16] <jim_p> outbackwifi: well i dont want them to use something "external" to sync themselves, like ntp. i want them to use sync themselves FROM bios like the desktop pc does
[06:16] <outbackwifi> chameleon: paste the output of sudo fdisk -l in a place called paste.ubuntu.com; i will take a look at it and try to help you
[06:17] <rww> !pastebin | chameleon
[06:17] <chameleon> it cant be this hard, there must be command that lists what drives are connected and there drive names
[06:17] <outbackwifi> jim_p: that is like the chicken and egg story; you have the OSs updating the bios clock and also want to sync them from it;
[06:17] <Jordan_U> Ishnu-: You need to find out what is causing the X server to crash, a common culprit is compiz. Try looking in your  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:17] <chameleon> linux cant be that tupid
[06:17] <Ishnu-> ok
[06:17] <chameleon> linux cant be that stupid
[06:17] <outbackwifi> chameleon: its us who are; its just an OS
[06:17] <sekyourbox> When I press the up arrow in bash instead of getting the previous command, i get  "^[[A
[06:17] <Flannel> chameleon: sudo fdisk -l, sudo blkid
[06:18] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: You are probably not using bash but rather dash ( sh != bash )
[06:18] <Ishnu-> What should I look for in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:18] <darkbishop> yeah i think fisk -l should give what he want tho
[06:18] <chameleon> flannel : what will the secind command do
[06:18] <Flannel> chameleon: list all the UUIDs
[06:19] <Jordan_U> Ishnu-: Lines starting with "EE" in them I believe but I am not sure
[06:19] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, hwo do i get out of dash and back to bash?
[06:19] <chameleon> lets start again
[06:19] <outbackwifi> chameleon: you are making it very difficult for us to help you; can you just paste the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: Run "bash"
[06:19] <chameleon> i have a second hard drive already partitioned and i want to mount it
[06:19] <chameleon> its a sata drive
[06:19] <jeezyme> hi, will ubuntu work fine on a P3 machine?
[06:19] <jim_p> outbackwifi: well i dont mind them not to use ntp! i DO mind if they mess bios. and in this case, its linux fault
[06:19] <Ishnu-> Jordan_U: Ok, I will try that
[06:19] <chameleon> i want to mount it to /mnt/temp which is a dir i created
[06:20] <jeezyme> or is there some way i can optimize/change the installation so that it works on a P3?
[06:20] <Flannel> chameleon: it's sdb and its partitions are sdbX where X is 1,2,3,...etc
[06:20] <Jordan_U> jeezyme: Depends on how much RAM it has, you might want to go with Xubuntu which is lighter
[06:20] <rww> jeezyme: by P3, do you mean Pentium 3?
[06:20] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, thanks, why isnt it bash by default? because I'm not using the main user acct?
[06:20] <Ishnu-> Jordan_U: There are no lines starting with EE - there are lots of II's, and a few WW's
[06:20] <jeezyme> yeah!
[06:20] <darkbishop> chameleon: just past the output of fdisk -l in the pastebin and we will c wat actually happen
[06:21]  * outbackwifi wonders why its so difficult to convince people to follow instructions; they seem too intent on doing what they think is right
[06:21] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: Bash should be the default login shell, it's just not what you get when you run "sh"
[06:22] <freetown> yo outbackwifi ! I got ubuntu to boot properly at last
[06:22] <chameleon> darkbishop the server is not connected to the net at this stage
[06:22] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, right-click > open terminal on my other user acct puts me in bash
[06:22] <jeezyme> is there any way to install xubuntu from an existing ubuntu installation?
[06:23] <outbackwifi> freetown: congrats; how did that happen?
[06:23] <ziroday> jeezyme: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <jeezyme> thanks!
[06:23] <rww> !xubuntu | jeezyme
[06:23] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: How did you create the other account?
[06:24] <bingungaja> ubuntu application (ex : kopete) is placed in which folder ?
[06:24] <freetown> outbackwifi, well, LiveCD, install lvm2 and mdadm, get them running, stuff grub on mbr and reboot. Not fully fixed yet as the default menu for grub ain't created yet
[06:24] <sekyourbox> add user, I think
[06:24] <outbackwifi> chameleon: have you created a parition and installed a filesystem on this new disk?
[06:24] <ziroday> bingungaja: you mean the source code?
[06:24] <outbackwifi> freetown: thats fantastic
[06:24] <Jordan_U> bingungaja: which <command> will give you the full path to any command
[06:24] <Ishnu-> What will happen if I run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop from Ubuntu?
[06:24] <freetown> outbackwifi, the installer is really iffy when it comes to lvm on raid i think
[06:25] <outbackwifi> freetown: i guess so too
[06:25] <ziroday> Ishnu-: it will install the xfce environment and all the xubuntu apps
[06:25] <Ishnu-> And then will that replace my normal Ubuntu?
[06:25] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, the one that starts in bash was setup using the initial setup utility for ubuntu
[06:26] <ziroday> Ishnu-: no, it will be with your normal ubuntu. You will have to remove the gnome ubuntu to just use xubuntu
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Ishnu-: You will get all of the applications which come with Xubuntu ( it will not remove any of your current apps ) you can choose to login to XFCE or Gnome but all of your applications will show up ( and be usable ) in the menus for both
[06:26] <outbackwifi> Ishnu-: no, it will give you one more window manager in the sessions list
[06:26] <Ishnu-> Ok cool!
[06:26] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: And the one that starts in dash ?
[06:26] <bingungaja> zidogay : not source code, the application file (sorry not familiar with linux, for example in windows, winamp application is placed in folder my computer/system/ and so on and so on)
[06:26] <Ishnu-> Sounds like fun!
[06:26] <Ishnu-> What about Edubuntu?
[06:26] <Ishnu-> Can you do the same?
[06:26] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, no bash
[06:26] <Ishnu-> edubuntu-desktop?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ishnu-: Yes
[06:27] <Ishnu-> Mad.
[06:27] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, the one im in now starts with sh  $
[06:27] <freetown> say outbackwifi have you tried a multiseat setup?
[06:27] <bingungaja> jordan_u : what do u mean
[06:27] <outbackwifi> freetown: cant say i have.
[06:28] <Jordan_U> bingungaja: If you open a terminal and run "which <command>" it will print the full path to <command>
[06:28] <bingungaja> jordan-U : ok ok, i notice, thx a lot
[06:28] <jim_p> !timezone
[06:28] <outbackwifi> freetown: do you mean like kickstart?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> sekyourbox: I mean how did you create it?
[06:28] <ziroday> bingungaja: that can be different for every program, you can see where it installs all the files by doing dpkg -L <programname>
[06:28] <freetown> outbackwifi, okay. i just remembered that this is Linux and not Windows and you should be able to get two - four persons using the thing at the same time with their own sessions
[06:28] <bingungaja> ziroday : problem solved, thx alot :)
[06:28] <outbackwifi> freetown: cheers
[06:28] <doc|home> I have an intel graphics chip on a dell xps m1330, is cube rotation/compiz impossible on that?
[06:28] <sekyourbox> Jordan_U, using adduser command
[06:29] <ziroday> doc|home: it is possible
[06:29] <doc|home> ok, thanks
[06:29] <dan94827> i love UBUNTU!
[06:30] <djhash> does anyone know what each column represents when typing "ps ax"
[06:30] <supertanker> XFMedia complains that my audio device is unavaliable, and so do my other media players, when I run Flash in a web brwoser with sound
[06:30] <supertanker> Any ideas?
[06:31] <dr_willis> djhash,  i think 'man ps' may tell you taht.
[06:31] <Flannel> djhash: ps ax | less
[06:31] <Flannel> djhash: then read the top row, where they're labelled
[06:31] <dr_willis> djhash,   PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND
[06:31] <djhash> ignore that
[06:31] <dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> unless you are asking what PID/Stat/ and so forthmean
[06:31] <djhash> yeah.. i just realised i didnt get the headings when i piped to grep.. DUH!!!
[06:32] <dr_willis> djhash,  im still not 100% on all the info in the Stat colum. :)
[06:33] <sekyourbox> ...dash is also the default /bin/sh in Ubuntu, but with my first user acct bash was always der
[06:33] <djhash> stat is least of my worries.. i'm trying to trouble shoot why when a certain script is run in the terminal.. behaves differently when run by a program..
[06:33] <ivan__> LOPLOL\\
[06:34] <Guest51418> clear
[06:34] <dr_willis> djhash,  be sure its getting ran by bash/using bash instead of sh for starters.  Seen that issue befor.
[06:34] <sekyourbox> Does anyone know how to enable the right-click open in terminal without doing sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-termina
[06:34] <Flannel> sekyourbox: Whats wrong with nautilus-open-terminal?
[06:35] <error404notfound> I have 2 users. I have postfix all setup, fine and working. I want to read user2's email in my evolution/thunderbird. I can do a su user2 and run mutt, but I want to read it along with other emails within my desktop application. There are many emails in user2's Maildir and mutt shows them. I have created a new account in evolution, set its email to user2@localhost and changed permissiom to a+rwx on /home/user2/Maildir. But I can't read
[06:35] <sekyourbox> flannel, I dont think thats what I did with my other user acct.  but i guess ill install it anyway.
[06:35] <raevol> has anyone used the minimal cd to install to an sata drive?
[06:36] <Flannel> sekyourbox: Once you install it, it'll be available for all users
[06:36] <dan94827> holy mother of George! They are offering crossover for free just today!!!! omg omg
[06:36] <Flannel> djhash: Please take it elsewhere.
[06:36] <Flannel> er, dan94827
[06:36] <dan94827> ?
[06:36] <pdlnhrd1> can anyone help with getting dual head display working... i have dual ati cards (not trying to use crossfire)
[06:36] <Flannel> dan94827: this channel is for support, not chatting.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting.
[06:37] <dan94827> oops sorry
[06:37] <dan94827> :)
[06:37] <raevol> can anyone help me install to an sata drive from the minimal cd: i need to know which driver to pick while installing
[06:37] <outbackwifi> raevol: sata drives are common these days and well supported; are you running into any installation issues?
[06:38] <raevol> outbackwifi, its not detecting my sata drive
[06:38] <outbackwifi> raevol: what is your configuration?
[06:38] <sekyourbox> so everyone here gets $, when they right-click > open terminal?
[06:38] <raevol> outbackwifi k8t800 motherboard with a seagate sata drive
[06:38] <outbackwifi> on gnome yes
[06:39] <ThersiT> anyone played with the finger scaner on a lenovo 3000?
[06:39] <paranoid_ndroid> hello, I'd like to undelete a file with no extension, how can i do this?
[06:39] <natalisushka> Hi, I've got a problem with my sound. Everytime I start some web sound (flash or something) I loose normal sound in my system, that I can't play music from the hard disk. What can I do to solve this?
[06:39] <ieldib> raevol,  I used to have that same problem with a K8T800 chipset board i had
[06:39] <darkbishop> what should i use to c if there is any wireless network avalible around me?
[06:39] <ieldib> i just had to switch SATA mode to raid
[06:39] <ieldib> it was undetectable otherwise
[06:40] <Flannel> paranoid_ndroid: rm /path/to/file
[06:40] <raevol> ieldib i have the option for SATA Raid ROM enabled, should i disable it?
[06:40] <Flannel> paranoid_ndroid: oh, undelete?  did you rm it? or put it in the trash?
[06:40] <outbackwifi> darkbishop: network manager shows all available networks (on CLI use sudo iwlist iface-name scanning)
[06:40] <Oric> cwillu
[06:40] <Oric> ^^
[06:40] <cwillu> that was weird
[06:40] <philsf> how can I make nautilus unmount a fuse virtual fs I created? I can umount it manually with fusermount -u mnt, but nautilus complains I'm not root, and the mount point isn't in fstab. I'd like nautilus to handle this mount similarly to how it handles removable media
[06:40] <ieldib> outbackwifi,  i never had that option
[06:40] <ieldib> try disabling it
[06:41] <paranoid_ndroid> Flannel, I've deleted the .trash folder
[06:41] <Flannel> paranoid_ndroid: with rm?
[06:41] <paranoid_ndroid> I need to recover the file
[06:41]  * cwillu pokes Oric with a stick
[06:41] <darkbishop> outbackwifi: thxxx tats work
[06:41] <paranoid_ndroid> with nautilus
[06:41] <outbackwifi> darkbishop: tw
[06:41] <rww_> !undelete | paranoid_ndroid
[06:41] <dr_willis> philsf,  i was thinking the fuse tools/docs discussed this..  some sort of group/permissions  to allow users to unmount all fuse type mounts.
[06:41] <stahlstift> Good Morning! Can someone give me an hint which server forgets the dirlock? for 8.10 ? :)
[06:42] <Flannel> stahlstift: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[06:42] <paranoid_ndroid> it's on a fat32 partition
[06:42] <outbackwifi> paranoid_ndroid: your ubuntu trash is on a  fat32 partition?
[06:42] <natalisushka> Hi, I've got a problem with my sound. Everytime I start some web sound (flash or something) I loose normal sound in my system, that I can't play music from the hard disk. What can I do to solve this?
[06:42] <paranoid_ndroid> I've deleted the files from a fat32 part.
[06:42] <raevol> ieldib ah well that boot was different, maybe that worked
[06:43] <paranoid_ndroid> with nautilus
[06:43] <paranoid_ndroid> then deleted the .trash folder created on that partition
[06:43] <outbackwifi> natalisushka: do you want sounds coming from both the web app and music?
[06:43] <paolo_c> exit
[06:43] <natalisushka> outbackwifi, that would be sweet
[06:43] <ieldib> raevol... hopefully so I never had issues with any hardware on a old K8T800 board i had
[06:43] <paolo_c> quit
[06:43] <ieldib> or any via board for that matter
[06:43] <philsf> dr_willis: I was thinking I needed to do something with nautilus itself, since the fuse part is solved, am I missing somehting?
[06:43] <raevol> ieldib i cant get winxp to install, but screw it
[06:44] <dr_willis> philsf,  no idea ont hat - i perfer to use rox-filer. :) i tend to mount/unmount fuse things from terminal/scripts
[06:44] <ieldib> I am still shocked that my relatively new 790GX motherboard  works out of the box
[06:44] <outbackwifi> natalisushka: cant think of a way to do that unless threaded through a sound server like esd
[06:44] <ieldib> all i needed to do was enable restricted drivers
[06:44] <raevol> ieldib what manufacturer?
[06:44] <ieldib> yeah screw Windows/XP or not
[06:44] <ieldib> Gigabyte
[06:44] <natalisushka> outbackwifi, what is esd?
[06:44] <raevol> huh cool
[06:44] <outbackwifi> !esd | natalisushka
[06:44] <ieldib> even the HDMI port works
[06:44] <ieldib> as well as the optical audio
[06:44] <raevol> wow nice
[06:44] <ieldib> yeah
[06:45] <natalisushka> outbackwifi, it's deprectated, and I do use alsa :)
[06:45] <macvr> hi all... is anyone using the DUST theme?
[06:45] <ieldib> ATi drivers seem to have improved significantly
[06:45] <raevol> hehe woot for open source
[06:45] <outbackwifi> natalisushka: sure but thats what you're already using (or pulseaudio)
[06:45] <ieldib> yeah... i am using the fglrx drivers (from AMD/ATi) lol so that is the only aspect that isn't
[06:45] <rww_> paranoid_ndroid: if ubuntu has fsck.vfat (not on an ubuntu system right now, so I can't check), try sudo fsck.vfat -vru /path/to/deleted/file /place/to/put/file
[06:45] <paolo_c> yeah i am using dust
[06:45] <darkbishop> how do i install openoffice3?
[06:45] <raevol> i see
[06:45] <ieldib> it's been a rock solid board too... i'd recommend this board to anyone build a linux workstation
[06:46] <sekyourbox> I hate ATI's little startup thingy.  And nvidias for that matter
[06:46] <ieldib> dakbishop it should already be installed by default
[06:46] <ieldib> you can install it via add/remove programs
[06:46] <ieldib> sekyourbox,  I don't get that splash screen
[06:46] <macvr> paolo_c: i ran the Dust_compiz_settings.sh script... but i dont like the non transparent effect ... how do i revert the effect?
[06:46]  * outbackwifi not oo3 surely
[06:46] <natalisushka> outbackwifi, I have pulseaudio and alsa installed
[06:46] <dan94827> huh...ooo3 is not installed by default in 8.04
[06:46] <raevol> it's still not detecting it....
[06:46] <ieldib> ahh nvm sorry overread your question
[06:46] <paolo_c> if your are talking about the nvidia splash i think you can disable that in the nvidia-settings
[06:47] <Jordan_U> darkbishop: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:47] <dan94827> darkbishop: what version of ubuntu?
[06:47] <dan94827> lol
[06:47] <darkbishop> jordan_u: 8.04
[06:47] <dan94827> tombuntu knows
[06:47] <dan94827> wait a sec
[06:47] <outbackwifi> natalisushka: check out documentation here --> http://www.pulseaudio.org/ it will let you mix sound
[06:48] <darkbishop> and the openoffice is 2.4 currenty... already run apt-get update and upgrade
[06:48] <Flannel> darkbishop: That's correct.  No Ubuntu currently has OOo3.  It'll likely be in backports for Intrepid and maybe Hardy once Jaunty opens.
[06:48] <philsf> natalisushka: try uninstalling pulseaudio. this is a major known bug
[06:48] <rww_> darkbishop: 3.0 isn't available in intrepid or hardy yet. You could try the unofficial instructions at http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/14/install-openofficeorg-30-in-ubuntu-804-and-810/ maybe
[06:48] <Flannel> darkbishop: There are, however, PPAs for it right now.
[06:48] <dan94827> darkbishop here :http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/14/install-openofficeorg-30-in-ubuntu-804-and-810/
[06:49] <paranoid_ndroid> rww_, it gave me this
[06:49] <macvr>  paolo_c: i ran the Dust_compiz_settings.sh script... but i dont like the non transparent effect ... how do i revert the effect?
[06:49] <paranoid_ndroid> dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[06:49] <paranoid_ndroid> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[06:49] <paranoid_ndroid> open /home/ze:Is a directory
[06:49] <philsf> natalisushka: actually, bfore removing pulseaudio, try upgrading flash to v10, it's now available in ubuntu's repositories
[06:49] <outbackwifi> paranoid_ndroid: pastebin please
[06:49] <darkbishop> thx eveyone.... lemme try it 1st
[06:49] <paranoid_ndroid> /home/ze was the place to put the file
[06:50] <macvr>  hi all... is anyone using the DUST theme? i ran the Dust_compiz_settings.sh script... but i dont like the non transparent effect ... how do i revert the effect?
[06:50] <rww_> paranoid_ndroid: try being specific, e.g. telling it /home/ze/filename.ext rather than /home/ze/
[06:50] <natalisushka> philsf, After removing pulseaudio, what shall i do?
[06:50] <paranoid_ndroid> the file has no extension...that's why I can't use foremost, neither carver, neither photorec, etc
[06:50] <Blaenk> hey how can I change the owner of a directory recursively?
[06:50] <Blaenk> chown -R myuser thedir/ ?
[06:51] <justin_> if I have windows computers on the same network as my ubuntu, how do I see them across the network? they arent showing up. and if they arent showing up, is it possible for me to access them anyways?
[06:51] <raevol> ieldib, any other ideas? still not working
[06:51] <natalisushka> philsf, Are you talking about flashplugin-nonfree ??
[06:51] <paranoid_ndroid> rww_ it gives me the same output, only saying there is no such file in destination
[06:51] <paolo_c> you can see the samba share with samba
[06:51] <Jordan_U> justin_: Places > Network
[06:51] <paolo_c> ..sorry window shares
[06:52] <badfish69> how do i change window border color in gnome?
[06:52] <outbackwifi> !samba | justin_
[06:52] <justin_> Jordan_U: Yes, and in there you can open windows networks. However they arent showing up, so my question was can i connect to them if they dont show up. or better yet, if they dont want to be seen?
[06:53] <outbackwifi> justin_: do  you mean like firewall protected?
[06:53] <justin_> yes
[06:53] <justin_> outbackwifi:  yes
[06:54] <outbackwifi> justin_:  now that would not be legal and ethical would it? if i dont want you to see my shares, i would expect you to respect that
[06:54] <justin_> on my home network im behind a firewall, and so if my fathers computer
[06:54] <rww_> paranoid_ndroid: sorry, it appears I misread the man page. Looks like it's just fsck.vfat -vru /path/to/deleted/file. I assume that the file ends up where it was originally or maybe in the current directory
[06:54] <rww_> paranoid_ndroid: I have to go, though, so examine man fsck.vfat if that doesn't work
[06:54] <macvr>  hi all... is anyone using the DUST theme? i ran the Dust_compiz_settings.sh script... but i dont like the non transparent effect ... how do i revert the effect?
[06:54] <justin_> outbackwifi:  depends on how you look at it. if I was trying to harm my dads computer then yes, rather than just connect to it
[06:55] <paranoid_ndroid> thanks rww_!
[06:55] <rww_> paranoid_ndroid: you're welcome! hope you get it figured out :)
[06:56] <elvis123> how do i format my drives for a raid 5 on 7.10 because all the tutorials online is just crap?
[06:56] <outbackwifi> justin_: the solution to that is to explicitly allow sharing in your father's computer, which would presumably  create exceptions in his firewall and let you connect
[06:56] <mo4> hey anyone have a problem listening to the audio on youtube videos? I can see the video but the audio is not working i had this problem before im using a logitech usb 250
[06:56] <justin_> so its not actually a operating system problem, yet a firewall problem
[06:57] <Oric> guys,is any good drivers for ati now?
[06:57] <justin_> outbackwifi:  sorry i keep forgetting to use the tab command for your name lol
[06:57] <outbackwifi> mo4: is that a usb speaker? you probably need to select it as the output device in preferences
[06:57] <mo4> outbackwifi: its a headset
[06:57] <outbackwifi> justin_: np
[06:58] <mo4> mo4: It works perfectly on all the other stuff just not youtube videos
[06:58] <ror_newb> is there a way to forward OpenGL apps?
[06:58] <justin_> outbackwifi:  how do i find out my own network address? iwconfig doesnt show my ip adress
[06:58] <ror_newb> or does X forwarding only forward basic apps?
[06:58] <outbackwifi> justin_: ifconfig is your friend
[06:58] <justin_> k
[06:59] <Oric> guys,is there any suitable drivers of ati for 8.1 now?
[06:59] <mo4> outbackwifi:  its just weird that it works on all but youtube videos
[06:59] <ieldib> raevol, nothing else i can think of
[06:59] <ieldib> it should work out of the box
[06:59] <outbackwifi> mo4: it probably doesnt work on any flash enabled site ")
[06:59] <ieldib> unless it's using some weird controller
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Oric: If you consider fglrx suitable :)
[06:59] <mo4> outbackwifi: i installed the noflash flash but it does the same
[07:00] <raevol> ieldib should my bootable add-in device be "pci slot device" or "onchip sata raid"?
[07:00] <outbackwifi> mo4: does it work with your  regular speakers?
[07:00] <mo4> outbackwifi: i didnt try i only have a headset
[07:00] <natalisushka> philsf, Are you talking about flashplugin-nonfree ??
[07:01] <mo4> outbackwifi: i rember trying to install other flash and it worked
[07:01] <outbackwifi> mo4: so it works now?
[07:01] <mo4> outbackwifi: no it doesn't
[07:01] <WIGGMPk> Anyone using the "wl" driver for a Broadcom wireless chipset?? Im having a strange signal strength issue. Constantly drops and comes back but doesnt interrupt network activity that I can tell
[07:01] <mo4> outbackwifi: its something to do with the flash for sure the adobe one for ubunutu doesnt work
[07:02] <outbackwifi> mo4: did you try flash10? its just out
[07:02] <mo4> outbackwifi: ya i did same thing
[07:02] <JulioNeto> humm
[07:02] <JulioNeto> flash?
[07:03] <JulioNeto> 10?
[07:03] <mo4> ya
[07:03] <JulioNeto> humm
[07:03] <mo4> outbackwifi: u know the name of the other flash
[07:03] <outbackwifi> mo4: sorry; cant think of a reason; can you right click on the video and enable access to your system (havent seen a speaker there, only mic, camera etc)
[07:03] <outbackwifi> mo4: what other flash?
[07:04] <outbackwifi> !flash | mo4
[07:04] <outbackwifi> !gnash
[07:04] <JulioNeto> mo4, I don't get your problem... maybe it can help you: sudo update-alternatives --set xulrunner-addons-flashplugin  /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[07:04] <JulioNeto> good luck :)
[07:04] <outbackwifi> mo4: is that the one?
[07:04] <mo4> ya
[07:04] <mo4> gnash
[07:05] <ce_> hai
[07:06] <justin_> outbackwifi:  sorry another question. Im pinging my desktop from my laptop (desktop is vista with no firewall) and it is not pinging it. however pinging my laptop from my desktop it is pinging correctly
[07:06] <pronoy> outbackwifi: to learn linux programming what all languages do you need to know ?
[07:06] <Saruji> c+
[07:07] <outbackwifi> justin_: not familiar with Vista but i remember all the windows have some sort of in-built firewall which prevent icmp replies (you might need to enable it somewhere)
[07:07] <dr_willis> of course if you can learn C+ then the other support languages like perl/python/bash scripting.. should be trivial tolearn. :)
[07:07] <axscode> how to check DBUS or HAL is running, and how to turn them on?
[07:07] <justin_> outbackwifi:  yes vista does have a built in firewall however i do have it disabled. I will look around
[07:07] <sekyourbox> I would like to learn C+. is that better than c++?
[07:08] <sekyourbox> that must be some "Turbo" language?
[07:08] <outbackwifi> pronoy: if its the kernel C, if its gnome gtk, if its kde qt, if its web based its php, python, ruby, ajax, java your/favorite/language
[07:08] <axscode> sekyourbox: almost same, though different libraries
[07:08] <dr_willis> or people just abbreviate c++ to be C+ :)
[07:08] <sekyourbox> lol
[07:08] <pronoy> outbackwifi: qt and gnome gtk then :) thanks man
[07:08] <dr_willis> C is the one language ive never really learned.. i can read/understand the code a little.. but i juat have never had the need to use it myself.
[07:08] <Saruji> hello
[07:09] <lakitu3> ok, i think i got a virus, i was playing around in windows, & then when i rebooted i couldn't use my keyboard at the GRUB, now after a few more reboots, gparted shows sda as "unallocated": is that data lost?? or is it recoverable
[07:09] <sekyourbox> I cant get beyond my ASCII snake game
[07:09] <CaptainMorgan> anybody good with Raid 1 (software) ? I setup it and got it working successfully, using two 1 TB's hdds.  When it's all said and done, I go to test it by simulating a failed drive - I simply disconnect the SATA lead, cat /proc/mdstat shows [_U] correctly, but then the system freezes and locks up becoming unrecoverable... I have to hard reboot
[07:09] <dr_willis> lakitu3,  sounds more like  a hardware issue to me...
[07:09] <dr_willis> lakitu3,  unless the virus whipped out the hd.
[07:09] <CaptainMorgan> why didn't it work? I thought if it the hdd was disconnected, my system should continue to run without issue
[07:09] <outbackwifi> lakitu3: and smoked your keyboard
[07:10] <Saruji> hey everybody has 8.10 stable been release yet or am I early?
[07:10] <outbackwifi> !intrepid | Saruji
[07:10] <Flannel> Saruji: Not yet.  #ubuntu-release-party
[07:10] <dr_willis> Saruji,  its getting mirrored to the mirrors i  think as we speak... so i would still wait. :)
[07:10] <ogzy> hi, although i change my keyboard layout to Turkish from keyboard layout UI, it is still Engilish, how can i change it?
[07:10] <lakitu3> could gparted show it unallocated, but really it's just got a fixable problem?
[07:10] <Saruji> thank you
[07:10] <mo4> outbackwifi: im trying the reinstall of flash 10
[07:11] <outbackwifi> mo4: ok
[07:11] <CaptainMorgan> I couldn't even boot to a single hdd... I reconnected the SATA lead and then got an Error 18, so I reinstalled Grub and then everything was fine again - booted successfully, got into the Desktop and opened a terminal and ran cat /proc/mdstat again which correctly showed [UU]
[07:11] <ThersiT> Damn, I'm tring to install this program called FPrint to use my fingerprint scaner on my laptop but, I cant seem to find it any where..
[07:11] <CaptainMorgan> ThersiT, what brand or make of laptop?
[07:11] <Saruji> I have a question is it best to run Kubuntu for software like Amarok
[07:11] <Saruji> ?
[07:12] <Saruji> since Amarok is KDE based right?
[07:12] <dr_willis> Saruji,  use what you like..   I mixx and match gnome+kde apps all the time.
[07:12] <ThersiT> CaptainMorgan: It's a Lenovo 3000 N200
[07:12] <mo4> outbackwifi: same thing just video working no audio output
[07:12] <CaptainMorgan> not neccessarily Saruji I run Amarok just fine in Gnome... well, maybe sometimes it crashes... but no big deal, just quit it and restart it... doens't happen too often though
[07:12] <Lokian> anyone know if ubuntu has a program similar to mac's text-to-screen program? It allows you type type some text and than it blows it up on screen
[07:12] <Flannel> Saruji: It doesn't matter.  You'll just have both libraries resident in memory at a time.
[07:12] <ogzy> Saruji, it can also work on Gnome but it is a well known KDE application
[07:13] <lakitu3> so, any guru advice? black blinking screen, gparted says "unallocated" for the disk - any chance of repaing?
[07:13] <CaptainMorgan> ThersiT, tried ThinkWiki.com ? I tried a solution from there... got it to work, but I just found it unnecessary... also seemed like too much work to get going.. I'm running a T61..
[07:13] <mo4> outbackwifi: what should the sound capture be set too
[07:13] <lakitu3> black cursor blinking screen, i should say
[07:13] <mo4> outbackwifi: its on ALSA
[07:14] <lakitu3> do i need to do something with the partition tables or master boot record?
[07:14] <CaptainMorgan> lakitu3, try a live cd ?
[07:14] <lakitu3> i am in a live cd now, yes
[07:14] <lakitu3> that's how i used gparted
[07:14] <jim_p> and we back on track
[07:14] <ThersiT> CaptainMorgan: I think I have looked at ThinkWiki I've been googleing it all night
[07:15] <Saruji> does amarok run better on kubuntu vs ubuntu
[07:15] <Saruji> gnome
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> ThersiT, Lenovo might also have a driver... shipping Linux is the norm for them...
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> Saruji, what is your problem?
[07:15] <CaptainMorgan> Saruji, your question was already answered by multiple folks
[07:16] <macvr>  hi all... is anyone using the DUST theme? i ran the Dust_compiz_settings.sh script... but i dont like the non transparent effect ... how do i revert the effect?
[07:16] <dr_willis> Saruji,  i doubt if you will notice much of a differance
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> anybody good with Raid 1 (software) ? I setup it and got it working successfully, using two 1 TB's hdds.  When it's all said and done, I go to test it by simulating a failed drive - I simply disconnect the SATA lead, cat /proc/mdstat shows [_U] correctly, but then the system freezes and locks up becoming unrecoverable... I have to hard reboot
[07:16] <ThersiT> I found some posts that look like they work with fprint but they tell you to install it from a 3rd party respository and I have added it and still can't find the software to install
[07:16] <dr_willis> macvr,  where did this script come from? perhaps its homepage/docs tell how to undo it.. or edit the script and see aht it did and undo it.
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> why didn't it work? I thought if it the hdd was disconnected, my system should continue to run without issue
[07:16] <CaptainMorgan> I couldn't even boot to a single hdd... I reconnected the SATA lead and then got an Error 18, so I reinstalled Grub and then everything was fine again - booted successfully, got into the Desktop and opened a terminal and ran cat /proc/mdstat again which correctly showed [UU]
[07:17] <CaptainMorgan> any ideas?
[07:18] <raevol> sata is shit
[07:18] <jim_p> raevol: why may i ask?
[07:18] <CaptainMorgan> raevol, based on what?
[07:18] <raevol> my brand new sata drive wont work
[07:18] <dr_willis> egads! that proves it!
[07:19]  * dr_willis goes back to MFM drives
[07:19] <jim_p> raevol: what mobo do you have?
[07:19] <macvr> dr_willis: it came along with the theme, as  an option to turn off the compiz transparency... this is the script> http://paste.ubuntu.com/63973/ , could u check it out? i'm just a noob , dont know how to revert the effect
[07:19] <raevol> abit av8 k8t800
[07:19] <rski> i have the same raevol althou, i haven't ever used sata.
[07:20] <lakitu3> so ok, if gparted says a disk is 'unallocated, does that mean it's impossible to fix?
[07:20] <CaptainMorgan> rski, really? it's *generally* faster than IDE
[07:20] <jim_p> raevol: well thats old mobo. try upgrading the bios and use a jumper to set the drive in sata 1 mode in case sata 2 is not recognised by the mobo
[07:20] <lakitu3> 'unallocated'
[07:20] <dr_willis> macvr,  script says -->  echo Usage: $0 [OPTIONS]
[07:20] <dr_willis>      - i would guess ya run the script iwth a # from 0 to 100 to set the level of the effect.. 0 = totally transparent , 100 = no transparent..
[07:20] <lakitu3> impossible to save the data, i mean
[07:21] <rski> CaptainMorgan: not on a ide-drive.
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, familiar with Raid maybe? any idea on my problem?
[07:21] <jim_p> CaptainMorgan: are you on software raid?
[07:21] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[07:21] <Flannel> lakitu3: No.  If it is actually unallocated, it either could be broken (if something formatted it), or just have the partition table broken (it doens't know theres stuff there).  If you remember how big it was, etc, you should be able to fix the partition table, and get whatever datas on there back.
[07:21] <macvr> dr_willis: i just double clicked the .sh file and it set all the things... can i revert it?
[07:22] <dulak> no more  intrepid support for me
[07:22] <jim_p> CaptainMorgan: can you do linux software raid or you have windows somewhere in there?
[07:22] <jim_p> !raid
[07:22] <dr_willis> macvr,  use the shell to run it..
[07:22] <dr_willis> macvr,  dont just double click. :)
[07:22] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, 100% linux... curious why you're referencing the bot...
[07:22] <lakitu3> Flannel, cool, thanks man. do i have to remember the EXACT sizes of the partitions?
[07:23] <jim_p> CaptainMorgan: did you do the software raid the bot says?
[07:23] <macvr> dr_willis: shell? i dont understand...
[07:23] <Flannel> lakitu3: I'm not really sure about the details unfortunately.
[07:23] <lakitu3> Flannel: any links or search terms?
[07:23] <dr_willis> !terminal | macvr
[07:23] <macvr> dr_willis: oh u mean terminal...
[07:24] <dr_willis> Terminal runs a shell. :)
[07:24] <lakitu3> also, since this has been happening, my keyboard DOES NOT work during post boot, it does when it asks if i want to go the BIOS, & it works in the OSs (when i could get to them), but not during e.g. a cd load
[07:24] <Flannel> lakitu3: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Partition-Rescue.html  might help.
[07:24] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, yes, the one from first link looks very familiar... I used the Alt Cd
[07:24] <lakitu3> actually it will *sometimes* listen to ctrl+alt+del
[07:24] <lakitu3> ok, thanks Flannel
[07:25] <lakitu3> there, now it's listening
[07:25] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, after further review.. yep, that's what I did..
[07:25] <macvr> dr_willis: so when i double click i get the option run in terminal... i do it that way or is there some other way?
[07:25] <dr_willis> macvr,  OPEN a terminal, type the command,   ./scriptname
[07:25] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, although, i didn't configure an "update script" tho...
[07:25] <dr_willis> macvr,  it has options you can use to set different things    ./scriptname 100    I think.
[07:26] <prince_jammys> macvr: there's only two ways to run that script: with no options, or with '--fade'
[07:26] <gagita> I lost toolbar in my gnome-terminal, how do I return it ???
[07:26] <dr_willis> prince_jammys,  i though it was parsing a # also.. perhaops i missread it..
[07:27] <prince_jammys> checks only the first arg, and does one thing when it's empty, and another when it's --fade. there's nothing else going on.
[07:27] <macvr> prince_jammys: dr_willis  guys all this is going over my head :(  i have already run the script previously... by clicking execute... now how do i revert the non transperency?
[07:27] <prince_jammys> oh,  and --help
[07:27] <Tybor> Is Dell M6400 supported? It isn't listed anywhere....
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, maybe my system is syncing to some degree when I simulate a failed hdd ? Maybe I should wait longer during the freeze ?
[07:27] <CaptainMorgan> or lock up
[07:28] <Ohmu> what's the liklihood I can port vista's speech engine to ubuntu using wine?
[07:28] <prince_jammys> macvr: i have no idea
[07:28] <Flannel> Ohmu: you want text to speech?
[07:28] <Ohmu> Flannel, no cts speech recog.
[07:29] <dulak> Ohmu: what is cts?
[07:29] <macvr> dr_willis: any ideas?
[07:29] <dr_willis> macvr,  learn linux basics first.. then worry about eye candy
[07:29] <Ohmu> dulak, sorry - continuous
[07:30] <macvr> dr_willis: wow what a suggestion!!!
[07:30] <prince_jammys> (and don't run most shell scripts out there. most suck)
[07:30] <dr_willis> macvr,  delete your various .gnome* directories to reset all settings back to default.. if your eally want.. or play with the ccsm tool and  set up te themes how you like.
[07:30] <dr_willis> macvr,  i dont bother with Compiz or fancy themes any more. I dont bend over backwards for eyecandy. :)
[07:30] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, the update script appears optional.... no? I'm not sure of the need for it... the system is on with a projected 100% timeframe
[07:30] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, you with me or no?
[07:30] <raevol> ieldib, jim_p rski CaptainMorgan got my bios to detect it, think it might work this time thanks
[07:31] <raevol> it was the sata1/2 jumper
[07:31] <macvr> dr_willis: thank you...
[07:31] <lakitu3> Flannel: it says "UNKNOWN" for both filesystems of my HDDs... is that a symptom of some known computer problem?
[07:31] <lakitu3> all of a sudden both have unknown file systems?
[07:31] <spazm> I have a DRAM-memory-chip that I suspect is faulty... what is a good app to "test" the memory if I put it in to see that it is working correctly? some kind of benchmark app?
[07:31] <prince_jammys> macvr: the script messes with gnome's gconf settings, so you might have to do what dr_willis said to revert to normal.
[07:32] <jim_p> raevol: well done
[07:32] <macvr> prince_jammys: ok...
[07:32] <wartalker> i upgrade to 8.10, the sound driver seem ok, but it has no sound, my card is  "Intel Corporation 82801H", why
[07:32] <Flannel> wartalker: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support, thanks
[07:32] <dr_willis> macvr, run the script with the --fade option and it might undo it...
[07:32] <macvr> dr
[07:33] <dr_willis> open a terminal type    ./path/to/the/script --fade
[07:33] <jim_p> CaptainMorgan: i have experienced something similar, but i dont know if its worth mentioning since its not raid but 2 seperate drives with the second one failing during everyday work
[07:33] <macvr> dr_willis: ok
[07:33] <CaptainMorgan> jim_p, no problem, thanks anyways
[07:34] <Ohmu> can I map all of the wierd keys on my keyboard?
[07:35] <dulak> Ohmu: do you have a live chicken and a sharp knife?
[07:35] <jim_p> CaptainMorgan: anyway i mention it. i had 2 drives, one linux one win. and the windows one suddenly failed! linux stopped responding for some time, then it simply unmounted the faulty drive :| these moments though were like eternity to me
[07:35] <macvr> dr_willis: s.. that did it... thank YOU :)
[07:35] <rww> !keys | ohmu
[07:36] <dr_willis> macvr,  now stop just 'clicking on scripts' :)
[07:36] <prince_jammys> macvr: good.
[07:36] <macvr> dr_willis: he he... ok.. :)
[07:37] <prince_jammys> macvr: careful with scripts out there in the internet. most suck. some are (unintentionally) dangerous
[07:37] <dr_willis> that script just set a lot of settings that you could of done with the ccsm tool - it seems...
[07:37] <jim_p> Ohmu: well the only key on my keyboard that does not work is saying "Files" and its supposed to open "my documents" in xp. all the rest like WWW, Email, Volume +, Mute etc work
[07:37] <spazm> I have a DRAM-memory-chip that I suspect is faulty... what is a good app to "test" the memory if I put it in to see that it is working correctly? some kind of benchmark app?
[07:37] <Flannel> spazm: memtest86, select it at your GRUB menu (or from a liveCD)
[07:37] <dr_willis> spazm,  the boot menus for most live cd's hage a memtest option. as does ubuntus default grub
[07:37] <macvr> prince_jammys: it is from the ubuntuwiki site... dust was the propased theme for 8.10... so i didnt worry too much about harm
[07:38] <prince_jammys> macvr: ah, ok.
[07:38] <jim_p> spazm: you can plug it on a system, making sure that its the only stick there, and run a memtest as the guys suggested
[07:38] <dr_willis> macvr,  it dident do any harm.. it just set settings that you culd of set with the CCSM tool
[07:38] <prince_jammys> looked beginnerish. most of that could have been done in a loop
[07:38] <macvr> prince_jammys: since i'm really a beginer!!
[07:39] <spazm> so I can only run it at boot? not manually via console?
[07:39] <dr_willis> spazm,  it runs BEFOR the system boots.. its a special grub command/entry
[07:39] <jim_p> spazm: no, sorry :(
[07:39] <prince_jammys> macvr: well, you can be one. the person distributing the script shouldn't be ;)
[07:39] <dr_willis> spazm,  well it runs runs befor the main os boots. :)
[07:39] <Flannel> spazm: You can run it while Linux is running, but it works better if you do it on its own, since it has access to all of the RAM then.
[07:41] <macvr> prince_jammys: oh... u wer saying about the script... hope he wasnt a beginner too!!! but that was a theme that 8.10 was supposed to roll out with, but i dont knwo why it was scraped! i think tha the script was mainly for beginners
[07:42] <prince_jammys> macvr: well, i'm glad it ended well. what i was basically saying is there's a lot of well-intentioned scripts and tweaks and config stuff floating around in the internet, much of which sucks. happily, this worked out.
[07:43] <macvr> prince_jammys: ya... heard about them... seem even help in the ubuntu forums somethimes have such scripts ... k... will be more carefull
[07:44] <spazm> Flannel: ok, and how do I then know if the memory is faulty or not? where can I see a log of it or how does it work?
[07:44] <Flannel> spazm: it tests all your memory, sequentially.  It'll indicate errors.  Also, it'll run forever if you let it.  So let it go through all the patterns at least once (leave it overnight or something).  then stop it.
[07:44] <Corden> hello guys
[07:45] <Corden> need some help
[07:45] <rww> !ask | Corden
[07:45] <Corden> what's the package name of mantis?
[07:45] <Corden> tnx
[07:45] <Flannel> !info mantis | Corden
[07:45] <prince_jammys> 'mantis'
[07:45] <prince_jammys> hehe
[07:45] <spazm> Flannel: ok, how do I run it manually then?
[07:46] <jaggz1> hoary hedgehog let me enable vnc server from a menu.. how did it do that on the existing running X session??
[07:46] <Rakel> server irc.piraattipuolue.fi
[07:46] <Flannel> spazm: You mean from within Linux?  I've never actually done that.  But likely similarly.
[07:46] <jaggz1> (instead of running a new X session in the netherlands which vncserver dished out)
[07:47] <Corden> ok tnx
[07:48] <spazm> Flannel: but how did you mean I should do it then? :)
[07:48] <Corden> i thougth were using 8.04, but we are using 7.10
[07:48] <Corden> i though it will suggest to me the install keyword
[07:48] <Corden> anyway tnx for the help :D
[07:48] <Flannel> spazm: You should reboot, and select it from yuor boot menu (hit escape after your POST screen, and it'll be at the bottom)
[07:51] <ZeekDaGeek> :D
[07:51] <ZeekDaGeek> I've come with a complicated problem me thinks
[07:51] <Outlander> hi, whtas th go with that report about ubuntu going slower since 7.04?
[07:51] <spazm> Flannel: okok, I'll try.. I'll let it run for a little bit... but, can I have a working chip in there as well? will it test them separately or together?
[07:52] <philsf> how can I make nautilus unmount a fuse virtual fs I created? I can umount it manually with fusermount -u mnt, but nautilus complains I'm not root, and the mount point isn't in fstab. I'd like nautilus to handle this mount similarly to how it handles removable media
[07:52] <spazm> Flannel: I mean, if it comes up with errors, how do I know which chip it is if I have more than one?
[07:52] <Flannel> spazm: It should be able to tell you, yes.
[07:52] <rww> spazm: start removing chips until you stop getting errors
[07:52] <pen> Outlander: i think it is minimal
[07:52] <rww> spazm: or it might tell you which chip is broken. i forget
[07:52] <spazm> ok rww & Flannel
[07:52] <spazm> thanks
[07:53] <Uzzi> hi
[07:53] <rww> Hi Uzzi!
[07:54] <Uzzi> how have Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller?
[07:54] <ZeekDaGeek> Okay, here's my question if anyone can help me: I have Ubuntu right now on a partition of my slaved drive. I'm going to take my slaved drive and move it out into a portible drive housing and use it as a portable drive. Can I disable Grub for now, reinstall it after and have it point to the new location of a portable drive to load off of?
[07:55] <ZeekDaGeek> I think I would only have it temp on a protable drive then move it to a new partition afterwards with DD.
[07:55] <dr_willis> Uzzi,  i have some Marvell NIC.. and it had issues...  lots of dmesg info on errors and stuff.. I think the 8.10 drivers may be better..  I dont recall its exact chipsethowever. I replaced the card  a different brand.
[07:55] <Uzzi> I've 8.10 and I've the same problems
[07:57] <ZeekDaGeek> Anyone?
[07:58] <dan94827> !intrepid
[07:59] <lakitu3> ok, so i tried installing some pirated software. i think i got a virus from it, & now one drive says "unallocated" & the other seems fine. i get the black screen of death (black screen with lone blinking cursor). i am in an ubuntu live cd, & like i say, sdb is intact, but it fails to recognize the other one, & the other one says "unallocated" in gparted. i'm wonder what the proper steps are to save that data
[07:59] <lakitu3> if it's possible
[07:59] <Uzzi> dr_willis, I've 8.10 and I've the same problems
[07:59] <LuYu> is there an easy way to just switch a live USB install to a rewritable system?
[07:59] <dr_willis> Uzzi,  bummer..  Im glad i replkaced that nic..
[08:00] <lakitu3> not ignoring you Flannel, but that how-to wasn't working - at least i didn't know where to use fdisk from (a special boot disc?)
[08:00] <lakitu3> or does ubuntu have it somehow - i couldn't get it to work
[08:00] <S3RiOUS_PP> hgk
[08:00] <Flannel> lakitu3: yeah, an Ubuntu LiveCD.  Well, Ubuntu has it as well, but you're going to want to not touch your harddrive.
[08:00] <ILeK> domino si tu?
[08:00] <Flannel> !sk | ILeK
[08:01] <lakitu3> Flannel: hm, it's not working in gnome terminal
[08:01] <lakitu3> i think
[08:01] <ILeK> serem vam po anglicky vy hovorte po slovensky vy kurvy
[08:01] <lakitu3> fdisk -l  ?
[08:01] <Rasto9090> po anglicky tak ma to nauète :D
[08:01] <S3RiOUS_PP> tulene
[08:01] <Rasto9090> mro¾e :D
[08:02] <ILeK> tlacenky
[08:02] <ZeekDaGeek> Am I lagging, please respond quick so I know I'm not?
[08:02] <rww> ZeekDaGeek: poke
[08:02] <Rasto9090> what men?:D
[08:02] <Flannel> !english | ILeK, S3RiOUS_PP, Rasto9090
[08:02] <ZeekDaGeek> lol okay
[08:02] <ILeK> I am stupid boy
[08:02] <LuYu> hmmm
[08:02] <LuYu> what happened to ping
[08:02] <LuYu> doesnt irc have that anymore?
[08:02] <dr_willis> Pong!
[08:02] <LuYu> B-)
[08:02] <lakitu3> fdisk -l, right Flannel?
[08:03] <Flannel> lakitu3: sudo fdisk -l
[08:03] <raevol> hey just got my cli install done, and apt-get installed xfce4 and gdm, but gdm isn't starting? any reason for this? the text for it shows during boot
[08:03] <Sammy> please help me what the meaning "trap: 43: SIGINT: bad trap
[08:03] <lakitu3> k
[08:03] <ILeK> monkey
[08:03] <ZeekDaGeek> Should I repeat my question?
[08:03] <Rasto9090> dog
[08:03] <Rasto9090> :P
[08:03] <Flannel> ILeK, Rasto9090: Please keep it on topic
[08:03] <ILeK> lakitu3 is monkey
[08:04] <prince_jammys> Sammy: what's giving that error message?
[08:04] <rww> Sammy: do you get that error when trying to run a shell script?
[08:04] <Uzzi> dr_willis, I cannot replace card, I've a laptop
[08:04] <Sammy> yes
[08:04] <prince_jammys> strange, because it would say bash: not trap:
[08:04] <rww> !dash | Sammy
[08:04] <Sammy> how to install SH
[08:05] <prince_jammys> Sammy: what's line 43 of the script?
[08:05] <raevol> hey just got my cli install done, and apt-get installed xfce4 and gdm, but gdm isn't starting? any reason for this? the text for it shows during boot
[08:05] <ILeK> slovak please vy patkane
[08:06] <ZeekDaGeek> I current have Ubuntu installed to a partition on my slaved drive. I'm going to make my Slaved drive into a Portable drive. How can I make this transition smooth. Most inportantly without any GRUB errors?
[08:06] <ILeK> podte pisat po rusky
[08:06] <petererer> raevol: does X start?
[08:06] <prince_jammys> what happens when you do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[08:06] <Sammy> COMMAND_TO_RUN="install --owner=root --group=root --mode=u=rxs,g=x,o=x snx /usr/bin/snx; install --owner=root --group=root --mode=u=rx,g=rx,o=rx snx_uninstall.sh /usr/bin/snx_uninstall; install --directory --owner=root --group=root --mode=u=rwx /etc/snx; install --directory --owner=root --group=root --mode=u=rwx /etc/snx/tmp"
[08:07] <raevol> petererer, just realized x might not be installed, sec
[08:07] <inta> hy
[08:07] <lakitu3> Flannel: phew, it seems to see the cylinders & partitions on sda.. except one of them reads sda1p1
[08:07] <raevol> figured it was a dependency of xfce4
[08:07] <lakitu3> what does that mean
[08:07] <lakitu3> ?
[08:07] <fbe> HI does anyone get the apitest for bluez-4.12 running?  I untared the original bluez-4.12 tarball from bluez.org and start ./apitest GetMode within the test dir. All I get is this Failed to get default device: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "DefaultAdapter" with signature "" on interface "org.bluez.Manager" doesn't exist
[08:07] <prince_jammys> Sammy: what is the very first line of the script?
[08:07] <rww> Sammy: Please try changing the first line of the script from #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash and see if that fixes it
[08:08] <rww> Sammy: as I indicated earlier
[08:08] <Sammy> #!/bin/sh
[08:08] <Sammy> ARCHIVE_OFFSET=85
[08:08] <Sammy> TMP_DIR=/tmp
[08:08] <Sammy> LogEvent()
[08:08] <Sammy> {
[08:08] <Sammy>         echo $3
[08:08] <FloodBot2> Sammy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <raevol> petererer, it doesnt start, and when i do startx it says no vailed FontPath could e found, googling
[08:08] <Sammy> ok <FloodBot2>
[08:08] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." "~$ lspci; 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)" Is snd_i8x0 this ALSA driver?
[08:09] <nico_> hi
[08:09] <rww> Hi nico_!
[08:10] <ZeekDaGeek> rww: Do you think I could PM you my problem and you can try helping me after you're finished with Sammy?
[08:10] <Tyrath> what's the ubuntu hardy repository for vim?
[08:10] <rww> ZeekDaGeek: If you're referring to your slaved -> external problem you posted earlier, I don't know the answer, hence me not replying. Sorry :(
[08:10] <Sammy> root@samsul:/home/syamsul/Desktop# ./snx_install.sh
[08:10] <Flannel> Tyrath: er... main.
[08:10] <Sammy> trap: 43: SIGINT: bad trap
[08:11] <Sammy> pelase help me
[08:11] <Tyrath> Flannel, so why I apt-get upgrade, why doesn't it upgrade vim?
[08:11] <Glitch> Hi! Does anyone here know what the difference between a "bin" and a "rooted bin" is? Thanks! :-)
[08:11] <prince_jammys> Sammy: did you change it to #!/bin/bash ?
[08:11] <Tyrath> why = when
[08:11] <rww> Sammy: did you change the first line of the script from #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash as i've asked twice already?
[08:12] <Flannel> Tyrath: What makes you think its not upgraded?
[08:12] <Tyrath> Flannel: because vim 1.2 is out
[08:12] <Tyrath> Flannel: and I just upgraded
[08:12] <Tyrath> Flannel: and I still have bim 1.1.x
[08:12] <Tyrath> bim = vim
[08:12] <ZeekDaGeek> How about a GRUB install on Windows which I can configure to point to my external hard drive after?
[08:13] <Flannel> Tyrath: That's not how versions work.  With Ubuntu, the major version (non-bugfixes, security stuff) don't change throughout the release.  Hardy will always have the version it shipped with, etc.
[08:13] <Tyrath> Flannel, yes. but you can update the sources.list file
[08:14] <Tyrath> Flannel: I updated the repository with a few things
[08:14] <Tyrath> - for the latest versions
[08:14] <Flannel> Tyrath: Mixing repositories isn't a good idea.  Nor is using third party repositories.
[08:14] <Tyrath> Flannel: I did with wine atleast
[08:14] <Tyrath> Flannel: why's that?
[08:14] <Sammy> thanks all thats working
[08:14] <prince_jammys> Sammy: ubuntu's sh (dash) doesn't understand the trap name SIGINT (has to be INT, or 2). Bash does. The problem should go away once the shebang is #!/bin/bash
[08:14] <raevol> for ther record i needed to install xfonts-base, working now
[08:15] <rww> Sammy: awesome! Glad we could help :)
[08:15] <Tyrath> Flannel: because otherwise I have to go to the site and download the source code like I did with ooffice 3.0
[08:15] <Tyrath> !ubuntu 8.10
[08:15] <Flannel> Tyrath: Third party sources depends on your ability to trust that source, you might have no problem.  But you should still practice discretion.  Mixing repositories is bad because you can run into updates that break the rest of your OS due to dependency versions, etc.
[08:16] <rww> ZeekDaGeek: Not sure. There's a version of grub called grub4win out there somewhere, I think. I'm not too great with grub, though; every time I play with it, things break. So yeah, I'm probably not the person to ask :(
[08:16] <rww> !intrepid | Tyrath
[08:16] <Glitch> hi how do you get an apt?
[08:16] <Learner101> Hello
[08:16] <Glitch> !hello | Learner101
[08:16] <chovy> why do default installs always come with lame shell environemtns?
[08:16] <prince_jammys> Glitch: what do you mean?
[08:17] <Tyrath> Glitch: apt-get install
[08:17] <Glitch> prince_jammys: i need a new apt
[08:17] <Tyrath> Glitch: you put the filename you want to install there
[08:18] <Tyrath> !intrepid ibex hours
[08:18] <Glitch> apt-get install filename?
[08:18] <Flannel> Tyrath: There is no release time.  join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:18] <Tyrath> Glitch: yes. use sudo. so sudo apt-get install filename
[08:18] <Glitch> thx
[08:18] <Tyrath> Glitch: np
[08:18] <prince_jammys> bah, you need to describe your problem in greater detail.
[08:18] <rww> Tyrath: what Flannel said. In addition, if you have questions about Intrepid, we can help you over at #ubuntu+1 :)
[08:18] <Learner101> I loaded 8.04LTS on a machine that could previously run with 7.10 and now it keeps crashing.  I am sure I have enough ram as it is 512mb.  What is going wrong?  Could it be my gfx card which is the ASUS V7100 Pro 32mb??
[08:19] <Tyrath> Flannel: ah k thanks
[08:19] <Glitch> Hi! Will this channel support Ibex tomorrow ?
[08:19] <Flannel> Glitch: Once its released.
[08:19] <tc111> i'm trying to do a 'sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release' but keep receiving "No new release found". i'm running a local repo of hardy and intrepid... am i missing something that i should be mirroring so that the machine sees that there is a devel release available?
[08:19] <Flannel> tc111: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid support
[08:20] <Learner101> The reason I ask the above is because 8.04LTS is running fine on another machine with shared graphics.
[08:20] <tc111> Flannel: isn't it a hardy / repo issue?
[08:20] <Glitch> Hi! How do I force the computer to shut down?
[08:21] <Flannel> tc111: It has to do with upgrading to Intrepid, so I'd ask in +1
[08:21] <ZeekDaGeek> rww: Thanks, for the help. I think I'm going to just uninstall ubuntu and install it again later, I dont have enough content in ubuntu for it to matter.
[08:21] <Learner101> Glitch you hold the power button in for about 5 seconds and it will power down
[08:21] <Flannel> Glitch: sudo shutdown -h now
[08:21] <Glitch> I mean in linux
[08:21] <dr_willis> Unplug it from the wall.. :)
[08:21] <Learner101> Oh right
[08:21] <tc111> Flannel: will do, thank for the quick response
[08:21] <Flannel> Learner101, dr_willis: Please be helpful when helping.
[08:22] <Learner101> I thought I was....hmmm
[08:22] <Glitch> basically i want to bypass the 'sending all processes the term signal' etc
[08:22] <Glitch> i just want the computer to shut down right then and there
[08:23] <Learner101> Can anyone help me at all??
[08:23] <Chris_Britton> if I have my wireless network interface active, how do I switch to my wired interface?
[08:23] <abchirk> Learner101 with what?
[08:24] <abchirk> Chris_Britton with your network manager :)
[08:24] <abchirk> Or u can use wicd.
[08:24] <Chris_Britton> abchirk, there isn't an option for wired network
[08:24] <Learner101> I have compatibility or driver issues I reckon and just don't know where to start.
[08:24] <Chris_Britton> I know it usually says "Wired Network" at the top but it's not there
[08:25] <HeLLRaZoR> alright
[08:25] <HeLLRaZoR> I have a question if someone knows the answer to this maze
[08:25] <HeLLRaZoR> im getting The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[08:25] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." "~$ lspci; 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)" Is snd_intel8x0 this ALSA driver?
[08:25] <HeLLRaZoR> when using the resolution changer tool
[08:26] <Chris_Britton> if I have my wireless network interface active, how do I switch to my wired interface?
[08:27] <abchirk> !patience Chris_Britton
[08:27] <pogztimz> how do i configure clients (hardy) to connect to a server (ubuntu 8.04 server)..
[08:27] <HeLLRaZoR> !patience HeLLRaZoR
[08:27] <bullgard4> Learner101: "Keeps crashing" is no exact description. Please report the relevant dmesg.
[08:27] <badfish69> how do i select cursors individually?
[08:27] <abchirk> !patience > Chris_Britton
[08:27] <badfish69> !cursors
[08:28] <Chris_Britton> hey abchirk
[08:28] <HeLLRaZoR> anyone knows anything about  The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[08:28] <Learner101> Okay the GUI is loading and then it stops working with the mouse still being able to move.
[08:28] <Chris_Britton> instead of feeding me bot messages
[08:28] <abchirk> Chris_Britton I use wicd its easy to switch with this tool
[08:28] <noob-dau> hi
[08:28] <Chris_Britton> about etiquette
[08:28] <netol> hi
[08:28] <abchirk> hi
[08:28] <pogztimz> how do i configure clients (hardy) to connect to a server (ubuntu 8.04 server)..  ? any one pls?
[08:28] <Chris_Britton> I don't want a new application to install I want my network-manager back the way it was
[08:29] <Chris_Britton> with the option for "wired interface"
[08:29] <Neo2> hi, I have  a question about VNC
[08:29] <Chris_Britton> is there some way to restart it ?
[08:29] <rww> pogztimz: how do you want them to connect? ssh? samba? VNC?
[08:29] <Neo2> I using TightVNC login to Ubuntu( my home ), but I don't allow it (I am in office)
[08:29] <filleokus> Neo2: shoot
[08:29] <abchirk> Chris_Britton sure, close the app and relaunch it
[08:30] <scientus> any way to use iptables to map upper ports like 40001-51024 to 1-1024?
[08:30] <Neo2> how to allow vnclient by CLI( command line)
[08:30] <HeLLRaZoR> !xandr
[08:30] <Chris_Britton> oh wow abchirk, I certainly never thought of that!
[08:30] <BruteSource> Ubuntu is the worst thing that has ever happened to linux, bringing all these ignorant windows users over, we had a good thing.  Just wanted to say you have ruined linux. Enjoy banning me, I am sure it will make you feel powerful.
[08:30] <rww> !xrandr | HeLLRaZoR
[08:30] <noob-dau> i need a messenger like pidgin. but i want to do webcam sessions
[08:30] <noob-dau> suggestions?
[08:30] <abchirk> noob-dau kopete. :)
[08:30] <Chris_Britton> abchirk, think all this time that I've been using ubuntu for 3 years, I never once thought I could just restart an application !
[08:30] <noob-dau> thxx
[08:31] <Chris_Britton> I love these "general answers"
[08:31] <_kinch> when I execute a shell script  , I got an error in gvim said: "WARNING: terminal is not fully functional", how can I fix it?
[08:31] <Chris_Britton> it's like asking me where I live and I reply by saying "earth"
[08:31] <Flannel> Chris_Britton: Please drop the sarcasm
[08:31] <pogztimz> Chris_Britton: how can i help bro?
[08:33] <pogztimz> anyone pls tell me how to connect clients to a server?
[08:33] <BruteSource> Ubuntu is the worst thing that has ever happened to linux, bringing all these ignorant windows users over, we had a good thing.  Just wanted to say you have ruined linux. Enjoy banning me, I am sure it will make you feel powerful.
[08:33] <loafers> Hi, could someone please help me?
[08:33] <abchirk> pogztimz to which server? file server?
[08:33] <HeLLRaZoR> BruteSource, silence fool
[08:33] <GibbaTheHutt> BruteSource, zzzzzz
[08:34] <abchirk> loafers just ask your question
[08:34]  * Learner101 waits
[08:34] <loafers> Well, i'm following a guide on pendrivelinux.com to set up ubuntu on my external hDD
[08:34] <HeLLRaZoR> anyone knows anything about Dual Monitor settings
[08:34] <loafers> and it says to format my hdd to FAT32, but IIRC
[08:35] <loafers> my hdd is 100 Gigabytes and it has to be NTFS
[08:35] <loafers> will it still work?
[08:36] <lakitu3> if my partitions aren't showing up in fdisk, are they gone?
[08:36] <lakitu3> i believe i had a virus
[08:36] <lakitu3> (in win)
[08:36] <pogztimz> abchirk.. i was able to setup ubuntu server by following htese guide. http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts
[08:36] <HeLLRaZoR> Dual Screen help needed
[08:37] <pogztimz> and then i installed ebox platform from this guide.. http://www.howtoforge.com/running-a-file-and-print-server-with-ebox-on-ubuntu8.04-server-p2
[08:37] <kirima> Guys could anyone help me with a GRUB error 21?
[08:37] <kirima> i installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a 640Gb external hard drive.
[08:37] <kirima> The installation went fine, but when i booted up the system without a Live CD i get GRUB stage 1.5 error 21.
[08:37] <kirima> I've booted up from a Windows XP SP2 disk and enterd the command line and tried the commands "fixboot", "fixmbr" and "fdisk /mbr".
[08:37] <kirima> Those commands didn't fix the GRUB problem and the "fdisk" command doesen't exist according to the command line.
[08:37] <FloodBot2> kirima: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <kirima> I can't boot in XP nor Linux, i dont get a chance to choose system.
[08:37] <rww> loafers: I might be wrong on this, but I believe the maximum filesystem size of FAT32 is several terabytes
[08:37] <pogztimz> now what i want to ask is how do i configure my clients to connect to it
[08:38] <HeLLRaZoR> basicly I want to setup my dual screen but not as a spanned screen, I would prefer to have linux operate the 2 screens individually and not 2 screen as one big screen.
[08:38] <loafers> ok thanks rww i'll try it out
[08:38] <rww> loafers: according to Wikipedia, "Windows 2000 and Windows XP can read and write to FAT32 file systems of any size, but the format program included in Windows 2000 and higher can only create FAT32 file systems of 32 GB or less. This limitation is by design and according to Microsoft was imposed because many tasks on a very large FAT32 file system become slow and inefficient.[14][18] This limitation can be bypassed by using third-party formatting utilities or by u
[08:38] <netol> Can anyone help me please? I have an Ubuntu server with gnome installed (ubuntu-desktop) but I don't want X to start automatically
[08:38] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, what video card ?
[08:38] <redi01> hello
[08:38] <redi01> guys
[08:38] <redi01> resi is back
[08:38] <HeLLRaZoR> Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTX
[08:38] <redi01> redi
[08:38] <FloodBot2> redi01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:38] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, have you tried running nvidia-settings ?
[08:38] <pogztimz> abchirk.. i was mainly talking to a file server
[08:39] <ushimitsudoki> HeLLRaZoR: you can easily do that with nvidia settings and setting each screen as a seperate X session
[08:39] <pogztimz> abchirk: about**
[08:39] <redi01> how many days i will be banned
[08:39] <scientus_> any way to use iptables to map upper ports like 40001-51024 to 1-1024?
[08:39] <redi01> ?
[08:39] <ushimitsudoki> HeLLRaZoR: you will not be able to drag windows between monitors
[08:39] <abchirk> pogztimz but for a file server you do not need an apache or ftp? :) I would use samba as fileserver
[08:39] <loafers> ok thanks rww
[08:39] <TANATHOS> abchirk: samba if you are on the same network with the server
[08:40] <redi01> A channel has bannned me and i cannot enter after 3 days what's happening
[08:40] <abchirk> TANATHOS I thought he is?
[08:40] <redi01> #gentoo
[08:40] <pogztimz> abchirk: yes of course.. but i will need those later on.. for now i just want my clients to connect to the file and printer server
[08:40] <lakitu3> what does sda1p1 mean?
[08:40] <HeLLRaZoR> i have dual screens setup as we speak, but its discusting when i try to watch a movie it actually expands the window throughout both screens, making a huge demarkation in the middle of the video, because of the 2screen separation
[08:40] <Tyrath> what was that latest thunderbird update? I mean thunderbird isn't installed...
[08:40] <rww> redi01: #gentoo isn't our responsibility. You'll have to talk to someone affiliated with that channel =/
[08:40] <lakitu3> in context of fdisk
[08:41] <ushimitsudoki> HeLLRaZoR: some WM can help with that. compiz can set up viewports that will stop that for example
[08:41] <redi01> i don't mean it about gentoo rww
[08:41] <ushimitsudoki> HeLLRaZoR: also, for games and other full screen apps, you may need to set up some metamodes
[08:41] <pogztimz> abchirk: u there?
[08:41] <rww> redi01: sorry, i assumed you meant you were banned from #gentoo. Which channel was it?
[08:41] <HeLLRaZoR> ok can someone guide me or refer me to some guides?
[08:42] <abchirk> yes, but no idea. :(
[08:42] <kirima> Guys could anyone help me with a GRUB error 21? I installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a 640Gb external hard drive. The installation went fine, but when i booted up the system without a Live CD i get GRUB stage 1.5 error 21. I've booted up from a Windows XP SP2 disk and enterd the command line and tried the commands "fixboot", "fixmbr" and "fdisk /mbr". Those commands didn't fix the GRUB problem and the "fdisk" command doesen't exist
[08:42] <pogztimz> abchirk : kk
[08:42] <redi01> i mean it about suse and mandriva
[08:42] <abchirk> As pritnserver I use cups in my local network, not more. :)
[08:42] <etrask> Does anyone have any ideas how o get the shortcut butons on my laptop working? The volume up/down/mute buttons, specifically. They don't do anything right now in Xubuntu 8.04.1
[08:42] <loafers> Hi, I'm new to IRC and i'm using xchat, is there a way to remove the annoying sound when you hit backspace in the chat box?  In addition how does everyone display the (name): ?  Do you guys use a hotkey, or do you manually type it?
[08:42] <rww> !keys | etrask
[08:42] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, have you set it in config as a separate x-server ?
[08:42] <floyd> okay what do i use to download torrents with ubuntu
[08:42] <floyd> i cant find anything
[08:42] <ziroday> loafers: you type the first few lettters and then press <tab>
[08:42] <rww> !torrent | floyd
[08:42] <HeLLRaZoR> hmm no I dont think so,
[08:43] <redi01> how many days is the most that they can bann me
[08:43] <floyd> thanks
[08:43] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, try that
[08:43] <ushimitsudoki> GibbaTheHutt: he shouldn't set up seperate x-servers because that is overreacting to his "screen-spanning" problem. that is my opinion
[08:43] <loafers> ziroday, Thanks.
[08:43] <pogztimz> abchirk: i need the files and printers to be centralized.. i also need the clients to authenticate with the server
[08:43] <ziroday> redi01: you need to ask those channels operators
[08:43] <GibbaTheHutt> ushimitsudoki, in an ideal world I agree :)
[08:43] <rww> redi01: unless you're banned from an ubuntu channel, we can't help you. The maximum length for channel bans is, well, infinite.
[08:43] <abchirk> loafers under Settings -> Preferences -> Sound
[08:43] <redi01> oh really?
[08:43] <GibbaTheHutt> however there are some advantages too
[08:43] <ziroday> loafers: for more xchat specific stuff ask in #xchat
[08:43] <Ububegin> hi.. i have set up a jboss server... Whenever, I type http://localhost .. I want it to get automatically directed to http://localhost/ProjA ... How can I achieve this.. Any ideas
[08:43] <redi01> which are the operators?
[08:44] <abchirk> pogztimz I am sure that cups supports authentication. :)
[08:44] <HeLLRaZoR> GibbaTheHutt, I just want to extend my desktop to a different resolutionned screen i have 2 screen 1x22" 1680x1050, and 1x17 1280x1024 and currently the desktop is shared on both screen, i would just like to have the second screen as an extension to my desktop and not an actual part of the monitor.
[08:44] <ziroday> redi01: you need to ask on those channels
[08:44] <ushimitsudoki> GibbaTheHutt: true (I have 3 monitors on 2 cards). I think HeLLRaZoR should better identify his issues and needs maybe?
[08:44] <loafers> ziroday, ok thanks.  when i press TAB it attaches a comma, how did you get yours to attach a colon?
[08:44] <abchirk> redi01 /msg Chanserv access #gentoo list
[08:44] <redi01> but i cannot enter
[08:44] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, sorry I thought you didn't want that
[08:45] <HeLLRaZoR> yes sorry if i didnt explain myself properly.
[08:45] <pogztimz> abchirk: k. enough of printers. ty btw.. how about user accounts. yes.. how do i create them..?
[08:45] <ziroday> loafers: you can change that in Settings > Preferences > Input Box. For xchat questions ask in #xchat
[08:45] <etrask> Thanks rww
[08:45] <ziroday> redi01: ask on #freenode
[08:45] <loafers> ziroday, Ok thanks
[08:45] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, can you explain the last bit a little different, think I'm misunderstanding
[08:46] <abchirk> I do not use user authentication for 2 pcs in my lan pogztimz maybe you'll find something on the cups documentation. :)
[08:46] <HeLLRaZoR> but I do it in Vista, so i know its possible, I want my Gnome menus to stay on the main screen, and not expand on the other screen and when ill maximize a window I want it to stay on whatever screen its currently on, and not try to expand to both screens.
[08:46] <GibbaTheHutt> HeLLRaZoR, yep thats how I have mine atm
[08:46] <ziroday> Ububegin: you need to edit the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default. You may have better luck asking in #ubuntu-server
[08:46] <HeLLRaZoR> When you click Maximize your application will fill both screens, for some applications this is ok for others it's annoying
[08:47] <HeLLRaZoR> so i prefer not to have it filling both screen
[08:47] <GibbaTheHutt> so menu over on left larger screen, 2nd screen I set as right hand side to it and run other apps, maximised they take whichever they started in
[08:47] <HeLLRaZoR> so if someone can show me how to do this
[08:47] <pogztimz> abchirk: k
[08:47] <HeLLRaZoR> i would appreciate otherwise i'll keep scavenging the internet for some info
[08:47] <ziroday> HeLLRaZoR: you need to run two seperate screens, not have them joined together
[08:48] <pogztimz> how do create user accounts that will authenticate with ubuntu server that i have just installed?
[08:48] <ziroday> pogztimz: can you explain more, what do you mean by authenticate
[08:48] <HeLLRaZoR> ziroday, how do I do this
[08:49] <ziroday> HeLLRaZoR: I only know how do it with a nvidia graphics cards sorry, what card do you have?
[08:49] <TANATHOS> pogztimz: ? what are you trying to ask about , adding users was something that you were asked at the installation process
[08:49] <HeLLRaZoR> ive went to hell and back with this issue this is basicly my last resort before re-installing ubuntu
[08:49] <HeLLRaZoR> I have a NVIDIA G8
[08:49] <ziroday> HeLLRaZoR: have you used the nvidia-settings program?
[08:49] <HeLLRaZoR> no should I?
[08:50] <ziroday> HeLLRaZoR: its the easiest way to configure multiple monitors, you can install it with sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:50] <HeLLRaZoR> im installing it now
[08:50] <dr_willis> Its installable/optional
[08:50] <ushimitsudoki> ziroday: HeLLRaZoR: this is not true. nvidia binary drivers have TwinView and can report appropriately faked Xinerama info that most window managers can respect and maximize only on the current monitor. Compiz respects this as does fvwm in my experience
[08:50] <ziroday> ushimitsudoki: yes put gnome-panel will still span across two screens, no??
 i recently installed ubuntu server. i followed this guide. http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu8.04-lts and then installed ebo platform based again from this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/running-a-file-and-print-server-with-ebox-on-ubuntu8.04-server-p2.
[08:50] <chovy> how do i enable colors in bash?
[08:50] <dr_willis> I use nvidia + twinview all the time.. I have noticed after using nvidia-settings to set up the 2 monitors.. one MUST restart the X server. for the apps to fullscreen to just the single monitors correctly
[08:51] <ziroday> pogztimz: okay, and what do you want to authenticate against?
[08:51] <ushimitsudoki> ziroday: hmmm i don't recall (not on gnome anymore). that might be a point there
[08:51] <dr_willis> chovy,  you enale the colors option in the program youa re running in bash.
[08:51] <HeLLRaZoR> its installed.
[08:51] <dr_willis> chovy,  such as with an ls alias --->  alias ls='ls -hF --color'
[08:51] <ziroday> ushimitsudoki: anyway I am not very familiar with the procedure, if you and dr_willis want to guide HeLLRaZoR through the procedure be my guest
[08:52] <dr_willis> HeLLRaZoR,  basics.. Install nvidia driver get it going.. install nvidia-settings, run 'sudo nvidia-settings' configure monitors.. exit.. restart X server.. see if it works right.
[08:52] <forstrongest> 各位好呀,这是我第一次用xchat!
 i want to create user accounts for each student. there are 20 computers in our comp lab all running edubuntu 8.04. i want those clients and account to be able to authenticate before they can use the computers
[08:52] <ziroday> !cn | forstrongest
[08:53] <HeLLRaZoR> let me try this..
[08:53] <forstrongest> hello every one, this is my first time to use xchat
[08:53] <HeLLRaZoR> ill be back
[08:53] <ushimitsudoki> ziroday: no no not meaning to step on any toes, just trying to put out info as i am running around the room. there's not much to it on two monitors using nvidia proprietary drivers
[08:53] <ziroday> pogztimz: okay and authenticate against what....just create users for all of them?
 i installed ebox platform for file and printer servers and also for remote administration.
[08:54] <ziroday> pogztimz: and you want to create ebox users for all of them?
[08:54] <hellrazor> Ok im back.
[08:55] <hellrazor> and im getting some kind of error running nvidia-settings
[08:55] <ziroday> hellrazor: can you pastebin/tell us the error?
[08:55] <Learner101> Last chance....can anyone explain to me why 8.04LTS stops working??
[08:55] <hellrazor> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[08:55] <ziroday> hellrazor: you are sure you have a nvidia card?
[08:55] <hellrazor> and i ran nvidia-xconfig as root
[08:55] <hellrazor> lol
[08:55] <hellrazor> yes im sure.
[08:56] <ziroday> Learner101: we will need more information, like where it stops working and error messages
[08:56] <ziroday> hellrazor: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[08:56] <ZeekDaGeek> How can I uninstall GRUB without my Windows CD. I'm running in Windows right now.
[08:56] <hellrazor> yes the proprietary drivers
[08:56] <Learner101> I don't get error messages the GUI, it loads and everything and then just stops!!
[08:56] <hellrazor> i think i should reinstall Ubuntu
[08:56] <xiaopi> is there a command to make ubuntu rebuild /etc/network/interface like it does automaticaly during install ?
 no.. i want to create user accounts so that their documents would be only accessible for them
[08:57] <ziroday> hellrazor: hmm you shouldn't need to, I am just trying to remember how to verify you are using the nvidia drivers
[08:57] <ziroday> pogztimz: okay and you are using samba?
[08:57] <xiaopi> get to switch often when i use pppoeconf or for some wlan configs
[08:57] <Ububegin> ziroday : thanks for replying.. but I am using Jboss. and thus have apache2 directory to speak of.. will ask #ubuntu-server channel
[08:58] <redi> is ubuntu 8.10 going to rock again?r
 yes i am using samba?
[08:58] <ziroday> pogztimz: well did you install samba? How are you sharing the files?
 yes i am using samba.
[08:59] <ziroday> !samba | pogztimz read these links
[08:59] <ziroday> pogztimz: if you want a web interface like ebox you may want to use SWAT
 ok lmme check this out.. brb
[08:59] <Learner101> Okay I guess this computer goes in the bin then because I can't get anything else to run on it as it was manufactured around 2000...Thanks for your help and I will be buying/building new and with luck I won't need ubuntu...Thanks again
[09:00] <hellrazor> damn.
i already installed ebox..
[09:00] <redi> is ubuntu 8.10 gona rock again?
[09:00] <redi> or is just a service pack
[09:00] <redi> lol
[09:01] <feng14> is there anyone using kiba-dock?it doesn't work on my ubuntu 8.04
[09:01] <ziroday> redi: its a new release
[09:01] <Flannel> redi: try #ubuntu-release-party
[09:01] <hellrazor> gonna restart X again
[09:01] <ziroday> pogztimz: one sec
[09:01] <rww> redi: discussion of intrepid goes in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-party. Personally, I love it; it fixed a tonne of bugs with my hardware :D
[09:01] <redi> do you mean it's good enough to try?
[09:03] <ziroday`> pogztimz: did you see this link https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html, or did you want to configure it through ebox?
 one sec. brb
[09:04] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "For ALSA to work on a system with a given sound card, there must be an ALSA driver for that card in the kernel." "~$ lspci; 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)" Is snd_intel8x0 this ALSA driver? modinfo snd_intel8x0 does not answer this question.
[09:05] <ziroday`> pogztimz: if you want to configure it through ebox see http://ebox-platform.com/usersguide/en/html/ebox-userguide-book.html#sect-users-users
[09:05] <lakitu3> is force mounting a bad idea?
[09:06] <bullgard4> lakitu3: man mount
[09:06] <ziroday`> pogztimz: or you can ask for more ebox specific help on #ebox
[09:06] <ziroday`> lakitu3: they do give you a warning for a reason :)
[09:08] <mordof> k so i've got my web server all set up. using /www as the main folder.  only problem is when i upload new files that i've just created with WinSCP if sets the group permissions wrong, and apache can't see them. i've been putting them as server:www-data  (yes, i have a lack of imagination when it comes to usernames)
[09:08] <mordof> i was wondering if anyone could help me get the permissions set up right for this so i don't have to update it every time i make a new file
[09:09] <floyd> torrent flux keeps promting me to install when i do it wants me to put a password in so i do..... ounce this happens it tells me that i needed to create a database whatever that means and will not allow me to continue with the installatoin its driving me crazy because every 5 minutes it keeps popping up asking me to do this over and over
[09:09] <floyd> any ideas
[09:10] <ziroday> floyd: did you install torrentflux?
[09:10] <floyd> yeah
[09:10] <floyd> i mean i think i did
[09:10] <ziroday> floyd: do you want to remove torrentflux?
[09:10] <floyd> sure
[09:10] <floyd> its driving me nuts
[09:11] <ziroday> floyd: sudo apt-get remove --purge torrentflux
[09:11] <floyd> thanks
[09:11] <floyd> do u use it ziroday?
[09:11] <ziroday> floyd: have before yes
[09:11] <rww> What's the preferred install/uninstall method for ubuntu, apt-get or aptitude?
[09:12] <ziroday> rww: whatever you prefer
[09:12] <floyd> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:12] <floyd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:12] <floyd> when i typed the command u told me
[09:12] <extor> Is there anything great about 8.10 compared to the prior versions? What stands out the most in terms of eye candy and other goodies?
[09:12] <rww> floyd: you have another package manager open somewhere. close synaptic/apt-get/whatever
[09:12] <floyd> oh its because i tryed to unstill it in synaptic
[09:12] <rww> !intrepid | extor
[09:12] <floyd> okay thanks
[09:13] <rww> extor: so ask in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-release-party :)
[09:13] <extor> I was not seeking support, just an opinion!
[09:13] <floyd> hmmmmmm i cant find it
[09:14] <Flannel> extor: try #ubuntu-release-party
[09:15] <loafers> I've been having trouble getting several computers to boot to Ubuntu 8.10 on my HDD via USB cable.  I set the boot sequence to USB always so I am confused why it works for actual USB flash drives and not for HDD connected through a USB cord.
[09:15] <dr_willis> 'eye candy causes ocular cavaties, be sure to brush and floss btween those eyebrows'
[09:15] <hellrazor> ok NVIDIA-settings just wont work properly keep on getting that error even though the drivers are installed.
[09:15] <ziroday> loafers: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <loafers> ok
[09:16] <floyd> would someone please give me the command to remove torrentflux again i just restarted my computer
[09:17] <floyd> or i restarted ubuntu but whatever
[09:17] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME
[09:17] <floyd> thanks
[09:17] <ziroday> dr_willis: I was going to through a --purge in there as well :)